[12:01] <FunnyMan3595> Linkmasta23: Though it might work with > instead of |, that's the /msg version.
[12:01] <bruenig> ubout, tell Linkmasta23 about language
[12:01] <bruenig> ubotu, tell Linkmasta23 about language
[12:01] <francois> hi, does anyone know how to downgrade a package easily ?
[12:02] <Linkmasta23> lol
[12:02] <bruenig> francois, apt-get remove it, and then find the older one and dpkg -i it
[12:02] <unop> francois,  sudo aptitude install package=2.1.0  .. where 2.1.o is the downgrade's version
[12:02] <Linkmasta23> ubotu, tell bruenig about language
[12:02] <snowghost> salut
[12:03] <unop> !hi | snowghost
[12:03] <ubotu> snowghost: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:03] <bruenig> !fr | snowghost
[12:03] <ubotu> snowghost: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:03] <crusoe> unop: http://pastebin.ca/348122
[12:03] <cypherdelic_> how to invert xterm? anybody knows please.
[12:03] <unop> cypherdelic_,  invert xterm?
[12:03] <snowghost> invert?
[12:03] <lordkeiden> i have been told by many people on these forums that linux won't swap to the hard drive unless it runs out of ram. y do i show 100MB free ram, and 174MB of swap in use?
[12:03] <sleepster> I am looking at the ubuntu site, and it says it supports power PC processors MAC.... would this work normally on my MAC? or do I have to do anything special to get it to run
[12:03] <cafuego_> xterm -fg while -bg black; xterm -fg black -bg white
[12:04] <funkyHat> I'm trying to get my console resolution to 1280x800... anyone managed it?
[12:04] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: Many people on these forums are - excuse the phrase - full of shit.
[12:04] <tuskernini> !xvidcapture
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcapture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <FunnyMan3595> cypherdelic_: That should be white, not whiile
[12:04] <Linkmasta23> !bunny
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bunny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <francois> unop: it says it can't find the version, but i'm typing in the correct version,
[12:04] <Linkmasta23> !hotcrossbuns
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotcrossbuns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <PriceChild> !ohmy | cafuego_
[12:04] <ubotu> cafuego_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:05] <PriceChild> !botabuse | Linkmasta23
[12:05] <ubotu> Linkmasta23: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:05] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: linux will use swap intelligently. If an application is idle for a few hours, Linux will move that app into swap space and use the freed ram as disk cache for other applications.
[12:05] <GionnyBoss> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Edgy on an old computer... but it's all very slow and I can't do anything. Is there a way to install it without graphical interface?
[12:05] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, the server edition
[12:05] <morrolan> GionnyBoss - yes, use the alternate install CD, available from the website
[12:05] <cypherdelic_> how to invert xterm? anybody knows please.
[12:06] <lordkeiden> cafuego_: lol...i am seeing that....so where is a good resource to learn about how linux manages ram? and maybe bow to get it to use more ram and less swap?
[12:06] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: That disk cache will be written to disk when it can do so without affecting performance... but by keeping it accessible in swap *anyway* access will be faster, should it need the files again.
[12:06] <GionnyBoss> but with the normal CD, how can I do to make installation faster? I mean... I don't know why it is so slow... it's a pentium 3 800 MHz, it shouldn't be so slow
[12:06] <gumpish> Is there any reason NOT to use the AMD64 release of Dapper if you have a 64 bit CPU?
[12:06] <unop> crusoe,  yes, your sources.list does not have the edgy repos in -- i've modified your sources.list to include them -- http://pastebin.ca/348125  -- change sources.list to reflect that -- gksudo sh -c "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:06] <cafuego_> gumpish: video/java/flash
[12:06] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, how slow is slow. It took me about 30 min or so
[12:06] <gumpish> :o
[12:06] <jinho> hi
[12:07] <francois> arg
[12:07] <bruenig> !hi | jinho
[12:07] <ubotu> jinho: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:07] <sleepster> Has anyone run Ubuntu on a MAC
[12:07] <jinho> how can I tell which version of ubuntu I have (if i have dapper or edgy for instance)
[12:07] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, 30 min just to start up? before installing? I can't click on install icon, it's very slow!
[12:07] <unop> francois,  what does apt-cache policy package name return to you?
[12:07] <bruenig> !versoin | jinho
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about versoin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <bruenig> !version | jinho
[12:07] <ubotu> jinho: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:07] <Madpilot> jinho, System->About Ubuntu
[12:07] <unop> francois,  to install the required version apt-cache must be aware of it
[12:07] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: You don't want it to not use that swap. Using it means your machine is *faster* than it would be without it.
[12:07] <jinho> thanks
[12:07] <bruenig> !thanks | jinho
[12:08] <ubotu> jinho: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:08] <gumpish> So then let me ask the next logical question - is there any reason TO run the AMD64 release of Dapper? I dont' expect I need a 64 bit OS for anything I'm doing...
[12:08] <spider> end
[12:08] <bruenig> gumpish, no
[12:08] <francois> unop: oh most excellent ! kudos to you, thanks a lot
[12:08] <gumpish> ok then. thanks!
[12:08] <unop> francois,  so, does the version exist or not?
[12:08] <TurtleBoots> !nvidia
[12:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, I don't know why it needs ages of time just to start up... I installed Ubuntu on other computer and it was faster... any suggestions please?
[12:09] <compman>   ?
[12:09] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, oh you are talking about startup, I thought you were talking about the install itself after you get to the desktop
[12:09] <bruenig> !english
[12:09] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:09] <ziadoz> whats the difference between a logical and primary partition?
[12:09] <francois> unop: not the one i wanted, but an old one that worked, so i'll just apt-get that one, even though its multiple versions behind, do I just sudo apt-get install name=version ?
[12:09] <bruenig> ziadoz, as far as linux is concerned, nothing really
[12:09] <GionnyBoss> bruenig, yeah.. I tryed to change CD ROM drive with a faster one I have at home... but it didn't solve the problem... it's still very slow
[12:10] <ziadoz> bruenig, so im setting up dual boot ubuntu and xp
[12:10] <lordkeiden> cafuego_: i don't mind swap, but 100MB seems to ba a fair chunk of ram just hanging out there....i'm thinking that the more in ram, the faster it is, as long as it can manage it well. Keep in mind too that My knowledge of memory management is from windows 2000 mainly...
[12:10] <ziadoz> and its asking me what to put ubuntu as, should i choose primary or logical?
[12:10] <bruenig> ziadoz, how many partitions do you have?
[12:10] <unop> ziadoz,  those are terms used in DOS partition tables -- a maximum of 4 primary partitions can exist on one hard disk -- if you require more than 4 partitions, an extended partition must be created to house other sub-partitions
[12:10] <ziadoz> the disk currently has 2 partitions
[12:11] <ziadoz> but im removing one of them
[12:11] <bruenig> ziadoz, just go with primary
[12:11] <shmulik> Ubuntu's device manager says that my video card is an Intel 945GM, but in my xorg.conf says "	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card""
[12:11] <Steve^> Hey, is either nvidia/ati more supported for linux?
[12:11] <bruenig> ziadoz, so long as you don't go over four primary will do
[12:11] <bruenig> four, primary
[12:11] <ziadoz> ok thanks guys
[12:11] <sycho> Steve^ mostly nvidia if I'm correct
[12:11] <Steve^> Ok, that's what I had thought, but I wondered if it had changed
[12:11] <arn_> hi, where can i get my font folder?
[12:12] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: have a read of this thread: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[12:12] <crusoe> unop: is there a quick way to delete all the text in xterm and copy in your modified version?
[12:12] <lasttime> hi.
[12:12] <Steve^> for instance, my friend says his x1600 works perfectly
[12:12] <Steve^> *x1800
[12:12] <crusoe> unop: sry, sources.list
[12:12] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: it's not quite so straightforward as having as much as possible in actual ram.
[12:12] <unop> lordkeiden,  it's safe to have some swap =- the kernel only ever uses swap if it needs to .. and when it does, it tries to make sure it doesnt impose a performance penalty (although in some cases, it just cant be helped)
[12:12] <RasQulec> Steve^: nvidia is generaly regarded as better supported
[12:12] <RasQulec> Steve^: I have a 7800gt I game on daily
[12:13] <bruenig> crusoe, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <unop> crusoe, why dont you use gedit? .. gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <sycho> Steve^, No, I just did some reading on it as I just upgraded to feisty. The ati drivers are not working 100%. But this is do to lack of support of ATI then it is of feisty.
[12:13] <sleepy723> What's a really good IRC client for Ubuntu/Kubuntu..etc?
[12:13] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: Specifically, the bit further down by David Schwartz
[12:13] <bruenig> sleepy723, xchat
[12:13] <Steve^> game on daily? with linux?
[12:13] <morrolan> sleepy723 - irssi!
[12:13] <RasQulec> Steve^: yes
[12:13] <bruenig> irssi ha
[12:14] <francois> irssi
[12:14] <morrolan> I'm using irssi
[12:14] <bruenig> bitchx
[12:14] <cafuego_> lordkeiden: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html
[12:14] <TurtleBoots> hi girls!
[12:14] <GionnyBoss> is there an Ubuntu installation guide somewhere I can follow to install it in text mode?
[12:14] <arn_> i have a "*.ttf" font. can anyone tell me where should i put that? i cant read my native language site for that
[12:14] <lordkeiden> cafuego_: thanks. I have to know this if i'm ever gonna be as good in linux as i am in windows...vista pushed me here, and beryl made me glad for it.
[12:15] <bruenig> arn_, /usr/share/fonts
[12:15] <morrolan> arn:  in a window address bar, type fonts:/// and drag it into there
[12:15] <sycho> GionnyBoss, The install in text mode is self explanatory.
[12:15] <bruenig> arn_, there may be some more navigation from /usr/share/fonts depending on  your setup but that is where the fonts are housed
[12:15] <GionnyBoss> it ask me "boot: " and I don't know what to do, sycho
[12:16] <morrolan> GionnyBoss:  press enter.
[12:16] <GionnyBoss> sycho, should I download a different Ubuntu CD installation to do installation in text mode?
[12:16] <GionnyBoss> aaah just press enter, ok!
[12:16] <GionnyBoss> thanks
[12:16] <sycho> GionnyBoss, what cd did you download?
[12:16] <unop> !alternate | GionnyBoss
[12:16] <ubotu> GionnyBoss: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> I have the desktop CD
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> is there an anlternate installation CD for Edgy, too?
[12:17] <unop> GionnyBoss, sure
[12:17] <bruenig> GionnyBoss, certainly
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> ok thanks
[12:17] <corevette> how do i get to mysql once installed from synaptic?
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> so there is no way to install it text mode with a Desktop CD?
[12:17] <vinny> I have the file backup.tgz on the very top of the filesystem (root?) How do i delete it? (send to trash resonds with permission denied)
[12:17] <sycho> GionnyBoss, Theres an alternative cd for edgy as well as feisty
[12:17] <corevette> GionnyBoss the Ubuntu Alternative CD
[12:17] <GionnyBoss> ok thanks a lot
[12:18] <unop> vinny,  at a terminal - sudo rm backup.tgz
[12:18] <sleepy723> does irssi have a cloaking option?
[12:18] <corevette> how do i get to mysql once installed from synaptic?
[12:18] <unop> corevette,  use the mysql utility - mysql -u username -p password
[12:18] <sleepster> Has anyone run Ubuntu on a MAC with power prc
[12:18] <sleepster> prc
[12:18] <sleepster> pc
[12:19] <vinny> Thank you unop. learning more everyday
[12:19] <morrolan> Can anyone tell me how to format an external laptop HDD (USB2) to fat32?  Gparted keeps mounting it and then complaining it's mounted, and cfdisk will only create the partition table if the drive is bootable, which I don't particularly want?
[12:19] <cafuego_> sleepster: Yup, it runs fine on my iBook G4.
[12:19] <corevette> unop how do i know my username/password?
[12:19] <crusoe> unop: www.pastebin.ca/348139
[12:19] <FunnyMan3595> viny: gksu nautilus works too, if you want a GUI method.
[12:19] <unop> vinny,  the problem is you need write permissions on a file to delete it -- in this case, it'l likely you didnt have them so you needed sudo
[12:20] <FunnyMan3595> *vinny
[12:20] <corevette> Unop: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:20] <Jowi> morrolan, why does it mount automatically?
[12:20] <FunnyMan3595> And he left.  ><
[12:20] <sleepster> cafuuego_ does it need to be an itenl processor?
[12:20] <sleepster> intel
[12:20] <unop> corevette,  run this again -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server
[12:20] <Jowi> morrolan, is it specified in /etc/fstab to do that?
[12:20] <morrolan> I have no idea - if I unmount it then open Gparted, I instruct it to erase the ext3 partition and replace it with fat32, it keeps mounting it halfway through.
[12:21] <arn_> bruenig, i found lotz of folders inside "/usr/share/fonts" folder, where should i put my font so that firefox can use it?
[12:21] <morrolan> Jowi - no, it isn't in /etc/fstab
[12:21] <lasttime> hi, i'm polish and my english isn't good, but i would like to explain my problem: how can i look trough windows's files from windows ?
[12:21] <corevette> unop nvm...didn't install the server
[12:21] <lasttime> from linux &
[12:21] <Jowi> morrolan, are you using gnome?
[12:21] <lasttime> *
[12:21] <cypherdelic_> how to invert xterm? anybody knows please.
[12:21] <morrolan> Jowi - yes, hence Gparted
[12:21] <unop> crusoe,  have you succcessfully managed to edit your sources.list with the one i gave you? if so .. just run this instead -- sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:22] <TurtleBoots> !nvidia
[12:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:22] <bean-oh> cypherdelic, man xterm
[12:22] <crusoe> unop: i just copy/pasted and saved what you posted on pastebin
[12:22] <apelsinchoklad__> hi
[12:22] <FunnyMan3595> polish | lasttime
[12:22] <FunnyMan3595> !polish | lasttime
[12:22] <ubotu> lasttime: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:22] <sycho> I ran into an odd thing with fstab. If I add my HD to mount then it will not place the mounted HD in Nautilus under Places. However if I remove the HD from fstab ubuntu will detect the drive and place it in nautilus under places. Why is that?
[12:22] <Jowi> morrolan, I use gparted but not gnome so I had to ask. In gnome, there are settings for automount cd's and usb devices. can you make sure everything in there is turned off?
[12:22] <unop> crusoe,  cool, just run the command then :)
[12:22] <morrolan> Jowi - sure, will do
[12:23] <tha_toadman> question for the gallery....why would my ubuntu 6.10 alternate ISO have trouble detecting a SATA hard drive?
[12:23] <crusoe> unop; beauty, it's getting pkg's now!!
[12:23] <lfdagm> hello, i have a 64 bits laptop byt i dont know wether 32 bit ubuntu has been installed, how can i know if i have the 64 bit os?
[12:23] <lasttime> thx
[12:23] <ericb> dire need of assistance with grub
[12:23] <sn0m> hi i got a lap top, does anyone know how to vista
[12:23] <unop> tha_toadman,  unlikely -- it has more of a chance at detecting and dealing with SATA and RAID configurations than the liveCD has
[12:24] <shatrat> lfdagm, uname -r will tell you the name of your kernel
[12:24] <sycho> tha_toadman, are you trying to manually mount?
[12:24] <lfdagm> if it end with 386 then i have the 32b right?
[12:24] <morrolan> Jowi - cheers dude, that was the problem, Gparted did it without a hitch once I'd told Gnome not to automount
[12:24] <morrolan> :)
[12:24] <LinX> who needs help
[12:24] <sycho> LinX, I so
[12:24] <Jowi> morrolan, glad i could help :)
[12:24] <tha_toadman> unop: my northbridge is ICH7 and i've tried the 2 options of 'achi' and a??..piix and they didn't work either...??
[12:24] <sycho> do*
[12:24] <witless> any opinions of freeloader as a bittorrent client?
[12:24] <morrolan> LinX - I need financial help.  and mental help.  Does that count?
[12:25] <crusoe> unop; at the end, it says "accept this solution" is that the normal thing that comes up?
[12:25] <tha_toadman> sycho: no - i'm trying to load off an ISO and do a fresh install
[12:25] <apelsinchoklad__> i am trying to install ubuntu on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram ... but after it has load.. (it says "ubuntu" and loadning).. it all turn just black...... whats wrong?? is the computer to old to work whit ubuntu??
[12:25] <LinX>  lol
[12:25] <shatrat> lfdagm, yes
[12:25] <lfdagm> thanks
[12:25] <shatrat> lfdagm, are you on dapper?
[12:25] <lfdagm> 6.06
[12:25] <ericb> i installed ubuntu on the 2nd partition of my sata drive, hd2. i am looking at the boot loader i installed on hd2 right now but trying to boot root hd2,1 says it is not a valid partition
[12:25] <lfdagm> dont know that codename that is
[12:25] <jinho> how do I find out what version kernel I have?
[12:25] <lfdagm> uname -r
[12:25] <shatrat> lfdagm, k, thats dapper.  The newer versions use a -generic instead of -386
[12:26] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, if you wait a while, do you hear a startup/login sound (even if the screen is black)?
[12:26] <jinho> thanks lfdagm
[12:26] <ericb> oh snap
[12:26] <funkyHat> Is there a way to get GDM to execute commands after startup and before shutdown?
[12:26] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: yes
[12:26] <sycho> LinX, I'm trying to figure out if I mount my HD in fstab then for some reason Nautilus will not display it under Places. But it still mounts it properly. But If I remove the HD from fstab then ubuntu auto detects it but will place it under nautilus places for me. Why is this? the only reason I mind is i would like to mount the hd using ntfs-3g.
[12:26] <HP_Vue> Is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org open source?
[12:26] <ericb> despite ubuntu being on hd2, and the boot loader being on hd2, it thinks its on hd0
[12:26] <ericb> thats retarded
[12:27] <shatrat> HP_Vue, what do you mean? its a website.
[12:27] <funkyHat> I want to run 'rmmod vesafb && modprobe radeonfb' once GDM has loaded, and the reverse before GDM shuts down the system
[12:27] <shatrat> HP_Vue, if you want to see the source, just click View Source ;)
[12:27] <HP_Vue> shatrat: Thats not the real source
[12:27] <morrolan> shatrat - I think he wants to host his lown pastebin site :)
[12:27] <HP_Vue> I mean the PHP
[12:27] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, then you will have to disable the framebuffer. I don't know how to do that on a ppc unfortunatly... do you use grub on that machine?
[12:27] <HP_Vue> morrolan: Correct
[12:27] <lfdagm> thanks for the help
[12:27] <lfdagm> cya
[12:28] <HP_Vue> So, would I be able to get the source/
[12:28] <shatrat> HP_Vue, Ive seen several sites running it, there might be a sourceforge project for it or something, I dont know exactly though.
[12:28] <HP_Vue> oh
[12:28] <corevette> unop...ok i ran: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server
[12:29] <morrolan> HP_Vue: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openpastebin/
[12:29] <Massinha> buenas povo
[12:29] <HP_Vue> Thank alot
[12:29] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: what is grub?? ..ok i try disable that somehow.. just need to ask some mac-guys.. thanks.
[12:29] <amonbish> ??
[12:29] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, you're vlkommen
[12:30] <sparr> my apps are responding very slowly, and i hear my hard drive(s) thrashing.  top says nothing is using a lot of cpu time, so i assume paging is at fault.  how can i find the app/process responsible for the problem?
[12:30] <Prez_> hello
[12:30] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, (grub is a bootloader)
[12:30] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: tackar tackar..  svenska?
[12:30] <corevette> how do i get to mysql on ubuntu linux?
[12:30] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: ok
[12:30] <shatrat> corevette, sudo apt-get install mysql?
[12:31] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, yeah, but are living abroad since 6-7 years
[12:31] <morrolan> sparr, open a system monitor applet and configure it so you can keep an eye out
[12:31] <corevette> already installed shatrat...how do i find the server information?
[12:31] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: okej
[12:31] <sparr> morrolan: keep an eye out for what?
[12:31] <Prez_> running Ubuntu 6.10 and cannot download pics from my canon SD800, i get An error has ocurred in io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0...
[12:31] <jinho> ok I might not be understanding something but I have kernel version 2.6.15-23-386, but the kernel-header packages on synaptic are all 2.4.xx, does that mean there's a mismatch between what I need and what's on synaptic, or is the 2.4.xx number completely different from my kernel version for kernel packages?
[12:31] <Prez_> anyoen familiar with that?
[12:32] <morrolan> watch your CPU, memory, swap and HDD access, and try and eliminate down to what is causing what
[12:32] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, in grub you disable the framebuffer by passing the option "vga=normal" if that's any use to you.
[12:32] <erUSUL> jinho: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:32] <morrolan> Prez_ I get the same with my camera, but I haven't looked into it yet :(
[12:32] <unop> corevette,  dpkg-reconfigure would have asked you for details such as the mysql root password, etc .. you can then use them later in the mysql command used to connect to it
[12:32] <Prez_> morrolan: just tried running gthumb as sudo, it worked!
[12:32] <f9lewis> What should i use to go on IRC with Ubuntu? Im on kopete now and its kinda bad
[12:33] <Prez_> morrolan: how could I set it for use by my user?
[12:33] <Jowi> apelsinchoklad__, on a "PC" it should also be possible to do in BIOS (but I have no idea if a PPC is similar)
[12:33] <morrolan> f9lewis, irssi, bitchx, x-chat
[12:33] <unop> f9lewis,  xchat
[12:33] <m_billybob> f9lewis: XChat ?
[12:33] <f9lewis> alrigh
[12:33] <morrolan> Prez_ gthumb is only working as sudo?
[12:33] <f9lewis> t
[12:33] <mandrill> where can I find icons (on the system, not externally)?
[12:33] <f9lewis> brb
[12:33] <jinho> erUSUL: awesome- btw besides the headers what else would I need to build my own drivers?, if you know that is
[12:33] <mandrill> !icons
[12:33] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[12:33] <Prez_> morrolan: the import from camera just worked, using sudo
[12:33] <jinho> erUSUL- would greatly appreciate the help
[12:33] <unop> mandrill,  /usr/share/{icons, pixmaps}
[12:34] <corevette> shatrat how do i find out my mysql username/password??
[12:34] <nanothief> how do you add a folder to the PATH variable for the terminal?
[12:34] <mandrill> thnx unop :)
[12:34] <unop> nanothief,  use this command  - export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/newdir
[12:34] <morrolan> Prez_ what exactlydid you type?
[12:34] <Jowi> mandrill, you can also install them in ~/.icons if you want them only available to your user.
[12:34] <unop> nanothief,  you can add that command to your .bashrc to make this persistent
[12:34] <nanothief> thanks
[12:34] <jinho> besides the kernel-headers, what other packages do I need to build drivers (i.e. the NVIDIA display drivers)
[12:34] <Prez_> morrolan: just sudo gthumb then did an import photos
[12:35] <apelsinchoklad__> Jowi: running os x on it now.. dont now how to do.. think i will have to go looking in the terminal-program..
[12:35] <morrolan> Prez_ thanks!
[12:35] <Prez_> morrolan: so i guess my rgular user does not have access to whatever USb stuff it needs to import photos
[12:35] <erUSUL> jinho: sudo apt-get build-essential <<<< and that's it
[12:36] <acts_as_idiot> Hello all. Any Xen users here? I'm fighting to get it installed on Edgy...
[12:36] <morrolan> Prez_, it could be the device itself when it is opened - does it mount it like a normal USB disk, because mine doesn't
[12:36] <morrolan> !xen
[12:36] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[12:36] <jinho> haha thanks erUSUL
[12:36] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: Xen + edgy (udev) is a PITA
[12:36] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: join ##Xen
[12:36] <Prez_> morrolan: does not mount it like regular USB disk...
[12:36] <erUSUL> jinho: no problem
[12:37] <acts_as_idiot> m_billybob: PITA?
[12:37] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: pain in the arse . . .
[12:37] <unop> acts_as_idiot,  pain in the backside
[12:37] <morrolan> Prez_ thats good, it might work for me then.  Once the camera is importing photo's, do you know what the /dev/DEVICE is that the camera uses?
[12:37] <acts_as_idiot> lol, yes I'm finding that.
[12:37] <ldiamond> hum, how do i show the userlist on Xchat?
[12:37] <Prez_> someone know what permissions I might have to give my regular user to access a ptp/ip camera?  gthumb imported fine using sudo, but regular user I get an io-library error
[12:37] <Jowi> acts_as_idiot, http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A+PITA&btnG=Search&hl=en (see last entry)
[12:38] <ldiamond> oh i kinda found it
[12:38] <corevette> how do i find out my mysql username/password??
[12:38] <witless> unrar-free is not extracting multi-part rar archives...  is there another alternative?
[12:38] <unop> corevette,  were you not prompted for those details when you installed mysql-server?
[12:38] <acts_as_idiot> jowi: thanks
[12:38] <Jowi> witless, "unrar"
[12:38] <m_billybob> acts_as_idiot: anyhow join ##Xen, see if icblenke can enlighten you
[12:38] <Jowi> !unrar
[12:38] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:39] <GionnyBoss> will Ubuntu Edgy work on an old computer with 128 MB Ram?
[12:39] <acts_as_idiot> m_billybob: thanks, I'll try him
[12:39] <corevette> no unop
[12:39] <GionnyBoss> I can't find information about minimal requisites for Ubuntu Edgy...
[12:39] <Jowi> GionnyBoss, yes. use the alternative cd.
[12:39] <morrolan> GionnyBoss: not really, you'd be better running Xubuntu.
[12:39] <morrolan> !xubuntu | GionnyBoss
[12:39] <ubotu> GionnyBoss: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:39] <unop> witless,  make sure you have all the .rar parts in the same folder -- then unrar the main one -- usually ending with .rar or .r0, etc
[12:40] <Jinho> I just tried installing the nvidia drivers and now all I get is the Kubuntu startup screen but nothing's loading underneath...is this normal and should I wait or is this a sign that something's screwed up?
[12:40] <m_billybob> anyone here setup beryl on Edgy ? just curious how hard it was
[12:40] <ijk> I put the w32 codecs and generally all the media codecs I could find (using automatix) into my newly installet Ubuntu-system. But there's a problem. The colors in the videos are pale, but if I open the same video again while playing the colors are normal. Any idea?
[12:40] <unop> corevette,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql mysql-server  - ought to prompt you for those details
[12:41] <witless> Jowi: unop:   thanks, it's working
[12:41] <Ferret> ijk: Maybe some godawful program called automatix broke it
[12:41] <unop> ijk,  thats one of the problems of mixing various codecs packages -- stick to one, the popular package is w32codecs
[12:41] <morrolan> m_billybob:  I have an Intel 810 graphics card (rubbish) and I got XGL/Beryl working without a hitch"
[12:42] <ijk> I see. Will try to uninstall them somehow. Thanks.
[12:42] <m_billybob> morrolan: whats the other one ASXGL ?
[12:42] <m_billybob> thats the one id be shooting for, just curious how much it involves
[12:42] <unop> ijk,  also know why automatix is not a good thing to use
[12:42] <yellow> morrolan, really ? what's the rest of your bo'xs specs ?
[12:42] <johan_> GionnyBoss, here's an excellent link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[12:42] <unop> !automatix | ijk
[12:42] <ubotu> ijk: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:43] <morrolan> yellow:  It is a Toshiba Satellite, 2.6 Intel Celeron, 512Mb, Intel 810 graphics, 30Gb HDD
[12:43] <HP_Vue> morrolan: Were did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org get all those Syntax's from?
[12:43] <ijk> I should've known that. It just seemed like an easy way to get started!
[12:43] <GionnyBoss> johan_, thanks a lot!
[12:43] <m_billybob> and on a lappy too . . .
[12:43] <morrolan> HP_Vue, I have no idea about pastebin, I just knew there was a version on sourceforge.  Sorry
[12:43] <yellow> morrolan, cool
[12:43] <jowi_realone> m_billybob, what video chipset do you have?
[12:43] <HP_Vue> oh
[12:44] <m_billybob> 6600GT
[12:44] <sycho> anyone know how I can get nautilus to list drives in /etc/fstab ??
[12:44] <morrolan> yellow, for info, I followed the ATi guide on Ubuntuguide.org
[12:44] <m_billybob> its a leadtek 6600GT to be specific (128MB ram)
[12:44] <morrolan> just didn't install any ATi drivers
[12:44] <unop> sycho,  most of the mounted devices exist in /media -- so navigate there
[12:44] <yellow> morrolan, thanks!
[12:44] <ijk> thanks for the help - seems like I'll have a fresh install then!
[12:44] <morrolan> slows down a little when I'm pushing it though, but it's great to show off with!
[12:44] <sycho> unop, I know that but I want nautilus to list them under places. :)
[12:45] <m_billybob> Anyhow, i figured i could tack down a howto, was just curious how involved it was.
[12:45] <m_billybob> track down*
[12:45] <morrolan> I want to try Xubuntu, but I don't want to be left with a load of unused packages once I'm finished with it - any ideas on how to manage useless packages?
[12:45] <exa34> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install linux on my laptop.. i have finally figured out that it's because of the fakeRAID configuration and i'm trying to use dmraid to fix it. When i activate dmraid it recognizes the volume in /dev/mapper but it doesn't list the separate partitions.. could anyone help me out
[12:46] <unop> sycho,  add a bookmark for that location :)
[12:46] <m_billybob> morrolan: as the risk of running off topic, take a gander at Sabayon, it DEFINATELY looks pretty.
[12:46] <sycho> unop, probably would be the easiest way, eh?
[12:46] <m_billybob> i cant wait for Edgy to do a LiveCD, that uses Beryl
[12:46] <unop> sycho,  probably the only way too :)
[12:46] <imbecile> sooo say i have a wireless scanner on my desktop and i ssh into it with my windows laptop could i still use my linux scanners via my laptop?
[12:46] <ferret_0567> What package contains the "tree" command in 6.10?
[12:46] <unop> morrolan,  do you want to remove all the gnome packages? is that what you want?
[12:47] <morrolan> m_billybob - do you have a decent link?
[12:47] <sycho> unop, so why if i don't list my drives in fstab, ubuntu mounts and nautilus lists them?
[12:47] <ijk> my experience with Beryl is an exponential growth of crashes during uptime.
[12:47] <ferret_0567> nevermind
[12:47] <m_billybob> morrolan: well, i dont think it would be approprieate here, but google SabayonLinux
[12:47] <unop> ferret_0567,  package by the same name -- tree
[12:47] <sycho> unop, but if i do mount them in fstab then nautilus won't list them (but they still mount fine)
[12:47] <morrolan> unop, I want to TRY xubuntu but leave gnome.  If I finish with Xubuntu, how can I uninstall all of it's dependencies that Synaptic lists along with it?
[12:47] <morrolan> space is at a premium
[12:48] <Ferret> ferret_0567: use packages.ubuntu.com next time perhaps?
[12:48] <unop> morrolan,  this might help http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[12:48] <ferret_0567> I already figured it out
[12:48] <ferret_0567> without the help of packages.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <jowi_realone> morrolan, "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" that keeps track of everything it installs. use "sudo aptitude remove --purge xubuntu-desktop" to remove it again.
[12:48] <ferret_0567> aptitude is your friend
[12:48] <Flannel> morrolan: debfoster/deborphan can be used
[12:49] <unop> sycho,  i'm not sure i follow -- can you explain a little better?
[12:49] <jowi_realone> morrolan, aptitude keeps track. apt-get not so much.
[12:49] <sycho> unop, may I message you?
[12:49] <morrolan> thanks
[12:49] <unop> sycho,  you may
[12:49] <yellow> jowi_realone, what does aptitude keep trakc of ?
[12:49] <Prez_> morrolan: solved
[12:49] <jowi_realone> yellow, dependencies of metapackages.
[12:49] <yellow> jowi_realone, ah, tx
[12:49] <m_billybob> unop: is there a 'server mode' install for edgy that you're away of ?
[12:49] <m_billybob> aware of*
[12:50] <Flannel> m_billybob: yes, ther is.
[12:50] <ferret_0567> I have my own website: http://travism.hopto.org
[12:50] <unop> m_billybob,  there's a ubuntu server CD - is that what you are after?
[12:50] <quaal> do we have any known program that will open .daa (PowerISO) files ?
[12:50] <Prez_> morrolan: for the canon sd800 do the following, add: YSFS{idVendor}=="04a9", SYSFS{idProduct}=="3136", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev"  to the /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules file, then restart udev
[12:50] <ferret_0567> Isn't Linux great :)
[12:51] <m_billybob> unop: well simply put Dapper has bad I/O, atleast on that machine ive tested it on, im looking for a simple CLI install of Edgy, the I/O diffference is huge
[12:51] <quaal> ferret_0567, doesnt take linux to create a website.
[12:51] <ferret_0567> Well...atleast it hosts it without so many security vulnerabilities
[12:51] <Flannel> m_billybob: If you want a "server" install, (with the server kernel), the server CD.  If you just want a desktop sans GUI, the alternate CD, then the 'server' option from that
[12:51] <unop> m_billybob,  well, what i tend to do is use a minimal install -- netinstall maybe and then add on what i do need
[12:52] <ferret_0567> And Linux users are typically smarter than the average
[12:52] <Linkmasta23> joe
[12:52] <m_billybob> unop: im familiar wit hthe Debian netinstall, is it simular to debian ?
[12:52] <m_billybob> or do you mean F6 at CD boot ?
[12:52] <Flannel> m_billybob: there's no reason to do a netinstall.  If you don't want to download the whole CD, you can use the minimal ISO (~8mb)
[12:53] <unop> m_billybob,  i do the latter -- and i'm sure there's a ubuntu netinstall too
[12:53] <kyng> ayuda
 And Linux users are typically smarter than the average <-- not necessarilly true
[12:53] <ferret_0567> Opps...didn't even install Apache again
[12:53] <MonkeyINAbaG> especially in the ubuntu world
[12:53] <m_billybob> Flannel: can yo uelaborate a little ? I havent seen that option with the CD ive downloaded
[12:53] <kyng> el kde de ubunto no me quiere arrancar que puedo aser para suvir
[12:53] <m_billybob> and yes, i did look :)
[12:54] <unop> !es | kyng
[12:54] <ubotu> kyng: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:54] <cafuego_> !es | kyng
[12:54] <ferret_0567> anybody here use audacious?
[12:54] <unop> sycho,  do you see my replies in pm?
[12:54] <Flannel> m_billybob: the Desktop CD only does the Desktop installation.  The Alternate CD has a 'server' option, which installs a GUI-less system designed for normal desktop use.
[12:54] <sycho> unop, no..
[12:54] <saftsack> will 2.6.20 available for 6.10 in the future?
[12:54] <quaal> hmm
[12:54] <m_billybob> Flannel: ah, and thats 6.10 also ?
[12:54] <cafuego_> saftsack: no.
[12:54] <Flannel> m_billybob: there's also a minimal ISO, which is the same installer as the Alternate CD, excepty without the packages.
[12:54] <sycho> unop, are you registered with nick server?
[12:54] <reiki> I borked my Edgy install.... little help understanding what I need to fix... X is borked. Message is kernel module is 1.0-8776, X module is 1.0-9746. I know this is nvidia related but I'm not sure what I need to change to fix it
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[12:54] <Flannel> m_billybob: aye, Alternate CD is available for all versions
[12:54] <Flannel> saftsack: no
[12:54] <cafuego_> saftsack: major version updates don't go into stable releases.
[12:55] <m_billybob> hmm i mustve downloaded the 6.06 alternate then .  ..
[12:55] <quaal> i found a poweriso linux version. how do you make a program so that you can just type 'programname' anywhere in the prompt to use it
[12:55] <reiki> oops... one too many lines in the copy... sorry
[12:55] <saftsack> cafuego, an ubuntu version is bound to a kernel?
[12:55] <cafuego_> reiki: rerun the nvidia installer.
[12:55] <m_billybob> Flannel: ok, cool, thanks
[12:55] <saftsack> so only every half year a kernel update is possible?
[12:55] <cypherdelic_> how to list active windows?
[12:55] <saftsack> if i want to use the ubuntu sources?
[12:55] <brosio> how could i align horizzontaly the icon of my gnome desktop ?
[12:55] <unop> sycho, yes, i am .. but anyway -- there are two ways devices are mounted -- one is via /etc/fstab (which mount handles) and there are userspace mounts (handled by pmount) .. that could explain the behaviour you see
[12:55] <cafuego_> saftsack: Nothing stopping you from building your own.
[12:56] <Flannel> saftsack: for minor kernel versions, yeah.  bugfixes/security updates happen throughout the life cycle though
[12:56] <reiki> cafuego_ I reran the one in add/remove ... is that the problem? I should have used the one to install the 9746 driver?
[12:56] <Dregin> hey, could someone recommend me software to rip streaming video from a flash video player?
[12:56] <sycho> unop, so you think when its not listed in fstab pmount is mounting them?
[12:56] <brosio> how could i align horizzontaly the icon of my gnome desktop ?
[12:56] <jowi_realone> quaal, add the directory to the path. if you want it system wide use /etc/environment
[12:56] <ahvargas> hi i want to install mpich in ubuntu any ideas?
[12:56] <saftsack> but isnt there a developement branch like in debian where every new package is shortly available after its release?
[12:56] <cafuego_> reiki: In that case, you need to redo 'nvidia-glx'  as well as the restricted modules.
[12:56] <Flannel> saftsack: no
[12:56] <saftsack> cafuego, thats true but it is more comfortable to use an image :)
[12:56] <unop> sycho,  yes, precisely - i dont think so, i know so :)
[12:56] <quaal> jowi_realone, so putting the program in /etc/environment will make it available anywhere in the terminal..
[12:57] <quaal> just like fdisk or whatever
[12:57] <brosio> how could i align horizzontaly the icon of my gnome desktop ?
[12:57] <cafuego_> saftsack: You cna bake your own image easily enough <heh> 'make-kpkg ' is your friend.
[12:57] <saftsack> whats about updates? is it possible to update from major to major without reinstall the whole system?
[12:57] <reiki> cafuego_ ok... I'll set the xorg.conf for Edgy back to "nv" and go in and try again (I'm in Feisty right now
[12:57] <saftsack> cafuego, i know
[12:57] <jowi_realone> quaal, yes. have a look at /etc/environment and it will become clear.
[12:57] <sycho> unop, but then root and home are listed in nautilus and they arte both mounted through fstab? why them but not my backup hd?
[12:57] <unop> sycho,  thats so that when you plug in devices like cameras, usb-drives etc, you dont have to meddle about with mount at the terminal, etc
[12:57] <quaal> jowi_realone, thanks alt
[12:57] <quaal> alot
[12:57] <Flannel> saftsack: of course.  upgrading ubuntu is supported (although only one release at a time, you shouldn't, for instance go 5.10 to 6.10)
[12:58] <unop> sycho,  there might be exceptions that nautilus reserves for those volumes (i'm guessing)
[12:58] <jowi_realone> quaal, no, not putting the program there. put the path to the program in that file
[12:58] <quaal> jowi_realone, now i see, /environment is a file not a dir
[12:58] <saftsack> Flannel, but if i do it step by step 5.10 to 6.10 would be possible?
[12:58] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[12:58] <unop> sycho,  as they are two very commonly used locations (which always exist) -- it makes sense that they always be listed in palced
[12:58] <sycho> unop, would there be a way to get pmount to mount using ntfs-3g instead of NTFS when it auto detects a drive and sees it using ntfs?
[12:58] <Music_Shuffle> saftsack, yes.
[12:58] <saftsack> ok :)
[12:58] <Flannel> saftsack: yeah, 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10 is fully doable
[12:58] <quaal> jowi_realone, hmm
[12:58] <SurfnKid> how can i have full write access to a remote pc from gnome thru ssh
[12:58] <shatrat> saftsack, it might be faster to just back up your /home and reinstall though
[12:59] <quaal> jowi_realone, this is the only entry i have PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
[12:59] <quaal> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[12:59] <ahvargas> please help i want to install mpi in my box any ideas?
[12:59] <saftsack> humm maybe ...
[12:59] <unop> sycho,  afaik .. ntfs-3g uses fuse which is a userspace module -- and yea, ubuntu should automatically mount them for you if you plug them in (provided the devices are usb/firewire, etc)
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[01:00] <jowi_realone> quaal, normal. at the end of the PATH=".... line add ":/here/is/my/program/located"
[01:00] <sycho> unop, the one is SATA and the other is IDE
[01:00] <quaal> jowi_realone, ok
[01:00] <quaal> thanks again
[01:00] <tom47> are there any known issues with current updates?
[01:00] <mikemacd> anyone?
[01:00] <jowi_realone> quaal, or you can just put the program itself in /usr/local/bin
[01:00] <sycho> unp, they are actual HD. no removable
[01:01] <quaal> jowi_realone, ok..
[01:01] <unop> sycho,  well, i dunno what happens exactly if entries don't exist for them in /etc/fstab .. but why would you not have entries for them in /etc/fstab tho?
[01:01] <SurfnKid> how can i have full write access to a remote pc from gnome thru ssh
[01:01] <sycho> unop, they are actual HD, non removable (in case you missed that)
[01:01] <sycho> unop, because then they don't list themselves in nautilus as actual drives.. :) but if i don't have them listed they do. rember? :)
[01:01] <Sanne> hi
[01:01] <jowi_realone> quaal, (as you can see in the PATH line in /etc/environment, /usr/local/bin is already there so can chose how you want to do it)
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[01:02] <bruenig> !hi | Sanne
[01:02] <ubotu> Sanne: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:02] <CrakeHunter> hello, is version 6.10 less stable than 6.06.1? and
[01:02] <Sanne> bruenig: :)
[01:02] <quaal> jowi_realone, right
[01:02] <bruenig> CrakeHunter, yes
[01:02] <bigcx2> hey all
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[01:02] <bigcx2> is anyone a pcmcia badas?
[01:02] <unop> sycho,  i'd like to know why you are "against" the whole concept of /etc/fstab :) and they are drives, irrespective of how they are mounted :)
[01:03] <bigcx2> i'm having trouble getting a compactflash reader working under ubuntu
[01:03] <quaal> jowi_realone, where is the best place to put programs that must be installed manually? i've been using /home/username as it seems that is where most of the programs instlaled from repository go
[01:03] <sycho> unop, I'm not against it. In fact both my NTFS drives ARE mounted through fstab as we speak.
[01:03] <bruenig> quaal, none of the programs from repositories go to /home/username
[01:03] <quaal> bruenig, hmm
[01:03] <sycho> unop, Its just when they are nautilus dosn't recognize them as seperate HDs
[01:03] <bigcx2> quaal: if you are installing a program not in ubuntu
[01:03] <ahvargas> anyone knows how to install mpich in ubuntu?
[01:03] <quaal> bruenig, where do they go then? maybe those are just user settings i'm seeing there
[01:03] <bigcx2> it should go in /opt
[01:03] <bruenig> quaal, generally /usr/local is meant for manual things
[01:04] <bruenig> quaal, they are installed in /usr
[01:04] <bruenig> from repos
[01:04] <jowi_realone> quaal, as bruenig none of them installs in your home. myself, I use /opt to install my own programs in.
[01:04] <quaal> ok
[01:04] <quaal> cool thanks
[01:04] <unop> sycho,  continue using them from there then :p and just add bookmarks for each of their mount points in nautilus .. :p
[01:04] <ldiamond> On Edgy, i modified xorg.conf to enable 1680x1050 resolution, however, when i select it, my monitor does not recognize it as 1680x1050 and the text looks wierd
[01:04] <unop> mikemacd,  verify that the drive has DMA enabled from within the BIOS
[01:04] <bigcx2> so does anyone in here have any experience getting pcmcia devices working?
[01:04] <sycho> unop, I'm goning to. I was just wondering if there was a way to to get a more professional look/feel. As if they were listed in Nautilus as drives like normal.
[01:05] <atum1997> good point, roxville
[01:05] <tom47> mikemacd i am not certain but my guess is you need to boot the cd with DMA inactive
[01:05] <CrakeHunter> hello again, my messengers always crash on 6.10 :( - is there an alternative to gaim in ubuntu? (apart from kopete which is for kde orginially)
[01:05] <atum1997> good point
[01:05] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to get full write access to a remote PC?
[01:05] <SurfnKid> a remote linux box
[01:05] <jrib> SurfnKid: ssh with an account that has full write access
[01:05] <unop> sycho,  if you were being _professional_ .. it shouldnt matter how locations "look" :) but yea, i know what you mean but i dont know if theres a way to get what you want
[01:05] <rbil> sycho: one of the beauties of Linux is that all drives get mounted under the / of the filesystem
[01:05] <SurfnKid> CrakeHunter: aMsn
[01:05] <mikemacd> ok unop
[01:06] <mikemacd> what if i enable it
[01:06] <jrib> SurfnKid: or ssh as your user and then switch to a user with full write access
[01:06] <CrakeHunter> ok ill try that
[01:06] <SurfnKid> jrib: hmmm, let me try that but i think its already the full access one
[01:06] <mikemacd> my drive wont screw up?
[01:06] <sycho> unop, I know this is dumb to say. Nautilus listed them back in edgy when mounted in fstab. But in Feisty nautilus does not. :/
[01:06] <unop> mikemacd,  no,
[01:06] <cherva> i have 2 little problems with skype 1-st somehow skype started showing only the online users and i don't see that as an option in options
[01:06] <unop> !dma | mikemacd
[01:06] <ubotu> mikemacd: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[01:06] <SurfnKid> jrib: like i want to write to the /var/www/ folder but it doesnt let me, hang on ill try what u said
[01:06] <mikemacd> what will i be looking for in the bios
[01:06] <mikemacd> if its not called DMA
[01:06] <mikemacd> or will it be
[01:06] <sycho> unop, nautilus use to do it. Not any more I guess. Or not yet. :)
[01:07] <mikemacd> im pretty dense that way lol
[01:07] <CrakeHunter> amsn, only supports msn . i am searching for a icq, aol and irc compatible messenger , apart from gaim and kopete
[01:07] <jrib> SurfnKid: by default only root has access to /var/www I think
[01:07] <tom47> i did an update (kernel etc) now 6.10 wont boot
[01:07] <SurfnKid> this is weird it doesnt let me go thru root
[01:07] <unop> sycho,  or there's soemthign that you need to configure in nautilus -- you could check out settings in the gconf-editor .. just a jab-in-the-dark
[01:07] <jrib> SurfnKid: what do you mean?
[01:07] <mikemacd> unop
[01:07] <mikemacd> in the bios, it will definitely be called DMA?
[01:08] <sycho> unop, thanks anyways. :) (and really it was more of a nit pick thing. But learning to configure things just the right way is fun)
[01:08] <mikemacd> or direct memory access/addressing?
[01:08] <ldiamond> On Edgy, i modified xorg.conf to enable 1680x1050 resolution, however, when i select it, my monitor does not recognize it as 1680x1050 and the text looks wierd
[01:08] <sycho> unop, great idea. I'll check. anyways I'll catch ya later. thanks again
[01:08] <ahvargas> any ideas mpich??
[01:08] <SurfnKid> well I did a connect to.. selected SSH and put the ip of the box, then below i put username, and i put root
[01:08] <ahvargas> or mpi
[01:08] <czambran81> Does anybody know what I can use to remotely access an Ubuntu computer, something like the Remote Desktop connection functionality of Windows?
[01:08] <CrakeHunter> if i want to use LVM, do i have to set up my 2 discs as raid arrays (fakeraid) in bios, or is it fine just to leave them as two seperated discs?
[01:08] <SurfnKid> i put the password
[01:08] <SurfnKid> but didnt accept it
[01:08] <jrib> SurfnKid: it's usually a bad idea to let root ssh into a box
[01:08] <SurfnKid> ah
[01:08] <jrib> (so it's probably not allowed)
[01:08] <m_billybob> czambran81: remote X session ?
[01:08] <jrib> SurfnKid: is this an ubuntu box?
[01:08] <czambran81> m_billybob: yes
[01:09] <SurfnKid> yeah, here's the reason why
[01:09] <unop> mikemacd,  it's usually called DMA, yes
[01:09] <SurfnKid> i hate to move files to /tmp then i have to log into the remote box and move them to /var/www
[01:09] <m_billybob> czambran81: windows to linux ?
[01:09] <unop> mikemacd,  i cant think of anything else it would be named
[01:09] <czambran81> m_billybob: linux to linux
[01:09] <tom47> are there any known issues with the latest kernel updates?
[01:09] <jrib> SurfnKid: I don't understand
[01:09] <czambran81> m_billybob: VNC won't do, because I need to be logged in on the remote computer in order to use it
[01:09] <jowi_realone> SurfnKid, just log in normally into it via ssh. then use sudo if your user is in the admin group
[01:09] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:09] <m_billybob> czambran81: google "remote X sessions howto
[01:10] <SurfnKid> but im using nautilus to view the files
[01:10] <whadar> what do i have to install if i want to mount squashfs and i have dapper?
[01:10] <m_billybob> czambran81: X doesnt tha tnativley i think
[01:10] <jrib> SurfnKid: but I don't think I need to.  Just set up proper permissions on /var/www so you don't need to sudo
[01:10] <whonicca> how do u find out who's the maker of an ubuntu package
[01:10] <SurfnKid> jrib: oh ok, gotcha
[01:10] <jrib> whonicca: apt-cache showsrc PACKAGE  maybe
[01:10] <bruenig> whonicca, apt-cache show package | grep Maintainer
[01:10] <czambran81> m_billybob: I would think other people would like to do the same thing
[01:10] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea, if you make your user a member of www-data (i think thats the group name) .. your user should have the right access to /var/www
[01:10] <SurfnKid> i guess its like xp, you dont have full access anyway even with read/write priv
[01:11] <m_billybob> czambran81: i dont know how, i just know that it is possible
[01:11] <czambran81> m_billybob:  thanks
[01:11] <SurfnKid> unop: so do i create the username im currently on, on the remote p?
[01:11] <SurfnKid> c
[01:11] <whonicca> ricardo  markiewicz where are u@@
[01:11] <czambran81> I just the search you suggested and a few results came up
[01:11] <czambran81> I will look into it
[01:11] <czambran81> m_billybob: thanks a lot
[01:11] <m_billybob> czambran81: ive a friend on another server that knows how . . .
[01:11] <unop> SurfnKid,  no, just add your current username (e.g. surfnkid) to the www-data group
[01:11] <m_billybob> perhaps you could hok up with him
[01:12] <unop> !usermod | SurfnKid
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usermod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <whonicca> has anyone installed xchat-xsys and realized it doesnt have xmms support
[01:12] <whonicca> =\
[01:12] <SurfnKid> unop: but its a remote box does tha tmatter?
[01:12] <czambran81> m_billybob:  sure
[01:12] <czambran81> m_billybob:  which server?
[01:12] <m_billybob> afternet #linux
[01:12] <jowi_realone> SurfnKid, "adduser yourusername www-data" should do the trick
[01:12] <SurfnKid> unop: the remote box doesnt have my username
[01:12] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, in that case -- add the user name you log into ssh with on the remote box to the www-data group (on the remote box) :)
[01:12] <jrib> www-data shouldn't own web content
[01:12] <jrib> or at least shouldn't have write access to
[01:12] <SurfnKid> unop: ah ok that makes more sense
[01:13] <czambran81> m_billybob: and the name of your friend?
[01:13] <m_billybob> czambran81: irc.afternet.org #linux, ask for Rubin, and be patient ;)
[01:13] <SurfnKid> this is sort of like Win 2k user administration
[01:13] <unop> jrib,  errm, but i think the home directory of www-data is /var/www anyway -- and it should have complete access there
[01:13] <bruenig> weird
[01:13] <flamesrock> hey, how do I get `xrandr -s 0` to run while kde is loading?
[01:13] <elpargo> hi could someone tell me which is the default key combination for gcalculator?
[01:13] <SurfnKid> unop: i would love complete access to that remotely
[01:13] <czambran81> m_billybob:  I am login right now
[01:14] <unop> SurfnKid,  the www-data group has read/write access in that folder - if your user is a member of that group, you get those priveleges too
[01:14] <ldiamond> Can any1 help me fix my resolution in ubuntu Edgy?
[01:14] <bruenig> !fixres | ldiamond
[01:14] <ubotu> ldiamond: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:15] <ldiamond> I checked that alredy
[01:15] <ldiamond> already*
[01:15] <ldiamond> does not work
[01:15] <unop> SurfnKid,  this is pretty much like windows user administration (infact micrsoft copied and enhanced the unix permissions model)
[01:15] <Skuller> hey guys....i just started using 6.06 a while back....and i need a LOT of help....
[01:15] <rogueChsbrgr> ldiamond: ubotu is a bot
[01:15] <SurfnKid> unop: done, added, now to try... :)
[01:15] <jrib> unop: really only files that *need* to be written to by apache should be the ones that apache has write access.  That's my understanding anyway
[01:15] <SurfnKid> unop: hah i didnt know that
[01:15] <bruenig> Skuller, pick something and ask
[01:15] <ldiamond> yes but bruenig is not i guess
[01:15] <corevette> can someone help me with mysql/php/apache????
[01:15] <flamesrock> whats a good audio converter for ubuntu?
[01:15] <Skuller> firstly.....can sum1 recomment me a good music player
[01:16] <jrib> Skuller: amarok
[01:16] <Xenguy> flamesrock: from/to ?
[01:16] <flamesrock> everything to mp3 ideally
[01:16] <jrib> !lamp | corevette
[01:16] <ubotu> corevette: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:16] <flamesrock> or ogg
[01:16] <bruenig> !media players
[01:16] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:16] <jowi_realone> Skuller, quodlibet
[01:16] <Skuller> umm....one wich can play mp3's too
[01:16] <Skuller> i have rythm installed but it doesnt play
[01:16] <unop> jrib,  but apache handles permissions within itself using directory/location/path directives and whatnot -- yea, i know what you mean but its just the way things are
[01:16] <flamesrock> well not to play necessarily, but to convert
[01:16] <bruenig> Skuller, you need codecs to play mp3, has nothing to do with the media player
[01:16] <flamesrock> like ffmpeg for noobs
[01:17] <Skuller> ohh.....where do i get codecs for rythm?
[01:17] <bruenig> !mp3 | Skuller this site will tell you how to get pretty much any codecs you need
[01:17] <ubotu> Skuller this site will tell you how to get pretty much any codecs you need: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:17] <SurfnKid> unop: ok nothing, but here's what i did
[01:18] <jowi_realone> Skuller, rhythmbox uses gstreamer. search synaptic for gstreamer and you will find tons of codecs.
[01:18] <SurfnKid> unop: added the user on the remote box to the www-blah group
[01:18] <Skuller> hmm..ok...i'll do that...thnx
[01:18] <unop> SurfnKid,  sorry for being pedantic -- but its www-data not www-blah :)
[01:18] <SurfnKid> unop: came back to my laptop and selected  Connect to Server...  SSH, set the IP, and then the username
[01:18] <SurfnKid> unop: lol i mean that yeah
[01:19] <SurfnKid> and then I reauthenticated the session
[01:19] <SurfnKid> unmounted/mounted
[01:19] <Gangstaz> so yeah
[01:19] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, did you check that your user is indeed in that group now?  use  id or groups to verify
[01:19] <Gangstaz> what makes Ubunturd superior to other distros
[01:19] <MonkeyINAbaG> heh
[01:19] <SurfnKid> I entered the password, took it, opened the folders but still doesnt write
[01:20] <SurfnKid> unop: i went to user/groups in the menu
[01:20] <whonicca> anyone else figure out how to log into samba shares
[01:20] <jrib> SurfnKid: ls -ld /var/www   on the remote box
[01:20] <whonicca> i put in my xp password and it says unable to authenticate
[01:20] <SurfnKid> then went to groups, and I looked for www-data and added sx270 as the user
[01:20] <SurfnKid> jrib: ok let me see
[01:20] <MonkeyINAbaG> Gangstaz) whats ubuntu competing with? windows? fedora? opensuse? freespire? of course its superior :)
[01:21] <Gangstaz> Well
[01:21] <smaake> mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint -o username=dsn,password=password
[01:21] <SurfnKid> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2007-01-31 04:48 /var/www
[01:21] <Gangstaz> when i boot it
[01:21] <jowi_realone> www-data group does not have write access normally. but the www-data (owner) does
[01:21] <Gangstaz> it doesn't work
[01:21] <Gangstaz> of course
[01:21] <Gangstaz> i have a blu-ray burner
[01:21] <CrakeHunter> which graphic card drivers should i use with a nvidia 7600 gs?
[01:21] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to open a "JNLP" file?
[01:21] <jowi_realone> 'nite all
[01:21] <unop> SurfnKid,  yep, the www-data group only has rx permissions .. as you can see there
[01:21] <MonkeyINAbaG> Gangstaz) so you are trying to boot off your blu-ray drive?
[01:21] <SurfnKid> unop: maybe i have to set the rw permissions on-that-folder
[01:22] <SurfnKid> jrib: what do u think
[01:22] <spasticteapot> I think JNLP is something to do with Java Webstart - I'm not sure.
[01:22] <jrib> SurfnKid: as you can see www-data doesn't own that.  I'd recommend creating a new group.  But either way you need to change the group
[01:22] <Gangstaz> Yes
[01:22] <Sanne> CrakeHunter: I have a 7600 GT and use the drivers from the repositories
[01:22] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:22] <unop> SurfnKid,  no, its likely that those are the default permissions
[01:22] <whonicca> smaake, im trying to log in via nautilus
[01:22] <MonkeyINAbaG> Gangstaz) can you boot other cds/dvds off that drive?
[01:22] <CrakeHunter> i.e. the ones in synaptic?
[01:22] <MonkeyINAbaG> have you tried?
[01:22] <dynamicreflux> does any one have any idea why i fresh install of herd 3 would get stuck for 1.5 minutes at about 50% on the load screen, then finally go to the login page?
[01:22] <Gangstaz> Yes i can
[01:22] <Gangstaz> oops
[01:22] <Gangstaz> i forgot to flip it
[01:23] <MonkeyINAbaG> :)
[01:23] <corevette> how do you restart apache?
[01:23] <SurfnKid> unop: if i change the folder permission to full access, will that enable it?
[01:23] <Sanne> CrakeHunter: here's help on what to do (if you get stuck, just ask): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:23] <CrakeHunter> okay thanks
[01:23] <spasticteapot> Oops...
[01:23] <ransid> question
[01:23] <spasticteapot> Regardless, does anyone know what JNLP files are?
[01:23] <someothernick> !jnlp
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jnlp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <someothernick> :/
[01:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, hi ^^
[01:24] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, all i think you need to do is change the ownership of the folder -- sudo sh -c "chown www-data.www-data /var/www; chmod 774 /var/www/"
[01:24] <jvai> hey ppl.. came to learn
[01:24] <ransid> im on a laptop and the touchpad is bugging me, is there an easy way to toggle or disable mice / touchpads
[01:24] <unop> livingdaylight__,  hey :) did you fix the issues with your router?
[01:24] <dynamicreflux> does any one have any idea why i fresh install of herd 3 would get stuck for 1.5 minutes at about 50% on the load screen, then finally go to the login page?
[01:24] <SurfnKid> unop: wow, you know this stuff well.. ok let me check something brb
[01:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, i'm not aware why there should have been issues
[01:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, but it is fine now
[01:25] <FakeOutdoorsman> Anyone know where libmilter is usually installed to?
[01:25] <unop> livingdaylight__,  well, i saw you get kicked out yesterday as a precautionary measure by the ops here on that issue
[01:25] <jrib> unop: needs to be recursive right?
[01:25] <livingdaylight__> unop, i followed the instructions given on the page given to me and chagned port but it still didn't work, so i gave up.
[01:25] <cloogon> What is ubuntu?
[01:25] <jrib> !ubuntu | cloogon
[01:25] <ubotu> cloogon: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:26] <unop> jrib,  well, recursive would upset everything in the folder -- if he just wants write access to /var/www .. it doesnt need to be
[01:26] <nicolah> How do I insert a space in a name file ? (in the shell)
[01:26] <livingdaylight__> unop, that's right and today again. What i didn't realize was after changing port i still had to go into separate quarantine rooms and pass tests, which iv'e done now. They got the sniffer dogs out and everything. I told them i was innocent!
[01:26] <nicolah> something like listen this.mp3
[01:26] <FakeOutdoorsman> nicolah: blah/ blah
[01:26] <leonardo> hi there
[01:26] <nicolah> thanks
[01:26] <ransid> jrib: Do you know how to "easily" disable mice / touchpads ?
[01:26] <unop> jrib,  but yea, i think he should be made aware of the implications of these permissions here
[01:26] <cloogon> yes,I see
[01:26] <ransid> i mean, obviously to disable a USB mouse, you unplug it...
[01:26] <unop> livingdaylight__,  :))
[01:26] <ransid> but what about the touchpad?
[01:26] <jrib> ransid: use "synclient" to disable touchpads
[01:27] <__mikem> lol ransid you beat me to it
[01:27] <leonardo> does any one know how to configure latex accents in ubuntu?
[01:27] <ransid> ;)
[01:27] <ransid> had to cover my bases
[01:27] <unop> livingdaylight__,  so did you manage to import that partition in then?
[01:27] <ransid> jrib; thanks
[01:27] <jrib> !permissions | SurfnKid
[01:27] <ubotu> SurfnKid: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:27] <livingdaylight__> unop, well, no, we had just had the /media/multimedia breakthrough when we got disconnected
[01:27] <jrib> easiest solution
[01:27] <unop> SurfnKid,  you should know that the other directories and files within /var/www/* will still retain the old permissions -- jsut to make you aware
[01:28] <SurfnKid> jrib: thanks man
[01:28] <livingdaylight__> unop, i wasn't sure what was next so i took a break. So, where were we? ^^
[01:28] <SurfnKid> unop: oh right, kind of like parent/child perm
[01:28] <unop> livingdaylight__,  we were trying to mount that partition last
[01:28] <SurfnKid> ok cool
[01:28] <unop> SurfnKid,  exactly :)
[01:28] <__mikem> Heres a little riddle for you. How can you instantly stop a hacker from hacking your system?
[01:28] <FakeOutdoorsman> anyone know how to disable the "touch the touchpad twice to click" feature?
[01:28] <livingdaylight__> unop, i've been downloading,burning and making nice labels with glabels
[01:28] <SurfnKid> :)
[01:28] <bruenig> __mikem, strong magnets
[01:28] <SurfnKid> ok brb let me try this
[01:29] <jahid> hi, how can i install "libssl0.9.6" and "xlibs"?
[01:29] <spasticteapot> __mikem: Disconnect your ethernet cable?
[01:29] <unop> SurfnKid,  it shoudlnt cause any problems for the time being -- but just be aware incase you do have problems
[01:29] <yellow> __mikem,  yank the ethernet cord out
[01:29] <livingdaylight__> unop, but my printer thinks brown is black or prints it like that anyways. So, you can imagine what a cd lable of a desert looks like
[01:29] <cloogon> which is better windows and ubuntu?
[01:29] <__mikem> or turn it off
[01:29] <spasticteapot> __mikem: The other solution involves either an oxy-acetylene torch, or, my favorite, a pickaxe.
[01:29] <unop> livingdaylight__,  :))
[01:29] <whadar> kernel support squashfs mounts by default in dapper?
[01:29] <livingdaylight__> unop, well, we had just mounted that hadn'w we?
[01:29] <jvai> _miken.. use squid proxy cache, drop packets, & use snrt.. & keep an eye on the /var/logz lmao
[01:29] <unop> livingdaylight__,  sounds like you need to tweak about in /etc/printcap (i think)
[01:29] <yellow> spasticteapot, hehe
[01:30] <__mikem> cloogon, which is better a mustang or a model T
[01:30] <ransid> jrib; i got this error when using synclient:   Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[01:30] <spasticteapot> __mikem: Depends on how much you've hotrodded either.
[01:30] <ransid> :S
[01:30] <unop> livingdaylight__,  errm, yea i think we tried that -- but i dunno if the mount was successful -- can you !pastebin the output of mount now
[01:30] <unop> ?
[01:30] <SurfnKid> unop: well yeah i do need child access i have 2 folders which are specifically the ones i need access to
[01:30] <jondowd> Hello - could you recommend a $10 dial-up provider?
[01:30] <spasticteapot> __mikem: The model T has a better cornering radius, better mileage, and legendary reliability.
[01:30] <livingdaylight__> unop, don't... that's for another day. I cant tweak no more :p
[01:30] <__mikem> spasticteapot, to see the sarcasm in what I just said, see cloogon's last statement
[01:30] <spasticteapot> jondowd: Look into getting Wifi from a local cafe' if possible.
[01:31] <unop> SurfnKid,  sudo sh -c "chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www; chmod -R 774 /var/www/"
[01:31] <jondowd> nope - out in the sticks, dial up
[01:31] <nicolah> FakeOutdoorsman,
[01:31] <nicolah> nicola@nicola:~/DCIM/100NIKON$ jhead -n%Y%m%d/ %H%M%S *.jpg
[01:31] <nicolah> Skipping readonly file '%H%M%S'
[01:31] <nicolah> Error: Couldn't rename '2007_01_002\20070102-221801.jpg' to '2007_01_002\20070102/.jpg'
[01:31] <spasticteapot> __mikem: Sue me, I'm contrary.
[01:31] <jvai> model t for the ladies, & the mustang to jealous the guys
[01:31] <nicolah> looks like the blah/ blah
[01:31] <nicolah> does not work
[01:31] <spasticteapot> jvai: I'd rather have a model T- 50% better mileage.
[01:31] <livingdaylight__> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4966/ mount output
[01:31] <SurfnKid> unop: ok let me try that
[01:32] <spasticteapot> Also, you can turn them around in a pretty small parking lot.
[01:32] <jrib> ransid: take a look at "man synclient", also see http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2006-02/000651.html for a more verbose explanation of what you need in your xorg.conf.  Personally, I just turn the useless thing off in my bios
[01:32] <ransid> jrib, are you still around?
[01:32] <ransid> oh sorry
[01:32] <jvai> word @ spasticteapot
[01:32] <spasticteapot> And it's very unlikely to be stolen - hotwiring a Model T is almost impossible unless you're familiar with 'em.
[01:32] <jahid> can anyone tell me, how can i install "libssl0.9.6" and "xlibs"?
[01:32] <spasticteapot> I have a near-unmatched knowledge of totally stupid and useless information.
[01:32] <ransid> thanks, i was planning on just turning the listening time to like 10 seconds
[01:32] <cloogon> I want to learn java, is ubuntu a better choose?
[01:32] <spasticteapot> This explains why I always did brilliantly in American History class parts III through XI.
[01:33] <ransid> so essentially it would be almost disabled
[01:33] <unop> livingdaylight__,  looking good -- try this -- sudo sh -c "touch /media/multimedia/test; ls -l /media/multimedia/"
[01:33] <FakeOutdoorsman> nicolah: mv originalname new\ name\ with\ spaces
[01:33] <thrope> hi - I have a couple of quick questions: 1. how do I choose an SMP kernel (i have ht proc) 2. I use the deskbar alot, but it doesn't seem to pick up the path correctly (lot of programs not recognised)
[01:33] <SurfnKid> unop: hmm now my permissions are denied
[01:33] <livingdaylight__> unop, is that one thing?
[01:33] <livingdaylight__> unop, or does the semicolon separate
[01:33] <brent> is this where i get help from someone knowing ubuntu better than myself?
[01:34] <SurfnKid> unop: after running sudo sh -c "chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www;  chmod -R 774 /var/www/"
[01:34] <livingdaylight__> unop, cos the question marks suggest to me its one
[01:34] <rbil> when I use gedit to write to a file on a FAT32 drive, I get an error that it cannot write a backup file. Is this a limitation of the file system or something I need to do in fstab?
[01:34] <SurfnKid> drwxrwxr-- 5 www-data www-data 4096 2007-01-31 04:48 /var/www
[01:34] <yellow> ask | brent
[01:35] <yellow> wait, where's the bot ?
[01:35] <yellow> lol
[01:35] <zynergi> by default, a usb flash drive when inserted in ubuntu should mount the drive automatically, right?
[01:35] <erisco> totem is playing video as audio... has anyone else heard of this?
[01:35] <witless> is it possible to play avi files in a regular dvd player?
[01:35] <unop> livingdaylight__,  its all one command
[01:35] <livingdaylight__> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4968/
[01:35] <unop> SurfnKid,  permissions denied on what?
[01:35] <jvai> erisco. yep all the tyme just point an audio file to totem
[01:35] <shoumik> Is there a way to delete firefox from opt
[01:35] <SurfnKid> unop: to enter/view the folder
[01:36] <SurfnKid> permission denied
[01:36] <brent> i have a viewsonic pf790 monitor and a geforce 6600 gt- on live cd no cursor and installed just lines on screen i have tried all the x  config stuff in wiki and to no avail. thanks in advanced
[01:36] <unop> livingdaylight__,  congratulations you now have successfully imported the partition :) all you need to do now, is copy your movies/music etc across and place shortcuts behind :)
[01:36] <jahid> how can i install yahoo messenger?
[01:36] <erisco> jvai, but this file is video and audio, and I am only getting the audio. Totem plays the little windows media player animation for it as well
[01:36] <SurfnKid> jahid: use gaim :)
[01:36] <bruenig> shoumik, sudo rm -rf /opt/firefox
[01:36] <shoumik> kk
[01:36] <bruenig> shoumik, how did you install that firefox because there might be more to do if you did it from a script
[01:36] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, can you pastebin this -- sudo ls -ld /var/www
[01:36] <jahid> SurfnKid, no, i want to use yahoo messenger
[01:36] <zynergi> by default, a usb flash drive when inserted in ubuntu should mount the drive automatically, right?
[01:37] <shoumik> i have 1.5 in my system
[01:37] <livingdaylight__> unop, :p
[01:37] <rbil> when I use gedit to write to a file on a FAT32 drive, I get an error that it cannot write a backup file. Is this a limitation of the file system or something I need to do in fstab? Even is sudo'd it can't create a backup.
[01:37] <jvai> ooo, maybe the file is bad? i had troubles w/ "pirates of the caribean.. wont play on dapper
[01:37] <shoumik> then i downloaded a script and run a few commands so that firefox upgraded
[01:37] <bruenig> shoumik, right, but did you symlink /usr/bin/firefox to the /opt version, because then you will need to link it back to ubuntu versions
[01:37] <SurfnKid> unop: drwxrwxr-- 5 www-data www-data 4096 2007-01-31 04:48 /var/www
[01:37] <soundray> zynergi: yes
[01:37] <shoumik> don't think so
[01:38] <Sulo_Seppa> Hey guys. I am a SUSE user, but right now I have my wife's laptop, and she is using windows but wants to 'use what I use.' I don't really think suse would be that great for a laptop as it's quite bloated, so I am wondering if ubuntu is good for laptops. There are a few things she needs to do with it as well:
[01:38] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, this too --  whoami; id;
[01:38] <bruenig> shoumik, ok well if you have any other problems...
[01:38] <erisco> jvai, they are wmv... apparently windows can play them alright
[01:38] <SurfnKid> k
[01:38] <zynergi> well, this is odd
[01:38] <erisco> !players
[01:38] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:38] <zynergi> windows freezes when i insert a usbkey..
[01:38] <zynergi> linux does nothing when i insert it
[01:38] <zynergi> doesnt show the device in computer
[01:38] <shoumik> ty man
[01:38] <erisco> !codecs
[01:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:38] <ldiamond> Can any1 help me fix my resolution problem on Edgy?
[01:38] <jvai> erisco.. i dunno i play .wmv vids ok in totem.. u got all the codecs?
[01:39] <Sulo_Seppa> Easy wireless internet access, media players (we watch dvds on it all the time), open office, zsnes :), and possibly 3d support
[01:39] <soundray> zynergi: install dosfsutils and run dosfsck on it?
[01:39] <SurfnKid> unop: http://www.pastebin.ca/348225
[01:39] <erisco> jvai, well tell me one I need.. and I'll see
[01:39] <Sulo_Seppa> So, is ubuntu good for those kinds of things?
[01:39] <unop> zynergi,  are you sure the usb drive's contents dont appear in /media/USBDRIVE
[01:39] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, wireless is hit or miss. If it works, it is great. If it doesn't, you are screwed
[01:39] <FakeOutdoorsman> rbil: fat32 doesn't support all the file permissions that linux filesystems need
[01:39] <jvai> !wmv codecs
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmv codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <LjL> !codecs
[01:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:40] <LjL> !w32codecs
[01:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:40] <ransid> hey
[01:40] <jvai> there u go! @erisco
[01:40] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, media players are fine. Vlc will play dvds that is what I use and that is in the repos
[01:40] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: Ah that is sad. Is it easier than in SUSE? I haven't still qutie figured it out
[01:40] <ransid> what is the command to edit plain text...erm, you know what i mean?
[01:40] <jvai> ty ljl
[01:40] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: Great! I use that media player all the time.
[01:40] <livingdaylight__> unop, do you wanna show me the last bit?
[01:40] <baktaah> Anyone here with an atheros card would like to share his kismet.conf with me?
[01:40] <unop> livingdaylight__,  let me know the names of the directories housing your music and videos
[01:41] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, it is not hard per se. Just some wireless cards and such aren't supported, but those same cards wouldnt be supported by suse. If you have a card that is supported, then it will be fine.
[01:41] <rbil> FakeOutdoorsman: so this not a prob but rather just a limitation?
[01:41] <spasticteapot> How much of a bounty would I need to offer to have someone fix the makefile (or make a .deb) for QTspeakerdesigner?
[01:41] <spasticteapot> http://katix.org/speakerdesigner/
[01:41] <livingdaylight__> unop, /home/conrad/music
[01:41] <unop> SurfnKid,  if you look at the output of id -- www-data is not among them .. which explains why you cant list that directory
[01:41] <soundray> Sulo_Seppa: I don't know exactly how bloated Suse is, but Ubuntu is certainly not lean
[01:41] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Try Xubuntu for a lighter Linux experience.
[01:41] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: So, would you reccomend Ubuntu for her laptop or anyother distro? I haven't used ubuntu since 5.06 (great version)
[01:41] <spasticteapot> Runs poifect on my slower machine.
[01:42] <SurfnKid> unop: :/ so then do i add www-data to another group?
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: I'm running it on a 1ghz Pentium-M thinkpad X40.
[01:42] <spasticteapot> It runs farking AWESOME.
[01:42] <Sulo_Seppa> Well, her windows installation is quite slow :)
[01:42] <Sulo_Seppa> So anything faster than that would be good
[01:42] <baktaah> I strongly suggest Xubuntu for laptops
[01:42] <ransid> ugh
[01:42] <soundray> Sulo_Seppa: except there never was a 5.06 ;)
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: I agree.
[01:42] <SurfnKid> Ubuntu for me
[01:42] <Sulo_Seppa> But isn't xubuntu ugly?
[01:42] <SurfnKid> Kubuntu for my old Sony Vaio
[01:42] <ransid> ugh
[01:42] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, xubuntu will go really quickly
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Just add a "battery monitor" on the taskbar, and you're done.
[01:42] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: check out xfce-look.org
[01:43] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,  please dont be so quick to judge
[01:43] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, I am using xubuntu, let me find a screenshot
[01:43] <spasticteapot> I have FancyCandy installed; the rendering engine it uses (Murrine) seems to be even faster.
[01:43] <baktaah> I feel that Xubuntu is the easiest dist ont the eyes
[01:43] <unop> livingdaylight__,  sudo sh -c "mkdir /media/multimedia/music; chown -R $USER.$USER /media/multimedia/music"; cp -Rvi ~/music /media/multimedia/music
[01:43] <baktaah> And you can make it go with XGL for the eye candy
[01:43] <baktaah> google XGL :)
[01:43] <spasticteapot> baktaah: I'm inclined to agree.
[01:43] <baktaah> or use youtube
[01:43] <wulfen> I'm having some problems installing ubuntu on my computer. After install&reboot grub fails with error 17. On closer inspection it seems like ubuntu lists the disks (sda,sdb etc) in the wrong order compared to the ports on the motherboard. Anyone able to give me some pointers on how to troubleshoot?
[01:43] <baktaah> spasticteapot,  I just installed it btw :) and im in Love
[01:43] <Sulo_Seppa> I use KDE and it is very easy to configure which is why I was thinking Kubuntu
[01:43] <jollyroger> Hey can someone help me set up a wireless network using a linksys WUSB54G ver. 4?
[01:43] <witless> is it possible in ubuntu to create a VCD from an .avi file?
[01:43] <jollyroger> I'm running Edgy.
[01:43] <baktaah> jollyroger,
[01:44] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, granted this is very basic, you can make it much better, but it isn't ugly. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/12182006.png
[01:44] <baktaah> download wireless manager
[01:44] <baktaah> or
[01:44] <spasticteapot> Xubuntu works so well, it's scary - fast too.
[01:44] <baktaah> type
[01:44] <baktaah> iwconfig
[01:44] <unop> livingdaylight__,  i am copying for the time being to make sure that the contents are replicated over first -- once this is done- verify all your music is copied over to the new location -- i'll give you the next set then
[01:44] <baktaah> iwconfig dhcdpcd
[01:44] <Moosejaw> is feisty fawn stable?
[01:44] <bruenig> Moosejaw, no
[01:44] <cafuego_> Moosejaw: no, it's alpha
[01:44] <FakeOutdoorsman> witless: yeas, I think...with ffmpeg
[01:44] <Moosejaw> k thanks
[01:44] <jollyroger> Ok I'll go try that thanks baktaah.
[01:45] <jrib> Moosejaw: it's planned to be released on 7.04 (2007 April)
[01:45] <witless> FakeOutdoorsman: thanks, i will look
[01:45] <baktaah> jollyroger,  np however I should tell that I just started with the whole Linux thing, just installed Xubuntu
[01:45] <Moosejaw> cool...
[01:45] <livingdaylight__> unop, that was one hell of a command. Its working and they're copying over
[01:45] <unop> SurfnKid,  run this command on the remote machine - sudo usermod -G www-data $USER
[01:45] <cafuego_> witless: ffmpeg -i foo.avi -target vcd-pal (or vcd-ntsc) foo.mpg
[01:45] <baktaah> anyone here with kismet and atheros card?
[01:45] <kingbob> what is the location of the c headers
[01:45] <kingbob> ?
[01:46] <Sulo_Seppa> bruenig: that looks very nice, I will consider it! But with the wireless, is there a lot of configuration and stuff that I would need to do? Really have little time considering my work hired some moron with no certifications, and who keeps changing shit because he thought it wasn't working
[01:46] <witless> cafuego - thanks - is that possible with more than one avi, if they fit?
[01:46] <unop> livingdaylight__,  cool :) once they are done copying, verify the contents by navigating to /media/multimedia/music
[01:46] <ldiamond> Can any1 tell me how to share settings between Thunderbird in Windows and in Ubuntu?
[01:46] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: What kind of card do you have?
[01:46] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Intel and some other vendors' cards work off the bat.
[01:46] <cafuego_> witless: only if you do an SVCD, VCDs don't have a menu option afaik.
[01:46] <Sanne> kingbob: somewhere in /usr/include, I think
[01:46] <Sulo_Seppa> spasticteapot: Uhh, not sure. she has the laptop now, but I know it's a dell from late 2005
[01:46] <FakeOutdoorsman> witless: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD
[01:46] <brent> will someone tell me how to edit line on installed ubuntu the screen resolution so i can get my mouse cursor to work and I will leave ... please
[01:46] <Moosejaw> can aixgl be used with ati cards?
[01:46] <cafuego_> kingbob: /usr/include of course.
[01:47] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: NDISwrapper works pretty well, too - in a few minutes, you can have it working.
[01:47] <bruenig> Sulo_Seppa, it isn't really that you have a lot of configuration. If it works, it should work well without much configuration. If it doesn't, it doesn't. There is some exception for those that kind of work through ndiswrapper which are a pain to setup.
[01:47] <SurfnKid> unop: i did, returned nothing
[01:47] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Oh lordy, do I hate dell.
[01:47] <cafuego_> kingbob: if you dpn't have them, you need 'build-essential'.
[01:47] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,
[01:47] <SurfnKid> unop: tried to view the /var/www folder, nothing
[01:47] <jollyroger> Ok what do I do after running that command?
[01:47] <baktaah> Listen to me.
[01:47] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: Odds are you have a Broadcom, so you'll need NDISwrapper.
[01:47] <baktaah> YOU NEED A PRIEST
[01:47] <kingbob> thank you cafuego_ & sanne
[01:47] <unop> SurfnKid,  that indicates successs -- verify group membership with id
[01:47] <baktaah> the dell... make sure it is surrounded with garlic and cruxifixes :) kidding, use Xubuntu man :)
[01:47] <SurfnKid> unop: gotcha
[01:47] <SurfnKid> brb
[01:48] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: You may have one of the nicer models with Intel "centrino" setups...hence, intel wireless cards.
[01:48] <spasticteapot> These should work without configuration.
[01:48] <bayziders> Are there any ways to increase torrent speed besides port forwarding?
[01:48] <spasticteapot> With the Broadcoms, it's a crapshoot.
[01:48] <bruenig> bayziders, get on torrents with more seeds
[01:48] <jollyroger> baktaah, Ok what do I do after running that command?
[01:48] <soundray> kingbob: if you can't find them, it could be because they aren't installed by default. Get the build-essential package.
[01:48] <Sanne> kingbob: you're welcome :)
[01:48] <unop> bayziders,  choose better seeds
[01:48] <cafuego_> unop: sudo rsync -oprv ~/music /media/multimedia
[01:48] <Sulo_Seppa> spasticteapot: So, would I just do that apt-get NDISwrapper, and everything is good?
[01:48] <baktaah> jollyroger, did you write iwconfig?
[01:48] <cafuego_> unop: (as a fast alternative)
[01:48] <jollyroger> Yes.
[01:48] <bayziders> unop, what's a seed?
[01:48] <shatrat> bayziders, increase your upload speed if you have it limited.  The more people you upload to the more people will upload to you in return
[01:48] <baktaah> so, what output?
[01:48] <unop> cafuego_,  same thing effectively :)
[01:48] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: I hate to do this, but check out the Ubuntu Wiki.
[01:48] <Sulo_Seppa> baktaah: How much lighter is XUbuntu?
[01:48] <jollyroger> Give me a second I'll copy it.
[01:49] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,  ALOT
[01:49] <FakeOutdoorsman> bayziders: you could use a client that supports DHT
[01:49] <cafuego_> unop: Well, it does verification ... and you cna kinda resume if you stop or crash halfway through :-)
[01:49] <baktaah> Sulo_Seppa,  Kubuntu EATS the computer alive
[01:49] <spasticteapot> You'll need to install a standard Windows driver for NDISwrapper to work - to put it simply, it's a windows emulator for drivers.
[01:49] <spasticteapot> baktaah: Mepis seemed to run sorta-okay on a 733mhz PIII.
[01:49] <SurfnKid> unop: um i cant do anything, I cant get into user/groups how do i get back the access?
[01:49] <spasticteapot> XFCE ran faster on a PC with a 333mhz Celeron and about half the ram, though.
[01:49] <unop> bayziders,  a seed is what youd call a source -- multiple seeds can exist for a single file -- better or higher ranked seeds usually provide better speeds, bandwidth, access, etc
[01:50] <bayziders> Okay I'm a little confused. First what is uploading and does Azuerus support dht?
[01:50] <spasticteapot> Sulo_Seppa: If you need any more help, e-mail my IRC user at gmail.com
[01:50] <unop> SurfnKid, what does the id command return?
