=== doko_ is now known as doko [12:27] ddaa: Sorry, I missed your response by about 30 secs, I've made the comment now. I'll know for next time, thanks. === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-37-172.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === moreati [n=alex@user-54442aad.lns2-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #launchpad [] [12:55] Does anybody know if e-mailing edit@bugs.launchpad.net will work for comments too? === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === belito [n=user@190.40.75.84] has joined #launchpad === barry is now known as barry-away [01:28] bdmurray: https://help.launchpad.net/UsingMaloneEmail#head-6da6be7b397f62d5af20c015916d9202689bd9e7 [01:30] ddaa: I was curious about https://help.launchpad.net/UsingMaloneEmail#head-6d23e4ac6c68944303952e4be39920a6b1cad97c [01:30] and what would happend with a comment for multiple bugs [01:31] multiple bugs? [01:32] e-mailing edit@bugs.launchpad.net is supposed to allow you to change more than one bug [01:32] so there are a couple whose status I want to change but I also want to put a comment in those [01:32] I see... [01:33] I was not aware of this functionality :) [01:33] no idea whether and how you can also add comments in batch [01:33] I was hoping it would be useful [01:34] lifeless: do you know? [01:34] or know somebody who would know and is around now? [01:56] New bug: #5575 in launchpad-bazaar "Do we really have to name our branches in Launchpad?" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5575 === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-233-130.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [02:11] ddaa: I seem to have found the answer if you are interested. [02:11] tell me [02:11] There is a bug against lp about it, but comments are ignored [02:12] when e-mailing edit@bugs.launchpad.net [02:12] okay [02:12] probably was the simplest thing to implement [02:12] it's not terribly harder to write multiple emails [02:12] and probably much less error-prone [02:18] good night === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-233-130.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad [03:35] New bug: #83908 in launchpad-bazaar "branch listing should be batched" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83908 === quail [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #launchpad [04:05] New bug: #83909 in launchpad "changing bug visibility page format bad" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83909 === poolie_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === gery13 [i=xbnwkjbr@nezmar.netlab.cz] has joined #launchpad === poolie_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.3.130.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #launchpad === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ is now known as thumper === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad [07:42] is there a shorthand for referring to a spec in a bug comment? === silwol [n=silwol@193.170.68.74] has joined #launchpad === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [07:59] jml: I've only see people use URLs [08:00] Might be worth filing a wishlist bug for shorthand and hyperlinking (or a spec stub) [08:00] New bug: #48813 in launchpad-bazaar "Efficiently mirroring sftp hosted branches with minimal latency" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48813 [08:04] stub: ok [08:07] Ubugtu: that branch ain't exactly new... [08:09] It got reassigned, which seems to trigger a new bug email. [08:15] New bug: #83925 in launchpad "Add a shorthand for referring to specs in bug comments" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83925 === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [08:18] spiv, hello [08:19] is irc.canonical down or is it just me? [08:19] poolie_: just you, I think. [08:21] ok, xchat was confused about the port number for some reason [08:25] New bug: #83928 in launchpad-bazaar "register launchpad url scheme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83928 === poolie_ is now known as poolie === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === LCBP [n=lcbp@ip11-164-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [08:29] morning [08:31] sorry, morning [08:32] i was stil a sleep [08:32] is this the RISC OS lauchpad === LCBP [n=lcbp@ip11-164-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has left #launchpad [] === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@81.13.217.242] has joined #launchpad [08:43] morning all [08:43] SteveA: is brilliant all cooked? [08:44] i don't see any change in the app pages [08:44] hi sabdfl [08:44] hey LaserJock [08:49] sabdfl, you mean the app home pages? [08:49] yup [08:49] morning mpt [08:49] morning [08:50] our call is in 13 mins, and i was hoping to see the stuff we discussed last week, implemented [08:50] Last I saw, Usman was waiting for your go-ahead on one of the layout options [08:50] but I may not have been CCed on your reply [08:50] hmm... i'm on leave and not watching email this week, so that's not a great result [08:51] Shall I put them on the wiki for you to look at? [08:51] mpt: or let me know the date of the email [08:52] February 5th, "App home page updates" [08:53] sabdfl, mpt: :I updated brilliant last night. [08:53] mpt: anything additional for me to update this morning? [08:53] SteveA: apparently things got jammed waiting for me to make a decision - shouldn't have happened! [08:56] SteveA, structural object children and other miscellaneous fixes [08:56] mpt: where do I update from? I don't see an email from you [08:57] SteveA, I judged that those changes weren't design-y enough to need merging by themselves [08:58] ok. I'd have appreciated an email saying "nothing to merge" [08:58] remember that the absence of news isn't the same as the news of absence [08:58] ok, sorry [08:59] I still need to work on those "no news" messages [09:02] dialing in now === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #launchpad === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === glatzor [n=sebi@p5496743B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt misses dilys === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@62-30-68-36.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad === medders [n=matt@81.168.72.134] has joined #launchpad === _mholthaus [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad [10:31] New bug: #42480 in malone "Report a bug about product that doesn't use Malone should include link to product's official bug tracker" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42480 === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db440cc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad [10:46] New bug: #639 in malone "strange choice of front page elements" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/639 [10:46] New bug: #3797 in malone "Bug mails should explain why the person is getting emailed." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3797 === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-184.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db440cc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === gery13 [i=xbnwkjbr@nezmar.netlab.cz] has left #launchpad [] === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === cprov-afk is now known as prov === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:10] good morning ! === barry-away is now known as barr1 === ddaa [n=david@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === prov is now known as cprov === jamesh [n=james@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === barr1 is now known as barry-away === barry-away is now known as barr1 === barr1 is now known as barry === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-233-130.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.3.130.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [12:52] oi [12:53] yawn :) === cprov wonders why the channel is so quite today [12:53] cprov: don't worry, in 7 minutes it will be quite noisy [12:53] :-) [12:54] carlos: ehe, I hope so === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [12:56] mrevell: I'll add your item to the agenda. [12:56] SteveA: thanks [12:56] mrevell: when you propose items, please leave the template item intact. [12:56] like [12:56] * description of item (name of proposer) [12:56] that makes it clear what to do for the next person [12:56] hi [12:56] me + 6m [12:56] SteveA: will do, sorry [12:57] kiko-anti-geneva: use ntp! [12:57] carlos, that's a time-travelling protocol? [12:58] mpt: it's more a 'get your computer clock sync with all people time' so the script works as expected ;-) === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [12:58] carlos: I want something which changes other people's clocks === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #launchpad [12:59] kiko: I think they call that a "ring 0 ntp server" or something like that... [12:59] ddaa: "stratum 0"? [12:59] right [12:59] danilos: something like that, yes [01:00] mpt: careful. i've borrowed the keys to guido's time machine before. i pre-fixed the bug but ended up with wings and a purple nose, so time travel can be a bit dangerous === CodeDragon [n=None@195.134.12.229] has joined #launchpad [01:00] Welcome to this week's launchpad development meeting! [01:00] me [01:00] welcome SteveA as our hose [01:00] barry: that will make you easy to spot at company meetings [01:00] ddaa: i recovered :) [01:00] barry, can I have a ride? [01:00] me [01:00] and kiko-anti-geneva as chief cock adjuster [01:00] s/cock/clock/ [01:01] who's here today? [01:01] SteveA: !!! [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] this is like that scene in "the sound of music", but all stuck on the same note [01:01] thanks SteveA [01:02] == Agenda == [01:02] * Roll call [01:02] * Agenda [01:02] * Next meeting [01:02] * Activity reports [01:02] * Actions from last meeting [01:02] * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:02] * Bug report (mpt) [01:02] * Bug tags [01:02] * Production and staging (Stuart) [01:02] * Launchpad 1.0 status reports [01:02] * Sysadmin requests [01:02] ---- [01:02] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [01:02] * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell) [01:02] * (other items) [01:02] ---- [01:02] * Three sentences [01:02] [01:02] next meeting, same time same place next week [01:02] anyone know they'll be absent? [01:02] tim and jml aren't here. who is today's envoy for the bzr-launchpad team? [01:02] sprint in Brazil [01:02] but we'll probably be around for the meeting [01:03] we'll be around and round [01:03] danilos: it isn't too early ... [01:03] ddaa was the nominated envoy. [01:03] thanks. maybe you can give a brief report on how the brazil sprint is going? [01:03] thanks ddaa [01:03] * Activity reports [01:03] me? [01:03] I'm not up to date [01:03] or next week? [01:03] SteveA: sure [01:03] I'm sprinting [01:03] SteveA: me, jury duty [01:03] uptodate [01:03] yay [01:03] up to date [01:03] not up to date [01:03] I'm still behind [01:03] up to date [01:03] up to date [01:03] I'm up to date, but I'm guilty of batching. [01:03] up to dadte [01:03] up to date [01:03] up to date, sent a summary with all my missing reports. [01:03] I'm not up to date [01:04] up to date === ddaa has no report of whether tim and jml are up to date, checking [01:04] I'm up to date [01:04] [01:04] up2date [01:04] [01:04] up to date [01:04] == People who were lax with activity reporting last week == [01:04] * danilos [01:04] * jamesh [01:04] * kiko [01:04] * matsubara === Znarl_ [n=znarl@jewel.roundabout.org] has joined #launchpad [01:04] * static [01:04] * SteveA [01:04] [01:04] hello [01:05] repeaters are SteveA, statis, jamesh, danilos [01:05] well done matsubara for getting back on track with activity reports [01:05] danilos: please restart after the sprint [01:05] thumper uptodate [01:05] SteveA: sure, I am sending some right now [01:05] jamesh, static, please start again today [01:05] jml not up to date [01:05] hi jml. if it's late/early there, you don't need to be here because ddaa is representing the bzr-launchpad team. [01:06] but you're most welcome if you want to be here [01:06] * Actions from last meeting [01:06] there were none [01:06] * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:06] I was going to talk about bugs 82938 and 82944, but thumper already took the former and danilos fix committed the later. Thanks guys. Good job! [01:06] Malone bug 82938 in launchpad-bazaar "The ~vcs-imports/+registeredbranches page exceeded its hardlimit and is now broken." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82938 - Assigned to Tim Penhey (thumper) [01:06] Malone bug 82944 in rosetta "Missing tag in launchpad.conf for production[2,3,4] causes oops." [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82944 - Assigned to (danilo) [01:06] SteveA jamesh' sprinting [01:06] SteveA: thanks. I'll just observe :) [01:06] Related to beta.launchpad.net, there was some timeouts on code.beta.launchpad.net, which stub fixed by adding new indexes to the Branch table. === diogenes [n=diogenes@hoas-fe35dd00-37.