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fribuntuslyfox: video:vesa=off vga=normal12:16
jmichaelxcould anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.)12:17
slyfoxfribuntu: where is it done again? in my /boot/grub/menu.lst    there is no vesa12:17
fribuntuslyfox: just add it12:17
fribuntuslyfox: in the same line where the "vga" is12:17
slyfoxfribuntu: kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash video:vesa=off vga=normal             ?12:18
fribuntuslyfox: yep12:18
slyfoxrebooting12:18
fribuntugood luck12:18
Minatakuxenol: Give me .012:18
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MinatakuI don't see anything in that one12:18
xenolMinataku: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4774/12:19
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Minatakuxenol: Crap... I don't see anything there12:20
MinatakuSorry, I have to go eat12:20
xenolnp12:20
jmichaelxcould anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/12:20
parkerw207help guys12:20
MinatakuGood luck, xenol12:20
xenolwell if i turn pc off with button can it dmg sumthing?12:20
parkerw207says it cannot burn my cd :(12:20
xenolty Minataku12:20
parkerw207says cdrecord has no permission to open the device12:21
jmichaelxparkerw207: use k3b instead, and run it as root12:21
parkerw207how do i run it as root ?12:21
jmichaelx'sudo k3b'12:22
spitwisewould sudo chmod 777 /usr/bin/k3b of sorts work to give permissions?12:22
jmichaelxyeah, i think it would12:22
spitwisethen user can could run it12:22
parkerw207now its borning12:23
parkerw207or burning*12:23
parkerw207or doing something lol12:23
lupine_85spitwise: no, it wouldn't12:23
lupine_85that'd be a baaaad idea12:24
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lupine_85the user probably needs adding to the cdrom or media group (see what group /dev/cdrom or other appropriate device file is in)12:24
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slyfoxfribuntu: nothing, smae problem12:24
lupine_85making /anything/ xx7 is a bad idea...12:24
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roman2006hi12:25
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coreymon77guys12:25
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coreymon77i have 3 packages that have been held back for some reason12:25
coreymon77why is that?12:25
slyfoxcoreymon77: details12:26
coreymon77linux-headers-generic linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38612:26
coreymon77those are the packages12:27
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tazzwhen i type 'sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin' it says "bash: ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin: Permission denied"12:27
coreymon77i type sudo apt-get upgrade12:27
coreymon77and it says the following packages have been held back12:27
tazzwhat am i doing wrong?12:27
coreymon77linux-headers-generic linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38612:27
slyfoxcoreymon77: do sudo-apt get update first12:27
jmichaelxcould anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and democracyplayer crash my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/12:27
slyfoxcoreymon77: the do sudo-apt get autoremove12:27
fribuntuslyfox: well, I am out of options then. Sorry.12:27
jmichaelxcoreymon77: i am having the same problem12:28
tazzcoreymon77: try apt-get clean12:28
jmichaelxahh12:28
fribuntuslyfox: You can try to start some other live distro like knoppix and see if you can switch there.12:28
jottslyfox: slyfox try to install vbetool then do "sudo vbetool vbemode get" and use the value returned as vga=nnn12:28
slyfoxfribuntu: so is everyone else I spoke with. Man at least in the Windows world everything was known.. here it is a dark night12:28
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fribuntuslyfox: and then you can find out what makes knoppix different from your config.12:28
coreymon77no use12:28
slyfoxfribuntu: My Konsole did work before fine in Kubuntu12:28
cpk1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 regarding the update issue!12:28
fribuntuslyfox: so what have you changed when it did stop working?12:29
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fribuntuslyfox: you must have done something. Consoles do not magically turn of or something.12:29
coreymon77tazz: didnt work12:29
slyfoxfribuntu: that is the million dollar question.  I suspect it maybe was Beryl and nvidia 9xxx series12:29
coreymon77tazz: same thing happened12:30
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slyfoxfribuntu: console does work fine in X session12:30
jottfribuntu: well i had quite the same issue with the nvidia driver .. but setting the vga=... helped for me at least..12:30
fribuntuslyfox: Oh and by the way, you are free to uninstall any Linux and reinstall Windows, if you like. But telling us that a windows console mode is working better than linux is kind of funny.12:30
coreymon77slyfox: your suggestions didnt help12:30
jottand not all vesa modes worked for me...12:30
underdog5004whoa...I missed that one!12:31
underdog5004lol12:31
jottslyfox: maybe give the vbetool a try..but i can't promise anything ;)12:31
slyfoxfribuntu: nah, I am not talking about console, I am talking in general, it would be known by now what causes this problem, here no one has a clue after a few suggestions do not work12:31
underdog5004no way is command prompt better than bash/konsole/etc...12:31
geniiunderdog5004: Heya12:31
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slyfoxcoreymon77: don't know ask someone else, I am jsut a noob to be honest12:31
fribuntuslyfox: I have never touched beryl, compiz and all that 3D stuff.12:31
slyfoxfribuntu: yeah, good choice12:31
slyfoxjott: let me see12:31
fribuntuslyfox: Well, be my guest. Uninstall Linux, reinstall Windows. Be a happy bunny.12:31
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coreymon77dumb bunny too12:32
fribuntuslyfox: Linux is not obligatory.12:32
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slyfoxfribuntu: no I am not going back to WIndows12:32
fribuntuslyfox: You can also pay someone to install it for you so it works.12:32
underdog5004hey genii long time no see...12:32
slyfoxjott: sudo vbetool vbemode get  you sure? I get this - 3277112:32
sorush20anyone here know how to fix the blue rotating box problem with fgl_glxgears12:32
fribuntuslyfox: Or you could pack up your stuff and visit one of your local Linux user groups.12:32
fribuntuslyfox: It is hard to do suport via IRC or mail only.12:32
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fribuntuslyfox: when the problem gets more complex.12:33
slyfoxfribuntu: I think I just will reinstall12:33
slyfoxKubutnu completely12:33
jmichaelxslyfox: i may be reinstalling , too:(12:33
fribuntuslyfox: oh well, you should know that procedure from your windows days :)12:33
sorush20http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7507/pantallazopbufferglxgears6tk.png12:33
slyfoxjmichaelx: why you ?12:33
jottslyfox: oh i see this seems to be the mode currently on the console not on X..hmmm... :/12:33
elyonCould someone tell me why Adept is telling me to upgrade the linux kernel headers, but when I try to, it will break dependencies?12:33
cpk1elyon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35640812:34
jmichaelxsounds dumb, but i cannot sort out this problem with playing videos12:34
underdog5004slyfox, yeah, it's pretty easy, esp. if you've got a seperate /home partition12:34
fribuntuslyfox: While I am sure it is not necessary, since there is this nice "purge" option for package removal, it might be the fastest solution for you.12:34
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jottslyfox: i can really imagine its a vesa issue :p mind to try the vga=838 I use?! ;-)12:34
slyfoxfribuntu: I will purge Kubuntu, since I have no idea what else to purge besides Beryl12:34
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slyfoxjott: ok, I will be back in 15 minutes and will talk.12:34
slyfoxunderdog5004: I dont, I will get one now though thsi tie around12:35
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slyfoxOK. Brb in 15 min.12:35
fribuntujott: I do not think it is a vesa issue, because the issue prevails even when vesa is disabled.12:35
underdog5004slyfox, yeah, it kicks ass...12:35
jottfribuntu: i had the very same problem and setting to textmode did not help..12:36
elyoncpk1: That helps.  Thank you :)12:36
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elyon...thought I was doing something wrong12:36
fribuntujott: but disabling vesa rules out vesa as the troublemaker. If it indeed gets disabled that is.12:36
jottfribuntu: actually the textmode he uses is vesa mode 32771 ;)12:36
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cpk1elyon: looks like we all just need some patience till the package maintainers get it worked out12:36
underdog5004yeah, in the mean time, I am _not_ gonna restart my computer...lol12:37
elyoncpk1: I can handle that... just was worried I messed something up.  But if it's happening to everyone, I'm okay with that ;)12:37
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fribuntujott: video:vesa=off should disable it.12:38
fribuntujott: and that's what he did.12:38
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Legolas_FaolI'm a newbie, how can I install Java on my kubuntu?12:38
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Legolas_Faolwhen apt-get install sun-java5 doesn't work12:39
jottfribuntu: http://pastebin.ca/345967 ;-)12:39
Legolas_Faolwhen i run apt-get install sun-java5 doesn't work12:39
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jott(see the funny x/y resolution ;-)12:39
cpk1Legolas_Faol: do you have the correct repository enabled?12:39
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Legolas_Faolyes, all 4 repositories12:40
Legolas_Faolbut12:40
Legolas_Faolwhen it's fast installed he asks me to press "OK" but i can't press it12:40
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sorush20I have just install a new install of kubuntu and I want to backup this stage of my root partition on a new partition so that I can always just recover if anything goes wrong is there a way?12:41
flaccidLegolas_Faol: why does it not work?12:41
fribuntujott: Was soll mir das sagen?12:41
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tishperdon los  canales espaoles?12:41
Legolas_Faolflaccid:  when it's fast installed it asks me to press "OK" but i can't press it12:41
flaccidLegolas_Faol: what are you using to install it?12:41
tishgracias12:42
tishxD12:42
Legolas_Faolboth apt-get and adept12:42
cpk1Legolas_Faol: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf and then choose kde and then pick high12:42
julioyo hablo espanol12:42
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tishperdon  para alluda a un espaol?12:42
cpk1!es | tish12:42
ubotutish: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:42
underdog5004!es12:42
onePLZ help how could i switch this off ? Last login: Fri Feb  9 00:30:47 2007 from my IP on ssh on remote server ?12:42
jottfribuntu: that 32771 (so 80x25 textmode) seems to be handled as a "vesa mode" by the nvidia chip set and I suppose there is a bug in the nvidia driver that causes trouble switching to X and to some vesa modes with some chipset combinations or what ever it causes12:42
flaccidone: why would you wnt to?12:43
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cpk1Legolas_Faol: after you do that do sudo apt-get -f install12:43
oneflaccid its a remote server and i dont want to save my login ip12:43
cpk1Legolas_Faol: the wiki explains all this... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java12:43
user__can someone help me setup my sata drives?12:43
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flaccidone: why?12:44
user__please?12:44
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fribuntujott: well, he claims it worked fine before twiddling with 3D crap. So I have my doubts it is a bug. Maybe a misconfiguration.12:44
one <one> flaccid its a remote server and i dont want to save my login ip12:44
flaccidwhy do you not want to save your last login IP ?12:45
user__does anyone here know how to setup sata drives?12:45
jottfribuntu: possibly.. but i had the same problem until i found a vesa mode that worked... so it's not a unique problem description...12:45
cpk1he haxxored them gibson?12:45
cpk1and now plague is chasing after him?12:45
jottfribuntu: or not call it vesa mode but video mode (including text mode)12:45
oneflaccid it is a server in a computer centre and i dont wanna that they could see my logins from which ip12:45
fribuntujott: Whatever :)12:46
oneflaccid sure they an sniff them but i dont wanna it saved on the server ;-(12:46
flaccidthen don't give them root to your server12:46
fribuntujott: It is so frustrating when ppl come up with that silly "Windows works" poo12:46
fribuntujott: It makes my good will shrivel up :)12:47
oneflaccid but there is the option remote serial console and i think they have their backdoor to look on the files/scripts12:47
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jottfribuntu: hehe well i have see a couple of nvidia related bluescreens ;) ...12:47
oneflaccid plz just tell my how to turn it off *G*12:47
flaccidi don't know how to12:47
championhow do people normally use linux print servers off linux over a network in a secure fashion?12:47
championhow does authentication work12:47
flaccidone: wouldn't you want it on so you can track when they login and do stuff? or would you just let them do whatever...12:48
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flaccidchampion: usually with samba printer share12:48
championflaccid: but passwords are passed around in the cleartext format12:48
sleepy745where is thunderbird located in the menu?12:48
fribuntujott: I buy NVidia hardware, because it has rather good Linux support, although it is closed source. I could never get ATI drivers running.12:48
championflaccid: that's platform independent stupidity12:48
oneflaccid no i enabled firewall only 3ports open and the ssh port is not 22 and very good pw12:48
jottfribuntu: the claim "windows works" is just wrong...12:48
flaccidchampion: not if you configure samba to use encrypted passwords12:48
fribuntujott: I'd go Intel, but I like to play the ocasional 3D game ...12:49
championflaccid: okay, how about linux to windows then?12:49
flaccidchampion: you don't know what you are talking about.12:49
flaccidyes samba is an smb server for *nix12:49
championyes i know that12:49
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jottfribuntu: i do 3d development and gpu stuff so i need a good gpu too ;-)12:49
flaccidyou can also do whatever authentication and encryption you want...12:49
oneflaccid so how i switch it of ?12:49
fribuntujott: of course it is wrong. In the end of the day, no system "just works". It needs skillful configuration and then users that don't act like total morons.12:49
flaccidkerberos, tdb, sam etc.12:49
championflaccid: how does samba pass credentials through winbind to cups then?12:50
flaccidone: [10:51]  <flaccid> i don't know how to12:50
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oneflaccid lol ;-P12:50
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flaccidi don't use windbind. go learn samba: http://samba.org12:50
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user__can somone please help me mount my sata drives?12:50
championflaccid: it's winbind12:50
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jottfribuntu: yes .. especially when people mess around without knowing what they are doing .. then everything brakes and they complain :p12:51
samiam010203user_why wont your drives mount12:51
cpk1user__: it would be sudo mount /dev/s*# /media/somefolder12:51
flaccidchampion: like i said you get can do it many ways. you don't need to use winbind...12:51
coreymon77huys12:51
cpk1or i guess /dev/sd*12:51
coreymon77one thing12:51
flaccidyou can configure samba server to use it if you want to12:51
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jottfribuntu: and linux invites to mess around ;)12:51
coreymon77if you did install the working parts of the kernel updates12:51
jmichaelxcould anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and democracyplayer crash my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/12:51
fribuntujott: It is build for tinkering :)12:51
coreymon77because you didnt know about the broken ones12:51
fribuntujott: But I do that on a second non-productive system.12:51
coreymon77is it okay to restart your computer12:52
coreymon77or can i not do that until the problem is fixed12:52
championflaccid: google came up with this post on the ubuntu forums, but it's not answered, so i don't know: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35365412:52
sleepy745!thunderbird12:52
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042712:52
flaccidchampion: there is samba.org and #samba. start learning.12:52
user__thanks cpk, but what is the list command again?12:53
championflaccid: what do you mean by learning? that's useless advice12:53
user__sry its been awhile since ive been on linux12:53
cpk1coreymon77: does  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 say anything about it?12:53
flaccidchampion: i'm not going to give you a solution. you read the documentation. thus you will learn how to configure samba.12:53
championflaccid: i clearly understand it, but from what i have gathered ubuntu linux and cups and samba don't play nice with windows12:53
fribuntujott: You do not by any chance have a CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller audio device?12:53
jottfribuntu: yep it fine to mess around but it's somewhat unreflected to complain when something breakes afterwards..imho.. :)12:53
championflaccid: if you don't *know* how to, that's fine, but pretending like you do and telling me to "RTFM" doesn't help12:54
fribuntujott: and then use that for recording and tell me what settings I need to tweak to get a nasty beep cleared out when trying to record via mic?12:54
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flaccidchampion: they do if you configure them correctly. i have it set up at home and work mixed environment no problem12:54
jottfribuntu: do you use kmix for mixing?12:54
fribuntujott: I have tried both, kmix and alsamixer.12:54
flaccidchampion: i pointed you to the resources. i don't have time to spoon feed you.12:54
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championflaccid: do you passwords in cleartext? how do you authenticate? helping me out with specifics follows, but it's easier to transition by starting at a higher level of concepts12:55
user__cpk1?12:55
elyonIs it possible to remove the Konqueror web browser without removing the file browser?12:55
jottfribuntu: ok.. because kmix is somewhat broken and the patch i proposed was more or less ignored :p12:55
fribuntujott: It is not a general problem. When I skype for example, my voice is crystal clear.12:55
championflaccid: yeah, it's like saying: here's the internet go figure it out. it's not helpful. if it was, i would have figured it out already.12:55
flaccidchampion: read the howtos on samba.org. they detail all this.12:55
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flaccidchampion: don't be lazy.12:55
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julioen que te puedosomebody can help me?12:55
championflaccid: not how to get cups to work with samba without sending smb://user:pass@server/printer type format12:55
cpk1user__: have you tried mounting your sata drives at *all*?12:55
jottfribuntu: so maybe you need a fixed sampling rate?12:55
fribuntujott: tried that.12:56
flaccidchampion: its there.12:56
user__lol, nooooo i havent.  ive mounted b4, but that was a long time ago, and they were ide12:56
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flaccidand using smb:// is platform dependent12:56
championflaccid: printing doesn't seem to be supported, if you can prove me otherwise, i'll gladly read it12:56
championflaccid: yes so what does that have to do with anything?12:56
flaccid!cups12:56
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:56
flaccidthere you go12:56
flaccidproved otherwise...12:56
jottfribuntu: have you tried something like cat /dev/audio > bla.raw and pipe it back into the dsp?12:57
championflaccid: the issue is getting winbind credentials to work with cups12:57
fribuntujott: I did a frequency analysis and I can say the beep is in the lower kHz range (1.3 - 5.5) and rather annoying.12:57
jott(like the low level approach ;)12:57
user__i just got this new pc, and getting it all up and ready, but i need to get them mounted so i can test them if i have to return the droves by tomorrow12:57
flaccidconversation over. go read the resources i pointed you to.12:57
cpk1user__: ok so you sata drives will be /dev/sd* (sda sdb sdc and etc) to mount one you would have to have made a directory somewhere where you want to mount it and then do sudo mount /dev/sd* /some/dir/i/made12:57
championflaccid: i know what cups is, i've read all the pertinent documentation. if you claim to have a setup in which passwords aren't sent in cleartext, please tell me, but telling me to read cups.org or samba.org is not helpful12:57
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fribuntujott: I can record ok, it is just distorted and has that beep. Quite annoying.12:57
flaccidchampion: too bad.12:58
jottfribuntu: hmm.. really strange ..have you checked the alsa wiki?12:58
jottthere are alot of options you can tweak in the alsa.conf12:58
jott(like buffer settings etc etc)12:58
user__crappppppppp.... i totally forget how to do that.  is there a read thru somewhere?12:59
user__man... its been too long12:59
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getafixcan anyone tell me why adept updater is telling me the package database is being used by another programme when there is nothing else open?12:59
jottalsa has quite a bad documentation... :/12:59
cpk1user__: i just told you how...12:59
user__i cant even rember the list command, something like -l or something12:59
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user__lol, yah, but i need to knoe the drive names, whats thie list command again?01:00
onewhich is the best/easiest irc deamon for linux with ssl supporT ?01:00
fribuntujott: I did check there and tweaked the settings a bit. But the problem remains. I asekd here on the #alsa channel, but I did not even get an answer to my "Hi", let alone to my question.01:00
user__-ls?01:00
getafixis there anyway I can tell what app or process is using the packaging system database?01:01
jottfribuntu: yep there are not many supportive ppl in #alsa ..i guess no core devs and such..01:01
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zblachquick question. i have an embedded ricoh camera that doesn't seem to be supported by v4l. what can I do about it?01:01
user__sry cpk1, thank you for the patience though, ill refer to those commands, but what is the list command?01:01
fribuntujott: And I am too impatient for email or newsgroup support :)01:01
coreymon77guys01:01
coreymon77this is urgent01:01
coreymon77how do i roll bacjk01:02
coreymon77to the working drivers01:02
cpk1user__: try sudo lshw to find out the logical names of your sata drives01:02
fribuntucoreymon77: What do you mean?01:02
jottfribuntu: and you are sure that it's not some kind of mechanical/physical problem? like feedback/electro static fields?01:02
fribuntucoreymon77: Please elaborate.01:02
coreymon77okay01:02
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jott(as skype may filter some frequency bands)01:03
fribuntujott: As I said, skype is working like a charm, when I call the audio test.01:03
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coreymon77i ran apt-get upgrade01:03
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coreymon77and unknowingly did the partial upgrade of the kernel files01:03
coreymon77now i have three kernel files unmet01:03
coreymon77if i restart now01:03
user__sweet, that worked01:03
coreymon77it will lock up my system01:03
fribuntujott: I can do that: Try to record ... *pop* *snap* *crackle* *beeeeep* ... run skype ... crystal clear ... try to record again ... *pop* *hisss* *beeeep*01:04
coreymon77how do i rollback to the previus images01:04
underdog5004coreymon77, it's a common issue right now01:04
coreymon77underdog5004: how do i roll back01:04
underdog5004no idea...gimme 30 minutes and I can tell you though....01:04
flaccidimo kubuntu is a mess (atm)01:05
fribuntucoreymon77: Ok, problem understood. However, I have no idea how to "role back". How about uninstalling them and then reinstalling the proper versions?01:05
jmichaelxcould anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and democracyplayer crash my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/01:05
fribuntuflaccid: I don't think so. Why should it be?01:05
underdog5004coreymon77, ok, read this. I know it's not totally the answer, but it can help you:  http://www.howtoforge.org/kernel_compilation_ubuntu01:05
flaccidfribuntu: i never said it should be01:05
jottfribuntu: hmm.. really strange.. you may compare amixer output before and while running skype?! ;)01:06
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underdog5004jmichaelx, were you playing stuff over a network?01:06
jottfribuntu: on the other hand skype may not be the best full dynamics test ;)01:06
fribuntujott: No changes. But as I said, I don't think skype is using alsa at all.01:06
user__cpk1 it didnt work01:06
fribuntujott: If I could get the skype sound quality out of a local recording, I'd be more than happy.01:07
user__how do i make the directory to mount it to???01:07
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jmichaelxunderdog5004: no, but i played a file that was somehow corrupt01:07
jottfribuntu: have you tried dumping /dev/audio to a file and then pipe it back to /dev/dsp ?01:07
fribuntujott: And by the way, simply playing sound is no problem and quite clear as well.01:07
juliosomebody can helpme i can not conect wireless01:07
fribuntujott: let me try ...01:07
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user__cpk1 is can we get into a private chat for a second just to plow thru this???01:08
cpk1user__: sudo lshw works01:08
user__yah that worked01:09
user__but the mounting didnt01:09
user__i have all the sba/b/c though01:09
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jmichaelxunderdog5004: you have an idea what might be wrong?01:09
cpk1what did it say?01:09
fribuntujott: it does not really work. I can hear some static and my voice very faint in the background.01:09
user__sd rather01:09
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user__p.s.  how do i make it so i specifically write to you again?01:09
jottfribuntu: have you tried recorind with arecord?01:10
cpk1user__: what was the mount error and what type of FS is this you are trying to mount?01:10
user__cpk1: nvm, remebered01:10
fribuntujott: That has the same problem. *beeeep* :(01:10
jott:(01:10
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fribuntujott: it is a PITA01:10
user__cpk1: the error was command not found, also, its a brand new drive, no FS01:10
earl_i have a question, it's kind of unrelated to linux01:10
user__cpk1: 3 brand new drives01:11
fribuntujott: recording sound with Linux has always been a bit of a pain. But this time I cannot get it to work at all.01:11
earl_my friend just bought an ATX power supply - but he has a BTX computer. he can't use his new power supply can he01:11
cpk1user__: so you are going to have to format them first01:11
user__cpk1: just need to figure out one and uplicate the process01:11
fribuntujott: It seems all the ALSA guys are very busy supporting playback, but nobody thinks about recording.01:11
jottfribuntu: so either its a bug in the alsa driver or you really missed some stupid flag in the mixer control (like disable spdif)01:11
user__cpk1: i thought they had to be mounted first?  argh, ok how is that done again???  sry man.... lol i totally forget01:11
jott2^n combinations to try ;)01:11
fribuntujott: let me restart alsamixer and go through the controlls, ok?01:12
fribuntujott: Master volume ... set to 100%, check.01:12
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fribuntujott: Master Mono: off01:12
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fribuntujott: PCM is at 80%01:12
jottfribuntu: maybe pastebin your amixer is easier ;)01:12
cpk1user__: you are going to want to use mkfs01:13
fribuntujott: hang on :)01:13
cpk1also cfdisk is easy to use if you want to make partitions on them01:13
getafixCan anyone help me with this error, even though i just restarted and nothing is running that i know of: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.01:13
fribuntujott: which pastebin do you recommend?01:13
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julioanyone can helpme i have an encore card pci adapter but my computer dont recognice01:14
cpk1to make sda all ext3 just do sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda01:14
user__cpk1: mkfs.... honestly it sounds familiar but i totally dont rember how to do it.  i did this whole procedure only 2wice and that was 3 years ago now01:14
coreymon77okay01:14
coreymon77guys01:14
coreymon77before i reboot01:14
coreymon77im trying to fix the problem01:14
jottfribuntu: either the ubuntu one or pastebin.ca come to my mind..01:15
cpk1user__: also you could try using gparted or qtparted for a gui that might be more intuitive and easier for you01:15
jottfribuntu: brb.. ;)01:15
coreymon77what kernel version is the latest working version01:15
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user__cpk1: it says: /dev/sda is entire device, not just one partition!01:15
user__cpk1: is it ok to procedd?01:15
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getafix:~$ apt-get update01:15
getafixE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)01:15
getafixE: Unable to lock the list directory01:15
getafixi get that in terminal that mean anything to anyone?01:15
cpk1getafix: you need to use sudo01:16
getafixsweet that worked thanks01:16
user__cpk1: also, which is for kde, qt or gparted???01:16
getafixwhat about this? E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.01:16
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flaccid!qtparted01:17
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB01:17
juliohelp01:17
flaccidgetafix: sudo dpkg --configure -a01:17
fribuntujott: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4786/01:17
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cpk1kde use qt and gnome uses gtk but both can be used on both01:18
coreymon77guys01:18
coreymon77the forum thread is confusing me01:19
cpk1getafix: obviously you should do sudo dpkg --configure -a01:19
jmichaelxcould anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and crash. my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/   i was up all night trying to fix this and am at an end. if i am not providing enough detail, please let me know01:19
coreymon77can someone juswt explain to me how to revert to the working kernel images01:19
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cpk1coreymon77: you should still have the old kernel installed in /boot so if there is a problem while booting make sure to choose the correct kernel01:20
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getafixyeah i know i did it straight away, i meant more what it was doing01:20
user__cpk1: hey cpk, please hang tight, im going to try that gui out and see how it goes, brb01:20
jmichaelxcoreymon77: your old kernels are still there, just choose one in the grub menu when you boot up, if what you just installed does not work, it isn't that big of a deal01:20
Alethesanybody else had any issues with konq grinding away when attempting to access any files with icon view?01:20
Bxnpguys, i need realy quick help, my harddisk is about to die any minut now01:20
Bxnphow can i back up my mail with kmail01:21
julioi dont know what you say timbo01:21
Bxnpwich files do i need to save01:21
Bxnpcause i am in a bit off panic right now01:21
underdog5004jmichaelx, lol, sorry I was afk...went to the post office. No, I have no Idea...I just do sudo apt-get remove --purge kaffeine kaffeine-xine && sudo apt-get install kaffeine kaffeine-xine01:21
cpk1getafix: dpkg is the package tool and -a means all, so you are configuring all packages that need to be01:21
getafixahh awesome thanks man01:21
Bxnpstdin: are you here01:22
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jmichaelxunderdog5004: ty no problem.... i will try that, although i tried everything last night, including reinstalling all of kde01:22
juliotimbo can you helpme01:23
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spitwiseBxnp: i'm researching for ya01:23
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Bxnpthanks spitwise01:25
jmichaelxunderdog5004: unfortunately it did not work....01:25
Bxnpi found the kmail directory as an hidden file in my home direcotry but cant copy that file to my usb stick01:25
Bxnpget an error01:25
coreymon77im okay01:26
coreymon77nothing happened01:26
coreymon77it didnt install01:26
coreymon77the new kernel didnt install01:26
coreymon77yes!01:26
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Bxnpspitwise: i only need my mail01:28
cpk1Bxnp: it should save mail to .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail01:28
Bxnpexported my adressbook already as vcard01:28
Bxnpand i am uploading all my pictures to my ftp01:28
jottfribuntu: hmm ok you could try (as a bruteforce approach) toggle: MicBoost/MicPlayback/MonoOutputSelect and reduce capture to like 80% ..01:28
Bxnpoke i copy that direcotry01:28
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cpk1Bxnp: that dir has sent mail too, if you want just recieved then its .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/01:30
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getafixsay i download a .tar.bz2 how do you install it?01:31
underdog5004jmichaelx, uh...it errors out for me a couple times, then it works...bleagh...I also do killall kaffeine01:31
moparisthebesthow do I run something every hour in kubuntu?01:32
moparisthebesta shell script01:32
moparisthebestIm in /etc/crontab, but I dont know what I put for the options01:32
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fribuntujott: I have already tried that. Mic boost does increase the volume, but also the volume of the *beeeeep*01:32
jmichaelxunderdog5004: i had never had any problems before... have used kubuntu/kaffeine on this laptop since breezy01:33
cpk1getafix: first you should make absolutely certain there isnt a deb of it first01:33
fribuntujott: Interesting enough, I still get the beep, if I mute the mic and record what should be silence.01:33
getafixhmm theres just one link, and its for that01:33
getafixnot .deb01:34
jottfribuntu: so mic is set as "CAPTUR", muted and you still get beep?01:34
getafixwhat consequently is .deb (debian)?01:34
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Bxnpcpk1: thanks :)01:34
fribuntujott: Yes.01:34
cpk1getafix: what are you trying to install?01:35
getafixI think just some theme things01:35
getafixbut i've found a kubuntu deb for the same thing somewhere else, still opens the same extraction program what should i be doing with that01:36
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spitwisemoparisthebest: *3 command &01:36
moparisthebestspitwise, right now I have:01:36
moparisthebest0  ** * *root    sh /root/getRS.sh01:36
moparisthebestis that right?01:36
jonathan__anyone know how to createa debian package from a bunch of extracted files01:37
spitwiseactually */3 should also mean every hour01:37
NkZGreetings.01:37
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NkZHow do I set up a list of programs that I want to be run at startup (Something like Gnome's "Sessions" menu)01:38
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spitwisemoparisthebest: you have some chars i can't see in my terminal01:40
Timbo_icant play qpotato.com games with linux :(01:40
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NkZHow do I set up a list of programs that I want to be run at startup (Something like Gnome's "Sessions" menu)01:41
spitwiseNkZ: you can use your .bashrc01:41
moparisthebestIm in the file /etc/crontab spitwise01:41
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moparisthebestall of my lines are formatted like the one I pasted01:41
moparisthebestbut 0 should run it every hour or not?01:41
NkZspitwuse: sudo view .bashrc?01:41
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user__cpk1: you still here?01:44
zblachhey, i just got an external HDD larger than my laptop's. what should I use for archiving everything?01:44
zblachand what should I archive?01:44
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spitwiseNkZ: or edit /etc/init.d/rc.local01:44
user__cpk1: i formated the drives with gtparted, ext3 format, now what should i do?01:44
spitwiseya sudo kate /etc/init.d/rc.local01:45
jmichaelxcould anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and crash. my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/   i was up all night trying to fix this and am at an end. if i am not providing enough detail, please let me know  |   the kde crash handler says 'signal 11 (SIGSEGV)'01:45
user__cpk1: ???01:45
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cpk1user__: use them?01:47
user__cpk1: lol.... uhhhh i formated them but they dont come up in my storage media folder01:47
vbgunzanyone know how to tell why some upgrades don't happen? e.g., I have 3 updates but they will not apply. Why?01:47
spitwisejmichaelx: what happens when you try to play?01:47
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cpk1user__: you need to mount them01:48
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cpk1and possibly partition them01:48
jmichaelxspitwise: i just get the kde crash handler01:48
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user__cpk1: ok, how do i go about doing that?01:49
spitwisehave you tried vlc, mplayer, etc?01:49
vbgunzI got linux-headers|image|restricted-modules-generic updates, (3 updates) but cannot apply them. Adept update only says BREAK (upgrade) ... so, what do I do to fix it?01:49
jmichaelxspitwise: vlc and mplayer work fine01:49
user__cpk1: terminal and... sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda????????01:49
cpk1thats how you format it01:50
user__cpk1: oh, ok, gotcha01:50
cpk1gparted or qtparted would probably be simpler for you01:50
user__cpk1: i just uesed them to format it, they will mount thru that as well?01:50
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jmichaelxspitwise: kaffeine crashed while playing a video last night, and has refused to work since (using xine engine)01:51
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spitwisehave you tried reinstalling or dpkg-reconfigure?01:52
zblachjmichaelx: killall kaffeine01:53
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zblachand then start it up again01:53
user__cpk1: ??01:53
baracudahey guys01:54
jmichaelxspitwise: yes, i have uninstalled, purged and re-installed for hours on end..... i even uninstalled and re-installed all of kubuntu-desktop / kde01:54
spitwisehave the latest xine libs?01:54
jmichaelxspitwise: yeah, it isn't that01:54
baracudajmichaelx I see you're having kubuntu probs too01:54
spitwiseoh man01:54
jmichaelxit crashd while playing the vid.... i have had kubuntu on this laptop for a year, and things were fine until last night01:55
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baracudayou're lucky jmichael I've only used kubuntu for about a week and this is my third installation01:56
user__o mannnnn.....  :(  anyone else know how to mount sata hd's?01:56
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jmichaelxbaracuda: after a rough start , i have gotten along well with kubuntu... i love it...01:57
baracuda now I can't access my home folder, adept and many other applictions .. I tried to remove soem deb applications in terminal but it says it's locked01:57
spitwisejmichaelx: have you tried using the gstreamer engine instead?01:58
baracudajmichaelx I hope I get to the stage when I say I go along well with kubunto too01:58
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jmichaelxi am going to have to reinstall, i think, which makes me want to cry...... getting wireless to work and getting the screen resolution working were my biggest headaches of all.... they are what caused my re-installs01:58
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spitwisewhat machine do you have?01:58
jmichaelxspit, no, but i guess i could try....01:59
user__soooo no one knows how to mount drives?01:59
baracuda it's always a bother to have to reinstall :(01:59
jmichaelxbaracuda: yeah, it is01:59
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baracudawhere is uboto02:00
baracudaor is it ubotu02:00
user__can anyone PLEASE help me mount this hd?02:00
jmichaelxspitwise: i have a dell dimension b13002:00
GM_Debianuser__: what is the problem02:00
getafixanyone able to direct me to YOUR_HOME/.qt where would it be located?02:00
baracudauser I wish I could .. I can't even mount my home folder :(02:01
