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Viper550Anyone here?12:45
troy_s.12:58
Viper550Just got Dapper up and running on VMware Server for a little project I'm doing12:59
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kwwiimoin08:08
kwwiiso...which version of the logo should I put on the usplash08:08
elkbuntukwwii, hmm?08:14
kwwiielkbuntu: well, I want to put artwork in for the next herd08:14
kwwiiso I have to do it today08:14
kwwii;-)08:14
elkbuntukwwii, ok. what are the choices?08:14
kwwiioh, I've made quite a few versions by now08:15
kwwiisomething like 30 or so08:15
elkbuntukwwii, and i know where 0 of them are :08:15
kwwiihttp://sinecera.de/UbuntuLogo3c.png is some of them08:16
kwwiinot all of them are online08:16
elkbuntuim partial to the third or fourth in the first column08:17
elkbuntuerrr. fourth or fifth08:18
elkbuntusorry08:18
kwwii;-)08:18
elkbuntufifth is easiest on the eyes amidst the busyness, but the fourth is more realistic08:18
Madpilotkwwii, I like the one right in the middle - 3rd down, 2nd column08:19
Madpilotmost of the 1st column look muddy or blurry, somehow08:19
elkbuntuMadpilot, yeah, except the white outer blur on black aches my eyes08:19
Madpilotelkbuntu, they've all got that08:20
kwwiielkbuntu: I am afraid that I will have to use some kind of blur, as changing the color of the text to grey is not really acceptable08:20
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elkbuntuoh, and s/white/grey/08:21
elkbuntuthe white blur is better than the grey blur..08:22
elkbuntucol3 row3 is good, would be better with slight mirror effect08:22
kwwiithat is the one I am working on now08:23
kwwiinote that this does not have to be final now, just a first version08:24
elkbuntuyep. but drastic changes will peeve people08:24
Madpilotpeeving people with artwork changes is not always a bad thing - it gets attention ;)08:25
elkbuntuMadpilot, considering the 'controversy' surrounding edgy's artwork, it wouldnt be the wisest thing for ubuntu right now08:26
elkbuntukwwii, although, your ambit methods have worked for you in the past ;)08:26
kwwiiwell, once I include something it will stay in that direction08:26
kwwiiI won't completely change it again08:26
elkbuntukwwii, do you have an idea of where the desktop art is going? keeping the same style throughout the whole distro would be nice08:28
kwwiisure, that would be very nice, but a lot of work08:28
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BHSPitMonkeyI like c2r3, and c3r108:28
kwwiiI've only been working for canonical for two and half weeks now ;-)08:28
BHSPitMonkeyand c3r208:29
BHSPitMonkeyalthough I know the gloss is going to meet opposition with a lot of design zealots08:29
BHSPitMonkey(I personally don't have anything against it; I like it.  Though, I see why some hate having it embellished.08:30
BHSPitMonkey...)08:30
elkbuntuBHSPitMonkey, in all honesty, it is the flavor of the month08:30
BHSPitMonkeys/the month/2006/    ;)08:31
BHSPitMonkeybut yeah08:31
elkbuntuBHSPitMonkey, s/2006/2006-2007/08:32
elkbuntuhalf year sees in 2007-2008 ;)08:32
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kwwiias there is little time I have basically tried to evolve the artwork from edgy08:33
BHSPitMonkeyI like Vista's appearance a lot... but I don't/won't use the Vista looks in linux08:33
BHSPitMonkeyThe very fact that it's Windows repels me from the otherwise likable design :/08:34
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BHSPitMonkeyI haven't seen it firsthand, either08:34
BHSPitMonkeybut screenshots / screenvids do enough08:34
elkbuntuBHSPitMonkey, heh, i've avoided those like the plague08:35
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BHSPitMonkeyAw, earlier today I saw a video on youtube, of someone playing with Beryl on Ubuntu with a touchscreen monitor :D08:35
BHSPitMonkeyIt was... tingly feelings... I...08:35
elkbuntuthat would be fun08:35
BHSPitMonkeyit was configured so that dragging on the desktop rotated the cube08:35
BHSPitMonkeyhe just tossed it around, and wobbled windows at his pleasure08:36
elkbuntuthat would be annoying08:36
BHSPitMonkeywell08:36
BHSPitMonkeyI dunno how it was configured, because later he drew a selection box around some icons.08:36
BHSPitMonkeymaybe he had some kind of double-click or gestural setup08:36
BHSPitMonkeybut the ease with which he just tossed the cube around, and manipulated windows08:37
BHSPitMonkeyI can't wait for Multitouch + Eye Candy + Linux08:37
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nysosymhi there09:24
andreasnhey nysosym09:30
nysosymhi andreasnd :)09:30
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nysosymhi BHSPitLappy :)09:35
BHSPitMonkey_hi09:36
BHSPitMonkey_bedtime for me.09:36
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nysosymgood night :)09:38
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lizardking_Hi01:19
lizardking_I put online new repository for OranSun, because Daniel's repo does not handle the new changes.01:19
lizardking_  deb http://www.iacopomasi.net/repo ./  here is the repo01:20
lizardking_here is the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/OranSun01:20
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alefterishi, everyone! I have notised that for some icons in the ubuntu-icons theme the coresponting svgs are missing.. why is that?03:28
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kwwiialefteris: probably because they were made by someone who did not give up svgs04:22
