[12:16] jharr: make a wrapper script setting the needed PATH as this will also work if the user sets an own PATH === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-59-76.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] crimsun: I have some questions about amixer and sound drivers if you have a moment. === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.29] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-47-188.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] who is still running edgy? [12:39] Adri2000: I have a Edgy box at work [12:39] Adri2000: I do [12:39] Linux ogre 2.6.17-10-server #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:29:32 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux [12:39] dooh [12:39] not the server [12:39] I'm on a client as well :-P [12:40] damn irssi [12:40] if you have access to an edgy desktop: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/obconf/+bug/62346 [12:40] Malone bug 62346 in obconf "[SRU] Missing libobrender.so.1 -> unable to launch obconf" [Medium,Fix committed] [12:40] it's really easy to test :) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] aha [12:49] Adri2000: already in the archive? :-) [12:49] Nafallo: yep, -propoed [12:50] proposed [12:50] *installing* [12:51] thanks! [12:51] now hope it works :p === ScottK will test it too. It's been a while since I booted into Edgy, so I have 20 packages/50mb of downloads to do first... [12:52] Adri2000: launchpad is not fast today, but adding WFM ;-) === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp15-206.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] great === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-b240-72.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] While people are testing, I think that https://launchpad.net/bugs/75017 still needs testing too. [12:55] Malone bug 75017 in kubuntu-default-settings "SRU: remove /.hidden file " [Undecided,Fix committed] [01:00] Does anybody find that if one is using usplash/framebuffer, and one is in the console, the colours are all funny? [01:01] Like the blues for directories are a dark grey etc? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] bdmurray: I'm traveling internationally this week, so catching me is going to be difficult. What questions do you have? [01:12] hi folks [01:12] anyone uploading obconf to -updates already? [01:13] bug #62346 (finally 5 acks) [01:13] Malone bug 62346 in obconf "[SRU] Missing libobrender.so.1 -> unable to launch obconf" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62346 [01:13] sistpoty: I can handle that one [01:13] crimsun: ok, thanks === jan__ [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] 5 already? [01:14] crimusn: I was curious how amixer determines what capabilities a sound card has. [01:14] Adri2000: unless I counted wrong [01:14] crimsun: I was curious how amixer determines what capabilities a sound card has. [01:14] ah yes, thanks Fujitsu [01:14] Adri2000: if Nafallo's WFM means "works for me" *g* [01:15] bdmurray: amixer doesn't determine anything of the sort. alsa-lib exposes that via alsa-driver. [01:15] crimsun, StevenK: btw. this one needs attention as well: bug #68481 [01:15] Malone bug 68481 in drbd0.7 "[SRU] change of /bin/sh to dash in edgy breaks drbd0.7-module-source build" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68481 [01:15] Adri2000: np [01:15] and siretart ^^ === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] sistpoty: is there another meaning? :-) [01:17] Nafallo: while glimpsing at the bug mail, I first read WTF ;) [01:17] sistpoty: lol [01:18] bdmurray: each audio codec enumerates that information; look in the kernel source for precisely which elements are exposable [01:18] crimsun: okay. I'm was looking at bug where the reporter does not have a 'Mic Boost' option and was curious where it did or did not come from. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] bdmurray: that's a known bug; I'll be backporting that fix next week. === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] Heya [01:19] crimsun: okay so it is independent of the driver / soundcard? [01:19] bddebian: Heya [01:19] Hi ScottK [01:20] bdmurray: the missing mic boost bug? no, it only affects HDA [01:20] bddebian: Would you please re-look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4333 - Adri2000 found a few things and I re-uploaded... [01:20] bdmurray: it's very specific to feisty and HDA codecs [01:20] hi bddebian [01:20] Heya sistpoty [01:20] bdmurray: status In Progress would be fine [01:20] crimsun: the bug I was looking at was HDA and Edgy. [01:20] ScottK: If Adri2000 found them, can't Adri2000 re-upload? :-) [01:21] bdmurray: with edgy-updates/security kernel installed? [01:21] bdmurray: if so, that's largely the base code as feisty's [01:21] crimsun: not sure I'll check. [01:23] crimsun: thanks for the help. I have also seen a couple of bugs where it looks like the reporter has a sound card and the kernel module loaded but 'asoundconf list' returns nothing. Where could I head next? === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-89-30.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] Adri2000: what's your secret that you got so much testing for your sru? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] hi LaserJock [01:32] sistpoty: he asked. [01:32] :-) [01:32] well... anyone dosemu (dapper) or xmms-sid (edgy) ? *g* [01:32] hi sistpoty [01:32] and as I said, it's easy to see if the fix works or not :) === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] bdmurray: the debuggingsoundproblems wiki page is a good start; ubuntu-audio will follow-up on those === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-145-145.