geser | jharr: make a wrapper script setting the needed PATH as this will also work if the user sets an own PATH | 12:16 |
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bdmurray | crimsun: I have some questions about amixer and sound drivers if you have a moment. | 12:24 |
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Adri2000 | who is still running edgy? | 12:38 |
lionel | Adri2000: I have a Edgy box at work | 12:39 |
Nafallo | Adri2000: I do | 12:39 |
Nafallo | Linux ogre 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:29:32 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux | 12:39 |
Nafallo | dooh | 12:39 |
Nafallo | not the server | 12:39 |
Nafallo | I'm on a client as well :-P | 12:39 |
Nafallo | damn irssi | 12:40 |
Adri2000 | if you have access to an edgy desktop: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/obconf/+bug/62346 | 12:40 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62346 in obconf "[SRU] Missing libobrender.so.1 -> unable to launch obconf" [Medium,Fix committed] | 12:40 |
Adri2000 | it's really easy to test :) | 12:40 |
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Nafallo | aha | 12:49 |
Nafallo | Adri2000: already in the archive? :-) | 12:49 |
Adri2000 | Nafallo: yep, -propoed | 12:49 |
Adri2000 | proposed | 12:50 |
Nafallo | *installing* | 12:50 |
Adri2000 | thanks! | 12:51 |
Adri2000 | now hope it works :p | 12:51 |
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Nafallo | Adri2000: launchpad is not fast today, but adding WFM ;-) | 12:52 |
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Adri2000 | great | 12:53 |
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ScottK | While people are testing, I think that https://launchpad.net/bugs/75017 still needs testing too. | 12:55 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 75017 in kubuntu-default-settings "SRU: remove /.hidden file " [Undecided,Fix committed] | 12:55 |
TheMuso | Does anybody find that if one is using usplash/framebuffer, and one is in the console, the colours are all funny? | 01:00 |
TheMuso | Like the blues for directories are a dark grey etc? | 01:01 |
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crimsun | bdmurray: I'm traveling internationally this week, so catching me is going to be difficult. What questions do you have? | 01:12 |
sistpoty | hi folks | 01:12 |
sistpoty | anyone uploading obconf to -updates already? | 01:12 |
sistpoty | bug #62346 (finally 5 acks) | 01:13 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62346 in obconf "[SRU] Missing libobrender.so.1 -> unable to launch obconf" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62346 | 01:13 |
crimsun | sistpoty: I can handle that one | 01:13 |
sistpoty | crimsun: ok, thanks | 01:13 |
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Adri2000 | 5 already? | 01:14 |
bdmurray | crimusn: I was curious how amixer determines what capabilities a sound card has. | 01:14 |
sistpoty | Adri2000: unless I counted wrong | 01:14 |
bdmurray | crimsun: I was curious how amixer determines what capabilities a sound card has. | 01:14 |
Adri2000 | ah yes, thanks Fujitsu | 01:14 |
sistpoty | Adri2000: if Nafallo's WFM means "works for me" *g* | 01:14 |
crimsun | bdmurray: amixer doesn't determine anything of the sort. alsa-lib exposes that via alsa-driver. | 01:15 |
sistpoty | crimsun, StevenK: btw. this one needs attention as well: bug #68481 | 01:15 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 68481 in drbd0.7 "[SRU] change of /bin/sh to dash in edgy breaks drbd0.7-module-source build" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68481 | 01:15 |
Fujitsu | Adri2000: np | 01:15 |
sistpoty | and siretart ^^ | 01:15 |
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Nafallo | sistpoty: is there another meaning? :-) | 01:16 |
sistpoty | Nafallo: while glimpsing at the bug mail, I first read WTF ;) | 01:17 |
Nafallo | sistpoty: lol | 01:17 |
crimsun | bdmurray: each audio codec enumerates that information; look in the kernel source for precisely which elements are exposable | 01:18 |
bdmurray | crimsun: okay. I'm was looking at bug where the reporter does not have a 'Mic Boost' option and was curious where it did or did not come from. | 01:18 |
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crimsun | bdmurray: that's a known bug; I'll be backporting that fix next week. | 01:18 |
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bddebian | Heya | 01:19 |
bdmurray | crimsun: okay so it is independent of the driver / soundcard? | 01:19 |
ScottK | bddebian: Heya | 01:19 |
bddebian | Hi ScottK | 01:19 |
crimsun | bdmurray: the missing mic boost bug? no, it only affects HDA | 01:20 |
ScottK | bddebian: Would you please re-look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4333 - Adri2000 found a few things and I re-uploaded... | 01:20 |
crimsun | bdmurray: it's very specific to feisty and HDA codecs | 01:20 |
sistpoty | hi bddebian | 01:20 |
bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 01:20 |
crimsun | bdmurray: status In Progress would be fine | 01:20 |
bdmurray | crimsun: the bug I was looking at was HDA and Edgy. | 01:20 |
bddebian | ScottK: If Adri2000 found them, can't Adri2000 re-upload? :-) | 01:20 |
crimsun | bdmurray: with edgy-updates/security kernel installed? | 01:21 |
crimsun | bdmurray: if so, that's largely the base code as feisty's | 01:21 |
bdmurray | crimsun: not sure I'll check. | 01:21 |
bdmurray | crimsun: thanks for the help. I have also seen a couple of bugs where it looks like the reporter has a sound card and the kernel module loaded but 'asoundconf list' returns nothing. Where could I head next? | 01:23 |
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sistpoty | Adri2000: what's your secret that you got so much testing for your sru? | 01:31 |
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sistpoty | hi LaserJock | 01:32 |
Nafallo | sistpoty: he asked. | 01:32 |
Nafallo | :-) | 01:32 |
sistpoty | well... anyone dosemu (dapper) or xmms-sid (edgy) ? *g* | 01:32 |
LaserJock | hi sistpoty | 01:32 |
Adri2000 | and as I said, it's easy to see if the fix works or not :) | 01:32 |