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user__GM_Debian: well, ive got to the point where i have formated them with gtparted and do not know how to mount them, they are all sata02:01
earl_anyone here know a decent amount about samba?02:01
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user__GM_Debian: its been a VERY long time since ive mounted drives and totally dont rember how to02:02
GM_Debianhttp://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html02:02
user__GM_Debian: and they were ide back them02:02
GM_Debianearl_: whats the prob?02:03
earl_I am trying to share a folder to some other windows compies02:03
earl_but none of them can see it...02:03
spitwisejmichaelx: well i see threads about xine+kaffeine probs02:03
earl_also, I cannot access a shared printer on another windows box from this kubuntu box02:03
spitwiseyour not alone02:03
spitwisedon;t do a new install b/c of buggy software02:03
baracudastatus database area is locked by another process   ???   how can I unlock it ?02:03
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jmichaelxspitwise: it is just that i had no problems until i was in the middle of a video last night... i have no idea what engine it was using, but i would be pretty sure it was xine02:04
spitwiseuser__: what type of drive?02:04
GM_Debianearl_: checked all the basics, same workgroup etc02:04
jmichaelxspitwise: i don't think it is the software02:04
earl_well, as far as linux goes, i dont even know how to -set- workgroups.02:05
GM_Debianearl_: you have basic tcp connectivity between boxes02:05
lunchbox!Adept unlock02:05
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:05
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earl_yeah. there is no doubt there is tcp connectivity, when i search for printers i can see the names of the other computers, i just can't find the printers02:05
user__spitwise: they are all sata02:06
spitwiseexternal drives ?02:06
user__spitwise: western digital02:06
user__spitwise: no, internal02:06
spitwisehd's i mean02:06
spitwiseok02:06
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user__spitwise: yah but this thing im reading isnt helping to much... :(02:06
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user__spitwise: do you know if theres a site that has just the commands, i dont need to read why this and that happens, i just need it to happen, so i can copy and paste some command in and presto, 5mins and up and running02:07
user__spitwise: anything like that exist?02:08
spitwisemount /dev/hda? /mnt/mountpoint02:09
GM_Debianuser__: what was wrong with the one i gave you02:09
jmichaelxwhat file or setting allows a person to see an icon with a preview of each video file? that also quit working last night at the exact time that i started having video problems02:09
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user__GM_Debian: well, its not all to specific to the issue, they are all satas, not floppies, and i dont know how to create that intital mount point.02:09
GM_Debianmkdir02:10
user__GM_Debian: and secondly, i have until tonight to find out if they are all functioning fine because the instore return is tomorrow02:10
user__so im alittle stressed02:10
user__lol02:10
spitwiseuser__: ttp://www.smorgasbord.net/how_to_install_second_hard_drive_ubuntu_linux02:10
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spitwisels /etc/fstab to find /dev/wheresmydrive02:11
zblachsorta02:11
zblach/etc/fstab links hardware (in /dev) to folders02:12
spitwisenot sure what exactly you wanna do bu that url looks useful02:12
jmichaelxspitwise: also...democracyplayer crashes immediately when launched now.... maybe this isn't even an issue with xine.....02:12
user__spitwise: thanks man, but same issue.  so i have to edit fstab to get these all up and running02:13
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user__i thought sata would be different?02:13
angasuleadept updater shows I can upgrade the kernel, but it doesn't automatically select it for upgrade, why is that? is it safe to upgrade?02:13
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jmichaelxcan someone tell me what file or setting allows a person to see an icon with a preview of each video file in konqueror?02:13
Jucatoangasule: it's a known issue. it won't upgrade anything at all, so it's safe to ignore02:13
cpk1fstab is for automounting stuff, you dont need it to mount, you make a random directory anywhere and then do sudo mount /dev/sd* /imade/this/for/fun02:13
sleepy745Anyone have skdata for SuperKaramba? How do I change the months into English?02:14
cpk1if in the future you want your satas to mount on boot then yes you will need fstab entries for them02:14
cpk1first concentrate on mounting them02:14
sleepy745its in Italian right now02:14
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angasuleJucato: so it's safe to select those packages for upgrade so it will stop pestering me?02:15
spitwisecpk1: how do you find out out what it is? /dev/sd???02:15
Jucatoangasule: even if you select them, they will be held back02:15
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user__spitwise: well that didnt work.......02:15
cpk1angasule: there seems to be a problem with the kernal upgrade though02:15
user__jesus christ....02:15
angasuleJucato: bummer02:15
cpk1spitwise: sudo lshw will tell you the logical name02:16
angasuleoh, well, gotta go make a phone call02:16
Jucatoangasule: so there's nothing you can do right now except to ignore the notifcation02:16
spitwisecpk1: sweet thanks for da info] 02:16
earl_GM_Debian: how do i set the workgroup on my linux compy?02:17
GM_Debiandmesg|grep sd02:17
user__GM_Debian: i cant mkdir02:17
cpk1user__: also note that I cant remember the last time I added a new hard drive and might be forgetting something, for instance I am not sure if you need to make a partition out of it or not, but it wouldnt hurt to try to02:17
GM_Debianin smb.conf , workgroup = foo02:17
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cpk1user__: you can mkdir in your home folder otherwise you might need sudo02:18
user__lol.... naw man, i dont need any partiions02:18
GM_Debianuser__: as cpk1 said, need sudo or mount in your home02:18
user__i tried this: $ sudo mkdir /media/XXXXXX02:18
user__not the xxx's, but yu get the jist02:18
cpk1that will work02:19
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cpk1and then do sudo mount /dev/sd* /media/XXXXX02:19
jmichaelxcan someone tell me what file or setting allows a person to see an icon with a preview of video files in konqueror?02:19
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troxorwould someone kindly refresh my memory on the method to have dapper automatically update every so often (the ubuntu way, without putting dist-upgrade in a cronjob) ?02:21
getafixanyone able to tell me where you change the colour of the bottom task bar?02:22
infornographyI just installed kubuntu, is there a reason that the kernel packages are being held back when I try to update? and is it a problem?02:22
user__cpk1: spitwise GM_Debian........ i love you guys....02:22
user__lol02:22
user__it worked!02:23
spitwisejmichaelx: look in kcontrol > KDE Components >  File Associations02:23
jmichaelxspitwise: ty02:23
troxorgetafix: right click->configure panel ->appearance02:23
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getafixawesome ta troxor was looking in appereance02:24
spitwisejmichaelx: not sure if that'll help though02:24
Jucatojmichaelx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 <--- there's a section there about video previews in konqueror (applies to Dapper and Edgy)02:25
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jmichaelxspitwise: those previews stopped working when the video crashed..... there is something going on that is not allowing those previews, and i think it is the same problem i am having with kaffeine-xine and democracyplayer02:26
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spitwisebut the weird thing is that vlc and mplayer *do* work02:27
jmichaelxyeah02:28
jmichaelxthis is strange and frustrating02:28
GM_Debianpreviews are managed from settings -> configure konq -> previews and meta-data02:29
spitwisekaffeine is kinda shady if ya ask me02:29
spitwisei do use it but i prefer vlc for video02:29
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BluesKajshady?02:31
spitwiseshaday02:31
GM_Debianlibarts1-xine02:32
spitwiseit craps out on me at times02:32
GM_Debiani think is the package that actually controls the video previews though02:32
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GM_Debianok02:34
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GM_Debianconfirmed it, install libarts1-xine, then you will have the option view -> previews -> video preview02:35
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specialbuddywhat's a shortcut to go to different desktops?02:35
user__crap... new problem... how do i get write permissions?02:35
Jucatospecialbuddy: Ctrl+Tab by default02:36
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Jucatospecialbuddy: or Ctrl+Fn02:36
specialbuddychmod u+rwx02:36
user__cpk1: do you know how?02:36
specialbuddyuser_, what are you trying to do?02:36
user__specialbuddy: trying to get wrie permission to my recently mounted drives02:37
user__specialbuddy: to copy files over02:37
GM_Debianuser__: what are they formatted as?02:37
spitwisesudo chown -R user:user /mountpoint02:37
specialbuddyoh02:37
specialbuddyyou might have to edit fstab to do that02:37
user__GM_Debian: all are ext302:37
spitwisemm ya02:37
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spitwisechmod -R 755 /driveblah02:38
jmichaelxdoes any of you know how to install and configure 915 resolution?02:38
user__spitwise: so which one should i use?02:38
specialbuddyis there a way to get to my other desktops with a shortcut?  ctrl+tab only goes to other windows not desktops02:39
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GM_Debianuser__: is it beacuse you dont have perms to write to them, or they are mounted ro?02:39
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user__GM_Debian: well i made mount point, mounted them, they are accesable, but cannot be written too02:40
GM_Debianno, not if you do it like that02:40
GM_Debianwill only be writable by root02:40
user__GM_Debian: argh....02:40
user__GM_Debian: so how do i mke it so i can read write, etc, freely?02:41
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GM_Debianchuck the mount stanza in your /etc/fstab02:41
sampanspecialbuddy  i think the default is cntl-f#02:41
user__GM_Debian: .... riiiight02:41
user__lol02:41
user__GM_Debian: and how do i do that??02:42
GM_Debiansudo nano /etc/fstab02:42
getafixhow can I get kubuntu wasing my 4 and 5 buttons for back and forward through windows?02:42
getafixurr using02:43
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user__GM_Debian: okkk got some funky stuff here, now what?02:43
charlie5hi all ... when i opened up the 'kubuntu updates' icon today, there was a list of upgradeable packages where some were selected automatically for update, but severl were not ... i've not seen this before ... does that mean there might be a problem if i try to do those updates ?02:43
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slyfoxDoes anyone has transparancy enabled in Windows ?02:44
GM_Debianand chuck : /dev/sdx <mntpoint> ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 102:44
baracudaYes!!  solved my problem by chance,  it was all caused by an unfinished java jre  installation :)02:44
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slyfoxI mean does anyone have transparancy enabled in KDE windows ? does it work? I cant get mine to work02:45
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mainhey how do i uninstall windows prgrams i installed with wine??02:45
baracudanow I have back my adept,vlc,konquero....etc02:45
main?02:45
specialbuddydoes anyone know how to got to different desktops by just pressing some shortcut keys?02:46
main??02:46
user__GM_Debian: ummm big problem.  none of my sata drives come up.  only my windows partiion, fat32 swap, swap, and linux parition come up02:46
user__need windows for games unfortunately02:46
baracudathe only major problem I now have is to have sound in kaffeine player when I watch tv  and the codecs for it to play avi's ..etc02:46
charlie5the packages which were not automatically requested for update all involve the kenerl (linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic & linux_restricted-modules) ... would it be safe to upgrade these ?02:46
GM_Debiansudo mount -a02:46
mainhellpp02:46
maini dont know how to uninstall windows programs i installe dwith wine02:47
baracudaCan anyone help with my kaffeine problem !  I would appreciate that very much02:47
maincant find drive c anywhere02:47
Gretlcharlie5: you have to wait its a known issue  till the kernels are ready02:47
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Gretlcharlie5: probably tomorrow02:47
charlie5Gretl: ah, thank you ... so i should not update them at the moment02:48
main>??02:48
charlie5tomorrow ... thats no problem02:48
user__GM_Debian: that didnt do anything02:48
Gretlcharlie5:  no do nothing just wait02:48
charlie5Gretl: thanks again ... probably saved me from klutzing my system ... cheers :)02:49
spitwisespecialbuddy: ctrl + tab02:49
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baracudaor maybe someone can tell me how to install codecs for kaffeine ?02:49
spitwisectrl + f1 ,2,3,4 or so02:49
underdog5004baracuda, sudo apt-cache search codec02:49
underdog5004baracuda, then you pick and choose what you want to install02:49
spitwise!codecs02:49
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:49
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Gretl!restricted | baracuda02:50
mainanyone know how to uninstall windows programs  innstalled thru wine?02:50
ubotubaracuda: please see above02:50
baracudacheers underdog .. i try that now02:50
main??02:50
deathnote!hardware02:50
underdog5004np02:50
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:50
deathnote!dev02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
specialbuddythank you spitwise :)02:50
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spitwisesomebody answered you before .. you musta been at another desktop ;)02:50
bxnphardwareproboke who helped me with my kmail backup02:50
deathnotehi i would like to know if i plug a new Pci card in let's say a tv card, will kubuntu auto detect and install or i have to do something from the console?02:50
user__gm?02:51
user__GM_Debian: ?02:51
jmichaelxif anyone could help , it would be greatly appreciated.... last night kaffeine crashed while playing a video... since then i kaffeine crashes when using the xine engine. also, programs like democracyplayer and amarok also crash. thanks in advance for the assistance02:52
Gretldeathnote: it autodetect most tv cards02:52
jmichaelxspitwise: i just discovered that amarok will not work either02:52
spitwisei assume you have done a reboot02:52
baracudaunderdog I have the list of the cache, can you give me the syntax for install ?02:52
Gretldeathnote: but make sure in some forum the card is not at blacklist before buying02:52
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jmichaelxspitwise: were you asking me whether or not i had rebooted?02:53
user__ok so gm is gone, can anyone esle help with the permissions issue?02:53
deathnotei would like to know how to manage, view or know my hardwares better like what is /dev etc.. actually02:53
spitwisejmichaelx: heh ya02:54
baracudaare all the codecs in cache available for installation or already installed ?02:54
user__basically all i need is to have all permissions gone so i can read and write to my drives freely02:54
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spitwisedeathnote: cpkle told me this cool command: sudo lshw02:54
jmichaelxspitwise: no, maybe i should at this point02:54
jmichaelxbrb02:54
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Gretldeathnote: to view what is installed go to info center02:55
kgxspitwise: nice :D02:55
user__spi02:55
user__spitwise: do you know how?02:55
spitwiseya cool stuff02:55
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spitwiseuser__: look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux02:56
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deathnotehi.. i used lshw .. so those devices listed are suppose to be in /dev ?02:58
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underdog5004baracuda, I think so02:58
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spitwisedeathnote: ya02:59
spitwisesudo lshw | less02:59
spitwisethen type /dev to search02:59
spitwisen to go to next instance02:59
deathnoteeg i wanna find where's my sound.. is it in /dev/snd ? or /dev/audio or /dev/dsp ??02:59
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spitwise<-search for dev <- this word03:00
spitwise /03:00
spitwiseoh03:00
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deathnotei saw alot of /dev/hda or hdc..but i guess its harddisk and cdrom..for my multimedia audio it doesn't have /dev/xxxx03:01
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Gretlperhaps you take a look at the grafik interface03:02
Gretlsystem -> infocenter03:02
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NkZGreetings03:03
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NkZSorry to bother again, but I can't find a way to add commands to be run automatically at the session startup (Let's say for Example, Beryl) (Something like "Session" in gNOME)03:04
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getafixwhats my problem here?03:05
getafixsudo edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:05
getafixWarning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- using "application/*"03:05
getafixError: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"03:05
underdog5004getafix, sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:05
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spitwisedeathnote: just ls it to see whats there?03:05
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getafixcool03:05
underdog5004or if you like the CLI, sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:05
KalakChiPetraevening everyone03:06
getafixwhy kate instead of edit?03:06
spitwisecuz kate is actually an application03:06
spitwise:)03:06
KalakChiPetraJust popping in to see if there has been any chatter on the kernal update fix03:06
NkZHello anyone? :-P03:07
spitwisels -l /dev/snd03:07
deathnotespitwise: yeah.. saw a bunch of things ..i wanna find out like which is my video etc? /dev/video ? but mine don't have03:07
spitwiseKalakChiPetra: all i've heard so far is not to update ..03:07
Gretlbetter kdesu kate03:07
getafixahh sweet ta spit03:07
JucatoKalakChiPetra: no fix yet. but known issue and being worked on03:07
deathnoteu see.. some of my applications need me to specify where my hardwares are, but i couldn't find03:08
spitwisebut i'm on ppc .. not in the loop really03:08
user__spitwise: its a no go man.....03:08
KalakChiPetraspitwise: Too late for that, I updated early this morning luckily Im still somewhat stable03:08
user__edited the fstab03:08
spitwisekewl03:08
user__tried the chown stuff03:08
user__didnt work03:08
Jucatoactually, there's no problem with updating... coz nothing will happen03:08
spitwisesudo chmod 777 /whereitsmounted03:08
spitwisemay work .03:08
KalakChiPetraI got the main kernel update there are just 2 others that wont upgrade03:09
spitwisei should really be drinking beer03:09
KalakChiPetraspitwise: I am drinking beer03:09
spitwisesaweet03:09
KalakChiPetravery much so03:09
NkZSorry to bother again, but I can't find a way to add commands to be run automatically at the session startup (Let's say for Example, Beryl) (Something like "Session" in gNOME)03:09
d0uglasGot Momma an AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-50 256KBx2 l@ cACHE @ 1.6GHz.. will the latest linux kernel take full advantage of that mofo?03:09
KalakChiPetraI really need to hop in this room more often03:10
deathnotecan someone care to explain what's /dev actually?03:10
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d0uglas(got Momma [a laptop with]  the AMD]  etc)03:10
KalakChiPetraI really need a new box03:10
user__spitwise: nope.... still no03:10
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user__argh this is a disaster03:10
NkZdeathnote: As far as I know dude, It's the "Devices" folder. That is: CDRoms, USBdisk and bla bla bla03:11
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user__anyone care to weigh in on this permissions nightmare?03:11
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getafixhow do you write in kate theres like . that comes up when you hit space but how do you leave spaces so you the code line you're entering looks the same as the rest?03:11
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KalakChiPetraThe only files I cannot update are linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-38603:12
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valdiviahola03:12
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NkZSorry to bother again, but I can't find a way to add commands to be run automatically at the session startup (Let's say for Example, Beryl) (Something like "Session" in gNOME) Anyone knows?03:12
deathnoteuser__:  what?03:12
user__deathnote: harddrive permisisons03:13
user__to have full read and write access03:13
KalakChiPetraignore the magical space periods03:13
LeeJunFanNkZ: ~/.kde/Autosart03:13
valdiviaalguien que hable espaol03:13
manom_holas03:13
Jucato!es | valdivia03:14
ubotuvaldivia: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:14
NkZLeejunfan: Thanks. :-)03:14
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deathnoteuser__: pm?03:14
jesse__Does anybody know how to setup a dual moniter03:14
valdiviagracias03:14
jesse__or like a split desktop on either ubuntu or kubuntu desktop enviroments?03:15
getafixSpitwise: how would i got about doing this once i'm inside kate editing the file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374&page=703:15
user__gm i cant use the chat i have toregister03:15
user__ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:15
user__spam.... yah right03:15
user__jesus03:15
deathnotewhat u get from mount -l03:16
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deathnotefor the harddisk03:16
NkZLeeJunFan: KDE/Autostart is a folder, What should I do with that? make a file, dunno, move the links there?03:16
deathnoteneed to know the filesystem of the harddisk you mounting03:16
deathnotentfs may have problem writing on it03:16
jesse__or like a split desktop on either ubuntu or kubuntu desktop enviroments?03:16
jesse__Does anybody know how to setup a dual moniter03:16
jesse__or like a split desktop on either ubuntu or kubuntu desktop enviroments?03:16
jesse__sorry03:17
LeeJunFanNkZ: make a bash script or a link to the program you want to run.03:17
NkZwould Kcontrol-Autostart help?03:17
LeeJunFanNkZ: dunno - never noticed it.03:17
Jucato!autostart03:18
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.03:18
user__christ.... ok how do you register this thing?03:18
deathnoteuser__: hello?03:18
JucatoNkZ: the Beryl Wiki has some instructions on how to run Beryl at KDE startup03:18
cpk1user__: does root have rw access to the drive or is it mounted read only?03:18
user__it says rw beside it03:19
NkZJucato: Will try that, thanks. :-)03:19
user__ /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER03:19
getafixanyone able to tell me how i can do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374&page=703:19
user__ARGH03:19
deathnote!register03:20
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:20
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jesse__Does anybody know how to setup a dual moniter?03:20
kgxin kde, i want to set up a shortcut to paste something (it's password in leet letters for one of our machines). so i set up a keyboard input shortcut in kde control center but it doesnt seem to work, anyone know what could be wrong? is it even possible to set up a shortcut to paste text into the active window?03:21
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NkZThanks, KControl-Autostart did the magic03:21
manom_jesse__: i tried and didn't get it. You wil need to mess with xorg.conf(create new sections for the other monitor, and probably some options to your device driver). google...03:21
user__cpk1: any ideas?03:22
jesse__manom:>thanks i'll try and i'll keep you poseted03:22
manom_jesse__: keyword: xinerama dual-head03:22
manom_...03:22
cpk1user__: with what?03:22
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user__cpk1: with the permissions, it does say rw03:23
sanddragis there a way to install just the Kubuntu desktop without the like 500 kthis kthat programs?03:23
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deathnoteuser__: what's the file system of the harddisk:????03:23
cpk1user__: so you can write to the harddrive?/03:23
jesse__manom:>what do you mean by dual=head03:23
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user__deathnote: ext303:23
jesse__manom:>what do you mean by dual-head03:23
jesse__sorry03:23
user__cpk1: no i cant03:23
NkZHe he he he he Sorry, Is there a way to reduce the Opacity of the Menu? (Just as the panel)03:23
deathnoteuser__: can u paste what's mounted for your harddisk? mount -l03:24
manom_i don't remember if its right... i think i found related things searching for that03:24
cpk1user__: can root write to the hard drive?03:25
jesse__let me try and research on it03:25
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user__whats the pastebin address again?03:25
jesse__just wanted some kind of start before i went and played around03:25
manom_good luck!03:25
user__ill paste it there03:25
cpk1its in the topic03:25
jesse__thanks i'll need it03:25
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deathnotejust paste the 1 line of your harddisk?03:26
deathnoteor partition that u trying to mount03:26
deathnoteuser__: paste also df -h , fdisk -l , mount -l if u pasting at bin03:27
getafixanyone know why gedit doesn't work?03:27
deathnotegetafix: apt-get install gedit03:27
getafixsweeet03:28
getafixdanke03:28
user__deathnote: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4809/03:28
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goodthingwow, neverball potentially does not like aiglx03:29
deathnoteuser__: which harddisk/partitions u having problem with?03:29
user__dea03:29
user__deathnote: all 3 of the satas03:29
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user__the 2 500 gb drives and the one 32003:29
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deathnoteuser__: btw, u are using user to do the mount -l03:30
deathnoteuser__: can u type sudo bash , then enter your password03:30
deathnoteuser__: and then go into /windows ?03:31
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naught101ok, I'm having a really wierd problem: my two battery monitors are telling me that I have not battery on my laptop, but I'm not plugged into the wall!03:32
naught101no battery03:32
user__deathnote: /windows didnt work03:33
naught101anyone ever seen anything like it?03:33
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deathnoteuser__: are u root yet? i noticed u are user@User03:33
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Thehound666I screwed up bad and don't know how. xserver won't start and need to restore my old xorg.conf03:34
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user__yup im root now03:34
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user__deathnote: yup im root now03:35
Kamuihey03:35
deathnoteuser__: ok.. so u can't ls inside /windows or u can't copy files in or what? what error u get? permission denied?03:35
Thehound666I attempted the fglrx drivers which now cause xserver to freeze upon load03:35
user__deathnote: im not trying to get into windows.  windows exists only for games.  i need to be able to use my 3 sata drives that i have just mounted03:36
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user__deathnote: basically, all i need to do is just turn off all permissions somehow03:36
KamuiI need a good osx style dock that plays nice with kde03:37
Kamuiany suggestions03:37
Kamuikiba-dock sucks03:37
user__deathnote: or whatever it is, all i need to do is to be able to read and write to all my hd's and problem solved03:37
goodthinguser__: at least you can go into windows, i bought a dell laptop and can only boot straight into a bsod after one week usage03:37
user__i woulnd never buy a pc03:37
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user__i put this baby together myself03:38
user__and i also hate dell03:38
user__lol03:38
goodthinguser__: i do too :) but a building a laptop, that's a little different03:38
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user__badddddddddddd bad parts03:38
Thehound666guess I'll have to use the windows program to backup my files from windows and format Kubuntu03:38
Thehound666again03:38
user__yahhhh laptops are i dunno.... all that heat pipe stuff is bs03:38
user__from my opinion heat pipes actually only work from a theoretical standpoint03:39
cpk1user__: so as root can you make a file on the satas? try touch /media/eva01/test03:39
user__but anyways03:39
user__cpk1: nope.....03:40
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deathnoteuser__: could u pls be more descriptive like what's the error?03:40
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deathnotepermission denied?03:40
cpk1sudo /media/eva01/test ?03:41
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soulrideruser__: whats the filesystem of your partition? the one youre trying to write to03:41
user__command not found03:41
user__ext303:41
deathnotefuk..03:41
deathnotesoulrider: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4809/03:41
Thehound666trying to get in recovery mode from VMWare03:41
user__everything is exts303:41
soulrideruhm03:41
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Thehound666otherwise I can't use IRC03:42
soulrideruser__: try sudo chmod -R +x <path to your partition>03:42
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deathnoteuser__: type "sudo touch /media/eva01/test"03:42
Kamuisheeeiiiiiiiiiiiiit03:43
soulrideruser__: may i ask why you named your partitons evaxx? im just curious :P03:43
deathnoteuser__: type "ls /media/eva01/test" what u see?03:43
deathnoteuser__: type "ls /media/eva01/" what u see?03:43
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user__ok first, the -R +x didnt work, the test command didnt do anything, and eva from evangelion, dunno why, just seemd appropriate for some reason, and let me try the ls thing03:44
user__lost+found  test03:44
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soulrideruser__: i thought so :P why not call your PC MAGIE ?03:45
deathnoteuser__: there.. u just written a file in /media/eva01 ........03:45
deathnoteuser__: why u say u can't read or write in that partition?03:45
user__MAGIE!?  hahahah noooooooo... lol.03:45
Kamuiosx style dock apps?03:45
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Kamuiother than kiba-dock?03:45
soulriderwell, werent the 3 computers called like that> melchior casper and balthasar03:46
user__ok watch, i will try to put data on there..... one sec03:46
Jucatokxdocker?03:46
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KalakChiPetraif his windows is NTSF he cant write to it03:47
deathnoteuser__: yea if u could type the command here on how u put some data there03:47
deathnoteKalakChiPetra: yea hey is there any way to write in ntfs file system?03:48
cpk1user__: dont use a gui, try doing sudo cp /some/file/inmyhome /media/eva01/somename03:48
user__ok, A: i cannot create folders and such.  B:  i cannot copy information from an external harddrive to any of the sata drives03:48
KalakChiPetranone that I know of03:48
cpk1user__: also try going into /media/eva01 and then do mkdir testdir03:48
surgyanyone know the status of that bug fix to fix the update bug?03:48
cpk1sudo mkdir*03:49
Hobbseesurgy: in progress03:49
surgyhobbsee: kewl thnx03:49
cpk1Hobbsee: dont you think it would be useful to put the forum link in the topic?03:49
KalakChiPetradeathnote: thats why I keep a fat32 to move files between Windows and linux03:49
Hobbseesurgy: it's a bug in the releasing software03:49
user__bash: /media/eva01: is a directory03:49
Hobbseecpk1: what forum link?03:49
Hobbseecpk1: forums tend not to always be accurate03:49
deathnotehahaha03:50
Kamuihi Jucato03:50
cpk1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35640803:50
Kamuitried kxdocker03:50
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Kamuiits broken03:50
Kamuikiba-dock sucks03:50
Hobbseedeathnote: ?03:50
Kamuibut I thought there was at least one other "good" one03:50
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deathnoteuser__: 1) cd /media/eva01 , 2) sudo mkdir testdir , 3) ls -l03:50
deathnoteHobbsee: sorry what?03:50
KalakChiPetrakxdocker works for me03:51
goodthingkxdocker is fun, but took a lot of cpu and system responsiveness here when i last tried03:51
Hobbseedeathnote: was trying to figure out why you were laughing03:51
user__total 2003:52
user__drwx--x--x 2  777 user 16384 2007-02-08 19:30 lost+found03:52
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KalakChiPetraI need more booze03:52
user__-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     0 2007-02-08 21:43 test03:52
user__drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2007-02-08 21:51 testdir03:52
deathnoteHobbsee: oh..because i saw bash: /media/eva01: is a directory03:52
user__thats what came out03:52
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deathnoteuser__: there u are.. u created a testdir , and a file test .. so what's the problem?03:53
Hobbseedeathnote: ah03:53
cpk1user__: you obviously can read write, if your normal user cant write then that is not nearly as bad03:53
Hobbseecpk1: replied to it03:53
deathnoteyeah03:53
user__lol.... ok, so WHY can i not creat files, and cannot copy from an external hd?03:53
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Hobbsees/tag/avator03:54
cpk1user tell me the full path of something you want to copy to the sata?03:54
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cpk1Hobbsee: heh, well i suppose that will make some people sleep easier =)03:55
user__dude im just as confused as you03:55
user__lol03:55
Hobbseecpk1: heh.  yes03:55
Hobbseecpk1: actually, i'm surprised they didnt get that update months ago, when it was first out03:55
user__im copying from here: /media/eva02-1/HDD02-TVanime03:55
Hobbseein fact, i'm not convinced that they didnt.03:55
user__its external, dont get confused03:56
user__its my old system to the new03:56
KalakChiPetraim drunk, I get confuzzled easily03:56
cpk1user__: so sudo cp /media/eva02-1/HDD02-TVanime /media/eva01/HDD02-TVanime doesnt work?03:57
JucatoHobbsee: thanks for replying to the thread. :)03:57
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Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/bugs/8408403:57
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JucatoO.O03:58
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cpk1Hobbsee: lol, some guy in #ubuntu was complaining about that earlier today03:58
darkholmehi everybody03:58
Hobbseecpk1: about supertux?03:58
underdog5004awww, why's supertux unstable?03:58
darkholmeI have a question I hope you'll know the answer:03:59
cpk1Hobbsee: yeah, he said that if you dont have 3d acceleration dont get .303:59
Hobbseeunderdog5004: it's a snapshot release03:59
cpk1and i was thinking the whole time "its a 2d game"03:59
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underdog5004!snapshot03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
user__cpk1:  thats thru terminal though, thats the prob, i need to get this functional thru konqueror03:59
underdog5004Is that for devs?03:59
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cpk1user__: so that works?03:59
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Hobbseeunderdog5004: not really.  it works, but isnt final03:59
user__i didnt try it because im not copying the whole file03:59
cpk1user__: try copying something from your home directory into eva0104:00
user__obviously things can be written from terminal to the drive04:00
user__ok one sec04:00
cpk1without using sudo btw04:00
cpk1lol, i just now thought of closing adept notifier haha04:01
deathnotewell anyone know what's the command to mount the sda1 which allow for all user rights?04:01
user__cpk1: nope, no go04:01
user__i cannot drag and drop04:01
cpk1been bugging me all day04:01
deathnotemaybe that can help user__04:01
karican someone give me a source for w32 codecs ?  the one I found is deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free    and it's not working  :(04:01
user__and i connot create files04:01
darkholmei have a problem installing kubuntu...I have tried all the cds I mean alternate, live cd, install etc....the problem is that my computer is not running the setup.....the computer is configure to boot from the cd but it is not launching this setup....I have tried with other distros and it's ok but with Kubuntu edgy it's not working...somebody told me that's maybe because my computer is not recognizing "iso linux" so he told me to create a 3 1/2 disc to boo04:01
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user__cpk1: sorry for bugging you man, i really appreciate the help04:02
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user__after this issue, i wont really ever have any issues i hope04:02
karidoes anyone have a source for me to get  w32 codecs ?04:02
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jarnWho makes the packages that are in the ubuntu repos?04:02
user__everything else is pretty straight forward except this mounting business....  never fails, problems everytime i try04:03
Hobbseejarn: multiple people.  what in particular is your question?04:03
Jucatojarn: depends on which part of the repos04:03
Gretl!restricted | kari04:03
ubotukari: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:03
cpk1you can try mounting with sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/sda1 /media/eva0104:03
deathnoteuser__: ahh..for u i'll plug in my ipod and see what's the mount04:03
deathnotebrb04:03
jarnWell, I would like to make a suggestion that the package for Amarok be compiled with MTP support, since it would be really nice and a lot of people have MTP mp3 players.04:03
user__hahaha lol thanks man04:04
jarnAnd I was wondering where to do that.04:04
darkholme:804:04
darkholme:(04:04
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=== Jucato thought Amarok already did have MTP support..
kariI went through the ubotu sites and the one link for supositories is not working :(04:04
user__cpk1: mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/eva01 busy04:04
HobbseeJucato: does in feisty, i think it does in edgy too04:04
user__cpk1: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/eva0104:04
jarnNo, it doesn't.04:04
jarnYou have to compile it with it.04:05
Jucatojarn: have you tried upgrading to Amarok 1.4.5?04:05
user__cp it put out those 2 lines04:05
Hobbseeright.  does in feisty then.04:05
deathnoteuser__ can u type "id user" and paste for me?04:05
cpk1user__: obviously you have to unmount it first, sudo umount /media/eva0104:05
jarnWith special flags.04:05
kariI guess no one here watches avi's dvds mpegs on their linux machine  :)04:05
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jarnJucato: I haven't used the 1.4.5 from the repos, but I know 1.4.3 was not compiled with MTP support.04:05
Jucatojarn: Amarok 1.4.5 form the kubuntu.org repos might already have that04:06
cpk1kari: i do, and i followed the ubuntu wiki04:06
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Jucatokari: install libxine-extracodecs as the wiki instructed04:06
user__deathnote: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4811/04:06
user__i dunno what that will do04:06
HobbseeJucato: 1.4.5 from kubuntu.org repos definetly should.04:07
karitrying again04:07
HobbseeJucato: seeing as that's just feisty backported04:07
karithanks guys04:07
jarnHobbsee: I'll take a look. But I KNOW that 1.4.3 didn't.04:07
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JucatoHobbsee: ah. jarn did you hear that ^^^04:07
Hobbseejarn: yes.  hence the suggested upgreade.04:07
cpk1dapper people use 1.4.304:07
jarnIndeed.04:07
Hobbseeer, upgrade04:07
K`zanI've got the builtin sound card on /dev/mixer and the USB headset on /dev/mixer1.  How can I get the output from tvtime (hardwired into /dev/mixer CD input)?  TIA!04:07
deathnoteuser__: ok i got it04:07
jarnHobbsee: They just released 1.4.5 a few days ago... :P04:07
Hobbseejarn: true.  there are packages for it too :P04:07
jarnHobbsee: So up until a few days ago, everyone used 1.4.3.04:07
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user__deathnote: you know whats wrong!?!?!04:08
user__?04:08
Hobbseejarn: what happened to 1.4.4, which also included mtp support?04:08
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=== Jucato thought MTP support only came on 1.4.4+?
