[12:15] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: you could try running amarokcollectionscanner /pathto/mp3/  from console ... otherwise may ask in #amarok
[12:15] <esaym> whats a good back up program that works over ssh?
[12:16] <bronze> esaym: rsync
[12:16] <KALDOKONPELOTAS> Hi
[12:17] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: tried there already nobody could help me
[12:17] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: did you run the collection scanner from console?
[12:17] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: and I don't have any application called amarokcollectionscanner
[12:17] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: maybe its in /usr/lib/amarok/
[12:18] <xenol> how can i enable writing to my linux disk from live cd plz? it is mounted but doesnt have privileges to write there ;S
[12:19] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: which version do you use?
[12:19] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: it reports a couple of songs, but doesn't seem to add them to the database
[12:19] <dwidmann> back
[12:19] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: 1.4.5
[12:19] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: and sqlite or mysql as db?
[12:19] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: tried both but mysql now
[12:19] <dwidmann> seems to work best with sqlite in my experience
[12:20] <xenol> plz someone
[12:20] <xenol> how can i mount disk with having privileges of writing on it?
[12:21] <Brian_> get privilege to write on it?
[12:21] <esaym> bronze is there a  gui for rsync?
[12:21] <esaym> what is the command for ssh on port 222?
[12:21] <xenol> Brian_:  well want to make pic from livecd so i can store it in my home
[12:21] <xenol> i have disk mounted but cant write on it
[12:21] <caseyomah> !feisty
[12:21] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:22] <Brian_> xenol: I don't understand what your problem is
[12:23] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: hmm really strange... and you deleted both the ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc ?
[12:23] <xenol> Brian_:  i am on livecd and i want to make snapshot and want to store it in my home on disk
[12:23] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: yup and even re-installed the application
[12:23] <xenol> i mouted home but can copy snahsopt there
[12:23] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: the kubuntu.org package?
[12:23] <Brian_> can you write it to somewhere else?
[12:23] <Captain_Redbeard> yea from the repos
[12:23] <DaSkreech> xenol: sudo chown -R ubuntu <mountpoint>
[12:23] <DaSkreech> xenol: I can't stay
[12:24] <DaSkreech>  xenol: what kind of network do you have?
[12:24] <rEvolution27> anyone here use istanbul?
[12:24] <xenol> LAN i will copy my settings from livecd
[12:24] <xenol> and will set it
[12:24] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: i've tried everything but without luck :p
[12:24] <dwidmann> Captain_Redbeard: if reinstalling didn't work, perhaps dpkg --purge to remove instead of apt-get remove would be a better option
[12:24] <DaSkreech> xenol: Ok
[12:24] <caseyomah> Is there a way to map Meta (by itself) to K Menu?
[12:24] <dwidmann> also try updating to amarok 1.4.5, for which packages were released today
[12:24] <Captain_Redbeard> dwidmann: that's what I did :)
[12:24] <DaSkreech> xenol: I have a betetr idea
[12:24] <Captain_Redbeard> dwidmann: I'm using 1.4.5 :D
[12:25] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: haven't tried it yet.. as i use some custom svn build that i made a couple of days before release.. let me see what happens with the official package ;)
[12:25] <DaSkreech> xenol: How are you accessing the mount point?
[12:25] <DaSkreech> xenol: GUI or CLI?
[12:25] <xenol> gui
[12:25] <DaSkreech> xenol: close the window if you are not using it
[12:25] <xenol> well i still can use USB stick :D
[12:25] <Captain_Redbeard> jott :))
[12:25] <xenol> i will use it
[12:25] <DaSkreech> xenol: alt+F2 -> kdesu konqueror
[12:26] <xenol> k i follow u
[12:26] <DaSkreech> You shoudl be able to copy whatever you want whereever you want
[12:26] <dwidmann> Something funny happened to me yesterday, I downloaded the 1.4.5 tarball and yet, it seemed it was actually the 1.4.4 source :s
[12:26] <Tm_T> dwidmann: ?
[12:26] <DaSkreech> xenol: Let me know if you can't copy to your hard drive
[12:27] <DaSkreech> xenol: Opened?
[12:27] <Captain_Redbeard> I'm fresh out of ideas now :( I've tried everything it seems :'(
[12:27] <xenol> ye
[12:27] <xenol> thx going to edgy now
[12:27] <DaSkreech> xenol: You can copy?
[12:28] <jott> Captain_Redbeard: are the files local or on smb/nfs shares?
[12:28] <xenol> yup
[12:28] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: local
[12:28] <DaSkreech> ok back up your old files on teh hard drive
[12:28] <DaSkreech>  In case BadThings(R) happen
[12:28] <Tm_T> dwidmann: Sounds funny, but possible that it's 1.4.5 with 1.4.4 versioning.
[12:28] <Captain_Redbeard> jott: on a vfat partition, but I tried moving some over to my home folder and it was still the same thing
[12:28] <jott> yep.. just to make sure its not about dynamic collection stuff ;)..
[12:29] <Captain_Redbeard> :)
[12:29] <jott> hmm it's still scanning here ;)...
[12:29] <dwidmann> TM_T no, it wasn't
[12:30] <dwidmann> I didn't worry about it much though since packages are available as of today
[12:31] <Tm_T> dwidmann: Ok, funny though, where did you grab the sources?
[12:31] <bobleny> is yuriy still on?
[12:31] <bobleny> Well, I guess it doesn't matter
[12:32] <bobleny> Anyone in here installed truecrypt?
[12:34] <dwidmann> amarok.kde.org?
[12:34] <rEvolution27> anyone know where istanbul saves it's video files?
[12:34] <Brian_> I need help with grub 1.5 if anybody knows about it
[12:34] <bobleny> dwidmann, what kind of question is that?
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Brian_: what is the problem
[12:34] <yuriy> bobleny: ?
[12:35] <niels_> Has anybody tried feisty herd? Is it usable yet?
[12:35] <Brian_> Admiral_Chicago: when I let my computer boot normally and grub takes over it says "error 22" and fails to do anything from there
[12:35] <bobleny> yuriy, I followed that guide you gave me and it seems to have worked, but I have no idea how to run the program. It isnt in any of the menus...
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> niels_: on it now. #ubuntu+1 is a good start
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Brian_: hmm, never heard of the bug
[12:35] <Brian_> I have set up my computer to triple-boot from the first disk; Win XP, Win Vista, Kubuntu
[12:35] <niels_> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Brian_: have you looked up the forums?
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Brian_: i bet it's Vista breaking it...
[12:36] <Brian_> no
[12:36] <Brian_> vista is fine
[12:36] <Brian_> I've done several other configurations with it and it worked before
[12:36] <Brian_> but on my reinstall of kubuntu it no longer works
[12:37] <Admiral_Chicago> i see, check ubuntuforums.com, they have a lot of good information
[12:37] <Brian_> I CAN still access both windows OSs if I boot the live CD and tell it to boot from the first disk (at which time it loads grub 1.5)
[12:37] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i've dose that befor
[12:37] <Brian_> but when I do that grub refuses to aknowledge kubuntu
[12:38] <bobleny> Oh, I see, it is command line app....
[12:38] <bobleny> Guh..
[12:38] <bobleny> Thanks!
[12:38] <Brian_> (says there is an ubuntu installation, but fails to load)
[12:38] <dwidmann> bobleny: the best kind
[12:39] <bobleny> No, not the best kind!
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> yea probably wrote the config file imporperly or something
[12:39] <bobleny> I hate all this sudo crap
[12:39] <dwidmann> bobleny: do you prefer su crap?
[12:40] <bobleny> lol, nope
[12:40] <Brian_> Admiral_Chicago: do you know of a fix?
[12:40] <dwidmann> do you prefer insecure vulnerable systems crap?
[12:40] <Admiral_Chicago>  no
[12:41] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe reinstall grub
[12:41] <julio_> hello
[12:41] <bobleny> No, I don't like windows
[12:41] <soulrider> good
[12:41] <soulrider> windows sucks
[12:41] <soulrider> !windows
[12:41] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:41] <bobleny> lol
[12:42] <xenol> !resolution
[12:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:42] <xenol> will autodetection script for dapper work on edgy?
[12:43] <dwidmann> autodetection of what?
[12:46] <Admiral_Chicago> xenol: yes
[12:48] <bobleny> Do you think there is a a GUI for truecrypt?
[12:49] <elyon225> hmm... I'm trying to repartition my drives to install another Linux distro.  Problem is, when I run GParted (either from Kubuntu or the GParted LiveCD), it only displays one disk drive with NO partitions.
[12:49] <elyon225> I'm still able to boot into Kubuntu and Windows, however.
[12:56] <j__> elyon225: do you have multiple hard drives?
[12:56] <elyon225> j__: No... just one.
[12:56] <elyon225> But it has 4 partitions on it (Windows, /, /swap, /home)
[12:56] <elyon225> This started when I used the PCLinuxOS partition manager to resize the Windows partition.
[12:57] <j__> I missed the change hard drive button at first when using GParted and couldn't figure out why the partitions were all wrong
[01:00] <elyon225> hmm... I'm trying to repartition my drives to install another Linux distro.  Problem is, when I run GParted (either from Kubuntu or the GParted LiveCD), it only displays one disk drive with NO partitions.
[01:00] <elyon225> I'm still able to boot into Kubuntu and Windows, however.
[01:05] <harveyd> trying to compile a program, and getting an compiler cannot create executables (during configure), gcc is present
[01:05] <harveyd> anyone know what would be wrong?
[01:07] <nagyv> harveyd: do you have write permissions for the directory?
[01:07] <nagyv> try it with sudo
[01:09] <harveyd> i do have write permissions, its within my home folder
[01:09] <harveyd> and I attempted with sudo
[01:10] <harveyd> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=28795
[01:13] <esaym> to use rsync through ssh does it have to be installed on both systems?
[01:17] <Solidad> Hello, how to setup proxy in order to hide my real ip in public?
[01:21] <lysdexia> Hi folks. I'm having a bit of difficulty with Adept. The package I'm installing has a curses-based confirmation screen that has frozen the install process. (installation of mysql4 server - the freezing package is postfix if it matters). Is there a graceful way to stop the install without confusing Adept?
[01:23] <lysdexia> Just to clarify: the curses-based screen is asking for input, the installation of the package itself is not the problem. Adept cannot pass an event to it, thus causing a hang.
[01:24] <dwidmann> lysdexia: I think I've got a solution
[01:25] <lysdexia> Hi folks. I'm having a bit of difficulty with Adept. The package I'm installing has a curses-based confirmation screen that has frozen the install process since Adept cannot pass anything to the event. (installation of mysql4 server - the freezing package is postfix if it matters). Is there a graceful way to stop the install without confusing Adept?
[01:25] <dwidmann> install the libqt-perl package, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf and select kde
[01:26] <dwidmann> that way you won't get an ncurses dialog ... you'll instead get a qt popup :)
[01:26] <fuk> lysdexia: why not command line apt-get?
[01:27] <lysdexia> fuk: I know, I know ... I was having fun with the pretty pictures.
[01:27] <GalaZ> how can i shutdown my pc with konsole?
[01:27] <dwidmann> "type shutdown"
[01:27] <fuk> lysdexia: you can try synaptic also
[01:27] <lysdexia> dwidmann: that is good advice, but how to I kill Adept without leaving a host of lock files and the like that I'll have to clean up later? I have had trouble with this on an earlier install and it's pretty frustrating.
[01:28] <dwidmann> !adeptfix
[01:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:29] <lysdexia> Yeah, I found that advice googling around when I had previously installed edgy on another machine. Adept has not yet crashed, it's just wating for input.
[01:29] <nagyv> lysdexia: then try to give it, show details, and click arond, move the cursor, click enters
[01:30] <dwidmann> Well, I don't know of any way of getting it so you can give it that input, so kill, then fix, then install libqt-perl and dpkg-reconfigure debconf and select kde, then do it again and it should work :)
[01:31] <lysdexia> The last time I killed Adept in the middle of an install, X flaked out, I lost sound and network and I just gave up and re-installed since I was in a hurry. :-)
[01:31] <lysdexia> This should be fun!
[01:32] <dwidmann> ouch
[01:32] <lysdexia> 'twas teh suck.
[01:32] <dwidmann> Yeah, you really got burnt
[01:33] <lysdexia> Ah crud. What is whiptail?
[01:34] <lysdexia> Now it's all running in the background! /rimshot
[01:34] <lysdexia> Hijinx ensue! :-)
[01:34] <dwidmann> hahaha
[01:34] <dwidmann> I don't know what whiptail is
[01:34] <dwidmann> !info whiptail
[01:34] <ubotu> whiptail: Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is important. Version 0.52.2-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 92 kB
[01:34] <lysdexia> Okay, so I'm going to kill all the processes connected to dpkg now as well.
[01:35] <lysdexia> It won't die! :-) [dpkg-preconfigu]  <defunct>
[01:36] <lysdexia> Okay -9 got it all.
[01:36] <dwidmann> Yup
[01:41] <lysdexia> dwidman: I've never fiddled with dpkg-reconfigure. Shall I choose Dialog or Readline?
[01:41] <dwidmann> kde
[01:42] <dwidmann> should be an option
[01:42] <dwidmann> after installing libqt-perl anyhow
[01:42] <lysdexia> Ah. I see. One has to scroll. I feel like I'm using slackware ci 1999 :-)
[01:43] <lysdexia> Allright. Let's see how this turns out!
[01:44] <lysdexia> Not so good.
[01:44] <lysdexia> Adept does n't start. No dpkg running.
[01:45] <lysdexia> I think I'm going to rekindle a love for apt-get. This is ugly.
[01:45] <lysdexia> I fear my next reboot.
[01:46] <lysdexia> aw hell.
[01:50] <^Aftermath^> will the installer delete the data on the disk by default?
[01:53] <dwidmann> back
[01:53] <dwidmann> Hmm
[01:53] <dwidmann> Not good you say?
[01:53] <dwidmann> Hmm, sudo killall adept
[01:54] <dwidmann> might have an effect
[01:54] <dwidmann> else truy repeatedly, lysdexia
[01:54] <dwidmann> **try
[01:55] <jibowen> why i can't save the close screen time
[01:56] <ifti> can anyone help me with katapult?
[01:57] <ifti> I can't get it to work
[01:58] <dwidmann> ifti: what about it isn't working, is it not coming up?
[01:58] <soulrider> ifti: maybe ask in #katapult ?
[01:58] <ifti> soulrider..thanks will do
[01:58] <ifti> yeah I can't get it to come up
[01:59] <soulrider> you using beryl ?
[01:59] <ifti> I know its running I can see it in ksysguard
[01:59] <ifti> I just purged and then reinsalled it
[01:59] <ifti> nope kde
[02:00] <ifti> it used to work fine
[02:00] <ifti> then I'm not sure what happened
[02:00] <esaym> anyone know if I have to start that rsync daemon to use rsync over ssh??
[02:01] <esaym> I am trying to copy some files through ssh using rsync and it is not working
[02:01] <Flying_Eagle> ifti, maybe theres a shortcut-setting in kdes controlcenter, which you have to set again
[02:03] <dwidmann> Humm, ifti, it might not be liking your shortcut .... else, well, see what alt+f2 followed by typing in katapult and hitting enter does
[02:03] <ifti> will try
[02:05] <lysdexia> dwidmann: Now adept is giving me the following: Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[02:05] <one> plz help i have a linux server and i want to delete all data remote with root access... so that is not reconstructalbe.. how do i do that ? ;-)
[02:05] <lysdexia> I think I'm going to stick with apt-get from now on.
[02:05] <dwidmann> lysdexia: ouch
[02:06] <dwidmann> I've never heard that on e
[02:06] <lysdexia> Bad words and dirty names.
[02:07] <dwidmann> lysdexia: I've got an idea
[02:07] <ifti> I can't seem to find a shortcut for catapult in kcontrol
[02:07] <lysdexia> Now the cursed dpkg lock crap again.
[02:07] <one> nobody could help me ? ;-(
[02:07] <dwidmann> lysdexia: apt-get -f install first
[02:07] <ifti> i ran it from thr command line and it bounced
[02:07] <ifti> but still nada
[02:07] <just-this-time> how do I install fonts in ubuntu ? http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/ this needed by googleearth
[02:07] <ifti> if I go to ksysguard and do kill katapult
[02:07] <ifti> then restart it form the command line
[02:08] <lysdexia> apt-get -f install <whatever package?>
[02:08] <one>  i have a linux server and i want to delete all data remote with root access... so that is not reconstructalbe.. how do i do that ? ;-)
[02:08] <ifti> i get a notification that says katapult is now running, press alt space to see it
[02:08] <ifti> or some such
[02:08] <dwidmann> if that fails lysdexia, try this command"dpkg --list | grep ii | cut -d ' ' -f 3 " copy and paste its' output to kate, select a line break, ctrl + c, ctr + r, replace the line breaks with spaces, now sudo apt-get --reinstall install <that big list>
[02:09] <one> what a support , awesome.. ;-(
[02:09] <dwidmann> one, what was your question ..... I don't feel like scrolling :D
[02:09] <one>  i have a linux server and i want to delete all data remote with root access... so that is not reconstructalbe.. how do i do that ? ;-)
[02:10] <dwidmann> all data, as in, everything on the drive?
[02:10] <one> yes but this drive im using with shell its a server
[02:11] <one> i coul only use it with shell not directly ;-(
[02:11] <one> so i cant boot from a cd or floppy or anything ;_(
[02:12] <dwidmann> Hmmm
[02:13] <dwidmann> if you can ssh in, or something similar, use something like the "shred" command, though, keep in mind that traces of it could still be there in the filesystem journal, assuming it's a journaling filesystem
[02:13] <one> i want to renistall a clean linux but the server is in a computre centre and i could reisntall it via  a serial console but i want to delete all first
[02:14] <ifti> does katapult have to run as root?
[02:14] <one> but could i use shred on the partition i am working with ?
[02:14] <dwidmann> I think shred targets individual files
[02:15] <one> also on hd on which is running linux and ssh ?
[02:16] <one> maybe he closed the ssh session an dont make shred 100% finished ?
[02:16] <dwidmann> eh?
[02:16] <esaym> anyone know what I am going wrong in rsync? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4666/
[02:17] <esaym> been messing with it for like 2 hours now
[02:19] <slyfox> What does Ctrl+Alt+F10 does I pressed it by accident and it turned off my screen and I could not turn it back on. I haad to hard restart.
[02:21] <ifti> do you think if I install Katapult from source I can get it to work>
[02:21] <lysdexia> dwidman: Not to be a whiner, but what risks am I running reinstalling all this stuff?
[02:21] <lysdexia> I've installed a crapload of packages.
[02:21] <dwidmann> ctrl + alt + f10 should take you to vt10, try hitting ctrl +alt + f7
[02:22] <BetaCookies> Does K3b or gnomebaker burn to DVD-Rs from an iso?
[02:22] <slyfox> dwidmann: what is vt1- ?
[02:22] <slyfox> dwidmann: what is vt10- ?
[02:22] <slyfox> dwidmann: I think I pressed it and all I got was a mouse cursor that is it and mp3 I was playing
[02:22] <slyfox>  But still it was only mouse cursor and a black screen
[02:22] <slyfox> I'll try it again if it wil lever happen
[02:23] <Jucato> slyfox: virtual terminal
[02:23] <dwidmann> view terminal 10, and if after pressing ctrl + alt + f7 you don't get your screen back, it's probably a flaw in the video driver you're using
[02:23] <Jucato> slyfox: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6 gives you tty1 to 6 (terminal)
[02:23] <slyfox> Jucato: how come it was just a black screen and I could not write any commands ?
[02:23] <dwidmann> ah yes, that was the word I was looking for, virtual, not view
[02:24] <dwidmann> and I believe 7-12 = x sessions
[02:24] <Jucato> slyfox: Ctrl+Alt+F7 to F12 gives you 6 terminals for X
[02:24] <Jucato> although F8 is reserved for USplash (bootsplash)
[02:24] <Jucato> slyfox: because F7-F12 are for X. F7 is the first (default) X session
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc this is different for different distrobutions Jucato
[02:25] <slyfox> Jucato: so F10 totally black screen was fine ?
[02:25] <Jucato> slyfox: yep
[02:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I know. other distros leave F8 alone
[02:26] <Jucato> other distros might only have 4 tty's
[02:26] <slyfox> Jucato: I think my terminal is brokern
[02:26] <Jucato> etc etc...
[02:26] <slyfox> Jucato: how can I check if my consoel is working ?
[02:26] <Jucato> slyfox: why?
[02:26] <Jucato> slyfox: which one? the one in Konsole (terminal emulator) or the tty's?
[02:26] <slyfox> not the Terminal, the one that I log in at
[02:26] <lysdexia> dwidman: I just blundered around and removed the lockfile - apt-get -f install mysql-server-4.1 seems to have worked. :-)
[02:26] <lysdexia> Thanks for your help.
[02:26] <slyfox> ttys
[02:26] <Jucato> slyfox: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:27] <slyfox> Jucato: and what shuld I see?
[02:27] <slyfox> and what should I do if it does not work ?
[02:27] <Jucato> slyfox: a login prompt. Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to X
[02:27] <Jucato> (the default X session)
[02:27] <slyfox> let me try now
[02:28] <slyfox> Jucato: Ctrl+Alt+F1 gives me black screen only
[02:28] <Jucato> slyfox: no text prompt to log in?
[02:29] <slyfox> Jucato: nope, just balck scree
[02:29] <slyfox> n
[02:29] <Jucato> slyfox: how about Ctrl+Alt+F2 to F6?
[02:29] <slyfox> I am Doomed
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> sounds like a borked KDM?
[02:30] <slyfox> I did update to KDE 3.5.6 and everything works
[02:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: KDM shouldn't be affecting the tty's...
[02:30] <makuseru> can someone tell me why i wouldnt be able to connect suing kfrb to a knoppix machine
[02:32] <slyfox> Jucato: thats it? My Kubuntu is Kaput ?
[02:33] <Jucato> slyfox: does rebooting fix this? no. you're kubuntu isn't kaput (yet). because it seems you can still run it
[02:34] <slyfox> Jucato: nope, evrything works and rebooting does not help
[02:37] <ifti> gah
[02:37] <ifti> i miss my katapult!
[02:39] <Caboos3> So who wants to answer a stupid easy question?
[02:39] <PeteKay> What is the version of Debian that is most compatible with Dapper? I want to use some Debian repos in my Dapper.
[02:39] <PeteKay> Caboos3: I want to answer
[02:39] <Dasnipa`> astronaut attacks person in baby diaper, will we make tasteless diaper jokes? depends.
[02:39] <Jucato> PeteKay: none. it's not good to mix repos
[02:39] <ifti> do you guys see a katapult applet by the clock
[02:39] <Caboos3> Pete: What's the best (or most user friendly) IRC client for Linux?
[02:40] <Caboos3> Ubuntu, that is
[02:40] <makuseru> can someone tell me why i wouldnt be able to connect suing kfrb to a knoppix machine
[02:40] <Jucato> Caboos3: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> nope, ifti
[02:40] <dwidmann> konversation works just fine
[02:40] <PeteKay> Jucato: Then how can I use gaim 2.0 *and many plugins* in Dapper? Do I have no option?
[02:40] <Caboos3> Jucato: Ubuntu
[02:40] <PeteKay> Caboos3: Kvirc
[02:40] <Jucato> Caboos3: most Ubuntu users use GAIM or XChat and they ask in #ubuntu :)
[02:40] <BluesKaj> konversation is great
[02:41] <Caboos3> Thanks for the heads up =)
[02:41] <Jucato> Caboos3: Ubuntu = GNOME, uses GTK/GNOME apps like GAIM/XChat. Kubuntu = KDE uses Qt/KDE apps like KVIRC and Konversation
[02:42] <Caboos3> Jucato: Thanks =D
[02:42] <PeteKay> Caboos3: Gaim is not specialized in IRC. Xchat is not for KDE.
[02:42] <Jucato> PeteKay: he said he's using Ubuntu anyway
[02:42] <PeteKay> Caboos3: Kvirc is the most beautiful. Xchat is the most popular (but it's not a KDE app)
[02:42] <PeteKay> Jucato: Oh, didn't notice that
[02:42] <Caboos3> Pete: Heh, yeah, I'm new
[02:43] <Jucato> PeteKay: <Caboos3> Jucato: Ubuntu
[02:43] <PeteKay> Caboos3: I tend to believe Kvirc is more noob friendly than Xchat
[02:43] <PeteKay> Jucato: I meant I hadn't noticed that in time
[02:43] <ifti> are there any other IM clients out there apart from GAIM and Kopete, I just can't get used to either interface
[02:44] <Caboos3> Thanks all
[02:44] <BluesKaj> amsn
[02:44] <Jucato> ifti: amsn and kmess for MSN.
[02:45] <ifti> they dont work with AIM or yahoo though, right?
[02:45] <PeteKay> Jucato: Actually I didn't know "Ubuntu" was an answer to your question "Ubuntu or Kubuntu?" so I assumed Caboos3 was using Kubuntu, since we're on #kubuntu right now
[02:45] <ifti> I'm looking for a trillian type client
[02:45] <ifti> clean simple
[02:45] <Jucato> PeteKay: that's why I asked for clarification :)
[02:45] <PeteKay> ifti: Gaim works with pretty much everything
[02:45] <PeteKay> Jucato: heh
[02:45] <BluesKaj> doesn't FF have a trillian plugin ?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> or is it mozilla?
[02:46] <PeteKay> Jucato: When I'm on #kubuntu I always assume people ask about #kubuntu anyway
[02:46] <PeteKay> Jucato: When I'm on #kubuntu I always assume people ask about Kubuntu anyway
[02:46] <Jucato> PeteKay: I've learned not to make that assumption months ago :)
[02:47] <Jucato> also I don't make the assumption anymore that everyone here is using Kubuntu or default Kubuntu or Kubuntu only :)
[02:47] <PeteKay> :)
[02:49] <EarthNStars> hi
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[02:50] <Jucato> can anyone confirm that there are two Go menus in Kontact when viewing Calendar/To Do/Journal?
[02:51] <dwidmann> one sec jucato
[02:51] <Jucato> thanks
[02:52] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: explain
[02:52] <dwidmann> I see only one
[02:52] <Jucato> ok thanks :)
[02:52] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: 2 Go menus in the menu bar in Kontact if I'm viewing Calender (KOrganizer)
[02:52] <Admiral_Chicago> not on Feisty Jucato
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i figured it out
[02:53] <Jucato> ok. I'm still on Edgy
[02:53] <dwidmann> Jucato: 3.5.5 or 3.5.6?
[02:54] <Jucato> 3.5.6
[02:54] <Jucato> it's not a problem really... just weird :P
[02:54] <EarthNStars> howdy
[02:55] <makuseru> hwo do i know if im behinf a firewall
[02:55] <Jucato> if you didn't install one, you're not
[02:56] <Jucato> ubuntu doesn't install a firewall by default (not sure about iptables stuff)
[02:56] <makuseru> why cant i connect to a knoppix machine then? i assume thats the reason it wont
[03:00] <dwidmann> iptables = firewall
[03:00] <dwidmann> !iptables
[03:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:05] <Balsamic_Chicken> kjh
[03:06] <slyfox> Jucato:  :-( I just logged out and chose Console Log in and I get a balck screen
[03:06] <slyfox> Jucato: from visual memmroy I typed in my user name and password and then sudo start x  and it worked, but all this time I had a balck screen
[03:08] <Prisoner_> hello
[03:08] <manchicken> Jucato: Check out my new installment to my series on Adept.
[03:09] <Admiral_Chicago> omg, manchicken give it up....
[03:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: manchicken and I are in #ubuntu-chicago talking ATM :)
[03:10] <manchicken> Admiral_Chicago: Sorry, I'm just too w00tiful for you to comprehend :P
[03:10] <Jucato> manchicken: is it really about Adept this time?
[03:10] <Jucato> manchicken: btw, you can't sudo apt-get install w32codecs :P
[03:11] <Admiral_Chicago> manchicken: nope, it's wget
[03:11] <makuseru> what would make me not be able to connect with desktop sharing to a knoppix machine but the knoppix box can connect to mine
[03:12] <manchicken> Jucato: You can if you set up the repos :P
[03:13] <slyfox> Jucato: is inittab something that exists in Ubuntu ?
[03:14] <dwidmann> inittab was retired as of edgy, it was part of the whole sysv init deal
[03:15] <Jucato> manchicken: not the official repos :P
[03:16] <victor_> hey how can i change my nick?
[03:16] <Morbo> victor_- /nick newnick
[03:16] <andre> can anyone help me with my dual monitors? my secondary is stuck at 800x600 (NVIDIA)
[03:16] <saga> thanks
[03:16] <danielb> victor
[03:16] <andre> the dudes at #nvidia don't help much
[03:16] <saga> daniel
[03:17] <manchicken> Jucato: I think that's a shame ^_^
[03:17] <saga> aja pelao
[03:17] <saga> que hago?
[03:17] <danielb> use unirse al canal
[03:17] <saga> donde esta eso?
[03:17] <Jucato> english only please
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !es
[03:17] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:17] <Jucato> manchicken: coming from you? that's a bit of a surprise :P
[03:18] <deathnote> hi what's a DDoS attack? deny of services ? how can i prevent it
[03:18] <Prisoner_> the system I'm planning to put Xubuntu on has an Nvidia GeForce card in it
[03:18] <manchicken> Jucato: My goal is to get Free software in the hands of users.  The real shame is that we haven't managed to reverse-engineer these codecs yet.  Until we do, however, we should continue to use what we can.
[03:19] <Jucato> manchicken: like video card drivers? :D
[03:19] <saga> man...
[03:19] <manchicken> Jucato: Sure... assuming they actually worked :P
[03:19] <saga> how can i connect to another channel?
[03:19] <danielb> ctrl + J
[03:19] <Jucato> saga: /join #channel
[03:19] <danielb> join channel
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> saga: /join #channel
[03:19] <manchicken> Admiral_Chicago: Weaksauce :P
[03:20] <deathnote> hi, is linux/kubuntu safe from DDoS?
[03:20] <manchicken> deathnote: Depends on how you set things up.
[03:21] <deathnote> !ddos
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <tahlvin> Can anyone help me? I'm having trouble playing a DVD on my uBook.
[03:31] <BluesKaj> just a particular dvd ,or dvds in general?
[03:35] <rudefyet> anyway I can make the little autorun box in KDE a different size by default
[03:35] <rudefyet> it's cutting off the buttons on the bottom
[03:35] <rudefyet> http://www.vortec6.com/kde-prob.jpg
[03:41] <ari> hello !!!
[03:41] <makuseru> can someone tell me how to set up a vnc server in knoppix
[03:41] <tahlvin> DVDs in general.
[03:41] <tahlvin> Blueskaj: Sorry about the wait, had to finish my game of solitaire.
[03:42] <nora> i like inux
[03:42] <tahlvin> :-(
[03:42] <tahlvin> Linux is cool, the learning curve is steep.
[03:42] <tahlvin> Case in point: me.
[03:43] <underdog5004> tahlvin, very steep...when I first started, I was totally unaware of this channel
[03:44] <tahlvin> Heh, ouch.
[03:44] <makuseru> can someone tell me how to set up a vnc server in knoppix
[03:44] <tahlvin> That musta been tough.
[03:44] <EarthNStars> tahlvin see here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[03:44] <underdog5004> tahlvin, yeah, but I had a lot of free time
[03:44] <tahlvin> earthnstars: Thanks.
[03:45] <tahlvin> underdog5004: I only knew about this because of bash.org. I installed Konversation then found #kubuntu.
[03:45] <frank___> EarthNStars: I just use easyubuntu to get up to speed
[03:45] <vimagar> hey i downloaded azureus an then it requested an update
[03:45] <underdog5004> my kaffeine keeps crashing on me, when I try to start it. I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4673/
[03:46] <vimagar> i downloaded it but then appears an error message
[03:46] <underdog5004> tahlvin, meh...never tried konversation, I use xchat
[03:46] <vimagar> saying that i don't have permits
[03:46] <makuseru> can someone tell me how to set up a vnc server in knoppix
[03:46] <underdog5004> vimagar, use sudo
[03:46] <vimagar> what can i do?
[03:46] <EarthNStars> im using konversation now, it seems to work just fine
[03:47] <underdog5004> vimagar, use sudo
[03:47] <vimagar> but how can i update from the console
[03:47] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get install azureus
[03:47] <vimagar> but i already have it
[03:47] <underdog5004> vimagar, please try to consolidate all you want to say on one line.
[03:47] <vimagar> it just an update
[03:47] <underdog5004> vimagar, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:48] <vimagar> wait a sec... let me get this straight
[03:48] <vimagar> tell me the command line to upgrade azureus...
[03:48] <vimagar> sorry to bother but i'm new to linux
[03:49] <vimagar> and let me say that this OS rocks!
[03:49] <underdog5004> vimagar, np, just open up a konsole, and type in sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:49] <underdog5004> vimagar, that'll do it, I think
[03:49] <nora> somebody can helpme
[03:49] <underdog5004> !anybody | nora
[03:49] <ubotu> nora: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:50] <underdog5004> nora, what can I help you with?
[03:50] <nora> thanks
[03:50] <nora> ok
[03:50] <vimagar> i see...those command lines updates everything
[03:50] <vimagar> and upgrade must do the same...
[03:51] <underdog5004> vimagar, yessir
[03:51] <underdog5004> vimagar, I believe that sudo apt-get install azureus should do it...
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> should work afaik
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !azureus
[03:51] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:51] <vimagar> man! this is so cool...thanks
[03:52] <underdog5004> vimagar, np, remember to pay it forward, lol
[03:52] <nora> i need to know how get any file it get from internet and save in a memory flash
[03:52] <underdog5004> nora, are you using firefox?
[03:52] <tahlvin> earthnstars: So do I just enter
[03:52] <tahlvin> sudo aptitude install libdvdread3
[03:52] <tahlvin> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[03:52] <tahlvin> sudo aptitude install totem-xine
[03:52] <nora> yes i do
[03:52] <tahlvin> Then it installs?
[03:53] <vimagar> another question...
[03:53] <vimagar> can you plat windows games in linux?
[03:53] <vimagar> i mean play
[03:53] <vimagar> sorry about that
[03:54] <EarthNStars> bring up the shell and and enter one line at a time just as you printed
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> !games | vimagar
[03:54] <ubotu> vimagar: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:54] <vimagar> !games
[03:54] <vimagar> whats that?
[03:55] <tahlvin> Shell means terminal?
[03:55] <Jucato> tahlvin: yes
[03:55] <Jucato> shell = command line = terminal
[03:55] <makuseru> can someone tell me how to set up a vnc server in knoppix
[03:56] <underdog5004> = kosole
[03:56] <underdog5004> *konsole
[03:56] <Jucato> underdog5004: console :)
[03:56] <underdog5004> konsole for kde
[03:56] <Jucato> Konsole is a console (terminal) emulator :)
[03:57] <underdog5004> hmmm, I didn't know that...you rock!
[03:58] <yotux> Is there a way to completely remove ubuntu after upgading to kubuntu?
[03:58] <tahlvin> All of the K's on Kubuntu make me feel like a kommunist...
[03:58] <tahlvin> ^.^
[03:58] <Jucato> well to be extremely technical: terminal = console (originally a device that had a monitor and an input device/keyboard). shell = command line interpreter program
[03:59] <Jucato> yotux: try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:59] <yotux> thankz
[04:00] <vimagar> how can i install wine?
[04:00] <underdog5004> vimagar, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:01] <vimagar> man... you really rock!
[04:01] <coreymon77> no
[04:01] <coreymon77> apt really rocks
[04:02] <tahlvin> Hehe.
[04:02] <vimagar> hehehe
[04:02] <vimagar> that may be true
[04:02] <underdog5004> yeah
[04:02] <vimagar> but you rock!
[04:02] <underdog5004> thanks
[04:02] <coreymon77> it is true
[04:02] <underdog5004> pay it forward
[04:02] <underdog5004> lol
[04:02] <vimagar> will do
[04:02] <coreymon77> apt is the best thing to ever happen to linux
[04:02] <underdog5004> tahlvin
[04:02] <underdog5004> coreymon77, seems pretty good to me
[04:02] <yotux> vimagar -> you could try crossover office its commercial wine
[04:03] <coreymon77> small problem with crossover
[04:03] <yotux> yes
[04:03] <coreymon77> it messes with your file asociations
[04:03] <vimagar> how?
[04:03] <yotux> I think you can disable that
[04:03] <yotux> I use crossover
[04:03] <coreymon77> i used it
[04:03] <coreymon77> and all of a sudden
[04:03] <coreymon77> i couldnt preview jpegs anymore
[04:04] <vimagar> man...
[04:04] <yotux> interesting
[04:04] <vimagar> i'm hungry
[04:04] <vimagar> starvin'
[04:04] <coreymon77> it messes with alot of your mimetype settings
[04:05] <vimagar> with your permission...
[04:05] <word> What's the equivelant to ipconfig renew in linux? ipconfig doesn't seem to have that function
[04:05] <vimagar> be back in a while
[04:05] <underdog5004> ifconfig
[04:05] <word> i meant ifconfig the second time
[04:05] <underdog5004> not sure about options...do this: man ifconfig
[04:05] <underdog5004> that'll get you going
[04:05] <word> underdog5004: i did...that's how i know it doesn't seem to have that function
[04:05] <underdog5004> hmmm
[04:05] <underdog5004> lemme read the man pages...h/o
[04:06] <underdog5004> my kaffeine keeps crashing on me, when I try to start it. I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4673/
[04:06] <coreymon77> vimagar: and its the biggest pain in the ass to take away thyat permission
[04:06] <underdog5004> word, I think options
[04:07] <underdog5004> up and down would work, as they enable/disable the device
[04:09] <yotux> how would one remove cups
[04:09] <underdog5004> yotux, sudo apt-get remove --purge cups
[04:09] <underdog5004> I think
[04:10] <Jucato> without cupsy, you won't be able to print
[04:10] <Jucato> cups*
[04:10] <word> underdog5004: alright thanks my brother works in a tech support call center I think he just got his first linux call lol.
[04:10] <yotux> Cups takes 5 mins to print 1 page for me
[04:10] <underdog5004> lol
[04:10] <yotux> I was going to get source and compile
[04:10] <makuseru> can someone tell me how to set up a vnc server in knoppix
[04:10] <underdog5004> tech support for who?
[04:11] <word> underdog5004: 2wire, an at&t company he helps people setup their modems/networks
[04:11] <underdog5004> ah
[04:12] <underdog5004> I hate techs that say that only windows is supported...lol
[04:12] <yotux> makuseru -> not trying to be cruel but try knoppix channel?
[04:12] <word> underdog5004: heh ;p on their driver cd it says in all caps - "DO NOT USE WITH ANYTHING ABOVE WINDOWS XP" and he's had a few calls from people getting blue screens of death with vista ;p
[04:13] <makuseru> everyone is dead i nthere
[04:13] <underdog5004> rofl, in the computer shop I work in, we weren't able to install AV on vista until they came out w/ a new version...same thing, bsods
[04:13] <yotux> makuseru -> sorry mate
[04:14] <slyfox> Jucato: I think my problem could be because I isntalled Beryl
[04:14] <Jucato> slyfox: hm... could be. but I can go to a tty1 in Beryl... but sometimes can't go back to X
[04:15] <slyfox> Jucato: you actualy have Beryl running ?
[04:15] <Jucato> since yesterday
[04:15] <jay> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0 what causes that error?
[04:16] <eugene> where is the k contorl
[04:16] <slyfox> Jucato: will yelessou keep it? I hate it that with Beryl  I cannot have separate tasbars for each Desktop? Virtual desktops become us
[04:17] <underdog5004> eugene, sudo kcontrol
[04:17] <Jucato> !changethemes | eugene
[04:17] <ubotu> eugene: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:17] <Jucato> underdog5004: no need for sudo
[04:17] <CainMadness> Someone want to help me set up CompositeManager/XGL? I keep running into errors, when following help.ubuntu.com's recommended way to set it up.
[04:17] <Jucato> eugene: you don't need "sudo kcontrol"
[04:17] <underdog5004> right, I meant, kdesu
[04:17] <underdog5004> lol
[04:17] <Jucato> Alt+F2, kcontrol will do
[04:17] <Jucato> underdog5004: not even.
[04:18] <Jucato> underdog5004: unless you need to run kcontrol as root...
[04:18] <vimagar> you wouldn't believe what i just ate
[04:18] <dawn_> dog poo
[04:18] <underdog5004> I think you do to change anything...
[04:18] <slyfox> Jucato: will you keep it? I hate it that with Beryl  I cannot have separate tasbars for each Desktop? Virtual desktops become us
[04:18] <Jucato> bill gates
[04:19] <vimagar> hehehe nice one
[04:19] <dawn_> michael Dell?
[04:19] <dawn_> Steve case
[04:19] <vimagar> lol
[04:19] <dawn_> chair tossing Ballmer?
