=== fluffybacon [n=fluffy@cpc2-blfs4-0-0-cust439.belf.cable.ntl.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === SAXD9 [n=SAXD9@cpe-70-120-211-252.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === skarface [i=antix@ip68-228-163-158.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === LordGamer [n=LordGame@74.12.56.244] has joined #xubuntu === stinger_au [n=stinger_@d58-105-184-200.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [01:01] morning [01:01] Question: is there a install manual for ubuntu [01:01] what does OEM mode mean and LTSP server mode mean ? [01:03] stinger_au: install manual ... yes, what those things mean i have no idea but lemme get you a link for the install manual [01:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu [01:04] i have found this [01:04] so far [01:06] yeah, that's the one i was going to give you actually [01:06] still does not explain what the different options are :( [01:07] yeah, i dunno [01:12] anyone know if the Ubuntu DVD installs the wireless client like Ubuntu Mint does? [01:13] stinger_au, OEM lets you do a default install where only language, password and a few questions remain for a user to answer [01:14] stinger_au, LTSP let you setup a local client /server setup (like classroom) [01:15] LordGamer: which wireless client? ... there are a few of them [01:15] doesnt really matter [01:15] just need one [01:16] LordGamer: i use wifi-radar ... i like that one alot, you going to be running gnome or xfce? [01:16] gnome [01:17] does that show the connected icon by the clock? [01:17] LordGamer: nope, you want http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ [01:18] oh ok that right! [01:18] I knew that :( [01:18] LordGamer: and i don't think that is installed by default (but i could be wrong) and if it isn't, it is in the repositories and can be installed via synaptic, apt-get, or aptitude [01:19] LordGamer: i don't use gnome so i'm not sure what all they have changed since 5.10 [01:19] ok cool [01:19] what are u using? [01:19] xfce [01:19] why? [01:19] hence xubuntu ;) [01:20] LordGamer: i like it better [01:20] :P [01:20] never thought about the x :P [01:20] I dont think there is a gubuntu :P [01:21] LordGamer: no, ubuntu uses gnome by default but kubuntu and xubuntu are "branch" or "child" distros which use different configurations (kde and xfce respectively) [01:21] ah === barrett9h [n=doti@201.19.104.67] has left #xubuntu [] === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu [01:43] maxamillion: let me know what you think...http://linuxgrazie.brinkster.net/XubuntuTransparency.html [01:43] grazie: oh awesome, thanks ... i'll keep that in mind [01:43] maxamillion: wanted to put it on the wiki, but didn't seem to fit in really === maxamillion bookmarks it [01:44] maxamillion: let me know if it works when you get a chance [01:44] grazie: ok [01:45] grazie: yeah, its good === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@p57BB6FDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === linux_ [n=linux@adsl-70-241-13-155.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #Xubuntu [01:57] i can't install xubuntu in either normal or graphics mode because it won't recognize my video card (an old 4 MB one) [01:57] any suggestions? [02:02] anyone in here? [02:03] darn, can't even start xubuntu on the lowest graphics settings === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-225-198.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu === bigredradio [n=david@65.106.88.139.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:03] is there a way to set the refresh rate slower than 60 Hz when installing Xubuntu 6.10? [02:03] I'm trying to add a sudo app to the launcher. Anyone know how I can do this? Basically run an app as root from the launcher. [02:03] don't think anyone is in here bigredradio === dredhammer [n=dredhamm@pool-71-247-15-204.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:04] .......i think the solution you're looking for is gsudo [02:05] neozen: I don't have it installed. I'll give it a try but this is for xfce not gnome. [02:06] anyone now how to set the refresh rate to install xubuntu? [02:06] in the boot options === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === Prestwick [n=prestwic@84.12.76.86] has joined #xubuntu [02:11] Heya, I've got an atheros based wifi card arriving tomorrow, how good is xubuntu with madwifi? [02:12] bigred: ::nods:: xfce might work w/ it [02:12] ...haven't really messed w/ it much [02:12] ....could always just have it open in a terminal [02:14] and then just punch in your password into the terminal when standard sudo asks for it [02:15] but there's got to be a better way [02:15] ...since synaptic/etc know to ask for your password so they can access the proper files [02:15] linux_, i would do it in the xorg.confg file [02:16] linux_, i am new to xubuntu installing it now but i run gentoo on my desktop [02:23] any answers on the madwifi front yet guys? [02:25] Any at all...? Guess not :< [02:30] Prestwick: missinged the question [02:30] s/missinged/missed [02:30] bigredradio: gksudo