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] Are we supposed to be in a REVU sprint? [01:44] bddebian: yep [01:44] is the motu-uvf team working already? === sistpoty hopes so === Adri2000 already filed an UVF exception request === geser too [01:45] :) [01:45] Jesus, REVU just keeps growing and growing... === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _ion just hopes compiz-extra gets accepted. [01:49] bddebian: this reminds me to review your libtifiles2 upload [01:50] geser: Thx man [01:50] At least someone loves me ;-P [01:52] bddebian: looking again at that unzip.c file: do you believe it's redistributable without the licence text? === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] geser: Didn't I add the license text? === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] are you talking about libtifiles2-1.0.2/src/minizip/? looks like a part of zlib1g to me [01:56] bddebian: sort of, where did you find it? [01:56] geser: It's mentioned in COPYING iirc correctly. I'll check in a sec [01:57] sistpoty: what to you think about the Info-ZIP copyright in unzip.c from that dir? [01:58] Yeah, I took the license from ZLIB, because of this: mztools.c: License: Same as ZLIB (www.gzip.org) [01:59] geser: no problem, since that very file (only a few lines changed) is in zlib1g sourcepackage [02:00] geser: with same copyright info === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] bddebian: advocated === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] geser: Wow, thx === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11214ae.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-151-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11214ae.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === white [n=white@debian/developer/white] has joined #ubuntu-motu === white waves [02:50] Hey white! Haven't seen you around in a while. [02:51] well i relocated [02:51] back in .au :) [02:51] Indeed. [02:51] nice and sunny :) [02:51] Unfortunately. === _ion enjoys a nice weather with a 27C temperature. [02:53] China was nice, -15C at times. [02:55] they went crazy here at college, we have to pay fees for every mbit [02:55] Ouch. [02:55] well great that i have another account here at uni and that i can tunnel stuff via ssh :) [02:58] holy shit, 1,5 weeks on vacations, damn i have a backlog [02:59] Heh. [03:00] <_ion> white: How much does a megabyte cost? [03:00] white: There was an issue reported here a couple of weeks back. There's a bashism in 915resolution that's causing a failure when installing on a non-Intel machine. [03:02] _ion: i guess 3 cents, not quite sure, i won't pay anyway :) [03:02] 3 cents? That's not too bad. [03:02] Fujitsu: bah, i will try to have a look when i got things settled down :) [03:03] has there been an upgrade to the ubuntu package? === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-030-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] We've got the latest Debian version, with the only change being the addition of the suspend/resume scripts. [03:03] <_ion> fujitsu: Not too bad? It's more than 20 dollars when you download an Ubuntu CD. [03:04] I guess. [03:04] ah that suspend/resume thing, i guess i have to look into it, didn't quite know what to do with it so i ignored it so far [03:05] In Debian, acpi-support has those bits, but Ubuntu's doesn't. That 915resolution change shouldn't be merged into Debian at the moment. === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] great [03:07] (or that was the status when I last checked Debian acpi-support a month or so back) [03:12] Adri2000: How goes the huge source package build? [03:12] bddebian: Thanks for the re-review. === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] quote from a user-mail : "I see you did a port of ktechlab to ubuntu feisty." [03:19] rotfl :) [03:19] Hobbsee: hi :) [03:19] white: must have been a challenging port [03:19] hey white!!! === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] ajmitch: sometimes the users know things about me i don't even know so far :) [03:20] heh [03:20] in melbourne again? [03:20] yes [03:20] i just try to catch up with my backlog, it is horrible :( [03:20] heh [03:20] weeks of mail? [03:21] 1,5 weeks of vacations and 3 days of relocating [03:21] ah [03:21] does somebody want to check this? [03:21] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktechlab/+bug/55559 [03:21] Malone bug 55559 in ktechlab "PIC Component not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === ajmitch wonders how many flames have been on debian-private this week [03:22] ajmitch: bah i hope the flames are stopping, otherwise i will refuse reading the mails there === Fujitsu checks it. [03:22] I skip most of them :) [03:22] i guess the bug should be fixed in debian with last gpsim package [03:22] it's coming up to DPL election time, which is always a fun time of year [03:23] ajmitch: where abouts are you? [03:23] dunedin, NZ === Fujitsu makes a note to add ktechlab to motuscience's package list [03:23] i would love to catch up with some people and discuss DPL election by a beer [03:23] I would love to come back over to melbourne again [03:24] Fujitsu: the user asked me if the status of ktechlab can be changed in edgy [03:24] `status' of it? [03:24] Ok. What packages have one advocate on revu, that need another that look like they can be uploaded? === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] I'm in and out, but would like to help. [03:24] So I can't give heaps of time to reviewing atm [03:25] Fujitsu: well if the thing can be fixed [03:25] like a backport or so [03:25] OK. [03:25] I'll look at it and see if a SRU can be organised. [03:26] Fujitsu: a backport will get through quicker [03:26] True. [03:26] so can i just write him back that you are taking care of it and cc'ing you? [03:26] And it's not a grave functionality issue. [03:26] So a backport it should be. [03:26] Fujitsu: feisty will be released before most of the SRU's being placed in the next few weeks will be done. [03:26] white: Yep. [03:26] well later on i can