[12:16] <fribuntu> slyfox: video:vesa=off vga=normal
[12:17] <jmichaelx> could anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.)
[12:17] <slyfox> fribuntu: where is it done again? in my /boot/grub/menu.lst    there is no vesa
[12:17] <fribuntu> slyfox: just add it
[12:17] <fribuntu> slyfox: in the same line where the "vga" is
[12:18] <slyfox> fribuntu: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash video:vesa=off vga=normal             ?
[12:18] <fribuntu> slyfox: yep
[12:18] <slyfox> rebooting
[12:18] <fribuntu> good luck
[12:18] <Minataku> xenol: Give me .0
[12:18] <Minataku> I don't see anything in that one
[12:19] <xenol> Minataku: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4774/
[12:20] <Minataku> xenol: Crap... I don't see anything there
[12:20] <Minataku> Sorry, I have to go eat
[12:20] <xenol> np
[12:20] <jmichaelx> could anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/
[12:20] <parkerw207> help guys
[12:20] <Minataku> Good luck, xenol
[12:20] <xenol> well if i turn pc off with button can it dmg sumthing?
[12:20] <parkerw207> says it cannot burn my cd :(
[12:20] <xenol> ty Minataku
[12:21] <parkerw207> says cdrecord has no permission to open the device
[12:21] <jmichaelx> parkerw207: use k3b instead, and run it as root
[12:21] <parkerw207> how do i run it as root ?
[12:22] <jmichaelx> 'sudo k3b'
[12:22] <spitwise> would sudo chmod 777 /usr/bin/k3b of sorts work to give permissions?
[12:22] <jmichaelx> yeah, i think it would
[12:22] <spitwise> then user can could run it
[12:23] <parkerw207> now its borning
[12:23] <parkerw207> or burning*
[12:23] <parkerw207> or doing something lol
[12:23] <lupine_85> spitwise: no, it wouldn't
[12:24] <lupine_85> that'd be a baaaad idea
[12:24] <lupine_85> the user probably needs adding to the cdrom or media group (see what group /dev/cdrom or other appropriate device file is in)
[12:24] <slyfox> fribuntu: nothing, smae problem
[12:24] <lupine_85> making /anything/ xx7 is a bad idea...
[12:25] <roman2006> hi
[12:25] <coreymon77> guys
[12:25] <coreymon77> i have 3 packages that have been held back for some reason
[12:25] <coreymon77> why is that?
[12:26] <slyfox> coreymon77: details
[12:26] <coreymon77> linux-headers-generic linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:27] <coreymon77> those are the packages
[12:27] <tazz> when i type 'sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin' it says "bash: ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin: Permission denied"
[12:27] <coreymon77> i type sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:27] <coreymon77> and it says the following packages have been held back
[12:27] <tazz> what am i doing wrong?
[12:27] <coreymon77> linux-headers-generic linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:27] <slyfox> coreymon77: do sudo-apt get update first
[12:27] <jmichaelx> could anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and democracyplayer crash my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/
[12:27] <slyfox> coreymon77: the do sudo-apt get autoremove
[12:27] <fribuntu> slyfox: well, I am out of options then. Sorry.
[12:28] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: i am having the same problem
[12:28] <tazz> coreymon77: try apt-get clean
[12:28] <jmichaelx> ahh
[12:28] <fribuntu> slyfox: You can try to start some other live distro like knoppix and see if you can switch there.
[12:28] <jott> slyfox: slyfox try to install vbetool then do "sudo vbetool vbemode get" and use the value returned as vga=nnn
[12:28] <slyfox> fribuntu: so is everyone else I spoke with. Man at least in the Windows world everything was known.. here it is a dark night
[12:28] <fribuntu> slyfox: and then you can find out what makes knoppix different from your config.
[12:28] <coreymon77> no use
[12:28] <slyfox> fribuntu: My Konsole did work before fine in Kubuntu
[12:28] <cpk1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 regarding the update issue!
[12:29] <fribuntu> slyfox: so what have you changed when it did stop working?
[12:29] <fribuntu> slyfox: you must have done something. Consoles do not magically turn of or something.
[12:29] <coreymon77> tazz: didnt work
[12:29] <slyfox> fribuntu: that is the million dollar question.  I suspect it maybe was Beryl and nvidia 9xxx series
[12:30] <coreymon77> tazz: same thing happened
[12:30] <slyfox> fribuntu: console does work fine in X session
[12:30] <jott> fribuntu: well i had quite the same issue with the nvidia driver .. but setting the vga=... helped for me at least..
[12:30] <fribuntu> slyfox: Oh and by the way, you are free to uninstall any Linux and reinstall Windows, if you like. But telling us that a windows console mode is working better than linux is kind of funny.
[12:30] <coreymon77> slyfox: your suggestions didnt help
[12:30] <jott> and not all vesa modes worked for me...
[12:31] <underdog5004> whoa...I missed that one!
[12:31] <underdog5004> lol
[12:31] <jott> slyfox: maybe give the vbetool a try..but i can't promise anything ;)
[12:31] <slyfox> fribuntu: nah, I am not talking about console, I am talking in general, it would be known by now what causes this problem, here no one has a clue after a few suggestions do not work
[12:31] <underdog5004> no way is command prompt better than bash/konsole/etc...
[12:31] <genii> underdog5004: Heya
[12:31] <slyfox> coreymon77: don't know ask someone else, I am jsut a noob to be honest
[12:31] <fribuntu> slyfox: I have never touched beryl, compiz and all that 3D stuff.
[12:31] <slyfox> fribuntu: yeah, good choice
[12:31] <slyfox> jott: let me see
[12:31] <fribuntu> slyfox: Well, be my guest. Uninstall Linux, reinstall Windows. Be a happy bunny.
[12:32] <coreymon77> dumb bunny too
[12:32] <fribuntu> slyfox: Linux is not obligatory.
[12:32] <slyfox> fribuntu: no I am not going back to WIndows
[12:32] <fribuntu> slyfox: You can also pay someone to install it for you so it works.
[12:32] <underdog5004> hey genii long time no see...
[12:32] <slyfox> jott: sudo vbetool vbemode get  you sure? I get this - 32771
[12:32] <sorush20> anyone here know how to fix the blue rotating box problem with fgl_glxgears
[12:32] <fribuntu> slyfox: Or you could pack up your stuff and visit one of your local Linux user groups.
[12:32] <fribuntu> slyfox: It is hard to do suport via IRC or mail only.
[12:33] <fribuntu> slyfox: when the problem gets more complex.
[12:33] <slyfox> fribuntu: I think I just will reinstall
[12:33] <slyfox> Kubutnu completely
[12:33] <jmichaelx> slyfox: i may be reinstalling , too:(
[12:33] <fribuntu> slyfox: oh well, you should know that procedure from your windows days :)
[12:33] <sorush20> http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7507/pantallazopbufferglxgears6tk.png
[12:33] <slyfox> jmichaelx: why you ?
[12:33] <jott> slyfox: oh i see this seems to be the mode currently on the console not on X..hmmm... :/
[12:33] <elyon> Could someone tell me why Adept is telling me to upgrade the linux kernel headers, but when I try to, it will break dependencies?
[12:34] <cpk1> elyon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[12:34] <jmichaelx> sounds dumb, but i cannot sort out this problem with playing videos
[12:34] <underdog5004> slyfox, yeah, it's pretty easy, esp. if you've got a seperate /home partition
[12:34] <fribuntu> slyfox: While I am sure it is not necessary, since there is this nice "purge" option for package removal, it might be the fastest solution for you.
[12:34] <jott> slyfox: i can really imagine its a vesa issue :p mind to try the vga=838 I use?! ;-)
[12:34] <slyfox> fribuntu: I will purge Kubuntu, since I have no idea what else to purge besides Beryl
[12:34] <slyfox> jott: ok, I will be back in 15 minutes and will talk.
[12:35] <slyfox> underdog5004: I dont, I will get one now though thsi tie around
[12:35] <slyfox> OK. Brb in 15 min.
[12:35] <fribuntu> jott: I do not think it is a vesa issue, because the issue prevails even when vesa is disabled.
[12:35] <underdog5004> slyfox, yeah, it kicks ass...
[12:36] <jott> fribuntu: i had the very same problem and setting to textmode did not help..
[12:36] <elyon> cpk1: That helps.  Thank you :)
[12:36] <elyon> ...thought I was doing something wrong
[12:36] <fribuntu> jott: but disabling vesa rules out vesa as the troublemaker. If it indeed gets disabled that is.
[12:36] <jott> fribuntu: actually the textmode he uses is vesa mode 32771 ;)
[12:36] <cpk1> elyon: looks like we all just need some patience till the package maintainers get it worked out
[12:37] <underdog5004> yeah, in the mean time, I am _not_ gonna restart my computer...lol
[12:37] <elyon> cpk1: I can handle that... just was worried I messed something up.  But if it's happening to everyone, I'm okay with that ;)
[12:38] <fribuntu> jott: video:vesa=off should disable it.
[12:38] <fribuntu> jott: and that's what he did.
[12:38] <Legolas_Faol> I'm a newbie, how can I install Java on my kubuntu?
[12:39] <Legolas_Faol> when apt-get install sun-java5 doesn't work
[12:39] <jott> fribuntu: http://pastebin.ca/345967 ;-)
[12:39] <Legolas_Faol> when i run apt-get install sun-java5 doesn't work
[12:39] <jott> (see the funny x/y resolution ;-)
[12:39] <cpk1> Legolas_Faol: do you have the correct repository enabled?
[12:40] <Legolas_Faol> yes, all 4 repositories
[12:40] <Legolas_Faol> but
[12:40] <Legolas_Faol> when it's fast installed he asks me to press "OK" but i can't press it
[12:41] <sorush20> I have just install a new install of kubuntu and I want to backup this stage of my root partition on a new partition so that I can always just recover if anything goes wrong is there a way?
[12:41] <flaccid> Legolas_Faol: why does it not work?
[12:41] <fribuntu> jott: Was soll mir das sagen?
[12:41] <tish> perdon los  canales espaoles?
[12:41] <Legolas_Faol> flaccid:  when it's fast installed it asks me to press "OK" but i can't press it
[12:41] <flaccid> Legolas_Faol: what are you using to install it?
[12:42] <tish> gracias
[12:42] <tish> xD
[12:42] <Legolas_Faol> both apt-get and adept
[12:42] <cpk1> Legolas_Faol: sudo apt-get install libqt-perl and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf and then choose kde and then pick high
[12:42] <julio> yo hablo espanol
[12:42] <tish> perdon  para alluda a un espaol?
[12:42] <cpk1> !es | tish
[12:42] <ubotu> tish: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:42] <underdog5004> !es
[12:42] <one> PLZ help how could i switch this off ? Last login: Fri Feb  9 00:30:47 2007 from my IP on ssh on remote server ?
[12:42] <jott> fribuntu: that 32771 (so 80x25 textmode) seems to be handled as a "vesa mode" by the nvidia chip set and I suppose there is a bug in the nvidia driver that causes trouble switching to X and to some vesa modes with some chipset combinations or what ever it causes
[12:43] <flaccid> one: why would you wnt to?
[12:43] <cpk1> Legolas_Faol: after you do that do sudo apt-get -f install
[12:43] <one> flaccid its a remote server and i dont want to save my login ip
[12:43] <cpk1> Legolas_Faol: the wiki explains all this... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:43] <user__> can someone help me setup my sata drives?
[12:44] <flaccid> one: why?
[12:44] <user__> please?
[12:44] <fribuntu> jott: well, he claims it worked fine before twiddling with 3D crap. So I have my doubts it is a bug. Maybe a misconfiguration.
[12:44] <one>  <one> flaccid its a remote server and i dont want to save my login ip
[12:45] <flaccid> why do you not want to save your last login IP ?
[12:45] <user__> does anyone here know how to setup sata drives?
[12:45] <jott> fribuntu: possibly.. but i had the same problem until i found a vesa mode that worked... so it's not a unique problem description...
[12:45] <cpk1> he haxxored them gibson?
[12:45] <cpk1> and now plague is chasing after him?
[12:45] <jott> fribuntu: or not call it vesa mode but video mode (including text mode)
[12:45] <one> flaccid it is a server in a computer centre and i dont wanna that they could see my logins from which ip
[12:46] <fribuntu> jott: Whatever :)
[12:46] <one> flaccid sure they an sniff them but i dont wanna it saved on the server ;-(
[12:46] <flaccid> then don't give them root to your server
[12:46] <fribuntu> jott: It is so frustrating when ppl come up with that silly "Windows works" poo
[12:47] <fribuntu> jott: It makes my good will shrivel up :)
[12:47] <one> flaccid but there is the option remote serial console and i think they have their backdoor to look on the files/scripts
[12:47] <jott> fribuntu: hehe well i have see a couple of nvidia related bluescreens ;) ...
[12:47] <one> flaccid plz just tell my how to turn it off *G*
[12:47] <flaccid> i don't know how to
[12:47] <champion> how do people normally use linux print servers off linux over a network in a secure fashion?
[12:47] <champion> how does authentication work
[12:48] <flaccid> one: wouldn't you want it on so you can track when they login and do stuff? or would you just let them do whatever...
[12:48] <flaccid> champion: usually with samba printer share
[12:48] <champion> flaccid: but passwords are passed around in the cleartext format
[12:48] <sleepy745> where is thunderbird located in the menu?
[12:48] <fribuntu> jott: I buy NVidia hardware, because it has rather good Linux support, although it is closed source. I could never get ATI drivers running.
[12:48] <champion> flaccid: that's platform independent stupidity
[12:48] <one> flaccid no i enabled firewall only 3ports open and the ssh port is not 22 and very good pw
[12:48] <jott> fribuntu: the claim "windows works" is just wrong...
[12:48] <flaccid> champion: not if you configure samba to use encrypted passwords
[12:49] <fribuntu> jott: I'd go Intel, but I like to play the ocasional 3D game ...
[12:49] <champion> flaccid: okay, how about linux to windows then?
[12:49] <flaccid> champion: you don't know what you are talking about.
[12:49] <flaccid> yes samba is an smb server for *nix
[12:49] <champion> yes i know that
[12:49] <jott> fribuntu: i do 3d development and gpu stuff so i need a good gpu too ;-)
[12:49] <flaccid> you can also do whatever authentication and encryption you want...
[12:49] <one> flaccid so how i switch it of ?
[12:49] <fribuntu> jott: of course it is wrong. In the end of the day, no system "just works". It needs skillful configuration and then users that don't act like total morons.
[12:49] <flaccid> kerberos, tdb, sam etc.
[12:50] <champion> flaccid: how does samba pass credentials through winbind to cups then?
[12:50] <flaccid> one: [10:51]  <flaccid> i don't know how to
[12:50] <one> flaccid lol ;-P
[12:50] <flaccid> i don't use windbind. go learn samba: http://samba.org
[12:50] <user__> can somone please help me mount my sata drives?
[12:50] <champion> flaccid: it's winbind
[12:51] <jott> fribuntu: yes .. especially when people mess around without knowing what they are doing .. then everything brakes and they complain :p
[12:51] <samiam010203> user_why wont your drives mount
[12:51] <cpk1> user__: it would be sudo mount /dev/s*# /media/somefolder
[12:51] <flaccid> champion: like i said you get can do it many ways. you don't need to use winbind...
[12:51] <coreymon77> huys
[12:51] <cpk1> or i guess /dev/sd*
[12:51] <coreymon77> one thing
[12:51] <flaccid> you can configure samba server to use it if you want to
[12:51] <jott> fribuntu: and linux invites to mess around ;)
[12:51] <coreymon77> if you did install the working parts of the kernel updates
[12:51] <jmichaelx> could anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and democracyplayer crash my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/
[12:51] <fribuntu> jott: It is build for tinkering :)
[12:51] <coreymon77> because you didnt know about the broken ones
[12:51] <fribuntu> jott: But I do that on a second non-productive system.
[12:52] <coreymon77> is it okay to restart your computer
[12:52] <coreymon77> or can i not do that until the problem is fixed
[12:52] <champion> flaccid: google came up with this post on the ubuntu forums, but it's not answered, so i don't know: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353654
[12:52] <sleepy745> !thunderbird
[12:52] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[12:52] <flaccid> champion: there is samba.org and #samba. start learning.
[12:53] <user__> thanks cpk, but what is the list command again?
[12:53] <champion> flaccid: what do you mean by learning? that's useless advice
[12:53] <user__> sry its been awhile since ive been on linux
[12:53] <cpk1> coreymon77: does  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 say anything about it?
[12:53] <flaccid> champion: i'm not going to give you a solution. you read the documentation. thus you will learn how to configure samba.
[12:53] <champion> flaccid: i clearly understand it, but from what i have gathered ubuntu linux and cups and samba don't play nice with windows
[12:53] <fribuntu> jott: You do not by any chance have a CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller audio device?
[12:53] <jott> fribuntu: yep it fine to mess around but it's somewhat unreflected to complain when something breakes afterwards..imho.. :)
[12:54] <champion> flaccid: if you don't *know* how to, that's fine, but pretending like you do and telling me to "RTFM" doesn't help
[12:54] <fribuntu> jott: and then use that for recording and tell me what settings I need to tweak to get a nasty beep cleared out when trying to record via mic?
[12:54] <flaccid> champion: they do if you configure them correctly. i have it set up at home and work mixed environment no problem
[12:54] <jott> fribuntu: do you use kmix for mixing?
[12:54] <fribuntu> jott: I have tried both, kmix and alsamixer.
[12:54] <flaccid> champion: i pointed you to the resources. i don't have time to spoon feed you.
[12:55] <champion> flaccid: do you passwords in cleartext? how do you authenticate? helping me out with specifics follows, but it's easier to transition by starting at a higher level of concepts
[12:55] <user__> cpk1?
[12:55] <elyon> Is it possible to remove the Konqueror web browser without removing the file browser?
[12:55] <jott> fribuntu: ok.. because kmix is somewhat broken and the patch i proposed was more or less ignored :p
[12:55] <fribuntu> jott: It is not a general problem. When I skype for example, my voice is crystal clear.
[12:55] <champion> flaccid: yeah, it's like saying: here's the internet go figure it out. it's not helpful. if it was, i would have figured it out already.
[12:55] <flaccid> champion: read the howtos on samba.org. they detail all this.
[12:55] <flaccid> champion: don't be lazy.
[12:55] <julio> en que te puedosomebody can help me?
[12:55] <champion> flaccid: not how to get cups to work with samba without sending smb://user:pass@server/printer type format
[12:55] <cpk1> user__: have you tried mounting your sata drives at *all*?
[12:55] <jott> fribuntu: so maybe you need a fixed sampling rate?
[12:56] <fribuntu> jott: tried that.
[12:56] <flaccid> champion: its there.
[12:56] <user__> lol, nooooo i havent.  ive mounted b4, but that was a long time ago, and they were ide
[12:56] <flaccid> and using smb:// is platform dependent
[12:56] <champion> flaccid: printing doesn't seem to be supported, if you can prove me otherwise, i'll gladly read it
[12:56] <champion> flaccid: yes so what does that have to do with anything?
[12:56] <flaccid> !cups
[12:56] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:56] <flaccid> there you go
[12:56] <flaccid> proved otherwise...
[12:57] <jott> fribuntu: have you tried something like cat /dev/audio > bla.raw and pipe it back into the dsp?
[12:57] <champion> flaccid: the issue is getting winbind credentials to work with cups
[12:57] <fribuntu> jott: I did a frequency analysis and I can say the beep is in the lower kHz range (1.3 - 5.5) and rather annoying.
[12:57] <jott> (like the low level approach ;)
[12:57] <user__> i just got this new pc, and getting it all up and ready, but i need to get them mounted so i can test them if i have to return the droves by tomorrow
[12:57] <flaccid> conversation over. go read the resources i pointed you to.
[12:57] <cpk1> user__: ok so you sata drives will be /dev/sd* (sda sdb sdc and etc) to mount one you would have to have made a directory somewhere where you want to mount it and then do sudo mount /dev/sd* /some/dir/i/made
[12:57] <champion> flaccid: i know what cups is, i've read all the pertinent documentation. if you claim to have a setup in which passwords aren't sent in cleartext, please tell me, but telling me to read cups.org or samba.org is not helpful
[12:57] <fribuntu> jott: I can record ok, it is just distorted and has that beep. Quite annoying.
[12:58] <flaccid> champion: too bad.
[12:58] <jott> fribuntu: hmm.. really strange ..have you checked the alsa wiki?
[12:58] <jott> there are alot of options you can tweak in the alsa.conf
[12:58] <jott> (like buffer settings etc etc)
[12:59] <user__> crappppppppp.... i totally forget how to do that.  is there a read thru somewhere?
[12:59] <user__> man... its been too long
[12:59] <getafix> can anyone tell me why adept updater is telling me the package database is being used by another programme when there is nothing else open?
[12:59] <jott> alsa has quite a bad documentation... :/
[12:59] <cpk1> user__: i just told you how...
[12:59] <user__> i cant even rember the list command, something like -l or something
[01:00] <user__> lol, yah, but i need to knoe the drive names, whats thie list command again?
[01:00] <one> which is the best/easiest irc deamon for linux with ssl supporT ?
[01:00] <fribuntu> jott: I did check there and tweaked the settings a bit. But the problem remains. I asekd here on the #alsa channel, but I did not even get an answer to my "Hi", let alone to my question.
[01:00] <user__> -ls?
[01:01] <getafix> is there anyway I can tell what app or process is using the packaging system database?
[01:01] <jott> fribuntu: yep there are not many supportive ppl in #alsa ..i guess no core devs and such..
[01:01] <zblach> quick question. i have an embedded ricoh camera that doesn't seem to be supported by v4l. what can I do about it?
[01:01] <user__> sry cpk1, thank you for the patience though, ill refer to those commands, but what is the list command?
[01:01] <fribuntu> jott: And I am too impatient for email or newsgroup support :)
[01:01] <coreymon77> guys
[01:01] <coreymon77> this is urgent
[01:02] <coreymon77> how do i roll bacjk
[01:02] <coreymon77> to the working drivers
[01:02] <cpk1> user__: try sudo lshw to find out the logical names of your sata drives
[01:02] <fribuntu> coreymon77: What do you mean?
[01:02] <jott> fribuntu: and you are sure that it's not some kind of mechanical/physical problem? like feedback/electro static fields?
[01:02] <fribuntu> coreymon77: Please elaborate.
[01:02] <coreymon77> okay
[01:03] <jott> (as skype may filter some frequency bands)
[01:03] <fribuntu> jott: As I said, skype is working like a charm, when I call the audio test.
[01:03] <coreymon77> i ran apt-get upgrade
[01:03] <coreymon77> and unknowingly did the partial upgrade of the kernel files
[01:03] <coreymon77> now i have three kernel files unmet
[01:03] <coreymon77> if i restart now
[01:03] <user__> sweet, that worked
[01:03] <coreymon77> it will lock up my system
[01:04] <fribuntu> jott: I can do that: Try to record ... *pop* *snap* *crackle* *beeeeep* ... run skype ... crystal clear ... try to record again ... *pop* *hisss* *beeeep*
[01:04] <coreymon77> how do i rollback to the previus images
[01:04] <underdog5004> coreymon77, it's a common issue right now
[01:04] <coreymon77> underdog5004: how do i roll back
[01:04] <underdog5004> no idea...gimme 30 minutes and I can tell you though....
[01:05] <flaccid> imo kubuntu is a mess (atm)
[01:05] <fribuntu> coreymon77: Ok, problem understood. However, I have no idea how to "role back". How about uninstalling them and then reinstalling the proper versions?
[01:05] <jmichaelx> could anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and democracyplayer crash my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/
[01:05] <fribuntu> flaccid: I don't think so. Why should it be?
[01:05] <underdog5004> coreymon77, ok, read this. I know it's not totally the answer, but it can help you:  http://www.howtoforge.org/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[01:05] <flaccid> fribuntu: i never said it should be
[01:06] <jott> fribuntu: hmm.. really strange.. you may compare amixer output before and while running skype?! ;)
[01:06] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, were you playing stuff over a network?
[01:06] <jott> fribuntu: on the other hand skype may not be the best full dynamics test ;)
[01:06] <fribuntu> jott: No changes. But as I said, I don't think skype is using alsa at all.
[01:06] <user__> cpk1 it didnt work
[01:07] <fribuntu> jott: If I could get the skype sound quality out of a local recording, I'd be more than happy.
[01:07] <user__> how do i make the directory to mount it to???
[01:07] <jmichaelx> underdog5004: no, but i played a file that was somehow corrupt
[01:07] <jott> fribuntu: have you tried dumping /dev/audio to a file and then pipe it back to /dev/dsp ?
[01:07] <fribuntu> jott: And by the way, simply playing sound is no problem and quite clear as well.
[01:07] <julio> somebody can helpme i can not conect wireless
[01:07] <fribuntu> jott: let me try ...
[01:08] <user__> cpk1 is can we get into a private chat for a second just to plow thru this???
[01:08] <cpk1> user__: sudo lshw works
[01:09] <user__> yah that worked
[01:09] <user__> but the mounting didnt
[01:09] <user__> i have all the sba/b/c though
[01:09] <jmichaelx> underdog5004: you have an idea what might be wrong?
[01:09] <cpk1> what did it say?
[01:09] <fribuntu> jott: it does not really work. I can hear some static and my voice very faint in the background.
[01:09] <user__> sd rather
[01:09] <user__> p.s.  how do i make it so i specifically write to you again?
[01:10] <jott> fribuntu: have you tried recorind with arecord?
[01:10] <cpk1> user__: what was the mount error and what type of FS is this you are trying to mount?
[01:10] <user__> cpk1: nvm, remebered
[01:10] <fribuntu> jott: That has the same problem. *beeeep* :(
[01:10] <jott> :(
[01:10] <fribuntu> jott: it is a PITA
[01:10] <user__> cpk1: the error was command not found, also, its a brand new drive, no FS
[01:10] <earl_> i have a question, it's kind of unrelated to linux
[01:11] <user__> cpk1: 3 brand new drives
[01:11] <fribuntu> jott: recording sound with Linux has always been a bit of a pain. But this time I cannot get it to work at all.
[01:11] <earl_> my friend just bought an ATX power supply - but he has a BTX computer. he can't use his new power supply can he
[01:11] <cpk1> user__: so you are going to have to format them first
[01:11] <user__> cpk1: just need to figure out one and uplicate the process
[01:11] <fribuntu> jott: It seems all the ALSA guys are very busy supporting playback, but nobody thinks about recording.
[01:11] <jott> fribuntu: so either its a bug in the alsa driver or you really missed some stupid flag in the mixer control (like disable spdif)
[01:11] <user__> cpk1: i thought they had to be mounted first?  argh, ok how is that done again???  sry man.... lol i totally forget
[01:11] <jott> 2^n combinations to try ;)
[01:12] <fribuntu> jott: let me restart alsamixer and go through the controlls, ok?
[01:12] <fribuntu> jott: Master volume ... set to 100%, check.
[01:12] <fribuntu> jott: Master Mono: off
[01:12] <fribuntu> jott: PCM is at 80%
[01:12] <jott> fribuntu: maybe pastebin your amixer is easier ;)
[01:13] <cpk1> user__: you are going to want to use mkfs
[01:13] <fribuntu> jott: hang on :)
[01:13] <cpk1> also cfdisk is easy to use if you want to make partitions on them
[01:13] <getafix> Can anyone help me with this error, even though i just restarted and nothing is running that i know of: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[01:13] <fribuntu> jott: which pastebin do you recommend?
[01:14] <julio> anyone can helpme i have an encore card pci adapter but my computer dont recognice
[01:14] <cpk1> to make sda all ext3 just do sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda
[01:14] <user__> cpk1: mkfs.... honestly it sounds familiar but i totally dont rember how to do it.  i did this whole procedure only 2wice and that was 3 years ago now
[01:14] <coreymon77> okay
[01:14] <coreymon77> guys
[01:14] <coreymon77> before i reboot
[01:14] <coreymon77> im trying to fix the problem
[01:15] <jott> fribuntu: either the ubuntu one or pastebin.ca come to my mind..
[01:15] <cpk1> user__: also you could try using gparted or qtparted for a gui that might be more intuitive and easier for you
[01:15] <jott> fribuntu: brb.. ;)
[01:15] <coreymon77> what kernel version is the latest working version
[01:15] <user__> cpk1: it says: /dev/sda is entire device, not just one partition!
[01:15] <user__> cpk1: is it ok to procedd?
[01:15] <getafix> :~$ apt-get update
[01:15] <getafix> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:15] <getafix> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[01:15] <getafix> i get that in terminal that mean anything to anyone?
[01:16] <cpk1> getafix: you need to use sudo
[01:16] <getafix> sweet that worked thanks
[01:16] <user__> cpk1: also, which is for kde, qt or gparted???
[01:16] <getafix> what about this? E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:17] <flaccid> !qtparted
[01:17] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[01:17] <julio> help
[01:17] <flaccid> getafix: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:17] <fribuntu> jott: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4786/
[01:18] <Timbo_> nabend
[01:18] <Timbo_> !list
[01:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:18] <Timbo_> list
[01:18] <cpk1> kde use qt and gnome uses gtk but both can be used on both
[01:18] <coreymon77> guys
[01:19] <coreymon77> the forum thread is confusing me
[01:19] <cpk1> getafix: obviously you should do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:19] <jmichaelx> could anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and crash. my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/   i was up all night trying to fix this and am at an end. if i am not providing enough detail, please let me know
[01:19] <coreymon77> can someone juswt explain to me how to revert to the working kernel images
[01:20] <cpk1> coreymon77: you should still have the old kernel installed in /boot so if there is a problem while booting make sure to choose the correct kernel
[01:20] <getafix> yeah i know i did it straight away, i meant more what it was doing
[01:20] <user__> cpk1: hey cpk, please hang tight, im going to try that gui out and see how it goes, brb
[01:20] <jmichaelx> coreymon77: your old kernels are still there, just choose one in the grub menu when you boot up, if what you just installed does not work, it isn't that big of a deal
[01:20] <Alethes> anybody else had any issues with konq grinding away when attempting to access any files with icon view?
[01:20] <Bxnp> guys, i need realy quick help, my harddisk is about to die any minut now
[01:21] <Bxnp> how can i back up my mail with kmail
[01:21] <julio> i dont know what you say timbo
[01:21] <Bxnp> wich files do i need to save
[01:21] <Bxnp> cause i am in a bit off panic right now
[01:21] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, lol, sorry I was afk...went to the post office. No, I have no Idea...I just do sudo apt-get remove --purge kaffeine kaffeine-xine && sudo apt-get install kaffeine kaffeine-xine
[01:21] <cpk1> getafix: dpkg is the package tool and -a means all, so you are configuring all packages that need to be
[01:21] <getafix> ahh awesome thanks man
[01:22] <Bxnp> stdin: are you here
[01:22] <jmichaelx> underdog5004: ty no problem.... i will try that, although i tried everything last night, including reinstalling all of kde
[01:23] <julio> timbo can you helpme
[01:23] <spitwise> Bxnp: i'm researching for ya
[01:25] <Bxnp> thanks spitwise
[01:25] <jmichaelx> underdog5004: unfortunately it did not work....
[01:25] <Bxnp> i found the kmail directory as an hidden file in my home direcotry but cant copy that file to my usb stick
[01:25] <Bxnp> get an error
[01:26] <coreymon77> im okay
[01:26] <coreymon77> nothing happened
[01:26] <coreymon77> it didnt install
[01:26] <coreymon77> the new kernel didnt install
[01:26] <coreymon77> yes!
[01:28] <Bxnp> spitwise: i only need my mail
[01:28] <cpk1> Bxnp: it should save mail to .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail
[01:28] <Bxnp> exported my adressbook already as vcard
[01:28] <Bxnp> and i am uploading all my pictures to my ftp
[01:28] <jott> fribuntu: hmm ok you could try (as a bruteforce approach) toggle: MicBoost/MicPlayback/MonoOutputSelect and reduce capture to like 80% ..
[01:28] <Bxnp> oke i copy that direcotry
[01:30] <cpk1> Bxnp: that dir has sent mail too, if you want just recieved then its .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/
[01:31] <getafix> say i download a .tar.bz2 how do you install it?
[01:31] <underdog5004> jmichaelx, uh...it errors out for me a couple times, then it works...bleagh...I also do killall kaffeine
[01:32] <moparisthebest> how do I run something every hour in kubuntu?
[01:32] <moparisthebest> a shell script
[01:32] <moparisthebest> Im in /etc/crontab, but I dont know what I put for the options
[01:32] <fribuntu> jott: I have already tried that. Mic boost does increase the volume, but also the volume of the *beeeeep*
[01:33] <jmichaelx> underdog5004: i had never had any problems before... have used kubuntu/kaffeine on this laptop since breezy
[01:33] <cpk1> getafix: first you should make absolutely certain there isnt a deb of it first
[01:33] <fribuntu> jott: Interesting enough, I still get the beep, if I mute the mic and record what should be silence.
[01:33] <getafix> hmm theres just one link, and its for that
[01:34] <getafix> not .deb
[01:34] <jott> fribuntu: so mic is set as "CAPTUR", muted and you still get beep?
[01:34] <getafix> what consequently is .deb (debian)?
[01:34] <Bxnp> cpk1: thanks :)
[01:34] <fribuntu> jott: Yes.
[01:35] <cpk1> getafix: what are you trying to install?
[01:35] <getafix> I think just some theme things
[01:36] <getafix> but i've found a kubuntu deb for the same thing somewhere else, still opens the same extraction program what should i be doing with that
[01:36] <spitwise> moparisthebest: *3 command &
[01:36] <moparisthebest> spitwise, right now I have:
[01:36] <moparisthebest> 0  *	* * *	root    sh /root/getRS.sh
[01:36] <moparisthebest> is that right?
[01:37] <jonathan__> anyone know how to createa debian package from a bunch of extracted files
[01:37] <spitwise> actually */3 should also mean every hour
[01:37] <NkZ> Greetings.
[01:38] <NkZ> How do I set up a list of programs that I want to be run at startup (Something like Gnome's "Sessions" menu)
[01:40] <spitwise> moparisthebest: you have some chars i can't see in my terminal
[01:40] <Timbo_> icant play qpotato.com games with linux :(
[01:41] <NkZ> How do I set up a list of programs that I want to be run at startup (Something like Gnome's "Sessions" menu)
[01:41] <spitwise> NkZ: you can use your .bashrc
[01:41] <moparisthebest> Im in the file /etc/crontab spitwise
[01:41] <moparisthebest> all of my lines are formatted like the one I pasted
[01:41] <moparisthebest> but 0 should run it every hour or not?
[01:41] <NkZ> spitwuse: sudo view .bashrc?
[01:44] <user__> cpk1: you still here?
[01:44] <zblach> hey, i just got an external HDD larger than my laptop's. what should I use for archiving everything?
[01:44] <zblach> and what should I archive?
[01:44] <spitwise> NkZ: or edit /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:44] <user__> cpk1: i formated the drives with gtparted, ext3 format, now what should i do?
[01:45] <spitwise> ya sudo kate /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:45] <jmichaelx> could anyone help me on this? i cannot play any video files right now using kaffeine+xine (or anything else plus xine, as far as i can tell.) it makes programs like kaffeine and crash. my debugging info looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4775/   i was up all night trying to fix this and am at an end. if i am not providing enough detail, please let me know  |   the kde crash handler says 'signal 11 (SIGSEGV)'
[01:45] <user__> cpk1: ???
[01:47] <cpk1> user__: use them?
[01:47] <user__> cpk1: lol.... uhhhh i formated them but they dont come up in my storage media folder
[01:47] <vbgunz> anyone know how to tell why some upgrades don't happen? e.g., I have 3 updates but they will not apply. Why?
[01:47] <spitwise> jmichaelx: what happens when you try to play?
[01:48] <cpk1> user__: you need to mount them
[01:48] <cpk1> and possibly partition them
[01:48] <jmichaelx> spitwise: i just get the kde crash handler
[01:49] <user__> cpk1: ok, how do i go about doing that?
[01:49] <spitwise> have you tried vlc, mplayer, etc?
[01:49] <vbgunz> I got linux-headers|image|restricted-modules-generic updates, (3 updates) but cannot apply them. Adept update only says BREAK (upgrade) ... so, what do I do to fix it?
[01:49] <jmichaelx> spitwise: vlc and mplayer work fine
[01:49] <user__> cpk1: terminal and... sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda????????
[01:50] <cpk1> thats how you format it
[01:50] <user__> cpk1: oh, ok, gotcha
[01:50] <cpk1> gparted or qtparted would probably be simpler for you
[01:50] <user__> cpk1: i just uesed them to format it, they will mount thru that as well?
[01:51] <jmichaelx> spitwise: kaffeine crashed while playing a video last night, and has refused to work since (using xine engine)
[01:52] <spitwise> have you tried reinstalling or dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:53] <zblach> jmichaelx: killall kaffeine
[01:53] <zblach> and then start it up again
[01:53] <user__> cpk1: ??
[01:54] <baracuda> hey guys
[01:54] <jmichaelx> spitwise: yes, i have uninstalled, purged and re-installed for hours on end..... i even uninstalled and re-installed all of kubuntu-desktop / kde
[01:54] <spitwise> have the latest xine libs?
[01:54] <jmichaelx> spitwise: yeah, it isn't that
[01:54] <baracuda> jmichaelx I see you're having kubuntu probs too
[01:54] <spitwise> oh man
[01:55] <jmichaelx> it crashd while playing the vid.... i have had kubuntu on this laptop for a year, and things were fine until last night
[01:56] <baracuda> you're lucky jmichael I've only used kubuntu for about a week and this is my third installation
[01:56] <user__> o mannnnn.....  :(  anyone else know how to mount sata hd's?
[01:57] <jmichaelx> baracuda: after a rough start , i have gotten along well with kubuntu... i love it...
[01:57] <baracuda>  now I can't access my home folder, adept and many other applictions .. I tried to remove soem deb applications in terminal but it says it's locked
[01:58] <spitwise> jmichaelx: have you tried using the gstreamer engine instead?
[01:58] <baracuda> jmichaelx I hope I get to the stage when I say I go along well with kubunto too
[01:58] <jmichaelx> i am going to have to reinstall, i think, which makes me want to cry...... getting wireless to work and getting the screen resolution working were my biggest headaches of all.... they are what caused my re-installs
[01:58] <spitwise> what machine do you have?
[01:59] <jmichaelx> spit, no, but i guess i could try....