jarnHobbsee: Oh, hrm, I missed that I guess.04:08
Jucatoin Amarok itself, I mean04:08
HobbseeJucato: or it was majorly fixed then, yeah.  something like that04:08
cpk1just noticed i am on 1.4.3 =\04:08
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cpk1user__: did you mount it with defaults?04:09
Hobbseecpk1: yes.  we cant backport versions thru -updates04:09
Hobbsee:(04:09
user__cpk1: yup they were all mounted with defaults, as the onlne guide said to do so04:10
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K`zanIs there anything like a patch panel where I can route various inputs to a specific output?04:11
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kariJucato Thanks !!!!!  it's finally working, I can watch tv and watch files  cheers mate04:11
Jucatono problem04:12
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kariall I have to do now is look for another problem to solve :)04:12
user__this sucks,,,, i think i may have to cross over into windows and format the drives to ntfs to test and go thru all this garbage again04:13
user__frick04:13
jarnHrm.04:13
jarnI just installed the Amarok from the repos and it won't start up.04:13
karimaybe not .. I think i'll sit back and enjoy the latest triumph :)04:13
kari04:13
jarnA box in the middle of the screen appears for a second then dissapears.04:13
jarnNo erros in the terminal.04:13
user__does ubuntu auto mount and auto detect?04:14
user__personanlly i like kde way better, but this is a critical issue04:14
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user__and for some reason there is no sudo command like sudo remove damned permissions04:14
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user__that would be great04:14
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Hobbseejarn: move .kde/share/apps/amarok and .kde/share/config/amarok*04:15
Hobbseeout of the way04:15
Hobbseethen it starts04:15
Hobbsee(config files appear not to be compatible)04:15
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jarnAh.04:16
jarnHow odd.04:16
d0uglasGot a laptop with a 64 bit chip, got a 32 bit kubuntu disk. Can i do an install that'll take advantage of the 64bit chip by, i guess, apt getting the right kernel or do i need to download the right 64 bit install disk04:16
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cpk1he left...04:17
Hobbseed0uglas: the latter.04:17
d0uglasdamn.04:17
d0uglask04:18
cpk1cant have been too important if he is going to give up that easily04:18
deathnotewhat's the command to mount with uid=1000 and gid=1000 ?04:18
deathnotecouldn't find04:18
fignewmount as roo04:18
fignewroot*04:18
d0uglaslspci says Broadcom Unknown Device 4311 (rev 01).. can i ndiswrap my way out of this or should i exchange this laptop04:19
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Jucato!away > Sess-away04:19
Sess-awaysorry jucato04:20
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Sess-awaydamn it04:20
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Kamuithere, I wont do it anymore :)04:20
jarn1.4.5 does not seem to have MTP support packaged with it.04:20
Jucato:)04:20
fignewd0uglas: no need to exchange... even if drivers don't exist you can change out the minipci wireless card04:20
jarnOr atleast, it's not recognizing my MTP player.04:20
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jarnAnyone know?04:22
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cpk1oh my, after getting more repos from easy source I have 162 megs worth of downloads now04:23
deathnoteoh i got it..but he's gone04:24
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crimsunjarn: check the output from apt-cache showsrc amarok |grep ^Build |grep libmtp-dev >/dev/null ; echo $?04:25
theshadowplease tell me someone here has used umbrello?04:25
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Hobbseecrimsun: the fact that libmtp2 doesnt seem to be a dep of even feisty's amarok worries me.04:27
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pgdowndoes anyone have trouble fastforwarding/rewinding with VLC?04:28
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CaseyOmahI changed monitors on my system and now I can't get into X. what is a CLI for res change in X?04:28
jarncrimsun: Ah, I had 1.4.4 installed instead of 1.4.5. Apparently amarok-latest hasn't been updated to 1.4.5, when I changed it to amarok-145 I got it.04:29
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crimsunHobbsee: amarok is in depwait for libmtp 0.1.3 to be binary NEWed04:32
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Jucatoheh... dev talk...04:32
Jucatodidn't even make a single sense :P04:33
Hobbseecrimsun: for 1.4.5?04:33
Hobbseecrimsun: fun04:33
crimsunJucato: "The latest amarok source upload is waiting for the latest libmtp upload to be accepted by the Ubuntu archive admins"04:33
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Jucatocrimsun: hehe thanks :)04:34
Jucatocrimsun: although the way you said it first looks kooler :)04:34
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revdjenkCaseyOmah: i am researching your question04:35
pgdownwhat video player do you guy use?04:35
pgdownvlc is driving me crazy...04:35
Captain_RedbeardHmm bah, my amarok 1.4.5 running on Kubuntu feisty wont build its database... it will create its database and tables but then it wont fill them with any informations04:35
Captain_Redbeardno matter the permissions of the file it's searching for etc04:35
crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: that bug has already been fixed. Use a more current mirror.04:36
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: uhm ok? what repo is it in?04:36
cpk1pgdown: i usually use kaffeine04:36
crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: dpkg -l amarok|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'04:37
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: and when was it fixed?04:37
HobbseeCaptain_Redbeard: days ago04:37
HobbseeCaptain_Redbeard: edgy or feisty?04:37
Captain_RedbeardHmmm04:37
Captain_Redbeardfeisty04:37
crimsunTue, 06 Feb 2007 19:36:32 +0100.04:37
Captain_Redbearduh... then it's very odd if it's not in my repo04:37
cpk1can aptitude show changes to packages you are thiking about upgrading?04:38
crimsuncpk1: 'changelog'04:38
Captain_Redbeardmy repos are archive.ubuntu.com should be updated no?04:38
crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: when did you last update && upgrade?04:39
cpk1crimsun: well that is overly simple =P too bad i cant fetch the url =(04:39
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: 2 hours ago :p04:39
crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: which backend are you using?04:39
Captain_Redbeardapt-get usually04:40
crimsunno, amarokcollection backend04:40
crimsunsqlite? mysql? postgresql?04:40
Captain_Redbeardah04:40
Captain_Redbeardmysql04:40
Captain_Redbeardtried sqlite too with no luck04:40
revdjenkCaseyOmah: are you still here?04:41
crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: I just created a new one just fine using mysql04:41
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: uploaded to?04:41
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crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: err, come again?04:42
crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: I just created a new amarokcollection using the mysql backend04:42
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: sounded like you compiled a new amarok package that is working fine with mysql... was I wrong?04:42
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: ah! :)04:42
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: well mine is still refusing to build anything :/04:43
crimsunfresh feisty or dist-upgraded?04:43
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: fresh04:44
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Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: amd64 btw...04:44
crimsunwhat was your starting point? Mine was Herd-3.04:44
Captain_Redbeardso was mine04:44
Captain_Redbeardblew it fresh just a couple of days ago...04:45
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crimsunwell, I'd try to debug further, but I need to get back to work04:45
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Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: thank you for your attention anyway mate04:45
revdjenkCaseyOmah:   You need to use 'dpkg-reconfigure' command which reconfigures packages04:45
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crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: try starting with amarok afresh04:46
crimsunmeaning:04:46
revdjenkjust like when first installatiion04:46
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Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: already done it a zillion times i'm afraid :(04:47
crimsunmv ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok.bak && mv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc.bak04:47
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: yup done it :/04:47
crimsunCaptain_Redbeard: have you enabled logging in /etc/mysql/my.cnf, restarted mysql, done the above, and tried?04:48
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Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: not logging no, I kinda figured it's something messed up with amarok since it doesn't work with sqlite either... but I can give it a go04:48
crimsunI can now vouch that all three backends work from a fresh 1.4.5 install04:48
crimsun[2:1.4.5-0ubuntu2, that is] 04:48
crimsunnone of my collection is on an smb share, however04:49
Captain_Redbearduhm uhm04:49
Captain_Redbeard1.4.5-0ubuntu104:49
crimsunuh yeah.04:49
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crimsunsee what sarah and I said above kthx.04:49
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crimsunit's bug 83454 if you're wondering04:50
blortchhm.  weird.04:50
blortchcan't say i like konversation.  back to xchat.04:50
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: ah :) But then it's weird that I can't upgrade the package and it's not reported outdated04:50
crimsunit's definitely available. Anyhow, I've to return to work.04:51
Captain_Redbeardcrimsun: yea I wont keep you any longer, thank you for your help man04:51
zblachhibernation gives me a -16 error. it fails to shutdown some usb device. what can I do to remedy this?04:51
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MagicFabjoin #kubuntu04:59
MagicFaboups :)04:59
MagicFabwhat would be the package for the Printer system settings in KDE ?04:59
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draikOk05:00
draikSo I have realized 1 of 2 thingws05:00
draikerr05:00
draikthings05:00
draikEither I'm going to be very busy for a while or just going out of my mind05:01
MagicFabactually... "printers" in  'system settings'05:01
deathnotehi what's the best ssh tool for windows ?05:01
draikdeathnote: I'm using ummm... lemme check05:01
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draikdeathnote: rdesktop05:02
draik!rdesktop | deathnote05:02
ubotudeathnote: rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB05:02
ScottKdeathnote: I always liked using ssh itself with cygwin.05:02
draikdeathnote: We also use rDesktop at work whenever we need to remote into the linux box from win05:02
draikSo yea... where was I?...05:03
deathnotedraik: oh..ok thanks i'll try05:03
draikOh yea05:03
draiknp deathnote05:03
draikI need some major input on this05:03
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draikI am planning on creating a big computer central05:03
deathnoteis it free? rdp05:04
draikI want to have 8 computers hooked up to one keyboard/mouse/monitor05:04
draikdeathnote: Yes05:04
deathnotei try to search rdp .. but not sure which one u talking.. u know which link to d/l ?05:04
deathnoteremote desktop connection or05:04
draikI was planning on 9 desktops, but I could only find a KVM by multiples of 2 so there you have it05:04
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draikdeathnote: sudo apt-get install rdesktop05:05
deathnotedraik: i need it for windows05:05
deathnoteas in.. windows ssh client05:05
cpk1draik: you should be able to get bigger KVM's but they start getting expensive05:05
draikdeathnote: ZIP! Sorry, can't help you there05:05
deathnoteah?05:06
draikcpk1: I originally wanted to set it up so that I could have a 3x3 monitor type thing05:06
deathnotewhat's rDesktop? is it a client for windows to log into linux?05:06
draikEach one has their own monitor and such05:06
deathnotewhat's rDesktop? is it a client for windows to log into linux via ssh ?05:06
bonbonthejondeathnote: you use putty in windows for ssh05:07
cpk1draik: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681740400705:07
draikThen I came to the conclusion that I want them to have their own monitor, but also wanted 1 of my own monitors so that I can just move from one to the other05:07
cpk1draik: wait, you want to use more than one monitor?05:07
draikThank you cpk105:07
draikYuppers05:07
deathnoteojh putty ok05:07
deathnotehow u use putty ? just putty hostname?05:07
bonbonthejondeathnote: did you download putty05:08
cpk1draik: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817107254 thats a little more of what you want05:08
cpk1but note the price =O05:08
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draikthank you05:08
draiklet me see05:08
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draikHmmm05:10
draikI dunnot05:10
draik*dunno05:10
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draikBecause my idea has gone from 9 computers to 8 computers, 1 Keyboard, 1 mouse, 9 monitors (8x 15in flat screens, 1x 21in flat screen)05:11
pulaskihello05:12
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bonbonthejonhi05:12
pulaskiI'm having trouble connecting to a repository using apt-get05:12
draikcpk1: But with the last link you sent me, I might be able to stick with 9 computers05:12
bonbonthejonpulaski: post the erro05:12
draikand have 1 monitor as my main05:12
bonbonthejonr05:12
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pulaskithanks05:13
cpk1draik: if you can afford almost $300 US for something like that then more power to you =D05:13
draikI can05:13
pulaskihttp://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (88.191.33.6), connection timed out05:13
draikcpk1: I know my fiance will just look at me and be like, WTF?!?!?!05:13
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pulaskiI don't think its serious just the server is down? perhaps I should try later...05:14
cpk1draik: I know the feeling XD05:14
cpk1and the reaction from the SO05:14
draikYup05:14
bonbonthejonpulaski: yeah05:14
pulaskithanks bobothejon05:15
draikIn all reality she'll probably just call me a kid and let me do my thing05:15
draikpulaski: BoBo is a clown. He's BonBon05:15
cpk1i try not to say *exactly* how much I spent05:15
pulaskigood enough for me.  Thanks bonbonthejon05:16
Nukedhow do I set conky so that it doesnt overlap my icons?05:16
draikcpk1: In case I missed it, Thank you for your quick research05:16
pulaskisorry05:16
bonbonthejonpulaski: :)05:16
cpk1draik: no problem, i was thinking about using kvms a while back but they get expensive real quick05:16
pulaskicya05:16
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Nukedso how do I do that? any ideas?05:17
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froodHow can I get the bouncing cow screen saver back. It isn't on 6.1005:18
draikfrood: Let me know when you find it. That sounds interesting05:18
draikcpk1: I think the hardest of it all will be the fact that one of them will be my webserver05:19
froodThey removed it because people found it 'offensive'05:20
revdjenkthat is 'udderly' ridiculous05:20
draikLOL @ revdjenk05:21
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draikHow is a bouncing cow "offensive"?05:21
revdjenkreminded ppl of New Orlean Mardi Gras?05:22
bonbonthejonthat was a good screen saver05:22
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Kamuiis there a command line utility that I can use to batch convert a ton of video files into dvd suitable video?05:23
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Kamuior a command line utility that I can use to convert a single file? (then I can write a shell script to handle batch jobs)05:23
theshadowI'm having an issue I'm not sure my Radeon x800 mobility is being used correctly (at least the hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be there) when I run fglrxinfo I get the following response05:24
draikcpk1: http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/product_info.php?products_id=37329705:24
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theshadowXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". display: :0.0  screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)05:24
theshadowcan anyone give me a hand?05:24
Kamuitheshadow: turn composite off for starters05:24
bonbonthejonKamui: hold on, I know I had seen a program for that05:24
Kamuithat got my radeon working using fglrx with accelleration05:25
draikwell, I think I might know why it's not on the new version 6.1005:25
adwelini need a tutorial on kde05:25
draikThe cow's flashed a flaccid penis05:25
theshadowKamui: how do I turn it off?05:25
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Kamuitheshadow: add this tot he end of your xorg.conf05:25
KamuiSection "Extensions"05:25
Kamui        Option      "Composite" "Disable"05:25
KamuiEndSection05:25
Kamuithen restart your xserver05:25
theshadowok05:26
bonbonthejonKamui: look into mencode05:26
Kamuibonbonthejon: sweet!05:26
bonbonthejonKamui: mencoder*05:26
KamuiI've been trying to use devede with very little success05:26
bonbonthejondraik: I dont remember that part of the cow screen saver05:26
draikLet me get you the link bonbonthejon05:27
Nukedok lets try something different... how do I make conky show hddtemp if my hd is /dev/sda3?05:27
draik"In particular, people pointed out a "flaccid penis" label/option in the glsnake screensaver, the bouncing cow screensaver, and some chemistry models of drug ..."05:27
draikbonbonthejon: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/cc-meeting-special-20041018-summary.html05:28
NukedNO one knows?05:28
bonbonthejondraik:  I remember the drug model05:28
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Nukedmy god, getting help is like pulling teeth sometimes05:30
valuedcustomerhello.  how do i disable guidance-powermanager from running at startup?05:31
cpk1draik: that only has one monitor output though05:31
revdjenkhah, draik05:31
bonbonthejonNuked: I've never heard of conky, I just looked it up05:31
cpk1but it is alot cheaper =)05:31
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Nukedbonbonthejon, at least you looked :)05:31
bonbonthejonNuked: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/conky-a-light-weight-system-monitor-for-ubuntu-linux-systems.html looks like it shows the configuration file05:32
draikrevdjenk: ???05:32
revdjenkflaccid penis would make a good name for a band05:32
bonbonthejonNuked: conky looks like its for gnome, why not use something for KDE05:32
draikLOL05:32
Nukedits independent of both05:32
NukedLMAO @ revdjenk05:32
revdjenkhey draik, Nuked you on lappy?05:33
revdjenkI need help with my rt250005:33
draikwell, there is a song called "Detachable Penis" by King Missile05:33
draikrevdjenk: I'm on both. Desktop for everything but chats05:33
Nukedrevdjenk, no05:33
draikrevdjenk: why?05:33
cpk1Nuked: you could look into superkaramba apps for system monitors05:33
Nukedbonbonthejon, that config was useless but thank you for the effort05:34
revdjenkwell, when I try to enable, the computer almost slows to a stop05:34
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cpk1Nuked: also gkrellm is nice and lightweight05:34
draikenable what?05:34
revdjenkseems to work in 2-4 second spurts05:34
Kamuibonbonthejon: question, can I make svcd movie files, but put them on a dvd to store MORE videos?05:34
Nukedcpk1, I put work into translating the conky config and customized it quite nicely05:34
theshadowAlright... I can't tell a difference how can I check if the hardware acceleration is working?05:34
revdjenkenable wifi05:34
Kamuibonbonthejon: or do I just have to encode at a lower video bitrate05:34
Nuked!glxinfo05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glxinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
Nuked!glx05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
Nukedthat sucks05:35
draikSorry, revdjenk, I don't use wifi05:35
revdjenkyep05:35
cpk1Nuked: well you can put work into the superkaramba widgets to customize them =p hehe, but i know nothing about conky05:35
revdjenkah05:35
bonbonthejonKamui: I never made a DVD, I just knew it was used to convert movies05:35
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revdjenkI have to re-boot to get back to normal05:36
Nukedcpk1, thanks05:36
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Nukedhere is what im talking about05:36
Nukeddev, (host,(port))05:36
theshadowyea I don't think its working I ran glxgears and its moving slower than dirt05:36
Nukedso hddtemp dev, (host,(port))05:36
theshadowXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".05:36
theshadowand I'm getting that error05:36
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Nukeddo I leave dev as is, remove it, or add the location of the drive I want to monitor05:36
Kamuibonbonthejon: ok, well thanks, Im trying a batch command now, looks like this is gonna be an overnight job... ;)05:37
Nukedthis sucks05:37
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theshadow!fglrx05:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:42
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siconsolehi guys..help i got this error ->05:48
siconsoleGLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:135: failed to allocate 1864512424 bytes05:48
siconsoleaborting...05:48
siconsoleAborted (core dumped)05:48
siconsoleafter i uninstall amarok05:48
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AxlRoseis there a way to adjust the volume in Adobe Flash player06:01
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theshadow!fglrx06:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:10
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theshadowOk I don't get this. when I run "fglrxinfo" it shows libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering display: :0.0  screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)06:26
theshadowbut when I run "sudo fglrxinfo" it says display: :0.0  screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string:  Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)06:27
theshadowwhat am I doing?06:27
theshadowwrong?06:27
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AxlRoseis there a way to adjust the volume in Adobe Flash player06:31
theshadowAxlRose: No... its really annoying06:32
AxlRosetheshadow:  definately.  I was trying to watch a couple of different things...and I had my speakers all the way up and i could barely hear  it06:32
theshadowAxlRose: whats worse is that I think when they convert it to flash video format that it sometimes screws up the audio levels causing those kinds of things06:33
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deathnotehi, can anyone tell me how i check who is log into my system from ssh???06:54
deathnoteis there a log or something06:54
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deathnoteanyone there?06:56
underdog5004deathnote, lemme google around...06:57
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underdog5004deathnote, http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/log_message_reference.html06:58
AxlRoseanyone here know much about the fortune program06:58
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underdog5004!fortune06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:58
underdog5004AxlRose, what is it used for?06:58
AxlRoseunderdog5004: it displays little fortune cookie sayings haha06:59
underdog5004rofl, what's the problem you're having?06:59
AxlRoseno problem...i just wondering how to get it to show up on login with Konsole07:00
AxlRosei know it's possible because on slackware it does07:00
underdog5004I believe you can get it to start by putting a symlink  in /home/username/.kde/startup07:00
underdog5004not sure about the path, though....07:01
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underdog5004oh, looks like it's only for CLI...07:01
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deathnotethanks underdog reading now07:01
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underdog5004deathnote, np07:02
AxlRoseya...I wanted it for Konsole07:02
dawnis there a good flv player?07:02
AxlRoselike when you open konsole07:02
AxlRoseno biggy though07:02
AxlRosedawn: I use mplayer07:02
underdog5004AxlRose, hmm, each time you open one up?07:02
dawnk07:02
alvincevDo I have to go to the command line interface to change the screen resolution in Kubuntu?07:02
underdog5004alvincev, nope, just use the gui07:02
deathnoteunderdog5004: i don't understand..are there any logs?07:02
AxlRoseunderdog5004: yes07:02
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AxlRosealincev: go to system settings07:03
underdog5004deathnote, lol, lemme read those pages...07:03
alvincevI couldn't find the section for screen resolution in System Settings07:03
alvincevNever mind07:03
alvincevI found it07:03
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firecrotchdeathnote: /var/log/auth.log07:04
dawnhmmmm mplayer not working for me07:04
dawn:()(07:04
underdog5004deathnote, ok, are you looking to find what commands they are running or just login attempts07:04
dawn:(\07:04
deathnoteis it /var/log/lastlog ?07:04
AxlRosedawn: it doesn't work for anything or just flv07:04
deathnoteunderdog5004: hopefully both.. like..erm..when and what time they logged in07:04
deathnoteand perhaps the ip addresses07:04
unix_infidelit should be in logs.07:05
firecrotchdeathnote: auth.log will show the IP and time07:05
dawnI downloaded some flv clips07:05
AxlRosedawn: yes...but does mplayer play other videos07:05
deathnoteooo ok but seems like no ip addresses07:05
unix_infideldeathnote: who would tell you who is logged in.07:06
unix_infidelit will present you with their reverse DNS.07:06
dawnyes07:06
underdog5004deathnote, I don't know, but if you're looking for the commands executed, then check out the .bash_history in the home folder07:06
dawnkaffeine works :)07:06
unix_infidelerm, `who`07:06
deathnoteohhh07:06
unix_infidel^notice the backtick07:06
deathnoteok who is good07:07
unix_infidelyou can parse their Rev DNS by grep.07:07
unix_infideland then you can find out who is logged in from a remote domain.07:07
unix_infideljust pipe it :)07:07
deathnotegreat.. .bash_history does it..thanks07:07
underdog5004yay, I helped!07:07
unix_infideldeathnote: i think `w` is what you're more looking for.07:08
dawndawn no sound07:08
dawnDarn07:08
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unix_infidelits a much more detailed account of your user activity.07:08
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unix_infidelyou who as a simple display to tell which users are remote and which are local,07:08
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AxlRosedawn: i still say use mplayer07:09
deathnotewhat's the ftp port?07:10
unix_infidel2107:10
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deathnoteby default is the ftp server on?07:10
WiiDANIR ?07:11
deathnotemy ssh is up for pple to ssh in from port 2207:11
deathnotenot sure if ftp07:11
unix_infideli just told you above.07:11
underdog5004I think the ssh server is on by default...07:11
underdog5004deathnote, what's your ip?07:11
alvincevI'm trying to change the screen resolution on my desktop, and I am at the "Monitor & Display - System Setting", when I hit the 'Adminitrator Mode...' button, a red box shows up, but it doesn't ask me for my password.  Has anybody ever run into this?07:12
unix_infidel210.193.58.17507:12
unix_infidelunderdog5004: ^^^07:12
underdog5004mind if I come in?07:12
unix_infidelthat's his IP07:12
deathnoteunderdog5004: wait.. hehe i've port forward07:13
deathnoteok07:13
deathnoteshould be 210.193.58.17507:13
deathnoteu try ssh07:13
deathnotei see if i can see the auth.log07:13
unix_infidelWHOA!07:13
_jriveraalvincev, a popup will show and it will ask for your root password before you could get in administrator mode...07:13
unix_infideldo not let anonymous users ssh into your system!07:13
underdog5004lol, connection closed by remote host...07:13
alvincevactually, it just sits there and no popup shows up, but it shows up when I hit the button on the other settings07:13
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unix_infidelhttp://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=189.007:14
unix_infidelTry using that tutorial.07:14
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unix_infidelOr for casual tests http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=221.007:14
dettoaltrimenti_is there a free unraring program for kubuntu?07:15
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AxlRosedawn: what part of mplayer doesn't work fo ru07:16
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OlgaBI'm trying to get a relatively old USB camera to work in linux07:16
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AxlRosedettoaltrimenti_: unrar07:21
firecrotchOlgaB: Is it a mass storage device camera?07:21
OlgaBfirecrotch: I'm not sure, apparently it's a Largan Chameleon XP07:22
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ubuntuhola07:22
ubuntualgn venezolano?07:22
AxlRoseuh oh it's got xp in the name....that means it's unsupported :P07:22
OlgaB:p07:22
ubuntuo venezolana?07:23
ubuntupreferiblemente venezolana07:23
ubuntujaja07:23
JucatoEnglish only please07:23
ubuntuweno alguien que hable espaol?07:23
underdog5004yo puedo07:24
underdog5004!es07:24
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:24
ubuntusomebody can speak spanish?07:24
Jucatoubuntu: ^^^07:24
ubuntuhola underdog07:24
underdog5004ubuntu, necisitas hacer esta: /join #kubuntu-es07:24
firecrotchOlgaB: plug it in to the computer and give us the output of tail dmesg07:24
unix_infidel!es07:25
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:25
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unix_infideloh wow, i need to increase the size of my buffer, sorry :(07:25
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inteliwasp!qt07:27
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications07:27
OlgaBcan I paste messages?07:27
inteliwasp!gui07:27
ubotuThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)07:27
underdog5004!pastebin07:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:27
OlgaBthree lines07:27
JucatoOlgaB: use pastebin ^^^07:27
inteliwaspi am not shure witch qt version i need, 3 or 4   i am useing 6.06107:28
dettoaltrimenti_is there a free unraring program for kubuntu?07:28
OlgaBhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4822/plain/07:28
Jucatointeliwasp: for what?07:29
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dettoaltrimenti_unrar is not free07:29
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: by non-free, it means that unrar isn't released under an open source license.07:29
dettoaltrimenti_oh, ok07:29
inteliwaspJucato: some insanely dependant program... it says it needs> = Qt 3.207:30
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: everything in the repositories in monetarily free07:30
dettoaltrimenti_so free as in beer, but not as in freedom07:30
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: yes07:30
dettoaltrimenti_;) thanks07:30
Jucatointeliwasp: you are trying to compile something?07:30
inteliwaspyep07:30
firecrotchOlgaB: It looks to me as if it isn't a mass storage device07:30
Jucatointeliwasp: have you installed the "kde-devel" package?07:30
OlgaBhmm07:30
Jucatointeliwasp: but you probably only would need libqt3-mt-dev but I'm not entirely sure07:31
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inteliwaspJucato: not yet07:31
Jucatointeliwasp: KDE 3.x apps need Qt 3.x. only very very few would use Qt 407:31
inteliwaspJucato: ok, !!! 84 packages!!!07:32
firecrotchOlgaB: I tried to find a driver for it on Google, but nothing is turning up07:32
OlgaB:/07:32
Jucatointeliwasp: hm... try just libqt3-mt-dev, but I'm not sure if it will also ask for kdebase-dev and kdelibs4-dev07:33
inteliwaspJucato: it's ok... i'm gonna need them sooner or later07:33
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firecrotchOlgaB: Unfortunately this is one area that Linux is lacking in, simply because manufacturers don't care07:33
Jucatointeliwasp: if in case you encounter compiling something that complains about X, you need "xorg-dev"07:34
inteliwaspbeen there-done that07:34
inteliwasp:P07:34
Jucato:P07:34
underdog5004!proftp | deathnote07:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:34
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Jucato!proftpd07:35
ubotuproftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB07:35
Jucatounderdog5004: ^^^07:35
inteliwaspbtw, is there anything i could do to improve the sound on my box? considering i dont have use onf my mic...07:35
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fignewGRRR ARTSd is pissing me off!07:35
underdog5004thank you07:35
fignewsound is completely busted... only works half the time, and only from one app: I've tried to turn it off from the sound options... everything breaks07:36
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inteliwasphuh... i have the same sor of problem, almost fignew07:36
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fignewyea :(07:37
elyon225Hey everyone.  Just curious if someone could tell me how to install the Quicktime plugin for firefox.07:37
Jucatoelyon225: try one of the mozilla plugins, like mozilla-mplayer07:37
Gretlperhaps firefox can self install its plugins07:37
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Jucatoextensions,yes. plugins, not so sure07:38
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elyon225Gretl: The linux version of Firefox sucks at automatically installing plugins.07:38
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elyon225Jucato: Will give that a shot... thanks.07:39
Jucatobecause plugins are programs, and you're basically installing programs... which Firefox itself might not know how...07:39
justMattHey - all my fonts in Konqueror and Firefox are too big, and it is messing with web sites, any issues?07:39
JucatojustMatt: Firefox has its own font settings. For Konqueror, try Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Fonts07:40
elyon225Jucato: Hey, you've always been a big help to me.  I have another question.  KWallet has been uninstalled, but I still have applications griping about trying to access it.  Any idea how to prevent that?07:40
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inteliwaspJucato: um, i compiled the program, where do i find it?07:40
Jucatointeliwasp: unless you used --prefix=/somewhere/else, it would be in /usr/bin (at least the executable)07:41
inteliwaspJucato: hrmm... not there07:41
Jucatoelyon225: kwallet is inclluded in kdelibs. you can't uninstall it, you only uninstalled the manager. anyway, press Alt+F2, kcontrol, Security & Privacy -> KDE Wallet -> uncheck the Enable wallet subsystem07:42
Jucatointeliwasp: hm... not really sure.. what was the full ./configure command you used?07:42
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Jucatointeliwasp: btw, what did you compile?07:42
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inteliwaspkpodder, and i only used ./configure07:43
OlgaBbrb07:43
Jucatohm...07:43
inteliwaspso i need sudo?07:43
Jucatono...07:44
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=== Jucato isn't familiar w/ the app...