see if it is also a debian issue, but afaik i fixed it [03:26] It is fixed, I believe. [03:26] s/done/finished/ [03:27] Fujitsu: what was your mail again? [03:27] Hobbsee: How do I request a backport? [03:27] william.grant@ubuntu.org.au will do. [03:27] ta [03:27] Fujitsu: file a bug, subscribe ubuntu-backporters [03:27] OK, thanks Hobbsee. [03:27] i think you're supposed to file a build log sa well, but i havent been [03:28] Hobbsee: Isn't the bug meant to be filed on a special product? [03:29] Fujitsu: not sure. i didnt think so [03:29] Fujitsu: i thought it was under the source package you wanted to backport [03:29] but it may have changed now, i havent checked the documentation in months [03:30] ajmitch: bah -private is on place 3 (just after -boot, -mia and some other stuff) [03:30] TheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4333 is looking for a second advocate, since you ask... [03:31] white: delete all [03:32] ScottK: I am currently looking at logitech-applet. [03:32] TheMuso: OK. If you have time for another... [03:32] is there an ubuntu-private btw? [03:32] ScottK: I'll keep that in mind. [03:32] i am wondering if there is the same amount of flames if it exists [03:35] white: not to my knowledge. [03:35] white: Unfortunately, it won't backport. It seems to need a newer gpsim :( [03:35] white: there's a tech board private list, but that's only 4 people on it, iirc [03:35] everything else is public [03:35] What is -private? Only DDs? [03:35] maybe they flame on tb-private? *g* [03:36] Fujitsu: yes debian-private is a list for DDs only (and most of the stuff is quite useless) [03:36] s/most/all/ [03:36] some DDs even unsubscribe [03:36] There's warthogs (Canonical only), maybe the flaming is there :P [03:37] I think quite a few unsubscribe from there [03:37] Fujitsu: probably talking about those MOTUs.. [03:37] hrhr [03:37] ScottK: I am now going to have a look at that URL. [03:37] hey sistpoty :) [03:37] hi ajmitch [03:37] TheMuso: Thanks. [03:39] Fujitsu: ah i got a mail about the bashism with a patch, great i will update the package later on and thatn you can sync from experimental if you want [03:39] Ah, good. I told him to file a bug about it, rather than mail you directly. [03:41] yeah most of the ubuntu users fear the BTS :( [03:41] I only learnt how to use it properly when I took over soundconverter a few months ago. [03:41] probably because some stupid DDs where exploding when they have read "Ubuntu system" [03:42] Fujitsu: don't tell anybody, but sometimes i am even looking things up about tags and stuff ;) [03:43] bts is imo easier than lp email interface [03:43] I find LP's email interface to be nice to use, except for the missing features. [03:44] Fujitsu: do you want to debug another 915resolution problem i just got reported from an ubuntu user? [03:44] white: what problem was that? [03:44] heh, just another reason not to use the BTS :P [03:44] ScottK: Just doing a pbuilder run now. [03:45] Great. [03:45] white: I'm about to leave, but I can look when I get back in about 3 hours. [03:45] Hobbsee: what's your mail, I will just forward it as I need some more hours to finish my backlog :) [03:46] white: hobbsee@ubuntu.com / hobbsee@kubuntu.org - either work [03:46] great [03:46] white: usually they're just launchpadname@ubuntu.com [03:46] for all the members [03:46] if that helps [03:46] ah ok [03:46] well bounced :) === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee didnt even know 855GM's even did 1280X768 resolution [03:48] i somehow have the feeling that my mail backlog is not becoming less ... [03:49] white: bah. afraid i dont know anything at all about that. my 915resolution on this system "just works", and i didnt have to use it on my old laptop [03:50] well i do not even have any hardware here where i can test it with [03:50] i normally get some reports from a friend who is using it [03:50] i debianized the package when we needed it at company === Hobbsee wonders if that's just an X bug, as opposed to a 915resolution bug === poningru__ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] ha now we are even forced to vote our leader, otherwise we might loose our accounts ... rotfl [03:57] heh [03:57] white: hm? [03:58] ajmitch: Ganneff's DAM mail on -devel-announce :) === ajmitch goes to read === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-030-155.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] oh fun === ajmitch wonders how many flames that will invite [04:02] i don't wanna know [04:03] see that sven luther is running for dpl? :) [04:05] 200 mails about work on debian-edu <- do they want to kill me? [04:05] yep [04:10] ScottK: has anybody else looked at the package since I was? [04:11] No [04:11] Not that I know of [04:11] ok [04:11] Did it build OK? [04:13] Yeah just a sec. [04:13] Cool. [04:16] ScottK: Ok, looks good. [04:16] Great. [04:18] That's pretty cool. 9 hours 16 minutes from first upload to 2 advocates. This is definitely a sprint. Thanks TheMuso, bddebian, and Adri2000. [04:18] ScottK: Welcome. === Hobbsee goes off to rescue work from certain lack-of-staff doom again [04:21] Hobbsee: My sympathies. [04:21] Have fun. [04:21] ajmitch: rotfl, it is such a shame that -private is not public, we could ask people to pay money for it like a circus [04:22] haha [04:23] i am pretty sure that debian would become rich [04:23] there will be some amusing historical threads in there [04:24] TheMuso: ugh, yeah, i will ;P [04:24] well i am just skipping most of the mails now, but there were some funny ones :) [04:24] TheMuso: hopefully the Men With Shackles wont call again tonight. [04:24] haha [04:26] TheMuso: oh, and hopefully we wont have to call the Men With Shackles In Training, aka SECURITY, to escort people out of the store. === sistpoty is off to bed [04:26] gn8 everyone === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon12021.