[04:01] <jrib> Catachan__: k, less traffic here
[04:02] <Catachan__> cool
[04:02] <jrib> does bash still throw an error at this point?
[04:02] <Catachan__> yes, let me paste the current line that I changed it too
[04:03] <Catachan__> I changed it to this:
[04:03] <Catachan__> PATH=/usr/hla
[04:04] <jrib> that makes your PATH only /usr/hla
[04:04] <Catachan__> okay
[04:04] <jrib> comment that line
[04:04] <jrib> tell me if bash still throws errors
[04:04] <Catachan__> lots of verbosenes also with out the line commented
[04:05] <jrib> what kind of verbosenes?
[04:05] <Catachan__> shisen
[04:05] <Catachan__> lots of debug, I shall post an example
[04:05] <Catachan__> by the way, comments are "#" right?
[04:05] <jrib> right
[04:06] <Catachan__> bash: [: =: unary operator expected
[04:06] <Catachan__> bash: [: =: unary operator expected
[04:06] <Catachan__> bash: [: =: unary operator expected
[04:06] <Catachan__> bash: [: too many arguments
[04:06] <Catachan__> bash: [: =: unary operator expected
[04:06] <Catachan__> bash: sed: command not found
[04:06] <Catachan__> just a short sampling from the end of the list
[04:06] <jrib> hmm
[04:06] <jrib> did you edit any file other than .bashrc?
[04:06] <Catachan__> uhm
[04:06] <Catachan__> I don't think so
[04:07] <jrib> mv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.backup
[04:07] <Catachan__> I can check the environment
[04:07] <jrib> then see if you still get an error
[04:08] <Catachan__> okay, right now, having entered the commands, I have gotten a "No file or Directory" error
[04:08] <jrib> what commands?
[04:08] <Catachan__>  mv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.backup
[04:08] <Catachan__> followed by:
[04:09] <Catachan__> source ~/.bashrc
[04:09] <jrib> close your terminal and open a new one
[04:09] <Catachan__> I tried that just now, and redid the source comand
[04:10] <Catachan__> got the following error
[04:10] <Catachan__> bash: /home/catachan/.bashrc: No such file or directory
[04:10] <jrib> that's because we renamed .bashrc to .bashrc.backup
[04:10] <jrib> it no longer exists
[04:10] <Catachan__> okay
[04:10] <Catachan__> that would make sense
[04:10] <jrib> ok I just wanted to make sure taht is where the errors are.  Pastebin the entire file
[04:10] <Catachan__> oh! mv == move
[04:11] <jrib> go ahead and rename it back:  mv ~/.bashrc.backup ~/.bashrc
[04:11] <jrib> right
[04:11] <Catachan__> oh, uhm, pastebin?
[04:11] <jrib> !pastebin
[04:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:12] <Catachan__> any prefrence to the syntax?
[04:13] <jrib> just use text
[04:13] <Catachan__> by the way, in about ten minutes, I have to sign off for about five minutes, so I can change locations, I should be back quickly though
[04:13] <Catachan__> okay
[04:13] <jrib> k
[04:14] <Catachan__> pasted!
[04:14] <Catachan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4812/
[04:15] <jrib> that looks fine, what does "source ~/.bashrc" say now?
[04:16] <Catachan__> uhm one moment
[04:17] <Catachan__> okay, so I just tried to rename ~/.bashrc.backup and it said that it did not exist
[04:17] <Catachan__> one second
[04:18] <Catachan__> okay, got it
[04:18] <jrib> Catachan__: ok, no errors?
[04:18] <Catachan__> no errors
[04:18] <jrib> Catachan__: now change line 75 to:
[04:18] <jrib> PATH="/usr/hla:${PATH}"
[04:19] <Catachan__> now source it?
[04:19] <jrib> yep
[04:19] <Catachan__> I assume
[04:19] <Catachan__> kk
[04:20] <Catachan__> no errors
[04:20] <jrib> then:  echo $PATH     you should see hla in your path
[04:20] <Catachan__> yep, it seems to be the first one in the list
[04:21] <jrib> k, do you need to do anything else?
[04:21] <Catachan__> I am begining to wonder if my download of the file also screwed up, actually
[04:22] <Catachan__> because it should give me a few lines of help related to the program when I type in hla -?
[04:22] <Catachan__> does command line unpackaging differ significantly from useing the GUI?
[04:22] <jrib> how did you unpack it?
[04:23] <Catachan__> I used the GUI extract in the Package manager
[04:23] <Catachan__> and extracted it to the usr directory
[04:23] <jrib> /usr?
