| kylem | huh, SLES10 uses 2.6.16 | 12:20 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | 2.6.20-6.11 - Things are getting solid now. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. | ||
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| Keybuk | so my machine doesn't actually halt/poweroff/reboot at the end of the shutdown process | 12:10 |
| Keybuk | is that my fault or the kernel's? | 12:10 |
| snail | Keybuk: "fault" is not the word you're after | 12:13 |
| snail | have you googled for your motherboard name and ubuntu? | 12:14 |
| Keybuk | it worked yesterday :p | 12:14 |
| mjg59 | Keybuk: Kernels | 12:16 |
| mjg59 | Probably | 12:16 |
| mjg59 | At least, there's definitely a bug that can trigger that sort of thing | 12:16 |
| mjg59 | Easiest test is to go single user and then try halt -p | 12:16 |
| Keybuk | actually, I think it's my fault | 12:17 |
| cjwatson | try booting with reboot=b, too | 12:17 |
| cjwatson | if that fixes it, a quirk could be added | 12:18 |
| Keybuk | reboot --debug -f works just fine | 12:18 |
| Keybuk | so, adding debugging code fixed it | 12:22 |
| === Keybuk weeps | ||
| Keybuk | I didn't even touch reboot(8) | 12:23 |
| Keybuk | it's failing in log_action_msg | 12:28 |
| Keybuk | I really don't understand what's broken here | 12:32 |
| snail | Keybuk: report it as a bug in launchpad with all the details | 12:39 |
| Keybuk | that wouldn't help :p | 12:39 |
| snail | Keybuk: it won't help you in the short term, no | 12:39 |
| mjg59 | snail: You realise keybuk is a senior developer on the Canonical payroll, right? | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | snail: Keybuk is the author of the code in question | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | at least of reboot(8) | 12:40 |
| snail | i had no idea | 12:40 |
| snail | sorry, i've been firefighting too long in #ubuntu | 12:41 |
| mjg59 | If he filed the bug, he'd just need to fix it himself anyway :) | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | I frankly wouldn't know what to put in the bug report | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | "stuff that worked just fine yesterday, and hasn't been changed, now doesn't" | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | "yet is completely repeatable, and if I revert unrelated things, then it works again" | 12:42 |
| cjwatson | it's feature freeze; of course stuff is falling over randomly with no reason | 12:42 |
| Keybuk | I see you ordered snow especially ;p | 12:42 |
| === Keybuk rewrote shutdown yesterday ... but all that does is send upstart an event | ||
| Keybuk | so that shouldn't be any different, damnit | 12:44 |
| snail | Keybuk: divide and conquer on the unrelated things to find out which is breaking things? | 12:45 |
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| Keybuk | init: event_finished: Finished runlevel event | 01:21 |
| Keybuk | init: event_emit: Pending runlevel/failed event | 01:22 |
| Keybuk | ok, now that's interesting | 01:22 |
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| Keybuk | ok, that's just a bug | 01:31 |
| Keybuk | it's because logd "failed" by being killed | 01:31 |
| Keybuk | heh | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | well, I said it was an unrelated change that broke it | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | that's the problem -- logd wasn't running, so log_action_msg was failing | 01:35 |
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| kylem | morning. | 03:13 |
| fabbione | hey kylem | 03:14 |
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| BenC | hey hyle | 04:00 |
| BenC | err, kyle | 04:00 |
| fabbione | hyle = kyle->html ? | 04:02 |
| JanC | no, hyle is the wrong spelling for heil... :) | 04:09 |
| kylem | morning. | 04:10 |
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| === BenC is preparing to upload -7.12 | ||
| kylem | BenC, what's our plan for updates to the feisty kernel now that we won't be pulling regularly from upstream git? | 04:18 |
| BenC | kylem: selective syncs | 04:18 |
| BenC | pretty much the core kernel is frozen, but we'll continue to update ubuntu/* drivers as they release 2.6.20 compatible tarballs | 04:19 |
| kylem | (i'm thinking about a few things in particular, i've got cxgb merged into ubuntu/ in my tree.) | 04:19 |
| kylem | ((and i made sure it wasn't html this time.)) | 04:19 |