[04:19] <Jucato> slyfox: for the mean time, yes. Beryl uses viewports instead of desktops, but it can have desktops. I'm still fiddling w/ it so I'm not really familiar
[04:19] <dawn_> you ate the wow in Vista
[04:19] <dawn_> :P
[04:20] <slyfox> Jucato: but these view ports all have the same tasbar,? what is the point of viewports then ?
[04:20] <underdog5004> man...that has got to be the lamest advert concerning Vista: The
[04:20] <underdog5004> Wow starts now?
[04:20] <dawn_> LMAO
[04:20] <dawn_> I agree
[04:20] <underdog5004> come on!
[04:20] <vimagar> hehe...
[04:20] <Jucato> slyfox: dunno. like I said, I'm not familiar with beryl.. been only running it for a day. ask/rant in #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[04:20] <dawn_> I retorted with... "Ummmm the wow was running back in WIN95"
[04:21] <underdog5004> lol, I'd better take this to the #kubuntu-offtopic channel before I get kicked...
[04:21] <jay> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0 what causes that error?
[04:22] <vimagar> i see that we don't like billy that much... ;)
[04:22] <CainMadness> Someone want to help me set up CompositeManager/XGL? I keep running into errors, when following help.ubuntu.com's recommended way to set it up.
[04:23] <Jucato> !beryl | CainMadness
[04:23] <ubotu> CainMadness: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:23] <vimagar> anyone has played windows games in linux?
[04:23] <Jucato> CainMadness: the /topic in that channel has some links/guides
[04:23] <CainMadness> Mmk.
[04:24] <vimagar> UT is good NWN is better
[04:25] <tahlvin> earthnstars: could you resend me that link please?
[04:25] <vimagar> by natively you mean that i don't need anything to play it right?
[04:26] <Jucato> vimagar: natively = no need for Wine
[04:26] <vimagar> i see
[04:26] <Jucato> vimagar: err... sorry
[04:26] <Jucato> I think WoW and GuildWars need Wine
[04:26] <vimagar> any help about how to install those games?
[04:26] <Jucato> !games
[04:26] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:26] <Jucato> see those pages
[04:27] <tahlvin> Can someone please scroll up and grab me the link earthnstars sent to me earlier? I had to re login as admin to install, and now I lost the link...
 tahlvin see here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[04:29] <tahlvin> Thanks so much!
[04:33] <drarem> is there an irc for openoffice
[04:33] <Jucato> O.o
[04:33] <Jucato> why would it have one?
[04:34] <drarem> cause i'm an imbecile
[04:34] <Jucato> -_-
[04:35] <drarem> actually i'm trying to do a sum(if(month).. but it sums up all the columns anyway
[04:35] <Jucato> aah.
[04:35] <drarem> if the month exists in a field
[04:35] <drarem> oops, a channel
[04:35] <Jucato> try #openoffice or #openoffice.org
[04:35] <Jucato> not really sure which of the two
[04:36] <slyfox> Jucato: I am being told that my problem is "that's an Xorg issue with compositing"
[04:36] <drarem> ahh  .org has a few in there, thanks
[04:36] <slyfox> it's xorg issue with framebuffer (in vts) + compositing
[04:36] <tahlvin> I entered sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh but it says that it's not a command.
[04:36] <tahlvin> And I don't think it is.
[04:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ./ command.sh
[04:37] <Admiral_Chicago> it's an executeably
[04:37] <vimagar> people
[04:37] <Admiral_Chicago> good snacking Jucato
[04:37] <vimagar> do you know how to uninstall xilinx
[04:37] <vimagar> ?
[04:37] <tahlvin> admiral_chicago: So what does that mean?
[04:38] <jmichaelx> how does one install konqueror again, if it was (for some reason) uninstalled? when i try to install it, it says i have unmet dependencies...
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> tahlvin: that when you want to run it, you type ./ then the name of the file
[04:38] <tahlvin> With the period?
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[04:38] <tahlvin> Kk. I'll try that.
[04:38] <vimagar> do you know how to uninstall xilinx?
[04:39] <tahlvin> So "sudo ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh"
[04:39] <tahlvin> 'Cause it doesn't like that either...
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo ./ whatever.sh
[04:40] <SpudDogg> Anyone here?
[04:41] <dwidmann> take away the dot unless the file is in the same directory tahlvin
[04:42] <underdog5004> tahlvin, have you chmod +x 'ed it?
[04:42] <jmichaelx> if someone could help me with this konqueror situation, it would be uch appreciated
[04:42] <jmichaelx> much*
[04:43] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, what's up?
[04:43] <jmichaelx> well... i uninstalled konqueror...
[04:43] <jmichaelx> and tried to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[04:44] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, why?
[04:44] <underdog5004> but, on with the problem
[04:44] <jmichaelx> kde kept crashing when i tried to play media files with kaffeine
[04:44] <underdog5004> hmmm
[04:45] <jmichaelx> but kde is still here... and it won't let me re-install... it says the dependencies are unmet, which is really weird
[04:45] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, how are you installing kde? or konq, or whatever
[04:45] <tahlvin> Underdog5004: It was in the wrong directory...
[04:45] <underdog5004> tahlvin, ah
[04:45] <tahlvin> underdog5004: I went to manually find the file and they left a folder out of the directory thingy.
[04:46] <jmichaelx> sudo apt-get install konqueror
[04:46] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, hmmm, that sounds right...
[04:46] <underdog5004> did you do sudo apt-get install kde?
[04:46] <jmichaelx> i could try that, brb
[04:47] <jmichaelx> no, it says i have unmet dependencies.... WTF?
[04:47] <jmichaelx> F = Fun
[04:48] <jmichaelx> i don't get it
[04:48] <underdog5004> hmmm, do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <jmichaelx> i have already done that
[04:48] <jmichaelx> does not work
[04:48] <vimagar> i thought you said what the Fox
[04:49] <vimagar> ;)
[04:49] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, hmm, do you have any mission critical data on your computer? you may need to reinstall...or get someone else to help you who knows more...
[04:49] <jmichaelx> good grief
[04:50] <underdog5004> yeah...maybe do this
[04:50] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get install -reinstall konqueror kde
[04:50] <jmichaelx> ok ill try that
[04:50] <tahlvin> I AM THE GREATEST!
[04:50] <tahlvin> Possibly...
[04:50] <underdog5004> reinstall might have two dashes
[04:51] <underdog5004> tahlvin, why?
[04:51] <tahlvin> I think it mighta worked.
[04:51] <jmichaelx> unmet dependencies
[04:51] <jmichaelx> that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard of
[04:51] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, ok, let me think on this one...
[04:52] <jmichaelx> ok, i appreciate the suggestions
[04:52] <tahlvin> I am a happy camper!
[04:52] <underdog5004> what happens when you do sudo apt-get remove --purge konqueror?
[04:53] <underdog5004> tahlvin, why?
[04:53] <tahlvin> I got the DVD player to work!
[04:53] <underdog5004> tahlvin, woo-hoo!
[04:53] <tahlvin> And I did all this stuff in the terminal and found some stuff by myself and put the slashes and dots and sudos in!
[04:53] <tahlvin> I feel like a linux user!
[04:54] <jmichaelx> the retarded thing is that even though kubuntu-desktop and kde are not installed, i still have kde
[04:55] <jmichaelx> and.... a person should be able to uninstall and install a desktop
[04:56] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, sudo apt-get remove kdm
[04:56] <underdog5004> K Desktop Manager
[04:56] <underdog5004> I think
[04:57] <jmichaelx> underdog5004: will that just be one more thing that it will not be willing to re-install?
[04:57] <underdog5004> I hope not...
[04:57] <jmichaelx> i want KDE
[04:58] <jmichaelx> yeah, i am not going to uninstall kdm at this point
[04:58] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> im using kubuntu 6.10 already.. what other packages do i need to make my kubuntu experience better???
[04:58] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, does apt tell you what unmet dependancies you have?
[04:58] <underdog5004> ^LoRd_NiTrO^, what do you want to do?
[04:58] <jmichaelx> yeah
[04:59] <jmichaelx> konqueror: Depends: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[04:59] <underdog5004> jmichael, try apt-get installing those
[04:59] <jmichaelx> already tried that
[04:59] <underdog5004> ok, you've exhausted my storehouse of knowledge...
[05:00] <jmichaelx> everything i have tried should have worked
[05:00] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, absolutely
[05:01] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> hmm.. wanted to start learning the shells first...
[05:01] <wheatie> it's almost like you have conflicting entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:01] <underdog5004> !bash
[05:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:01] <jmichaelx> i do appreciate the help underdog5004
[05:01] <underdog5004> np
[05:01] <underdog5004> !bash | ^LoRd_NiTrO^
[05:01] <ubotu> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: please see above
[05:02] <jmichaelx> is kde 3.5.6 in the ubunt repos now?\
[05:02] <underdog5004> ^LoRd_NiTrO^, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:02] <jmichaelx> man this sucks
[05:02] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, I don't think so...but I just added the kde.org repo into my sources.list temporarily
[05:02] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> underdog5004: what's Amarok?
[05:02] <underdog5004> !Amarok | ^LoRd_NiTrO^
[05:02] <ubotu> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:02] <jmichaelx> yeah, i still have that repo enabled....
[05:03] <underdog5004> Whoa, never do a sudo apt-cache search kde...
[05:03] <wheatie> jmichaelx, out of curiousity do you mind pasting the output of /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin?
[05:04] <jmichaelx> wheatie, i can
[05:04] <wheatie> and the error again if you dont mind.
[05:08] <jmichaelx> i can't figure out how to copy the entire sources.list
[05:09] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> how can i access my NTFS and FAT32 partitions in kubuntu?
[05:11] <firecrotch> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: For NTFS, you'll need ntfs-3g if you want to write to it, the FAT partition just needs to be mounted
[05:11] <wheatie> open konsole and type  cat /etc/apt/sources.list, highlight and paste
[05:12] <jmichaelx> you can't highlight the whole thing... does the kubuntu pastebin not work?
[05:12] <jmichaelx> ok
[05:12] <julio01> any mexican here?
[05:12] <jmichaelx> wheatie: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/877999
[05:13] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> how do you mount the FAT partition? and where can i get ntfs-3g?
[05:13] <tahlvin> Does anyone here use Totem to play DVDs?
[05:14] <firecrotch> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: mount -t vfat device mountpoint   for FAT
[05:14] <julio01> totem just doesn't works good, you can find a better program
[05:15] <firecrotch> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: Install ntfs-3g with "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[05:16] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> thanks firecrotch..
[05:16] <jmichaelx> wheatie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4683/
[05:16] <firecrotch> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: no problem :)
[05:17] <kelevra> hola
[05:17] <firecrotch> hola, kelevra
[05:17] <kelevra> hola como estas
[05:17] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> firecrotch: can i use apt-gat to install apache, mysql and php? or do i have to download them....
[05:18] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> apt-get*
[05:18] <wheatie> jmichaelx, try commenting out automatix and apt-get update / upgrade. mine looks like this...
[05:18] <wheatie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4685/
[05:19] <firecrotch> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: You can! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP should help you out
[05:19] <Adross> i just installed kubuntu-desktop and for some reason artsd is maxing out my cpu. Whatever should i do?
[05:20] <wheatie> brb
[05:20] <kelevra> hay gente de ispana
[05:21] <firecrotch> !es | kelevra
[05:21] <ubotu> kelevra: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <kelevra> gracias
[05:21] <jmichaelx> wheatie: ok, i commented out the automatix stuff.... made no difference
[05:22] <firecrotch> kelevra: de nada
[05:23] <dwidmann> jmichaelx: if you're having trouble with your sources.list, feel free to borrow mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4686/
[05:24] <jmichaelx> dwidmann: i don't think that is what the problem is
[05:25] <dwidmann> Could be, worth a try at any rate
[05:25] <dwidmann> that's what half of dependency problems turn out being anyway
[05:26] <wheatie> my thoughts also.
[05:26] <wheatie> bbl
[05:26] <MukiEX> Anyone here got a wacom tablet with a mouse?
[05:28] <jmichaelx> i will try , brb
[05:31] <root> can someone hav a look at http://www.pastebin.ca/344991 for me please? fglrx not working
[05:34] <jmichaelx> dwidmann: i used your sources and have the same errors
[05:35] <dwidmann> Humm
[05:37] <dwidmann> jmichaelx: one thing you _could_ do is apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop, copy all of its dependencies into kate, trim it down so it's just the names seperated by spaces, and run apt-get install <that list>
[05:37] <dwidmann> long way around but it should do the trick
[05:38] <underdog5004> dwidmann, whoa, didn't know that was possible...I love apt!
[05:39] <dwidmann> underdog5004: hehe yup
[05:40] <flaccid> !find ksvn
[05:40] <ubotu> Package/file ksvn does not exist in edgy
[05:40] <flaccid> damn. anybody use ksvn ?
[05:41] <underdog5004> what does it do?
[05:41] <sheldonc3> not kdesvn ?
[05:42] <flaccid> nope ksvn http://sourceforge.net/projects/ksvn
[05:42] <underdog5004> flaccid, what is ksvn's purpose?
[05:43] <stinger_au> yo
[05:44] <firecrotch> hello, stinger_au
[05:44] <stinger_au> i am looking for a linux distro to be my server, i would like to run a proxy server, file server and record digital TV with my Dtv1000
[05:44] <flaccid> underdog5004: its an svn client i believe
[05:45] <stinger_au> i install openBSD just to find out that it does not support DVB :(
[05:45] <xerroz> anyone have success getting radeon dri to work ?
[05:45] <flaccid> stinger_au: you have come to the right place
[05:45] <stinger_au> he he
[05:45] <stinger_au> yeah
[05:45] <Jucato> flaccid: it's a "Konqueror-integrated frontend to SVN"
[05:45] <stinger_au> so i thought i would get ubuntu a go
[05:45] <stinger_au> i run gentoo on my desktop
[05:45] <flaccid> Jucato: yes which means its a client
[05:45] <flaccid> effectively..
[05:46] <stinger_au> my desktop is a 4400 AMD so gentoo likes it fast to compile stuff but the server is not as powerful so ubuntu seems the go
[05:46] <Jucato> well,, "effectively"
[05:46] <Jucato> flaccid: have you tried kdesvn-kio-plugins? not really sure if they could do the same thing
[05:46] <flaccid> why do you have to be trivial?>
[05:46] <stinger_au> flaccid, so which should i use kubuntu, xubuntu or ubuntu ?
[05:47] <stinger_au> i been reading about this webmin sounds very nice :)
[05:47] <stinger_au> i want to do QoS with my torrents
[05:48] <stinger_au> whats the diff between these differnt ubuntu's ? i have read that xbuntu is lighter on system resources
[05:48] <flaccid> stinger_au: ubuntu if you are doing server, but you can do a server install from kubuntu anyway. just confirm that the software you need for the digital tv is available in ubuntu
[05:49] <underdog5004> xubuntu
[05:49] <stinger_au> flaccid, what package distrobution system does ubuntu use ?
[05:49] <flaccid> the differnce is the DE. ie. ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde and xubuntu = xfce. if you don't install a DE, they are pretty much the same
[05:49] <flaccid> stinger_au: debian system
[05:49] <Jucato> stranger: Deb
[05:49] <stinger_au> oh i see
[05:49] <flaccid> i think he was asking me :)
[05:49] <stinger_au> but i can just install ubuntu and then my own desktop env
[05:49] <Jucato> fine
[05:49] <flaccid> yep sure
[05:49] <stinger_au> the KDE that comes with it i would say is bloated yeah ?
[05:50] <flaccid> kde is a bit bloated imo, but not bloaty enough not to use it
[05:50] <xerroz> flaccid: kde4 will show significant improvements in this area
[05:50] <stinger_au> k so they are all the same apart from the desktop
[05:50] <flaccid> its still my de of choice because gnome/gtk is ugly imo
[05:50] <stinger_au> yeah
[05:51] <stinger_au> i like kde
[05:51] <flaccid> xerroz: thats what i like to hear :)
[05:51] <stinger_au> i just prefer to start with the base-kde and build it up with what i want
[05:51] <xerroz> i never could use gnome, disgusting, imo
[05:51] <flaccid> stinger_au: do a server isntall then go from there
[05:52] <stinger_au> a server install - so there is a cd for that ?
[05:52] <underdog5004> !alternate | stinger_au
[05:52] <ubotu> stinger_au: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:53] <xerroz> flaccid: yeah, well with Qt4, the code is slighty faster, less memory demanding
[05:53] <stinger_au> ubotu, ok btw what package system is used with ubuntu ?
[05:53] <xerroz> stinger_au: apt
[05:53] <Jucato> !bot | stinger_au
[05:53] <ubotu> stinger_au: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:54] <flaccid> cool
[05:54] <stinger_au> xeros, so xubuntu is compiled with QT4 optimisations ?
[05:54] <xerroz> xubuntu is based on XFACE afaik
[05:54] <xerroz> XFCE*
[05:54] <xerroz> or w/e that damn thing is called
[05:55] <stinger_au> yeah but you could install ubuntu then just install xfce yeah ?
[05:55] <flaccid> kubuntu uses qt3
[05:55] <stinger_au> ack ok so they all have the same base system
[05:55] <xerroz> thats pretty much what xubuntu is
[05:55] <surgy> hey guys
[05:55] <stinger_au> arr
[05:55] <flaccid> you could by doing sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <xerroz> much the same as kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[05:56] <xerroz> kubuntu uses KDE3, which uses Qt3
[05:56] <stinger_au> right
[05:56] <stinger_au> hmm
[05:56] <flaccid> no qt4
[05:56] <stinger_au> well i have a AMD duron 1.6 with 512mb ram
[05:56] <xerroz> flaccid: afraid not
[05:56] <dbglt> has anyone managed to get horizontal scrolling working on a laptop touchpad? According to my xorg config, it should be enabled, but only vertical scroll works
[05:56] <xerroz> Qt4 was not released until after KDE3
[05:56] <stinger_au> so as a server sounds like xubuntu is the better option ?
[05:57] <flaccid> hehe i'm happy with waiting for it
[05:57] <surgy> i gota problem, my g/f's lappy was working great, and now all of a sudden, it cannot find any dns server including http://www.google.com
[05:57] <flaccid> stinger_au: no any ubuntu server install. you want to put a desktop on your server?
[05:57] <flaccid> surgy: do a host -v google.com
[05:57] <underdog5004> stinger_au, a server install is all commandline, no gui at all
[05:57] <stinger_au> yeah
[05:57] <stinger_au> well
[05:57] <stinger_au> i still need a gui a bit
[05:57] <flaccid> well you get a TUI with curses for server install iirc
[05:58] <underdog5004> well, yeah
[05:58] <stinger_au> i need to run kaffeine
[05:58] <underdog5004> rtorrent is good for servers as well...
[05:58] <flaccid> stinger_au: just add your desired desktop environment after the server isntall
[05:58] <dbglt> what package do I need to  enable thumbnail previews of avi files in konqueror?
[05:58] <stinger_au> flaccid, so during ubuntu install it asks if you want a server install yaeh ?
[05:58] <flaccid> um
[05:59] <flaccid> i can't remember tbh
[05:59] <stinger_au> xerroz, why not ? it runs nice easy to use
[05:59] <underdog5004> stinger_au, no, you need to d/l the alternateCD
[06:00] <flaccid> there you go, underdog5004 repeated for you
[06:00] <xerroz> because kaffeine uses xine
[06:00] <underdog5004> xerroz, kaffeine keeps crashing on start...total bummer
[06:00] <xerroz> and the interface is less than super, but thats just me
[06:00] <underdog5004> my kaffeine keeps crashing on me, when I try to start it. I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4673/
[06:01] <stinger_au> xerroz, what do you use then ?
[06:01] <surgy> flaccid: got a time out no service could be reached
[06:01] <flaccid> surgy: which servers did it try?
[06:01] <stinger_au> btw is there a bigger list of links to get xubuntu ? i would like one near Australia
[06:01] <xerroz> underdog5004: run kaffeine in console and pastebin that
[06:01] <surgy> flaccid "google.com"
[06:01] <underdog5004> k, h/o
[06:01] <slyfox_> anyone knows how to fix xorg? my console login does not work because of something in xorg, everythng else works finr though
[06:01] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> where can i get the list of all available packages for kubuntu? my kubuntu box is not connected to the internet so i have to download the packages as tgz or zip...
[06:01] <flaccid> surgy: not the query, the server it tried to query. it should say
[06:01] <xerroz> stinger_au: either commandline mplayer, or suffer through kaffeine
[06:02] <flaccid> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: maybe apt:// in konqi ?
[06:02] <stinger_au> xerroz, he he well i have both installed, kaffeine does the job and also records TV nice
[06:02] <underdog5004> no way...it worked this time...
[06:02] <stinger_au> what version of kaffeine is in the apt-get ?
[06:02] <Jucato> apt:/ not apt://
[06:02] <surgy> flaccid: it says "trying: google.com"  and then "connection timed out, no server could be reached"
[06:02] <xerroz> underdog5004: lol nice
[06:03] <firecrotch> !find kaffeine
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: kaffeine, kaffeine-xine, kaffeine-mozilla
[06:03] <xerroz> surgy: dhclient eth0
[06:03] <Jucato> oh yeah, I forgot, I'm not answering this time...
[06:03] <stinger_au> just kaffeine
[06:03] <xerroz> surgy: or ath0, or wlan0, or whatever your device is
[06:03] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> flaccid: im currently using firefox on Xp os..
[06:03] <draik> hey Jucato
[06:03] <flaccid> surgy: the servers under the directive "nameserver" in /etc/resolv.conf could not be reached, perhaps they are done or incorrectly specified?
[06:03] <underdog5004> xerroz, although, I can debug/backtrace and that's in the pastebin I put out there...
[06:03] <firecrotch> !info kaffeine
[06:03] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2160 kB, installed size 5868 kB
[06:03] <Jucato> hi draik
[06:03] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[06:03] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:03] <flaccid> dhclient is not going to help dns unless you have a dhcp server and don't have the correct nameservers...
[06:04] <xerroz> flaccid: assuming hes using a router, or broadband, dhclient will get all that automagically
[06:04] <flaccid> surgy could be static dns for all we know
[06:04] <flaccid> why assume?
[06:05] <surgy> flaccid: always had permissions problems with the lappy, and it giving permission errors accessing the eth0 interface..... its an oem install and we had to manually add penguin as sudo user......... that is the root of our problem i think. does that make sense?
[06:05] <stinger_au> are there apt-get servers in Australia ?
[06:05] <stinger_au> lol
[06:05] <stinger_au> seems like for me all the links are over seas
[06:05] <flaccid> surgy: check /etc/resolv.conf. all users should have read access. pastebin it for me.
[06:05] <draik> It's late... I lack sleep... my patience for idiots from work tomorrow is REALLY dying out
[06:05] <draik> Night all
[06:06] <surgy> flaccid: umm how long is that.... i will see, its in another room with a three foot ethernet cable :(
[06:06] <flaccid> how long is what? /etc/resolv.conf is a small file usually. only a few lines
[06:07] <surgy> flaccid: ok kewl
[06:07] <xerroz> surgy: do you have a router?
[06:08] <surgy> xerroz: yes
[06:08] <surgy> two of them
[06:08] <flaccid> if he didn't have a router, he wouldn't be on the net :)
[06:08] <xerroz> flaccid: ya never know...
[06:08] <stinger_au> lol
[06:08] <xerroz> surgy: and is your router setup correctly to handle dhcp and clients?
[06:08] <flaccid> that would be some freaky shiz
[06:09] <flaccid> the problem is dns here
[06:09] <surgy> flaccid: well i did "sudo kate /etc/resolv.conf " it spit out like 28 error messages and now its online....... was that magic?
[06:09] <flaccid> lets find out the dns servers first...
[06:09] <flaccid> um you don't wanna do that
[06:09] <surgy> xerroz: the computer im using now is on the same router, same os and i dont have a problem
[06:09] <flaccid> kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf
[06:09] <flaccid> but you don't even need root
[06:09] <surgy> ok
[06:09] <flaccid> unless the perms on /etc/resolv.conf have been changed
[06:10] <surgy> flaccid: only two lines there 1: "search gateway.2wire.net"  2: "nameserver 192.168.1.254"
[06:10] <stinger_au> is there a place where you set the source location that apt-get uses ?
[06:11] <flaccid> surgy: ok and is 192.168.1.254 your local dns server on your lan?
[06:11] <surgy> flaccid: gateway.2wire.net is the dns site for my router
[06:11] <surgy> flaccid: yes
[06:11] <flaccid> well 192.168.1.254 if failing for lookups...
[06:13] <surgy> flaccid: for whatever reason, the internet connection seams fine now......... i cant figure it out.... unless i have ardware failure somewhere
[06:14] <underdog5004> !opendns
[06:14] <flaccid> most likely your router failing dns relay. very common
[06:14] <dawn_> opendns is cool
[06:14] <surgy> like a shorted ethernet cable
[06:14] <underdog5004> !opendns
[06:14] <flaccid> get your router to give the isp dns server address instead of the router. if that is not possible, consider setting staticly
[06:14] <underdog5004> hmmm, never had ubotu quit before...maybe more botsnacks were in order...
[06:14] <surgy> flacid, but my router goes to a hub, the hub splits it to this pc and the lappy, if it failed one it whould fail the other right?
[06:15] <flaccid> not necessarily
[06:15] <flaccid> still different variables between the two
[06:16] <surgy> the ip is not the same but the port address is right?
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opendns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <xerroz> anywho, anyone have success getting radeon DRI drivers to work?
[06:16] <surgy> i dont know, yeah ill  take a look at my router...... strange ive never seen this
[06:17] <ubuntu_> someone from peru??
[06:17] <flaccid> surgy: i don't know what you mean
[06:17] <flaccid> surgy: its common. its it a netcomm, netgear or dlink?
[06:17] <surgy> flaccid: no
[06:17] <flaccid> what brand, ?
[06:18] <underdog5004> !es
[06:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:18] <surgy> flaccid: a 2wire firewall/router/adsl modem    that goes to a linksys hub and from there it goes to the lappy and my pc
[06:19] <flaccid> ok i havnt heard of 2wire sorry
[06:19] <flaccid> is the hub an actual hub, or a switch?
[06:19] <stinger_au> will kaffeine run on xfce ?
[06:19] <surgy> flaccid: a basic hub, nothing special
[06:20] <flaccid> how old is it?
[06:20] <underdog5004> stinger_au, yes, but you will need to install KDE libs
[06:20] <surgy> flaccid:  http://www.2wire.com/?p=205
[06:20] <underdog5004> it'll be automatic
[06:20] <surgy> flaccid: not more than a year and a half
[06:20] <flaccid> it is a switch
[06:20] <stinger_au> underdog5004, arr ok
[06:21] <underdog5004> arr?
[06:21] <flaccid> they don't make hubs anymore
[06:21] <underdog5004> hubs today == switches
[06:21] <surgy> flaccid: oh lol shows how much i know, i know the very basics...... heres a link to the router/modem http://www.2wire.com/?p=205
[06:21] <flaccid> hubs are shite
[06:21] <flaccid> switches are buffered and rule
[06:22] <underdog5004> yep
[06:22] <surgy> the router/modem is less than a month old got it on a contract through sbc/yahoo
[06:22] <flaccid> there is no hubs today...
[06:22] <surgy> kewl
[06:22] <flaccid> surgy: yeah doesn't mean its good :) failure of dns relay is very common in soho routers and a lot use the same firmware/hardware between vendors
[06:23] <surgy> flaccid: i love it, it has a nice gui, for control of wifi and firewall, and all the settings for my adsl. but you could be right. although its not a cheap one, if that matters, it was $200
[06:24] <flaccid> thats cheap
[06:24] <surgy> yeah?
[06:24] <flaccid> and all in ones are more likely to have problems
[06:24] <flaccid> yes it is
[06:24] <underdog5004> hee hee hee
[06:24] <flaccid> any all in ones are only cheap soho solutions
[06:25] <surgy> flaccid: lol guess i didnt know, i paid $50 for my netgear router, and its trash
[06:25] <flaccid> no offense but you may of not set it up correctly
[06:25] <surgy> flaccid: i didnt even set it up:) and none taken, it seamingly set itself up
[06:25] <firecrotch> Okay, so I have a linksys router, and since it runs Linux, I'd like to *try* to do some cool stuff with it.  Any ideas? Or does anyone know of any good sites?
[06:25] <flaccid> scary
[06:26] <flaccid> firecrotch: its all over the net/google. but yeah sorry i aint got round to playing with one yet
[06:26] <sheldonc3> netgear is garbage, linksys seems to work, but holy crap if your router works dont screw with it
[06:26] <sheldonc3> :)
[06:27] <surgy> flaccid: actually the only thing i had to set up was the firewall
[06:30] <flaccid> netgear is good, but they seem to make errors in their implementation
[06:30] <flaccid> it has a *nix firmware with pppd and thats good, but yeah kind of woefull in other areas
[06:30] <flaccid> and yes linksys rule, i'll get one of those next coz i have a shite dlink atrm
[06:32] <xerroz> eww d-link..
[06:33] <surgy> flaccid: my linksys hub, erm sorry switch, is great, never one problem, it has ran for 15 months without a reset or even looking at it, and no problem at all :) dont know if thats becuase its a switch or if thats becuase its good
[06:33] <underdog5004> I work in a computer shop, and netgear routers fail the most...can't think of any other router that gets returned...USR kicks ass
[06:33] <flaccid> its because its a switch
[06:33] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> flaccid and xerroz: so in ur own opinion the best router to be used for *nix is linksys??
[06:34] <flaccid> unamanaged switches have no firmware, they simply switch
[06:34] <flaccid> so they don't crash
[06:34] <flaccid> very rarely would one
[06:34] <xerroz> ^LoRd_NiTrO^: of all the brands of routers, the only one i will continue to give my money to is Linksys
[06:35] <underdog5004> I prefer USR...but that's me
[06:35] <crazy_bus> For some reason Kget isn't working and is coming up with this error. "Could not connect to host........"  If I try to download the same file with a different download manager it downloads perfectly
[06:36] <surgy> flaccid: i had a netgear switch once was made exactly like this linksys one. dont know if it was becuase i had it setup wrong or something, but i had to reset it all the time, to get my network to stay working.
[06:37] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> is LAMP installed by default on kubuntu?
[06:37] <Jucato> not on the Desktop CD
[06:37] <Jucato> !lamp
[06:37] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:37] <xerroz> I fear my T40, Pentium M 1.60Ghz w/512mB's of memory is no longer suffcient for my developing needs :(
[06:38] <flaccid> its common to have to reboot routers
[06:38] <flaccid> unfortunately
[06:38] <flaccid> well at least soho quality ones
[06:38] <flaccid> and yeah the netgear and linksys similar firmware
[06:38] <surgy> xerroz: ill give you $50 for it right now :)
[06:38] <xerroz> haha :)
[06:39] <flaccid> and the bittrorrent/traffic, the more likey to crash
[06:39] <flaccid> i've gone through about 8 routers due to the unreliability
[06:39] <flaccid> have come to conclusion linksys might be the best
[06:39] <underdog5004> flaccid, haven't had that problem...and I run rtorrent on my server 24/7
[06:39] <xerroz> i keep going into swap :(, almost up to 1GB frequently
[06:40] <flaccid> underdog5004 != everyone
[06:40] <flaccid> ;)
[06:40] <underdog5004> of course not...not everyone is as cool as me (so says my mommy!)
[06:40] <flaccid> underdog5004: you have a good router, hold on to it
[06:40] <flaccid> lol
[06:40] <surgy> flaccid < everyone but surgy > ALL!
[06:40] <flaccid> well mines is shite too
[06:42] <slyfox> can anyone help fix the console? I cannot log into the console
[06:42] <underdog5004> slyfox, how's it going on? what's the error?
[06:43] <slyfox> underdog5004: all I get is a blakc screen, I can press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x
[06:43] <slyfox> underdog5004: ctrl+alt-f1 also gives me a balck screen onyl
[06:43] <underdog5004> slyfox, whoa...no idea...although I don't think  F7 is a valid one...try F3
[06:43] <drarem> i have edgy on vmware - how do i set up my middle mouse button to scroll
[06:44] <drarem> i tried going to Settings->Periphereals->Mouse and it's already checked
[06:47] <underdog5004> slyfox, hmmm, I have no idea...sorry.  Also, I didn't see your last post...sorry
[06:48] <slyfox> underdog5004: I am doomed..
[06:48] <dmbkiwi> drarem: make sure you have the line:
[06:48] <dmbkiwi> drarem:     Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[06:48] <flaccid> why do you need tty1 ? just use tty2 or 3 or..
[06:49] <dmbkiwi> drarem: in your Section "InputDevice"
[06:49] <dmbkiwi> drarem: section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:50] <drarem> it's in there
[06:51] <dmbkiwi> drarem: You got     Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"?
[06:53] <drarem> it's just ps/2
[06:53] <jetsaredim> is it possible to change the dhcp client on my kubuntu edgy install from dhclient to dhcpcd??
[06:53] <dmbkiwi> drarem: change it, restart X, and see what happens?
[06:54] <drarem> ok
[06:57] <drarem> didn't work
[06:57] <drarem> wonder if it's vmware
[07:02] <the_hammer> ok im getting sick of this.....is anyone else here having any problems at all installing sun-java?
[07:02] <Jucato> the_hammer: what problem?
[07:02] <the_hammer> ive formated half a dozen times to run into the same problem
[07:02] <the_hammer> someone mentioned earlyer that adapt apperently has a bug
[07:02] <the_hammer> ok so i installed synaptic
[07:02] <the_hammer> and tried to get it that way
[07:03] <Jucato> have you tried plain old apt-get?
[07:03] <the_hammer> it goes really good for a short and then a box pops up and says ok in it but i hit enter and nothing happens and its stoped
[07:03] <Jucato> anyway, what problem did you encounter in Synaptic?
[07:03] <dmbkiwi> drarem: could be what's the hardware/driver it emulates?
[07:03] <underdog5004> you have to agree to the license agreement
[07:03] <Jucato> try pressing Tab to get to the OK "button" then press enter or space
[07:04] <the_hammer> ok
[07:04] <the_hammer> thank you so so very ver much
[07:04] <the_hammer> was driving me nuts
[07:04] <drarem> don't know, it's  the player version
[07:04] <the_hammer> another qustion
[07:04] <underdog5004> ask it
[07:05] <Jucato> the_hammer: most command line based dialogs use Tab to get around
[07:05] <underdog5004> yep
[07:05] <drarem> i think server has the hardware settings you can look at
[07:05] <the_hammer> earlyer on doing apt-cache search kernel image it use to have 2.6.20 rrc something rather now all thats available is its original version its as in kubuntu's
[07:06] <the_hammer> ok cool thanks ill keep that in mind
[07:06] <Jucato> you might have upgraded to feisty?
[07:06] <underdog5004> the_hammer, uh, 2.6.20 is the newest release, I wouldn't recommend upgrading to it...
[07:06] <Jucato> underdog5004: it's stable, but not easily available on edgy
[07:06] <the_hammer> 2.6.19 also dont show up ither
[07:07] <Jucato> the_hammer: Edgy only has 2.6.17
[07:07] <the_hammer> it was earlyer on edgy i had it till i formated
[07:07] <underdog5004> generic
[07:07] <Jucato> unless you upgraded to feisty
[07:07] <the_hammer> yes thats right BUT doing apt-cache search
[07:07] <Jucato> the_hammer: if you use feisty repositories in your sources.list and do an apt-cache search, it will show feisty versions of packages
[07:08] <the_hammer> ok how can i get a copy of that?
[07:08] <drarem> restarting the X-server  is just logging out and logging back in, right?
[07:08] <the_hammer> and will it take away my new kde?
[07:08] <underdog5004> the_hammer, you need to do this in a console: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:08] <Jucato> the_hammer: don't upgrade to feisty yet
[07:08] <the_hammer> ok...
[07:08] <underdog5004> that'll bring up your sources.list
[07:09] <the_hammer> i added a new command list under k system
[07:09] <the_hammer> its a root that allows me to enter and change anything in any folder
[07:10] <the_hammer> ok when would ya say i could upgrade
[07:10] <the_hammer> i take it i need to do something 1st?
[07:10] <Jucato> when feisty is released
[07:10] <underdog5004> when it gets out of alpha stage
[07:10] <the_hammer> ahh ok
[07:10] <the_hammer> so could be a while then
[07:10] <Jucato> 2 months
[07:10] <the_hammer> np im in no hurry
[07:10] <underdog5004> it'll be 7.06
[07:10] <underdog5004> lol
[07:10] <the_hammer> im just happy having my sun-java god it was driving me nuts
[07:11] <Jucato> if you have an absolute need for the 2.6.20 kernel, you could probably compile it yourself. otherwise, stick to what you have for now
[07:11] <the_hammer> i use to use mepis and what made me do a switch was the new kde in 610 kubuntu
[07:11] <the_hammer> what about a stable 19?
[07:11] <the_hammer> 2.6.19?
[07:11] <Jucato> ??
[07:12] <underdog5004> I'm using *.17
[07:12] <Jucato> 2.6.20 will be the one that Feisty will have by default (probably)
[07:12] <the_hammer> i guess what i did earlyer was magic somehow cuz i did get to 2.6.20 without touching sources and with edgy
[07:12] <ADiCT3D> Hey
[07:12] <ADiCT3D> Anyone here use cedega?
[07:12] <the_hammer> never heard of it
[07:13] <underdog5004> !cedega
[07:13] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:13] <Gretl> it is for gaming
[07:13] <ADiCT3D> I'm trying to install TBC (WoW Xpac) on Linux and it keeps crashing on the installer..
[07:14] <Gretl> you probably getting more infos on cedega forums
[07:14] <ADiCT3D> im not a subscriber - got off CVS repository
[07:15] <ADiCT3D> Can anyone help?
[07:17] <ADiCT3D> CaN AnY OnE HeLp Me WiTh ThiS ProBlEm?
[07:18] <the_hammer> ty again all take care
[07:19] <bubu> siemka
[07:21] <bubu> co tam u was
[07:21] <Jucato> !pl | bubu
[07:21] <ubotu> bubu: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:31] <flaccid> home time
[07:45] <surgy> i have a bit of a question for the gurus looking over my sholder.............. Do you guys know anything about the psp linux project?
[07:48] <jbruckman> anyone know how to get DVD playback to work with kaffeine?
[07:49] <surgy> jbruckman: know anything about restricted modules?
[07:49] <surgy> !restricted
[07:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:49] <jbruckman> surgy: thanks
[07:50] <surgy> jbruckman: np
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: which DVD specifically?
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: i had some issue because of DRM
[07:51] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: just a regular old DVD. I don't have css installed.
[07:53] <jbruckman> yay for dumb ass copyright laws.
[07:53] <jbruckman> works now. thanks everyone
[08:10] <pgdown> hello
[08:13] <karl> Can someone help me fix my Nvidia-card after my failed Beryl/Compiz attempt? :)
[08:16] <pgdown> karl: whats the matter?
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !beryl
[08:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe that channel can as well
[08:17] <karl> Well, when i try to run "nvidia-settings" all i get is : ERROR : NV-CONTROL extension not found on this display.
[08:17] <karl> And i can't enable 3d rendering at all
[08:29] <just-this-time> !fonts
[08:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:32] <just-this-time> where are fonts in kcontrol or system settings?
[08:33] <Sekaab> Good morning
[08:37] <Jucato> just-this-time: System Settings -> Appearance
[08:40] <ninjakttty> What file in /dev is the keyboard?
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> ninjakttty: what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <ninjakttty> I want to play around with the lcd on my keyboard, but the program needs to know the /dev entry and I tried googling it but I couldn't find it
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ninjakttty: usb or ps/2?
[08:44] <ninjakttty> actually it's a bluetooth keyboard
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i've never seen that before
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[08:44] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: February 08 2007, 01:44:55
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> ninjakttty: that means it's bed time for me. night. /me waves night to Jucato
[08:45] <Jucato> g'night Admiral_Chicago!!!
[08:45] <ninjakttty> ok night!
[08:45] <Jucato> sweet dreams :)
[08:45] <pgdown> so when's feisty coming out?
[08:45] <Xemanth> pgdown: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[08:46] <Jucato> !feisty
[08:46] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:46] <pgdown> thanks
[08:47] <makuseru> i have a question, im going to dual boot on a iMac (osx) with kubuntu, OSX has already been installed for quite sometime, when im installing kubuntu and chose to partition off some space for kubuntu, it wont delete my osx will it? and if it wont is the slide for the size refering to how big i want this new partition?
[08:48] <kde_alin> hi guys
[08:49] <kde_alin> how can i increase my root partition?