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crimsun | bdmurray: the debuggingsoundproblems wiki page is a good start; ubuntu-audio will follow-up on those | 01:38 |
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bddebian | Are we supposed to be in a REVU sprint? | 01:43 |
sistpoty | bddebian: yep | 01:44 |
geser | is the motu-uvf team working already? | 01:44 |
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=== geser too | ||
Adri2000 | :) | 01:45 |
bddebian | Jesus, REVU just keeps growing and growing... | 01:45 |
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geser | bddebian: this reminds me to review your libtifiles2 upload | 01:49 |
bddebian | geser: Thx man | 01:50 |
bddebian | At least someone loves me ;-P | 01:50 |
geser | bddebian: looking again at that unzip.c file: do you believe it's redistributable without the licence text? | 01:52 |
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bddebian | geser: Didn't I add the license text? | 01:53 |
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sistpoty | are you talking about libtifiles2-1.0.2/src/minizip/? looks like a part of zlib1g to me | 01:55 |
geser | bddebian: sort of, where did you find it? | 01:56 |
bddebian | geser: It's mentioned in COPYING iirc correctly. I'll check in a sec | 01:56 |
geser | sistpoty: what to you think about the Info-ZIP copyright in unzip.c from that dir? | 01:57 |
bddebian | Yeah, I took the license from ZLIB, because of this: mztools.c: License: Same as ZLIB (www.gzip.org) | 01:58 |
sistpoty | geser: no problem, since that very file (only a few lines changed) is in zlib1g sourcepackage | 01:59 |
sistpoty | geser: with same copyright info | 02:00 |
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geser | bddebian: advocated | 02:07 |
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bddebian | geser: Wow, thx | 02:21 |
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Fujitsu | Hey white! Haven't seen you around in a while. | 02:50 |
white | well i relocated | 02:51 |
white | back in .au :) | 02:51 |
Fujitsu | Indeed. | 02:51 |
white | nice and sunny :) | 02:51 |
Fujitsu | Unfortunately. | 02:51 |
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Fujitsu | China was nice, -15C at times. | 02:53 |
white | they went crazy here at college, we have to pay fees for every mbit | 02:55 |
Fujitsu | Ouch. | 02:55 |
white | well great that i have another account here at uni and that i can tunnel stuff via ssh :) | 02:55 |
white | holy shit, 1,5 weeks on vacations, damn i have a backlog | 02:58 |
Fujitsu | Heh. | 02:59 |
_ion | white: How much does a megabyte cost? | 03:00 |
Fujitsu | white: There was an issue reported here a couple of weeks back. There's a bashism in 915resolution that's causing a failure when installing on a non-Intel machine. | 03:00 |
white | _ion: i guess 3 cents, not quite sure, i won't pay anyway :) | 03:02 |
Fujitsu | 3 cents? That's not too bad. | 03:02 |
white | Fujitsu: bah, i will try to have a look when i got things settled down :) | 03:02 |
white | has there been an upgrade to the ubuntu package? | 03:03 |
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Fujitsu | We've got the latest Debian version, with the only change being the addition of the suspend/resume scripts. | 03:03 |
_ion | fujitsu: Not too bad? It's more than 20 dollars when you download an Ubuntu CD. | 03:03 |
Fujitsu | I guess. | 03:04 |
white | ah that suspend/resume thing, i guess i have to look into it, didn't quite know what to do with it so i ignored it so far | 03:04 |
Fujitsu | In Debian, acpi-support has those bits, but Ubuntu's doesn't. That 915resolution change shouldn't be merged into Debian at the moment. | 03:05 |
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white | great | 03:06 |
Fujitsu | (or that was the status when I last checked Debian acpi-support a month or so back) | 03:07 |
ScottK | Adri2000: How goes the huge source package build? | 03:12 |
ScottK | bddebian: Thanks for the re-review. | 03:12 |
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white | quote from a user-mail : "I see you did a port of ktechlab to ubuntu feisty." | 03:19 |
white | rotfl :) | 03:19 |
white | Hobbsee: hi :) | 03:19 |
ajmitch | white: must have been a challenging port | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | hey white!!! | 03:19 |
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white | ajmitch: sometimes the users know things about me i don't even know so far :) | 03:20 |
ajmitch | heh | 03:20 |
ajmitch | in melbourne again? | 03:20 |
white | yes | 03:20 |
white | i just try to catch up with my backlog, it is horrible :( | 03:20 |
ajmitch | heh | 03:20 |
ajmitch | weeks of mail? | 03:20 |
white | 1,5 weeks of vacations and 3 days of relocating | 03:21 |
ajmitch | ah | 03:21 |
white | does somebody want to check this? | 03:21 |
white | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktechlab/+bug/55559 | 03:21 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 55559 in ktechlab "PIC Component not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 03:21 |
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white | ajmitch: bah i hope the flames are stopping, otherwise i will refuse reading the mails there | 03:22 |
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ajmitch | I skip most of them :) | 03:22 |
white | i guess the bug should be fixed in debian with last gpsim package | 03:22 |
ajmitch | it's coming up to DPL election time, which is always a fun time of year | 03:22 |
white | ajmitch: where abouts are you? | 03:23 |
ajmitch | dunedin, NZ | 03:23 |
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white | i would love to catch up with some people and discuss DPL election by a beer | 03:23 |
ajmitch | I would love to come back over to melbourne again | 03:23 |
white | Fujitsu: the user asked me if the status of ktechlab can be changed in edgy | 03:24 |
Fujitsu | `status' of it? | 03:24 |
TheMuso | Ok. What packages have one advocate on revu, that need another that look like they can be uploaded? | 03:24 |
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TheMuso | I'm in and out, but would like to help. | 03:24 |
TheMuso | So I can't give heaps of time to reviewing atm | 03:24 |