[01:59] <user__> soooo no one knows how to mount drives?
[01:59] <baracuda>  it's always a bother to have to reinstall :(
[01:59] <jmichaelx> baracuda: yeah, it is
[02:00] <baracuda> where is uboto
[02:00] <baracuda> or is it ubotu
[02:00] <user__> can anyone PLEASE help me mount this hd?
[02:00] <jmichaelx> spitwise: i have a dell dimension b130
[02:00] <GM_Debian> user__: what is the problem
[02:00] <getafix> anyone able to direct me to YOUR_HOME/.qt where would it be located?
[02:01] <baracuda> user I wish I could .. I can't even mount my home folder :(
[02:01] <user__> GM_Debian: well, ive got to the point where i have formated them with gtparted and do not know how to mount them, they are all sata
[02:01] <earl_> anyone here know a decent amount about samba?
[02:02] <user__> GM_Debian: its been a VERY long time since ive mounted drives and totally dont rember how to
[02:02] <GM_Debian> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html
[02:02] <user__> GM_Debian: and they were ide back them
[02:03] <GM_Debian> earl_: whats the prob?
[02:03] <earl_> I am trying to share a folder to some other windows compies
[02:03] <earl_> but none of them can see it...
[02:03] <spitwise> jmichaelx: well i see threads about xine+kaffeine probs
[02:03] <earl_> also, I cannot access a shared printer on another windows box from this kubuntu box
[02:03] <spitwise> your not alone
[02:03] <spitwise> don;t do a new install b/c of buggy software
[02:03] <baracuda> status database area is locked by another process   ???   how can I unlock it ?
[02:04] <jmichaelx> spitwise: it is just that i had no problems until i was in the middle of a video last night... i have no idea what engine it was using, but i would be pretty sure it was xine
[02:04] <spitwise> user__: what type of drive?
[02:04] <GM_Debian> earl_: checked all the basics, same workgroup etc
[02:04] <jmichaelx> spitwise: i don't think it is the software
[02:05] <earl_> well, as far as linux goes, i dont even know how to -set- workgroups.
[02:05] <GM_Debian> earl_: you have basic tcp connectivity between boxes
[02:05] <lunchbox> !Adept unlock
[02:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:05] <earl_> yeah. there is no doubt there is tcp connectivity, when i search for printers i can see the names of the other computers, i just can't find the printers
[02:06] <user__> spitwise: they are all sata
[02:06] <spitwise> external drives ?
[02:06] <user__> spitwise: western digital
[02:06] <user__> spitwise: no, internal
[02:06] <spitwise> hd's i mean
[02:06] <spitwise> ok
[02:06] <user__> spitwise: yah but this thing im reading isnt helping to much... :(
[02:07] <user__> spitwise: do you know if theres a site that has just the commands, i dont need to read why this and that happens, i just need it to happen, so i can copy and paste some command in and presto, 5mins and up and running
[02:08] <user__> spitwise: anything like that exist?
[02:09] <spitwise> mount /dev/hda? /mnt/mountpoint
[02:09] <GM_Debian> user__: what was wrong with the one i gave you
[02:09] <jmichaelx> what file or setting allows a person to see an icon with a preview of each video file? that also quit working last night at the exact time that i started having video problems
[02:09] <user__> GM_Debian: well, its not all to specific to the issue, they are all satas, not floppies, and i dont know how to create that intital mount point.
[02:10] <GM_Debian> mkdir
[02:10] <user__> GM_Debian: and secondly, i have until tonight to find out if they are all functioning fine because the instore return is tomorrow
[02:10] <user__> so im alittle stressed
[02:10] <user__> lol
[02:10] <spitwise> user__: ttp://www.smorgasbord.net/how_to_install_second_hard_drive_ubuntu_linux
[02:11] <spitwise> ls /etc/fstab to find /dev/wheresmydrive
[02:11] <zblach> sorta
[02:12] <zblach> /etc/fstab links hardware (in /dev) to folders
[02:12] <spitwise> not sure what exactly you wanna do bu that url looks useful
[02:12] <jmichaelx> spitwise: also...democracyplayer crashes immediately when launched now.... maybe this isn't even an issue with xine.....
[02:13] <user__> spitwise: thanks man, but same issue.  so i have to edit fstab to get these all up and running
[02:13] <user__> i thought sata would be different?
[02:13] <angasule> adept updater shows I can upgrade the kernel, but it doesn't automatically select it for upgrade, why is that? is it safe to upgrade?
[02:13] <jmichaelx> can someone tell me what file or setting allows a person to see an icon with a preview of each video file in konqueror?
[02:13] <Jucato> angasule: it's a known issue. it won't upgrade anything at all, so it's safe to ignore
[02:13] <cpk1> fstab is for automounting stuff, you dont need it to mount, you make a random directory anywhere and then do sudo mount /dev/sd* /imade/this/for/fun
[02:14] <sleepy745> Anyone have skdata for SuperKaramba? How do I change the months into English?
[02:14] <cpk1> if in the future you want your satas to mount on boot then yes you will need fstab entries for them
[02:14] <cpk1> first concentrate on mounting them
[02:14] <sleepy745> its in Italian right now
[02:15] <angasule> Jucato: so it's safe to select those packages for upgrade so it will stop pestering me?
[02:15] <spitwise> cpk1: how do you find out out what it is? /dev/sd???
[02:15] <Jucato> angasule: even if you select them, they will be held back
[02:15] <user__> spitwise: well that didnt work.......
[02:15] <cpk1> angasule: there seems to be a problem with the kernal upgrade though
[02:15] <user__> jesus christ....
[02:15] <angasule> Jucato: bummer
[02:16] <cpk1> spitwise: sudo lshw will tell you the logical name
[02:16] <angasule> oh, well, gotta go make a phone call
[02:16] <Jucato> angasule: so there's nothing you can do right now except to ignore the notifcation
[02:16] <spitwise> cpk1: sweet thanks for da info] 
[02:17] <earl_> GM_Debian: how do i set the workgroup on my linux compy?
[02:17] <GM_Debian> dmesg|grep sd
[02:17] <user__> GM_Debian: i cant mkdir
[02:17] <cpk1> user__: also note that I cant remember the last time I added a new hard drive and might be forgetting something, for instance I am not sure if you need to make a partition out of it or not, but it wouldnt hurt to try to
[02:17] <GM_Debian> in smb.conf , workgroup = foo
[02:18] <cpk1> user__: you can mkdir in your home folder otherwise you might need sudo
[02:18] <user__> lol.... naw man, i dont need any partiions
[02:18] <GM_Debian> user__: as cpk1 said, need sudo or mount in your home
[02:18] <user__> i tried this: $ sudo mkdir /media/XXXXXX
[02:18] <user__> not the xxx's, but yu get the jist
[02:19] <cpk1> that will work
[02:19] <cpk1> and then do sudo mount /dev/sd* /media/XXXXX
[02:19] <jmichaelx> can someone tell me what file or setting allows a person to see an icon with a preview of video files in konqueror?
[02:21] <troxor> would someone kindly refresh my memory on the method to have dapper automatically update every so often (the ubuntu way, without putting dist-upgrade in a cronjob) ?
[02:22] <getafix> anyone able to tell me where you change the colour of the bottom task bar?
[02:22] <infornography> I just installed kubuntu, is there a reason that the kernel packages are being held back when I try to update? and is it a problem?
[02:22] <user__> cpk1: spitwise GM_Debian........ i love you guys....
[02:22] <user__> lol
[02:23] <user__> it worked!
[02:23] <spitwise> jmichaelx: look in kcontrol > KDE Components >  File Associations
[02:23] <jmichaelx> spitwise: ty
[02:23] <troxor> getafix: right click->configure panel ->appearance
[02:24] <getafix> awesome ta troxor was looking in appereance
[02:24] <spitwise> jmichaelx: not sure if that'll help though
[02:25] <Jucato> jmichaelx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 <--- there's a section there about video previews in konqueror (applies to Dapper and Edgy)
[02:26] <jmichaelx> spitwise: those previews stopped working when the video crashed..... there is something going on that is not allowing those previews, and i think it is the same problem i am having with kaffeine-xine and democracyplayer
[02:27] <spitwise> but the weird thing is that vlc and mplayer *do* work
[02:28] <jmichaelx> yeah
[02:28] <jmichaelx> this is strange and frustrating
[02:29] <GM_Debian> previews are managed from settings -> configure konq -> previews and meta-data
[02:29] <spitwise> kaffeine is kinda shady if ya ask me
[02:29] <spitwise> i do use it but i prefer vlc for video
[02:31] <BluesKaj> shady?
[02:31] <spitwise> shaday
[02:32] <GM_Debian> libarts1-xine
[02:32] <spitwise> it craps out on me at times
[02:32] <GM_Debian> i think is the package that actually controls the video previews though
[02:34] <GM_Debian> ok
[02:35] <GM_Debian> confirmed it, install libarts1-xine, then you will have the option view -> previews -> video preview
[02:35] <specialbuddy> what's a shortcut to go to different desktops?
[02:35] <user__> crap... new problem... how do i get write permissions?
[02:36] <Jucato> specialbuddy: Ctrl+Tab by default
[02:36] <Jucato> specialbuddy: or Ctrl+Fn
[02:36] <specialbuddy> chmod u+rwx
[02:36] <user__> cpk1: do you know how?
[02:36] <specialbuddy> user_, what are you trying to do?
[02:37] <user__> specialbuddy: trying to get wrie permission to my recently mounted drives
[02:37] <user__> specialbuddy: to copy files over
[02:37] <GM_Debian> user__: what are they formatted as?
[02:37] <spitwise> sudo chown -R user:user /mountpoint
[02:37] <specialbuddy> oh
[02:37] <specialbuddy> you might have to edit fstab to do that
[02:37] <user__> GM_Debian: all are ext3
[02:37] <spitwise> mm ya
[02:38] <spitwise> chmod -R 755 /driveblah
[02:38] <jmichaelx> does any of you know how to install and configure 915 resolution?
[02:38] <user__> spitwise: so which one should i use?
[02:39] <specialbuddy> is there a way to get to my other desktops with a shortcut?  ctrl+tab only goes to other windows not desktops
[02:39] <GM_Debian> user__: is it beacuse you dont have perms to write to them, or they are mounted ro?
[02:40] <user__> GM_Debian: well i made mount point, mounted them, they are accesable, but cannot be written too
[02:40] <GM_Debian> no, not if you do it like that
[02:40] <GM_Debian> will only be writable by root
[02:40] <user__> GM_Debian: argh....
[02:41] <user__> GM_Debian: so how do i mke it so i can read write, etc, freely?
[02:41] <GM_Debian> chuck the mount stanza in your /etc/fstab
[02:41] <sampan> specialbuddy  i think the default is cntl-f#
[02:41] <user__> GM_Debian: .... riiiight
[02:41] <user__> lol
[02:42] <user__> GM_Debian: and how do i do that??
[02:42] <GM_Debian> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[02:42] <getafix> how can I get kubuntu wasing my 4 and 5 buttons for back and forward through windows?
[02:43] <getafix> urr using
[02:43] <user__> GM_Debian: okkk got some funky stuff here, now what?
[02:43] <charlie5> hi all ... when i opened up the 'kubuntu updates' icon today, there was a list of upgradeable packages where some were selected automatically for update, but severl were not ... i've not seen this before ... does that mean there might be a problem if i try to do those updates ?
[02:44] <slyfox> Does anyone has transparancy enabled in Windows ?
[02:44] <GM_Debian> and chuck : /dev/sdx <mntpoint> ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[02:44] <baracuda> Yes!!  solved my problem by chance,  it was all caused by an unfinished java jre  installation :)
[02:45] <slyfox> I mean does anyone have transparancy enabled in KDE windows ? does it work? I cant get mine to work
[02:45] <main> hey how do i uninstall windows prgrams i installed with wine??
[02:45] <baracuda> now I have back my adept,vlc,konquero....etc
[02:45] <main> ?
[02:46] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to got to different desktops by just pressing some shortcut keys?
[02:46] <main> ??
[02:46] <user__> GM_Debian: ummm big problem.  none of my sata drives come up.  only my windows partiion, fat32 swap, swap, and linux parition come up
[02:46] <user__> need windows for games unfortunately
[02:46] <baracuda> the only major problem I now have is to have sound in kaffeine player when I watch tv  and the codecs for it to play avi's ..etc
[02:46] <charlie5> the packages which were not automatically requested for update all involve the kenerl (linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic & linux_restricted-modules) ... would it be safe to upgrade these ?
[02:46] <GM_Debian> sudo mount -a
[02:46] <main> hellpp
[02:47] <main> i dont know how to uninstall windows programs i installe dwith wine
[02:47] <baracuda> Can anyone help with my kaffeine problem !  I would appreciate that very much
[02:47] <main> cant find drive c anywhere
[02:47] <Gretl> charlie5: you have to wait its a known issue  till the kernels are ready
[02:47] <Gretl> charlie5: probably tomorrow
[02:48] <charlie5> Gretl: ah, thank you ... so i should not update them at the moment
[02:48] <main> >??
[02:48] <charlie5> tomorrow ... thats no problem
[02:48] <user__> GM_Debian: that didnt do anything
[02:48] <Gretl> charlie5:  no do nothing just wait
[02:49] <charlie5> Gretl: thanks again ... probably saved me from klutzing my system ... cheers :)
[02:49] <spitwise> specialbuddy: ctrl + tab
[02:49] <baracuda> or maybe someone can tell me how to install codecs for kaffeine ?
[02:49] <spitwise> ctrl + f1 ,2,3,4 or so
[02:49] <underdog5004> baracuda, sudo apt-cache search codec
[02:49] <underdog5004> baracuda, then you pick and choose what you want to install
[02:49] <spitwise> !codecs
[02:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <Gretl> !restricted | baracuda
[02:50] <main> anyone know how to uninstall windows programs  innstalled thru wine?
[02:50] <ubotu> baracuda: please see above
[02:50] <baracuda> cheers underdog .. i try that now
[02:50] <main> ??
[02:50] <deathnote> !hardware
[02:50] <underdog5004> np
[02:50] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:50] <deathnote> !dev
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <specialbuddy> thank you spitwise :)
[02:50] <spitwise> somebody answered you before .. you musta been at another desktop ;)
[02:50] <bxnphardwareprob> oke who helped me with my kmail backup
[02:50] <deathnote> hi i would like to know if i plug a new Pci card in let's say a tv card, will kubuntu auto detect and install or i have to do something from the console?
[02:51] <user__> gm?
[02:51] <user__> GM_Debian: ?
[02:52] <jmichaelx> if anyone could help , it would be greatly appreciated.... last night kaffeine crashed while playing a video... since then i kaffeine crashes when using the xine engine. also, programs like democracyplayer and amarok also crash. thanks in advance for the assistance
[02:52] <Gretl> deathnote: it autodetect most tv cards
[02:52] <jmichaelx> spitwise: i just discovered that amarok will not work either
[02:52] <spitwise> i assume you have done a reboot
[02:52] <baracuda> underdog I have the list of the cache, can you give me the syntax for install ?
[02:52] <Gretl> deathnote: but make sure in some forum the card is not at blacklist before buying
[02:53] <jmichaelx> spitwise: were you asking me whether or not i had rebooted?
[02:53] <user__> ok so gm is gone, can anyone esle help with the permissions issue?
[02:53] <deathnote> i would like to know how to manage, view or know my hardwares better like what is /dev etc.. actually
[02:54] <spitwise> jmichaelx: heh ya
[02:54] <baracuda> are all the codecs in cache available for installation or already installed ?
[02:54] <user__> basically all i need is to have all permissions gone so i can read and write to my drives freely
[02:54] <spitwise> deathnote: cpkle told me this cool command: sudo lshw
[02:54] <jmichaelx> spitwise: no, maybe i should at this point
[02:54] <jmichaelx> brb
[02:55] <Gretl> deathnote: to view what is installed go to info center
[02:55] <kgx> spitwise: nice :D
[02:55] <user__> spi
[02:55] <user__> spitwise: do you know how?
[02:55] <spitwise> ya cool stuff
[02:56] <spitwise> user__: look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[02:58] <deathnote> hi.. i used lshw .. so those devices listed are suppose to be in /dev ?
[02:58] <underdog5004> baracuda, I think so
[02:59] <spitwise> deathnote: ya
[02:59] <spitwise> sudo lshw | less
[02:59] <spitwise> then type /dev to search
[02:59] <spitwise> n to go to next instance
[02:59] <deathnote> eg i wanna find where's my sound.. is it in /dev/snd ? or /dev/audio or /dev/dsp ??
[03:00] <spitwise> <-search for dev <- this word
[03:00] <spitwise>  /
[03:00] <spitwise> oh
[03:01] <deathnote> i saw alot of /dev/hda or hdc..but i guess its harddisk and cdrom..for my multimedia audio it doesn't have /dev/xxxx
[03:02] <Gretl> perhaps you take a look at the grafik interface
[03:02] <Gretl> system -> infocenter
[03:03] <NkZ> Greetings
[03:04] <NkZ> Sorry to bother again, but I can't find a way to add commands to be run automatically at the session startup (Let's say for Example, Beryl) (Something like "Session" in gNOME)
[03:05] <getafix> whats my problem here?
[03:05] <getafix> sudo edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:05] <getafix> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- using "application/*"
[03:05] <getafix> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
[03:05] <underdog5004> getafix, sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:05] <spitwise> deathnote: just ls it to see whats there?
[03:05] <getafix> cool
[03:05] <underdog5004> or if you like the CLI, sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:06] <KalakChiPetra> evening everyone
[03:06] <getafix> why kate instead of edit?
[03:06] <spitwise> cuz kate is actually an application
[03:06] <spitwise> :)
[03:06] <KalakChiPetra> Just popping in to see if there has been any chatter on the kernal update fix
[03:07] <NkZ> Hello anyone? :-P
[03:07] <spitwise> ls -l /dev/snd
[03:07] <deathnote> spitwise: yeah.. saw a bunch of things ..i wanna find out like which is my video etc? /dev/video ? but mine don't have
[03:07] <spitwise> KalakChiPetra: all i've heard so far is not to update ..
[03:07] <Gretl> better kdesu kate
[03:07] <getafix> ahh sweet ta spit
[03:07] <Jucato> KalakChiPetra: no fix yet. but known issue and being worked on
[03:08] <deathnote> u see.. some of my applications need me to specify where my hardwares are, but i couldn't find
[03:08] <spitwise> but i'm on ppc .. not in the loop really
[03:08] <user__> spitwise: its a no go man.....
[03:08] <KalakChiPetra> spitwise: Too late for that, I updated early this morning luckily Im still somewhat stable
[03:08] <user__> edited the fstab
[03:08] <spitwise> kewl
[03:08] <user__> tried the chown stuff
[03:08] <user__> didnt work
[03:08] <Jucato> actually, there's no problem with updating... coz nothing will happen
[03:08] <spitwise> sudo chmod 777 /whereitsmounted
[03:08] <spitwise> may work .
[03:09] <KalakChiPetra> I got the main kernel update there are just 2 others that wont upgrade
[03:09] <spitwise> i should really be drinking beer
[03:09] <KalakChiPetra> spitwise: I am drinking beer
[03:09] <spitwise> saweet
[03:09] <KalakChiPetra> very much so
[03:09] <NkZ> Sorry to bother again, but I can't find a way to add commands to be run automatically at the session startup (Let's say for Example, Beryl) (Something like "Session" in gNOME)
[03:09] <d0uglas> Got Momma an AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-50 256KBx2 l@ cACHE @ 1.6GHz.. will the latest linux kernel take full advantage of that mofo?
[03:10] <KalakChiPetra> I really need to hop in this room more often
[03:10] <deathnote> can someone care to explain what's /dev actually?
[03:10] <d0uglas> (got Momma [a laptop with]  the AMD]  etc)
[03:10] <KalakChiPetra> I really need a new box
[03:10] <user__> spitwise: nope.... still no
[03:10] <user__> argh this is a disaster
[03:11] <NkZ> deathnote: As far as I know dude, It's the "Devices" folder. That is: CDRoms, USBdisk and bla bla bla
[03:11] <user__> anyone care to weigh in on this permissions nightmare?
[03:11] <getafix> how do you write in kate theres like . that comes up when you hit space but how do you leave spaces so you the code line you're entering looks the same as the rest?
[03:12] <KalakChiPetra> The only files I cannot update are linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[03:12] <valdivia> hola
[03:12] <NkZ> Sorry to bother again, but I can't find a way to add commands to be run automatically at the session startup (Let's say for Example, Beryl) (Something like "Session" in gNOME) Anyone knows?
[03:12] <deathnote> user__:  what?
[03:13] <user__> deathnote: harddrive permisisons
[03:13] <user__> to have full read and write access
[03:13] <KalakChiPetra> ignore the magical space periods
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> NkZ: ~/.kde/Autosart
[03:13] <valdivia> alguien que hable espaol
[03:13] <manom_> holas
[03:14] <Jucato> !es | valdivia
[03:14] <ubotu> valdivia: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:14] <NkZ> Leejunfan: Thanks. :-)
[03:14] <deathnote> user__: pm?
[03:14] <jesse__> Does anybody know how to setup a dual moniter
[03:14] <valdivia> gracias
[03:15] <jesse__> or like a split desktop on either ubuntu or kubuntu desktop enviroments?
[03:15] <getafix> Spitwise: how would i got about doing this once i'm inside kate editing the file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374&page=7
[03:15] <user__> gm i cant use the chat i have toregister
[03:15] <user__> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:15] <user__> spam.... yah right
[03:15] <user__> jesus
[03:16] <deathnote> what u get from mount -l
[03:16] <deathnote> for the harddisk
[03:16] <NkZ> LeeJunFan: KDE/Autostart is a folder, What should I do with that? make a file, dunno, move the links there?
[03:16] <deathnote> need to know the filesystem of the harddisk you mounting
[03:16] <deathnote> ntfs may have problem writing on it
[03:16] <jesse__> or like a split desktop on either ubuntu or kubuntu desktop enviroments?
[03:16] <jesse__> Does anybody know how to setup a dual moniter
[03:16] <jesse__> or like a split desktop on either ubuntu or kubuntu desktop enviroments?
[03:17] <jesse__> sorry
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> NkZ: make a bash script or a link to the program you want to run.
[03:17] <NkZ> would Kcontrol-Autostart help?
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> NkZ: dunno - never noticed it.
[03:18] <Jucato> !autostart
[03:18] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:18] <user__> christ.... ok how do you register this thing?
[03:18] <deathnote> user__: hello?
[03:18] <Jucato> NkZ: the Beryl Wiki has some instructions on how to run Beryl at KDE startup
[03:18] <cpk1> user__: does root have rw access to the drive or is it mounted read only?
[03:19] <user__> it says rw beside it
[03:19] <NkZ> Jucato: Will try that, thanks. :-)
[03:19] <user__>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[03:19] <getafix> anyone able to tell me how i can do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374&page=7
[03:19] <user__> ARGH
[03:20] <deathnote> !register
[03:20] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:20] <jesse__> Does anybody know how to setup a dual moniter?
[03:21] <kgx> in kde, i want to set up a shortcut to paste something (it's password in leet letters for one of our machines). so i set up a keyboard input shortcut in kde control center but it doesnt seem to work, anyone know what could be wrong? is it even possible to set up a shortcut to paste text into the active window?
[03:21] <NkZ> Thanks, KControl-Autostart did the magic
[03:21] <manom_> jesse__: i tried and didn't get it. You wil need to mess with xorg.conf(create new sections for the other monitor, and probably some options to your device driver). google...
[03:22] <user__> cpk1: any ideas?
[03:22] <jesse__> manom:>thanks i'll try and i'll keep you poseted
[03:22] <manom_> jesse__: keyword: xinerama dual-head
[03:22] <manom_> ...
[03:22] <cpk1> user__: with what?
[03:23] <user__> cpk1: with the permissions, it does say rw
[03:23] <sanddrag> is there a way to install just the Kubuntu desktop without the like 500 kthis kthat programs?
[03:23] <deathnote> user__: what's the file system of the harddisk:????
[03:23] <cpk1> user__: so you can write to the harddrive?/
[03:23] <jesse__> manom:>what do you mean by dual=head
[03:23] <user__> deathnote: ext3
[03:23] <jesse__> manom:>what do you mean by dual-head
[03:23] <jesse__> sorry
[03:23] <user__> cpk1: no i cant
[03:23] <NkZ> He he he he he Sorry, Is there a way to reduce the Opacity of the Menu? (Just as the panel)
[03:24] <deathnote> user__: can u paste what's mounted for your harddisk? mount -l
[03:24] <manom_> i don't remember if its right... i think i found related things searching for that
[03:25] <cpk1> user__: can root write to the hard drive?
[03:25] <jesse__> let me try and research on it
[03:25] <user__> whats the pastebin address again?
[03:25] <jesse__> just wanted some kind of start before i went and played around
[03:25] <manom_> good luck!
[03:25] <user__> ill paste it there
[03:25] <cpk1> its in the topic
[03:25] <jesse__> thanks i'll need it
[03:26] <deathnote> just paste the 1 line of your harddisk?
[03:26] <deathnote> or partition that u trying to mount
[03:27] <deathnote> user__: paste also df -h , fdisk -l , mount -l if u pasting at bin
[03:27] <getafix> anyone know why gedit doesn't work?
[03:27] <deathnote> getafix: apt-get install gedit
[03:28] <getafix> sweeet
[03:28] <getafix> danke
[03:28] <user__> deathnote: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4809/
[03:29] <goodthing> wow, neverball potentially does not like aiglx
[03:29] <deathnote> user__: which harddisk/partitions u having problem with?
[03:29] <user__> dea
[03:29] <user__> deathnote: all 3 of the satas
[03:29] <user__> the 2 500 gb drives and the one 320
[03:30] <deathnote> user__: btw, u are using user to do the mount -l
[03:30] <deathnote> user__: can u type sudo bash , then enter your password
[03:31] <deathnote> user__: and then go into /windows ?
[03:32] <naught101> ok, I'm having a really wierd problem: my two battery monitors are telling me that I have not battery on my laptop, but I'm not plugged into the wall!
[03:32] <naught101> no battery
[03:33] <user__> deathnote: /windows didnt work
[03:33] <naught101> anyone ever seen anything like it?
[03:33] <deathnote> user__: are u root yet? i noticed u are user@User
[03:34] <Thehound666> I screwed up bad and don't know how. xserver won't start and need to restore my old xorg.conf
[03:34] <user__> yup im root now
[03:35] <user__> deathnote: yup im root now
[03:35] <Kamui> hey
[03:35] <deathnote> user__: ok.. so u can't ls inside /windows or u can't copy files in or what? what error u get? permission denied?
[03:35] <Thehound666> I attempted the fglrx drivers which now cause xserver to freeze upon load
[03:36] <user__> deathnote: im not trying to get into windows.  windows exists only for games.  i need to be able to use my 3 sata drives that i have just mounted
[03:36] <user__> deathnote: basically, all i need to do is just turn off all permissions somehow
[03:37] <Kamui> I need a good osx style dock that plays nice with kde
[03:37] <Kamui> any suggestions
[03:37] <Kamui> kiba-dock sucks
[03:37] <user__> deathnote: or whatever it is, all i need to do is to be able to read and write to all my hd's and problem solved
[03:37] <goodthing> user__: at least you can go into windows, i bought a dell laptop and can only boot straight into a bsod after one week usage
[03:37] <user__> i woulnd never buy a pc
[03:38] <user__> i put this baby together myself
[03:38] <user__> and i also hate dell
[03:38] <user__> lol
[03:38] <goodthing> user__: i do too :) but a building a laptop, that's a little different
[03:38] <user__> badddddddddddd bad parts
[03:38] <Thehound666> guess I'll have to use the windows program to backup my files from windows and format Kubuntu
[03:38] <Thehound666> again
[03:38] <user__> yahhhh laptops are i dunno.... all that heat pipe stuff is bs
[03:39] <user__> from my opinion heat pipes actually only work from a theoretical standpoint
[03:39] <cpk1> user__: so as root can you make a file on the satas? try touch /media/eva01/test
[03:39] <user__> but anyways
[03:40] <user__> cpk1: nope.....
[03:40] <deathnote> user__: could u pls be more descriptive like what's the error?
[03:40] <deathnote> permission denied?
[03:41] <cpk1> sudo /media/eva01/test ?
[03:41] <soulrider> user__: whats the filesystem of your partition? the one youre trying to write to
[03:41] <user__> command not found
[03:41] <user__> ext3
[03:41] <deathnote> fuk..
[03:41] <deathnote> soulrider: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4809/
[03:41] <Thehound666> trying to get in recovery mode from VMWare
[03:41] <user__> everything is exts3
[03:41] <soulrider> uhm
[03:42] <Thehound666> otherwise I can't use IRC
[03:42] <soulrider> user__: try sudo chmod -R +x <path to your partition>
[03:42] <deathnote> user__: type "sudo touch /media/eva01/test"
[03:43] <Kamui> sheeeiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[03:43] <soulrider> user__: may i ask why you named your partitons evaxx? im just curious :P
[03:43] <deathnote> user__: type "ls /media/eva01/test" what u see?
[03:43] <deathnote> user__: type "ls /media/eva01/" what u see?
[03:44] <user__> ok first, the -R +x didnt work, the test command didnt do anything, and eva from evangelion, dunno why, just seemd appropriate for some reason, and let me try the ls thing
[03:44] <user__> lost+found  test
[03:45] <soulrider> user__: i thought so :P why not call your PC MAGIE ?
[03:45] <deathnote> user__: there.. u just written a file in /media/eva01 ........
[03:45] <deathnote> user__: why u say u can't read or write in that partition?
[03:45] <user__> MAGIE!?  hahahah noooooooo... lol.
[03:45] <Kamui> osx style dock apps?
[03:45] <Kamui> other than kiba-dock?
[03:46] <soulrider> well, werent the 3 computers called like that> melchior casper and balthasar
[03:46] <user__> ok watch, i will try to put data on there..... one sec
[03:46] <Jucato> kxdocker?
[03:47] <KalakChiPetra> if his windows is NTSF he cant write to it
[03:47] <deathnote> user__: yea if u could type the command here on how u put some data there
[03:48] <deathnote> KalakChiPetra: yea hey is there any way to write in ntfs file system?
[03:48] <cpk1> user__: dont use a gui, try doing sudo cp /some/file/inmyhome /media/eva01/somename
[03:48] <user__> ok, A: i cannot create folders and such.  B:  i cannot copy information from an external harddrive to any of the sata drives
[03:48] <KalakChiPetra> none that I know of
[03:48] <cpk1> user__: also try going into /media/eva01 and then do mkdir testdir
[03:48] <surgy> anyone know the status of that bug fix to fix the update bug?
[03:49] <cpk1> sudo mkdir*
[03:49] <Hobbsee> surgy: in progress
[03:49] <surgy> hobbsee: kewl thnx
[03:49] <cpk1> Hobbsee: dont you think it would be useful to put the forum link in the topic?
[03:49] <KalakChiPetra> deathnote: thats why I keep a fat32 to move files between Windows and linux
[03:49] <Hobbsee> surgy: it's a bug in the releasing software
[03:49] <user__> bash: /media/eva01: is a directory
[03:49] <Hobbsee> cpk1: what forum link?
[03:49] <Hobbsee> cpk1: forums tend not to always be accurate
[03:50] <deathnote> hahaha
[03:50] <Kamui> hi Jucato
[03:50] <cpk1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408
[03:50] <Kamui> tried kxdocker
[03:50] <Kamui> its broken
[03:50] <Kamui> kiba-dock sucks
[03:50] <Hobbsee> deathnote: ?
[03:50] <Kamui> but I thought there was at least one other "good" one
[03:50] <deathnote> user__: 1) cd /media/eva01 , 2) sudo mkdir testdir , 3) ls -l
[03:50] <deathnote> Hobbsee: sorry what?
[03:51] <KalakChiPetra> kxdocker works for me
[03:51] <goodthing> kxdocker is fun, but took a lot of cpu and system responsiveness here when i last tried
[03:51] <Hobbsee> deathnote: was trying to figure out why you were laughing
[03:52] <user__> total 20
[03:52] <user__> drwx--x--x 2  777 user 16384 2007-02-08 19:30 lost+found
[03:52] <KalakChiPetra> I need more booze
[03:52] <user__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root     0 2007-02-08 21:43 test
[03:52] <user__> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2007-02-08 21:51 testdir
[03:52] <deathnote> Hobbsee: oh..because i saw bash: /media/eva01: is a directory
[03:52] <user__> thats what came out
[03:53] <deathnote> user__: there u are.. u created a testdir , and a file test .. so what's the problem?
[03:53] <Hobbsee> deathnote: ah
[03:53] <cpk1> user__: you obviously can read write, if your normal user cant write then that is not nearly as bad
[03:53] <Hobbsee> cpk1: replied to it
[03:53] <deathnote> yeah
[03:53] <user__> lol.... ok, so WHY can i not creat files, and cannot copy from an external hd?
[03:54] <Hobbsee> s/tag/avator
[03:54] <cpk1> user tell me the full path of something you want to copy to the sata?
[03:55] <cpk1> Hobbsee: heh, well i suppose that will make some people sleep easier =)
[03:55] <user__> dude im just as confused as you
[03:55] <user__> lol
[03:55] <Hobbsee> cpk1: heh.  yes
[03:55] <Hobbsee> cpk1: actually, i'm surprised they didnt get that update months ago, when it was first out
[03:55] <user__> im copying from here: /media/eva02-1/HDD02-TVanime
[03:55] <Hobbsee> in fact, i'm not convinced that they didnt.
[03:56] <user__> its external, dont get confused
[03:56] <user__> its my old system to the new
[03:56] <KalakChiPetra> im drunk, I get confuzzled easily
[03:57] <cpk1> user__: so sudo cp /media/eva02-1/HDD02-TVanime /media/eva01/HDD02-TVanime doesnt work?
[03:57] <Jucato> Hobbsee: thanks for replying to the thread. :)
[03:57] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/bugs/84084
[03:58] <Jucato> O.O
[03:58] <cpk1> Hobbsee: lol, some guy in #ubuntu was complaining about that earlier today
[03:58] <darkholme> hi everybody
[03:58] <Hobbsee> cpk1: about supertux?
[03:58] <underdog5004> awww, why's supertux unstable?
[03:59] <darkholme> I have a question I hope you'll know the answer:
[03:59] <cpk1> Hobbsee: yeah, he said that if you dont have 3d acceleration dont get .3
[03:59] <Hobbsee> underdog5004: it's a snapshot release
[03:59] <cpk1> and i was thinking the whole time "its a 2d game"
[03:59] <underdog5004> !snapshot
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snapshot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <user__> cpk1:  thats thru terminal though, thats the prob, i need to get this functional thru konqueror
[03:59] <underdog5004> Is that for devs?
[03:59] <cpk1> user__: so that works?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> underdog5004: not really.  it works, but isnt final
[03:59] <user__> i didnt try it because im not copying the whole file
[04:00] <cpk1> user__: try copying something from your home directory into eva01
[04:00] <user__> obviously things can be written from terminal to the drive
[04:00] <user__> ok one sec
[04:00] <cpk1> without using sudo btw
[04:01] <cpk1> lol, i just now thought of closing adept notifier haha
[04:01] <deathnote> well anyone know what's the command to mount the sda1 which allow for all user rights?
[04:01] <user__> cpk1: nope, no go
[04:01] <user__> i cannot drag and drop
[04:01] <cpk1> been bugging me all day
[04:01] <deathnote> maybe that can help user__
[04:01] <kari> can someone give me a source for w32 codecs ?  the one I found is deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free    and it's not working  :(
[04:01] <user__> and i connot create files
[04:01] <darkholme> i have a problem installing kubuntu...I have tried all the cds I mean alternate, live cd, install etc....the problem is that my computer is not running the setup.....the computer is configure to boot from the cd but it is not launching this setup....I have tried with other distros and it's ok but with Kubuntu edgy it's not working...somebody told me that's maybe because my computer is not recognizing "iso linux" so he told me to create a 3 1/2 disc to boo
[04:02] <user__> cpk1: sorry for bugging you man, i really appreciate the help
[04:02] <user__> after this issue, i wont really ever have any issues i hope
[04:02] <kari> does anyone have a source for me to get  w32 codecs ?
[04:02] <jarn> Who makes the packages that are in the ubuntu repos?
[04:03] <user__> everything else is pretty straight forward except this mounting business....  never fails, problems everytime i try
[04:03] <Hobbsee> jarn: multiple people.  what in particular is your question?
[04:03] <Jucato> jarn: depends on which part of the repos
[04:03] <Gretl> !restricted | kari
[04:03] <ubotu> kari: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:03] <cpk1> you can try mounting with sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/sda1 /media/eva01
[04:03] <deathnote> user__: ahh..for u i'll plug in my ipod and see what's the mount
[04:03] <deathnote> brb
[04:03] <jarn> Well, I would like to make a suggestion that the package for Amarok be compiled with MTP support, since it would be really nice and a lot of people have MTP mp3 players.
[04:04] <user__> hahaha lol thanks man
[04:04] <jarn> And I was wondering where to do that.
[04:04] <darkholme> :8
[04:04] <darkholme> :(
[04:04] <kari> I went through the ubotu sites and the one link for supositories is not working :(
[04:04] <user__> cpk1: mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/eva01 busy
[04:04] <Hobbsee> Jucato: does in feisty, i think it does in edgy too
[04:04] <user__> cpk1: mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/eva01
[04:04] <jarn> No, it doesn't.
[04:05] <jarn> You have to compile it with it.
[04:05] <Jucato> jarn: have you tried upgrading to Amarok 1.4.5?
[04:05] <user__> cp it put out those 2 lines
[04:05] <Hobbsee> right.  does in feisty then.
[04:05] <deathnote> user__ can u type "id user" and paste for me?
[04:05] <cpk1> user__: obviously you have to unmount it first, sudo umount /media/eva01
[04:05] <jarn> With special flags.
[04:05] <kari> I guess no one here watches avi's dvds mpegs on their linux machine  :)
[04:05] <jarn> Jucato: I haven't used the 1.4.5 from the repos, but I know 1.4.3 was not compiled with MTP support.
[04:06] <Jucato> jarn: Amarok 1.4.5 form the kubuntu.org repos might already have that
[04:06] <cpk1> kari: i do, and i followed the ubuntu wiki
[04:06] <Jucato> kari: install libxine-extracodecs as the wiki instructed
[04:06] <user__> deathnote: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4811/
[04:06] <user__> i dunno what that will do
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Jucato: 1.4.5 from kubuntu.org repos definetly should.