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] Hey guys === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@p548FCDDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Whats the command to send messages via net send to windows machines from Linux? === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@124.43.233.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] Fujitsu, ping mate === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] ehrm === Nafallo is tired [05:23] who handles UVF-Reqs? === Nafallo doubt that Gajim will release before two days ago === brainsik [n=brainsik@adsl-75-55-213-221.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] Nafallo: motu-uvf [05:30] Laser_away: thanks [05:31] Nafallo: see my email to ubuntu-motu [05:31] I'm to tired to figure even that out myself ;-) [05:31] I'm hundreds of mails backlogged there. [05:32] I should try to get a GFE for gajim or something [05:33] they always release bugfix-releases after UUVF === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso_ [n=luke@124.149.38.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] Nafallo: *everyone* releases after UVF [05:43] it's a fact of life [05:44] hm === ajmitch still had the bugs assigned to motu-uvf on his bookmarks toolbar [05:44] how useful [05:44] ajmitch: well, gajim seldom releases, but this cycle and the last one have both had bugfixes after UUVF. [05:45] etch isn't out yet is it? [05:45] Laser_away: i do not think so [05:45] of course not [05:45] so Debian releases after UVF ;-) [05:45] but we didn't know that when setting the release schedule [05:46] hurray, mail backlog more or less done (with marking heaps of mails as read withouth reading :( ) [05:46] well done === ajmitch wonders how many motu-uvf have been processed already === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-145-145.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp247-152.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru__ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.29] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] haeh did i miss anything, wasn't it "http_proxy=http://$username:$pw@$host:$port" ? === did448 [n=didier@62.210.200.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.131] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] bddebian: hello, thanks for reviewing tss, it was a wrong upload actually [07:00] AnAnt: NP [07:01] afternoon all [07:01] Hi zakame. [07:01] Heya zakame [07:02] hi Fujitsu bddebian [07:02] ooh revu sprint [07:06] Gnight gang [07:07] gn8 bddebian :) === rj__ [n=rj@cpe-24-175-250-223.gt.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-015-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.142.248.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dettoaltrimenti_ [n=dettoalt@ppp85-140-155-108.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === afflux [i=discoflu@gateway/tor/x-1330b8a6795fa1e7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] Laser_away, most likely , there is no date yet for etch, it was dec 4 06 right ? [08:11] heya ajmitch and Fujitsu [08:12] hi imbrandon [08:12] Hi imbrandon. [08:17] geser [08:17] nltest /dsgetdc:GSI [08:17] ugh === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F71A41.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] good morning [08:21] moins dholbach [08:21] hey imbrandon [08:23] Hey dholbach. [08:23] Not often we see you round here on the weekend. [08:23] hehe [08:23] no djing for dholbach tonight [08:23] it's 08:23 in the morning :) [08:24] ahh right ;) [08:24] but i'll see Marcus Intalex (drum'n'bass dj and producer tonight) [08:24] :) [08:24] dholbach: cool. === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === did448 [n=didier@62.210.200.99] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ludomatic [n=ludo@202.22.230.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] hi [09:12] I have a question about building .deb, is it the right place? === coNP [n=conp@pool-01749.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] I try to build a deb package from a source without "configure" nor "make install" [09:16] jaust have a $ make [09:16] all "auto" tools I've tried failed [09:16] to build a package [09:17] any idea? I would like to keep original sources as-is [09:17] is it possible to "override" th e makefile ? [09:18] I've built a .deb with a script, tested with lintian, all is ok but I only have a "binary" package [09:19] I'd like to make a clean deb and deb-src [09:19] http://apt.ludomatic.fr [09:20] !packagingguide [09:20] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [09:22] k, ty. [09:23] You're welcome. === DarkMageZ_ [n=richard@121.44.230.234] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-89-30.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] Hey there. [09:46] Who is in charge of the contents of the Examples directory for Feisty? [09:50] maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel ? [09:50] as well... === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] What examples directory? [09:55] Ah the example content? [09:55] I'd suggest looking at the maintainer of the package. :) [09:59] ah :) === jenda feels like a noob now :) [10:02] jenda is a noob [10:02] (although so am i...) === coNP too :) [10:04] TheMuso: thankee === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Mastermind] === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-97-141.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mlpug [n=user@a85-156-253-211.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp0-24.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-35-120.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] dholbach: Do you know why I was also sent a message re the latest GNOME Orca upload? I haven't received any previously. [11:02] TheMuso: you should have - you're in the maintainer field [11:02] dholbach: Not previously I haven't. [11:02] that's really weird [11:02] i get them all the time somebody touches 'my packages' [11:02] dholbach: Yeah tis. [11:03] that's the only explanation i have === dholbach -> dogwalk - bbl [11:03] ok === nedko [n=nedko@89.253.148.