will give you the graphical password prompt. [02:30] Oh sorry ^^; [02:31] Heya, I've got an atheros based wifi card arriving tomorrow (a Netgear WG511T), how good is xubuntu with madwifi? [02:31] PuMpErNiCkLe: Thanks. I updated sudoers to not need a passwd. Not secure, but I am the only users. [02:38] during the install it never asked me to set the root password ? [02:38] is there a default root password [02:41] prest ...to my knowledge works just fine [02:41] Ah okay, thanks Neozen ^^ [02:42] seen a metric #$@load of tutorials regarding it on the ubuntu forums [02:42] sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome [02:42] and run nm-applet [02:42] ...and perhaps it will work for you as mine did [02:42] <---- has an intel pro 3945abg [02:44] I'll look around for you [02:44] Okay, I'll install that now and try it when I get it tomorrow [02:45] makes it really easy (if it works) [02:45] you get system-tray point and click networking [02:49] yeah its working. I'm testing it on my wired connection [02:50] according to this: http://www.technudgelive.com/linux/?page_id=10 that particular card is supported by the kernel [02:50] Oh excellent, thanks Neozen, how can I get nm-applet to start automatically? Just save the session when I close? [02:51] yeah [02:51] ..that'd do it [02:51] okay, excellent :) [02:51] *should === bigredradio [n=david@65.106.88.139.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #xubuntu ["Kopete] [02:54] Thanks for the help then! :) === Prestwick is now known as Prest-away === syd [n=syd@S0106001195549fb4.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] ....hello [02:59] hello ...anyone else having problems with download speed for flashplayer ? [02:59] ...I haven't noticed any issues [03:00] then again.... I'm still using an older flashplayer [03:00] i have a broadband connection and ftp download from macromedia is about 2kbs [03:00] hmmmm [03:01] eww === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] allo unikon [03:02] hello there [03:06] yo [03:06] i have a radeon video card which i am trying to install [03:06] i installed the drivers [03:06] but still got very bad refresh rate [03:06] hmm [03:06] and xorg.conf does not seem to have been updated [03:07] have you tried easyubuntu? [03:07] ? [03:07] just a sec [03:07] i have gentoo running on my desktop [03:07] so if you have a howto for radeon install for xubuntu i will be happy [03:07] ......oh [03:07] yeah [03:07] I have one for xubuntu [03:08] he he i.e i am not such a big noob [03:08] http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ [03:08] ....go there [03:08] ...download the package [03:08] ..install [03:08] add the specified key to the registry [03:08] *key area..... you know what I mean [03:08] anyone using a all in one printer,flatbed scanner,copier with Xubuntu Dapper [03:09] and then go the system menu [03:09] ...select easyubuntu [03:09] go into the system tab... [03:09] hmm is this going to bloat my distro ? [03:09] lol [03:09] not really [03:09] ....should only install stuff needed to do what the individual options promise [03:10] in the system tab... select the ati checkbox [03:10] and push ok [03:10] ...you may have to enter your password [03:10] ....it should do all the work [03:11] so is there a normal way to install radeon drivers ? [03:11] ...probably [03:11] ....that's just the method I've used with success thusfar [03:11] k [03:12] well the whole idea about linux is to learn things i guess i do that with my gentoo install, so if this is how things are done in ubuntu ill give it a try [03:12] yeah [03:12] It's just an automation tool. You can do it manually if you want. [03:12] I've just never done it [03:13] fwiw, the radeon driver is pre-installed. fglrx, the binary ati driver, is the one that isn't. === neozen chuckles [03:13] ...I stand corrected [03:13] (no ati card here) === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-225-198.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has left #xubuntu [] === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-225-198.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has joined #xubuntu [03:18] lol [03:19] working yet? [03:19] installing this easy thing [03:19] yeah [03:19] obviously end-user oriented [03:19] ...but... it works [03:19] ....provided nothing goes wrong [03:19] lol i am use to gentoo [03:19] have to do everything yourself === neozen nods [03:20] and lots of howtos [03:20] well... welcome to ubuntu [03:20] lol [03:20] well this is my server [03:20] webmin sounded very nice [03:20] ::shrugs:: [03:20] I just ssh [03:21] but if it works for you [03:21] ...go for it [03:22] well it saying that the ati drivers are all ready installed [03:22] hmm [03:23] ok [03:23] here's where I shut up [03:23] sorry mon [03:24] what are you getting the bad framerate in? [03:28] ok there fixed [03:28] i just had to update the xorg.conf [03:28] ok so this packages manager apt-get [03:28] it does not have the full list of programs in it by the looks of it [03:28] yes [03:28] webmin is not listed [03:28] ..though I recommend aptitude [03:28] do i have