[04:07] <kari> trying again
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Jucato: seeing as that's just feisty backported
[04:07] <kari> thanks guys
[04:07] <jarn> Hobbsee: I'll take a look. But I KNOW that 1.4.3 didn't.
[04:07] <Jucato> Hobbsee: ah. jarn did you hear that ^^^
[04:07] <Hobbsee> jarn: yes.  hence the suggested upgreade.
[04:07] <cpk1> dapper people use 1.4.3
[04:07] <jarn> Indeed.
[04:07] <Hobbsee> er, upgrade
[04:07] <K`zan> I've got the builtin sound card on /dev/mixer and the USB headset on /dev/mixer1.  How can I get the output from tvtime (hardwired into /dev/mixer CD input)?  TIA!
[04:07] <deathnote> user__: ok i got it
[04:07] <jarn> Hobbsee: They just released 1.4.5 a few days ago... :P
[04:07] <Hobbsee> jarn: true.  there are packages for it too :P
[04:07] <jarn> Hobbsee: So up until a few days ago, everyone used 1.4.3.
[04:08] <user__> deathnote: you know whats wrong!?!?!
[04:08] <user__> ?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> jarn: what happened to 1.4.4, which also included mtp support?
[04:08] <jarn> Hobbsee: Oh, hrm, I missed that I guess.
[04:08] <Jucato> in Amarok itself, I mean
[04:08] <Hobbsee> Jucato: or it was majorly fixed then, yeah.  something like that
[04:08] <cpk1> just noticed i am on 1.4.3 =\
[04:09] <cpk1> user__: did you mount it with defaults?
[04:09] <Hobbsee> cpk1: yes.  we cant backport versions thru -updates
[04:09] <Hobbsee> :(
[04:10] <user__> cpk1: yup they were all mounted with defaults, as the onlne guide said to do so
[04:11] <K`zan> Is there anything like a patch panel where I can route various inputs to a specific output?
[04:11] <kari> Jucato Thanks !!!!!  it's finally working, I can watch tv and watch files  cheers mate
[04:12] <Jucato> no problem
[04:12] <kari> all I have to do now is look for another problem to solve :)
[04:13] <user__> this sucks,,,, i think i may have to cross over into windows and format the drives to ntfs to test and go thru all this garbage again
[04:13] <user__> frick
[04:13] <jarn> Hrm.
[04:13] <jarn> I just installed the Amarok from the repos and it won't start up.
[04:13] <kari> maybe not .. I think i'll sit back and enjoy the latest triumph :)
[04:13] <kari> 
[04:13] <jarn> A box in the middle of the screen appears for a second then dissapears.
[04:13] <jarn> No erros in the terminal.
[04:14] <user__> does ubuntu auto mount and auto detect?
[04:14] <user__> personanlly i like kde way better, but this is a critical issue
[04:14] <user__> and for some reason there is no sudo command like sudo remove damned permissions
[04:14] <user__> that would be great
[04:15] <Hobbsee> jarn: move .kde/share/apps/amarok and .kde/share/config/amarok*
[04:15] <Hobbsee> out of the way
[04:15] <Hobbsee> then it starts
[04:15] <Hobbsee> (config files appear not to be compatible)
[04:16] <jarn> Ah.
[04:16] <jarn> How odd.
[04:16] <d0uglas> Got a laptop with a 64 bit chip, got a 32 bit kubuntu disk. Can i do an install that'll take advantage of the 64bit chip by, i guess, apt getting the right kernel or do i need to download the right 64 bit install disk
[04:17] <cpk1> he left...
[04:17] <Hobbsee> d0uglas: the latter.
[04:17] <d0uglas> damn.
[04:18] <d0uglas> k
[04:18] <cpk1> cant have been too important if he is going to give up that easily
[04:18] <deathnote> what's the command to mount with uid=1000 and gid=1000 ?
[04:18] <deathnote> couldn't find
[04:18] <fignew> mount as roo
[04:18] <fignew> root*
[04:19] <d0uglas> lspci says Broadcom Unknown Device 4311 (rev 01).. can i ndiswrap my way out of this or should i exchange this laptop
[04:19] <Jucato> !away > Sess-away
[04:20] <Sess-away> sorry jucato
[04:20] <Sess-away> damn it
[04:20] <Kamui> there, I wont do it anymore :)
[04:20] <jarn> 1.4.5 does not seem to have MTP support packaged with it.
[04:20] <Jucato> :)
[04:20] <fignew> d0uglas: no need to exchange... even if drivers don't exist you can change out the minipci wireless card
[04:20] <jarn> Or atleast, it's not recognizing my MTP player.
[04:22] <jarn> Anyone know?
[04:23] <cpk1> oh my, after getting more repos from easy source I have 162 megs worth of downloads now
[04:24] <deathnote> oh i got it..but he's gone
[04:25] <crimsun> jarn: check the output from apt-cache showsrc amarok |grep ^Build |grep libmtp-dev >/dev/null ; echo $?
[04:25] <theshadow> please tell me someone here has used umbrello?
[04:27] <Hobbsee> crimsun: the fact that libmtp2 doesnt seem to be a dep of even feisty's amarok worries me.
[04:28] <pgdown> does anyone have trouble fastforwarding/rewinding with VLC?
[04:28] <CaseyOmah> I changed monitors on my system and now I can't get into X. what is a CLI for res change in X?
[04:29] <jarn> crimsun: Ah, I had 1.4.4 installed instead of 1.4.5. Apparently amarok-latest hasn't been updated to 1.4.5, when I changed it to amarok-145 I got it.
[04:32] <crimsun> Hobbsee: amarok is in depwait for libmtp 0.1.3 to be binary NEWed
[04:32] <Jucato> heh... dev talk...
[04:33] <Jucato> didn't even make a single sense :P
[04:33] <Hobbsee> crimsun: for 1.4.5?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> crimsun: fun
[04:33] <crimsun> Jucato: "The latest amarok source upload is waiting for the latest libmtp upload to be accepted by the Ubuntu archive admins"
[04:34] <Jucato> crimsun: hehe thanks :)
[04:34] <Jucato> crimsun: although the way you said it first looks kooler :)
[04:35] <revdjenk> CaseyOmah: i am researching your question
[04:35] <pgdown> what video player do you guy use?
[04:35] <pgdown> vlc is driving me crazy...
[04:35] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm bah, my amarok 1.4.5 running on Kubuntu feisty wont build its database... it will create its database and tables but then it wont fill them with any informations
[04:35] <Captain_Redbeard> no matter the permissions of the file it's searching for etc
[04:36] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: that bug has already been fixed. Use a more current mirror.
[04:36] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: uhm ok? what repo is it in?
[04:36] <cpk1> pgdown: i usually use kaffeine
[04:37] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: dpkg -l amarok|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[04:37] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: and when was it fixed?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Captain_Redbeard: days ago
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Captain_Redbeard: edgy or feisty?
[04:37] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmmm
[04:37] <Captain_Redbeard> feisty
[04:37] <crimsun> Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:36:32 +0100.
[04:37] <Captain_Redbeard> uh... then it's very odd if it's not in my repo
[04:38] <cpk1> can aptitude show changes to packages you are thiking about upgrading?
[04:38] <crimsun> cpk1: 'changelog'
[04:38] <Captain_Redbeard> my repos are archive.ubuntu.com should be updated no?
[04:39] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: when did you last update && upgrade?
[04:39] <cpk1> crimsun: well that is overly simple =P too bad i cant fetch the url =(
[04:39] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: 2 hours ago :p
[04:39] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: which backend are you using?
[04:40] <Captain_Redbeard> apt-get usually
[04:40] <crimsun> no, amarokcollection backend
[04:40] <crimsun> sqlite? mysql? postgresql?
[04:40] <Captain_Redbeard> ah
[04:40] <Captain_Redbeard> mysql
[04:40] <Captain_Redbeard> tried sqlite too with no luck
[04:41] <revdjenk> CaseyOmah: are you still here?
[04:41] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: I just created a new one just fine using mysql
[04:41] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: uploaded to?
[04:42] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: err, come again?
[04:42] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: I just created a new amarokcollection using the mysql backend
[04:42] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: sounded like you compiled a new amarok package that is working fine with mysql... was I wrong?
[04:42] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: ah! :)
[04:43] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: well mine is still refusing to build anything :/
[04:43] <crimsun> fresh feisty or dist-upgraded?
[04:44] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: fresh
[04:44] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: amd64 btw...
[04:44] <crimsun> what was your starting point? Mine was Herd-3.
[04:44] <Captain_Redbeard> so was mine
[04:45] <Captain_Redbeard> blew it fresh just a couple of days ago...
[04:45] <crimsun> well, I'd try to debug further, but I need to get back to work
[04:45] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: thank you for your attention anyway mate
[04:45] <revdjenk> CaseyOmah:   You need to use 'dpkg-reconfigure' command which reconfigures packages
[04:46] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: try starting with amarok afresh
[04:46] <crimsun> meaning:
[04:46] <revdjenk> just like when first installatiion
[04:47] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: already done it a zillion times i'm afraid :(
[04:47] <crimsun> mv ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok.bak && mv ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc.bak
[04:47] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: yup done it :/
[04:48] <crimsun> Captain_Redbeard: have you enabled logging in /etc/mysql/my.cnf, restarted mysql, done the above, and tried?
[04:48] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: not logging no, I kinda figured it's something messed up with amarok since it doesn't work with sqlite either... but I can give it a go
[04:48] <crimsun> I can now vouch that all three backends work from a fresh 1.4.5 install
[04:48] <crimsun> [2:1.4.5-0ubuntu2, that is] 
[04:49] <crimsun> none of my collection is on an smb share, however
[04:49] <Captain_Redbeard> uhm uhm
[04:49] <Captain_Redbeard> 1.4.5-0ubuntu1
[04:49] <crimsun> uh yeah.
[04:49] <crimsun> see what sarah and I said above kthx.
[04:50] <crimsun> it's bug 83454 if you're wondering
[04:50] <blortch> hm.  weird.
[04:50] <blortch> can't say i like konversation.  back to xchat.
[04:50] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: ah :) But then it's weird that I can't upgrade the package and it's not reported outdated
[04:51] <crimsun> it's definitely available. Anyhow, I've to return to work.
[04:51] <Captain_Redbeard> crimsun: yea I wont keep you any longer, thank you for your help man
[04:51] <zblach> hibernation gives me a -16 error. it fails to shutdown some usb device. what can I do to remedy this?
[04:59] <MagicFab> join #kubuntu
[04:59] <MagicFab> oups :)
[04:59] <MagicFab> what would be the package for the Printer system settings in KDE ?
[05:00] <draik> Ok
[05:00] <draik> So I have realized 1 of 2 thingws
[05:00] <draik> err
[05:00] <draik> things
[05:01] <draik> Either I'm going to be very busy for a while or just going out of my mind
[05:01] <MagicFab> actually... "printers" in  'system settings'
[05:01] <deathnote> hi what's the best ssh tool for windows ?
[05:01] <draik> deathnote: I'm using ummm... lemme check
[05:02] <draik> deathnote: rdesktop
[05:02] <draik> !rdesktop | deathnote
[05:02] <ubotu> deathnote: rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[05:02] <ScottK> deathnote: I always liked using ssh itself with cygwin.
[05:02] <draik> deathnote: We also use rDesktop at work whenever we need to remote into the linux box from win
[05:03] <draik> So yea... where was I?...
[05:03] <deathnote> draik: oh..ok thanks i'll try
[05:03] <draik> Oh yea
[05:03] <draik> np deathnote
[05:03] <draik> I need some major input on this
[05:03] <draik> I am planning on creating a big computer central
[05:04] <deathnote> is it free? rdp
[05:04] <draik> I want to have 8 computers hooked up to one keyboard/mouse/monitor
[05:04] <draik> deathnote: Yes
[05:04] <deathnote> i try to search rdp .. but not sure which one u talking.. u know which link to d/l ?
[05:04] <deathnote> remote desktop connection or
[05:04] <draik> I was planning on 9 desktops, but I could only find a KVM by multiples of 2 so there you have it
[05:05] <draik> deathnote: sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[05:05] <deathnote> draik: i need it for windows
[05:05] <deathnote> as in.. windows ssh client
[05:05] <cpk1> draik: you should be able to get bigger KVM's but they start getting expensive
[05:05] <draik> deathnote: ZIP! Sorry, can't help you there
[05:06] <deathnote> ah?
[05:06] <draik> cpk1: I originally wanted to set it up so that I could have a 3x3 monitor type thing
[05:06] <deathnote> what's rDesktop? is it a client for windows to log into linux?
[05:06] <draik> Each one has their own monitor and such
[05:06] <deathnote> what's rDesktop? is it a client for windows to log into linux via ssh ?
[05:07] <bonbonthejon> deathnote: you use putty in windows for ssh
[05:07] <cpk1> draik: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817404007
[05:07] <draik> Then I came to the conclusion that I want them to have their own monitor, but also wanted 1 of my own monitors so that I can just move from one to the other
[05:07] <cpk1> draik: wait, you want to use more than one monitor?
[05:07] <draik> Thank you cpk1
[05:07] <draik> Yuppers
[05:07] <deathnote> ojh putty ok
[05:07] <deathnote> how u use putty ? just putty hostname?
[05:08] <bonbonthejon> deathnote: did you download putty
[05:08] <cpk1> draik: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817107254 thats a little more of what you want
[05:08] <cpk1> but note the price =O
[05:08] <draik> thank you
[05:08] <draik> let me see
[05:10] <draik> Hmmm
[05:10] <draik> I dunnot
[05:10] <draik> *dunno
[05:11] <draik> Because my idea has gone from 9 computers to 8 computers, 1 Keyboard, 1 mouse, 9 monitors (8x 15in flat screens, 1x 21in flat screen)
[05:12] <pulaski> hello
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> hi
[05:12] <pulaski> I'm having trouble connecting to a repository using apt-get
[05:12] <draik> cpk1: But with the last link you sent me, I might be able to stick with 9 computers
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> pulaski: post the erro
[05:12] <draik> and have 1 monitor as my main
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> r
[05:13] <pulaski> thanks
[05:13] <cpk1> draik: if you can afford almost $300 US for something like that then more power to you =D
[05:13] <draik> I can
[05:13] <pulaski> http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (88.191.33.6), connection timed out
[05:13] <draik> cpk1: I know my fiance will just look at me and be like, WTF?!?!?!
[05:14] <pulaski> I don't think its serious just the server is down? perhaps I should try later...
[05:14] <cpk1> draik: I know the feeling XD
[05:14] <cpk1> and the reaction from the SO
[05:14] <draik> Yup
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> pulaski: yeah
[05:15] <pulaski> thanks bobothejon
[05:15] <draik> In all reality she'll probably just call me a kid and let me do my thing
[05:15] <draik> pulaski: BoBo is a clown. He's BonBon
[05:15] <cpk1> i try not to say *exactly* how much I spent
[05:16] <pulaski> good enough for me.  Thanks bonbonthejon
[05:16] <Nuked> how do I set conky so that it doesnt overlap my icons?
[05:16] <draik> cpk1: In case I missed it, Thank you for your quick research
[05:16] <pulaski> sorry
[05:16] <bonbonthejon> pulaski: :)
[05:16] <cpk1> draik: no problem, i was thinking about using kvms a while back but they get expensive real quick
[05:16] <pulaski> cya
[05:17] <Nuked> so how do I do that? any ideas?
[05:18] <frood> How can I get the bouncing cow screen saver back. It isn't on 6.10
[05:18] <draik> frood: Let me know when you find it. That sounds interesting
[05:19] <draik> cpk1: I think the hardest of it all will be the fact that one of them will be my webserver
[05:20] <frood> They removed it because people found it 'offensive'
[05:20] <revdjenk> that is 'udderly' ridiculous
[05:21] <draik> LOL @ revdjenk
[05:21] <draik> How is a bouncing cow "offensive"?
[05:22] <revdjenk> reminded ppl of New Orlean Mardi Gras?
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> that was a good screen saver
[05:23] <Kamui> is there a command line utility that I can use to batch convert a ton of video files into dvd suitable video?
[05:23] <Kamui> or a command line utility that I can use to convert a single file? (then I can write a shell script to handle batch jobs)
[05:24] <theshadow> I'm having an issue I'm not sure my Radeon x800 mobility is being used correctly (at least the hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be there) when I run fglrxinfo I get the following response
[05:24] <draik> cpk1: http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/product_info.php?products_id=373297
[05:24] <theshadow> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". display: :0.0  screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[05:24] <theshadow> can anyone give me a hand?
[05:24] <Kamui> theshadow: turn composite off for starters
[05:24] <bonbonthejon> Kamui: hold on, I know I had seen a program for that
[05:25] <Kamui> that got my radeon working using fglrx with accelleration
[05:25] <draik> well, I think I might know why it's not on the new version 6.10
[05:25] <adwelin> i need a tutorial on kde
[05:25] <draik> The cow's flashed a flaccid penis
[05:25] <theshadow> Kamui: how do I turn it off?
[05:25] <Kamui> theshadow: add this tot he end of your xorg.conf
[05:25] <Kamui> Section "Extensions"
[05:25] <Kamui>         Option      "Composite" "Disable"
[05:25] <Kamui> EndSection
[05:25] <Kamui> then restart your xserver
[05:26] <theshadow> ok
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> Kamui: look into mencode
[05:26] <Kamui> bonbonthejon: sweet!
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> Kamui: mencoder*
[05:26] <Kamui> I've been trying to use devede with very little success
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> draik: I dont remember that part of the cow screen saver
[05:27] <draik> Let me get you the link bonbonthejon
[05:27] <Nuked> ok lets try something different... how do I make conky show hddtemp if my hd is /dev/sda3?
[05:27] <draik> "In particular, people pointed out a "flaccid penis" label/option in the glsnake screensaver, the bouncing cow screensaver, and some chemistry models of drug ..."
[05:28] <draik> bonbonthejon: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/cc-meeting-special-20041018-summary.html
[05:28] <Nuked> NO one knows?
[05:28] <bonbonthejon> draik:  I remember the drug model
[05:30] <Nuked> my god, getting help is like pulling teeth sometimes
[05:31] <valuedcustomer> hello.  how do i disable guidance-powermanager from running at startup?
[05:31] <cpk1> draik: that only has one monitor output though
[05:31] <revdjenk> hah, draik
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> Nuked: I've never heard of conky, I just looked it up
[05:31] <cpk1> but it is alot cheaper =)
[05:31] <Nuked> bonbonthejon, at least you looked :)
[05:32] <bonbonthejon> Nuked: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/conky-a-light-weight-system-monitor-for-ubuntu-linux-systems.html looks like it shows the configuration file
[05:32] <draik> revdjenk: ???
[05:32] <revdjenk> flaccid penis would make a good name for a band
[05:32] <bonbonthejon> Nuked: conky looks like its for gnome, why not use something for KDE
[05:32] <draik> LOL
[05:32] <Nuked> its independent of both
[05:32] <Nuked> LMAO @ revdjenk
[05:33] <revdjenk> hey draik, Nuked you on lappy?
[05:33] <revdjenk> I need help with my rt2500
[05:33] <draik> well, there is a song called "Detachable Penis" by King Missile
[05:33] <draik> revdjenk: I'm on both. Desktop for everything but chats
[05:33] <Nuked> revdjenk, no
[05:33] <draik> revdjenk: why?
[05:33] <cpk1> Nuked: you could look into superkaramba apps for system monitors
[05:34] <Nuked> bonbonthejon, that config was useless but thank you for the effort
[05:34] <revdjenk> well, when I try to enable, the computer almost slows to a stop
[05:34] <cpk1> Nuked: also gkrellm is nice and lightweight
[05:34] <draik> enable what?
[05:34] <revdjenk> seems to work in 2-4 second spurts
[05:34] <Kamui> bonbonthejon: question, can I make svcd movie files, but put them on a dvd to store MORE videos?
[05:34] <Nuked> cpk1, I put work into translating the conky config and customized it quite nicely
[05:34] <theshadow> Alright... I can't tell a difference how can I check if the hardware acceleration is working?
[05:34] <revdjenk> enable wifi
[05:34] <Kamui> bonbonthejon: or do I just have to encode at a lower video bitrate
[05:35] <Nuked> !glxinfo
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glxinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <Nuked> !glx
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <Nuked> that sucks
[05:35] <draik> Sorry, revdjenk, I don't use wifi
[05:35] <revdjenk> yep
[05:35] <cpk1> Nuked: well you can put work into the superkaramba widgets to customize them =p hehe, but i know nothing about conky
[05:35] <revdjenk> ah
[05:35] <bonbonthejon> Kamui: I never made a DVD, I just knew it was used to convert movies
[05:36] <revdjenk> I have to re-boot to get back to normal
[05:36] <Nuked> cpk1, thanks
[05:36] <Nuked> here is what im talking about
[05:36] <Nuked> dev, (host,(port))
[05:36] <theshadow> yea I don't think its working I ran glxgears and its moving slower than dirt
[05:36] <Nuked> so hddtemp dev, (host,(port))
[05:36] <theshadow> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:36] <theshadow> and I'm getting that error
[05:36] <Nuked> do I leave dev as is, remove it, or add the location of the drive I want to monitor
[05:37] <Kamui> bonbonthejon: ok, well thanks, Im trying a batch command now, looks like this is gonna be an overnight job... ;)
[05:37] <Nuked> this sucks
[05:42] <theshadow> !fglrx
[05:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:48] <siconsole> hi guys..help i got this error ->
[05:48] <siconsole> GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:135: failed to allocate 1864512424 bytes
[05:48] <siconsole> aborting...
[05:48] <siconsole> Aborted (core dumped)
[05:48] <siconsole> after i uninstall amarok
[06:01] <AxlRose> is there a way to adjust the volume in Adobe Flash player
[06:10] <theshadow> !fglrx
[06:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <theshadow> Ok I don't get this. when I run "fglrxinfo" it shows libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering display: :0.0  screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[06:27] <theshadow> but when I run "sudo fglrxinfo" it says display: :0.0  screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string:  Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
[06:27] <theshadow> what am I doing?
[06:27] <theshadow> wrong?
[06:31] <AxlRose> is there a way to adjust the volume in Adobe Flash player
[06:32] <theshadow> AxlRose: No... its really annoying
[06:32] <AxlRose> theshadow:  definately.  I was trying to watch a couple of different things...and I had my speakers all the way up and i could barely hear  it
[06:33] <theshadow> AxlRose: whats worse is that I think when they convert it to flash video format that it sometimes screws up the audio levels causing those kinds of things
[06:54] <deathnote> hi, can anyone tell me how i check who is log into my system from ssh???
[06:54] <deathnote> is there a log or something
[06:56] <deathnote> anyone there?
[06:57] <underdog5004> deathnote, lemme google around...
[06:58] <underdog5004> deathnote, http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/log_message_reference.html
[06:58] <AxlRose> anyone here know much about the fortune program
[06:58] <underdog5004> !fortune
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <underdog5004> AxlRose, what is it used for?
[06:59] <AxlRose> underdog5004: it displays little fortune cookie sayings haha
[06:59] <underdog5004> rofl, what's the problem you're having?
[07:00] <AxlRose> no problem...i just wondering how to get it to show up on login with Konsole
[07:00] <AxlRose> i know it's possible because on slackware it does
[07:00] <underdog5004> I believe you can get it to start by putting a symlink  in /home/username/.kde/startup
[07:01] <underdog5004> not sure about the path, though....
[07:01] <underdog5004> oh, looks like it's only for CLI...
[07:01] <deathnote> thanks underdog reading now
[07:02] <underdog5004> deathnote, np
[07:02] <AxlRose> ya...I wanted it for Konsole
[07:02] <dawn> is there a good flv player?
[07:02] <AxlRose> like when you open konsole
[07:02] <AxlRose> no biggy though
[07:02] <AxlRose> dawn: I use mplayer
[07:02] <underdog5004> AxlRose, hmm, each time you open one up?
[07:02] <dawn> k
[07:02] <alvincev> Do I have to go to the command line interface to change the screen resolution in Kubuntu?
[07:02] <underdog5004> alvincev, nope, just use the gui
[07:02] <deathnote> underdog5004: i don't understand..are there any logs?
[07:02] <AxlRose> underdog5004: yes
[07:03] <AxlRose> alincev: go to system settings
[07:03] <underdog5004> deathnote, lol, lemme read those pages...
[07:03] <alvincev> I couldn't find the section for screen resolution in System Settings
[07:03] <alvincev> Never mind
[07:03] <alvincev> I found it
[07:04] <firecrotch> deathnote: /var/log/auth.log
[07:04] <dawn> hmmmm mplayer not working for me
[07:04] <dawn> :()(
[07:04] <underdog5004> deathnote, ok, are you looking to find what commands they are running or just login attempts
[07:04] <dawn> :(\
[07:04] <deathnote> is it /var/log/lastlog ?
[07:04] <AxlRose> dawn: it doesn't work for anything or just flv
[07:04] <deathnote> underdog5004: hopefully both.. like..erm..when and what time they logged in
[07:04] <deathnote> and perhaps the ip addresses
[07:05] <unix_infidel> it should be in logs.
[07:05] <firecrotch> deathnote: auth.log will show the IP and time
[07:05] <dawn> I downloaded some flv clips
[07:05] <AxlRose> dawn: yes...but does mplayer play other videos
[07:05] <deathnote> ooo ok but seems like no ip addresses
[07:06] <unix_infidel> deathnote: who would tell you who is logged in.
[07:06] <unix_infidel> it will present you with their reverse DNS.
[07:06] <dawn> yes
[07:06] <underdog5004> deathnote, I don't know, but if you're looking for the commands executed, then check out the .bash_history in the home folder
[07:06] <dawn> kaffeine works :)
[07:06] <unix_infidel> erm, `who`
[07:06] <deathnote> ohhh
[07:06] <unix_infidel> ^notice the backtick
[07:07] <deathnote> ok who is good
[07:07] <unix_infidel> you can parse their Rev DNS by grep.
[07:07] <unix_infidel> and then you can find out who is logged in from a remote domain.
[07:07] <unix_infidel> just pipe it :)
[07:07] <deathnote> great.. .bash_history does it..thanks
[07:07] <underdog5004> yay, I helped!
[07:08] <unix_infidel> deathnote: i think `w` is what you're more looking for.
[07:08] <dawn> dawn no sound
[07:08] <dawn> Darn
[07:08] <unix_infidel> its a much more detailed account of your user activity.
[07:08] <unix_infidel> you who as a simple display to tell which users are remote and which are local,
[07:09] <AxlRose> dawn: i still say use mplayer
[07:10] <deathnote> what's the ftp port?
[07:10] <unix_infidel> 21
[07:10] <deathnote> by default is the ftp server on?
[07:11] <Wii> DANIR ?
[07:11] <deathnote> my ssh is up for pple to ssh in from port 22
[07:11] <deathnote> not sure if ftp
[07:11] <unix_infidel> i just told you above.
[07:11] <underdog5004> I think the ssh server is on by default...
[07:11] <underdog5004> deathnote, what's your ip?
[07:12] <alvincev> I'm trying to change the screen resolution on my desktop, and I am at the "Monitor & Display - System Setting", when I hit the 'Adminitrator Mode...' button, a red box shows up, but it doesn't ask me for my password.  Has anybody ever run into this?
[07:12] <unix_infidel> 210.193.58.175
[07:12] <unix_infidel> underdog5004: ^^^
[07:12] <underdog5004> mind if I come in?
[07:12] <unix_infidel> that's his IP
[07:13] <deathnote> underdog5004: wait.. hehe i've port forward
[07:13] <deathnote> ok
[07:13] <deathnote> should be 210.193.58.175
[07:13] <deathnote> u try ssh
[07:13] <deathnote> i see if i can see the auth.log
[07:13] <unix_infidel> WHOA!
[07:13] <_jrivera> alvincev, a popup will show and it will ask for your root password before you could get in administrator mode...
[07:13] <unix_infidel> do not let anonymous users ssh into your system!
[07:13] <underdog5004> lol, connection closed by remote host...
[07:13] <alvincev> actually, it just sits there and no popup shows up, but it shows up when I hit the button on the other settings
[07:14] <unix_infidel> http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=189.0
[07:14] <unix_infidel> Try using that tutorial.
[07:14] <unix_infidel> Or for casual tests http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=221.0
[07:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a free unraring program for kubuntu?
[07:16] <AxlRose> dawn: what part of mplayer doesn't work fo ru
[07:16] <OlgaB> I'm trying to get a relatively old USB camera to work in linux
[07:21] <AxlRose> dettoaltrimenti_: unrar
[07:21] <firecrotch> OlgaB: Is it a mass storage device camera?
[07:22] <OlgaB> firecrotch: I'm not sure, apparently it's a Largan Chameleon XP
[07:22] <ubuntu> hola
[07:22] <ubuntu> algn venezolano?
[07:22] <AxlRose> uh oh it's got xp in the name....that means it's unsupported :P
[07:22] <OlgaB> :p
[07:23] <ubuntu> o venezolana?
[07:23] <ubuntu> preferiblemente venezolana
[07:23] <ubuntu> jaja
[07:23] <Jucato> English only please
[07:23] <ubuntu> weno alguien que hable espaol?
[07:24] <underdog5004> yo puedo
[07:24] <underdog5004> !es
[07:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:24] <ubuntu> somebody can speak spanish?
[07:24] <Jucato> ubuntu: ^^^
[07:24] <ubuntu> hola underdog
[07:24] <underdog5004> ubuntu, necisitas hacer esta: /join #kubuntu-es
[07:24] <firecrotch> OlgaB: plug it in to the computer and give us the output of tail dmesg
[07:25] <unix_infidel> !es
[07:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:25] <unix_infidel> oh wow, i need to increase the size of my buffer, sorry :(
[07:27] <inteliwasp> !qt
[07:27] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[07:27] <OlgaB> can I paste messages?
[07:27] <inteliwasp> !gui
[07:27] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[07:27] <underdog5004> !pastebin
[07:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <OlgaB> three lines
[07:27] <Jucato> OlgaB: use pastebin ^^^
[07:28] <inteliwasp> i am not shure witch qt version i need, 3 or 4   i am useing 6.061
[07:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a free unraring program for kubuntu?
[07:28] <OlgaB> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4822/plain/
[07:29] <Jucato> inteliwasp: for what?
[07:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> unrar is not free
[07:29] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: by non-free, it means that unrar isn't released under an open source license.
[07:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh, ok
[07:30] <inteliwasp> Jucato: some insanely dependant program... it says it needs> = Qt 3.2
[07:30] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: everything in the repositories in monetarily free
[07:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> so free as in beer, but not as in freedom
[07:30] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: yes
[07:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> ;) thanks
[07:30] <Jucato> inteliwasp: you are trying to compile something?
[07:30] <inteliwasp> yep
[07:30] <firecrotch> OlgaB: It looks to me as if it isn't a mass storage device
[07:30] <Jucato> inteliwasp: have you installed the "kde-devel" package?
[07:30] <OlgaB> hmm
[07:31] <Jucato> inteliwasp: but you probably only would need libqt3-mt-dev but I'm not entirely sure
[07:31] <inteliwasp> Jucato: not yet
[07:31] <Jucato> inteliwasp: KDE 3.x apps need Qt 3.x. only very very few would use Qt 4
[07:32] <inteliwasp> Jucato: ok, !!! 84 packages!!!
[07:32] <firecrotch> OlgaB: I tried to find a driver for it on Google, but nothing is turning up
[07:32] <OlgaB> :/
[07:33] <Jucato> inteliwasp: hm... try just libqt3-mt-dev, but I'm not sure if it will also ask for kdebase-dev and kdelibs4-dev
[07:33] <inteliwasp> Jucato: it's ok... i'm gonna need them sooner or later
[07:33] <firecrotch> OlgaB: Unfortunately this is one area that Linux is lacking in, simply because manufacturers don't care
[07:34] <Jucato> inteliwasp: if in case you encounter compiling something that complains about X, you need "xorg-dev"
[07:34] <inteliwasp> been there-done that
[07:34] <inteliwasp> :P
[07:34] <Jucato> :P
[07:34] <underdog5004> !proftp | deathnote
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <Jucato> !proftpd
[07:35] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[07:35] <Jucato> underdog5004: ^^^
[07:35] <inteliwasp> btw, is there anything i could do to improve the sound on my box? considering i dont have use onf my mic...
[07:35] <fignew> GRRR ARTSd is pissing me off!
[07:35] <underdog5004> thank you
[07:36] <fignew> sound is completely busted... only works half the time, and only from one app: I've tried to turn it off from the sound options... everything breaks
[07:36] <inteliwasp> huh... i have the same sor of problem, almost fignew
[07:37] <fignew> yea :(
[07:37] <elyon225> Hey everyone.  Just curious if someone could tell me how to install the Quicktime plugin for firefox.
[07:37] <Jucato> elyon225: try one of the mozilla plugins, like mozilla-mplayer
[07:37] <Gretl> perhaps firefox can self install its plugins
[07:38] <Jucato> extensions,yes. plugins, not so sure
[07:38] <elyon225> Gretl: The linux version of Firefox sucks at automatically installing plugins.
[07:39] <elyon225> Jucato: Will give that a shot... thanks.
[07:39] <Jucato> because plugins are programs, and you're basically installing programs... which Firefox itself might not know how...
[07:39] <justMatt> Hey - all my fonts in Konqueror and Firefox are too big, and it is messing with web sites, any issues?
[07:40] <Jucato> justMatt: Firefox has its own font settings. For Konqueror, try Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Fonts
[07:40] <elyon225> Jucato: Hey, you've always been a big help to me.  I have another question.  KWallet has been uninstalled, but I still have applications griping about trying to access it.  Any idea how to prevent that?
[07:40] <inteliwasp> Jucato: um, i compiled the program, where do i find it?
[07:41] <Jucato> inteliwasp: unless you used --prefix=/somewhere/else, it would be in /usr/bin (at least the executable)
[07:41] <inteliwasp> Jucato: hrmm... not there
[07:42] <Jucato> elyon225: kwallet is inclluded in kdelibs. you can't uninstall it, you only uninstalled the manager. anyway, press Alt+F2, kcontrol, Security & Privacy -> KDE Wallet -> uncheck the Enable wallet subsystem
[07:42] <Jucato> inteliwasp: hm... not really sure.. what was the full ./configure command you used?
[07:42] <Jucato> inteliwasp: btw, what did you compile?
[07:43] <inteliwasp> kpodder, and i only used ./configure
[07:43] <OlgaB> brb
[07:43] <Jucato> hm...
[07:43] <inteliwasp> so i need sudo?
[07:44] <Jucato> no...
[07:44] <Wii> ?
[07:44] <inteliwasp> are you familliar with bashpodder?
[07:44] <Jucato> is it an app that you run by itself?
[07:45] <inteliwasp> Jucato: 1 sec...
[07:45] <Jucato> inteliwasp: try this command in Konsole: which kpodder
[07:45] <inteliwasp> Jucato: http://www.leonscape.co.uk/linux/kpodder/
[07:45] <Jucato> yeah I'm there
[07:45] <inteliwasp> nada...
[07:46] <elyon225> Jucato: Hmm...I've looked in KControl and I don't see anything that indicates KWallet.
[07:46] <Jucato> elyon225: KControl -> Security & Privacy -> KDE Wallet ?
[07:46] <inteliwasp> oh wait
[07:46] <inteliwasp> i found it
[07:46] <inteliwasp> i think...
[07:46] <elyon225> Jucato: yeah, the furthest I get is KControl -> Security & Privacy ... there is no entry there fro KDE Wallet.
[07:47] <Jucato> hm...
[07:47] <inteliwasp> nope
[07:47] <elyon225> Only Crypto, Password & User Account, and Privacy.
[07:47] <elyon225> Jucato: And I've looked under each of those... no reference to the wallet.
[07:48] <Jucato> hm....
[07:48] <vinboy_> i download the Feisty CD, how do I upgrade my currently ubuntu to feisty?
[07:48] <Jucato> elyon225: so it's still asking you about kwallet, or just asking you for you password?
[07:49] <firecrotch> vinboy_: First, are you sure you want to? Feisty is still REALLY unstable
[07:49] <Jucato> vinboy_: 1) which installer did you download (Desktop or Alternate) and 2) it's not recommended to upgrade now to Feisty unless you're going to do develoment-related work
[07:49] <inteliwasp> Jucato: i found it...
[07:49] <elyon225> Jucato: For example, when I run Kopete, it will come up and ask for my Kwallet password...
[07:49] <Jucato> like bug hunting, fixing, testing (not for curiosity testing)
[07:49] <Jucato> elyon225: is it asking for your kwallet password or your IM account password?
[07:50] <inteliwasp> Jucato: but there are 2 "kpodder" and "kpodder.sh"
[07:50] <vinboy_> Jucato: i downloaded Desktop
[07:50] <Jucato> vinboy_: you can't use that to upgrade to Feisty
[07:50] <stdin> vinboy_: you can't upgrade from the desktop install cd
[07:50] <Jucato> vinboy_: you can only do a fresh install using that
[07:50] <elyon225> Jucato: It says that Kopete is trying to access the KDE wallet... please enter your wallet password.
[07:51] <Jucato> elyon225: oh.. hm... have you tried running "kwalletmanager"?
[07:51] <Jucato> elyon225: this is getting weird...
[07:51] <elyon225> Jucato: Just did... no such command.
[07:51] <Jucato> inteliwasp: I'm not sure which of the two... are they both in /usr/bin?
[07:51] <underdog5004> I personally hate the Kwallet
[07:51] <vinboy_> oh ic
[07:51] <Jucato> elyon225: sorry, I'm out of ideas
[07:51] <vinboy_> thanks guys
[07:52] <elyon225> Jucato: Just tried running Kopete again, and yep...it says it's trying to access kdewallet.
[07:52] <inteliwasp> Jucato: they are in /usr/local/kde/bin
[07:52] <Jucato> vinboy_: it's also not recommended to use feisty right now... better wait at least until beta
[07:52] <underdog5004> use Edgy
[07:52] <elyon225> Which is so strange, since I never saved passwords to the wallet and have since removed the "kdewallet" package.
[07:52] <Jucato> inteliwasp: ah... try running the "kpodder" one (if it's executable)
[07:52] <elyon225> ...yet another Kubuntu oddity that makes no sense :)
[07:52] <inteliwasp> Jucato: they are both exacutable...
