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Admiral_Chicagohere was a prompt about a bug to me...anyone have the bug link?12:31
UbugtuNew bug: #83890 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes while bookmarking" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8389012:35
Admiral_Chicagotesting bug #83288 now.01:40
UbugtuMalone bug 83288 in mozilla-firefox-adblock "firefox adblock doesn't work" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8328801:40
Admiral_Chicagoi got the error01:51
Admiral_Chicagoit's a highly critical bug as well, why are we using that package is main anyways...01:52
UbugtuNew bug: #83903 in firefox (main) "FF crashes with Streamtuner and Mozilla?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8390301:56
Admiral_Chicagoit's a highly critical bug as well, why are we using that package is main anyways...02:05
Admiral_ChicagoAlexLatchford: ping?02:05
Admiral_Chicagoanyone around on QA?02:05
crimsunhi?02:52
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: can you mark bug #83903 as High importance?02:53
UbugtuMalone bug 83903 in firefox "FF crashes with Streamtuner and Mozilla?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8390302:53
Admiral_Chicagooops.. I mean Bug #8328802:53
UbugtuMalone bug 83288 in mozilla-firefox-adblock "firefox adblock doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8328802:53
crimsunheh02:54
crimsunbug 8328802:56
UbugtuMalone bug 83288 in mozilla-firefox-adblock "firefox adblock doesn't work" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8328802:56
Admiral_Chicagothanks02:57
Admiral_Chicagoseems like it should be removed from main.02:57
crimsunif it doesn't work at all, and there's no newer upstream version that does, I say we opt for a source+binary removal03:00
Admiral_Chicagoi checked upstream, http://adblock.mozdev.org/dev.html03:03
Admiral_Chicagoseems they don't test for 2.003:03
crimsunif they have plans to fix 2.0 compatibility, I'd say we could ask for its demotion to universe03:05
crimsunif they have no plans, we should strongly consider a source+binary removal03:05
Admiral_Chicagookay I'm still digging for information03:05
Admiral_Chicagohttp://www.mozdev.org/projects/active.html03:06
Admiral_Chicagoit's not an active project anymore03:06
Admiral_Chicagoaccording to that page.03:06
Admiral_Chicagowe should source + binary remove OR suggest it be replaced with adblock PLUS.03:07
Admiral_Chicagothe adblock forums are horrendous...03:10
Admiral_Chicagoi'm going to kill the next person to touch bug #8311803:14
UbugtuMalone bug 83118 in firefox "Some components are non-free" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8311803:14
Admiral_Chicagoit is not a *bug* against firefox. Fx does not decide how it applies it's trademarks, people do03:15
Admiral_Chicagowell I take that back, I'll believe Zimmerman03:16
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: just an idea, 1.5 is still ran by some users...03:23
Admiral_Chicagoi know some users are comfortable with it and just like it better03:23
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: that's moot, though. Users dist-upgrading who have FF 1.5 installed along with adblock would get upgraded to 2.0.0.1 automatically unless of course they put ff 1.5 on hold, in which case adblock wouldn't go anywhere.03:30
Admiral_Chicagotrue. hmm, I figure 99.9% will not put it on hold, it should be 2.0 in Edgy afaik anyways....03:50
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Admiral_Chicagoare we forgetting that dapper is LTS and as such we may need to keep mozilla-firefox-adblock?08:38
AlexLatchfordgrrr, its snowing here09:10
AlexLatchford2 inches now, got to go out driving soon09:10
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gnomefreakis it always this quiet this early :)09:36
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:gnomefreak] : Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team | Our page can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | The team is still under-construction.