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #launchpad [01:07] matsubara: I still need to ask for that to be cherrypicked [01:07] Apart from that oops are pretty much under control. The only one still bothering me is the timeout in the +translate page, but I'm sure mpt will address that ;-) [01:07] danilos: please do. [01:08] kiko-anti-geneva: thanks for pointing that out. so, jamesh should re-start activity reports after the sprints [01:08] address that in his Bug report report, I meant [01:08] matsubara: mpt? isn't kiko working on it? [01:08] I'm done here SteveA [01:08] carlos yeah, I am. [01:08] thanks matsubara [01:09] * Bug report (mpt) [01:09] carlos: yes, I meant, he'll nag kiko about that [01:09] There are 2045 known bugs in Launchpad without released fixes, of which 10 are Critical. Of these, the oldest six are: [01:09] * Bug 30602 (Timeout errors in +translate), Critical, In Progress, kiko [01:09] Malone bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko) [01:09] matsubara: oh, I see :) [01:09] there you go [01:09] kiko, nag nag nag, etc. Did you land your first lot of fixes? [01:09] no. [01:09] matsubara: :-) [01:09] * Bug 46982 (Need to support KDE like plural forms), Critical, Confirmed, danilo [01:09] Malone bug 46982 in rosetta "Need to support KDE like plural forms" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 - Assigned to (danilo) [01:09] it doesn't entirely work yet either! [01:09] danilo or carlos, there is a request for an ETA in that bug report. Could you reply to it, so that KDE translators don't give up on Launchpad as a lost cause? :-) [01:10] mpt: I'd love to, but ask kiko about ETAs and me :) [01:10] kiko-anti-geneva, will it start working soon? [01:10] mpt: it depends on danilo completely. I cannot help there right now [01:10] kiko, what's this I hear about ETAs and danilos? [01:10] * Bug #48813 (Efficiently mirroring sftp hosted branches with minimal latency), Critical, In Progress, jml [01:10] * Bug #49989 (branch puller reports failure for new hosted branches), Critical, In Progress, jml [01:10] Malone bug 48813 in launchpad-bazaar "Efficiently mirroring sftp hosted branches with minimal latency" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48813 - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml-mumak) [01:10] Malone bug 49989 in launchpad-bazaar "branch puller reports failure for new hosted branches" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49989 - Assigned to Jonathan Lange (jml-mumak) [01:10] mpt: in all honesty though, firefox is getting up for review, and the next fix after that is that bug [01:10] jml, will either of those be fixed over the next week? [01:11] mpt: we cannot say when will it be done if we don't know when will it be started (hopefully, we should be able to start once we are back from Brazil) [01:11] mpt: most likely [01:11] jml, both of them, even? :-) [01:11] danilos: I wonder whether should I a take care of it while you do OO.org support [01:11] mpt: they are both _almost_ the same bug [01:11] kiko-anti-geneva, ok, as long as you're still working on it [01:11] mpt: so, yes. [01:11] cool [01:12] mpt: (currently waiting on reviews and for a db patch to land) [01:12] * Bug #74839 (Dropdown menus in 1.0 UI do not drop down), Critical, Confirmed, mpt [01:12] Malone bug 74839 in launchpad "Dropdown menus in 1.0 UI do not drop down" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74839 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) [01:12] This is still hanging around (or not hanging around) and I don't have a good excuse. I'll try to fix this first thing when I wake up today. [01:12] mpt: I'll look at this today [01:12] * Bug #78033 (private), Critical, Unconfirmed, mpt [01:12] Bug 78033 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/78033 is private [01:12] I don't think this is Critical, but I'll look at this today too. [01:12] carlos: well, we can sure arrange that (my plan was to make KDE support automatic so as not to add a new import/export mode, but recognize such files on-the-fly) [01:12] And that's all. Thanks SteveA. [01:12] mpt: it is critical. people don't realize that oops pages on beta are oops pages [01:13] it doesn't need to be a private bug [01:13] ok then. [01:13] so, essentially, our oops pages on beta aren't working [01:13] danilos: let's talk about it next week in Brazil [01:13] carlos: sure [01:13] mpt: finished the report? [01:13] yes. [01:13] thank you mpt [01:14] * Bug tags [01:14] no proposed new tags