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] TheMuso: is there any progress with fpconst? [11:09] nedko: No not as far as I know. [11:09] And unfortunately, I don't we can do anything about it at the moment. [11:09] I really should follow up on the discussion that started, but seemed to die. 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[12:25] Bartosz Fenski, apparently === webben [n=benjamin@91.84.44.81] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] Why can spidermonkey (libmozjs-dev libnspr4-dev libsmjs-dev) not be installed alongside firefox evolution epiphany? [12:30] Hobbsee: nope sorry, why? [12:31] white: htop is two releases behind in debian (and ubuntu) [12:31] Hobbsee: How long is that in time? [12:31] hold on i check if he is mia [12:31] white: That's what I was thinking :) [12:31] 6/c [12:31] Is -mia public? [12:32] bah [12:32] Latest 0.6.5 Notes (2006-11-29 10:48) [12:32] htop-0.6.5.tar.gz Mirror 134628 1857 Platform-Independent Source .gz [12:32] 0.6.4 Notes (2006-10-04 09:47) [12:32] htop-0.6.4.tar.gz Mirror 133802 1189 Platform-Independent Source .gz [12:32] 0.6.3 Notes (2006-07-23 15:58) [12:32] Evening all. :0 [12:32] hey TheMuso! [12:32] you can get read access as non-DD if you ask myon and want to contribute [12:32] as a DD it is on merkel [12:32] We all reviewing? === grazie [n=grazie@86.148.201.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] TheMuso: you are, yes :) [12:32] Hobbsee: So 6 months? [12:32] Hobbsee: Yep. [12:33] Fujitsu: ah, yep [12:33] Hobbsee: nah he closed a bug at the 30th of jan [12:33] at least this was his last gpg activity, so not mia afaik [12:33] white: right === Hobbsee tries to figure out how to file a debian bug [12:33] Hobbsee: go go go === white motivates Hobbsee [12:33] Hobbsee: Its really easy. [12:33] hehe [12:33] Hobbsee: use reportbug, that is the best [12:34] oh damn something is really going wrong here [12:34] white: What's going wrong? [12:34] (and thanks for fixing that bashism, I'll upload it to Ubuntu tonight some time) [12:34] okay [12:34] Bah! Why is it that my revu comments on the ml are formatted alright, but on revu itself its screwed? [12:34] i am setting like http_proxy="http://sjoeris:$pw@stproxy.latrobe.edu.au:8080" [12:35] That should work fine, I use it at school. [12:35] What's it (not) doing? [12:35] and i always get Error parsing proxy URL http://sjoeris:$pw@stproxy.latrobe.edu.au:8080: Bad port number. [12:35] No silly characters in your password? [12:35] either i am too stupid or it is this damn ISA proxy [12:35] gah. gotta remember ubuntu's smtp server... [12:35] Fujitsu: yes there are [12:35] Hobbsee: fiordland.u.c === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] Hey StevenK. [12:36] white : do you have : ',",<,> or : in your password ? [12:36] white: Make sure they're escaped and stuff. === StevenK waves [12:36] Hi StevenK. [12:36] let's see [12:36] StevenK: thanks. forgot how to spell it [12:36] that caused me some problem with my school's proxy server [12:38] SMTP send failure: (-2, 'Name or service not known') [12:40] Hobbsee: fiordland.ubuntu.com works for me. [12:40] oh, i put smtp. in front of it. silly me [12:40] Heh === dettoaltrimenti_ [n=dettoalt@ppp85-140-155-18.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] right, now, how do i resend this bug, with the correct smtp server? === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] white: ^? [12:42] well the thing should be somewhere in /tmp/ [12:42] just copy n paste [12:42] maybe there is also a reportbug option, not sure [12:43] copy and paste into an email to submit@bugs.debian.org or something? [12:44] well if you want to fill a bug against an existing package you start reportbug with: [12:44] reportbug $package [12:44] eep, this is weird. [12:45] it's sending to the ubuntu tracker, nto the debian one? [12:45] aeh yes i guess the ubuntu one is patched [12:45] Right [12:45] hehe :) [12:45] meh. drat [12:46] reportbug -B debian ... === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp3-156.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robb_ [n=robb@pool-71-163-244-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] could someone recommend a good link for building a package with debug and the tools used to trace? [12:56] grazie: sg. like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash? [12:59] coNP: Thanks. yes, I've seen that...it gives useful info on tracing crashes [01:00] coNP: what I want to do is build a package with debug and use tools like gdb and anjuta to step through the code [01:01] grazie: in the second part it is written there how to compile & install a package with debug symbols enabled [01:01] grazie: if done, you can do whatever you want with that (gdb, ddd, anjuta...) [01:04] coNP: great thanks...I mustn't have read it thoroughly :) [01:06] Hobbsee: did you get around it? === talex [n=talex@dyn-62-56-70-38.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] white: sort of. i just got rejected, as i didnt format the mail correctly. [01:08] white: i've just resubmitted [01:10] :) [01:10] they were just like "sender=Hobbsee" -> auto reject ;) [01:12] white: no, you mean "sender=*@ubuntu.com -> auto reject" :) [01:12] :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-185.