[02:35] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3786 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more content
[04:46] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3787 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more network content
[06:17] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3788 generic/serverguide/C/wikis.xml:
[06:17] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for Wiki introduction. Include material for MoinMoin
[06:17] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: wiki section and complete Installation, Configuration and Verification
[06:17] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: sub-sections.
[06:17] <nixternal> ooh, I am not the only one working tonight
[06:17] <bhuvan> nixternal: it's daytime for me!
[06:18] <nixternal> damn, it is 23:17 here
[11:02] <mdke> morning
[11:08] <jsgotangco> hi
[02:51] <poningru> nixternal: that has to be the corniest blog post ever
[03:00] <poningru> umm... http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/02/09/tech-wormdetector-20070209.html wtf isnt that icarus??
[03:01] <poningru> err sorry wrong channel
[03:07] <nixternal> haha
[06:04] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3789 generic/serverguide/C/wikis.xml:
[06:04] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for MediaWiki section. Added Installation and Configuration
[06:04] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: subsections for MediaWiki.
[06:47] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3790 ubuntu/keeping-safe/C/keeping-safe.xml: Added backing-up section to keeping-safe
[07:37] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: philbull * r3791 ubuntu/office/C/office.xml: Clarifications and notes in sending-documents in office.xml
[09:20] <nixternal> jjesse: what's up? :)
[09:20] <jjesse> watching basketball
[09:21] <jjesse> working on my book chpt and working on booking flights for next work assignment
[09:21] <nixternal> ewww, it isn't any good until next month
[09:21] <nixternal> I have been working on the KMail template documentation a little here and a little there
[09:21] <jjesse> ah for that bug that came across
[09:21] <nixternal> I need to finish the network.xml for Kubuntu docs today and maybe internet.xml as well
[09:21] <nixternal> ya
[09:21] <nixternal> nobody knows how they work, heh
[09:22] <nixternal> I haven't even figured them out all of the way just yet
[09:26] <jjesse> hmmm i wonder how much it will cost from grand rapids to salt lake city
[09:28] <nixternal> shouldn't be to expensive
[09:28] <jjesse> but it's ski season
[09:29] <nixternal> true
[09:29] <jjesse> $467.00 for one person
[09:29] <jjesse> grand rapids -> denver -> salt lake city
[09:31] <nixternal> jeesh
[09:40] <jjesse> yeah i know, that's what happens when you don't live in as big a city as chicago :)
[09:40] <nixternal> muhehe
[09:41] <jjesse> $228 from o'hare to slc
[09:43] <nixternal> that is a little bit better
[09:51] <mdke> evening guys
[09:51] <jjesse> hello mdke
[09:53] <nixternal> hiya mdke
[09:54] <jjesse> man i hate my laptop
[09:54] <nixternal> I love mine
[09:55] <jjesse> i have one of those toshibas that is part of the group lawswuit
[09:55] <jjesse> lawsuit
[09:55] <nixternal> my silly little laser mouse (Microsoft) scroll wheel is starting to stick a little bit
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> it was a pretty nice mouse
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm using these crappy emacs stock mouse, terrible. i miss my laser one
[09:59] <nixternal> emacs stock mouse?
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> err emachines
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> having a rough day.
[10:06] <jjesse> i have a vi mouse :)
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i was sitting in my programming course and we were talking about editors and the other ubuntu user and I were giggling because the professor was talking about vi and emacs
[10:19] <jjesse> nixternal: how are kubuntu docs comming, what cna i help you on?
[10:29] <jjesse> should the M in menu when referencing the k menu be capatlized?
[10:29] <jjesse> i would like to say it should be
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i think it is Kmenu
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> but i don't know for real
[10:34] <jjesse> nixternal: Ping what are you doing for K Menu, K Menu or K menu or kmenu?
[11:34] <nixternal> jjesse: KMenu
[11:34] <nixternal> jjesse: everything is open for help!
[11:44] <LaserJock> oohhhh
[11:44] <nixternal> oooh
[11:45] <nixternal> look what happens, I tell jjesse everything is open for help and he disconnects
[11:45] <nixternal> feel the love
[11:52] <LaserJock> on planet.debian.org they have a little thing on "capturing" CLI stuff
[11:53] <nixternal> capturing?
[11:54] <nixternal> interesting
[11:57] <LaserJock> we were thinking how to do CLI screencasts
[11:59] <nixternal> is that a screencast really or just a review of a history like file?