[04:23] <Catachan__> right
[04:24] <jrib> you don't want to do that
[04:24] <jrib> you want to install custom stuff to /usr/local
[04:25] <jrib> Catachan__: why are you installing HLA by the way?
[04:25] <Catachan__> okay
[04:25] <Catachan__> I am trying to learn Assembly with the insane intent to become fluent
[04:25] <Catachan__> in it
[04:26] <jrib> there should be some assemblers in the repositories
[04:26] <Catachan__> ubuntu repositories?
[04:26] <Catachan__> okay
[04:26] <jrib> yeah
[04:26] <Catachan__> I must disconnect for a short period
[04:26] <Catachan__> thank you
[04:26] <jrib> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342399
[04:27] <jrib> nasm I've heard of before
[04:28] <Catachan__> as have I
[04:28] <jrib> that one is a lot easier to install:  sudo apt-get install nasm
[04:29] <Catachan__> the thing is that the best tutorial I have found is for HLA
[04:29] <jrib> oh I see
[04:29] <Catachan__> but I shall look into nasm
[04:29] <Catachan__> thank you
[04:43] <Catachan> jrib, still around?
[04:43] <jrib> Catachan: yep
[04:44] <Catachan> when I extracted that file (hla) to the /usr/ folder, should I name it /.hla?
[04:44] <Catachan> perhaps?
[04:44] <Catachan> or does it matter when using the terminal to start a program?
[04:44] <jrib> one sec, link me to this file please
[04:44] <Catachan> okay, which file exactly do you want?
[04:45] <Catachan> a link to?
[04:45] <jrib> the one you are extracting
[04:45] <Catachan> the download link?
[04:45] <jrib> sure, or the page
[04:45] <Catachan> okay
[04:46] <Catachan> here is the page   http://webster.cs.ucr.edu/AsmTools/HLA/dnld.html
[04:46] <Catachan> the actual link is near the bottom
[04:46] <Catachan> the dl link:    http://webster.cs.ucr.edu/AsmTools/HLA/HLAv1.86/hla.tar.gz
[04:48] <jrib> I would just drop this in /opt, it doesn't look like it's properly structured for /usr/local
[04:49] <Catachan> okay
[04:50] <Catachan> oh, jeeze
[04:50] <Catachan> I am a fool
[04:50] <Catachan> /usr/ is not the same as /catachan
[04:50] <jrib> heh
[04:50] <Catachan> you know I just realized that
[04:50] <Catachan> I feel dumb now
[04:51] <Catachan> lol
[04:51] <jrib> well you figured it out :)
[04:51] <Catachan> but I had noticed it before, and just forgot it this time
[04:51] <Catachan> so I feel stupid
[04:52] <Catachan> okay, so mv == move right? can I use it with a sudo and moving directories as well?
[04:53] <jrib> yes
[04:54] <Catachan> okay
[04:56] <Catachan> well, I got it moved
[04:56] <jrib> Catachan: k where is it now?
[04:56] <Catachan> in /usr
[04:56] <jrib> so /usr/hla/hla  should work
[04:57] <jrib> as a command
[04:57] <Catachan> it recognizes it as a binary now
[04:57] <Catachan> but it says that it cannot execute the file
[04:58] <jrib> /usr/hla/hla -?
[04:58] <jrib> doesn't work?
[04:59] <Catachan> I get this:     bash: /usr/hla/hla: cannot execute binary file
[05:00] <jrib> me too
[05:00] <Catachan> hmm
[05:01] <Catachan> Okay, hmm
[05:01] <Catachan> I guess I should email the author
[05:01] <Catachan> of the program
[05:03] <Catachan> thank you very much
[05:03] <Catachan> by the way
[05:04] <jrib> np, gl
[05:06] <Catachan> thanks
[05:07] <Catachan> jrib, might it be worth it to compile it from the source?
[05:07] <Catachan> perhaps?
[05:08] <jrib> Catachan: wouldn't hurt to try
[05:08] <Catachan> okay
[05:08] <Catachan> I will look into taht
[05:08] <Catachan> *that rather
[05:12] <Catachan> hmm
[05:14] <jrib> Catachan: seems to work after compiling, or at least -? works
[05:15] <Catachan> really? cool
[05:15] <Catachan> I am curently working on how to compile actually,
[05:15] <Catachan> is that just "makefile?
[05:15] <jrib> make -f makefile.linux
[05:16] <Catachan> okay
[05:16] <Catachan> out of curiosity, where did you place the extracted source?