[07:53] <Jucato> inteliwasp: most probably the "kpodder" one
[07:53] <Jucato> ok /me gotta go
[07:53] <vinboy_> Jucato
[07:53] <inteliwasp> bye
[07:53] <vinboy_> Jucato: when is beta coming?
[07:53] <stdin> !feisty
[07:53] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:53] <stdin> vinboy_: look at the schedule
[07:53] <Jucato> vinboy_: see the FeistyReleaseSchedule ^^^^
[07:53] <vinboy_> ok
[07:53] <Jucato> ok bbl
[07:53] <vinboy_> thanks
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: where can I find info about printing in the system settings?
[07:59] <Gretl> Admiral_Chicago: k-menu System printer
[08:00] <_jrivera> kudos to all kubuntu users
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Gretl: trying now
[08:01] <Ayabara> I need help making bluetooth work on my ibm lenovo r60. I the howto, but I can't find any bt devices with hcitool dev. I activated bt with hotkeys after boot. could that be a problem?
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, on Edgy?
[08:01] <_jrivera> i am using kubuntu on my home pc.. its great! i didnt have to install any drivers anymore not like in windows...
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> _jrivera: yup, I love that
[08:02] <_jrivera> its a lot easier and the desktop looks great too..
[08:02] <Ayabara> Admiral_Chicago, I'm on edgy, if the Q was for me :-)
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> Ayabara: no that was my question about printing
[08:03] <borsten> hi
[08:03] <Gretl> Admiral_Chicago: you see all the system settings?
[08:03] <borsten> ive a problem with adept
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Gretl: yes
[08:04] <elyon225> OKay, so here's another silly question:  How would I go about capturing video of my desktop? (Specifically, I'd like to capture Beryl in action for a friend of mine).  What program is used for that?
[08:04] <Gretl> so lets hope it has a printer driver for you that works
[08:04] <borsten> i wanted to install wine, but when i mak it for installation its red and says (break)
[08:05] <underdog5004> !istanbul
[08:05] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[08:05] <underdog5004> that's for you, elyon225 ^^^
[08:05] <elyon225> underdog5004: Thank you.
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> no, i know how to do that. i'm looking for a printer on my LAN
[08:05] <_jrivera> what would be a good firewall software for kubuntu?
[08:06] <theshadow> !beryl
[08:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:06] <stdin> !firewall | _jrivera
[08:06] <ubotu> _jrivera: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:06] <elyon225> underdog5004: Hmm...that's a gnome app.  I'd prefer not to install so many gnome packages... any alternatives?
[08:06] <dettoaltrimenti_> who decides what programs to put in the repositories I see in adept?
[08:06] <underdog5004> no idea...do a apt-cache search
[08:06] <stdin> borsten: close adept, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get isntall wine" if there are errors post them to pastebin
[08:07] <stdin> !pastebin | borsten
[08:07] <ubotu> borsten: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:07] <elyon225> dettoaltrimenti_: That's something I've always wondered about myself.  I'm working on a program that I'd like in the reps eventually... but have no idea who to talk to lol
[08:07] <borsten> thx
[08:08] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti_, elyon225: MOTU (masters of the universe) #ubuntu-motu
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> elyon225: what is the program
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> elyon225: the MOTU really
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> eh whatever, i have my own work to do
[08:08] <Jucato> depends. the core devs decides what goes into main and restricted, while MOTU decides what goes into universe and multiverse
[08:09] <elyon225> Admiral_Chicago: What I'm working on currently is an advanced, yet user-friendly frontend to DosBox...  the frontends I've found so far are pretty pathetic.
[08:10] <_jrivera> is apache, mysql and php pre-installed in kubuntu?? can i install it using apt-get? or do i have to download a package??
[08:10] <devilsadvocate> !lamp _jrivera
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lamp _jrivera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <Jucato> !lamp | _jrivera
[08:10] <ubotu> _jrivera: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:11] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[08:11] <devilsadvocate> ah
[08:11] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: you forgot the pipe
[08:11] <devilsadvocate> typo
[08:11] <devilsadvocate> :)
[08:11] <Jucato> that's what they all say :P
[08:11] <rovern> i have many packages in the apt cache and i want to remove some, but not all. how do i remove only those packages that are not currently installed?
[08:12] <elyon225> Hey, it was just a typo when I ran sudo rm -r / :P
[08:12] <elyon225> ...would that even do anything? lol
[08:12] <stdin> rovern: why would you want to do that?
[08:12] <Jucato> elyon225: please do not give others an idea
[08:12] <rovern> stdin: what is your better idea?
[08:12] <elyon225> Jucato: Apparently it WOULD be a bad thing :P
[08:12] <Jucato> rovern: what do you mean?
[08:13] <stdin> rovern: apt-cache shows the packages that are available to install
[08:13] <rovern> Jucato: apt-get saves all debs that are installed. some of them i uninstalled in the meantime, but the package is still in the cache
[08:13] <stdin> rovern: ahh, "sudo apt-get clean" is what you want
[08:13] <rovern> stdin: my hdd is full and i want to selectively clean some of the debs
[08:13] <Jucato> rovern: sudo apt-get clean <--- will clean the apt cache archives
[08:14] <Wii> DANIR ???
[08:14] <Jucato> there's no need for those debs once installed..
[08:14] <Wii> has anyone seen DANIR ?
[08:14] <devilsadvocate> lol elyon225
[08:14] <devilsadvocate> how is the server cd installation process different in edgy+ ?
[08:14] <rovern> stdin, Jucato: yes, but i want to clean them *selectively*: only those packages that are not installed anymore (which means i am not interested in them)
[08:14] <stdin> rovern: see "man apt-get" for more usage insfo
[08:15] <Jucato> rovern: why? for what do you need the packages for those you installed already?
[08:15] <stdin> rovern: once you install them, why do you need the debs?
[08:15] <rovern> Jucato: to copy them to another machine at a later time
[08:15] <rovern> stdin: to copy them to another machine at a later time
[08:15] <Jucato> hm...
[08:15] <rovern> stdin, Jucato: i hate redownloading, especially on a slow line
[08:16] <borsten> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4825/
[08:16] <Jucato> unfortunately, I don't think that's a solution to what you want to do. merely copying over .debs to another machine won't work the way apt-get'ing them does
[08:17] <rovern> Jucato: it will! i simply copy them to that folder and apt-get will think it has just downloaded them
[08:17] <rovern> Jucato: i trick it
[08:17] <Jucato> hm... if you say so...
[08:17] <Jucato> anyway, I don't know if there's a way to selectively clean the cache...
[08:17] <stdin> borsten: heh, can you run "LANG=C sudo apt-get install wine" , so I get the messages in english :)
[08:17] <devilsadvocate> rovern, are you on a network, a lan of some sort?
[08:17] <Jucato> try the apt-get man page
[08:17] <rovern> Jucato: i've been doing this for weeks, it's just that now there are too many packages and i need some selection
[08:17] <borsten> oh, sorry
[08:17] <rovern> devilsadvocate: yes
[08:18] <devilsadvocate> rovern, you could take a look at http-replicator and apt-proxy
[08:18] <rovern> devilsadvocate: thanks
[08:18] <rovern> Jucato, stdin: thanks
[08:19] <_jrivera> my kubuntu box is not connected to the net and i intend to download packages through my windows pc at work is it ok?
[08:19] <devilsadvocate> rovern, its not what you came asking for, but im on a university network too and we found it was much easier that way
[08:19] <rovern> aha
[08:19] <devilsadvocate> rovern, initiall used http-replicato, now using deb-mirror to just mirror the whole repository
[08:19] <devilsadvocate> because we had enough users to justify it
[08:20] <stdin> _jrivera: yeah, you can use "apt-get --print-uris install <package>" to get apt-get to print the URLs of the debs and where to save them
[08:20] <rovern> i see
[08:20] <devilsadvocate> _jrivera, sure.
[08:20] <borsten> now
[08:20] <rovern> this solution sounds nice
[08:20] <elyon225> So I ordered a bunch of Ubuntu Dapper CD's.  I have a few OLD systems I'd like to install them onto and sell at a garage sale.  Is it a big problem if they have no internet access?
[08:21] <amik> hi
[08:21] <devilsadvocate> rovern, if you are behind a http proxy which requires authentication you will need to change one line in http - replicator
[08:21] <stdin> borsten: use wine, not libwine
[08:21] <rovern> devilsadvocate: i will try to figure it out, thank you
[08:21] <mackinac> approx. how long should it take to load the kubuntu liveCD on a PIII - 1 GHz + 128 MB ram box? ... It has been sitting with the desktop wallpaper and silver bar at the bottom for like ten minutes , cdrom still spinning and reading
[08:21] <amik> say I run apt-get update/upgrade and there are a bunch of updates, how/where can I see a changelog of what's included in these updates?
[08:22] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, i dont think thats enough ram to run the live cd. It'll take too long for comfort
[08:22] <Jucato> !changelogs
[08:22] <ubotu> changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <Jucato> amik: ^^^
[08:22] <stdin> amik: you can use "aptitude changelog <package>" too
[08:22] <Jucato> amik: the next version of Adept will include a changelog viewer
[08:22] <borsten> stdn: now its correct?
[08:22] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, it said 128 was min requirement
[08:22] <Jucato> stdin: lol kool didn't know that :)
[08:22] <_jrivera> how do i get php-mysql, im using kubuntu ryt now...
[08:22] <_jrivera> php-mysql package
[08:22] <amik> 10x a lot guys (what a quick response!) I'll check it out...
[08:22] <Jucato> !lamp | _jrivera
[08:22] <ubotu> _jrivera: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:23] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, .. hmm.. i seem to remember it as 192
[08:23] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, maybe thats just for actual install?
[08:23] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, found it while looking at the man page a while ago
[08:23] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, i doubt it. the install doesnt need ram, the live cd does
[08:24] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, youre saying i could do normal install with zero ram? :p
[08:24] <borsten> stdin: now its correct?
[08:24] <stdin> borsten: it seems you don't have the universe repository enabled
[08:24] <mackinac> just kidding
[08:24] <borsten> ok, ill have a look
[08:24] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, it doesnt need so much ram. It _could_ be done on much less than 128
[08:25] <elyon225> So I ordered a bunch of Ubuntu Dapper CD's.  I have a few OLD systems I'd like to install them onto and sell at a garage sale.  Is it a big problem if they have no internet access?
[08:26] <amik> in changelogs.ubuntu.com I have to check the packages one by one? is there some unified list, or at least a list with links to the individual package changes?
[08:26] <borsten> nope, activated, inkl dep-src
[08:26] <stdin> borsten: you need a line starting "deb" not "deb-src"
[08:27] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, i suggest the alternate install cd for anything less than 256
[08:28] <borsten> thanks, but ive both, "deb", and "dep-scr"
[08:28] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, Okay, thanks!
[08:28] <stdin> amik: it's easier to use aptitude to get the changelog, which just downloads it from the changelog server
[08:29] <devilsadvocate> borsten, the deb-src is needed if you are interested in compileing from sources
[08:29] <borsten> jeah, i know
[08:29] <devilsadvocate> borsten, if you dont want to compile than either way is fine
[08:29] <devilsadvocate> but you need the deb- for the binary
[08:29] <stdin> borsten: so you have a line like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" ? (replace edgy for dapper on a dapper system)
[08:30] <borsten> yeah, ive activated the "deb" too
[08:30] <borsten> ok, wait
[08:31] <borsten> its dapper, but ive made an update yesterday, does this matter?
[08:32] <stdin> no
[08:33] <borsten> hm, then its very strange
[08:33] <devilsadvocate> borsten, you have a dapper install right?
[08:34] <stdin> borsten: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of "lsb_release -c" to pastebin for me
[08:34] <borsten> jeah
[08:34] <deathnote> !proftpd
[08:34] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[08:35] <Jucato> stdin: don't you mean paste the output? :D
[08:36] <stdin> Jucato: huh? isn't that want I said?
[08:36] <Jucato> heh yeah... just not reading properly :P
[08:36] <borsten> lsb_release -c
[08:36] <borsten> sorry, wrong window
[08:37] <devilsadvocate> what is the development environment on kde called.. ? the ide ..
[08:37] <borsten> now
[08:38] <devilsadvocate> ah
[08:38] <stdin> borsten: the url ?
[08:38] <borsten> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4828/
[08:39] <stdin> borsten: ok, you should remove "backports" from "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse backports", then run "sudo apt-get update"
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> borsten, this might sound like a stupid question, but did you run apt-get update?
[08:40] <Jucato> stdin: huh?
[08:40] <Jucato> ah
[08:40] <Jucato> ok didn't see that lol
[08:40] <deathnote> when i run proftpd i get  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'liverpool' error: No address associated with hostname
[08:40] <stdin> Jucato: at the end of the line :)
[08:40] <borsten> no, just the adept-updater
[08:40] <deathnote> my computer name is liverpool.. what does it mean?
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> ah. not sure what the update thingy on adept is :P
[08:41] <underdog5004> deathnote, it means your router isn't configured for IPv6...np
[08:41] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, your hostname is set to 'liverpoo;'
[08:41] <devilsadvocate> liverpool*
[08:41] <deathnote> yup my hostname is liverpool
[08:41] <underdog5004> there are lines you can comment out to stop that.
[08:41] <deathnote> and i don't have ipv6
[08:41] <underdog5004> basically, comment out ipv6 lines in the conf fiel
[08:41] <underdog5004> file
[08:41] <deathnote> u mean in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ?
[08:41] <deathnote> ok
[08:42] <deathnote> no it don't have ipv6 both /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf and module.conf
[08:42] <pontus> I was wondering, today there is an update available for the generic kernel. Why is that? where can I read about changes?
[08:42] <underdog5004> deathnote, I'm looking through mine right now...h/o
[08:42] <Jucato> Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now
[08:43] <Jucato> pontus: ^^
[08:43] <devilsadvocate> pontus, which distro?
[08:43] <pontus> pontus: kubuntu.
[08:43] <stdin> Jucato: script ?
[08:43] <Jucato> stq
[08:43] <Jucato> stdin: command alias :)
[08:43] <devilsadvocate> sorry .. meant release :P . np
[08:43] <stdin> Jucato: nice :P
[08:43] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: affects dapper and edgy
[08:43] <pontus> devilsadvocate: Edgy
[08:44] <Jucato> pontus: read above ^^^
[08:44] <devilsadvocate> Jucato, i havent gotten any update in kernel packages..
[08:44] <pontus> Jucato: ok. so there actually is no update?
[08:44] <borsten> still the same problem
[08:44] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: do you have -security or -updates repositories enabled?
[08:45] <devilsadvocate> Jucato, yes
[08:45] <devilsadvocate> let me run an update now
[08:45] <Jucato> pontus: well, it's a bit technical. but the problem is on the uploading side of the server, not on your system
[08:45] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: packages "hit" are linux-image or linux-headers
[08:45] <stdin> and the restricted modules, basically every kernel package
[08:46] <underdog5004> deathnote, hmm, weird...I can't find it either...lemme look around some more
[08:46] <deathnote> is it reversedns?
[08:46] <borsten> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4828/
[08:47] <theshadow> !beryl
[08:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:47] <siconsole> why dpkg --configure -a take so long..and make my cpu utilization go high T_T
[08:48] <pontus> Jucato: ok. Is thera a bugreport somewhere?
[08:48] <stdin> pontus: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976
[08:48] <Jucato> :)
[08:49] <borsten> devilsadvocate: adept should have done the same with "get updates", what i did everytime
[08:49] <stdin> borsten: did you remove the word "backports" from the end of line 26, then run "sudo apt-get update" ?
[08:49] <deathnote> Answer: This error is ProFTPD's way of reporting that it was unsuccessful in resolving hostname to an IP address. Fixing this is a matter of configuring DNS for that hostname: properly set up an IP address for that DNS name in your DNS server, use a DNS name that has an IP address, or (as a quick fix/last resort) add that DNS name to your /etc/hosts file. The proper solution depends largely on the circumstances. <-- how do i configure my DNS for that
[08:49] <deathnote> hostname ?
[08:50] <borsten> stdin: yes
[08:50] <caris_mere> today there was an upgrade option with adept for linux-headers-386 and others, when I click get upgrade, it shows BREAK (upgrade). Is that fine?
[08:50] <stdin> caris_mere: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now
[08:50] <pontus> stdin: thank you
[08:50] <borsten> the protocol is in the pastebin
[08:50] <stdin> Jucato: I stole your message :P
[08:50] <caris_mere> stdin: ok, thanks
[08:51] <Jucato> lol
[08:51] <Jucato> Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[08:51] <underdog5004> deathnote, here we go, do this:     echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname
[08:52] <stdin> borsten: quick question I should have asked earlier, are you on Kubuntu 64bit ?
[08:52] <borsten> yes
[08:52] <underdog5004> then do these to make sure (do these seperately): hostname        hostname -f
[08:52] <stdin> borsten: yeah, there is no 64bit wine package
[08:52] <june_> !upgrade
[08:52] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:52] <borsten> great
[08:53] <borsten> so i cant use wine anyway?
[08:53] <stdin> underdog5004: the redirect wont work (as it needs root), should use "echo Thing | sudo tee -a /place/to/append/to
[08:53] <pontus> Speaking of updates. I really think there should be a note with each update motivating the need for it. Maybe there is? Am I missing it?
[08:53] <stdin> borsten: no, it's only available on x86
[08:53] <underdog5004> stdin, whoops, I'm just being a parrot. That's what I used for my server...
[08:54] <borsten> stdin: is there any trick, that i can use the 32-bit-wine?
[08:55] <june_> borsten: are you on ppc?
[08:55] <underdog5004> !chroot | borsten
[08:55] <ubotu> borsten: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:55] <stdin> borsten: you can use a 32bin chroot
[08:55] <stdin> *32bit
[08:55] <june_> amd64 is x86 compliant, i don't see why he couldn't run WINE
[08:55] <borsten> june: im on amd 64
[08:56] <stdin> june_: because there is not amd64 package for it
[08:56] <borsten> rest: ill have a try
[08:56] <june_> stdin: so? why can't he use the 386 package?
[08:57] <stdin> june_: never tried it, so I don't know
[08:57] <june_> does apt not allow you to download binary packages for different arches?
[08:59] <borsten> seems not, ive had already some problems with skype because of this
[08:59] <june_> does the tutorial here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade  work well for upgrading kubuntu?  iirc the ubuntu update reccomended using the update manager to do the upgrading
[09:03] <stdin> june_: yeah, it works, or it wouldn't be there
[09:03] <stdin> june_: and you can't use the update manager, as it's not installed on Kubuntu, it's a Gnome/GTK app
[09:04] <june_> stdin: yeah so?  you can still install it
[09:05] <stdin> june_: yeah, but, like I said, it's not installed by default, and some people don't want to have to install all the extra libs and synaptic package to use it
[09:05] <stdin> june_: btw, I do have it, as I perfir synaptic over adept
[09:05] <june_> i already installed synaptic, i loathe adept
[09:05] <june_> yeah
[09:05] <stdin> snap :P
[09:06] <stdin> and I only use synaptic when I'm not using apt-get/aptitude
[09:07] <bill> hello
[09:07] <june_> yeah, normally i use GNOME, but this is my mother's computer, and i figured KDE would suit her better (XP was bugged beyond recognition) and i got a nice trial by fire with adept dying installing the sun-java5-jre packages
[09:08] <stdin> june_: yeah, I think that is fixed in later releases of adept, but I still hate it
[09:08] <june_> honestly though i thought packages were required to have non-interactive installations
[09:08] <Jucato> stdin: yeah it has been fixed in Adept for feisty. have you seen the screenshot in Riddell's blog?
[09:09] <Jucato> it even looks better than the terminal in synaptic
[09:09] <stdin> Jucato: probably, but I'm in feisty now, and I think I did install java in adept to see, and I could accept it
[09:10] <parkerw207> guys anyone know why firefox takes so long to load for me ?
[09:10] <stdin> june_: some packages (multiverse ones mostly) need you to read and explicitly agree to a licence
[09:10] <parkerw207> it sits there saying its loading , then it just dissapears
[09:10] <devilsadvocate> parkerw207, firefox usually takes a bit of time to load, esp. if youre low on ram
[09:10] <june_> parkerw207: try konqueror?
[09:11] <parkerw207> i shouldnt be i have 512 ram
[09:11] <june_> i'm not exactly a fan, but it should do fine for now
[09:11] <devilsadvocate> i was able to install the upgrade to linux-restricted modules
[09:12] <mneisen> devilsadvocate: How did you do that?
[09:12] <mneisen> devilsadvocate: I am curious, as I have failed to do so.
[09:12] <devilsadvocate> it just did it by itself. the other two kernel related packages have been held back, though
[09:13] <mneisen> oic
[09:13] <mneisen> I am not that adventurous.
[09:14] <mneisen> I fear that when I update one part of the kernel related packages (f.e. the restrcited modules), my system will not com eup again.
[09:16] <pgdown> do I need arts?
[09:16] <pgdown> is it even necessary?
[09:16] <mneisen> pgdown: Only if you want to hear something ... :-D
[09:17] <pgdown> but wouldn alsa take care of that?
[09:17] <stdin> !arts
[09:17] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[09:17] <stdin> arts used alsa
[09:17] <stdin> *uses
[09:17] <pgdown> what uses arts for sound, though?
[09:18] <stdin> all the KDE apps
[09:18] <stdin> and system notifications
[09:19] <Jucato> KDE uses aRts for system notifications
[09:19] <Jucato> you can set KDE to use a different player *BUT* you shouldn't uninstall arts packages
[09:19] <xjpm100x> could someone help me?\
[09:19] <mneisen> xjpm100x: depends on your problem ... :-)
[09:19] <xjpm100x> uh, well I'm trying to get Beryl to work
[09:20] <pgdown> so, if I were to remove arts, I'd lose system notification sound + sounds from apps that are arts-only?
[09:20] <mneisen> !beryl | xjpm100x
[09:20] <ubotu> xjpm100x: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:20] <stdin> xjpm100x: there is also #beryl
[09:21] <xjpm100x> I know what it is, got it installed, it just doesnt work
[09:21] <xjpm100x> I read the wiki page, followed every step on it
[09:21] <stdin> xjpm100x: what's the graphics hardware you have?
[09:22] <xjpm100x> ATI Radeon 9600
[09:22] <xjpm100x> 256MB
[09:22] <stdin> xjpm100x: and do you have the binary drivers installed, and XGL ?
[09:24] <pgdown> so, how can I find the error output from x?
[09:24] <xjpm100x> yes, installed everything I need
[09:24] <stdin> pgdown: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:24] <stdin> xjpm100x: and do you have XGL running ?
[09:25] <june_> is using aptitude for a dist-upgrade a decent idea?
[09:25] <stdin> june_: yeah, helped me with some dependencies with dapper -> edgy before
[09:26] <june_> stdin: yeah i'm goin from dapper to edgy here
[09:26] <june_> it gave the solution a -486 though
[09:26] <june_> we'll see how it turns out
[09:26] <xjpm100x> I guess, have no idea to be honest, lmao
[09:26] <xjpm100x> I havent fucked with linux for a whiel and seen some vids or Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy with Beyrl and figured I could get back into it
[09:27] <xjpm100x> of*
[09:27] <stdin> june_: one thing to look out for, it will remove all the xserver-xorg-driver-* packages, they have been renamed to xserver-xorg-video-*
[09:27] <june_> xjpm100x: what's your problem?
[09:27] <june_> stdin: thanks, i've got integrated intel on this comp, is the xorg driver still in a separate package?
[09:28] <stdin> xjpm100x: there is a guide to XGL here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[09:28] <stdin> june_: yeah, it's in xserver-xorg-video-i810 i think, but xserver-xorg-video-all (installed by default) depends on it
[09:28] <june_> thanks
[09:29] <june_> i'm thinking of installing beryl on this computer, dunno how well it'll do
[09:29] <stdin> june_: I have intergrated intel, works great with aiglx
[09:30] <june_> yeah i
[09:30] <june_> 'm not sure how old this one is though
[09:31] <stdin> june_: I have an 845G, it's about 5 or 6 years old
[09:32] <june_> ah cool then, although i just looked at lspci and it said "VGA compatible device" and it said the manufacturer was VIA, so i dunno
[09:33] <sYnie> hello
[09:34] <sYnie> does somebody know, if there is any pdf-viewer, which can edit 'editable textfields' ?
[09:34] <mneisen> sYnie: acroread does.
[09:35] <stdin> june_: one tip, you can put something like "VideoRam 65536" to the "Section "Device" " section, to get it to use 64mb as video ram
[09:35] <stdin> june_: also have a look at "man via"
[09:37] <sYnie> thanks alot :)
[09:37] <stdin> :)
[09:38] <Phlosten> anyone had a prob with a thumb drive reporting its full but you cant see any files on it?
[09:40] <deathnote> how do i find out more info of a website? like its country etc..nslookup?
[09:40] <deathnote> how do i find out more info of a website? like its country etc..nslookup?
[09:40] <stdin> use whois
[09:40] <stdin> !whois
[09:40] <ubotu> whois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB
[09:40] <stdin> and host
[09:41] <stdin> !host
[09:41] <ubotu> host: utility for querying DNS servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 20000331-9 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 168 kB
[09:41] <darkparadox> can anyone explain to a total linux noob how to install .rpm files on kubuntu lol
[09:41] <stdin> !rpm
[09:41] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:41] <darkparadox> hm, i was trying to install my nvidia drivers, and i downloaded the xorg sdk that i thought i was supposed to..it was rpm
[09:42] <stdin> !nvidia
[09:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:42] <darkparadox> so now i suppose i'm totally lost again lmao
[09:42] <june_> darkparadox: no use the *.run installer off of nvidia's website, or use lupine's repository
[09:42] <june_> darkparadox: what card do you have?
[09:42] <darkparadox> 7600 GT
[09:43] <june_> darkparadox: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9746.html
[09:43] <darkparadox> yea i went in to recovery mode..
[09:43] <darkparadox> and did sh filename.whatever.run and it said it needed xorg sdk
[09:44] <june_> oh, well you need to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`   (those are backtics not single quotes) but it all should be described at the link ubotu gave
[09:44] <darkparadox> alright thanks i'll try
[09:44] <june_> yeah, that's not the xorg sdk, but you realyl shouldn't need that
[09:45] <darkparadox> i copied what you said and pasted it and it said..
[09:45] <darkparadox> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:45] <darkparadox> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:45] <stdin> close adept?
[09:45] <june_> darkparadox: do you have synaptic or adept open right now? the need to be closed
[09:46] <june_> they*
[09:46] <darkparadox> installed mesa-common-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dev apparently
[09:46] <darkparadox> and thansk, yea synaptic was opn
[09:47] <darkparadox> but the drivers said i needed sdk, what should i do about that oor?
[09:47] <tazz> hey guys i had a qustion, i installed kubuntu 6.06 and distupgraded, so in /etc/apt/sources.list can i replace dapper with edgy?
[09:47] <june_> try it again now, i don't know of any sdk
[09:48] <june_> there might be an xorg-dev package, but i never needed it
[09:48] <stdin> !upgrade | tazz
[09:48] <ubotu> tazz: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:48] <darkparadox> alright i guess i'll try and if not i'll be back lol, thank you guys
[09:48] <june_> darkparadox: well one sec
[09:48] <tazz> thanks stdin
[09:48] <june_> you don't hafta go into recovery mode
[09:48] <darkparadox> alright
[09:49] <june_> you can ctrl+alt+f1 and then login (username and password)
[09:49] <darkparadox> i tried to install from just terminal and it said i needed to exit x server and stuff
[09:49] <june_> then you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[09:49] <june_> then after you've installed the drivers "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[09:49] <june_> and startx
[09:49] <stdin> not startx, that's why you have a DM
[09:50] <parkerw207> stdin is there a major upgrade available ?
[09:50] <stdin> parkerw207: what do you mean?
[09:50] <darkparadox> alright i'll try ti then, brb
[09:50] <stdin> parkerw207: to Kubuntu, or to a package?
[09:50] <parkerw207> stdin i keep getting the little sign that i have not upgraded adept
[09:50] <parkerw207> in the corner
[09:51] <parkerw207> the kernel upgrades
[09:51] <stdin> watch for the message...
[09:51] <stdin> parkerw207: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[09:51] <parkerw207> thanks stdin :)
[09:52] <stdin> parkerw207: no problem, so many people have been asking, I've made a script to post that message :P
[09:52] <pgdown> what does it mean if you can connect to your router config page, but not load websites? dns problem?
[09:53] <june_> pgdown: in the console try pinging www.google.com
[09:53] <june_> "ping www.google.com"
[09:53] <pgdown> june_ not a problem im having...just trying to answer a friends question
[09:54] <stdin> pgdown: if that don't work check "ping 66.249.93.104" (the IP of google.com) if you can, it's a dns issue
[09:54] <parkerw207> hehe stdin
[09:54] <june_> pgdown: ah, are you communicating on AIM? if so it's probably DNS, since he's already connected to the aol.oscar server
[09:54] <crazy_penguin> Hello to everyone!
[09:56] <pgdown> thanks
[09:56] <_6StringKng_> so....my login screen resolution is different than that of when I login, anyway I could change that?
[09:56] <parkerw207> hello <crazy_penguin>
[09:56] <_6StringKng_> like, after x server is started and everything
[09:58] <karmikaze> anyone here use packet injection, specifically on madwifi drivers?
[09:58] <stdin> parkerw207: you know there is tab-completion in konversation, so you can type part of a nickname and press tab to compleat it. eg park<TAB> goes to parkerw207
[09:58] <Jucato> !tab
[09:58] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:59] <karmikaze> btw netgear w311tge is a great pci wifi card :D worked right ouf of the box! :D
[09:59] <stdin> standard in most irc clients :)
[09:59] <geniusvicks> how do I disable transparency ? Every program is transparent I cant read anything
[09:59] <^sahibecek^> where to find sourcee 4 kernell & gcc compiler 4  kubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:59] <karmikaze> geniusvicks: are you using beryl??
[09:59] <stdin> !source
[09:59] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:00] <geniusvicks> karmikaze, no
[10:00] <karmikaze> umm how do you have transparency geniusvicks
[10:00] <stdin> !kernel source
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:00] <pgdown> I think someone should figure out how to preload firefox...like how you can preload konqueror.
[10:00] <geniusvicks> karmikaze, I hav no idea. I adjusted some settings yesterday. NO transparency then. TOday, now I switch on my pC everything is transparent
[10:01] <karmikaze> thats kinda odd.. ive never heard of that happening. usually it takes a bit of effort to get true transparency going :P  are you still in kde?
[10:02] <geniusvicks> karmikaze, Ya. I went to systemsettings -> Appearance. THere I have disabled translucency too
[10:03] <Jucato> geniusvicks: System Settings -> Behavior -> look for the Translucency tab
[10:04] <geniusvicks> Jucato, thanks. Its opaque now.
[10:05] <Jucato> no problem
[10:06] <geniusvicks> Jucato, does the percentage stand for opacity or translucency ?
[10:06] <Jucato> opacity.
[10:06] <Jucato> 100% = fully opaque
[10:07] <geniusvicks> For Beryl do we need a grafix card?
[10:08] <stdin> geniusvicks: no, intel chips work well
[10:08] <ssvsrkr> hi
[10:08] <Jucato> geniusvicks: you basically need hardware 3D acceleration
[10:08] <Jucato> that depends on the drivers for your video card
[10:09] <geniusvicks> stdin, is 512 MB Ram and Celeron 2.4 ghz, intel 845gv mboard enough ?
[10:09] <stdin> geniusvicks: sounds like my system before I added some ram, and yeah, that that will work
[10:10] <geniusvicks> stdin, thanks
[10:10] <stdin> geniusvicks: are you on dapper or edgy ?
[10:10] <geniusvicks> stdin, edgy
[10:11] <stdin> geniusvicks: it's quite simple then, just follow http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[10:13] <geniusvicks> stdin, should I use aiglx or xgl ?
[10:13] <ady33> Hi does anyone know of a vista style sidebar for kubuntu?. Something that shows cpu/memory percentage etc.. I have had a look with my packet manager but not found anything yet... thanks
[10:14] <stdin> geniusvicks: aiglx, it's faster and more advanced. that and xgl sux on intel chips :P
[10:14] <rovern> is there any way to force a kdialog window to show on top?
[10:15] <geniusvicks> stdin, thanks. I misunderstood what was written on the page. I thought only ATI cards can use aiglx.
[10:15] <stdin> rovern: right click the title bar -> advanced -> keep above otheres
[10:15] <rovern> stdin: no, to force it from the script, so that it may appear on top anytime with no manual intervention
[10:16] <stdin> geniusvicks: nope, in fact it's the opposed, ATI cards are the only ones that can't use aiglx
[10:17] <stdin> rovern: yeah, use kstart, like "kstart --ontop kdialog --msgbox hello"
[10:18] <rovern> stdin: thanks a lot
[10:18] <stdin> rovern: no problem :)
[10:18] <parkerw207> park<tab>
[10:18] <stdin> parkerw207: <tab> = the tab key :)
[10:19] <parkerw207> haha i am too used to html tags!
[10:19] <stdin> heh :)
[10:20] <alfatau> hello, i've a problem: i had to reinstall my linux box, and now i'm not able to get standard C headers' manpages, e.g. 'man stdlib.h' doesn't work. what have i to do?
[10:23] <stdin> alfatau: /usr/include/stdlib.h is in libc6-dev and the man page is in manpages-posix-dev
[10:25] <alfatau> stdin: what apt source to install manpages-posix-dev ??
[10:25] <stdin> !info manpages-posix-dev
[10:25] <ubotu> manpages-posix-dev: Manual pages about using a POSIX system for development. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (edgy), package size 1394 kB, installed size 5112 kB
[10:25] <stdin> alfatau: it's in multiverse
[10:29] <delmp> lut
[10:30] <stdin> !fr
[10:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:30] <Sam_> ntenv
[10:30] <Sam_> delmp@st3b1:~$ q
[10:30] <Sam_> bash: q : commande introuvable
[10:30] <Sam_> delmp@st3b1:~$ printenv casroot
[10:30] <Sam_> delmp@st3b1:~$
[10:30] <eMaX_> what does it mean if linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic are being "held back" on sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:30] <alfatau> stdin: my apt-source: deb http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse --> i don't have that package :(
[10:30] <Jucato> !pastebin | Sam_
[10:30] <ubotu> Sam_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:31] <stdin> eMaX_: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[10:31] <Jucato> eMaX_: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[10:31] <Jucato> rawr
[10:31] <stdin> Jucato: heh, beet you :)
[10:31] <Jucato> you *beat* me?
[10:31] <stdin> alfatau: you need the main edgy one, not edgy-backports
[10:31] <Jucato> :D
[10:32] <stdin> Jucato: ok, I was faster in my responce :P
[10:32] <alfatau> stdin: ah, ok! thank you! i'm trying
[10:32] <Jucato> stdin: only because you had something copied from me :P
[10:33] <Jucato> but it's CC anyway lol
[10:33] <june_> darkparadox: sorry it won't let me PM because i didn't register my nick, and apparently someone is already using my name
[10:33] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, maybe I should add a "(Copyright Jucato 2007)" to the end? :P
[10:33] <Jucato> hell no
[10:33] <Jucato> I don't want to be held liable lol
[10:33] <stdin> heh
[10:34] <june_> hey my dist-upgrade is 93% downloaded haha
[10:35] <alfatau> stdin: yeah! thank you!
[10:36] <stdin> alfatau: you're welcome :)
[10:38] <mbelleza> how.to change my nickname in irc
[10:38] <june_> mbelleza: /nick NewNick
[10:38] <mbelleza> tanx june_
[10:39] <Alarm> hello . i want to add a basic authentication on my apache server. but somehow it doesnt really work. although i am asked for a user/pass and enter the correct ones, it keeps asking me again and again. i created a password file with htpasswd -c  , under /usr/local/etc/httpd . my document directory is /var/www (doesnt have any index html in it. just files. my apache2.conf file looks like that: http://www.phpriot.com/4939 . read many times the apach
[10:39] <Alarm> e tutorial but somehow i didnt manage to fix that  (i am not using .htaccess file, i have put the the basic authentication lines in a <directory> in the config file
[10:39] <june_> no problem, what client are you using?  there are usually "easier" ways as well
[10:39] <alfatau> stdin: can i ask another question?
[10:39] <june_> Alarm: #apache is a more appropriate channel, you're more likely to get an answer there
[10:39] <stdin> alfatau: sure
[10:40] <Alarm> june_,  for a reason that i dont know i am banned ,
[10:40] <Alarm> i guess my domain or .gr is banned
[10:40] <june_> Alarm: geeze, sorry, well unfortunately i don't have an answer for you
[10:40] <parkerw207> why is my linux getting so slow stdin?
[10:41] <parkerw207> well my pc lol
[10:41] <stdin> wow, #apache has a long ban list :P
[10:42] <stdin> parkerw207: what do you mean by slow?
[10:42] <parkerw207> it keeps getting laggy
[10:42] <parkerw207> takin ages to load everything
[10:42] <stdin> maybe you have a lot of services running
[10:43] <parkerw207> ;S
[10:43] <june_> Alarm: you might try changing your nick just in case its your nick that's banned
[10:43] <stdin> parkerw207: take a look in System Settings -> Advanced (if on edgy) -> Service Manager
[10:44] <parkerw207> lol it crashed
[10:44] <parkerw207> i dont have many things runing :S
[10:45] <alfatau> stdin: nothing, i solved myself... i needed another package. thanks a lot, bye!
[10:46] <june_> Alarm: i'm asking about getting you unbanned
[10:47] <Alarm> nice of u :) i am asking on apache in undernet servers
[10:48] <june_> Alarm you should be good to go now
[10:48] <Alarm> lovely, thanks
[10:51] <bjacob> running feisty herd 3 here. is it safe to do a full upgrade now? or is the problem with libapt-pkg-libc6.4 still there? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=354865
[10:52] <stdin> bjacob: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:52] <bjacob> ah ok :)
[10:55] <parkerw207> when the new kubuntu comes out , do we get to upgrade ?
[10:56] <premier_> how can I mount a .iso image as a drive?
[10:56] <stdin> !iso
[10:56] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[11:02] <darkparadox> uh ok lol..can't get video drivers to install
[11:03] <crube> Is it possible to add amarok equalizer presets from an eqf file?
[11:04] <premier_> crap, I think I screwed up my /media folder
[11:05] <parkerw207> stdin: Do you know where i would find document templates for openoffice ? and is there a better office suit , not that oen office isnt good becuase its awesome!
