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ubotuIn ubotu, jrib said: no hostname is should mention the gui way to change the hostname permanently:  system > administration > networking  "General" tab02:27
PriceChild!hostname02:30
ubotuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly02:30
PriceChilddoes the networking one actually change your whole hostname?02:31
jrib"whole hostname"?02:31
PriceChildi mean your "real" hostname...02:32
PriceChildI thought it only changed it for the outside world's image... although I'm probably wrong :)02:32
PriceChildUuu I just tried it and I'm wrong :)02:33
jribI didn't know you could do that to be honest, but yes I believe it has the same effect as editing /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname02:33
PriceChildUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab02:34
PriceChildwhoops02:34
PriceChild!no hostname is <reply> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab02:34
ubotuI'll remember that PriceChild02:34
jribPriceChild: thanks02:34
PriceChildno problem :)02:35
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HobbseeSportChick: no02:40
HobbseeSportChick: thanks02:40
PriceChildstrange entrance... :)02:41
Hobbseehey PriceChild02:42
HobbseePriceChild: she noticed me02:42
PriceChildhehe i guessed :)02:43
Mez^lart Hobbsee02:49
Mez@lart Hobbsee02:49
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SD-PlisskenPriceChild your everywhere.. lol02:49
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Hobbsee@lart Mez02:49
=== Ubugtu spanks Mez with a pink tutu
PriceChildhow do you spank someone with a tutu...02:50
SD-Plisskenlol02:50
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MezPriceChild, lol - i like being spanked thoguh02:51
PriceChildi didn't want to know Mez :)02:52
HobbseeMez: is just crazy02:54
Mezi like spanking more though02:54
Hobbseemore than?02:54
SportChickHobbsee: actually, I memo'd you02:55
Mezmore than being spanked02:56
HobbseeSportChick: sorry, yes.02:57
kgoetzPriceChild: perhaps Mez is in the tutu, not spanked withit02:57
Mezkgoetz, only on weekends02:57
kgoetzMez: naturally02:58
PriceChildkgoetz, I still don't want to picture that either :)02:58
MezPriceChild, why not?  :(02:58
HobbseeMez: ah02:58
kgoetzPriceChild: aw, you hurt his feelings :(02:58
kgoetz(however, i do agree with you :P)02:58
kgoetzhi Hobbsee02:59
Mezkgoetz, :'(02:59
kgoetzMez: </302:59
Hobbseehey kgoetz :)02:59
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kgoetz*waves*02:59
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Mezs/flame//03:00
Mezs/ant/ed/03:00
Hobbseenot from purple flames03:00
kgoetzerror: no ed\n03:01
MezHobbsee, purple flames are my friends03:01
HobbseeMez: pink ones too?03:01
kgoetzHobbsee: they go with his tutu03:02
MezHobbsee, ESPESCIALLY pink03:02
Mezall kinds of flames ;)03:02
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MezHobbsee, that was a mere puddle03:02
Hobbseeyou wish03:03
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MezI'm off to bed now03:05
Hobbseebye Mez03:05
MezHobbsee, not joining me ? :P03:06
Mezoh, no03:06
Mezit's mid afternoon for you03:06
Mez:P03:06
Mezlol03:06
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HobbseeMez: nope.  wouldnt anyway.03:06
Hobbseeit's 1pm, actually03:07
MezHobbsee, I was actually amking a reference to seperate beds03:07
Mezbut ... meh03:07
HobbseeMez: oh really now?03:07
MezHobbsee, yes, as it was meant as a double entendre ;)03:08
Hobbseeheh03:09
Mezsee, my mate walked into a bar the other day and asked for a double entendre03:09
Mezso the barman gave him one03:09
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Hobbseeheh03:13
Hobbsee!ping03:23
ubotupong03:23
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ubotuIn ubotu, frogzoo said: resize_ntfs is caution: gparted 0.1 does NOT play nice with resizing NTFS - best solution is to get a latest copy of garted 0.3 on usb, boot off a live cd, & run gparted from the usb - but by rights even this can fail, so any data you can't replace, backup.06:11
Madpilotsamin on #ubuntu just earned himself 24hrs ban for deliberate /away spamming07:28
Jucatowow07:32
jendadeliberate?07:34
jendagood morning, btw.07:34
Madpilotmorning, jenda - yes, it was deliberate. !language issues, too07:34
jendaok07:34
Madpilot* samin is away: Oooh, my ass is chafing! I'll be back in a jiffy!07:34
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Madpilot* samin is away: Oooh, my ass is chafing! I'll be back in a jiffy!07:34
Madpilot* samin is back (gone 00:00:04)07:34