this week [01:14] * Production and staging (Stuart) [01:14] All the systems are behaving themselves (launchpad.net, staging.launchpad.net, edge.launchpad.net, beta.launchpad.net) which is nice, except for the mirror prober which had been having trouble. A final cherry pick is needed to stop it sending email until we are more confident with it. [01:14] The staging database has been moved to Carbon, so edge and beta should no longer have any load issues when the staging database is being rebuilt. [01:14] The launchpad_langpack database has been rebuilt and ready for testing updated open-feisty-for-translation scripts when they are ready. [01:14] Next full production rollout will be done once pending database patches have been collected and landed. Maybe tomorrow, maybe Monday I hope. Downtime should be the usual 10 mins. I expect at the very least some database patches will be mereged to launchpad/devel tomorrow which will stop edge code updates until the production rollout is completed. [01:14] how is demo.launchpad.net ? [01:14] stub: are carlos and myself able to access launchpad_langpack db again? [01:14] jamesh: ? [01:15] stub: when will we be ready for a database-patch-drought [01:15] ? [01:15] danilos: I never revoked your access. Carlos has been testing, so he certainly has access. [01:15] SteveA: nothing new to report. It has the Zope 3 bug import running on it, but I haven't had any feedback from the zope guys in a week [01:15] stub: psql is not working [01:15] carlos: ? [01:15] mrevell: please ping the zope people [01:15] stub: although scripts work... [01:15] let's get this finished [01:15] SteveA: Depends on when the final db patches land. There is one still I need to review, and I think one more that hasn't got to my review queue yet. [01:15] the two db patches from jml (branch mirror request and branch-revision) need to go in before drought [01:15] mrevell: I'm waiting on responses and will continue to chase [01:16] carlos: That would be user error I'm afraid. [01:16] ok. thanks stub === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [01:16] * Launchpad 1.0 status reports [01:16] carlos@carbon:~$ psql -d launchpad_langpack -U ro [01:16] psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "ro" [01:16] stub: ^^^ [01:17] same problem with rosettaadmin [01:17] Rosetta 1.0 weekly report: [01:17] - firefox import/export: part by part up for review (DB patch, more cleanups) [01:17] - oo import/export: no progress this week [01:17] - essential docs: no progress this week [01:17] - TranslationImportContinuityThreshold: no progress this week [01:17] carlos: please sort this out with stub outside the meeting [01:17] - UI stuff: bug 79674 (no progress, start page modified, new page missing) [01:17] Malone bug 79674 in rosetta "List translatable upstreams on separate page, sample on front page" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79674 - Assigned to (danilo) [01:17] UI 1.0: [01:17] * Much of structural object children done, thanks to SteveA. [01:17] * Application front pages still being re-redesigned. [01:17] * Pillargotchis still missing. (salgado?) [01:17] Malone 1.0: [01:17] malone-essential-docs: No progress since last week. bjornt still to send an e-mail to matthew r describing what information the different sections should contain in more detail. [01:17] stub: ok, sorry [01:17] Support^WAnswer Tracker 1.0 [01:17] SupportTrackerRename: in progress, all of UI was renamed, missing URLs, code and doc updates. [01:18] = Soyuz-1.0 Report = [01:18] * Archive Rework: tested SoyuzTestSystem, waiting for sprint [01:18] * PPA backend: pending pass over SoyuzSystemTest (ACL and better policy [01:18] checks) and waiting for sprint. [01:18] * Fixes Done this week: [01:18] * #59443 (do not announce uploads to BACKPORTS & announce SECURITY): [01:18] RF 4511 + RF 4517, cherrypicked in drescher (cprov, r=flacoste) [01:18] * #76591 (Reliable PackageRelationShip parser/render): [01:18] RF 4516 + RF 4522 (cprov, r=spiv) [01:18] * Fix #82798 (/+last-uploads restricted by the distrorelease context) [01:18] RF 4514 (cprov, 1.0) [01:18] * Incoming Fixes: [01:18] * #74965 (failure on +queue page permission check for empty queues): [01:18] needs-review (cprov, r=jamesh) [01:18] * #82389 (Store the person who signed the changes file in an upload): [01:18] needs-review (cprov. r=bjornt) [01:18] mpt, I have a branch here which uses the icons on all pillar