[12:03] <Belgain> will the server smb.conf be any use? it's also stock, except for adding the actual shares...
[12:05] <m_billybob> Belgain: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4643/
[12:05] <m_billybob> most of those are default on Samba 3.x
[12:06] <m_billybob> i set them manually anyhow
[12:06] <Adam314> Hello all.  hopefully someone can help me
[12:07] <Malachi> What's a good cron gui?
[12:07] <m_billybob> its been my experience, that most problems (speed wise) lie on the server end, then again, i use samba for Edgy -> WinXP so . . .
[12:07] <Malachi> Adam314 Just ask your question.
[12:07] <Adam314> I am running ubuntu 6.10.  I am very new to linux....
[12:07] <Lunar_Lamp> !cron
[12:07] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[12:07] <m_billybob> adjust the client side usually has led to worse performance, in my case
[12:08] <m_billybob> adjusting*
[12:08] <Adam314> When I plug in a usb drive, it automounts, but it doesn't use very good names
[12:08] <Lunar_Lamp> Adam314, what's your problem?
[12:08] <Adam314> Names are things like "/media/NO NAME" or "/media/usbdrive"
[12:09] <menace_> whenever i try to play a .wmv movie, i can hear audio, but no video, does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:09] <Adam314> Is there a way I can have it detect which usb drive it is and use a name like "/media/camera_olympus" and "/media/camera_sony" and "/media/thumb_drive"
[12:09] <Captain_Redbeard> Hey guys, I'm having some problems with amarok, it doesn't  build the collection database even though it's reporting that it is, I even left it sitting for 12 hours and nothing. it, however, doesn't report any errors. What could be wrong?
[12:09] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, yes, Adam314 there is. It's a bit complicated though.
[12:10] <mcphail> Adam314: you can google for a howto on udev
[12:10] <Adam314> I started reading some docs
[12:10] <Faugn> or change the label
[12:10] <Adam314> I did a man udev at the command prompt
[12:10] <Faugn> you can choose when formating the drive
[12:11] <menace_> !mp3
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:11] <unop> Adam314,  this should help http://www.debuntu.org/device-partition-labeling
[12:11] <Adam314> That didn't quite help.  Do you know of a page ?
[12:11] <cafuego_> Adam314: it normally uses the partition label; if you change that label it should change what name the drive is mounted under.
[12:11] <m_billybob> Belgain: anyhow, let me know how that goes
[12:11] <Adam314> thanks unop, i'll look there
[12:13] <Adam314> cafuego: not sure if I can change the partition label.
[12:13] <Belgain> will go, ta
[12:13] <unop> Adam314,  the page shows you how to do just that
[12:13] <hjmills> hey all - does my .bash_profile get executed when i login thru gdm?
[12:14] <unop> hjmills,  no, it's a bash specific startup file? why do you ask?
[12:14] <Adam314> I'm reading that page now... the first paragraph describes exactly what I want to do
[12:15] <hjmills> unop, well im wanting to get a script to execute no matter how I login - i tried putting some stuff in sessions in gnome (for mounting sshfs stuff) but it isnt working
[12:16] <unop> hjmills,  for X sessions, you can put commands in ~/.xinitrc .. that should work for you
[12:16] <hjmills> unop, so that is basically .bash_profile for x?
[12:17] <unop> hjmills,  pretty much, yes
[12:17] <hjmills> unop, Win! thanks
[12:17] <bruenig> win...
[12:18] <hjmills> unop, should bash stuff be in bash_profile or bashrc?
[12:18] <unop> hjmills,  i see you mentioned "no matter how I login" .. just need to let you know that .xinitrc does not apply to non-X sessions .. you'll need ~/.profile for that
[12:19] <hjmills> unop, im gonna create a login script and get .xinitrc and .bashrc to call it
[12:19] <unop> hjmills,  i believe you can use either for bash -- i prefer .bashrc for bash
[12:19] <mon^rch> weird that my ntfs 3g works, I guess Im supposed to install "fuse" but I didnt  (and it still works)
[12:19] <hjmills> unop, thanks
[12:19] <Belgain> m_billybob: i still have the same skipping problem with that samba config
[12:19] <Faugn> bashrc is for non login shell
[12:20] <m_billybob> Belgain: whats your wireless latency ?
[12:20] <Belgain> how can i tell?
[12:20] <m_billybob> ping one side from the other.
[12:20] <frogzoo> Belgain: ping -s 1472 host
[12:20] <Belgain> 3ms average
[12:20] <m_billybob> while you're at it, whats yout MTU ?
[12:20] <m_billybob> hmmm
[12:21] <Belgain> MTU is 1500
[12:21] <m_billybob> yeah, thats right
[12:21] <hjmills> Faugn, so will bashrc run whenever i open gnome-terminal (assuming my shell is bash)?
[12:21] <m_billybob> i dont know man, i suggested all i could think of
[12:21] <klimraamkosie> Question: I'm installing Ubuntu 6.10, when I get to "setup partitions automatically/use gparted" I use gparted, then the window opens, but just a little square. And it stays like that.
[12:21] <klimraamkosie> What do I do?
[12:21] <Belgain> i'm tempted to blame the player for not buffering a sensible amount for now...
[12:21] <Faugn> hjmills: yes
[12:21] <m_billybob> Belgain: you tried google yet ?
[12:21] <imme-emosol> Hey, how can I check if my com-port is receiving a signal (I've got no terminal-fobia) ?
[12:22] <Belgain> though it seems a little surprising
[12:22] <frogzoo> Belgain: which player?
[12:22] <Adam314> The page says I need to put a label on the drive.  For the camera's: will this mess anything else?
[12:22] <Belgain> banshee and rhythmbox
[12:22] <hovinen> So I just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy using apt and many of my icons are missing. E.g. Add/remove software, almost all games, about half the panel applets. Could anyone point me to the likely culprit? Thanks.
[12:22] <hjmills> Faugn, and does .bash_profile only get executed on login?
[12:22] <Adam314> From the udev page I was reading, I expected to have it look at the device name and serial number
[12:22] <bruenig> hovinen, that sounds like a standard upgrade to me
[12:23] <frogzoo> hovinen: I believe you need to reregister your schemes - there's a bug & fix in launchpad
[12:23] <hovinen> frogzoo, Thanks. URI?
[12:23] <klimraamkosie> Can anyone direct me to where i can get help with installing?
[12:23] <Faugn> hjmills: yes, man bash for more info
[12:23] <hjmills> Faugn, thanks
[12:23] <m_billybob> Belgain: that is wierd though, I stream DvDs over mine, although I get sub ms pings, and am GbE . . .
[12:24] <Faugn> hovinen: you didn't use update-manager?
[12:24] <Belgain> wifi really shouldn't be too slow for this though
[12:24] <Belgain> oh well, maybe it is
[12:24] <Belgain> i'll try a 100MBit LAN link
[12:24] <talz> i am having a cpu driver problem  would anyone be so kind as to help
[12:24] <m_billybob> No it shouldnt be
[12:24] <hovinen> Faugn, I tried. It failed.
[12:24] <Faugn> ah
[12:24] <m_billybob> 11b is capable of 11Mbit
[12:24] <m_billybob> that should be more than enough
[12:25] <m_billybob> amyhoo, ill bbiab, need to run
[12:25] <aSt3raL_> talz: explain
[12:25] <Belgain> theoretically yeah, in practice half of that, i.e. 5MBit.  which means the 400-450 kilobytes per second i'm seeing in a file transfer is in the right ballpark
[12:25] <imme-emosol> I've got a mouse on my com-port you see.
[12:26] <imme-emosol> And this is not automagically recognized
[12:26] <Belgain> i'll give the windows client a quick go to see if that works
[12:26] <talz> i dont have the right cpu driver loaded for my core 2 duo  on edgy
[12:26] <Adam314> Is it possible to have automount look at the device info (stuff you see from lsusb -v) to know where to mount a drive?
[12:27] <Adam314> Or could I have it call a custom script whenever I plug in a usb drive?
[12:27] <rpc> what was the method of enabling forwarding?
[12:27] <rpc> echo to /proc/sys/... ? i completely forgot
[12:27] <hovinen> frogzoo, I'm looking for the relevant bug on launchpad, but I'm not seeing it. Do you have a bug number or some keywords for which to search?
[12:28] <Faugn> rpc: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[12:28] <Faugn> ?
[12:28] <mcphail> Adam314: afaik, all of these things are possible with udev. I have a tutorial in an old copy of linux format, but there should be a decent howto somewhere on t'interweb
[12:28] <rpc> oh yes, thank you so much again Faugn
[12:29] <klimraamkosie> Question: I'm installing Ubuntu 6.10, when I get to "setup partitions automatically/use gparted" I use gparted, then the window opens, but just a little square. And it stays like that.
[12:29] <Adam314> I started doing a search.  I found some documentation for udev, hald, and gnome-volume-manager - none of these looked geared towards a beginner though
[12:30] <Faugn> :P
[12:30] <Adam314> I'll keep looking and reading, but was hoping someone knew of a tutorial style page
[12:30] <mcphail> Adam314: the LF article is quite simple. Don't know if it is available online. Issue #66, May2005
[12:30] <hjmills> Adam314, what are you trying to do?
[12:31] <hovinen> Does anyone know to which bug frogzoo was referring? Or how to "reregister schemes", as he put it?
[12:31] <jrib> Adam314: google for "writing udev rules"
[12:32] <hjmills> hovinen, i think i can remember how to reregister the gconf schemas if thats what you want
[12:32] <hovinen> hjmills, I don't know.
[12:33] <hovinen> Where is frogzoo???
[12:33] <moreati> hovinen: perhaps https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf2/+bug/50150
[12:33] <mcphail> Adam314: http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/pdfs/LXF66.tut_udev.pdf
[12:33] <caccolangrifata> why my mp3player iAudio m5 20gb is reconized at 15gb?
[12:34] <hjmills> hovinen, well to reregister the gconf schemas just cd to /usr/share/gconf/schemas and then run gconf-schemas --register * i think
[12:34] <hjmills> yeah
[12:34] <frogzoo> hovinen: can't find what I'm looking for in launchpad
[12:34] <hovinen> moreati, hjmills, Thanks. I'll try that.
[12:34] <hjmills> that worked for my mouse problems
[12:34] <hjmills> yeah
[12:35] <hjmills> thats the bug - my mouse went screwy too and that fixed it
[12:35] <Adam314> Want to have usb drives auto mounted, but using better mount names.
[12:35] <frogzoo> moreati: that's the one, thx - hovinen, that's what you need to reregister your schemes
[12:36] <Adam314> I'm reading some more pages now...
[12:36] <hovinen> hjmills, frogzoo, moreati, It appears to have had no effect.
[12:36] <frogzoo> hovinen: log out/back in
[12:36] <hovinen> Do I need to log out and back in for it to take effect?
[12:36] <hovinen> Okay
[12:36] <hjmills> hovinen, hmm - try deregistering first to clear out the bad ones by using --deregister * first then --register * (in that gconf dir)
[12:37] <hovinen> No effect
[12:37] <hovinen> The icons are still missing
[12:37] <hjmills> hovinen, then logout and login again
[12:37] <hovinen> I just did
[12:37] <Saris> Hi :)
[12:38] <jrib> hovinen: are you sure you are fully upgraded?  Can you access the apps from the terminal?
[12:38] <moreati> (11:38:09 PM) hjmills: hovinen, hmm - try deregistering first to clear out the bad ones by using --deregister * first then --register * (in that gconf dir)
[12:39] <hovinen> jrib, I'm fully upgraded, yes. I can't find any obvious packages that I'm missing (certainly ubuntu-desktop is there, with all its dependencies). I have no trouble accessing the apps. It's just the icons that are missing.
[12:39] <squarepusher> Why don't cmus play mp4/aac?
[12:40] <Adam314> I'm reading now.... I'll be back here if I can't get it to work
[12:40] <rpc> does anyone know the name of an option in kernel conf that will enable proxy arp?
[12:40] <hjmills> hovinen, try what moreati said i said and deregister first
[12:40] <Adam314> thanks for the help!
[12:40] <hovinen> hjmills, moreati, I get the following message on gconf-schemes --unregister:
[12:40] <hovinen> Document `/usr/share/gconf/schemas/panel-default-setup.entries' has the wrong type of root node (<gconfentryfile>, should be <gconfschemafile>)
[12:41] <moreati> squarepusher: I don't know what a cmu is. Ubuntu doesn't play AAC out the box because it is a restricted format
[12:41] <hjmills> hovinen, oh ok - change the * wildcard to *.schemas - thats my fault as its trying to deregister something that isnt a schema
[12:41] <squarepusher> moreati: it's cmus http://onion.dynserv.net/~timo/cmus.html
[12:41] <squarepusher> There is an aac plugin
[12:41] <hovinen> hjmills, Okay. Done.
[12:42] <hovinen> I will now log out and back in.
[12:42] <LiENUS> anyone know why networkmanager wont work with certain access points? it gets stuck on step 2 of 5
[12:42] <hjmills> how do i list everything that isnt a schema in a dir?
[12:42] <moreati> squarepusher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:43] <hovinen> Still no effect
[12:43] <hjmills> hovinen, and you reregistered as well i assume
[12:43] <hjmills> hmm
[12:43] <hovinen> Could there be a package missing? Something on which ubuntu-desktop does not depend but should?
[12:43] <hjmills> what is the exact problem?
[12:43] <hovinen> hjmills, Yes
[12:43] <jrib> hovinen: have you tried a fresh new user?
[12:43] <hovinen> jrib, Good idea. Lemme try.
[12:43] <squarepusher> moreati: For the sake of argument, let's assume I'm looking for a vorbis plugin for cmus. How do I install that?
[12:44] <squarepusher> moreati: I don't need a DRM education. I need to know how to install plugins in cmus
[12:44] <beoba> you betcha you betcha you betcha you betcha
[12:44] <hjmills> squarepusher, what is cmus?
[12:44] <LiENUS> is there a way to disable ipv6 entirely in ubuntu?
[12:45] <jrib> !ipv6 | LiENUS
[12:45] <ubotu> LiENUS: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:45] <talz> i got a cpu freq scalling /cpu driver problem  can anyone help
[12:45] <beoba> is there a straightforward way to get the new version of xfce running in 6.10?
[12:45] <squarepusher> hjmills: It's a command line music player... see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:45] <hovinen> jrib, The icons are missing for the new user as well. It's definitely not something in my account.
[12:45] <squarepusher> oops.. wrong buffer see: http://onion.dynserv.net/~timo/cmus.html2H
[12:45] <jrib> squarepusher: do you have a link to sample .mp4 or .aac?  I use cmus but don't have any of those files
[12:46] <moreati> squarepusher: apologies, I assumed you needed to install faad, which that page instructs howto. I have no idea how cmu does plugins. I'll shutup now
[12:46] <squarepusher> jrib: http://www.nch.com.au/acm/sample.PCM.16bit.8000Hz.Mono.aac
[12:46] <squarepusher> moreati: I have emerged faad2 on gentoo... but it still doesn't work.
[12:46] <`MeTaMorfas`> why my xchat break when i send dc ?
[12:47] <hjmills> squarepusher, install all the dependencies and see where that gets you
[12:47] <squarepusher> hjmills: there are no dependencies aside from GCC.
[12:47] <hjmills> night all
[12:47] <hovinen> I've also tried changing the icon theme. It has no effect.
[12:47] <fluvvell> can anyone suggest a way of getting a list of all the applications I have so as to install them all on another machine?
[12:47] <hjmills> squarepusher, check that site again - it lists a load
[12:48] <hovinen> Any other ideas?
[12:48] <squarepusher> ok, but if I'm using irssi ands screen here I definitely have ncurses
[12:48] <squarepusher> obviously I have alsa.
[12:48] <squarepusher> I can play mp3, wav, flac, etc
[12:48] <hjmills> fluvvell, check out dpkg --set-selections
[12:48] <jrib> fluvvell: man dpkg   see examples with --get-selections and --set-selections
[12:48] <talz> im having a cpu driver problem on my core 2 can anyone help D;
[12:49] <squarepusher> jrib: Can you tell me the contents of your /usr/lib/cmus/ip/ ?
[12:49] <jrib> flac.so
[12:49] <jrib> mad.so
[12:49] <jrib> modplug.so
[12:49] <jrib> mpc.so
[12:49] <jrib> vorbis.so
[12:49] <hjmills> fluvvel - to view installed pkgs by size: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' | sort -nr | less
[12:49] <fluvvell> hjmills; jrib; thanks
[12:49] <jrib> wav.so
[12:49] <jrib> eek
[12:49] <hovinen> Can anyone tell me where the .desktop file for "Add/Remove programs" is?
[12:49] <ardchoille> jrib: ?
[12:49] <hjmills> !paste
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:50] <jrib> ardchoille: bad exec -o :)
[12:50] <hjmills> sorry - i had to...
[12:50] <ardchoille> hovinen: /usr/share/applications ?
[12:50] <fluvvell> hjmills; by size? you mean by just looking for the bigger ones??
[12:50] <ardchoille> jrib: hehe
[12:50] <squarepusher> I have flac mad mpc wav... which makes sense cuz I don't have modplug or vorbis use flags enabled in gentoo, which means those don't get built. Does one of those two build AAC?
[12:50] <hjmills> fluvvell, that sorts them by size - its from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06 on the wiki
[12:50] <hovinen> ardchoille, Ah, I see it now. gnome-app-install.desktop
[12:50] <beoba> you betcha you betcha you betcha you betcha
[12:50] <hjmills> fluvvell, take out the sort bit to just get a list
[12:51] <squarepusher> It can't be vorbis... and I don't think it's modplug...
[12:51] <hovinen> Okay. Given an icon "gnome-app-install", how can I find out to what file it is supposed to be mapped?
[12:51] <elyon225> hmm... I'm trying to repartition my drives to install another Linux distro.  Problem is, when I run GParted (either from Kubuntu or the GParted LiveCD), it only displays one disk drive with NO partitions.
[12:51] <ardchoille> Is it possible to get the Add/Remove.. menu item out of the gnome menu?
[12:52] <elyon225> ardchoille: Sure is.  Just right-click on the "Applications" part and choose "Edit Menus"
[12:52] <moreati> ardchoille: use the menu editor
[12:52] <hjmills> fluvvell, that command still shows all the packages - it just means smaller ones are at the bottom - you could try something complicated prob to sort aphabetically then move all the lib* stuff to the end but its prob not worth the effort
[12:52] <moreati> ardchoille: or it's in control centre on Feisty
[12:52] <hjmills> night (again lol)
[12:53] <hovinen> Where are icon themes stored?
[12:53] <ardchoille> moreati elyon225 Where is it in the menu editor?
[12:53] <hovinen> NM. /usr/local/icons/*
[12:53] <cafuego_> hovinen: They cna be in ~/.themes (or ~/.icons) I think or installed globally under /usr/share somewhere
[12:53] <pimp^air> hi
[12:53] <jrib> Saris: I got 404 on your link, have any others?  google isn't helping me
[12:54] <fluvvell> hjmills, yeah thanks
[12:54] <pimp^air> i have the problem described here: https://launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/62751
[12:54] <pimp^air> i sucessfully downloaded and installed the latest cryptsetup from feisty... with no success at all
[12:54] <pimp^air> anyone else here having this problem or knowing where to start lookin?
[12:54] <ardchoille> pimp^air: Feisty?
[12:55] <pimp^air> yes...
[12:55] <ardchoille> pimp^air: Maybe  /join #ubuntu+1  ?
[12:55] <pimp^air> edgy+1
[12:55] <hovinen> So, I can't find any mention in any installed theme of an icon called 'gnome-app-install'. Can anyone tell me where that icon lives?
[12:55] <`MeTaMorfas`> i use xchat and i try "Send a file" xchat break(off) what is can be a problem ?
[12:55] <MonkeyMagic> hey I've recently installed ubuntu and windows xp to my computer. I put xp first then ubuntu. However now I can't get into xp. When I select xp from grub, i get a blue screen with the error "a problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer". Does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:56] <hovinen> Is there a package in which it is supposed to reside?
[12:56] <LiENUS> is there a way to install ubuntu under truecrypt?
[12:57] <talz> got the wrong cpu driver installed on edgy  can anyone help D;
[12:57] <ardchoille> hovinen: The Add/Remove.. icon seems to change when I change the icon theme, so maybe that icon is somewhere in /usr/share/icons ?
[12:57] <hovinen> I see that the icon itself is in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps, so it is installed. But GNOME is not seeing it.
[12:57] <LiENUS> talisein,  what you mean?
[12:58] <Quintin> hovinen: rm -r .gnome2
[12:58] <`MeTaMorfas`> i use xchat and i try "Send a file" xchat break(off) what is can be a problem ?  can anyone help???
[12:58] <bzrk> talz how do you install a wrong cpu driver?
[12:58] <eternaljoy> how can I install a Thesaurus in Open Office please?
[12:58] <ardchoille> Quintin: Won't that reset a lot of app's settings?
[12:58] <hovinen> Quintin, That should have the same effect as creating a new user account. But I tried the latter and the problem persists.
[12:58] <talz> it installed a genreic one
[12:58] <Quintin> ardchoille: Most likely!
[12:58] <LiENUS> err talz  what you mean
[12:58] <bzrk> you mean like in the kernel?
[12:58] <Quintin> hovinen: Interesting.
[12:58] <LiENUS> talisein,  generic?
[12:58] <LiENUS> how so?
[12:59] <rainmakers99> can anyone help me getting a broadcom mini pci wifi card working in an hp 6000 system.   ubuntu by default sees the card in network settings but it is listed as eth1 instead of wlan
[12:59] <talz> when i go a cpufreq-info   it says i have no or a unknow cpu driver
[12:59] <Quintin> rainmakers99: what chipset?  what does iwconfig say ?
[12:59] <Quintin> talz: Do you know what that program is for?
[12:59] <bzrk> talz what cpu have you got?
[01:00] <talz> core 2 dup
[01:00] <Quintin> talz: Is this a laptop?
[01:00] <talz> and im newb  cut a little slack D;
[01:00] <talz> yup
[01:00] <elyon225> hmm... I'm trying to repartition my drives to install another Linux distro.  Problem is, when I run GParted (either from Kubuntu or the GParted LiveCD), it only displays one disk drive with NO partitions.
[01:00] <Quintin> talz: Interesting.  What does google say?
[01:00] <hovinen> So how does GNOME find its icons?
[01:00] <talz> google said some things on comp specs
[01:01] <talz> aperrantly google doesnt like core 2 duo and cpu
[01:01] <rainmakers99> quintin: eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[01:01] <rainmakers99>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[01:01] <talz> so it feeds u shit
[01:01] <Quintin> talz: but did you google for like, cpufreq core 2 duo or whathave you?  Try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:01] <LjL> !language
[01:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:01] <PriceChild> !ohmy | talz
[01:01] <ubotu> talz: please see above
[01:01] <PriceChild> wow.... LjL did you just see that?
[01:01] <bzrk> talz sounds like you need to insert the right module for your cpu
[01:01] <LiENUS> google feeds you poopie
[01:01] <LjL> PriceChild: i know :)
[01:01] <Quintin> talz: You'll make people cry if you say bad words.
[01:01] <smultron> anyone good with iPods? I my nano won't mount....
[01:01] <PriceChild> LjL, that is officially the coolest thing this week!!!
[01:01] <talz> oh oopps D;
[01:01] <LiENUS> talz, say poopie next time
[01:01] <talz> my bad
[01:02] <Quintin> elyon225: Is it the right drive?  What kind is it?
[01:02] <LjL> PriceChild: this week... yeah, i think it was added this week :P
[01:02] <elyon225> Quintin: Yeah, I only have one drive.
[01:02] <bzrk> talz try "modprobe speedstep-centrino" as root
[01:02] <talz> proc/cpu infos is next to empty
[01:02] <elyon225> Quintin: I used the partition manager for Linux
[01:02] <talz> ok
[01:02] <elyon225> oop
[01:02] <eternaljoy> how can I install a Thesaurus in Open Office please?
[01:02] <smultron> anyone good with iPods? I my nano won't mount.... but it's recognized with dmesg
[01:02] <Quintin> elyon225: WHAT KIND IS IT
[01:02] <elyon225> Quintin: I used the partition manager for PCLinuxOS to resize my Windows partition... that's when this started.
[01:02] <aSt3raL_> smultron: gtkpod
[01:03] <LjL> eternaljoy: apt-cache search openoffice.org-thesaurus
[01:03] <smultron> Ast3raL_: it's installed
[01:03] <LjL> eternaljoy: choose your language, and install the relevant one
[01:03] <eternaljoy> LjL: ty :)
[01:03] <aSt3raL_> smultron: i havent hand any problems
[01:03] <eternaljoy> LjL: ok cheers
[01:03] <talz> modprobe didnt spit anything out
[01:03] <aSt3raL_> whats your issue?
[01:03] <smultron> aSt3raL_: do you have a nano, though?
[01:03] <hovinen> Ugh. This is becoming a nightmare. I may have to just re-format and re-install everything.
[01:04] <bzrk> talz and what does cpufreq say now?
[01:04] <talz> 1.67
[01:04] <bzrk> so the error has gone?
[01:04] <aSt3raL_> smultron: what does nano have to do with it/
[01:04] <talz> oh
[01:04] <talz> u meant in terminal
[01:04] <talz> lol
[01:04] <talz> sec
[01:04] <smultron> aSt3raL_: it may not be supported
[01:04] <aSt3raL_> smultron: or are ou talking about ipod nano?
[01:04] <aSt3raL_> y
[01:04] <smultron> aSt3raL_: yes, ipod nano
[01:05] <talz> oh
[01:05] <talz> damn
[01:05] <talz> it said something
[01:05] <LjL> !enter
[01:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:05] <`MeTaMorfas`> i use xchat and i try "Send a file" xchat break(off) what is can be a problem ?  can anyone help???
[01:05] <adaran> is there any program for playing audio dvds on linux?
[01:05] <hovinen> Does *anyone* else have any ideas on how to fix this? I *really* do not want to have to reinstall everything!
[01:05] <talz> bzrk: said a bunch of stuff now
[01:05] <smultron> aSt3raL_: it doesn't mount, but when i run 'dmesg' in terminal, is appears there
[01:06] <bzrk> talz good then you can configure cpufreq now
[01:06] <yellow> hovinen, what's the problem ?
[01:06] <talz> sweet
[01:06] <bzrk> if it is not already configured
[01:06] <talz> that was amazingly easy.........
[01:06] <talz> feels stupid now*
[01:06] <bzrk> talz don't :)
[01:06] <bzrk> youll get the hang of it
[01:07] <talz> i belive now
[01:07] <hovinen> yellow, About half my icons are missing. GNOME can't find them. I just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy and there were no problems. ubuntu-desktop is correctly installed, with all dependencies. Re-registering schemas has no effect.
[01:07] <talz> i have everything on this laptop working
[01:07] <menace_> when i try to play  a .wmv movie, all i get is sound, no video...does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:07] <klimraamkosie> Hey, my gparted freezes when I try to install Ubuntu 6.10.
[01:07] <talz> thxs bunchs
[01:07] <cables> menace_, what player are you using?
[01:07] <Quintin> !RestrictedFormats
[01:07] <bzrk> well congratulations :)
[01:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:07] <menace_> cables, let me check really quick
[01:07] <bzrk> talz np
[01:07] <kadjo> hi all
[01:07] <cables> !RestrictedFormats > menace_
[01:07] <menace_> cables: totem
[01:07] <rainmakers99> Quintin: sorry I don't know howto find the chipset for the broadcom card
[01:07] <yellow> hovinen, so everything's fine except for the icons ?
[01:07] <menace_> i've already done all that cables
[01:08] <cables> menace_, try using VLC
[01:08] <Quintin> rainmakers99: Google for your laptop info.  Look at dmesg
[01:08] <mzuverink> whats the correct way to get spamassasin  and evolution to work?  Is it just that you have enabled the little box next to spamasssassin, or do you need to create filters to pipe messages to spam....?
[01:08] <hovinen> yellow, Hardly. The icons are only the beginning of what's wrong. But that's the first problem I wanted to fix.
[01:08] <menace_> ok thanks cables
[01:08] <smultron> klimraamkosie: did you run any applications before the installer?
[01:08] <klimraamkosie> nope
[01:08] <Quintin> rainmakers99: And it looks like your connection is already up anyway.  are you using encryption on your wireless network?
[01:08] <klimraamkosie> smultron, straight to the installer.
[01:08] <kadjo> i want to confirm my openpgp key in email...in the launchpad it says you decript first and follow the link...what program will i use to decrypt?
[01:09] <smultron> klimraamkosie: hm, how many times have you tried (rebooting back to the disc)?
[01:09] <Solidad> hello, how to set proxy? (to hide my real ip)
[01:10] <klimraamkosie> smultron: quite a few times. And I'm on my third disc. Thing is, the installation did start when I tried it 2 days ago, but I had to reboot to do something while it was busy. But I've repartitioned with qtparted, there shouldn't be anything wrong with the partitions now?
[01:10] <hovinen> Well, looks like no one here knows how to fix this. I'll just have to re-format and re-install, and hope for the best.
[01:11] <klimraamkosie> smultron: just used fdisk to delete the partitions and did a fdisk /mbr to get windows to boot again.
[01:11] <menace_> cables: it works! thanks so much!
[01:11] <`MeTaMorfas`> i use xchat and i try "Send a file" xchat break(off) what is can be a problem ?  can anyone help???
[01:11] <smultron> klimraamkosie: yeah, it shouldn't have a problem reformatting over mistakes of last time... i had the same problem, but i just kept rebooting and eventually got it...
[01:11] <cables> menace_, no proble
[01:11] <cables> *m
[01:11] <klimraamkosie> smultron: ok so I should keep trying you say. Well, it gives me some hope that you got it to work :)
[01:12] <smultron> klimraamkosie: i don't suppose  you've tried Kubuntu or Xubuntu discs? maybe by chance it'll work ;)
[01:12] <Quintin> klimraamkosie: fdisk /mbr ? wtf? :P
[01:12] <klimraamkosie> I actually have the "alternate" disc here. But that's all.
[01:12] <klimraamkosie> haha
[01:12] <smultron> hm
[01:13] <klimraamkosie> Quintin: cleans mbr so that it boots from the first active drive.
[01:13] <Quintin> klimraamkosie: grub-installer /dev/hda .. :p
[01:13] <klimraamkosie> Quintin: yeah, i've been out of the linux game for a while. Just getting back in.
[01:14] <mzuverink> Evolution/spamassassin andyone?
[01:14] <`MeTaMorfas`> can anyone help??? i use xchat and i try "Send a file" xchat break(off) what is a problem ?
[01:15] <Jeruvy> is there any 64bit version of ubuntu, and if so what's it like, stable? complete?  feedback?
[01:15] <Viper550> Just wondering, is there any way to stop an Ubuntu 6.10 upgrade...when it's still downloading files?
[01:16] <nalioth> Jeruvy: powerpc and amd64 versions of ubuntu are available, and they are just as stable as the x86 version
[01:16] <Quintin> Viper550: yea, kill it
[01:17] <Viper550> which process? upgrade-manager?
[01:17] <LiENUS> woah
[01:17] <LiENUS> ubuntu really should enable hyperz on radeon cards..
[01:17] <LiENUS> i picked up 1000fps in glxgears...
[01:17] <Zenith2007> Hi folks, im struggling to get my sound to work on Edgy, I have a creative SB pci-128, anyone help please?  It worked straight away on dapper but not on edgy
[01:18] <david_> I always get "cannot display this video mode" every time i start ubuntu, it then auto adjusts, and works fine, but i'd like to get rid of this message
[01:19] <igbee> hello how do i start thne gui
[01:19] <harveyd> trying to compile a program, and getting an compiler cannot create executables (during configure), gcc is present
[01:19] <Viper550> Then of course, change sources.list back to Dapper
[01:19] <harveyd> I have write permissions, and attempted sudo anyway as well
[01:19] <igbee> how can i starrt the gui
[01:19] <Fedge> igbee: startx
[01:19] <harveyd> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=28795
[01:19] <igbee> thank you
[01:19] <Zenith2007> viper, any particular entries in sources.list or all of them? and im quite a noobie to this so more help would be ace  thanks
[01:20] <rainmakers99> Quintin: the chipset for the wifi card i believe is bcm4306
[01:20] <harveyd> any idea what could be going wrong?
[01:21] <hbaigu> harveyd, install build-essential
[01:21] <yves_mg> how can i start automatically the bery manager while starting my computer?
[01:22] <Zenith2007> yves_mg: try here, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Autostart_for_Ubuntu  hopefully should help.
[01:22] <noneee> does anyone have problems with the feisty 2.6.20-6 kernel and ehci-hcd?
[01:23] <noneee> I can't use ehci-hcd and uhci-hcd goes really slow
[01:23] <Fedge> is there any reason why apt-get wouldn't find phpmyadmin??
[01:23] <cafuego_> well, uhci-hcd is USB 1.1, so that's to be expected.
[01:24] <noneee> uhci-hcd on 2.17... works faster
[01:24] <Zenith2007> fedge, i had same problem myself previously.  You can just download phpmyadmin manually from their site and extract it to your www folder
[01:24] <uboob> hello i have a problem sending emails using thunderbird and evolution
[01:24] <harveyd> thanks, figured it would be something simple like that but didnt see it on google straight off
[01:24] <Zenith2007> www.phpmyadmin.net
[01:24] <noneee> cafuego, no, it goes slower than it should
[01:24] <cafuego_> noneee: less than 900Kb/sec?
[01:24] <noneee> yes
[01:24] <cafuego_> Fedge: it's probably in universe or multiverse.
[01:24] <a-dev> hi
[01:25] <a-dev> i can't find my scsi drive
[01:25] <frogzoo> noneee: -> #ubuntu+1
[01:25] <Fedge> cafuego: how do i find it if it's in universe?
[01:25] <a-dev> how can i get ubuntu to detect it?
[01:25] <noneee> frogzoo, tanks!!
[01:25] <frogzoo> Fedge: apt-cache search
[01:25] <cafuego_> !info phpmyadmin
[01:25] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[01:25] <a-dev> anyone?
[01:25] <LiENUS> why arent things like hyperz enabled by default with ubuntu?
[01:25] <cafuego_> It's in universe.
[01:25] <a-dev> my SCSI device isn't being detected in Ubuntu
[01:25] <tshack> Hello everybody!
[01:25] <harveyd> im on a dual boot laptop, can ubuntu see my windows partition?
[01:26] <harveyd> it used to be /C/windows on suse
[01:26] <Fedge> cafuego: how do i download it with apt?
[01:26] <frogzoo> !ntfs | harveyd
[01:26] <a-dev> harveyd: look in /media/
[01:26] <ubotu> harveyd: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:26] <lysdexia> Hi folks. I'm having a bit of difficulty with Adept. The package I'm installing has a curses-based confirmation screen that has frozen the install process. (installation of mysql4 server - the freezing package is postfix if it matters). Is there a graceful way to stop the install without confusing Adept?
[01:26] <cafuego_> Fedge: Enable universe, then use apt-get install
[01:26] <harveyd> cheers
[01:26] <Falstius> does anyone know how to change the vmware network configuration in edgy?  I need to disable the bridge network device (vmnet0)
[01:27] <frogzoo> a-dev: define 'scsi device'
[01:27] <Jawmht> If you install a linux modemdriver for a winmodem, will it be slower?
[01:27] <frogzoo> Jawmht: no
[01:28] <Jawmht> Thanks
[01:28] <Secion8> Has anyone succesfully ran a windows im such as myspace IM on wine? Trying to switch the fam over to linux her ein the household/
[01:28] <tshack> Hello, has anybody found a wrapper solution to get 32-bit applications to install seamlessly on a 64-bit architecture?
[01:28] <LiENUS> Secion8,  try it...
[01:28] <kling0n> I  need to run fsck on my disks .. (i have some strange io errors after a hardboot)
[01:28] <cafuego_> tshack: dchroot? ;-)
[01:28] <igbee> does anybody have a recommendation for a program that will lock down my system as secure as possible
[01:28] <Fedge> cafuego_: i uncommented universe and whatnot, but apt-get still can't find it
[01:28] <tshack> hmmm
[01:29] <Secion8> I plan on it, just trying to get some info on any caveats before hand
[01:29] <tshack> precomipled binaries
[01:29] <frogzoo> kling0n: boot a live cd works best
[01:29] <kling0n> im not too sure about fscking in linux though... (i use bsd on my server)
[01:29] <cafuego_> Fedge: Run 'sudo apt-get update' first to fetch new package lists.
[01:29] <cafuego_> igbee: SELinux
[01:29] <talz> how would u make a modeprob stick to your system through a restart
[01:29] <igbee> thaks
[01:29] <kling0n> frogzoo: that is what I was wondering... could i  just swith to runlevel 1 nad fsck from there?
[01:29] <Fedge> cafuego_: duh, thanks for the help
[01:29] <kling0n> nad=and
[01:29] <cafuego_> :-)
[01:29] <Falstius> talz: add it to /etc/modules
[01:29] <yves_mg> thank you :)
[01:29] <talz> thx
[01:30] <Vineman> Can someone help me with make? It's saying "command not found"
[01:30] <frogzoo> killermach: fscking / while running off it gives me bad vibes
[01:30] <kling0n> I dont like the thought that I need to run  a live cd to fix it
[01:30] <kling0n> maybe if i go to runlevel 1 and remount / as ro ?
[01:30] <iratik> Anyone know what this means ? Does anyone know what this means ? http://pastie.caboo.se/38707
[01:30] <frogzoo> Vineman: install build-essential
[01:30] <kling0n> any suggestions?
[01:30] <Vineman> What's the command for that?
[01:30] <LiENUS> kling0n, use a rescue cd
[01:31] <Falstius> kling0n: you need to fsck /?  You can run the check on a ro partition, but maybe not fix anything.
[01:31] <yellow> Vineman, sudo apt-get build-essential
[01:31] <frogzoo> Vineman: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:31] <cafuego_> kling0n: going to single suer mode and having / as read-only will be fine for fsck.
[01:32] <phire> My palm seams to crash the usb subsystem sometimes. I can fix it by restarting, but thats anoning. How can I restart usb?
[01:32] <kling0n> the point is, I have got the whole thing mounted on /
[01:32] <kling0n> including the disk i want to check
[01:32] <cables> Does anyone know if madwifi-ng will be in Feisty?
[01:32] <kling0n> (i know... bad decision
[01:32] <Falstius> kling0n: you have some sort of raid/lvm?
[01:32] <kling0n> Falstius: no
[01:32] <LiENUS> whats the diff between gksudo and gksu?
[01:33] <frogzoo> LiENUS: same difference as sudo & su
[01:33] <erUSUL> LiENUS: the same as the diff between su and sudo
[01:33] <jrib> LiENUS: gksudo is a symlink to gksu, no difference
[01:33] <kling0n> ill give it a try in single user mode and see how it goes
[01:33] <kling0n> thanks
[01:33] <LiENUS> 2 diff answers heh
[01:33] <LjL> in fact one can use gksu even if there is no root password
[01:33] <Falstius> kling0n: what do you mean "including the disk I want to check" then?  That implies there are multiple disks mounted as root.
[01:33] <igbee> for SELinux do i have to install it through ubuntu
[01:34] <jrib> LiENUS: ls -l /usr/bin/gksudo
[01:34] <LiENUS> jrib, that doesnt mean anything...
[01:34] <frogzoo> jrib: so it is, how weird
[01:34] <jrib> ok...
[01:34] <uboob> is there a chat site for thunderbird or emails
[01:34] <jackson3246> I have a major problem. dpkg/apt won't let me uninstall some packages because they were installed improperly or with errors. is there any easy way to fix this? I can't even update or upgrade
[01:34] <LiENUS> jrib,  you can have two applications in one binary
[01:34] <LiENUS> the application can look at argv[0]  and use that to differentiate how it was called
[01:34] <LiENUS> similar to busybox...
[01:35] <cables> jackson3246, does it tell you to do "sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a"?
[01:35] <LiENUS> actually thats how busybox does it...
[01:35] <cables> !enter | LiENUS
[01:35] <ubotu> LiENUS: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:35] <jackson3246> cables: no. it says I have to manually fix it
[01:35] <LiENUS> cables,  im add, get use to it, i think of things after i hit enter
[01:35] <TheJF> Can anybody help me in getting a screen reader to work, or at least suggest an application that could do text-to-speech?
[01:36] <frogzoo> manpage for gksudo = manpage for gksu
[01:36] <jrib> LiENUS: I guess one would have to read the source to rule that out then
[01:36] <cables> TheJF, I believe there's a screenreader built into Edgy... if not Dapper...
[01:36] <cables> TheJF, go to System>Preferences>Assistive Technology and you can enable the screenreader
[01:36] <jackson3246> cables: the main one (that's not letting me use apt for anything) is the virtualBox .deb. I accidentally had my /usr/src/linux symlink messed up and it couldn't compile its module and now I can't uninstall it and reinstalling it doesn't work even after fixing the symlink problem
[01:37] <TheJF> cables: I've enabled it, but it's not really doing anything...  And if I try to test voices, I hear nothing.
[01:37] <cables> jackson3246, I can't help you... sorry.
[01:37] <talz> if the modprob is modprob speedstep-centrino   would i add all of that to the ect/modules
[01:37] <jackson3246> cables: ah.. it's all right
[01:37] <cables> TheJF, I'm testing it... it's saying stuff, but nothing that useful...
[01:37] <LiENUS> is there a reason hyperz isnt enabled by default on radeon cards?
[01:37] <TheJF> cables: In fact, the name of the voices don't quite make sense, accelerator, cell, childcount, etc.
[01:37] <phire> My palm seams to crash the usb subsystem sometimes, I get a lot of messages in dmesg like:  [17192868.020000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8   [17192871.168000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110    [17192887.688000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.3: Controller not stopped yet!  How could I fix this without restarting?
[01:38] <hbaigu> talz, only add speedstep-centrino
[01:38] <rainmakers99> I messed up the sound files on my system does anyone know howto copy them back from the cd so i can go back to default? on dapper
[01:38] <talz> k
[01:38] <talz> thx
[01:39] <jrib> LiENUS: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gnome-maintainers/2006-August/026590.html so it seems you are right.  It doesn't seem to be fixed though...
[01:40] <LiENUS> so there is some difference...
[01:41] <LiENUS> alas doesnt really explain  the diff :/
[01:41] <jrib> LiENUS: it does
[01:41] <LiENUS> it says gksu is a front end to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo
[01:41] <musya> is there an easier way too see you wrote to you while you were away?
[01:41] <superjew9020>  ive followed this how-to http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Multimedia-Codecs-in-Linux-39555.shtml but cant get MPEG audio to work any ideas?
[01:41] <LiENUS> whats the effective diff
[01:41] <TheJF> cables: Hm, festival says it can't open /dev/dsp,, my problems probably stem from there.  I'll try to fix that.
[01:41] <jrib> LiENUS: gksudo Use sudo instead of su as backend authentication system
[01:42] <LiENUS> so why does gksu work with my user pass
[01:42] <LiENUS> i never set a password for root...
[01:42] <LiENUS> in fact i believe ubuntu disables root...
[01:42] <cables> LiENUS, sudo and gksudo run one command. Su  opens a root terminal. NOt sure what gksu does.
[01:42] <heatman> is there a ghosting program in Kubuntu?
[01:42] <LiENUS> cableroy,  sudo can open a root terminal...
[01:42] <cables> LiENUS, I know... but that's ALL su can do.
[01:43] <LiENUS> so somehow gksu is different
[01:43] <rainmakers99> is there a way to reset my sound system on my laptop back to default?
[01:43] <LiENUS> but no one really knows how heh
[01:44] <talz> errr  how would i make cpufreq lower the freq  when on battery    its on batt right now  and i have laptop mode enabled  but its still at 1.6 its highest freq
[01:44] <igbee> has anybody here used SELinux before?
[01:44] <mcphail> LaserJock: dropping dash would save 82K :)
[01:46] <psweetma_> hi, sorry if this is a weird q but can anyone tell me what's used to create the app selector at 2:25 through this vid?  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kd42jIaHk
[01:46] <s34n> I just put ubuntu on an IBM thinkcenter and it sees the netxtreme bcm nic in the device manager, but it can't use it
[01:46] <Odd_Bloke> Can anyone point me to a good guide to installing FreeNX?
[01:47] <Quintin> Odd_Bloke: google.com
[01:47] <agentcy> lol
[01:48] <EDinNY> I am using Gimp on Ubuntu...does anyone know how to export an eps file so that photoshop will be able to read it?  The defaults don't seem to work
[01:48] <Odd_Bloke> Quintin: No, seriously, I didn't try Google before coming into the channel.
[01:48] <csg> hello can u heklp me installing an archive please? i am newbie
[01:49] <jrib> csg: what are you trying to install?
[01:49] <jrib> LiENUS: gksudo's source is pretty readable actually
[01:49] <igbee> SELinux????
[01:49] <LiENUS> im too lazy to read it heh
[01:49] <LiENUS> in class right now...
[01:49] <Quintin> Odd_Bloke: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=install+freenx+ubuntu
[01:49] <csg> i have a folder named amule-cvs
[01:50] <Quintin> csg: Please save yourself a lot of pain and use packages to install software
[01:50] <csg> can we talk in private
[01:50] <jrib> !info amule
[01:50] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[01:50] <talz> errr  how would i make cpufreq lower the freq  when on battery    its on batt right now  and i have laptop mode enabled  but its still at 1.6 its highest freq  and its just sitting there running nothing
[01:50] <jrib> csg: amule is in the repositories.  Why not use synaptic to install it?
[01:51] <igbee> Quintin: why do you have to be mean about its just a question
[01:51] <LiENUS> i have a xubuntu 6.06 system... whats the easiest way to install a winmodem driver for a lucent lt modem...
[01:51] <LiENUS> mind you this system has no network access at all
[01:51] <LiENUS> untill i get the modem working...
[01:51] <Quintin> csg: why?
[01:51] <iratik> I need to talk to someone in private - i need a guru in private regarding security issues - we're just short of actually calling enterprise support here
[01:51] <jrib> LiENUS: have you seen the dial up wiki page?
[01:51] <LiENUS> jrib, its a winmodem
[01:51] <LiENUS> i need to install a winmodem driver
[01:52] <jrib> !dialup | LiENUS
[01:52] <ubotu> LiENUS: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:52] <csg> because i put repositories and tell me an error thats why i don not use it
[01:52] <LiENUS> i/query iratik
[01:52] <iratik> ?
[01:52] <jrib> csg: what error?
[01:52] <Quintin> iratik: maybe you should hire someone.
[01:52] <iratik> i might
[01:53] <Quintin> iratik: I know some good people. ;)
[01:53] <jrib> iratik: just ask your quesiton here
[01:53] <LiENUS> Quintin, i think hes got a simple problem
[01:53] <iratik> its too -- bad
[01:53] <saftsack> i want to deactivate my framebuffer (noload of vga16fb and so on) but with the boot option vga=normal nothing happens
[01:53] <ddude> hey
[01:53] <saftsack> the modules are still loaded after boot
[01:54] <Quintin> saftsack: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:54] <ddude> what is this ? when i type cd // , i'm in // directory :S?!?
[01:54] <saftsack> Quintin, gilt das auch fr den konsolen framebuffer?
[01:54] <csg> well i tried from control panel and i did it but if i go aplications add remove close and tell and error but i don noy know what error
[01:54] <saftsack> eher nicht, oder?
[01:55] <jrib> csg: open a terminal and try this command:  sudo apt-get install amule
[01:55] <ddude> can anybody explain?
[01:55] <ddude> hello?
[01:55] <jrib> ddude: you're in /
[01:56] <csg> ok and if i install fromm synaptec i have error cause i dont haver a server list
[01:56] <csg> how can i get it
[01:56] <hbaigu> ddude, it looks a bug
[01:56] <Quintin> saftsack: ich weiss nicht.  and speak frikkin' english
[01:56] <ddude> jrib: but why does it show ://$
[01:56] <jrib> ddude: what does pwd say?
[01:56] <ddude> jrib: //
[01:57] <quaal> could anyone assist with mounting a raid-0 partition ?
[01:57] <saftsack> Quintin, oh sry. it wants to create a new xorg.conf file. but i just want to know the option, that it doesnt take a framebuffer
[01:57] <hbaigu> jrib, type cd // in a terminal, it happpens to me also
[01:57] <jrib> hbaigu, ddude: bash seems to do that, zsh just sets it to /
[01:57] <ddude> so, i'm a bit confused here, because i did not know there was a // directory
[01:57] <Quintin> saftsack: I'm not sure.  that's why I would do dpkg-reconfigure
[01:57] <jrib> it is really / though :)
[01:57] <hbaigu> ddude, it is probably a bug
[01:58] <jrib> csg: what server list?  provide more info
[01:58] <ddude> jrib,hbaigu: thanks, it's a shell thiny
[01:58] <Quintin> csg: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[01:58] <Telmo> hello all, can anyone tell me how to put an smp kernel into ubuntu 6.10 ?
[01:58] <csg> when i try to connect in amule
[01:58] <saftsack> Quintin, yes but this writes a completely new config file and i made some modifications
[01:58] <csg> told me i have to download servers list
[01:59] <Erealz> hello everyone
[01:59] <Erealz> I have a question
[02:00] <doofy2> what is the default printing program in edgy?
[02:00] <saftsack> fb=false
[02:00] <saftsack> this is for the bootloader :)
[02:00] <minimec> doofy2: the cups-server (daemon)
[02:00] <Erealz> im looking for an itunes alternative for linux something that will dl all my radio and video podcast?
[02:01] <jrib> csg: http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Keep_a_safe_list_of_servers
[02:01] <doofy2> minimec, how would i run it from another program?
[02:01] <ddude> Ereals: rhytembox?
[02:01] <Erealz> im looking for the top program
[02:02] <ddude> !info rhytembox | Erealz
[02:02] <ubotu> erealz: Package rhytembox does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[02:02] <Quintin> Erealz: How about "itunes alternative linux" on google.com ?
[02:02] <minimec> doofy2: what window manager do you use?
[02:02] <doofy2> gnome
[02:02] <Erealz> !info rhytembox | Erealz
[02:02] <LiENUS> ouch my chest hurts
[02:02] <AzMoo> Is there a short-cut key to move a window?
[02:03] <Erealz> im sorry everything is scrolling by so fast
[02:03] <Erealz> what program should I get
[02:03] <greg_> open or run exe files
[02:03] <ddude> AzMoo: alt- drag
[02:03] <greg_> how do i open exe files
[02:03] <Telmo> Erealz: I've heard of a new app that's comming, it seems pretty cool, but not sure it works well on ubuntu, it's called songbird http://www.songbirdnest.com/
[02:03] <jdimond> jigglin
[02:03] <minimec> doofy2: ok! You should have a Printer option in your ubuntu menu. If you don't have that, you may want to install the cups server with synaptic.
[02:03] <ddude> Erealz: rhytembox looks like itunes, check it
[02:04] <phire> greg_, use wine
[02:04] <michaeljsmalley> songbird got pwned today cuz aol bought the site in it
[02:04] <doofy2>    minimec i do, im just trying to get eclipse to print an i need a path to the printing daemon
[02:04] <jdimond> aol in da hizzy
[02:04] <AzMoo> ddude, cheers. I was trying ctrl+drag ctrl+alt drag, etc. Plain alt. Should've known :p
[02:04] <greg_> i have that installed but it doesnt seem to open
[02:04] <ddude> AzMoo: :)
[02:04] <minimec> doofy2: Hmm.... lpr maybe...
[02:05] <phire> greg_ in a termial,  type wine app.exe
[02:05] <HighLife> Hey everyone I'm having a problem with the workspace indicator in the system bar, when I switch to beryl it won't switch workspaces (it stays on the same workspace but changes the windows on the indicator)
[02:06] <HighLife> It's tough to explain
[02:06] <AzMoo> csg, still there?
[02:06] <FarrisG> So is there any answer these days to slow-ass vino/x11vnc updating?
[02:06] <AzMoo> csg, just click the button on the left of the location bar.
[02:06] <phire> greg_, Check the app compablity database at winehq.com
[02:06] <HighLife> basically the workspace switcher is not working correctly in beryl
[02:07] <FarrisG> I have a media box in my living room. I want to be able to use the desktop remotely, but both vino and x11vnc are painfully slow. And if I just start a native vncserver, I can't really manipulate what shows up on my media display
[02:07] <ddude> HighLife: u mean the 'titlebar's' ?
[02:07] <computer> computer@Xerses:~$ sudo kismet
[02:07] <greg_> let me try hold on
[02:07] <computer> Server options:  none
[02:07] <computer> Client options:  none
[02:07] <computer> Starting server...
[02:07] <computer> Waiting for server to start before starting UI...
[02:07] <computer> Suid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.
[02:07] <computer> No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.
[02:07] <computer> Enabling channel hopping.
[02:07] <computer> Enabling channel splitting.
[02:07] <computer> Source 0 (AtherosG): Enabling monitor mode for madwifi_ag source interface wifi0 channel 6...
[02:07] <computer> FATAL: channel get ioctl failed 22:Invalid argument
[02:07] <computer> little help
[02:07] <computer> this is not a site for bullshitting its a site for helping me goddamnit
[02:07] <jrib> !paste | computer
[02:07] <hbaigu> FarrisG, if both have X, use its power directly
[02:07] <ubotu> computer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:08] <HighLife> mmm dont think so when you goto add it to your panel
[02:08] <HighLife> its called a workspace switcher
[02:08] <FarrisG> hbaigu: I'm not sure I understand
[02:08] <bayziders> How do I add more music to my amarok library?
[02:08] <doofy2> minimec, /usr/bin/lpr ?
[02:08] <mattcsm> iam having trouble installing wine
[02:09] <greg_> okay im in the site now what am i looking for???
[02:09] <Telmo> anyone knows if/how I can install a SMP kernel in Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[02:09] <csg> i did it but nothing and i download server.met
[02:09] <AzMoo> csg, strange. Does it come up with an error? Works fine for me.
[02:10] <ddude> HighLife: what version of beryl do u use?
[02:10] <EdLin> Telmo: you don't need one, "-generic" includes both SMP and uniprocessor support.
[02:11] <csg> AzMoo i send u a print screen about my amule ok?
[02:11] <Telmo> thanks EdLin
[02:11] <AzMoo> csg, no
[02:11] <minimec> doofy2: gooleing about eclipse... What do you want to do exactly?
[02:11] <hbaigu> FarrisG, if both use the X server, see XDMCP protocol
[02:11] <bayziders> Does any one know?
[02:11] <doofy2> minimec, just print out my code
[02:12] <doofy2> minimec, dont worry about it though, i can copy and past to oo and it keeps all the formatting
[02:12] <frogzoo> mattcsm: use the budgetdedicated.com repos
[02:13] <csg> ok look what ir say failed to loadserver.met file '/home/csg/.aMule/server.met.download'unknown format encountered
[02:13] <plagerism> Is there any alternative to openmosix and beowulf that has been adopted by the debian/ubuntu  community?
[02:13] <ddude> anyone?? i have ubuntu edgy (6.10) and when i start firefox, it generate a defunct process
[02:13] <HighLife> I am using the newest version
[02:13] <david_> why did my shutdown and restart buttons just disappear?
[02:13] <minimec> doofy2: Try just 'lpr'
[02:14] <ddude> david_ is a beryl proberly, i a know bug
[02:14] <slickguy> hehe.. xgl+beryl+counter-strike 1.6 :) http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotls8.png
[02:14] <hbaigu> FarrisG, with X, you can run a application, in a remote compuler, by doing DISPLAY=host:display_number program
[02:14] <heatman> is there a ghosting program in Kubuntu?
[02:14] <goose> hi i'm getting this weird error whenever i start a gtk app -> Fontconfig error: Cannot load config file " conf.d/no-bitmaps.conf" <- the file exists but notice the space before conf.d
[02:14] <HighLife> It stopped working correctly when I changed the amount of workspaces on the workspace switcher
[02:14] <ddude> grrr, my firefox generates a zombie process, this can't be right?
[02:14] <goose> is there a way to figure out which library / config file is generating it?
[02:14] <Telmo> cya all!
[02:15] <HP_Vue> Why is compiz so laggy?
[02:15] <HP_Vue> And how do I get rain?
[02:15] <Simpleton> Dance
[02:15] <AzMoo> HP_Vue, running Xgl?
[02:15] <esaym> can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong with rsync? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4666/
[02:15] <HP_Vue> yea
[02:15] <mattcsm> can anyone help me install wine. I'am getting issues in the terminal
[02:15] <HP_Vue> XGL
[02:15] <frogzoo> heatman: you're best off with cpio, or dd at a pinch
[02:16] <slickguy> mattcsm, what is wrong?
[02:16] <frogzoo> mattcsm: use the budgetdedicated.com repos
[02:16] <HighLife> Did you get the way I described the problem?
[02:16] <heatman> frogzoo: ty
[02:16] <dreamerdude> Hey, does anyone know why i cant add a new Server on Xchat? like irc.deepirc.org
[02:16] <ddude> HighLife: uhmm, i guess the gnome workspace switcher won't work when u have beryl. And prefix messegas with name: when u want to say something to somebody specific. It's better readable
[02:16] <minimec> doofy2: Found that one ... http://www.timhardy.net/wordpress/2006/03/30/eclipse-wont-print-under-linux/
[02:16] <LordUltimaDavid> !beryl
[02:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:16] <frogzoo> !backups | heatman
[02:16] <HP_Vue> Can someone help me with compiz?
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <frogzoo> !backup | heatman
[02:17] <plagerism> ddude: the workspace switched does work
[02:17] <ubotu> heatman: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:17] <HighLife> ddude: I know how to prefix :P
[02:17] <ddude> plagerism: i did not know that
[02:17] <frogzoo> HP_Vue: -> #ubuntu-xgl
[02:17] <BetaCookies> Hey
[02:17] <doofy2> minimec, but kwrite wont work will it?
[02:17] <BetaCookies> Does K3b or gnomebaker burn to DVD-Rs from an iso?
[02:17] <moloch> hi i need someone to help me setup my wifi network, i looked at some of the documentation on ubuntu but i am still confused. I got my wifi driver working but now what
[02:17] <ddude> but now i have attention again :) my firefox also generates a [netstat]  <defunct> process
[02:18] <minimec> doofy2: I am a 'gnome' ;)
[02:18] <HighLife> ddude how can I fix beryl's workspace switcher?
[02:18] <sear_yoda> hey, does anyone here use multi monitors in ubuntu?
[02:18] <sear_yoda> or with gnome in general
[02:18] <frogzoo> !anyone | sear_yoda
[02:18] <ubotu> sear_yoda: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:19] <saftsack> i hate ati drivers :( hard lockup after every kill of xorg. now i try the nvagp module
[02:19] <Igor_V2> hi...i asked before how can i upgrade my ubuntu version...and somebody gave me a link...with explication...anybody knows........again...sorry
[02:19] <ddude> HighLife: /join #beryl    ;) sry, i dont know
[02:19] <frogzoo> !upgrade | Igor_V2
[02:19] <ubotu> Igor_V2: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:19] <Igor_V2> thanks
[02:19] <slyfox> What does Ctrl+Alt+F10 does I pressed it by accident and it turned off my screen and I could not turn it back on. I haad to hard restart.
[02:19] <sear_yoda> okay...i'm trying to set which screen windows pop up on, since sometimes the 2nd monitor is turned off and I don't want random windows popping up where i can't see them
[02:20] <frogzoo> sear_yoda: devilspie maybe
[02:20] <moloch> no one able to help me setup my wifi network?
[02:21] <quaal> could someone help with mounting a raid-0 partition ?
[02:21] <MarcN> slyfox: Do a alt-f7 to get back to the X server -- you switched to one of th econsoles
[02:21] <sear_yoda> hm, looks promising frogzoo, thanks
[02:21] <ddude> wow, googled for [netstat]  <defunct> mozilla and first hits japanese
[02:21] <slyfox> MarcN: I think I pressed it and all I got was a mouse cursor that is it and mp3 I was playing
[02:22] <slyfox> MarcN: But still it was only mouse cursor and a black screen
[02:23] <slyfox> I'll try it again if it wil lever happen
[02:23] <holycow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo <-- i had no idea ... we get the same sort of virtualization niftyness as they have on osx
[02:23] <SDBolts21n56> vista is so cool
[02:23] <ddude> the wow is now....until the vista dudes see ubuntu + beryl...they get an hart attack
[02:23] <BetaCookies> ddude I like both :P and I just bought vista today
[02:23] <Secion8> Nope, Wine doe snot like MySpace IM
[02:23] <holycow> whats to like about vista?
[02:23] <ddude> BetaCookies: lol haha, what version(s)?
[02:24] <holycow> i think most people like the fancy theme and wallpaper
[02:24] <BetaCookies> ddude home premium.
[02:24] <holycow> and that gets you exactly didly right?
[02:24] <holycow> i thought you would of warezd the full version
[02:24] <BetaCookies> holycow well i did :P but only because i wanted to try it
[02:24] <BetaCookies> and i ended up buying it
[02:24] <ddude> BetaCookies: i completly moved to linux, every bloody system i have...even my ipod.
[02:25] <SDBolts21n56> vista up linux down
[02:25] <moloch> hi i need someone to help me setup my wifi network, i looked at some of the documentation on ubuntu but i am still confused. I got my wifi driver working but now what
[02:25] <Secion8> Alot of vista is under the skin.
[02:25] <BetaCookies> ddude iPL broke mine >.>
[02:25] <ddude> BetaCookies: but on work some peeps use vista
[02:25] <BetaCookies> well I need my adobe apps
[02:25] <holycow> ehe, i'm buggin ya ... if you like it its all cool
[02:25] <holycow> i'm happy your sticking around anyway
[02:25] <BetaCookies> i use kubuntu
[02:25] <ddude> BetaCookies: wine will do an exellent job, and u can reset ur ipod (u proberly tried.?)
[02:25] <heatman> !sbackup
[02:25] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[02:26] <BetaCookies> ddude i ended up installing rockbox
[02:26] <BetaCookies> ddude wine didn't work for photoshop cs3
[02:26] <heatman> !cloning
[02:26] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[02:26] <baegle> Sometimes, when I boot up, I don't have sounds. Sometimes I do. If I reboot, I'll have sound. Is there something I can try to see if I can get sound back without rebooting?
[02:26] <talz> my cpu if scalling on max even the its running on bat  and i have laptop mdode enabled    could i getz some help plz D
[02:26] <holycow> that link i posted is nifty ... we can now vm the entire windows os ... but hide the desktop and run apps standalone
[02:26] <holycow> i wonder how that would work with beryl
[02:26] <minimec> saftsack: I had the same problem. Does it happenwith the original ubuntu gdm theme too?
[02:26] <ddude> BetaCookies,  a will try rockbox, for now i used rhytembox
[02:27] <ddude> !info rockbox
[02:27] <ubotu> Package rockbox does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[02:27] <BetaCookies> ddude well I made my own theme for rockbox.. a nice blue background and white text, with a light blue wavey-type bar for how far in the song it is
[02:28] <ph0xins0x> i enabled the chooser on accident and now im stuck
[02:28] <ddude> BetaCookies: nice customize
[02:28] <SDBolts21n56> load vista unload linux
[02:28] <firepig> Okay im having all kinds of problems with my wireless card I have a pci WPN311 made by netgear installed on this machine and I am running edgy. The wifi appears to be connected as it shows my wouter when I "iwconfig" however I am not able to access the internet. I have installed ndsiwrapper and am using the proper windows drivers, however in the graphical windows drivers menu it says my hardware isn't plugged in. any ideas <sigh>
[02:28] <Adross> is anyone here familiar with twin view?
[02:28] <BetaCookies> except i didn't know how to release it, and i lost the theme XD
[02:29] <Igor_V2> hey guys..i got an error during update....
[02:29] <ph0xins0x> can someone tell me how to enable my HDD on the disk and change the config gile
[02:29] <ph0xins0x> from chooser
[02:29] <ddude> BetaCookies: i made some nice pictures with metapixel (nice photo mosic program)
[02:29] <ph0xins0x> to greeter
[02:29] <ddude> can make some nice graphics with that
[02:29] <ph0xins0x> file*
[02:29] <Igor_V2> error : Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory  ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 
[02:29] <ph0xins0x> i enabled the chooser on accident and now im stuck
[02:29] <ddude> !info metapixel
[02:29] <deafboy> Does anyone know if fiesty will support MS-DUO cards?
[02:29] <ubotu> metapixel: generator for photomosaics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 148 kB
[02:30] <ph0xins0x> i enabled the chooser on accident and now im stuck
[02:30] <ph0xins0x> can someone HELP me PLEASE
[02:30] <LiENUS> what is MS DUO?
[02:30] <ph0xins0x> i enabled the chooser on accident and now im stuck
[02:30] <ddude> oh and btw, what's with the airline food today?
[02:30] <LiENUS> ph0xins0x,  what chooseR?
[02:30] <slyfox> Help ! Ctrl+Alt+F1 gives me blakc screen only, nothing else no command promtp to log in.
[02:30] <Igor_V2> hey guys..i got an error during update....
[02:30] <Igor_V2> error : Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory  ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 
[02:31] <Igor_V2> anybody knows?
[02:31] <ddude> slyfox: hit ctrl-alt-f7
[02:31] <LiENUS> Igor_V2,  try again?
[02:31] <ddude> slyfox: wow, no prompt?
[02:32] <slyfox> ddude: nothing happens as I am talking to you via ctrl-alt-f7 an X session
[02:32] <talz> my cpu if scalling on max even the its running on bat  and i have laptop mdode enabled    could i getz some help plz D;   the laptop is literaly just sitting there....... itll drop to 1ghz for like 1 second then jump back to 1.6
[02:32] <slyfox> ddude: no
[02:32] <makuseru> can someone tell me why i wouldnt be able to connect suing kfrb to a knoppix machine
[02:32] <slyfox> ddude: I am very worried
[02:32] <LiENUS> whens the next LTS ubuntu coming out?
[02:32] <ph0xins0x> liENUS you know the GNOME greeter and chooser
[02:32] <LiENUS> and is updating straight from LTS to LTS supported? or do you have to go through each release in between?
[02:32] <LiENUS> ph0xins0x, howd that lock you out?
[02:32] <ddude> slyfox: yeah, that is disturbing, and when u boot into init 3?
[02:33] <lmosher> Is there a way I can syn a folder on my laptop and on a USB stick? I keep a "docs" folder on each and I tend to edit them separately, but want to sync them. How do I do this?
[02:33] <ph0xins0x> LiENUS: all it can do is connect to a sever
[02:33] <LiENUS> slyfox, did you edit /etc/inittab
[02:33] <LiENUS> ?
[02:33] <ddude> slyfox: do u have a tft or some kind?
[02:33] <ph0xins0x> i need to know the config file to edit
[02:33] <slyfox> ddude: what is "boot into init 3" ? I am only noob
[02:33] <default23> hi
[02:33] <slyfox> ddude: what is tft ?
[02:33] <scabootssca> hey how would i make a file type open with something other than default?
[02:33] <LiENUS> slyfox,  you run the command "init 3" and it kills x and brings up command line only linux
[02:33] <Igor_V2> hey guys..i got an error during update....
[02:33] <Igor_V2> error : Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory  ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 
[02:33] <slyfox> LiENUS: I dont think I did
[02:33] <ph0xins0x> scabootssca: try property tab
[02:33] <LiENUS> Igor_V2,  did you try again?
[02:34] <Igor_V2> yes...
[02:34] <LiENUS> id remove that line from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <scabootssca> ph0xins0x, thanks i though it might be easy.. i'm so dumb
[02:34] <slyfox> LiENUS: ok, I iwll run that command now, but if there will not be a command prompt, how do I get back? restart the hwole ocmputer ?
[02:34] <LiENUS> for that matter i dont see that line in my sources.list
[02:34] <LiENUS> slyfox,  i didnt tell you to try that command
[02:34] <jacked> can anyone help me troubleshoot my bluetooth setup on edgy?  I have installed basically everything related to b.t. on this edgy install (macbook) but I can't detect my phone.  (OSX detects it fine)  I don't know how to troubleshoot this problem...
[02:34] <LiENUS> i was just explaining what it is
[02:35] <ph0xins0x> LiENUS: can you help me
[02:35] <ph0xins0x> please
[02:35] <slyfox> LiENUS: sorry
[02:35] <LiENUS> ph0xins0x, im in class
[02:35] <ph0xins0x> i went to the log in window
[02:35] <ph0xins0x> and changed greeter to chooser
[02:35] <ph0xins0x> you dont know where that file is?
[02:35] <default23> Today I regonized that my /var/log/syslog and daemon.log have grown to some 200MB. They seemed to be rotated but I cannot find the config file where the max logfile size is defined, inf at all, that initiates logfile rotation. anyone?
[02:35] <LiENUS> prolly /etc/gdm.conf
[02:35] <LiENUS> i dont know
[02:35] <ddude> slyfox: well, do u have a flat screen? if so, click auto-adjust on your screen or something
[02:36] <LiENUS> ph0xins0x,
[02:36] <LiENUS> type startx 1
[02:36] <slyfox> ddude: I have a laptop
[02:36] <LiENUS> itl'l bring up x
[02:36] <amonratus> i cant install ATI redeon 9250 driver
[02:36] <MrSatanic> How can I get stats on a wireless connection?
[02:36] <LiENUS> change it back the same way you changed it in the first place
[02:36] <abelle> I'll think about it
[02:36] <LiENUS> MrSatanic,  iwconfig
[02:36] <lmosher> MrSatanic, type iwconfig
[02:36] <MrSatanic> Cool
[02:36] <LiENUS> MrSatanic,  if you want to scan for wireless devices iwlist <device> scan
[02:37] <LiENUS> err networks not devices
[02:37] <slyfox> ddude: ..:-( does this mean I have to reinstall the whole Linux desktop ?
[02:37] <ddude> slyfox: what does this display? ps -C getty
[02:37] <LiENUS> slyfox,
[02:37] <LiENUS> !pastebin
[02:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:37] <rpedro> !ops
[02:37] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, or Amaranth
[02:37] <JDski> nah just do apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:37] <LiENUS> paste the contents of your /etc/inittab to pastebin
[02:37] <MrSatanic> Is it gonna give me stats on eth1?
[02:37] <JDski> then reboot
[02:37] <Amaranth> rpedro: ?
[02:38] <jacked> can anyone help me troubleshoot my bluetooth setup on edgy?  I have installed basically everything related to b.t. on this edgy install (macbook) but I can't detect my phone.  (OSX detects it fine)  I don't know how to troubleshoot this problem...
[02:38] <rpedro> HelpDsk is sending out pvt messages to joiners
[02:38] <LiENUS> woah
[02:38] <MrSatanic> What could I do with someone elses wireless when connected?
[02:38] <LiENUS> MrSatanic,  use the internet
[02:38] <rpedro> Amaranth: this message >> Hello welcome to #ubuntu . Please enter our page and click to a link(sponsors) to support us > www.all-tr.com
[02:38] <LiENUS> generally
[02:38] <MrSatanic> ...
[02:38] <ph0xins0x> what is a good terminal text ediot
[02:38] <ph0xins0x> ediot
[02:38] <LiENUS> nano ph0xins0x
[02:38] <ph0xins0x> editor
[02:38] <ph0xins0x> non
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> nano
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> is it on ubuntu
[02:39] <LiENUS> i told you what to do
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> stock?
[02:39] <LiENUS> type startx 1
[02:39] <MrSatanic> I don't know where to start
[02:39] <Amaranth> rpedro: thanks
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> LiENUS: its that file you were talking about
[02:39] <rpedro> np
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> :P
[02:39] <lmosher> Is there a way I can syn a folder on my laptop and on a USB stick? I keep a "docs" folder on each and I tend to edit them separately, but want to sync them. How do I do this?
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> i know that to change
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> just not where that bugger was
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> or what it was called
[02:39] <LiENUS> ph0xins0x, what file?
[02:39] <ph0xins0x> GDM.conf
[02:39] <LiENUS> dude
[02:39] <cafuego_> Amaranth: populating the list of users
[02:39] <LiENUS> use startx 1
[02:39] <LiENUS> itl'l bring up x windows
[02:39] <cafuego_> Amaranth: on tiny channels it's much faster
[02:39] <Amaranth> cafuego_: that's why it locks up for 20 seconds?
[02:40] <jacked> ph0xins0x:  vim?
[02:40] <cafuego_> Amaranth: I think so, yes.
[02:40] <makuseru> can someone tell me why i wouldnt be able to connect suing kfrb to a knoppix machine
[02:40] <Amaranth> cafuego_: something that changed in 0.16 then
[02:40] <Amaranth> cafuego_: it's talking to dbus
[02:40] <LiENUS> lmosher, depends on the format of the docs
[02:41] <Amaranth> cafuego_: i'm thinking it's poking e-d-s to get additional info about the users
[02:41] <ddude> but, i have a firefox leak? a defunct process, or is this normal?? i guess not
[02:41] <LiENUS> lmosher, if the docs are just text files learn to use subversion
[02:41] <LiENUS> if they're anything else then give up
[02:41] <LiENUS> you could use something like rsync
[02:41] <LiENUS> but it wont merge changes to a single doc
[02:42] <ddude> what's up with episode 3x14 from stargate atlantis? what is the sequence?
[02:42] <slyfox> ddude: http://pastebin.ca/344852
[02:42] <slyfox> LiENUS: http://pastebin.ca/344852
[02:42] <slyfox> LiENUS: wai wrong one for you
[02:42] <LiENUS> slyfox, have you tried rebooting?
[02:42] <lmosher> LiENUS, haha no it's not strictly docs. I'm a grad student, it's all my research data, figures, papers... etc. I just sometimes hop on another computer and edit a file. I want to make sure the most recent file is updated
[02:42] <henrique> alguem do Brasil aqui?
[02:42] <ddude> slyfox: paste also the contenst of /etc/inittab
[02:43] <lmosher> So there's no way to make two folders sync where it copies over the most recent (or missing) versions to each folder?
[02:43] <YogSothoth> Hi
[02:43] <henrique> alquem do brasil?
[02:43] <LiENUS> lmosher,  you could try something like subversion...
[02:43] <slyfox> LiENUS: rebooting does not help
[02:43] <hbaigu> !br | henrique
[02:43] <ubotu> henrique: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:43] <LiENUS> but seriously
[02:43] <LiENUS> the best thing to do
[02:43] <LiENUS> is just edit them on a usb stick
[02:43] <LiENUS> get a usb stick
[02:43] <YogSothoth> I'm looking for a Wi-FI g card PCMCIA. What is the best solution, working out of the box with Edgy?
[02:43] <LiENUS> and just edit them on it
[02:44] <lmosher> LiENUS, Well yes, but I want a backup
[02:44] <slyfox> LiENUS: I only have init.d/          initramfs-tools/
[02:44] <slyfox> LiENUS: I do nto have inittab
[02:44] <LiENUS> im out
[02:44] <AzMoo> lmosher, that sounds like something lots of people would want.
[02:44] <AzMoo> lmosher, so I would expect you can do it somehow.
[02:44] <lmosher> AzMoo, hehe it sounds like something that really shoudl exist...
[02:44] <slyfox> ddude: I do not have inittab
[02:44] <frogzoo> slyfox: inittab is no more
[02:44] <slyfox> ?
[02:44] <lmosher> AzMoo, exactly. I googled and something about rsync came up, but I've never used it...
[02:45] <HP_Vue> Is superkaramba good?
[02:45] <lmosher> Anyone experienced w/ rsync, could it be used to sync two folders, copying over the most recent versions?
[02:45] <slyfox> ddude: any more ideas ?
[02:46] <ddude> slyfox: hmm, is your keymaps correct :S
[02:46] <AzMoo> lmosher, http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[02:46] <jebus> Anyone installed 64bit ati drivers for edgy?
[02:46] <ddude> slyfox: run program: xev
[02:46] <slyfox> ddude: Not sure waht that is. How do I check ?
[02:46] <slyfox> ddude: ok it is running
[02:46] <Solidad> hello how to set up socks / proxy as permanently alive?
[02:46] <ddude> slyfox: and check ur controls, if ctrl-alt-f1 is recognized correctly
[02:46] <slyfox> ddude: I see a square not in the center but in the top right corner
[02:48] <ddude> slyfox: u can type your keys, and check after keysym: if the correct keys are displayed
[02:48] <slyfox> ddude: http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/3145/xevfw0.jpg
[02:48] <lmosher> AzMoo, ty I'll check that out. I'm nervous when it says it handles conflicts. In my case I want it strictly overwrite w/ the most recent version (I'm the only one editing, so I wouldn't edit the same doc twice in a different location, and if I did I'd still want the most recent only)
[02:48] <slyfox> ddude: keysym command not found
[02:49] <ddude> slyfox: when u hit a key, it says what key it is
[02:49] <ddude> slyfox and im talking about the word keysym, which happens to appear in your screenshot
[02:49] <makuseru> can someone tell me why i wouldnt be able to connect suing kfrb to a knoppix machine
[02:49] <slyfox> ddude: you mean just type the keys in the konsole and see if it does the smae?
[02:49] <ddude> slyfox: and u see print
[02:50] <ddude> slyfox: yeah
[02:50] <slyfox> ddude: keysym in my screenshot and I see print ????
[02:50] <AzMoo> lmosher, reading the manual it says that it prompts you about what to do about conflicts. Looks like that's what you're looking for. I'd test it on some kind of non-critical filesystem first though ;)
[02:50] <HP_Vue> I need help installing superkaramba!
[02:51] <slyfox> ddude: all keys work
[02:51] <solecita> hola
[02:52] <lmosher> AzMoo, Yeah, I'll check that out. I'm also looking at rsync -u (update). I says it "skips files that are newer on the receiver). I'm thinking this means I could do rsync -u dir1 dir2 and then do rsync -u dir2 dir1. That would put the newest files from dir1 into dir2, and then vice versa? Or is my logic incorrect?
[02:52] <ddude> slyfox
[02:52] <ddude> slyfox: type cat
[02:52] <slyfox> ddude: could this have broken it in my xorg,conf in the Sreen section?       Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
[02:52] <HP_Vue> pls help!
[02:52] <ddude> slyfox: no, thats beryl crap
[02:52] <scabootssca> how would i make the right "alt" do the same thing as left "alt" key on the keyboard?
[02:52] <ddude> slyfox: type in caty
[02:52] <stevenb486> any here have experience running 3d games in wine? is it better to just dual boot windows if you want to play games?
[02:52] <ddude> slyfox: sry, i mean ca
[02:52] <illusio-x> Hey
[02:52] <ddude> slyfox: cat :D
[02:52] <slyfox> ddude: ok
[02:52] <ddude> slyfox: and then ctrl-alt-f1
[02:53] <slyfox> ddude: and ?
[02:53] <illusio-x> I'm having a problem where nothing happens after the booting screen. It just goes to a blank screen :\
[02:53] <slyfox> ddude: bash: caty: command not found
[02:53] <ddude> slyfox: cat
[02:53] <scabootssca> neverind figured it out
[02:53] <lmosher> stevenb486, I used to play Source games (HL and Day of Defeat) on linux. Worked pretty well, but it's completely hit or miss w/ the games.... imho if you play games more than you do work, just use XP :P
[02:53] <slyfox> ddude: yeah sorry, I did type cat
[02:53] <slyfox> ddude: then ctrl-alt-f1
[02:53] <slyfox> ddude: then I got a black screen again
[02:53] <nomasteryoda> any Ops here?
[02:53] <hbaigu> scabootssca, search for xmodmap in google
[02:53] <slyfox> ddude: then I pressed ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[02:54] <nomasteryoda> i got a "HelpDsk" pm claiming to be from Ubuntu
[02:54] <makuseru> me too
[02:54] <MrSatanic> ME too
[02:54] <BetaCookies> i iwsh i did
[02:54] <ddude> slyfox: it has to do with ur keymaps i think
[02:55] <nomasteryoda> the domain was suspect to me and without the "i" I was certain it was spammer
[02:55] <slyfox> ddude: how do i check them again? I think they are fine everything works as it should
[02:55] <ddude> slyfox: i need to see the output of the f1 key, when u press it in xev program
[02:55] <ddude> slyfox, like this KeyPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x2a00001,
[02:55] <ddude>     root 0x3f, subw 0x0, time 335499182, (109,109), root:(137,129),
[02:55] <ddude>     state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffc8, F11), same_screen YES,
[02:55] <ddude>     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:  ""
[02:55] <BetaCookies> nomasteryoda what was the domain?
[02:55] <AzMoo> lmosher, your logic seems pretty good to me. I'm not sure, I've only ever used rsync one way.
[02:55] <nomasteryoda> just second
[02:55] <stevenb486> has anyone used QEMU to run xp on top of linux? hows the performance?
[02:56] <hackeron> I've overclocked my CPU by a slight amount to stop 720P movies from playing jerky and cpufreq-selector is now reporting no cpufreq support when it works fine without an overclock - any ideas why and how to make it work with the overclock?
[02:56] <nomasteryoda> all"-"tr."com"
[02:56] <lmosher> AzMoo, yeah, same here... and I've never used it to copy locally. I can test it easily enough.
[02:56] <nomasteryoda> i obfuscated that on purpose
[02:56] <slyfox> ddude: http://pastebin.ca/344865
[02:57] <oddworld> hey im having a network problem with kubuntu
[02:57] <oddworld> internet works in xp
[02:57] <oddworld> it used to work in kubuntu, then it jsut randomally stopped
[02:57] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda: amaranth just banned someone for that
[02:57] <oddworld> ? whY?
[02:57] <nomasteryoda> good
[02:57] <nomasteryoda> that is abuse of the system
[02:58] <oddworld> o
[02:58] <lmosher> stevenb486, VMware works OK. No 3D games though :). I've tried doing exactly the same paths your taking. I have to offer the advice that there's no perfect solution to get Windows programs working 100% (or even 70%). Don't use Linux just because it's 'leet'.. if you use Windows programs you might as well use Windows :P
[02:58] <oddworld> i dont use windows programs, im trying to get my wired internet working in kubuntu
[02:58] <cafuego_> bahaarrr@85.105.105.68
[02:58] <oddworld> if i manually enter IP it works, but it cant DHCP
[02:59] <lmosher> stevenb486, I used to use XP for office type stuff, and play Source games (and a few others.. etc.) It's a very large pain overall. That's basically the deal :/
[02:59] <oddworld> have yall had any problems with DHCP
[03:00] <eugene> when i try to install and use kubuntu ubuntu loads ip again
[03:00] <eugene> i get the login screen that say kubuntu
[03:00] <eugene> can someone help me
[03:00] <Need_support> PLEASE ANYONE WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IN VIDEO DRIVERS HELP ME....I HAVE LOST MY DESKTOP ....PLEASE HELP
[03:01] <AzMoo> Need_support, don't yell.
[03:01] <Amaranth> !caps
[03:01] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:01] <taxonrath> i installed php5, and now when i try to run a php file it says its an executable text file
[03:01] <eugene> Help please
[03:01] <Amaranth> Need_support: what's the problem?
[03:01] <Amaranth> taxonrath: install libapache2-mod-php5
[03:01] <oddworld> so manual ip works just fine, DHCP isnt working at all. strange?
[03:01] <lmosher> oddworld, No DHCP works fine on most systems. What paths have you taken to investigate your issue? Is anything strange in the configs?
[03:01] <slyfox> Need_support: use this next time http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:01] <Amaranth> !worksforme | slyfox
[03:01] <ubotu> slyfox: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:02] <eugene> Can someone help me please
[03:02] <HP_Vue> I need help installing SuperKaramba !
[03:02] <HP_Vue> I don't know how to install
[03:02] <carbine_> Anyone know if I could get a mid-aged HP tape drive to work with Edgy server?
[03:02] <Amaranth> !info superkaramba
[03:02] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[03:02] <art_> hello
[03:02] <Amaranth> HP_Vue: install that package
[03:02] <art_> how can i install apatche ?
[03:02] <lmosher> Amaranth, Just curious, why are you having the bot make your arguments for you (don't use caps, don't just tell someone it works them)? It's pretty weak...
[03:02] <HP_Vue> I extracted it, but what do I run? Amaranth
[03:02] <nomasteryoda> art_, apt-get install apache?
[03:02] <daviey> sudo apt-get install apatche
[03:02] <Need_support> Amaranth: I need your help ...in a seperate dialogue
[03:03] <Amaranth> HP_Vue: you install from that package
[03:03] <Amaranth> Need_support: no, just talk here
[03:03] <art_> nope - didnt found pack
[03:03] <HP_Vue> Amaranth: What file do I run??
[03:03] <AzMoo> lmosher, less typing. It's like a faq.
[03:03] <Amaranth> Need_support: just watch for the highlighted lines and say my name before all lines to me
[03:03] <Amaranth> HP_Vue: i dunno
[03:03] <Amaranth> HP_Vue: #kubuntu
[03:03] <carbine_> I'm looking to get a T1000e working with Edgy
[03:03] <eugene> Amaranth: when i install Kubuntu ubuntu loads up but i get the ubuntu login screen
[03:03] <Need_support> Amaranth: ok
[03:04] <Amaranth> eugene: that doesn't make sense
[03:04] <Amaranth> eugene: you installed ubuntu then installed kubuntu-desktop?
[03:04] <lmosher> AzMoo, haha, except it's kind of rude. It's like telling the teacher or something. Fight your pwn battles :P I'm j/k I'm bored...
[03:04] <eugene> yea
[03:04] <oddworld> i cant ping google, but i can go there in firefox
[03:04] <Amaranth> eugene: what's the problem then?
[03:04] <eugene> how do i change the desktop
[03:04] <Amaranth> eugene: oh, you mean login to KDE?
[03:05] <eugene> yea
[03:05] <Amaranth> eugene: on the login screen click options and choose sessions from the menu
[03:05] <AzMoo> lmosher, he IS the teacher! ;)
[03:05] <Amaranth> eugene: and choose the KDE session, then login
[03:05] <eugene> Should the desktop look different
[03:05] <lmosher> We are all peers here :)
[03:05] <slyfox> Cna someone pelase help. Console Login does not work !
[03:05] <Quintin> If I click Places > home folder > then open another folder, my nautilus window *moves*
[03:05] <Quintin> wtf ???
[03:05] <Amaranth> eugene: if you do that, yes
[03:06] <AzMoo> lmosher, some animals are more equal than others :p
[03:06] <pfein> any EVDO users out there?
[03:06] <Quintin> it disappears, then reappears in a different location on the screen
[03:06] <ericskiff> Hey there folks :) I've got a silly question. I just got a mac, and I'd like to install ubuntu on it for dual booting
[03:06] <Amaranth> eugene: it should have one big bar on the bottom of the screen and be blue and purple
[03:06] <ericskiff> I know I don't want the powerPC version, since I've got an intel chip
[03:06] <Quintin> !question
[03:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:06] <lmosher> AzMoo, Now you're equating #ubuntu to Marxist communism? :P
[03:06] <AzMoo> lmosher, if the shoe fits!
[03:06] <ericskiff> but can I use the general i386 ver?
[03:06] <Amaranth> Quintin: breezy?
[03:06] <lmosher> hah
[03:06] <blameless> ericskiff: no, you'll want the x86 version, but i'm not sure how you boot efi on a mac
[03:06] <lmosher> that was a good book, I should read it again
[03:06] <Quintin> Amaranth: yes
[03:06] <slyfox> from visual memmroy I typed in my user name and password and then sudo start x  and it worked, but all this time I had a balck screen
[03:06] <Amaranth> Quintin: sounds like you're running a _very_ old ubuntu
[03:07] <Quintin> Amaranth: er, no
[03:07] <AzMoo> lmosher, Orwell was a genius.
[03:07] <Quintin> Amaranth: edgy
[03:07] <Quintin> Amaranth: 6.10
[03:07] <Amaranth> Quintin: yeah did you turn on spacial?
[03:07] <Amaranth> -yeah
[03:07] <Quintin> Amaranth:   ??
[03:07] <lmosher> AzMoo, I prefer 1984, but Animal Farm is far up there.
[03:07] <Amaranth> Quintin: spacial browsing
[03:07] <Quintin> Amaranth: I have no idea what that is or how to turn it on
[03:07] <Amaranth> Quintin: does your nautilus window have a toolbar and sidebar and such?
[03:07] <pkl_> ericskiff: you can use the i386 version in parallels, either the AMD64 or i386 version in VMware, and either the i386 or AMD64 version in BootCamp if you've got a core 2 duo, otherwise use i386.
[03:08] <Need_support> Amaranth:I was new to ubuntu edgy eft .....and I needed  3D Acceleration ...so I installed the nvidia legacy driver because my card is old (GF2) and it was installed and but did not work ...I looked for a solution .....until one said type this command: sudo modprobe -i nvidia      and restart your Desktop....then I lost it ....PLease help ..I would appreciate it
[03:08] <oddworld> it wont configure under DHCP properly, and when its manual ip it wont ping anything
[03:08] <eugene> Amaranth: i know when useing beryl you use ememarld theme manger to change them. So what manager do you use to change the desktop theme when using kde
[03:08] <_MaXi[M] uS_> loool
[03:08] <Amaranth> Need_support: you need to run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg`
[03:08] <Amaranth> taxonrath: do not PM me
[03:08] <Need_support> Amaranth: And then ?
[03:08] <AzMoo> lmosher, me too. Have you read "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin?
[03:09] <Amaranth> Need_support: and then restart
[03:09] <Quintin> Need_support: You need to have the kernel headers installed before you go futzing about with binary gfx drivers.  apt-cache search linux-headers get the appropriate one for your platform
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> Ugly_Duckling ovde niko nema ni status ni voice
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> :)
[03:09] <Amaranth> Quintin: no you don't
[03:09] <Ugly_Duckling> ma jok :D
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> kakav trip
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> lool
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> :D
[03:09] <Ugly_Duckling> vidis valjda ;D
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> vidim brate
[03:09] <Ugly_Duckling> i nerazumeju nas :D
[03:09] <Quintin> Amaranth: Uhm, to get 3d accel, yes, you do
[03:09] <Need_support> And That's all?
[03:09] <Quintin> Amaranth: and wtf is spacial browsing?
[03:09] <lmosher> AzMoo, No, I don't think so. I think I was supposed to read that when I was attending univ., but I skipped it :(
[03:09] <Amaranth> Quintin: no, you install from a package
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> nista mi nije jasno al nema veze! verujem da cesh ti to meni sve lepo objasniti
[03:09] <Amaranth> Quintin: does your nautilus window have a toolbar and sidebar and such?
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> :DD
[03:09] <Quintin> Amaranth: noooooooooooooooo
[03:09] <Ugly_Duckling> ocu ajdemo sad :D
[03:09] <Need_support> Amaranth: And That's All ?
[03:09] <AzMoo> lmosher, you shouldn't have. Absolutely brilliant.
[03:09] <_MaXi[M] uS_> ae
[03:10] <Amaranth> Quintin: then i have no idea what's going on
[03:10] <cables> Has anyone here tried CBS Innertube on Linux?
[03:10] <Amaranth> Need_support: that should make your desktop work again, we'll get 3d accel after that
[03:10] <Quintin> Amaranth: I guess if you use the deb to install.  I always get the official ones from nvidia.com or ati.amd.com
[03:10] <Amaranth> Quintin: that's not a good idea
[03:10] <Quintin> Amaranth: That's what I've done for years, and it always works fine.
[03:10] <Amaranth> you have to manually reinstall when you get a new kernel
[03:10] <lmosher> AzMoo, Yeah, I was overextended. I skipped a few good books. I skipped out on Metamorphosis too, and when I was at the discussion (which I faked) I decided I should have found the time...
[03:10] <Need_support> Amaranth: OK I will come back for you when I get it back ....Thanks very much :)
[03:11] <Amaranth> Need_support: happy to help
[03:11] <Quintin> Amaranth: I rm -r .nautilus and I'm still having same problem.
[03:11] <zeifer> Hello all
[03:11] <cables> Need_support, have you edited xorg.conf at all?
[03:11] <Prisoner_> hello
[03:11] <makuseru> what would make me not be able to connect with desktop sharing to a knoppix machine but the knoppix box can connect to mine
[03:11] <Saris> hi
[03:12] <Quintin> !hi
[03:12] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:12] <Amaranth> Quintin: yeah, that just wipes out emblems and such you put on files
[03:12] <Prisoner_> this box has an ATI Radeon VE card and the video appears OK, not sure if I need the new driver
[03:12] <Quintin> makuseru: is some kind of desktop sharing running?  firewall ?
[03:12] <makuseru> no
[03:12] <makuseru> i dont have any
[03:12] <Quintin> Amaranth: where are the other settings at?  is there  a folder I can delete?  or do I need to delete .gnome2 ?
[03:12] <Amaranth> Quintin: So you open a folder then when you click on a folder in that window the window moves?
[03:12] <AzMoo> lmosher, I haven't read that one *adds to list*
[03:12] <makuseru> and unless knoppix has some by defualt no
[03:12] <cables> Need_support, I've had Nvidia problems before... have you edited Xorg.conf? cc Amaranth
[03:13] <Quintin> makuseru: your question makes no sense... rephrase?
[03:13] <gerald> i got dual screen to work in the login screen, but when i'm in the desktop, my 2nd screen is all brown
[03:13] <Amaranth> cables: I told him how to reset to a stock xorg.conf
[03:13] <gerald> and i can't move my mouse into that area
[03:13] <Quintin> Amaranth: when I open another folder in nautilus, the nautilus window disappears, then reappears in another location
[03:13] <cables> Amaranth, did his X break, or was it just that acceleration didn't work?
[03:13] <Amaranth> cables: he said his "desktop was gone"
[03:13] <cables> Amaranth, ok, got it
[03:13] <Need_support> cables: Sorry I didn't notice your message .................No  , Not mannually
[03:13] <Amaranth> Quintin: that sounds so much like ubuntu_spatial
[03:14] <xerroz> is there someway to install unbuntu with full debugging symbols?
[03:14] <Amaranth> Quintin: try rm -rf .gconf/apps/nautilus && killall nautilus
[03:14] <cables> Need_support, my message was useless anyway.
[03:14] <lmosher> AzMoo, A traveling salesman awakes one morning to find he's transformed into an insect. It's highly symbolic and quite deep. Kafka FTW.
[03:14] <Quintin> Amaranth: wtf is that?  I've done nothing but install 606, update > 610, > install beryl ...
[03:14] <Quintin> Amaranth: k
[03:14] <hbaigu> !offtopic | AzMoo lmosher
[03:14] <ubotu> AzMoo lmosher: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:14] <Amaranth> xerroz: as of edgy there are debug packages available for every package in a separate repository
[03:14] <Amaranth> xerroz: but i don't know what that repository is, check the wiki
[03:15] <xerroz> blah forgot this was for edgy, not feisty :)
[03:15] <Amaranth> Quintin: use_ubuntu_spatial is something we all want very much to forget about :)
[03:15] <Need_support> cables: ok Thanks  anyway :)
[03:15] <Amaranth> Quintin: i don't think it's existed since breezy
[03:15] <lmosher> AzMoo, see my point? hbaigu could have easily said "hey guys, keep it on topic" but no. He has to use a cold, heartless bit of code to do it. It makes him look weak and nonconfrontational and ergo I'll ignore his !request.
[03:15] <makuseru> Quintin: im trying to connect (desktop sharing) with someone using knoppix, they can connect (control) my desktop. but i cant connet (control) theirs
[03:15] <Amaranth> Need_support: does it work now?
[03:16] <cables> makuseru, using VNC?
[03:16] <makuseru> krfb and krdc
[03:16] <Amaranth> lmosher, AzMoo: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:16] <Quintin> Amaranth: It's still doing it.  wow I'm pissed.  it doesn't totally move now, but it moves down slightly, and to the right slightly.  still no sidebar or toolbar
[03:16] <Need_support> No ....I am on knoppix now...I will reboot now
[03:16] <Amaranth> Quintin: you _don't_ have a toolbar?
[03:16] <Need_support> cables: No ....I am on knoppix now...I will reboot now
[03:16] <Quintin> makuseru: well obviously there has to be a vnc server running on their desktop
[03:16] <Quintin> Amaranth: No, no toolbar.  I can post screen if you need?
[03:16] <lmosher> Well that's better. Could have said please, thanks. etc. Anyway I'm getting back to work anyway, but leaving in a sour-er mood than I might have.
[03:16] <makuseru> which is?
[03:16] <pfein> any EVDO users around?
[03:17] <Amaranth> Quintin: do me a favor: open your home, open another dir in there, move that window far away from where it is now
[03:17] <Amaranth> Quintin: then close the window and open home again, then click that folder again
[03:17] <Amaranth> Quintin: does the window move to where you moved it last time?
[03:17] <Quintin> Amaranth: indeed it does
[03:17] <Amaranth> Quintin: you have spacial and ubuntu's spacial mistake turned on then, hold on
[03:19] <Amaranth> Quintin: edit->preferences, behavior tab, check "Always open in browser windows"
[03:19] <makuseru> quintin: how do i get one running
[03:19] <xored> anybody has a good tool (unix) to handle .patch files with an gui, looking for what the want to change and where problems ar
[03:20] <Quintin> makuseru: the remote user has to have it running .....
[03:20] <makuseru> how do i tell them to use it
[03:20] <makuseru> run ir
[03:20] <makuseru> it*
[03:20] <function1> why isnt my init script running ?! its got SNN links in rc2-5.d and K links in rc0,1,6.d and it works if i run it manually..
[03:20] <Quintin> Amaranth: <3 <3 <3 <3
[03:20] <Amaranth> Quintin: :D
[03:20] <Quintin> Amaranth: I'm guessing it was turned on by default whenever I switched to single-click interface
[03:21] <Quintin> Linux is so not ready for desktop use :P
[03:21] <cables> makuseru, you need to tell them to run the server program. They have to have it first. You should use VNC.
[03:21] <Amaranth> Quintin: oh, probably
[03:21] <andou> My first ever irc session.
[03:21] <cables> andou, congrats :)
[03:21] <andou> Thanks :D
[03:21] <makuseru> the name of the program is VCN?
[03:21] <cables> makuseru, vnc is the protocol. There are different programs for using it. Ubuntu has both a server and client built in for it.
[03:21] <yellow> Quintin, what's up with that linux-notready?
[03:21] <yellow> @_!
[03:22] <makuseru> can you please give me the name of a program
[03:22] <Amaranth> makuseru: for the server?
[03:22] <yellow> flameeeeeee....!!!!!!!!!!
[03:22] <yellow> :P
[03:22] <makuseru> yes
[03:22] <Quintin> yellow: It's not.  I've been using computers since I was 3, programming since I was 6, and if *I* run into stupid problems like this, and can't solve it by myself, it's surely not ready for an end-user.
[03:22] <Quintin> gettign closer, at least :P
[03:22] <Amaranth> makuseru: System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[03:23] <Quintin> Amaranth: found this, http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/spatial-nautilus.html
[03:23] <andou> I'm just wondering, is LAMP a good way to go for setting up a Webserver?
[03:23] <Quintin> andou: well duh
[03:23] <Amaranth> andou: it works, yeah
[03:23] <yellow> Quintin, wha'ts the problem ?
[03:23] <Quintin> yellow: Amaranth helped me fix it.  look at scrollback buffer if you like
[03:23] <andou> Quintin: Hehe. ok, I guess I deserved that.
[03:23] <cables> makuseru, it's built into ubuntu. The viewer is under Apps>Internet>Terminal Server client. Select VNC for protocol. The server is under System>Preferences>Remote Desktop. There should be a VNC server for Knoppix, too, just not sure what it's called.
[03:23] <Amaranth> Quintin: a normal user wouldn't turn on single-click :)
[03:24] <Amaranth> Quintin: "normal users" double-click _everything_
[03:24] <yellow> Quintin, if it's fixed, it's all good
[03:24] <cables> Amaranth, that's so true...
[03:24] <yellow> Quintin, i agree with Amaranth
[03:24] <Quintin> Amaranth: not true!
[03:24] <Amaranth> Quintin: so true
[03:24] <Amaranth> :)
[03:25] <Quintin> Amaranth: I know one very very very normal user (nice way of saying clueless guy) who uses single-click.
[03:25] <Amaranth> anyway, offtopic
[03:25] <makuseru> i have no clue what your talking abotu
[03:25] <cables> makuseru, ubotu's a bot.
[03:25] <ericskiff> pkl_: thanks :)
[03:25] <makuseru> why would it work one way, but not the other
[03:25] <andou> one exception hardly warrants a claim against a generalized statement.
[03:25] <makuseru> cables: that was random
[03:26] <cables> makuseru, i thought you misspelled ubotu and said abotu... i guess it was really "about"
[03:26] <cables> makuseru, what works one way and not the other?
[03:26] <makuseru> desktop sharing
[03:26] <cables> makuseru, you NEED to have a server running on the other computer
[03:26] <cables> makuseru, what OS is the other computer?
[03:26] <DiaboluZ> I got xfce 4.3 up and running, but i have no "start-bar" - the thing at the bottom, so when i minimize programs etc they dissapear... What have i done wrong? i used synaptic to install xfce4....
[03:26] <makuseru> knoppix
[03:27] <makuseru> we BOTH have kfrb and krdc running
[03:27] <hbaigu> DiaboluZ, xfce is that way, you have to add the things to the panel
[03:28] <DiaboluZ> hbaigu> uhmmm ok? hehe - any quick advice on how? :)
[03:28] <saftsack> what to do as debugging if firefox ends shortly after i started it?
[03:28] <cables> saftsack, your profile may be corrupted. Try running firefox -safe-mode to test it.
[03:28] <exarkun> Is Intel PWLA8391GT 10/100/1000Mbps PCI PRO/1000 GT supported in the Edgy kernel?
[03:28] <davey486> where is source.list?