[05:16] <jrib> but edit makefile.linux to suit your needs.  it currently copies to /usr/hla which will fail since your user doesn't have access.  That is ok, just copy afterwards yourself wherever you want
[05:17] <jrib> Catachan: I left it where it compiled since I'm not interested in hla :)  But I would install this to /opt.  And then wehreever the docs said "/usr" I would just use "/opt"
[05:18] <Catachan> okay
[05:18] <Catachan> cool
[05:18] <Catachan> thank you so very much
[05:19] <jrib> Catachan: you probably need to install build-essential too
[05:19] <Catachan> build essential?
[05:19] <jrib> it's a package that gives you a bunch of development stuff
[05:19] <Catachan> in order to be able to compile perhaps?
[05:20] <jrib> right
[05:20] <Catachan> and without it, the command "make" does nothing?
[05:20] <Catachan> right?
[05:20] <jrib> you won't have a command "make"
[05:20] <Catachan> right
[05:20] <Catachan> okay
[05:21] <Catachan> so, sudo apt-get build-essential?
[05:21] <jrib> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:21] <Catachan> right
[05:21] <Catachan> okay
[05:22] <jrib> !compiling | Catachan
[05:22] <ubotu> Catachan: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:22] <Catachan> oh! that is a neat feature of the bots!
[05:22] <jrib> Catachan: that's a general guide but hla is a bit different.  If you really want to understand what is happening a good guide on makefile's would help best
[05:22] <Catachan> okay
[05:22] <Catachan> I will look them up
[05:22] <Catachan> thanks again
[05:22] <Catachan> lol
[05:23] <jrib> Catachan: if you just open up makefile.linux in a text editor you can probably guess what is going on too
[05:23] <Catachan> yeah
[05:23] <Catachan> I looked it over
[05:23] <Catachan> it appears to be fairly simple, in that it just tells where to install and compile and the like
[05:24] <Catachan> thought that is surely a poor explanation
[05:24] <Catachan> =-)
[05:32] <Catachan> okay, I am getting the error "No rule to make target"
[05:33] <Catachan> jrib?
[05:34] <Catachan> Sorry to call you back, about this
[05:34] <jrib> Catachan: what command are you using?
[05:35] <Catachan> make -f makefile.linux
[05:36] <jrib> Catachan: what is the result of: md5sum makefile.linux
[05:37] <Catachan> c20340067b767c18ca562a1ba595ef0f  /usr/hlasrc/makefile.linux
[05:37] <jrib> heh ok so we have the same file
[05:37] <Catachan> I had to use the whole path name
[05:38] <jrib> Catachan: cd /usr/hlasrc
[05:38] <Catachan> oh, right
[05:38] <Catachan> that would work
[05:38] <jrib> does make -f makefile.linux work now?
[05:39] <Catachan> uhm I get::   gcc -DLinux -c -O2 -o hlaparse.o hlaparse.c
[05:39] <jrib> yeah, it's doing its thing
[05:39] <Catachan> but it may be at work at the moment
[05:39] <Catachan> okay
[05:39] <jrib> wait a few minutes
[05:39] <Catachan> cool
[05:39] <Catachan> sure thing
[05:40] <jrib> just to remind you, it's a bad habit to install things into /usr directly.  That's really for the package manager to work with.  When  you install custom stuff you should use /usr/local or /opt
[05:40] <Catachan> okay, I will try to remember that and keep it in mind
[05:41] <Catachan> hmm
[05:41] <Catachan> flex -8 -i hla.flx
[05:41] <Catachan> make: flex: Command not found
[05:41] <Catachan> make: *** [lex.yy2.o]  Error 127
[05:41] <Catachan> this is not the best thing is it?
[05:42] <Catachan> once you compiled it, where did you move it to?
[05:44] <Catachan> actually, that is a bad question,
[05:49] <Catachan> okay, so I moved it to usr/local/hla, and I changed the .bashrc accordingly, and ran the source ~/.bashrc
[05:49] <Catachan> when I run the command hla, or hla -? I get a cannot execute binary
[05:50] <Catachan> thank you for your help, I am about to loose the internet connection at about 12:58, so I will do some fiddling myself, then if I can't get it, finish in the morning.
[05:50] <Catachan> Thank you so very much man
[05:51] <Catachan> jrib, by the way, did you bother to add the four lines mentioned in the install instructions for defining the variables and such?
[05:53] <Catachan> never mind, it doesn't help if I comment them out or not. Thank you very much!
[05:54] <jrib> Catachan: install flex and recompile
[05:54] <Catachan> flex?
[05:55] <Catachan> apt get install flex?