white | Fujitsu: well if the thing can be fixed | 03:25 |
white | like a backport or so | 03:25 |
Fujitsu | OK. | 03:25 |
Fujitsu | I'll look at it and see if a SRU can be organised. | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: a backport will get through quicker | 03:26 |
Fujitsu | True. | 03:26 |
white | so can i just write him back that you are taking care of it and cc'ing you? | 03:26 |
Fujitsu | And it's not a grave functionality issue. | 03:26 |
Fujitsu | So a backport it should be. | 03:26 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: feisty will be released before most of the SRU's being placed in the next few weeks will be done. | 03:26 |
Fujitsu | white: Yep. | 03:26 |
white | well later on i can see if it is also a debian issue, but afaik i fixed it | 03:26 |
Fujitsu | It is fixed, I believe. | 03:26 |
Hobbsee | s/done/finished/ | 03:26 |
white | Fujitsu: what was your mail again? | 03:27 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee: How do I request a backport? | 03:27 |
Fujitsu | william.grant@ubuntu.org.au will do. | 03:27 |
white | ta | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: file a bug, subscribe ubuntu-backporters | 03:27 |
Fujitsu | OK, thanks Hobbsee. | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | i think you're supposed to file a build log sa well, but i havent been | 03:27 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Isn't the bug meant to be filed on a special product? | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: not sure. i didnt think so | 03:29 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: i thought it was under the source package you wanted to backport | 03:29 |
Hobbsee | but it may have changed now, i havent checked the documentation in months | 03:29 |
white | ajmitch: bah -private is on place 3 (just after -boot, -mia and some other stuff) | 03:30 |
ScottK | TheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4333 is looking for a second advocate, since you ask... | 03:30 |
ajmitch | white: delete all | 03:31 |
TheMuso | ScottK: I am currently looking at logitech-applet. | 03:32 |
ScottK | TheMuso: OK. If you have time for another... | 03:32 |
white | is there an ubuntu-private btw? | 03:32 |
TheMuso | ScottK: I'll keep that in mind. | 03:32 |
white | i am wondering if there is the same amount of flames if it exists | 03:32 |
Hobbsee | white: not to my knowledge. | 03:35 |
Fujitsu | white: Unfortunately, it won't backport. It seems to need a newer gpsim :( | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | white: there's a tech board private list, but that's only 4 people on it, iirc | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | everything else is public | 03:35 |
Fujitsu | What is -private? Only DDs? | 03:35 |
sistpoty | maybe they flame on tb-private? *g* | 03:35 |
white | Fujitsu: yes debian-private is a list for DDs only (and most of the stuff is quite useless) | 03:36 |
ajmitch | s/most/all/ | 03:36 |
white | some DDs even unsubscribe | 03:36 |
Fujitsu | There's warthogs (Canonical only), maybe the flaming is there :P | 03:36 |
ajmitch | I think quite a few unsubscribe from there | 03:37 |
ajmitch | Fujitsu: probably talking about those MOTUs.. | 03:37 |
sistpoty | hrhr | 03:37 |
TheMuso | ScottK: I am now going to have a look at that URL. | 03:37 |
ajmitch | hey sistpoty :) | 03:37 |
sistpoty | hi ajmitch | 03:37 |
ScottK | TheMuso: Thanks. | 03:37 |
white | Fujitsu: ah i got a mail about the bashism with a patch, great i will update the package later on and thatn you can sync from experimental if you want | 03:39 |
Fujitsu | Ah, good. I told him to file a bug about it, rather than mail you directly. | 03:39 |
white | yeah most of the ubuntu users fear the BTS :( | 03:41 |
Fujitsu | I only learnt how to use it properly when I took over soundconverter a few months ago. | 03:41 |
white | probably because some stupid DDs where exploding when they have read "Ubuntu system" | 03:41 |
white | Fujitsu: don't tell anybody, but sometimes i am even looking things up about tags and stuff ;) | 03:42 |
sistpoty | bts is imo easier than lp email interface | 03:43 |
Fujitsu | I find LP's email interface to be nice to use, except for the missing features. | 03:43 |
white | Fujitsu: do you want to debug another 915resolution problem i just got reported from an ubuntu user? | 03:44 |
Hobbsee | white: what problem was that? | 03:44 |
Hobbsee | heh, just another reason not to use the BTS :P | 03:44 |
TheMuso | ScottK: Just doing a pbuilder run now. | 03:44 |
ScottK | Great. | 03:45 |
Fujitsu | white: I'm about to leave, but I can look when I get back in about 3 hours. | 03:45 |
white | Hobbsee: what's your mail, I will just forward it as I need some more hours to finish my backlog :) | 03:45 |
Hobbsee | white: hobbsee@ubuntu.com / hobbsee@kubuntu.org - either work | 03:46 |
white | great | 03:46 |
Hobbsee | white: usually they're just launchpadname@ubuntu.com | 03:46 |
Hobbsee | for all the members | 03:46 |
Hobbsee | if that helps | 03:46 |
white | ah ok | 03:46 |
white | well bounced :) | 03:46 |
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white | i somehow have the feeling that my mail backlog is not becoming less ... | 03:48 |
Hobbsee | white: bah. afraid i dont know anything at all about that. my 915resolution on this system "just works", and i didnt have to use it on my old laptop | 03:49 |
white | well i do not even have any hardware here where i can test it with | 03:50 |
white | i normally get some reports from a friend who is using it | 03:50 |
white | i debianized the package when we needed it at company | 03:50 |
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white | ha now we are even forced to vote our leader, otherwise we might loose our accounts ... rotfl | 03:56 |
bddebian | heh | 03:57 |
ajmitch | white: hm? | 03:57 |
white | ajmitch: Ganneff's DAM mail on -devel-announce :) | 03:58 |
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ajmitch | oh fun | 04:00 |
=== ajmitch wonders how many flames that will invite | ||
white | i don't wanna know | 04:02 |
ajmitch | see that sven luther is running for dpl? :) | 04:03 |