[03:29] <cables> makuseru, you need to set up a vnc server on the knoppix box
[03:29] <saftsack> cables, same error in safe-mode
[03:29] <exarkun> davey486: /etc/apt/
[03:29] <DiaboluZ> davey486> /etc/apt/
[03:29] <saftsack> i call firefox and in the same second im able to enter the next command on the shell
[03:29] <cables> saftsack, try running it from the terminal and seeing what the output is
[03:29] <davey486> thanx
[03:29] <saftsack> cables, there is no output
[03:29] <saftsack> just terminating after .5 seconds
[03:29] <hbaigu> DiaboluZ, right click in the top panel ->add itens
[03:29] <cables> saftsack, that sounds like it happens before it's even loaded the profile. Try reinstalling it (sudo aptitude reinstall firefox)
[03:30] <makuseru> cables: how do i do that
[03:30] <saftsack> it is a fresh ubuntu install
[03:30] <Quintin> exarkun: yes
[03:30] <andou> screen -d
[03:30] <cables> makuseru, i don't know... this is an Ubuntu channel not a Knoppix channel.
[03:30] <exarkun> Quintin: Awesome.  How could I have found that out myself? :)
[03:30] <saftsack> cables, its a 64bit system. are there any annoyances known?
[03:30] <Quintin> exarkun: Intel stuff is always supported. :P
[03:30] <cables> saftsack, not that I know of... did it work on the livecd?
[03:31] <saftsack> dunno hadnt x on the livecd
[03:31] <Quintin> my new computers are soooooooOOOOOOOooOOoo fast.  I thought that my debian on PII-350 was fast
[03:31] <exarkun> Quintin: Hm okay.
[03:31] <cables> saftsack, try the GUI LiveCD
[03:31] <mindstate> i can't wait till get a dual-core
[03:32] <cables> makuseru, try #knoppix
[03:32] <Quintin> I don't even have dual-core.  just p4/ht.  but it's crazyfast!
[03:32] <scoates> hello
[03:32] <Quintin> !hi
[03:32] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:32] <andou> Do you really need dual core?
[03:32] <cables> Dual-core is great for multitasking
[03:32] <cyseed7> Running Dapper with Intel 2200BG wireless card and need WPA1 to access home router. NetworkManager is current per apt-get, but can't find it on Gnome panel.  Card should work per NetworkManager website though some WPA problems noted. Not sure how to access NetworkManager to test WPA feature. FAQs assume NetworkManager is available on panel. Can only see WEP option though System -> Admin ->...
[03:32] <cyseed7> ...Networking.  Card works fine under Dapper at work in non-secure setting at work  Card works fine with WPA under Windows at home.  Any suggestion on getting NetworkManager to appear?
[03:32] <mindstate> andou, no but why not?
[03:33] <andou> mindstate: True, unless money is a factor.
[03:33] <omgsunny> hello what is the command to sync my time?
[03:33] <scoates> when my machine suspends (ACPI S3 State), it takes a _really_ long time to resume. How can I diagnose/fix this?
[03:33] <Quintin> andou: not really..  I don't think average person needs more than 1ghz cpu, 512mb ram :P
[03:33] <cables> cyseed7, run nm-applet from alt-f2. If that works, add nm-applet to your startup.
[03:33] <Quintin> omgsunny: man ntpdate
[03:33] <omgsunny> thank you Quintin
[03:33] <David2007> Basic question - I just downloaded 6.10 - what do I do know to install / upgrade?
[03:33] <jvai> cyseed7, u have to add net managr to the notification area
[03:33] <DiaboluZ> hbaigu> thank you :) In some frontends, like gnome and kde there are tray icons next to the clock, just like in windows - do you know what that function is called in xfce? :)
[03:34] <Quintin> David2007: put the cd in  your computer and reboot ?
[03:34] <mindstate> andou, money is always a factor lol
[03:34] <Quintin> mindstate: unless you're Mark Shuttleworth!
[03:34] <cables> jvai, cyseed7, nm-applet will do that. Add it to your startup in System>Preferences>Session to make it permanent
[03:34] <cables> !NetworkManager | cyseed7
[03:34] <ubotu> cyseed7: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:34] <David2007> So I need to burn to CD?
[03:34] <andou> mindstate: Yeah. I agree. I've got a dual core on my notebook, but not on my desktop.
[03:34] <apecat> David2007: yes
[03:34] <cables> David2007, you shouldn't use a CD for an upgrade...
[03:34] <GaiaX11> David2007: put the cd in the drive and follow the steps to install
[03:34] <hbaigu> DiaboluZ, add the system tray item to the panel
[03:34] <jvai> i stand corrected @ cables
[03:35] <cables> DAvid2007, make sure you back up first... upgrading to 6.10 can do some nasty stuff
[03:35] <Kalrog> Howdy all... where can I get additional codecs for playing media files?  The one I am looking for now is to play a streaming .ram file
[03:35] <mindstate> andou, im running a AthlonXP and im just fine with this lol
[03:35] <DiaboluZ> hbaigu> i did, no effect
[03:35] <cables> !restricted | Kalrog
[03:35] <Quintin> !RestrictedFormats | Kalrog
[03:35] <ubotu> Kalrog: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <mindstate> andou, but it wouldnt hurt to have a dualcore
[03:35] <omgsunny> Quintin, that gives me a bunch of different commands to press and a lot to read.  What's the server?
[03:35] <Quintin> omgsunny: Yea, maybe you should read it.  Server?  Try time.nist.gov
[03:35] <andou> mindstate: I got a venice 3000+ @2.64Ghz and I feel the same.
[03:35] <apecat> David2007: if you have a lot of third party packages installed (for example via automatix/easyubuntu an upgrade could get messy
[03:36] <Kalrog> I don't have much choise about what other people encode their stuff in, otherwise I would stick with free formats almost all the time.  Thanks!
[03:36] <Phrozen_One> anyone in here know if ubuntu can logon to a domain through the gui logon prompt?
[03:36] <andou> mindstate: I check ebay from time to time. If I see a nice X2 for cheap, I might pick it up.
[03:36] <cyseed7> thanks. will work through this
[03:36] <saftsack> cables, now the binary doesnt ends immediately but it doesnt launch a window
[03:36] <fatbrain> What does "Please add the files codeset.m4 ... from the /aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory" mean?
[03:36] <cables> David2007, Apecat's right... back up your stuff. If it doesn't work, install from scratch.
[03:36] <cables> omgsunny, you can do it through gui by right clicking the clock and going to Adjust
[03:36] <GaiaX11> Up to now I did not manage to install edgy because I am always stuck in a blank screen after installing. And i can log in, but my optical mouse does not work properly
[03:37] <Quintin> David2007: Don't listen to them, just install. :p
[03:37] <hbaigu> DiaboluZ, for me it works, do you have some tray applications running
[03:37] <saftsack> cables, no errors
[03:37] <Quintin> David2007: If it fails, you can use a livecd to get your homedir
[03:37] <mindstate> andou, a X2 would be nice as well :)
[03:37] <apecat> David2007: if you've got a separate /home partition it is potentially much faster to do a clean reinstall, just remember to *not* erase/reformat your /home partion
[03:37] <David2007> I am a new (2 hours new) Linux user so starting from scratch. Is there no exe type file like I would find in windows? or pls direct me to a dummies guide...thanks
[03:37] <andou> mindstate: That way I wouldn't have to upgrade any(every)thing else.
[03:37] <apecat> unless you've got all your data nacked up
[03:38] <andou> David: Are you just trying to get updates to your fresh install?
[03:38] <apecat> David2007: are you upgrding from 6.06?
[03:38] <mindstate> brb
[03:38] <Quintin> David2007: Yea there are executable file types.  Extensions just aren't used for them
[03:38] <DiaboluZ> hbaigu> yes :) e.g. utorrent (through wine) which always puts an icon in tray with all the other front-ends
[03:38] <cables> David2007, you need to use a package manager to install stuff. DEB files install packages, but you should always check in Applications>Add/REmove first. There's a lot of software there that can be installed automatically.
[03:38] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: I have a bug with utorrent, can you confirm?
[03:39] <omgsunny> cables, my GUI freezes everytime.
[03:39] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> what's the bug?
[03:39] <DiaboluZ> hbaigu> ahh a restart of utorrent helped on that thingie :) thx for your help man :)
[03:39] <GaiaX11> David2007: burn the .iso into a cd and them put the cd in the drive and install it. But first backup all your data :-) this is the better way
[03:39] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: Open utorrent.  minimize it to tray.  open it again.  is it a very very tall and skinny window?
[03:39] <bamzin> hi! ive downaloaded a dvd iso and when trying to open/burn it says: "CD-ROM is not in iso-9660 format". do anyone know what do i have to change to burn it?
[03:39] <zeifer> Greetz xelados
[03:40] <xelados> hey
[03:40] <Quintin> bamzin: well.. it's not
[03:40] <davey486> I'm getting an error message "E:Malformed line 17 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) " i copied a sources.list file that i knew work from before but i still get the same message, can someone pls help?
[03:40] <Quintin> bamzin: try k3b ?
[03:40] <Quintin> David2007: paste it
[03:40] <GaiaX11> bamzin: you have to burn the .iso image into a dvd
[03:40] <andou> bamzin: What OS are you using?
[03:40] <cables> !pastebin |  David2007, Quintin
[03:40] <ubotu> David2007, Quintin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:40] <bamzin> Quintin: but i cant even open it with the 'files compressor'(by the way, what default program ubuntu edgy use to open compressed files?)
[03:41] <zeifer> davey486, which repo is on line 17?
[03:41] <cables> davey486, after you copy the working one back, run "sudo aptitude update"
[03:41] <xelados> What does ~/.xsession need in it to work? xdm gave me this error message:
[03:41] <zeifer> Or sudo apt-get update
[03:41] <cables> both work fine, i prefer installing/removing via aptitude. better dep handling
[03:42] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> right click on the utorrent tray icon and choos hide/show utorrent and it will work again :) why do you think i needed that tray icon :)
[03:42] <xelados> crap.. I can't seem to grab the text.. haha
[03:42] <bruenig> apt-get has perfect dep handling
[03:42] <bruenig> autoremove
[03:42] <xelados> Anyway, it says that there's no .xsession file and/or no window manager set, etc
[03:42] <cables> bruenig, how do I use that? And is it better than Aptitude in any way?
[03:42] <xelados> 'man .xsession'?
[03:42] <zeifer> xelados: irssi crazy like that, eh?
[03:42] <andou> Oh. I have a question. Why's there no Server version for 6.10? Does it have LAMP included?
[03:42] <bamzin> andou: ubuntu edgy
[03:43] <bruenig> cables, after you remove an application, just do sudo apt-get autoremove to remove all the dependencies.
[03:43] <cables> bruenig, cool... is that in any way better than just using aptitude, which does it automatically?
[03:43] <bamzin> GaiaX11: yes, but my laptop has a dvd-burner and ubuntu seems to recognize it. otherwise a 'burn in dvd' wouldnt be appearing when i right-click on the iso file
[03:43] <bruenig> doesn't force you to remove them
[03:43] <bruenig> gives you the option, and options are nice
[03:44] <makuseru> can someone tell me how to set up a vnc server in knoppix
[03:44] <cables> bruenig, thanks
[03:44] <davey486> zeifer:  line 17 is "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe"
[03:44] <omgsunny> how can i run "sudo man ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com"  what file do i make it/put it in?
[03:44] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> does it work? :)
[03:44] <jvai> banzin.. gnomebaker
[03:44] <cables> omgsunny, why "man"? that just tells you a manual page
[03:44] <omgsunny> without the "man" woops cable
[03:45] <davey486> I tried sudo aptitude update and got the same response
[03:45] <andou> davey486: Did you try updating from the update icon (top right)?
[03:46] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: ?
[03:46] <GaiaX11> bamzin: You have to burn the image and not to copy the image into a dvd. Otherwise it will not be recognised. I mean when you burn the .iso it will be open in a bootable cd :-)
[03:46] <Quintin> makuseru: this is not #knoppix, thanks.
[03:46] <davey486> i don't have an update icon
[03:47] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> the utorrent solution i gave you :)
[03:47] <makuseru> no one is alive in knoppix
[03:48] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: oh.  didn't see.
[03:48] <bewst> Hi; can someone help me with grub repair?  I tried to install feisty to an external drive but now my internal drive doesn't boot anymore.
[03:48] <davey486> makuseru: try #linuxhelp
[03:48] <bamzin> GaiaX11: i know, i know. all the other .iso worked well the way im trying now.. they dont burn a .iso file, but the data inside it. but this one didnt work.. anyway, maybe the file is corrupted. ill try downloading this .iso again. thanks!
[03:48] <xelados> I need help setting up xdm for Fluxbox. It spits an error at me saying that there's no window manager in a session file, and no session file.
[03:48] <LiENUS> whens the next ubuntu lts ?
[03:48] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> found it or should i paste it again?
[03:49] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: yes.  I asked you a yes / no question
[03:49] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> yes i can confirm, but i also pasted the solution :)
[03:49] <deafboy> what's a good linux substitute for navicat?
[03:50] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: right-clicking > show / hide utorrent still puts it in a tall and skinny window
[03:50] <LiENUS> whats navicat deafboy ?
[03:50] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: Do you know any way to make it go away from the taskbar?
[03:50] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> tall skinny window - you mean a window where you can not see the torrents right?
[03:50] <deafboy> LiENUS: it's a mysql administrator ( i already tried mysql admin for linux)
[03:50] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> nope
[03:51] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: right.  it can be resized to correct this, but it's still annoying
[03:51] <LiENUS> whens the next ubuntu lts ?
[03:51] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> yep annoying it is :S
[03:51] <DiaboluZ> but it still works fine :9
[03:51] <jvai> ok uall starbucks kickin me out.. ty u all!
[03:51] <bruenig> Quintin, what version of wine do you have. When I downgraded, the stick looking thing you had to resize went away
[03:51] <DiaboluZ> Better than any other native torrent client :)
[03:51] <GaiaX11> bamzin: It already happened with me and the problem was because the cd was dirt. So, wash it with water and put it in the driver to see what happens. Normally, I don't even dry the cd I put it there still wet :-)
[03:52] <bruenig> Quintin, but when I did have that, I would always just keep it on its own workspace, always maximized. So if you needed to access it, you could just click on the workspace and never worry about anything
[03:52] <hbaigu> DiaboluZ, Quintin did you tryed to winecfg and set a emulate desktop
[03:52] <oljanx> Other than Nvu, which seems horribly buggy, is there a good Dreamweaver style IDE that I might find?
[03:53] <bruenig> oljanx, no
[03:53] <DiaboluZ> hbaigu> yes i think i did :)
[03:53] <DiaboluZ> but as said, the bug doesn't bother me :)
[03:54] <Quintin> bruenig: hell if I know.  whatever comes with 6.10.  I don't even know how to check. :p
[03:54] <Quintin> bruenig: that is a good idea
[03:54] <Quintin> 6.10 by default has only 2 virtual desktops?
[03:54] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: So you get maximum throughput with utorrent 1,6 under wine?
[03:55] <talz> my cpufreq on max even the its running on bat  and i have laptop mdode enabled    could i getz some help plz D;   the laptop is literaly just sitting there....... itll drop to 1ghz for like 1 second then jump back to 1.6 for 5 mins  then repeat
[03:55] <bruenig> Quintin, not sure. You can create more though by just right clicking on it and properties
[03:55] <Quintin> bruenig: I know how to create more, thnaks :P
[03:55] <Quintin> hbaigu: no.. should I?
[03:56] <Quintin> What is a script that will run automatically whenever I log in graphically?
[03:56] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> yep, why, you don't?
[03:56] <hbaigu> Quintin, i don't use utorrent, soo i don't now if it is better
[03:56] <LiENUS> talz run fewer apps
[03:57] <talz> its right off of boot
[03:57] <talz> havent started anything
[03:57] <bruenig> Quintin, just create a script and then put it in the sessions startup tab
[03:59] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: I'm still experimenting.
[04:00] <LiENUS> hve you installed cpufreqd talz?
[04:00] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: I'm getting 60kbytes/s right now, which is only like 5% of my max speed
[04:00] <talz> ya
[04:00] <bruenig> ktorrent is pretty good now, I think you have to compile the latest one though to get the rss which is all I am waiting on
[04:01] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> hmm ok... i can run as much as 9 Mb/s on my 100mbit connection, which i think is fine :)
[04:04] <Dostname> hi
[04:04] <talz> i even got power management set to prefer power saving over preformence
[04:04] <proudfoot> !wireless
[04:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:04] <proudfoot> !wifi
[04:04] <bruenig> !hi | Dostname
[04:04] <ubotu> Dostname: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:05] <Dostname> Thank you :) .
[04:05] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: mmm how you have 100mb link?
[04:05] <Dostname>  from turkey
[04:05] <scabootssca> how do i make a file hidden?
[04:05] <cables> scabootssca, put a . before the name
[04:06] <Quintin> scabootssca: put a '.' in front of it
[04:06] <cables> so file becomes .file
[04:06] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> on a root server :)
[04:06] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: eh ?
[04:06] <Dostname> VeryGood   IRC
[04:06] <Dostname> you IRC
[04:06] <Need_support> Amaranth: Back for some 3D Acceleration :)
[04:06] <Dostname> ;) help very goog
[04:06] <scabootssca> cool thanks
[04:06] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> yes - i have rented a dedicated server and run it on there :)
[04:07] <Quintin> Is there a way to get Vista-style "Ubuntu needs your permission to continue [yes]  [no] " instead of being asked to enter my password?
[04:07] <cables> !nvidia | Amaranth, did you read this guide?
[04:07] <ubotu> Amaranth, did you read this guide?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <proudfoot> gi
[04:07] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: How do you get your stuff off the server?  Is it close physically?
[04:07] <proudfoot> hi
[04:07] <yellow> Quintin, why you need that ?
[04:07] <Quintin> yellow: cause typing my password is fing annoying?
[04:07] <Mys_Teri> Hello I have a probably dumb question.  Where in my files can I find ASLACONF?  I know it is there somewhere as I used synaptic to reinstall it.  I think running it will fix my sound card problem but I can't find it.  I tried the search option and nothing showed.
[04:07] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> no, i download it normally, got 20Mbit at home and 1Gbit at work :)
[04:07] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> using ftp :)
[04:07] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: Then why run it there at all? :P
[04:08] <Mys_Teri> Sorr make that ALSACONF
[04:08] <cables> Amaranth, sorry, meant that for Needs_support
[04:08] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> not allowed to run torrents at work, and only got 1Mbit up at home ;)
[04:08] <proudfoot> Dumb question, I have a card which uses the atheros chipset, which is supported by the included madwifi drivers
[04:08] <proudfoot> I put the card in, rebooted
[04:08] <yellow> Quintin, isn't there supposed to be a time interval where sudo remembers the passrd ?
[04:08] <proudfoot> what do I do from here?
[04:08] <cables> !nvidia | Needs_support, did you read this guide?
[04:08] <ubotu> Needs_support, did you read this guide?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:08] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: So you need to keep your ratio up for private trackers, eh.  I seee
[04:08] <bruenig> yellow, for 15 min
[04:09] <Quintin> yellow: Yes.  I DON'T WANT TO TYPE MY PASSWORD.  You seem to be missing that.
[04:09] <Need_support> cables: I see :)
[04:09] <bruenig> !caps
[04:09] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:09] <Quintin> as in *ever* post-login
[04:09] <yellow> lol Quintin
[04:09] <cables> Quintin, that's an important security feature in Ubuntu. You can't disable it.
[04:09] <bruenig> Quintin, edit the sudoers
[04:09] <Quintin> bruenig: bite me.
[04:09] <bruenig> cables, certainly you can
[04:09] <yellow> Quintin, there's always root login
[04:09] <Need_support> I got my Desktop back but no 3d Acce*
[04:09] <proudfoot> Hello?
[04:09] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> that, and we are a couple of guys who share that dedicated server, so we always can max our private lines in stead of having to wait for sloooow torrents and having our computers turned on 24/7
[04:09] <Quintin> yellow: That would be rather foolish though.
[04:09] <cables> bruenig, Quintin, sorry... apparently you can.
[04:10] <bruenig> Quintin, yeah you can create a root password and login as root if you want
[04:10] <Need_support> cables:  Can you help me please? I will appreciate it
[04:10] <bruenig> or you can edit sudoers
[04:10] <proudfoot> hi
[04:10] <yellow> Quintin, well then you're gonna have to compromise security vs. convenience
[04:10] <cables> Need_support, sure... private chat?
[04:10] <yellow> that's what sudo and su is there for
[04:10] <Quintin> bruenig: I'm pretty sure it can be changed via sudoers, but I don't want that.  I want to have clickable yes / no buttons, instead of being asked for password.
[04:10] <Need_support> cables:  Yeah better
[04:10] <Quintin> bruenig: I'm not logging into a gui as root, that's insane
[04:11] <yellow> Quintin, what's the point of yes / no dialog but to anoy you
[04:11] <yellow> I assume you know what you're doing if you're asking for this feature
[04:11] <bruenig> Quintin, well if you can set it up to do that, you can probably do it, but that will take effort on your part, there is no option that you can enable for that
[04:11] <deafboy> how do i execute a really big sql file with mysql via terminal?
[04:11] <Quintin> deafboy: /join #mysql
[04:11] <bruenig> Quintin, you can always use the interactive parameter
[04:12] <bruenig> -i
[04:12] <Quintin> yellow: To caution the user that the requested action requires root privileges.  duh.
[04:12] <cables> Need_support, did you see my pm?
[04:12] <bruenig> they have that for most of them
[04:12] <Quintin> bruenig: hmm?
[04:12] <proudfoot> Hello?
[04:12] <yellow> Quintin, that's where su and sudo's for
[04:12] <Amaranth> Need_support: did you get it figured out?
[04:12] <cables> !hi | proudfoot
[04:12] <ubotu> proudfoot: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:12] <yellow> Quintin, just get a su term running alongside gnome
[04:12] <proudfoot> Hi, I'm having an issue with wireless
[04:13] <yellow> then whatever you do in that term you know it's root prev
[04:13] <Quintin> yellow: Which involves TYPING I DO NOT WANT TO TYPE.  thanks.
[04:13] <cables> !wifi | proudfoot
[04:13] <ubotu> proudfoot: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:13] <jay> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0 what causes that error?
[04:13] <proudfoot> as I understand it, my card is supported by the default madwifi drivers
[04:13] <Quintin> yellow: noooo
[04:13] <proudfoot> but it is still not detected
[04:13] <yellow> lol well then i'm out of ideas
[04:13] <bruenig> Quintin, get to hacking
[04:13] <cables> proudfoot, sounds like a firmware issue. What happens when you try to use it?
[04:13] <proudfoot> It doesnt show up under networking
[04:13] <Quintin> bruenig: you mean get out my wallet.  I hate coding :p
[04:14] <yellow> Quintin, if it's just a yes/no question, how is that more secure than not running as root ?
[04:14] <cables> Need_support, I tried to pm you... did you get it?
[04:14] <Quintin> yellow: ???
[04:14] <Quintin> yellow: Running as root, all programs you run have root privileges.
[04:14] <makuseru> can someone tell me how to set up a vnc server in knoppix
[04:14] <bruenig> he isn't looking for security. He doesn't want to type password, but wants parts where you would to have a little prompt so that people perhaps double check it to make sure it isn't going to screw something up
[04:14] <Quintin> makuseru: This is not #knoppix
[04:14] <cables> makuseru, like I said, this is not a Knoppix channel. #knoppix
[04:14] <yellow> Quintin, you just want a yes/no question everytime you install/do some admin task right ?
[04:15] <Quintin> yellow: yes.
[04:15] <Need_support> cables: of course I got it and I sent you a ton of messages..did you receive them ?
[04:15] <makuseru> and no one has talked in knoppix for nearly two hours
[04:15] <cables> Quintin, get out your favorite editor and start coding
[04:15] <cables> Need_support, none of them...
[04:15] <Need_support> Strange
[04:15] <Quintin> 22:23 < Quintin>   I hate coding :p
[04:15] <kitche> Need_support: you need to be registered to pm
[04:15] <Quintin> hate quoting myself.
[04:15] <bruenig> makuseru, forums, wikis. google, or perhaps just ##linux but not another distros channel
[04:16] <makuseru> been googling for 3 hours
[04:16] <yellow>  from the point of view of a malicious script/prog, how is that different from having a user logged in as root all the time ?
[04:16] <hbaigu> Quintin, you can set the setuid bit of a program, a run it a its user
[04:16] <Need_support> cables: do you copy?
[04:16] <cables> Need_support, /msg NickServ REGISTER <password-you-want>
[04:16] <makuseru> there is hardly any documentation for knoppix, or vnc
[04:16] <siezer> why is it when i do an "nmap localhost", I see the results I expect, but when I do an "nmap `hostname`" or an "nmap `hostname -f`", I only see 3 services (ssh, http, and vnc)? I've checked iptables (iptables -F)..... /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 hostname.domain.lan hostname\n127.0.0.1 localhost\n (edgy)
[04:16] <cables> Need_support, that will register your nick with Freenode
[04:16] <Quintin> hbaigu: true, but I don't think that would totally accomplish what I want
[04:17] <Need_support> Poor Nick but never Mind :)
[04:17] <cables> Need_support, do you have any trouble following the instructions in the link that was sent to you by Ubuntu?
[04:18] <DiaboluZ> Is there a way to show entire traffic speed divided in up/down on one certain port on my system?
[04:19] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: Oh, here is another one.. have you gotten torrent files setup to open with utorrent?
[04:19] <proudfoot> cables
[04:19] <proudfoot> a more specific problem
[04:19] <CodyLoco> Is anyone here extremely good at graphic design?  I want to hire someone to make me an amazing logo for a website and I'm willing to pay for quality...
[04:19] <DiaboluZ> Quintin> no, automaticly save torrent files to a folder which utorrent watches
[04:19] <proudfoot> when i do sudo pccardctl ident
[04:19] <proudfoot> i get a command not found
[04:19] <Quintin> DiaboluZ: mm
[04:19] <cables> proudfoot, i can't help you with wireless... i'm not too good at that.
[04:19] <Quintin> CodyLoco: ME.  or #web
[04:20] <CodyLoco> Quintin do you have any samples?
[04:20] <PCGenie> hello, I have been considering shifting to Ubuntu for my webserver; I have been using Mandrake since 1998 and recently upgraded my hardware to AMD64; what is the maximum or RAM that Ubuntu Server runs on?
[04:20] <Quintin> CodyLoco: Samples?  pfft.
[04:20] <CodyLoco> ...
[04:21] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi. I'm wondering where I can find good Open Office fonts.
[04:21] <Quintin> CodyLoco: PM me
[04:21] <Quintin> PCGenie: Probably more than you have.
[04:21] <PCGenie> Quintin, I hope so. I have 512
[04:21] <Quintin> PCGenie: I don't see any issues.
[04:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> Nevermind, I found #openoffice.org.
[04:22] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks.
[04:22] <PCGenie> Quintin: how well does the ubuntu run on AMD64?
[04:22] <yellow> PCGenie, unless you need more than 4GB/server  64bit does not make big difference
[04:22] <xelados> PCGenie: I'm running Xubuntu 6.06 on an AMD and it works nicely
[04:22] <Quintin> PCGenie: about as well as any other linux distro.
[04:23] <xelados> The only stuff I have to worry about are media codecs and Fx plugins.
[04:23] <yellow> xelados, why is that ?
[04:23] <yellow> i'm thinking about putting it on my laptop
[04:23] <Jordan_U> PCGenie: Everything non proprietary works perfectly, things like flash from companies that won't make a 64 bit port can be made to work but it is a hassle
[04:23] <xelados> Because not all 64-bit codecs or plugins have been made yet
[04:24] <wally> Hi, anyone know how to get 6.10 to recognise a external modem?
[04:24] <Secion8> Does anyone have the flash player tar package they can send me? Adobe does not want to let me download it. keeps timing out.
[04:24] <yellow> xelados, ok, i wasn't thinking about that part
[04:24] <Jordan_U> Secion8: Just get it from the repos
[04:24] <xelados> You can still get'em to work through howtos like firefox32, etc though
[04:24] <xelados> Automatix and EasyUbuntu help, too
[04:24] <Jordan_U> !automatix | xelados
[04:24] <ubotu> xelados: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:25] <Secion8> Jordan_U: I try but it keeps timing out.
[04:25] <xelados> !WorksForMe
[04:25] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:25] <Jordan_U> xelados: Please don't recommend Automatix
[04:25] <Secion8> Jordan_U: Only on the flash player though so i know it os not my network
[04:25] <xelados> Ah so it's that bad, huh?
[04:25] <Secion8> Very Strange
[04:25] <xelados> What exactly does it screw up?
[04:25] <bowhuntr> What do people here think about CNR, the service from Linspire
[04:25] <proudfoot> !easyubuntu
[04:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:26] <proudfoot> !atheros
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <Jordan_U> xelados: Upgrades will completely ruin your Ubuntu install if you have used Automatix, at least it is very likely it will screw it up, if it doesn't then you are lucky
[04:26] <PCGenie> I am now using an ECS RS482-M with integrated ATI Radeon X300 based graphics core, are there any issues with the graphics chips on board?
[04:26] <xelados> Jordan_U: as in, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' style?
[04:26] <Secion8> This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from Macromedia (or mirror). It is useful for mozilla browser variants.
[04:26] <Secion8> Adobe site keeps timing out.
[04:26] <xelados> or changing from dapper to edgy, etc?
[04:27] <davey486> my dvd drive is locatedd at /dev/hdc and im trying to use Varsha that wants it at /dev/scd0, can someone help me fix this
[04:27] <PCGenie> Jordan_U: did you mean Flash Player?
[04:27] <PCGenie> xelados: are you running the Ubuntu Server for the AMD 64 edition?
[04:27] <DiaboluZ> No one got an idea on monitoring trafficspeed on certain ports?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> xelados: No, as in gksu "update-manager -c" style ( don't dist-upgrade to Edgy unless you have read the upgrade notes )
[04:28] <vox754> Jordan_U: how can people "not" recommend Automatix? It's already very popular. I've never used it, though.
[04:28] <xelados> Ubuntu Server? I'm not sure what you mean.
[04:28] <xelados> If you mean the barebones installation, yes.
[04:28] <Jordan_U> PCGenie: Yes, it's available in backports
[04:28] <PCGenie> xelados: there is the desktop and server versions of install
[04:28] <jay> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4679/ having problems with fglrx
[04:29] <metal03> Hello everyone, I have a .msi file I'd like to use...  is there a way in Linux to do so?
[04:29] <xelados> Yeah, when I installed I typed 'server-expert'
[04:29] <PCGenie> Jordan_U: thanks
[04:29] <Jordan_U> vox754: Hopefully new features in Feisty will make Automatix obsolete
[04:29] <Jordan_U> metal03: A .msi file is a windows config file isn't it?
[04:30] <xelados> Regardless, you guys know more about the OS than I do, so I'll make a note to not recommend Automatix.
[04:30] <xelados> What should I do or recommend instead?
[04:30] <vox754> Jordan_U: same thing with EasyUbuntu? I mean, there is a forum dedicated to it; that's pretty big.
[04:30] <bruenig> xelados, figure out what their problem is, how to solve that problem, and recommend that
[04:30] <Jordan_U> xelados: Reading the wiki or if needed easyubuntu
[04:30] <xelados> bruenig: Alright.
[04:30] <bruenig> there is no reason you need to offer a third party app to do something for you, especially some of the things or really a lot of the things automatix does is jokingly easy
[04:31] <Quintin> xelados: use apt, like a normal person?
[04:31] <PCGenie> for someone who has been running Mandrake for almost a decade, what is the learning curve to install and maintain Ubuntu?
[04:31] <bruenig> like fonts, the script does "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[04:31] <xelados> lol Quintin
[04:31] <bruenig> ooooh,  good thing we have might automatix
[04:31] <metal03> Jordan_U: Not sure...  it's a program I ran in windows...  and on the website it says that it's linux compatible...
[04:31] <bruenig> mighty&
[04:31] <hbaigu> davey486, Varsha has a preferences setting for the dvd writer location
[04:32] <Jordan_U> metal03: I know almost nothing about windows but if it is an executable you can run it via Wine.
[04:32] <vox754> PCGenie: right now it is Mandriva, right?
[04:32] <davey486> hbaigu:  all i can find is scd0 - 4
[04:32] <PCGenie> vox754: yes but I am still running Mandrake 10.x
[04:33] <metal03> Jordan_U: No, it's some kind of compressed date used in installation I think...  you use msiexec.exe to extract I think!
[04:33] <Jordan_U> vox754: I have heard that Easyubuntu installs things correctly and safely, but it really isn't necisary IMO
[04:33] <kai> hallo
[04:33] <metal03> data*
[04:33] <LiENUS> but its soooo easy :/
[04:33] <PCGenie> mostly, I might be an Admin but that is not all I do for a living so I do not want to go crazy learning Ubuntu
[04:33] <Jordan_U> metal03: What are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[04:34] <kai> hallo jemad da
[04:34] <SirOSOriS> how do you ignore someone on x-chat?
[04:34] <kai> ok by by
[04:34] <cafuego_> SirOSOriS: right click their nick and choose 'Ignore'
[04:34] <xelados> I need to figure out how to get xdm to load Fluxbox when I login through either the default Xsession or ~/.xsession. I don't know what to do or what to edit, though.
[04:34] <bruenig> SirOSOriS, /ignore
[04:34] <metal03> It's a very complete addon to OpenOffice that does spellcheck and grammar check in french
[04:34] <metal03> trying to install it
[04:35] <vox754> Jordan_U: I guess so. I installed all codecs and so with the "apt-get" line provided in the Restricted Format page. I guess you're right.
[04:35] <Jordan_U> xelados: Can't you just choose it as the session when logging in and then save it as the new default when it asks you?
[04:36] <xelados> Jordan_U: in xdm? I didn't see an option for it anywhere. It's just a login dialog
[04:36] <xcidental> does ubuntu cache the settings of xorg.conf?  asking because i added a resolution to the listing, rebooted and cannot select the new resolution
[04:37] <Jordan_U> vox754: In Feisty when you try and play a video that you don't have the codec for it detects what package you need and offers to install it for you.
[04:37] <kitche> xcidental: well the resolution in xorg.conf is different then the gnome applet at least from what I can see I tend to ignore the gnome applet all together anymore
[04:37] <Jordan_U> xcidental: Do you have the correct drivers installed?
[04:38] <xcidental> xorg says i have the nv driver installed
[04:38] <Mys_Teri> Why would I get this when I click on Adept?  When I try to click on adept to try to use it I get Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or directory)
[04:38] <Jordan_U> !nvidea | nv is the reverse engineered open source driver get the official nvidia driver here
[04:39] <Jordan_U> !nvidea | xcidental nv is the reverse engineered open source driver get the official nvidia driver here
[04:39] <kitche> !nvidia
[04:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <kitche> :)
[04:39] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, kdesu is the command to get graphical root privileges
[04:39] <rj__> Jordon_U: how stable is Feisty as of now?
[04:39] <hbaigu> xcidental, see what says in the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log about that resolution
[04:39] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try opening a terminal and typing, kdesu adept
[04:40] <YoshiG3> Has anyone installed Limewire on Linux? I need some help :(
[04:40] <At0mic_PC> Would any of you guys know how to DRMify a MP3?
[04:40] <cables> !frostwire | YoshiG3
[04:40] <ubotu> YoshiG3: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:40] <bruenig> frostwire is garbage
[04:40] <YoshiG3> cables: Thanks
[04:40] <YoshiG3> oh
[04:40] <YoshiG3> frostwire sucks?
[04:40] <Brime> why?
[04:40] <bruenig> I don't like java period
[04:40] <GaiaX11> bruenig: I like frostwire
[04:40] <bruenig> but it sucks up a lot of resources for such a small thing
[04:40] <cafuego_> Nothing wrong with Java.
[04:41] <vox754> Jordan_U: do you recommend upgrading to 7.04? I'm currently satisfied with 6.10, and I don't want to break my wireless card. I fixed it, but I don't know if automatic updates or "ndiswrapper" made the trick.
[04:41] <LiENUS> 7.04 is out?1
[04:41] <LiENUS> ?!!
[04:41] <cafuego_> LiENUS: no
[04:41] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I get command not found
[04:41] <bruenig> I mean a browser is one thing, but a p2p client which should run in the background, should not be running like that. Azureus the same
[04:41] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, that is not good
[04:41] <LiENUS> then why would vox754  upgrade to 7.04?
[04:41] <Pelo> bruenig,  what do you recommend instead then ?
[04:41] <SpudDogg> Are there any advantages to using Kubuntu/KDE instead of Ubuntu/Gnome?
[04:41] <xcidental> hysnc out of range...so im guessing update driver, reboot x and all should be solved?
[04:41] <Quintin> vox754: uh, 7 is beta software.
[04:41] <Pelo> SpudDogg,   personnal preference
[04:41] <bruenig> I don't know, gtk-gnutella
[04:42] <LiENUS> whens the next LTS version going to be released?
[04:42] <vox754> LiENUS: just asking, for when it is released. Obviously, there are guys with many CPU's testing all these things.
[04:42] <SpudDogg> Pelo, that's what I thought, but I assumed there may have been something I missed.  Thanks man
[04:42] <hbaigu> xcidental, that mean that the mode is not in the range valid for that monitor
[04:42] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, do "whereis kdesu"
[04:42] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I just installed Ubuntu a couple of days ago, I had it check the disc.
[04:43] <Pelo> SpudDogg,  each comes with its own library of software but you can install the otherone's on it anyway with a few extra files
[04:43] <GaiaX11> bruenig: For some time I used apollon, but after installing frostwire I am better off now
[04:43] <At0mic_PC> Anyone know what audio format that has higher quality and can be played on a samsung t619?
[04:43] <At0mic_PC> 3gp seems low quality.
[04:43] <marlene> i am trying to connect my cell phone to my laptop but it recoginise it as a serial device ttyUSB0...  how can I mount this device??? in ubuntu dapper drake
[04:43] <vox754> Quintin: I know, I know. Maybe we should limit talking about new versions because people get confused easily.
[04:43] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I got kdesu:
[04:44] <vox754> LiENUS: solved your wireless problem?
[04:44] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, that is weird, you didn't do anything with kdesu did you?
[04:44] <xcidental> hbaigu: its my 1080p lcd monitor so it should handle the resolution, maybe the drivers i have currently cant support it
[04:44] <YoshiG3> Is Feisty Fawn much better than Edgy?
[04:44] <Pelo> marlene,  try the ubuntu forum , search for your phones's model ,
[04:44] <Mys_Teri> No, I haven't touched it, shoot I don't even know what it is.
[04:44] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, not sure of kde, but on gnome, they have gksu and gksudo, so try "whereis kdesudo"
[04:44] <LiENUS> vox754, ?
[04:45] <witless> would anyone care to recommend a bittorrent client for edgy?
[04:45] <rj__> vox754: can you confirm that 7.04 will auto-offer codec download&install on attempting to play media for which the codec is not yet installed?
[04:45] <bruenig> witless, utorrent through wine or ktorrent
[04:45] <Pelo> witless,   utorrent on wine
[04:45] <bruenig> rj__, it will auto-offer, there are some screenshots of it doing that in development
[04:45] <Pelo> witless,  but keep an eye out for deluge-torrent,  it looks promessing,
[04:46] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: i get kdesudo:
[04:46] <vox754> rj__: I have NOT tested it. That info came from Jordan_U. #ubuntu+1
[04:46] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, that is unfortunate. You can run adept  by doing, "sudo adept" but that won't do for the menus, you would always have to go to terminal which would become annoying probably
[04:47] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I am brand new to Linux and Ubuntu but I have not deleted anything.
[04:47] <witless> is utorrent in the repositories?
[04:47] <marlene> Pelo: ok thanks
[04:47] <vox754> LiENUS: weren't you the guy that couldn't use "network-manager" in LSU?
[04:47] <IcemanV9> witless: nope
[04:47] <LiENUS> something to that effect
[04:47] <LiENUS> it still dislikes lsu
[04:47] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: All I want to do is run alsaconf so I can get my sound card found.
[04:48] <bruenig> rj__, http://www.flickr.com/photos/28313023@N00/375559390/in/set-72157594510537135/
[04:48] <aestetix> Quick question, trying to get dual monitors working with Edgy, I added the second device/monitor into xorg.conf, it loads but won't initiate the second monitor. Any idea why?
[04:48] <rj__> bruenig: thanks.  I'm excited for that feature.
[04:48] <bruenig> rj__, this channel will become more and more complex
[04:48] <bruenig> because these little things will be solved
[04:49] <IcemanV9> how can I improve the response of network-manager to connect to WIFI with WPA1?? sometimes it takes up from 1 - 4 minutes to connect.
[04:49] <Jordan_U> bruenig: What is the feature? I can't tell from the screen shot
[04:50] <bruenig> Jordan_U, there is a slideshow going through the steps let me get that link
[04:50] <geo-> has anyone gotten SLI to work?
[04:50] <bruenig> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28313023@N00/sets/72157594510537135/show/
[04:50] <Jordan_U> bruenig: Is this the libgimmecodec?
[04:50] <bruenig> from the same sounds like it
[04:50] <vox754> aestetix: maybe you need to set some "Option" explicitly under your driver name. Can't really help you because I haven't set up Dual monitors.
[04:50] <bruenig> click on a file, it gives you an option to get the codec
[04:50] <zerooninja> wahts the command for superuser?
[04:51] <zerooninja> for terminal?
[04:51] <Jordan_U> zerooninja: sudo
[04:51] <zerooninja> ty
[04:51] <IcemanV9> zerooninja: your username password
[04:51] <IcemanV9> nm :(
[04:51] <maltz> sup
[04:51] <rj__> bruenig: Just viewed slideshow.  Very slick!
[04:52] <aestetix> vox754: I tried "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT,CRT" but it didn't work
[04:52] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Thanks for the help, I think I shall give it a rest for a bit.  I am getting a bit frustrated and I don't learn things well if I'm not in a calm mood.
[04:53] <shmeelAway> hi, does any1 know a script that allows me to open things as root with a right click and going to script?
[04:53] <x2mjokada> !java
[04:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:53] <vox754> aestetix: My impression is that it is driver-specific, so you need to read your manual page, like "man nv". Mine is a VIA.
[04:53] <YoshiG3> !frostwire
[04:53] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:53] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, there is something seriously wrong, it is not you being stupid or anything. kdesu not being there is a big problem and a rare one, at least I have never seen it
[04:53] <aestetix> good idea
[04:54] <Mys_Teri> bruenig:  Would my best bet be to download a different copy of Ubuntu and install again?
[04:54] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, worth a shot. I have never seen someone missing kdesu. Can't imagine how it could have gone
[04:55] <Mys_Teri> I'm using a Compaq Deskpro PIII with 256 mb ram and 6 gig hard drive could it be my computer?
[04:56] <xcidental> thanks all for the help, installed drivers and am running at the correct resolution
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, no, this is literally just a single file that is gone for some reason
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this "sudo fine / -iname kdesu
[04:56] <bruenig> \
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this "sudo fins / -iname kdesu
[04:56] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this "sudo find / -iname kdesu
[04:56] <bruenig> the last one
[04:56] <bruenig> the find
[04:56] <aestetix> vox754: does the identifier actually have to correspond to the specific model? I thought it was just a name for X to use.
[04:56] <vox754> xcidental: you make a donation to any project you like...
[04:57] <IcemanV9> reinstall kubuntu-desktop might do the trick?
[04:57] <shiv> how do I make my desktop an ftp server so that I can connect to it from work?
[04:58] <xcidental> once i get my system all setup and tweaked i just may
[04:58] <xcidental> this is my 3rd go with ubuntu and im hoping this time i stick with it
[04:58] <yellow> shiv get ssh
[04:58] <shiv> ok
[04:58] <QMario> Are there any Linux partitioners that can resize an NTFS Hard Drive?
[04:59] <pesb10> how can i reinstall unbuntu without deleting my data
[04:59] <yellow> shiv, ssh will be useful for a lot of things, not just file trasnfers
[04:59] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Well I think it is doing something I can hear the hard drive working, out put in the Terminal though.
[05:00] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this see if maybe the PATH is messed up, "/usr/bin/kdesu adept"
[05:00] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, try this see if maybe the PATH is messed up, "/usr/bin/kdesu /usr/bin/adept"
[05:00] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Make that no out put in the terminal
[05:00] <vox754> aestetix: I think it is just a name, as you say.
[05:00] <yellow> QMario, hehe if you know one, i'd sure want to know him/her too
[05:00] <aestetix> ok
[05:00] <marlene> Hi
[05:00] <yellow> hi marlene
[05:00] <pesb10> can someone help me?
[05:00] <shmeelAway> hi, does any1 know a script that allows me to open things as root with a right click and going to script?
[05:00] <rj__> Is it possible to download via 802.11 and simultaneously push the data across Cat-5 to network attached storage?
[05:00] <cables> !can | pesb10
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <pesb10> cables : how?
[05:00] <cables> pesb10, sorry
[05:01] <yellow> pesb10, do you have an extra partition /hard drive to save you data ?
[05:01] <cables> pesb10, ask your question
[05:01] <pesb10> nop
[05:01] <pesb10> cables : no
[05:01] <cables> pesb10, did you already ask it?
[05:01] <rj__> Qmario: Gparted
[05:01] <cables> ok, sorry then
[05:01] <pesb10> my hdd has only 1 partition
[05:01] <yellow> QMario, listen to rj__
[05:02] <pesb10> cables : u mean i will lose my data?
[05:02] <cables> pesb10, i was typing to the wrong person, sorry
[05:02] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I get no such file or directory.
[05:02] <shiv> yellow, I installed ssh now how do I invoke it. Is it a GUI based program. I need to leave my PC running so taht I can access it from work for files. Thats a
[05:02] <QMario> Thank you everyone! :)
[05:02] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <Need_support> cables: Good Morning :)
[05:03] <cables> Need_support, success?
[05:03] <yellow> shiv, edit your config file sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd.config
[05:03] <Need_support> SUCCESS .....^_^
[05:03] <yellow> shiv, then start it with /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:03] <Need_support> Thnaks cables
[05:03] <cables> Need_support, now to get rid of the nvidia logo on startup
[05:03] <x2mjokada> !azeurus
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azeurus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <marlene> I have a fujitsu siemens laptop running ubuntu dapper and i have problem with acpi as giving me kernel panics.. I've google it but I can't find out what's the problem..
[05:03] <bruenig> !azurues
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azurues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <Need_support> hmmm
[05:03] <bruenig> !azureus
[05:03] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:03] <x2mjokada> !azuerus
[05:03] <Need_support> let's go private
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azuerus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <vox754> pesb10: I'm sure there is a way to create another partition, so you can copy your files.
[05:04] <x2mjokada> !azureus
[05:04] <TravisivarT> hey does anyone know how to enable "legacy usb" or "usb" support in the awardBIOS so that GRUB can recognize my keyboard?
[05:04] <bruenig> x2mjokada, he already spit it out
[05:04] <cables> Need_support, is private working this time?
[05:04] <marlene>  ACPI-0517: *** Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_ .PCI0.AC0_._PSR]  (Node dffe9620), AE_TIME
[05:04] <yellow> shiv, sorry, edit your config file sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:04] <vox754> pesb10: you need to provide specific information like the output from "/etc/fstab" and "sudo fdsik -l"
[05:05] <x2mjokada> thnx
[05:05] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I accidently ran the find one again and got this result  find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc/4773: this may be a bug in you r filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier r esults may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[05:06] <cables> Need_support, it seems like private isn't working
[05:06] <yellow> shiv, the sshd_config should be straight forward, read the comments as well
[05:06] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, wouldn't worry about it. Your system does seem very messed up. Did you use any scripts or something you weren't sure of. Automatix maybe
[05:07] <Need_support> cables: Do you recieve my Messages ?
[05:07] <Need_support> on private
[05:07] <cables> Need_support, no...
[05:07] <cables> Need_support, the rest is quick.
[05:07] <cables> We'll do it here
[05:07] <shiv> yellow, I do not see anything to be edited in there the defaults seem to be fine.
[05:07] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: No trying that other command now
[05:07] <shiv> yellow, Do I need to add a user in there. If yes How?
[05:08] <yellow> shiv, yes, just so you know where to edit things later on if you need
[05:08] <yellow> shiv, the user name / pass would be whatever you use to log in at start up
[05:08] <Need_support> cables: To sum up the whole process What should I do next time I install ubuntu on my computer ? directly install the driver?
[05:08] <pesb10> vox754, sorry, i'm not good with linux...can you explain more?
[05:08] <cables> Need_support, follow the right guide. Go to wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <kazukisan> Is ubuntu ever gona have easy support for 64bit/32bit side by side installing? without jail shell
[05:08] <yellow> ssh users are users of the computer
[05:08] <shiv> yellow, the init.d says it failed
[05:09] <yellow> what's the message ?
[05:09] <cables> Need_support, open Xorg.conf (sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf) and find the section "Device". Right under the line that says "Driver "nvidia"", add the line
[05:09] <cables> Option          "NoLogo"
[05:09] <pesb10> vox754, i wan to reinstall my linux without formating ...is it possible?
[05:09] <yellow> sudo it ?
[05:09] <yellow> or try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:09] <cables> Need_support, then save and restart comp/do ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:09] <Need_support> cables: What will this do?
[05:10] <vox754> pesb10: not really, but you don't have to loose your data. You can always keep your data safe.
[05:10] <cables> Need_support, it'll stop the Nvidia logo from coming up every boot
[05:10] <alex_> could anyone give me some advice on how to change the background color the gnome menus?
[05:10] <zak__> i screwed up my users & groups, and now CD's aren't automatically mounted... how do i fix this?
[05:10] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: Now it is doing something with lots of text.
[05:10] <Need_support> cables: I see......
[05:10] <xelados> I need to figure out how to get xdm to load Fluxbox when I login through either the default Xsession or ~/.xsession. I don't know what to do or what to edit, though.
[05:10] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, just when that is done, trying opening adept again from the menus
[05:10] <xelados> Jordan_U: in xdm? I didn't see an option for it anywhere. It's just a login dialog
[05:10] <xelados> Hah, oops.
[05:10] <YoshiG3> !VLC
[05:11] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:11] <pesb10> vox754, ic...but my hdd is only 1 partition...and i cant access into linux...can i copy my data into another hdd?
[05:11] <xelados> !xdm
[05:11] <ubotu> xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 756 kB
[05:11] <xelados> :o
[05:11] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I will, it's downloading stuff now.
[05:11] <cables> Need_support, it can't break anything... but if it does, use "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in recovery mode to fix it. Then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again when you reboot in order to reinstall the driver.
[05:11] <shmeelAway> hi, does any1 know a script that allows me to open things as root with a right click and going to script?
[05:11] <shiv> yellow,  that worked now I just login via any ftp from any other computer to my IP address? Is that it?
[05:11] <Need_support> cables: I see......Thanks Thanks and Many Thanks :)
[05:11] <zak__> someone should add gmusicbrowser to that audio player list... and/or add it to the repositories if it's not there... i downloaded it and it works great
[05:12] <cables> shmeelAway, you mean like open it in a text editor as root? I have something like that...
[05:12] <vox754> pesb10: you bet, you can. You can run a Live CD Linux, then copy your info to another disk. Kill your old disk, reinstall and you copy back your data.
[05:12] <yellow> shiv, open your firewall and router at the port your set in sshd_config
[05:12] <bruenig> gmusicplayer, wow how generic
[05:12] <shmeelAway> i have the text editor
[05:12] <shiv> yellow, that by default is 22
[05:12] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: How long do you think it takes to know what you are doing in Linux?
[05:12] <pesb10> vox754 , ic...thanks alot...but erm can you teach me the process?
[05:12] <shmeelAway> but i used to have somehting that would actually open it as root
[05:12] <yellow> shiv,  yes
[05:12] <bruenig> Mys_Teri, depends
[05:13] <cables> shmeelAway, in a text editor as root? I have a script that does that, I can pastebin it and tell you where to put it.
[05:13] <Need_support> cables: So there's a new ubuntu release due to Aprill this year ... Is it LTS?
[05:13] <zak__> bruenig: that's what i thought... but it's actually pretty damn good... it's not exactly elegant and stylish - it's just packed with features and seems to "just work". backends to either gstreamer or mpg123/ogg123
[05:13] <shmeelAway> cables, sure, thanks
[05:13] <yellowdart> i have a buddy that i just hooked up with ubuntu.. he asked me if there were any ways he could set his keyboard to type phonetic japanese (i know it can be done on mac)...any ideas??
[05:13] <cables> Need_support, don't think so.
[05:13] <Need_support> cables: So no need to migrate :)
[05:13] <YoshiG3> Why doesn't Rythmbox play music?
[05:14] <bruenig> !quicktime | YoshiG3
[05:14] <ubotu> YoshiG3: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:14] <cables> Need_support, your choice
[05:14] <shiv> yellow, I did tha and restarted ssl still wont connect
[05:14] <bruenig> zak__, I don't see gmusicbrowser in the repos
[05:14] <phiqtion> can i install Ubuntu without GRUB overwriting Windows Bootloader? can i tell GRUB to install on Linux's partition?
[05:14] <vox754> pesb10: I can guide you step-by-step right now. You really need to give information about your disk, partitions, operating system, file systems,...
[05:14] <piedoggie> my wife's a system lost its hard drive yesterday.  Using spinritem I think I've been able to rebuild the last partition but unfortunately, it's under LVM and I'm not sure how to recover that partition
[05:14] <yellow> shiv, where are you connecting to it from?
[05:14] <yellow> windows or another ubuntu ?
[05:14] <tracy> whats a good file sharing program to download MP3s for ubuntu (not bittorrent like)
[05:14] <linuxor> hi
[05:15] <Asc__> Is there any way to get GNOME to use no theme?
[05:15] <piedoggie> unfortunately the boot partition is toast so you can't just boot the drive
[05:15] <Asc__> tracy, I think limewire is popular.
[05:15] <shiv> yellow, the same computer as this it self. Is taht a problem?
[05:15] <pesb10> vox754...ok thanks...wat info you need?
[05:15] <phiqtion> can i install Ubuntu without GRUB overwriting Windows Bootloader? can i tell GRUB to install on Linux's partition?
[05:15] <tracy> ah, someone told me limewire wouldnt work - guess they were wrong :) thanks
[05:15] <Need_support> cables: You and many of the guys here seem professionals in ubuntu ....what's the secret? How can I learn?
[05:15] <zak__> bruenig: it's written in perl, and seems to run fine without installation... it not being in the repository sucks a little, but it's not something you've gotta recompile and install
[05:15] <cables> Need_support, just use it for a while... I've only been using Linux for 6 months... you learn fast.
[05:16] <yellow> shiv, you need to get on another machine to test it
[05:16] <bruenig> zak__, yeah I googled it, it looks pretty basic and kind of ugly
[05:16] <Asc__> tracy: it takes a bit of work - I don't think it's in the repositories.
[05:16] <linuxor> I've problems to install ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400 on my labtop DELL
[05:16] <GaiaX11> How do I access a net outsider PC through ssh?
[05:16] <shiv> yellow, I just did that same result
[05:16] <kitche> phiqtion: you can but think you need to use the alternate cd for it
[05:16] <piedoggie> phiqtion: don't worry about the boot loader, it will be detected (usually) and you should be all set to dual boot
[05:16] <vox754> pesb10: "I CANNOT" guide you right now. I made a mistake in the previous post.
[05:16] <bruenig> zak__, what is that context tab?
[05:16] <yellow> shiv, the other machine is also ubuntu ?
[05:16] <Asc__> tracy: never mind, I guess it is.
[05:16] <piedoggie> it meaning the Windows partition
[05:16] <shiv> yellow, no windows
[05:16] <Asc__> things have changed so since I last tried.
[05:17] <pesb10> vox754....erm...aiks...ok...its ok..thanks alot
[05:17] <cables> shmeelAway, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4684/
[05:17] <cables> Save that as text to ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[05:17] <zak__> bruenig: it is kind of ugly, but it seems to be much, much, much more feature rich than others... like, you right click on the song title and in the menu it has other songs of the same name [ie, covers of that song, or live versions] 
[05:17] <Mys_Teri> bruenig: I take it that this is updating my installation right?  Does this mean that I can upgrade in the future this way?  I don't have a CD Burner on my computer and the family one is always busy.
[05:17] <cables> shmeelAway, take out the line numbers first though
[05:17] <shmeelAway> thx
[05:17] <yellow> shiv, get putty and winscp
[05:17] <pesb10> vox : i'll try to troubleshoot around
[05:17] <shmeelAway> alright
[05:17] <phiqtion> piedoggie: but will GRUB be installed to MBR automatically? i want window's bootloader to stay on MBR and from there, i can launch UBuntu's GRUB
[05:17] <zak__> bruenig: context tab gives lyrics, but i think it does other stuff too depending on plugins
[05:17] <yellow> shiv, winscp is for transfering files over ssh, just like ftp
[05:17] <xelados> Does the Ubuntu wiki cover xsession and whatnot?
[05:17] <bruenig> zak__, ah, have you seen listen
[05:17] <vox754> pesb10: I'm terribly sorry. I missed the NOT.
[05:17] <xelados> Or can someone refer me to a resource or channel, or _something_?
[05:18] <zak__> bruenig: apparently not ..
[05:18] <piedoggie>  phiqtion yes  grub  will be installed on the MBR  but you'll have two entries, one for ubuntu the other for Windows
[05:18] <Need_support> cables: hmm it sepends on how much problems you face I think because using the Desktop only teaches you no more than windows does.
[05:18] <Need_support> depends*
[05:18] <shmeelAway> cables, where do i put the file?
[05:18] <phiqtion> piedoggie: can i choose where i want GRUB to be installed?
[05:18] <yellow> shiv, putty is for ssh into your ubuntu box and do whatever from command line
[05:18] <shiv> yellow, I think I am missing something in the config file. Do I need to edit anything else besides port? Do I need to set up any other user or uncomment anything else here
[05:18] <cables> shmeelAway, ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[05:18] <zak__> anyone know how to re-enable automounting if i screwed it up?
[05:18] <linuxor> Please        I've problems to install ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400 on my labtop DELL  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[05:18] <yellowdart> linuxor, are you trying to install with the fglrx (binary) driver, or are you doing AIGLX?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> xelados: You could use gdm instead of xdm?
[05:18] <yellow> shiv, i believe not
[05:18] <linuxor> yeah fglrx
[05:19] <yellow> shiv, did you try winscp ?
[05:19] <GaiaX11> How do I access a computer which is not in my intranet through ssh? Every time that I do ssh username@ipnumber it hangs!
[05:19] <xelados> Jordan_U: I'd prefer to stay away from GNOME and KDE. :\
[05:19] <cables> Need_support, dammit, I forgot to tell you that the driver breaks suspend/hibernate support
[05:19] <Need_support> cables: ?
[05:19] <phiqtion> piedoggie: can i choose where i want GRUB to be installed?
[05:19] <piedoggie> phiqtion: I believe you can.  I just did an install and I seem to remember something about it installing it in a partition as well as mbr.  But seriously, why?
[05:19] <Jordan_U> xelados: It's not gnome, it's just Gnome's DM
[05:19] <zak__> xelados: i've heard about another feature rich login manager that's not related to any desktop and is pretty light... but i forget what it's called
[05:20] <shiv> yellow, not yet wait
[05:20] <cables> Need_support, if you suspend or hibernate the computer, you won't be able to get back from it, you'll have to shut it down again.
[05:20] <GaiaX11> I remember that in debian it was very easy to do that
[05:20] <xelados> Jordan_U: Doesn't it rely on GNOME for its API or libs?
[05:20] <piedoggie> I've been doing this for way too many years (Red Hat 3.03) and whenever I let grub be smart, it usually wins.  If I try to be smart, I do a reinstall
[05:20] <vox754> pesb10: keep asking here, it's not really that hard.  Or you may have better luck on weekends.
[05:20] <YoshiG3> Isn't there a Ubuntu General channel?
[05:20] <shiv> yellow, I am just typing ftp://192.168.2.103 in IE as both machines are on the same router
[05:20] <yellowdart> linuxor, i would suggest using AIGLX
[05:20] <cables> Need_support, there was a hack that was supposed to fix it, but it made my computer really unstable when I tried it. If you want, I'll send you a link.
[05:20] <xelados> I'm willing to learn as long as I have a good resource.
[05:20] <Need_support> cables: Isee..... so you have a nvidia card also?
[05:20] <phiqtion> piedoggie: because now i believe, GRUB doesn't recognize VISTA or MACOSX86. my vista has everything setup in the bootloader to launch XP, LINUX, and MAC
[05:20] <cables> YoshiG3, for discussion about it?
[05:20] <xelados> That's part of why I went with the server installation option.
[05:20] <cables> Need_support, yep
[05:21] <yellow> shiv, http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.zip
[05:21] <piedoggie> so the question is phiqtion, are you smarter than me?  :-)
[05:21] <Jordan_U> xelados: Yea, but I think most of those libs are required for XFCE also, try running apt-get install gdm and see what it says it will need to install.
[05:21] <GaiaX11> How do I access a computer which is not in my intranet through ssh? Every time that I do ssh username@ipnumber it hangs!
[05:21] <linuxor> yellowdart, how can i find it
[05:21] <GaiaX11> I remember that in debian it was very easy to do that
[05:21] <yellow> shiv, this is scp, not entirely ftp
[05:21] <xelados> Jordan_U: I'm also not using XFCE, but will do.
[05:21] <shmeelAway> cables, didn't work =.=
[05:21] <yellowdart> linuxor, try this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX ..just do the first part.. and make sure that your driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is set to "ati"
[05:21] <shiv> yellow, I see wait then
[05:21] <Need_support> cables: I remeber losing my session twice when hibernating ( I mean the computer :)   )
[05:22] <cables> shmeelAway, run this command: killall nautilus
[05:22] <xelados> 'apt-get install gdm' adds a crapload of new packages.
[05:22] <Jordan_U> xelados: Oh, I thought you had mentioned it before, my mistake
[05:22] <cables> shmeelAway, then right click on something and look at the scripts submenu
[05:22] <xelados> I'd wager it's half of GNOME :p
[05:22] <yellowdart> linuxor, just ignore the beryl stuff.. unless you want a really sweet desktop..
[05:22] <piedoggie> phiqtion: I see, it's the Microsoft trying to own the world model.  It looks like they finally got smart to the boot loader issue.
[05:22] <cables> Need_support, before or after Nvidia?
[05:22] <yellow> shiv, brb
[05:22] <xelados> Jordan_U: No problem. I'm sorry if I sound impatient or cranky. Just trying to learn and wade through it all. :)
[05:22] <phiqtion> piedoggie: because when i start Ubuntu it says something about TTY not being found, any thoughts?
[05:22] <piedoggie> I would suggest doing the install up to the point of installing the boot code.  If it doesn't do is you want, then back off until you can find what you need
[05:23] <phiqtion> piedoggie: so im gonna reiinstall
[05:23] <linuxor> yellowdart, thx a lot friend i'll ttry it and come back, thx
[05:23] <piedoggie> as for the TTY message, that must be happening really early in the boot process
[05:23] <phiqtion> piedoggie: yes it is
[05:23] <piedoggie> I would suspect a problem with init
[05:23] <Need_support> before This ubuntu installation , I had edgy running with a driver ...but for some reason I reinstalled it and problems arose :)
[05:23] <piedoggie> which is definitely a reinstall time
[05:23] <cables> Need_support, weird...
[05:23] <piedoggie> which distribution are you trying to install?
[05:23] <phiqtion> piedoggie: yeah, 6.10
[05:24] <Need_support> cables: I know
[05:24] <Need_support> cablers: :)
[05:24] <Need_support> cables: :)
[05:24] <piedoggie> that goes in slick as iced s***  on most of my machines (except for my Compaq laptop)
[05:24] <piedoggie> here's another potential solution for you
[05:24] <shiv> yellow, boy boy boy I love you. This is cooooool
[05:25] <piedoggie> I run XP because I'm disabled and need to use speech recognition
[05:25] <piedoggie> I run Linux as a virtual machine on top of XP
[05:25] <cables> piedoggie, do you use Dragon? Dragon's great. I wish they'd come out with a Linux version.
[05:25] <piedoggie> speech recognition  to the virtual machine doesn't work well because of some unprintable stuff with nuance and Microsoft
[05:26] <piedoggie> but if I use putty, it works okay
[05:26] <Need_support> cables: I have to go now ..... Thanks for helping me ...won't forget it :)
[05:26] <cables> piedoggie, that's not why... it's because the VM doesn't look like a text box, it looks like an image. So the recognizer can't work with it.
[05:26] <shmeelAway> cables, still not there -.-
[05:26] <cables> piedoggie, Nuance and MIcrosoft don't have any secred deals to keep it from working in VM
[05:26] <piedoggie> so instead of trying to install dual partition dual-boot, run a virtual machine.
[05:26] <cables> shmeelAway, i'm going to look into something
[05:26] <shmeelAway> what do i type in exactly to open up the file i want to edit?
[05:26] <shmeelAway> sudo gedit ____
[05:26] <cables> shmeelAway, you don't need to edit anything...
[05:27] <cables> shmeelAway, this script is for making you not have to use that command
[05:27] <shmeelAway> oh
[05:27] <piedoggie> cables: true, there are no secret deals.  It's only that nuance is firetrucking incompetent
[05:27] <Jordan_U> piedoggie: They probably can't help but you might want to ask about accessibility in #ubuntu-accessibility
[05:27] <piedoggie> I am looking for some talent to help with making speech recognition work across the Windows Linux barrier
[05:28] <cables> piedoggie, they're not. It's not possible for them to work in a VM because a VM is a big image. No textbox, no input.
[05:28] <piedoggie> the project is a mediator to transfer keystrokes over and window state back so that the recognition engine will operate properly
[05:28] <cables> piedoggie, that would be good. But don't blame Nuance for this.
[05:28] <m_billybob> there is no motivation for MS to do so, especially since VIsta is their newest prise, with very good speech recognition
[05:28] <shmeelAway> cables, i have that script already aparently, but i just wnated something so that i could open say my external harddrive as root
[05:29] <piedoggie> Jordan_u: we are speaking terms and I am an acquaintance of one of the accessibility developers who is local to me.  In other words, we'll have lunch and speak friendly :-)
[05:29] <m_billybob> prize*
[05:29] <inazad> Allo, j'aimerais savoir s'il est possible de changer la methode du boot de Ubuntu... genre pour en mettre une differente comme ceux de KNOPPIX.. Est-ce possible ?
[05:29] <cables> shmeelAway, then you change gedit to nautilus.
[05:29] <shmeelAway> and some1 provided me with a script eariler that was right click and you open it as root, but when i reinstalled ubuntu it was lost
[05:30] <cables> shmeelAway, make a copy of the script, rename it something different, and edit it so that it opens nautilus and not gedit
[05:30] <root> can someone hav a look at http://www.pastebin.ca/344991 for me please? fglrx not working
[05:30] <GreyGhost> inazad ,u mean work off a live cd?
[05:30] <piedoggie> cables: the image aspect of the display has nothing to do with it.  It's how keystrokes are injected into the system and communicated to the application.  Naturally speaking injects at a fairly low level but apparently VM Ware connects underneath that
[05:31] <shmeelAway> alright, so i just change the last line of the thing you gave me before?
[05:31] <m_billybob> keyboardhook mangling ?
[05:31] <cables> piedoggie, when I think about it, I guess you're right...
[05:31] <shmeelAway> to "sudo nautilus $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_URIS"
[05:31] <shmeelAway> or do i change something else too
[05:31] <piedoggie> which is why the mediator Project.  if we can capture from NaturallySpeaking and inject at the right level as defined by at-spi, we will be in pretty good shape
[05:31] <cables> that looks right. You may want to change the comment to nautilus too, to make it pretty.
[05:31] <heatman> is there a way i can deactivate my onboard videocard since i have a secondary one.. an pci? it is deactivated in my pc's bios but for some reason ubuntu and other linux os can always detect it.
[05:31] <shmeelAway> lol
[05:32] <piedoggie> anyway, I'm still looking for help with recovering my LVM encumbered partition
[05:33] <shmeelAway> aha!, thanks cables =)
[05:33] <piedoggie> m_billybob was that keyboard hook mangling question directed at me?
[05:33] <GreyGhost> errr... Ubuntu got messedup .... It doesnt boot anymore for me :( ... onl thing i remmber is that i deleted one of my FAT32 partitions from within Windows :( and since then Ubuntu loads up (according to the loaderbar.. but the login windows never comes up.... and Ctrl + alt + F1 ... etc doesnt do anything ..
[05:33] <cables> shmeelAway, no problem
[05:34] <root> can someone hav a look at http://www.pastebin.ca/344991 for me please? fglrx not working
[05:35] <stonarmusic> can someone help me with my ipod shuffle?
[05:35] <stonarmusic> for some reason it's not being detected
[05:35] <inazad> GreyGhost, no I want the boot like these of KNOPPIX... http://tyge.sslug.dk/knoppix/knx5/01-knoppix-boot-process.png
[05:36] <Jordan_U> stonarmusic: Not even as a flash drive?
[05:36] <GreyGhost> inazad ,sorry no idea .. :(
[05:36] <inazad> GreyGhost, ok
[05:36] <IcemanV9> root: did u see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ? i followed its instruction and it is up & running w/o a problem.
[05:37] <xerroz> anyone have luck getting radeon dri to work?
[05:37] <stonarmusic> Jordan_U - no
[05:37] <zak__> heh, i'm doing a pretty windows-centric IT course, and it really surprises me how much linux is like windows
[05:37] <noodles12> for sata harddrives. woudl the adapter type be sda instead of ide? or would we put sata? ( for a vmware file edit
[05:38] <stonarmusic> Jordan-U - it doesn't show up in dmesg either
[05:38] <xelados> Awesome! I figured it out.
[05:38] <xelados> Google was actually helpful.
[05:38] <piedoggie> sata noodles12
[05:38] <root> I'm going to try that one
[05:38] <noodles12> piedoggie: thanks. and how would i makea copy of the mbr?
[05:38] <piedoggie> typo
[05:38] <piedoggie> sda
[05:38] <Jordan_U> stonarmusic: Do other USB flash drives work?
[05:38] <xelados> All I had to do was create a link to my ~/.xinitrc with ~/.xsession, make sure both had +x permissions, and restarted X.
[05:39] <noodles12> piedoggie: so it's sda instead of ide?
[05:39] <noodles12> piedoggie: or sata?
[05:39] <Jordan_U> xelados: Great :)
[05:39] <piedoggie> more correctly, a speech recognition error.  Yes, it's sda instead of ide
[05:39] <piedoggie> I hate having to spell acronyms and device names
[05:39] <heatman> lol
[05:40] <piedoggie> I have to apologize for a lot of misunderstandings
[05:40] <xerroz> is there a way to run a session inside a session?
[05:40] <m_billybob> piedoggie: so make some macros ;)
[05:40] <Jordan_U> piedoggie: Can you teach it new words?
[05:40] <jrib> xerroz: gdmflexserver would be one way
[05:40] <jrib> xerroz: gdmflexiserver even
[05:40] <piedoggie> pastbin of macros in a moment
[05:40] <xelados> What's a good lightweight file manager that's comparable to Thunar but not tied into XFCE?
[05:40] <m_billybob> ru row
[05:40] <xelados> I've heard good things about rox.
[05:40] <m_billybob> ruh row*
[05:41] <xelados> I really like the 'bookmark' feature of thunar.
[05:41] <noodles12> how would u go abotu copying the mbr?
[05:42] <XiCillin> you know what would be cool? an app that shows you all the peripherals attached to your computer
[05:42] <XiCillin> does ubuntu have something like that?
[05:42] <m_billybob> piedoggie: you code ? the latest .NET stuff would work wonders for you, if so, there is supposed to be tons of speech stuff in the framework, if i recal correctly (although i havent 'played' with it personally)
[05:42] <piedoggie> my macros: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4687/
[05:42] <xelados> XiCillin: I have an awesome app for that. It's called 'human-eyes'
[05:42] <xelados> :p
[05:43] <Jordan_U> XiCillin: Yes, can't remember the name for it though
[05:43] <mlalkaka> how come the luxi sans and luxi serif fonts don't appear as options in openoffice.org? they're not in the fonts pull-down menu? is there anything i can do to fix this?
[05:43] <XiCillin> jordan_u, yea eyes work, but not very well under a dark desk
[05:43] <XiCillin> woudl it be in the repos?
[05:43] <piedoggie> m_billybob: I spent 18 years coding, 12 years disabled (became IT consultant), and I've picked up some Python programming by voice over the past five years.  I think I've generated something like eight or 9000 lines of code
[05:44] <piedoggie> the Vista speech recognition may be better but the cost of trying it out is too great
[05:44] <Jordan_U> XiCillin: Device manager sort of does that
[05:44] <m_billybob> piedoggie: something worth looking into, .NET make codinga bit easier
[05:44] <piedoggie> I am so addicted to my Bluetooth headset for speech recognition.  It's the best computer peripheral I've ever had
[05:44] <root> Version: 8.28.8 is the version that xserver-fglrx installed. Where can I get a later version of fglrx? That one apparently won't do. (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[05:44] <piedoggie> only if your hands work
[05:45] <m_billybob> i personally had a hard time doign osme things in C++, C# rolled around, and suddenly, im coding things in hours, that normaly took me weks, if not months before hand
[05:45] <piedoggie> I'm sure.  I've heard quite good things about the environment.  But I spent so many years doing things the hard way that I really like using Python
[05:45] <piedoggie> it's a breeze in comparison.
[05:45] <m_billybob> if you know your libraries sure
[05:46] <m_billybob> .NET however *is* ver OOP
[05:46] <m_billybob> very*
[05:46] <piedoggie> Don't forget, there is this mental resistance to C family languages for me.  That's what I was using when my hands broke and I was fired as soon as they could do so legally
[05:46] <zak__> m_billybob: but ints and stuff still aren't objects, are they?
[05:46] <xelados> piedoggie: How'd you break your hands?
[05:46] <piedoggie> it's an irrational association but I swear to God, every time I try to hack up some C code, I freeze.
[05:46] <m_billybob> zak__: variables are types . . .
[05:46] <zak__> m_billybob: if it has things that aren't objects, i don't consider it object oriented :)
[05:47] <m_billybob> and types can also be object, or, tested as objects :)
[05:47] <piedoggie> xelados: don't really know.  I know that typing made things worse and doctors don't know what's wrong.  It's a neuropathy of some sort but I haven't found anyone that can identify it or treat it
[05:48] <zak__> i like how .NET aims to support several languages... but i wouldn't use it just for C#
[05:48] <piedoggie> under the .net framework, I believe iron Python is supported
[05:49] <cyphase> anyone know what happened to Diva? http://diva-project.org/
[05:49] <m_billybob> piedoggie: you can not even compare C to C++ let alone C#, its completely different, if you're adverse to 'C' use VB.NET, the compiled code comes out the same as C#, and VB.NET is no longer "VB' in that its truely OO, forget abotu the stigma
[05:49] <xcidental> anyone have an idea why dvd playback would crash or where a log file would be with more information on the crash?
[05:49] <m_billybob> piedoggie: keep in mind, i have a high opinion of Phython also
[05:50] <kazukisan> Okay i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and when i reboot for the first time into it i get the ubuntu loading screen then after that i get the screen with the ubuntu color with dark likes and it just sits there looking like its frying my screen ??
[05:50] <piedoggie> it's not a stigma so much as a sensation that I put my hand into it, it willcause me as much pain as putting my hand in boiling water
[05:50] <zak__> m_billybob: i'm sure C# is an improvement over C++, but it [in Mono, anyway]  doesn't run much faster than a decent LISP implementation anyway - and i'd prefer to have something completely dynamic
[05:50] <m_billybob> VB.NET actuall 'speaks' out very simular to english
[05:50] <YoshiG3> Rythmbox is good after you get the right codecs lol
[05:50] <m_billybob> zak__: under windows, .NET apps can be often faster than regular binaries
[05:51] <piedoggie> I used C++ many moons ago, the implementation was cfront.  I get so that it reading the translation of the front-end I could tell the compiler vendor what was going wrong.
[05:51] <m_billybob> i dont claim to be an expert, but it has to do with instruction caching
[05:51] <rich-> need help to install a feisty package on my edgy box, msg me if you can help :)
[05:51] <piedoggie> it could also be a just-in-time compiler
[05:51] <m_billybob> piedoggie: yes, i understand, the sytax can be daunting, one of the things i dont like about it
[05:51] <m_billybob> i think any form oc C, C++ is 'ugly' code
[05:52] <m_billybob> form of*
[05:52] <piedoggie> Microsoft does compilers really well so I wouldn't be surprised if.net made for fast code
[05:52] <Fedge> Has anyone had any luck dual booting vista and ubuntu?
[05:52] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: can u change the background?
[05:52] <kazukisan> no its not even solid its a bunch of lines and it just slowly changes to blackish color back to tanish
[05:52] <m_billybob> piedoggie: well, my 'goal' here, was just to inform, not to 'convert' ;)
[05:52] <kazukisan> and repeats
[05:52] <piedoggie> no problems.  Neither was mind
[05:53] <YoshiG3> Anyone know of some good games for Linux?
[05:53] <m_billybob> simply put, i lost all interrest in coding years ago,  .NET changed that for me big time
[05:55] <m_billybob> piedoggie: oh, just rememberd, i think they even have a Python#, and if i remember that incorrectly i KNOW there is a Perl#
[05:55] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, im trying to boot again with splash and quiet disabled, right now its just sitting on ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0]  bus is 0   and not doing anything from tthere
[05:55] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: strange; never seen it before. did you have that problem with it before you installed Ubuntu??
[05:55] <gerald> can someone help me with dual screen.  I only get a brown screen on my 2nd monitor
[05:55] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, no the live cd even worked
[05:55] <jaydub> fglrx still uses an old driver 8.28 that doesn't match my kernel
[05:55] <jaydub> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[05:55] <jaydub> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[05:55] <GreyGhost> so anyone who can help me? Ubuntu suddenly stopped booting (wont display the login screen...) after i thoink i deleted the FAT32 partition that i've got..
[05:56] <piedoggie> well, m_billybob I am needing some help on a couple of Python projects.  One of them might even be interesting
[05:56] <piedoggie> message me if you're interested
[05:56] <yellowdart> m_billybob, there's way more languages than that: http://www.dotnetpowered.com/languages.aspx
[05:56] <Fedge> Has anyone had success dual-booting vista and ubuntu?
[05:56] <mhiku> why does ncurses isnt on the cvs anymore?
[05:56] <wasabi_> fedge, Should be no different than dual booting XP.
[05:57] <m_billybob> yellowdart: yeah i know, but what i mention could be taken in context, with the 'discussion'
[05:57] <dbglt> has anyone managed to get horizontal scrolling working on a laptop touchpad? According to my xorg config, it should be enabled, but only vertical scroll works
[05:57] <jaydub> I just followed the binary ati install
[05:57] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, If i boot with recovery mode it works
[05:57] <Fedge> wasabi_: after installing ubuntu and creating an emtpy partition for vista, vista won't allow me to install to it
[05:57] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: hmm .. try this command, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, in the terminal. maybe it gives you a better resolution
[05:57] <yellowdart> m_billybob, sorry.. just flipped over to xchat and that caught my eye..no worries
[05:58] <wasabi_> Fedge: vista says what?
[05:58] <YoshiG3> Hey ubuntu guys, I would just like to say that the more I use ubuntu and become familiar with it, the more I like it
[05:58] <m_billybob> none here either :)
[05:58] <YoshiG3> so much more sexy than windows
[05:58] <YoshiG3> wasabi_: lol
[05:58] <slickguy> LinuxMint = my new Ubuntu :p
[05:59] <cables> NetworkManager doesn't connect to my wireless network automatically any more when I start the computer... I have to select it from the list. Any ideas?
[05:59] <zak__> YoshiG3: roadkill is more sexy than windows.
[05:59] <Fedge> wasabi_: "Windows is unable to find a system volume that meets its criteria for installation"
[05:59] <YoshiG3> zak__, lol
[05:59] <m_billybob> wasabi_: yeah, some people actualy use both  ;)
[05:59] <wasabi_> m_billybob: what?
[05:59] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, what ever is going on its with the xserver
[05:59] <m_billybob> windows AND linux
[05:59] <YoshiG3> Is there any way to get more color themes for GNOME? the ubuntu type themes
[05:59] <wasabi_> Fedge: Might try installing vista first. ;)
[05:59] <Fedge> wasabi_: the 50GB NTFS partition i set up is unsatisfactory
[06:00] <Fedge> wasabi_: yeah, i tried that too, and grub corrupted the vista install
[06:00] <wasabi_> Fedge: Oh, what partition is it?
[06:00] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, its a Nvidia card
[06:00] <jaydub> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[06:00] <wasabi_> First one?
[06:00] <Fedge> yeah
[06:00] <jaydub> any one know why?
[06:00] <wasabi_> Hmm.
[06:00] <m_billybob> Fedge: there is a howto floating around on the net, on how to do that
[06:00] <zak__> YoshiG3: there are a lot of themes on art.gnome.org [i think that's it]  - im sure there are some simple colour variations there
[06:00] <m_billybob> dont ask me where, just somethign i ran into like a week ago
[06:00] <Fedge> i've looked at a few, but none address this issue
[06:00] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: ah. no idea about Nvidia card since i use ATI
[06:00] <cables> YoshiG3, try gnome-look.org
[06:01] <wasabi_> Fedge: I'm probably not going to be able to help. Only used Vista on a VM.
[06:01] <YoshiG3> Thanks :D
[06:01] <Fedge> m_billybob: i've looked around, but none cover this problem, maybe you could point me closer
[06:01] <m_billybob> Fedge: the one i was reading specifically said somethign about modifying the boot.ini file
[06:01] <Fedge> wasabi_: no worries, it's not crucial, i'd just like to mess around with both
[06:01] <cris> i need help with beryl
[06:01] <cris> plz
[06:01] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: however, did you use 'nv' in xorg.conf? can you pastebin it?
[06:01] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, yea me nither :( i use ati on my main computer
[06:01] <cables> !beryl | cris
[06:01] <ubotu> cris: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:01] <Fedge> m_billybob: i'll look around, if you remember where you found it, keep me posted
[06:02] <Hmmmm> guys, how do i configure dns on my ubuntu box?
[06:02] <m_billybob> See Sabayon while your at it (beryl) ;)
[06:02] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, its on a laptop and i am in a command prompt so no pasting
[06:02] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: dns server?
[06:02] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, yup
[06:02] <wasabi_> install and configure bind9
[06:02] <cris> i have a problem with it
[06:02] <cables> kazukisan, ctrl-alt-v to paste in command prompt
[06:02] <cris> its so unestable
[06:02] <cables> !beryl | cris
[06:02] <ubotu> cris: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:03] <m_billybob> Fedge: honestly im an info junkie concernign tech,, but it most likely had somethign to do with edgy somehow
[06:03] <cables> cris, go to #ubuntu-effects for beryl help
[06:03] <cris> oh i see, tnxs
[06:03] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, how do i condifure it? i tried and it didn't work
[06:04] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Question ending with "it didn't work" are not answerable.
[06:04] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DNSServerBind didn't work
[06:04] <wasabi_> What "didn't work?"
[06:04] <wasabi_> Explain what isn't working.
[06:04] <cris_> sorry, but what was the addres fo beryl?
[06:04] <cris_> irc
[06:04] <IcemanV9> is it possible to use beryl/compiz from edgy livecd? i just want to see if it works or not.
[06:05] <cables> cris_, #ubuntu-effects
[06:05] <cables> IcemanV9, Sabayon is a good beryl livecd
[06:05] <m_billybob> :P
[06:05] <cables> ha
[06:05] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, well i followed the guide. and now i cant use server.goa.com to see my server from other clients
[06:05] <m_billybob> to be honest, it looks VERY good
[06:06] <YoshiG3> IcemanV9, there's quite a few good live CD's that have XGL and Beryl and whatnot
[06:06] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Do you have any comprehension on how DNS works?
[06:06] <cables> it looks great... but the default minimize and maximize need to be toned down.
[06:06] <IcemanV9> guess edgy livecd couldn't do it. :/
[06:06] <wasabi_> You're going to need that.
[06:06] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, not quite. shud read up on it at wikipedia i guess
[06:06] <wasabi_> Uh huh.
[06:06] <m_billybob> cables: looks too much like VIsta ?
[06:06] <wasabi_> Are your glue records in place?
[06:06] <wasabi_> I see 193.252.118.130 and 193.252.122.34
[06:06] <HangTheDJ> hey everyone, i just installed ubuntu on a comp in my house but it wont recognize my wifi card... its a desk top, any suggestion?
[06:07] <cables> m_billybob, no... it's just obnoxious. It's even worse than OS X's genie effect
[06:07] <gerald> how do I restart X
[06:07] <cables> !wifi | HangTheDJ, many wireless cards have driver issues with linux.
[06:07] <ubotu> HangTheDJ, many wireless cards have driver issues with linux.: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:07] <wasabi_> gerald: Log out and press cltr-alt-backspace.
[06:07] <zak__> gerald: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE [not delete] 
[06:07] <scabootssca> ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:07] <wasabi_> Good as way as any. ;)
[06:07] <m_billybob> cables: ah, i havent tried it yet, its in prgress now (downloading) been reading baout it for a couple opf days though
[06:08] <m_billybob> screenshots ive seen look really good
[06:08] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, im setting up dns for a local machine
[06:08] <scabootssca> hey is there a way to change the permissions on every file and directory in a folder ?
[06:08] <scabootssca> at once
[06:08] <cables> m_billybob, it's really cool... make sure you run beryl-manager to get the beryl options though
[06:08] <Hmmmm> it's not over the web
[06:08] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Then what is goa.com?
[06:08] <m_billybob> and from what ive read, the LiveCD install is just as easy as Edgy's
[06:08] <HangTheDJ> yo thanks for the help
[06:08] <FantasticFoo> i'm trying to compile and install a program that crashes with gtk+ version 2.8 and higher. so i compiled gtk+ 2.6 and installed it in /usr/local, now how do i tell the program i'm trying to compile to use my older gtk in /usr/local instead of my newer gtk in /usr ?
[06:08] <cables> m_billybob, I didn't install it... just ran from live.
[06:08] <aidanr> scabootssca, chmod -R, -R means recursive
[06:08] <m_billybob> and i must say Edgy's liveCD install, is bliss
[06:08] <scabootssca> cool thanks
[06:09] <YoshiG3> Where do I go to change my icon sets?
[06:09] <TravisivarT> hey, i'm not new to ubuntu but I just installed edgy on my friend's computer and it automatically found and added his ntfs partition, it seems i even have read access, how can i get write access easily?  should i use ntfs-3g or is there another option?
[06:09] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, goa.com how i want to access my local server
[06:09] <cables> Does anyone know where NetworkManager sticks its configuration? I need to reset it 'cause it's acting screwy.
[06:09] <Hmmmm> i can call it something else if needed
[06:09] <HangTheDJ> and does anyone know if beryl will run with an nvidia card on ubuntu... i just dont feel like useing fedora 6 and the knoppix 5.1 dvd with beryl wont recognize nvidia
[06:09] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: I don't follow, goa.com is a real domain.
[06:10] <zak__> how do i add commands to start when i log in with gdm/gnome? like, .bashrc - but that's executed in gnome startup [to set desktop-wide environment variables] 
[06:10] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, have you tried using wine with it? I've found that if you use wine to extract things, it won't work on a ex3 partition
[06:10] <m_billybob> well IF you are concerned about your data that is
[06:10] <YoshiG3> or whatever the partition is called lol
[06:10] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, so i need to pick something that doesnt exist on the web, is it?
[06:10] <cables> zak__, go to System>Preferences>Sessions and go to the Startup tab
[06:10] <YoshiG3> Where do I go to change my icon sets?
[06:10] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: That would certainly make it easier. ;) Pick foo.local or something.
[06:10] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, hah, that was actually exactly what i was doing, i ran WOW off of his ntfs partition, so i don't have write access?
[06:10] <Hmmmm> ah okay, wasabi_
[06:10] <spike723_> anyone know how I can get a program that that it can use the root window in ubuntu?
[06:10] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: The thing is each level has to point to the next.
[06:11] <wasabi_> To find goa.com, the clients talk to the server, which finds the server for .com.
[06:11] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, Well I would imagine that WOW writes
[06:11] <wasabi_> And looks up the records for goa.com, and then goes and talks to that server.
[06:11] <zak__> cables: thanks... can i just run .bashrc from that - or will that screw anything up?
[06:11] <cables> spike723_, root window? You mean root terminal? run sudo -i for that
[06:11] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, i see
[06:11] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, So you should be able to get a file browser and things like that for wine and do things
[06:11] <cables> zak__, no idea... try it.
[06:11] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, so would i haha, so what's the "best" way to get write support?
[06:11] <YoshiG3> !icons
[06:11] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: And unless the clients talk specifically to your server, they'll go find goa.com someplace else.
[06:11] <Hmmmm> so i should prolly try with goa.local
[06:11] <zak__> cables: will do, thanks
[06:11] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, Well I'm kinda new, but what exactly are you trying to write?
[06:11] <wasabi_> They will need to talk to your server anyways, but masking out some legitimate TLD is wrong.
[06:11] <XiCillin> i have a UPS and ubuntu autodetected it! and the power manegement is using it
[06:11] <XiCillin> awesomee
[06:12] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: And all the clients need to have their local DNS configured to point to your new DNS server.
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> anyone on the beryl question i asked?
[06:12] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, well i'd need write support to run most things off of the ntfs partition wouldn't i?
[06:12] <Hmmmm> wasabi_,  can i call my server server.goa ?
[06:12] <aidanr> YoshiG3, gnome-theme-manager
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> l
[06:12] <cables> !beryl | HangTheDj, this isn't the place for beryl questions.
[06:12] <wasabi_> TravisivarT: What do you play to "run" off the NTFS partition?
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> and does anyone know if beryl will run with an nvidia card on ubuntu... i just dont feel like useing fedora 6 and the knoppix 5.1 dvd with beryl wont recognize nvidia
[06:12] <XiCillin> Ubuntu should have better gamepad support
[06:12] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: You can. .local is better. It's pretty much recognized as "for this stuff"
[06:12] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, I think you do have write support if you can run wow FROM the NTFS partition
[06:12] <HangTheDJ> oh sorry
[06:12] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, okay
[06:12] <m_billybob> from what ive read, NTFS writting, under linux,  you need the file you're writting to , to be in existance already, and the file size needs to stay the same size
[06:12] <cables> HangTheDJ, go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:13] <wasabi_> m_billybob: ntfs-3g has full read/write support.
[06:13] <wasabi_> ANd it works pretty good.
[06:13] <cables> ubotu appears to be down...
[06:13] <m_billybob> wasabi_: thats heartening
[06:13] <TravisivarT> YoshiG3, well i didn't do too much, i just launched the launcher, that's about it
[06:13] <HangTheDJ> cables: do you know of a # that would anwer beryl questions?
[06:13] <cables> Is it just me or is Ubotu down?
[06:13] <m_billybob> wasabi_: the part that bothers me, is the 'works *pretty* good' part
[06:13] <cables> HangTheDJ, like I said, #ubuntu-effects
[06:13] <TravisivarT> wasabi_, is ntfs-3g the way to go? i was pretty sure there was an alternative, any preference between the two?
[06:13] <HangTheDJ> thanks
[06:14] <YoshiG3> TravisivarT, yeah, and I'm sure the patcher has to do it's things, as well as whatever else WoW saves to the HD(I know it saves things, I forget what it is)
[06:14] <wasabi_> m_billybob: Well, if you can find a known bug, then point it out. But it's pretty clean at this point.
[06:14] <m_billybob> wasabi_: if it worked 100% , i wouldnt have a problem with it at all
[06:14] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, so i should go throug hthe same tutorial using local, eh?
[06:14] <wasabi_> TravisivarT: The alternative is the ... captiventfs driver I believe. It runs NTFS.SYS
[06:14] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Yeah, also, the clients have to point to the server, and use 'dig' to test.
[06:14] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, wokay sir. thanks a ton
[06:14] <Hmmmm> wasabi_,  will check and revert
[06:14] <spike723_> cables: I mean the desktop root?
[06:15] <spike723_> like if you run xphoon or xsnow
[06:15] <spike723_> it replaces the desktop with that program
[06:15] <cables> spike723_, no idea... sorry
[06:15] <TravisivarT> wasabi_, so ntfs-3g is the way to go then?
[06:15] <m_billybob> wasabi_: its not that i like to be a nay sayer, just that my data usually is pretty important to me, id really hate to lern the hard way
[06:16] <wasabi_> m_billybob: Sure... but at some point you need to get over it. ;)
[06:16] <Bakefy> do I have to enable something to use an FTP client?
[06:16] <Bakefy> I cant connect to shit
[06:16] <bean-oh> Bakefy, you shouldn't need to
[06:16] <tvgm2> I've never had a problem with NTFS-3G, just mounting them.
[06:17] <Bakefy> hmmm, it must be my xbox only allowing flashfxp
[06:17] <Bakefy> thanks
[06:17] <axisys> !tell about kvm
[06:18] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, Now the live CD is doing the same thing ....
[06:18] <axisys> !kvm
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <m_billybob> sounds like someones hardware is actuing up.
[06:18] <TravisivarT> m_billybob: #gamedev?
[06:18] <m_billybob> acting up*
[06:19] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: like the screen is dying? ;)
[06:19] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: what about it ?
[06:19] <TravisivarT> << Ademan :-)
[06:19] <m_billybob> heya
[06:19] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, only does it on boot up splash screen looks perfect and everything like text and stuff does too
[06:20] <m_billybob> ademan: yeah, i hardly pay attention in there any more, seems to have gone downhill somewhat, in the last couple of years
[06:20] <HangTheDJ> does anyone know a # for knoppix users?
[06:20] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, if i dont boot in recovery mode but disable splash and quiet mode it still freezes up just in the text mode
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> How do I get DHCP working
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> ??
[06:20] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, yeah i just kinda lurk there
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> I have the /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf file configured
[06:20] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: noapci ?
[06:20] <DigitalNinja> However, dhcp won't start
[06:21] <m_billybob> DigitalNinja: DHCP HOW ? DHCPD or just DHCP connection ?
[06:21] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, im trying to boot again with splash and quiet disabled, right now its just sitting on ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0]  bus is 0   and not doing anything from tthere
[06:21] <DigitalNinja> DHCPD
[06:21] <unop> DigitalNinja,  what happens when you try and start the server?
[06:21] <m_billybob> err sorry about caps
[06:21] <DigitalNinja> dhcp3-server
[06:21] <DigitalNinja> unop: it syas "fail"
[06:22] <m_billybob> DigitalNinja: first of all, do you already have a DHCP server on your netork ?
[06:22] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: includes "noapci" for boot option
[06:22] <m_billybob> network*
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> m_billybob: Yes and no
[06:22] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, okay trying
[06:22] <unop> m_billybob,  that shouldnt make a difference
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> I'm build an LTSP server
[06:22] <m_billybob> it can
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> It's got two network cards
[06:22] <DigitalNinja> I want thin clients on another subnet
[06:23] <DigitalNinja> It should work
[06:23] <caturOK> i have one ethernet with virtual alias
[06:23] <TravisivarT> !ntfs-3g
[06:23] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:23] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, APCI or ACPI ?
[06:23] <caturOK> and use shorewall
[06:23] <DigitalNinja> I've done this before but every time I do a new one I have trouble with DHCP
[06:23] <caturOK> but
[06:23] <caturOK> why
[06:23] <unop> m_billybob,  multiple dhcp servers can coexist quite well - just as long as they are able to ping the addresses they lease out first
[06:23] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: acpi
[06:23] <unop> DigitalNinja,  I'm afraid we'll need an exact error message to work on -- "fail" just wont do
[06:23] <DigitalNinja> unop: that's all I get
[06:24] <caturOK> interfaces eth0:0 not detect on my shorewall
[06:24] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, Still froze in same spot when adding noacpi
[06:24] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, hi, i have gone throug hthe guide again
[06:24] <nrot> hi all, i had a question, i have been looking for hours on the subject, but i cant find a clear cut guide to setting up ubuntu sysklog or syslog-ng to work with my dd-wrt firmware flashed wrt54g
[06:24] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, i have one question
[06:24] <wasabi_> ?
[06:24] <DigitalNinja> unop: * Starting DHCP server:                                                 [fail] 
[06:24] <DigitalNinja> unop
[06:24] <TravisivarT> wasabi_: ubotu tells me that to install ntfs-3g you need to add a bunch of repos, but it seems to be in the main repos, is it just a newer version in those repos?
[06:24] <DigitalNinja> unop: hold on
[06:24] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, on the client machines, shoudl i remove the original isp's dns server from resolv.conf?
[06:25] <unop> DigitalNinja, right, check syslog for any messages dumped there -- usually /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg
[06:25] <slyfox> Can anyone help - I cannot Log in to Console, Ctrl+alt+F1 only gives me a black screen
[06:25] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, or should i just add the local along with them?
[06:25] <m_billybob> DigitalNinja: i assume you've already checked to make sure it wasnt already running ?
[06:25] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: i dunno what else to say .. i used noacpi option on HP laptop with Duron and it worked.
[06:25] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Remove the original.
[06:25] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: Otherwise the ISP's servers will respond with NXDOMAIN; no domain exists.
[06:26] <sivik> how do i recompile a .deb package to work in edgy, the latest one is only for dapper
[06:26] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, but then how will i access the web from the client machines?
[06:26] <FantasticFoo> what version of python does ubuntu use?
[06:26] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, actually tried again and it went past that part this time
[06:26] <mindstate> wassup everyone
[06:26] <Asc__> 2.4 I think
[06:26] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, i use the client machines from home and office
[06:26] <DigitalNinja> unop: I love setting up "all.log"
[06:26] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, but it still does that screen dieing thing lol
[06:27] <unop> DigitalNinja,  heh, what a nightmare it must be weeding through all that is dumped there? :)
[06:27] <Asc__> FantasticFoo: Yes, it uses 2.4 by default.
[06:27] <DigitalNinja> unop: Here's what I got in all.log: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[06:27] <quaal> could anyone help with mounting a raid-0 partition ?
[06:27] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: what about this one --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, in the terminal.
[06:27] <unop> sivik,  the package should work on edgy too
[06:27] <quaal> not having much luck finding support on the issue
[06:28] <wasabi_> Hmmmm: You will need to configure your DNS server to forward to upstream DNS servers.
[06:28] <DigitalNinja> unop: I grep it for things. It beats not haveing a log of what happend.
[06:28] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, i tried that, i even tried changing rez and changing to the nv driver
[06:28] <Hmmmm> wasabi_, okay
[06:28] <sivik> unop: ok
[06:28] <m_billybob> quaal: elaborate
[06:28] <DigitalNinja> unop: How do I tell dhcp what interface to listen to
[06:28] <nixnub> hello
[06:28] <sivik> unop: its a gaim plugin, xfire
[06:29] <quaal> m_billybob, well.. this is the guide i've tried to use http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557
[06:29] <linuxor>  HOW DO I START AND STOP INTERNET BY COMMAND-LINES?
[06:29] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: what about horizsync & vertrefresh ?
[06:29] <m_billybob> quaal: tell me your problems
[06:29] <quaal> my post is the last in the thread stating my problem.. cannot find anything in /dev/mapper
[06:29] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, yep
[06:29] <unop> DigitalNinja, well, it should listen on all interfaces -- but it needs to provide addresses for specific subnets -- i suspect that you have some sort of error in your dhcpd.conf
[06:29] <IcemanV9> !shout | linuxor
[06:29] <ubotu> linuxor: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:29] <quaal> m_billybob, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2115877&postcount=38
[06:30] <nixnub> can anyone help me with mounting windows drives...I have tried using guides but i must have gone wrong somewhere
[06:30] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: ha. dunno any more. :/
[06:30] <linuxor> sorry
[06:30] <unop> linuxor,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:30] <m_billybob> quaal: be patient, im seriously downloading atm :)
[06:30] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, im gona try and upgrade from command prompt see if that fix's anything
[06:30] <buchan> But internet != network :O
[06:30] <quaal> m_billybob, any help is greatly appreciated. i am stumped.
[06:30] <kazukisan> IcemanV9, Thanks for trying to help :D
[06:30] <DigitalNinja> unop: I'll check
[06:30] <linuxor> unop yhx
[06:30] <IcemanV9> kazukisan: hope it works!
[06:30] <slyfox> Can anyone help - I cannot Log in to Console, Ctrl+alt+F1 only gives me a black screen
[06:31] <unop> DigitalNinja,  pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and dhcpd.conf  -- i'll have a look
[06:31] <m_billybob> quaal: fake raid, or MD raid ?
[06:31] <m_billybob> fake raid being  onboard RAID
[06:31] <quaal> m_billybob, i'm not too sure
[06:31] <quaal> its the Sil3112a chipset
[06:31] <DigitalNinja> unop: I'm not sure how to past them. Do you want me to do it in this channel?
[06:31] <quaal> comes on the Abit NF7-S motherboard
[06:31] <m_billybob> quaal: well MD raid would be linux software raid
[06:31] <quaal> m_billybob, hmm
[06:32] <unop> buchan,  if the internet is not a network (or an internetwork), what is it? :)
[06:32] <m_billybob> yeah quaal, i actuall have dapper + edgy on a ABIT NF7-S2G
[06:32] <m_billybob> it wont be recconised in hardware, you'd have to set it up in linux software
[06:32] <unop> DigitalNinja,  post to http://pastebin.ca and give us the URL you are given there
[06:32] <quaal> m_billybob, and you can mount a raid-0 partition with no problem ?
[06:32] <quaal> m_billybob, i am trying to mount an ntfs partition
[06:32] <quaal> not install ubuntu on it
[06:32] <m_billybob> quaal: software RAID, yes, onboard hardware raid, no
[06:32] <m_billybob> ah
[06:32] <sivik> how do i get the xfire plugin to work for gaim?