[05:55] <jrib> 23:41 <         Catachan > flex -8 -i hla.flx
[05:55] <jrib> 23:41 <         Catachan > make: flex: Command not found
[05:55] <jrib> yep
[05:55] <Catachan> okay
[05:56] <jrib> if you wan to use /usr/local then put hla and hlaparse into /usr/local/bin  but you still need the hlalibs which aren't in here I think
[05:56] <Catachan> okay
[05:56] <jrib> Catachan: you can probably just use the hlalib/ and include/ that you have from before (the failed binary installation)
[05:57] <Catachan> okay
[05:16] <jrib> !mk
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <b0sanac> jrib, i am here
[05:16] <jrib> b0sanac: what is your native language?
[05:16] <b0sanac> Macedonian
[05:16] <b0sanac> i know macedonian serbian
[05:16] <b0sanac> and english a little
[05:16] <b0sanac> :)
[05:17] <jrib> k, it's easier for me to explain how to do this using a text editor
[05:17] <jrib> if you visit ubotu's page you can see the instructions for the gui
[05:17] <jrib> b0sanac: enter this command:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <b0sanac> jrib, but pls can you tell me what to write in terminal
[05:17] <b0sanac> ok im in the list
[05:17] <b0sanac> and now ?
[05:18] <b0sanac> what to edit ?
[05:18] <jrib> now copy what you have there and paste it into the form at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Afterwards, submit it and give me the link to the result
[05:18] <b0sanac> but
[05:18] <b0sanac> what to be the syntax ?
[05:18] <b0sanac> a
[05:19] <jrib> I need to see what you have
[05:19] <jrib> do you understand?
[05:19] <b0sanac> Posted by b0sanac on February 9th 17:19
[05:19] <b0sanac> done
[05:19] <b0sanac> i paste it
[05:20] <b0sanac> is new linux
[05:20] <b0sanac> i install it now
[05:21] <b0sanac> jrib, are you here ?
[05:21] <jrib> b0sanac: yes I need the URL
[05:22] <b0sanac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4875/ ??
[05:22] <b0sanac> that ?
[05:24] <b0sanac> jrib, ??
[05:24] <jrib> yes, thanks.  I need to read it, give me a second :)
[05:25] <b0sanac> ok :)
[05:25] <jrib> b0sanac: ok you see lines 16 and 17?
[05:25] <jrib> # deb http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:25] <jrib> # deb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:25] <b0sanac> yep
[05:25] <b0sanac> and ?
[05:25] <jrib> remove the # in front
[05:26] <jrib> ok?
[05:26] <b0sanac> thats all ?
[05:26] <jrib> no
[05:26] <jrib> do you want "multiverse" too?
[05:26] <b0sanac> ok
[05:26] <b0sanac> jrib, i want all to listen play :)
[05:26] <b0sanac> mp3 mpeg thats all video
[05:26] <b0sanac> thats all
[05:26] <b0sanac> :D
[05:27] <jrib> ok add the word "multiverse" to the end of lines 16 and 17
[05:27] <b0sanac>  deb http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:27] <b0sanac>  deb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:27] <b0sanac> man yes
[05:27] <b0sanac> but where to add it ?
[05:27] <b0sanac> deb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multivers
[05:28] <b0sanac> there :) ?
[05:28] <b0sanac> jrib, ??/
[05:28] <jrib> b0sanac: yes, but you forgot the "e" at the end of "multiverse"
[05:28] <b0sanac> :)
[05:28] <b0sanac> hehe i see
[05:29] <b0sanac> now is  deb http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[05:29] <b0sanac>  deb-src http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[05:29] <b0sanac> its ok now ?
[05:29] <b0sanac> a
[05:29] <jrib> do the same for lines 31 and 32, remove teh # and add multiverse
[05:29] <b0sanac> ok :)
[05:30] <b0sanac> done
[05:30] <b0sanac> thats all ?
[05:30] <jrib> now save and close gedit
[05:30] <b0sanac> done
[05:30] <b0sanac> i save and close
[05:30] <b0sanac> and what now ?
[05:30] <jrib> now run 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:30] <b0sanac> done
[05:30] <b0sanac> i type it
[05:30] <b0sanac> :)
[05:30] <b0sanac> and i wait
[05:30] <jrib> now try to install what you were trying to install before
[05:31] <b0sanac> mp3
[05:31] <b0sanac> i want to install
[05:32] <b0sanac> done i install
[05:32] <b0sanac> i wait
[05:32] <b0sanac> :)
[05:32] <b0sanac> but
[05:32] <b0sanac> i want to install mpeg too
[05:32] <b0sanac> can you tell me how ?
[05:32] <jrib> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs
[05:33] <b0sanac> that is for ?