[08:49] <deathnote> hi i've put a vcd into my drive, it is playable with kaffeine.. but i check the mount point using mount -l , i couldn't find it
[08:49] <deathnote> why is that so
[08:49] <deathnote> so is it mounted or not
[08:50] <just-this-time> jucato googleearth reccommends I get vera font http://www.gnome.org/fonts http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/
[08:52] <Nuked> I want to compile the latest psi svn
[08:52] <Nuked> and that requires qt4
[08:52] <Nuked> I installed libqt4dev, but I get problems
[08:52] <makuseru> i have a question, im going to dual boot on a iMac (osx) with kubuntu, OSX has already been installed for quite sometime, when im installing kubuntu and chose to partition off some space for kubuntu, it wont delete my osx will it? and if it wont is the slide for the size refering to how big i want this new partition?
[08:53] <Jucato> just-this-time: I think Bitstream Vera fonts are installed by default already
[08:53] <Nuked> Jucato, any ideas?
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Nuked: that's because KDE4 SVN in broken half the time
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> night all.
[08:54] <Jucato> Nuked: sorry, no
[08:54] <Nuked> do I have to do this in order for it to work http://www.jasonandshawnda.com/wordpress/?p=23
[08:54] <kde_alin> how can I merge 2 ext3 partitions?
[08:54] <kde_alin> pls
[08:54] <Nuked> makuseru, I just installed Ubuntu on a Mac with a friend. The installer has some querks where if you used OSX to partition it then the ubuntu installer won't recognize the remaining partition, so you have to create it as a new partition with gparted, and then click back and it'll detect it
[08:54] <Nuked> I'll know more later, but it looks like there's a problem with the screen
[08:54] <deathnote> !vcd
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <deathnote> !mplayer
[08:54] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:55] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:55] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> makuseru: it wont delete your osx partition.. as long as you are doing the right thing...
[08:55] <Nuked> makuseru, I didnt myself.. i pasted that from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2102861
[08:55] <makuseru> so when it says create new partition its kubuntu
[08:55] <makuseru> and it sholdnt harm my osx partition
[08:56] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> i tried it with windows os.. and my os wasnt erased..
[08:56] <^LoRd_NiTrO^> just partition the free space using gparted
[08:56] <Nuked> anyone know how I can compile the psi svn?
[08:56] <deathnote> !video
[08:56] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:57] <ree_> ello
[08:58] <ree_> ello all
[08:58] <ree_> :-)
[08:58] <Nuked> hello
[08:59] <just-this-time> dunno jucato googleearth complained gave a link and Ifetched them Fonts
[08:59] <ree_> where are u Nuked?
[08:59] <Nuked> in #kubuntu
[09:00] <ree_> hehehe..itu aku tahu la...
[09:00] <ree_> kau kat mane skrg?
[09:01] <Nuked> nuk te kuptoj
[09:01] <Nuked> !offtopic
[09:01] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:01] <ree_> xpaham...
[09:03] <ree_> gtg
[09:03] <ree_> out.....
[09:03] <ree_> N
[09:06] <Nuked> can I build with qt4 on edgy?
[09:06] <Jucato> qt4 yes. kde4 no
[09:06] <Jucato> er..
[09:06] <Jucato> sort of...
[09:07] <Jucato> but yes you can develop Qt 4 apps
[09:07] <Nuked> I dont want anything to do with kde4
[09:07] <Nuked> I just want to build psi 0.11 dev
[09:07] <Jucato> what exact error are you getting?
[09:07] <Nuked> but I get this error Verifying Qt 4 build environment ... fail
[09:07] <Nuked> I installed libqt4-dev
[09:07] <Jucato> hm...
[09:08] <Jucato> qt4-dev-tools?
[09:08] <Jucato> you installed everything  on that web page?
[09:08] <Jucato> (the one you linked to earlier)
[09:09] <LarsJansen> hi all. I just plugged in me scanner and fired up kooka. kooka says I need SANE so used Adept and installed sane & sane-utils etc. do I need to restart my puter everytime I install software like this? (kooka still reckons I dont have sane installed so I'm about to reboot)
[09:10] <Nuked> msg Jucato The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[09:10] <Nuked>   libkonq4-dev libattr1-dev kdelibs4-dev libpcre3-dev liblualib50-dev
[09:10] <Nuked>   qt3-dev-tools libsasl2-dev libjasper-1.701-dev libpcrecpp0 liblua50-dev
[09:10] <Nuked>   lua50 libavahi-qt3-dev libacl1-dev libqt3-mt-dev hspell libxslt1-dev
[09:10] <Nuked>   kdebase-dev libqt3-headers libopenexr-dev kdesdk-scripts libcupsys2-dev
[09:10] <Nuked>   gettext-kde libarts1-dev
[09:10] <Nuked> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[09:10] <Nuked> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:10] <Nuked>   kdebase-dev* kdelibs4-dev* libarts1-dev* libavahi-qt3-dev* libkonq4-dev*
[09:10] <Jucato> !pastebin | Nuked
[09:10] <ubotu> Nuked: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:10] <Nuked>   libqt3-mt-dev* qt3-dev-tools*
[09:10] <Nuked> SORRY!!!!
[09:10] <Jucato> !caps
[09:10] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:10] <Nuked> it was to emphasize that I was sorry...
[09:10] <Jucato> that's like shouting you're sorry :D
[09:11] <Jucato> kinda makes it look even worse :P
[09:11] <Jucato> anyway... you can ignore that autoremove message... I guess
[09:11] <Nuked> are you sure about that?
[09:12] <Jucato> it just means that the metapackage, or the package that automatically installed those (as its dependencies) is no longer installed.
[09:12] <Jucato> you could remove them if you want, if you're sure that you don't use/need them
[09:12] <Nuked> would I need  kdebase-dev* kdelibs4-dev* libarts1-dev* libavahi-qt3-dev* libkonq4-dev*
[09:12] <Nuked>   libqt3-mt-dev* qt3-dev-tools* ?
[09:13] <Jucato> only if you're developing for kde3/qt3
[09:13] <Jucato> anyway, I'm not exactly sure how this would work, might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[09:14] <Nuked> will removing those things prevent me from compiling kde apps?
[09:14] <Jucato> yes, it would
[09:15] <user_> hi
[09:15] <just-this-time> !ssh
[09:15] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:15] <user_> ras aketeb
[09:16] <kraut> moin
[09:16] <user_> me giorgi mqvia
[09:16] <Jucato> user_: english only please
[09:18] <deathnote> hi i've an ISO file (copied from a dvd movie), what can i play it with in kubuntu without burning it into disc?
[09:20] <Nuked> deathnote, vlc
[09:20] <geniusvicks> how do I make an application start as soon as the desktop is loaded?
[09:21] <deathnote> u mean it will play the iso like a dvd? the kaffeine can play but couldn't click on the menus to get sub titles
[09:21] <geniusvicks> how do I make an application start as soon as the desktop is loaded?
[09:22] <Jucato> !autostart
[09:22] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:23] <deathnote> !iso
[09:23] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[09:23] <geniusvicks> jucato how do i link it to that ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[09:24] <Jucato> geniusvicks: go to the ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder (type that in Konqueror file manager), then right-click -> Create New -> Link to Application
[09:24] <parkerw207> hiya everyone
[09:25] <parkerw207> could someone give me some help with my wifi ? i read all the howtos but they didnt help
[09:25] <geniusvicks> Jucato thanks
[09:25] <surgy> where is the components directory for firefox by defualt?
[09:26] <surgy> i found it
[09:27] <parkerw207> anyone?
[09:30] <parkerw207> anyone :S
[09:31] <underdog5004> I'm back
[09:31] <underdog5004> parkerw207, what's up?
[09:32] <underdog5004> parkerw207, ok, what chipset are you using? Model Number of chip would be good...
[09:33] <parkerw207> ok then its a realtek
[09:33] <parkerw207> rt8187
[09:33] <parkerw207> i can scan for networks
[09:33] <parkerw207> and i find mine
[09:33] <parkerw207> i click on it
[09:33] <parkerw207> put in the passcode and try to connect and everytime i get "connection failed "
[09:34] <parkerw207> so i made my router open access and i still got "connection failed"
[09:34] <underdog5004> parkerw207, are you using the Wireless Assistant?
[09:35] <parkerw207> yeah
[09:35] <parkerw207> but i got told that has a bug with dchp , so i updated using apt and it still dont work
[09:36] <parkerw207> i hate having to use wire lol beats the point of having a laptop!
[09:37] <parkerw207> i read that the knetworkmanager is better , but that dont even pick up my wifi card!
[09:38] <parkerw207> so any help would be appreiciated
[09:41] <parkerw207> anyone?
[09:43] <parkerw207> anyone ? lol
[09:44] <mauro> !wifi
[09:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:44] <parkerw207> i know i have read those and they dont help
[09:44] <mauro> sorry, since i dotn have a wifi card i cannot help you
[09:44] <mauro> try http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:45] <parkerw207> yeah i will do
[09:45] <mauro> ok
[09:46] <leileilol> i recently installed a sata drive. how can i make it work and show up in my current installation :S
[09:47] <just-this-time> help kdelibs4c2a and kwin reported as brokem packages needed by aquamarine (beryl)
[09:48] <just-this-time> how do I force install to correct these broken packages?
[09:48] <deathnote> !iso
[09:48] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[09:57] <just-this-time> !md5
[09:57] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:02] <just-this-time> where is in menus  a basic message digest (md5 sum) calculator
[10:07] <just-this-time> !paste
[10:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:07] <fildo> anyone here got information for psybnc
[10:07] <fildo> ?
[10:07] <mauro> just-this-time: youre gonna have to use the console
[10:07] <mauro> md5sum <file?
[10:07] <mauro> md5sum <file>
[10:09] <just-this-time> fildo yes using frequently
[10:10] <just-this-time> ty
[10:13] <phiqtion> !beryl
[10:13] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:13] <parkerw207> guys i mamanged to get my wifi card connected to my router but it doesnt seem to be connecting to the net
[10:14] <parkerw207> and now i can edit connections in system settings
[10:14] <parkerw207> cant*
[10:15] <earl_> hey guys. is there any way to automate kmail? like, to have it check mail say every hour, and notify me if there is a message?
[10:15] <Lynoure> earl_: I do not you kmail, but I'd be surprised if it did not have a poll interval setting
[10:15] <Jucato> earl_: yes.
[10:16] <parkerw207> does anyone know why when i go into setting and change my network setting it takes so ling to apply ?
[10:16] <parkerw207> it just sits there saying saving network settings ?
[10:16] <Jucato> earl_: interval checking: Settings -> Configure KMail -> Accounts -> select and account -> Modify
[10:17] <Jucato> earl_: notifications: Settings -> Configure Notifications
[10:17] <earl_> okay, once in enable interval checking, i need to leave kontact open or what?
[10:17] <Jucato> yes
[10:18] <Jucato> earl_: you can run it minimized in the system tray. enable KMail' system tray icon
[10:18] <earl_> excellent. thanks
[10:19] <parkerw207> hey
[10:19] <parkerw207> anyone ?
[10:20] <JackPhil> does aptitude support regxp?
[10:21] <JackPhil> such as aptitude remove xyz*
[10:22] <Jucato> not that I'm aware of
[10:23] <Nuked> Jucato, GOOD CALL
[10:23] <chavo> you can use * with apt-get remove
[10:23] <Nuked> *good call
[10:23] <earl_> Jucato: what would you say is a reasonable interval? 15 min?
[10:23] <Jucato> Nuked: about? O.o
[10:23] <Jucato> earl_: I set mine to 45 :)
[10:23] <Nuked> its compiling
[10:23] <chavo> but probably not a good idea
[10:23] <Jucato> Nuked: ah good
[10:23] <earl_> the default is 1 min... which i think is nuts, waste of bandwidth
[10:24] <Nuked> is there a possibility this can be wikied or stored somewhere so that it can benefit someone else?
[10:24] <Jucato> hm.. not sure
[10:26] <deathnote> hi..i mounted a ISO file (its a dvd movie) and try to play with kaffine..under the option i put the path of where i mount my ISO on..it opens perfectly..however, when i try to change the path to my 2nd disc, it just doesn't refresh and keeps playing the old one..any idea why?
[10:26] <underdog5004> parkerw207, lol, sorry, I got distracted by friends and southpark...both are gone. What can I help you with again?
[10:26] <parkerw207> oo
[10:27] <parkerw207> welll basically
[10:27] <parkerw207> i managed to get connected by typing my wep code in this format
[10:27] <Nuked> Jucato, cheers because its 4:30 am here
[10:27] <parkerw207> xxxx-xxxx-xx
[10:27] <parkerw207> but no internet
[10:27] <underdog5004> hmmm, with the dashes?
[10:27] <parkerw207> yeah
[10:27] <Jucato> Nuked: EST eh?
[10:27] <Nuked> yeah
[10:27] <underdog5004> parkerw207, in a console, can you ping www.google.com?
[10:27] <parkerw207> how do i do that ?
[10:27] <parkerw207> sorry i am totall noob
[10:28] <underdog5004> open up a konsole
[10:28] <underdog5004> then type ping www.google.com
[10:28] <parkerw207> yep
[10:28] <Nuked> Jucato, how'd you know?
[10:28] <Nuked> well goodnight... and you will have to tell me how to do that another time
[10:28] <Nuked> cheers
[10:28] <Jucato> night Nuked
[10:29] <parkerw207> one sec it wont connect to wireless now
[10:29] <parkerw207> wait how am i on the net :S
[10:29] <underdog5004> I love it...Wireless assistant sucks...
[10:29] <parkerw207> how can i be on irc ??
[10:29] <parkerw207> lol
[10:29] <underdog5004> parkerw207, weird...yeah
[10:29] <parkerw207> very
[10:29] <underdog5004> so, can you ping google?
[10:30] <earl_> thanks for your help jucato.
[10:30] <parkerw207> says , uknown host
[10:30] <underdog5004> hmmm, so you can do irc but not anything else?
[10:30] <parkerw207> ping : unknown host www.google.com
[10:30] <parkerw207> oo i will try gaim
[10:30] <underdog5004> weird...
[10:30] <Jucato> parkerw207: check your DNS in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:30] <underdog5004> try ping irc.ubuntu.com
[10:30] <Jucato> try changing it
[10:30] <Jucato> underdog5004: usually this happens from bad/fscky NDS...
[10:31] <Jucato> DNS*
[10:31] <underdog5004> Jucato, ah
[10:31] <Jucato> you can IRC and/or IM, even torrents, but not browse
[10:31] <underdog5004> lol, I kinda suxxor at wireless
[10:31] <parkerw207> how do i change the dns :S
[10:31] <Jucato> happens on wired connections too
[10:31] <parkerw207> this is crazy
[10:31] <underdog5004> yep
[10:32] <Jucato> tried IM? (kopete or gaim)
[10:32] <underdog5004> do what Jucato says...
[10:32] <parkerw207> yeah gaim is working
[10:32] <underdog5004> he's more knowledgable
[10:32] <Jucato> O.o
[10:32] <weiteck> is it normal for adept to randomly kill itself sometimes? :x
[10:32] <parkerw207> sorry what did you say jucato?
[10:32] <underdog5004> weiteck, like when you start it up?
[10:32] <Jucato> parkerw207: ok do this in Konsole. "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup" to back up the original one
[10:32] <weiteck> underdog5004, when i initiate a search
[10:32] <pgdown> is there a collection of network tools like there is gnome/ubuntu?
[10:33] <underdog5004> weiteck, weird...
[10:33] <weiteck> it's just done it a few times the past couple of days, no biggie
[10:33] <underdog5004> !knetworkmonitor
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmonitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <underdog5004> !k-network-monitor
[10:33] <Jucato> parkerw207: call me when you have backed it up
[10:33] <parkerw207> well i cant ping anything
[10:33] <parkerw207> just sits there for ages
[10:34] <parkerw207> not doing a thing
[10:34] <underdog5004> parkerw207: ok do this in Konsole. "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup" to back up the original one
[10:34] <Jucato> parkerw207: do you already have your prompt back?
[10:34] <parkerw207> no i dont
[10:34] <Jucato> parkerw207: er.. don't enter the " "
[10:34] <parkerw207> it just sits thee
[10:35] <Jucato> parkerw207: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup
[10:35] <Jucato> parkerw207: copy and paste that
[10:35] <parkerw207> how do i know it it backedup or not ?
[10:35] <Jucato> parkerw207: cat /etc/resolve.conf.backup
[10:35] <Jucato> cat command displays the contents of a file
[10:36] <parkerw207> no such file or directory
[10:36] <parkerw207> so it says
[10:36] <Jucato> hm...
[10:36] <Jucato> cd /etc
[10:36] <Jucato> parkerw207: cd /etc
[10:36] <parkerw207> ok i am on that
[10:36] <Jucato> parkerw207: ls resolv*
[10:37] <Jucato> how many files show up?
[10:37] <parkerw207> ermm i dont know
[10:37] <parkerw207> just swtiched dirctory right ?
[10:37] <Jucato> huh?
[10:37] <parkerw207> its says
[10:37] <Jucato> parkerw207: ls resolv*
[10:37] <Jucato> that command ^^
[10:37] <parkerw207> resolv.conf
[10:38] <parkerw207> resolv.conf.backup
[10:38] <Jucato> so there's a resolve.conf.backup file
[10:38] <parkerw207> yep
[10:38] <Jucato> parkerw207: cat resolv.conf.backup
[10:38] <parkerw207> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[10:39] <Jucato> ok
[10:39] <Jucato> parkerw207: just one line?
[10:39] <parkerw207> yep
[10:39] <Mena> JUCATO, hi is there a distro called PClinux
[10:39] <Jucato> Mena: PCLinuxOS
[10:40] <Jucato> parkerw207: cat resolv.conf
[10:40] <Mena> JUCATO,yes
[10:40] <Jucato> parkerw207: check how many lines
[10:40] <parkerw207> says same thing
[10:40] <Mena> JUCATO,what is it it based on kde
[10:40] <Mena> JUCATO,or what
[10:40] <parkerw207> i just says nameserver 192.168.0.1
[10:41] <parkerw207> that what i i use to get onto my router
[10:41] <Jucato> Mena: it uses KDE. it's based on RPM (Mandriva)
[10:41] <parkerw207> that ip address
[10:41] <Jucato> parkerw207: hm... ok let's try something
[10:41] <parkerw207> ok then
[10:41] <Jucato> parkerw207: sudo nano resolv.conf
[10:41] <Jucato> nano is a command line text editor
[10:42] <parkerw207> ooooooo
[10:42] <parkerw207> ok
[10:42] <Mena> jucato, so do you think  normal user cant use it bec its based on rpm
[10:42] <parkerw207> well it says
[10:42] <parkerw207> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[10:42] <Jucato> Mena: it's actually a good distro
[10:42] <parkerw207> then at the bottom , read 1 ling
[10:42] <parkerw207> and then the menu
[10:42] <Mena> jucato, ok
[10:42] <Jucato> parkerw207: ok. now put a # at the beginning of that line
[10:43] <parkerw207> ok ?
[10:43] <parkerw207> done
[10:43] <Jucato> parkerw207: now, put these two lines beneath that one line
[10:43] <parkerw207> ok then
[10:43] <Jucato> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[10:43] <Jucato> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[10:44] <Jucato> parkerw207: so you should have 3 lines now, the first one should begin with #
[10:44] <parkerw207> ok then
[10:44] <parkerw207> done that
[10:44] <Jucato> parkerw207: press Ctrl+O to Write Out (save)
[10:44] <parkerw207> ok
[10:44] <Jucato> parkerw207: the press Ctrl+X to eXit
[10:44] <parkerw207> then wat file name ?
[10:44] <Jucato> oh
[10:44] <Jucato> just press enter
[10:45] <parkerw207> ok
[10:45] <Jucato> Ctrl+O then press Enter. then Ctrl+X
[10:45] <Jucato> you're back the command line?
[10:45] <parkerw207> yep
[10:45] <Jucato> parkerw207: ping www.google.com
[10:45] <Jucato> try that again
[10:45] <parkerw207> wat go back to the text editor ?
[10:45] <Jucato> no
[10:45] <Mena> jucato, Do you know where can i find it
[10:45] <Jucato> try to ping google
[10:46] <parkerw207> oo ok
[10:46] <parkerw207> ok it working
[10:46] <Jucato> Mena: http://www.pclinuxos.com/news.php
[10:46] <parkerw207> comign up with loads of
[10:46] <parkerw207> stuff
[10:46] <Mena> jucato, ok thanks
[10:46] <Jucato> parkerw207: ok that means it's working now. press Ctrl+C to stop pinging
[10:46] <parkerw207> 64 bits fom ....#
[10:46] <Jucato> parkerw207: now check if you can browse
[10:47] <parkerw207> yay thanks so much !
[10:47] <Jucato> parkerw207: now if you want to return to your original nameserver (DNS), this is what you do:
[10:47] <Jucato> parkerw207: sudo /etc/resolv.conf
[10:47] <parkerw207> ok
[10:48] <parkerw207> so another thing
[10:48] <Jucato> parkerw207: then put a # at the 2 lines you added, and remove the one from the original line
[10:48] <Jucato> parkerw207: Ctrl+O, press Enter, then Ctrl+X
[10:48] <Jucato> that's how you go back to the original
[10:48] <parkerw207> will this now connect everytime i log in ?
[10:48] <parkerw207> thanks , is this dns good then , then one i am on ?
[10:48] <Mena> jucato, So if i use i will not have a problems in installing files dowenload etc ...right
[10:48] <Jucato> hm... that part I'm not sure...
[10:48] <Jucato> Mena: what do you mean
[10:48] <parkerw207> ooo so i might have to do this everytime?
[10:49] <Mena> jucato,i mean i will have a problems as a normal no prof user
[10:49] <Jucato> parkerw207: usually, the DNS that your ISP gives is good enough. sometimes it just goes crazy.
[10:49] <parkerw207> ooo i see
[10:49] <Jucato> parkerw207: you have to do this when it goes crazy
[10:49] <Mena> jucato,sorry for aasking you so much while you are busy
[10:49] <parkerw207> oo i see , so if i log off , all this will be lost ?
[10:49] <parkerw207> and i wont get on ?
[10:49] <Jucato> Mena: I think you'll be ok. but don't expect it to be exactly like Kubuntu
[10:49] <Jucato> parkerw207: if you reboot, yet
[10:49] <Jucato> yes
[10:49] <Mena> jucato,ok
[10:50] <parkerw207> so what am i meant to do to stop it from loosing it when i boot ?
[10:50] <parkerw207> i dont wanna have to keep doing that
[10:50] <Jucato> Mena: for example, in PCLinuxOS, you have a separate root user, with a separate password from your normal user
[10:50] <Jucato> parkerw207: I would love to know that myself :D
[10:50] <parkerw207> lol
[10:50] <Mena> jucato,ok
[10:51] <parkerw207> right ok can you run through what i did a min ago step by step so i can write it in a text doument and save it ?
[10:52] <Jucato> parkerw207: hm... but since you already backed up your original resolv.conf I'll skip that part and make it easier
[10:52] <Jucato> parkerw207: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[10:52] <Jucato> parkerw207: (btw, take note of blank spaces in between)
[10:52] <parkerw207> yeah i am
[10:52] <Jucato> parkerw207: put a # at the beginning of the line you want to disable
[10:53] <Jucato> parkerw207: Ctrl+O and press Enter to WriteOut (Save), Ctrl+X to exit
[10:53] <Jucato> parkerw207: so basically, if you want to disable the 2 nameservers I gave and enable the original 1, just put a # in the 2 lines and remove the # from the original line.
[10:53] <parkerw207> oo i see , will hose servers you gave me still be there ?
[10:53] <parkerw207> when i go ontot that
[10:54] <parkerw207> or i do i have to keep re-entering them
[10:54] <ForgeAus> I heard somewhere that PCLinuxOS is a fork of Mandriva?
[10:54] <Jucato> oh krap.. yeah... resolv.conf will be reset everytime you reboot
[10:54] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it is. in a way
[10:54] <Jucato> parkerw207: you have to save those 2 lines I gave.... sorry
[10:55] <ForgeAus> I like Mandriva but the 3D acceleration sux in VMware
[10:55] <parkerw207> ooo , you mean the dn servers ?
[10:55] <parkerw207> i have to keep rewritting them?
[10:55] <Jucato> parkerw207: yes. but don't worry, most of the time, your original DNS will be working
[10:55] <parkerw207> oo ok then , what them servers ?
[10:55] <ForgeAus> actually I'd reather Lycoris still be its own distro instead of the amalgamated mandriva one...
[10:55] <ForgeAus> (mandriva = Mandrake + connectiva + Lycoris)
[10:56] <ForgeAus> dunno much about pre-mandriva connectiva tho
[10:56] <ForgeAus> Lycoris was a Redmond Linux, very Windows-like
[10:57] <ForgeAus> but they're all RPM distro's Kubuntu is a Debian based one...
[10:57] <Jucato> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[10:57] <Jucato> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[10:57] <ForgeAus> much easier package management and dependancy stuff it seems
[10:57] <Jucato> parkerw207: ^^^
[10:58] <parkerw207> ooo that wierd
[10:58] <parkerw207> why is the dns the same as the ip address i write to get onto the page to configure my wifi router ?
[10:58] <Jucato> parkerw207: I dunno... they're usually not the same I think
[10:59] <parkerw207> ooo crap
[10:59] <Jucato> parkerw207: usually, you have 2 nameservers... and DNS is not the IP that your ISP gives
[10:59] <parkerw207> so is it possible i did this myseld ?
[10:59] <Jucato> yes
[10:59] <Mena> ForgeAus, Is there a program to open flsh files
[11:00] <Mena> flash
[11:00] <parkerw207> cos i put that ip address in somehwere when i was configuring to connect to my rouer
[11:00] <ForgeAus> yes
[11:00] <Jucato> parkerw207: anyway, it will go back to the original DNS if you reboot
[11:00] <ForgeAus> macromedia flash
[11:00] <ForgeAus> is one
[11:00] <parkerw207> how do i change the dns permananly ?
[11:00] <Jucato> parkerw207: DNS is configure automatically at boot afaik
[11:00] <ForgeAus> your web browser often views .swf embedded
[11:00] <ForgeAus> but theres also sfv players too
[11:00] <parkerw207> oo , can i change that ?
[11:00] <ForgeAus> (ie vlc does it)
[11:00] <Jucato> parkerw207: not sure
[11:01] <parkerw207> oo
[11:01] <ForgeAus> wait sfv or flv? whichever flash calls its video
[11:01] <parkerw207> hmmm , this is far to wierd
[11:02] <Mena> ForgeAus, its swf and i cant play it form my desktop
[11:02] <parkerw207> is there somewhere i could go to get someone to see if you can edit it permantley?
[11:02] <Diamond> Hi
[11:02] <Mena> hi
[11:02] <ForgeAus> Mena try dragginga nd dropping into your web browser
[11:02] <Mena> ForgeAus, ok
[11:02] <Diamond> how do i install .rpm files in kubuntu
[11:02] <Diamond> ?
[11:02] <ForgeAus> if you have the flash plugin it probably will play
[11:03] <Jucato> !rpm | Diamond
[11:03] <ubotu> Diamond: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:03] <ForgeAus> Diamond its better if you can avoid doing that
[11:03] <ForgeAus> if the same package is available as a .deb thats the best option
[11:03] <Jucato> Diamond: try looking for the package in the repositories first. if you can't find it, look for a .deb package
[11:03] <parkerw207> oo i can see the dns in the network settings for kubuntu
[11:04] <ForgeAus> if its not source files you might get away with just opening the .rpm in Ark and copying them manually... (might require root priveleges to do so)
[11:04] <Diamond> ok whats the package for kubuntu with apt-get
[11:04] <Diamond> anyone knows?
[11:04] <Jucato> parkerw207: it only reads the one in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:04] <Jucato> Diamond: what are you trying to install?
[11:04] <ForgeAus> apt-get uses .deb packages mostly
[11:04] <parkerw207> oo i see
[11:04] <ForgeAus> in Kubuntu anyhow
[11:04] <parkerw207> but it dont see the one with # infront of it ?
[11:04] <ForgeAus> (I think there may also an rpm version of apt-get)
[11:04] <Diamond> flash player
[11:04] <Jucato> Diamond: flashplugin-nonfree
[11:05] <Jucato> Diamond: that's the package name, you have to enable multiverse first
[11:05] <Jucato> !flash9 | Diamond
[11:05] <ubotu> Diamond: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:05] <zorglu_> q. i look for an apps to record stuff from my microphone, any suggestion ?
[11:05] <Jucato> !flash | Diamond
[11:05] <ubotu> Diamond: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:05] <Jucato> zorglu_: krec?
[11:05] <zorglu_> ok trying thanks
[11:06] <Jucato> I think audacity can too
[11:07] <parkerw207> how do install a login them ?
[11:07] <Jucato> !changethemes | parkerw207
[11:07] <ubotu> parkerw207: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[11:07] <parkerw207> thank you :)
[11:09] <parkerw207> how do i get on kcontrol ?
[11:09] <parkerw207> ooo i got it sorry
[11:10] <Jucato> no need to be sorry
[11:11] <parkerw207> how do i get kdmtheme ?
[11:11] <parkerw207> so that i can put custom login screen ?
[11:11] <Jucato> parkerw207: http://kde-look.org
[11:11] <Jucato> then follow the guide I gave you in #kubuntu
[11:11] <parkerw207> oo i did
[11:11] <Jucato> (actually all the instructions are there.... even the link where to get KDM themes)
[11:11] <parkerw207> its a good guide
[11:11] <parkerw207> but it says i have to download kdmtheme
[11:12] <Jucato> bah sorry wrong channel lol
[11:12] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[11:12] <Jucato> or use Adept
[11:12] <parkerw207> thankyou
[11:12] <parkerw207> says couldnt find package :S
[11:13] <Jucato> make sure you have "universe" enabled
[11:13] <Jucato> !universe | parkerw207
[11:13] <ubotu> parkerw207: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:14] <fritsch> parkerw207: if you additionally install kde-kdm-themes perhaps the theme you want to install is already included
[11:14] <parkerw207> how do i get universe enabled ?
[11:14] <Jucato> fritsch: kdmtheme is an app that lets you graphically choose which KDM theme to use
[11:15] <parkerw207> yeah i know
[11:15] <parkerw207> how do i get kde-kdm-themes?
[11:15] <Jucato> parkerw207: the guide to enable universe is there ^^^^
[11:15] <parkerw207> ooo i enabled it lol
[11:17] <parkerw207> i enabled it but it still says couldnt find package:S
[11:17] <fritsch> Jucato: yes, i know, but i think he want to have some themes he can choose from, right?
[11:18] <fritsch> Jucato: and having installed a debian file is "easier" and more system friendly then fetching some tarballs
[11:18] <Jucato> parkerw207: did you click on Fetch Updates or run sudo apt-get update after you enabled?
[11:18] <parkerw207> i did yeah
[11:18] <parkerw207> i am probably doing somthing wrong
[11:18] <Jucato> fritsch: without kdmtheme, he'll have to manually browse through each and every theme folder
[11:19] <fritsch> Jucato: yes ;-) i think we are talking into another direction ... i just said "if he wants additionally"
[11:21] <parkerw207> i am confused lol
[11:21] <parkerw207> can i download this manualy ?
[11:21] <Jucato> !pastebin | parkerw207
[11:21] <ubotu> parkerw207: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <Jucato> parkerw207: use that to show the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:22] <parkerw207> sorry i am totall newbie but i am meant to be quick learner
[11:23] <parkerw207> ok wierd
[11:23] <parkerw207> its saying my root password is incorrect
[11:23] <parkerw207> is thier a defualt ?
[11:23] <Jucato> you don't need to be root. just open the file in Kate and copy paste to the pastebin webpage
[11:24] <JohnFlux> !root
[11:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:24] <bxnp_> stdin: are you here
[11:24] <parkerw207> oo cos it said , permission denie
[11:24] <parkerw207> denied
[11:24] <Jucato> parkerw207: or, press Alt+F2, enter: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:24] <Jucato> parkerw207: the root password is your (first user created) own password
[11:25] <parkerw207> yeah i thought
[11:25] <parkerw207> nothing happened when i did tha t:S
[11:25] <Jucato> parkerw207: what command were you trying to run?
[11:25] <parkerw207> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:26] <Jucato> try it again
[11:26] <Jucato> a box will popup asking for your password
[11:26] <parkerw207> ok then
[11:26] <stdin> bxnp_: you're lucky, just got here :)
[11:26] <parkerw207> nope no pop up box
[11:26] <bxnp_> cool could you help me out with editing a little piece
[11:27] <stdin> bxnp_: sure
[11:27] <Jucato> parkerw207: I need to go in a while, so we'll have to do this pretty quick...
[11:27] <bxnp_> what is the url off the pastbin
[11:27] <parkerw207> ok sorry
[11:27] <parkerw207> i dont mean to be slow
[11:27] <Jucato> parkerw207: go to the command line again (Konsole), and enter this command: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <stdin> bxnp_: use http://pastebin.ca
[11:27] <Jucato> parkerw207: no problem. I just need to do something else
[11:28] <parkerw207> ok done
[11:28] <Jucato> parkerw207: are you on edgy or on dapper?
[11:28] <parkerw207> edgy i think
[11:28] <Jucato> Edgy = Kubuntu 6.10, Dapper = 6.06
[11:28] <parkerw207> 6.10
[11:29] <parkerw207> newest one
[11:29] <Jucato> parkerw207: ok, now look for a line that goes something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe" check if it's disabled (it has a # at the beginning of the line)
[11:29] <Jucato> parkerw207: xx = your country or server, like us. or uk. or au., etc
[11:30] <parkerw207> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <parkerw207> oops
[11:30] <parkerw207> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[11:30] <parkerw207> that one ?
[11:30] <Jucato> parkerw207: no. look for "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[11:30] <parkerw207> nope i dont see it
[11:31] <bxnp_> oke stdin let me write the little peace
[11:31] <stdin> bxnp_: ok
[11:31] <parkerw207> oo wait
[11:31] <parkerw207> i found it
[11:32] <parkerw207> # deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[11:33] <stdin> parkerw207: is there one with "deb" not "deb-src" at the beginning of the line ?
[11:33] <parkerw207> yes
[11:33] <parkerw207> its just above
[11:33] <stdin> parkerw207: and does it have a "#" at the beginning too?
[11:33] <parkerw207> yes
[11:33] <parkerw207> both do
[11:33] <parkerw207> that mean , dont use right ?
[11:33] <parkerw207> so i delete that sign i guess ?
[11:34] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, you just need to remove the "#" from it, that will enable them
[11:34] <parkerw207> both of them ? i do it to both ?
[11:34] <stdin> parkerw207: you don't need to, you only one you need is the "deb" one, but it won't do any harm removing the other one too
[11:35] <parkerw207> oo ok then
[11:35] <parkerw207> ermm it wont let me right
[11:35] <parkerw207> says error writting , permission denied
[11:36] <stdin> parkerw207: did you use "nano" or "sudo nano" ?
[11:36] <parkerw207> i will check
[11:37] <parkerw207> ok done
[11:37] <parkerw207> sorry my fualt
[11:37] <stdin> parkerw207: ok, once you have changed it, then saved it, you have to reload the package list, you do this by typing "sudo apt-get update"
[11:38] <parkerw207> ok done
[11:39] <stdin> parkerw207: that's it, you'll now be able to use the universe repository
[11:39] <parkerw207> ok so how do i get the kdetheme thingy ?
[11:39] <parkerw207> sorry to sound dumb  , i aint i am just new to this
[11:39] <parkerw207> like i have only been using linux for a couple of days
[11:39] <bxnp_> stdin: http://www.pastebin.ca/345233
[11:39] <stdin> parkerw207: you can install it in adept, or from konsole, which ever you prefer
[11:40] <parkerw207> oo i see
[11:40] <chuen> Hi. Anyone know if there's a way of saving Kmix settings?
[11:40] <just-this-time> guys I am tired . takes me days to install a complete, have-it-all system, and I love installing. but I prefer imaging  with acronis,GHOSTand configuring
[11:41] <just-this-time> parkerw207: welcome and stay
[11:42] <stdin> bxnp_: http://www.pastebin.ca/345236
[11:42] <chuen> Each time I login I have to alter the settings so that (for example) Skype will work.
[11:42] <bxnp_> oke thanks
[11:42] <parkerw207> oo i am kde control centre and it has a theme manager in it
[11:42] <parkerw207> is this the wrong one htough ?
[11:43] <DjDarkman> hy ,vmware player can`t configure itself what should i do with it?
[11:43] <DjDarkman> invoke-rc.d: initscript vmware-player, action "start" failed.
[11:43] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing vmware-player (--configure):
[11:43] <DjDarkman>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:43] <DjDarkman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:43] <DjDarkman>  vmware-player
[11:44] <DjDarkman> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:44] <bxnp_> thanks stdin :)
[11:44] <stdin> bxnp_: no problem :)
[11:46] <parkerw207> how do install mp3 codecs ?
[11:47] <stdin> parkerw207: you need to enable another repository for that
[11:48] <ubuntu> Just about to partition the drives...... any particular recommendations on a 300GB (previous partitions on gentoo / 14gb swap 1/2 gb /home the rest
[11:48] <stdin> parkerw207: just do the same as before, except add the word "multiverse" to the end of the line that you removed the "#" from
[11:49] <ubuntu> nope? ah sod it .. i'll just erase the disk
[11:50] <parkerw207> what on ?
[11:50] <ubuntu> on my 320GB sda hard drive..... just about to install kUbuntu
[11:50] <stdin> parkerw207: you remember where you removed the "#" from the universe repository ?
[11:50] <ubuntu> had gentoo on there previously but i'm ready to make the move
[11:50] <parkerw207> how do i get on that file again
[11:50] <parkerw207> sorry
[11:50] <parkerw207> i will start reording everything lo
[11:51] <parkerw207> yes i remember
[11:51] <parkerw207> but how do edit it again , i know its sudo nano then something
[11:52] <stdin> parkerw207: in konsole just type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" then find the line "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe" and just add "multiverse" to the end of the line
[11:52] <stdin> parkerw207: so it will look like "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse"
[11:53] <parkerw207> ok done
[11:54] <parkerw207> now what ?
[11:54] <stdin> parkerw207: did you do "sudo apt-get update" yet?
[11:55] <parkerw207> its doing that its self
[11:55] <parkerw207> gui
[11:55] <parkerw207> but , its stuck at 51% lol
[11:55] <parkerw207> updating now
[11:56] <parkerw207> it has alot to get
[11:56] <parkerw207> ok done
[11:56] <stdin> parkerw207: ok, now you'll just need to install "libxine-extracodecs", then you can play mp3s
[11:56] <parkerw207> so for that i type
[11:56] <parkerw207> sudo apt-install then the codec name ?
[11:57] <stdin> parkerw207: you can do it in adept, or "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[11:57] <parkerw207> i think i like console better
[11:58] <parkerw207> ok its ding it now
[11:58] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, it's quicker when you know what you want to install :)
[11:58] <parkerw207> :)
[11:58] <parkerw207> i really like linux :)
[11:58] <stdin> welcome to the club :P
[11:58] <parkerw207> so much bette than windows
[11:58] <parkerw207> ok its back to the command promt
[11:58] <parkerw207> is it all installed now ?
[11:58] <stdin> yeah, it all done :)
[12:01] <nodesert> can i boot windows and linux at the same time using a free software
[12:01] <parkerw207> yeah you can use grub
[12:01] <parkerw207> its a dual booter
[12:01] <parkerw207> most distro's use it
[12:02] <parkerw207> you can shrink your windows partition and add linux onto the same hard drive
[12:02] <parkerw207> and it will allow you to select which os you want
[12:02] <nodesert> now i already have kubuntu and xp
[12:02] <parkerw207> see stdin :P i'm learning
[12:02] <parkerw207> ok , can you not boot xp?
[12:03] <nodesert> i just want to run it together at the same time
[12:03] <parkerw207> ooo i dont know about that
[12:03] <parkerw207> i wouldnt think so
[12:03] <parkerw207> but you could use a windows emulator ?
[12:04] <parkerw207> like wine
[12:04] <nodesert> i already use wine
[12:04] <parkerw207> oo i see
[12:04] <parkerw207> so why do you want to run both at same time
[12:04] <nodesert> but i want to use visual studio 2005
[12:04] <bxnp_> stdin: http://www.postproductie.nl its live
[12:04] <nodesert> cuz i ve some homework to do
[12:04] <parkerw207> ooo ok i see
[12:04] <bxnp_> And thanks again editor :)
[12:04] <parkerw207> i though you could use mono ?
[12:04] <nodesert> but also i want to use linux
[12:05] <parkerw207> oo wait , vis studio is differnt from vb isnt it?
[12:05] <stdin> nodesert: you have a couple of options. you want to use only free software as in "no cost" or "open source" ?
[12:06] <stdin> bxnp_: no problem :) look good
[12:06] <cypher_666> 0_0 hello 0_0
[12:06] <parkerw207> omg what an idiot
[12:06] <parkerw207> myself i mean
[12:07] <cypher_666> k
[12:07] <parkerw207> i connected my external hard drive to my pc
[12:07] <parkerw207> then wonderd why it wasnt showing up
[12:07] <cypher_666> lol i got one 2
[12:07] <parkerw207> then realised i hadnt switched it on!