pages. just need to finish it; shouldn't be more than a few hours work [01:18] * #83548 (feisty non-release pockets need to be regenerated): [01:18] needs-review (cprov, r=spiv) [01:18] * #62584 (Deathrow doesn't guarantee stay of execution time): [01:18] needs-review (cprov, r=spiv) [01:19] thank you [01:19] * Sysadmin requests [01:19] 5 [01:19] 4 [01:19] salgado, neat :-) Remember the icon in main-template.pt too. [01:19] 3 [01:19] 2 [01:19] 1 [01:19] ok [01:19] * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell) [01:19] We had two main user-affecting issues this week: [01:19] * we removed unnecessary translation packages from Ubuntu [01:19] * we fixed the somewhat long-running PO export issue. [01:19] Interestingly, so far, we've had more feedback on the removal of translation packages. This was another issue where we were able to learn the benefits of communicating up-front with our users. [01:19] Both issues confirmed the need for the previously discussed status page and about.launchpad.net. Thanks for people's feedback on those. [01:20] what was the "unnecessary translation packages" thing? [01:20] SteveA: carlos can explain more fully than I can [01:20] unnecessary for what? [01:20] mrevell: positive feedback is always more scarce than negative feedback [01:20] salgado, mpt: why isn't the person's hackergotchi used as the "context image" (in place of the orange square)? [01:20] SteveA: we removed documentation and .deb package template translations that were not used at all in Ubuntu [01:21] so translators can focus on resources Ubuntu can actually use [01:21] ok [01:21] and what was the reaction? [01:21] kiko-anti-geneva, right, that's what I meant by "the icon in main-template.pt". [01:21] kiko-anti-geneva, because I'm using the nyet image for all of them. (the branch I have here uses the correct one, though) [01:21] SteveA: People wondered why the number of packages still to translate had dropped. [01:21] they said 'the amount of things to translate has been reduced'! [01:21] SteveA: We explained and they were okay. [01:21] I see [01:21] thank you [01:21] mpt, that's not the orange square [01:21] * Launchpad buzz report (mrevell) [01:21] Each week, I shall post a report, to the launchpad ML, about Launchpad's usage and what people are saying about it. I posted the first last night, followed by a corrected version this morning. [01:21] Please let me know if you would like me to use this meeting to post brief highlights from the report. [01:22] salgado rocks as usual [01:22] mrevell: kiko you and I should talk about posting that report to launchpad-users in future [01:22] mrevell: is that report supposed to be private? === carlos just wonders [01:22] carlos: The first one was, just to test the waters [01:23] ok [01:23] mrevell: if it's going to launchpad ML, we are all going to read it sooner or later... maybe if there's something urgent for people to know about... [01:23] ddaa: Okay, that sounds reasonable. [01:23] * (other items) [01:23] SteveA: Yes, I'll organise a meeting, if you'd like me to [01:23] heno: anything from you today? [01:23] SteveA: what about the switch to beta as mainline? === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #Launchpad [01:23] SteveA: no, nothing new [01:24] flacoste: that happens as soon as we have a database-patch-drought [01:24] great! [01:24] we are running more LP style meeting i the ubuntu team now though :) [01:24] so, it's blocked on these patches in stub's queue, or shortly before stub's queue [01:24] short and structured :) [01:24] heno: interesting. I'd like to have a call with you about that after this meeting. [01:25] SteveA: great, please do [01:25] we're running very much ahead of time today [01:25] so, thank you everyone for being well-prepared and keeping discussions brief [01:25] yay, early bedtime [01:25] * Three sentences [01:25] DONE: nearly vanquished launchpad.css, structural children [01:25] TODO: bug fixes, app front page changes, finish off launchpad.css [01:25] BLOCKED: no [01:25] DONE: Returned from BZR NL sprint, produced generic brochures for Bazaar and Launchpad, produced then corrected first Launchpad buzz report. [01:25] TO DO: Bazaar quick-start guides/tutorials, FiF, review static's Take a Tour page content, finalise elevator pitches with static, chase Zope's Christian re Zope import, Rosetta presentation in time for SkyCon, travel to SkyCon. [01:25] BLOCKED: None. [01:25]