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jribCatachan__: k, less traffic here04:01
Catachan__cool04:02
jribdoes bash still throw an error at this point?04:02
Catachan__yes, let me paste the current line that I changed it too04:02
Catachan__I changed it to this:04:03
Catachan__PATH=/usr/hla04:03
jribthat makes your PATH only /usr/hla04:04
Catachan__okay04:04
jribcomment that line04:04
jribtell me if bash still throws errors04:04
Catachan__lots of verbosenes also with out the line commented04:04
jribwhat kind of verbosenes?04:05
Catachan__shisen04:05
Catachan__lots of debug, I shall post an example04:05
Catachan__by the way, comments are "#" right?04:05
jribright04:05
Catachan__bash: [: =: unary operator expected04:06
Catachan__bash: [: =: unary operator expected04:06
Catachan__bash: [: =: unary operator expected04:06
Catachan__bash: [: too many arguments04:06
Catachan__bash: [: =: unary operator expected04:06
Catachan__bash: sed: command not found04:06
Catachan__just a short sampling from the end of the list04:06
jribhmm04:06
jribdid you edit any file other than .bashrc?04:06
Catachan__uhm04:06
Catachan__I don't think so04:06
jribmv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.backup04:07
Catachan__I can check the environment04:07
jribthen see if you still get an error04:07
Catachan__okay, right now, having entered the commands, I have gotten a "No file or Directory" error04:08
jribwhat commands?04:08
Catachan__ mv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.backup04:08
Catachan__followed by:04:08
Catachan__source ~/.bashrc04:09
jribclose your terminal and open a new one04:09
Catachan__I tried that just now, and redid the source comand04:09
Catachan__got the following error04:10
Catachan__bash: /home/catachan/.bashrc: No such file or directory04:10
jribthat's because we renamed .bashrc to .bashrc.backup04:10
jribit no longer exists04:10
Catachan__okay04:10
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Catachan__that would make sense04:10
jribok I just wanted to make sure taht is where the errors are.  Pastebin the entire file04:10
Catachan__oh! mv == move04:10
jribgo ahead and rename it back:  mv ~/.bashrc.backup ~/.bashrc04:11
jribright04:11
Catachan__oh, uhm, pastebin?04:11
jrib!pastebin04:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:11
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Catachan__any prefrence to the syntax?04:12
jribjust use text04:13
Catachan__by the way, in about ten minutes, I have to sign off for about five minutes, so I can change locations, I should be back quickly though04:13
Catachan__okay04:13
jribk04:13
Catachan__pasted!04:14
Catachan__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4812/04:14
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jribthat looks fine, what does "source ~/.bashrc" say now?04:15
Catachan__uhm one moment04:16
Catachan__okay, so I just tried to rename ~/.bashrc.backup and it said that it did not exist04:17
Catachan__one second04:17
Catachan__okay, got it04:18
jribCatachan__: ok, no errors?04:18
Catachan__no errors04:18
jribCatachan__: now change line 75 to:04:18
jribPATH="/usr/hla:${PATH}"04:18
Catachan__now source it?04:19
jribyep04:19
Catachan__I assume04:19
Catachan__kk04:19
Catachan__no errors04:20
jribthen:  echo $PATH     you should see hla in your path04:20
Catachan__yep, it seems to be the first one in the list04:20
jribk, do you need to do anything else?04:21
Catachan__I am begining to wonder if my download of the file also screwed up, actually04:21
Catachan__because it should give me a few lines of help related to the program when I type in hla -?04:22
Catachan__does command line unpackaging differ significantly from useing the GUI?04:22
jribhow did you unpack it?04:22
Catachan__I used the GUI extract in the Package manager04:23
Catachan__and extracted it to the usr directory04:23
jrib/usr?04:23
Catachan__right04:23
jribyou don't want to do that04:24
jribyou want to install custom stuff to /usr/local04:24
jribCatachan__: why are you installing HLA by the way?04:25
Catachan__okay04:25
Catachan__I am trying to learn Assembly with the insane intent to become fluent04:25
Catachan__in it04:25
jribthere should be some assemblers in the repositories04:26
Catachan__ubuntu repositories?04:26
Catachan__okay04:26
jribyeah04:26
Catachan__I must disconnect for a short period04:26
Catachan__thank you04:26
jribhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239904:26
jribnasm I've heard of before04:27
Catachan__as have I04:28
jribthat one is a lot easier to install:  sudo apt-get install nasm04:28
Catachan__the thing is that the best tutorial I have found is for HLA04:29
jriboh I see04:29
Catachan__but I shall look into nasm04:29