[06:33] <m_billybob> thats a big problem
[06:33] <quaal> m_billybob, i dont mind which, i just want to access the ntfs drive contents
[06:33] <DigitalNinja> unop: give me 2 seconds
[06:33] <quaal> m_billybob, as stated in my post, i also have a standalone sil3112a pci card, running 1 SATA drive, which i have mounted and am using fine
[06:33] <m_billybob> quaal: well if you can find driver modules, you MAY beable to get it to work, however, i never tried as MD raid is much faster than most fake raid anyhow
[06:33] <quaal> m_billybob, so it appears to be an issue with the raid array
[06:33] <davin> How do I chown all sub-directories in a folder?
[06:33] <davin> i.e. /home/davin/Pics/*
[06:33] <unop> davin,  use the -R flag to chown
[06:34] <nixnub> can anyone help me with mounting a windows drive?
[06:34] <davin> unop thanks!
[06:34] <quaal> m_billybob, i remember getting it mounted fine in mandrake..
[06:34] <quaal> m_billybob, my fstab is posted in the thread also. not sure if that helps
[06:34] <m_billybob> quaal: you followed that tutorial exactly ?
[06:34] <quaal> to the T
[06:34] <unop> davin, i dont know why you didnt refer to the man/help pages -- man chown and chown --help .. they both list it
[06:35] <DigitalNinja> unop: here it is http://pastebin.ca/345031
[06:35] <high-freq> i did a apt-get dist-upgrade  and now sound doesn't work.  any suggestions?
[06:35] <m_billybob> quaal: what does 'fdisk -l' say ?
[06:35] <sivik> has anyone used the gaim plugin xfire?
[06:35] <phiqtion> why can't i select 1280x1024 for my screen resolution? my monitor supports it just fine. maybe it was because i installed Ubuntu in safe graphics mode? any thoughts?
[06:35] <m_billybob> thats L lower case
[06:35] <quaal> m_billybob, thats what i have in my post... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2115877&postcount=38
[06:35] <Flannel> !fixres | phiqtion
[06:35] <ubotu> phiqtion: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:36] <DigitalNinja> high-freq: That's for upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu/Debian. What version did you start with?
[06:36] <high-freq> was dapper
[06:36] <high-freq> to edgy
[06:36] <high-freq> now on 6.10
[06:36] <DigitalNinja> Upgrades don't always work
[06:36] <nixnub> Anybody feel like helping a newbie?
[06:36] <high-freq> ya
[06:36] <high-freq> guess this one did it ;(
[06:36] <high-freq> worked on the laptop just fine..hehe
[06:37] <m_billybob> quaal: if what im seeing there is correct, it looks as though its already setup
[06:37] <yellowdart> linuxor, did AIGLX work?
[06:37] <peanutb> high-freq, consider yourself very lucky
[06:37] <m_billybob> '/dev/sdc1'
[06:37] <high-freq> is there a fix for it yet?
[06:37] <quaal> m_billybob, /dev/sdb is one of the drives, /dev/sdc is the other drive
[06:37] <quaal> those are the 2 in the raid-0 array
[06:37] <quaal> both the same size
[06:38] <peanutb> high-freq, did you try reconfiguring alsa?
[06:38] <m_billybob> wuaal read the code you linked me to
[06:38] <m_billybob>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:38] <DigitalNinja> unop: Did you see my post?
[06:38] <m_billybob> ./dev/sdc1   *           1       39858   320159353+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:38] <high-freq> peanutb: only alsa commands i have is alsactl and alsamixer now
[06:38] <Flannel> !anyone | nixnub
[06:38] <ubotu> nixnub: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:38] <quaal> m_billybob, so you're saying just mount sdc1 ?
[06:39] <m_billybob> quaal: i could be wrong, but that looks like a 320 GB partition to me on sdc1
[06:39] <m_billybob> or 2x 160
[06:39] <quaal> you're totally right
[06:39] <quaal> m_billybob, why did i not see this before ?
[06:39] <m_billybob> fristration ?
[06:39] <quaal> m_billybob, 1 sec, attempting mount
[06:39] <m_billybob> frustration*
[06:39] <TravisivarT> !sound
[06:39] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:39] <nixnub> ubotu, i did ask the first 2 times...anyway i am looking for help mounting a windows drive...tried the tutorial but its still not working corectly
[06:40] <cables> mixnub, ubotu is a bot
[06:40] <Flannel> nixnub: what problems you having?
[06:40] <m_billybob> quaal: you've actuall gotten further with onbaord raid than I have, however, my onbaord RAID is NV raid :/
[06:40] <cables> nixnub, ubotu is a bot
[06:40] <phiqtion> how can i make changes to DNS servers PERMANENT???
[06:40] <peanutb> high-freq, id try reinstalling alsa-base
[06:40] <high-freq> did ;(
[06:40] <unop> DigitalNinja,  yep -- can't seem to find anything that might be wrong -- what i would do now is backup this copy and start again by including only very basic directives e.g. ranges, lease times, routers, etc
[06:40] <quaal> m_billybob, ah.. you say you had the NF7-Sversion 2 ?
[06:40] <phiqtion> !xserver
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <nixnub> lol ok...i tried mounting using the tutorials but its still not showing up and when i go to the folder through the browser it says unreadable in the prperties
[06:41] <m_billybob> NF7-S2G, no sil3112, but has GbE
[06:41] <noodles12> i got vmware running and see the computer starting up and i can choose windows for the boot from grub. But then the screen turns black, adn then gets bigger as if it is done loading but stays black. I believe Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":1.0". is the problem. any suggestions and getting my display to work in vmware?
[06:41] <PCGenie> bye all
[06:41] <DigitalNinja> unop: Well, now I know there aren't any issues with the dhcpd.conf file.
[06:41] <Flannel> nixnub: which tutorial(s)?
[06:41] <unop> phiqtion, why dont they stick  now?
[06:41] <m_billybob> quaal: how'd the mount go ?
[06:41] <DigitalNinja> unop: Thansk for look at it. Now I can check other parts of the system.
[06:41] <phiqtion> unop: what do you mean?
[06:41] <nixnub> it was in the ubuntu forums
[06:41] <quaal> m_billybob, getting sidetracked.. trying to find my fstab
[06:42] <quaal> where the hell is it again
[06:42] <quaal> i thought /etc/fstab
[06:42] <Flannel> !ntfs | nixnub, try this one
[06:42] <ubotu> nixnub, try this one: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:42] <m_billybob> quaal
[06:42] <Fedge> Is there a way to install ubuntu desktop from the edgy cd without installing grub?
[06:42] <m_billybob> quall: quick test, mkdir /home/test | mount /dev/sdc1 /home/test
[06:42] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[06:42] <unop> DigitalNinja,  well, i didnt say that  -- i said i cant find anything just by a quick glance -- but you seem to have a few directives that are potential problems, like the filename and root-path directives
[06:42] <Flannel> Fedge: yeah, you can choose to install without a bootloader.
[06:42] <m_billybob> quaal: then just cd /home/test
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> unop: Those are for LTSP
[06:43] <m_billybob> ls whatever, but i wouldnt write to it
[06:43] <Fedge> flannel: i don't remember ever seeing that option, where do I do so?
[06:43] <unop> DigitalNinja,  it's better to ensure that the very basic directives work before adding on the ones for other services
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> unop: Ture
[06:43] <Flannel> Fedge: you have the Desktop CD or the alternate one?
[06:43] <DigitalNinja> True
[06:43] <Fedge> Flannel: desktop
[06:43] <m_billybob> quaal: that would be /etc/fstab btw :)
[06:44] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[06:44] <peanutb> high-freq, hmm i cant find anything, at what point does it fail?
[06:45] <unop> phiqtion,  you said "changes to DNS servers" werent permananent, i was trying to find out what about them changed and how/when?
[06:45] <high-freq> seems like...hmm hold on sec
[06:45] <nrot> so no one has any experience with syslog and a wrt54g router that could help me?
[06:45] <phiqtion> unop: i want to select what DNS servers mi ip connects to, but the changes are temporary in the session, unpon reboot, they are gone and i have to select them again
[06:45] <nixnub> that tutorial isnt working for me either
[06:45] <Flannel> Fedge: something liek this: http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pid=755&fullsize=1  and then you click (on that image) the hd0 and it'll ask.  Or at least, that's how I believe it works.
[06:46] <high-freq> peanutb: looks like alsalib prob
[06:46] <unop> phiqtion,  you mean the settings in /etc/resolv.conf?
[06:46] <unop> nrot,  whats the issue?
[06:46] <phiqtion> unop: no, SYSTEM - ADMINISTRATION - NETWORKING - DNS
[06:46] <newbieme> hello everyone! what application that caters divX video or simply a dvd video?
[06:46] <Fedge> flannel: ooh you're right! i forgot that step.  thanks very much
[06:46] <Flannel> nixnub: "doesn't work" doesn't tell us a whole lot, does it give you specific errors? or what?
[06:46] <nrot> i cant figure out where its saving the log file to, my /var/syslog is just system stuff, nothing from my actual router
[06:47] <TravisivarT> I can't get my Intel 82801G onboard sound to work, any suggestsions?  Do i have to recompile ALL of alsa?
[06:47] <xerroz> anyone have luck getting radeon dri to work?
[06:47] <unop> phiqtion,  i believe they are settings pulled from /etc/resolv.conf  -- what happens when you try to remove the resolvconf package?
[06:47] <gerald> can anyoone help me with dualhead?
[06:47] <phiqtion> unop: nevermind, forgot to save as profile
[06:47] <gerald> i'm reallyc lose
[06:47] <m_billybob> Ademan: you did a debian-reconfigure and tried the sound configure stuff ?
[06:47] <beoba> http://goat.se/cx/ surprisingly safe for work
[06:48] <caturOK> how about my ques
[06:48] <quaal> ha
[06:48] <caturOK> help me plz
[06:48] <nixnub> the tutorial says to get diskmounter, so i do the wget....  but when i try 'sudo bash diskmounter'  it says "no such file or directory"
[06:48] <m_billybob> quaal: works i take it ?
[06:48] <unop> nrot,  errm, i assume you have configured the router to use this syslog server?
[06:48] <joe___> hey there, im new to linux in general and have just installed ubuntu, though ive noticed ubuntu seems to lag a bit, overlapping of text, and 'jaggednis', ive used the partition tool so ive also got windows xp,  how can i possibly speed ubuntu up? ive got 1gig of ram
[06:48] <phiqtion> any info on beryl?
[06:48] <jstarcher> Does anyone know what this means? "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8774, but this client has the version 1.0-8776.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."
[06:48] <aalhamad> how can i know the speed of my dsl with a command line??
[06:48] <nrot> yep, i am using dd-wrt firmware, and i can see Firestarter blocking the packets, but i set my router to be accepted, but im not sure where to go after that
[06:48] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: tried debian-reconfigure, and reconfigure the sound part
[06:48] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, nope, can i avoid doing a huge reconfigure and just do sound?  debian-reconfigure alsa or something?
[06:49] <enat> hi, i'm trying to use a pub/private key combo for ssh'ing into boxes at work, but when i try to ssh in .. it asks for the identity passphrase
[06:49] <enat> which i don't know
[06:49] <m_billybob> try*
[06:49] <davin> Sometimes my monitor goes idle (signal-less) and the audio stops, but my PC stays on all of a sudden (like 30 mins after boot up) but it does not happen every time, any explanation? im on Dapper x86
[06:49] <enat> when i was at work it didn't ask for it (using securecrt on windows)
[06:49] <enat> any ideas?
[06:49] <unop> nrot,  if your router has a log file -- it's likely those very same messages in the log were also sent to syslog -- if i were you, i'd take a few keywords from the log and grep all the files in the /var/log directory
[06:49] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: im not sure what you've done, but it is possible, yes
[06:49] <joe___> can anyone give me a good link to desktop themes for ubuntu?
[06:49] <high-freq> peanutb: hey i'm outty...i need sleep....i'll figure it out tomorrow...thx for help tho bud...
[06:49] <nrot> how do i grep an entire dir for a keyword?
[06:49] <sear_yoda> i'm wondering if it's possible to run a copy of windows installed to another partition from a VM within linux...know if this is possible?
[06:49] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: cant really hurt to try
[06:50] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: just dont touch the other options
[06:50] <enat> joe___: www.gnome-look.org ?
[06:50] <unop> nrot,  sudo grep -inHR 'keywords' /var/log/*
[06:50] <nrot> sear_yoda, yes it is, it was just on digg.com
[06:50] <sear_yoda> fancy that
[06:50] <davin> like I was just running Listen Media Manager, Gaim and Firefox and all of a sudden a black screen [signal-less]  and no sound, but PC stays on
[06:50] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, what command would i run exactly?  dpkg-reconfigure wants an exact package, and alsa-base doesn't have anything to configure apparently
[06:50] <quaal> m_billybob, http://pastebin.ca/345035
[06:51] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: 'debian-reconfigure'
[06:51] <aalhamad> PLzzz help --------- how can  i know the speed of my ADSL ? with a command line ?
[06:51] <enat> anybody know what ssh is asking for the identity passphrase when securecrt on windows didn't?
[06:51] <enat> helo? heh
[06:51] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, says it doesn't exist
[06:51] <enat> s/what/shy
[06:51] <enat> s/shy/why
[06:51] <enat> :/
[06:51] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: apt-cache search debian-reconfigure
[06:51] <nrot> /var/log/syslog:228:Feb  1 22:35:50 Torn-WRT kernel: klogd started: DD-WRT VeryBusyBox v1.2.1 (2006.09.15-18:40+0000) is all i can find of my router, and thats from a week ago
[06:52] <jay> If I blacklist fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted.... and cp /lib/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/volate I get dri working. BUT the .ko is always deleted on reboot
[06:52] <m_billybob> quaal: ok, thats a FS error, you need to do a mount -t <fstype> /dev/sdc1 /mountpoint
[06:52] <m_billybob> quaal: not sure how yo uspecify 'NTFS'
[06:52] <m_billybob> Im not sure
[06:52] <unop> nrot,  well, it's quite likely that the router has not logged anything to syslog since
[06:53] <gerald> can anyone help me with dualhead.  I got the 2nd screen to work, but i can only get my mouse to move at the edge of the 2nd monitor
[06:53] <m_billybob> quaal: however, man mount will tell you
[06:53] <quaal> m_billybob, it is ntfs in fstab. when i did your test command i get mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[06:53] <gerald> and both my monitors do not have identical resolutions
[06:53] <cris> hindi?
[06:53] <quaal> i'll just try to copy my current fstabs
[06:53] <reach> if you wanner ntfs ,recompiler the kernel or download the module patch
[06:53] <joe___> hey i downloaded the glass icon theme for ubuntu, and tried to intstall it with the theme, but its not working?
[06:54] <quaal> reach, what.
[06:54] <m_billybob> quaal: you need to do mount -t <insert type for NTFS> /dev/sdc1 / /mounpoint
[06:54] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, turned up nothing
[06:54] <quaal> m_billybob, NTFS = ntfs
[06:54] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: Edgy or dapper ?
[06:54] <quaal> m_billybob, /dev/sda1	/mnt/winxp	ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[06:54] <aliasgherman> I need help on network booting
[06:54] <sear_yoda> gerald, this may sound dumb, but are you sure the screens aren't set up on the wrong side of each other? try going off the other edge of the screen
[06:54] <m_billybob> quaal: working now ?
[06:54] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, edgy
[06:55] <reach> for ntfs rw ,there are 2 methods ,one to reconfig you kernel ,the other is to download the kernel module patch according to you kernel version
[06:55] <m_billybob> Ademan, give me a minute
[06:55] <Roscar> does anybody here know of a mspaint clone?
[06:55] <unop> nrot, well, from that error message - it looks like the router there just booted up or something -- you could try restarting the router to see if syslog picks anything up
[06:55] <aliasgherman> Is there any utility that can supply the clients with network boot + KDE Desktop
[06:55] <yellowdart> my laptop seems to hang on boot when it's initializing network devices.. this probably has to do with my wifi.. any suggestions on helping it not "stick"
[06:55] <m_billybob> quaal: anyjow, ive never mounted NTFS in linux, so maybe someone else can help you from here
[06:55] <nrot> i should just rm all those logs, and start fresh, so i know where everything is being put at
[06:55] <quaal> ok
[06:55] <m_billybob> as i have zero experrience with that specifically
[06:55] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[06:55] <matheuu> Hi is there anyone out there who could help me fix an error in my  ..apt/source.list file....I seem to have a ...wget... problem  and it is stoping me from downloading from any place
[06:55] <quaal> m_billybob, i appreciate your time
[06:56] <joe___> hey ive just recieved an error "the application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly, what does this mean?
[06:56] <unop> nrot,  dont rm them -- move them elsewhere
[06:56] <m_billybob> quaal: glad to help
[06:56] <m_billybob> Ademan, ok, give me a minute
[06:56] <jay> If I blacklist fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted.... and cp /lib/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/volate I get dri working. BUT the .ko is always deleted on reboot
[06:56] <reach> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/c
[06:56] <reach> just like that
[06:56] <quaal> reach, yea thats what i just tried
[06:56] <m_billybob> isnt that what i just said without the 'ntfs' ?
[06:56] <quaal> maybe it needs the uname=0222 though
[06:56] <quaal> like in the fstab
[06:57] <reach> but does you kernel supports the ntfs file system?
[06:57] <jetsaredim> is it possible to change the dhcp client on my kubuntu edgy install from dhclient to dhcpcd??
[06:57] <unop> jay,  i dont know much about fglrx -- but why dont you just install the appropriate package and do things the normal way?
[06:57] <Roscar> so if you guys want to draw a shitty drawing, do you use the gimp? cause that seems like overkill.
[06:57] <unop> jetsaredim,  dhcpd is not a dhcp client -- its a dhcp server
[06:57] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: internet slow, looking for a link, give me a few
[06:58] <reach> if not ,you should recompile your kernel.
[06:58] <jetsaredim> unop: no not dhcpd - dhcpcd
[06:58] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: you ARE root, or uysing sudo no ?
[06:58] <unop> !language | Roscar
[06:58] <ubotu> Roscar: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:58] <Roscar> ah, sorry, I'm a sailor.
[06:58] <ubuntusucks> ubuntu can't even install itself properly, its so gay!
[06:58] <Roscar> we sail the mighty seas.
[06:58] <quaal> reach, i currently have 3 ntfs drives mounted and working properly.
[06:58] <davin> thanks ubuntusucks, thats really valuable to us </sarcasm>
[06:59] <Roscar> ubuntusucks: language!
[06:59] <quaal> so i think its working
[06:59] <unop> Roscar,  that depends on what's to be drawn -- i use gimp for the odd diagrams -- dia for technical stuff
[06:59] <reach> are you sure they are working well?
[06:59] <quaal> or ntfs is supported
[06:59] <quaal> reach, dont know what you mean by 'well'
[06:59] <quaal> i can read from them
[06:59] <yellowdart> quaal, try ntfs-3g
[06:59] <ubuntusucks> davin: as much as your answer actually
[06:59] <quaal> thats all i need to do
[06:59] <unop> Roscar,  seriously, why the language -- kids and people offended by that sort of language walk in here all the time
[06:59] <Roscar> but nothing on the low level of paint eh? internet searching seems to agree with this.
[06:59] <davin> ubuntusucks #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:59] <jetsaredim> unop: see the difference?
[07:00] <enat> ANYBODY KNOW WHY SSH IS ASKING FOR this private keys passphrase? when it doesn't using securecrt on windows?
[07:00] <enat> :-S
[07:00] <enat> sorry for the initial caps heh
[07:00] <ubuntusucks> so now that i got some attention, is some guru gonna help me out or what
[07:00] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, i sudo when i need it, was there a command i NEEDED to be sudo for?  (apt-cache i was)
[07:00] <MindFreak> How do I go about downgrading from BitTornado 0.3.18 to 0.3.17 ( keep uninstalling it, and it never changes versions)
[07:00] <Roscar> unop: hey, I said one swear word, was corrected, and didn't say another. No big deal.
[07:00] <reach> what's you kernel version?
[07:00] <davin> ubuntusucks not if you change your attitude, your nick and your language
[07:00] <phiqtion> i can't select 1280x1024 from screen resolution but my monitor supports it, any thoughts?
[07:00] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: my bad . . its 'configure-debian'
[07:00] <m_billybob> i rarely use it, so i forgot :/
[07:00] <unop> jetsaredim,  aye -- i should imagine that you remove dhclient and substitute it with dhcpcd
[07:01] <m_billybob> only time i have used it, is on a bootstrap to be honest
[07:01] <enat> phiqtion: most likely isn't in your xorg.conf
[07:01] <davin> ubuntusucks I find it offensive
[07:01] <jzlP> hello, I just mounted to NTFS drives within my ubuntu server via ntfs-3g.  I names of the drives were Media 1 and Media 2.  ntfs-config created the folders within /media/ for me and mounted the drives... I would like to rename the drives to media1 and media2.  but keep getting errors. can someone help?
[07:01] <m_billybob> davin: good
[07:01] <reach> and what are your ntfs drivers ? in my words ,they are just some kernel modules
[07:01] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, thanks
[07:01] <phiqtion> enat: how to enable? with a refresh rate of 85hz
[07:01] <davin> m_billybob: what do you need help with?
[07:01] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: let me know if that works
[07:01] <yellowdart> quaal, you have to apt-get ntfs-3g then put this in your fstab: /dev/hda1       /media/winxp    ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8      0       0
[07:02] <m_billybob> davin: nvm, was thinking you were saying 'ubuntusuck' . . .
[07:02] <enat> add "1280x1024" to modes under depth of 24?
[07:02] <quaal> yellowdart, what does that do for me?
[07:02] <reach> i often support ntfs by recompile the kernel ,then it will work well just by mount the proper ntfs blocks
[07:02] <m_billybob> didnt realize there was a nick in here 'ubuntusucks'
[07:02] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, i'm installing a few packages with synaptic right now i figure configure-debian conflicts with dpkg and apt
[07:02] <quaal> yellowdart, i've read very little about ntfs-3g
[07:02] <LinX>  nah there a  x restat comand
[07:02] <Fedge> flannel: for grub, when you click that little (hd0) button, it ask where you want to install grub. I definitely don't want to install in on the MBR so where else can I specify?
[07:02] <quaal> yellowdart, its the new ntfs support or something right? allows read/write ?
[07:02] <davin> anybody know how to update from firefox 1.5.0.8 to 2.0.0.1 in Dapper?
[07:02] <yellowdart> quaal, that gives you read/write on ntfs
[07:03] <davin> (replacing not installing another one in /home)
[07:03] <enat> (i.e. open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf in your favourite text editor and check to see if near the bottom there's something like what i;
[07:03] <enat> 'm about to paste
[07:03] <jzlP> quaal, yeah ntfs-3g
[07:03] <enat> )
[07:03] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: well PM me here, oor on the other server, let me know how it works
[07:03] <enat> heh
[07:03] <enat>     SubSection     "Display"
[07:03] <enat>         Depth       24
[07:03] <enat>         Modes      "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[07:03] <Jordan_U> reach: the NTFS support built into the kernel is not stable ( writing at least )
[07:03] <Akuma_> davin: better than ubuntusucks? so, any chance to get some help now?
[07:03] <jetsaredim> unop: yea - but there must be something in the config that needs to be changed
[07:03] <enat> @ phiqtion
[07:03] <quaal> yellowdart, from what i remember it is still under development and not very stable. i dont think i want to risk writing to it, i dont really need to.
[07:03] <unop> !paste | enat
[07:03] <ubotu> enat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <davin> Akuma_: ?
[07:03] <MindFreak> How do I go about downgrading from BitTornado 0.3.18 to 0.3.17 ( keep uninstalling it, and it never changes versions)
[07:03] <quaal> yellowdart, thanks though
[07:03] <reach> yellodart, why not compiler the kernel ,and let it support the ntfs rw direct?
[07:03] <phiqtion> enat: what command to open that
[07:03] <gerald> sear_yoda, i tried moving my mouse around
[07:03] <enat> :\ it was three lines , i thought it'd be okay ..
[07:03] <quaal> reach, i'm not very comfortable with compiling a kernel at this point.
[07:03] <gerald> when i move it to the far left, i see the cursor on the edge of the 2nd screen
[07:03] <gerald> but i can' tmove it over
[07:03] <joe___> hey im completely new to linux, ive got ubuntu, how do i install themes?>im in theme preferences now, but dont know where to go from there
[07:03] <Flannel> Fedge: is there not a "nowhere" option?
[07:04] <yellowdart> quaal, i havent had any problems using it thus far.. but i understand your concern
[07:04] <reach> :)
[07:04] <Fedge> flannel: no, it's just a simple text field
[07:04] <enat> phiqtion: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:04] <davin> joe___: look on gnome-look.org, download a .tar.gz and drag them into the theme manangement app
[07:04] <Jordan_U> davin: There is a howto @ wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:04] <Akuma_> davin: i changed my nick now - im showing some respect, good? - now, help please..?
[07:04] <phiqtion> enat: thank you
[07:04] <enat> my pleasure
[07:04] <mikejanssen> hmm. how do i get "My Computer" to show up on my desktop?
[07:04] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:04] <davin> Akuma_: ah sorry I didnt know you where that  my apologies
[07:04] <Fedge> flannel: if I leave it blank, it defaults to /dev/
[07:04] <m_billybob> lol
[07:04] <davin> Akuma_: So how can I help you?
[07:04] <joe___> where is the the theme management app located?
[07:04] <enat> anybody know why ssh is asking for this private identity key's passphrase?
[07:04] <A10n> Hi, I installed the recent version of ubuntu and the bootloader now doesn't have my windows partition in the list. How do i correct this problem with minimum risk
[07:04] <enat> it doesn't when using securecrt on windows
[07:05] <quaal> the only way to reload fstab is to restart X right ?
[07:05] <m_billybob> mikejanssen: boot into windows ?
[07:05] <davin> joe___: top menu: System > Administration > Themes
[07:05] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:05] <mikejanssen> no no
[07:05] <davin> sorry
[07:05] <unop> jetsaredim,  from what i can gather from a quick look at the manpage -- dhcpcd is a dhcp client daemon that configures network interfaces itself, i dont see much configuring (outside of dhcpcd) needed really .. but again, i could be wrong
[07:05] <m_billybob> qual: i think you need to restart period
[07:05] <davin> joe___: System - Preferences - Themes
[07:05] <Jordan_U> A10n: Run: sudo update-grub
[07:05] <Akuma_> davin: i tried installing both ubuntu server and now xubuntu on old hardware, and i keep getting a grub error 15 message
[07:05] <quaal> m_billybob, oh.
[07:05] <quaal> hmm
[07:05] <joe___> cool, ty
[07:05] <Flannel> Fedge: do you have a second harddisk?
[07:05] <mikejanssen> theres some 'hidden preferences' application i can do, and i can see trashcan and my computer icons on desktop
[07:05] <davin> Akuma_ you got windows on it?
[07:05] <Pntkl> hey
[07:05] <Fedge> flannel: no, not at the moment
[07:06] <enat> just a line in /etc/network/interfaces @ jetsaredim
[07:06] <jzlP> what's the command to rename a directory?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> Akuma_: Maybe try LILO, it is available as an option frome the server and alternate install CD's
[07:06] <Pntkl> that's a secret
[07:06] <Akuma_> davin: from google i gather its because grub can't find vmlinuz. i checked the path and its fine though. no, the disk is completly empty
[07:06] <davin> Akuma_: give me some info, 1 hdd, size, IDE/SATA etc
[07:06] <Flannel> Fedge: hmm.  I'm sure there's a way.  You could... I suppose, install /dev/null.  No idea if that'll work.
[07:06] <yellowdart> quaal, if you want to do it the other way (mount your ubuntu partition in windows) you can try this: http://fs-driver.org/
[07:06] <A10n> Jordan_U,  Thank you
[07:06] <MindFreak> Anyone have an idea?
[07:06] <unop> jzlP,  mv it -- mv -R oldname newname
[07:06] <Akuma_> davin: 1 hdd, 6 gigs, IDE
[07:06] <enat> (iface $interface inet dhcp)
[07:06] <Fedge> flannel: as long as it doesn't go to the mbr i think i'm safe, so i'll try /dev/null
[07:06] <m_billybob> quaal: i could be wrong, but since here, i run nothing that anyone else NEEDs on linux, and uptimes mean nothing to me, i just restart when in doubt
[07:06] <enat> i.e. iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:06] <Flannel> Fedge: Why are you worried about installing to the MBR?
[07:06] <enat> in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:07] <shatrat> MindFreak, if you installed it in Synaptic you can use the Package -> Force Version menu to change its version
[07:07] <Akuma_> Jordan_U: that'd be interedting. somehow i didn't see it as an option though, much have missed it.
[07:07] <davin> Akuma_: So hows your partition setup? I recommend you choose the 'default partition layout' (/ and /swap)
[07:07] <Fedge> flannel: i'm trying to dual boot with vista, and i've tried everything else =\
[07:07] <jzlP> unop, its within my /media/ directory (a shared ntfs-3g mount).. does that matter
[07:07] <mikejanssen> i just tri-booted last night
[07:07] <mikejanssen> = )
[07:07] <Lord> is there a way to boot ubuntu from the winxp bootloader? i reallllly want to keep it if i can.
[07:07] <enat> anybody know why ssh is asking for this private identity key's passphrase?
[07:07] <enat> :/
[07:07] <enat> plz?
[07:07] <Flannel> Lord: no.  But grub can boot to windows just fine.
[07:07] <enat> it doesn't when using securecrt on windows
[07:07] <aalhamad> im trying to configure my wireless conection .. or my wirelss card. how cani know that its working ...
[07:07] <enat> lol
[07:07] <joe___> odd,  it says its detected the theme, and now i can use it, but its not on the install list?
[07:07] <shatrat> Lord, why bother.
[07:07] <unop> jzlP,  in that case - mv -R /media/oldname /media/newname
[07:08] <Akuma_> davin: i chose the erase entire disk option (the non-lvm one)
[07:08] <aalhamad> as i tried to search in the device manager i cna;t find it..
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Lord: Yes but it is still very Beta
[07:08] <Flannel> Fedge: Is grub not able to boot vista?
[07:08] <aalhamad> plz if somebody can help me
[07:08] <Fedge> flannel: no, i've tried a few times and each time it's corrupted the vista install
[07:08] <davin> Akuma_: then it should work, youre using Edgy or Dapper?
[07:08] <shatrat> !wireless|aalhamad
[07:08] <ubotu> aalhamad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:08] <Akuma_> davin: edgy
[07:08] <MindFreak> shatrat, I have uninstalled it and reinstalled 1000x, but it still shows as .18, I will try your method
[07:08] <aalhamad> thanks
[07:08] <Akuma_> davin: the path to vmlinuz in menu.lst is fine, too
[07:08] <davin> Akuma_: Hmm I myself am on Dapper because Edgy cant recognise 5 of my mice
[07:09] <Flannel> Fedge: interesting.  Vista... shouldn't have anything important in the MBR (well, except it's bootloader), how... very odd.  What a dumb thing.
[07:09] <unop> enat,  just a guess -- maybe ssh doesnt talk this fancy thing securecrt uses
[07:09] <davin> Akuma_: hold on
[07:09] <shatrat> MindFreak, well if you uninstall and reinstall of course it will install the same version
[07:09] <zen2> Hi
[07:09] <MindFreak> but the REPO shows it as .15 but when I open it, it says .18
[07:09] <aalhamad> plus plzz how can i know my speed of connection ?
[07:09] <Fedge> flannel: Yeah, all the reading i've done comes to the same conclusion.  Vista is just a pain...
[07:09] <jzlP> unop,  "mv: invalid option -- R
[07:09] <jzlP> "
[07:09] <aalhamad> i mean is it 1mb or .5 mb?
[07:09] <enat> maybe, but you'd expect one to ask for the pass if the other does
[07:09] <enat> or vice versa
[07:09] <MindFreak> shatrat, but the REPO shows it as .15 but when I open it, it says .18
[07:10] <Flannel> Fedge: well, yeah, /dev/null should work.  unless the installer checks something.
[07:10] <unop> jzlP,  hmm -- try without the -R then
[07:10] <jzlP> ok
[07:10] <davin> Akuma_: go to pastecode.com and paste the outcome of 'sudo fdisk -l' and send me the link
[07:10] <Fedge> flannel: yeah, the install should be done soon, i'll let you know how it works
[07:10] <shatrat> MindFreak, just try the Package / force version menu, you can change it to anything available.
[07:10] <Lord> shatrat, Jordan_U : my lappy (presario v6000) has "quickplay" which is really windows xp embeded, and the one-button boot will not work with grub. you have to select it from the grub menu, like any other os
[07:10] <Akuma_> davin: i can't even get to the command line though...
[07:10] <Flannel> Fedge: thanks, please follow up.  I'm sure we'll get that question a lot soon. (and I've never used the liveCD, heh)
[07:10] <jzlP> unop, can I PM you?
[07:10] <zen2> How can get the new source list
[07:10] <MindFreak> ok.
[07:10] <Fedge> flannel: i'll keep you posted
[07:10] <davin> Akuma_: Use a LiveCD
[07:11] <unop> jzlP,  you could, i dunno if you'll get a reply -- in any case, its better to ask it in here, others could help
[07:11] <m_billybob> ah XP embedded
[07:11] <shatrat> Lord, you could pu tgrub on a floppy or usb stick or something and use that when you want to boot linux I guess.
[07:11] <n2diy_> ! sources | zen2
[07:11] <ubotu> zen2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:11] <zen2> apt-get install kile dnt works
[07:11] <Akuma_> davin: wait up
[07:11] <MindFreak> shatrat, just tried it, and it still shows BitTorrent 0.3.18, after I force version to the only one available in edgy 0.3.15
[07:11] <davin> Akuma_: sure thing
[07:12] <shatrat> MindFreak, did you apply and everything?
[07:12] <Flannel> Lord: the other solution is to have (assuming you have multiple HDDs) one bootloader per drive (on the MBR of each drive), and then you select by changing your BIOS.
[07:12] <unop> jzlP, does this not work? mv /media/oldname /media/newname
[07:12] <Erealz> hey can some one tell me how I can get totem and mplayer to play avi .wma files
[07:12] <Flannel> Lord: that is, the other solution to a boot floppy/CD
[07:12] <MindFreak> shatrat, I reinstalled it with FORCE VERSION, is their a cache anywhere... it is really annoying me, I havent had an issue like this ever...
[07:12] <shatrat> Flannel, how many laptops have multiple harddrives?
[07:12] <Flannel> shatrat: More than zero
[07:12] <unop> Erealz,  install the w32codecs package
[07:12] <shatrat> Flannel, that might still be less than 1
[07:12] <Erealz> unop using synaptic?
[07:12] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: check PM on other server
[07:12] <zen2> ./configure kile has a error "No X include"
[07:13] <n2diy_> oh no, zero wars?
[07:13] <unop> Erealz,  whatever you are comfortable with :)
[07:13] <Flannel> shatrat: Nah, I know of a least a few that do.  So, I figured I'd throw it out there.
[07:13] <jzlP> unop, ok.. here is the isssue.  I installed ntfs-config and it automatically created the directories to mount the 2 NTFS drives.  they were named "Media 1" and "Media 2" in the windows 2003 install.  Well ntfs-config created the directories with the space in there and now I am trying to share them via samba...
[07:13] <shatrat> MindFreak, well if you cant use force version to choose the version you want, maybe it isnt available, or maybe there is something specific to that program that makes the versioning confusing
[07:14] <MindFreak> shatrat, it is really ridiculous...
[07:14] <jzlP> unop, ... and now having a fun time deciding if I need to share them as "Media\0401", "Media 1" or "media1"
[07:14] <unop> jzlP,  ahh, better to avoid spaces -- but i have a feeling this is more than just a simple issue of renaming the folders -- you probably need to edit the /etc/fstab file too
[07:14] <Lord> shatrat, Flannel : it sounds easier to just select it from the grub menu =)
[07:14] <Erealz> I just did you serch unop in synaptic bro and it didn't find any?
[07:14] <Lord> jordan_U: what about this very beta method?
[07:14] <jzlP> unop, exactly.... that is what I am trying to do
[07:14] <Jordan_U_> Erealz: You need to enable multiverse
[07:15] <unop> !seveas | Erealz
[07:15] <ubotu> Erealz: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:15] <Flannel> Lord: you can always have that be the "default" boot, with a timeout of 1s or something, so that by default (when youre doing your quickboot... lid closed, whatever thing), it boots to that.
[07:15] <Flannel> Lord: default boot in grub, that is.
[07:15] <unop> jzlP,  you should be able to share them as "media 1" ..
[07:15] <shatrat> Lord, Sounds easier to boot linux and use mplayer.  That way you dont have to worry about getting r00ted by some south korean botnet while watching The Waterboy
[07:15] <TravisivarT> m_billybob, haha, unfortunately i'm at a friends' house
[07:15] <Akuma_> davin: it says "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[07:15] <TravisivarT> sorry :-/
[07:16] <unop> jzlP,  i gotta go, will be back in about 10 minutes -- the others in here will be able to help
[07:16] <Jordan_U_> Lord: It installs grub to the boot.ini and Ubuntu to a .iso file on your NTFS partition, so no repartitioning required, and it is NOT virtualised, it is a true dual boot
[07:16] <jzlP> unop, even with the NTFS name being "Media 1" and the directory in /media?
[07:16] <davin> Akuma_: While booting up?
[07:16] <jzlP> unop, thanks for trying :)
[07:17] <Akuma_> davin: i put the cd in and chose "recover a broken system", then found a shell
[07:17] <unop> jzlP,  ahh, quick suggestion -- you could create a "spaceless" directory in /media that is a link to "Media 1" and share that .. so you dont have to go through this hassle :)
[07:17] <A10n> Jordan_U, About my grub problem, update-grub doesn't find my windows parition. I think that the Ubuntu installation might have over written my MBR
[07:17] <Lord> Flannel, theres a button on the lappy that when pressed boots quickplay, very fast abd no other user input. press a button, pop in a dvd and watch
[07:17] <phiqtion> i need help adding 1280 to my X11 configuration!! please
[07:17] <tracy> hey im trying to get gedit to run, any tips? this is what im getting:
[07:17] <davin> Akuma_: ok, now type 'sudo fdisk -l'
[07:17] <unop> jzlP,  sudo ln -s "/media/Media 1" /media/media1  ... for example
[07:17] <tracy> cannot open display:
[07:17] <tracy> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[07:18] <jason__> Are you running from the GUI or from the terminal tracy?
[07:18] <lan56> hello; I am trying to install xubuntu, and when I run ntfsresize off of the livecd to try and partition to have a dual boot computer, ntfsresize crashes and aborts with the error message "*** glibc detected *** double free or corrupted"
[07:18] <Akuma_> davin: yeah it says "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[07:18] <tracy> terminal, jason__
[07:18] <phiqtion> i need help adding 1280 to my X11 configuration!! please
[07:18] <jason__> Do you have a GUI running, or are you only in the terminal?
[07:18] <Lord> shatrat, lol...fortunately quickplay it totally clueless of the network hardware....in fact, windows xp pro can't even assign a drive letter to the partition....so i'm confident its safe.
[07:18] <tracy> imnot sure about a gui, how do i find out?
[07:18] <Lord> Jordan_U_, where can i learn more?
[07:19] <davin> Akuma_: You sure your HDD jumper is set to Master?
[07:19] <aalhamad> hi all i've check the wiki but still my wirelss card is not reconized
[07:19] <Flannel> Lord: Just... don't think that means your quickplay is safe (although, its probably firmware on a separate thing somewhere), Linux can do a lot of stuff XP can't do.  Because Linux assumes the user knows what theyre doing.
[07:20] <Akuma_> davin: yeah, sure
[07:20] <jason__> Well can you use your mouse at all tracy?
[07:20] <Akuma_> davin: it also appears as master in the bios
[07:20] <davin> Akuma_: Then I have no idea :/ Sorry
[07:20] <tracy> yes, jason__
[07:20] <davin> Akuma_: wait
[07:20] <aliasgherman> Is there any utility that can supply the clients with network boot + KDE Desktop
[07:20] <Fedge> flannel: well, grub didn't like /dev/null
[07:20] <davin> Akuma_: type 'grub', do you get a GRUB> prompt?
[07:21] <jason__> Ok, well normally to run gedit try typing
[07:21] <csg> excuse who can help me configuring my wireless netgear card please
[07:21] <jason__> "sudo gedit" in the terminal
[07:21] <aliasgherman> Oh Please, Is there any utility that can supply the clients with network boot + KDE Desktop
[07:21] <Akuma_> davin: i get "error opening terminal: bterm"
[07:21] <jason__> That will run gedit with super user priverlages so be careful what you edit
[07:21] <davin> Akuma: I think your CD is damaged
[07:22] <Lord> Flannel, i just think that it is a cool feature to have and i'd like to keep it in place as much as i can. the first version of quickplay actually was linux...too bad hp want to the dark side with winxp embedded...
[07:22] <vh18> can anyone point me to an walkthrough of installing ubuntu on my windows machine?
[07:22] <tracy> jason__, this is what ive typed:
[07:22] <tracy> sudo gedit /usr/bin/runLime.sh
[07:22] <Akuma_> davin: i checked the image it was fine. plus i tried with two cds, ubuntu server and xubuntu
[07:22] <tracy> and i got the error
[07:22] <tracy> cannot open display:
[07:22] <tracy> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[07:22] <davin> Akuma_: Sorry I cant imagine anything wrong =[
[07:23] <Akuma_> davin: its ok then. thanks for you help, i apreciate
[07:23] <m_billybob> tracy: are you in X, if so, are you running th command as sudo or root ?
[07:23] <csg> excuse who can help me configuring my wireless netgear card please
[07:23] <shatrat> vh18, http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-desktop-installation-with-screenshots.html
[07:23] <davin> whoops
[07:23] <phiqtion> i need help adding 1280 to my X11 configuration!! please
[07:23] <vh18> cool, thanks
[07:23] <davin> Akuma_: Glad to help
[07:23] <TravisivarT> hey, i just tried nexuiz and the graphics were all distorted, i've got an NVIDIA 8800gtx with the latest NVIDIA drivers
[07:23] <jason__> I'm not sure why you're getting that erorr tracy
[07:23] <tracy> m_billybob, ive ran as root and sudo, and im assuming i am in X
[07:23] <jason__> As a temporary alternative you can try using nano
[07:24] <shatrat> TravisivarT, you have the 9746 drivers?
[07:24] <m_billybob> tracy: pretty colored screen or black and grey terminal ?
[07:24] <TravisivarT> shatrat: yes
[07:24] <jason__> sudo nano /user/bin/runLime.sh
[07:24] <tracy> pretty screen
[07:24] <shatrat> TravisivarT, you  might want to check the nvnews.net linux foren, I doubt there are too many 8800s in this channel yet.
[07:24] <m_billybob> as jason said there try nano instead
[07:24] <tracy> jason__, whatever that was brought me to something
[07:25] <tracy> im not sure what to do with it though
[07:25] <jason__> Well you should be in a text editor that sits inside of the terminal
[07:25] <TravisivarT> shatrat: well the changelog mentioned that 8800gtx support had JUST been added in this version, so is it possible that the support is just shaky?
[07:25] <jason__> You can use that to edit that file as well.
[07:25] <tracy> yeah i think thats it
[07:25] <jason__> nano is a text-based text editor, lol
[07:25] <tracy> lol
[07:26] <shatrat> TravisivarT, quite possible.  You might find a workaround though, disable something or other in your nvidia settings and it works, that sort of thing
[07:26] <tracy> thanks for the help, im gonna try and work with this now
[07:27] <shatrat> TravisivarT, if you can reproduce it though, the nvidia devs are very good about checking into these sorts of things if you can put up the information the need for a bug report
[07:27] <jason__> No prob Tracy, good luck.
[07:27] <tracy> hm ok so im looking at the options in the text editor, how do i .. make one work. (i know that sounds incredibly stupid)
[07:27] <m_billybob> TravisivarT: you have to realize something, Windows support  right_now for the 8800 series card is rather lacking so . . .
[07:27] <tracy> i typed the letter of the option, hit enter and it just went to a new line
[07:28] <m_billybob> Linux definately isnt goign to be better
[07:28] <Flannel> Fedge: Hmm.  I don't know.  I'm googling like nobodys business though ;)  You might have to go alternate CD, I guess.
[07:28] <Jordan_U__> Fedge: What's the question?
[07:28] <aalhamad> i have a PCI Wireless Adapter for my desktop .. the manufacture is Micronet ..( i never heard about is, but it happen that i have it) i can't get it congifured .. i searched everywhere, on the wiki, googled for it... but ubuntu can't recongnize it
[07:29] <Flannel> Jordan_U__: trying to install Edgy with Desktop CD, and not install grub
[07:29] <shatrat> tracy, what are you using, nano? the letters are to use with the CTRL key
[07:29] <Fedge> Jordan: i'm trying to install edgy desktop without installing grub, or by installing grub somewhere harmless
[07:29] <tracy> thanks shatrat
[07:29] <shatrat> tracy, so like, ctrl o saves, ctrl x exits, ctrl w finds, etc
[07:29] <tracy> ive never used it like this before
[07:29] <phiqtion> my screen resolution went nuts after installing nvidia driver, i need 1280x1024 enabled!!!!! please anyone help!!!
[07:30] <shatrat> the ^ means ctrl to linux greybeards.
[07:30] <tracy> im supposed to add a line
[07:30] <tracy> and cant find the text to add it
[07:30] <Jordan_U__> Flannel: You can install LILO after installing GRUB, is that OK?
[07:30] <m_billybob> or my favorite crtl x 'y' <enter> ;)
[07:30] <bulmer> Fedge do you think grub is harmful?
[07:30] <phiqtion> !xorg
[07:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:30] <Flannel> Jordan_U__: No no.  We're trying to not overwrite the bootloader.
[07:30] <Jordan_U__> Flannel: You could also remove GRUB from the live session with apt-get
[07:30] <m_billybob> oh definately not
[07:30] <m_billybob> didnt even realize :/
[07:30] <spike723_> there is no escape from grub
[07:31] <jason__> I'm sorry Tracy what now?
[07:31] <zork> anyone here using avant
[07:31] <Flannel> bulmer: He's trying to dualboot with Vista, and apparently V and grub don't play nice.
[07:31] <shatrat> grubs are like daleks
[07:31] <tracy> im supposed to add the line: cd /opt/LimeWire/
[07:31] <tracy> ./runLime.sh
[07:31] <Flannel> Fedge: Well, I know for a fact its doable on the alternate CD, if we can't figure htis out.
[07:31] <Jordan_U__> Flannel: where there is no grub-install there is no GRUB :)
[07:31] <tracy> to the text editor
[07:31] <caturOK> how to set eth0:0 at shorewall
[07:31] <m_billybob> Flannel: 'he' needs to get grub out of his mind, and use boot.ini
[07:31] <tracy> cant figure where to put it though because i dont see any text :\ just options of what to do
[07:31] <Jordan_U__> Flannel: You want to install GRUB to a partition rather than the mbr?
[07:31] <tracy> hit read, no text still
[07:31] <Fedge> flannel: ok, i'll start DLing that iso while we work on it
[07:32] <caturOK> i want use alias interfaces
[07:32] <Fedge> Jordan: yes
[07:32] <Loc-Nar> Is it common to use an ident server? if so which to use
[07:32] <shatrat> tracy, I see, well go to wherever runeLime.sh is, and then "nano runLine.sh" and then use the arrow keys to move your cursor around to where you pu tthe new line, and use enter as line return, just type it in, ctrl o, ctrl x, done.
[07:33] <Jordan_U__> Fedge: You can choose in espresso what device you want to install to ( /dev/hda1 )
[07:33] <jason__> Ok hold on tracy
[07:33] <jason__> nano is already open right?
[07:33] <Fedge> jordan: i'm not familiar with espresso
[07:33] <tracy> just gotta figure out where it is
[07:33] <tracy> yes jason__
[07:33] <jason__> Ok
[07:33] <jason__> copy this
[07:33] <Jordan_U__> Fedge: I think I got the name wrong, what is the LiveCD install program called again?
[07:34] <jason__> (to your clipboard, just highlight and copy)
[07:34] <caturOK> huaaaaaaaammmm
[07:34] <caturOK> no answer for my
[07:34] <Flannel> Jordan_U__: ubiquity
[07:34] <Fedge> jordan: uhm, "Install?"
[07:34] <jason__> Wait hold on
[07:34] <Jordan_U__> Flannel: Thanks, Fedge: I meant Ubiquity
[07:34] <jason__> This command here "cd /opt/LimeWire/"
[07:34] <jason__> is not normally something you would put in the file.
[07:34] <Fedge> jordan: oh, right, sorry
[07:35] <tracy> umm i dont think anything happened
[07:36] <Lord> jordan_U_: I just looked at that grub via boot.ini thing. I'm gonna leave things as they are now (able to boot ubuntu, winxp media center, and quickplay from grub) and watch that project. i already have ubuntu up (no network yet) and have winxp mce crammed onto a little 12gb partition, so that the boss (ubuntu) has 60gb of room to sprawl. thanks for the info.
[07:36] <jason__> Ok
[07:36] <tracy> let me start over
[07:36] <jason__> Are you supposed to be typing something into that file you're editing?
[07:36] <tracy> yes
[07:36] <caturOK> how to good setup with shorewall using virtual interfaces
[07:36] <jason__> Is it more than one line?
[07:36] <samin> i like irc :)
[07:36] <Fedge> flannel: do you think installing to /dev/ would be any more successful?
[07:36] <csg> who can help me with my wireless card please?
[07:37] <Jordan_U__> Fedge: You click the button which is labeled "hd0" in this screenshot and enter the device name / partition http://debianadmin.com/copper/albums/edgy/22.png
[07:37] <EnigmaCurry> /join #python
[07:37] <EnigmaCurry> 
[07:37] <tracy> can i pm you jason__ ?
[07:37] <jason__> Sure
[07:38] <Fedge> jordan_U: yeah, we got that far
[07:38] <zork>  having an avant issue, keeps saying no package gnome-deskto-2.0, libgnome-2.0, gnomevfs-2.0
[07:38] <Fedge> jordan_U: but installing to /dev/null doesn't work, and i've only got one hdd
[07:38] <zork> any ideas?
[07:38] <tanlaan> !mame
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <makuseru> does anyone know if theres anyway to save the prefrences on a live cd?
[07:38] <Flannel> Jordan_U__: haha.  Thats exactly the same link I gav ehim earlier ;)
[07:38] <Flannel> !persistence | makuseru
[07:38] <ubotu> makuseru: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[07:38] <Fedge> yeah =D
[07:39] <makuseru> thanks
[07:39] <OzoneCo> i start an install with sudo, before it finishes, it errors on a mkdir command, how do i give it the rights to install? ty
[07:39] <Lord> Jordan_U__, did you get my post about leaving things for now?
[07:39] <zork> ozoneco make sure sudo is befor the mkdir command as well
[07:40] <Jordan_U__> Lord: No, I hadn't
[07:40] <zork> ozoneco you can also chmod the directory to give correct permissions
[07:40] <caturOK> hmmm
[07:40] <Flannel> zork: thats a bad solution.
[07:40] <Lord> Jordan_U__: i saw u poof as i hit enter.  I just looked at that grub via boot.ini thing. I'm gonna leave things as they are now (able to boot ubuntu, winxp media center, and quickplay from grub) and watch that project. i already have ubuntu up (no network yet) and have winxp mce crammed onto a little 12gb partition, so that the boss (ubuntu) has 60gb of room to sprawl. thanks for the info.
[07:41] <OzoneCo> so premaking the folders is or isn't the way to go?
[07:41] <OzoneCo> the readme says they will install to 3 named folders, it doesn't say if it will or wont make them
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Fedge: /dev/null is nothing... You want to enter whatever it says but with a 2 after it ( for installing to your second partition ) I *think* that will not install it to the mbr but I am only 90% sure
[07:42] <OzoneCo> i would think it would if i could do more than sudo
[07:42] <samin> hey all! does anyone have a suggestion for a kick ass game that installs OK on ubuntu (that's, of course, free)?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> samin: xmoto
[07:42] <Flannel> !games | samin
[07:42] <ubotu> samin: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:43] <noiesmo> samiam, OpenArena is an open-source content package for Quake III Arena licensed under the GPL
[07:43] <freeflyer57> anybody know anything about LoCo teams
[07:43] <freeflyer57> personally
[07:43] <AnAnt> is there a console software that lists the hardware info on my laptop ?
[07:43] <Fedge> Jordan_U: I'm using a sata disk, so everything has been (sda).  Should I try installing to (sd2) ?
[07:44] <Madpilot> freeflyer57, lots of us are involved in them, at various levels. What's your question?
[07:44] <OzoneCo> * mumbles something about more questions than he had
[07:44] <shatrat> AnAnt, lspci will list the devices.
[07:44] <freeflyer57> what are your main jobs?
[07:44] <unop> AnAnt,  lshw
[07:44] <AnAnt> unop: thanks
[07:44] <Flannel> OzoneCo: chmod/chown is a bad way to go aout these things.  sudo is a good solution.  If you want to do more than one thing as sudo, "sudo -i" then do it (and then exit once it's done)
[07:44] <freeflyer57> what do you do most?
[07:45] <unop> AnAnt,  this might also work - hwinfo
[07:45] <Pooky> Anyone here using vmplayer that could tell me what the config entries for vmnet0 look like?
[07:45] <AnAnt> I meant something like "Belarc Advisor" that is for windows
[07:45] <davint> whats the GNOME equilevant of KSnapShot? (screen capture
[07:45] <AnAnt> unop: do you know what package does "hwinfo" exist in ?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Fedge: No, sda2 ( that means the second partition, 2, on the first drive, a which is sata, hence the sd ) it is confusing but much more easily identifiable than E: IMHO :)
[07:45] <OzoneCo> Flannel: ty, i think thats the info i needed...i'm assuming the -i carries thru the install as opposed to currently not using it
[07:46] <unop> AnAnt,  same name - hwinfo
[07:46] <AnAnt> unop: thanks a lot
[07:46] <Madpilot> freeflyer57, LoCos do all sorts of things; some of them do public events, some are really just mailing lists; some do actual face-to-face meetings
[07:46] <Madpilot> davint, um, just hitting PrntScrn?
[07:46] <Flannel> OzoneCo: no no.  "sudo -i"  and then run the command.  Two separate things.
[07:46] <Fedge> Jordan_U: your post confused me :).  Do you think sd2 is a good idea or not?
[07:47] <freeflyer57> Madpilot, What are the responsibilties of a team founder?
[07:47] <m_billybob> Fedge: you tried this ? ---> http://www.hevnikov.com/blog/2006/11/13/triple-boot-xp-vista-ubuntu-with-single-boot-screen/
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Fedge: No, it's not, you want to enter "sda2"
[07:47] <Madpilot> freeflyer57, to convince people to join up and get things done, basically ;)
[07:47] <OzoneCo> Flannel: newbie shows eh?  :)   thanks again
[07:47] <mikejanssen> i dont mind 2 boot screens on the tri boot
[07:47] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:47] <samin> thanks guys for the games tips!
[07:47] <mikejanssen> takes extra 2 seconds
[07:47] <samin> I've actually tried openarena
[07:47] <bobli> hey guys, im new to Linux and thinking about running a livecd, can anyone inform about the different versions of ubuntu?
[07:47] <davint> Madpilot ah lol thanks
[07:48] <bobli> maybe in a private chat?
[07:48] <freeflyer57> madpilot, Do you work on any open projects as a team?
[07:48] <Fedge> jordan_U: oh oh oh, yes, right, ok.  Thank you
[07:48] <samin> when i run openarena, the graphics are weird (the rendering is psycadelic). I have the same problem when running tremulous
[07:48] <phiqtion> should i enable the kernel to use the framebuffer device interface?
[07:48] <samin> does anyone have ideas why this happens?
[07:48] <AmaroqWolf> Quick question. I had firefox working perfectly with sound and flash and such. But when I upgraded to firefox2, a friend of mine had me use some shell script that someone had written in order to do so. Well, the new firefox was left exactly like I got the old one. With no flash, and no sound. I managed to get most of it working right again, but I've come across a specific youtube video that isn't giving me any sound. When I read
[07:48] <AmaroqWolf> the shell script, I saw that it makes a backup copy of the old firefox before it installs the new one. Can I just copy the plugins from the old firefox into the new one? If so, where are they located anyway?
[07:48] <bobli> anybody :(?
[07:49] <corevette> i have the madwifi drivers installed.....but how come its not working for my wireless card?
[07:49] <oc48> Does any one know how to convert hd-dvd, I looked on Google but didnt find anything.
[07:49] <Madpilot> freeflyer57, that depends on the LoCo - most have some projects on the go, often some sort of public education/outreach work. Ubuntu Canada's Toronto team just held an event in front of Microsoft's Vista-Is-Wonderful tent in downtown Toronto, for example
[07:49] <samin> bobli: there is kubuntu, xububntu, edubuntu, and normal ubuntu
[07:49] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  yes and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/*
[07:49] <freeflyer57> bobli, try wiki
[07:49] <bobli> ahh kk :)
[07:49] <AmaroqWolf> unop, thank you
[07:49] <samin> i would suggest ubuntu as it is appears to be the best supported
[07:49] <Fedge> m_billybob: no, thanks very much for the link, i'm reading it now
[07:49] <Flannel> bobli: Edubuntu isn't really geared towards desktop users.
[07:49] <samin> yeah
[07:49] <freeflyer57> Thanks madpilot for the info.
[07:50] <Flannel> bobli: but any of the others is fine, depending on what you want to look at ;)
[07:50] <shatrat> AmaroqWolf, I think you should install the flashplugin-nonfree from the backports repository and not fudge with that though
[07:50] <samin> agree with flannel
[07:50] <AmaroqWolf> I'll have to figure out where it put that backup copy
[07:50] <AmaroqWolf> well, flash works for me, and sound and everything for most flashes works.
[07:50] <m_billybob> Fedge: im sure you could adapt that to your purposes.
[07:50] <mneptok> corevette: Edgy?
[07:50] <AmaroqWolf> I just encountered one youtube video that has no sound, and I wonder if it might be a codec missing.
[07:50] <shatrat> AmaroqWolf, you might not have the latest version though, a lot of the sound bugs have only been fixed recently
[07:50] <samin> bobli: normal ubuntu iswhat i use, and I have had fewer hassles than kubuntu
[07:50] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  flash v7 has sound issues with some youtube videos -- you can try out v9, it's known to work ok
[07:50] <bobli> thanks very much, i think my hardware should be fine, its a year old. I'll grab the Ubuntu disc
[07:50] <freeflyer57> bobli, i think ubuntu is the way to go.
[07:50] <AmaroqWolf> okay
[07:50] <Jordan_U> AmaroqWolf: You may want to get flash 9, it's available in backports
[07:51] <bobli> thanks :D
[07:51] <mattycoze> hay, i was wondering whether anyone knew how to use and install asterisk, pm me cheers
[07:51] <mneptok> bobli: what are the spocs of your system?
[07:51] <mneptok> *specs
[07:51] <bobli> AMD 64 X2 4400+
[07:51] <bobli> ATI X1900 XT
[07:51] <AmaroqWolf> flash 9 or flash-nonfree?
[07:51] <m_billybob> if Ubuntu doesnt work Sabayon linux probably will
[07:51] <viniciusf> hi there
[07:51] <bobli> 2gig OCZ Platinum Ram
[07:51] <mneptok> bobli: yeah, Ubuntu
[07:51] <bobli> ASUS AX8 V2.0 mobo
[07:52] <Jordan_U> AmaroqWolf: flashplugin-nonfree but you need to enable the backports repository first
[07:52] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  which one is available to you -- check with apt-cache search flash
[07:52] <oc48> Does any one know how to convert hd-dvd, I looked on Google but didnt find anything?
[07:52] <shatrat> oc48, check doom9 forums.
[07:52] <m_billybob> good luckj with that
[07:52] <AmaroqWolf> unop, lots of them. xD
[07:52] <freeflyer57> bobli, Kubuntu is setup somewhat like windows if you want to convert slowly
[07:52] <samin> has anyone here played openarena and/or tremulous?
[07:53] <bobli> freeflyer57: i dont mind throwing myself in the deep end
[07:53] <AmaroqWolf> I do see flashplugin-nonfree
[07:53] <shatrat> samin, ive played tremulous, its fun
[07:53] <samin> freeflyer: that's true, but ubuntu seems easoer to use
[07:53] <freeflyer57> bobli I jumped right in to
[07:53] <AmaroqWolf> Jordan_U, flashplugin nonfree is already the newest version
[07:53] <AmaroqWolf> er, flashplugin-nonfree
[07:53] <freeflyer57> I prefer gnome anyday
[07:54] <bobli> freeflyer57: i heard about an ap that is similar to the Vista Aero glass, are things like that built in? or do i need to get them seperately
[07:54] <m_billybob> Edgy's liveCD install is fairly painless
[07:54] <Jordan_U> AmaroqWolf: Do you have backports enabled?
[07:54] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  which repo does apt-cache report flashplugin-nonfree to be from/and what version?
[07:54] <m_billybob> bobli: beryl ?
[07:54] <samin> shatrat, do you have any graphics issues?
[07:54] <viniciusf> anyone know how to fix my broken xorg? the latest l-r-m update screwed my setup
[07:54] <freeflyer57> probably separate
[07:54] <shatrat> samin, not on my 6800
[07:54] <bobli> m_billbob: that sounds right, is that included?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> bobli: Beryl comes seperate but will be default in the next version of Ubuntu
[07:54] <freeflyer57> bobli with gnome there is a lot to add
[07:55] <thenetduck> anyone here?
[07:55] <shatrat> no
[07:55] <freeflyer57> yes
[07:55] <bobli> im currently downloading ubuntu 6.10 iso
[07:55] <thenetduck> lol
[07:55] <shatrat> ok hes here, but im not.
[07:55] <bobli> i can use that as a livecd right?
[07:55] <AmaroqWolf> unop, it just says flashplugin-nonfree - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[07:55] <m_billybob> bobli : not in Edgy that im aware of, however it does come on SabayonLinux's liveCD
[07:55] <thenetduck> riigh
[07:55] <Flannel> bobli: yes, the Desktop CD is also an installer
[07:55] <samin> hey shatrat, how do I talk to you 1-on-1 (I'm using XChat)
[07:55] <freeflyer57> yes
[07:55] <thenetduck> I need to view the applications that I am running
[07:55] <mikejanssen> i used beryl for 2 days
[07:55] <mikejanssen> heh
[07:55] <mikejanssen> found it useless
[07:55] <bobli> what is sabayon linux?
[07:55] <mikejanssen> = )
[07:55] <freeflyer57> use private message
[07:55] <shatrat> samin, /msg shatrat or right click my name in the right side panel
[07:56] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  ahh , sorry -- this ought to list version numbers -- apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[07:56] <m_billybob> bobli: just keep in mind, that SabayonLinux live CD, is actually a liveDVD
[07:56] <m_billybob> 3 + GB
[07:56] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, what kind of vieweing?
[07:56] <samin> shatrat: and then?
[07:56] <bobli> im betting its a torrent too ?
[07:56] <viniciusf> anyone know how to fix my broken xorg? the latest l-r-m update screwed my setup <- anyone?
[07:56] <mikejanssen> my edgy dvd was 3+gb w00t, didnt have any free cd-r's left, had to do dvd
[07:56] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, when it shows up in my panel
[07:56] <m_billybob> bobli: yes, and no, there are some mirrors up
[07:56] <freeflyer57> i just deleted 25 GB in /var/cache/log
[07:57] <Jordan_U> viniciusf: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, when what shows up?
[07:57] <shatrat> samin, open dialog window
[07:57] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, for instance, when I open amorok (btw im using gnome) and then close it
[07:57] <AmaroqWolf> unop, looks like multiverse
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, ah
[07:57] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, an Icon shows up in my panel normally
[07:57] <viniciusf> Jordan, yes, just a minute...
[07:57] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, u wanna see whats running in the background?
[07:57] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  thats probably the old flash then 7.0.x ... the version number should be listed there too
[07:57] <bobli> so um, aside from being free, what are the benefits, i got Vista business last week free from the MSDN AA
[07:57] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, well ya, but just for applications like gaim and amorok
[07:58] <AmaroqWolf> unop, someone once had me edit a file and put things like backport in. Did that file revert? Oh, it looks like the flash version is 9.0.31
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, try ps -A
[07:58] <bobli> i just wanna know what all the fuss is about
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, shows you all the processes that are running
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, ps -ef shows more information
[07:58] <unop> AmaroqWolf, looks like you have backports enabled -- and the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:58] <quisinart> oh god i am lost and i need to be helped or i will be bored all night and not watching DVD movies :(
[07:58] <Jordan_U> bobli: Faster, more customizable, Beryl puts Aero glass to shame, lots of things :)
[07:58] <AmaroqWolf> Yes, that one.
[07:58] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, add a |grep <app name> after those to just show <app name>
[07:59] <mikejanssen> beryl is blegh
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, might like to check out top
[07:59] <freeflyer57> bobli, Linux is the cultural revolution of the 21st century
[07:59] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  you should have no problem installing flash with that then
[07:59] <mikejanssen> aero is blegh
[07:59] <m_billybob> bobli: concerning VIsta ?
[07:59] <mikejanssen> i like vista classic theme
[07:59] <mikejanssen> = )
[07:59] <samin> does anyone know how to talk to someone 1-on-1?
[07:59] <samin> using XChat
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, also, might want to just check out a gui version of all this, gnome-system-informatio
[07:59] <quisinart> pro click zone
[07:59] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I already have flash installed with that.
[07:59] <Jordan_U> samin: /msg <nick>
[07:59] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, well it was all ready working, but I some how got ride of it.
[07:59] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, gnome-system-monitor*
[07:59] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, ok that might be it
[08:00] <bobli> i mean, my vista runs nicer than XP did, and runs all my games etc, does everything i need
[08:00] <mikejanssen> bobli
[08:00] <bobli> so, wheres my insentive aside from curiosity?
[08:00] <m_billybob> bobli: its also much slower in a lot of cases
[08:00] <mikejanssen> dont expect linux to be a windows-like os
[08:00] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  verify flash's version using firefox - navigate to about:plugins
[08:00] <mikejanssen> expect to take time to learn this
[08:00] <bobli> i dont expect it to be like windows, i just wanna know the pros and cons
[08:00] <m_billybob> bobli: ive been running XP pro for years, I get really good uptimes
[08:00] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, it's not the system monitor
[08:00] <pppoe_dude> bobli, pros: control, freedom, convenience
[08:01] <mikejanssen> more secure...faster...more options on programs to use...
[08:01] <samin> ubuntu rulez!!
[08:01] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, do you know what Im talking about? It's just an icon that shows up after I have opened programs like gaim and amorok
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> bobli, cons: not windows (for some people a con)
[08:01] <m_billybob> bobli: Edgy liveCD is painless install, overall I like it, SabayonLinux liveCD looks more 'cutting edge' however
[08:01] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  i've come across some videos on youtube that even flashv9 has sound issues with -- then again, flashv9 for linux is still beta, so it could be down to that
[08:01] <freeflyer57> UBUNTU RULES
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, aahhh
[08:01] <mikejanssen> i like my pro's more
[08:01] <m_billybob> ubuntu is great
[08:01] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, you want the notification applet?
[08:01] <AmaroqWolf> unop, firefox says 7
[08:01] <mikejanssen> cons = some things dont work
[08:01] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:01] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, oooh maby that is it
[08:01] <mikejanssen> like my canon mp150 printer
[08:01] <Jordan_U> unop: Nope, Flash9 has been released
[08:01] <mikejanssen> and some peoples wireless cards
[08:01] <mikejanssen> but besides that
[08:01] <samin> i got off windows 2 months ago and I'm louvin every minute of it!! woo hoo!
[08:02] <mikejanssen> most things should work
[08:02] <m_billybob> Ubuntu, just like any other OS though, isnt perfect.
[08:02] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, : http://pastebin.com/878043 <- i replaced "nvidia" with "nv" to get here
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, try either adding it to the panel... or running gnome-notification-applet from a terminal...
[08:02] <unop> AmaroqWolf, you should probably uninstall and reinstall flash then
[08:02] <bobli> well i'll try this ubuntu 6.10
[08:02] <bobli> see how it goes
[08:02] <bobli> if its nice, ill grab that sabayon
[08:02] <mikejanssen> bobli
[08:02] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, it probably crashed if it was there before, try restarting your panels by issuing "killall gnome-panel"
[08:02] <mikejanssen> just dual boot
[08:02] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:02] <bobli> i will dual, indeed
[08:02] <mikejanssen> or triple...like me
[08:02] <mikejanssen> = X
[08:02] <m_billybob> bobli: what are *you* looking for in an OS ?
[08:02] <samin> remember children: google is your friend
[08:02] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I think I know what happened. Someone wrote a shell script that's meant to upgrade to the new firefox. But it moves the current firefox first to back it up. My plugins probably went to that.
[08:02] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, hey that work! Thanks
[08:03] <Jordan_U> viniciusf: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and when it asks you what driver to use, choose nvidia
[08:03] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, I guess it just needed to be restarted
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> thenetduck, anytime
[08:03] <bobli> thats it, im not entirely sure what im "looking for"
[08:03] <thenetduck> pppoe_dude, Thanks
[08:03] <bobli> maybe just something new
[08:03] <jbroome> something with "lots of quotes"?
[08:03] <bobli> hahaha
[08:03] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  ahh, i was under the impression you copied the plugins back .. well duhh :)
[08:03] <bobli> :P
[08:03] <bobli> i guess, i'll just see what it has to offer
[08:04] <AmaroqWolf> I'll have to read the shell script to see where they went. :P
[08:04] <m_billybob> bobli: ie, if you're looking for server type stuff, want a reliable distro, and dont mind the command line dapper is fairly solid, Edgy is more cutting edge, has better I/O, and has a really good liveCD, with option to install
[08:04] <bobli> i mean, im assuming its a minimal resource hog in comparison to windows?
[08:04] <mikejanssen> very much so
[08:04] <mattycoze> does anyone know anything about setting up a phone system on ubuntu?
[08:04] <bobli> which is gonna leave alot more for games
[08:04] <mikejanssen> vista = resource massacre
[08:04] <m_billybob> i wouldnt say that outright
[08:04] <quisinart> how can i tell what release of ubuntu is on this PC
[08:04] <m_billybob> you can 'tune' any distro / OS
[08:04] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  errm, check this location -- they could still be there  - /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[08:05] <mikejanssen> but...most games wont work directly with linux...gotta get other apps
[08:05] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:05] <quisinart> i forget if it is dapper or edgy
[08:05] <unop> mattycoze,  skype?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> bobli: I am running beryl on a 4 year old computer with an intel graphics card, and that is considered "bloated" for linux :)
[08:05] <frogzoo> quisinart: lsb_release -a
[08:05] <m_billybob> Edgy isnt without its flaws, take udev for example . . .
[08:05] <TravisivarT> !xinerama\
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinerama\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <TravisivarT> !xinerama
[08:05] <quisinart> thanks
[08:05] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:05] <viniciusf> Jordan_U,: thanks, i will try it. btw, here is my error when i tried to login after the l-r-m update: http://pastebin.com/878047
[08:05] <samin> hello shatrat!
[08:05] <pppoe_dude> quisinart, try apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <AmaroqWolf> unop, yes there are plugins in there too. I don't know how to tell if they're my original ones though. xD
[08:06] <pppoe_dude> quisinart, it should show you something with respect to repos
[08:06] <bobli> well thanks for your info guys, i'll prolly be back sometime tomorrow crying when i cant play oblivion on it XDDD
[08:06] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  they probably are -- because all mozilla apps tend to link their plugins folders to that location
[08:06] <mneptok> bobli: get a console for games
[08:06] <bobli> ill make sure to study lots before asking stupid questions, i like to learn :D
[08:06] <mneptok> :P
[08:06] <bobli> consoles.. for games
[08:06] <bobli> thats like saying
[08:06] <m_billybob> lol
[08:07] <bobli> heres a seive, please clean my water
[08:07] <shatrat> consoles are for children
[08:07] <mattycoze> unop: i don't like skype, i wanted to make a small telephony at home
[08:07] <m_billybob> bobli
[08:07] <m_billybob> some screenshots
[08:07] <mattycoze> unop: i heard of something called asterisk that might do the job
[08:07] <m_billybob> http://techgage.com/viewimg.php?img=http://techgage.com/reviews/software/sabayon/rc2/sabayon_rc1_09.png&desc=Sabayon%20Linux
[08:07] <mneptok> shatrat: i could well say that gaming is for children
[08:07] <m_billybob> well, thats one
[08:07] <m_billybob> (of Sabayon)
[08:07] <pppoe_dude> mattycoze, did u check out ekiga?
[08:07] <AmaroqWolf> unop, my firefox's plugin folder isn't a link, just a normal folder. I'll try copying the plugins though
[08:07] <mikejanssen> meh
[08:07] <m_billybob> using beryl
[08:07] <shatrat> mneptok, you could, but then I could say you smell like socks.  We are at an impasse.
[08:07] <bobli> anyway to tidy the desktop?
[08:07] <mikejanssen> sabayon uses kde?
[08:08] <bobli> i hate having anything on it
[08:08] <shatrat> bobli, delete everything works well
[08:08] <cables> shatrat, he's probably got drives and stuff
[08:08] <bobli> i "settle" for the windows start bar, because the auto hide makes me cringe
[08:08] <cables> bobli, sure, hold on a sec. If you want to get rid of the drives, I can tell you how to do it.
[08:08] <shatrat> cables, you can change where those get mounted in gconf-editor
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> bobli, in linux?
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> bobli, in gnome? use gconf-editor
[08:08] <cables> shatrat, i was going to tell him that...
[08:08] <mneptok> shatrat: except that i may smell like socks, but have a hot girlfriend. most intense gamers can't say the same thing. ;)
[08:09] <Madpilot> bobli, tidy which desktop? XP, Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[08:09] <pppoe_dude> bobli, search for nautilus/desktop and disable show volumes
[08:09] <shatrat> cables, I dont think hes even installed yet anyway.
[08:09] <cables> ah
[08:09] <cables> got it
[08:09] <shatrat> mneptok, every delusional inmate can though.
[08:09] <shatrat> mneptok, and weve already established that youre not an intense gamer, so you must be the latter.
[08:09] <cables> Does anyone here hate the autohide in gnome-panel? You can change it in gconf, but the default should at least be a bit better
[08:09] <BelialMkII> How can i find out what my dhcp server is from the command line
[08:09] <Madpilot> mneptok, shatrat - to PM, please - not that it isn't amusing watching you two snipe at each other...
[08:09] <shatrat> Q.E.D.
[08:09] <mneptok> shatrat: is there a reason you made this personal?
[08:09] <Fedge> Flannel: grub failed to install on /dev/ as well
[08:09] <bobli> i mean like, no button on it, is it simple to make the desktop "clean"
[08:09] <mattycoze> pppoe_dude yeah i've had a look but dunno how to use it
[08:10] <cables> bobli, not simple... but possible
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> mattycoze, if you use h323 it is really easy
[08:10] <unop> mattycoze, this should help you http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Asterisk
[08:10] <Jordan_U> cables: Autohide is off by default, and can be changed easily by right clicking the panel
[08:10] <Madpilot> bobli, the Ubuntu desktop by default has no icons on it, just the top & bottom taskbars
[08:10] <cables> bobli, not hard, but not obvious
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> mattycoze, just call a computer by their IP address
[08:10] <bobli> ah kk
[08:10] <pppoe_dude> mattycoze, for example, h323:192.168.0.5
[08:10] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, : i will restart now to see if works, thanks man!
[08:11] <ahave> is 5Gb enough space for a ubuntu instal + regular apps ?
[08:11] <cafuego_> ahave: yes
[08:11] <m_billybob> yeap
[08:11] <cables> Jordan_U, I know... but it's got too much of a delay and shows 6 pixels of it when its hidden, not just one. It can be changed in gconf, but the default autohide behavior shouldn't be so weird.
[08:11] <cafuego_> ahave: The default uses about 2GB
[08:11] <Madpilot> ahave, yes, but barely
[08:11] <unop> ahave,  thats very ify tho -- you'll probably need more later on
[08:11] <m_billybob> barely . .
[08:11] <Jordan_U> viniciusf: You don't need to fully restart, just restart X using ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:11] <bobli> can ubuntu run games that i installed into windows, like, just make shortcuts to the EXE's ?
[08:11] <ahave> i am partioning a 40Gb drive... windows is hungrier than linux
[08:11] <m_billybob> lol someone needs to learn the finer art of apt-get clean
[08:11] <cafuego_> bobli: Depends on the games, usually not.
[08:12] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, i know, but thanks again :)
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> ahave, how much ram do you have?
[08:12] <cafuego_> ahave: Give it 8GB, if you can, that'll give you enough storage space for files too.
[08:12] <BelialMkII> How can i find out what my dhcp server is from the command line
[08:12] <m_billybob> wine most definately will have to be used or whats it . cegda ?
[08:12] <mneptok> BelialMkII: sudo dhclient
[08:12] <Jordan_U> cables: Oh, I agree, I don't like the 3 pixels still showing either, somewhat defeats the purpouse
[08:12] <ahave> 740
[08:12] <mattycoze> ppoe_dude how ome it's gotta have the h323: bit infront of an ip address?
[08:12] <bobli> well guys, its 7:12 here, I THINK I BETTER GET TO BED :D
[08:12] <BelialMkII> cheers mneptok
[08:12] <cables> Jordan_U, I should submit a bug about that some time...
[08:12] <bobli> gnight, good day good, something...
[08:13] <bobli> thanks for the help :)
[08:13] <Madpilot> bobli, good luck, see you back here :)
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> mattycoze, yes
[08:13] <ahave> pppoe_dude: 740Mb of ram
[08:13] <AmaroqWolf> unop, once I've copied, I restart the browser right?
[08:13] <ahave> err, 768
[08:13] <TravisivarT> !twinview
[08:13] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:13] <ahave> ish
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> ahave, i would keep an extra 400-500MB of swap space too
[08:13] <ahave> pppoe_dude: could you define swap space?
[08:13] <cafuego_> ahave: Desktop box or laptop?
[08:14] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  yep, you must
[08:14] <ahave> laptop
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> ahave, you need a swap partition for linux in case your ram gets full
[08:14] <cafuego_> ahave: Give it 1GB of swap space, so you can suspend the machine.
[08:14] <mattycoze> pppoe_dude does ekiga connect to anything else other than just computers with ekiga installed?
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> ahave, you will have the option to select that at partition time
[08:14] <cafuego_> s/suspend/hibernate/
[08:14] <m_billybob> Edgy should install fine on  20GB partition, possibly even less, if you dont go apesh*t on installing EVERYTHING
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> mattycoze, yes any computer with SIP or h323 support
[08:14] <ahave> pppoe_dude: ah, ok
[08:14] <ahave> pppoe_dude: during the ubuntu install?
[08:14] <pppoe_dude> ahave, yes
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> ahave, when you partiton the disk, you will need a '/' partition, preferably a separate /home partition and a swap partition
[08:15] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, it didnt work, and now my keyboard layout is kinda strange
[08:15] <pppoe_dude> ahave, i would recommend 500mb for your swap... MORE if you are going to do any hibernating
[08:16] <AmaroqWolf> unop: hahaha!! I have 4 flashes in my about:plugins now
[08:16] <ahave> pppoe_dude: how about i give 22Gb for windows now.. then leave the rest for ubuntu?
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> ahave, if you want to do hibernation, make sure you have at least 768+500mb
[08:16] <samin> xmoto sux
[08:16] <samin> sorry
[08:16] <Jordan_U> viniciusf: Ok, in what was does it not work? does X start at all?
[08:16] <cafuego_> ahave: that'll be more than enough. You cna give Ubuntu less then that if you want.
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> ahave, sounds good
[08:16] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  thats not good tho -- firefox'll probably choose one version one time and another version another time, and that'll upset you -- so no more "ha ha" then :)
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> ahave, really depends on how much you want on your home partiton :_
[08:16] <pppoe_dude> *:)
[08:17] <ahave> tbo i dont know how much i will be using ubuntu... just trying it out
[08:17] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, no, i cant start x in any way with that settings
[08:17] <ahave> most of my needs atm are windows based
[08:17] <m_billybob> pppoe_dude: perhaps you should ask him what he plans on doing with said system ;)
[08:17] <cafuego_> ahave: have you played with the livecd yet?
[08:17] <pppoe_dude> ahave, if you're like most people here, you'll learn to love it :)
[08:17] <Jordan_U> viniciusf: What happens when you try to run: sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:17] <Jordan_U> ?
[08:17] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, let me see...
[08:17] <ahave> no, but i have done ubuntu installs in the past..
[08:17] <weijie902> the live cd is quite slow
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> ahave, nothing like a fresh clean install :)
[08:18] <weijie902> only good for testing and playing around
[08:18] <ahave> pppoe_dude: if i end up lovin it enough ill just dedicate the laptop to linux and build a new windows box
[08:18] <AmaroqWolf> I have 7.0 r69, 9.0 r31, flash movie player 0.4.12, and... oh, I guess it was just three. xD
[08:18] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, `FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory`
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> ahave, resizing partitions with gparted is easier than ever too
[08:18] <weijie902> pppoe_dude: what about data loss?
[08:18] <pppoe_dude> in case you decide to scrap the dose
[08:19] <ahave> pppoe_dude: yea? without having to start with a clean partition?
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> ahave, yep you can just delete the windows partitions and expand the ubuntu
[08:19] <m_billybob> you could even resize the partitio nlater, if you so choose
[08:19] <stoone> hi! who to report multiverse package dependency errors?
[08:19] <pppoe_dude> ahave, just make sure you arrange them nicely
[08:20] <weijie902> stoone: mabye the package manager
[08:20] <Jordan_U> viniciusf: Ok, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx.
[08:20] <ahave> pppoe_dude: define nicely?
[08:20] <weijie902> stoone: i mean the person
[08:20] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I have both flash 7 and flash 9 in about:plugins. They both say that the file is libflashplayer.so
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> ahave, |--swap--||--ubuntu space--||--home------||-------windows---------|
[08:20] <ahave> oh
[08:20] <weijie902> stoone: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:20] <stoone> weijie902: how i know ho is it?
[08:20] <pppoe_dude> ahave, then you can do: |--swap--||--ubuntu space--||--home--------------------------------|
[08:21] <ahave> pppoe_dude: if have just started the windows install first... have a already messed up the order?
[08:21] <pppoe_dude> ahave, i hope your screen is wide enough to appreciate my art :)
[08:21] <ahave> pppoe_dude: orshould i go back
[08:21] <stoone> weijie902: thx
[08:21] <Flannel> ahave: windows first is a good thing.
[08:21] <starz> aegh
[08:21] <ahave> pppoe_dude: heh, it is :)
[08:21] <weijie902> stoone: try bugzilla
[08:21] <m_billybob> pppoe_dude: mine is fear not
[08:21] <m_billybob> ;)
[08:21] <Madpilot> Flannel, no Windows at all is a better thing ;)
[08:21] <Flannel> ahave: but, install it to a small partition (or rather, install it to your eventual windows partition size, it's easier that way)
[08:21] <starz> ok im instlaling into som pos computer with edgy using alternate install cd as regular cd got the error about cdrom reading thingie
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> ahave, you can do it either way, just faster my way coz you dont have to move anything later
[08:22] <starz> anyway xorg is configged for ati but when its booting up
[08:22] <Flannel> Madpilot: not if your goal is "dual boot windows and ubuntu" ;)
[08:22] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  I have a sneaky suspicion that v7 comes from the firefox plugins folder (because thats what you reported before) and v9 comes from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[08:22] <starz> i get 0 video. cannot even get terminals past a certain point of boot
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> ahave, i am unsure if windows gives the option to change the location of a partition
[08:22] <ahave> but partition moving is possible?
[08:22] <starz> but i can boot into the rescue console
[08:22] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, sorry if i dont previously explained how the mess started (i dont speak english), i got nvidia beta drivers from the official site some months ago, and it was doing nice until an upgrade on the l-r-m that i made today. on the nvidia foruns sys that l-r-m should be uninstalled on ubuntu, or manually edit /etc/defaults/linux-restricted-modules to disabele_modules=nv
[08:22] <starz> any recommendations so i can figure wth is going on>?
[08:22] <Lord> i just got a look at my ubuntu partition in windows xp. where is the desktop folder? i expected to see it at /home/lordkeiden/Desktop Is it there and windows  driver not able to see it, or is Desktop a symlink to another folder?
[08:22] <pppoe_dude> ahave, ya but much smoother to just resize
[08:22] <Flannel> ahave: technically.  Not fun though.  You're better off partitioning first, installing to those pre-made paritions
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> ahave, if windows can't handle that, try creating a dummy partition for ubuntu in the beginning
[08:23] <pppoe_dude> ahave, and just don't use it til afterwards
[08:23] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I copied from the mozilla plugins to the firefox plugins, and told it to overwrite all.
[08:23] <ppcguy> hey all was on here the other day.. Havin some issues w/ MonoDevlop.. Any other alt's for .NET programing?
[08:23] <starz> Lord, you had it correct.
[08:23] <Flannel> Lord: no, that's where it is.  Could be a permissions thing.
[08:23] <starz> Flannel, a permission thing from windows?????
[08:23] <starz> lol
[08:23] <Jordan_U> viniciusf: I don't know anything about the Beta drivers, I would try getting help in #beryl as the people there are likely to be using the beta drivers
[08:23] <starz> Lord, what driver did you use ?
[08:24] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  is /usr/lib/firefox a link to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox?
[08:24] <AmaroqWolf> unop: I figured it should have overwritten 7 with 9, but if there are files in the plugins folder that depend on, that are different for 7 and 9, maybe that might be it?
[08:24] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I'll check
[08:24] <AWOSDev7360> Simple question.  How do I add a user to a group from the console?
[08:24] <viniciusf> Jordan_U, ok, thanks again
[08:24] <starz> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html <<--- mount ext3 partitions in windows
[08:24] <Flannel> AWOSDev7360: usermod
[08:24] <AWOSDev7360> Flannel, thank you!
[08:25] <AmaroqWolf> unop, no. It's not a link.
[08:25] <pppoe_dude> AWOSDev7360, also, adduser user:group
[08:25] <ahave> will it be easy to get ubuntu to connect to my home LAN, with windows workspace?
[08:25] <m_billybob> starz: better yet, apt-cache search Samba ;)
[08:25] <m_billybob> of course, that wouldnt be handy on a dual boot system . . .
[08:25] <otroean> Have just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and my username can't access the soundcard. Root user can.
[08:26] <pppoe_dude> ahave, what kinds of things u mean? like files/printer sharing?
[08:26] <starz> m_billybob, the dual boot system being exactly what those drivers are for.......................
[08:26] <AmaroqWolf> unop, mozilla-firefox is a link however, to firefox.
[08:26] <starz> XD
[08:26] <m_billybob> ;)
[08:26] <ahave> pppoe_dude: files and printers, yes
[08:26] <m_billybob> im always thinking something along those lines
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> ahave, that shouldn't bee too much of a problem with Samba
[08:27] <starz> lol
[08:27] <pppoe_dude> !samba>ahave
[08:27] <starz> !samba
[08:27] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:27] <Jordan_U> otroean: You need to add your user to the "audio" group
[08:27] <starz> btw
[08:27] <starz> pppoe_dude, did linus chill the heck out on talking smakk about teh dude who invented samba?
[08:27] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  hmm.. maybe flash7 is in from your user folder -- ~/.mozilla/firefox/..something
[08:27] <starz> did that whole bitsomething thing get solved somehow?
[08:28] <nrot_> ok so, syslogd is running on my pc, my routers syslog feature is pointed at my pc's ip addy, so why am i not getting information from the router..?
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> starz no idea
[08:28] <starz> i mean a thousand projects with metadata that they couldnt get b/c they have the free client?
[08:28] <starz> thats fuxxored.
[08:28] <m_billybob> SWAT, gee why didnt i think of that, and here i was messing around wit hthat hard to use thing 'ssh' . . .
[08:28] <ahave> pppoe_dude: was about to ask what samba was, thanks
[08:28] <starz> no other way to put it unfortunately.
[08:28] <pppoe_dude> ahave, ubotu should've sent you a message
[08:28] <Lord> starext2ifs driver. lets you assign a drive letter to a ext2 or 3 partition.
[08:28] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  locate libflashplayer.so  ought to find every location
[08:29] <ahave> pppoe_dude: yes, thanks
[08:30] <unop> nrot_,  did you get my suggestion earlier about rebooting the router or doing something on it to cause it to trigger some syslog-relevant messages?
[08:30] <pdowling> hi all, anywone in here might be able to help with a PostgreSQL 7.4 configuration problem?
[08:30] <AmaroqWolf> unop, it's in six places.
[08:31] <nrot_> yea unop, tried it, no luck
[08:31] <pramz> pdowling: just ask the question
[08:31] <pppoe_dude> pdowling, try #postgresql
[08:31] <starz> starz ok im instlaling into som pos computer with edgy using alternate install cd as regular cd got the error about cdrom reading thingie /// starz anyway xorg is configged for ati but when its booting up /// starz i get 0 video. cannot even get terminals past a certain point of boot /// starz but i can boot into the rescue console /// starz any recommendations so i can figure wth is going on>?
[08:31] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  if i were you -- i would delete each instance - remove every flash package and install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:31] <AmaroqWolf> okay
[08:31] <unop> nrot_,  ok, you got a firewall running?
[08:31] <AmaroqWolf> Is there a simple command to do so, or do I have to do them all by hand? :P
[08:32] <nrot_> not currently, i shut it off
[08:32] <pdowling> i get the following error: FATAL:  missing or erroneous pg_hba.conf file and a suggestion to see server logs
[08:32] <pdowling> where are the server logs loosely referred to
[08:32] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  for i in `locate file.so`; do sudo rm $i; done
[08:32] <AmaroqWolf> haha
[08:33] <aalhamad> to enter a hex key . we start with 0x right?
[08:33] <unop> nrot_,  hmm .. was the firewall turned off when you rebooted the router?
[08:33] <aalhamad> 0x(rest of the numbers)(
[08:33] <Lord> in the /home/lordkeiden folder i only see 3 bash scripts. hmmmm....
[08:33] <zak__> aalhamad: not sure what you're talking about, exactly, but that's usually how hex is specified
[08:33] <nrot_> yes unop its been off ever since i started trouble shooting this
[08:34] <aalhamad> in network conection
[08:34] <aalhamad> wireless...
[08:34] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I copy/pasted what you typed, and now it's just got me prompted with an >
[08:34] <unop> nrot_,  ok, could be something in your syslogd.conf probably
[08:35] <AmaroqWolf> or do I have to add "done" to it?
[08:35] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  done was a necessary keyword there :)
[08:35] <AmaroqWolf> xD oops
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> aalhamad, i think you just type hex directly
[08:35] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  you should just be able to type done now and finish the command
[08:35] <nrot_> unop any clue where to start looking, its a default install as of now
[08:35] <aalhamad> ok thanx
[08:35] <starz> yueha
[08:35] <starz> yeah
[08:36] <AmaroqWolf> er... ohshyt
[08:36] <starz> when it goes to load X
[08:36] <starz> it seems to die.
[08:36] <AmaroqWolf> I hope there was nothing named file.so
[08:36] <AmaroqWolf> lol
[08:36] <starz> i dont friggan get it
[08:36] <starz> vga driver is set for ati already ~_____________________~
[08:36] <AmaroqWolf> unop, lol I hope there was nothing named file.so. I forgot to change what you had me copy.
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> starz, wanna paste bin your logs and xorg.conf?
[08:37] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  ooo, quite unlikely -- if incase you can't login on next reboot, you know why (just kidding) :))
[08:38] <AmaroqWolf> xD heehee
[08:38] <unop> nrot_,  i cant seeem to find anything in syslogd.conf either -- the next thing i would do is verify that syslogd is listening on udp port 514 and that it is indeed accessible from an external source
[08:39] <fotoflo> can ubuntu use webmin?
[08:39] <otroean> Added my user to Audio group but still no soundcard...
[08:39] <unop> fotoflo,  sure
[08:39] <SWAT> m_billybob, ssh is nice :)
[08:39] <m_billybob> lol
[08:39] <unop> fotoflo,  but webmin's always been quite a security hazard
[08:40] <fotoflo> unop: how do i install it? get it running?
[08:40] <fotoflo> unop: ill remove it after everythings setup
[08:40] <nrot_> (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
[08:40] <nrot_>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
[08:40] <nrot_> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:514             0.0.0.0:*                          -
[08:40] <nrot_> bah sorry
[08:40] <unop> fotoflo,  ohh, cant be sure -- refer to a howto
[08:40] <AmaroqWolf> unop, that got rid of both of the flashes. xD
[08:40] <m_billybob> SWAT: i guess i RANG when i was reffering to SWAT for Samba ? :/
[08:40] <nrot_> but yes, syslogd is running on 514
[08:40] <m_billybob> ewps
[08:40] <fotoflo> unop: i did an apt-get install and no luck, and its not in synaptic
[08:41] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  that was intended .. now remove the all flash packages and install flasplugin-nonfree
[08:41] <AmaroqWolf> I did
[08:41] <AmaroqWolf> er, all flash packages?
[08:41] <AmaroqWolf> unop, how do I know what flash packages I have installed?
[08:42] <AmaroqWolf> er, what to remove or whatever
[08:42] <m_billybob> SWAT: i have a friend, on another server, whenever i say his nickname, his blackberry goes off, I hope that wasnt the case here :/
[08:42] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[08:43] <unop> fotoflo,  i cant find it in the repos either -- guess it must be installed from the tarball provided by the original authors
[08:44] <unop> fotoflo,  ahh but here's a .deb for debian/ubuntu - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/webadmin/webmin_1.320_all.deb
[08:45] <AmaroqWolf> unop, something's going on. I can't open a terminal.
[08:45] <fotoflo> unop: thanks i found it too :-)
[08:45] <makuseru> i have a question, im going to dual boot on a iMac (osx) with ubuntu, OSX has already been installed for quite sometime, when im installing ubuntu and chose to partition off some space for ubuntu, it wont delete my osx will it? and if it wont is the slide for the size refering to how big i want this new partition?
[08:45] <mneptok> Webmin?
[08:45] <mneptok> did somebody say Webmin?
[08:46] <unop> mneptok,  yep (unfortunately)
[08:46] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I can't open a terminal or the system monitor.
[08:47] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  errm, thats odd -- do you have a terminal already open?
[08:47] <AmaroqWolf> I did, but I closed it to see if that was the problem.
[08:47] <AmaroqWolf> unop: maybe there was a file.so lol
[08:48] <mneptok> AmaroqWolf: did you change your shell, or change the config files for your shell?
[08:48] <rredd4> AmaroqWolf  did you try cntrl alt f2?
[08:48] <fotoflo__> arg the taiwan mirror sucks!
[08:48] <unop> AmaroqWolf, errm, CTRL+ALT+F1 should take you to a tty -- you can log in there and use it like a terminal
[08:48] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  perhaps all you need to do is logout and log back in
[08:48] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  yep, file.so it seems :)
[08:50] <unop> it gets eerie in here when no one speaks -- eerier are the people who come in the room but never ever speak
[08:50] <poningru> hmm
[08:50] <poningru> not really
[08:51] <rredd4> unop may amaroq... does not know the way back from cntrl alt fx..
[08:51] <chable> !ati
[08:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:51] <rredd4> may = mabe
[08:51] <rredd4> maybe
[08:51] <makuseru> i have a question, im going to dual boot on a iMac (osx) with ubuntu, OSX has already been installed for quite sometime, when im installing ubuntu and chose to partition off some space for ubuntu, it wont delete my osx will it? and if it wont is the slide for the size refering to how big i want this new partition?
[08:52] <unop> rredd4,  ooo, ouch, probably .. i should have mentioned that
[08:52] <tibi> hi
[08:52] <tibi> I have a problem instaling ubuntu (kubuntu)
[08:52] <chable> hi tibi
[08:52] <tibi> is freezing at step 5 of 6
[08:52] <chable> say the problem to the channel and somebody will help u
[08:53] <tibi> when I choose the "edit partition table manulay" <- there is freezing
[08:53] <Cryoniq> Hi :) I am running Ubuntu desktop 6.10. I was missing Open Office in the menus and noticed it is installed already when going synaptic. I missed something? How do I start open office apps easily?
[08:54] <chable> hmm
[08:54] <chable> ubotu knows everything
[08:54] <zak__> makuseru: i don't think there are enough ubuntu + mac users around at the moment - it will probably depend on how you set up the partitions, and - assuming you haven't already partitioned - wether or not ubuntu can resize OSX partitions [i don't know - i don't have a mac] 
[08:54] <chable> but u need to know how to ask
[08:54] <nielz_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu but in 'Prepare mount points' it's complaining my pre-existing ext2 /boot partition is xfs while it really is not, I remember reading about this before and I googled the error but it only returned two results and no answers
[08:54] <fotoflo__> i wish i had installed webmin 2 weeks ago!
[08:54] <fotoflo__> its SOOOO sweet!
[08:54] <noodles12> what does this mean in vmware ? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":1.0".
[08:54] <noodles12>  ?
[08:54] <rredd4> tibi  did you check the integrity of the cd before using it to install kubuntu?
[08:54] <chable> hey guys any of u can help tibi with his issue ?
[08:55] <chable> hmm yeah that may be one of the causes
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> tibi, did u do a memtest?
[08:55] <chable> tibi u have an option on start
[08:55] <SWAT> m_billybob, don't like blackberry's, but it's a fun story though :)
[08:55] <tibi> my PC: asus a8n-e, 1 hdd MAXTOR sata 200G, 2G corsair, amd athlon64 3200
[08:55] <chable> like Check disk integrity
[08:55] <pppoe_dude> tibi, did you check the CD for defects?
[08:55] <constant_> can any1 help me with a X11 prob?
[08:55] <mhiku> which is better to install for tgetent? ncurses curses termlib termcap terminfo ?? which one is newer?
[08:55] <c9s> what software I can draw a graph with time line?
[08:55] <tibi> hdd is good, same for the cd
[08:56] <tibi> i have instaled from this cd at may laptop and is good
[08:56] <pppoe_dude> tibi, memtest
[08:56] <tibi> may dvd drive is also OK
[08:56] <tibi> it is somthing eith my configuration ........
[08:56] <tibi> no memtest too
[08:56] <tibi> I already done that
[08:56] <tibi> one more thing
[08:56] <tibi> I cannot install any linux distro if I not desable sata 3 and 4 from BIOS
[08:57] <tibi> is an asus a8n-e bug
[08:57] <chable> heh
[08:57] <tibi> but with ubuntu-kubuntu I cannot install at all....
[08:57] <c9s> anyone can tell which software I can use to draw graphics with time line ? :)
[08:57] <chable> is there any insalling option in safe graphic mode ?
[08:57] <chable> installing* even
[08:57] <chable> i forgot if it is or no
[08:58] <Nuked> anyone know how I can compile psi svn for edgy?
[08:58] <tibi> is ther a command line to install the distro automaticly, bypassing the gdm-kdm ????
[08:58] <c9s> Nuked: apt-build install svn
[08:59] <c9s> Nuked: apt-get install apt-build
[08:59] <Nuked> c9s, I didnt understand that
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> tibi, yes
[08:59] <nrot_> arghhhhhhhhh
[08:59] <nrot_> what the hell is wrog with syslog-ng
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> !alternative
[08:59] <Pengu1n> totem-gstreamer eat 100% cpu:(
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <nrot_> i hate it
[08:59] <c9s> Nuked: apt-build will automatic compile which you want to compile
[08:59] <nrot_> i hate ubuntu right now
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> tibi, download the alternative CD
[09:00] <nrot_> i remove sysklogd, and install syslog-ng
[09:00] <constant__> I cant seem to remember where a file with a screens and their specs are. can someone help me...?
[09:00] <c9s> Nuked: *automatically
[09:00] <nrot_> and its still acting like sysklogd is sstilll here for some fucking reason
[09:00] <ushaba> hey everyone, I have a simple abiword question if anyone is familiar with the program
[09:00] <Nuked> c9s what level of optimization...
[09:01] <c9s> Nuked: when you install apt-build , it will ask you :)
[09:01] <chable> anyone knows how do i reinstall GRUB ?
[09:01] <chable> i installed vista
[09:01] <unop> !grub
[09:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:01] <chable> and i cannot boot into my ubuntu now
[09:01] <ushaba> I'm not sure where to look to answer question, so I figure someone in here might know about abiword...
[09:01] <c9s> Nuked: and you can choose what cpu
[09:01] <Nuked> c9s I can compile it myself, but I have issues with qt4
[09:01] <pppoe_dude> ushaba, ask away
[09:02] <ushaba> alright
[09:02] <c9s> Nuked: what issue?
[09:02] <Marty> I have a fun question for you guys. I have ubuntu edgy running with beryl and nvidia drivers. My usb mouse randomly stops working. i have to change ports for it to work again. anyone have any input?
[09:02] <ushaba> I just want to know if there's a way to make arrows like those in microsoft word
[09:02] <unop> ushaba, ask the room the question -- someone might know it, if not wait a few minutes and ask it again
[09:02] <ushaba> basically, just drawing lines from one thing to another
[09:02] <ushaba> so if I'm drawing hierarchical structures (linguistics work...)
[09:02] <nielz_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu but in 'Prepare mount points' it's complaining my pre-existing ext2 /boot partition is xfs while it really is not, I remember reading about this before and I googled the error but it only returned two results and no answers
[09:02] <ushaba> (homework)
[09:02] <pppoe_dude> ushaba, might wanna consider: dia, inkscape
[09:02] <AmaroqWolf> Guess what... I can't log into any sessions now.
[09:02] <Nuked> c9s, Verifying Qt 4 build environment ... fail
[09:02] <ushaba> I can connect things with clever arrows
[09:02] <rredd4> what other programs can i use besides xmms for streamtuner?