[01:50] <FakeOutdoorsman> Sulo: I'm running a light version of Xubuntu with openbox as the GUI on a 7 yo Toughbook
[01:50] <baktaah> All I have to say is that from using Kubuntu,  Xubuntu seems easier on the computer
[01:50] <baktaah> less lag
[01:50] <baktaah> faster starting times
[01:50] <spasticteapot> FakeOutdoorsman: Nice.
[01:50] <baktaah> easier processing.
[01:50] <jvai> yea, i got xubuntu in a pentium 1 w/ 64 mb of ram.. dsl connect, fraster than xp on the same box
[01:50] <spasticteapot> FakeOutdoorsman: What model? I've always been curious about those.
[01:50] <baktaah> It's like ther are weights lifted from the computers shoulders
[01:51] <baktaah> jvai,  yeah that is the shit :)
[01:51] <elias_> how to set the HZ in my kernel?
[01:51] <SurfnKid> unop: just --- id ?
[01:51] <spasticteapot> IMHO, Xubuntu is far superior to Ubuntu.
[01:51] <baktaah> Yeah
[01:51] <unop> SurfnKid,  yep
[01:51] <baktaah> FAR
[01:51] <SurfnKid> k
[01:51] <matgates> Anyone else with nvidia car re-living last year's mess with the nvidia xorg driver getting broken?
[01:51] <spasticteapot> If only because people in the 3rd world can afford PCs that can run it.
[01:51] <baktaah> Im in love :) (got Xubuntu for like 20 minutes ago)
[01:51] <Sulo_Seppa> Alright, thanks for your help everyone! I am going to read a little more about xubuntu and use either that or kubuntu. Thanks again
[01:51] <matgates> *card
[01:51] <cafuego_> baktaah: well, Xubuntu is *far* more lightweight.
[01:51] <baktaah> cafuego,  it doesn't show :)
[01:51] <baktaah> I mean
[01:51] <baktaah> really
[01:51] <spasticteapot> IIRC, the $200 ($70 in mass production, I'd guess) runs Xubuntu like a champ.
[01:51] <baktaah> get XGL to run on it
[01:51] <baktaah> it will be the prettiest lightweight between ub/kub
[01:51] <matgates> An update killed mt nvidia module
[01:51] <bruenig> baktaah, it would hopefully show how lightweight it is, that is the point
[01:52] <jvai> word @baktsh, but xubuntu feels limited, i had a hard tyme changing wallpaper
[01:52] <SurfnKid> unop: http://www.pastebin.ca/348235
[01:52] <spasticteapot> jvai: check the config menu.
[01:52] <FakeOutdoorsman> you can install Xubuntu witout GDE and use soem other lightweight windows manager.  info at ubuntu wiki is useful
[01:52] <baktaah> jvai, ....... rightclick, desktop? what the hell
[01:52] <spasticteapot> It's a bit like Apple's OSX, which I'm pretty familiar with.
[01:52] <baktaah> HOWEVER
[01:52] <baktaah> I can't change my resolution
[01:52] <jvai> yea.. it never stiked aftr a reboot
[01:52] <jollyroger> baktaah, rausb0    RT2500USB WLAN  ESSID:"linksys"
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:18:F8:49:F6:6C
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Bit Rate=54 Mb/s
[01:52] <jollyroger>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Link Quality=0/70  Signal level:-43 dBm  Noise level:-195 dBm
[01:52] <baktaah> the display manager is falty.
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:52] <jollyroger>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:52] <spasticteapot> Actually, my interface is creepily similar to the OSX GUI.
[01:52] <jollyroger> Sorry about the flooding.
[01:52] <spasticteapot> XFCE is very customizable.
[01:52] <brent> help edit line on installed for resolution??????
[01:53] <matgates> which package provides the nvidia module?
[01:53] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, still no change -- have you tried logging off and logging back in?
[01:53] <sashalap> XFCE is poor
[01:53] <baktaah> jollyroger,
[01:53] <baktaah> sashalap,  hell no
[01:53] <SurfnKid> unop: that could help right :)
[01:53] <soundray> matgates: linux-restricted-$(uname -r)
[01:53] <matgates> soundray: thanks.
[01:53] <baktaah> jollyroger,  download wireless assistant
[01:53] <bayziders> I'm just asking cause I'm geting 2.1 kbs right now.
[01:53] <jollyroger> From where?
[01:53] <baktaah> ...apt-get
[01:53] <unop> cafuego_,  i know what you are saying -- but the verification and resume seems a little of overkill for a local-to-local replication :)
[01:53] <baktaah> or whatever u got
[01:53] <jollyroger> Just making sure.
[01:53] <unop> SurfnKid,  indeed
[01:53] <sashalap> but i usage Kubuntu
[01:54] <kingbob> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?
[01:54] <fips> when i try to compile apache, i get:
[01:54] <fips> gcc: @APRUTILL_LDFLAGS@: No such file or directory
[01:54] <fips> /usr/bin/install: cannot stat `apache2': No such file or directory
[01:54] <fips> mv: cannot stat `debian/apache2-mpm-worker/usr/include/apache2/apu*': No such file or directory
[01:54] <inan> anyone know when the linux-image-generic issue is likely to be fixed?
[01:54] <baktaah> ANYONE with KISMET and an atheros card, I would be grateful for some help, all I need is something from your kismet.conf
[01:54] <unop> !paste | fips jollyroger
[01:54] <ubotu> fips jollyroger: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:54] <soundray> inan: it's been fixed.
[01:54] <cchance> Every one, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4971/ How can i make that apply to my network users as well?
[01:54] <fips> what's the matter?
[01:55] <cchance> To where they apply to the same rules but through my pc
[01:55] <unop> fips,  try and not paste directly into the channel -- its busy as it is :)
[01:55] <BuckWild> can someone explain to me why it is that the only way I can get DVDs to play is if I insert them?
[01:55] <BuckWild> totem plays DVDs when you insert them
[01:55] <BuckWild> but won't if you hit play DVD
[01:55] <BuckWild> and nothing else does either
[01:56] <inan> soundray: I'm still getting unmet dependency on linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic, maybe delay in propogation?  do you know which server it's on now?
[01:56] <nevron> is there a tabbed file manager that i can use in ubuntu
[01:56] <notgod> ok, this one is a really small issue, but it's bugging the crap outta me.  I am used to command line history in the terminal (zsh) going to the end of the line when I up-arrow to one of my previous commands.  For some reason, it's going to the begenning of the line.
[01:56] <SurfnKid> unop: now i should run id ?
[01:56] <SurfnKid> unop: let me see
[01:56] <soundray> inan: security.ubuntu.com I think. Have you done a 'sudo apt-get update'?
[01:56] <unop> BuckWild, you got multiple optical devices -- perhaps another cdrom drive ?
[01:56] <SurfnKid> unop: uid=1000(sx270) gid=1000(sx270) grupos=33(www-data),1000(sx270)
[01:57] <BuckWild> unop: yes I do
[01:57] <fips> unop: yes, i see! sorry! ;)
[01:57] <BuckWild> unop: dvd-rom and dvd-r
[01:57] <cchance> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4971/
[01:57] <Sanne> nevron: you can use konqueror in ubuntu (it will install a bunch of kde libs)
[01:57] <tinto> anyone know how to run an X session over ssh? - just a keyword so I can find somehting on google would be massively appreciated as I can only find how to run X apps - not an X session.
[01:57] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, hold tight -- i'm coming to the rescue :)
[01:57] <tinto> ..?
[01:57] <SurfnKid> unop: ok np
[01:57] <SurfnKid> thanks
[01:57] <Blacken> Hey there, I installed the rageircd package but it blew up mid-install, returned an error code. Now I can't remove it. How do I get rid of it?
[01:57] <inan> soundray: yes, i've updated.. maybe I need to apt-get -f install?
[01:57] <brent> please tell me what to type in edit line to change my resolution?
[01:57] <soundray> BuckWild: can you play the DVD from the context menu when you right-click on the symbol?
[01:58] <unop> errm, BuckWild not that i know how to fix this -- it's likely that totem (or whatever else) is trying to play the DVD from the wrong drive (the cdrom in this case)
[01:58] <bayziders> Whats the best port for torrents?
[01:58] <soundray> inan: I don't think so. Do it tomorrow, by then it will have propagated.
[01:58] <cchance> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/
[01:58] <BuckWild> unop: don['t think that's it because even if I hit it from the file menu it doesn't work
[01:58] <jvai> 6667
[01:58] <sashalap> BuckWild try VLC
[01:59] <sashalap> or Kaffeine
[01:59] <fips> compiling apache i encounter the following problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4973/
[01:59] <kingbob> cafuego_: I tried /usr/include after installing build-essential, but the install said The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.11) does not match your running
[01:59] <kingbob> kernel (version 2.6.15-26-386).
[01:59] <fips> what's the matter?
[01:59] <sashalap> maybe work
[01:59] <kitche> tinto: freenx
[01:59] <BuckWild> it says I don't have the appropriate plugins, which makes no sense because it plays it when I put the disk in, WTF
[01:59] <inan> soundray: simulating a -f install will only install linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic, looks safe
[01:59] <BuckWild> I'm getting flustered and thinking about going back to WinXP
[01:59] <BuckWild> haha
[01:59] <soundray> kingbob: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[01:59] <brent> please tell me what to type in edit line to change my resolution?
[01:59] <sasha> ))
[01:59] <soundray> inan: yes
[02:00] <kingbob> soundray: thank you
[02:00] <jvai> buckwild.. dont do it maaan
[02:00] <BuckWild> I can't get twinview to work, I knew I wouldn't be able to get my TV tuner working which is fine, but I'd like to at least have twin view and DVD player going
[02:00] <jollyroger> I'll be right back I'm getting on my Ubuntu Machine.
[02:00] <apelsinchoklad__> I have started the install-cd on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram... but screen is just black.. i have change to the console mode now... but what should i write to see something when i turn back to the desktop???
[02:01] <Sanne> kingbob: if you're missing a certain file and you know it's name, you can check on packages.ubuntu.com which package provides that file (second search box).
[02:01] <BuckWild> twinview pretends like it's using two monitors and then just uses one
[02:01] <tinto> kitche, thanks ;)
[02:01] <BuckWild> no error, nothing
[02:01] <soundray> BuckWild: for twinview, have you read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz ?
[02:01] <sasha> apelsinchoklad xmm,try startx
[02:02] <livingdaylight__> unop, sorry, the page has scrolled off. Its just finished copying, Could you give  me the command again, please?
[02:02] <kitche> tinto: you can use vnc though ssh but I think freenx is just better then vnc though ssh
[02:02] <dayat> anyone help me please?? i can't install acrobat reader plugins in firefox
[02:02] <livingdaylight__> unop, cd /media/multimedia/music ?
[02:02] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, first command - sudo usermod -G $USER
[02:02] <soundray> dayat: are you on amd64?
[02:02] <ferret_0567> !logs
[02:02] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:02] <dayat> intel 386
[02:03] <unop> livingdaylight__,  or use nautilus as you are comfortable with it
[02:03] <unop> :)
[02:03] <freefloat> dayat: try xpdf
[02:03] <cchance> Everyone, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/
[02:03] <brent> i cant even see my freaking desktop and u think yall have probs
[02:03] <unop> SurfnKid,  second command : for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do echo sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:03] <livingdaylight__> unop, its there
[02:03] <apelsinchoklad__> sasha: dosent work.. says: fatal server error...
[02:03] <BuckWild> soundray: I read through a couple guides
[02:03] <dayat> my website need acrobat reader
[02:03] <unop> SurfnKid, correction ..  second command : for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:04] <BuckWild> soundray: like I said, I looked at the logs when it was starting up, and it seems like it should work but it just never does
[02:04] <SurfnKid_> unop: what the...  start on "for...  end on ;" ?
[02:04] <freefloat> dayat: I don't think so :-)
[02:04] <tinto> kitche, am just checking it out now - confused so far  but I'm sure it'll sort itself out. - All excited :) first pandora, then ssh - now freenx will become a part of my life... just gets better & better!!!
[02:04] <soundray> BuckWild: use that README, it's from nvidia and it has all the details
[02:04] <unop> SurfnKid_,  i think I accidentally erased your group membership with the -G switch to usermod in the first command then
[02:04] <BuckWild> soundray: I actually did read this, only it was online
[02:04] <freefloat> dayat: That would be really strange not to say flawed
[02:04] <SurfnKid_> unop: uh oh
[02:05] <livingdaylight__> unop, that is amazing
[02:05] <SurfnKid_> ok but it can be fixed?
[02:05] <BuckWild> soundray: the problem isn't in me setting the options, the options don't work
[02:05] <SurfnKid_> unop: let me try that command then
[02:05] <unop> SurfnKid_,  not to worry, just run these two commands and it'll be back to normal :)
[02:05] <BuckWild> soundray: unless I have to add another monitor entry or something that I'm missing
[02:05] <inan> soundray: thanks for your help, my apt is working now.
[02:05] <livingdaylight__> unop, so, you've attached sda5 to /media?
[02:05] <unop> livingdaylight__,  you sure all your music exists in that directory ? :)
[02:05] <dayat> xpdf is not work at this website
[02:05] <unop> livingdaylight__,  indeed :)
[02:06] <dayat> its need acrobat reader
[02:06] <BuckWild> I mean, I'd be happy to clank away all night if I were guaranteed a solution, but I have a feeling the end game looks a lot like it does right now, no DVD player and no twinview...intolerable
[02:06] <dayat> so can you help me to install plugins
[02:06] <Blacken> Hey there. I just tried to install the rageircd package and it broke. Now I can't remove it. How do I get rid of the bloody thing?
[02:06] <livingdaylight__> unop, that's clever and i can just shift things over there now. So, i can empty my /home/conrad/music
[02:06] <soundray> BuckWild: no DVD player isn't true, and have you tried my context menu suggestion?
[02:06] <unop> livingdaylight__,  now, if you're happy that all your music is in the new location -  rm -rf ~/music; ln -s /media/multimedia/music ~/
[02:06] <freefloat> dayat: this is just about picking the right mime/type as a helper application
[02:06] <unop> livingdaylight__,  which is what i just did :)
[02:06] <BuckWild> soundray: what context menu are you talking about?
[02:07] <soundray> BuckWild: the one that opens when you right-click the DVD symbol on the desktop.
[02:07] <unop> livingdaylight__,  only difference is you can still access your music through /home/conrad/music (as it links to /media/multimedia/music) :)
[02:07] <livingdaylight__> unop, i better just check one more time, hehe
[02:07] <BuckWild> I don't get an option to open that with anything
[02:07] <SurfnKid_> unop: hold on one sec
[02:07] <BuckWild> besides the file viewer
[02:07] <ferret_0567> !logs
[02:07] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[02:07] <unop> SurfnKid,  do you want the command again? let me know if you do :)
[02:07] <soundray> BuckWild: what does a double-click do?
[02:08] <BuckWild> soundray: opens the disk with a folder
[02:08] <livingdaylight__> unop, so, that leads me to ask. Coz i'm using nicotine+ to share music. Will i have to change directory for people to still be ale to access my music?
[02:08] <soundray> BuckWild: you're not on feisty by any chance?
[02:08] <BuckWild> soundray: nah I'm on 6.10
[02:08] <brent> if someone would just tell me to go away of ban me or answer this question that i have asked for the 8th time How to change screen resolution in edit instead of ignoring me
[02:09] <SurfnKid> ok there
[02:09] <unop> livingdaylight__,  correction (to be a little safer) -  rm -rf ~/music; ln -s /media/multimedia/music ~/music .... and no, all your apps and whatnot should work just the way they did
[02:09] <Hansel> brent - you want to change your X resolution?
[02:09] <apelsinchoklad__> i repet the question: I have started the install-cd on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram... but screen is just black.. i have change to the console mode now... but what should i write to see something when i turn back to the desktop???
[02:09] <beck> !amarok
[02:09] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[02:09] <BuckWild> the real kicker for me is the fact that DVDs play when you put the disc in
[02:09] <BuckWild> automatically
[02:09] <rocks_port> hello
[02:09] <brent> yes on edit screen
[02:09] <Hansel> hi rocks_port
[02:09] <jordguitar> Umm.... whenever I try to install ubuntu on my hard drive, it just freezes up after the 5th step.
[02:09] <BuckWild> but then you can't get them to play if you want otherwise, like WTF
[02:09] <livingdaylight__> unop, what does rm -rf ~/music; ln -s /media/multimedia/music ~/ do exactly?
[02:09] <Hansel> brent - what do you mean edit screen?
[02:09] <brent> i got pink lines
[02:09] <rocks_port> I accidentally removed my Grub MBR I think
[02:10] <soundray> brent: sometimes it helps to pose the question differently, to describe the problem in more detail etc. Have you tried Ctrl-Alt-Keypad+ ?
[02:10] <brent> no desktop
[02:10] <rocks_port> I'm on a liveCD right now, and I need to boot into my ubuntu....
[02:10] <Skuller> hey guys...i managed to get the rythm codecs and can now play my mp3 files.....
[02:10] <jordguitar> I want to install beryl also but this is the first time that I am attempting to install a linux OS
[02:10] <Hansel> brent - killall -HUP gdm
[02:10] <SurfnKid> unop: could you pm the commands separately plz i got confused
[02:10] <livingdaylight__> amazing
[02:10] <Skuller> BUT....the sound is quite distorted compared to my winamp in windows
[02:10] <unop> livingdaylight__,  two part command seperated by ;  first part removes the music directory, second part creates a link called /home/conrad/music which points to the new location /media/multimedia/music
[02:10] <soundray> rocks_port: fix it as if Windows had overwritten it:
[02:10] <soundray> !grub | rocks_port
[02:10] <ubotu> rocks_port: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:10] <BuckWild> MPlayer gives me some can't open dvd://1 garbage
[02:10] <aSt3raL_> livingdaylight__: man rm man ln
[02:10] <jordguitar> which is somewhat harder than installing windows vista
[02:10] <dayat> i've installed acroread and mozilla-acroread but it's not work in firefox
[02:10] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, coming up
[02:11] <aSt3raL_> livingdaylight__: rm is remove ln is lsystem link
[02:11] <soundray> dayat: have you restarted firefox?
[02:11] <jvai> buckwild is "dma" turned on? i forget the command to turn it on.. i had to from the hoary dayz
[02:11] <shatrat> Skuller, what do you mean by distorted?  You might want to try turning down some of the volumes in alsamixer.  I know that on mine if I turn PCM all the way up i tgets crackly.
[02:11] <nicolah> I would like to rename my photo with exif timestamp, any help ?
[02:11] <SurfnKid> sorry i didnt understand how they were broken down, :)
[02:11] <brent> thank you hansel i will try this
[02:11] <dayat> yes
[02:11] <BuckWild> at first I was gonna run 64-bit ubuntu, then I noticed that everything seemed to have an exception for 64-bit so that seemed too scary
[02:11] <unop> SurfnKid,   sudo usermod -G $USER;  for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:11] <jordguitar> Can I get some help?
[02:11] <BuckWild> having to install 32-bit firefox just to get flash to work sucks
[02:11] <shatrat> jordguitar, with what?
[02:11] <unop> SurfnKid,  oops, hold on
[02:11] <BuckWild> jvai: yeah, it's on
[02:11] <SurfnKid> heh np
[02:11] <unop> SurfnKid,   sudo usermod -G $USER $USER;  for i in adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin sx270; do sudo usermod -g $i; done
[02:11] <__mikem> !ask | jordguitar
[02:11] <ubotu> jordguitar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:11] <jvai> oiu
[02:12] <jordguitar> Installing ubuntu. I get to the 5th step and it just freezes and I already did
[02:12] <shatrat> jordguitar, which one is the 5th step?
[02:12] <Skuller> shatrat, where can i find the 'alsamixer' u tok abt
[02:12] <Skuller> ?
[02:12] <livingdaylight__> unop, rm -rf ~/music takes a while!
[02:12] <shatrat> Skuller, just type that in terminal.
[02:12] <rocks_port> oh my god
[02:12] <rocks_port> I thought I did that
[02:12] <Hansel> jordguitar - are you using Ubuntu installer?  They have command-line only installers if you have older hardware that freezes with the GUI installer... I had to do that for my old p1 400mhz.
[02:12] <rocks_port> I think this might work
[02:12] <rocks_port> thank you if it does.. =)
[02:12] <BuckWild> I don't understand why twinview is so hard to support, even in clone mode, I mean it friggin clones the display when you are starting the computer, before anything is loaded
[02:12] <BuckWild> how the hell hard can it be
[02:12] <aSt3raL_> livingdaylight__: if you want to know what a command does type man commandname
[02:13] <jordguitar> deciding how much of the hard drive you want to use for linux
[02:13] <unop> livingdaylight__,  so what i've done here is moved the directory to the new partition but left a shortcut behind which will fool other apps into believing that location still exists ..s o everything should be transparent to apps that dont know its a link
[02:13] <jordguitar> i forgot the wotd
[02:13] <jordguitar> word*
[02:13] <shatrat> jordguitar, partitioning step.  Did you do manual or automatic?
[02:13] <aSt3raL_> jordguitar: partitioning
[02:13] <brent> hansel one more question , i put this in the edit line on boot up ?
[02:13] <tc4200> Evening all.. anyone have the time and desire to help me correct a self inflicted boo-boo with ipw2200 install on dapper?
[02:13] <jordguitar> automatic
[02:13] <Hansel> brent - no...
[02:13] <jordguitar> i think
[02:13] <unop> livingdaylight__,  yea, depends on how much music you have in it .. should take no more than a minute
[02:13] <jordguitar> I chose the ammount and then ckicked next
[02:13] <Hansel> brent - explain in more detail what you are trying to do... if you want to fix your screen resolution for X Windows you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <Hansel> !resolution | brent
[02:14] <ubotu> brent: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:14] <livingdaylight__> aSt3raL_, i knew what rm does but i was interested in the meaning of the whole line, but thx
[02:14] <brent> i cant see desktop just vertical lines
[02:14] <soundray> BuckWild: I know you're getting impatient, but please stop swearing
[02:14] <dayat> soundray: what i must to do
[02:14] <Hansel> brent - read the URL in that link posted by Uboto...
[02:14] <BuckWild> soundray: I really don't want to use windows anymore, but this doesn't work either....
[02:14] <livingdaylight__> unop, you clever sod.. fooling all the apps, lol
[02:14] <Hansel> brent - you are probably trying too high of a resolution or using the wrong video driver... try vesa and 800x600
[02:15] <BuckWild> soundray: to go from something fully functioning to something that will probably never function at all...just can't happen
[02:15] <livingdaylight__> unop, done
[02:15] <brent> yes yes how to get that command at boot up?
[02:15] <jordguitar> I might just wipe the hard drive and just have linux but i need a linux internet driver for my Linksys wireless g usb network addaptor
[02:15] <unop> livingdaylight__,  ln creates links, ln -s creates a shortcut/soft_link -- ln -s /target/dir /path/to/shortcut :)
[02:15] <Hansel> brent - if you sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   it will make the changes permanent.
[02:15] <shatrat> jordguitar, you might try launching the Gparted thats in the System menu on the LiveCD
[02:15] <soundray> BuckWild: if you aren't willing to cut Linux some slack, then, by all means, return to the proprietary jail that is Windows.
[02:15] <SurfnKid> jordguitar: using wlan-ng?
[02:15] <unop> livingdaylight__, check this now -- find ~/music :)
[02:15] <M_Fatih> hi everybody
[02:15] <SurfnKid> unop: should have a pm there waiting
[02:15] <shatrat> jordguitar, youll need a large ext3 partition for / and one slightly larger than your RAM for /swap
[02:16] <BuckWild> soundray: I don't want to, I just said.  But not being able to run my TV and not being able to watch DVDs, that's just awful...
[02:16] <apelsinchoklad__> I have started the install-cd on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram... but the screen is just black.. i have change to the console mode now... but what should i write to see something when i turn back to the desktop??? someone hwo nows???
[02:16] <kitche> !dvd | BuckWild
[02:16] <ubotu> BuckWild: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:16] <jordguitar> model number is WUSB54GS
[02:16] <unop> SurfnKid, i was just going to ask how it was going -- i got no PM (are you registered on these servers?)
[02:16] <soundray> BuckWild: you're forgetting that it's awful hard to support all these proprietary technologies, like closed nvidia hardware and encrypted DVDs from an open OS
[02:16] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah hmmm
[02:16] <jvai> buckwild.. it may be a hardware prob... the box itself
[02:16] <Ins|de> hi there! i have a little question abount installing ubuntu, is it possible install ubuntu without formating the partition, can i install ubuntu without re-formating filesystem ?
[02:16] <BuckWild> jvai: how so?
[02:16] <Skuller> niiice....thnx heaps...the sound is clear now after reducing the PCM in alsamixer
[02:17] <shatrat> Skuller, no problem.
[02:17] <Quintin> Ins|de: not really.
[02:17] <livingdaylight__> unop, find ~/music from /home/me$  ?
[02:17] <SurfnKid> unop: argh now i am
[02:17] <jvai> some hardware works nicer than othrs
[02:17] <jordguitar> I went to there site and they didnt have a linux driver.... Wondering if you geniuses made one
[02:17] <kitche> !twinview | BuckWild
[02:17] <ubotu> BuckWild: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:17] <soundray> BuckWild: some nvidia cards don't even support twinview properly. I had that on an Acer laptop.
[02:17] <unop> livingdaylight__,  from anywhere really, it shouldnt matter :)
[02:17] <Skuller> i have a whole list of things to clear up with you people so dont mind my childishness......
[02:17] <unop> SurfnKid,  i just sent you two pms
[02:17] <BuckWild> soundray: it does, it works in windows at least, if I could just get clone to work I'd be happy
[02:17] <francois> hi, anyone here got a cinelerra running on ubuntu ?
[02:17] <livingdaylight__> unop, my /home/conrad/music still has all the music from before, is that right?
[02:17] <BuckWild> soundray: I just have to be able to use my TV in some fashion, that's the whole reason I bought an HDTV
[02:17] <shatrat> jordguitar, its usually best to not get drivers for linux from manufacturer.  I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that that USB wireless adapter works in ubuntu, although you might need to install ndiswrapper for the driver or something.
[02:18] <unop> livingdaylight__,  yep, thats what i was counting on :d
[02:18] <Skuller> firstly....how do i get my name to highlight everytime i get a message aimed at me?
[02:18] <soundray> BuckWild: you mentioned monitor sections. You do need one for each monitor I think.
[02:18] <SurfnKid> unop: me too lol
[02:18] <shatrat> Skuller, I dont know, does it automatically in Xchat
[02:18] <jordguitar> ok wtf is a ndiswrapper
[02:18] <Skuller> i am using xchat but it isnt doing it for me
[02:18] <francois> exit
[02:18] <M_Fatih> i want to add a user with no password how can i set no password, i want to automaticly pass password prompt in "kdesu" how can i do that?
[02:18] <BuckWild> soundray: hmm, yeah maybe that's the issue
[02:18] <jollyroger_> baktaah, I've gotten wireless assistant but it keeps telling me "connection failed".
[02:18] <unop> SurfnKid,  looks good so far -- one last command -- sudo usermod -g www-data $USER
[02:18] <livingdaylight__> unop, so i can 'see' them whwere they were in /home/conrad/music/ but actually they are in /media/multimedia/music which is sda5?
[02:18] <shatrat> jordguitar, its a wrapper for firmware so that you can use firmware from windows drivers to get devicese working in linux.
[02:19] <Quintin> Skuller: use irssi, xchat is crap
[02:19] <Hansel> !cinelerra
[02:19] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[02:19] <unop> livingdaylight__,  you cant have got it more right, thats exactly how it is :)
[02:19] <SurfnKid> unop:  ok
[02:19] <jordguitar> and where do i get it so that i can place it on a cd
[02:19] <Quintin> M_Fatih: just add the user, then 'sudo passwd <user>'
[02:19] <SurfnKid> unop: i get perm. denied
[02:19] <SurfnKid> unop: well it didnt return anything, but couldnt get into the /var/www folder
[02:19] <unop> livingdaylight__,  if you check disk usage now - you should see a lot more freespace for /home :)
[02:20] <livingdaylight__> unop, that's a thing of beauty then , coz i can still just as easily look at my music 'close by' without having to navigate to /media/multimedia/music everytime
[02:20] <livingdaylight__> unop, indeed this is the acid test
[02:20] <jvai> hey every1, whats a good external dvd/r/rw for ubuntu? from bestbuy?
[02:20] <unop> SurfnKid,  log off and log back on -- it should work now
[02:20] <BuckWild> hmm
[02:20] <shatrat> jordguitar, the best way to go would be to hook your PC up to your router with ethernet at least until you get the drivers installed.
[02:20] <rpc> how can i close a single established tcp/ip session that i see via netstat?
[02:20] <SurfnKid> unop: was about to do that :) brb
[02:20] <jordguitar> I cant really do that x.x
[02:20] <M_Fatih> Quintin: it says "No password supplied" i want to set no password
[02:21] <Quintin> jvai: I'll sell you one real cheap <3
[02:21] <unop> livingdaylight__,  cool, now, you can do the same for your other folders too -- movies, pR0n, etc .. :d
[02:21] <Hansel> M Fatih - a passwordless user account?  Tell me why you think that is a good idea.
[02:21] <Quintin> M_Fatih: Type 'sudo su' 'passwd <user>'
[02:21] <jvai> i'm on a thinkpad.. @ quintin
[02:21] <jordguitar> my computer would be either sitting in the catbox or be in pieces in the catbox after it breaks the wood that is holding the router up
[02:21] <Quintin> Hansel: It doesn't matter if it's a good idea or not, that's what the person wants.
[02:21] <livingdaylight__> unop, much better http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4983/
[02:21] <Hansel> So if somebody wants to commit suicide or kill somebody you are going to help them?  Tard...
[02:21] <soundray> BuckWild: at the moment, free software is still in the process of breaking into the mainstream. We're still pioneers if we decide to go with Linux. The fact that you have to bring a little patience and tenacity just comes with the territory.
[02:21] <shatrat> jordguitar, well, there are other ways. you can download the .deb files and copy them over, but it will be annoying.  Dont you have a longer ethernet cable somewhere?
[02:22] <Quintin> Hansel: don't be an idiot, kthnx.
[02:22] <Hansel> Quintin - educate... let's not make insecure boxes floating about the net.
[02:22] <unop> Quintin,  sudo su is errm, redundant -- sudo bash is better .. sudo $SHELL even more so, but the shortcut is  sudo -i
[02:22] <livingdaylight__> unop, well, there isn't that much space in sda5
[02:22] <M_Fatih> Quintin: i did it but it sad "No password supplied"
[02:22] <BuckWild> soundray: I understand all that.  I just, wanted it to actually work this time and it's frustrating.
[02:22] <Quintin> Hansel: How do you even know the box in question is on the net?
[02:22] <livingdaylight__> unop, but it gives me some breathing space
[02:22] <Skuller> where do i get irsso from?
[02:22] <Hansel> Quintin - you probably tell people to install Windows with the main user account as a passwordless admin... you are a tard.  stfu kthx.
[02:22] <LjL> !language | hansel, Quintin
[02:22] <ubotu> hansel, Quintin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:23] <jollyroger_> Can someone help me with my wireless?
[02:23] <Skuller> irrsi i mean....where do i get it from?
[02:23] <jordguitar> I will try to move my computer over there but I just need the site that has the driver. Final question, should I wipe my hard drive and have just linux on it or partition it and have linux and vista on it?
[02:23] <Quintin> M_Fatih: That's odd.  I would guess that ubuntu has a non-standard passwd then.  Add the user, and blank the password in /etc/passwd and maybe /etc/shadow then
[02:23] <livingdaylight__> unop, and for nicotine+ i can carry on downloading music to /home/conrad/music but it'll actually go to sda5 (/media/multimedia/music) is that right aswell?
[02:23] <kitche> Skuller: sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:23] <Quintin> Skuller: 'irssi'.  sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:23] <M_Fatih> Quintin: hmm. i'm trying..
[02:23] <shatrat> jordguitar, well, if you already own vista might as well dual boot.  hate to throw anything away.
[02:23] <unop> livingdaylight__,  well, your disk is simply too small for your liking .. :) time to head on down to tottenham court road :p
[02:23] <Skuller> thnx
[02:24] <livingdaylight__> unop, IMAO
[02:24] <jordguitar> Ok.
[02:24] <unop> livingdaylight__,  yea nicotine+ and whatever else can continue working as normal :)
[02:24] <Hansel> Quintin - I find you presumptuous, asinine, and overall exasperating and decided to tell you about it.
[02:24] <Quintin> jvai: I have a liteon and it works quite well.
[02:24] <LjL> Quintin: nevertheless, it's far from a bad idea to tell users about the risks of doing something (such as having a passwordless account), even if it was they asking
[02:24] <jordguitar> Let me search for that damn driver first so I know where to go when I set it up
[02:24] <soundray> BuckWild: that's why I'm saying this to you. Remind yourself that you're a pioneer and that Ubuntu and Linux are what they are predominantly through volunteer offers which are mostly still ignored, and sometimes fought fervently by those who sold you that DVD and that HD TV.
[02:24] <ldiamond> Can any1 plz help me fix my resolution?
[02:24] <jvai> quintin.. usb connect? got a site i can hava looksee?
[02:24] <soundray> BuckWild: s/offers/efforts/
[02:24] <BuckWild> soundray: well I figured out one problem, it was that I have a DVD-R and DVD-ROM
[02:24] <shatrat> jordguitar, what is the model of your card? Im sure there is a how-to that you can follow to get it going
[02:24] <SurfnKid> unop: ok done.. i checked to see if i could enter into the user/group settings, but its not in the menu
[02:24] <BuckWild> soundray: it plays DVDs from the second drive but not the first
[02:24] <SurfnKid> unop: how do i get that back?
[02:25] <soundray> BuckWild: that helps
[02:25] <jordguitar> wusb54gs
[02:25] <ldiamond> I enabled 1680x1050 in ubuntu, but when i select it it doesnt seem to be 1680x1050
[02:25] <ldiamond> My monitor still says its not the right resolution
[02:25] <Quintin> jvai: what yo uwant to see? :P  it's 16x dvd, 48x cd, black case..
[02:25] <ldiamond> and the image and text look bad
[02:25] <BuckWild> soundray: I'm just guessing here, but does that have anything to do with linux having a /dev/dvd device that's linked symbolically?
[02:25] <shatrat> ldiamond, do you have the proper video card drivers?
[02:25] <jvai> quintin what liteon model?
[02:25] <unop> SurfnKid,  aren't you logging in to the remote machine via SSH ?
[02:25] <jvai> i can atleast google it
[02:25] <soundray> BuckWild: possibly. You can re-link that to the drive you want it to be.
[02:26] <ldiamond> Well I think so
[02:26] <ldiamond> how do i check that out
[02:26] <rocks_port> I'm back
[02:26] <SurfnKid> unop: sure, but it is also being used
[02:26] <BuckWild> soundray: can I link two dvd drives though? how does that work?
[02:26] <rocks_port> I believe that grub is installed
[02:26] <unop> SurfnKid,  so you using X over ssh?
[02:26] <Skuller> how do i use irssi?
[02:26] <SurfnKid> unop: if i understand that correctly yes
[02:26] <Quintin> jvai: shw-1635s
[02:26] <jvai> ok
[02:26] <Quintin> Skuller: open a terminal and type 'irssi' ....
[02:27] <rocks_port> however, nothing starts
[02:27] <SurfnKid> X from my laptop to this one via ssh
[02:27] <shatrat> jordguitar, yeah, you are gonna need ndiswrapper.  I founda  how-to to get your wusb54gs going, but it will be a real pain without internet access.
[02:27] <Skuller> i did that...and then what?
[02:27] <rocks_port> it's just a black screen and my computer does nothing....
[02:27] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, errm, what happens when you type this at the command line -- gksudo users-admin ?
[02:27] <soundray> BuckWild: not sure, but you could try making a /dev/dvd0 in addition to your /dev/dvd, or you could delete /dev/dvd and make /dev/dvd0 and /dev/dvd1
[02:27] <SurfnKid> unop: im not too familiar with the whole X over ssh yet :P
[02:27] <ldiamond> shatrat, how do i see what driver i have?
[02:27] <lordkeiden> what is a good firewall that has a good gui for admin/config?
[02:27] <jordguitar> I will be moving my computer.
[02:27] <Quintin> Skuller: /connect irc.freenode.net | /join #ubuntu | /join #irssi
[02:27] <soundray> BuckWild: the command to make a softlink is ln -s
[02:27] <livingdaylight__> unop, don't know how to thank you - thank you
[02:27] <Quintin> lordkeiden: firestarter.  google would have told you this.
[02:27] <jordguitar> So all I need is the url so that I can slap it in
[02:27] <unop> SurfnKid,  well, i just had to make sure that you are working on the remote machine and not on the local one :p
[02:28] <unop> livingdaylight__, you already have :) you're welcome
[02:28] <jvai> ooo @ quintin.. that liteon has a fat arse!!!
[02:28] <BuckWild> soundray: hmm, k, maybe I'll just use it out of the second drive... hehe
[02:28] <shatrat> ldiamond, well, if you have direct rendering: yes in your glxinfo then it is usually a good sign that everything is ok
[02:28] <SurfnKid> unop: oh right, nah im on the remote one. i ran it and returned it got an error, i couldnt execute this task
[02:28] <M_Fatih> how must i change /etc/shaddow to set no-password[ed]  user? null not works
[02:28] <BuckWild> soundray: cuz at least mplayer looks in just one location, so I don't see how making two will work there
[02:28] <Quintin> jvai: it's normal size external optical drive
[02:28] <shatrat> jordguitar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206  , its kind of old but it should still work.
[02:28] <Quintin> M_Fatih: blank it
[02:28] <unop> livingdaylight__,  now you have another 12G of space for your music -- :)  you going to keep your other multimedia (movies, etc) in /home?
[02:28] <jollyroger> Ok xchat does suck.
[02:29] <unop> SurfnKid,  whats the exact error?
[02:29] <SurfnKid> unop: can you set it back to the way it was maybe my idea isnt supported since its X over ssh
[02:29] <Quintin> M_Fatih: you could also try 'adduser' to create a user... and put in blank pw
[02:29] <Erb> Is is possible to set an application to always "On Top" by default?
[02:29] <shatrat> jordguitar, actually its been kept up to date and should even work with feisty, so yeah, bookmark that how-to
[02:29] <Quintin> jollyroger: you want a medal? :P
[02:29] <MajorPayne> How do I upgrade to KTorrent 2.1rc1 with backports?
[02:29] <SurfnKid> unop: its in spanish, ill try to translate " Cant Execute users-admin"
[02:29] <jollyroger> Yes please.
[02:29] <FantasticFoo> hi. i used to have dapper installed on my dell inspiron 2200 laptop computer, but took it off. i recently burned an edgy cd, and used it to install edgy on my desktop machine. when i try to use it to install edgy on my inspiron 2200, edgy loads up, but as soon as i double-click the "install" icon it just hangs there and sorta freezes up
[02:29] <ldiamond> shatrat: what am i looking for there?
[02:29] <jordguitar> Ok.
[02:29] <FantasticFoo> can anyone help? i really want to get edgy on my laptop
[02:29] <soundray> BuckWild: I'm only guessing
[02:29] <shatrat> ldiamond, try glxinfo|grep rendering, it will tell you yes or no.
[02:29] <jordguitar> Will I be able to acess it from ubuntu after I restart my system?
[02:29] <jrib> FantasticFoo: I would try an alternate cd
[02:30] <M_Fatih> Quintin: i tried but not works :(
[02:30] <jordguitar> cant you tell that i am totally lost?
[02:30] <FantasticFoo> jrib: alternate?
[02:30] <Skuller> regarding irssi...i cant seem to join...it says eraneous nickname
[02:30] <jrib> !alternate | FantasticFoo
[02:30] <ubotu> FantasticFoo: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:30] <SurfnKid> unop: big red Prohibited sign, says" the mechanism for authorization does not allow to execute this program, Contact the System Administrator"
[02:30] <BuckWild> soundray: that's fine, I'll use the bottom drive for watching DVDs, that's not that horrifying of a workaround, I can live with that
[02:30] <jollyroger> Can someone help me with my wireless.
[02:30] <Quintin> FantasticFoo: Boot with 'acpi=off' in safe graphics mode.  try the alternate install disc.  or just install 606 and upgrade to 610
[02:30] <ldiamond> It says yes
[02:30] <MajorPayne> How do I upgrade to KTorrent 2.1rc1 with backports?
[02:30] <unop> SurfnKid,  effectively all i have done is add your user to the www-data groups -- i did screw up with usermod but then i restored your group membership - i'm trying now to ascertain why you arent able to see menu items
[02:30] <M_Fatih> i want to pass automaticly kdesu's password prompt actually
[02:30] <lordkeiden> what is a good firewall that has a good gui for admin/config?
[02:30] <shatrat> jordguitar, well, you can access your windows partition but it will be a pain looking for the bookmark.  if you search for your adapter on ubuntuforums.org though you should find the how-to, no swat
[02:30] <FantasticFoo> Quintin: i'
[02:30] <jordguitar> Ok.
[02:30] <jrib> lordkeiden: firestarter
[02:30] <ldiamond> shatrat: it says yes
[02:30] <FantasticFoo> Quintin: i've already tried upgrading from dapper, and it messes everything up
[02:31] <unop> SurfnKid,  are you sure you are using "gksudo" there?    gksudo users-admin ?
[02:31] <M_Fatih> i want to pass automaticly kdesu's password prompt actually, how can i do that? (no-password not works :( )
[02:31] <shatrat> ldiamond, well, it seems you have the right driver.  Could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for me?
[02:31] <FantasticFoo> Quintin: how do i boot with "acpi=off"?
[02:31] <jrib> lordkeiden: well firestarter is a good gui for iptables
[02:31] <MajorPayne> How do I upgrade to KTorrent 2.1rc1 with backports?
[02:31] <Quintin> FantasticFoo: messes everything up *how*.  it works fine for me. you pass that as boot parameter to the kernel.
[02:31] <SurfnKid> unop: can you reverse the www-data command that was put on earlier, maybe if i put it back itll all be back to normal
[02:31] <apelsinchoklad__> I have started the install-cd on my old imac 233mhz, 160mb ram... but the screen is just black.. i have change to the console mode now... but what should i write to see something when i turn back to the desktop???
[02:31] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah gksudo
[02:31] <shatrat> M_Fatih, thats a bad idea, you can increase the time-out on it if you like but there are reasons it is the way it is.
[02:31] <SurfnKid> gksudo users-admin
[02:31] <FantasticFoo> Quintin: sorry, i'm kind of a noob... how exactly do i do that?
[02:31] <soundray> BuckWild: excellent. Re. twinview -- hope you get it sorted out. I've seen a good guide and sample xorg.conf somewhere on the web -- I think it was a Gentoo site.
[02:31] <Quintin> apelsinchoklad__: Use the alternate install disc, please.
[02:31] <jordguitar> So partition my hard drive and install ubuntu. How long will the partitioning phase take?
[02:32] <Quintin> FantasticFoo: f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 f7 at boot of the cd should tell
[02:32] <Quintin> jordguitar: seven hours.
[02:32] <shatrat> jordguitar, depends on the size and speed of the drive, a matter of minutes generally.
[02:32] <jollyroger> jorduitar, depends on drive size
[02:32] <SurfnKid> Quintin: lol
[02:32] <Quintin> might be *days*
[02:32] <BuckWild> soundray: I've noticed to force the TV to be the main display device does seem to work but it has problems finding a workable resolution at first, maybe that has something to do with it
[02:32] <soundray> BuckWild: yeah, found it: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[02:32] <jordguitar> I hate you Quintin :D
[02:32] <unop> SurfnKid,  the www-data group shouldnt have bearing on this -- can you paste the output of id again to verify that the commands i gave you did indeed run
[02:32] <shoumik> Hi i was wondering on how to download firefox
[02:32] <jollyroger> Does anyone know how to setup wireless?
[02:33] <ldiamond> shatrat :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4984/
[02:33] <ldiamond> shatrat : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4984/
[02:33] <SurfnKid> unop: sure no probs hang on
[02:33] <LjL> jordguitar, if you have Windows or such partitions that you need to shrink, it can take long. otherwise it's unlikely to.
[02:33] <jollyroger> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:33] <MajorPayne> How do I upgrade to KTorrent 2.1rc1 with backports?
[02:33] <Quintin> jordguitar: don't ask stupid questions, maybe. :P  is it a shiny new SATA drive?  a 4.76 drive from eight years ago... ?  htfsik
[02:33] <soundray> BuckWild: anyway, I have to leave you to it now. Good luck
[02:33] <jordguitar> plz kill yourself... Ok well back to busness... If it takes longer than 2 hours... I should know that I have a problem... right?
[02:33] <Skuller> k i think ill stick to Xchat...is there any way to get the messages aimed at u to get highlighted in it?
[02:33] <Quintin> jollyroger: yes
[02:33] <BuckWild> soundray: alright, thanks
[02:33] <shatrat> shoumik, well you should have it already installed.  If you want the latest firefox /msg ubotu firefox and ubotu will tell you
[02:33] <apelsinchoklad__> Quintin: where do I find it??
[02:33] <Quintin> jollyroger: are you trying to resize a ntfs partition?
[02:33] <jollyroger> Nol
[02:33] <shoumik> i took it out, b/c it was messing up on me
[02:33] <jollyroger> No*
[02:33] <Quintin> jollyroger: might be a problem
[02:33] <jollyroger> How so?
[02:33] <Quintin> Skuller: /join #xchat
[02:34] <shoumik> then i re downloaded but i don't know how to handle .tar.gz files.
[02:34] <SurfnKid>  /j #australia
[02:34] <LjL> !tar | shoumik
[02:34] <ubotu> shoumik: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:34] <Quintin> jollyroger: Shouldn't take more than ten minutes to partition and format even an old disk.
[02:34] <shoumik> kk
[02:34] <shatrat> ldiamond, im looking at it, dont see anything different from mine yet...
[02:34] <jollyroger> Yeah I know.
[02:34] <cafuego_> you can't join australia, we're full. queue jumper. :-P
[02:34] <jordguitar> If it takes more than 2 hours to partition, I should stop it or let it keep going?
[02:34] <jollyroger> I need help with wireless.
[02:34] <Quintin> jollyroger: Ask your question already!!
[02:35] <SurfnKid> unop: check pm
[02:35] <LjL> jordguitar: if you aren't going to resize any pre-existing partitions, partitioning won't take long *at all*, period
[02:35] <apelsinchoklad__> Quintin: I just find one istalldisk for macs... link?
[02:35] <unop> SurfnKid,  ohh ouch, i just closed that tab .. paste again please :p
[02:35] <LjL> jordguitar: if you're resizing partitions, then no matter how long it takes, *never stop it*
[02:35] <SurfnKid> heh lol
[02:35] <jollyroger> I can't connect.  I have wireless assistant and it says connection failed.
[02:35] <apelsinchoklad__> Quintin: sorry.. find it.
[02:35] <jordguitar> I got a old partition....aparently... from the vista install. should I panick now?
[02:35] <unop> SurfnKid,  i had some output from you there but wasnt sure if it was from a previous paste :)
[02:35] <jordguitar> panic*
[02:36] <LjL> jordguitar: do you need to resize it to make space for a new partition for Ubuntu? if not, no.
[02:36] <cafuego_> jordguitar: if you have vista, panic. yes.
[02:36] <shatrat> ldiamond, I really cant find anything that might be a problem. You might want to check http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:36] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah had a previous VT still logged on, was not aware of it
[02:36] <Quintin> jordguitar: I would zero the hard disk and start over.
[02:36] <jordguitar> I did that already
[02:36] <nanothief> i want to move my second (linux) partition to the first partition position, but I'm scared that while moving it I'll get a blackout. Is there anyway to do a backup beforehand? I've got a second, empty hd.
[02:36] <SurfnKid> unop: check Surfnkid   not SurfnKid_
[02:36] <FantasticFoo> Quintin: it says "type it in at the prompt" but there really is no prompt
[02:36] <jordguitar> i am not listening to you quinton
[02:36] <LjL> well, maybe. cafuego_, care to elaborate? i've heard something about vista and partitioning, but i'm not quite sure.
[02:36] <Quintin> nanothief: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb
[02:36] <jordguitar> >:(
[02:36] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea, got it -- hmm, that output's not right again -- hold on :p :)
[02:37] <SurfnKid> ok
[02:37] <onlybui> anyone know if iptables is installed on ubuntu and all ports are blocked?
[02:37] <nanothief> Quintin: what does that do?
[02:37] <jordguitar> apparently it is called Windows.Old
[02:37] <SurfnKid> onlybui: to my knowledge it is installed by default
[02:37] <LjL> onlybui: yes, iptables is installed by default, no, no ports are blocked by default
[02:37] <cafuego_> LjL: if you have vista, you either bought a new machine this week OR you went and paid for it OR you pirated it.
[02:37] <cafuego_> LjL: 2 out of 3 is bad.
[02:37] <shatrat> nanothief, that copies hda to hdb exactly
[02:37] <jordguitar> I paid for my vista
[02:37] <nanothief> ok thanks
[02:37] <Quintin> nanothief: what does what do
[02:37] <shatrat> jordguitar, im sorry to hear that.
[02:37] <cafuego_> jordguitar: that's still not a good thing.
[02:38] <onlybui> I have a Nat problem with azureus and the wiki says that I need to open the ports using ubuntu
[02:38] <SurfnKid> jordguitar: you paid for my sista??? wtf
[02:38] <SurfnKid> :P
[02:38] <LjL> cafuego_: the first two? *chuckle* but no, really, does vista do anything tricky with partitioning?
[02:38] <jollyroger> I can't connect to my wireless connection.  I have wireless assistant and it says connection failed. What should I do?
[02:38] <cafuego_> LjL: To clarify, I;'ve not heard firsthand of any technical issues in dual booting it, but then I have gone out of my way to avoid eharing about any issues relating to vista.
[02:38] <Quintin> jvai: find one yet?
[02:38] <Erb> Is is possible to set an application to always "On Top" by default? Is this an X setting?
[02:38] <LjL> cafuego_: i see :)
[02:38] <Mena>  i have a problem while using another languges like a arabic and the problem is when i make a folder and its name in arabic through kubuntu when i open Xp i found its name un readable any idea
[02:38] <onlybui> http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem says to do this  iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport <60259> -j ACCEPT
[02:38] <onlybui> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `60259'
[02:38] <unop> SurfnKid,  sudo usermod -G adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,sx270 $USER
[02:38] <Quintin> nanothief: man dd
[02:39] <SurfnKid> Erb: you can set it "on top" just not sure if by default
[02:39] <onlybui> but I get a bash error
[02:39] <shatrat> jollyroger, I had much better luck with network-manager-gnome, and really "failed" could mean a lot of things
[02:39] <shoumik> execuse me where can i locate file roller
[02:39] <cafuego_> LjL: To the point where I'll probably have to say "sorry, but I won't support you" if someone turns up with a vista+anything problem.
[02:39] <Quintin> jollyroger: are you using a supported chipset?
[02:39] <jordguitar> Should I just take a "nuke" to my hard drive and have it blank and install ubunto on a blank hard drive?
[02:39] <unop> shoumik,  at a terminal - which file-roller
[02:39] <xtknight> ive dual booted vista with linux no problem
[02:39] <jollyroger> shoumik how did you get it to work?
[02:39] <xtknight> seems to use standard bootsector
[02:39] <shoumik> get what to work?
[02:39] <xtknight> unless you're using bitlocker
[02:39] <jollyroger> Sorry shatrat.
[02:39] <Quintin> Erb: depends on what wm  you are using
[02:39] <jordguitar> How easy is it to doal boot
[02:39] <SurfnKid> unop: done, didnt return anything  log out?
[02:39] <onlybui> so fresh installed Ubuntu all ports are open?
[02:39] <Erb> SurfnKid: I am aware of "On Top" but I need it to be enabled when certain applications are launched.
[02:40] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea, to be safe
[02:40] <SurfnKid> unop: okies
[02:40] <shatrat> jordguitar, thats easier, but then youre gonna have trouble dual booting.  Dual booting is easy with every OS I have tried, I havent tried vista.
[02:40] <MajorPayne> I just installed a newer version of a package with a deb and dpkg, will the package get upgraded automatically when a newer one is out?
[02:40] <SurfnKid> Erb: hmm that would be nice actually to find out
[02:40] <SurfnKid> brb
[02:40] <shatrat> jordguitar, you might try googling "dual boot ubuntu vista"
[02:40] <EmoBear> 
[02:40] <Erb> Quintin: WM?
[02:40] <shoumik> execuse me where can i locate file roller
[02:40] <Quintin> jordguitar: I think I told you that 1/2 hour ago.
[02:40] <unop> MajorPayne,  yes
[02:40] <MajorPayne> unop: Thanks
[02:40] <Xenguy> shoumik: install?
[02:40] <jordguitar> omg hahahaha
[02:40] <shoumik> no
[02:40] <mzanfardino> is there such a thing as defragmenting a drive under ubuntu?
[02:40] <shoumik> it's installed
[02:40] <Skuller> lol...it was stupid of me...the name were being highlighted n not the whole line.....sorry
[02:40] <jordguitar> on the ubuntu forums
[02:41] <shoumik> but i can't seem to find it?
[02:41] <ardchoille> shoumik: You may need to open alacarte and enable file-roller in the menus before you can see it.
[02:41] <shoumik> kk
[02:41] <shatrat> mzanfardino, good filesystems dont need defragged.
[02:41] <Quintin> does anyone know of a good utility to help in calibrating high-end CRT monitors?
[02:41] <jordguitar> Oh fu**
[02:41] <mzanfardino> shatrat, that's what I thought, but I'm noticing a slow-down in performance and my first thought was defrag...
[02:41] <slvmchn> i have a simple question, now i updated from dapper to edgy when i shutdown, i get the screen with "ubuntu" and the bar that fills out, but then it doesn't turn off the machine
[02:41] <Xenguy> shoumik: yes, or: find / -iname filerol |grep bin
[02:41] <slvmchn> i have to manually hit the power button
[02:41] <jordguitar> the tutorial is installing vista on a hard drive that has Ubuntu on it
[02:41] <jordguitar> DAMN YOU GOOGLE
[02:41] <slvmchn> is there a way to actually shut down the machine when i hit "shut down"
[02:42] <mzuverink> I have freedroid working off the repos, but notice that freedroidrpg is not available, wonder why???  Anyways when attempting to compile it says cant find sdl.  Where are these libs found?
[02:42] <Music_Shuffle> !ohmy
[02:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:42] <SurfnKid> unop: logged back in and checked the menus, they are still not all visible
[02:42] <kitche> !caps
[02:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:42] <Baoss> hello
[02:42] <jimpop> what is going on with all the Edgy updates today... but no email announcements?
[02:42] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[02:42] <Baoss> i need help
[02:42] <kitche> !ask | Baoss
[02:42] <ubotu> Baoss: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:42] <Baoss> CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW SHOULD I GET MEGAUPLOAD FOR LINUX?
[02:42] <Xenguy> go LjL
[02:43] <LjL> !traffic
[02:43] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[02:43] <ardchoille> We need a sign at the door "No toddlers allowed" lol
[02:43] <unop> SurfnKid,  bahh ..these kids arent helping either -- paste id again please
[02:43] <Xenguy> ardchoille: egos, bah :-)
[02:44] <SurfnKid> unop: sure
[02:44] <slvmchn> how do i shut down my machine fully? when i shutdown, it goes to the ubuntu screen and the bar fills up, but then it just sits there and i have to manually hit the power button - any way to have it automatically shutdown for me? this is only since i updated to edgy recently, in dapper it would shut down fully
[02:44] <jvai> what was that? & how does it happen?
[02:44] <Sanne> mzuverink: if you compile things, you generally need the *-dev packages of the libs it complains about. Search in synaptiv for something like libsdl*-dev
[02:44] <brainsik> gotta love that ubotu tells you there's a lot of traffic by dumping that huge message
[02:44] <kitche> Sanne: he;s not here right now
[02:44] <Xenguy> slvmchn: shutdown -h now
[02:44] <Sanne> kitche: oh! Thanks :)
[02:45] <Xenguy> slvmchn: the 'h' stands for 'halt'
[02:45] <SurfnKid> unop: uid=1000(sx270) gid=1000(sx270) grupos=33(www-data),1000(sx270)
[02:45] <cchance> (b) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/ (/b)
[02:45] <jordguitar> Ok.... I am clearing my hard drive to install ubuntu. Going to hold out on vista untill it becomes more stable. How long will it take for ubuntu to clear out my hard drive?
[02:45] <aldyrin> question: I just installed ubuntu for the first time, and I wanted to install Beryl. I'm new to linux and don't really know where to start.
[02:45] <Baoss> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME WITH MEGAUPLOAD?
[02:46] <SurfnKid> Baoss: sure, kill the caps :)
[02:46] <LjL> !caps | Baoss
[02:46] <ubotu> Baoss: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:46] <Erb> Is there a channel for X?
[02:46] <jimpop> what is going on with all the Edgy updates today... but no email announcements?
[02:46] <cchance> Any one good with networks???????? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/
[02:46] <cafuego_> jimpop: boken kernel update got fixed?
[02:46] <kitche> Baoss: what about megaupload?
[02:46] <Baoss> UBOTU THATS MY STYLE, IF U DONT LIKE IT DONT READ IT
[02:46] <yellow> does anyone have any suggestion for audio broadcast software ?
[02:46] <shatrat> banstick?
[02:47] <jordguitar> yes..banstick him
[02:47] <jimpop> cafuego_: thx
[02:47] <Quintin> lost link, if you sent me msg, please repeat
[02:47] <kitche> yellow: depends what do you want to broadcast to?
[02:47] <cafuego_> jimpop: just guessing
[02:47] <jordguitar> How long will it take to wipe my hard drive with ubuntu doing it?
[02:47] <Skuller> ok i have an adsl modem thru wich i connect to the net using a UN and Password which i have to enter in the pppoeconf....how can i setup 2 accounts so i can just use diff accounts whenever i want to rather than manually changing the default UN and PW?
[02:47] <jimpop> cafuego_: i just like to see an official announcement before installing them
[02:47] <jvai> quintin wb, i'm thinkin on an ibm thinkpad externl dvd/rw, i'll have to lay a pretty penny on it tho
[02:48] <cafuego_> jordguitar: Depends, in between 1 second and several hours.
[02:48] <SurfnKid> unop: doesnt look like it changed
[02:48] <shatrat> jordguitar, not as long as youve been in here talking about it ;)
[02:48] <yellow> kitche, internet ?
[02:48] <kitche> yellow: like what though shoutcast, etc
[02:48] <cafuego_> jordguitar: There's simply telling the disk there are no filesystems (1 second) and doing multiple overwrites with random data (hours).
[02:48] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea, try it again - sudo usermod -G adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,sx270 $USER
[02:49] <cchance> Any one good with networks???????? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/
[02:49] <jordguitar> Ok... I will take my computer into my living room and move the interwebs there so I wont be near the stinky cat box and will do that. If there is a problem, I will get on mIRC again.
[02:49] <yellow> kitche, uhm what do you mean through shoutcast ? can i do it without shoutcast ?
[02:49] <jordguitar> Thanks for the help :D
[02:49] <shatrat> jordguitar, one sec
[02:49] <Quintin> jvai: does your laptop have usb2?
[02:49] <shatrat> jordguitar, this might help you too, http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-desktop-installation-with-screenshots.html
[02:49] <yellow> kitche, i just want something for a small number of people to listen to
[02:49] <cchance> ljl, any good with networks?
[02:49] <kitche> yellow: yes but hard to help you for streaming audio and such if you don't know what you want to stream to
[02:49] <jvai> yea, it does thinkpad t40 da booomb
[02:49] <shatrat> jordguitar, although if youve only got the one PC, I guess theres no way to look at it while installing
[02:50] <kitche> yellow: then maybe icecast it's just like shoutcast
[02:50] <LjL> cchance: something more specific please
[02:50] <cchance> ljl, Any one good with networks???????? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4972/
[02:50] <Skuller> ok i have an adsl modem thru wich i connect to the net using a UN and Password which i have to enter in the pppoeconf....how can i setup 2 accounts so i can just use diff accounts whenever i want to rather than manually changing the default UN and PW?
[02:50] <bruenig> !repeat | cchance
[02:50] <ubotu> cchance: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:50] <jordguitar> I got another one.. But it is fucking slow
[02:50] <yellow> kitche, ok so icecast should work ?
[02:50] <jordguitar> should help
[02:50] <Quintin> LjL: he linked to a paste.
[02:50] <yellow> kitche, and i can listen from a browser ?
[02:50] <SurfnKid> unop: nothing
[02:50] <kitche> yellow: well you need a player to listen
[02:50] <SurfnKid> unop: the menu isnt visible
[02:50] <jordguitar> Ok. that should help alot.
[02:51] <unop> SurfnKid,  but does the command succeed?
[02:51] <SurfnKid> leme check
[02:51] <jordguitar> going to leave in 1 min. anything else before i leave?
[02:51] <jvai> an ibm thinkad t40 w/ an externl dvd/rw & gnomebaker.. thye gonna come aftr me.. (the riaa, miaa or whatever)
[02:51] <shatrat> jordguitar, good luck, im gonna go get wasted
[02:51] <SurfnKid> unop: still cant execute
[02:51] <shoumik> How do you download a tar.gz file?
[02:51] <SurfnKid> unop: oh wait, i need sudo dont i?
[02:51] <SurfnKid> :/
[02:51] <bruenig> shoumik, you can wget if you want
[02:51] <unop> SurfnKid, it's sudo that needs to succeed
[02:51] <yellow> kitche, you mean for example winmedia player plugins, etcs or other plugins for the browser ?
[02:51] <jordguitar> Ok then. Bye for now.
[02:52] <shoumik> how do u get that?
[02:52] <shoumik> wget?
[02:52] <SurfnKid> unop: hmmm do i run sudo gksudo users-admin though?
[02:52] <Skuller> do i need to get drivers for my motherboard chipset, audio, etc. even tho ubuntu detects them?
[02:52] <shoumik> synaptic?
[02:52] <cchance> ljl, i take it you dont?
[02:52] <cafuego_> all teh cool kids are doing it
[02:52] <bruenig> shoumik, to download a tar.gz, just download it in the browser
[02:52] <SurfnKid> unop: oh i get what you mean, cuz im on the GUI
[02:52] <unop> SurfnKid,  gksudo users-admin should be enough
[02:52] <SurfnKid> right
[02:52] <ldiamond> Hey
[02:52] <kitche> yellow need a player like xmms, mplayer vlc
[02:52] <shoumik> what do u mean download it in the browser?
[02:53] <ldiamond> Can any1 help me out? Im having problems with resolution and videoplayback
[02:53] <unop> SurfnKid,  gksudo is the GUI equivalent to sudo
[02:53] <bruenig> Skuller, is it all working?
[02:53] <LjL> cchance: quite correct. i'd have to sit on the iptables manpage a little, and right now's not really the best time i'm afraid
[02:53] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah i just remembered
[02:53] <shoumik> bruenig: what do u mean download it in the browser?
[02:53] <Skuller> brue i can hear audio....how will i know i need shipset drivers?
[02:53] <cchance> ljl, np
[02:53] <yellow> kitche, xmms and mplayer on windows ?
[02:53] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, well, i was interested in how the sudo usermod .. command fared really?
[02:53] <bruenig> shoumik, what tar.gz file are you trying to get?
[02:53] <cchance> ljl, whats the url for that
[02:54] <shoumik> firefox
[02:54] <kitche> yellow: winamp media player can be used on windows or even vlc
[02:54] <yellow> kitche, my listeners have never heard of linux
[02:54] <yellow> :)
[02:54] <SurfnKid> unop: hmm well it doesnt return anything once i enter the command, just returns the prompt
[02:54] <LjL> cchance: for what?
[02:54] <cchance> ljl, iptables
[02:54] <shoumik> firefox
[02:54] <bruenig> shoumik, go to here, and click download, http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
[02:54] <kitche> yellow: also mplayer has a windows version
[02:54] <shoumik> i have
[02:54] <yellow> kitche, cool
[02:54] <shoumik> and i have extracted it
[02:54] <LjL> cchance, URL? i said manpage. that is,  man iptables  on a shell.
[02:54] <bruenig> shoumik, you just asked how to download a tar.gz
[02:54] <shoumik> thats as far as i have gottend
[02:54] <shoumik> o
[02:54] <cchance> ljl, right
[02:55] <unop> SurfnKid,  and this command is  "gksudo users-admin" ?? the one that just returns to the prompt?
[02:55] <shoumik> well the whole thing i uess
[02:55] <shoumik> guess
[02:55] <LjL> !enter
[02:55] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:55] <yellow> kitche, so i get icecast, run it, and the other end, they use mplayer or winamp to play ?
[02:55] <lipe_> How can i config the xorg.conf to use optical mouse ?! Please !!
[02:55] <shoumik> how to unpack source and stuff
[02:55] <bruenig> shoumik, that is the whole thing. Once you extract it, just click on the firefox script in the extracted directory to run it
[02:55] <kitche> yellow yep they need the ip of course though
[02:55] <mzuverink> where are the edgy sdl packages hide attempting to compile freedroidrpg returns no sdl found?
[02:55] <doc|> any channel for mp3 ?? on freenode
[02:55] <shoumik> run it in terminal?
[02:55] <shoumik> kk
[02:55] <bruenig> shoumik, run it or click on it if you want
[02:55] <SurfnKid> unop: oh no i mean, the usermod admin and all that stuff with $USER at the end. that returns me to the prompt, then i enter gksudo users-admin and I get a window with the same cant execute this task error
[02:55] <yellow> kitche, cool, let me try to get icecast running first, thanks!
[02:56] <cchance> ljl, could i use firestarter
[02:56] <Sanne> Skuller: the Linux kernel has most drivers for your hardware included and will load those that are needed. It's only if the hardware company won't give info on hardware or has closed drivers that you would need to do something manually.
[02:56] <ldiamond> Can any1 help me fix my video settings? I have problems with video playback and with resolutions
[02:56] <unop> SurfnKid,  hmm, thats so odd, because if the command succeeds, the group membership should have changed
[02:56] <SurfnKid> unop: oh wait sx270 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[02:56] <cafuego_> mzuverink: libSDL
[02:56] <shoumik> ummm nothing is running
[02:56] <cafuego_> mzuverink: case sensitive
[02:56] <unop> SurfnKid, youch.. :| not good
[02:56] <mzuverink> cafuego, ok, thnx
[02:56] <LjL> cchance: seriously, i don't know what those iptables lines *do*. and i don't know how flexible firestarter is, for that matter
[02:56] <ldiamond> I have a 1680x1050 monitor. At first this resolution wasnt enabled, i added it to xorg.conf and now its enabled, but my monitor does not recognize it as 1680x1050, and the text looks really bad
[02:57] <QRZ> cchance: What are you trying to do?  I looked at the paste but it's a little vague...
[02:57] <lipe_> How can i config the xorg.conf to use optical mouse ?! Please !!
[02:57] <bruenig> shoumik, where did you extract it?
[02:57] <shoumik> desktop
[02:57] <SurfnKid> unop: yea i noticed well so how can it be set back? sx270 is the admin account
[02:57] <Skuller> sanne, thnx....and wt about my NVIDIA GPU?
[02:57] <cafuego_> Actually, I'm full of crap. They're just libsdl-*
[02:57] <bruenig> shoumik, do this, ~/Desktop/firefox/firefox
[02:57] <cables> Idiamond, are you usinga VGA connection?
[02:57] <Skuller> i mean its drivers
[02:57] <ldiamond> yes
[02:57] <Sanne> Skuller: this is one of those occasions where you need to do something ;). I'll get you a link, sec.
[02:57] <ldiamond> but in windows its all fine
[02:57] <cables> Idiamond, does your monitor have an auto-adjust function?
[02:57] <mzuverink> cafuego, says not found
[02:57] <cchance> qrz, make the lines aply for my networked computers as well. For them to follow the same rules connecting to my pc. Basicaly i want them to go through dansguardian insted of the internet
[02:58] <ldiamond> yes, and it does auto adjust
[02:58] <Skuller> sanne, hehe...thnx..
[02:58] <ldiamond> but it still says the resolution isnt 1680x1050
[02:58] <cables> Idiamond, there's lots of stuff in Xorg for sync and stuff for analog connections, but I don't know how to deal with that.
[02:58] <Sanne> Skuller: try this, and ask if you need help along the way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:58] <unop> SurfnKid, this is not good at all, to use sudo, you need to be in the admin group .. but thats not the case now :(
[02:58] <cafuego_> !info libsdl1.2-dev edgy
[02:58] <ubotu> libsdl1.2-dev: Simple DirectMedia Layer development files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 708 kB, installed size 2756 kB
[02:58] <SurfnKid> unop: so im pretty much in an unadministratible system
[02:59] <cafuego_> mzuverink: it's *really* there
[02:59] <SurfnKid> oh man
[02:59] <bruenig> shoumik, what is the result of that?
[02:59] <SurfnKid> for real?
[02:59] <cables> SurfnKid, if you're locked out of Root, boot in recovery mode. That should give you a root terminal.
[02:59] <unop> SurfnKid,  I'm so sorry if I did this (it wasnt intentional) ,, you should be able to boot into recovery mode and edit the /etc/groups file using nano -- quick things to do
[02:59] <mzuverink> cafuego, found it in synaptic, thanks
[02:59] <QRZ> cchance: It appears as though you are trying to limit access to some ports based on the uid of the calling process.  That is probably NOT what you want to do.  If all you are after is a simple redirect, I can help.  If you are after something more, tell me.
[02:59] <SurfnKid> cables: sure but i dont know if i can get the wlan-ng driver running for the wifi access to the internet
[02:59] <ldiamond> But it seems like eventho i select 1680x1050, its not really sending that resolution to the monitor
[03:00] <shoumik> Hey can u c this, this is the message im getting
[03:00] <shoumik> http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8209/screenshotbr1.png
[03:00] <SurfnKid> unop: well thats a solution, its not all lost :)
[03:00] <cables> SurfnKid, i think getting admin access to your computer is the first step :)
[03:00] <SurfnKid> unop: i thought it was all lost
[03:00] <cchance> Qrz, i followed a web page on this and i think its all redirect so yeah thats it
[03:00] <ldiamond> I saw something about AGPART somewhere
[03:00] <ldiamond> that should be NVIDIA instead
[03:00] <SurfnKid> cables: yeah i thought i needed that first :P
[03:00] <ldiamond> but i dont remember where
[03:00] <unop> SurfnKid,  well unadministerable only from the current runlevel .. if you get to runlevel 1, it's recoverable
[03:00] <SurfnKid> unop: cables ok brb let me try to get into safe mode with my wifi card
[03:00] <cables> Speaking of which, isn't it a big risk if anyone with access to the system can just boot in recovery mode?
[03:00] <shoumik> heloo?
[03:00] <SurfnKid> unop: wicked brb
[03:00] <unop> SurfnKid,  i dunno how that happened -- but i must be to blame .. i'm terribly sorry
[03:01] <shoumik> http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8209/screenshotbr1.png???????
[03:01] <QRZ> cchance: Ok.  Standby a sec...
[03:01] <bruenig> shoumik, you should really resize that names list on the right
[03:01] <SurfnKid> unop: its ok at least you know, many just run off lol
[03:01] <SurfnKid> brb
[03:01] <kitche> cables: well it's a risk for just having someone able to get physical access to a computer so recovery mode is not a big deal
[03:01] <shoumik> right
[03:01] <shoumik> so did u c
[03:01] <junmin> hi, guys, i get this warning and trying to reinstall this package, but can not, what should i do?? --- dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xserver-xorg-video-vmware' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[03:01] <cables> kitche, yes, but what's the point of having different user levels then?
[03:02] <unop> SurfnKid,  but you're in a fix here arent you? isnt this machine at a remote location?
[03:02] <bruenig> shoumik, segfault. Don't know how to fix that. Seems odd that it would do that seeing as you have firefox installed already therefore theoretically meeting all dependencies and such
[03:02] <cables> kitche, I guess if someone's smart enough to get into GRUB and screw things up, they're smart enough to screw things up via liveCD.
[03:02] <kitche> cables: they do different things
[03:03] <shoumik> i deleted firefox at opt then downloaded firefox again would that make a difference?
[03:03] <unop> you dont have to be smart to wreck a system but you'd have to be terribly stupid to try :)
[03:03] <cables> shoumik, how did you delete it?
[03:03] <shoumik> through terminal
[03:03] <cables> kitche, you can change important files via a Linux LIveCD, and you can change important files via root in Recovery mode. That's all I'm saying.
[03:03] <shoumik> some sudo comand
[03:03] <cables> shoumik, with apt-get? Aptitude?
[03:03] <bruenig> shoumik, why did you delete it if you were just going to redownload it?
[03:03] <SurfnKid> hmmm, the driver loaded, phew... nice... ok im back!
[03:04] <shoumik> because it was messing up on me
[03:04] <shoumik> it wouldn't open when i clicked on it
[03:04] <bruenig> shoumik, in what way?
[03:04] <crusoe> unop: thanks for all the help! now running at 610
[03:04] <cables> shoumik, in the future, if you want to reinstall something, use "sudo aptitude reinstall <packagename>"
[03:04] <witless> is there any notable differences between mpg and avi, aside from the format itself?
[03:04] <shoumik> and it would open agent feedback
[03:04] <unop> crusoe,  that took sometime didnt it? :) everything working ok?
[03:04] <shoumik> something triggered by talkback
[03:04] <bruenig> shoumik, but if you are just going to replace it with the exact same thing, what are you expecting?
[03:04] <cables> witless, avi is just a container. It can contain many things, including versions of mpeg.
[03:05] <unop> SurfnKid,  was this the driver for this machine or the remote one?
[03:05] <shoumik> well i accident;y set it so that it automatically sends the error report
[03:05] <cchance> qrz, whatcha got for me
[03:05] <crusoe> unop, lol, well i left it going while it compiled and attended to some much needed studying...but so far everything is working perfect
[03:05] <witless> cables - thank you
[03:05] <shoumik> and online i saw a way to fix this.
[03:05] <shoumik> and thats was by removing talkback
[03:05] <bruenig> shoumik, that setting would be in your .mozilla config director not in the firefox directory
[03:05] <bruenig> directory*
[03:05] <unop> crusoe,  brilliant .. good to know .. have fun :D
[03:05] <QRZ> cchance: This should work:  http://rob.pectol.com/pastebin/19
[03:05] <crusoe> unop, thanks again!
[03:05] <nightfreak> hi, i cant pass parameters to usbserial when doin a modprobe
[03:05] <SurfnKid> unop: oh no im on the remote machine, the one with the /var/www issue, its the wifi driver, it uses the wlan-ng prism driver, i thought wasnt going to load it, it did :)
[03:05] <unop> crusoe,  you're welcome :)
[03:06] <shoumik> o
[03:06] <shoumik> well is there any way to fix it now?
[03:06] <cchance> QRZ, how can i make all these run at startup
[03:06] <SurfnKid> unop: im on recovery mode <on the box, yes the remote box>
[03:06] <bruenig> shoumik, there are so many variables here, you could delete your .mozilla directory, but doing that would make you lose your bookmarks and extensions and stuff, You would have to re add them and such
[03:06] <gradin> i've got a huge problem
[03:07] <shoumik> i just got ubuntu any way
[03:07] <SurfnKid> gradin: welcome to the jungle
[03:07] <bruenig> well if it is huge, then I will consider it
[03:07] <shoumik> i don't care
[03:07] <QRZ> cchance: a startup script, perhaps...
[03:07] <unop> SurfnKid,  i'm a little confused about your setup (but i'll not focus on it now) what matters is restoring the groups again -- so you in recovery mode, you got root access there?
[03:07] <gradin> i did a apt-get dist-upgrade after changing the repositorys to fiesty and i rebooted
[03:07] <cchance> qrz, still blank their
[03:07] <bruenig> shoumik, ok rm -rf ~/.mozilla
[03:07] <gradin> noe i've got a kernel panic
[03:07] <cables> shoumik, don't delete .mozilla
[03:07] <LjL> !feisty > gradin    (gradin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:07] <bruenig> gradin, #ubuntu+1 feisty is unstable you know that
[03:07] <cables> shoumik, use firefox -safe-mode to test things
[03:07] <shoumik> ok
[03:07] <SurfnKid> unop: yes, i mean im on the remote box, cuz its right across the room, since we were talking about my laptop=client  www=remote
[03:07] <bruenig> hmmm
[03:08] <SurfnKid> unop: im on recovery mode
[03:08] <QRZ> cchance: ...or add the lines to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:08] <jvai> lol
[03:08] <cables> shoumik, and if it comes down to deleting .mozilla, don't delete, just rename it so FIrefox just makes a new one
[03:08] <SurfnKid> unop: although it might be hard to copy and paste stuff
[03:08] <unop> SurfnKid,  oohh cool, i thought remote box as in halfway across a city or something like that :)
[03:08] <gradin> VFS: cannot open root device "UUID=cb0855086--blah blah blah" or unknow-block(0,0)
[03:08] <cables> shoumik, it might be firefox -safemode
[03:08] <shoumik> pl
[03:08] <shoumik> ok
[03:08] <SurfnKid> unop: oh hell no, i would be having cpr by now
[03:08] <SurfnKid> heh
[03:08] <gradin> please append correct "root=" boot option
[03:08] <unop> SurfnKid,  no no, all we need to do is edit the /etc/groups file
[03:08] <SurfnKid> hehe
[03:08] <SurfnKid> ok cool
[03:08] <junmin> hi, guys, i get this warning and trying to reinstall this package, but can not, what should i do?? --- dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xserver-xorg-video-vmware' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[03:09] <LjL> gradin, the point is that #ubuntu+1 is the support channel for feisty. not #ubuntu.
[03:09] <SurfnKid> unop: might want to pm that
[03:09] <unop> SurfnKid, ok
[03:09] <gradin> wtf?
[03:09] <cchance> qrz, append them to the bottom?
[03:09] <LjL> !feisty | gradin
[03:09] <ubotu> gradin: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:09] <shoumik> I deleted it.....
[03:09] <SurfnKid> Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
[03:09] <alex__> would anyone know why my login window option in my administration menu won't load?
[03:09] <LjL> gradin: feisty. is. unstable. this channel is for Dapper and Edgy support.
[03:09] <cables> shoumik, too late for my suggestion i guess
[03:09] <cables> bruenig, I can't help him now... I have to go for 5 minutes. cc  shoumik
[03:09] <shoumik> lol
[03:09] <gradin> oh crap
[03:09] <bruenig> dang
[03:09] <gradin> thats why... i meant to upgrade to edgy
[03:09] <LjL> gradin: feisty should be used by *testers*, and you should *expect* it to break
[03:10] <unop> SurfnKid,  you recving pms?
[03:10] <colordeaf> Is there a way to make gnome-terminal have no menubar be default?
[03:10] <SurfnKid> is Edgy more stable than Dapper?
[03:10] <slvmchn> xenguy: how do i change it to shutdown -h when i do it via the system->quit menu?
[03:10] <SurfnKid> unop: hmm nope
[03:10] <QRZ> cchance: Probably before the, ": exit 0" line and you'll be set.
[03:10] <bruenig> SurfnKid, no
[03:10] <LjL> gradin: then boot from a live CD and make sure your /boot/grub/menu.lst looks alright
[03:10] <unop> SurfnKid, ping me
[03:10] <cables> SurfnKid, not supposed to be... Dapper is the LTS release, after all.
[03:10] <bruenig> shoumik, once you have done the rm command, start up firefox again
[03:10] <shoumik> bruenig u want me to redownload firefox now?
[03:10] <kitche> SurfnKid: dpeends what you consider stable really
[03:10] <SurfnKid> bruenig: so Dapper is.. man im gonna format my pc and set up dapper on it, its been hell
[03:10] <shoumik> what do u mean start up?
[03:10] <bruenig> shoumik, you didn't remove the firefox that came with ubuntu did you?
[03:10] <cables> shoumik, you didn't delete firefox, you just deleted settings
[03:10] <gradin> great... i just toasted my box then...
[03:10] <Skuller> sanne: i dont know wat to do in the NVIDIA driver installation instructions where it says "Find the appropriate module for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8. Selecting one will also install nvidia-kernel-common"
[03:10] <gradin> joy...
[03:11] <shoumik> ummmm i might have bruenig
[03:11] <bruenig> SurfnKid, I just said edgy wasn'
[03:11] <bruenig> t more stable
[03:11] <shoumik> is that a good or bad thing
[03:11] <bruenig> they are fairly equal in their stability as I have seen, but dapper might have the slight edgy
[03:11] <bruenig> edge*
[03:11] <cables> bruenig, seriously, why did you suggest deleting it? I mean, I know from being on this channel that you're way better at Linux then me, but come on...
[03:11] <SurfnKid> bruenig: yeah its good to know, so i can go back to dapper
[03:11] <SurfnKid> unop: i pinged
[03:11] <SurfnKid> unop: hmm
[03:11] <QRZ> cchance: But you should test those iptables commands at the command line first.  If, after running them, things are happy (no syntax errors, etc.), then see if the redirect is working.
[03:11] <Sanne> Skuller: do you have a terminal window open?
[03:11] <shoumik> lol
[03:11] <bruenig> cables, he said he didn't care
[03:11] <cables> bruenig, ok... never mind then :)
[03:11] <Skuller> sanne: no
[03:11] <shoumik> lol
[03:11] <unop> SurfnKid,  no luck .. anyway, lets not waste time there - i have to go in a bit, but before that i have to see you online and happy
[03:12] <unop> :)
[03:12] <SurfnKid> ok
[03:12] <bruenig> it will remake anyways, so all will be fine
[03:12] <QRZ> cchance: If it is, then mod the startup script and you're set.
[03:12] <Sanne> Skuller: can you open one?
[03:12] <unop> SurfnKid, you got root access at that terminal right? just making sure?
[03:12] <Skuller> sanne: yea...lol
[03:12] <Xenguy> slvmchn: I don't think you do :-)  My solution was simple, direct, CLI
[03:12] <Zbyshek> hej guys. WHat happened to all repo mirrors?
[03:12] <SurfnKid> unop: yes!
[03:12] <cables> bruenig, all will be fine except for settings and extensions. But since he said it's ok, whatever.
[03:12] <unop> SurfnKid, nano /etc/groups
[03:12] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah it says
[03:12] <bruenig> who needs those
[03:12] <gradin> can somebody tell me what the root = in the normal grub config?
[03:13] <SurfnKid> unop: root@sx270
[03:13] <kitche> gradin: whatever your / is for your system
[03:13] <Sanne> Skuller: just checking ;) Ok, I'll give you a command that will install the correct package for your running kernel.
[03:13] <shoumik> cables chill i have like 1 bookmark and like 2 extensions, i really DONT CARE
[03:13] <Xenguy> slvmchn: actually, if you simply type 'halt' (no quotes) at the command-line, that should do the same
[03:13] <Pelo> gradin,  HD0 ?
[03:13] <SurfnKid> unop: this is gonna be hard with only one window
[03:13] <slvmchn> xenguy: thanks, i'll just add it to the panel up top so i can just click that
[03:13] <SurfnKid> unop: but ill try
[03:13] <colordeaf> Is there away to disable the menubar in gnome-terminal by default without the --hide-menubar option?
[03:13] <cables> shoumik, ok. Are you using the official Firefox supplied with Ubuntu?
