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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3786 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more content02:35
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3787 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more network content04:46
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3788 generic/serverguide/C/wikis.xml:06:17
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for Wiki introduction. Include material for MoinMoin06:17
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: wiki section and complete Installation, Configuration and Verification06:17
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: sub-sections.06:17
nixternalooh, I am not the only one working tonight06:17
bhuvannixternal: it's daytime for me!06:17
nixternaldamn, it is 23:17 here06:18
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mdkemorning11:02
jsgotangcohi11:08
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poningrunixternal: that has to be the corniest blog post ever02:51
poningruumm... http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/02/09/tech-wormdetector-20070209.html wtf isnt that icarus??03:00
poningruerr sorry wrong channel03:01
nixternalhaha03:07
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3789 generic/serverguide/C/wikis.xml:06:04
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for MediaWiki section. Added Installation and Configuration06:04
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: subsections for MediaWiki.06:04
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3790 ubuntu/keeping-safe/C/keeping-safe.xml: Added backing-up section to keeping-safe06:47
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3791 ubuntu/office/C/office.xml: Clarifications and notes in sending-documents in office.xml07:37
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nixternaljjesse: what's up? :)09:20
jjessewatching basketball09:20
jjesseworking on my book chpt and working on booking flights for next work assignment09:21
nixternalewww, it isn't any good until next month09:21
nixternalI have been working on the KMail template documentation a little here and a little there09:21
jjesseah for that bug that came across09:21
nixternalI need to finish the network.xml for Kubuntu docs today and maybe internet.xml as well09:21
nixternalya09:21
nixternalnobody knows how they work, heh09:21
nixternalI haven't even figured them out all of the way just yet09:22
jjessehmmm i wonder how much it will cost from grand rapids to salt lake city09:26
nixternalshouldn't be to expensive09:28
jjessebut it's ski season09:28
nixternaltrue09:29
jjesse$467.00 for one person09:29
jjessegrand rapids -> denver -> salt lake city09:29
nixternaljeesh09:31
jjesseyeah i know, that's what happens when you don't live in as big a city as chicago :)09:40
nixternalmuhehe09:40
jjesse$228 from o'hare to slc09:41
nixternalthat is a little bit better09:43
mdkeevening guys09:51
jjessehello mdke09:51
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nixternalhiya mdke09:53
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jjesseman i hate my laptop09:54
nixternalI love mine09:54
jjessei have one of those toshibas that is part of the group lawswuit09:55
jjesselawsuit09:55
nixternalmy silly little laser mouse (Microsoft) scroll wheel is starting to stick a little bit09:55
Admiral_Chicagoit was a pretty nice mouse09:55
Admiral_Chicagoi'm using these crappy emacs stock mouse, terrible. i miss my laser one09:56
nixternalemacs stock mouse?09:59
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Admiral_Chicagoerr emachines10:06
Admiral_Chicagohaving a rough day.10:06
jjessei have a vi mouse :)10:06
Admiral_Chicagoi was sitting in my programming course and we were talking about editors and the other ubuntu user and I were giggling because the professor was talking about vi and emacs10:07
jjessenixternal: how are kubuntu docs comming, what cna i help you on?10:19
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jjesseshould the M in menu when referencing the k menu be capatlized?10:29
jjessei would like to say it should be10:29
Admiral_Chicagoi think it is Kmenu10:33
Admiral_Chicagobut i don't know for real10:33
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jjessenixternal: Ping what are you doing for K Menu, K Menu or K menu or kmenu?10:34
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nixternaljjesse: KMenu11:34
nixternaljjesse: everything is open for help!11:34
LaserJockoohhhh11:44
nixternaloooh11:44
nixternallook what happens, I tell jjesse everything is open for help and he disconnects11:45