Wii?07:44
inteliwaspare you familliar with bashpodder?07:44
Jucatois it an app that you run by itself?07:44
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inteliwaspJucato: 1 sec...07:45
Jucatointeliwasp: try this command in Konsole: which kpodder07:45
inteliwaspJucato: http://www.leonscape.co.uk/linux/kpodder/07:45
Jucatoyeah I'm there07:45
inteliwaspnada...07:45
elyon225Jucato: Hmm...I've looked in KControl and I don't see anything that indicates KWallet.07:46
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Jucatoelyon225: KControl -> Security & Privacy -> KDE Wallet ?07:46
inteliwaspoh wait07:46
inteliwaspi found it07:46
inteliwaspi think...07:46
elyon225Jucato: yeah, the furthest I get is KControl -> Security & Privacy ... there is no entry there fro KDE Wallet.07:46
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Jucatohm...07:47
inteliwaspnope07:47
elyon225Only Crypto, Password & User Account, and Privacy.07:47
elyon225Jucato: And I've looked under each of those... no reference to the wallet.07:47
Jucatohm....07:48
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vinboy_i download the Feisty CD, how do I upgrade my currently ubuntu to feisty?07:48
Jucatoelyon225: so it's still asking you about kwallet, or just asking you for you password?07:48
firecrotchvinboy_: First, are you sure you want to? Feisty is still REALLY unstable07:49
Jucatovinboy_: 1) which installer did you download (Desktop or Alternate) and 2) it's not recommended to upgrade now to Feisty unless you're going to do develoment-related work07:49
inteliwaspJucato: i found it...07:49
elyon225Jucato: For example, when I run Kopete, it will come up and ask for my Kwallet password...07:49
Jucatolike bug hunting, fixing, testing (not for curiosity testing)07:49
Jucatoelyon225: is it asking for your kwallet password or your IM account password?07:49
inteliwaspJucato: but there are 2 "kpodder" and "kpodder.sh"07:50
vinboy_Jucato: i downloaded Desktop07:50
Jucatovinboy_: you can't use that to upgrade to Feisty07:50
stdinvinboy_: you can't upgrade from the desktop install cd07:50
Jucatovinboy_: you can only do a fresh install using that07:50
elyon225Jucato: It says that Kopete is trying to access the KDE wallet... please enter your wallet password.07:50
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Jucatoelyon225: oh.. hm... have you tried running "kwalletmanager"?07:51
Jucatoelyon225: this is getting weird...07:51
elyon225Jucato: Just did... no such command.07:51
Jucatointeliwasp: I'm not sure which of the two... are they both in /usr/bin?07:51
underdog5004I personally hate the Kwallet07:51
vinboy_oh ic07:51
Jucatoelyon225: sorry, I'm out of ideas07:51
vinboy_thanks guys07:51
elyon225Jucato: Just tried running Kopete again, and yep...it says it's trying to access kdewallet.07:52
inteliwaspJucato: they are in /usr/local/kde/bin07:52
Jucatovinboy_: it's also not recommended to use feisty right now... better wait at least until beta07:52
underdog5004use Edgy07:52
elyon225Which is so strange, since I never saved passwords to the wallet and have since removed the "kdewallet" package.07:52
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Jucatointeliwasp: ah... try running the "kpodder" one (if it's executable)07:52
elyon225...yet another Kubuntu oddity that makes no sense :)07:52
inteliwaspJucato: they are both exacutable...07:52
Jucatointeliwasp: most probably the "kpodder" one07:53
Jucatook /me gotta go07:53
vinboy_Jucato07:53
inteliwaspbye07:53
vinboy_Jucato: when is beta coming?07:53
stdin!feisty07:53
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+107:53
stdinvinboy_: look at the schedule07:53
Jucatovinboy_: see the FeistyReleaseSchedule ^^^^07:53
vinboy_ok07:53
Jucatook bbl07:53
vinboy_thanks07:53
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: where can I find info about printing in the system settings?07:58
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GretlAdmiral_Chicago: k-menu System printer07:59
_jriverakudos to all kubuntu users08:00
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Admiral_ChicagoGretl: trying now08:00
AyabaraI need help making bluetooth work on my ibm lenovo r60. I the howto, but I can't find any bt devices with hcitool dev. I activated bt with hotkeys after boot. could that be a problem?08:01
Admiral_Chicagohmm, on Edgy?08:01
_jriverai am using kubuntu on my home pc.. its great! i didnt have to install any drivers anymore not like in windows...08:01
Admiral_Chicago_jrivera: yup, I love that08:01
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_jriveraits a lot easier and the desktop looks great too..08:02
AyabaraAdmiral_Chicago, I'm on edgy, if the Q was for me :-)08:02
Admiral_ChicagoAyabara: no that was my question about printing08:02
borstenhi08:03
GretlAdmiral_Chicago: you see all the system settings?08:03
borstenive a problem with adept08:03
Admiral_ChicagoGretl: yes08:04
elyon225OKay, so here's another silly question:  How would I go about capturing video of my desktop? (Specifically, I'd like to capture Beryl in action for a friend of mine).  What program is used for that?08:04
Gretlso lets hope it has a printer driver for you that works08:04
borsteni wanted to install wine, but when i mak it for installation its red and says (break)08:04
underdog5004!istanbul08:05
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB08:05
underdog5004that's for you, elyon225 ^^^08:05
elyon225underdog5004: Thank you.08:05
Admiral_Chicagono, i know how to do that. i'm looking for a printer on my LAN08:05
_jriverawhat would be a good firewall software for kubuntu?08:05
theshadow!beryl08:06
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:06
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stdin!firewall | _jrivera08:06
ubotu_jrivera: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:06
elyon225underdog5004: Hmm...that's a gnome app.  I'd prefer not to install so many gnome packages... any alternatives?08:06
dettoaltrimenti_who decides what programs to put in the repositories I see in adept?08:06
underdog5004no idea...do a apt-cache search08:06
stdinborsten: close adept, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get isntall wine" if there are errors post them to pastebin08:06
stdin!pastebin | borsten08:07
ubotuborsten: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:07
elyon225dettoaltrimenti_: That's something I've always wondered about myself.  I'm working on a program that I'd like in the reps eventually... but have no idea who to talk to lol08:07
borstenthx08:07
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stdindettoaltrimenti_, elyon225: MOTU (masters of the universe) #ubuntu-motu08:08
Admiral_Chicagoelyon225: what is the program08:08
Admiral_Chicagoelyon225: the MOTU really08:08
Admiral_Chicagoeh whatever, i have my own work to do08:08
Jucatodepends. the core devs decides what goes into main and restricted, while MOTU decides what goes into universe and multiverse08:08
elyon225Admiral_Chicago: What I'm working on currently is an advanced, yet user-friendly frontend to DosBox...  the frontends I've found so far are pretty pathetic.08:09
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_jriverais apache, mysql and php pre-installed in kubuntu?? can i install it using apt-get? or do i have to download a package??08:10
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devilsadvocate!lamp _jrivera08:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lamp _jrivera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:10
Jucato!lamp | _jrivera08:10
ubotu_jrivera: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:10
devilsadvocatehmm08:11
devilsadvocateah08:11
Jucatodevilsadvocate: you forgot the pipe08:11
devilsadvocatetypo08:11
devilsadvocate:)08:11
Jucatothat's what they all say :P08:11
roverni have many packages in the apt cache and i want to remove some, but not all. how do i remove only those packages that are not currently installed?08:11
elyon225Hey, it was just a typo when I ran sudo rm -r / :P08:12
elyon225...would that even do anything? lol08:12
stdinrovern: why would you want to do that?08:12
Jucatoelyon225: please do not give others an idea08:12
rovernstdin: what is your better idea?08:12
elyon225Jucato: Apparently it WOULD be a bad thing :P08:12
Jucatorovern: what do you mean?08:12
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stdinrovern: apt-cache shows the packages that are available to install08:13
rovernJucato: apt-get saves all debs that are installed. some of them i uninstalled in the meantime, but the package is still in the cache08:13
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stdinrovern: ahh, "sudo apt-get clean" is what you want08:13
rovernstdin: my hdd is full and i want to selectively clean some of the debs08:13
Jucatorovern: sudo apt-get clean <--- will clean the apt cache archives08:13
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WiiDANIR ???08:14
Jucatothere's no need for those debs once installed..08:14
Wiihas anyone seen DANIR ?08:14
devilsadvocatelol elyon22508:14
devilsadvocatehow is the server cd installation process different in edgy+ ?08:14
rovernstdin, Jucato: yes, but i want to clean them *selectively*: only those packages that are not installed anymore (which means i am not interested in them)08:14
stdinrovern: see "man apt-get" for more usage insfo08:14
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Jucatorovern: why? for what do you need the packages for those you installed already?08:15
stdinrovern: once you install them, why do you need the debs?08:15
rovernJucato: to copy them to another machine at a later time08:15
rovernstdin: to copy them to another machine at a later time08:15
Jucatohm...08:15
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rovernstdin, Jucato: i hate redownloading, especially on a slow line08:15
borstenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4825/08:16
Jucatounfortunately, I don't think that's a solution to what you want to do. merely copying over .debs to another machine won't work the way apt-get'ing them does08:16
rovernJucato: it will! i simply copy them to that folder and apt-get will think it has just downloaded them08:17
rovernJucato: i trick it08:17
Jucatohm... if you say so...08:17
Jucatoanyway, I don't know if there's a way to selectively clean the cache...08:17
stdinborsten: heh, can you run "LANG=C sudo apt-get install wine" , so I get the messages in english :)08:17
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devilsadvocaterovern, are you on a network, a lan of some sort?08:17
Jucatotry the apt-get man page08:17
rovernJucato: i've been doing this for weeks, it's just that now there are too many packages and i need some selection08:17
borstenoh, sorry08:17
roverndevilsadvocate: yes08:17
devilsadvocaterovern, you could take a look at http-replicator and apt-proxy08:18
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roverndevilsadvocate: thanks08:18
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rovernJucato, stdin: thanks08:18
_jriveramy kubuntu box is not connected to the net and i intend to download packages through my windows pc at work is it ok?08:19
devilsadvocaterovern, its not what you came asking for, but im on a university network too and we found it was much easier that way08:19
rovernaha08:19
devilsadvocaterovern, initiall used http-replicato, now using deb-mirror to just mirror the whole repository08:19
devilsadvocatebecause we had enough users to justify it08:19
stdin_jrivera: yeah, you can use "apt-get --print-uris install <package>" to get apt-get to print the URLs of the debs and where to save them08:20
roverni see08:20
devilsadvocate_jrivera, sure.08:20
borstennow08:20
rovernthis solution sounds nice08:20
elyon225So I ordered a bunch of Ubuntu Dapper CD's.  I have a few OLD systems I'd like to install them onto and sell at a garage sale.  Is it a big problem if they have no internet access?08:20
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amikhi08:21
devilsadvocaterovern, if you are behind a http proxy which requires authentication you will need to change one line in http - replicator08:21
stdinborsten: use wine, not libwine08:21
roverndevilsadvocate: i will try to figure it out, thank you08:21
mackinacapprox. how long should it take to load the kubuntu liveCD on a PIII - 1 GHz + 128 MB ram box? ... It has been sitting with the desktop wallpaper and silver bar at the bottom for like ten minutes , cdrom still spinning and reading08:21
amiksay I run apt-get update/upgrade and there are a bunch of updates, how/where can I see a changelog of what's included in these updates?08:21
devilsadvocatemackinac, i dont think thats enough ram to run the live cd. It'll take too long for comfort08:22
Jucato!changelogs08:22
ubotuchangelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com08:22
Jucatoamik: ^^^08:22
stdinamik: you can use "aptitude changelog <package>" too08:22
Jucatoamik: the next version of Adept will include a changelog viewer08:22
borstenstdn: now its correct?08:22
mackinacdevilsadvocate, it said 128 was min requirement08:22
Jucatostdin: lol kool didn't know that :)08:22
_jriverahow do i get php-mysql, im using kubuntu ryt now...08:22
_jriveraphp-mysql package08:22
amik10x a lot guys (what a quick response!) I'll check it out...08:22
Jucato!lamp | _jrivera08:22
ubotu_jrivera: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:22
devilsadvocatemackinac, .. hmm.. i seem to remember it as 19208:23
mackinacdevilsadvocate, maybe thats just for actual install?08:23
stdinJucato: yeah, found it while looking at the man page a while ago08:23
devilsadvocatemackinac, i doubt it. the install doesnt need ram, the live cd does08:23
mackinacdevilsadvocate, youre saying i could do normal install with zero ram? :p08:24
borstenstdin: now its correct?08:24
stdinborsten: it seems you don't have the universe repository enabled08:24
mackinacjust kidding08:24
borstenok, ill have a look08:24
devilsadvocatemackinac, it doesnt need so much ram. It _could_ be done on much less than 12808:24
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elyon225So I ordered a bunch of Ubuntu Dapper CD's.  I have a few OLD systems I'd like to install them onto and sell at a garage sale.  Is it a big problem if they have no internet access?08:25
amikin changelogs.ubuntu.com I have to check the packages one by one? is there some unified list, or at least a list with links to the individual package changes?08:26
borstennope, activated, inkl dep-src08:26
stdinborsten: you need a line starting "deb" not "deb-src"08:26
devilsadvocatemackinac, i suggest the alternate install cd for anything less than 25608:27
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borstenthanks, but ive both, "deb", and "dep-scr"08:28
mackinacdevilsadvocate, Okay, thanks!08:28
stdinamik: it's easier to use aptitude to get the changelog, which just downloads it from the changelog server08:28
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devilsadvocateborsten, the deb-src is needed if you are interested in compileing from sources08:29
borstenjeah, i know08:29
devilsadvocateborsten, if you dont want to compile than either way is fine08:29
devilsadvocatebut you need the deb- for the binary08:29
stdinborsten: so you have a line like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" ? (replace edgy for dapper on a dapper system)08:29
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borstenyeah, ive activated the "deb" too08:30
borstenok, wait08:30
borstenits dapper, but ive made an update yesterday, does this matter?08:31
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stdinno08:32
borstenhm, then its very strange08:33
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devilsadvocateborsten, you have a dapper install right?08:33
stdinborsten: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of "lsb_release -c" to pastebin for me08:34
borstenjeah08:34
deathnote!proftpd08:34
ubotuproftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB08:34
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Jucatostdin: don't you mean paste the output? :D08:35
stdinJucato: huh? isn't that want I said?08:36
Jucatoheh yeah... just not reading properly :P08:36
borstenlsb_release -c08:36
borstensorry, wrong window08:36
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devilsadvocatewhat is the development environment on kde called.. ? the ide ..08:37
borstennow08:37
devilsadvocateah08:38
stdinborsten: the url ?08:38
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borstenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4828/08:38
stdinborsten: ok, you should remove "backports" from "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse backports", then run "sudo apt-get update"08:39
devilsadvocateborsten, this might sound like a stupid question, but did you run apt-get update?08:40
Jucatostdin: huh?08:40
Jucatoah08:40
Jucatook didn't see that lol08:40
deathnotewhen i run proftpd i get  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'liverpool' error: No address associated with hostname08:40
stdinJucato: at the end of the line :)08:40
borstenno, just the adept-updater08:40
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deathnotemy computer name is liverpool.. what does it mean?08:40
devilsadvocateah. not sure what the update thingy on adept is :P08:40
underdog5004deathnote, it means your router isn't configured for IPv6...np08:41
devilsadvocatedeathnote, your hostname is set to 'liverpoo;'08:41
devilsadvocateliverpool*08:41
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deathnoteyup my hostname is liverpool08:41
underdog5004there are lines you can comment out to stop that.08:41
deathnoteand i don't have ipv608:41
underdog5004basically, comment out ipv6 lines in the conf fiel08:41
underdog5004file08:41
deathnoteu mean in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ?08:41
deathnoteok08:41
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deathnoteno it don't have ipv6 both /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf and module.conf08:42
pontusI was wondering, today there is an update available for the generic kernel. Why is that? where can I read about changes?08:42
underdog5004deathnote, I'm looking through mine right now...h/o08:42
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JucatoUpdates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now08:42
Jucatopontus: ^^08:43
devilsadvocatepontus, which distro?08:43
pontuspontus: kubuntu.08:43
stdinJucato: script ?08:43
Jucatostq08:43
Jucatostdin: command alias :)08:43
devilsadvocatesorry .. meant release :P . np08:43
stdinJucato: nice :P08:43
Jucatodevilsadvocate: affects dapper and edgy08:43
pontusdevilsadvocate: Edgy08:43
Jucatopontus: read above ^^^08:44
devilsadvocateJucato, i havent gotten any update in kernel packages..08:44
pontusJucato: ok. so there actually is no update?08:44
borstenstill the same problem08:44
Jucatodevilsadvocate: do you have -security or -updates repositories enabled?08:44
devilsadvocateJucato, yes08:45
devilsadvocatelet me run an update now08:45
Jucatopontus: well, it's a bit technical. but the problem is on the uploading side of the server, not on your system08:45
Jucatodevilsadvocate: packages "hit" are linux-image or linux-headers08:45
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stdinand the restricted modules, basically every kernel package08:45
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underdog5004deathnote, hmm, weird...I can't find it either...lemme look around some more08:46
deathnoteis it reversedns?08:46
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borstenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4828/08:46
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theshadow!beryl08:47
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:47
siconsolewhy dpkg --configure -a take so long..and make my cpu utilization go high T_T08:47
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pontusJucato: ok. Is thera a bugreport somewhere?08:48
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stdinpontus: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/8397608:48
Jucato:)08:48
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borstendevilsadvocate: adept should have done the same with "get updates", what i did everytime08:49
stdinborsten: did you remove the word "backports" from the end of line 26, then run "sudo apt-get update" ?08:49
deathnoteAnswer: This error is ProFTPD's way of reporting that it was unsuccessful in resolving hostname to an IP address. Fixing this is a matter of configuring DNS for that hostname: properly set up an IP address for that DNS name in your DNS server, use a DNS name that has an IP address, or (as a quick fix/last resort) add that DNS name to your /etc/hosts file. The proper solution depends largely on the circumstances. <-- how do i configure my DNS for that08:49
deathnotehostname ?08:49
borstenstdin: yes08:50
caris_meretoday there was an upgrade option with adept for linux-headers-386 and others, when I click get upgrade, it shows BREAK (upgrade). Is that fine?08:50
stdincaris_mere: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now08:50
pontusstdin: thank you08:50
borstenthe protocol is in the pastebin08:50
stdinJucato: I stole your message :P08:50
caris_merestdin: ok, thanks08:50
Jucatolol08:51
JucatoUpdates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates08:51
underdog5004deathnote, here we go, do this:     echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname08:51
stdinborsten: quick question I should have asked earlier, are you on Kubuntu 64bit ?08:52
borstenyes08:52
underdog5004then do these to make sure (do these seperately): hostname        hostname -f08:52
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stdinborsten: yeah, there is no 64bit wine package08:52
june_!upgrade08:52
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:52
borstengreat08:52
borstenso i cant use wine anyway?08:53
stdinunderdog5004: the redirect wont work (as it needs root), should use "echo Thing | sudo tee -a /place/to/append/to08:53
pontusSpeaking of updates. I really think there should be a note with each update motivating the need for it. Maybe there is? Am I missing it?08:53
stdinborsten: no, it's only available on x8608:53
underdog5004stdin, whoops, I'm just being a parrot. That's what I used for my server...08:53
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borstenstdin: is there any trick, that i can use the 32-bit-wine?08:54
june_borsten: are you on ppc?08:55
underdog5004!chroot | borsten08:55
ubotuborsten: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box08:55
stdinborsten: you can use a 32bin chroot08:55
stdin*32bit08:55
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june_amd64 is x86 compliant, i don't see why he couldn't run WINE08:55
borstenjune: im on amd 6408:55
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stdinjune_: because there is not amd64 package for it08:56
borstenrest: ill have a try08:56
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june_stdin: so? why can't he use the 386 package?08:56
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stdinjune_: never tried it, so I don't know08:57
june_does apt not allow you to download binary packages for different arches?08:57
borstenseems not, ive had already some problems with skype because of this08:59
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june_does the tutorial here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade  work well for upgrading kubuntu?  iirc the ubuntu update reccomended using the update manager to do the upgrading08:59
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stdinjune_: yeah, it works, or it wouldn't be there09:03
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stdinjune_: and you can't use the update manager, as it's not installed on Kubuntu, it's a Gnome/GTK app09:03
june_stdin: yeah so?  you can still install it09:04
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stdinjune_: yeah, but, like I said, it's not installed by default, and some people don't want to have to install all the extra libs and synaptic package to use it09:05
stdinjune_: btw, I do have it, as I perfir synaptic over adept09:05
june_i already installed synaptic, i loathe adept09:05
june_yeah09:05
stdinsnap :P09:05
stdinand I only use synaptic when I'm not using apt-get/aptitude09:06
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billhello09:07
june_yeah, normally i use GNOME, but this is my mother's computer, and i figured KDE would suit her better (XP was bugged beyond recognition) and i got a nice trial by fire with adept dying installing the sun-java5-jre packages09:07
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stdinjune_: yeah, I think that is fixed in later releases of adept, but I still hate it09:08
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june_honestly though i thought packages were required to have non-interactive installations09:08
Jucatostdin: yeah it has been fixed in Adept for feisty. have you seen the screenshot in Riddell's blog?09:08
Jucatoit even looks better than the terminal in synaptic09:09
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stdinJucato: probably, but I'm in feisty now, and I think I did install java in adept to see, and I could accept it09:09
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parkerw207guys anyone know why firefox takes so long to load for me ?09:10
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stdinjune_: some packages (multiverse ones mostly) need you to read and explicitly agree to a licence09:10
parkerw207it sits there saying its loading , then it just dissapears09:10
devilsadvocateparkerw207, firefox usually takes a bit of time to load, esp. if youre low on ram09:10
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june_parkerw207: try konqueror?09:10
parkerw207i shouldnt be i have 512 ram09:11
june_i'm not exactly a fan, but it should do fine for now09:11
devilsadvocatei was able to install the upgrade to linux-restricted modules09:11
mneisendevilsadvocate: How did you do that?09:12
mneisendevilsadvocate: I am curious, as I have failed to do so.09:12
devilsadvocateit just did it by itself. the other two kernel related packages have been held back, though09:12
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mneisenoic09:13
mneisenI am not that adventurous.09:13
mneisenI fear that when I update one part of the kernel related packages (f.e. the restrcited modules), my system will not com eup again.09:14
pgdowndo I need arts?09:16
pgdownis it even necessary?09:16
mneisenpgdown: Only if you want to hear something ... :-D09:16
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pgdownbut wouldn alsa take care of that?09:17
stdin!arts09:17
ubotuarts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB09:17
stdinarts used alsa09:17
stdin*uses09:17
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pgdownwhat uses arts for sound, though?09:17
stdinall the KDE apps09:18
stdinand system notifications09:18
JucatoKDE uses aRts for system notifications09:19
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Jucatoyou can set KDE to use a different player *BUT* you shouldn't uninstall arts packages09:19
xjpm100xcould someone help me?\09:19
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mneisenxjpm100x: depends on your problem ... :-)09:19
xjpm100xuh, well I'm trying to get Beryl to work09:19
pgdownso, if I were to remove arts, I'd lose system notification sound + sounds from apps that are arts-only?09:20
mneisen!beryl | xjpm100x09:20
ubotuxjpm100x: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:20
stdinxjpm100x: there is also #beryl09:20
xjpm100xI know what it is, got it installed, it just doesnt work09:21
xjpm100xI read the wiki page, followed every step on it09:21
stdinxjpm100x: what's the graphics hardware you have?09:21
xjpm100xATI Radeon 960009:22
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xjpm100x256MB09:22
stdinxjpm100x: and do you have the binary drivers installed, and XGL ?09:22
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pgdownso, how can I find the error output from x?09:24
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xjpm100xyes, installed everything I need09:24
stdinpgdown: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:24
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stdinxjpm100x: and do you have XGL running ?09:24
june_is using aptitude for a dist-upgrade a decent idea?09:25
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stdinjune_: yeah, helped me with some dependencies with dapper -> edgy before09:25
june_stdin: yeah i'm goin from dapper to edgy here09:26
june_it gave the solution a -486 though09:26
june_we'll see how it turns out09:26
xjpm100xI guess, have no idea to be honest, lmao09:26
xjpm100xI havent fucked with linux for a whiel and seen some vids or Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy with Beyrl and figured I could get back into it09:26
xjpm100xof*09:27
stdinjune_: one thing to look out for, it will remove all the xserver-xorg-driver-* packages, they have been renamed to xserver-xorg-video-*09:27
june_xjpm100x: what's your problem?09:27
june_stdin: thanks, i've got integrated intel on this comp, is the xorg driver still in a separate package?09:27
stdinxjpm100x: there is a guide to XGL here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl09:28
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stdinjune_: yeah, it's in xserver-xorg-video-i810 i think, but xserver-xorg-video-all (installed by default) depends on it09:28
june_thanks09:28
june_i'm thinking of installing beryl on this computer, dunno how well it'll do09:29
stdinjune_: I have intergrated intel, works great with aiglx09:29
june_yeah i09:30
june_'m not sure how old this one is though09:30
stdinjune_: I have an 845G, it's about 5 or 6 years old09:31
june_ah cool then, although i just looked at lspci and it said "VGA compatible device" and it said the manufacturer was VIA, so i dunno09:32
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sYniehello09:33
sYniedoes somebody know, if there is any pdf-viewer, which can edit 'editable textfields' ?09:34
mneisensYnie: acroread does.09:34
stdinjune_: one tip, you can put something like "VideoRam 65536" to the "Section "Device" " section, to get it to use 64mb as video ram09:35
stdinjune_: also have a look at "man via"09:35
sYniethanks alot :)09:37
stdin:)09:37
Phlostenanyone had a prob with a thumb drive reporting its full but you cant see any files on it?09:38
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deathnotehow do i find out more info of a website? like its country etc..nslookup?09:40
deathnotehow do i find out more info of a website? like its country etc..nslookup?09:40
stdinuse whois09:40
stdin!whois09:40
ubotuwhois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB09:40
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stdinand host09:40
stdin!host09:41
ubotuhost: utility for querying DNS servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 20000331-9 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 168 kB09:41
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darkparadoxcan anyone explain to a total linux noob how to install .rpm files on kubuntu lol09:41
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stdin!rpm09:41
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)09:41
darkparadoxhm, i was trying to install my nvidia drivers, and i downloaded the xorg sdk that i thought i was supposed to..it was rpm09:41
stdin!nvidia09:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:42
darkparadoxso now i suppose i'm totally lost again lmao09:42
june_darkparadox: no use the *.run installer off of nvidia's website, or use lupine's repository09:42
june_darkparadox: what card do you have?09:42
darkparadox7600 GT09:42
june_darkparadox: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9746.html09:43
darkparadoxyea i went in to recovery mode..09:43
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darkparadoxand did sh filename.whatever.run and it said it needed xorg sdk09:43
june_oh, well you need to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`   (those are backtics not single quotes) but it all should be described at the link ubotu gave09:44
darkparadoxalright thanks i'll try09:44
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june_yeah, that's not the xorg sdk, but you realyl shouldn't need that09:44
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darkparadoxi copied what you said and pasted it and it said..09:45
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darkparadoxE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:45
darkparadoxE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:45
stdinclose adept?09:45
june_darkparadox: do you have synaptic or adept open right now? the need to be closed09:45
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june_they*09:46
darkparadoxinstalled mesa-common-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dev apparently09:46
darkparadoxand thansk, yea synaptic was opn09:46
darkparadoxbut the drivers said i needed sdk, what should i do about that oor?09:47
tazzhey guys i had a qustion, i installed kubuntu 6.06 and distupgraded, so in /etc/apt/sources.list can i replace dapper with edgy?09:47
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june_try it again now, i don't know of any sdk09:47
june_there might be an xorg-dev package, but i never needed it09:48
stdin!upgrade | tazz09:48
ubotutazz: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)09:48
darkparadoxalright i guess i'll try and if not i'll be back lol, thank you guys09:48
june_darkparadox: well one sec09:48
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tazzthanks stdin09:48
june_you don't hafta go into recovery mode09:48
darkparadoxalright09:48
june_you can ctrl+alt+f1 and then login (username and password)09:49
darkparadoxi tried to install from just terminal and it said i needed to exit x server and stuff09:49
june_then you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"09:49
june_then after you've installed the drivers "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"09:49
june_and startx09:49
stdinnot startx, that's why you have a DM09:49
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parkerw207stdin is there a major upgrade available ?09:50
stdinparkerw207: what do you mean?09:50
darkparadoxalright i'll try ti then, brb09:50
stdinparkerw207: to Kubuntu, or to a package?09:50
parkerw207stdin i keep getting the little sign that i have not upgraded adept09:50
parkerw207in the corner09:50
parkerw207the kernel upgrades09:51
stdinwatch for the message...09:51
stdinparkerw207: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates09:51
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parkerw207thanks stdin :)09:51
stdinparkerw207: no problem, so many people have been asking, I've made a script to post that message :P09:52
pgdownwhat does it mean if you can connect to your router config page, but not load websites? dns problem?09:52
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june_pgdown: in the console try pinging www.google.com09:53
june_"ping www.google.com"09:53
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pgdownjune_ not a problem im having...just trying to answer a friends question09:53
stdinpgdown: if that don't work check "ping 66.249.93.104" (the IP of google.com) if you can, it's a dns issue09:54
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parkerw207hehe stdin09:54
june_pgdown: ah, are you communicating on AIM? if so it's probably DNS, since he's already connected to the aol.oscar server09:54
crazy_penguinHello to everyone!09:54
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pgdownthanks09:56
_6StringKng_so....my login screen resolution is different than that of when I login, anyway I could change that?09:56
parkerw207hello <crazy_penguin>09:56
_6StringKng_like, after x server is started and everything09:56
karmikazeanyone here use packet injection, specifically on madwifi drivers?09:58
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stdinparkerw207: you know there is tab-completion in konversation, so you can type part of a nickname and press tab to compleat it. eg park<TAB> goes to parkerw20709:58
Jucato!tab09:58
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:58
karmikazebtw netgear w311tge is a great pci wifi card :D worked right ouf of the box! :D09:59
stdinstandard in most irc clients :)09:59
geniusvickshow do I disable transparency ? Every program is transparent I cant read anything09:59
^sahibecek^where to find sourcee 4 kernell & gcc compiler 4  kubuntu 6.06 ??09:59
karmikazegeniusvicks: are you using beryl??09:59
stdin!source09:59
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html09:59
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geniusvickskarmikaze, no10:00
karmikazeumm how do you have transparency geniusvicks10:00
stdin!kernel source10:00
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages10:00
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pgdownI think someone should figure out how to preload firefox...like how you can preload konqueror.10:00
geniusvickskarmikaze, I hav no idea. I adjusted some settings yesterday. NO transparency then. TOday, now I switch on my pC everything is transparent10:00
karmikazethats kinda odd.. ive never heard of that happening. usually it takes a bit of effort to get true transparency going :P  are you still in kde?10:01
geniusvickskarmikaze, Ya. I went to systemsettings -> Appearance. THere I have disabled translucency too10:02
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Jucatogeniusvicks: System Settings -> Behavior -> look for the Translucency tab10:03
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geniusvicksJucato, thanks. Its opaque now.10:04
Jucatono problem10:05
geniusvicksJucato, does the percentage stand for opacity or translucency ?10:06
Jucatoopacity.10:06
Jucato100% = fully opaque10:06
geniusvicksFor Beryl do we need a grafix card?10:07
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stdingeniusvicks: no, intel chips work well10:08
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ssvsrkrhi10:08
Jucatogeniusvicks: you basically need hardware 3D acceleration10:08
Jucatothat depends on the drivers for your video card10:08
geniusvicksstdin, is 512 MB Ram and Celeron 2.4 ghz, intel 845gv mboard enough ?10:09
stdingeniusvicks: sounds like my system before I added some ram, and yeah, that that will work10:09
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geniusvicksstdin, thanks10:10
stdingeniusvicks: are you on dapper or edgy ?10:10
geniusvicksstdin, edgy10:10
stdingeniusvicks: it's quite simple then, just follow http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX10:11
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geniusvicksstdin, should I use aiglx or xgl ?10:13
ady33Hi does anyone know of a vista style sidebar for kubuntu?. Something that shows cpu/memory percentage etc.. I have had a look with my packet manager but not found anything yet... thanks10:13
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stdingeniusvicks: aiglx, it's faster and more advanced. that and xgl sux on intel chips :P10:14
rovernis there any way to force a kdialog window to show on top?10:14
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geniusvicksstdin, thanks. I misunderstood what was written on the page. I thought only ATI cards can use aiglx.10:15
stdinrovern: right click the title bar -> advanced -> keep above otheres10:15
rovernstdin: no, to force it from the script, so that it may appear on top anytime with no manual intervention10:15
stdingeniusvicks: nope, in fact it's the opposed, ATI cards are the only ones that can't use aiglx10:16
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stdinrovern: yeah, use kstart, like "kstart --ontop kdialog --msgbox hello"10:17
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rovernstdin: thanks a lot10:18
stdinrovern: no problem :)10:18
parkerw207park<tab>10:18
stdinparkerw207: <tab> = the tab key :)10:18
parkerw207haha i am too used to html tags!10:19
stdinheh :)10:19
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alfatauhello, i've a problem: i had to reinstall my linux box, and now i'm not able to get standard C headers' manpages, e.g. 'man stdlib.h' doesn't work. what have i to do?10:20
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stdinalfatau: /usr/include/stdlib.h is in libc6-dev and the man page is in manpages-posix-dev10:23
alfataustdin: what apt source to install manpages-posix-dev ??10:25
stdin!info manpages-posix-dev10:25
ubotumanpages-posix-dev: Manual pages about using a POSIX system for development. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (edgy), package size 1394 kB, installed size 5112 kB10:25
stdinalfatau: it's in multiverse10:25
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delmplut10:29
stdin!fr10:30
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:30
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Sam_ntenv10:30
Sam_delmp@st3b1:~$ q10:30
Sam_bash: q : commande introuvable10:30
Sam_delmp@st3b1:~$ printenv casroot10:30
Sam_delmp@st3b1:~$10:30
eMaX_what does it mean if linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic are being "held back" on sudo apt-get upgrade?10:30
alfataustdin: my apt-source: deb http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse --> i don't have that package :(10:30
Jucato!pastebin | Sam_10:30
ubotuSam_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:30
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stdineMaX_: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates10:31
JucatoeMaX_: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates10:31
Jucatorawr10:31
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stdinJucato: heh, beet you :)10:31
Jucatoyou *beat* me?10:31
stdinalfatau: you need the main edgy one, not edgy-backports10:31
Jucato:D10:31
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stdinJucato: ok, I was faster in my responce :P10:32
alfataustdin: ah, ok! thank you! i'm trying10:32
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Jucatostdin: only because you had something copied from me :P10:32
Jucatobut it's CC anyway lol10:33
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june_darkparadox: sorry it won't let me PM because i didn't register my nick, and apparently someone is already using my name10:33
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stdinJucato: yeah, maybe I should add a "(Copyright Jucato 2007)" to the end? :P10:33
Jucatohell no10:33
JucatoI don't want to be held liable lol10:33
stdinheh10:33
june_hey my dist-upgrade is 93% downloaded haha10:34
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alfataustdin: yeah! thank you!10:35
stdinalfatau: you're welcome :)10:36
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mbellezahow.to change my nickname in irc10:38
june_mbelleza: /nick NewNick10:38
mbellezatanx june_10:38
Alarmhello . i want to add a basic authentication on my apache server. but somehow it doesnt really work. although i am asked for a user/pass and enter the correct ones, it keeps asking me again and again. i created a password file with htpasswd -c  , under /usr/local/etc/httpd . my document directory is /var/www (doesnt have any index html in it. just files. my apache2.conf file looks like that: http://www.phpriot.com/4939 . read many times the apach10:39
Alarme tutorial but somehow i didnt manage to fix that  (i am not using .htaccess file, i have put the the basic authentication lines in a <directory> in the config file10:39
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june_no problem, what client are you using?  there are usually "easier" ways as well10:39
alfataustdin: can i ask another question?10:39
june_Alarm: #apache is a more appropriate channel, you're more likely to get an answer there10:39
stdinalfatau: sure10:39
Alarmjune_,  for a reason that i dont know i am banned ,10:40
Alarmi guess my domain or .gr is banned10:40