[03:13] <Xenguy> slvmchn: whatever works - that's my motto :-)
[03:14] <bruenig> shoumik, now what do you have as far as firefox is concerned, do you have the ubuntu firefox or did you remove that
[03:14] <unop> SurfnKid,  find your usergroup in that file -- and add this to the end of the line -  sx270,adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,www-data
[03:14] <shoumik> ni removed that
[03:14] <shoumik> i*
[03:14] <Sanne> Skuller: type: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:14] <bruenig> shoumik, "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[03:14] <cables> shoumik, so what firefox are you using?
[03:14] <gregd> how would one fix nvidia broken with latest edgy kernel?
[03:14] <gradin> ah root="boot"
[03:14] <shoumik> ok
[03:14] <SurfnKid> unop: could i use vim instead?
[03:14] <shoumik> im not using firefox
[03:14] <cchance> QRZ, will http://rob.pectol.com/pastebin/20 work?
[03:14] <shoumik> im using opera/flock
[03:14] <cables> shoumik, i thiought firefox was the problem?
[03:14] <unop> SurfnKid,  if you are comfortable with vim sure? infact i'd use it, but not many others know how to use it
[03:14] <shoumik> it was
[03:15] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah cuz im not used to nano, ok ill get on vim
[03:15] <bruenig> cables, as far as I can tell, he removed the ubuntu firefox. Put the firefox firefox in opt. Got into trouble, so decided to delete that and get another one from firefox. That segfaulted he says because of some configuration and so here we are
[03:15] <jvai> is opera in the dapper repos?
[03:15] <Skuller> sanne: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:15] <Skuller> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:15] <bruenig> Skuller, close synaptic
[03:15] <SurfnKid> unop: did you mean /etc/group
[03:15] <SurfnKid> with no s
[03:15] <Sanne> Skuller: listen to bruenig ;)
[03:15] <unop> SurfnKid,  nano really needs no getting used to  -- but vim users tend to find themselves typing ":wq" all over the place :)
[03:15] <Skuller> lol...thnx
[03:15] <shoumik> ok i think it's done?
[03:16] <SurfnKid> unop: haha yeah with ! too
[03:16] <unop> SurfnKid,  ahh yea, /etc/group  -- typo
[03:16] <SurfnKid> np
[03:16] <bruenig> shoumik, open firefox in the menu
[03:16] <bruenig> from the menu*
[03:16] <shoumik> could not launch menu item
[03:16] <SurfnKid> unop: so find my usergroup file hang on
[03:16] <bruenig> shoumik, do /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[03:16] <shoumik> one sec
[03:16] <Skuller> sanne: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-386 is already the newest version.
[03:16] <Skuller> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:16] <cchance> qrz?
[03:17] <QRZ> cchance: I see no reason it shouldn't.  But again, you should debug them at the command line first.
[03:17] <cchance> qrz, debug? It has a cmmd for that
[03:17] <Sanne> Skuller: ah, then you already have it installed, that's fine. So just continue with the instructions on the page.
[03:17] <cchance> qrz, know the cmmd?
[03:17] <SurfnKid> unop: ta heck is my usergroup file
[03:17] <SurfnKid> unop: whats it named?
[03:17] <unop> SurfnKid,  sx27  i think
[03:17] <shoumik> YES I GOT IT TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11(HOPE I'M NOT SPAMING)
[03:17] <unop> shoumik,  thats annoying
[03:18] <shoumik> SRRY, JUST HAD TO EXHALE MY JOY,
[03:18] <cables> shoumik, I think we can make a small exception to the !caps rule for successes...
[03:18] <shoumik> yea
[03:18] <cables> shoumik, 2 is going a bit too far...
[03:18] <SurfnKid> unop: oh wait sorry i see it now, its got a www-data at the end of it
[03:18] <shoumik> umm
[03:18] <shoumik> problem
[03:18] <LjL> shoumik: yes you are
[03:18] <SurfnKid> unop: there's 3 other users below it, but they have nothing after the :
[03:18] <shoumik> lol
[03:18] <unop> shoumik,  well, when you're exhilirated or happy in real life -- do you flail your hands about, jump up and down and generally get people looking at you as if you were funny? :)
[03:19] <SurfnKid> hey Madpilot been a while :P
[03:19] <QRZ> cchance: When I say debug the commands, I mean actually run them from the command line and look for any syntax errors, etc.  If it went well, then test the redirect.
[03:19] <shoumik> not really
[03:19] <Madpilot> hi SurfnKid
[03:19] <shoumik> not in public
[03:19] <bruenig> shoumik, so I assume now you want it to work from the menu?
[03:19] <SurfnKid> unop: do i just remove the www-data?
[03:19] <shoumik> u read my mind
[03:19] <shoumik> not many people can do that
[03:19] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, remove the www-data at the end of the line and add this in its place - adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,www-data
[03:19] <SurfnKid> ok
[03:20] <bruenig> shoumik, ok try this first, sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[03:20] <SurfnKid> unop: question, how do i switch from window to window using screen?
[03:20] <shoumik> thtats a long command
[03:20] <SurfnKid> so i can do this
[03:20] <bruenig> copy and paste is your friend
[03:20] <cables> shoumik, to paste in the Terminal, use ctrl-shift-v
[03:20] <SurfnKid> bruenig: not on recovery it aint lol
[03:20] <cables> ha
[03:20] <shoumik> ur kidding me right?
[03:20] <cables> shoumik, what?
[03:20] <shoumik> life just got so much easier
[03:21] <cables> :)
[03:21] <bruenig> well I could simply use the -f flag and make it easier, but where is the fun
[03:21] <quaal> i just installed microsoft office 2003 with crossover offcie
[03:21] <bruenig> cables, you know that you can just middle click the mouse to paste right?
[03:21] <quaal> but cant find it
[03:21] <Moosejaw> how can i restore my xorg.conf?
[03:21] <Moosejaw> i dont have a decent backup
[03:21] <QRZ> cchance: I looked at your paste again... it does not contain what I suggested for the iptables commands!  You're on your own with it!
[03:21] <shoumik> ok not wat/
[03:21] <SurfnKid> unop: how can i switch screens  when using screen
[03:21] <cchance> QRZ, im not sure if it worked. It displayed a large output and stoped
[03:21] <shoumik> it works..
[03:21] <cables> shoumik, it should just work.
[03:21] <unop> SurfnKid,  screen, not too sure, errm, ctrl+z to background this window -- jobs -l to list jobs and fg %1 or fg %2 to bring other jobs into the foreground
[03:21] <SurfnKid> oh ok
[03:21] <nanothief> bruenig: wow that paste trick rocks
[03:21] <Xenguy> SurfnKid: Ctrl-A Spacebar
[03:21] <shoumik> YES I GOT IT TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(HOPE I'M NOT SPAMING)
[03:21] <bruenig> it sure does
[03:21] <SurfnKid> ok
[03:22] <bruenig> Again with the "I"
[03:22] <cables> shoumik, you sure are this time...
[03:22] <cchance> qrz, you didnt want me to substitute?
[03:22] <shoumik> i g2g thanks, you guys....
[03:22] <newest> hey there, can someone please tell what an alternative program of limewire would be for ubuntu? because the linux version of limewire does not work on my ubuntu
[03:22] <shoumik> ill rememeber u....
[03:22] <cables> shoumik, bruenig, lol at the I
[03:22] <SurfnKid> Xenguy: how can i start 2 different things on one screen and switch back n forth, im on recovery mode
[03:22] <cables> newest, frostwire
[03:22] <Sanne> Moosejaw: you can generate a new one, it will overwrite the current one: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:22] <newest> sweet, ty
[03:22] <cables> !frostwire | newest
[03:22] <ubotu> newest: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:22] <Skuller> diff btween console, gtk and qt?
[03:22] <SurfnKid> unop: hang on so i can get the command right
[03:22] <nanothief> is there any mindmapping programs for linux?
[03:22] <Xenguy> SurfnKid: you want to split the screen?
[03:22] <gradin> so um yeah...
[03:22] <SurfnKid> Xenguy: sort of yes so i can do vim and irssi
[03:23] <gradin> can anybody open up their grub.conf and tell me what it says their root=
[03:23] <gradin> or if there is a line that says real root=
[03:23] <SurfnKid> Xenguy: im on irssi via screen, cuz i know i would need it
[03:23] <gradin> or just pastebin a grub.conf
[03:23] <gradin> that would help me out big time
[03:23] <Xenguy> SurfnKid: I'm sorry, I don't know how, but I do know that it is definately possible - the man page is your friend :-)
[03:23] <gradin> please...
[03:23] <SurfnKid> ok np
[03:23] <Moosejaw> Sanne: can i do this from the gui??
[03:23] <quaal> does anyone know where crossover office installs msoffice 2003 ?
[03:23] <QRZ> cchance: The lines that have, "-m owner --uid-owner squid..." are un-necessary.  You can add them later if you like.  However, for the time being, I'd take them out until you know the redirect is working.
[03:23] <Xenguy> SurfnKid: I use irssi in screen too :-)
[03:23] <quaal> i cannot find it
[03:23] <Moosejaw> just through the command line?
[03:24] <Skuller> i need to overclock my NVIDIA card....the Synaptic has 3 offerings....one is for console, one for GTK n one for QT...wich one do i need?
[03:24] <alex__> anyone know the command to open the login window manager from term?
[03:24] <Sanne> Moosejaw: no, you would type this in a terminal window.
[03:24] <cchance> qrz, thoes are for haveing my pc go through it
[03:24] <terapicodave> anyone know of an open source billing app i can run on ubuntu for a computer consulting/service company?
[03:24] <Sanne> Moosejaw: ah, yes, you can stay in your desktop gui.
[03:24] <cchance> qrz, im going to test the script... am i going to kill my system?
[03:24] <Moosejaw> should i choose ati or fglrx?
[03:24] <unop> alex__,  login windows manager -- sudo gdm
[03:25] <unop> alex__,  or if you use the KDM instead - sudo kdm
[03:25] <Pelo> gradin hold on I am looking for the file right now
[03:25] <QRZ> cchance: Oh, I think I see what you were trying to do.
[03:25] <Sanne> Moosejaw: but after it finished, you would need to restart yout X. For Ati, I dunno, I use Nvidia. Anybody playse help Moosejaw configuring X for Ati please?
[03:25] <gradin> Pelo its in /etc/grub/
[03:25] <Moosejaw> well i want to use fglrx...
[03:26] <QRZ> cchance: If that will successfully route your local surfing through it, then yes, keep them in.
[03:26] <alex__> i meant the login window manager where i can change my login theme
[03:27] <Sanne> Moosejaw: you can try. If it fails, X won't start, then you will have to reconfigure your X again from the console and choose a different driver that works.
[03:27] <alex__> like when u go to system > administration > login window
[03:27] <unop> alex__,  gksudo gdmsetup
[03:27] <Pelo> gradin,  I have no such folder, my grub is in /boot/grub  and there is not grub.conf file, the closes I have id a kpkg_grub.conf  in usr/src/linux-header/...
[03:27] <QRZ> cchance: I've never had to surf the net from the box that is acting as the gateway/transparent proxy.  :-)
[03:27] <penguin_baby> I have been installing packages and they dont show as installed, NEWB <--
[03:27] <SurfnKid> unop: oops sorry it rebooted
[03:27] <SurfnKid> paste the command im gonna write it down
[03:27] <alex__> thank you very much, do u know why the shortcut wouldn't open it?
[03:27] <cchance> qrz, i should be able to use port 80. Thats how its supposed to work
[03:27] <Sanne> Moosejaw: anyhow, I gotta go now, good luck :)
[03:27] <Aysha> Argh. Where does WINE end up on Ubuntu?
[03:28] <penguin_baby> find wine
[03:28] <QRZ> cchance: I've always used a dedicated headless server for this sort of thing.
[03:28] <Aysha> And where does it mount the virtual C drive? >.<
[03:28] <alex__> it brought up the password authentication screen, but then nothing happens
[03:28] <penguin_baby> locate wine
[03:28] <Sanne> Skuller: I need to leave, godd luck with Nvidia :)
[03:28] <unop> SurfnKid,  edit /etc/group -- and add this to the end of your usergroup's line - adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,www-data
[03:28] <Skuller> sanne: thnx fer da help man...laterz
[03:28] <gradin> ok can anyone else please pastebin a grub.conf
[03:28] <cchance> qrz, well i dont got one so im stuck with this
[03:28] <Sanne> Skuller: you're welcome (and I'm no man) ;)
[03:28] <Sanne> bye all
[03:29] <unop> alex__,  errm, not really sure -- verify that the shortcut link is actually pointing to gdmsetup
[03:29] <Skuller> sanne:...lol...sori abt dat...guess i shudnt ave assumed
[03:29] <penguin_baby> I installed packages, they dont show as installed though
[03:29] <QRZ> cchance: Yes, it should work fine.  The idea is to transparently redirect all outbound to port 80, to the proxy's listening port.
[03:29] <Sanne> Skuller: heh, no worries :)
[03:29] <Blacken_> I just tried to install the rageircd package and it broke. Now I can't remove it. How do I get rid of the bloody thing?
[03:30] <cchance> qrz, i feel safer with building a script, what do i do add commands to the file and make it exicutable?
[03:30] <Aysha> I can't find it. >.<
[03:30] <alex__> how do i do that?
[03:30] <Pelo> gradin check private window
[03:30] <unop> cchance,  sudo chmod +x file
[03:30] <Aysha> All I want to do is run Silent Hill 2. :P
[03:30] <gradin> ok can anyone else please pastebin a grub.conf
[03:30] <unop> alex__,  i dont use gnome, so i dont know of an easier way -- the way i do it .. drag the icon to the desktop, once its on the desktop, right click it, properties, etc
[03:31] <jvai> u kno what peeps, i didnt start using a pc until 2001, i switched to ubuntu in '04.. &, i learned sooo much about networking it's shame, & i never had highr edumacation
[03:31] <jvai> ty u all
[03:31] <SurfnKid> unop: ok up to www-data right?
[03:31] <Pelo> gradin,  have you tried asking in #grub ?
[03:31] <SurfnKid> unop: gonna add it hang on a sec
[03:31] <unop> SurfnKid,  yeop
[03:31] <QRZ> cchance: I'd suggest starting off with an example or, "skeleton" script such as /etc/init.d/skeleton or similar.
[03:31] <alex__> yeah it points to it
[03:32] <cchance> unop, can i use commands for it? like ones id use in terminal
[03:32] <cchance> qrz, ok
[03:32] <unop> cchance,  command for what tho? a script uses the same command in the terminal as it does within it with very little exception
[03:32] <QRZ> cchance: Or, you can use my Ubuntu Startup Script Generator  --->  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/17/33/
[03:34] <balleyne> is anyone here?
[03:34] <Rug> balleyne: no
[03:34] <Rug> balleyne: yes
[03:34] <Rug> balleyne: pick one
[03:34] <Rug> balleyne: what's up?
[03:34] <balleyne> lol, k, sorry, first time on irc
[03:34] <unop> dont believe what you see in here -- it's all an illusion :)
[03:34] <QRZ> cchance: Anyway, good luck with it... I'm off to go eat dinner!
[03:35] <SurfnKid> unop: ok im back on normal mode, i went ahead and tried to get gksudo users-admin and it still says the same thing
[03:35] <Bsims> I have a problem I am trying to format an external HD, it starts to format it then hal decides to automount it... how do I tell hal to go away long enough for me to format this drive?
[03:35] <SurfnKid> unop: doesnt allow me in
[03:35] <cchance> unop, il paste bin what i got
[03:35] <unop> SurfnKid,  what does id list?
[03:35] <SurfnKid> uid=1000(sx270) gid=1000(sx270) grupos=33(www-data),1000(sx270)
[03:35] <Rug> Bsims: to format a HD it must be unmounted
[03:35] <Bsims> Rug: I know, the format starts then hal automounts it
[03:36] <SurfnKid> unop: i was supposed to enter adm... all that next to my usergroup sx270 right?
[03:36] <Pelo> Rug,  read the question again
[03:36] <cchance> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4989/
[03:36] <unop> SurfnKid, it doesnt look like the edit was saved -- or it wasnt saved properly
[03:36] <unop> SurfnKid,  can you pastebin /etc/group please
[03:36] <Pelo> SurfnKid,  what are you using to format it ?
[03:36] <SurfnKid> sure im right on it
[03:37] <Pelo> SurfnKid,  sorry not you
[03:37] <Bsims> Heh it says in gparted automounting disabled but it lies
[03:37] <unop> cchance,  you want this content to be used as a script?
[03:37] <alex__> anyone know how to change the background of the applications, places, and system menu?
[03:37] <cchance> unop, no only the commands (not the sudo)
[03:37] <SurfnKid> unop: http://www.pastebin.ca/348336
[03:38] <FantasticFoo> i tried enabling "acpi=off" but it made zero difference. installer still freezes my machine
[03:38] <unop> cchance,  yea, i was going to get to that -- copy and paste the content to a file, remove the leading sudo -- save the file and make it executable with - sudo chmod a+x filename
[03:38] <weblordpepe> ive had enough
[03:38] <cables> alex__, I'd think Gconf but I can't find anything about that in there...
[03:38] <SurfnKid> unop: dont i have to add sx270 next to every place that says oscasr, internet ?
[03:38] <balleyne> I have a question/problem... When I try to run the Update Manager on Ubuntu (6.06), I get an error message "Only one software manager allowed to run at the same time". I think my system may have shutdown DURING an update before... maybe there are temporary or downloaded files sitting somewhere on my system? Any ideas? Any help would be appreciate...
[03:38] <Bsims> anyone have an idea on how to do this?
[03:39] <Bsims> It can't be that hard to tell hal to shutup for the 30seconds or so this will take
[03:39] <Quintin> balleyne: There shouldn't be a lock unless another program is using apt
[03:39] <Pelo> balleyne,  don'T run synaptic or add/remove programs at the same time as the update manager
[03:39] <weblordpepe> anybody here got ubuntu 6.10 running off a USB drive?
[03:39] <Quintin> jvai: buy my dvd burner! :p
[03:39] <alex__> yeah i've tried, i can get it to work if i install a theme, but i don't want to theme my desktop
[03:39] <Quintin> weblordpepe: yes
[03:39] <unop> SurfnKid,  not really -- your username is sx27 right?
[03:39] <weblordpepe> i cant get my usb stick to boot :(
[03:39] <balleyne> I've tried it with no other programs running... at least not visibly
[03:39] <Quintin> weblordpepe: your motherboard probably sucks.
[03:39] <bruenig> cchance, sorry for jumping in here especially if I miss what you were saying exactly, but just make the script look like this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4991/
[03:39] <weblordpepe> the partition is flagged as bootable
[03:39] <SurfnKid> sx270
[03:40] <Pelo> Bsims,  try xkill hal in the terminal
[03:40] <weblordpepe> my mootherboard supports usb drive booting
[03:40] <jvai> lmao @ quitin.. i'm qq'n @ the thinkpad 1 now they r much slimmer http://www.directron.com/73p3312.html
[03:40] <unop> SurfnKid,  this is real perplexing -- pastebin the output of this  -- whoami; id; groups;
[03:40] <balleyne> Quintin: how can I figure out if another program is using apt? I mean.. I had nothing else open.. is there a command I can run or something?
[03:40] <Quintin> weblordpepe: usb boot is horribly broken on most motherboards.  not unlike HyperThreading
[03:40] <Bsims> I could do that
[03:40] <weblordpepe> Quintin: what steps did you take to get it going
[03:40] <Pelo> weblordpepe,  check the forum for booting from usb drive
[03:40] <cchance> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4992/
[03:40] <weblordpepe> okie dokie ta
[03:40] <Quintin> weblordpepe: just like any other install...
[03:40] <weblordpepe> hmm
[03:41] <cables> balleneye, it could be synaptic, add/remove, update manager, dpkg, aptitude, apt-get, any other sort of installer...
[03:41] <Quintin> weblordpepe: Do you have GRUB installed?
[03:41] <SurfnKid> unop: http://www.pastebin.ca/348341
[03:41] <unop> cchance,  there's some error in your script there -- let's see the contents of /home/owner/Desktop/startup
[03:41] <Dregin> I can no longer start X. It's giving me the error - X module and nvidia kernel module have different version. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[03:42] <Quintin> Dregin: lsmod | grep nvidia
[03:42] <Dregin> previous to this I applied automatic updates and also installed dsniff and wireshark
[03:42] <weblordpepe> im not entirely sure - i dont think i do. im using a guide on this page http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610
[03:42] <SurfnKid> unop: you had it right once, didnt you put back all the users with one of the usermod commands or something of that kind>?
[03:42] <Dregin> Quintin: what does that do?
[03:42] <balleyne> is there a command I can run to determine which programs are using apt?
[03:42] <weblordpepe> although now i see xubuntu isnt ubuntu
[03:42] <weblordpepe> :O
[03:42] <weblordpepe> thats where ivebeen doing wrong. it must be.
[03:42] <Quintin> Dregin: read the manpages, don't have time
[03:42] <cchance> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4993/
[03:43] <Dregin> kk
[03:43] <Quintin> Dregin: You probably need to run the nvidia installer again.
[03:43] <Dregin> thanks
[03:43] <weblordpepe> actually it cant be
[03:43] <Quintin> Dregin: how did you install nvidia drivers?
[03:43] <weblordpepe> argh
[03:43] <Rug> Would the Ubuntu community like/need a new .iso mirror or an apt mirror more?
[03:43] <Quintin> weblordpepe: huh?  xubuntu is ubuntu
[03:43] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea it was alright -- next thing i know you have only these 2 groups -- and now i cant understand why /etc/group says one thing and id says another
[03:43] <gradin> ok can anyone else please pastebin a grub.conf
[03:43] <weblordpepe> Quintin: yeah i figure theyre  not exactly very different under the hood. im just trying to figure out where ive gone wrong.
[03:43] <unop> SurfnKid,  are you sure you saved the file as /etc/group ??
[03:44] <SurfnKid> unop: ill check
[03:44] <weblordpepe> i mean... ive set the BIOS to boot from USB,  ive got a partition on the usb drive thats big enough, has ubuntu files and is flagged as boot
[03:45] <SurfnKid> unop: sure did, but i pressed Ctrl + D to continue booting, should i do a full reboot maybe thatll help
[03:45] <Bsims> I got it I had to do it on the command line
[03:45] <gradin> can anybody open up their grub.conf and tell me what it says their root=
[03:45] <gradin> or just pastebin a grub.conf
[03:45] <lordose> hi everybody, did someone already have problems with the configuration of an ati card?
[03:45] <gradin> that would help me out big time
[03:45] <gradin> please...
[03:45] <Quintin> weblordpepe: you haven't installed GRUB anywhere?  might see if GRUB can boot it
[03:45] <elpargo> what is the default ubuntu 6.10 driver for ati cards?
[03:45] <SurfnKid> unop: Esc  wq! saved it
[03:45] <weblordpepe> yea thats a good idea Quintin
[03:45] <Bsims> sudo /sbin/mkfs.ext3 -m 0 -j /dev/sdf1 did it where gparted triggered hal to automount it for reasons only the great GNU knows
[03:45] <cchance> unop, anything?
[03:45] <weblordpepe> i'll go find myself a CDR
[03:46] <unop> cchance,  ok, for one -- you seem to have seperated line 6 into two -- line 7 should be part of line 6 .. same with line 9 .. it's to be part of line 8
[03:46] <SurfnKid> unop: let me reboot
[03:46] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea, a reboot would definitely help :)
[03:46] <SurfnKid> k brb
[03:47] <Bsims> that was pissing me off, gparted even said it diabled automounting but I guess it lied
[03:47] <cchance> unop, they are all togeather
[03:47] <unop> cchance,  let me edit it for you :)
[03:47] <cchance> unop, please
[03:47] <ody42> hello
[03:48] <gradin> come on guys i just need one person to paste bin a grub.conf
[03:48] <balleyne> question for anyone who has a second: can't run update manager because it tells me that apt or synaptic is in use already.. but I'm not running any other programs. Would these programs appear as processes in my System Monitor? How can I tell if they're running and how can I terminate them.... any help would be appreciated, thanks
[03:48] <ody42>  have anybody had problemes with installing a webcam
[03:48] <cables> gradin, it prob. won't work for you...
[03:48] <lufis> balleyne: run killall synaptic to kill the process
[03:48] <tc4200> Can anyone help me in the Final steps of getting my wireless in dapper to work? iwconfig sees it
[03:48] <gradin> balleyne ps aux
[03:48] <Bsims> balleyne: try ps auxf|grep synaptic
[03:48] <gradin> balleyne that will list all running processes
[03:48] <cables> gradin, do you mean menu.lst?
[03:48] <Pelo> balleyne,  we've provided the answer a few times,  reboot your computer to make sure no progr is running and try again
[03:48] <lordose> elpargo: i already tried to install the comunity verson and the verson from ati website... but still showing me mesa driver when i run glxrinfo
[03:48] <balleyne> thanks!
[03:48] <gradin> cableroy no, the actual grub.conf
[03:48] <Catachan> so, uhm, what command do I use to compile a java source file?
[03:49] <Bsims> ody42: most webcams I found are windows only
[03:49] <lordkeiden> what is a good stable encrypted file system?
[03:49] <gradin> cables wait that might work too
[03:49] <Pelo> gradin,  did you ask in #grub ?
[03:49] <cables> gradin, i don't know where grub.conf is?
[03:49] <Quintin> lordkeiden: glxinfo | grep rendering
[03:49] <Bsims> cables: whereis grub.conf
[03:49] <Silthrim> yo whats up
[03:49] <gradin> cables try /ect/grub/grub.conf
[03:49] <Rug> gradin: menu.1st ??
[03:49] <gradin> *etc
[03:49] <unop> cchance,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4995/ -- but two possible errors -- line#6 .. -s eth0 (iptables doesnt know what -s is) .. and line #7 .. 192.168.0.1\6 (do you mean 192.168.0.16?)
[03:49] <elpargo> lordose, they conflict you have to be sure you have one or the other.
[03:49] <Skuller> hey guys...i just installed the nVIDIA drivers from Synaptec....and ran the config....but its giving me this "Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[03:49] <Skuller> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[03:49] <Skuller> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[03:49] <Skuller> command:
[03:49] <Skuller> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[03:50] <Skuller> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[03:50] <Skuller> from nv to nvidia.
[03:50] <Skuller> "
[03:50] <cables> gradin, there it is... but I think menu.lst has all the commands for where to look for things
[03:50] <ivx> did anyone ever know they had www.google.com/linux
[03:50] <unop> ivx,  thats been around for some 3-4 years now
[03:50] <cables> Skuller, do what it says. I can help you in a few minutes if you want.
[03:50] <Bsims> ivx: Heh I did... I hate the new groups interface
[03:50] <cchance> unop, i meant pc 1 - 6
[03:51] <ivx> what is it suppost to be? to search for linux qestions?
[03:51] <cables> gradin, I don't have a grub.conf...
[03:51] <Hotbird> hello, i have a problem with ndiswrapper in edgy, i setup all as in the ndiswrapper wiki but after a iwconfig i have no wireless device..
[03:51] <MotorCityMadMan> does linux have a program that will convert a wps file ?
[03:51] <gradin> cables where did you paste it at?
[03:51] <Mulder_> how do you store filenames that arent english in linux?
[03:51] <elpargo> Skuller, very clear to me, you made some changes just follow the instructions
[03:51] <cables> Skuller, you need help with Nvidia?
[03:51] <cables> gradin, I don't have it...
[03:51] <unop> cchance,  you mean  192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.6 ??
[03:51] <cchance> yes
[03:51] <lordkeiden> Quintin: for encrypted file system?
[03:51] <Skuller> cables, yea
[03:51] <Pelo> MotorCityMadMan,  what is a wps file ?
[03:51] <Skuller> elpargo, ok....
[03:51] <cables> Skuller, pm?
[03:51] <gradin> cables how about the menu.1st?
[03:51] <cchance> unop, yes
[03:52] <Skuller> cables, pm?
[03:52] <cables> Skuller, private message
[03:52] <elpargo> pm=private message
[03:52] <unop> ivx,  its to search for linux related webpages -- it narrows down the search so that you don't get windows or other specific results
[03:52] <Skuller> cables, yea wat about it?
[03:52] <MotorCityMadMan> Pelo: MS works 6.0 format
[03:52] <cables> Skuller, do you want to use it?
[03:52] <ody42> so webcams dont work on linux
[03:52] <Skuller> sure
[03:52] <Silthrim> where can I go to just chat?
[03:52] <weblordpepe> ok i dont have a clipboard, a pen/paper or anything to save this URL to. can i paste a URL to somebody on IRC and then get it again in 5 minutes?
[03:52] <Pelo> MotorCityMadMan,  doesn't OPEN OFFICE  open it ?
[03:52] <ivx> unop, oh cool. i stubled across it when i was looking at google.com on archive.org
[03:53] <Skuller> cables, sure
[03:53] <elpargo> Silthrim, myspace
[03:53] <Bsims> Woot! I got my new 500GB My Book to format
[03:53] <weblordpepe> its a wierd request i know
[03:53] <mytruehero> I just installed 6.10 on a new system, and the only network interface that's showing up is "Modem." Looking at some customer reviews for my motherboard, I see that someone posted this: "For my Ubuntu edgy install, I had to compile the drivers for the LAN card, source provided in the CD just do make, make install, modprobe atl1." Sounds like the ticket, but I'm not quite sure how to do what he's saying. Can anyone translate this 
[03:53] <Bsims> I had to do it on the command line but it worked
[03:53] <weblordpepe> but i REeeeeeeeally dont have a pen/paper
[03:53] <Silthrim> very funny :P
[03:53] <unop> cchance,  in that case you need 192.168.0.0/29
[03:53] <gradin> yeah it is the menu.1st i'm looking for
[03:53] <variant> quiet in here for a change
[03:53] <gradin> thanks cables
[03:53] <Skuller> cables, umm....wha do i do to PM?
[03:54] <Pelo> gradin,  I gave you mine an hour ago
[03:54] <ody42> bsims; have you installed a webcam on linux
[03:54] <variant> Skuller: /query username
[03:54] <balleyne> exit
[03:54] <xbruceyx> Bsims, hey, what a coincidence... i just bought a WD My Book 500GB drive at staples this week :)
[03:54] <variant> Skuller: you have to be registerd iwth nickserve
[03:54] <cables> Skuller, I just started it. You need to register your IRC nick with freenode though... (use this command: /msg NickServ REGISTER <passwordyouwant>
[03:54] <Skuller>  /msg NickServ REGISTER 1234
[03:54] <cchance> unop, Bad argument `192.168.0.0/26' iptables v1.3.3: Unknown arg `-s'
[03:54] <cables> Does anyone know if there are any security risks in pasting my menu.lst? There's a password bit, should I delete that first?
[03:55] <lordkeiden> what is a good stable encrypted file system?
[03:55] <cables> skuller, that apparently didn't work...
[03:55] <cchance> unop, /home/owner/Desktop/startup: line 7: eth0: command not found
[03:55] <Dregin> I apt-get removed nvidia-glx and the installed it again... I'm still getting the same error, Quintin. It's also saying "screens found but none of them have a useable configuration".
[03:55] <cables> Skuller, there's a space before the command
[03:55] <Pelo> MotorCityMadMan,  open office opens  wps documents
[03:55] <Mulder_> lordkeiden, cryptsetup-luks + something on top works well
[03:55] <cables> Skuller, you put a space before the command
[03:55] <kloro> j
[03:55] <unop> cchance,  not /26 .. /29   -- 192.168.0.0/29
[03:55] <Skuller> cables, yea i got that
[03:55] <mytruehero> I just installed 6.10 on a new system, and the only network interface that's showing up is "Modem." Looking at some customer reviews for my motherboard, I see that someone posted this: "For my Ubuntu edgy install, I had to compile the drivers for the LAN card, source provided in the CD just do make, make install, modprobe atl1." Sounds like the ticket, but I'm not quite sure how to do what he's saying. Can anyone translate this 
[03:55] <Mulder_> dmcrypt encrypts the layer below, then you install whatever filesystem you like on top of the abstraction layer
[03:56] <cchance> unop, /home/owner/Desktop/startup: line 7: eth0: command not found
[03:56] <cchance> Bad argument `192.168.0.0/29'
[03:56] <SurfnKid> unop: ok i did something of my own and added sx270 to the root section at the very top
[03:56] <SurfnKid> unop: now i have users/groups on the menu
[03:56] <cables> Skuller, when you come back here, you need to use /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password> to "log in"
[03:56] <Pelo> mytruehero,  read this  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:56] <MotorCityMadMan> Pelo: ok ty, i have koffice installed and it will not open the file, so i will give open office a try
[03:56] <unop> cchance,  well, pastebin that file again :)
[03:56] <unop> SurfnKid,  and do you have all the default groups back in too?
[03:56] <Skuller> cables, umm...where and why do i need to log in?
[03:56] <unop> SurfnKid,  because thats what matters really
[03:56] <SurfnKid> unop: i practically added sx270 where i thought would be needed, also in the sudo usermod
[03:57] <SurfnKid> let me check
[03:57] <cchance> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4996/
[03:57] <cables> Skuller, to use Private Chat you need to be logged in to the Freenode IRC server.
[03:57] <SurfnKid> unop: wow now i do user/groups from the menu and i dont even get a password, i would like to get the password verification back
[03:57] <Skuller> cables, but i ave bin logged in before without a password havent i?
[03:57] <ody42> bsims: have you installed webcams on linux
[03:57] <cables> Skuller, yes, but you haven't been able to use private chat
[03:58] <mytruehero> Pelo: There's a lot there. What in particular should I be looking for?
[03:58] <Bsims> ody42: not and have it worked
[03:58] <unop> SurfnKid,  if you just issued a command using sudo/gksudo, you will not have been prompted for a password, that is normal and expected
[03:58] <Skuller> cables, ohh.....ok....so i need to log in for only private chat...not for the main thing aye
[03:58] <cables> gradin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4998/
[03:58] <unop> SurfnKid,  did you use a sudo command?
[03:58] <SurfnKid> unop: actually i didnt, i chose the ubuntu menu
[03:58] <Pelo> mytruehero,  check under the tar.gz section
[03:58] <cables> Skuller, if you don't mind, let's just fix it here. You're trying to install the Nvidia drivers right?
[03:58] <SurfnKid> let me paste the file
[03:58] <unop> cchance,  yea, your lines were split again -- here are the corrections http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4997/
[03:59] <kitche> SurfnKid: there is a 5 minute hold on the password if you did it before
[03:59] <Skuller> cables, yea
[03:59] <variant> SurfnKid: sudo stores the fact that you have previously entered a correct password for a certain amount of time
[03:59] <unop> SurfnKid,  did you issue any commands at all prior to this?
[03:59] <cables> Skuller, you ran the configuration command and it didn't work?
[03:59] <cchance> unop, Bad argument `192.168.0.0/29'  Bad argument `eth0'
[03:59] <mytruehero> Pelo: I guess I understand the make, make install process, but what exactly am I supposed to be installing? Where are the files I'm supposed to compile located on the CD?
[03:59] <variant> cchance: what you trying to do?
[04:00] <tapas> hi, the python-qt4 package on edgy seems to miss the QSystemTrayIcon
[04:00] <tapas> what's up widdad?
[04:00] <cchance> variant, have commands run from a file at startup
[04:00] <variant> cchance: /29 = 8 ip addresses
[04:00] <Skuller> cables, i did wt all this said ......https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:00] <Pelo> mytruehero, that I don'T know, I think they expect you to have a sourve package on your LAN card cd
[04:00] <cables> Skuller, ok. Did you edit your xorg.conf at all?
[04:00] <cchance> unop,can i have it go to 3?
[04:00] <cchance> unop, i only need 3 ips
[04:00] <variant> cchance: pastebin the comand that you are having run (paste it as you are entering it)
[04:00] <Skuller> cables: i m stuck at da part where it asks me to do something in da terminal after step 10
[04:01] <Skuller> cables, no
[04:01] <variant> cchance: /30 is 4
[04:01] <cchance> varient, /home/owner# /home/owner/Desktop/startup
[04:01] <unop> cchance,  it depends -- what three ip addresses?
[04:01] <variant> cchance: either 4 or 2.. not 3
[04:01] <mytruehero> Pelo: Hrm. Bought it OEM. Time to do some searching, I guess.
[04:01] <variant> cchance: if you are specifiing an ip range that is
[04:01] <mytruehero> Pelo: Thanks for the help.
[04:01] <SurfnKid> kitche: variant: unop this was the first login I ever did on anything regarding gksudo. so it should have asked me for a pwd, here's probably why take a look at the modified /etc/group file http://pastebin.ca/348357
[04:01] <Pelo> mytruehero,  don'T you have a driver cd that came with the computer ? check on that
[04:01] <cables> Skuller, here's what we're going to do. Open a terminal and run the command "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf". It should open a text editor with a big file.
[04:02] <unop> cchance,  from the looks of it -- the iptables commands you are using dont seem to be complete -- e.g. 192.168.0.0/29 is missign a flag so is eth0
[04:02] <SurfnKid> unop: http://pastebin.ca/348357
[04:02] <cchance> unop varient, 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.3 192.168.0.4
[04:02] <jontec> why is firefox 2 periodically closing?
[04:02] <ody42> how do i get my name to be in dark blue
[04:02] <mytruehero> Pelo: No CD, no manual, no box.
[04:02] <cables> Skuller, tell me when you're done with that
[04:02] <ardchoille> !gksudo | cables
[04:02] <ubotu> cables: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[04:02] <variant> cchance: 192.168.0.1/30
[04:02] <Pelo> mytruehero,  good hunthing then
[04:02] <Aysha> Guys, can anyone give me help with WINE?
[04:02] <Skuller> cables, yea opened
[04:02] <cables> ardchoille, sorry... I knew that, but stupidly forgot to tell him that
[04:03] <MotorCityMadMan> Pelo: openoffice trying to open wps file:general error/general input/output error
[04:03] <lufi1> Aysha: what's the problem?
[04:03] <cchance> varient, nope
[04:03] <unop> cchance,  continue using /29 ...
[04:03] <cchance> varient, didnt work
[04:03] <Pelo> MotorCityMadMan,  that was the best I could do for you
[04:03] <variant> cchance: i assure you that /30 = 4 addresses
[04:03] <Richard_2006> NOOB here, sorry to bother you all, but getting frustrated. have loaded ubunto edgy eft 6.10 and while trying to do thinks as directed in documents I keep running into missing icons on the system menu, missing disks and software permissions.
[04:03] <unop> variant,  /30 makes 192.168.0.3 the broadcast address
[04:03] <cables> Skuller, ctrl-f and search for Section "Device"
[04:03] <Aysha> I'm trying to get it to run Silent Hill 2, which looks like it is supported on their website, but I can't seem to figure out how to run it at all.
[04:03] <mytruehero> Pelo: Thanks
[04:03] <cables> Skuller, including the Section part
[04:03] <Aysha> I've tried double clicking the EXE, running it from the auto run for the CD, running it from the command prompt...
[04:03] <variant> unop: how do you work that out?
[04:03] <MotorCityMadMan> Pelo: ty for the try
[04:04] <kitche> Aysha: what does the error say?
[04:04] <cables> Skuller, then under that, see if there's a line for Driver. If there is, change it from "nv" to "nvidia".
[04:04] <lufi1> Aysha: running it like "wine file.exe?"
[04:04] <Pelo> MotorCityMadMan,  the only thing I can suggest is find a windows computer running ms work or ms office and then save the file in something more standard like .doc or  txt
[04:04] <MotorCityMadMan> worht a try
[04:04] <cables> Skuller, shoot... I forgot to do one thing. Close the editor without saving. We need to back up the file first to make sure
[04:04] <Aysha> I actually tried pointing it directly to the .exe using an absolute path
[04:04] <cchance> unop, whats the plan
[04:04] <lufi1> Aysha: ah. and what happened?
[04:04] <YoManWazap> Hi all, I'm using Ubuntu 6.10. When trying to download files using Bittorrent I'm only allowed to download one file at a time. I get this message: Couldn't listen (98, 'Address already in use') Any help?... thanks!!
[04:04] <SurfnKid> unop: brb
[04:04] <Skuller> cables, oh ok
[04:05] <Aysha> It gave me a > prompt.
[04:05] <SurfnKid> unop: rebooting one more time
[04:05] <unop> variant,  because 30 accomodates (2^2)-2 usable addresses .. i.e. 2 .. and they are 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2
[04:05] <jonpo> question. i have 2 nics on my box, 1 switch & router. eth0 is connected to the switch. eth1 is connected to the router. how can i set this up so that only samba traffic goes through eht0 & all other traffic is sent to eth1?
[04:05] <lufi1> Aysha: okay, well, you can open it from gnome. go to properties and in the "open with" command section, type "wine"
[04:05] <cchance> unop varient, il use 28 now stop fighting im only allowing 2 ips anyway
[04:06] <cables> Skuller, run the command "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup"
[04:06] <Quintin> jonpo: /join #networking
[04:06] <variant> unop: hmm, correct me if i'm wrong but /30 = 4 addresses.. so the 4th would be the broadcast address?
[04:06] <unop> cchance,  /28 will use 192.168.0.1 upto 192.168.0.14 tho .. its not as restrictive as /29
[04:06] <jvai> ok ppl.. ty .. & gn
[04:07] <Aysha> It churns up, but I see no results, though we've got CD reading. Does it usually take a while to load up games?
[04:07] <cables> Skuller, to paste into the terminal, you can use ctrl-shift-v, or a middle click.
[04:07] <variant> unop: ahh. nm.. lol
[04:07] <unop> variant,  if you look at it that way -- the first address is 192.168.0.0
[04:07] <cchance> unop, how important is the ip range can i spcify them manualy
[04:07] <variant> unop: yes. your right :P
[04:07] <Aysha> And the CD reading stopped. >.<
[04:07] <cchance> iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp 192.168.0.1/28 --dport 3128 -j ACCEPT  <<< WRONG only allows to go through port 80
[04:07] <Skuller> cables, done...it dint give any confirmation on that command
[04:07] <cchance> If they go through anyother they are fowarded to port 80
[04:08] <Aysha> And now the disk activity has stopped.
[04:08] <[LuNa] > Hola
[04:08] <cables> Skuller, wasn't supposed to... now do "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:08] <[LuNa] > O_O
[04:08] <unop> cchance,  well, if you allow every other IP address like in /28 .. it means every address in the rand 192.168.0.1-14 is allowed ..
[04:08] <andyaa1> Is there a good Apache webserver with PHP capabilities for Ubuntu?
[04:08] <ody42> blsssssssssssssss
[04:08] <cchance> unop, il specify them
[04:08] <Xenguy> andyaa1: the LAMP option
[04:09] <Xenguy> andyaa1: when installing
[04:09] <andyaa1> LAMP, where can I getr more on LAMP?
[04:09] <Pelo> g'night folks
[04:09] <Skuller> cables, the editor has opened with the text in it but it gave me this as well in the terminal....."(gedit:11724): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:09] <Skuller> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:09] <Skuller> "
[04:09] <cables> Skuller, that's fine
[04:09] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !torrent
[04:09] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:09] <Xenguy> andyaa1: google or wikipedia I expect
[04:09] <jontec> !LAMP | andyaa1
[04:09] <ubotu> andyaa1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:09] <ardchoille> Skuller: That's normal, ignore it
[04:10] <SurfnKid> unop is gone
[04:10] <cchance> unop, varient, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4999/
[04:10] <Skuller> cables, roger that
[04:10] <jontec> andyaa1: yes. apache works very well on ubuntu
[04:10] <jontec> :D
[04:10] <cables> Skuller, when that's open, do a ctrl-f for "Section "Device"" and change "nv" to "nvidia". Then close all programs, and use ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X. Then come back here and tell me if it worked. It should show an Nvidia logo. I'll help you remove that once we know the driver works.
[04:10] <SurfnKid> kitche: variant I got it, I had my usergroup on the sudo section of the /etc/group file, so gksudo didnt ask for a password. I didnt know what to do just to get admin access so i did this, but now i removed it
[04:10] <SurfnKid> and users/groups asks me for a password now
[04:11] <SurfnKid> cables: its all fixed thanks :)
[04:11] <unop> SurfnKid,  you also have your usergroup in root :o
[04:11] <SurfnKid> oh there you are
[04:11] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah i removed it now
[04:11] <cables> SurfnKid, what did I  do to help?
[04:11] <SurfnKid> lol
[04:11] <unop> SurfnKid,  no wonder you werent prompted for a password -- because you are effectively root there
[04:11] <SurfnKid> cables: you had a suggestion earlier :P
[04:11] <Skuller> cables, i did a search of section device and dint find anything
[04:11] <SurfnKid> unop: actually it wasnt root, it was sudo
[04:11] <Glombool> Can anyone tell me where my wine config file would be located?
[04:11] <ody42> hello
[04:11] <Glombool> i though /home/user/.wine
[04:11] <cables> Skuller, there are quotes around Device and both are capitalized.
[04:11] <Glombool> but isn't there.
[04:12] <smaake> This site: http://dkdk.homelinux.com/ is running apache on ubuntu. It gets only very light load but it runs well on an old 400 mhz compaq with 128MB of RAM.
[04:12] <SurfnKid> unop: man i just learned stuff about admin access that is good to know!
[04:12] <unop> SurfnKid,  err ,... not from what i see here  http://pastebin.ca/348357
[04:12] <antibody> hi all I have a dual core 2..should I download 64 or 32 bits cd?
[04:12] <jontec> andyaa1: we have version 2.0.55, just drop in the packages and go
[04:12] <SurfnKid> unop: oh right, but i removed it now
[04:12] <unop> SurfnKid,  line #1 has your usergroup in root .. dont do that
[04:12] <linuxnewbie756> how hard is it to use vmware to use windows in ubuntu dapper, and should i use vmware player or server? i am just going to be using it on my pc.
[04:12] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah now i wont
[04:12] <linuxnewbie756> someone suggested i use server, for some reason
[04:12] <andyaa1> Where do I get your version 2.0.55?
[04:12] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, so now whats the status of your id command? :)
[04:12] <DavidCraft> i am trying to set up so that mutiple people can vnc to a ubuntu box and have their own GUI and desktop and so forth. I've managed to read enough documentation to manage to get two X servers running, and to vnc each of them independetly, however, one locks, and they only unlock when you alt+ctrl+F7-F?
[04:12] <cables> linuxnewbie756, use server because player can't create VMs.
[04:12] <SurfnKid> unop: let me check
[04:12] <unop> SurfnKid,  I hope its all good
[04:12] <linuxnewbie756> oh
[04:12] <ody42> hello
[04:13] <linuxnewbie756> ok, is it free?
[04:13] <Glombool> Where is the wine config file located?
[04:13] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: easy, and 'server' version is free as in beer
[04:13] <cables> linuxnewbie756, yep
[04:13] <Doctor> is nfsroot boot something not really done by ubuntu users?
[04:13] <SurfnKid> unop: it is, i can now do everything as before, just needed to get the gksudo users-admin like you said back up
[04:13] <linuxnewbie756> is it worth it? or is everything really laggish?
[04:13] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: kqemu was just freed-up tho, so I will be looking at qemu + kqemy :-)
[04:14] <unop> SurfnKid,  also dont forget access to /var/www :)
[04:14] <Richard_2006> frustrated noob needs help here
[04:14] <cables> Xenguy, linuxnewbie756, that's harder
[04:14] <Skuller> cables, found it woot woot
[04:14] <cables> linuxnewbie756, you just need enough memory for both OS's combined. Then it will run pretty fast
[04:14] <SurfnKid> unop: lol oh yeah thats what i came in here for! http://pastebin.ca/348364
[04:14] <linuxnewbie756> 1 gb?
[04:14] <linuxnewbie756> decent, but 4 would be better, right?
[04:14] <cables> linuxnewbie756, yep :)
[04:14] <Xenguy> cables: ?
[04:14] <linuxnewbie756> i have plenty of space on my hard drives
[04:14] <SurfnKid> unop: at least i learned something new about /etc/group today
[04:15] <linuxnewbie756> what about proccesor?
[04:15] <cables> Xenguy, I thought that was hard to set up...
[04:15] <linuxnewbie756> 2.93 ghz CELERON
[04:15] <linuxnewbie756> ???
[04:15] <unop> SurfnKid,  looking good so far -- your group membership looks intact
[04:15] <smaake> Ok Richard Shott
[04:15] <cables> linuxnewbie756, you'll only have a problem if you do processor-intensive things in both OSs.
[04:15] <Doctor> celerons kind of suck for multitasking
[04:15] <Xenguy> cables: I have set up vmware server on buth ubu and deb now - it works :-)
[04:15] <cables> Skuller, did you do what I said in my above message?
[04:15] <ody42> hello
[04:15] <linuxnewbie756> so its kinda like linux sleeps when windows is running?
[04:15] <Aysha> Damnit, where my config for Wine?
[04:15] <linuxnewbie756> thats smart
[04:15] <SurfnKid> unop: which one the sx270?
[04:15] <Richard_2006> smaake NOOB here, sorry to bother you all, but getting frustrated. have loaded ubunto edgy eft 6.10 and while trying to do thinks as directed in documents I keep running into missing icons on the system menu, missing disks and software permissions.
[04:15] <cables> Skuller, scroll up, do that, and come back to tell me what happened.
[04:15] <Skuller> cables, yea dun duna dun dun
[04:15] <ody42> how do i get my nickname in a dark colour
[04:15] <unop> SurfnKid,  you should be able to do this without a hitch now -- cd /var/www; ls -l;
[04:15] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: wind0ze runs inside linux ?
[04:16] <SurfnKid> unop: here's the /etc/group file now that i removed sudo and root http://pastebin.ca/348367
[04:16] <Skuller> cables, jus da reboot now aye?
[04:16] <linuxnewbie756> lol, if you use vmware it doees xenguy
[04:16] <cables> ody42, you don't... it all looks the same here...
[04:16] <Moosejaw> i finally got my at fglrx driver installed...but rending still isn't seen using glxinfo
[04:16] <Moosejaw> what am i missing?
[04:16] <cables> Skuller, not a reboot
[04:16] <tschaka> Aysha winecfg ?
[04:16] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: yes
[04:16] <cchance> How can i make a script exicute at computer startup
[04:16] <SurfnKid> unop: yup, i can browse, just need to make sure I can access this box thru X over on my laptop so i can copy files directly to /var/www/*
[04:16] <cables> Skuller, if you've edited and save the files, close stuff and do ctrl-alt-backspace. Not quite a reboot.
[04:16] <unop> SurfnKid,  whoa .. you've practically made yourself a member of every group in /etc/group -- now thats not good either
[04:16] <Doctor> blah I have a directory exported NFS as rw, and mounted it rw, but I cant write to it
[04:17] <Skuller> cables, ok
[04:17] <Doctor> anyone know how to track that problem down?
[04:17] <cables> Skuller, hold on
[04:17] <Skuller> cables, i'll b bak den
[04:17] <cables> Skuller, you still here?
[04:17] <Skuller> cables, ok
[04:17] <SurfnKid> unop: yeah thats what i noticed to lol, help me out here, give me a list of which ones I need to be part of
[04:17] <SurfnKid> and I'll remove them
[04:17] <Skuller> cables, yea
[04:17] <Aysha> Not working like I think it should. >.<
[04:17] <tschaka> :/
[04:17] <unop> SurfnKid,  this should be enough -- adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,www-data
[04:18] <SurfnKid> k
[04:18] <jonpo> how can i divide network traffic? ie torrents & http go to eth0 and lan traffic goes to eth1?
[04:18] <cables> Skuller, if anything goes wrong and you lose your gui, go into Recovery mode and run this command: "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to restore everything. Write that down!
[04:18] <cchance> How can i make a script exicute at computer startup
[04:18] <Skuller> cables, roger that.....thanx
[04:18] <cables> !startup | cchance
[04:18] <ubotu> cchance: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[04:18] <unop> cchance,  place it in /etc/init.d/ .. make sure it is executable and then use update-rc.d to enable it in runlevel 2
[04:18] <SurfnKid> unop: hmm interesting, im not part of some of those!
[04:19] <SurfnKid> unop: so remove the ones i put,replace with urs. ok hang a sec
[04:19] <DavidCraft> i am trying to set up so that mutiple people can vnc to a ubuntu box and have their own GUI and desktop and so forth. I've managed to read enough documentation to manage to get two X servers running, and to vnc each of them independetly, however, one locks, and they only unlock when you alt+ctrl+F7-F. How do i achieve it so that they can run independently?
[04:19] <unop> SurfnKid,  these are the groups you were in before we got into this mess :)
[04:19] <SurfnKid> unop: ah, ok thats exactly what i need back
[04:19] <cables> DavidCraft, wouldn't it make more sense to use multiple remote X sessions?
[04:20] <Doctor> DavidCraft: xorg and then x11vnc? vncserver way better way to do it
[04:20] <DavidCraft> beings as they are slower then ****, no.
[04:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hey..which torrent client is preffered? Bittornado or azureus /?
[04:20] <cables> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, depends on what's preferred by you.
[04:20] <__mikem> Don't use azureus it sucks
[04:20] <DavidCraft> well, i've asked how to accomplish this ages ago, but was met with much hostility.
[04:20] <SurfnKid> unop: ok done, gonna reboot see if it made a difference
[04:20] <Doctor> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: both are available to windows users ;)
[04:20] <SurfnKid> brb
[04:21] <unop> SurfnKid,  hah, ok :)
[04:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> cables ,i havent tried them .... i want something that is good for newbies to torrents ..
[04:21] <__mikem> Azureus sucks because it is writen in java
[04:21] <SurfnKid> unop: thats the only thing that changed, nothing else
[04:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Doctor , yeah i know ..
[04:21] <DavidCraft> i am wanting to vnc the linux box from possibly windows clients. so i imagine i still wish to do it the way i described.
[04:21] <cables> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, both are fine. Azureus is slow (at running, not at downloading)
[04:21] <SurfnKid> unop: lets hope i can do gksudo users-admin :) brb
[04:21] <DavidCraft> can anyone tell me why only one is useable at a time
[04:21] <Doctor> noobs? try latest official
[04:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> cables ,ok
[04:21] <cables> If Skuller comes back, can someone tell him I'll be right back?
[04:22] <Doctor> DavidCraft: are you running two xorgs with like x11vnc?
[04:22] <DavidCraft> i have no idea
[04:22] <system_e> Hi. Mayby someone know how can I get major and minor number of a devices.
[04:22] <Doctor> dont know what you're doing? :( :(
[04:22] <pbureau> Hello to all
[04:22] <DavidCraft> no, i think im running two x server instances
[04:22] <Skuller> cables, no splash screen
[04:23] <andyaa1> Does the desktop version of Ubuntu have the capability to run LAMP?
[04:23] <variant> system_e: a usb device?
[04:23] <cables> Skuller, hmm... try something 3d-ish to see if it works.
[04:23] <Doctor> DavidCraft: so both of these sessions are accesable by doing CTRL+ALT+F7,8 on the console?
[04:23] <variant> andyaa1: yes
[04:23] <cables> andyaa1, sure.
[04:23] <andyaa1> I found the Apache package is that the same as LAMP?
[04:23] <system_e> No, all devices like hd,usb,net card,etc...
[04:23] <unop> system_e,  if you do a ls -l against the device -- the 5th and 6th feilds correspond to major and minor devices respectively
[04:24] <DavidCraft> yes
[04:24] <pbureau> !lamp andyaa1
[04:24] <cables> andyaa1, no... Apache is part of LAMP.
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lamp andyaa1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <Skuller> cables, just so u noe my desktop luks better....b4  it was off screen n now its all centred....
[04:24] <pbureau> !lamp | andyaa1
[04:24] <ubotu> andyaa1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:24] <cables> Skuller, that probably indicates that it's working
[04:24] <andyaa1> Where do I find a LAMP package?
[04:24] <Skuller> cables, any other way to determine?
[04:24] <system_e> Ok
[04:24] <Doctor> DavidCraft: vncserver doesn't use the video card, but it has some suck problems
[04:24] <variant> system_e: i am not on a unix box right now but i think you will find them under /sys
[04:24] <cables> Skuller, run something 3d... like a screensaver... see if it runs.
[04:24] <cables> Skuller, if there's a change, that prob. means it worked.
[04:25] <Richard_2006> how do I add disk to my system menu??
[04:25] <Moosejaw> i am trying to get beryl to work...and direct rendering is on in my normal session, but when i enter the xgl session it says it is off
[04:25] <Moosejaw> or yes in one session, and no in another
[04:25] <mikejanssen> hmm
[04:25] <system_e> unop: And is 0 0 my RAM?
[04:25] <unop> andyaa1,  install the apache, php/perl/python and mysql packages to get a LAMP server
[04:25] <Moosejaw> how can i fix this?
[04:25] <mikejanssen> just realized i have more boot up options on grub than i used to
[04:25] <mikejanssen> i have generic and 386 now...
[04:26] <mikejanssen> i think i only had generic before..
[04:26] <mikejanssen> ...
[04:26] <cables> mikejanssen, did you install a kernel or install updates recently?
[04:26] <mikejanssen> hmm
[04:26] <unop> system_e,  errm, i'm not sure -- you might want to delve into the documentation about major and minor devices to be sure
[04:26] <SurfnKid> unop: looks good, i can now go into the menu select user/group asks me for password, like it should have, so i think we're good, at least I learned where the main group file is in case I ever do something I shouldnt
[04:26] <mikejanssen> prolly
[04:26] <mikejanssen> heh
[04:26] <mikejanssen> just updates
[04:26] <Quintin> Anytime I have a new skype event, my computer hangs for awhile
[04:26] <andyaa1> Install each on separately
[04:26] <Quintin> any ideas?
[04:26] <andyaa1> one
[04:26] <mikejanssen> havent installed any kernals or anything
[04:26] <rizhun> any hardcore uk in here?
[04:26] <unop> SurfnKid,  okies, looks good then -- now to your original thing -- access to /var/www
[04:27] <SurfnKid> lol
[04:27] <SurfnKid> haha yeah
[04:27] <p3t3rZ> amaroK wont play my music, it skips down to the end of the playlist, can anyone tell me whats wrong?
[04:27] <andyaa1> Which is better teh apache or apache 2?
[04:27] <SurfnKid> unop: i guess i can do that from the /var/www folder permissions right?
[04:27] <mikejanssen> p3t3rZ,  you got the right codecs?
[04:27] <p3t3rZ> i think
[04:27] <SurfnKid> unop: or should i use gksudo users-group
[04:27] <unop> SurfnKid,  do how you originally wanted to do it .. ssh to the remote box -- ls -l /var/www
[04:27] <Skuller> cables, hmm....i wudnt noe any improvements coz i ave neva used scrnsavers b4
[04:28] <Skuller> cables, is ther any other way?
[04:28] <cables> Skuller, run a 3d screensaver. If it runs at an acceptable rate, it's working. You'd know if it wasn't.
[04:28] <unop> gksudo users-admin should work flawlessly now, SurfnKid -- because you were asked for a password when you accessed it through the menu
[04:28] <cables> Skuller, try the command "glxgears" and see how that runs.
[04:29] <p3t3rZ> can sumone help me fix amaroK
[04:29] <SurfnKid> unop: ok here's how i do it, from my laptop i do Connect to Server...  enter the IP, and i get access to it. Also I do use ssh at times via Terminal but i can manage copying files from there, I just really want to copy 2 3 4 or 10 files directly from my desktop to the /var/www folder thru nautilus
[04:29] <SurfnKid> unop: and nautilus sees the /var/www on the remote box
[04:29] <Aysha> I think wine hates me.
[04:29] <ody42> how do i get a webcam installed on amsn
[04:29] <bruenig> you shouldn't drink so much
[04:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Aysha ,why so?
[04:30] <bruenig> !webcam | ody42
[04:30] <ubotu> ody42: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:30] <Aysha> Because I can't find the stupid config file again.
[04:30] <Aysha> And it won't run anything.
[04:30] <unop> SurfnKid,  well the fact you see /var/www through nautilus is promising -- i'm sure you'd be able to copy files across too
[04:30] <ody42> thankyou bud
[04:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Aysha ,ever tried winecfg ?
[04:30] <Aysha> I tried getting to that. I can't seem to.
[04:30] <SurfnKid> unop: i can see it, but cant write to it, only /tmp can be written to, do you think maybe if I set perm on the /var/www it would allow me to?
[04:31] <bruenig> Aysha, did you install wine
[04:31] <Skuller> cables, hmm...gears seem to be smooth runnin n da screensavers are also smooth
[04:31] <Aysha> Yes, I did.
[04:31] <Skuller> cables, another thing...wat about overclocking mah GPU?
[04:31] <cables> Skuller, that means it works.
[04:31] <cables> Skuller, no idea...
[04:31] <Aysha> From the Ubuntu program listing
[04:31] <Aysha> The add/remove thing?
[04:32] <SurfnKid> unop: hmm, permissions are disabled, i cant change them, i wonder why
[04:32] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, you could check the permissions on it yes -- ls -ld /var/www; ls -l /var/www
[04:32] <SurfnKid> ok
[04:32] <Skuller> cables, i saw 3 utils in synaptec....but one was in console, other in GTK and other in Qt...whats the diff?
[04:32] <cables> Skuller, GTK is Gnome, console is commandline, and Qt is for KDE
[04:32] <SurfnKid> drwxrwxr-- 5 www-data www-data 4096 2007-01-31 04:48 /var/www
[04:32] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, im gonna get a cuppa coffee and something to munch on -- i need a source of energy :)
[04:32] <SurfnKid> unop: ok sure
[04:33] <Skuller> cables....ohhh....so i need to be running GTK i guess...and QT wudnt matter either aye?
[04:33] <jontec> god I love adept over your gtk stuff
[04:33] <cables> Skuller, Gnome uses GTK, so if you're on Gnome, you're using GTK
[04:33] <SurfnKid> unop: at least you helped me thru, and i thank you for that, i would have to have researched how to get back, probably would have done it on my own but still, thanks
[04:34] <SurfnKid> unop: ill let you know how it goes if i can get it
[04:34] <SurfnKid> :)
[04:34] <Skuller> cables, wt happens if i try to use an appz based on KDE?
[04:34] <jontec> SurfnKid: whatcha workin' on?
[04:34] <Skuller> cables, if i m runnin GNOME i mean...wich i am i guess
[04:34] <pbureau> okay I have this application I would  like (because I want to try win for fun) install, I ran the software installer through wine and all seemed fine (acdsee 7) I am just confused on how I make the application run now...
[04:34] <cables> Skuller, it'll install about 100 MB of dependencies to make it work.
[04:34] <SurfnKid> jontec: trying to enable write permissions on /var/www folder when i access it via X from another box
[04:35] <jontec> SurfnKid: and sudo chmod 777 /var/www/ doesn't work?
[04:35] <Flannel> jontec, SurfnKid, that's a bad idea.
[04:35] <Skuller> cables, umm....okk...i fink i'll leave da KDE and dependancies topic for now.....already learnt a lot 2dai in ubuntu hehe...not learnt but 'went thru'....
[04:35] <GreyGhost> Aysha , where did u try winecfg ? if u have wine installed it must run ..
[04:35] <SurfnKid> jontec: probadbly does, but when I connect to the remote machine and view the contents thru nautilus, I am not allowed to write to /var/www and I assume its because of permissions
[04:36] <jontec> Flannel: :D should be setup in apache, probably... but if he absolutely wants it to work...
[04:36] <Aysha> Finally found it. Stupid... >.<
[04:36] <cables> Skuller, dependencies are additional programs that are needed to make things work.
[04:36] <Skuller> cables, so now if i wanna play mah usual games i need to get WINE up n runnin i guess
[04:36] <GreyGhost> Aysha ;
[04:36] <GreyGhost> ;)
[04:36] <cables> Skuller, yep... but most don't actually work on wine.
[04:36] <Flannel> SurfnKid: ... right.  You'd be unable to do it through logging in at the machine as well, through nautilus
[04:36] <jontec> SurfnKid: you can't use root to put your files?
[04:36] <Aysha> Still isn't working quite like it should though
[04:36] <jontec> SurfnKid: I mean sudo
[04:36] <Skuller> cables, damn....so arent there like gud 3d games out there foe linux?
[04:37] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:37] <pbureau> okay I have this application I would  like to use, I ran the software installer through wine and all seemed fine (acdsee 7) I am just confused on how I make the application run now...Anyone got a hint ?
[04:37] <Flannel> SurfnKid: gksudo nautilus, although really, you're probbly better off adding yourself the www-data group, if you plan on doing this often.
[04:37] <cables> Skuller, you may need Cedega, which is a gaming-enhanced Wine. To see if stuff will work, go to appdb.winehq.org and look up the games you want to play.
[04:37] <cables> Skuller, some... don't know any, though... I don't do much gaming
[04:37] <GreyGhost> Aysha ,what are u trin to run ? and whats the problem?
[04:37] <freakabcd> does anyone know if enabling/disabling xinerama on the fly(without restarting X) is a feature only available for nvidia ?
[04:37] <freakabcd> possibly due to their driver?
[04:37] <SurfnKid> Flannel: ok good point, but what if the user is from another machine? do i create that user?
[04:37] <freakabcd> cos i want that feature for my i810 too :(
[04:37] <Flannel> SurfnKid: what?  You're logging in as a user...
[04:37] <Skuller> cables, hmm....thnx a lot man....fer all ur help 2dai....i guess i'll b bak wen i need more help...wich i def will
[04:37] <Aysha> I'm trying to get Silent Hill 2 to run.
[04:38] <cables> Skuller, no problem
[04:38] <gothian> anyone using this windows installer thing?..... is it good?.... I can't mess with my work pc
[04:38] <Hobbsee> gothian: it occasionally works
[04:38] <gothian> Hobbsee: LOL
[04:38] <jontec> gothian: the windows installer? It's umm... to install srcibus and speed crunch
[04:38] <jontec> scribus*
[04:39] <SurfnKid> Flannel: let me give you an ex.  i have 3 users on the remote box, a,b,c  and user f on the client only, will i have to create user f on the remote box with users a,b,c ?
[04:39] <jontec> gothian: it doesn't install ubuntu?
[04:39] <wweasel> If I put a script in /etc/cron.daily what user will it be run as?
[04:39] <_moss_> i just typed ping 127.0.0.1 from the kernel how do i escape?
[04:39] <Flannel> SurfnKid: what?  No.  you log in to the remote box with users a/b/c anyway.  You can't login remotely with a user that doesn't exist on that box.
[04:39] <GreyGhost> Aysha ,i havent ever really tried it... whats the error though?
[04:39] <xerophyte> is there anyway you can recover data from a corrupted drive ?
[04:40] <unop> SurfnKid,  i'm back
[04:40] <Aysha> Argh. Now I have to mount a drive
[04:40] <gothian> jontec: I haven't tried yet... I don't want to mess my work pc up
[04:40] <Flannel> SurfnKid: "remote" login means nothing.  All it does is redirect where input/output come from.  As far as the machine is concerned, you're logged in locally
[04:40] <Aysha> It's telling me that it needs a CD, and I can't find my drives to mount. They were there two seconds ago.
[04:40] <gothian> jontec: but I want to use linux at work when I have time
[04:40] <jontec> gothian: but what are you trying to do? I was saying that it doesn't install *ubuntu... but yes, scribus and speedcrunch both work. :D
[04:41] <SurfnKid> Flannel: ahh, right so that brings me to my point then that whatever perm i set locally, I can view them remotely, and also view them thru nautilus?
[04:41] <Hobbsee> gothian: just use a live cd - MUCH safer
[04:41] <wweasel> Someone here definitely knows the answer to my question.  What user will a script in cron.daily run as?
[04:41] <gothian> jontec: LOL
[04:41] <jontec> gothian: oooh... then you need to boot into the live cd... pop in the CD and restart... it doesn't modify the computer at all
[04:41] <gothian> Hobbsee: it is slow as crap
[04:41] <SurfnKid> Flannel: i think ive got what ya mean
[04:41] <Flannel> SurfnKid: No.  Locally stuff affects local stuff, remote stuff affects remote stuff.
[04:41] <Skuller> how do i use wine?...i remember checking it while using add/remove so its mos prolly installed
[04:42] <unop> SurfnKid,  when you use "Connect to Server" .. the remote machine uses the credentials you supply there .. therefore, the permissions you view later are for that user
[04:42] <SurfnKid> Flannel: i probably need to be clear on the terminology
[04:42] <jontec> gothian: then you need a virtual machine or you need DSL or a minimal install on a computer
[04:42] <SurfnKid> unop: the user that would be sittin on-the-remote-box right?
[04:42] <kitche> Skuller: wine /path/to/exe
[04:42] <SurfnKid> unop: Flannel here let me try something brb
[04:42] <unop> SurfnKid,  yep
[04:43] <Aysha> Can I tell a cdrom to mount to a specific drive letter?
[04:43] <Flannel> SurfnKid: When you log in to a machine, whether through a thinclient (or via remote X or whatever), or sitting at a machine somewhere, you log in as a particular user on that machine.  user A, B, or C, in that example.  User F doesn't exist on any box except the one you're sitting at now, itdoesn't exist at the remote box.
[04:43] <gothian> jontec: DSL is boring, and virtual machine is slower than a live cd
[04:43] <_moss_> i just typed ping 127.0.0.1 from the terminal how do i escape?
[04:43] <Skuller> kitche. wine: creating configuration directory '/home/skuller/.wine'...
[04:43] <Skuller> wine: '/home/skuller/.wine' created successfully.
[04:43] <Skuller> wine: cannot find '/path/to/exe'
[04:43] <jontec> Flannel, unop: (why doesn't he just have a public_html directory setup for each user?)
[04:43] <unop> SurfnKid,  it's like this -- you setup a server, can a remote user connecting to it, use his own username and password (that he setup on his box), no.. he has to be authenticated by your server
[04:43] <Skuller> kitche, am i spsed 2 worry about the last line?
[04:43] <jontec> _moss_: rule of thumb... does ctl + c work?
[04:43] <ltl> _moss_ ctrl^c
[04:43] <GreyGhost> !mount | Aysha
[04:43] <ubotu> Aysha: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:44] <unop> jontec,  he wants to have full access over /var/www/ remotely
[04:44] <GreyGhost> err...
[04:44] <kitche> Skuller: /path/to/exe is the exact exe you want to run
[04:44] <Skuller> kitche, lol....sory abt dat...thnx
[04:44] <jontec> unop: okay, then if he can't do it remotely, then he can't do it locally either (I know you guys know this)
[04:45] <Flannel> jontec: that's what were trying to explain to him
[04:45] <jontec> gotcha
[04:45] <SurfnKid> Flannel: unop I got it, this was easy, its the folder permissions that I just needed to fiddle with
[04:45] <unop> SurfnKid,  :)
[04:46] <Flannel> SurfnKid: Add users A B and C to www-data group.  That's probably what you want to do.  chmod is almost never the answer.
[04:46] <SurfnKid> Flannel: unop I just enabled write on the /var/www folder and on another child folder
[04:46] <unop> SurfnKid,  so, what did you have to change?
[04:46] <GreyGhost> Aysha , *hint.. pop into #winehq ... more elpful place ..
[04:46] <AzMoo> How do I see what versions of a package I can install?
[04:46] <unop> SurfnKid,  but didnt we already do that?
[04:46] <SurfnKid> and now i can view it remotely and write to it
[04:46] <jontec> SurfnKid: listen to Flannel... you're compromising your security by chmodding/ chowning the folder of the apache server
[04:46] <unop> AzMoo,  apt-cache policy packagename
[04:46] <AzMoo> unop, cheers.
[04:47] <SurfnKid> unop: this is what i did,   sudo nautilus..  then went to the /var/www propertires, hit permissions enabled WRITE for Other users, and thats it
[04:47] <SurfnKid> Flannel: i didnt use chmod
[04:47] <jontec> (what's nautilus btw, I'm kubuntu user...)
[04:47] <Flannel> SurfnKid: yes youdid.  Just the graphical equivalent.
[04:47] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here using wine?
[04:47] <SurfnKid> Flannel: ok right :P
[04:47] <Flannel> SurfnKid: and, it'd be "gksudo nautilus" not sudo nautilus, nautilus IS a graphical program
[04:48] <SurfnKid> Flannel: argh.. true, so ok ill put it back
[04:48] <jontec> Fanskapet: T_T I have 64-bit... but I have it on my 32-bit....
[04:48] <unop> SurfnKid,  errm, but which permissions did you change?
[04:48] <unop> SurfnKid,  group or world/other?
[04:48] <Flannel> unop: o+w is what he did
[04:49] <SurfnKid> unop: i just added write permissions on Other users, (but I reversed that)
[04:49] <SurfnKid> Flannel: i reversed it, its back the way it was
[04:49] <Flannel> SurfnKid: add A B and C to www-data group, then enable group writing.
[04:49] <unop> Flannel,  thats not good -- his user is not the owner of the directory, but hsi user is a member of the group that owns it
[04:49] <unop> Flannel,  i.e. www-data
[04:49] <mnk0> hi
[04:50] <Flannel> unop: er, a+w not o, sorry.  It's late.
[04:50] <mnk0> anyone got ibm thinkpad t60p ?
[04:50] <SurfnKid> Flannel: wait.. i dont want A B C writing. I just want A  cuz thats the login i use when I log in from my laptop, should i just add A ?
[04:50] <Flannel> SurfnKid: yes.
[04:50] <SurfnKid> k
[04:50] <Skuller> do i need to install DirectX b4 playing a game using WINE?
[04:50] <variant> mnk0: i wish.. can't getthe top of the range ones in this country
[04:50] <variant> Skuller: no
[04:50] <alvarezp> mnk0: t42?
[04:50] <mnk0> variant: heh
[04:50] <Skuller> variant, cool...thnx
[04:50] <unop> SurfnKid,  i prefer you did this command -- sudo chmod -Rv 774 /var/www
[04:50] <jontec> Skuller: if the game uses DirectX, then probably :D
[04:50] <mnk0> alvarezp: t60p
[04:50] <mnk0> im just having issues with sound drivers on it =/
[04:50] <GreyGhost> Skuller ,u cant install DX on linux..
[04:50] <Flannel> unop: no reason to do it recursively.
[04:51] <Skuller> jontec, lol...yea it does...
[04:51] <SurfnKid> Flannel: hmmm its already there... ! how weird
[04:51] <variant> Skuller: wine comes with it's own limmited directx implementation
[04:51] <Skuller> greyghost, then will the game work without it?
[04:51] <sirius> is it emulating if i use wine to play game??
[04:51] <alvarezp> mnk0: try ##ibmthinkpad
[04:51] <variant> mnk0: you doing anything special with the accelerometer?
[04:51] <unop> Flannel,  actually there is reason -- its what he wanted for subdirectories down in it
[04:51] <GreyGhost> Skuller ,wine provides a little wrapper to call OpenGL instead of DX .. so it "should" work
[04:51] <Skuller> variant, limited?...ok...well thnx...hope it works
[04:51] <kb__> sirius: yes
[04:51] <sirius> i mean does it slow down a lot??
[04:51] <kitche> Skuller: wine trys to emulate directx
[04:51] <SurfnKid> Flannel: i went to the group section of the user config of www-data and the username I log in with is already there
[04:51] <variant> kitche: no, it doesnt
[04:51] <variant> kitche: wine implements directx
[04:52] <kb__> sirius: the benchmarks i've seen have shown slowdowns, but stuff should still be playable if it runs
[04:52] <Skuller> k thnx guys...i'll jus install the game n see
[04:52] <Flannel> SurfnKid: then all you need to do is enable writing for the group
[04:52] <variant> Skuller: good choice
[04:52] <Skuller> lol yea ;)
[04:52] <SurfnKid> Flannel: and how do i do that, from the perm folders?
[04:52] <SurfnKid> err folder perm
[04:52] <jontec> T_T I still don't see why he doesn't just use sudo!
[04:52] <jontec> :D
[04:52] <unop> SurfnKid, the command i gave you should have done it
[04:52] <SurfnKid> ah
[04:52] <sirius> kb_ oo okay   thx
[04:53] <variant> mnk0: check this out: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-knockage.html
[04:53] <SurfnKid> unop: when I made the change manually thru the graphical interface, it changed to 774. shouldnt that be the same?
[04:53] <variant> mnk0: if you don't allready know of it, i think it's something you will want to implement
[04:53] <[BTF] Chm0d> whats the extension when you want to install a theme for gnome?  is it *.theme?
[04:53] <rpc> which is better: xinetd or inetd (for a server) ?
[04:53] <belathor> Hi, how do you record yourself with a microphone on ubuntu? I have a microphone that lets me hear myself through the speakers, but it doesn't seem to be recording anything. Thanks.
[04:53] <variant> belathor: try audacity
[04:53] <unop> SurfnKid,  774 is what you want (rwxrwxr--) .. that makes the user have read/write access, the group read/write and others just read
[04:54] <variant> belathor: apt-get install audacity
[04:54] <jontec> SurfnKid, Flannel, unop: ooo... I missed that piece about X, sorry.
[04:54] <GreyGhost> err... ho9w do i open a port ?
[04:54] <GreyGhost> !port
[04:54] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[04:54] <GreyGhost> !firewall
[04:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:54] <scoates> hello
[04:54] <scoates> when I run ksynaptic, I get a message about "Shared Memory is not accessible."  I've added       Option         "SHMConfig" "on"     in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (and yes, I've restarted KDM), but ksynaptic still complains.. ideas?
[04:54] <unop> jontec,  ahh, no, this is from nautilus-connect-server .. not really X over ssh
[04:54] <Skuller> another thing....i used to voice chat wif mah GF on MSN Mess when i was using XP....what can i do to voice chat with her now without causing her trouble of downloading something?
[04:54] <jontec> GreyGhost: please use "/msg ubotu ![something] ", don't spam the thread
[04:55] <mnk0> variant: ok thanks lookin at that now
[04:55] <freakabcd> Skuller, get gaim or amsn or another msn client for linux
[04:55] <jontec> unop: what the heck is that? O_o I think I'm going back to kubuntu
[04:55] <variant> Skuller: there is a dev version of gaim that supportst hat afaik. other than that she will have to download skype or something for linux
[04:55] <kb__> freakabcd: i'm fairly sure gaim doesn't support microphones under linux
[04:55] <GreyGhost> jontec , ok sorry :(
[04:55] <freakabcd> kb__, the dev version sure does!
[04:55] <variant> freakabcd: none of those support video/voice except the dev gaim version
[04:55] <bruenig> jontec, in /msg you don't use !
[04:55] <unop> jontec,  ahh, i forgot you're a KDE user -- it's errm, a utility that mounts remote shares locally
[04:55] <kb__> freakabcd: hm.... I should upgrade then
[04:55] <freakabcd> variant, thats what i meant :)
[04:55] <Skuller> freakabcd, i m using kopete
[04:56] <SurfnKid> Flannel: ok ok ok ok wait wait.. its fixed
[04:56] <SurfnKid> unop: its fixed
[04:56] <SurfnKid> this is what happened
[04:56] <jontec> bruenig: then forget the !, it's one extra character
[04:56] <unop> jontec,  so basically, it's a sftp client (i think)
[04:56] <Skuller> variant, my GAIM crashes everytime i sign in with my MSN acc...so i m using kopete
[04:56] <jontec> unop: ahh... gotcha
[04:56] <jontec> unop: so he can't sudo at all into the other system...
[04:56] <unop> SurfnKid,  working? write access too?
[04:57] <variant> freakabcd: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#vv
[04:57] <jontec> unop: that makes sense... I have to copy the stuff with sftp and the sudo ssh move them
[04:57] <SurfnKid> the username WAS already in www-data, and I already had write access to it. I hadnt checked using nautilus remotely. So yes there is no point in modifying the write permissions thru the grahpical permissions of the folder
[04:57] <unop> jontec,  errm, not with this utility nope.. it's purely for filesystem access
[04:57] <variant> Skuller: sorry, as i said. dev gaim or get her using skype
[04:57] <belathor> variant: The same thing happens in Audacity. I hit record and get no sound.
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> hello, I've got a friend who is using ubuntu edgy eft 6.10
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> he's trying to install the sshd
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> I told him to type sudo apt-get install openssh
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> nothing
[04:57] <Skuller> variant, can u explain me about dev gaim?
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> Link`sAdventure, sudo apt-get install ssh"
[04:57] <SurfnKid> unop: yes i had no idea that when I added sx270 to the www-data it was working, (we pretty much set it up when we reverted the whole deletion of the commands earlier)
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> Thank you
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> :)
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> not openssh
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> oh
[04:57] <unop> jontec,  well, thats exactly what we're trying to avoid -- get the user he uses to log in remotely a member of the group that owns the directory
[04:57] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[04:57] <SurfnKid> unop: so i can read/write to that folder now, finally
[04:57] <Link`sAdventure> r00tintheb0x, my bad
[04:58] <Link`sAdventure> I've been TOO used to Gentoo lately :x
[04:58] <jontec> unop: gotcha...
[04:58] <SurfnKid> Flannel: I got everything you said earlier, I just hadnt checked :)
[04:58] <unop> SurfnKid,  coolies - 5 hours later (ouch) :)
[04:58] <SurfnKid> lol
[04:58] <jontec> lol.
[04:58] <r00tintheb0x> lol Link`sAdventure
[04:58] <Link`sAdventure> rofls
[04:58] <Link`sAdventure> later and thanks again :)
[04:58] <bruenig> rofls
[04:58] <bruenig> hmmm
[04:59] <SurfnKid> this isnt complicated, its just like Win2k admin (of course it came from unix) but I thought linux had a diff way of enabling permissions
[04:59] <freakabcd> variant, and you're wrong in saying that none of those support voice/video
[04:59] <jontec> gentoo's not that bad... I'm not going to use it, but it's not that bad for cli
[04:59] <SurfnKid> ....which i now see its noT!
[04:59] <variant> freakabcd: am i? which ones do?
[04:59] <freakabcd> variant, amsn has supported video since a year ago or so!
[04:59] <variant> Skuller: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gaim-vv/
[04:59] <SurfnKid> unop: heh so thanks i appreciate it
[04:59] <GreyGhost> what port does " sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 6881:6999 -j ACCEPT " open ?
[04:59] <freakabcd> variant, and i HAVE used it
[04:59] <unop> SurfnKid,  but yea, a lesson i have learn't today .. be extremely diligent with remote group membership
[04:59] <freakabcd> voice is unfortunately not there :(
[04:59] <jontec> emerge actually has a search feature (I'm gonna feel stupid if there's a command line apt-get search function_
[04:59] <variant> Skuller: thats a fork of gaim that has such things.. it will probably be merged with gaim at some stage
[04:59] <kitche> GreyGhost: no port you didn't tell it one
[04:59] <variant> freakabcd: ok, you don't need to shout
[04:59] <unop> SurfnKid,  you're welcome :)
[05:00] <variant> freakabcd: thats good.
[05:00] <freakabcd> variant, i just felt like i should pimp my favourite msn client :)
[05:00] <SurfnKid> unop: i had no idea what you were doing, only found out when I noticed the users-admin was screwd, that i pretty much know
[05:00] <Skuller> variant, ohh...i dun get a single thing u just said cept that link u gave wich i m visiting now
[05:00] <cefx> What firewall does ubuntu use by default?