[09:02] <ushaba> it's mainly text in the homewortk
[09:02] <ushaba> and I need ipa input
[09:03] <ushaba> alas, openoffice hates ipa at present
[09:03] <ushaba> haha
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> I'm using the failsafe terminal mode.
[09:03] <unop> AmaroqWolf, hmm, what was the last thing you ever did before this happened?
[09:03] <ushaba> I guess abiword has a bunch of plugins
[09:03] <ushaba> all I need is something that lets me draw on the screen, I guess
[09:03] <c9s> Nuked: or .. you can use apt-install build-dep subversion
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> there was a plugin called libaudiofile.so
[09:03] <ahave> sheesh, takes awhile. huh?
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> it can't load it
[09:03] <AmaroqWolf> lol that file.so rm screwed me
[09:04] <chable> lol i misstped a character
[09:04] <Nuked> c9s, my problem is not obtaining the source, its the qt4 that is the problem
[09:04] <chable> this is why grub isnt installed
[09:04] <chable> brb
[09:04] <unop> ushaba,  you can use dia to draw lines and arrows -- although you must save the file as a picture to import into abiword later
[09:04] <Nuked> can I compile qt4 apps on ubuntu?
[09:04] <c9s> Nuked: it will install the requirement of building
[09:04] <Madpilot> ushaba, try Inkscape, it's a full drawing/vector art app
[09:04] <ushaba> hmm
[09:04] <ushaba> I like inkscape for art
[09:04] <c9s> Nuked: yes
[09:04] <ushaba> but I'm just wondering if there's a simple draw function in abiword
[09:04] <ushaba> it is very basic functionality, just lines
[09:04] <ushaba> straight ones
[09:04] <ushaba> haha
[09:04] <ushaba> that I want
[09:04] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  as much as you take it lightly .. thats very odd behaviour there
[09:04] <AmaroqWolf> unop, that accidental file.so rm screwed me over. xD I can't lov into any sessions, because libaudiofile.so or something like that isn't there.
[09:05] <AmaroqWolf> *log
[09:05] <Nuked> c9s man I dont think you are understanding me
[09:05] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  is that what gnome says when you try and log in
[09:05] <unop> ?
[09:05] <AmaroqWolf> yeah
[09:05] <c9s> Nuked: all right :P
[09:05] <AmaroqWolf> It says the session lasted less than ten seconds
[09:05] <ushaba> ah
[09:05] <AmaroqWolf> and shows me a log of something, and the last line says that it can't find that.
[09:05] <ushaba> I had that error when x was messed up once...
[09:05] <unop> AmaroqWolf,   sudo aptitude install libaudiofile-dev
[09:05] <Nuked> I want to build psi 0.11dev, and I need qt4 to do it, but I installed qt4dev, and its not compiling
[09:05] <constant__> dexconf dude
[09:06] <AmaroqWolf> sudo aptitude install libaudiofile-dev
[09:06] <AmaroqWolf> er oops
[09:06] <Nuked> c9s,  I want to build psi 0.11dev, and I need qt4 to do it, but I installed qt4dev, and its not compiling
[09:06] <ushaba> I'd reinstall ubuntu desktop
[09:06] <ushaba> nothing like overkill
[09:06] <AmaroqWolf> xD how do I exit this IRC program?
[09:06] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  /exit
[09:06] <AmaroqWolf> xD thank you
[09:06] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  or /quit
[09:07] <unop> .o0( should tell him about backgrounding too )
[09:07] <c9s> Nuked: did you compile the debug library of qt ? :)
[09:07] <tibi> so, alternative cd it is
[09:08] <Nuked> c9s I didnt compile qt
[09:08] <c9s> Nuked: :P ,  I haven't install or compile with qt on ubuntu, only on windows :P
[09:09] <c9s> Nuked: building qt program have to setup the env.
[09:09] <Marty> Question. my usb mouse stops working randomly. I have to disconnect/reconnect it to get it working. anyone have any ideas?
[09:09] <c9s> Nuked: check out the qt official site
[09:10] <tibi> any link fro alternative cd ?
[09:10] <tibi> please ..
[09:10] <ushaba> does it work if you replug the mouse in while running the desktop environment?
[09:10] <Marty> yes
[09:10] <constant__> do and and find out
[09:10] <ushaba> that's really strange...
[09:10] <Marty> yea i know
[09:10] <pppoe_dude> tibi, same place just choose other download options
[09:10] <Marty> i have tried 2 different mice
[09:10] <ushaba> do you know what event the mouse is on?
[09:10] <Marty> both with the same results.
[09:10] <pppoe_dude> martibs, sounds like hardware
[09:10] <tibi> and i guess is a bug with the ubuntu-kubuntu installer.... with the ati driver ..... there si no such module
[09:10] <ushaba> and what mouse driver you are using?
[09:10] <c9s> Nuked: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1/install-x11.html
[09:10] <pppoe_dude> Marty, ^
[09:10] <Marty> i'm realtivly new to this. how can i check.
[09:10] <tibi> any link for alternative cd ?
[09:11] <pppoe_dude> Marty, did you try different ports?
[09:11] <ushaba> hold on
[09:11] <Marty> yes
[09:11] <ushaba> what country are you in?
[09:11] <Marty> usa
[09:11] <Marty> for reference it did it on 6.06 as well as 6.10 currently i'm runing 6.10
[09:12] <nrot_> sad when a 20 year old unix daemon gets smoked by a windows app that was probably wrote in 20 minutes.
[09:12] <ushaba> which state?
[09:12] <nrot_> thats why linux will never be huge
[09:12] <Marty> ushaba: wa
[09:12] <unop> nrot_,  what app/daemon are you referring to?
[09:12] <nrot_> syslog vs WallWatcher
[09:12] <ushaba> http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/edgy/
[09:12] <ushaba> that's uc berkeley
[09:12] <pppoe_dude> emacs smokes windows
[09:13] <hellmet> What should one do when he changes the master drive?
 what kind bru
[09:13] <mneptok> ushaba: that's Santa Barbara
[09:13] <nrot_> ?
[09:13] <unop> Marty,  check /var/log/dmesg for any messages relating to usb/uhci or mice .. or in general, clues :)
[09:13] <ushaba> eh, possibly...
[09:13] <ushaba> haha
[09:13] <YangYin> does anyone have a laptop with a Sigmatel 9200 sound card?
[09:13] <ushaba> either way
[09:13] <ushaba> it's from the site
[09:13] <hellmet> I changed the master from DVDDrive to HDD
[09:13] <mneptok> ushaba: not possibly. definitely. ;)
[09:13] <hellmet> and then the computer does not BOOT
[09:13] <nrot_> constant__, what are you asking?
[09:13] <tibi> peace!
[09:13] <ushaba> http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[09:14] <YangYin> does anyone have a laptop with a Sigmatel 9200 sound card?
[09:14] <tibi> && 10x
[09:14] <ushaba> right?
 "my logging app is better than yours. mwhahaha!"
[09:14] <Marty> unop: it looks clean. looks like all the startup stuff. mounts. etc.
[09:14] <pppoe_dude> nrot_, sad when microsoft spends $6 billion developing a defective operating system that will be garbage in a few years if not now
[09:14] <hellmet> !master
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about master - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <hellmet> !boot
[09:14] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:14] <unop> nrot_,  things are peculiar in the windows world -- and i've never heard of this wallwatcher thing -- sound like "weight-watcher" or something -- outside of windows, syslog is used extensively .. and is almost 100% ubiquitous
[09:14] <YangYin> pppoe_dude: my laptop came with vista... and it sucks
[09:14] <AmaroqWolf> I got the same error as last time. "x-session-manager: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:14] <YangYin> does anyone have a laptop with a Sigmatel 9200 sound card?
[09:14] <ushaba> no for me about the laptop sound card
[09:15] <nrot_> wallwatcher logs info from syslogd capable routers, like wrt54g
[09:15] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  does it give you a path for that missing file?
[09:15] <nrot_> which was DESIGNED to work with unix boxes
[09:15] <AmaroqWolf> No.
 well syslogd isnt WROTE for that...
[09:15] <YangYin> ushaba: thanks im trying to figure out if ubuntu works with my sound card cause it doesn't on any of the other distros I've tried
[09:15] <unop> nrot_,  so it's a syslog daemon then
[09:15] <YangYin> and are currently using
[09:15] <AmaroqWolf> unop, no path
[09:15] <hellmet> Can someone help me with my BOOT problem?
[09:15] <nrot_> yes unop
[09:15] <nrot_> but so far, double click it, opens right up, good to go
[09:16] <nrot_> 6 fucking hours of messing with syslogd and syslog-ng
[09:16] <nrot_> and NO results.
[09:16] <nrot_> at all
[09:16] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I can't even use failsafe gnome session.
[09:16] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, which problem?
[09:16] <nrot_> whatsoever
[09:16] <kraut> moin
[09:16] <pppoe_dude> !language nrot_
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language nrot_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <pppoe_dude> !language | nrot_
[09:16] <ubotu> nrot_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:16] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: Well, I changed my Master from DVD Rom to HDD, and now the computer won't boot
[09:16] <nrot_> well w/e
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, u checked BIOS?
[09:17] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: it stops @ "Waiting for Root"
[09:17] <hellmet> yea
 Windows is "eaiser" than linux in general
[09:17] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  ok, back to the command line (press CTRL+Z in this irc to background it .. fg when you want to return) .. updatedb; locate libaudiofile.so
[09:17] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: XP loads fine
[09:17] <AmaroqWolf> I'm in failsafe terminal mode. Is there a way to open another terminal in here? This terminal takes up one tiny area of the screen.
[09:17] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, oh gotcha
[09:17] <AmaroqWolf> oh okay
[09:17] <nrot_> this is 3rd consecutive day of messing with this, and its been nothing but a headache, im seriously on the edgle of a nervous breakdown because of this POS.
[09:17] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: kool, so what cud be the prob.?
[09:18] <unop> nrot_,  so has wallwatcher had better luck with the router?
[09:18] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, maybe the harddisk lettering changed
 what were you actually trying to do with syslogd?
[09:18] <unop> nrot_,  we all have those days -- and usually its just something very small we have overlooked
[09:18] <nrot_> get it to read the stuff from the router, like its meant to
[09:18] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: yea.. It shud have changed to hda from hdb.. I tried editing the fstab.. but no use..
[09:19] <nrot_> yes, it has
[09:19] <nrot_> its sad, i double click wallwatcher
[09:19] <nrot_> boom, its working no problem
[09:19] <yommb> Morning all :)
[09:19] <unop> nrot_,  and picking everything up from the router?
[09:19] <Marty> in ref to my mouse i had a tail -f on /var/log/dmesg when the mouse stopped working again and it didn't see anything. any other ideas?
[09:19] <hellmet> pppoe_dude:  When I put the DVD Rom back as Master .. it loads fine EVEN with the changed HDD letter in the fstab. It still loads as hdb instead of hda
[09:19] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, sorry im no expert with harddisks etc
[09:20] <nrot_> i have put 20+ hours into something that shoudl take no longer than 5 minutes, and made no advances on it, i had it get info from the router for 5 minutes, then it quit, for no reason. at all.
[09:20] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: hmm... OK.. thanks for trying :-)
[09:20] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, what are you trying to do?
 okay i can't say anything, to me syslogd is a demon running silenty in the background doing nothing than catch kernel outputs...
[09:20] <AmaroqWo1f> I couldn't get back into this..
[09:20] <nrot_> yes, unop  it picked everything up, ever witha  firewall, just had to set it exempt
[09:20] <AmaroqWo1f> f9 just made a beep sound
[09:20] <hellmet> pppoe_dude:  My DVD Rom is giving problems, I'd like to work on my computer while the ROM is getting repaired
[09:20] <ahave> i am about to do the ubuntu install, and decided to test the CD for defects... i found 1 checksum error. is this bad?
[09:20] <nrot_> syslogd -r is for remote, it says so in the .conf
[09:21] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, and you cant keep the harddisk slave?
[09:21] <nrot_> but, my linux box, with no firewall, stock install, fresh install of syslogd
[09:21] <gradin> ok i've got a problem, is there a way to make my syslog output more verbose into the log file?
[09:21] <nrot_> nothing works. at all.
[09:21] <AmaroqWo1f> oh okay
[09:21] <AmaroqWo1f> it was fg
[09:21] <AmaroqWo1f> well, it now says it's in...
[09:21] <brombomb> I just ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on the ubunut server, and I don have any aps in the application menu, any ideas?
[09:21] <gradin> cuz my box has been repeatedly locking up ever 12 hours or so and i would really like to identify fthe problem
[09:21] <brombomb> Or how to bring up a terminal?
[09:21] <hellmet> pppoe_dude:  Well, the computer current config is as Master:: DVD  Slave :: HDD
[09:22] <unop> nrot_,  what was the last command of the router logged by syslog -- there might be indication of why logs are now suspended
[09:22] <AmaroqWo1f> /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so
[09:22] <gradin> brombomb: are you using kde or gnome?
[09:22] <hellmet> pppoe_dude:  When I remove DVD ROM and put HDD as Master, the computer can't read the HDD(Ubuntu I mean)
, oh well, if using windows floats ur boat, enjoy
[09:22] <brombomb> gradin: gnome
[09:22] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0
[09:22] <nrot_> nothing, it just logged Torn-WRT, busy box, etc
[09:22] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, why not keep it slave?
[09:22] <nrot_> nothing out of hte ordinary
[09:22] <gradin> brombomb: ah sorry can't help ya then...
[09:23] <pppoe_dude> or does it stop working if its only the harddisk inside? hellmet
[09:23] <nrot_> constant__, no, it doesnt float my boat, thats why i have spent 20 hours working on this. because i want it to work. but its gonna push me back, as i do not have time nor energy to continue messing with it.
[09:23] <gradin> does anyboy know how to increase the verbose of the syslog?
[09:24] <hellmet> pppoe_dude:  well, I didn't try putting it as slave.. coz. then the BIOS would be looking for the missing master..
, i understand your problem, the same goes for a lot of things in linux. it just takes too long to setup and configure. and you have read a 400page howto and a 500page manual just to get it up and running
[09:25] <pppoe_dude> hellmet, ive done slave only before
[09:25] <pppoe_dude> but maybe my memory is failing
[09:25] <kupesoft> I'm having trouble playing DVDs - I've installed libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2.
[09:25] <hellmet> pppoe_dude:  Ohh, well, then is there some specific setting required within the BIOS?
[09:25] <unop> nrot_,  one another thing we havent really ruled out -- are you sure the messages arent being logged in any other of the files under /var/log ?
[09:25] <kupesoft> They simply won't play,
[09:25] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: hmm.
[09:26] <pppoe_dude> no idea hellmet sorry
[09:26] <AmaroqWolf> unop, It showed me as having that file, when I did that. But it still has the same error.
[09:26] <hellmet> pppoe_dude: oh k.. its fine. thank you
[09:27] <melancholytron> howdy all
[09:27] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  showing as having which file? libaudiofile.so or libaudiofile.so.0
[09:27] <unop> ?
[09:27] <AmaroqWolf> libaudiofile.so
[09:28] <melancholytron> i was wondering if anyone could help with a wifi issue?
[09:28] <AmaroqWolf> why does it need an .so.0?
[09:28] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  well yea, obviously that exists :)
[09:29] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  errm, because in one of your error messages you said that file was missing
[09:29] <ahave> pppoe_dude: still around?
[09:29] <kane77> anybody knows of a program (script) that would scan the ftp for files (changes) and then export it into file (which would then be parsed into mysql database.. but I can do that in php...)??
[09:29] <AmaroqWolf> Yes, that is the file that the error said. But I'm curious as to why it needs that rathar than just a .so
[09:29] <felixhummel> hi
[09:29] <felixhummel> how do I restart x11 when ctrl+alt+backspace does not work any more?
[09:29] <pppoe_dude> ahave, kinda
[09:29] <ahave> pppoe_dude: i am about to make the ubuntu partition and dont know where to mount it?
[09:29] <pppoe_dude> ahave, whats up
[09:30] <felixhummel> there was a console command, but I forgot.
[09:30] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys will the ubuntu edgy live cd restore grub on a debian install
[09:30] <nrot_> i have read every man page i can get my hands on dealing with anything REMOTELY SIMILAR to this pile of crap. it worked at one point in time, then decided to quit for no apparent reason, with no warning, or explanation.
[09:30] <nrot_> i need valium or something, my nerves are shot.
[09:30] <ahave> mount the root system?
[09:30] <pppoe_dude> ahave, system partition: /, other partiton /home
[09:30] <pppoe_dude> ahave, swap doesnt need to be mounted
[09:30] <nrot_> .
[09:30] <raychel> hello
 I got the same error as last time. "x-session-manager: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:30] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  see now ^^
[09:30] <Marty> easy question [probably]  when using wine emulation is there a way to have it run on top of the gnome panels to emulate full screen mode?
[09:31] <AmaroqWolf> unop, would it be possible to make a copy of libaudiofile.so named libaudiofile.so.0? Would that work?
[09:31] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys will the ubuntu edgy live cd restore grub on a debian install
[09:31] <ushaba> you can change the settings with wineconf
[09:31] <ushaba> in the terminal
[09:31] <hellmet> Is there a way to access other drives of the Host partition from a Virtualised OS?
[09:31] <ushaba> and have it run full screen
[09:31] <nrot_> unop, what was the command to grep all files in a folder ?
[09:31] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  sudo ln -s libaudiofile.so libaudiofile.so.0
[09:31] <ushaba> and stop applications from leaving the window
[09:31] <ahave> pppoe_dude: it is saying 'No root file system'
[09:31] <pppoe_dude> ahave, you need to have a partition mounted on '/'
[09:31] <unop> nrot_,  sudo grep -inHR 'keyword' /path/to/folder/*
[09:32] <pppoe_dude> ahave, are you using LiveCD install?
[09:32] <ahave> pppoe_dude: i think...
[09:32] <AmaroqWolf> ln?
[09:32] <ahave> pppoe_dude: i thought it was the boot CD install
[09:32] <unop> nrot_,  i also found this -- check the second section about network aware syslog - http://www.aboutdebian.com/syslog.htm
[09:32] <hellmet>  Is there a way to access other drives of the Host partition from a Virtualised OS?
[09:32] <pppoe_dude> ahave, are you in gnome or in a blue-environment?
[09:32] <AmaroqWolf> I have to cd to the dir first right?
[09:32] <ahave> pppoe_dude: but it brought up a gnome gui
[09:33] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  yep .. or use the full path in the command
[09:33] <ahave> pppoe_dude: do i need to dl the blue-env install version?
[09:33] <ushaba> aiya
[09:33] <pppoe_dude> ahave, k... after partitioning, it will ask you where to install
[09:33] <ushaba> gotta run
[09:33] <ushaba> adios
[09:33] <pppoe_dude> ahave, no
[09:33] <pppoe_dude> ahave, it will ask you where to mount the partitions
[09:33] <unop> brb 2 minutes
[09:33] <ahave> pppoe_dude: how do i go about partitioning? it went strainght to mount points for the file system
[09:33] <pppoe_dude> ahave, you need to select the right partitions and make them mount to '/' and '/home'
[09:33] <AmaroqWolf> um, what was that directory again? can someone scroll up and tell me what I said it was? lol.
[09:34] <pppoe_dude> ahave, did you go through the partitioning step?
[09:34] <pppoe_dude> ahave, it should ask you to auto partition or manually partition
[09:34] <ahave> pppoe_dude: yes. i didnt see the 'new*' button
[09:34] <AmaroqWolf> or I could just use that command to list it again
[09:34] <ahave> pppoe_dude: i think i am back on track now..
[09:34] <AmaroqWolf> whatever command that was
[09:34] <pppoe_dude> ahave, ok
[09:34] <imme> my 6.10 installer doesn't get beyond step1, what can I do?
[09:34] <ahave> pppoe_dude: thanks :)
[09:34] <nrot_> Feb  8 00:57:37 Torn-WRT -- MARK --
[09:34] <nrot_>  in /var/log/syslog
[09:34] <pppoe_dude> ahave, no prob
[09:34] <nrot_> but thats all it says
[09:34] <brombomb> where do I find display settings besides background? (gnome)
[09:35] <nrot_> and nothing before it, for it to MARK on
[09:35] <ahave> pppoe_dude: what type of file system?
[09:35] <imme> brombomb: What display-settings?
[09:35] <ahave> pppoe_dude: ext3?
[09:35] <pppoe_dude> brombomb, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <pppoe_dude> ahave, yes
[09:35] <pppoe_dude> ahave, and one swap
[09:35] <brombomb> monitor resolution?
[09:35] <pppoe_dude> brombomb, screen res in preferences
[09:35] <AmaroqWolf> unop, what was that command to list the file's directory again?
[09:35] <ahave> pppoe_dude: do i need to bother with preceding/following space?
[09:35] <zak__> brombomb: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[09:36] <ahave> pppoe_dude: use default 1g?
[09:36] <pppoe_dude> ahave, are you doin it like i said before?
[09:36] <brombomb> I dont have preferences under System
[09:36] <ahave> pppoe_dude: i think
[09:36] <pppoe_dude> ahave, linux first then windows?
[09:36] <pppoe_dude> ahave, on the partition table
[09:36] <Marty> what other mouse drivers are available for testing. do i just change my xorg.conf Option "driver"?
[09:36] <nrot_> that was a half hour ago
[09:36] <ahave> pppoe_dude: oh, no. by the time you told me it was too late. i am windows then linux
[09:36] <nrot_> why did it put one log in, a half hour ago
[09:36] <nrot_> just out of the blue
[09:36] <nrot_> i dont undertstand this shit
[09:37] <brombomb> System >> Help | About Gnome | About Ubuntu | Quit
[09:37] <pppoe_dude> ahave, ah... ok well just put in the size and make sure preceding space is 0
[09:37] <pppoe_dude> !language nrot_
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language nrot_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <ahave> pppoe_dude: and following space?
[09:37] <pppoe_dude> !language | nrot_
[09:37] <ubotu> nrot_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:37] <nrot_> :/
[09:37] <pppoe_dude> ahave, fill up all the partitions, make last one take up all the space
[09:37] <gradin> does anyboy know how to increase the verbose of the syslog?
[09:37] <hadron> anyone having issues with seahorse and gpg-agent?
[09:38] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  locate ?
[09:38] <AmaroqWolf> oh yeah, thank you
[09:38] <gradin> i've got a random crashing even that i'm trying to debug...
[09:38] <unop> gradin,  check the section talking about enterprise.log http://www.aboutdebian.com/syslog.htm
[09:39] <AmaroqWolf> unop, what was the command to make that copy again? xD I'm sorry to ask again. I don't know how to scroll in this terminal IRC client.
[09:39] <ahave> pppoe_dude: so remind me again the sizes i should make for the 3 partitions? '/' = ? , '/home'=?, and i know swap to be ~1Gb
[09:40] <pppoe_dude> swap should be 1.2 gb if u wanna hubernate, ahave
[09:40] <ahave> pppoe_dude: ok
[09:40] <nysosym> hi there, anyone knows a good texas holdem game for linux?
[09:40] <pppoe_dude> ahave, / 5 to 6 gb
[09:40] <pppoe_dude> ahave, rest for /home
[09:40] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  you should be able to select the command with the mouse and paste it in the terminal once out of irc - sudo ln -s libaudofile.so libaudiofile.so.0
[09:41] <gradin> unop: thanks
[09:41] <unop> nrot_,  it's likely that syslog is filtering messages out because they dont meet a severity level -- you might want an entry in your syslogd.conf thats trapping _everything_
[09:41] <delta-storm> Can someone tell me where can i get a flash player for my totem video player or some other video player to play flash files?? Thanks!!
[09:42] <ahave> pppoe_dude: and all these partitions should be created as primary? or extended?
[09:42] <nrot_> there is a *.* pointing to /var/log/all.log
[09:42] <pppoe_dude> delta-storm, mplayer
[09:42] <pppoe_dude> ahave, primart
[09:42] <delta-storm> is that a flash player?
[09:42] <AmaroqWolf> Okay unop, I'm going to try restarting.
[09:42] <ahave> pppoe_dude: can you explain the diffrence?
[09:42] <AmaroqWolf> Be right back.
[09:42] <imme> I cannot get to step 2 in my installer.
[09:43] <unop> nrot_,  and is that the logfile you are seeing that last message from half an hour ago?
[09:43] <imme> what can I do?
[09:43] <puggy> ahave: an extended partition only contains other partitions, you can't put a filesystem on it.
[09:43] <Barre> if I want to concatinate several disks and create a md device using mdadm, is that the --level=linear option?
[09:43] <pppoe_dude> ahave, long ago there used to be limitations on the number of primary partitions
[09:43] <ahave> pppoe_dude: ah,ok. so swap is still a primary then
[09:43] <imme> Can I try to install from terminal or something like that?
[09:43] <pppoe_dude> ahave, now its no problem... windows uses extended partitions more than linux
[09:43] <pppoe_dude> ahave, ya
[09:44] <nrot_> no, it was in /syslog not /all.log
[09:44] <pppoe_dude> although technically it could be anything... primary is MUCH easier to move and resize tho, ahave
[09:44] <unop> nrot_,  did you see that section about adding the extra options in /etc/init.d/sysklogd ?
[09:44] <alecjw> hi. i cant do suo any more. i'm guessing i need to go into recovery mode, but then what do i do?
[09:44] <nrot_> yep
[09:45] <delta-storm> Can someone tell me how can I copy files to filesystem HD in gui mode (simple CTRL+C , CTR+V) not in terminal mode?? Thanks!!
[09:45] <ahave> pppoe_dude: and can you explain how the '/' and '/home' partitions are used? why one needs to be 5-6 Gbs?
[09:45] <unop> nrot_,  were those entries already there? or did you have to add them in now?
[09:45] <pppoe_dude> ahave, '/' doesnt need to be 5-6gb, but it might be safer that way (you don't wanna run out of space on /)
[09:45] <ahave> pppoe_dude: is it related to system info/storage and '/home' related to user storage?
[09:45] <nrot_> it was already -ru in there, but i put in -mk0
[09:45] <pppoe_dude> ahave, /home contains only user files, user-specific data, etc
[09:46] <pppoe_dude> ahave, / contains the system tree and all the operating system
[09:46] <pppoe_dude> ahave, usually u shouldn't need more than 4gb
[09:46] <pppoe_dude> ahave, but to be on the safe side, giver some extra
[09:46] <delta-storm> Is it possible to log in as root in gui mode?
[09:46] <unop> nrot_,  ok, was syslogd restarted? (just making sure)
[09:47] <ahave> pppoe_dude: doing so will only leave me with 4Gb for /home
[09:47] <nrot_> yep
[09:47] <fildo> !bnc
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <unop> delta-storm,  yes, although you need to enable the root account first
[09:47] <fildo> !psybnc
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psybnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <pppoe_dude> ahave, then do it 5/5
[09:47] <fildo> anyone have info pages on psybnv
[09:47] <nrot_> syslog stop when i edited, then syslog start
[09:47] <nrot_> shows it starting up and all
[09:47] <delta-storm> how do i do that the thing is I want to:  copy files to filesystem HD in gui mode (simple CTRL+C , CTR+V) not in terminal mode?? Thanks!!
[09:47] <flaccid> hi guys how do i get a user's uid
[09:48] <pppoe_dude> ahave, although its better to run out of space on /home than on /
[09:48] <flaccid> ah yeah /etc/passwd
[09:48] <flaccid> but is there like an info command
[09:48] <pppoe_dude> flaccid, id
[09:48] <nrot_> ol
[09:48] <nrot_> yeah
[09:48] <nrot_> id
[09:48] <ahave> pppoe_dude: how would i run out of room on /
[09:48] <nrot_> id "username"
[09:48] <unop> nrot_,  have you triggered any activity since?
[09:48] <pppoe_dude> ahave, if you install too many packages
[09:48] <ahave> pppoe_dude: 4Gb is alot for an OS
[09:48] <flaccid> thanks y0
[09:48] <ahave> pppoe_dude: ah
[09:48] <fildo> nice command
[09:49] <pppoe_dude> ahave, i sometimes end up with gnome, kde, xfce,
[09:49] <ahave> pppoe_dude: like i said, if/when i fall in love i will prob dedicate the entire laptop to linux
[09:49] <delta-storm> how to enable the root account and how to log in as root? :)
[09:49] <AmaroqWolf> unop, same error.
[09:50] <delta-storm> in gui mode
[09:50] <nrot_> yes unop i told it to reboot, via commands, not manually shutting down or anything
[09:50] <AmaroqWolf> ubotu, maybe you can locate libaudio.so.0 on your system.
[09:50] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  does the file exist -- ls -l /path/to/libaudiofile.so.0 ?
[09:50] <Quintin> delta-storm: sudo su > passwd
[09:50] <unop> !ubotu
[09:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:50] <AmaroqWolf> I went to it's path and ls'ed it, and piped that into grep. It's there.
[09:51] <pppoe_dude> delta-storm, sudo passwd, but also read !root
[09:51] <pppoe_dude> delta-storm, and you may be looking for gksu nautilus
[09:51] <delta-storm> I meant in gui mode so I can copy files using ctr+...
[09:51] <alecjw> hi. i've lost the ability to use sudo. how cna i fix this?
[09:51] <AmaroqWolf> unop, maybe you can run a locate for libaudiofile.so.0 on your system. Maybe there's another directory it needs.
[09:51] <pppoe_dude> delta-storm, gksudo nautilis
[09:51] <Quintin> alecjw: how the hell did you do that?
[09:51] <pppoe_dude> delta-storm, *nautilus
[09:52] <AmaroqWolf> I'm using dapper if it makes a difference.
[09:52] <delta-storm> it says warning cannot open display
[09:52] <pppoe_dude> delta-storm, make sure you do it from a fresh terminal
[09:52] <unop> AmaroqWolf, nope, i dont run much multimedia on my system - it's quite bleak that way -- so no, i dont have it
[09:52] <alecjw> Quintin, fscked around with /etc/passwd. i assume that i need to  go into recovery mode and type a command to make my usrer an admin agian, but  what command?
[09:52] <pppoe_dude> delta-storm, gksudo nautilus
[09:52] <Quintin> alecjw: There isn't anything in /etc/passwd about who is admin and who is not.
[09:52] <Quintin> alecjw: That would be /etc/group
[09:52] <ahave> pppoe_dude: thelive CD gnome.. how does this differ from KDE?
[09:53] <ahave> pppoe_dude: is there a 'better'?
[09:53] <pppoe_dude> !worksforme |ahave
[09:53] <ubotu> ahave: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:53] <delta-storm> I did it from root and it says  cannot open display
[09:53] <pppoe_dude> oh wait never mind, ahave ;)
[09:53] <pppoe_dude> ahave, people have different tastes
[09:53] <AmaroqWolf> Can somebody run a locate libaudiofile.so.0 from a terminal and tell me if it's located in any directory other than /usr/lib
[09:53] <alecjw> Quintin, i meant i generally messed around with the users and grups and stuff (when trying to fix alsa). well, it's done now, so dop you know how i can fix it?
[09:53] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  have you made sure you have spelt the file correctly? i notice you misspell it here -- <AmaroqWolf> ubotu, maybe you can locate libaudio.so.0 on your system.
[09:53] <Quintin> alecjw: Add your account to the admin group.
[09:53] <AmaroqWolf> er, libaudiofile I mean
[09:54] <SatanGol1a> GNOME or KDE? does it matter which u choose? any advantages over the other?
[09:54] <ahave> pppoe_dude: but as far as functionality there is little diffrence?
[09:54] <pppoe_dude> ahave, gnome is my choice
[09:54] <AmaroqWolf> I spelt it right when I did it
[09:54] <pppoe_dude> ahave, little difference
[09:54] <AmaroqWolf> and I have the error written down.
[09:54] <Quintin> alecjw: boot single-user and vi /etc/group.  If you don't know how to do that, then boot with livecd , mount your hard drive somewhere, and then vi /etc/group
[09:54] <alecjw> Quintin, usermod -G admin MyUsername?
[09:54] <ahave> pppoe_dude: it seems 'windows'-ish
[09:54] <pppoe_dude> and you can run apps from both on each, ahave
[09:54] <unop> SatanGol1a,  KDE if you are 15 years old and like pretty interfaces, gnome otherwise :)
[09:54] <pppoe_dude> ahave, kde is generally considered more windowish
[09:54] <Quintin> kde is generally considered *crap*
[09:54] <SatanGol1a> hehe, i see unop
[09:54] <ahave> pppoe_dude: oh really?
[09:55] <ahave> pppoe_dude: hmm
[09:55] <elkbuntu> Quintin, i believe Linus would disagree there
[09:55] <Quintin> alecjw: yes.
, ja linux likes it...
[09:55] <imme> Is there a way to copy an unmounted partition to another?
[09:55] <alecjw> Quintin, ok. thanks for your help
[09:55] <pppoe_dude> imme, look into dd
[09:55] <Quintin> constant_: ... ?
[09:55] <unop> elkbuntu, Linus probably doesnt run a single GUI at all :)
 for some reason. I recently started using gnome after years of KDE, and im not going back
[09:55] <Quintin> imme: gparted ?  dd ?
[09:55] <SatanGol1a> so i think ubuntu is my choice, but what about xubuntu?
[09:55] <sanityx> At long last! WPA working!
[09:55] <Quintin> unop: not true
 linus.. soz
[09:56] <ahave> brb
[09:56] <sanityx> SatanGol1a, Xubuntu is great if you are using an old pc, or just want a more lightweight system
[09:56] <SatanGol1a> u can get all apps in there too, like openoffice aso?
[09:56] <pppoe_dude> i need to sleep.. nite
[09:56] <sanityx> SatanGol1a, You can install all the same apps.
[09:56] <unop> Quintin,  justify that
 linus torvalds *uses* kde...
[09:56] <SatanGol1a> ok, sweet sanityx
[09:56] <sanityx> constant_, And that makes it better somehow?
[09:56] <Quintin> constant_: stop that, now.
 nope
 im just saying
 i used to use KDE
[09:57] <Quintin> constant_: Quit quoting me.
[09:57] <SatanGol1a> then it'll be my choice of weapon, now school \o/
[09:57] <sanityx> I hate KDE. When I use KDE I feel like I'm using Windows 98
[09:57] <elkbuntu> constant_, you're making it seem like you're quoting quintin
[09:57] <Quintin> unop: justify what, specifically?
 what?
[09:57] <sanityx> constant_, everything you say starts with <Quintin>
[09:57] <constant_> Quintin, oh sorry
[09:57] <Quintin> ...
[09:57] <constant_> Quintin, hehe
[09:58] <nrot_> still nothing. arghhh. why cant this work. it doesnt make sense why its not working
[09:58] <imme> Quintin: gparted does not copy
[09:58] <unop> Quintin,  never mind, you've done it already :)
[09:58] <constant_> Quintin what is was busy saying, KDE is just slow and buggy compared to gnome. Gnome just looks better aswell
[09:58] <Quintin> imme: the hell it doesn't!
[09:58] <TheBoogieWoogieM> Whats the hardware requirements for uBunto 6.10?
[09:59] <Quintin> TheBoogieWoogieM: a PC made in the last eight years
[09:59] <nrot_> im about to seriously freak the f out and break everything around me.
[09:59] <Quintin> nrot_: do it!
[09:59] <constant_> TheBoogieWoogieM, a 386
[09:59] <zak__> constant_: all this is highly debatable
[09:59] <constant_> TheBoogieWoogieM, but rather not try that...
[09:59] <zak__> constant_: i usually find the complete opposite... i think it's just a matter of personal preference
[09:59] <imme> Quintin: I say: Partition > Copy , but after that I cannot paste to the partition on my other hd?
[10:00] <imme> Quintin: So, look @ dd ?
[10:00] <TheBoogieWoogieM> ok I can not install it on my PIII 950MHz, 512MB Mem, and 10 GB HD. Why?
[10:00] <Quintin> imme: What, exactly, are you trying to accomplish?
[10:00] <Quintin> !doesn't
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <constant_> zak__, ja i know... just my opinion
[10:00] <Quintin> !doesn'twork
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <AmaroqWolf> Can somebody run a locate libaudiofile.so.0 and tell me what directories shot up?
[10:00] <Quintin> ...
[10:00] <wigsta> Morning all - need help with a resolution problem Im having. For some reason my resolution has defaulted to 640 X 480. When i try and change it back via System / Preferences there are no other resolutions available - only 640 X 480. How else can I modify the resolution? Via the terminal?
[10:00] <constant_> TheBoogieWoogieM, sure
[10:00] <TheBoogieWoogieM> installer crashes in just after i enter the time zone...
[10:00] <constant_> TheBoogieWoogie, that would work fine
[10:00] <AmaroqWolf> *show up
[10:00] <oxygen> hello
[10:00] <Quintin> TheBoogieWoogieM: Test your RAM.
[10:01] <oxygen> how can i add divx subtitle on ubuntu
[10:01] <oxygen> ?
[10:01] <TheBoogieWoogieM> Ram is new
[10:01] <Quintin> TheBoogieWoogieM: does it happen at this point *ever* time?
[10:01] <TheBoogieWoogieM> yes...
[10:01] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libaudiofile.so.0&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[10:01] <Quintin> TheBoogieWoogieM: no reason it works.
[10:01] <Quintin> TheBoogieWoogieM: Test the CD.
[10:01] <imme> Quintin: I am trying to install ubuntu on my just installed new secondhand HD, but I was using ubuntu 6.10 from usb-hd before that and I know am working from LiveCD.
[10:01] <TheBoogieWoogieM> Tested good
[10:01] <Marty> wigsta: i had the same problem. i installed my nvidia drivers then they all showed up fine.
[10:01] <oxygen> help me pls
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[10:01] <constant_> brb
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[10:01] <Bubble> !paste | nrot_
[10:01] <ubotu> nrot_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
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[10:01] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  looks like you need to install that package listed there
[10:02] <constant_> what kind bru
[10:02] <SoulChild> hi all
[10:02] <nrot_> WTF.
[10:02] <AmaroqWolf> nrot_, please use pastebin
[10:02] <QMario> How do I fix a GRUB Hard Disk Error?
[10:02] <Quintin> nrot_: that's kind of considered poor taste on IRC.  also, don't middleclick your mouse on a term window, kthnx.
[10:02] <AmaroqWolf> I'm in a terminal based IRC. I can't click links
[10:02] <nrot_> i didnt do that, thats not somethign i pasted, i pasted it once, lay off
[10:02] <Quintin> QMario: elaborate
[10:02] <imme> oxygen: Already tried google?
[10:02] <Azul> i try to run maya and get the error "/usr/aw/maya8.0/bin/maya.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[10:03] <Azul> anyone knows what i should do?
[10:03] <Quintin> imme: I see.  try qtparted, mebbie. :P
[10:03] <wigsta> Marty: thanks for the tip but I dont have a fancy graphics card. How would I go about reinstalling the drivers for the one I do have though?
[10:03] <AmaroqWolf> nrot_, I'm using a terminal based irc program and I can't scroll up, so I missed what unop wanted me to go to.
[10:03] <TheBoogieWoogieM> so what's the sys req?
[10:03] <Quintin> imme: what filesystem is it?
[10:03] <imme> Quintin: 'kay, I'll do.
[10:03] <imme> Quintin: ext3
[10:03] <Quintin> imme: make it ext2, first
[10:03] <Jowi> Azul, did you install it (libxp)?
[10:03] <unop> Azul,  install libxp6
[10:03] <QMario> Quintin, I tried to install SUSE Linux on my external hard drive. After the first half of the installation completed, I tried to boot my computer with the Ext.HD unplugged and it displayed a message saying "GRUB Hard Disk Error".
[10:03] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libaudiofile.so.0&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[10:03] <hadron> is there a utility which automatically locates and "fixes" all hard drives?
[10:03] <SoulChild> I have this strange problem that i have no sound over headphones on my notebook, can someone hel please?
[10:03] <imme> Quintin: the one from my usb-hd ?
[10:04] <imme> Quintin: Or the new one?
[10:04] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  never mind actually -- just install this following package
[10:04] <Quintin> QMario: where did you put grub?
[10:04] <Marty> wigsta: it probably would. did you make sure your graphics card is supported?
[10:04] <Quintin> imme: the partition that you plan on copying
[10:04] <imme> Quintin: from or to. :)
[10:04] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  sudo aptitude install libaudiofile0
[10:04] <Azul> i don't know if i have libxp
[10:04] <Quintin> imme: the source
[10:04] <AmaroqWolf> lol
[10:04] <delta-storm> Hi again, now I have another problem:  When I try to open some certain files as root from console I cant I get an message Permission Denied?????
[10:04] <imme> Quintin: okay.
[10:04] <wigsta> Marty: yes everything was working fine, then all of a sudden the resolution changed.
[10:04] <unop> Azul,  sudo aptitude install libxp6
[10:05] <Quintin> delta-storm: what files.  does your terminal have a "#" on it?
[10:05] <QMario> Quintin, GRUB was already on my internal hard drive. I just installed it on the external hard drive.
[10:05] <delta-storm> yes it does
[10:05] <Azul> i'll try it out, thanks
[10:05] <AmaroqWolf> Okay unop, I did that.
[10:05] <fildo> dose anyone here have some info on psybnc
[10:05] <Marty> wigsta: you could try backing up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then adding the resolution manually in there. I don't know much about that as i'm pretty new to this stuff myself.
[10:05] <Quintin> QMario: It only needs to be on one of them.  is it on it's own partition or on the MBR?
[10:05] <nrot_> w/e
[10:05] <TheBoogieWoogieM> thanks for nothing this chat is the worst i've ever been in and I don't plan on returning it sux! Bye...
[10:05] <nrot_> i think im gonna go shoot up a 7/11 or something
[10:05] <Quintin> ...
[10:05] <delta-storm> the file is /etc/gdm/gdmconf.conf and X11/xorg.conf  and some other files to
[10:06] <hadron> ubuntu utility to scan and correct hard dirves?
[10:06] <AmaroqWolf> unop, should I retry now to log in?
[10:06] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  you probably want to verify that the /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 file is not a symlink like we created -- if it is .. remove it and install the package again
[10:06] <Quintin> I should code an idiot-filter for irssi
[10:06] <Jowi> Azul, if a program coplains that it can not find a lib file that usually means that it is not installed in the system. a simple "apt-cache search -n libxp" will give you some results back. libxp6 is probably what you want. type "apt-cache policy libxp6" to see if it is installed or not.
[10:07] <mhiku> can i have an example how to do CPPFLAGS during compile?
[10:07] <QMario> Quintin, on its own partition, I think...
[10:07] <Quintin> QMario: 04:07 < dpkg> Don't think. KNOW.
[10:08] <administrator_> HI
[10:08] <delta-storm> Im trying to install mplayer but its conflicting with some other software is that software totem player??
[10:08] <Quintin> delta-storm: no.
[10:08] <delta-storm> then what is it?
[10:08] <Quintin> delta-storm: You need to be more specific please.  how are you trying to install it ?
[10:08] <delta-storm> over add/remove tab
[10:08] <unop> delta-storm,  doesnt apt-get tell you what the conflicting package is?
[10:09] <administrator_> i want to install it too
[10:09] <delta-storm> thanks
[10:09] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I rm'ed libaudiofile0, and tried to do the install command again, but it didn't put it back in
[10:09] <AmaroqWolf> I'll attempt a locate
[10:09] <imme> Quintin: Thanks for your help, but the installer started working again, so I'll use that. :)
[10:09] <administrator_> i am a newer
[10:09] <imme> Quintin: Have a good day. ;)
[10:09] <AmaroqWolf> unop, it's nowhere.
[10:09] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  locate will not locate the file -- the database needs to be rebuilt -- run updatedb first
[10:09] <Marty> quintin, i brought this up earlier but nobody seemed to be able to answer my question. my mouse randomly stops working. I unplug it and plug it back in and it's fine. any ideas for troubleshooting?
[10:10] <Quintin> Marty: what kind of mouse?
[10:10] <administrator_> why i can not see some words
[10:10] <Marty> quintin usb logitech g5
[10:10] <EyeZed> hey so is it a dumb idea to run a LAMP environment from ubuntu desktop?
[10:10] <Lynoure> EyeZed: not a good idea, often done for testing or developement
[10:10] <Quintin> EyeZed: I would not recommend using a desktop as a server.  if you want to play, get an old machine and use it for a server.
[10:10] <delta-storm> Can someone Please tell me how can I copy,cut,paste files to the root filesystem from a home-folder or another location in gui mode that is from gnome???  Thank you!!!
[10:11] <Lynoure> EyeZed: oops, not a dumb idea
[10:11] <Quintin> Marty: wired / wireless
[10:11] <Quintin> delta-storm: alt-f2 > gksu nautilus --no-desktop
[10:11] <EyeZed> is there a LAMP package thats configured out of the box?
[10:11] <EyeZed> i see that the server distro seems to have one
[10:11] <Marty> Quintin: wired. it does the same thing with my other mouse as well. that's a razer diamondback
[10:11] <Quintin> delta-storm: this is also most likely very stupid.  you don't need to be root to use your computer.  and you don't want to put files helter-skelter all over the place.  keep stuff in your homedir
[10:12] <AmaroqWolf> unop, hehehe I've got an .so.0 and a .so.o0.0.2
[10:12] <AmaroqWolf> er
[10:12] <AmaroqWolf> .so.0.0.2
[10:12] <Quintin> Marty: hardware failure.  go buy a PCI usb controller.
[10:12] <AmaroqWolf> probably because I reinstalled
[10:12] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  thats probably intentional -- placed by that package -- go ahead and try logging in now :)
[10:12] <delta-storm> Im using LAMPP and to run my PHP files I need to put them in /opt/lampp/htdocs folder??
[10:12] <AmaroqWolf> okay
[10:12] <ahave> pppoe_dude: yay install done :D
[10:12] <Marty> quintin: right now i have frontside and backside usb. shouldn't they be on different controllers? they both do it.
[10:13] <Quintin> delta-storm: wtf is lampp.  it sounds bad.
[10:13] <unop> delta-storm,  use the command line .. much easier, faster and you actually learn :)
[10:13] <zoexii> can anyone help me install java development kit on ppc?
[10:13] <Jowi> !commands | delta-storm
[10:13] <ubotu> delta-storm: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:13] <Quintin> Marty: that depends on the PC, actually.  usually there's 2 root hubs in that case.  you can find out in hw monitor.
[10:13] <EyeZed> Quintin: lamp = linux, apache (web server), mysql (database), php (programming language)
[10:13] <Quintin> Marty: you might see how your power supply readouts are
[10:13] <Marty> quintin: one last thought. I have 6 usb ports (4 back/2 front) when i run the command to show what's hooked upt ll something something it shows only 4
[10:14] <rhcp_> hello
[10:14] <EyeZed> and i guess the last p is python?
[10:14] <EyeZed> no clue
[10:14] <ahave> pppoe_dude: is there a way to default to grub boot loader to boot windows partition instead ?
[10:14] <rhcp_> what do i need to do to allow remote X connections? besides xhost _
[10:14] <rhcp_> ?
[10:14] <delta-storm> I'm really a newb to linux so can you tell me how to copy some files from home folder to /opt/lampp/htdocs/test1?
[10:14] <Quintin> EyeZed: Yea thanks Sherlocke.  it's in /opt though.  this means it's some third party thing.. this is bad! :p
[10:14] <Teodros> can i connect to dial up using the live cd?
[10:14] <Quintin> delta-storm: I just told you that.
[10:14] <unop> delta-storm,  sudo cp -vi /path/to/original /path/to/newlocation
[10:15] <delta-storm> sorry i didnt see
[10:15] <delta-storm> THank you very much!
[10:15] <zoexii> delta-storm mv filename /opt/lampp/htdocs/test1/
[10:15] <Quintin> Marty: look at the readouts from your power supply.  Also, does the red light go out on the mice ?
[10:15] <rhcp_> any ideas?
[10:15] <EyeZed> does ubuntu server have gnome? or is it shell only
[10:15] <Marty> quintin: stays light up. how do i check the other info. it's my first week in ubuntu
[10:15] <Quintin> EyeZed: I don't think it has gnome by default
[10:15] <unop> EyeZed,  it has no GUIs
[10:16] <chad> Hey - I havn't played with the Ubuntu installer or media, but is there a release in which I can customize the media installed? ie, no gnome / X, etc.
[10:16] <unop> EyeZed,  but you can install gnome on it if you want -- but that defeats the point of having a server install because at that point it's little different to a desktop install
[10:16] <ahave> bbl
[10:17] <zoexii> chad, netinstall gives some minimal options,
[10:17] <storm> Is it possible to schedule my computer to boot at a certain time?
[10:17] <chad> zoexii: Ubuntu uses deb's apt, correct?
[10:17] <Quintin> Marty: lm_sensors
[10:17] <zoexii> chad, yes,
[10:17] <EyeZed> unop: yea i suppose, just curious. im a total linux newb so im just asking questions really
[10:17] <unop> storm,  if your BIOS supports wake-up -- sure
[10:17] <mhiku> how to use LDFLAGS?
[10:17] <storm> unop: Any idea how to do it, or what to look for?
[10:17] <Teodros> Can i connect to dial up using the live cd?
[10:18] <chad> zoexii: cant apt be used to manage all packages, perform updates, intelligent dependency handling/cleaning, etc?
[10:18] <unop> storm,  well, have you ever checked the BIOS config utility?
[10:18] <zoexii> Teodros, yes I believe so, if your modem is supported.
[10:18] <Teodros> thanks
[10:18] <storm> unop: Wait, wake-up is triggered by activity on the LAN or some such, as far as I recall
[10:18] <Quintin> chad: no, it can do *none* of those things.
[10:18] <nekocodi> So #ubuntu we meet again. Allright my question is, what program should i use to encode video files into smaller video files and add subtitles so I don't have to deal with .srt files?
[10:19] <Quintin> nekocodi: mencoder.
[10:19] <zoexii> chad, yeah, that sounds about right... apt is about the only tool I use to deal with packages.
[10:19] <unop> storm,  it can also be woken-up by something called an "RTC alarm" for which you can specify a time at which the computer starts up everyday
[10:19] <nekocodi> thank you
[10:19] <chad> Quintin: Apt can only install packages and dependencies?
[10:19] <storm> unop: All right; thanks
[10:19] <zoexii> chad, occasionaly I use dpkg and alien to install .rpms
[10:19] <Quintin> chad: I'm being a smartass.  apt does everything, and does it quite well.
[10:19] <unop> chad,  apt is a collection of various utilities
[10:19] <chad> Quintin: ah, heh.
[10:20] <Jowi> Teodros, here's some info regarding dial-up if you need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:20] <Teodros> thanks
[10:20] <chad> unop: does ubuntu share hte same apt repositories as debian?
[10:20] <Flannel> chad: no
[10:20] <unop> chad,  no, differrent repos, different packages .. but similar structure
[10:21] <frogzoo> chad: no and don't try it - you will seriously mess up your machine
[10:21] <andou> hi
[10:21] <unop> frogzoo,  i didnt mess up my machine when i did that tho (not that i am giving license for others to copy me) :)
[10:22] <frogzoo> unop: you didn't try very hard
[10:22] <chad> So an ubuntu netinstall is possible for us KISS folks?
[10:22] <EyeZed> okay so the latop im considering installing ubuntu on has a s3 graphics savage ix video gpu
[10:22] <EyeZed> how do i find drivers for it
[10:23] <Jowi> chad, depends on how handy you are I would say :) see here for different ways to install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[10:23] <unop> frogzoo,  errm, i guess so, i just added some entries to the sources.list .. installed what i wanted and commented the entries out afterwards
[10:24] <dimitri_> is there a way to encode avi files so that i can write them to DVD? gnome backer just writes the avi file to the DVD. thanks
[10:24] <Grish> wow, this channel is full of people
[10:24] <chad> Jowi: alright alright. I'll look. Thanks
[10:25] <gonzalez> hola hay alguien por ahiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:25] <unop> !es
[10:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:25] <tuxub> does ubuntu have webmin in its repos?
[10:25] <Flannel> !webmin | tuxub
[10:25] <ubotu> tuxub: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[10:25] <unop> tuxub,  no .. its not considered to be a "safe" software
[10:25] <SoulChild> !ku
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ku - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <tuxub> ubotu, are there any replacements?
[10:26] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I can login now. But everything that attempts to start, crashes. Including the trash can, nautilus, terminal, firefox, everything.
[10:26] <tuxub> Flannel, unop are there any replacements?
[10:26] <Grish> has anyone heard anything about shockwave running in ubuntu?
[10:26] <Flannel> tuxub: not that I'm aware of
[10:26] <Flannel> Grish: there is no linux shockwave client
[10:26] <unop> tuxub,  the original authors still maintain a debian/ubuntu package - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/webadmin/webmin_1.320_all.deb
[10:26] <Grish> apart from through wine i mean
[10:27] <Jowi> Grish, it does not exist
[10:27] <Grish> i was still hopeful though Flannel
[10:27] <tuxub> is there any good web tool for adminin a ldap server for PDC funtions?
[10:27] <Grish> that is a real shame
[10:27] <AnAnt> !bluetooth
[10:27] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:27] <Grish> i really hope that one is made sometime soon
[10:27] <unop> tuxub,  the best probably is the fedora-directory-server
[10:27] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  damn :( any errors/reasons given?
[10:28] <tuxub> unop, is it available in the ubuntu repos?
[10:28] <Grish> apart from the shockwave thing, ubuntu is really nice
[10:28] <elementz> hi everybody
[10:29] <AmaroqWolf> um, I dunno. I can't remember exactly what they did.
[10:29] <AmaroqWolf> something like... invalid, command or something
[10:29] <AmaroqWolf> I don't remember.
[10:29] <unop> tuxub,  err, no .. you need to install it by converting the .rpms made for fedora .. or build from source (lengthy process)
[10:29] <AmaroqWolf> The trash can gave me a box asking me if I wanted to delete the applet
[10:29] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  ok, log off and log back in -- let's try and sort it out
[10:30] <tuxub> unop, have you tried using alien to convert the rpms to deb? is it a "clean job" that will "just work" ?
[10:30] <AmaroqWolf> the gnome settings daemon or something said it restarted too many times
[10:30] <unop> tuxub,  well, that depends on a case-by-case basis -- some packages have no problem being aliened -- some do
[10:30] <AmaroqWolf> unop, I have the ubuntu CD. Couldn't I just run a repair mode or something on it?
[10:31] <administrator_> why i can not see some words
[10:31] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  errm, i dont think a "repair" mode exists
[10:31] <Rydekull> Right, question. I have a chance her on a large company to prod away redhat/fedora. However, to please the customer I must use the best way, similiar to a "anaconda-ks" file. I've been pondering about FAI but it isnt even close to as easy as a anaconda-ks file, even though I prefer FAI myself. Any suggestion on a similiar solution?
[10:31] <AmaroqWolf> er, I mean a repair type thinger. xD
[10:31] <administrator_> i can not see the last words
[10:31] <AnAnt> how can I receive a file from a cellphone on Bluetooth  ?
[10:31] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  but .. do log back in .. it might just be a case of installing another missing package/file
[10:31] <tezem> I have a bash script and want to use the variables of another script in it, how can I make sure that those variables are set when I only run the script without the variables?
[10:32] <AmaroqWolf> unop, okay. I'll write down anything specific that I see.
[10:32] <elementz> somebody over at #ndiswrapper suggested i need a patch for my kernel to allow 4k stacks - does anyone have more info on that?
[10:32] <unop> tezem,  a question to be asked in #bash
[10:33] <unop> elementz,  what versions of ndiswrapper and kernel?
[10:33] <administrator_> what to have more
[10:33] <elementz> unop, utils version: 1.9
[10:33] <elementz> driver version:        1.37
[10:33] <elementz> vermagic:       2.6.17-10-386 mod_unload 486 REGPARM gcc-4.1
[10:33] <elementz> unop, kernel 2.6.17-10-386
[10:33] <Marty> quintin: i took your advise and tried lm-sensors. to see if my usb isn't working correctly what should i be looking for in the output?
[10:34] <elementz> unop, what are 4k stacks anyways?
[10:35] <nekocodi> Allllright, soooo I'm a complete n00b at Ubuntu and I can't figure out for the life of me how to install MEncoder from the file I downloaded.
[10:36] <Jowi> nekocodi, why not install it from the repos?
[10:36] <nekocodi> The .... what?
[10:36] <Jowi> !info mencoder
[10:36] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[10:37] <elementz> unop, you still there?
[10:37] <Jowi> nekocodi, it is in the "multiverse" repository.
[10:37] <Jowi> !multiverse | nekocodi
[10:37] <ubotu> nekocodi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:37] <nekocodi> mkay, I'll see if I can figure that out
[10:38] <nekocodi> Ok, figured it out thanks
[10:39] <Jowi> nekocodi, this link is particularly good https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[10:41] <nekocodi> Allright I installed MEncoder from a Repository (Searched Synaptic for MEncoder, installed the one I found) I assume there's no GUI to it and it's all terminal right?
[10:41] <Jowi> nekocodi, you assume correct :)
[10:41] <priya> join#rubyonrails
[10:41] <mistform> wtf
[10:41] <mistform> every video I try and stream is choppy as crap
[10:41] <priya> sdf
[10:41] <priya> IDENTIFY priya
[10:41] <nekocodi> Allright so now I just need to go read up on how to work MEncoder from the terminal and I'm set right?
[10:42] <nekocodi> Hmm wait, but I'm assuming that I don't just need MEncoder to encode a file, I also need the apropreate codecs right?
[10:44] <Jowi> nekocodi, you want to encode or decode a movie? mencoder is used to encode. mplayer, totem/xine etc can be used to watch a movie. you need codecs, correct.
[10:45] <Jowi> !codecs | nekocodi
[10:45] <ubotu> nekocodi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:45] <pavs> just installed xinetd package for telnet but my firewall is refusing connection how do I disable or configure firewall to allow telnet connection?
[10:45] <kane77> anybody knows of a program (script) that would scan the ftp for files (changes) and then export it into file (which would then be parsed into mysql database.. but I can do that in php...)??
[10:45] <nekocodi> Naw I'm encoding Subtitles into video and sizing them down, so I need to run the orig video file + the subtitle file and then output to one file which is resized for internet portability.
[10:46] <Jowi> nekocodi, ah
[10:48] <pavs> just installed xinetd package for telnet but my firewall is refusing connection how do I disable or configure firewall to allow telnet connection?
[10:49] <Flannel> pavs: you don't.  Your telnet program will listen to the port, and that'll allow you to connect
[10:50] <JackPhil> why sudo aptitude remove '~beryl' do nothing?
[10:50] <Jowi> pavs, no ports are blocked by default
[10:50] <dwi> hai kenalan yuk
[10:50] <pavs> pavs@pavs-laptop:~$ telnet 192.168.2.1
[10:50] <pavs> Trying 192.168.2.1...
[10:50] <pavs> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[10:50] <JackPhil> abosolutly i have beryl installed
[10:50] <Flannel> pavs: and youve verified it's listening?
[10:50] <pavs> how?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> JackPhil: try without the "
[10:51] <johnson> hi
[10:51] <gnomefreak> JackPhil: normally sudo aptitude remove beryl should work
[10:51] <Flannel> pavs: netstat -a
[10:51] <Flannel> pavs: why telnet though?  why not ssh?
[10:52] <nekocodi> Allright another question. So why did my sound go funky on me after I installed XMMS and VLC player?
[10:52] <pavs> I did netstat -a | grep telnet
[10:52] <pavs> nothing
[10:52] <Flannel> pavs: then your telnet isn't listening.
[10:52] <pavs> i am playing with telnet, trying to figure out how it works
[10:52] <JackPhil> gnomefreak, i tried no '', don't work too
[10:53] <pavs> now what do i do?
[10:53] <Jowi> pavs, so start it. "sudo /etc/init.d/nameoftelnetserver start". but I would recommend using ssh instead of telnet.
[10:53] <mneptok> pavs: "not well." there's your answer. now use ssh. ;)
[10:53] <deus> I installed manually the jdk program
[10:53] <JackPhil> ~ in manual seems don't work
[10:53] <deus> i mean the java developer kit
[10:53] <pavs> ok let me try ssh
[10:53] <deus> but how can i revmoe the preinstelled java
[10:53] <pavs> anymanual out there to run and install SSH
[10:53] <Flannel> !java | deus
[10:53] <ubotu> deus: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:53] <deus> or make my system use the manually installed
[10:53] <Jowi> !ssh | pavs
[10:53] <ubotu> pavs: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:54] <Flannel> pavs: yeah, simply 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[10:54] <gnomefreak> JackPhil: beryl is a meta package did you try sudo apt-get remove beryl* or apaitude remove beryl
[10:54] <mneptok> pavs: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[10:54] <gnomefreak> aptitude*
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Flannel: openssh-server?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> afaik ssh isnt a package
[10:54] <Flannel> gnomefreak: ssh works too.  The client is already installed. 'ssh' installs both client and server
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[10:55] <bh_> How do I make ide-scsi work with udev under Ubuntu ?
[10:55] <deus> and fuck the apt repository for the moment.
[10:55] <bh_> I'm trying to pass a CDROM drive to the ide-scsi device handler but it's not showing up in /dev/ at all
[10:56] <deus> im getting it from the sun site
[10:56] <Flannel> deus: that page gives you instructions for all sorts of things.  And, watch your language.
[10:57] <pavs> ok I installed it. now what ? is there any manual out there? I guess I have to configure it
[10:57] <mneptok> pavs: you don't have to configure anything
[10:57] <JackPhil> thanks gnomefreak, i want downgrade beryl, 0.1.9999.1 don't work for me
[10:57] <pavs> netstat -s gives me nothing
[10:58] <pavs> netstat -a
[10:58] <pavs> i mean
[10:58] <gnomefreak> join #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <klimraamkosie> GParted crashes on install. I've tried it a few times, with a few CDs. What now? :(
[10:58] <Flannel> pavs: no, it's already configured.  Just... login
[10:58] <pavs> pavs@pavs-laptop:~$ telnet 192.168.2.1
[10:58] <pavs> Trying 192.168.2.1...
[10:58] <pavs> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[10:59] <Flannel> pavs: ssh doesn't connect via telnet, it connects via ssh.
[10:59] <pavs> :)
[10:59] <pavs> my bad
[10:59] <bh_> Anybody know about udev and ide-scsi here ?
[11:00] <hayden> klimraamkosie, you can try install ubuntu via the Alternate Install CD
[11:00] <Jowi> pavs, "ssh user@ipaddress"
[11:01] <mistform> http://www.squetch.com/twofish.html
[11:01] <pavs> pavs@pavs-laptop:~$ ssh pavs@192.168.2.1
[11:01] <pavs> ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.1 port 22: Connection refused
[11:02] <kuma> hi, how can i mount my partition data so any user can read/write in it?
[11:02] <dwi> gg
[11:02] <dwi> ggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:02] <dwi> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:02] <dwi> ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:02] <dwi> ggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:02] <Jowi> pavs, how are these computers connected?
[11:02] <dwi> g
[11:02] <dwi> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:02] <johnson> flannel     are you here
[11:02] <Jowi> dwi, behave
[11:02] <dwi> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:02] <johnson> flannel    i need your help
[11:02] <dwi> i u
[11:03] <pavs> lan laptop is wireless computer is connected to router physically no WEP
[11:03] <pavs> I also treid the ip address but i didnt want to reveal the ip on the open
[11:03] <johnson> flannel    are you here
[11:03] <dariel> a non-encrypted-wlan?  ouch
[11:03] <Flannel> johnson: er... yes.
[11:04] <Jowi> pavs, do you have a firewall active on the server computer?
[11:04] <ahave> pppoe_dude: thanks again!
[11:04] <johnson> flannel    why i can not see the last word  in the  x chat
[11:04] <pavs> how can I tell?
[11:04] <Jowi> pavs, if you know you set it up yourself.
[11:04] <Flannel> johnson: ... I have no idea?  I don't use XChat.  last word of what?  the topic?  peoples chatter?
[11:04] <pavs> no unless ubuntu installs it by default
[11:04] <Jowi> pavs, ubuntu does not block incoming connections by default
[11:05] <ahave> pppoe_dude: i have ubuntu up and running ATM! now to try and figure it all out..
[11:05] <johnson> flannel    so i can not understand what you say
[11:05] <Jowi> pavs, "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[11:05] <Jowi> pavs see if you gete any errors
[11:05] <pavs> i did a remote port scan on my ip and i got all ports blocked
[11:05] <ErenTurkay> hi al
[11:05] <ErenTurkay> +l
[11:06] <johnson> flannel   which software are you using to chat
[11:06] <Amon-san> how much sense would it make to ask someone on a linux channel to test one's firewall for vulnerabilities?
[11:06] <ErenTurkay> is there any packager? i need help about packaging gnome dependencies, i think you guys can help me
[11:06] <mneptok> Amon-san: none
[11:06] <pavs> no error restarted ssh
[11:06] <Jowi> pavs you did a scan on your public or private ip address?
[11:06] <Flannel> johnson: irssi.  but, that's not important.  I don't know why your last word is clipped off.
[11:06] <pavs> public
[11:06] <johnson> flannel   i am a newer
[11:06] <Flannel> johnson: it's definately not a common issue.
[11:07] <Amon-san> mneptok: why so?
[11:07] <Jowi> pavs, are you using the same computer to connect with as the server is running on?
[11:07] <mneptok> Amon-san: because people can lie about what they find?
[11:07] <pavs> no server is desktop connecting from laptop
[11:07] <Amon-san> ok, so this person would need to be 1) a person i pay or 2) someone i can trust
[11:07] <Amon-san> better if both apply
[11:08] <linuxor> I can not install Ati Mobility Radeon X1400>>>help
[11:08] <kuma> hi, how can i mount my FAT32 partition data so any user can read/write in it?
[11:08] <mneptok> Amon-san: it's like asking if you have something stuck to your back. the only answer you can trust is from people you trust. not random strangers.
[11:08] <mneptok> kuma: chown + chmod
[11:08] <Amon-san> ok
[11:09] <kuma> mneptok, ok, manning
[11:09] <johnson> flannel   wha t do you mean      do you mean that irssi is not a common software
[11:09] <frogzoo> Amon-san: google 'shields up'
[11:09] <GreyGhost> my Ubuntu boot got fsked up due to some reason ...
[11:09] <Jowi> pavs, ok, sit on the server machine and try "ssh ipaddressofserver" does that work?
[11:09] <AmaroqWolf> unop, tons of juicy error-ness. would you like it in full, with all the 0xffffe410 in, etc etc stuff, or just the filenames involved?
[11:09] <Amon-san> well i don't trust these scan your firewall sites, cause they're too generic
[11:09] <mneptok> oh dear. Steve "Drama Queen" Gibson.
[11:09] <johnson> flannel   are you here
[11:09] <_ali> how to reset beagle content/index?
[11:10] <ahave> just finished installing ubuntu.. now i am trying to load my programs up, all my programs seem to be offered only in source code.. how to install a gcc compilier?
[11:10] <GreyGhost> It completes loading (the splash screen) but the login screen never comes..
[11:10] <_ali> how to clear beagle index/content?
[11:10] <johnson> flannel  are you  a student
[11:10] <mhiku> what is this error? configure: error: !!! no tgetent - no screen
[11:10] <mneptok> ahave: what do you need to compile?
[11:10] <pavs> it says name of service not known
[11:10] <ahave> mneptok: various programs... BitchX is number one
[11:10] <GreyGhost> !gcc | ahave
[11:10] <ubotu> ahave: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:10] <mneptok> !offtopic | johnson
[11:10] <ubotu> johnson: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:10] <Amon-san> ahave: my ubuntu install downloaded binaries
[11:11] <mneptok> ahave: install that stuff from the repos. do not compile it.
[11:11] <kuma> how can i see all the users with their IDs?
[11:11] <Jowi> pavs, and "ssh 127.0.0.1"?
[11:11] <ahave> well some programs are only offered in source
[11:11] <ahave> it is something that i wouldnt mind knowing how to do
[11:11] <deus> Im following a set of instruction to include my manually installed java into the package system, however it ask me to copy something from "cp /usr/share/doc/java-common/dummy-packages/*.control" and then build something of of them
[11:11] <GreyGhost> ahave ,yes untill and unless the software u want is not in the repos it is suggested that u dont build urself ..
[11:11] <deus> but i cant find the folder
[11:12] <GreyGhost> !apt | ahave
[11:12] <ubotu> ahave: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:12] <pavs> its asking me to add it as known host and assign a password
[11:12] <Jowi> pavs "yes" to that
[11:12] <Jowi> pavs, so the ssh server is running fine...
[11:12] <Amon-san> thank god that ubuntu != gentoo ;-)
[11:12] <pavs> ok I logged in from my server
[11:12] <ahave> GreyGhost: define repos?
[11:12] <pavs> 'let me try from another comp
[11:13] <babwe>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY babwe
[11:13] <arnaud__> shell script question: do you know a command to check if some IP address is part of a given network ?
[11:13] <Jowi> pavs, 127.0.0.1 won't work from the laptop
[11:13] <GreyGhost> !repositories | ahave
[11:13] <ubotu> ahave: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:13] <GreyGhost> ahave ,i ove using ubotu ;)
[11:13] <pavs> you are right its a loopback
[11:13] <Jowi> pavs, you probably set up a firewall or edited /etc/hosts.deny on the server computer.
[11:14] <ahave> GreyGhost: nice :) thanks again. now i have oogles of reading material
[11:14] <GreyGhost> ahave ,why i suggest that u avoid compiling is cos .. sometimes u may get stuck in dependency hell ...
[11:14] <GreyGhost> ahave ,np ;0
[11:14] <GreyGhost> now...who want s to help me figure out my problem ??
[11:15] <GreyGhost> my Ubuntu boot got fsked up due to some reason ... It completes loading (the splash screen) but the login screen never comes..
[11:15] <Flannel> babwe: you're going to want to change that password
[11:15] <kuma> tried to chown all the files of a directory, but in all gave an error "operation not permited". Any idea?
[11:15] <Flannel> kuma: which files are you chowning?
[11:15] <kuma> sudo chown -R paito /media/myhda4/paito/
[11:15] <babwe> flannel I will LOL
[11:16] <pavs> ok thanks for your help alot :) I will work on it later
[11:16] <Flannel> kuma: you probably want to mount it as a regular user, instead of chowning it.
[11:16] <kuma> Flannel. yes, i want that the partition to be free
[11:17] <mneptok> kuma: uname:gid
[11:17] <kuma> mneptok: I beg your pardon?
[11:17] <mneptok> kuma: sudo chown -R paito:paito /media/myhda4/paito
[11:17] <SoulChild> anyone using Lyx???
[11:18] <kuma> mneptok: oh, ok, but isn't there a way that any user can read/write/del files from that partition?
[11:18] <mneptok> kuma: chmod
[11:19] <arnaud__> SoulChild, I used it some years ago...
[11:19] <kuma> chmod all the files?
[11:19] <SoulChild> arnaud__: is it possible to see the symols while wirting
[11:19] <SoulChild> i mean if i type \sum it writes sum instead of the symbol
[11:20] <mneptok> kuma: chmod -R the mount point
[11:20] <kuma> mneptok tried the chown command you gave me, same error msg
[11:20] <vliegje20> is there any possibility to open msaccess documents under ubuntu?
[11:20] <kuma> mneptok: care to be a little more specific? i'm a newbie
[11:21] <mneptok> kuma: type "whoami" (no quotes)
[11:22] <kuma> whoami
[11:22] <mneptok> no, in the Linux terminal ;)
[11:22] <kuma> mneptok: done xD
[11:22] <kuma> mneptok: kuma
[11:22] <mneptok> kuma: so your account name is "kuma"
[11:23] <kuma> yup
[11:23] <Thehound666> hey babwe, see you're back here
[11:23] <AmaroqWolf> unop, when I logged back in, I wrote down some stuff. It was in the "notify developers" part of the error, and I had it display debugging information.
[11:23] <kuma> i'm tring to give access to my sister to her files
[11:23] <babwe> yeh trying t change me pass
[11:23] <kuma> mneptok: i'm tring to give access to my sister to her files
[11:23] <mneptok> kuma: which means trying to change ownership of files to some non-existent user account named "paito" ain't gonna work.p
[11:23] <Daemoen> does ubuntu use the alternatives binary in order to manage /etc/alternatives, if so, where is the binary stored?
[11:24] <Thehound666> I forgot my original one here lol so I just appened 666 for this net :)
[11:24] <kuma> mneptok: my sister account exist
[11:24] <Thehound666> appended*
[11:24] <babwe> nope
[11:24] <mneptok> kuma: on the Linux machine?
[11:24] <kuma> mneptok: yes, with wich command can i see all the users?
[11:24] <ivan> hi
[11:24] <mneptok> kuma: not Windows. Linux. you created an account named "paito" on the Ubuntu box?
[11:25] <kuma> mneptok: yes
[11:25] <ivan> i have a problem, can anyone help
[11:25] <Jowi> !ask | ivan
[11:25] <ubotu> ivan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:25] <ivan> I've purchaced a Toshiba L30-134 laptop
[11:25] <ivan> but there is no sound
[11:26] <ivan> Card: HDA ATI SB , Chip: Realtek ID 862
[11:26] <dwi> hai
[11:26] <ivan> i'm using alsa 1.0.13
[11:26] <ivan> Master, Pcm and Capture are all 100%, none of them is muted
[11:26] <cmt^^> is there any way of seeing how much down-traffic i have had using linux-dc++? Are there logs and such?
[11:26] <tezem> Where do I find the init script in ubuntu? Afaik it was /etc/inittab but since ubuntu switched to upstart that is changed, right?
[11:27] <kuma> mneptok?
[11:27] <Jowi> tezem, /etc/init.d
[11:27] <mneptok> kuma: is the drive *actually mounted* at that mount point right now?
[11:27] <imme> :|
[11:28] <imme> That's a lot of folks...
[11:28] <kuma> mneptok: yes... i can access it with no problem
[11:28] <tezem> Jowi, there are the daemons I know but I search for the first script after the kernel boot
[11:28] <tezem> I want to change the console settings
[11:29] <GreyGhost> i suppose i'll have to reinstall Ubuntu then ..
[11:29] <mneptok> kuma: thten you'll need to find someone with NTFS-fu. i know nothing of Windows.
[11:29] <Jowi> tezem, /etc/event.d i guess
[11:29] <kuma> mneptok: no, the partition is FAT32
[11:29] <mneptok> GreyGhost: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <mneptok> kuma: same thing. i use real filesystems. ;)
[11:29] <arnaud__> SoulChild, I don't think so ... you have to abuse of the preview function from what I remember
[11:30] <GreyGhost> mneptok ,ok i'll try that ... thanks :)
[11:30] <tezem> Jowi, thx
[11:31] <kuma> mneptok: I have 3 partition, the NTFS windows one, Linux and a partition data, but when my sister uses her account she can't read/write her files, i'm trying to fix that now
[11:31] <kuma> *data partition, no partition data
[11:31] <kupesoft> ASDF
[11:32] <babwe> I need hlp howto setup xchat with fish on a 64-bit pc running Ubuntu dapper pls
[11:32] <klimraamkosie> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[11:32] <babwe> ubuntu
[11:32] <klimraamkosie> Sorry, wasn't a reply to you.
[11:32] <mneptok> with fish?
[11:33] <babwe> fish plugin
[11:33] <ph8> anyone ever tried running webcams under ubuntu?
[11:33] <mneptok> !xchat | babwe
[11:33] <ubotu> babwe: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[11:33] <ph8> wondering if it'll work out of the bo
[11:33] <ph8> * box
[11:34] <ph8> why would xchat need fish babwe?
[11:34] <mneptok> ph8: uhhh ... that sorta lacks a certain degree of specificity ;)
[11:34] <ph8> i'm assuming you mean kde's fish and not something else
[11:34] <ph8> mneptok: webcams or fish? ;)
[11:34] <mneptok> ph8: "webcams"
[11:35] <babwe> I know ubotu but this pluging http://fish.sekure.us/ I cant get t work
[11:35] <ph8> well, generally - do they work nicely
[11:35] <kuma> I have 3 partition, the NTFS windows one, Linux and a data partition, but when my sister uses her account she can't read/write her files, i'm trying to fix that now, can somebody help me?
[11:35] <ph8> do we have any software that runs them
[11:35] <ph8> etc
[11:35] <ph8> kuma: you can't write to ntfs from linux
[11:35] <ph8> is that what you mean?
[11:35] <constant_> kuma:write files to where?
[11:35] <ph8> the support just isn't there to write to ntfs atm
[11:35] <kuma> the data partition is FAT32
[11:36] <ph8> ok
[11:36] <ph8> so you should be able to read/write nicely as long as it's mounted correctly
[11:36] <constant_> kuma make sure the umask on the FAT32 partition is correct
[11:36] <kuma> constant_: I mean she can't open them or edit them
[11:36] <kuma> constant_: the problem is pr permissions
[11:36] <kuma> *of
[11:36] <constant_> kuma: are the files she's trying to open on the FAT32 partition?
[11:37] <kuma> constant_: yes
[11:37] <kuma> constant_: I can access them fine.
[11:37] <constant_> kuma: okay then you mustve modified or created a directory as root, or with your account
[11:37] <constant_> and now you own the files/dirs and she doesnt have access rights to them
[11:37] <kuma> constant_: I'll check the owner
[11:38] <constant_> kuma: and she should have read/write permissions aswell
[11:38] <kuma> constant_: exactly
[11:39] <constant_> kuma: so chown -R *she*.*her group* /*her folder
[11:40] <ph8> presumably the best solution is to put both of you in a group
[11:40] <ph8> and chgrp the whole thing
[11:40] <ph8> with a clear owner
[11:40] <kuma> constant_:I tried sudo chown -R paito:paito /media/myhda4/paito i get an "operation not permitted" error msg
[11:40] <constant_> or that ja
[11:40] <ph8> hmm
[11:40] <constant_> are you sure the FAT32 part is RW?
[11:40] <ph8> can you show us the output of 'mount'? as root
[11:40] <ph8> in a pastebin preferably
[11:40] <ph8> ?paste
[11:41] <ph8> !paste
[11:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:41] <kuma> constant_: yes, she can access those files fone form my account
[11:41] <kuma> *fine
[11:41] <dwi> ddddddddd
[11:41] <constant_> oh okay so its not that
[11:41] <constant_> try doing sudo -s
[11:41] <constant_> and then the chown
[11:41] <Thehound666> think I know why the fglrx drivers don't work for me and it's insane.
[11:41] <Thehound666> Proprietary crap...
[11:42] <constant_> coz its ATI...
[11:42] <Thehound666> make some open source ones
[11:42] <Thehound666> :)
[11:42] <kuma> ok
[11:42] <constant_> ATI and Linux aint a good combination
[11:42] <constant_> kuma: any luck?
[11:42] <mneptok> ATI and a brain larger than the average moth's is not a good combination.
[11:42] <kuma> onstant_: sudo -s chown -R paito:paito /media/myhda4/paito/ ???
[11:43] <kuma> constant_: sudo -s chown -R paito:paito /media/myhda4/paito/ ???
[11:43] <constant_> no, first sudo -s
[11:43] <kuma> ok
[11:43] <constant_> then ull drop into a root shell
[11:43] <Thehound666> ATI is pretty good on Windows and you don't know about the sucky Linux drivers until you switch to Linux
[11:43] <constant_> mneptok: good point
[11:44] <tezem> On my system /dev/tty[1-6]  are connected to consoles. Now I removed /etc/event.d/tty[4-6]  but the /dev/tty[4-6]  still open up. Where can I change that?
[11:44] <Thehound666> but I think I know how to finally make them work on that system
[11:44] <dwi> ///////ddrfytdfs
[11:44] <Thehound666> instead of using a VM
[11:44] <mneptok> Thehound666: the fact that ATI can't code a decent Linux driver to save their lives makes me question the quality of their efforts on Windows.
[11:44] <dwi> begjonet
[11:44] <kuma> constant_: same error msg
[11:44] <Gurpartap> anyone tried abr2gbr for gimp?
[11:44] <Gurpartap> pleaes help using it. couldn't find any documentation on it's usage
[11:44] <constant_> kuma: thats kak wierd
[11:44] <Thehound666> Oblivion at over 70 fps high detail will clear that doubt
[11:45] <constant_> !paste
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:45] <constant_> !pastebin
[11:45] <Dh3Y0> !zynaddsubfx
[11:45] <ubotu> zynaddsubfx: Realtime software synthesizer for Linux. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.1-4 (edgy), package size 949 kB, installed size 2172 kB
[11:45] <constant_> Thehound666: on linux...?
[11:45] <Thehound666> no way
[11:46] <babwe> let me refraze me problem.... running Ubunto on a 66-bit pc...xchat running perfect..but will not accept this plugin http://fish.sekure.us/  im getting this error /home/poul/.xchat2/xfish.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:46] <Thehound666> not sure you can run that game under nix
[11:46] <Thehound666> it's intensive under Windows
[11:46] <constant_> on a 66-bit pc?? lawl
[11:46] <student> helo
[11:46] <Thehound666> they only sold me a 64 :P
[11:46] <constant_> bye
[11:47] <constant_> babwe was talkin bout a 66-bit one...
[11:47] <constant_> hehe
[11:47] <Thehound666> lol
[11:47] <student> hi
[11:47] <babwe> sorry 64
[11:47] <babwe> lol
[11:47] <constant_> hehe
[11:47] <babwe> hi hi
[11:47] <diskus> babwe: and this is Ubuntu channel, not Ubunto :P
[11:48] <babwe> ah guys spelling
[11:48] <constant_> babwe: ubunto on 66-bit pc...
[11:48] <student> hi
[11:48] <constant_> babwe: noooice
[11:48] <diskus> babwe: and we probably don't know why that plugin doesn't work, ask from their web site why it doesn't work
[11:48] <babwe> oki thx
[11:49] <Thehound666> babwe did you ever just stick it in the folder and run xchat?
[11:49] <constant_> babwe: it looks like that lib itsnt where is should be...
[11:49] <Thehound666> that plugin needs no prep install
[11:49] <constant_> babwe: if on your pc at all...
[11:49] <Thehound666> it just gets picked up and loaded into xchat
[11:50] <Gurpartap> anyone willing to help using abr2gbr for gimp?
[11:50] <Gurpartap> ................
[11:50] <constant_> Gurpartap: whats the prob?
[11:50] <babwe> oki then I dont know wazz im doing wrong thx
[11:50] <constant_> student: yo
[11:51] <Gurpartap> constant_: what's the usage? any reference links would be appreciated either
[11:51] <Simulator> hey why my wireless cant detect IP
[11:51] <Gurpartap> constant_: thank you in advance!
[11:51] <Thehound666> I don't see what could be going wrong since xchat will read everything from the folder normally
[11:51] <Simulator> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:A5:DD:11:8B
[11:51] <Simulator>           inet6 addr: fe80::214:a5ff:fedd:118b/64 Scope:Link
[11:51] <Simulator>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[11:51] <Simulator>           RX packets:143 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[11:51] <Simulator>           TX packets:50 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[11:51] <Simulator>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[11:51] <Simulator>           RX bytes:33889 (33.0 KiB)  TX bytes:15516 (15.1 KiB)
[11:51] <Thehound666> then load it
[11:51] <Simulator>           Interrupt:20 Memory:c3000000-c3004000
[11:51] <constant_> Gurpartap: usage of?
[11:51] <Gurpartap> abr2gbr
[11:51] <Gurpartap> brush convertor
[11:51] <Gurpartap> http://the.sunnyspot.org/gimp/tools.html
[11:51] <Simulator> no IP
[11:52] <kuma> this is weird, even as root the Konqueror tells me I don't have enough permissions to change a directory permissions.
[11:52] <kuma> any idea?
[11:52] <Gurpartap> IRCing as root is bad
[11:52] <Simulator> ---
[11:52] <constant_> kuma: u have a wierd prob there.. u running kubuntu?
[11:53] <schwuk> Just tried to use an Ubuntu CD to upgrade a machine, but I chose the wrong option and cancelled it. How do I get the upgrade process to run again when I insert the CD?
[11:53] <constant_> Gurpartap: dont know it...
[11:53] <kuma> constant_: yup
[11:53] <Gurpartap> constant_: no worries :)
[11:54] <constant_> kuma: its your computer crapping on u coz u use KDE :)
[11:54] <Thehound666> - XChat v2.4.5 on Linux/gentoo (64 bit)
[11:54] <constant_> thats old
[11:54] <Thehound666> are you sure you're using the right .so
[11:54] <Simulator> Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:14:a5:dd:11:8b
[11:54] <Simulator> Sending on   LPF/wlan0/00:14:a5:dd:11:8b
[11:54] <Simulator> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[11:54] <Simulator> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
[11:54] <Simulator> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
[11:54] <Simulator> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
[11:54] <Simulator> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
[11:54] <Simulator> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
[11:54] <Simulator> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
[11:54] <Thehound666> I think there was a 64-bit in the compressed archive
[11:54] <Simulator> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[11:54] <Simulator> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[11:54] <Simulator> why
[11:54] <ardchoille> !paste | Simulator
[11:54] <ubotu> Simulator: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <constant_> - XChat 2.6.6 on Linux/Ubuntu6.10 SMP#2
[11:54] <Simulator> anyone can help me
[11:54] <kuma> constant_: lulz, what's the /etc/ file that show your partitions?
[11:55] <constant_> fstab
[11:55] <constant_> /etc/fstab
[11:55] <assasukasse> hi everyone
[11:55] <assasukasse> i am trying to upgrade to feisty
[11:55] <assasukasse> so i changed the repo and issued apt-get upgrade
[11:56] <assasukasse> and it went fine
[11:56] <assasukasse> but when i wanted to issue apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:56] <assasukasse> i got an error of insufficient space on /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:56] <assasukasse> what can i do
[11:56] <constant_> assasukasse: get more space...
[11:56] <yellow> assasukasse, get a bigger hdd
[11:56] <apokryphos> !enter | assasukasse
[11:56] <ubotu> assasukasse: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:57] <constant_> lawl
[11:58] <assasukasse> i made a 6gb partition for root, how come still get those problems..is there anything i can do to upgrade? maybe use a cd of the herd 3?
[11:58] <constant_> assasukasse: df -h
[11:58] <constant_> assasukasse: and check how much hdd space u have left
[11:59] <Simulator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4696/
[12:00] <assasukasse> available 142Mb
[12:00] <java__> hi i have just reseaved and tried my first Ubuntu CD and i got two big problems can i descuse them with someone here ?!!
[12:01] <java__> *reseaved  : reseaved
[12:01] <apokryphos> !ask
[12:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:01] <constant_> assasukasse: thats why
[12:01] <kuma> constant_: can you please look at my fstab? mybe there's a clue there :P  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4697/
[12:01] <assasukasse> constant_ anything i can do?
[12:01] <constant_> assasukasse: ur not going to update a whole mirror with 142mb of space left...
[12:01] <constant_> kuma: okay hold on
[12:01] <java__> sorry i didnt knew that i should ask without introductions
[12:02] <net-island> hello!
[12:02] <assasukasse> constant_ upgrade works, dist-upgrade not..now that i am already with upgrade done and can't do dist-upgrade, what would happen? broken system?
[12:02] <java__> i got a very poor screen resolution  640 * something
[12:02] <java__> while i am now connected by XP with very high and greate resolution
[12:03] <java__> i tried to change the resolution by using prefrence menue but it didnt allow me to change it at all
[12:03] <constant_> "while i am now connected by XP with very high and greate resolution" hahahaha
[12:03] <_mackinac_> :|
[12:03] <net-island> some one heve never installed ubuntu edgy on toshiba satelide p20 laptop? i've problem with touchpad, it not be recognized, i must use an external usb mouse
[12:04] <net-island> someone can help me??
[12:04] <java__> sorry i didnt ment that XP is better actually i am tired of it but i need to have good resolution in ubuntu to use it
[12:04] <java__> is there another way to change my screens resolution ?!!
[12:05] <java__> well ?!!
[12:06] <_mackinac_> java: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-edf61bdea0fd68c38cd57e42671fbcc8afcf1647
[12:06] <constant_> kuma: okay, ive modified it a bit
[12:06] <kuma> constant_: :3
[12:06] <constant_> kuma: backup ur old fstab file cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
[12:06] <kuma> constant_: ok
[12:06] <constant_> kuma: and paste the new fstab in there
[12:07] <constant_> and reboot ur PC
[12:07] <Ayabara> any good apps to use bluetooth with my nokia cell phone?
[12:08] <java__> _mackinac_: thanks a lot
[12:08] <kuma> constant_: lol, I don't think so, you only screw up with the data partition
[12:09] <java__> one more problem i am facing now is i need to use my dail up modem and couldnt use it with ubuntu how to configure it
[12:09] <java__> in the configuration i tried to auto detect it but it couldnt
[12:09] <constant_> kuma: hehe just joking. i changed it so all files creates with umask=000 and it doesnt belong to a specific group
[12:09] <kuma> constant_: how can i see the correction? i tried accessing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4697/ but i don't see any new entries
[12:09] <java__> i used each option available in the list but still coudnt activate it ?
[12:10] <hendry> After upgrading to Edgy from Dapper, a friend is unable to view WMVs. Is he missing a package?
[12:11] <constant_> #
[12:11] <constant_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[12:11] <constant_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:11] <constant_> /dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:11] <constant_> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[12:11] <constant_> /dev/hda4       /media/myhda4   vfat    defaults,rw,umask=000,utf8     0       0
[12:11] <constant_> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,rw,utf8,umask=000 0       1
[12:11] <constant_> /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:11] <constant_> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:11] <constant_> ag shit
[12:11] <constant_> how do you pastebin?
[12:11] <ardchoille> !paste | constant_
[12:11] <ubotu> constant_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <constant_> !paste | constant_
[12:12] <constant_> !paste
[12:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <constant_> so you do !paste and then after the paste enter your stuff
[12:13] <constant_> !paste # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[12:13] <constant_> #
[12:13] <constant_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[12:13] <constant_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:13] <constant_> /dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:13] <constant_> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[12:13] <constant_> /dev/hda4       /media/myhda4   vfat    defaults,rw,umask=000,utf8     0       0
[12:13] <constant_> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,rw,utf8,umask=000 0       1
[12:13] <constant_> /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:13] <constant_> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:13] <constant_> HAAAAA!
[12:13] <kuma> lol
[12:13] <ardchoille> constant_: No, you go to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste you stuff there and give us the URL.
[12:14] <Erealz> clear
[12:14] <Erealz> hello everyone and good morning
[12:14] <constant_> oh.. hehe im an idiot soz
[12:14] <constant_> kuma: i modified it...
[12:14] <constant_> kuma: go see
[12:15] <kuma> constant_: ok, thanks
[12:15] <Erealz> I have question about an itune alternative...?
[12:15] <constant_> just backup ur old fstab incase something happends
[12:15] <mneptok> Erealz: Rhythmbox, Amarok, Songbird
[12:15] <kuma> constant_: the URL? ^_^U
[12:16] <Erealz> best one the cream of the crop
[12:16] <osfameron> Erealz: Quod Libet is rather nice
[12:16] <mojo_> excuzi moa
[12:16] <mojo_> i would like to ask a question
[12:16] <osfameron> all media players suck in some way or other
[12:16] <Erealz> dud I just need something nice
[12:16] <mneptok> mojo_: "excuse moi" ;)
[12:16] <frogzoo> mojo_: don't ask, just state your problem
[12:17] <mneptok> Erealz: Rhythmbox is already installed. try it.
[12:17] <CrakeHunter> hello! can anyone tell me, please: i am using a fakeraid nraid so far , ubuntu doesnt have support for that. now i have heard of softraid - can i run softraid in mode 0, and is it as fast as my current nraid mode 0 setup?
[12:17] <Luk0r> Erealz: that's personal opinion, but I like rhythmbox myself
[12:17] <Erealz> ok I have
[12:17] <Erealz> and I have to say
[12:17] <mneptok> CrakeHunter: just use LVM ;)
[12:17] <Erealz> it sucks
[12:17] <frogzoo> Erealz: amarok on a fast machine, audacious otherwise imo
[12:17] <mneptok> !enter | Erealz
[12:17] <ubotu> Erealz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:17] <mojo_> okay, then I just ask: How can I remove 'launchpad' thing out of Ubuntu? I mean those 2 entries in Help menu
[12:18] <Erealz> why well , becouse when I add the feed all the past shows show up witch is messy
[12:18] <Luk0r> Erealz: so try the others, then
[12:18] <kuma> constant_: nvm i already paste it from the chat, thanks for all your help :)
[12:18] <frogzoo> !audacious | Erealz
[12:18] <ubotu> Erealz: A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[12:18] <phlackee> I have mount a extenal hdd in hda1 , I can upen it but there is a folder Lost + Found that display a error
[12:18] <phlackee> permissions error
[12:18] <osfameron> Erealz: RhythmBox works, doesn't have a confusing interface, and doesn't really do any less than iTunes.  I recommend Quod Libet right now
[12:18] <Erealz> checking it out
[12:18] <frogzoo> phlackee: all ext filesystems have a lost+found - it's business as usual
[12:19] <CrakeHunter> i will have to mneptok, but i would like to know if it is as fast a s before
[12:19] <java__> i need to configure my dail up modem on ubuntu to be able to use the net but i couldnt it knows that i have a modem and a network card( that i dont use) when i tell it the username and password i try to set the device to /dev/modem i dont get it working
[12:19] <mneptok> osfameron: QL has some dependencies that tick me off and i am trying to have removed.
[12:19] <osfameron> I found a lot of the media players crashed with stupid error messages while trying to import my music collection (like amarok, which additionally has a really confusing user interface)
[12:19] <assasukasse> constant_ can i move temporarly the /var/cache/apt/archives into my /home hard disk that is bigger? and how to do
[12:19] <osfameron> mneptok: oh?  I've not had problems, but yeah, that could be annoying
[12:20] <Erealz> well thanks anyways
[12:20] <mneptok> osfameron: depends on gstreamer-mad. BAD packager! no cookie!
[12:20] <Gurpartap> Getting the error while doing "make": => "gcc: command not found"
[12:20] <Gurpartap> What could be missing?
[12:20] <mneptok> Gurpartap: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:20] <Gurpartap> whereis gcc
[12:20] <Gurpartap> gcc: /usr/lib/gcc
[12:20] <Gurpartap> oh ok
[12:20] <Gurpartap> right
[12:20] <Erealz> sudo gcc
[12:20] <Gurpartap> thank you
[12:20] <java__> i need to configure my dail up modem on ubuntu to be able to use the net but i couldnt it knows that i have a modem and a network card( that i dont use) when i tell it the username and password i try to set the device to /dev/modem i dont get it working any one help please its very important
[12:20] <frogzoo> Gurpartap: install build-essential
[12:21] <mneptok> java__: softmodem?
[12:21] <phlackee> frogzoo: there was a microtik installed there and I need to find password of microtik
[12:21] <Gurpartap> thanks all!
[12:21] <frogzoo> !modem | java__
[12:21] <ubotu> java__: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[12:21] <java__> umm what is softmodem i am new to linux
[12:21] <hbaigu> assasukasse, make a dir in you home, and delete archives in /var/cache/apt/ and do 'sudo ln -s /home/new_dir /var/cache/apt/archives'
[12:21] <diginet> I can belive my eyes: O_O  Ubuntu + Beryl + AIGLX + ATI 9250 "RadeonDriver" Works like a Charm and i LOVE IT, Kicks Vista Ass !!!
[12:22] <frogzoo> !botsnack
[12:22] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:22] <frogzoo> !modem | java__
[12:22] <ubotu> java__: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[12:22] <CrakeHunter> diginet, which ati drivers do you use?
[12:22] <ardchoille> diginet: IMHO, Linux has been kicking Windows' bum since 2001 :)
[12:22] <hbaigu> assasukasse, wrong, is 'sudo ln -s /var/cache/apt/archives /home/new_dir'
[12:22] <frogzoo> !ati | CrakeHunter
[12:22] <ubotu> CrakeHunter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:23] <java__> what is softmodem and hardmodem and how to know which is mine ?!!!
[12:23] <diginet> The open-source ones "radeon" not fglrx. I'm Very very surprised guys, This Beryl Stuff realy rocks!!
[12:24] <frogzoo> java__: is it external connected to the serial port?
[12:24] <java__> frogzoo : it is internal PCI modem
[12:24] <hbaigu> assasukasse, noooo wrong again , is 'sudo ln -s /home/new_dir /var/cache/apt/archives' is correct
[12:24] <CrakeHunter> is there any difference in stability between the 32 and the 64 bit  version?
[12:24] <diginet> :D :D :P Im very happy weeee!!! :P XD
[12:25] <frogzoo> java__: k, it's what's known as a 'winmodem' - whether you can get it to work entirely depends on whether you can get a linux driver for your particular modem's chipset
[12:25] <CrakeHunter> diginet, i will be happy if i convert to ubuntu - sofar mandriva couldnt convince me , unfortunately i bought mandriva
[12:25] <CrakeHunter> i love the colors of ubuntu!
[12:26] <java__> frogzoo: and how do i know if i can do that , is there something like steps i should follow i am really very new to linux
[12:26] <felixhummel> hi!
[12:26] <diginet> wow, ubuntu has a huge huge community :P :)
[12:27] <diginet> hey how can i Screencast my Beryl?
[12:27] <frogzoo> java__: try: "sudo lspci |grep -i modem"
[12:27] <Quintin> Anyone here use prelink?
[12:27] <Quintin> diginet: /join #beryl
[12:27] <williammanda> can i get some one to help me with there commands?
[12:27] <diginet> ok
[12:28] <apokryphos> diginet: /msg ubotu beryl
[12:28] <williammanda> i'm trying to setup mythtv
[12:28] <CrakeHunter> i am downloading the 64 bit version 6.10 - is it as stable as the 32 bit version?
[12:28] <frogzoo> java__: no pm's kthx, what does that command return?
[12:28] <java__> frogzoo: ok i cant use it now i have to restart the computer and log in ubuntu i cant get online with ubuntu so i am using XP now
[12:29] <frogzoo> CrakeHunter: 64bit is a pain on the desktop, 32bit is fine
[12:29] <kuma> constant_: it booted :)
[12:29] <frogzoo> java__: don't do that - just go into control panel & read what make/model your modem is
[12:30] <constant_> constant
[12:30] <kuma> constant_: looks like everything is working alright now :)
[12:30] <williammanda> can anyone verify a few commands?
[12:30] <kuma> thanks a lot
[12:31] <java__> frogzoo: it says :  PCI Soft Spkerphone Modem (COM5)
[12:31] <arphetic> Is there a way to kill all processes using the package system database? (something is running it, which prevents me from installing stuff I think)
[12:31] <incorrect> excuse me noob question, but what client is best with .torrents under firefox?
[12:32] <kuma> incorrect: bittorrent clients doesn't run on firefox
[12:32] <arphetic> incorrect: Firefox is not a torrent client
[12:32] <incorrect> ah
[12:32] <incorrect> thought there might be a plugin
[12:32] <williammanda> correct.....mysql -u root mysql
[12:33] <williammanda> mysqlcheck -r -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg
[12:33] <frogzoo> java__: best I can do is suggest you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/ScanModem
[12:33] <williammanda> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mythtv') WHERE user='mythtv';
[12:33] <kuma> constant_: thanks for all your help
[12:33] <Ayabara> I'm trying to connect to my nokia 6288 from ubuntu with gnome-phone-manager, but it won't quite work. what daemons and such do I need for this?
[12:33] <Thehound666> lol your ati instructions are a headache but I'll try them after a nap
[12:33] <kuma> constant_: see ya :)
[12:34] <williammanda> do these look correct?
[12:34] <java__> frogzoo: thanks a lot hope i can make it work
[12:34] <Thehound666> cute how you linked from the page to the ati driver feedback survey
[12:34] <Thehound666> lol
[12:41] <mackinac> !help
[12:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:42] <shinobi2> is there a program to do a bench mark test on my hardware?
[12:43] <constant_> shinobi2: a couple of them
[12:43] <Ayabara> anyone know how I can blutooth-pair my nokia to my edgy laptop?
[12:43] <constant_> shinobi2: google is your friend, embrace her
[12:43] <icheyne> !bluetooth | Ayabara
[12:43] <ubotu> Ayabara: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:44] <shinobi2> constant_: google makes everyone in the world boil an egg the same way =)
[12:45] <constant_> shinobi2: hehe but it works :)
[12:45] <Orfeous> Kubuntu is quite cool.. its similair to windows vistas animations with windowing etc..
[12:45] <Orfeous> 3d..
[12:45] <shinobi2> constant_: you have to admit, i got a point hahaha
[12:46] <frogzoo> has anyone tried roaring penguin for pppoe, & is it any more reliable than stock pppoe? my pppoe atm drops out & won't reconnect & would like to fix it
[12:46] <constant_> shinobi2: hehe u coooould use MSN search... but that'll spoil ur egg...
[12:47] <shinobi2> hell no ...
[12:47] <constant_> hehe
[12:47] <javi_> OLAAA
[12:47] <Ayabara> icheyne, thanks. hcitool dev shows no devices, so it's no wonder it doesn't work...
[12:48] <javi_> HELLOOO SPAINNNN
[12:48] <icheyne> Ayabara, good luck
[12:48] <icheyne> !es | javi_
[12:48] <ubotu> javi_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:48] <paradroid> Hi all.
[12:48] <paradroid> Is there a way to start a program on startup and place its window on a certain desktop?
[12:49] <ardchoille> paradroid: I believe Devilspie can do that.
[12:49] <ardchoille> !devilspie
[12:49] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[12:50] <paradroid> Haha, thank you. That must have been one of the fastest answers in IRC I ever got. ;)
[12:50] <jmiller565> !GNOME
[12:50] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[12:50] <javi_> SPAINSSS
[12:50] <ardchoille> paradroid: :)
[12:51] <paradroid> Damn, I have to think of another, more sophisticated question. That was too easy. ;)
[12:52] <zeifer> I'm tired. Xubuntu is still.... updating.