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] hum no more /etc/init.d/ntpdate ? [01:18] anyone know why? [01:18] StevenK, ^^ ( likely canidate to know ) [01:19] imbrandon: I remember seeing a script for it under /etc/network somewhere. [01:19] ( and yes ntpdate is installed ) [01:19] previously at least [01:19] hum it should be a daemon though [01:19] unless it got split out === imbrandon looks [01:19] hrm dosent look like it [01:21] imbrandon: in debian it got split afaik [01:21] and they have the ntpdate-debian [01:21] script which is like calling ntpdate [01:21] not quite sure about ubuntu though [01:21] theaccount@kgsinoclin01:~$ apt-cache search ntpdate [01:21] ntp-doc - Network Time Protocol: documentation [01:21] ntpdate - The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers [01:21] hum de hum [01:22] looks like no init.d/ntpdate in our package ( but i can call it manualy ) [01:22] wasernt like that in breezy , wow [01:29] white: Do you want me to replace the Maintainer field when I merge 915resolution, as is being done with most? === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] i don't mind === cassidy [n=cassidy@166.90-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:40] TheMuso: you forgot to archive pyyaml on revu [01:40] Adri2000: I'll take care of it if you haven't. :0 [01:41] Not hard to forget. [01:41] I haven't [01:41] np I just did it then. [01:41] ok [01:42] thanks for the heads up btw. [01:42] I had several things happening at once there, so twas easy tooverlook it. [01:43] ooo found something I think would be very useful eventually. === TheMuso goes to revu. [01:44] review it [01:45] or maybe not [01:45] no updates since comments were left. [01:45] Which package? [01:45] gnome-hotswap-aplet === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] white: yay! [01:49] ? [01:49] white: got a confirmation @ the debian bugtracker [01:50] Wow. [01:51] So many revu packages that haven't seen updates on them after comments are left, and have been left for a while. [01:51] TheMuso: yes. unfortunately :( [01:51] TheMuso: seems that people think that if they put their stuff there, it will automatically get into ubuntu [01:52] or they find what is being asked of them is too difficult. [01:52] that being said, they dont actually get notified of any comments - perhaps siretart could fix this in revu2 or somethign? [01:52] yeah [01:52] Hobbsee: That would be a good idea. [01:52] That will hopefully be improved once this is done through LP. [01:52] Fujitsu: What are the plans for lp/REVU? [01:53] Ask LaserJock, he knows more about it... [01:53] Basically, the package will be developed in bzr on LP, and reviewed on there, using a mechanism that is yet to be implemented. [01:53] Right. [01:54] But should new devs have to learn about bzr as well as packaing? [01:54] Thats a bit full on IMO. [01:54] There's not much to learn about bzr. [01:54] True. [01:54] (unless you're doing merging stuff, which isn't necessary in that situation) [01:55] Anyway, I need to go to bed. [01:55] aha so do I. === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] Just thought I'd find something to glance over and comment on. [01:55] You went to bed around this time last night, I seem to recall. [01:55] I'm running 30 minutes late tonight. === Fujitsu heads off now, lest deadness be found tomorrow. [01:56] Nah I was in bed later last nigt if I recall. [01:58] Hobbsee: great, good effort :) [01:58] white: :) === CicalaMvta [n=CicalaMv@chello080109002146.13.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ is now known as luisbg === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nedko [n=nedko@89.253.148.98] has left #ubuntu-motu ["party] === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-185.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grazie_ [n=grazie@86.148.201.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] coNP: if I follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash as discussed I can't the public key. Any ideas? I've tried before without succes === Spec[x] [n=nwheeler@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] grazie_: you might run debuild -uc -us to build package (without a gpg key) [02:42] coNP: I'll try. thanks again [02:42] yw, grazie_ === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] coNP: what do you do there's no package-dbgsym for the package you want? === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] grazie_: make one from source [03:02] coNP: yeah, sorry being stupid :) [03:03] install pkg-create-dbgsym and run apt-get source -b [03:04] dholbach: thanks too. I didn't know about pkg-create-dbgsym [03:04] that's what creates those packages on the buildds [03:06] grazie_: np :) [03:08] if is installed already do I need to remove before apt-get source -b ? [03:14] no === herzi [n=herzi@p548FCDDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] Hi. Can someone help me get my package accepted before the freeze? I've made 4 uploads since October, but the only comments have been about versions becoming out-of-date! Any hints on getting this in appreciated: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4206 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] Heya gang [03:25] somebody around here with some skype knowledge? [03:25] hi bddebian [03:25] Hello lionel [03:26] white: I am a skype user [03:26] maybe with a proxy? [03:26] i somehow fail to tell skype that i a behind a proxy [03:26] i thought it would just catch the env variables like http_proxy and stuff [03:27] no, I am just behind a NAT === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] Hi bddebian. You provided some comments on my package (about needing to update some version numbers) last month. I uploaded a new version (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4206) - is there any chance of getting this in for feisty? Thanks, [03:30] white: You should be able to just as nodes to skypes shared.xml [03:31] s/as/add/ [03:32] talex: I'll take a look [03:32] thanks! [03:33] https? [03:33] And/or http [03:33] right, because this proxy does not really support https [03:34] Everything I'm reading says it's supposed to look at existing Opera settings or your supposed to be able to set http_proxy as you say. But that was one way I found on a forum :-) === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] well i tried this thing and it did not change anything [03:35] and according to release notes it should even catch the konqueror settings, but i somehow doubt that :( === chrisj [n=tortoise@91.84.105.