[12:07] <cypher_666> LOL
[12:07] <parkerw207> way too much coffee for me i think haha
[12:07] <cypher_666> rofl
[12:07] <cypher_666> ( :
[12:08] <nagyv> !adeptloc
[12:08] <nagyv> !adeptlock
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptloc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptlock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <nagyv> !adept
[12:08] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:08] <Jucato> !adeptfix | nagyv
[12:08] <ubotu> nagyv: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:08] <nagyv> Jucato: :)
[12:09] <parkerw207> hehe coffee good for the soul :)
[12:09] <ouuchone> hi
[12:09] <ouuchone> XD
[12:10] <ouuchone> algun espaol?
[12:11] <ouuchone> o catal
[12:11] <stdin> !es
[12:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:11] <ouuchone> oks
[12:12] <nodesert_> turkce de konusalim o zaman
[12:13] <parkerw207> why is it even though i instaled the mp3 codecs
[12:13] <parkerw207> it wont play music off my ipod?
[12:14] <stdin> parkerw207: are some of them DRMed or aac/mp4s ?
[12:14] <parkerw207> nope
[12:14] <parkerw207> oo where do i get win32 codecs /
[12:15] <stdin> parkerw207: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[12:15] <stdin> parkerw207: and make sure you restart amarok after you installed libxine-extracodes too
[12:16] <parkerw207> oo ok then
[12:16] <parkerw207> amarok is the best ?
[12:17] <nodesert> i think so
[12:17] <stdin> parkerw207: for playing off on ipod, yeah
[12:17] <cypher_666> amarok < joo
[12:17] <cypher_666> jk
[12:17] <parkerw207> ooo
[12:17] <cypher_666> lol
[12:17] <stdin> parkerw207: and it's my favourite music player in general too
[12:17] <cypher_666> same
[12:17] <cypher_666> that and kaffeine
[12:18] <parkerw207> when connect my pod
[12:18] <parkerw207> it says i have to click connect
[12:18] <parkerw207> so i do
[12:18] <cypher_666> k
[12:18] <parkerw207> and it comes up with a confiure device form
[12:18] <parkerw207> what do i enter ?
[12:19] <parkerw207> it has things like , pre-connect command
[12:19] <cypher_666> do you mean the one that lets you to choose whether to open in window,play it or configure it
[12:19] <parkerw207> i am not sure
[12:19] <cypher_666> oh ok
[12:20] <parkerw207> i click on media device
[12:20] <parkerw207> then nohing comes up , it says i need to connect
[12:20] <parkerw207> so i click connect
[12:20] <parkerw207> and this box comes up
[12:20] <parkerw207> "configure media device"
[12:21] <cypher_666> ok im not sure what to do
[12:21] <parkerw207> hmm wierd
[12:22] <parkerw207> its ok i can just copy all the music
[12:22] <stdin> parkerw207: I think you just need to choose "apple ipod media device" from the drop down list, that's it
[12:23] <parkerw207> iit says no devices detected
[12:24] <stdin> parkerw207: maybe you need to put the mount point in too
[12:24] <parkerw207> how do do that?
[12:24] <stdin> parkerw207: have a look in /media to see what it is
[12:25] <parkerw207> in the console ?
[12:25] <ubuntu> Just installing the files now, wondering what is the real increase in spped using AMD64? Are packages brought out at the same time?
[12:25] <stdin> parkerw207: well you can do it in konsole, or with Konqueror
[12:26] <parkerw207> oo
[12:26] <parkerw207> it says its mounted to
[12:26] <parkerw207> oops :S
[12:26] <arphetic> wTF
[12:27] <parkerw207> what o i do now lol
[12:27] <stdin> ubuntu: packages should be released at the same time, and there is a small increase in speed, but just remember than some media formats aren't available on amd64
[12:27] <ubuntu> yes this is what i was thinking.. esp for wincodecs
[12:27] <stdin> ubuntu: and flash
[12:27] <ubuntu> pah.. i'll just stick with i386 :)
[12:27] <arphetic> Is there a way to kill all processes using the modthing
[12:28] <arphetic> the adept mods thing or something
[12:28] <stdin> parkerw207: put the path to the ipod in to the "enter the mount point of the device" part
[12:29] <kkosmo> stdin
[12:29] <ubuntu> oh brb in lovely kubuntu :)
[12:29] <kkosmo> you can help me
[12:29] <stdin> kkosmo: maybe, if you ask a question
[12:30] <parkerw207> ok
[12:30] <parkerw207> not tha dont work
[12:30] <parkerw207> it says command or something ?
[12:30] <kkosmo> ok i add new ram to my computer the ram is kingston 512mb ddr 533mhz ok when i put it in computer i turned on the pc and i get a kernel panic error you can help me how i can fix this problem
[12:30] <parkerw207> exaple is %d
[12:30] <parkerw207> i dont know what that means
[12:31] <arphetic> Is there a way to kill all processes using the package system database? (something is running it, which prevents me from installing stuff I think)
[12:31] <stdin> parkerw207: try "mount %d"
[12:31] <stdin> !aptfix | arphetic
[12:31] <ubotu> arphetic: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:31] <kkosmo> stdin
[12:32] <kkosmo> you know how to help me
[12:32] <kkosmo> ?
[12:32] <stdin> kkosmo: I'd say run memtest
[12:32] <arphetic> thanks stdin :0
[12:32] <the-erm> Anyone know how to get flash to use esd in firefox?
[12:32] <kkosmo> ok
[12:32] <kkosmo> i runing
[12:32] <kkosmo> if i get an error
[12:32] <parkerw207> does nothing
[12:32] <kkosmo> i tell you
[12:32] <stdin> kkosmo: ok
[12:32] <kkosmo> but
[12:32] <kkosmo> the panic
[12:32] <kkosmo> is unable to mount the root fs
[12:32] <the-erm> I run AudioCompress in the background, and would like to have flash use esd.
[12:32] <kkosmo> ok
[12:32] <kkosmo> i try memmtest
[12:33] <kkosmo> sec
[12:34] <arphetic> Btw, is there a way to check if there are wrongly installed programms ? Since I tried several programms, dnno which packages they include, i'd like to reinstall those ;)
[12:35] <stdin> the-erm: in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc change "FIREFOX_DSP" to "FIREFOX_DSP=esddsp", that should do it
[12:35] <GioS^_^> giorno a tutti
[12:36] <the-erm> thanks stdin
[12:36] <stdin> !it | GioS^_^
[12:36] <ubotu> GioS^_^: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:36] <stdin> the-erm: yw
[12:37] <GioS^_^> ok grz
[12:38] <parkerw207> right so i got what i needed working
[12:38] <parkerw207> anything new and exciting in the world of linux at the moment ?
[12:39] <stdin> parkerw207: beryl probably
[12:39] <parkerw207> how do i instal that , thats the 3d desktop right ?
[12:40] <parkerw207> i had a live distro ok knoptix and it had that
[12:40] <stdin> yeah, how you install it depends on what video hardware you have
[12:40] <parkerw207> i thought it was great but all the icons and stuff was a little pixalate
[12:40] <parkerw207> erm how do i find out that ?
[12:41] <stdin> parkerw207: in konsole run "lspci | grep Graphics"
[12:41] <arphetic> Btw, why cant I change my resolution? I go to system settings -> display -> Administrator -> set new resolution. I press Ok, and it says 15 seconds before change back, but nothing has changed?
[12:42] <parkerw207> ok then
[12:42] <parkerw207> so now what do i do?
[12:42] <stdin> parkerw207: post what it says
[12:42] <stdin> !xconfig | arphetic
[12:42] <ubotu> arphetic: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[12:43] <stdin> arphetic: use that last command there
[12:43] <parkerw207> ok but that will be a big post
[12:43] <stdin> parkerw207: use pastebin then
[12:44] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:44] <stdin> arphetic: or have a look here http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:44] <parkerw207> done
[12:45] <arphetic> stdin:
[12:45] <arphetic> arphetic@arphetic-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[12:45] <arphetic> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:45] <arphetic>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070208124508
[12:45] <Sekaab> bya @ all, im out
[12:45] <stdin> arphetic: that's normal, it's fine
[12:46] <arphetic> ye, but then?
[12:46] <arphetic> !FixRes
[12:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:46] <parkerw207> ok so what do i do now?
[12:47] <stdin> parkerw207: post the url
[12:49] <parkerw207> ok hen
[12:49] <arphetic> stdin:  didnt work tbh
[12:49] <parkerw207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4701/
[12:50] <arphetic> Undetected Monitor Specs ill try that
[12:50] <stdin> parkerw207: well you have an easy install as you have an intel chip. that makes things quite easy :)
[12:50] <parkerw207> hehe :)
[12:51] <parkerw207> so what does moi do :P
[12:51] <Ayabara> anyone know how to setup bluetooth on edgy? I can't find any devices with hcitool dev
[12:51] <alfatau> hello! i would want to have my home directory icon onto the desktop. how to add it? last kde's version didn't have a directory link as i could do now...
[12:52] <parkerw207> one sec stdin , going afk
[12:52] <kristina> hi, I connect to the internet using pppoe, and I set it up so that my pc connects automatically on boot time. once in a while it isn't able to connect (unrecognized option eth1, so I guess it can't find my modem). Is there a way to scan again for modems without rebooting?
[12:52] <stdin> parkerw207: there is a howto here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX, all you do is modify a couple files, then install beryl. If you get stuck, or aren't sure about something, just give me a shout
[12:53] <karmikaze> hrm
[12:53] <karmikaze> !wifi drivers
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <stdin> !wifi
[12:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:53] <karmikaze> i just got a pci wifi card
[12:53] <karmikaze> i need everything just on download. cos i dont have internet at home
[12:54] <karmikaze> i havent added new hardware apart from disks in years
[12:54] <karmikaze> i wonder if its going to be easier to just reinstlal kubuntu
[12:54] <karmikaze> than to faff around with drivers
[12:54] <shar9313> hi all, can anybody tell me why knetwork manager fails to store wpa passwords in kwallet?
[12:54] <stdin> alfatau: you just right click the desktop, choose Create New -> Link to Location (URL) and have the URL point to /home/user (where "user" is your username)
[12:55] <karmikaze> youre lucky if you get wpa to work at all...
[12:56] <shar9313> so how come it works flawlessly in windoze?
[12:56] <karmikaze> it works flawlessly in suse
[12:56] <karmikaze> its an ubuntu bug
[12:57] <alfatau> stdin: thank you! bye bye
[12:57] <karmikaze> i assume youve already set up wpa supplicant if youve managed to get on a wpa network at all
[12:57] <Ayabara> anyone? I need bluetooth help :-)
[12:57] <shar9313> suse also has the same knetworkmanager/kwallet setup?
[12:57] <stdin> !bluetooth | Ayabara
[12:57] <ubotu> Ayabara: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:57] <karmikaze> it can, i use gnome with suse, but use knetworkmanager
[12:58] <karmikaze> its nowt to do with your DE/WM
[12:58] <Ayabara> stdin, thanks, but I tried that one. problem is I can't find any devices with hcitool dev
[12:59] <stdin> Ayabara: are you sure that the device has bluetooth turned on, and/or that the bluetooth addapter on your system is working ?
[12:59] <arphetic> I just changed my drivers, if it is incorrect, where can I set the backup back again? :)
[12:59] <arphetic> /etc/X11 right?
[01:00] <stdin> arphetic: yeah
[01:00] <arphetic> ijey
[01:00] <arphetic> okey
[01:00] <Ayabara> stdin, It should be working. lsmod gives me a bluetooth entry. I hope it's turned on. Hmm. maybe I need to activate it in bios?
[01:02] <stdin> Ayabara: I have the "bluetooth" module loaded, but I don't have a bluetooth device, so that doesn't mean anything to have it loaded. check lspci/lspcmcia/lsusb for the bluetooth device
[01:06] <parkerw207> ok i am back
[01:06] <parkerw207> so for this beryl ?
[01:06] <parkerw207> hehe :P
[01:07] <stdin> parkerw207: there is a howto here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX, all you do is modify a couple files, then install beryl. If you get stuck, or aren't sure about something, just give me a shout
[01:08] <karmikaze> are atheros wifi cards supported under ndiswrapper or something else?
[01:09] <parkerw207> thank stding
[01:09] <Ayabara> stdin, aha. no bluetooth device in sight.
[01:09] <parkerw207> you have been a great help
[01:09] <stdin> parkerw207: that's why I'm here :)
[01:09] <stdin> Ayabara: well that's the problem then
[01:10] <parkerw207> stdin thanks anyway its appreicaited
[01:10] <parkerw207> how do i make my text red ?:S
[01:10] <karmikaze> and bit of a question with installing new pci hardware... if i put it in there is it going to be recognised at boot? or am i going to have to configure something to make my system see it
[01:10] <Ayabara> stdin, yep. the device is in there, so I just gotta figure out how to turn it on...
[01:10] <stdin> parkerw207: it turns red when someone says your nickname here <-- Red text
[01:10] <stdin> not red :P
[01:10] <parkerw207> ooo i see
[01:11] <parkerw207> stdin
[01:11] <parkerw207> yours dont :S
[01:11] <stdin> parkerw207: I see it as red, you don't
[01:11] <parkerw207> ooo lmfao
[01:11] <parkerw207> i am an idiot hehe
[01:11] <stdin> nah, just learning :)
[01:11] <parkerw207> hehe i will do
[01:12] <Ayabara> there are no stupid questions, only stupid people ;-) (south park)
[01:12] <stdin> heh
[01:24] <julien> UBUNTU.FR please
[01:24] <Jucato> !fr | julien
[01:24] <ubotu> julien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:24] <julien> thank you
[01:24] <arphetic> odd shit with the drier lawl
[01:25] <arphetic> its the right resolution now, but its kinda fucked up (well, not when signed in, but when I am on the splashscreen / login screen, I can go to left and right on the screen etc :S)
[01:26] <kkosmo> stdin
[01:26] <kkosmo> ?
[01:26] <stdin> kkosmo ?
[01:26] <kkosmo> i put out
[01:26] <kkosmo> this memory
[01:26] <kkosmo> and its give that
[01:26] <kkosmo> error
[01:26] <kkosmo> agein
[01:27] <parkerw207> stdin i need help now hehe
[01:27] <kkosmo> i think this error not come becouse the memory
[01:27] <parkerw207> when i type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" it say command not found
[01:27] <Jucato> parkerw207: kdm not gdm
[01:28] <Jucato> GDM = GNOME Display Manager
[01:28] <stdin> parkerw207: heh, yeah that's an Ubuntu one, KDM is the Kubuntu one :)
[01:28] <parkerw207> ooo yeah
[01:28] <stdin> kkosmo: maybe you damaged the ram when you installed the new stick
[01:28] <Jucato> ouch
[01:28] <Jucato> that's not good... :(
[01:28] <kkosmo> i dont know but i rule it out
[01:29] <kkosmo> and the error come to witout the ram
[01:29] <kkosmo> ram be out
[01:29] <stdin> kkosmo: check with only the old stick, then only the new one
[01:29] <kkosmo> i check with only the old stick
[01:29] <kkosmo> and its dont work
[01:29] <kkosmo> and yesterdayt
[01:30] <kkosmo> i check with only
[01:30] <kkosmo> the old stick and its dont work
[01:30] <stdin> so have you checked with only the new one?
[01:30] <kkosmo> yes
[01:30] <kkosmo> yesterday
[01:30] <kkosmo> i give you the excectly error
[01:31] <stdin> check if you can run a live cd
[01:31] <kkosmo> maybe its help to you
[01:31] <kkosmo> i am in live
[01:31] <kkosmo> cd
[01:31] <kkosmo> now
[01:31] <kkosmo> [12:31]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from kkosmo: Konversation 1.0.1 (C) 2002-2006 by the Konversation team
[01:31] <kkosmo> !pastebin
[01:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:31] <stdin> well, then the rem should be ok
[01:31] <kkosmo> so what problem
[01:32] <parkerw207> oo crap lol
[01:32] <stdin> kkosmo: what's the exact error?
[01:32] <kkosmo> sec
[01:32] <parkerw207> i dunno what just happened
[01:32] <kkosmo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4703/
[01:32] <parkerw207> everything went balck lol
[01:32] <kkosmo> look
[01:32] <parkerw207> and all i got was a play underline
[01:33] <parkerw207> flashing*
[01:33] <stdin> parkerw207: so you have made the changes to xorg.conf now, and restarted KDM?
[01:34] <parkerw207> erm
[01:34] <parkerw207> can i have the url again please
[01:34] <stdin> parkerw207: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[01:34] <parkerw207> thanks
[01:34] <parkerw207> why would it just go black ?
[01:35] <kkosmo> stdin
[01:35] <kkosmo> you know how to help me plz
[01:35] <stdin> parkerw207: because you restarted the X server (the thing that lets you see graphics)
[01:35] <parkerw207> so it was meant to ? lol
[01:35] <stdin> kkosmo: have you make any other changes?
[01:35] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah :)
[01:35] <parkerw207> or was i meant to wait ? hehe
[01:35] <kkosmo> no
[01:35] <kkosmo> i dont think
[01:36] <parkerw207> i didnt say it in the tutorial ! would have helped lol
[01:36] <stdin> kkosmo: check /boot/grub/menu.lst to make sure it is setup right, it seems to be a a problem mounting the root partition
[01:37] <kkosmo> if i give you the file
[01:37] <kkosmo> in paste bin
[01:37] <kkosmo> you can check it for me
[01:37] <stdin> kkosmo: I don't know what device is your root tho
[01:38] <parkerw207> wow beryll is great
[01:39] <parkerw207> hehe
[01:39] <stdin> parkerw207: hold Ctrl-Alt and click and drag :P
[01:40] <parkerw207> hehe i know :P
[01:40] <parkerw207> i use it on knoptix
[01:40] <mneisen> Hi there, I have a problem with held-back packages. apt-get tells me that four packages (linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-386 linux-restricted-modules-generic) have been kept back, and I do not seem to be able to solve this problem. Any suggestions?
[01:40] <parkerw207> or that ever its called hehe
[01:41] <stdin> knoppix :P
[01:42] <parkerw207> thats it :P
[01:43] <stdin> parkerw207: my (current) desktop http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot12dz7.jpg
[01:45] <parkerw207> wow thats great
[01:45] <parkerw207> hey how do i open a texteditor as root ?
[01:45] <kkosmo> stdin
[01:45] <nodesert> sudo vim file_name
[01:45] <kkosmo> all good in the menu.lst and also this error
[01:45] <mneisen> parkerw207: sudo kate /etc/...
[01:46] <kkosmo> comoing
[01:46] <stdin> parkerw207: no, never use vim :P
[01:46] <nodesert> why vim is the best
[01:46] <stubs> :P vim isn't an editor it's a religion
[01:46] <mneisen> Hi there, I have a problem with held-back packages. apt-get tells me that four packages (linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-386 linux-restricted-modules-generic) have been kept back, and I do not seem to be able to solve this problem. Any suggestions?
[01:46] <kkosmo> stdin
[01:47] <stdin> nodesert: not for a new user, or anyone who hasen't used vim before
[01:47] <kkosmo> plzzz help me
[01:47] <stubs> mneisen: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:47] <parkerw207> thanks :)
[01:47] <Baracuda> Hey Guys
[01:47] <parkerw207> how do i save it as a script?
[01:47] <stdin> kkosmo: I've never seen had that error before, so I don't know how to
[01:47] <Hirvinen> stdin: Please refrain from trying to start editor wars.
[01:48] <kkosmo> listen
[01:48] <kkosmo> before two days
[01:48] <kkosmo> i reinstall the kubuntu
[01:48] <kkosmo> and this error come agein
[01:48] <mneisen> stubs: Did that already, did not work.
[01:48] <mneisen> Output is:
[01:48] <Baracuda> newbie here, I can't make any changes in adept because another process is using it .... I don't know what the process is, can anyone help ?
[01:48] <mneisen> $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:48] <mneisen> Reading package lists... Done
[01:48] <stdin> !aptfix | Baracuda
[01:48] <ubotu> Baracuda: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:48] <mneisen> Building dependency tree
[01:48] <stubs> Baracuda: safest way: reboot
[01:49] <mneisen> Reading state information... Done
[01:49] <mneisen> Calculating upgrade... Done
[01:49] <mneisen> The following packages have been kept back:
[01:49] <mneisen>   linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-386
[01:49] <mneisen>   linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:49] <mneisen> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[01:49] <Baracuda> stdin  so it's !atpfix  adept    /
[01:49] <stubs> mneisen: if the kernel works well, don't touch it. but you could explicitly install them with apt-get install linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-386
[01:49] <mneisen> Baracuda: No, read what ubotu told you.
[01:49] <parkerw207> hmm i am confused guys :(
[01:49] <Baracuda> stubs I rebooted 3 times  still no good
[01:49] <stdin> Baracuda: no, look at the message ubotu posted to you
[01:50] <mneisen> stubs: The kernel upgrade comes from the security repository, so I guess I really want to install it ...
[01:50] <mneisen> :-D
[01:50] <Baracuda> meneisen it simply says that you can't make an changes in adept because another process is using the prog
[01:50] <stubs> Baracuda: dirty hack: sudo rm /var/libg/dpkg/lock
[01:50] <mneisen> !aptfix | Baracuda
[01:50] <ubotu> Baracuda: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:50] <arphetic> hwo to run a doinst.sh ?
[01:50] <mneisen> Baracuda: Now read what ubotu told you
[01:50] <stdin> mneisen: you can always do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-386 linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[01:50] <mneisen> !aptfix | Baracuda
[01:50] <kkosmo> stdin
[01:50] <kkosmo> ?
[01:51] <stubs> mneisen: sounds strange.
[01:51] <stubs> new kernel ... reboot
[01:51] <mneisen> stubs: what exactly - the output from apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:51] <mneisen> great, stubs left the moment I talked to him ... :-D
[01:51] <Baracuda> is mneisen a bot ?
[01:51] <mneisen> Baracuda: No, I am not a bot, ubotu is the bot.
[01:51] <mneisen> Oh my ...
[01:51] <Baracuda> ok :)
[01:52] <stdin> arphetic: open konsole and use: sh /path/to/dotsh.sh
[01:52] <Baracuda>  sorry :)
[01:52] <mneisen> No offence taken, but whta made you think that I am a bot.
[01:52] <mneisen> ?
[01:52] <parkerw207> dont worry i fixed it :)
[01:52] <arphetic> thnx
[01:53] <mneisen> stdin: thanks for the tipp using apt-get install. But I think there must be a proper way to upgrade software.
[01:53] <mneisen> stdin: I repeatedly ran into this problem, not only when upgrading the kernel.
[01:54] <mneisen> stdin: I think I'll try my luck with adept_notifier (which I turned off previously :-D)
[01:54] <arphetic> Anyone here has Mercury installed (The Java-based jabber/msn cleint etc?)
[01:54] <parkerw207> stin can i get some help quickly
[01:54] <parkerw207> wont take long
[01:54] <stdin> mneisen: I don't know why dist-upgrade won't work for you. you could always use aptitude, which tries harder to work out dependencies
[01:55] <stdin> parkerw207: sure
[01:55] <parkerw207> ok
[01:55] <parkerw207> i need help with this bit , i'll pastebin it
[01:55] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[01:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:55] <Baracuda> mneisen is that the whole syntax ? aptfix |     that's all ?
[01:56] <stdin> Baracuda: in Konsole run "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:56] <arphetic> where can I get KDE Theme Manager or something like that (from kde-look.org maybe?)
[01:56] <parkerw207> ooo actualy its ok
[01:56] <parkerw207> i did it :)
[01:56] <stdin> parkerw207: heh, ok :)
[01:58] <parkerw207> right anything else ? new and cool to linux :P
[01:58] <parkerw207> hehe
[01:58] <mneisen> Baracuda; Try to concentrate. I will now tell the bot named ubotu to tell you how to fix your apt repository. Watch closely ...
[01:58] <Baracuda> stdin this is what I get
[01:58] <Baracuda> Cannot stat /var/lib/dpkg/lock:sudo: No such file or directory
[01:58] <Baracuda> Cannot stat dpkg: No such file or directory
[01:58] <Baracuda>                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[01:58] <mneisen> !aptfix | Baracuda
[01:58] <ubotu> Baracuda: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:58] <mneisen> ^^
[01:59] <mneisen> What you got here is an standardized answer from ubotu.
[01:59] <mneisen> follow the advice.
[01:59] <mneisen> if it does not work, come back.
[01:59] <Baracuda> mneisen aptfix |  gave me nothing
[01:59] <stdin> arphetic: Alt-F2, kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes
[01:59] <parkerw207> stdin ?
[01:59] <Jucato> !changethemes | arphetic
[01:59] <ubotu> arphetic: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[01:59] <mneisen> Baracuda: Did you see the line from the user ubotu?
[02:00] <Baracuda>  I did mneisen and I entered it  and it gave me the above answer
[02:00] <stdin> parkerw207: there is always something, just depends what you consider to be "cool" :P
[02:00] <arphetic> ye nvm getting gnome/ubuntu >.<
[02:01] <parkerw207> stdin: hmmmmm
[02:01] <stdin> Baracuda: you entered : not ;
[02:01] <mneisen> try inserting a space between "lock;" and "sudo dpkg"
[02:01] <ForgeAus> Jucato can you help me with something
[02:01] <stdin> Baracuda: use a semi-colon
[02:01] <Baracuda>  now I can't even access my home folder or kaffeine  and some other applications :(
[02:01] <parkerw207> what in your opinion is worth having?
[02:01] <ForgeAus> kompile claims to be missing kdesu
[02:01] <Jucato> ForgeAus: hm?
[02:01] <ForgeAus> of course kdesu is definitely installed on my system
[02:01] <ForgeAus> because I can use it
[02:01] <ForgeAus> so howcome kompile in adept believes it not to be installed?
[02:02] <Jucato> ForgeAus: kompile is a program right?
[02:02] <ForgeAus> yes
[02:02] <ForgeAus> (but I was talking about the package)
[02:02] <ForgeAus> kdesu is a dependancy of the package
[02:02] <Jucato> let me try
[02:03] <ForgeAus> really my issue is why doesn't Adept think I have kdesu installed?
[02:03] <Jucato> hm...
[02:03] <stdin> kdesu isn't a package, it's in kdebase-bin
[02:03] <Baracuda>  still no good
[02:03] <Mena> stdin, how can i complile  kopete with debug enabled
[02:03] <Mena> stdin, first i had a debug then they told me that
[02:03] <Jucato> ForgeAus: hold on...
[02:03] <ForgeAus> if thats the case then why doesn't kdebase-bin provide the package kdesu like a virtual package?
[02:04] <Mena> stdin, if it was too long tell me
[02:04] <Jucato> Mena: ./configure --enable-debug=true (or full)
[02:04] <Mena> jucato, thats all
[02:04] <Jucato> Mena: well, that's just the part you were asking
[02:04] <stdin> that should do it
[02:05] <Jucato> --enable-debug=true or --enable-debug=full
[02:05] <Mena> jucato , ok
[02:05] <Mena> stdin, ok
[02:05] <parkerw207> how come the adept icon in the corner of the desktop says it need updating even though i did update 2 secs ago
[02:06] <stdin> parkerw207: click it again and find out
[02:06] <ForgeAus> parker depends on the packages it needed to upgrade and what SORT of update you did
[02:06] <ForgeAus> (theres a diff between full update and safe udate)
[02:06] <Jucato> there seems to be some problems w/ the latest kernel updates
[02:06] <parkerw207> ok doing it now
[02:07] <parkerw207> generic linux kernel headers
[02:07] <Baracuda> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/llock:sudo dpkg --configure -a    this is what I entered and still same reply
[02:07] <ForgeAus> ie kxmame is in beta and doesn't upgrade in a safe update...
[02:07] <parkerw207> generi linux kernal image
[02:07] <parkerw207> restricted linux modules on 386
[02:07] <parkerw207> restrictred linux module for generic kernels :S
[02:08] <stdin> Baracuda: again, you typed a : not a ;
[02:08] <Baracuda> I tried ubuntu, kubuntu... now I think it's  perhaps time for xubuntu :)  and that doesn't work as it should do ... I'll simply give up on the buntus :)
[02:09] <parkerw207> stdin: what are those files?
[02:09] <Baracuda> stdin they look same in my 15" screen ..hold on I get a magnifier :)
[02:09] <stdin> parkerw207: those are part of the kernel, the core of the os
[02:09] <parkerw207> ok then so i need to update ?
[02:09] <Baracuda> is it  ; instead of : ?
[02:09] <stdin> Baracuda: yeah
[02:09] <Baracuda> bloody hell!
[02:09] <Baracuda>  sorry
[02:10] <Mena> jucato, where to get kopete to make the debig
[02:10] <Mena> debug*
[02:10] <Baracuda> I swear they look the same here
[02:10] <ForgeAus> bara what about kubuntu didn't work for you?
[02:10] <Jucato> Mena: I don't know
[02:10] <parkerw207> stdin : do i need to upgrade them ?
[02:10] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, if the update notifier won't do it, then you should be able to in the adept package manager
[02:10] <Mena> jucato, ok
[02:10] <Baracuda> ForgeAus it's what I'm using now
[02:10] <Jucato> Mena: ask in #kopete
[02:10] <Mena> ok
[02:10] <ForgeAus> from what I can see it is working
[02:10] <Jucato> Mena: oh wait... why do you need to enable debug?
[02:10] <parkerw207> stdin : it just says they are upgradable
[02:11] <ForgeAus> at least your able to run an irc client which I assume is konversation
[02:11] <parkerw207> request : no change
[02:11] <Baracuda> ForgeAus what version are you running ?
[02:11] <ForgeAus> version of kubuntu? edgy eft
[02:11] <parkerw207> can i only install one at a time ?
[02:11] <Mena> jucato, in the debug they one of there ask me to copy the output of that
[02:11] <parkerw207> its say BREAK in big read writtin when i select request upgrade
[02:11] <stdin> parkerw207: what if you do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in konsole ?
[02:11] <Baracuda>  6.10 or 6.06 ?
[02:11] <Jucato> Mena: hold on
[02:12] <Mena> jucato, ok bec i had a problem with the adrres book
[02:12] <ForgeAus> edgy is 6.10 dapper is 1.06
[02:12] <ForgeAus> grr 6.06
[02:12] <ForgeAus> I think...
[02:12] <Baracuda> same here then
[02:12] <ForgeAus> I don't kno wmuch about dapper
[02:13] <ForgeAus> feisty will be 7.06
[02:13] <Jucato> Mena: why Kopete? it might be a bug in kaddressbook?
[02:13] <parkerw207> stdin : it says this
[02:13] <parkerw207> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[02:13] <MDCore> won't feisty be 7.04 ?
[02:13] <Baracuda>  I downloaded the amd64  version and wasn't happy, so I tried the *86  .. which i'm using now
[02:13] <ForgeAus> MDCore, they're changing the release date?
[02:13] <keb> parkerw207 i have the same problems
[02:13] <stdin> !feisty
[02:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:13] <MDCore> ForgeAus: sorry.. I saw a note this morning about a release... ah there we go
[02:14] <MDCore> dankie ubotu
[02:14] <parkerw207> keb : i wont why it is :S
[02:14] <Mena> jucato, no i tell them i had a problem with kopete to get the my firends list info......do you think that bec of kadresbook
[02:14] <ForgeAus> interesting
[02:14] <keb> i try to update a lot of things and they're all broken
[02:14] <parkerw207> stdin : any ideas ?
[02:14] <keb> i use dapper as well
[02:14] <ForgeAus> my apologies... 7.04...
[02:14] <Mena> jucato, bec i lready added info to them while using yahoo massneger
[02:14] <stdin> parkerw207: I'm just experimenting on my edgy system for you now :P
[02:14] <Mena> already*
[02:14] <Jucato> Mena: depends. anyway, who are those asking for the copy of the backtrace (debug)
[02:15] <parkerw207> thank you very much!
[02:15] <ForgeAus> I can't seem to install the .deb from yahoo for yahoo messenger
[02:15] <stdin> ForgeAus: missing deps?
[02:15] <keb> hm.. anyways, is there any way to have glibc 2.4 on ubuntu?
[02:15] <ForgeAus> um some file.... ssl.so or something can't remember
[02:15] <Mena> jucato, in the site http://bugs.kde.org
[02:16] <Mena> jucato, Some one reply and told me do that
[02:16] <keb> autoconf2.13 stdin
[02:16] <Baracuda>  ForgeAus I haven't reached that stage yet .. i am now trying to run what ever application came with the version :)  so consider yourself lucky :)
[02:16] <Mena> jucato, do you need his name
[02:16] <Jucato> Mena: can you give me the link?
[02:16] <parkerw207> stdin : i still cant get kdethememanager
[02:16] <stdin> ForgeAus: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" after trying to install the deb
[02:16] <Mena> jucato, ok
[02:16] <Mena> jucato, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140961
[02:16] <ForgeAus> um after? I't didn't install
[02:16] <Baracuda> !Success the syntax  seems to have worked  :)  cheers guys
[02:16] <ForgeAus> I have to do it before
[02:16] <keb> and lot of KDE upgrades, yes, basically almost all KDE upgrades
[02:16] <ForgeAus> anyway my apt-get is already fixed
[02:16] <Jucato> parkerw207: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" then go to Appearance & Themes -> Theme Manager
[02:17] <ForgeAus> no errors anymore
[02:17] <christine_> hi. do anyone know how I can get a hold of a screensaver, I think is called "fuzzy flakes"?
[02:17] <parkerw207> ooo my fualt sorry
[02:18] <Baracuda> I installed automatix and it failed I think it's the reason I am having all these problems, it's a buggy software I think
[02:18] <Jucato> Mena: ok hold on a second
[02:18] <stdin> another automatix victim
[02:18] <Mena> jucato, take your time
[02:19] <keb> hm.. is it bad to use the sources.list from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper ?
[02:20] <parkerw207> is beagle any good ?
[02:20] <Jucato> Mena: let's see if we can do something so that you won't have to compile
[02:21] <Mena> jucato, okay
[02:21] <Baracuda> Question if an application is broken in adept, what is the best practice .. to uninstall it or to reinstall it ?
[02:21] <Jucato> compiling something like Kopete will not be easy
[02:21] <Mena> jucato, ok
[02:21] <ForgeAus> ahh interesting command: xrandr -s 0
[02:22] <ForgeAus> resets screen res ... the guys at winehq told me... not sure if wine is required tho
[02:22] <Baracuda> ForgeAus is wine working stable with kubuntu ?
[02:23] <stdin> wine isn't "stable" on anything
[02:23] <xsacha> hah
[02:23] <Baracuda> lol
[02:23] <xsacha> fixme: this worked on the devs computer
[02:24] <keb> Baracuda wine is working fine for me on ubuntu
[02:24] <parkerw207> what is wine?
[02:24] <parkerw207> well i know what it is
[02:24] <parkerw207> how do i use it ?
[02:24] <Jucato> !wine | parkerw207
[02:24] <ubotu> parkerw207: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:24] <parkerw207> thanks
[02:24] <MDCore> parkerw207: wine app.exe
[02:25] <MDCore> is the quickest way to run it
[02:25] <ForgeAus> wine seems to work for me
[02:25] <ForgeAus> I'm not entirely certain I'd call it stable tho...
[02:25] <keb> anyone knows the solution why are the links in sources.list from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper broken?
[02:26] <xsacha> sudo linux32 wine iexplorer.exe http://www.site.com/test.html
[02:26] <ForgeAus> cxoffice is another good way to get ie for linux
[02:26] <keb> who wants crappy ie for linux? o.O
[02:26] <parkerw207> MDCore: wine app.exe ?
[02:26] <Jucato> there's also ies4linux
[02:26] <ForgeAus> yup
[02:27] <ForgeAus> cxoffice isn't free btw
[02:27] <ForgeAus> neither is cedega but somehow I managed to get them both
[02:27] <keb> aww.. no on has any idea why man cannot upgrade anything in ubuntu??
[02:28] <ForgeAus> keb that sounds strange
[02:28] <ForgeAus> upgrading should work in ubuntu from what I gather
[02:28] <keb> most links are broken in sources.list
[02:28] <ForgeAus> keb then try switchinh mirrors
[02:28] <Jucato> Mena: I'm trying to install something to check if you this will work without you having to compile Kopete to give them what they're asking for
[02:29] <ForgeAus> gggrrr switching
[02:29] <Jucato> but it's taking time
[02:29] <sorush20> after a reboot my kubuntu box is not starting into kdm.. even when i do sudo kdm I don't see it happening.. I just see the black and white login terminal. any ideas what I can do?
[02:29] <Mena> jucato, okay
[02:29] <Mena> jucato, no problem
[02:29] <Baracuda>  Question ! what should I do with broken installations in adept ?   is it beeter to reinstall or remove then install ?
[02:29] <sorush20> did I miss anything
[02:30] <keb> ForgeAus where can i find working mirrors?
[02:30] <MDCore> Baracuda: remove then re-install imho
[02:30] <Baracuda> ok MDcore  thanks
[02:30] <MDCore> sorush20: no. what did you install, uninstall ?
[02:31] <ForgeAus> keb try checking help.ubuntu.com
[02:31] <sorush20> I didn't install or uninstall anything
[02:31] <ForgeAus> if you try to download it it should show a list of mirrors
[02:31] <sorush20> MDCore: at least I can remember not installing or uninstalling
[02:32] <keb> thx
[02:32] <ForgeAus> (or perhaps try planetmirror? there's bound to be ubuntu there)
[02:32] <MDCore> sorush20: ok. did you do any updates or anything ?
[02:32] <sorush20> MDCore: no
[02:32] <MDCore> sorush20: sorry just going through the basic questions.
[02:32] <MDCore> sorush20: k.
[02:32] <sorush20> MDCore: thanks
[02:32] <ForgeAus> I suggest keeping with the official distro repositories tho
[02:32] <MDCore> sorush20: so kdm just drops you back to the prompt ? no error messages or anything ?
[02:32] <sorush20> that is right
[02:33] <Jucato> sorush20: what happens when you run "startx"?
[02:33] <sorush20> actually it dosent' drop there I press alt f1 to get there
[02:33] <sorush20> I have to go and do it and come back
[02:33] <Jucato> did you just recently install some nvidia drivers?
[02:34] <MDCore> sorush20: ah... so alt-F7 gives you what ? a blank screen ?
[02:34] <mneisen> Hi there, I have a problem with held-back packages. apt-get tells me that four packages (linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-386 linux-restricted-modules-generic) have been kept back, and I do not seem to be able to solve this problem. Any suggestions?
[02:34] <stdin> yeah, seen that a lot lately
[02:35] <Hobbsee> mneisen: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:35] <Jucato> Mena: hm.... not sure if this will really work... install "kdenetwork-dbg". then run kopete from Konsole. it wil spit out some messages in Konsole. wait for kopete to be fully loaded then copy those messages and put them in the bug report
[02:35] <keb> ForgeAus from help.ubuntu.com there is nothing to download
[02:35] <mneisen> stdin: what strikes me as odd is that I can already see the packages in the repository.
[02:35] <mneisen> Hobbsee: Tried that, didnt work.
[02:35] <mneisen> The packages are held back.
[02:35] <Jucato> Hobbsee: there seems to be some problems with that... it's the 3rd time I've seen it today. including mine
[02:35] <Mena> jucato, okay
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Jucato: cant do anything with "doesnt work"
[02:36] <stdin> mneisen: can you see linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic tho?
[02:36] <Mena> jucato, so they will know th eproblem throught this
[02:36] <Mena> problem*
[02:36] <Jucato> Mena: hopefully
[02:36] <Hobbsee> Jucato: if someone actually pastebinned some errors though, that might help
[02:36] <Mena> jucato, ok
[02:36] <Jucato> Hobbsee: dang... too bad I kinda "resolved" mine... :(
[02:36] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:36] <Hobbsee> !doesn't work | mneisen
[02:36] <ubotu> mneisen: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[02:36] <ForgeAus> ok keb try www.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <ForgeAus> the download link
[02:37] <bXi> is it possible to get glx stuff on a gforce 2?
[02:37] <Jucato> Hobbsee: dist-upgrade just says that packages are held back
[02:37] <Hobbsee> mneisen: if you could pastebin the stuff about dist-upgrading, like all the errors you get, then that would help
[02:37] <Jucato> Hobbsee: it seems to be something related to linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.11-generic
[02:37] <Hobbsee> Jucato: still not enough info. did you try installing the held back packages manually?