Madpilot* samin is away: Oooh, my ass is chafing! I'll be back in a jiffy!07:34
naliothgotta watch those deliberate /away spammers07:35
jendaooh, Pelicano paid us a visit...07:37
Madpilotevidently he was too L337 to stay, tho ;)07:43
naliothmneptok: so if it doesn't work, can i come and drop centipedes and ants in your underwear?09:05
jendao.O09:06
mneptoknalioth: why would you thank me if it doesn't work?09:07
naliothmneptok: i'm watching #ubuntu for your answer to my last question09:08
mneptokUSB? WiFi? ugh.09:10
mneptoki have a suggestion. don't use USB for networking. :)09:11
naliothnot my equipment, i'm searching for a client requested solution09:13
mneptoknalioth: i frankly have no first hand experience, and so would be starting from scratch-09:14
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ubotuIn ubotu, mneisen said: !foo is bar11:37
ubotuIn ubotu, mneisen said: !kernelheldback is <reply> Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates11:37
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hbaiguhey, i don't have the router12:57
hbaiguit the first time i enter today12:57
apokryphoshbaigu: have you followed the instructions for fixing it?12:58
hbaigui don't have the router12:58
hbaigui don't have any router12:59
apokryphosthe router/modem you are connecting through has a problem12:59
apokryphosyou are obviously using a router/modem otherwise you wouldn't be on IRC12:59
naliothapokryphos: older unpatched versions of mirc were affected by it, too12:59
hbaiguit happen, that i enter #ubuntu when the outher also entered12:59
mneptokapokryphos: telepathy > telephony01:00
apokryphoshbaigu: you can get around this by either getting a software upgrade for your router (if available) or by reconnecting on port 800101:00
hbaigui don't have any router01:00
apokryphoshbaigu: just set your client to reconnect on port 800101:00
hbaigusoory, but i don't01:00
apokryphos...01:00
hbaiguonly adsl modem01:00
apokryphosas you are, you are vulnerable01:00
mneptokhbaigu: it could be your *modem*01:00
apokryphoshbaigu: hence router/modem01:00
apokryphos!dcc | hbaigu01:01
ubotuhbaigu: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit01:01
hbaigui know01:01
apokryphoshbaigu: so reconnect on 8001, we will test you, and then you can rejoin01:01
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mneptok!dcc > mneptok01:02
mneptokohyes01:02
hbaigubut, i only haved the bad luck to enter #ubuntu, at the same time as the outhers01:03
apokryphoshbaigu: so reconnect on 8001, we will test you, and then you can rejoin01:03
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hbaigui am in the port 800101:08
Hobbseeseems fine01:10
Hobbseehbaigu: try joining?01:11
hbaigui am there01:11
apokryphosgood to go01:12
hbaigubut, i don't have any router, and i only had the bad luck to enter #ubuntu at the same when the outhers entered, it was my first time today that i connected to freenode01:12
elkbuntuyou should probably register your nick as well01:13
hbaiguprobably01:13
apokryphoshbaigu: hm, that looks to have been the case01:13
apokryphosYou are right; I'm sorry about that.01:13
PriceChildbetter safe than sorry.01:13
hbaigunp01:14
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Hobbsee@lart mneptok01:41
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elkbuntuHobbsee, you didnt hear the decree. mneptok must be larted with #3701:42
Hobbseeelkbuntu: true.01:43
HobbseeSeveas: yes, LongPointyStick is me.  you find out if you check my alternate names (although it wasnt authed - that connection dropped from freenode a while ago, and didnt reidentify)01:43
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jribHi, can I suggest that !fishing not have that thread at the end?02:19
jribthreat even02:19
Hobbsee!fishing02:19
apokryphos!fishing02:19
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:19
apokryphosfishing is an alias for investigate02:19
apokryphosI don't really have any objection to it either way. Hobbsee?02:21
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Hobbseeapokryphos: neither.   although, of course abuse will annoy channel ops, and if you keep doing it, will likely make them remove you, just to stop creating noise02:21
jribor at least an alternative without it?02:22
elkbuntujrib, pray tell, why do you want the string removed?02:23
elkbuntujrib, if it annoys some people, then they're likely to be the type to be a PITA anyway02:24