[05:00] <SurfnKid> ok im gonna idle and do some file copying lol
[05:00] <yellow> kitche, this icecast business is really complicated lol
[05:00] <SurfnKid> thanks again all
[05:00] <cefx> I'm running kubuntu
[05:00] <[BTF] Chm0d> does anyone know how to install gdm themes?  I know you are suppose to go to themes and click on install theme but the themes I have d/led from gnome-look.org I cannot get to install they dont have the correct extension
[05:00] <GreyGhost> kitche ,can u please tell me how to open one? i'm total n00b :(
[05:00] <ericj2190> i tried to remove wpasupplicant, but i get "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10"
[05:01] <ericj2190> and now i can't add any packages
[05:01] <kitche> yellow: yeah shoutcast is hard also they don't give documentation lol
[05:01] <unop> SurfnKid,  well, i'm not really sure which command i screwed up on -- but i have a feeling it was on one of the usermod commands where i should have used commas to seperate groups instead of spaces
[05:01] <cefx> Anyone?  I have to see if there's some weird ass firewall setup here on this workstation, running Kubuntu....
[05:01] <yellow> kitche, i just finished configure MuSE
[05:01] <variant> freakabcd: I hate amsn's choice of toolkit
[05:01] <yellow> lol
[05:01] <unop> !language | cefx
[05:01] <ubotu> cefx: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:01] <cefx> iptables!
[05:01] <yellow> kitche, 're we go
[05:02] <freakabcd> variant, me too. but with tcl/tk 8.5 dev kit, it works great! AA and all :)
[05:02] <variant> freakabcd: other than that it's great
[05:02] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm Linuturk lives close to me :P
[05:02] <variant> freakabcd: aa?
[05:02] <freakabcd> anti-aliasing
[05:02] <variant> freakabcd: I thought amsn does not yet support voice anyway.. just video
[05:02] <freakabcd> fonts are just like any other app in gnome.
[05:02] <unop> ericj2190,  errm,c an we have a look at the output you have there
[05:02] <Linuturk> [BTF] Chm0d, what you talkin bout?
[05:02] <unop> !pastebin | ericj2190
[05:02] <ubotu> ericj2190: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <variant> freakabcd: good, about time
[05:03] <freakabcd> variant, yeah amsn doesn;t support voice. but video has been there for more than a year now
[05:03] <[BTF] Chm0d> you live in florida around venice area?
[05:03] <Linuturk> [BTF] Chm0d, no, Tallahassee
[05:03] <Linuturk> [BTF] Chm0d, also, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> ?
[05:04] <freakabcd> [BTF] Chm0d, he means you can keep the off-topic chat there
[05:04] <nnliu> if i format a external harddrive as fat 32, windows will be able to read that right?
[05:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> thats anal
[05:04] <Linuturk> !offtopic
[05:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:04] <Lanlost_> For some reason, on my linux box I can't connect to any wireless servers
[05:04] <ericj2190> !pastebin
[05:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:04] <Lanlost_> Are there any programs that will show all the local connections possible
[05:04] <freakabcd> [BTF] Chm0d, no its not. when you're asking someone where he/she lives its certainly offtopic
[05:04] <Lanlost_> what the hell is going on
[05:05] <freakabcd> Lanlost_, check if the radio is on
[05:05] <Lanlost_> I need a program that shows all wifi servers close.. I've been typing in the ESSID recently
[05:05] <freakabcd> iwconfig
[05:05] <Lanlost_> how do I check that?
[05:05] <Lanlost_> ok
[05:05] <freakabcd> Lanlost_, iwlist eth0 scan
[05:05] <freakabcd> assuming eth0 is your wireless iface
[05:05] <Lanlost_> ra0 is
[05:05] <Lanlost_> where does it say if the radio is on
[05:05] <DavidCraft> ok. so i've been toying with vncserver, and it works very nice, ubuntu is complaining alot, but whatever, anyways, is there any way to specify which user it runs under? so that I could write a script that creates these sessions on bootup
[05:05] <ericj2190> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5000/
[05:05] <Lanlost_> RTS thr: off. fragment thr: off
[05:06] <Lanlost_> mode: managed
[05:06] <freakabcd> ok.
[05:06] <Lanlost_> thats basically all it says
[05:06] <freakabcd> radio is on then
[05:06] <Lanlost_> my question is..
[05:06] <freakabcd> otherwise the first line will say radio off
[05:06] <Lanlost_> where do I see the servers available
[05:06] <freakabcd> Lanlost_, iwlist ra0 scan
[05:06] <Lanlost_> theres no guis?
[05:06] <freakabcd> Lanlost_, well.. you can try knetworkmanager
[05:06] <Lanlost_> thanks
[05:07] <freakabcd> the gnome equivalent absolutely sucks
[05:07] <Lanlost_> there used to be like 10 shown
[05:07] <Lanlost_> now theres only one
[05:07] <unop> DavidCraft,  a vncserver instance runs under the user who launched that command .. so, if user A logs on and starts it like this "vncserver&".. then that instance runs under user A
[05:07] <Lanlost_> I don't understand what happened
[05:07] <Lanlost_> can't I put a tin can over my antenna or something?
[05:07] <freakabcd> hehe
[05:07] <Lanlost_> Is there any easy way to increaes the signal strength?
[05:07] <ericj2190> does anyone know what to do about this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5000/
[05:07] <zynergi> how do i get my wireless internet to connect on ubuntu?
[05:08] <ericj2190> i can't install any packages now
[05:08] <Lanlost_> Link quality: 0/100
[05:08] <unop> DavidCraft, you could have script that launched many instances of vncserver -- but a user needs to be logged on to get the script running
[05:08] <Lanlost_> .. on this laptop which is right next to it
[05:08] <Lanlost_> ts 5 bars
[05:08] <zynergi> i went into network.. the device is enabled.. and i have the information for the ssid all filled in
[05:08] <Lanlost_> and I'm connected
[05:08] <DavidCraft> we've established that.
[05:08] <SurfnKid> Flannel: you know how on Win2k there's groups where you add users, is this just like it?
[05:08] <DavidCraft> the goal is to be able to from script launch a vncserver instance for a specific user
[05:09] <freakabcd> Lanlost_, you sure its not a secure connection ?
[05:09] <zynergi> how do i get my wireless internet to connect on ubuntu?
[05:09] <zynergi> i went into network.. the device is enabled.. and i have the information for the ssid all filled in
[05:09] <Skuller> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=102676&package_id=110101&release_id=315979
[05:09] <Skuller> what do i do after downloadin those files?
[05:09] <sparr> my apps are responding very slowly, and i hear my hard drive(s) thrashing.  top says nothing is using a lot of cpu time, so i assume paging is at fault.  how can i find the app/process responsible for the problem?
[05:09] <NETWizz> Hello
[05:09] <NETWizz> I installed teh latest kernel update
[05:09] <unop> DavidCraft,  you could have root run the script and the script launch vnc server under a user context with sudo .. sudo -U user vncserver
[05:10] <NETWizz> 2.6.17-11
[05:10] <NETWizz> The problem is this
[05:10] <NETWizz> X-Windows won't load anymore
[05:10] <NETWizz> :-)
[05:10] <Marupa> is there a way to mount an sftp directory?
[05:10] <NETWizz> I mean :(
[05:10] <freakabcd> NETWizz, are you using an nvidia graphic card ?
[05:10] <unop> Marupa,  use nautilus-connect-server
[05:10] <variant> unop: running an unencrypted vnc server as root? did i miss somthing here?
[05:11] <Skuller> how do i install fork of GAIM after downloading the files from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=102676&package_id=110101&release_id=315979
[05:11] <Marupa> unop:  I mean so I can read it in Kate.
[05:11] <unop> variant,  not root obviously -- as the user passed to sudo :)
[05:11] <KermitJr> Anyone familiar with xmacro?
[05:11] <DavidCraft> unop: I tried that, gave me an error with writing the log file and another file
[05:11] <variant> !compile > Skuller
[05:11] <unop> Marupa,  ohh, you're using kde .. i have no idea then
[05:11] <variant> Skuller: see the message from ubotu
[05:11] <Marupa> no, using gnome.
[05:11] <KermitJr> I'm wondering... How do I stop a macro once it starts playing? ie... how to interrupt?
[05:11] <Marupa> KDE apps run perfectly fine under gnome.
[05:12] <unop> DavidCraft, ok, what are the errors? please !pastebin
[05:12] <DavidCraft> kk one sec
[05:12] <unop> Marupa,  nautilus-connect-server it is then
[05:12] <zynergi> how do i get my wireless internet to connect on ubuntu?
[05:12] <zynergi> i went into network.. the device is enabled.. and i have the information for the ssid all filled in
[05:12] <variant> KermitJr: you mean in openoffice?
[05:12] <Marupa> will that allow text editors to see the share?
[05:12] <Marupa> cause last time I tried it wouldn't.
[05:13] <unop> Marupa, well, it mouonts remote shares locally .. so any applications should see files in those shares locally
[05:13] <freakabcd> Marupa, it will be mounted.
[05:13] <Skuller> variant wha message from ubotu?
[05:13] <freakabcd> so _all_ apps should see it
[05:13] <SurfnKid> unop: http://66.68.242.167/chernobyl/911.wmv <- some of the stuff I was going to share with some friends :)
[05:13] <Skuller> variant...ohh..lol..nm
[05:13] <variant> !compile | Skuller
[05:13] <freakabcd> !compile | Skuller
[05:13] <ubotu> Skuller: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:13] <freakabcd> lol
[05:14] <SurfnKid> unop: was the reason for write enabling on that dir
[05:14] <KermitJr> Variant: no, using xmacro - xmacrorec2 and xmacroplay
[05:14] <simprix> Does ubuntu have a recovery mode to restore the /bin directory
[05:14] <Marupa> unop, freakabcd:  where is it mounted in the FS?
[05:14] <unop> Marupa,  thats what you specify in "connect to server"
[05:15] <threethirty> is anyone here using beryl in edgy
[05:15] <unop> SurfnKid,  ok, i tried to stream that but its too slow, its downloading now :)
[05:15] <NETWizz> PM) freakabcd: NETWizz, are you using an nvidia graphic car
[05:15] <NETWizz> Yes, Nvidia
[05:15] <GreyGhost> !GRUB | Aysha
[05:15] <ubotu> Aysha: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:15] <NETWizz> I have nvidia-glx installed
[05:15] <variant> KermitJr: never used those.. if it's a command line program youc an stop it with ctrl z. use "jobs" command to list currently paused jobs and %# to start a specific job. if there is only one job just run "%" on it's own
[05:15] <NETWizz> After the latest kernel it went el poucho
[05:15] <SurfnKid> unop: np, its my homelan  12 to 16kbps
[05:15] <NETWizz> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[05:15] <DavidCraft> !pastebin
[05:15] <NETWizz> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
[05:15] <NETWizz> OpenGL version string: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 97.46
[05:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <spasticteapot> Hello!
[05:15] <zynergi> how do i get my wireless internet to connect on ubuntu?
[05:15] <zynergi> i went into network.. the device is enabled.. and i have the information for the ssid all filled in
[05:15] <freakabcd> NETWizz, lol. so slow. install the nvidia driver again
[05:16] <unop> SurfnKid,  yea, 14.62k :)
[05:16] <Marupa> unop:  I'm not sure I understand.
[05:16] <NETWizz> I installed it from a custom repo
[05:16] <GreyGhost> Aysha ,look at recovering after windows install ....
[05:16] <NETWizz> Will I need to install it again
[05:16] <NETWizz> or do I need to compile it?
[05:16] <NETWizz> Is it compatible?
[05:16] <NETWizz> That is what I am basically asking
[05:16] <kitche> simprix EASIER TO JUST REINSTALL
[05:16] <freakabcd> NETWizz, err.. isn;t it a .run file ?
[05:16] <NETWizz> I don't knwo
[05:16] <freakabcd> i mean its a binary from nvidia right?
[05:16] <NETWizz> I did this
[05:16] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to run off a .iso file as if it were a CD?
[05:16] <kitche> bah caps my cat is infront of the keyboard
[05:16] <NETWizz> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:16] <simprix> kitche: this is a server is there a better way
[05:16] <spasticteapot> I don't have a hard drive, and I want to play Icewind Dale.
[05:16] <grigora> does anyone know how to put a laptop to sleep from command line?
[05:17] <NETWizz> It just used to work
[05:17] <freakabcd> spasticteapot, mount -o loop bleh.iso /tmp/mountpoint
[05:17] <Aysha> Now, do I want to overwrite the MBR for Windows or what?
[05:17] <simprix> kitche: This is a server
[05:17] <NETWizz> @Aysha, yes if you want to install Grub
[05:17] <zynergi> how do i get my wireless internet to connect on ubuntu?
[05:17] <zynergi> i went into network.. the device is enabled.. and i have the information for the ssid all filled in
[05:17] <spasticteapot> freakabcd: mount -o loop <name>.iso /tmp/<cd1>
[05:17] <kitche> simprix: well you could reinstall just the base
[05:17] <spasticteapot> Is that correct?
[05:17] <Aysha> I want to use Linux as my primary OS, but I want to have Windows 98 for my gaming.
[05:17] <SurfnKid> zynergi: what kind of card is it?
[05:18] <simprix> kitche: any trick. I don't have anything in /bin or /usr/bin
[05:18] <GreyGhost> Aysha ,AFAIK .... Windows doesnt give u a choice .. ;)
[05:18] <spasticteapot> Aysha: Don't bother.
[05:18] <zynergi> broadcom
[05:18] <freakabcd> spasticteapot, yeah. make sure you do 2 things: (1) run that cmd as root (2) the mount point dir should exist
[05:18] <SurfnKid> zynergi: 4319?
[05:18] <zynergi> its showing the wireless card as eth1
[05:18] <spasticteapot> Aysha: you'll get Win98-equivalent compatibility with win98.
[05:18] <Marupa> so what are 'folder' and 'name to use for connection' in Connect to Server?
[05:18] <unop> Marupa,  hold up, i'm trying this out here :)
[05:18] <GreyGhost> !GRUB |Aysha
[05:18] <ubotu> Aysha: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:18] <kitche> simprix: umm that is hard to recover from without a reinstall
[05:18] <zynergi> let me check SurfnKid.. im not sure
[05:18] <cafuego_> zynergi: Which broadom, and which driver are you using?
[05:18] <spasticteapot> freakabcd: Can I Sudo that, and what do you mean by "the mount point dir should exist"?
[05:18] <GreyGhost> Aysha ,thats why u'll needda reinstalld grub ..
[05:18] <zynergi> whatever ubuntu installed for me
[05:18] <cafuego_> zynergi: 'lspci' should tell you.
[05:18] <zynergi> as the default
[05:18] <zynergi> k
[05:18] <zynergi> sec
[05:18] <Aysha> Yeah, I'm looking at the page, actually.
[05:18] <cafuego_> zynergi: Ok, bcm43xx. That may work, but *will* need firmware files.
[05:18] <SurfnKid> zynergi: try ndiswrapper or fwcutter to get it running
[05:18] <DavidCraft> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5002/
[05:19] <GreyGhost> Aysha ,so read thoroughly before u install windws .... and then when u know what to do... install win ..
[05:19] <Aysha> I'm just trying to figure out how to make it work. I want my full HD.
[05:19] <freakabcd> spasticteapot, yes sudo will work. mkdir /tmp/dodo; sudo mount -o loop bleh.iso /tmp/dodo
[05:19] <SurfnKid> zynergi: i have a bc card too, with few steps, I got my Wifi card running
[05:19] <spasticteapot> Cool.
[05:19] <Aysha> Meh. I guess I'll have to do this later. I have an assignment due tonight.
[05:19] <cafuego_> zynergi: Fetch and install http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[05:19] <dks_> anyone know anything about running PCI-E video along with onboard video for three monitors?
[05:19] <zynergi> bcm4318
[05:19] <simprix> kitche: is there a way to put up into recovery mode and pull the data off at least
[05:19] <GreyGhost> Aysha ,best of luck at that...
[05:19] <GreyGhost> oh well... cya all ...
[05:20] <zynergi> it has broadcom corp bcm4318 air force one 54g
[05:20] <kitche> simprix: with a livecd you can
[05:20] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to make junky old PCMCIA CD-ROM drives work?
[05:20] <cafuego_> zynergi: Ya, ^^
[05:20] <spasticteapot> I have one, and it won't work under Linux.
[05:20] <freakabcd> dks_, uh.. ask in xorg i guess
[05:20] <spasticteapot> It's a pity - I don't have an internal one.
[05:20] <simprix> kitche: thanks sounds like I have a long weekend ahead of me
[05:20] <zynergi> k
[05:20] <zynergi> i'll install http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[05:20] <SurfnKid> zynergi: oh I have a 4308 nevermind, might wanna try cafuego_ 's steps
[05:20] <dks_> tnx freakabcd
[05:20] <zynergi> uhm
[05:20] <cafuego_> SurfnKid: Mine's a 4306. But my firmware is apparently known to work with 4318s :-)
[05:20] <zynergi> does ubuntu have something like, emerge or yum install, or apt-get
[05:20] <zynergi> etc etc?
[05:21] <Marupa> ubuntu is debian base:  apt-get
[05:21] <dxdt> zynergi, lol apt-get yeah it has that
[05:21] <zynergi> oh
[05:21] <unop> DavidCraft, i'd like you to paste the exact commands you are using
[05:21] <zynergi> well then, indeed
[05:21] <cafuego_> zynergi: After fetching the .deb, use 'sudo dpkg -i ,debfile>'
[05:21] <zynergi> i just know ubuntu is supposed to work well with laptops and wifi
[05:21] <zynergi> thats why i grabbed it ;p
[05:21] <cafuego_> zynergi: It depends a bit on the wifi, but yours has been reported to work.
[05:21] <SurfnKid> cafuego_: interesting well I tried fwcutter and wlapsa or whatever the name is, and nothingg worked, only ndiswrapper ( and the driver was the one I originally used on breezy ) and Ive kept the driver all this time
[05:22] <Marupa> as long as you don't have a really off-brand wifi adapter, yes, zynergi.
[05:22] <User2323> hello, how do I get the C header files for the new edgy kernel that was just updated? I need them to make vmware work again
[05:22] <DavidCraft> sudo -u username vncserver
[05:22] <cafuego_> SurfnKid: My package uses a propery cut wp_apsta.o
[05:22] <SurfnKid> cafuego_: cool well i might try that in the future, im stickin with bcmwl5.inf :P
[05:22] <dxdt> zynergi, if you have intel wireless stuff, you are pretty well golden at this point I think.  I mean my intel wireless for the last two releases of Ubuntu has worked out of the box
[05:23] <dxdt> I'm not sure about other ones, but yeah that's my experience
[05:23] <gradin> join #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <gradin> blah
[05:23] <pirate-king> hello
[05:23] <Marupa> Trendnet 424 v2s don't work as far as I can te..
[05:23] <Marupa> tell*
[05:23] <cafuego_> User2323: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:24] <gradin> so heres my situation... i accidentally upgraded to fiesty instead of edgy...
[05:24] <User2323> thanks cafuego, I thought it would be something like that but I didn't know the package name
[05:24] <cafuego_> SurfnKid: my 4306 runs ahappily on both intel and ppc, talking to a wpa2+radius wlan.
[05:24] <gradin> i've managed to wrestle back control of my box so i have access to my files via ssh, scp and samba
[05:24] <ericj2190> whydo i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5003/ when i try to install any package?
[05:24] <gradin> i've been able to redo my sources list and switch it back to edgy
[05:25] <User2323> cafuego, it says "Package linux-headers is not installed, so not removed"
[05:25] <gradin> how can i tell apt-get to downgrade all my packages?
[05:25] <kitche> !downgrade | gradin
[05:25] <ubotu> gradin: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:25] <SurfnKid> cafuego_: hmm ill keep that in mind for future projects, you're the right person to ask :D
[05:25] <pirate-king> :-*
[05:25] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know if PCMCIA CD-ROM drive support can be added?
[05:26] <cafuego_> SurfnKid: Well, the pc one has gone bendy, so I got myself a new atheros card.
[05:26] <spasticteapot> I looked into compiling a custom kernel, and as far as I know, IDE to PCMCIA was disabled.
[05:26] <wist> hey guys, i just installed edubuntu recently, but there's no traceroute command do i need to install a specific package for that ?
[05:26] <gradin> kitche the new version is broke anyway so its not like its gonna make it any better...
[05:26] <spasticteapot> Atheros is good stuff.
[05:26] <User2323> cafuego, I changed $(uname -r) to `uname -r` in your command and it seems to be working
[05:26] <zynerg1> test.
[05:26] <SurfnKid> cafuego_: oh man, those things are rad, powerful things
[05:26] <Linuturk> cool
[05:26] <Linuturk> update worked
[05:26] <cafuego_> User2323: Using a non-bash shell?
[05:27] <unop> Marupa,  looks like i overlooked the fact you could not mount a sftp/ssh location locally .. but i found this http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
[05:27] <Marupa> yep.  found that too.
[05:27] <User2323> cafuego, I haven't changed the default shell so I assume it is bash...how do I check for sure?
[05:27] <unop> Marupa,  or a discussion about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270806
[05:27] <cafuego_> sshfs is in edgy eh
[05:27] <unop> User2323,  echo $SHELL
[05:27] <cafuego_> User2323: echo $SHELL
[05:27] <Moosejaw> hey all...
[05:27] <User2323> it says /bin/bash
[05:28] <freakabcd> Marupa, the thing is: when you use connect to server... from gnome. its actually running a ssh cmdline as _user_
[05:28] <cafuego_> SurfnKid: Well, as it turns out perhaps not.
[05:28] <freakabcd> hence it will not be available as a 'mount point' on the system
[05:28] <Marupa> I'm just trying to save myself four steps while updating stuff.  And I know it's possible, just not sure how.
[05:28] <Moosejaw> when i login to gnome glxinfo says direct rendering: yes.  But when I login to Xgl it says direct rendering: no.  Can someone help???
[05:29] <freakabcd> its more like saying: 'i ssh into a server from one X terminal. Now i should be able to access the same files from a gnome-terminal without doing anything special'
[05:29] <zynergi> i'll install http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[05:29] <zynergi> After fetching the .deb, use 'sudo dpkg -i ,debfile>'
[05:29] <oggie> hello people
[05:29] <J-_> !downgrade
[05:29] <J-_> not sure, if there was a solution, I figured there would of been a trigger set.
[05:29] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:29] <yellow> elo oggie
[05:29] <oggie> im new with ubuntu..
[05:29] <oggie> 64-bit software
[05:29] <oggie> version 5.1
[05:29] <User2323> anyway, thanks cafuego and unop, I'm going to go see if vmware works now
[05:30] <negen> can any one give me a little help with Aiglx
[05:30] <kitche> negen: what do you need help with?
[05:30] <unop> freakabcd,  on the other hand theres instances where a _user_ can mount a usb drive to /media/USBDRIVE  .. gnome_vfs is just plain funny on occasions
[05:30] <IcemanV9> dapper kernel is STILL not resolved! :/
[05:30] <Skuller> umm....i am still struggling....but how do i get this thing installed in 'simple noob terms'?
[05:30] <Skuller> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gaim-vv/
[05:30] <yellow> IcemanV9,  is that with 2.6.15.25 ?
[05:30] <Moosejaw> anyone?
[05:30] <Moosejaw> when i login to gnome glxinfo says direct rendering: yes.  But when I login to Xgl it says direct rendering: no.  Can someone help???
[05:30] <freakabcd> unop, indeed. i absolutely do _not_ like that behaviour
[05:30] <IcemanV9> yellow: yea
[05:30] <freakabcd> its messed up.
[05:30] <negen> i have it installed but get this commen error seems to be a fix but really no instructions  Checking for GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap        : failed
[05:31] <oggie> HELLO?>
[05:31] <kitche> Moosejaw: xgl takes direct rendering away
[05:31] <Moosejaw> hrm...
[05:31] <Moosejaw> but i need it dont i?
[05:31] <Moosejaw> for an ati driver?
[05:31] <kitche> Moosejaw: you have it just that XGL takes it away
[05:31] <unop> freakabcd,  well not really, it's just not consistent -- user's mounting devices should be allowed but if you allow it with devices, why not with other protocols?
[05:31] <IcemanV9> !aiglx | negen
[05:31] <ubotu> negen: AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[05:31] <yellow> IcemanV9,  i did update then upgrade then the update reminder quit bugging
[05:31] <Marupa> how do you check what groups you're in again?
[05:31] <ericj2190> why do i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5003/ when i try to install any package?
[05:31] <unop> Marupa,  id  or groups
[05:31] <Marupa> thanks
[05:32] <Moosejaw> i probably have to reinstall beryl
[05:32] <Moosejaw> i will try that
[05:32] <kitche> negen: what driver are you using?
[05:32] <yellow> oggie, what do you need ?
[05:32] <freakabcd> unop, yes. thats what i mean. there needs to a some sort of standard and consistency
[05:32] <oggie> I WANT TO LEARN ABOUT linux
[05:32] <Marupa> ericj2190, type sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:32] <IcemanV9> yellow: i upgraded yesterday or two .. three packages are being held back, so i do not want to bother with it until it is fixed.
[05:32] <oggie> shellcommand etc
[05:32] <gradin> !upgrade
[05:32] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:33] <gradin> !feisty
[05:33] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:33] <oggie> does the software updates upgrade your version of Ubuntu?
[05:33] <oggie> does the software updates upgrade your version of Ubuntu?
[05:33] <oggie> does the software updates upgrade your version of Ubuntu?
[05:33] <oggie> does the software updates upgrade your version of Ubuntu?
[05:33] <cafuego_> oggie: Lesson #1: Do not spam.
[05:33] <kitche> !repeat | oggie and no
[05:33] <ubotu> oggie and no: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:33] <IcemanV9> !ops
[05:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:33] <cafuego_> oggie: Lesson #2: Do not use CAPS
[05:34] <oggie> sprru
[05:34] <oggie> sorry
[05:34] <DBO> oggie, watch it
[05:34] <Linuturk> :)
[05:34] <Skuller> umm....i am still struggling....but how do i get this thing installed in 'simple noob terms'?
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/gaim-vv/
[05:34] <yellow> oggie, http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[05:34] <r00tintheb0x> oogie repeat your problem please.
[05:34] <r00tintheb0x> i'll help
[05:35] <Marupa> oh, and for future reference everyone:
[05:35] <SurfnKid> whoa DBO i hardly see u here :)
[05:35] <nalioth> !tell oggie about repeat
[05:35] <Marupa> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[05:35] <DavidCraft> can anyone tell me why this is the result from running the command sudo -u username vncserver : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5002/
[05:35] <nalioth> DBO is an imposter  :D
[05:35] <SurfnKid> yes i know :P
[05:35] <oggie> r00tintheb0x ..i really am not encountering right now..im just new with ubuntu..and i still have no idea how can i be productive with this
[05:36] <r00tintheb0x> oggie, what do you need to do with Ubuntu?
[05:36] <slvmchn> is there a page that lists all the ! commands in here?
[05:36] <freakabcd> anyone know how i enter characters using their keycodes ?
[05:36] <oggie> i'd like to make use of the terminal..for shell scripting?
[05:36] <IcemanV9> oggie: give it a few weeks, then you'll be productive with ubuntu compared to your last OS (assumed Win32)
[05:36] <yellow> slvmchn,  oggie , http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[05:36] <slvmchn> many thanks yellow
[05:37] <r00tintheb0x> oggie.. then open up ksh or bash or sh or something
[05:37] <yellow> np
[05:37] <r00tintheb0x> applications>accessories>terminal
[05:37] <oggie> sorry i close my window
[05:37] <oggie> can you repeat that r00tintheb0x\
[05:38] <r00tintheb0x> applications>accessories>terminal
[05:38] <quaal> does anyone have any bright ideas on how to mount a raid-0 partition ?
[05:39] <unop> Marupa,  does the remote location have to be mounted on the file system ?? because if you use nautilus-connect-server to connect a a location -- you then have a location in gnome/gnome_vfs that most gnome compatible applications (like gedit) can access
[05:39] <robbie_crash> quaal does it show up in your device manager?
[05:39] <Marupa> just follow that guide, unop, and it works like a charm
[05:39] <oggie> do  you know where I can download MP3'
[05:39] <quaal> robbie_crash, let me check
[05:39] <oggie> how do i use the bitorent
[05:40] <quaal> oggie, go to a torrent site
[05:40] <quaal> and search for your beloved mp3's
[05:40] <unop> Marupa,  i find nautilus-connect-server works a charm too -- without the pain of fuse/sshfs
[05:40] <robbie_crash> oggie, install a client first though
[05:40] <oggie> where do i find a torrent site? could you recommend one
[05:40] <r00tintheb0x> oggie, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144546
[05:40] <robbie_crash> azureus works
[05:40] <robbie_crash> usually
[05:41] <Marupa> unop:  nautilus-connect-server doesn't allow stuff like kate, textedit or whatever (or even a console) to surf the mounted share.
[05:41] <robbie_crash> quual, does it show up? Also is it a hardware controlled RAID 0 array or a software one?
[05:41] <negen> i wonder if trading a 10megabit connection for a 1.5 is worth saving 25$ dollars a month
[05:41] <unop> SurfnKid,  how'd you mount your ssh location locally?
[05:41] <quaal> robbie_crash, the drives show up in device manager.
[05:41] <Linuturk> negen, nope
[05:42] <quaal> robbie_crash, this is my fdisk output: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557&page=4
[05:42] <Marupa> unop:  Click that link I sent a bit ago.  It's the only way to do it.  Trust me.
[05:42] <quaal> (scroll to end of page)
[05:42] <negen> i agree
[05:42] <robbie_crash> quaal: get the uuid and edit it into your fstab file
[05:42] <quaal> robbie_crash, how do i find out if it is a hardware controlled or software controlled raid ?
[05:42] <oggie> thank you
[05:42] <oggie> all
[05:43] <unop> Marupa,  it's not the only way -- there's a couple and i'm interested in the way that requires the least being installed
[05:43] <quaal> after bios boot, i see entries for the Sil3112A card, with the drives
[05:43] <quaal> must mean hardware ?
[05:43] <robbie_crash> yeah
[05:43] <robbie_crash> if it's coming up before your OS is loading it's hardware
[05:43] <Marupa> four things isn't much to install.
[05:43] <robbie_crash> and if it's showing up in your device manager as a drive it should load properly
[05:43] <DavidCraft> can anyone tell me why this is the result from running the command sudo -u username vncserver : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5002/ ?  i cant figure it out
[05:43] <unop> Marupa, what i mean is - it's still 4 things
[05:43] <robbie_crash> you need to do this:
[05:44] <robbie_crash> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:44] <robbie_crash> then add a line something like
[05:44] <quaal> robbie_crash, yes i placed an fstab line
[05:44] <ardchoille> !gksudo > robbie_crash
[05:44] <robbie_crash> ok
[05:44] <quaal> robbie_crash, /dev/sdc1	/mnt/raid	ntfs	umask=0222	0	0
[05:44] <robbie_crash> what's the big difference between gksudo and sudo?
[05:45] <Skuller>  umm....i am still struggling....but how do i get this thing installed in 'simple noob terms'?
[05:45] <Skuller> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gaim-vv/
[05:45] <robbie_crash> you need to put in the UUID
[05:45] <ardchoille> robbie_crash: That pm should have explained it
[05:45] <robbie_crash> or at least I did
[05:45] <unop> DavidCraft,  how about this -- sudo -u username sh -c "echo $USERl vncserver"
[05:45] <IcemanV9> gksudo = gui & sudo = cli
[05:45] <quaal> robbie_crash, uuid.. hmm
[05:45] <quaal> i have nother ntfs drive mounted the same format
[05:45] <quaal> succesfully
[05:45] <robbie_crash> I tried mounting my raid array with the /dev/ name, and it didn't work
[05:45] <quaal> the drive is also on the same type of raid controller, sil3112a, just not in a raid array
[05:45] <robbie_crash> so I added the UUID in there instead and it loaded fine for me
[05:45] <quaal> hmm
[05:45] <quaal> how do i find the uuid ?
[05:46] <robbie_crash> device manager
[05:46] <kitche> robbie_crash: well you can mount it either witht he uuid or witht he device names
[05:46] <robbie_crash> click on the drive
[05:46] <robbie_crash> then go to the very bottom
[05:46] <unop> DavidCraft,  oops, correction -- sudo -u username sh -c "echo $USER; vncserver"
[05:46] <knovak> In GNOME, how do you add options to the Send-To Menu (when you right click)
[05:46] <cafuego_> quaal: some sil3112 cards need to be flashed with firmware to make them run in not-raid mode.
[05:46] <quaal> cafuego, the partition in question is running raid-0
[05:46] <robbie_crash> kitche: I know you should be able to, but for me I couldn't mount my raid array with the dev name, I had to use the UUID
[05:47] <unop> knovak,  look into enabling "nautilus scripts"
[05:47] <SilenceGold> you mean aid 0?
[05:47] <oggie> !quit
[05:47] <SilenceGold> with no R?
[05:47] <cafuego_> quaal: sil raid or linux md-raid?
[05:47] <SilenceGold> :p
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <knovak> Will do
[05:47] <quaal> robbie_crash, volume.uuid = strlist ?
[05:47] <DavidCraft> o_o ok... lemme try that, thank you
[05:47] <xoxoxo> Question: After restaring the computer i cant get to any website through firefox, however thunderbird and skype are working fine, now i logged in from live cd and that is working fine too. Any idea how i get my internet connection back?
[05:47] <quaal> cafuego, uh.. the raid was made in windows.. so i guess sil raid ?
[05:47] <quaal> SilenceGold, raid-0 yes
[05:48] <cafuego_> quaal: Hmm. then you'll need dmraid (device-mapper) which means you may be in for a world of pain.
[05:48] <quaal> cafuego, i installed it
[05:48] <quaal> cafuego, i've followed the only howto i could find on the forums.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557&page=1
[05:48] <quaal> and posted in it
[05:48] <robbie_crash> quaal: yes
[05:48] <quaal> not much luck though
[05:49] <quaal> robbie_crash, so you just replace /dev/sc1 with strlist ?
[05:49] <x2mjokada> I just connected a hard drive to my comp, so that i could copy a video file to that hard drive, but it doesn't seem to show up when i look at 'computer'.  However, it does read the drive through gparted. Does anyone know what to do?
[05:49] <DavidCraft> same thing occures
[05:49] <IcemanV9> xoxoxo: check your firefox option (connection settings)
[05:49] <jordguitar> Hi again
[05:49] <jordguitar> I got ubuntu on my computer
[05:50] <robbie_crash> UUID=*********   /media/raid  ntfs defaults 0 	1
[05:50] <yellow> jordguitar, congratz!
[05:50] <quaal> robbie_crash, it seems there is no value for volume.uuid key
[05:50] <quaal> it is blank under the "value" column
[05:50] <robbie_crash> O_o
[05:50] <quaal> the other drives have a string of characters there
[05:50] <jordguitar> but now I need help installing cabextract-1.1 and ndiswrapper-1.37
[05:51] <DavidCraft> for some reason it is tryin gto access /root/.Xauthority instead of /username/.Xauthority
[05:51] <cafuego_> robbie_crash: If it's part of a raid0 array, he'll need to somehow make dm start the array and them mount /dev/dm/0 or somesuch, no?
[05:51] <quaal> hmm
[05:51] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: sudo aptitude install <package name>
[05:51] <robbie_crash> you're beyond my scope of knowledge then
[05:51] <slyfox> What do you guys think about Canonical and Linspire deal? I read a few articles saying that it is bad idea and that can even be  the end of Linux as we know it.
[05:51] <quaal> it gives me the option to put a value in the volume.uuid
[05:51] <quaal> but i dont know if thats a good idea
[05:51] <robbie_crash> it's ntfs yeah?
[05:52] <kitche> !offtopic | slyfox
[05:52] <ubotu> slyfox: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:52] <robbie_crash> cafuego, if it's hardware controlled it should just show up as a hard drive, shouldn't it?
[05:52] <jordguitar> the terminal wont pull up
[05:53] <panickedthumb> hi guys... is the kernel update problem fixed? Looks like a different version in the update manager now
[05:53] <x2mjokada> can anyone help me with my problem?
[05:54] <jordguitar> Also my graphics are going extreamly slow
[05:54] <pibarnas> x2mjokada what's it?
[05:54] <x2mjokada> i posted it above
[05:54] <x2mjokada> I just connected a hard drive to my comp, so that i could copy a video file to that hard drive, but it doesn't seem to show up when i look at 'computer'.  However, it does read the drive through gparted. Does anyone know what to do?
[05:54] <jordguitar> I scroll up and down and lags really bad
[05:54] <pibarnas> I've just entered, didin't see.
[05:54] <x2mjokada> there
[05:54] <jordguitar> It is a ATI Radion
[05:55] <robbie_crash> x2mjokada: is the hard drive mounted?
[05:55] <jordguitar> Gah... I will be back in a bit.
[05:55] <x2mjokada> yea, it should be
[05:55] <wolfwalker> The computer in question (not this one I'm on right now) is slow, old, not really worth upgrading. I'm wanting to know what the maximum swap space (Linux's version of vram) can be before it stops increasing speed and starts slowing things down.
[05:55] <pibarnas> x2mjokada in a term do dmesg | less and see what is the device the system named the HD, then mount it.
[05:55] <mister_roboto> x2mjokada: does itr show when u type mount?
[05:55] <anandanbu> can someone help me with the internet connection problem
[05:56] <x2mjokada> oh, no
[05:56] <mister_roboto> x2mjokada: then it's not mounted
[05:56] <wolfwalker> The computer I'm installing linux on is an old one, Celeron processor, 256 megs ram. How much swap can I assign?
[05:57] <wolfwalker> Will too much swap slow the computer down instead of speeding it up?
[05:57] <Polygon89> wolfwalker, ive heard that double of the ram is a good amount
[05:57] <pibarnas> x2mjokada is the HD formatted? What's the file system?
[05:57] <Polygon89> so, 512 should be good
[05:57] <wolfwalker> But would more be better?
[05:57] <x2mjokada> pibarnas, it is a blank hd
[05:57] <robbie_crash> 512-768
[05:57] <Polygon89> wolfwalker, and swap is just like a scratch pad, its basically virtural ram
[05:58] <Polygon89> wolfwalker, you wont need more then double the amount of ram that you have. So if you assign more it wont be used and just take up hd space that could be used for something else
[05:58] <quaal> robbie_crash, sorry yes, it is ntfs
[05:58] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[05:58] <verbose> is there a way to find out what grub calls one of my drives? as in, whether it's (hd0,0) (hd1,0) (sd0,0) etc
[05:58] <Polygon89> wolfwalker, its used in case the actual ram is full and it needs somewhere to put memory, and also is used for hibernate
[05:58] <PwcrLinux> Hello all :)
[05:58] <robbie_crash> quaal: I wouldn't do anything to change any of its data then. Linux ntfs support is best left at read only
[05:58] <boredandblogging> hello
[05:59] <Polygon89> verbose one sec im double checking it
[05:59] <verbose> thanks
[05:59] <x2mjokada> how should i mount the HD?
[05:59] <robbie_crash> anyone here want to give me some help with a weird azureus problem, in pm so I don't have to take up space in channel?
[05:59] <verbose> x2mjokada: if it's blank you need to partition it, then create a filesystem
[06:00] <verbose> you can use fdisk to partition it and mke2fs to create the fs
[06:00] <verbose> if you want ext2 or ext3
[06:00] <verbose> there's also mkreiserfs et al
[06:00] <quaal> robbie_crash, yea, definitely.
[06:00] <quaal> i only want RO access
[06:01] <PwcrLinux> what's the firefox doing spikes at 100% on system monitor of CPU, prolly bloated while flash 7 ads too high spikes..
[06:01] <Polygon89> verbose, im pretty sure that the first number is the drive order, so your first hard drive (i believe the master) will be (hd0,X) and the second hard drive (slave) will be (hd1,X)
[06:01] <x2mjokada> Ok, thanks guys
[06:01] <Polygon89> upgrade to flash 9, its so much better
[06:01] <robbie_crash> quaal: sorry, I can't give you any more help. I'
[06:01] <jordguitar> Ok back.
[06:01] <robbie_crash> m pretty new to Linux myself
[06:01] <jordguitar> I had to restart because the terminal would not open
[06:01] <verbose> Polygon89: so i can safely assume that {s,h}da is (hd0,x), hdb is hd1, etc
[06:01] <quaal> robbie_crash, thanks for trying!
[06:01] <unop> DavidCraft,  i've just been experimenting -- sudo -u user sh -c "vncserver"  seems to launch it as user, and i have no problems
[06:01] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: yea, I checked upgrade version, still show 7 on website..
[06:02] <robbie_crash> no problem!
[06:02] <jordguitar> Can I get that command again to install ndiswrapper-1.37
[06:02] <Polygon89> verbose, and then after that it goes up by partition order as well, as the first partiton (A in /dev/hda) would correspond to the 0 in (hdX,0)
[06:02] <PwcrLinux> Current FF version 1.5.0.9
[06:02] <unop> DavidCraft,  you could use su too -- su -l user sh -c "vncserver"
[06:02] <verbose> right, i knew that part
[06:02] <Polygon89> verbose, use a partitoning program to find the exact partioning letters so you can match it to the grub numbers
[06:02] <verbose> but a in hda is primary master, not partition number
[06:02] <Polygon89> verbose and just remember that it starts from 0 and goes up, and you should be fine :D
[06:03] <verbose> Polygon89: thanks
[06:03] <roho> !build-dep
[06:03] <ubotu> build-dep is a handy APT tool that will try to automatically install build (compile) dependencies for you. In the terminal: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[06:03] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, there are two different places where the old flash file could be installed. Did you install using the apt/synaptic/whatever or did you use the tar.gz
[06:03] <vik> Is there a way to get gnome/firefox to automagically change the http proxy settings based on which wireless network you connect to?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> !ndiswrapper > jordguitar
[06:05] <PwcrLinux> Poly: when the website detecting dled the version 7 long time ago, then the website upgraded new designed of tv news website, they need be upgrade to version 9 thru the FF browser
[06:06] <DavidCraft> unop: for some reason, it keeps trying to acesss .Xauthority (which i managed to redirect with Xvnc's -auth command) #.log #.pid and passwd from /root/
[06:06] <jordguitar> I have no idea on how to install anything on linux via the terminal. I need to install ndiswrapper-1.37 so that i can get the .cab files out of this .exe file
[06:06] <unop> DavidCraft,  i found the same problem with sudo -- but su -l seems to have it sussed
[06:06] <DavidCraft> even wrote an sh script to execute from sudo, and it still tries to acess all of these, even though $USER reports as the proper user
[06:06] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, yeah that wont work on linux i believe. i think for me it just always said "could not install" or whatever
[06:06] <jordguitar> or somthing
[06:06] <PwcrLinux> adobe still have 7, none of other 9..
[06:06] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, so ill get you instructions on how to upgrade to 9. hold on
[06:07] <yellow> jordguitar, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-1.37
[06:07] <DaveVK> Hey... i'm using ubuntu 64 live from a USB memory stick.
[06:07] <unop> DavidCraft,  i used this -- su -l user sh -c "vncserver"  .. and it's ok
[06:07] <Madpilot> !flash9
[06:07] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:07] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, ^^ for Flash 9
[06:07] <jordguitar> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-1.37
[06:07] <xai> What kernel is best for a dual-core amd 64 running in 32 bit?
[06:07] <PwcrLinux> Oh, dapper and edgy... I am on breezy
[06:07] <jordguitar> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-1.37
[06:07] <xai> Im on edgy..
[06:08] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, i dont think your distro matters. ok, to get the actual file, simply go to this website: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash and download the "tar.gz"
[06:08] <yellow> jordguitar, sudo apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[06:08] <Madpilot> PwcrLinux, you'll need to upgrade at some point, but Flash 9 should work anywhere (I think, but I don't know for sure)
[06:09] <DavidCraft> is that a lower case L ? because it says su: invalid option -- l
[06:09] <Polygon89> yeah flash 9 is like 100 times better then 7
[06:09] <Polygon89> it doesnt lock up firefox when i see a flash video =/
[06:09] <FantasticFoo> if i have a newer version of a certain library installed in /usr, and an older version of a certain library in /usr/local, how do i compile a program from source against the old version in /usr/local ?
[06:09] <PwcrLinux> I better wait till the update pop up for flash 9..
[06:09] <jordguitar> Ok... It did alot of things and then stoped...
[06:09] <PwcrLinux> mostly security updates
[06:09] <jordguitar> no errors
[06:09] <Polygon89> Pwcrlinux, unless you installed through synaptic no upgrade will pop up
[06:10] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, honestly this will take 2 seconds
[06:10] <FantasticFoo> apparently the configure script has no options specific to this library
[06:10] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, simply download the file, and tell me when your done.
[06:10] <yellow> jordguitar, best thing for you to do is system >> administration >> synaptics package manager
[06:10] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to list mounted drives?
[06:10] <yellow> jordguitar, once you're there, search for ndiswrapper then choose the one you want, mark it, hit apply , done!
[06:11] <quaal> spasticteapot, fdisk -l
[06:12] <PwcrLinux> aha! finally the adobe is now avaiable for flash 9..
[06:12] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, yeah, did you download that file?
[06:12] <spasticteapot> quaal: Does'nt fdisk format disks?
[06:12] <r00tintheb0x> no spasticteapot
[06:12] <spasticteapot> Although I suppose -l would list things...
[06:12] <r00tintheb0x> well kinda
[06:12] <jordguitar> Ok... I found the ndiswrapper files there and installed them
[06:12] <r00tintheb0x> its part of the format process
[06:12] <Polygon89> spasticteapot, not always there are a couple of commands that dont format anything
[06:13] <yellow> spasticteapot, mount -l also works
[06:13] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: just for tar file?
[06:13] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, yeah just the tar.gz file. download to your desktop if you can
[06:13] <unop> spasticteapot,  fdisk manages partition -- mkfs creates filesystems/formats them
[06:13] <PwcrLinux> okay hang on
[06:13] <DavidCraft> ok, i am failing to see the complication here.
[06:13] <unop> DavidCraft,  you ok?
[06:14] <DavidCraft> now i have managed to get it to work using the following statement: su username sh -c "vncserver :1"
[06:14] <DavidCraft> -l fails
[06:14] <DavidCraft> and just vncserver will fail
[06:14] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: Okay file is on the desktop screen now
[06:14] <DavidCraft> and using this is not accessable
[06:15] <DavidCraft> using a vnc client
[06:15] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, cool. If your using gnome, you should be able to just right click the tar.gz file and select "extract here". do that now please
[06:15] <unop> DavidCraft,  does vncviewer even pick up that theres a vncserver listening?
[06:15] <jordguitar> is there like remote assistance on ubuntu?
[06:15] <DavidCraft> no
[06:15] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: should I close the browser before to run it?
[06:16] <Polygon89> pwcrlinux, you will need to restart it before it loads the new plugin, so yeah might as well close it now.
[06:16] <DavidCraft> vncserver reports back as is always does in a successful execution of the statement
[06:16] <unop> DavidCraft,  address me so that other people dont get confused and i dont lose your posts in this busy channel :)
[06:16] <DavidCraft> however, usually it does not requre anything other then just vncserver
[06:16] <yellow> jordguitar, there's vnc
[06:17] <DavidCraft> why not just take it to a private window?
[06:17] <blanky> hey guys I got another hard drive and I hooked it up and stuff in my computer, and then I used gparted to format it (yes, gparted detected it) but I can't find it anywhere, how do I mount the hard drive so that I can browse it using something like nautilus?
[06:17] <vik> I'm trying to apt-get upgrade, but it wants to hold back a few generic kernel packages. How can I find out why?
[06:17] <unop> DavidCraft,  what i meant was -- when you launch vncviewer -- it asks you to connect to a server .. what do you enter in there?
[06:17] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: Okay the folder appeared on the desktop after extracted
[06:18] <yellow> blanky, try fstab - sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:18] <Dulica> Hi
[06:18] <DavidCraft> ip:defaultport+instance number
[06:18] <blanky> yellow: sweet thanks
[06:18] <blanky> !fstab
[06:18] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:18] <unop> DavidCraft,  that defeats the point of an open discussion in the room .. because other people can contribute .. i might not know how to handle a certain issue and somebody might know of a better way to deal with one you have
[06:18] <wist_> how can i see a list of available packages for ubuntu ?
[06:18] <wist_> to use with apt-get
[06:18] <Dulica> is ubuntu ready for production server ?
[06:18] <Polygon89> pwcrlinux. Cool, open the terminal, and change directories to the folder that is now on your desktop that you just extracted (should be ~/Desktop/Install_Flash_Player_9.tar.gz
[06:18] <brombomb> yellow what would I put as the command in fstab
[06:18] <brombomb> I have a similiar issue
[06:18] <ardchoille> wist_: gksudo synaptic
[06:18] <DavidCraft> unop: ok, i will try and remember.
[06:19] <sparr> wist: apt-cache dump
[06:19] <blanky> yellow: thanks but is there an easier way?
[06:19] <sparr> wist_: ^^
[06:19] <blanky> yellow: yeah, waht would I put in fstab?
[06:19] <unop> DavidCraft,  does vncviewer then prompt for a password at all?
[06:19] <rendo> What's the command, if any, to setup boot permissions in shell?
[06:19] <vik> wist_: or dselect or aptitude for interactive shell tools
[06:19] <rendo> err not boot permissions, WHAT boots.
[06:19] <DavidCraft> no
[06:19] <yellow> blanky you can manually mount it every time you want to use it
[06:19] <dr_willis> rendo,  edit the grub config file.
[06:19] <wist_> ok , the gui version and the console version , couldnt be better informed than this :)  thanks !
[06:20] <blanky> yellow: oh I see, but if I want it to be automatic then use fstab right
[06:20] <DavidCraft> unop: no, it exits as if there was no connection at all.
[06:20] <unop> DavidCraft,  well, have you considered it might be anetwork issue? any firewalls running on the server
[06:20] <unop> ?
[06:20] <yellow> blanky, brombomb , /dev/hdax       /path           ext3    defaults        0       2
[06:20] <jordguitar> Ok... I installed the ndiswrapper files in the synaptic package manager. what now ;_;
[06:20] <blanky> blanky: thanks, the drive's at /dev/hdd1
[06:20] <brombomb> thanks yellow
[06:20] <blanky> wtf, I told myself, yellow
[06:20] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: I am on terminal and cd'ed to Desktop and there is blue file and red file (tar.gz)
[06:21] <DavidCraft> no, because it works perfectly fine when i execute vncserver from the actual user login
[06:21] <rendo> Uh, where's grub? :P
[06:21] <blanky> yellow: so, /dev/hdd1 /media/fat fat32 defaults 0 2 ?
[06:21] <DavidCraft> * unop:
[06:21] <gladier-shop> hey - any reason why i only get 2mbps transfer rates in ubuntu .. via ftp/cifs
[06:21] <kitche> rendo: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:21] <yellow> blanky, yes, if /media/fat is where you want it
[06:21] <dr_willis> rendo,  type !grub and read the grub information/docs/guides.. its rather simple.. but detailed..
[06:21] <kitche> !ipv6 | gladier-shop maybe due tot his?
[06:21] <dr_willis> rendo,  the grub homepage - has some VERY well done docs also.
[06:22] <ubotu> gladier-shop maybe due tot his?: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:22] <Polygon89> PwcrLinux, if its on your desktop, typing "cd ~/Desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux" should do it
[06:22] <brombomb> yellow what if I don know the file system?
[06:22] <unop> DavidCraft,  hmm, are you sure you are attempting to connect on the right instance? that you aren't mixing :1 up with :2 and so on?
[06:22] <dr_willis> rendo,  grub if installed to the drives MBR. reads that menu.lst file to get its settings.. the 'default' setting sets what item is booted by default. NOTE that grub starts counting at zer0
[06:22] <DavidCraft> i tried ALL of them just incase. starting with the correct one.
[06:23] <dr_willis> rendo,  you trying to boot windows by default or somthing?
[06:23] <DavidCraft> * unop:
[06:23] <rendo> No no, I'm explaining wrong sorry.
[06:23] <yellow> brombomb, when you format the partition you should have chosen a file system, most often will be ext3 for ubuntu
[06:23] <DavidCraft> im sorry about the unop: thing, i've never done it before
[06:23] <rendo> I want to know the shell based process startup editor thing.
[06:23] <brombomb> Sorry for the confusion... My situation is slightly different, trying to mount a external HDD
[06:23] <rendo> Like cupsd, I don't want that running on system boot.
[06:23] <brombomb> which ahs my music on it
[06:23] <rendo> I want to turn it off.
[06:23] <dr_willis> rendo,  ok... that has nothing to do with grub then. :)
[06:23] <gladier-shop> kitche: ive already done that
[06:23] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: okay done cd'ed to other dir..
[06:23] <x2mjokada> Blanky, 75.84.25.85
[06:24] <rendo> I'm an idiot when it comes ot explaining. :P
[06:24] <dr_willis> rendo,  i manually edit the links in the rc.d dirs. ubuntu defaults to runlevel 2 - i think
[06:24] <dr_willis> rendo,  not sure of any console based sysv editor/setting program.
[06:24] <wist_> dselect rules  :D
[06:24] <blanky> x2mjokada: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:25] <blanky> x2mjokada: tell me if that works
[06:25] <Polygon89> pwcrlinux, OK try typing this command into the terminal and follow the prompts and it should install the latest version of flash 9:      ./flashplayer-installer
[06:25] <xixor> howdy
[06:25] <blanky> yellow: are you there? can you please paste to me the line that I told you, the line I'll put in fstab
[06:25] <x2mjokada> blanky, it just goes to the next line
[06:25] <blanky> yellow: I accidentally closed irc
[06:25] <blanky> x2mjokada: without asking you for pass or anything
[06:25] <brombomb> blanky: /dev/hdax       /path           ext3    defaults        0       2
[06:26] <blanky> brombomb: sweet thanks man
[06:26] <capunk> doni
[06:26] <brombomb> or did you want your line?
[06:26] <unop> DavidCraft,  ok, try this -- at your terminal -- netstat -an -p tcp | grep 5901 .. do you have a listening connection there?
[06:26] <gladier-shop> kitche: ive already done that
[06:26] <blanky> brombomb: I wanted mine but it's alright I guess
[06:26] <blanky> thanks
[06:26] <capunk> allow semua met siaNG
[06:26] <unop> DavidCraft,  that up there is assuming :1 has started
[06:26] <gumpish> ... I'm trying to build the broadcom 5700 module for dapper but I can't use make, keep getting "linux kernel source tree not found", in spite of the fact that I've installed the source via synaptic.
[06:26] <brombomb> blanks: /dev/hdd1 /media/fat fat32 defaults 0 2 ?
[06:26] <capunk>  I WONT U OMELETTE
[06:26] <brombomb> *blanky
[06:26] <blanky> brombomb: sweet thanks man
[06:26] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: it's says you're running installation as non-root, should press enter to install it?
[06:27] <Aboven> i think i installed nvidia-glx right but how i check that so it is correct installed..
[06:27] <dr_willis> gumpish,  it 'may' be expexcting a link from /usr/src/linux to the /usr/src/kernel-version-you-installed
[06:27] <gumpish> ahhhh
[06:27] <Polygon89> pwcrlinux, yeah it should be run as non root as it just installs a file to a directory in your home directory
[06:27] <PwcrLinux> okay hang on
[06:27] <yellow> brombomb, usb hdd ?
[06:27] <brombomb> yes
[06:28] <brombomb> I have 2 of them...
[06:28] <_3uG_> hi.. could someone help me setup freenx?
[06:28] <yellow> brombomb, it should automount when you plug the usb in
[06:28] <lordkeiden> how do i o set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf  so i can get my souchpad working?
[06:28] <brombomb> partioniond into 3
[06:28] <gladier-shop> i have already disabled ipv6
[06:28] <brombomb> nope
[06:28] <xixor> hm.. anyone here use kpowersave?  When it starts, it says unable to connect to the kpowersave daemon, something about trouble with Dbus
[06:29] <DavidCraft> unop: it didnt print anything
[06:29] <yellow> brombomb, there's no entry in my fstab and it still automount
[06:29] <yellow> *
[06:29] <unop> DavidCraft,  what instance number was last started?
[06:29] <yellow> *no entry for usb connected drives*
[06:29] <unop> DavidCraft,  :1 or :2 ?
[06:29] <blanky> /dev/hdd1 /media/fat fat32 defaults 0 2
[06:29] <brombomb> I have a server version of ubuntu maybe Im missing a pacakge?
[06:29] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: okay will be install in /home/powerwcrulez/.mozilla  process to install press enter?
[06:29] <dr_willis> lordkeiden,  id check the ubuntu wiki/forums - i think they have an example of doing that.
[06:30] <Polygon89> pwcrlinux, yep
[06:30] <mysta> hello, I'm trying to install totem-xine-firefox-plugin, but aptitude shows a "v" flag, and will not install, anyone know what this means??
[06:30] <yellow> brombomb, maybe pmount , i don't remember
[06:30] <yellow> !pmount
[06:30] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[06:30] <brombomb> OK Il look for that
[06:30] <brombomb> thanks
[06:30] <Aboven> Can any help me out with a easy nvidia stuff?
[06:30] <lordkeiden> dr_willis:  thanks
[06:30] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: remove xpti.dat? or leave it?
[06:30] <cbrock> anyone use Ubuntu under vmware?
[06:31] <cables> !nvidia | Aboven
[06:31] <ubotu> Aboven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:31] <cables> Aboven, the guide is pretty easy to follow
[06:31] <DavidCraft> unop: instance 1
[06:31] <dr_willis> cbrock,  it worked very well under vmware-server last i tried it.
[06:31] <Polygon89> pwcrlinux, im not sure, does it say anything about whats recommended to do?
[06:31] <blanky> !texteditors
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about texteditors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <blanky> !texteditor
[06:31] <gladier-shop> any reason why i only get 2mbps transfer rates in ubuntu .. via ftp/cifs - i have disabled ipv6
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about texteditor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <blanky> !editor
[06:32] <PwcrLinux> Polygon89: can i prvmsg you?
[06:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[06:32] <unop> DavidCraft,  ok, launch that command again -- making vncserver start on instance :2 and then run this - netstat -an -p tcp | grep -i 5902
[06:32] <gumpish> dr_willis: darn, no change in symptom
[06:32] <roho> !amarok
[06:32] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[06:32] <Aboven> i followed http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#nvidia-driver
[06:33] <cables> Aboven, and that didn't work?
[06:33] <cables> Aboven, at what step did it not work?
[06:33] <Aboven> im not sure opengl games closes
[06:33] <mojo_> any XGL users here?  where does it log errors?  Not /var/log/Xorg.0.log as far as I can tell... silly me installed it and now my system hard-locks when initializing the display.  This means i must log in with recovery console.  ugh!
[06:34] <brombomb> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:34] <cables> Aboven, what? Does 3d acceleration not work?
[06:34] <DavidCraft> unop: nothing
[06:34] <brombomb> sorry.... I finally have a menu!
[06:34] <Aboven> im not sure how i check it
[06:34] <unop> gladier-shop,  firstly, is the link operating at 10 or 100mbps .. full or half-duplex .. secondly, is the server under high load .. thirdly, is the hardware fast enough -- disk access speed, memory size, etc
[06:34] <cables> Aboven, run a 3d screensaver... that's a good way to test it.
[06:34] <Aboven> ok
[06:34] <brombomb> is there a way to prevent menu autoscroll?
[06:35] <unop> DavidCraft,  ok then, for some reason vncserver is not starting up properly .. its just not creating a network socket
[06:35] <unop> DavidCraft,  can you run the command again and show me the command and output .. !pastebin please
[06:37] <Aboven> i donk think it works
[06:37] <cables> Aboven?
[06:37] <Aboven> yeah
[06:37] <DavidCraft> unop: i have figured this out since the first su execute. the first time i ran it, it required me to specify :1, were as if you run vncserver in the command prompt, it just does everything using the next available instance number. the problem exists in how su is executeing the vncserver command. it is till not executeing it as if it were under username's account.
[06:37] <cables> How doesn't it work, Aboven?
[06:37] <blanky> /dev/hdd1 /media/fat fat32 defaults 0 2
[06:38] <Aboven> on what
[06:38] <cbrock> what is ubuntu's primary advantage over redhat?
[06:38] <cables> Aboven, you said "i don't think it works"
[06:38] <cbrock> has quit ["Leaving"] 
[06:38] <blanky> yellow: are you there bud?
[06:38] <Aboven> yeah the 3d
[06:38] <yellow> blanky, yes ?
[06:38] <unop> cbrock,  does redhat even exist anymore?
[06:38] <rendo> !swap
[06:38] <cables> Aboven, have you checked xorg.conf?
[06:38] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[06:38] <cbrock> unop: yeah
[06:38] <Aboven> yes
[06:38] <blanky> after I've edited fstab, do I have to restart to see the changes take effect?
[06:38] <blanky> yellow: or what
[06:38] <roho> is there a way to install all new upgrades from the command line?
[06:39] <roho> or even to list them?
[06:39] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[06:39] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:39] <roho> dr_willis: that wasn't helpful
[06:39] <dr_willis> roho,  sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:39] <roho> yes, i tried that
[06:39] <unop> DavidCraft,  let's try a few tests then -- what does this output -- su username -c "echo $USER"
[06:39] <dr_willis> it shoudl say what upgrades are going to be installed then ask.
[06:39] <gladier-shop> any reason why i only get 2mbps transfer rates in ubuntu .. via ftp/cifs - i have disabled ipv6
[06:39] <dr_willis> if you want to do it.
[06:39] <yellow> blanky, you can restart or mount /dev/hdd1
[06:40] <mojo_> roho, sudo apt-get update (to update package lists) then apt-get upgrade
[06:40] <cables> Aboven, can you run this command and tell me the results? cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver.*nv"
[06:40] <blanky> yellow: just type 'mount /dev/hdd1' ?
[06:40] <blanky> thanks for the help yellow I appreciate it
[06:40] <yellow> blanky, yes
[06:40] <roho> yeah, that doesn't list the same packages listed from the tool launched by that orange square
[06:40] <Aboven> ok will
[06:40] <mojo_> roho: oh, use sudo on both incantations
[06:40] <DavidCraft> root
[06:40] <yellow> blanky, works?
[06:40] <DavidCraft> * unop: root
[06:40] <Aboven> Driver         "nvidia"
[06:40] <roho> yeah, i'm using sudo everytime
[06:40] <unop> cbrock,  :) what i meant was.. the last release of redhat was quite sometime ago, the advantage ubuntu has over red_hat is shorter life cycles , frequent releases, easier configuration, easier package management, to name a few
[06:40] <blanky> yellow: hold up, x2mjokada is the one with the problem actually, im talking to him on the phone
[06:41] <cables> Aboven, have you restarted your computer after setting up the driver?
[06:41] <yellow> blanky, lol
[06:41] <Aboven> dont think so
[06:41] <unop> DavidCraft,  sorry -- su username -c "echo \$USER"
[06:41] <Aboven> will try
[06:41] <cables> Aboven, have you done ctrl-alt-backspace?
[06:41] <cbrock> unop: okay.
[06:41] <gladier-shop> any reason why i only get 2mbps transfer rates in ubuntu .. via ftp/cifs - i have disabled ipv6
[06:41] <blanky> yellow: do I have to mkdir /media/myfolder that I put inside fstab?
[06:41] <DavidCraft> unop: username
[06:41] <Aboven> no i will try to restart ..
[06:41] <cables> Aboven, close everything and do ctrl-alt-backspace. This will restart X and make it work
[06:41] <IcemanV9> !repeat > gladier-shop
[06:41] <yellow> blanky, yes, i forgot that
[06:41] <Aboven> kk
[06:41] <blanky> yellow: okay
[06:42] <cables> Aboven, if that doesn't do anything, just restart.
[06:42] <blanky> yellow: I need to type sudo mkdir /media/fat right?
[06:42] <blanky> x2mjokada: sudo mkdir /media/fat
[06:42] <unop> DavidCraft,  ok, then, let me have a look at this -- su username -c "echo \$USER; vncserver :1"
[06:42] <unop> gladier-shop,  did you not get the last question i asked you?
[06:43] <blanky> yellow: I got an 'unknown file system type fat32'
[06:43] <mojo_> anyone at all familiar with xserver-xgl ????  I have major bigtime problems
[06:43] <gladier-shop> nope
[06:43] <DavidCraft> unop: it prompted for a new password
[06:43] <cables> mojo_, go to the #ubuntu-effects channel.
[06:43] <mojo_> cables: thanks.
[06:43] <blanky> yellow: I pasted /dev/hdd1 /media/fat fat32 defaults 0 2 into fstab
[06:44] <unop> DavidCraft,  its essential to know what is prompting for the password -- su or vncserver
[06:44] <blanky> then I did sudo mkdir /media/fat
[06:44] <unop> blanky,  its vfat not fat32
[06:44] <blanky> yellow: then I did sudo mount /dev/hdd1
[06:44] <DavidCraft> unop: then said /home/user/.Xauthority is not writeable, changes will be ignored
[06:44] <blanky> unop: sweet thanks man
[06:44] <yellow> blanky, vfat
[06:44] <blanky> yeah got it thanks man, sweet
[06:44] <DavidCraft> unop: vncserver, sorry
[06:44] <yellow> sorry
[06:44] <gladier-shop> unop - i didnt get what you said before
[06:44] <Aboven> works now
[06:45] <cables> Abovenn, good.
[06:45] <unop> DavidCraft,  ok, you probably will need to kill instance :1 and try this again
[06:45] <Aboven> i only forgot to restart as you said :)
[06:45] <DavidCraft> unop: um, so it is working now.  What exacly happened?
[06:45] <blanky> sudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[06:45] <unop> DavidCraft,  -- su username -c "echo \$USER; vncserver -kill :1; vncserver :1"
[06:45] <cables> Aboven, alright. You may have problems coming out of suspend or hibernate, the Nvidia driver sometimes does that
[06:45] <unop> DavidCraft,  is it working now?
[06:45] <Aboven> k
[06:45] <DavidCraft> unop: what is the difference in the /$USER and $USER.  And what does the echo do anyways as I thought it just printed
[06:45] <cables> Aboven, it should really warn you in the guide... maybe I'll change that in the wiki entry
[06:46] <DavidCraft> unop: yah beautiful
[06:46] <Aboven> ok
[06:46] <Aboven> but i did a eaiser way then the guide you gave me
[06:46] <Aboven> as i have done before ..
[06:46] <brombomb> Is there a way to go from Server edition to normal edition?
[06:46] <blanky> hey guys
[06:47] <Skuller> how can i launch applications using WINE?
[06:47] <blanky> from within a GUI (nautilus, GNOME) how can I get to the media directory?
[06:47] <cables> Skuller, run "wine <PathToExe>"
[06:47] <IcemanV9> brombomb: yep, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <rasheed> what is the channel name for feisty fawn
[06:47] <cables> rasheed, #ubuntu+1
[06:47] <Skuller> cables, hey....i dont know the path
[06:47] <Aboven> how did i change the perm on a harddrive or something i have forgot that it were like 7777 or something
[06:47] <brombomb> Iceman I already did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <Skuller> cables, i just installed Unreal Tournament
[06:48] <rasheed> thnx cable
[06:48] <cbrock> is Kubuntu managed by the Ubuntu people, or is it a complete fork?
[06:48] <unop> DavidCraft,  with - su username -c "echo $USER" -- the shell expands $USER before the arguments are passed to su .. with su username -c "echo \$USER" .. the shell doesnt expand the $USER firstly (as it sees it as \$SHELL) .. but su recieves it as $SHELL, and it is only then when it is expanded
[06:48] <brombomb> but I guess its my kernel still says Server
[06:48] <cables> Skuller, unfortunately the Wine start menu doesn't work under Gnome. Look in ~/.wine/, there should be a folder representing the C drive
[06:48] <unop> DavidCraft,  but the echo commands here were just for troubleshooting -- they have no effect on the activity in vncserver
[06:48] <cables> cbrock, managed by same people.
[06:49] <unop> DavidCraft,  its quite likely that the vncserver command failed to create the proper lock files before
[06:49] <cbrock> cables: cool
[06:50] <phrizer> I installed a Nvidia GeForce MX100 a few months back and it's been working perfectly, that is, up until a couple of days ago, now it tends to hang Xorg 99.9% CPU usage) very often, can be right after booting, sometimes 20 minutes. The mouse will works however.
[06:50] <unop> cbrock,  ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, etc all have different teams developing those interfaces -- but overall, they use a majority of the same packages, the kernel, libraries, sound and video subsystems, etc etc
[06:50] <Skuller> cables, i did not get where u said the C: drive wud be...can u explain again please
[06:50] <IcemanV9> brombomb: is that right? hmm .. never done this path server --> desktop.
[06:51] <blanky> hey guys
[06:51] <Railer> off topic question: I have 2 computers what is the best way to get the highest transfer speeds between the 2 computers? crossover, usb? something else?
[06:51] <blanky> yellow: do i have to use sudo to mkdir /media/blah
[06:51] <IcemanV9> brombomb: mine says SMP PREEMPT
[06:51] <gladier-shop> actually i just noticed - ipv6 is still listed but it no longer has an adress
[06:51] <DavidCraft> unop: well it works, thanks
[06:51] <yellow> blanky, probably, i think /media is root owned
[06:51] <cbrock> unop: hmmm... i've always thought KDE was a better WM :P
[06:51] <Skuller> Railer, i thing it wud be Crossover
[06:51] <Skuller> think*
[06:52] <blanky> yellow: because my friend can't simply 'drag and drop' files to the drive we mounted, and that's what we initially wanted to do
[06:52] <blanky> yellow: do you suggest I unmount /media/fat, then change fstab so that it mounts to /home/me/fat instead?
[06:52] <blanky> yellow: is that even possible?
[06:52] <Railer> I figure cat 5e crossover should peak out the nics?
[06:52] <unop> Railer,  that depends on how much you want to transfer -- it is believed that if you transfer more than 25GB .. it might be quicker to power the computer down, take the harddrive out, power the other computer down, plug the harddrive in, power up etc :)
[06:53] <yellow> blanky, yes, or you can change file owner of /mdedia/fat to username
[06:53] <blanky> yellow: oh really, how can I do that, please?
[06:53] <unop> Railer,  the fastest would probably gigabit cross-over ethernet
[06:53] <Railer> lol, never thought of that, ones a laptop and I dont have the cable
[06:53] <Railer> cable to swap the HD
[06:54] <blanky> yellow: sudo chown /media/fat myusername ?
[06:54] <Railer> ok crossover cool I build one quick thanks
[06:54] <mneptok> Railer: most newer NICs can auto sense the lnk type and do not require a crossover gable
[06:54] <mneptok> *cable
[06:54] <unop> Railer, if it's fast ethernet (100mbps) its likely to be slower than USB2.0 and firewire
[06:55] <PwcrLinux> Oh no, ff forced quit unexpectly
[06:55] <Railer> see this is the question firewire to firewire faster then crossover?
[06:55] <PwcrLinux> where I can find error report?
[06:56] <blanky> x2mjokada: sudo chown /media/fat x2mjokada
[06:56] <yellow> blanky, i've always used nautilus for that
[06:56] <Skuller> can anyone tell me how do i find the path to an app i installed using WINE so i can run it?
[06:56] <yellow> lol
[06:56] <blanky> yellow: haha, but can I do what I said?
[06:56] <unop> Railer,  depends on what type of NICs .. fast-ethernet or gigabit ethernet
[06:56] <blanky> yellow: in this case it's easier for me since I just tell him to type that into the terminal
[06:56] <yellow> blanky, chown sounds like the right command, check syntax
[06:56] <IcemanV9> Skuller: .wine dir in your home dir
[06:56] <blanky> yellow: sweet thanks
[06:56] <Railer> how could I tell? ipconfig say anything?
[06:57] <feross> Skuller: usually under /home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/programname
[06:57] <unop> blanky,  the way you use chown there is wrong
[06:57] <blanky> unop: really?
[06:57] <blanky> switch path and username?
[06:57] <unop> blanky,  sudo chown username /path/to/directory
[06:57] <blanky> unop: :) thanks
[06:57] <Skuller> there aint no /.wine directory
[06:57] <AzMoo> or chown username:group /path/
[06:58] <DavidCraft> unop: thank you VERY VERY VERY VERY much!!!!!  been at this a WHILE O_o
[06:58] <blanky> AzMoo: what's the group?
[06:58] <x2mjokada> blanky, chown: changing ownership of `/media/fat': Operation not permitted
[06:58] <Railer> lol, well it's fun to learn, you guys is smart
[06:58] <unop> blanky,  if you want all sub-directories and files underneath it to be chowned too -- you need chown -R
[06:58] <cables> I know that the Ubuntu video drivers break suspend and hibernate, but does that happen to everybody? Is there anyone here who has the Nvidia driver AND can suspend/hibernate their computer?
[06:58] <blanky> AzMoo and unop basically I mounted a drive to /media/fat but it wont let me 'drag and drop' files onto there, so I was tring this but I get the error x2mjokada mentioned
[06:58] <Skuller> feross: there aint any /.wine directory under my username folder
[06:58] <cables> Skuller, have you shown hidden files?
[06:59] <yellow> blanky, sudo chown -hR /media/fat
[06:59] <mneptok> Skuller: you used the terminal to llok for it?
[06:59] <feross> Skuller: do an 'sudo updatedb' then 'locate appname' see if it comes up
[06:59] <blanky> yellow: sweeet thanks
[06:59] <unop> x2mjokada, if its a fat volume -- you need to change the way the drive is mounted in /etc/fstab -- check the fstab manpage for details on vfat fileystem
[06:59] <toettoet> hi, i have a problem with my gaim. the buddy icons in gaim do not show. could you help me ?
[06:59] <cables> Skuller, mneptok, no need... he just needs to enable "show hidden files and folders"
[06:59] <Railer> ok well thanks, I have to go
[06:59] <unop> blanky,  ^^ see that post
[06:59] <cables> toettoet, in what protocol?
[06:59] <unop> DavidCraft,  you are welcome :)
[06:59] <Daemonic> When I boot the ubuntu livecd my desktop freezes withing a minute or two.. I have an ATI x700 pro video card... I get visual artifacts right before the hard lock.. what can I do?
[06:59] <blanky> unop: oh really? We just did /dev/hdd1 /media/fat fat32 defaults 0 2
[06:59] <IcemanV9> Skuller: type ls -a - it'll show the hidden files plus others
[06:59] <mneptok> cables: never send a GUI to do a CLI job ;)
[07:00] <cables> mneptok, is he already in the CLI?
[07:00] <toettoet> cables : yahoo, i was check show buddy icon, but the buddy icons do not show
[07:00] <unop> blanky,  x2mjokada vfat has no mechanism to control file ownsership and permissions -- therefore you have to get the mount point to radiate these permissions
[07:00] <cables> toettoet, sounds like a bug
[07:01] <toettoet> cables : i use gaim 2.0.0beta6
[07:01] <yellow> blanky, sudo chown -hR user:group /media/fat
[07:01] <blanky> x2mjokada: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:01] <cables> toettoet, does that happen in previous versions?
[07:01] <Skuller> cables, how do i do dat?....show hidden files.....
[07:01] <blanky> yellow: As far as I know I'm in no group haha
[07:01] <yellow> lol damn command
[07:01] <cables> toettoet, keyword: beta
[07:01] <yellow> blanky, you are in a group of your own
[07:01] <cables> Skuller, in Nautilus, go to View>Show Hidden Files and you'll definitely see it
[07:01] <Skuller> cables, got it thnx
[07:01] <yellow> 1000 / 1001/...
[07:01] <Skuller> cables, yea....thnx a lot
[07:01] <toettoet> cables : i never try previous version, i just installed 2.0.0beta6 version
[07:01] <mneptok> (or hit ctl-h)
[07:02] <blanky> oh duh, thanks yellow, and unop, i'll try what you guys said
[07:02] <unop> blanky,  have a look at this towards the end - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_(DOS,_FAT,NTFS)
[07:02] <toettoet> cables : do u have a suggestion what version i better used ?
[07:02] <blanky> unop: sweet, thanks
[07:02] <cables> toettoet, it's a beta... there are bugs. Report them and hopefully they'll get fixed. Beta 3 is included with Ubuntu, but I don't know if buddy icons work in that...
[07:02] <toettoet> cables: thx
[07:03] <x2mjokada> blanky, 75.84.25.85
[07:03] <MonkeyINAbaG> heya
[07:03] <protocol1> is there a reason why after I updated my ubuntu with updates my X wont start up any more?
[07:03] <unop> protocol1,  does ubuntu take you to the console?
[07:03] <cables> protocol1, a bad update maybe. Are you using 3d graphics drivers?
[07:03] <protocol1> is there a reverse I can do to get everything back?
[07:03] <xelados> How do you check what groups a user is in through the terminal?
[07:03] <protocol1> yeah nvidia-glx
[07:04] <Daemonic> no one knows how I can get my desktop to quit freezing with my ati x700? I get visual artifacts then a hardlock within a minute or two every time. =(
[07:04] <mneptok> protocol1: rebbot, press <esc> to get the GRUB menu, and boot the older kernel
[07:04] <unop> xelados,  groups
[07:04] <bulmer> xelados  cat /etc/group
[07:04] <MonkeyINAbaG> i got a laptop here with a cdrom it wont boot off, and no floppy, and no networking currently, just a broken woody install. is there anyway i can install a better os from cd within debian, without booting off it?
[07:04] <protocol1> mneptok, I am using ssh
[07:04] <protocol1> to control this machine
[07:05] <unop> protocol1,  does ubuntu take you to the console?
[07:05] <jordguitar> Gah... I cant find Software Properties so that I can install unshield
[07:05] <protocol1> yeah
[07:05] <blanky> unop: thanks that looks promising haha
[07:05] <blanky> unop: should we mount to /mnt or /media
[07:05] <blanky> unop: any of the two show up in an accessible place?
[07:05] <protocol1> unop, I am connected to it via ssh
[07:05] <mneptok> protocol1: so edit menu.lst to make the old kernel the default
[07:05] <Skuller> ookk....i just browsed to the Unreal Tournament folder in C created by WINE....and started the game....the splash screen came, the resolution changed (to that of the game initially) and the game crashed....i m stuck with the Low resolution of the game+the game crashed
[07:05] <unop> protocol1,  after logging in to the console -- try launching gdm (or kdm if you use it)  .. sudo gdm
[07:06] <xelados> To add a user to a group and keep its current memberships, it's 'usermod -a [groupname] ', right?
[07:06] <jordguitar> How do i install unshield
[07:06] <Daemonic> no one knows how I can get my desktop to quit freezing with my ati x700? I get visual artifacts then a hardlock within a minute or two every time. =(
[07:06] <protocol1> mneptok, where is menu.lst?
[07:06] <unop> blanky,  where you mount devices is your business really, you can mount them anywhere -- but for the sakes of simplicity in ubuntu -- use /media
[07:07] <blanky> thanks unop I appreciate the help
[07:07] <hellmet> why do we have /mnt at all in ubuntu?
[07:07] <unop> blanky,  so in that tutorial, just substitute /mnt with /media
[07:07] <blanky> unop: thanks man
[07:07] <unop> hellmet,  backward compatibility with older software -- and compatibility with software written for linux in general
[07:07] <hellmet> oh k. :-)
[07:08] <mneptok> protocol1: /boot/grub
[07:08] <jordguitar> how do i install unshield?
[07:08] <blanky> /dev/hdd1   /media/fat   vfat   umask=0000    0 0
[07:08] <unop> protocol1,  try launching the gdm first
[07:09] <unop> mneptok,  why change the kernel -- theres no indication here the kernel is at fault?
[07:09] <unop> blanky,  dont forget the gid there
[07:09] <blanky> unop: gid? I need one?
[07:09] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: sudo aptitude install unshield
[07:09] <blanky> unop: what's a gid? can I make one up? gid=1337 for example?
[07:10] <tonyr1988> gid = group id
[07:10] <unop> blanky,  thats what identifies the owner of the files
[07:10] <matjan> hi, is it safe now to upgrade the kernel modules on dapper?
[07:10] <jordguitar> thanks
[07:10] <blanky> unop: oh okay thanks, what should I make it, gid=777?
[07:10] <unop> blanky,  no .. check /etc/passwd for your gid
[07:10] <protocol1> mneptok, im in menu.lst via nano   is there a way to see whats used by defualt?
[07:10] <unop> blanky,  or better use this command - id
[07:11] <NoStop> blanky: or do ... id <yourusername>  to get gid
[07:11] <protocol1> and how do I go about switching it?
[07:11] <blanky> okay thanks unop and NoStop
[07:11] <matjan> i.e. to 2.6.15-28-386?
[07:11] <unop> protocol1, dont change the kernel yet .. rule out X, gnome and the GDM first before going on to rule out the kernel
[07:11] <blanky> unop and NoStop I did '/dev/hda1   /mnt/vfat   vfat   umask=0000    0 0' and it seems to work, i can drag files in there, but if I ever encounter problems I'll be sure to remember that, thanks again guys, and yellow, I appreciate it!
[07:12] <jordguitar> I placed in unshield x DATA1.CAB and i got a error
[07:12] <protocol1> unop, I havent done anything yet
[07:12] <yellow> blanky, :)
[07:12] <xelados> Ugh, how do you add a user to a group in the terminal?
[07:12] <unop> protocol1, you arent paying attention to me -- i told you twice -- try launching the gdm at the console -- sudo gdm
[07:12] <sparr> does ubuntu have non-release-named package repositories?  like debian has releases 'sarge' 'potato' 'etch', but it also has moving windows 'stable' 'testing' 'unstable'.
[07:13] <xelados> I tried "usermod xelados -G [groupname] " to no avail..
[07:13] <NoStop> blanky: found a bug in gedit, where when trying to edit a file, get an error about unable to save backup. Solution was to drop umask and use uid and gid. Still can't create backup but at least gedit stops presenting the error message.
[07:13] <protocol1> unop, it says gdm is already running aborting
[07:13] <unop> sparr,  ubuntu doesnt really have them -- but dapper is considered "stable", edgy "unstable" and feisty "testing"
[07:14] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$ unshield x DATA1.CAB
[07:14] <jordguitar> bash: unshield: command not found
[07:14] <protocol1> but still no interface
[07:14] <blanky> haha NoStop, okay...uh, sorry what?!
[07:14] <sparr> unop: yeah, but that changes
[07:14] <sparr> unop: i hate editing my sources
[07:14] <jordguitar> I got that error when I tried to unshield a .CAB file
[07:14] <jussi01> Hei all, Does anyone know what im doing wrong? I have a web page, and it try's to execute a script in a popup window. however all i get is the text of the script... I have made the script executable...what now?
[07:14] <unop> protocol1,  ok, run this sequence then -- sudo sh -c "killall gdm; killall gdm-binary; gdm"
[07:15] <jordguitar> Jussi01: Might be a virus that is for windows.
[07:15] <unop> sparr, ok, for the purposes of sources.list .. we dont have anything like that
[07:15] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: source .bashrc && unshield x DATA1.CAB
[07:15] <jussi01> jordguitar, nah, its java and its an upload script  - for linux
[07:15] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$ source .bashrc && unshield x DATA1.CAB
[07:15] <jordguitar> bash: .bashrc: No such file or directory
[07:16] <unop> jordguitar,  source ~/.bashrc
[07:16] <MonkeyINAbaG> has anyone ever attempted a dist-upgrade from debian to ubuntu?
[07:17] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$ source ~/.bashrc
[07:17] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$
[07:17] <unop> MonkeyINAbaG,  i've tried from ubuntu to debian -- and thats not a pleasant experience
[07:17] <unop> jordguitar,  that indicates success
[07:17] <yellow> unop, why backwards ?
[07:17] <jordguitar> Ok.. then what do i do next
[07:17] <unop> yellow,  backwards?