to add more sources to it ? [03:28] yes [03:29] there are two ways [03:29] ...gui [03:29] ..or terminal [03:29] i like terminal [03:29] kk [03:29] where can i update there package source [03:29] sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list [03:29] sweet [03:29] look for the universe repository [03:30] ..uncomment it [03:30] save file [03:30] then run sudo aptitude update [03:30] then sudo aptitude install webmin [03:30] if its in the repositories [03:30] ..it will be installed [03:31] what is aptitude ? [03:31] a front end to apt-get [03:31] gui based ? [03:31] can be [03:31] ..but works just fine from the command-line [03:31] whats wrong with just apt-get ? [03:31] ok [03:31] ...for example [03:32] ...lets say you install a kde app [03:32] ...like kate [03:32] ...kate requires kde libraries [03:32] ...so apt-get will get those along with the kate package [03:32] ....if you decide you don't want it anymore [03:32] yeah [03:32] ..and apt-get purge kate [03:32] yeah [03:32] ...those libraries won't get purged [03:33] oh [03:33] if you install w/ aptitude [03:33] it remembers what things it installed along with a package [03:33] and will remove them if they are no longer used [03:33] by anything else you have installed with aptitude [03:33] ...this... is a good thing [03:34] thus.. I use aptitude instead of apt-get [03:34] syntax is still the same for the command line of aptitude as for apt-get [03:34] sweet [03:34] ok sounds good [03:35] hmm [03:35] doesn't appear to be a package named webmin in the repositories [03:35] are you sure you have the name right? [03:36] http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html [03:36] how do i start up ssh === neozen nods [03:36] as in ssh server? [03:36] its not in /etc/init.d [03:37] or ssh client? [03:37] server [03:37] sshd [03:37] so i can ssh into the server [03:37] just a sec [03:37] instead of comming backwards and forwards to my computer [03:37] you have to install it [03:37] probably isn't installed by default [03:37] arr ok [03:37] ...look in the repositories [03:37] aptitude search sshd [03:38] got it [03:38] sudo aptitude install openssh-server [03:38] ..that'll install it ... generate keys... set it for autostart [03:39] ...and start the daemon [03:39] ......package managers are nice [03:39] sorry for the delay [03:40] oh [03:40] i did apt-get install ssh [03:40] lol === Mlittle [n=Mlittle@rn-was3a19.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:40] and yeah when i try to ssh in i get nusty message [03:40] yeah [03:40] IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! [03:40] LOL [03:41] so just run the command I told you [03:41] and type Y when appropriate [03:41] it will be completely set up [03:44] got it? [03:44] i ran the command [03:44] it says that packages where held back === neozen nods [03:44] you might want to sudo aptitude upgrade [03:45] ..that'll update all packages currently installed to the most up-to-date versions [03:45] it will take awhile [03:45] particularly if you haven't done it before [03:45] oh [03:45] lol [03:45] k [03:45] yeah thats like a emerge --update --world --deep in gentoo [03:45] ah [03:45] so packages are held back if things are not kept upto date [03:46] well ssh seems to be installed [03:46] but no keys are setup i think [03:46] aptituding openssh-server should set up keys [03:46] *generate keys automatically [03:46] k [03:46] it did for me [03:47] so how is this differnt from just ssh [03:47] i guess ssh is just the service === neozen shrugs [03:47] ...i know openssh-server works [03:47] ...and does the right things [03:47] once i learned that.... I stopped worrying about it === neozen grins [03:48] lol [03:48] k [03:48] how do i make aptitude show why it held packages back ? === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.131.96] has joined #xubuntu [03:48] I don't know [03:49] ..but usually it holds things back b/c you haven't told it to upgrade them [03:49] do you run a server ? [03:49] yes [03:49] you should check out this webmin :) [03:49] ubuntu-server edgy based [03:49] sounds cool [03:50] do you have QoS setup ? === neozen blinks [03:50] i want a proxy server with QoS [03:50] unless it was set up by default.... no [03:50] k [03:50] not something i've worried about ... [03:50] (home server) [03:50] Qos is used to allocate bandwidth [03:51] yeah [03:51] I know what its for [03:51] ..just haven't messed w/ it [03:51] so you can have your torrents going full speed and still surf the net full speed [03:51] k [03:51] anything else I could help you with? [03:52] (compiler design class is almost over.... and after that ... away go I) [03:52] a pizza with heavy everything would be nice === stinger_au says with a smile === neozen chuckles [03:53] but thanks man you been a big help [03:53] ...tell me about it [03:53] what degree you doing ? [03:53] Computer Science [03:53] he he me too [03:53] what year ? [03:53] senior [03:53] ...scary scary [03:53] ? [03:53] is that 1,2,3 ? [03:53] 4 [03:53] oh [03:53] (america) [03:53] 4 year degree is it ? [03:53] yeah [03:53] oh [03:54] i am in Australia [03:54] i am in my 3rd year [03:54] ah [03:54] <--- is in chicago [03:54] got 3 subjects to get to complete the degree [03:54] DePaul University [03:54] here its a 3 year degree [03:54] wit the option for hours which is anther year === neozen nods [03:55] hope to get a job though after i finish it here has picked up over the last 2 years - student numbers in all uni's are down alot! [03:55] hmm [03:55] how about over there ? [03:55] .......... [03:55] job market for comp-sci picking back up over here [03:55] ....but still kind of scary [03:55] we had a IT crash here - hard to get a good it job like 2002 - 2003 === neozen nods [03:56] yeah [03:56] same here... bigtime [03:56] had a lot of friends become instantly jobless [03:56] ...better not happen again [03:56] I'll move [03:56] its gone the other way for us here - lol no one wants to do comsci but the demand is still growing - lol it never stopped its only people that thought it stopped [03:56] ouch [03:57] whats the AVG going starting rate for a IT grad over there ? [03:57] here is about 40 - 45k [03:57] same here [03:57] k guess must be same around the world then [03:57] but it can go higher if you know people / get a good job [03:57] yeah [03:57] of course [03:57] ....that's what this university promised of course [03:57] ....connections [03:57] 1 -3 years exp its about 50 - 60 k === neozen nods [03:58] 3 -5 years exp its about 60 - 80k [03:58] LOL === neozen grins [03:58] I didn't do this for the money [03:58] yeah well my uni has had to sack more than half of its staff over the last 2 years [03:58] ...but it'll be nice to have a bit [03:58] all uni have had to cutback in IT [03:58] they grew to fast during the boom [03:58] yeah [03:58] and now have shrunk to fast too [03:59] I got to Monash Clayton [03:59] dont know if you have herd of Monash [03:59] nope [03:59] k [03:59] well its like a top uni here [03:59] ah [03:59] well.. its time to go [03:59] ..take care you [03:59] see ya m8 === neozen [n=neozen@wireless-225-198.wireless-vpn.depaul.edu] has left #xubuntu [] === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-84-63.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === pirate-king [n=pirate-k@daphmb01dc1-213-84.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:51] what is the smallest pc you can run on? [04:51] what is the smallest pc you can run xubuntu on? === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === Nuked [n=Nuked@unaffiliated/Nuked] has joined #xubuntu [05:15] how do I set conky so that it does not overlap xfdesktop? === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu === firefish [n=yhy@222.184.65.33] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@209.193.108.100] has joined #xubuntu === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.36] has joined #xubuntu === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu === quad3d [n=quad3d@72.183.114.200] has joined #xubuntu === mackinac [n=mackinac@d14-69-73-102.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === stick-guy [n=stick-gu@ppp-70-224-248-156.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === johansalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu === stick-guy [n=stick-gu@ppp-70-224-248-156.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === Berg [n=Berg@69-179-117-46.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:50] hello [06:50] I need to request help for installing xubuntu [06:50] on an old gateway currently running windows 98 [06:51] anyone here able to provide support? [06:53] with what precisely do you need assistance? [06:54] well something weird happens when I try and install it. The little mouse with the bars goes by and I get some text [06:54] then my CD is running but there is nothing there [06:54] to be more precise: [06:55] I put the CD in [06:55] decide to install [06:55] the mouse goes and the bar moves [06:55] I get two messages and an OK [06:55] then it goes black and no text appears [06:56] and this is from a CD I downloaded and burned. I already checked if the file was OK and it said so. === mackinac [n=mackinac@d14-69-73-102.try.wideopenwest.com] has left #xubuntu ["_x_"] [06:58] anyone? Anything? [06:59] which desktop CD is this? [06:59] and please be patient; I'm at work, for instance [07:00] oh sorry [07:00] Xubuntu edgy eft (stable) [07:00] and I have been trying to do this for over two hours so I am kind of stressed === Berg is sorry [07:00] have you tried using the alternate installer (which requires a separate download and CD burn)? [07:01] the alternate installer is text-based, requires less RAM, and generally works in cases where the desktop one may fail [07:01] inform me please [07:02] I am using the ISO I downloaded from http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/ [07:03] I presume you chose a Desktop CD, correct? [07:03] yes [07:03] then please download and burn the corresponding Alternate install CD [07:03] will the other one just give me more options as to installing> [07:03] thanks alot crimsun [07:03] <3 linux community === Jiraiya [n=Ouindoz@89.2.53.36] has joined #xubuntu [07:04]