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jribelkbuntu: well if someone is new to the channel and sees other people using the bot, it's natural to try to use the bot in the same way.  I'd like to just inform them that they can message the bot without the threat at the end.  I don't see the point in it.  Obviously, if they don't follow the rules the ops will get angry02:25
elkbuntujrib, it's not a threat, it's a safety warning02:26
jribelkbuntu: how come the other rule !factoids don't have the "safety warning"?  like !enter or !coc02:28
elkbuntujrib, you're right. we should add warnings to those as well.02:28
jribheh02:28
apokryphosI guess we can try it out for now and see people's response to it02:29
apokryphosif they don't "back off" after the factoid as it is, we can reconsider changing it back, I guess.02:29
elkbuntuapokryphos, a reword of the warning would be better than removing the string02:29
apokryphoswhat do you suggest?02:29
elkbuntuwhat about: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). I am not a toy, and using me as such will be frowned upon by the ops.02:31
apokryphoshm, I dunno02:33
apokryphosI'm a real boy!02:33
apokryphosI think it might be good to try it without, and see how it goes02:33
apokryphosBut I have to shoot off for a lecture; see you 8)02:33
jribbye02:34
jribelkbuntu: I guess what bothers me is that if the bot wasn't around I wouldn't mention the ops at all.  I would just let someone know that they should message the bot instead of spamming the channel.  But it was only a suggestion, I'll just setup my own bind if you feel people don't take it seriously without mentioning the ops02:36
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ubotuIn ubotu, erUSUL said: upgradeproblem is There is a problem with the latest linux-image-generic package (is broken as for now) it is a known bug that is being sorted out here: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/8397603:05
elkbuntuhmm... i guess it is worth it03:06
elkbuntu!upgradeproblem is There is a problem with the latest linux-image-generic package (is broken as for now) it is a known bug that is being sorted out here: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/8397603:06
ubotuI'll remember that, elkbuntu03:06
UbugtuMalone bug 83976 in soyuz "-security vs. -updates/-proposed version comparison needs to be removed" [Critical,In progress] 03:06
elkbuntuother editors, feel free to remove that when the issue is resolved03:07
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Thunderbolt_Hi. I got sent here as my router is vunerable to a DCC Exploit. I've read the instruction page and changed my connection port. And my router firmware is up to date03:13
Thunderbolt_what do I do next?03:13
HobbseeThunderbolt_: /join #thunderbolt03:14
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elkbuntuhmmm is yipe banned in -offtopic or just muted?03:33
jendamuted, AFAIK03:36
jendayup, muted.03:36
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LjLare you getting PMs saying "by berkk_01", as well as german spam?04:03
elkbuntunot i04:04
HobbseeLjL: who's it by?04:06
LjLHobbsee: 85.101.118.182 85.99.137.81 81.214.42.24904:07
LjLnicks are useless as they change it as fast as lightning04:07
HobbseeLjL: meant as in what nick04:07
Hobbseeahhh04:07
LjLemalia cem_36 meliha anyway04:07
Hobbseegot one04:07
HobbseeSportChick: ping?04:07
Hobbseerob: ping?04:08
LjLi've already queried stats p04:08
LjLoh, now ^^BARIS too04:08
LjLah same IP as meliha04:08
elkbuntustill nothing04:08
Hobbseeare they in #ubuntu?04:08
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LjLyeah they join and part quickly04:09
LjLnow ilknur04:09
LjLidents change less often04:09
arualavihello everybody, my name is Iv and I'm from #ubuntu-cat04:09
HobbseeLjL: what are they joining?04:09
elkbuntuhi arualavi04:10
LjLHobbsee: weird... this IlkNur one didn't seem to join anything at all04:10
LjLthe ones i checked had joined #ubuntu04:10
HobbseeLjL: probably a spambot04:10
HobbseeLjL: they were doing this yesterdya, too04:10
LjLthough what's weird is that they only say "by berkk_01"04:11
Hobbseeyeah04:11
LjLwell, the first of them spammed some porn, but the others didn't04:11
Hobbsee[02:11]  [Who]  berkk01Sciprt6 is n=gekolnv@85.99.137.81 (mustafa43_)04:11
Hobbsee[02:11]  [Whois]  berkk01Sciprt6 has been idle for 8 minutes and 34 seconds.04:11
LjLyes mustafa43_ is one of them, though the nick was different when he spammed me04:11
Hobbseethat's the only person on the /who list for berkk*04:12
LjLuhm, either i missed that /who before04:12
Hobbsee /who berkk*04:12
LjLHobbsee: sure, but the IP is the same as cem_36, who spammed me, so i should have seen the /who04:12
elkbuntuthey're hitting up #debian as well it seems04:13