[07:17] <P235> hi
[07:17] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: ah. you're in different dir (i assumed your in your home dir). sorry. now, type unshield x DATA1.CAB
[07:18] <protocol1> unop, I see "gdm-binary: no process killed"
[07:18] <yellow> unop, from ubuntu to debian ?
[07:18] <unop> jordguitar,  that unshield command IcemanV9 gave you
[07:18] <MonkeyINAbaG> i got a laptop here with a cdrom it wont boot off, and no floppy, and no networking currently, just a broken woody install. is there anyway i can install a better os from cd within debian, without booting off it? <--- i am trying to use a breezy cd as a repo to dist-upgrade
[07:18] <jordguitar> bash: unshield: command not found
[07:18] <yellow> unop, ubutnu's based off of debian right ?
[07:18] <unop> yellow,  thats hardly backwards .. debian and ubuntu work on par with each other
[07:18] <timthelion> hey
[07:19] <unop> yellow,  thats true -- but debian etch is as updated as say ubuntu edgy (feisty even)
[07:19] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: ??? whereis unshield
[07:19] <jussi01> so nobody knows?
[07:19] <yellow> unop, the impression i got is ubuntu's fast release cycle make it sort of more updated than debian
[07:19] <timthelion> um, sometimes, somehow, the input method keeps on changing to xdefault from default, and for some reason when I type and the input method is xdefault nothing happens
[07:19] <yellow> unop, etch is not the same as 3.1 ?
[07:19] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$ ??? whereis unshield
[07:19] <jordguitar> bash: ???: command not found
[07:19] <mikemacd> hey
[07:19] <mikemacd> can someone help me with something
[07:19] <mikemacd> i got an error trying to boot the live cd
[07:19] <FirstStrike> Generally, Ubuntu has a new release every 6 months.
[07:19] <FirstStrike> Debian is constantly delayed.
[07:20] <DavidW2> I was trying to check out the asp.net2-examples from apache2, but it seems they don't run (mono1 seems to run)
[07:20] <jussi01> whats the error mikemacd
[07:20] <protocol1> but debian is a bit more stable
[07:20] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: without "???"
[07:20] <FirstStrike> Hmm..depends. I've been running dapper for a while now and it's been solid as a rock.
[07:20] <jussi01> mikemacd: what the error??
[07:20] <mikemacd> oh sorry
[07:20] <yellow> unop, don't get me wrong, i've been running dapper and never updated to edgy
[07:20] <mikemacd> uhhm lemme just type it out
[07:20] <unop> yellow,  a faster release cycle does not necessarily mean it leaves everythign behind .. the debian policy or main aim is stability while ubuntu's is more cutting edge but the difference in most packages between the two is only a few minor revision numbers
[07:20] <mikemacd> its short
[07:21] <ardchoille> FirstStrike: Same here. Dapper is quite nice.
[07:21] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$ whereis unshield
[07:21] <jordguitar> unshield:
[07:21] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[07:21] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: did u install it?
[07:21] <unop> yellow,  IIRC 3.1 was sarge .. dont hold me to it. im not sure about debian's versioning
[07:21] <jordguitar> i placed in the command that you gave me to install it. and i didnt get any errors
[07:22] <yellow> unop, good to know, what i've always thought is 3.1's the last stable and it's been out for 2-3 years
[07:22] <unop> jordguitar,  you trying to unpack a .cab file?
[07:22] <rendo> Is it normal for like 10 instances of apache2 running?
[07:22] <jordguitar> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "unshield"
[07:22] <jordguitar> i just found that
[07:22] <jordguitar> that was durring the sudo aptitude install unshield
[07:23] <IcemanV9> unop: yeah. trying to unpack a cab file
[07:23] <mikemacd> what do i do? error when trying to boot ubuntu live cd!
[07:23] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[07:23] <jordguitar> and i am trying to unpack a .cab file
[07:23] <unop> jordguitar,  IcemanV9 why not just use cabextract?   cabextract DATA1.CAB
[07:23] <jussi01> mikemacd: Just checking it out
[07:23] <IcemanV9> thought cabextract does it trick?
[07:23] <mikemacd> okay, great. thank you very much.
[07:23] <ardchoille> jordguitar: unshield is in the universe repo
[07:24] <jordguitar> bash: cabextract: command not found
[07:24] <brombomb> Im trying to use Rythmbox but importing my music I get this: The GStreamer plugins to decode MP3 files cannot be found
[07:24] <brombomb> any help
[07:24] <yellow> IcemanV9, grin with an E
[07:24] <ardchoille> jordguitar: cabextract is also in universe
[07:24] <unop> jordguitar,  sudo aptitude install cabextract
[07:24] <mikemacd> jussi101, PM me when you find something!
[07:24] <IcemanV9> jordguitar: you'll need to install cabextract as well
[07:24] <jordguitar> sudo aptitude install cabextract
[07:24] <jordguitar> oops
[07:25] <jordguitar> wrong window
[07:25] <IcemanV9> yellow: :/
[07:25] <ardchoille> jordguitar: You'll have to enable universe, then sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude install
[07:25] <unop> jordguitar,  your punishment for that horrendous mistake is to practise your mouse skills for 30 minutes everday for 5 days :)
[07:25] <jordguitar> how do i enable universe
[07:25] <ardchoille> unop: lol
[07:26] <jordguitar> I am in the living room doing this
[07:26] <jordguitar> cables everywhere
[07:26] <unop> jordguitar,  universe is always enabled :)  look around you -- you exist in the universe :)
[07:26] <P235> heh
[07:26] <jordguitar> ON UBUNTU IDIOT
[07:26] <unop> LOL
[07:26] <GigaClon> I keep getting this everywhere
[07:26] <GigaClon> LOL its already enabled
[07:27] <unop> jordguitar,  i meant on ubuntu
[07:27] <GigaClon> he prolly mean multiverse
[07:27] <unop> jordguitar,  you nuke your ally, you deserve to rot in hell :p
[07:27] <GigaClon> !tell jordguitar about repositories
[07:28] <jordguitar> you are not helping
[07:28] <protocol1> mneptok, I have two kernels
[07:28] <protocol1> ones the 386 one and the other is generic
[07:28] <GigaClon> I keep getting this error everywherer, libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[07:28] <unop> jordguitar, :( i am helping you -- universe is always enabled (on ubuntu too) .. and cabextract exist in the universe
[07:28] <protocol1> which one shoudl I keep?
[07:29] <GigaClon> jordguitar, search for it with Synaptic
[07:29] <GigaClon> System -> Admin
[07:29] <unop> jordguitar,  just run the apaitude command i gave you -- and it should install
[07:29] <bulmer> today i get to reboot a 100MHz PII based pc and it is connected to a 100BaseT ethernet...thats classic..
[07:30] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop/cabextract-1.1$ sudo aptitude install cabextract
[07:30] <jordguitar> Reading package lists... Done
[07:30] <jordguitar> Building dependency tree
[07:30] <jordguitar> Reading state information... Done
[07:30] <jordguitar> Initializing package states... Done
[07:30] <jordguitar> Building tag database... Done
[07:30] <jordguitar> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "cabextract"
[07:30] <jordguitar> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[07:30] <jordguitar> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:30] <jordguitar> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[07:30] <unop> !paste | jordguitar
[07:30] <ubotu> jordguitar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:31] <unop> jordguitar,  you on dapper?
[07:31] <Skuller> how do i uninstall an appz wich i installed using wine?
[07:31] <jordguitar> wtf is dapper?
[07:31] <jussi01> 6.06 dapper drake
[07:31] <cables> jordguitar, it's the codename for version 6.06 of Ubuntu
[07:31] <unop> jordguitar,  ok, let me try again, what version of ubuntu do you run?
[07:31] <jordguitar> Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 6.10
[07:31] <jordguitar>                 - the Edgy Eft - released in October 2006.
[07:32] <jordguitar> damn wireless mouse
[07:32] <slvmchn> what's after edgy
[07:32] <cables> slvmchn, Feisty Fawn
[07:32] <cables> !feisty | slvmchn
[07:32] <ubotu> slvmchn: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <slvmchn> ah that's right, ubuntu is every 6 months, i thought it was a year for some reason
[07:33] <yellow> IcemanV9, new kernel update is out
[07:33] <yellow> :)
[07:33] <yellow> 2.6.15.28
[07:34] <unop> jordguitar,  ok, looks like you might have a problem with your sources.list -- but for now -- download this file http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/cabextract/cabextract_1.1-1_i386.deb  and run this command -- sudo dpkg -i cab*deb
[07:34] <Skuller> how do i uninstall an appz wich i installed using wine?
[07:35] <unop> Skuller,  manually, by deleting the individual files in the program files folder -- and also in the registry
[07:35] <Skuller> unopL how do i do that in da registry?
[07:36] <LinX>  hey nooblets who needs help
[07:36] <unop> Skuller,  well, we all know the registry is a complex place with stuff placed all over, it's a messy situation so there is no straight answer -- usually in HKLM\Software\
[07:36] <jordguitar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5018/
[07:37] <unop> jordguitar,  where did you download that file to?
[07:37] <mikemacd> what do i do? error when trying to boot ubuntu live cd!
[07:37] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[07:37] <jordguitar> desktop i think
[07:37] <LinX>  umm jordguitar is that * ment to be there
[07:37] <Skuller> unop: where do i access the registry from?
[07:37] <fluvvell> I'm having trouble printing from my dapper laptop to my edgy desktop printer. cups access_log shows the successful and job attributes, but I cant find where it stops...
[07:37] <IcemanV9> yellow: still holding back .. i'll check it again tommorrow or two.
[07:37] <damage> Hello everyone, I am a real noob. I am  trying to remove the old version of ieee80211. I try to run . remove-old but i get permission deined
[07:37] <unop> jordguitar,  well, from the output of this command it looks like it doesnt exist in that directory -- please verify
[07:38] <LinX>  fluvvwell what do you get when you do http://localhost:631/printers?
[07:38] <yellow> IcemanV9, i'm running the update now
[07:38] <yellow> :)
[07:38] <jordguitar> that was the error i got
[07:38] <fluvvell> LinX, on the edgy box?
[07:38] <jordguitar> unchanged
[07:38] <unop> Skuller,    wine ~/.wine/c_drive/windows/system32/regegit.exe
[07:38] <frogzoo> Skuller: either run the uninstall.exe or run wine uninstaller
[07:38] <LinX> damage use sudo before the comand or sudo nautilus then delete it
[07:38] <LinX> fluvvell on the computer that is serving the printer
[07:38] <Phineas> hi, just joined and i'm jazzed!
[07:38] <damage> sudo says . command not known
[07:39] <LinX> damage whats the command you are doing ?
[07:39] <damage> . remove-old
[07:39] <bulmer> LinX how do you test an LPD services installed on a windows XP?  can one telnet to it and see what is in the queue?
[07:39] <LinX>  try sudo remove-old
[07:39] <fluvvell> LinX, I get the lovely cups printers web admin page with my printer showing up.
[07:39] <LinX>  bulmer im not sure sorry
[07:39] <Skuller> unop: thanx
[07:40] <bulmer> LinX oh okay...
[07:40] <Phineas> now that i've got ubuntu desktop, do i just install ubuntu server over it for LAMP?
[07:40] <LinX>  fluvvel: whats the ip address of the print server?
[07:40] <Skuller> frogzoo: yea i managed to use the uninstaller in the folder of the game
[07:40] <damage> sudo: remove-old: command not found
[07:40] <Skuller> frogzoo: thnx
[07:40] <damage>  thats what I get
[07:40] <jordguitar> Oh i got it to work now
[07:40] <LinX> phineas- you should install ubuntu-server from scratch
[07:40] <mikemacd> what do i do? error when trying to boot ubuntu live cd!
[07:40] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[07:40] <LinX> mikemacd- is this a old hdd?
[07:41] <mikemacd> nope.
[07:41] <mikemacd> someone told me
[07:41] <mikemacd> i had to enable DMA in my BIOS
[07:41] <Flannel> SurfnKid: No, sorry.  I have no idea what groups are like in Win2K
[07:41] <mikemacd> but i looked around the bios
[07:41] <Phineas> i tried that but didn't get any gui, is that right?
[07:41] <mikemacd> and couldnt find anything about DMA
[07:41] <unop> damage, run this command to find out where it exists - locate remove-old
[07:41] <GigaClon> System -> Admin
[07:41] <Bsims> Anyone here run in to any problems with rdiff-backup on ubuntu?
[07:41] <GigaClon> I keep getting this error everywherer, libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[07:41] <jordguitar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5019/
[07:42] <damage> done
[07:42] <yellow> Bsims, nope
[07:42] <SurfnKid> Flannel: its cool, but they are just like on linux, simpler tho
[07:42] <protocol2> is there a command I can use to remove the newer kernel from my machine?
[07:42] <LinX> phineas- yeh thats the point of ubuntu server lol if you want gui  you could install ubuntu-desktop but that defeats the purpose of it install fluxbox
[07:42] <damage> I am in the directory it lives in
[07:42] <LinX> fluvvel: well whats the ip of the edgy box
[07:42] <damage> when I type .remove-old
[07:42] <Bsims> yellow it was whining about read only I am reruning it with force
[07:42] <damage> it runs the script, it asks to remove the old files, I say yes
[07:42] <yellow> protocol2, kernel 2.6.15.28 ?
[07:42] <damage> then it say permission denied
[07:42] <unop> SurfnKid,  ahh no, windows permissions are much much more complex than unix ones -- they have all kinds of permissions while unix only has 3
[07:42] <fluvvell> LinX, ip is 192.168.0.125
[07:42] <LinX> damage : try sudo remove-old
[07:43] <SurfnKid> unop: and thats it right? oh good
[07:43] <damage> when I try sudo infront, I get command not found
[07:43] <IcemanV9> yellow: where are ya? i'm in us :/
[07:43] <LinX> fluvvel: ok now on the client ( dapper) go http://192.168.0.125:631/printers
[07:43] <NoStop> damage: try sudo ./remove-old
[07:43] <bulmer> protocol2: i believe you can remove what on /boot/  but i believe the kernel is linked to the libraries, so your system may not work by just removing that new kernel
[07:43] <yellow> Bsims, check where you write the backup to / file permission
[07:43] <Bsims> yellow: usually rdiff is perfect but this a my book and it seems hotter than hell
[07:43] <Phineas> thanks LinX
[07:43] <unop> damage,  what  . remove-old does is execute  remove-old -- but that file could be anywhere -- you need to find out where it is
[07:43] <damage> sudo: ./remove-old: command not found
[07:43] <yellow> IcemanV9,  central us
[07:43] <Bsims> yellow: to a usb drive as root via sudo -i
[07:44] <unop> damage,  did locate return anything>?
[07:44] <damage> yes
[07:44] <yellow> Bsims, ntfs ?
[07:44] <LinX>  thats alright phinease it was a pleasure
[07:44] <unop> damage,  how many entries returned?
[07:44] <NoStop> damage: ok try this then, in a terminal do .... sudo -i
[07:44] <damage> I am running the file "remove-old" from the directory it in
[07:44] <jordguitar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5019/
[07:44] <NoStop> damage: then try and run the command
[07:44] <yellow> Bsims, ntfs are read-only, unless you try ntfs-3g
[07:44] <Bsims> yellow: reformatted to ext3 fs
[07:44] <IcemanV9> yellow: what the heck  .. me, too. which server do u use then?
[07:45] <yellow> Bsims, i'm not sure then, check your perms
[07:45] <unop> damage, if thats the case - sudo sh remove-old
[07:45] <IcemanV9> yellow: us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:45] <fluvvell> LinX, its bizzarre, the job leaves the laptop and dissappears into the ether
[07:45] <yellow> IcemanV9, security repositories
[07:45] <Bsims> Hrm all it says is owned by root root and it was all what ever the defaults are
[07:46] <LinX>  umm fluvell im stumped then
[07:46] <Skuller> how do i install the fork of GAIM wich supports VOICE chat and video?......i managed to go to the site and get the first file with a tar.gz extension
[07:46] <damage> That did it "sh"!! what does "SH" mean/do?
[07:46] <yellow> IcemanV9,  i open univers and multiverse on my list
[07:46] <nikosapi> Hello, does anyone have any idea how I can get a framebuffer console on the tvout of my nvidia card?
[07:46] <fluvvell> 192.168.0.122 - - [10/Feb/2007:19:45:06 +1300]  "POST /printers/Stylus-Photo-R210 HTTP/1.1" 200 253 Get-Job-Attributes successful-ok
[07:46] <Flannel> !compile | Skuller
[07:46] <ubotu> Skuller: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:46] <unop> damage,  sh is the original bourne shell
[07:46] <IcemanV9> yellow: same here.
[07:46] <Bsims> Jesus that thing is hot... segate is vastly cooler
[07:46] <damage> ahhh
[07:46] <jordguitar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5019/     can anyone help with that
[07:46] <unop> damage,  you could have used bash too -- sudo bash remove-old
[07:46] <yellow> IcemanV9,  the system doesn't like you then :P
[07:46] <jeffwheeler> so, what's the general concensus on the Linspire stuff?
[07:47] <damage> after 2hours googling, thanks guys!
[07:47] <Flannel> jeffwheeler: that's a perfect question for #ubuntu-offtopic ;)  this is for support related chatter
[07:47] <Skuller> flannel, isnt there a simpler way than to try to understand that complicated (for me) method?
[07:47] <jeffwheeler> Flannel: ah, sorry!
[07:47] <dserban> any way I can try to force a file off a scratched cd?  ie... keep trying until it gets it?
[07:47] <unop> jordguitar,  after installing cabextract -- why are you trying unshield -- try this - cabextract DATA1.CAB
[07:47] <yellow> IcemanV9, it's slow as heck though, 90 kbps
[07:48] <Flannel> Skuller: if they only give source, then... you'll have to compile it.  If they give other things... debs or whatever.
[07:48] <unop> jordguitar,  or better - cabextract -d data DATA1.CAB
[07:48] <Cyrus25801> how do i play .wmv files
[07:48] <unop> !w32codecs | Cyrus25801
[07:48] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:48] <Cyrus25801> unop: thank you
[07:49] <IcemanV9> yellow: mine says -.26 and -.28 -- i'll wait when all are -.28
[07:50] <yellow> IcemanV9, that's why i said, the system doesn't like you
[07:50] <yellow> :P
[07:50] <yellow> >_>
[07:50] <yellow> ^^!
[07:50] <IcemanV9> oy!
[07:50] <jordguitar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5020/
[07:51] <yellow> Bsims, if it sucks that bad i can always find some use for it
[07:51] <yellow> :P
[07:52] <Ruckus> http://www.uploadit.biz/uploads/images/screenshot69889.png
[07:52] <Bsims> yellow: Heh Worst Buy had the premium version for less than the basic
[07:52] <shatrat> jordguitar, ndiswrapper problems?
[07:52] <IcemanV9> wait a minute! it's working! i used a wrong command. duh! i used upgrade instead of dist-upgrade. :D
[07:52] <yellow> Bsims, premium of ??
[07:52] <Nergar> hello
[07:52] <yellow> IcemanV9, hehe
[07:53] <Nergar> how do i add extra repositories to my feisty???
[07:53] <jordguitar> you told me to run cabextract -d data DATA1.CAB
[07:53] <Bsims> yellow: Western Digital MyBook
[07:53] <jordguitar> and that is what i got
[07:53] <shatrat> Nergar, I assume you add them to /etc/apt/sources.list like with all the other ubuntuses.
[07:53] <jordguitar> i need to install my usb internet thing so that i can move this computer back
[07:53] <yellow> Bsims, never used that before
[07:53] <yellow> =)
[07:53] <Bsims> yellow: I got a 500GB external HD with both usb and external SATA for 250
[07:54] <shatrat> jordguitar, did you use that how-to I linked earlier?
[07:54] <yellow> Bsims, sweet deal
[07:54] <Bsims> yellow: me either... my normal backup is a segate 300GB usb/firewire
[07:54] <Nergar> shatrat: in synaptic, want to install from "universe"
[07:54] <Flannel> !universe | Nergar
[07:54] <ubotu> Nergar: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:54] <jordguitar> I have it pulled up on another computer but now the codes are wrong because i installed another cab extract program
[07:54] <Bsims> the segate runs much cooler
[07:55] <unop> jordguitar,  hmm .. looks like its not a ms-zip archive and its indeed an installshield file -- sudo aptitude install unshield; unsheidl DATA1.CAB
[07:55] <Bsims> course the segate was on debian Sid and the WD is on Ubuntu
[07:55] <shatrat> jordguitar, the guide says to use "unshield x DATA1.CAB"
[07:55] <Nergar> Flannel; for feisty
[07:56] <jordguitar> bash: unshield: command not found
[07:56] <yellow> IcemanV9, time to reboot, wooooot!
[07:56] <IcemanV9> yellow: system restart required :D (it's done)
[07:56] <unop> jordguitar,  did you install the package ?
[07:56] <jordguitar> yes
[07:56] <Flannel> Nergar: doesn't matter what version you use.  Adding universe to your repositories is the same in each.  If you do think it's a different process (which, it may be, I suppose), Feisty support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:57] <brombomb> Whenever I try to use my quote or apostrophe Im getting spanish chars, anyone know how to change this?
[07:57] <unop> jordguitar, what does this command return ?  /usr/bin/unshield
[07:57] <Nergar> thnx
[07:58] <jordguitar> bash: return: ?: numeric argument required
[07:58] <jordguitar> bash: return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script
[07:58] <unop> jordguitar,  oops .. the ? wasnt supposed to be part of the command :)
[07:58] <unop> jordguitar,  just this   /usr/bin/unshield
[07:59] <Glombool> !kqemu
[07:59] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> What's the pupose of this latest kernel update? I can't find it on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[07:59] <ssdsd> .....
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> !linux-generic
[07:59] <jordguitar> bash: /usr/bin/unshield: No such file or directory
[07:59] <ubotu> linux-generic: Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:00] <unop> jordguitar,  hmm -- run this one - dpkg -l | grep -i unsheild
[08:00] <jordguitar> ok got another input line
[08:01] <unop> jordguitar,  what does it say?
[08:01] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$ dpkg -l | grep -i unsheild
[08:01] <jordguitar> jordguitar@jordguitar-desktop:~/Desktop$
[08:01] <unop> jordguitar, the package hasnt been installed --  sudo aptitude install unshield
[08:02] <yellow> wooot!
[08:02] <jordguitar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5021/
[08:03] <djmlog103> ?
[08:04] <yasi8h> djmlog whats up?
[08:04] <djmlog103> cool
[08:04] <yasi8h> ok hows ubuntu?
[08:04] <djmlog103> machan me maka hariyanne ne
[08:05] <yasi8h> than ubata help ganna puluwanne
[08:05] <djmlog103> kagenda?
[08:05] <IcemanV9> yellow: looks like it works for you and me :)
[08:05] <crusoe> How do I got about setting up shares on my ubuntu box?
[08:05] <jordguitar> i am going back to windows xp
[08:05] <yellow> IcemanV9, yessire
[08:05] <Thrashers7989> hey guys. i've been on ubuntu for 3 days now. i'm pretty new to linux altogether and i was wondering if there was a good resource for really learning this operating system
[08:05] <Hellevator> lol anybody see this picture?
[08:05] <Hellevator> http://techdigest.tv/pcmaclinux.jpg
[08:06] <Hellevator> sorry i just realized thats offtopic
[08:06] <IcemanV9> yellow: it's interesing that 28 image uses 26 modules; i wonder why
[08:06] <jussi01> jordguitar you can download the deb from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/unshield/
[08:06] <_mdh> Hellevator: was that the one on digg a few days ago?
[08:07] <unop> Thrashers7989,  the best way to learn is just experience it -- everyday you will discover new ways of doing things and overtime you will learn
[08:07] <Hellevator> _mdh, it might have been, its on reddit today
[08:07] <unop> jussi01,  he has gone back to windows XP :(
[08:07] <Flannel> jussi01, just so you know, debian and ubuntu don't necessarily have binary compatability
[08:07] <jussi01> thanks flannel
[08:08] <jussi01> didnt know that
[08:08] <yellow> IcemanV9, ther's 28 module
[08:09] <jwtod1> hey ... i was on here last weekend building a new system w/ an x64 dual core cpu and an 8800 nv graphics card. just wanted to report that installing 6.10 alternate and then installing the 8800 driver from nvidia.com along w/ apt-get install build-essentials did the trick. ... and ... thx for the help :)
[08:09] <PORDO> http://techdigest.tv/pcmaclinux.jpg
[08:09] <crusoe> How do I got about setting up file shares on my ubuntu box?
[08:09] <Flannel> PORDO: that's offtopic.  And even then, recently mentioned anyway.
[08:09] <Flannel> crusoe: what sort of file shares?
[08:10] <IcemanV9> yellow: if you could look at /var/log/aptitude, it tells me that it use 26, not 28. i'm confused. :/
[08:10] <crusoe> music, movies, the sort
[08:10] <Flannel> crusoe: right... but, like, windows sharing? or like ftp? or what?
[08:10] <yellow> IcemanV9, system update tell me it's 28
[08:10] <yellow> IcemanV9, let me check log
[08:10] <crusoe> no no, just need access from a mac
[08:10] <crusoe> to the ubuntu box
[08:11] <Thrashers7989> out of curiosity, has anybody switched to ubuntu from windows vista?
[08:11] <Thrashers7989> in my experience, vista is a terrible os. it's just like xp with useless features and it runs slower
[08:12] <jwtod1> now i need to get my creative sound card working.
[08:12] <jwtod1> then i'm golden :)
[08:12] <_mdh> Thrashers7989: vista is such a dog everyone initially suckered by the M$ marketing machine seems to be switching from it to something else
[08:12] <jussi01> thrashers7989: thats offtopic: go to #ubuntuforums
[08:13] <ShiNicHi_KuDo> hkhgk
[08:13] <IcemanV9> !sound | jwtod1
[08:13] <ubotu> jwtod1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:13] <Flannel> crusoe: well, you can do something like Samba or NFS
[08:14] <crusoe> flannel: i thought samba was for accessing windows shares?
[08:14] <jwtod1> i need to install m4 and such. is there a meta name i an use in apt-get for bin utilities? i seem to recall there was an "bin-utils" or some such?
[08:14] <jwtod1> thx, looking into alsa now.
[08:14] <unop> crusoe,  that would be the samba client
[08:15] <unop> crusoe,  the samba server provides for windows shares
[08:15] <jwtod1> 6.10 looks rocking folks! btw. glad to be "home" :)
[08:15] <crusoe> unop: hey again! :P So should I install samba on the ubuntu box?
[08:15] <jussi01> btw, where would i find a list of ! bot comands?
[08:15] <_mdh> jwtod1: build-essentials ?
[08:15] <unop> jwtod1,  binutils
[08:15] <jwtod1> i did build-essentials and m4 wasn't included
[08:15] <_mdh> well... its not exactly essential ;)
[08:16] <unop> crusoe,  hey :) install samba if you wish to share with windows computers
[08:16] <_mdh> binutils has ld etc and is in build-essentials iirc
[08:16] <jwtod1> hmmmm ... m4 isn't in binutils
[08:16] <_mdh> m4 is separate
[08:16] <jwtod1> k. thx.
[08:16] <unop> jwtod1,  m4 is its own package
[08:16] <crusoe> unop: what if i want to share with windows and macs?
[08:16] <jwtod1> i'll go after 'em one at time then.
[08:16] <djmlog103> does anyone know how to get read/write access to the windows partitions from ubuntu?
[08:17] <Flannel> !ntfs | djmlog103
[08:17] <ubotu> djmlog103: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:17] <verbose> djmlog103: you can use captive-ntfs
[08:17] <djmlog103> thanks
[08:17] <verbose> i've used it and it works well, although it's still not stable
[08:17] <yasi8h> djmlog ;-)
[08:17] <unop> crusoe,  samba is a good one .. you can use FTP too -- samba would be better as windows computers like it better
[08:17] <_mdh> verbose: use ntfs-3g instead of captive now
[08:17] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | djmlog
[08:17] <ubotu> djmlog: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:17] <unop> !ntfs-3g | djmlog103
[08:17] <ubotu> djmlog103: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:18] <crusoe> samba it is...what's the cmd to install it? would i use apt-get?
[08:18] <verbose> _mdh: true, that's actually what i was talking about
[08:18] <verbose> brain fart
[08:18] <unop> crusoe,  sudo aptitude install samba smbfs
[08:19] <djmlog103> i looked at the dapper starter guide, it has some help in there too, but after i did the things they've asked in that, now i dont even see my partitions
[08:19] <yasi8h> djmlog, what r the things you did?
[08:19] <yasi8h> *are
[08:19] <hnsn> what "things" did you do? =D
[08:19] <djmlog103> entered the commands specified in the guide
[08:20] <unop> .o0( he removed a few harddrives and such ..  )
[08:20] <hnsn> all of them? =D
[08:20] <yasi8h> commands... which ones?
[08:20] <djmlog103> yes
[08:20] <Dorchester> anyone know why I can't upgrade to 2.6.17-11? If I try to install the packages through Synaptic it says "Depends linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic but it is  not installable"
[08:20] <unop> djmlog103,  do you remember the commands? or the page in the guide?
[08:20] <_mdh> Dorchester: hmmm.. that prob was fixed for me today
[08:20] <djmlog103> i dont know, does anyone know a software to get those things done for me?
[08:21] <Dorchester> _mdh, how was it fixed?
[08:21] <_mdh> Dorchester: the missing packages made it to the archives this time ;)
[08:21] <unop> Dorchester,  i'd make sure /etc/apt/sources.list was like this http://pastebin.ca/348586  -- and then run - sudo aptitude update   and then try again
[08:21] <_mdh> Dorchester: the other day just the meta-packages were uploaded, so everythign broke :(
[08:22] <djmlog103> hmmm
[08:22] <yasi8h> djmlog: why dont you use a sparate fat parttition for exchanging file between linux and windows if thats your need?
[08:22] <djmlog103> this is what i did to get the partition access.
[08:22] <djmlog103> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[08:23] <djmlog103> can anyone check it out and tell me if itll get those access rights
[08:23] <Flannel> djmlog103: ubuntuguide.org isn't safe.  nor is it in any way official.
[08:23] <djmlog103> well, do you know a better site?
[08:23] <Flannel> djmlog103: yes, the ubuntu wiki.
[08:24] <Dorchester> _mdh, unop: ahh I didn't realize that I didn't have the most recent package lists. Thank you.
[08:24] <djmlog103> does it work?
[08:24] <dynamicreflux> any idea why my window applets constantly change in size from small to large, even if there is just 1 or 2?
[08:24] <jussi01> djmlog103: your running dapper? use:  http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[08:25] <IcemanV9> i forgot how to remove old kernel (grub is getting too LONG)
[08:25] <Flannel> IcemanV9: just remove them like any other piece of software
[08:25] <Flannel> IcemanV9: go into synaptic and remove the old linux-images
[08:26] <jwtod1> likely a faq but i'll ask ... glxgears and fps output? how?
[08:26] <_mdh> Dorchester: just make a habit of running "apt-get update" before installing anything
[08:26] <jwtod1> i don't see a --help for glxgears
[08:26] <jwtod1> thx
[08:26] <shatrat> jwtod1, glxgears --showfps
[08:26] <jwtod1> :)
[08:27] <crusoe> unop: what's the "apitude" cmd do?
[08:27] <Flannel> jwtod1: glxgears -iacknowledgethisisnotabenchmark works too
[08:27] <crusoe> unop: aptitude*
[08:27] <jwtod1> james@xphylz:~/Documents$ glxgears --showfps
[08:27] <jwtod1> Warrning: unknown parameter: --showfps
[08:27] <jwtod1> no dice :(
[08:27] <unop> crusoe,  like apt-get -- it installs stuff
[08:27] <IcemanV9> Flannel: gotcha .. e.g. sudo aptitude remove linux-image-2.6.15-23-686  :D
[08:27] <Flannel> IcemanV9: right, although you probably want --purge too
[08:27] <Flannel> IcemanV9: and be careful not to remove the most recent one ;)
[08:27] <Flannel> jwtod1: it's printfps
[08:28] <_mdh> crusoe: APT has a bunch of frontends, apt-get is one, aptitude is another, synaptic is another, wajig is another, ...
[08:28] <dynamicreflux> any idea why my window applets constantly change in size from small to large, even if there is just 1 or 2?
[08:28] <jwtod1> much better
[08:28] <crusoe> _mdh: perfect timing! i was just about to ask what the differences were
[08:28] <IcemanV9> Flannel: heh. yea. i know. want to leave two latest kernels instead of four. ty though. :)
[08:29] <jwtod1> just wonder ... is this good || bad || indifferent?
[08:29] <_mdh> I'm psyhco
[08:29] <jwtod1> james@xphylz:~/Documents$ glxgears -printfps
[08:29] <jwtod1> 118493 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23698.557 FPS
[08:29] <jwtod1> 118472 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23694.287 FPS
[08:29] <crusoe> _mdh: so is any one better than the other?
[08:29] <_mdh> er... psychic ;-)
[08:29] <slavekk> hello. greetings from poland
[08:29] <_mdh> crusoe: they claim aptitude resolves dependencies better than apt-get
[08:29] <slavekk> i have one question
[08:29] <crusoe> _mdh: then aptitude it is!
[08:29] <Dorchester> _mdh, honestly, I thought the Software Updater utility automatically did that. I don't often Apt-get anything, in fact I very rarely even go into Synaptic
[08:29] <_mdh> crusoe: other than that, its personal taste
[08:30] <Flannel> !ask | slavekk
[08:30] <ubotu> slavekk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:30] <unop> _mdh,  its not a claim .. its a proven fact
[08:30] <jussi01> go ahead slavekk
[08:30] <IcemanV9> jwtod1: w0w. that IS good!
[08:30] <jwtod1> 6600 cp and 8800 gpu :)
[08:30] <jwtod1> errr
[08:30] <jwtod1> 6600 cpu and 8800 gpu
[08:30] <slavekk> how to run sound on the browser. i don't want to use IE beacuse it makes no sense
[08:30] <shatrat> jwtod1, I can blow your score away by minimizing the window.  Glxgears is not a benchmark.
[08:30] <jwtod1> fresh from newegg :)
[08:31] <jwtod1> way to rain on my parade compadre
[08:31] <slavekk> i.e. youtube
[08:31] <ardchoille> jwtod1: lol
[08:31] <jwtod1> just testing the water bro. that's all.
[08:31] <shatrat> slavekk, perhaps you need the newest version of flash
[08:31] <cirkit> is ubuntu as good as real debian or a knock-off? I just want some honest feedback before I bother
[08:31] <shatrat> !flash9 | slavekk
[08:31] <ubotu> slavekk: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:31] <slavekk> yes i got it but nothing happens
[08:31] <jwtod1> ubuntu bloody rocks! ummm ... it's GOOD :)
[08:31] <Flannel> !sound | slavekk
[08:31] <ubotu> slavekk: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:31] <slavekk> i use xubuntu 6.10
[08:31] <shatrat> cirkit, its a cheap knockoff produced in southeast asia.  We would all use real debian if we could afford it.
[08:31] <unop> cirkit,  in someways its more current than debian -- in otherways, its not as stable as debian
[08:31] <ardchoille> cirkit: I have been using Ubuntu since Warty and it has been the most rock solid distro I have found. Does everything I need a computer to do.
[08:32] <jwtod1> i second that.
[08:32] <jwtod1> go ubuntu or go home :)
[08:32] <ardchoille> :)
[08:32] <Madpilot> shatrat, :P
[08:33] <slavekk> alsa mixer???
[08:33] <_mdh> shatrat: get with it, man... SE asia has been superceeded by Iran these days
[08:33] <cirkit> a while back in here some guy informed me by having +v in this channel you are the owner...
[08:33] <_Qwerty_> how do I choose reiserfs at install?
[08:33] <shatrat> _mdh, they dont even have porn in Iran, get real.
[08:33] <ardchoille> cirkit: I only install from the repos, never compile anyting (no need, the repos are huge) and I've never had a crash or major problem in gnome.
[08:33] <_mdh> shatrat: sure they do... they just don't tell anyone ;)
[08:33] <cirkit> ahhhh
[08:33] <jwtod1> w0t? no pr0n? no way.
[08:33] <Madpilot> cirkit, +v is just "voiced", nothing to do w/ channel ownership..
[08:34] <_mdh> cirkit: if the channel goes private, only people with +v can publically speak
[08:34] <cirkit> ohh ok
[08:35] <_mdh> cirkit: I've only seen that happen, for real, once... lots of crap flooding
[08:35] <encompass> I am trying to test a live webcam feed... would anyone like to try?
[08:35] <shatrat> !itsatrap
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itsatrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <encompass> anyone anyone
[08:35] <encompass> you can even be in windows
[08:36] <_mdh> encompass: what's windows?
[08:36] <encompass> :P
[08:36] <ardchoille> Windows is still around?
[08:36] <shatrat> encompass, is it a web feed or what?
[08:36] <encompass> yeah
[08:36] <encompass> I am working with some programming and need to test it
[08:36] <jwtod1> is bum still a good runlevel editor? or is there better these days?
[08:36] <shatrat> whats the address...and if your enaked I will never forgive you
[08:36] <verve> which utility would i require to convert FLAC to MP3?
[08:36] <verve> would LAME do it?
[08:36] <shatrat> unless youre jessica alba.
[08:36] <encompass> anyone?
[08:36] <hnsn> encompass what do i need to do? =D
[08:37] <ardchoille> jwtod1: I use sysv-rc-conf for that
[08:37] <encompass> ok just a sec
[08:37] <jwtod1> coolio. thx.
[08:37] <Op3r> aw i have beryl working, now my problem is when i play video and move vlc window all i can see is black but the sound is still there. any hints?
[08:37] <ardchoille> !sysv-rc-conf
[08:37] <ubotu> sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[08:37] <hnsn> shatrat was first ...
[08:37] <_mdh> I'm not naked, but I have beer.... shoudl I setup a webcam?
[08:37] <verve> Op3r, out of video memory or something
[08:37] <verve> some nVidia bug
[08:37] <hnsn> _mdh yes
[08:37] <Flannel> Op3r: if you think it's a beryl issue, you might be better off in #ubuntu-effects
[08:38] <Op3r> verve im using ATI (built in on my sony vaio laptop)
[08:38] <verve> oh
[08:38] <verve> dunno
[08:38] <shatrat> Op3r, that happens when you run out of video ram.  Theres ways around it but I just switch the window manager to metacity for watching movies.
[08:38] <verve> google beryl black screen
[08:38] <verve> or black windows
[08:38] <crazy_penguin> Good morning!
[08:38] <Op3r> shatrat, so i should prolly set my video ram to 128mb maybe.
[08:38] <shatrat> crazy_penguin, good evening.
[08:38] <ardchoille> shatrat: I use openbox as my wm in gnome and watching DVD's in xine/mplayer works great.
[08:39] <boyet> hello
[08:39] <encompass> hoi
[08:39] <crazy_penguin> shatrat: good evening to you also
[08:39] <shatrat> ardchoille, anything but beryl is less strenuos than beryl.
[08:39] <ardchoille> shatrat: :)
[08:39] <Skuller> flannel, i get this error while configuring during compliling  Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[08:39] <Skuller> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[08:39] <Skuller> *** exact error that occurred. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.configure: error:
[08:39] <Skuller> *** GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GLib
[08:39] <Skuller> *** development headers installed. The latest version of GLib is
[08:39] <Skuller> *** always available at http://www.gtk.org/.
[08:39] <crusoe> What does "chmod 777" cmd do?
[08:40] <Op3r> crusoe, +rwxrwxrwx
[08:40] <Op3r> ?
[08:40] <Skuller> can sum1 help me regarding my compiling please?
[08:40] <crusoe> op3r: huh?
[08:40] <slavekk> that's me again. after i had typed aplay -l  i got result: VIA 8237 (music card on board) what i have to do?
[08:40] <Op3r> brb gotta set the videoram to 64
[08:40] <ardchoille> Skuller: What are you compiling?
[08:40] <_mdh> crusoe: it'll make the file you chmod readable, writable and executable to the owner, group and everyone else
[08:40] <slavekk> to lay sound in youtube
[08:40] <slavekk> now?
[08:40] <slavekk> :-(((
[08:40] <Skuller> fork of GAIM wich supports video and sound
[08:40] <_mdh> crusoe: usually its a v. bad idea
[08:41] <crusoe> it's for a public share on a server
[08:41] <Skuller> ardchoille, fork of GAIM wich supports video and sound for MSN
[08:41] <Op3r> crusoe, sorry for being vague but yep it will set it read,write,exec to all
[08:41] <crusoe> ahh, alright, that's good then.  I'll need that
[08:42] <crusoe> Does the 777 represent some different parameter>
[08:42] <ardchoille> Wouldn't chmod 777 allow the public to edit/delete the file?
[08:42] <_mdh> crusoe: you'd be better off making it 775 and making sure logged-in users are in that group
[08:42] <_mdh> ardchoille: every file, and the directory itself
[08:43] <_mdh> wait... no
[08:43] <ardchoille> _mdh: Ah
[08:43] <slavekk> anyone could help me 'cause i will be unavailable for three days :-/
[08:43] <slavekk> and i want make this clear
[08:43] <_mdh> just all the files in it
[08:44] <ardchoille> crusoe: I think 775 would be better unless you want to allow the public to edit/delete files.
[08:44] <Skuller> can sum1 help me get GLIB thru a repository rather than goin thri the compiling process for GTK2+
[08:44] <crusoe> so with 775, i'd need to setup user accounts?
[08:45] <slavekk> so anyone? :-(((((((((((((((((((((((
[08:45] <ardchoille> crusoe: with 775, the public will still be able to view the files, but not edit them
[08:45] <_mdh> crusoe: no, just have the samba (or whatever) server in the group
[08:46] <slavekk> hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllo!!!!
[08:46] <_mdh> crusoe: also, "man chmod" will tell you how the numbers work
[08:46] <slavekk> that's me again. after i had typed aplay -l  i got result: VIA 8237 (music card on board) what i have to do?
[08:46] <pavs> was there a new kernel release today? it wacked up my wireless, i have to login on my previous kernel to get wireless.
[08:46] <Flannel> crusoe: you can set up a public ftp.  without having to deal with funny permissions
[08:47] <crusoe> _mdh: just found the chmod man online, so we're good.  but how do i add the samba server to the group? and what's this group we're talking about, lol
[08:47] <_mdh> pavs: 2.6.17-11 finally went in properly today...
[08:48] <_mdh> crusoe: every file/dir on your system has an owner and a group.  "ls -l" will display this info.
[08:48] <pavs> where can i get the change log/improvements from previous versions?
[08:48] <jussi01> anyone used xupload and got it working? Im having troubles
[08:48] <Flannel> !permissions | crusoe
[08:48] <ubotu> crusoe: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:48] <ardchoille> pavs: Those are usually in /usr/share/doc/appname
[08:48] <_mdh> oooh a bot
[08:49] <pavs> thanks
[08:49] <maxagaz> is there a command line to convert clariswork files into openoffice or just text files ?
[08:49] <jwtod1> aptitude vs synaptic?
[08:49] <crusoe> ok cool. thanls
[08:49] <crusoe> thanks*
[08:49] <pavs> synaptic. aptitude doesnt ditect alot of things, synaptic is smoooooth
[08:49] <sparr> how can i tell which application is causing ram/swap activity?
[08:50] <jwtod1> thx pavs
[08:50] <_mdh> sparr: vmstat
[08:50] <slavekk> buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :-((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((9
[08:50] <pavs> np :)
[08:50] <ardchoille> slavekk: If no one knows the answer, you won't get a response.
[08:50] <_mdh> jwtod1: I prefer wajig =)
[08:50] <sparr> _mdh: can you be more specific?
[08:51] <slavekk> that's me again. after i had typed aplay -l  i got result: VIA 8237 (music card on board) what i have to do? TO PLAY SOUND (where is alsa so )
[08:51] <Op3r> still blackscreen or half screen
[08:51] <Op3r> hmm
[08:51] <_mdh> sparr: you run vmstat.  then vmstat tells you.
[08:51] <Op3r> :(
[08:51] <Flannel> Op3r: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[08:51] <_mdh> sparr: run it like "vmstat 2" and it'll update every 2 seconds
[08:52] <sparr> _mdh: i dont see process-specific information, what version of vmstat are you using?
[08:52] <jwtod1> wajig ... googled ... interesting :)
[08:52] <slavekk> so???????????????????????????????????/
[08:52] <_mdh> sparr: oh... process specific... my bad.  try sar
[08:52] <_mdh> sparr: or top if you want simplistic info
[08:53] <slavekk> what's the thing with alsa, when i have so results
[08:53] <Flannel> !repeat | slavekk
[08:53] <ubotu> slavekk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:53] <sparr> _mdh: sar = searchandrescue?  top doesnt help
[08:53] <crusoe> Now, I"ve got an external HDD hooked upto the server.  What would i need to do in order to be able to access that from other computers?
[08:53] <_mdh> slavekk: the VIA 8237 isnt a music card, its a south bridge
[08:54] <_mdh> slavekk: the onboard card is probably a realtek
[08:54] <Flannel> crusoe: mount it (so that computer can see it), then... share it or whatever.
[08:54] <slavekk> _mdH. true true. yest the acrd is realtek ac97
[08:54] <_mdh> slavekk: alsa is in your kernel.  if ubuntu hasn't detected your card, it doesn't exist ;)
[08:54] <unop> sparr,  ps u - tells you a bit about memory usage -- depending on the version of top -- changing the mode with M tells you about memory usage too
[08:55] <sparr> unop: i dont need memory usage
[08:55] <slavekk> _mdh. yes but i hear sound exept websites. i've installed flash 9 etc. but nothing happens
[08:55] <Flannel> crusoe: or if you already have a designated share directory, format it, copy the contents of that share directory to it, and then edit your fstab to mount that HDD as that directory
[08:55] <_mdh> sparr: sar is part of sysstat
[08:56] <rpc> for what kind of machines should this kernel be used? 2.6.17-2-486
[08:56] <slavekk> _mdh. :-((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[08:56] <_mdh> slavekk: you might be running some program that has locked the sound device, so your web browser can't use it
[08:56] <unop> sparr, gnome-system-monitor then :)
[08:57] <econobeing> hi
[08:57] <rpc> slavekk mind you... can you narrow down your emotions a bit? :)
[08:57] <sparr> unop: where do i see it in there?
[08:57] <sparr> _mdh: thanks
[08:57] <slavekk> _mdh. ypu mean waht? when check mys ound devices all the boxes are unchecked but sound is available in video, mp3. but no on the websites...
[08:57] <econobeing> my sound just stopped working
[08:57] <econobeing> not in the middle of a session, but when i rebooted
[08:57] <slavekk> econobeing. on the websites?
[08:57] <econobeing> huh?
[08:58] <_mdh> slavekk: you might need to run somethign like esd so multiple programs can share the sound card
[08:58] <unop> sparr,  select the processes tab - then select edit -> preferences -> processes -> process fields and select "virtual memory"
[08:58] <seravitae> hey guys for the last like 3 days or so i am getting connection refused, and connection reset by peer, left right and center.
[08:59] <_mdh> even with also some cards simply won't multiplex :(
[08:59] <_mdh> s/also/slsa/
[08:59] <seravitae> i have a wireshark output of me wgetting a new kernel from kernel.org - so far it is halfway done and i think i have resumed about 8 times.
[08:59] <_mdh> gah
[08:59] <sparr> unop: i dont care how much they are using, i care how often they are using it
[08:59] <sparr> unop: my gimp is using gigs of swap, but its inactive so its not paging at all
[09:00] <_mdh> sparr: his is where the sysstat utilities come into play
[09:01] <unop> sparr,  well if gimp is being used it makes sense to try and keep most of it's working set in RAM rather than on swap .. regular swapping would cause the application to slow down, the disk to be thrashed, the computer to slow down even, etc
[09:01] <sparr> im installing sysstat now
[09:01] <slavekk> _mdh. i will try. thx. bye
[09:01] <sparr> unop: i know all of that
[09:02] <newest> hey there, ive just dl frost wire, but i cant get it to run? i click on the runFrostwire.Sh, but nothing happens? im very very new to linux and ubuntu in general btw
[09:02] <sparr> _mdh: do i have to enable a daemon of some sort to use sar?  it complains it cant find /var/log/sysstat/stuff
[09:02] <Flannel> !frostwire | newest
[09:02] <ubotu> newest: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:02] <unop> sparr, well i can never be sure who knows what eh -- just had to make sure
[09:02] <futz48> newest - best to install Frostwire with Automatix2
[09:03] <futz48> all automagic then
[09:03] <Flannel> newest, futz48, NOOO it's not.
[09:03] <_mdh> sparr: it inits itself on boot... check /etc/rc.d for a startup file
[09:03] <econobeing> no idea what the problem is...
[09:03] <Flannel> futz48: please don't recommend Automatix here.
[09:03] <sparr> unop: when im using gimp, its obvious that gimp is causing the thrash.  my problem is that sometimes i see thrash when no apps should be swapping.  so i want to find out who is at fault
[09:03] <futz48> why?
[09:03] <unop> sparr,  and the gnome-system-monitor does display stats in almost real-time
[09:03] <econobeing> it USED to work...but then i restart and bam, it doesn't work any more
[09:03] <Flannel> futz48: because it's unsafe and breaks peoples systems.
[09:03] <futz48> hmm...
[09:03] <futz48> works great for me
[09:03] <Flannel> !worksforme
[09:03] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:03] <econobeing> didn't find anything on the ubuntu forums
[09:04] <frogzoo> sparr: how much ram/swap ?
[09:04] <futz48> and on 5 other boxes in this room too
[09:04] <futz48> oops - 6
[09:04] <Flannel> futz48: it's unsafe.  It does break systems, and breaks in a way that makes it best to completely reinstall.
[09:04] <newest> ok, now it says it has errors, but ive already installed frostwire, it just wont run
[09:04] <frogzoo> futz48: d/l frostwire deb off their site, instal sun's jre & you're done - no need for automatix at all
[09:05] <musya> is there a way to check what type of memory i have through terminal?
[09:05] <newest> and i dl suns jre
[09:05] <newest> still wont run
[09:05] <sparr> frogzoo: total?  448MiB RAM, 20GB swap
[09:05] <Flannel> newest: you followed the wiki page?
[09:06] <frogzoo> futz48: if you ask people to run automatix, they'll come back here when it breaks...
[09:06] <unop> sparr,  20GB swap? :o thats a lot
[09:06] <sparr> unop: that it is.
[09:06] <_mdh> unop: multimedia pros need that
[09:07] <ardchoille> futz48: I feel it's best to learn how to install/tweak stuff yourself, that way if something breaks you're better equipped, and more knowledgable, to fix it in case you can't get online for some reason.
[09:07] <unop> _mdh,  heh, i know they need a lot, first time i see more than 5GB used for that purpose
[09:07] <frogzoo> sparr: your best move is to install more ram - (if you have a gig, you can swap from ramdisk :) - also, swap as the first partition is a plus for speed
[09:07] <sparr> unop: its striped across 1-4 drives too.  right now two sets of 2 drives
[09:07] <newest> looks like im going to have to start again, so how do i uninstall frostwire?
[09:07] <futz48> I do know how to do it myself, but I'm lazy
[09:07] <sparr> frogzoo: more ram is on my todo list.  a LOT more.  like, say, 7.5GB more  :)
[09:07] <sparr> frogzoo: and yes, my swap partitions are first on every drive
[09:07] <frogzoo> sparr: also, that 20gig of swap is outrageous - you want only 1gig tops
[09:07] <_mdh> unop: although the kernel's vm overcommits and does cow it'll still die occasionally if an app decides to reserve more than its going to use
[09:07] <futz48> and I've never had automatix break anything (except vmware player, but that was easy to fix)
[09:08] <sparr> frogzoo: audacity alone is eating more than a gig of swap right now
[09:08] <_mdh> rather, the app will die and the work is lost
[09:08] <musya> what sort of media are you doing on linux?
[09:08] <frogzoo> sparr: if you've got a gig in swap, you lack of physical memory is killing you
[09:08] <sparr> some audio, a very little video, a LOT of images
[09:08] <sparr> frogzoo: ya think?
[09:08] <_mdh> frogzoo: wrong
[09:09] <sparr> load up an 80k*80k 32bpp image in gimp
[09:09] <sparr> see how much swap it eats
[09:09] <_mdh> frogzoo: its perfectly fine to be many gigs into swap so long as the running application is not being forced into swap more than the system can handle
[09:09] <frogzoo> _mdh: that's a pretty categorical statement, you think?
[09:09] <sparr> gimp has its own efficient paging system, but it doesnt beat OS-provided swap
[09:09] <sparr> especially since my OS-provided swap is striped
[09:09] <newest> omg... i dont even know how to uninstall frostwire
[09:10] <newest> ive dl, installed it, dl and installed jre, but nothing bloody works?
[09:10] <unop> futz48,  the official verdict here is automatix is bad -- it ends up breaking systems for users who dont really know how to work linux, its us then who have to help them out in the end -- and at the end of the day, most things in ubuntu are so easy to use that you really have no need for automatix
[09:10] <frogzoo> sparr: ignore _mdh, if you've only 500meg of ram & a gig swapped out, you have a problem
[09:10] <futz48> ok
[09:10] <futz48> I'm not gonna argue about it
[09:10] <_mdh> frogzoo: no, you may just have a lot of stuff open.
[09:10] <futz48> yer probably right
[09:11] <sparr> frogzoo: a problem with no solution other than buying more ram
[09:11] <sparr> frogzoo: 8GB of ram is on my to-do list, its just gonna take a while
[09:11] <sparr> considering that much more RAM is going to cost 2x as much as my whole PC cost to put together this time  :)
[09:12] <_mdh> yes, by all means ignore someone with 15 years unix sysadmin experience over some kid who got a freebie ubuntu cd and doesn't understand how VM works
[09:12] <sparr> i hated having to give up my DDR, but the swap to DDR2 is a good thing in the long run
[09:12] <ardchoille> sparr: I've never seen a single pc that can take that much ram. I have 1Gb ram on an AMD Sempron 2800+ and my swap is rarely used.
[09:12] <frogzoo> sparr: just 500meg would make a huge difference & cheap
[09:12] <sparr> ardchoille: ive got 4 slots that can all take the biggest DDR2 sticks on the market, and probably bigger if anyone starts making them
[09:13] <unop> ardchoille,  but how much extensive graphical and multimedia work do you do?
[09:13] <sparr> ardchoille: ive opened single pictures larger than 1GB
[09:13] <ardchoille> unop: Nothing more than a lot of gimp work and playing DVD's
[09:13] <SoleiTixen> ...
[09:13] <SoleiTixen> woo!  Go Ubuntu, apparantly!
[09:14] <sparr> ardchoille: go tell gimp to make a new 80000x80000 image  :)
[09:14] <unop> ardchoille,  swap is hardly ever used on desktops nowadays -- but it has its uses in things like 3d, graphics, CAD, databases, etc
[09:14] <ardchoille> unop: Ah
[09:14] <sparr> gimp is actually the worst example, because its own paging system is exceptionally good
[09:14] <econobeing> wierdest thing happened, i got my sound to work, but now my wifi only kind of works
[09:14] <econobeing> the icon says there's no connection, the network devices thing claims to not see my wifi card, but for some reason it still works
[09:16] <_mdh> frogzoo: you can be 150 terabytes into swap usage and it won't mean a damn so long as your paging rate isn't exceeding what your swap filesystems can throughput
[09:16] <_mdh> gah, it left
[09:18] <newest> hey im having problems installing frostwire, ive done everything that the wikiw page says, but its still not working
[09:19] <ubuntu_srr> Hi there! anybody who would share their knowlledge on opening ports in Ubuntu with me?
[09:19] <econobeing> i took the network monitor off of the panel and added it again, and it worked. wierd, but it's fixed
[09:19] <_mdh> welll... that was random
[09:19] <CppIsWeird> how would i go about the task of: i have a ubuntu computer in another location. it is running samba server. How can i get it so that this computer here (windows) and that computer can function on the same "LAN" i believe this is called VPN.
[09:20] <_mdh> bridging over vpn...
[09:20] <CppIsWeird> could you elaborate a bit more
[09:21] <CppIsWeird> apparently i knew that was the first step.
[09:21] <ubuntu_srr> Anybody who coukd give me advice on how to open ports in ubuntu?
[09:21] <Op3r> one question whats the app name for capturing desktop video?
[09:21] <newest> ok, ive reinstalled frostwire, now how do i go about actually running it? sorry im TOTALLY new to ubuntu and linux
[09:22] <Op3r> i want to take a video for my desktop effects and put it on my weblog
[09:22] <_mdh> CppIsWeird: vpn is how you're going to securely merge your two networks
[09:22] <unop> CppIsWeird,  basically what you need is VPN-capable routers on both sites -- if configured right, the routers know about the private networks residing in the VPN -- so your computer 192.168.1.1 knows about the samba server 192.168.1.250 on the remote site
[09:22] <Flannel> Op3r: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[09:22] <_mdh> CppIsWeird: you can use openvpn or a variety of other solutions
[09:22] <newest> wtf? it says in firefox that my downloads go to desktop, but the package isnt on the desktop???
[09:23] <CppIsWeird> ok, so in stall this software on both that computer and this computer, configure it properly, and that should be all i need correct?
[09:23] <CppIsWeird> *install
[09:24] <econobeing> what is the directory it saves as? /home/[name] /Desktop? or ~/Desktop ?
[09:24] <unop> CppIsWeird,  that would make those computers VPN routers then, if thats the case, yes
[09:24] <CppIsWeird> well currently i dont have other computers to dedicate to this job, so they will each have to run as the router for now
[09:24] <econobeing> whichever it is you should try switching it, that worked for me when beryl said it was saving my screenshots to the desktop, but they didn't show up there
[09:24] <unop> CppIsWeird,  or you can have it configured in such a way that the samba server is a VPN server and you use a VPN client to connect upto it
[09:24] <_mdh> CppIsWeird: Windows can't run openvpn afaik
[09:25] <newest> it says downloads go to /home/joe/Desktop
[09:25] <newest> but nothing shows up...
[09:25] <CppIsWeird> http://openvpn.net/download.html
[09:25] <CppIsWeird> there is a windows download
[09:25] <newest> omg this frostwire installation is soo frustrating
[09:25] <unop> _mdh,  it should -- VPNs are quite standard, arent they?
[09:26] <ardchoille> newest: Do you have nautilus set to show files on the desktop?
[09:26] <_mdh> unop: I was speaking openvpn specifically, but it turns out I'm wrong anyhow
[09:26] <_mdh> unop: it used to be fun even getting openssl to compile on windows...
[09:26] <newest> sorry, i have no idea what nautilus is, im totally new to ubuntu
[09:26] <unop> CppIsWeird,  you could use a form of tunnelling using ssh that behaves quite like a VPN -- all you require then is the samba server running an ssh server too
[09:27] <ardchoille> newest: open a term and run:  nautilus ~/Desktop
[09:27] <newest> this is what i get when im trying to install frostwire with the wiki advice : dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb (--install):
[09:27] <newest>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:27] <ardchoille> newest: And see if there are any files there
[09:27] <newest> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:27] <newest>  FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[09:27] <joemauch> can anyone recommend me a good beryl/xgl guide for ati?
[09:27] <newest> it shows the files
[09:27] <newest> but why dont they show on the desktop?
[09:28] <boname> yo
[09:28] <newest> can i only see them using the terminal?
[09:28] <boname> yoyoyo
[09:28] <boname> yo
[09:28] <boname> yo
[09:28] <boname> yo
[09:28] <boname> yo
[09:28] <CppIsWeird> this is going to be a funny question im sure, but where to things "install" ? like i just installed samba and i have no idea where it is to even look for its configuration options
[09:28] <nocti> newest: it wont show on the desktop desktop. it's in your /home/newest/Desktop folder
[09:28] <ardchoille> newest: nautilus manages the desktop. If files aren't showing on the desktop, then nautilus isn't set to shwo them.
[09:28] <boname> hey ubuntu can play cs ?!?!?!?!
[09:28] <newest> how do i config nautilus?
[09:29] <nocti> boname: linux has been playing and running cs servers for eternity :D
[09:29] <boname> i mean this ubuntu can play hor ?
[09:29] <unop> CppIsWeird,  that depends on the package you install -- usually libraries go in /usr/lib/<packagename> .. configuration files in /etc/<packagenane> and binaries in /usr/bin or /usr/localbin
[09:29] <frogzoo> boname: spamming this chan will get you banned, just btw
[09:29] <CppIsWeird> ah, ok.
[09:30] <unop> CppIsWeird,  you can view what files were installed by samba using this commadn - dpkg -L samba
[09:30] <CppIsWeird> thanks.
[09:31] <nocti> newest: nautilus is just like your window$ explorer. it's a filemanager. go look for it in your Gnome menu. i cant show you cause im not running gnome.
[09:31] <seravitae> okay i just downloaded the latest kernel, 2.6.20 from kernel.org
[09:31] <frogzoo> newest: what's with installing 4.10 when 4.13 is the latest?
[09:31] <seravitae> do i need a kernel-headers for 2.6.20?
[09:31] <newest> can anyone help me with this frostwire installation, its driving me crazy this is what i get when i try the wiki page advice on installing it: joe@joe:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[09:31] <newest> dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb (--install):
[09:31] <newest>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:32] <newest> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:32] <newest>  FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[09:32] <newest> sorry, but i went to the frostwire mains site
[09:32] <newest> and dl it
[09:32] <frogzoo> newest: 4.13 is available
[09:32] <newest> so i have no idea why its giving me an old copy
[09:32] <ardchoille> !frostwire
[09:32] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:32] <frogzoo> newest: neither do I
[09:32] <unop> newest,  it looks like the file FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb does not exist in that directory
[09:32] <master5o1> Hello...how do I add mp3 extracting support to Sound Juicer CD Extractor?
[09:32] <ardchoille> newest: Have you tried looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire ?
[09:32] <spliffy> hi. after an system update with the ubuntu updater i get an error on "sudo apt-get update": couldn't get http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release unable to find expected entry unstable/source/Sources (malformed release file?). is there an error in the release file?
[09:32] <frogzoo> !restricted | master5o1
[09:32] <ubotu> master5o1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:32] <nocti> newest: that means you dont have the frostwire debfile in the same directory as the command you're running in
[09:33] <newest> i dl from www.frostwire.com, so yeah
[09:33] <master5o1> http://frostwire.com/
[09:33] <newest> oh, k ill try again
[09:33] <unop> newest,  you probably downloaded it somewhere else and not the desktop
[09:33] <nocti> newest: make sure you actually *see* the frostwire*.deb file
[09:33] <newest> i can see it now
[09:33] <nocti> newest: where is it
[09:33] <newest> i had to go to tmp folder and put it on desktop though
[09:34] <nocti> newest: then run your usual dpkg -i frostwire-blabla.deb
[09:36] <newest> omg
[09:36] <ardchoille> Flannel: PM?
[09:36] <newest> im totally lost
[09:36] <Flannel> ardchoille: sure
[09:36] <newest> how many bloody desktops are there??
[09:36] <nocti> newest: are you using nautilus or a terminal?
[09:36] <whitedea1h> Hi, if i have an old ISA sound card (Creative something) how can i find the module to load and how do i load it?
[09:36] <frogzoo> newest: exactly one ~/Desktop
[09:37] <newest> terminal
[09:37] <nocti> newest: what directory are you located
[09:37] <newest> here  /home/joe/Desktop
[09:37] <nocti> newest: cwd
[09:37] <illriginal> is there a new update for beryl-generic?
[09:37] <nocti> newest: is the frostwire.deb file in Desktop?
[09:38] <newest> yes
[09:38] <nocti> newest: ls -l *.deb
[09:38] <newest> sorry?
[09:38] <illriginal> im sorry linux-generic ?
[09:38] <nocti> newest: are you sure it's there? do an 'ls -l *.deb'
[09:38] <_mdh> illriginal: yes
[09:38] <illriginal> thank you :)
[09:39] <newest> joe@joe:~/Desktop$ ls -1*.deb
[09:39] <newest> ls: invalid option -- *
[09:39] <newest> Try `ls --help' for more information.
[09:39] <newest> joe@joe:~/Desktop$
[09:39] <nocti> newest: ls -l *.deb
[09:39] <nocti> newest: there are spaces...
[09:40] <nocti> and that's not the number 1 but the small letter 'L'
[09:40] <newest> joe@joe:~/Desktop$ ls -l *.deb
[09:40] <newest> -rw------- 1 joe joe 6892100 2007-02-10 21:15 frostwire-4.13.1.5-1.i586.deb
[09:40] <newest> joe@joe:~/Desktop$
[09:40] <Seveas> sorry for the interruption, invcestigating something
[09:48] <newest> so bascially theres no way i can install frostwire??
[09:48] <Flannel> newest: What issues are you having?  What isn't working?
[09:49] <newest> mate, ive been folowing the advice from the wiki page on frostwire
[09:49] <newest> but its njust not working
[09:49] <newest> its driving me crazy man
[09:49] <Flannel> newest: unfortunately, "not working" doesn't tell us a whole lot.
[09:49] <unimatrix9> hi there
[09:49] <unimatrix9> how do i run fsck at next boot?
[09:49] <newest> ok, ill copy a cerpt from terminal
[09:49] <Pancakes> Could someone help me in query, I'm trying to get Ubuntu (Never had Linux before).
[09:50] <newest> basically i try going to usr/lib/frostwire ..... now wheres the file i click on to get it runing??
[09:50] <newest> i found a file called runfrostwire.sh
[09:50] <newest> but nothing happens
[09:51] <Flannel> newest: you did the dpkg -i (frostwire-version).deb thing, and got no errors?
[09:51] <unimatrix9> right klick runfrostwire.sh and see if you may execute it...
[09:52] <newest> i did
[09:52] <newest> nothing happend
[09:52] <Flannel> newest: your file is in /usr/bin/frostwire, not /usr/lib/
[09:52] <newest> yeah i know
[09:52] <newest> but im trying to ty0pe so fast
[09:52] <newest> i got right path
[09:52] <newest> but no working
[09:52] <newest> hangon tick
[09:52] <newest> ill do the terminal thingy
[09:53] <Flannel> Pancakes: what are you having trouble with?
[09:53] <Pancakes> Flannel, the 'burn image' part is where I am.
[09:53] <newest> joe@joe:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.13.1.5-1.i586.deb
[09:53] <newest> dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.13.1.5-1.i586.deb (--install):
[09:54] <newest>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:54] <newest> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:54] <newest>  FrostWire-4.13.1.5-1.i586.deb
[09:54] <newest> thats what i got
[09:54] <newest> man...
[09:54] <ardchoille> newest: Where exactly is that deb?
[09:54] <newest> please dont tell me about its not on desktop, cause it is
[09:54] <newest> im looking at it right now
[09:54] <newest> its on the desktop
[09:54] <ardchoille> newest: type  pwd  and tell me what it gives you
[09:54] <avatar_> okej, i would need some assistans.. actually i need a better sources.list.. the default does not contain stuff like mplayer and so on :)
[09:54] <newest> it on the desktop in termainl, and its on the bloody desktop
[09:55] <Flannel> avatar_: mplayer is in multiverse.  you probably want to enable universe and add multiverse
[09:55] <unimatrix9> newest, just get frostwire from the internet, its easy
[09:55] <ardchoille> newest: type  sudo dpkg -i Frost<pres the tab key here>  and see what happens
[09:55] <newest> i typed pwd: /home/joe/Desktop
[09:55] <Flannel> Pancakes: alright.  So, you've downloaded the iso, and verified it's md5, and now you need to know how to burn it?
[09:55] <avatar_> flannel, how do i eneble it and what should i add?
[09:55] <unimatrix9> then go in the dir of frostwire and execute it ...
[09:55] <newest> i did
[09:55] <unimatrix9> thats all
[09:55] <Pancakes> I didn't verify the md5 yet, actually.
[09:55] <newest> nothing happens ffs
[09:55] <avatar_> flannel, have you a great sources.list for me?
[09:55] <newest> im going crazy
[09:56] <newest> why is this so bloddy hard????
[09:56] <ardchoille> newest: Are you typiing "f" or "F" ? There is a difference
[09:56] <unimatrix9> you downloaded it form the website?
[09:56] <Pancakes> I have downloaded the iso, and I do have Infra Recorder.
[09:56] <Flannel> avatar_: you edit your current one.  Uncomment the universe lines, and after "universe" add " multiverse"
[09:56] <CppIsWeird> how do i export the output of a program to a file?
[09:57] <Flannel> Pancakes: did you download as an iso? or torrent?
[09:57] <unimatrix9> http://www.frostwire.com/
[09:57] <unimatrix9> did you get it from there?
[09:57] <avatar_> flannel, ahh.. it's that simple :)
[09:57] <netsrot> Hi, I'm still having problems with some programs using the wrong soundcard because it switches between /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1, bios is broken so I can't disable the onboard sound.
[09:57] <Pancakes> The unbuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[09:57] <Pancakes> ubuntu*
[09:57] <newest> yes i know unimatrix
[09:57] <newest> i dl from the site
[09:57] <Flannel> Pancakes: alright, you'll want to verify the md5
[09:57] <unimatrix9> newest, get the tarrball
[09:57] <newest> www.frostwire.com
[09:58] <Flannel> !md5 | Pancakes
[09:58] <ubotu> Pancakes: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:58] <newest> and still progblesms
[09:58] <newest> s
[09:58] <newest> saklsjf;asljf
[09:58] <newest> ffs
[09:58] <Skuller> hey guys i m havin probs compiling an appz....can ne1 help?
[09:58] <ardchoille> newest: cd ~/Desktop && sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.13.1.5-1.i586.deb
[09:58] <ardchoille> newest: copy and paste that ^^ into your terminal
[09:58] <unimatrix9> get the tarball
[09:58] <unimatrix9> and save to disk
[09:59] <unimatrix9> extract it on your desktop or so
[09:59] <Flannel> Pancakes: then after you've verified the iso is good, you'll want to set your software to burn at 4x, and then burn that puppy
[09:59] <netsrot> anyone who knows how I choose a soundcard to be /dev/dps?
[09:59] <unimatrix9> go in the dir frostwire-4.13.1.5.noarch
[10:00] <netsrot> ops /dev/dsp I meant.
[10:00] <unimatrix9> and execute runfrostwire.sh
[10:00] <newest> im going to have a break, bbl, im pulling my hair out, this is too frustrating
[10:00] <newest> ive done everything mentoined
[10:00] <unimatrix9> that should be all that get it running
[10:00] <newest> nothing working
[10:00] <unimatrix9> i just did it, when talking to you and it works
[10:00] <newest> so did i
[10:00] <newest> and its  not
[10:00] <newest> bbl
[10:00] <unimatrix9> okey
[10:00] <ardchoille> newest: If you downloaded from the frostwire site, then the filename begins with a lowercase "f", not an uppercase "F", this makes a huge difference.
[10:00] <unimatrix9> good luck
[10:01] <Skuller> can ne1 please help me in compiling a fork of GAIM??
[10:01] <oxygen> how can i remove export command with path ?
[10:01] <oxygen> i want to remove a path ..
[10:01] <unimatrix9> can someone tell me how to run fsck on next boot?
[10:01] <oxygen> i used export command ..
[10:01] <oxygen> so i want to remove it 
[10:01] <oxygen> how can i do it ?
[10:02] <Flannel> unimatrix9: shutdown with -F
[10:02] <unimatrix9> thats shutdown -F ?
[10:02] <oxygen> help me
[10:02] <Flannel> unimatrix9: among any other options, yeah.
[10:03] <ardchoille> Flannel: Thanks, just taught me something :)
[10:03] <Flannel> unimatrix9: well, you'll need a time.
[10:03] <newest> omg, i did it, its unpacked, so yeah, now what??
[10:03] <ardchoille> I knew there was a reason i sit and watch this channel, lol
[10:03] <oxygen> !export
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about export - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <newest> wheres the frostwire file to start it??
[10:03] <oxygen> help me pls
[10:03] <Flannel> unimatrix9: shutdown -rF now will reboot, and fsck, -hF will turn off the computer after the shutdown
[10:03] <Pancakes> Flannel, I have the download on my FF downloads, how do I get that to the md5?
[10:03] <Pancakes> :$
[10:04] <unimatrix9> newest go in the unpacked dir, you find the froswire sh
[10:04] <newest> how do i actually run frostwire???
[10:04] <zcat[1] > curious; nothing about -F in the man page..
[10:04] <Flannel> Pancakes: er.. whereever you told FF to save it to, that's where itis
[10:04] <unimatrix9> execute it..
[10:04] <Flannel> zcat[1] : yes there is
[10:04] <nastjuid> er, i'm getting ready to switch to ubuntu.. would anyone have a mirror for 6.10 in north america?
[10:04] <nastjuid> i don't see one on the site
[10:04] <Flannel> zcat[1] : second to the last option, right before -c, right after -f
[10:04] <zcat[1] > I just looked at man shutdown and shutdown --help and I'm not seeing it here..
[10:05] <ardchoille> newest: You got it installed?
[10:05] <Flannel> zcat[1] : what version of ubuntu?
[10:05] <unimatrix9> can someone tell me how to run fsck on next boot?
[10:05] <newest> i found this file runFrostwire.sh, but when i double clicked it...
[10:05] <zcat[1] > edgy
[10:05] <Flannel> zcat[1] : ah, might be due to upstart, I guess.
[10:05] <newest> do i run it in terminal or just 'run'??
[10:05] <unimatrix9> run
[10:05] <newest> lol, nothings happening
[10:06] <newest> as before
[10:06] <unimatrix9> okey, open terminal
[10:06] <zcat[1] > just tried it on my other machine too.. it's rebooted and definately didn't do an fsck either!!
[10:06] <unimatrix9> you know how to?
[10:06] <Herpes> hy
[10:06] <Herpes> hey*
[10:06] <unimatrix9> can someone tell me how to run fsck on next boot?
[10:06] <newest> yes, terminal now open
[10:06] <Flannel> nastjuid: It's there.  You need to scroll down to North America, about 3/5 down the page
[10:06] <unimatrix9> leaves the question open...:P
[10:06] <unimatrix9> okey. newest now do sudo
[10:07] <newest> yep
[10:07] <Flannel> zcat[1] : What other machine?  edgy?
[10:07] <zcat[1] > Yeah, everything here runs edgy
[10:07] <unimatrix9> and drag and drop the frostwire.sh into terminal
[10:07] <Herpes> how come my 06:05.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) card dosn't work?? lspci finds it and proper drivers should be included in kernel 2.6.20
[10:07] <unimatrix9> then hit enter and see what it says
[10:07] <newest> bash: sudo/usr/lib/frostwire/runFrostwire.sh: No such file or directory
[10:08] <unimatrix9> newest but you see you are in the wrong dir
[10:08] <newest> so how do i go to the the usr dir?
[10:08] <unimatrix9> you should have been in the dir that you downloaded just as i said
[10:08] <Skuller> anyone free to help me compile GAIM?
[10:08] <zcat[1] > sudo ./runFrostwire.sh perhaps?
[10:08] <unimatrix9> that should have been on the desktop
[10:08] <newest> ive already unpacked it..
[10:08] <newest> its running ithats the problem
[10:08] <nastjuid> Flannel: heh, was my mouse wheel playing tricks on me, i kept clicking NA and it would skip to the bottom of page :/
[10:09] <unimatrix9> so you have an dir of frost on the desktop?
[10:09] <frogzoo> zcat[1] : frostwire does NOT need sudo
[10:09] <newest> unpacked/instaled, w/e
[10:09] <unimatrix9> i know, but somehting is wrong over there
[10:09] <newest> the frost dir is in /usr/lib
[10:09] <unimatrix9> newest, you dont need to install so try again
[10:09] <unimatrix9> ?
[10:09] <nastjuid> <3 2MB burstable, thanks flannel
[10:10] <unimatrix9> donwload this package http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://www.peercommons.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-4.13.1.5-1.noarch.tar.gz
[10:10] <zcat[1] > I have no idea..
[10:10] <unimatrix9> unpack it on the desktop
[10:10] <newest> ok, this si where frosty is: /usr/lib/frostwire, i just dragged that runfrostwire.sh into terminal like you said, now nothing happens, bloody error i mean
[10:10] <unimatrix9> read above tip
[10:11] <Flannel> zcat[1] , unimatrix9, on edgy: `sudo touch /forcefsck` to force a fsck next bootup, on dapper, it's the -F option for shutdown
[10:11] <newest> bloody hell! ive had this much trouble trying to install a bloody limewire clone, what the hell is it going to be like to get other applications on this???
[10:11] <b0nd> hi, can anyone direct me to a some system monitoring software that i can just do apt-get install . I would like to monitor cpu usage and hard disk space on a remote server.
[10:11] <unimatrix9> okey that sounds better thanx
[10:11] <unimatrix9> :)
[10:12] <Flannel> newest: most applications (onces supported by ubuntu) are easy.  Its only when you try to shoehorn in other crap, that you run into problems
[10:12] <zcat[1] > Flannel: Cool.. I was thinking there was some 'flag file' for it .. couldn't remember what it was called though.
[10:12] <ardchoille> Flannel: Well said :)
[10:12] <jenda> How can I add items to the main menu? Alacarte doesn't seem to work - I added the item, but it's still not there.
[10:12] <mneptok> newest: the problem is the Frostwire startup script. it assumes that the pwd is the Frostwire dir.
[10:12] <Herpes>  newest forget about limewire and use bittorrent (the protocol) or amule
[10:12] <newest> sorry, what do you mean by shoehorn?
[10:12] <Flannel> zcat[1] : alternative, /fastboot forces a skip on next boot
[10:12] <ardchoille> jenda: Sometimes you have to killall gnome-panel to get it to see new items.
[10:12] <newest> but im just after music, i find bitorrent programs to much effort for single mp3 files
[10:12] <unimatrix9> newest, would you like to try it again?
[10:13] <unimatrix9> its very easy if you do as i say...
[10:13] <jenda> ardchoille: right :) worked, thanks.
[10:13] <ardchoille> jenda: You're welcome
[10:13] <mneptok> newest: would you like to be running a Gnutella client in the next couple minutes? if so, "sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella"
[10:13] <nastjuid> can anyone point me at docs for aiglx & beryl?
[10:13] <newest> im dl the frostwire ttar.gz from link yiou gave me
[10:13] <Flannel> nastjuid: check the topic in #ubuntu-effects
[10:13] <newest> sorry, sore from typing
[10:13] <newest> typos
[10:14] <nastjuid> Flannel: thanks again :)
[10:14] <unimatrix9> or do the gnutella client as told above..
[10:14] <CppIsWeird> is there any kind of GUI application that shows me the currently running processes and their cpu usage?
[10:14] <jedi__> Hello.Say, would it really be of any consequence to the casual homer user to run kde progs on gnome??
[10:14] <mneptok> CppIsWeird: sudo aptitude install htop
[10:14] <jedi__> such as amarok?
[10:14] <Flannel> jedi__: not really.  the only thing is you'll need to install the KDE libs (and then have them in memory while running)
[10:14] <frogzoo> CppIsWeird: add a system monitor to your taskbar - double click to view processes
[10:15] <newest> ok, so im dl this other frost wire thing from link that unimatrix gave me, so how do i get rid of the frostwire currnetly on my pc?
[10:15] <Flannel> jedi__: well, "have to install" means, have to let the package managers install for you, of course.
[10:15] <beginner> how do I get gtk2-ansi-release-2.8
[10:15] <beginner> it seems that my wxpython is unicode
[10:15] <CppIsWeird> and how do i go about doing that?
[10:15] <beginner> instead of ansi
[10:15] <MarcelS649> hey guys, I tried to connect my Nokia 6280 with Kubuntu 6.10 and to use GPRS Easy Connect to get an Internet Connection. Earlyer I installed usb-rndis-lite to connect my O2 Xda Neo. However; it doesn't work. Coul I post the output of dmesg?
[10:15] <Determinist> newest, depends how you installed it
[10:15] <unimatrix9> newest later worrie
[10:15] <jedi__> Flannel thanks a lot
[10:16] <newest> wow, so much trouble
[10:16] <jahid> hi, how can i copy a folder with all its sub folder and files?
[10:16] <newest> i just want a godam program so i can dl musci
[10:16] <unimatrix9> will sudo touch /forcefsck do this just once ?
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> nvm i figured it out
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> thx
[10:16] <unimatrix9> or will it do that every boot?
[10:16] <Determinist> MarcelS649, have you tried synce+multisync for the xda neo?
[10:16] <Skuller> is there any way to get GLIB without actually compiling it urself?
[10:16] <Flannel> unimatrix9: just once.  it'll get removed automatically
[10:16] <mneptok> newest: i just told you what to do
[10:16] <zcat[1] > newest: just go ahead and install amule.. it works.
[10:17] <mneptok> newest: would you like to be running a Gnutella client in the next couple minutes? if so, "sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella"
[10:17] <mneptok> ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
[10:17] <newest> i did that mneptok
[10:17] <newest> its dl now
[10:17] <newest> oh hangon soz
[10:17] <unimatrix9> okey so can someone else tutor newest, if he has got the frostwire file, just unpack it an go in the dir to execute frostwire.sh
[10:17] <newest> no im dl that link from unimatrix
[10:17] <newest> godamit, brb, sort this out
[10:18] <MarcelS649> yes but I dont know jhow to use it. dmesg said that a new device is /dev/ttyACM0 on my Nokia 6280 and ith my Neo it doesn't give me any device node...... And I dont know how to use SyncCE
[10:18] <unimatrix9> i have to force check my root system, be bakc a bit later
[10:18] <Determinist> dude, lose the curse words, they reflect badly on you.
[10:18] <Skuller> is anyone free to tutor me in getting a fork of GAIM installed here please?
[10:18] <newest> ok, just done sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella, now what?
[10:18] <unimatrix9> be back later!
[10:18] <Determinist> MarcelS649, google for synce tutorial, there's loads of information on how to sync a pda with linux for various actions
[10:18] <mneptok> newest: look in the "Internet" menu
[10:19] <newest> nothing
[10:19] <Determinist> MarcelS649, once you've read some of the information, feel free to PM me if you encounter any problems.
[10:19] <mneptok> newest: there should be an entry for gtk-gnutella
[10:20] <MarcelS649> thks.
[10:20] <newest> i only see that deadend firewire entry
[10:20] <newest> frostwire or w/e
[10:20] <mneptok> newest: then open a terminal and just type "gtk-gnutella" (no quotes)
[10:21] <mneptok> newest: it may appear in the menu the next time you log in
[10:21] <newest> k thanks,
[10:21] <maltz> sup
[10:21] <newest> just one thing, how do i actually uninstall this frostwire?
[10:21] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[10:21] <newest> i cant even send it to rubbish bin
[10:22] <jedi__> newest: synaptic packet manager
[10:22] <mneptok> newest: you can delete the menu entry
[10:22] <newest> it dont work
[10:22] <newest> omfg, its taking me all day, seriously all day, to do this
[10:22] <newest> just to get this stupid frostwire to work
[10:22] <newest> now it doesnt
[10:22] <newest> now i cant even uninstall it
[10:22] <mackinac> but still, this is easier than windows
[10:23] <oim> bonjour tout le monde
[10:23] <Flannel> !fr
[10:23] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:23] <amorphous_> is there any way I can make a user login without password? I'm ok at boot, but want to remove the password screen when switching users
[10:23] <jedi__> newest: had a look on the ubuntu guide?