[12:53] <constant_> zeifer: 56k...
[12:53] <christin00> i have problem with install game im nobe
[12:55] <zeifer> I'd love to help you christin00  however, I don't install games on my Ubuntu releases, generally.
[12:56] <christin00> when i wrote make
[12:56] <padge> I'm having some trouble compiling something
[12:56] <christin00> i had : fireworks.c:52: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
[12:56] <christin00> fireworks.c:56: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of read_pcx differ in signedness
[12:56] <padge> there's a compile script that's been written, and I think it was written in a hurry
[12:56] <padge> I was wondering if someone had the knowhow to tell me what a couple of things meant
[12:57] <ardchoille> padge: I'm sure someone can try.
[12:57] <padge> # get Qt3 precedence from Qt4
[12:57] <padge> export PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH
[12:57] <snail> padge: you know what the PATH is?
[12:57] <padge> If I were to guess, that's someone trying to add to or change the path
[12:57] <padge> yes
[12:58] <snail> padge: that adds a directory to the start of the path
[12:58] <padge> but I didn't know they had labels for different applications
[12:58] <padge> like $QTDIR ?
[12:58] <snail> $QTDIR/bin is prepended to PATJ
[12:58] <padge> okay
[12:58] <snail> $QTDIR should be set somewhere else in the application
[12:58] <padge> so the path is delimited by the colon
[12:58] <christin00> ;/
[12:59] <padge> BAsed on that comment
[12:59] <snail> padge: indeed
[12:59] <constant_> hehe
[12:59] <padge> Would you say that he's trying to use Qt3 instead of Qt4 which he suspects might happen if he just uses whichever qmake is in the path?
[01:00] <snail> padge: entirely likely
[01:00] <Orfeous> what is Beryl Ubuntu?
[01:00] <snail> Orfeous: eye candy
[01:01] <christin00> zeifer: so..can you help me install..?
[01:01] <constant_> use compiz instead
[01:01] <constant_> it more stable
[01:01] <constant_> well i think so
[01:01] <padge> snail: So, when and how is $QTDIR set and how can I find out where it points?
[01:01] <frogzoo> !beryl | Orfeous
[01:01] <ubotu> Orfeous: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:01] <Orfeous> how do i get Beryl Ubuntu?
[01:01] <snail> padge: "echo $QTDIR"
[01:01] <amadeus> hello
[01:01] <constant_> apt-get install beryl
[01:01] <frogzoo> constant_: beryl has more/better effects
[01:02] <padge> okat
[01:02] <padge> That returns a blank line
[01:02] <padge> does that mean that it's not set?
[01:02] <Orfeous> quite similair to Windows Vista..
[01:03] <Orfeous> with those animations
[01:03] <snail> padge: indeed
[01:03] <Dh3Y0> my connection timed out whilst i was trying to install some programs with apt-get how do i complete the installation?
[01:03] <snail> amadeus: hi
[01:03] <constant_> frogzoo: ill check it out sometime
[01:03] <snail> amadeus: you may be after #ubuntu-de
[01:03] <constant_> frogzoo: i just heard it isnt quite that stable
[01:03] <padge> So the author of that script presumed that QTDIR would be set, which it's not.  I replaced the proceeding lines with just 'qmake'
[01:03] <Quintin> Dh3Y0: the same way that you started it.
[01:03] <padge> on my first attempt
[01:03] <padge> but the compiler puked
[01:04] <Dh3Y0> kk
[01:04] <hadronq> I'm having problems for the past day or two with a usb mouse freezing on the gnome desktop. Any ideas?
[01:05] <frogzoo> constant_: you heard right
[01:05] <dr_nick> hu
[01:05] <Paddy_EIRE> i have just installed winxp and would now like to restore the grub
[01:05] <frogzoo> constant_: but once they get that worked out, beryl will be awesome
[01:05] <diazepam> does anyone know if network-manager-gnome still works with wpa?  And if so what is the command to get the gui up?
[01:05] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[01:05] <andy101> !upgrade
[01:05] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:05] <frogzoo> !grub | Paddy_EIRE
[01:05] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:07] <Paddy_EIRE> frogzoo: Im actually using debian and winxp on this comp and i only have a ubuntu edgy cd should this still work
[01:07] <frogzoo> Paddy_EIRE: yep
[01:07] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one :)
[01:07] <dr_nick> i'm having trouble switching from CRT to a new TFT (connected via VGA). it works, resolution-wise, but i'd like to run xorg at 60Hz refresh rate. even running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and setting 1280x1024@60Hz as optimal or limiting VertRefresh to 50-60 in xorg.conf won't keep Xorg from running @75Hz refresh
[01:07] <Orfeous> i think i am gonna install ubuntu now on my computer instead of windows. I am really excited.
[01:08] <Orfeous> i have been running debian for many years but ubuntu seems to be better for desktop using...
[01:08] <Orfeous> desktop clients
[01:08] <rmatheus> eae
[01:10] <diazepam> does network-manager-gnome still work under Edgy?
[01:10] <cafuego_> diazepam: yup
[01:11] <cafuego_> and feisty too
[01:11] <diazepam> cafuegu - just installed it with no errors but the gui doesnt seem to appear
[01:11] <CrakeHunter> heh, diazepam - il like ye name :D
[01:11] <diazepam> crakehunter - lol
[01:11] <cyphase> anyone having problem with the latest update? linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules-generic won't install
[01:12] <diazepam> cafuego - so whats the command to get the network-manager-gnome gui up?
[01:12] <cyphase> diazepam: nm-applet
[01:12] <klimraamkosie> Question: I installed ubuntu with alternate, everything went fine. I restart, and it said "boot record and backup are not the same, doing nothing about it". Then it stops there.
[01:13] <cyphase> it looks like only half the new packages are uploaded
[01:15] <amadeus> is there anybody who has experience with the regulation of cpu voltage?
[01:17] <Orfeous> are there any kind of movie editing softwares for ubuntu?
[01:17] <Orfeous> dc clients.. etc
[01:17] <felixhummel> Can I enable tab-completion for scp, so "scp me@myPC:/ho<tab>" completes to "scp me@myPC:/home/"?
[01:18] <constant__> felixhummel: it should do that automatically if u use bash
[01:18] <felixhummel> constant__, doesn't :/
[01:19] <constant__> mmmm...
[01:19] <felixhummel> completion works everywhere else though
[01:19] <klimraamkosie> Question: I installed ubuntu with alternate, everything went fine. I restart, and it said "boot record and backup are not the same, doing nothing about it". Then it stops there.
[01:19] <constant__> felixhummel: maybe bash just cant do scp completion of dirs
[01:19] <LiniX> hi all, I want to use magicpoint (presentation programe), but i have a problem, it say
[01:20] <LiniX> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[01:20] <padge> How do I pipe the stderr stream to a file?
[01:20] <LiniX>   Major opcode of failed request:  64 (X_PolyPoint)
[01:20] <LiniX>   Serial number of failed request:  112
[01:20] <LiniX>   Current serial number in output stream:  113
[01:20] <felixhummel> constant__, doesn't work for files either
[01:20] <oxygen> is a new version ubuntu feisty ?
[01:20] <LiniX> how i fix it?
[01:20] <constant__> felixhummel: what do you mean?
[01:20] <constant__> felixhummel: when you do whaT?
[01:21] <Eposhark> Hi guys, what could be the problem in this ping? http://rafb.net/p/0dPmAo42.html
[01:21] <tiredbones> I'm having problems installing Edgy 6.10 on my  Dell Inspiron 1501,doesn't recognise the hard drive, but I see a lot of people are having this problem. I found  a howto by a blogger name redDead at this site. http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/. Is this the most common way to fix the problem?
[01:21] <constant__> oooh
[01:21] <Eposhark> As you can see, it goes from fast to very slow, and has 21% packet loss...
[01:21] <Eposhark> It's probably something to do with the wireless connection of the Ubuntu PC I'm trying to ping... But how do I solve it?
[01:21] <constant__> uhm... does anyone know where XFCE's menu config files are?
[01:21] <felixhummel> constant__, i'm at my server and want to copy a file from myPC to home, i.e. "scp me@myPC:/home/me/.bashrc ~"
[01:22] <constant__> felixhummel: okay then it wont work
[01:22] <lisette> # /.momomo
[01:22] <felixhummel> constant__, nice! :D
[01:22] <felixhummel> :'(
[01:22] <constant__> felixhummel: the think with scp is, you have to know the other machines dir structure
[01:22] <oxygen> what s it ubuntu feisty
[01:23] <constant__> felixhummel: and scp cant know that either, coz the transaction with the remote machine is only done after you pressed enter
[01:23] <_james> what's new for ubuntu?
[01:23] <felixhummel> guessed it...
[01:23] <felixhummel> constant__, well, is there another way than mounting nfs volumes (like sshls or something)?
[01:23] <amadeus> (spricht hier jemand deutsch?)
[01:24] <felixhummel> amadeus, join #ubuntu-de
[01:24] <constant__> net afrikaans...
[01:24] <constant__> dis amper dieselfde :)
[01:24] <constant__> felixhummel: mmmm not that i know of
[01:25] <felixhummel> constant__, thanks, nevertheless!
[01:25] <amadeus> felixhummel: it was only a question. im already in ubuntu-de
[01:25] <constant__> felixhummel: cool cool
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> how would i install grub fresh, I have already installed linux and windows in that order unfortunately...is it possible to install grub so that it detects the 2 OSs instead of recovering the old grub
[01:26] <felixhummel> Paddy_EIRE, sudo grub-install
[01:26] <Christian__> Hi! Does anybody know a solution for installing dapper on an Intel G965 Core 2 Duo ?
[01:26] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: just write a new config
[01:26] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[01:26] <constant__> Christian__: put the cd in and install it :)
[01:26] <felixhummel> :D
[01:26] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: what? im serious
[01:26] <kemp> ha
[01:26] <felixhummel> !nfs
[01:26] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:26] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: never a better time to learn
[01:27] <Paddy_EIRE> constant__: how would i do this
[01:27] <Christian__> lol than booting stops at "Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel"
[01:27] <constant__> hehe
[01:27] <Elettra> Ciao !
[01:27] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: google for a how-to on that
[01:27] <kemp> ha!ha!
[01:27] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: im used to lilo
[01:27] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[01:28] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: to do it with lilo is pretty easy
[01:28] <RAM_JET> Hello I cant get serpentine to create a audio cd of wav files. Can anyone tell me why?
[01:28] <RAM_JET> or any suggestions?
[01:28] <Christian__> so tehre is not an official howto on ubuntu site?
[01:28] <constant__> Christian__: not likely
[01:28] <Paddy_EIRE> felixhummel: would this be correct sudo grub-install (hd0)
[01:29] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: ja but u still need a working config file
[01:29] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: that tells grub where what is
[01:29] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[01:29] <Paddy_EIRE> cant it install freshly and detect the 2 operating systems itself??
[01:30] <constant__> Paddy_EIRE: mmmm maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub will work
[01:31] <HeathenDan> what's a good company to register a .biz name? godaddy?
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> constant__: it just skipped to the next line with no output
[01:31] <iKitchum> How come my downloads are always REALLLY REALLLY SLOW!!!! even tho i'm downloading files that has lots of sources... i'm on a 7.1Mbit connection....
[01:31] <gary> I'm running ubuntu of a CD, does anyone know what the SU/root password is?
[01:31] <constant__> iKitchum: kick ur sys admin
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> gary: there is none
[01:31] <constant__> gary: there is no root account
[01:32] <constant__> u have to use sudo
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> gary: try "sudo -i"
[01:32] <gary> how do you mount thigns then?
[01:32] <constant__> gary: u have to use sudo or sudo -s for a shell
[01:32] <gary> oh right, I'll try that!
[01:32] <gary> thanks
[01:32] <constant__> cool
[01:32] <iKitchum> kick my sys admin?
[01:32] <gary> It says I am unable to execute a binary
[01:32] <gary> I'm trying sudo mount
[01:33] <nightwatch> hi guys, is somebody using ubuntu with ldap and make nsswitch.conf work?
[01:33] <constant__> nightwatch: why would you want to do that?
[01:33] <constant__> gary: what?
[01:34] <constant__> gary: did you do sudo -s in the terminal?
[01:34] <constant__> gary: and it said that?
[01:35] <iKitchum> how do I kick the sys admin?
[01:35] <constant__> iKitchum: !kick sysadmin
[01:35] <constant__> hehe
[01:35] <BelialMk1I> >.<
[01:36] <nightwatch> constant__ I tried to install ubuntu in a company and I found a bug.. after instalation and configuration of nsswitch to access ldap,the system crashes in boot. I read some on mailing lists but there`s nothing about how o fix it
[01:36] <iKitchum> how could this affect the downloads in my Ktorrent, I just feel like i'm being B****sh**ted
[01:37] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone please help me re-install grub
[01:37] <Lynoure> iKitchum: By "lots of sources" you mean torrent? some people limit their torrent upload to a very small number (e.g. 1kb) and sometimes that is the cause of slowness
[01:37] <constant__> iKitchum: torrents are slow
[01:37] <apokryphos> Paddy_EIRE: take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:37] <constant__> iKitchum: thats just the way it is
[01:38] <erUSUL> !grub | Paddy_EIRE
[01:38] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:38] <apokryphos> forget torrents, use metalinks
[01:38] <apokryphos> they will pretty much always max out your connection
[01:38] <iKitchum> yeah but, why does it download at 200kb/s on my windows and on my mac? as soon as i get on Linux torrents are downloading at 5kb/s MAX
[01:39] <disturboresiduo> the installation of my ubuntu blocks in 6% of "install of system base". in "receive of console-terminus". Why?How i can do?
[01:39] <iKitchum> metalinks?
[01:39] <constant__> 200kb/s on torrents?? not likely
[01:39] <maxx18> hey what's the deal with the new kernel upgrade? for me synaptic is saying it will upgrade linux-generic, linux-restricted-modules-common and nvidia-glx...... BUT it will hold back linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic, and linux-restricted-modules-generic..... why is stuff being held back?
[01:39] <Lynoure> constant__: been there, done that, on Linux
[01:39] <apokryphos> iKitchum: http://www.metalinker.org/
[01:39] <jannu1> any idea when i start supertux i get black screen and cursor, what i can do ? any help?
[01:39] <Lynoure> constant__: it was some widespread legal torrent
[01:39] <apokryphos> iKitchum: or are you not downloading an ISO here?
[01:39] <soundray> disturboresiduo: this is typically caused by a faulty CD
[01:40] <gary> sorry, guys, got it working
[01:40] <apokryphos> constant__: it always depends on the popularity of the torrent. I've had 1.5meg/sec before on a torrent
[01:40] <soundray> disturboresiduo: use the "Check CD" option from the boot menu
[01:40] <gary> First time i've run ubuntu from a CD - very impressive
[01:40] <apokryphos> constant__: but then we metalinks I *always* get 2meg/sec (which is my connection maxed out)
[01:40] <gary> Does anyone know what happens to the programmes you installed, the passwords saved, etc.. Would it remember that information, or does it all get lost on reboot
[01:40] <collsss> i'm noob, i need help
[01:40] <apokryphos> !helpme
[01:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:41] <iKitchum> apokryphos, i'm downloading lots of things... various things
[01:41] <apokryphos> iKitchum: what torrent client?
[01:41] <constant__> apokryphos: i live in south-africa dude... ill dream of that connection
[01:41] <apokryphos> =)
[01:41] <collsss> and i dont't speak english
[01:41] <iKitchum> Ktorrent
[01:41] <apokryphos> collsss: what language?
[01:41] <collsss> i'm from brazil
[01:41] <constant__> collsss: what? i dont understand you
[01:41] <soundray> !pt | collsss
[01:41] <ubotu> collsss: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:41] <apokryphos> iKitchum: hm, ktorrent's generally very good.
[01:42] <gary> Can anyone answer my quick question please? ^^^
[01:42] <collsss> ok ubotu
[01:42] <heikki> maybe
[01:42] <heikki> ask it
[01:42] <apokryphos> !helpme
[01:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:42] <soundray> collsss: feel free to ask here though, your English seems good enough ;)
[01:42] <soundray> gary: it does get lost
[01:42] <collsss> soundray:  :D
[01:42] <iKitchum> apokryphos, I do see it crank up to 60 some kbs once in a while but it happens for 20 seconds once every hour or so... so that doesn't really count, it's probably just a glitch anyways lol
[01:43] <soundray> gary: some live CDs allow you to store configurations and permanent home directories, but I don't think Ubuntu offers that yet
[01:43] <_raphael_> is there a repo with the newest nvidia drivers for edgy?
[01:43] <constant__> _raphael_ ja
[01:43] <deinspanjer> Hi folks, couple of quick questions about kernel upgrading.. I was poking around in Synaptic and it alerted me that there are upgrades available, namely linux-image-generic 2.6.17.11.  However, it won't upgrade from .10 because -generic depends on package linux-image-2.6.17.11-generic, and that package doesn't appear in my list (and synaptic says it is not installable).
[01:43] <constant__> _raphael_ in the restricted branch
[01:43] <deinspanjer> Is there something I'm doing wrong here?
[01:44] <heikki> raphael: i have used this one: deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/latest/32bit binary/
[01:44] <constant__> deinspanjer: apt get's its moods
[01:44] <_raphael_> constant__: hm, I thought I had that repo enabled...
[01:44] <constant__> _raphael_: on your deb cmd just add restricted after main
[01:44] <heikki> i don't know if it includes the newest one but i have installed some 9xxx-driver from that repo
[01:45] <soundray> deinspanjer: hit 'Reload' and try again
[01:45] <deinspanjer> constant__: I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand that.  Are you saying apt-get is having trouble right now?
[01:45] <deinspanjer> soundray: Tried that once, but maybe I didn't wait long enough? ::trying again::
[01:45] <AndyVit> hi
[01:45] <heikki> hi
[01:46] <iKitchum> high
[01:46] <Orfeous> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqcyAhWzqSo
[01:46] <deinspanjer> soundray: Hrm. yeah, Reloading doesn't cause .11 to appear in my Synaptic list.
[01:46] <Orfeous> nice ubuntu movieclip
[01:46] <AndyVit> are you from miranda support?
[01:46] <deinspanjer> Side question, Should I consider moving from -generic to -686? I've got a Penium M chip.  Is there significant value in the 686 over generic for me?
[01:46] <oxygen> i will upgrade feisty version
[01:47] <oxygen> who do you think abouth feisty
[01:47] <soundray> deinspanjer: I get the same problem here. It's an inconsistency on the server side. I guess it will be fixed by tomorrow.
[01:47] <oxygen> allllllll
[01:47] <soundray> !generic | deinspanjer
[01:47] <ubotu> deinspanjer: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[01:47] <oxygen> !generic feisty
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about generic feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <oxygen> !feisty
[01:47] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <deinspanjer> soundray: Okay. It is just a little bit of a bummer because I was just about to install the NVIDIA 3d accelerated drivers, and I don't want to compile them against the wrong kernel.
[01:49] <soundray> deinspanjer: just compile them against your current kernel. They will probably still work after the update, and if not, you can just compile them again.
[01:49] <constant__> soundray: no they wont
[01:49] <constant__> soundray: but just compile them again then
[01:50] <weechat_user> Hi. I'm trying to mount a FAT32 partition on Ubuntu. It seems to work ok, but there are some directories only with read access, even if I specify these parameters for mount: rw,utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0 How can I fix the error?
[01:50] <aalhamad> to run a file with extensjon .bin.. is it sh file.bin?
[01:51] <_raphael_> constant__: I have the word restricted inn all mye deb lines in sources.list, but synaptic still says that 1.0-8xxx is the newest
[01:51] <deinspanjer> Actually, I just noticed that there is an nvidia-glx package.. maybe I should look at apt-getting that instead of compiling from the NVIDIA download.
[01:51] <soundray> aalhamad: you seem to know the answer already, so what are you afraid of?
[01:51] <soundray> deinspanjer: yes, and take a look at...
[01:51] <aalhamad> just to make sure thanks :)
[01:51] <soundray> !nvidia | deinspanjer
[01:51] <ubotu> deinspanjer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:52] <soundray> aalhamad: what kind of bin file is this?
[01:52] <aalhamad> install.bin
[01:52] <constant__> soundray: you download a bin file from nvidia.com
[01:52] <soundray> aalhamad: what are you installing?
[01:52] <andou> ubotu: With the NVidia drivers, will I be able to get higher resolution?
[01:52] <constant__> then install it
[01:52] <deinspanjer> soundray: Thanks for all the cluestick slapping. :) You've been quite helpful and I'm dizzy with ubuntu happyness.. or is that a concussion?
[01:53] <constant__> if there isn't a module for your current kernel, it compiles one, if GCC and tools are installed
[01:53] <aalhamad> U.S.rotbotic a gateway
[01:53] <petal> hello! How do I open CRW-Rawdata-Files importeed from a digital camera? I tried GIMP and also looked on Google, but couldn't find anything..
[01:53] <soundray> deinspanjer: hmm, let's see -- did you fall off your chair recently? ;)
[01:53] <aalhamad> soundary, im having a problem connecting it.. wirless
[01:53] <_raphael_> constant__: are you sure that 1.0-9xxx is in the official restricted branch?
[01:54] <dredhammer> hello folks for some strange reason iptables no longer starts at boot i don't know why it has stopped how do i get it to run at startup once more?
[01:54] <soundray> aalhamad: have you looked at the wiki information? --
[01:54] <arphetic> Anyone here has Mercury installed (The Java-based jabber/msn cleint etc?)
[01:54] <soundray> !wireless | aalhamad
[01:54] <ubotu> aalhamad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:54] <aalhamad> yes
[01:54] <aalhamad> i have done that
[01:54] <aalhamad> i also googled for it..
[01:54] <aalhamad> it helped me set everything...
[01:55] <soundray> aalhamad: okay -- good luck with your installation
[01:55] <aalhamad> but the only problem im having is i cant get conected
[01:55] <arphetic> !themes
[01:55] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:55] <LycanNYC-work> !compiz
[01:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:55] <aalhamad> mybe you can help me.
[01:56] <Ayabara> I use aticonfig in dual mode, but I want to use xinerama instead, so I get one big desktop instead of two independent ones. any one know how I can undo the ati changes in my xorg.conf?
[01:56] <aalhamad> soundray, it ask me to enter (Wirelss Netwrok Key required ) i enter it but still its not working
[01:57] <Jowi> is #ubuntu-effects former #ubuntu-xgl?
[01:57] <apokryphos> yes
[01:57] <Jowi> apokryphos, good to know
[01:58] <soundray> aalhamad: sorry -- I reverted to an unencrypted network and ssh tunnels because of this kind of trouble...
[01:58] <dredhammer> how do i get iptables to run at startup once more?
[01:58] <iKitchum> anyone got updates about the problems with the ATI express 200M ???????????????????
[02:00] <aalhamad> soundray, i tried it on my windows mobile (imate) and it workd when i entered the key.. i dont know why im having this problem with ubuntu
[02:00] <soundray> aalhamad: is it WEP or WPA?
[02:00] <aalhamad> login pasword (i guess WEP)
[02:01] <mackinac> !resolution | andou
[02:01] <ubotu> andou: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:01] <soundray> aalhamad: perhaps you should try setting it up via /etc/network/interfaces
[02:01] <_raphael_> does anybody know what`s new with the nvidia 1.0-9xxx drivers apart from the aiglx support?
[02:02] <aalhamad> yeah let me try that
[02:02] <constant__> _raphael_: its newer :)
[02:02] <_raphael_> constant__: is it faster? better?
[02:03] <thug> wht do i always get connection refused when i try to view a video stream on firefox ?
[02:04] <MrRio> wow, it's busy in here, almost 1000 peeps these days
[02:04] <soundray> aalhamad: you can use the syntax for iwconfig (man iwconfig) in that file, if you prepend it with 'wireless-' (e.g. 'wireless-essid your_ssid')
[02:04] <derspankster> thug: happens to me too
[02:05] <thug> derspankster really ? and im sure its not the connection its the player ...
[02:05] <aalhamad> soundray, i tried this also..
[02:05] <derspankster> thug: I don't thinks so, I have media connectivity installed in Fox too.
[02:05] <aalhamad> and also i tried it on network manger and wifi-rader not working either
[02:06] <thug> derspankster well i think the mplayer plugin aint doing the thing there
[02:06] <soundray> aalhamad: perhaps it is wpa after all
[02:06] <derspankster> Ahhhhhh!!! Ubuntu, Broadcom , and wireless = bad mix\
[02:06] <aalhamad> soundray, whats the procedure for a WPA
[02:06] <soundray> aalhamad: I don't know
[02:07] <soundray> !wpa | aalhamad
[02:07] <ubotu> aalhamad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:07] <aalhamad> soundray, hehehe ok . anyways thanks man :) for you help :)
[02:07] <aalhamad> you =your
[02:07] <GaiaX11> which is the best gui to format and mfs in a floppy disk?
[02:08] <soundray> GaiaX11: best is not to use a GUI for things like that
[02:09] <WolfBlade> aftanoon ppl
[02:10] <Alarm> hello. i am running apache , and wanted to add a username/password dialbox while trying to enter in a website. i did manage it halfways . i created a password file htpasswd -c /usr/local/apache/passwd/passwords <user> , and add also in the apache.conf file the following line <Directory>  AuthType Basic  AuthName "By Invitation Only"  AuthUserFile /usr/local/etc/httpd/userpass  Require user alarm </Directory>
[02:10] <Alarm> the dialog box does appear, but although i enter the right password. the dialog box continues asking me for user/pass
[02:10] <soundray> GaiaX11: having said that, apt-cache search throws up mtoolsfm
[02:10] <soundray> !mtoolsfm | GaiaX11
[02:10] <ubotu> gaiax11: mtoolsfm: a graphical user interface for accessing dos formatted floppies. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9-3-4.1 (edgy), package size 60 kB, installed size 260 kB
[02:12] <MDCore> guys..having a weird problem. When I putty into my edgy box and am at a bash prompt I can't press the letter "x". It gives me the system bell. If I run vim or sh then I can. Looked in my bashrc but can't find a culprit :P any ideas ?
[02:12] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here succeded in running Warcraft 3 with battlenet on wine?
[02:14] <anime_cell> hello
[02:14] <soundray> !hi
[02:14] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:14] <anime_cell> a thank you
[02:14] <anime_cell> guys i'm lookin for a hand
[02:14] <WolfBlade> I'v got 2
[02:14] <anime_cell> i found this site and i wish to install this file..........i don't know how
[02:15] <zumbi77> Anyone who can help me with codecs? followed the instructions at ubuntuguide.org, but there are still some media I can't see. For example viftv.no
[02:15] <anime_cell> Pic:thanx for the hand
[02:15] <MDCore> anime_cell: what site, file ?
[02:15] <anime_cell> http://zapatopi.net/mindguard/
[02:15] <anime_cell> and yes i'm a paranoid person
[02:15] <anime_cell> don't know if it'll run on version of linux
[02:16] <bauer77> zumbi77:  I instalelled EasyUbuntu that gave me an option to install a sleu of codecs.
[02:16] <bauer77> dont know if you wanted the easy way out but I took it...hehe
[02:16] <chrismhampson> How do you wipe the beagled firefox index?
[02:17] <MDCore> anime_cell: hmm. very old software.
[02:17] <anime_cell> i know....should i look for a newer version or something
[02:17] <tuskernini> Can anyone help with switching between wireless LANs with networkmanager
[02:17] <GreyGhost> err...it still doesnt work .. i did a clean 6.10 install.. still the same thing ... copletes the loading (the splash ..) but no login screen .. it used to work previously.... and i havent done any hardware change either :(
[02:17] <zumbi77> bauer77: thanks for the advice. But for some reason it didn't do the trick. And I wanted to figure out how to do without
[02:17] <frogzoo> I saw a mention of issues with the latest kernel update, is there a problem, or ok to proceed with the update?
[02:17] <soundray> anime_cell: it's a source distribution. Unpack the download with 'tar zxf mindguard-0.0.0.4.tgz
[02:18] <Lynoure> tuskernini: Possibly, what does it do at the moment?
[02:18] <soundray> '
[02:18] <soundray> anime_cell: and look at the contents. There is usually a README and or INSTALL file
[02:18] <anime_cell> k let me download it first
[02:18] <soundray> s/and or/and\/or/
[02:18] <MDCore> anime_cell: nooo. That's the latest... Um.. yeah....
[02:19] <M-a-r-k> Testing
[02:20] <soundray> M-a-r-k: sorry, didn't work
[02:20] <tuskernini> Lynoure, I have a dlink connection at home and it works with a key, but the city here has free wireless internet some places, and does not require a key... when i try to log on to it.. with network manager.. it trys to log on but does not work
[02:20] <lowfi> anime_cell, that looks like one hell of a program, "MindGuard works by leveraging your computer's aluminum-based innards to both detect and emit psychotronic energy using advanced quasi-quantum techniques." lol
[02:20] <M-a-r-k> :(
[02:20] <Zaggynl> When I have ubuntu-desktop installed, can I install xubuntu-desktop without removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:21] <Lynoure> tuskernini: and it is a really open network and not one requiring a specific mac address or payment through their webpages?
[02:21] <Artemis3> Anyone knows the cause of the openoffice "Error in function createUserSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).javaldx failed!" error?
[02:21] <tuskernini> well, that i would not know, i also have no other network i can test it with... aaahh!
[02:21] <M-a-r-k> Is there anywhere I can go to get some advice on installing a new graphics card?
[02:22] <tuskernini> Lynoure, no payment... but i am not sure about the mac address
[02:22] <M-a-r-k> Real time advice
[02:22] <Hobbsee> jenda: looks suss.  be on hand?
[02:22] <frogzoo> !nvidia | M-a-r-k
[02:22] <ubotu> M-a-r-k: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:22] <soundray> M-a-r-k: do you mean the hardware or software part of the install?
[02:22] <M-a-r-k> The software
[02:22] <jenda> Hobbsee: As if I could help it.
[02:22] <Lynoure> tuskernini: does it give you an ip address? (pastebin ifconfig if unsure)
[02:22] <soundray> M-a-r-k: which operating system?
[02:22] <jenda> (being on hand, that is ;))
[02:22] <Hobbsee> jenda: you can kickban.  that helps
[02:23] <anime_cell> lowfi: i know i'm keen to if there are signals in my area
[02:23] <M-a-r-k> Dapper Drake?
[02:23] <disc-q> is there a know bug in the broadcom wifi firmware under linux?
[02:23] <jenda> Hobbsee: I can't :)
[02:23] <tuskernini> i am currently on my home wlan so i will have an ip
[02:23] <Hobbsee> jenda: can now.
[02:23] <jenda> :)
[02:23] <jenda> kk
[02:23] <tuskernini> Lynoure, i am currently on my home wlan so i will have an ip
[02:23] <mikea> ubuntu hide my ip adress in network. How to unhide it?
[02:23] <soundray> M-a-r-k: follow the link that frogzoo made ubotu send
[02:23] <Hobbsee> disc-q: many.  only the broadcom people can fix them.
[02:23] <M-a-r-k> Someone on the Ubuntu forum said I should paste this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in to a terminal and go from there
[02:24] <Lynoure> tuskernini: then it is currently very hard to do troubleshooting...
[02:24] <frogzoo> I saw a mention of issues with the latest kernel update, is there a problem, or ok to proceed with the update?
[02:24] <soundray> !nvidia > M-a-r-k
[02:24] <M-a-r-k> So, I did that, but several questions in to the wizard it asks me things I don't know
[02:24] <disc-q> Hobbsee, also a bug related to the signal range?
[02:24] <soundray> frogzoo: linux-generic depends on 2.6.17.11, but the latest is still 2.6.17.10
[02:24] <_raphael_> can I run aiglx/beryl with a legacy nvidia card?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> disc-q: probably.
[02:25] <Lynoure> tuskernini: Ideally, try with confirmed open wlan in a place where someone else has network access, so that you can connect to irc for help if needed.
[02:25] <soundray> M-a-r-k: like what?
[02:25] <M-a-r-k> Hang on
[02:25] <M-a-r-k> Can we get a room?
[02:25] <soundray> M-a-r-k: no
[02:25] <soundray> !pm | M-a-r-k
[02:25] <ubotu> M-a-r-k: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[02:25] <disc-q> I have good signal quality under windows and no link under xubuntu at the same location
[02:25] <Mena> hi ....is there a program to open flash files from the desktop like swf
[02:25] <anime_cell> "You can try MindGuard out before you install it by
[02:25] <anime_cell> typing "./mindguard" since it will recognize the carriers
[02:25] <anime_cell> dir at ./carriers and load the modules from there."  <----- how do i do this
[02:26] <Pici> soundray: Check again, I just downloaded 2.6.17-11 this morning
[02:26] <tuskernini> Lynoure, will do thank you.
[02:26] <frogzoo> Mena: vlc
[02:26] <Hobbsee> 88.226.71.25
[02:26] <Mena> frogzoo, okay
[02:26] <bauer77> Hey I like the steel drums at the beginning of Ubuntu , however they are way to loud. Is there any way to turn the volume down without completely disabling it?
[02:26] <Lynoure> tuskernini: Good luck, sorry I was not much assistance now.
[02:26] <anime_cell> do i sudo ./mindgaurd
[02:27] <M-a-r-k> Okay, my card is a Guillemot Maxi Gamer Cougar.  The first question is "Select the desired X server driver". I was told that's Vesa
[02:27] <soundray> Pici: checked again, problem still present. Using gb.archive of amd64
[02:27] <Pici> soundray: Ah, Okay
[02:27] <M-a-r-k> Next they want me to enter an identifier for my video card
[02:28] <M-a-r-k> That would be "Maxi gamer Cougar" or "Guillemot Maxi Gamer Couger"?
[02:28] <soundray> M-a-r-k: forget the dpkg-reconfigure for now. Just go through to the end, accepting all the defaults.
[02:28] <M-a-r-k> cougar
[02:28] <soundray> M-a-r-k: then look at the pm that ubotu sent you, and follow the instructions behind that link.
[02:29] <pabix> et il vous dit un bonjour trs chaleureux du coup
[02:29] <chrismhampson> I have clamav and spamassassin services enabled. Does this mean they are both working or are other steps needed?
[02:29] <soundray> !fr | pabix
[02:29] <ubotu> pabix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:29] <disc-q> !de disc-q
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de disc-q - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <pabix> oh, excuse me, I thought I was on french-speaking :)
[02:30] <M-a-r-k> Lunch!
[02:30] <soundray> disc-q: du suchst nach #ubuntu-de
[02:30] <disc-q> soundray, danke.
[02:30] <pabix> soundray: sorry once again :)
[02:30] <soundray> pabix: pas de probleme pas
[02:31] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> no matter...i figured it out for myself ...'
[02:31] <pabix> soundray: however, I was telling you that installing the "comixcursors" package provides you several nice features with your mouse
[02:31] <pabix> like a transparent cursor theme
[02:31] <pabix> with mouse shadow, and nice shapes
[02:32] <kazukisan> I have a HP Pavilion dv6000 with a nvidia video card in it, I have installed ubuntu, live cd worked first time while i installed now it does the same thing that the installed version does, which is when it try's to go into X it freeze's and does this black to tan loop but its a bunch of lines. sometimes also in the recovery mode which works it freeze's out of random. ive tried changing drivers and rez and booted with noacpi, any su
[02:32] <kazukisan> gestions
[02:33] <tiredbones> I'm having problems installing Edgy 6.10 on my  Dell Inspiron 1501,doesn't recognise the hard drive, but I see a lot of people are having this problem. I found  a howto by a blogger name redDead at this site. http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/. Is this the most common way to fix the problem?
[02:33] <pabix> kazukisan: did you launch the live-CD with some starting options?
[02:33] <kazukisan> pabix: no not the first time i used it
[02:33] <mr_daniel> does someone here got the canon iP5200R and have successfully install it on ubuntu edgy ?
[02:34] <pabix> kazukisan: did you try some "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[02:34] <mr_daniel> I have try it, but I can't establish a connection to the printer
[02:34] <pabix> (with sudo of course)
[02:34] <kazukisan> pabix, yes
[02:34] <pabix> so I've no clue :)
[02:34] <kazukisan> :P
[02:34] <mr_daniel> also the program 'cngpijmon' isn't running at me
[02:35] <mr_daniel> everytime I want to start 'cngpijmon' it reports an error message:
[02:35] <mr_daniel> (cngpijmon:14913): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_convert_with_fallback: assertion `str != NULL' failed
[02:35] <mr_daniel> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:35] <soundray> tiredbones: you mean 'acpi=nomsi'?
[02:36] <anime_cell> guys the install read me says it can run the program without installing it ..........wat is the command to do this *do i still need to unpack it, if so how
[02:36] <ConstyXIV> how do you restore the default splash in edgy?
[02:36] <pabix> anime_cell: to do what?
[02:36] <soundray> anime_cell: I told you how to unpack it
[02:37] <tiredbones> soundray, I'm not sure what you are asking me.
[02:37] <anime_cell> then i didn't understand
[02:37] <ConstyXIV> anime_cell: you probably just need to use file-roller to unpack it, then find the binary in the folder it spills out
[02:37] <shadeofgrey> okay folks.  group guidance needed.  i have the 15" macbookpro and i want an wxternal monitor.  anybody here seen the 15" mbp used with the dell 30" display?
[02:37] <grims> i have a built in webcam in my laptop, anyone have a clue to get it working
[02:37] <grims> ?
[02:37] <soundray> tiredbones: what suggestion does the blogger make which you are unsure about?
[02:37] <soundray> anime_cell: it's a source distribution. Unpack the download with 'tar zxf mindguard-0.0.0.4.tgz'
[02:38] <shadeofgrey> its half  as expensive to go with the 24" -- but ive never bought the top of the line anything - and i think i deserve it
[02:38] <ConstyXIV> soundray: that's tar zxvf
[02:38] <grims> i have a built in webcam in my laptop, anyone have a clue to get it working ?
[02:38] <anime_cell> soundray:must i just type that in my terminal
[02:38] <shadeofgrey> but i dont want to waste money on it if anybody has had issues using it
[02:38] <ConstyXIV> anime_cell: yes
[02:38] <soundray> ConstyXIV: read the man page before you attempt to correct experienced people
[02:38] <hbaigu> ConstyXIV, the v print the files, that is no slow if it is a large archive
[02:39] <anime_cell> with or with out sudo
[02:39] <hbaigu> more
[02:39] <bXi> is it possible to get glx stuff on a gforce 2?
[02:39] <tiredbones> soundray, The who procedure to fix the hard drive problem. It seems pretty lengthy.
[02:39] <soundray> anime_cell: yes
[02:39] <Turgon> Is there a program to convert ".ratDVD" files to ".iso" ones in Ubuntu? I have been searching a bit but it seems that there isn't. Thanks for your time.
[02:39] <ConstyXIV> Turgon: what's ratdvd?
[02:40] <piedoggie> I have a disk that was managed by LVM.  I no longer have the LVM magic settings and I need to be able to mount that disk.  Any pointers as to how I can do this?
[02:40] <Artemis3> a silly windows program that could be replaced by shrinkdvd or something decent
[02:41] <anime_cell> soundray: it sayz no such file or directory
[02:41] <soundray> tiredbones: can you give me a direct link to the procedure you are referring to? I can't seem to see it
[02:41] <ConstyXIV> Turgon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratdvd#Criticism
[02:41] <Ro1> hey i need help quick plz
[02:41] <soundray> anime_cell: do a 'cd $HOME/Desktop' first. That's probably the location where you downloaded the archive to.
[02:41] <Turgon> ConstyXIV : It is a file type that compresses a lot a movie DVD (or so I have read)
[02:41] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !ask | Ro1
[02:41] <ubotu> Ro1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:41] <ConstyXIV> Turgon: you'll have to convert them back to dvd on windows, then reconvert them on linux
[02:42] <tiredbones> soundray, try this -  http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com
[02:42] <Ro1> okies, urmm i installed ubuntu then, and i had a high screen resolution of 1024 x 768 but when i installed the updates i restarted it and all i can get now is 800 x 600
[02:43] <Turgon> ConstyXIV : Thanks, I'll have to do that :(
[02:43] <ConstyXIV> Turgon: or try to pick apart the file format and convert it yourself, but good luck (both doing it and avoiding rev-eng laws)
[02:43] <soundray> tiredbones: I have. Where is the lengthy procedure you are talking about?
[02:43] <ConstyXIV> :)
[02:43] <Turgon> XD I wish I could do that
[02:44] <tiredbones> soundray, title of the article is, "Getting the Xbox360 Controller in Ubuntu"
[02:44] <Ro1> my screen resolution is messed up help
[02:44] <ConstyXIV> How do you restore the default usplash in edgy?
[02:45] <ConstyXIV> !RestoreUSplash
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restoreusplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <soundray> tiredbones: I thought your problem was that your laptop hard disk isn't being recognized by the edgy installer?
[02:46] <Ro1> i need help with my screen resolution, help plz!
[02:46] <soundray> !fixres | Ro1
[02:46] <ubotu> Ro1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:46] <Ro1> thank you ill try it now
[02:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there some packagine weirdness going on with the recent kernel update?  I am using dapper.
[02:47] <EnsignRedshirt> *packaging
[02:48] <jay> I installed the 8.3.0 fglrx driver from alberto's guide but it keeps on loading up 8.28 and failing
[02:48] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with networking?
[02:48] <soundray> EnsignRedshirt: yes
[02:48] <bauer77> anyone know why I cant get to the asterisk room using gaim?
[02:48] <Zaggynl> My laptop is connect to a switch, I had working network on it yesterday
[02:48] <Arc|weg> Tschss dann
[02:48] <Turgon> ConstyXIV : have you tried "gksu gdmsetup"? (sorry if this does not help)
[02:49] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: i dont think gaim does asterisk
[02:49] <icheyne> jay, have you tried alberto's Envy script?
[02:49] <ConstyXIV> Turgon: that's GDM, not the Usplash
[02:49] <icheyne> jay, has it been updated?
[02:49] <tiredbones> soundray, my hard is not being recongnised by the installer. When I google the problem I'm having, I get this web page for a so;ution.
[02:49] <EnsignRedshirt> soundray: OK, thanks.  I wanted to be sure is wasn't just my computer.
[02:49] <bauer77> ConstyXIV: Thanks
[02:49] <iratik> Is there a way to list what commands are being entered by another user logged onto the same server if i am root ?
[02:49] <EnsignRedshirt> *it , shees
[02:49] <bauer77> that would explain it
[02:50] <bauer77> is there another good irc gui out there
[02:50] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: unless you were talking about the #asterisk channel
[02:50] <bauer77> yes that is what I meant
[02:50] <icheyne> jay, yes it was updated yesterday http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:50] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: there's also xchat
[02:50] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: and that's weird
[02:50] <bauer77> but when I try to join it doesnt go anywhere..lol
[02:50] <soundray> tiredbones: well, this web page doesn't even address the problem you mention.
[02:50] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: works here... edgy?
[02:51] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me i am having problems with some libraries that i have installed
[02:51] <bauer77> maybe they just dont want me to learn...hehe
[02:51] <soundray> !ask | kenthomson
[02:51] <ubotu> kenthomson: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:51] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: try typing /join #asterisk in this window
[02:51] <tiredbones> soundray, okay do you have a pointer to a solution?
[02:51] <bauer77> I did ConstyXIV
[02:52] <bauer77> it just sits here
[02:52] <bauer77> if i join another room its fine
[02:52] <kenthomson> You see, i installed libfreetype2.3.1 yesterday but it is causing other packages not to be installed as they depend of libfreetpe2.2.*, so now i want to downgrade to and install libfreetpye2.2.* instead of my current libfreetype2.3.*, how do i do that? please help
[02:52] <jay> Envy script? where can I find that?
[02:52] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: okay, sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome, and try that
[02:52] <kenthomson> soundray, there i asked now lets see how it goes
[02:52] <soundray> tiredbones: no
[02:52] <bauer77> only thing I can think is there is a cap on the room and its full..
[02:52] <bauer77> yea I can do that
[02:52] <tiredbones> soundray, thanks for your time.
[02:53] <ConstyXIV> bauer77: couldnt be, else i couldnt join myself
[02:53] <bauer77> figures it only me.. I will see what happens with Xchat
[02:54] <kenthomson> sorry i disconnected if any of you have something to tell me, on my library problem...?
[02:54] <kenthomson> !render
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about render - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <kenthomson> !font>kenthomson
[02:54] <soundray> kenthomson: did you install from the ubuntu repositories?
[02:54] <kenthomson> soundray, no i installed from some external blockheads reposetories and i regret it NOW :(
[02:55] <soundray> kenthomson: remove the packages you want to get rid of with 'apt-get --purge remove packagename'
[02:55] <soundray> kenthomson: then make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't point to the blockhead's repos any more
[02:56] <kenthomson> soundray, but if i remove libfreetype2.3.1, then synaptic tells me that it will install a HELL of a lot of apps, including abiword, firefox, and a hundred other things i use everyday? what should i do
[02:56] <bauer77_> ConstyXIV: No luck still...hmmm
[02:56] <iratik> Is there a way to list what commands are being entered by another user logged onto the same server if i am root ?
[02:56] <phlackee> how to view a file size in terminal
[02:57] <iratik> phlackee: ls -l
[02:57] <Pici> iratik: you could check their history file
[02:57] <ConstyXIV> bauer77_: are you on dynamic ip with your isp?
[02:57] <Ro1> hey that fix didnt work
[02:57] <kenthomson> Anyone can help me with font rendering on LCDs, thats what got me into trouble in the first place
[02:57] <ttrygve> why does Update Manager show some "Important security updates" that are not selectable this morning?
[02:57] <iratik> phlackee:  list files in directory and sort them by size : ls -lSr
[02:57] <kenthomson> ttrygve, yes, you have me question
[02:57] <iratik> Pici: history file ?
[02:57] <soundray> kenthomson: in that case, use 'dpkg --purge --force-depends libfreetype2.3.1', then 'sudo apt-get install libfreetype6'
[02:57] <ConstyXIV> kenthomson: like what, AA?
[02:57] <phlackee> thanks
[02:58] <soundray> kenthomson: sudo the dpkg command as well
[02:58] <kenthomson> ConstyXIV, linux-headers-generic and linus-headers-image and other things
[02:58] <Ace2016> Anyone here know a chemistry channel? i need to name  CH3-COH=CH2    i think its 2-hydroxyprop-2-ene  but isn't it named after the alcohol group instead of the alkene bit
[02:58] <kenthomson> soundray, ok are you sure that wont break my system? :(
[02:59] <bauer77_> Yes ConstyXIV
[02:59] <hbaigu> Ace2016, there is ##chemistry
[02:59] <bauer77_> at the time I am anyways, I can configure static IP (sticky)
[02:59] <kenthomson> Ace2016, i think that name is right
[02:59] <Ro1> i need help with my screen resolution
[02:59] <iratik> is there a way to scan the filesystem for all directories with attribute -ia ?
[02:59] <soundray> kenthomson: your system is broken already. Any fix you apply now is risky. But the likelihood is that this will work.
[02:59] <iratik> like lsattr | grep -ia-
[02:59] <kenthomson> soundray, likelihood is the term i fear :)
[02:59] <ConstyXIV> bauer77_: there is a chance that someone with your current ip has wronged #asterisk, and your ip's been banned
[02:59] <bauer77_> ah, that would make sense
[03:00] <GaiaX11> I installed edgy, but I was stuck in a blank screen and when I log in my mouse (optical) does not work and them I am kicked of the x and go to the login screen again. How do I fix it?
[03:00] <Pici> iratik: the .bash_history file in the user's home folder should show what commands they have run, but its only updated on logoff
[03:00] <Ace2016> hbaigu and kenthomson: Thanks
[03:00] <soundray> kenthomson: look, you can either accept my suggestion and bear the risk or leave your system as it is.
[03:00] <iratik> Pici : up for private ?
[03:00] <kenthomson> soundray, i'll risk it :)
[03:00] <kenthomson> Ace2016, i don't know how i could have helped anybody :)
[03:00] <kenthomson> !lcd
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <riotkittie> GaiaX11: either manually edit xorg.conf > sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf < or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for a guided process
[03:01] <rpc> is there a way to reset arp proxy? i suspect it went wrong and doesn't work as expected anymore
[03:01] <iratik> !lsattr
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsattr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <soundray> kenthomson: wait, there's another option: I could put you on ignore, and you keep asking the channel.
[03:01] <bauer77_> chuckles at soundray
[03:01] <soundray> bauer77_: am I being too harsh?
[03:01] <Ro1> i need help with my screen resolution, it used 2 be on 1024 x 768 now it only lets me have 800 x 600 since ive done the updates
[03:02] <bauer77_> I dont think so soundray
[03:02] <soundray> bauer77_: thanks
[03:02] <ConstyXIV> Ro1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:02] <ConstyXIV> Ro1: that should let you set your res right
[03:02] <Ro1> ta ill try it now
[03:02] <GaiaX11> riotkittie: I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org more than 10 times, but never worked. There is no optical mouse feature
[03:02] <bauer77_> Is there any ghosting software that can be run to ghost my ubuntu install?
[03:03] <kenthomson> soundray, i don't know if the name of my ill package is libfreetype2.3.1 or *2.3.0, is there a way i can query the installed packages and look its nae
[03:03] <soundray> !partimage | bauer77_
[03:03] <ubotu> bauer77_: partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-15ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 268 kB, installed size 944 kB
[03:03] <kenthomson> He put me on ignore? :(
[03:03] <soundray> kenthomson: 'dpkg -l libfreetype*'
[03:03] <bauer77_> Thanks soundray
[03:03] <GaiaX11> riotkittie: In dapper it works great, but in edgy never worked :-(
[03:04] <riotkittie> GaiaX11: ah sorry. i'm unfamiliar with edgy :\
[03:04] <ConstyXIV> !qemu
[03:04] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[03:04] <soundray> bauer77_: caveat: I have never been able to restore a partimage backup without using the actual partimage software
[03:04] <Linuturk> I've got a server load problem
[03:04] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2123376#post2123376
[03:04] <Linuturk> can anyone help?
[03:04] <ConstyXIV> anyone tried to compile qemu 0.9.0 on ubuntu?
[03:05] <kenthomson> soundray, looks like it is going to work
[03:05] <tiredbones> which file do I put the parameter "acpi = nomsi" in ?
[03:06] <soundray> !bootoptions | tiredbones
[03:06] <ubotu> tiredbones: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:06] <kenthomson> soundray, can you help me with better fount rendering on edgy for firefox/open-office/system-menus for LCD?
[03:06] <kenthomson> Or maybe can anyone help me with better fount rendering on edgy for firefox/open-office/system-menus for LCD?
[03:06] <soundray> kenthomson: System-Preferences-Font, activate Subpixel Rendering
[03:06] <kenthomson> soundray, did that
[03:06] <kenthomson> soundray, still i am not satisfied
[03:07] <kenthomson> soundray, do you have "native" or "autohinter" in the font-config file?
[03:07] <kenthomson> !freetype
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freetype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <kenthomson> !libxft
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <kenthomson> !libcairo
[03:07] <kenthomson> !cairo
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libcairo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cairo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <soundray> kenthomson: stop that please
[03:07] <kenthomson> what does this thing know?
[03:07] <soundray> !msgthebot | kenthomson
[03:07] <ubotu> kenthomson: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> would anyone know if kqemu is going to be in feisty, now that it's gpl?
[03:08] <kenthomson> soundray, so...?
[03:08] <Dawei> can someone help me with PCSX2? I need to set the SE_LOCK_MEMORY (according to it).
[03:08] <kenthomson> soundray, what about improved font rendering
[03:09] <ardchoille> Is there a GUI tool that I can type in text, click a button and have that text encrypted?
[03:10] <Dawei> how do I set program memory-priority in Ubuntu? I need it for PCSX2
[03:10] <ConstyXIV> ardchoille: seahorse i think
[03:10] <kenthomson> LIke in windows we create system restore points, is there a way i can do that in ubuntu so that the setting of all my configuration files are saved in a restore point of that particular date and than i can make another restore point for the newly edited configuration file for another date, and than if in the future if i want to get back to what ubuntu did in a fresh install or to what my system-wide setting were in say february 2006, than i simply sel
[03:10] <kenthomson> ect that restore point and ubuntu replaces all the current configuration files with what were in february 2006?
[03:10] <kenthomson> is that considered long?
[03:10] <ardchoille> ConstyXIV: Seahorse keeps keys, it doesn't encrypt text typed into a GUI.
[03:11] <Dawei> Probably.
[03:11] <Dawei> I wouldn't know.
[03:11] <kenthomson> So anyone can help me do what i am asking???
[03:11] <dyrne> kenthomson: in linux we call it tar :)
[03:11] <kenthomson> dyrne, so how do i employ/use it to achieve that task i am asking for?
[03:12] <ConstyXIV> kenthomson: just tar up your homedir
[03:12] <Dawei> er, so no one knows anything about how to run PCSX2?
[03:12] <frogzoo> kenthomson: you could take subversion snapshots of /etc/ & ~/.* but really, not necessary
[03:12] <iratik> I need to transfer the packages, files and settings from one system to another ... without manually copying the filesystem -- what is the best way to do this ?
[03:12] <heatman> where can i get SSL Headers? seems that apt-get does not have it....
[03:12] <heatman> !SSL
[03:13] <thug> vlc its even worse then mplayer
[03:13] <chino> how do i install ubuntu to my thumb drive ?
[03:13] <kenthomson> frogzoo, thats too technical for me, what is subversion
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <asdfj> what about the stuff in /var ? does that need to be archived as well?
[03:13] <IdleOne> kenthomson: basicaly it's a backup so just backup your /home and when you need to go back to a certain point in time you can replace the current /home with the saved /home
[03:13] <ConstyXIV> ardchoille: there is gjots2, it's a note program that can do gpg.  or is that what you're looking for?
[03:13] <frogzoo> kenthomson: subversion is a version control system
[03:13] <kenthomson> frogzoo, and why is it not necessary, for eg. now i would want to revert my computer back to all the system-default settings that were in place when there was a fresh install of ubuntu, and i don't have any backups is there a way i can do that
[03:14] <IdleOne> kenthomson: you also need to install fluxbox so the flux capacitor will allow you to go back in time :P
[03:14] <ardchoille> ConstyXIV: gjots2 encrypts the file once you write to the file. I need to encrypt a single string and copy paste it
[03:14] <Lunar_Lamp> There are new upgrades to ubuntu to install - they need to be installed via a "dist-upgrade" as they are kernel components. How do I select only certain packages to upgrade when I do this? There are some beryl packages I don't want it to upgrade when I do this.
[03:14] <kenthomson> IdleOne, frogzoo  ConstyXIV backing up the home dir will take terabytes of space if i am to do it multiple times a year, what i want is some way to select all the configuration (text) files from accross the system and then put it in a archive or something of that sort
[03:15] <kenthomson> IdleOne, MY dear friend, humuoring with a newbie could break his system :)
[03:15] <IdleOne> kenthomson: are you a newbie?
[03:15] <frogzoo> kenthomson: you need only /home/.* + /etc
[03:15] <soundray> IdleOne: is the pope catholic?
[03:15] <ConstyXIV> kenthomson: then just back up the .* folders in your homedir (theyre hidden), and the /etc
[03:15] <IdleOne> soundray NO he is
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> no, he just converted to judaism
[03:16] <frogzoo> the pope is a newbie?
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> :)
[03:16] <heatman> lol
[03:16] <aa_> hi
[03:16] <aa_> hi, which kernel do I want -generic, or -386 ? It is a pentium dual core, and -generic is doing fine. Just the NVidia driver installation recommends needs -386 kernel.
[03:16] <cmt^^> How do I turn off the internal speaker on a dell portable when watching a movie on my tv?
[03:16] <kenthomson> ok
[03:16] <cmt^^> (through the portable)
[03:16] <Pici> !generic | aa_
[03:16] <ubotu> aa_: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> aa_: dont worry about it
[03:16] <art_> hey - how can i donwload skype?
[03:16] <erUSUL> aa_: generic is fine
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> aa_ youre fine
[03:16] <IdleOne> kenthomson: I have seen you here for a while now so I know that you arent likely to do anything with researching it before and besides fluxbox wouldnt break a system
[03:16] <kenthomson> humuor all you want, looks like i am a vulnerable target seeking help with nothing to give :)
[03:17] <aa_> but nvidia driver wants to put -386 on here
[03:17] <erUSUL> !skype | art
[03:17] <ubotu> art: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:17] <ConstyXIV> art_: download it from skype.com
[03:17] <lagrimo> hi
[03:17] <aa_> erUSUL: but nvidia driver wants to put -386 on here
[03:17] <IdleOne> s/with/without
[03:17] <aa_> ConstyXIV: so it will be fine with -386 too?
[03:17] <lagrimo> got a problem
[03:17] <ConstyXIV> art_: they have a ubuntu package, just download, doubleclick, and let gdebi do its thing
[03:17] <ConstyXIV> aa_: probably
[03:17] <asdfj> kenthsomson: install kdar and you'll have a graphical backup program based on dar, if you don't like the command line
[03:18] <aa_> ConstyXIV: if only probably, I will install the nvidia driver manually. Thanks for your help
[03:18] <lagrimo> in the channel #ubuntu-de i get the message: (15:17:27) lagrimo: hi
[03:18] <lagrimo> (15:17:27) Cannot send to channel
[03:18] <kenthomson> IdleOne, never mind linux has taught me a lot and it includes sitting beside a broken system and re-installing a OS few times a month, and scampering through hope-less microscopic text on the internet about things/concepts i would have never dreamt of knowing when all i want is get a GODDAMN pacakge installed to get some work done, so i wouldn't blame you
[03:18] <IdleOne> kenthomson: there is probable a gui tool that can do what you want. is there a tool to do specifacaly that I dont think but search in synaptic for backup and see what you can get
[03:18] <lagrimo> whats the problem?
[03:18] <Lunar_Lamp> lagrimo, perhaps the channel is "+m"?
[03:19] <ardchoille> ConstyXIV: I found it, install Seahorse and it comes with a plugin for gedit. Does exactly what I wanted :)
[03:19] <kenthomson> Goody bye and thanks for the help
[03:19] <kenthomson> exit
[03:19] <IdleOne> errr
[03:19] <felixhummel> !apache
[03:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:19] <IdleOne> well then that wasnt the reaction I wanted
[03:19] <lagrimo> and how can i join?
[03:19] <IdleOne> Pici: he is upset and frustrated
[03:20] <asdfj> kenthomson: apt-get install kdar then you can select the directories you like and save the selection for next time...
[03:20] <iKitchum> alright, here'S the deal... I need to allow execution of a file but it'S saying i'm not the owner, of course i'm the only one using this computer, i know the password to my sudo and everything but I don't know how to change it else than using the right click / properties, and that doesn't allow me using the root's pswd to change it... any suggestions?
[03:20] <Pici> asdfj: hes not here anymore
[03:20] <AnAnt> I installed Ubuntu on a system
[03:20] <AnAnt> and when I boot the machine, I just get Grub stage 1.5
[03:20] <AnAnt> that's all !
[03:20] <AnAnt> what's the problem ?
[03:20] <ConstyXIV> AnAnt: no error 17?
[03:21] <AnAnt> ConstyXIV: nope
[03:21] <felixhummel> Is there a tutorial for apache on how to password protect a directory by editing /etc/apache2/apache2.conf? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP just says, that the recommended way is to modify /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[03:21] <AnAnt> ConstyXIV: isnt there a way to return the MBR as it was ?
[03:21] <felixhummel> but not how and what
[03:21] <IdleOne> !grub
[03:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:21] <AnAnt> ConstyXIV: I can't even boot windows !
[03:22] <petros_> hi
[03:22] <petros_> is there any way how to connect to a windows vpn with ubuntu?
[03:23] <tezem> Is there a reason why the path to the linux headers is named with headers and not with linux, because if it would be linux scripts which use 'uname -r' to detect the headers path would work flawless.
[03:23] <soundray> !vpn | petros_
[03:23] <ubotu> petros_: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:23] <iKitchum> petros_ look over the RDCs (remote desktop) I think it has the capability
[03:23] <soundray> ubotu: vpn ~= s/From/For/
[03:24] <iKitchum> anyone can tell me how I could allow execution of a file when root is the owner?
[03:24] <cmt^^> How do I turn off the internal speaker on a dell inspiron 510m?
[03:24] <iKitchum> cmt, cut the wires XD
[03:25] <cmt^^> iKitchum - funny
[03:25] <soundray> iKitchum: sudo chmod a+x filename
[03:25] <soundray> cmt^^: plug in headphones?
[03:25] <cmt^^> soundray - I did, or not headphones, but a sound cable to the tv
[03:25] <cmt^^> soundray - it doesn't automatically turn them off, as one would expect
[03:26] <alecjw> hi. is it possible to have ubuntu on a an extended partition?
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> !image
[03:26] <soundray> alecjw: yes
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> !linux-image
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <soundray> !msgthebot | Lunar_Lamp
[03:27] <ubotu> Lunar_Lamp: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:27] <alecjw> soundray, and ti will becable to boot with grub?
[03:27] <alecjw> *be able
[03:27] <alecjw> **it
[03:27] <soundray> alecjw: yes
[03:28] <alecjw> thanks, soundray
[03:29] <heatman> im trying to install partimage. but it seems that i dont have SSL headers install. where would i go to find such headers if apt-get does not find it or its not on openssl website?
[03:30] <soundray> cmt^^: check if you have a separate speaker volume slider in Volume Control (doubleclick the volume icon). You may have to make it visible with Edit-Preferences
[03:30] <hbaigu> heatman, libssl-dev ?
[03:30] <kanikkeberg>  Hi, im searching for the option to put in proftpd.conf that enables proftp to follow symlinks. Could anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:30] <cmt^^> soundray - I have tried that
[03:30] <heatman> hbaigu: ty ill try that
[03:30] <ddude> well hello #ubuntu
[03:31] <soundray> cmt^^: no separate slider?
[03:31] <cmt^^> soundray - no, well the pc-speaker, but that's not the one
[03:31] <ddude> my firefox is 'leaking' :(
[03:31] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I get my grub to update? I don't think it has detected the changes to my kernels, and I don't want to leave myself with an unbootable sysmtem.
[03:32] <soundray> Lunar_Lamp: 'sudo update-grub'
[03:32] <Pelo> ddude, put a bucket underneat your desk
[03:32] <soundray> ddude: which versions of ubuntu and firefox?
[03:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[03:32] <ddude> soundray: 6.10, 2.0.0.1
[03:33] <asdfj> ddude: are you using any extensions/addons?
[03:33] <Igor_V2> hey...i dont have C libs in my gcc.....
[03:33] <Pelo> ddude,  seriously,  what makes you think it is leaking ( ie : how much mem /cpu does it use and what is it opened to at the time)
[03:33] <Igor_V2> hey...i dont have C libs in my gcc.....<stdio.h>...what can i do?
[03:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> where does alsa stores it volume information??? i mean sound volume information etc?
[03:34] <ddude> Pelo: mm, oke, well i'm sorry i used term leaking, while i actually ment it was generating a defunct process
[03:34] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,  check thh /home/ folder for  .alsa
[03:34] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[03:34] <sleepy723> !glibc
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <ddude> asdfj: yeah.. a lot of extenions
[03:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thanx
[03:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> trying
[03:35] <asdfj> ddude: some of the extensions could cause memory leaks and slowdowns
[03:35] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,   files name and folder with a dot in front of the name means they are hiden,
[03:35] <rujo> hello
[03:35] <ddude> Pelo:  [netstat]  <defunct>
[03:35] <cchapple> hi all, I ahve installed 6.10 on my laptop and everything works fine except booting/shutdown. The machine will hang unless I open/close the cdtray a few times... any ideas?
[03:35] <asdfj> ddude: try disabling some of them, restart firefox and see if the leaks will still occur
[03:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, Yes, thanx
[03:35] <Igor_V2> hey...i dont have C libs in my gcc.....<stdio.h>...what can i do?
[03:35] <ddude> asdfj: yeah. i will disable them all and take a look, thnx
[03:35] <Pelo> Igor_V2,  install them using synaptic
[03:36] <ian6> I'm using edgy, apt-get upgrade -s shows that there are kernel upgrades (2.6.17.11), but refuses to install them. Are those packages broken, or is there something else going on?
[03:36] <Igor_V2> Pelo: do you know the name in apt-get??
[03:36] <soundray> ian6: there is an inconsistency on the server side.
[03:36] <soundray> Igor_V2: try build-essential
[03:36] <Pelo> Igor_V2,  no , which is why I am suggestion you using synaptic
[03:36] <ian6> soundray: so this is something that will clear itself up eventually?
[03:37] <soundray> ian6: yes, I hope so
[03:37] <ian6> excellent, thanks.
[03:37] <Igor_V2> Pelo: how ?
[03:37] <Igor_V2> :T
[03:37] <twisties> Does anyone have experience with Cairo-Dock!?
[03:37] <jessid> hello. I am wondering how is it possible to run a command automatically when one session has started, but as superuser, without being asked for the pass
[03:37] <ddude> asdfj: i meant it was generating a [netstat]  <defunct> process. which it still does
[03:37] <soundray> Igor_V2: install build-essential
[03:37] <Pelo> Igor_V2,  terminal synaptic or  menu >system > admin > synaptic package manager  :  search  "whatever"
[03:38] <soundray> ddude: disable all your extensions and re-enable them one by one, until you find the culprit
[03:38] <ddude> soundray: i have them all disabled now, and still have a [netstat]  <defunct> process
[03:39] <asdfj> ddude: after disabling did you close all the firefox instances and restarted it?
[03:39] <rujo> #ubuntu-es
[03:39] <ddude> asdfj: yes of course
[03:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, No i meant the volume levels, my sound gets mute everytime i login! i wanted to change it to 100%
[03:39] <assasukasse> hi all, someone can explain me why with dist-upgrade it is downloading evolution package while i removed in my edgy install?
[03:40] <boguh> hi, i want to mount a  partition as root that a user can read from it
[03:40] <daviey> php is borked on my system.  apt-get doesn't seem to install it (it thinks it does)  Any ideas?
[03:40] <apokryphos> assasukasse: take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic
[03:40] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,  try setting in with terminal  :  alsamixer
[03:40] <vikram> Anyone can tell, how can i install linux to iso file ???
[03:40] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, oh! trying
[03:40] <apokryphos> assasukasse: look at the section about metapackages
[03:40] <asdfj> assasukasse: because meta-packages like ubuntu-desktop are being installed, evolution is one of the dependencies
[03:40] <ddude> soundray,asdfj: and then, when i close firefox it cleans the defunct, but when i start firefox, it starts again the [netstat]  <defunct> process along with firefox
[03:40] <assasukasse> ah thanks apokryphos, i found why, then i have to remove them manually again
[03:41] <soundray> ddude: maybe a plugin is at fault
[03:41] <jessid> hello. I am wondering how is it possible to run a command automatically when one session has started, but as superuser, without being asked for the pass
[03:41] <ddude> soundray: disabled all extensions
[03:41] <soundray> ddude: is 'about:plugins' an empty page?
[03:42] <vikram> help dudes ???
[03:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, alsamixer is the volume control, just the terminal version!!!
[03:42] <ddude> soundray: omg
[03:42] <soundray> jessid: a command or a script?
[03:42] <ddude> soundray: uhm, no it isn't
[03:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, but will it save my volume info???
[03:42] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,  yeah, but you get to see all the options right there
[03:42] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,  not sure
[03:42] <jessid> soundray something like rmiregistry
[03:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, ok, now how do i exit alsamixer?
[03:42] <ddude> soundray: thanks for pointing out
[03:42] <jessid> jessid so a command, for now
[03:42] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,  "Q" I think
[03:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, nopes :(
[03:43] <Lynoure> gOLdenHaWK3D: press esc
[03:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, np, i will search, thanx anyways :)
[03:43] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,  hold on
[03:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, Esc worked!
[03:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, thanx
[03:43] <Pelo> np
[03:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> :)
[03:44] <ddude> syntax highlight in vi?
[03:44] <Lynoure> gOLdenHaWK3D: you are welcome.
[03:44] <twisties> Why does Cairo-Dock run correctly from a terminal but screws up if opened any other way?
[03:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Lynoure, :)
[03:44] <jessid> soundray only a command, for now
[03:45] <soundray> ddude: to do this securely, you'd have to setup a command-specific ssh key
[03:45] <boguh> hi, i want to mount a  partition as root that a user can read from it. how to do that?
[03:45] <thug> is there any package that alows me to watch free tv channels ?
[03:45] <soundray> ddude: if you're the only user on your system, you can do 'sudo chmod u+s rmiregistry', then a user can call the command and it will be executed with root permissions
[03:46] <kritzstapf> The following packages have been kept back:
[03:46] <kritzstapf>   linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[03:46] <kritzstapf> so how to update?
[03:46] <Lunar_Lamp> You would need to do a "dist-upgrade"
[03:46] <kritzstapf> ah, okay
[03:46] <ddude> soundray: yeah , the sticky bit, but i think it was for someone else?
[03:46] <soundray> kritzstapf: there's a temporary inconsistency on the servers. Try again in a few hours
[03:47] <Pelo> kritical,  it didn't update for me either , I decided to be patient and wait , it's probably something at the dev end
[03:47] <kritzstapf> Lunar_Lamp, same, soundray might be right ;)
[03:47] <Lunar_Lamp> kritzstapf,  I had to do about 5 rouns of dist-upgrade to get it to solve itself - I have no idea what it did though :-/
[03:47] <whyameye> I'm getting this message from "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade:"The following packages have been kept back:  linux-image-686 linux-restricted-modules-686
[03:47] <soundray> ddude: sorry & thanks
[03:47] <FaintofHeart> Ok, so I have a very old graphics chipset (intel, using the i810 driver) and Direct Rendering is enabled. However, I'm not getting the performance I was on Windows. Does anyone have any idea why this may be?
[03:47] <Lunar_Lamp> (I think it was probably not a smart thing)
[03:48] <soundray> jessid: to do this securely, you'd have to setup a command-specific ssh key
[03:48] <soundray> argh
[03:48] <soundray> jessid: if you're the only user on your system, you can do 'sudo chmod u+s rmiregistry', then a user can call the command and it will be executed with root permissions
[03:48] <albertg> Im sorry Can any package or something could slow my internet ... ?
[03:49] <kritzstapf> hm, think its time to fix this http://phpfi.com/201540
[03:49] <FaintofHeart> Ok, so I have a very old graphics chipset (intel, using the i810 driver) and Direct Rendering is enabled. However, I'm not getting the performance I was on Windows. Does anyone have any idea why this may be?
[03:49] <IdleOne> !ipv6 | albertg
[03:49] <ubotu> albertg: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:49] <jessid> soundray you recommend first what you said about ssh key, or what you said about chmod
[03:49] <Pelo> albertg,  did you test your connection using a testing site first ?
[03:50] <soundray> jessid: it depends on whether you trust the users of your system
[03:50] <albertg> Pelo, i know its slow..
[03:50] <jessid> soundray ah! ok!
[03:50] <albertg> Pelo, in the terminal i dl B/s nether kb/s
[03:50] <Pelo> albertg,  try this first http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest  http://www.abeltronica.com/PagRec/uk/01/
[03:50] <jessid> ~ssh
[03:50] <kenthomson> Can someone point me to increasing the eye candy in ubuntu?
[03:51] <kenthomson> Is beryl better or compiz
[03:51] <whyameye> how do I problem solve why certain packages are being "held back" with a dist-upgrade? the linux-image is one of them!
[03:51] <kritzstapf> beryl :)
[03:51] <Pelo> beryl is the beez knees at the moment
[03:51] <soundray> jessid: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/  -- good instructions for doing it the secure way
[03:51] <IdleOne> albertg: ipv6 is enabled by default in Ubuntu follow this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 to disable ipv6 and you should also test your connection like Pelo  said
[03:51] <Pelo> whyameye,  try again in a few hours
[03:51] <jessid> soundray man, thanks a lot!!!!
[03:51] <nibbe-linux> hi there ! anyone got an link to a newbie guide how to install nvidia drivers ? :D
[03:51] <Lunar_Lamp> whyameye, I had that problem and did several consecutive dist-upgrades - not sure if it did anything useful though. However, it has been said that trying again in a few hours may be a better idea.
[03:51] <Lunar_Lamp> !nvidia
[03:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:52] <Pelo> nibbe-linux,  http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[03:52] <albertg> IdleOne, i know its really slow
[03:52] <whyameye> Lunar_Lamp, Pelo: what changes in a few hours? Something on the ubuntu repo side?
[03:52] <kenthomson> Pelo, could you say that in english please :)
[03:52] <Pelo> whyameye,  you got it
[03:52] <IdleOne> albertg: then diable ipv6 like the link says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:52] <nibbe-linux> thanks !
[03:52] <Lunar_Lamp> whyameye, I'm not sure, but I've heard say in here that there is a problem with the packages.
[03:52] <kenthomson> BERYL VS COMPIZ please recommend one to me and the reasons therein
[03:52] <albertg> IdleOne, ill just try lo Pelo sayd
[03:52] <Pelo> kenthomson,  say what in english ?
[03:53] <twisties> Anyone know how to fix Cairo-Dock?
[03:53] <Zaggynl> Is there a fluxbox version of the *ubuntu-desktop packages?
[03:53] <albertg> IdleOne, whats that? ...
[03:53] <soundray> Pelo: the be sneeze ;)
[03:53] <Pelo> oh
[03:53] <||cw> after upgrading from dapper to edgy, i'm getting anacron emails with "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: 274: /sbin/runlevel: not found", I also get it from some package install scripts as well
[03:53] <bXi> kenthomson: beryl is a fork of compiz so i suggest using beryl
[03:53] <kritzstapf> anyone read mit paste at phpfi? :D http://phpfi.com/201540
[03:53] <ddude> kenthomson, beryl is forked off compiz, because the development of compiz is a bit slower. So beryl is under rapid development
[03:53] <kenthomson> bXi, so you mean to say a fork of the original is better than the parent organisation
[03:54] <kenthomson> ddude, ok
[03:54] <||cw> and I do not have /sbin/runlevel, is that bad?  and what package would it be in?
[03:54] <IdleOne> albertg: ipv6 is a newer internet protocol with older machines it slows down internet connections if you disable it you browser will use ipv4 and speed connection a little
[03:54] <Pelo> twisties,  I think the cairo stuff is meant to work in compiz/beryl
[03:54] <soundray> ||cw: upstart-compat-sysv
[03:54] <art_> i have instaled no-ip now how can i chceck if its running or not?
[03:54] <kenthomson> bXi, ddude Pelo Could you point me to a resource for adding things like fire leaking when menus are opened and rain on the desktop and things like that? IS it possible with beryl
[03:54] <MarcoPau> medibuntu.sos-sts.com is extremely slow, do you know any better one?
[03:55] <Pelo> kenthomson,  do you have beryl installed ?
[03:55] <soundray> art_: go to your dynamic DNS site and check if your IP has been updated
[03:55] <albertg> IdleOne, emm is that badlist empty?
[03:55] <||cw> soundray: k, I have none of the upstart stuff installed, shoudl I uninstall sysv-rc?
[03:55] <IdleOne> albertg: badlist?
[03:55] <ddude> kenthomson, its possible, u hav to play around with the settings of beryl. altough the fire im not sure of
[03:55] <albertg> IdleOne, mine.. does.. so i'lll just add that line
[03:55] <art_> kk
[03:55] <kenthomson> Pelo, yes
[03:56] <||cw> soundray: do i also need upstart-logd?
[03:56] <diminthedam> Hello, when my kernel image is updated via the AutoUpdater, do i still need to compile it (with menuconfig and make-kpkg) ?
[03:56] <soundray> ||cw: you did an upgrade to edgy without switching to upstart?
[03:56] <IdleOne> albertg: I have no idea what you are talking about. what badlist? add what line where?
[03:56] <||cw> soundray: guess so, i just did a dist-upgrade
[03:56] <iratik> Anyone up for private - there is a problem I have concerning information i cannot publicly divulge ?
[03:56] <Pelo> kenthomson,  look in the bery settings manager,  I think the fire stuff in in the extra section,  if not look around , I know it is in there,  you can also ask in #beryl
[03:56] <Amaranth> eriklo: what was that?
[03:56] <kenthomson> Pelo, i don't find it there
[03:57] <twisties> Pelo: Im using Beryl but its not stretching the dock out correctly or displaying icons unless its opened through a terminal
[03:57] <eriklo> Amaranth: Just saying congratulations for making ubuntu to the ubuntu development people
[03:57] <Pelo> kenthomson,  I know you don'T need to install anything extra,  you just have to look for it in the available options ,  and ask in  #beryl
[03:57] <art_> how can i configure apache2??
[03:57] <soundray> ||cw: that may not have been enough. It's generally better to use update-manager
[03:57] <twisties> Pelo: Which also means to run it i need an open terminal in the background somewhere which is a pain
[03:57] <soundray> !upgrade | ||cw
[03:57] <ubotu> ||cw: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:57] <kenthomson> Pelo, i can;t find it but let me ask there too
[03:57] <iratik> art_: apache2 is configured automatically - are not sure if its running - or do you need help getting started
[03:57] <Amaranth> eriklo: err, alright
[03:57] <art_> both:)
[03:57] <Amaranth> eriklo: might want to explain that next time, freaked me out :)
[03:57] <||cw> soundray: been bitten twice by that, restarted/crashed X server in the middle of the update
[03:58] <art_> im new in linux and need run server
[03:58] <Pelo> twisties,  go and ask the ppl at #beryl
[03:58] <soundray> ||cw: is a fresh install an option?
[03:58] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, i just rebooted, & the sound was set to the same level i had set it to! so alsamixer works! thanx
[03:58] <||cw> and "update-manager" generaly isn't availble on a server
[03:58] <diminthedam> Hello, when my kernel is updated via the AutoUpdater, do i still need to compile it (with menuconfig and make-kpkg) ?
[03:58] <||cw> though this one isn't
[03:58] <Pelo> gOLdenHaWK3D,  congrats
[03:58] <IdleOne> diminthedam: no
[03:59] <twisties> kenthomson: In beryl-settings under extras for Water effect
[03:59] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, :)
[03:59] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Pelo, thanx
[03:59] <jay> I got my drivers partially working (8.3.2)... fglrx fails to load though bcoz the system deletes fglrx.ko from /lib/modules/$(uname -r) when fglrx is blacklisted. If I copy it back there and restart the server, fglrx loads nicely. I've tried depmod -ae after copying the file and restarting GDM. that doesn't work
[03:59] <||cw> soundray: heh, I haven't "fresh installed" this one since debian sarge :D
[03:59] <iratik> art_: both questions could best be answered at #apache       1. To see if its running: "ps ax | grep apache" , to find the document root: you will need to find the default site : /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default usually and the docroot will be listed inside
[03:59] <FaintofHeart> When I try to run games they lag even though my hardware should be able to handle them. They are choppy, but direct rendering is already enabled.
[03:59] <iratik> Anyone up for private - there is a problem I have concerning information i cannot publicly divulge ?
[03:59] <ddude> the wow is now....haha yeah right. Worst of Windows. but guys, thanks for your input. laterz
[03:59] <FaintofHeart> I have the correct drivers installed.
[03:59] <Pelo> later
[03:59] <art_> #apache
[03:59] <art_> ah
[03:59] <art_> join
[03:59] <art_> kk
[03:59] <kenthomson> twisties, what does that water effect do, i can;t see no difference
[03:59] <soundray> ||cw: I went from sarge to dapper, then did a fresh install with edgy. Much smoother than the upgraded installation...
[04:00] <ushaba> I have a kernel question
[04:00] <Lunar_Lamp> kenthomson, you need to "trigger" it.  It has a shortcut key but I can't remember what it is.
[04:00] <kenthomson> twisties, also for rain i can so no difference on enablind it, i mean when are all effects implemened, when does it rain?
[04:00] <diminthedam> IdleOne: thanks
[04:00] <bXi> shift-f9
[04:00] <twisties> kenthomson: You have to set a key / mouse button comination to make it work. its like dragging a stick through a pond. it makes ripples
[04:00] <ushaba> I'm running ubuntu edgy 32 bit on a 64 bit system
[04:00] <||cw> soundray: yeah, except for the update takes and hour and fresh install takes a day for me to be productive again
[04:00] <kenthomson> Lunar_Lamp, could you point me to some resource that has structured information on various plugins to help me select the good ones, HOW DO I GET FIRE?
[04:00] <ushaba> I'm curious if using another kernel than the stock 386 would destroy anything?
[04:00] <bXi> if your video card doesnt support pixel shaders you wont see the rain effect tho
[04:01] <kenthomson> twisties, where do i set it
[04:01] <twisties> checking now ;)
[04:01] <twisties> kenthomson: Which version of beryl are you using?
[04:01] <||cw> ushaba: the "generic" kernel is what you want
[04:02] <twisties> Ken: continue in #beryl im in there
[04:02] <soundray> ||cw: yeah, except that your upgrade wrecked things apparently
[04:02] <||cw> soundray: not too badly, it's still usable
[04:02] <Twinviper> afternoon all
[04:02] <guitaro> hello is anyone having any problems with "The following packages have been kept back:linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386" Is this anything I should be worried about? thanks
[04:02] <guitaro> during the update
[04:03] <||cw> soundray: though the more likely cause was me switching from gnome to xfce and uninstalling as much of the gnome stuff as I could
[04:03] <ushaba> I do that every time
[04:03] <ushaba> haha
[04:03] <Niklazz> ive gut a problem with an unknown frequency by trying to enter the ubuntu setup - plz hlp
[04:04] <Twinviper> is ubuntu easy to install /setup? im a linux virgin... will all my progs work in it?
[04:04] <soundray> ||cw: /sbin/runlevel is provided by either sysvinit or upstart-compat-sysv, hope that helps
[04:04] <||cw> Twinviper: very easy,as long as you don't have really weird hardware (but then that can apply to Windows as well)
[04:04] <kritzstapf> whats wrong with http://phpfi.com/201540?
[04:04] <iratik> Anyone up for private - there is a problem I have concerning information i cannot publicly divulge ?
[04:04] <brk3> high-freq, alacarte is crashing on me for some reason and has erased my menus, is there a way to restore them?
[04:04] <IdleOne> Twinviper: all your windows program may or may not work using Wine as for the setup it is pretty staright forward
[04:04] <||cw> soundray: I'll try switching to upstart, thanks.
[04:05] <GaiaX11> Twinviper: Which programs?
[04:05] <Twinviper> got an nforcr mobo radeon 9500 is that wierd devices?
[04:05] <asdfj> it's alright iratik, we are all friends here :-)
[04:05] <Amaranth> brk3: rm ~/.config/menus/applications.menu ~/.config/menus/settings.menu
[04:05] <soundray> Twinviper: first question: yes, ubuntu is a good choice for a linux beginner, second question: no, if you want to run Windows software, you're best off sticking with Windows
[04:05] <kuw88> gi to all
[04:05] <kuw88> hi to all
[04:05] <Amaranth> !hi | kuw88
[04:05] <ushaba> I'm not sure ubuntu is the best choice for beginners either though...
[04:05] <ubotu> kuw88: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:05] <Niklazz> My TFT Monitor has an problem to enter the ubuntu setup, it says theres an unknown Frequency - PLZ HLP
[04:05] <ushaba> sort of a middle of the road user
[04:05] <brk3> Amaranth, thanks alot that worked perfect
[04:06] <Amaranth> Niklazz: did you try starting the install in safe graphics mode?
[04:06] <kuw88> where can i found program for ubuntu
[04:06] <Twinviper> soundray: i want to learn / use a new OS cos i find it continually unappealing to be a windows user
[04:06] <IdleOne> ushaba: untrue! due to the incredible community we have here it makes being a newbie alot easier :)
[04:06] <GaiaX11> Twinviper: Are you using ubuntu?
[04:06] <guitaro> ubuntu, mepis, pclinux are great newbie distros, just try them all out
[04:06] <Niklazz> Amaranth: yes, igot the same problem
[04:06] <WolfBlade> HELLO PPL
[04:06] <soundray> ushaba: what's a better distribution for beginners then?
[04:06] <joeljkp> is anyone else getting two grayed-out checkboxes in today's updates?
[04:06] <Twinviper> not yet Gaia... just dloading it now
[04:06] <jay> I got my drivers partially working (8.3.2)... fglrx fails to load though bcoz the system deletes fglrx.ko from /lib/modules/$(uname -r) when fglrx is blacklisted. If I copy it back there and restart the server, fglrx loads nicely. I've tried depmod -ae after copying the file and restarting GDM. that doesn't work
[04:06] <Amaranth> kuw88: Applications->Add/Remove
[04:06] <||cw> Twinviper: not at all.  basicly, if you can boot the live cd, it will be easy as cake.  if you can't boot the live cd, then the hardware is a bit odd and you are at worst out one CDR disk.
[04:06] <GaiaX11> Twinviper: You are in the right way
[04:07] <kuw88> the java not work with me
[04:07] <IdleOne> kuw88: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[04:07] <jay> I got my drivers partially working (8.3.2)... fglrx fails to load though bcoz the system deletes fglrx.ko from /lib/modules/$(uname -r) when fglrx is blacklisted. If I copy it back there and restart the server, fglrx loads nicely. I've tried depmod -ae after copying the file and restarting GDM. that doesn't work
[04:07] <Pici> !repeat | jay
[04:07] <ubotu> jay: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:07] <GaiaX11> Twinviper: Do not download Live Cd. Download the alternate cd
[04:08] <iratik> wow... i really can't talk about this here
[04:08] <Twinviper> cw : tried mandrake many moons ago but not many "new hardware devices" were supported... im a retired pc tech so have a fair knowledge of pc things
[04:08] <soundray> GaiaX11: don't confuse
[04:08] <IdleOne> GaiaX11: alternate cd is not for a newbie  Twinviper is better off with the live cd as it has a GUI and alternate doesnt
[04:08] <iratik> can anyone private me ?
[04:08] <ConstyXIV> would anyone know how to restore the default bootsplash?
[04:08] <Twinviper> Gaia : alternative?
[04:09] <kuw88> the java tell that
[04:09] <kuw88> Reading package lists... Done
[04:09] <kuw88> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:09] <Niklazz> My TFT Monitor has an problem to enter the ubuntu setup, it says theres an unknown Frequency, I already tried the Graphic safe mode but theres the same error, what could it also be? - PLZ HLP
[04:09] <kuw88> Initializing package states... Done
[04:09] <soundray> Twinviper: if you picked the Desktop CD for downloading, you've made a choice; don't listen to GaiaX11 (sorry GaiaX11)
[04:09] <kuw88> Building tag database... Done
[04:09] <Twinviper> im grabbing the 6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[04:09] <kuw88> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "sun-java5-jre"
[04:09] <kuw88> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:09] <kuw88>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:09] <kuw88> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[04:09] <kuw88> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[04:09] <soundray> Twinviper: good choice
[04:09] <GaiaX11> Twinviper: So you will have much more options
[04:09] <GaiaX11> IdleOne: it is not good to treat the nb like having no mind at all
[04:09] <asdfj> Twinviper: try the live distributions first to see how they work with your hardware
[04:09] <kuw88> so what can i do now
[04:10] <babo> I saw a flag icon before in ubuntu somewhere, I think it denoted a change of languages or something like that. It was probably a gnome theme. Does anyone know where I can find it ? ... It was an austrailian (I think) flag with another flag behind it ...
[04:10] <Twinviper> live = latest release?
[04:10] <babo> I've looked in /usr/share/icons ...
[04:10] <Belboz99> hey all, I compiled the 2.6.20 kernel and now I have no audio, audio files play properly, but there's no sound coming to the speakers, any ideas?
[04:10] <GaiaX11> soundray: And we are here to help them to install
[04:10] <soundray> GaiaX11: newbie or not, there is no good reason to recommend alternate over desktop at the stage that Twinviper is at
[04:10] <Belboz99> nevermind :-P
[04:10] <asdfj> Twinviper: no, live = runs off of the CD only, doesn't install on the hard drive
[04:11] <Twinviper> asdfj that sounds like a good option till i learn it
[04:11] <GaiaX11> soundray: there are people who do not agree with you
[04:11] <asdfj> Twinviper: some live distros will allow you to install to hard drive after you boot it
[04:11] <ConstyXIV> alt cd is easy enough.  I used it when I started on ubuntu, i had no choice
[04:11] <ConstyXIV> back around 5.10 beta
[04:12] <asdfj> Twinviper: definetly, that is what I did. I run Ubuntu on a Thinkpad laptop now
[04:12] <soundray> GaiaX11: I'll be happy to discuss that, as long as it doesn't confuse a self-confessed newbie. #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:13] <kuw88> can i e the paltalk on the ubuntu?
[04:13] <hoehaver> how do you install a pssword for samba?
[04:13] <ConstyXIV> kuw88: what?
[04:13] <kuw88> can i use the paltalk on the ubuntu
[04:14] <GaiaX11> soundray: Ok I will not go further, but I do not agree with you. For me it is better to start with the alternate :-)
[04:14] <ConstyXIV> !paltalk
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paltalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <ConstyXIV> kuw88: what is paltalk?
[04:14] <erUSUL> hoehaver: smbpasswd ??
[04:14] <hoehaver> last time I had samba installed...before the networked windows machine could access it..i had to have a password for samba..
[04:14] <hoehaver> I had to set it up ya know..
[04:15] <kuw88> the paltalk program for talking with voive in the xp
[04:15] <asdfj> Twinviper: the desktop iso you are downloading is a live cd, so you make sure you have the 'boot from cd-rom' option turned on in your BIOS
[04:15] <erUSUL> !samba | hoehaver
[04:15] <ubotu> hoehaver: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:15] <soundray> GaiaX11: I'd like to know why, though -- do you want to tell me in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:15] <kuw88> voive = voice
[04:15] <Twinviper> asdf : already set ! ;)
[04:15] <alex_> Hey, my sound stopped working in ubuntu, can anyome help me locate the problem and mabye a solution? :)
[04:16] <ConstyXIV> kuw88: you maybe mean like skype?
[04:16] <asdfj> Twinviper: you are good to go then, have fun!
[04:16] <soundray> !sound | alex_
[04:16] <ubotu> alex_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:16] <r00tintheb0x> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79F-qdCCDU
[04:16] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[04:16] <hoehaver> smbpasswd works.
[04:16] <hoehaver> does anyone know the defalt password?
[04:16] <kuw88> yes like skype
[04:16] <hoehaver> hjust qurious...
[04:16] <Twinviper> Consty paltalk is video conferencing software ( webcam/sound)
[04:16] <dyrne> alex_: open a terminal and run alsamixer.  then play around with the settings while an mp3 file or something is playing
[04:16] <alex_> ok
[04:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, what happened to your sound??? was it working earlier?
[04:16] <ConstyXIV> so is skype
[04:17] <alex_> it was working great
[04:17] <alex_> it just stopped working, it works in windows
[04:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, do 1 thing! open terminal and type alsamixer in it
[04:17] <asdfj> hoehaver: no, use sudo and create a password if you really need it
[04:17] <alex_> and i tried playing with the volume of each device while audio was playing
[04:17] <dfgas> bah, why is my website so slow, it used to be faster, is there anything that would slow down the access of my site?
[04:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, i think its just been muted!
[04:17] <FaintofHeart> Can someone help me? I am having trouble getting my graphics card to top performance. Direct rendering is enabled, but the visuals are still lagging. I'm not even trying to run a demanding game.
[04:17] <yellowdart> my laptop hangs on boot when initializing the network.. the issue has to be my wifi not connecting (or my lan being unplugged for that matter) any idea how to let it fail gracefully and move on quickly?
[04:17] <alex_> i will do alsamixer now
[04:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, yes
[04:17] <freezey> how do i set a root password?
[04:17] <alex_> it's not muted
[04:18] <Pici> !root | freezey
[04:18] <ubotu> freezey: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:18] <soundray> freezey: that's not recommended
[04:18] <asdfj> freezy: sudo passwd
[04:18] <alex_> alsamixer is open, now what?
[04:18] <soundray> asdfj: please don't give that advice
[04:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, just set the volume settings
[04:18] <freezey> soundray: yeah but its kind of needed in some occasions
[04:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, just set the Master volume, and PCM
[04:18] <asdfj> well, he asked that question ;-)
[04:18] <yellowdart> freezey, totally not recommended.. if you want to run as root for an extended time try sudo -i
[04:18] <alex_> okay
[04:18] <aa_> how depressing, edgy installer always fails at 24% "Copying Files"
[04:18] <soundray> freezey: example?
[04:19] <aa_> is there any way I can get more debug information?
[04:19] <alex_> but sound stopped working without me touching setting, what else can it be?
[04:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, it happens alex, dont worry
[04:19] <FaintofHeart> Does anyone here know anything about visual settings? I am having trouble properly configuring my chipset to get top performance.
[04:19] <freezey> soundray: sudo gets annoying sometimes doing it constantly and when i got a bunch of root commands to run its easier to be in root... i am used to slackware
[04:19] <asdfj> freezey: disregard what I said and listen to yellowdart
[04:19] <soundray> freezey: just use 'sudo -i'
[04:19] <alex_> I have no master volume or PCM in alsamixer
[04:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, just start playing some sound file, and set volume
[04:19] <nilsl> How do I run hardware detection after the install?
[04:19] <aa_> I know the cd is ok because I just installed another machine from it
[04:20] <FaintofHeart> Does anyone here know anything about visual settings? I am having trouble properly configuring my chipset to get top performance.
[04:20] <freezey> does anybody know how to access the mail logs for a user in ubuntu?
[04:20] <alex_> I have only IEC variations and Analog variations (A live stream is playing in the playing, but no sound is there.)
[04:20] <aa_> can I run the installer verbosely?
[04:20] <alex_> I have no master volume or PCM
[04:21] <freezey> soundray: do you know where the users mail log is?
[04:21] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, oh! sorry! i cant help then! i got the similar problem, but i think it was different now! :(
[04:21] <VSpike> What is the difference between package "linux" (Generic complete linux kernel) and package "linux-generic" (Complete Generic Linux Kernel) ?
[04:21] <varg> anyone know why a fresh installation of ubuntu cant view/open xpm files?
[04:21] <alex_> damn
[04:21] <alex_> anything else i can try?
[04:21] <freezey> like how do i check somebodys mail in ubuntu?
[04:22] <Pici> varg: whats an xpm file?
[04:22] <varg> image
[04:22] <nilsl> freezey: What mail?
[04:22] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, i just played some sound file, and opened alsamixer, cuz of some problem with my volume control. The i just set the volume settings, and it was done! i think u have something much messier than i had!
[04:22] <idefix> why does ubuntu always make filename~ files when you edit the file?
[04:22] <aa_> no suggestions, on making the installer install with debug information?
[04:22] <ConstyXIV> Pici: i believe it's the X11 equivalent of BMP in windows
[04:22] <alex_> probably
[04:22] <freezey> nilsl: the mail that each usr recievs.... say i setting up postfix and i sent a test mail to my user... i wanna see how i can check that
[04:22] <alex_> so i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:22] <MarcoPau> I have a Geforce 4 MX, are there drivers for it in the repositories? thanks
[04:23] <alex_> i dont see another option
[04:23] <asdfj> idefix: ~ files are backups created by the editor. It depends on the editor you use.
[04:23] <Pici> varg: What are you trying/expecting to open it with?
[04:23] <hayden> !nvidia | MacroPau
[04:23] <ubotu> MacroPau: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:23] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, maybe someone better than me can help you! sorry!
[04:23] <gOLdenHaWK3D> :(
[04:24] <soundray> freezey: there isn't a per-user log.
[04:24] <varg> gimp/gqview/gthumb, the only thing that can open them is the Wharf in Afterstep
[04:24] <freezey> soundray: yes there is
[04:24] <alex_> yeah
[04:24] <freezey> soundray: its to check the users recieved mail
[04:24] <pfein> any usbserial / EVDO users out there?
[04:24] <alex_> i tried posting in ofrums and that wasnt any help
[04:24] <nilsl> How do I run hardware detection after the install?
[04:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, oh!
[04:25] <alex_> ?
[04:25] <soundray> freezey: received mail goes to /var/mail/username
[04:25] <asdfj> nilsl, what hardware do you need detecting?
[04:25] <pfein> I have a Kyocera KP-650 that's detected under Dapper but not Edgy.
[04:25] <nilsl> asdfj: For my NIC
[04:26] <soundray> freezey: that's not a log though.
[04:26] <alex_> gOLdenHaWK3D, did you find something or were you just saying oh?
[04:26] <LinTux> Has anybody managed to get the Nvidia 7300LE working with Edgy Eft?
[04:26] <hai> hi
[04:27] <asdfj> nilsl: see if you need to install a special driver for it, is it anything exotic (rare) or just a typical NIC card?
[04:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> alex_, no dude! i didnt! i told you everything i knew! sorry ! :(
[04:27] <dyrne> alex_: you could maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils ... maybe
[04:27] <finalbeta> Anyone knows an alternative to sourceforge? A good one. Sourceforge is just way to slow these days. it's useless.
[04:27] <alex_> i'll try that
[04:28] <yellowdart> nilsl, is your nic a pcmcia card on a laptop by chance?
[04:28] <nilsl> asdfj: Just a typical NIC, I'd like to use the hardware detection that is used in the installer.
[04:28] <nilsl> yellowdart: No.
[04:28] <alex_> dyme, i did that, it took less then a second
[04:28] <alex_> is that normal?
[04:28] <iratik> How do I recompile my kernel?
[04:29] <alex_> alex@alex-desktop:~$  sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils
[04:29] <alex_> alex@alex-desktop:~$
[04:29] <erUSUL> !kernel | iratik
[04:29] <ubotu> iratik: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:29] <yellowdart> nilsl, you can do lspci to list all of your devices
[04:30] <nilsl> yellowdart: Yes, and it is not found.
[04:30] <iratik> is there a one-line command for recompiling the kernel ?
[04:31] <iratik> or... apt-get dist-reinstall ? something like that?
[04:31] <asdfj> nilsl: what does your lspci command tell you about your NIC?
[04:31] <nilsl> asdfj: It's not there
[04:31] <knoppix_> un francais ?
[04:31] <iratik> knoppix_: allez a #ubuntu-fr
[04:32] <nilsl> asdfj: Or rather, nothing happens ...
[04:32] <asdfj> nilsl: did it ever work with ubuntu or linux before
[04:32] <Zaggynl> iratik, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[04:32] <Jimmey> I'm helping my friend install Ubuntu 6.10 via the liveCD. Without knowing any better, he selected the normal boot option, where perhaps he should've selected the safe graphics mode option, when booting the CD - And he couldn't get X to run. I'm talking him through selecting vesa as the graphics driver now, but if he installs Ubuntu, will vesa be the default xserver driver? Or will he have to reconfigure X after the system's install
[04:32] <yellowdart> nilsl, have you tried moving it to another pci slot? lspci will list hardware regardless of whether a module is loaded or not
[04:32] <nilsl> asdfj: Gosh, yes.
[04:32] <knoppix_> il y a des francais
[04:33] <iratik> what is this for
[04:33] <nilsl> yellowdart: Well, nothing happens when I run lspci actually.
[04:33] <nilsl> It prompts.
[04:33] <iratik> mais il n'y a personne ici qui parle francais
[04:33] <Jimmey> !fr
[04:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:34] <iratik> oui... ecoutez a ubotu-- allez a #ubuntu-fr
[04:34] <nilsl> yellowdart: This disk was on another computer, I just swapped it over, so ... I know that probably many modules are not loaded, thus I need the installer hardware detection.
[04:34] <aa_> does the alternate installer offer a more traditional install method? Or am I stuck with this live-cd thing?
[04:34] <kenthomson> mais il n'y a personne ici qui parle francais oui... ecoutez a ubotu--- allez
[04:34] <marianet> hello
[04:34] <nilsl> And that was my initial question; how do you access the hardwere detection post installation?
[04:34] <asdfj> nilsl: can you post lspci | grep -i net result?
[04:34] <iratik> Zaggynl: what was that for ?
[04:35] <bulmer> nilsl: can you try  lshw command?
[04:35] <Zaggynl> iratik, It's a guide for recompiling the kernel
[04:35] <Pici> aa_: The alternative CD is not a live C
[04:35] <iratik> oh awesome
[04:35] <iratik> its just soo... long
[04:35] <aa_> Pici: thank goodness for that
[04:35] <iratik> there isn't a one-liner to rebuild the kernel ?
[04:35] <nilsl> asdfj: Yes, nothing ...
[04:35] <MikeDona> Hello there! I have a small but nasty problem with the linux image on dapper. I need to update the current running kernel but when I try to, apt says that the package "linux-image-686" has broken dependencies...
[04:36] <marianet> i have a problem with this page http://www.ntd2007.com.ar/
[04:36] <yellowdart> nilsl, i see.. hardware SHOULD be autodetected with hotplug (a service installed by default).. and yes, swapping a drive to another machine can cause havoc
[04:36] <MikeDona> Does anyone know how to fix this shortly on my side or do I have to wait until the package maintainer notices the problem?
[04:36] <marianet> when i try to open section "Suplemento NO" it saids
[04:36] <babo> how are browsers at handling png transparency ?
[04:36] <marianet> "Totem no pudo reproducir fd://0"
[04:36] <babo> let me guess ... IE messes it up ?
[04:36] <sarghm> Hi there!
[04:37] <Pici> babo: Yes, IE doesnt do it properly
[04:37] <Jimmey> babo, yeah, I've noticed that :-S
[04:37] <marianet> somebody speak spanish?
[04:37] <sarghm> I'm having some trouble installing my ATi drivers
[04:37] <Jimmey> !es
[04:37] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:37] <Luis07> using the python console in gedit, how can I print the text in the main window?
[04:37] <yellowdart> sarghm, what is your card?