LjLeither he wasn't online with that nick yet or i forgot to /who that one IP04:13
HobbseeLjL: dunno04:13
LjLi probably just didn't /who04:13
LjLoh, the spam again... now it's in turkish, but same site04:14
LjL(well, actually the site was the old turkish one we already got acquainted with... even though the first message was in german)04:14
elkbuntuwhy do i always miss out on this fun?04:14
LjLelkbuntu: dunno, it's not quite clear to me how they target people04:14
LjLlast time i just joined 5 or 6 clones with very different nicknames to gather as much spam as possible04:15
Hobbsee[02:16]  [Who]  berkk01Sciprt482 is n=buduo`@88.254.61.53 (HPwHk)04:17
Hobbseeis the new one04:17
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PriceChildarualavi, hey, anything we could help you with?04:26
arualavihi PriceChild, i only introduce myself04:27
PriceChildAh ok04:27
LjLuh, i just received a VERSION from freenode04:29
arualaviPriceChild: hope to learn something to op #ubuntu-cat...04:29
arualaviPriceChild: is it the correct channel?04:30
elkbuntuLjL, still getting the messages?04:30
LjLelkbuntu: nope, they've stopped about when hobbsee left04:31
elkbuntuaha! hobbsee is to blame! :04:31
LjLthe dark side of the hobbsee spammeth04:31
PriceChildarualavi, This is the home of Ubuntu operators, but not sure what you can learn from us... mostly learn by doing IMO :)04:31
arualaviPriceChild: ah ok ,thanks04:32
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SportChickhob: pong?04:37
LjLSportChick: it was about the PM spam, i think04:38
LjLi've already bothered stats p about it anyway, and it seems to have stopped for me04:38
SportChickLjL: I just woke up, haven't read my backlog yet04:38
SportChickok04:38
apokryphosaha, good to see +J survived the netsplit very well04:46
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Tm_Tapokryphos: +J ?04:57
apokryphosthrottle04:57
apokryphoswe had it disabled in #ubuntu until recently04:57
Tm_THmm, ok.04:58
SportChickgood morning, folks05:03
PriceChildmorning :)05:04
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ubotuIn #ubuntuforums, tsmithe said: ubotu, nick is <alias> nickspam06:12
PriceChildI think nick would be better off aliased to registering your nick...06:12
Tm_TPriceChild: Yup06:13
Tm_T!nickspam06:13
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently06:13
Tm_T!nick06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
LjL!nick is <alias> register06:13
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL06:13
BearPersonhrm, my bad06:53
LjLwhat?06:56
BearPersonI saw them come in, set #ubuntu +r, saw them head elsewhere, set it -r06:57
BearPersondidn't see them turn around and head in then06:57
SportChickSeveas or nalioth: you might want to set an onjoin message on -unregged saying to register and rejoin #ubuntu06:57
Seveas\o/ SportChick07:02
SportChick:)07:02
SportChickI suggested LjL do it, but only you and nalioth have sufficient access rights, Seveas07:03
LjLkeep in mind that people read onjoin notices about as much as they read channel topics :P07:03
SportChickLjL: true, but it might get some of them :)07:06
apokryphosare we still under iminent threat? ;-)07:14
apokryphos*imminent07:15
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apokryphosBearPerson: are they still around or is it safe to -r?07:17
BearPersonI guess -r should work again for now07:17
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apokryphosAysha: ok, you're good to go.07:20
apokryphosyou can join #ubuntu directly now07:20
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SportChickapokryphos: I'm not racing anyone - not in _this_ condition :)08:23
apokryphoswhat's that?08:23
SportChickapokryphos: I now have pneumonia, too :(08:24
apokryphosdang08:24
SportChickheh, that's what I said08:24
apokryphoshow serious is it?08:25
SportChickapokryphos: http://www.kirkanddonna.com/donna/08:26
apokryphosshort updates are never short :P08:28
apokryphosack, broken shoulder? Yeah, infections cause it a lot of the time.08:29
apokryphosSorry to hear :(08:29
SportChickapokryphos: yeah, it turned out longer than I thought08:29
SportChickI had lots of stuff to talk about but for _me_ that was rather short considering the content08:29
apokryphosnot sure I could trust myself with a blog, really 8)08:30
SportChickapokryphos: hehe08:30
SportChickapokryphos: well, I sort of was used to it after our trip08:31
apokryphosmight need to have one soon though for our master plan to slowly completely take over planetsuse.org08:31
SportChickbasically journaled for a year with an accompanying (edited) version online08:31