AlexLatchfordits like 5am in the US11:06
AlexLatchfordso yeah11:06
gnomefreaki was up at 2am :(11:35
gnomefreakits 5:30ish11:36
Adri2000hi11:36
Adri2000gnomefreak: I'm not Albin Tonnerre, he is the one who prepared the mozilla-firefox-adblock and I uploaded it. he said fix committed because the package had juste been uploaded when he sent this message11:37
Adri2000s/mozilla-firefox-adblock/mozilla-firefox-adblock upload/11:44
Adri2000Admiral_Chicago: I don't think this bug needs high importance, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance, medium: "Has a severe impact on a non-core application"11:45
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: whens your next triage fun day?11:51
AlexLatchfordI dunno why?11:51
gnomefreakwe have set up 3 tags so far. retrace == if no debugging symbols found and coredump is included and so on here is the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/BugTags11:54
gnomefreakso far afaik we are only doing that for firefox and thunderbird  (atleast those are the ones i can do here on edgy atm11:55
AlexLatchfordaha ok, can you announce this to the mailing list?11:56
AlexLatchfordIll take a look at producing a few more tags11:56
gnomefreakyes i will be seding one out as soon as i have all links that have been worked on11:57
AlexLatchfordaha ok11:57
AlexLatchfordgonna go have a shower, cya11:57
gnomefreakasac: has been making a few wikis :)11:57
gnomefreakhave fun :)11:57
AlexLatchfordlinks?11:57
gnomefreakwhen i have them you will11:57
gnomefreakthats one of the only ones i have atm11:57
AlexLatchfordaha ok, found them :P11:58
asachelo ./12:26
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gnomefreakasac: hello :)12:33
asachi :)12:34
gnomefreakasac: uploaded a few of the retraces on bug 19552/ im grabbing more of the reports than heading out for a bit. im gonna be in and out through out the day12:34
UbugtuMalone bug 19552 in firefox "Crash after firefox is opening a new window (when it should open the new URL in the same window/tab) - No More Crash Report Please!" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955212:34
asacman ... the guy from bug 60236 is crazy12:35
UbugtuMalone bug 60236 in firefox "Firefox Segmentation Fault Requires Reboot" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6023612:35
asacwalter12:35
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gnomefreakguess he totally missed the point :( using upstream package never solves a problem because the problem still exsits in ubuntus version but eh.12:38
asache insist on installing something in /usr/lib12:41
asacand asks users to do so12:41
asacouch12:41
gnomefreakbad idea no matter what12:41
asacactually he never made a point what his issue with ubuntu is12:41
asache just dropped this in some segfault bug imo12:42
asacjust a troll12:42
asaci will ignore him in future ;)12:42
asacif he has concrete problems he should open a separate bug report12:42
gnomefreakagreed12:42
asacok ... out ... buying cigarettes :)12:43
=== asac basic shopping
gnomefreakme too12:44
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gnomefreakanyone here not a member of the mozillateam and wants to be? or has applied and either gotten an email or hasnt recieved any feedback yet?02:06
asachmmm ... is there a way to find the bug for a stracktrace I am looking at :) ? I somehow forgot which it was :)02:14
asachttp://librarian.launchpad.net/6348065/Stacktrace02:14
gnomefreakim looking02:15
asacits one for your latest submissions :)02:16
gnomefreakbug 1955202:16
UbugtuMalone bug 19552 in firefox "Crash after firefox is opening a new window (when it should open the new URL in the same window/tab) - No More Crash Report Please!" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955202:16
gnomefreakatleast that s the one ive been steady on most of morning02:17
asacok ... its Heres one02:18
asacthx02:18
asacthx for all the work ... I will take this bug and evaluate those traces02:22
asacor are you still working on more?02:22
asacok ill wait ... if you are done with processing, please set traced tag and reassign to mozilla team02:24
asaci will then grab it02:24
asac:)02:24
gnomefreakyeah but i think i have a problem with one of them.02:26
gnomefreakfrom what the error says while trying to retrace is its a 64bit arch02:26
asacyeah ... edgy?02:26
asaci can retrace then02:26
gnomefreakyeah02:26
asachowever I would need instructions ;)02:27