Catachan__thank you04:29
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Catachanjrib, still around?04:43
jribCatachan: yep04:43
Catachanwhen I extracted that file (hla) to the /usr/ folder, should I name it /.hla?04:44
Catachanperhaps?04:44
Catachanor does it matter when using the terminal to start a program?04:44
jribone sec, link me to this file please04:44
Catachanokay, which file exactly do you want?04:44
Catachana link to?04:45
jribthe one you are extracting04:45
Catachanthe download link?04:45
jribsure, or the page04:45
Catachanokay04:45
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Catachanhere is the page   http://webster.cs.ucr.edu/AsmTools/HLA/dnld.html04:46
Catachanthe actual link is near the bottom04:46
Catachanthe dl link:    http://webster.cs.ucr.edu/AsmTools/HLA/HLAv1.86/hla.tar.gz04:46
jribI would just drop this in /opt, it doesn't look like it's properly structured for /usr/local04:48
Catachanokay04:49
Catachanoh, jeeze04:50
CatachanI am a fool04:50
Catachan/usr/ is not the same as /catachan04:50
jribheh04:50
Catachanyou know I just realized that04:50
CatachanI feel dumb now04:50
Catachanlol04:51
jribwell you figured it out :)04:51
Catachanbut I had noticed it before, and just forgot it this time04:51
Catachanso I feel stupid04:51
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Catachanokay, so mv == move right? can I use it with a sudo and moving directories as well?04:52
jribyes04:53
Catachanokay04:54
Catachanwell, I got it moved04:56
jribCatachan: k where is it now?04:56
Catachanin /usr04:56
jribso /usr/hla/hla  should work04:56
jribas a command04:57
Catachanit recognizes it as a binary now04:57
Catachanbut it says that it cannot execute the file04:57
jrib/usr/hla/hla -?04:58
jribdoesn't work?04:58
CatachanI get this:     bash: /usr/hla/hla: cannot execute binary file04:59
jribme too05:00
Catachanhmm05:00
CatachanOkay, hmm05:01
CatachanI guess I should email the author05:01
Catachanof the program05:01
Catachanthank you very much05:03
Catachanby the way05:03
jribnp, gl05:04
Catachanthanks05:06
Catachanjrib, might it be worth it to compile it from the source?05:07
Catachanperhaps?05:07
jribCatachan: wouldn't hurt to try05:08
Catachanokay05:08
CatachanI will look into taht05:08
Catachan*that rather05:08
Catachanhmm05:12
jribCatachan: seems to work after compiling, or at least -? works05:14
Catachanreally? cool05:15
CatachanI am curently working on how to compile actually,05:15
Catachanis that just "makefile?05:15
jribmake -f makefile.linux05:15
Catachanokay05:16
Catachanout of curiosity, where did you place the extracted source?05:16
jribbut edit makefile.linux to suit your needs.  it currently copies to /usr/hla which will fail since your user doesn't have access.  That is ok, just copy afterwards yourself wherever you want05:16
jribCatachan: I left it where it compiled since I'm not interested in hla :)  But I would install this to /opt.  And then wehreever the docs said "/usr" I would just use "/opt"05:17
Catachanokay05:18
Catachancool05:18
Catachanthank you so very much05:18
jribCatachan: you probably need to install build-essential too05:19
Catachanbuild essential?05:19
jribit's a package that gives you a bunch of development stuff05:19
Catachanin order to be able to compile perhaps?05:19
jribright05:20
Catachanand without it, the command "make" does nothing?05:20
Catachanright?05:20
jribyou won't have a command "make"05:20
Catachanright05:20
Catachanokay05:20
Catachanso, sudo apt-get build-essential?05:21
jribsudo apt-get install build-essential05:21
Catachanright05:21
Catachanokay05:21
jrib!compiling | Catachan05:22
ubotuCatachan: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:22
Catachanoh! that is a neat feature of the bots!05:22
jribCatachan: that's a general guide but hla is a bit different.  If you really want to understand what is happening a good guide on makefile's would help best05:22
Catachanokay05:22
CatachanI will look them up05:22
Catachanthanks again05:22
Catachanlol05:22
jribCatachan: if you just open up makefile.linux in a text editor you can probably guess what is going on too05:23
Catachanyeah05:23
CatachanI looked it over05:23
Catachanit appears to be fairly simple, in that it just tells where to install and compile and the like05:23
Catachanthought that is surely a poor explanation05:24
Catachan=-)05:24
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Catachanokay, I am getting the error "No rule to make target"05:32
Catachanjrib?05:33
CatachanSorry to call you back, about this05:34
jribCatachan: what command are you using?05:34
Catachanmake -f makefile.linux05:35
jribCatachan: what is the result of: md5sum makefile.linux05:36