[02:37] <stdin> apt-get install linux-image-generic shows "linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic but it is not installable" and apt-get install linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic shows "E: Package linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic has no installation candidate"
[02:37] <ForgeAus> if you have edgy try 6.10 links
[02:37] <ForgeAus> if you have dapper try 6.06 links
[02:37] <Jucato> Hobbsee: there ^^^
[02:37] <Jucato> exactly like that
[02:38] <Jucato> (what stdin said)
[02:38] <Hobbsee> stdin: oh fun.
[02:38] <Hobbsee> stdin: which arch?
[02:38] <stdin> looks like the binary packages aren't available yet
[02:38] <stdin> Hobbsee: x86
[02:38] <Jucato> I "resolved" it by using aptitude and removing the metapackages (linux-generic)
[02:38] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ouch.
[02:39] <Jucato> yeah, ouch :)
[02:39] <Jucato> I will try to install stuff to reproduce the exact errors :)
[02:39] <Hobbsee> darned sparc.
[02:39] <mneisen> Hobbsee: The interesting thing is, that AFAICS the deb-files are in the reps on security.ubuntu.com
[02:39] <sorush20> I have a lot of errors on my root partition..
[02:39] <Hobbsee> mneisen: for most arches, yes.
[02:39] <sorush20> I need to know what to do..
[02:40] <mneisen> for my arch (i386)!
[02:40] <Hobbsee> no wait.  for all arches.
[02:40] <sorush20> I was told to run fsck manually but now I've fixed more than 20 errors and still no use
[02:40] <sorush20> I keep getting error and I keep getting asked to clear flags.. which I keep saying no
[02:40] <sorush20> but for fixing I keepsaying yes..
[02:41] <ForgeAus> Jucato did you find out about Kompile? did I miss your message? (you said to hold on)
[02:41] <sorush20> any idea how I can automate the fsck and fix?
[02:41] <Hobbsee> mneisen: interesting.  you can ignore the kept back packages, btw
[02:41] <Baracuda> Anyone here using a dvb-t card with kaffeine ?
[02:41] <Jucato> ForgeAus: not yet... I'm also investigating that
[02:41] <ForgeAus> ok kewl
[02:41] <ForgeAus> no problem
[02:41] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you have an idea about that one? "kompile: Depends: kdesu which is a virtual package."
[02:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah, fixed in feisty
[02:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: needs to depend on kdebase, iirc
[02:42] <Jucato> so only in feisty?
[02:42] <ForgeAus> Jucato it is a virtual one?
[02:42] <Jucato> ForgeAus: ^^^
[02:42] <Hobbsee> yeah.  fix didnt have time for edgy
[02:42] <mneisen> Hobbsee: Yes, ignoring a problem always makes it go away ... :-D
[02:42] <Jucato> okie dokie. :)
[02:42] <ForgeAus> IC
[02:42] <Hobbsee> if we'd had more people fixing unmet deps in edgy, then more things would have been fixed
[02:42] <Hobbsee> mneisen: in the case of mirror problems and such, yes it does, actually :)
[02:42] <mneisen> Hobbsee: honestly, if there is a security-related upgrade to the *kernel* and its drivers, I want to install it ASAP.
[02:42] <Jucato> Hobbsee: true true... I'm trying to speed up my "training" as fast as I can :P
[02:43] <mneisen> Hobbsee: oic
[02:43] <ForgeAus> um Jucato but I do actually have the dependancy right? it sjust that the package says its not there because it can't find it...
[02:43] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it's a bug. you have what is *actually* needed. but the package points to the wrong dependency
[02:43] <ForgeAus> (because nothing tells it that it provides kdesu)
[02:43] <Jucato> (meaning you can't install it on Edgy...)
[02:43] <Jucato> at least, not that way...
[02:44] <ForgeAus> is there another way?
[02:44] <parkerw207> anyone here use beryl ?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> mneisen: got edgy-proposed enabled?
[02:44] <Jucato> ForgeAus: dunno...
[02:44] <Hobbsee> parkerw207: try #beryl
[02:44] <ForgeAus> or can I tell it to ignore the dependancy in this case??
[02:44] <sorush20> help pleaes someone
[02:44] <Jucato> parkerw207: or #ubuntu-effects
[02:44] <mneisen> Hobbsee: never heard of edgy-proposed.
[02:44] <ForgeAus> since its safe...
[02:44] <mneisen> Hobbsee: got a link
[02:44] <mneisen> !edgy-proposed
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy-proposed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <parkerw207> thanks
[02:44] <sebbar_> hi, is it possible to disable the "has joined channel", "has left server" and so on messages in konversation?
[02:45] <mneisen> !proposed
[02:45] <Jucato> sebbar_: yes
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proposed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <mneisen> parkerw207: I use beryl, it is great.
[02:45] <Jucato> sebbar_: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> Chat Window
[02:45] <Mena> jucato, to run kopete just type kopete right
[02:45] <sebbar_> Jucato: do you know how to do it?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> mneisen: hrm.  can you put apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.17 into !pastebin and give us teh link, please?
[02:45] <ForgeAus> mneisen its just another repo like edgy-updates and edgy itself..
[02:45] <Jucato> Mena: yes
[02:45] <Mena> jucato, ok
[02:46] <mneisen> ForgeAus: More like a series I think.
[02:46] <ForgeAus> kinda yeah
[02:46] <ForgeAus> a repo itself is a collection
[02:46] <sebbar_> Jucato: tnx
[02:46] <Jucato> edgy-proposed: where packages are first uploaded and tested before they are put in the official repos, afaik
[02:47] <mneisen> !paste
[02:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <Mena> jucato, its take time to load the full debug
[02:47] <ForgeAus> edgy edgy-secuirty edgy-backports edgy-proposed ... is there any others?
[02:47] <mneisen> Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4711/ - but I think you won't like it one bit ... :-D
[02:48] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:48] <jay> I installed the 8.3.0 fglrx driver from alberto's guide but it keeps on loading up 8.28 and failing
[02:48] <Hobbsee> mneisen: sorry, linux-source-2.6.17
[02:49] <Hobbsee> jay: i suggest you ask the guy who wrote the guide, as he knows the most about it
[02:50] <hbi> hi how do you do apt-get through a proxy
[02:50] <Jucato> Hobbsee: shouldn't you give apt-cache policy the exact package name?
[02:50] <mneisen> Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4713/
[02:50] <Jucato> ah ok
[02:50] <Hobbsee> Jucato: um, yeah.  but the packagename was worng
[02:50] <Jucato> :)
[02:50] <Jucato>  2.6.17.1-10.34 0        500 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages
[02:51] <mneisen> 500 -> Internal Server Error ?
[02:51] <Jucato> no
[02:51] <Hobbsee> mneisen: no, priority
[02:51] <Hobbsee> um, okay, interesting.
[02:51] <Hobbsee> seeing as that was uploaded on the 26th of october.
[02:52] <ForgeAus> Hobbsee seems like *most* of the dependancies in edgy are met anyway...
[02:52] <Baracuda> Is the troubleshooting messages stored with Uboto available somewhere ? I wanna get they  seems very useful
[02:52] <stdin> !bot
[02:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:52] <Hobbsee> ForgeAus: most, yes.
[02:52] <ForgeAus> a few bash-shell related ones and one kdesu dependancy (Kompile) is all that i've come across that aren't met
[02:52] <Baracuda> brilliant :)
[02:53] <Baracuda>  i'm bookmarking those
[02:56] <Mena> JUCATO, how much of time i hav to waite to give thema full debug you think
[02:56] <chepenguin> hi i need help how dou you apt-get throuhg a proxy?
[02:56] <Jucato> Mena: huh? is it still producing messages in Konsole? it should have stopped already
[02:57] <bobleny> Could someone please help me? Every time I try to login to the computer I get this message, "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check you installation." This happend after I tried to change the privilages of "Test file" in "/home/bob" I think I accedentlly clicked on the background resulting in me accedentlly changing the privilages on the "/home/bob" directory. How do I fix this?
[02:57] <Mena> jucato, i dont when i saw it i found more line have beec out
[02:57] <Mena> lines*
[02:57] <Jucato> beec?
[02:58] <mneisen> Hobbsee: Any suggestions?
[02:58] <Jucato> mneisen: ignore it for the meantime, I suppose...
[02:58] <stdin> bobleny: try "chmod 755 /home/bob"
[02:58] <Mena> jucato, i will take what have been out and paste it ...thanks for your help
[02:58] <Jucato> ok
[02:58] <Mena> jucato, ok
[02:59] <Baracuda> bye guys and thanks for the help
[02:59] <bobleny> Ok. Could you also tell me how to change the privilages to the other folder too? I want it so that Inorder to open the file, You have to type a password in.
[03:01] <Cuddles_in_KY> morning folks.
[03:01] <Draxer> Hey all... I am running dual display and cannot place icons on the secound display... Been looking around forums and found nothing so far. Any one know about this??
[03:01] <stdin> bobleny: that would be encryption, not permissions
[03:01] <Draxer> Hey all... I am running dual display and cannot place icons on the secound display... Been looking around forums and found nothing so far. Any one know about this??
[03:01] <Draxer> Good morning! :)
[03:01] <Cuddles_in_KY> question. there are updates waiting according to adept-updater, but if i select any of them, i get a ''break'' warning. any way to fix this?
[03:01] <chepenguin> hi i need help how dou you apt-get throuhg a proxy?
[03:02] <stdin> Cuddles_in_KY: yeah, it's a known issue, just sit tight for now
[03:02] <bobleny> Well, I was told permissions could do what I want. root will still be able to access it, but no one else can...
[03:02] <Cuddles_in_KY> stdin, that's all i needed to know, thanks.
[03:02] <stdin> bobleny: if you want them to put in a pass, then they'll need to use sudo
[03:02] <ForgeAus> does linux have IPX networking?
[03:03] <stdin> !ipx
[03:03] <ubotu> ipx: utilities to configure the kernel ipx interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.6-3 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 172 kB
[03:03] <stdin> seems so :)
[03:03] <ForgeAus> um whats the packages name?
[03:03] <ForgeAus> ipx?
[03:03] <stdin> I think it's ipx
[03:03] <Lynoure> bobleny: and if you let them use sudo, be careful to configure it, or they can remove that limitation and wreck havok in addition
[03:04] <ForgeAus> erm thats not it
[03:04] <ForgeAus> according to adept ipx is a package that provides yahoo messenger support for jabber
[03:05] <stdin> huh? apt-cache show ipx shows this http://pastebin.ca/345399
[03:05] <Knightlust> my apologies to all, but I need to ask permission... may I post an off-topic link since, i guess, it concerns us too
[03:06] <ForgeAus> hmmm that looks good
[03:06] <stdin> maybe #kubuntu-offtopic would be a better place, Knightlust
[03:07] <ForgeAus> the pastebin does... so whys myadept showing the wrong package?
[03:07] <Knightlust> oh yeah, i forgot about that channel, thanks stdin
[03:07] <ForgeAus> ahh fixed
[03:07] <keb> anyone knows how can i have glibc2.4 on ubuntu?
[03:08] <keb> if i'm correct libc6 contains the same elements for ubuntu than glibc for other dists
[03:09] <bobleny> Stdin, I'm really the only user for this computer, but sometimes my friends and family use this computer when they come over. As a result, I only have one account on the machine, mine. I am the only person who know's the password to get into my account or become root. I would like to place my sensitive files in a folder under "/home/bob/Top Secret", where in order to open the folder you need to type in the root password. Can I not do this with permision
[03:09] <ForgeAus> its bigger than glibc2.4 on kubuntu
[03:09] <ForgeAus> its like 2.8.2 or somethng
[03:10] <yogi> Sombody... please!  Cron will run EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR APT job! :-(
[03:10] <keb> i cannot install any glibc for ubuntu
[03:10] <stdin> bobleny: not if they are using your user account, the only way is with encryption
[03:10] <bobleny> OK, thanks.
[03:11] <yogi> bye, then...  :-\ lol
[03:12] <ForgeAus> keb thats because you probably already have it
[03:12] <ForgeAus> its likely to be provided by another package
[03:12] <parkerw207> can you get itunes for linux?
[03:13] <bobleny> Thanks again bye.
[03:14] <keb> Forgeaus `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /home/keb/progz/mangos/bin/realmd)
[03:14] <keb> sry for little a..
[03:15] <stdin> parkerw207: no, at least not native
[03:16] <parkerw207> stdin : ooo it ok i dont need it
[03:16] <elcuco> hi, i am getting 3 updates in adpet, but i canot install them (linux-image*). whats wrong? anyone else seeing this?
[03:16] <parkerw207> ye[
[03:16] <parkerw207> i get 4
[03:16] <darkserver3> hi there!!!
[03:16] <stdin> elcuco: yeah, it's a known issue, just sit tight for now
[03:17] <parkerw207> what does it mean by break ?
[03:17] <parkerw207> stdin that was for you :P
[03:17] <elcuco> stdin: where can i read about this? any newsletter of something?
[03:17] <darkserver3> hey... in unix how can i go back to my last system configuration
[03:17] <parkerw207> stdin: when i request instal it says in red letter , break
[03:17] <stdin> elcuco: you can't, because we only just found it :P
[03:17] <elcuco> ok.
[03:18] <stdin> parkerw207: it's because the dependencies aren't available
[03:18] <keb> parkerw207 i found maybe solution for that, check sources.list if it has any repos with edgy at the end
[03:20] <keb> i have now problems only with
[03:20] <keb> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[03:20] <keb> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[03:20] <keb> some of these cannot be accessed, now everything else works
[03:20] <keb> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[03:20] <keb> check here
[03:21] <keb> look for sources.list in searching
[03:21] <stdin> that's for dapper, not edgy
[03:21] <keb> yes
[03:21] <keb> oops, if he has edgy, he has to check the edgy part
[03:22] <keb> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy for edgy
[03:22] <parkerw207> stdin : how do i do that
[03:23] <stdin> parkerw207: do what ?
[03:23] <keb> hm.. for example sudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:24] <keb> and replace ur sources.list with that on the page
[03:25] <stdin> or just use source-o-matic
[03:25] <stdin> !source-o-matic
[03:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:25] <keb> even with dapper?
[03:26] <stdin> works will all versions
[03:26] <parkerw207> stdin : check the file
[03:28] <stdin> looks ok
[03:35] <Mena> JUCATO, if i was updating and i had a packedge kept back   how to update
[03:35] <keb> ehh.. when i upgrade to edgy, will it make me much trouble?
[03:36] <Jucato> Mena: if it's saying something like linux-headers or linux-image being held back, you'll have to wait for a while. still being fixed
[03:37] <Mena> JUCATO, yes i had those linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[03:37] <Jucato> Mena: yes, you'll have to wait... they're still fixing that
[03:37] <Mena> JUCATO, ok
[03:38] <soulrider> hey Jucato
[03:38] <soulrider> whats up
[03:38] <Jucato> not much :)
[03:39] <keb> is it troublesome to ugrade from dapper to edgy?
[03:40] <ForgeAus> !ies4linux
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ies4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Jucato> ForgeAus: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[03:42] <ForgeAus> thanx someone from wineh1 wanted it
[03:42] <ForgeAus> grrr hq
[03:43] <keb> ehh.. when i upgrade to edgy, will it make me much trouble?
[03:45] <arphetic> No, I heard it wont
[03:50] <slyfox> Does anyone here runs latest Kubuntu Feisty ?
[03:52] <Jucato> !feisty | slyfox
[03:52] <ubotu> slyfox: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:53] <slyfox> Jucato: It is just that because of my problem I think I have to reinstall Kubuntu, and I though maybe get the latest Feisty alpha if it is stable for basic applicaitons
[03:53] <slyfox> Jucato: that is the problem http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621303#post2621303
[03:53] <Jucato> slyfox: depends on what you would consider "stable" and "basic". better ask in #ubuntu+1 about Feisty's status
[03:57] <raeez>  can somebody tell me how stop my kde from crashing (from xgl - using an ati card) whenever i press shift-backspace?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> slyfox, why not just stick with edgy ...you'll spend alot less time trying configure your hardware etc , that you already have setup ...the "if it ain't broke don't fix it " philosphy :)
[03:58] <slyfox> BluesKaj: If you can please help me: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621303#post2621303
[03:59] <keb> BluesKaj, is it against this "policy" to ugrade to edgy from dapper?
[03:59] <keb> ^^
[03:59] <chavo> raeez, run this xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace" on KDE startup
[04:01] <raeez> chavo thanks, is there any way to make that permanent?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> no keb , it's your choice , but if yer a noob who has a difficult time with edgy , upgrading to fiesty is more difficult still
[04:01] <keb> i'm a noob ^^
[04:02] <chavo> raeez, put it in a script, put the script in ~/.kde/Autostart then chmod +x it
[04:02] <keb> but i need glibc2.4 to run something
[04:02] <slyfox> BluesKaj: any ideas?
[04:02] <parkerw207> i am off cya x
[04:02] <Jucato> it's not the upgrade itself that is difficult. feisty isn't in a state where it's recommended for stable day to day use
[04:02] <parkerw207> oops
[04:02] <parkerw207> hehe
[04:02] <raeez> chavo, does the script have to have an extension (im not too savvy with scripts :( )
[04:03] <chavo> no, just put #!/bin/bash on first line then the other command
[04:03] <chavo> you can name it whatever i just named mine xmodmap
[04:04] <moneo_> hi, for some reason pressing delete in firefox doesn't go back in history by one on my fresh install of kubuntu 6.10, how can I change this back to normal?
[04:04] <soulrider> hi
[04:04] <soulrider> has anyone here ever used gimpShop ?
[04:04] <chavo> soulrider, long time ago yes
[04:04] <soulrider> chavo: how is it >?
[04:04] <raeez> can photoshop be run from linux with wine?
[04:05] <soulrider> raeez: id rather not
[04:05] <chavo> well all it does is rearrange the menus and make the shortcuts to be like phototshop
[04:05] <moneo_> raeez, yep.
[04:05] <raeez> soulrider: i use it professionally.... :(
[04:05] <raeez> why not? If i may ask?
[04:05] <raeez> compatibility?
[04:05] <chavo> I've never been a photoshop user anyway so it didn't interest me
[04:05] <moneo_> raeez, It works fine under wine
[04:05] <soulrider> yeah, i heard not everything works
[04:06] <soulrider> it does?
[04:06] <chavo> raeez, 7 is the latest version that works reliably in wine
[04:06] <moneo_> well no, you may have to tweak this and that
[04:06] <BluesKaj> !recofigure X | slyfox
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recofigure x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <BluesKaj> slyfox,
[04:06] <soulrider> !xorg | slyfox
[04:06] <ubotu> slyfox: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:06] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:07] <moneo_> BluesKaj, Was that to me?
[04:07] <slyfox> BluesKaj: ok, let me do it now
[04:07] <moneo_> oh nvm.
[04:07] <BluesKaj> no moneo_
[04:07] <slyfox> BluesKaj: reconfigure it and then reintsall video driver again?
[04:07] <jay> I got my drivers partially working (8.3.2)... fglrx fails to load though bcoz the system deletes fglrx.ko from /lib/modules/$(uname -r) when fglrx is blacklisted. If I copy it back there and restart the server, fglrx loads nicely. I've tried depmod -ae after copying the file and restarting GDM. that doesn't work
[04:07] <BluesKaj> no just reconfig X ,
[04:08] <slyfox> BluesKaj: problem with this is that I do not know the asnwers to all the questions. FOr example I have nvidia, what should I choose for my X driver? vesa or vga or what?
[04:09] <BluesKaj> vesa
[04:09] <slyfox> BluesKaj: there are also choices of nvidia and nv   maybe these?
[04:09] <BluesKaj> yes slyfox
[04:11] <slyfox> BluesKaj: use kernel framebuffer device interface ?
[04:11] <kai> can some tell me where to get Macromedia Support?
[04:12] <slyfox> kai: ubuntuforums.org ?
[04:13] <kai> does it even work 100%
[04:13] <Skrot> Flash?
[04:13] <kai> I tried it and I was unable to go to the halo3 site
[04:13] <kai> yea
[04:13] <yotux> has anyone ever used mozilla llighting?
[04:13] <Skrot> kai: URL for the site?
[04:13] <kai> www.halo3.com
[04:14] <Skrot> kai: Works here. You've probably got flash 7
[04:14] <Skrot> !flash9
[04:14] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:14] <cntb> !migrate
[04:14] <kai> is there something more I need to do inorder to get it work other than install it
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about migrate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Skrot> There's not really a lot of info on that page though, kai
[04:14] <cntb> !find migrate
[04:15] <ubotu> File migrate found in xen-utils-3.0
[04:15] <kai> there should be a flas animation that doens't pop up on my box
[04:15] <Skrot> kai: Just a button redirecting to http://halo3.com/index2.html
[04:15] <kai> wel there was one
[04:16] <kai> Is there anything I can for streaming movie from YouTube or anything like that?
[04:16] <stdin> YouTube uses flash
[04:16] <kai> well the thing I can't stream anything
[04:16] <Skrot> kai: You need to enable dapper-backports or edgy-backports (whichever one of them you use), and install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:16] <eriklo> !flash
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:16] <cntb> !initramfs
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <cntb> !mkinitramfs
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkinitramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <kai> Like Y! there strreaming video, and it never loads for me
[04:17] <cntb> where were the instructions for migrating image of ubuntu installation
[04:17] <cntb> !hardware
[04:17] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:17] <yotux> kai -> what are you trying to view on yahoo
[04:18] <kai> just the videos
[04:18] <yotux> music ?
[04:18] <kai> I do have the flas player nonfree plugin
[04:18] <kai> Like it has Y! news videos
[04:19] <Skrot> kai: I think you need to update it if you've got version 7.
[04:19] <yotux> I've never tired that.  yahoo used java to link to there WMV powered videos I believe
[04:19] <ByronFortescue> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:19] <kai> update what?
[04:19] <Skrot> kai: update flash
[04:19] <Skrot> Do what ByronFortescue said and make sure you've got backports enabled
[04:19] <Skrot> !backports
[04:19] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:20] <kai> Well I have the latest flash
[04:21] <Jucato> !flash9
[04:21] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:21] <kai> Argh
[04:21] <stdin> kai: check what "about:plugins" says in firefox
[04:21] <kai> Yea, I will, I just wanted some guidance on that
[04:21] <kai> I have to go to work :(
[04:21] <kai> Thanx for all your help tho
[04:21] <danychouinard> hello. my adept updater tells me that some  package have updates available but I cannot install them.  what does that mean?
[04:22] <ByronFortescue> Does it state why you cannot install them?
[04:22] <Jucato> danychouinard: there's currently a problem with that. try to ignore it will they're fixing it :)
[04:22] <Jucato> presuming the held back packages are linux-headers- or linux-image-
[04:22] <danychouinard> thks
[04:22] <danychouinard> that is right.
[04:23] <yeniklasor> hello
[04:23] <danychouinard> and I'm having issues with my nx6125 laptop was hoping they would fixed my shutting down lockup.  I guess i'll have to wait ;)
[04:24] <yeniklasor> My sound blaster live sound card don't work with kubuntu
[04:24] <yeniklasor> Anyone know how to solve
[04:24] <ForgeAus> ymm I just met another unmet edgy dependancy
[04:24] <ByronFortescue> !soundblaster
[04:24] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[04:24] <ForgeAus> linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic
[04:25] <magical_trevsky> if I use rm to delete a symlink, it'll delete the symlink, rather than all the stuff the symlink links to, right?
[04:25] <yeniklasor> OK I'm checking
[04:25] <ByronFortescue> yes
[04:26] <ForgeAus> so linux-*-generic / modules says it breaks
[04:26] <stdin> ForgeAus: yeah, it's all the 2.6.17-11 kernel stuff
[04:26] <stdin> (except meta packages)
[04:26] <stdin> which is the problem
[04:29] <pfein> any EVDO / usbserial users around?
[04:30] <Danker> Hi
[04:30] <Danker> How should i recover file which i have NOW deleted?
[04:30] <karmikaze> hey whats the command that gets available updated packages? cos apt-get update isnt making my little task bar icon go away
[04:31] <karmikaze> how did you delete it Danker?
[04:31] <Danker> In KDE bypassing trash bin
[04:31] <karmikaze> gone
[04:31] <Danker> Delete command
[04:31] <karmikaze> you can check the hidden files in the directory with konqueror
[04:31] <karmikaze> see if it was salvaged
[04:31] <karmikaze> but kinda doubtful as you used delete
[04:32] <Danker> What about dd command?
[04:32] <karmikaze> dunno  what dd is
[04:33] <ByronFortescue> karmikaze: first do apt-get update, then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:33] <stdin> once you delete a file from an ext3 filesystem, it's really difficult to get it back, sometimes impossible
[04:33] <Danker> even with dd?
[04:33] <karmikaze> cheers ByronFortescue
[04:35] <caris_mere> if I start my computer when not connected to the network, I have to restart the computer to access internet once I do connect
[04:35] <karmikaze> caris_mere: wifi or ethernet?
[04:35] <stdin> Danker: what part of the disk are you going to dd ? do you know the location the file was stored on the disk?
[04:35] <karmikaze> and you shouldnt have to
[04:35] <caris_mere> karmikaze: ethernet
[04:35] <Danker> I know there is only a way of recovering files with dd
[04:36] <Danker> Dont know how :)
[04:36] <karmikaze> i dunno how ubuntu does it but i used to do /etc/init.d/eth0 restart
[04:36] <Danker> its a home partition :)
[04:36] <mbhappy> karmikaze: apt-get dist-updgrade won't work i'm guessing the 2 packages are linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:36] <karmikaze> dunno what ubuntu does instead of that
[04:36] <karmikaze> hrm dunno mbhappy
[04:36] <mbhappy> there seems to be a problem on the repositories
[04:36] <karmikaze> lemme see what its doing
[04:36] <caris_mere> karmikaze: thanks
[04:37] <stdin> Danker: you'd have to grep for a part of the file you deleted from the disk then find it's location, then dd that part of the disk in to a file, that's assuming that the file is in one piece, or you'll have to grep for the other parts and append the to the file
[04:37] <karmikaze> nrrr my adept_updater doesnt work with my http_proxy ENV variable
[04:37] <mbhappy> linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 on my 2 pcs here both require kernel 2.6.15-28-386 but the latest showing on the repositores is 2.6.15.27
[04:37] <mbhappy> so they cannot upgrade
[04:37] <stdin> caris_mere: it's "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart"
[04:38] <karmikaze> yeah its the headers etc
[04:38] <karmikaze> youre right mbhappy
[04:38] <stdin> mbhappy: yeah, it's a known issue, just sit tight for now, it's being fixed
[04:38] <mbhappy> cheers :D
[04:38] <karmikaze> how do you get adept to work on a proxy?
[04:38] <Danker> Could you show command i should i use google?
[04:38] <stdin> mbhappy: ignore me :)
[04:38] <karmikaze> it doesnt like the env variable
[04:38] <caris_mere> stdin: thanks, it was nothing big, but nice to have "fixed"
[04:39] <karmikaze> brb
[04:41] <stdin> Danker: I've never done it, so I don't know the exact commands, but just google for "recover OR undelete files ext3", and see http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html#undelete
[04:41] <eddie> hey all! I was just wondering if there is a linux equivalent of virtual pc?
[04:42] <munk3h> Anyone here had trouble with Tomboy not displaying it's tray icon?
[04:43] <stdin> eddie: you have a few choices, qemu, vmware, VirtualBox
[04:43] <eddie> cool thanks
[04:43] <stdin> !qemu
[04:43] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[04:43] <stdin> !vmware
[04:43] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[04:43] <stdin> !VirtualBox
[04:43] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[04:44] <stdin> gotta love that bot :)
[04:44] <stdin> !botsnack
[04:44] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:46] <karmikaze> bk!
[04:48] <crazy_penguin> Hello to all!
[04:48] <stdin> Danker: found this, it may help http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/30/1652211
[04:49] <munk3h> Anyone here know why #xubuntu is full of people but no one answers
[04:49] <Danker> thanks
[04:50] <OnMeriteMieux> lol?
[04:56] <yeniklasor> I couldn't work my sound blaster sound card :(
[04:56] <danychouinard> munk3h, I guess its because they run slower computer   lol
[04:57] <munk3h> hehe
[04:57] <munk3h> danychouinard: you use Tombiy?
[04:57] <munk3h> *Tomboy
[04:57] <yeniklasor> system is showing my onboard and creative 5.1 card but my 5.1 card don't have sound
[04:58] <danychouinard> guess not, i don't know what it s
[04:58] <yeniklasor> is there any configuration?
[04:58] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:58] <yeniklasor> hi
[04:58] <munk3h> oh. It's a mono applet that gives you sticky notes. But it works a bit like a wiki too
[04:58] <ubuntu_> is xorg.conf from dapper livecd usable in edgy?
[04:59] <ubuntu_> i only want to copy settings about my monitor
[04:59] <danychouinard> munk3h, and it add todo item to the evolution.  doesn't seems bad
[04:59] <stdin> ubuntu_: sure, it doesn't really change much from version to version
[05:00] <ubuntu_> stdin: if i only copy to edgy xorg.conf monitor part will i be able to change resolution?
[05:00] <munk3h> danychouinard: My problem is when I start it, the tray icon doesn't appear in xfce. I found a bug filed for similar problem in kubuntu.
[05:01] <stdin> ubuntu_: yeah, as long as the name of the monitor is the same, or you can just reconfigure the server and make a new xorg.conf
[05:01] <ubuntu_> well monitor is same but is enough to do sudo dkpg --reconfigure xorg.cong ?
[05:01] <andy> how easy can I switch between normal ubuntu and kubuntu?
[05:02] <andy> can I have them both paralell running and just selecting whichever I like?
[05:02] <munk3h> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I think
[05:02] <timster> Very, they just use differnt windows managagers
[05:02] <yeniklasor> OMG ubuntu dont work with my sound card :(
[05:02] <stdin> ubuntu_: i would use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[05:03] <slyfox_> is there an expert here, I really need one to help me with this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621303#post2621303
[05:03] <tier1972> hey ihr buben meine radeon mobility funktioniert! danke fr den vesa tipp!!!
[05:03] <stdin> !de
[05:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:03] <ubuntu_> stdin:  and this will also install my ati card drivers?
[05:03] <tier1972> jetzt luft sogar fglrx unter 1280x800
[05:03] <tier1972> ihr seit die besten :-)))
[05:04] <stdin> ubuntu_: if you mean the binary drivers, then no, you'll have to install them if you want it
[05:04] <ubuntu_> stdin: flgrx or wat is that called i mean
[05:04] <stdin> !ati
[05:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:04] <munk3h> andy:It's just a matter of logging out and changing your session.
[05:04] <ubuntu_> cause on i dapper i had them installed by default
[05:04] <andy> munk3h, ok :)
[05:04] <munk3h> andy: after it's installed that is
[05:05] <stdin> ubuntu_: you would have the open source driver, but not the binary one
[05:05] <munk3h> Then when you login it'll ask you if you want KDE to be your default. Then it's up to you how you go from there
[05:05] <andy> munk3h, ok :) I guess beryl and xgl isnt dependant on kde or gnome, is it?
[05:05] <AHinMaine> slyfox: so do what is your current kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:06] <dognews> how can I install qt 4.2.2 on edgy?
[05:06] <munk3h> I'm not sure how these things will behave. I have aiglx and beryl availabe to me in gnome, and I also use xubuntu-desktop. It's not given me any problems
[05:07] <stdin> dognews: maybe, if you compiled it, but it's not exactly reccommended
[05:08] <stdin> andy: xgl is just a replacement to the X server, works with any environment, and beryl is just a window manager, it also works on any environment
[05:08] <munk3h> andy: I'm off now. Hope you like kde
[05:08] <dognews> stdin: there are no official packages somewhere?
[05:09] <stdin> dognews: no, it's still being developed, you'll have to get the svn version
[05:11] <ubuntu_> stdin: so should i install binary ones or OSS ?
[05:11] <TowerClimber> Has anyone worked with the dual head setup of feisty fawn?
[05:12] <stdin> ubuntu_: you only need the binary ones if you need dri or xgl
[05:12] <stdin> TowerClimber: #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask
[05:12] <TowerClimber> thanks
[05:12] <ubuntu_> stdin: well  is ati radeon 9600 pro 128 mb capable of running xgl without problems?
[05:13] <geek_> some geman here that knows about kismet and a hawking usb wifi dish?
[05:13] <Jucato> !de
[05:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:13] <geek_> thank u very much muchos gracias :D
[05:14] <stdin> ubuntu_: don't know, I don't have an ati card, but you can always try and see
[05:14] <ubuntu_> stdin: hmm and how do i install oss drivers?
[05:14] <AHinMaine> ubunt_: there's some good docs on the beryl project site for getting it going...  http://www.beryl-project.org/
[05:15] <stdin> ubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:17] <senza_nick> salve
[05:19] <geek_> someone here that use
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[05:19] <geek_> [09:08]  <stdin> andy: xgl is just a replacement to the X server, works with any environment, and beryl is just a window manager, it also works on any environment
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[05:19] <geek_> someone here that uses haeking usb dish ?
[05:19] <geek_> hawking ?
[05:20] <geek_> okay thanks i have to go know ..
[05:25] <Daniwan> Can anyone help me, I'm trying to install drivers for a webcam.  It's a Xirlink / IBM / Veo cam.  From everything I've read it's supposed to already be supported as pnp by the kernel.  When I plug it in KInfo recognizes there is a "USB IMAGING DEVICE" plugged in and has some of the details defined...  But no matter what program I try to use it in I get nothing
[05:26] <sampan> need some advice on an automatic update.  says 6 packages are upgradable, including the kernel but if i select 3 of them (including the kernel) for upgrade, it says "BREAK"
[05:26] <stdin> Daniwan: had a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras ?
[05:27] <jetsaredim> is there any way to find out why a given package will not upgrade
[05:27] <ubuntu_> stdin: if i copz settings also for GPU from dapper lie to edgy will OSS drivers be enabled?
[05:27] <stdin> sampan: yeah, it's a known problem, it's being worked on now, just sit tight for now
[05:28] <sampan> stdin  okay.  i'm in no rush on that.
[05:28] <jetsaredim> there are kernel updates listed as being new, but they report as being broken if I mark them to install
[05:28] <stdin> ubuntu_: if you want the binary driver, you have to install it first, then change the xorg.conf
[05:28] <sampan> i do have another problem though, my edgy install keeps locking up on me.  twice it happened while trying to delete files on an external (USB) drive. and twice just trying to come out of the screen saver
[05:29] <stdin> jetsaredim: it's being fixed now
[05:29] <sampan> both times i can't even get to a virtual terminal, so it's locked up bad
[05:29] <jetsaredim> ?
[05:29] <sampan> errr, all four times
[05:30] <stdin> jetsaredim: the issue with the updates, it's being fixed now
[05:30] <jetsaredim> o ok - so its not just me
[05:30] <stdin> no, you're only about the 15th person to ask tho :P
[05:31] <jetsaredim> ah
[05:31] <Jucato> stdin: be prepared. more to come :)
[05:31] <ubuntu_> wat issue with updates?
[05:31] <parkerw207> Hey does anyone know how i donwload mono?
[05:31] <j__> anyone use Korn?
[05:31] <LjL> !mono
[05:31] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[05:32] <stdin> Jucato: I'm thinking of making a script to post a "being fixed" message :P
[05:32] <Jucato> stdin: Command Aliases :)
[05:32] <stdin> yep :)
[05:32] <Jucato> I'm making one tomorrow if the problem doesn't disappear...
[05:33] <stdin> I think it's bug #83976
[05:33] <jetsaredim> where would I look for such things in the future
[05:34] <Jucato> jetsaredim: here... or in the forums...
[05:34] <j__> I use Korn with e-mail but it's friggin slow
[05:34] <j__> I mean G-mail
[05:34] <Jucato> wherever there are people around to gossip :)
[05:34] <timster> A
[05:34] <ByronFortescue> J___: what is slow, the application or the mailing?
[05:35] <j__> ByronFortescue: well, right now I'm trying to delete 10 messages and it has taken at least 60secs already
[05:35] <j__> now at 80%
[05:35] <timster> :)
[05:35] <ubuntu_> wat is a best media player? mplayer vlc kaffeine or totem?
[05:36] <intelikey> !best
[05:36] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:36] <j__> plus there are 2 progress bars and the other one just says 0%
[05:36] <ByronFortescue> ubuntu_: MPLAYEER!!!
[05:36] <ByronFortescue> rocks
[05:36] <intelikey> vlc
[05:36] <j__> now it finished
[05:36] <nojoints> how do i turn off so the screen wont go black after X-minutes?
[05:36] <ubuntu_> ok  i dont want to srart a flame i heard that vlc and mplayer can play windows formats without havings installed w32 codecs?
[05:37] <ByronFortescue> j___: hmm,, sounds like a crappy program then
[05:37] <j__> ubuntu_: I'd say VLC is teh bestest
[05:37] <pituka> amarok does not start anymore - does that sound familiar to anyone?
[05:37] <j__> ByronFortescue: I don't think it has been really developed since 2004
[05:37] <andy> munk3h, ok :) I guess beryl and xgl isnt dependant on kde or gnome, is it?
[05:37] <ByronFortescue> !korn
[05:37] <ubotu> korn: KDE mail checker. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 167 kB, installed size 616 kB
[05:37] <andy> sorry, I was afk and cant read the message anymore
[05:37] <Jucato> stdin: looks like you're right on the bug https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976
[05:38] <intelikey> ubuntu_ vlc can  i would think mplayer would have some abilities there too.   but  !freemormats
[05:38] <intelikey> !freeformats
[05:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <j__> there might be something wrong with my Gmail settings aswell
[05:38] <stdin> Jucato: saw something about it in the ubuntu-devel topic
[05:38] <intelikey> Jucato stdin i just got here, what bug ?
[05:38] <^Aftermath^> Kubuntu's not installing for me, I've gotten to the partitioning and left it on overnight, but nothing happened.
[05:38] <dromer> hi, how can I make startupscripts/launch programs on startup in kde?
[05:39] <Jucato> intelikey: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976
[05:39] <shinigami> how do i know my sound card is under /dev where?
[05:39] <parkerw207> stdin : is it possible to write vb.net code in linux ?
[05:39] <j__> VLC has a bit of a strange interface though
[05:39] <nojoints> anyone knows how to get rid of it?
[05:39] <j__> but it plays DVDs with subtitles which I appreciate
[05:40] <stdin> intelikey: on edgy there are broken deps on the kernel meta packages, 2.6.17-11 is what they want, but they aren't in the repos
[05:40] <LjL> !edgykernel
[05:40] <j__> though subtitle positioning doesn't work aswell as in BSplayer for example, if it works at all
[05:40] <ubotu> There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[05:40] <intelikey> noted.
[05:40] <matthew__> hello.  I'm getting confused by a shell problem.  I thought you could set things in the environment for the following command by something like "AB=hello <command>" and <command> would have $AB as an environment variable set to "hello".  kdevelop assumes this as well.  But it doesn't work for me - kubuntu edgy
[05:40] <stdin> parkerw207: not a clue
[05:41] <parkerw207> stdin ok then thanks!
[05:41] <twosouls82> hello :)
[05:41] <AHinMaine> matthew: if you want it to stick, and you're using bash, do "export AB=hello"
[05:41] <shinigami> pen /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[05:41] <shinigami> how do i know my sound card is under /dev where?
[05:42] <stdin> parkerw207: google time :P
[05:42] <matthew__> AHinMaine: thanks - yes, I know that works, but I can't get kdevelop to do that - its fixed behaviour is to assume that the other method works: "AB=hello echo $AB" should return "hello" but doesn't
[05:43] <j__> "There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient." is this why I have 3 upgradeable packages in Adept updater...
[05:43] <AHinMaine> matthew: sorry, never used kdevelop to write shell scripts.
[05:43] <j__> ... that if I try to install them it says "BREAK" with red text?
[05:43] <ByronFortescue> lol
[05:43] <twosouls82> how can I tell from _what_ repo a updated package comes?
[05:44] <intelikey> stdin that's dapper and edgy.
[05:44] <parkerw207> can anyone tell me how to use wine?
[05:44] <Skrot> apt-cache plicy packagename
[05:44] <Skrot> policy*
[05:44] <ByronFortescue> !wine
[05:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:44] <matthew__> AHinMaine: I'm not writing shell scripts with it - it's how it passes parameters in the build process, for example CPPFLAGS.  It issues a command like CPPFLAGS="whatever" configure
[05:44] <parkerw207> ok thanks
[05:44] <^Aftermath^> [11:38]  <^Aftermath^> Kubuntu's not installing for me, I've gotten to the partitioning and left it on overnight, but nothing happened.
[05:44] <matthew__> Perhaps I should ask the kdevelop ppl about it
[05:44] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, was just reading the actual bug report :P
[05:44] <twosouls82> ByronFortescue: http://wiki.oldos.org/Linux/WineHowTo for the basics
[05:45] <twosouls82> hmm, nevermind
[05:45] <twosouls82> page has changed since
[05:45] <ByronFortescue> twosouls82: tell parkerw207 :)
[05:45] <twosouls82> :)
[05:45] <jetsaredim> is there any way to install the newer kernel packages that are in feisty (2.6.20)
[05:45] <j__> After, sure there arent some buttons to push?