nixternalfeel the love11:45
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LaserJockon planet.debian.org they have a little thing on "capturing" CLI stuff11:52
nixternalcapturing?11:53
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nixternalinteresting11:54
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LaserJockwe were thinking how to do CLI screencasts11:57
nixternalis that a screencast really or just a review of a history like file?11:59
nixternalI wish he would have put up a demo11:59
popeyyou could video using normal screencast tools12:01
popeybut just use the terminal full screen12:01
popeyor record using something like screen12:01
nixternalI wonder how necessary a cli screencast would be though?12:02
popeyindeed12:02
popeyi am trying to avoid the cli as much as possible in my screencasts12:02
nixternalall a person needs to do is type what you type, which can be done with <screen> in XML or <code> in HTML12:02
popeyit scares people12:02
popeyindded12:02
popeyand with the command line you can copy paste, which isnt easy with a gui12:02
nixternalpopey: that is awesome, exactly the point, try not to get the new people going OH SH!T DOS!!!12:02
nixternalhaha12:03
popey:)12:03
nixternalthere was a guy working on a KDE screencast application, screenKast I believe was its name, I have no clue what happened12:03
nixternalI know a lot of devs worked with him to get stuff fixed to have it included in universe12:04
popeyhttp://www.captorials.com/12:04
popeythat guy12:04
nixternalya, I think so12:04
popeythere are flaws with most of the screencast tools12:04
popeyin my opinion xvidcap is the best one12:04
popeyalthough it too has flaws, the author dropped me a mail asking how it could be improved, which is always good to see12:05
nixternalno doubt12:05
nixternalxvidcap recorded my screencast, but like in double time12:05
nixternalso I would move the mouse slow, and then type, so people were like holy sh!t you type fast12:06
nixternalhahaha12:06
LaserJocknixternal: I'd like to do the whole packaging guide as a CLI "screencast"12:07
nixternalWOW12:08
nixternalthat would be nuts12:08
popeyI would recommend getting a terminal full screen, and make the font nice and big, but small enough that you have plenty of column space12:08
nixternalcool nonetheless, but nuts12:08
popey1024x768 type thing12:08
LaserJockpopey: but why not use this method that I found12:08
LaserJock?12:08
nixternalapt-get source foobar12:08
nixternalcd foobar12:08
nixternalfix it up12:09
nixternaldch -i12:09
nixternalblah blah blah (closes: #1)12:09
popeyLaserJock: what method?12:09
nixternaldpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k2e2c012412:09
nixternalcd ../12:09
nixternallintian -i *.dsc12:09
nixternalwell12:09
nixternallinitian -i newfoobar.dsc12:09
LaserJockpopey: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/capturing-and-replaying-console-terminal-sessions-with-script-and-scriptreplay12:09
nixternalpbuilder-feisty build newfoobar.dsc12:10
nixternaldput revu *source_changes12:10
nixternaloh12:10
LaserJockalthought the disadvantage would be that this method would actually run commands on the user's computer12:10
popeyhow would someone watch it?12:10
nixternalcr!msun: ping ^^ upload that please :)12:10
popeypeople like to watch videos12:10
popeyand on different platforms12:10
popeywhat if they are on dapper and your script needs edgy (for example)12:11
LaserJockwell, but that sort of defeats the purpose12:11
popeyif it is an mpeg/ogg/avi/flv they can watch anywhere12:11
nixternalLaserJock: that would be kind of cool though, there are some things I would like to see done12:11
nixternali.e., merges that have to be done manually due to errors12:11
popeyLaserJock: depends what the purpose is surely?12:12
nixternalLaserJock: was I supposed to do the MIR for edubuntu-docs btw?12:12
nixternalI think I forgot until just now12:12
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LaserJocknixternal: oh yeah12:13
LaserJockpopey: sure12:13
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nixternalLaserJock: I am using it full time now12:13
LaserJockemacs?12:13
nixternalmy only issue is spell checking is cruddy, but tother than that12:13
nixternalyes12:13
nixternaland Feisty + Emacs == crappy fonts, so you have to use a default instead of some nice ttf fonts12:14
nixternal1) Edubuntu docs MIR, 2) Kubuntu Docs, 3) KMail Docs for KDE 4, 4) KHelpCenter + Strigi code12:16
nixternalshush12:16
nixternalheh, Ubugtu noticed me that he couldn't find a kde bug 4 :)12:16

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