white | 200 mails about work on debian-edu <- do they want to kill me? | 04:05 |
ajmitch | yep | 04:05 |
TheMuso | ScottK: has anybody else looked at the package since I was? | 04:10 |
ScottK | No | 04:11 |
ScottK | Not that I know of | 04:11 |
TheMuso | ok | 04:11 |
ScottK | Did it build OK? | 04:11 |
TheMuso | Yeah just a sec. | 04:13 |
ScottK | Cool. | 04:13 |
TheMuso | ScottK: Ok, looks good. | 04:16 |
ScottK | Great. | 04:16 |
ScottK | That's pretty cool. 9 hours 16 minutes from first upload to 2 advocates. This is definitely a sprint. Thanks TheMuso, bddebian, and Adri2000. | 04:18 |
TheMuso | ScottK: Welcome. | 04:18 |
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TheMuso | Hobbsee: My sympathies. | 04:21 |
TheMuso | Have fun. | 04:21 |
white | ajmitch: rotfl, it is such a shame that -private is not public, we could ask people to pay money for it like a circus | 04:21 |
ajmitch | haha | 04:22 |
white | i am pretty sure that debian would become rich | 04:23 |
ajmitch | there will be some amusing historical threads in there | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: ugh, yeah, i will ;P | 04:24 |
white | well i am just skipping most of the mails now, but there were some funny ones :) | 04:24 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: hopefully the Men With Shackles wont call again tonight. | 04:24 |
TheMuso | haha | 04:24 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: oh, and hopefully we wont have to call the Men With Shackles In Training, aka SECURITY, to escort people out of the store. | 04:26 |
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sistpoty | gn8 everyone | 04:26 |
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rmjb | Hey guys | 04:33 |
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TheMuso | Whats the command to send messages via net send to windows machines from Linux? | 04:48 |
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lastnode | Fujitsu, ping mate | 05:02 |
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Nafallo | ehrm | 05:21 |
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Nafallo | who handles UVF-Reqs? | 05:23 |
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Laser_away | Nafallo: motu-uvf | 05:29 |
Nafallo | Laser_away: thanks | 05:30 |
Laser_away | Nafallo: see my email to ubuntu-motu | 05:31 |
Nafallo | I'm to tired to figure even that out myself ;-) | 05:31 |
Nafallo | I'm hundreds of mails backlogged there. | 05:31 |
Nafallo | I should try to get a GFE for gajim or something | 05:32 |
Nafallo | they always release bugfix-releases after UUVF | 05:33 |
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ajmitch | Nafallo: *everyone* releases after UVF | 05:43 |
ajmitch | it's a fact of life | 05:43 |
ajmitch | hm | 05:44 |
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ajmitch | how useful | 05:44 |
Nafallo | ajmitch: well, gajim seldom releases, but this cycle and the last one have both had bugfixes after UUVF. | 05:44 |
Laser_away | etch isn't out yet is it? | 05:45 |
joejaxx | Laser_away: i do not think so | 05:45 |
ajmitch | of course not | 05:45 |
Laser_away | so Debian releases after UVF ;-) | 05:45 |
ajmitch | but we didn't know that when setting the release schedule | 05:45 |
white | hurray, mail backlog more or less done (with marking heaps of mails as read withouth reading :( ) | 05:46 |
ajmitch | well done | 05:46 |
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white | haeh did i miss anything, wasn't it "http_proxy=http://$username:$pw@$host:$port" ? | 06:46 |
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AnAnt | bddebian: hello, thanks for reviewing tss, it was a wrong upload actually | 06:56 |
bddebian | AnAnt: NP | 07:00 |
zakame | afternoon all | 07:01 |
Fujitsu | Hi zakame. | 07:01 |
bddebian | Heya zakame | 07:01 |
zakame | hi Fujitsu bddebian | 07:02 |
zakame | ooh revu sprint | 07:02 |
bddebian | Gnight gang | 07:06 |
zakame | gn8 bddebian :) | 07:07 |
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imbrandon | Laser_away, most likely , there is no date yet for etch, it was dec 4 06 right ? | 08:11 |
imbrandon | heya ajmitch and Fujitsu | 08:11 |
ajmitch | hi imbrandon | 08:12 |
Fujitsu | Hi imbrandon. | 08:12 |
imbrandon | geser | 08:17 |
imbrandon | nltest /dsgetdc:GSI | 08:17 |
imbrandon | ugh | 08:17 |
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dholbach | good morning | 08:20 |
imbrandon | moins dholbach | 08:21 |
dholbach | hey imbrandon | 08:21 |
TheMuso | Hey dholbach. | 08:23 |
TheMuso | Not often we see you round here on the weekend. | 08:23 |
imbrandon | hehe | 08:23 |
imbrandon | no djing for dholbach tonight | 08:23 |
dholbach | it's 08:23 in the morning :) | 08:23 |
imbrandon | ahh right ;) | 08:24 |
dholbach | but i'll see Marcus Intalex (drum'n'bass dj and producer tonight) | 08:24 |
imbrandon | :) | 08:24 |
TheMuso | dholbach: cool. | 08:24 |
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ludomatic | hi | 09:12 |
ludomatic | I have a question about building .deb, is it the right place? | 09:12 |
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ludomatic | I try to build a deb package from a source without "configure" nor "make install" | 09:15 |
ludomatic | jaust have a $ make | 09:16 |
ludomatic | all "auto" tools I've tried failed | 09:16 |
ludomatic | to build a package | 09:16 |
ludomatic | any idea? I would like to keep original sources as-is | 09:17 |
ludomatic | is it possible to "override" th e makefile ? | 09:17 |
ludomatic | I've built a .deb with a script, tested with lintian, all is ok but I only have a "binary" package | 09:18 |
ludomatic | I'd like to make a clean deb and deb-src | 09:19 |
ludomatic | http://apt.ludomatic.fr | 09:19 |
TheMuso | !packagingguide | 09:20 |
ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 09:20 |
ludomatic | k, ty. | 09:22 |
TheMuso | You're welcome. | 09:23 |
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jenda | Hey there. | 09:46 |
jenda | Who is in charge of the contents of the Examples directory for Feisty? | 09:46 |
tsmithe | maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel ? | 09:50 |
tsmithe | as well... | 09:50 |