Catachanc20340067b767c18ca562a1ba595ef0f  /usr/hlasrc/makefile.linux05:37
jribheh ok so we have the same file05:37
CatachanI had to use the whole path name05:37
jribCatachan: cd /usr/hlasrc05:38
Catachanoh, right05:38
Catachanthat would work05:38
jribdoes make -f makefile.linux work now?05:38
Catachanuhm I get::   gcc -DLinux -c -O2 -o hlaparse.o hlaparse.c05:39
jribyeah, it's doing its thing05:39
Catachanbut it may be at work at the moment05:39
Catachanokay05:39
jribwait a few minutes05:39
Catachancool05:39
Catachansure thing05:39
jribjust to remind you, it's a bad habit to install things into /usr directly.  That's really for the package manager to work with.  When  you install custom stuff you should use /usr/local or /opt05:40
Catachanokay, I will try to remember that and keep it in mind05:40
Catachanhmm05:41
Catachanflex -8 -i hla.flx05:41
Catachanmake: flex: Command not found05:41
Catachanmake: *** [lex.yy2.o]  Error 12705:41
Catachanthis is not the best thing is it?05:41
Catachanonce you compiled it, where did you move it to?05:42
Catachanactually, that is a bad question,05:44
Catachanokay, so I moved it to usr/local/hla, and I changed the .bashrc accordingly, and ran the source ~/.bashrc05:49
Catachanwhen I run the command hla, or hla -? I get a cannot execute binary05:49
Catachanthank you for your help, I am about to loose the internet connection at about 12:58, so I will do some fiddling myself, then if I can't get it, finish in the morning.05:50
CatachanThank you so very much man05:50
Catachanjrib, by the way, did you bother to add the four lines mentioned in the install instructions for defining the variables and such?05:51
Catachannever mind, it doesn't help if I comment them out or not. Thank you very much!05:53
jribCatachan: install flex and recompile05:54
Catachanflex?05:54
Catachanapt get install flex?05:55
jrib23:41 <         Catachan > flex -8 -i hla.flx05:55
jrib23:41 <         Catachan > make: flex: Command not found05:55
jribyep05:55
Catachanokay05:55
jribif you wan to use /usr/local then put hla and hlaparse into /usr/local/bin  but you still need the hlalibs which aren't in here I think05:56
Catachanokay05:56
jribCatachan: you can probably just use the hlalib/ and include/ that you have from before (the failed binary installation)05:56
Catachanokay05:57
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jrib!mk05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
b0sanacjrib, i am here05:16
jribb0sanac: what is your native language?05:16
b0sanacMacedonian05:16
b0sanaci know macedonian serbian05:16
b0sanacand english a little05:16
b0sanac:)05:16
jribk, it's easier for me to explain how to do this using a text editor05:17
jribif you visit ubotu's page you can see the instructions for the gui05:17
jribb0sanac: enter this command:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:17
b0sanacjrib, but pls can you tell me what to write in terminal05:17
b0sanacok im in the list05:17
b0sanacand now ?05:17
b0sanacwhat to edit ?05:18
jribnow copy what you have there and paste it into the form at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Afterwards, submit it and give me the link to the result05:18
b0sanacbut05:18
b0sanacwhat to be the syntax ?05:18
b0sanaca05:18
jribI need to see what you have05:19
jribdo you understand?05:19
b0sanacPosted by b0sanac on February 9th 17:1905:19
b0sanacdone05:19
b0sanaci paste it05:19
b0sanacis new linux05:20
b0sanaci install it now05:20
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b0sanacjrib, are you here ?05:21
jribb0sanac: yes I need the URL05:21
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b0sanachttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4875/ ??05:22
b0sanacthat ?05:22
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b0sanacjrib, ??05:24
jribyes, thanks.  I need to read it, give me a second :)05:24
b0sanacok :)05:25
jribb0sanac: ok you see lines 16 and 17?05:25
jrib# deb http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe05:25
jrib# deb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe05:25
b0sanacyep05:25
b0sanacand ?05:25
jribremove the # in front05:25
jribok?05:26
b0sanacthats all ?05:26
jribno05:26
jribdo you want "multiverse" too?05:26
b0sanacok05:26
b0sanacjrib, i want all to listen play :)05:26
b0sanacmp3 mpeg thats all video05:26
b0sanacthats all05:26
b0sanac:D05:26
jribok add the word "multiverse" to the end of lines 16 and 1705:27
b0sanac deb http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe05:27
b0sanac deb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe05:27
b0sanacman yes05:27
b0sanacbut where to add it ?05:27
b0sanacdeb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multivers05:27
b0sanacthere :) ?05:28