[04:37] <sarghm> Radeon XPress 1100
[04:37] <babo> Pici, Jimmey: k thanks
[04:37] <aa_> oh well, at least I found my problem. Bad blocks on the drive
[04:37] <asdfj> nilsl: try removing the card, restarting, shutting down, install the card, in the bios try to set the 'reset hardware information' (under PCI usually), then restart Ubuntu again
[04:38] <yellowdart> sarghm, i'm guessing you're trying the binary ati drivers (fglrx)?
[04:38] <sarghm> That's right, yeah
[04:38] <nilsl> bulmer: Yes, it doesn't list the card there neither.
[04:38] <MikeDona> anyone?
[04:38] <nilsl> yellowdart: Yes, ... Therefore it would have been nice with a "automatic detection" again. :)
[04:39] <nilsl> asdfj: Reset the BIOS?
[04:39] <asdfj> nilsl: not sure that will work but it's worth a try before going fishing for drivers,
[04:39] <nilsl> asdfj: Hm ... I don't have any manuals or anything for this motherboard ...
[04:39] <asdfj> nilsl: not the whole bios!, sometimes there is a switch under the PCI periferals that says 'reset hardware iformation'
[04:40] <michaelpo> i tried xubuntu 7.04beta on a p2 128mb ram machine... it booted halfway then stopped... what's wrong
[04:40] <nilsl> asdfj: Ah, I see.
[04:40] <Luis07> using the python console in gedit, how can I print the text located in the main window?
[04:40] <orgy`> does anyone know a programm that can limit upload bandwidth for certain applications?
[04:40] <asdfj> nilsl: if you can't find it, don't worry about, it is probably not the problem anyway...
[04:40] <yellowdart> sarghm, i would suggest removing those drivers and doing AIGLX instead (put your xorg.conf to Driver "ati") and follow the "install aiglx" here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX
[04:40] <soundray> !feisty | michaelpo
[04:40] <ubotu> michaelpo: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:41] <nilsl> asdfj: Well, it's worth a shot ... Because this motherboard has been behaving strange concerning other NICs (but mainyl with ubuntu)
[04:41] <AlexC_> morning,
[04:41] <Conq-Joe> hey, i have just downloaded the latest realease, and i dont know how to install it, is there any guide to installing it from scratch
[04:41] <yellowdart> sarghm, and you can install beryl too if you want.. but it's not necessary (though it's really nice)
[04:41] <dromer> hi, how can I (other than opening my pc-case) see what kind of motherboard and cpu-socket I have? I want to upgrade my system with something faster :)
[04:41] <soundray> Conq-Joe: what exactly have you downloaded?
[04:41] <boguh> why is there /etc/proftpd.conf and /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ? and which one to use??
[04:41] <asdfj> nilsl: make sure that the irq/dma's under the PCI section are assigned automatically unless you specifically need to access some exotic ISA hardware
[04:41] <nilsl> But is there really no way of loading the hardware detection from the installer post installation?
[04:42] <AlexC_> Conq-Joe: put the live CD in, and it should boot up. Once there, double click the "Install" icon on the desktop
[04:42] <Conq-Joe> the ISO from Ubuntu's site,
[04:42] <nilsl> asdfj: Lol, no ISA here ... :))
[04:42] <soundray> Conq-Joe: which one? There are several.
[04:42] <sarghm> Hey AlexC
[04:42] <Lunar_Lamp> michaelpo, have tried booting in safe-graphics mode, reading the error logs etc?
[04:42] <AlexC_> sarghm: morning :P
[04:42] <Jimmey> If I install some software in the live CD session, will it also be permanently installed when I use that session to install Ubuntu?
[04:42] <yellowdart> nilsl, you can always boot from a livecd and save the output of lsmod and lspci
[04:42] <Conq-Joe> when i put the cd in , it come up in DOS,  ,have i done something wrong,
[04:42] <Pici> Jimmey: No.
[04:42] <michaelpo> cant read my error logs...
[04:43] <Noah0504> Is anyone having trouble with the kernel update?
[04:43] <Jimmey> Pici, alright
[04:43] <soundray> Conq-Joe: which one have you downloaded? There are several.
[04:43] <asdfj> nilsl: I don't know of a way to do it, as yellowdart pointed out, it should happen automatically _but_ swapping the hard disk is not something that was tested
[04:43] <AlexC_> yellowdart: I didn't think ati drivers had support for AIGLX yet?
[04:43] <soundray> michaelpo: please go to #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <yellowdart> AlexC_, i'm running aiglx with beryl on a mobility 9000 right now
[04:44] <Conq-Joe> i downloaded this version Ubuntu 6.10,, it came in a iso
[04:44] <soundray> Conq-Joe: what's the full name of the .iso file?
[04:44] <Pici> Conq-Joe: Did you download the Desktop CD, the Minimal, the Alternative, or the Server CD?
[04:44] <michaelpo> Lunar_Lamp: i cant read any logs... how... i have not tried the safe graphics mode.... i will try now... now i'm back in win2k...
[04:44] <AlexC_> yellowdart: oh right, when did ati add support for aiglx then?
[04:45] <Conq-Joe> oo, ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[04:45] <soundray> Conq-Joe: try booting it again and choose "Safe graphics" from the boot menu
[04:46] <Conq-Joe> so, i just put that file on a CD?
[04:46] <AlexC_> nope nope
[04:46] <soundray> Conq-Joe: no
[04:46] <yellowdart> AlexC_, dont know exactly.. i usually use nvidia.. sort of "fell into" this laptop recently.. i would imagine it was after edgy though
[04:46] <mnoir> On my gnome desktop I have an folder icon pointing to my home dir, complete with a cute little house in the lower rh corner.  The context menu has 'delete'  and 'move to trash' greyed out.  How do I remove it?
[04:46] <Conq-Joe> so what do i do?
[04:46] <GaiaX11> Conq-Joe: burn the image with k3b
[04:46] <Noah0504> I'm trying to install the k7 kernel but Ubuntu is telling me it relies on a certain kernel which can't be downloaded.
[04:46] <soundray> Conq-Joe: it's an image file. You have to create a CD from the image.
[04:46] <Noah0504> I look and it doesn't show up in the list.
[04:47] <sarghm> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX
[04:47] <hayden> lol GaiaX11
[04:47] <GaiaX11> Conq-Joe: Or nero if in an win box
[04:47] <soundray> Conq-Joe: look at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:48] <crazy_penguin> Hello to all!
[04:48] <Conq-Joe> So, do i need anything on the pc to start?, its a completly clean hdd
[04:48] <Alam_Ubuntu> what package would have the man pages for memcmp and stricmp and other libc functions?
[04:48] <yellowdart> mnoir, sudo rm Samples (i think that's the name of the dir).. it's actually just a symlink to another dir.. so you'll just get it out of your home folder with that
[04:48] <Lunar_Lamp> Conq-Joe, there is a very simple windows program called "burn cdcc" which will burn your iso for you in a VERY simple manner.
[04:48] <soundray> Conq-Joe: no, just boot from the Desktop CD you've downloaded and burnt
[04:49] <Conq-Joe> ok, i will give it a go now
[04:49] <kenthomson>  ANd BTW, is NONE ready to share this little piece of info: what is the best theme that you are using and where can i get it :
[04:49] <GaiaX11> Conq-Joe: Set up your bios to boot from the cd
[04:49] <Lunar_Lamp> kenthomson, take a look around www.gnome-look.org
[04:49] <asdfj> Conq-Joe, first you need to burn your iso to a CD, then set the bios of your compute to boot from the CD first, then you'll be good to go
[04:50] <Conq-Joe> ok, so when it boots, it is dos based?
[04:50] <yellowdart> mnoir, wait.. i misread your post.. dont delete your home dir :)
[04:50] <soundray> Conq-Joe: no
[04:50] <Jimmey> My friend's laptop has a 1GB nVidia sli installed and when he boots the Ubuntu liveCD - Either normally, or in safe graphics mode, he gets a blank screen. The computer's booted into the liveCD - he can switch through the TTYs - But X won't work. Any suggestions?
[04:50] <hbaigu> mnoir, run gconf-editor, go to apps -> nautilus -> desktop and unset home_icon_visible
[04:51] <VSpike> I don't get this at all.  adept is telling me I have 6 upgradeable packages, and is recommending: "linux" - upgrade, "linux-doc" - upgrade, "linux-generic" - upgrade, "linux-headers-generic" - no change, "linux-image-generic" - no change, "linux-restricted-modules" - no change
[04:51] <mnoir> yellowdart: :)  I wasn't planning on it...
[04:51] <bradley_> hi. i am deciding on a new external sound card:  the edirol ua-25 and the fa-66. the fa-66 has better features but i have read in numerous places that the ua-25 will work right out of the box with alsa (in a basic mode). does the fa-66 as well or will it require more tweeking?
[04:51] <Lunar_Lamp> VSpike, there is a problem with the repository - we need to wait for a few hours.
[04:52] <mnoir> hbaigu: tnhk - i knew it was in there somewhere :)
[04:52] <vitalstatistix> does any one here have a sony vgn-fs790?
[04:52] <VSpike> Lunar_Lamp: ahhh.  I'm glad you told me that
[04:52] <rendo> I'm running a simple server and I have a few users that do various things, like run webpages and what not.  How do I link their webpage in their ACCOUNT so I don't have to leave it in /var/www? that way they can edit it and not bug me to update it
[04:52] <VSpike> So I'll ignore it
[04:52] <effie_jayx> Hey all .. I have a question a friend of mine is trying to update his edgy and there are 2 upgrads that just wont install due to dependency problems... the package linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic can't be installed :S
[04:52] <Lunar_Lamp> VSpike, I don't think upgrading will break it, but it will just not really do much as the packages can't be installed.
[04:53] <Lunar_Lamp> effie_jayx, there is a problem with the repositories - he can ignore those for now.
[04:53] <soundray> effie_jayx: there is an inconsistency on the server at the moment. It will go away.
[04:53] <Lunar_Lamp> It should be resolved in a few hours/
[04:53] <hbaigu> rendo, make a symbolic link to a dir in the user home
[04:53] <rendo> To var/www?
[04:53] <VSpike> Lunar_Lamp: do you understand what the diff between "linux" and "linux-generic" is?  Is one a virtual package?
[04:53] <mnoir> rendo - you need to learn how to configure the userdir module
[04:53] <Conq-Joe> ok im burning the image now
[04:54] <vitalstatistix>  does any one here have a sony vgn-fs790?
[04:54] <Lunar_Lamp> linux-generic is a metapackage yes, I'm not sure that "linux" is a package at all.
[04:55] <mnoir> rendo: i googled apache UserDir and found a pile of references
[04:55] <Astaroth_> anyone knowing how i can remove alsa after compiling driver, tools and libs?
[04:55] <hayden> rendo, or you can enable public_html (if you are using apache), which lets users host their own web docs in their home directory
[04:55] <rendo> kk
[04:55] <rendo> How do I enable public_html!?
[04:55] <Astaroth_> i installed the unstable version, but i want to downgrade to the stable one
[04:55] <yaman> do any one know what is the ls command line that give the files permission as a numbers ?
[04:55] <rendo> I'll google it nm
[04:56] <vitalstatistix> can anyone here suspend 2 ram on a sony vaio
[04:56] <mnoir> rendo: that is what userdir is for
[04:56] <rich__> morning guys is there any way i can reconfigure my sound to get it back other than reinstalling?
[04:56] <soundray> Seveas, ping
[04:57] <Jimmey> rich__: what did you do to break it
[04:57] <effie_jayx> soundray, thanks Lunar_Lamp  thanks :D
[04:57] <C> Hi, does anyone know how to get wireless internet working on ubuntu (D-Link PCI card)?
[04:57] <kitche> Astaroth_: you still have the source?
[04:57] <rich__> try to install alsa because of my quake3 had no sound
[04:57] <Lunar_Lamp> effie_jayx, ?
[04:57] <soundray> gnomefreak: ping
[04:57] <||cw> so, I have this hardware that only has drivers for a 2.4 kernel.  I've enabled universe and installed a 2.4 kernel, edited grub so that it has root=/dev/hda2 instead of the UUID, and I get a cannot find root device error.  the mobo is an older sis chipset with a athlon 1800+, would the 2.4 kernel not have sis IDE support built in where the 2.6 does?
[04:57] <Jimmey> rich__: how did you go about that?
[04:57] <gnomefreak> soundray: ?
[04:57] <Astaroth_> kitche: mh no i deleted it, but i could reconfigure
[04:57] <soundray> gnomefreak: sorry to bother...
[04:57] <gnomefreak> its ok
[04:58] <kitche> Astaroth_: well you need the source to uninstall something from source
[04:58] <rich__> i downloaded the latest alsa drivers and tried to ./configure make && make install
[04:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: we get a lot of queries aboutlinux-image-2.6.17.11 not being available
[04:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: although it's referenced by linux-image-generic
[04:58] <effie_jayx> :
[04:58] <Astaroth_> kitche: will it work when i just configure it as i did when installing?
[04:58] <effie_jayx> Lunar_Lamp,  for the advice :D
[04:58] <rich__> i dont understand why quake3 has no sound and it runs perfectly fine
[04:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: I was going to file a bug, but can you confirm that's the right thing to do?
[04:59] <kitche> Astaroth_: well you would have to reinstall it also] 
[04:59] <gnomefreak> soundray: what makes them think its not .11?
[04:59] <Astaroth_> kitche: and how can i uninstall then?
[04:59] <Lunar_Lamp> !bot
[04:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:59] <rich__> alot of people has had that problem and the only way i seen was to download ioquake3 to fix it but then you can't play half the servers because ioquake3 doesn't have punkbuster suport
[04:59] <yaman> do any one know what is the ls command line that give the files permission as a numbers ?
[04:59] <soundray> gnomefreak: linux-image-generic: Depends: linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic  but it is not installable
[05:00] <kitche> Astaroth_: make uninstall usually works int he fodler of the source
[05:00] <gnomefreak> soundray: ah yeah file a bug on that
[05:00] <GaiaX11> rich__: It is not morning here :-)
[05:00] <rich__> :P
[05:00] <soundray> gnomefreak: against linux-source-2.6.17?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> soundray: that was something they were talking about earlier iirc
[05:00] <rich__> its 11am here in sunny florida :P
[05:00] <hayden> yaman, ls -la
[05:00] <gnomefreak> yes
[05:00] <soundray> gnomefreak: cheers
[05:00] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:00] <slyfox> This is insane. Can someone pelase help ! My Console is not working - ctrl+alt-F1 gives me a black ascreen only !
[05:01] <yaman> hayden: thanx
[05:01] <||cw> VFS: cannot open root device hda2 or 03:02
[05:01] <rich__> slyfox try doing ctrl alt f2-f8
[05:01] <Toma-> slyfox_: did you remove all your getty's from /etc/initd?
[05:01] <iratik_x21> How do you reset your root password when you've forgotten it ? (I thought there was a apage with several methods of doing this) - all i can find is an entry on ubuntuguide.org involving passwd
[05:01] <||cw> i don't follwo the 03:02 bit since it's hda and there are no other driver controlers
[05:01] <Pici> iratik_x21: Ubuntu does not by default use a root password
[05:01] <iratik_x21> sigh....
[05:01] <Jimmey> iratik_x21: , boot into "recovery mode"
[05:01] <slyfox_> Toma-: "getty" ?
[05:01] <iratik_x21> super user password - you know what i mean
[05:02] <rich__> im becoming an expert on reinstallation :)
[05:02] <Lunar_Lamp> !linux-generic is There are currently problems with the linux-generic metapackage in the ubuntu repositories. Whilst attempting to upgrade probably won't damage, it's not advised and the repositories should be updated in a few hours
[05:02] <Toma-> slyfox_: its the terminal app. remove them all, you wont get a terminal
[05:02] <iratik_x21> rich_  i might need your help then
[05:02] <slyfox_> Toma-: not everything is there
[05:02] <Toma-> thats 1-6?
[05:02] <yellowdart> iratik_x21, why do you need to reset the root password.. can't you just use sudo?
[05:02] <GaiaX11> hayden: lol hayden
[05:02] <slyfox_> Toma-: please look here, maybe you can help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2621303#post2621303
[05:02] <rich__> since i screwed my sound up i may be reinstalling :)
[05:02] <Pici> iratik_x21: It doesnt use a su password either, did you set one up yourself?  By default all root access is done via sudo
[05:02] <iratik_x21> sudo -s gets me to root
[05:03] <yellowdart> iratik_x21, or sudo -i if you need to log in as root for extended periods
[05:03] <rich__> sudo -s -H goes to root
[05:03] <iratik_x21> okay... none of those options apply to my situation - its too volatile .. i had to unplug the server from the T1
[05:03] <Mysta_> how do i adjust the date from the CLI??
[05:03] <||cw> sudo su - gets you a full root shell
[05:03] <soundray> iratik_x21: best is to lock your root account again with 'sudo passwd -l'. Reset it with 'sudo passwd' if you must ;)
[05:03] <iratik_x21> alright .. since it doesn't matter because the server isn't online -- i've got rootkit headaches
[05:04] <YoshiG3> Hey guys, I just got a software update that wants to update the kernel, but it is unchecked by default. Should I update the kernel, or will it break stuff?
[05:04] <kitche> ||cw: also that's bad should eb sudo -i
[05:04] <soundray> ||cw: please don't recommend that -- you can get a messed-up environment that way
[05:04] <||cw> kitche: what's the difference
[05:04] <rich__> welp i guess im off to reinstall :)
[05:04] <kitche> YoshiG3: think it's broken there is a lot of people having trouble with that
[05:04] <Lunar_Lamp> Mysta_, date allows you to print and set the system date/time.
[05:05] <YoshiG3> kitche: well it's not exactly trouble, I havn't updated yet- I'm just not sure if I should, because by default the headers and kernel is unchecked. Should I not update?
[05:05] <||cw> soundray: messed up how, i hate it when I'm told that something I've been using fine for years is "bad" with wavy arms
[05:05] <Lunar_Lamp> Mysta_, that is, the command line option "date". You will need to read the man pages to work it out though I;m afraid.
[05:05] <Mysta_> Lunar_Lamp, I looked over the man pages, but didnt see a way to set it
[05:05] <Mysta_> Lunar_Lamp, only view it, and modify the way it prints to screen
[05:05] <kris> ??????
[05:05] <kris> hello:)
[05:05] <Pici> !hi
[05:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:06] <kitche> YoshiG3: this si from earilier we get a lot of queries aboutlinux-image-2.6.17.11 not being available
[05:06] <soundray> ||cw: 'sudo su', 'sudo su -', 'sudo bash', 'sudo sh' all give you mixtures of environment variables from your user and your root. sudo -i is sane. See also !worksforme
[05:06] <YoshiG3> kitche: alright, but if I update, if it works- it will break stuff, won't it?
[05:06] <iratik_x21> I need to reset my password - and i'm googling   "recovery mode dapper root" still nothing
[05:06] <kitche> YoshiG3: not that I know of but it's not avaible
[05:07] <soundray> iratik_x21: what was wrong with my advice?
[05:07] <DisgruntledUser> hello everyone could someone help me with my wireless network....like how do i figure out how my wireless is configured... ubuntu didnt go through any hardware configuration
[05:07] <YoshiG3> kitche: it's giving me an nvidia update too
[05:07] <||cw> k, so, magic to running 2.4 kernel in edgy?
[05:07] <vitalstatistix> anyone here with a sony laptop?
[05:07] <iratik_x21> soundray: i'm at the login screen
[05:07] <LiENUS> why wont apt-get let me update to the new kernel-image-386?
[05:07] <iratik_x21> i need to get to a prompt first - nothing i've heard here helps so far
[05:07] <rich__> fun fun im goin to have to reinstall my quake4, ipod shtuff...woohoo
[05:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Mysta_, To set the system clock under Linux, use the date command. As an example, to set the current time and date to July 31, 11:16pm, type ``date 07312316'' (note that the time is given in 24 hour notation). If you wanted to change the year as well, you could type ``date 073123161998''. To set the seconds as well, type ``date 07312316.30'' or ``date 073123161998.30''. To see what Linux thinks the current local time is, run date with
[05:07] <Lunar_Lamp> no arguments.
[05:08] <YoshiG3> rich__, hey, at least you don't have to restart every time you install something XD lol
[05:08] <rich__> whats up with sound in ubuntu :P im sad its a sad day
[05:08] <rich__> LOL
[05:08] <rich__> hehe
[05:08] <Mysta_> Lunar_Lamp, Thanks!
[05:08] <rendo> Thanks for your help Hayden, mnoir and hbaigu, public_html was already enabled!  Hehe.
[05:08] <jenda> Does anyone have any tips for a commandline latin dictionary lookup?
[05:08] <DisgruntledUser> does anyone know how to resolve my problem... is there any type of device viewer
[05:08] <iratik_x21> i was just attempting to uninstall this gd rootkit off our server - i guess the hacker had a tail going of my ssh commands and my ssh was closed - when i logged back in the passwords had all been changed - i had to go on site and unplug the server from the connection
[05:08] <soundray> iratik_x21: reboot in recovery mode, then run 'passwd username' to reset your user password
[05:08] <rich__> YoshiG3: no i just have to reinstall :)
[05:08] <||cw> soundray: thanks, that makes sense.  though I've been using su for years and the - is supposed to make a new clean env.  I would agree that just su can make with the confusion
[05:08] <wine-cursor> hi folks
[05:08] <YoshiG3> rich__, I'm actually surprised at the sound in ubuntu: The OSS drivers work great, on windows, I needed the Realtek drivers- I don't in ubuntu
[05:08] <Qew> YoshiG3: don't do the update right now, wait for a while. There's some dependency issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356257
[05:08] <YoshiG3> rich__, why?
[05:08] <jenda> I'm looking for something like this http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/WORDS.EXE , just an offline, commandline version.
[05:08] <YoshiG3> Qew: alright :D
[05:09] <Qew> it should get resolved soon
[05:09] <rich__> my sound worked great till i tried to get quake3 working
[05:09] <rich__> no i have nuttin hehe
[05:09] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: But you have to know the previous pass
[05:09] <DisgruntledUser> hello?
[05:09] <YoshiG3> Everyone else is so lucky- they don't have to deal with Charter as their ISP
[05:09] <enry183> it's possible make a selfmade mac mini?
[05:09] <LiENUS> GaiaX11,  not if he uses recovery console
[05:09] <enry183> with ubuntu?
[05:09] <LiENUS> as root you dont need a users pw to change it
[05:10] <Lunar_Lamp> enry183, it's possible to install ubuntu on mac-mini I think.
[05:10] <LiENUS> iratik_x21,  you're best off doing this without network plugged in...
[05:10] <Lunar_Lamp> !tell enry183 about ppc
[05:10] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: sudo lshw
[05:10] <rich__> ugh i have too much music on my ipod still copying files LOL
[05:10] <LiENUS> actually for that matter since the hacker is still logged in
[05:10] <DisgruntledUser> could someone help me get my wireless working its a Realtek 8185, and it seems to be initalized but i cant connect to anything
[05:10] <LiENUS> run netstat
[05:10] <LiENUS> and save that
[05:10] <GaiaX11> LiENUS: but does he know his root pass?
[05:10] <wine-cursor> trying to run this with wine on edgy : ftp://ftp2.diondine.com/diondine/Diondine500.exe -- runs fine, except the mouse cursor is active but invisible. Did search winecfg and hq website for a couple of hours, no success, any idea please ?
[05:10] <LiENUS> GaiaX11, there is no root pass
[05:11] <LiENUS> recovery console will just log you in as root as far as i know
[05:11] <LiENUS> shouldnt ask for a pw
[05:11] <LiENUS> since ubuntu doesnt have a root pw
[05:11] <LiENUS> wine-cursor, check #winehq
[05:11] <wine-cursor> LiENUS: sure indeed :-) thanks
[05:11] <IcemanV9> !enter | LiENUS
[05:11] <ubotu> LiENUS: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:11] <LiENUS> IcemanV9,  i'm ADD, get used to it
[05:12] <rich__> ok off to reinstall ill see you in an about hour/half ;)
[05:12] <DisgruntledUser> IcemanV9: okay it says that its installed and has the driver rtl8180 but when i try to connect it doesnt connect
[05:12] <GaiaX11> LiENUS: Sorry I was thinking in a debian way
[05:12] <iratik_x21> argh... rebooting in recovery mode asked me 'root password for maintainence'
[05:12] <LiENUS> iratik_x21, ok bring up the command line for grub..
[05:12] <LiENUS> the ability to edit the command line for a boot...
[05:13] <LiENUS> and add "init=/bin/sh" to the end
[05:13] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: i don't know much about rtl8180, but is it up and running?
[05:13] <LiENUS> ubuntu really shouldnt ask for a root pw... since there isnt supposed to be one set
[05:13] <kitche> LiENUS: he set one
[05:13] <iratik_x21> LieNUS: alright .. so    press c and init=/bin/sh
[05:14] <LiENUS> kitche, my guess is the hackers did
[05:14] <iratik_x21> i didn't enable a password for root. i always typed sudo -s
[05:14] <LiENUS> iratik_x21,  i think so... been a while since i did it
[05:14] <GaiaX11> IcemanV9: I have one here in my pc and it is running at full!
[05:14] <iratik_x21> LiENUS: am i screwed
[05:14] <DisgruntledUser> IcemanV9: if by up and running you mean i am able to see it on that command you age me then yes.. otherwise no its not connecting to my network... and on my router im not even seeing anything that remotely suggests its even trying
[05:14] <LiENUS> nah do the init=/bin/sh thing
[05:14] <iratik_x21> grub > init=/bin/sh
[05:15] <iratik_x21> Error 27 : Unrecognized Command
[05:15] <LiENUS> if worst comes to worst, boot with a livecd, mount the drive and edit /etc/shadow (will be something like /mnt/etc/shadow on the livecd) and put a * for roots pw
[05:15] <IcemanV9> GaiaX11: can u help DisgruntledUser with rtl8180 problem?
[05:15] <LiENUS> ok then its not c
[05:15] <LiENUS> i think its e
[05:15] <DisgruntledUser> IcemanV9: plus its trying to connect to subnet 255.255.255.255 and mines 255.255.255.0
[05:15] <mrstocks> hi how do i install a remote printer in ubuntu.
[05:15] <mrstocks> Its a network printer
[05:15] <dromer> hi, can I see what kind of socket my cpu has without opening my pc-case?
[05:15] <GaiaX11> IcemanV9: Which?
[05:15] <twisties> !gnome-dock
[05:15] <ubotu> gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[05:15] <Jimmey> dromer, run cpu-z
[05:15] <iratik_x21> LiENUS: alright i see  4 options
[05:16] <iratik_x21> root, kernel, initrd, boot
[05:16] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: me
[05:16] <Zopf`afk> mrstocks: System > Administration > Printing > New Printer
[05:16] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: ah. that's why it is not connecting to the Internet. hm.
[05:16] <dromer> !cpu-z
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpu-z - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <jagga> can any one tell me how to get the screenresolution
[05:16] <LiENUS> one sec let me look up the grub docs so i can be certain...
[05:16] <mahatma> Hello. I have a problem with fonts. I've installed all fonts that I can find, but I can't seem to find the one that is required for the application I need to run. When I start it, it says: 2007-02-08 17:09 XLoadQueryFont: failed creating font set -*-times-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646,-*-times-medium-r-*-*-11-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-5,-*-*-*-r-*-*-10,*. I run xlsfonts -fn with those fonts, but it returns no results. I then run xlsfonts with
[05:16] <Pici> !paste
[05:16] <jagga> i have intel grap card
[05:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:16] <GaiaX11> IcemanV9: Which is the problem?
[05:16] <mrstocks> Zopf i have no Administration
[05:16] <asdfj> dromer, do a 'more /proc/cpuinfo'
[05:16] <mrstocks> Zopf in the system menu
[05:16] <asdfj> then lookup  your CPU on the web
[05:16] <DisgruntledUser> IcemanV9: agreed.... i thought it would automagically go to the subnet 255.255.255.0 since thats the default for most routers
[05:17] <dromer> asdfj: thnx, but I can't see the socket in there
[05:17] <IcemanV9> GaiaX11: DisgruntledUser is having a problem with rtl8180. cannot connect to the Internet
[05:17] <Zopf`afk> mrstocks, which version of ubuntu do you have?
[05:17] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: yep
[05:17] <mrstocks> edgy
[05:17] <asdfj> dromer, you get CPU model from there and then based on the model go to Google and find the socket
[05:17] <Zopf`afk> mrstocks, which language?
[05:17] <mrstocks> Zopf English
[05:17] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: my wireless is installed and seems to be working but it cant connect due to it trying to automatically searching on subnet 255.255.255.255
[05:18] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Have you installed your card?
[05:18] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: its integrated
[05:18] <Zopf`afk> mrstocks, type "gnome-cups-manager" in your console
[05:18] <kenthomson> Some HELP, when i open a link from x-chat GNOME web-browser opens instead of firefox how do i set it so that firefox opens?
[05:18] <mrstocks> Zopf cups server could not be located
[05:18] <Zopf`afk> uff
[05:18] <Jimmey> Right click on the link, and tell it to use firefox, kenthomson
[05:19] <mrstocks> Zopf im under KDE thats why, its a hybrid box :)
[05:19] <BelialMkII> Kenman: its in the xchat preferences
[05:19] <Zopf`afk> mrstocks, you shure you have ubunutu, noch kubunut or something?
[05:19] <dromer> asdfj: how can I see what motherboard I have? I can google for possible cpu's that way (want to upgrade my amd 1700+ system)
[05:19] <YoshiG3> Anyone here play Counter Strike 1.6 with wine?
[05:19] <Zopf`afk> ah I see
[05:19] <mrstocks> Zopf i have kde, e17, gnome ... ect...
[05:19] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Are you in an intranet?
[05:19] <dromer> YoshiG3: I've done it a couple times (using steam)
[05:19] <mrstocks> Zopf but if i start cups might work ebtter
[05:19] <Jimmey> dromer, best to open the case. You'll probably have a socket 462
[05:19] <Zopf`afk> mrstocks, then start a gnome session
[05:19] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: no im on my home router
[05:19] <dromer> YoshiG3: too bad it broke somehow a while back, worked pretty good though!
[05:20] <dromer> Jimmey: is that on the socket itself?
[05:20] <LiENUS> iratik_x21,  when you get to the grub menu hit e, and it should give you a long command line, put "init=/bin/sh" on the end of that command line
[05:20] <Astaroth_> cd #alsa
[05:20] <iratik_x21> LiENUS: You type e, select kernel and add rw init=/bin/bash to the boot line, enter then b
[05:20] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: Im connected through eth0 though
[05:20] <YoshiG3> dromer, I can't figure out how to run it in a window and not lose mouse control- how did you do it without the mouse going off of the screen? I even had it at 1024x768, the size of my desktop, and the mouse still ran off and got all crazy- any ideas?
[05:20] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Are you running a single pc at home?
[05:20] <dromer> Jimmey: I was hoping I could find out without opening :P (don't want to turn it off ;) )
[05:20] <asdfj> dromer: for motherboard, you can press pause during bootup when the memory and cpu information shows up and there will be a motherboard model #
[05:20] <LiENUS> yes
[05:20] <LiENUS> thatl'l work iratik
[05:20] <dromer> YoshiG3: oh I ran it fullscreen
[05:20] <Jimmey> dromer, my socket 462 says "socket 462" on it, and I have an amd 1700+
[05:20] <iratik_x21> I'm now at root - alright .. first step -- reset root password to disable ?
[05:20] <LiENUS> good idea on the adding rw, will simplify things you wont have to remount
[05:20] <YoshiG3> dromer- how did you get keyboard focus? I can't get keyboard focus with fullscreen
[05:20] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: nope theres multiple machines on my router
[05:20] <Jimmey> dromer, my pc case is open as we speak - No worries
[05:20] <dromer> Jimmey: ok, I thought it would be "socket A"
[05:21] <Jimmey> dromer, yes
[05:21] <dromer> Jimmey: yeah mine too, but I can't peak inside :P
[05:21] <Jimmey> dromer, socket 462 is socket A
[05:21] <LiENUS> iratik_x21, yes i would edit /etc/shadow and find the line that starts with root:, it prolly has ab unch of numebrs and letters delet everything between the first two :'s
[05:21] <dromer> Jimmey: is that the same?
[05:21] <LiENUS> so it looks like...
[05:21] <Jimmey> Yes
[05:21] <LiENUS> root:*:13543:0:99999:7:::
[05:21] <Jimmey> dromer, yep :-)
[05:21] <dromer> Jimmey: ok .. I think I could go up to 2ghz then (searched before, but just wanted to make sure)
[05:21] <arke> Hi. :)
[05:21] <LiENUS> some of the numbers may vary on your system btu the general idea is you have a * instead of whatevers there now
[05:21] <arke> ubuntu and kubuntu are separate CDs, right?
[05:22] <LiENUS> arke, yes
[05:22] <damjanad> Anybody knows what is up with Software Update on Edgy, It's showing linux-generic meta package (and several related packages) for update, but no description of changes!
[05:22] <arke> Thought so.
[05:22] <LiENUS> you can turn ubuntu into kubuntu though
[05:22] <dromer> asdfj: yes, ubuntu has gnome as the default wm and kubuntu kde
[05:22] <arke> Nah I'd rather do kubuntu right away.
[05:22] <Jimmey> dromer, let me check
[05:22] <iratik_x21> Alright: i made the root entry look like the other entries without passwords
[05:22] <YoshiG3> damjanad: They're not available right now- don't update yet
[05:22] <dromer> I installed ubuntu and added kde later as my default wm
[05:22] <LiENUS> arke,  then get the kubuntu cd
[05:22] <ConstyXIV> yes, sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[05:22] <YoshiG3> dromer- how did you get keyboard focus? I can't get keyboard focus with fullscreen
[05:22] <damjanad> ok, thanks
[05:22] <iratik_x21> now   - to change the password for the user admin ?
[05:22] <dromer> YoshiG3: what do you mean?
[05:22] <digilink> I have a shell script that I want to have automatically started at boot time, how do I do this?
[05:22] <arke> oki thanks
[05:23] <dromer> YoshiG3: it just worked on first install with me, just ran steam and it was fine :)
[05:23] <kitche> damhanad: there is a bug witht he update for now
[05:23] <LiENUS> iratik_x21,  passwd <user> should work
[05:23] <arke> whats the install recommendation these days?
[05:23] <Pawlos> hi
[05:23] <YoshiG3> dromer: I can start it fullscreen just fine, it runs great- I just can't get keyboard focus: I can't move or press ESC or anything.
[05:23] <arke> Still Windows, then Linux, like it was a few years ago?
[05:23] <dromer> just after some updates of wine (/me thinks) it stopped working :(
[05:23] <Pawlos> i have a major issue with GCC
[05:23] <Jimmey> dromer, it's hard to get socket A processors these days
[05:23] <LiENUS> arke, pretty much
[05:23] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Sorry in this case I don't have the net know-how. No experience with networking. Perhaps someone could help you better
[05:23] <arke> Easy enough.
[05:23] <dromer> Jimmey: I found a place, just ~45 dollar for a 2ghz cpu
[05:23] <Pawlos> guys did anyone have problems with GCC
[05:24] <dromer> 20-40 euro really*
[05:24] <dromer> 30*
[05:24] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: when i ifup wlan0 its searching for 255.255.255.255 and my subnet is 255.255.255.0 is there a way to change that when if ifup
[05:24] <Pawlos> when i apt-get it the /usr/include did not have any headers inside it so i couldnt compile anythingf
[05:24] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: which version? dapper or edgy?
[05:24] <LjL> !build-essential > Pawlos    (Pawlos, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:24] <LjL> Pawlos: you need the build-essential package
[05:24] <Pawlos> LjL,
[05:24] <YoshiG3> LjL: HEY whatsup buddy :D
[05:24] <DisgruntledUser> IcemanV9 i think edgy but im not quite sure
[05:25] <ConstyXIV> does anyone know what to do if you've accidentally killed your usplash?
[05:25] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: lsb-release -a
[05:25] <LjL> YoshiG3: playing old amiga games :)
[05:25] <LjL> lsb_release -a
[05:25] <iratik_x21> LiENUS: thanks, i think i can get this freaking thing fixed now
[05:25] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: oops - lsb_release -a
[05:25] <iratik_x21> i appreciate the help pplz
[05:25] <Pawlos> LjL,  alloe me to query you for a second
[05:25] <YoshiG3> LjL: lol. Hey, you ever played CS 1.6 in wine? I'm having trouble getting keyboard focus on fullscreen. I get focus in a window, but I lose the mouse to the desktop- any ideas?
[05:25] <IcemanV9> LjL: ty :)
[05:26] <DisgruntledUser> IcemanV9: edgy 6.10
[05:26] <LjL> YoshiG3: nah, i'm not into recent games ;P (not much into old ones either to be honest, just the couple of games i played 10 years ago...)
[05:26] <Jimmey> YoshiG3, run "winecfg" in a terminal, then under "graphics" tab, click the box that stops the mouse from leaving the screen
[05:26] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: your card should be working out of the box with edgy
[05:26] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: click in the panel and add networking monitor
[05:26] <ConstyXIV> LjL: would you know how to restore the usplash?
[05:26] <YoshiG3> Jimmey: But it's not a DX program- it's OGL
[05:26] <DisgruntledUser> i know it should but its scaning under the wrong subnet
[05:27] <Pawlos> LjL, can you assist me
[05:27] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: right click in the panel and add networking monitor applet
[05:27] <sadistico> hello
[05:28] <soundray> !usplash | ConstyXIV
[05:28] <ubotu> ConstyXIV: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:28] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11 okay its on my panelbar
[05:28] <LjL> ConstyXIV: not if i don't know how it was broken
[05:28] <sadistico> can someone please offer me advice on where or what html editor i can load in ubuntu?
[05:28] <LiENUS> grr
[05:28] <LiENUS> apparently i moved too far from the access point heh
[05:28] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: click in it and then configure
[05:28] <IcemanV9> sadistico: bluefish or nvu
[05:28] <soundray> !html | sadistico
[05:28] <ubotu> sadistico: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[05:28] <ConstyXIV> LjL: i installed kubuntu, then instlalled ubuntu (gnome), then removed kubuntu-desktop, and i have no splash
[05:29] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: It will ask the pass
[05:29] <LiENUS> iratik_x21,  you get your password changed?
[05:29] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: there is not password
[05:29] <snoofie> Hi, pretty simple question:  just installed Edgy server edition, and it doesn't come with /sbin/{dump,restore}.  apt-get install dump doesn't find any packages, and using aptitude to search doesn't find any such packages.  I'm sure I'm missing something; where are is the dump/restore package hidden, and how can i install it?
[05:29] <LjL> ConstyXIV: well try the first thing ubotu said
[05:29] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: give the pass and change 255 ....
[05:30] <soundray> snoofie: what do you mean by "dump/restore"?
[05:30] <DisgruntledUser> okay i setup the subnet and ip now what
[05:30] <snoofie> the filesystem dump/restore commands
[05:30] <Jimmey> My friend's laptop has a 1GB nVidia sli installed and when he boots the Ubuntu liveCD - Either normally, or in safe graphics mode, he gets a blank screen. The computer's booted into the liveCD - he can switch through the TTYs - But X won't work. Any suggestions?
[05:30] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: save
[05:30] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: mmkay
[05:31] <kitche> !dump | snoofie
[05:31] <ubotu> snoofie: dump: 4.4bsd dump and restore for ext2 filesystems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4b41-3 (edgy), package size 244 kB, installed size 664 kB
[05:31] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser:  Did not understand
[05:31] <ConstyXIV> LjL: any way to test it w/o a reboot?
[05:31] <soundray> snoofie: there is a dump package in universe... ^^
[05:31] <LjL> ConstyXIV: i doubt it
[05:31] <ConstyXIV> ok, here goes
[05:31] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: i saved it.... but its still not connecting
[05:31] <ConstyXIV> sudo shutdown -r now
[05:31] <ConstyXIV> oops
[05:32] <snoofie> Hmm.  So I assume I need to modify my apt configuration to search a different universe to find the package?
[05:32] <snoofie> Currently using the default install configuration.
[05:32] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Did you use ndiswrapper to config you card?
[05:32] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: nope
[05:32] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: just what edgy gave me
[05:33] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: want me to try ndiswrapper
[05:33] <Pawlos> </3 nids
[05:33] <dromer> hi, how can I make startupscripts/launch programs on startup in kde?
[05:33] <soundray> !repos | snoofie
[05:33] <ubotu> snoofie: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:33] <nojoints> how do i turn power saving off? so the screen wont go black after X minutes?
[05:33] <soundray> nojoints: System-Preferences-Power Management
[05:33] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: have a look if you have ndiswrapper and wireless-tools on you through synaptic
[05:34] <IcemanV9> nojoints: system > pref > screensaver
[05:34] <john1987> !xfce
[05:34] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:34] <Pawlos> !repos | mummy
[05:34] <ubotu> mummy: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:34] <Stephan> hi
[05:34] <Nutubuntu> I'm using OO.o 2.02 on Dapper, but sometime back I installed 1.9.100. I can't get OO.O writer to spell-check; I think it's because it's not finding the dictionary. Where is it supposed to look for the dictionary?
[05:34] <nojoints> soundray; went to system - no preferences =S
[05:35] <DisgruntledUser> nope no ndiswrapper
[05:35] <soundray> nojoints: what distribution/version are you using?
[05:35] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: its apparently working off of the driver it gave me with edgy
[05:35] <LiENUS> why wont apt-get let me update my kernel-image-386?
[05:35] <nojoints> soundray; ubuntu with KDE
[05:35] <soundray> nojoints: kindly ask in #kubuntu then
[05:36] <kitche> LiENUS: it's broken probably since there is issues with the repos
[05:36] <Pici> LiENUS: Theres an issue with the repositories at the moment, I believe a bug report has been filed.
[05:36] <LiENUS> ah
[05:36] <LiENUS> ok
[05:36] <notgod> hello.  anyone here familiar with pptp that could help me for a few?
[05:36] <LiENUS> notgod,  what yo uneed?
[05:36] <soundray> !edgykernel | LiENUS
[05:36] <ubotu> LiENUS: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[05:36] <Nutubuntu> Also, update manager notified me of some kernel updates this morning, said it couldn't install them and to use Synaptic; but Synaptic didn't flag any updates.
[05:36] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Have a look in your ip number and etc using sudo network-admin
[05:37] <LiENUS> soundray, wow that was totally redudant and pointless
[05:37] <ConstyXIV> LjL: no dice
[05:37] <indigoblu> ive added beryl-xgl to my startup in gnome-session, but still no go?  Anybody got an idea why I have to start it after gnome loads?
[05:37] <notgod> LiENUS: I have the VPN basically working, but after a few minutes, my resolv.conf gets overwritten with the default values for the local network (i.e. the remote IPs are still pingable, but DNS is, basically, wrong)
[05:37] <LiENUS> you wasted .01kb in doing that
[05:37] <josh_> how do i change my desktop background with fluxbox?
[05:37] <john1987> !xubuntu
[05:37] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:37] <IcemanV9> same problem with dapper kernel as well. :/
[05:37] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: there is no ip because im not connected
[05:37] <LiENUS> notgod,  you using pptpconfig or manual?
[05:38] <ConstyXIV> josh_: i think xsetbg (background file)
[05:38] <LjL> ConstyXIV: make sure ubuntu-desktop is all installed, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[05:38] <josh_> there isn't a gui setup?
[05:38] <notgod> LiENUS: pptpconfig initially, then manually configuring because pptpconfig didn't seem to want to actually make any routing changes.
[05:38] <kitche> josh_: not with fluxbox
[05:38] <LiENUS> hmm
[05:38] <Zenith2007> Hi folks, could anyone help me solve my lack of audio issue please.  Ive checked and its not muted, ive followed the sticky on ubuntuforums and still no sound :\ im really stuck.
[05:38] <soundray> LiENUS: thanks for pointing out my irresponsible use of bandwidth. However, since you're not the only person who has read this, it might have saved bandwidth in the long run.
[05:38] <LiENUS> soundray, someone else already said it
[05:38] <notgod> LiENUS: was trying the NetManager pptp stuff, but that barely has any options, like a domain.  :)
[05:39] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: im installing ndiswrapper
[05:39] <DisgruntledUser> gunna give that a go
[05:39] <josh_> hmmm... so i need to load into kubuntu, download the images i want and then just do "xsetbgc = /path/to/picture"?
[05:39] <GaiaX11> Have you changed the 255 ... thing? And saved?
[05:39] <soundray> LiENUS: btw, you should rethink your attitude towards people who help you in this channel.
[05:39] <Red-Sox> I'm helping my friend switch to linux...is KDE or Gnome better for a noob?
[05:39] <kitche> josh_: no you can use fluxbox for that
[05:39] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: If so before using ndiswrapper reboot your machine
[05:40] <josh_> kde has a more "windowish" feel to it
[05:40] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: okay
[05:40] <josh_> where in flux is that at kitche
[05:40] <notgod> I'm, overall, pretty happy with the gnome interface.
[05:40] <ConstyXIV> LjL: all clear, aldready installed
[05:40] <kitche> josh_: use a terminal flux doesn't have an applet like gnome or kde
[05:40] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Does your card activate in the boot time?
[05:40] <notgod> I kinda miss windowmaker, but I will get over it.  :)
[05:40] <cradek> Red-Sox: give him the one you use, since you'll be doing support
[05:40] <Zenith2007> Hi folks, could anyone help me solve my lack of audio issue please.  Ive checked and its not muted, ive followed the sticky on ubuntuforums and still no sound :\ im really stuck.  It has worked previously on this machine on this version of ubuntu, dapper, although had to reinstall and wont work now :(
[05:41] <ConstyXIV> notgod: why miss it?
[05:41] <soundray> Red-Sox: gnome is harder to break. KDE lets you change things "under the hood" more easily.
[05:41] <cradek> Red-Sox: neither is better
[05:41] <LjL> ConstyXIV: does "sudo grep splash /boot/grub/menu.lst" show anything?
[05:41] <Red-Sox> cradek: good idea
[05:41] <josh_> yeah but i dont know how to use the terminal to find a pic i want and download it
[05:41] <Red-Sox> cradek: ...?
[05:41] <notgod> ConstyXIV: the key bindings, mostly.  and it's fast as all hell.  and the dock.
[05:41] <Jimmey> My friend's laptop has a 1GB nVidia sli installed and when he boots the Ubuntu liveCD - Either normally, or in safe graphics mode, he gets a blank screen. The computer's booted into the liveCD - he can switch through the TTYs - But X won't work. Any suggestions?
[05:41] <IcemanV9> notgod: windowmaker is in the repo
[05:41] <Red-Sox> cradek: netiher?
[05:42] <Red-Sox> cradek: are you suggesting he stay with...with...*win2k*
[05:42] <cradek> Red-Sox: I mean which one is better is just a matter of opinion
[05:42] <IcemanV9> !wmaker | notgod
[05:42] <ubotu> notgod: wmaker: NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.92.0-5.3 (edgy), package size 2220 kB, installed size 6096 kB
[05:42] <notgod> IcemanV9: honestly, I can tolerate Gnome, and I am so tired of configuring machines.  I am retired as an SA, so gnome works well enough for me.
[05:42] <ConstyXIV> LjL: yes, it shows splash as an option in the kernel line
[05:42] <soundray> Jimmey: I would suggest you use the alternate install CD, then follow the wiki instructions on NVidia once you can boot to a console.
[05:42] <Red-Sox> cradek: k
[05:42] <IcemanV9> notgod: i'm just letting you know there is a choice :)
[05:43] <cradek> Red-Sox: he'll probably have better luck with online support if he uses the default (gnome) since MANY more people are using it
[05:43] <Jimmey> soundray, that's what I thought - But it's the downloading of the iso I think he might object to :-P
[05:43] <||cw> what would cause mkinitrd to not be able to find lindl.so.2 when it is in /lib and ldd on it shows no issues, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib ?
[05:43] <iratik_x21> ls: unrecognized prefix: do
[05:43] <||cw> that's libdl.so.2
[05:43] <notgod> IcemanV9: thanks :)
[05:44] <iratik_x21> anyone have any solutions to get their system back after a t0rnkit attack
[05:44] <jcsteele> i am getting a strange error with apt-get and aptitude.....99% [9 Packages gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]   gzip: stdin: not in gzip format Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/universe Packages   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) .... anyone have any ideas as to how I can resolve this?
[05:44] <notgod> So...  does anyone know what might be re-setting my DNS servers after I am connected to pptp for a few minutes?  Might be the local wireless network?
[05:44] <hayden> are there any programs available that can receive digital tv via a tv tuner card and an aerial?
[05:44] <ConstyXIV> hayden: mythtv
[05:44] <||cw> ldconfig -v also lists libdl.so.2
[05:44] <LjL> hayden: via a *digital* TV tuner card, yeah
[05:44] <sadistico> how can i install bluefish? it says to type apt-get install bluefish in the terminal but i keep getting errors
[05:45] <soundray> hayden: vdr and mythtv
[05:45] <notgod> sadistico: what errors?
[05:45] <IcemanV9> jcsteele: just wait for a while, then try it again.
[05:45] <ConstyXIV> sadistico: what sort of error?
[05:45] <jcsteele> IcemanV9: ok, thanks!
[05:45] <sadistico> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:45] <sadistico> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:45] <ConstyXIV> sadistico: sudo apt-get ...
[05:45] <LjL> ConstyXIV: you don't happen to have kubuntu-artwork-usplash still installed?
[05:46] <sadistico> i tried that too
[05:46] <hayden> ConstyXIV, soundray - thanks
[05:46] <notgod> sadistico: use sudo
[05:46] <ConstyXIV> LjL; no
[05:46] <iratik_x21> Is there a way to repair a 6.06 cd using  a 6.06 install cd
[05:46] <josh_> sadistico: that means either you already have something using the package manager or you didn't "sudo" the command
[05:46] <iratik_x21> i pretty much need the kernel and all packages reinstalled
[05:46] <sadistico> i tried typing sudo in front
[05:46] <znejk> how do i apply a patch?
[05:46] <notgod> sadistico: instead of "apt-get <options>" run "sudo apt-get <options>"
[05:46] <Nutubuntu> sadistico - are you running Synaptic or aptitude at the same time, or not using *sudo* apt-get ?
[05:46] <Pawlos> UBUNTU I PHRAKIN LOVE YA
[05:46] <notgod> sadistico: I think bluefish is also in the add/remove programs list.
[05:46] <yellowdart> sadistico, do you have a package manager open?
[05:46] <ConstyXIV> !caps | Pawlos
[05:46] <sadistico> yeah
[05:46] <ubotu> Pawlos: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:47] <iratik_x21> Is there a way to repair a 6.06 cd using  a 6.06 install cd ?
[05:47] <Pawlos> !spank | ConstyXIV
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spank - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <josh_> only one thing can access the package manager at once
[05:47] <LjL> ConstyXIV: dunno really, perhaps try sudo apt-get --reinstall install usplash-theme-ubuntu
[05:47] <Pawlos> mwahaha
[05:47] <LjL> !botabuse
[05:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:47] <sadistico> ohhh ok
[05:47] <josh_> you cant sudo apt-get something if a gui app is already usjing it
[05:47] <sadistico> ill try again
[05:47] <Nutubuntu> sadistico - when you have a package manager open, it locks the file
[05:47] <sadistico> sorry im a nub
[05:47] <yellowdart> sadistico, you have to close the package managers before running apt-get.. or just do it in the package managers and click "apply"
[05:47] <LjL> that's a different error though, but anyway
[05:47] <josh_> no, just new
[05:47] <sadistico> just got ubuntu
[05:47] <Nutubuntu> sadistico - a side note; I just complied the latest "unstable" bluefish and REALLY like it
[05:47] <LjL> surely sudo *is* needed, no way it'll work without
[05:47] <sasha> hi, all
[05:48] <sadistico> ok i got it thanks
[05:48] <sadistico> =)
[05:48] <Pawlos> ive been using ubuntu for 4 days ITS amazing , im a bsd fan acctually :\
[05:48] <sadistico> i know
[05:48] <iratik_x21> i pretty much need the kernel and all packages reinstalled, is there anyway to do this on ubuntu 6.06 server - using a 6.06 server install cd ?
[05:48] <sadistico> im liking it
[05:48] <notgod> Pawlos: me too.  haha
[05:48] <YoshiG3> LjL: I found a bug- Frostwire will not load the interface when using beryl.
[05:48] <sadistico> i was skeptical at first
[05:48] <Pawlos> notgod, BSD still rocks
[05:48] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: Alternate has an option called recue mode
[05:48] <YoshiG3> LjL: Might be due to the skin, though
[05:48] <rendo> Having a slight problem.  Apparently using the public_html isn't working properly and I don't know why.  Instead of index.html loading for people, for me on my network the page loads fine, it loads up the folder view with phpmyadmin and my forums folder listed in there.
[05:48] <LinTux> anybody know when the next release of Ubuntu is going to be?
[05:48] <alecjw> hi. what good programs are there for transcoding music?
[05:48] <Pawlos> but this lappy really loves ubuntu
[05:48] <ryon> Im confused about the "generic" kernel. I just want something that is 686 and smp but the generic package does not seem to sort that out. Any Ideas?
[05:48] <sadistico> hard to ween myself off windows
[05:48] <ConstyXIV> Im curious, is there a reason we use "kubuntu, xubuntu, etc." instead of "Ubuntu KDE, Ubuntu Light, etc.?
[05:48] <iratik_x21> GaiaX11:  Alternate?
[05:48] <LjL> YoshiG3: surely not the only bug in beryl... ;)
[05:48] <ConstyXIV> alecjw: april
[05:48] <notgod> Pawlos: indeed.  but I am tired of configuring stuff, honestly.
[05:48] <GaiaX11> LinTux: April 16
[05:48] <sadistico> lol
[05:49] <ConstyXIV> alecjw: then october, then april, etc.
[05:49] <YoshiG3> LjL: Lol, still better than Aero :D
[05:49] <LjL> ConstyXIV: that's been considered and perhaps is still being considered
[05:49] <kitche> iratik_x21: it'll be hard sicne you might have other things trojaned also
[05:49] <sadistico> i dunno configuring is kinnda fun
[05:49] <XiCillin> lintux april 19 or something
[05:49] <LinTux> GaiaX11: cheers
[05:49] <Pawlos> notgod, does ubuntu have something like portaudit ?
[05:49] <||cw> ryon: generic does SMP for me
[05:49] <sadistico> gives me something to do beween classes
[05:49] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: yes
[05:49] <sadistico> lol
[05:49] <notgod> Pawlos: not that I am aware of.
[05:49] <amonkey> if i want the newest version of amarok, can i use the feisty package on edgy? how can i look through the feisty repo to get the deb?
[05:49] <Pawlos> damn thats a feature im gonna miss
[05:49] <iratik_x21> kitche, GaiaX11: i've taken care of most of the restrictions already - the machine isn't online
[05:49] <Pawlos> :(
[05:49] <LjL> !generic | ryon
[05:49] <notgod> Pawlos: indeed.
[05:49] <ubotu> ryon: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[05:49] <Pawlos> my generic does SMP
[05:49] <LinTux> It has taken me 3 months, but I have finally totally gone from XP to Ubuntu
[05:49] <notgod> Pawlos: but I am no ubuntu expert, so ask someone who knows.  :)
[05:49] <XiCillin> amonkey, i haven't had luck with repo's that are different from my version
[05:49] <iratik_x21> And if i boot off the cd and do a rescue install onto the main filesystem - then i can still salvage the existing system
[05:49] <ConstyXIV> amonkey: i think kubuntu.org has up to date repos
[05:49] <Pawlos> Linux TribalAttack 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:50] <alecjw> ConstyXIV, are there any in the repositoiries?
[05:50] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: nothing
[05:50] <Pawlos> notgod, hehe its ok im used to manually check for security issues
[05:50] <ConstyXIV> amonkey: built for kubuntu
[05:50] <XiCillin> LinTux, thats cool
[05:50] <indigoparrot> hey, can anyone help me fix a samba problem?
[05:50] <Pawlos> it comes with the job/ccareer
[05:50] <davin> how do I change the system language in Dapper?
[05:50] <sadistico> what is the difference between the normal and unstable version of bluefish?
[05:50] <||cw> where can I ask about the 2.4 kernel in universe, mkinitrd won't run so I have no initrd image
[05:50] <indigoparrot> I can't seem to get my ubuntu box to play nice with my windows pcs
[05:50] <ConstyXIV> alecjw: any what?
[05:50] <XiCillin> LinTux, tryed vmware?
[05:50] <Pawlos> and i love this channel
[05:50] <LinTux> MKe not have to pay Microsoft anymore, brill
[05:51] <amonkey> ConstyXIV, will the built for kubuntu package work on gnome?
[05:51] <Nutubuntu> sadistico - the "unstable" has features not yet built into the "stable" release. I wanted block-folding, and that's only in unstable (so far). It works very nicely : )
[05:51] <ConstyXIV> indigoparrot: what are your issues
[05:51] <LinTux> no whats it like
[05:51] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Do you have the rt8180.inf file?
[05:51] <ConstyXIV> amonkey: yes
[05:51] <alecjw> ConstyXIV, programs to transcode music
[05:51] <DisgruntledUser> yeah i have it and i used ndiswrapper
[05:51] <DisgruntledUser> ndiswrapper -i name
[05:51] <soundray> Pawlos: there is plenty of security auditing software in ubuntu
[05:51] <DisgruntledUser> ndiswrapper -m
[05:51] <notgod> ok, so anyone here know much about pptp/pppd/dns entries magically reverting themselves after a short while on the VPN (though I can still access all the VPN servers) ?
[05:51] <DisgruntledUser> modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:51] <Zaggynl> Does anyone know how I can improve boottime? I heard something about profile, but I have clue what it is
[05:51] <indigoparrot> ConstyXIV: i believe i have installed samba and winbind and all the associated gubbins properly, but I'm not too sure how to configure it.  I've tried various online tutorials but I can't access my windows files from my ubuntu box
[05:51] <ConstyXIV> alecjw: if youre doing it for a mp3 player, banshee does it automagically
[05:51] <sean_micken> hey what package has the C dev man pages?
[05:52] <Pawlos> soundray, hmmm can you point out some guides id like to see how this baby can hadel stuff
[05:52] <XiCillin> Pawlos, yea, you can pretty much get any security/auditing software for linux on ubuntu
[05:52] <Mohammed> Hello
[05:52] <soundray> !manpages-dev | sean_micken
[05:52] <ubotu> sean_micken: manpages-dev: Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34-1 (edgy), package size 1183 kB, installed size 2908 kB
[05:52] <Pawlos> XiCillin,  is there anything like portaudit on bsd
[05:52] <davin> how can I change the language of ubuntu?
[05:52] <alecjw> ConstyXIV, i'm not - i'm looking for a transcoderl ike gtranscode, but for audio instead of video
[05:52] <Zambezi> Anyone know how to upload files with lftp?
[05:52] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Do you have the rt8180.inf file?
[05:52] <soundray> Pawlos: try 'apt-cache search security audit'
[05:52] <XiCillin> like .deb audit or something? not that i know of but, now that you mention it. i would like something like that
[05:52] <Mohammed> I got a grub 'error 24' can somebody helps me to know what is that, as i can't boot my system
[05:52] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: yes and i used ndiswrapper on it
[05:53] <LjL> Zaggynl: just put the word "profile" into your kernel command line (just *temporarily* in GRUB, do *not* let it stay there!), the system will boot much slower than usual. reboot again (this time without "profile"), and if you're lucky it'll boot a bit faster
[05:53] <sean_micken> soundray: thanks.
[05:53] <bego> hola
[05:53] <LjL> !es
[05:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:53] <notgod> ok, so I just got a kernel update message, but I cannot select some of the checkboxes -- anyone seen this before?
[05:53] <kazukisan> I have a HP Pavilion dv6000 with a nvidia video card in it, I have installed ubuntu, live cd worked first time while i installed now it does the same thing that the installed version does, which is when it try's to go into X it freeze's and does this black to tan loop but its a bunch of lines. sometimes also in the recovery mode which works it freeze's out of random. ive tried changing drivers and rez and booted with noacpi, any su
[05:53] <kazukisan> g.?
[05:53] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: do: ndiswrapper -l
[05:53] <ConstyXIV> alecjw: soundconverter
[05:53] <LjL> Zaggynl: to edit the command line in GRUB, hit "e" at the menu, then "e" again, then edit it, then "b" to boot
[05:53] <Pawlos> ive wrote similar ones to those soundray  hehe
[05:53] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Which is the output?
[05:53] <bego> sois tontos
[05:53] <Pawlos> W00t gcc is working
[05:53] <amonkey> ConstyXIV, thanks, it's installing right now
[05:53] <davin> how do I change the ubuntu language?
[05:53] <Zaggynl> LjL, cool, where do I put the word profile?
[05:53] <DisgruntledUser> device (10EC:8185) present (alternate driver: r818x)
[05:53] <Pawlos> thanks LjL
[05:54] <LjL> Zaggynl: at the end of the command line, after splash, quiet and the rest
[05:54] <alecjw> thnaks, ConstyXIV
[05:54] <LjL> !bootoptions > Zaggynl    (Zaggynl, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:54] <ConstyXIV> amonkey, alecjw: no problem
[05:54] <XiCillin> kazukisan check your xorg.conf file. check to make sure you have the screen horizontal and vertical syncs
[05:54] <LjL> Zaggynl: this has the procedure for adding options in grub
[05:54] <Zaggynl> cheers
[05:54] <kazukisan> XiCillin, Checked that already.
[05:54] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: driver installed device (10EC:8185) present (alternate driver: r818x)
[05:54] <davin> someone?
[05:54] <XiCillin> kazukisan sure you have the write driver?
[05:55] <XiCillin> right*
[05:55] <kazukisan> XiCillin, i tried vesa and i tried nv
[05:55] <soundray> davin: System-Administration-Language Support
[05:55] <kazukisan> XiCillin, i also just tried install debian instaid and it locked up on install software part
[05:55] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Does your card activate in boot time?
[05:55] <indigoparrot> ConstyXIV: i believe i have installed samba and winbind and all the associated gubbins properly, but I'm not too sure how to configure it.  I've tried various online tutorials but I can't access my windows files from my ubuntu pc.
[05:55] <davin> soundray: English is checked, along with some other languages, but I cant 'change' it
[05:55] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: yep
[05:56] <soundray> davin: log out and change your session options
[05:56] <livingdaylight> how do i see how much space i have left on my disc? can someone tell me?
[05:56] <kitche> livingdaylight: df -h
[05:56] <livingdaylight> thx
[05:56] <Nutubuntu> I'm using OO.o 2.02 on Dapper, but sometime back I installed 1.9.100. I can't get OO.O writer to spell-check; I think it's because it's not finding the dictionary. Where is it supposed to look for the dictionary?
[05:57] <yellowdart> kazukisan, try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:57] <XiCillin> livingdaylight, in edgy, Application>Accessories>Disk usage analyzer
[05:57] <iratik_x21> whats the command for force reinstall or update all installed packages?
[05:57] <livingdaylight> XiCillin, oh, a gui . Thats nice too
[05:57] <XiCillin> sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[05:57] <iratik_x21> thanks
[05:58] <XiCillin> yup :-
[05:58] <XiCillin> )
[05:58] <notgod> I will give $20 to anyone who can help me with this PPTP/PPPD/DNS issue right now.  :)  And I'll do my best to document it.
[05:58] <kazukisan> yellowdart, it also just freezing up randomly sometimes when ever im in the linux install or kernel
[05:58] <davin> soundray thanks
[05:59] <yellowdart> kazukisan, did you run a cd check? (assuming you're doing the install from the cd)
[05:59] <davin> notgod: this is free software, and we're helping for free;)
[05:59] <davin> brb
[05:59] <kazukisan> yellowdart, well the first time through everything went fine, it installed and when i tried to boot it started doing that, i tried running the live cd and it did the same thing
[05:59] <rendo> Why isn't public_html being called properly?  It's displaying the folder directories opposed to the webpage?
[06:00] <kazukisan> yellowdart, i just tried install debian and it froze at the installing software party
[06:00] <kazukisan> part *
[06:00] <kitche> rendo: you sure do you have a index.html file or index.htm?
[06:00] <LjL> YoshiG3: have you fixed the problem described in #ubuntu-read-topic? it would seem that you were among the ones affected
[06:00] <iratik_x21> alright ...I need to reinstall the command dir,login,encrypt,ifconfig, find,ls, lsof, md5sum, netstat, pg,ps,pstree,slocate, syslogd, sz, tks, tksb top and tkp... will apt-get install dist-upgrade do that?
[06:00] <hai> 
[06:01] <livingdaylight> how do i uninstall kde desktop?
[06:01] <YoshiG3> LjL: Problem? Which problem?
[06:01] <LjL> !cn
[06:01] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:01] <sadistico> lol
[06:01] <livingdaylight> sudo apt-get remove kde-desktop?
[06:01] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: ifconfig wlan0 192.168.x.x netmask 255.255.255.0
[06:01] <yellowdart> kazukisan, hmmm.. sorry i thought it was an nvidia problem..
[06:01] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Have you tried this command?
[06:02] <YoshiG3> LjL: my router problem? Howd you know I had a router problem lol
[06:02] <iratik_x21> so will it work ?
[06:02] <hai> 
[06:02] <LjL> YoshiG3: i saw you in the banlist
[06:02] <LjL> !english | hai
[06:02] <ubotu> hai: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:02] <LjL> !cn | hai
[06:02] <ubotu> hai: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:02] <iratik_x21> apt-get install dist-upgrade upgrades/installs everything - including   ls, top etc....
[06:02] <aimee> anyone out there know where's the hell modprobe.conf in ubuntu?
[06:02] <iratik_x21> is that true?
[06:02] <LinuxHelp> !nvidia
[06:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <DisgruntledUser> GaiaX11: yeah it gives me about 30 blank lines then the console command line again....
[06:03] <notgod> davin: as much as I love and agree with the free software philosophy, I am willing to pay for help because I have been trying to get this to work for days, and I haven't gotten an answer in the hour I have been in here this morning.  :)
[06:03] <kitche> iratik_x21: only if there is a new version for the base system
[06:03] <iratik_x21> well i have dapper - so
[06:03] <davin> notgod: Tell me about your problem
[06:03] <iratik_x21> but i'm currently on a recovery login
[06:03] <aimee> hey, anyone know how to config saa7134 based tv card in ubuntu?
[06:03] <hejsa> I'm running ubuntu on my macbook and i got the touchpad working with two finger tapping for right click, but i would like it to work like in osx. one finger on touchpad and then a click on the button. Anyone who knows anything about this ?
[06:03] <rendo> kitche I have index.html
[06:04] <chris_> Hello all - I've just installed ubuntu and am having a problem - am I in the right place for help?
[06:04] <GaiaX11> DisgruntledUser: Have you tried the ubuntu forums?
[06:04] <kitche> rendo: try index.htm just to see if it will work
[06:04] <notgod> davin:  I have the VPN working, but DNS gets reverted to the pre-VPN-connected settings after a few minutes of being connected.  I am on a DHCP wireless connection (to tmobile) and using peerdns options.
[06:04] <XiCillin> chris_ yes
[06:04] <Nutubuntu> chris_ probably - what problem?
[06:04] <livingdaylight> seriously, can someone tell me? I'm sure it's simple...how do i remove kde desktop?
[06:04] <davin> notgod: whoo, I have no idea. maybe try static IP?
[06:04] <chris_> great - the network settings app just doesn't see my wired connection at all
[06:04] <yellowdart> DisgruntledUser, i saw you mention that you are using ndiswrapper.. does it recognize your card as wlan0 or eth1 (i know mine kept defaulting to eth1)
[06:04] <iratik_x21> looks like apt-get dist-upgrade  only reinstalls the kernel
[06:05] <livingdaylight> sudo apt-get remove kde-desktop doesn' t do it
[06:05] <iratik_x21> are ps, top etc.. parts of the kernel
[06:05] <davin> chris_: ifconfig
[06:05] <kitche> livingdaylight: sudo apt-get --purge remove kde
[06:05] <notgod> davin: I would love to force every wireless network I connect to to allow me a static IP, but that's impractical.  :)
[06:05] <livingdaylight> kitche, thx again
[06:05] <PSPro> hehe wat een publiek voor ubuntu
[06:05] <chris_> davin_excuse me? ifconfig? I apologize - I'm new at this...
[06:05] <davin> notgod: Sorry, Ive never used VPN, so I cant help you
[06:05] <davin> chris_: ifconfig is like ipconfig in windows
[06:06] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: What happened with you? Have you lost your data
[06:06] <chris_> I mean *really* new
[06:06] <chris_> :)
[06:06] <iratik_x21> GaiaX11: rootkit attack
[06:06] <chris_> where can I find ifconfig
[06:06] <chris_> ?
[06:06] <notgod> davin: and this is why I am willing to pay for some help.  It's a pretty esoteric problem.  :)
[06:06] <davin> chris_: Applications > Accesories > Terminal
[06:06] <iratik_x21> GaiaX11: i need to reinstall all the affected 'backdoored' binaries
[06:06] <XiCillin> chris_ open a terminal adn type it
[06:06] <davin> chris_: then type ifconfig and paste it on pastecode.com and link me
[06:06] <chris_> oh, ok
[06:06] <Nutubuntu> chris_ open a terminal window and type "ifconfig" at the prompt
[06:06] <iratik_x21> top, ls, ps, pstree etc.. are all affected
[06:06] <livingdaylight> kitche, couldn't find package kde-desktop?
[06:06] <davin> notgod: alright, but you shouldnt ;)
[06:07] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: reinstall the system then
[06:07] <iratik_x21> GaiaX11: is there something stronger that apt-get dist-upgrade .. or is that enough to install the binaries?
[06:07] <notgod> davin: If I had an option, I would take it.  ;)
[06:07] <chris_> davin_sorry, what is pastecode.com?
[06:07] <iratik_x21> s/ install the binaries/reinstall the binaries
[06:07] <thegve> PSPro: Bij ubuntu-nl zijn ze beter in Nederland (At ubuntu-nl they are better in dutch)
[06:07] <chris_> incidentally, I'm logged in thru another OS, since internet doesn't work on ubuntu...
[06:07] <davin> chris_: a site where you can paste text and then give people the link to it, like uploading text
[06:07] <AmaroqWolf> how do I replace an accidental deletion of /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libfile.so ?
[06:07] <davin> chris_: you have to use it as you cant paste here on IRC
[06:07] <notgod> davin: and I will try my best to document it once I do get it solved.
[06:07] <kitche> livingdaylight: there is no kde-desktop package
[06:08] <iratik_x21> i'
[06:08] <iratik_x21> ll just try it
[06:08] <livingdaylight> kitche, that's what the terminal says
[06:08] <iratik_x21> if it works it works.. if it doesn't i'm screwed
[06:08] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: Do you have the alternate cd?
[06:08] <chris_> davin_ok,, so how do I link to you onpastecode.com?
[06:08] <iratik_x21> GaiaX11: i have an install cd i'm booted and running off of
[06:08] <yellowdart> livingdaylight, try kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <chris_> on pastecode
[06:08] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: Do you have the alternate cd?
[06:08] <davin> just give me the URL at the top after youve hit the button
[06:08] <Nutubuntu> chris_ -  copy the pastecode URL and tell us it here  : )
[06:08] <livingdaylight> kitche, but i know i installed kde-desktop some time ago and i now have all these kde apps cluttering my gnome applications menu
[06:08] <iratik_x21> i asked you what the alternate cd was earlier
[06:08] <livingdaylight> kitche, ok
[06:08] <iratik_x21> you never responded
[06:08] <chris_> davin_ok
[06:09] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: Sorry
[06:09] <chris_> davin_to do that i'll have to reboot into ubuntu, then reboot again to connect to internet - so may take some time
[06:09] <davin> chris_ np, pm me cos im going away for a few minutes
[06:09] <graabein> has anyone used envy scripts to install nvidia drivers??
[06:09] <kitche> livingdaylight: at least from packages.ubuntu.com says there is no such package
[06:10] <davin> graabein: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:10] <chris_> davin_thanx be right back
[06:10] <jesselang> Is the Edgy repo fixed yet?
[06:10] <N1kki> Hi, I was just wondering if anyone knew of any good tutorials on how to use ubuntu as a simple router, I basically have 3 PC's connected to each other and need machine 1 to talk to machine 3 via machine 2 (machine 2 is ubuntu)
[06:10] <graabein> davin: cause it broke my x server
[06:10] <yrlnry> I just did "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and got the message "The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-386 linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386".  What does that mean?
[06:11] <aimee> anyone know where's the module array in ubuntu linux please show me
[06:12] <idefix> !register
[06:12] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:12] <IcemanV9> yrlnry: it's a known problem for edgy & dapper
[06:12] <yrlnry> What does it mean?
[06:12] <eriklo> yrlnry: poor package management
[06:12] <aimee> it's like modprobe.conf
[06:12] <aimee> on other linux
[06:12] <graabein> davin: please take a look at the forums i have a thread there, just search for my username
[06:12] <IcemanV9> yrlnry: hopefully they fixed it soon
[06:13] <creepycrawly> back
[06:13] <midazolam> hello im on ubuntu, and am running the installer , now id like to set up software raid , how can i do that? i dont see any possibility in the installer
[06:13] <creepycrawly> hi again LjL
[06:13] <ConstyXIV> midazolam: alt or desktop
[06:13] <yrlnry> Okay but what does it mean?
[06:14] <midazolam> im running the dvd - desktop
[06:14] <midazolam> 64bit if that matters
[06:14] <ConstyXIV> midazolam: i think you want LVM
[06:14] <midazolam> a okay, where do i get it?
[06:14] <kitche> aimee: /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
[06:15] <ConstyXIV> midazolam: you will need the alt disc, unless LjL or someone else can tell me otherwise
[06:15] <aimee> thank kitche, you're so kind
[06:15] <N1kki> would I HAVE to mess with iptables
[06:15] <midazolam> well isnt everything i need on the 3.5 gb dvd?
[06:15] <creepycrawly> midazolam, no everything you need is on the 700mb cd
[06:15] <creepycrawly> :}
[06:15] <ConstyXIV> midazolam: the difference is that the desktop installer doesn't have advanced options like LVM or RAID
[06:16] <ConstyXIV> midazolam: you need the alt disc for that
[06:16] <Filip_BE> does somebody can run Beryl on XFCE ???
[06:16] <midazolam> well ill download this then. okay thanks
[06:16] <midazolam> in alternate cd is there also a desktop installer?
[06:16] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me with lftp? I'm trying to upload a folder, but put name didn't work and put * didn't work either.
[06:16] <TexJoachim> I believe I'm not the only one with held back packages, right?=
[06:16] <Nutubuntu> TexJoachim -  right.
[06:16] <IcemanV9> aimee: whereis command will help you next time :) (e.g. whereis modprobe.conf)
[06:17] <aimee> thanks
[06:17] <ConstyXIV> midazolam: no, desktop disc is a live cd with a gui installer.  alt disc is a text-based installer-only disc.  they both install the desktop
[06:17] <sol> gh gh
[06:17] <sol> klhj kcgjk
[06:17] <TexJoachim> Nutubuntu: and when will this be corrected?
[06:18] <midazolam> k, ill look into that, thanks! see you
[06:18] <Qew> Zambezi: use mirror -R [folder name] 
[06:18] <Nutubuntu> TexJoachim - I don't think anyone's sure. Seems to be a server-side package management issue. My guess? (Totally uninformed guess): sometime today
[06:18] <yrlnry> So regarding "The following packages have been kept back: ..", what action do I take?   Ignore it?
[06:18] <ConstyXIV> yrlnry: dist-upgrade
[06:18] <MarcoPau> I got problems with RAM, it's often full, even with not many apps opened. What should I check?
[06:19] <chris_> davin_ok i'm back - went to pastecode.com - just paste output of ifconfig, and use what name?
[06:19] <N1kki> full RAM is normal afaik
[06:19] <yrlnry> ConstyXIV: dist-upgrade is exactly how I got the message in the first place.
[06:19] <ConstyXIV> MarcoPau: how much ram, and kde or gnome?
[06:19] <yrlnry> constyXIV: I just did "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and got the message "The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-386 linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386".  What does that mean?
[06:19] <AmaroqWolf> yesterday, I was trying to delete a few files that someone told me to delete. The example command they gave me was "for i in 'locate file.so'; sudo do rm $i; done". I didn't realise that they had done file.so, so I copies and ran that command. Now it seems that the files on my system containing the string "file.so" are gone. Yesterday we reinstalled libaudiofile.so.0, but now I need another one called /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modul
[06:19] <crazy_penguin> are thos linux kernel image updates ok?
[06:19] <TexJoachim> I personally ignore it right now
[06:19] <crazy_penguin> yrlnry: same here
[06:19] <eriklo> MarcoPau: Perhaps your ram isn't used up -- maybe just allocated?
[06:19] <creepycrawly> damn
[06:20] <IcemanV9> !edgykernel
[06:20] <ubotu> There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[06:20] <creepycrawly> now its so comfortable this box
[06:20] <crazy_penguin> i see
[06:20] <crazy_penguin> so they are broken for the moment.
[06:20] <crazy_penguin> thx
[06:20] <ConstyXIV> so, we shouldnt update yet?
[06:20] <crazy_penguin> no
[06:20] <Qew> Zambezi: http://lftp.yar.ru/lftp-man.html
[06:20] <crazy_penguin> don't
[06:20] <crazy_penguin> you will end up with broken system
[06:20] <IcemanV9> ConstyXIV: correct
[06:20] <idefix> is there a "shift-delete" in linux?
[06:20] <gary> Is there any linux distributions that run of disk *AND* enable you to save some information.  I.e. installed modules, or a mounted file system
[06:20] <Zambezi> Qew, You're lovely! Thanks alot.
[06:20] <crazy_penguin> err with/with a
[06:21] <ConstyXIV> MarcoPau: im using 311 of 512 in gnome
[06:21] <TexJoachim> crazy_penguin: and what when one started part of the update?
[06:21] <ConstyXIV> idefix: yes
[06:21] <crazy_penguin> ctrl+c
[06:21] <idefix> how?
[06:21] <Qew> Zambezi: np
[06:21] <crazy_penguin> if your only at download
[06:21] <ConstyXIV> idefix: guess
[06:21] <chris_> hello all --- my new ubuntu installation isn't getting internet connection - i copied output of ifconfig - can anyone help?
[06:21] <DisgruntledUser> *sigh i really dont want to go back to SuSE
[06:21] <GaiaX11> iratik_x21: http://osmirrors.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/
[06:21] <idefix> shift-backspace doesn't work
[06:21] <crazy_penguin> chris_: yes
[06:21] <DisgruntledUser> theres got to be some way to get this to work
[06:21] <ConstyXIV> idefix: shift-delete
[06:21] <eriklo> MarcoPau: Try reading some over at kerneltrap.org
[06:21] <idefix> doesn't work on my linux
[06:22] <ConstyXIV> idefix: one moment.  gnome?
[06:22] <chris_> crazypenguin_great - how should i get the output of ifconfig to you?
[06:22] <crazy_penguin> chris_: where can i see it?
[06:22] <eletido> how do i find out what version of the kernal i am using?
[06:22] <crazy_penguin> chris_: put it on the pastebin
[06:22] <idefix> nautilus
[06:22] <Nutubuntu> chris_ -  what is the URL of the output of ifconfig? where did you pastebin it? (if you did; if not see the topic of the chan for the pastebin URL)
[06:22] <crazy_penguin> eletido: uname -a
[06:22] <chris_> penguin_sorry - i don't know pastebin - can you explain?
[06:22] <eletido> crazy_penguin: thanks.
[06:22] <TexJoachim> eletido: uname -a
[06:22] <nicolah> in thunar, if you click on a file/folder then select properties. In the permissions tab there's an option called "other files" which others file is it referred to ?
[06:23] <crazy_penguin> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:23] <idefix> ConsyXIV
[06:23] <ConstyXIV> idefix: go to edit->prefs in nautilus, behavior, delete command that bypasses...
[06:23] <aimee> hey kitche, when I typed less /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf I got the message : No such file or directory
[06:23] <IcemanV9> DisgruntledUser: try to search ubuntuforums.org for rtl8180; there are plenty of posts on it.
[06:23] <crazy_penguin> !tell chris_ about pastebin
[06:23] <chris_> ok - i'll do that real quick
[06:23] <ConstyXIV> idefix: also, is this edgy? just so im sure
[06:23] <hayden> !pastebin | chris_
[06:23] <ubotu> chris_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <idefix> th
[06:24] <eletido> hmm, why is auto-update keeping back linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[06:24] <chris_> ok - pasted! - the url that shows up at top is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4733/
[06:24] <idefix> thx
[06:24] <ConstyXIV> idefix: works now?
[06:24] <crazy_penguin> eletido: don't update those for the moment they are broken
[06:24] <ConstyXIV> eletido: they're broken
[06:24] <Reliant> I just did "apt-get install proftpd", and I get connection refused when trying to open an ftp connection
[06:25] <kitche> aimee: forgot you can use /etc/modprobe.d/aliases for modprobe.conf instead
[06:25] <idefix> ConstyXIV yes it does
[06:25] <crazy_penguin> chris_: one sec
[06:25] <chris_> penguin_thanks
[06:25] <eletido> crazy_penguin: ConstyXIV: ah, gotcha. thanks for the warning.
[06:25] <core123> How to activate my microphone ?
[06:25] <lexko> How do I go about upgrading my kernel to support SMP? when I search for 686-smp it says that it is obsolete and I should use image-generic, but that's what I currently have installed
[06:26] <crazy_penguin> chris_: you don't have any interface address defined
[06:26] <aimee> kitche, please make it clear, I'm sorry, but I'm linux newbie
[06:26] <ConstyXIV> core123: r-click speaker in the tray, open volume...
[06:26] <crazy_penguin> chris_: do you use dhcp?
[06:26] <knubbe> Hello, I have attached my cellphone to my USB-port. How do i check which /dev/.. it is?
[06:26] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: i'm sorry - i'm not i know what that means (I'm a true newbie).
[06:26] <_Freedom0_> hello
[06:26] <crazy_penguin> chris_: err is your isp using dhcp?
[06:26] <Nutubuntu> chris_ -  looks like you don't have an address configured
[06:26] <rbil> core123: in term, run ... alsamixer and try from there
[06:26] <ConstyXIV> core123: then turn up your mic
[06:26] <aimee> kitche, I have a saa7134 based tv card
[06:26] <aimee> then how do I config
[06:26] <chris_> ok - is there a standard way to go about configuring address?
[06:27] <notgod> ok, so I am pretty sure I know what the problem is -- dhcpd is overwriting my resolv.conf
[06:27] <crazy_penguin> chris_: do you have an internet address or the system should set it up automatically?
[06:27] <ConstyXIV> chris_: over dhcp or by hand?
[06:27] <MarcoPau> ConstyXIV: kde.. 512 MB
[06:27] <chris_> set up automatically
[06:27] <aimee> in fedora linux I often put this line in file /etc/modprobe.conf : alias char-major-81 saa7134
[06:27] <aimee> options saa7134 card=3
[06:27] <kitche> aimee: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases is the same as /etc/modprobe.conf pretty much
[06:27] <crazy_penguin> then you have probably dhcp
[06:27] <roo_> knubbe, is there anything in dmesg?
[06:27] <ConstyXIV> MarcoPau: kde occupies your ram usually
[06:27] <chris_> previouysly used dhcp
[06:27] <ConstyXIV> chris_: dhclient3 (interface)
[06:27] <crazy_penguin> chris_: go into a virual console
[06:27] <MarcoPau> eriklo: what do you mean? free says what's used and what's not
[06:28] <crazy_penguin> chris_: what are you using gnome or kde?
[06:28] <chris_> gnome
[06:28] <crazy_penguin> chris_: then go and set up a terminal
[06:28] <ConstyXIV> MarcoPau: kde likes to "cushion" your ram, and then de-occupies it for apps
[06:28] <crazy_penguin> is in the Applications menu
[06:28] <knubbe> roo_: yes, i find the device with dmesg, but it doesnt tell me which port it is.
[06:28] <crazy_penguin> i wiil guide you from there chris_
[06:28] <Linkmasta23> hi there
[06:28] <_Freedom0_> i want to download ubuntu 6.06 via bitorrent could someone give me the url please?for in intel pentieum
[06:28] <chris_> carazy_penguin_: since i can't connect w/ ubuntu, i'm currently using anouther os
[06:29] <crazy_penguin> chris_: i see
[06:29] <crazy_penguin> chirs_: one sec
[06:29] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: thanks
[06:29] <crazy_penguin> err chris_: one sec
[06:29] <crazy_penguin> chris_: may i pm you. this scrolling text makes me dizzy
[06:30] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[06:30] <kitche> _Freedom0_: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[06:30] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: it's on download page
[06:30] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: sure - but sorry, not very familiar with anything - pm?
[06:30] <Nutubuntu> chris_ - you'll need to edit this file: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:30] <crazy_penguin> chris_: pm = private message or query (private channel)
[06:31] <_Freedom0_> icemanV9 i didnt find bitorrent downloads for 6.06 !
[06:31] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: oh ok - sure thing - anything i should do?
[06:31] <steven_Office> can someone poit me to a link on how to get your e-mail after the basic mail server is up and running?
[06:32] <shmeelAway> hi, does anyone know where i can find the files that are taking up a lot of space? i supposedly have used up 17 GB of space, but i have no clue how
[06:32] <crazy_penguin> chris_: what irc client do you use?
[06:32] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: it won't let me send private messages! b/c i'm not registered...
[06:33] <crazy_penguin> yes
[06:33] <crazy_penguin> chirs_: then type in the following command
[06:33] <Nutubuntu> chris_ - it's pretty simple fix: you'll need to edit this file: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:33] <DShepherd> there's seems to be a downgrade available for linux-headers-386. Should i get it?
[06:33] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: http://osmirrors.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/dapper/ shows the list of bittorrent .. go to http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#lts
[06:33] <crazy_penguin> Nutubuntu: but his doesn't know how
[06:33] <crazy_penguin> err his/he
[06:34] <Nutubuntu> chris_ -  so at terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:34] <chris_> Nutubuntu_: thanks - but yeah, I'm pretty new to all this - need some "hand-holding" ;p
[06:34] <crazy_penguin> chirs_: tyepe in /msg nickserv register password where password is a password you want to give
[06:34] <_Freedom0_> iceManV9 i think this is the right url ftp://ubuntu.univ-nantes.fr/ubuntu-cd/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent ?
[06:34] <xerophyte_>  does anybody know any good program to organize the ebook i have lot i want a program to organize and search for it?
[06:34] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: yep
[06:35] <Nutubuntu> chris_ - that will require your password, then it will start the gedit editor (you have to have the rights to save the file after you've edited it, is why the password is needed)
[06:35] <_Freedom0_> sorry this ftp://ubuntu.univ-nantes.fr/ubuntu-cd/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[06:35] <crazy_penguin> chirs_: and in the future if you are registered you can identify yourself by typing /msg nickserv identify password
[06:35] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: and yep :)
[06:35] <andreas_> Hello=) I got a problem, have installed beryl, have a ATi Raedon 9600, so used the AIGLX guide. But when i run " beryl -manager" i get "Support for non power of two textures missing" ... What can i do?
[06:35] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: ok
[06:35] <_Freedom0_> whats the difference between alternative  and others like desktop or server?
[06:36] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: alternative is console install and desktop is livecd/install
[06:36] <irishboxer> anyone help a newbie with dvd probs running "dapper" totem. getting "No uri handler implemented for "dvd"" . Installed libdvdcss2 and  libdvdread3 but still no playback.
[06:36] <roler> What was the name of that network sniffer/scanner again?
[06:36] <bfdhud_> wireshark?
[06:36] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: AND server is just server (LAMP included)
[06:36] <roler> bfdhud_, ; I thought there was another one...
[06:37] <infu> hello
[06:37] <Agrajag> snort?
[06:37] <_Freedom0_> so for newbies wich is the suitable one?
[06:37] <andreas_> Can anyone help me?
[06:37] <bfdhud_> roler, thats the only one I know
[06:37] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: desktop would be good
[06:37] <roler> let me see if snort is it
[06:37] <Nutubuntu> chris_ - in /etc/network/interfaces make sure that there is a line reading: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:37] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: ok i did the step to register
[06:37] <_Freedom0_> ok thanks so uch IcemanV9
[06:37] <crazy_penguin> ok chris_:
[06:37] <crazy_penguin> ok chris_
[06:38] <IcemanV9> _Freedom0_: sure. :)
[06:38] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: hmmm but still not getting thru??? sorry...
[06:38] <rendo> kitche, It was the stupid default webpage checking in var/www instead of public_html, thanks for the suggestion though.
[06:38] <crazy_penguin> chris_: type in /query crazy_penguin
[06:39] <andreas_> Hello=) I got a problem, have installed beryl, have a ATi Raedon 9600, so used the AIGLX guide. But when i run " beryl -manager" i get "Support for non power of two textures missing" ... What can i do?
[06:39] <shmeelAway> i have 17 GB used space, yet my largest thing is only an iso that's 500 MB, the next biggest is 25 MB. i only installed ubuntu yesterday so i havn't installed much. does any1 have any clue why?
[06:40] <irishboxer> anyone know anything about dvd playback in totem?
[06:40] <ConstyXIV> would it be a bad thing to have /dev/kqemu set as 777 so i can run it as non-root?
[06:40] <ConstyXIV> !dvd  | irishboxer
[06:40] <ubotu> irishboxer: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:41] <floating> shmeelAway: type du -ch in your home dir and investigate
[06:41] <floating> it lists sizes of dirs
[06:41] <steven_Office> shmeelAway, I had that problem once and I found that it was a format problem witch was fixed by a re-install
[06:41] <shmeelAway> alright, will try
[06:41] <shmeelAway> so type sudo du -ch
[06:41] <shmeelAway> ?
[06:41] <floating> no need sudo
[06:42] <Nutubuntu> shmeelAway -  just du -ch
[06:42] <irishboxer> ubotu: running "dapper" totem. getting "No uri handler implemented for "dvd"" . Installed libdvdcss2 and  libdvdread3 but still no playback.
[06:42] <whatspy> set system date in console mode... how ?
[06:42] <shmeelAway> says 634 M total
[06:42] <shmeelAway> -.-
[06:43] <Tomcat_> whatspy: date -s
[06:43] <IcemanV9> whatspy: date
[06:43] <irishboxer> or ConstyXIV
[06:43] <dede_> shmeelAway: filelight is a kde frontend for `du`
[06:44] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: I'm sorry - thanks for your help - I can't seem to get the registration working right - I don't want to waste your time.
[06:44] <crazy_penguin> chris_: chris_: perhaps it would be better to explain to you what to do
[06:44] <Nutubuntu> chris_ - in /etc/network/interfaces make sure that there is a line reading: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:44] <Linkmasta23> YAY i just burned my installation disk
[06:44] <nevin_> hello
[06:44] <chris_> Thanks Nutubuntu
[06:44] <crazy_penguin> chris_: no problem. come into ubuntu-ro channel
[06:44] <shmeelAway> idk, it just says that there's 634M total, yet 17 GB used
[06:44] <chris_> I will check
[06:44] <Nutubuntu> chris_ - that's a zero, by the way, at the end of "eth0"
[06:44] <crazy_penguin> chris_: and i will explain to you what to do
[06:44] <chris_> crazy_penguin_: ok
[06:44] <shmeelAway> really don't want to uninstall and do it again since i just did it yesterday -.-
[06:45] <steven_Office> shmeelAway, bad install you not using the hole drive
[06:45] <iratik_x21> I need to pay for some ubuntu consulting services / security auditing - where do I go for paid consulting services ?
[06:45] <floating> the df -h says that 17gb ?
[06:45] <shmeelAway> no, GParted says that
[06:46] <shmeelAway> is there any way to back up everything i have in ubuntu, reinstall and get my current settings right away?
[06:46] <MajorPayne> when I do a apt-get upgrade it tells me this: The following packages have been kept back:  linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:46] <XiCillin> i'm interesting in auditing my firewall, i wanted to test my filters by using ICMP TTL method. nmap can't set TTL's (it should) and hping2 can only scan one port at a time.
[06:46] <nevin_> can anyone help me with wine and CS:S
[06:46] <XiCillin> anybody know of a port scanner that allows to set a TTL like that?
[06:46] <floating> reinstall qparted first maybe ;o
[06:46] <eriklo> iratik_x21: www.securityfocus.com is a page for security. Maybe you can get information somewhere there?
[06:46] <IcemanV9> !edgykernel | MajorPayne
[06:46] <ubotu> MajorPayne: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[06:47] <shmeelAway> reinstall GParted u think will work?
[06:47] <Benni> thanks ubotu, I was about to ask that question :-)
[06:47] <iratik_x21> thanks
[06:47] <IcemanV9> shmeelAway: use rsync command to back up data
[06:47] <floating> I don't. It strange problem, maybe ubuntu forum help
[06:47] <MajorPayne> IcemanCZ: lol, ok, thanks.  Should I just not even worry about this right now?
[06:47] <floating> try "df -h" command since it doesn't hurt to try
[06:47] <IcemanV9> MajorPayne: correct :)
[06:48] <MajorPayne> Ok, thanks.
[06:48] <shmeelAway> the df command says 17 GB used to
[06:48] <shmeelAway> damn
[06:48] <Bsims> If you have fuzzy fonts check this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976... cleared my issue up right quick
[06:49] <shmeelAway> iceman, where will it back up the data too?
[06:49] <shmeelAway> do i need an external harddrive?
[06:49] <jrsup1> does anyone know how to set up a link on the desktop that will run as root/su/sudo?
[06:49] <roler> ya, wireshark is it. thanks guys :)
[06:49] <Exabyte> hello, i'm new to ubuntu and i've been having trouble installing it on my laptop.. is anyone familiar with using a program like LVM2 to install linux onto a fake RAID configuration (i have windows on the computer which I need to keep so i want to make a partition, but linux can't recognize it)
[06:49] <AmaroqWolf> I had to reinstall libgnomevfs2-0
[06:50] <IcemanV9> shmeelAway: yes, it can be external harddrive or 2nd hd
[06:50] <dede_> jrsup1: use gksudo
[06:50] <jrsup1> !gksudo
[06:50] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[06:50] <floating> I wonder there are some tricks other than reinstall, but maybe someone who is familiar is not here right now. check ubuntu forums or google or ask later again shmeel
[06:50] <steven_Office> shmeelAway, CD other dive what ever you want!
[06:50] <shmeelAway> my external harddrive says access files only
[06:50] <shmeelAway> -.-
[06:50] <jrsup1> can that be put into the desktop link shortcut?
[06:51] <dede_> jrsup1 gksudo instead of sudo
[06:51] <steven_Office> shmeelAway, is it a fat32, ntfs or what?
[06:51] <shmeelAway> external is ntfs unfortunately
[06:51] <shmeelAway> maybe i should reformat it
[06:51] <andreas_> glxinfo | grep direct
[06:51] <andreas_> direct rendering: No
[06:52] <Bsims> shmeelAway: I'd use ext3 its what I use
[06:52] <jrsup1> got it!  You guys are awesome!!! Thanks!
[06:52] <steven_Office> ok go to the faq and a how to is in there
[06:52] <IcemanV9> shmeelAway: i have an external hd and i create a script to use rsync to back up my data as often as i can
[06:52] <steven_Office> if nothing is on the drive format it
[06:52] <Bsims> IcemanV9: check out my script it uses rdiff-backup http://home.insightbb.com/~bmsims1/Scripts/rdiffbackup.sh
[06:53] <andreas_> Do i need to install any more drivers than xorg-driver-fglrx??
[06:53] <shmeelAway> icemanv9, do you think you can guide me through the process? i have never done it before, and idk how to get the data back even if i do reinstall
[06:53] <Kinnison> Hi, anyone here particularly up on by-label or by-uuid mounting and 6.06 LTS?
[06:54] <Bsims> IcemanV9: ya really ought to try rdiff-backup vs rsync.. ya can restore as of dates not just from a mirror
[06:54] <creepycrawly> is it safe if i delete the apt-cache
[06:54] <Kinnison> The /dev/disk/by-{uuid,label} stuff only appears for /dev/hda and not for /dev/hdc
[06:54] <shmeelAway> but if i back up this stuff, and it says it takes up 17 GB, when i get the information again won't it take up the same amount of space?
[06:54] <steven_Office> shmeelAway, just go to the ubuntu faq and in there is a howto mount you ntfs and then do your back up and reload
[06:55] <steven_Office> somthing is XXXX on you shit
[06:55] <mistform> the gnome network manager won't read my eth1 connection
[06:55] <shmeelAway> won't the reload still make the thing 17 GB?
[06:55] <jrsup1> now can anyone help set up dualhead on a laptop that actually works :D  !
[06:55] <mistform> it only sees eth0
[06:55] <ubunturich>  /msg nickserv link <richubuntu> <boomer10051996>
[06:55] <PriceChild> !ohmy | steven_Office
[06:55] <ubotu> steven_Office: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:56] <steven_Office> ubotu, :) soory
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <inazad> I need some help to put a new kernel.. like 2.6.20
[06:56] <DK_II> I can't read DVD's in my DVD drive however if I insert a normal CD in it reads fine and then put a DVD in it reads it properly too. Is their anyway around this as its annoying having to keep putting in a normal CD to read a DVD?
[06:56] <iratik_x21> Alright I  ran the apt-get dist-upgrade successfully - but i'm still getting the LS_COLORS error from the hijacked ls
[06:56] <Bsims> iratik_x21: you got rooted?
[06:56] <stephans> ok
[06:56] <IcemanV9> shmeelAway: well, my simple rsync command (works only for me), rsync -Pavz /home/jwvehrs/ --delete --exclude=Desktop --exclude=.* --exclude=Examples /media/WD\ USB\ 2/dapper_backup, AND please read man rsync or more info at ubuntuforums.org
[06:57] <stephans> so what do I need to play OGM Video files/
[06:57] <stephans> ?
[06:57] <Bsims> IcemanV9: take a look at my script would ya and tell me what ya think
[06:57] <IcemanV9> Bsims: yeah, but i already felt comfort with rsync. :)
[06:57] <shmeelAway> alright
[06:57] <sketcher> just burned a ubuntu dvd image for pc, and popped it in my drive, booted up the ubuntu logo splashscreen fine but after that my DVI LCD screen went out, anyone have any clues? any help is much appriciated =x
[06:57] <shmeelAway> thanks
[06:57] <Bsims> IcemanV9: Heh I have one that uses rsync...
[06:58] <mrstocks>  5H/exit
[06:58] <creepycrawly> out of subject here, does anyone here have samsung ultraslim cellphone , and managed to get python running on it ?
[06:58] <IcemanV9> Bsims: pastebin it then and see if i could help ya
[06:58] <LinuxHelp> !xfce
[06:58] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[06:58] <Bsims> !pastebin
[06:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:59] <ubuntu_> af
[06:59] <ubuntu_> affffffffffffffffff
[07:00] <Bsims> IcemanV9: # I want to know how much space I have left
[07:00] <Bsims> echo " "
[07:00] <Bsims> echo " Displaying Drive Information:" di -h
[07:00] <Bsims> echo " "
[07:00] <Bsims> IcemanV9: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4736/
[07:00] <stephans> so what do I need to play OGM Video files?
[07:00] <Bsims> sorry about that extra garbage
[07:01] <mindstate> anyone know if the java-6-bin backport really works?
[07:01] <IcemanV9> Bsims: df -h
[07:01] <AmaroqWolf> Woohoo! Nobody helped me but I managed to fix my system anyway! xD I had to reinstall libgnomevfs2-0 and libxkbfile1
[07:01] <Bsims> IcemanV9: I like the output from di better
[07:01] <davin> AmaroqWolf good job
[07:02] <smoenux> :( .... I was changing my Icons in the Theme Manager, and I clicked on a Icon Pack which seems to be unsuported... It broke my X and now ubuntu wont log into that user's X. Can anyone help me?
[07:02] <AmaroqWolf> I accidentally deleted all files on my system that had the string "file.so" in them.
[07:02] <Nutubuntu>  /quit Gottago
[07:02] <ubunturich> does any ubuntu user here play quake3 on ubuntu?
[07:02] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, woops!
[07:02] <ubunturich> without using ioquake3
[07:03] <mindstate> anyone usiung the Java6 backport?
[07:03] <davin> ubunturich Id want to
[07:03] <smoenux> How do I reset the Icons and mouse cursor back to the defaults, when I don't have access to X??
[07:03] <ubunturich> i hear you davin
[07:03] <ubunturich> :)
[07:03] <crazy_penguin> mindstat: me
[07:03] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: working fine?
[07:03] <ubunturich> i even have the linux version of quake3 and can't install it
[07:03] <crazy_penguin> mindstat: if you mean the java6 packages
[07:03] <ubunturich> sigh
[07:03] <crazy_penguin> mindstat: yes
[07:03] <AmaroqWolf> yellow, yeah. xD Someone gave me a command that was to help me conveniantely erase multiple files of the same name so I wouldn't have to do it by hand. I copied their command and forgot to change "file.so" in their example to what I needed.
[07:03] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: yes thats wut i meant, alright cool i will upgrade then
[07:03] <crazy_penguin> mindstat: i don't have problems with it, only with changes in the language
[07:04] <Bsims> smoenux: worst case rm the users .gnome2 directory
[07:04] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: does it come in english?
[07:04] <IcemanV9> Bsims: looks great; as long as it's working for you -- i will take a look at rdiff-backup
[07:04] <monzie> i want my cpu fan to run
[07:04] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, which .so ?
[07:04] <Bsims> but that will delete everything
[07:04] <crazy_penguin> mindstat: what do you mean?
[07:04] <monzie> can someone please tell me the command for my laptop fan to be on all the time?
[07:04] <crazy_penguin> mindstate: what do you mean?