[10:23] <mneptok> newest: please watch your language. and yes, installing an entire Java runtime environment, and installing apps with known broken launcher scripts is not trivial.
[10:23] <beginner> where can  I  get  wx-2.8-gtk2-ansi
[10:23] <Determinist> amorphous_, auto login, but it's really not a recommended thing.
[10:23] <beginner> for ubuntu?
[10:24] <Determinist> amorphous_, it's in the admininstration section someplace... should be easy to locate.
[10:25] <unimatrix9> newest, it did not do the trick?
[10:25] <newest> sorry for cursing, just so stressed out, coffee break
[10:25] <newest> brb
[10:25] <unimatrix9> newest, what version are you running?
[10:25] <martibs> is there a 64-bit Ubuntu for Intel processors?
[10:25] <amorphous_> Determinist, thanks  - i'll check it out.
[10:25] <Determinist> np
[10:25] <zcat[1] > ubuntu is easy if you don't treat it like windows. never try to download stuff off webpages. Use the existing package tools.
[10:26] <ardchoille> zcat[1] : I agree
[10:26] <mneptok> martibs: what flovol of 64 bit Intel?
[10:26] <mneptok> *flavor
[10:26] <unimatrix9> yeah, thats true zcat, but in this case i let him download an platform independend package known to work
[10:26] <martibs> Core 2 Duo
[10:26] <mneptok> unimatrix9: Frostwire does not work unless you edit the shell script
[10:26] <unimatrix9> it works on both dapper as on edgy and even feisty
[10:27] <ardchoille> unimatrix9: Yes, but what about all the other stuff he has downloaded and installed but couldn't figure out. Could it be that his system is pretty polluted now?
[10:27] <mneptok> martibs: Core 2 Duo is x86-64/AMD64
[10:27] <unimatrix9> hmm, so you say its works on my side , but i am not telling the truth?
[10:27] <zcat[1] > unimatrix9: judging by the language, it sounds like it worked out about as well as I'd have expected too...
[10:27] <martibs> mneptok: ok, thx
[10:28] <mneptok> unimatrix9: i'm saying that the runFrost.sh shell script assumes bash and pwd
[10:28] <ardchoille> unimatrix9: No, not at all. I am thinking that his sytem is full of stuff that he can't understand.
[10:28] <unimatrix9> hm, then he needs an new install ...thats not so nice for him, at least we tried to help..
[10:28] <Determinist> mneptok, are you sure? last i checked core 2 duo processors are not compatible with AMD's 64bit arch... unless EM64T is there, and that's not always the case.
[10:28] <amorphous_> Determinist - I got autologin already - but it asks for a password when Iswitch users - that's what I'm after sorting out. I have an 'anyone can use' account - it's locked down a lot - but i want to be able to switch from other accounts, to it, without password.
[10:28] <unimatrix9> you know forstwire even works on the live cd of ubuntu...LOL
[10:29] <ardchoille> unimatrix9: He's trying, yes, but I believe it's a good thing to learn how the system works before one goes about installing things off the net.
[10:29] <mneptok> Determinist: i have yet to find a C2D that can't run the AWD64 version
[10:29] <Determinist> mneptok, k
[10:29] <unimatrix9> with the same method i described..
[10:29] <unimatrix9> a well, thats life'
[10:29] <Determinist> amorphous_, not sure then mate, what's wrong with su? :)
[10:30] <unimatrix9> by the way, ano one playing second life, it works nice over here..
[10:30] <unimatrix9> ano=any
[10:30] <zcat[1] > unimatrix9: yeah, played with that. Works quite well.
[10:31] <unimatrix9> did you visit ibm?
[10:31] <jenda> I need to conduct a poll: who uses a firewall with ubuntu?
[10:31] <unimatrix9> seems to be really great...
[10:31] <zcat[1] > ibm?
[10:31] <ardchoille> jenda: I don't.. but there's one in my router.
[10:31] <unimatrix9> yeah its also on second life , just as dell computers
[10:32] <ahave> hello room
[10:32] <ardchoille> s/room/channel/
[10:32] <ahave> would samba be the easiest/best way to setup file/printer sharing with a XP box?
[10:32] <Determinist> jenda, same, the firewall is in my router, no firewall on ubuntu machine
[10:33] <zcat[1] > ahave: just right-click the folder and select file sharing, it will go ahead and insta;; samba and configure it for you I think....
[10:33] <unimatrix9> i have an hardware firewall ..
[10:33] <amorphous_> Determinist, it's an X session - and so are the others. I'm trying to set up cafe's so they can play music with basic account & do paperwork with manager account. lots of switching back and forth so in order to sell it to staff  want them to be able to drop to basic 'music' account with minimal fuss - hence removing passwd on music account
[10:33] <ahave> but will i be able to see my XP machine?
[10:33] <jenda> Determinist: me too
[10:34] <ahave> i am more interested in seeing the XP box than it seeing me..
[10:34] <jenda> so other way around - should a firewall be used when one doesn't have a router/hw firewall?
[10:34] <unimatrix9> ahave, i even see the xp machines in across the street, with my ubuntu boxes...LOL
[10:34] <zcat[1] > ahave: there's places/network servers for that ..
[10:34] <unimatrix9> wireless that is afcause...
[10:34] <Pancakes> Flannel, I downloaded IsoBuster, to open it. How do I run the md5 now? :$
[10:34] <Determinist> amorphous_, i'm not quite sure how such a setup is to be achieved. sorry.
[10:34] <yopad> how do you make the start up text smaller
[10:34] <ardchoille> jenda: With Ubuntu, there isn't anything open by default. If my router didn't have a firewall, I wouldn't install one on my Ubuntu boxes.
[10:34] <ahave> zcat[1] > what do you mean?
[10:35] <zcat[1] > I think you can see smb shares without installing samba
[10:35] <yopad> right before it logs in....you see it in black and white text
[10:35] <yopad> it says grubs
[10:35] <amorphous_> Determinist, I cant find a way either.... :(
[10:35] <jenda> ardchoille: good... I'm trying to convince someone.
[10:35] <zcat[1] > Go to the main menu, Places, Network Servers .. It's like XP's network places thingy...whatever it's called
[10:35] <ardchoille> jenda: However, I run tests on all my systems on a daily basis. I use rkhunter, chkrootkit, tripwire and snort.
[10:36] <yopad> if i hit alt-f#
[10:36] <amorphous_> Determinist, they dont like passwords...:(
[10:36] <yopad> how do i make those text smaller
[10:36] <ardchoille> Yes, yes, I have been called a "security zealot" in the past, lol
[10:36] <yopad> what do you call that
[10:36] <ahave> i see my Windows Network, but i see nothing within it
[10:36] <yopad> console
[10:36] <yopad> ?
[10:36] <Determinist> amorphous_, you want users to be able to switch to a different account from the one they are currently logged in with without being referred to the login page and being prompted for a password, am i correct?
[10:37] <yopad> i just want to resize the text
[10:37] <yopad> its too big
[10:39] <yopad> HI
[10:39] <yopad> anyone still here to help :)
[10:39] <ardchoille> yopad: What's your issue?
[10:40] <yopad> alright...say i hit alt-f2 right
[10:40] <yopad> i want to resize the text in there
[10:40] <zcat[1] > yopad: edit > Current profile  - text size is in ther somewhere
[10:40] <yopad> its way to big
[10:40] <ardchoille> yopad: I believe that would involve changing font sizes.
[10:41] <amorphous_> Determinist, yes - you are correct (although only one way would be preferable (when switching down accounts)
[10:42] <Determinist> amorphous_, i'm trying to investigate... give me a few mins.
[10:42] <jedi__> could someone please tell me where to find firefox in  the directory tree?
[10:43] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> is it regular for kernel images in upadtes to be 23 kbs ?
[10:43] <amorphous_> Determinist, wicked - thank you :)
[10:44] <zcat[1] > GreyGhost-Ubuntu: about that... There's three kernel packages in my apt cache and they're all about 24K
[10:44] <ardchoille> s/cop/cup/
[10:45] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> zcat[1]  ,ok ...i just wanted to confirm ... i dont want the kernel messed up ..
[10:45] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> thanks
[10:45] <zcat[1] > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24K 2007-02-08 23:03 /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-686_2.6.17.11_i386.deb
[10:45] <Determinist> amorphous_, read up... that's what i'm doing ;)   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_User_Switching
[10:46] <plusminus> security.ubuntu.com seems down?
[10:46] <amorphous_> Determinist, am trying. checking that link now. thanks ;)
[10:47] <ardchoille> plusminus: pings here
[10:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> After todays linux-update XGL doesnt work anymore! fglrxinfo says: http://pastebin.se/8541
[10:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> I think its an easy thing to fix... but I cant figure it out! Help really appreciated!
[10:47] <plusminus> it pings yes but no http/ftp
[10:48] <ardchoille> plusminus: You're right
[10:48] <kuw88> how can i get the real player for ubuntu
[10:48] <kuw88> ?
[10:48] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> kuw88 ,u dont u get the codecs
[10:48] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !codecs | kuw88
[10:48] <ubotu> kuw88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:48] <ardchoille> plusminus: It opened.. just slow
[10:48] <plusminus> ok thx
[10:48] <kuw88> thank you
[10:49] <oim> #ubuntu-fr
[10:49] <andriusc> hello all
[10:49] <ardchoille> hi
[10:49] <matsavhalev> is it possible to extract the ubuntu iso to a small hdd partition and install somehow from there? my cdrom drive is dead....
[10:49] <andriusc> is there still a problem with locales in edgy?
[10:51] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> kuw88 ,though if u decide that due to some reason u do need the real player... here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29
[10:51] <webben> um ... why the heck does installing the spidermonkey library remove evolution galeon epiphany etc?
[10:55] <KenSentMe> I just upgraded the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel to 2.6.17-11. But since then my X wont start because the nvidia kernel module can't be loaded. Is this a known problem or should i file a bug?
[10:55] <elias_> what is the default interupt timer frequenzy in edgy?
[10:55] <elias_> how can I set it to a different value?
[10:59] <jahid> can anyone tell me where should i put my fonts to active my firefox to show my native pages?
[10:59] <Skuller> ok....please....anyone...help me up and running with GLIB so i can install GAIM on my system.....i m crying out here since las few hours
[10:59] <jenda> Test your Ubuntu l33tness at the weekly Ubuntu QUIZ! Be sure to join #ubuntu-trivia at 14:00 UTC tonite. This weeks prize: Ubuntu DVD edition Donated by: juliux
[10:59] <ardchoille> jenda: That's cool :)
[11:00] <KenSentMe> Skuller: what is the problem?
[11:00] <jenda> ardchoille: :)
[11:00] <jenda> The topic is IRC today ;)
[11:00] <ardchoille> Skuller: KenSentMe I thought gaim installed by default with Ubuntu
[11:00] <Skuller> kensentme: finally......sum1....ok.....i just need to install glib so i can continue compilation of a fork of GAIM
[11:01] <ardchoille> Ah, ok.. a fork of gaim. Got it :)
[11:01] <Skuller> ardchoille: it is....i need to install a fork wich supports voice
[11:01] <ardchoille> Skuller: Ok :)
[11:01] <KenSentMe> Skuller: did you install build-essential?
[11:01] <Skuller> kensentme:, yes
[11:01] <Skuller> kensentme: i reach the part where i get this
[11:02] <Skuller> kensentme: Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[11:02] <Skuller> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[11:02] <Skuller> *** exact error that occurred. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.configure: error:
[11:02] <Skuller> *** GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GLib
[11:02] <Skuller> *** development headers installed. The latest version of GLib is
[11:02] <Skuller> *** always available at http://www.gtk.org/.
[11:02] <ompaul> Skuller, the use of pastebin for what you just did is the way forward - paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:02] <ompaul> with your browser
[11:02] <ompaul> :)
[11:03] <Skuller> ompaul, oh ...sori...dint noe anything about it
[11:03] <KenSentMe> Skuller: did you install libglib2.0-dev?
[11:03] <Skuller> kensentme: dont think so.....dont noe wat that is
[11:03] <KenSentMe> Skuller: install that package
[11:03] <ardchoille> Skuller: dev files for glib2
[11:03] <Skuller> kensentme: how do i do that?
[11:03] <Kristov> hi
[11:03] <ardchoille> hi Kristov
[11:04] <CppIsWeird> i tried to install a package, and it had unmet dependencies, and they keep comming up each time i try to install another package, how do i get those to go away?
[11:04] <KenSentMe> Skuller: why are you trying to compile things if you don't even know how to install a package?
[11:05] <KenSentMe> Skuller: open Synaptic and search for the package. Then install it. But first you might look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/add-applications.html
[11:05] <yopad> how do you change the console text size...
[11:06] <yopad> haha
[11:06] <yopad> i keep on asking the same question...
[11:06] <crov> Hi, i am having problem with Booting up Ubunut/Kubuntu, Ati Radeon X850 Pro (R480) same image for both Ubunut/Kubuntu http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260sq3.jpg
[11:06] <yopad> say i hit control plus alt plus f2....i get into that mean console
[11:06] <yopad> *main
[11:07] <Skuller> kensentme: bcoz, i am 17, i have an online GF, we used to voice chat on MSN mess in windows, I started using ubun dapper since las 2 daiz, i want to voice chat with her on msn, so i want a client that i can use for voice chatting without her installing anything extra...so i want voice chatting functionality with MSN on ubun....i herd a fork for GAIM is the way to go...but it needs compilation...so i jumped rite into it....n
[11:07] <Skuller> i appreciate all help given by all u ppl...
[11:08] <jenda> correction, the prize was donated by mc44 - my apologies.
[11:08] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> yopad ,right click .--> edit current profile --> use system terminal fonts ( uncheck this..) and then modify font size and stuffu ...
[11:08] <Zan> Hi again. I have 2 soundcards, where should I add "index=0" for the first card, so that they keep the correct order even if the other card's driver gets loaded first?
[11:09] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Skuller , try "apt-get install glic2" or something similar
[11:09] <KenSentMe> Skuller: read the webpage i gave you and try installing aMSN. I think it has voice chat support. On the webpage i gave you, you can find information on how to install packages (like aMSN).
[11:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> *libglib2.0-0
[11:10] <Zan> in gentoo it would be modules.d, but ubuntu does not have that (i'm reading gentoo-wiki)
[11:11] <KenSentMe> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: maybe it's better if he learns to install packages, before he tries to compile things
[11:11] <Alarm> hello. how can i change my swappiness value ?
[11:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> KenSentMe ,yeah i understand... but i corrected my misatake ... ;)
[11:11] <geokok> HELP!! i just run some kernel updates and lost X! How can I get X back? I had proprietary nvidia drivers installed
[11:11] <effie_jayx> can anyone help with a US bluetooth dongle
[11:11] <dmitri_> hy who can help me to install xgl on my intel 900 graphic card?
[11:12] <yopad> thanks grey
[11:12] <Pancakes> I'm just about to intall ubunto, I just made the CD.
[11:12] <Pancakes> Anything I'll need to know?
[11:12] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !xgl | dmitri_
[11:12] <ubotu> dmitri_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:12] <yopad> how about the resolution in the true terminal...can i change that
[11:12] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> yopad ,np
[11:12] <crov> Hi, i am having problem with Booting up Ubunut/Kubuntu, Ati Radeon X850 Pro (R480) same image for both Ubunut/Kubuntu http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260sq3.jpg
[11:12] <KenSentMe> geokok: i have the same problem. I'm filing a bug now. You might want to reboot and choose the -10 kernel from grub menu
[11:12] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> yopad , no idea ... :(
[11:12] <Pancakes> I want to partition so I have windows and ubunta.
[11:13] <foutrelis> geokok: What error does X give you?
[11:13] <geokok> KenSentMe wasn't there a command that woud restore X?
[11:13] <geokok> foutrelis I got a BSOD and then all I get is text mode
[11:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Pancakes , do u have extra partitions for Ubuntu if ur running Windows ?
[11:14] <Pancakes> I've never done a partition before.
[11:14] <geokok> foutrelis I restarted Ubuntu logo was on but then only text again
[11:14] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !install | Pancakes
[11:14] <ubotu> Pancakes: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:14] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Pancakes ,go thorugh the docs once... if not done properl ..u may loose ur Windows ..
[11:14] <effie_jayx> it is a targus USB bluetooth dongle. it won connect with the phone I have... or with anything at all
[11:14] <Skuller> kensentme: i already installed aMSN wen i installed sum appz yesterday.....i am using it rite now and it only has webcam support and not voice...any other appz u know that has MSN voice support?
[11:14] <Pancakes> I will, and is there anything I really need to know?
[11:14] <geokok> Is there a command to restore X with?
[11:14] <foutrelis> geokok: Yes I undestand. X cannot start since the drivers (nvidia) don't exist for your current kernel.
[11:15] <effie_jayx> I have tried checking hcitool and aparently it is up and Running
[11:15] <geokok> foutrelis I am sick and tired of X failing
[11:15] <foutrelis> geokok: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server I think :)
[11:15] <effie_jayx> but it won't inquiry or scan for a new bluetooth device
[11:15] <foutrelis> Maybe the someone who knows better can help? :P
[11:15] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> effie_jayx , http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_use_Bluetooth_to_share_files (havent ever tried it myself ..)
[11:16] <oclet> sup
[11:16] <crov> Can pls anybody help me with my problem i posted above???
[11:16] <effie_jayx> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, I'll give it a read :D
[11:16] <___james> how to install mplayer on firefox? i can't play any videos
[11:16] <KenSentMe> geokok: there might, but there is a problem with the nvidia kernel module. You might want to fall back to the older
[11:17] <KenSentMe> geokok: there might, but there is a problem with the nvidia kernel module. You might want to fall back to the older -10 kernel
[11:17] <KenSentMe> Skuller: i'm searching
[11:17] <___james> anyone?
[11:17] <geokok> KentSentMe I ll try the reconfigure command first and let u know how it goes
[11:17] <oclet> whats ur problem dude
[11:17] <Skuller> kensentme: thank you very much
[11:17] <oclet> u need to vi /etc/motd
[11:18] <oclet> and make it hyphy
[11:18] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> crov , first try disabling the splash if that doesnt work ....try booting into recovery console and installing the drivers?
[11:18] <___james> how to install mplayer on firefox? i can't play any videos
[11:18] <oclet> dildos
[11:19] <geokok> KenSentMe foutrelis it did NOT work. Tell me what to do with grub please
[11:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> effie_jayx , more detailed notes ..
[11:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !bluetooth | effie_jayx
[11:19] <ubotu> effie_jayx: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:19] <jahid> hi, if i write "fonts:///" then it opens a font folder, how can i know the physical location of that folder?
[11:19] <oclet> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: ive got field noted
[11:19] <oclet_> beerz
[11:20] <oclet_> ur all a bunch of douchez
[11:20] <crov> GreyGhost-Ubuntu well i try disabling "dri" and "glx" as suggested hier https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9284 but not helps
[11:20] <KenSentMe> geokok: restart your system and in the grub menu, choose the 2.6.17-10 kernel instead of the latest 2.6.17-11
[11:20] <effie_jayx> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, I have installed the packages,.. In fact I had borrowed a us bluetooth dongles the last week and it work ok here
[11:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> oclet ,err...
[11:20] <effie_jayx> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, now off goes my wife and buys me one... and it doesn't send or recieve anything...
[11:20] <geokok> KenSentMe its OK! should I do anything else now that I am back to X?
[11:21] <___james> how to make the vlc player make the default video player on fierfox?
[11:21] <effie_jayx> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, believe me when I say the packages I need are there
[11:21] <KenSentMe> geokok: you can use synaptic to switch back to the older version of the kernel
[11:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> effie_jayx ,hmmm... as i said i've never tried it myself :( ... stick here and ask later when someone experienced comes in ?
[11:21] <KenSentMe> geokok: so to uninstall the latest until the problem is fixed
[11:22] <effie_jayx> GreyGhost-Ubuntu,  :D thanks
[11:22] <geokok> KentSentMe ok thanks a lot mate! I hope they fix this cause Kernel updates have become a menace for ubuntu
[11:22] <jahid> can anyone tell me which font folder firefox is using?
[11:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  ___james , http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28VLC.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox and one below i ..
[11:23] <greygoo> jahid, problem using the fonts?
[11:23] <Ace2016> The Mplayer plugin is better for firefox isn' it?
[11:24] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> crov , ur running the livecd?
[11:24] <jahid> greygoo,  i want to copy a font for firefox, but i am not finding where to copy
[11:24] <Ace2016> mplayer feels light and agile but vlc feels slow
[11:24] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Ace2016 ,havent ever tried it ...so no idea..
[11:25] <Ace2016> haven't tried mplayer? or vlc?
[11:25] <jahid> greygoo, can you tell me where to put the font so that firefox can show native pages of my native language?
[11:25] <greygoo> jahid. oh hm... have to have a look. I use some changed config using the fonts in ff, due to strange rendering
[11:25] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Ace2016 ,both ... have been using Linux only for a week now ;)
[11:25] <Lanlost> Someone here told me about a gui program that will let you see wireless broadcasting networks?
[11:25] <Lanlost> as opposed to iwlist <device> scanning
[11:26] <jahid> greygoo, can you please help me, this problem is eating my life. i need to solve this problem
[11:26] <Lanlost> I don't know why, I used to be able to pick up so many networks
[11:26] <Ace2016> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: well install mplayer it plays everything, and install the w32codes
[11:26] <crov> GreyGhost-Ubuntu I try live cd, alternativ cd, then kubunut-i386-dvd.iso but cant boot to it... :( only text mode install but then again same screen on boot
[11:26] <Lanlost> I'm running internet connection sharing from my laptop which picks up at least 10 different wireless networks and is right next to my desktop
[11:26] <greygoo> jahid, i change character encoding (german) in the ff menu. (UTF8)
[11:26] <Lanlost> I'm running ICS to a router so that everywhere else in the house I can pick up the signal
[11:27] <rausb0> !kernelsource
[11:27] <milosz> witam
[11:27] <Lanlost> using windows as a wireless access point basically.. but its annoying.. a day ago I could connect to all kinds of servers
[11:27] <jahid> greygoo, my language is not on ff menu. so i have to install a font to let firefox to show my languages
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernelsource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <rausb0> !modules
[11:27] <Amon-san> is security.ubuntu.com down?
[11:27] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[11:27] <milosz> szczecin??
[11:28] <rausb0> !kernel
[11:28] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:28] <greygoo> hm dont know for sure, but wait a sec.
[11:28] <GreyGhost> got disconnected...
[11:31] <zzz_> :)
[11:31] <GreyGhost> did anyone say anything to me while i got disconnected?
[11:31] <GreyGhost> no? good ;)
[11:32] <greygoo> jahid, i changed my fonts (using windows fonts) systemwide. would that help ?
[11:32] <greygoo> jahid, im using arial and others...
[11:33] <jahid> greygoo, tel me so that i can try
[11:33] <greygoo> jahid, have a look at www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t208396
[11:33] <greygoo> oops
[11:34] <jahid> i think that is not true URL :)
[11:34] <jahid> greygoo, the link is not valid
[11:34] <greygoo> jahid, sorry: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208396&highlight=like+on+windows
[11:34] <jahid> its ok
[11:35] <milosz> polska
[11:35] <milosz> biao-czerwoni
[11:35] <GreyGhost> milosz ,err ...english ?
[11:36] <milosz> polish
[11:36] <milosz> polnisch
[11:36] <milosz> polska
[11:36] <milosz> poland
[11:36] <GreyGhost> ok
[11:37] <ompaul> !pl
[11:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:38] <Decadent> Is there anyway I can minimise evolution to tray??
[11:40] <Jasonwoo1> god ,  941 persons
[11:40] <yeniklasor> hello
[11:40] <mandrill> I've never seen it below 900
[11:41] <yeniklasor> apt-get install x-window-system-dev   says me Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev
[11:41] <yeniklasor> how can I install it
[11:41] <mandrill> anyone know anything about sharing folders with a windows machine?
[11:41] <mandrill> It was working fine last night
[11:42] <zzz_> mandrill: If you set up your Windows machine to share folders, then you should be able to access those folders using Konqueror's samba features.
[11:42] <koebi57> #Ubuntu-fr
[11:42] <Freddy2> hi
[11:42] <koebi57> hi
[11:42] <jpc> Hi.
[11:43] <mandrill> other way around. I want to get at folders on my ubuntu machine from my windows machine. I'm a linux n00b
[11:43] <mandrill> whats Konqueror?
[11:43] <zzz_> mandrill: To be able to do that, you need to install samba and then configure it to share the folders you want to share.
[11:43] <mandrill> done.
[11:43] <Freddy2> i'm trying to install tomcat on edgy, but after having downloaded several packages it tries to launch and after stop the servlet engine, and freezes when going to stop it.. any problem about stoppind this task? what could happen?
[11:43] <mackinac> yeniklasor, you have to add a repository that has that package to your sources
[11:44] <mandrill> as I said it was working last night. I turn the machines on this morning and it now doesn't work
[11:44] <zzz_> mandrill: Konqueror is a web/file browser with a lot features. It comes installed by default on Kubuntu. (Not ubuntu.)
[11:45] <greygoo> jahid, still there ?
[11:45] <zzz_> mandrill: Are you sure that samba is configured properly?
[11:45] <jahid> greygoo, yes, but i dont think it will work.
[11:46] <greygoo> ok, there will be needed a special file, the link in the thread doesnt work.
[11:46] <greygoo> but heres another source http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1963657
[11:46] <greygoo> hm. ok was worth a try
[11:47] <mandrill> zzz_: it should be. I haven't changed anything since yesterday when it worked
[11:47] <jahid> graygoo, yes, thanks a lot
[11:47] <greygoo> jahid, cya...
[11:48] <greygoo> anyone here heaving tried latest radeon drivers ?
[11:48] <jahid> greygoo, cy
[11:48] <kestaz_> how to make on beryl transparent windows ?
[11:48] <zzz_> mandrill: Try running smbtree.
[11:48] <GreyGhost> !beryl | kestaz_
[11:48] <ubotu> kestaz_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:48] <mettao87> ciao
[11:49] <afd_> hi guys! I'm running k3b and many other kde application under ubuntu edgy and I'm wondering if there is any setting I can do to enable a better integration between the kde apps and gnome
[11:49] <mettao87> come mai nella cartella home non vedo tutti i file e le directory presenti?
[11:49] <afd_> he problem is that they keep flashing in the taskbar, for example
[11:50] <zzz_> !samba
[11:50] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:50] <GreyGhost> !it | mettao87
[11:50] <ubotu> mettao87: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:50] <GreyGhost> mettao87 ,it'll be muchaeasier to understand there ;
[11:51] <mettao87> yes
[11:51] <yeniklasor> apt-get install x-window-system-dev   says me Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev
[11:51] <mettao87> thanks
[11:51] <mandrill> zzz_: my two machines are there. The two folders on my ubuntu machine which I want shared are there as are the folders on my windows machine.
[11:51] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,u sure thats the package name ?
[11:52] <yeniklasor> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/x-window-system-dev
[11:52] <mattycoze> what's a good linux game, multiplayer to windows, free and not too graphics intensive?
[11:52] <mattycoze> and runs on ubuntu?
[11:52] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,and ur running hoary?
[11:53] <greygoo> mattycoze Enemy Territory (love it)
[11:53] <yeniklasor> what
[11:53] <zzz_> mandrill: Do you mean that you can see your shares with smbtree?
[11:53] <mandrill> zzz_: yes
[11:53] <KenSentMe> Skuller: have you found something yet?
[11:53] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,what version of Ubuntu are u using?
[11:53] <Alarm> hello. i did just installed swap. and loged in the web interface, but all i can see is just the manuals and nothing more. is that normal ?
[11:53] <yeniklasor> latest
[11:54] <zzz_> mandrill: Then you should be able to access your Ubuntu shares using //ipaddressofubuntubox/sharename
[11:54] <Skuller> kensentme: i m sick of tryin to install GLIB so i can continue compiling fork of GAIM....but just cant
[11:54] <yeniklasor> 6.10
[11:54] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,tahts the problem .. that package is for an older version and not Edgy... u'll have to find an equivalent to it ..
[11:54] <Skuller> kensentme: i guess linux just isnt meant for young users like me
[11:54] <zzz_> mandrill: Sorry, it should be \\ipaddressofubuntubox\sharename
[11:54] <KenSentMe> Skuller: maybe the best option is try to install and use skype
[11:54] <mackinac> yeniklasor, hoary is not the correct repo
[11:54] <mattycoze> greygoo that's preety cool
[11:54] <jpc> greygoo, how can i get Enemy Territory?
[11:54] <mackinac> yeniklasor, you want edgy
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, I have a broadband connection through an ethernet router is it possible to see what my download/upload speed is???
[11:55] <KenSentMe> Skuller: it is, but there is no voice chat option yet in an msn client. Try Skype. It works fine here
[11:55] <daviey> jpc,  goggle it - it's easy
[11:55] <greygoo> just search on the net, there are several free locations
[11:55] <GreyGhost> Skuller , i'm 16 ..u need to be determined enough..
[11:55] <none71> Paddy_EIRE:  Goto a speedtest page on the web
[11:55] <yeniklasor> what is edgy
[11:55] <Skuller> greyghost: wow man.....awesome....
[11:55] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,Edgy is 6.1
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> none71: any you recommend
[11:56] <GreyGhost> *6.10
[11:56] <none71> http://www.speedtest.net/
[11:56] <Skuller> kensentme: ok...i'll ask her to download it as well then...hope she does
[11:56] <mattycoze> greygoo, know any strategy games similar to AOE?
[11:56] <GreyGhost> Skuller ,though i'm not an expert..i'm learning... be determined .. and u'll laern as u go ;
[11:56] <GreyGhost> ;)
[11:56] <zzz_> yeniklasor: Edgy Eft is the code name of 6.10
[11:56] <mandrill> zzz_: thats bizzare. my win machine is seeing my ubuntu machine in mshome but won't let me access it. If I add the shares as network places in windows i can see them fine.
[11:56] <Skuller> greyghost: yea man i like ur determination.....not like mine who just wants to switch to my xp OS rite now
[11:57] <jpc> Is there a Linux version of Enemy Territory or need to use Wine to play it?
[11:57] <greygoo> mattycoze No, but i guess there should be games of that sort...
[11:57] <greygoo> played aoe only on windows
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> jpc: yeah there is
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> jpc: it does not need wine
[11:57] <GreyGhost> Skuller ,i have XP dual boot too.. when i get frustrated.. ;) ..jhust dont forget to come back to Ubuntu afterwards ...
[11:57] <zzz_> mandrill: What about login/password information? Are you sure that those are correct?
[11:58] <jahid> is it possible to mount ntfs drive from linux?
[11:58] <GreyGhost> !mount | jahid
[11:58] <ubotu> jahid: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:58] <yeniklasor> now I can't install CEDEGA :(
[11:58] <mattycoze> greygoo okay, lol thanks anyway, i haven't got a 3d accellerator card that's all
[11:58] <ompaul> !fuse | jahid
[11:58] <ubotu> jahid: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:58] <Skuller> greyghost: i guess ur right man....need to go bak fer a break....ave bin in here fer pas 2 daiz tryin to get things done....n this was my first time linux usage ever yesterday
[11:58] <Paddy_EIRE> greygoo: Skuller: the solution is to remove xp as to force yourself to learn linux
[11:58] <yommb> How can I copy/paste  a line of text in a terminal ( no X ) ?
[11:58] <yeniklasor> CEDEGA wants  x-window-system-dev
[11:59] <greygoo> mattycoze, ok i see :-(
[11:59] <ompaul> jahid, there is a big difference between reading and writing
[11:59] <GreyGhost> Paddy_EIRE ,that can hurt ...when Ubuntu stops booting as it did for me two daysago ..
[11:59] <Zenith2007> Hi folks, when using GnomeBaker to burn a .cue file I get the following error: cdrdao was compiled without MP3 support.  Could anyone help me add mp3 support please?
[11:59] <Paddy_EIRE> GreyGhost: exactly
[11:59] <daviey> jpc, there is a linux version, check the ubuntu clan for instructions
[11:59] <Paddy_EIRE> GreyGhost: force yourself
[12:00] <GreyGhost> addy_EIRE ,i boted into XP ... poped in here... and got my problem solved.. ;)
[12:00] <yommb> Zenith , do a search on that in synaptic ( cdrdao + mp3 )
[12:00] <mandrill> zzz_: I wasn't getting anywhere with that yesterday. I'd make the3 login details identical on both machines, set up an smbpass on the ubuntu machine and it still didn't work. I ended up editing smb.conf to make the shares public and unauthenticated. I don't know how much of a security risk that is though.
[12:00] <Paddy_EIRE> GreyGhost: if that happens ever again u always have a live cd and this channel
[12:00] <Zenith2007> cheers, i tried search on internet and couldnt find much, ill give that ago :) bbs
[12:00] <GreyGhost> Paddy_EIRE . hehe
[12:00] <Otacon22> hey, anyone can help me about a pci tv card? I see all channels but I don't hear audio of anyone, why?
[12:00] <yommb> Zenith ( or Gnomebaker + cdrdao + mp3 ) or something like that , iy'll show you the available packages !
[12:01] <zzz_> mandrill: I am sorry but I don't think I can help...
[12:02] <Zenith2007> ack synaptic says the package list or status file could not be parse or opened :\ never seen that before
[12:02] <Tomcat_> Otacon22: Check that Line In volume settings are right.
[12:02] <mandrill> I think its a windows thing. getting it to network even with another windows machine is like an arcane art.
[12:02] <Zenith2007> hmmm think ill try a reboot :\ bb in a bit
[12:03] <Otacon22> Tomcat_, but if I say to alsamixer to up the volume of line in he up the volume of the line in of the audio card, I need to hear the audio from tv card.
[12:03] <Skuller> paddy_eire: if i do dat den i wud mentally force myself to learn...wich i can never do....i will only learn bcoz i want to n not coz  i have to....but yeh we all ave diff waiz of doin things so ur method also applies to many people m sure
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[12:03] <yeniklasor> Anyway can't I install x-window-system-dev package to my Ubuntu 6.10?
[12:04] <none71> Skuller: Well you've come this far :)
[12:04] <Tomcat_> Otacon22: Correct.
[12:04] <Tomcat_> Otacon22: If it isn't muted.
[12:04] <Otacon22> it isn't muted.
[12:04] <Skuller> none71: yea...n i aint goin bak to NOT usin ubuntu...m jus goin bak fer a brk to windows
[12:04] <mattycoze> greygoo found this: freeciv
[12:04] <bouter> who can help install my wireless card on my computer?
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> its great that Glipper exists for gnome now
[12:04] <Skuller> none71: to keep me sane i shud say
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> how i have missed this
[12:05] <Tomcat_> Otacon22: Check also that your TV app uses the correct audio settings.
[12:05] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor , http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=515709 ?
[12:05] <greygoo> mattycoze ahhh yes as you write i remember the name. didnt try it yet.
[12:05] <mattycoze> greygoo lol i remember playing it back in the day when it came out only compatible with dos
[12:05] <mackinac> do I need to create a /boot partition?
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> mackinac: no
[12:06] <ante_> can somebody help me with megaupload?
[12:06] <greygoo> mattycoze quite a while ago ? I guess
[12:06] <yeniklasor> OK but cedega wants this package to me
[12:06] <mackinac> thanks. is "swap" "/" and "/home" good enough?
[12:06] <Otacon22> Tomcat_, settings are correct
[12:07] <Tomcat_> Otacon22: No idea then, sorry. :\
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> mackinac: yes,
[12:07] <coNP> mackinac: sure
[12:07] <astrolabe> Hi.  I'm just starting with linux.  I'm doing "save link as" for a file in firefox, and the download window says it's done, but the file isn't there afterwards.  What's going on?
[12:07] <mandrill> zzz_: I can access the folder fine now from windows, thnx for your help. you don't know anything about task automation do you?
[12:07] <mackinac> cheers
[12:07] <GreyGhost> mackinac ,u dont even require /home ..i neveer use it ..
[12:07] <none71> astrolabe: Are you sure you know where you are saving it to?
[12:07] <GreyGhost> ;)
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> astrolabe: where is ff downloading to
[12:08] <none71> In preferences, select save to Desktop
[12:08] <astrolabe> none71, paddy: I'm saving to a directory I made called downloads, in tmp.
[12:08] <mackinac> GreyGhost, got it. ty
[12:08] <bouter> I have a linksys wmp54g PCI addapter in my computer ( RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g is the driver )  networking goves me a wlan0 and a wmaster0   installing wifi-radar gives me no networks what so ever
[12:09] <astrolabe> none71: thanks, I'll try that.
[12:09] <none71> Try install Network monitor
[12:09] <none71> and restart pc
[12:09] <bouter> iwlist wlan0 scanning     gives me a list of networks that the card found
[12:10] <bouter> so normally the card should be working right?
[12:10] <bouter> how come I can' t connect to my wireless router
[12:10] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor , x-window-system
[12:10] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,ok don.t...
[12:11] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,ts not what u need it seems..
[12:11] <bouter> also when entering a fixed IP in /etc/network/interfaces       it won' t work
[12:11] <yeniklasor> x-window-system Now installed :(
[12:11] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,just pop into #cedega and ask there..
[12:11] <yeniklasor> ok not importand
[12:11] <yeniklasor> ok thanks GreyGhost
[12:12] <GreyGhost> yeniklasor ,they will surely know... its their duty to know ...
[12:12] <newest> hey ive just dl java jre 5.0, its a .bin file, how do i install it? ive tried clicking on it, but nothing happens
[12:12] <yeniklasor> yes very thanks to this way
[12:12] <yommb> newest , theres detailed installation instructions on the java site
[12:12] <JosefK> newest: no need - sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[12:13] <coNP> newest: what about apt-getting the sun-java5-jre package
[12:13] <yommb> even better ... :)
[12:13] <astrolabe> none71: It doesn't seem to have appeared on my desktop.  It appears in the firefox downloads window, but when I click on it, it says 'filename.rpm does not exist. It may have been renamed moved or deleted since it was downloaded'.
[12:13] <mortal`> Is there a CD from which I can install without the live CD?
[12:13] <GreyGhost> isnt java6 still beta ?
[12:13] <bouter> newest  you can install those things with apt aswell      do an apt-cache search jre    and find what you need
[12:13] <newest> oh true! sorry, just im reaally new to ubuntu/linux, just switched from windows, still getting used to the commands etc
[12:13] <JosefK> GreyGhost: no, it's production now
[12:13] <coNP> GreyGhost: no
[12:13] <GreyGhost> mortal' ... the alterate install cd..
[12:13] <mortal`> okay
[12:13] <mortal`> thanks grey
[12:13] <GreyGhost> JosefK , coNP ok
[12:14] <GreyGhost> mortal` ,that cd will give u install in cmd
[12:14] <GreyGhost> !alternate | mortal`
[12:14] <ubotu> mortal`: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:14] <bouter> who read my problem? and has an idea on how to help me?
[12:14] <hellmet> For some reason, VMware refuses to open here. I've used vmware server before...
[12:14] <coNP> hellmet: what do you mean by refuses to open?
[12:15] <none71> astrolabe: Got me stumped
[12:15] <bouter> btw   the   iwlist wlan0 scanning     only works when I have a fixed IP entered in  /etc/network/interfaces
[12:15] <coNP> hellmet: you might have a new kernel, and vmware needs to be reconfigured now
[12:15] <hellmet> When I click on it.. the computer waits
[12:15] <hellmet> and then nothing happens
[12:15] <astrolabe> none71: ok.  Thanks for trying!
[12:15] <hellmet> when I type vmware-serverd in the terminal, I get nothing
[12:15] <coNP> hellmet: you should run sudo vmware-config.pl  in a terminal
[12:15] <hellmet> I did that.. do u mean I should try again?
[12:15] <coNP> hellmet: or at least check what /etc/init.d/vmware restart does
[12:16] <hellmet> lemme try
[12:16] <coNP> hellmet: does that provide any error messages?
[12:16] <hellmet> No error for the restart thingy
[12:17] <hellmet> i'm configing it again
[12:17] <hellmet> Unable to make a vmmon module that can be loaded in the running kernel:
[12:17] <hellmet> insmod: error inserting '/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon.o': -1 File exists
[12:17] <hellmet> There is probably a slight difference in the kernel configuration between the
[12:17] <hellmet> set of C header files you specified and your running kernel.  You may want to
[12:17] <hellmet> rebuild a kernel based on that directory, or specify another directory.
[12:18] <hellmet> coNP:  I got that upon running vmware-config.pl
[12:19] <mandrill> how do I change permissions so that everyone has full access to a folder (won't let me do it through the right click properties dialogue)?
[12:19] <coNP> hellmet: then you should reconfig, as it suggests
[12:19] <hellmet> so... do I reinstall it from the .tar.gz?
[12:19] <Tomcat_> mandrill: chmod o+r <folder>
[12:19] <coNP> hellmet: I guess config is enough
[12:20] <Tomcat_> mandrill: But if right-click won't let you do that, Terminal won't either.
[12:20] <hellmet> but that config gives me that error !!
[12:20] <mandrill> I'll use sudo
[12:20] <hellmet> I guess I'll try installing it again.. its the third time I',m doing it
[12:20] <mandrill> I just needed to know the command.
[12:20] <mandrill> thnx tomcat
[12:20] <branden> what is the command to list your hardware?
[12:21] <coNP> branden: lshw
[12:21] <coNP> branden: or sudo lshw, might be better
[12:21] <branden> coNP: thank you
[12:21] <Paddy_EIRE> later guys
[12:22] <coNP> branden: yw
[12:22] <newest> joe@joe:~$ sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin
[12:23] <newest> Reading package lists... Done
[12:23] <newest> Building dependency tree
[12:23] <newest> Reading state information... Done
[12:23] <newest> Reading extended state information
[12:23] <newest> Initializing package states... Done
[12:23] <newest> Building tag database... Done
[12:23] <newest> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[12:23] <newest> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:23] <newest> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[12:23] <newest> Writing extended state information... Done
[12:23] <newest> joe@joe:~$
[12:23] <newest> hmm, can someone explaine to me what this means? i just tried installing java, this came up
[12:23] <mandrill> tomcat: that didn't work
[12:24] <JosefK> newest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[12:24] <hellmet> coNP:  sudo vmware-serverd brings me back to prompt!!
[12:24] <mandrill> I maybe should have mentioned that I want to read, write, and execut from a windows machine. I can currently see the folder and its contents I just can't change, add, or delete anything.
[12:24] <newest> ahh its cool, i got it sorted now,
[12:24] <lnxmomo> hey
[12:25] <lnxmomo> how can i put a gdesklet applet always on top?
[12:25] <hellmet> coNP:  I reinstalled it ... I've previously installed vmware on Edgy on the same config Computer without problems
[12:25] <coNP> hellmet: I guess you should use the /etc/init.d/vmware script
[12:25] <mandrill> sod it. I need a coffee before I start getting into this again. bbl
[12:26] <hellmet> coNP:  It says its started fine.. but now.. where is the GUI !!
[12:26] <Freddy2> how can i set the GPG key for a mirror in order to prevent apt from showing an error message?
[12:26] <hellmet>  Starting VMware virtual machines...                                 done
[12:27] <hellmet> coNP: All I had to do was  'vmware' in the terminal !!!
[12:27] <hellmet> it started
[12:28] <coNP> cool
[12:28] <coNP> :)
 I 'm having some troubles configuring my linksys wmp54g card
 I' m asuming it' s installed correctly  since I have 2 new interfaces in my   NETWORKING   section
 wlan0 and wmaster0
 installing wifi-radar  gives me no networks what so ever
 none to connect to
 giving my card  wlan0 a fixed ip in /etc/network/interfaces    and then doing a iwlist wlan0 scanning   gives me all the networks in the area
 but still I can not connect correctly to my network
 the encryption key is correct
[12:29] <Slasherx2> hi
[12:29] <dinamizador> ola
[12:30] <Slasherx2> sorry to be a pain in the backside again but is there anyone about who knows about ndiswrapper? I recently upgraded to the latest ubuntu and can't get ndiswrapper to work again :|
[12:30] <coNP> Slasherx2: you mean edgy?
[12:30] <Slasherx2> yep
[12:31] <Slasherx2> i followed a few guides
[12:31] <Slasherx2> its showing driver installed & hardware present but it wont pick up anything when i try to scan
[12:31] <Slasherx2> Installed drivers: bcmwl5a         driver installed, hardware present
[12:34] <denardo> Hi, folks. I've run out of space on / . Any ideas what do cull? Might I have old .debs piling up somewhere?
[12:35] <Flannel> denardo: you only have one partition? or what isn't on /?
[12:35] <denardo> Flannel: /home is on its own partition.
[12:36] <hayden> you can clean the debs that you've downloaded using, sudo apt-get clean
[12:36] <Flannel> apt-get autoclean removes old debs (ones no longer in repos) apt-get clean removes all debs from your local archive.  Another thing you can do is delete your old kernels (via package management)
[12:36] <Flannel> also, double check /var/log, if you have some runaway log file, you might want to curtail that
[12:37] <denardo> Is there any reason that I might not want to do an autoclean?
[12:37] <shinobi2> how do i enable ssh daemon?
[12:37] <Flannel> shinobi2: the server?
[12:37] <shinobi2> want to ssh into ubunt
[12:37] <KenSentMe> Does apt keep a log of recent activities?
[12:37] <shinobi2> yeas
[12:37] <Flannel> shinobi2: install 'openssh-server'
[12:38] <Flannel> denardo: no standard reason not to autoclean, no.
[12:38] <yaman> i have asus laptop it's model is A6R and i can't get wan and webcam wroks on it can any one help ?
[12:38] <denardo> OK, apt-get clean freed up 10% of the partition. /var/log doesn't look too huge, so I think that's OK.
[12:38] <yaman> since yesterday i v been working on it and nothing happend
[12:39] <shinobi2> Flannel: i have it installed. do i need to open firewall ? pooke a hole?
[12:39] <Flannel> shinobi2: nope.
[12:39] <zoli2k> What is the best way to replace kubuntu with ubuntu desktop without new system installation?
[12:40] <unop> denardo,  have you checked out !localepurge ?
[12:40] <cafuego_> zoli2k: install 'ubuntu-desktop' and remove the kde stuff.
[12:40] <unop> zoli2k,  they both can co-exist quite well -- you could also run them side by side if you wanted
[12:41] <yaman> can any one enter to my pc via vnc to setup the wireless for me ??? :(
[12:41] <Morrowyn> morning
[12:41] <Limb> how can i enable/install 3D desktop?
[12:41] <Flannel> Limb: #ubuntu-effects (check the topic)
[12:42] <cafuego_> yaman: I hope not, that would be extremely insecure.
[12:42] <repp> hi, i'm trying to install Edgy, but i get a Buffer I/O Error from the cdrom during the installation. This is a bug fixed in newer 2.6.19/20 kernels, so what i have to do to install Edgy? are there nightly builds?
[12:42] <jahid> how can i install pgadmin in ubuntu linux?
[12:42] <zoli2k> unop, cafuego: thank you.  Last time I used KDE and gnome on the same machine there was a problem, that if I used gdm the shutdown button in KDE doesn't worked, vice versa, with kdm there was the same problem in Gnome. is It already solved?
[12:42] <Flannel> repp: the only ubuntu with 2.6.20 is Feisty, you sure its not a bad burn?
[12:43] <yaman> cafuego: more than 3 days of work and i can't get the wifi and the camera work on my computer what should i do ?? installing drivers is soo hard
[12:43] <unop> zoli2k, its quite likely .. but i cant be sure
[12:44] <fabio_> hi guys... i have a problem
[12:44] <repp> Flannel: yep checked with md5sum... are there Feisty builds available?
[12:44] <cafuego_> zoli2k: I've not come across that issue - but I've only used KDE once -briefly - on Ubuntu
[12:44] <master5o1> ARGH!
[12:45] <master5o1> it's not working! Upgrading from dapper using the alternate edgy cd as a repository in synaptic...
[12:45] <Flannel> repp: yeah, Herd3 is out (still Alpha though).  #ubuntu+1 has all the info.
[12:45] <repp> thanks Flannel
[12:46] <fabio_> i have try to recompile my ipw2200 driver....but make give me an error....and now...if i try modprobe this is the error:
[12:46] <fabio_> root@vaio:/home/fabio/Tool/ipw2200-1.1.4# modprobe ieee80211
[12:46] <fabio_> root@vaio:/home/fabio/Tool/ipw2200-1.1.4# modprobe ipw2200FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.20-cent/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[12:46] <unop> master5o1,  in what way is it not working? any errors or misbehaviour?
[12:46] <User2323> hello, upgrading from dapper to edgy broke hibernation, and after that failed, swap is now broken
[12:47] <master5o1> it just stays on "downloading 1 of 80x" for ages...and show details shows nothiing.
[12:47] <master5o1> ...scratch: it's just working right now--- to atleast 10
[12:47] <shinobi2> i want to use XDMCP, any free solution out there?
[12:48] <unop> fabio_,  if the compilation process failed, then there's no point continuing past that stage -- use a !pastebin to show us where the driver fails to compile
[12:48] <master5o1> why the ! before a word?
[12:48] <unop> master5o1,  how long has it been since you started it?
[12:49] <master5o1> not long...5 min
[12:49] <unop> !pastebin | master5o1 fabio_
[12:49] <ubotu> master5o1 fabio_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:49] <master5o1> now stuck on 10 :S
[12:49] <unop> master5o1,  give it time, somethings just cant be rushed :)
[12:49] <master5o1> i guess...
[12:50] <master5o1> my computer is old anyways...duron 750mhz. ~512mb ram 2*20GB HDDs. orginally came with one 20GB, and WinME.
[12:50] <master5o1> 1999 computer :P
[12:51] <unop> master5o1,  even more reason to let the "frail old man" get on with his job :p
[12:51] <master5o1> haha. true
[12:51] <neo__> uqit
[12:51] <neo__> quit
[12:53] <Slasherx2> anyone have any ideas on ndiswrapper?
[12:53] <shinobi2> i want to use XDMCP, any free solution out there?
[12:53] <master5o1> how do you mean by ideas?
[12:53] <unop> shinobi2,  XDMCP from what kind of platform?
[12:53] <Slasherx2> as in is anyone experienced with it lol
[12:53] <shinobi2> want to use window and remote into ubuntu
[12:54] <shinobi2> not vnc,
[12:54] <master5o1> o.
 I 'm having some troubles configuring my linksys wmp54g card
 I' m asuming it' s installed correctly  since I have 2 new interfaces in my   NETWORKING   section
 wlan0 and wmaster0
 installing wifi-radar  gives me no networks what so ever
 none to connect to
 giving my card  wlan0 a fixed ip in /etc/network/interfaces    and then doing a iwlist wlan0 scanning   gives me all the networks in the area
 but still I can not connect correctly to my network
 the encryption key is correct
[12:54] <jpjacobs> shinobi2, try Xforwarding over ssh and the Xming xserver for windows in combination with putty
[12:54] <frogzoo> !enter | bouter
[12:54] <ubotu> bouter: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:54] <shinobi2> vnc will create an inifite loop, i am running ubuntu in vmware
[12:54] <fabio_> is possible to set an option in /etc/modprobe.d/options for use it only with 1 kernel and not with another one?
[12:57] <master5o1> ...will tell you when it goes past 10.
[12:58] <unop> bouter,  monitor these files /var/log/{dmesg, messages, syslog} when you are trying to connect to the AP, you should find information in there that'll help you troubleshoot
[12:58] <unop> master5o1,  If i were you i would try and update from the command line so i can see just what is happening
[12:59] <master5o1> apt-get dist-upgrade? thing
[12:59] <unop> master5o1,  yep
[01:00] <oclet> 800/605-5167. The pass code is 310540
[01:00] <padlefot> could I play WOW with VMWARE and WindowsXP in Ubuntu 6.10?
[01:00] <unop> master5o1,  but i'd ensure that all other entries except the one corresponding to the cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list was commented out
[01:00] <ernst> you can play wow using wine
[01:00] <padlefot> ernst, not my question, but thanx
[01:01] <chevdor> hello folks, I am a gentoo user and I have a question before I suggest ubuntu to a friend. is precompiled (like mandrake) or updates need to recompile ? (this is for an old cpu)
[01:01] <GreyGhost>  padlefot , wine would be faster than VMware and XP ..
[01:01] <Daverocks> chevdor: almost everything is precompiled
[01:01] <oclet> 800/605-5167. The pass code is 310540
[01:01] <padlefot> GreyGhost: i see, thanx again
[01:01] <chevdor> Daverocks thanks
[01:01] <tobias_> lol my 1st irc session ^
[01:01] <fabio_> is possible to set an option in /etc/modprobe.d/options for use it only with 1 kernel and not with another one?
[01:02] <ernst> and yes, you should be able to do it that way too... but that's just slow i guess
[01:02] <GreyGhost> tobias_: congrats at it ..
[01:02] <tobias_> =D
[01:02] <thrope> Can anyone recommend a USB headset that will work on 6.10 with minimum effort?
[01:02] <tobias_> u zse gnome irc.. where is a nick list?
[01:02] <tobias_> ah i found it
[01:02] <ernst> how can i see what kernel i am running atm
[01:02] <coNP> ernst: uname -a
[01:03] <padlefot> GreyGhost: would i need something like wineX or similar packages? I havent been using wine for ages
[01:03] <tobias_> anyone knowin' how to use nvidia dual view?
[01:03] <padlefot> tobias_: i just made that work the other night
[01:03] <tobias_> good
[01:03] <GreyGhost> padlefot ,no idea bout performance of WoW ...  never platyed it ..
[01:04] <tobias_> padlefot.. pls tell me how =D
[01:04] <ernst> how come linux-headers-generic an  -image- show up in update screen but can't update them.... And how come my other system won't boot after kernel update!?
[01:04] <ernst> xorg.conf server config error.... dammit?
[01:05] <ernst> i can nano it but what do i change?
[01:05] <santhu> register spring
[01:05] <Rippawallet> hey
[01:05] <Rippawallet> i cant right click
[01:05] <Rippawallet> on my desktop
[01:05] <tobias_> padlefot?
[01:05] <padlefot> tobias_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584
[01:05] <none71> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may help you ernst
[01:06] <tobias_> ah
[01:06] <ernst> thanks
[01:06] <tobias_> thx
[01:06] <padlefot> np
[01:06] <shinobi2> jpjacobs: http://www.straightrunning.com/Xming/Captures/Xming.png   this is cool
[01:06] <padlefot> anybody here playing WOW in linux plz tell
[01:06] <ernst> i am
[01:06] <ernst> works fine... i am using wine!
[01:07] <ernst> it even works with beryl running.... so cool 3d cube with wow! lol
[01:07] <Slasherx2> turk spammers
[01:07] <neo2> Bsims
[01:07] <Slasherx2> lol
[01:07] <foul> Congratulations, ernst.
[01:07] <neo2> can someone help me ?
[01:07] <ernst> foul, thanks!
[01:07] <jrib> Rippawallet: did you disable natuilus from handling the desktop?
[01:07] <neo2> yo do u got problems withj spammers ?
[01:08] <Slasherx2> looks like it
[01:08] <jrib> !helpme | neo2
[01:08] <ubotu> neo2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:08] <neo2> yo do u got problems withj spammers ?
[01:08] <Slasherx2> damn turks
[01:08] <neo2> yo do u got problems withj spammers ?
[01:08] <jrib> neo2: stop please
[01:08] <Rippawallet> jrib, dunno
[01:08] <Rippawallet> lol
[01:08] <Rippawallet> dont think
[01:08] <Rippawallet> ah
[01:08] <Rippawallet> i fixed
[01:08] <Rippawallet> nvm
[01:08] <neo2> jrib,  is there an shell command for tcl enable
[01:08] <neo2> configure: error:
[01:08] <neo2>   Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[01:09] <jrib> neo2: you need to install the -dev package for tcl.  What are you trying to compile?
[01:09] <neo2> i am trying to compile eggdrop
[01:09] <neo2> how to install tje package ?
[01:09] <jrib> neo2: eggdrop is packaged in the repositories
[01:09] <apokryphos> !info eggdrop
[01:09] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[01:10] <neo2> i know what an eggdrop is
[01:10] <neo2> but dont understand what repositires meens
[01:10] <jrib> neo2: you can install it with apt-get or synaptic
[01:10] <apokryphos> neo2: take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:10] <neo2> ok
[01:10] <neo2> i will check
[01:10] <jrib> neo2: note that it is in "universe" repository, which isnt' enabled by default
[01:11] <neo2> what means sepository
[01:11] <jrib> neo2: it's also in the FAQ
[01:11] <neo2> ok
[01:11] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[01:11] <Mandrill> Is there an issue with the latest kernel updatesand losing your internet connection?
[01:12] <oclet> 800/605-5167. The pass code is 310540
[01:12] <foul> Mandrill; You have to configure your ethernet card using menuconfig.
[01:12] <foul> Or you can alternatively, copy your current .config in your new kernel.
[01:13] <master5o1> "like you know, whatever"
[01:13] <Mandrill> sudo menuconfig doesn't work
[01:13] <foul> Mandrill; cd /usr/linux
[01:13] <foul> make menuconfig
[01:14] <foul> Using 'sudo' of course.
[01:14] <zelevw> good afternoon...how can i detect wireless networks near me...im running 6.10...gracias.
[01:15] <foul> Mandrill; Follow this guide "http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-kernel/".
[01:15] <foul> zelevw; Download wifi-radar.
[01:16] <neo2> jrib,
[01:16] <zelevw> foul: thanks.
[01:16] <neo2> jrib,  i am now using synaptic and i am donwloading the packages so hopely it will work! thanxs!
[01:16] <jrib> neo2: great
[01:17] <fabio_> is possible to set an option in /etc/modprobe.d/options for use it only with 1 kernel and not with another one?
[01:17] <neo2> putiing cdrom in dfrive
[01:17] <neo2> so
[01:17] <Mandrill> foul: none of those are working. it says cd command not found, /usr/linux no such file or directory
[01:17] <Mandrill> do I really have to customize my kernel to get my internet connection back?
[01:17] <foul> oclet; hi
[01:17] <ernst> damm now i have to go over my momms place te repair her ubu, since the kernel update screwed her pc up (it should "Just Work").... grom, now she is babbeling about windows again! What can be the problem?
[01:18] <adaptr> Mandrill: where do you run this from ? you need root's environment to make this work
[01:18] <Mandrill> adaptr: terminal, using sudo
[01:18] <foul> Mandrill; You have to set the option.
[01:18] <neo2> jrib,  its has been installed an now hope h'e will work!
[01:18] <foul> Attempt su.
[01:18] <foul> Then cd /usr/src/linux.
[01:18] <adaptr> Mandrill: and where are you running it ?
[01:19] <foul> su != sudo
[01:19] <daviey> Is it possible to remove the need for a password on gnome's keychain?
[01:19] <adaptr> foul: totally unnecessary, but he should start from /usr/src/linux, yes
[01:19] <foul> daviey; Why would you want to remove the need for a password.
[01:19] <foul> adaptr; Yeah, he should.
[01:19] <Mandrill> adaptr: how do you mean where? I'm a linux n00b
[01:19] <miza> :-)
[01:20] <daviey> foul, because i don't want to type it in
[01:20] <adaptr> Mandrill: then whose instructions are you following here ?
[01:20] <foul> Mandrill; http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-kernel/
[01:20] <foul> Follow that.
[01:20] <paulcarpenter> for some reason I appear to have  kernel 2.6.17-10 and  kernel 2.6.17-11 installed at once (bodged upgrade?), how would I go about ridding myself of the old one (assuming that it is obselete?)
[01:20] <adaptr> par example ^^^
[01:20] <adaptr> paulcarpenter: use synaptic ?
[01:20] <paulcarpenter> which is what and how?
[01:20] <Yeti> I was in here earlier and someone posted an absolutely delicious link about fixing resolution and refresh rate upon fresh install of ubuntu? Can someone repeat it?
[01:20] <paulcarpenter> sorry
[01:20] <miza> morning!
[01:21] <adaptr> oh boy.. synaptic is Ubuntu's package manager
[01:21] <adaptr> !synaptic
[01:21] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:21] <jrib> !fixres | Yeti
[01:21] <ubotu> Yeti: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:21] <Mandrill> i was following foul's but they weren't working. customizing the kernel sounds risky.
[01:21] <tobias_> ey padfot if youre there =D it worked
[01:21] <Yeti> jrib, thanks much! :)
[01:21] <Mandrill> I'll give it a go though.
[01:21] <paulcarpenter> oh right, o.k.
[01:21] <foul> Mandrill; Follow the guide
[01:22] <tobias_> padlefot_: it worked
[01:22] <miza> ompaul: remember my X11 questions yesterday (connections via TCP)
[01:22] <ijk> I had a little clash with automatix yesterday and was adviced here to make a fresh install of ubuntu. That is now done. Then someone said I should get w32codecs - but where/how?
[01:23] <slvmchn> how, using crontab or otherwise, can i tell my computer to shut down in an hour?
[01:23] <Toma-> easyubuntu
[01:23] <ompaul> miza, eys
[01:23] <Toma-> ijk: ^^^
[01:23] <miza> ompaul: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc:  exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp
[01:23] <ijk> looking it up
[01:23] <neo2> jrib, : it works!!
[01:23] <miza> ompaul: I really didn't find that in the GUI
[01:23] <jrib> slvmchn: the "shutdown" command accepts a time as an argument, man shutdown should ahve the specifics
[01:23] <BigM85> hi
[01:23] <BigM85> !list
[01:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:23] <neo2> jrib, : i am now doing : make
[01:23] <neo2> so it works!!
[01:24] <BigM85> @find cisd
[01:24] <Slasherx2> wtf
[01:24] <Mandrill> I can't use apt-get cos it needs an internet connection. which is my problem. Its not the connection itself as I wouldn't be here if it was (using my windows machine).
[01:25] <jrib> neo2: no, you don't have to use make.  You don't need to compile when you use the package manager.  eggdrop gets installed and is ready for you to use it
[01:25] <slvmchn> what's the difference between "halt' and "poweroff'
[01:25] <neo2> jrib
[01:25] <neo2> i installed the stuff
[01:25] <neo2> i mean make in shell for eggdrop
[01:25] <neo2> because it workds
[01:25] <jrib> neo2: oh ok, I never used eggdrop :)
[01:25] <BruceAndMary> hp deskjet 3915 help
[01:25] <neo2> i used windrop but thats easy but linux is cool
[01:26] <neo2> the commands and stuff so
[01:26] <ijk> Toma-: I take it, the w32codecs are not "supported" by the package manager?
[01:26] <foul> Mandrill; Just follow the guide I showed you.
[01:26] <null__> hello all
[01:26] <ijk> thus I will have to use some external installer
[01:26] <Toma-> ijk: they are, theyre just a pain in the bum to setup :)
[01:26] <null__> how can i disable wireless network searching dhcp during bootup
[01:26] <xNinja> hello...how to install compilers stuff
[01:26] <Toma-> ijk: easyubuntu will do alot more than just install w32codecs
[01:26] <Mandrill> I can't it needs me to apt-get something from the internet which I can't do. I get connection refused.
[01:26] <jrib> !compiling | xNinja
[01:26] <ubotu> xNinja: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:27] <foul> null__; whats your wireless device called
[01:27] <ijk> as long as it's > automatix, I'll go with that then!
[01:27] <null__> foul, eth1
[01:27] <Slasherx2> does easyubuntu install ndiswrapper for you and config it lol
[01:27] <Toma-> Slasherx2: no :D but ndisgtk will
[01:27] <foul> null__; sudo rc-update del net.eth1 default
[01:28] <foul> null__; it should send a response back to the console, tell me what it tells you.
[01:28] <Diiba> Hi
[01:28] <null__> foul,  there is no rc-update
[01:28] <foul> Mandrill; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917
[01:28] <Diiba> How can I give user permission  to use the halt command without sudo?
[01:29] <Simulator> hello
[01:29] <slvmchn> what's the difference between "shutdown -h" and "shutdown -p" ? i want to make sure it shuts down fully, now when i shutdown via the menu it hangs and i have to manually hit the power button
[01:29] <Simulator> http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6397/screenshottl3.png
[01:29] <Simulator> can i update
[01:29] <Simulator> linux-image
[01:29] <foul> null__; cd /etc/init.d/
[01:29] <Mandrill> foul: I'm running the amd64 version of ubuntu.
[01:29] <foul> null__; show me all options that start with net
[01:29] <Diiba> Prob solved :E
[01:29] <foul> Mandrill; it should be the same.
[01:30] <foul> With perhaps, SMP added.
[01:30] <miza> ompaul: just remove that "-nolisten tcp"  clause
[01:30] <null__> foul, there is only rc rc.local and rcs there
[01:31] <foul> null__; No, what options start with net, in /etc/init.d/
[01:31] <null__> only networking
[01:31] <foul> Is dhcp there?
[01:31] <unop> slvmchn,  i believe -h halts the computer (doesnt necessarily turn the power off) , -p turns off and powers down the machine if the hardware supports it
[01:32] <null__> foul,  there is only dhcp-server
[01:32] <Mandrill> foul: ok, i see what you were getting at. I can boot using the old kernel. thnx , plz excuse my n00bishness.
[01:32] <foul> null__; Hrm. I have a net.eth0 and net.eth1 in my /etc/init.d/
[01:32] <null__> hmm
[01:33] <foul> null__; I think you can disable it in gnome, 'system->administration->services
[01:33] <foul> I'm not sure though, but check if dhcp is there, and disable it.
[01:33] <foul> This would cause you to dhcpcd eth0/eth1 whenever you login though.
[01:33] <foul> Why are you doing this
[01:33] <Diiba> How do I give permissions for a user to use halt command without sudo?
[01:33] <null__> foul, there is nothing enabled in services
[01:34] <Yodude> hey i want to install ubuntu
[01:34] <foul> Yodude; go for it.
[01:34] <foul> null__; hrm. I'm not sure how to help then
[01:34] <Yodude> and i am gonna dedicate 15Gb to the whole of it
[01:34] <unop> Diiba,  shutdown requires root's permission -- you need sudo to invoke it
[01:34] <foul> null__; why is this a problem anyway
[01:34] <foul> Yodude; go for it
[01:34] <Yodude> but i was thinking that i want a seperate /home partition
[01:34] <null__> Diiba, see the sudo manual to enable user sudo for shutdown
[01:34] <Yodude> they said it's better?
[01:34] <Diiba> I mean, without sudo
[01:35] <Diiba> just type sudo with normal acc. and BOOM the computer shuts down.
[01:35] <null__> foul, well cos it needs wpa setup n stuff for wireless to connect, and i dont want it to latch on to a wireless network on startup
[01:35] <Diiba> This may be far fetched.
[01:35] <null__> cos it takes too long to bootup
[01:36] <Mandrill> foul: after all that it was firestarter, sorry.
[01:36] <null__> Diiba, well add the user to a group that can do shutdown/halt
[01:36] <Diiba> Of course.
[01:36] <Diiba> Ty. :D
[01:36] <Yodude> foul: can you propose to me how  to divide 15GB into swap / and /home?
[01:36] <foul> Diiba; you can add your current user to the root permissions group?
[01:36] <foul> man sudo
[01:36] <foul> and you can add your user to root priv group
[01:36] <foul> It wouldn't be the best of security options though.
[01:36] <foul> Yodude; Go for it ;)
[01:36] <Yodude> i will go for it but answre my question plz
[01:36] <Yodude> lol
[01:36] <Yodude> :)
[01:36] <unop> Diiba, you can edit your sudoers file so that a particular user can only issue shutdown and nothing else if you're worried about security
[01:36] <null__> Yodude, how much mem have u got ?
[01:37] <Wooksta> i'm having a problem with full screen games in that they span both of my monitors instead of just sticking to one of the two monitors in full screen, can anyone help?
[01:37] <Yodude> 512Mb
[01:37] <Diiba> I'm not so worried about the security
[01:37] <null__> Diiba, do make sure u use visudo to edit the sudoers file
[01:37] <Diiba> K, ty guys :)
[01:37] <foul> Yodude; using gparted, the gnome partition manager available on the ubuntu installer, you can divide your partitions easily
[01:37] <null__> Yodude, then make swap 1gb or more about 1.5gb if u plan to suspend laptop
[01:37] <Yodude> i thought the installer had partman
[01:38] <foul> Do not 'delete' any current partitions, and use the recommended layout.
[01:38] <Yodude> i'm on desktop btw
[01:38] <Kervan> Hello. I have used this lines with console and i lose my wireless connection how can get it back?
[01:38] <Kervan> iwconfig wlan0 mode Monitor
[01:38] <Kervan> iwconfig wlan0 channel 1
[01:38] <Kervan> iwpriv wlan0 monitor_type 1
[01:38] <Kervan> ifconfig wlan0 up
[01:38] <null__> then just have a sensible / and home partitions
[01:38] <Yodude> i was thinking 1.8GB swap, 10Gb /home and 2.2GB /
[01:38] <Yodude> it that a good choice?
[01:39] <Yodude> =-O
[01:39] <Yodude> ??
[01:39] <null__> Yodude, depends what u want to do on it, if developement, u might want o install sources n stuff so / needs bigger and if ur just gonna store ur personalstuff then make home bigger
[01:39] <frogzoo> Yodude: 1gig swap 5gig /, 8 gig /home
[01:39] <null__> Kervan, did u ifconfig ethx down then up again ?
[01:40] <Yodude> why will i need 5GB for /? is that where my apps will be installed?
[01:40] <Kervan> yes i use this ifconfig ethx up
[01:40] <Yodude> huh frogzoo?
[01:40] <frogzoo> Yodude: unless you have a separate /usr & /var
[01:40] <Yodude> no those are gonna be with /
[01:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> i see the new kernel coming up as an update this morning
[01:40] <unop> Yodude,  how much RAM does the box have?
[01:40] <null__> well Yodude, mine is about 6gb / and the rest home
[01:41] <foul> unop; he's already said.
[01:41] <Yodude> than i think i'll make it 5GB yes so that i can install a good number of apps
[01:41] <foul> 512MB
[01:41] <Yodude> 512MB RAM
[01:41] <null__> Kervan, can u check if ur able to iwlist ethx scan ?
[01:42] <Kervan> null__: kervan@dellkubuntu:~$ iwlist eth1 scan
[01:42] <Kervan> eth1      No scan results
[01:42] <null__> are u sure there is signal strength?
[01:42] <Yodude> so 5GB / and 8GB for /home and 2GB for swap is good?
[01:42] <null__> check if radio is on
[01:42] <Yodude> it's balanced well i think
[01:42] <null__> try iwconfig eth1
[01:42] <Yodude> :)
[01:43] <unop> Yodude,  i'd do this - 1.024 Gb swap, 4gb / and ~9gb /home
[01:43] <Kervan> null__: how can i check?
[01:43] <null__> does it show radio on?, mode: managed?
[01:43] <Kervan> kervan@dellkubuntu:~$ iwconfig eth1
[01:43] <Kervan> eth1      unassociated  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"ipw2100"
[01:43] <Kervan>           Mode:Monitor  Frequency=2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[01:43] <Kervan>           Bit Rate=0 kb/s   Tx-Power:off
[01:43] <Kervan>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:43] <Kervan>           Power Management:off
[01:43] <Kervan>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[01:43] <null__> iwconfig eth1
[01:43] <Kervan>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:43] <Kervan>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:43] <Yodude> well tell me isn't / where my apps will be installed?
[01:44] <unop> Yodude,  it is
[01:44] <Yodude> ( i have / and /home and swap on 3 sperate pattitions)
[01:44] <null__> yo Kervan paste this stuff in pastebin, not in channel
[01:44] <null__> :)
[01:44] <Yodude> than 5Gb is better
[01:44] <Kervan> null__: sorry.
[01:44] <null__> seems like the radio is off, tx-power is off
[01:44] <Yodude> i'm good with 8GB for /home
[01:44] <kestaz> how to make <super> button work on ubuntu (just for beryl) ?
[01:44] <Kervan> null__: Thanks i fixed it with your helps.
[01:44] <Yodude> and 2GB swap seems pretty healthy
[01:44] <Yodude>  no?=-O
[01:44] <null__> Kervan, no probls mate
[01:45] <unop> Yodude,  if you feel you will be installing quite a lot -- then 5Gb is a fine approximate
[01:45] <null__> kestaz, check in the preferences->keyboard
[01:45] <unop> Yodude,  for most workstations swap suffices at 2 x RAM
[01:45] <Yodude> well i was hoping ubuntu will be able to run more software smoothly unlike windows
[01:45] <Kervan> null__: but now i cannot see any wireless network to connect?
[01:46] <Yodude> than you know what
[01:46] <Yodude> i'll do this:
[01:46] <null__> Kervan, iwlist eth1 scan
[01:46] <null__> no results ?
[01:46] <null__> tx power on now ?
[01:46] <Yodude> 1GB swap, 5GB / and 9GB for /home
[01:46] <Slasherx2> i get the same thing there iwlist eth1 scan no results
[01:46] <Yodude> good deal?
[01:46] <Slasherx2> but ndiswrapper is all setup :|
[01:46] <Yodude> lol deal or no deal?;)
[01:46] <Kervan> iwlist eth1 scan -> eth1      No scan results
[01:46] <Slasherx2> no deal
[01:46] <Slasherx2> lol
[01:46] <unop> Yodude,  sounds good yep -- :)
[01:46] <adaptr> Yodude: on the small side...
[01:47] <Yodude> what did you say adaptr?
[01:47] <unop> Yodude,  it all depends on how much you install -- me for e.g. / only adds upto some 2.8 GB
[01:47] <patrick_king> right i have a signup.php which puts the data into a Mysql DB is it possible to make a script or sum-thing to notify me of the new records
[01:47] <null__> Kervan, u sure there is a wireless network nearby and the txpoer is on now ?
[01:48] <Yodude> tell me is 2GB swap better for my 512MB ram desktop? or will it be the same?
[01:48] <adaptr> Yodude: I said that 5 GB root is on the small side, but that depends on how mych space you have, and how mcuh software you expect to install
[01:48] <Ramunas> can anybody point me to right tutorial how to get beryl working on Ubuntu? I have Nvidia ge force 6100, edgy eft
[01:48] <Kervan> my modem was woking before 10 minutes. let me restart it.
[01:48] <adaptr> Yodude: how much RAM ? if it's 1GB or more, 1GB swap is plenty
[01:48] <unop> patrick_king,  create a hook around your signup.php's register function to send a notification to you
[01:48] <Ramunas> I have no idea what drivers should I use, same with XGL vs AIGLX
[01:48] <Yodude> lol it's only 512MB
[01:48] <patrick_king> unop: how do i do that
[01:48] <Yodude> so i guess i'll stick with 1GB swap
[01:49] <Mandrill> can anyone help me stop firestarter blocking absolutelty everything? If I have it running I cant connect to the internet.
[01:49] <Slasherx2> Ramunas: do you have an ATi card?
[01:49] <null__> Ramunas, see wiki.bery-project.org
[01:49] <null__> there is howto for nvidia card, pretty straightforwaed
[01:49] <Slasherx2> Ramunas: cause I got ATi and followed this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FBeryl_.28ATI.29 and it works fine
[01:49] <unop> patrick_king,  errm, i dont know how your script is laid out nor do i know much php -- what i mean is -- get the script to notifiy you (by some means) after it has finished adding a record to the mysql database
[01:49] <adaptr> Yodude: in that case, 1gB is still enough - in fact, for recent kernels, 1GB should be a safe number regardless of how much RAM you have
[01:49] <Ramunas> Slasherx2: nvidia
[01:49] <frogzoo> Mandrill: you probly need to select ppp or dialup to connect to internet
[01:50] <Yodude> last question: in gparted i see that i have 3 partitions: one NTFS (28.87GB)
[01:50] <Slasherx2> Ramunas: k well if you go to that link then scroll to the next section there is one for nvidia
[01:50] <Ramunas> thanks, I'll try
[01:50] <Yodude> and one which is 28.40GB FAT32 but contains another partitio which is also 28.40 and FAT32
[01:50] <mneptok> neo2: proxy software?
[01:50] <Mandrill> strike that last. I had it set to whitelist. when I should have had it set to black list.
[01:50] <Slasherx2> np
[01:50] <unop> adaptr,  errm, you might want 10GB swap if you do entensive 3d graphics, video editing, CAD etc .. it all depends on how much memory applications and individual files require
[01:50] <Yodude> will i be able to resize the Fat32 partition?
[01:50] <neo2> mneptok,
[01:50] <neo2> no
[01:50] <neo2> an ircproxy
[01:50] <neo2> to connect
[01:50] <unop> Yodude,  sure
[01:51] <neo2> as firewall
[01:51] <frogzoo> Yodude: resize fat32 = yes, resize ntfs = no
[01:51] <adaptr> unop: you'd be better off buying the RAM your applications need, in that case - or it'll feel like you're working a 386
[01:51] <Yodude> the last two have one flagged LBA
[01:51] <Yodude> and it tells me that it's extended
[01:51] <adaptr> unop: in any case, that's the wrong way to go about buying memory
[01:51] <mneptok> neo2: using a proxy without the owner's consent is illegal. please do not ask for such information in this channel.
[01:51] <Yodude> (light blue colour)
[01:51] <unop> adaptr,  RAM is expensive -- its why swap was invented .. and if harddrive space is off no issue, make use of it
[01:51] <neo2> i mean for an other network for my eggdrop
[01:52] <adaptr> unop: 3D CAD work is way more expensive - and should be treated as such...
[01:52] <mneptok> neo2: do not ask for such information in this channel. last warning.
[01:52] <frogzoo> unop: ram was expensive, now it's cheap
[01:52] <neo2> ok
[01:52] <unop> adaptr,  there was a guy in here a couple of hours ago -- plays with gimp a lot -- he's got 20GB allocated for a swap partition .. even after 8GB RAM
[01:52] <frogzoo> unop: ramdisk as swap is now easily affordable & works well
[01:52] <adaptr> unop: okay, if the machine won't hold more memory...
[01:52] <Yodude> one last itty bitty question: i reead that when i resize a DOS partitonit might act weird in windows
[01:52] <Yodude> is that right?
[01:53] <Yodude> =-O
[01:53] <unop> frogzoo,  ramdisk as swap -- errm, why even have swap then? :)
[01:53] <fujin> yo
[01:53] <Kervan_> null__: i have restarted modem wireless is on now but i cant see wireless networks
[01:53] <frogzoo> unop: because linux likes to use unused swap as buffer space
[01:53] <Yodude> somebody plz answer me i'm in a rush
[01:53] <null__> Kervan, u cant see wireless networks ?
[01:53] <Yodude> :(
[01:54] <unop> frogzoo,  if i had sufficient RAM .. i'd just turn the swappiness right off and do away with swap altogether
[01:54] <ijk> I'm having some trouble adding the medibuntu-gpg key to my apt-repository. The guide says to do: "wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" but the last command (sudo apt-key add -) just stands there, doing nothing. Any idea what's wrong?
[01:54] <frogzoo> unop: it's still faster to use a ramdisk swap
[01:54] <Yodude> frogzoo: will resizing a DOs partition make it act wird in windows?
[01:54] <unop> frogzoo,  errm, it's faster yet if you dont use a ramdisk as swapspace at all
[01:54] <Kervan_> null__: i cannot se any wireless network now.
[01:55] <michael_> test
[01:55] <Kervan_> i can not see i mean
[01:55] <null__> Kervan, try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:55] <michael_> anybody sees me?
[01:55] <frogzoo> unop: disk swap < no swap < ramdisk swap
[01:55] <null__> lol yeah michael_
[01:55] <ijk> we do, michael_
[01:55] <michael_> thank yu
[01:55] <Yodude> frogzoo: plz answr me i don't have much time
[01:55] <prinsen82> nogle fra danmark??
[01:56] <unop> ijk,  the apt-key command is probably waiting  for wget to retrieve the key -- and thats taking time
[01:56] <frogzoo> Yodude: DO?
[01:56] <fujin> re
[01:56] <Yodude> DOS
[01:56] <ijk> unop: that means I can't split the two commands up?
[01:56] <KennethP> prinsen82: ja, vi kan ses p #ubuntu-dk ?
[01:56] <Yodude> i read that resizing DOS partitions can cause them to act wird in windows is that right?
[01:56] <Yodude> weird*
[01:56] <frogzoo> Yodude: should be fine, if you have any data you can't replace, back it up before resizing
[01:57] <unop> ijk,  sure you can -- retrieve the key first (i'm not sure the command is right tho) -- wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O-
[01:57] <Ninjai> W: GPG error: http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:57] <unop> ijk,  then import the key - sudo apt-key add medibuntu-key.gpg
[01:57] <ijk> ah, thanks unop!
[01:58] <xNinja> whats wrong with the repositories
[01:58] <nsg1sfubar> i have a wuestion
[01:58] <Yodude> i'm gonna have one last backup check then install
[01:58] <Yodude> c u on an installed linux!
[01:59] <null__> foul, it was /etc/network/interfaces comment the line auth ethx
[01:59] <Spee_Der> !ask
[01:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:59] <foul> null__; ahh, ok. Sorry about earlier.
[01:59] <null__> foul, no problem
[01:59] <nsg1sfubar> what program should I use to burn music cds so I can play them.  Example in my car
[01:59] <frogzoo> k3b
[02:00] <null__> nsg1sfubar, k3b, or cdtool
[02:00] <Spee_Der> nsg1sfubar: I strongly suggest K3B, it works great.
[02:00] <unop> xNinja,  last post on this page - http://www.debianadmin.com/adding-ubuntu-repositories.html
[02:00] <nsg1sfubar> will i be able to play them for sure
[02:00] <giesen> can someone lend a hand. Every time I suspend my laptop, it tells me my volume control has quit unexpectedly
[02:00] <giesen> how do I keep it from happening
[02:00] <giesen> or how do I have it reload on resume
[02:00] <Spee_Der> nsg1sfubar: it works just great.
[02:00] <nsg1sfubar> thanks
[02:03] <adil> guys where is the python chat room?
[02:03] <Kervan___> null__: please see this http://rafb.net/p/P4gOKM44.html
[02:03] <adil> 0x3243434
[02:04] <Freddy2> re
[02:04] <null__> Kervan, seems like the hardware is not detected or recognised
[02:04] <null__> what card are u using ?
[02:05] <Freddy2> i'm trying to install freenx on edgy, but after adding ubuntulinux/seveas repos there's no such package (it doesn't exist at edgy, only for dapper).. isn't there any source for it?
[02:06] <kaptengu> is there any program like daemon-tools in ubuntu? mount -o loop is no good for me, the iso must appear to be a cdrom
[02:06] <Freddy2> re
[02:06] <lukus001> Can anyone help me?  I recently formatted /reinstalled windows on my second hard drive.  I had an issue where Grub got ruined and wouldnt boot linux that someone ehre help me fix, but windows doesnt boot now from grub :)
[02:06] <frogzoo> kaptengu: d/l cdemu
[02:06] <kaptengu> ok thx frogzoo
[02:07] <Kervan___> null__:   intel based integrated wifi card. I use dell latitude d505 Laptop. But i was using before 1 hours and i use some commands and I am here.
[02:07] <jedi__> help, i must have updated my nvidia driver, now beryl has no borders. How do I get out of this one?
[02:07] <null__> jedi__, try reload window decorator
[02:08] <frogzoo> jedi__: -> #ubuntu-xgl
[02:08] <neo2> help
[02:08] <neo2> jrib,  ?
[02:08] <neo2> is there an command to replace an file with shell
[02:08] <jedi__> null_ reloading didnt work
[02:08] <jrib> neo2: replace a file with what?
