[02:21] <zakame> good morning
[02:23] <Hobbsee> morning zakame
[02:23] <Hobbsee> hey praetor
[02:23] <praetor> morning Hobbsee
[02:23] <praetor> is it really morning over there? :P
[02:24] <Hobbsee> er, sort of
[02:25] <Hobbsee> it's breakfast time, that's for sure
[02:27] <zakame> morning Hobbsee, praetor :)
[02:27] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:30] <manchicken> This windows 386 video is almost the most popular post on my site.
[02:30] <manchicken> And it's not even that old.
[02:31] <manchicken> It's only 12 hours old, already has 135 views.
[02:31] <manchicken> That's more than one view every 6 minutes.
[05:23] <rideout> I've been having problems with the latest updates to fiesty, klauncher is all messed up
[05:23] <rideout> what can I do to help people diagnose the problem?
[05:23] <PaGuX> hello
[05:24] <rideout> PaGuX: hey
[05:24] <PaGuX> my xorg is taking 80 % cpu utilization
[05:24] <PaGuX> hi rideout
[05:24] <PaGuX> is it abnormal ?
[05:25] <PaGuX> i have nvidea grahic card installed
[05:25] <PaGuX> gforce 512 mb
[05:26] <PaGuX> but why o why xorg is taking so much cpu
[05:27] <rideout> PaGuX: do you have a bunch of gui programs running?
[05:28] <PaGuX> normal stuff browser , knoqueror , kpackge etc
[05:29] <PaGuX> PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[05:29] <PaGuX>  5474 root      15   0 89180  52m 3884 R   82  2.6 216:28.34 Xorg
[05:29] <PaGuX> 18907 gp        16   0  244m 112m  23m S   15  5.6   9:22.47 firefox-bin
[05:29] <PaGuX> 18904 gp        15   0 32128  16m  12m S    1  0.8   0:03.66 konsole
[05:29] <PaGuX>     1 root      16   0  1632  120   68 S    0  0.0   0:01.15 init
[05:29] <PaGuX>     2 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.01 migration/0
[05:29] <PaGuX>     3 root      34  19     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
[05:29] <PaGuX>     4 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0
[05:29] <PaGuX>     8 root      10  -5     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:01.39 events/0
[05:29] <PaGuX> it seems linux uses more resources that winXP !!
[05:32] <PaGuX> is it a bug ?
[01:01] <praetor> hi Hobbsee
[01:03] <praetor> battlestar galactica
[01:03] <Hobbsee> ahhhhh
[01:58] <toma> hi
[01:58] <Hobbsee> hey toma!
[01:59] <toma> hey Hobbsee, how's life?
[02:02] <Hobbsee> toma: good.  i keep seeing/hearing from  the police though
[02:03] <toma> o oh, what did you do ?
[02:03] <toma> poke someone for real?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> nope
[02:03] <Hobbsee> they're not wanting to arrest me - just some guys bought sparklers and an aerosol can from work yesterday - made a lovely bomb with it
[02:03] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Have you been hacking more than code with more than emacs? :P
[02:04] <manchicken> Ooh, I used to make those when I was a kid.
[02:04] <manchicken> Were they magnesium sparklers?
[02:04] <Hobbsee> manchicken: dunno,  standard ones for cakes and stuff
[02:04] <Hobbsee> manchicken: hrm?  :P
[02:04] <manchicken> The super-bright ones...
[02:05] <manchicken> I wonder if there's a dialect thing going on... I'm unaware of sparklers that you'd put on a cake?
[02:05] <manchicken> Is this like the cookies vs. biscuits thing?  heh
[02:05] <Hobbsee> could well be
[02:05] <manchicken> Were they like candles?
[02:06] <Hobbsee> http://www.crakephoto.com/albums/fireworks2003/images/IMG_2200-Sparklers.jpg
[02:06] <manchicken> Gotcha.
[02:06] <Hobbsee> http://www.austinrocky.org/phire/sparklers.jpg
[02:06] <manchicken> We're thinking the same thing.
[02:06] <Hobbsee> er, not the second one
[02:06] <manchicken> I used to make bombs with those and throw them in corn fields.
[02:06] <Hobbsee> yep
[02:06] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:06] <manchicken> Quite fun.
[02:06] <Hobbsee> im sure they are - as long as they dont hurt me, or anyone else :P
[02:07] <manchicken> But I would have never put one of those on a cake.
[02:07] <manchicken> Okay, so they weren't the second one (those were just four zoomed in really close)
[02:07] <Hobbsee> nope, sorry
[02:07] <manchicken> So they were smaller ones.
[02:07] <Hobbsee> yep
[02:07] <manchicken> How would you make a bomb with those?  Jam 'em in the nozzle?
[02:08] <manchicken> Wouldn't be very reliable or give you much time to run....
[02:08] <manchicken> The magnesium ones will burn hot enough to melt through the can and catch the propellant...  the ones you're talking about don't sound like they'd burn that hot.
[02:08] <Hobbsee> aerosol cans are flammable.
[02:09] <Hobbsee> dunno
[02:09] <Hobbsee> oh, it was 10 packs of sparklers.  multiple ones in each pack, of course
[02:09] <manchicken> Yeah, but you gotta get the stuff out quick enough to cause pressure, or it's just a fireball... not a bomb.
[02:09] <manchicken> Me and my buddies used to blow stuff up in corn fields all the time.
[02:09] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure exactly what it was - they didnt say much
[02:09] <manchicken> Good fun.