apokryphoswhich is filled with a lot of Mono/GNOME guys advertisement nonense *shock*08:31
PriceChildNot to sway the topic too much, but I'm hearing that the edgy kernel issues are fixed...08:31
apokryphoscool08:33
apokryphoswhat exactly happened with Canonical's ircd?08:35
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jendaWelcome P3L|C4N008:44
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LjL[21:23:16]  <hellmet> Dwonload The Offical Ubuntu book here http://ubuntuforums.info/showthread.php?p=745 <- #ubuntu09:24
LjLin the doubt, i banned... but just how illegitimate is that?09:24
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hellmetYes LjL..09:29
hellmetI didn't mean to spam the channel. I thought it would be helpful for users09:30
LjLhellmet: i'm presently trying to find out if the link you gave is something illegitimate or not... for i don't quite know what the official ubuntu book is, what its copyright and distribution status is, etc09:30
LjLhellmet: for sure, however, coming into a support channel and pasting a link out of the blue isn't contemplated by the channel guidelines, you understand09:30
hellmetyou should have asked me once na. Its ok. Its legal to distribute etcetera.09:30
hellmetOh k.09:30
hellmetI won't paste links again just like that.09:31
hellmetunless asked by someone .. sorry09:31
LjLhellmet: i'll take your word on it - at any rate, you see, we have tons of more or less useful links (in our bot for instance), but if everyone just posted random ones all the time, the channel wouldn't be quite... usable09:31
LjLhellmet: it's alright, i'll remove the ban in a second09:31
hellmetplease unban me. I do love that channel a lot.. many a time, I just look at people's posts and learn stuff.09:31
hellmetThank You ..09:32
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LjLis this book actually legitimately available though? google points me to paper editions mostly09:34
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PriceChildLjL, ubuntuforums.info ?09:42
LjLPriceChild: it says "ubuntuforums india" on the top PNG09:43
PriceChildLjL, Yeah just clicked.... hmm...09:43
PriceChildLjL, That download isn't legal is it...?09:45
LjLPriceChild, i dunno. reading the thread, they do claim it's CC licensed... i'll check out the PDF. assuming the PDF actually contains the real license09:46
PriceChildLjL, in the book it says This book is published under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 open publication09:47
PriceChildlicense, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/.09:47
PriceChildI'm not happy at all with ubuntuforums.info... They've copied our entire layout etc.09:49
naliothLjL: you pushing the pR0nZ0rs in here? lolol09:49
naliothPriceChild: join the club09:49
PriceChildlol :)09:49
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LjLnalioth: no, i keep those for myself, i just give you the boring ones with ubuntu-related, if slightly irrelevant and possibly illegal, links :P09:51
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jendaVery interesting catch, BTw.10:15
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Hoosteenok..i got the redirect for the dccexploit..just checking if i'm good10:53
Hoosteenanybody?11:02
PriceChildHoosteen, hey there11:03
HoosteenPriceChild, hey there...just checking to make sure i'm good to go11:03
PriceChildHoosteen, It seems like there's no-one currently around and I'm not a #ubuntu op so I'm afraid you're just going to have to be patient for someone to test you11:03
Hoosteend'oh11:03
Hoosteenoh well...hehe11:04
PriceChildSorry Hoosteen :) And I can't see any ops active anywhere so I'm hesitant to ping a random one11:04
PriceChildJust be patient and someone will notice you soon :)11:04
MadpilotHoosteen, I'm around, and am an op in #ubuntu11:05
PriceChildwoo :)11:05
MadpilotHoosteen, please join #madpilot for a DCC test11:06
MadpilotHoosteen, ping - you need to join #madpilot if you want me to clear your #ubuntu ban - I have to test that you've actually fixed your settings...11:15
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ompaulmc44, stop haunting IRC :)11:16
mc44boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo11:16
Seveas@lart mc4411:22
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mc44Seveas: just cos you didnt include the link :p11:22
HoosteenPriceChild, thanks for your help...hehe11:23
PriceChildNo probs Hoosteen, see you in #ubuntu :)11:24
Hoosteenyeppers!11:24
SportChick@hug Seveas11:27
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