[11:59] <nixternal> I wish he would have put up a demo
[12:01] <popey> you could video using normal screencast tools
[12:01] <popey> but just use the terminal full screen
[12:01] <popey> or record using something like screen
[12:02] <nixternal> I wonder how necessary a cli screencast would be though?
[12:02] <popey> indeed
[12:02] <popey> i am trying to avoid the cli as much as possible in my screencasts
[12:02] <nixternal> all a person needs to do is type what you type, which can be done with <screen> in XML or <code> in HTML
[12:02] <popey> it scares people
[12:02] <popey> indded
[12:02] <popey> and with the command line you can copy paste, which isnt easy with a gui
[12:02] <nixternal> popey: that is awesome, exactly the point, try not to get the new people going OH SH!T DOS!!!
[12:03] <nixternal> haha
[12:03] <popey> :)
[12:03] <nixternal> there was a guy working on a KDE screencast application, screenKast I believe was its name, I have no clue what happened
[12:04] <nixternal> I know a lot of devs worked with him to get stuff fixed to have it included in universe
[12:04] <popey> http://www.captorials.com/
[12:04] <popey> that guy
[12:04] <nixternal> ya, I think so
[12:04] <popey> there are flaws with most of the screencast tools
[12:04] <popey> in my opinion xvidcap is the best one
[12:05] <popey> although it too has flaws, the author dropped me a mail asking how it could be improved, which is always good to see
[12:05] <nixternal> no doubt
[12:05] <nixternal> xvidcap recorded my screencast, but like in double time
[12:06] <nixternal> so I would move the mouse slow, and then type, so people were like holy sh!t you type fast
[12:06] <nixternal> hahaha
[12:07] <LaserJock> nixternal: I'd like to do the whole packaging guide as a CLI "screencast"
[12:08] <nixternal> WOW
[12:08] <nixternal> that would be nuts
[12:08] <popey> I would recommend getting a terminal full screen, and make the font nice and big, but small enough that you have plenty of column space
[12:08] <nixternal> cool nonetheless, but nuts
[12:08] <popey> 1024x768 type thing
[12:08] <LaserJock> popey: but why not use this method that I found
[12:08] <LaserJock> ?
[12:08] <nixternal> apt-get source foobar
[12:08] <nixternal> cd foobar
[12:09] <nixternal> fix it up
[12:09] <nixternal> dch -i
[12:09] <nixternal> blah blah blah (closes: #1)
[12:09] <popey> LaserJock: what method?
[12:09] <nixternal> dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k2e2c0124
[12:09] <nixternal> cd ../
[12:09] <nixternal> lintian -i *.dsc
[12:09] <nixternal> well
[12:09] <nixternal> linitian -i newfoobar.dsc
[12:09] <LaserJock> popey: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/capturing-and-replaying-console-terminal-sessions-with-script-and-scriptreplay
[12:10] <nixternal> pbuilder-feisty build newfoobar.dsc
[12:10] <nixternal> dput revu *source_changes
[12:10] <nixternal> oh
[12:10] <LaserJock> althought the disadvantage would be that this method would actually run commands on the user's computer
[12:10] <popey> how would someone watch it?
[12:10] <nixternal> cr!msun: ping ^^ upload that please :)
[12:10] <popey> people like to watch videos
[12:10] <popey> and on different platforms
[12:11] <popey> what if they are on dapper and your script needs edgy (for example)
[12:11] <LaserJock> well, but that sort of defeats the purpose
[12:11] <popey> if it is an mpeg/ogg/avi/flv they can watch anywhere
[12:11] <nixternal> LaserJock: that would be kind of cool though, there are some things I would like to see done
[12:11] <nixternal> i.e., merges that have to be done manually due to errors
[12:12] <popey> LaserJock: depends what the purpose is surely?
[12:12] <nixternal> LaserJock: was I supposed to do the MIR for edubuntu-docs btw?
[12:12] <nixternal> I think I forgot until just now
[12:13] <LaserJock> nixternal: oh yeah
[12:13] <LaserJock> popey: sure
[12:13] <nixternal> LaserJock: I am using it full time now
[12:13] <LaserJock> emacs?
[12:13] <nixternal> my only issue is spell checking is cruddy, but tother than that
[12:13] <nixternal> yes
[12:14] <nixternal> and Feisty + Emacs == crappy fonts, so you have to use a default instead of some nice ttf fonts
[12:16] <nixternal> 1) Edubuntu docs MIR, 2) Kubuntu Docs, 3) KMail Docs for KDE 4, 4) KHelpCenter + Strigi code
[12:16] <nixternal> shush
[12:16] <nixternal> heh, Ubugtu noticed me that he couldn't find a kde bug 4 :)