[05:33] <b0sanac> mpeg or mp3 ?
[05:33] <jrib> almost everything
[05:33] <b0sanac> :)
[05:33] <b0sanac> hehe
[05:33] <b0sanac> ok
[05:33] <b0sanac> D:
[05:33] <b0sanac> wait
[05:34] <b0sanac> gxine is already the newest version.
[05:34] <b0sanac> libxine-main1 is already the newest version.
[05:34] <b0sanac> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[05:34] <b0sanac> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 105 not upgraded.
[05:34] <b0sanac> ??
[05:34] <b0sanac> what  is that ?
[05:34] <jrib> it means you have all of those packages already
[05:35] <b0sanac> soo
[05:35] <b0sanac> i can watch movie DVD i can listem mp3 mpeg that is it ?
[05:35] <b0sanac> WONDERFUL !
[05:35] <jrib> you can't watch dvd yet
[05:35] <b0sanac> ohh
[05:35] <jrib> well not css protected dvd anyway
[05:36] <b0sanac> what i need to install to watch dvd a ?
[05:37] <b0sanac> come on lets fix that too then
[05:37] <b0sanac> :)
[05:37] <jrib> you need libdvdcss2
[05:37] <jrib> http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/extras/
[05:37] <jrib> download the deb for libdvdcss2 and double click on it
[05:37] <jrib> or add teh seveas repository if you want instead
[05:37] <b0sanac> libdvdcss2
[05:37] <b0sanac>     Description:	Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries More...
[05:37] <b0sanac>     To allow applications to access some of the more advanced features
[05:37] <b0sanac>     of the DVD format.
[05:37] <b0sanac>     Package:	libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:37] <b0sanac>     Package:	libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[05:37] <b0sanac> what package ?
[05:37] <b0sanac> 1 or two ?
[05:39] <b0sanac> jrib, ?
[05:39] <jrib> do you use i386 or amd64?
[05:40] <b0sanac> i dont know
[05:40] <b0sanac> -b0sanac- VERSION xchat 2.6.8 Linux 2.6.15-26-386 [i686/3.00GHz] 
[05:40] <b0sanac> i686
[05:40] <b0sanac> ?
[05:40] <b0sanac> :)
[05:40] <b0sanac> that is it or ?
[05:40] <jrib> do you use i386 or amd64?
[05:40] <jrib> bah
[05:40] <jrib> b0sanac: uname -a
[05:41] <b0sanac> Linux linux-security 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:41] <jrib> ok install i386
[05:41] <b0sanac> so what package is ?
[05:41] <b0sanac> :)
[05:41] <jrib> the one with i386 in the name :)
[05:42] <b0sanac> Simple foundation for reading DVDs - devel files
[05:42] <b0sanac> To allow applications to access some of the more advanced features of the DVD format.
[05:42] <jrib> not the devel files
[05:42] <b0sanac> error
[05:42] <b0sanac> what to download man :D
[05:42] <b0sanac> tell me
[05:42] <jrib> http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/dapper-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:43] <b0sanac> done
[05:43] <b0sanac> and where to extract ?
[05:43] <jrib> I hope it works without any other deps...  just double click on it
[05:43] <b0sanac> ok i type install
[05:43] <jrib> it should open with gdebi
[05:43] <b0sanac> done
[05:43] <b0sanac> i install it :)
[05:43] <b0sanac> i install all
[05:43] <b0sanac> :D
[05:43] <b0sanac> and now its all ok ?
[05:43] <b0sanac> :)
[05:43] <jrib> ok now you should be able to play dvd's protected by css too
[05:43] <b0sanac> jrib, you know
[05:44] <b0sanac> jrib, YOU ARE THE BEST MAN ON THIS SERVER !
[05:44] <b0sanac> :)
[05:44] <b0sanac> nobody tell me like you :)
[05:44] <b0sanac> some ppl tell me website
[05:44] <b0sanac> and pm me
[05:44] <b0sanac> :)
[05:44] <b0sanac> but yea
[05:44] <b0sanac> you are the best :)
[05:45] <jrib> thanks, have fun with ubuntu
[05:45] <b0sanac> thanks you too :) ! !!! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :************************* THANKS
[05:46] <b0sanac> nick jrib !!!!!! IS THE BEST ON THIS SERVER ! WHO HELP PPL !
[05:46] <jrib> b0sanac: k, take it easy :)
[06:22] <PriceChild> lol jrib :)
[06:44] <Catachan> jrib, thank you for the help last night, (as I was Catachan_) I managed to get the source of the program to compile alittle after midnight, so thankyou!