[11:05] <premier_> I tried sudo mount ... /media/smac
[11:05] <premier_> but it said it couldnt find /media/smac
[11:05] <premier_> how do I do that?
[11:06] <stdin> parkerw207: they should be included, I think, you can ask in #openoffice.org , but as to a "better" suit, I don't know, there are some others, like koffice, but don't know if they ate "better"
[11:07] <stdin> premier_: maybe: sudo mkdir /media/smac
[11:08] <parkerw207> thanks stdin
[11:08] <stdin> np :)
[11:09] <stdin> crube: you can ask in #amarok , if it's not dead, or in #kde
[11:10] <parkerw207> stdin: there is only like 3 people in that room and they aint even answering lmfao hehe
[11:15] <stdin> parkerw207: http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/template_2_x/index.html
[11:16] <stdin> and http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/
[11:16] <hansen> aptitude says there are new packages available for kernel, modules etc, but can't download them. Something broken or the mirrors just not completely updated yet?
[11:16] <mneisen> hansen: same problem over here .
[11:17] <mneisen> hansen: The problem has existed for at least 24h.
[11:17] <hansen> mneisen: thanks, so it's not my installation that is fscked
[11:17] <pinheiro> Riddell: ping
[11:17] <mneisen> hansen: at least there is another possible cause ... :-D
[11:17] <hansen> :)
[11:18] <stdin> hansen: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:18] <parkerw207> thanks stdin
[11:18] <stdin> parkerw207: :-)
[11:19] <hansen> stdin: thanks
[11:19] <june_> !via
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <mneisen> stdin: is it save to update those kernel-related modules that can be downloaded?
[11:19] <stdin> mneisen: should be
[11:20] <mneisen> stdin: thanks.
[11:27] <lenscape> adept is confusing me. It says I have 4 updates but 3 are marked as 'no change'. What does that mean?
[11:27] <stdin> lenscape: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:27] <lenscape> stdin: Thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated
[11:28] <stdin> lenscape: it's been a common question over the last day or so :)
[11:28] <lenscape> heh
[11:28] <mneisen> stdin: Shouldn't we add a factoid to ubotu ...?
[11:29] <Jucato> not necessary to do so, if the situation is (should be) temporary
[11:29] <parkerw207> where would i find a list of trick for irc >
[11:29] <parkerw207> ?*
[11:29] <stdin> mneisen: maybe, I (and Jucato) have just made a script and a command alias to show the message
[11:29] <mneisen> stdin: OK, that is just as well.
[11:30] <Jucato> hey, what do I have to do w/ it?
[11:30] <stdin> I just type "/fix Name" and it prints: Name: BlahBlah....
[11:30] <hansen> stdin, mneisen: sorry if I asked a faq that was 1000 times already today :)
[11:30] <mneisen> Jucato: Well, I ran into this problem before, not just yet. There have been repeatedly held-back packages that disappeared after a few days.
[11:30] <mneisen> hansen: no harm done.
[11:30] <mneisen> hansen: I am not quite so expertish in this area.
[11:32] <nalioth> Jucato? never!
[11:33] <Jucato> nalioth: sssh... :)
[11:34] <hansen> apropos my reason to upgrade the kernel: Did any of you manage to get a Intel 3945ABG wireless to work with the current kernel/drivers?
[11:36] <xsacha> woah, what's this about ubuntu teaming up with linspire? Starting with the Ubuntu 7.04 release in April, Ubuntu users will be able to use the Linspire CNR (Click and Run) software delivery system, which will give them one-click access to commercial programs and proprietary multimedia CODECs and drivers.
[11:37] <hansen> to me it looks like everything is set up correctly out of the box (mechanism for downloading firmware to device and start the userspace daemon when the kernel module is loaded), but still it wont connect to my AP
[11:37] <parkerw207> is gimp any good ?
[11:38] <stdin> yeah, but it's not the easiest app to pickup
[11:38] <hansen> parkerw207: depends on your needs
[11:38] <parkerw207> ermm well i do graphics design
[11:39] <parkerw207> so i need something similar to photoshop
[11:39] <mneisen> parkerw207: You can set up gimp to look and act just like photoshop
[11:39] <stdin> then gimp is for you
[11:39] <hansen> it's the best photoshop replacement available for linux
[11:39] <parkerw207> how do i do that ?
[11:39] <Jucato> parkerw207: you will have to test them out yourself
[11:39] <hansen> but it is not photoshop :)
[11:39] <parkerw207> yeah i will do , i will test it
[11:39] <parkerw207> didnt photoshop start off as an open source project :S
[11:39] <Jucato> parkerw207: try both the GIMP and Krita. use what you like. or use both if you want
[11:40] <parkerw207> i thought some guys in the movie industry starting it >
[11:40] <hansen> for me the big drawback is that it can't do >8 bit per channel editing
[11:40] <parkerw207> ooo
[11:40] <parkerw207> another things
[11:40] <hansen> feature-wise Krita looks great, but I never really got it work reliably
[11:40] <parkerw207> why is my audio play back choppy ?
[11:40] <mneisen> parkerw207: Take a look at http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241
[11:41] <parkerw207> ok thanks mneisen
[11:42] <hansen> if you want some really high quality image editing software and aren't afraid of an (ahem) "alternative" UI, try this: http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/index.php?title=VIPS
[11:42] <parkerw207> how do i find out if the gimp i just got from adept is the latest ?
[11:42] <hansen> the author describes it as "It aims to be about half-way between Photoshop and Excel" :)
[11:42] <mray> When I "apt-get upgrade" 2 packages are kept back (linux-image-386, linux-restricted-modules-386) - what shall I do now?
[11:42] <Jucato> parkerw207: Help -> About GIMP, then compare it to the one in the official website
[11:43] <Jucato> stdin: ^^^^^
[11:43] <mneisen> parkerw207: Well, if you did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gimp, then you have the latest version available for (K)Ubuntu
[11:43] <parkerw207> ooo ok then thanks!
[11:43] <mneisen> stdin: Time for your script again .-D
[11:43] <parkerw207> lol
[11:43] <Jucato> mray: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:43] <parkerw207> where do i go to help out in open source ?
[11:44] <stdin> Jucato: huh, I step away for 2 seconds and someone asks :P
[11:44] <Jucato> stdin: that was more than 2 seconds
[11:44] <parkerw207> i'm not brilliant at anything particulary but i amdoing an ict diploma and i am doig well so i must have some skills to help out :)
[11:44] <mray> Jucato: Thank you for theinformation -that wa a nice hint!
[11:45] <Jucato> parkerw207: 1) take note of what you can and cannot do/contribute then 2) go to the project's website, IRC channel, mailing list or forum and ask around
[11:45] <parkerw207> ooo i see :)
[11:45] <stdin> and, of course, there is no cancel button
[11:46] <parkerw207> i shall do.... hm i am good at graphics design and websites really
[11:46] <mray> parkerw207: Did you try Krita? It has grown, and already implements many features like GIMP, but with a nicer GUI - "I think"
[11:46] <parkerw207> yeah its pritty nice!
[11:47] <parkerw207> i am not good at programming , only ones were being tuaght is sql and vb.net :O
[11:47] <mray> i'm a designer myself, too - feeling like an alien in these chatrooms sometimes :D
[11:47] <MidMark> hi, from today I have a kernel updates that breaks things!
[11:47] <Jucato> parkerw207: there are many possible areas of contribution, not just programming: documentation, artwork, bug hunting/triaging, user support (like this), etc
[11:47] <Jucato> MidMark: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:48] <MidMark> yeah thanx
[11:48] <Jucato> MidMark: it actually doesn't break things... because it doesn't even download anything
[11:48] <parkerw207> yeah i guess!
[11:48] <parkerw207> but i do want to be good t programming , i just find it a tad confusing lol
[11:48] <parkerw207> specially when you have a idiot of a teacher lol
[11:48] <Jucato> parkerw207: start studying. no one's stopping you :)
[11:48] <MidMark> Jucato: it breaks all updates ;)
[11:48] <Riddell> pinheiro: hi
[11:49] <MidMark> in the sense that I cannot download them
[11:49] <parkerw207> he just gives us sheet of code to copy and doesnt explain what they do lol
[11:49] <stdin> MidMark: just ignore them
[11:49] <parkerw207> it make me luagh
[11:49] <parkerw207> i'm pritty good at sql though :)
[11:49] <Jucato> parkerw207: I've learned long ago never to rely only on instructors, to do my own research, etc.
[11:49] <parkerw207> Jucato: i've come to realise that myself
[11:50] <parkerw207> how do i get an sql server all up and running on linux ?
[11:50] <stdin> !mysql
[11:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:50] <parkerw207> ok i may sound strange now , but we use oracle
[11:50] <parkerw207> basically just a website where we type the sql out
[11:51] <parkerw207> what program do i need that does the same thing :S
[11:51] <stdin> !oracle
[11:51] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[11:51] <parkerw207> ooo gosh
[11:52] <parkerw207> i tried to do that once and it was coming up with all sorts of errors lol
[11:52] <Ippatsu> Hi all! I can't configure Local Network File Sharing in Kubuntu using System Settings -> Sharing because the configuration page is disabled, how can I resolve? (screenshot @ http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8566/sharingkubuntu1iw0.png )
[11:52] <parkerw207> is there anything else i could use instead?
[12:00] <parkerw207> whas the shortcut key to get a terminal to come up?
[12:01] <Jucato> if you're in Konqueror, F4.
[12:01] <Jucato> if you mean just a general Konsole, you can set your own shortcut for it
[12:01] <parkerw207> thankyou very much
[12:01] <stdin> alt-f2, konsole :P
[12:02] <parkerw207> ooooo oracle xe is huge loL!
[12:02] <Jucato> nooo
[12:02] <Jucato> no more script kiddy...
[12:03] <stdin> heh, you'll have to do it yourself now
[12:03] <stdin> or put it in the topic Jucato
[12:03] <Jucato> I'm not *that* powerful :P
[12:03] <stdin> not that anyone actually reads that
[12:04] <Jucato> yeah
[12:04] <stdin> Jucato: topic is open, anyone can change it
[12:04] <parkerw207> is its true that linux is hard to hack ?
[12:04] <Jucato> stdin: nope it isn't
[12:04] <parkerw207> it isnt :O
[12:04] <Jucato> parkerw207: please know the difference between hack and crack
[12:05] <parkerw207> jucator
[12:05] <Jucato> or at least start knowing the the difference
[12:05] <parkerw207> Jucato: the difference is ?
[12:05] <Jucato> hacker = programmer; cracker = some guy (programmer or not) who tries to break in systems
[12:05] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I conenct to a dial up broadhand connection?
[12:05] <parkerw207> ok then
[12:06] <parkerw207> so is it hard to crack linux?
[12:06] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, it's open :P
[12:06] <DjDarkman> I just got my very own internet connection
[12:06] <DjDarkman> but I can`t connect to it
[12:08] <stdin> right. now I am gone (before I get scolded)
[12:10] <mray> DjDarkman: you want to dial yourself with pppoe?
[12:10] <mray> or do you have a router and WLAN etc?...
[12:10] <DjDarkman> yes mray
[12:10] <DjDarkman> ppoe
[12:10] <mray> DjDarkman: i think there is a tool that is called "KPPP"
[12:10] <DjDarkman> yes but its so hard to understand
[12:10] <mray> in your startmenu under "internet"
[12:11] <DjDarkman> I know ,but I don`t know how to make it work this way
[12:11] <DjDarkman> how can I make it use pppoe?
[12:11] <mray> don't you have the possibility to use a router?
[12:11] <DjDarkman> no
[12:12] <mray> i think it uses pppoe - it is just a Graphical user interface for it (i assume)
[12:12] <mray> what did you try so far - and why doesn't it work?
[12:13] <DjDarkman> kppp
[12:13] <mray> or "how" doesn't it work :P
[12:13] <mray> yes.
[12:13] <DjDarkman> it doesn`t let me complete the username and password fields
[12:13] <mray> besides - how come you are chatting with me!! LIAR!!!
[12:13] <mray> ;)
[12:13] <DjDarkman> from evil OS madar_
[12:13] <DjDarkman> mray
[12:13] <mray> ^^
[12:13] <june_> !s3
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <DjDarkman> so mray do you know what Ihave to set it kppp to make it work?
[12:14] <DjDarkman> command line stuff is good too
[12:14] <june_> anyone know if it's possible to get GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two on an S3 video card with the openChrome drivers?
[12:14] <mray> i remember that the login phrases on linux somehow were different
[12:15] <mray> in what country do you try to use ppp?
[12:16] <DjDarkman> ROMANIA
[12:16] <mray> well, ok i'm not from romania, but i think you want to dial in to a DSL connection right?
[12:17] <Jucato> !ro
[12:17] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[12:17] <ubuntu_> w
[12:20] <kuw88> hi to all
[12:21] <kuw88> where can i foud real player fro ubuntu
[12:21] <kuw88> ?
[12:24] <oliver__> hi, .....
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> !real
[12:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:25] <Paulo> hello all
[12:25] <[knap] > hi
[12:26] <Paulo> can i get a little help with apt please?
[12:26] <[knap] > just aks the question
[12:26] <Paulo> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:26] <[knap] > don't ask if you can ask
[12:26] <Paulo>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> Paulo: means the package isnt the one for your kernel
[12:27] <_6StringKng_> when I get to the loging screen in Kubuntu my screen resolution is different and the refresh rate of my monitor is 60Hz, any way to make it the same as when I actually login?
[12:27] <hansen> [2007-02-09 11:46]  <Jucato> MidMark: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[12:27] <_6StringKng_> login screen*
[12:27] <Paulo> but when i try do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" they will not install
[12:27] <hansen> Paulo: ^
[12:28] <Paulo> Linux_Galore: thanks for answering
[12:28] <Linux_Galore> Paulo: because its not the package for your kernel, you can dist upgrade all week it doesnt means it will update something thats not a matching package
[12:28] <oliver__> hey, that solved my problem with updating too, Thanks
[12:29] <Paulo> then why is it showing this if it is not for my kernel
[12:30] <Linux_Galore> Paulo: Im not on your machined so i havednt got a clue what of the 20,000 odd packages you have installed
[12:30] <_6StringKng_> could someone help me with my prob?
[12:31] <Gandalf> ciao c' qualcuno?
[12:31] <_6StringKng_> when I get to the login screen its a different resolution and the refresh rate of my monitor is 60Hz, anyways I could make it the same resolution as when I login, same for the refresh rate
[12:31] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: ?? the login screen is when X starts, before that X isnt running
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> no, x is running
[12:32] <Paulo> !it
[12:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> just not logged in
[12:32] <Gandalf> ok sorry
[12:32] <Gandalf> ^^
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> not like terminal or anything
[12:32] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: I know X is running i just said that
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> shit my bad, read it wrong somehow, lmao
[12:33] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: what im trying to tell you is before the login X isnt running
[12:33] <_6StringKng_> I know that
[12:33] <_6StringKng_> but when I actually enter my info and login, the resolution and refresh change
[12:33] <parkerw207> Guys could i get a bit of help with oracle/
[12:34] <_6StringKng_> refresh rate*
[12:34] <parkerw207> i've installed it using apt but i need to know how to run it :S
[12:34] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: it shouldnt, that is weird,  run   systemsettings  and check
[12:34] <parkerw207> oo wait i found it lol
[12:34] <[knap] > is there any bug related to static ip address in conection manager in kubuntu 7.04 herd3 amd64 ?
[12:35] <[knap] > can't connect to my wireless router
[12:35] <[knap] > only when using dhcp
[12:36] <_6StringKng_> no, its fine
[12:36] <parkerw207> ppp now it cant load it :S
[12:36] <[knap] > so probably it's some configuration
[12:36] <[knap] > my fault
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: or just run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and answer the questions
[12:37] <parkerw207> stdin: you there ?
[12:44] <Flamzart> hello im wondering if anyone can help me im trying to get a list of the latest packages using sudo apt-get update but gets time outs all over the shop
[12:46] <praetor> using KDE, I added another panel so that I have two panels, one across the top, and one across the bottom. However, I am unable to resize the 2nd panel that I added
[12:46] <praetor> if I right click on the 2nd panel, select configure and change anything, the changes are always made on the first panel
[12:46] <kuw88> the web java not work
[12:46] <kuw88> ?
[12:48] <Linux_Galore> Flamzart: tells me your sources are wrong and it hanging because it cant find or connect
[12:48] <Linux_Galore> the server
[12:49] <Flamzart> k
[12:49] <Linux_Galore> praetor: aah you can but you need to look closer,  you may have to log out and back in for it to appear as a drop down option
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> praetor: what should ahppend is when you go into Configure  the "Main panel" box has a built in drop down that allows you to select the external panel but it only works after kicker is restarted
[12:51] <Flamzart> how do i changes sources havent changed anything with it after fresh install
[12:51] <[knap] > probably the servers are down
[12:51] <[knap] > chose another one
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> Flamzart: start   adept  and click on View -> Manage Repositories
[12:52] <kuw88> how can i know about my sound card driver
[12:52] <kuw88> ?
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> kuw88: run systemsettings
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> or  asound --list
[12:54] <kuw88> thank you
[12:54] <Flamzart> @ manage repositories
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> kuw88: sorry asoundconf list
[12:57] <praetor> Linux_Galore: did the trick, cheers :-)
[12:57] <KomiaPoika> can anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?
[12:57] <kuw88> (linux_calore) thank you for help i found it
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> praetor: yeah. seems to be some weird update bug that makes the package installer config script put two screen entries in xorg.conf sometimes
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> parkerw207: running that config setup flushes it all
[12:59] <toxidas> hi everyone
[12:59] <toxidas> i want to capture destop via beryl plugin
[12:59] <toxidas> i have the plugin but cannot capture
[01:00] <toxidas> it asks me about seom-x264 and couldn't find in the repos?
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> toxidas: its a codec
[01:01] <toxidas> where can i find it?
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> toxidas: in stall the xine-extra-codecs  package
[01:02] <toxidas> thanx by the way stupid question: what is super key in beryl?:)
[01:02] <[knap] > windows key
[01:02] <[knap] > with the flag
[01:03] <toxidas> i cant make work the win key is it via xorg.conf
[01:14] <parkerw207> i did it lol
[01:14] <parkerw207> i managed to get it working
[01:14] <parkerw207> thanks all :)
[01:14] <parkerw207> cya
[01:14] <parkerw207> exit
[01:14] <parkerw207> oops
[01:15] <parkerw207> !commands
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[01:18] <baracuda> G'day everyone
[01:20] <Pooh22> how are usb (media) events normally handled in kubuntu (edgy)?
[01:20] <Pooh22> I have a laptop where it seems that knetworkmanager is handling them (and doing it well)
[01:21] <Pooh22> but this isn't a standard package and it (or a related something) seems to have a conflict with NIS
[01:22] <Pooh22> without a handler, it seems the KDE Daemon responds with a "malformed URL" message and not mounting the usb media
[01:22] <Pooh22> anyone have a clue how to fix this?
[01:27] <vk6five> -noob alert- please bear with me. I am VERY rusty with my BASH, and I only learnt enough to get me by in what I had to do at school in the 80s. -- I am experiancing several issues ... first how do I rename a file eg "avg71flm_r30_a0791_i386.deb" to "avg71.deb" please?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> vk6five: mv avg71flm_r30_a0791_i386.deb avg71.deb
[01:31] <xenol> !acpi
[01:31] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[01:31] <xenol> i got problems with turning off my pc
[01:31] <xenol> any ideas?
[01:32] <xenol> plz anyone?
[01:32] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:33] <xenol> hi
[01:33] <ubuntu_> ja my nick is ubuntu.... fk
[01:33] <xenol> !language
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[01:34] <ubuntu_> __
[01:37] <KomiaPoika> can anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?
[01:44] <xenol> !help
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[01:44] <xenol> !apciproblems
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apciproblems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <xenol> !acpiproblems
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[01:45] <Pooh22> xenol: have you tried the kernel commandline in grub?
[01:46] <xenol> hmm wats that?
[01:46] <xenol> i cannot restart/turn off pc
[01:47] <Pooh22> if you look in /boot/grub/menu.lst, you can see how the kernel is started
[01:47] <Pooh22> sometimes you can fix things by doing acpi=on or acpi=off as a parameter to the kernel startup
[01:48] <xenol> Pooh22:  this may help me to turn off /restart pc?
[01:49] <Pooh22> xenol: I don't know for sure, your problem description is very generic ;-)
[01:49] <xenol> Pooh22:  so i will do it when i want to restart pc nothing happen only screen goes black and when i am turning off pc then only monitor shuts down and i can hear my disk and cooler working
[01:50] <Pooh22> hmm, I have that sometimes too, perhaps it will be fixed with the new kernel that will be updated when it is fixed (see topic)
[01:51] <max__> re
[01:51] <max__> I don't want to ask questions that have been answered twice but
[01:52] <max__> I dont know how to
[01:52] <xenol> Pooh22:  any  ideas?
[01:52] <max__> solve the matter on my own
[01:52] <max__> Any apt-experts here?
[01:52] <Pooh22> xenol: no further ideas at the moment
[01:53] <Pooh22> max__: just ask the question...
[01:53] <max__> my adept-updater won't stop showing 3 packages which can't b updated
[01:53] <max__> for update
[01:53] <Pooh22> max__: see topic of this channel
[01:54] <Pooh22> !topci
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <Pooh22> !topic
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[01:54] <xenol> Pooh22: i should try acpi=off ?
[01:55] <max__> Pooh22: thx
[01:55] <Pooh22> xenol: it's worth a try, please let us know if it worked
[01:55] <xenol> Pooh22: ok i need to add it behind kernel parameters?
[01:58] <xenol> didnt helped :(
[01:59] <xenol> Pooh22: any more ideas? isnt there any file that log why PC cant shut down for example?
[01:59] <Pooh22> xenol: have you checked the /var/log/syslog file?
[02:00] <Pooh22> xenol, you could try doing acpi=on instead?
[02:03] <xenol> Pooh22:  i am sure what to look for
[02:04] <Pooh22> xenol: you could try to look for the moment just before the last time you booted
[02:05] <Pooh22> the boot messages will always start in a typical way and lots with nearly the same time
[02:06] <Pooh22> and the ones before that will probably contain shutdown, terminate, exit type of messages
[02:06] <xenol> well will u have look at it pplz?
[02:06] <xenol> plz*
[02:06] <xenol> !paste
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[02:06] <Pooh22> sure
[02:08] <xenol> Pooh22: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4854/  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4855/ first is syslog.0 and syslog
[02:11] <Pooh22> xenol: apart from that worrying message from kdm-greet, I don't see anything strange
[02:12] <xenol> Pooh22: i have nforce2 delta series MB
[02:12] <Pooh22> but it says memory corruption on my machine as well
[02:12] <Pooh22> so I guess that's just BS ;-)
[02:13] <xenol> and on dapper i didnt have any problems with shut down/restart :S
[02:13] <Pooh22> xenol: I'd wait for the new kernel to come through the updates in the next few days
[02:14] <xenol> Pooh22:  but the prob is many ppl have probs on laptops with this i am on desktop
[02:14] <xenol> and no answer
[02:14] <xenol> to it
[02:14] <xenol> i am worried that kernel 2.6.20 wont support my HW any more :S
[02:15] <hw> hmm
[02:15] <Pooh22> xenol: it's like that sometimes with Linux, sometimes a problem isn't fixed quickly
[02:15] <Pooh22> xenol: the next one will just be a minor update (2.6.17-11)
[02:16] <xenol> Pooh22:  well i dont understand win xp in shuting down with no prob daper no prob
[02:16] <xenol> well should i try to boot livecd and turn of there?
[02:17] <Pooh22> or just press the power button? (sometimes holding it for a while will finally turn it off)
[02:17] <Pooh22> I'm sure this will be fixed in some way
[02:17] <Pooh22> just not today ;-)
[02:18] <xenol> Pooh22: i found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1722087&postcount=13:P
[02:18] <xenol> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1722087&postcount=13
[02:18] <xenol> i will give it try acpi=force
[02:19] <Pooh22> xenol: hopefully that will work...
[02:19] <xenol> im reading more threads in forum
[02:24] <xenol> Pooh22: i will try to shut down in windows :S
[02:24] <xenol> i am afraid cant do it there to
[02:25] <j_> any ideas when "dapper/edgy-security kernels are uninstallable, a fix is being worked on" will be fixed? I have no rush, the exclamation mark just bothers me =)
[02:28] <xenol> Pooh22: bah acpi=force didnt  helped
[02:29] <xenol> Pooh22: that kernel will solve this problems?
[02:29] <Pooh22> xenol: I don't know, but it seems to be a kernel problem
[02:29] <Pooh22> so it may solve it, or not (if it's not fixed in that release)
[02:30] <xenol> Pooh22: many ppl react to this?
[02:30] <xenol> react to this problem*
[02:30] <Pooh22> how do you mean "react"?
[02:30] <Pooh22> you mean if many people complain about this?
[02:31] <Pooh22> I don't know
[02:35] <Pooh22> xenol: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44008
[02:36] <xenol> Pooh22: weird is sudo reboot works perfectly so sudo shutdown -p could also ?
[02:36] <Pooh22> perhaps it's a kdm bug?
[02:37] <xenol> well mayb
[02:37] <xenol> anyway i will try smth
[02:39] <nabil> am using kubuntu in xp through virtual box..runs like native speed
[02:39] <xenol> Pooh22: sux didnt helped either i got kernel 2.6.17-10 generic hope 17-11 fixes this
[02:39] <xenol> till then i need to sudo shutdown
[02:39] <xenol> i guess
[02:40] <xenol> Pooh22: can i ask u few more questions?
[02:42] <jay> I have  a script that I need 2 run JUST before gdm starts... how I do do that?
[02:43] <xenol> !paste
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[02:43] <Pooh22> xenol: I should really be doing something else, so just ask in general, there's about 350 people in the channel (though many asleep I suppose)
[02:43] <xenol> Pooh22: ok where can i know wat version of kde i am using?
[02:44] <xenol> this is last question
[02:44] <xenol> and thx for time Pooh22
[02:44] <Pooh22> xenol: in about kde (from konqueror help menu)
[02:44] <Pooh22> np xenol
[02:45] <mneisen> Hi, I have a problem with simutrans on Kubuntu. When I try to start the executable (rights are 755), I get an "Permission denied.". WTF? Any suggestions?
[02:46] <xenol> Pooh22: and one rly last question why adept notifies me about kernel updates for the same kernel i am using?
[02:46] <Pooh22> xenol: I don't know
[02:46] <mneisen> !topic
[02:47] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[02:47] <xenol> so it is being fixed ?
[02:47] <tazz> anyone using a kubuntu distro can tell me what they see when they type "echo $DISPLAY" please?
[02:49] <jay> I have a script to run right before kdm starts... how do I do that?
[02:49] <mem_> :(
[02:50] <xenol> !script
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <soulrider> hello
[02:53] <xenol> hi
[02:53] <mem_> hi
[02:53] <soulrider> im having some issues with the kernel, aptitude wants to downgrade it =/ anyone having this issue too ?>
[02:54] <xenol> soulrider: wat version u have?
[02:54] <xenol> 2.6.17-10 genric?
[02:54] <xenol> generic*
[02:54] <soulrider> no wait, it wants to upgrade but it sais the new ones have unmet deps
[02:54] <soulrider> yeah, wants to go for .11
[02:54] <xenol> well read topic
[02:54] <soulrider> but score is -91
[02:54] <soulrider> ohh :)
[02:54] <soulrider> i guess ill wait then
[02:55] <xenol> i have same prob
[02:55] <xenol> cant shutdown pc though k menu
[02:55] <soulrider> cant understand how they released uninstallable kernels though
[02:55] <xenol> need to sudo shutdown
[02:55] <zakame> evening all
[02:55] <mem_> 'ning
[02:55] <soulrider> evening zakame
[02:56] <zakame> hello soulrider :D
[02:56] <zakame> and mem_ :D
[02:56] <soulrider> hello zakame
[02:56] <mem_> Glad you're all smiles & grins zakame :P
[02:58] <tazz> when i type kate at the command prompt i get this error "kate: cannot connect to X server" any idea what the problem could be?
[02:58] <tazz> i think my x is broken
[02:59] <xenol> tazz use kdesu kate =)
[02:59] <mneisen> Hi, I have a problem with simutrans on Kubuntu. When I try to start the executable (rights are 755), I get an "Permission denied.". WTF? Any suggestions?
[02:59] <xenol> did u use sudo?
[02:59] <tazz> xenol, i get the following error "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:59] <tazz> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:59] <tazz> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0
[02:59] <tazz> "
[02:59] <zakame> mem_: pretty much, I'm quite happy tonight... just got a feature working for my little project ;)
[03:00] <zakame> I'll just pass time for the moment
[03:00] <xenol> tazz: i have sometimes same  prob too but when i type sudo kate and not kdesu kate
[03:00] <Agent_bob> tazz execute; xhost +LOCAL:     and retry.
[03:01] <tazz> Agent_bob, "xhost:  unable to open display ":0"
[03:01] <tazz> "
[03:02] <mem_> Anyone got Beryl working with SIS V card/? :S
[03:02] <tazz> xenol, in konsole i am logged in as root so i dont think sudo will make much diffrece.
[03:02] <mem_> zakame - congrats :)
[03:02] <xenol> tazz:  no idea then sry
[03:03] <Agent_bob> tazz not as root.  as the user that owns the xsession
[03:04] <tazz> Agent_bob, got it looks like i get the problem only when i am logged in as root or else everything is working fine.
[03:06] <xenol> tazz: wait for new kernel to come out if it wont fix it then u  have problem :p
[03:06] <Agent_bob> that's what the command was for, to unlock the xsession so that root could connect to it.
[03:06] <tazz> xenol, tonight i am updating from 6.06 to 6.10
[03:06] <xenol> well i update too and got only problems with it
[03:06] <rohan> do kubuntu and ubuntu interfere with each other ? for e.g., kde's trash can system is different form gnome's, so in gnome, i get an icon on the desktop .. "Trash.desktop" in fedora .. is it the same in ubuntu ?
[03:06] <xenol> cant shutdown pc correctly
[03:07] <ypsila> moin
[03:08] <Agent_bob> rohan no.  kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop  may conflict but they are both just meta packages.  you can uninstall the one to install the other.
[03:08] <rohan> no, the kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages dont conflict with each other. i am asking about the case mentioned above
[03:08] <crube> My updater keeps telling me there's 3 pudated packages available. These are linux header packages and something like that. I guess it doesn't actually update until I restart my computer. Am i right?
[03:08] <Agent_bob> or install neither and install both gnome and kde  meta packages   or any combination of the four
[03:09] <Agent_bob> rohan what "case mentioned above" ?
[03:09] <soulrider> !dbus
[03:09] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB
[03:10] <Agent_bob> rohan trash ?   i answered that.   no.
[03:10] <rohan> Agent_bob:  for e.g., kde's trash can system is different form gnome's, so in gnome, i get an icon on the desktop .. "Trash.desktop" in fedora .. is it the same in ubuntu ?
[03:10] <soulrider> can someone explain to me what dbus is ?
[03:10] <rohan> oh
[03:10] <rohan> that's great .. :)
[03:11] <Agent_bob> you can have an icon on the desktop in either kde or gnome    but the trash filders are seperate they wont conflict.
[03:11] <xenol> crube it is kernel u dotn have to restat cause it wont upgrade just read the topic /topci
[03:11] <xenol>  /topic
[03:13] <xenol> !multimedia
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:13] <xenol> !formats
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <xenol> !restrictedformats
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <rohan> xenol: you can try /msg'ing the bot, instead of having it reply in the channel
[03:19] <the_hammer> anyone else having a hard time installing adobe flash
[03:19] <the_hammer> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[03:19] <the_hammer> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[03:19] <the_hammer> i hit enter and it just repeats itself :(
[03:20] <hw> the_hammer: aren't there kubuntu packages?
[03:20] <the_hammer> i added  the example and checked the path doesnt work
[03:20] <the_hammer> no i got it from adobe
[03:20] <hw> the_hammer: why?
[03:20] <Jucato> !flash9
[03:20] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:21] <the_hammer> flash9?
[03:21] <Jucato> yes. the latest version available for Linux
[03:21] <the_hammer> ok ill check that out ive install every flash in the repos and nadda will do what i want
[03:21] <hw> I've flash 9.0.31 installed
[03:21] <Jucato> the_hammer: you do have Flash 9 installed? form the -backports (you need to enable those)
[03:22] <hw> installed by kubuntu
[03:22] <the_hammer> how?
[03:22] <Jucato> !backports
[03:22] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:22] <the_hammer> (you need to enable those)
[03:22] <Jucato> just enable them in your sources.list
[03:22] <Jucato> !repositories
[03:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:23] <the_hammer> ok ive uncommented everything there already so i should be good yeah?
[03:23] <Jucato> look for the line with edgy-backports (if you're on edgy, or dapper-backports if you're on dapper) and remove the # at the beginning
[03:23] <the_hammer> edgy here
[03:24] <Jucato> double check your repositories. if they're "correct, sudo apt-get update". then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:24] <oslo>  hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where they are ??
[03:25] <Agent_bob> /var/log/*
[03:32] <the_hammer> i added this line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted still not getting flash 9
[03:32] <the_hammer> when i search
[03:32] <the_hammer> :/
[03:32] <the_hammer> i did sudo update command also
[03:33] <Agent_bob> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:33] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:33] <the_hammer> hw do u have edgy?
[03:33] <Agent_bob> !edgy
[03:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:33] <hw> the_hammer: is edgy 6.10?
[03:34] <hw> Hmm, then I've edgy :)
[03:34] <Agent_bob> !info flashplugin-nonfree dapper
[03:34] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:34] <oslo>  hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where they are ??
[03:34] <the_hammer> yes
[03:35] <raeez> !apt-fix
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <raeez> !aptfix
[03:35] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:35] <the_hammer> u added onto your sources list tho eh hw?
[03:38] <Jucato> the_hammer: but you have flashplugin-nonfree already installed?
[03:39] <Agent_bob> abattoir did they ever fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so console users could use it ?
[03:40] <parkerw207> all : what the helll?
[03:40] <Agent_bob> abattoir did they ever fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so console users could use it ?   (repeting)
[03:40] <abattoir> Agent_bob: sorry, i'm not familiar w/ the issue
[03:40] <nagyv> I can not upgrade the linux-headers-generic package, although adept says that I should.
[03:40] <hw> the_hammer: Have a look at my source list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4862/ Actually I dont know which gave me flash 9 ;)
[03:40] <nagyv> this is alos true for linux-image-generic and linux-rescticted-modules-generic
[03:40] <Agent_bob> i'll go see.
[03:41] <parkerw207> dont suppose linux will find my lost keys will it ! i mean it seems to do everything else lol
[03:41] <xenol> wat does this mean plz? Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:41] <xenol> dpkg aint working?
[03:41] <Agent_bob> You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If ynot attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam ch
[03:41] <Agent_bob> that's what console users get ^
[03:41] <Agent_bob> and javascript is enabled in elinks.
[03:42] <abattoir> Agent_bob: hmm, I personally don't know who runs it... may be a good idea to mail them :)
[03:43] <Agent_bob> abattoir i guess so.
[03:44] <mariella> eya
[03:44] <mariella> whats the easiest way to upgrade the kernel in kubuntu?
[03:44] <mariella> or, the entire system
[03:45] <Agent_bob> read the topic ?
[03:45] <xenol> !upgrade
[03:45] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:46] <mariella> ta xenol
[03:46] <xenol> =)
[03:46] <twoaday> how about apt-get
[03:46] <mariella> ive already upgraded there
[03:46] <mariella> but then i tried running this adept packager thing again
[03:46] <mem_> I hope I don't kill this machine again :(
[03:46] <mariella> and it says the kernel is ready for upgrade
[03:46] <mariella> so i requested an upgrade
[03:46] <mariella> and it didnt work
[03:46] <mariella> :(
[03:46] <Jucato> mariella: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[03:47] <mariella> nah, its cool
[03:47] <mariella> now that i know its a common error
[03:47] <mariella> :)
[03:47] <Agent_bob> read the topic ?  <<<  ^
[03:47] <twoaday> kewl
[03:47] <the_hammer> if ya use edgy and ya wanna get new kernels add this to your sources.list deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ trunk main
[03:47] <mem_> just out of curiousity - where is the topic?
[03:47] <mariella> k
[03:48] <Jucato> mem_: at the top of the channel or when you join a channel or when you type /topic
[03:48] <mem_> Honestly.. >.<
[03:48] <mem_> Thank you, and sorry
[03:48] <mem_> lol :)
[03:49] <oslo> hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs or my internet connections logs..
[03:49] <Agent_bob> "top of the channel" <<< assumes the same irc client that you use...  and the same settings in the irc client.    but the command /topic works for just about all clients.
[03:49] <mem_> I've seen you in here twice now.. my sound problem is back, but I'm focused on working out whether or not I'll be able to get Beryl working with my SIS video card?
[03:49] <mariella> ta the_hammer
[03:50] <mem_> It's up there Agent_bob. To be honest, if "Konversation" didn't log me straight into the support channel when I opened it.. I'd never have found it.
[03:50] <the_hammer> missing a tonf keys hw lol
[03:53] <mem_> .. what is the section called.. where its failed to launch KDE and you're at a black screen to login from there..?
[03:55] <Agent_bob> mem_   a  console
[03:55] <mem_> :) thank you
[03:55] <xenol> i got problems installing flash on edgy :O
[03:56] <the_hammer> im missing a ton of keys but i got the player u got hw ty
[03:56] <chronic1> anyone here installed GForge?
[03:56] <mem_> !console
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <hw> the_hammer: Which repository is it? =)
[03:58] <the_hammer> not sure i used your whole list lol
[03:58] <Agent_bob> mem_ there are by default 6 active consoles at all times unless in single user mode (safe mode)   they can be reached with the key combinations  [alt] +[ctrl] +[f#]   where # is the number of the tty (console) you wish to reach.  1-6 are running getty (the login prompt) and xorg runs in tty7  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f7]      by default...
[03:58] <Agent_bob> !cli | mem_
[03:58] <ubotu> mem_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:00] <mem_> You've probably realised by now I'm extremely new to this.  I have seen my bf using those screens, he has a basic debian version and it always starts in text. He said I should use ctrlaltbcspce to get to it but it just logs me out
[04:02] <mem_> I'll get there eventually. Doesn't help that the only time I get to look at it is 2am..