asacwhat apport version do I need02:27
asacdo I need to respin feisty one or can i directly install?02:27
gnomefreakhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/19552/comments/3702:27
UbugtuMalone bug 19552 in firefox "Crash after firefox is opening a new window (when it should open the new URL in the same window/tab) - No More Crash Report Please!" [High,Needs info] 02:27
gnomefreakasac: im using feistys 0.49 version of apport and python-apport02:27
asaccould you just install it?02:28
gnomefreakyes02:28
asace.g. dpkg -i pkgs.deb02:28
asac?02:28
asacok02:28
gnomefreakyep once you have the debs02:28
gnomefreaki think python-apport first iirc02:28
asachmm maybe they are in my chroot cache?02:29
asaclets see02:29
gnomefreakif not i can post them somewhere02:29
asac/srv/chroots/feisty1/var/cache/apt/archives/python-apport_0.48_all.deb02:29
asac/srv/chroots/feisty1/var/cache/apt/archives/apport_0.48_all.deb02:29
asacthose?02:29
asacwill try ;)02:29
gnomefreak0.4902:29
asachmm02:29
asacmaybe i should upgrade feisty chroot02:30
asacwill do02:30
asacfine ... new apports are pulled right away02:31
asachmm ... no luck02:34
asacwill try later ;)02:34
gnomefreakk ill be around sometime if you need me02:34
asac ... cu02:35
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asacyes ... load your batteries :)02:46
UbugtuNew bug: #83977 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes during a yousendit file download" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8397702:55
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gnomefreakasac: when you get a minute take a look at Ariel's retrace on bug 19552 (i think its beryl/xgl related)04:44
UbugtuMalone bug 19552 in firefox "Crash after firefox is opening a new window (when it should open the new URL in the same window/tab) - No More Crash Report Please!" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955204:44
asachard to say ... no stacktace available in there04:46
asacwhy do you think its beryl/glx?04:46
gnomefreakthats one reason why i think that04:46
gnomefreakasac: since beryl xgl are not in repos you wont have -dbg symbols. but really call it a strange feeling. maybe should ask him/her to see if they can reproduce it without xgl or beryl running?04:47
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gnomefreakhjmf: how did the retrace go?04:49
asachmm. maybe he should try to produce another crash report ... might have more infos then.04:50
hjmfgnomefreak, I've just come from work, no chance to have done it yet04:50
gnomefreakcrap again04:51
gnomefreakasac: i might have to redo that one04:51
asack04:51
gnomefreakand the other one :(04:51
gnomefreaki think im using old ff still04:51
asacgnomefreak: don't do too much ... to not get burned out :)04:52
gnomefreak:) im good for now04:52
gnomefreakhjmf: i have it done just incase you dont have time to run it04:53
gnomefreakasac: not sure jannes turned out ok with older version ff04:54
asacI will see :)04:54
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hjmfgnomefreak: I've just seen it at malone04:57
hjmfhow did you get rid of those dep issues04:58
hjmf?04:58
gnomefreakhjmf: what ones? i just used the right version of ff and ff-dbg04:58
hjmfI see, in the chroot env I supose05:01
gnomefreakasac: i think i found it (there doesnt seem to be a coredump :(05:01
gnomefreakhjmf: yes05:01
hjmfcool. I'll try later to see If I can get a good retrace05:02
hjmftoo05:02
hjmfnow I'm going to do some family life05:03
hjmfbye05:03
gnomefreakk05:03
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gnomefreaki see05:23
gnomefreakim done with that bug finally just waiting for the new reports if any come in05:24
gnomefreakim gone for now05:25
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asacgnomefreak: I will go and drink a beer tonight ... cu tomorrow ... will read log when I come home ... just in case :)06:07
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Admiral_ChicagoAdri2000: marking as fix commit now06:31
Admiral_Chicagothe update worked on my system06:34
Admiral_Chicagoworking on the tag library now on the wiki, a link will come by in a second06:45
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: you got the starter page for tags?06:50
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: asac started one already https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/BugTags06:50