june_Alarm: geeze, sorry, well unfortunately i don't have an answer for you10:40
parkerw207why is my linux getting so slow stdin?10:40
parkerw207well my pc lol10:41
stdinwow, #apache has a long ban list :P10:41
stdinparkerw207: what do you mean by slow?10:42
parkerw207it keeps getting laggy10:42
parkerw207takin ages to load everything10:42
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stdinmaybe you have a lot of services running10:42
parkerw207;S10:43
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june_Alarm: you might try changing your nick just in case its your nick that's banned10:43
stdinparkerw207: take a look in System Settings -> Advanced (if on edgy) -> Service Manager10:43
parkerw207lol it crashed10:44
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parkerw207i dont have many things runing :S10:44
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alfataustdin: nothing, i solved myself... i needed another package. thanks a lot, bye!10:45
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june_Alarm: i'm asking about getting you unbanned10:46
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Alarmnice of u :) i am asking on apache in undernet servers10:47
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june_Alarm you should be good to go now10:48
Alarmlovely, thanks10:48
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bjacobrunning feisty herd 3 here. is it safe to do a full upgrade now? or is the problem with libapt-pkg-libc6.4 still there? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35486510:51
stdinbjacob: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 please10:52
bjacobah ok :)10:52
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parkerw207when the new kubuntu comes out , do we get to upgrade ?10:55
premier_how can I mount a .iso image as a drive?10:56
stdin!iso10:56
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn10:56
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darkparadoxuh ok lol..can't get video drivers to install11:02
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crubeIs it possible to add amarok equalizer presets from an eqf file?11:03
premier_crap, I think I screwed up my /media folder11:04
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parkerw207stdin: Do you know where i would find document templates for openoffice ? and is there a better office suit , not that oen office isnt good becuase its awesome!11:05
premier_I tried sudo mount ... /media/smac11:05
premier_but it said it couldnt find /media/smac11:05
premier_how do I do that?11:05
stdinparkerw207: they should be included, I think, you can ask in #openoffice.org , but as to a "better" suit, I don't know, there are some others, like koffice, but don't know if they ate "better"11:06
stdinpremier_: maybe: sudo mkdir /media/smac11:07
parkerw207thanks stdin11:08
stdinnp :)11:08
stdincrube: you can ask in #amarok , if it's not dead, or in #kde11:09
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parkerw207stdin: there is only like 3 people in that room and they aint even answering lmfao hehe11:10
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stdinparkerw207: http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/template_2_x/index.html11:15
stdinand http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/11:16
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hansenaptitude says there are new packages available for kernel, modules etc, but can't download them. Something broken or the mirrors just not completely updated yet?11:16
mneisenhansen: same problem over here .11:16
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mneisenhansen: The problem has existed for at least 24h.11:17
hansenmneisen: thanks, so it's not my installation that is fscked11:17
pinheiroRiddell: ping11:17
mneisenhansen: at least there is another possible cause ... :-D11:17
hansen:)11:17
stdinhansen: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates11:18
parkerw207thanks stdin11:18
stdinparkerw207: :-)11:18
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hansenstdin: thanks11:19
june_!via11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
mneisenstdin: is it save to update those kernel-related modules that can be downloaded?11:19
stdinmneisen: should be11:19
mneisenstdin: thanks.11:20
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lenscapeadept is confusing me. It says I have 4 updates but 3 are marked as 'no change'. What does that mean?11:27
stdinlenscape: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates11:27
lenscapestdin: Thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated11:27
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stdinlenscape: it's been a common question over the last day or so :)11:28
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lenscapeheh11:28
mneisenstdin: Shouldn't we add a factoid to ubotu ...?11:28
Jucatonot necessary to do so, if the situation is (should be) temporary11:29
parkerw207where would i find a list of trick for irc >11:29
parkerw207?*11:29
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stdinmneisen: maybe, I (and Jucato) have just made a script and a command alias to show the message11:29
mneisenstdin: OK, that is just as well.11:29
Jucatohey, what do I have to do w/ it?11:30
stdinI just type "/fix Name" and it prints: Name: BlahBlah....11:30
hansenstdin, mneisen: sorry if I asked a faq that was 1000 times already today :)11:30
mneisenJucato: Well, I ran into this problem before, not just yet. There have been repeatedly held-back packages that disappeared after a few days.11:30
mneisenhansen: no harm done.11:30
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mneisenhansen: I am not quite so expertish in this area.11:30
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naliothJucato? never!11:32
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Jucatonalioth: sssh... :)11:33
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hansenapropos my reason to upgrade the kernel: Did any of you manage to get a Intel 3945ABG wireless to work with the current kernel/drivers?11:34
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xsachawoah, what's this about ubuntu teaming up with linspire? Starting with the Ubuntu 7.04 release in April, Ubuntu users will be able to use the Linspire CNR (Click and Run) software delivery system, which will give them one-click access to commercial programs and proprietary multimedia CODECs and drivers.11:36
hansento me it looks like everything is set up correctly out of the box (mechanism for downloading firmware to device and start the userspace daemon when the kernel module is loaded), but still it wont connect to my AP11:37
parkerw207is gimp any good ?11:37
stdinyeah, but it's not the easiest app to pickup11:38
hansenparkerw207: depends on your needs11:38
parkerw207ermm well i do graphics design11:38
parkerw207so i need something similar to photoshop11:39
mneisenparkerw207: You can set up gimp to look and act just like photoshop11:39
stdinthen gimp is for you11:39
hansenit's the best photoshop replacement available for linux11:39
parkerw207how do i do that ?11:39
Jucatoparkerw207: you will have to test them out yourself11:39
hansenbut it is not photoshop :)11:39
parkerw207yeah i will do , i will test it11:39
parkerw207didnt photoshop start off as an open source project :S11:39
Jucatoparkerw207: try both the GIMP and Krita. use what you like. or use both if you want11:39
parkerw207i thought some guys in the movie industry starting it >11:40
hansenfor me the big drawback is that it can't do >8 bit per channel editing11:40
parkerw207ooo11:40
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parkerw207another things11:40
hansenfeature-wise Krita looks great, but I never really got it work reliably11:40
parkerw207why is my audio play back choppy ?11:40
mneisenparkerw207: Take a look at http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=24111:40
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parkerw207ok thanks mneisen11:41
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hansenif you want some really high quality image editing software and aren't afraid of an (ahem) "alternative" UI, try this: http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/index.php?title=VIPS11:42
parkerw207how do i find out if the gimp i just got from adept is the latest ?11:42
hansenthe author describes it as "It aims to be about half-way between Photoshop and Excel" :)11:42
mrayWhen I "apt-get upgrade" 2 packages are kept back (linux-image-386, linux-restricted-modules-386) - what shall I do now?11:42
Jucatoparkerw207: Help -> About GIMP, then compare it to the one in the official website11:42
Jucatostdin: ^^^^^11:43
mneisenparkerw207: Well, if you did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gimp, then you have the latest version available for (K)Ubuntu11:43
parkerw207ooo ok then thanks!11:43
mneisenstdin: Time for your script again .-D11:43
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parkerw207lol11:43
Jucatomray: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates11:43
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parkerw207where do i go to help out in open source ?11:43
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stdinJucato: huh, I step away for 2 seconds and someone asks :P11:44
Jucatostdin: that was more than 2 seconds11:44
parkerw207i'm not brilliant at anything particulary but i amdoing an ict diploma and i am doig well so i must have some skills to help out :)11:44
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mrayJucato: Thank you for theinformation -that wa a nice hint!11:44
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Jucatoparkerw207: 1) take note of what you can and cannot do/contribute then 2) go to the project's website, IRC channel, mailing list or forum and ask around11:45
parkerw207ooo i see :)11:45
stdinand, of course, there is no cancel button11:45
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parkerw207i shall do.... hm i am good at graphics design and websites really11:46
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mrayparkerw207: Did you try Krita? It has grown, and already implements many features like GIMP, but with a nicer GUI - "I think"11:46
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parkerw207yeah its pritty nice!11:46
parkerw207i am not good at programming , only ones were being tuaght is sql and vb.net :O11:47
mrayi'm a designer myself, too - feeling like an alien in these chatrooms sometimes :D11:47
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MidMarkhi, from today I have a kernel updates that breaks things!11:47
Jucatoparkerw207: there are many possible areas of contribution, not just programming: documentation, artwork, bug hunting/triaging, user support (like this), etc11:47
JucatoMidMark: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates11:47
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MidMarkyeah thanx11:48
JucatoMidMark: it actually doesn't break things... because it doesn't even download anything11:48
parkerw207yeah i guess!11:48
parkerw207but i do want to be good t programming , i just find it a tad confusing lol11:48
parkerw207specially when you have a idiot of a teacher lol11:48
Jucatoparkerw207: start studying. no one's stopping you :)11:48
MidMarkJucato: it breaks all updates ;)11:48
Riddellpinheiro: hi11:48
MidMarkin the sense that I cannot download them11:49
parkerw207he just gives us sheet of code to copy and doesnt explain what they do lol11:49
stdinMidMark: just ignore them11:49
parkerw207it make me luagh11:49
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parkerw207i'm pritty good at sql though :)11:49
Jucatoparkerw207: I've learned long ago never to rely only on instructors, to do my own research, etc.11:49
parkerw207Jucato: i've come to realise that myself11:49
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parkerw207how do i get an sql server all up and running on linux ?11:50
stdin!mysql11:50
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)11:50
parkerw207ok i may sound strange now , but we use oracle11:50
parkerw207basically just a website where we type the sql out11:50
parkerw207what program do i need that does the same thing :S11:51
stdin!oracle11:51
ubotuIf you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html11:51
parkerw207ooo gosh11:51
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parkerw207i tried to do that once and it was coming up with all sorts of errors lol11:52
IppatsuHi all! I can't configure Local Network File Sharing in Kubuntu using System Settings -> Sharing because the configuration page is disabled, how can I resolve? (screenshot @ http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8566/sharingkubuntu1iw0.png )11:52
parkerw207is there anything else i could use instead?11:52
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parkerw207whas the shortcut key to get a terminal to come up?12:00
Jucatoif you're in Konqueror, F4.12:01
Jucatoif you mean just a general Konsole, you can set your own shortcut for it12:01
parkerw207thankyou very much12:01
stdinalt-f2, konsole :P12:01
parkerw207ooooo oracle xe is huge loL!12:02
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Jucatonooo12:02
Jucatono more script kiddy...12:02
stdinheh, you'll have to do it yourself now12:03
stdinor put it in the topic Jucato12:03
JucatoI'm not *that* powerful :P12:03
stdinnot that anyone actually reads that12:03
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Jucatoyeah12:04
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stdinJucato: topic is open, anyone can change it12:04
parkerw207is its true that linux is hard to hack ?12:04
Jucatostdin: nope it isn't12:04
parkerw207it isnt :O12:04
Jucatoparkerw207: please know the difference between hack and crack12:04
parkerw207jucator12:05
Jucatoor at least start knowing the the difference12:05
parkerw207Jucato: the difference is ?12:05
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Jucatohacker = programmer; cracker = some guy (programmer or not) who tries to break in systems12:05
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can I conenct to a dial up broadhand connection?12:05
parkerw207ok then12:05
parkerw207so is it hard to crack linux?12:06
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stdinJucato: yeah, it's open :P12:06
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DjDarkmanI just got my very own internet connection12:06
DjDarkmanbut I can`t connect to it12:06
stdinright. now I am gone (before I get scolded)12:08
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mrayDjDarkman: you want to dial yourself with pppoe?12:10
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mrayor do you have a router and WLAN etc?...12:10
DjDarkmanyes mray12:10
DjDarkmanppoe12:10
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mrayDjDarkman: i think there is a tool that is called "KPPP"12:10
DjDarkmanyes but its so hard to understand12:10
mrayin your startmenu under "internet"12:10
DjDarkmanI know ,but I don`t know how to make it work this way12:11
DjDarkmanhow can I make it use pppoe?12:11
mraydon't you have the possibility to use a router?12:11
DjDarkmanno12:11
mrayi think it uses pppoe - it is just a Graphical user interface for it (i assume)12:12
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mraywhat did you try so far - and why doesn't it work?12:12
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DjDarkmankppp12:13
mrayor "how" doesn't it work :P12:13
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mrayyes.12:13
DjDarkmanit doesn`t let me complete the username and password fields12:13
mraybesides - how come you are chatting with me!! LIAR!!!12:13
mray;)12:13
DjDarkmanfrom evil OS madar_12:13
DjDarkmanmray12:13
mray^^12:13
june_!s312:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about s3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
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DjDarkmanso mray do you know what Ihave to set it kppp to make it work?12:14
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DjDarkmancommand line stuff is good too12:14
june_anyone know if it's possible to get GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two on an S3 video card with the openChrome drivers?12:14
mrayi remember that the login phrases on linux somehow were different12:14
mrayin what country do you try to use ppp?12:15
DjDarkmanROMANIA12:16
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mraywell, ok i'm not from romania, but i think you want to dial in to a DSL connection right?12:16
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Jucato!ro12:17
ubotuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro12:17
ubuntu_w12:17
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kuw88hi to all12:20
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kuw88where can i foud real player fro ubuntu12:21
kuw88?12:21
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oliver__hi, .....12:24
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Linux_Galore!real12:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:25
Paulohello all12:25
[knap] hi12:25
Paulocan i get a little help with apt please?12:26
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[knap] just aks the question12:26
PauloThe following packages have been kept back:12:26
[knap] don't ask if you can ask12:26
Paulo  linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-38612:26
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Linux_GalorePaulo: means the package isnt the one for your kernel12:27
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_6StringKng_when I get to the loging screen in Kubuntu my screen resolution is different and the refresh rate of my monitor is 60Hz, any way to make it the same as when I actually login?12:27
hansen[2007-02-09 11:46]  <Jucato> MidMark: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates12:27
_6StringKng_login screen*12:27
Paulobut when i try do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" they will not install12:27
hansenPaulo: ^12:27
PauloLinux_Galore: thanks for answering12:28
Linux_GalorePaulo: because its not the package for your kernel, you can dist upgrade all week it doesnt means it will update something thats not a matching package12:28
oliver__hey, that solved my problem with updating too, Thanks12:28
Paulothen why is it showing this if it is not for my kernel12:29
Linux_GalorePaulo: Im not on your machined so i havednt got a clue what of the 20,000 odd packages you have installed12:30
_6StringKng_could someone help me with my prob?12:30
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Gandalfciao c' qualcuno?12:31
_6StringKng_when I get to the login screen its a different resolution and the refresh rate of my monitor is 60Hz, anyways I could make it the same resolution as when I login, same for the refresh rate12:31
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Linux_Galore_6StringKng_: ?? the login screen is when X starts, before that X isnt running12:31
_6StringKng_no, x is running12:32
Paulo!it12:32
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:32
_6StringKng_just not logged in12:32
Gandalfok sorry12:32
Gandalf^^12:32
_6StringKng_not like terminal or anything12:32
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Linux_Galore_6StringKng_: I know X is running i just said that12:32
_6StringKng_shit my bad, read it wrong somehow, lmao12:32
Linux_Galore_6StringKng_: what im trying to tell you is before the login X isnt running12:33
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_6StringKng_I know that12:33
_6StringKng_but when I actually enter my info and login, the resolution and refresh change12:33
parkerw207Guys could i get a bit of help with oracle/12:33
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_6StringKng_refresh rate*12:34
parkerw207i've installed it using apt but i need to know how to run it :S12:34
Linux_Galore_6StringKng_: it shouldnt, that is weird,  run   systemsettings  and check12:34
parkerw207oo wait i found it lol12:34
[knap] is there any bug related to static ip address in conection manager in kubuntu 7.04 herd3 amd64 ?12:34
[knap] can't connect to my wireless router12:35
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[knap] only when using dhcp12:35
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_6StringKng_no, its fine12:36
parkerw207ppp now it cant load it :S12:36
[knap] so probably it's some configuration12:36
[knap] my fault12:36
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Linux_Galore_6StringKng_: or just run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and answer the questions12:37
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parkerw207stdin: you there ?12:37
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Flamzarthello im wondering if anyone can help me im trying to get a list of the latest packages using sudo apt-get update but gets time outs all over the shop12:44
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praetorusing KDE, I added another panel so that I have two panels, one across the top, and one across the bottom. However, I am unable to resize the 2nd panel that I added12:46
praetorif I right click on the 2nd panel, select configure and change anything, the changes are always made on the first panel12:46
kuw88the web java not work12:46
kuw88?12:46
Linux_GaloreFlamzart: tells me your sources are wrong and it hanging because it cant find or connect12:48
Linux_Galorethe server12:48
Flamzartk12:49
Linux_Galorepraetor: aah you can but you need to look closer,  you may have to log out and back in for it to appear as a drop down option12:49
Linux_Galorepraetor: what should ahppend is when you go into Configure  the "Main panel" box has a built in drop down that allows you to select the external panel but it only works after kicker is restarted12:51
Flamzarthow do i changes sources havent changed anything with it after fresh install12:51
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[knap] probably the servers are down12:51
[knap] chose another one12:51
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Linux_GaloreFlamzart: start   adept  and click on View -> Manage Repositories12:52
kuw88how can i know about my sound card driver12:52
kuw88?12:52
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Linux_Galorekuw88: run systemsettings12:53
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Linux_Galoreor  asound --list12:53
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kuw88thank you12:54
Flamzart@ manage repositories12:54
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Linux_Galorekuw88: sorry asoundconf list12:56
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praetorLinux_Galore: did the trick, cheers :-)12:57
KomiaPoikacan anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?12:57
kuw88(linux_calore) thank you for help i found it12:57
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Linux_Galorepraetor: yeah. seems to be some weird update bug that makes the package installer config script put two screen entries in xorg.conf sometimes12:58
Linux_Galoreparkerw207: running that config setup flushes it all12:58
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toxidashi everyone12:59
toxidasi want to capture destop via beryl plugin12:59
toxidasi have the plugin but cannot capture12:59
toxidasit asks me about seom-x264 and couldn't find in the repos?01:00
Linux_Galoretoxidas: its a codec01:00
toxidaswhere can i find it?01:01
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Linux_Galoretoxidas: in stall the xine-extra-codecs  package01:01
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toxidasthanx by the way stupid question: what is super key in beryl?:)01:02
[knap] windows key01:02
[knap] with the flag01:02
toxidasi cant make work the win key is it via xorg.conf01:03
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parkerw207i did it lol01:14
parkerw207i managed to get it working01:14
parkerw207thanks all :)01:14
parkerw207cya01:14
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parkerw207oops01:14
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parkerw207!commands01:15
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:15
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baracudaG'day everyone01:18
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Pooh22how are usb (media) events normally handled in kubuntu (edgy)?01:20
Pooh22I have a laptop where it seems that knetworkmanager is handling them (and doing it well)01:20
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Pooh22but this isn't a standard package and it (or a related something) seems to have a conflict with NIS01:21
Pooh22without a handler, it seems the KDE Daemon responds with a "malformed URL" message and not mounting the usb media01:22
Pooh22anyone have a clue how to fix this?01:22
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vk6five-noob alert- please bear with me. I am VERY rusty with my BASH, and I only learnt enough to get me by in what I had to do at school in the 80s. -- I am experiancing several issues ... first how do I rename a file eg "avg71flm_r30_a0791_i386.deb" to "avg71.deb" please?01:27
Hobbseevk6five: mv avg71flm_r30_a0791_i386.deb avg71.deb01:28
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xenol!acpi01:31
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)01:31
xenoli got problems with turning off my pc01:31
xenolany ideas?01:31
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xenolplz anyone?01:32
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ubuntu_ja my nick is ubuntu.... fk01:33
xenol!language01:33
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:33
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KomiaPoikacan anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?01:37
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xenol!help01:44
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xenol!apciproblems01:44
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Pooh22xenol: have you tried the kernel commandline in grub?01:45
xenolhmm wats that?01:46
xenoli cannot restart/turn off pc01:46
Pooh22if you look in /boot/grub/menu.lst, you can see how the kernel is started01:47
Pooh22sometimes you can fix things by doing acpi=on or acpi=off as a parameter to the kernel startup01:47
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xenolPooh22:  this may help me to turn off /restart pc?01:48
Pooh22xenol: I don't know for sure, your problem description is very generic ;-)01:49
xenolPooh22:  so i will do it when i want to restart pc nothing happen only screen goes black and when i am turning off pc then only monitor shuts down and i can hear my disk and cooler working01:49
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Pooh22hmm, I have that sometimes too, perhaps it will be fixed with the new kernel that will be updated when it is fixed (see topic)01:50
max__re01:51
max__I don't want to ask questions that have been answered twice but01:51
max__I dont know how to01:52
xenolPooh22:  any  ideas?01:52
max__solve the matter on my own01:52
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max__Any apt-experts here?01:52
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Pooh22xenol: no further ideas at the moment01:52
Pooh22max__: just ask the question...01:53
max__my adept-updater won't stop showing 3 packages which can't b updated01:53
max__for update01:53
Pooh22max__: see topic of this channel01:53
Pooh22!topci01:54
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Pooh22!topic01:54
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xenolPooh22: i should try acpi=off ?01:54
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max__Pooh22: thx01:55
Pooh22xenol: it's worth a try, please let us know if it worked01:55
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xenolPooh22: ok i need to add it behind kernel parameters?01:55
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xenoldidnt helped :(01:58
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xenolPooh22: any more ideas? isnt there any file that log why PC cant shut down for example?01:59
Pooh22xenol: have you checked the /var/log/syslog file?01:59
Pooh22xenol, you could try doing acpi=on instead?02:00
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xenolPooh22:  i am sure what to look for02:03
Pooh22xenol: you could try to look for the moment just before the last time you booted02:04
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Pooh22the boot messages will always start in a typical way and lots with nearly the same time02:05
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Pooh22and the ones before that will probably contain shutdown, terminate, exit type of messages02:06
xenolwell will u have look at it pplz?02:06
xenolplz*02:06
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Pooh22sure02:06
xenolPooh22: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4854/  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4855/ first is syslog.0 and syslog02:08
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Pooh22xenol: apart from that worrying message from kdm-greet, I don't see anything strange02:11
xenolPooh22: i have nforce2 delta series MB02:12
Pooh22but it says memory corruption on my machine as well02:12
Pooh22so I guess that's just BS ;-)02:12
xenoland on dapper i didnt have any problems with shut down/restart :S02:13
Pooh22xenol: I'd wait for the new kernel to come through the updates in the next few days02:13
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xenolPooh22:  but the prob is many ppl have probs on laptops with this i am on desktop02:14
xenoland no answer02:14
xenolto it02:14
xenoli am worried that kernel 2.6.20 wont support my HW any more :S02:14
hwhmm02:15
Pooh22xenol: it's like that sometimes with Linux, sometimes a problem isn't fixed quickly02:15
Pooh22xenol: the next one will just be a minor update (2.6.17-11)02:15
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xenolPooh22:  well i dont understand win xp in shuting down with no prob daper no prob02:16
xenolwell should i try to boot livecd and turn of there?02:16
Pooh22or just press the power button? (sometimes holding it for a while will finally turn it off)02:17
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Pooh22I'm sure this will be fixed in some way02:17
Pooh22just not today ;-)02:17
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xenolPooh22: i found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1722087&postcount=13:P02:18
xenolhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1722087&postcount=1302:18
xenoli will give it try acpi=force02:18
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Pooh22xenol: hopefully that will work...02:19
xenolim reading more threads in forum02:19
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xenolPooh22: i will try to shut down in windows :S02:24
xenoli am afraid cant do it there to02:24
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j_any ideas when "dapper/edgy-security kernels are uninstallable, a fix is being worked on" will be fixed? I have no rush, the exclamation mark just bothers me =)02:25
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xenolPooh22: bah acpi=force didnt  helped02:28
xenolPooh22: that kernel will solve this problems?02:29
Pooh22xenol: I don't know, but it seems to be a kernel problem02:29
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Pooh22so it may solve it, or not (if it's not fixed in that release)02:29
xenolPooh22: many ppl react to this?02:30
xenolreact to this problem*02:30
Pooh22how do you mean "react"?02:30
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Pooh22you mean if many people complain about this?02:30
Pooh22I don't know02:31
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Pooh22xenol: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/4400802:35
xenolPooh22: weird is sudo reboot works perfectly so sudo shutdown -p could also ?02:36
Pooh22perhaps it's a kdm bug?02:36
xenolwell mayb02:37
xenolanyway i will try smth02:37
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nabilam using kubuntu in xp through virtual box..runs like native speed02:39
xenolPooh22: sux didnt helped either i got kernel 2.6.17-10 generic hope 17-11 fixes this02:39
xenoltill then i need to sudo shutdown02:39
xenoli guess02:39
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xenolPooh22: can i ask u few more questions?02:40
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jayI have  a script that I need 2 run JUST before gdm starts... how I do do that?02:42
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xenol!paste02:43
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Pooh22xenol: I should really be doing something else, so just ask in general, there's about 350 people in the channel (though many asleep I suppose)02:43
xenolPooh22: ok where can i know wat version of kde i am using?02:43
xenolthis is last question02:44
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xenoland thx for time Pooh2202:44
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Pooh22xenol: in about kde (from konqueror help menu)02:44
Pooh22np xenol02:44
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mneisenHi, I have a problem with simutrans on Kubuntu. When I try to start the executable (rights are 755), I get an "Permission denied.". WTF? Any suggestions?02:45
xenolPooh22: and one rly last question why adept notifies me about kernel updates for the same kernel i am using?02:46
Pooh22xenol: I don't know02:46
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xenolso it is being fixed ?02:47
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tazzanyone using a kubuntu distro can tell me what they see when they type "echo $DISPLAY" please?02:47
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jayI have a script to run right before kdm starts... how do I do that?02:49
mem_:(02:49
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xenol!script02:50
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soulriderhello02:53
xenolhi02:53
mem_hi02:53
soulriderim having some issues with the kernel, aptitude wants to downgrade it =/ anyone having this issue too ?>02:53
xenolsoulrider: wat version u have?02:54
xenol2.6.17-10 genric?02:54
xenolgeneric*02:54
soulriderno wait, it wants to upgrade but it sais the new ones have unmet deps02:54
soulrideryeah, wants to go for .1102:54
xenolwell read topic02:54
soulriderbut score is -9102:54
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soulriderohh :)02:54
soulrideri guess ill wait then02:54
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xenoli have same prob02:55
xenolcant shutdown pc though k menu02:55
soulridercant understand how they released uninstallable kernels though02:55
xenolneed to sudo shutdown02:55
zakameevening all02:55
mem_'ning02:55
soulriderevening zakame02:55
zakamehello soulrider :D02:56
zakameand mem_ :D02:56
soulriderhello zakame02:56
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mem_Glad you're all smiles & grins zakame :P02:56
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tazzwhen i type kate at the command prompt i get this error "kate: cannot connect to X server" any idea what the problem could be?02:58
tazzi think my x is broken02:58
xenoltazz use kdesu kate =)02:59
mneisenHi, I have a problem with simutrans on Kubuntu. When I try to start the executable (rights are 755), I get an "Permission denied.". WTF? Any suggestions?02:59
xenoldid u use sudo?02:59
tazzxenol, i get the following error "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server02:59
tazzXlib: No protocol specified02:59
tazzkdesu: cannot connect to X server :002:59
tazz"02:59
zakamemem_: pretty much, I'm quite happy tonight... just got a feature working for my little project ;)02:59
zakameI'll just pass time for the moment03:00
xenoltazz: i have sometimes same  prob too but when i type sudo kate and not kdesu kate03:00
Agent_bobtazz execute; xhost +LOCAL:     and retry.03:00
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tazzAgent_bob, "xhost:  unable to open display ":0"03:01
tazz"03:01
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mem_Anyone got Beryl working with SIS V card/? :S03:02
tazzxenol, in konsole i am logged in as root so i dont think sudo will make much diffrece.03:02
mem_zakame - congrats :)03:02
xenoltazz:  no idea then sry03:02
Agent_bobtazz not as root.  as the user that owns the xsession03:03
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tazzAgent_bob, got it looks like i get the problem only when i am logged in as root or else everything is working fine.03:04
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xenoltazz: wait for new kernel to come out if it wont fix it then u  have problem :p03:06
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Agent_bobthat's what the command was for, to unlock the xsession so that root could connect to it.03:06
tazzxenol, tonight i am updating from 6.06 to 6.1003:06
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xenolwell i update too and got only problems with it03:06
rohando kubuntu and ubuntu interfere with each other ? for e.g., kde's trash can system is different form gnome's, so in gnome, i get an icon on the desktop .. "Trash.desktop" in fedora .. is it the same in ubuntu ?03:06
xenolcant shutdown pc correctly03:06
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ypsilamoin03:07
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Agent_bobrohan no.  kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop  may conflict but they are both just meta packages.  you can uninstall the one to install the other.03:08
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rohanno, the kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages dont conflict with each other. i am asking about the case mentioned above03:08
crubeMy updater keeps telling me there's 3 pudated packages available. These are linux header packages and something like that. I guess it doesn't actually update until I restart my computer. Am i right?03:08
Agent_bobor install neither and install both gnome and kde  meta packages   or any combination of the four03:08
Agent_bobrohan what "case mentioned above" ?03:09
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soulrider!dbus03:09
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Agent_bobrohan trash ?   i answered that.   no.03:10
rohanAgent_bob:  for e.g., kde's trash can system is different form gnome's, so in gnome, i get an icon on the desktop .. "Trash.desktop" in fedora .. is it the same in ubuntu ?03:10
soulridercan someone explain to me what dbus is ?03:10
rohanoh03:10
rohanthat's great .. :)03:10
Agent_bobyou can have an icon on the desktop in either kde or gnome    but the trash filders are seperate they wont conflict.03:11
xenolcrube it is kernel u dotn have to restat cause it wont upgrade just read the topic /topci03:11
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xenol /topic03:11
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xenol!multimedia03:13
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rohanxenol: you can try /msg'ing the bot, instead of having it reply in the channel03:15
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the_hammeranyone else having a hard time installing adobe flash03:19
the_hammerPlease enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,03:19
the_hammeror Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):03:19
the_hammeri hit enter and it just repeats itself :(03:19
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hwthe_hammer: aren't there kubuntu packages?03:20
the_hammeri added  the example and checked the path doesnt work03:20
the_hammerno i got it from adobe03:20
hwthe_hammer: why?03:20
Jucato!flash903:20
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash03:20
the_hammerflash9?03:21
Jucatoyes. the latest version available for Linux03:21
the_hammerok ill check that out ive install every flash in the repos and nadda will do what i want03:21
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hwI've flash 9.0.31 installed03:21
Jucatothe_hammer: you do have Flash 9 installed? form the -backports (you need to enable those)03:21
hwinstalled by kubuntu03:22
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the_hammerhow?03:22
Jucato!backports03:22
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports03:22
the_hammer(you need to enable those)03:22
Jucatojust enable them in your sources.list03:22
Jucato!repositories03:22
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:22
the_hammerok ive uncommented everything there already so i should be good yeah?03:23
Jucatolook for the line with edgy-backports (if you're on edgy, or dapper-backports if you're on dapper) and remove the # at the beginning03:23
the_hammeredgy here03:23
Jucatodouble check your repositories. if they're "correct, sudo apt-get update". then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree03:24
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oslo hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where they are ??03:24
Agent_bob/var/log/*03:25
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the_hammeri added this line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted still not getting flash 903:32
the_hammerwhen i search03:32
the_hammer:/03:32
the_hammeri did sudo update command also03:32
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Agent_bob!info flashplugin-nonfree03:33
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)03:33
the_hammerhw do u have edgy?03:33
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ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes03:33
hwthe_hammer: is edgy 6.10?03:33
hwHmm, then I've edgy :)03:34
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ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)03:34
oslo hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where they are ??03:34
the_hammeryes03:34
raeez!apt-fix03:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:35
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:35
the_hammeru added onto your sources list tho eh hw?03:35
Jucatothe_hammer: but you have flashplugin-nonfree already installed?03:38
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Agent_bobabattoir did they ever fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so console users could use it ?03:39
parkerw207all : what the helll?03:40
Agent_bobabattoir did they ever fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so console users could use it ?   (repeting)03:40
abattoirAgent_bob: sorry, i'm not familiar w/ the issue03:40
nagyvI can not upgrade the linux-headers-generic package, although adept says that I should.03:40
hwthe_hammer: Have a look at my source list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4862/ Actually I dont know which gave me flash 9 ;)03:40
nagyvthis is alos true for linux-image-generic and linux-rescticted-modules-generic03:40
Agent_bobi'll go see.03:40
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parkerw207dont suppose linux will find my lost keys will it ! i mean it seems to do everything else lol03:41
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xenolwat does this mean plz? Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:41
xenoldpkg aint working?03:41
Agent_bobYou appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If ynot attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam ch03:41
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Agent_bobthat's what console users get ^03:41
Agent_boband javascript is enabled in elinks.03:41
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abattoirAgent_bob: hmm, I personally don't know who runs it... may be a good idea to mail them :)03:42
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Agent_bobabattoir i guess so.03:43
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mariellaeya03:44
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mariellawhats the easiest way to upgrade the kernel in kubuntu?03:44