[05:45] <twosouls82> ByronFortescue: :\ my bad ;)
[05:45] <j__> the Kubuntu installer is confusing though
[05:45] <ubuntu_> the default kernel for edgy is 2.6.17-generic?
[05:45] <^Aftermath^> j__:  I clicked continue, and It's still spinning
[05:46] <stdin> ubuntu_: yeah, edgy is on 2.6.17
[05:46] <intelikey> ubuntu_ yes   for 32 bit pc's
[05:46] <ByronFortescue> ^Aftermath: maybe a broken cd?
[05:46] <^Aftermath^> I did the cd check
[05:46] <stdin> jetsaredim: yeah, install feisty
[05:46] <AHinMaine> matthew:  oooh...  sorry, gotcha.    in that case, you can probably set those variables on the commandline and then launch kdevelop from your cli prompt?  just a guess.
[05:46] <j__> I couldn't make it do what I wanted, ended up having to use Gparted to enable the volume I originally wanted to install Kubuntu to
[05:46] <ubuntu_> stdin:  i have in updates same kernel version but for x86_64 why is that>
[05:46] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:47] <ByronFortescue> yeah, the partitioning in the installer is a bit, well, strange
[05:47] <matthew__> AHInMaine - yes, that would work around it, thanks - but of course it bypasses all the configuration within kdevelop.  I'll ask them about it.  Thanks again :o)
[05:47] <ByronFortescue> doesn't give a clear view on what you are doing really..
[05:47] <intelikey> ubuntu_ uname -a
[05:48] <ubuntu_> intelikey: ???
[05:48] <intelikey> type that i a terminal
[05:48] <intelikey> in
[05:48] <ubuntu_> kdevelop is for feisty or kde 3.5.6 ?
[05:48] <ubuntu_> intelikey:  wat will it do?
[05:48] <denn> hi intelikey :) hey everyone
[05:49] <intelikey> nothing .    never mind.
[05:49] <intelikey> denn shalom
[05:49] <denn> anyone seen genii recently? like in the past week?
[05:49] <^Aftermath^> I'm gonna try "Manually edit the partition table."
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah, yesterday.
[05:49] <intelikey> !seen genii
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen genii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <denn> ok, great...was wondering if he'd dropped out of sight for a bit
[05:49] <ByronFortescue> ^Aftermath^: good idea
[05:50] <intelikey> figures a boot that has no eyes.
[05:50] <intelikey> bot
[05:50] <^Aftermath^> How do I view running processes?
[05:50] <LjL> ps aux
[05:51] <LjL> or press ctrl+esc
[05:51] <^Aftermath^> thanks
[05:51] <intelikey> ^Aftermath^ ps ax
[05:52] <Jimzilla> hello all.
[05:53] <ByronFortescue> ello jimzilla
[05:54] <Jimzilla> im havin a bit of an odd problem im hopin someone in here might be able to help me with it lol.
[05:54] <stdin> ask away
[05:54] <intelikey> i'll help you lol at it....
[05:54] <jetsaredim> stdin: I would install feisty, but I couldn't get everything working
[05:55] <stdin> jetsaredim: you could get the source from the repos and compile it
[05:55] <sorush20> hi guys
[05:56] <sorush20> I keep getting the error that a font.os is missing on start x
[05:57] <stdin> sorush20: got the exact error message ?
[05:58] <intelikey> better yet is it causing any problems ?
[05:58] <tuxi> hi
[05:58] <^Aftermath^> Installer: "You're committing all changes. Warning: You can lost data!"
[05:59] <tuxi> where can i find mencoder is there a package for it?
[05:59] <stdin> !mencoder
[05:59] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[05:59] <intelikey> multiverse
[05:59] <stdin> tuxi: it the multiverse repository
[05:59] <stdin> !repos
[05:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:59] <tuxi> ah k thx
[05:59] <intelikey> !multiverse
[06:00] <Jimzilla> K, I've got a kubuntu box that i've been running freeradius/mysql and dns on for several months.
[06:00] <ubuntu> hello
[06:00] <ubuntu> hey
[06:00] <Lam_> adept updater is sitting in the corner telling me that i can upgrade my kernel and related packages, but that it'll cause breakage. is there a safe way to upgrade?
[06:00] <stdin> intelikey: !repos and !multivers give thesame info
[06:00] <wimpies>  hi all, In 1.4.5 I want to listen to shoutcast streams. Some report that they cannot play because of missing codec but on myother PC with 1.4.5 they can play.  SO I must be missing something.  can anybody give me some hint on what needs to be installed to play these streams ?
[06:00] <stdin> Lam_: It's a known problem, it's being fixed now, just sit tight
[06:00] <Lam_> stdin: ok thanks
[06:00] <sasha> :) nice, ubuntu
[06:00] <intelikey> stdin i see that.  they didn't used too
[06:00] <sasha> i am kubuntu
[06:01] <sasha> very russian kubuntu
[06:01] <ubuntu> hey guys i have a question>>> is there any complete system maintanance for linux?
[06:01] <stdin> intelikey: heh, looks like my script is working tho :)
[06:01] <Jimzilla> yesterday morning it went down hard with the mysql errno 28 no space left on device so i looked around a bit and noticed var was gettin pretty large
[06:02] <stdin> Jimzilla: probably /var/log, if it is, then you can just delete the logs in there
[06:02] <intelikey> ubuntu can you define "omplete system maintanance " please ?
[06:03] <PupenoR> Is there some generalized brokeness in updating the kernel in (K)ubuntu, or is it just my box?
[06:03] <ubuntu> i mean ... a cleaner ...
[06:03] <stdin> PupenoR: It's a known problem, it's being fixed now, just sit tight
[06:03] <Jimzilla> so went in and cleaned out some old logs and such, all came back up fine and its running ok for now but the df and du are reporting different filesystem usage in a big way.
[06:03] <intelikey> ubuntu is you penguin dirty or what ?
[06:03] <sasha> ubuntu based debian, ubuntu
[06:03] <intelikey> ubuntu i don't understand what you want
[06:04] <sorush20> what irc program can I use from the terminal?
[06:04] <intelikey> !ru | sasha
[06:04] <PupenoR> stdin: ok. Thanks.
[06:04] <ubotu> sasha:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:04] <ubuntu> hahahahaha .... yeah .. u se im new to linux and all .. i was wondering if there is some kind of a cleaner .. that could clean temp files and registries
[06:05] <Tm_T> ubuntu: What registry?
[06:05] <stdin> ubuntu: linux doesn't have a registry
[06:05] <sorush20> ubuntu linux dosen't have those
[06:05] <sasha> intelikey hey
[06:05] <intelikey> yeah what regestry
[06:05] <xenol> ubuntu:  no registry in windows
[06:05] <xenol> linux*
[06:05] <sasha> lol
[06:05] <stdin> ubuntu: and temp files are usually cleaned when you boot
[06:06] <sorush20> what program can I use to chat in irc from command line?
[06:06] <Tm_T> sorush20: irssi
[06:06] <stdin> irssi rules
[06:06] <Jimzilla> df shows 89% usage with 15 of 17 gigs used of / whereas du -hc --max-depth=1 only shows 3.1 gigs used.
[06:06] <doug__> sorush20 ircII
[06:06] <sasha> stdin,yes
[06:06] <intelikey> ubuntu you can set prowsers to clear their cache when they exit  if that's what you're on about.
[06:06] <ubuntu> oww okay .... so i dont need any of those progs?  another thing guys .. i know linux is virus free .. but is there an anti virus .. or a firewall for linux?
[06:06] <sorush20> the II has to be part of the command line?
[06:06] <intelikey> browsers
[06:06] <Tm_T> ubuntu: Both exists yes.
[06:06] <^Aftermath^> [12:06]  <ubuntu> oww okay .... so i dont need any of those progs?  another thing guys .. i know linux is virus free .. but is there an anti virus .. or a firewall for linux?"
[06:07] <Tm_T> ubuntu: Firestarter is easy firewall GUI
[06:07] <sasha> ubuntu, iptables
[06:07] <sasha> and antivirus Clamav
[06:07] <stdin> ubuntu: firewall is built in, you just need a GUI
[06:07] <stdin> !firewall
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:07] <intelikey> ubuntu firestarter is a configureation app for iptables
[06:07] <stdin> !antivirus
[06:07] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[06:08] <^Aftermath^> !linuxvirus
[06:08] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:08] <ubuntu> thank you soo much
[06:09] <intelikey> ubuntu not a problem.  when you ask smart questions you get better answers.
[06:09] <Guard] [an> hello, with kubuntu would you recommend compiz or beryl ?
[06:09] <stdin> beryl
[06:09] <sasha> intelikey, :P
[06:09] <Tm_T> Whatever works better in your system.
[06:09] <Tm_T> IIRC both are bit "hit or miss"
[06:10] <tuxi> btw. is there a good guide for installing "avm wlan stick" under edgy
[06:10] <stdin> compiz can be a (word for femail dog here) to setup
[06:10] <stdin> (on kde)
[06:10] <ubuntu> Okay here is teh thing tho .... i have been running kubuntu for the past two weeks .. but my question is ... do i really need to type in codes .. my friend uses ubuntu and he types in codes all teh time .. i didnt type a sigle code so far .. is there anything im missing?
[06:10] <Guard] [an> stdin: isn't beryl slower than compiz and less stable ?
[06:10] <sorush20> hi I keep getting the message that /var/lib/dpkg/available is missing and dpkg returned error code 2
[06:11] <Tm_T> ubuntu: Well, you can use GUI (mouse clicking) or commandline, whichever suits to you.
[06:11] <intelikey> ubuntu define "code" please ?
[06:11] <stdin> ubuntu: no, some people (like me) find the console easier and faster to use than the GUI, but you just use what you like best
[06:11] <Tm_T> intelikey: Commandline, youngs aren't familiar to DOS etc. ;)
[06:11] <Tm_T> intelikey: It's hilarious how all typing are "coding" for these. :)
[06:11] <stdin> Guard] [an: no, they share most of their code, the only reason beryl is less "stable" is that, in this case "stable" means "unchanging"
[06:11] <intelikey> Tm_T lot of assumption there.
[06:12] <^Aftermath^> Java doesn't seem to be working properly, does the OS have to be installed from the disc or shiould I just reinstall Java?
[06:12] <Tm_T> intelikey: Yes, bad generalisation, intented.
[06:12] <intelikey> k
[06:12] <stdin> !java
[06:12] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:12] <intelikey> !cli | ubuntu
[06:12] <ubotu> ubuntu: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:13] <Jimzilla> any ideas on what might cause filesystem usage reporting from df and du to differ drastically?
[06:13] <intelikey> Jimzilla trash can ?
[06:14] <Jimzilla> empty
[06:14] <stdin> sorush20: try running "sudo apt-get update"
[06:15] <intelikey> anyone know the gnome-terminal key to switch tabs ?  with konsole it's shift+L/R   ?
[06:15] <xenol> why i cant see / partition when i enter it? i see only home and media there any ideas?
[06:15] <Guard] [an> stdin: also kde's pager and taskbar need to be patched :/
[06:15] <Guard] [an> stdin: i mean for compiz or beryl usage
[06:15] <Tm_T> intelikey: Doesn't have settings/help for that? (can't remember but something bad it was)
[06:15] <ubuntu> tnaks guys .. well im really sorry to ask so many questions but im a noob on this so i hope u bare with me
[06:16] <intelikey> Tm_T k
[06:16] <Tm_T> ubuntu: We are here to help and ask ourself too. ;)
[06:16] <intelikey> !hiden | xenol
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hiden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <stdin> Guard] [an: yeah, but that's a kde problem, probably be fixed in kde4
[06:16] <Tm_T> intelikey: I think it was alt+number or so.
[06:16] <sasha> ubuntu, ))
[06:16] <Guard] [an> stdin: which is far from being out :)
[06:16] <xenol> intelikey:  how can i unhide it?
[06:16] <stdin> !hidden | xenol
[06:16] <ubotu> xenol: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:16] <intelikey> Tm_T bingo
[06:16] <Tm_T> intelikey: Think that with irssi. ;)
[06:17] <intelikey> screen too
[06:17] <intelikey> no ?
[06:17] <stdin> Guard] [an: according to the KDE guys, it'll be mid 2007 ish, iirc
[06:17] <ubuntu> my sound card isnt working properly either im using a laptop and im not sure what soundcard i have on it
[06:17] <intelikey> i don't use screen but i think that was the key/s
[06:17] <intelikey> !sound | ubuntu
[06:17] <ubotu> ubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:17] <ubuntu> how can i find out my specs... and look for the right driver
[06:18] <Tm_T> intelikey: ctrl is used by screen mostly IIRC
[06:18] <timster> !Players
[06:18] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:19] <xenol> stdin: how can i unhide them? so i dont have to see them as hidden i discovered em with Show hidden files in konqueror menu
[06:19] <stdin> xenol: follow the link ubotu gave you, it tells you how
[06:19] <crube> what is gij-4.1? It's taking up to 90% of system resources all the time and my computer is slooow
[06:20] <stdin> !gij-4.1
[06:20] <ubotu> gij-4.1: The GNU Java bytecode interpreter. In component main, is optional. Version 4.1.1-14ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 112 kB
[06:20] <stdin> got java apps running?
[06:20] <ubuntu> it is enabled ..... ubotu .. but when i play an mp3 file it just doesnt play ...
[06:21] <crube> stdin: Yeah. Azureus. So that's what it is. I thought it could be the one causing the slowdowns but it didnt seem to take any resources itself, so thought it was something else
[06:21] <ubuntu> it tells me Amorak currently cannot play MP3 files!!!
[06:21] <Gretl> !restricted
[06:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:22] <stdin> ubuntu: you need to install mp3 support
[06:22] <stdin> ubuntu: which can't be included by default because of legal reasons
[06:23] <ubuntu> oww okay .. how do install it?
[06:23] <Gretl> crube use ktorrent is much quicker now without the java
[06:23] <stdin> ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[06:23] <sampan> what do i look at to find the cause of complete lockups (edgy)?
[06:24] <ubuntu> thx stdin
[06:24] <stdin> :)
[06:24] <sampan> four lockups in 2-3 weeks is really starting to get distressing and i'd love to find the cause (dapper ran for nearly 200 days straight without an issue)
[06:24] <crube> Gretl:  Yeah I have used it, but it lacks one thing. In Azureus it downloads the files to a certain folders, and when they're finished it moves them to where ever I want. In ktorrent the finished and unifinished files are all mixed up in the folder I download them
[06:25] <xenol> r sbin lib32 lib64 hidden in dapper?
[06:26] <stdin> no, just edgy
[06:26] <xenol> well but does dapper have lib32 and lib64 ?
[06:27] <stdin> on 64bit installs, yeah
[06:27] <xenol> i have 32bit install
[06:27] <ubuntu> Stdin .. is there a similar fix for video files?
[06:28] <xenol> stdin: also srv is in dapper?
[06:28] <Gretl> crube: it has a path for the temp files ( the unfinished) and a path for the finished downloads
[06:28] <stdin> ubuntu: you probably want w32codecs
[06:28] <stdin> ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[06:28] <stdin> xenol: yeah, they all have /srv
[06:28] <ubuntu> oh man how can i repay you . thank you so muchhh
[06:28] <Gretl> !restricted
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <crube> Gretl:  It does? Well I seem to have missed it then. Goodbye Azureus!
[06:29] <stdin> ubuntu: with money :P (joke)
[06:29] <sasha> ubuntu, install EasyUbuntu
[06:29] <stdin> no, don't, ubuntu
[06:29] <ubuntu> sasha whats easyubuntu!!
[06:29] <xenol> stdin:  so i should unhide all except lib32 lib64 and emul?
[06:29] <Gretl> crube: yap me switched too from azereus
[06:29] <intelikey> !easyubuntu
[06:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:30] <stdin> xenol: you can unhide whatever you want, it only affects konqueror
[06:30] <xenol> stdin:  i want to have same folders as in dapper :S
[06:31] <crube> Yo
[06:31] <sasha> ubuntu, you may uses http://ubuntuguide.org/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Edgy&redirect=no
[06:32] <intelikey> anynoe know what runs when you klick   kmenu > switch users > start new session ?
[06:32] <xenol> !paste
[06:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <stdin> easyubuntu isn't reccommended or supported tho, so use it at your own risk!
[06:33] <ubuntu> oww so u recommend i use easy ubuntu for automated fixation?
[06:33] <ubuntu> ill install and see what i can do with it
[06:33] <ubuntu> thanks
[06:33] <xenol> can anyone tell me why when i sudo kate /.hidden shows this in terminal? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4735/
[06:34] <stdin> !baddevice | xenol
[06:34] <ubotu> xenol: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:34] <sasha> ubuntu :)
[06:34] <xenol> !resore
[06:34] <stdin> xenol: and you want kdesu. not sudo
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <xenol> !restore
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <stdin> !kdesu | xenol
[06:34] <ubotu> xenol: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:35] <xenol> how can i restore backup plx? :X
[06:35] <stdin> a backup of what?
[06:36] <intelikey> xenol yeah  "connection to ":0.0" refused by server"   you can first "xhost +LOCAL: "   and then run your command.
[06:36] <stdin> intelikey: that was because of sudo
[06:37] <xenol> stdin:  plz how do i restore file from backup?
[06:37] <stdin> a backup of what?
[06:37] <xenol> .hidden
[06:37] <xenol> wanna learn it
[06:37] <ubuntu> :) hey by the way is there anything similar to itunes running on linux????
[06:37] <stdin> whay's the backup called? .hidden~ ?
[06:38] <xenol> yes it it .hidden~
[06:38] <stdin> !itumes
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itumes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <stdin> !itunes
[06:38] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[06:38] <intelikey> mv .hidden~ .hidden
[06:38] <stdin> helps if you spell it right
[06:38] <stdin> xenol: ^^
[06:38] <ubuntu> !players
[06:38] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:39] <stdin> ubuntu: if you just want to be able to sync you ipod and manage it, you can use amarok
[06:40] <xenol> i dont understand
[06:41] <xenol> why is FS hidden in edgz
[06:41] <ubuntu> thx
[06:41] <stdin> Ubotu, tell xenol about hidden | xenol, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:42] <xenol> :D thx
[06:42] <stdin> :)
[06:43] <ubuntu> is here some kind of a manual for kubuntu? i mean hw o manage it istead of comming here and asking questions .. i know i can do it .. without bothering you guys ...
[06:43] <waylandbill> there's a wiki
[06:43] <Gretl> kde menu help
[06:45] <ubuntu> take care guys ....... thank you soo much for your help .. ill be back sometime later on today ......
[06:45] <linopil> \o
[06:45] <gnunez> hola
[06:45] <ninHer> hi all
[06:45] <Gretl> ninHer: hi
[06:46] <linopil> brought PC to my client and  X wont go up
[06:46] <ninHer> hi Gretl
[06:46] <linopil> what is my safe bet in xorg.conf
[06:47] <Reggy> wie kann mann den  chet  wecheseln [06:47] <eeos> hi there.
[06:47] <eeos> Any clue about a good video editing software on kubuntu that can edit free codec as ogg?
[06:47] <Reggy> ?????????
[06:47] <waylandbill> linopil: vesa should be pretty conservative driver to try.
[06:47] <Tm_T> Reggy: English here.
[06:48] <gnunez> holaa
[06:48] <Reggy> i will other kanal
[06:48] <surgy> !realplay
[06:48] <xenol> !BACKUP
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:49] <hatta> realplay is actually pretty nice on linux
[06:49] <Tm_T> !de > Reggy
[06:49] <hatta> I was pleasantly surprised
[06:49] <surgy> hatta: i cant find the package realplay...... does it have another name?
[06:49] <eeos> hatta  what is realpaly?
[06:49] <waylandbill> real player I imagine
[06:50] <ninHer> lol
[06:50] <hatta> surgy, try realplayer
[06:50] <surgy> eeos: its an embeded video engine for your browser
[06:50] <ninHer> i guess so
[06:50] <hatta> that's what it's called in debian
[06:50] <ninHer> have you tried vlc ?
[06:50] <ninHer> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[06:50] <eeos> hatta i do not have it on kubuntu
[06:50] <stdin> !helix-player
[06:50] <ubotu> helix-player: the helix audio and video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (edgy), package size 3966 kB, installed size 10184 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc)
[06:50] <surgy> i have vlc, but i need realplay to embed videos into my browser
[06:51] <stdin> realplayer = helix-player
[06:51] <Tm_T> stdin: Well, realplayer is Helix (opensource) + closed stuff IIRC
[06:51] <stdin> yaeh
[06:52] <knubbe> Hello, I've attached my mobile phone to my computer via usb. How do i see which port (/dev..) the phone is connected to?
[06:52] <stdin> tho I think realplayer is available in the commercial repos
[06:52] <knubbe> dmesg does not tell me this :(
[06:52] <linopil> no screens found on X
[06:52] <waylandbill> with youtube and like ones, I've not seen any video in real format in a long time.
[06:52] <linopil> now from CLI irssi
[06:52] <stdin> knubbe: in konsole, type "mount"
[06:53] <ninHer> gvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[06:53] <ninHer> sorry all.....the cata
[06:53] <ninHer> cat
[06:53] <knubbe> stdin: thats it?
[06:53] <waylandbill> I was thinking someone's animal was atk
[06:53] <stdin> knubbe: it will show you what device is mounted where
[06:53] <surgy> knuble: use system settings >> filesystems and disks ?
[06:54] <waylandbill> linopil: did you try the vesa driver (with a known good resolution of course) ?
[06:54] <knubbe> stdin & surgy: but that shows me the phone's info and not the memory card in the phone?
[06:54] <knubbe> im not trying to mount the memory card, im trying to connect via gprs
[06:55] <xenol> !commands
[06:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:55] <knubbe> and in GPRS Easy Connect i have to choose which port the phone is connected to, but i dont know which one it is
[06:56] <surgy> knubble, i understand the question, you need to know the port address of the usb port its plugged into
[06:57] <knubbe> surgy: correct! those were the words i was looking for.
[06:57] <knubbe> maybe i can find this in the syslog.
[06:57] <surgy> knubble: but thats all i know
[06:58] <knubbe> surgy: ok. ill reboot back into kubuntu and try again.
[06:58] <knubbe> stdin & surgy: thanks!
[06:59] <surgy> np
[07:00] <surgy> new nvidia drivers just came out?
[07:00] <joaospinto> hello guys
[07:00] <joaospinto> is kubuntu cool?
[07:00] <surgy> hi
[07:01] <intelikey> joaospinto no.
[07:01] <waylandbill> it's linux.. of course it's cool. ;-P
[07:01] <stdin> is kubuntu cool, well yes, yes it is
[07:01] <surgy> joaospinto: its the unrivaled os to beat all others why do you ask?
[07:01] <surgy> j/k lol
[07:01] <joaospinto> i am going to install linux on this computer
[07:01] <intelikey> joaospinto no.  linux is cool.  kubuntu is just the flavour of the month
[07:01] <joaospinto> but i am not sure fi i am going to install kubuntu or not
[07:01] <stdin> boo > intelikey
[07:02] <intelikey> joaospinto don't   it's not worth it.
[07:02] <joaospinto> i am looking for a prety, FAST, and frequently-updated (and easy to use) distro
[07:02] <joaospinto> ha ha ha
[07:02] <joaospinto> lol
[07:02] <surgy> joaospinto: you should shop around and see which distro is best for your needs, kubuntu was easiest for me to learn becuase the ui has many features that winxp has
[07:02] <intelikey> well if you want frequently-updated ubuntu is for you then.
[07:02] <stdin> joaospinto: there is a brand spanking new version out every 6 months
[07:03] <joaospinto> but i came here to ask if there is any way to install linux from windows (without having to burn a cd)
[07:03] <surgy> joaospinto: kubuntu fits your discription perfect, its very fast, stable, easy to use, and gets updates sometimes twice a week, im getting one now
[07:03] <intelikey> joaospinto yes but not an easy way.
[07:03] <joaospinto> intelikey is there a step-by-step way?
[07:04] <joaospinto> well
[07:04] <intelikey> cigwin and vmware provide ways to run linux within windows envs..
[07:04] <stdin> joaospinto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[07:04] <joaospinto> is the cd worth the thing?
[07:04] <joaospinto> ok
[07:04] <joaospinto> :p
[07:04] <waylandbill> if you're new to linux... burn a cd.
[07:04] <DjDarkman> what`s the problem with apt ,it always says that I have 3 updates of linux kernel  ,but when I make it update them ,it doesn`t do it?
[07:04] <joaospinto> lol
[07:04] <surgy> joaospinto: kubuntu has a live cd burn the cd image to a cd while your in windows, put the cd in your cd rom and restart, you can play with kubuntu without actually installing it :)
[07:04] <joaospinto> there is an automatic thing
[07:04] <Gretl> cd is always nice if a serious problem comes up
[07:04] <stdin> DjDarkman: It's a known problem, it's being fixed now, just sit tight
[07:04] <joaospinto> yes yes
[07:04] <joaospinto> i know what a live cd is
[07:04] <DjDarkman> ok
[07:04] <intelikey> joaospinto that's not a joke.  "<waylandbill> if you're new to linux... burn a cd."  <<< do it.
[07:04] <joaospinto> and i am not new either to linux or live cds
[07:05] <joaospinto> intelikey there is an automatic process for that
[07:05] <joaospinto> is it difficult?
[07:05] <surgy> your asking very "noob type questions" to not be new
[07:05] <joaospinto> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/instlux
[07:05] <surgy> joaospinto: k3b has alll the things nero has and then a few
[07:05] <Gretl> joaospinto: a cd is not too expensive
[07:06] <joaospinto> yes, but i dont have much of those :P
[07:06] <surgy> you can get 10 of them at the doller general for 3$
[07:06] <joaospinto> yes yes
[07:06] <intelikey> band-width/(narrowness) can be an issue though.
[07:06] <joaospinto> ok
[07:06] <joaospinto> tk for your help
[07:07] <waylandbill> intelikey: it's always that lack of it that gets ya. :-)
[07:07] <intelikey> bandNarrowness
[07:08] <intelikey> i have plenty of that.
[07:08] <pituka> dudes, what can i do if amarok suddenly decides only to work with ROOT rights?!?
[07:08] <intelikey> own your home.
[07:08] <joaospinto> sorry i forgot to ask something
[07:08] <intelikey> sudo chown `whoami` ~ -R
[07:08] <surgy> well with kubuntu bandwidth isnt even a problem.......i mean dam you can order a free cd without ANY charges..... bypases the whole bandwidth problem
[07:08] <joaospinto> before i start the setup of kubuntu, shall i create partitions with partition magic?
[07:09] <surgy> joaospinto: kubuntu setup has its own partitioning tools
[07:09] <stdin> joaospinto: no, the installer will do that for you
[07:09] <joaospinto> ok
[07:09] <pituka> joaospinto: yes if you plan to use Windows AND linux
[07:09] <joaospinto> :)
[07:09] <joaospinto> yes
[07:09] <joaospinto> i plan to use windows and linux
[07:09] <waylandbill> joaospinto: if you read the installer can do it.
[07:09] <stdin> no, the install will do if you you, even if you have windoes
[07:09] <intelikey> joaospinto might be good to make some free unpartitioned space tho
[07:09] <pituka> joaospinto: you need a fat32 partition for your files
[07:09] <joaospinto> ok
[07:09] <surgy> pituka: even then you dont need to use a third party partitioner
[07:09] <joaospinto> yes
[07:09] <joaospinto> pituka
[07:09] <waylandbill> read everything it tells you is my advice.
[07:09] <joaospinto> i have one partition with files
[07:10] <joaospinto> an other one with windows
[07:10] <pituka> joaospinto: so if your files are on a fat32 (NOT NTFS) then everything is fine for your files
[07:10] <intelikey> joaospinto you do know that linux doesn't live in M$ space without scba gear
[07:11] <joaospinto> i am afraid they are on a NFTS partition
[07:11] <joaospinto> doesnt linux have nfts support
[07:11] <waylandbill> ntfs is read only atm. writing is buggy and dangerous
[07:11] <pituka> joaospinto: you cannot WRITE to NTFS from windows - just read :(
[07:11] <stdin> !ntfs-.g
[07:11] <intelikey> linux doesn't live in any M$ space without scba
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-.g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <stdin> !ntfs-3g
[07:11] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:11] <joaospinto> ok sorry im too noob
[07:11] <joaospinto> lol
[07:12] <joaospinto> if i can only read, how can i save files there? theres no logic on that
[07:12] <surgy> joaospinto: yes ntfs read support is native to kubuntu, but you dont want to install kubuntu on an ntfs you want to convert it to ext3 first
[07:12] <angasule> !ntfs
[07:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:12] <waylandbill> there are ext2 tools for windows though, so the opposite direction is ok.
[07:12] <joaospinto> well
[07:12] <joaospinto> so
[07:12] <joaospinto> should i copy the files to a FAT32 partition?
[07:12] <stdin> !ext3
[07:12] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:12] <waylandbill> ty stdin. :)
[07:12] <surgy> joaospinto: the idea is to copy paste everything onto your ext3 partition and get an ext3 read/write toold for windows, thats the easy way
[07:12] <joaospinto> hmm
[07:13] <joaospinto> is ext3 "better" that FAT32?
[07:13] <intelikey> is a pc better than counting on your fingures ?
[07:13] <surgy> joaospinto: ext3 is == to ntfs so yes its better than F32
[07:13] <waylandbill> I'd say yes.
[07:14] <Chousuke> surgy: it's not "=="
[07:14] <intelikey> ext3 != ntfs
[07:14] <surgy> its not a true journaling filesystem right?
[07:14] <intelikey> apples and bananas
[07:15] <pituka> anyone knows why amarok doesnt start up anymore?
[07:15] <pituka> it just  doesn't start. as root it runns perfectly
[07:15] <intelikey> compare them all you want they will never be  ==
[07:15] <stdin> ext3 = ext2 + journal
[07:15] <joaospinto> yes
[07:15] <Chousuke> ntfs is something else entirely.
[07:15] <joaospinto> and dos the fs-driver work with ext3?
[07:15] <intelikey> pituka i told you.  sudo chown `whoami` ~ -R
[07:15] <joaospinto> or only ext2
[07:15] <Chousuke> it has ACLs and some really advanced stuff
[07:16] <waylandbill> joaospinto: both
[07:16] <joaospinto> okay
[07:16] <joaospinto> so
[07:16] <joaospinto> shall i transfer my files to an ext3 parittion?
[07:16] <Chousuke> windows' fs driver?
[07:16] <joaospinto> y
[07:16] <Chousuke> it will mount ext3 drives as ext2
[07:16] <stdin> !ext3 | Chousuke
[07:16] <ubotu> Chousuke: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:16] <stdin> ^^
[07:16] <Chousuke> so yes, it woeks, but not completely.
[07:16] <surgy> Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg
[07:16] <surgy>   Could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com'
[07:16] <Chousuke> stdin: I know this.
[07:16] <surgy> when i sudo apt-get update
[07:17] <intelikey> joaospinto i think that it ignores the journal so basically ext2  but that is hardly relevent.  you can mount ext3 as ext2 under linux anyway.
[07:17] <joaospinto> yes
[07:17] <stdin> Chousuke: when you said "windows' fs driver", I thought you didn't
[07:17] <surgy> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com'
[07:17] <joaospinto> but in which type of partiiton shall i copy the files to
[07:17] <joaospinto> Ext2, Ext3 or FAT32?
[07:17] <joaospinto> you told me not to leave it in NTFS
[07:17] <intelikey> surgy it's a known bug.  i think you'll find it in the bug reports.
[07:18] <intelikey> oh wait. i misread that surgy
[07:18] <surgy> intelikey, ok ill look, but off the top of your head, do you know the fix?
[07:18] <stdin> joaospinto: for most cros-compatibility, go with fat32
[07:18] <surgy> intelikey, it failed to load some index files
[07:18] <Chousuke> remember that FAT32 doesn't work with big files.
[07:18] <Chousuke> so if you have DVD isos, it's automatically out of the question.
[07:18] <intelikey> sorry i misread you thought you said upgrade.  there is a present issue because of a bug on that.
[07:19] <joaospinto> whats the largest file that fat32 can deal with
[07:19] <waylandbill> 2GB
[07:19] <Chousuke> joaospinto: about 2GB or something
[07:19] <surgy> intelikey: so i should ignore adepts nagging about updates are available?
[07:19] <intelikey> surgy yes looking.
[07:19] <stdin> Chousuke: 4GB
[07:19] <eeos> how do you convert a ogg file (video) into a div file (video)?
[07:20] <surgy> ext3 supports up to 2 TB right?
[07:20] <joaospinto> well, so im afraid fat32 wont work because it is my downloads folder
[07:20] <joaospinto> :x
[07:20] <intelikey> surgy i can wget the file just fine.  it could be a dns problem ?
[07:20] <stdin> joaospinto: that's 4GB per file
[07:20] <intelikey> surgy try a wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/Release.gpg
[07:20] <MrBallZ> hi, I'm having a problem, I was trying to play a .flv video and well I was able to do it after many attempts with different video players, the problem is that now when I turn the computer and log in , I get an error saying someting about " octect mime type" and i get like 15 small windows ... how can I know what's the thing causing that problem ...
[07:20] <manu_> hi i wanted to make a backup with rdiff-backup on a usb harddisk and i get an error i worked allready with the programm but not on usb disks
[07:20] <joaospinto> stdin the limit of fat32 is 4gb per file?
[07:21] <stdin> joaospinto: yeah
[07:21] <joaospinto> ok
[07:21] <joaospinto> then it is cool i think
[07:21] <surgy> intelikey:
[07:21] <surgy> 100%[[07:21] <surgy> 12:21:03 (30.36 MB/s) - `Release.gpg' saved [191/191] 
[07:21] <waylandbill> joaospinto: I wouldn't move any data yet. See if the linux distro does what you want first then go from there. Then you can always burn the data for safe keeping
[07:21] <joaospinto> but will it be a big difference if it is ext2/3?
[07:21] <intelikey> so if     sudo apt-get update    fails then what other errors do you see ?
[07:22] <intelikey> or did you forget to sudo it ?
[07:22] <surgy> let me get you a pastebin
[07:22] <surgy> no it was sudo
[07:22] <joaospinto> .............
[07:22] <eeos> how do you convert a ogg file (video) into a div file (video)?
[07:23] <surgy> http://www.pastebin.ca/345641
[07:23] <waylandbill> joaospinto: no. it will end up being ext2 even if you format it ext3. It just won't have a journal is all.
[07:23] <joaospinto> yes yes
[07:23] <sorush20> what size should I set my partitions to..
[07:23] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[07:23] <joaospinto> but is there a big difference if i write the file drive in Ext2 instead of NTFS?
[07:23] <joaospinto> FAT32*
[07:23] <joaospinto> not ntfs
[07:23] <sorush20> i want to have boot root and var and usr, dose the usr have to be the biggest?
[07:23] <surgy> sorsh20: how much do you want to use == how big the hdd part needs to be - 2gb
[07:24] <ubuntu> i need some help
[07:24] <Chousuke> joaospinto: ext2 is a real filesystem :P
[07:24] <joaospinto> ok
[07:24] <waylandbill> joaospinto: yes, most noticable is the file size limitation.
[07:24] <joaospinto> ok
[07:24] <sorush20> surgy: I have a home partitions which is very big but my boot partition gets corrupted sometimes and I have to reinstall every thing..
[07:24] <joaospinto> what is the ext2 file size limit
[07:24] <sorush20> I want to prevent this from happening..
[07:24] <sorush20> can grub load xfs
[07:25] <Chousuke> let me see.
[07:25] <surgy> sorush20: is it your boot partition or your fstab?
[07:25] <ubuntu> I need to mount hdd in kubuntu loaded from cd
[07:25] <Chousuke> 2 TB
[07:25] <manu_> here
[07:25] <Chousuke> should be enough.
[07:25] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/21616
[07:25] <stdin> joaospinto: same as ext3 2TB
[07:25] <waylandbill> sorush20: if it's just boot, mount readonly.
[07:25] <intelikey> surgy try the update again...
[07:25] <manu_> and the problem is i canceled the process but the disk is working and writing
[07:25] <surgy> intelikey, thats weird huh?
[07:25] <ubuntu> is it possible to do that?
[07:26] <stdin> ubuntu: yeah
[07:26] <intelikey> yeah surgy  it's a dns issue but i'm thinking a server reset ???
[07:26] <surgy> intelikey: ok the update went through fine but adept notifier is still saying i have three files needing to be updated
[07:26] <ubuntu> stdin: can you help me to do this?
[07:26] <stdin> ubuntu: do you know what your device is? ie hda1 etc...
[07:26] <stdin> surgy: It's a known problem, it's being fixed now, just sit tight
[07:26] <surgy> intelikey: dns issue server side and not my side right?
[07:26] <intelikey> surgy ok   sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:27] <surgy> stdin: kewl
[07:27] <ubuntu> using fdisk -l I see it is hda1
[07:27] <intelikey> surgy yeah like the server was down at that moment.
[07:27] <surgy> The following packages have been kept back:
[07:27] <surgy>   linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:27] <surgy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[07:27] <dromer> hi, how can I make startupscripts/launch programs on startup in kde?
[07:27] <ubuntu> stdin: using fdisk -l I see it is hda1
[07:27] <intelikey> surgy ok   that's the bug i first mentioned.
[07:27] <surgy> ill just chill for a bit tille the servers get sparkled :)
[07:28] <stdin> ubuntu: ok, open up konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole) and type "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt", you can then get to it in /mnt
[07:28] <intelikey> ignore until tomarrow.
[07:28] <surgy> intelikey, but before this happened it looked like i got a new version of the nvidia video drivers..... is there one out?
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: envy?
[07:29] <surgy> ?
[07:29] <intelikey> probably.  i don't do propritary krap...
[07:29] <dromer> how can I make thunderbird start on desktop 4 of my kde after boot?
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> then no, not what i'm thinking about
[07:29] <ubuntu> stdin: thanks very much
[07:29] <stdin> ubuntu: no problem :)
[07:29] <underdog5004> hey wow, they just released the 2.7.17-11 generic kernel...
[07:29] <dromer> intelikey: you on nv then?
[07:29] <underdog5004> or, at least, made it available in the repos
[07:30] <intelikey> dromer yes
[07:30] <dromer> intelikey: why do you prefer that one if I may ask ;)
[07:30] <MrBallZ> in my list of processes I have this one:  kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-user1/klauncherBaHaha.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-user1/kdesktopkwz5qa.slave-socket  , can this be the cause why I get many error windows right after I log into kde ???
[07:30] <eeos> intelikey because the scree capturing tool creates a ogg file but the video editing tool uses dvi :)
[07:30] <intelikey> underdog5004 warning*  .(odd number). kernel == unstable.
[07:30] <underdog5004> dromer, right-click on thunderbird's bar at the top, then do advanced=>Special Application settings
[07:30] <surgy> intelikey: i will go back to nv when it has full 3d acceleration
[07:30] <crube> Can anyone check the default "Folder to store temporary files" in Ktorrent?
[07:31] <underdog5004> intelikey, hmm, that's weird...it was an automatic update through adept...are you sure the odd/even rule still applies?
[07:31] <crube> I accidently blanked it, and I want it back
[07:31] <surgy> does anyone know any good sound editing programs for linux that are >= sonar or >= cool edit pro?
[07:31] <intelikey> eeos ok.   can you not adjust the screen capture to save as something else ?
[07:31] <eeos> do not think so. wait
[07:31] <intelikey> underdog5004 http://kernel.org
[07:32] <stdin> intelikey: Linus says that for 2.6 the odd number rule no longer applys
[07:32] <manu_> IMPORTANT: can someone help rdiffbackup made a msitake, the process dont work but something is writing on my HD, and i have now no permissions to read the disk
[07:32] <intelikey> stdin 2.6 is not odd.  2.7. is odd.  is that what you mean ?
[07:32] <eeos> intelikey not really
[07:33] <intelikey> !mencoder
[07:33] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[07:34] <stdin> intelikey: uh, wait, missread, 2.7... is definitely not stable
[07:34] <intelikey> stdin it may have changed.  but the "standard" for ever has been any version.(odd) unstable   .(even) stable
[07:34] <stdin> crube: /home/UserName/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/
[07:34] <dromer> underdog5004: I have the same options as with advanced=>special window settings
[07:34] <parkerw207_> Bloody weather!
[07:35] <intelikey> it's the first 'sub-version' destinction.  *.<this number>.*
[07:35] <dromer> !gecko
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gecko - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <crube> stdin:  Thanks :)
[07:35] <parkerw207_> My wifi router help going lol
[07:35] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, I'm pretty sure the 2.7 branch is nowhere near stable
[07:35] <parkerw207_> bloody power surges
[07:36] <intelikey> stdin and as soon as they feel it is stable it will become the beginning of the 2.8
[07:37] <stdin> underdog5004: 2.7.17-11? or 2.6.17-11 ?