[07:04] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, next time a ls before rm would've been better
[07:04] <Bsims> IcemanV9: just change the command from rdiff-backup to rsync
[07:04] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: nevermind lol
[07:04] <Bsims> IcemanV9: I used it sunday to restore from a disk crash
[07:04] <smoenux> Bsims: is there no way for me to change everything back to the defaults? Will I lose my emails and adresses in amarok ?
[07:05] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: did you update thru apt? how did u install it
[07:05] <crazy_penguin> mindstate: sorry i'm not a native english speaker
[07:05] <crazy_penguin> mindstate: yes
[07:05] <Bsims> smoenux: yuppers though there may be better way to do it
[07:05] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: alright i'll give it whirl
[07:05] <crazy_penguin> mindstate: you have to download manually the docs and put them into the tmp directory
[07:05] <smoenux> >.<
[07:05] <Bsims> smoenux: that is why I said worse case
[07:05] <smoenux> oh
[07:05] <smoenux> ok ^_^
[07:05] <crazy_penguin> mindstate: but for that you will be instructed by apt-get when it needs it
[07:05] <smoenux> sounds positive at lease
[07:06] <Bsims> try poking around in .gnome2 ya might be able to fix it from there
[07:06] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: ah i see, so everything is automatic pretty much?
[07:06] <AmaroqWolf> yellow: So far, I know that I lost libaudiofile.so.0, libfile.so, and libbxkbfile.so. I managed to reinstall the packages that needed those (from failsafe terminal mode), and everything seems to be working alright. I'm not sure though, if any others are gone.
[07:06] <crazy_penguin> mindstate: yes
[07:06] <IcemanV9> Bsims: i have no idea how rdiff-backup runs compared to rsync; it would be good idea to test it to another place 'til you're sure.
[07:06] <bauer77> is there any way to tell if your IP is being banned by a room?
[07:06] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, lol  g'luck
[07:06] <mindstate> crazy_penguin: okie doke
[07:07] <Bsims> IcemanV9: its rsync with hardlinks to older versions
[07:07] <fenrig> hi
[07:07] <ubunturich> i think im goin to try to install OSS drivers to get quake3 to work
[07:07] <bauer77> for some reason I can get into any room except the asterisk room
[07:07] <fenrig> how can i set up a sound server?
[07:08] <theacolyte> Trying to install 6.10: Go to boot live CD and it gives an error "Buffer I/O Error on Device sr0" -- I've tried irqpoll, pci=noacpi, ide=nodma, ide=reverse, doesn't seem to work... any ideas?
[07:08] <mistform> theacolyte, hard drive doesn't like you?
[07:08] <mistform> what is device sr0?
[07:08] <LTL> bauer77 - try changing to a non-numeric nick.  ie., too bot-like.
[07:08] <AmaroqWolf> yellow: lol thank you. They had me run a for i in 'locate file.so'; do sudo rm $i; done. I was supposed to change "file.so" to "libflashplayer.so", but I didn't think of that.
[07:08] <N1kki> anyone here good at networking?
[07:08] <bauer77> thanks LTL
[07:09] <theacolyte> mistform: Good question. I have 2x SATA, my CDROM is SATA as well
[07:09] <mistform> damn
[07:09] <mistform> ah
[07:09] <theacolyte> I'm assuming that sr0 is my SATA CDROM
[07:09] <mistform> I think thate sr = serial-rom
[07:09] <fenrig> euhm
[07:09] <theacolyte> Impossible to tell though
[07:09] <mistform> possibly a conflict with your drivers while installing Ubuntu
[07:09] <fenrig> how do i set up a sound server for edgy?
[07:09] <tom47> gaim and synaptic are failing witha message unable to contact 10.1.1.1:8080 yet firefox and thiunderbird are ok any idea?
[07:10] <theacolyte> Well, it gets as far as Booting the kernel... then it starts throwing those errors repeatedly
[07:10] <rellik> N1kki, what's your question?
[07:10] <Zaggynl> LjL, you there?
[07:10] <monzie> can someone please tell me the command for my laptop fan to be on all the time?
[07:10] <bauer77> LTL: that wasnt it..hehe
[07:10] <LTL> Zaggynl - yes
[07:10] <mistform> theacolyte, do you have a disc in the drive?
[07:10] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, lol , let me copy down those cmds and try
[07:10] <monzie> i have an Hp nx6235
[07:10] <Zaggynl> LjL, I'm at the grub edit screen, but I'm not sure where to put 'profile'
[07:10] <AmaroqWolf> nooo dont
[07:10] <N1kki> question is, how do I go about setting up a Ubuntu box as a router
[07:10] <theacolyte> mistform: right now? I can put in the ubuntu disk
[07:10] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, :P j/k
[07:10] <monzie> i want the cpu fan to run all the time?
[07:10] <AmaroqWolf> xD haha
[07:10] <LTL> Zaggynl - weird. can you open your own channel?
[07:11] <IcemanV9> Bsims: i gotta go (kids are driving me crazy; lunch time); like i said test your script to a different place 'til you like it. good luck.
[07:11] <mistform> theacolyte, try to disable booting from your sr0 drive, and see if it will ignore it for now
[07:11] <Zaggynl> LTL, huh?
[07:11] <N1kki> basically have 3 PC's connected to each other and need machine 1 to talk to machine 3 via machine 2 (machine 2 is ubuntu)
[07:11] <LTL> Zaggynl - now youre talking ident.
[07:11] <AmaroqWolf> yellow, do you have a relatively average install of dapper? If so, can you run a locate file.so, to give me an idea of what else might be missing?
[07:11] <Zaggynl> LTL, ...what?
[07:11] <Bsims> just wanted to share it
[07:11] <rellik> N1kki, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[07:12] <Zaggynl> LTL, anyway, I'm at the grub edit screen, and I'm wondering where to put the 'profile'
[07:12] <LTL> Zaggynl - in an xterm  type 'IRCNAME='SOMEBODY' then, 'export IRCNAME=somebody'
[07:12] <Zaggynl> LTL, what for?
[07:12] <N1kki> Thanks Rellik , is iptables the only/primary way to do this
[07:12] <LTL> Zaggynl - that'll change your info line
[07:12] <TuTUx> there is a new upgrade package linux-header-386 version 2.6.17.11 for 6.10 can not be install
[07:13] <Linkmasta23> i have a question
[07:13] <Zaggynl> LTL, my whois info line you mean?
[07:13] <Moosejaw> can anyone recommend a good working sources list?  mine is large, but it seems like alot of sites arent working
[07:13] <TuTUx> there is a new upgrade package linux-header-386 version 2.6.17.11 for 6.10 can not be install
[07:13] <LTL> Zaggynl - correct, but that cant be the problem.
[07:13] <theacolyte> N1kki: if you can't get ubuntu working for you, I really would suggest taking a look at IPCOP -- you can run it on a calculator if it has 2 NIC's
[07:13] <Zaggynl> LTL, problem is, I don't really see the problem
[07:13] <tom47> why would i suddenly be getting unable to contact <router>:8080 in ubuntu for synaptic and gaim yet firefox and thunderbird are fine?
[07:13] <LTL> Zaggynl - can you open your own channel?
[07:13] <Linkmasta23> do i have to burn an installer disk to upgrade my ubuntu to the next version?
[07:13] <theacolyte> It's more suited to playing a gateway/firewall (built from the ground up for it)
[07:14] <Zaggynl> LTL, yep
[07:14] <TuTUx> there is a new upgrade package linux-header-386 version 2.6.17.11 for 6.10 can not be installed and asking for linux-headers-2.6.17.11-386
[07:14] <Zaggynl> LTL, and I get chanserv in it :o
[07:14] <rellik> N1kki, never done a set up like that, but I believe so
[07:14] <eXistenZ> What would it be better to use a shared filesystem for windows and linux: vFAT or ext3?
[07:14] <maax> bonsoir
[07:14] <Linkmasta23> do i have to burn an installer disk to upgrade my ubuntu to the next version?
[07:14] <rellik> N1kki, not the "only" way..  just the common way
[07:14] <N1kki> I've already used ipcop :), this is actually for a project hence have to use Ubuntu :)
[07:14] <Zaggynl> LTL, nvm, was only in the #rofl channel
[07:14] <TuTUx> there is a new upgrade package linux-header-386 version 2.6.17.11 for 6.10 can not be installed and asking for linux-headers-2.6.17.11-386
[07:14] <theacolyte> Gotcha
[07:14] <TuTUx> help??
[07:14] <N1kki> ah right ok, cool this should put me on the right track
[07:14] <LTL> Zaggynl - um, youre in a dozen channels, whats the problem again?
[07:14] <N1kki> Thanks a lot guys :)
[07:14] <Linkmasta23> do i have to burn an installer disk to upgrade my ubuntu to the next version?
[07:14] <theacolyte> Well IPCOP *really* is is IPTABLES with a few other apps
[07:15] <theacolyte> Linkmasta23: no
[07:15] <Zaggynl> LTL, heheh, I'm wondering where to put 'profile' in my grub list
[07:15] <djidane> hi
[07:15] <Linkmasta23> thank you theacolyte
[07:15] <djidane> i have got a problem during the edgy installation
[07:15] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, http://www.pastebin.ca/345636 , sorry the pastbin is kind of slow
[07:15] <theacolyte> Unless you are upgrading from a non-concurrent version, like 5.10 to 6.10 etc
[07:15] <djidane> when he tries to configure apt
[07:15] <LTL> Zaggynl - hrm, i dont think you can.
[07:15] <TuTUx> there is a new upgrade package linux-header-386 version 2.6.17.11 for 6.10 can not be installed and asking for linux-headers-2.6.17.11-386?
[07:15] <djidane> he feeze
[07:15] <Zaggynl> LTL, someone called LjL told me you can D:
[07:15] <Zaggynl> *confused*
[07:16] <Linkmasta23> no 6.10 to the next
[07:16] <AmaroqWolf> yellow: wow, I'm missing alot of stuff. xD
[07:16] <djidane> do you have any idea why ?
[07:16] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, some of it you might not need, like kvirc
[07:16] <bauer77> how do open up a picture  with a specific application via command line?
[07:17] <Bsims> bauer77: try whatever /path/to/picture.jpg
[07:17] <AmaroqWolf> yellow: Some of it I don't know what it is. Oh, and my sound is playing at slightly higher pitch and speed for some reason. xD A shutdown, waiting for a few seconds and then restarting should fix that though. It always does.
[07:17] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, lol strange beast you got there
[07:17] <LTL> try gthumb pic.png bauer77
[07:17] <yellow> lol
[07:18] <AmaroqWolf> yellow: lol, yeah. It seems to like to do that sometimes if I start it up too soon after shutting down.
[07:18] <^aciDbURn^> hi all
[07:18] <Lunar_Lamp> TuTUx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[07:18] <sketcher> I just burned a (intel) DVD image of ubuntu 6.10 on a dvd and popped it in my PC but after the splashscreen/loading screen the monitor loses its signal, :(
[07:18] <bauer77> thanks LTL I think that helped me find my mistake
[07:18] <yellow> AmaroqWolf, that reminds me of some TVs i've encountered, *kick it >> not works >> kick it some more >> still not works >>> karate chop >>> voila
[07:19] <MrBallZ> hi, I'm having a problem, I was trying to play a .flv video and well I was able to do it after many attempts with different video players, the problem is that now when I turn the computer and log in , I get an error saying someting about " octect mime type" and i get like 15 small windows ... how can I know what's the thing causing that problem ...
[07:19] <^aciDbURn^> I need some help updating my ubuntu 5.10 to the latest version, can someone please help me out?
[07:19] <AmaroqWolf> yellow: haha.
[07:19] <tom47> what would cause the sudden onset of "unable to contact <router address .. 10.1.1.1>:8080
[07:19] <mistform> sketcher, does it fail with other OS's?
[07:19] <Lunar_Lamp> tom47, cable worked loose?
[07:19] <sketcher> no, I have windows xp sp2 installed on the system and it boots fine,
[07:20] <sketcher> just when I try booting into ubuntu dvd it blacks out
[07:20] <^aciDbURn^> what command do I need to update my ubuntu 5.10 to the latest version?
[07:20] <tom47> Lunar_Lamp, no works fine for firefox and thunderbird but not gaim or synaptic
[07:20] <Lunar_Lamp> sketcher, have you tried booting into safe graphics mode?
[07:21] <jrsup1> can anyone tell me why when I do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it automatically selects the keyboard option lv3:ralt_switch?
[07:21] <Midazolam> hello, i am trying to set up a LVM array - i have 2 sata drives, marked as raid 0 via nvraid - setup
[07:21] <Midazolam> im in the alternate installation mode, and created a boot partition as primary now i set up 3 lvm which i combined as one group. now, i try to enter name for the logical drives and allocate disc space - but it doesnt accept slashes. how am i supposed to name the root partition then!?
[07:21] <varsendaggr> hey does gnome support the palm zire 21?
[07:21] <Midazolam> by slash i mean a /
[07:21] <jrsup1> and what is the lv3 option?
[07:21] <sketcher> i tried booting into graphics safe mode, and same thing, except that after the loading splashscreen disappears and it saying "no signal input " on my monitor, it just is all black, nothing at all
[07:21] <bauer77> and if there is a space in the file name what do I have to put in there, since I know there should not be spaces
[07:21] <^aciDbURn^> I did: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade and what to do now?
[07:22] <mistform> sketcher, are you using a pci/agp graphics card, or onboard?
[07:22] <davin> bauer77: i.e.: Program\ Files/
[07:22] <davin> bauer77: \ after word then space
[07:22] <bauer77> thanks
[07:22] <sketcher> I have a ATI All-In-Wonder 8500DV video card, and my monitor is a Princeton 21'' LCD, connected via DVI
[07:22] <varsendaggr> Does anyone know if the zire 21 with a dead battery can be turned on with the mini usb plugged in?
[07:22] <christopherl> Is there any add-on, to add an advanced font setup to toolbar?
[07:23] <sketcher> its AGP, 64mb
[07:23] <mistform> sketcher, search the ubuntu forums to see if anyone else had problems with an ATI A-I-W
[07:23] <Lunar_Lamp> sketcher, do you have more than one graphics card, or video card output? It sounds like you may be sending your output via the wrong one.
[07:24] <^aciDbURn^> so nobody know how to update ubuntu linux?
[07:24] <sketcher> no, just one video card, the only output on my pc is the one going to my monitor, i dont even have a VGA output on my pc, im just using the ATI cards DVI output
[07:25] <mistform> yes, if your video card has multiple outputes then Ubuntu might be trying to send the signal via a different output
[07:25] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, wait there, I'll find you a link :-) 5.10-->6.06?
[07:25] <TooR4u> hii .. what is the equivalent for swift3d in linux?
[07:25] <Midazolam>  anyone how can help me with lvm ? i dont know how to name the logical drvies - it wont accept  " / " , e.g. when i want to specify a root location i should put a / there, how do i name the root location then?
[07:25] <^aciDbURn^> I found links but it does not work what is written there
[07:25] <PovAddict> hi
[07:25] <mistform>  !upgrade
[07:25] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:25] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[07:25] <mistform> ?kernelupgrade
[07:25] <mistform> !kernelupgrade
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernelupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <mistform> !kernel upgrade
[07:26] <mistform> ?
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <mistform> oh well
[07:26] <sketcher> I tried looking on the forums mistform but couldnt find anything, i posted a thread there too
[07:26] <sketcher> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2124491#post2124491
[07:26] <^aciDbURn^> I did: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade and what to do now?
[07:26] <Lunar_Lamp> mistform: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[07:26] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, you need to edit your sources list to look at dapper repositories :-)
[07:26] <^aciDbURn^> :-S sounds diffcult
[07:26] <PovAddict> I just tried to update apt packages, and there is an "upgradable package" linux-image-386, which now depends on linux-image-2.6.15-28-386 which is NOT on the repository o.O
[07:27] <^aciDbURn^> do I have to update to 6.06 before I can update to 6.10?
[07:27] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, no, it's easy :-)
[07:27] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, yes, you should.
[07:27] <AlexC_> IS it possible to focefully change Mac-address on Ubuntu?
[07:27] <^aciDbURn^> ok thank you
[07:27] <Lunar_Lamp> PovAddict, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[07:27] <capgadget> mac addr is physically in the nic card
[07:27] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, read the link I gave you, it gives you simple instructions :-)
[07:27] <capgadget> THey are unique the world over 'cept bootleg cards
[07:27] <TooR4u> hii .. what is the equivalent for swift3d in linux?
[07:28] <^aciDbURn^> ok I'm going to read it
[07:28] <Moosejaw> anyone else having issues with packages.freecontrib.org?
[07:28] <AlexC_> capgadget: yes, true - but I'm pretty sure I've changed the mac-address before, I just forgot how
[07:28] <Lunar_Lamp> capgadget, you're wrong, you can change mac addresses in network cards (or at least spoof them).
[07:28] <mistform> ^aciDbURn^, Please, people; if you plan on upgrading to Edgy Eft 6.10, use the OFFICIAL upgrade method: Code:$ gksu "update-manager -c"
[07:28] <Lunar_Lamp> Unfortunately I'm unsure how to do it in ubuntu
[07:28] <mistform> ^aciDbURn^,  that's a quote from: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286599
[07:28] <AlexC_> Lunar_Lamp: I think it was in something like /etc/hosts/interfaces ... but that's not the file
[07:28] <theacolyte> You should be able to do MAC address spoofing, at the very least, though I'm unsure how to do it
[07:28] <Akuma_> i have an old pc and i'd like to use it as a basic server; which variant should i use? whats the difference between server and alternate? and is xubuntu the same as server + xfce?
[07:29] <soundray> !macchanger | AlexC_
[07:29] <ubotu> alexc_: macchanger: utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB
[07:29] <Lunar_Lamp> AlexC_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331905
[07:29] <^aciDbURn^> I tried that command but it doesn't do anything
[07:29] <AlexC_> soundray: ahh, thank you
[07:29] <AlexC_> Lunar_Lamp: thanks :P
[07:29] <mistform> if I upgrade to Edgy, will I have to redo a whole lot of things, IE, reextract the firmware for my bcm43xx?
[07:30] <mistform> and any other thigns?
[07:30] <TooR4u> hii .. what is the equivalent for swift3d in linux?
[07:30] <MonsieurBon> hello
[07:30] <killermach> I goto Places -> Network Servers, and I cannot connect to a samba share on 192.168.1.2, however if I open konsole and smbclient -L 192.168.1.2, I see the list of shares, so network and firewall work, How do I map a share in ubuntu?
[07:30] <AlexC_> hey
[07:30] <Lunar_Lamp> mistform, I'm not sure. Probably not, however, bcm43xx was a nightmare, so perhaps...
[07:30] <MonsieurBon> there are three important security updates I can't install. why is that?
[07:31] <Lunar_Lamp> killermach, places>connect to server
[07:31] <spanglesontoast> how do I connect a wireless network using iwconfig ? because the network-manager is way slow
[07:31] <Lunar_Lamp> MonsieurBon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[07:31] <mistform> Lunar_Lamp, right now the Gnome Network Manager won't see my eth1 connection (which is my wireless)
[07:31] <mistform> so I'm SoL on wireless
[07:31] <mistform> and Wifi-Radar won't connect to my network, either
[07:31] <soundray> !edgykernel | MonsieurBon
[07:31] <ubotu> MonsieurBon: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[07:31] <Lunar_Lamp> mistform, are you on bcm4321?
[07:31] <mistform> 4306
[07:31] <mistform> it's a Dell Latitude D600 laptop
[07:32] <Lunar_Lamp> mistform, ah, ok, I have 4321 (which was even more of a git to get working), so you;ll have to check the forums. If it's not working now though, you can't really break it more by upgrading I don't think!
[07:32] <MonsieurBon> soundray: heisst fr mich soviel wie abwarten und tee trinken?
[07:33] <Lunar_Lamp> !de | MonsieurBon
[07:33] <ubotu> MonsieurBon: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:33] <soundray> MonsieurBon: ja
[07:33] <killermach> Lunar_Lamp: I put in the server, share, user, domain, but what do I put in folder and name for connection?
[07:33] <Midazolam> how should i name the logical volumes in LVM ?
[07:33] <notgod> so is reizerfs dead?
[07:34] <killermach> Lunar_Lamp: n/m.. I clicked help.. lemme read then I'll ask again if need
[07:34] <PriceChild> notgod, no
[07:34] <AlexC_> notgod: no, but something else is ........
[07:34] <Yggdrasil> heyllo is there a place that i can download bcm43xx-fwcutter.deb file for installation for abox that is not onnline ?
[07:34] <||cw> notgod: what would make you think that
[07:34] <Lunar_Lamp> killermach, for a "windows share" that is all optional information.  Make sure you choose "windows share" and not "ftp" which is the default :-)
[07:34] <notgod> just curious if it was still in active development.
[07:34] <Lunar_Lamp> Yggdrasil, I think the ubuntuforums would be a good place to check, I think I've seen that on there before :-)
[07:35] <Yggdrasil> thanks
[07:35] <||cw> notgod: v3 is "stable", but 4 in devel
[07:35] <notgod> wow, I guess it's a touchy subject.
[07:35] <Yggdrasil> jsut i know its an apt-cache get but cant figure out how to just dl the file.
[07:35] <MonsieurBon> Lunar_Lamp soundray: sorry for german! :)
[07:35] <Lunar_Lamp> MonsieurBon, don't worry :-)  I feel ignorant for only knowing how to speak English anyway ;-)
[07:35] <Fedge> Is 1GB of hdd space enough for a base edgy desktop install?
[07:35] <Tonren> When I shut down, my laptop doesn't ACTUALLY shut down.  It doesn't even fully turn off the monitor.  It just sits there, on, frozen, unresponsive, eating batteries.  I have Kubuntu 6.10 on an HP Compaq v2565us.  Anyone have any hints?
[07:36] <mistform> warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[07:36] <mistform> ???
[07:36] <MonsieurBon> is it possible to integrate a console into the desktop?
[07:36] <||cw> Yggdrasil: search for apt, there an apt tool that can download files and even whole update sets to install on an offline pc
[07:36] <PovAddict> Lunar_Lamp: thanks for the forum link, I guess I'll just wait and not upgrade packages yet
[07:36] <soundray> MonsieurBon: shall we give Lunar_Lamp an introductory lesson? ;)
[07:36] <^aciDbURn^> Lunar_Lamp the page says I need version "0.42.2ubuntu12~breezy1" or newer of Update-manager but I have 0.37 and synaptic says it is the newest
[07:36] <MonsieurBon> soundray: would be fun! ;)
[07:36] <Lunar_Lamp> Fedge, I don't think so. Perhaps a very specialised install - try the server install.
[07:36] <PovAddict> Lunar_Lamp: (kernel problem)
[07:36] <soundray> MonsieurBon: do you mean running a console on the root window?
[07:36] <Fedge> Lunar_Lamp: How 'bout 1.7GB?
[07:37] <killermach> Lunar_Lamp: I chose windows share and filled in all the blanks, click Connect, and the window closes and never produces anything, never asks for a pass even
[07:37] <||cw> Yggdrasil: apt-zip i think
[07:37] <Lunar_Lamp> Fedge, I've never installed ubuntu on a hard drive where space is tight
[07:37] <thekidrio> monsierBon, i have it so i hit my windows key
[07:37] <Lunar_Lamp> !ubuntu-server | Fedge
[07:37] <ubotu> Fedge: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[07:37] <mistform> ^aciDbURn^, repo problem?
[07:37] <Lunar_Lamp> That may be your best bet.
[07:37] <TooR4u> i want to know how to produce these effects     http://www.mix-fx.com/samples.htm
[07:37] <MonsieurBon> soundray: i'm not sure what the root window is! :) But i like to have the console directly over my wallpaper (semi) transparent
[07:37] <^aciDbURn^> I want to update from 5.10
[07:37] <||cw> Fedge: also look into xubuntu
[07:37] <notgod> Does the default ATI driver support accelerated OpenGL ?
[07:38] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, paste your /etc/apt/sources.lst onto pastebin and give us the link - it's probably an error there.
[07:38] <kamillo1888> hello! What is "Non-free">> ??
[07:38] <TooR4u> how to produce the good text effects in flash .....
[07:38] <sketcher> not sure notgod
[07:38] <MonsieurBon> soundray: I dan do that with devilspie, but the windo disappears the moment i click somewhere else on the desktop.
[07:38] <TooR4u> i want good tutorial
[07:38] <sketcher> notgood: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[07:38] <AlexC_> kamillo1888: something that .... isn't free
[07:38] <Lunar_Lamp> kamillo1888, it depends on context.  The English language has two kinds of free: free from restrictions, and free from cost.
[07:38] <killermach> Lunar_Lamp: I open a konqueror and type this URL "smb://192.168.1.2/photos" and I"m greeted w/ a user/pass login, I login and see my files
[07:38] <kamillo1888> haha i know........
[07:38] <AlexC_> kamillo1888: ie, it could be closed-sorce
[07:38] <AlexC_> flash, for example is non-free
[07:38] <mistform> kamillo1888, typically copyright programs that normally aren't in your distribution
[07:39] <killermach> Lunar_Lamp: not sure what I'm missing in ubuntu
[07:39] <kamillo1888> that is program in linux ubuntu 6.12 PL
[07:39] <mistform> something to the extent of Adobe Acrobat Reader
[07:39] <kamillo1888> :P
[07:39] <soundray>  MonsieurBon: I guess "On Top" from the window menu doesn't help?
[07:39] <mistform> I'm not an expert on the issue, however
[07:39] <dede_> killermach: if you want to see your windows sharhes you could also use fusesmb,  (example: sudo apt-get install fusesmb; mkdir /home/$USER/network; fusesmb /home/$USER/network)
[07:39] <notgod> Does the install DVD come with the server version of ubuntu?
[07:40] <||cw> dede_: how stable is that, can you let it sit for days and it still work?
[07:40] <Fedge> ubotu: is 6.10 not the current server version?
[07:40] <^aciDbURn^> Lunar_Lamp what is pastebin?
[07:40] <MonsieurBon> soundray: no, that keeps the windows ontop all the others. But I want it below all the others, but alway over the desktop.
[07:40] <bigno> hi
[07:40] <apokryphos> ^aciDbURn^: /msg ubotu pastebin
[07:40] <notgod> Thinking about converting one of my servers, to test.
[07:40] <Lunar_Lamp> !pastbin | ^aciDbURn^
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <apokryphos> Fedge: ubotu is a bot.
[07:40] <Lunar_Lamp> !pastebin > ^aciDbURn^
[07:40] <Fedge> yeah, just figured that out =\
[07:40] <bigno> hi
[07:40] <soundray> MonsieurBon: I seem to remember from my KDE days that you can put any program's graphical output up as the wallpaper. Not sure about gnome.
[07:40] <apokryphos> hi
[07:41] <^aciDbURn^> !pastebin
[07:41] <bigno> is there some1 could help me
[07:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:41] <soundray> !ask | bigno
[07:41] <ubotu> bigno: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <lordkeiden> ok, i'm trying to setup ubuntu without automatix, cuz it has such a nasty rep. what repo do i add to synaptics to install the non-free codecs to be able to view wma's mpeg's, mov's etc...etc...?
[07:41] <MrBallZ> in my list of processes I have this one:  kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-user1/klauncherBaHaha.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-user1/kdesktopkwz5qa.slave-socket  , can this be the cause why I get many error windows right after I log into kde ???
[07:41] <bigno> how to install kdelibs4c2a?
[07:42] <Lunar_Lamp> !restrictedformats | lordkeiden
[07:42] <ubotu> lordkeiden: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <bigno> it depends on kde-libs-bin
[07:42] <killermach> dede_: I usually (in Mandrake/mandriva) have a /home/user/mnt/smbserver/share map to the shares
[07:42] <tdn> Can anyone please help me fix this problem: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=363? apt-get tells me something about broken packages.
[07:42] <soundray> bigno: 'sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2a'
[07:42] <Lunar_Lamp> !edgykernel | tdn
[07:42] <ubotu> tdn: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[07:42] <bigno> but kde-libs-bin also depends on kdelibs4c2a..
[07:43] <tdn> Lunar_Lamp, ok. Thanks.
[07:43] <bigno> i dont have internet connection
[07:43] <dyrne> bah. just nmblookup -A ipaddress  then smbclient -L hostname -I ipaddress; then smbclient //hostname/share -I ipaddress  :)
[07:43] <bigno> i just download the deb file and install on my box
[07:43] <killermach> dede_: to get the file I needed to attach to a webmail email, I had to copy it to the desktop then browse for it, now I can delete from desktop, I'd prefer not to do all the file moving
[07:43] <tinto> hey guys... anyone know how to run a X-desktop over ssh? I can only find info regarding runnning apps - not running an X server...?
[07:43] <MonsieurBon> soundray: but I don't like to have the console spread over the whole desktop. It should be about a quarter of the desktop in the lover right corner. placing and transparency, having no taskbar entry and not making it disappear when i click on "show desktop" works, but the windows vanishes the moment i click somewhere on the desktop
[07:44] <soundray> bigno: in that case, try installing both of them with 'dpkg -i --force-depends packagename.deb'
[07:44] <steel_lady> question: I have apache installed. yesterday everything was working perfectly, today I put localhost in browser and it can not open. restarting apache does not help!!!
[07:44] <^aciDbURn^> Lunar_Lamp here is my paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4742/
[07:44] <knoppix> salut
[07:45] <soundray> MonsieurBon: you're not asking for much then ;)
[07:45] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, do you have internet access on your ubuntu machine ^aciDbURn^ ? If so give me two mins and I'll edit it for you :-)
[07:45] <soundray> bigno: add 'sudo ' to the dpkg
[07:45] <ubuntu_> Do any one have a installer script for qemu and kqemu?
[07:45] <Linkmasta23> !trivia
[07:45] <ubotu> The #ubuntu-trivia channel is a place for testing your brain power and having fun! We schedule themed quizzes, every Friday, to test your knowledge of your favourite operating system (Ubuntu, of course!) and keep you exercising those cranial muscles.
[07:45] <^aciDbURn^> yes I have
[07:46] <^aciDbURn^> but this is not the entire file the end is cut off
[07:46] <steel_lady> alguien familiar with apache???
[07:46] <ubuntu_> aciDbURn: you do?
[07:46] <Midazolam> could anyone please tell me how many logical drives i should specify in LVM and how i should name them?
[07:46] <Linkmasta23> YAY i have burned the installer disk
[07:47] <soundray> MonsieurBon: I think you're on the right track with devilspie, but I don't know if what you want to do is possible. Maybe a gdesklet would do something similar?
[07:47] <MonsieurBon> soundray: to be reserved is my nature! :) As I'm saying: my only problem is that the damn console disappears when i click on the desktop. Turns out to be a big one...
[07:47] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, ok, well, basically, you see the first line where it talks about a cdrom? Put a "#" in front of that. The other lines that start with "deb" or "deb-src" remove the "#" and then replaces all instaces of "breezy" with "dapper".
[07:47] <chm0d1005> grr how come i can't link my other nick to my primary?  when I try to do it it says /msg unknown cmd
[07:47] <yellow> Linkmasta23, yay, time to put it in the microwave >_>
[07:47] <yellow> :P
[07:47] <chm0d1005> grr
[07:47] <ubuntu_> Sorry, Hello everyone
[07:47] <^aciDbURn^> okay
[07:48] <steel_lady> question: I have apache installed. yesterday everything was working perfectly, today I put localhost in browser and it can not open. restarting apache does not help!!!
[07:48] <Linkmasta23> why should i put it in the microwave?
[07:48] <bigno> ok. thx. ill try that.
[07:48] <yellow> steel_lady, try ps aux |grep apache
[07:48] <ubuntu_> Do any one have a installer script for qemu and kqemu?
[07:48] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, then you do "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in that order.
[07:49] <yellow> steel_lady, is it running ?
[07:49] <Davegoodson> hey, can anyone help me? ive just messed up libfontconfig1
[07:49] <soundray> Lunar_Lamp: why update twice? And last time I checked, dist-upgrade implied upgrade
[07:49] <chm0d1005> ugh im beginning to hate freenode
[07:49] <chm0d1005> dont make any sense
[07:49] <steel_lady> yellow, it is not
[07:50] <wceoscar> how can i make my tabs like windows???  i dont want the ubuntu look cause it takes the whole tab bar.
[07:50] <cizra> Hi there.
[07:50] <yellow> steel_lady, did you try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ?
[07:50] <cizra> How do I set up sshfs (with FUSE), so that users can use it?
[07:50] <chm0d1005> eww dont say that word in there wceoscar
[07:50] <chm0d1005> :P
[07:50] <chm0d1005> windows
[07:50] <chm0d1005> yuk
[07:50] <cizra> Currently a regular user isn't permitted to.
[07:50] <hitammanis> question: Do any one have a installer script for qemu and kqemu?
[07:50] <Lunar_Lamp> soundray, update twice was a typo due to not paying attention. I also think that dist-upgrade implies upgrade, but I know that it's safe to do it in two steps and haven't tried doing it in one.  Didn't want to risk someone elses machine.
[07:50] <wceoscar> chm, sorry man
[07:50] <chm0d1005> im j/k :P
[07:51] <Pici> wceoscar: Ignore him, what do you want it to do?
[07:51] <steel_lady> yellow I did
[07:51] <soundray> wceoscar: if you rightclick on the tiny bar to the left of the tabs, you can open the Preferences dialog and set the size you prefer
[07:51] <chm0d1005> shees Pici alittle harsh aren't you
[07:51] <yellow> steel_lady, was there any error messages ?
[07:51] <hitammanis> anyone please
[07:51] <steel_lady> yellow, it is happening on another computer also, from the beginning it was not reacting when I put localhost in the browser
[07:52] <steel_lady> where yellow?
[07:52] <wceoscar> soundray, what would be a nice size?? like the win style
[07:52] <soundray> wceoscar: and don't let yourself be scared, we're not really that dogmatic in here
[07:52] <Pici> chm0d1005: Sarcasm doesnt get percieved well via text, some people dont know when you are joking (even if I did)
[07:52] <MonsieurBon> soundray: no desklet doing this...
[07:52] <izwrong> hi all
[07:52] <yellow> steel_lady, in the console when you do sudo /etc/init.d/apche2 restart
[07:52] <izwrong> I need urgent help
[07:52] <wceoscar> ightt
[07:52] <chm0d1005> i said i was joking :P
[07:52] <hitammanis> over here :)
[07:52] <soundray> wceoscar: sorry, I don't know what size you're used to
[07:52] <Davegoodson> can anyone help me please? my libfontconfig1 is broken.. and i cant fix it :(
[07:53] <soundray> MonsieurBon: dang, that means you'll have to write one ;)
[07:53] <wceoscar> soundray, the defauld win size!!!
[07:53] <Yancho> is there a way to know who is owning a folder and what are its rights pls ?
[07:53] <soundray> wceoscar: I don't know what that is!!!
[07:53] <MonsieurBon> soundray: how does that work?
[07:53] <leal> kernel without highmen support, has limit on swap too?
[07:53] <steel_lady> a yes yellow now I see
[07:53] <steel_lady> yellow sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:53] <steel_lady>  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server...                            [fail] 
[07:53] <wceoscar> ighht
[07:53] <N1kki> Rellik are you still here by any chance
[07:54] <soundray> MonsieurBon: I don't know, I heard that it's easy though
[07:54] <LjL> Zaggynl: you don't have to *add* a "profile" item to your grub list. you need to take your *current* GRUB entry, the one you use for booting -- select it at the boot menu but *don't* press Enter, press "e" instead, and an editor will appear. there select the longest line, that which contains "quiet" and "splash", press "e", and add "profile" to the end of it. then press "b" to boot
[07:54] <izwrong> I get the following error: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4747/ and I ran fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree and it doesn't help !!! I am lost
[07:54] <MonsieurBon> soundray: easy is good. anything hard wont work anyway! :D
[07:54] <LjL> i'm afraid i can't make it any clearer than this
[07:54] <hitammanis> Please I'm begging here!
[07:55] <Tonren> When I shut down, my laptop doesn't ACTUALLY shut down.  It doesn't even fully turn off the monitor.  It just sits there, on, frozen, unresponsive, eating batteries.  I have Kubuntu 6.10 on an HP Compaq v2565us.  Anyone have any hints?
[07:55] <Zaggynl> LjL, ah okay, thanks :D
[07:55] <jule> can someone tell me how make to work my pcmcia card dwl-g650m on my notebook with backtrack live cd?
[07:55] <Pici> hitammanis: What is the issue?
[07:55] <Pntkl> yo
[07:55] <Lynoure> Tonren: there is a bug on that on Launchpad, but I cannot remember its number
[07:55] <soundray> hitammanis: if nobody is answering, nobody has one.
[07:55] <Pntkl> don't know
[07:55] <rsteele> Hello
[07:55] <amonbish> Hi
[07:55] <LjL> Zaggynl: it's also explained precisely in this paragraph https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#head-911967eb7a39d6fd7179d049f60ec6a5a5b89c1f - it does not talk about the "profile" option specifically, but it can be added like any other option
[07:55] <Tonren> Lynoure: "Launchpad"?
[07:55] <hitammanis> Pici: Do you have a installer script for qemu and kqemu?
[07:56] <Lynoure> !launchpad
[07:56] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[07:56] <codi> How do i assign a domain name to my computer?
[07:56] <amonbish> interest
[07:56] <rsteele> I'll think about it
[07:56] <chm0d1005> codi: try searching ubuntuguide.org
[07:56] <chm0d1005> lots of info there
[07:56] <Lynoure> Tonren: that is, on https://launchpad.net
[07:57] <codi> i did, i couldn't find the appropriate section. It always uses localhost?
[07:57] <chm0d1005> i know changing the domain and workgroup name are there
[07:57] <chm0d1005> k hold on sec
[07:57] <codi> there was a section for using a free domain updating service, but i already have my own domain name
[07:57] <Pici> hitammanis: I'm afraid I dont, sorry.
[07:57] <izwrong> please help me, I think I have corrupted my reiserFS /home partition ...
[07:57] <chm0d1005> codi: here you go http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_change_computer_Domain.2FWorkgroup
[07:57] <Tonren> Lynoure: Thanks.
[07:58] <MonsieurBon> soundray: superkaramba wre vielleicht etwas!
[07:58] <hitammanis> Kewl, Thanks and Thanks to everyone
[07:58] <soundray> MonsieurBon: let's make sure we don't get told off again
[07:58] <Tonren> Lynoure: I can't seem to find a bug of this description.
[07:58] <soundray> MonsieurBon: are you on KDE?
[07:58] <Akuma_> is it possible to select lilo when installing xubuntu?
[07:58] <MonsieurBon> soundray: sorry! :D told off by Lunar_Lamp?
[07:59] <Tonren> Lynoure: Oh wait... I think it's there; it was just poorly tagged.
[07:59] <rohan> is there some problem with kernels in edgy ? I have 3 packages which are not installable because of missing packages
[07:59] <soundray> !edgykernel
[07:59] <ubotu> There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[07:59] <soundray> rohan ^^
[07:59] <MonsieurBon> soundray: no, Gnome. But I run amarok. so all the libraries are installed anyway!
[07:59] <izwrong> I have submitted the error here paste.ubuntu-nl/4747
[07:59] <rohan> thanks, soundray :)
[07:59] <sketcher> so since my monitor blacks out after I boot up the ubuntu 6.10 dvd on my pc, (using ati all-in-wonder 8500 DV AGP card ) DVI input, I tried looking up some info online and I found the ATI drivers for linux on this website: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide although I dont know how to install linux drivers :(
[07:59] <rohan> kudos to apt for not breaking my system, and everyone else's too :)
[07:59] <wceoscar> is there a theme kit that makes my pc look like the mac os style!!
[07:59] <Lynoure> Tonren: If you cannot find it, I can look it up, as I seem to be subscribed to its updates still
[08:00] <Davegoodson> Can someone please help me at all? ive broken libfontconfig1 and i cant fix it!
[08:00] <Tonren> Lynoure: I think I found it.  Is it this one?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43961
[08:00] <Tomcat_> wceoscar: http://art.gnome.org/
[08:00] <soundray> wceoscar: no, but you can make your Mac look like ubuntu
[08:00] <rohan> anyone here using amarok on gnome ? are there any gotchas to be aware of, while doing it ?
[08:00] <soundray> wceoscar: I mean, there might be (thanks Tomcat_)
[08:00] <wceoscar> soundry, thats what im looking for man
[08:00] <Tonren> Lynoure: Oh my god... there are dozens of replies to this bug!  I had no idea it was so common.
[08:00] <sisirkoppaka> hi
[08:00] <Davegoodson> Can someone please help me at all? ive broken libfontconfig1 and i cant fix it!
[08:01] <rohan> is sysv-rc-conf compatible with runit ?
[08:01] <soundray> !lilo | Akuma_
[08:01] <ubotu> Akuma_: lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[08:01] <rohan> err... initng
[08:01] <sisirkoppaka> how can we completely remove the KDE apps installed on my ubuntu laptop
[08:01] <dyrne> sisirkoppaka: the trick is to remove a common dependancy a needed lib or something
[08:01] <Lynoure> Tonren: Some of the replies say probably it that it works fine for them
[08:01] <Akuma_> soundray: grub doesnt seem to play nice with my machine. i tried installing both ubuntu server and xubuntu and i get grub errors
[08:01] <soundray> Davegoodson: can you run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and put the output up on the pastebin pls? (See topic)
[08:02] <Tonren> Lynoure: Hmmm.  Well, maybe there are some workarounds.
[08:02] <rohan> sisirkoppaka: maybe removing kdebase might help, or better still remove qt. but it is bad and not recommended
[08:02] <Tonren> I'll post my logs as well.
[08:02] <soundray> Akuma_: any error code?
[08:02] <sisirkoppaka> after installing KDE my ubuntu splash changed to kubuntu
[08:02] <Akuma_> soundray: yes, 15 and 18
[08:02] <dyrne> sisirkoppaka: you can sudo apt-get remove packagename -s   to simulate and see
[08:02] <sisirkoppaka> how can I revert it back
[08:02] <soundray> Akuma_: and have you got a specific reason to assume that lilo would work better?
[08:02] <kazukisan> stew, i have a working source.list now :D
[08:02] <rohan> !usplash | sisirkoppaka
[08:02] <ubotu> sisirkoppaka: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[08:03] <chm0d> hey guys whats the path to the config file to disable nv modules?
[08:03] <Akuma_> soundray: google tells me that error 15 is probably because grub cant file vmlinuz - i checked the path in menu.lst and its fine though.
[08:03] <Akuma_> soundray: i dont, but i thought i'd try it out; i dont know what else to do
[08:04] <rohan> how do i choose with DM to start, out of both kdm and gdm ?
[08:04] <Tonren> Is there a single file where I can read a log of output generated during startup & shutdown?
[08:04] <soundray> Akuma_: where on the hard disk is your xubuntu partition? Is it a huge disk?
[08:04] <dyrne> rohan: i think sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:04] <Davegoodson> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4748/
[08:05] <rohan> dyrne: thanks :)
[08:06] <soundray> Davegoodson: did you do a partial feisty upgrade?
[08:06] <Tonren> Lynoure: lol, every single comment is another person with the problem.
[08:07] <Nds>  /msg nickserv link Nds eejvza
[08:07] <Pici> Nds: oops
[08:07] <soundray> Davegoodson: how did you manage to put fontconfig-config_2.4.2-1 on your system?
[08:07] <Davegoodson> sounray you could say that, i tried installing gnome-main-menu from the debian website.. and it wouldnt run so i tried installing that
[08:07] <Davegoodson> and then.. it went.. BROKEN
[08:07] <lordkeiden> is there a way to image my hard drive to my wifes lappy over a network? maybe by booting both on a live cd and using a crossover cable?
[08:08] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, you wish to use dd ?
[08:08] <soundray> Davegoodson: try 'sudo dpkg --force-downgrade -i /var/cache/apt/archives/fontconfig-config_2.3.2-7ubuntu2_all.deb'
[08:08] <Akuma_> soundray: i tried on two disks, 6GB and 20GB. i installed trying a few partition methods, but always with  / and swap partitions only
[08:08] <Akuma_> soundray: every time i completely erase the whole disk
[08:08] <DraxNS> or just to backup?
[08:08] <ViPER^-> Anyone here good with software raid5 in ubuntu?
[08:09] <codi> so are workgroup and domain the same thing?
[08:09] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: does dd do a direct bit by bit, so the resulting hard drive is bootable?
[08:09] <Tonren> I have the 2.6.17-10-generic i686 kernel.  However, there is a shutdown bug associated with it.  How do I install the 386 kernel and turn it into my default boot option?
[08:09] <hitammanis> What better VirtualBox or Qemu w Kqemu?
[08:09] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, afaik yes
[08:09] <Davegoodson> soundray, /var/cache/apt/archives/fontconfig-config_2.3.2-7ubuntu2_all.deb (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:09] <soundray> Akuma_: good, that excludes a few potential error sources. Is your BIOS up to dealing with disks of that size?
[08:10] <DraxNS> you just need exact size of disk
[08:10] <Davegoodson> soundray should i just download it somehow?
[08:10] <DraxNS> or bigger
[08:10] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: can it be used across the wire?
[08:10] <soundray> Davegoodson: yes, from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/
[08:10] <DraxNS> I do not see why not...
[08:10] <^aciDbURn^> Lunar_Lamp I got an error message with /var/lib/dpkg/lock blah blah
[08:10] <DraxNS> as long as you provide path... it can be.. anywhere
[08:10] <Davegoodson> soundray, theres alot of dirs there xD
[08:11] <Midazolam> how do i define a root partition with LVM (alternate disc)?
[08:11] <hitammanis> Whats better VirtualBox or Qemu w Kqemu?
[08:11] <soundray> Davegoodson: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fontconfig/
[08:11] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, did you have synaptic open at the same time as trying to do the update on the command line? If so, close synaptic and try again.
[08:11] <Akuma_> soundray: the system used to work as it is, about 6 years ago - except it used to run win98 i think
[08:11] <LjL> hitammanis: i'd say vmware ;)
[08:11] <^aciDbURn^> ok I think that was it sry :-S
[08:11] <hitammanis> okay
[08:12] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, no worries, I'm always doing that myself so I know the error message well :-)
[08:12] <codi> chm0d1005: could that tutorial have been for samba? because it's not working and complaining about my lack of samba being installed
[08:12] <LjL> hitammanis: virtualbox and qemu have both the advantage of being open-source software... however, kqemu isn't, and qemu alone is way slower than either of the alternatives
[08:12] <DraxNS> vmware server is free
[08:12] <lmosher> In the printing options the settings allow me to set my printer to duplex. In OpenOffice and in Envice it isn't letting me print duplex. Why is this? (Yes, it is a dulex printer). Acrobat reader prints duplex using lpr....
[08:12] <Davegoodson> soundray, i just tried installing it and it said the packages are broken
[08:12] <rohan> LjL: kqemu is not open source
[08:12] <DraxNS> just register at their site
[08:12] <Davegoodson> soundray, is this the right version? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fontconfig/libfontconfig1_2.4.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:12] <rohan> err
[08:12] <LjL> DraxNS: so is vmware player, if by "free" you mean price.
[08:12] <rohan> sorr
[08:12] <LjL> !vmware
[08:12] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[08:13] <rohan> LjL: kqemu is *now* open source
[08:13] <LjL> rohan: oh? since when?
[08:13] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: how do i handle the computer names? booting off the same cd image will result in same network configs, only difference being the MAC addresses...
[08:13] <DraxNS> yes.. price :-)
[08:13] <LjL> !kqemu
[08:13] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[08:13] <rohan> LjL: just a day or two
[08:13] <soundray> Davegoodson: no, I told you which version to install along with the sudo dpkg command above
[08:13] <LjL> rohan: checking
[08:13] <rohan> since feb 6, to be exact, LjL
[08:13] <hitammanis> cool thanks
[08:13] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, edit that manually later
[08:14] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: hmmmm... also, can i assign ip addresses on a live cd?
[08:14] <vox754> There seems to be a problem with the latest kernel update, from "2.6.17-10" to "2.6.17-11", there is information in the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 the short answer is "don't update right now", wait a few days.
[08:14] <soundray> rohan: that's good news
[08:14] <DraxNS> yes.. you can assign IP
[08:14] <oououmny> can anybody lend me a hand about partition and MBR issues regarding GRUB and instalation of Ubuntu ?
[08:14] <LjL> !kqemu is <sed> /non-free kernel module/a kernel module (now free under the GPL license)/
[08:14] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[08:14] <rohan> soundray: indeed :)
[08:14] <LjL> !kqemu
[08:14] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[08:14] <DraxNS> of course it will be lost after reboot
[08:14] <hitammanis> question: Are there any clean up tools for Ubuntu
[08:15] <Pici> Answer: What do you mean by clean up tools? Although I guess thats really another question.
[08:15] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: i mean during the dd session. it'll be an adhoc network with no dhcp to managed ip conflicts. wont that stop the 2 computers from even being able to communicare?
[08:15] <rohan> LjL: wow, the wiki page of kqemu is already updated !
[08:15] <Indref> Is there a file detailing the menu list in GNOME? If so, where is it?
[08:15] <soundray> Akuma_: get a grub command line (hit 'c' on the boot menu) and run 'geometry (hd0)' and 'geometry (hd1)'. Do you notice any strangeness?
[08:15] <Davegoodson> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4749/
[08:16] <hitammanis> question: Are there any system clean up tools for Ubuntu
[08:16] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, they just need to be in same subnet.. different ip-s.. set up manually
[08:16] <soundray> Davegoodson: try 'sudo dpkg --force-downgrade -i /var/cache/apt/archives/fontconfig-config_2.3.2-7ubuntu2_all.deb'
[08:16] <LjL> rohan: i suppose good fabrice bellard has realized that, with virtualbox being free software, his qemu was being left a little behind ;)
[08:16] <Indref> Does anyone know how to import the menu from GNOME into OpenBox?
[08:16] <marcfeifhofer2> Hallo, kann mir jemand bei einer Spracheinstellung in einem Forum etwas helfen?
[08:16] <Ed^> As far as I understand, the MBR contains my partition table, am I right ?
[08:16] <LjL> isn't competition good with free software now
[08:16] <soundray> Davegoodson: make sure you download the package by the name given in that command
[08:16] <LjL> !de | marcfeifhofer2
[08:16] <ubotu> marcfeifhofer2: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:16] <wceoscar> what can i do  to burn cds?
[08:17] <Yancho> anyone had any problem similar to this pls with gproftpd? it keeps saying my server is online when it is not. i just killed it
[08:17] <wceoscar> is nero availabe at synaptic?
[08:17] <rohan> LjL: hehe .. true ! :) competition is always good !
[08:17] <marcfeifhofer2> danke
[08:17] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: so the computer names wont matter?
[08:17] <rohan> wceoscar: no
[08:17] <soundray> wceoscar: insert a blank CD and follow instructions
[08:17] <marcfeifhofer2> join #ubuntu-de
[08:17] <Linkmasta23> lol
[08:17] <LjL> marcfeifhofer2:  /join #ubuntu-de
[08:17] <lmosher> In the printing options the settings allow me to set my printer to duplex. In OpenOffice and in Envice it isn't letting me print duplex. Why is this? (Yes, it is a dulex printer). Acrobat reader prints duplex using lpr....
[08:17] <wceoscar> i just wanna make a copy of an existing disk!
[08:17] <rohan> wceoscar: try k3b or brasero, both are dedicated cd burning software. the nautilius burner is good, but rather simplistic imo
[08:17] <DraxNS> no... those are just names... and they are last on list ... first is of course MAC.. then IP...
[08:17] <soundray> Oh sose Chermans again ;)
[08:17] <marcfeifhofer2> Hallo, kann mir jemand bei einer Spracheinstellung etwas helfen?
[08:18] <marcfeifhofer2> bite
[08:18] <Pici> wceoscar: Nero is not a Linux program, use gnomebaker or k3b
[08:18] <Akuma_> soundray: doing that, just a sec
[08:18] <rohan> Pici: nero for linux is available
[08:18] <soundray> Pici: Nero for Linux is a Linux program ;)
[08:18] <Pici> rohan: News to me!
[08:18] <LjL> marcfeifhofer2: you are still in the English channel ;)
[08:18] <Lynoure> wceoscar: nero is commercial software, if they make one for Linux, you can buy one, if not, you can complain to that company
[08:18] <DraxNS> and names also can be changed later on... /etc/hostname
[08:18] <Indref> Seriously, people, menus, help please! XD
[08:18] <wceoscar> hahaha
[08:18] <Solarion> anyone know why I'm not able to upgrade linux-image-generic?
[08:18] <marcfeifhofer2> ok, sorry :) so I try it in english.
[08:18] <LjL> !edgykernel | Solarion
[08:18] <ubotu> Solarion: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[08:18] <rohan> Pici: http://www.nero.com/eng/NeroLINUX.html
[08:18] <wceoscar> hey, can i burn  a copy of an existing disk with nautilus?
[08:19] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: cool. that'll save me lotsa time getting the wifes lappy setup. oh how i was dreading going thru all this again!
[08:19] <marcfeifhofer2> i have a question about the languages.
[08:19] <Solarion> LjL: danke
[08:19] <Pici> rohan: thanks :)
[08:19] <Davegoodson> soundray, that worked, no errors there
[08:19] <Davegoodson> :)
[08:19] <marcfeifhofer2> anybody here who can help me?
[08:19] <DARKGuy> Hey, does anybody know how to set up mouse button delay in X? (I have no Gnome, just fluxbox) because if I click "too fast" menus dissapear, unless I hold it long enough, for, like, 0.5 seconds, it'll work. It happens with both the left and right mouse. Any ideas?
[08:19] <VxJasonxV> I installed wpa_supplicant recently, then deleted it thinking it had nothing to do with WEP AP management
[08:19] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, np..
[08:19] <VxJasonxV> after I removed the package, I deleted /etc/wpa_supplicant. Though, it hasn't come back ever since I reinstalled wpa_supplicant
[08:19] <soundray> marcfeifhofer2: set them up in System-Administration-Languages. Log out and select a session with your choice of language.
[08:19] <Davegoodson> soundray, i just do sudo apt-get -f install now?
[08:19] <vox754> Solarion, There seems to be a problem with the latest kernel update, from "2.6.17-10" to "2.6.17-11", there is information in the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 the short answer is "don't update right now", wait a few days.
[08:19] <DARKGuy> *left and right button
[08:19] <VxJasonxV> So, I don't have the ifupdown.sh file any more, can someone tell me how to get it back?
[08:19] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, just be sure that both pc-s are at least similar
[08:20] <soundray> Davegoodson: yes, just to be sure. I think it won't report any problems now.
[08:20] <Akuma_> soundray: there's no way i can get anything command-line-ish. i get the error right away
[08:20] <^aciDbURn^> Lunar_Lamp can I specify another download location, because it is real slow :-(
[08:20] <DraxNS> as in hardware used...
[08:20] <Davegoodson> soundray, now i just restart gdm?
[08:20] <rohan> VxJasonxV: reinstall wpasupplicant
[08:20] <VxJasonxV> rohan, I did...
[08:20] <soundray> Akuma_: hmm...
[08:21] <soundray> Davegoodson: yes, or reboot if you like
[08:21] <DraxNS> anywayz... I have odd fglrx issue
[08:21] <marcfeifhofer2> i have here just this forum: http://sudtirol.bz.it/ I have just copied on the webspace and wehn you are registred, you can choice the language. but it`s possible that everybody can choice the languare befor the registration?
[08:21] <Lunar_Lamp> ^aciDbURn^, you can try removing the "de" in the url's of your repositories that make it point to the german servers, but usually your local servers are the fastest.
[08:21] <rohan> VxJasonxV: even after reinstall that file is missing ?
[08:21] <soundray> Akuma_: do you have a floppy drive?
[08:21] <Indref> Need help with menus in GNOME and Openbox, please reply.
[08:21] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: they are identical, in all ways except mac address. bought on the same day infact. so for that we are golden. thanks
[08:21] <DraxNS> anyone with ATI experience?
[08:21] <Davegoodson> soundray, thanks mate, :) i was crapping myself when i buggered up ^^
[08:21] <Lunar_Lamp> !ati
[08:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:21] <^aciDbURn^> ok
[08:21] <VxJasonxV> rohan, just did just now. and yes, it isn't there
[08:21] <christopherl> someone here using a dell laptop?
[08:21] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, you are welcome..
[08:21] <rohan> VxJasonxV: strange .. beats me, sorry
[08:21] <Indref> christopherl, Yes.
[08:21] <soundray> Davegoodson: well done. But drop the #&!%$ swearwords ;)
[08:22] <rohan> what package do i need to install, to have spell checking enabled in firefox ?
[08:22] <DraxNS> how to force fglrx to load at boot time??
[08:22] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: yes....i got rid of my lappy with an ati video and bought 2 with nvidia....the ati is awesome once you get the drivers installed. have lotsa tylenol bandy!
[08:22] <lmosher> Help: Under system->Admin->Printing I can set my printer to duplex. However in most applications (openoffice, evince) it only lets me select one-sided. I can print both sided in acroread, which uses lpr..
[08:22] <Akuma_> soundray: i do
[08:23] <marcfeifhofer2> i have here just this forum: http://sudtirol.bz.it/ I have just copiedb the languarepack (italian) on the webspace and wehn you are registred, you can choice the language. but it`s possible that everybody can choice the languare befor the registration?
[08:23] <DraxNS> I got it... and it works... just not from the boot up...
[08:23] <soundray> Akuma_: you might try booting a generic grub floppy. The GNU grub site has floppy images.
[08:23] <christopherl> Indref: Do you know if you must remove battery, when using AC adapter? To make the battery live longer
[08:24] <DARKGuy> Hey, does anybody know how to set up mouse button delay in X? (I have no Gnome, just fluxbox) because if I click "too fast" menus dissapear, unless I hold it long enough, for, like, 0.5 seconds, it'll work. It happens with both the left and right mouse. Any ideas? (I followed the instructions here: http://bulma.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1268 to add a PSX pad interface for Linux (I only followed the first step with the bunch of commands and module loading 
[08:24] <DraxNS> so that is my question... how to force fglrx to load at boot time?
[08:24] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: u got full 3d going?
[08:24] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, yes.. played chromium :-)
[08:24] <VxJasonxV> anyone? I need the /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh file back, but reinstalling isn't bringing it back
[08:24] <Indref> christopherl, I've heard that doing that can help, yes. Put the battery in an airtight bag in the freezer.
[08:25] <soundray> Akuma_: use the find command to find your kernel, then use 'root', 'kernel', 'initrd' and 'boot' to boot it
[08:25] <vox754> VxJasonxV: "locate ifupdown"
[08:25] <christopherl> Indref:say what?
[08:25] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: lol....so u see what i mean about awesome! and chromium is a brutal test for sure!
[08:25] <Indref> christopherl, Put the battery in the freezer.
[08:25] <VxJasonxV> vox754, there's plenty of files with that name, none ending in .sh however
[08:26] <soundray> marcfeifhofer2: you're not making sense. Please type '/join #ubuntu-de
[08:26] <Indref> Can anybody help me edit my menus please.
[08:26] <soundray> ' and ask your question there
[08:26] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: as for getting it up on boot...i was fighting getting it in at all. if i didn't have it on boot, i wasn't gonna get it. didn't know that your problem could exist...
[08:26] <sivik> anyone here ever get the drivers to work correctly with a ati xpress 200M
[08:26] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, me niether...
[08:27] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: lol...oh dear!
[08:27] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: what do u do to get it up after boot?
[08:27] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, oddly enough.. when I start anything that needs 3d.. it loads just fine
[08:28] <DraxNS> it starts on glxgears.. on fgl_glxgears on ctrl+alt+backpace on chromuim
[08:28] <DraxNS> just NOT on f'cnk boot
[08:28] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: on-demand 3d? wierd!
[08:28] <DraxNS> f'ckn
[08:28] <DraxNS> ;-)
[08:28] <DARKGuy> Hey, does anybody know how to set up mouse button delay in X? (I have no Gnome, just fluxbox) because if I click "too fast" menus dissapear, unless I hold it long enough, for, like, 0.5 seconds, it'll work. It happens with both the left and right mouse. Any ideas? (I followed the instructions here: http://bulma.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1268 to add a PSX pad interface for Linux (I only followed the first step with the bunch of commands and module loading 
[08:29] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: is it possible it is a powermangement thing? like a cpu varying cloch as needed?
[08:29] <cradek> DARKGuy: maybe you have 3-button emulation turned on, check xorg.conf
[08:29] <DraxNS> I have posted whole issue on ubuntu forum today....
[08:29] <DraxNS> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356200
[08:29] <sivik> how do i tell what version of a program i have installed from apt-cache
[08:29] <DraxNS> no.. I do not think it is power management related...
[08:29] <lmosher> Help: Under system->Admin->Printing I can set my printer to duplex. However in most applications (openoffice, evince) it only lets me select one-sided. I can print both sided in acroread, which uses lpr..
[08:29] <DARKGuy> cradek: Well damn I do! o.o but I don't recall having activated that o_O...
[08:30] <soundray> sivik: apt-cache policy packagename
[08:30] <cradek> DARKGuy: try turning it off - that might be the cause
[08:30] <sivik> soundray: thanks
[08:30] <DARKGuy> cradek: I will try, be right back. Thanks! :D
[08:30] <soundray> cradek: good call
[08:30] <java__> i cant configure my dail up modem what should i do ?!
[08:31] <Indref> java__, Get cable.
[08:31] <soundray> java__: what kind of modem is it, and how is it connected to your computer?
[08:31] <java__> dail up modem it is external PCI modem
[08:32] <soundray> java__: no, it isn't
[08:32] <java__> ?
[08:32] <soundray> java__: if it's PCI it's internal. If it's external, then it's serial or USB.
[08:32] <Midazolam> hello, im sorry to ask again, but i dont find any help elsewhere. i want to use lvm; how can i create a root folder?
[08:33] <java__> sorry i ment internal i wrote external by mistake (cant think all the day was tring to make it work)
[08:33] <soundray> !lvm | Midazolam
[08:33] <ubotu> Midazolam: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:33] <soundray> java__: do you know which chipset it uses?
[08:33] <Asl[a] n> are there any msn-messenger like clients for ubuntu that i can use to have an audio-conversation?
[08:33] <cradek> Asl[a] n: ekiga
[08:34] <java__> i am not sure how to know it but i got a CD for the modem (which have a driver for red hat 9 ) still dont know how to use it the file name is hsfmodem-7[1] .18.00.05oem_k2.4.20_37.9.legacy-1rh.i686.rpm.zip if that helps !!!
[08:34] <Asl[a] n> compatible with MSN?
[08:34] <cradek> doubt it
[08:34] <Asl[a] n> thats the problem, installed amsn too- no good/
[08:35] <cradek> java__: easiest fix is to get an external modem
[08:35] <soundray> java__: those are horrible devices. I suggest you get a proper external modem.
[08:35] <cradek> java__: that driver is for redhat 9 which is nothing like ubuntu
[08:35] <morrolan> !crypto
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crypto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <morrolan> !dm-crypt
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm-crypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <soundray> java__: (agree with cradek) and it's for an ancient kernel version
[08:36] <java__> cradek: is there nothing i can do about it then
[08:36] <morrolan> !encryption
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <morrolan> hmmm, stupid ubotu
[08:36] <soundray> java__: you could buy a driver for it from http://www.linuxant.com
[08:37] <java__> soundray: i cant get external modem in these days i need to make the one ihave to work
[08:37] <lordkeiden> DraxNS: wow....just read the forum port. the only thing i see is that on kernel 2.6.17, i never did get it to work right. i jumped off the cliff into feisty, which uses 2.6.20, and i got it working. I went to feisty for many reasons, non of which included video solutions. maybe there is a relationship, maybe it was a newbie getting lucky. Also, the lappy i dumped was a compaq presario m2000, sempron 3200, and the 200m
[08:37] <lordkeiden> video...very simular to your setup.
[08:37] <k31th> I am making a multipul icon in a .ico file 16/32/48/64/128 sizes however gnome/ubuntu uses the largest icon, is there a way to choose which one it uses (this is on the desktop).
[08:37] <bartmon> hello! Does anyone know how to change default file handlers? for instance, i want playlists to be opened by xmms and not totem... ktnx
[08:37] <soundray> java__: well, I guess it's linuxant, then.
[08:38] <morrolan> bartmon - right click on a filetype, goto properties > Open with... and set it up yourself
[08:38] <DraxNS> lordkeiden, I was told that x200 works fine... and it does.. just not from f'ckin boot :-/
[08:38] <bartmon> morrolan: I know about that... but if i want t
[08:38] <java__> soundray: dont they have any shareware or demo thing cause i am living in middle east and i am student so dont have master card which means i cant paythem
[08:39] <lmosher> Help: Under system->Admin->Printing I can set my printer to duplex. However in most applications (openoffice, evince) it only lets me select one-sided. I can print both sided in acroread, which uses lpr..
[08:39] <bartmon> morrolan: I want the file always to be opened by the program i select
[08:39] <morrolan> then in the list, select the default program for that file
[08:39] <atlas> hello
[08:40] <morrolan> bartmon: the program with the dot in the radio button is the default
[08:40] <soundray> java__: they have a crippled version for free. Please read the site.
[08:40] <bartmon> morrolan: I don't have any radio buttons
[08:40] <morrolan> bartmon:  hmmm, uno momento por favor
[08:40] <bartmon> morrolan: nevermind
[08:40] <java__> soundray: thanks
[08:40] <DktrKranz> hi guys
[08:41] <DktrKranz> do you have troubles with linux-image-generic package?
[08:41] <bartmon> morrolan: found the preferences under properties and then open with
[08:41] <Pici> !edgykernel | DktrKranz
[08:41] <ubotu> DktrKranz: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[08:41] <bartmon> morrolan: Thank you!!
[08:41] <morrolan> bartmon - that what I told you to do, not right click and select open with
[08:41] <morrolan> bartmon:  no problem :)
[08:41] <DktrKranz> ah, thanks Pici :D
[08:41] <olujicz> he, he, ja moram nesto da kazem na srpskom pa makar crko
[08:42] <xxl3w> once I run rdesktop in fullscreen how do I get back to x-windows without logging out of the terminal service?
[08:42] <pipegeek> howdy, folks.  I have kind of a stupid question: is there some way to print out the current operating system version?  uname doesn't do what I want; I want scripts that recognize whether they're running in ubuntu or debian, since I share a home directory between the two.
[08:42] <lordkeiden> grrrrrr.....I HATE RESTRICTIVE APPS!!!! now that i have that out....is there any way to play drm'ed (encrypted) media files in linux?
[08:42] <bartmon> olujicz: why in serbian?
[08:42] <Asl[a] n> so anyone? no suggestions to an IM client that supports MSN audio-conversation?
[08:42] <olujicz> I must
[08:42] <soundray> pipegeek: lsb_release
[08:42] <LiENUS> lordkeiden,  what form of drm?
[08:42] <LiENUS> generally no though...
[08:42] <medders> does anyone have a usenet grabber that they'd recommend? (preferably for GNOME)
[08:43] <LiENUS> buy your media elsewhere is the best thing..
[08:43] <rgrimm> pipegeek, i know one was is to 'cat /etc/issue'
[08:43] <lordkeiden> LiENUS: microsoft media center.
[08:43] <Pici> medders: Pan maybe
[08:43] <cheeseruler> hello!
[08:43] <medders> Pici: Do you know if it supports nzb?
[08:43] <eduino> how are you
[08:43] <dede_> log off
[08:43] <soundray> pipegeek: you can also check for /etc/lsb-release and /etc/redhat-release
[08:44] <Pici> medders: I don't know, sorry
[08:44] <medders> Pici: Okay, thanks
[08:44] <LiENUS> lordkeiden, you're pretty much screwed
[08:44] <axisys> what is one file or command that I can run in a terminal to show that I am running ubuntu? uname -a does not tell u that
[08:44] <pipegeek> soundray: thanks loads
[08:44] <eduino> i was wondering if you could tell me how i can install SP2 on my windows
[08:44] <Lunar_Lamp> axisys, lsb_release
[08:44] <Pici> eduino: Try ##windows
[08:44] <Lunar_Lamp> axisys, lsb_release -a
[08:44] <eduino> why
[08:44] <Lunar_Lamp> (sorry - forgot the "-a")
[08:44] <eduino> dont you know about sp2 then?
[08:45] <eduino> its very secure
[08:45] <lordkeiden> GRRRRRR..... where would i go to find out how to turn off the drm portion, or change the encryption to a linux compatible one?
[08:45] <Pici> eduino: This is an Ubuntu (Linux) support channel
[08:45] <soundray> eduino: we all love it. Now go to ##windows please
[08:45] <n2diy> eduino: we don't need SP2
[08:45] <eduino> :|
[08:45] <eduino> i dont understand
[08:46] <Pici> eduino: /join ##windows
[08:46] <Lunar_Lamp> eduino, this is a channel dedicated to an alternative to windows XP - so we're not the best people to ask about how to do things in Windows.
[08:46] <LiENUS> lordkeiden,  err generally when you buy media you dont get the option to disable drm...
[08:46] <cartfree> hey i get a black screen and a neverending blinking underscore when i shut down.... is that, uh, normal?
[08:46] <rippawallet> ok
[08:46] <rippawallet> so that fix works
[08:46] <rippawallet> but
[08:46] <rippawallet> no i get other errors
[08:46] <rippawallet> __
[08:47] <eduino> rippawallet install windows
[08:47] <soundray> cartfree: certainly not, but I get that, too, on occasion. -- Do you get ti each time?
[08:47] <anv> how I can free more ram, without reboot?
[08:47] <lordkeiden> LiENUS: this is media that came with media canter. I only buy real cd's, so i can do what i want. but i like some of what mce came with..
[08:47] <pig-wrangler> with ssh is port forwarding enabled by defualt? I keep getting a server has disabled port forwarding when using the -R
[08:47] <Chousuke> anv: close apps
[08:47] <cartfree> soundray: this after the first time i tried booting off the cd
[08:47] <trollboy> I just changed sshd to run on a non-standard port, and when I do a nmap localhost, it shows zebrasrv running on that port
[08:47] <cradek> pig-wrangler: check sshd_config
[08:47] <cartfree> last night
[08:47] <ApesMa> I have an nvidia 4400 gfx card. Just upgraded, which pulled in nvidia-glx 9714.... which no longer supports the 4400. OTOH, nvidia-glx-legacy is 78xx, which supports things older than the 4400. How can I get the 96xx nvidia-glx, which will support the 4400?
[08:48] <trollboy> why is that?
[08:48] <cartfree> makes me nervous about installing it
[08:48] <eduino> dudes, install windows xp, it got nice nvidia drivers
[08:48] <Chousuke> anv: Are you sure you need to free RAM? is the system swapping uncontrollable?
[08:48] <Chousuke> uncontrollably*
[08:49] <soundray> cartfree: there is nothing to worry about. There is a workaround involving grub if you still can't shutdown after installing
[08:49] <anv> i didn't have any apps on I had used them but after free it told that I had over 700megs in use
[08:49] <witless> in update manager, there are two updates -  linux-image-genereic and linux-headers-generic  - but they aren't selected in the UI, and i can't select them.  is this a problem?
[08:49] <Pici> !edgykernel | witless
[08:49] <ubotu> witless: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[08:49] <Chousuke> anv: that's normal
[08:49] <cradek> anv: it's normal for the system to use any available ram as cache.  don't worry about it.
[08:49] <witless> Pici: thanks
[08:49] <Lunar_Lamp> pig-wrangler, for ssh port forwarding you use "-L" not "-R" don't you?
[08:49] <fatbrain> Hello, when listing my files, can I get a numerical value for the 'access-rights' ?
[08:49] <lordkeiden> so what do i look for when buying online media to be sure i can listen/watch it in linux?
[08:49] <sivik> lordkeiden, what kind of media?
[08:50] <sivik> lordkeiden, i can watch .wma videos on my linux box
[08:50] <rippawallet> what format does swap partition need to be in?
[08:50] <anv> but it affected to xmms so that when I played with visual plugs, they were clumpy
[08:50] <pppoe_dude> anv, top should show you how much ram is actually being used by programs
[08:50] <xxl3w> When I try to use rdesktop, it runs fine, but what I was wondering is how do I switch back to my xwindows desktop without logging out of the terminal service? In windows, the remote desktop has a titlebar at the top that auto-hides but when you mouseover it appears
[08:50] <cradek> lordkeiden: there is some information at defectivebydesign.org
[08:50] <rippawallet> pppoe_dude, was that to me lol. its crowded
[08:50] <rippawallet> XD
[08:50] <sivik> rippawallet, swap
[08:50] <lordkeiden> my wife want to start buying media from rhapsody, and she will soon want to get videos online too...
[08:51] <sivik> rippawallet, when you select the parition, swap is a type of parition
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> rippawallet, i think so
[08:51] <MonsieurBon> how can I run a script by pressing a key?
[08:51] <anv> but there is no command to free memory?
[08:51] <sivik> MonsieurBon, by setting a hot key
[08:51] <soundray> !xbindkeys | MonsieurBon
[08:51] <ubotu> monsieurbon: xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[08:51] <pig-wrangler> Lunar_Lamp: im acutally trying to ssh into work pc from home without messing with the firewall so i think the -R is what i need to use.
[08:51] <soundray> anv: you don't need to free memory
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> anv, free memory/
[08:51] <pppoe_dude> *?
[08:51] <MonsieurBon> soundray: just had an idea! :)
[08:52] <graft> yo - why does the gtk file dialog suck so much? is there any way to get it to stop autocompleting things automatically?
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> anv, cache is just there if the system has nothing better to do with the ram
[08:52] <witless> i downloaded a video with bittorrent, and it's a directory containing a *.sfv, *.nfo, and a number of *.r0? files.  how do i play these?
[08:52] <Lunar_Lamp> pig-wrangler, ok, I'm not hot on ssh tunnelling. I know that I have to port forward all my traffic so I can connect to IRC, and I use the -L option.
[08:52] <cefx-> witless: you extract them.  wrong place to ask something like that :P
[08:52] <assasukasse> hi everyone, i tried to upgrade to feisty and i broke the system, how can i reinstall feisty or edgy w/o losing my home partition and settings?
[08:52] <cefx-> .r0 == .rar files
[08:52] <Pici> !rar | witless
[08:52] <ubotu> witless: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:52] <sivik> witless, try looking on google for those file types
[08:52] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, do you have a separate /home partition?
[08:52] <witless> thanks
[08:52] <graft> and for god's sake, take care of wamba, witless!
[08:53] <assasukasse> pppoe_dude i have a separate drive for home :D
[08:53] <XiCillin> i can't get my traceroute to work, it hopes to my router then al i get its **. does this happen to anybody else?
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, then when you reinstall, tell the partitioner to leave that drive alone
[08:53] <eduino> http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8148/strangeerrorse0.jpg
[08:53] <eduino> help plzz
[08:53] <lordkeiden> cradek: thanks
[08:53] <witless> !info unrar-free
[08:53] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, and set it to be your home partition without formatting.
[08:53] <assasukasse> pppoe_dude do you know if feisty installer already works?
[08:53] <Pici> !ops
[08:53] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:53] <pecisk> What means Ubuntu migration with Click'n'Run? Does it replace Add/Remove and Synaptic?!
[08:53] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, oh sorry... feisty?
[08:53] <apokryphos> Pici: ?
[08:54] <Pici> apokryphos: eduino
[08:54] <steven_Office> !rar | debian
[08:54] <ubotu> debian: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:54] <Agrajag> apokryphos: eduino is trolling
[08:54] <Tatster> XiCillin:  what are you trying to traceroute to?
[08:54] <graft> does anyone know how to turn autocomplete off in the gtk file dialog?
[08:54] <steven_Office> !rar | fedora
[08:54] <ubotu> fedora: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, i would assume that gparted isn't that borked in feisty
[08:54] <maximoarmijo> ola
[08:54] <steven_Office> :)
[08:54] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, if its broken then it shouldn't just randomly overwrite a drive or anything
[08:54] <yellow> hey guys what's the command to see which kernel you currently have ?
[08:55] <cradek> yellow: uname -a
[08:55] <Lunar_Lamp> yellow, uname -a
[08:55] <yellow> thanks!
[08:55] <assasukasse> pppoe_dude thanks then i go for feisty
[08:55] <cradek> assasukasse: reinstalling without backing up your data is foolish no matter what you're installing
[08:55] <Lunar_Lamp> Actually, uname -r is more useful yellow
[08:55] <XiCillin> tatster, nod3.com
[08:56] <yellow> thanks Lunar_Lamp
[08:56] <assasukasse> cradek unfortunately i don't have a cd burner neither a spare hdd
[08:56] <XiCillin> and its weird, when i try to ping howard.k12.md.us, i get a returned ping from the loopback
[08:56] <assasukasse> btw, will it be faster if i format / as ext2 instead of ext3?
[08:57] <soundray> assasukasse: not substantially. fsck will cost you whatever time you save.
[08:57] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, formatting is usually a breeze
[08:58] <pppoe_dude> assasukasse, and ext3 is far safer than ext2 in general
[08:58] <Serge_K> ext2 is ext3 without journal. each on their own but I prefer xfs:)
[08:58] <Tatster> XiCillin:  is that howard.k12.ms.us an internal dns name?
[08:59] <graft> hello, how do i disable autocomplete on this gtk file dialog? is this possible, or must i suffer forever?
[08:59] <XiCillin> tatster, no
[08:59] <yellow> hey guys, how come update is telling me to update to an earlier version of the kernel ?
[08:59] <XiCillin> tatster, its a totally external site, and i'm at home with no weird firewall rules
[08:59] <yellow> @_@
[08:59] <pppoe_dude> graft, might wanna try fiddling with gconf-ed
[08:59] <assasukasse> so everyone suggest ext3? what about reiserfs
[09:00] <someothernick> !reiserfs
[09:00] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[09:00] <cartfree> soundray: can you point me to the grub workaround thing you mentioned earlier?
[09:00] <erUSUL> assasukasse: reiserfs is  fragile imnsho
[09:00] <LiENUS> is there an easy to use apache manager for ubuntu-server?
[09:00] <Jeeva> is there something the equivilant to window server DOMAINS in linux ?
[09:00] <soundray> cartfree: remind me please
[09:01] <slyfox> Can someone please help - Console login does not work and ctrl+alt+f1 does not work
[09:01] <Jeeva> LiENUS: get phpmyadmin
[09:01] <Jeeva> oh apache manager
[09:01] <LiENUS> something web based using ssl would be nice...
[09:01] <cartfree> soundray: blinking underscore at shutdown
[09:01] <Serge_K> reiser is good. I was using it for several years.. the problem is in his author.. and maintainers.. and also with dividing into 3,6 and 4.0 versions...
[09:01] <LiENUS> although console based would work..
[09:01] <graft> pppoe_dude: do you know where? or you just suspect it might be in there somewhere?
[09:02] <assasukasse> so i am confused now, i suppose the only options are ext3 and reiserfs, i usually choose reiserfs since the journal takes much less space..but if is fragile..
[09:02] <Tatster> xicillin: I can resolve and trace to a yoda.howard.k12.md.us 67.111.134.168
[09:02] <witless> ok, unrar-free is failing to extract the file.  any recommendations where i can go for help?
[09:03] <soundray> cartfree: right. You add a shutdown section to /boot/grub/menu.lst with 'halt' as the only command. When you want to shutdown, you enter 'echo y | sudo grub-reboot 3' (assuming that the shutdown section is the fourth one (no typo) in your menu.lst)
[09:03] <XiCillin> Tatster, thanks! that ip looks bout right
[09:03] <yommb> witles : is your file larger then 2gig ?
[09:03] <soundray> cartfree: that way it will reboot into the shutdown section and halt your machine.
[09:03] <XiCillin> anybody know of a way to or prog taht allows you to specify the source port for any given connection
[09:04] <Serge_K> witless: just install simply rar...
[09:04] <Tatster> xicillin: 50.0% of queries will be returned by 63.247.69.44 (ns1.hotbuilding.com)
[09:04] <Tatster> 
[09:04] <Tatster> nod3.com.	14400	IN	A	63.247.65.226
[09:04] <Tatster> 50.0% of queries will be returned by 63.247.69.45 (ns2.hotbuilding.com)
[09:04] <Tatster> 
[09:04] <Tatster> nod3.com.	14400	IN	A	63.247.65.226
[09:04] <Tatster> oops sorry.  I thought that would come out on 1 line
[09:04] <soundray> cartfree: am I making sense?
[09:04] <XiCillin> thanks tatster
[09:05] <Midazolam> is there a way to reinstall grub from the bootable cd?
[09:05] <JessicaFL> I've got a Fujitsu Lifebook C2210 with Ubuntu 6.10 and when I start up the touchpad mouse goes crazy (moves all over the screen when I touch it).  It only lasts about five seconds and then it is done.  I've had no success searching Google and want to fix this problem.  Can anyone tell me where I should start?  Commands, FAQs, etc.?  Thank you.
[09:06] <cartfree> soundray: ok i don't know grub at all but i'll try that a little later
[09:06] <cartfree> soundray: i had been shutting down using the GUI
[09:06] <soundray> Midazolam: yes. Follow the instructions for when windows wrecks grub:
[09:06] <pppoe_dude> graft, try searching for gtk, autocomplete, etc including in vlues and keys
[09:06] <soundray> !grub | Midazolam
[09:06] <ubotu> Midazolam: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:06] <cradek> JessicaFL: try changing the protocol to plain old "PS/2"
[09:07] <upd_> l
[09:07] <pppoe_dude> graft, it is probably somewhere in there
[09:07] <assasukasse> i read some documents and seems that XFS is the fastest and most reliable at now..anyone agrees?
[09:07] <cartfree> soundray: though since i was using the cd, i don't think i could change its config
[09:07] <soundray> cartfree: this workaround applies to completed installations.
[09:08] <JessicaFL> cradek: Can I change that without re-installing again?  The system > preferences menu doesn't have that option for me.
[09:08] <cradek> JessicaFL: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:08] <cradek> JessicaFL: then look for Protocol
[09:08] <cartfree> soundray: yea, np. i'll tinker with this later. thanks for your help.
[09:08] <Serge_K> assasukasse: xfs is really good. SGI Inc worked for 15 years on it.. Tho.. it has some odds.. but it works on my servers now OK
[09:09] <assasukasse> Serge_K since i am gonna squeeze the hell out of this machine, i will try it
[09:09] <cradek> JessicaFL: mine looks like -->   Option         "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
[09:09] <cradek> JessicaFL: change it to PS/2
[09:09] <JessicaFL> cradek: OK, thanks!
[09:10] <cradek> JessicaFL: there may be more than one Protocol line (one is for PS2 mouse, one is for USB mice)
[09:10] <JessicaFL> cradek: It was auto-dev before.  I changed it to PS/2.
[09:10] <JessicaFL> I'm going to reboot.  Thanks!
[09:10] <Lunar_Lamp> Using beryl, when I go to system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts and set up a shortcut to load up an application (e.g. calulator or home folder) it opens without the window decoration - that is, just a bare frame.  How do I fix this?
[09:10] <Serge_K> assasukasse: it deserves.. though.. you will cant make a root partitoin read-only to make acheck.. thats an odd... anything else's good
[09:11] <assasukasse> Serge_K why should i want to do that in my mom's computer :)
[09:12] <pig-wrangler> cradek: i dont see anything referring to port forwarding
[09:13] <doncabron> need help
[09:13] <Serge_K> assasukasse: hm.. times.. you have to make a chesk... like a checkdisk in windows... to eliminate disk format failures... it happens rarely but it does.. but dont worry. it happens about once in 2 years even without no UPS
[09:14] <naut> I've got two packages being kept back on apt-get upgrade this morning
[09:14] <naut> linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[09:14] <Lunar_Lamp> !edgykernel | naut
[09:14] <ubotu> naut: There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[09:14] <naut> apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't get them either
[09:14] <enry183> somebody know about Epia motherboard compatibility with ubuntu
[09:14] <naut> oh right
[09:14] <naut> that's ok then
[09:15] <inazad> How to have the same "boot type" like these of KNOPPIX with Tux in the top and the text in color ?
[09:15] <naut> I just thought it might be a problem with my config or something
[09:15] <Serge_K> assasukasse: but as a whole.. xfs is very, very stable system.. I had no problems with it...
[09:15] <sivik> how do i figure out if i have drivers for a serial-to-usb adaptor
[09:15] <acke_ubu> hey, i connect my usbdrive to ubuntu. the drive is found by ubuntu. but the size is wrong. it shows the drive as much smaller then it is. is there a way to get ubuntu to udate the drive size?
[09:15] <Mark__> ciao a tutti
[09:16] <Pici> acke_ubu: How much smaller is it?
[09:16] <Mark__>  la prima volta che entro qui..
[09:16] <enry183> Epia, Via  compatibilty? :-)
[09:16] <acke_ubu> its originally 4gb but shows as 1.3gb i believe
[09:16] <assasukasse> Serge_K so is just a fsck from time to time?
[09:16] <Pici> acke_ubu: hmm... I'm not sure
[09:16] <Mark__> hi!
[09:16] <mindstate> is there a way i can repartition my linux drive to add more gigs onto it
[09:16] <MonsieurBon> is there a shell command, that minimizes all open windows? aka, the thing that button in the lower left corner ist doing?
[09:16] <Mark__> are there any rooms?
[09:17] <inazad> How to have the same "boot type" like these of KNOPPIX with Tux in the top and the text in color ?
[09:17] <doncabron> hi
[09:17] <mindstate> brb
[09:17] <FaintofHeart> Does anyone here know anything about visual settings? I am having trouble properly configuring my chipset to get top performance.
[09:18] <Mark__> does anyone have problems to install ati radeon 9100 driver + beryl ?
[09:18] <stonarmusic> anyone help me with my ipod shuffle? other usb devices are detected and mount automagically but not the shuffle
[09:18] <FaintofHeart> Automagically :P
[09:19] <acke_ubu> pici, it says 13811 items, totalling 1.5 GB'
[09:19] <Serge_K> assasukasse: she does it herself, time to time.. but if you had un-sanctioned reboots... thats not all goes good... usually to ensure.. you have to re-mount root as a read-only and fsck... but xfs doesnt let it... you have to boot from outside.. like CD, say... and fsck... thats a flaw.. and as I guess.. its here stay
[09:19] <acke_ubu> and free space 49.9 MB
[09:20] <acke_ubu> the drive is really a sony ericsson w950 with a 4gb built in extra drive. it works as a usb drive when connected to a computer with a usb cable
[09:21] <Mark__> ehi..
[09:21] <stonarmusic> FaintofHeart - I got it work with Windows, by using a PC at school, but my home PC doesn't detect it
[09:21] <Mark__> how can i add the italian server?
[09:21] <Mark__> (to the xchat) ?
[09:21] <Mark__> it's /JOIN #ubuntu-it.
[09:21] <Mark__> how can i do?
[09:21] <medfly> Mark__, that would be a channel
[09:21] <assasukasse> Serge_K that's a problem for me, since mom won't be able to do that, and what if i am not around..
[09:22] <Mark__> how can i do medfly?
[09:22] <medfly> Mark__, and /join #channel would make you join channel :-)
[09:22] <acke_ubu> pici but the real free size is something above 2gb. at least
[09:22] <medfly> Mark__, just write "/join #whatever"
[09:22] <Mark__> ahh
[09:22] <Mark__> thank youu :D
[09:22] <Mark__> i'm the only one that use /JOIN #ubuntu-it.
[09:22] <Mark__> -.-
[09:23] <Mark__> tecnoboy ,are you italian ?
[09:23] <eyalw> can i run Flash MX with Wine ?
[09:23] <pig-wrangler> any know alittle something about using ssh?
[09:23] <pig-wrangler> anyone*
[09:23] <sivik> eyalw: try crossover office
[09:23] <sivik> pig-wrangler, i do
[09:23] <sivik> pig-wrangler, what are you trying to do?
[09:23] <Pici> acke_ubu: Check dmesg when you plug it in, see what it says the size is
[09:23] <medfly> eyalw, you can use other things instead
[09:23] <Mark__> sivik ,crossover is not free...isn't it ?
[09:23] <medfly> eyalw, that would be alot better :)
[09:24] <sivik> Mark__, thats what torrents are for
[09:24] <QaDeS> hiyas. how do i install custom TTF fonts in gnome?
[09:24] <pbureau> if you u se xchat click on xchat menu, network list, select irc.ubuntu.com click on edit and on the line for channel you probably have #ubuntu make it #ubuntu,#ubuntu-it and save it, this will make it open both on connection
[09:24] <Mark__> ahah sivik...really!! :D
[09:24] <pig-wrangler> sivik: im trying to be able to ssh into my work box from home without messing with the firewall ports at work.
[09:24] <sivik> pig-wrangler, ok, use nmap to find an open port and then change the sshd_config to look at that port
[09:24] <mcphail> sivik: don't encourage software piracy in the channel
[09:25] <Mark__> thank you pbureau
[09:25] <sivik> mcphail, sorry, didn't know that was encouraging it
[09:25] <pig-wrangler> sivik: no no i dont want to forward ports on the firewall at work
[09:25] <pig-wrangler> sivik: i was looking at this http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1816
[09:25] <pbureau> Mark__,  your welcome  (prego?)
[09:25] <sivik> pig-wrangler, you don't, just find an open port or piggy back ssh over http or ftp
[09:25] <assasukasse> Mark__ u are free to try cxoffice for 30 days
[09:25] <Pici> acke_ubu: you should see something like "SCSI device sda: 3940352 512-byte hdwr sectors (2017 MB)"
[09:25] <assasukasse> try if it works first
[09:25] <lee___> has anyone had any luck installing fglrx drivers in feisty?
[09:25] <sivik> pig-wrangler, can i chat with you in pm
[09:26] <sivik> lee___, go to ubuntu+1 for feisty
[09:26] <acke_ubu> pici what would i write to see that?
[09:26] <lee___> sivik: cheers!
[09:26] <Mark__> pbureau : grazie (thanks)
[09:26] <eyalw> medfly: like what?
[09:26] <acke_ubu> pici did i miss something you wrote?
[09:26] <Pici> acke_ubu: open a terminal, put the usb stick in then type dmesg
[09:26] <medfly> eyalw, sudo apt-cache search ftp
[09:26] <pbureau> Mark__,  Ah yes.... cool
[09:26] <sivik> pig-wrangler, pm
[09:26] <eyalw> sivik: whats crossover office?
[09:27] <acke_ubu> pici  SCSI device sdb: 8026112 512-byte hdwr sectors (4109 MB)
[09:27] <medfly> or i got the wrong thing? :)
[09:27] <sivik> eyalw: its a program, google it
[09:27] <pig-wrangler> im not registered
[09:27] <LiENUS> eyalw,  a commercial wine alternative
[09:27] <LiENUS> based on wine
[09:27] <LiENUS> just commercially supported
[09:27] <sivik> yes
[09:27] <acke_ubu> pici so its nautilus showing me wrong numbers
[09:27] <eyalw> LiENUS: is it free?
[09:27] <LiENUS> no
[09:27] <LiENUS> theres a free demo tho
[09:28] <Pici> acke_ubu: Sounds like it, what do you get as the size if you type df -h in a terminal?
[09:28] <Serge_K> assasukasse: oh think you dont bother:).. xfs is really stable system.. and even with no UPS... it works perfectly for me here on my home computer... reiser worked good too, but I was just dissappointed with that autors\ onder court, then versions .. then Linux discarded to adopt ver. 4 all that storey. ext2 is old and fsck taking ages.. ext3 isnt more than a curtain... as for myself..xfs is well enough
[09:28] <acke_ubu> pici is there a shortcut to get a terminal up in ubuntu? :P sry i think i saw one guy do that once. didnt catch the shortcut though
[09:29] <eyalw> cant i run Flash MX with Wine ?
[09:29] <Pici> acke_ubu: in gnome its under accessories in the menu
[09:29] <LiENUS> eyalw, why not try?
[09:30] <pbureau> acke_ubu, in gnome, right click on it, and you can copy to desktop/toolbar
[09:30] <eyalw> LiENUS: i'm stuck in the installation. not sure if its not letting me continue bacuase of a bad serial or just not working
[09:30] <acke_ubu> pici '/dev/sdb1  3.8G  3.8G   50M  99% /media/Acke'
[09:30] <acke_ubu> pbureau: i meant more like a keyboard shortcut
[09:30] <padlefot> hi,could someone help me make dualscreen work in kubuntu? i use a dvi adapter
[09:30] <Pici> acke_ubu: It looks like you only have 50mb free, but otherwise its recognizing it as the correct size
[09:31] <pbureau> acke_ubu, system-preferences- keyboard shortcuts
[09:31] <Pici> acke_ubu: The totalling 1.5 gb is probably just in the root folder of the directory, not including any items in subfolders
[09:31] <padlefot> i use a dvi adapter for my main monitor, and the normal vga for my second monitor
[09:31] <padlefot> how do i make dualscreen work?
[09:31] <stonarmusic> it works fine with XP, but ubuntu doesn't even 'see' it
[09:32] <acke_ubu> pici i see.
[09:32] <Pici> acke_ubu: If you have any more issues, you may need to ask someone else.  I'm leaving my computer now, goodluck!
[09:32] <xerophyte_> is this domain name good for book reviews site www.bookcynic.com ? i have huge problem finding non bias reviews so i wanna make site for it
[09:32] <acke_ubu> pici thanks
[09:32] <noodles12> what is the command to find what versino of dbus i have?
[09:32] <padlefot> dualscreen help please
[09:32] <acke_ubu> pici wait a sek
[09:33] <stonarmusic> lsusb - doesn't see it, only my usb mouse
[09:33] <thekidrio> ugh, my install fails when i have my widescreen plugged in heh
[09:33] <thekidrio> but not when i have the regular aspect ratio lcd in
[09:33] <acke_ubu> pici the phone shows me 1.312 / 3.875 is in use... so its not that syncd
[09:34] <yommb> !realtime-lsm
[09:34] <ubotu> realtime-lsm: Scripts for handling the realtime Linux security module. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-6 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 72 kB
[09:35] <Roey> hi
[09:35] <steven_Office> ubotu, go home
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about go home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <thekidrio> !widescreen
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <thekidrio> !monitor
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <thekidrio> anyone know anything about instal problems with a widescreen?
[09:36] <thekidrio> it breaks launching x
[09:37] <eyeZed> quick question for anyone. i want to install ubuntu on a drive that already has windows... i want to wipe out the drive and have ubuntu partition the drive in the IDEAL way it would want it. how can i do that?
[09:37] <Roey> I've got a few questions about your installer for Edgy Eft.  (1) how do I install jed?  It doesn't seem to appear in the default repositories.  (2) how do I change root's password?  I tried "sudo bash" and then "chpasswd", but chpassword just sits there.   Can someone help?
[09:37] <thekidrio> ideal?
[09:37] <thekidrio> not really ideal eyezed
[09:37] <thekidrio> but it will work well
[09:37] <thekidrio> roey, sudo passwd root
[09:37] <eyeZed> i dont know what you mean
[09:37] <PhoenixP3K> eyeZed, just do regular install that's when it wipes out the old hdd
[09:37] <pbureau> Roey, you using gnome ?
[09:37] <thekidrio> eyezed yeah it will wipe windows and install the file system for you
[09:38] <eyeZed> yea but its asking me to partition
[09:38] <thekidrio> no, there is a guided partition
[09:38] <Roey> thekidrio:  thanks
[09:38] <naer_dinsul> Hello all.  I did a kernel upgrade today through the edgy security updates, and now many of my peripherals don't work.  This includes USB and sound.  I think something in Synaptic is broken because there are three other linux kernel packages, (linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic, and linux-restricted-modules-generic) that won't update...  Does anything know about this?
[09:38] <thekidrio> what version are you installing btw?
[09:38] <eyeZed> 610
[09:38] <pbureau> Roey, in gnome - system-admin-users, select user root and edit, change password there.
[09:38] <Roey> pbureau:  kde here.
[09:38] <thekidrio> yeah there is a guided one, just pick the hard drive and click next
[09:38] <bruenig> !rootsudo | Roey
[09:38] <ubotu> Roey: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:38] <thekidrio> tell it to erase entire disk
[09:38] <PhoenixP3K> you need to select the hard drive and tell it to use it all.
[09:38] <ViPER^-> How do i stop an software raid5? i tried mdadm --stop /dev/md0 but it says its active and cant stop it and i dont know whats using the array.
[09:38] <eyeZed> hmm okay.
[09:38] <Roey> uboto, I know about sudo, I've been using it for a long time now :)
[09:38] <eyeZed> thanks everyone
[09:38] <Roey> thnaks
[09:38] <thekidrio> lemme find a screen shop eyezed
[09:39] <thekidrio> shot
[09:39] <eyeZed> okay
[09:40] <stonarmusic> anyone wanna buy a new 1st gen ipod shuffle?
[09:41] <LiENUS> stonarmusic,  il'l give you 10$
[09:41] <bruenig> !thanks | Roey
[09:41] <ubotu> Roey: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:42] <PhoenixP3K> eyeZed, here is what you need: http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pid=743&fullsize=1
[09:42] <mark07> hey guys, I have a problem with a si raid card - ubuntu can't see a raid that I have created
[09:42] <PhoenixP3K> you need to pick Erase Entire disk
[09:42] <Roey> ubotu:  you're a nice bot though
[09:42] <Roey> thanks anyway
[09:42] <eyeZed> hmmm okay ty PhoenixP3K
[09:43] <Roey> bruenig:  :)
[09:43] <PhoenixP3K> no prob.
[09:43] <dyrne> hey guys im wanting to use vpnc but im not sure how to set it up with 'group authentication' the way you would check in the cisco client
[09:43] <glepoli> oi
[09:43] <thekidrio> http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basicubuntu.shtml
[09:43] <glepoli> oi
[09:43] <thekidrio> there yas go eyezed
[09:43] <thekidrio> oi
[09:44] <glepoli> algum do Brasik?
[09:44] <glepoli> *Brasil
[09:44] <habtool> If i do a dist-upgrade, why would it hold these packages back? linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:44] <graft> !pt
[09:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:44] <mark07> anyone have and idea why ubuntu can't see my raid 1?
[09:45] <naer_dinsul> habtool: I'm having the same problem.
[09:45] <glepoli> ubotu: no consigo entrar no #ubuntu-br, porque me banira, e eu cometi o erro por no saber as regras do canal
[09:45] <naer_dinsul> habtool: But some of my peripherals have quit working as well after I rebooted...
[09:45] <glepoli> algum do Brasil?
[09:47] <obstfliege> does someone use a full system encrypion?
[09:47] <habtool> naer_dinsul thanks, sounds like some bugs in the system :)
[09:48] <band-aid111888> who can help me with a keyboard shortcut problem
[09:48] <robbiev> I have an ati card with dual vga-out. The fglrx drivers are terribly buggy, how can I do dual monitor with xinerama and the opensource radeon driver?
[09:49] <stonarmusic> anyone know why my ipod shuffle doesn't get detected, but other usb flash drives do get detected?
[09:49] <xratex> need help with sphinx, anyone?
[09:49] <d1gital> i was just looking in to why my laptop is running so slowly, and i found that the problem is that my swap pertition is not getting mounted on startup. how do i fix this?
[09:49] <n0mer> hello all from Ukraine
[09:49] <n0mer> just installed Ubunty 6.10
[09:49] <band-aid111888> grats
[09:49] <NandoFlorestan> help
[09:49] <n0mer> and have a problem: ubunty cannot recognize my GENERIC PS/2 keyboard
[09:49] <Meekus> ok.. I am stumped.  I am on a machine as root. I visudo and sudoers looks correct with the people I want having correct sudo rights.  But - when I cat /etc/sudoers, I dont an old sudoers file.. not what I edited with visudo.  Any ideas?
[09:50] <n0mer> installed from 6.10 LiveCD via mouse only
[09:50] <n0mer> and now Keyboard does not work at all
[09:50] <Meekus> rather.. I get an old version of sudoers file.. not what I edited with visudo
[09:50] <band-aid111888> can you guys see this? I'm not sure if i'm logged in correctly
[09:50] <Meekus> band-aid: I can see you
[09:51] <band-aid111888> ok
[09:51] <d1gital> sry for asking twice but this is very frustrating...   i was just looking in to why my laptop is running so slowly, and i found that the problem is that my swap pertition is not getting mounted on startup. how do i fix this?
[09:51] <xratex> sphinx anyone?
[09:51] <n0mer> guys, please help: fresh-installed Ubunty 6.10 does not recognize PS/2 keyboard
[09:51] <Midazolam> g
[09:51] <haakuturi> d1gital - I had a post on this in the forums, if you look for a user Maelgwyn and look over my posts :)
[09:51] <DraxNS> d1gital, dev/hda2
[09:51] <DraxNS>  none            swap    sw              0
[09:52] <thaumiel> i got a problem with usb hdd that does not finction. i get message scsi: Device Offlined - not ready after error recovery.
[09:52] <Hennin1> you're not alone.. keyboard problem here too ; caps lock does not work and at-sign (alpha) does not work. usb keyboard.
[09:52] <DraxNS> if /dev/hda2 is where swap lays
[09:52] <thaumiel> function even
[09:52] <Midazolam> hello, i installed ubuntu , but grub doesnt load: "error 5
[09:52] <xratex> bleh
[09:52] <kritical> d1gital, everything that gets mounted upon startup goes in /etc/fstab ... you can edit this file using `sudo gedit /etc/fstab` ... can you paste the output into http://pastebin.ca please
[09:52] <padlefot> i really need help setting up dualscreen
[09:52] <padlefot> please someone
[09:52] <n0mer> Hennin1: my keyboard does not function at all!
[09:52] <DraxNS> and there is another 0 at the end
[09:52] <band-aid111888> anyone know why my keyboard shortcut for adjust volume doesn't?
[09:52] <kritical> padlefot, nvidia or ati?