Admiral_Chicagodid he? Oh okay then I will create a page that introduces our policy06:52
gnomefreakhe started a few pages just dont remember what ones i have that one cause its pretty much my to-do-list06:54
=== gnomefreak been doing the retraces
Admiral_Chicagoi noticed06:55
Admiral_Chicagomy inbox lets me know what you've been up to...06:55
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/BugProcedures06:56
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/BugStates06:56
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/BugTags06:56
asacProcedures is ment to be the general policy page06:57
asacmaybe we can talk tomorrow about what I have in mind in general ?06:58
gnomefreakill be here07:00
gnomefreak:)07:00
gnomefreaki didnt sleep well lastnight so im in and out07:00
Admiral_Chicagohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage07:02
Admiral_Chicagonow link to Bug Tags07:02
hjmfgnomefreak: I've uploaded the retraced Stack and ThreadStacktrace files from bug 83194 please compare to yours and tell me if those are OK07:03
UbugtuMalone bug 83194 in firefox "Firefox crashes when switching video mode at filecabi.net" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8319407:03
gnomefreakall i ask is that if you mark it as retrace set importance or if you cant ping me about it07:03
gnomefreakhjmf: ty07:04
gnomefreakhjmf: you didnt get an assertion error?07:04
hjmfno errors07:05
gnomefreaksomethings wrong07:05
gnomefreakyour stack trace is way too small07:05
gnomefreakhjmf: you have all dbg packages or are you using dbgsym?07:05
hjmfI've downloaded all the dbg packages I've found07:07
gnomefreakstacktrace looks like the coredump is missing. atleast one of mine looked like that when core dump was missing from report. but i know his is there if you give me about an hour i will look at mine07:07
hjmfI guess I need to invest more time on it.07:07
gnomefreakhjmf: i will post mine to that bug if its more informative off hand i dont remember what it looks like07:08
hjmfplease do it07:08
gnomefreaki will in next few hours i have 2 wgets and kernel upgrades going atm07:10
hjmfno hurry :)07:11
gnomefreakhjmf: thats a bad one. thats one bug that needs to be worked on i rember this one know07:12
gnomefreakhjmf: i sent a report on apport about this file/retrace07:12
gnomefreaki think its him07:12
gnomefreakmy stack is bigger but im missing symbols i need to find and install07:13
Admiral_Chicagoi see your comparing the size of you stacks...07:16
Admiral_Chicagoyou're *07:16
hjmflol07:16
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gnomefreaklol07:17
Admiral_Chicagoi'm supposed to do a 20 minute presentation on adverbs, last thing to do before COMAP, trying to hustle this out07:20
gnomefreakasac: sometime maybe tomorrow we need to come up with a list of -dbg or -dbgsym pacakges we are gonna need i have a list of them just from one bug. They are not in repos anywhere and that is one reason our stacktraces on a few bugs are garbage. but for now i need to rest07:48
gnomefreakasac: sorry to ping you again but here is the list i have for starters (not sure what the hell to do without these) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4745/07:51
UbugtuNew bug: #58753 in firefox (main) "display: fixed elements displayed improperly when scrolling up" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5875309:51
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asacgnomefreak: thanks a lot12:01
asacwe should definitly try to figure out why there are no such dbgsym packages.12:01
asacwill clarify12:01
asacwill past.ubuntu-nl.org keep that entry forever or just 24h or what? In case it is not kept forever we should put it somewhere more persistent12:02
asac... more tomorrow12:02
asacgood night12:02
UbugtuNew bug: #84096 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "cpu wasted during animations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8409612:10
Admiral_Chicagobug helper is out now...hmm12:18
gnomefreakasac: i will move it somewhere i know will be safe :)12:25
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: not for mozilla yet12:25
gnomefreakok i saved it to disk asac  ill throw it on USB just incase12:28
Admiral_Chicagono i just saw the email now12:28
gnomefreakah12:28
gnomefreaki emailed david about the clue files12:29

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