[07:37] <stdin> intelikey: yeah
[07:38] <stdin> don't even think 2.7 is being developed yet
[07:39] <crube> For some reason whenever I try to add a torrent to kTorrent it says "Error Cannot open [path/filename]  Read only file system". What the heck is this? It has worked before
[07:39] <intelikey> all i went on is the version number given.
[07:39] <stdin> intelikey: same here :P
[07:40] <eeos> intelikey argh! just installed but has so many options that it is unbelievable.
[07:40] <stdin> crube: post the output of "mount" to pastebin
[07:40] <intelikey> eeos that sounds like you might be refering to linux...
[07:40] <intelikey> :)
[07:41] <stdin> linux, where there are a million apps that do exactly the same thing :P
[07:41] <intelikey> actually no two do exactly the same   heh
[07:41] <intelikey> but yeah
[07:41] <stdin> some do, just in slightly different ways
[07:42] <intelikey> then it's not "exactly the same"  :)
[07:42] <stdin> choice is great tho :)
[07:43] <crube> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4741/
[07:43] <stdin> I said they do the same thing, didn't say they don't go about it differently, but hey, that's -ot :)
[07:43] <intelikey> "this is linux where there is no right way, there is your way my way and maybe a better way, but no 'right way'"
[07:43] <eeos> intelikey yes more or less it does apply everywhere. :(
[07:43] <ant1matter> howdy - i just installed kde 3.5.6 from the kde repo - using ubunto edgy. Tried to use gnome for awhile but just couldnt stay away from kde. However my menus are all screwed up and the control center is empty. Ive never seen this happen before. Any ideas?
 linux, where there are a million apps that do exactly the same thing :P
[07:44] <eeos> intelikey there are 5596 man page's lines. argh!!!!
[07:44] <stdin> ant1matter: make sure you are fully up-to-date, there was a bug but the 3.5.6-0ubuntu4 fixes it
[07:45] <ant1matter> stdin: ah ok ill do an update
[07:45] <intelikey> eeos good thing that less has a search feature built in   eh  :)
[07:45] <eeos> intelikey well, if you know what to search for.
[07:45] <intelikey>  /convert
[07:45] <stdin> crube: and "cat /proc/mounts" ?
[07:46] <stdin> "man -k" is useful too
[07:46] <stdin> and, for that matter, man man
[07:47] <crube> stdin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4744/
[07:47] <intelikey> !apropos
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apropos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <eeos> intelikey /convert?
[07:47] <stdin> crube: hmm, strange then
[07:49] <intelikey> heh   "ro,uid=0,gid=46,umask=07"  isn't all the masking worthless on ro
[07:50] <ubuntu> stdin: sorry, could you repeat that commad for hdd mounting again?
[07:50] <parkerw207_> stdin i managed to find out how to keep those dns servers saved
[07:50] <ubuntu> stdin: I'd be very gratefull
[07:50] <stdin> ubuntu: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[07:51] <stdin> parkerw207_: how did you do it
[07:51] <crube> stdin: It started working after i booted my external HD. It's just that it confused me when it said it couldn't write in the folder where it was creating the symlinks on the primary HD
[07:51] <ubuntu> stdin: thank you very very much
[07:52] <stdin> ubuntu: no problem :)
[07:52] <parkerw207_> stdin : went to network settings click on my wifi adapter ---> dns---> add---> done :)
[07:52] <stdin> crube: ahh
[07:52] <stdin> parkerw207_: does it save them over a reboot tho?
[07:52] <intelikey> uparrow.   command history.   tab-compleetion     bash  is good.
[07:53] <stdin> yes, yes it is :)
[07:53] <parkerw207_> stdin - yeah
[07:53] <parkerw207_> looks like it
[07:53] <stdin> nice :)
[07:54] <stdin> I remember using the "prepend domain-name-servers" part in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to do that once
[07:54] <jaims> hi
[07:54] <jaims> one question
[07:55] <parkerw207_> stdin hehe , well at least i have wifi now lol
[07:55] <jaims> adept_updater: 3 packages to update
[07:55] <stdin> yeah :)
[07:55] <stdin> jaims: It's a known problem, it's being fixed now, just sit tight
[07:56] <jaims> oh!
[07:56] <jaims> :)
[07:56] <jaims> so quick answer u gave me
[07:56] <jaims> :)
[07:56] <stdin> it's been a common question today :P
[07:56] <jaims> i thought would be difficult to find
[07:56] <jaims> I see
[07:56] <jaims> :)
[07:56] <parkerw207_> stdin : whats the problem ?
[07:57] <MrBallZ> in my list of processes I have this one:  kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-user1/klauncherBaHaha.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-user1/kdesktopkwz5qa.slave-socket  , can this be the cause why I get many error windows right after I log into kde ???
[07:57] <JuJuBee> If I install a vnc server on a workstation, will it be active during any login session if I have multiple student accounts?
[07:57] <stdin> parkerw207_: if you want some detailed info, have a look at the bug report https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976
[07:58] <parkerw207_> stdin ; thanks !
[07:58] <eeos> thanks intelikey!
[07:58] <jaims> stdin: thanx a lot
[07:58] <jaims> bye all
[07:58] <stdin> MrBallZ: no, I have a similar process running
[07:59] <stdin> bye jaims :)
[07:59] <MrBallZ> stdin: mmm...
[07:59] <MrBallZ> I'm having a problem, I was trying to play a .flv video and well I was able to do it after many attempts with different video players, the problem is that now when I turn the computer and log in , I get an error saying someting about " octect mime type" and i get like 15 small windows ... how can I know what's the thing causing that problem ...
[07:59] <parkerw207_> stdin : dont suppose you have windows knowledge ? my friend has troule with his dns server and need to switch
[08:00] <stdin> MrBallZ: never hared of that before
[08:01] <stdin> parkerw207_: if he used dhcp, then I don't think there is a was to change it on windows. or at least no way I know of
[08:01] <intelikey> MrBallZ you can close every thing "including things in the systray" and log out   that should (on a default system) save a new session and the clean session will be restarted when you login.
[08:01] <parkerw207_> stdin : thanks anyway
[08:02] <intelikey> parkerw207_ /join ##windows
[08:02] <stdin> parkerw207_: there is a windows help channel on irc, if you want to ask there ##windows
[08:02] <tazz> hey i need a little help modifying my /etc/fstab does this look ok to you or am i missing something? /dev/hda1 /media/windows/c vfat (what do i put in the <options> field) ?
[08:02] <stdin> and, because it's funny...
[08:02] <stdin> !windows
[08:02] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:03] <stdin> tazz: put "defaults,auto" and put "0 0" after that
[08:03] <intelikey> tazz "(what do i put in the <options> field) "  fmask=111,dmask=000
[08:03] <stdin> mix & match ^
[08:03] <intelikey> if you want it to be writable for all users
[08:03] <parkerw207_> stdin , its wierd i've only been using kubuntu for a little while and i've forgotten what its like to have windows lol
[08:03] <tazz> what is fmask and dmask intelikey?
[08:04] <intelikey> permissions mask
[08:04] <intelikey> tazz man mount
[08:04] <tazz> oh ok
[08:04] <tazz> parkerw207_: dual boot :-)
[08:04] <intelikey> tazz M$ file systems have no permissions bit.
[08:04] <parkerw207_> tazz > why would i do that lol
[08:05] <stdin> parkerw207_: I've bin using linux as my primary OS for a while, but I get so many people asking me for help on windows (family & friends). I remember most of it
[08:05] <stdin> parkerw207_: wish I didn't tho, I really hate windows :P
[08:05] <parkerw207_> stdin : ooo i work with windows day in day out at college
[08:05] <parkerw207_> does my head in
[08:06] <stdin> parkerw207_: I have to touch win98 and XP every now and then, but that's it
[08:06] <intelikey> uvinercity    hmmm
[08:06] <stdin> windows is soooooooooo slowwwww it's painful
[08:06] <parkerw207_> :O i have to touch the dreaded ! V I S T A
[08:07] <stdin> eww, you're unclean, UNCLEAN I SAY :P
[08:07] <tazz> does the following look ok?
[08:07] <tazz> /dev/hda        /media/windows/c vfat   defaults,auto,fmask=111,dmask=000   0    0
[08:08] <stdin> tazz: looks good, try it out
[08:08] <parkerw207_> stdin : ooo i know :O
[08:08] <parkerw207_> i hate it "
[08:08] <intelikey> stdin hmmm i found windows 9x faster on older hardware than linux with a gui like kde...    only thing slow about them is if they are bogged down with mal-ware
[08:08] <tazz> ok thanks stdin intelikey
[08:09] <starkfist> Going shopping for a wireless laptop card, anyone have a recomendation on a relatively trouble free one?
[08:09] <hatta> kde is a new modern UI, of course it's going to be slow on older hardware
[08:09] <stdin> intelikey: if you disable a load of the effects in KDE, it will run quite well on old systems
[08:09] <hatta> use fluxbox for old hardware, snappy
[08:09] <underdog5004> hatta, or at least, slowER
[08:09] <hatta> sure
[08:09] <underdog5004> Fluxbox...or Joes Window Manager
[08:10] <stdin> starkfist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[08:10] <intelikey> heh and windows used to advertize "fastest windows yet.   and   get more done"   heh only speed improvement was the new hardware they expected you to have.   the os on the same box would always be a little slower than the previous one...
[08:10] <starkfist> Thanks
[08:11] <bomber> in adept i show 2 updates i dont need... the 386 kernel ones... how do i delete them so it dont show as needing updates
[08:11] <underdog5004> intelikey, lol, no changes in the new one, either
[08:12] <bomber> it has a purge option but when i click it it shows removing them... im not sure this will hurt the installation
[08:12] <intelikey> stdin not really...  i do run kde on a p1mmx 100mhz box some.  it's not as fast as win9x on the same box.  and i have noting 'unnessary' in my kde...
[08:12] <intelikey> nothing
[08:12] <stdin> bomber: as long as you have the -generic kernel installed, you'll be fine
[08:12] <bomber> ok thanks
[08:14] <stdin> intelikey: well I suppose the KDE devs put more in to the recent releases, maybe an older kde would run better, having said that, I'd still prefer linux+KDE over win
[08:14] <stdin> :P
[08:14] <parkerw207_> Stdin : can you get googlemail for linux ?
[08:14] <intelikey> stdin in fact. i can load kde on that box and do ps ax and see the whole output on one screen    hehhe
[08:14] <stdin> parkerw207_: google mail is web based, turn pop on in the settings and use your favourite email client, I do :)
[08:14] <intelikey> stdin prefer.   heh no doubt.
[08:15] <harmental> hi everydoby...
[08:15] <parkerw207_> stdin : i meant googletalk
[08:15] <stdin> parkerw207_: kopete works with it
[08:15] <harmental> is there anyway to edit pdfs in linux (other than latex..)?
[08:15] <parkerw207_> stdin : yeah but you cant send files
[08:16] <AHinMaine> parker207, i use gaim with google.
[08:16] <intelikey> reminds me of M$
[08:16] <stdin> parkerw207_: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[08:16] <parkerw207_> how do you use gaim
[08:16] <intelikey> !gaim
[08:16] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[08:16] <AHinMaine> it's just like a regular jabber acct.
[08:17] <andres> COMO REPRODUZCO CANCIONES EN KUBUNTU?
[08:17] <eazevedo> Hi folks!
[08:18] <andres> HEEEYYYYY QUIE RESPONDE?
[08:18] <intelikey> !ve
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <stdin> !es
[08:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:18] <stdin> intelikey: had to look that up on wikipedia :P
[08:19] <andres> THANK'S
[08:19] <stdin> YOU'RE WELCOME
[08:19] <intelikey> !caps
[08:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:19] <andres> OK
[08:20] <dan_> ubuntu is the best
[08:21] <intelikey> what exactly did you compare it too ?
[08:21] <ScarFreewill> dan_: YEAH
[08:21] <stdin> no, Kubuntu is better :P
[08:21] <andres> UBUNTU IS THE BEST? WHY?
[08:21] <stdin> !caps | andres
[08:21] <ubotu> andres: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:21] <intelikey> andres if you want the ops to notice you just keep yelling
[08:22] <stdin> *ubuntu is the best, yeah :)
[08:22] <intelikey> so you mean debian based linux is the best
[08:22] <ScarFreewill> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/LinspirePartnership
[08:22] <stdin> gotta love debian
[08:23] <ScarFreewill> debian don't have that do they?
[08:23] <intelikey> but again i would have to ask what it was compared too
[08:23] <ScarFreewill> windows
[08:23] <ScarFreewill> :{
[08:23] <ScarFreewill> * :P
[08:24] <dan_> nr 1 in 2006 is ubuntu
[08:24] <intelikey> if that's the comparison then   * > windows     no ?
[08:24] <stdin> a pocket calculator is better than windows
[08:24] <parkerw207__> bloody snow!
[08:24] <stdin> more reliable too
[08:24] <ScarFreewill> feisty will come out on my bday
[08:24] <intelikey> ^5
[08:24] <ScarFreewill> ^_^
[08:25] <ScarFreewill> i'm 100 years after hitler :P
[08:25] <MrBallZ> hi, i found more about the former problem I said, when I start konqueror , I get a window saying:  Sorry - Konqueror ,  could not find mime type    aplication / octect-stream  ... what can be the cause of this ?
[08:25] <MrBallZ> and as soon as I close it , konqueror window appears ...
[08:26] <intelikey> yeah and did you close everything and logout like i sujested ?
[08:27] <MrBallZ> intelikey: no , because even If i shut down the system with everything closed, it comes back ...
[08:29] <stdin> MrBallZ: System Settings -> Advanced (if on edgy) -> Session Manager -> Start with an empty session
[08:29] <dan_> linux comparison
[08:30] <intelikey> same thing as closing everything,       and i suspect he's not closing things in the systray    but i could be wrong.
[08:30] <MrBallZ> stdin: will this make for example, kopete, kcheckgmail, skype and those programs not load on startup ...
[08:31] <stdin> yeah, will just be a blank session
[08:31] <intelikey> and if it's in ~/.kde/Autostart   that wont affect it.
[08:31] <stdin> yep 
[08:32] <sorush20> !wpa
[08:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <dan_> where is virus scanner?
[08:33] <intelikey> virus ?
[08:33] <intelikey> what's that ?
[08:33] <dan_> virus scanner
[08:33] <spitwise> heh
[08:33] <intelikey> dan_ for what ?
[08:33] <stdin> virus? what that then?
[08:33] <intelikey> !virus
[08:33] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:33] <Lynoure> dan_: you can install e.ge clamAV to protect Windows users of you Linux mail server to infect each other
[08:34] <dan_> is antivirus
[08:34] <stdin> !antivirus
[08:34] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[08:34] <dan_> :)
[08:34] <stdin> but you don't need one, virus's are windows things that don't bother us linux users
[08:34] <intelikey> so like i said,   for what ?
[08:34] <dan_> you don't have virus scanner?
[08:34] <stdin> me? no
[08:34] <intelikey> no
[08:35] <dan_> :(
[08:35] <dan_> is in ad remove...
[08:35] <intelikey> never needed nor wanted one.
[08:35] <Lynoure> dan_: why a ":("? It is not supposed to be ":)" that one is not needed?
[08:35] <stdin> the thought never even occurred to me to have one :P
[08:35] <dan_> sure?
[08:36] <Lynoure> dan_: If you really really want one, you can get one, but at the moment there are no Linux viruses in the wild, really
[08:36] <intelikey> ad remover ?     where is the ad ?
[08:36] <dan_> in aplication
[08:36] <intelikey> what application ?
[08:37] <stdin> if you want a virus scanner, run windows
[08:37] <Lynoure> dan_: there are an ad blocker plugin for firefox, at least.
[08:37] <dan_> :)
[08:37] <dan_> i have a virus scanner
[08:37] <MrBallZ> could the problem I'm having, be originated by konqueror or some player trying to find that specific file that gave me the error window at the begining ?
[08:37] <DjDarkman> is it safe to replace grub with gfx-grub?
[08:37] <dan_> AEGIS VIRUS SCANNER
[08:37] <stdin> a virus scanner on linux would just be a waste of CPU time :P
[08:37] <ScarFreewill> stdin: how do you make the arrow?
[08:38] <stdin> ScarFreewill: you mean  ?
[08:38] <ScarFreewill> stdin: yes
[08:38] <intelikey> arrows ?
[08:38] <intelikey> looks like questionable eggs to me.
[08:39] <stdin> ScarFreewill: meta-key+Shift+U (meta-key is alt-gr in my case)
[08:39] <dan_> how register a channel here?
[08:39] <casabrasil> hello
[08:39] <intelikey> http://freenode.net
[08:39] <paris> hi
[08:39] <ScarFreewill> i don't know if i have a meta-key :P
[08:39] <casabrasil> how are yours
[08:41] <intelikey> hmmm you know i don't seem to have a meta key
[08:41] <intelikey> but i'm in 'nome   not kde
[08:43] <ScarFreewill> the thing is i'm not sure what i meta key is :P
[08:43] <soulrider> meta key is the windoze key i think
[08:44] <intelikey> generally left-alt
[08:44] <ScarFreewill> i can use the windoze key to pause/play/... amarok
[08:44] <intelikey> errr my other left.
[08:44] <soulrider> yes
[08:44] <soulrider> whata re you guys trying to do witht he meta key ?
[08:44] <stdin> ScarFreewill: no, that's an amarok shortcut
[08:44] <ScarFreewill> ok
[08:45] <stdin> soulrider: make a 
[08:45] <soulrider> :O
[08:45] <soulrider> i dont know how to make one
[08:45] <soulrider> but i guess i can use kcharselect
[08:45] <MrBallZ> Altgr only appears on non english keybard, my spanish kb has it ...
[08:45] <stdin> ScarFreewill: you can set it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[08:46] <intelikey> i can't even copy and paste the darnd things.
[08:46] <ScarFreewill> whats that virual keyboard app?
[08:46] <stdin> you can use any key, including the "logo" keys
[08:46] <ScarFreewill> intelikey: lol
[08:46] <stdin> it's a UTF symbol I think
[08:46] <soulrider> 
[08:47] <ScarFreewill> nice1
[08:47] <soulrider> if i change to spanish i can make the arrow O
[08:47] <stdin> he went thata way:   :P
[08:47] <ScarFreewill> lol
[08:47] <soulrider>  
[08:47] <intelikey> ok you are saying that's arrows.  which way do they point ?
[08:47] <soulrider> 
[08:47] <ScarFreewill> oms
[08:48] <stdin> intelikey:  left,  right,  up,  down
[08:48] <intelikey> what i see is a white egg with a ? in it ?
[08:48] <intelikey> those all look alike
[08:48] <spitwise> i see an empty rectangle
[08:49] <MrBallZ> mmm, can't type them ...
[08:49] <spitwise> off topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_Filesystem
[08:49] <ScarFreewill> i'm installing kcharselect
[08:49] <spitwise> nifty
[08:49] <stdin> Alt-Shift-C in konversation
[08:51] <MrBallZ> could the problem I'm having with the octec-stream, be originated by konqueror or some player trying to find that specific file that gave me the error window at the begining ?
[08:53] <ScarFreewill> 
[08:53] <ScarFreewill>  woot there is so much stuffs lol
[08:54] <intelikey> well i played with fonts and can see those chars  as empty boxes white eggs with ?  white diamonds with ?  and white boxes   just by changing fonts..  but no arrows.   heck i havent even seen the indians yet...
[08:55] <intelikey> 5
[08:55] <ScarFreewill> intelikey: i use Alt-Shift-c and go to table 33
[08:56] <intelikey> Alt-Shift-c doesn't seem to be recognized by bitchx in a gnome-terminal   :)
[08:56] <spitwise> nor by irssi in konsole
[08:56] <intelikey> :)
[08:56] <ScarFreewill> you have to use it in konversation
[08:56] <intelikey> !i
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <intelikey> quiet bot.
[08:57] <ScarFreewill> or just kcharselect app
[08:58] <Danup> how to register a channel?
[08:59] <ScarFreewill> anyways, thx for telling me how to make funny chars night ;)
[09:02] <sorush20> I need help my wpa setup will not work what ever I do.
[09:05] <xenol> plz why i have to enable my connection to inet everytime i log into edgy?
[09:05] <ForgeAus> wow smart is a pretty good Package manager too
[09:06] <ForgeAus> not very KDE-interface wise but design-wise its kde-ish (in a synaptic kinda way)
[09:06] <xenol> sum1 plx
[09:06] <slyfox> Can someone please help - Console login does not work and ctrl+alt+f1 does not work
[09:06] <xenol> well apt-get owns all
[09:07] <ForgeAus> xenol true
[09:07] <ForgeAus> but its kinda manual... I prefer gui ways of doing things
[09:07] <vimagar> hello
[09:07] <vimagar> man.. i've just reinstalled kubuntu
[09:08] <vimagar> i don't know what happened, i was installing drivers for my ATI video card
[09:08] <ForgeAus> and?
[09:08] <vimagar> and when i restarted the machine, it didn't respond
[09:08] <vimagar> i was trying to play et
[09:08] <vimagar> how do i do that?
[09:08] <ForgeAus> hmmm which version edgy?
[09:09] <vimagar> 6.10
[09:09] <vimagar> edgy
[09:09] <intelikey> "<slyfox> Can someone please help - Console login does not work and ctrl+alt+f1 does not work"  ?
[09:09] <intelikey> slyfox what does work ?
[09:09] <boccaccio69> hello
[09:09] <vimagar> could yo people tell me some tips?
[09:09] <slyfox> intelikey: everything else works fine and console inside X works fine
[09:09] <intelikey> slyfox and what hardware ?
[09:09] <boccaccio69> @find apocalypto
[09:09] <vimagar> i mean what are the first steps to take after installation?
[09:10] <slyfox> intelikey: laptop Asus z71v - NvidiaGo 6600 128mg, 2.0ghz Intel Centrino mobile, 2Gb ram ... does it matter ?
[09:10] <vimagar> actually i've executed apt-get instal update
[09:10] <Gretl> vimagar: read the help section
[09:10] <premier_> hello
[09:10] <intelikey> slyfox you can try booting with  vga=normal quiet silent nosplash
[09:10] <slyfox> intelikey: This is the problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621303#post2621303
[09:11] <boccaccio69> !list
[09:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:11] <slyfox> intelikey: how do I boot like that ? Please look at my forum post, I have tried so many things.
[09:12] <xenol> why everytiem when i want to uise sudo i get this in terminal? sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb  8 22:03:30 2007
[09:12] <premier_> adept says there are three packages I can update (something about generic kernel images) but when I load the update manager, it says that their broken or something
[09:12] <premier_> whats the deal?
[09:12] <ScarFreewill> how can i download via rsync
[09:12] <ScarFreewill> whats the console command?
[09:12] <xenol> why do i need to enable my connection to inet everytime i log into edgy_
[09:12] <xenol> ?
[09:12] <kkosmo> !mp3
[09:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:13] <ScarFreewill> premier_: i have the same prob :P
[09:13] <ForgeAus> vimagar in adept its probably good to check for fglxr
[09:13] <xenol> can anyone help me plz?
[09:14] <premier_> Is it something I should worry about?  I dont like messing around with anything called a "kernel image"
[09:14] <vimagar> that's the driver for ATi right?
[09:14] <premier_> sounds too important
[09:14] <premier_> yeah, I have that
[09:14] <vimagar> i did that, but i don't know what happened
[09:14] <thor> hi there all in need of some help with wireless setup in kubuntu edgy can any one help
[09:14] <premier_> what did today's update do to fglxr?
[09:15] <vimagar> my screen resolution went to a lousy 400 x 600
[09:15] <vimagar> and i used xorg to fix it
[09:15] <parkerw207_> is there a linux ebook viewer ?
[09:15] <ScarFreewill> i think is because of a new kernel
[09:15] <vimagar> and then disgraced showed over my shoulder :(
[09:15] <intelikey> slyfox yes and the answer you got there is the same as what i gave you.   it issue is kernel frame buffering issue.       there are two ways to edit the boot options    1. before you reboot edit /boot/grub/menu.lst   or 2. at the boot prompt hit [esc]    select the kernel to boot and hit  [E]    select the line with "splash" in it and change it to "nosplash" and add vga=normal   hit [enter]     hit [B] 
[09:15] <thor> link sys pci card is the one I am using
[09:16] <xenol> !baddevice
[09:16] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[09:16] <vimagar> it's apt-get install upgrade a good thing to do?
[09:16] <alex____> ,   ...     ubuntu           Cannonical
[09:16] <vimagar> or should i do some stuff before that...
[09:16] <xenol> can anyone help me geez plz?
[09:17] <xenol> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb  8 22:03:30 2007 wat does this mean? it appears everytime i wanna use sudo
[09:17] <intelikey> slyfox note.  that edit methood one is permanant.  edit methood two is per boot.
[09:17] <Mys_Teri> I am going to buy a new sound card, can anyone tell me if Sound Blaster is easily recognizable by kubuntu?  Or any ideas for an easy to use inexpensive one?
[09:17] <intelikey> slyfox any questions ?
[09:17] <slyfox> intelikey: liek this:   kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet nosplash vga=norma
[09:18] <xenol> intelikey: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb  8 22:03:30 2007 wat does this mean? it appears everytime i wanna use sudo do know wat is problem plz?
[09:18] <intelikey> vga=normal
[09:18] <intelikey> slyfox yes.
[09:18] <thor> hello anyone usefull here
[09:19] <slyfox> intelikey: ok, changed ad saved it, do I need to do this now?    sudo update-grub
[09:19] <xenol> intelikey: ?
[09:19] <intelikey> xenol means that the system clock either was wrong and has been set or is wrong and needs set.
[09:19] <vimagar> hey watch yar tongue...
[09:19] <intelikey> xenol either way tomarrow that error will have worked itself out.  :)
[09:20] <intelikey> or even later today.
[09:20] <xenol> intelikey:  well i dont know wats wrong ca use it is set correctly
[09:20] <ScarFreewill> should i do rsync -av $URL to download with rsync?
[09:20] <intelikey> slyfox no.
[09:20] <intelikey> xenol the time stamp on the file is future to the hw clock.
[09:20] <intelikey> that's what the error means.
[09:21] <vimagar> whats xserver-xfree86 for?
[09:21] <intelikey> as to why... could be a number of factors
[09:21] <slyfox> intelikey: ok, I wil restart now brb to tell you what happened
[09:21] <xenol> intelikey:  well i dont have time to wait for it and need that f***ing thing to work :/
[09:21] <twosouls82> am I the only one who gets this error? http://rafb.net/p/8Dq7cO55.html
[09:21] <intelikey> slyfox ok.
[09:21] <intelikey> xenol so set the hwclock ?
[09:22] <xenol> intelikey:  in bios?
[09:23] <intelikey> ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc
[09:23] <vimagar> how do i install firefox in ubuntu?
[09:23] <intelikey> vimagar the package manager of your choice
[09:23] <vimagar> you mean adept?
[09:23] <intelikey> yep
[09:24] <intelikey> slyfox and ?
[09:24] <vimagar> any good reference for ubuntu in the web?
[09:24] <slyfox> intelikey: nothing changed, same probem
[09:24] <slyfox> problem
[09:24] <vimagar> like a guide or walkthrough? ;)
[09:25] <intelikey> slyfox you did change the kernel that you booted ?
[09:25] <thor> noooobs
[09:25] <twosouls82> !wiki | vimagar
[09:25] <ubotu> vimagar: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[09:25] <ScarFreewill> !rsync
[09:25] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[09:25] <vimagar> thanks
[09:25] <intelikey> select the right one from the list at boot time ?    slyfox ?
[09:25] <slyfox> intelikey: the kernel? I just changed that grub and that is it
[09:25] <vimagar> anyone plays hattrick around here'
[09:26] <slyfox> intelikey: the default one, I did not even touch anything, just changed grub
[09:26] <slyfox> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/345742   ?
[09:26] <slyfox> this is my grub
[09:27] <intelikey> slyfox and you did default boot correct ?
[09:28] <slyfox> intelikey: yes, i did not touch anything when it was booting
[09:28] <intelikey> slyfox ok.   remove the   nosplash
[09:29] <slyfox> intelikey: it used to be just splash there, should  I put it back ot just erase the whole word ?
[09:29] <ScarFreewill> !rsynchowto
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsynchowto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <intelikey> slyfox question  did you notice anything different when it booted than before you changed that ?
[09:29] <slyfox> intelikey: I don't think so, not that I looked closley
[09:30] <james_> are there any known issues with kdm and a default ubuntu server i386 install?
[09:30] <ScarFreewill1> whats the console cmd to downlaod a rsync file?
[09:31] <slyfox> intelikey: Oh as for what, I had the word splash erased in previous grub and there was no splash, so erased word splash and nosplash is the same thing .
[09:31] <fish_> hi
[09:31] <intelikey> yeah
[09:31] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: apt-get install rsync  ?
[09:31] <fish_> ./join #windows
[09:31] <slyfox> intelikey: so shoulf I put the word splash back in there ?
[09:32] <intelikey> slyfox no.
[09:32] <ScarFreewill1> a rsync file nit that app it self like "rsync -av url"
[09:32] <intelikey> let me look a minute slyfox
[09:32] <ScarFreewill1> *not the app it
[09:32] <slyfox> intelikey: please.
[09:32] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: you want to install rsync ?
[09:33] <ScarFreewill1> slyfox: no i want to download a file with rsync
[09:33] <ScarFreewill1> slyfox: but i don't know how
[09:33] <intelikey> man rsync
[09:33] <ScarFreewill1> i've it doesn't make sense
[09:33] <Roey> hi
[09:34] <Roey> I just installed Kubuntu.
[09:34] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: google ?
[09:34] <ScarFreewill1> they just show me how to list/upload files
[09:34] <Roey> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu.  When I try to change root's passwd, I get:  nothing.  It just sits there.
[09:34] <ScarFreewill1> slyfox: i've googled "how to rsync file"
[09:34] <Roey> what's going on?
[09:34] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: rsync -av /path/to/source/directory /path/to/target/directory
[09:34] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: rsync -av /path/to/source/directory /path/to/target/directory
[09:35] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: got to console and type man rsync
[09:35] <ScarFreewill1> a lol i didn't fill in the path to target dir :P
[09:35] <ScarFreewill1> slyfox: thx alot !
[09:35] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: look here for rsync http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup
[09:35] <slyfox> ScarFreewill1: You are wellcome.
[09:36] <jaims> hi
[09:36] <ScarFreewill1> slyfox: i thought that it would take the dir i am in as the /path/to/target/directory and never put it in..
[09:36] <intelikey> slyfox vga=791  maybe.     you can play with the vga= setting   785 781 791 or even 0x0f05      i'm still satisfied when you get the vga= set right it will work.    also of note.  i have had to  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f8]   & [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    to get frame buffering to let go of the monitor...  you might try that too.
[09:36] <intelikey> slyfox i hope you get it fixed.  if not you can ask someone else.  i gotta go.
[09:37] <intelikey> later y'all
[09:37] <twosouls82> l8er
[09:37] <slyfox> intelikey: thank you
[09:38] <revdjenk> hello everyone...
[09:38] <revdjenk> anyone here using an Averatec laptop?
[09:38] <vimagar> anyone knows how to install cable drivers for xilinx in ubuntu?
[09:39] <ant1matter> I am using kdebase-3.5.6-ubuntu1 i need to get to kdebase-3.5.6-0ubuntu4 but i cannot update or upgrade from apt whats the process of getting these updates?
[09:40] <revdjenk> anyone using ralink 2500 and have wifi connection?
[09:44] <dwidmann> ant1matter: Are you using Feisty or Edgy?
[09:44] <ant1matter> Edgy
[09:45] <ant1matter> dwidmann: edgy
[09:45] <jaims> bye all
[09:45] <ant1matter> dwidmann: my k menus are messed up, my control center is empty...ugh
[09:45] <dwidmann> Hm, odd, I've got 3.5.6-ubuntu3, and I see not ....ubuntu4
[09:46] <dwidmann> then again, I've had more trouble with the amd64 reps than i386 ... seems they don't update as fast
[09:47] <ant1matter> dwidmann: how to you get those updates? I have the listing of repos setup but they arent being seen
[09:47] <glundberg> what's up with the linux kernel upgrade in Edgy??
[09:47] <twosouls82> good question :)
[09:47] <elyon> Hey, I having a problem (which is common for me with Kubuntu).  I modified my /etc/fstab to mount my CD drives to new directories in /media.  However, now they dont mount at all.  And trying to mount them manually tells me that the device (hdc or hdd) do not exist.
[09:47] <twosouls82> I have the same
[09:48] <glundberg> have you been able to upgrade?
[09:48] <twosouls82> http://rafb.net/p/hptUhe75.html
[09:48] <twosouls82> not the kernel
[09:48] <twosouls82> it is a virtual package
[09:48] <dwidmann> and all I see in there is *ubuntu1. Anyhow, any reason why you need the ubuntu4 instead of ubuntu1?
[09:48] <twosouls82> it misses the package it refers to
[09:49] <glundberg> hm...
[09:49] <ant1matter> dwidmann: my problems with the menu and control center were reported as a bug and they released ubuntu4 to fix.
[09:49] <ant1matter> dwidmann: i saw others report as a bug i menat
[09:49] <twosouls82> glundberg: nobody could/would answer the question
[09:49] <twosouls82> let's hope it is fixed soon
[09:49] <glundberg> has anyone else noticed the problem?
[09:50] <elyon> oh forget it.  Good God... Ive reinstalled Kubuntu about 10-15 times now and it NEVER stays working for long.  Time to find a different distro
[09:50] <dwidmann> oops, I misread what I read, I've got *ubuntu1
[09:50] <twosouls82> elyon: better learn to (l)unix
[09:51] <elyon> twosouls82: Kinda hard to learn it when it doesnt even work enough to get help
[09:51] <elyon> And I know linux...its Kubuntu I cant get working lol
[09:52] <twosouls82> elyon: don't just do something, first undestand what you do ;)
[09:52] <twosouls82> even when reading/applying tuts
[09:52] <elyon> twosouls82: Ive editted fstab many times before... never had this problem.
[09:52] <harmental> guys...when "aptgrading" i get this.....
[09:52] <harmental> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:52] <harmental>   linux-headers-generic linux-image-386 linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-386
[09:52] <harmental>   linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:52] <harmental> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[09:52] <dwidmann> elyon, what does "ls /dev/?d?" output?
[09:52] <twosouls82> elyon: what was the prob?
[09:52] <harmental> why cant i reach those packages?
[09:53] <elyon> Hey, I having a problem (which is common for me with Kubuntu).  I modified my /etc/fstab to mount my CD drives to new directories in /media.  However, now they dont mount at all.  And trying to mount them manually tells me that the device (hdc or hdd) do not exist.
[09:53] <elyon> dwidmann: /dev/fd0  /dev/hda  /dev/hdc  /dev/hdd  /dev/sda
[09:53] <glundberg> anyone else have a problem rebooting from KDE?
[09:53] <twosouls82> elyon: and their permissions?
[09:53] <ant1matter> \q
[09:54] <dwidmann> elyon: so, what's your setup, which drives which?
[09:54] <elyon> twosouls82: This is another thing that is really pissing me off.  NOW I mount it and it works fine (and I have not changed anything since my last attempt)
[09:54] <elyon> dwidmann: Okay, hdc is my CD-Writer, hdd is my DVD drive.
[09:55] <twosouls82> elyon: that wouldn't piss me off, better look at it from the bright side of life =)
[09:55] <sbriscoe> I just updated my kubuntu install and it removed windows from grub. How can I put it back in? I tried the grub, find, setup thing but didn't work.
[09:55] <xenol> uff got edgy installed now correctly
[09:55] <dwidmann> and that makes hda and sda hard drives I presume?
[09:55] <dwidmann> Kay
[09:55] <elyon> dwidmann: I was just able to mount my cd writer, but when trying to mount my dvd drive, it just hangs in the console.
[09:55] <elyon> dwidmann: hda is a hard drive, sda I believe is my media card reader.
[09:56] <dwidmann> One sec, I'm going to throw a handful of things together and see how things work.
[09:56] <goodthing> glundberg: no, but i have not upgraded since yesterday
[09:56] <elyon> lol and I tried mounting my DVD drive again... and it worked.  Again, didnt change a thing.
[09:56] <twosouls82> goodthing: would you try to do so, pleas?
[09:56] <twosouls82> s/pleas/please/
[09:57] <xenol> plz where can i turn off kwallet?
[09:57] <goodthing> twosouls82: sure, i have another box with me so i would have to plug my switch in first with some reconnects, so sit tight
[09:57] <elyon> xenol: Annoying little thing, isnt it? lol
[09:57] <xenol> in dapper it was k menu system setings security i dont see anything like there in
[09:57] <twosouls82> aye, thanks
[09:58] <twosouls82> ^-- goodthing
[09:58] <goodthing> twosouls82: talking about edgy right?
[09:58] <xenol> elyon: well it is most annoying even worse then spyware on windows :S
[09:58] <twosouls82> yeppers
[09:58] <goodthing> okies
[09:58] <revdjenk> elyon, I would recommend elive (elivecd.org)
[09:59] <dwidmann> !paste
[09:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:59] <revdjenk> elyon, I would recommend elive (elivecd.org)
[09:59] <elyon> revdjenk: What is that?
[09:59] <revdjenk> elyon, I would recommend elive (elivecd.org)
[09:59] <xenol> !kwallet
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <elyon> revdjenk: Dude, I get it... stop being annoying.
[09:59] <revdjenk> elyon, I would recommend elive (elivecd.org)
[09:59] <xenol> elyon:  any ideas where can i shutdown kwallet?
[10:00] <goodthing> brb
[10:00] <revdjenk> sorry, I was scrolled up the page...!
[10:00] <twosouls82> xenol: is it in your tray now? if so, right click it, choose configure, and do it :)
[10:00] <elyon> xenol: The easiest way is the simply right-click on the icon for it in your tray and choose quit.
[10:00] <james_> i gotta go i'll be back
[10:00] <revdjenk> elyon, it is an enlightnment based livecd... very interesting and fast
[10:00] <dwidmann> elyon: take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4756/
[10:01] <xenol> well it aint in my tray
[10:01] <xenol> as i have seen it set by default to not run at startup :o
[10:01] <dwidmann> crud, meant to put adduser not addgroup, oh well, you'll figure that out ...
[10:01] <xenol> it is running :/
[10:02] <elyon> dwidmann: Now, Ive never had to setup permissions like that before and they worked fine.
[10:02] <dwidmann> elyon: just a failsafe
[10:02] <dwidmann> if it's not working that should set them to what they "should" be
[10:03] <elyon> ah
[10:04] <elyon> Well, I planning on going ahead and installing Ubuntu alt-cd ... but Id like to be able to choose which environment to use (KDE or Gnome) at login.  Ive heard that I should NOT use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  What would you suggest?
[10:04] <twosouls82> elyon: just kdebase
[10:05] <twosouls82> and do the rest later
[10:05] <twosouls82> from within kde
[10:05] <elyon> twosouls82: Also seems I remember having menus totally cluttered with apps from both Gnome and KDE... any way to prevent that?
[10:06] <twosouls82> elyon: you would have to edit the desktop files that represent the menu items to include a "OnlyShowIn" kde option (that might be SUSE  only.. )
[10:06] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[10:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:06] <twosouls82> google for that option elyon
[10:06] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:08] <glundberg> anyone else have a problem rebooting from KDE?
[10:08] <xenol> should i use seveas repo in sources.list?
[10:09] <twosouls82> xeno1: it's quite usefull
[10:10] <kuw88> where can i found real player for ubuntu ?>
[10:10] <jolly> somebody told me that i could move the whole /usr/bin directory to the external harddrive, and mount it as /usr/bin in fstab. how do i do that?
[10:10] <twosouls82> xenol: here you can what packages it contains: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy-seveas/all/
[10:11] <xenol> twosouls82:  hmm and canonical?
[10:11] <jolly> my HDD
[10:11] <jolly> external
[10:11] <twosouls82> xenol: don't use that
[10:11] <twosouls82> I don't I meant
[10:11] <ubuntu> Hi :)
[10:11] <ubuntu> oops
[10:12] <arke> im running the latest kubuntu livecd now
[10:12] <arke> on a laptop
[10:12] <xenol> twosouls82:  hmm and if i have latest kde that is kde356 repo?
[10:12] <arke> ive got a few questions but I'm gonna go read the FAQ first, brb
[10:12] <jolly> can anybody help me with the isssue im having?
[10:12] <parkerw207> can someone help me ?
[10:13] <xenol> !ask
[10:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:13] <parkerw207> lol
[10:13] <xenol> =)
[10:13] <parkerw207> basically earlier i could get on the net with my wifif
[10:13] <parkerw207> i could get onto irc
[10:13] <ck42> wanting to install crossover office - not seeing the binary listed in my repos.  Is this a time where I should just use the .deb install package they supply?