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TheMuso | What examples directory? | 09:55 |
TheMuso | Ah the example content? | 09:55 |
TheMuso | I'd suggest looking at the maintainer of the package. :) | 09:55 |
jenda | ah :) | 09:59 |
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tsmithe | jenda is a noob | 10:02 |
tsmithe | (although so am i...) | 10:02 |
=== coNP too :) | ||
jenda | TheMuso: thankee | 10:04 |
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TheMuso | dholbach: Do you know why I was also sent a message re the latest GNOME Orca upload? I haven't received any previously. | 11:01 |
dholbach | TheMuso: you should have - you're in the maintainer field | 11:02 |
TheMuso | dholbach: Not previously I haven't. | 11:02 |
dholbach | that's really weird | 11:02 |
dholbach | i get them all the time somebody touches 'my packages' | 11:02 |
TheMuso | dholbach: Yeah tis. | 11:02 |
dholbach | that's the only explanation i have | 11:03 |
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TheMuso | ok | 11:03 |
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nedko | TheMuso: is there any progress with fpconst? | 11:08 |
TheMuso | nedko: No not as far as I know. | 11:09 |
TheMuso | And unfortunately, I don't we can do anything about it at the moment. | 11:09 |
TheMuso | I really should follow up on the discussion that started, but seemed to die. | 11:09 |
nedko | :( | 11:10 |
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Hobbsee | white: did you know fenio@debian.org, by any chance? | 12:25 |
Hobbsee | Bartosz Fenski, apparently | 12:25 |
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webben | Why can spidermonkey (libmozjs-dev libnspr4-dev libsmjs-dev) not be installed alongside firefox evolution epiphany? | 12:28 |
white | Hobbsee: nope sorry, why? | 12:30 |
Hobbsee | white: htop is two releases behind in debian (and ubuntu) | 12:31 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee: How long is that in time? | 12:31 |
white | hold on i check if he is mia | 12:31 |
Fujitsu | white: That's what I was thinking :) | 12:31 |
TheMuso | 6/c | 12:31 |
Fujitsu | Is -mia public? | 12:31 |
TheMuso | bah | 12:32 |
Hobbsee | Latest 0.6.5 Notes (2006-11-29 10:48) | 12:32 |
Hobbsee | htop-0.6.5.tar.gz Mirror 134628 1857 Platform-Independent Source .gz | 12:32 |
Hobbsee | 0.6.4 Notes (2006-10-04 09:47) | 12:32 |
Hobbsee | htop-0.6.4.tar.gz Mirror 133802 1189 Platform-Independent Source .gz | 12:32 |
Hobbsee | 0.6.3 Notes (2006-07-23 15:58) | 12:32 |
TheMuso | Evening all. :0 | 12:32 |
Hobbsee | hey TheMuso! | 12:32 |
white | you can get read access as non-DD if you ask myon and want to contribute | 12:32 |
white | as a DD it is on merkel | 12:32 |
TheMuso | We all reviewing? | 12:32 |
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Hobbsee | TheMuso: you are, yes :) | 12:32 |
Fujitsu | Hobbsee: So 6 months? | 12:32 |
TheMuso | Hobbsee: Yep. | 12:32 |
Hobbsee | Fujitsu: ah, yep | 12:33 |
white | Hobbsee: nah he closed a bug at the 30th of jan | 12:33 |
white | at least this was his last gpg activity, so not mia afaik | 12:33 |
Hobbsee | white: right | 12:33 |
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white | Hobbsee: go go go | 12:33 |
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TheMuso | Hobbsee: Its really easy. | 12:33 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 12:33 |
white | Hobbsee: use reportbug, that is the best | 12:33 |
white | oh damn something is really going wrong here | 12:34 |
Fujitsu | white: What's going wrong? | 12:34 |
Fujitsu | (and thanks for fixing that bashism, I'll upload it to Ubuntu tonight some time) | 12:34 |
Hobbsee | okay | 12:34 |
TheMuso | Bah! Why is it that my revu comments on the ml are formatted alright, but on revu itself its screwed? | 12:34 |
white | i am setting like http_proxy="http://sjoeris:$pw@stproxy.latrobe.edu.au:8080" | 12:34 |
Fujitsu | That should work fine, I use it at school. | 12:35 |
Fujitsu | What's it (not) doing? | 12:35 |
white | and i always get Error parsing proxy URL http://sjoeris:$pw@stproxy.latrobe.edu.au:8080: Bad port number. | 12:35 |
Fujitsu | No silly characters in your password? | 12:35 |
white | either i am too stupid or it is this damn ISA proxy | 12:35 |
Hobbsee | gah. gotta remember ubuntu's smtp server... | 12:35 |
white | Fujitsu: yes there are | 12:35 |
StevenK | Hobbsee: fiordland.u.c | 12:35 |
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TheMuso | Hey StevenK. | 12:36 |
stgraber | white : do you have : ',",<,> or : in your password ? | 12:36 |
Fujitsu | white: Make sure they're escaped and stuff. | 12:36 |
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Fujitsu | Hi StevenK. | 12:36 |
white | let's see | 12:36 |
Hobbsee | StevenK: thanks. forgot how to spell it | 12:36 |
stgraber | that caused me some problem with my school's proxy server | 12:36 |
Hobbsee | SMTP send failure: (-2, 'Name or service not known') | 12:38 |
StevenK | Hobbsee: fiordland.ubuntu.com works for me. | 12:40 |
Hobbsee | oh, i put smtp. in front of it. silly me | 12:40 |
StevenK | Heh | 12:40 |
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Hobbsee | right, now, how do i resend this bug, with the correct smtp server? | 12:41 |
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Hobbsee | white: ^? | 12:42 |
white | well the thing should be somewhere in /tmp/ | 12:42 |
white | just copy n paste | 12:42 |
white | maybe there is also a reportbug option, not sure | 12:42 |
Hobbsee | copy and paste into an email to submit@bugs.debian.org or something? | 12:43 |
white | well if you want to fill a bug against an existing package you start reportbug with: | 12:44 |
white | reportbug $package | 12:44 |
Hobbsee | eep, this is weird. | 12:44 |
Hobbsee | it's sending to the ubuntu tracker, nto the debian one? | 12:45 |
white | aeh yes i guess the ubuntu one is patched | 12:45 |
StevenK | Right | 12:45 |
white | hehe :) | 12:45 |
Hobbsee | meh. drat | 12:45 |
StevenK | reportbug -B debian ... | 12:46 |
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grazie | could someone recommend a good link for building a package with debug and the tools used to trace? | 12:53 |
coNP | grazie: sg. like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash? | 12:56 |