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mariellaor, the entire system03:44
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Agent_bobread the topic ?03:45
xenol!upgrade03:45
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:45
mariellata xenol03:46
xenol=)03:46
twoadayhow about apt-get03:46
mariellaive already upgraded there03:46
mariellabut then i tried running this adept packager thing again03:46
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mem_I hope I don't kill this machine again :(03:46
mariellaand it says the kernel is ready for upgrade03:46
mariellaso i requested an upgrade03:46
mariellaand it didnt work03:46
mariella:(03:46
Jucatomariella: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates03:46
mariellanah, its cool03:47
mariellanow that i know its a common error03:47
mariella:)03:47
Agent_bobread the topic ?  <<<  ^03:47
twoadaykewl03:47
the_hammerif ya use edgy and ya wanna get new kernels add this to your sources.list deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ trunk main03:47
mem_just out of curiousity - where is the topic?03:47
mariellak03:47
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Jucatomem_: at the top of the channel or when you join a channel or when you type /topic03:48
mem_Honestly.. >.<03:48
mem_Thank you, and sorry03:48
mem_lol :)03:48
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oslohi , i'm looking for my krfb logs or my internet connections logs..03:49
Agent_bob"top of the channel" <<< assumes the same irc client that you use...  and the same settings in the irc client.    but the command /topic works for just about all clients.03:49
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mem_I've seen you in here twice now.. my sound problem is back, but I'm focused on working out whether or not I'll be able to get Beryl working with my SIS video card?03:49
mariellata the_hammer03:49
mem_It's up there Agent_bob. To be honest, if "Konversation" didn't log me straight into the support channel when I opened it.. I'd never have found it.03:50
the_hammermissing a tonf keys hw lol03:50
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mem_.. what is the section called.. where its failed to launch KDE and you're at a black screen to login from there..?03:53
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Agent_bobmem_   a  console03:55
mem_:) thank you03:55
xenoli got problems installing flash on edgy :O03:55
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the_hammerim missing a ton of keys but i got the player u got hw ty03:56
chronic1anyone here installed GForge?03:56
mem_!console03:56
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:56
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hwthe_hammer: Which repository is it? =)03:57
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the_hammernot sure i used your whole list lol03:58
Agent_bobmem_ there are by default 6 active consoles at all times unless in single user mode (safe mode)   they can be reached with the key combinations  [alt] +[ctrl] +[f#]   where # is the number of the tty (console) you wish to reach.  1-6 are running getty (the login prompt) and xorg runs in tty7  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f7]      by default...03:58
Agent_bob!cli | mem_03:58
ubotumem_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:58
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mem_You've probably realised by now I'm extremely new to this.  I have seen my bf using those screens, he has a basic debian version and it always starts in text. He said I should use ctrlaltbcspce to get to it but it just logs me out04:00
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mem_I'll get there eventually. Doesn't help that the only time I get to look at it is 2am..04:02
Agent_bobmem_ yeah use [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1] 04:02
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xenoli have problems with installijg flashplugin-nonfree it says04:03
xenoldpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):04:03
xenol subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 104:03
xenolErrors were encountered while processing:04:03
xenol flashplugin-nonfree04:03
xenolE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:03
xenolin terminal plz any ideas?04:03
mem_Saved by bob04:03
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Agent_bob[ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]  only kills xorg  it doesn't kill kdm/gdm/xdm  which started xorg and will restart it.04:03
mem_This is making more and more sense04:04
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Agent_bobxenol in konsole; sudo dpkg --configure -a     and see what the error is?04:04
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rysiek|plhi all04:05
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mem_I'm trying to create a file using this command .. $  sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh  but the command gedit can't be found. Am I missing a package for this, or is this to do with gnome and not KDE?04:05
Ippatsumem_: try nano instead of gedit04:05
Agent_bobmem_ yeah  the gnome desktop.   try replacing gedit with kate04:05
Agent_bobassuming you are doing this in the gui04:06
ScottKAnd it should be kdesu, not just sudo.04:06
xenolAgent_bob:  dunno it does the same ask me if i want to isntall flash i press y and that thing happen but i realized now that i dont have edgy backports in my repo list so mayb thats the problem04:06
xenol!source-o-matic04:06
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:06
mem_nano worked.  This probably won't work though. I think I picked the hardest thing to do for my first ever linux thing04:06
Agent_bobxenol maybe.04:07
mem_Beryl/Kubuntu has heaps of information on nvidia ATI & radeon.. but not much on SIS04:07
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Agent_bob!xgl04:08
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:08
vbgunzI have several updates but cannot apply them. Adept says, BREAK (UPGRADE), how do I fix this?04:08
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mem_Am I pushing my luck?04:08
rysiek|plwhat's up with the updates? I have three virtual packages in Adept Updater that are "upgradeable" but are marked as "no change"04:08
Agent_bobvbgunz read the topic.04:08
Agent_bobvbgunz it's the issue of the day.04:08
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vbgunzAgent_bob: thanks :)04:09
rysiek|ploh, vgbunz has the same problem04:09
Agent_bobrysiek|pl note the topic04:09
rysiek|plyeah04:09
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Agent_bobactually that issue landed in the repos yesterday i think...04:09
xenolAgent_bob: well can backports endanger stability od edgy_04:11
xenol?04:11
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vbgunzAgent_bob: yeah, it was yesterday I had the issue, I asked but no one knew. thanks for pointing out the topic04:12
Agent_bobif you are asking if it's possable, yes.  if you are asking if it's likely no.04:12
Agent_bobvbgunz np.    i ventured in yesterday and heard stdin and Jucato discussing it...04:12
Jucato: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates04:13
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Agent_bobis that a repost or a script Jucato ?04:13
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Agent_bobi thought that might be automated...04:14
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xenolhow can i ask  for GPG key? wget and wat ?04:17
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mem_$ wget [GPGINFO]  -O- | sudo apt-key add - I think?04:18
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ubuntus.a04:19
xenolwell can be download slower due to fact i dont have gpgkey from that repo?04:19
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Agent_bobdl time is not affected by gpg04:19
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Agent_bobgpg checks the package after it's dl'd04:20
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mem_thats as far as I get in helping right now.. wish I knew more04:20
ubuntuhey where is the kernel04:20
xenolcheck wat about it?04:20
xenolubuntu: which kernel?04:20
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Agent_bobubuntu it's int the /topic04:20
BluesKajHowdy04:20
ubuntusikerim seni akll ol04:20
LjL!tr04:21
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.04:21
ubuntuturk yokmu imdi burda04:21
LjL!english04:21
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat04:21
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ubuntusikerim o english i04:22
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eMish_packages.debian.org containe entry for iceape-browser. Why I 'apt-get install iceape.browser' say 'no such package' ?04:22
LjL!info iceape-browser04:22
ubotuPackage iceape-browser does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas04:23
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LjLare you quite sure?04:23
LjLoh you said *debian*.org04:23
stdinpackages.debian.org ??04:23
LjLeMish_, a package that's in debian, especially testing/unstable, doesn't *have* to be in Ubuntu as well, though they often are04:23
eMish_Still, if i want to install it, can ?04:24
eMish_How ?04:24
Agent_bobeMish_ you should NOT use debian repos with ubuntu systems04:24
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theshadow!beryl04:24
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:24
LjL!debian | eMish_04:24
ubotueMish_: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!04:24
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Agent_bob!source | eMish_04:24
ubotueMish_: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html04:24
LjLwhat *is* iceape anyway? debian's renamed flavor of seamonkey, i suppose?04:24
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eMish_yes04:25
BluesKajseamonkey is just netscape in wetmonkey's clothing ;)04:25
LjL!mozilla-browser04:26
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ubotumozilla-browser: The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9797 kB, installed size 29720 kB04:26
xenolwell guys i am running OO.o and just now koofice data installed do i need that?04:26
LjLprobably the closest that's in our repos..04:26
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eMish_all development of mozilla-browser is stopped but i use it. Just wanted to se how iceape is different04:26
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joaospintohow can i unninstall kubuntu04:27
eMish_i like moz much better than firefox04:27
joaospintothrough windows if possible04:27
joaospintoshall i just delete the partitions?04:27
Agent_bobjoaospinto yes.04:27
joaospintopartition magic is ok for that?04:27
LjLjoaospinto: yes. "uninstalling" an operating system doesn't really mean anything - you just put another one on the partition instead.04:27
Agent_boband be sure that you fix the mbr04:27
stdindelete the partition, then restore the windows boot loader if you want it04:28
icheynejoaospinto, yes but you would have to fix your boot records too04:28
xenoljoaospinto: www.microsoft.com and seach for how to delete linux04:28
joaospintoyes yes04:28
joaospintook04:28
icheynejoaospinto, bad move though :)04:28
joaospintoloooool04:28
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joaospintoi am not gonna use windows04:28
joaospintoi think i am goona install gentoo04:28
joaospintoi want to test it, at least04:29
icheyneoh right04:29
mem_Time to see if this works. Wish me luck!04:29
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icheyneGentoo's installer might fix the kubuntu delete for you04:29
joaospintobut how can i reconfigure the boot loader04:29
stdinyou can just install over kubuntu if it's another linux04:29
joaospintowill it auto-configure?04:29
joaospintostdin04:29
icheynegentoo might fix that04:29
icheyneprobably04:29
icheyneworth a try04:29
joaospintook then04:29
joaospintooh04:29
joaospintoand one more thing04:30
joaospintothe minimal cds04:30
icheyneask at Gentoo channel04:30
joaospintook04:30
joaospintoty :D04:30
Agent_bobhttp://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=review-winxp <<< joaospinto04:30
JucatoAgent_bob: regarding your question earlier. it was something I wrote in a command alias for easy repitition04:30
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Jucato(the info about the kernel update)04:30
Agent_bobyes it looked plastic Jucato  :)04:31
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stdinand then I coppied it :P04:31
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pinheiro-officeridel ping again sory04:31
Jucatoand then I leave stdin to do the repeating04:31
pinheiro-officeRiddell:04:31
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Agent_bob:)04:32
vk6fiveIn Gnome the locaton is '/usr/share/applications' wherefor art thou to use in KDE? this is for a x.desktop file04:32
Riddellpinheiro-office: hi04:32
Riddellvk6five: same place, it's standard04:32
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pinheiro-officehi Riddell hu is taking kare of the akademy page 200704:32
Agent_bobplastic firecracker   :)04:32
Riddellpinheiro-office: me and kenny04:33
pinheiro-officei want to stra working on that one04:33
pinheiro-officehehehhe04:33
pinheiro-officecool04:33
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Riddellpinheiro-office: cool, please do, we're in #akademy200704:33
pinheiro-officecool04:33
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vk6fiveah ok... having made them... what am i supposed to look for?? [I'm installing AVG]  following the walk thru of debianadmin.04:34
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vk6fiveI've written two x.desktop files .. I thought I was making a couple of desktop scripts04:34
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pinheiro-officeRiddell:  can we set up some kind of meeting so you guys can state your grafical needs and i start to work on it04:35
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xenoli made things with how to  and flash still aint working :(04:36
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YasimSomebody knows how to compile #C files?04:37
stdin!compile04:37
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:37
Agent_boband don't forget to start by installing "build-essential"04:37
YasimI just need the "stdio.h" library to start.04:38
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Agent_bobno you need a compiler.04:38
Agent_bobso install build-essential04:38
Yasimyes, I have four.04:38
Agent_bobok.04:38
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Jucatofour what?04:38
YasimMonodevelop.04:38
YasimGeany.04:38
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YasimKDevelop-.04:39
Yasim(four compilers)04:39
JucatoYasim: you have installed "build-essential"?04:39
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Yasimwait, i'm searching.04:39
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Agent_bobnone of those are a compiler tho.....04:39
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Jucatothey're IDE's04:39
ubuntuhelloo allz04:39
ubuntu:)04:39
ubuntunick niKon04:40
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vk6fivethe walk thru is for Gnome and it isn't so simple in KDE (apparently) -- also when recompilling the rpm to deb I included the scripts the second time - as this wasn't in the walk thru, but was a hint in the running of alias.04:40
niKongod04:40
niKon:)04:40
YasimUh... sorry, they have the "compile button" so I thing that there where compilers :$.04:40
JucatoYasim: installing build-essential will install everything you need to compile, including the headers04:40
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Yasimok, I'm downloading just now.04:40
Yasimthanks to everyone.04:40
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Agent_bobin the kubuntu help channel most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions"04:41
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xenolhow can i add java plugin or whatever to konqueror?04:44
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Yasimanother question, I want to have Xfce (i'm on Kubuntu) , so I downloaded "xfce4" , but there isn't working pretty well, I need to download something more?04:45
ForgeAusinstall it from adept04:45
ForgeAussun java or blackdown04:45
ForgeAuseither or04:45
ForgeAusdepending on your needs04:45
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ForgeAustheres also a mozilla plugin04:45
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hattaYasim, try xubuntu-desktop04:45
hatta`aptitude install xubuntu-desktop` that is04:45
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xenolForgeAus:  well i dotn want any developer version just plugin to konqueror :p04:46
ForgeAuswell its not exactly a plugin to konqueror specifically04:46
Agent_bob104:46
YasimI think I've tried thtat, but doesn't works.04:46
Agent_bob.04:46
Agent_bob204:46
Agent_bobooops04:46
ForgeAusjust get one of the java packages, it will install the right stuff (yo odn't need jse j2ee, etc just to run an applett04:46
stdinxenol: konqu used the mozilla one afaik04:46
vk6fiveSo having dkpg -i the newly aliened file.... I hav gedited the following and one other for initiating and update.... WHY can't I find the program and Where should I look to sort out the mess?04:47
vk6fivesudo gedit /usr/share/applications/avg.desktop04:47
ForgeAusstdin yeah I think it does too04:47
vk6fiveenter the following lines Save and exit the file04:47
vk6fiveFile:/usr/share/applications/avg.desktop04:47
vk6five[Desktop Entry] 04:47
vk6fiveName=AVG Antivirus04:47
vk6fiveComment=Antivirus04:47
vk6fiveExec=avggui &04:47
vk6fiveIcon=/opt/grisoft/avggui/prog/pixmaps/avgico_big.png04:47
vk6fiveTerminal=false04:47
vk6fiveType=Application04:47
vk6fiveCategories=Application;System;04:47
stdin!paste | vk6five04:47
ubotuvk6five: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:47
vk6fiveoh  ... starting from [Desktop] 04:47
xenolForgeAus:  so  sun is enough?M04:48
ForgeAus(Xenon I odn't mean ALL java packages)04:48
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ForgeAusshould b04:48
xenoli know04:48
stdinxenol: just grab sun-java5-plugin04:48
BluesKajAVG isn't wrtiiten fot linux , for one thing04:48
Agent_bobvk6five just a clue, dpkg -L packagename  to list everything it installed....04:48
ForgeAusyup thats the one04:48
ForgeAus(or java6?)04:48
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vk6fivedanke BOB04:49
stdinForgeAus: java6 available on feisty04:49
vk6fivethat would be a start.04:49
stdin!info sun-java6-jre feisty04:49
ubotusun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2 (feisty), package size 6175 kB, installed size 14144 kB04:49
ForgeAusmust be in edgy backports or proposed then04:49
Agent_bobd'nada vk6five04:49
Yasimi'm trying to install "xubuntu-desktop" but it gives somre problem with packages04:49
ForgeAuscoz I'm using edgy and I got it04:49
Yasim(evince-gtk -or- evince)04:50
ForgeAusYasim sounds tuff... what kind of problems?04:50
ForgeAus(kde has kpdf for pdf files)04:51
Agent_bobYasim /topic   as long as there is a repos problem it may affect the installation of anything.04:51
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tapas~$ nmblookup "*" finds my smb server04:51
tapasbut entering smb:/ in konqueror fails to find anything04:51
tapaswhy's that?04:51
ForgeAusthe file formats evince shows should work in kpdf afaik....04:51
YasimLos siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:04:51
Yasim  xubuntu-desktop: Depende: evince-gtk pero no va a instalarse o04:51
Yasim                            evince pero no va a instalarse04:51
ForgeAusif you need something better perhaps try kile?04:51
vk6fiveBluesKaj: It does seem to have been ported and debianadmin have a walk thru for the instelliation of the package... It hasn't as yet been officially put together for degbian or ubunto though.04:51
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YasimI don't know how to translate :(.04:52
ForgeAus(a more full latex typesetting app)04:52
Agent_bob  (https://launchpad.net/bugs/83976)04:52
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ForgeAusevince gtk and evince (non-gtk) can't be installed together04:52
BluesKajvk6five, who ported it for linux , AVG themselves or ...?04:52
ForgeAuseither one of them is fine anyway04:52
vk6fivesheesh I should look at the keys I'm hitting at this hour of the morning ... lol04:52
xenolis java and java plugin automaticaly isntalled in konqueror?04:53
FringeJackethelp: claculations in kubuntu.... IDK how... can someone tell me the calculator function whle I go get tea????04:53
ForgeAusthe GTK one is probably just a more Gnome-customized version04:53
vk6fiveYes AVG have on there site 3 .rpm's for redhat,suse, and one other04:53
BluesKajhmmm, can't seem to get FF to open full scrn , forgotten how to fix that04:53
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vk6fivetheir site04:53
ForgeAusGrisoft actually04:54
Yasimanyway, I can compile now!, but I can't execute the programs, it says 'permision denied'.04:54
ForgeAuson free.grisoft.com04:54
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theshadow!beryl04:54
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:54
BluesKajI believe so xenol04:54
stdinxenol: yeah, once you install it konqueror will use it04:54
ForgeAusits been there for a while now04:54
vk6fivegrisoft is the maker of AVG so that's basically the same thung, right.04:54
ForgeAus(the rpms I mean)04:54
ForgeAusyes vk6five04:54
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xenolForgeAus:  well grisoft is czech corp and i dont have good experience with AVG AV software04:55
manom!beryl04:55
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:55
xenolstdin: so i need to dl sun java5-plugin?04:55
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ForgeAusreally? I havn't had any trouble with it, unlike Norton Anti-virus04:55
stdinxeno04:55
stdinarr04:55
stdinxenol: enable multiverse, then install the package04:55
ForgeAusbut then AVG for Linux might be a different animal I know little about it04:55
vk6fiveare there any good free av soft packages for simple kbuntu install ???04:55
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stdin!antivirus04:56
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus04:56
ForgeAusclamav?04:56
stdin!linuxvirus04:56
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2104:56
stdin!virus04:56
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2104:56
xenolstdin:  i build my repo in source o matic and dunno if multiverse is there04:56
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YasimOk, I can execute programas now, thanks!.04:57
ForgeAusno problem Yasim04:57
stdinxenol: open konsole and so "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" you'll find out then :)04:57
ForgeAusis it just me or is XFCE kinda like a Gnome-lite?04:58
stdinenlightenment is a nice environment04:59
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hattawell it's a desktop environemnt-lite04:59
Agent_bob!source-o-matic04:59
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:59
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theshadowwhere is the KDE startup directory?05:00
Agent_bob!easyubuntu05:01
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu05:01
stdin!autostart05:01
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.05:01
ForgeAusstdin I like most of the Windows Managers I've tried out05:01
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ForgeAusFluxbox is nice and small its quite professional in design and feel but very minimal....05:01
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theshadowty05:01
ForgeAusKDE is much freer with options05:01
Agent_bob!klamav05:02
ubotuklamav: KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.37-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2256 kB05:02
ForgeAusami-wm is an interesting one for Amiga fans... gives you a workbench-like desktop... but again not very configurable... extremely light tho...05:02
ForgeAusOroboros is one for ROX but I odn't know much about that one05:02
Agent_bobyeah   blackbox/fluxbox  is my fav.05:02
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ForgeAusXFCE like I said before to me seems like a cross between fluxbox and gnome!...05:03
ForgeAusFVWM is ok but its kinda old05:03
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Agent_bobvfce is good but too heavy for my taste05:04
stdinfluxbox is nice, as far as light WMs go, but I love KDE too much to really get in to it :P05:04
ForgeAusanother one I like is WindowsMaker...05:04
Agent_bobbut hey i like twm ....05:04
ForgeAuslol AgentBob05:04
pontusI have an executable that has "-rwxr-xr-x" set and is owned by me. But still I get "Permission denied" what could be wrong?05:04
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ForgeAusgrrr WindowMaker05:04
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ForgeAusits a Next-step like windows manager05:04
ForgeAusbtw AgentBob there is a Fluxbuntu distribution05:05
Agent_bobicewm/windowmaker  yeah05:05
theshadowin the package update manager (adept) its showing two available updates one is linux-image-386 and if I request update on it, it says "BREAK (upgrade)" what does that mean?05:05
Agent_bobForgeAus really ?05:05
stdintheshadow: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates05:05
ForgeAus(their icon is way too close to Xubuntu's without the rat imho... kinda looks like an AFTER pic (if Xubuntu's is the before) becasue the inner circle is "eaten out" a bit...05:06
ForgeAusyeah but its not an official one with the Ubuntu people05:06
stdindose no one ever read the topic :P05:06
Agent_bob!topic | theshadow05:06
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ubotutheshadow: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:06
FringeJackethelp: claculations in kubuntu.... IDK how... can someone tell me the calculator function05:06
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ForgeAusfringe, theres serveral calculator apps05:07
Agent_bobstdin no.05:07
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stdinFringeJacket: speedcrunch is a calculator that's installed by default05:07
hattaI like bc05:07
ForgeAusqcalc?05:07
hattadc is good too if you know RPN05:07
ForgeAusor is it QT calc something like that..05:07
ForgeAushatta some are RPN optional even!05:08
Agent_bobFringeJacket dc puts calc functions in other apps...05:08
ForgeAusRPN remidns me of Lisp/Scheme languages...05:08
ForgeAusthey aren't infix05:08
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hattato be honest though, perl is the best calculator05:08
ForgeAushow about haskell?05:09
hattadon't know it05:09
ForgeAus:)05:09
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Agent_bobbc/dc is it     bash does non-decimaled simple math.  echo $((1024 * 1024 * 1024))05:09
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stdinawk will05:10
stdindecimals I mean05:10
Roeyhi all again05:10
Roeyquestion question:05:10
Roeyhow do I change my console font05:10
Roey?05:10
Roeyit's disgusting05:10
Roeythank you :)05:11
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parkerw207how do i use a rpm ?05:11
Agent_bobyeah *awk and perl do math much better than bash ever thought of.05:11
parkerw207i donwloading limewire05:11
stdin!rpm | parkerw20705:11
ubotuparkerw207: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)05:11
stdin!limewire | parkerw20705:11
ubotuparkerw207: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.05:11
Agent_bobparkerw207 i don't.05:11
parkerw207thanks05:12
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FringeJacketroey, thats one I can help with05:12
Roeyoh, cool!05:12
Roey(there is a default debian one that I like)05:13
parkerw207do i have to unzip that file ?05:13
Roeyfor 80x2505:13
stdinparkerw207: why not use frostwire, it's just an open-source version of limewire, and is easy to install05:14
FringeJacketroey, its in the setting koncole settings under encoding05:14
xenolstdin:  java  int working05:14
parkerw207ooo frostwire ?05:14
RoeyFringeJacket:  ok05:14
parkerw207is it on adept?05:14
stdin!frostwire05:14
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:14
xenolstdin: and i loaded plugins in konqueror05:14
RoeyFringeJacket:  (this is the text console I mean, is that what you're referring to as well?)05:14
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stdinparkerw207: follow that link05:14
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parkerw207ok thank05:14
RoeyFringeJacket:  there's an /etc file for it, right?05:14
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ScarFreewill!ddrescue05:14
ubotuddrescue: copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB05:14
stdinRoey: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"05:14
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Roeystdin:  thanks05:15
Agent_bobRoey man consolechars05:15
Agent_bobyou can have different fonts per console05:15
stdinxenol: hmm, maybe you need to run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"05:15
kkosmostdin05:16
kkosmo?05:16
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ScarFreewilli can use ddrescue to make a folder into a file right?05:16
stdinkkosmo: do you have to use enter as punctuation ?05:16
kkosmoi fix my problem05:16
kkosmomy lest05:16
kkosmobut i have more problem now i dont see pictures in firefox05:16
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kkosmoi dont know why05:16
stdinScarFreewill: you can just tar it for that05:16
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Agent_bob!info console-setup dapper05:17
stdinkkosmo: I have no idea05:17
ubotuPackage console-setup does not exist in dapper05:17
Agent_bob!info console-setup edgy05:17
ubotuconsole-setup: Setup the font and the keyboard on the console. In component main, is important. Version 1.7ubuntu19 (edgy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1088 kB05:17
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ScarFreewillstdin: yeah, but doesn't windows infilltrate tars and spam stuff like tumbles all over it?05:18
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xenolstdin: i got some others java isntalled05:19
stdinScarFreewill: just change the extention then05:19
xenolstdin:  i want to remove them but dont know which r from which is there any commands that cleans away all packages ?05:19
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stdinxenol: how many do you have ?05:20
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xenolstdin: 305:20
ScarFreewillstdin: thanks for thinking logical for me ;)05:20
xenolstdin: no 205:20
parkerw207you know that frost wire ?05:21
xenolstdin: want to remove all packages of sun-java5 and configure the OSS one05:21
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parkerw207why dos it keep downloading it as code05:21
parkerw207and show it in a text editior ?05:21
stdinparkerw207: it's because of the sever, just right click it then save link as05:21
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stdinxenol: if you want the plugin, you need the sun version, and, btw, suns java is now oss05:22
parkerw207it says " download.php"05:22
parkerw207as the filename05:22
xenoli have to now gij wrapper and sun stdin05:23
xenolstdin:  can i remove that wrapper?05:24
stdinparkerw207: rename it, doesn't matter what you call it as long as it ends in .deb05:24
parkerw207it ends in php @S05:24
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Agent_bobyeah people building websites out of index.php in place of intex.html  nowa days kinda P'z me off.05:24
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RRiChIehi all05:24
parkerw207dont worry i got it lol05:24
stdinparkerw207: yeah, just rename it after05:24
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RRiChIeplease do you know the release date of heirdy ?05:25
stdinxenol: if you want, just remove the package gij-4.105:25
stdinRRiChIe: heiery?05:26
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Agent_bobheirdy ?05:26
RRiChIeFeisty Fawn i mean05:26
stdin!feisty | RRiChIe05:26
ubotuRRiChIe: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+105:26
RRiChIeok thank you05:26
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stdinI think you meant herd (the code name for the development releases)05:27
RRiChIeok (sorry for my bad english)05:27
xenolstdin:  ok i have multimedia flash java running wat do i need?05:28
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geniusvicksI run KDE, I followed the instructions on "http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX" but got stuck here sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:28
geniusvicksThe command doesnt work05:28
stdingeniusvicks: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:28
stdinxenol: you have java, just get flash now05:29
geniusvicksstdin, does it matter that I installed Beryl before typing "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" ?05:29
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stdingeniusvicks: no05:29
parkerw207stdin05:30
parkerw207i downloaded it05:30
parkerw207installed it using that kpacketmanager or what ever it05:30
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parkerw207and its in my menu and wen i lcick it , it says its loading then it just doesnt show05:30
xenolstdin: flash is taken care of done so i have flash java multimedia issues done wat else do i need for general using?05:31
stdinparkerw207: yeah, it's a small bug, easy fix05:31
parkerw207how ?05:31
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stdinparkerw207: just run "kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire" and change "sh runFrost.sh" to "bash runFrost.sh"05:31
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stdinxenol: maybe mp3 ? and w32codecs05:32
xenolstdin: done05:32
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parkerw207fialed to open device stdin ?05:32
stdinparkerw207: did you use kdesu?05:32
parkerw207what is kdesu?05:32
stdinxenol: that's about it then05:32
stdin!kdesu | parkerw20705:33
ubotuparkerw207: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:33
parkerw207yeah i did05:33
vk6fiveOK having played around a bit I have run and updated avg.  Now can ppl tell me pls, where to stick a file like x.desktop to appear in the kde 'K Menu'?05:33
stdinparkerw207: where did you run it form?05:33
parkerw207console?05:33
stdinvk6five: /usr/share/applications/05:34
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stdinparkerw207: just press Alt-F2, and put it in there05:34
vk6fivestdin: that's where it is... but I see NOTHING on the 'K Menu'05:34
Agent_bobkonsole != console05:34
stdinvk6five: have you restarted kicker/logged out and back in?05:35
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xenolstdin: i got issue with turning of pc from kdm need to use konsole any ideas if new kernel will fix it?05:35
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parkerw207hhhm stdin05:35
parkerw207all i get it05:36
vk6fiveheh <sheepish grin> Yeah, good idea -- why didn't I think of that.05:36
parkerw207is*05:36
parkerw207oo dont owrry05:36
Agent_bobkbuildsycoca05:36
CaseyOmahIs there no longer a Multiverse as of Edgy?05:36
stdinCaseyOmah: yes there is multivers in edgy05:36
Agent_bobkbuildsycoca incrmental   or some such.05:37
stdinxenol: maybe, check the pug reports and file one if there isn't one05:37
CaseyOmahThe default sources doesn't list one, so I wanted to ask.05:37
parkerw207ok stdin i did what you said and it still does the same thing05:37
Roeythanks stdin05:37
stdinparkerw207: you saved the file?05:37
Agent_bob  --noincremental           Disable incremental update, re-read everything05:37
parkerw207yep05:37
stdinRoey: no problem05:37
parkerw207i can show you what i wrote05:38
stdinparkerw207: ok05:38
parkerw207stdin :bash /usr/lib/frostwire/bash runFrostwire.sh05:38
vk6fiveIs there a simple way of be initiating the menu without dumping the desktop and relogging? services or sumthin like that. [remember, I'm rusty with acient knowledge getting in the way of 'enough to be dangerous' -to the system not the world... lol05:38
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CaseyOmahvk6five: You'05:39
CaseyOmahvk6five: You're asking about updating the K Menu?05:39
stdinparkerw207: the line should read "bash runFrost.sh"05:39
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Agent_bobvk6five kbuildsycoca05:39
Agent_bob!kbuildsycoca05:39
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ubotu<reply>  If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache05:39
parkerw207thats all?05:40
parkerw207just bash runfrost.sh ?05:40
stdinparkerw207: CaseSensitive05:40
parkerw207oo05:40
parkerw207but thats all yes ?05:41
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stdinparkerw207: the file should have three lines05:41
parkerw207delete the rst and just have : bash runFrost.sh05:41
parkerw207ooo wel mine only has one :S05:41
vk6fiveyes CaseyOmah05:41
vk6fivethankyou BOB05:41
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PopoiHi, this a stupid question but: what's the name of the app to untar and unzip included on Kubuntu Desktop?05:42
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Agent_bobvk6five stderr ?05:42
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parkerw207stdin : so i dunno what wrong with it05:42
Agent_bobheh  2>&1    now go be stdout.05:42
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stdinparkerw207: it should look like this http://pastebin.ca/34770005:42
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vk6fivethat'd be ARK, no?05:43
stdinPopoi: yeah, ark05:43
parkerw207stdin shoul di just put that in ?05:43
khaije1hi05:43
stdinparkerw207: yeah05:43
parkerw207delete the rest ?05:43
Popoioh yeah ARK, Thanks05:43
stdinparkerw207: so it just has those 3 lines in it05:43
ant1matterhey all, im having weird issues with kde 3.5.6. Ive completely removed it twice, cleared all kde files from user directories and everytime i reinstall even kdebase and kdelibs only my control-center is empty and most of the apps are stuck in Lost and Found on the K Menu. Any ideas? im running edgy.05:44
parkerw207yeah i am stdin05:44
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parkerw207stdin its just sitting there loading :S05:44
parkerw207and its dont the same thing05:44
geniusvicksstdin, I have a problem with beryl. Tell me a pastebin site, i'll paste the eror there05:44
parkerw207just disapreared05:44
stdinant1matter: make sure you are up to date, it was a bug in an earlier version05:44
khaije1i followed the instructions here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Firefox32_with_Flash.2C_Java_in_AMD64 but get a permission denied message. any help?05:44
PopoiAnother thing.. I'm trying to change my default windows manager from Konkeror to Dolphin; I use 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager', and it says: 'There is only 1 program which provides x-window-manager. (/usr/bin/kwin). Nothing to configure'. How can I do it?05:44
ant1matterstdin: ive upgraded as much as i could05:44
stdingeniusvicks: http://pastebin.ca05:45
ant1matterstdin: is there another repo i should point to?05:45
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stdinkhaije1: follow *this* guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:45
khaije1stdin: cool, thx dood!05:45
stdinparkerw207: if you run it from konsole, what do you see ?05:45
parkerw207how di run it from console ?05:46
stdinant1matter: which one do you have?05:46
stdinparkerw207: open Konsole, then type in: frostwire05:46
geniusvicksstdin, http://pastebin.ca/34770505:46
stdinparkerw207: and I mean Konsole, not a console05:46
parkerw207i'll bin it05:46
parkerw207hehe05:47
ant1matterstdin:  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main05:47
parkerw207!pastebin05:47
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stdingeniusvicks: that's fine, you can ignore that05:47
parkerw207stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4877/05:47
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stdinant1matter: that's the right one, try asking in #kubuntu-devel05:48
ant1matterstdin: ok thanks05:48
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stdinparkerw207: hmm, have you installed java yet ?05:48
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geniusvicksstdin, but I dont see any difference.05:48
Agent_bobhmmm using links for a file manager, how would you delete a file ?05:48
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stdingeniusvicks: just press alt-f2, and in there type "beryl-manager"05:49
ScarFreewill1Agent_bob: links as in the web browser ? :P05:49
parkerw207errmm how do instal java/05:49
stdinparkerw207: do you have multiverse enabled ?05:49
AlllexHi everyone- I've just got the ATI Graphics card install driver for Kubuntu. I ran it in the terminal, and followed all the settings, and now in my start menu I have an "ATI Technology" option. However when I click nothing happens? And I can't change the screen size in my Monitor + Display section?05:50
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soulriderhello05:50
parkerw207yep05:50
parkerw207multiverse enabled05:50
ScarFreewill1hi soulrider05:50
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stdinparkerw207: ok, just install the package "sun-java5-jre" then run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose the one that looks like "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java"05:51
fritschant1matter: yes it is the correct one05:51
ScarFreewill1sun java 6 is out btw...05:51
fritschant1matter: still there?05:51
Riddellant1matter: what's in /etc/xdg/menus/ ?05:52
BluesKajparkerw207, sun-java6-jre_1.6.0_01-ea-b01_i386.deb...or whatever CPU you are running , there's a 64 bit as well i believe05:52
soulriderScarFreewill1: it has been out for a while already05:52
BluesKajstdin, how goes it ? ... I've forgotten how to get FF to open to full page on launch. It's a minor irritation, but it bugs me nonetheless ... do you remember ?05:52
ant1matterfritsch: yep05:52
soulriderany java programmers here ?05:52
ant1mattersoulrider: yep05:52
geniusvicksstdin, I get this error "The Composite manager has crashed twice in a minute and is therefore disabled for this session"05:52
parkerw207stdin ok thanks05:52
ant1matterRiddell: im currently reinstalling using the metapackage05:52
soulriderant1matter: do you know if you can still use generics on arraylists on java6 ? i tried it and eclipse was complaining05:52
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ScarFreewill1soulrider: i'm a learning one05:52
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ant1mattersoulrider: which jdk are you using?05:53
soulrider605:53
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ant1mattersoulrider: from Sun?05:53
soulrideri used ti be able to use generics on 505:53
soulrideryeah05:53
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ant1mattersoulrider: might be a bug - not sure - check the eclipse group05:53
stdinBluesKaj: maybe with kstart, or by right clicking the title bar -> advanced -> Special Application Settings05:53
soulriderahh alright05:54
fritschant1matter: what kubuntu realse are you currently using?05:54
stdingeniusvicks: did you make the right changes to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?05:54
geniusvicksI get this error "The Composite manager has crashed twice in a minute and is therefore disabled for this session"  when I try to chose Beryl as my window manager05:54
fritschant1matter: you are on edgy? if yes, your "package line" is correct05:54
ant1matterfritsch: 3.5.605:54
fritschant1matter: this is your kde version05:54
ant1matterfritsch: yes edgy05:54
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fritschant1matter: oki05:54
geniusvickslet me check05:54
parkerw207stdin it said i could install that package05:54
fritschant1matter: please try installing the meta package05:54
ant1matterubuntu105:54
parkerw207said there was an error05:54