[02:08] <null__> Kervan_, ummm, can u do a reboot and see
[02:08] <neo2> whiot shell
[02:08] <jrib> neo2: can you give an example?
[02:09] <null__> can u check lsmod | grep -i iee
[02:09] <jedi__> frogzoo:mean i need to reinstall xgl??
[02:09] <null__> jedi__, try reloading window manager?
[02:09] <neo2> because i need to reun eggdrop from " root/eggdrop " but i cant edit eggdrop.conf from there i maked eggdrop.conf but i hava replace it
[02:09] <Kervan___> null__: ok
[02:09] <null__> jedi__, nou dont need to reinstall
[02:09] <jedi__> null_:nah, that didnt work
[02:10] <null__> jedi__, can u kill beryl-manager and run berly from cmdline and see what error u getting ?
[02:10] <jrib> neo2: you need to use sudo to get access outside your user's $HOME
[02:10] <jrib> !sudo | neo2
[02:10] <ubotu> neo2: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:10] <neo2> jrib
[02:10] <neo2> i am using the root terminal
[02:10] <jahid> when i m using xmms, other sounds cant access the sound card. can anyone help me?
[02:10] <neo2> but i need the command
[02:10] <jrib> neo2: mv
[02:10] <jrib> !cli | neo2
[02:10] <ubotu> neo2: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:10] <bsm> hey, anyone using entrance here? I've got it from the e-develop
[02:10] <bsm> reps, but it does not work
[02:10] <jrib> neo2: mv /path/to/oldfile /path/to/newfile
[02:10] <neo2> ok
[02:10] <bsm> the process simply detaches and nothing happens
[02:10] <jedi__> null_:got back that xgl is absent..
[02:11] <null__> jedi__, try another option there from beryl-m,anager
[02:11] <Slike> hello, i just installed a kernel update (2.6.17-11-generic) and with that kernel my intel ipw3945abg wireless network card is not working, is this "normal"?
[02:11] <null__> bsm, entrance is very develpment version
[02:12] <jfried> hi
[02:12] <bsm> null_ entrance works on my elive box like a charm
[02:12] <jfried> can i prevent the update programm from updateing my kernel?
[02:12] <bsm> elive is debian *duck*
[02:12] <null__> Slike, ahh really, thanks for reminding me, cos i havent tried connecting with the intel driver for the new kernel
[02:13] <nsg1sfubar> can any one tell me were i can get a free cd of xubuntu
[02:13] <jedi__> null_:keeping getting "glx absent"
[02:13] <null__> jfried, i think there is option to disable certain packages, see in synaptic
[02:13] <Slike> null__: wlan led is off, and device is not initialized
[02:13] <null__> bsm did u compile e urself or repo ?
[02:13] <jfried> null__, thank you i have a look :)
[02:13] <null__> Slike, the driver is loaded ?
[02:13] <Freddy2> so still no repo for freenx on edgy?
[02:13] <bsm> null_ edevelop repos
[02:14] <null__> bsm, dont know, cos i just compile it myself
[02:14] <jahid> please help me about soundcard
[02:14] <null__> Slike, any output on log messages ?
[02:14] <Slike> null__: lsmod, search for ipw3945 ?
[02:14] <Slike> well, i'll reboot
[02:14] <null__> jahid, are u using the correct sound device for xmms ?
[02:14] <nsg1sfubar> can any one tell me were i can get a free cd of xubuntu
[02:15] <Slike> brb then
[02:15] <null__> Slike, restart network services
[02:15] <Kervan> null__: i have reboot but i can not see wireless networks too
[02:15] <Slike> currently i'm working with the previous kernel (don't have utp access here)
[02:15] <hbaigu> nsg1sfubar, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[02:16] <Daverocks> nsg1sfubar: you can't get free xubuntu CDs from shipit, but you still download the image
[02:16] <jahid> null__, i have installed ubuntu linux on my ibm laptop
[02:16] <Daverocks> nsg1sfubar: ... and burn it yourself from the image
[02:16] <nsg1sfubar> k
[02:16] <nsg1sfubar> thanks
[02:17] <null__> jahid, that doesnt help
[02:17] <neo2> jrib,
[02:17] <neo2> thanxs!
[02:17] <ProN00b> are there any cool games one can install over apt-get ? recommendations plox !
[02:17] <null__> ProN00b, abuse
[02:17] <jrib> ProN00b: I like chromium
[02:17] <jrib> neo2: np
[02:18] <Lynoure> ProN00b: What kind of games you like?
[02:18] <neo2> :)
[02:18] <ProN00b> Lynoure, no board games like the ones that come with ubuntu, but also no fancy 3d shit
[02:18] <Mandrill> Can someone tell me how to make NTFS mounts writable?
[02:18] <jahid> null__, how can i check which sound drive xmms is using?
[02:19] <frogzoo> !ntfs-3g
[02:19] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:19] <Daverocks> Mandrill: you can use ntfs-3g
[02:19] <Mandrill> ProN00b: have you tried freeciv?
[02:19] <xNinja> apt-get install build-essentials will give me all the build/make/compiling things i need ?
[02:19] <ProN00b> Mandrill, never been a fan of civilisation
[02:19] <frogzoo> build-essential
[02:19] <jrib> xNinja: yes
[02:19] <null__> check xmms opotions, i am not keen on xxms
[02:19] <Mandrill> daverocks: where do I get that?
[02:19] <null__> try amarok, totem, xine, mplayer instead
[02:19] <Daverocks> Mandrill: look at what ubotu said
[02:19] <Lynoure> ProN00b: I like Frozen Bubble surprisingly much. :)
[02:19] <jahid> null__, ok
[02:19] <null__> yes frozen bubble is good:)
[02:20] <ProN00b> Lynoure, lol
[02:20] <Mandrill> pron00b: abuse?
[02:20] <ProN00b> frozen bubble, the only game for linux - EVER
[02:20] <ProN00b> ^___^
[02:20] <Lynoure> Especially with two players.
[02:20] <ProN00b> Mandrill, yeah, i will try abuse
[02:21] <balony> I installed some packages from an unofficial reposotory but now I want the old original packages back. Is there a way to "reverd" this. Or get back the original ubuntu packages only.
[02:23] <levander> Did I get this message from "sudo aptitude upgrade" because I have nvidia hardware acceleration installed? "The following packages have been automatically kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic "
[02:23] <M3G4crux> can I run double agent from linux?
[02:24] <Rippawallet> brb
[02:24] <M3G4crux> ok, I will check in cedega :p
[02:25] <null__> well i am off guys
[02:25] <null__> sayonara
[02:25] <null__> sleep now
[02:26] <ProN00b> ok, abuse isn't my thing.... can anyone recommend anything better/else ?
[02:26] <foul> later, null__
[02:26] <foul> ProN00b; abuse?
[02:27] <ProN00b> foul, a game
[02:27] <xNinja> after installing buil-essentials i have to reboot ?
[02:27] <hbaigu> xNinja, no
[02:27] <xNinja> build-essential*
[02:28] <xNinja> humm
[02:28] <The_Entropy> hello
[02:28] <coincoin169> hello everybody
[02:29] <The_Entropy> i'm currently booted from an ubuntu live CD and i'm trying to install it
[02:29] <jrib> ProN00b: you didn't like chromium either?
[02:29] <Lynoure> ProN00b: looked through  apt-cache search game   already?
[02:29] <The_Entropy> however i'm having some trouble with the partitionning
[02:29] <The_Entropy> can anyone here help me?
[02:29] <ProN00b> jrib, well, i have seen better scroller games
[02:29] <coincoin169> i'va got a problem installing the feisty herd 3 server from CD
[02:30] <enry183> somebody know about mini-itx??
[02:30] <coincoin169> just after choosing my location and language it detects the disks and freeze
[02:30] <coincoin169> how can i fix it
[02:30] <Slike> hello again, with the new kernel 2.6.17-11-generic, i still can't use my ipw 3945, my logs (lsmod, /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog): http://users.skynet.be/stijn.verslycken/ubuntu/lsmod.txt , http://users.skynet.be/stijn.verslycken/ubuntu/messages.txt, http://users.skynet.be/stijn.verslycken/ubuntu/syslog.txt
[02:30] <Mandrill> I'm getting ign and err messages when trying to access the repostiories for ntfs-3g
[02:31] <levander> Why when you do a "sudo aptitude upgrade" would some packages get automatically held back?
[02:32] <foul> _emmanuel from #2600?
[02:32] <Mandrill> levander: because you've already got them?
[02:32] <levander> Mandrill: only three are being held back, this is the message, "The following packages have been automatically kept back: linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[02:33] <levander> I have nvidia hardware acceleration installed, and I'm wondering if that has something to do with it.
[02:34] <lupine_85> levander: did you use an unofficial repo for the drivers?
[02:34] <levander> lupine_85: no
[02:34] <lupine_85> hmm
[02:34] <lupine_85> a dist-upgrade should fix
[02:34] <levander> lupine_85: everything on the machine is from the official canonical repositories, no backports stuff
[02:34] <pbureau> Morning to all
[02:34] <lupine_85> ok
[02:34] <levander> lupine_85: i'm already on edgy and don't want to go to feisty
[02:34] <lupine_85> it won't
[02:35] <lupine_85> just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade#
[02:35] <lupine_85> without the #
[02:35] <lupine_85> actually, with or without makes no difference
[02:35] <agliv5> Greetings all :)  I'm having problems with kqemu ever since I updated the linux headders... I found out that they have to be compiled with gcc 3 and mine apparently wern't... so where can get the sources to compile with gcc 3?
[02:35] <Yodude> hey i'm having a problem installing
[02:35] <levander> lupine_85: why would i dist-upgrade?  i thought that was only for going up to the next distribution?  it just sounds like wierd advice
[02:35] <Yodude> i had 4 operations pending
[02:36] <lupine_85> no, dist-upgrade resolves held-back packages
[02:36] <Yodude> the first is resizing the FAT32 partition
[02:36] <lupine_85> you can upgrade to a new version using upgrade, you'll just have a lot of held back packages
[02:36] <levander> lupine_85: okay, i'll try simulating a dist-upgrade
[02:36] <Yodude> it was 28.40GB and i resized it to about 13 GB
[02:36] <levander> lupine_85: but, why are packages held back?
[02:36] <Yodude> i did all the changes without applying
[02:36] <lupine_85> no idea
[02:37] <lupine_85> I always dist-upgrade :D
[02:37] <Yodude> but when i applied it said that there was an error while resizing to 13GB
[02:37] <Yodude> what is it?
[02:37] <Rippawallet> the time is 13:37
[02:37] <lupine_85> Yodude: did you defragment the partition
[02:37] <Yodude> no
[02:37] <lupine_85> well, you'll need to
[02:38] <lupine_85> otherwise there'll be data towards the end of it...
[02:38] <Yodude> why?
[02:38] <Yodude> oh
[02:38] <bandyt> sorry about the multiple join/quits first time using xchat
[02:38] <lupine_85> because FAT and windows are pathetic ;)
[02:38] <Yodude> well how to i defragment it from ubuntu?
[02:38] <lupine_85> you can't, I believbe
[02:38] <lupine_85> back to windows
[02:38] <Yodude> dam but it will take tons of time!
[02:38] <levander> lupine_85: are you intentionally giving bad advice?
[02:39] <lupine_85> no
[02:39] <Yodude> do you think i should retry and give you the details of the resizing operation?
[02:39] <lupine_85> Yodude: if there's data towards the end and you resize, and it lets you (luckily it won't), you lose that data
[02:39] <levander> lupine_85: okay, my bad, maybe you are right about having to defrag a FAT32 partition for resizing
[02:39] <lupine_85> just boot back into windows, defrag, back into the live cd and partition
[02:40] <lenain> p
[02:40] <Mandrill> is there anywhere else I can get ntfs-3g. the reps mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ are coming up with 404s, ign, and err,?
[02:40] <Yodude> but defrag will prolly take hours!
[02:40] <lupine_85> thanks for the vote of confidence... I think
[02:40] <levander> lupine_85: dist-upgrade suggests conflict resolutions for the held back packages, i think i'm going to wait and learn more about why the packages are broken (as reported by dist-upgrade) before I fix them
[02:40] <shirokoff> Hello, i've got a problem installing my wifi ethernet card under ubuntu. Is there any ubuntu brivers for D-Link WiFi Adapter????
[02:40] <lupine_85> Yodude: so delete the partition - losing everything - if you can't be bothered
[02:40] <Hobbsee> levander: just wait for a bit, while the fix gets ot the mirrors, then update
[02:40] <Yodude> nono
[02:40] <lupine_85> those are your two options
[02:40] <Yodude> look
[02:41] <stonarmusic> anyone help me with my ipod shuffle?
[02:41] <Hobbsee> levander: ie, dist-upgrade, but leave your repos as tehy are
[02:41] <Yodude> i looked at the details mself
[02:41] <Yodude> i saw at the end of the resizing log this:
[02:41] <pbureau> shirokoff,  what kind of card is it pci, usb, pcmcia ?
[02:41] <levander> Hobbsee: yeah, dist-upgrade is what lupine_85 said
[02:41] <Yodude> Oen /dev/hda5 no such directory
[02:41] <Yodude> open*
[02:41] <shirokoff> PCI
[02:41] <lupine_85> yeah, that's because the new partition wasn't created
[02:41] <fluxy> Hello people
[02:41] <MaximLevitsky> I have a question about feisy I just installed. Can update it to final version when it releases ? and when feisy 4 is released will I be able to update ?
[02:41] <lupine_85> it's a red herring
[02:42] <andy> can it be that security.ubuntu.com is currently offline?
[02:42] <lupine_85> MaximLevitsky: assuming it doesn't break completely between now and then, sure
[02:42] <levander> Hobbsee: why would I wait for the mirrors?  I'm using ubuntu.com in sources.list
[02:42] <stonarmusic> i had a shuffle that worked great, automounted and everything, it died, so apple sends me a new one that my pc doesn't even 'see' for some reason
[02:42] <Yodude> no /dev/hda5 is my old FAT32 partition that i'm resizing
[02:42] <pbureau> shirokoff, see my private message to you
[02:42] <Hobbsee> levander: if you've installed nvidia stuff off the nvidia site, then you'll need to rerun the installation file (and do,e very kernel update)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> MaximLevitsky: yes
[02:42] <stonarmusic> other usb devices work in that port
[02:42] <levander> Hobbsee: no, I installed it from the ubuntu.com repositories
[02:42] <Hobbsee> levander: maybe you dont need to then
[02:42] <MaximLevitsky> lupine_85 , understood  :-) , thanks a lot
[02:43] <Hobbsee> levander: right, good. just dist-upgrade, and keep your repos the same
[02:43] <oxigen> Hi guys! I dont know how to setup Terminal Emulator in Konqueror. Can anyone help me?
[02:43] <stonarmusic> i haven't recompiled my kernel or anything like that, nothing shows in dmesg
[02:43] <Yodude> and when i go back to the partition editor i see that the partition exists and is resized and i have the unallocated space i wanted
[02:43] <Yodude> so?
[02:43] <Hobbsee> oxigen: hit f4?
[02:43] <oxigen> Hobbsee: doesnt show!?
[02:44] <bsm> which init script starts hald?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> oxigen: i'm not sure what you mean by terminal emulator
[02:44] <Hobbsee> bsm: /etc/init.d/hald ?
[02:44] <bsm> ah its dbus
[02:44] <oxigen> Hobbsee: konsole
[02:44] <Hobbsee> ah, yes
[02:44] <bsm> Hobbsee: you are usinb ubuntu?
[02:44] <feiichi> hi.. how can I define a default app for a specific mime type? eg. xmms for *.mp3s
[02:44] <The_Entropy> Yodude: having trouble with the partitionner?
[02:44] <levander> Hobbsee: I'm thinking I installed some kind of custom kernel module from ubuntu.com for the nvidia driver, then they did a security upgrade for the kernel, but not for the module.  And, that's why aptitude is complaining that my packages will be broken.
[02:45] <levander> Hobbsee: will they upgrade the module I installed for the nvidia driver?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> levander: that's not it.  and they have already, i think.
[02:45] <Rippawallet> whats the default root pass
[02:45] <Yodude> yes entropy
[02:45] <IdleOne> can someone tell me why when ubuntu does an update like it is doing right now . Linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 isnt updating? this is second or third update in a row that I see them and they are not checked
[02:45] <Yodude> help me please
[02:45] <Yodude> i'm new to his
[02:45] <Hobbsee> !root | Rippawallet
[02:45] <ubotu> Rippawallet: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:46] <Mandrill> is there anywhere else I can get ntfs-3g. the reps mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ are coming up with 404s, ign, and err,?
[02:46] <Rippawallet> hmm
[02:46] <Rippawallet> ok
[02:46] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: close synaptic, type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a console
[02:46] <Yodude> The_Entropy: please help
[02:46] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: then hit y
[02:46] <simprix> what package provides vgscan
[02:46] <Hobbsee> !search vgscan
[02:46] <ubotu> Found:
[02:46] <Hobbsee> simprix:
[02:46] <Hobbsee> simprix: search packages.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <_Jaak_>  on every computer on wich i've installed the kernel update, stop working! Now what? How do i fix it? (going from 2.6.17.10 -> 2.6.17.11)
[02:46] <simprix> Hobbsee: I did
[02:46] <feiichi> nevermind, thx
[02:47] <Arcad3> whats the newest Ubuntu Distribution?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> simprix: according to apt-cache, nothing in the repositories does
[02:47] <Arcad3> and stable too
[02:47] <levander> Hobbsee: okay, I just ran "sudo aptitude update" and got this, "W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_main_binary-i386_Packages)"
[02:47] <Hobbsee> Arcad3: edgy
[02:47] <Arcad3> !edgy
[02:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:47] <null__> holy crap the intel wireless driver is broken with eht new kernel
[02:47] <levander> Hobbsee: something's wierd on my machine
[02:47] <null__> crap
[02:47] <Hobbsee> levander: you can ignore that.  means you've got the same repo listed twice.
[02:47] <null__> cant seem to connect any more
[02:47] <simprix> Hobbsee: there where does it get installed
[02:48] <Mandrill> _jaak_: restart your machine and hit esc to get a boot menu. it should give you the option to load the previuos version of the kernel
[02:48] <Hobbsee> simprix: no idea.  probably depends on where you actually got it from
[02:48] <IdleOne> Hobbsee: now it wants to remove those same 2 packages
[02:48] <simprix> Hobbsee: It install when I installed ubuntu my filesystems are lvm
[02:49] <Hobbsee> simprix: hrm, okay.   no idea.
[02:49] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: interesting.  which mirror are you using?
[02:49] <Mandrill> !fuse
[02:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:49] <null__> ahh Hobbsee
[02:49] <_Jaak_> Mandrill, that i know, but that not really an awnser...
[02:49] <IdleOne> Hobbsee: us.
[02:49] <null__> any one else have the same problem?
[02:49] <Yodude> i'm gonna proceed anyway because it did give an error but when i pressed the back button and returnred to gparted i found that the partition IS resized and i DO have my required freed space
[02:50] <null__> just before some one else mentioned the same problem
[02:50] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: right.  wait for the fix (should be there in the next day or so)
[02:50] <IdleOne> Hobbsee: so I say no to removing the packages then ?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: yes, i think so
[02:50] <Yodude> idleone: can you help me plz?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> balony: heya
[02:50] <Yodude> :-/
[02:50] <IdleOne> Yodude: with
[02:51] <levander> Hobbsee: i found the dupe and am rerunning "sudo aptitude upgrade", it's taking a long damn time to connecto to security.ubuntu.com...
[02:51] <Yodude> installing
[02:51] <agliv5> Hey all :) I'm having problems with kqemu and the new linux headders :( Can anyone help me out?
[02:51] <null__> _Jaak_, what is broken ?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> levander: yes, i'm thinking it's down
[02:51] <Yodude> when i was resizing my FAT32 partition
[02:51] <Rippawallet> brb
[02:51] <Yodude> Gparted told me there was an error
[02:51] <levander> Hobbsee: i wonder if it's related to my problem??
[02:51] <_Jaak_> null__, xserver won't start
[02:51] <Hobbsee> levander: doubt it - but it wont be helping either.  it was a bug in the release software, not on your system.
[02:51] <Yodude> i checked the details and i saw at the end ot them this" Open /dev/hda5: No such Directory
[02:51] <null__> _Jaak_, is it nvidia ?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> levander: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/83976 if you really want to know
[02:52] <_Jaak_> yes
[02:52] <null__> _Jaak_, u need to recompile the nvidia driver
[02:52] <Yodude> but when i click the back button and went back to gparted i saw that the partition was indeed resized and that i have my required freed space
[02:52] <levander> Hobbsee: well, i just successfully completed "sudo aptitude upgrade" and re-ran "sudo aptitude upgrade" - same broken packages
[02:52] <IdleOne> Yodude: anything important on that partition? if not just format the whole thing and then install. ( running defrag on it might be a good idea but I have never defragged apartition before )
[02:53] <_Jaak_> is there a wiki for it? or can i just wait for a compatible version showing up on the repository?
[02:53] <Yodude> i think i'm gonna continue with formatting the unallocated space
[02:53] <levander> Hobbsee: don't you have to manually reinstall hardware acceleration after you every time you upgrade your kernel?  I thought I remember reading that somewhere.
[02:53] <Yodude> it did appear at the partition table
[02:53] <Hobbsee> levander: custom compiled stuff, yeah.
[02:53] <The_Entropy> Yodude the partitionner in the ubuntu installer just fucked me over in teh same way
[02:53] <null__> _Jaak_, its very easy to install the nvidia driver, just download the installer from nvidia site and install
[02:53] <levander> Hobbsee: well, i didn't compile nothing
[02:53] <Yodude> maybe the partitioner could find /dev/hda5 cuz i didn't mount it
[02:53] <null__> just run the installer and it does everything for u
[02:53] <The_Entropy> you can't partition it if its mounted
[02:54] <The_Entropy> null__: no it doesnt, it destroyed one of my NTFS partitions
[02:54] <levander> Hobbsee: you remember the command that will go through and report all the unmet dependencies for packages?  I think it's like "apt-get check" or something...
[02:54] <The_Entropy> i was tring to resize it
[02:54] <lupine_85> yeah
[02:54] <lupine_85> ntfsresize is useless
[02:54] <Hobbsee> levander: apt-cache unmet
[02:54] <_Jaak_> but i am using an other repository for my nvidia driver, the one from wiki beryl instructions
[02:54] <Yodude> man no your are wrong you should never resize NTFS!
[02:54] <lupine_85> was that in edgy?
[02:54] <andy> can it be that security.ubuntu.com is currently offline?
[02:54] <Yodude> it was your fault
[02:54] <Yodude> they wanred not to resize NTFS
[02:54] <lupine_85> Yodude: the installer offers...
[02:54] <null__> The_Entropy, it was my suggestion to _Jaak_ not u
[02:55] <levander> damn i have a *lot* of unmet dependencies!
[02:55] <The_Entropy> ummm no i've done it before
[02:55] <The_Entropy> and it worked
[02:55] <lupine_85> yeah, it breaks randomly
[02:55] <The_Entropy> heh...
[02:55] <Hobbsee> levander: ah, yeah.  most arent instaleld though
[02:55] <IdleOne> andy: it is possible that they are updating repos might be a little while
[02:55] <jenda> Test your Ubuntu l33tness at the weekly Ubuntu QUIZ! Be sure to join #ubuntu-trivia at 14:00 UTC tonite. This weeks prize: Ubuntu 6.10 DVD Edition Donated by: mc44
[02:55] <Yodude> anyway i'm gonna continue my install sine after all it DID get resized in real and i DO have the unallocated space i wanted
[02:55] <levander> Hobbsee: ...
[02:55] <Yodude> c u guys
[02:56] <_Jaak_> null__, but i am using an other repository for my nvidia driver, the one from wiki beryl instructions
[02:56] <null__> Hobbsee, is there any bugs reported for the intel driver with the new kernel ?
[02:56] <levander> levander: don't know what to think, seems like list time "aptitude upgrade" held some packages back, there was a command i ran, and it told me why the packages were held back, and what specifically was broken about them
[02:56] <Hobbsee> null__: no idea.  i dont run edgy
[02:56] <lupine_85> _Jaak_: I'm getting round to an update for that one
[02:56] <levander> but, that was like a year ago
[02:56] <lupine_85> please tell me you read the info page before you used it?
[02:57] <null__> _Jaak_, does not matter, if there is new kernel and u update it, u either need to wait for repo updates for kernel for nvidia or run the nvidia installer again
[02:57] <lupine_85> you know: http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/
[02:57] <levander> lupine_85: that link is for me?
[02:57] <lupine_85> no, for _Jaak_
[02:58] <_Jaak_> *hugs lupine_85* i will wait for that, thanks
[02:58] <shoumik> Hi, how do i download the java plugin for firefox
[02:59] <CaptainMorgan> folks - trouble with wireless, but it's strange. Here's what I am to do: Get a signal from ath0; receiving and sending of packets; I can log into a remote server with ssh from a console. What I can't do: browse using firefox; ping any site. Is there some kind of blockage going on that is allowing me to use SSH froma  terminal and not a browser?
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> also, what is the command line chat interface called?
[03:00] <apokryphos> irssi
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> Ill try that when I reboot, thanks
[03:00] <_Jaak_> lupine_85, lol "kills a kitten"
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> also, Gaim, and Xchat do not work either.
[03:00] <lupine_85> indeed they do
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> yet, I don't understand the terminal ssh login.
[03:01] <fredl> from the rescue mode, how can I install packages from the CDROM into /target ?
[03:01] <fredl> I think one or more packages are seriously damaged.
[03:01] <shoumik> Hi, how do i download the java plugin for firefox
[03:02] <oxigen> shoumik: google
[03:02] <lupine_85> ...
[03:02] <lupine_85> one second shoumik
[03:03] <lupine_85> !info sun-java6-plugin
[03:03] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-plugin does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[03:03] <shoumik> !info sun-java6-plugin
[03:03] <lupine_85> !info sun-java5-plugin
[03:03] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-plugin does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[03:03] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:03] <shoumik> !info sun-java5-plugin
[03:03] <lupine_85> aha
[03:03] <lupine_85> that one should do it
[03:03] <bulmer> shoumik  i did this yesterday  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[03:04] <null__> ha someone just posted:  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84372
[03:04] <shoumik> ty
[03:04] <null__> seems same problem here
[03:04] <fredl> from the rescue mode, how can I install packages from the CDROM into /target ?
[03:04] <lupine_85> fredl: with a combination of dpkg and chroot
[03:04] <GMWeezel> My computer has Hyper Threading; do I need to install the Linux Symmetric Multi-Processing package?
[03:05] <fredl> lupine_85, got a howto or something somewhere?
[03:05] <Yodude> hey the installer is telling me that GRUB will be installed on (hda0)
[03:05] <MonkeyINAbaG> anyone ever done a dist-upgrade from debian to ubuntu?
[03:05] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have an idea?
[03:05] <CaptainMorgan> dang.. almost 1k users..
[03:05] <fredl> lupine_85, when I chroot into /target, all command will be run from /target as well, right?
[03:05] <Yodude> is it right or should i choose another partition?
[03:05] <ardchoille> Anyone looking for a way to ghost a partition, I recommend PartImage. I had a hd die. I popped in a new one, partitioned it and used PartImage to restore from a recent image. The whole thing took about 10 minutes and that box is up and running where it left off :)
[03:05] <lupine_85> fredl: yes
[03:06] <shoumik> I'm getting an error message
[03:06] <shoumik> Unable to get exclusive lock
[03:06] <shoumik> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[03:06] <fredl> lupine_85, well, the dpkg -i from /target is the one that segfaults so I can't use that one :/
[03:06] <lupine_85> so you can find the .deb file, then dpkg -i <filename>
[03:06] <shoumik> and nothing is
[03:06] <lupine_85> ah
[03:06] <ardchoille> shoumik: Is Synaptic open?
[03:06] <Yodude> shouldn't i install it on the ubuntu root partition?
[03:06] <shoumik> no
[03:06] <lupine_85> are you trying to reinstall dpkg ?
[03:06] <Yodude> huh?!?=-O
[03:06] <shoumik> w8 i think i have to restart
[03:06] <fredl> lupine_85, that's what I intend to try first yeah
[03:06] <fredl> lupine_85, but I think that libc6 is damaged.
[03:06] <shoumik> becausee my i got some u[dates
[03:06] <jahid> can anyone tell me couple of good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[03:07] <shoumik> amarok
[03:07] <lupine_85> ok, in that case you "could" try ar -x <file.deb>
[03:07] <shoumik> the best
[03:07] <lupine_85> then tar -xzf data.tar.gz
[03:07] <jpjacobs> jahid, programs, or physical mp3players?
[03:07] <lupine_85> then cp into /target
[03:07] <Yodude> idleone: can you help me again a bit?
[03:07] <lupine_85> but that's potentially very dangerous
[03:07] <jahid> jpjacobs, programs. i want to install in my ubuntu
[03:07] <fredl> ok, there's a thought, lemme try that, tnx for now I'll let you know in a bit if it worked.
[03:07] <lupine_85> if libc is broken, I'd recommend a reinstall personally
[03:07] <IdleOne> Yodude: ask your question and if I cant help someone will try
[03:07] <shoumik> jahid: amarok
[03:08] <shoumik> you can find it in synaptic
[03:08] <shoumik> or in the add/remove programs in the app's menu
[03:08] <Yodude> ok one which partiton should GRUB be installed?
[03:08] <lupine_85> typically the MBR
[03:08] <lupine_85> e.g. /dev/ha
[03:08] <lupine_85> erm, hda
[03:09] <lupine_85> unless you have a bootloader on the mbr that can chain to grub (most people don't), that's what you want
[03:09] <Yodude> it says it is going to be installed on (hda0)
[03:09] <lupine_85> that's right
[03:09] <Yodude> but i don't have that partition
[03:09] <lupine_85> hd(0,0) ?
[03:09] <Yodude> i have hda1 hda5 hda6 hda7 and hda8
[03:09] <lupine_85> grub uses a different naming scheme
[03:09] <StarScream> just installed gnome-network manager, can't for the life of me find how to get the applet started...any ideas?
[03:09] <jpjacobs> jahid, mplayer/xmms/ (amarok if you're willing to pull in kdelibs for that)/cmus/....
[03:10] <CaptainMorgan> StarScream,where is that located?
[03:10] <Yodude> nono it just says in the summary b4 the installaion "GRUB will be installed on 9hda0)
[03:10] <Yodude> (hda0)
[03:10] <StarScream> CaptainMorgan: well thats the thing ..i'm not sure..i can't find it :)
[03:10] <CaptainMorgan> System/Admin ?
[03:10] <StarScream> hence why i'm asking in here
[03:10] <jahid> jpjacobs, i instlaled xmms, but the poblem is, when its playing song, i dont get sound from other software. like from amsn
[03:10] <Yodude> so it's right?
[03:10] <Yodude> i proceed?
[03:10] <CaptainMorgan> id like to find that myself...
[03:11] <Yodude> lupine_85: should i proceed?
[03:11] <LjL> lupine_85: do you know if the nvidia drivers from your repositories work with edgy's new 2.6.17-11 kernel? the ones i was using (not yours) break X
[03:11] <CaptainMorgan> folks - trouble with wireless, but it's strange. Here's what I am able to do: Get a signal from ath0; receiving and sending of packets; I can log into a remote server with ssh from a console. What I can't do: browse using firefox; ping any site; can't use Gaim, and Xchat. Is there some kind of blockage going on that is allowing me to use SSH from a terminal and not a browser?
[03:11] <lupine_85> LjL: I'm getting an update soonish
[03:11] <lupine_85> Yodude: yes, should be fine
[03:11] <jpjacobs> jahid, are you working with OSS? Alsa shouldn't have this problem
[03:11] <shoumik> hey lupine what was the comand line to download the java 5 plugin again?
[03:11] <Yodude> ok thks man
[03:12] <shoumik> i had to restart
[03:12] <jahid> jpjacobs, what is OSS?
[03:12] <xNinja> if i did untar a program.tar.gz and compile it/installed it.....and did delete the source dir after installation....how to uninstall it?
[03:12] <lupine_85> apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[03:12] <lupine_85> xNinja: you don't
[03:12] <LjL> lupine_85: so right now the do break, hm, hope not too many people are left clueless with a broken X (well, they should be prepared for that when they install the latest drivers, but you know they mostly aren't)
[03:12] <shoumik> ty
[03:12] <jenda> Quiztime in #ubuntu-trivia!
[03:12] <lupine_85> LjL: http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/
[03:12] <lupine_85> if people would bother to read...
[03:12] <xNinja> lupine_85 ?
[03:12] <LjL> xNinja: recompile, install and then uninstall
[03:12] <lupine_85> I don't do this for my health, you know )
[03:12] <lupine_85> ;)
[03:13] <shoumik> ...
[03:13] <lupine_85> xNinja: what I said. Unless you have a list of all files installed, how do you intend to get rid?
[03:13] <xNinja> LjL how to uninstall.....is there alot of ways ?
[03:13] <LjL> xNinja: aside from "make uninstall", if the developer was so kind to provide that? no
[03:13] <jahid> jpjacobs, i am using Ubuntu 6.10
[03:13] <Mandrill> I want to mount an internal ntfs partition so that its readableand writable on an am64 machine. ubotu's links are not what I'm looking for. the reps I'm pointed at are a) inaccessible b)not for am64 c)for external ntfs devices. can anyone help me? My home network is reliant on being able to read, write and execute the files on these disks.
[03:14] <Slasherx2> can anyone help me out with ndiswrapper please? I have it showing "bcmwl5a         driver installed, hardware present" but it won't find anything when I tell it to scan
[03:14] <cchanc1> How can i make firewall rules permanent
[03:14] <cchanc1> i engage them then when i restart they are gone
[03:14] <shoumik> ty guys the java plugin is up and running
[03:14] <Slike> cchanc1: put them in a startup firewall script, in /etc/init.d
[03:15] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: you dont have anyone that can sort your DNS issue :)
[03:15] <LjL> lupine_85: don't take it personally, i'm just a concerned channel op who's looking at the best way to avoid having a hundred people yell about their broken X... i'm not saying you didn't warn them or anything :)
[03:15] <CaptainMorgan> you think it's a DNS issue?
[03:15] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: make sure youve set the DNS server in the network (if you need it)
[03:15] <Toma-> yeh
[03:15] <lupine_85> LjL: yeah, I know
[03:15] <Mandrill> CaptainMorgan: who is your ISP?
[03:15] <Toma-> maybe.
[03:15] <lupine_85> April...
[03:15] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, comcast?
[03:16] <Mandrill> gimme a sec...
[03:16] <lupine_85> I'm taking it down when feisty goes gold
[03:16] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: youre obviously using a wireless device to connect right?
[03:16] <CaptainMorgan> in linux yes - but if you mean right now - I had no choice but to reboot into Windows
[03:16] <lupine_85> but for now, it's a better solution than hundreds of clueless users making use of the .run file
[03:16] <cchanc1> slike, know the name of the file?
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> Toma-, even after I setup the network config and got it to connect.. I still need to adjust DNS settings??
[03:17] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: i had the same problem. DNS info wasnt getting sent to the WAP from my router and all sorts of rubbish went down. check your router/wap and make sure the DNS is getting sent thru
[03:17] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: in some cases, yes.
[03:17] <LjL> lupine_85: but then when feisty comes out, its drivers will be the latest for a while, but then in a month or so they won't be anymore, and people will resume downloading .run files... ;)
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> anything else you can think before I reboot?
[03:18] <lupine_85> LjL: true, but I won't care at that point :)
[03:18] <Slike> cchanc1: doesn't really matter: you should take the skeleton script, modify it with you firewall rules, give it any name you like, and then you should create a symlink from  /etc/rcS.d  to make it start with the system
[03:18] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: the ssh box was a straight forward IP right?
[03:18] <lupine_85> the only reason I'm doing 9xxx is so we don't need to use Xgl with nvidia
[03:18] <CaptainMorgan> Toma-, indeed
[03:18] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, you still around?
[03:18] <hoagie> is anybody having problems with the nvidia drivers after the kernel-modules upgrade?
[03:18] <lupine_85> if people want even later, on their own head it be :p
[03:18] <Mandrill> yep
[03:18] <Mandrill> just having a hunt for comcasts dns settings
[03:18] <Mandrill> how are you connecting?
[03:18] <cchanc1> slike from or to
[03:19] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, ok, thanks as soon you know, ill be rebooting..
[03:19] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, wireless?
[03:19] <Mandrill> router?
[03:19] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: try http://66.102.7.104 when you get onto the non-DNS resolving box. thatll throw you to google (hopefully)
[03:19] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, yes
[03:19] <LjL> lupine_85: yes, i can see the compiz/beryl role in it. anyway, it's not like the current breakage is hard to work around - when i saw my X didn't start, i rebooted and select the old kernel from GRUB... "surely", everyone who's "experienced" enough to install the latest drivers will know how to do this *g*
[03:19] <CaptainMorgan> Toma-, within the network manager I can infact ping google... fyi..
[03:19] <Toma-> ahh interesting
[03:20] <lupine_85> LjL: indeed :D
[03:20] <CaptainMorgan> but that's probably the ONLY site :(
[03:20] <CaptainMorgan> I tried others
[03:20] <Toma-> maybe you just needed to ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0...
[03:20] <Yodude> Installing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:20] <TheMafia> I am trying to get wifi-radar working and I don't know what to put in wpa driver section.  Everything I try gives me unsupported driver
[03:20] <Yodude> !!!!!!!!!!!!:):-D
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <Slasherx2> rofl
[03:20] <Yodude> O:-)
[03:20] <Hotbird> hello, can someone explain me why if i disable module bcm43xx to install ndiswrapper, then with iwconfig i get no wireless device listed anymore???
[03:20] <Toma-> eeeeasy there Yodude :)
[03:20] <nkbreau> anyone want to reccomend what the best torrent client to run in ubuntu would be ?
[03:20] <hoagie> when will the problem with the kernel-modules will be fixed ?
[03:20] <Mandrill> assuming its the same as a wired router you'll need to set the dns in your router settings (192.168.0.1), Ubuntu gets the dns settings automatically from your router. I had the same problem.
[03:20] <bulmer> CaptainMorgan: you can try telnet ipaddr 80  and should see the headers from the server displayed to you
[03:21] <Slike> cchanc1: linking from /etc/rcS.d to the script you've created in /etc/init.d, the link in /etc/rcS.d should have a name like S27firewall.... S = start, 27 = number in que, firewall = name of the script
[03:21] <Slasherx2> nkbreau: i get wireless under eth1 when i disable that
[03:21] <pbureau> Hotbird, what chipset you using ?
[03:21] <Slike> cchanc1: que should be cue :P
[03:21] <Hotbird> pbureau: bcm4311
[03:21] <Yodude> lol it's just that i had some problems i'm happy they were solved
[03:21] <Toma-> *sigh* only 40 minutes till my ISP uncaps me. :<
[03:21] <Hotbird> pbureau: in a hp pavilion dv6000
[03:22] <Yodude> did i tell you i liked GParted? good graphical interface
[03:22] <pbureau> Hotbird, sorry I dont have a howto on a bcm4311 I have it down pattern for a 4036 sorry mate...
[03:22] <Mandrill> captainmorgan: I can't find DNS settings for comcast anywhere, you may have to phone them and ask.
[03:22] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, alright... tho I am having difficulty understanding what to do exactly based on your last reponse..
[03:22] <Yodude> 59%done
[03:22] <nkbreau> whats the Slasherx2 ??
[03:22] <Hotbird> pbureau: thanks anyways
[03:22] <Toma-> Yodude: it really is. i think its loosely based off partition magic
[03:22] <bulmer> CaptainMorgan: you can try telnet ipaddr 80  and should see the headers from the server displayed to you..as a minimum test you can do
[03:22] <pbureau> Hotbird, but you could try it (I would need to send you email with bcm driver and howto.. you could try it it has worked for a 4318
[03:23] <Toma-> Yodude: once your done, look up "easyubuntu" and STAY AWAY from "automatix".
[03:23] <Mandrill> captainmorgan: open your browser. in the address bar put the address of your router (usually 192.168.0.1)
[03:23] <Yodude> ok
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> bulmer, noted, thank you ;) Im noting these down for when I reboot, so that helps
[03:23] <Hotbird> pbureau: can i give you my email here?
[03:23] <TheMafia> I have tried wpa_supplicant in the driver field but I get unsupported driver
[03:23] <Yodude> but i heard BOTh of them make your system unupgradable
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, yes - that gets me into the router :)
[03:23] <pbureau> Hotbird, if your nick is registered better use /msg
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> after username and pass
[03:23] <Toma-> Yodude: easyubuntu is fine
[03:24] <Toma-> automatix is problematic
[03:24] <Yodude> how many MBs is it? cuz my connection isn';t that wow for downloading
[03:24] <Toma-> less than 1 mb
[03:24] <CaptainMorgan> the router is the same, I think - it's both a wired and wireless capable router
[03:24] <Toma-> but it will download quite a few to install all the "good stuff".
[03:25] <agliv5> Greetings :) ever since I've installed new headders via the ubuntu packages, kqemu isn't working, can anyone help?
[03:25] <yunhual> hello, i like the file format or rfc document, which editor are the use to writer rfc document ?
[03:25] <Yodude> easyubuntu is only 1MB?
[03:25] <Yodude> you're kidding right?
[03:25] <Mandrill> captainmorgan: naturally :) there should be a bunch of settings for your ISP (ecapsulation, etc) you should be able to set your DNS server settings (pref and secondary) in there. As I said Comcast don't publish such info on the net so you may have to phone them to find them out.
[03:25] <cchanc1> !symboliclink
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symboliclink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <maxx18> hey guys is there something going on with the repos? i cant connect to security.ubuntu.com (it times out)
[03:26] <johan_> how can i open an app in a different desktop
[03:26] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: make sue you have the DNS settings set to your router in the network-admin program
[03:26] <LjL> !symlink
[03:26] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:26] <agliv5> yunhual, try gedit or openoffice...
[03:26] <johan_> or how can i specify on which desk to open an app
[03:26] <xtimg> maxx18: I can't connect to it, either
[03:26] <Toma-> maxx18: try a mirror
[03:26] <Mandrill> captainmorgan: another thought. are you running firestarter?
[03:26] <cchanc1> ljl, thanks
[03:26] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, Im not sure.. i didn't look last time
[03:26] <johan_> ,desktop?
[03:27] <johan_> how does the ubuntu bot
[03:27] <johan_> how can i summon the bot on this channel
[03:27] <CaptainMorgan> alright, thanks Mandrill, Toma- and bulmer, time to reboot and try again
[03:27] <johan_> bot?
[03:27] <LjL> !bot > johan_    (johan_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:27] <Toma-> !ubotu
[03:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:28] <Mandrill> captainmorgan: try this first. goto system>admin>firestarter (if its there)
[03:28] <cchanc1> symbolic link is not in !symlink
[03:28] <LjL> cchanc1: well what do you need to know
[03:28] <cchanc1> how to create a symbolic link
[03:28] <Toma-> cchanc1: ln -s
[03:28] <LjL> cchanc1: ln -s targetfile linkname
[03:28] <LjL> cchanc1: "man ln" surely helps
[03:29] <johan_> !ubotu desktop
[03:29] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[03:29] <LjL> !msg the bot
[03:29] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:29] <johan_> i dont get it
[03:29] <johan_> !bob
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <LjL> !msg the bot | johan_
[03:29] <ubotu> johan_: please see above
[03:29] <johan_> i got it
[03:29] <twager> I am going to upgrade from 6.1 to Feisty..Should I use apt aptitude or synaptic ?
[03:29] <wimdows> hi peeps
[03:29] <LjL> twager: you shouldn't upgrade, in all likelyhood
[03:29] <ruben> como pedo aser funcionar el amsn  lo instale pero  no me  arranca  si alguien puede  desir  que  pasa  porfavor  estoy tratando como 2  semanas
[03:29] <LjL> !feisty > twager    (twager, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:30] <LjL> !es | ruben
[03:30] <ubotu> ruben: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:30] <johan_> how do you specify the desktop where to open an application
[03:30] <Mandrill> captainmorgan: if its not then you're not running it. if it is go to policy and switch to outbound traffic policy in the drop down and set it to blacklist if it isn't already.
[03:30] <johan_> !desktop
[03:30] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[03:30] <wimdows> where can I edit the order of my startup programs for a session?
[03:30] <Toma-> Mandrill: hes gone :)
[03:30] <LjL> johan_, *message the bot privately*
[03:31] <wimdows> what file do I need to edit for that?
[03:31] <johan_> sorry bout that
[03:31] <Mandrill> oh well
[03:31] <wimdows> the UI to this file is: System, Preferences, Sessions, and then Startup Programs tab
[03:31] <dwhsix> when I update, I keep having packages 'held back' now: The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[03:31] <dwhsix> do I need to worry about this?
[03:31] <wimdows> but where can I find the underlying file and change the startup order?
[03:32] <Mandrill> I was having connection problems earlier on and spent about an hour ttrying various things and it turned out I had my firewall set to restrict everything.
[03:32] <wimdows> hit xtknight
[03:32] <wimdows> hi even
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> omg Toma-, Mandrill, I rebooted and did NOTHING, now Im able to connect..? wtf? btw- my DNS settings did point to the router 192.168.1.1
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> Im officially stumped
[03:32] <_Jaak_> what else besides nvidia driver will stop working with the new kernel that i should keep in mind?!
[03:32] <LjL> johan_: i don't know and i can't find that information on the wiki. on KDE however, that's achieve by right clicking on a window title - there you have options for specific window settings. try it, perhaps it's similar in GNOME.
[03:33] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: thats because you just reset your network settings with the boot
[03:33] <Toma-> i told you, ifdown && ifup :)
[03:33] <LjL> _Jaak_: i don't know, but possibly vmware player, since that's already happened in the past. haven't checked it out, though
[03:33] <CaptainMorgan> ifdown and ifup are equivalent to a reboot? so if I runs those commands I would save time
[03:33] <Mandrill> captainmorgan: you didn't sacrifice a chicken or anything? :D
[03:33] <johan_> i use flux and its apparently just like kde thanks LjL
[03:34] <LjL> _Jaak_: at any rate, you can always boot the old kernel from GRUB, in any event
[03:34] <CaptainMorgan> Mandrill, :)
[03:34] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: no, it will restart your network card+settings, effectivly applying all those changes
[03:34] <Mandrill> I want to mount an internal ntfs partition so that its readableand writable on an am64 machine. ubotu's links are not what I'm looking for. the reps I'm pointed at are a) inaccessible b)not for am64 c)for external ntfs devices. can anyone help me? My home network is reliant on being able to read, write and execute the files on these disks.
[03:34] <amoun> Hi I have a CD with Kubuntu. Is it possible to extract the KDE gui. I find I can't handle the font rendering in Ubuntu and wonder if the KDE is better for me
[03:35] <LjL> Mandrill: you say *network*? meaning those NTFS filesystems are not on the Ubuntu machine itself?
[03:35] <_Jaak_> LjL, glad i am not using vmware, but stuff like Lirc has to recompilled, but that's no hell, wifi? Yes, using old kernel.... grom, if it's new i want it! lol =D
[03:35] <wimdows> amoun - what's wrong with the font rendering?
[03:35] <Toma-> Mandrill: sounds like you need ntfs-fuse or whatever it is
[03:35] <protocol1> is there a way to get my machine to boot from an older kernel without having to hit escape after reboot?
[03:35] <johan_> amoun?
[03:35] <LjL> protocol1: yes, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and chance your preferences there
[03:36] <Mandrill> LjL: yes they are on the ubuntu machine but I need to be able to read and write to them from anywhere on the network
[03:36] <protocol1> the reason is I am using ssh to control this machine
[03:36] <wimdows> Check out System, Preferences, Font - and play around with the settings
[03:36] <LjL> protocol1: you can tell it to have the menu shown by default, without pressing Escape, with or without a timeout, and/or select a different default kernel from the current one
[03:36] <wimdows> Don't think changing your window manager to KDE is going to do the trick
[03:36] <mjr> protocol1, LjL is correct, but also you can just use grub-reboot to boot into a spesified entry
[03:36] <amoun> wimdows thanks. I can't get a clean and tidy font. The best I can get is with antialiasing type which makes it a but fuzzy
[03:36] <protocol1> LjL, ok
[03:36] <dimitri_> has anybody here used gnubox?
[03:36] <Mandrill> !fuse | mandrill
[03:36] <mjr> protocol1, but edit the conf file if you want a more permanent solution
[03:37] <wimdows> amoun - you using an LCD?
[03:37] <wimdows> And you're sure it's running at its native resolution?
[03:37] <protocol1> mjr, which is the /boot/grub.menu.lst right
[03:37] <protocol1> mjr, which is the /boot/grub/menu.lst right*
[03:37] <mjr> yes
[03:37] <protocol1> ok
[03:38] <amoun> yeap. In windows it'always fine no mater what font or size. The only time I have problems in windows is if I have the desktop size different that the real pixel size (1024 x 768)
[03:39] <amoun> yeap running in native (1024 x768)
[03:40] <wimdows> amoun - strange...have you also tried the detailed rendering settings in font?
[03:40] <protocol1> mjr, ok im in there via nano......
[03:40] <wimdows> and tried different fonts too?
[03:40] <bobbob1016> Does anyone know why a HD would be unformatable, even when I try to format it from the live CD, so it isn't mounted?
[03:40] <PingunZ> Hey, I'm having troubles with frostwire ... I installed and selected the right java, installed frostwire without any errors but when I start frostwire I just get a blank window
[03:40] <protocol1> do I just change it by what order it is in?
[03:40] <Mandrill> LjL: right Fuse is installed. I already have the drives mounted and visible from the other machines do I have to unmount them and remount them using fuse to make them writable?
[03:40] <johan_> can i run ps -e so that it is continuously updated
[03:41] <amoun> hmm font - details : options monochrome, greyscale etc. The greyscale is the best but I don't use any in windows
[03:41] <Lynoure> johan_: yes, you can use  watch  for that
[03:41] <Lynoure> johan_: see  man watch
[03:41] <agliv5> Can anyone help me out with problems that I'm having with the new linux headders?
[03:42] <johan_> thanks
[03:42] <coNP> !ask | agliv5
[03:42] <ubotu> agliv5: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[03:42] <mateuszk> Hi
[03:42] <johan_> is watch like top?
[03:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> !java
[03:42] <amoun> oh bye the way wimdows - I'm using windows at the moment as I haven't managed to set up my modem on ubuntu yet so I can check as I message
[03:42] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:43] <nkbreau> is there anything i can run in ubuntu edgy that will show me my wireless connection strength ?
[03:43] <nkbreau> and show me local visible ssid's ?
[03:43] <wimdows> amoun - what about hinting greyscale and smoothing full?
[03:43] <mateuszk> How to make blender working on full screen?? I dont want to see gnome-panels when I am using it... Any help ?
[03:44] <bobbob1016> nkbreau:  Install network-manager-gnome
[03:44] <amoun> yeap that what I do but it's the fuzzy bit I want rud of. It must be the way fonts are interpreted bu ubuntu that's why I thought the KDE may be different
[03:44] <bobbob1016> nkbreau: so long as your wifi is working, it SHOULD show you your open wifi spots, it works on my laptop
[03:44] <ardchoille> mateuszk: Full screen mode should overlap the panel.
[03:44] <mateuszk> ardchoille, it doesnt
[03:45] <protocol1> mjr, i just deleted the kernels in that file that I didnt want
[03:45] <mateuszk> archangelpetro, i installed blender and I still see gnome-panels :(
[03:45] <ardchoille> mateuszk: Then you should file a bug. Full screen means full screen.
[03:45] <wimdows> amoun - that's what anti-aliased fonts look like, similar in windows...
[03:45] <wimdows> have you got anti-aliasing enabled in windows?
[03:45] <mateuszk> ardchoille, blender is by deault in full screen isnt it?
[03:45] <ardchoille> mateuszk: You can set the panel to autohide, that should help.
[03:45] <ardchoille> mateuszk: Nope
[03:45] <erUSUL> mateuszk: use the full screen mode of blender
[03:45] <amoun> no not in windows and its fine
[03:46] <mateuszk> ardchoille, where to set it ?
[03:46] <ardchoille> mateuszk: The panel autohide?
[03:46] <amoun> i'll leave it for now. thanks wimdows
[03:46] <erUSUL> mateuszk: in fact the menu in my system runs blender in full screen mode by default
[03:46] <ardchoille> mateuszk: I haven't used blender in several months
[03:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> how do i make my aptitude search my cdrom first for the packages, rather than going to the internet! cuz i have them on my install disc!!! can anybody help me plz?
[03:46] <mateuszk> archangelpetro, no, blenders full screen mode. Autohide is for all applications and its anying.. I would like to have only blender in that mode
[03:46] <wimdows> amoun - ok, no prob
[03:47] <agliv5> coNP, I did about 5 times and no one answered, so I thought I would be less specific...
[03:47] <wimdows> ok so who knows how to change startup program order? what file should I be editing?
[03:47] <gOLdenHaWK3D> how do i make my aptitude search my cdrom first for the packages, rather than going to the internet! cuz i have them on my install disc!!! can anybody help me plz? I have used the "apt-cdrom add". But i think apt-get is again searching internet!!!
[03:48] <mateuszk> erUSUL, --help doesnt show any options for that
[03:48] <LjL> Mandrill: i think so, if you didn't remount them under fuse they'll still be using the standard quasi-read-only driver, for sure.
[03:48] <protocol1> is there a command I can use to keep my machine from updating its kernel?
[03:48] <mateuszk> erUSUL, on debian on my PC it does run in fullscreen mode as default...
[03:49] <protocol1> I dont want my kernel to update
[03:49] <erUSUL> mateuszk: well i have just checked and to run blender windowed you have too run it with the -w switch without it it runs in full screen
[03:49] <protocol1> so is there anything I can do to stop it?
[03:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> how do i make my aptitude search my cdrom first for the packages, rather than going to the internet! cuz i have them on my install disc!!! can anybody help me plz? I have used the "apt-cdrom add". But i think apt-get is again searching internet!!!
[03:49] <LjL> protocol1: hold the linux-image package, i suppose. never tried though
[03:49] <LjL> !pinning > protocol1    (protocol1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:50] <erUSUL> mateuszk: mine runs in full screen as default (i'm in edgy) maybe editing the menu entry you can quit the - w switch
[03:50] <LjL> gOLdenHaWK3D: if you have the Desktop CD, i don't think packages can be got from it. you need the Alternate CD for that
[03:50] <enyc> Erm... in Ubuntu-edgy the capslock light is known not to work on the console (all edgy machines seemingly).. but the caps behaviour is different... it activates shifted-symbols (not normal)....  Is this behaviour intentional?  is the caps-led fixed for feisty?
[03:50] <gOLdenHaWK3D> LjL, I have the alternate disc!
[03:51] <mateuszk> erUSUL, ok when using -w I see a window borders around it.. but from menu I dont see them.. so no -w option by default.. But i see gnome-panels :(
[03:51] <hadron> can I move from ubuntu to a stable debian and still maintain my home directory as is?
[03:51] <LjL> gOLdenHaWK3D: in that case "sudo apt-cdrom add", with the CD in the drive, is definitely supposed to work. look at your /etc/apt/sources.list after doing that, does it not contain a line referring to the CD?
[03:51] <mateuszk> hadron, I dont think so
[03:51] <erUSUL> mateuszk: if that's the case i do not know what to do....
[03:51] <gOLdenHaWK3D> LjL, It does contain the cdrom line! but will it work?
[03:52] <Kristov`> you just have to leave the /home directory untouched
[03:52] <mateuszk> hadron, debian stable have old packages
[03:52] <Limbo> hey i heard that the linux kernel 2.6.20 had drivers for bmc43xx wireless, i'm using kernel 2.6.20 and still my wifi doesnt seem to work
[03:52] <Limbo> do i need to do something to enable it?
[03:52] <Kristov`> and then add it to your fstab if it isn't inside
[03:52] <bobbob1016> gOLdenHaWK3d, two things first, first, exclamation points don't help you get noticed, and second, go into your software sources through system->administration->Software Sources, then select the Third Party tab, and click Add CdRom
[03:52] <hadron> what about moving from edgy back to a stable maintained version of ubuntu? edgy is simply too buggy.
[03:52] <HLinus> hello, where can i find simple source.list, becosue the default one doses not work
[03:52] <LjL> gOLdenHaWK3D: it should. do a "sudo apt-get update". however, keep in mind that many packages will have been updated, compared to what's in the CD, and thus they'll be downloaded from the 'net anyway. that's quite normal and good - you don't normally want the old unpatched versions
[03:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> bobbob1016, ok. thanx
[03:52] <erUSUL> hadron: downgrade is not supported you can always reinstall
[03:53] <mateuszk> erUSUL, a problem with openGL i think
[03:53] <hadron> yeah, I suppose so.
[03:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> LjL, u r right! thanx to you both!
[03:53] <hadron> but will edgy "move to" a stable version?
[03:53] <mateuszk> erUSUL, I installed for testing bzflag game and it cause error X Error of failed request:  BadValue
[03:53] <LjL> hadron: ...? edgy *is* a stable release
[03:53] <erUSUL> hadron: edgy *is* the stable version
[03:53] <Mandrill> LjL: One down, won't let me unmount the other, says its busy.
[03:53] <agrei1> I have a quesion on dpkg-scanpackages: how can I use it to generate the various translation files. I want to let ut create the Translation-de file. Any Ideas?
[03:54] <LjL> Mandrill: then it probably is ;-) make sure 1) no machine is using files from it 2) you don't have consoles or filebrowser windows open in a directory of it
[03:54] <bettyboop1975>  lol
[03:55] <Mandrill> LjL: done, still had my windows machine looking at it *doh*.
[03:55] <hadron> edgy is not a stable release
[03:55] <hadron> edgy is "edgy"
[03:55] <AMAG> Hey, LjL; I was finally able to install ubuntu onto my 3ware array :)
[03:55] <LjL> !edgy | hadron
[03:55] <ubotu> hadron: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:55] <LjL> !netsplit
[03:55] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[03:55] <LjL> !lts | hadron
[03:55] <ubotu> hadron: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:55] <bobbob1016> gOLden: then to stop ALL the internet stuff, click the Ubuntu tab in the Software Sources program and uncheck everything there (I think this is what you should do), uncheck everything in Third Party too, except the CD, and close the window.  It should ask you to reload the sources, if it doesn't just type "sudo apt-get update" in the command line, then install your programs.  IF THIS DOESN'T WORK just recheck the sources
[03:55] <bobbob1016> you unchecked, and reload again.
[03:56] <LjL> hadron: Edgy is not LTS, but that doesn't mean it's not a stable release. it's released. Feisty is the unstable one.
[03:56] <hadron> edgy is not lts
[03:56] <LjL> hadron: right. LTS means Long Term Support, it doesn't mean "stable"
[03:56] <hadron> hmm. i find edgy a little buggy to be honest. lots of usb issues in the move to the new inti stuff
[03:56] <hadron> inti->init
[03:57] <LjL> hadron: it might be buggy - you're not the first i see saying it is, though it's quite good for me - but that's just the way it came out... perhaps it was a bit rushed out, if i may say. but it's not *intended* as a testing/unstable version, such as Feisty is. it's a release with the same dignity as any other release.
[03:58] <LjL> except for the LTS part, that is. but Dapper will be the only LTS one for some time
[03:58] <wimdows> hey guys so who knows how to change startup program order? what file should I be editing?
[03:58] <nkbreau> bobbob1016: i have an app called NetworkManager that came on ubuntu, is that the same thing ?
[03:59] <Toma-> wimdows: just use the Sessions program from Preferences
[03:59] <wimdows> Toma- doesn't let you change the order...
[03:59] <bobbob1016> nkbreau:  No, NetworkManager and network-manager-gnome are different
[03:59] <Toma-> sure it does
[03:59] <wimdows> How?
[04:00] <fil_> 6v6 et now hve server pm me
[04:00] <Toma-> let me see....
[04:00] <wimdows> I don't see an up and down button...?
[04:00] <Drakeson> assume I have a set of packages installed. how can I find a "minimum" set of packages to reproduce this set (through dependencies)?
[04:00] <wimdows> It should have one for sure
[04:00] <wimdows> But it doesnt
[04:00] <HLinus> apt-upadte does not work, where to find proper sources.list?
[04:01] <LjL> Drakeson: interesting question... sounds like an NP problem by the sound of it :P but, no, probably not. maybe something can be done with clever use of "apt-cache rdepends"
[04:01] <Toma-> wimdows: im on e17 at the moment so i cant check... pretty sure you edit the numbers on the left of the boxes
[04:01] <rgl> is there a way to dist-upgrade but exluding some packages?  like, I don't want to download openoffice
[04:01] <wimdows> Toma- there are no number to the left of the boxes
[04:01] <HLinus> # Automatically generated sources.list
[04:01] <HLinus> # http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[04:01] <Toma-> hmm ok
[04:01] <HLinus> this does not work too
[04:02] <wimdows> All you do is add, edit, delete or disable entries
[04:02] <kyncani> Drakeson: debfoster
[04:02] <jrib> HLinus: what errros are you getting?
[04:02] <swampmallard> Is there a channel for discussing Ubuntu for scientific computing?
[04:02] <HLinus> # Automatically generated sources.list
[04:02] <HLinus> sorry
[04:02] <Mr680x0> can someone help me?
[04:02] <bobbob1016> nkbreau: you might have to enable the universe or multiverse repos if you can't find the network-manager-gnome package
[04:02] <HLinus> root@tom-laptop:/etc/apt# apt-get update
[04:02] <HLinus> Bd http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg Nie udao si poczy z security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), przekroczenie czasu poczenia
[04:03] <HLinus> Bd http://de.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[04:03] <jrib> !paste | HLinus
[04:03] <ubotu> HLinus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <Mr680x0> I just installed Ubuntu on my Dell Latitude C800 and the screen is messed up
[04:03] <Toma-> ewwww
[04:03] <Mr680x0> can anyone help me?
[04:03] <yaman> need help (still working on drivers from 3 days :P)  i need to make my asus built in camera work but i can't i read some tutorials and it's all tell to download the m560x linux driver but the package is not on the sourceforge site any more any help ?
[04:03] <AMAG> Time to buy a laptop with an nvidia chipset?
[04:03] <jrib> HLinus: pastebin the result of:  LANGUAGE=en_US sudo apt-get update; cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:03] <pascal_> but!!! You can read this!
[04:03] <Mr680x0> I'm on another computer
[04:04] <pascal_> \ow sow
[04:04] <philip_> Hi everyone I have a question but don't want to interupt.
[04:04] <Mr680x0> there's nothing I can do about the display problem?
[04:04] <pascal_> i would like to help everybody but iam en newby to
[04:04] <Mr680x0> the middle is mirroring the right side of the display
[04:04] <bobbob1016> Mr680x0:  You have to wait for a response
[04:05] <Mr680x0> what do you mean?
[04:05] <yaman> help please yaman [04:05] <hjmills> hey - i b0rked my server when it went down in a power cut and running fsck doesn't seem to be able to fix /dev/hda3
[04:05] <Draconicus> Alright, I've got a friend who insists on using Edgy because it's the latest version. Can somebody tell me, if he doesn't care about the tech support included with Edgy, is it better to go with Dapper or Edgy for functionality?
[04:05] <bobbob1016> Mr680x0: There are others who are getting help, and you can't assume that no one is answering you just because you don't get answered RIGHT away
[04:05] <HLinus> jrib: i think i can not paste the result, as i get "connectiong to security.ubuntu.com", which hangs
[04:05] <hjmills> yaman, google for "m560x"?
[04:05] <jahid> hi, when i am playing any of the music player, my sound card dont play sound from other softwares. like from amsn
[04:06] <marnanel> what do I use to get the actual core dump binary file out of a .crash file, please?
[04:06] <jahid> can anyone help me abt that?
[04:06] <bobbob1016> Mr680x0: As I was about to say, when you boot it up, you should see a "press esc to see more options" or something like that
[04:06] <jrib> HLinus: it will time out.  If it doesn't just pastebin your sources.list and as much of the error as you do get
[04:06] <yaman> hjmills : i did already every thing i got is broken links
[04:06] <Mr680x0> oh
[04:06] <Mr680x0> I'll try that
[04:06] <bobbob1016> Mr680x0: Do that, and select recovery mode
[04:06] <hjmills> yaman, check google cached files then
[04:06] <HLinus> jrib: Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[04:07] <HLinus> jrib: i get those from your command
[04:07] <bobbob1016> Mr680x0: then when recovery mode loads all the way, you have to type this command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" without the quotes, and then type your password
[04:07] <wimdows> Toma- no other suggestions then for the startup order?
[04:07] <Mandrill> Ljl: did it the easy way and removed the lines mounting the drives from my fstab. now they are no longer mounted automatically on boot. :)
[04:07] <marnanel> I have a .crash file, and it has the core dump encoded in it. I suppose I could write a program to take it out, but I assume there's something already existing.
[04:07] <HLinus> jrib: Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[04:08] <HLinus> jrib: Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[04:08] <tanq> is there a gui front end for iptables available in adept?
[04:08] <fil_> 6v6 et now hve server pm me
[04:08] <jrib> HLinus: pastebin
[04:08] <aldyrin> how do I set the .torrent extension to be handled by azureus?
[04:08] <HLinus> jrib: pastebin - dont know that is is
[04:08] <Trentster> Hey all, Edgy is really starting to get me down, I have a core 2 , and  I have to have the kernel-generic for dual core support and power management etc.... I get everything working, then I install updates and it pulls down updates for kernel-386 which breaks my nvidia glx amongst other things, is there not intelligence built into the system where it will try and only download updates that match the running kernel...?some
[04:08] <jrib> !pastebin | HLinus
[04:08] <ubotu> HLinus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:08] <kmon> Hi. How do i defrag a fat usb hd under linux
[04:08] <bobbob1016> Mr680x0: then follow the steps it asks for.  What this does is tells Ubuntu or any linux for that matter, to reconfigure the way it displays on the screen.  This mode only works with the keyboard, use Tab to move between sections on the screen, space to select a check box or next or back button.
[04:08] <Draconicus> This is important, guys. He thinks I'm calling him an idiot and won't listen to me, even though he's having all sorts of problems with Edgy that probably wouldn't happen in Dapper!
[04:09] <LjL> kyncani: debfoster can do that? how?
[04:09] <HLinus> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5057/
[04:09] <MonkeyINAbaG> hmm... if i have to manually edit /var/lib/dpkg/available to change a line with some bad characters in it 20,000 lines down... wtf went wrong? :)
[04:10] <agliv5> trying to compile kqemu from the hompage and I'm getting the following error when I try to run make : "WARNING: could not find /Daten/Temp/kqemu-1.3.0pre11/.kqemu-mod.o.cmd for /Daten/Temp/kqemu-1.3.0pre11/kqemu-mod.o" what's up with that?
[04:10] <Drakeson> kyncani: thanks.
[04:10] <agliv5> In general, is it better to download from the hompage or from sourceforge?
[04:10] <jrib> HLinus: one line:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list && LANGUAGE=en_US apt-get update
[04:10] <LjL> agliv5: in general it's better to download from our repositories
[04:10] <Linkmasta23> lol no ones on i guess ill have to play bots (game)
[04:10] <Drakeson> well, it says it (debfoster) is deprecated
[04:11] <kyncani> LjL: by using it and calling debfoster -a
[04:11] <Linkmasta23> whoops wrong area
[04:11] <Katja_Cynamonowa> Hello
[04:11] <HLinus> jrib: i try to tell you that thet the update will hang
[04:11] <jrib> HLinus: I'm trying to read what it says, I don't understand that language
[04:11] <HLinus> jrib: oh
[04:11] <HLinus> jrib: ok
[04:12] <LjL> kyncani, but i thought running debfoster required quite a bit of manual interaction
[04:12] <hjmills> any ideas about how to rescue a b0rked partition when fsck doesn't like it?
[04:12] <jrib> security.ubuntu.com seems to hang here on apt-get update as well.  Can anyone else confirm?
[04:12] <HLinus> jrib: but in pasebin it is in english...
[04:12] <Mr680x0> bobbob1016: I did that and I'm back in Recovery Mode
[04:12] <nkbreau> bobbob1016: it says its already installed when i do an apt-get, but there doesnt seem to be a command of the simillar name to run it
[04:12] <kmon> Hi. How do i defrag a fat usb hd under linux?
[04:12] <jahid> hi, how can i install webcam?
[04:12] <jrib> HLinus: "Nie uda?o si? po??czy? z security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), przekroczenie czasu po??czenia"
[04:12] <mikeo> anyone having problems  loading http://www.digg.com ?
[04:12] <Mr680x0> how do I continue booting, bobbob1016?
[04:12] <jrib> !webcam | jahid
[04:12] <ubotu> jahid: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:12] <HLinus> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5058/
[04:12] <kyncani> LjL: yep using it *and then* calling debfoster -a  or alternatively using deborphans i think
[04:12] <Draconicus> ------Is there a channel where I can talk to people more willing to help experienced users that are stuck on unusual problems that aren't solved simply by quoting a page somewhere on the Ubuntu sites?
[04:13] <LjL> kyncani: you mean using it and marking everything as "keep"?
[04:13] <jrib> HLinus: security.ubuntu.com is timing out for me too
[04:13] <lordkeiden> is there a way to load a driver for a wifi card so i don't have to reboot inorder to use the card?
[04:13] <mikeo> is www.digg.com timing out for anyone?
[04:13] <kyncani> LjL: nope, first remove orphans, then show keepers with -a option
[04:13] <jrib> mikeo: no
[04:14] <mikeo> hmmmm think something is going on with the dns servers
[04:14] <GeekChick|U> How do I disable the damn PC speaker beap from BIOS speaker everytime the gnome shell gets a tab complete it doesn't like. It's extremely annoying. In Windows it uses the computer speakers, in Ubuntu it uses the BIOS beeps. :(
[04:14] <mikeo> cause digg dont work, but slashdot does
[04:14] <mikeo> engadget does too
[04:14] <Wooksta> i've got an epson cx5400 all in one printer / scanner, i can get it printing fine from my edgy system but i'm not sure how to get the scanning working, can anyone help or point out a good tutorial? :)
[04:14] <jrib> mikeo: well I think 2 were down earlier this week after being attacked
[04:14] <agreif> How can I create the Translation-xx files in a debian repository?
[04:14] <mikeo> i think an attack is probably going on right now
[04:14] <GeekChick|U> mikeo: Digg works just fine. Snappy too.
[04:14] <hjmills> Wooksta, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2133903
[04:15] <HLinus> jrib: everything generate that that damin tool gangs
[04:15] <HLinus> jrib: hangs
[04:15] <hjmills> Wooksta, thats for a slightly newer multifunction but the basics should help
[04:15] <mikeo> while the one im going through must be down or something
[04:15] <jrib> HLinus: it seems to be  a server-side issue
[04:15] <hjmills> any ideas about how to rescue a b0rked partition when fsck doesn't like it?
[04:15] <GeekChick|U> mikeo: want digg's ip address so you can add them to hosts?
[04:15] <Wooksta> hjmills, thanks :)
[04:15] <mikeo> sure
[04:15] <mikeo> that would be great
[04:15] <SammyF> hey there ... how can I recompile fglrx for the current core (and do I need to recompile it at all?)
[04:15] <HLinus> jrib: oh
[04:16] <GeekChick|U> mikeo: 64.191.203.30
[04:16] <agliv5> LjL, kqemu is not in the repositories...
[04:16] <viller> hi what command can I use to find out my IP address?
[04:16] <HLinus> jrib: ok, i will try the other day, possibly with some assistance... thanks and take care
[04:16] <SammyF> fglrx stopped working after the update earlier today (to -11) .. it still works fine in -10
[04:16] <mikeo> viller ifconfig
[04:16] <Draconicus> Pardon the caps, but I need attention for this one: WHO is IN CHARGE of managing UBUNTU IRC SUPPORT CHANNELS?
[04:17] <GeekChick|U> How do I disable the damn PC speaker beap from BIOS speaker everytime the gnome shell gets a tab complete it doesn't like. It's extremely annoying. In Windows it uses the computer speakers, in Ubuntu it uses the BIOS beeps. :(
[04:17] <hjmills> Wooksta, you will need to replace the stuff about "0x4b8 0x813" with whatever the stuff is for your scanner (find it with lsusb)
[04:17] <jrib> Draconicus: please don't use caps.  try #ubuntu-ops
[04:17] <crimsun> Draconicus: the irc ops team.
[04:17] <Draconicus> jrib, crimsun: Thanks.
[04:17] <LjL> Drakeson, kyncani: i'd say that "debfoster -q -k keepers-list ; debfoster -a -k keepers-list" seems to work, though i cannot be totally sure it's really listing all the packages that are installed on my system
[04:17] <niyi> i hate xgl
[04:17] <hjmills> niyi, then use aiglx?
[04:17] <Wooksta> np :)
[04:17] <niyi> no... it just that it refuses to download compuiz
[04:17] <mikeo> aiglx is the greatest... just get an nvidia card
[04:17] <niyi> on the terminal
[04:18] <hjmills> niyi, use beryl?
[04:18] <LjL> agliv5: ah right, it's only in feisty
[04:18] <mikeo> beryl is better then compiz...
[04:18] <niyi> k
[04:18] <niyi> i'll give beryl a spin
[04:18] <niyi> hopfully the downlaod will work unlike compuiz
[04:18] <agliv5> LjL, so what can I do to fix the problems that I'm having?
[04:18] <mikeo> compiz is outdated
[04:19] <GeekChick|U> How do I disable the damn PC speaker beap from BIOS speaker everytime the gnome shell gets a tab complete it doesn't like. It's extremely annoying. In Windows it uses the computer speakers, in Ubuntu it uses the BIOS beeps. :(
[04:19] <Mr680x0> Failed to start the X server :/
[04:19] <lordkeiden> is there a way to load a driver for a wifi card so i don't have to reboot inorder to use the card?
[04:20] <LjL> dunno agliv5, the kqemu wiki page was totally changed... i wrote it originally, but now i can't find anything of what i wrote anymore, and it points to an awfully complicated howto on the forums for compiling kqemu. *shrug*
[04:20] <viller> is there a command to test if a port is open?
[04:20] <LjL> !nmap | viller
[04:20] <ubotu> viller: nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[04:20] <niyi> hate being a n00b... but i only jsut jumped ship to linux
[04:20] <AMAG> Hrm, evolution fails at life, and crashes on starting after importing data from my previous version of evolution.  :-(
[04:20] <Nickname> hi all
[04:21] <stonarmusic> hello
[04:21] <Mr680x0> what's the default login nazme for Ubuntu?
[04:21] <Drakeson> LjL: nice. (the second command is not needed, though. the keepers-list file is exactly what I need)
[04:21] <Nickname> i want to convert from .doc to postscript file anyone can help?
[04:21] <Mr680x0> *name
[04:21] <drayen> ok, panicing a bit right now - i just upgraded to the new kernel and it's messed everything up - i cant boot into any kernel version now - both give me a 'error 15: file not found' .... help!
[04:21] <SammyF> anybody about fglrx not working anymore after the last update?
[04:21] <unop> Nickname,  you got openoffice writer?
[04:21] <Nickname> unop yes i got it
[04:21] <Wooksta> hjmills, any idea why i would get "bash: /etc/sane.d/epson.conf: Permission denied" when doing "sudo echo "usb 0x04b8 0x0801" >> /etc/sane.d/epson.conf"?
[04:22] <Music_Shuffle> Nickname, open the file in that and resave?
[04:22] <hjmills> Wooksta, check that file exists first and then check the ownership
[04:22] <Nickname> resave in what file extention??
[04:22] <agliv5> LjL, how can it be that when running make it says that a file from the unpacked archive is missing???
[04:22] <LjL> Drakeson: right... all that "-a" does is list the contents of it :-) thank kyncani anyway - i had thought about debfoster myself for a minute, but i had dismissed it right away without looking at the manpage, and was trying to tinker with apt-cache rdepends (most likely a dead end) instead
[04:22] <Nickname> any?
[04:22] <unop> Nickname,  ok, what you could do is save the file as .pdf and then convert it to .ps using pdf2ps
[04:22] <Music_Shuffle> Nickname, there's one labelled as such.
[04:22] <hbaigu> GeekChick|U: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315217
[04:23] <hjmills> Wooksta, oh wait - do a "sudo su" then run "echo blah >> blah"
[04:23] <LjL> agliv5: well, is it missing or not if you check manually?
[04:23] <Nickname> Music_Shuffle,  i dont have it listed
[04:23] <Nickname> unop,  i give it a  try thanks
[04:23] <Wooksta> hjmills ok thanks :) i'll try that
[04:23] <Drakeson> kyncani: yeah, thanks.
[04:23] <viller> LjL: and how does nmap help me? How to use it?
[04:23] <unop> Nickname,  errm, check if oowriter has the capability to save as .ps (i dont think so ..)
[04:24] <LjL> viller: nmap -p <portnumber> <hostname>
[04:24] <Drakeson> LjL: now my next step is to create a live-cd using make-live ... ;)
[04:24] <drayen> Anyone else been unable to boot into ubuntu after the latest kernel upgrade?
[04:24] <Nickname> unop, not it does'nt have
[04:25] <Nickname> no
[04:25] <SammyF> drayen: nope ... just fglrx not starting in 2.6.17-11
[04:25] <unop> Nickname,  ok, export the file to .pdf and use pdf2ps then
[04:25] <Mr680x0> now that I reconfigured the xserver, what do I type?
[04:25] <LjL> drayen: if you have unofficial nvidia drivers installed, yeah
[04:25] <unop> Nickname,  out of curiousity, why postscript?
[04:25] <Wooksta> hjmills, okay tried that but getting "No scanners were identified..." when i try to do scanimage -L as myself or as root
[04:25] <Mr680x0> I want to continue booting
[04:26] <Nickname> i have to send a fax from efax-gtk it only accept postscript files
[04:26] <viller> LjL: could you give me an example of a port that should be open
[04:26] <niyi> so what's the differnce between beryl and compuiz
[04:27] <mikeo> beryl is a fork of compiz
[04:27] <soundray> niyi: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[04:27] <Mr680x0> what's the default login name???
[04:27] <niyi> k
[04:27] <mikeo> compiz wasn't being developed fast enough, so it split into beryl
[04:27] <Music_Shuffle> Mr680x0, whatever you created during your install?
[04:27] <Drakeson> cool! just found goodbye-microsoft.com ...
[04:27] <jrib> Mr680x0: for the live cd?
[04:27] <hbaigu> Nickname, choose to print what you want, and choose to print to a postscript file
[04:27] <Mr680x0> fro the Alternate install CD
[04:27] <Mr680x0> I don't recall choosinbg a username
[04:27] <jrib> Mr680x0: you create a user during install
[04:27] <agliv5> LjL, it's looking for .kqemu-mod.o.cmd in the unpacked archive dir and it's not there?  let me pastebin my make command so you can see what I'm talking about...
[04:28] <SammyF> LjL: just a short yes or no : should I recompile fglrx for the 2.6.17-11 kernel or is there any workaround?
[04:28] <Mr680x0> how can I reset it then?
[04:28] <LjL> SammyF: i have nvidia, no clue about ati
[04:28] <jrib> Mr680x0: did you setup any kind of password at any point?
[04:28] <Mr680x0> yes
[04:28] <SammyF> LjL: thanks :)
[04:28] <Mr680x0> I know what the password is
[04:28] <jrib> Mr680x0: was it for root?
[04:28] <Mr680x0> uh
[04:28] <Mr680x0> I tried typing root for the login name
[04:29] <akphe1> Has anybody tried installing ubuntu on a computer with multiple monitors? I have two cards and two monitors, but each time i try to install ubuntu it crashes ... if i'm lucky it gets all fuzzy and unreadable ... this even happens when I try installing it on a virtual computer ..... is it just cause of the hardware config ?
[04:29] <drayen> What do you do when all the Grub options (other than windows) give you a 'Error 15: File not found' after the latest kernel upgrade??
[04:29] <SammyF> akphe1: what gfx card do you have?
[04:29] <jrib> Mr680x0: reboot and choose "recovery mode".  This command should return info for the first user created: getent passwd 1000
[04:29] <Yancho> how can i work around a configure of a tar if it is telling me : checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no - i have a newer verison
[04:29] <SammyF> akphe1: at least one of the two should show the right picture
[04:29] <agliv5> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5061/
[04:30] <akphe1> two nvidias ... 7300 and 5200
[04:30] <jrib> Yancho: what are you trying to compile?
[04:30] <SammyF> akphe1: aehm ... 2 different cards? okay ... can't help you with that then... I only have some experience with two monitors at the same card
[04:31] <Yancho> xchat jrib .. i know there is in the packages but its not the source .. and its not nice its gui
[04:31] <jrib> Yancho: have you tried "xchat" as opposed to "xchat-gnome"?
[04:31] <Yancho> lemme try
[04:31] <akphe1> hmmm ..... unfortunate .... oh well guess i'll just unplug one, install and see where it goes .. thanks anyway :D
[04:31] <jrib> Yancho: to answer your original question though, you need -dev packages for glib
[04:32] <SammyF> akphe1: yw
[04:32] <bulmer> SammyF: which video card did you use to allow for dual monitor on single card?
[04:32] <Yancho> thanks jrib
[04:32] <Yancho> and can i get the dev packages with apt-get?
[04:32] <SammyF> bulmer: when I still had enough room for two monitors, I used a 5600ultra
[04:32] <CPF_> Hi guys, friend of mine uses asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, but complains about bad sound quality (is onboard)
[04:32] <CPF_> Is there any driver, or any performance tweak?
[04:32] <SammyF> bulmer: it was rather easy to setup
[04:33] <soundray> drayen: you could hit 'c' in the grub menu to get to the grub menu. Then you can use 'find' to locate the kernel and construct your kernel and initrd lines manually.
[04:33] <viller> LjL: if nmap -p gives me state filtered then it means the port is firewalled?
[04:33] <bulmer> SammyF: they have two outputs ? both dvi or one dvi and the other analog?
[04:33] <soundray> drayen: correction you could hit 'c' in the grub menu to get to the grub command line (sorry)
[04:33] <SammyF> CPF_: I have the same ... no real problem. It's a bit loud at times, but 99% of the time no difference to Windows
[04:33] <LjL> viller: i think it does
[04:33] <SammyF> bulmer: the one I had had an analog and a DVI
[04:34] <Mr680x0> getent passwd 1000 does nothing :/
[04:34] <SammyF> bulmer: I had two different monitors on that. Worked great .. It was a year ago though
[04:34] <bulmer> SammyF: okay..thanks for the info
[04:34] <LjL> agliv5: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308720&highlight=kqemu+edgy and http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?p=6727&sid=494a2df12b48a1e8fdca8ae0e7bfb752 -- not too clear, but it seems that it *might* work anyway even with that error...?
[04:34] <SammyF> bulmer: np :)
[04:34] <bulmer> Mr680x0: getent is used when you are programming in C ..not a command line
[04:35] <CPF_> SammyF ok, thnx :)
[04:35] <Mr680x0> how do I find the username then?
[04:35] <SammyF> anybody with an ATI card having problem with the latest kernel?
[04:35] <viller> LjL: now I think it doesn't because it still shows filtered after I removed iptables
[04:35] <morrolan> Hi, I used to have a piece of software on my SE K750i, which let me control XMMS via bluetooth, but I had to replace my phone and I don't remember the package.  Does anyone know?