grazie | coNP: Thanks. yes, I've seen that...it gives useful info on tracing crashes | 12:59 |
grazie | coNP: what I want to do is build a package with debug and use tools like gdb and anjuta to step through the code | 01:00 |
coNP | grazie: in the second part it is written there how to compile & install a package with debug symbols enabled | 01:01 |
coNP | grazie: if done, you can do whatever you want with that (gdb, ddd, anjuta...) | 01:01 |
grazie | coNP: great thanks...I mustn't have read it thoroughly :) | 01:04 |
white | Hobbsee: did you get around it? | 01:06 |
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Hobbsee | white: sort of. i just got rejected, as i didnt format the mail correctly. | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | white: i've just resubmitted | 01:08 |
white | :) | 01:10 |
white | they were just like "sender=Hobbsee" -> auto reject ;) | 01:10 |
Hobbsee | white: no, you mean "sender=*@ubuntu.com -> auto reject" :) | 01:12 |
white | :) | 01:12 |
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imbrandon | hum no more /etc/init.d/ntpdate ? | 01:18 |
imbrandon | anyone know why? | 01:18 |
imbrandon | StevenK, ^^ ( likely canidate to know ) | 01:18 |
TheMuso | imbrandon: I remember seeing a script for it under /etc/network somewhere. | 01:19 |
imbrandon | ( and yes ntpdate is installed ) | 01:19 |
TheMuso | previously at least | 01:19 |
imbrandon | hum it should be a daemon though | 01:19 |
imbrandon | unless it got split out | 01:19 |
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imbrandon | hrm dosent look like it | 01:19 |
white | imbrandon: in debian it got split afaik | 01:21 |
white | and they have the ntpdate-debian | 01:21 |
white | script which is like calling ntpdate | 01:21 |
white | not quite sure about ubuntu though | 01:21 |
imbrandon | theaccount@kgsinoclin01:~$ apt-cache search ntpdate | 01:21 |
imbrandon | ntp-doc - Network Time Protocol: documentation | 01:21 |
imbrandon | ntpdate - The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers | 01:21 |
imbrandon | hum de hum | 01:21 |
imbrandon | looks like no init.d/ntpdate in our package ( but i can call it manualy ) | 01:22 |
imbrandon | wasernt like that in breezy , wow | 01:22 |
Fujitsu | white: Do you want me to replace the Maintainer field when I merge 915resolution, as is being done with most? | 01:29 |
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white | i don't mind | 01:34 |
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Adri2000 | TheMuso: you forgot to archive pyyaml on revu | 01:40 |
TheMuso | Adri2000: I'll take care of it if you haven't. :0 | 01:40 |
TheMuso | Not hard to forget. | 01:41 |
Adri2000 | I haven't | 01:41 |
TheMuso | np I just did it then. | 01:41 |
Adri2000 | ok | 01:41 |
TheMuso | thanks for the heads up btw. | 01:42 |
TheMuso | I had several things happening at once there, so twas easy tooverlook it. | 01:42 |
TheMuso | ooo found something I think would be very useful eventually. | 01:43 |
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TheMuso | review it | 01:44 |
TheMuso | or maybe not | 01:45 |
TheMuso | no updates since comments were left. | 01:45 |
Fujitsu | Which package? | 01:45 |
TheMuso | gnome-hotswap-aplet | 01:45 |
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Hobbsee | white: yay! | 01:49 |
white | ? | 01:49 |
Hobbsee | white: got a confirmation @ the debian bugtracker | 01:49 |
TheMuso | Wow. | 01:50 |
TheMuso | So many revu packages that haven't seen updates on them after comments are left, and have been left for a while. | 01:51 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: yes. unfortunately :( | 01:51 |
Hobbsee | TheMuso: seems that people think that if they put their stuff there, it will automatically get into ubuntu | 01:51 |
TheMuso | or they find what is being asked of them is too difficult. | 01:52 |
Hobbsee | that being said, they dont actually get notified of any comments - perhaps siretart could fix this in revu2 or somethign? | 01:52 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 01:52 |
TheMuso | Hobbsee: That would be a good idea. | 01:52 |
Fujitsu | That will hopefully be improved once this is done through LP. | 01:52 |
TheMuso | Fujitsu: What are the plans for lp/REVU? | 01:52 |
Fujitsu | Ask LaserJock, he knows more about it... | 01:53 |
Fujitsu | Basically, the package will be developed in bzr on LP, and reviewed on there, using a mechanism that is yet to be implemented. | 01:53 |
TheMuso | Right. | 01:53 |
TheMuso | But should new devs have to learn about bzr as well as packaing? | 01:54 |
TheMuso | Thats a bit full on IMO. | 01:54 |
Fujitsu | There's not much to learn about bzr. | 01:54 |
TheMuso | True. | 01:54 |
Fujitsu | (unless you're doing merging stuff, which isn't necessary in that situation) | 01:54 |
Fujitsu | Anyway, I need to go to bed. | 01:55 |
TheMuso | aha so do I. | 01:55 |
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TheMuso | Just thought I'd find something to glance over and comment on. | 01:55 |
Fujitsu | You went to bed around this time last night, I seem to recall. | 01:55 |
Fujitsu | I'm running 30 minutes late tonight. | 01:55 |
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TheMuso | Nah I was in bed later last nigt if I recall. | 01:56 |
white | Hobbsee: great, good effort :) | 01:58 |
Hobbsee | white: :) | 01:58 |
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grazie_ | coNP: if I follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash as discussed I can't the public key. Any ideas? I've tried before without succes | 02:37 |
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coNP | grazie_: you might run debuild -uc -us to build package (without a gpg key) | 02:41 |
grazie_ | coNP: I'll try. thanks again | 02:42 |
coNP | yw, grazie_ | 02:42 |
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grazie_ | coNP: what do you do there's no package-dbgsym for the package you want? | 02:54 |
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coNP | grazie_: make one from source | 03:00 |
grazie_ | coNP: yeah, sorry being stupid :) | 03:02 |
dholbach | install pkg-create-dbgsym and run apt-get source -b <your package> | 03:03 |