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] talex: OK, advocated [03:46] Cheers! [03:47] dholbach: & coNP : thanks... now cooking! :) [03:47] grazie_: have fun :) === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] ajmitch (and everyone): on the missing rc fixes page, some packages cannot be synced because there is a newer upstream version in debian. I guess we just backport the fix uploading an ubuntu1 version? the problem is that ubuntu version will still be < debian version, so it would be a good idea to tell to the missing rc fixes page that debian bugs #xxxx and #yyyy are fixed in ubuntu even if the version numbers don't say it, is it possible [03:54] ajmitch? === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] Adri2000: well, we certainly could make it easier for the script to parse [04:02] ala, something along the lines of what ClosingBugsFromChangelog does === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host246-207-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] Hi all [04:03] Now I know that there are members of the motuscience team here [04:04] I would like an answer to the problem I raised in bug #82365 [04:04] Malone bug 82365 in lyx "Please compile with assertion checking turned off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82365 [04:04] even negative, but still a response === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso_ [n=luke@dsl-58-6-44-113.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host246-207-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === talex [n=talex@dyn-62-56-70-38.dslaccess.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-185.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.47] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aanjhan_ [n=aanjhan@59.92.87.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ is now known as luisbg === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.graham.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grazie_ is now known as grazie === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon20332.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] Hye guys [04:53] I'm having a problem creating a dapper pbuilder [04:53] it times out downloading binutils and aborts, leaving me with a base.tgz that's 0 bytes [04:53] and it takes over an hour to do that... === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.28] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] Good morning everyone - Just finished the scrollback, there was a lot there... === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] rmjb: are you using a known-good mirror, say, uk.archive.ubuntu.com ? === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-200-45.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] Damn lyx takes forever to build [05:30] why are people setting random targets? [05:30] "Nominated for Feisty by ..." [05:30] man, kill that junk [05:31] crimsun: I dont know... I know sheer nominated qpsmtpd edgy and dapper fix for dapper... which was silly not-knowing-what-doing... [05:31] enyc: SRUs are different [05:31] crimsun: bah i dont know who to ask to get qpsmtpd fixes tested ;-) nobody seems interested... its such a simple thing... [05:32] I'll try to bring up those chroots to test. Are there specific arch constraints? (I only have x86) [05:33] crimsun: its entirely arch idnependant (all perl / shell etc.) [05:33] crimsun: just a very simple fix to allew working given that /var/run is tmpfs === ScottK [n=ScottK@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] enyc: right, I remember that now [05:34] crimsun: 'qpsmtpd' in dapper-proposed edgy-proposed ... err can find bug #s [05:34] I'm travelling, so stable wifi is hard to come by === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] Laser_away: ping [05:35] crimsun: hrrm actually i could really do with getting a wlan card that works in edgy and with all linux wifi tools blah. and works in pcmcia as well as pc-card.... on a p2 laptop and soforth... [05:35] Laser_away: remember I told you about GPL Cver a couple of days ago ? some fella has already packaged it for Debian, it doesn't seem to have entered Ubuntu yet anyways, here's the URL : http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/gplcver [05:35] crimsun: do you have any suggostions for anything i can order in a hurry ;-) that is known to work _well_ with all the linux tools ;-) [05:36] enyc: sorry, I can only vouch for the hardware in my Canonical-sponsored laptop (ipw2195abg using the ipw2200 driver) [05:36] crimsun: [ok] === iceman [n=iceman@212.20-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] Laser_away: GPL Cver is a verilog simulator, that falls under the category of scientific apps === jnair [n=jayesh@203.123.188.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] Fujitsu: ping === rmjb_ [n=richard@cuscon18771.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] okay it didn't work :s === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] so are there any pbuilder tricks for it not to abandon everything it downloads when creating if it gets an error? [05:47] the download for me takes quite a while === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.123] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:48] normally pbuilder caches all downloaded debs [05:50] hmm... for me (my 4th run of trying to create a dapper pbuilder) it gets a download error, aborts, leaved base.tgz at size 0 and has to do it all over again the next time [05:50] is there a setting I can check? [05:51] the cache does only happen for normal use, not for the creation [05:51] ah well [05:58] rmjb: you could try to download all the necessary debs and tell pbuilder/debootstrap to use them to build the tar.gz [05:58] I didn't know that could be done... I'll do that if this run fails === rmjb crosses fingers === kjcole [n=kjcole@158.59.225.