| BenC | hehe | 04:20 |
| BenC | yeah, those sorts of things are still good | 04:20 |
| fabbione | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/83982 | 04:35 |
| fabbione | ^^ this is interesting | 04:35 |
| fabbione | BenC: can you upload that LTP fix directly? | 04:37 |
| fabbione | BenC: otherwise i guess i can do it on the fly | 04:37 |
| kylem | uh. | 04:37 |
| kylem | can we get him to test with a real file. | 04:37 |
| kylem | you know, one that isn't a fucking sparse file. idiots. | 04:37 |
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| kylem | soooo why isn't alsa-firmware in universe... | 04:43 |
| crimsun | I'll try to get that through today | 04:51 |
| kylem | is here anything i can do to help? | 04:51 |
| crimsun | yes, you can review it (i.e., comment), and advocate it for inclusion if you feel it's up to par | 04:53 |
| kylem | ok. | 04:53 |
| crimsun | (all ubuntu-dev members are already in the keyring; you may need to choose Recover Password to get your REVU password) | 04:54 |
| crimsun | it only takes 2 advocates to upload the new package | 04:54 |
| kylem | k | 04:56 |
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| kylem | BenC, did you just do a l-s-2.6.20 upload? | 05:07 |
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| BenC | kylem: Packaged one, just waiting for test build/boot to finish before uploading | 05:08 |
| kylem | k. | 05:08 |
| kylem | sorry, using some of the idle meeting cycles to go through my assignedbugs list. | 05:08 |
| pwnguin | so its been a long time since i last compiled and installed a kernel. did the make system change a bit? | 05:09 |
| kylem | pwnguin, not really, fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours=flav1,flav2 is what i do for test builds when i don't want to wait for debuild... | 05:10 |
| pwnguin | i pulled straight from git | 05:10 |
| kylem | that'll still work | 05:11 |
| pwnguin | so it will | 05:11 |
| pwnguin | the flavor is like generic i hope | 05:11 |
| kylem | BenC, who should i subscribe to bugs about firmware licensing? | 05:12 |
| BenC | me and matt | 05:12 |
| BenC | pwnguin: See team link in topic | 05:12 |
| BenC | go to knowledge base, there's a doc there on building from git | 05:12 |
| pwnguin | what a strange layout | 05:13 |
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| kylem | remind me to hurt david howells next time i see him. | 05:31 |
| kylem | i for got how much i hated this INIT_WORK changes. | 05:31 |
| kylem | if i had to guess, this is the problematic line: | 05:36 |
| kylem | ieee->set_chan(ieee->dev,ieee->current_network.channel); | 05:36 |
| kylem | kyle@athena:...u-2.6.git/ubuntu/wireless/rtl_ieee80211% vi rtl_ieee80211_softmac.c | 05:36 |
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| kylem | BenC, this might help, dunno: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kyle/r8180-ieee80211-dev.diff | 05:49 |
| mjg59 | Hm. | 05:51 |
| mjg59 | It's kind of tempting to grab a couple more Broadcom cards. | 05:51 |
| mjg59 | Though the only 4311 I can find is 30 | 05:51 |
| kylem | eheh. crazy bastard. | 05:52 |
| mjg59 | kylem: Discussion on the lists makes it look like they're getting a handle on the 4311/2/8 issues | 05:53 |
| kylem | nice. | 05:53 |
| kylem | about darn time. | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | Hm. Think I can get Canonical to pay? :) | 05:54 |
| BenC | mjg59: Hell, you might get Canonical employees to pay :) | 05:57 |
| BenC | kylem: Or maybe just (priv)? | 05:57 |
| BenC | kylem: Did we change that bit of code, or is that stock? | 05:58 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Heh | 05:58 |
| mjg59 | Looks like total cost would be 45 (or about $10000000000000) | 05:58 |
| BenC | kylem: netdev_priv() seems to be duped by rtl_ieee80211_priv() | 05:58 |
| BenC | heh | 05:58 |
| kylem | BenC, i don't see anything obviously wrong with any of it. | 05:59 |
| BenC | kylem: neither did I | 05:59 |
| BenC | but it worked in edgy, same code | 05:59 |
| BenC | so workqueue is my best guess | 05:59 |
| kylem | i had thought the *ieee got corrupted, but it seems not. | 06:00 |
| mjg59 | Enf. | 06:04 |
| mjg59 | Someone's presumably going to have to port these to something sensible at some stage | 06:04 |
| kylem | hmm? | 06:04 |
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| mjg59 | kylem: Not the hacked rtl-ieee80211 | 06:06 |