grazie_ | dholbach: thanks too. I didn't know about pkg-create-dbgsym | 03:04 |
dholbach | that's what creates those packages on the buildds | 03:04 |
coNP | grazie_: np :) | 03:06 |
grazie_ | if <my package> is installed already do I need to remove before apt-get source -b <my package>? | 03:08 |
dholbach | no | 03:14 |
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talex | Hi. Can someone help me get my package accepted before the freeze? I've made 4 uploads since October, but the only comments have been about versions becoming out-of-date! Any hints on getting this in appreciated: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4206 | 03:20 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 03:25 |
white | somebody around here with some skype knowledge? | 03:25 |
lionel | hi bddebian | 03:25 |
bddebian | Hello lionel | 03:25 |
lionel | white: I am a skype user | 03:26 |
white | maybe with a proxy? | 03:26 |
white | i somehow fail to tell skype that i a behind a proxy | 03:26 |
white | i thought it would just catch the env variables like http_proxy and stuff | 03:26 |
lionel | no, I am just behind a NAT | 03:27 |
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talex | Hi bddebian. You provided some comments on my package (about needing to update some version numbers) last month. I uploaded a new version (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4206) - is there any chance of getting this in for feisty? Thanks, | 03:28 |
bddebian | white: You should be able to just as <HttpsProxy> nodes to skypes shared.xml | 03:30 |
bddebian | s/as/add/ | 03:31 |
bddebian | talex: I'll take a look | 03:32 |
talex | thanks! | 03:32 |
white | https? | 03:33 |
bddebian | And/or http | 03:33 |
white | right, because this proxy does not really support https | 03:33 |
bddebian | Everything I'm reading says it's supposed to look at existing Opera settings or your supposed to be able to set http_proxy as you say. But that was one way I found on a forum :-) | 03:34 |
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white | well i tried this <HttpsProxy> thing and it did not change anything | 03:34 |
white | and according to release notes it should even catch the konqueror settings, but i somehow doubt that :( | 03:35 |
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bddebian | talex: OK, advocated | 03:46 |
talex | Cheers! | 03:46 |
grazie_ | dholbach: & coNP : thanks... now cooking! :) | 03:47 |
coNP | grazie_: have fun :) | 03:47 |
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Adri2000 | ajmitch (and everyone): on the missing rc fixes page, some packages cannot be synced because there is a newer upstream version in debian. I guess we just backport the fix uploading an ubuntu1 version? the problem is that ubuntu version will still be < debian version, so it would be a good idea to tell to the missing rc fixes page that debian bugs #xxxx and #yyyy are fixed in ubuntu even if the version numbers don't say it, is it possible | 03:54 |
Adri2000 | ajmitch? | 03:54 |
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crimsun | Adri2000: well, we certainly could make it easier for the script to parse | 04:02 |
crimsun | ala, something along the lines of what ClosingBugsFromChangelog does | 04:02 |
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Le-Chuck_ITA | Hi all | 04:03 |
Le-Chuck_ITA | Now I know that there are members of the motuscience team here | 04:03 |
Le-Chuck_ITA | I would like an answer to the problem I raised in bug #82365 | 04:04 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 82365 in lyx "Please compile with assertion checking turned off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82365 | 04:04 |
Le-Chuck_ITA | even negative, but still a response | 04:04 |
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rmjb | Hye guys | 04:52 |
rmjb | I'm having a problem creating a dapper pbuilder | 04:53 |
rmjb | it times out downloading binutils and aborts, leaving me with a base.tgz that's 0 bytes | 04:53 |
rmjb | and it takes over an hour to do that... | 04:53 |
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ScottK | Good morning everyone - Just finished the scrollback, there was a lot there... | 05:10 |
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crimsun | rmjb: are you using a known-good mirror, say, uk.archive.ubuntu.com ? | 05:16 |
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bddebian | Damn lyx takes forever to build | 05:29 |
crimsun | why are people setting random targets? | 05:30 |
crimsun | "Nominated for Feisty by ..." | 05:30 |
crimsun | man, kill that junk | 05:30 |
enyc | crimsun: I dont know... I know sheer nominated qpsmtpd edgy and dapper fix for dapper... which was silly not-knowing-what-doing... | 05:31 |
crimsun | enyc: SRUs are different | 05:31 |
enyc | crimsun: bah i dont know who to ask to get qpsmtpd fixes tested ;-) nobody seems interested... its such a simple thing... | 05:31 |
crimsun | I'll try to bring up those chroots to test. Are there specific arch constraints? (I only have x86) | 05:32 |
enyc | crimsun: its entirely arch idnependant (all perl / shell etc.) | 05:33 |
enyc | crimsun: just a very simple fix to allew working given that /var/run is tmpfs | 05:33 |
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crimsun | enyc: right, I remember that now | 05:34 |
enyc | crimsun: 'qpsmtpd' in dapper-proposed edgy-proposed ... err can find bug #s | 05:34 |
crimsun | I'm travelling, so stable wifi is hard to come by | 05:34 |
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AnAnt | Laser_away: ping | 05:35 |
enyc | crimsun: hrrm actually i could really do with getting a wlan card that works in edgy and with all linux wifi tools blah. and works in pcmcia as well as pc-card.... on a p2 laptop and soforth... | 05:35 |
AnAnt | Laser_away: remember I told you about GPL Cver a couple of days ago ? some fella has already packaged it for Debian, it doesn't seem to have entered Ubuntu yet anyways, here's the URL : http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/gplcver | 05:35 |
enyc | crimsun: do you have any suggostions for anything i can order in a hurry ;-) that is known to work _well_ with all the linux tools ;-) | 05:35 |
