[12:50] <nysosym> hi there
[02:43] <coz_> evening all
[02:46] <darkmatter> yo' coz_
[02:47] <coz_> darkmatter, hey guy
[02:48] <coz_> just readin gup on the ubuntu/linspire get together
[02:48] <darkmatter> ahhh
[02:49] <darkmatter> still a hot topic, eh????
[02:50] <coz_> well for me it will be... I expected this from way back not linspire in particular but that cononical is a business that nees to move on so
[02:50] <darkmatter> aye
[02:51] <coz_> my nephew refuses to use ubntu because it is too corporate based as it is and he is gnu oriented solely so ubuntu is out the iwnodw for him
[02:51] <darkmatter> but linspire aint that bad to be honest... ans basing the new releases on ubuntu is a good thing
[02:51] <darkmatter> coz_, lol.
[02:52] <coz_> darkmatter, yeah thats fine but the CNR from linspire to ubuntu is not my preference
[02:52] <darkmatter> I'm not going to even comment on the whole gnu thing... I think I've beat that with a stick before
[02:52] <darkmatter> coz, even if they do... its not the same cnr
[02:53] <coz_> darkmatter,  things like gnu are not tstuff I get attached to but I am concerened bout the cnr into ubuntu
[02:53] <coz_> well still it iwl be there like slab
[02:53] <coz_> i was looking at linux mint and wondering if it will be able to use beryl easily
[02:53] <darkmatter> as in one you subscribe to.. the other (the portable to distros like ubuntu/suse/etc) is FREE
[02:53] <darkmatter> including the repos
[02:54] <darkmatter> more need to read the fine print :)
[02:54] <darkmatter> mint??? ewww
[02:54] <darkmatter> mint like uses the broken usp thingy...
[02:54] <darkmatter> o_o
[02:54] <coz_> darkmatter, well for me ubuntu has taken second place to beryl so I am more concerendd when i switch from ubuntu which linux is going to run beryl best
[02:55] <darkmatter> bah... beryl is a shoddy hack.... compiz is better... not as rich useless crap.. but its a sacrifice I'm willing to make :P
[02:56] <darkmatter> *in
[02:56] <coz_> i see your name on one of the beryl themes darkvista something
[02:56] <darkmatter> yeah... because I theme
[02:56] <darkmatter> doesnt mean I actually use it on a daily basis... always preferred compiz
[02:57] <coz_> darkmatter,  well beryl is fro me not compiz and quinn storm is like 20 minutes from me so i think i will stick with beryl
[02:57] <darkmatter> coz_ whatever works
[02:57] <coz_> yep
[02:58] <coz_> well its more like loylaty at this point
[02:59] <darkmatter> meh.. I dont do the loyalty dance anymore when it comes to the foss world... last time I did that my loyalty was betrayed *shrug*
[02:59] <darkmatter> so now I'll just look after mine own interests xD
[02:59] <coz_> what I think i will do is pull out of most things associated with ubuntu from now on... I don't like the political atmosphere  since last summer and I don't want to waiste my artistic abilities on someting that is offensive to me
[02:59] <coz_> I mean ubuntu
[03:00] <coz_> Ithink i will start pulling away from it
[03:00] <klepas> darkmatter: http://njpatel.blogspot.com/2007/02/while-i-have-your-attention_07.html
[03:01] <darkmatter> *shrug*, I'd just go back to slack... but dont wanna spend that much time setting up
[03:01] <darkmatter> and gentoos for ricers :P
[03:02] <darkmatter> klepas, saw that alreafy... debated as to how much it sucks already ;)
[03:04] <klepas> sucks?
[03:04] <klepas> there are some neat things there
[03:05] <darkmatter> not really
[03:06] <darkmatter> every last one has been done to death... the guy just (poorly) bastardized previous stuff
[03:06] <darkmatter> all I see is macistanux
[03:06] <darkmatter> correction... more importantly
[03:07] <darkmatter> all I see is another computer centric user interface instead of a user centric computer interface
[03:08] <darkmatter> dated to say the least... granted,,, the fella has the ability to gimp/scape gfx
[03:08] <darkmatter> but that doesnt make one a designer
[03:09] <klepas> i like some of the ideas
[03:09] <klepas> and the fact it's purdy wins over hearts and minds
[03:09] <klepas> but there are issues
[03:15] <darkmatter> issues a plenty
[06:28] <kwwii> moin
[06:36] <elkbuntu> moin Mr Wimer
[06:37] <kwwii> howdy elkbuntu
[06:38] <kwwii> I finally figured out what the ubuntu login sound remdinds me of....the tikibar intro music
[06:47] <elkbuntu> heh
[07:40] <kwwii> how in the heck does one install compiz themes?
[07:44] <elkbuntu> kwwii, no freaking idea
[07:45] <kwwii> ;-)
[07:50] <BHSPitMonkey> :)
[02:08] <klepas> moin darkmatter
[02:09] <darkmatter> hi klepas
[02:10] <klepas> what's doin?
[02:55] <darkmatter> klepas... not doin much really... just waiting fer my brainkillin' dose of cold meds to kick in so I can fall asleep
[03:07] <klepas> darkmatter: sucks
[03:09] <darkmatter> klepas, yeah... I'm only at the puter for relatively short amounts of time.... so no time to work...
[03:10] <klepas> :(
[03:10] <klepas> bbs; drink with mum
[03:41] <klepas> back
[03:50] <kwwii> re
[03:50] <kwwii> howdy klepas
[04:10] <klepas> hey kwwii :)
[05:42] <troy_s> kwwii you in?
[05:45] <troy_s> greets coz_
[05:45] <coz_> troy_s, hey guy
[06:04] <troy_s> open up the bikeshed flood
[06:04] <troy_s> kwwii
[06:04] <troy_s> ping
[06:10] <kwwii> troy_s: pong, but not for long ;-)
[06:10] <kwwii> going for a beer with a friend
[06:10] <kwwii> troy_s: I'll be back in about two hours
[06:10] <troy_s> kwwii sure
[06:10] <troy_s> chat then
[06:12] <kwwii> cool, see you
[10:12] <nysosym> hi there :)