ant1matterfritsch: doing that right now05:55
stdinparkerw207: what error ?05:55
ScarFreewill1!ping05:55
ubotupong05:55
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parkerw207one sec05:55
fritschant1matter: oki :-)05:55
vk6fiveknotify is a mail notification daemon for pop3 mail right?05:55
ant1matterfritsch: thanks for the help ;)05:55
fritschant1matter: does it work?05:55
parkerw207i'll bin it05:55
parkerw207!pastebin05:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:55
ant1matterfritsch: still downloading ;)05:55
fritschant1matter: mmmh, i think you could help me bett, because i am no developer ;-)05:55
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fritschant1matter: better does this mean05:55
parkerw207http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4878/05:56
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ant1matterfritsch: ive been a programmer for 8 years - its literally taken years OFF my life i think ;)05:56
fritschant1matter: hehe05:56
geniusvicksstdin, there was a line aying Load "vbe" in the main file. I also added Load "dbe". THants okay right?05:56
stdinparkerw207: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then try "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"05:57
ant1matterfritsch: went from c-c++-java-now im into rubyonrails05:57
fritschant1matter: me went from haskell into java, from there ice cold into c++05:57
parkerw207stin : dpkg: status database area is locked by another process05:57
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fritschant1matter: but i am not good at all05:57
fritsch!ruby05:57
stdingeniusvicks: can you post the file to pastebin, so I can check it ?05:57
uboturuby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB05:57
geniusvicksstdin ok05:57
ant1matterScarFreewill1: check it out - its the new rage05:57
ScarFreewill1ant1matter: ok05:58
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stdinparkerw207: ok, try this "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"05:58
ant1matterFrom someone like me who has been bogged down by corporate BS and endless process crap - ruby on rails is a dream.05:58
ScarFreewill1ant1matter: i've been programing with with java and php for a yeah almost05:58
ant1matterScarFreewill1: cool05:58
parkerw207its asking if i want to kll the process ?05:58
fritschScarFreewill1: php does not count *G*05:58
ant1matterfritsch: HA HA05:59
stdinparkerw207: yeah, kill it05:59
parkerw207ok now what ?05:59
ScarFreewill1ant1matter: i take it as a subject at school but they teach you only how to use strings and ints and array wow, LOL :P05:59
wizz33hello05:59
vk6fivene1?05:59
vk6fivene1?05:59
stdinparkerw207: now run "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"05:59
vk6fiveknotify is a mail notification daemon for pop3 mail right?05:59
hattaruby on rails, sounds like a song about a chick with a coke problem06:00
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fritschstdin: java6 ist already out for edgy? isn `t it?06:00
ant1matterScarFreewill1: YES ive been there. My first job out of college was java, c, c++, unix and ORACLE. All new to me - I had no life but had a great time. That was a longggg time ago.06:00
stdinfritsch: don't know, I'm on feisty atm06:00
ant1matterhatta: yeah i know. I saw it for a long time and thought it was a joke but it really rocks.06:00
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fritschstdin: then there is it for sue06:00
fritschstdin: for sure06:00
vk6fivedo I want to know what the Ruby-project is?06:00
parkerw207Stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4879/06:01
fritsch!sun-java6-jdk06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sun-java6-jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
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ant1mattergo to rubyonrails.com06:01
fritschstdin: mmmh i got it installed06:01
fritschstdin: on edgy and on feisty06:01
stdinfritsch: it may be in -backports06:01
ant1matterruby has been around for years - great scripting language. Biggest competitor i think is python.06:01
ScarFreewill1ant1matter: i'm making a fps as a project i'm going to get like 9999999%06:01
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fritschstdin: it is from multiverse06:01
ant1matterScarFreewill1: thats cool - what language you writing it in?06:01
cox377i need a bit of advice06:01
vk6fiveah thks ant106:02
ScarFreewill1ant1matter: java with some jme help...06:02
geniusvicksstdin, here it is http://pastebin.ca/34772006:02
stdinfritsch: yeah?06:02
Agent_bob"so you mean that it's exactly the same in every respect, except for the fact that, it's totally different and completly unrelated?"06:02
fritschstdin: yes, even for amd6406:02
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vk6fiveps did I miss the answer on knotify?06:02
Rossim1i need help with network manager, for some reason wireless disconnects on me every few minutes06:02
parkerw207stdin: i got this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4879/06:02
stdinparkerw207: do you have adept open or somethinf ?06:02
ant1matterScarFreewill1: cool - i was using opengl with glut years ago for gis stuff - fun06:02
cox377i was just playing around with the appearance settins under kde and i changed the icon size to bigger for the tool bar, but now when i go back i cant change the % back to 22% and some of the icons are not showing on the toolbar06:02
cox377is there anyway to reset KDE?06:02
fritschstdin: but no browserplugin ... but does not really matter, ist long as flash is just working in the chroot06:02
parkerw207lol ooo yeah !06:02
parkerw207ha haha06:02
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fritschcox377: there is, you want an asycnronious one or a synchronious one?06:03
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ant1matter\leave Restaring-in gnome(yuk) kubuntu reinstall done!06:03
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stdingeniusvicks: ok, that looks good06:03
cox377fritsch: what do u mean?06:03
fritschcox377: with the async you will loose all your kde setting, kopete, passwords, kmail settings ...06:04
cox377fritsch: ahh ok06:04
cox377what about with sync?06:04
stdin!info sun-java6-plugin feisty06:04
ubotusun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 72 kB06:04
fritschcox377: mmmh hardway ;-)06:04
cox377how do u do the async?06:04
vk6fivemmm kill -8 knotify .... anyone think that's abad idea?06:04
geniusvicksstdin, so what do I do now?06:04
cox377fritsch: does that mean thunderbird & firefox also?06:05
fritschcox377: nope06:05
cox377ok06:05
parkerw207ok stdin it says its installed , is that it now ?06:05
stdingeniusvicks: I think you need to logout and back in again, then press Alt-F2, and type in: baryl-manager06:05
fritschcox377: only kde programms which store there config in /home/yourlogin/.kde06:05
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cox377fritsch: ok cool06:05
parkerw207ahhh its works :)06:05
stdinparkerw207: try starting frostwire now06:05
cox377how do i go about doing iot?06:05
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fritschcox377: log out, switch to a text console, login with your user06:05
fritschcox377: rm -r  ~/.kde06:06
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parkerw207thanks stdin06:06
fritschcox377: but, be warned: I say this again06:06
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stdinparkerw207: no problem :)06:06
cox377fritsch: be warned?06:06
fritschcox377: this deletes every custom setting you have done with your "personal" kde settings06:06
cox377:(06:06
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cox377i think thats quite a lot actually06:06
stdinfritsch: you know the Kde devs hate it when we tell people to do that :P06:07
fritschstdin: yes, i know06:07
cox377i suppose on and off been tweeking and making it the way i like it for like 6 months06:07
fritschstdin: but ... you know alle config files, where the icon sizes and so on are?06:07
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fritschstdin: and he aksed for a reset06:07
fritschstdin: i told him the "asyncrhonious" one ;-)06:07
cox377fritsch: i just need to reset these icons06:07
fritschstdin: but, if you know how to reset theses settings in another way, please help him06:07
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fritschcox377: try: Systemsettings -> Appearance -> Icons06:08
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cox377fritsch: i go there and its all gone screwy06:08
stdinfritsch: I don't06:08
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fritschcox377: Advanced06:08
fritschcox377: and try to reset there06:08
cox377fritsch: the icons of system settings dont even appear06:08
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fritschcox377: mmmh06:08
draikWhere is a good place to shop for shuttle desktops?06:09
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vk6five!knotify06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knotify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
fritschstdin: sorry, don`t know any clean way ...06:09
rojanuHi I am going to install kubuntu on 5 computers what is the best of installation06:09
fritschcox377: for you: do not know any clean way, then06:09
cox377fritsch: nothing under advanced06:09
wizz33how do i get the SYSFS{idProduct} from an usb scanner?06:09
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draikrojanu: explain06:09
geniusvicksstdin, thanks. Its working fine now. I can impress my windoze friends who go "wow" about the MS Vista grafix06:09
fritschcox377: the at the bottom is: "reset to default"?06:09
cox377i've restarted, it just wont allow me to change anything, also the icons in the task bar have disappeared06:10
stdingeniusvicks: yeah :)06:10
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fritschcox377: sorry, me only know the hardway06:10
stdingeniusvicks: you want a tip tho, to help performance ?06:10
stdinguess not06:10
cox377fritsch: you can reset your setting u have made before clicking apply but not after06:10
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fritschcox377: bad06:10
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rojanui need to install 5 machines & configure06:11
fritschcox377: sorry06:11
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fritschrojanu: same config, same machines?06:11
BluesKajstdin, it's odd , i fixed the FF full page prob by choosing maximize in the tiitlebar , but it was already checked ...strange behaviour06:11
rojanuyes06:11
fritschrojanu: just install one06:11
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fritschrojanu: use partimage und copy over the partition images ...06:11
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rojanuok06:11
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fritschrojanu: so every computer "is the" same, only change ip addresses on each afterwards ...06:12
stdinBluesKaj: hmm, strange indeed06:12
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Lynourefritsch: makes sense to change the hostnames as well06:13
fritschLynoure: yes of course ;-)06:13
fritschLynoure: thx06:13
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rojanuthanks fritsch06:14
fritschrojanu: could be a bit hard to "play" the backup onto the oterh computers06:15
fritschrojanu: or even making the partimage file06:15
fritschrojanu: would suggest you: after having installed the first computer: bootup a livecd (knoppix, or some other)06:16
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fritschrojanu: plug in an USB 2.0 external drive, and partimage the files on this drive06:16
cox377appears to have fixed itself06:16
cox377lol06:16
fritschrojanu: after this boot up the knoppix on the other machines and "restore" the file06:16
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fritschrojanu: partimage is a really cool tool, i use it to "jump between evil and more evil" ;-)06:17
Agent_bobdate +'%s' will give you a different tem digit number every second...06:17
fritschrojanu: M$ Vista and M$ XP06:17
fritschAgent-bob: seconds since ... should be okay?06:18
rojanuactually machines currently have XP but I have convinced the community centre to install kubuntu06:19
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fritschrojanu: have much fun06:20
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fritschrojanu: just perfectly configure the first one ... installing the others does not cost anything06:20
rojanuThank you, bet I will have so much fun06:20
mato_do anybody know how to install GTK?06:20
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stdinmato_: just install any GTK app and all the libs will be installed06:21
khaije1hi, how do i revert my default shell to bash instead of dash?06:21
mato_I have already GIMP installed...Is it GTK?06:21
stdinmato_: yeah06:22
hattaGTK is the gimp tool kit, so yeah06:22
mato_but this is not a general problem06:22
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stdinkhaije1: just change /bin/sh to point to bash06:23
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Agent_bobkhaije1 groups & users  advanced  shell06:24
vk6fiveam i right in assuming beryl is anothe DE?06:24
khaije1stdin: no kidding eh? i set it this way through some sort of dpkg dialoge, is it okay to just change it in another way?06:25
stdinvk6five: no, it's just a WM06:25
jhutchinsvk6five: Yeah, supposed to go up against vista's new stuff.06:25
vk6fiveah k06:25
Agent_bob!beryl06:25
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:25
stdinkhaije1: you can just change the symlink06:25
khaije1okeedoke, thanks folk :-)06:26
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Agent_bobkhaije1 you can edit /etc/passwd and change it there dirrectly.06:26
vk6fiveisn't it in the etc/user.profile or something06:26
soulriderhello, whats the default CD burner in ubuntu ?06:26
stdinkhaije1: the "dpkg" way is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash", but it just changes the link anyway06:27
mato_I was compilling NMAP and when I typed a command "make", this error shows me06:27
mato_www.palenka.wz.cz/problem06:27
Agent_bobstdin you do know that bash when called as /bin/sh does not function like bash when called as /bin/bash  don't you ?06:27
stdinsoulrider: k3b06:27
khaije1Agent_bob: oh i need to change it for /bin/sh, not the login shell06:27
vk6fiveah BOB's got it... I'm less help than a bad case of the flu ;)06:27
Jucato!dash06:27
ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"06:27
soulriderstdin: ubuntu not kubuntu06:27
Jucatosoulrider: Gnomebaker, afaik06:27
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hattakhaije1: use chsh to change your sehll06:27
stdinsoulrider: ahh, it's gnome baker or something i think06:27
Jucatosoulrider: nautilus too06:27
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Agent_bobkhaije1 why for /bin/sh ?06:28
grotheskHi there!06:28
soulriderbecause k3b locks my computer when i tyr to burn a disc06:28
grotheskDid ubuntu release a kernel update today?06:28
stdinAgent_bob: you do know that /bin/sh isn't /bin/bash in edgy, it's /bin/dash   don't you ?06:28
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stdingrothesk: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates06:28
khaije1Agent_bob: it's the shell that alot of scripts link to, it can cause problems as described in !dash, but it's included b/c it's supposedly faster06:29
grotheskstdin: Thx!06:29
stdin:)06:29
khaije1i'm having problems, it's just something to check06:29
Agent_bobstdin yes i do.06:29
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mato_DO anyone know what to do with this? www.palenka.wz.cz/problem06:29
stdinAgent_bob: then your question makes no sense06:29
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Agent_bobkhaije1 yes some people still write bash scripts and call them as #!/bin/sh   that's where the error is.  not that dash is linked to /bin/sh  dash is fully posix compliant.06:31
stdinmato_: maybe you need the -dev files, like libgtk1.2-dev06:31
Agent_bobstdin and your answer makes more ?06:31
mato_stdin:thnx, trying, installing06:32
jhutchinsmato_: "Your system does not appear to have GTK (www.gtk.org) installed." That seems pretty clear to me.06:32
mato_but I am sure I have GTK06:32
stdinAgent_bob: yeah :)06:32
khaije1Agent_bob: ya i'm getting the same error as before so i guess it's not related to dash, anyone seen this error before?06:32
khaije1n1x0r@ganymede:~/downloads/firefox32/install_flash_player_9_linux$ firefox3206:32
khaije1bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied06:32
jhutchinsmato_: like stdin said, you need the dev package.  That has the headers from the original build.06:32
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Agent_bobkhaije1 but a work around for the bad code is to change the symlink     that does not change your shell to bash   it changes you sh shell to bashes sh function06:33
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Agent_bobrather than dashes sh function06:34
khaije1Agent_bob: ya, i understand, turns out it wasn't the cause anyway since i tried it either way, it's just that was the most recent change i remember making... now i'm not sure what to do06:34
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Agent_bobkhaije1 what error exactly ?06:34
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Agent_boband note that i'm lagging almost too much to help here.06:35
khaije1bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied <---- i'm getting this w/ every script i try to run06:35
Agent_bobless /usr/local/bin/firefox32  is that a script ?06:36
mato_I installed it with no effect...06:36
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Agent_bobkhaije1 ls -l /bin/sh06:37
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khaije1!paste06:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:38
khaije1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4888/06:39
jhutchinskhaije1: Try this:06:40
jhutchinssudo rm /bin/sh06:40
khaije1jhutchins: you serious?06:40
jhutchinssudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh06:40
jhutchinskhaije1: Yup.06:40
jhutchinskhaije1: You won't hurt anything.06:41
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khaije1jhutchins: oh i just tried that, its the same result, i don't mind doing it again to show you though06:41
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jhutchinsYou can always link it back to dash.06:41
jhutchinskhaije1: ls -l /bin/sh to be sure it's updtaed.06:41
surgyhello06:41
surgyim guessing the update bug has not been fixed?06:42
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khaije1lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-02-09 12:31 /bin/sh -> bash06:42
khaije1n1x0r@ganymede:~/downloads/firefox32/install_flash_player_9_linux$ firefox3206:42
khaije1bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied06:42
lunchboxafter taking out my linux hd with grub my windoze wont boot, how do I fix that?06:42
lunchboxI know I shouldnt06:42
khaije1did you catch that jhutchins? ^^^06:42
lunchboxseparate drives by the way06:43
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mato_ouuuuu meeeeeen06:43
jhutchinskhaije1: Paste me the first few lines of the flash installer...06:43
surgylunchbox: gho into your automated system recovery in winows and type chkdsk /p  and then fixmbr06:43
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mato_it works, thanks a lot, but I had to type command "./configure" once again06:44
lunchboxtnks surgy06:44
jhutchins"taking out my linux hd with grub"?06:44
khaije1jhutchins: i just did tar -zxf && mv flash.so /usr/local/firefox32/plugins06:44
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lunchboxyea that too06:45
lunchboxlol06:45
surgylunchbox: np06:45
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lunchboxI just wanted to clarify that grub was on it06:45
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lunchboxnot lilo06:46
willy_bonjour a tous06:46
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willy_ya til du monde pour aid un debutant...?06:46
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Eruantalon!fr06:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:48
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andryhi all!06:50
mato_thanks06:50
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andryjust started adept and have linux-image-generic in upgradable status. but it doesn't go throuh06:51
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ant1matterfritsch: thanks a ton for the help it worked great!06:52
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ant1matterfritsch: (installing kde with the metapackage )06:52
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fritschant1matter: :-)06:54
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intelikeyi made it back.06:54
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magnus_Hi06:55
intelikeynow how far did we get on the bad inturpriter issue ?06:55
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magnus_First time for me to use irc06:55
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intelikeyi still want to know if that  /usr/local/bin/firefox?? was a script or not ?06:56
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jhutchinsandry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage06:56
jhutchinsandry: Sorry, bad shot with the mouse. :https://launchpad.net/bugs/8397606:57
magnus_Any dreambox users here?06:57
intelikeystdin did y'all get that fixed  ?06:57
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jhutchinsintelikey: I believe he moved the file manually.06:57
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intelikeyjhutchins ok.  anything that works.06:58
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sabayonuserhello06:58
vk6fivere: linux-image-386 ---- 2.6.15-25 installed version 2.6.15-26 candidate version; required 2.6.15-28 --> keh?06:58
intelikeyi hated that i couldn't answer in a timely fashion06:58
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sabayonuserdoes anyone here know how to use sabayon?06:58
jhutchinsYeah, it'll bite him again if he doesn't fix it though.06:58
intelikeyvk6five /topic06:58
magnus_Hi sabayonuser06:58
jhutchinsvk6five: https://launchpad.net/bugs/8397606:59
sabayonuserlike, how to move around the windows and stuff06:59
sabayonuserthe title bars dont move the windows06:59
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khaije1intelikey, jhutchins: i'm still having difficulty with the shell, but i'm not sure what to try next06:59
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jhutchinskhaije1: Try running the shell: bash or sh06:59
intelikeykhaije1 ok what error ?   is it still with that one script ?06:59
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jhutchinskhaije1: Were you running that script as root?07:00
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khaije1no, but there are errors even then07:00
khaije1intelikey: it's with all scripts actually07:00
khaije1i'll show you what i mean...07:01
intelikeykhaije1 ok.07:01
jhutchinskhaije1: Is it consistently a permissions error?07:01
khaije1bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied07:01
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khaije1it says this with any script i try to run07:01
intelikeyyes that is still trying to run /usr/local/bin/firefox3207:01
jhutchinskhaije1: Can you run sh directly?07:02
intelikeyls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox3207:02
khaije1intelikey: oh what a good idea!07:02
intelikeytype /usr/local/bin/firefox3207:03
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intelikeyand if it's a script edit and change the first line from  #!/bin/sh    to  #!/bin/bash07:03
khaije1intelikey: same thing ---> sh: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied07:03
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intelikeyand what is this ./nwn file   is that a script ?07:04
khaije1-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 191 2007-02-09 12:05 /usr/local/bin/firefox3207:04
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intelikeysee you don't execute binarry files with  sh blah07:04
khaije1intelikey: ya, it's the neverwinter nights launch script07:04
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ubuntu_w07:05
intelikeykhaije1 ok sudo nano /usr/local/bin/firefox3207:05
lunchboxwhats the minimum amountof RAM needed for Kubuntu07:05
lunchboxor preferable..07:05
AxlRoselunchbox: I'd say 512 preferable07:05
lunchboxty07:05
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AxlRoselunchbox: but I've run it on much less07:06
khaije1intelikey: it links to /bin/sh07:06
intelikeylunchbox 192 to install from the live   128 to install from the alternate with having to tweek things.07:06
lunchboxmaybe 25607:06
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intelikeykhaije1 change #!/bin/sh    to  #!/bin/bash07:06
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intelikeysave and test it07:06
lunchboxty07:07
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khaije1n1x0r@ganymede:~/bin/nwn$ firefox3207:07
khaije1bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied07:07
intelikeys/with/without/ lunchbox07:07
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khaije1same thing intelikey, it's strange07:07
intelikeylunchbox as far as running kubuntu  it will run in 64m07:07
intelikeykhaije1 now show me the error07:07
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lunchboxdamn07:08
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khaije1intelikey: i posted it above, are you looking for something else?07:08
lunchboxwithout a gui? hehe07:08
sabayonuserIm premier here by the way, but Im using the sabayon liveCD, and all the windows refuse to move07:08
intelikeywithout xorg ubuntu linux will run in 16m07:08
sabayonuserthe title bars dont do anything, theres no way to maximize07:09
lunchboxim impressed07:09
intelikeykhaije1 no.    hmmm     ls -l /bin/bash07:09
AxlRoselunchbox: ya if you are just doing command line you can run it on next to nothing07:09
khaije1intelikey: i tried changing the linking for sh from bash to dash and back and it didn't help07:09
AxlRoselunchbox: but then there really is no reason to use Kubuntu07:09
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intelikeythe only other time i've seen that behaviour it was a script named /bin/bash07:10
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khaije1-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 777584 2006-09-19 17:59 /bin/bash07:10
lunchboxyea07:10
lunchboxjust checking...moving a hard drive07:10
intelikeykhaije1 type /bin/bash07:11
khaije1intelikey: just another shell07:12
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intelikeyno the command     "type /bin/bash"07:12
khaije1intelikey: oh! haha07:12
intelikeykhaije1 also are you doing this in a 32bit chrooted env ?07:13
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intelikey!chroot07:13
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box07:13
khaije1intelikey: this is what it says --> /bin/bash is /bin/bash07:13
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intelikeyok.07:13
khaije1intelikey: i'm using ia32 libs from this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava07:14
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intelikeyok i think that the problem exists in the 64bit/32bit translation.    as for a fix.   check  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot   and you just got out of my relmn when you went 64bit.07:15
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mzanfardinook, some how I've managed to make one of the icons in my main menu much larger than the rest.  How do I make them all uniform (or, simply set the oversized icon to regular size)?07:16
khaije1intelikey: i don't think this is an amd64 issue though... :-(07:16
jhutchinsmzanfardino: How did you end up there in the first place?07:17
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intelikeykhaije1 it may not be.    what do you think it is ?07:17
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mzanfardinohow did I end up where?  I have no idea.  I opened my menu and now my System icon is twice the size of the rest.  I'm not sure what I did, as I'm new to KDE and was hoping someone might know...07:17
intelikeyyou have proved that /bin/bash is usable from the cli but not from a script.07:18
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khaije1intelikey: well some of the scripts that worked before aren't working now, i seem to have disrupted something while trying to fix another problem07:19
intelikeykhaije1 test...   cd ;echo -e '#!/bin/bash \n\n echo "testing" ' > testfile.sh ;sh testfile.sh07:19
khaije1intelikey: not today, sometime in the past few weeks... actually i'm sort of at a loss07:19
intelikeykhaije1 lets see what that does ^07:20
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khaije1intelikey: it echo'd testing... should i run the script it generated?07:21
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intelikeyyou did.   but yes07:22
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intelikeyso bash and sh are working correctly.   it must be ia6407:22
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intelikeyyou can change the perms on testfile.sh to executable and test it by executing it.07:23
khaije1intelikey: ya, that seems likely, i'll uninstall all the ia32 libs and reinstall only the ones i need07:24
intelikeyyou did run it.   that's the last step of the command ;sh testfile.sh07:24
khaije1intelikey: o i c07:24
intelikeykhaije1 ok i'm gone for a while but i'll be back later if you haven't gotten it yet, we'll test some more things.07:25
khaije1intelikey: cool, thx!07:25
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intelikeyluck with it.07:25
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ilkerhi07:28
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ilkerwhen  give "sudo apt-get install subversion autoconf automake1.9 libtool cvs linux-headers-ARCH"  take this message for linux-headers-ARCH E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-ARCH07:31
ilkeris it important07:31
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vk6fivedq: does ne1 know of a lcars theme for kde?07:31
EruantalonARCH should be replaced with your architecture07:32
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vk6fiveer i38607:32
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vk6fiveer = eg07:32
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sorush20is there anyway that I could findout the password for my wallet there seems to be something wrong and I keep getting error code 9 when the password is incorrect..07:33
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mamboInterface vmnet1 is not marked "UP". This should be done at boot time;07:34
mambowhat should i do?07:34
mamboVirtual device Ethernet0 will start disconnected.07:34
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vk6five!subversion07:36
ubotusubversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion07:36
larsiviare there any info on how to handle two monitors/ desktops? They are in the same session, but with a kicker each and the other don't use the config for my user07:36
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vk6fiveor would I be looking more for an lcars WM07:41
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vk6five!lcars07:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lcars - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:43
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andryjhutchins: thanks a lot!07:44
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vk6fiveCan konversation do multi servers in one client instance?07:47
larsivivk6five: yes07:47
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vk6fivehow2 join new server is not obvious --- /me is toooo used to mIRC07:49
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jhutchinsvk6five: Yes.  F2.07:51
jhutchinsvk6five: I usually run a dozen tabs on three different networks.07:52
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khaije1wahoo! i think i found the problem, i recently converted from physical to logical volumes but didn't add the exec option07:52
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eismacan someone help me install my tar.gz themes onto the theme manager?07:53
eismait keeps saying its an invalid format07:53
khaije1i'll test this and check back in a second :-) gotta watch though mount args !07:53
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jhutchinseisma: Is that maybe because you got it from somewhere other than the package mirrors?07:53
jhutchinseisma: Is it possible that it's not a compatible package?07:54
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vk6fiveargh, darnit... large irc network that was being serverly DOSed for months on end a year or two ago... what's it called. ---- mental blank // it'd be a senior moment .. if I was that old.07:55
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vk6fiveus-based really big network ... equally big mental blank.07:58
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Gtwyvk6five: DALnet?07:58
Gtwyvk6five: Efnet?07:58
hnsnok07:59
vk6fivedanke that's the one :)07:59
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vk6fiveDAL07:59
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Gtwyvk6five: i stay away from that network07:59
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vk6fivereason?08:01
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vk6five2many noobs and dhea### !lang alert08:02
vk6five??08:02
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eismahow do i change the font color of the text in the menus?08:03
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vk6fivemmmm I've just realised that when I killed knotify I lost all open ff windows?08:04
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vk6fiveand... the annoying mail pop3 password error keeps popping up every 4-5 minutes08:05
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jhutchinsvk6five: Tell kmail not to check that account every 4-5 minutes.08:06
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GunirusHi08:07
GunirusI've a problem with kdm08:07
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GunirusWhen i boot my system , iget a blank black screen with a blinking _08:08
Gunirusbut not kdm08:08
vk6fivethat's just it... I have, but --- it's not kmail (or at least I don't think it is) a) it's not open, b) i've changed it, c) it is set up correctly and knows 1- the password and 2- knows the correct domain to check... this one is popping up asking for the pass to an account on another domain. -- go figure!08:08
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Gunirusany ideas?08:09
scoobihello08:09
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Gunirushi sc0tt08:09
Gunirusoops08:09
Gunirusscoobi:08:09
scoobihey i need some help :S08:09
Guniruswith?08:09
dhqhow do i disable video on my pc and enable it when i want it08:09
vk6fivehola scoobs08:09
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dhqhow do i disable videos playback  on my pc and enable it when i want it08:10
vk6fivedhq: just an idea... remove the wire from the back that leads to the screen and put it back when you want it.08:10
AlllexHow can I open .rpm files?08:10
scoobivk6five lol :D08:11
vk6fiveAlllex: sudo alien -k packagename.rpm08:12
AlllexThanks08:12
vk6fiveconverts the rpm to .deb08:12
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jhutchinsIs there an app that I can use to pop up a message window on an X session via ssh?08:13
vk6fiveif the package has scripts add --scripts after -k08:13
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AlllexDo I replace the "alien" with anything?08:13
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vk6fiveumm you might need to 'sudo apt-get install alien' first08:14
vk6fiveif you don't have alien on your box08:15
AlllexAh thank08:15
Alllexs08:15
cpk1Alllex: what are you using an rpm of?08:18
AlllexA graphics card installer08:18
AlllexDriver Installer*08:18
cpk1Alllex: err why use an rpm for that?08:19
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Alllexhttp://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-firegl.html08:19
cpk1Alllex: what kind of card you have?08:20
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AlllexATI Radeon Xpress 200 intergrated08:20
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cpk1why not follow the ubuntu wiki?08:20
AlllexI've tried the driver designed for it08:20
AlllexAh, well I managed to download it, and execute it. And set it up via Konsole- however on my start menu their is an "ATITechnology" icon. When I click on it nothing happens/.08:21
esbenHmmm.... if apt-get gives me a "Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages" line... what exactly is meant, and how do I get it ot work? :)08:21
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pestilencewhen i plug in my external hard drive, it is automatically mounted.  however, it does not observe the contents of my /etc/fstab.  why is this?08:23
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jhutchinspestilence: the udev stuff is generating it's own fstab entry.08:26
vk6fivekio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-menu-launcher.desktop has Type=PanelApp instead of "Application" or "Service" -- I'm asuming i need to edit the filetype to application??08:26
jhutchinspestilence: The system's still a bit of a mess.08:26
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jhutchinsvk6five: No, but if you want to run it you should add it to the panel.08:27
vk6fivethat was the error message thrown up by kbuildsycoca08:28
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menahi08:29
jhutchinsvk6five: Yes.08:29
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menajucato, are you here08:30
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vk6fivejhutchins: so?08:31
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jhutchinsI love this.  My system's using over 90% of the CPU, but it's still perfectly usable.  Applications are a little slow to load, but otherwise no problems with mail, web, irc, etc.08:32
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Mo-Zanyone know of a good Howto for xgl on Kubuntu/Ati ?08:32
jhutchinslinux rocks!08:32
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Mo-Z!xgl08:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:33
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menai have a problem with the lanaguge in kubuntu or with xp ...the problem is when i make a folder on kubuntu  in diffrent languge but not english when i opened xp to see it its appear wrong not as the same i had make on kubuntu .........any idea08:33
BluesKajhey gents, how do get rid of the annoying 'sounds' in kde , for instance when i close a tab in konversation ... I hated the sounds in windows and was able to turn them off . Where do i turn them off in KDE ?08:34
jhutchinsmena: All I can give you is a hint: codepages08:34
vk6fiveload extra language support in xp??08:34
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EruantalonBluesKaj: In systemsettings08:34
BluesKajwhere in sys/settings ?08:35
EruantalonI am not sure what it is in english but announcements probably08:35
LynoureBluesKaj: Sounds&Multimedia08:35
vk6fivesettings/configure notification08:35
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LynoureBluesKaj: and System notifications from there08:36
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PensacolaI can't get into the gui with nvidia drivers after the kernel upgrade, how to fix this?08:36
menajhutchins, mena08:36
menamean *08:37
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underdog5004Pensacola, it's a common issue right now. Sit tight while the repo guys add the necessary packages08:39
Pensacolaok thx08:39
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surgyi seem to be having a probelm with efficientcy08:42
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surgyall of my programs take like 30 seconds to load or more, it takes jedit at least 2 minutes to load, and konversation takes about 3 minutes, any tips?08:43
vk6fivedq: does n-e-1 know of a lcars theme for kde? or would I be looking more for an lcars WM??08:43
surgyim running an amd64 +3200 with 512 mb ram and a geforce4 ti 4200 so these load times are a bit slow i whould think08:43
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vk6fiveget more ram?? oops no we're not in #windoze08:43
surgy512mb should be plenty, 512 is twice the minimum08:44
vk6fiveyeah, that was my point.08:44
surgyand if i load programs from terminal there load times are quite a bit shorter than if i run them from a link08:45
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surgyis there a check disk utitlity that i can use to make sure my base filesystem is not damaged?08:47
di3surgy: i had the same issue then i tried ubuntu a year ago. i think your hard drive works slow under ubuntu08:47
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di3try to run hdparm to find out what it's going on08:48
surgydi3: its a 7500 rpm western digital sata drive, it should not be slow08:48
di3it may use cpu for i/o not dma08:48
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surgyoh08:49
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menastdin, i hade a problem with the languges on Xp and this happening when i make a folser on kubuntu with another languge diffrent form english08:49
di3try to run hdparm -i to find out which mode your hard dirve is using08:49
surgyhdparm has a bunch of "WARNING DANGEROUS" next to a bunch of the parameters08:49
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surgyhdparm -i is not a valid parameter it outputs a list of parameters when i use that08:50
di3sorry, "sudo hdparm -I /dev/your_hard_drive"08:51
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surgyi see08:51
di3it's not dangerous08:51
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surgy/dev/sdb:08:51
surgy HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device08:51
surgy/dev/sdb1:08:52
surgy HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device08:52
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di3are you sure sdb is your hard drive?08:53
xenolhi08:53
surgydi3: i only have two, sdb and sda08:54
xenolplz is it possibble to strech icons in KDE as in gnome?08:54
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surgydi3: sdb is the one i chose for installation08:54
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surgyxenol: open the icon graphic in kate and the resize it08:54
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xenolplz is it possibble to strech icons in KDE as in gnom08:55
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di3surgy, try to measure the speed of your disk, run "sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdb"08:56
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surgydi3: Timing buffered disk reads:  142 MB in  3.02 seconds =  47.01 MB/sec08:58
surgydi3: thats not quite sata speeds.......08:58
di3why?08:58
surgysata == 100mbps + right?08:58
di3i have a 5400 rpm fujitsu, it show 27,89 MB/sec08:59
surgyoh ok then im cool08:59
shinigami!modprobe08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
surgyso it seams my hdd is up to speed, what are some other causes of this lag?08:59
shinigamihi, can anyone teach me how to modprobe my sound card ?08:59
di3no, 100mps is the theoretical interface speed09:00
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xenol!gfxboot09:00
ubotugfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB09:00
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di3surgy, that's interesting, look into your log files, may be you will find the cause09:01
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surgydi3: sorry i have never looked at my logs before (my linux career is only 1 month old :))09:01
surgyhow do i do that?09:02