crimsun | enyc: sorry, I can only vouch for the hardware in my Canonical-sponsored laptop (ipw2195abg using the ipw2200 driver) | 05:36 |
enyc | crimsun: [ok] | 05:36 |
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AnAnt | Laser_away: GPL Cver is a verilog simulator, that falls under the category of scientific apps | 05:37 |
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AnAnt | Fujitsu: ping | 05:41 |
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rmjb_ | okay it didn't work :s | 05:44 |
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rmjb_ | so are there any pbuilder tricks for it not to abandon everything it downloads when creating if it gets an error? | 05:47 |
rmjb_ | the download for me takes quite a while | 05:47 |
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geser | normally pbuilder caches all downloaded debs | 05:48 |
rmjb_ | hmm... for me (my 4th run of trying to create a dapper pbuilder) it gets a download error, aborts, leaved base.tgz at size 0 and has to do it all over again the next time | 05:50 |
rmjb_ | is there a setting I can check? | 05:50 |
geser | the cache does only happen for normal use, not for the creation | 05:51 |
rmjb_ | ah well | 05:51 |
geser | rmjb: you could try to download all the necessary debs and tell pbuilder/debootstrap to use them to build the tar.gz | 05:58 |
rmjb | I didn't know that could be done... I'll do that if this run fails | 05:58 |
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geser | I don't know how to do it but you can tell debootstrap to use a file:// location to fetch the debs | 05:59 |
geser | and pbuilder uses debootstrap to create the base.tar.gz | 06:00 |
geser | in the worst case you had to look how pbuilder does it and call debootstrap by hand | 06:00 |
rmjb | I guess... pbuilder is a script or a binary? | 06:01 |
rmjb | I'll figure *something* out | 06:03 |
geser | it's a script | 06:06 |
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tsmithe | hi. | 06:46 |
tsmithe | is anyone free for reviewage? | 06:46 |
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AnAnt | ping Fujitsu | 07:06 |
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chris^ | Hi | 07:29 |
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chris^ | will there be an FIX for the 2.6.17-11 upgrade? | 07:29 |
chris^ | it has broken my wlan :( | 07:29 |
chris^ | on over 10 machines... | 07:29 |
ScottK | chris^: This is not a good channel for that question, but it's fixed now. | 07:33 |
chris^ | ScottK: there are no new packages on security.ubuntu.com | 07:34 |
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Le-Chuck_ITA | bddebian: thank you for the upload | 07:35 |
Le-Chuck_ITA | where can I follow the process? | 07:35 |
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bddebian | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/lyx/1.4.3-2ubuntu1 | 07:36 |
Le-Chuck_ITA | ah ok, I didn't notice the -ubuntu1 | 07:37 |
ScottK | chris^: The problem was that the package was not complete. Try to install the new package linux-image-2.6.17-11-server. For more help you should go to #ubuntu or #kubuntu depending. | 07:37 |
Le-Chuck_ITA | thank you again | 07:37 |
chris^ | ScottK: server? I installed generic... 2.6.17-10 was also generic... | 07:38 |
bddebian | Le-Chuck_ITA: NP | 07:38 |
ScottK | Oops. Generic then. I was looking on one of my servers. | 07:39 |
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Le-Chuck_ITA | bye all | 07:59 |
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rmjb | bye Le-Chuck_ITA | 07:59 |
jekil | hi | 07:59 |
rmjb | hey jekil | 08:00 |
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rmjb_ | geser: it's still failing and the myriad of scripts that is pbuilder is tough to customise... pbuilder create can take an --http-proxy argument though, so I'm using that | 08:18 |
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tsmithe | TheMuso, could you do me a revu? | 09:02 |
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FliesLikeABrick | I'm working with the developer of Soldat, http://www.soldat.pl on a few things. He's working on a new game which will be available for free for Linux, though not open-source. 1) is it possible to have it be put in apt 2) would it go in universe, multiverse, or something else 3) how would I go about having it put in once it is done? | 09:10 |
FliesLikeABrick | http://www.crimsonengine.com is the little development page for it | 09:10 |
geser | FliesLikeABrick: if there is no source available it would need to go into multiverse if it's redistributable | 09:13 |
FliesLikeABrick | thats what I thought, thanks | 09:13 |
FliesLikeABrick | I've already got his permission to pursue putting it in once the game is released | 09:13 |
FliesLikeABrick | geser and when that time comes, how would I go about having it put in multiverse? | 09:15 |
geser | like any other package: create a package, let it review on revu and once it's good enough it be uploaded to Ubuntu and placed in multiverse | 09:18 |
FliesLikeABrick | mk, I'll do some reading | 09:18 |
FliesLikeABrick | thanks | 09:18 |
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bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 11:33 |
LaserJock | hi bddebian | 11:34 |
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TheMuso | Hey MOTUs. | 11:38 |
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bddebian | Heya TheMuso | 11:40 |
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ScottK | Hi all. | 11:50 |
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bddebian | Heya ScottK | 11:52 |
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TheMuso | bddebian: You probably uploaded before I removed my advocation for logitech-applet. :) | 12:03 |
TheMuso | never mind | 12:03 |
bddebian | Doh | 12:03 |
bddebian | What was wrong with it? | 12:04 |
TheMuso | Missing homepage at the end of the description of package. | 12:04 |
bddebian | pfft | 12:04 |
rexbron | lol... still | 12:08 |
rexbron | the archive admin could me having a bad day | 12:08 |
rexbron | be* | 12:08 |
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