=== LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@h-67-102-70-2.snfccasy.covad.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:35] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3786 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more content === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru__ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@vpn3.maa.collab.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:46] Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3787 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more network content === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === etank [n=elake@74-140-129-0.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === motin [n=motin@84-217-14-215.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:17] Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3788 generic/serverguide/C/wikis.xml: [06:17] Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for Wiki introduction. Include material for MoinMoin [06:17] Ubuntu Documentation: wiki section and complete Installation, Configuration and Verification [06:17] Ubuntu Documentation: sub-sections. [06:17] ooh, I am not the only one working tonight [06:17] nixternal: it's daytime for me! 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[03:01] err sorry wrong channel [03:07] haha === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@237-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-169-104.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === aanjhan_ [n=aanjhan@59.92.87.6] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-58.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === omgponiezlol [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-84-63.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-doc === kjcole [n=kjcole@158.59.225.19] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:04] Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3789 generic/serverguide/C/wikis.xml: [06:04] Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for MediaWiki section. Added Installation and Configuration [06:04] Ubuntu Documentation: subsections for MediaWiki. === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-226-93.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:47] Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3790 ubuntu/keeping-safe/C/keeping-safe.xml: Added backing-up section to keeping-safe === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-226-93.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === j1mc [n=j1m@adsl-75-21-84-63.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:37] Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3791 ubuntu/office/C/office.xml: Clarifications and notes in sending-documents in office.xml === paulproteus [n=paulprot@pool-151-196-232-71.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-226-93.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:20] jjesse: what's up? :) [09:20] watching basketball [09:21] working on my book chpt and working on booking flights for next work assignment [09:21] ewww, it isn't any good until next month [09:21] I have been working on the KMail template documentation a little here and a little there [09:21] ah for that bug that came across [09:21] I need to finish the network.xml for Kubuntu docs today and maybe internet.xml as well [09:21] ya [09:21] nobody knows how they work, heh [09:22] I haven't even figured them out all of the way just yet [09:26] hmmm i wonder how much it will cost from grand rapids to salt lake city [09:28] shouldn't be to expensive [09:28] but it's ski season [09:29] true [09:29] $467.00 for one person [09:29] grand rapids -> denver -> salt lake city [09:31] jeesh [09:40] yeah i know, that's what happens when you don't live in as big a city as chicago :) [09:40] muhehe [09:41] $228 from o'hare to slc [09:43] that is a little bit better [09:51] evening guys [09:51] hello mdke === mdke high fives philbull [09:53] hiya mdke === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-226-93.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:54] man i hate my laptop [09:54] I love mine [09:55] i have one of those toshibas that is part of the group lawswuit [09:55] lawsuit [09:55] my silly little laser mouse (Microsoft) scroll wheel is starting to stick a little bit [09:55] it was a pretty nice mouse [09:56] i'm using these crappy emacs stock mouse, terrible. i miss my laser one [09:59] emacs stock mouse? === paulproteus [n=paulprot@pool-151-196-232-71.balt.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [10:06] err emachines [10:06] having a rough day. [10:06] i have a vi mouse :) [10:07] i was sitting in my programming course and we were talking about editors and the other ubuntu user and I were giggling because the professor was talking about vi and emacs [10:19] nixternal: how are kubuntu docs comming, what cna i help you on? === mdke_ [n=matt@85-210-237-138.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:29] should the M in menu when referencing the k menu be capatlized? [10:29] i would like to say it should be [10:33] i think it is Kmenu [10:33] but i don't know for real === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:34] nixternal: Ping what are you doing for K Menu, K Menu or K menu or kmenu? === grumpymo1e [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:34] jjesse: KMenu [11:34] jjesse: everything is open for help! [11:44] oohhhh [11:44] oooh [11:45] look what happens, I tell jjesse everything is open for help and he disconnects [11:45] feel the love === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-52-85.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:52] on planet.debian.org they have a little thing on "capturing" CLI stuff [11:53] capturing? === nixternal looks [11:54] interesting === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:57] we were thinking how to do CLI screencasts [11:59] is that a screencast really or just a review of a history like file? [11:59] I wish he would have put up a demo [12:01] you could video using normal screencast tools [12:01] but just use the terminal full screen [12:01] or record using something like screen [12:02] I wonder how necessary a cli screencast would be though? [12:02] indeed [12:02] i am trying to avoid the cli as much as possible in my screencasts [12:02] all a person needs to do is type what you type, which can be done with in XML or in HTML [12:02] it scares people [12:02] indded [12:02] and with the command line you can copy paste, which isnt easy with a gui [12:02] popey: that is awesome, exactly the point, try not to get the new people going OH SH!T DOS!!! [12:03] haha [12:03] :) [12:03] there was a guy working on a KDE screencast application, screenKast I believe was its name, I have no clue what happened [12:04] I know a lot of devs worked with him to get stuff fixed to have it included in universe [12:04] http://www.captorials.com/ [12:04] that guy [12:04] ya, I think so [12:04] there are flaws with most of the screencast tools [12:04] in my opinion xvidcap is the best one [12:05] although it too has flaws, the author dropped me a mail asking how it could be improved, which is always good to see [12:05] no doubt [12:05] xvidcap recorded my screencast, but like in double time [12:06] so I would move the mouse slow, and then type, so people were like holy sh!t you type fast [12:06] hahaha [12:07] nixternal: I'd like to do the whole packaging guide as a CLI "screencast" [12:08] WOW [12:08] that would be nuts [12:08] I would recommend getting a terminal full screen, and make the font nice and big, but small enough that you have plenty of column space [12:08] cool nonetheless, but nuts [12:08] 1024x768 type thing [12:08] popey: but why not use this method that I found [12:08] ? [12:08] apt-get source foobar [12:08] cd foobar [12:09] fix it up [12:09] dch -i [12:09] blah blah blah (closes: #1) [12:09] LaserJock: what method? [12:09] dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k2e2c0124 [12:09] cd ../ [12:09] lintian -i *.dsc [12:09] well [12:09] linitian -i newfoobar.dsc [12:09] popey: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/capturing-and-replaying-console-terminal-sessions-with-script-and-scriptreplay [12:10] pbuilder-feisty build newfoobar.dsc [12:10] dput revu *source_changes [12:10] oh [12:10] althought the disadvantage would be that this method would actually run commands on the user's computer [12:10] how would someone watch it? [12:10] cr!msun: ping ^^ upload that please :) [12:10] people like to watch videos [12:10] and on different platforms [12:11] what if they are on dapper and your script needs edgy (for example) [12:11] well, but that sort of defeats the purpose [12:11] if it is an mpeg/ogg/avi/flv they can watch anywhere [12:11] LaserJock: that would be kind of cool though, there are some things I would like to see done [12:11] i.e., merges that have to be done manually due to errors [12:12] LaserJock: depends what the purpose is surely? [12:12] LaserJock: was I supposed to do the MIR for edubuntu-docs btw? [12:12] I think I forgot until just now === medders [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:13] nixternal: oh yeah [12:13] popey: sure === nixternal fires up emacs-wiki :) [12:13] LaserJock: I am using it full time now [12:13] emacs? [12:13] my only issue is spell checking is cruddy, but tother than that [12:13] yes [12:14] and Feisty + Emacs == crappy fonts, so you have to use a default instead of some nice ttf fonts [12:16] 1) Edubuntu docs MIR, 2) Kubuntu Docs, 3) KMail Docs for KDE 4, 4) KHelpCenter + Strigi code [12:16] shush [12:16] heh, Ubugtu noticed me that he couldn't find a kde bug 4 :)