[04:02] <Agent_bob> mem_ yeah use [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1] 
[04:03] <xenol> i have problems with installijg flashplugin-nonfree it says
[04:03] <xenol> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[04:03] <xenol>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:03] <xenol> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:03] <xenol>  flashplugin-nonfree
[04:03] <xenol> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:03] <xenol> in terminal plz any ideas?
[04:03] <mem_> Saved by bob
[04:03] <Agent_bob> [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]  only kills xorg  it doesn't kill kdm/gdm/xdm  which started xorg and will restart it.
[04:04] <mem_> This is making more and more sense
[04:04] <Agent_bob> xenol in konsole; sudo dpkg --configure -a     and see what the error is?
[04:05] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[04:05] <mem_> I'm trying to create a file using this command .. $  sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh  but the command gedit can't be found. Am I missing a package for this, or is this to do with gnome and not KDE?
[04:05] <Ippatsu> mem_: try nano instead of gedit
[04:05] <Agent_bob> mem_ yeah  the gnome desktop.   try replacing gedit with kate
[04:06] <Agent_bob> assuming you are doing this in the gui
[04:06] <ScottK> And it should be kdesu, not just sudo.
[04:06] <xenol> Agent_bob:  dunno it does the same ask me if i want to isntall flash i press y and that thing happen but i realized now that i dont have edgy backports in my repo list so mayb thats the problem
[04:06] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[04:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:06] <mem_> nano worked.  This probably won't work though. I think I picked the hardest thing to do for my first ever linux thing
[04:07] <Agent_bob> xenol maybe.
[04:07] <mem_> Beryl/Kubuntu has heaps of information on nvidia ATI & radeon.. but not much on SIS
[04:08] <Agent_bob> !xgl
[04:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:08] <vbgunz> I have several updates but cannot apply them. Adept says, BREAK (UPGRADE), how do I fix this?
[04:08] <mem_> Am I pushing my luck?
[04:08] <rysiek|pl> what's up with the updates? I have three virtual packages in Adept Updater that are "upgradeable" but are marked as "no change"
[04:08] <Agent_bob> vbgunz read the topic.
[04:08] <Agent_bob> vbgunz it's the issue of the day.
[04:09] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: thanks :)
[04:09] <rysiek|pl> oh, vgbunz has the same problem
[04:09] <Agent_bob> rysiek|pl note the topic
[04:09] <rysiek|pl> yeah
[04:09] <Agent_bob> actually that issue landed in the repos yesterday i think...
[04:11] <xenol> Agent_bob: well can backports endanger stability od edgy_
[04:11] <xenol> ?
[04:12] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: yeah, it was yesterday I had the issue, I asked but no one knew. thanks for pointing out the topic
[04:12] <Agent_bob> if you are asking if it's possable, yes.  if you are asking if it's likely no.
[04:12] <Agent_bob> vbgunz np.    i ventured in yesterday and heard stdin and Jucato discussing it...
[04:13] <Jucato> : Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[04:13] <Agent_bob> is that a repost or a script Jucato ?
[04:14] <Agent_bob> i thought that might be automated...
[04:17] <xenol> how can i ask  for GPG key? wget and wat ?
[04:18] <mem_> $ wget [GPGINFO]  -O- | sudo apt-key add - I think?
[04:19] <ubuntu> s.a
[04:19] <xenol> well can be download slower due to fact i dont have gpgkey from that repo?
[04:19] <Agent_bob> dl time is not affected by gpg
[04:20] <Agent_bob> gpg checks the package after it's dl'd
[04:20] <mem_> thats as far as I get in helping right now.. wish I knew more
[04:20] <ubuntu> hey where is the kernel
[04:20] <xenol> check wat about it?
[04:20] <xenol> ubuntu: which kernel?
[04:20] <Agent_bob> ubuntu it's int the /topic
[04:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[04:20] <ubuntu> sikerim seni akll ol
[04:21] <LjL> !tr
[04:21] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[04:21] <ubuntu> turk yokmu imdi burda
[04:21] <LjL> !english
[04:21] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:22] <ubuntu> sikerim o english i
[04:22] <eMish_> packages.debian.org containe entry for iceape-browser. Why I 'apt-get install iceape.browser' say 'no such package' ?
[04:22] <LjL> !info iceape-browser
[04:23] <ubotu> Package iceape-browser does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[04:23] <LjL> are you quite sure?
[04:23] <LjL> oh you said *debian*.org
[04:23] <stdin> packages.debian.org ??
[04:23] <LjL> eMish_, a package that's in debian, especially testing/unstable, doesn't *have* to be in Ubuntu as well, though they often are
[04:24] <eMish_> Still, if i want to install it, can ?
[04:24] <eMish_> How ?
[04:24] <Agent_bob> eMish_ you should NOT use debian repos with ubuntu systems
[04:24] <theshadow> !beryl
[04:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:24] <LjL> !debian | eMish_
[04:24] <ubotu> eMish_: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[04:24] <Agent_bob> !source | eMish_
[04:24] <ubotu> eMish_: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:24] <LjL> what *is* iceape anyway? debian's renamed flavor of seamonkey, i suppose?
[04:25] <eMish_> yes
[04:25] <BluesKaj> seamonkey is just netscape in wetmonkey's clothing ;)
[04:26] <LjL> !mozilla-browser
[04:26] <ubotu> mozilla-browser: The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9797 kB, installed size 29720 kB
[04:26] <xenol> well guys i am running OO.o and just now koofice data installed do i need that?
[04:26] <LjL> probably the closest that's in our repos..
[04:26] <eMish_> all development of mozilla-browser is stopped but i use it. Just wanted to se how iceape is different
[04:27] <joaospinto> how can i unninstall kubuntu
[04:27] <eMish_> i like moz much better than firefox
[04:27] <joaospinto> through windows if possible
[04:27] <joaospinto> shall i just delete the partitions?
[04:27] <Agent_bob> joaospinto yes.
[04:27] <joaospinto> partition magic is ok for that?
[04:27] <LjL> joaospinto: yes. "uninstalling" an operating system doesn't really mean anything - you just put another one on the partition instead.
[04:27] <Agent_bob> and be sure that you fix the mbr
[04:28] <stdin> delete the partition, then restore the windows boot loader if you want it
[04:28] <icheyne> joaospinto, yes but you would have to fix your boot records too
[04:28] <xenol> joaospinto: www.microsoft.com and seach for how to delete linux
[04:28] <joaospinto> yes yes
[04:28] <joaospinto> ok
[04:28] <icheyne> joaospinto, bad move though :)
[04:28] <joaospinto> loooool
[04:28] <joaospinto> i am not gonna use windows
[04:28] <joaospinto> i think i am goona install gentoo
[04:29] <joaospinto> i want to test it, at least
[04:29] <icheyne> oh right
[04:29] <mem_> Time to see if this works. Wish me luck!
[04:29] <icheyne> Gentoo's installer might fix the kubuntu delete for you
[04:29] <joaospinto> but how can i reconfigure the boot loader
[04:29] <stdin> you can just install over kubuntu if it's another linux
[04:29] <joaospinto> will it auto-configure?
[04:29] <joaospinto> stdin
[04:29] <icheyne> gentoo might fix that
[04:29] <icheyne> probably
[04:29] <icheyne> worth a try
[04:29] <joaospinto> ok then
[04:29] <joaospinto> oh
[04:30] <joaospinto> and one more thing
[04:30] <joaospinto> the minimal cds
[04:30] <icheyne> ask at Gentoo channel
[04:30] <joaospinto> ok
[04:30] <joaospinto> ty :D
[04:30] <Agent_bob> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=review-winxp <<< joaospinto
[04:30] <Jucato> Agent_bob: regarding your question earlier. it was something I wrote in a command alias for easy repitition
[04:30] <Jucato> (the info about the kernel update)
[04:31] <Agent_bob> yes it looked plastic Jucato  :)
[04:31] <stdin> and then I coppied it :P
[04:31] <pinheiro-office> ridel ping again sory
[04:31] <Jucato> and then I leave stdin to do the repeating
[04:31] <pinheiro-office> Riddell:
[04:32] <Agent_bob> :)
[04:32] <vk6five> In Gnome the locaton is '/usr/share/applications' wherefor art thou to use in KDE? this is for a x.desktop file
[04:32] <Riddell> pinheiro-office: hi
[04:32] <Riddell> vk6five: same place, it's standard
[04:32] <pinheiro-office> hi Riddell hu is taking kare of the akademy page 2007
[04:32] <Agent_bob> plastic firecracker   :)
[04:33] <Riddell> pinheiro-office: me and kenny
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> i want to stra working on that one
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> hehehhe
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> cool
[04:33] <Riddell> pinheiro-office: cool, please do, we're in #akademy2007
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> cool
[04:34] <vk6five> ah ok... having made them... what am i supposed to look for?? [I'm installing AVG]  following the walk thru of debianadmin.
[04:34] <vk6five> I've written two x.desktop files .. I thought I was making a couple of desktop scripts
[04:35] <pinheiro-office> Riddell:  can we set up some kind of meeting so you guys can state your grafical needs and i start to work on it
[04:36] <xenol> i made things with how to  and flash still aint working :(
[04:37] <Yasim> Somebody knows how to compile #C files?
[04:37] <stdin> !compile
[04:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:37] <Agent_bob> and don't forget to start by installing "build-essential"
[04:38] <Yasim> I just need the "stdio.h" library to start.
[04:38] <Agent_bob> no you need a compiler.
[04:38] <Agent_bob> so install build-essential
[04:38] <Yasim> yes, I have four.
[04:38] <Agent_bob> ok.
[04:38] <Jucato> four what?
[04:38] <Yasim> Monodevelop.
[04:38] <Yasim> Geany.
[04:39] <Yasim> KDevelop-.
[04:39] <Yasim> (four compilers)
[04:39] <Jucato> Yasim: you have installed "build-essential"?
[04:39] <Yasim> wait, i'm searching.
[04:39] <Agent_bob> none of those are a compiler tho.....
[04:39] <Jucato> they're IDE's
[04:39] <ubuntu> helloo allz
[04:39] <ubuntu> :)
[04:40] <ubuntu> nick niKon
[04:40] <vk6five> the walk thru is for Gnome and it isn't so simple in KDE (apparently) -- also when recompilling the rpm to deb I included the scripts the second time - as this wasn't in the walk thru, but was a hint in the running of alias.
[04:40] <niKon> god
[04:40] <niKon> :)
[04:40] <Yasim> Uh... sorry, they have the "compile button" so I thing that there where compilers :$.
[04:40] <Jucato> Yasim: installing build-essential will install everything you need to compile, including the headers
[04:40] <Yasim> ok, I'm downloading just now.
[04:40] <Yasim> thanks to everyone.
[04:41] <Agent_bob> in the kubuntu help channel most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions"
[04:44] <xenol> how can i add java plugin or whatever to konqueror?
[04:45] <Yasim> another question, I want to have Xfce (i'm on Kubuntu) , so I downloaded "xfce4" , but there isn't working pretty well, I need to download something more?
[04:45] <ForgeAus> install it from adept
[04:45] <ForgeAus> sun java or blackdown
[04:45] <ForgeAus> either or
[04:45] <ForgeAus> depending on your needs
[04:45] <ForgeAus> theres also a mozilla plugin
[04:45] <hatta> Yasim, try xubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <hatta> `aptitude install xubuntu-desktop` that is
[04:46] <xenol> ForgeAus:  well i dotn want any developer version just plugin to konqueror :p
[04:46] <ForgeAus> well its not exactly a plugin to konqueror specifically
[04:46] <Agent_bob> 1
[04:46] <Yasim> I think I've tried thtat, but doesn't works.
[04:46] <Agent_bob> .
[04:46] <Agent_bob> 2
[04:46] <Agent_bob> ooops
[04:46] <ForgeAus> just get one of the java packages, it will install the right stuff (yo odn't need jse j2ee, etc just to run an applett
[04:46] <stdin> xenol: konqu used the mozilla one afaik
[04:47] <vk6five> So having dkpg -i the newly aliened file.... I hav gedited the following and one other for initiating and update.... WHY can't I find the program and Where should I look to sort out the mess?
[04:47] <vk6five> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/avg.desktop
[04:47] <ForgeAus> stdin yeah I think it does too
[04:47] <vk6five> enter the following lines Save and exit the file
[04:47] <vk6five> File:/usr/share/applications/avg.desktop
[04:47] <vk6five> [Desktop Entry] 
[04:47] <vk6five> Name=AVG Antivirus
[04:47] <vk6five> Comment=Antivirus
[04:47] <vk6five> Exec=avggui &
[04:47] <vk6five> Icon=/opt/grisoft/avggui/prog/pixmaps/avgico_big.png
[04:47] <vk6five> Terminal=false
[04:47] <vk6five> Type=Application
[04:47] <vk6five> Categories=Application;System;
[04:47] <stdin> !paste | vk6five
[04:47] <ubotu> vk6five: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <vk6five> oh  ... starting from [Desktop] 
[04:48] <xenol> ForgeAus:  so  sun is enough?M
[04:48] <ForgeAus> (Xenon I odn't mean ALL java packages)
[04:48] <ForgeAus> should b
[04:48] <xenol> i know
[04:48] <stdin> xenol: just grab sun-java5-plugin
[04:48] <BluesKaj> AVG isn't wrtiiten fot linux , for one thing
[04:48] <Agent_bob> vk6five just a clue, dpkg -L packagename  to list everything it installed....
[04:48] <ForgeAus> yup thats the one
[04:48] <ForgeAus> (or java6?)
[04:49] <vk6five> danke BOB
[04:49] <stdin> ForgeAus: java6 available on feisty
[04:49] <vk6five> that would be a start.
[04:49] <stdin> !info sun-java6-jre feisty
[04:49] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2 (feisty), package size 6175 kB, installed size 14144 kB
[04:49] <ForgeAus> must be in edgy backports or proposed then
[04:49] <Agent_bob> d'nada vk6five
[04:49] <Yasim> i'm trying to install "xubuntu-desktop" but it gives somre problem with packages
[04:49] <ForgeAus> coz I'm using edgy and I got it
[04:50] <Yasim> (evince-gtk -or- evince)
[04:50] <ForgeAus> Yasim sounds tuff... what kind of problems?
[04:51] <ForgeAus> (kde has kpdf for pdf files)
[04:51] <Agent_bob> Yasim /topic   as long as there is a repos problem it may affect the installation of anything.
[04:51] <tapas> ~$ nmblookup "*" finds my smb server
[04:51] <tapas> but entering smb:/ in konqueror fails to find anything
[04:51] <tapas> why's that?
[04:51] <ForgeAus> the file formats evince shows should work in kpdf afaik....
[04:51] <Yasim> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[04:51] <Yasim>   xubuntu-desktop: Depende: evince-gtk pero no va a instalarse o
[04:51] <Yasim>                             evince pero no va a instalarse
[04:51] <ForgeAus> if you need something better perhaps try kile?
[04:51] <vk6five> BluesKaj: It does seem to have been ported and debianadmin have a walk thru for the instelliation of the package... It hasn't as yet been officially put together for degbian or ubunto though.
[04:52] <Yasim> I don't know how to translate :(.
[04:52] <ForgeAus> (a more full latex typesetting app)
[04:52] <Agent_bob>   (https://launchpad.net/bugs/83976)
[04:52] <ForgeAus> evince gtk and evince (non-gtk) can't be installed together
[04:52] <BluesKaj> vk6five, who ported it for linux , AVG themselves or ...?
[04:52] <ForgeAus> either one of them is fine anyway
[04:52] <vk6five> sheesh I should look at the keys I'm hitting at this hour of the morning ... lol
[04:53] <xenol> is java and java plugin automaticaly isntalled in konqueror?
[04:53] <FringeJacket> help: claculations in kubuntu.... IDK how... can someone tell me the calculator function whle I go get tea????
[04:53] <ForgeAus> the GTK one is probably just a more Gnome-customized version
[04:53] <vk6five> Yes AVG have on there site 3 .rpm's for redhat,suse, and one other
[04:53] <BluesKaj> hmmm, can't seem to get FF to open full scrn , forgotten how to fix that
[04:53] <vk6five> their site
[04:54] <ForgeAus> Grisoft actually
[04:54] <Yasim> anyway, I can compile now!, but I can't execute the programs, it says 'permision denied'.
[04:54] <ForgeAus> on free.grisoft.com
[04:54] <theshadow> !beryl
[04:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:54] <BluesKaj> I believe so xenol
[04:54] <stdin> xenol: yeah, once you install it konqueror will use it
[04:54] <ForgeAus> its been there for a while now
[04:54] <vk6five> grisoft is the maker of AVG so that's basically the same thung, right.
[04:54] <ForgeAus> (the rpms I mean)
[04:54] <ForgeAus> yes vk6five
[04:55] <xenol> ForgeAus:  well grisoft is czech corp and i dont have good experience with AVG AV software
[04:55] <manom> !beryl
[04:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:55] <xenol> stdin: so i need to dl sun java5-plugin?
[04:55] <ForgeAus> really? I havn't had any trouble with it, unlike Norton Anti-virus
[04:55] <stdin> xeno
[04:55] <stdin> arr
[04:55] <stdin> xenol: enable multiverse, then install the package
[04:55] <ForgeAus> but then AVG for Linux might be a different animal I know little about it
[04:55] <vk6five> are there any good free av soft packages for simple kbuntu install ???
[04:56] <stdin> !antivirus
[04:56] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:56] <ForgeAus> clamav?
[04:56] <stdin> !linuxvirus
[04:56] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:56] <stdin> !virus
[04:56] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:56] <xenol> stdin:  i build my repo in source o matic and dunno if multiverse is there
[04:57] <Yasim> Ok, I can execute programas now, thanks!.
[04:57] <ForgeAus> no problem Yasim
[04:57] <stdin> xenol: open konsole and so "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" you'll find out then :)
[04:58] <ForgeAus> is it just me or is XFCE kinda like a Gnome-lite?
[04:59] <stdin> enlightenment is a nice environment
[04:59] <hatta> well it's a desktop environemnt-lite
[04:59] <Agent_bob> !source-o-matic
[04:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:00] <theshadow> where is the KDE startup directory?
[05:01] <Agent_bob> !easyubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:01] <stdin> !autostart
[05:01] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:01] <ForgeAus> stdin I like most of the Windows Managers I've tried out
[05:01] <ForgeAus> Fluxbox is nice and small its quite professional in design and feel but very minimal....
[05:01] <theshadow> ty
[05:01] <ForgeAus> KDE is much freer with options
[05:02] <Agent_bob> !klamav
[05:02] <ubotu> klamav: KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.37-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2256 kB
[05:02] <ForgeAus> ami-wm is an interesting one for Amiga fans... gives you a workbench-like desktop... but again not very configurable... extremely light tho...
[05:02] <ForgeAus> Oroboros is one for ROX but I odn't know much about that one
[05:02] <Agent_bob> yeah   blackbox/fluxbox  is my fav.
[05:03] <ForgeAus> XFCE like I said before to me seems like a cross between fluxbox and gnome!...
[05:03] <ForgeAus> FVWM is ok but its kinda old
[05:04] <Agent_bob> vfce is good but too heavy for my taste
[05:04] <stdin> fluxbox is nice, as far as light WMs go, but I love KDE too much to really get in to it :P
[05:04] <ForgeAus> another one I like is WindowsMaker...
[05:04] <Agent_bob> but hey i like twm ....
[05:04] <ForgeAus> lol AgentBob
[05:04] <pontus> I have an executable that has "-rwxr-xr-x" set and is owned by me. But still I get "Permission denied" what could be wrong?
[05:04] <ForgeAus> grrr WindowMaker
[05:04] <ForgeAus> its a Next-step like windows manager
[05:05] <ForgeAus> btw AgentBob there is a Fluxbuntu distribution
[05:05] <Agent_bob> icewm/windowmaker  yeah
[05:05] <theshadow> in the package update manager (adept) its showing two available updates one is linux-image-386 and if I request update on it, it says "BREAK (upgrade)" what does that mean?
[05:05] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus really ?
[05:05] <stdin> theshadow: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[05:06] <ForgeAus> (their icon is way too close to Xubuntu's without the rat imho... kinda looks like an AFTER pic (if Xubuntu's is the before) becasue the inner circle is "eaten out" a bit...
[05:06] <ForgeAus> yeah but its not an official one with the Ubuntu people
[05:06] <stdin> dose no one ever read the topic :P
[05:06] <Agent_bob> !topic | theshadow
[05:06] <ubotu> theshadow: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:06] <FringeJacket> help: claculations in kubuntu.... IDK how... can someone tell me the calculator function
[05:07] <ForgeAus> fringe, theres serveral calculator apps
[05:07] <Agent_bob> stdin no.
[05:07] <stdin> FringeJacket: speedcrunch is a calculator that's installed by default
[05:07] <hatta> I like bc
[05:07] <ForgeAus> qcalc?
[05:07] <hatta> dc is good too if you know RPN
[05:07] <ForgeAus> or is it QT calc something like that..
[05:08] <ForgeAus> hatta some are RPN optional even!
[05:08] <Agent_bob> FringeJacket dc puts calc functions in other apps...
[05:08] <ForgeAus> RPN remidns me of Lisp/Scheme languages...
[05:08] <ForgeAus> they aren't infix
[05:08] <hatta> to be honest though, perl is the best calculator
[05:09] <ForgeAus> how about haskell?
[05:09] <hatta> don't know it
[05:09] <ForgeAus> :)
[05:09] <Agent_bob> bc/dc is it     bash does non-decimaled simple math.  echo $((1024 * 1024 * 1024))
[05:10] <stdin> awk will
[05:10] <stdin> decimals I mean
[05:10] <Roey> hi all again
[05:10] <Roey> question question:
[05:10] <Roey> how do I change my console font
[05:10] <Roey> ?
[05:10] <Roey> it's disgusting
[05:11] <Roey> thank you :)
[05:11] <parkerw207> how do i use a rpm ?
[05:11] <Agent_bob> yeah *awk and perl do math much better than bash ever thought of.
[05:11] <parkerw207> i donwloading limewire
[05:11] <stdin> !rpm | parkerw207
[05:11] <ubotu> parkerw207: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:11] <stdin> !limewire | parkerw207
[05:11] <ubotu> parkerw207: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:11] <Agent_bob> parkerw207 i don't.
[05:12] <parkerw207> thanks
[05:12] <FringeJacket> roey, thats one I can help with
[05:12] <Roey> oh, cool!
[05:13] <Roey> (there is a default debian one that I like)
[05:13] <parkerw207> do i have to unzip that file ?
[05:13] <Roey> for 80x25
[05:14] <stdin> parkerw207: why not use frostwire, it's just an open-source version of limewire, and is easy to install
[05:14] <FringeJacket> roey, its in the setting koncole settings under encoding
[05:14] <xenol> stdin:  java  int working
[05:14] <parkerw207> ooo frostwire ?
[05:14] <Roey> FringeJacket:  ok
[05:14] <parkerw207> is it on adept?
[05:14] <stdin> !frostwire
[05:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:14] <xenol> stdin: and i loaded plugins in konqueror
[05:14] <Roey> FringeJacket:  (this is the text console I mean, is that what you're referring to as well?)
[05:14] <stdin> parkerw207: follow that link
[05:14] <parkerw207> ok thank
[05:14] <Roey> FringeJacket:  there's an /etc file for it, right?
[05:14] <ScarFreewill> !ddrescue
[05:14] <ubotu> ddrescue: copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:14] <stdin> Roey: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[05:15] <Roey> stdin:  thanks
[05:15] <Agent_bob> Roey man consolechars
[05:15] <Agent_bob> you can have different fonts per console
[05:15] <stdin> xenol: hmm, maybe you need to run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[05:16] <kkosmo> stdin
[05:16] <kkosmo> ?
[05:16] <ScarFreewill> i can use ddrescue to make a folder into a file right?
[05:16] <stdin> kkosmo: do you have to use enter as punctuation ?
[05:16] <kkosmo> i fix my problem
[05:16] <kkosmo> my lest
[05:16] <kkosmo> but i have more problem now i dont see pictures in firefox
[05:16] <kkosmo> i dont know why
[05:16] <stdin> ScarFreewill: you can just tar it for that
[05:17] <Agent_bob> !info console-setup dapper
[05:17] <stdin> kkosmo: I have no idea
[05:17] <ubotu> Package console-setup does not exist in dapper
[05:17] <Agent_bob> !info console-setup edgy
[05:17] <ubotu> console-setup: Setup the font and the keyboard on the console. In component main, is important. Version 1.7ubuntu19 (edgy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[05:18] <ScarFreewill> stdin: yeah, but doesn't windows infilltrate tars and spam stuff like tumbles all over it?
[05:19] <xenol> stdin: i got some others java isntalled
[05:19] <stdin> ScarFreewill: just change the extention then
[05:19] <xenol> stdin:  i want to remove them but dont know which r from which is there any commands that cleans away all packages ?
[05:20] <stdin> xenol: how many do you have ?
[05:20] <xenol> stdin: 3
[05:20] <ScarFreewill> stdin: thanks for thinking logical for me ;)
[05:20] <xenol> stdin: no 2
[05:21] <parkerw207> you know that frost wire ?
[05:21] <xenol> stdin: want to remove all packages of sun-java5 and configure the OSS one
[05:21] <parkerw207> why dos it keep downloading it as code
[05:21] <parkerw207> and show it in a text editior ?
[05:21] <stdin> parkerw207: it's because of the sever, just right click it then save link as
[05:22] <stdin> xenol: if you want the plugin, you need the sun version, and, btw, suns java is now oss
[05:22] <parkerw207> it says " download.php"
[05:22] <parkerw207> as the filename
[05:23] <xenol> i have to now gij wrapper and sun stdin
[05:24] <xenol> stdin:  can i remove that wrapper?
[05:24] <stdin> parkerw207: rename it, doesn't matter what you call it as long as it ends in .deb
[05:24] <parkerw207> it ends in php @S
[05:24] <Agent_bob> yeah people building websites out of index.php in place of intex.html  nowa days kinda P'z me off.
[05:24] <RRiChIe> hi all
[05:24] <parkerw207> dont worry i got it lol
[05:24] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, just rename it after
[05:25] <RRiChIe> please do you know the release date of heirdy ?
[05:25] <stdin> xenol: if you want, just remove the package gij-4.1
[05:26] <stdin> RRiChIe: heiery?
[05:26] <Agent_bob> heirdy ?
[05:26] <RRiChIe> Feisty Fawn i mean
[05:26] <stdin> !feisty | RRiChIe
[05:26] <ubotu> RRiChIe: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <RRiChIe> ok thank you
[05:27] <stdin> I think you meant herd (the code name for the development releases)
[05:27] <RRiChIe> ok (sorry for my bad english)
[05:28] <xenol> stdin:  ok i have multimedia flash java running wat do i need?
[05:28] <geniusvicks> I run KDE, I followed the instructions on "http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX" but got stuck here sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:28] <geniusvicks> The command doesnt work
[05:28] <stdin> geniusvicks: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:29] <stdin> xenol: you have java, just get flash now
[05:29] <geniusvicks> stdin, does it matter that I installed Beryl before typing "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" ?
[05:29] <stdin> geniusvicks: no
[05:30] <parkerw207> stdin
[05:30] <parkerw207> i downloaded it
[05:30] <parkerw207> installed it using that kpacketmanager or what ever it
[05:30] <parkerw207> and its in my menu and wen i lcick it , it says its loading then it just doesnt show
[05:31] <xenol> stdin: flash is taken care of done so i have flash java multimedia issues done wat else do i need for general using?
[05:31] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, it's a small bug, easy fix
[05:31] <parkerw207> how ?
[05:31] <stdin> parkerw207: just run "kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire" and change "sh runFrost.sh" to "bash runFrost.sh"
[05:32] <stdin> xenol: maybe mp3 ? and w32codecs
[05:32] <xenol> stdin: done
[05:32] <parkerw207> fialed to open device stdin ?
[05:32] <stdin> parkerw207: did you use kdesu?
[05:32] <parkerw207> what is kdesu?
[05:32] <stdin> xenol: that's about it then
[05:33] <stdin> !kdesu | parkerw207
[05:33] <ubotu> parkerw207: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:33] <parkerw207> yeah i did
[05:33] <vk6five> OK having played around a bit I have run and updated avg.  Now can ppl tell me pls, where to stick a file like x.desktop to appear in the kde 'K Menu'?
[05:33] <stdin> parkerw207: where did you run it form?
[05:33] <parkerw207> console?
[05:34] <stdin> vk6five: /usr/share/applications/
[05:34] <stdin> parkerw207: just press Alt-F2, and put it in there
[05:34] <vk6five> stdin: that's where it is... but I see NOTHING on the 'K Menu'
[05:34] <Agent_bob> konsole != console
[05:35] <stdin> vk6five: have you restarted kicker/logged out and back in?
[05:35] <xenol> stdin: i got issue with turning of pc from kdm need to use konsole any ideas if new kernel will fix it?
[05:35] <parkerw207> hhhm stdin
[05:36] <parkerw207> all i get it
[05:36] <vk6five> heh <sheepish grin> Yeah, good idea -- why didn't I think of that.
[05:36] <parkerw207> is*
[05:36] <parkerw207> oo dont owrry
[05:36] <Agent_bob> kbuildsycoca
[05:36] <CaseyOmah> Is there no longer a Multiverse as of Edgy?
[05:36] <stdin> CaseyOmah: yes there is multivers in edgy
[05:37] <Agent_bob> kbuildsycoca incrmental   or some such.
[05:37] <stdin> xenol: maybe, check the pug reports and file one if there isn't one
[05:37] <CaseyOmah> The default sources doesn't list one, so I wanted to ask.
[05:37] <parkerw207> ok stdin i did what you said and it still does the same thing
[05:37] <Roey> thanks stdin
[05:37] <stdin> parkerw207: you saved the file?
[05:37] <Agent_bob>   --noincremental           Disable incremental update, re-read everything
[05:37] <parkerw207> yep
[05:37] <stdin> Roey: no problem
[05:38] <parkerw207> i can show you what i wrote
[05:38] <stdin> parkerw207: ok
[05:38] <parkerw207> stdin :bash /usr/lib/frostwire/bash runFrostwire.sh
[05:38] <vk6five> Is there a simple way of be initiating the menu without dumping the desktop and relogging? services or sumthin like that. [remember, I'm rusty with acient knowledge getting in the way of 'enough to be dangerous' -to the system not the world... lol
[05:39] <CaseyOmah> vk6five: You'
[05:39] <CaseyOmah> vk6five: You're asking about updating the K Menu?
[05:39] <stdin> parkerw207: the line should read "bash runFrost.sh"
[05:39] <Agent_bob> vk6five kbuildsycoca
[05:39] <Agent_bob> !kbuildsycoca
  If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache
[05:40] <parkerw207> thats all?
[05:40] <parkerw207> just bash runfrost.sh ?
[05:40] <stdin> parkerw207: CaseSensitive
[05:40] <parkerw207> oo
[05:41] <parkerw207> but thats all yes ?
[05:41] <stdin> parkerw207: the file should have three lines
[05:41] <parkerw207> delete the rst and just have : bash runFrost.sh
[05:41] <parkerw207> ooo wel mine only has one :S
[05:41] <vk6five> yes CaseyOmah
[05:41] <vk6five> thankyou BOB
[05:42] <Popoi> Hi, this a stupid question but: what's the name of the app to untar and unzip included on Kubuntu Desktop?
[05:42] <Agent_bob> vk6five stderr ?
[05:42] <parkerw207> stdin : so i dunno what wrong with it
[05:42] <Agent_bob> heh  2>&1    now go be stdout.
[05:42] <stdin> parkerw207: it should look like this http://pastebin.ca/347700
[05:43] <vk6five> that'd be ARK, no?
[05:43] <stdin> Popoi: yeah, ark
[05:43] <parkerw207> stdin shoul di just put that in ?
[05:43] <khaije1> hi
[05:43] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah
[05:43] <parkerw207> delete the rest ?
[05:43] <Popoi> oh yeah ARK, Thanks
[05:43] <stdin> parkerw207: so it just has those 3 lines in it
[05:44] <ant1matter> hey all, im having weird issues with kde 3.5.6. Ive completely removed it twice, cleared all kde files from user directories and everytime i reinstall even kdebase and kdelibs only my control-center is empty and most of the apps are stuck in Lost and Found on the K Menu. Any ideas? im running edgy.
[05:44] <parkerw207> yeah i am stdin
[05:44] <parkerw207> stdin its just sitting there loading :S
[05:44] <parkerw207> and its dont the same thing
[05:44] <geniusvicks> stdin, I have a problem with beryl. Tell me a pastebin site, i'll paste the eror there
[05:44] <parkerw207> just disapreared
[05:44] <stdin> ant1matter: make sure you are up to date, it was a bug in an earlier version
[05:44] <khaije1> i followed the instructions here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Firefox32_with_Flash.2C_Java_in_AMD64 but get a permission denied message. any help?
[05:44] <Popoi> Another thing.. I'm trying to change my default windows manager from Konkeror to Dolphin; I use 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager', and it says: 'There is only 1 program which provides x-window-manager. (/usr/bin/kwin). Nothing to configure'. How can I do it?
[05:44] <ant1matter> stdin: ive upgraded as much as i could
[05:45] <stdin> geniusvicks: http://pastebin.ca
[05:45] <ant1matter> stdin: is there another repo i should point to?
[05:45] <stdin> khaije1: follow *this* guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:45] <khaije1> stdin: cool, thx dood!
[05:45] <stdin> parkerw207: if you run it from konsole, what do you see ?
[05:46] <parkerw207> how di run it from console ?
[05:46] <stdin> ant1matter: which one do you have?
[05:46] <stdin> parkerw207: open Konsole, then type in: frostwire
[05:46] <geniusvicks> stdin, http://pastebin.ca/347705
[05:46] <stdin> parkerw207: and I mean Konsole, not a console
[05:46] <parkerw207> i'll bin it
[05:47] <parkerw207> hehe
[05:47] <ant1matter> stdin:  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main
[05:47] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <stdin> geniusvicks: that's fine, you can ignore that
[05:47] <parkerw207> stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4877/
[05:48] <stdin> ant1matter: that's the right one, try asking in #kubuntu-devel
[05:48] <ant1matter> stdin: ok thanks
[05:48] <stdin> parkerw207: hmm, have you installed java yet ?
[05:48] <geniusvicks> stdin, but I dont see any difference.
[05:48] <Agent_bob> hmmm using links for a file manager, how would you delete a file ?
[05:49] <stdin> geniusvicks: just press alt-f2, and in there type "beryl-manager"
[05:49] <ScarFreewill1> Agent_bob: links as in the web browser ? :P
[05:49] <parkerw207> errmm how do instal java/
[05:49] <stdin> parkerw207: do you have multiverse enabled ?
[05:50] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I've just got the ATI Graphics card install driver for Kubuntu. I ran it in the terminal, and followed all the settings, and now in my start menu I have an "ATI Technology" option. However when I click nothing happens? And I can't change the screen size in my Monitor + Display section?
[05:50] <soulrider> hello
[05:50] <parkerw207> yep
[05:50] <parkerw207> multiverse enabled
[05:50] <ScarFreewill1> hi soulrider
[05:51] <stdin> parkerw207: ok, just install the package "sun-java5-jre" then run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose the one that looks like "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java"
[05:51] <fritsch> ant1matter: yes it is the correct one
[05:51] <ScarFreewill1> sun java 6 is out btw...
[05:51] <fritsch> ant1matter: still there?
[05:52] <Riddell> ant1matter: what's in /etc/xdg/menus/ ?
[05:52] <BluesKaj> parkerw207, sun-java6-jre_1.6.0_01-ea-b01_i386.deb...or whatever CPU you are running , there's a 64 bit as well i believe
[05:52] <soulrider> ScarFreewill1: it has been out for a while already
[05:52] <BluesKaj> stdin, how goes it ? ... I've forgotten how to get FF to open to full page on launch. It's a minor irritation, but it bugs me nonetheless ... do you remember ?
[05:52] <ant1matter> fritsch: yep
[05:52] <soulrider> any java programmers here ?
[05:52] <ant1matter> soulrider: yep
[05:52] <geniusvicks> stdin, I get this error "The Composite manager has crashed twice in a minute and is therefore disabled for this session"
[05:52] <parkerw207> stdin ok thanks
[05:52] <ant1matter> Riddell: im currently reinstalling using the metapackage
[05:52] <soulrider> ant1matter: do you know if you can still use generics on arraylists on java6 ? i tried it and eclipse was complaining
[05:52] <ScarFreewill1> soulrider: i'm a learning one
[05:53] <ant1matter> soulrider: which jdk are you using?
[05:53] <soulrider> 6
[05:53] <ant1matter> soulrider: from Sun?
[05:53] <soulrider> i used ti be able to use generics on 5
[05:53] <soulrider> yeah
[05:53] <ant1matter> soulrider: might be a bug - not sure - check the eclipse group
[05:53] <stdin> BluesKaj: maybe with kstart, or by right clicking the title bar -> advanced -> Special Application Settings
[05:54] <soulrider> ahh alright
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: what kubuntu realse are you currently using?
[05:54] <stdin> geniusvicks: did you make the right changes to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:54] <geniusvicks> I get this error "The Composite manager has crashed twice in a minute and is therefore disabled for this session"  when I try to chose Beryl as my window manager
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: you are on edgy? if yes, your "package line" is correct
[05:54] <ant1matter> fritsch: 3.5.6
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: this is your kde version
[05:54] <ant1matter> fritsch: yes edgy
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: oki
[05:54] <geniusvicks> let me check
[05:54] <parkerw207> stdin it said i could install that package
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: please try installing the meta package
[05:54] <ant1matter> ubuntu1
[05:54] <parkerw207> said there was an error
[05:55] <ant1matter> fritsch: doing that right now
[05:55] <stdin> parkerw207: what error ?
[05:55] <ScarFreewill1> !ping
[05:55] <ubotu> pong
[05:55] <parkerw207> one sec
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: oki :-)
[05:55] <vk6five> knotify is a mail notification daemon for pop3 mail right?
[05:55] <ant1matter> fritsch: thanks for the help ;)
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: does it work?