alefteriskwwii, I made one (it was rather simple, Im not an artist..), can i put it in a seperate branch so that it can be included?04:24
kwwiialefteris: you mean you made an svg of an existing icon or you made a new icon?04:25
alefterisi made a new svg based on another one, so that there is a scalaple version of the information-dialog icon04:26
alefterisjust needed to make one for an ubuntu drupal theme :)04:27
kwwiisure, make a branch...the only thing to note is that it needs to be of good enough quality to include (ie it cannot look very different from the icon it is supposed to represent)04:28
kwwiior if it does look different it has to be good enough to replace the other pixmap based icon04:28
kwwiimost likely the icons without svgs were paid for04:28
alefteriskwwii, the icons tha exists already is 16x16, and the svg that i made can produse a good icon for that size i supose04:30
kwwiiI am not trying to be negative, just trying to avoid promising to include something that I haven't seen yet ;-)04:30
alefteriscan't produse04:30
kwwiiusually you have to make a seperate svg at a smaller size for the smaller icons04:31
alefteriskwwii, anyway its nothing.. in the time that i spent talking to you you could have made 10 of them..04:31
kwwiimaking the lines and forms line up on the raster04:31
kwwiihehe04:31
kwwiialefteris: make a branch and post it04:31
alefterisi just ask if it is ok, i dont care if it is cona be included04:31
kwwiior post it and then make a branch04:31
kwwiioh, it is totally ok to make a branch04:31
alefteriskwwii, also when someone makes a branch, only tha changes are saved actually in the server?04:33
kwwiialefteris: yes, Iif I understand bzr right that is how it works04:33
kwwiis/lif/if04:33
kwwiiI am still somewhat new to this stuff too ;-)04:34
alefterisok i asked because every time i push, it takes so much time.. maybe it aploads everything and then checks the differences on the server and saves them..04:35
kwwiiyeah, probably04:36
kwwiii noticed that it is slow too04:36
alefterisalso, the themes that are used for the website (moin, planet, forum themes) would be nice if they where available as a lanchpad product04:37
alefterisso that people can use them for the loco websites and possibly impove them04:38
alefterisI'm planing to do this for the drupal v5 theme that Im making..04:38
kwwiialefteris: that is a very good point04:38
kwwiinot sure who to talk to about that though04:40
kwwiiperhaps I can find out04:40
alefterisyeah, that would be great, its one of the thing that are asked all the time by the new loco teams and It hard to get hold of those resorses.. I managed to find some by themes that other teams have made.. and they have little differences from the ones used in ubuntu.com04:42
alefterisif they are in bazaar they can be updated for new versions of the themes engines.. for example the ubuntu moinmoin theme that I have found had some issues with new versions of moin..04:44
kwwiiI'll try to find out about this stuff...have a meeting in a few minutes though04:48
alefterisok04:48
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alefterishttp://www.ubuntu-gr.org/Wiki/Community/Marketing/ einai to tmhma sto wiki mas gia to marketing..05:39
alefterissorry, wrong channel :)05:39
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troy_skwwii06:11
kwwiihowdy troy_s06:11
troy_show goes things bro?06:11
kwwiipretty well, waiting for inkscape to render this darn wallpaper06:12
troy_swtf is my ghost still doing idling around... grr.06:12
troy_sahh good.06:12
kwwii3:15 minutes now06:12
troy_sthat's a lot of objects apparently06:12
kwwiiactually only 506:12
troy_ssomething is borked... just blurs????06:13
kwwiiblurs06:13
kwwiithe blur combined with gradients and transparency seems to suck06:13
troy_swow... i have one that is entirely custom shapes and blurs and it doesn't take that long.06:13
troy_sah.06:13
troy_sthat is probably it...06:13
kwwiionce it is done I'll upload a branch06:13
troy_si bet it is the trans and blur06:13
kwwiianyway...time to cook dinner06:13
kwwiidon't want my son to go hungry ;-)06:14
kwwiibe back in a while06:14
kwwiialso, I included a first version of the usplash today06:14
troy_saight06:14
troy_sdid you get the compile done for amd64 too?06:14
kwwiichanged the bg and the bg of the progress bar (not too sure about that though)06:14
kwwiiyeah, they fixed the amd64 stuff06:14
kwwiiso it works with the normal graphics06:14
troy_si downed the sources from the gdm i repaired...06:14
kwwiicool06:15
troy_si'll have a branch pushed for you soon, but i am going to have a day of work today i think.06:15
kwwiihehe, no problem06:15
troy_snot that i really feel like it, but i think i have committed.06:15
kwwiilol06:15
kwwiiok, gotta run, be back in a bit06:16
troy_saye06:16
troy_sCRAP06:26
troy_skwwii06:26
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troy_skwwii check out Donn's application icon.  We have some talent in the crew.08:10
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nysosymhi there09:50
nysosymi see usplash has an update, with new graphics, which graphics are new? I can't install feisty... :-/09:51
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nysosymwb PseudoPlacebo09:54
PseudoPlaceboThanks.09:54
PseudoPlacebo=] 09:54
kwwiire10:27
kwwiisorry that took so long10:27
kwwiitroy_s: yeah, I saw that icon he made10:28
kwwiialthough he is probably a better graphic artist than icon designer at this time10:28
kwwiibut that is something one can learn ;-)10:28
kwwiiif the talent is there10:28
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