shinigamihi, why do i need to modprobe snd-seq everytime i log into my system?09:02
di3ok :) go to the console and run "cat /var/log/syslog"09:02
shinigamican i let it do it automatically?09:02
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di3do you see any error messages or warnings?09:03
nodeserthow can i set dchp configuration?09:03
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surgydi3: a lot09:04
surgydi3: want me to pastebin it for you?09:05
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di3surgy, ok, i will take a look09:05
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surgyhttp://www.pastebin.ca/34791509:06
angasulewhen you execute a game and then it crashes and the screen resolution is wrong, how do you get it back to normal without restarting X?09:06
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tishperdon la lista de canales despaoles?09:08
angasule!es09:08
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:08
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angasulewhen you execute a game and it crashes and the screen resolution is wrong, how do you get it back to normal without restarting X? ctrl+alt++ doesn't do anything09:08
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AxlRoseangasule: you know I've been wondering the same thing09:10
AxlRoseangasule: it really bugs me09:10
pestilencejhutchins: so if i wanted my drives to be mounted consistently in a certain place when i plug them in, how do i do that09:10
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pestilencei tried putting UUID entries in /etc/fstab, but apparently it ignores that09:10
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di3surgy, it looks like your computer is trying to obtain an ip address from dhcp server but the dhcp server doesn't respond. but i don't think that causes the problem09:11
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di3so, run "top" in the console09:11
surgydi3: isnt that do to the update bug that we have been plagued with?09:11
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di3it will show you cpu usage on your system09:12
di3which bug?09:12
surgyadept shows it needs updates all the time even if you update, acts like a succesfull update and then closes and wants the same updates again09:13
surgyand at the top most line of "top" im seeing a process popping and leaving switches from "xorg" to "kicker"09:13
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di3does any process consume a lot of cpu time? when your system runs idle the total cpu usage shouldn't be more than 2-3%09:15
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FFKhiho09:16
surgyactually konsole is eating the most right now at 3.2% and when i switch windows xorg takes 2%09:17
surgylooks normal to me09:17
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di3yes it's ok09:17
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surgymy total right now is like 5% but im running konversation09:17
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xenolplz wat do i need to press to see running processes?09:18
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di3which applications load slow? can you name one?09:18
surgyxenol: terminal >> "top"09:18
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jonathan__what is the command to compile a kernel09:18
surgyfirefox, jedit, konversation09:18
surgyto name a few09:18
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elcuco_hi all,09:19
xenolsurgy:  hmm and in x.org?09:19
jonathan__what command do i use to compile the kernel09:19
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surgyxenol: what?09:19
cucohi all09:20
surgycuco: hiyas09:20
xenolsurgy nvm where can i see the load of my ram? free in konsole?09:20
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cucoi am getting new updates in adept: the linux-image* issue. is it safe to install now?09:20
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surgyxenol: open konsole and type: top     it will tell you how much ram each process is takinh09:20
crustyhello everybody! there are any equivalent programs to windows move maker for kubuntu 6.1009:20
di3ok, then try to launch firefox from the command line and look at the error messages it produces09:20
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surgydi3: i always get these errors: http://www.pastebin.ca/347935 and thats the only errors firefox gave09:22
di3surgy, ok, these errors are normal for ubuntu09:23
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surgydi3: yeah i heard that before..... but i still dont like the idea for an error to be "normal"09:24
di3well, i am running out of ideas :(09:24
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surgydi3: it kewl, dont sweat it09:24
jhutchinscrusty: What steps do you need to do?09:24
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di3surgy, you can get rid of these errors modifying x.org configuration file09:25
crustywell.........im starting from noting! all i got are mpg file from my digital camera end oudio files09:25
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surgydi3: with just a text editor?09:25
jhutchinscrusty: What do you want for output?09:25
crustyim looking for someting lik win move maker09:26
jhutchinscrusty: I haven't run windows for four years or more.09:26
coreymon77hi guys09:26
surgydi3: and whats the defualt directory of x.org?09:26
crustyaniting that is a small...........i need to send it on internet to a friend09:26
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di3yes, from konsole run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"09:26
jhutchinscrusty: However, I'm in the midst of a big video project now, so I can probably help you if you tell me what you want to do.09:26
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surgydi3: and what lines should i remove?09:26
coreymon77i suggest that you put the broken dependency thing at the front of the topic09:26
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crustyok09:27
jhutchinscrusty: Do you want to compress it, edit it, transcode it?09:27
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weedarDoes there exist a program to encode videos to Divx (not xvid) for linux?09:27
di3the lines describing wacom input devices09:27
jhutchinscoreymon77: Topic scrolls off on some clients.09:27
coreymon77i know09:27
jhutchinsweedar: Yes.09:27
coreymon77but most people dont look at that09:27
sabayonuserdoes anyone here have experience installing beryl on kubuntu?  I want to know how risky that is09:27
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coreymon77its a very important problem though09:28
surgydi3: i can just comment them out right?09:28
coreymon77so it should be at the front09:28
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di3yes09:28
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weedarjhutchins: next question is of course what this program is? :)09:28
jhutchinsweedar: ffmpeg or mencoder (mplayer) should do it.09:28
di3not forget about Section "ServerLayout"09:28
jhutchinsweedar: You may want a wrapper like tovid or a GUI like avidemux2.09:29
weedarjhutchins: I've tried, but can only seem to encode to xvid with ffmpeg, not sure about mencoder09:29
crustyi want to take small video clip from my digital camera and mix it with sound file.......in the vey i like it! i just want to edit my hown move.09:29
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jhutchinsweedar: I've found that if I use a wrapper like tovid, I can get the commands.09:29
jhutchinsIt took several days of experimenting to get what I want.09:29
weedarjhutchins: aha, I'll look into it!09:29
jhutchinscrusty: Probably avidemux or cinellera.09:29
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jhutchinscrusty: You can do it from the command line.09:30
crustyok ill try! thanks a lot09:30
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Falladirmy adept_manager claims that it can't update the kernel headers and kernel image without breaking dependencies09:30
crustyim not very good with it09:30
Falladiris this a bad thing?09:30
jhutchinscrusty: weedar: A lot of movies are made with linux these days, so no excuse not to have a totally professional output.09:30
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xenolwhere in kde can i turn off that annoying kwallet?09:31
di3surgy, if  you are not sure i can check your x.org conf, just pastebin it09:31
jhutchinsFalladir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage09:31
jhutchinsdang it!09:31
surgydi3: i commented all three of the wacom's out, and i still get the errors09:31
jhutchinsFalladir: https://launchpad.net/bugs/8397609:31
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crustyiv tryed some.........the main problem is in a vay or another i can do wat i need09:31
jhutchinssurgy: Did you restart X?09:31
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di3yes restart your X server09:32
jhutchinscrusty: I'm currently using avidemux.09:32
weedarjhutchins: my problem is that my dvd-recorder is real picky and doesn't seem to support xvid09:32
jhutchinsweedar: Your recorder or your player?09:32
surgyno do i need to restart x to reinitialize xorg.conf?09:32
jhutchinssurgy: Yes.09:32
surgydi3: http://www.pastebin.ca/347946 thats my xorg09:32
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crustyi have avidemux09:32
jhutchinssurgy: ctrl-alt-backspace of you're in a hurry.09:32
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elyon225Could someone recommend a good app to record my desktop to video?  I've tried istanbul, but it throws errors at me that I can't figure out.09:33
surgyjhutchins: i prefer a full restart :)09:33
crustyit does not let me open any oudio file09:33
surgyi will brb09:33
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di3surgy, you forgot about section "ServerLayout"09:33
jhutchinscrusty: what format are they again?09:33
surgydi3: what? you didnt say anything about server layout09:33
di3it still has InputDevice    "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"09:33
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crustymp3 and wav09:33
di3i said, see above09:33
weedarjhutchins: dvd-recorder/player :)09:33
weedarthe one connected to my tv09:34
di3and InputDevice    "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"09:34
di3and InputDevice    "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"09:34
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surgydi3: so comment the entire server layout section? or just those lines?09:34
jhutchinsweedar: You should look at tovid for mastering the output to DVD.09:34
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di3just those three lines09:34
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jhutchinscrusty: You may be having codec issues, but avidemux should open those.09:34
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jhutchinscrusty: You can also try Cinelerra (checked the spelling).  It's very polished.09:35
surgydi3: and restart x?09:35
crustyit should! i know09:35
jhutchinscrusty: Can you play the files?09:35
crustyill try that09:35
crustyyes i can09:35
jhutchinscrusty: I recommend mplayer09:36
di3yes,09:36
crustythey are all right09:36
jhutchinscrusty: What version of avidemux do you have?09:36
Falladirjhutchins: so (in very basic terms) the latest kernel upgrade broke ubuntu at some level, so we're waiting for a fix?09:36
weedarjhutchins: that will probably what I do if I can't encode to divx, but I see it as a waste when the video-clip is just about 30 minutes09:36
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crustyavidemux 2.1.209:36
khaije1jhutchins: hey i got it to work, turns out i had the mount options for the filesystem it was on set wrong :-/09:37
jhutchinsweedar: Well, if your player is picky, mastering a proper DVD is a good way to go, and tovid is a great set of scripts for it.09:37
crustyo dont know....iv been editing foll dvd move in the past. and now i can make such silly thing09:37
jhutchinskhaije1: Yeah, I saw that.09:37
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weedarjhutchins: ok, thanks :)09:38
jhutchinsweedar: I like avidemux for transcoding.  It has a lot of capability.09:38
crustythe reality is that im relatvly new on kubuntu09:38
elyon225Could someone recommend a good app to record my desktop to video?  I've tried istanbul, but it throws errors at me that I can't figure out.09:38
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jhutchinscrusty: If avidemux doesn't work, try cinelerra.09:38
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crustyim looking for it now09:39
surgydi3: thnx09:39
surgykewl no more useless errors for hardware i dont have :)09:39
crustyill let you know........thanks mait09:39
jhutchinsI have avidemux 2.2.0-0.preview2b.9.2 from PLF.09:39
khaije1jhutchins: o ok cool, i've got one more questions, i see both ia32 packages available for java 5 and 6 available. is there a compelling reason to go w/ one or the other?09:39
surgyis it ok to go ahead and update now? i mean is the bug fixed? i notice there are more updates now09:39
jhutchinskhaije1: I avoid java where possible.09:40
khaije1oic :-)09:40
jhutchinskhaije1: It depends on what you need to do.09:40
khaije1jhutchins: pretty much just web browsing09:40
surgyafter i develope a program how whould i go about getting it added to the repos?09:41
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di3surgy, concerning  your first problem. run "dmesg" and then "free" from konsole and pastebin the output, may be i will spot the problem finally :)09:47
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Agent_bob"if text from the monitor leeks out the corner and drips onto the keyboard,  do you put more or less sweetener in the tea ???"09:49
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AxlRosein Kubuntu...is there a way to sort icons....but restrict certain areas of the desktop09:49
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AxlRosebecause when I auto sort icons....they always go behind some one my superkaramba themese09:49
AxlRoseand it's really annoying09:50
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surgydi3: ok give me one se09:51
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goodthingwow, the servers are having are hard job09:52
goodthing*a09:52
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surgydi3: this is a REALLY long one09:53
surgyhttp://www.pastebin.ca/34797109:53
xenol!factoids09:53
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:53
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AlllexI was just wondering- is there any way I can run .cpp files from the Konsole?09:54
surgy!double09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about double - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
penguinbratHey guys - where can I go to get some info on helping out with documentation? Everything I've seen so far seems to be for development.09:54
surgy!Menajatwa09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about menajatwa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
surgyha ubotu you dont know everything!09:56
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AlllexDoes anyone know how I can run .cpp files from the Konsole?09:58
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Agent_bobpenguinbrat ask in #ubuntu+1  or #ubuntu maybe09:58
surgyalllex: try this: ./file.cpp09:58
AlllexThanks09:59
lupine_85hahahahahaha09:59
lupine_85no09:59
crustyjhtchins still there????] 09:59
lupine_85.cpp files need to be compiled...09:59
surgylol09:59
AlllexAh09:59
di3surgy: the log is clean, no error messages09:59
Agent_bobman cpp09:59
crustyjhutchins........still there09:59
surgylupine_85: was a good guess though :)09:59
surgydi3: then my os should be clean as silk right?09:59
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di3it seems so10:00
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surgydi3: maybe i should post a bug?10:00
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di3surgy: but what is this bug about? you can ask for more help on ubuntuforums.org10:02
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Agent_bobyeah what is the bug about ?10:02
di3surgy: maybe somebody faced this behaviour already10:02
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surgydi3: its kewl..... ill look at it if it gets worse10:03
di3surgy: also check your disk for bad sectors10:03
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surgydi3: right now i think im going to backup my entire disk ontu my backup disk and then encrypt it witha 150 digit pw and write the pw on my hdd with a marker :)10:04
di3surgy: and you can check the SMART status of the hard drive from ubuntu10:04
Agent_bobis it still the disapearing system files issue?   even with a new drive ?10:04
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di3thats funny :)10:04
surgydi3: so that im sure to have a near flawless install when this one breaks10:04
surgyagent_bob: nah no disapearing files, just slow load times on almost all my apps10:05
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mena!enconde10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about enconde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
mena!encode10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about encode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
mena!encodic10:06
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Agent_bob!mp310:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:06
menaWhat is the problem which cuase the problme of lanaguge in Xp  while making a new folder or any file on kubuntu in another lanaguge difrrent form english10:07
menaany idea10:07
jordo23I have a logitech Mic and am looking to configure it for TeamSpeak.....how do I find out the directory path to the mic /dev/?10:08
Agent_bobonly idea i have is, i have a hard time translating that...10:08
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menaAgent_bob, are taling to me10:09
Agent_bobah iso char encoding10:09
Agent_bobyes10:09
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menaAgent_bob, okay10:09
menaAgent_bob, no th eproblem10:09
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Agent_bobyes the iso charcitor encoding of the fs.10:09
menaAgent_bob, okay how to splve10:10
menasolve*10:10
Baracudahey Guys a simple question here .. how do I monitor the HDD free space in kubuntu ?10:10
Agent_bobhmmm that i don't know.   not after the fs is alteady made....10:10
Baracuda it's alright I'm still newbie and I know it's a silly question ;)10:10
menaAgent_bob, ok10:10
Agent_bobBaracuda df10:10
di3Baracuda: run "df -h" from konsole10:10
tsdgeosdf -h10:11
Agent_bobBaracuda also ksysguard10:11
Baracudathanks guys10:11
BaracudaAgent_Bob I'll try and see if I can install ksysguard10:11
Agent_bobmena maybe man mount could shed some light on that issue10:11
Agent_bobBaracuda it should be installed by default10:12
menaAgent_bob, okay i will see it10:12
Agent_bobin the menu kde system monitor10:12
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Baracuda Bad news :(  I used all the space available in the linux partition :(10:13
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Agent_bobmena in man mount   search for  iocharset=value10:13
Agent_bobBaracuda empty your trash ?10:14
menaAgent_bob, ok10:14
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Baracudathere is only 2 small files in the trash can ... no much help :(10:14
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Agent_bobBaracuda is your home and the system root on the same partition ?10:15
Baracuda Agent-bob  could I increase the partion in size ?10:15
Agent_bobyes that's what i was just working on.10:16
Baracudathat would be excellent10:16
Agent_bobis home a seperate partition ?10:16
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jordo23Is there a way to take video of your desktop....like a screenshot but video?10:16
Agent_boband how big is the root partition ?10:16
Baracuda Agent I only have one partion for linux and a small swap partion of course10:17
adaptrit's humongous !10:17
adaptrjordo23: there is one in the repo, search for it - or perhaps somebdy will remember the name...10:17
Baracuda5gb10:17
adaptrthat's on the small side, wouldn't you say ?10:18
BaracudaI should have allowed more .. but didn't think i'd like Kubuntu this much :)10:18
Agent_bobBaracuda ok you can then make some empty unallocated space on the drive and make a home partition then you simply migrate all your home stuff to that new partition and remount it on /home.10:18
Agent_bobit's very simple and safe10:18
Baracuda Agent what utility do I use to migrate to the new partion ?10:19
Agent_bobyou first make it then i'll help you migrate10:19
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Baracudado I have to log out and use the kubuntu start up disk to make the new partion ?10:20
Agent_bobno just run gparted or qtparted10:20
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Baracuda ok10:20
Baracudai'll try10:20
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vbhello all,10:21
Agent_bobif not installed you can use the live cd    you may not be able to install anything while you are in a low disk space condition.10:21
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vbi hv just created a hamachi vpn connection with my frnd using knoppix10:21
vbwe r trying to hv a  remote desktop connection10:21
vbi can ping him successfully10:21
adaptrAgent_bob: moving his /home while he's using it can be tricky... and it'll take at least one potentially dangerous reboot10:21
vbhow to go abt it ?10:22
Agent_bobadaptr wasn't going to move it per'se10:22
adaptrvb: t-r-y    t-o   u-s-e   a-l-l    t-h-e   l-e-t-t-e-r-s...10:22
adaptrvb: this is not a cellphone, and you're not metered by the character10:23
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vbapology10:23
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adaptrno need, that's good enough10:23
adaptr(a whole word)10:23
hattapeople do irc from cellphones these days10:23
adaptryes, they should be taken out and put to sleep10:23
Agent_bobcopy it then logout drop to console rm the old remount the new and login...   adaptr  unless you know an easier/safer/faster way ?10:23
adaptrAgent_bob: an easier one, certainly10:24
Agent_bobthen i'll watch.10:24
adaptrcreate /home partition, format it, mount it at /mnt/home (mkdir /mnt/home first), then drop out of X, as it locks files in /home, then cp -a /home /mnt/home10:25
Agent_bobthat's what i said.....10:26
adaptryou may want to chmod 755 /mnt/home first, as *that does not happen by default*10:26
adaptryou'll end up with a root-owned /home that you cannot access10:26
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Agent_bobyeah and last but not least own your home...10:26
adaptrthen edit fstab to add the new partition, and reboot10:26
adaptrown your home ?10:27
Agent_bobat least we agree on how that all works :)10:27
Agent_bobyes    sudo chown `whoami` $HOME -R10:27
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Agent_bobown your home ^  :)10:28
adaptrhe should *not* chmod anything inside /home, just mkdir /mnt/home, mount it, then chmod 755 /mnt/home, then copy the old one over10:28
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surgyowning your own home is a good start..... takes mortgages to get root though10:28
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adaptrbad, bad idea - he *already* owns it10:28
adaptrcp -a copies all permissions10:28
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Agent_bobnever a bad idea to own your home...10:28
adaptrbetter make it as short and painless as possible10:29
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adaptrso instead of copying over a /home that is by definition correct (he's using it now), you would introduce an action that may screw that up ?10:29
Agent_bobno i'm gona watch you.   you done violenteered10:29
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adaptrI think he's fled...10:30
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Agent_bobno he's just making a partition.10:31
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coreymon77wait a sec10:31
coreymon77guys10:31
coreymon77was the kernel dependency p[roblem fixed?10:31
Whopperhm?10:31
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Baracudacan someone tell  me if there is a partitioning application for kde ?10:32
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Baracuda I installed gparted but have no idea where to find it :)10:32
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Whopperqtparted10:33
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Agent_bobalt+f2 and type; kdesu gparted10:33
hatta`which gparted` at the console10:33
Baracudaqtparted will show up in kde right ?10:33
Whopperyes10:33
Agent_bobalt+f2 and type; kdesu gparted10:33
Baracuda ok Agent thanks10:33
MenaAgent_bob. sorry i just swicthed form XP plz give the command again10:34
Menafrom*10:34
coreymon77was the error fixed?10:34
Agent_bobman mount  ?10:34
Whopperhttp://qtparted.sourceforge.net/10:34
Menayes after that one10:34
Baracuda thanks whopper10:34
Whoppernp10:34
Agent_bobcoreymon77 i don't know.10:34
Agent_bobMena i sujested you search for iocharset=  in the man page10:35
Agent_bobuse / to search10:35
Menaok10:35
Agent_bobor ? to search in reverse10:35
Agent_bobMena i know that's not much help.   maybe someone else can give you a lot better answer10:36
Menaok no prob10:36
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BaracudaRight ..  I have a 16Gb ntfs partion I could use but i does contain data that I have to burn before deleting the ntfs partion and creating a linux ext3/.. partion10:38
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Agent_bobok.10:38
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BaracudaAgent what reliable burning prog should I use ?10:39
Baracuda it's just data I want to burn on dvd10:39
Mena!ipv610:39
lupine_85k3b10:39
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv410:39
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Whopperbaracuda: k3b is a very good app10:40
Agent_bobwell you may have trubble with any burner trying to make and iso file becaues of the full disk condition.  so what ever you use it will have to be 'on the fly'  so burn at a slower than max speed and disable the screen saver first.10:40
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Whopper!k3b10:41
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto10:41
Agent_boband be patient.    :)10:41
Agent_bobBaracuda and k3b is installed already ?10:42
Baracudathanks Agent10:42
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Baracudalet me check10:42
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acemowhere can i find the open source ati drivers?10:42
Baracudayes I do have k3b10:42
Baracudai'll use that then10:43
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Agent_bob!ati | acemo10:43
ubotuacemo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:43
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MenaWhat is the use of IPV6 ..any idea10:44
acemothats the fglrx drivers..10:44
Whopperit is designed to replace ipv410:45
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ScottKMena: Not much at the moment if you can get an IPv4 address, but give it a few years when the IPv4 address space runs out and it'll be different.10:45
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MenaScottk, okay10:46
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Agent_boblet me see... how to find files you don't own....   hmmm; find ./ ! -uid $UID   #that should do it?10:47
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AluminAgent_bob: sounds reasonable10:48
cromevenin'10:48
AluminI usually just do "." instead of "./" but it should work either way10:48
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Agent_bobAlumin i have had find puke on me for not following with /  so it's habbit now.10:49
Cuddles_in_KYafternoon all. anyone good at setting up printers?10:49
Alumininteresting10:49
Goliath23Cuddles_in_KY: whats the problem, cuddles?10:49
darkserver3gente... hi...10:49
darkserver3I,m doing a lab10:50
Cuddles_in_KYi'm having some major trouble printing to a networked printer. the -one- windows machine prints to it fine, but none of my linux systems can.10:50
adaptrcrystal meth, no doubt :)10:50
Whopperlol10:50
Cuddles_in_KYi try printing a test page, and it gets ''held'' as the status.10:50
Agent_bobCuddles_in_KY no. but i found that if you install dapper and all the updates one of the updates breaks the foomatic database and you can't install any printer.  you have to setup the printer before you install the updates...10:50
darkserver3i need a script that can mount a desktop enviroment on a telnet10:50
darkserver3conection10:50
Agent_bobuntil they fix that...10:51
adaptrdarkserver3: so write one, I presume that is teh homework ?10:51
Cuddles_in_KYagent_bob, it's set up, just won't print. and i'm on edgy.10:51
cromI'm having trouble emptying my 'trash'; actually the trash bin claims it's empty, but there is still 12+Gigs in ~/.local/share/Trash. Am I missing something obvious here?10:51
darkserver3nop10:51
Agent_boband i hope they do...10:51
adaptrdarkserver3: if that *is* homework, I would refuse - telnet is horribly insecure10:51
Agent_bobCuddles_in_KY ok so ignore me.  i was just sayin'10:51
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adaptrcrom: so rm -f it10:51
darkserver3well... it's for or computer lab...10:51
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darkserver3our computer lab...10:52
Goliath23Cuddles_in_KY: are you familiar with the command line?10:52
cromadaptr: oh yeah. I keep forgetting that one! (oops)10:52
Cuddles_in_KYgoliath, marginally.10:52
Goliath23maybe you can find more information on what went wrong in the cups logs or so?10:52
Goliath23in /var/log/ i guess10:52
adaptrstart by actually configuring cups...10:52
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darkserver3you knoe...10:53
Goliath23I guess message beeing held can have a dozen causes10:53
Cuddles_in_KYgoliath23, E [09/Feb/2007:16:51:53 -0500]  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!10:53
Whopperbbl10:53
Agent_bobbut if you do that and then move things to the trash.  don't expect to get them back. they are gondi' man10:53
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nodesertcould  i set dchp configuration on knoppix or usingf console10:54
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Cuddles_in_KYgoliath23, also, 2 new lines. E [09/Feb/2007:16:54:20 -0500]  PID 18564 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/192.168.0.5) stopped with status 22! -and- E [09/Feb/2007:16:54:22 -0500]  PID 18563 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 9!10:55
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Agent_bobnodesert why yes...10:55
cromsalute, adaptr ! *tips hat*10:55
darkserver3ummm I gonna explain you...10:55
Goliath23Cuddles_in_KY: hm, maybe you retry to print the testpage to see what messages actually belong to the printout?10:56
darkserver3I need to show my server desktop on telnet10:56
Agent_bobplease explain me...10:56
adaptrdarkserver3: using aalib ?10:56
darkserver3aalib???10:56
adaptr!aalib10:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aalib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:56
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adaptrhe's getting dumber by the day...10:56
ereminiihi10:57
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adaptrho10:57
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ereminiiare any devs here, wanted to report a small  bug :)10:57
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Cuddles_in_KYgoliath23, those last 2 lines are what i get when i try printing a test page. status 22, and status 9.10:57
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Agent_bob!bug | ereminii10:57
ubotuereminii: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots10:57
ereminiiwell yeah :)10:57
ereminiithought it would be quicker this way i guess i'll do that10:57
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Goliath23Cuddles_in_KY: in the kde printer setting, cann you select hplip as backend instead of cups? maybe that works better for that printer?11:00
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darkserver3how can I take my server enviroment, and show then in s console???11:01
Cuddles_in_KYgoliath23, just got it to accept the test page, but it's printing badly. 8 pages, first page has ''<</ManualFeed false>>setpagedevice'' at the top of it, whole pages 2 - 8 are blank.11:02
Goliath23hm, looks like the driver is not the correct one for your printer11:03
Goliath23what printer is it?11:03
Cuddles_in_KYhp laserjet 4 plus11:04
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Agent_bobdarkserver3 what are you wanting to see ?11:04
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Cuddles_in_KYgoliath23, nevermind. got it.11:05
Cuddles_in_KYfoomatic+hpijs driver instead of cups driver11:05
Goliath23okay, cool11:06
Cuddles_in_KYgoliath23, thanks for the nudge in the right direction.11:06
Agent_bobis  /etc/apt/secring.gpg  supposed to be empty ?11:06
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MenaHow to make programes with exe extention working good after installing wine11:09
Menado i need any another plugin or something else11:09
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Agent_bobheh is clamav known to be broke in dapper ?11:12
Agent_bobfreshclam11:12
Agent_bobERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).11:12
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Agent_bob!wine11:12
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:12
Menaok11:12
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ritchieeHey guys, I recently upgraded from kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) to Edgy.  Basically changed /etc/apt/sources.list and ran apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade.  I then rebooted, and when it boots back up and gets to where the login manager is usually, its a blank black screen.  So I ctrl-alt-f1 out of that to a console and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, reconfigure it.  Run startx and it works fine, so I reboot again, and the same thing ha11:14
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intelikeytty24 [root@~]  freshclam11:15
intelikeyERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).11:15
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intelikeyi've chmoded it, i've rm'd it, touched it, fuesr -k 'd it....  it's not a perms issue.11:16
ritchieepaste the out put of stat /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log to a pastebin11:17
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intelikeyhttp://pastebin.ca/34808811:18
ritchieeintelikey, what user does freshclam run as?11:19
intelikeyroot11:19
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inteliwaspi compiled a new program last night, but the exe is not in my path, how do i put a link in my kicker?11:20
ritchieeshouldn't freshclam run as its own non-priviliged users?11:20
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intelikeytty24 [root@~]  freshclam11:20
intelikeyERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).11:20
intelikeywill that stop this error ?11:20
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ritchieepossibly11:21
ritchieeim not sure11:21
ritchieecheck google/freshclam docs11:21
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intelikeylooks like it installs with wrong permissions on /var/lib/clamav & /var/log/clamav11:25
intelikeythat's pretty stuppid imo.  making an app that CAN'T run for root....11:25
crazy_penguinGood night!11:25
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inteliwaspfor some readon, xmms will not play anything anymore...11:27
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blue|palmwhat is regarded as the best multimedia linux distro?11:28
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intelikey-u USER, --user USER     Run  as  USER. By default (when started by root) freshclam drops privileges and works as the 'clamav' user.  <<< that explains it. you can't su unless you are root here.11:29
intelikeyblue|palm in here it's kubuntu in #debian it's debian  in #gentoo it's gentoo in #fedora it's fedora .... get the idea..11:30
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blue|palmlol11:30
blue|palmok11:30
blue|palmso there is no 'general opinion'?11:30
intelikeybet ya my dogma can beet your dogma in a dogma fight...  :)11:30
intelikeyno not really11:31
blue|palmoh11:31
intelikeyand best is all based on openion11:31
intelikeyand no two of them match exactly.11:31
blue|palmi would have thought somebody would have come up with a multimedia orientated linux by now11:31
jottit starts on how to define "multimedia" ;)11:31
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intelikeyit's like asking what's the best text editor11:32
blue|palmok... define it as full movie playing support (better than the opensource apps on windows can provide), and of course games11:32
blue|palmwe need a linux game-dev community :)11:32
blue|palma proper one11:32
intelikeydepends on what you intend to do with it and also on whom you ask.11:32
intelikeybuild it.11:33
blue|palmso what would you 2 reccomend?11:33
intelikeyi'd recommend you get a dvd player and hook it to your telli11:33
blue|palmlol11:33
blue|palmI have one of those11:33
intelikey:)11:33
Aluminblue|palm: http://www.monolithmc.com/11:34
intelikeywell there ya go then11:34
Aluminyou want a serious Linux-based multimedia machine, that's what you want11:34
Skrot-MythTV is (imho) only good if you've got a tv-card though11:34
Aluminthat or check out the Ardour project, get their kernel config file and use it to build a multimedia-centered low latency kernel11:35
intelikeyuntil tomarrow and someone beets that with this....11:35
jottlet's start a freevo vs. mythtv vs. vdr flamewar :p11:35
blue|palmfirst tell me what freevo is? like mythtv?11:35
Skrot-yes11:35
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AluminSkrot-: I think MythTV (and its competitors) definitely have a place as a set-top box, whether you have TV or not11:36
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Aluminit's nice to be able to use your media collection without having to interact with a computer per se11:36
Aluminparticularly when your house is being used as a social setting :P11:36
Skrot-They're both primarly DVR's (watching and recording TV) and HTPC's (watching and organizing backup movies, playing music, etc) secondly11:36
Aluminyou can hand your drunk guests a remote and they can figure it out, I sure don't want to get those people to type an mplayer command line :P11:37
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blue|palmI have one problem with multimedia on linux though... is it possible to get an equivalent to ffdshow (opensource hardware accellerated filters on windows) on linux (or something thats even better). Does it exist?11:37
Skrot-Alumin: That's true. But once you're used to the niceness of XBMC (no DVR what so ever) it doesn't look so good :p11:38
AluminXBMC eh...haven't heard of that one11:38
Skrot-Xbox Media Center?11:38
Skrot-(not made by MS)11:38
Skrot-It's a homebrew software for the old xbox11:38
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Aluminoh11:38
blue|palmffdshow takes poor quality files and boosts their quality hugely, do we have an alternative on linux?11:38
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Aluminwell, if I ever poke myself in the eye and get an Xbox, I guess I'll check it out11:39
jottit's like playing james bond 007 on the xbox and get a media center for free :p11:39
Skrot-blue|palm: Not sure about the filters.. but ffdshow uses parts of libavcodec which ffmpeg/mplayer also uses11:39
Skrot-Alumin: It's the only reason to own a xbox :P11:39
Aluminheh11:39
blue|palmSkrot: yeah i know... ive been looking into it. But I cant find filters as good as ffdshow on linux :(11:39
Skrot-didn't know the filters where that good :)11:40
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blue|palmSkrot: Neither did I till I got a monitor with a resolution of 1940x122011:40
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Skrot-But I've got windows running with ffdshow on a 77" inch 720p projector now.. maybe I'll check it out ;)11:41
blue|palmhehe11:41
blue|palmyou have to fiddle a bit though11:41
Skrot-okay :)11:41
Skrot-How bad does the source have to be to get a noticable boost in quality?11:41
blue|palmonce you have it right its awesome11:42
blue|palmSkrot: Do you watch anime by any chance? :) or series on your computer?11:42
Skrot-Let's take it at #ubuntu-offtopic :)11:43
blue|palmhehe11:43
blue|palmok11:43
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pitukahi, does anyone have a clue what to do when Amarok just wants to start as root??!11:55
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nagyvyou try to start it from the K-menu?11:57
pitukayes.11:57
pitukabut also from console11:57
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nagyvyou mean, even if you just write amarok at the console, it asks for you root password?11:57
darkserver3sayonara, gente...!!!11:58
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darkserver3oyasumi na sae!!!11:58
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nagyv!jp11:58
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 11:58
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pitukano, it writes a thousand lines of  messages and ends without a running application11:58
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nagyvcould you paste those messages at pastebin?11:58
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pitukaok what pastebin do you prefer?11:59
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nagyvhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:59
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|Daisuke_Ido|did you install amarok from the normal repository, or the 1.4.4 release repository, or did you roll your own?12:00
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pituka_nagyv: sorry i was disconnected somehow12:03
pituka_did you get the url?12:03
surgyyes i did actually12:04
pituka_i have no idea why it somehow stops working12:05
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pituka_i guess it has something to do with rights - because i can start amarok as root12:06
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nagyvpituka_: no12:06
pituka_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4952/12:06
nagyvpituka_: sorry, I won't be able to help you out, but I would try it at #kde too12:08
pituka_ok thank you very much for having the look12:09
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surgyis there a gui version of top?12:10
surgyclosest thing i see is ksysguard...... i guess im wanting to see percentages of my physicle memory used12:11
goodthingsurgy: maybe you like atop better?12:11
JohnFluxsurgy: ksysinfo12:12
surgyCommand 'ksysinfo' not found.12:13
animimotushello12:13
JohnFluxsurgy: hmm yeah I've forgotten what it's called heh!12:13
surgylol np12:13
animimotussomeone can answers me why I have that :12:14
animimotus$ dnsdomainname12:14
animimotus168.1.212:14
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surgysoo i forgot this is a no ell oh ell room :)12:14
animimotusthis ip is not valide and not the same than: ifconfig eth112:14
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specialbuddyso are kde and gnome working on a windows manager together12:15
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JohnFluxsurgy: gnome system monitor has one :-)12:15
JohnFluxspecialbuddy: no12:16
JohnFluxspecialbuddy: there's no need to12:16
JohnFluxspecialbuddy: you can use the gnome windows manager in kde12:16
JohnFluxor vice versa12:16

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