[09:52] <Midazolam> i have a nvraid array, but use LVM
[09:52] <band-aid111888> It shows the bar and everything
[09:52] <padlefot> kritical: nvidia, with vga and dvi->vga adapter
[09:53] <n0mer> Hennin1: installed it via LiveCD, entered hostname and login/pass via mouse copy-paste from HTML help :)
[09:53] <Hennin1> hehe, I'm not sure I can help you
[09:53] <n0mer> ok
[09:53] <Hennin1> would if i could
[09:53] <Linkmasta23> oh is someone trying to learn HTML?
[09:53] <n0mer> me too :)
[09:53] <n0mer> Linkmasta23: i can help you with html :)
[09:53] <Zaggynl> this edgy installer is funny, I only see a orangy bar going right/left
[09:53] <padlefot> kritical ? :)
[09:53] <Zaggynl> no clue what's happening
[09:54] <Zaggynl> or how far it is
[09:54] <kritical> padlefot, you're looking for twinview
[09:54] <Linkmasta23> i know alot of HTML i just was trying to help someone if they needed it
[09:54] <d1gital> kritical:  http://pastebin.ca/345775
[09:54] <Hennin1> i've searched all over the place about localization problems, but i cannot find a solution that works
[09:54] <kritical> padlefot, google 'ubuntu nvidia twinview'
[09:54] <Zaggynl> is this an error? 'Calling IN 0x15 (F000:F859)'
[09:54] <Linkmasta23> thats why i said is someone trying to learn html
[09:55] <n0mer> Linkmasta23: ok
[09:55] <kritical> padlefot, there are other ways to do it, but that's the most common
[09:55] <n0mer> someone trying to learn Java EE programming? :)
[09:55] <padlefot> kritical: thanx, ill try that
[09:55] <kritical> d1gital, has it started going slow since you upgraded?
[09:55] <livingdaylight> gparted doesn't come in edgy by default?
[09:56] <Hennin1> what kind of java EE?
[09:56] <haakuturi> easy enough to install gparted though
[09:56] <n0mer> Hennin1: Struts, JBoss/EJB
[09:56] <hjmills> #sourcemage
[09:56] <n0mer> Hennin1: MySQL :)
[09:56] <hjmills> oops - sorry all
[09:56] <Midazolam> does anyone know what "error 5" means while grub is loading? and how i can make grub work?
[09:56] <Linkmasta23> what are some cool opensource programs that come with this?
[09:56] <d1gital> kritical: i'm not sure if that's exactly when it happened, but i'm pretty sure it was then or sometime after
[09:56] <Hennin1> EJB 3?
[09:56] <kritical> d1gital, is you type `sudo mount` it should show you what you currently have mounted.. can you pastebin.ca the output please?
[09:56] <n0mer> Hennin1: no..just 2.1
[09:56] <haakuturi> grub error 5 - http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=%2BGrub+%22Error+5%22&btnG=Search&meta=
[09:57] <jzlP> Hi guys... I installed ubuntu and I would like to try and run it as a server... I don't need GNOME to come up .. how do I go about disabling that?
[09:57] <n0mer> Hennin1: right now our project's moving to Spring - this is awesome
[09:57] <Hennin1> what IDE are you using?
[09:57] <BigToe> I cannot figure out how I can get my phone to send me a file via OBEX. I opened the "Bluetooth OBEX client" and could send files, but cannot recieve them... how can I make it work?
[09:57] <band-aid111888> Midazolam: I think thats the error it throws when you've changed your partitions somehow
[09:57] <n0mer> Hennin1: i'm using IntelliJ IDEA, community license
[09:57] <haakuturi> jzlP easiest way would be to do a server install
[09:57] <d1gital> kritical: http://pastebin.ca/345780
[09:57] <haakuturi> d/load the server CD
[09:57] <n0mer> Hennin1: granted for our local Java User Group
[09:57] <Midazolam> hmmm :( is there a way to check my harddisc with ubuntu live!?
[09:58] <eyalw> hi, just wondering, if im planning on building a flash chatting system, you think sampling the server for new messages every few seconds will be a good way for doing so, or you got a different way?
[09:58] <band-aid111888> midazolam: of course nothing is lost
[09:58] <jzlP> yeah, I did that... but was having issues. :|
[09:58] <n0mer> Hennin1: what is your IDE?
[09:58] <band-aid111888> midazolam what you should do
[09:58] <mwe> Midazolam: fcsk
[09:58] <Hennin1> eclipse
[09:58] <n0mer> Hennin1: Eclipse/NetBeans?
[09:58] <n0mer> ok
[09:58] <Midazolam> k
[09:58] <jzlP> haakuturi, I would like to just keep the install with the config that I currently have.  I have samba, apache and all up like I need it
[09:58] <AmaroqWolf> I reinstalled firefox2 because I think that I accidentally deleted an important file, which was causing it to freeze every so often when I tried to load/reload a youtube page. But now that I've done so, downloads from youtube seem to be very slow... Anyway I can figure out the problem and fix it?
[09:58] <n0mer> Hennin1: i started to work with eclipse, but our project was on JDK 1.4, so i was frustrated with it's slowness
[09:59] <n0mer> Hennin1: for now (JDK 1.6 + Eclipse 3.2) maybe Eclipse looks good
[09:59] <andreas_> Thylio
[09:59] <haakuturi> jzlP I installed fluxbox and used that as my main GUI
[09:59] <jzlP> haakuturi, I am very new to *nix...  what is that.. just a window manager?
[09:59] <haakuturi> jzlP yeah it is
[09:59] <eyalw> hi, just wondering, if im planning on building a flash chatting system, you think sampling the server for new messages every few seconds will be a good way for doing so, or you got a different way?
[09:59] <band-aid111888> midazolam: is put in the install disk, go though the process, and manually edit partiton table. Set up your partitions like you have them and MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT FORMAT. The installer will throw errors, continue through them. This will reconfigure grub and it should work
[09:59] <kritical> AmaroqWolf, youtube uses flash... you should check what version of flash you're running.. I think 9 is the latest... type `about:plugins` into your web browser
[10:00] <AmaroqWolf> It is 9, I believe. I reinstalled flashplugin-nonfree afterwards.
[10:00] <Midazolam> k thanks ill try that
[10:00] <jzlP> haakuturi, I already have the default "ubuntu-desktop" installed... :/
[10:00] <n0mer> heikki: kritical: guys, do you know the reason why generic PS/2 keyboard is not working under 6.10 ?
[10:00] <kritical> AmaroqWolf, you should check.. by default it's version 7 I think
[10:00] <AmaroqWolf> I just checked now, I do have 9 on it.
[10:01] <Hennin1> n0mer, open a private channel
[10:01] <n0mer> ok
[10:01] <^aciDbURn^> Lunar_Lamp thanks for you help again. You know what? I found my dapper drake cd :-D Omg just embarrasing, really.
[10:01] <jzlP> Does anyone know if they have fixed the p965 chip issues (p5b-e specifically)?  I know that the jmicron chips were causing issues.
[10:01] <kritical> eyalw, there is a better way to do it using persistent connections.. this is the wrong channel for that though I think.. that's more web development
[10:01] <^aciDbURn^> bye all good night
[10:01] <arke> hi, im back :)
[10:02] <arke> kubuntu liveCD is running, and as expected, it didnt detect my wlan card
[10:02] <haakuturi> jzlP all good, just open Synaptic
[10:02] <arke> what is the standard procedure to go from here?
[10:02] <arke> (btw, its a intel bg2200)
[10:02] <kritical> d1gital, I'm looking at that mount output now
[10:02] <Midazolam> mwe: the command fcsk doesnt work!
[10:02] <haakuturi> jzlP and select fluxbox
[10:02] <mwe> Midazolam: doesn't work. how doesn't it work?
[10:02] <d1gital> !fsck | Midazolam
[10:02] <ubotu> Midazolam: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[10:03] <jzlP> haakuturi, ok.. what is the difference
[10:03] <haakuturi> difference...?
[10:03] <haakuturi> between Fluxbox & GNOME?
[10:03] <haakuturi> Fluxbox is much lighter
[10:03] <jzlP> yeah..ahh Ok looking at the website now
[10:03] <mwe> fluxbox rocks
[10:03] <haakuturi> takes a bit to learn, so join #fluxbox, and check out http://fluxbuntu.org
[10:03] <noire> is anyone else having issues using 'dist-upgrade'on i386 Dapper installations, both server and desktop?
[10:03] <haakuturi> fluxbox does rock :D
[10:03] <vega> Hello.
[10:04] <jzlP> haakuturi, to much to learn for a nix newb?
[10:04] <vega> How do I install a joystick?
[10:04] <haakuturi> I don't think so... I'm still relatively new to *nix
[10:04] <kritical> d1gital, type `top` in console.. look for a line that says 'Mem:  blah blah blah' ... underneath that does it say 'Swap: blah blah blah'?... you should study this output.. it will contain clues about why it's going slow
[10:04] <kritical> mwe, haakuturi... beryl rocks :P
[10:04] <vega> I have the install disk but it is for windows.
[10:04] <AmaroqWolf> which flash would you reccomment, flashplugin-nonfree, or adobe's flash9?
[10:04] <mwe> jzlP: fluxbox is easy. don't expect a lot of bells and whistles, though.
[10:04] <AmaroqWolf> *recommend
[10:05] <haakuturi> lol yeah but on my PC, there's no chance of Beryl running
[10:05] <kritical> AmaroqWolf, they're both the same I think
[10:05] <d1gital> kritical:  Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   225316k cached
[10:05] <AmaroqWolf> Oh, okay
[10:05] <kritical> d1gital, okay that's the problem =) ... let me study those pastebins.. hold on
[10:05] <jzlP> haakuturi, mwe, that does look sexy
[10:05] <AmaroqWolf> kritical, yes they do look the same
[10:05] <dafrog> i'm using the current version of ubuntu server lts.. i'm trying to install ocs next gen inventory. perl is giving me a hard time. anyone here had to deal with that?
[10:06] <Hennin1> keyboard problems anyone?
[10:06] <kritical> d1gital, are you suppose to have two partitions mounted as NTFS?
[10:06] <noire> All: For those upgrading kernels see the following link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[10:06] <vega> How can I install a joystick, or if it is already installed how do I check to make sure it is working properly?
[10:06] <d1gital> kritical: yeah, one for windows one for data
[10:06] <mfox> I have a question.. I recently installed Ubuntu but now when I try to ./configure my eggdrop, I get error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:06] <mfox> Anyone have a clue?
[10:07] <eyalw> kritical: you know of a channel suitable for this?
[10:07] <mwe> mfmf: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:07] <mwe> mfox: ^^
[10:07] <kritical> join #flash
[10:07] <kritical> err
[10:07] <kritical> sorry... :S
[10:07] <mfox> lol.. same problem eh?  Thank you mwe :)
[10:08] <Hennin1> n0mer; not sure I understood.. don't you see me writing in private channel?
[10:08] <vega> How can I install a joystick, or if it is already installed how do I check to make sure it is working properly?
[10:08] <dafrog> Checking for Compress::Zlib PERL module
[10:08] <dafrog> Can't locate Compress/Raw/Zlib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7/Compress/Zlib.pm line 12.
[10:08] <dafrog> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7/Compress/Zlib.pm line 12
[10:08] <dafrog> any idea how i should fix that?
[10:08] <dafrog> apt-get install perl says perl is already up to date
[10:08] <haakuturi> what does line 12 of /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7/Compress/Zlib.pm say?
[10:09] <mwe> dafrog: install libcompress-zlib-perl maybe
[10:09] <dafrog> Compilation failed in require.
[10:09] <dafrog> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
[10:09] <vega> Nevermind I found it.
[10:09] <mwe> dafrog: install libcompress-zlib-perl maybe
[10:09] <mfox> that fixed the problem mwe, thank you
[10:09] <n0mer> Hennin1: no, private channel is empty
[10:09] <mwe> mfox: yw
[10:09] <AmaroqWolf> kritical, my problem was that I accidentally deleted everything on my computer that had the string "file.so" in it's filename.
[10:09] <dafrog> mwe: libcompress-zlib-perl is already the newest version.
[10:09] <dafrog> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[10:10] <mfox> apt-get install tcl8.4 for tcl, correct?
[10:10] <kritical> AmaroqWolf, the flahs plugin goes two places.. either in your home directory.. or in a default directory for two users...
[10:10] <mwe> dafrog: dunno then
[10:10] <Hennin1> n0mer; i wrote back, but it does not work somehow. not sure why.
[10:10] <kritical> AmaroqWolf, I'm not too sure about your problem though, if about:plugins says it's version 9.. then that's okay
[10:10] <mwe> mfox: yeah
[10:10] <mfox> Okay for some reason this config script still doesnt recognise it though.
[10:10] <glundberg> anyone else have a problem rebooting in Edgy?
[10:10] <mfox>  Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[10:11] <mfox> even after install
[10:11] <AmaroqWolf> kritical, yes that part is okay. I tried reinstalling it though because ever since my "delete all file.so" mistake, firefox has had the tendancy to freaze on me.
[10:11] <shafire> hello can i use aptitude directly with ubuntu server?
[10:11] <mwe> mfox: but if you type tcl in a terminal it's found?
[10:11] <Mysta_> shafire, yes type sudo aptitude from CLI
[10:11] <shafire> okay do i need to do something?
[10:11] <mfox> bash: tcl: command not found
[10:11] <_Hug[o] _> Mysta_, What terminal do you use?
[10:11] <XiCillin> does anybody here know nmap, or ever used the --ttl option?
[10:11] <mwe> mfox: dpkg -l|grep tcl
[10:12] <Mysta_> _Hug[o] _, bash
[10:12] <_Hug[o] _> Mysta_, gnome terminal?
[10:12] <mfox> mwe: ii  tcl8.4                                     8.4.12-1.1                           Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-t
[10:12] <_Hug[o] _> I didn't ask what shell
[10:12] <Mysta_> shafire, are you trying to install something?
[10:12] <dafrog> time to dump ubuntu then and use something that has functioning perl
[10:12] <Mysta_> _Hug[o] _, i dont use a gui
[10:12] <haakuturi> who was having problems with swap?
[10:12] <kritical> okay d1gital... ready to fix this?
[10:12] <marcos__> opa
[10:12] <d1gital> kritical: yep
[10:13] <mwe> mfox: hmm
[10:13] <marcos__> exit
[10:13] <kritical> d1gital, `sudo mkswap /dev/hda4`
[10:13] <shafire> Mysta_: yes
[10:13] <marcos__> somebody of brazil?
[10:13] <jzlP> haakuturi, downloading fluxbox now
[10:13] <Mysta_> _Hug[o] _, why do u ask?
[10:13] <shafire> but it want to remove my half system
[10:13] <haakuturi> jzlP awesome :)
[10:13] <marcos__> Tem algum do Brasil?
[10:13] <_Hug[o] _> Mysta_, Out of interest
[10:13] <kritical> d1gital, `sudo swapon /dev/hda4` Record the output of UUID
[10:13] <mfox> mwe:  Should I just try to remove it w/apt and install from source?
[10:13] <haakuturi> jzlP when you first use it, it'll be a little bit scary... Right-Click to get a menu
[10:13] <jzlP> haakuturi, where would I change that to my default manager?
[10:13] <Mysta_> shafire, ok so you can type aptitude search "PACKAGE NAME" and it'll return a list of possible packages to install
[10:13] <mwe> mfox: tcl <tab> <tab> ?
[10:14] <mfox> mwe: Hmm?
[10:14] <d1gital> kritical:  UUID=549de216-9f12-4078-ae0f-616f844c4478
[10:14] <kritical> d1gital, Use the UUID -> and put into /etc/fstab
[10:14] <mfox> aaahh.
[10:14] <mfox> tclsh     tclsh8.4
[10:14] <haakuturi> jzlP y'know when you login to Ubuntu? You need to click 'sessions' then select Fluxbox
[10:14] <Mysta_> shafire, or if you know the name aptitude install "PACKAGE NAME', dont include quotes
[10:14] <mwe> mfox: I think it's tclsh though, not tcl.
[10:14] <Hennin1> n0mer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/54836
[10:14] <shafire> Mysta_: yeah
[10:14] <kritical> d1gital, line 12
[10:14] <jzlP> ahh .. ok
[10:14] <jzlP> brb
[10:14] <haakuturi> jzlP and then it'll ask if you want that to be your default WM
[10:14] <shafire> Mysta_: when i tipp aptitude install ndiswrapper
[10:14] <mfox> mwe:  Yeah..it saw tclsh and tclsh8.4
[10:14] <shafire> it want to remove my half system!
[10:14] <n0mer> Hennin1: thanks, i''l give it a try
[10:14] <padlefot> kritical: thanx alot mate, it worked out great
[10:15] <mwe> mfox: your source code sounds broken then
[10:15] <mfox> from apt?
[10:15] <d1gital> kritical: i am replacing the old uuid?
[10:15] <kritical> padlefot, no problem =)
[10:15] <jzlP> haakuturi, will I still be able to run all my installed apps.. (xchat.. etc)
[10:15] <mfox> I used apt-get install tcl8.4  :p
[10:15] <kritical> d1gital, yes
[10:15] <haakuturi> jzlP yup
[10:15] <mfox> mwe:  Its cool, ill try it from src :)
[10:15] <Mysta_> !ndis | shafire
[10:15] <ubotu> shafire: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:15] <haakuturi> jzlP 'cause I am :)
[10:15] <mwe> mfox: or install tcl8.4-dev maybe
[10:15] <jzlP> haakuturi, brb, thanks man
[10:15] <mwe> mfox: perhaps the program needs the headers
[10:15] <shafire> Mysta_: but all packages i want to install
[10:15] <ahave> just finished an ubuntu install... trying to install applications and could use some help
[10:15] <shafire> it will remove my half system
[10:15] <mfox> mwe:  You know which headers?
[10:16] <shafire> Mysta_: it will remove my half system
[10:16] <shafire> Mysta_: so i need to set autoflag?
[10:16] <kritical> d1gital, there's more to do, let me know when you've done that
[10:16] <mwe> mfox: tcl8.4-dev
[10:16] <d1gital> kritical: k, did that
[10:16] <Mysta_> shafire, im not sure I understand whats wrong
[10:16] <ck42> wanting to install crossover office - not seeing the binary listed in my repos.  Is this a time where I should just use the .deb install package they supply?
[10:16] <kritical> d1gital, `sudo gedit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume` <-- replace the UUID there too
[10:17] <shafire> Mysta_: mhm
[10:17] <kritical> ck42, crossover office is a commercial product and not available on the repos.. so if you have a deb then yes use that
[10:17] <d1gital> kritical:   this is the entire contents of that file:   RESUME=
[10:17] <mfox> mwe:  Thanks again for the help.. I just downloaded it from source and made it that way.. maybe its the package with apt
[10:18] <kritical> d1gital, it should look like `RESUME=UUID=<UUID goes here>`
[10:18] <mfox> I dont know, but thanks again :)
[10:18] <ahave> what do i need to look for & install as far as loading a gcc compiler?
[10:18] <bensode> I've been trying to install 6.10 from two different downloads that are apparently live CDs.  Is there anyway to install from livecd?
[10:18] <kritical> ahave, `apt-get install gcc` ?
[10:18] <haakuturi> click on the Install button on the desktop
[10:18] <m_billybob> aptitude install gcc . . .
[10:18] <limetang> bensode, yes.
[10:19] <ck42> kritical: Had to ask since it actually list the package option in Portage (my Gentoo box).  In that case, it simply ask you to take the file you own and copy it to an installation directory.  Wasn't sure if apt-get worked similarly or not.
[10:19] <d1gital> kritical: ok done with that.
[10:19] <DraxNS> I was away a bit... but noone replied... is there a way to force loading of fglrx driver on boot time?
[10:19] <kritical> ck42, `sudo dpkg -i blah.deb`
[10:19] <m_billybob> ahave: if ever in doubt, use aptitude install <package> aptitude WILL take care of all depends.
[10:20] <AlexC_> Hey
[10:20] <kritical> d1gital, `update-initramfs -u`
[10:20] <m_billybob> apt-get install <package> wont nessisaily  all_the_time
[10:20] <patbam> hi, can anyone recommend a tool that will let me set alarms? for instance, i would like to have some reminder pop up that tells me to go get my laundry, hehe
[10:20] <ck42> kritical: LOL.....ack!  only been working with the apt-get frontend for a couple days and already getting spoiled.  Should've known this.  Sorry.
[10:20] <kritical> d1gital, after that then type `sudo swapon -s`
[10:21] <AlexC_> my mate is trying to install Beryl - but when he loads the XGL Session from GDM - it says /usr/local/bin/startxgl.shnot found - but it is
[10:21] <DraxNS> !ubotu fglrx
[10:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:21] <d1gital> kritical: permission denied on that first one... do i need to sudo it too?
[10:21] <ademan> !w32codecs
[10:21] <kritical> ck42, haha don't worry, after awhile you'll love apt-get
[10:21] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:21] <kritical> d1gital, yep, sorry, sudo that
[10:21] <DraxNS> bah... that doesn't work..
[10:21] <Cyrus25801> is there a program like steganos for xp to delete file permanently and delete Internet traces
[10:21] <ahave> m_billybob, it asks me if i am root. how can i log in as root or provide password?
[10:22] <kritical> d1gital, `sudo swapon -s` should give you information about /dev/hda4 correct?
[10:22] <m_billybob> ahave: either sudo <command> or sudo -s first
[10:22] <bensode> so we are forced to install through the gui now with 6.10?
[10:22] <haakuturi> yup
[10:22] <ck42> kritical: already enjoying its binary goodness.  next best thing next to portage (/me ducks! LOL)
[10:22] <kritical> d1gital, if it does... type `top` and have a look for it now =)
[10:22] <d1gital> kritical: it
[10:22] <d1gital> kritical: its givin me nothing
[10:22] <HowardKStern> i dunno, this might be a dumb question. but can you use a windows driver... say for something like a video card, on a ubuntu install?
[10:22] <m_billybob> sudo -s will give you 'root' for your whole session, until you type 'exit' to become regular user
[10:22] <kritical> d1gital, well that's not good :/
[10:22] <Music_Shuffle> HowardKStern, erm...no?
[10:22] <kritical> d1gital, `sudo mount -1`
[10:23] <kritical> err
[10:23] <kritical> d1gital, `sudo mount -a` .. not -1
[10:23] <HowardKStern> so if i have an old ass chip thats not nvidia or ati... am i screwed then?
[10:23] <ahave> m_billybob, hmm, it just said i already have the latest gcc
[10:23] <m_billybob> ahave: sounds like you're good to go
[10:23] <m_billybob> ahave: did you have a problem ?
[10:23] <kritical> m_billybob, so does `sudo su` o_O
[10:23] <d1gital> kritical: did that, sudo swapon -s still giving me nothing..
[10:23] <Cyrus25801> is there a program like steganos for xp to delete file permanently and delete Internet traces
[10:24] <FaintofHeart> Does anyone here know anything about visual settings? I am having trouble properly configuring my chipset to get top performance.
[10:24] <m_billybob> kritical: except, when you sudo, you stay in the user home directory. su + ~/ woul;d put you in /root
[10:24] <kritical> d1gital, hmmm.. `sudo fdisk /dev/hda` <-- look for id 82 or swap
[10:24] <HowardKStern> where do linux users find good drivers for things like video cards (ie... older chips, like s3)
[10:24] <HowardKStern> synaptic?
[10:24] <davin> is it possible to check the total space of a FTP server?
[10:24] <ahave> m_billybob, well yea. i am trying to compile a program and when i run the ./configure it tells me it is unable to create executables
[10:24] <Cyrus25801> is there a internet trace destructor for ubuntu (linux)
[10:24] <matlock> Cyrus: try:  man shred
[10:24] <cradek> HowardKStern: they're all built in
[10:25] <m_billybob> ahave: because gcc isnt installed ?
[10:25] <kritical> d1gital, the command is print
[10:25] <m_billybob> ahave: which package ?
[10:25] <Cyrus25801> matlock: is that a internet trace destructor
[10:25] <ahave> m_billybob, idk. that is what i thought
[10:25] <HowardKStern> okay so installing ubuntu on this old laptop... will probably be running at peak video performance?
[10:25] <cradek> !build-essential |ahave
[10:25] <ubotu> ahave: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:25] <HowardKStern> thats what youre saying?
[10:25] <davin> Like if you have a FTP server and you dont know how big it is (total size)
[10:25] <d1gital> kritical:  /dev/hda4            7166        7247      658665   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:25] <m_billybob> ahave: it should give you an error, and say why.
[10:25] <cradek> HowardKStern: yes
[10:25] <HowardKStern> interesting
[10:25] <ikonia> has anyone noticed the latest 6.0.6 updates has an updated kernel but not a package for 686
[10:25] <HowardKStern> well thats good.
[10:25] <AlexC_> my mate is trying to install Beryl - but when he loads the XGL Session from GDM - it says /usr/local/bin/startxgl.shnot found - but it is
[10:26] <cradek> HowardKStern: installing Linux is generally much easier than windows
[10:26] <ikonia> AlexC_: permissions ?
[10:26] <Cyrus25801> matlock: i c.do you know of a internet trace destructor
[10:26] <DraxNS> no fglrx experts tonite?
[10:26] <bensode> cool thanks for the help =)
[10:26] <HowardKStern> well the reason i ask because ive seen some stuff about beryl or whatever and id like to try it on this old throaway laptop i dont use
[10:26] <HowardKStern> but its not ati or nvidia
[10:26] <ahave> m_billybob, what is PSM? it says i have to have PSM to load that webpage...
[10:26] <HowardKStern> so i was anticipating major headaches
[10:26] <matlock> Cyrus: I don't know a internet-trace destructor. But you could shred the internet-cache
[10:26] <ikonia> HowardKStern: it needa a bit of grunt
[10:26] <m_billybob> ahave: apt-cache search PSM
[10:26] <AlexC_> ikonia: I've told him the command to run to give permission - maybe he's done it wrong not sure.... I'm going to have a look at it tomorrow, but can you think of any other reasons why it would do that?
[10:26] <m_billybob> not familiar with that package personally
[10:27] <kritical> d1gital, hmm.. weird... I've tried my best sorry.. you should try reboot.. check again.. if you're still not having luck.. maybe try ubuntuforums.org or google.com search for something like `ubuntu edgy upgrade swap missing`...
[10:27] <devilsadvocate> d1gital, did you try to hibernate?
[10:27] <ikonia> AlexC_: user permissons, typo in the path ? execute permissions, wrong shell in the hashbang ?
[10:28] <d1gital> devilsadvocate:  don't think so... but it is a laptop so it might do that automatically when i close it
[10:28] <AlexC_> ikonia: you mean the #!/bin/sh  in startxgl.sh ?
[10:28] <m_billybob> ahave: befoire installing packages you DID perform 'apt-get update' + 'apt-get upgrade' yes  ?
[10:28] <ikonia> AlexC_: thats one option
[10:28] <unska> HighLife, are you here? =)
[10:28] <amonbish> sup
[10:28] <ikonia> AlexC_: just giving you a ton of random things to check
[10:28] <HighLife> unska: yes I am
[10:28] <ahave> m_billybob, so how does that apt-get work? i assume it is only listing certain install packages?
[10:28] <AlexC_> ikonia: yeah thanks, I'll keep them in mind
[10:28] <devilsadvocate> d1gital, sometim when you hibernate it screws up the swap parition. dont know why. you need to reformat the swap "sudo mkswap /dev/____" and "udo swapon /dev/____"
[10:29] <ahave> m_billybob, actually... no i did not
[10:29] <m_billybob> ahave: sometimes, with certain packages, if you dont update + upgrade, you can get depends errors
[10:29] <kritical> devilsadvocate, I've had him try that already
[10:29] <unska> HighLife, do you still remember the channel name?
[10:29] <m_billybob> ahave: this could be whats happening, although it also could be somethign else
[10:30] <devilsadvocate> kritical, hmm
[10:30] <m_billybob> like i said, im not familiar with the PSM package
[10:30] <ahave> m_billybob, ok. i updated just now
[10:30] <m_billybob> ahave: did apt-cache search PSM show anything ?
[10:30] <Cyrus25801> matlock: thanx. where is the internet cach situated
[10:30] <awjazz> hello everyone? is this the place to come to get help?
[10:30] <d1gital> devilsadvocate: that seemed to work. swapon -s now shows my swap partition. thanks.
[10:30] <ahave> yes, but nothing useful came up
[10:31] <bewst> No sound, all of a sudden; how to debug?
[10:31] <HighLife> unska srry I don't :P
[10:31] <m_billybob> ahave: what are you doign spepcifically ?
[10:31] <devilsadvocate> kritical, it seems you need to do mkswap as well.
[10:31] <DraxNS> nite all
[10:31] <m_billybob> which package are you compiling ?
[10:31] <unska> HighLife, come #occasus
[10:31] <ahave> m_billybob, BitchX and a few others that i am wanting to install
[10:32] <awjazz> Hi, I'm having trouble getting WEP to work with a PCI wireless card. Could anyone give me any help?
[10:32] <m_billybob> ahave: you do realize there is a procompiled bitchx binary no ?
[10:32] <kritical> devilsadvocate, hmm.. whoops.. I thought I had told him to do that ;S
[10:32] <d1gital> devilsadvocate / kritical:  I'm guessing this means it is fixed?  Swap:   658656k total,        0k used,   658656k free,   234748k cached
[10:32] <linuxnewbie756> how can i rip a cd to mp3 at 256 bts?
[10:32] <devilsadvocate> d1gital, yeah
[10:32] <thekidrio> heh bitchx
[10:33] <thekidrio> i have not used that for a long time
[10:33] <FaintofHeart> Does anyone here know anything about visual settings? I am having trouble properly configuring my chipset to get top performance.
[10:33] <d1gital> devilsadvocate: cool, thanks
[10:33] <m_billybob> ahave: as for understanding apt, do a man apt, and read, its pretty complex, takes some time to learn
[10:33] <kritical> d1gital, well the real test is a reboot.. having fixed the UUID in your fstab it should now work =)
[10:33] <matlock> Cyrus: in your home-folder/.mozilla/firefox/abc.default/cache
[10:33] <m_billybob> well not really 'complex' but there is more than just apt-get *to it*
[10:34] <ahave> m_billybob, so if i dl the binary how do i run that?
[10:34] <m_billybob> ahave: while you're at it, learn all you can about aptitude also
[10:34] <d1gital> kritical:  will try that now. thanks alot.
[10:34] <webmaren> i broke my openoffice.
[10:34] <webmaren> i'm reinstalling it now
[10:34] <kritical> d1gital, no problemo
[10:34] <m_billybob> ahave: apt-get install <package> will download, then install it for you
[10:34] <jzlP> haakuturi, I am an idiot... I cant figure it out.
[10:34] <ahave> m_billybob, i tried to click on an application before and it did nothing
[10:34] <awjazz> My TP-link PCI card works fine with security off, but when i try to turn it on, it fails. Sorry, is there a queue and i have to wait my turn for Guru-ness?
[10:35] <m_billybob> ahave" usually the process i use is apt-cache seach <packagename> then when i find something, i use apt-get install <packaname> or aptitude instal <packagename>
[10:35] <Nuchtos> Hey guys, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask (I've looked through the documentation and searched the forums, but couldn't find anything definitive), but can anyone help me with my 6.10 install?
[10:35] <BrendanM> How do you delete a non-empty directory from the CLI?
[10:35] <_linux> hi, can i get some help
[10:35] <haakuturi> rm - r xxxx
[10:35] <BrendanM> rmdir apparently only works on empty folders
[10:35] <devilsadvocate> BrendanM, rm -r
[10:35] <BrendanM> ok
[10:35] <jzlP> BrendanM, rmdir -r
[10:35] <matlock> Cyrus25801: But I'm sure, there can be additional files in /tmp, too
[10:35] <POVaddct> BrendanM: rm -r dirname
[10:35] <m_billybob> ahave: so, as an exercise, do a apt-cache search bitchx, and find the package you want to install
[10:36] <m_billybob> then aptitude install bitchx
[10:36] <Nuchtos> The problem is that during installation, it hands at an arbitrary point during the copying files stage
[10:36] <m_billybob> if in fact it does show up
[10:36] <kdewhore> i just installled ubuntu but its showing in a command line rather than having a gui, is there an easy fix?
[10:36] <gozert> has anyone gotten RT61 to work with WPA2 and a hex PSK under Edgy?
[10:36] <haakuturi> jzlP how'd fluxbox treat you?
[10:36] <m_billybob> ahave: you you term, or X ?
[10:36] <linuxnewbie756> how can i rip cds to mp3? at 256 bitrate?
[10:36] <jzlP> haakuturi, not very well
[10:36] <jzlP> haakuturi, looking on the wiki... but I dont know how in hell  you get to a terminal
[10:36] <ahave> m_billybob, wow. that is neat.
[10:36] <haakuturi> jzlP how come? What went wrong?
[10:37] <ahave> m_billybob, i am on X, gnome
[10:37] <jzlP> haakuturi, I suck at the *nix
[10:37] <haakuturi> what happens when you right-click?
[10:37] <haakuturi> jzlP you'll get there :)
[10:37] <sdlvx> linuxnewbie: did you search synaptic repos for cd ripping software?
[10:37] <m_billybob> ahave: ok, im not sure of the package manager for gnome, but you may also want to look into that
[10:37] <pimp^air> hi
[10:37] <sdlvx> hey
[10:37] <pimp^air> what's that with the content of python-dev in dapper?
[10:37] <jzlP> haakuturi, when I loaded it... it was just blank.  how do I get to a terminal?
[10:37] <pimp^air> the content is definitely useless
[10:37] <m_billybob> im not exactly an Ubuntu expert, but working with debian, and Ubuntu for the last few years, i know apt fairly well ;)
[10:38] <awjazz> hi, having problems with getting WEP working on tp-link pci card - the card itself works fine without security... is there anyone who can help?
[10:38] <Igor_V2> hi...how i activate that messeges in the start of Ubuntu(6.10) ??
[10:38] <haakuturi> jzlP what happens when you right-click?
[10:38] <m_billybob> when in doubt man  <program>
[10:38] <arke> hello, i have a question. My wireless card was autodetected correctly. I loaded up the wireless configuration tool, and it showed our local network. I clicked, entered the WEP key, however connection failed. Connecting works with the same WEP key on the same computer under windows. Any idea what I could try to make this work?
[10:38] <kdewhore> anyone know how i can get the ubuntu gui working? my graphics card is a 7600 gt
[10:38] <m_billybob> ahave: or better yet, if you like google mroe, use google
 hey! having exactly the same problem
[10:38] <Nuchtos> Hey guys, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask (I've looked through the documentation and searched the forums, but couldn't find anything definitive), but can anyone help me with my 6.10 install?
[10:38] <POVaddct> gozert: i can only test RT61 with wpapsk and it works (using the iwpriv commands)
[10:38] <Igor_V2> hi...how i activate that messeges in the start of Ubuntu(6.10) ??
[10:38] <unska> where can i find beryl 0.11?
[10:38] <sdlvx> synaptic is telling me i can upgrade to kernel 2.6.11, wont i have to reinstall fglrx drivers?
[10:38] <BrownFrog> How does one set up /etc/fstab such that a normal user can read and write to an ext3 partition?
[10:38] <ahave> m_billybob, so when i did a apt-cache search... it returned something that i want to install. but when i do in apt-get it says invaild operation
[10:38] <arke> awjazz: with or without WEP?
[10:39] <arke> I'm considering disabling WEP on the router to see if thats the problem
[10:39] <sdlvx> nuchtos i am not an expert but i have installed ubuntu a bunch
[10:39] <sdlvx> nuchtos: whats wrong?
[10:39] <awjazz> arke: it's fine without WEP, but fails when i turn it on
[10:39] <m_billybob> ahave: apt-get install <package>
[10:39] <jzlP> I got a "fluxbox" menu
[10:39] <Igor_V2> hi...how i activate that messeges in the start of Ubuntu(6.10) ??
[10:39] <m_billybob> so apt-get install bitchx
[10:39] <haakuturi> jzlP ok - go to Apps
[10:39] <thekidrio> ahhh flux box
[10:39] <Nuchtos> sdlvx: Every time I try to install it hands at an arbitrary point during copying files
[10:39] <hjmills> is linux-image-generic being "broken" bad?
[10:39] <haakuturi> jzlP and then Shells
[10:39] <Nuchtos> hangs*
[10:39] <jzlP> haakuturi, I get a "fluxbox" menu with nothing else.. I cant get in there
[10:39] <sdlvx> lol
[10:39] <haakuturi> odd...
[10:40] <thekidrio> yah that is odd
[10:40] <cchance> Im trying to provide a webinternet filter on my network? Any one know of anything that will allow this? (to block porno, proxies, and certain keywords)
[10:40] <jzlP> haakuturi, just a fluxbox menu... not clickable
[10:40] <thekidrio> cchance, yeah
[10:40] <ahave> m_billybob, wow. thanks. it is installing now...
[10:40] <EnsignRedshirt> Any evolution users here?  I created a Contact List, but whenever I use it to send email, it by default "hides" the recipients.  I.e. it seems to do a blind cc, even though I didn't ask it to.
[10:40] <thekidrio> there are a few things
[10:40] <haakuturi> ok - go back to Gnome for a sec? :)
[10:40] <m_billybob> ahave: also, later down the road, if you decide you dont like bitchx, you can use apt-get remove bitchx, this applies for al lprograms installed through the apt program
[10:40] <thekidrio> look at the christian edition of ubuntu
[10:40] <thekidrio> great filter program there
[10:40] <ahave> m_billybob, will that page you link me to explain how aptitude obtains its list of programs?
[10:40] <Nuchtos> I've tried three times: first time it failed at 31%, then 29%, then I decided to use a 788MB swap partition instead of a 369MB one and it hung at 45%
[10:40] <arke> Alright, I disabled WEP on the browser, however wireless still won't connect to the network :(
[10:40] <m_billybob> ahave: what page did i link you to ?
[10:41] <m_billybob> man apt ?
[10:41] <awjazz> arke: have you set up the key on the computer to disable
[10:41] <thekidrio> ahave thats in /etc/apt/sources.list i think
[10:41] <cchance> thekidrio, what
[10:41] <thekidrio> cchance, you are trying to filter web access correct?
[10:41] <Igor_V2> hi...how i activate that messeges in the start of Ubuntu(6.10) ??
[10:41] <m_billybob> :/
[10:41] <pimp^air> where is python.h located ? which package do i need to install to get that file?
[10:41] <m_billybob> linking*
[10:41] <cchance> thekidrio, yes, without installing a new os
[10:41] <kdewhore> well if anyone can help just message me as im really desperate
[10:42] <haakuturi> jzlP log out by hitting ctrl-alt-backspace :)
[10:42] <thekidrio> yeah not new os, they say what program they use
[10:42] <thekidrio> lemme see if i can find it
[10:42] <erUSUL> pimp^air: python*something*-dev
[10:42] <haakuturi> jzlP then log in to Gnome again :)
[10:42] <Igor_V2> pimp^air: try sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[10:42] <haakuturi> and message me when you're back :)
[10:42] <thekidrio> dansguardian
[10:42] <cchance> thekidrioplease
[10:42] <cchance> thekidrio, ive tried that but could not get it to work
[10:43] <gozert> has anyone gotten RaLink RT2561/RT61 to work with Ubuntu 6.10? It doesn't work for me
[10:43] <ahave> m_billybob, i am just amazed at how many programs you can install with apt
[10:43] <arke> awjazz: yep
[10:43] <m_billybob> ahave: its a lot
[10:43] <arke> still isnt connecting
[10:43] <arke> oh wait
[10:43] <arke> it connected now
[10:43] <Nuchtos> Hm, nvm, I'll try 6.06 instead.
[10:43] <arke> how do i test ping something over eth1 instead of eth0?
[10:43] <hjmills> linux-image-generic is broken?
[10:43] <awjazz> arke: yeah so now we both have the same problem
[10:43] <ahave> m_billybob, i still cant run the configure.. but ill save that for later. thanks again
[10:43] <awjazz> arke: it seems to work fin on mine without WEP
[10:44] <arke> hmm
[10:44] <arke> brb, testing something
[10:44] <thekidrio> hrmmm ok cchance, go to this url, http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/06/23/1521209.shtml
[10:44] <POVaddct> gozert: i compiled the RT61 driver myself and it works with open, wep and wpa networks
[10:44] <m_billybob> ahave: you will most likely over time run into programs you cant install with apt, and you may have to compile, but, given time, you'll learn all of that, and there are usually tutorials all over the web concerning those applications (usually)
[10:44] <Igor_V2> hi...how i activate that messeges in the start of Ubuntu(6.10) ??
[10:44] <gozert> POVaddct: kewl! I'm on 2.6.17-10-generic here, you?
[10:44] <awjazz> are there any alternatives to the standard networking settings for setting up WEP?
[10:44] <awjazz> *standard networking utility
[10:44] <mindeq> hi all , i have a problem, firstly i installed windows xp, then in another partition installed ubuntu, but now when i try to boot .. i get "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable" and "PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel Boot Agent" , and can't load anything, please help me to figure out .. when was only windows it worked ok .. but after i installed ubuntu i got that problem :/
[10:45] <POVaddct> gozert: i dont use the ubuntu kernel, compiled my own from 2.6.18.6 sources
[10:45] <arke> YES!
[10:45] <arke> it worked! :)
[10:45] <Jelloman> Hey I got a question...
[10:45] <arke> I'm now connected via wireless
[10:45] <thekidrio> hehe arke
[10:45] <thekidrio> woot
[10:45] <thekidrio> ndiswrapper?
[10:45] <arke> however ... its without WEP, still.
[10:45] <haakuturi> brb
[10:45] <gozert> POVaddct: So that makes a difference then? Did you use "rt61-1.1.0-b1"?
[10:45] <arke> nah autodetected
[10:45] <Jelloman> My dad made it so bios works again...so that may mean ubuntu is gone...because the menu no longer comes up...how would i partition it back?
[10:45] <thekidrio> or auto detected?
[10:45] <jzlP> haakuturi, thats how Im talking to you now
[10:45] <arke> however, it didnt seem to connect
[10:45] <LesterGreen> if i download and install ubuntu 6.06.... can i simply update to 6.10 and future versions without having to download a new cd and running it all etc?
[10:45] <m_billybob> mindeq: do you actuall boot using PXE ?
[10:45] <arke> i disabled WEP on the router
[10:45] <arke> now i got it to work
[10:45] <arke> but i fear
[10:45] <arke> if i enable WEP again
[10:45] <arke> it wont work :(
[10:45] <kdewhore> the thing i need help with is Xorg is there a channel for this?
[10:46] <thekidrio> yeah wep should work
[10:46] <POVaddct> gozert: no, i used the one from ralink (not from the serialmonkey page)
[10:46] <mindeq> m_billybob hm i don't know what's PXE
[10:46] <thekidrio> when you set up your wep key
[10:46] <thekidrio> what do you say?
[10:46] <thekidrio> hex?
[10:46] <arke> yeah, hex
[10:46] <awjazz> yup same boat
[10:46] <cchance> thekidrio, thanks so much! MY Family also thanks you
[10:46] <arke> i have a hex key
[10:46] <thekidrio> and whats your wireless router?
[10:46] <gozert> POVaddct: i tried that one too, but it didn't even change the ESSID
[10:46] <thekidrio> cchance, my pleasure!
[10:46] <arke> linksys
[10:46] <arke> erm
[10:46] <m_billybob> mindeq: its a method for booting a remote OS, ie the OS would actually be on a PXE server
[10:46] <Igor_V2> LesterGreen: yes..if you have the 6.06 you can update to the 6.10
[10:46] <arke> not sure the exact one but its pretty standard 802.11g linksys router
[10:46] <LesterGreen> how would one do that Igor_V2
[10:46] <arke> the one everybody uses :P
[10:46] <Igor_V2> without cd
[10:46] <thekidrio> hehe
[10:46] <arke> brb gonna try WEP again
[10:46] <awjazz> i have exactly the same prob as arke with netgear router and tp-link card
[10:47] <jzlP> arke, wrt54g?
[10:47] <delight> !tovid
[10:47] <POVaddct> gozert: the RT61 from ralink has some strange behaviour when setting down and up the ra0 interface
[10:47] <awjazz> fine until i try enabling WEP
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <eyalw> hi, anyone up to a flash-java project?
[10:47] <mindeq> m_billybob i just see that text now after i installed windows and ubuntu :/ earlier i didn't saw that
[10:47] <EnsignRedshirt> LesterGreen: There are pretty good instructions for upgrading on the web page help.ubuntu.com
[10:47] <POVaddct> gozert: make sure the file /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/*.dat is present
[10:47] <LesterGreen> k
[10:47] <cradek> in edgy how do I copy a CD to an iso image?  When I insert the CD I don't get an icon on the desktop like I did in dapper
[10:47] <thekidrio> hrmm awjazz, wep not workin...
[10:47] <LesterGreen> ty ;)
[10:47] <POVaddct> gozert: if that file is missing, you can only set ra0 up once
[10:48] <awjazz> thekidrio: yeah just can't get it to work
[10:48] <awjazz> ive only used the diolog box utility so far
[10:48] <thekidrio> awjazz, go to console and sudo network-admin
[10:48] <m_billybob> mindeq: give me a few, im asking a friend on another server
[10:48] <hjmills> i am having trouble with synaptic - its telling me that linux-image-generic depends on linux-image-2.17.-11-generic but that isnt going to be installed - does anybody have any ideas how i can fix this otherwise im too scared to reboot
[10:48] <gozert> POVaddct: yes, and something else seems to be going wrong: root@ws2:~# iwpriv ra0 set Channel=11       Interface doesn't accept private ioctl...         set (8BE2): Invalid argument
[10:48] <mindeq> m_billybob ok thx
[10:48] <Igor_V2> LesterGreen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:48] <thekidrio> then select your wireless car
[10:48] <thekidrio> card
[10:48] <thekidrio> then configure
[10:48] <thekidrio> err properties
[10:48] <thekidrio> not conf
[10:48] <POVaddct> gozert: i would set the channel with iwconfig, not iwpriv
[10:49] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Check out the green box here: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[10:49] <POVaddct> gozert: the only iwpriv calls i need are for wpapsk
[10:49] <thekidrio> and you have network name and hex and password at the top right
[10:49] <thekidrio> sorry network name, password type and password
[10:49] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, darn - that means somebody up high broke something, good - its affecting everybody so it will get fixed soon i hope
[10:49] <m_billybob> mindeq: what all did you do ? just by reading that error, it soudns like maybe you're trying to boot from ethernt for some reason, whether you did it on accident, or by mistake
[10:49] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, thanks
[10:49] <thekidrio> sorry network name, password type and password
[10:49] <awjazz> thekidrio: yep that's right
[10:49] <awjazz> network name, key type, WEP key
[10:50] <thekidrio> all correct info there awjazz?
[10:50] <gozert> POVaddct: ok, good... though i don't know what channel i should use anyway.... just copied it from the wiki
[10:50] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: Ha... I had the same reaction... "Darn!  ... but good, it isn't just me."
[10:50] <mindeq> m_billybob i installed windows , but didn't do anything with network
[10:50] <awjazz> yeah ive tried retyping and everything
[10:50] <mindeq> then installed ubuntu, and after that i got that problem
[10:50] <thekidrio> hrmm odd ball, and it fails on connect?
[10:50] <m_billybob> mindeq: grub, or lilo ?
[10:50] <mindeq> on ubuntu it's grub
[10:50] <awjazz> yes, but its fine without security
[10:50] <POVaddct> gozert: how did you set up your AP? open, wep or wpa?
[10:50] <gozert> POVaddct: the AP is set up to use WPA2 and PSK, with a cryptic key of 64 hex chars, AES
[10:50] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, more comforting to not suffer alone
[10:50] <awjazz> arke has exactly the same problm
[10:51] <thekidrio> hrmm yeah i was helping him hehe
[10:51] <thekidrio> well trying to
[10:51] <HighLife> Hey, when I start gnome it loads a blank screen with no toolbars or icons and it's ttly worthless, how can I fix this?
[10:51] <m_billybob> mindeq:well let me give you a link just incase we cant get this resolved
[10:51] <awjazz> i think i should have a look at the config file rather than this dialog
[10:51] <Neo1ite> Hi all, can anyone help me with a cron problem?
[10:51] <awjazz> could you point me in the right direction?
[10:51] <m_billybob> mindeq: that is, do you mind reinstalling ? or is this a problem ?
[10:51] <POVaddct> gozert: i dont know if it is possible to set the psk as hex with iwpriv
[10:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Neo1ite: No one will know until you describe the problem :)
[10:52] <gozert> POVaddct: the README in the ralink driver source tree says it's possible
[10:52] <Lynoure> !anyone | Neo1ite
[10:52] <ubotu> Neo1ite: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:52] <mindeq> i reinstalled it cleanly
[10:52] <mindeq> but get the same
[10:52] <POVaddct> gozert: i'd rather read the iwpriv_usage.txt from the ralink driver
[10:52] <gozert> POVaddct: on a laptop with Atheros chipset and wpa_supplicant it works perfectly, OOTB
[10:52] <mindeq> when i set a cable of internet, on booting it is trying to find .. info using dhcp
[10:52] <awjazz> where is the configuration file(s) for WEP setup
[10:52] <m_billybob> mindeq: well this method is a bit different than what you did, and it supposed to work
[10:52] <thekidrio> awjazz, that ui builds the config file
[10:53] <Neo1ite> I have a problem with cronjobs not running, I've done crontab -e logging in as root, and it shows 0 * * * * webalizer, job is never run?
[10:53] <m_billybob> mindeq: http://www.hevnikov.com/blog/2006/11/13/triple-boot-xp-vista-ubuntu-with-single-boot-screen/ just leave out the Vistas part
[10:53] <thekidrio> /etc/network/interfaces
[10:53] <gozert> POVaddct: "WPAPSK                  {8~63 ascii or 64 hex characters}"
[10:53] <Neo1ite> im running 6.06LTS
[10:53] <mindeq> hm is there any way to turn off cheking the network on booting ?
[10:53] <thekidrio> mine isnamed ath0
[10:53] <POVaddct> gozert: oh, i see
[10:53] <m_billybob> mindeq: yeah, under the BIOS options for your card
[10:53] <thekidrio> billybob i think he is talking about init
[10:53] <mindeq> hm i think i can't cause my laptop doesn't allow that i think
[10:53] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: Can you run the 'webalizer' programme by itself?
[10:54] <m_billybob> mindeq: you either 1) have an intel card that has boot from ethernet enabled, or 2) the option is in the BIOS
[10:54] <Neo1ite> yes i can
[10:54] <thekidrio> billybob, or linux is trying to bring it up on boot
[10:54] <mindeq> yeah my card is probably intel
[10:54] <awjazz> thkidrio: ok found and opened the file
[10:54] <m_billybob> laptop ?
[10:54] <thekidrio> do you mean wake on lan mindeq?
[10:54] <m_billybob> its probably onboard
[10:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Neo1ite: Does the program generate output on the console?
[10:54] <thekidrio> or try to find a network during linux boot
[10:54] <jesse> does anyone know how to play midi music files on Linux?
[10:54] <awjazz> thekidrio: do you want me to type what i see in the interfaces file?
[10:54] <Neo1ite> it does when i run it manually
[10:55] <jesse> does anyone know how to play midi music files on Linux?
[10:55] <thekidrio> awjazz, nah lemme find some more info
[10:55] <m_billybob> thekidrio: yeah, although, im not sure how you would get into menu.lst, to disable that
[10:55] <mindeq> thekidrio what do you mean ?
[10:55] <POVaddct> jesse: install timidity
[10:55] <gozert> jesse: install timidity
[10:55] <mindeq> m_billybob yes laptop
[10:55] <gozert> lol
[10:55] <awjazz> thekidrio: it is all correct
[10:55] <thekidrio> hrmm
[10:55] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: Which version of cron are you running?
[10:55] <m_billybob> mindeq: which distro ?
[10:55] <thekidrio> this is a fairly common error it seems awjazz
[10:55] <m_billybob> mindeq: Edgy ?
[10:55] <POVaddct> gozert: so you use the iwpriv commands in example d> of iwpriv_usage.txt?
[10:55] <arke> ok wep just simply doesnt seem to work :(
[10:55] <mindeq> os ubuntu ?
[10:55] <mindeq> of*
[10:56] <Neo1ite> how would i find that out? sorry am a total newcomer!
[10:56] <arke> I'll leave WEP off for now
[10:56] <mindeq> i'm using
[10:56] <mindeq> ubuntu 10
[10:56] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: 'ls /etc/init.d/ |grep cron'
[10:56] <gozert> POVaddct: i'm going through those docs right now...
[10:56] <m_billybob> mindeq: 6.10 or 6.06 ?
[10:56] <jesse> thank you
[10:56] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:56] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:56] <mindeq> 6.10
[10:56] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: is one way. It should be 'cron' or 'vixie-cron'
[10:56] <m_billybob> mind, and the CD you have is a liveCD ?
[10:56] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:56] <mindeq> i have downloaded iso file from my university
[10:56] <POVaddct> gozert: the ra0 interface must be "up" when running those iwpriv commands
[10:56] <mindeq> and made a bootable cd
[10:56] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:56] <Neo1ite> anacron
[10:56] <Neo1ite> cron
[10:56] <Neo1ite> root@s
[10:57] <gozert> POVaddct: thanks for the tips :)
[10:57] <m_billybob> mindeq: it is a liveCD though yes ?
[10:57] <thekidrio> hey jazz, lemme grab you the url it has a how to fix that problem
[10:57] <mindeq> yes
[10:57] <awjazz> thekidrio: right, well is it a bug somewhere in the ubuntu or the kernal
[10:57] <POVaddct> gozert: and setting the SSID twice is not a mistake
[10:57] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:57] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:57] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:57] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[10:57] <m_billybob> mindeq: will it boot the LIveCD fine ?
[10:57] <awjazz> :thekidrio: ok thanks a lot
[10:57] <gravemind> hey when I try to access a shared directory on another computer, it asks for a username, domain, and password. everything I put doesn't seem to work
[10:57] <mindeq> yes
[10:57] <gozert> POVaddct: it needs the ssid twice?
[10:57] <POVaddct> gozert: iwpriv ra0 set SSID="AP's SSID"
[10:58] <POVaddct> gozert: iwpriv ra0 set WPAPSK="AP's wpa-preshared key"
[10:58] <POVaddct> gozert: iwpriv ra0 set SSID="AP's SSID"
[10:58] <m_billybob> mindeq: do that then, when you get to the desktop, we'll try to see whats going on with menu.lst
[10:58] <POVaddct> gozert: look at example number d> in the file
[10:58] <thekidrio-sparc> http://comphobby.org/archives/14-More-Ubuntu-WPA-PSK-From-A-Joe-Sixpack-Perspective.html
[10:58] <Neo1ite> oo hang on, think i may have just sorted it, i edited /etc/crontab
[10:58] <thekidrio> use that one awjazz
[10:58] <mindeq> ok i'm going to run ubuntu
[10:58] <gozert> POVaddct: thanks
[10:58] <mindeq> from cd
[10:58] <awjazz> thanks
[10:58] <m_billybob> k
[10:58] <thekidrio> np awjazz that should work
[10:59] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: What was it?
[10:59] <awjazz> i may get back to you, but if all goes well, thanks very much
[10:59] <thekidrio-sparc> ok sparc logging out
[10:59] <DJ_Gentoo> hey
[10:59] <gozert> POVaddct: not sure though, if the key should be in quotes for a hex key or not
[10:59] <DJ_Gentoo> I'm from the SuperTux dev team
[10:59] <nalioth> !tell opij about repeat
[10:59] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: Did you leave the hash in? ;)
[11:00] <arke> awjazz: maybe this helps us: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2922.html
[11:00] <thekidrio> !wep
[11:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <DJ_Gentoo> and I have a request about the current version of SuperTux in the apt archives
[11:00] <guerby> hi, is there a function to blank a CD-RW disk in a default install of edgy?
[11:00] <DJ_Gentoo> who should I direct it to?
[11:00] <POVaddct> gozert: putting quotes around it will do no harm :)
[11:00] <tmi_> .ubuntu
[11:00] <gozert> POVaddct: ok -_-'
[11:00] <Neo1ite> no, but for some reason crontab -e doesn't work, it points to a temporary file
[11:00] <mzanfardino> non-ubuntu related question: does anyone have any recommendations for where one might find a decent web host?
[11:00] <cpk1> DJ_Gentoo: the package maintainer for the supertux package
[11:00] <DJ_Gentoo> email?
[11:00] <Neo1ite> so it seems to be necessary to actually sudo pico /etc/crontab
[11:00] <thekidrio> mzanfardino, what do you need at the host?
[11:01] <thekidrio> do you want a full lamp host? (web, database, and programming language
[11:01] <thekidrio> or just static pages
[11:01] <mzanfardino> thekidrio, my business site.  I'm doing a lot of web development though, so it has to permit me to load aps in cgi-bin, etc...
[11:01] <gyaresu_> guerby: 'cdrecord blank=fast'
[11:01] <mzanfardino> thekidrio, lamp I'm guessing
[11:01] <thekidrio> godaddy is pretty good mzanfardino
[11:02] <thekidrio> networksolutions is a bit more costly but its VERY reliable
[11:02] <mzanfardino> thekidrio, though for the M (mysql), I'd prefer PostgreSQL...
[11:02] <DJ_Gentoo> email for the package maintainer?
[11:02] <DJ_Gentoo> *maintainers(s)?
[11:02] <thekidrio> mzan, then i would search for postgresql web host
[11:02] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[11:02] <mindeq> m_billybob huh sorry have to help to my family a little bit.. brb
[11:02] <mzanfardino> thekidrio, I'm checking out godaddy right now.
[11:02] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[11:02] <gozert> POVaddct: does the driver has to be in a certain state first? Is it bothered by rmmod/modprobe?
[11:02] <thekidrio> that will make it a bit more limited, most use mysql
[11:02] <DJ_Gentoo> or a list?
[11:02] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: Remember to use the name of the person when you address them so they see you are talking to them.
[11:02] <erUSUL> DJ_Gentoo: make a bug report against the package in launchpad
[11:03] <gozert> POVaddct: because it says in iwconfig now, "          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Bit Rate=1 Mb/s", "Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:113"
[11:03] <POVaddct> gozert: if you want it in a clean state, rmmod and modprobe it
[11:03] <awjazz> hi thekidrio?
[11:03] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: Otherwise it gets lost in the noise.
[11:03] <sivik> what, other than tuxracer, is a good program, opensource, to test 3d graphics with
[11:03] <mzanfardino> thekidrio, yeah, I was afraid of that.  The problem is I"m doing GIS development and my database backend is PostgreSQL with PostGIS...
[11:03] <Neo1ite> gyaresu_: thanks for your help
[11:03] <thekidrio> heyas jazz
[11:03] <DJ_Gentoo> okay, I'll get on it ASAP
[11:03] <thekidrio> any luck?
[11:03] <POVaddct> gozert: and dont forget to set the interface up again
[11:03] <erUSUL> !bugs | DJ_Gentoo
[11:03] <ubotu> DJ_Gentoo: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:03] <awjazz> that web page was all about WPA, and I'm having problems with WEP right now
[11:03] <gyaresu_> Neo1ite: no problem.
[11:03] <cpk1> DJ_Gentoo: doing aptitude show supertux tells you ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <gozert> POVaddct: ofcourse -_-'
[11:03] <DJ_Gentoo> and a heads-up about SuperTux:
[11:03] <arke> hey this is cool
[11:03] <arke> i can keep browsing and chatting while I'm installing
[11:03] <EnsignRedshirt> sivik: glxgears is pretty basic
[11:03] <thekidrio> shit sorry jazz, i pasted wrong link
[11:04] <awjazz> lol ok
[11:04] <DJ_Gentoo> do *NOT* download version 0.3.0 unless you have 3D acceleration!
[11:04] <sivik> EnsignRedshirt, real program
[11:04] <POVaddct> gozert: are you sure you are using the driver from ralink now? the module is called rt61, not rt61pci
[11:04] <DJ_Gentoo> it's an unstable version.
[11:04] <gozert> POVaddct: yes, it's rt61
[11:04] <POVaddct> gozert: okay
[11:04] <DJ_Gentoo> Debian has it up, and I'm guessing it was merged into the Ubuntu pool during your sync
[11:04] <gozert> POVaddct: though currently the beta driver is installed
[11:04] <cpk1> DJ_Gentoo: very unlikely an unstable package made it to the repos
[11:05] <POVaddct> gozert: now i am confused
[11:05] <gozert> POVaddct: if this reconfiguration doesn't work, i'll install the old driver over it again
[11:05] <POVaddct> gozert: you cant use the iwpriv commands with the beta driver from serialmonkey
[11:05] <barrett9h> Hi.  I installed mplayer from source, using checkinstall.  Now every time I boot, the update manager shows up, telling me to upgrade mplayer.  How do I override it?
[11:05] <DJ_Gentoo> it did...
[11:05] <thekidrio> hey jazz, while my sparc machine comes back to life, did you see wireless-key and wireless-essid in your interfaces file?
[11:05] <DJ_Gentoo> we've been talking about it on the mailing lists
[11:06] <HP_Vue> What is the command to run programs?
[11:06] <DJ_Gentoo> I'm proposing the solution Debian ended up using to the packaging maintainers here
[11:06] <awjazz> yes i did
[11:06] <gozert> POVaddct: i had the official ralink driver, then i installed the beta driver over it, but i still have the other source tree and rt61spa.dat file
[11:06] <DJ_Gentoo> HP_Vue, it's just the program's name
[11:06] <thekidrio> its usually ./filename hp vue
[11:06] <awjazz> they were correct
[11:06] <gozert> POVaddct: oh...
[11:06] <DJ_Gentoo> or for a GUI, it's the Terminal
[11:06] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: Which programme did you want to run?
[11:06] <thekidrio> just have to make it executable
[11:06] <HP_Vue> kxdocker
[11:06] <gozert> POVaddct: I'll just remove this driver then...
[11:07] <HP_Vue>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4759/
[11:07] <gozert> POVaddct: btw, is this needed: iwpriv ra0 set TxRate=0 ?
[11:07] <awjazz> thekidrio: my essid and key are correct in the interfaces file
[11:07] <Fourbit> \part
[11:07] <dm> Is edgy available in LiveCD?
[11:07] <POVaddct> gozert: no. why don't you follow the iwpriv_usage.txt file?
[11:07] <DJ_Gentoo> dm, yes
[11:08] <m_billybob> ...
[11:08] <dm> where? i cant find it
[11:08] <EnsignRedshirt> dm: The desktop CD is a live CD
[11:08] <DJ_Gentoo> download the imag
[11:08] <moreati> dm: the edgy cd is a liccd and installer in one
[11:08] <dm> ahhhh..
[11:08] <dm> gotcha
[11:08] <thekidrio> are you using open or shared key?
[11:08] <gozert> POVaddct: it was in the other howto, guessed it was there for /something/ :p
[11:08] <awjazz> im using a key that i type in to each computer
[11:08] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: It's trying to run but something is stopping it. I don't know what.
[11:09] <HP_Vue> gyaresu_: You make it sound so scary
[11:09] <bewst> Hi All.  Trying to test feisty on  external USB drive, getting GRUB error 17.  Found this explanation but I don't want it to be true.  After all, it read the MBR OK: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=383525
[11:09] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: Did you try searching with "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" on google?
[11:09] <HP_Vue> "Something is stoppind it
[11:09] <HP_Vue> no
[11:09] <HP_Vue> i am not
[11:09] <guerby> gyaresu_, thx! do you know of a graphical tool to do it?
[11:09] <HP_Vue> *I am now
[11:09] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: :) Not scary :)
[11:09] <POVaddct> gozert: i dont the other howto and to which rt61 driver it relates
[11:09] <mackinac> !enter
[11:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:10] <gyaresu_> guerby: Sorry, what was it you were doing? :)
[11:10] <POVaddct> gozert: i refer to this one: RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0.tar.gz
[11:10] <guerby> gyaresu_, trying to blank a CD-RW with edgy only by clicking around :)
[11:11] <gozert> POVaddct: yes, i'm installig that tarball atm
[11:11] <shafire> i want to use a console and when i tip firefox, it should open firefox! BUT IT SHOULDN'T use KDE or so one possible?
[11:11] <awjazz> arke: any luck with your connection?
[11:11] <DJ_Gentoo> The bug report has been filed, thanks!
[11:11] <gyaresu_> guerby: k3b is the best burning tool (KDE based). There may be a decent GNOME app now though...
[11:11] <DJ_Gentoo> guerby...
[11:11] <DJ_Gentoo> it won't fit.
[11:11] <DJ_Gentoo> a CDRW is smaller than a CDR
[11:11] <guerby> gyaresu_, thanks for the ref (k3b is not installed by default AFAIK)
[11:12] <DJ_Gentoo> it'ss be 50MB or so shy of fitting onto the CD
[11:12] <DJ_Gentoo> *it'll...
[11:12] <guerby> DJ_Gentoo, feisty?
[11:12] <awjazz> thekidrio: you still there?
[11:12] <DJ_Gentoo> I think so
[11:12] <bewst> Anyone booting successfully from USB drive?
[11:12] <HP_Vue> What is the commmand to run xorg.conf in terminal?
[11:12] <DJ_Gentoo> is it >650MB?
[11:12] <DJ_Gentoo> which type of Ubuntu?
[11:12] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: What do you want to do to it?
[11:12] <guerby> DJ_Gentoo, 699MB
[11:13] <DJ_Gentoo> won't work.
[11:13] <yanger> hello, having problems with updating ubuntu edgy with apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude dist-upgrade - it's telling me that linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic are broken ;/ aptitude wants to remove all of the kernels, and apt-get doesn't want to do anything now.. any ideas on how to fix?
[11:13] <HP_Vue> I want to edit xorg.conf
[11:13] <DJ_Gentoo> trust me.
[11:13] <thekidrio> jazz!
[11:13] <thekidrio> hehe
[11:13] <gozert> POVaddct: should i change the defaults in rt61sta.dat ?
[11:13] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: 'sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf' (after backing it up of course)
[11:13] <DJ_Gentoo> sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[11:13] <HP_Vue> thanks
[11:13] <DJ_Gentoo> yanger
[11:13] <guerby> DJ_Gentoo, I'll let you know in a few minute. I'll try with a normal CD-R if it doesn't work
[11:13] <DJ_Gentoo> okay
[11:13] <bushblows> when i try to open login window preferences it acts like it is going ot load, asks me for a password i give it roo tpassword and then it never opens
[11:13] <EnsignRedshirt> yanger: Check out the green box at ubuntuforums.org
[11:13] <DJ_Gentoo> it will work on a CD-R!
[11:13] <dm> Whats the command to bring of the gconf editor ? i need to turn off showing drives on my desktop
[11:13] <bushblows> anyone know what would cause it to do this
[11:13] <corevette> how come beryl won't open when i select it as the default window manager?
[11:14] <thekidrio> in the password box try typing restricted xxxxxx for your password
[11:14] <derspankster> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:14] <gyaresu_> guerby: What are you trying to do?
[11:14] <yanger> The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic; 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[11:14] <POVaddct> gozert: i usually reduce that file to WirelessMode=0 and NetworkType=Infra
[11:14] <DJ_Gentoo> sudo apt-get -f upgrade, yanger
[11:14] <thekidrio> corvette tye beryl in your terminal and see if that works
[11:14] <gozert> POVaddct: btw, i blacklisted rt61pci, that's ok right?
[11:14] <yanger> doh
[11:14] <yanger> ok
[11:14] <DJ_Gentoo> try it
[11:14] <DJ_Gentoo> it *might* work
[11:14] <derspankster> HP_Vue:sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:14] <HP_Vue> gyaresu_: That wasn't the right command
[11:14] <yanger> DJ_Gentoo that's what I got
[11:14] <POVaddct> gozert: yeah, rt61pci should be in blacklist
[11:14] <yanger> The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic; 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[11:15] <DJ_Gentoo> ah
[11:15] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: To do what?
[11:15] <DJ_Gentoo> dern
[11:15] <derspankster> HP_Vue: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:15] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: edit xorg.conf?
[11:15] <HP_Vue> I got it thankas
[11:15] <DJ_Gentoo> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:15] <EnsignRedshirt> yanger: That is the same problem that many other people are having.
[11:15] <DJ_Gentoo> it will work on a CDR, not a CDRW
[11:15] <HP_Vue> wtf
[11:15] <lightcap> Is there really no backport for apache 2.2.x?
[11:16] <lightcap> Im not seeing one anywhere...
[11:16] <HP_Vue> All I want is to open up xorg.conf in a text editor from the terminal
[11:16] <Floppyjoe> bewst: from USB thumbdrive?
[11:16] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: 'sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[11:16] <DJ_Gentoo> or s/vi/nano
[11:16] <mindeq> hey
[11:16] <moreati> HP_Vue: sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <yanger> EnsignRedshirt i see... thanks! :) i'm revieing the forums
[11:16] <HP_Vue> that opens it in the terminal it self
[11:16] <yanger> reviewing
[11:16] <mindeq> should i act like this
[11:16] <DJ_Gentoo> nano's easier, IMO, but vi's okay
[11:16] <mindeq> first install ubuntu, then xp ?
[11:16] <awjazz> thekidrio: restricted xxxxx? what?
[11:16] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: Oh. You want a GUI programme...
[11:16] <shafire> i want to use a console and when i tip firefox, it should open firefox! BUT IT SHOULDN'T use KDE or so one possible?
[11:17] <thekidrio> yeah weird eh
[11:17] <thekidrio> lemme get you a url
[11:17] <moreati> HP_Vue: in that case, gksudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <guerby> gyaresu_, burn a feisty herd 3 AMD64 ISO because my old 6.06 CD doesn't recognize that much of my new 965GM mobo machine
[11:17] <awjazz> i think im looking at the same page
[11:18] <HP_Vue> xorg.conf is not loading
[11:18] <gyaresu_> HP_Vue: kwrite/gedit or something will do but you really want to learn a terminal editor for when X doesn't want to run. You can then fix it from the command line.
[11:18] <thekidrio> http://choosing-a-blog-url-sucks.blogspot.com/2006/11/howto-configure-ubuntu-to-work-with.html
[11:18] <thekidrio> that where you are?
[11:18] <yanger> hmm, no fix yet .. guess i'll just wait :) thanks all.
[11:18] <HP_Vue> xorg.conf is not loading in the text editor
[11:18] <gozert> POVaddct: hmm.. it says "root@ws2:~# ifup ra0                Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :                    SET failed on device ra0 ; Network is down.          Failed to bring up ra0.
[11:18] <gyaresu_> guerby: 'ls -lh feist-iso-blah-version.iso'
[11:18] <mindeq> is there difference if i install first ubuntu then xp, from first xp then ubuntu ?
[11:18] <awjazz> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2922.html
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[11:19] <DJ_Gentoo> mind, nope!
[11:19] <Flannel> mindeq: no.  But there's fewer steps with windows first.
[11:19] <guerby> gyaresu_, -rw-r--r-- 1 guerby guerby 698M 2007-02-01 12:46 feisty-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:19] <moreati> guerby: I'll warn toy now about3d on 965g  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/66645
[11:19] <DJ_Gentoo> other than the default
[11:19] <mindeq> hm
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[11:19] <POVaddct> gozert: not ifup, ifconfig ra0 up, then iwpriv commands
[11:19] <mackinac> mindeq: install windows first, or you'll lose grub...
[11:19] <gyaresu_> guerby: If it's bigger than 650MB likd DJ_Gentoo said then you will need a CD-R
[11:19] <Flannel> !ops
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[11:22] <Seveas> NOTICE: the channel is currently muted, noone can see what you say
[11:22] <BearPerson> Seveas, try -m+R
[11:22] <Seveas> BearPerson, are these bots not registered?
[11:22] <nalioth> Seveas: they are not
[11:22] <LoRez> no they're not.
[11:22] <RichiH> oi
[11:22] <Seveas> what is chii?
[11:22] <gozert> what happened? can we talk again now?
[11:23] <mackinac> yes
[11:23] <Flannel> mindeq: and, you'll also have it easier if you install windows to it's final partition, instead of resizing later.  Just resize/partition to begin with, and then install XP to it's partition, and linux to it's partition.
[11:23] <LoRez> I wonder if my kline trigger is set up properly.
[11:23] <Maniac[ssh] > hey guys
[11:23] <gyaresu_> Yes, but very quietly.
[11:23] <gozert> mindeq: sometimes NTLDR fails if you first install GNU/Linux (not just Ubuntu)
[11:23] <apokryphos> EVERYONE: if you haven't already, please register your nickname to speak at this time. Instructions at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:23] <gozert> mindeq: it does always seem to work if the first partition is the ntfs partition and set bootable
[11:23] <POVaddct> gozert: looks like distributed attack
[11:23] <Maniac[ssh] > anyone know how to get a QLogic 2422 working under 6.06?
[11:23] <gozert> POVaddct: the bastards :P
[11:23] <mindeq> hm
[11:23] <POVaddct> gozert: yeah...
[11:23] <RichiH> Seveas: utility bot
[11:24] <mindeq> gozert k i'll try
[11:24] <Seveas> RichiH, I'm not at all pleased with bots that have ops...
[11:24] <alecjw> hi. when i open the report wizzard in OOo bvase, it jsut shows an empty ewindow asking for a title
[11:24] <mindeq> cause now my first partition is ubuntu ..
[11:24] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[11:24] <opij> Can some one help me with ddos net?
[11:24] <BearPerson> hmm, I wonder if +Rz works the way it should
[11:24] <jesselang> !edgykernel
[11:24] <ubotu> There is currently a server-side inconsistency preventing kernel upgrades to version 2.6.17-11. A bug has been filed, please be patient.
[11:24] <LoRez> Seveas: then who opped it?  it doesn't op itself.
[11:24] <Flannel> mindeq: that shouldn't matter. actually.
[11:24] <BearPerson> LoRez, I did
[11:24] <mackinac> !question
[11:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:24] <LoRez> BearPerson: why?
[11:25] <BearPerson> wanted it to see the +z messages
[11:25] <apokryphos> LoRez: +mz was set before.
[11:25] <gozert> mindeq: you don't neccisarily have to do that, other configurations will work, what i mentioned is just a "safe route"
[11:25] <mindeq> hm in one site there is written manual , but firstly they install ubuntu, then xp ..
[11:25] <DJ_Gentoo> ...
[11:25] <DJ_Gentoo> oh good, I'm allowed in
[11:25] <LoRez> apokryphos: I wasn't asking about +mz
[11:25] <Flannel> mindeq: that'll work, but you'll have to reinstall grub after windows wipes it out
[11:25] <gozert> s/will/can/
[11:25] <apokryphos> LoRez: as in, the bot can see the messages if it's opped and +z is set.
[11:25] <mindeq> hm
[11:25] <Flannel> !dualboot | mindeq
[11:25] <ubotu> mindeq: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:26] <BearPerson> LoRez, nothing to see here, seems people were too stupid to make +z affect +R too
[11:26] <LoRez> BearPerson: meh
[11:26] <alecjw> hi. when i open the report wizzard in OOo bvase, it jsut shows an empty ewindow asking for a title, whereas it should give me a wizzard.
[11:26] <ahave> what are other text editors other than vi?
[11:26] <ahave> i am having trouble with vi
[11:27] <moreati> ahave: nano
[11:27] <Flannel> ahave: for terminal?  try nano.  for GUI, gedit or kate for gnome and kde, or mousepad for xfce
[11:27] <gyaresu_> ahave: Have you tried 'vimtutor'
[11:27] <apokryphos> EVERYONE: if you haven't already, please register your nickname to speak at this time. Instructions at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:27] <DJ_Gentoo> alec, that's supposed t ohappen
[11:27] <corevette> what command starts apache2?
[11:27] <mindeq> m_billybob when u'll be available just say d;-) Flannel k looking there
[11:27] <gyaresu_> ahave: A vim tutorial.
[11:27] <awjazz> is my nickname now accepted?
[11:27] <DJ_Gentoo> apok, thanks for the notice
[11:27] <nalioth> ahave: aee is a simple one
[11:27] <Flannel> corevette: Apache2 will start automatically once you've installed it.
[11:27] <DJ_Gentoo> aw, yes
[11:27] <Seveas> BearPerson, can you please join #ubuntu-ops
[11:27] <nalioth> awjazz: accepted by who?
[11:27] <ahave> are these all included with ubuntu?
[11:27] <lightcap> corevette: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[11:27] <Flannel> corevette: but, to restart/stop/etc, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 [whatever] , where [whatever]  is start, stop, restart, and a few others
[11:27] <ahave> or do i need to install them
[11:27] <nalioth> !tell ahave about multiverse
[11:28] <alecjw> DJ_Gentoo, no, it's supposed to give me a wizzard which looks like this: http://inpics.net/tutorials/base2/basics50.html
[11:28] <Flannel> ahave: nano is included, and the GUI editor for your desktop will be included as well
[11:28] <gyaresu_> ahave: apt-cache search aee
[11:28] <nalioth> ahave: enable the universe and multiverse repos and you'll have over 30,000 programs to play with
[11:28] <mindeq> ok however , i can boot ubuntu using cd , and choosing from menu to boot from first hdd
[11:28] <mindeq> hm
[11:28] <DJ_Gentoo> is this just OOO in general?
[11:28] <DJ_Gentoo> on Ubuntu, it doesn't do that
[11:29] <DJ_Gentoo> and if you need a wizard...
[11:29] <Flannel> mindeq: er... what?  yes, you can do that.
[11:29] <DJ_Gentoo> :-/
[11:29] <gozert> POVaddct: still doesn't work (no dhcp lease) but no errors...
[11:29] <gozert> POVaddct: iwconfig shows this: "Link Quality=0/100  Signal level:-121 dBm  Noise level:-86 dBm"
[11:29] <POVaddct> gozert: hmmm
[11:29] <alecjw> DJ_Gentoo, so how do i make a report without it?
[11:29] <pbureau> gozert, WIFI?
[11:29] <gozert> POVaddct: i think link quality should be like 50/100 or more, right?
[11:29] <gozert> pbureau: yes
[11:30] <mindeq> Flannel ok let's say i'm ok now with ubuntu, but how to fix the grub ? that it would recognize ..
[11:30] <gozert> pbureau: AP with WPA2, AES encryption, 64 hex numbers key
[11:30] <pbureau> goban, iwconfig and iwlist -class network (in here is the card disabled? and does driver= xxx has a driver loaded)
[11:30] <Flannel> !grub | mindeq, first link
[11:30] <ubotu> mindeq, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:30] <gozert> (generated from /dev/random)
[11:30] <POVaddct> gozert: i cannot check now, but maybe the driver does not report it in wpa mode
[11:30] <hjmills> if somebody is not in a certain group will udev not work for them?
[11:30] <gozert> POVaddct: hm, maybe it's the WPA2 mode then?
[11:30] <marshall> hey guys
[11:30] <POVaddct> gozert: i dont have the machine here
[11:31] <pianoboy3333> I'm trying to get my left right/scroll buttons to do something, basically X doesn't see the left right scroll, which are buttons 6/7, it sees left click as 1, right click 3, middle click 2, scroll up 4, down 5, and side button 8, and left right scroll/click don't give a response in xev... help?
[11:31] <marshall> does anybody know how to configure libnotify to change where notifications appear?
[11:31] <POVaddct> gozert: maybe. i didnt test wpa2 at all, i have no AP with wpa2
[11:31] <pianoboy3333> marshall: that's controlled by the programmer
[11:31] <pbureau> gozert, I have noticed some drivers dont support WPA2 nor EAS encryption for some obscure reason.
[11:31] <jrib> pianoboy3333: are you using evdev?
[11:31] <pianoboy3333> jrib: don't think so
[11:32] <jrib> pianoboy3333: what mouse do you have?
[11:32] <marshall> pianoboy3333: what? which programmer? the person who programmed libnotify?
[11:32] <pianoboy3333> jrib: logitech G7'
[11:32] <gozert> pbureau: ok, i'll try WPA+WPA2 mode...
[11:32] <brussel> Is there a graphical app like the text based wyrd?
[11:32] <lukaswayne9> This is a strange problem:  Whenever I type shift backspace in a certain application, it doesn't backspace but prints BS.  The application is ULIPAD.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[11:32] <DJ_Gentoo> now that Freespire's based on Ubuntu... what should we call it? Ubire of Freebuntu?
[11:32] <POVaddct> pbureau: according to the docs in the driver source, the rt61 driver from ralink does support it (without wpa_supplicant)
[11:32] <pianoboy3333> marshall: no, the instructions for placement are in the source code of the program that calls libnotify
[11:32] <jrib> pianoboy3333: ok well I wrote a guide for the mx1000, it's on the ubuntu wiki.  You can probably read through it and see what is going on
[11:32] <marshall> pianoboy3333: so there is absolutely no way to make the notifications from gaim-libnotify appear in the upper right instead of the lower right
[11:32] <pbureau> gozert start with WPA PSK TKIP, then change it WPA-AES. then change it to WPA+WPA3
[11:32] <pbureau> WWPA2
[11:32] <marshall> pianoboy3333: ok
[11:33] <DJ_Gentoo> what the...
[11:33] <pianoboy3333> marshall:  if you... change libnotify, or gaim-libnotify
[11:33] <pianoboy3333> !netsplit
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[11:33] <alecjw> DJ_Gentoo, so any ideas?
[11:33] <DJ_Gentoo> nope
[11:33] <pbureau> POVaddct,  I have an RT61 and I had lots of issues with WPA PSK (why I switch for a BCM4036)
[11:33] <BearPerson> pianoboy3333, that wasn't a netsplit
[11:33] <DJ_Gentoo> I don't use OOO much
[11:33] <BearPerson> that was a bunch of spamming bots saying "goodbye"
[11:33] <pianoboy3333> BearPerson: ?
[11:33] <pianoboy3333> oh
[11:33] <DJ_Gentoo> figures...
[11:33] <apokryphos> EVERYONE: if you haven't already, please register your nickname to speak at this time. Instructions at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:34] <pianoboy3333> it's only /msg nickserv register <pass>
[11:34] <POVaddct> pbureau: i tested wpa(1)psk (so not aes encrypted) without any problems
[11:34] <DJ_Gentoo> but if someone's watching over your shoulder
[11:34] <pianoboy3333> then you need to identify each time you login
[11:34] <DJ_Gentoo> now's NOT the time to do it
[11:34] <hjmills> and dont forget the /!
[11:34] <DJ_Gentoo> the password isn't hidden
[11:34] <DJ_Gentoo> heh...
[11:35] <POVaddct> pbureau: i dont use the rt61pci driver, i use rt61 (from the ralink page)
[11:35] <CodyLoco> Hey is anyone here on Rogers in Canada?
[11:35] <barrett9h> Hi.  I installed mplayer from source, using checkinstall (which creates and installs a .deb).  Now every time I boot, the update manager shows up, telling me to upgrade mplayer.  How do I override it?
[11:35] <pbureau> POVaddct, okay... could be a different card (mine was an airlink 101 awlc3026t)
[11:35] <pianoboy3333> jrib: I tried that before, it didn't work...
[11:35] <DJ_Gentoo> msg NickServ REGISTER bananaphone... Man, that would get a +b...
[11:35] <pianoboy3333> jrib: there's no way for X to see those two buttons
[11:35] <DJ_Gentoo> I can tell that's a bot
[11:35] <POVaddct> pbureau: my card is a d-link dwl-g630 rev e2
[11:35] <hjmills> is udev groups based?
[11:35] <jrib> pianoboy3333: did you succesfully get X to use evdev with your mouse?
[11:36] <pbureau> POVaddct,  Oh I have one of those as well... I just used the NDISWRAPPER drivers.. :) worked fine
[11:36] <mindeq> ok i typed setup (hd0,0) .. it wrote grub .. succeded ... then i typed sudo fdisk -l , and see that bootable is sda5 (ntfs / windows)
[11:36] <pianoboy3333> jrib: I may have to look at it again, waht is evdev? a mouse driver?
[11:36] <nexousNET> I can download packages to a cd, put the cd in the ubuntu pc and install packages that way correct?
[11:36] <SDBolts21> vista is the best
[11:36] <jrib> pianoboy3333: yes
[11:36] <DJ_Gentoo> BOOO
[11:36] <thekidrio> yes nexous
[11:36] <pbureau> <- has 3 wifi cards sitting on table... I like the bcm4036 best, easy to install using fwcutter
[11:36] <nexousNET> thekidrio: k thanks..
[11:36] <Seveas> apokryphos, ?
[11:36] <Seveas> :)
[11:36] <POVaddct> pbureau: it is very important which hardware rev. the card is
[11:36] <mike-ekim> ps aux | grep start
[11:36] <thekidrio> just have to point your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <jrib> pianoboy3333: I'm pretty sure I remember someone on the forums claiming they got a g7 to work using that guide
[11:37] <nexousNET> k
[11:37] <pianoboy3333> ok...
[11:37] <POVaddct> pbureau: rev e2 is ralink, the others have totally different chipsets
[11:37] <thekidrio> google for local repository
[11:37] <pianoboy3333> jrib: is it a wiki, or forum howto
[11:37] <pbureau> POVaddct, yeah I know mine was(Dlink card) e2
[11:37] <jrib> pianoboy3333: it's a wiki
[11:37] <POVaddct> pbureau: you cant tell just from the card's name which chipset it is. its really mad...
[11:37] <Kajin> This might be a stupid question, but how do you run .run files?
[11:37] <awjazz> hi still having problems connecting using WEP - have tried different ways of entering key, just getting confused now... can anyone help me? or should i give up
[11:37] <Seveas> Kajin, chmod +x foo.run && ./foo.run
[11:37] <pbureau> POVaddct,  nope annoying...
[11:37] <jrib> pianoboy3333: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse
[11:37] <POVaddct> pbureau: i meant that
[11:37] <thekidrio> kajin, usually in a terminal and... yeah what seveas said heh
[11:38] <Kajin> Seveas: I see, thank you!
[11:38] <pianoboy3333> yep, got it
[11:38] <pbureau> POVaddct, why they inventet lspci
[11:38] <awjazz> thekidrio, you're still there
[11:38] <Kajin> Had to chmod it to be executable, ofcourse.
[11:38] <POVaddct> pbureau: yes :)
[11:38] <jrib> barrett9h: easiest way is to just name your checkinstall package something other than "mplayer"
[11:38] <Seveas> pbureau, try lshal | less
[11:38] <Seveas> :)
[11:38] <thekidrio> yeah awjazz
[11:38] <thekidrio> any luck?
[11:38] <awjazz> nope
[11:38] <Seveas> lshal kicks lspci's ass :)
[11:38] <corevette> how do i shutdown x?
[11:38] <thekidrio> did the restricted thing i take it?
[11:38] <ubuntu> POVaddct: sorry to leave abruptly, but my keyboard was stuck
[11:38] <awjazz> tried the 'restricted xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" thing
[11:38] <DJ_Gentoo> lspci... heh
[11:38] <awjazz> but nope
[11:38] <thekidrio> corvette forever?
[11:38] <jrib> corevette: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[11:38] <POVaddct> pbureau: but most shops won't let you try the card to detect the chipset
[11:38] <Seveas> corevette, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:39] <awjazz> is ubuntu just like this?
[11:39] <DJ_Gentoo> to shutdown X, corv
[11:39] <ubuntu> POVaddct: it kept pressing 'c', even after attaching another keyboard
[11:39] <DJ_Gentoo> use Ctrl+Alt+F7
[11:39] <thekidrio> not sure, there are linux wide wep problems
[11:39] <DJ_Gentoo> oh wait...
[11:39] <POVaddct> ubuntu: hmm
[11:39] <DJ_Gentoo> ctrl+alt+F2
[11:39] <DJ_Gentoo> sorry
[11:39] <thekidrio> heh
[11:39] <barrett9h> jrib: will try, thanks
[11:39] <awjazz> so how come it just works in windows
[11:39] <mindeq> the problem with boot agent is that it tryes to boot link ... i mean it searches for network, and then when it doesn't find it, it just write "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable" and "PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel boot aganet"
[11:39] <thekidrio> they built drivers for windows heh
[11:39] <DJ_Gentoo> who doesnt
[11:39] <thekidrio> windows has a lot of sway with hardware vendors
[11:40] <awjazz> is there a chance i could use my windows driver - i read something about network wrapping
[11:40] <DJ_Gentoo> monopolists these days...
[11:40] <thekidrio> yes awjazz
[11:40] <DJ_Gentoo> there might be
[11:40] <thekidrio> you can try it
[11:40] <DJ_Gentoo> wireless?
[11:40] <thekidrio> its called ndiswraper
[11:40] <pianoboy3333> jrib: oh right, I remember my problem, I have two entries in /proc/bus/input/devices labled logitech usb reciever
[11:40] <thekidrio> yeah its wireless gentoo
[11:40] <DJ_Gentoo> type lspci -n and tell us the results
[11:40] <brussel> Why does Wyrd say it can't read file ~/.reminders? Doesn't it have the brains to create it if it's not there!?
[11:40] <jrib> pianoboy3333: do you have one of those keyboard mouse combos?
[11:40] <thekidrio> jazz  cant connect with WEP enabled
[11:40] <ViPER^-> Is there a way to apt-get install newer kernels?
[11:40] <brussel> Or is this another ubuntu bug
[11:40] <awjazz> but if the card works anyway and the problem is just wep is it worth having a new driver
[11:40] <pianoboy3333> jrib: what do you mean?
[11:41] <cafuego_> ViPER^-: Up to a certain point.
[11:41] <DJ_Gentoo> or, try NDISWrapper... or has someone said that?
[11:41] <jrib> pianoboy3333: like a wireless logitech keyboard that was bundled with your mouse
[11:41] <mindeq> k see ya all tomorrow
[11:41] <thekidrio> not sure awjazz, it can be a driver problem
[11:41] <awjazz> you'd think it was an ubuntu networking diologue problem
[11:41] <cafuego_> ViPER^-: if you want the latest-greatest you'll need to compile 'em yourself.
[11:41] <pianoboy3333> jrib: oh, oh, no
[11:41] <awjazz> well at the moment it's just using default driver
[11:41] <thekidrio> if the driver not sending the info correctly
[11:41] <ViPER^-> cafuego_, okay i only want 2.6.19 or something. :)
[11:41] <gozert> POVaddct: sorry, forgot to change nick
[11:41] <thekidrio> then it will be whacked when it gets to hardware abstraction layer
[11:41] <pianoboy3333> jrib: there's only one reciever on my system, but it came with a dock that's also usb
[11:41] <awjazz> my linux is running on the same hard drive as windows
[11:41] <cafuego_> ViPER^-: that's old - don't do that ;-)
[11:42] <ViPER^-> old?
[11:42] <POVaddct> gozert: doesnt matter, i recognized you :)
[11:42] <pianoboy3333> jrib: so the reciever is attached to the dock, which is attached to my monitor, which is attached to my computer
[11:42] <gozert> POVaddct: ok :D
[11:42] <cafuego_> ViPER^-: 2.6.20 was released earlier this week (or was that last week?)
[11:42] <Crescendo> Is Flash9 final for Ubuntu in the official repositories yet?
[11:42] <Crescendo> :/
[11:42] <Flannel> Crescendo: backports
[11:42] <DJ_Gentoo> a q:
[11:42] <ViPER^-> Well i can take that also..
[11:42] <jrib> pianoboy3333: oh I see.  You can probably match by event# or input# then (I forget which one).  Or you culd even play with udev
[11:42] <awjazz> i have the driver cd, but i read on the ndiswrapper web site that i need to install some other windows thing first otherwise it wont work
[11:42] <crazy_penguin> Good Night everyone! Sleep well!
[11:42] <pianoboy3333> jrib: what's udev?
[11:42] <DJ_Gentoo> I'm upgrading to Edgy. Has anyone had experience with a Belkin F5D7010 WNIC on Edgy?
[11:43] <ViPER^-> cafuego, hard to compile a new kernel?
[11:43] <brussel> Yep, Wyrd doesn't work with ubuntu because ubuntu has issues, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wyrd/+bug/68152
[11:43] <pianoboy3333> oh, udev
[11:43] <hjmills> is udev groups based?
[11:43] <gyaresu_> crazy_penguin: It's 9:30am. I just woke up :)
[11:43] <pianoboy3333> jrib: well, if I unplug the dock for now, and just put in the reciever, can I get what I need?
[11:43] <pianoboy3333> then I put it back after
[11:44] <gozert> POVaddct: thank you very much!!!! it should work now!!!
[11:44] <unska> how can i set nvidia to handle opengl? no the xorg-11 handles it (or something like that)
[11:44] <gozert> POVaddct: the trick was to set the router to WPA+WPA2 mode
[11:44] <unska> which makes my beryl go white bug
[11:44] <POVaddct> gozert: aha!
[11:44] <jrib> pianoboy3333: what do you mean "what I need"?  When you start your computer evdev will try to work with the thing named "Logitech foo whatever"
[11:44] <gozert> POVaddct: now i get an IP address :) i'm gonna try, so i /may/ ping timeout
[11:44] <pianoboy3333> jrib: SOMETHING is seriously weird, I have two entries for my keyboard also, which is plugged directly into the back of my computer
[11:45] <jrib> pianoboy3333: yeah sounds strange
[11:45] <pianoboy3333> jrib: could hyperthreading do this?
[11:45] <hjmills> unska, white borders? try the beryl forums - lots of solutions for that
[11:45] <unska> the search is down =(
[11:46] <jrib> pianoboy3333: no idea, I have to go now though.  If you don't get it to work using event/input# I can try to troubleshoot later
[11:46] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here have a icon for mobile devices in svg?
[11:46] <Fanskapet> a good looking one :)
[11:46] <hjmills> unska, try setting Advanced Beryl options>Rendering Path>Copy in beryl-manager
[11:46] <hairulf1> Mjello all
[11:46] <hjmills> unska, thats what worked for me
[11:46] <corevette> how do you downgrade something?  lets just say berl
[11:46] <hjmills> how do i let anybody run halt?
[11:47] <corevette> beryl
[11:47] <sylpheedClaws> a question I'm just throwing out: has anyone tried to get the Metisse desktop to work on Ubuntu?
[11:47] <gozert2> i havent ping timeout'ed yet :D
[11:47] <maquivex> Metisse desktop?
[11:47] <POVaddct> gozert2: good :)
[11:47] <gozert2> POVaddct: talking wirelessly to you now :) :) :)
[11:47] <unska> hjmills, where exactly is this advanced beryl options?
[11:48] <sylpheedClaws> right click the Beryl icon
[11:48] <hjmills> unska, right click on the beryl icon in the taskbar (run beryl-manager to get it up i think)
[11:48] <gozert2> also thanks to the person who suggested that wpa2 could be a problem
[11:48] <gozert2> dont know who that was
[11:48] <tuxedup> I am trying to get my ntfs formatted sata drive to mount.  I have added it to my fstab but when i run mount /dev/sdb1 it gives me [mntent] : line 7 in /etc/fstab is bad     mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:48] <gyaresu_> hjmills: visudo. I believe you can add the user and the command.
[11:48] <gozert2> POVaddct: good night :)
[11:48] <tuxedup> the line i have in my fstab reads /dev/sdb1      /media/windows    ntfs    noauto,users,exec,umask=0000 0 0
[11:48] <hairulf1> can a faulty or badly configured GRUB result in "NLTDR not found"? I get it sometimes, but only when the computer's been of for five or six hours and is cold
[11:48] <POVaddct> gozert2: gute nacht nach holland :] 
[11:48] <hjmills> gyaresu_, thanks
[11:49] <brussel> Anybody have suggestions for personal scheduling/calendering software on ubuntu?
[11:49] <gozert2> POVaddct: gute nacht im deutschland :)
[11:49] <boricua> help passwd
[11:49] <variant> brussel: there are a few options..
[11:49] <sylpheedClaws> bori, ?
[11:49] <variant> !webdav
[11:49] <unska> hjmills, that was a bad bad bad idea
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webdav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <variant> pff
[11:49] <unska> everything turned greenish
[11:49] <brussel> variant: What are the top 3?
[11:49] <unska> and extremely bad graphics
[11:50] <sylpheedClaws> boricua: ...yeah
[11:50] <sylpheedClaws> *yeah?
[11:50] <sylpheedClaws> as in "you were saying...?"
[11:50] <hjmills> unska, why
[11:50] <hjmills> ?
[11:50] <eXistenZ> How can I change the colors of highlighting folders in the terminal?
[11:50] <unska> i turned it to "Copy"
[11:50] <unska> how can i set nvidia as the opengl?
[11:50] <unska> currently my xorg-11 does the opengl
[11:50] <unska> or thats what i read from forums
[11:51] <hjmills> unska, oh - sorry - it worked for me - try using google to search the beryl forums (site:beryl-forums site whatever that is)
[11:51] <sylpheedClaws> @boricua: you were saying something about passwd?
[11:51] <gyaresu_> How do I get the list of 'recommends' on an already installed package? e.g. apt-cache recommends evolution
[11:51] <boricua> sylpheedClaws, how do you change it for freenode in xchat
[11:51] <sylpheedClaws> supertux recommends to be forked?
[11:51] <hjmills> gyaresu_, any idea how i would edit that file from a different os on the same machine? i have it mounted
[11:52] <sylpheedClaws> you can try /msg NickServ HELP
[11:52] <sylpheedClaws> it'll give you a list of useful commands
[11:52] <gyaresu_> hjmills: Different OS in other partition eh? Can't just start it up and run it?
[11:52] <sylpheedClaws> or maybe /msg NickServ SET would do the trick
[11:53] <hjmills> gyaresu_, well its a media pc and so it boots to that pretty interface and i was hoping to sort it from here - i can do that if i have to
[11:53] <high-freq> anyone know the file i set my locale in
[11:53] <nrdb> I have found what I think is a problem with wget, if you download a file from a website that is hosted with a dynamic dns service and the ip address changes, wget doesn't do a dns lookup when trying to reconnect, and never finds the new IP of the host website.
[11:53] <gyaresu_> hjmills: 'vi /etc/sudoers' but there is a reason for 'visudo' (just can't remember what it is)
[11:53] <MonsieurBon> anyone knows wmctrl?
[11:54] <gyaresu_> hjmills: or: 'vi /mnt/hdaX/etc/sudoers'
[11:54] <hjmills> gyaresu_, thanks
[11:54] <[aH] Drew> I'm running Ubuntu Desktop on my server system. I'd like to set it up as a server. Could anyone suggest a tutorial on upgrading ubuntu desktop to server?
[11:56] <EnsignRedshirt> gyaresu_: visudo will check the syntax of the file before saving it.  A bad sudoers file could be very bad.
[11:56] <gyaresu_> high-freq: 'locales -a' Will list it. Not sure how to set in Ubuntu...
[11:56] <Lice> My server does not find my AGP network card..
[11:56] <Lice> what is there to do about it?
[11:56] <high-freq> k thx
[11:56] <gyaresu_> EnsignRedshirt: Ah. Thanks. | hjmills
[11:57] <Lice> or maybe it isnt agp sorry
[11:57] <nrdb> [aH] Drew: as far as I know the only difference is in the packages loaded by default, I have my ubuntu desktop serving a few different things to my LAN.
[11:57] <gyaresu_> hjmills: So don't screw it up :)
[11:57] <Lice> I ment isa network card
[11:57] <hairulf1> Lice: Since AGP is Accelerated Graphics Port you're probably right :)
[11:57] <gyaresu_> hjmills: 'visudo -f /etc/hdaX/etc/sudoers'
[11:58] <hjmills> gyaresu_, oh brilliant - thanks
[11:58] <gozert2> have a nice day (or night) everyone!
[11:58] <bayziders> Is there a Ubuntu freindly flash plug in for firefox?
[11:58] <Lice> hairulf1 i ment ISA ^^
[11:58] <hairulf1> bayziders: Yes
[11:58] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[11:58] <sylpheedClaws> use FireFox's "manual install" option
[11:59] <hjmills> EnsignRedshirt, thanks for the visudo help
[11:59] <sylpheedClaws> when it says it's missing a plugin
[11:59] <bayziders> It is a windows plug in thou
[11:59] <yellowdart> bayziders, download from adobe.com
[11:59] <sylpheedClaws> go to the site, use the .tar.gz
[11:59] <Flannel> !flash | bayziders
[11:59] <ubotu> bayziders: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:59] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:59] <Lice> It says it could not detect my card and asked if i use firewire
[11:59] <sylpheedClaws> it is?
[11:59] <sylpheedClaws> w00t
[11:59] <hairulf1> bayziders: Or check www.ubuntuguide.org and get easyubuntu, that'll do it for you
[11:59] <bayziders> Can I apt get it?
[11:59] <sylpheedClaws> yes
[11:59] <Flannel> bayziders: flash9 is in backports, and there's also a -plugin package for FF.
[11:59] <sylpheedClaws> if it's backported
[11:59] <EnsignRedshirt> hjmills: No problem.  (/me will gladly take credit for something he didn't do :)
[11:59] <Flannel> otherwise, flash7 is in the regular repositories (also with a -plugin) for FF
[12:00] <bayziders> But is there a apt get or not for it?
[12:00] <Flannel> bayziders: yes.  If it's in the repositories, you can get it from apt-get
[12:00] <sylpheedClaws> YES
[12:00] <cafuego_> bayziders: yes, there is.
[12:00] <yellowdart> bayziders, not for flash 9
[12:00] <Flannel> yellowdart: yes for flash9
[12:00] <padlefot> its in the backports
[12:00] <bayziders> Whats the respatory and whats the command to get it
[12:00] <yellowdart> Flannel, i wasnt aware.. that's cool
[12:01] <sylpheedClaws> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-plugin
[12:01] <sylpheedClaws> cmiiw
[12:01] <padlefot> sudo apt-cache search flash
[12:01] <gyaresu_> !repos > bayziders
[12:01] <bayziders> both of them?
[12:01] <josue_m> hi, it is good idea to use LVM over a 6discs physical raid-5 in a new installation?
[12:01] <sylpheedClaws> if one doesn't work
[12:01] <sylpheedClaws> try the other