[02:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:09] <manchicken> Did the kids hurt anybody?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> dunno
[02:10] <Hobbsee> hopefully themselves :P
[02:10] <manchicken> Naw, as long as they're not hurting anybody and they clean up their mess, bombs can be fun.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> although, they were smart enough to all go to different lines when buying equipment, and to pay with cash, not a card.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> except if it's in a public place or something, yeah
[02:10] <manchicken> How many kids do you know who pay with card?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> most of them
[02:10] <manchicken> Really?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> debit or credit cards
[02:10] <Hobbsee> sure
[02:10] <manchicken> That's interesting.
[02:11] <Hobbsee> debit cards are common here - really common
[02:11] <manchicken> Plastic is still hard for the kiddos around here.
[02:11] <manchicken> Yeah, I like the debit cards.
[02:12] <manchicken> I've got one of each as well.
[02:12] <manchicken> My wife has 2 credit cards though.
[02:12] <Hobbsee> credit card is purple - woo!
[02:12] <manchicken> Ooh.  Dacia's has flowers ^_^
[02:12] <manchicken> That card of hers looks prettier than it is valuable ^_^
[02:13] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:13] <manchicken> Dacia and I are gonna go house shopping today.
[02:15] <Hobbsee> nice!
[02:16] <manchicken> We're right now in the heart of the south side of Chicago (7-8 Million people)
[02:16] <manchicken> We're looking to move to a small town with 0.1% of that population ^_^
[02:16] <Hobbsee> nice
[02:16] <Hobbsee> eep
[02:17] <manchicken> The town we'll be looking in today is projected to have 7,955 people as of July 2005.
[02:17] <Hobbsee> nice
[02:18] <toma> manchicken: if they all show up for a bbq, you will not think of it as a 'small city'
[02:19] <manchicken> toma: I'd think it's a small city compared to what it would look like if all of my current city showed up for a bbq ^_^
[02:19] <manchicken> Can you imagine what 8 million people grouped together would look like?
[02:19] <manchicken> That'd be like a sea of people.
[02:20] <manchicken> I wonder how you'd measure that in km^2
[02:20] <toma> hmm yes, that's a lot of live cd's indeed
[02:20] <manchicken> Some neat statistics: http://www.city-data.com/city/Manteno-Illinois.html
[02:20] <manchicken> No murders since 1999
[02:21] <manchicken> heh
[02:21] <manchicken> Crime statistics are fun.
[02:22] <manchicken> They're doing them in per-100K people... so since the town has under 8K people, they have to multiply the crime rate.  heh
[02:45] <Hobbsee> because it needs some more work
[03:25] <bddebian> Howdy
[07:28] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[07:30] <dinosaur-rus> I'd like to suggest a "cleanup" feature for Adept -- remove redundant packages (packages that are not referenced by other installed packages)
[08:49] <jjesse> afternoon :) :)
[08:53] <kwwii> seele: sorry for not responding till now. a presentation is in kde svn... playground/artwork/Oxygen/Presentation/presentation_2.pdf
[08:53] <kwwii> of course the icons are there too ;-)
[09:12] <seele> kwwii: cool
[09:20] <jjesse> anything fun hapening today?
[09:22] <nixternal> I see that Basket became the default notes for Kubuntu
[09:22] <jjesse> nice
[09:22] <nixternal> I guess good choice, and thanks for having the examples in there so I can figure out how to go about using it wisely
[09:23] <nixternal> kwwii: make a good Basket Notes icon :) rip a killer one!
[09:54] <seele> kwwii: who is ruphy?
[10:02] <Lure> nixternal: not default, as it is still in universe
[10:02] <Lure> nixternal: but useful for power note takers ;-)
[10:38] <jjesse> kwwii: do you have a minute?
[10:52] <kwwii> seele: a young italian kid helping out on oxygen (mainly coding)
[10:52] <kwwii> jjesse: sure, but I am going to bed in about a minute ;-)
[10:53] <jjesse> kwwii: i'm working on updating the kubuntu chpt for the official book, when does artwork for feisty get to a spot that i can do screenshots?
[10:53] <kwwii> jjesse: good question :-)
[10:53] <kwwii> jjesse: probably not for another week or so
[10:53] <jjesse> kwwii: just getting some pushback from the editor at prentince hall
[10:53] <kwwii> jjesse: but I am not planning on changing that much to begin with
[10:54] <kwwii> mainly minor tweaks, nothing major
[10:54] <jjesse> kwwii: so should i tell them to wait a week or just start w/ the latest herd?
[10:54] <kwwii> they could wait a week, but honestly, nothing is going to change that much
[10:55] <jjesse> ok then i will start screenshotting things this week
[10:56] <kwwii> cool, I'll let you know if anything changes enough to make a difference
[10:56] <jjesse> thanks kwwii
[10:56] <kwwii> if you look at the release schedule you'll see the artwork deadlines
[10:56] <kwwii> (that I made up)
[10:56] <kwwii> np
[10:57] <kwwii> going to sleep now...see everyone tomorrow
[10:57] <jjesse> l8ter
[11:34] <nixternal> Lure: I didn't install it that I know of, and my KNotes are gone now
[12:12] <Lure> nixternal: that is strange - basket is for sure in universe...
[12:12] <nixternal> ya, it just popped back up after recent updates
[12:12] <nixternal> and my KNotes is now gone
[12:14] <Lure> nixternal: strange - I have basket installed, but knotes are still in kontact (I just do not use them)
[12:14] <nixternal> Lure: hahahaha, I am a moron!
[12:15] <nixternal> I am using the Oxygen icons and the new icon is different, so I looked past it
[12:15] <nixternal> ;)
[12:15] <Lure> ;-)
[12:15] <nixternal> wow, I feel stupid after that one
[12:15] <nixternal> well nonetheless, the latest Basket looks nice, and I like the examples in it