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] I don't know how to do it but you can tell debootstrap to use a file:// location to fetch the debs [06:00] and pbuilder uses debootstrap to create the base.tar.gz [06:00] in the worst case you had to look how pbuilder does it and call debootstrap by hand [06:01] I guess... pbuilder is a script or a binary? [06:03] I'll figure *something* out [06:06] it's a script === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-148-201.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] hi. [06:46] is anyone free for reviewage? === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-102-194.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["trombone"] === Neonightmare [n=neonight@134.104.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@134.104.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@134.104.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === caravena [n=caravena@179-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:06] ping Fujitsu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.200] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Gervystar [n=alessand@host189-63-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chris^ [n=kraetzi@p548AF0C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] Hi === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] will there be an FIX for the 2.6.17-11 upgrade? [07:29] it has broken my wlan :( [07:29] on over 10 machines... [07:33] chris^: This is not a good channel for that question, but it's fixed now. [07:34] ScottK: there are no new packages on security.ubuntu.com === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host246-207-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] bddebian: thank you for the upload [07:35] where can I follow the process? === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.153.10.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/lyx/1.4.3-2ubuntu1 [07:37] ah ok, I didn't notice the -ubuntu1 [07:37] chris^: The problem was that the package was not complete. Try to install the new package linux-image-2.6.17-11-server. For more help you should go to #ubuntu or #kubuntu depending. [07:37] thank you again [07:38] ScottK: server? I installed generic... 2.6.17-10 was also generic... [07:38] Le-Chuck_ITA: NP [07:39] Oops. Generic then. I was looking on one of my servers. === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chris^ [n=kraetzi@p548AF0C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Verlassend"] === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] bye all === jekil [n=alessand@151.82.5.69] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] bye Le-Chuck_ITA [07:59] hi [08:00] hey jekil === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host246-207-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb_ [n=richard@cuscon19430.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] geser: it's still failing and the myriad of scripts that is pbuilder is tough to customise... pbuilder create can take an --http-proxy argument though, so I'm using that === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.234] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] TheMuso, could you do me a revu? === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=flieslik@cpe-72-224-116-131.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:10] I'm working with the developer of Soldat, http://www.soldat.pl on a few things. He's working on a new game which will be available for free for Linux, though not open-source. 1) is it possible to have it be put in apt 2) would it go in universe, multiverse, or something else 3) how would I go about having it put in once it is done? [09:10] http://www.crimsonengine.com is the little development page for it [09:13] FliesLikeABrick: if there is no source available it would need to go into multiverse if it's redistributable [09:13] thats what I thought, thanks [09:13] I've already got his permission to pursue putting it in once the game is released [09:15] geser and when that time comes, how would I go about having it put in multiverse? [09:18] like any other package: create a package, let it review on revu and once it's good enough it be uploaded to Ubuntu and placed in multiverse [09:18] mk, I'll do some reading [09:18] thanks === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-185.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TreMobyl [n=solarion@cruftix.physics.uiowa.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-151-45.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aSt3raL_ [n=eric@71-35-121-20.tukw.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb_ [n=richard@cuscon24361.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] Heya LaserJock [11:34] hi bddebian === muzzol [n=muzzol@62-43-71-59.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] Hey MOTUs. === DarkMageZ [n=richard@121.44.224.204] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] Heya TheMuso === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945579.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:50] Hi all. === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-46-177.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:52] Heya ScottK === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.153.10.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] bddebian: You probably uploaded before I removed my advocation for logitech-applet. :) [12:03] never mind [12:03] Doh [12:04] What was wrong with it? [12:04] Missing homepage at the end of the description of package. [12:04] pfft [12:08] lol... still [12:08] the archive admin could me having a bad day [12:08] be*