[05:55] <parkerw207> i'll bin it
[05:55] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[05:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <ant1matter> fritsch: still downloading ;)
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: mmmh, i think you could help me bett, because i am no developer ;-)
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: better does this mean
[05:56] <parkerw207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4878/
[05:56] <ant1matter> fritsch: ive been a programmer for 8 years - its literally taken years OFF my life i think ;)
[05:56] <fritsch> ant1matter: hehe
[05:56] <geniusvicks> stdin, there was a line aying Load "vbe" in the main file. I also added Load "dbe". THants okay right?
[05:57] <stdin> parkerw207: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then try "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[05:57] <ant1matter> fritsch: went from c-c++-java-now im into rubyonrails
[05:57] <fritsch> ant1matter: me went from haskell into java, from there ice cold into c++
[05:57] <parkerw207> stin : dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[05:57] <fritsch> ant1matter: but i am not good at all
[05:57] <fritsch> !ruby
[05:57] <stdin> geniusvicks: can you post the file to pastebin, so I can check it ?
[05:57] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:57] <geniusvicks> stdin ok
[05:57] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: check it out - its the new rage
[05:58] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: ok
[05:58] <stdin> parkerw207: ok, try this "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[05:58] <ant1matter> From someone like me who has been bogged down by corporate BS and endless process crap - ruby on rails is a dream.
[05:58] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: i've been programing with with java and php for a yeah almost
[05:58] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: cool
[05:58] <parkerw207> its asking if i want to kll the process ?
[05:58] <fritsch> ScarFreewill1: php does not count *G*
[05:59] <ant1matter> fritsch: HA HA
[05:59] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, kill it
[05:59] <parkerw207> ok now what ?
[05:59] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: i take it as a subject at school but they teach you only how to use strings and ints and array wow, LOL :P
[05:59] <wizz33> hello
[05:59] <vk6five> ne1?
[05:59] <vk6five> ne1?
[05:59] <stdin> parkerw207: now run "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[05:59] <vk6five> knotify is a mail notification daemon for pop3 mail right?
[06:00] <hatta> ruby on rails, sounds like a song about a chick with a coke problem
[06:00] <fritsch> stdin: java6 ist already out for edgy? isn `t it?
[06:00] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: YES ive been there. My first job out of college was java, c, c++, unix and ORACLE. All new to me - I had no life but had a great time. That was a longggg time ago.
[06:00] <stdin> fritsch: don't know, I'm on feisty atm
[06:00] <ant1matter> hatta: yeah i know. I saw it for a long time and thought it was a joke but it really rocks.
[06:00] <fritsch> stdin: then there is it for sue
[06:00] <fritsch> stdin: for sure
[06:00] <vk6five> do I want to know what the Ruby-project is?
[06:01] <parkerw207> Stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4879/
[06:01] <fritsch> !sun-java6-jdk
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java6-jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <ant1matter> go to rubyonrails.com
[06:01] <fritsch> stdin: mmmh i got it installed
[06:01] <fritsch> stdin: on edgy and on feisty
[06:01] <stdin> fritsch: it may be in -backports
[06:01] <ant1matter> ruby has been around for years - great scripting language. Biggest competitor i think is python.
[06:01] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: i'm making a fps as a project i'm going to get like 9999999%
[06:01] <fritsch> stdin: it is from multiverse
[06:01] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: thats cool - what language you writing it in?
[06:01] <cox377> i need a bit of advice
[06:02] <vk6five> ah thks ant1
[06:02] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: java with some jme help...
[06:02] <geniusvicks> stdin, here it is http://pastebin.ca/347720
[06:02] <stdin> fritsch: yeah?
[06:02] <Agent_bob> "so you mean that it's exactly the same in every respect, except for the fact that, it's totally different and completly unrelated?"
[06:02] <fritsch> stdin: yes, even for amd64
[06:02] <vk6five> ps did I miss the answer on knotify?
[06:02] <Rossim1> i need help with network manager, for some reason wireless disconnects on me every few minutes
[06:02] <parkerw207> stdin: i got this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4879/
[06:02] <stdin> parkerw207: do you have adept open or somethinf ?
[06:02] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: cool - i was using opengl with glut years ago for gis stuff - fun
[06:02] <cox377> i was just playing around with the appearance settins under kde and i changed the icon size to bigger for the tool bar, but now when i go back i cant change the % back to 22% and some of the icons are not showing on the toolbar
[06:02] <cox377> is there anyway to reset KDE?
[06:02] <fritsch> stdin: but no browserplugin ... but does not really matter, ist long as flash is just working in the chroot
[06:02] <parkerw207> lol ooo yeah !
[06:02] <parkerw207> ha haha
[06:03] <fritsch> cox377: there is, you want an asycnronious one or a synchronious one?
[06:03] <ant1matter> \leave Restaring-in gnome(yuk) kubuntu reinstall done!
[06:03] <stdin> geniusvicks: ok, that looks good
[06:03] <cox377> fritsch: what do u mean?
[06:04] <fritsch> cox377: with the async you will loose all your kde setting, kopete, passwords, kmail settings ...
[06:04] <cox377> fritsch: ahh ok
[06:04] <cox377> what about with sync?
[06:04] <stdin> !info sun-java6-plugin feisty
[06:04] <ubotu> sun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:04] <fritsch> cox377: mmmh hardway ;-)
[06:04] <cox377> how do u do the async?
[06:04] <vk6five> mmm kill -8 knotify .... anyone think that's abad idea?
[06:04] <geniusvicks> stdin, so what do I do now?
[06:05] <cox377> fritsch: does that mean thunderbird & firefox also?
[06:05] <fritsch> cox377: nope
[06:05] <cox377> ok
[06:05] <parkerw207> ok stdin it says its installed , is that it now ?
[06:05] <stdin> geniusvicks: I think you need to logout and back in again, then press Alt-F2, and type in: baryl-manager
[06:05] <fritsch> cox377: only kde programms which store there config in /home/yourlogin/.kde
[06:05] <cox377> fritsch: ok cool
[06:05] <parkerw207> ahhh its works :)
[06:05] <stdin> parkerw207: try starting frostwire now
[06:05] <cox377> how do i go about doing iot?
[06:05] <fritsch> cox377: log out, switch to a text console, login with your user
[06:06] <fritsch> cox377: rm -r  ~/.kde
[06:06] <parkerw207> thanks stdin
[06:06] <fritsch> cox377: but, be warned: I say this again
[06:06] <stdin> parkerw207: no problem :)
[06:06] <cox377> fritsch: be warned?
[06:06] <fritsch> cox377: this deletes every custom setting you have done with your "personal" kde settings
[06:06] <cox377> :(
[06:06] <cox377> i think thats quite a lot actually
[06:07] <stdin> fritsch: you know the Kde devs hate it when we tell people to do that :P
[06:07] <fritsch> stdin: yes, i know
[06:07] <cox377> i suppose on and off been tweeking and making it the way i like it for like 6 months
[06:07] <fritsch> stdin: but ... you know alle config files, where the icon sizes and so on are?
[06:07] <fritsch> stdin: and he aksed for a reset
[06:07] <fritsch> stdin: i told him the "asyncrhonious" one ;-)
[06:07] <cox377> fritsch: i just need to reset these icons
[06:07] <fritsch> stdin: but, if you know how to reset theses settings in another way, please help him
[06:08] <fritsch> cox377: try: Systemsettings -> Appearance -> Icons
[06:08] <cox377> fritsch: i go there and its all gone screwy
[06:08] <stdin> fritsch: I don't
[06:08] <fritsch> cox377: Advanced
[06:08] <fritsch> cox377: and try to reset there
[06:08] <cox377> fritsch: the icons of system settings dont even appear
[06:08] <fritsch> cox377: mmmh
[06:09] <draik> Where is a good place to shop for shuttle desktops?
[06:09] <vk6five> !knotify
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knotify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <fritsch> stdin: sorry, don`t know any clean way ...
[06:09] <rojanu> Hi I am going to install kubuntu on 5 computers what is the best of installation
[06:09] <fritsch> cox377: for you: do not know any clean way, then
[06:09] <cox377> fritsch: nothing under advanced
[06:09] <wizz33> how do i get the SYSFS{idProduct} from an usb scanner?
[06:09] <draik> rojanu: explain
[06:09] <geniusvicks> stdin, thanks. Its working fine now. I can impress my windoze friends who go "wow" about the MS Vista grafix
[06:09] <fritsch> cox377: the at the bottom is: "reset to default"?
[06:10] <cox377> i've restarted, it just wont allow me to change anything, also the icons in the task bar have disappeared
[06:10] <stdin> geniusvicks: yeah :)
[06:10] <fritsch> cox377: sorry, me only know the hardway
[06:10] <stdin> geniusvicks: you want a tip tho, to help performance ?
[06:10] <stdin> guess not
[06:10] <cox377> fritsch: you can reset your setting u have made before clicking apply but not after
[06:10] <fritsch> cox377: bad
[06:11] <rojanu> i need to install 5 machines & configure
[06:11] <fritsch> cox377: sorry
[06:11] <fritsch> rojanu: same config, same machines?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> stdin, it's odd , i fixed the FF full page prob by choosing maximize in the tiitlebar , but it was already checked ...strange behaviour
[06:11] <rojanu> yes
[06:11] <fritsch> rojanu: just install one
[06:11] <fritsch> rojanu: use partimage und copy over the partition images ...
[06:11] <rojanu> ok
[06:12] <fritsch> rojanu: so every computer "is the" same, only change ip addresses on each afterwards ...
[06:12] <stdin> BluesKaj: hmm, strange indeed
[06:13] <Lynoure> fritsch: makes sense to change the hostnames as well
[06:13] <fritsch> Lynoure: yes of course ;-)
[06:13] <fritsch> Lynoure: thx
[06:14] <rojanu> thanks fritsch
[06:15] <fritsch> rojanu: could be a bit hard to "play" the backup onto the oterh computers
[06:15] <fritsch> rojanu: or even making the partimage file
[06:16] <fritsch> rojanu: would suggest you: after having installed the first computer: bootup a livecd (knoppix, or some other)
[06:16] <fritsch> rojanu: plug in an USB 2.0 external drive, and partimage the files on this drive
[06:16] <cox377> appears to have fixed itself
[06:16] <cox377> lol
[06:16] <fritsch> rojanu: after this boot up the knoppix on the other machines and "restore" the file
[06:17] <fritsch> rojanu: partimage is a really cool tool, i use it to "jump between evil and more evil" ;-)
[06:17] <Agent_bob> date +'%s' will give you a different tem digit number every second...
[06:17] <fritsch> rojanu: M$ Vista and M$ XP
[06:18] <fritsch> Agent-bob: seconds since ... should be okay?
[06:19] <rojanu> actually machines currently have XP but I have convinced the community centre to install kubuntu
[06:20] <fritsch> rojanu: have much fun
[06:20] <fritsch> rojanu: just perfectly configure the first one ... installing the others does not cost anything
[06:20] <rojanu> Thank you, bet I will have so much fun
[06:20] <mato_> do anybody know how to install GTK?
[06:21] <stdin> mato_: just install any GTK app and all the libs will be installed
[06:21] <khaije1> hi, how do i revert my default shell to bash instead of dash?
[06:21] <mato_> I have already GIMP installed...Is it GTK?
[06:22] <stdin> mato_: yeah
[06:22] <hatta> GTK is the gimp tool kit, so yeah
[06:22] <mato_> but this is not a general problem
[06:23] <stdin> khaije1: just change /bin/sh to point to bash
[06:24] <Agent_bob> khaije1 groups & users  advanced  shell
[06:24] <vk6five> am i right in assuming beryl is anothe DE?
[06:25] <khaije1> stdin: no kidding eh? i set it this way through some sort of dpkg dialoge, is it okay to just change it in another way?
[06:25] <stdin> vk6five: no, it's just a WM
[06:25] <jhutchins> vk6five: Yeah, supposed to go up against vista's new stuff.
[06:25] <vk6five> ah k
[06:25] <Agent_bob> !beryl
[06:25] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:25] <stdin> khaije1: you can just change the symlink
[06:26] <khaije1> okeedoke, thanks folk :-)
[06:26] <Agent_bob> khaije1 you can edit /etc/passwd and change it there dirrectly.
[06:26] <vk6five> isn't it in the etc/user.profile or something
[06:26] <soulrider> hello, whats the default CD burner in ubuntu ?
[06:27] <stdin> khaije1: the "dpkg" way is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash", but it just changes the link anyway
[06:27] <mato_> I was compilling NMAP and when I typed a command "make", this error shows me
[06:27] <mato_> www.palenka.wz.cz/problem
[06:27] <Agent_bob> stdin you do know that bash when called as /bin/sh does not function like bash when called as /bin/bash  don't you ?
[06:27] <stdin> soulrider: k3b
[06:27] <khaije1> Agent_bob: oh i need to change it for /bin/sh, not the login shell
[06:27] <vk6five> ah BOB's got it... I'm less help than a bad case of the flu ;)
[06:27] <Jucato> !dash
[06:27] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[06:27] <soulrider> stdin: ubuntu not kubuntu
[06:27] <Jucato> soulrider: Gnomebaker, afaik
[06:27] <hatta> khaije1: use chsh to change your sehll
[06:27] <stdin> soulrider: ahh, it's gnome baker or something i think
[06:27] <Jucato> soulrider: nautilus too
[06:28] <Agent_bob> khaije1 why for /bin/sh ?
[06:28] <grothesk> Hi there!
[06:28] <soulrider> because k3b locks my computer when i tyr to burn a disc
[06:28] <grothesk> Did ubuntu release a kernel update today?
[06:28] <stdin> Agent_bob: you do know that /bin/sh isn't /bin/bash in edgy, it's /bin/dash   don't you ?
[06:28] <stdin> grothesk: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[06:29] <khaije1> Agent_bob: it's the shell that alot of scripts link to, it can cause problems as described in !dash, but it's included b/c it's supposedly faster
[06:29] <grothesk> stdin: Thx!
[06:29] <stdin> :)
[06:29] <khaije1> i'm having problems, it's just something to check
[06:29] <Agent_bob> stdin yes i do.
[06:29] <mato_> DO anyone know what to do with this? www.palenka.wz.cz/problem
[06:29] <stdin> Agent_bob: then your question makes no sense
[06:31] <Agent_bob> khaije1 yes some people still write bash scripts and call them as #!/bin/sh   that's where the error is.  not that dash is linked to /bin/sh  dash is fully posix compliant.
[06:31] <stdin> mato_: maybe you need the -dev files, like libgtk1.2-dev
[06:31] <Agent_bob> stdin and your answer makes more ?
[06:32] <mato_> stdin:thnx, trying, installing
[06:32] <jhutchins> mato_: "Your system does not appear to have GTK (www.gtk.org) installed." That seems pretty clear to me.
[06:32] <mato_> but I am sure I have GTK
[06:32] <stdin> Agent_bob: yeah :)
[06:32] <khaije1> Agent_bob: ya i'm getting the same error as before so i guess it's not related to dash, anyone seen this error before?
[06:32] <khaije1> n1x0r@ganymede:~/downloads/firefox32/install_flash_player_9_linux$ firefox32
[06:32] <khaije1> bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[06:32] <jhutchins> mato_: like stdin said, you need the dev package.  That has the headers from the original build.
[06:33] <Agent_bob> khaije1 but a work around for the bad code is to change the symlink     that does not change your shell to bash   it changes you sh shell to bashes sh function
[06:34] <Agent_bob> rather than dashes sh function
[06:34] <khaije1> Agent_bob: ya, i understand, turns out it wasn't the cause anyway since i tried it either way, it's just that was the most recent change i remember making... now i'm not sure what to do
[06:34] <Agent_bob> khaije1 what error exactly ?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> and note that i'm lagging almost too much to help here.
[06:35] <khaije1> bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied <---- i'm getting this w/ every script i try to run
[06:36] <Agent_bob> less /usr/local/bin/firefox32  is that a script ?
[06:36] <mato_> I installed it with no effect...
[06:37] <Agent_bob> khaije1 ls -l /bin/sh
[06:38] <khaije1> !paste
[06:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:39] <khaije1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4888/
[06:40] <jhutchins> khaije1: Try this:
[06:40] <jhutchins> sudo rm /bin/sh
[06:40] <khaije1> jhutchins: you serious?
[06:40] <jhutchins> sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[06:40] <jhutchins> khaije1: Yup.
[06:41] <jhutchins> khaije1: You won't hurt anything.
[06:41] <khaije1> jhutchins: oh i just tried that, its the same result, i don't mind doing it again to show you though
[06:41] <jhutchins> You can always link it back to dash.
[06:41] <jhutchins> khaije1: ls -l /bin/sh to be sure it's updtaed.
[06:41] <surgy> hello
[06:42] <surgy> im guessing the update bug has not been fixed?
[06:42] <khaije1> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-02-09 12:31 /bin/sh -> bash
[06:42] <khaije1> n1x0r@ganymede:~/downloads/firefox32/install_flash_player_9_linux$ firefox32
[06:42] <khaije1> bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[06:42] <lunchbox> after taking out my linux hd with grub my windoze wont boot, how do I fix that?
[06:42] <lunchbox> I know I shouldnt
[06:42] <khaije1> did you catch that jhutchins? ^^^
[06:43] <lunchbox> separate drives by the way
[06:43] <mato_> ouuuuu meeeeeen
[06:43] <jhutchins> khaije1: Paste me the first few lines of the flash installer...
[06:43] <surgy> lunchbox: gho into your automated system recovery in winows and type chkdsk /p  and then fixmbr
[06:44] <mato_> it works, thanks a lot, but I had to type command "./configure" once again
[06:44] <lunchbox> tnks surgy
[06:44] <jhutchins> "taking out my linux hd with grub"?
[06:44] <khaije1> jhutchins: i just did tar -zxf && mv flash.so /usr/local/firefox32/plugins
[06:45] <lunchbox> yea that too
[06:45] <lunchbox> lol
[06:45] <surgy> lunchbox: np
[06:45] <lunchbox> I just wanted to clarify that grub was on it
[06:46] <lunchbox> not lilo
[06:46] <willy_> bonjour a tous
[06:46] <willy_> ya til du monde pour aid un debutant...?
[06:48] <Eruantalon> !fr
[06:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:50] <andry> hi all!
[06:50] <mato_> thanks
[06:51] <andry> just started adept and have linux-image-generic in upgradable status. but it doesn't go throuh
[06:52] <ant1matter> fritsch: thanks a ton for the help it worked great!
[06:52] <ant1matter> fritsch: (installing kde with the metapackage )
[06:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: :-)
[06:54] <intelikey> i made it back.
[06:55] <magnus_> Hi
[06:55] <intelikey> now how far did we get on the bad inturpriter issue ?
[06:55] <magnus_> First time for me to use irc
[06:56] <intelikey> i still want to know if that  /usr/local/bin/firefox?? was a script or not ?
[06:56] <jhutchins> andry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[06:57] <jhutchins> andry: Sorry, bad shot with the mouse. :https://launchpad.net/bugs/83976
[06:57] <magnus_> Any dreambox users here?
[06:57] <intelikey> stdin did y'all get that fixed  ?
[06:57] <jhutchins> intelikey: I believe he moved the file manually.
[06:58] <intelikey> jhutchins ok.  anything that works.
[06:58] <sabayonuser> hello
[06:58] <vk6five> re: linux-image-386 ---- 2.6.15-25 installed version 2.6.15-26 candidate version; required 2.6.15-28 --> keh?
[06:58] <intelikey> i hated that i couldn't answer in a timely fashion
[06:58] <sabayonuser> does anyone here know how to use sabayon?
[06:58] <jhutchins> Yeah, it'll bite him again if he doesn't fix it though.
[06:58] <intelikey> vk6five /topic
[06:58] <magnus_> Hi sabayonuser
[06:59] <jhutchins> vk6five: https://launchpad.net/bugs/83976
[06:59] <sabayonuser> like, how to move around the windows and stuff
[06:59] <sabayonuser> the title bars dont move the windows
[06:59] <khaije1> intelikey, jhutchins: i'm still having difficulty with the shell, but i'm not sure what to try next
[06:59] <jhutchins> khaije1: Try running the shell: bash or sh
[06:59] <intelikey> khaije1 ok what error ?   is it still with that one script ?
[07:00] <jhutchins> khaije1: Were you running that script as root?
[07:00] <khaije1> no, but there are errors even then
[07:00] <khaije1> intelikey: it's with all scripts actually
[07:01] <khaije1> i'll show you what i mean...
[07:01] <intelikey> khaije1 ok.
[07:01] <jhutchins> khaije1: Is it consistently a permissions error?
[07:01] <khaije1> bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[07:01] <khaije1> it says this with any script i try to run
[07:01] <intelikey> yes that is still trying to run /usr/local/bin/firefox32
[07:02] <jhutchins> khaije1: Can you run sh directly?
[07:02] <intelikey> ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox32
[07:02] <khaije1> intelikey: oh what a good idea!
[07:03] <intelikey> type /usr/local/bin/firefox32
[07:03] <intelikey> and if it's a script edit and change the first line from  #!/bin/sh    to  #!/bin/bash
[07:03] <khaije1> intelikey: same thing ---> sh: ./nwn: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[07:04] <intelikey> and what is this ./nwn file   is that a script ?
[07:04] <khaije1> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 191 2007-02-09 12:05 /usr/local/bin/firefox32
[07:04] <intelikey> see you don't execute binarry files with  sh blah
[07:04] <khaije1> intelikey: ya, it's the neverwinter nights launch script
[07:05] <ubuntu_> w
[07:05] <intelikey> khaije1 ok sudo nano /usr/local/bin/firefox32
[07:05] <lunchbox> whats the minimum amountof RAM needed for Kubuntu
[07:05] <lunchbox> or preferable..
[07:05] <AxlRose> lunchbox: I'd say 512 preferable
[07:05] <lunchbox> ty
[07:06] <AxlRose> lunchbox: but I've run it on much less
[07:06] <khaije1> intelikey: it links to /bin/sh
[07:06] <intelikey> lunchbox 192 to install from the live   128 to install from the alternate with having to tweek things.
[07:06] <lunchbox> maybe 256
[07:06] <intelikey> khaije1 change #!/bin/sh    to  #!/bin/bash
[07:06] <intelikey> save and test it
[07:07] <lunchbox> ty
[07:07] <khaije1> n1x0r@ganymede:~/bin/nwn$ firefox32
[07:07] <khaije1> bash: /usr/local/bin/firefox32: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[07:07] <intelikey> s/with/without/ lunchbox
[07:07] <khaije1> same thing intelikey, it's strange
[07:07] <intelikey> lunchbox as far as running kubuntu  it will run in 64m
[07:07] <intelikey> khaije1 now show me the error
[07:08] <lunchbox> damn
[07:08] <khaije1> intelikey: i posted it above, are you looking for something else?
[07:08] <lunchbox> without a gui? hehe
[07:08] <sabayonuser> Im premier here by the way, but Im using the sabayon liveCD, and all the windows refuse to move
[07:08] <intelikey> without xorg ubuntu linux will run in 16m
[07:09] <sabayonuser> the title bars dont do anything, theres no way to maximize
[07:09] <lunchbox> im impressed
[07:09] <intelikey> khaije1 no.    hmmm     ls -l /bin/bash
[07:09] <AxlRose> lunchbox: ya if you are just doing command line you can run it on next to nothing
[07:09] <khaije1> intelikey: i tried changing the linking for sh from bash to dash and back and it didn't help
[07:09] <AxlRose> lunchbox: but then there really is no reason to use Kubuntu
[07:10] <intelikey> the only other time i've seen that behaviour it was a script named /bin/bash
[07:10] <khaije1> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 777584 2006-09-19 17:59 /bin/bash
[07:10] <lunchbox> yea
[07:10] <lunchbox> just checking...moving a hard drive
[07:11] <intelikey> khaije1 type /bin/bash
[07:12] <khaije1> intelikey: just another shell
[07:12] <intelikey> no the command     "type /bin/bash"
[07:12] <khaije1> intelikey: oh! haha
[07:13] <intelikey> khaije1 also are you doing this in a 32bit chrooted env ?
[07:13] <intelikey> !chroot
[07:13] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:13] <khaije1> intelikey: this is what it says --> /bin/bash is /bin/bash
[07:13] <intelikey> ok.
[07:14] <khaije1> intelikey: i'm using ia32 libs from this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:15] <intelikey> ok i think that the problem exists in the 64bit/32bit translation.    as for a fix.   check  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot   and you just got out of my relmn when you went 64bit.
[07:16] <mzanfardino> ok, some how I've managed to make one of the icons in my main menu much larger than the rest.  How do I make them all uniform (or, simply set the oversized icon to regular size)?
[07:16] <khaije1> intelikey: i don't think this is an amd64 issue though... :-(
[07:17] <jhutchins> mzanfardino: How did you end up there in the first place?
[07:17] <intelikey> khaije1 it may not be.    what do you think it is ?
[07:17] <mzanfardino> how did I end up where?  I have no idea.  I opened my menu and now my System icon is twice the size of the rest.  I'm not sure what I did, as I'm new to KDE and was hoping someone might know...
[07:18] <intelikey> you have proved that /bin/bash is usable from the cli but not from a script.
[07:19] <khaije1> intelikey: well some of the scripts that worked before aren't working now, i seem to have disrupted something while trying to fix another problem
[07:19] <intelikey> khaije1 test...   cd ;echo -e '#!/bin/bash \n\n echo "testing" ' > testfile.sh ;sh testfile.sh
[07:19] <khaije1> intelikey: not today, sometime in the past few weeks... actually i'm sort of at a loss
[07:20] <intelikey> khaije1 lets see what that does ^
[07:21] <khaije1> intelikey: it echo'd testing... should i run the script it generated?
[07:22] <intelikey> you did.   but yes
[07:22] <intelikey> so bash and sh are working correctly.   it must be ia64
[07:23] <intelikey> you can change the perms on testfile.sh to executable and test it by executing it.
[07:24] <khaije1> intelikey: ya, that seems likely, i'll uninstall all the ia32 libs and reinstall only the ones i need
[07:24] <intelikey> you did run it.   that's the last step of the command ;sh testfile.sh
[07:24] <khaije1> intelikey: o i c
[07:25] <intelikey> khaije1 ok i'm gone for a while but i'll be back later if you haven't gotten it yet, we'll test some more things.
[07:25] <khaije1> intelikey: cool, thx!
[07:25] <intelikey> luck with it.
[07:28] <ilker> hi
[07:31] <ilker> when  give "sudo apt-get install subversion autoconf automake1.9 libtool cvs linux-headers-ARCH"  take this message for linux-headers-ARCH E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-ARCH
[07:31] <ilker> is it important
[07:31] <vk6five> dq: does ne1 know of a lcars theme for kde?
[07:32] <Eruantalon> ARCH should be replaced with your architecture
[07:32] <vk6five> er i386
[07:32] <vk6five> er = eg
[07:33] <sorush20> is there anyway that I could findout the password for my wallet there seems to be something wrong and I keep getting error code 9 when the password is incorrect..
[07:34] <mambo> Interface vmnet1 is not marked "UP". This should be done at boot time;
[07:34] <mambo> what should i do?
[07:34] <mambo> Virtual device Ethernet0 will start disconnected.
[07:36] <vk6five> !subversion
[07:36] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[07:36] <larsivi> are there any info on how to handle two monitors/ desktops? They are in the same session, but with a kicker each and the other don't use the config for my user
[07:41] <vk6five> or would I be looking more for an lcars WM
[07:43] <vk6five> !lcars
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcars - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <andry> jhutchins: thanks a lot!
[07:47] <vk6five> Can konversation do multi servers in one client instance?
[07:47] <larsivi> vk6five: yes
[07:49] <vk6five> how2 join new server is not obvious --- /me is toooo used to mIRC
[07:51] <jhutchins> vk6five: Yes.  F2.
[07:52] <jhutchins> vk6five: I usually run a dozen tabs on three different networks.
[07:52] <khaije1> wahoo! i think i found the problem, i recently converted from physical to logical volumes but didn't add the exec option
[07:53] <eisma> can someone help me install my tar.gz themes onto the theme manager?
[07:53] <eisma> it keeps saying its an invalid format
[07:53] <khaije1> i'll test this and check back in a second :-) gotta watch though mount args !
[07:53] <jhutchins> eisma: Is that maybe because you got it from somewhere other than the package mirrors?
[07:54] <jhutchins> eisma: Is it possible that it's not a compatible package?
[07:55] <vk6five> argh, darnit... large irc network that was being serverly DOSed for months on end a year or two ago... what's it called. ---- mental blank // it'd be a senior moment .. if I was that old.
[07:58] <vk6five> us-based really big network ... equally big mental blank.
[07:58] <Gtwy> vk6five: DALnet?
[07:58] <Gtwy> vk6five: Efnet?
[07:59] <hnsn> ok
[07:59] <vk6five> danke that's the one :)
[07:59] <vk6five> DAL
[07:59] <Gtwy> vk6five: i stay away from that network
[08:01] <vk6five> reason?
[08:02] <vk6five> 2many noobs and dhea### !lang alert
[08:02] <vk6five> ??
[08:03] <eisma> how do i change the font color of the text in the menus?
[08:04] <vk6five> mmmm I've just realised that when I killed knotify I lost all open ff windows?
[08:05] <vk6five> and... the annoying mail pop3 password error keeps popping up every 4-5 minutes
[08:06] <jhutchins> vk6five: Tell kmail not to check that account every 4-5 minutes.
[08:07] <Gunirus> Hi
[08:07] <Gunirus> I've a problem with kdm
[08:08] <Gunirus> When i boot my system , iget a blank black screen with a blinking _
[08:08] <Gunirus> but not kdm
[08:08] <vk6five> that's just it... I have, but --- it's not kmail (or at least I don't think it is) a) it's not open, b) i've changed it, c) it is set up correctly and knows 1- the password and 2- knows the correct domain to check... this one is popping up asking for the pass to an account on another domain. -- go figure!
[08:09] <Gunirus> any ideas?
[08:09] <scoobi> hello
[08:09] <Gunirus> hi sc0tt
[08:09] <Gunirus> oops
[08:09] <Gunirus> scoobi:
[08:09] <scoobi> hey i need some help :S
[08:09] <Gunirus> with?
[08:09] <dhq> how do i disable video on my pc and enable it when i want it
[08:09] <vk6five> hola scoobs
[08:10] <dhq> how do i disable videos playback  on my pc and enable it when i want it
[08:10] <vk6five> dhq: just an idea... remove the wire from the back that leads to the screen and put it back when you want it.
[08:10] <Alllex> How can I open .rpm files?
[08:11] <scoobi> vk6five lol :D
[08:12] <vk6five> Alllex: sudo alien -k packagename.rpm
[08:12] <Alllex> Thanks
[08:12] <vk6five> converts the rpm to .deb
[08:13] <jhutchins> Is there an app that I can use to pop up a message window on an X session via ssh?
[08:13] <vk6five> if the package has scripts add --scripts after -k
[08:13] <Alllex> Do I replace the "alien" with anything?
[08:14] <vk6five> umm you might need to 'sudo apt-get install alien' first
[08:15] <vk6five> if you don't have alien on your box
[08:15] <Alllex> Ah thank
[08:15] <Alllex> s
[08:18] <cpk1> Alllex: what are you using an rpm of?
[08:18] <Alllex> A graphics card installer
[08:18] <Alllex> Driver Installer*
[08:19] <cpk1> Alllex: err why use an rpm for that?
[08:19] <Alllex> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-firegl.html
[08:20] <cpk1> Alllex: what kind of card you have?
[08:20] <Alllex> ATI Radeon Xpress 200 intergrated
[08:20] <cpk1> why not follow the ubuntu wiki?
[08:20] <Alllex> I've tried the driver designed for it
[08:21] <Alllex> Ah, well I managed to download it, and execute it. And set it up via Konsole- however on my start menu their is an "ATITechnology" icon. When I click on it nothing happens/.
[08:21] <esben> Hmmm.... if apt-get gives me a "Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages" line... what exactly is meant, and how do I get it ot work? :)
[08:23] <pestilence> when i plug in my external hard drive, it is automatically mounted.  however, it does not observe the contents of my /etc/fstab.  why is this?
[08:26] <jhutchins> pestilence: the udev stuff is generating it's own fstab entry.
[08:26] <vk6five> kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file /usr/share/applications/mb-applet-menu-launcher.desktop has Type=PanelApp instead of "Application" or "Service" -- I'm asuming i need to edit the filetype to application??
[08:26] <jhutchins> pestilence: The system's still a bit of a mess.
[08:27] <jhutchins> vk6five: No, but if you want to run it you should add it to the panel.
[08:28] <vk6five> that was the error message thrown up by kbuildsycoca
[08:29] <mena> hi
[08:29] <jhutchins> vk6five: Yes.
[08:30] <mena> jucato, are you here
[08:31] <vk6five> jhutchins: so?
[08:32] <jhutchins> I love this.  My system's using over 90% of the CPU, but it's still perfectly usable.  Applications are a little slow to load, but otherwise no problems with mail, web, irc, etc.
[08:32] <Mo-Z> anyone know of a good Howto for xgl on Kubuntu/Ati ?
[08:32] <jhutchins> linux rocks!
[08:33] <Mo-Z> !xgl
[08:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:33] <mena> i have a problem with the lanaguge in kubuntu or with xp ...the problem is when i make a folder on kubuntu  in diffrent languge but not english when i opened xp to see it its appear wrong not as the same i had make on kubuntu .........any idea
[08:34] <BluesKaj> hey gents, how do get rid of the annoying 'sounds' in kde , for instance when i close a tab in konversation ... I hated the sounds in windows and was able to turn them off . Where do i turn them off in KDE ?
[08:34] <jhutchins> mena: All I can give you is a hint: codepages
[08:34] <vk6five> load extra language support in xp??
[08:34] <Eruantalon> BluesKaj: In systemsettings
[08:35] <BluesKaj> where in sys/settings ?
[08:35] <Eruantalon> I am not sure what it is in english but announcements probably
[08:35] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: Sounds&Multimedia
[08:35] <vk6five> settings/configure notification
[08:36] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: and System notifications from there
[08:36] <Pensacola> I can't get into the gui with nvidia drivers after the kernel upgrade, how to fix this?
[08:36] <mena> jhutchins, mena
[08:37] <mena> mean *
[08:39] <underdog5004> Pensacola, it's a common issue right now. Sit tight while the repo guys add the necessary packages
[08:39] <Pensacola> ok thx
[08:42] <surgy> i seem to be having a probelm with efficientcy
[08:43] <surgy> all of my programs take like 30 seconds to load or more, it takes jedit at least 2 minutes to load, and konversation takes about 3 minutes, any tips?
[08:43] <vk6five> dq: does n-e-1 know of a lcars theme for kde? or would I be looking more for an lcars WM??
[08:43] <surgy> im running an amd64 +3200 with 512 mb ram and a geforce4 ti 4200 so these load times are a bit slow i whould think
[08:43] <vk6five> get more ram?? oops no we're not in #windoze
[08:44] <surgy> 512mb should be plenty, 512 is twice the minimum
[08:44] <vk6five> yeah, that was my point.
[08:45] <surgy> and if i load programs from terminal there load times are quite a bit shorter than if i run them from a link
[08:47] <surgy> is there a check disk utitlity that i can use to make sure my base filesystem is not damaged?
[08:47] <di3> surgy: i had the same issue then i tried ubuntu a year ago. i think your hard drive works slow under ubuntu
[08:48] <di3> try to run hdparm to find out what it's going on
[08:48] <surgy> di3: its a 7500 rpm western digital sata drive, it should not be slow
[08:48] <di3> it may use cpu for i/o not dma
[08:49] <surgy> oh
[08:49] <mena> stdin, i hade a problem with the languges on Xp and this happening when i make a folser on kubuntu with another languge diffrent form english
[08:49] <di3> try to run hdparm -i to find out which mode your hard dirve is using
[08:49] <surgy> hdparm has a bunch of "WARNING DANGEROUS" next to a bunch of the parameters
[08:50] <surgy> hdparm -i is not a valid parameter it outputs a list of parameters when i use that
[08:51] <di3> sorry, "sudo hdparm -I /dev/your_hard_drive"
[08:51] <surgy> i see
[08:51] <di3> it's not dangerous
[08:51] <surgy> /dev/sdb:
[08:51] <surgy>  HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:52] <surgy> /dev/sdb1:
[08:52] <surgy>  HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[08:53] <di3> are you sure sdb is your hard drive?
[08:53] <xenol> hi
[08:54] <surgy> di3: i only have two, sdb and sda
[08:54] <xenol> plz is it possibble to strech icons in KDE as in gnome?
[08:54] <surgy> di3: sdb is the one i chose for installation
[08:54] <surgy> xenol: open the icon graphic in kate and the resize it
[08:55] <xenol> plz is it possibble to strech icons in KDE as in gnom
[08:56] <di3> surgy, try to measure the speed of your disk, run "sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdb"
[08:58] <surgy> di3: Timing buffered disk reads:  142 MB in  3.02 seconds =  47.01 MB/sec
[08:58] <surgy> di3: thats not quite sata speeds.......
[08:58] <di3> why?
[08:58] <surgy> sata == 100mbps + right?
[08:59] <di3> i have a 5400 rpm fujitsu, it show 27,89 MB/sec
[08:59] <surgy> oh ok then im cool
[08:59] <shinigami> !modprobe
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <surgy> so it seams my hdd is up to speed, what are some other causes of this lag?
[08:59] <shinigami> hi, can anyone teach me how to modprobe my sound card ?
[09:00] <di3> no, 100mps is the theoretical interface speed
[09:00] <xenol> !gfxboot
[09:00] <ubotu> gfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[09:01] <di3> surgy, that's interesting, look into your log files, may be you will find the cause
[09:01] <surgy> di3: sorry i have never looked at my logs before (my linux career is only 1 month old :))
[09:02] <surgy> how do i do that?
[09:02] <shinigami> hi, why do i need to modprobe snd-seq everytime i log into my system?
[09:02] <di3> ok :) go to the console and run "cat /var/log/syslog"
[09:02] <shinigami> can i let it do it automatically?
[09:03] <di3> do you see any error messages or warnings?
[09:03] <nodesert> how can i set dchp configuration?
[09:04] <surgy> di3: a lot
[09:05] <surgy> di3: want me to pastebin it for you?
[09:05] <di3> surgy, ok, i will take a look
[09:06] <surgy> http://www.pastebin.ca/347915
[09:06] <angasule> when you execute a game and then it crashes and the screen resolution is wrong, how do you get it back to normal without restarting X?
[09:08] <tish> perdon la lista de canales despaoles?