[10:13] <parkerw207> aparetnly a dns problem
[10:13] <kuw88> where can i foud the realplayer for ubuntu?>
[10:13] <twosouls82> xenol:
[10:13] <parkerw207> so i have to keep putting in a new dns server
[10:13] <twosouls82> #deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/32bit binary/
[10:13] <twosouls82> #deb http://albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/32bit binary/
[10:13] <twosouls82> deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/latest/32bit binary/
[10:13] <parkerw207> but now it keeps going to a dns website :S
[10:14] <twosouls82> #AUTOMATIX REPOS START
[10:14] <twosouls82> deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt edgy main
[10:14] <twosouls82> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[10:14] <twosouls82> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:14] <parkerw207> ooo its working now :S
[10:14] <twosouls82> #AUTOMATIX REPOS END
[10:14] <twosouls82> OOOOPSSSS
[10:14] <parkerw207> very wiered
[10:14] <twosouls82> sorry ppl
[10:14] <twosouls82> wrong keycombi
[10:14] <twosouls82> :\
[10:14] <twosouls82> xenol: http://rafb.net/p/uMyiL610.html
[10:14] <goodthing> well, upgrade works, but dist-upgrade is talking against itself for some reason
[10:14] <twosouls82> indeed goodthing, same here
[10:15] <twosouls82> a bug, the packge is virtual, referring to a non-existing packge :\\
[10:15] <parkerw207> hey what these upgradable updates in adept ??
[10:15] <arke> Alright, I must say that I am trulz amazed at how simple, nice, and fast kubuntu is running on my laptop (which, up until now, i have always run windows on)
[10:16] <jolly_> sorry. im back
[10:16] <arke> quick question ... where do i go to change the keyboard layout?
[10:16] <jolly_> somebody told me that i could move the whole /usr/bin directory to the external harddrive, and mount it as /usr/bin in fstab. how do i do that? i have 12 MB left in my internal HDD and i want to install apps on my external HDD
[10:16] <jolly_> [16:10]  <jolly> so they can run in kubuntu. i mean install for adept
[10:16] <arke> man this is so amazing ... everything runs SO SMOOTH
[10:16] <twosouls82> heh :)
[10:18] <goodthing> someone tell the owner of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ that I hate javascript
[10:18] <arke> ok, i found the setting for changing the keyboard map ... SO EASY
[10:18] <arke> I am LOVING this
[10:18] <twosouls82> goodthing: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52154
[10:18] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:18] <twosouls82> goodthing: paste from the command line
[10:19] <goodthing> cool, i like the sound of that :)
[10:19] <twosouls82> goodthing: I use it, it is dandy handy, I edited it a little though
[10:20] <goodthing> for what it may count, heres what aptitude made of it for me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4757/
[10:21] <twosouls82> zelfde, eeuhm, same here goodthing
[10:22] <twosouls82> goodthing: thanks for checking.. let's see if the bug is filed yet
[10:22] <twosouls82> brb
[10:24] <arke> Hmm.
[10:24] <arke> device stuff ... do i ask here or in #ubuntu?
[10:25] <arke> looks like my wireless card is supposed to work out of the box, however it doesnt.
[10:25] <twosouls82> as far as I can tell the bug isn't filed yet
[10:25] <goodthing> the weird thing is that aptitude upgrade only showed me that linux-restricted-modules-generic was held back, but with dist-upgrade there all of a sudden are more packages in the game
[10:26] <sorush20> hi .. why can't I install a big list of applications at once?
[10:26] <sorush20> the command keeps getting skipped
[10:26] <devilsadvocate> sorush20, skipped?
[10:27] <goodthing> oh damn me, i forgot todo update before i started
[10:27] <mattt54000> Bonjour
[10:28] <jolly__> somebody told me that i could move the whole /usr/bin directory to the external harddrive, and mount it as /usr/bin in fstab... i have 12 MB on My Pc's HDD and i want to install porgrams from adept to my External HDD so they could run in kubuntu. help?
[10:28] <arke> what is the tool to use for wireless connection?
[10:28] <mattt54000> enfin Bonsoir plutot
[10:28] <fribuntu> Hi all
[10:28] <xenol> if i use amarok latest repo will it upgrade to 145 ?
[10:28] <fribuntu> I have some problems with my sound settings to get recording from a microphone going.
[10:28] <sorush20> for example the gimp is misssed out here sudo apt-get install -y streamtuner gimp konqueror* ktorrent mplayer xine libxine* xmms
[10:29] <fribuntu> Can anyone offer me some help?
[10:29] <fribuntu> I have triple checked the mixer settings, 20db gain and all. Yet I still only get a high pitch beep and a very soft voice in the background when using krecord.
[10:29] <fribuntu> Same result with "arecord" from the console.
[10:30] <jolly__> ..........
[10:30] <fribuntu> Strange enough, I can skype to the "skype audio test" with crystal clear sound.
[10:30] <soulrider> fribuntu: sorry i have never recorded anything
[10:30] <soulrider> uhm, if i were you id check the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:30] <bomber> how do i tell what kernel im using?
[10:31] <fribuntu> soulrider: Ok. I'll have a look there.
[10:31] <soulrider> bomber: 'uname -a' in a console
[10:31] <_eMaX_> re
[10:31] <bomber> thank you
[10:31] <_eMaX_> anyone here knows what may firefox make think a java applet is not signed, when in fact it is?
[10:32] <jolly__> i want to know if i can run kubuntu programs from my EXTERNAL HDD? adept
[10:33] <dwidmann> jolly__: you can
[10:33] <jolly__> how?
[10:34] <dwidmann> well, if you install them there, on that drive, you can run them while they're on that drive
[10:34] <eagle051387> what command do i use to convert rpms to debian files
[10:34] <eagle051387> i already have alien installed
[10:35] <dwidmann> It'd be a little bit more involved than "normal" though, and you wouldn't be able to do it from debs, unless you moved part of your normal filesystem (particularly the /usr directory) onto the new drive
[10:35] <dwidmann> brb
[10:35] <eagle051387> ?
[10:35] <eagle051387> what u mean dwidmann
[10:36] <g7vac> anyone know why when i start wengophone, it will say another device is useing this zip port but there is nothing else running
[10:36] <soulrider> eagle051387: hes talking to jolly__
[10:36] <soulrider> eagle051387: let me see if i have aline installed and ill tell you
[10:37] <g7vac> zip port 5060 nothing is useing that port
[10:37] <eagle051387> ok someone near me is saying alien -i and if that is the command would it automatically install it
[10:37] <soulrider> eagle051387: alien -d <package?
[10:37] <eagle051387> then how would i install it
[10:37] <soulrider> i would make a deb
[10:37] <soulrider> not install
[10:37] <eagle051387> just run alien -i
[10:37] <soulrider> well
[10:37] <eagle051387> then what i do after that
[10:37] <soulrider> dont use alien -i
[10:37] <cpk1> i dont get it, if I try to install that kernel update all aptitude wants to do is remove stuff and thats it...
[10:38] <cpk1> alien turns a .rpm into a .deb
[10:38] <soulrider> yes
[10:38] <eagle051387> so go alien -i
[10:38] <soulrider> im telling him to dot hat, not to do -i
[10:38] <eagle051387> oh ok
[10:38] <soulrider> NO
[10:38] <soulrider> NO -I
[10:38] <eagle051387> then what do i do after than
[10:38] <soulrider> use -d
[10:38] <eagle051387> ok
[10:38] <soulrider> and then install that deb package
[10:38] <eagle051387> what do i do after that
[10:38] <soulrider> right clickt he file
[10:38] <[knap] > man alien
[10:38] <soulrider> and hit install
[10:38] <cpk1> use alien --to-deb
[10:38] <eagle051387> double click it and install it that
[10:38] <eagle051387> way
[10:39] <soulrider> yes
[10:39] <soulrider> its a deb now
[10:39] <lunchbox> my adept database is locked up with Postfix download and some of the other packages
[10:39] <lunchbox> how do I bump
[10:40] <soulrider> lunchbox: you mean unlock it ?
[10:40] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[10:40] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:40] <lunchbox> yeah
[10:42] <lunchbox> how do I complete the unfinished
[10:44] <cpk1> aptitude -f install
[10:45] <sorush20> the ms fonts are really slow to download
[10:46] <lunchbox> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? ....is the error message I get
[10:47] <kgx> in kde, i want to set up a shortcut to paste something (it password in leet letters). so i set up a keyboard input shortcut in kde control center but it doesnt seem to work, anyone know what could be wrong?
[10:47] <eagle051387> i have the debian file now its converted
[10:47] <darkserver3> hey.... some know any about regular expresion??
[10:47] <eagle051387> how do i install it
[10:47] <eagle051387> if i double click it its an ark file
[10:48] <rEvolution27> eagle, if you right click there should be an install package option
[10:48] <darkserver3> i need to solve a strange problem about a game of balls
[10:49] <darkserver3> and when i end the expression i need to make it in java or C
[10:50] <darkserver3> ummm begin with four exit... A,B,C,D,
[10:50] <darkserver3> has three switch x1,x2,x3
[10:50] <DraxNS> hello.. any fglrx experts here?
[10:50] <darkserver3> a start in A with 0 and B with 1
[10:51] <darkserver3> and have and exit in D
[10:51] <darkserver3> when the ball touche a switch, the other ball can't take the same way...
[10:51] <darkserver3> i need the regular expression for that
[10:52] <darkserver3> some one helppppp!!!
[10:52] <cpk1> lunchbox: sudo aptitude -f install is what i meant
[10:53] <eagle051387> how do i check to see if the package installed
[10:53] <eagle051387> i installed the open mosix kernel how do i know if it installed
[10:55] <Alllex> Hey, I'm having some trouble with screen sizes in Kubuntu 6.10?
[10:56] <rEvolution27> Alllex:  What kinda trouble?
[10:56] <Alllex> I'm using a 1280x1200 (Not exact) screen, yet I can only get it as big as 800X600
[10:56] <rEvolution27> are your graphics drivers installed?
[10:56] <Alllex> Not yet
[10:56] <cpk1> Alllex: you probably need to edit xorg.conf
[10:56] <rEvolution27> then that's most likely the problem
[10:56] <Alllex> Ah, thanks
[10:57] <bomber> ctrl-alt-+    or ctrl-alt-- will change resolutions
[10:57] <eagle051387> how do i find out if the open mosix kernel i just installed installed
[10:58] <jolly_> ok dwdmann how do you do that becaus my external is formated in Fat32
[10:58] <rEvolution27> what's the command to force quit a program?
[10:59] <cpk1> rEvolution27: try ctrl c
[10:59] <bubu1uk> anyone here would give me suggestion how to setup vsftpd to be able for users to login and be chrooted in /home/user but also be able to go to /home/ftp for download stuff?
[11:00] <sorush20> hi what dose this mean after I do sudo modprobe fglrx
[11:00] <sorush20> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[11:01] <jonathan__> how do i check if a kernel has been installed
[11:01] <jhutchins> jonathan__: take a look in /boot
[11:02] <cpk1> uname -a will tell you what you are currently running
[11:02] <bxnp> uname -a
[11:02] <goodthing> or do a apt-cache policy <package>
[11:02] <jhutchins> sorush20: try modprobe -v fglrx
[11:02] <jhutchins> uname doesn't tell you what's installed though.
[11:03] <jhutchins> In fact, you can get a reply from uname that indicates a kernel that's NOT currently installed.
[11:03] <pgdown> how do you use konqueror as an ftp client?
[11:03] <bmw> Ah, question, folks:  Have Edgy installed on i386.  Latest upgrades of linux want to break the upgrade, Have "linux-generic" version 2.6.17.11 installed but "linux-headers, -image & -restricted-modules" says it will "BREAK(upgrade)"  I noticed that I have all those files installed for the previous version but have different file names.  Thoughts"
[11:03] <bubu1uk> pgdown: type ftp://ftpserveraddress
[11:03] <jhutchins> pgdown: Just use an ftp url, ftp://some/host/file/name.foo
[11:04] <goodthing> bmw: a known problem, looks like anyone is in that ship right now
[11:05] <bmw> goodthing: would it be safe to uninstall the problem files and do the upgrade files all in the same instance?  Has anyone tried that?
[11:05] <pgdown> bubu1uk jhutchins - thanks
[11:06] <goodthing> bmw: well, i would wait for it to be fixed and not touch dist-upgrade in any way
[11:07] <bmw> Kewl.  Thanks.  Appreciate you all here.
[11:10] <pgdown> so, when I sudo apt-get upgrade, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4762 - whats the deal?
[11:11] <cpk1> pgdown: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade would probably resolve it
[11:12] <pgdown> cpk1 : same thing
[11:12] <cpk1> pgdown: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade says the same exact thing?
[11:14] <pgdown> cpk1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4763/
[11:15] <pgdown> im going to reboot and see if that helps...
[11:15] <cpk1> no
[11:15] <goodthing> that does not help...
[11:15] <jonathan__> how do i change the default boot kernel
[11:15] <cpk1> ....
[11:15] <rEvolution27> sometimes my screen seems to stick in the middle of a refresh for a few extra seconds on part of the screen... what could be causing this?
[11:15] <jonathan__> i installed the openmosix kernel and now i would like to use that as my kernel
[11:15] <cpk1> you should be able to choose it at boot time
[11:16] <jonathan__> i cant
[11:16] <jonathan__> i dont get a choice for kernels
[11:17] <jonathan__> does that mean the openmosix kernel isnt installed
[11:17] <cpk1> jonathan__: do you see it in /boot?
[11:17] <TowerClimber> does anyone know how I can get snmpwalk, instead of tinysnmpwalk?  Or is anyone having problems with tinysnmpwalk?
[11:18] <jonathan__> yes i see it in there
[11:18] <parkerw207> guys how do i burn a cd ?
[11:18] <cpk1> then you have it, you probably need to press escape at boot to see the grub menu
[11:18] <parkerw207> infact how do i get a single track of a cd and copy it ?
[11:18] <xenol> plx why do i see kernel upgrade in adept notifier but when i want to DL them and i click apply changes it says that i dont need them
[11:19] <jonathan__> ok ill try it and ill come back cpk
[11:19] <cpk1> jonathan__: you could check in /boot/grub/menu.list
[11:19] <cpk1> to see if its listed at the bottom there
[11:19] <jonathan__> ok ill try that
[11:19] <cpk1> parkerw207: easiest way would be to use k3b
[11:20] <parkerw207> ok how do i get only a couple of track off each cd?
[11:20] <jonathan__> it says no such directory exists
[11:20] <goodthing> parkerw207: you mean music? i use cdparanoia for that
[11:21] <cpk1> jonathan__: sorry i meant /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <rEvolution27> jonathan__: that open mosix thing looks really cool
[11:21] <jonathan__> it is we r working on getting a cluster setup at my college
[11:21] <parkerw207> ooo ok then thanks!
[11:21] <rEvolution27> oh I see
[11:21] <cpk1> parkerw207: grip is pretty good for ripping music
[11:21] <rEvolution27> things like that make open source worth while
[11:22] <parkerw207> how do i get grip ?
[11:22] <xenol> !restricted formats
[11:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <cpk1> parkerw207: its in the repositories
[11:23] <jonathan__> found a list in konsole and its not even listed as the kernels used at boot time
[11:23] <goodthing> cpk1: doesn't grip need to have acces by an audiocable?
[11:23] <sleepy745> What is a good e-mail service that works good with Thunderbird, Yahoo charges for a POP3 ..
[11:23] <parkerw207> oooo ok
[11:23] <cpk1> grip rips from audio cds
[11:23] <scotty> Okay, I installed Kubuntu 6.06 LTS on my laptop last night. Worked great, got my wireless card up and running. I decided to upgrade to Edgy. Now my touchpad on my laptop won't work. Anyone know how to get it working? I use a Dell Inspiron 1000, if that helps.
[11:23] <pgdown> cpk1: still doesnt upgrade. no idea.
[11:23] <|lostbyte|> How to monitor ssh session?
[11:24] <goodthing> cpk1: i know, but for what i have tested, it needed such cable between the cdrom and motherbord
[11:24] <cpk1> pgdown: thats because rebooting does nothing, try sudo aptitude -f install
[11:24] <jeroenvrp> linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic but it is not installable
[11:24] <cpk1> goodthing: i only am connected via ide to my cdrom and it works fine
[11:24] <Alllex> Hey- I've foudn the right GPU driver but it's in .run format, how can I open that?
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> I want to help a buch on friends use ssh to learn for the exam, but i want to see if they wont mess up anythung..
[11:24] <cpk1> Alllex: what kind of card do you have?
[11:24] <jeroenvrp> whats up with the repos!?\
[11:25] <pgdown> cpk1: same thing
[11:25] <Alllex> ATI Radeon XPress 200 intergrated
[11:25] <goodthing> cpk1: ok, thanks, maybe i haven't used it for too long...
[11:25] <hatta> Alllex, it's just a shell script
[11:25] <cpk1> Alllex: what does lspci say about your card?
[11:26] <sampan> sleepy745  gmail works flawlessly with POP3/thunderbird ... never had a problem with it.
[11:26] <Alllex> lspci?
[11:26] <sleepy745> thanks
[11:26] <cpk1> in konsole do lspci
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> Anyone ?
[11:26] <franz> hello guys
[11:27] <Alllex> It says alot of things- which in particular?
[11:27] <cpk1> Alllex: nevermind, this is for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:28] <underdog5004> |lostbyte|, uh, I can use ssh pretty well...what do you want to do specifically
[11:29] <jeroenvrp> does anyone have the same problem updating apt
[11:29] <jeroenvrp> again: linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[11:29] <cpk1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[11:29] <DraxNS> cpk1 can you help with this?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356200
[11:29] <jeroenvrp> are kept back
[11:29] <sampan> yes jeroenvrp ... it's a bug.  don't do any upgrading till the devs get it sorted out
[11:29] <underdog5004> jeroenvrp, for some reason, adept won't install the linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic stuff...I'm thinking I may need a reboot...
[11:30] <parkerw207> whats a .m3u files?
[11:30] <cpk1> jeroenvrp: read this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[11:30] <jeroenvrp> cpk1: ok thanx
[11:30] <underdog5004> parkerw207, it's a playlist
[11:30] <underdog5004> I think
[11:30] <parkerw207> oo ok then thanks
[11:30] <sampan> parkerw207  .m3u are "winamp" playlists (for music)
[11:30] <jeroenvrp> sampan: I allready updated it
[11:30] <jeroenvrp> should I avoid rebooting?
[11:30] <parkerw207> will a .wav file play on most cd players ?
[11:30] <underdog5004> parkerw207, yes
[11:30] <underdog5004> I believe so
[11:30] <parkerw207> ok thanks
[11:30] <sampan> jeroenvrp  oh ... i would guess probably don't reboot until there's more information.
[11:30] <underdog5004> oh wait, no...only cdda
[11:30] <|lostbyte|> underdog5004, i want to monitor my friends.. that are using ssh on my system
[11:31] <jeroenvrp> ok than I dont reboot
[11:31] <parkerw207> i am having to rip a cd for my mums wedding lol
[11:31] <scotty> Okay, I installed Kubuntu 6.06 LTS on my laptop last night. Worked great, got my wireless card up and running. I decided to upgrade to Edgy. Now my touchpad on my laptop won't work. Anyone know how to get it working? I use a Dell Inspiron 1000, if that helps.
[11:31] <parkerw207> so i gotta get this right
[11:31] <underdog5004> |lostbyte|, oh, ok, you want people to ssh into your computer, but you want to be able to watch what they do?
[11:31] <jonathan__> i looked in the grub boot list and the openmosix kernel wasnt in there
[11:32] <underdog5004> scotty, lol, we had about 4 inspiron 1000's come into the shop yesterday...all had failed hard drives
[11:32] <jonathan__> how do i add it
[11:32] <parkerw207> so how do i make it a cdda ??#
[11:32] <andres> how installer firefox?
[11:32] <jonathan__> nice lol
[11:32] <underdog5004> parkerw207, just use K3b to make an audio cd and add whatever files you want in there
[11:32] <underdog5004> !k3b
[11:32] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[11:32] <scotty> underdog: It's a completely redone 1000 :P New HD, new DDR, new graphics card
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> underdog5004, excatly.
[11:32] <parkerw207> 3b wont work for me for some reason
[11:32] <underdog5004> really, I didn't know you could upgrade laptop Gfx cards
[11:32] <jonathan__> anyone know how i can add a kernel to grub
[11:33] <DraxNS> laptops from hell .. delivered by dell ;-)
[11:33] <underdog5004> |lostbyte|, why not just make different users for all of them...
[11:33] <underdog5004> ?
[11:33] <scotty> underdog: Dell put it in because the old one was faulty. They asked if I wanted the same one, or an upgraded model.
[11:33] <|lostbyte|> underdog5004, and..
[11:33] <underdog5004> scotty, I bet I know which one you picked
[11:33] <slyfox> Can someone please tel me how to fix Console Login? All I get is a Black Screen. Ctrl+Alt+F1 also gives me a black screen. Help
[11:33] <goodthing> parkerw207: tell me the start point, what are you working from
[11:34] <parkerw207> that k3b doesnt let you rip cdda
[11:34] <underdog5004> |lostbyte|, ummm, if you make individual users for each one, then they can't mess your stuff up, unless you add them to the sudoers list
[11:34] <scotty> Anyway, not the point how crappy my 400 dollar laptop that I use very rarely is :P Does anyone know how to get the touchpad working?
[11:34] <underdog5004> parkerw207, what are you trying to do?
[11:34] <DraxNS> k3b DOES let you make audio CD from mp3/ogg
[11:34] <andres> i update the path and don't see the icon of firefox in the desktop
[11:34] <parkerw207> goodthing : basically my mum wants me to make a cd for her wedding , i have some cd's she gaveme and she gave me a list of songs she wants on the cd
[11:34] <|lostbyte|> underdog5004, but they can see my files..
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> like if they cd into my home dir.
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> how could i hide my home.. ??
[11:35] <underdog5004> |lostbyte|, then you need to change the perms on your /home/user
[11:35] <underdog5004> do this... sudo chmod 770 /home/your_user_name
[11:35] <underdog5004> I think that's right...
[11:35] <underdog5004> lol
[11:35] <goodthing> parkerw207: k3b is not a ripper, you are best of with cdparanoia for that IMO, but grip will it also
[11:36] <cpk1> DraxNS: why are you using modelines anyways... you shouldnt need them, also the only errors in your xorg log is the wacom drivers and isnt a problem (unless you have a writing tablet)
[11:36] <cpk1> grip uses cdparanoia
[11:36] <goodthing> indeed
[11:36] <underdog5004> !cdrecorder
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrecorder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <|lostbyte|> underdog5004, Alright.. then i have nothing to worry :) thanks..dude
[11:36] <underdog5004> |lostbyte|, np
[11:36] <underdog5004> pay it forward!
[11:38] <xenol> !restrictedformats
[11:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:38] <DraxNS> cpk1, when I commented out wacom.. it crashed
[11:38] <DraxNS> cpk1 and since it is laptop... I put it back
[11:38] <parkerw207> goodthing . so it will work ? just not as good as cdparanoia ?
[11:38] <goodthing> parkerw207: if grip does not suit you, there also is KAudioCreator (although i am no fan of that)
[11:39] <underdog5004> I just d/l my music...lol
[11:39] <underdog5004> I love my server...
[11:39] <DraxNS> cpk1 so I should get read of modlines?
[11:39] <goodthing> parkerw207: well, it will work just as nice, but i just prefer cdparanoia from the command line
[11:40] <cpk1> DraxNS: did you forget to comment out towards the bottom the stylus cursor and erasor lines as well when you commented out wacom?
[11:40] <parkerw207> oo
[11:40] <parkerw207> goodthing what is ogg vorbis ?
[11:40] <parkerw207> thats what i am ripping everything in
[11:40] <parkerw207> as it seems to be the only one it will allow me to ring in
[11:40] <cpk1> parkerw207: grip uses cdparanoia but it has a nice friendly gui
[11:40] <cesvi87> #join tarragona
[11:40] <parkerw207> rip*
[11:41] <DraxNS> cpk1, no... as far as I remember .... I # all that but since X failed... I removed #
[11:41] <goodthing> parkerw207: that is a lossy format which is the one every linux should at least consider
[11:41] <DraxNS> better to have any X than no X at all ;-)
[11:41] <goodthing> *+user
[11:41] <K`zan> I've got two updates today, linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic, I select either and it says (BREAK (upgrade)), What do I do?  TIA!
[11:41] <TheDebugger> same here
[11:41] <cpk1> DraxNS: anyways, if you did sudo depmod -a that should make it start properly...
[11:41] <cpk1> K`zan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[11:42] <K`zan> cpk1 checking, thanks!
[11:42] <goodthing> parkerw207: but if you want to make a CD for your mom, and want to convert back to cda format, you better not use lossy but plain wav
[11:42] <DraxNS> cpk1, I'll do it again... it will not hurt...
[11:42] <parkerw207> goodthing . oo i see , well wilkl it still rip an audio cd for me ?
[11:42] <parkerw207> oo crap i just ripped in lossy
[11:42] <crazy_penguin> Good Night everyone! Sleep well!
[11:43] <goodthing> parkerw207: yes, but if you make it CD again, you will end up with quality loss
[11:43] <DraxNS> cpk1, but I'll try to clear out xorg.conf... before anything else
[11:43] <parkerw207> damn so i should do .wav ?
[11:43] <goodthing> parkerw207: i would, yes
[11:43] <parkerw207> thanks goodthing
[11:44] <cpk1> DraxNS: if you followed the wiki to the tee then i dont think you should have any problems
[11:44] <darkserver3> hey... guys.... bye bye...!!!
[11:44] <goodthing> parkerw207: there is no reason to make ogg first in this situation, only reasons not to
[11:44] <cpk1> parkerw207: you could use flac too and save yourself a little bit of space
[11:44] <parkerw207> oo i see
[11:44] <parkerw207> flac ?
[11:44] <cpk1> Free Lossless Audio Codec
[11:44] <DraxNS> cpk1, I had... I just manually edited xorg to change ati with fglrx
[11:44] <parkerw207> and i get that from ?
[11:44] <xenol> lol amarok 1.4.5 is stable?
[11:45] <goodthing> cpk1: no he wants to go back to normal cda
[11:45] <parkerw207> yeah so it will play on any sterio
[11:45] <cpk1> i think k3b will change it back to wave if you tell it you are making an audio cd
[11:45] <parkerw207> oo crap but will that play on most cd player s?
[11:46] <goodthing> cpk1: oh wait, yeah that is possible but you're making it hard for him now
[11:46] <jonathan__> got the kernel setup where on earth would i find the ram disk
[11:46] <jonathan__> cpk had to go into /boot/grub and load it in emacs and add the kernel to the list
[11:46] <jonathan__> cpk now where do i find the initial ramdisk
[11:46] <parkerw207> so what would i do ?
[11:47] <parkerw207> rip all these songs in .wav
[11:47] <bjerke_> hej
[11:47] <parkerw207> then how would i get them to cda for a cd?
[11:47] <parkerw207> i dont want to much this up for me mum lol
[11:47] <Alumin> anybody got a recommendation on a program to maintain a journal/diary?
[11:48] <Alumin> ideally this app would support arbitrary per-entry metadata, encrypt its data files, and have at least simple text formatting
[11:48] <DraxNS> parkerw207, open k3b select make audio cd and add mp3 files to it.. you will see how much it can add.. when full select burn... and that is it
[11:48] <DraxNS> parkerw207, it will make classic audio cd
[11:48] <parkerw207> so i should be ripping in mp3 ?
[11:49] <underdog5004> rip in ogg
[11:49] <jonathan__> this is driving me nuts
[11:49] <goodthing> parkerw207: you would do: rip the cd's in either wav or flac -> pick the one you want -> burn the wav-files with k3b as audio-cd (i believe flac will also just do that)
[11:49] <DraxNS> parkerw207, what are your source files?
[11:49] <cpk1> parkerw207: ideally you would want to rip in wav or flac
[11:49] <parkerw207> i'll have a look one sec
[11:49] <Alumin> parkerw207: wav/flac will give you perfect-quality copies, but the files are substantially larger
[11:50] <parkerw207> i only need like 5 songs on one cd
[11:50] <jonathan__> flac though really larg file sides
[11:50] <jonathan__> besides that great sound quality
[11:50] <goodthing> parkerw207: then just do wav...
[11:50] <Alumin> either way I wouldn't rip in mp3
[11:50] <jonathan__> cpk where would i find the initial ram disk
[11:50] <parkerw207> how do i find out what format the songs are , on the cd?
[11:50] <cpk1> flac is smaller than wav
[11:50] <cpk1> parkerw207: if it is a cd you bought then it is .wav
[11:50] <Alumin> parkerw207: audio CDs are in wav format
[11:51] <DraxNS> or in cda
[11:51] <parkerw207> ooo
[11:51] <jonathan__> no its not
[11:51] <jonathan__> wait
[11:51] <parkerw207> these are old cd's lol
[11:51] <fribuntu> cpk1: Not really. It is raw PCM audio.
[11:51] <jott_> wav is a container format.. the audio is pcm..
[11:51] <jott_> fribuntu: right :)
[11:51] <K`zan> cpk1 Guess I'll just chill :-), thanks!
[11:52] <jott> but ripping to wav will contain the raw pcm data from the cd so it's fine ;)
[11:52] <DraxNS> cpk1, thanx for help....  I will try to clear xorg.conf and to do a depmod once more
[11:52] <parkerw207> oo ok then thanks :)
[11:52] <cpk1> DraxNS: wait
[11:53] <goodthing> parkerw207: old cd's with scratches, then -> use a tool that uses cdparanoia
[11:53] <hatta> http://rip.sourceforge.net/
[11:53] <fribuntu> parkerw207: Or use cdparanoia directly :)
[11:53] <hatta> best ripping script ever
[11:53] <parkerw207> there not scratched
[11:53] <cpk1> DraxNS: how do you know its not starting at boot?
[11:53] <goodthing> but most cdrom's can use it anyway for what i understand
[11:54] <hatta> automatically rip with cdparanoia with tags filled automatically and converted automatically to the format of your choice
[11:54] <parkerw207> going AFK
[11:54] <hatta> with just one command
[11:54] <jonathan__> if i can get this to work im gongi tob bbe so happy
[11:54] <DraxNS> cpk1, when I log on to KDE it has poor graphics... like 256 colors ...
[11:54] <goodthing> parkerw207: that leaves the incorrectness of the station where you put the cd in
[11:54] <fribuntu> parkerw207: I just use "KAudioCreator". It works fine most of the time and it has an "idiot proof GUI" :)
[11:55] <DraxNS> cpk1, but after I do anything like glxgears.. it gets sharp and full like 24b of colors
[11:55] <sampan> fribuntu  bah ... i've managed to muck up rips with KAudioCreator .. it's not TOTALLY idiot-proof!
[11:55] <fribuntu> parkerw207: It also has some nice features like CDDB lookup for track info etc.
[11:55] <fribuntu> sampan: :)
[11:55] <sampan> :D
[11:56] <fribuntu> sampan: it is adequately idiot-proof.
[11:56] <slyfox> Can someone please tel me how to fix Console Login? All I get is a Black Screen. Ctrl+Alt+F1 also gives me a black screen. Help
[11:56] <DraxNS> slyfox, looks like you have messed up your X
[11:56] <jott> kaudiocreator uses cdparanoia to rip...
[11:56] <jhutchins> fribuntu: For any degree of idiot-proofing, someone can ALWAYS come up with a better idiot.
[11:56] <xenol> ok i need someone who can help me i cant shutdown PC when i shut it down wont shut down and olnymonitor shuts down
[11:56] <sampan> fribuntu  indeed -- it's pretty simple and works adequately for me anyway
[11:56] <fribuntu> slyfox: errm, what about CTRL+ALT+F2 ... and what happens, if you press "enter"?
[11:57] <xenol> !shutdown
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <cpk1> DraxNS: that makes no sense... i suppose a quick and dirty way would be to use modprobe and startup, but i dont understand why it wouldnt be working correctly
[11:57] <slyfox> fribuntu: nothing, black screen
[11:57] <sampan> i'm still wishing i could find someone who would help me figure out why my edgy install keeps hard freezing on me at random times about once a week.  it's distressing
[11:57] <DraxNS> cpk1, me neither :-)
[11:57] <slyfox> DraxNS: can you help ?
[11:57] <slyfox> DraxNS: here are the details: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621303#post2621303
[11:57] <fribuntu> jhutchins: It is so true. Sometimes I manage to be the idiot. But not with KAudioCreator :)
[11:57] <slyfox> fribuntu: can you help? Here are the details http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621303#post2621303
[11:58] <DraxNS> slyfox, not now... sorry.. I've been working too much hours now... but I suggest to do a reconfigure thingy with xorg
[11:58] <xenol> plz how cna i turn of pc?
[11:58] <DraxNS> 10x all
[11:58] <cpk1> DraxNS: if fglrxinfo says you are using the ati driver at boot though then I dont see why it wouldnt be working
[11:58] <DraxNS> cpk1, that is why I am confused...
[11:59] <slyfox> DraxNS: already did it, did not help
[11:59] <DraxNS> and oddly enough it does work... just not from the start
[11:59] <xenol> !turnoff
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about turnoff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <DraxNS> slyfox, in that case sorry
[11:59] <slyfox> DraxNS: crap, looks like a Distro reisntall is needed :-(
[12:00] <slyfox> DraxNS: I hate it when there is aproblem and no one has any idea why it is. Really do not want to run into it again
[12:00] <jott> slyfox: i had the same problem but setting the vga kernel parameter helped.. maybe you have to find the right vesa mode that works for you
[12:00] <DraxNS> slyfox, well not.. it can be fixed... but I am too tired to look it up now
[12:00] <cpk1> slyfox: you should probably turn Option  "Composite" "Enable" to Option  "Composite" "Disable"
[12:01] <parkerw207> hmmm why does kaudiocreator say " No odecs selected" and why does it not show the tracks ont he cd ?
[12:01] <fribuntu> slyfox: Well first of all, you do not have a X11 problem, so editing anything in the xorg.conf is not going to help.
[12:01] <slyfox> jott: what did you set it to ?
[12:01] <cpk1> he still should turn compositing off if he isnt going to be using it =P
[12:01] <slyfox> cpk1: already tried it, did not help
[12:02] <jott> slyfox: 838 (that should be 1600x1200x16 afair)
[12:02] <DraxNS> N8 all this time for sure ;-)
[12:02] <Casaubon> hi all
[12:02] <xenol> plz what is my problem with turning off pc? i cant turn it offf can anyone help me?
[12:02] <tish> perdonn  pa entrar en ua sala espaola?
[12:02] <slyfox> jott: how do you get these? I have 1680x1050
[12:02] <xenol> !es
[12:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:02] <slyfox> fribuntu: what should I do? Can you please look here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621810#post2621810
[12:02] <jott> slyfox: well i suppose 1680x1050 is not a valid vesa mode.. there is a tool to query the modes... erm.. hold on
[12:02] <cpk1> slyfox: also you dont have to do login to console from X you can just change to a different tty and then get a login prompt there
[12:03] <slyfox> cpk1: none of the tty work not one from F1 to F6
[12:03] <xenol> :( why no one want to help a nub?
[12:04] <fignew> xenol: how won't it turn off?
[12:04] <xenol> monitor will turn off but i can hear cooler working when pc should be turned off
[12:04] <xenol> is doing nothing
[12:04] <xenol> only monitor shuts down
[12:04] <spitwise> push button/flip switch/unplug?
[12:04] <fribuntu> slyfox: I'd try to boot with vga=769 (that is 640x480x8) and see if that works. If not, I'd totally turn of the framebuffer support for the console in the kernel. I don't know if there is a boot option for that.
[12:05] <slyfox> xenol: what video card do you have?
[12:05] <xenol> slyfox: 9600 pro
[12:05] <fignew> spitwise: gee, helpful
[12:05] <spitwise> :D
[12:05] <xenol> spitwise: hahaha
[12:05] <slyfox> fribuntu: how do I turn of the framebuffer support for the console in the kernel ?
[12:05] <xenol> any ideas?
[12:05] <fignew> xenol: does it go to the shutdown screen?
[12:05] <slyfox> xenol: did you install the correct drivers ?
[12:06] <fignew> slyfox: not an ATI problem...
[12:06] <xenol> slyfox: i didnt isntalled drivers :S got the basic one shiped with kub 6.10 installation
[12:06] <xenol> fignew: i think no
[12:06] <fribuntu> slyfox: Well, there is an option for turning it on or off when you compile your own kernel :) There should be a module for that in the Kubuntu-Kernel. But before you do that, first try 640xx480x8
[12:06] <slyfox> fignew: I rememebr I had soemthing similar with ATI, it would freeze my pc becasue of the ati drivers nto isntalled
[12:07] <fignew> ATI drivers are for X11 only... you don't need them when shutting down :P
[12:07] <fribuntu> slyfox: vesafb.ko I believe is the module.
[12:07] <slyfox> fribuntu: ok I'll try it now, no idea how to kompile kernel, I am simply a noob and console did work before. But before what I do not remember, no idea what messed it up. I suspect it was either Beryl or Nvidia 9xxx series driver .
[12:07] <xenol> any ideas?
[12:07] <fignew> xenol: is it a laptop?
[12:07] <parkerw207> ooops
[12:07] <xenol> fignew: no desktop
[12:07] <fignew> custom or prebuilt?
[12:08] <xenol> fignew: custom
[12:08] <fignew> strange
[12:08] <fignew> have you tried pressing ctrl+alt+F1 when the screen goes blank?
[12:08] <parkerw207> ok how do i make sure this audi cd plays on all the cd players ?
[12:08] <xenol> my monitor shuts down
[12:08] <fignew> and also, does the screen actually TURN OFF or just go blank?
[12:08] <parkerw207> i am on the burning cd
[12:09] <xenol> when i turn it of it says no signal
[12:09] <fignew> ok
[12:09] <xenol> it act as shutdown
[12:09] <fribuntu> slyfox: You do not have to compile the kernel. Just do NOT load that module.
[12:09] <fribuntu> slyfox: there should be a boot option for that.
[12:09] <fignew> does the harddrive click after the screen goes blank?
[12:09] <parkerw207> anyone ?
[12:09] <xenol> fignew:  click?
[12:10] <fribuntu> slyfox: video:vesa=off vga=normal
[12:10] <slyfox> fribuntu: I will do this, is it correct?:    kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash vga=769       ?
[12:10] <fignew> make noise
[12:10] <xenol> fignew:  yes
[12:10] <xenol> cooler
[12:10] <fignew> well, a clicking noise ;)
[12:10] <fignew> is it working?
[12:10] <xenol> yeah .)
[12:10] <xenol> yes
[12:10] <xenol> well
[12:10] <parkerw207> anyone ? hehe
[12:10] <xenol> dunno monitor doesnt shows anything
[12:11] <fribuntu> slyfox: You can enter those parameters at the boot prompt, you don't have to edit the grub config all the time.
[12:11] <fignew> I'd submit a bug to ubuntu
[12:11] <xenol> well i am running kubuntu =)
[12:11] <Minataku> xenol: I missed it, what's the issue?
[12:12] <slyfox> fribuntu: I will reboot now and see what happens
[12:12] <xenol> Minataku:  when i press turn off icon in kubuntu monitors shut down but pc wont turn off cooler is working
[12:12] <fribuntu> slyfox: good luck
[12:12] <Minataku> xenol: Hm... How old is this PC?
[12:12] <xenol> Minataku: 1.5-2 years aint sure
[12:13] <Minataku> It's more than likely an ACPI issue
[12:13] <bubu1uk> ls
[12:13] <bubu1uk> ops, wrong window.
[12:13] <xenol> Minataku: well i havent got turn off probs with dapper
[12:13] <Minataku> xenol: Hrm... I've heard this before
[12:14] <Minataku> Don't remember if an answer ever happened, though :\
[12:14] <xenol> Minataku:  i am running k7n2 delta series MB
[12:14] <Minataku> xenol: Check /var/log/messages or /var/log/messages.old
[12:14] <Minataku> Look for the big line you usually see when it first boots, it says a lot of junk, then look BEFORE that
[12:15] <xenol> Minataku:  i will paste its chaotic for me :/
[12:15] <Minataku> xenol: That works too
[12:15] <xenol> well i have message and message.0
[12:15] <xenol> which one?
[12:16] <xenol> !paste
[12:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:16] <Minataku> First one first
[12:16] <Minataku> The one w/o the .0
[12:16] <slyfox> fribuntu: while booting, splash screen was massed up with the resolution becauseo changed vga, but once booted still no change, console does nto work
[12:16] <xenol> Minataku: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4771/
[12:16] <fribuntu> slyfox: ok, try disabling vesa then.