b0sanacjrib, ??/05:28
jribb0sanac: yes, but you forgot the "e" at the end of "multiverse"05:28
b0sanac:)05:28
b0sanachehe i see05:28
b0sanacnow is  deb http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse05:29
b0sanac deb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse05:29
b0sanacits ok now ?05:29
b0sanaca05:29
jribdo the same for lines 31 and 32, remove teh # and add multiverse05:29
b0sanacok :)05:29
b0sanacdone05:30
b0sanacthats all ?05:30
jribnow save and close gedit05:30
b0sanacdone05:30
b0sanaci save and close05:30
b0sanacand what now ?05:30
jribnow run 'sudo apt-get update'05:30
b0sanacdone05:30
b0sanaci type it05:30
b0sanac:)05:30
b0sanacand i wait05:30
jribnow try to install what you were trying to install before05:30
b0sanacmp305:31
b0sanaci want to install05:31
b0sanacdone i install05:32
b0sanaci wait05:32
b0sanac:)05:32
b0sanacbut05:32
b0sanaci want to install mpeg too05:32
b0sanaccan you tell me how ?05:32
jribsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs05:32
b0sanacthat is for ?05:33
b0sanacmpeg or mp3 ?05:33
jribalmost everything05:33
b0sanac:)05:33
b0sanachehe05:33
b0sanacok05:33
b0sanacD:05:33
b0sanacwait05:33
b0sanacgxine is already the newest version.05:34
b0sanaclibxine-main1 is already the newest version.05:34
b0sanaclibxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.05:34
b0sanac0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 105 not upgraded.05:34
b0sanac??05:34
b0sanacwhat  is that ?05:34
jribit means you have all of those packages already05:34
b0sanacsoo05:35
b0sanaci can watch movie DVD i can listem mp3 mpeg that is it ?05:35
b0sanacWONDERFUL !05:35
jribyou can't watch dvd yet05:35
b0sanacohh05:35
jribwell not css protected dvd anyway05:35
b0sanacwhat i need to install to watch dvd a ?05:36
b0sanaccome on lets fix that too then05:37
b0sanac:)05:37
jribyou need libdvdcss205:37
jribhttp://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/extras/05:37
jribdownload the deb for libdvdcss2 and double click on it05:37
jribor add teh seveas repository if you want instead05:37
b0sanaclibdvdcss205:37
b0sanac    Description:Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries More...05:37
b0sanac    To allow applications to access some of the more advanced features05:37
b0sanac    of the DVD format.05:37
b0sanac    Package:libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb05:37
b0sanac    Package:libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_amd64.deb05:37
b0sanacwhat package ?05:37
b0sanac1 or two ?05:37
b0sanacjrib, ?05:39
jribdo you use i386 or amd64?05:39
b0sanaci dont know05:40
b0sanac-b0sanac- VERSION xchat 2.6.8 Linux 2.6.15-26-386 [i686/3.00GHz] 05:40
b0sanaci68605:40
b0sanac?05:40
b0sanac:)05:40
b0sanacthat is it or ?05:40
jribdo you use i386 or amd64?05:40
jribbah05:40
jribb0sanac: uname -a05:40
b0sanacLinux linux-security 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux05:41
jribok install i38605:41
b0sanacso what package is ?05:41
b0sanac:)05:41
jribthe one with i386 in the name :)05:41
b0sanacSimple foundation for reading DVDs - devel files05:42
b0sanacTo allow applications to access some of the more advanced features of the DVD format.05:42
jribnot the devel files05:42
b0sanacerror05:42
b0sanacwhat to download man :D05:42
b0sanactell me05:42
jribhttp://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb05:42
b0sanacdone05:43
b0sanacand where to extract ?05:43
jribI hope it works without any other deps...  just double click on it05:43
b0sanacok i type install05:43
jribit should open with gdebi05:43
b0sanacdone05:43
b0sanaci install it :)05:43
b0sanaci install all05:43
b0sanac:D05:43
b0sanacand now its all ok ?05:43
b0sanac:)05:43
jribok now you should be able to play dvd's protected by css too05:43
b0sanacjrib, you know05:43
b0sanacjrib, YOU ARE THE BEST MAN ON THIS SERVER !05:44
b0sanac:)05:44
b0sanacnobody tell me like you :)05:44
b0sanacsome ppl tell me website05:44
b0sanacand pm me05:44
b0sanac:)05:44
b0sanacbut yea05:44
b0sanacyou are the best :)05:44
jribthanks, have fun with ubuntu05:45
b0sanacthanks you too :) ! !!! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :************************* THANKS05:45
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b0sanacnick jrib !!!!!! IS THE BEST ON THIS SERVER ! WHO HELP PPL !05:46
jribb0sanac: k, take it easy :)05:46
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PriceChildlol jrib :)06:22
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Catachanjrib, thank you for the help last night, (as I was Catachan_) I managed to get the source of the program to compile alittle after midnight, so thankyou!06:44
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