[09:08] <angasule> !es
[09:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:08] <angasule> when you execute a game and it crashes and the screen resolution is wrong, how do you get it back to normal without restarting X? ctrl+alt++ doesn't do anything
[09:10] <AxlRose> angasule: you know I've been wondering the same thing
[09:10] <AxlRose> angasule: it really bugs me
[09:10] <pestilence> jhutchins: so if i wanted my drives to be mounted consistently in a certain place when i plug them in, how do i do that
[09:10] <pestilence> i tried putting UUID entries in /etc/fstab, but apparently it ignores that
[09:11] <di3> surgy, it looks like your computer is trying to obtain an ip address from dhcp server but the dhcp server doesn't respond. but i don't think that causes the problem
[09:11] <di3> so, run "top" in the console
[09:11] <surgy> di3: isnt that do to the update bug that we have been plagued with?
[09:12] <di3> it will show you cpu usage on your system
[09:12] <di3> which bug?
[09:13] <surgy> adept shows it needs updates all the time even if you update, acts like a succesfull update and then closes and wants the same updates again
[09:13] <surgy> and at the top most line of "top" im seeing a process popping and leaving switches from "xorg" to "kicker"
[09:15] <di3> does any process consume a lot of cpu time? when your system runs idle the total cpu usage shouldn't be more than 2-3%
[09:16] <FFK> hiho
[09:17] <surgy> actually konsole is eating the most right now at 3.2% and when i switch windows xorg takes 2%
[09:17] <surgy> looks normal to me
[09:17] <di3> yes it's ok
[09:17] <surgy> my total right now is like 5% but im running konversation
[09:18] <xenol> plz wat do i need to press to see running processes?
[09:18] <di3> which applications load slow? can you name one?
[09:18] <surgy> xenol: terminal >> "top"
[09:18] <jonathan__> what is the command to compile a kernel
[09:18] <surgy> firefox, jedit, konversation
[09:18] <surgy> to name a few
[09:19] <elcuco_> hi all,
[09:19] <xenol> surgy:  hmm and in x.org?
[09:19] <jonathan__> what command do i use to compile the kernel
[09:19] <surgy> xenol: what?
[09:20] <cuco> hi all
[09:20] <surgy> cuco: hiyas
[09:20] <xenol> surgy nvm where can i see the load of my ram? free in konsole?
[09:20] <cuco> i am getting new updates in adept: the linux-image* issue. is it safe to install now?
[09:20] <surgy> xenol: open konsole and type: top     it will tell you how much ram each process is takinh
[09:20] <crusty> hello everybody! there are any equivalent programs to windows move maker for kubuntu 6.10
[09:20] <di3> ok, then try to launch firefox from the command line and look at the error messages it produces
[09:22] <surgy> di3: i always get these errors: http://www.pastebin.ca/347935 and thats the only errors firefox gave
[09:23] <di3> surgy, ok, these errors are normal for ubuntu
[09:24] <surgy> di3: yeah i heard that before..... but i still dont like the idea for an error to be "normal"
[09:24] <di3> well, i am running out of ideas :(
[09:24] <surgy> di3: it kewl, dont sweat it
[09:24] <jhutchins> crusty: What steps do you need to do?
[09:25] <di3> surgy, you can get rid of these errors modifying x.org configuration file
[09:25] <crusty> well.........im starting from noting! all i got are mpg file from my digital camera end oudio files
[09:25] <surgy> di3: with just a text editor?
[09:25] <jhutchins> crusty: What do you want for output?
[09:26] <crusty> im looking for someting lik win move maker
[09:26] <jhutchins> crusty: I haven't run windows for four years or more.
[09:26] <coreymon77> hi guys
[09:26] <surgy> di3: and whats the defualt directory of x.org?
[09:26] <crusty> aniting that is a small...........i need to send it on internet to a friend
[09:26] <di3> yes, from konsole run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:26] <jhutchins> crusty: However, I'm in the midst of a big video project now, so I can probably help you if you tell me what you want to do.
[09:26] <surgy> di3: and what lines should i remove?
[09:26] <coreymon77> i suggest that you put the broken dependency thing at the front of the topic
[09:27] <crusty> ok
[09:27] <jhutchins> crusty: Do you want to compress it, edit it, transcode it?
[09:27] <weedar> Does there exist a program to encode videos to Divx (not xvid) for linux?
[09:27] <di3> the lines describing wacom input devices
[09:27] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Topic scrolls off on some clients.
[09:27] <coreymon77> i know
[09:27] <jhutchins> weedar: Yes.
[09:27] <coreymon77> but most people dont look at that
[09:27] <sabayonuser> does anyone here have experience installing beryl on kubuntu?  I want to know how risky that is
[09:28] <coreymon77> its a very important problem though
[09:28] <surgy> di3: i can just comment them out right?
[09:28] <coreymon77> so it should be at the front
[09:28] <di3> yes
[09:28] <weedar> jhutchins: next question is of course what this program is? :)
[09:28] <jhutchins> weedar: ffmpeg or mencoder (mplayer) should do it.
[09:28] <di3> not forget about Section "ServerLayout"
[09:29] <jhutchins> weedar: You may want a wrapper like tovid or a GUI like avidemux2.
[09:29] <weedar> jhutchins: I've tried, but can only seem to encode to xvid with ffmpeg, not sure about mencoder
[09:29] <crusty> i want to take small video clip from my digital camera and mix it with sound file.......in the vey i like it! i just want to edit my hown move.
[09:29] <jhutchins> weedar: I've found that if I use a wrapper like tovid, I can get the commands.
[09:29] <jhutchins> It took several days of experimenting to get what I want.
[09:29] <weedar> jhutchins: aha, I'll look into it!
[09:29] <jhutchins> crusty: Probably avidemux or cinellera.
[09:30] <jhutchins> crusty: You can do it from the command line.
[09:30] <crusty> ok ill try! thanks a lot
[09:30] <Falladir> my adept_manager claims that it can't update the kernel headers and kernel image without breaking dependencies
[09:30] <crusty> im not very good with it
[09:30] <Falladir> is this a bad thing?
[09:30] <jhutchins> crusty: weedar: A lot of movies are made with linux these days, so no excuse not to have a totally professional output.
[09:31] <xenol> where in kde can i turn off that annoying kwallet?
[09:31] <di3> surgy, if  you are not sure i can check your x.org conf, just pastebin it
[09:31] <jhutchins> Falladir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[09:31] <jhutchins> dang it!
[09:31] <surgy> di3: i commented all three of the wacom's out, and i still get the errors
[09:31] <jhutchins> Falladir: https://launchpad.net/bugs/83976
[09:31] <crusty> iv tryed some.........the main problem is in a vay or another i can do wat i need
[09:31] <jhutchins> surgy: Did you restart X?
[09:32] <di3> yes restart your X server
[09:32] <jhutchins> crusty: I'm currently using avidemux.
[09:32] <weedar> jhutchins: my problem is that my dvd-recorder is real picky and doesn't seem to support xvid
[09:32] <jhutchins> weedar: Your recorder or your player?
[09:32] <surgy> no do i need to restart x to reinitialize xorg.conf?
[09:32] <jhutchins> surgy: Yes.
[09:32] <surgy> di3: http://www.pastebin.ca/347946 thats my xorg
[09:32] <crusty> i have avidemux
[09:32] <jhutchins> surgy: ctrl-alt-backspace of you're in a hurry.
[09:33] <elyon225> Could someone recommend a good app to record my desktop to video?  I've tried istanbul, but it throws errors at me that I can't figure out.
[09:33] <surgy> jhutchins: i prefer a full restart :)
[09:33] <crusty> it does not let me open any oudio file
[09:33] <surgy> i will brb
[09:33] <di3> surgy, you forgot about section "ServerLayout"
[09:33] <jhutchins> crusty: what format are they again?
[09:33] <surgy> di3: what? you didnt say anything about server layout
[09:33] <di3> it still has InputDevice    "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
[09:33] <crusty> mp3 and wav
[09:33] <di3> i said, see above
[09:33] <weedar> jhutchins: dvd-recorder/player :)
[09:34] <weedar> the one connected to my tv
[09:34] <di3> and InputDevice    "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
[09:34] <di3> and InputDevice    "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
[09:34] <surgy> di3: so comment the entire server layout section? or just those lines?
[09:34] <jhutchins> weedar: You should look at tovid for mastering the output to DVD.
[09:34] <di3> just those three lines
[09:34] <jhutchins> crusty: You may be having codec issues, but avidemux should open those.
[09:35] <jhutchins> crusty: You can also try Cinelerra (checked the spelling).  It's very polished.
[09:35] <surgy> di3: and restart x?
[09:35] <crusty> it should! i know
[09:35] <jhutchins> crusty: Can you play the files?
[09:35] <crusty> ill try that
[09:35] <crusty> yes i can
[09:36] <jhutchins> crusty: I recommend mplayer
[09:36] <di3> yes,
[09:36] <crusty> they are all right
[09:36] <jhutchins> crusty: What version of avidemux do you have?
[09:36] <Falladir> jhutchins: so (in very basic terms) the latest kernel upgrade broke ubuntu at some level, so we're waiting for a fix?
[09:36] <weedar> jhutchins: that will probably what I do if I can't encode to divx, but I see it as a waste when the video-clip is just about 30 minutes
[09:36] <crusty> avidemux 2.1.2
[09:37] <khaije1> jhutchins: hey i got it to work, turns out i had the mount options for the filesystem it was on set wrong :-/
[09:37] <jhutchins> weedar: Well, if your player is picky, mastering a proper DVD is a good way to go, and tovid is a great set of scripts for it.
[09:37] <crusty> o dont know....iv been editing foll dvd move in the past. and now i can make such silly thing
[09:37] <jhutchins> khaije1: Yeah, I saw that.
[09:38] <weedar> jhutchins: ok, thanks :)
[09:38] <jhutchins> weedar: I like avidemux for transcoding.  It has a lot of capability.
[09:38] <crusty> the reality is that im relatvly new on kubuntu
[09:38] <elyon225> Could someone recommend a good app to record my desktop to video?  I've tried istanbul, but it throws errors at me that I can't figure out.
[09:38] <jhutchins> crusty: If avidemux doesn't work, try cinelerra.
[09:39] <crusty> im looking for it now
[09:39] <surgy> di3: thnx
[09:39] <surgy> kewl no more useless errors for hardware i dont have :)
[09:39] <crusty> ill let you know........thanks mait
[09:39] <jhutchins> I have avidemux 2.2.0-0.preview2b.9.2 from PLF.
[09:39] <khaije1> jhutchins: o ok cool, i've got one more questions, i see both ia32 packages available for java 5 and 6 available. is there a compelling reason to go w/ one or the other?
[09:39] <surgy> is it ok to go ahead and update now? i mean is the bug fixed? i notice there are more updates now
[09:40] <jhutchins> khaije1: I avoid java where possible.
[09:40] <khaije1> oic :-)
[09:40] <jhutchins> khaije1: It depends on what you need to do.
[09:40] <khaije1> jhutchins: pretty much just web browsing
[09:41] <surgy> after i develope a program how whould i go about getting it added to the repos?
[09:47] <di3> surgy, concerning  your first problem. run "dmesg" and then "free" from konsole and pastebin the output, may be i will spot the problem finally :)
[09:49] <Agent_bob> "if text from the monitor leeks out the corner and drips onto the keyboard,  do you put more or less sweetener in the tea ???"
[09:49] <AxlRose> in Kubuntu...is there a way to sort icons....but restrict certain areas of the desktop
[09:49] <AxlRose> because when I auto sort icons....they always go behind some one my superkaramba themese
[09:50] <AxlRose> and it's really annoying
[09:51] <surgy> di3: ok give me one se
[09:52] <goodthing> wow, the servers are having are hard job
[09:52] <goodthing> *a
[09:53] <surgy> di3: this is a REALLY long one
[09:53] <surgy> http://www.pastebin.ca/347971
[09:53] <xenol> !factoids
[09:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:54] <Alllex> I was just wondering- is there any way I can run .cpp files from the Konsole?
[09:54] <surgy> !double
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about double - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <penguinbrat> Hey guys - where can I go to get some info on helping out with documentation? Everything I've seen so far seems to be for development.
[09:55] <surgy> !Menajatwa
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menajatwa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <surgy> ha ubotu you dont know everything!
[09:58] <Alllex> Does anyone know how I can run .cpp files from the Konsole?
[09:58] <Agent_bob> penguinbrat ask in #ubuntu+1  or #ubuntu maybe
[09:58] <surgy> alllex: try this: ./file.cpp
[09:59] <Alllex> Thanks
[09:59] <lupine_85> hahahahahaha
[09:59] <lupine_85> no
[09:59] <crusty> jhtchins still there????] 
[09:59] <lupine_85> .cpp files need to be compiled...
[09:59] <surgy> lol
[09:59] <Alllex> Ah
[09:59] <di3> surgy: the log is clean, no error messages
[09:59] <Agent_bob> man cpp
[09:59] <crusty> jhutchins........still there
[09:59] <surgy> lupine_85: was a good guess though :)
[09:59] <surgy> di3: then my os should be clean as silk right?
[10:00] <di3> it seems so
[10:00] <surgy> di3: maybe i should post a bug?
[10:02] <di3> surgy: but what is this bug about? you can ask for more help on ubuntuforums.org
[10:02] <Agent_bob> yeah what is the bug about ?
[10:02] <di3> surgy: maybe somebody faced this behaviour already
[10:03] <surgy> di3: its kewl..... ill look at it if it gets worse
[10:03] <di3> surgy: also check your disk for bad sectors
[10:04] <surgy> di3: right now i think im going to backup my entire disk ontu my backup disk and then encrypt it witha 150 digit pw and write the pw on my hdd with a marker :)
[10:04] <di3> surgy: and you can check the SMART status of the hard drive from ubuntu
[10:04] <Agent_bob> is it still the disapearing system files issue?   even with a new drive ?
[10:04] <di3> thats funny :)
[10:04] <surgy> di3: so that im sure to have a near flawless install when this one breaks
[10:05] <surgy> agent_bob: nah no disapearing files, just slow load times on almost all my apps
[10:06] <mena> !enconde
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enconde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <mena> !encode
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <mena> !encodic
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encodic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Agent_bob> !mp3
[10:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <mena> What is the problem which cuase the problme of lanaguge in Xp  while making a new folder or any file on kubuntu in another lanaguge difrrent form english
[10:07] <mena> any idea
[10:08] <jordo23> I have a logitech Mic and am looking to configure it for TeamSpeak.....how do I find out the directory path to the mic /dev/?
[10:08] <Agent_bob> only idea i have is, i have a hard time translating that...
[10:09] <mena> Agent_bob, are taling to me
[10:09] <Agent_bob> ah iso char encoding
[10:09] <Agent_bob> yes
[10:09] <mena> Agent_bob, okay
[10:09] <mena> Agent_bob, no th eproblem
[10:09] <Agent_bob> yes the iso charcitor encoding of the fs.
[10:10] <mena> Agent_bob, okay how to splve
[10:10] <mena> solve*
[10:10] <Baracuda> hey Guys a simple question here .. how do I monitor the HDD free space in kubuntu ?
[10:10] <Agent_bob> hmmm that i don't know.   not after the fs is alteady made....
[10:10] <Baracuda>  it's alright I'm still newbie and I know it's a silly question ;)
[10:10] <mena> Agent_bob, ok
[10:10] <Agent_bob> Baracuda df
[10:10] <di3> Baracuda: run "df -h" from konsole
[10:11] <tsdgeos> df -h
[10:11] <Agent_bob> Baracuda also ksysguard
[10:11] <Baracuda> thanks guys
[10:11] <Baracuda> Agent_Bob I'll try and see if I can install ksysguard
[10:11] <Agent_bob> mena maybe man mount could shed some light on that issue
[10:12] <Agent_bob> Baracuda it should be installed by default
[10:12] <mena> Agent_bob, okay i will see it
[10:12] <Agent_bob> in the menu kde system monitor
[10:13] <Baracuda>  Bad news :(  I used all the space available in the linux partition :(
[10:13] <Agent_bob> mena in man mount   search for  iocharset=value
[10:14] <Agent_bob> Baracuda empty your trash ?
[10:14] <mena> Agent_bob, ok
[10:14] <Baracuda> there is only 2 small files in the trash can ... no much help :(
[10:15] <Agent_bob> Baracuda is your home and the system root on the same partition ?
[10:15] <Baracuda>  Agent-bob  could I increase the partion in size ?
[10:16] <Agent_bob> yes that's what i was just working on.
[10:16] <Baracuda> that would be excellent
[10:16] <Agent_bob> is home a seperate partition ?
[10:16] <jordo23> Is there a way to take video of your desktop....like a screenshot but video?
[10:16] <Agent_bob> and how big is the root partition ?
[10:17] <Baracuda>  Agent I only have one partion for linux and a small swap partion of course
[10:17] <adaptr> it's humongous !
[10:17] <adaptr> jordo23: there is one in the repo, search for it - or perhaps somebdy will remember the name...
[10:17] <Baracuda> 5gb
[10:18] <adaptr> that's on the small side, wouldn't you say ?
[10:18] <Baracuda> I should have allowed more .. but didn't think i'd like Kubuntu this much :)
[10:18] <Agent_bob> Baracuda ok you can then make some empty unallocated space on the drive and make a home partition then you simply migrate all your home stuff to that new partition and remount it on /home.
[10:18] <Agent_bob> it's very simple and safe
[10:19] <Baracuda>  Agent what utility do I use to migrate to the new partion ?
[10:19] <Agent_bob> you first make it then i'll help you migrate
[10:20] <Baracuda> do I have to log out and use the kubuntu start up disk to make the new partion ?
[10:20] <Agent_bob> no just run gparted or qtparted
[10:20] <Baracuda>  ok
[10:20] <Baracuda> i'll try
[10:21] <vb> hello all,
[10:21] <Agent_bob> if not installed you can use the live cd    you may not be able to install anything while you are in a low disk space condition.
[10:21] <vb> i hv just created a hamachi vpn connection with my frnd using knoppix
[10:21] <vb> we r trying to hv a  remote desktop connection
[10:21] <vb> i can ping him successfully
[10:21] <adaptr> Agent_bob: moving his /home while he's using it can be tricky... and it'll take at least one potentially dangerous reboot
[10:22] <vb> how to go abt it ?
[10:22] <Agent_bob> adaptr wasn't going to move it per'se
[10:22] <adaptr> vb: t-r-y    t-o   u-s-e   a-l-l    t-h-e   l-e-t-t-e-r-s...
[10:23] <adaptr> vb: this is not a cellphone, and you're not metered by the character
[10:23] <vb> apology
[10:23] <adaptr> no need, that's good enough
[10:23] <adaptr> (a whole word)
[10:23] <hatta> people do irc from cellphones these days
[10:23] <adaptr> yes, they should be taken out and put to sleep
[10:23] <Agent_bob> copy it then logout drop to console rm the old remount the new and login...   adaptr  unless you know an easier/safer/faster way ?
[10:24] <adaptr> Agent_bob: an easier one, certainly
[10:24] <Agent_bob> then i'll watch.
[10:25] <adaptr> create /home partition, format it, mount it at /mnt/home (mkdir /mnt/home first), then drop out of X, as it locks files in /home, then cp -a /home /mnt/home
[10:26] <Agent_bob> that's what i said.....
[10:26] <adaptr> you may want to chmod 755 /mnt/home first, as *that does not happen by default*
[10:26] <adaptr> you'll end up with a root-owned /home that you cannot access
[10:26] <Agent_bob> yeah and last but not least own your home...
[10:26] <adaptr> then edit fstab to add the new partition, and reboot
[10:27] <adaptr> own your home ?
[10:27] <Agent_bob> at least we agree on how that all works :)
[10:27] <Agent_bob> yes    sudo chown `whoami` $HOME -R
[10:28] <Agent_bob> own your home ^  :)
[10:28] <adaptr> he should *not* chmod anything inside /home, just mkdir /mnt/home, mount it, then chmod 755 /mnt/home, then copy the old one over
[10:28] <surgy> owning your own home is a good start..... takes mortgages to get root though
[10:28] <adaptr> bad, bad idea - he *already* owns it
[10:28] <adaptr> cp -a copies all permissions
[10:28] <Agent_bob> never a bad idea to own your home...
[10:29] <adaptr> better make it as short and painless as possible
[10:29] <adaptr> so instead of copying over a /home that is by definition correct (he's using it now), you would introduce an action that may screw that up ?
[10:29] <Agent_bob> no i'm gona watch you.   you done violenteered
[10:30] <adaptr> I think he's fled...
[10:31] <Agent_bob> no he's just making a partition.
[10:31] <coreymon77> wait a sec
[10:31] <coreymon77> guys
[10:31] <coreymon77> was the kernel dependency p[roblem fixed?
[10:31] <Whopper> hm?
[10:32] <Baracuda> can someone tell  me if there is a partitioning application for kde ?
[10:32] <Baracuda>  I installed gparted but have no idea where to find it :)
[10:33] <Whopper> qtparted
[10:33] <Agent_bob> alt+f2 and type; kdesu gparted
[10:33] <hatta> `which gparted` at the console
[10:33] <Baracuda> qtparted will show up in kde right ?
[10:33] <Whopper> yes
[10:33] <Agent_bob> alt+f2 and type; kdesu gparted
[10:33] <Baracuda>  ok Agent thanks
[10:34] <Mena> Agent_bob. sorry i just swicthed form XP plz give the command again
[10:34] <Mena> from*
[10:34] <coreymon77> was the error fixed?
[10:34] <Agent_bob> man mount  ?
[10:34] <Whopper> http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/
[10:34] <Mena> yes after that one
[10:34] <Baracuda>  thanks whopper
[10:34] <Whopper> np
[10:34] <Agent_bob> coreymon77 i don't know.
[10:35] <Agent_bob> Mena i sujested you search for iocharset=  in the man page
[10:35] <Agent_bob> use / to search
[10:35] <Mena> ok
[10:35] <Agent_bob> or ? to search in reverse
[10:36] <Agent_bob> Mena i know that's not much help.   maybe someone else can give you a lot better answer
[10:36] <Mena> ok no prob
[10:38] <Baracuda> Right ..  I have a 16Gb ntfs partion I could use but i does contain data that I have to burn before deleting the ntfs partion and creating a linux ext3/.. partion
[10:38] <Baracuda> it
[10:38] <Agent_bob> ok.
[10:39] <Baracuda> Agent what reliable burning prog should I use ?
[10:39] <Baracuda>  it's just data I want to burn on dvd
[10:39] <Mena> !ipv6
[10:39] <lupine_85> k3b
[10:39] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:40] <Whopper> baracuda: k3b is a very good app
[10:40] <Agent_bob> well you may have trubble with any burner trying to make and iso file becaues of the full disk condition.  so what ever you use it will have to be 'on the fly'  so burn at a slower than max speed and disable the screen saver first.
[10:41] <Whopper> !k3b
[10:41] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[10:41] <Agent_bob> and be patient.    :)
[10:42] <Agent_bob> Baracuda and k3b is installed already ?
[10:42] <Baracuda> thanks Agent
[10:42] <Baracuda> let me check
[10:42] <acemo> where can i find the open source ati drivers?
[10:42] <Baracuda> yes I do have k3b
[10:43] <Baracuda> i'll use that then
[10:43] <Agent_bob> !ati | acemo
[10:43] <ubotu> acemo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:44] <Mena> What is the use of IPV6 ..any idea
[10:44] <acemo> thats the fglrx drivers..
[10:45] <Whopper> it is designed to replace ipv4
[10:45] <ScottK> Mena: Not much at the moment if you can get an IPv4 address, but give it a few years when the IPv4 address space runs out and it'll be different.
[10:46] <Mena> Scottk, okay
[10:47] <Agent_bob> let me see... how to find files you don't own....   hmmm; find ./ ! -uid $UID   #that should do it?
[10:48] <Alumin> Agent_bob: sounds reasonable
[10:48] <crom> evenin'
[10:48] <Alumin> I usually just do "." instead of "./" but it should work either way
[10:49] <Agent_bob> Alumin i have had find puke on me for not following with /  so it's habbit now.
[10:49] <Cuddles_in_KY> afternoon all. anyone good at setting up printers?
[10:49] <Alumin> interesting
[10:49] <Goliath23> Cuddles_in_KY: whats the problem, cuddles?
[10:49] <darkserver3> gente... hi...
[10:50] <darkserver3> I,m doing a lab
[10:50] <Cuddles_in_KY> i'm having some major trouble printing to a networked printer. the -one- windows machine prints to it fine, but none of my linux systems can.
[10:50] <adaptr> crystal meth, no doubt :)
[10:50] <Whopper> lol
[10:50] <Cuddles_in_KY> i try printing a test page, and it gets ''held'' as the status.
[10:50] <Agent_bob> Cuddles_in_KY no. but i found that if you install dapper and all the updates one of the updates breaks the foomatic database and you can't install any printer.  you have to setup the printer before you install the updates...
[10:50] <darkserver3> i need a script that can mount a desktop enviroment on a telnet
[10:50] <darkserver3> conection
[10:51] <Agent_bob> until they fix that...
[10:51] <adaptr> darkserver3: so write one, I presume that is teh homework ?
[10:51] <Cuddles_in_KY> agent_bob, it's set up, just won't print. and i'm on edgy.
[10:51] <crom> I'm having trouble emptying my 'trash'; actually the trash bin claims it's empty, but there is still 12+Gigs in ~/.local/share/Trash. Am I missing something obvious here?
[10:51] <darkserver3> nop
[10:51] <Agent_bob> and i hope they do...
[10:51] <adaptr> darkserver3: if that *is* homework, I would refuse - telnet is horribly insecure
[10:51] <Agent_bob> Cuddles_in_KY ok so ignore me.  i was just sayin'
[10:51] <adaptr> crom: so rm -f it
[10:51] <darkserver3> well... it's for or computer lab...
[10:52] <darkserver3> our computer lab...
[10:52] <Goliath23> Cuddles_in_KY: are you familiar with the command line?
[10:52] <crom> adaptr: oh yeah. I keep forgetting that one! (oops)
[10:52] <Cuddles_in_KY> goliath, marginally.
[10:52] <Goliath23> maybe you can find more information on what went wrong in the cups logs or so?
[10:52] <Goliath23> in /var/log/ i guess
[10:52] <adaptr> start by actually configuring cups...
[10:53] <darkserver3> you knoe...
[10:53] <Goliath23> I guess message beeing held can have a dozen causes
[10:53] <Cuddles_in_KY> goliath23, E [09/Feb/2007:16:51:53 -0500]  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[10:53] <Whopper> bbl
[10:53] <Agent_bob> but if you do that and then move things to the trash.  don't expect to get them back. they are gondi' man
[10:54] <nodesert> could  i set dchp configuration on knoppix or usingf console
[10:55] <Cuddles_in_KY> goliath23, also, 2 new lines. E [09/Feb/2007:16:54:20 -0500]  PID 18564 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/192.168.0.5) stopped with status 22! -and- E [09/Feb/2007:16:54:22 -0500]  PID 18563 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 9!
[10:55] <Agent_bob> nodesert why yes...
[10:55] <crom> salute, adaptr ! *tips hat*
[10:55] <darkserver3> ummm I gonna explain you...
[10:56] <Goliath23> Cuddles_in_KY: hm, maybe you retry to print the testpage to see what messages actually belong to the printout?
[10:56] <darkserver3> I need to show my server desktop on telnet
[10:56] <Agent_bob> please explain me...
[10:56] <adaptr> darkserver3: using aalib ?
[10:56] <darkserver3> aalib???
[10:56] <adaptr> !aalib
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aalib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <adaptr> he's getting dumber by the day...
[10:57] <ereminii> hi
[10:57] <Agent_bob> yah
[10:57] <adaptr> ho
[10:57] <ereminii> are any devs here, wanted to report a small  bug :)
[10:57] <Cuddles_in_KY> goliath23, those last 2 lines are what i get when i try printing a test page. status 22, and status 9.
[10:57] <Agent_bob> !bug | ereminii
[10:57] <ubotu> ereminii: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:57] <ereminii> well yeah :)
[10:57] <ereminii> thought it would be quicker this way i guess i'll do that
[11:00] <Goliath23> Cuddles_in_KY: in the kde printer setting, cann you select hplip as backend instead of cups? maybe that works better for that printer?
[11:01] <darkserver3> how can I take my server enviroment, and show then in s console???
[11:02] <Cuddles_in_KY> goliath23, just got it to accept the test page, but it's printing badly. 8 pages, first page has ''<</ManualFeed false>>setpagedevice'' at the top of it, whole pages 2 - 8 are blank.
[11:03] <Goliath23> hm, looks like the driver is not the correct one for your printer
[11:03] <Goliath23> what printer is it?
[11:04] <Cuddles_in_KY> hp laserjet 4 plus
[11:04] <Agent_bob> darkserver3 what are you wanting to see ?
[11:05] <Cuddles_in_KY> goliath23, nevermind. got it.
[11:05] <Cuddles_in_KY> foomatic+hpijs driver instead of cups driver
[11:06] <Goliath23> okay, cool
[11:06] <Cuddles_in_KY> goliath23, thanks for the nudge in the right direction.
[11:06] <Agent_bob> is  /etc/apt/secring.gpg  supposed to be empty ?
[11:09] <Mena> How to make programes with exe extention working good after installing wine
[11:09] <Mena> do i need any another plugin or something else
[11:12] <Agent_bob> heh is clamav known to be broke in dapper ?
[11:12] <Agent_bob> freshclam
[11:12] <Agent_bob> ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[11:12] <Agent_bob> !wine
[11:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:12] <Mena> ok
[11:14] <ritchiee> Hey guys, I recently upgraded from kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) to Edgy.  Basically changed /etc/apt/sources.list and ran apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade.  I then rebooted, and when it boots back up and gets to where the login manager is usually, its a blank black screen.  So I ctrl-alt-f1 out of that to a console and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, reconfigure it.  Run startx and it works fine, so I reboot again, and the same thing ha
[11:15] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  freshclam
[11:15] <intelikey> ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[11:16] <intelikey> i've chmoded it, i've rm'd it, touched it, fuesr -k 'd it....  it's not a perms issue.
[11:17] <ritchiee> paste the out put of stat /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log to a pastebin
[11:18] <intelikey> http://pastebin.ca/348088
[11:19] <ritchiee> intelikey, what user does freshclam run as?
[11:19] <intelikey> root
[11:20] <inteliwasp> i compiled a new program last night, but the exe is not in my path, how do i put a link in my kicker?
[11:20] <ritchiee> shouldn't freshclam run as its own non-priviliged users?
[11:20] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  freshclam
[11:20] <intelikey> ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[11:20] <intelikey> will that stop this error ?
[11:21] <ritchiee> possibly
[11:21] <ritchiee> im not sure
[11:21] <ritchiee> check google/freshclam docs
[11:25] <intelikey> looks like it installs with wrong permissions on /var/lib/clamav & /var/log/clamav
[11:25] <intelikey> that's pretty stuppid imo.  making an app that CAN'T run for root....
[11:25] <crazy_penguin> Good night!
[11:27] <inteliwasp> for some readon, xmms will not play anything anymore...
[11:28] <blue|palm> what is regarded as the best multimedia linux distro?
[11:29] <intelikey> -u USER, --user USER     Run  as  USER. By default (when started by root) freshclam drops privileges and works as the 'clamav' user.  <<< that explains it. you can't su unless you are root here.
[11:30] <intelikey> blue|palm in here it's kubuntu in #debian it's debian  in #gentoo it's gentoo in #fedora it's fedora .... get the idea..
[11:30] <blue|palm> lol
[11:30] <blue|palm> ok
[11:30] <blue|palm> so there is no 'general opinion'?
[11:30] <intelikey> bet ya my dogma can beet your dogma in a dogma fight...  :)
[11:31] <intelikey> no not really
[11:31] <blue|palm> oh
[11:31] <intelikey> and best is all based on openion
[11:31] <intelikey> and no two of them match exactly.
[11:31] <blue|palm> i would have thought somebody would have come up with a multimedia orientated linux by now
[11:31] <jott> it starts on how to define "multimedia" ;)
[11:32] <intelikey> it's like asking what's the best text editor
[11:32] <blue|palm> ok... define it as full movie playing support (better than the opensource apps on windows can provide), and of course games
[11:32] <blue|palm> we need a linux game-dev community :)
[11:32] <blue|palm> a proper one
[11:32] <intelikey> depends on what you intend to do with it and also on whom you ask.
[11:33] <intelikey> build it.
[11:33] <blue|palm> so what would you 2 reccomend?
[11:33] <intelikey> i'd recommend you get a dvd player and hook it to your telli
[11:33] <blue|palm> lol
[11:33] <blue|palm> I have one of those
[11:33] <intelikey> :)
[11:34] <Alumin> blue|palm: http://www.monolithmc.com/
[11:34] <intelikey> well there ya go then
[11:34] <Alumin> you want a serious Linux-based multimedia machine, that's what you want
[11:34] <Skrot-> MythTV is (imho) only good if you've got a tv-card though
[11:35] <Alumin> that or check out the Ardour project, get their kernel config file and use it to build a multimedia-centered low latency kernel
[11:35] <intelikey> until tomarrow and someone beets that with this....
[11:35] <jott> let's start a freevo vs. mythtv vs. vdr flamewar :p
[11:35] <blue|palm> first tell me what freevo is? like mythtv?
[11:35] <Skrot-> yes
[11:36] <Alumin> Skrot-: I think MythTV (and its competitors) definitely have a place as a set-top box, whether you have TV or not
[11:36] <Alumin> it's nice to be able to use your media collection without having to interact with a computer per se
[11:36] <Alumin> particularly when your house is being used as a social setting :P
[11:36] <Skrot-> They're both primarly DVR's (watching and recording TV) and HTPC's (watching and organizing backup movies, playing music, etc) secondly
[11:37] <Alumin> you can hand your drunk guests a remote and they can figure it out, I sure don't want to get those people to type an mplayer command line :P
[11:37] <blue|palm> I have one problem with multimedia on linux though... is it possible to get an equivalent to ffdshow (opensource hardware accellerated filters on windows) on linux (or something thats even better). Does it exist?
[11:38] <Skrot-> Alumin: That's true. But once you're used to the niceness of XBMC (no DVR what so ever) it doesn't look so good :p
[11:38] <Alumin> XBMC eh...haven't heard of that one
[11:38] <Skrot-> Xbox Media Center?
[11:38] <Skrot-> (not made by MS)
[11:38] <Skrot-> It's a homebrew software for the old xbox
[11:38] <Alumin> oh
[11:38] <blue|palm> ffdshow takes poor quality files and boosts their quality hugely, do we have an alternative on linux?
[11:39] <Alumin> well, if I ever poke myself in the eye and get an Xbox, I guess I'll check it out
[11:39] <jott> it's like playing james bond 007 on the xbox and get a media center for free :p
[11:39] <Skrot-> blue|palm: Not sure about the filters.. but ffdshow uses parts of libavcodec which ffmpeg/mplayer also uses
[11:39] <Skrot-> Alumin: It's the only reason to own a xbox :P
[11:39] <Alumin> heh
[11:39] <blue|palm> Skrot: yeah i know... ive been looking into it. But I cant find filters as good as ffdshow on linux :(
[11:40] <Skrot-> didn't know the filters where that good :)
[11:40] <blue|palm> Skrot: Neither did I till I got a monitor with a resolution of 1940x1220
[11:41] <Skrot-> But I've got windows running with ffdshow on a 77" inch 720p projector now.. maybe I'll check it out ;)
[11:41] <blue|palm> hehe
[11:41] <blue|palm> you have to fiddle a bit though
[11:41] <Skrot-> okay :)
[11:41] <Skrot-> How bad does the source have to be to get a noticable boost in quality?
[11:42] <blue|palm> once you have it right its awesome
[11:42] <blue|palm> Skrot: Do you watch anime by any chance? :) or series on your computer?
[11:43] <Skrot-> Let's take it at #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:43] <blue|palm> hehe
[11:43] <blue|palm> ok
[11:55] <pituka> hi, does anyone have a clue what to do when Amarok just wants to start as root??!
[11:57] <nagyv> you try to start it from the K-menu?
[11:57] <pituka> yes.
[11:57] <pituka> but also from console
[11:57] <nagyv> you mean, even if you just write amarok at the console, it asks for you root password?
[11:58] <darkserver3> sayonara, gente...!!!
[11:58] <darkserver3> oyasumi na sae!!!
[11:58] <nagyv> !jp
[11:58] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[11:58] <pituka> no, it writes a thousand lines of  messages and ends without a running application
[11:58] <nagyv> could you paste those messages at pastebin?
[11:59] <pituka> ok what pastebin do you prefer?
[11:59] <nagyv> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:00] <|Daisuke_Ido|> did you install amarok from the normal repository, or the 1.4.4 release repository, or did you roll your own?
[12:03] <pituka_> nagyv: sorry i was disconnected somehow
[12:03] <pituka_> did you get the url?
[12:04] <surgy> yes i did actually
[12:05] <pituka_> i have no idea why it somehow stops working
[12:06] <pituka_> i guess it has something to do with rights - because i can start amarok as root
[12:06] <nagyv> pituka_: no
[12:06] <pituka_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4952/
[12:08] <nagyv> pituka_: sorry, I won't be able to help you out, but I would try it at #kde too
[12:09] <pituka_> ok thank you very much for having the look
[12:10] <surgy> is there a gui version of top?
[12:11] <surgy> closest thing i see is ksysguard...... i guess im wanting to see percentages of my physicle memory used
[12:11] <goodthing> surgy: maybe you like atop better?
[12:12] <JohnFlux> surgy: ksysinfo
[12:13] <surgy> Command 'ksysinfo' not found.
[12:13] <animimotus> hello
[12:13] <JohnFlux> surgy: hmm yeah I've forgotten what it's called heh!
[12:13] <surgy> lol np
[12:14] <animimotus> someone can answers me why I have that :
[12:14] <animimotus> $ dnsdomainname
[12:14] <animimotus> 168.1.2
[12:14] <surgy> soo i forgot this is a no ell oh ell room :)
[12:14] <animimotus> this ip is not valide and not the same than: ifconfig eth1
[12:15] <specialbuddy> so are kde and gnome working on a windows manager together
[12:15] <JohnFlux> surgy: gnome system monitor has one :-)
[12:16] <JohnFlux> specialbuddy: no
[12:16] <JohnFlux> specialbuddy: there's no need to
[12:16] <JohnFlux> specialbuddy: you can use the gnome windows manager in kde
[12:16] <JohnFlux> or vice versa