| kylem | oh. right. | 06:06 |
| kylem | i swear to god, when i'm fucking supreme dictator of the earth, everyone responsible for the linux wireless mess will be first up against the god damned wall. | 06:07 |
| mjg59 | kylem: http://cgi.ebay.com/VCTnet-AirXpress-802-11b-WLAN-WiFi-Card-PC11BR_W0QQitemZ290022770466QQihZ019QQcategoryZ74954QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem | 06:10 |
| mjg59 | kylem: That seems to be an rtl8180 | 06:10 |
| kylem | i need a laptop to put it in too. ;p | 06:10 |
| mjg59 | Oh man. | 06:10 |
| kylem | haha. $9.99 + $30 USD shipping. | 06:10 |
| mjg59 | Don't you still have the X30? | 06:11 |
| kylem | yeah, crashing my work machine every 10 minutes isn't terribly productive ;P | 06:11 |
| kylem | christ. so when fedora specs that they want pimping wireless in FC7 | 06:11 |
| kylem | they really mean "pimping wireless for the shitty in-tree drivers" | 06:11 |
| mjg59 | Ah | 06:12 |
| kylem | at least their wiki is finally unbroken. | 06:12 |
| mjg59 | Link? | 06:13 |
| kylem | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureWirelessFirmware?highlight=%28CategoryFedora7Features%29 | 06:13 |
| kylem | you'd think with the size of the workforce they have, they could be spending a little time improving this mess. | 06:13 |
| BenC | they list bcm43xx..hehe | 06:14 |
| kylem | muppetry. | 06:14 |
| BenC | bcm43xx firmware is such a lost cause...unless someone at broadcom finally gets a clue | 06:14 |
| BenC | "ipw3945, if upstream" | 06:15 |
| kylem | BenC, i mailed alan about HPA, waiting to hear back. | 06:15 |
| kylem | forgot to cc you and matthew, doh. | 06:15 |
| BenC | hopefully it's a nice reply and not a "pata is experimental you twit" reply :) | 06:16 |
| kylem | fedora is moving to libata-pata too... | 06:16 |
| BenC | or even worse "it's working in -mm, but you need all of libata-dev to use it" | 06:16 |
| kylem | i've looked... | 06:17 |
| kylem | nothing annoys me more than people who constantly merge their patch work git trees | 06:17 |
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| kylem | so you have to pull the tree and diff versus linus to find all their changes instead of just looking at recent things in shortlog. | 06:17 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: There's a patch that implements PM_TRACE for x86_64 on LKML | 06:49 |
| mjg59 | Any chance you can pick that up? | 06:49 |
| BenC | mjg59: Email it to me please? I'm trying to get the current tree uploaded, and I can pull it for this weekends upload | 06:49 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Ok | 06:49 |
| BenC | thanks | 06:49 |
| kylem | i vote we rm -rf ubuntu/... fedora seems to get away with it. | 06:56 |
| kylem | these drivers are such a fucking utter mess. | 06:56 |
| mjg59 | Eh, if you ignore wireless/ it's not too bad | 06:57 |
| kylem | quiet, i'm agonizing. | 06:57 |
| kylem | ;-) | 06:57 |
| kylem | BenC, i'm guessing there's some kind of race bringing up the network device now. | 06:57 |
| BenC | kylem: A race with the workqueue's? | 06:59 |
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| kylem | yeah, i don't see how, but i can't see any other way this could be occuring. | 06:59 |
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| kylem | BenC, did you get an lrm uploaded with that depmod fix? | 07:49 |
| BenC | kylem: It's following the kernel upload in about an hour | 07:50 |
| kylem | ok. | 07:50 |
| kylem | perfect. | 07:50 |
| BenC | just waiting for device-tree-manager to be in main | 07:50 |
| kylem | s/-manager/compiler? | 07:51 |
| BenC | err, yeah :) | 07:51 |
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| jaims | hi all | 09:39 |
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| zul | well that was fun.. | 11:08 |
| Nafallo | zul: working XEN or something? :-) | 11:08 |
| === Nafallo haven't had the nerve to try it lately ;-) | ||
| zul | no.. | 11:10 |
| doko | BenC: please could you have a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=408530 | 11:53 |
| BenC | doko: I'm at a loss on that bug report...anything in particular you wanted me to look at in there? | 11:55 |
| doko | BenC: the rh guy mentioned a possible kernel vulnerability | 11:55 |
| BenC | doko: Ah, I see | 11:57 |
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