[04:35] <CPF_> I'm having ati card @school, nothing but probs @edgy
[04:36] <LjL> viller: "removed iptables" you mean "iptables -F"?
[04:36] <soundray> bulmer: getent can be used to retrieve a user name from the command line when you know the ID
[04:36] <agliv5> LjL, I'll check it out thx :)
[04:36] <bulmer> SammyF: I actually have a ATI Radeon 9550 and my mobo doesnt even recognize it
[04:36] <Mr680x0> how do I retrieve the username then?
[04:36] <SammyF> bulmer: you installed the fglrx drivers?
[04:36] <soundray> Mr680x0: you haven't created a user yet. You can do this now with 'adduser name' (replace name appropriately)
[04:37] <SammyF> bulmer: hmm ... let me try to find a website I found a week or so ago for a friend's comp .. it has got a script to help you setup your ATI card
[04:37] <Mr680x0> the display is working great now at least
[04:37] <Nickname> hbaigu where do i set the postscript file printer?
[04:37] <morrolan> Hi, I used to have a piece of software on my SE K750i, which let me control XMMS via bluetooth, but I had to replace my phone and I don't remember the package.  Does anyone know?
[04:38] <viller> LjL: removed as in uninstall
[04:38] <hbaigu> Nickname, in what format is what you want to fax?
[04:38] <SammyF> bulmer: try this one .. works with ATI too
[04:38] <SammyF> bulmer: http://lunapark6.com/?p=2717
[04:39] <bulmer> SammyF: that would be great, actually my mobo  does not boot up..so there might be an extra step
[04:39] <Nickname> doc
[04:39] <Nickname> hbaigu, in doc format
[04:39] <MattUSA> hi, I am new to ubuntu and could use some help with GRUB and my particular setup. If anyone is feeling helpfull and wants to private message me.... it could really help.
[04:39] <ProN00b> how can i view the cpu temperature ?
[04:39] <soundray> !pm | MattUSA
[04:39] <ubotu> MattUSA: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:40] <SammyF> bulmer: you can boot WIndows with the mobo?
[04:40] <hbaigu> Nickname, ms word doc? Open it in openoffice and choose to export as a postscript file
[04:40] <drayen> somone answered me just a second ago as windows was crashing - can they please re-state their message? RE: not being able to boot any kernels post upgrade - getting a error 15
[04:40] <enyc> Erm... in Ubuntu-edgy the capslock light is known not to work on the console (all edgy machines seemingly).. but the caps behaviour is different... it activates shifted-symbols (not normal)....  Is this behaviour intentional?  is the caps-led fixed for feisty?
[04:40] <Steve^> How do I make ubuntu recognise more than the main 2 buttons of my mouse? (I have 5 plus side-scrolling, but i'll settle for 3)
[04:40] <MattUSA> understood. What other options are there? I am uncomfortable disclosing the problems experienced and my setup in a public channel. I wouldn't PM without being invited. :)
[04:41] <Mr680x0> I just made an account, but how do I log in as root?
[04:41] <bulmer> SammyF not even get beyond boot up..so cant really try it with Windows, i have to boot first.
[04:41] <ProN00b> how can i view the cpu temperature ?
[04:41] <soundray> ProN00b: there are different ways -- try 'cd /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ ; ls'. If you get any output, cd to the entries and use cat to read the files inside
[04:41] <enyc> Steve^: hrrm im not expert on thesi but you may need to change themouseprotocol or  nuwbottons type thing in xorg.conf
[04:41] <Music_Shuffle> !root
[04:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:41] <SammyF> bulmer: outsch
[04:41] <enyc> Steve^: I know that for osme versions of ubuntu / configs  you may need to change 'zaxismapping' to get the right buttons doing right thing
[04:41] <IdleOne> morrolan: look here for the plugin http://www.xmms.org/plugins.php
[04:41] <Steve^> enyc, theres no automatic options? I'll need to get my hands dirty?
[04:41] <soundray> drayen: you could hit 'c' in the grub menu to get to the grub command line. Then you can use 'find' to locate the kernel and construct your kernel and initrd lines manually.
[04:41] <Blackhex> Hello, I've recently installed kubuntu but when I log in as normal user I can't run any script even it has +x permission. For example: When I run "./configure" it says "bash: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied". When i run it as "bash ./configure" it's executed but if there is any command inside script it don't work? Do I have to be in some group to run scripts directly or something else?
[04:41] <enyc> Steve^: I dont know
[04:42] <enyc> Steve^: I tend to change config files and not use hfancy tools lol
[04:42] <ProN00b> soundray, nope, nothing in there...
[04:42] <enyc> Steve^: usuallly somebody else ends up telling me how to do samething i did with commandline ;-)
[04:42] <drayen> soundray: thanks - yeah i have tried that, but the lines look ok :S
[04:42] <Steve^> enyc, well, I hoped for a simple drop down "2 button mouse, 3 button mouse" ;)
[04:42] <Mr680x0> thanks for the help :)
[04:42] <soundray> ProN00b: in that case, I suggest you install mbmon, and see if 'sudo mbmon' works
[04:42] <enyc> Steve^: anyway on this machine I have an actual IBM ps/2 2 button mouse ;-)
[04:42] <bulmer> Blackhex: do this  which bash and then make sure in the batch file you're using it uses that exact path
[04:43] <Nickname> hbaigu, says error while printing
[04:43] <drayen> soundray: i guess i will go hack away at it some more....
[04:43] <SammyF> gtg
[04:43] <SammyF> cyyaa
[04:43] <Blackhex> bulmer: so I have to edit every configure scripts?
[04:43] <LjL> viller: uninstalling iptables (which is a bad idea anyway) won't remove any rules that were already present.
[04:43] <bulmer> soundray: isnt it that the 1 in the man pages signifies those are C program commands and not really a command line command?
[04:44] <LjL> viller: iptables is just a humble *command* that tells the kernel (specifically, its netfilter part) what do to with internet packets
[04:44] <bulmer> Blackhex: or maybe you can match them by providing a symlink?
[04:44] <LjL> viller: "iptables -F" is the command that will remove all iptables rules
[04:44] <soundray> bulmer: no. Man section 3 is for system calls iirc
[04:44] <IdleOne> morrolan: check this out also http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_mobile_phone,_Bluetooth_and_GNOME
[04:44] <IdleOne> later
[04:44] <Blackhex> bulmer: I don't understand you, sorry
[04:45] <Steve^> I find it hard to believe more ubuntu/linux users only use 2 button mice
[04:45] <Steve^> *most
[04:45] <soundray> Steve^: they don't. Do you have a support question? If not I suggest you go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:45] <Blackhex> bulmer: I just want to run any script directly in shell withou "bash" prefix. What shoud I do. It's SELinux issue?
[04:45] <Steve^> soundray, yes, it was getting more of my mouse buttons to work
[04:46] <abhinay>  iam getting this error when the amarok populating playlist from the device ( mp3 DVD ) , " *** stack smashing detected ***: amarok terminated "
[04:46] <abhinay> Any Idea ?
[04:46] <LjL> Steve^: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and unselect three-button mouse emulation
[04:46] <Steve^> thanks
[04:46] <Nickname> what is a good fax app?
[04:46] <bulmer> Blackhex: possibly, SELinux is hard to work with unless you're familiar with its environment
[04:46] <Blackhex> bulmer: I thought just disable it :-)
[04:47] <chrisg> shell question: How do i get the output of a command to become an argument to another command?
[04:47] <crimsun> xargs
[04:47] <soundray> Nickname: try 'apt-cache search fax receiv' and 'apt-cache search fax send'
[04:47] <chrisg> thanks!
[04:47] <bulmer> Blackhex: why not, go ahead and disable it ..you're not in the big production environment anyways :)
[04:47] <ProN00b> soundray, thanks, mbmon seems to work good
[04:48] <funkja> Does anyone know why I don't see fps when running glxgears?
[04:48] <Steve^> LjL, can I just hit enter through the rest of this config.. and it'll be the current config?
[04:48] <soundray> funkja: use 'glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark'
[04:48] <LjL> funkja: because you're not running it with the  -iacknowledgethatthistoolsisnotabenchmark  option
[04:48] <Blackhex> bulmer: I just want to know if my problem si some bug or just kubuntu feature cause I never see this in any distribution I used
[04:49] <funkja> huh, thats strange
[04:49] <funkja> thanks
[04:49] <LjL> Steve^: yeah, mostly. just be careful with resolutions and modules (the last part of the config), that sometimes seems to give different defaults than the current config
[04:49] <Steve^> k
[04:49] <Music_Shuffle> soundray, did he just...take you seriously on that one?
[04:50] <Strong> Hi, I have upgraded from Dapper to Edgy but when i run "sudo apt-get update" the only thing i see is Dappers words, should i change something in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:50] <soundray> Music_Shuffle: he better should, and so should you
[04:50] <bulmer> Blackhex: have we confirmed yet that the bash command on those scripts are not same?
[04:50] <funkja> soundray: that worked. thanks
[04:50] <soundray> Music_Shuffle: note the response from LjL just next to mine
[04:51] <Music_Shuffle> O_o
[04:51] <LjL> heh
[04:51] <erUSUL> LjL: lol XD -printfps also works this days and it is *way* shorter ;P
[04:51] <soundray> funkja: now you've gone through this exercise, I'm gonna tell you that '-printfps' does the same ;)
[04:51] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah, I knew there was another...cheater :P
[04:51] <soundray> erUSUL: it's educational though
[04:51] <LjL> erUSUL, pfff... hush!
[04:52] <funkja> :-P
[04:52] <erUSUL> soundray: true ;)
[04:52] <Blackhex> bulmer: I don't know what you tried to say by last sentence, never mind, thanks, I'll try to figure it myself, bye
[04:53] <GeekChick|U> When running Ubuntu on battery for my Core Duo T2500 Dell Inspiron E1505, I get only 50% of the battery life I get under the same charge in Windows. I was told to go to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CPUFreq but that has not helped.
[04:53] <kenny20> hi
[04:53] <kenny20> i would like to download Falcon package
[04:53] <soundray> GeekChick|U: what do you get when you run 'lsmod | grep speedstep'?
[04:53] <kenny20> you know where is it ?
[04:53] <kenny20> it's not available in the Ubuntu repository (official)
[04:54] <kenny20> where are the source code of Falcon ?
[04:54] <kenny20> i can download it from                          dans reseau?                          # ali
[04:54] <LjL> !seveas | kenny
[04:54] <ubotu> kenny: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:54] <LjL> i think you'll find the sources there
[04:54] <kenny20> ubotu: cool, thank you !
[04:55] <GeekChick|U> soundray: http://slexy.org/paste/1363
[04:55] <casa-nova> hey
[04:55] <casa-nova> guys
[04:55] <casa-nova> where can i
[04:56] <newest> hey i just done: sudo aptitude install sunjava5-jre etc, but after dl java, i still cant view applets,
[04:56] <casa-nova> obtain the sources of the ubuntu releases?
[04:56] <LjL> !enter
[04:56] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:56] <casa-nova> all of them
[04:56] <soundray> GeekChick|U: that looks okay, can you also paste 'lsmod | grep cpufreq' please
[04:56] <jrib> newest: how about  sun-java5-plugin?
[04:56] <casa-nova> in case i'd like to play with them and do some builds
[04:56] <LjL> casa-nova: *all* of them? do you know how much that's going to be?
[04:56] <newest> ill look for it now
[04:56] <casa-nova> LjL i have a 500 GB USB drive right here on the table
[04:57] <casa-nova> hard drive
[04:57] <GeekChick|U> soundray: http://slexy.org/paste/1364
[04:57] <girolomosopo> can anyone help me to get kismet install pls
[04:57] <newest> jrib: yep i got the plugin, still applets not workin though :(
[04:58] <soundray> GeekChick|U: okay, you've got everything you need on the kernel side. Are you on gnome?
[04:58] <jrib> newest: did you restart firefox/
[04:58] <newest> yep
[04:58] <GeekChick|U> soundray: yes
[04:58] <casa-nova> LjL i've been playing with debian a lot so ui guess ubuntuy as a "debian fork" would be a simiar system, but as the brand is more popular... well... i've thought of using QTopia on it...
[04:58] <garuhhh> hi!
[04:58] <soundray> GeekChick|U: add the CPU Frequence Monitor applet to the panel if you haven't already got it.
[04:58] <christy> hi for some reason i can print from just about every application but firefox.. is there something special to do in firefox to get it to print to my usb/hp/photosmart 8100 printer
[04:58] <jrib> newest: pastebin the result of this command please:  apt-cache policy sun-java5-plugin; ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/; readlink -f $(which firefox)
[04:59] <GeekChick|U> soundray: done, say 1ghz (50%), and yet i still get 50% the battery life that i do under same charge in windows xp. it's rediculous. and this isnt reported time, this is actual usage.
[04:59] <casa-nova> LjL - i'm using currently only linuxes whose sources i can obtain - because i'm using them not only for teh desktop but also for garage tech games
[04:59] <garuhhh> i need help with my epson C59 printer... i need help :(
[05:00] <LjL> casa-nova: i haven't had much luck trying to compile Opie/Qtopia on either here or debian. can't say i've tried *very* hard. debian used to have Opie packages, but doesn't since some years now
[05:00] <casa-nova> that's why debian, gentoo, slackware currently
[05:00] <casa-nova> hmh
[05:00] <GeekChick|U> soundray: "CPU 0 - Powersave\n1 GHz (50%)"
[05:00] <newest> jrib: this is what i got: sun-java5-plugin:
[05:00] <newest>   Installed: (none)
[05:00] <newest>   Candidate: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1
[05:00] <newest>   Version table:
[05:00] <LjL> casa-nova: well how do you get sources in Debian anyway? do they provide source CDs?
[05:00] <newest>      1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 0
[05:00] <newest>         500 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages
[05:00] <newest> libtotem-basic-plugin.so     libtotem-mully-plugin.so
[05:00] <newest> libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt    libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
[05:00] <LjL> !paste > newest    (newest, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:00] <jrib> !pastebin | newest
[05:00] <newest> libtotem-complex-plugin.so   libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
[05:00] <ubotu> newest: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <soundray> GeekChick|U: I believe you.
[05:00] <newest> libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt
[05:00] <newest> libtotem-gmp-plugin.so       libunixprintplugin.so
[05:00] <cherva> i have a problem after yesterdays update in in grub showed up new 2.6.17.11-generic kernel but it won't boot comes up the error with the blue screen and it says "no screens found" should i install nvidia drivers again for the new kernel ?
[05:00] <casa-nova> LjL i am not sure of the QTopia open source but the commercial version ahs the required libraries built-in
[05:01] <garuhhh> hi!!! any one? help with my epson printer :(
[05:01] <LjL> !anyone
[05:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:01] <jrib> !printer | garuhhh
[05:01] <casa-nova> LjL it would be a nice "handheld" project
[05:01] <ubotu> garuhhh: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:01] <GeekChick|U> soundray: i also have the gnome power management applet in the notification area.
[05:01] <soundray> GeekChick|U: if you install laptop-mode-tools, you will get more options to set powersave settings
[05:01] <newest> whoops soz
[05:01] <GeekChick|U> soundray: "laptop-mode-tools is already the newest version."
[05:02] <casa-nova> LjL and as i'm working with debian at the moment i'm asking only for curiosity if there are sources fro ubuntu available, or if Ubuntu is like Mandriva or Novell Linux
[05:02] <jrib> newest: sun-java5-plugin isn't installed.  You need to:  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[05:02] <cherva> i have a problem after yesterdays update when i restarted in grub showed up new 2.6.17.11-generic kernel but it won't boot comes up the error with the blue screen and it says "no screens found" should i install nvidia drivers again for the new kernel ?
[05:02] <morrolan> Hi, I used to have a piece of software on my SE K750i, which let me control XMMS via bluetooth, but I had to replace my phone and I don't remember the package.  Does anyone know?
[05:02] <LjL> cherva: yes. if you're using unofficial drivers, the new kernel won't work with them.
[05:02] <garuhhh> hi! obotu... i guess it was cups that i used.. but can't find my c59 printer from its readily available drivers..
[05:02] <soundray> GeekChick|U: so, cd to /etc/laptop-mode and configure your system behaviour when on battery power
[05:02] <newest> sweet, done, just restart firefox
[05:03] <LjL> casa-nova, there are certainly sources available, i just don't know if you can order a CD or something like that
[05:03] <yossir> Hi. I generated a gpg key, how do I send someone my public key by email?
[05:03] <cherva> LjL ok 10x
[05:03] <GeekChick|U> soundray: isnt the power management thing in system -> preferences the same thing
[05:03] <LjL> casa-nova: but you can certainly do an "apt-get source <package>" for any package you like, except some of those in restricted and multiverse (which are nonfree)
[05:03] <vox754> !ubotu
[05:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:03] <jrib> garuhhh: ubotu is a bot, did you try searching for info in the first three links he gave you?
[05:03] <zoli2k> Hi!  the headphone out doesn't work on hda_intel sound card. can anybody help me?
[05:03] <yellow> yossir, aptitude search enigmail
[05:04] <soundray> GeekChick|U: laptop-mode.conf gives you more "under the hood"-options
[05:04] <Bonez> how do you get to laptop mode
[05:04] <yaman> still can't get my builtin cam work how can i make the system detect it
[05:04] <yossir> yellow: I don't need to encrypt/decrypt all main, just export my public key to some ascii format and send it as a file attachment.
[05:04] <GeekChick|U> soundray:  http://slexy.org/paste/1365
[05:05] <daniel007> hi, I'm trying to get my ubuntu machine networked with my xp machine.  No success after many howto's.  Can someone help?
[05:05] <garuhhh> hi thanks!! haven't tried the links
[05:05] <Ramunas> hello, what's happening to security.ubuntu.com repository?
[05:05] <ucordes> how can i see al active cronjobs?
[05:05] <yellow> yossir, i think when i set enigmail up it give me option to choose which one to encrypt, as well as attaching my pub key to every mail out
[05:05] <zoli2k> Can anybody help me with HDA intel sound card?
[05:05] <LjL> Ramunas: what's happening to it?
[05:06] <Ramunas> LjL: its really slow
[05:06] <soundray> GeekChick|U: change 0 to 1 in line 192
[05:06] <GeekChick|U> soundray: it looks like good settings. and yet i still get half the battery life.
[05:06] <LjL> Ramunas: it's never been terribly fast - after all, it's just *one* site, while the other repos have national mirrors
[05:06] <GeekChick|U> soundray: hold.
[05:06] <LjL> Ramunas: and beefy Edgy updates just came out yesterday, so...
[05:06] <GeekChick|U> soundray: do you mean line 91? "DISABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_CRITICAL_BATTERY_LEVEL=1"
[05:06] <vox754> daniel007: you mean, are you trying to share folder and directories between your systems? I haven't tried it, but I'd like to know which links you 've tried.
[05:06] <soundray> GeekChick|U: no, I mean line 192
[05:06] <Ramunas> LjL: but it never was that slow...
[05:07] <yossir> yellow: the command I was looking for was `gpg --armor --output "key.txt" --export "yossir"`, but thanks anyway :)
[05:07] <soundray> GeekChick|U: (why would I say line 192 and mean line 91?)
[05:07] <yossir> (I can then attach key.txt it to my email)
[05:07] <GeekChick|U> soundray, whats the property name,  i dont have line numbering in vim, or gedit.
[05:07] <yellow> yossir, it's all good
[05:07] <LjL> Ramunas: well, not the end of the world it seems to me. just wait a few
[05:07] <yellow> :)
[05:07] <soundray> GeekChick|U: look it up on your own paste then
[05:08] <soundray> GeekChick|U: CONTROL_CPU_FREQUENCY=
[05:08] <GeekChick|U> soundray: done
[05:08] <GeekChick|U> soundray: do i restart a service?
[05:08] <Bonez> I installed ubuntu 6.10 everything works fine other than after a few minutes my mouse quits workin. I'm on a laptop trying to use an external mouse because the mouse pad dosen't fully work. Any help with this would be greatly appreaciated
[05:08] <soundray> GeekChick|U:  sudo /etc/init.d/laptop-mode restart
[05:08] <EnsignRedshirt> How do I type letters with accents?  I know I've it before, but I am having a senior moment...
[05:08] <soundray> GeekChick|U: and hope that it makes a difference
[05:09] <daniel007> vox754:  I started with the ubuntu forums.  from their, I've followed out to links to some howto's docs.
[05:09] <soundray> GeekChick|U: is it possible that Windows uses only one of your two CPU cores?
[05:09] <GeekChick|U> soundray: done, and thanks. so basically, i have to fully charge this thing again, and then wait.
[05:09] <GeekChick|U> soundray: no, it uses both
[05:09] <yaman> how can i start the bluetooth server to recive files ?
[05:09] <daniel007> vox754:  I've installed samba, and with the help of a howto, I've shared a folder, but my windows machine can't see it
[05:10] <GeekChick|U> soundray: ive seen the histogram in the process monitor. it uses both very evenly in maximum battery mode. and i get 5 hours of charge. under ubuntu only 2.5hrs
[05:10] <soundray> GeekChick|U: it could be an issue with the timer. Kernel 2.6.21 will have a feature where the tick frequency is scaled down in low-demand situations.
[05:10] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: setup a deadkey in keyboard preferences  then <deadkey> then <accent> then <letter>
[05:10] <vox754> EnsignRedshirt: right click on upper panel "add panel -> character palette"
[05:10] <Bonez> No takers on the mouse question? ^
[05:11] <GeekChick|U> soundray: i believe im running 2.6.x.11 from the auto updater.
[05:11] <LjL> soundray: by tick frequency you mean that famous (currently compile-time) option that gamers set to 1000 instead of 250 as the first thing they do?
[05:11] <Spark> lm-sensors is giving me an error message i don't understand
[05:11] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: sorry, it's called a "compose key" in the "layout options" tab, not a "dead" key
[05:11] <Spark> Can't access procfs/sysfs file
[05:11] <Spark> strace shows it looking for a file that isn't there
[05:11] <Spark> i've loaded the modules and everything
[05:11] <soundray> LjL: I think those two are the same, yes
[05:11] <Spark> no idea what to do to make those /sys/class/hwmon files appear
[05:12] <funkja> I'm planning on reinstalling Ubuntu. I have a 64 bit processor and I know in the past I have gotten frusterated at the difficulty of finding working packages for amd64 machines. So I've always installed 32 bit ubuntu instead. Would you recommend installing 64 bit ubuntu this time? Explain.
[05:12] <EnsignRedshirt> k!
[05:12] <soundray> GeekChick|U: that would be 2.6.17.11. 2.6.21 is two ubuntu releases away I'm afraid.
[05:12] <LjL> soundray: so basically it's the quantum of time for preemption, right? and it would be changed dynamically depending on load? that sounds interesting
[05:12] <vox754> Bonez: sorry. Seems odd that a mouse wouldn't work. You expect those things to work.
[05:12] <soundray> LjL: I'll dig it out where I got it from. I'm just a humble news consumer...
[05:12] <Spark> open("/sys/class/hwmon", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 4
[05:13] <EnsignRedshirt> jrib: Thks.
[05:13] <soundray> GeekChick|U: but feisty will have smoother ACPI support apparently
[05:13] <GeekChick|U> soundray: i did the tutorial at http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/CPUFreq, could that interfere with what you told me to do? because they said to remove powernowd and cpudyn
[05:13] <jrib> EnsignRedshirt: :)
[05:13] <Bonez> vox754 it does for awhile but quits workin after a few min
[05:13] <soundray> GeekChick|U: ACPI is another potential source of trouble
[05:13] <soundray> GeekChick|U: yes, I suggest you reinstall powernowd
[05:13] <GeekChick|U> and cpudyn?
[05:13] <soundray> GeekChick|U: sec
[05:14] <daniel007> vox754:  here's one of the urls I've used: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[05:14] <vox754> funkja: no, don't install the 64-bit unless you really know what your are doing. I've read it is recommended for headless machines, or servers, not for desktop, everyday users.
[05:14] <GeekChick|U> soundray: powernowd is back in and started.
[05:14] <Bonez> vox754 mouse pad on the laptop works but all i can do is move it and left click. no right click and no click and hold
[05:14] <samalex> hey guys.  question that a usb keyboard and mouse would run very sluggish in 6.10?  I have a PS2 keyboard and USB mouse connected via PS2 with converter, and both work great.  However if I connect the mouse directly to USB port and connect a USB keyboard, they drag and are super slow.
[05:14] <soundray> GeekChick|U: give powernowd a test. If you're still unhappy about battery time, try cpudyn again
[05:14] <DustOfTheEarth> Help Please    Am trying to install MythTV  on 6.10   Instructions for mythtv tell me to modify (/etc/apt/sources.list) but when I try I am told I don't have permission to modify that file.  So How do I get Permission?  I understand it is a root permissioned folder
[05:15] <Mumbles> sudo
[05:15] <jrib> !sudo | DustOfTheEarth
[05:15] <ubotu> DustOfTheEarth: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:15] <daniel007> Dust:  use sudo
[05:15] <funkja> vox754 - thanks. That is silly though. 64 bit is the future.
[05:15] <mark_> !w32codec
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <mark_> !w32codecs
[05:15] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:15] <soundray> GeekChick|U: I take it you've checked obvious things, such as display brightness, USB devices and PCMCIA power?
[05:15] <DustOfTheEarth> how do I use Sudo in GUI
[05:15] <EnsignRedshirt> vox754: I added the character palette, but I don't know what to do with it. When I click on a character, nothing happens.
[05:15] <LjL> !sudo > DustOfTheEarth    (DustOfTheEarth, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:15] <erUSUL> DustOfTheEarth: gksudo
[05:15] <LjL> DustOfTheEarth: use gksudo
[05:16] <soundray> GeekChick|U: unless you need PCMCIA, I would suggest you blacklist its modules
[05:16] <vox754> Bonez: You may need to adjust your "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" in the Device section.
[05:16] <GeekChick|U> soundray: that blacklists what ports?
[05:16] <garuhhh> i can't find my epson c59 driver... i'd really appreciate the help...
[05:16] <garuhhh> thanks!
[05:16] <Bonez> vox754 ok Ill try that
[05:16] <GeekChick|U> soundray: how do i change the cpu mode? its saying "ondemand" with the cpu monitor in taskbar
[05:17] <soundray> GeekChick|U: not ports, modules. Whichever your PCMCIA slot loads
[05:17] <Bonez> vox754 tks
[05:17] <soundray> GeekChick|U: ondemand is probably already the best choice
[05:17] <TexasTaz> What us the package system in Ubuntu? New User here sorry for the stupid questions
[05:17] <GeekChick|U> soundray: no i put that there with that tutorial i had. i dont know the original mode.
[05:17] <nyokie> hi sould use some help with install issue
[05:17] <vox754> EnsignRedshirt: works for me. Incidentally, when I view other keyboard layouts, they are not displayed, like my X isn't working. Try accessing the palette from the command line so it gives you errors.
[05:17] <TexasTaz> us = is
[05:17] <GreyGhost> garuhhh , sorry for my ignorance but  epson c59 happens to be a printer right?
[05:18] <daniel007> hi, I'm trying to share folders from by ubuntu machine so my xp machine can access them.  No success after many howto's.  Can someone help?
[05:18] <rgl> how do I reconfigure xorg?  doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg bails with /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed :(
[05:18] <crawlzer> can someone help me with my symlink errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5068/
[05:18] <soundray> GeekChick|U: in any case, you can set it in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf under BATT_CPU_GOVERNOR= and the other governors
[05:19] <Bonez> vox754 excuse the noob question but exactly where would that be
[05:19] <erUSUL> rgl: try to fix this with apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:19] <nyokie> in ubuntu installer how do i know which of my 3 sata hddd's contain windows?
[05:19] <vox754> funkja: yes, 64 bit is the future, it is a slow future, though.
[05:20] <gh0st> which kernel should i use with amd64 ubuntu?
[05:20] <soundray> nyokie: 'sudo fdisk -l' and look out for NTFS/HPFS
[05:20] <erUSUL> nyokie: windows is always in the first one ( /dev/sda )
[05:20] <nn-server> q
[05:20] <erUSUL> gh0st: -generic
[05:20] <soundray> gh0st: the default one
[05:20] <crawlzer> LjL, alive ?
[05:20] <gh0st> what about the k7?
[05:20] <morrolan> I've just used Synaptic to update, but it failed to fetch kernel headers, but it has installed a new kernel.  Am I safe to reboot, or shall I wait until I can fetch the package?
[05:20] <soundray> gh0st: it's 32 bit
[05:20] <nyokie> under bios windows is on my 3rd dick so im scared of which to install to
[05:20] <erUSUL> !generic | gh0st
[05:20] <ubotu> gh0st: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[05:20] <crawlzer> can someone help me with my symlink errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5068/
[05:20] <LjL> crawlzer: in a coma
[05:20] <GreyGhost> !printers | garuhhh
[05:20] <ubotu> garuhhh: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:21] <vox754> Bonez: type "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to view your devices.
[05:21] <Bonez> vox754 in terminal?
[05:21] <crawlzer> LjL, help me with my symlink errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5068/
[05:21] <GeekChick|U> soundray: thanks. i changed "BATT_CPU_GOVERNOR" from ondemand to powersave. i hope that fixes it. i still have to restart laptop-mode in init.d right?
[05:21] <morrolan> I've just used Synaptic to update, but it failed to fetch kernel headers, but it has installed a new kernel.  Am I safe to reboot, or shall I wait until I can fetch the package?
[05:21] <soundray> GeekChick|U: yes
[05:21] <GreyGhost> garuhhh , ping
[05:22] <LjL> morrolan: you can always boot the old kernel from GRUB in any event
[05:22] <vox754> Bonez: "in terminal?" <---- I guess you won't know if you don't try it.
[05:22] <AMAG> LjL how much time do you spend helping people through ubuntu woes? :P
[05:22] <Bonez> lol
[05:22] <morrolan> LjL: good point, I'd forgotten about that
[05:22] <soundray> see you all later
[05:22] <erUSUL> crawlzer: try sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/* and then install again
[05:23] <quaal> does anyone use device mapper ?
[05:23] <LjL> AMAG: i spend too much time on IRC for sure
[05:23] <morrolan> quaal, I have used it a little
[05:23] <LjL> crawlzer, perhaps what he said... i have no idea why that should happen, and cannot quite try to reproduce it
[05:23] <erUSUL> morrolan: it is safe to reboot
[05:23] <quaal> morrolan, think you would be able to help me out mounting a raid drive ?
[05:23] <quaal> raid partition
[05:23] <quaal> raid-0
[05:23] <EnsignRedshirt> LjL: At least you are still saying "too" and "for" instead of 2 and 4
[05:24] <morrolan> quaal - ooh, don't know anything about raid, I used device/mapper with dm-crypt to create encrypted drives, sorry
[05:24] <quaal> oh.
[05:24] <AMAG> LjL I was finally able to get the ubuntu installer going on my 3ware array.  Migrating all my data to new box today.  And evolution..:/
[05:24] <LjL> EnsignRedshirt: u r r8
[05:24] <morrolan> erUSUL: thanks, I forgot I can just use the older kernel in grub anyway.
[05:24] <Bonez> vox754 No such dir
[05:24] <EnsignRedshirt> LjL: lol
[05:25] <LjL> AMAG: new module version?
[05:25] <AMAG> LjL I installed without the "big" partition selected for use
[05:25] <AMAG> Then mkfs'd it myself after the system was up and running
[05:25] <nyokie> in bios windows is installed to 3rd hdd so in unbuntu installer would it be on 1 or 3?
[05:25] <rgl> erUSUL, ah, now it run. going to try the new confg. thx!
[05:26] <LjL> nyokie: err, IDE HDs in linux don't have *numbers*, they have *letters*, such as /dev/hda, /dev/hdb... the numbers are for partitions
[05:26] <morrolan> nyokie, GRUB will install to the MBR of /dev/hda usually, but it should detect Windows automatically.  If not, it's easy to modify grub to boot Windows also.
[05:26] <nyokie> in bios windows is on 3rd hdd so in unbuntu installer would it be on dha or hdc?
[05:26] <vox754> Bonez: inside the file, your pointer is something like Section: "InputDevice". You may need to modify the options under it. This is specific to the driver "mouse" and you may learn more with "man xorg.conf". Paths are case-sensitive, use nautilus to view the file if you are having problems typing it.
[05:26] <crawlzer> :O
[05:26] <LjL> nyokie: if by "3rd drive in the BIOS" you mean the secondary master, that should come to be /dev/hdc
[05:26] <crawlzer> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[05:26] <morrolan> nyokie:  hdc is the 3rd HDD in your BIOS
[05:26] <axa-axa> Hi. I'm beginner with servlets, that is I'm reading a book about it, but the problem is the describes the process of deploying only on Windows which requires it only to start one batch file. I'm using Ubuntu and i've installed Tomcat5, I've changed JAVA_HOME in /etc/default/tomcat5 to appropriate path since I'm using Java 6 (1.6) when I stat tomcat, everyting seems to be fine. In apache I've arranged later to use my ~/public_html for
[05:26] <axa-axa>  html's. So my question si, where and should I put my compiled servlets to test them?
[05:27] <daniel007> hi, I'm trying to share folders from by ubuntu machine so my xp machine can access them.  No success after many howto's.  I can ping both machines, but not access directories/files. Can someone help?
[05:27] <erUSUL> LjL: they are sata drives...
[05:27] <crawlzer> no its saying E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[05:27] <crawlzer> now
[05:27] <LjL> erUSUL: then i don't know a thing about them
[05:27] <ijk> is it possible to extend the bottom bar so that programs can lie in two rows e.g.?
[05:27] <nyokie> ok so do not install to hdc then?
[05:28] <crawlzer> erUSUL, dude
[05:28] <quaal> If your kernel does not already contain device-mapper, patch,
[05:28] <quaal>    configure and build a new kernel with it.
[05:28] <crawlzer> now its saying E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[05:28] <morrolan> ijk, can you add another panel at the bottom?
[05:28] <quaal> how do i know if my kernel has device-mapper
[05:28] <vox754> nyokie: you need to give further details of what you're doing. How many disks you have? How many partitions?
[05:28] <lupine_85> crawlzer: sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial ?
[05:28] <morrolan> quaal, sudo dmsetup ls
[05:28] <quaal> kernel 2.6.17-10
[05:29] <ijk> sure I can add another panel, but the programs wont place themselves in that new panel.
[05:29] <mikemacd> hey, can anyone help me fix a problem im having?
[05:29] <nyokie> 3 sata hdd's one with windows one storage and one empty ininstaller i cant see which is which as they are all 160 gig
[05:29] <hjmills_> Wooksta, sorry about disappearing - the power cut out because our iron sucks
[05:29] <vox754> Bonez: use "locate <filename>" to look for files, very useful. "locate xorg.conf"
[05:29] <maynoth42> can anyone help me
[05:29] <hjmills_> !ask
[05:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:29] <maynoth42> my color depth changed
[05:29] <maynoth42> where do I go to change it back
[05:30] <mikemacd> im getting this error when i try to boot up the ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:30] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[05:30] <quaal> morrolan, http://pastebin.ca/349156
[05:30] <DustOfTheEarth> Thank you for the help
[05:30] <quaal> doesnt look right
[05:30] <morrolan> Ahhh, I understand what you mean now.  Can you not add another Window List or Window Selector applet?  One of them is a drawer, which might make it easier for you.
[05:30] <crawlzer> didnt fix it
[05:30] <crawlzer> didnt fix it
[05:30] <nkbreau> does linux/ubunut have a max tcp connections setting in the OS somewehre ?
[05:30] <nkbreau> or is it just in windows ?
[05:30] <crawlzer> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: 6: update-gconf-defaults: Too many levels of symbolic links
[05:31] <maynoth42> is there an applet that can change color depth
[05:31] <maynoth42> ?
[05:31] <morrolan> quaal, give me one moment
[05:31] <quaal> morrolan, ok
[05:31] <GreyGhost> maynoth42 ,its in the screen resolution under prefernces men on the top bar
[05:31] <vox754> nyokie: you could try unplugging each one. Are you running Live CD? you could type "fdisk -l"
[05:31] <mikemacd> im getting this error when i try to boot up the ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:31] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[05:31] <nyokie> fdisk i will let me browse the drives?
[05:32] <nyokie> yes live cd
[05:32] <maynoth42> grey... there are no options for colors in there... just screen resolution
[05:32] <nyokie> 6.10
[05:32] <quaal> nyokie, fdisk -l
[05:32] <vox754> nyokie: that is "sudo fdisk -l" it gives you a list of your "disks" and "partitions"
[05:32] <nyokie> and it will show which is windows boot disk?
[05:32] <quaal> nyokie, it shows ntfs partitions
[05:33] <quaal> nyokie, or fat. i do not believe it has any way of knowing what is bootable
[05:33] <quaal> as far as windows partitions go
[05:33] <nyokie> ok all are ntfs single partition
[05:33] <morrolan> quaal, sudo apt-get install dmsetup
[05:33] <quaal> ok
[05:33] <maynoth42> :~(
[05:33] <morrolan> quaal, ls -l /dev/mapper/control
[05:34] <quaal> morrolan, is this a bad guide? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2557
[05:34] <quaal> because this is what i did
[05:34] <quaal> exactly
[05:34] <mikemacd> im getting this error when i try to boot up the ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:34] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[05:34] <quaal> and i have no /dev/mapper
[05:34] <nyokie> i just dont want to overwrite my windows disk
[05:34] <maynoth42> 256 colors are horrible...     anyone know what you do to change it back to 32bit?
[05:34] <morrolan> quaal, sudo dmsetup targets
[05:34] <erUSUL> crawlzer: sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/ (sorry for the late response)
[05:34] <vox754> nyokie: paste what you see here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:34] <Dr_willis> maynoth42,  could edit the xorg.conf file by hand.
[05:34] <maynoth42> ohhh... so... painful
[05:35] <maynoth42> theres not an applet
[05:35] <maynoth42> ?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> maynoth42,  trivial.. its the 'defaultdepth' setting. the ISSUE is why did it change..
[05:35] <quaal> oh noez !!
[05:35] <Dr_willis> maynoth42,  im guessing theres some other issue going on.
[05:35] <quaal> you'll have to edit the file manually !
[05:35] <Dr_willis> quaal,  the Humanity of it all!
[05:35] <maynoth42> :B
[05:35] <crawlzer> erUSUL, i did that
[05:35] <crawlzer> im having the same
[05:35] <crawlzer> symlinks errors
[05:35] <maynoth42> well how does one edit the xorg file
[05:36] <Dr_willis> backup your xorg.conf file to begin with.
[05:36] <maynoth42> sudo gedit somethin
[05:36] <erUSUL> crawlzer: did you used 'rm -r'?? rm shouldn'n an do not erase dirs....
[05:36] <whaq> /join #mediaportal
[05:36] <whaq> oops
[05:36] <Dr_willis> maynoth42,  its located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  - BACKIT UP :)
[05:36] <crawlzer> erUSUL, the prob is with symlinks
[05:36] <crawlzer> not
[05:36] <mikemacd> im getting this error when i try to boot up the ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:36] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[05:36] <crawlzer> the packages
[05:36] <andy> hello there, can I resize the "Back Button" in Nautilus? Or the buttons there in general?
[05:36] <Calfornia> how can i import mz explorer favorites into vmwar
[05:36] <crawlzer> i think i stupidly added too many levels of symlinks
[05:36] <maynoth42> thankies...
[05:36] <crawlzer> and its confusing the system
[05:36] <morrolan> quaal, it's old
[05:36] <crawlzer> do you know how i can remove all symlinks of a file ?
[05:37] <morrolan> quaal, that guide is really outdated, don't use it
[05:37] <Belutz> hi all
[05:37] <jahid> hi, can anyone tell me how to open an window from terminal?
[05:37] <quaal> morrolan, ls: /dev/mapper/control: No such file or directory
[05:37] <quaal> after i did your apt-get install dmsetup
[05:37] <quaal> morrolan, ok.
[05:37] <quaal> morrolan, what if i already did download those packages manually, ./configure and make install them ?
[05:38] <Belutz> i got problem booting/installing 6.10, it says <0> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! what might cause the problem?
[05:38] <Calfornia> hi  im new in the chat
[05:38] <EnsignRedshirt> maynoth42: There is a thread in ubuntuforums.org in which someone has posted a xorg.conf gui editor (but I haven't tried it).
[05:38] <quaal> EnsignRedshirt, ridiculous !
[05:38] <battlesq1d> hello i just had a crash and now i can't boot from my main ubuntu installation (amd64) ! i had to boot using my secondary ubuntu installation (x86) and all my documents etc seems lost... all i know is grub fails to boot that installation saying something like "the disk failed to boot" and i have only one (sata) disk. please help!
[05:39] <morrolan> anyone else having trouble with the archive.ubuntu repo's?
[05:40] <robdeman> what is the best DVD-ripper-divx-encoder package for Fedora?
[05:40] <X-Master> Yes, I also had some trouble
[05:40] <maynoth42> kk i got xorg.conf backed up
[05:40] <swampmallard> does anyone know what version of gcc was used to compile edgy packages?
[05:40] <daniel007> How can I remove my windows drive icon from my desktop?
[05:40] <compengi> i have updated my kernel today but in version i get "Linux compengi 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux"
[05:40] <pirate-king> E: samba: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:40] <pirate-king> when updating?
[05:40] <compengi> Feb 1?
[05:41] <quaal> morrolan, http://pastebin.ca/349168
[05:41] <mikemacd> im getting this error when i try to boot up the ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:41] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[05:41] <Matty> how do i get IRC Chat on my mac?
[05:41] <quaal> appears to have installed fine
[05:41] <quaal> Matty, xchat
[05:41] <maynoth42> do I just change where it says DefaultDepth	16    to 24
[05:41] <maynoth42> ?
[05:41] <maynoth42> and reboot
[05:41] <Matty> quaal: do i just download it?
[05:41] <X-Master> Does enyone knows why the installation of the new kernel ( 2.6.17-11-generic ) leaves the old one ond does not removes it, and how can it be removed?
[05:42] <EnsignRedshirt> maynoth42: You shouldn't even have to reboot.
[05:42] <quaal> Matty_T, how else would you get it
[05:42] <Lostmadman> morning everyone
[05:42] <quaal> order it on cd ?
[05:42] <robdeman> what is the best DVD-ripper-divx-encoder package for Ubuntu?
[05:42] <Matty_T> haha i dunno. its early. not thinkin straight
[05:42] <quaal> dont encode in divx
[05:43] <quaal> that shits weak
[05:43] <morrolan> quaal, that's better, that's the device mapper setup program
[05:43] <pirate-king> anybody get this error---->>>E: samba: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:43] <quaal> oh noe
[05:43] <quaal> my help died
[05:43] <GreyGhost> RIP help
[05:43] <iosdfjdosi> hi greyghost
[05:44] <Lostmadman> does anyone know of a good guide online for removing almsot everything from ubuntu I want to strip it down similar to that of server install but i do not want to format and reinstall
[05:44] <linuxnewbie756> how can i convert an mp4 file to an mp3 file? or does audacity support mp4 files?
[05:44] <GreyGhost> iosdfjdosi ,hello
[05:44] <iosdfjdosi> wassup
[05:44] <iosdfjdosi> any news from reactos?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Lostmadman,  fire up the package manager and start uninstalling? :)
[05:45] <TexasTaz> Right Dr Willils ......
[05:45] <AMAG> Any NFS gurus here who can tell me about this new-fangled NFSv4? :)
[05:46] <Lostmadman> lol id love to but I only acess this machine using ssh and cant load synaptic its apt-get only for me and i dont want to remove something that is needed or break anything I do know i want all traces of xwindows gone though
[05:46] <GreyGhost> iosdfjdosi , news eh? they still didn get 0.3.1 out ..
[05:46] <oxigen> hey, does anyone here have konqueror installed?
[05:46] <pirate-king> anybody running a webcam in ubuntu?
[05:46] <GreyGhost> iosdfjdosi ,how do u know ROS ?
[05:46] <mikemacd> im getting this error when i try to boot up the ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:46] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[05:46] <compengi> i have updated my kernel today but in version i get "Linux compengi 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux" why?
[05:46] <niyi> does anyone know of a good torrent downlaoder aside from bittorent or azerus?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Lostmadman,  ssh -X whatever to the box, from antoher linux box, or windows with xming, and run the x program. it should appear  on the remote desktop. I do that all the time.
[05:47] <AMAG> compengi looks like your machine is still booting the previous image
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Lostmadman,  of course if you want to remove the X/gui interface packages... well that wont work. :)
[05:47] <mikemacd> niyi - utorrent
[05:47] <AMAG> You mean you upgraded as in built it from the source tree yourself right?
[05:47] <mikemacd> best one.
[05:47] <Belutz> i got problem booting/installing 6.10, it says <0> kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! what might cause the problem?
[05:47] <niyi> it works on linux
[05:47] <niyi> ??
[05:47] <mikemacd> oh, not sure, check it out.
[05:47] <compengi> AMAG, so should i risk deleting the previous image?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> niyi,  i use wine and utorrent.exe
[05:48] <AMAG> compengi I wouldn't delete it; your box might not boot without it! :)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> niyi,  a bit overkill.. but it worked last i tried it.
[05:48] <niyi> k
[05:48] <EnsignRedshirt> quaal: Took a while, but here's the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156243
[05:48] <niyi> will give it a try
[05:48] <quaal> hahahaahahaah
[05:48] <quaal> i just remembered a dream i had last night
[05:48] <garuhhh> hi greyghost... if i "IM" you, do you receive my messages? ...sorry this is my first time to use this chat :D
[05:48] <quaal> UBUNTU BLUESCREENED !!
[05:48] <AMAG> compengi by "upgraded your kernel" do you mean you built a new image from the source tree yourself?
[05:48] <quaal> haha
[05:49] <compengi> AMAG, nope
[05:49] <mikemacd> im getting this error when i try to boot up the ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[05:49] <mikemacd> [17179706.232000]  hdd: timeout waiting for DMA
[05:49] <erUSUL> !caps | quaal
[05:49] <ubotu> quaal: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:49] <compengi> AMAG, it was today's upgrade
[05:49] <GreyGhost> garuhhh ,did u IM me ? i didn get any ... are u registered with NickServ ?
[05:49] <mikemacd> !ask
[05:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:49] <AMAG> Oh, I see.
[05:49] <garuhhh> greyghost. am sorry, no i'm not..
[05:49] <quaal> erUSUL, calm down.
[05:49] <garuhhh> greyghost, i'm using gaim now..
[05:49] <GreyGhost> garuhhh , do this /msg NickServ HELP
[05:50] <compengi> AMAG, so should i remove the image and leave the latest one?
[05:50] <compengi> AMAG, is it risky?
[05:50] <quaal> EnsignRedshirt, oh.. i thought this was to do with my mounting a raid partition :(
[05:50] <GreyGhost> garuhhh ,then find how the REGISTER instructions and follow them ... once done u'll be able to IDENTIFY and IM ..
[05:50] <PwcrLinux> Hello all
[05:51] <AMAG> compengi I wouldn't remove either one if you aren't certain which one is booting. :)  It won't hurt you to have both images.  Not like you are out of disk space right?
[05:51] <linuxboy_> salut !
[05:51] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,hello
[05:51] <AMAG> I know nothing about the kernel that comes out of the ubuntu packages though
[05:51] <GreyGhost>  linuxboy_ ,hello
[05:51] <linuxboy_> comment je defragmente ma racine !
[05:51] <GreyGhost> !fr | linuxboy_
[05:51] <ubotu> linuxboy_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:52] <compengi> AMAG, nope but as you can see that it seems to boot from old kernel version
[05:52] <linuxboy_> oh sorry !
[05:52] <linuxboy_> oups !
[05:52] <PwcrLinux> Did any notice in about:config in FF, the string very whacked up in network.IDN.blacklist_chars
[05:52] <garuhhh> hi jrib! checked the sites the bot gave me,, unfortunately no epson c59 for me...
[05:52] <pirate-king> did someone just say they updated and had trouble?
[05:52] <PwcrLinux> Yea, my FF quits unexpectly after installed flashplayer 9
[05:53] <maynoth42> ugg... that didn't work :C
[05:53] <maynoth42> what else besides the xorg.conf file
[05:53] <maynoth42> would cause graphics to be stuck at 256
[05:53] <maynoth42> :C
[05:53] <cheeseboy16> is there an app that can open 7z?
[05:53] <bucketfan99> so i had to change the mobo in my ubuntu machine. now X won't start and eth0 is buggered (ifconfig eth0 fails) even tho its listed in dmesg
[05:53] <bucketfan99> is there some ubuntu way of magically fixing all this ?
[05:53] <Hmmmm> guys, i have setup my domain on google apps. but cant get evolution to download
[05:53] <GreyGhost> !resolution |  maynoth42
[05:53] <ubotu> maynoth42: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:54] <erUSUL> cheeseboy16: in the repos there are the cli apps to manage those
[05:54] <GreyGhost>  maynoth42 see if u have anyof those problems..
[05:54] <garuhhh> hi jrib... can i IM you? how?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> bucketfan99,  the network card is built into the motherboard?
[05:54] <alanhaggai> I have lost many of my menus in Ubuntu. Cn anyone help me to restore them?
[05:54] <lotusleaf> !7zip | cheeseboy16
[05:54] <ubotu> cheeseboy16: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:54] <maynoth42> Generic Linux kernel image is broken
[05:54] <maynoth42> is that bad
[05:54] <maynoth42> ?
[05:55] <jahid> can anyone tell me how can i install yahoo messenger on my obuntu?
[05:55] <alanhaggai> I have lost the Add/Remove and many many options in 'Administration' menu.
[05:55] <lotusleaf> maynoth42: see ubuntuforums.org front page for a link to a related thread
[05:55] <maynoth42> grey I did a system reboot
[05:55] <cheeseboy16> file roller doesnt work
[05:55] <varsendaggr> i am using ubuntu can't get pilot-xfer to be recognized by jpilot....   i tried to google the error message, but i ran into two dead pages...   and the others didn't help
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !7zip
[05:55] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:55] <Hansin321> !tar | Hansin321
[05:55] <varsendaggr> it seems like a software problem
[05:55] <crawlzer> cant anyone help me!!!!!!!!!
[05:56] <Hansin321> Sorry, just trying to see the bot work,  That is pretty cool.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> cheeseboy16,  try the command line 7zip tools perhaps?
[05:56] <maynoth42> ugg
[05:56] <pirate-king> is ther a way to install ubuntu without that gay brown?
[05:56] <midgetg0at> I lose power to my office when someone runs the microwave about 3 times a day. Most of the time VMWare is running when this happens. This latest time it happened, VMWare is refusing to start. It just says "Starting VMware Server Console" in the task bar, hangs for a bit while it's loading, and then just disappears...Question is: is there any repair method i can use to get VMware to come back?? I use it about 90% of the time i'm 
[05:56] <maynoth42> why don't they beta test before sending these ecms out
[05:56] <maynoth42> :B
[05:57] <Dr_willis> midgetg0at,  id get a long extension cord and run the power to the microwave from someplace else. :)_
[05:57] <varsendaggr> my palm can hotsync   but not transfer the .prc files
[05:57] <quaal> midgetg0at, sounds like you need a power backup
[05:57] <pirate-king> I updated and now xorg.conf buggered
[05:57] <alanhaggai> I have lost the Add/Remove and many many options in 'Administration' menu. Can anyone help me?
[05:57] <midgetg0at> yes, i agree with both of you :) however, just getting VMware back up would be the best right now.
[05:57] <compengi> is the latest kernel 2.6.17.1-11.35?
[05:57] <cheeseboy16> its saying archive type not supported.7z
[05:57] <m_e_> hab kdm deinstalliert und neu installiert... seit dem ld er meine taskleiste nicht mehr :( hatt jemand damit erfahrungen? wei nicht was ich tun soll... :(
[05:58] <m_e_> wuups sry
[05:58] <pirate-king> hehehe
[05:58] <pirate-king> how do you remove a kernel
[05:58] <Dr_willis> !unp
[05:58] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:58] <Hmmmm> guys, i have setup my domain on google apps. but cant get evolution to download mails
[05:58] <Dr_willis> cheeseboy16,  when in doubt fall back to the shell. i rarely ever use ark.
[05:58] <alanhaggai> How to repair the Ubuntu installation?
[05:59] <frying_fish> A microwave really shouldn't be causing a whole office to go down (unless you have too many things running off one circuit)
[05:59] <midgetg0at> so - no known vmware repair method?
[05:59] <cheeseboy16>  Dr_willis, how?
[05:59] <midgetg0at> yes frying, that is the thought.
[05:59] <midgetg0at> however, i dont feel like messing w/ a breaker box right now.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> cheeseboy16,  go to the shell, install the 7zip tool - and ark proberly will work. (also unstall 'unp') :)
[05:59] <compengi> AMAG, is the latest kernel 2.6.17.1-11.35?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> !find 7zip
[05:59] <ubotu> Found: p7zip, p7zip-full
[05:59] <Killer548> midgetg0at, try launching vmware from a shell, you'll get the error message to display and maybe there'll be an obvious fix
[05:59] <niyi> i really do feel like a n00b asking this question.... how do you install wine?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> cheeseboy16,  so install those packages -  p7zip, p7zip-full  - i bet ark will work then.
[06:00] <cherva> can someone help me how to fix my GDM after the kernel update i have uninstalled the nvidia drivers installed them again and still then i change the Driver from "nv" to "nvidia" booom blue screen and it says no displays found !
[06:00] <vox754> alanhaggai: how did you mess up? I guess only thing is fresh reinstall. Or maybe reinstalling "gnome-desktop"
[06:00] <niyi> i cant seem to get it to work
[06:00] <midgetg0at> Killer: alright, i'll give it a shot....
[06:00] <frying_fish> midgetg0at: if vmware was installed from apt, then could aptitude remove --reinstall vmware
[06:00] <alanhaggai> niyi: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:00] <niyi> done that
[06:00] <Dr_willis> niyi,  then 'wine whatever.exe'
[06:00] <niyi> it says that im not root
[06:00] <midgetg0at> that wont mess my images up frying?
[06:00] <alanhaggai> vox754: No idea why. But many of the menus have disappeared.
[06:00] <lotusleaf> niyi: also see #winehq
[06:00] <alanhaggai> niyi: use sudo
[06:01] <bucketfan99> yeah Dr_willis it is
[06:01] <frying_fish> midgetg0at: no, since they are just files stored on your system, that aren't config files for it
[06:01] <frying_fish> so that should be fine
[06:01] <midgetg0at> ok, i'll give it a go.
[06:01] <bucketfan99> but it shows up in dmesg
[06:01] <bucketfan99> but then no etho devies
[06:01] <instabin> I can not install the new kernel update they are grayed out.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> bucketfan99,  i would guess its not loading the network card module
[06:01] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: My ff quit unexpect for unknown reasom after I installed flashplayer 9 and I looked in about:config something whacked up on network.IDN.blacklist_chars
[06:02] <Dr_willis> bucketfan99,  could boot a live cd - see if it works.. if so see what modules its loading.
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Hmmm... I would think long and hard before running 'sudo wine program.exe'
[06:02] <midgetg0at> "  This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers."
[06:02] <vox754> instabin: don't install, it is still buggy.
[06:02] <bucketfan99> hmm thefn load them manually ?
[06:02] <bucketfan99> Ok i'll do that
[06:02] <Dr_willis> EnsignRedshirt,  i think his root thing was with the Installing of it..
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <AVN`> hey, my mouse doesn;t show up... help?
[06:02] <bucketfan99> there is no way to run through the detection portion of the installer without insatlling tho ?
[06:02] <frying_fish> midgetg0at: the command might be slightly different
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Dr_willis: Oh, I see.
[06:02] <frying_fish> try apt-get , or do it in synaptic
[06:02] <midgetg0at> sux being a nub :)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> bucketfan99,  never needed to mess with it that way.  so not sure.. this is where being a old-timer hurts the newbs.. i KNOW what modules my network cards need.. :) so iwould just put the module in the autoload module list.
[06:03] <cherva> can someone help me how to fix my GDM after the kernel update i have uninstalled the nvidia drivers installed them again and still then i change the Driver from "nv" to "nvidia" booom blue screen and it says no displays found !
[06:03] <bucketfan99> sur eman. i'll give that s hot.cya
[06:03] <bucketfan99> thanks :)
[06:03] <rgl> gee.  this is not working :(
[06:03] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux , no idea ... dont have much experience with firefox
[06:03] <AVN`> hey, my mouse doesn;t show up... help?  It works, but there is no image,
[06:04] <train> anyone knwo who to do a domain query through telnet?
[06:04] <rammsteined> Hey, whenever I try to login I get a message telling me that ~/.dmrc can't be accessed... what should I do?
[06:04] <rgl> how do I enable extra consoles?  its not enough to edit /etc/inittab?
[06:04] <tritesnikov> hi all, when i have my num lock key on my +, -, * and / keys don't work. anyone know how to fix this?
[06:04] <bona> allow
[06:04] <frying_fish> midgetg0at: synaptic may be the better choice as you can get the right package then.
[06:04] <train> I thought it was like telnet internic.net
[06:04] <train> but thats not right
[06:04] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: okay, someone might know the problem
[06:04] <frying_fish> rgl more than 6?
[06:04] <rgl> frying_fish, no.  two would be enough!
[06:05] <Boing> Hi the pwc driver shows only grey screen for webcam since update to 2.6.17.11 any help appreciated
[06:05] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux , maybe try treinstalling FF ?
[06:05] <rgl> frying_fish, I can only press Ctrl+alt+f1 ... no other console works :(
[06:05] <frying_fish> hummn
[06:05] <frying_fish> odd
[06:05] <PwcrLinux> Grey: where I can reinstall it?
[06:06] <train> anyone know of a howto that allows me to add my NTFS partitions, and create a link to it on the desktop
[06:06] <train> I foudn the script to do it a while back
[06:06] <vox754> Boing: there are problems with kernel updates, don't upgrade. There is more info in the forums.
[06:06] <train> I dont know where to find it
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:06] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:06] <cherva> can someone help me how to fix my GDM after the kernel update i have uninstalled the nvidia drivers installed them again and still then i change the Driver from "nv" to "nvidia" booom blue screen and it says no displays found !
[06:07] <vox754> train: I think you only need to mount the partition on /media and then a link is created automatically
[06:07] <Boing> vox754 thanks - pity, it releases the webcam now in aMSN but that's not much use if it's all grey :)
[06:07] <train> are you sure about that?
[06:07] <GreyGhost> cya all ... bight
[06:07] <train> I'll give it a shot
[06:07] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: couldn't find it
[06:08] <ruzgar> I have a Ati radeon 9600
[06:08] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux , ok .. run  "apt-cache search firefox" and put the name of the pacaakge in "apt-get .."
[06:08] <ruzgar> when I select  opensource "ati" drivers
[06:08] <ruzgar> I can't change the refresh rate for my tft monitor
[06:08] <midgetg0at> just ran sudo vmware in console - told me config was screwed up - going through "reconfigure" process...which is really just a bunch of <enter>'s
[06:08] <ruzgar> that is always 60hz
[06:09] <midgetg0at> bah, i have ot reenter my serial number?!??
[06:09] <midgetg0at> i donno where that is!
[06:09] <train> that didn't work vox754
[06:09] <ruzgar> fglrx dirver doesnt make a problem I can change the refresh rate when I use that dirver but beryl doesnt work no that
[06:09] <ruzgar> ??
[06:09] <midgetg0at> hah, but vmware is backup, thants for pointing out the obvous "run in console - you'll get an error message for a simple fix".
[06:09] <rgl> jeebuz.  to reread inittab is not enought to do a telinit q ?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> midgetg0at,  if its reinstalling over a prev install. it kept the old serial # in a file.. unless you whiped it out.
[06:09] <train> vox754: how do I mount the partition so all users can see the counts?
[06:10] <vox754> train: I read it somewhere... you checked your "places"?
[06:10] <Killer548> ;)
[06:10] <jvai> fiesty will replace daper when it's tyme right? in 2008
[06:10] <midgetg0at> yea, it must've because i'm back in business. thanks again guys. back to work.
[06:10] <train> vox754: its a permissions thing do you know how to mount it rw for all users?
[06:10] <vox754> !fiesty
[06:10] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <PwcrLinux> Grey: Hmm no english file name on it..
[06:11] <EnsignRedshirt> jvai: Feisty is due to be released this April, but that doesn't mean it "replaces" edgy.  Edgy will still be supported.
[06:11] <xTERMiNATOR> I am not able to 'tick mark' the menus in 'Menu Layout'. Any help?
[06:11] <vox754> train: but is it NTFS? You edit your "/etc/fstab" and set apropriate "gid" and "uid" and maybe "oid"
[06:12] <train> ARGH
[06:12] <jvai> ooooh, what when dapper isnt supported in 2009? will it be replaced with fiesty?
[06:12] <sigger_> never used ubuntu desktop (only server).  How do I use the GUI/desktop to mount an nfs share? (I see how to mount samba shares, but no mention of nfs)
[06:12] <ruzgar> how can I make scroll in man pages ??
[06:12] <PwcrLinux> Grey: you there?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> ruzgar,  try 'man less' to learn how the less reader works.
[06:12] <Music_Shuffle> ruzgar, down arrow...?
[06:12] <quaal> what is NFS ?
[06:12] <yellow> jvai, by then you'd probably want to switch to the latest ubuntu at that time
[06:13] <Music_Shuffle> !NFS | quaal
[06:13] <ubotu> quaal: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> ruzgar,  try pageup/down ?
[06:13] <rgl> frying_fish, oh well, inittab is ignored on ubuntu due to the upstart thing
[06:13] <ruzgar> both of them doesnt work
[06:13] <sigger_> ooh, nfs not normally in ubuntu desktop?
[06:13] <jvai> yellow: i kno that.. but which "ubuntu will that be?
[06:13] <ruzgar> or maybe the file is very short
[06:13] <ruzgar> ok
[06:13] <frying_fish> ahh
[06:13] <ruzgar> thx
[06:13] <frying_fish> yeah I need to figure out how to beat upstart into submission
[06:14] <yellow> jvai, htf would i know ? i don't think mark shuttleworth knows either
[06:14] <vox754> ruzgar: wow, that was some short question-answer...
[06:14] <jvai> lo.. nevamind.. development is too fast! sh*t they may extent dapper for anothr 100 years ... lol
[06:14] <quaal> sigger_, go to system/administration/shared folders
[06:14] <EnsignRedshirt> jvai: A new version is released every six months. By then, you will have several choices, including whatever the "Long Term Support" version is.
[06:14] <quaal> sigger_, click on the folder, properties button
[06:14] <PwcrLinux> Oh well...
[06:14] <yellow> jvai, (at this time taht is)
[06:14] <quaal> sigger_, should be a dropdown box to pick from samba/nfs
[06:14] <jvai> riiight. gotcha
[06:15] <ruzgar> vox754, in wiki ubuntu that had been said that when I want to get information about open source ati drivers I should try "man ati"
[06:15] <sigger_> quaal: thanks.trying.
[06:15] <cheeseboy16> how do i unzip a .7z from terminal?
[06:15] <ruzgar> vox754, but that file contains very little information
[06:15] <yellow> jvai, and i'm running dapper btw, so no fret :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !find 7zip
[06:15] <jvai> <-- same @ yellow
[06:15] <ubotu> Found: p7zip, p7zip-full
[06:16] <yellow> jvai, =)
[06:16] <jvai> oi
[06:16] <vox754> ruzgar: that is correct. Want to read a BIG man page? Try "man bash".
[06:16] <ruzgar> :) ok
[06:17] <Dr_willis> cheeseboy16,  $ p7zip --help -------> Usage: /usr/bin/p7zip [-d]  [-h|--help]  [file] 
[06:17] <jvai> & when ever i upgrade, i wanna take the start up & showdown sounds w/ me... i dont like the new 1's
[06:17] <AndrewB> !vital services
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vital services - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <PieFinger> hilo
[06:17] <AVN`> my mouse has no picture! it works, but I can't see the cursur, please help
[06:17] <yellow> jvai, you can always save them to to a backup place for later use ^^!
[06:18] <Phopsy> Blimey, Kopete didn't like that! Anyway, I just installed the kernel updates and now my FGLRX driver has rolled back to Mesa - how do I go about gettting the darned thing back again?
[06:18] <maynoth42> :(
[06:18] <jvai> riight
[06:18] <maynoth42> I tried the xorg gui config
[06:18] <maynoth42> but it doesn't seem to actually be able to change anything
[06:18] <maynoth42> still stuck at 256 colors
[06:18] <vox754> Phopsy: there are problems with kernel updates, don't upgrade. There is more info in the forums.
[06:19] <Phopsy> vox754: Thanks :D It's a tad late now, though, so I guess I'm stuck with Mesa for a while
[06:19] <sigger_> quaal: ah, thx.  didn't read and found out that Ubuntu doesn't have nfs installed by default.  Duh, just realized my ubuntu servers at work only use samba.
[06:20] <Boing> vox754 I cleaned out the old pwc modules and reinstalled the one I had working in 2.6.17.10 and it works fine now
[06:20] <jvai> yes, twice i got the new kernel updates forwarded, but dapper wouldnt update them, said i needed to do a dist. upgrade 1st
[06:20] <quaal> sigger_, no prob
[06:20] <noiano> hello
[06:20] <quaal> hi
[06:20] <ul1024k> when I try to boot ubuntu it doesn't and the, on recovery mode it says "DSDT not found"... does anyone can help with that?
[06:21] <noiano> silly question: what do I need to download from a svn server?
[06:21] <vox754> Boing: good. Be sure to tell everyone not to update to the new kernel yet.
[06:21] <noiano> vox754: why?
[06:21] <kuw88_> how can i get realplayer for ubuntu6.6?
[06:21] <PwcrLinux> Oh boy, SPM are not linked to server (can't find or dir) I am on breezy
[06:21] <Phopsy> kuw88_: because it's rubbish, frankly :D
[06:21] <FurryNemesis> vox754, far too late, luckily I'm just trying to get my desktop items back
[06:21] <vox754> noiano: there are problems with kernel updates, don't upgrade. There is more info in the forums.
[06:22] <EnsignRedshirt> noiano: For subversion: sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:22] <AVN`> don't upgrade the kernal?
[06:22] <AVN`> good to know
[06:22] <noiano> thanks EnsignRedshirt
[06:22] <FurryNemesis> yes, stay away for now
[06:22] <Phopsy> ...So, how do I go about rolling back?
[06:22] <rgl> anyone  known how to "start" /etc/event.d/tty2 ?!
[06:23] <vox754> There is a bot message about the new kernel, but I don't remember it.
[06:23] <kuw88_> i need real palyer for ubuntu 6.6?
[06:23] <Phopsy> Cheers, vox, I'll have a quick look on the forums (Y)
[06:23] <LjL> vox754: it's not there anymore, since those problems were fixed.
[06:23] <PwcrLinux> anyone who's on breezy?
[06:23] <FurryNemesis> kuw88_, you need the wm32 codecs from the repos
[06:23] <quaal> kuw88_, why would you NEED realplayer
[06:23] <Pntkl> Hi
[06:23] <Mongo2> hello
[06:23] <Pntkl> ??
[06:23] <Mongo2> I'll soon find out
[06:23] <maynoth42> ok I just changed all the depths in xorg.conf to 24 maybe that will work...
[06:24] <vox754> LjL: you sure?, because people seem to have problems still
[06:24] <maynoth42> anyone know how to reboot xorg without locking up the system
[06:24] <maynoth42> ?
[06:24] <mnabil> !maplyer
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maplyer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <Murf> Hello. Is there anybody here who could help with an ndiswrapper issue?
[06:24] <yellow> jvai, it's in /usr/share/sound
[06:24] <LjL> vox754: probably different problems (such as having unofficial drivers for their video cards which, of course, won't work with the new kernel unless they are updated)
[06:24] <cypherdelic> how to get cryptsetup-luks volumes acces with ubuntu  livecd
[06:24] <kuw88_> <quaal coz there web site  need this realplayer
[06:24] <jvai> aaaaaah! ty sooo much @ yellow!!!
[06:25] <yellow> jvai, np
[06:25] <cypherdelic> i want to copy my root partition two another partition
[06:25] <harisund> Murf: what does ndiswrapper issue?
[06:25] <cypherdelic> but it crashes
[06:25] <cypherdelic> the hole laptop does not respond, any ideas
[06:25] <vox754> LjL: well, make a bot message with this info "the kernel updates have been fixed, but you may need to update your unofficial drivers also"
[06:25] <maynoth42> GreyGhost you still around?
[06:25] <B_166-ER-X> When a cd/dvd rom  is stuck in a loop (or something) while trying to read a file that is unreadable, and it wont eject or umount , what would be the command to know exaclty what process are used by the cd-rom ?
[06:25] <kuw88_> wm32 codecs from the repos where can i get this
[06:25] <Murf> harisund: I've got it to the point where I get "driver present, hardware present" when I type ndiswrapper -l.
[06:26] <Murf> And then I did iwconfig to set it up.
[06:26] <harisund> B_166-ER-X: I believe there is a command called fuser. Try fuser /dev/hdc or /dev/cd_rom_device ..
[06:26] <Murf> harisund: But I'm not getting any lights on the wireless card.
[06:26] <vox754> harisund: talk in #ndiswrapper, you can talk privately there.
[06:27] <harisund> vox754: is #ndiswrapper on freenode?
[06:27] <Murf> harisund: thanks!
[06:27] <LjL> vox754: hardly very useful. someone who knows how something like "updating one's unofficial drivers" is done is unlikely to *need* to be told that in the first place - and those who don't know (well, unofficial repositories *do* have huge disclaimers usually, but anyway...) will have as much of a clue as before
[06:27] <FurryNemesis> kuw88_, use synaptic - if you have enabled universe and multiverse they should be in there
[06:27] <Eranmane> OK, here's the deal. I want to install Ubuntu on a Dell inspiron.
[06:27] <zyth> Is there some sort of problem with security.ubuntu.com ? I can't get any header listing from it, it just times out.  All the other repos work fine when I apt-get update
[06:27] <jvai> kuw88_, i got them thru synaptic, w/ multi & universe enabled.. the yshowed up
[06:27] <FurryNemesis> zyth, I had the same problem, just keep trying
[06:27] <Eranmane> Problem is that a Dell Inspiron won't boot from CD properly.
[06:27] <PwcrLinux> Zyth: yep I got same thing on my breezy
[06:28] <frying_fish> Eranmane: what model, and why won't it boot from cd?
[06:28] <zyth> hm k
[06:28] <ruzgar> I can't change the refreshing rate when I use the open source ati drivers ?
[06:28] <LjL> maynoth42: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X
[06:28] <frying_fish> my inspiron 630m will boot from cd (if I tell it to)
[06:28] <ruzgar> can somebody help me?
[06:28] <harisund> B_166-ER-X: did you get what you were looking for?
[06:28] <FingerPie> wont boot from CD "properly"
[06:28] <FingerPie> ?
[06:28] <B_166-ER-X> harisund nope, the command doesnt return anything
[06:29] <Eranmane> frying_fish: I'll check model later, and it won't boot from CD because whenever I try to, it simply returns to Windows.
[06:29] <__doc__> hi, a question. Can I autohide the desktop panels completely, such that they're not showing at all (instead of reatreating up to 3 px)
[06:29] <frying_fish> I think you just need to mash F12 a few times when you turn it on
[06:29] <vox754> LjL: well, I'm trusting you on that. But still info should be given.
[06:29] <PwcrLinux> let me check pings on them..
[06:29] <brombomb> If I install apache Where is the root dir for webpages?
[06:29] <AVN`> anyone have any suggestions for my cursur that has no image?
[06:29] <frying_fish> Eranmane: you have to hit F12 when you turn the computer on, then select CD
[06:29] <harisund> B_166-ER-X: did you enter the name of your CD rom device? (It might not necessarily be hdc on your machine)
[06:29] <mphill> nautilus won't show all the files on my hd, just media and home.  what gives?
[06:29] <Eranmane> frying_fish: I know.
[06:29] <frying_fish> then whats the problem?
[06:29] <Eranmane> When I select CD, it boots Windows anyway.
[06:29] <frying_fish> then the CD isn't a bootable cd
[06:29] <FingerPie> yes F12 or F2 for dell
[06:30] <B_166-ER-X> yup, although i'm TRYING to confirm that it was hdc, but now nautilus is frozen. :)
[06:30] <Eranmane> It boots on my desktop...
[06:30] <frying_fish> you haven't made the cd correctly.
[06:30] <FurryNemesis> Eranmane, did you write the CD in ISO format?
[06:30] <PwcrLinux> security.ubuntu.com seem alive.. prolly just a server crashed
[06:30] <harisund> B_166-ER-X: can you get back to any kind of a shell? A Ctrl-Alt-F1 perhaps? SSH login?
[06:30] <frying_fish> Eranmane: does it just completely skip the cd, or at least attempt to load from it.
[06:30] <DigitalNinja> I'm updating a server. One of the packages beeing updated is "linux-server". Do I need to do a reboot?
[06:30] <rammsteined> Hey, whenever I login I get this error: "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users." :/
[06:30] <B_166-ER-X> harisund yes
[06:30] <maynoth42> :(
[06:31] <Megaqwerty> Where do I go to configure all keybindings? (including Alt-F4)
[06:31] <rammsteined> what should I do?
[06:31] <harisund>  B_166-ER-X ok ..then execute "mount" to know where your CD rom is mounted...and what your CD device is. Then try fuser /dev/cd.device
[06:31] <FingerPie> give it permissions
[06:31] <_Jaak_> lupine_85, when do you think the nvidia drivers from you're repo will be kernel ready?
[06:31] <maynoth42> ok well I guess it needed a format anyway
[06:31] <maynoth42> seems I have to format ubuntu a heck of a lot more than windows...
[06:31] <maynoth42> *_*
[06:31] <lupine_85> _Jaak_: I'm getting there
[06:31] <maynoth42> :B
[06:31] <lupine_85> just uploading the last ones now
[06:31] <TomEstat> Hi, i'm in trouble while trying to compile dss-vst0.4 on a fresh Ubuntu system. Can anybody help ??
[06:32] <FingerPie> format ubuntu?
[06:32] <maynoth42> yeah
[06:32] <frying_fish> maynoth42: not true, unless you're doing silly things (and tbh most can be recovered without a reinstall)
[06:32] <maynoth42> well im asking
[06:32] <lupine_85> the whole process involves maybe a gigabyte of data
[06:32] <_Jaak_> lupine_85, thanks for you're efforts!
[06:32] <maynoth42> last time I updated something
[06:32] <maynoth42> and it broke X
[06:32] <ul1024k> when I try to boot ubuntu it doesn't and then, on recovery mode, it says "DSDT not found"... does anyone can help with that?
[06:32] <Eranmane> I got the 6.06 LTS from https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ so it shouldn't be a write problem. Laptop doesn't seem to recognise CD at all even under windows.
[06:32] <maynoth42> so I had to reformat
[06:32] <frying_fish> maynoth42: no you don't
[06:32] <B_166-ER-X> harisund, it was indeed, hdc, and it still doenst return anything
[06:32] <Megaqwerty> where is the keyboard bindings configuration file?
[06:32] <lupine_85> enjoy it while it lasts :p
[06:32] <AVN`> can somebody help me?
[06:32] <maynoth42> well anywho frying
[06:32] <frying_fish> not just because X broke, doesn't mean you have to format, the rest of the system works, so you can just go back to other things to make X work.
[06:32] <maynoth42> perhaps you can help me
[06:32] <Bsims> Grr, rdiff-backup is ignoring something in my exclude any ideas
[06:32] <harisund> B_166-ER-X: what happens if you try to umount /dev/hdc? Does it say the device is in use?
[06:33] <maynoth42> my colors are stuck
[06:33] <B_166-ER-X> harisund yes
[06:33] <maynoth42> at 256
[06:33] <brombomb> is there a way to "sudo" a file drag and drop?
[06:33] <frying_fish> Eranmane: problem with the cd drive then.
[06:33] <maynoth42> xorg.conf says its 24
[06:33] <maynoth42> if you know how to fix it without a format im all ears
[06:33] <kritzstapf> i installed kiba-dock and messed up with the settings, how to reset them do the state they were after apt-get-installing?
[06:33] <frying_fish> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help ?
[06:33] <harisund> B_166-ER-X: that's funny .. but we are not able to find out what process  is using it, right? Can you try and figure out something from the listing of ps -axjf or something on your terminal?
[06:33] <Eranmane> It can read my other cds... Fine. Is there an "alternative" Ubuntu install I can try?
[06:34] <maynoth42> ill give it a shot
[06:34] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help me with my aforementioned issue?^^
[06:34] <frying_fish> I would say if the cd is working in another machine, but not that one, then the machine is at fault
[06:34] <FurryNemesis> anyone know how to restore desktop icons? my update *nearly* went smoothly apart from this......
[06:34] <kuw88_> i find the real player >?
[06:34] <Megaqwerty> mnsg ubotu gconf
[06:34] <Megaqwerty> whoops
[06:34] <kuw88_> \where can i find the real player?
[06:35] <maynoth42> frying_fish... I have no clue what answers I am supposed to give :(
[06:35] <dxdt> FurryNemesis, which icons?  Most you can just drag back onto the desktop
[06:35] <Bsims> Is there a better group to ask my question in?
[06:35] <billy> hello, having a problem with getting swat to run on ubuntu 6.10 . i've edited /etc/service  to include 'swat 901/tcp ' and created /etc/xinet.d/swat to have 'service swat { port 901 etc ..' I just get  page not found etc  when I localhost:901 etc. what have i missed thanks
[06:35] <gbjk> Good afternoon.
[06:35] <B_166-ER-X> harisund, i' ll continue my quest for this problem... i dont see anything special in the ps -axjf, so, i'll get back to you i i find something, thanx
[06:35] <carl> kung, download it with automatix
[06:35] <gbjk> I'm about to ask some pretty fscking stupid questions, so sorry in advance.
[06:35] <kung> huh?
[06:35] <rammsteined> Anyone know?
[06:35] <zero88> does anybody know what the apt-get install name for the ieee80211 system is?
[06:35] <carl> kuw88_, automatix mmake that
[06:35] <brombomb> How do I copy a dir ?
[06:36] <gbjk> I've used linux for many years, but always without a gui (server online)
[06:36] <harisund> B_166-ER-X: ok thanks :)
[06:36] <kung> ;)
[06:36] <jvai> i wanna be like u @ gbjk.... i cant do that.. well, i find it hard
[06:36] <Bsims> maynoth42: have you restarted X
[06:36] <gbjk> I've finally managed to get ubuntu working on an old machine with a voodoo 3, 128mb ram, and some sort of hamster wheel processor made by intel.
[06:36] <maynoth42> I rebooted
[06:36] <gbjk> Swap?
[06:36] <rammsteined> I own .dmrc, and it is modded to 644, so why does it say it isn't? :(
[06:36] <ahave> is networking ubuntu w/ windows based networks for file/print sharing 'hard' ?
[06:37] <gbjk> So, anyway...
[06:37] <mister_roboto> brombomb: cp -R
[06:37] <FurryNemesis> dxdt, that's true, but what's happening is that my nautilus is showing all the things I normally have on the desktop, whereas my desktop is actually blank apart from my wallpaper. That, and I can't click
[06:37] <Bsims> Grr, rdiff-backup is ignoring something in my exclude file any ideas?
[06:37] <gbjk> Using the gui interface to change the screen resolution gives me no options other than 600x480
[06:37] <brombomb> mister_roboto: thanks
[06:37] <baluk> hi all
[06:37] <funkja> What should my fstab entry look like if I want to mount /dev/sda3 to /home/funkja/ with the permissions drwxr-xr-x and ownership funkja.funkja?
[06:37] <baluk> anyone to help me on crontab..
[06:38] <gbjk> Ironically this resolution is so small that I can't even manage to configure things, because the default size of the windows is too big to fit onto the screen, when resized to minimum :D
[06:38] <EnsignRedshirt> !anyone | baluk
[06:38] <ubotu> baluk: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:38] <gbjk> baluk: Ask, don't ask to ask.
[06:38] <rammsteined> this is the thing for ~/.dmrc: -rw-r--r-- 1 rowan users 0 2007-02-11 01:10 /home/rowan/.dmrc
[06:38] <dxdt> ahave, not really if you are just talking like getting your Ubuntu machine to see the shared folders and shared printing.  I networked to my fathers windows xp shared printer in under two minutes.  Like literally just point and click for me.
[06:38] <ruzgar> how can i reconfigure my dpkg
[06:38] <ruzgar> how is the command ?
[06:38] <ruzgar> !dpkg
[06:38] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:38] <ruzgar> ?????
[06:38] <gbjk> I assume I get no option to change to a bigger resolution because the device isn't installed or configured properly.
[06:38] <kritzstapf> i installed kiba-dock and messed up with the settings, how to reset them do the state they were after apt-get-installing?
[06:38] <baluk> crontab despite the regular entries is not working
[06:38] <gbjk> Am I right?
[06:38] <kritzstapf> :\
[06:39] <dxdt> FurryNemesis, oh weird, I have no idea then.  Maybe someone else with more Ubuntu Fu knows.
[06:39] <ruzgar> dpkg -re.... ???
[06:39] <AVN`> How can I get my cursor to show up?
[06:39] <lupine_85> _Jaak_: want to test it?
[06:39] <ahave> dxdt>>  can you link me to a tutorial?
[06:39] <FurryNemesis> dxdt, yep.... thx though
[06:39] <_Jaak_> sure
[06:39] <ahave> dxdt>>  or just explpain how?
[06:39] <gbjk> baluk: Much more likely is that you've done something wrong. Use a paste page (topic) to show what it is you've done.
[06:39] <_Jaak_> ill test it on my test machine
[06:39] <gbjk> So, back to my problem ( if anyone is listening )
[06:39] <_Jaak_> it's slow
[06:39] <_Jaak_> very slow
[06:40] <gbjk> How do I tell if 1) "Drivers" are installed for the sound card
[06:40] <gbjk> 2) The sound card is configured properly.
[06:40] <dxdt> ahave, umm  really if the shares are already setup, and we are just talking like basic windows workgroup sharing it is as easy as clicking Places >> Network Servers >> and then Windows Network >> and from there you navigate the workgroups like you do in windows.
[06:40] <gbjk> Device manager shows the device, and the pci reports it's state correctly.
[06:40] <geokok> I was affected by the recent kernel problem and I lost X. Although I booted in the old kernel and downgraded to the previous version (10) grub still boots in the flawed (11). How can I fix that?
[06:40] <gbjk> And if anyone wants to help me and can do so in console I'd be much more comfortable there than in the gui.
[06:40] <ahave> dxdt, hmm. i thought i have that setup but my windows network folder is empty..
[06:41] <gbjk> Actually, Maybe I should take a looksee at the x11.conf. That's what ubuntu would use, right?
[06:41] <LjL> geokok, can't you just tell grub to boot 10 by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[06:41] <Megaqwerty> Can anyone help me with my keyboard?
[06:41] <kenny20> hi
[06:41] <baluk> how do i paste a page
[06:41] <ahave> dxdt, and with this method if i setup a folder on my linux box to be shared.. will my XP boxes be able to see it?
[06:41] <DigitalNinja> is there something wrong with security.ubuntu.com? I'm not getting updates from that server.
[06:41] <kenny20> I would like to sign the packages of my repository, without falcon.
[06:41] <kenny20> can u help me ?
[06:41] <rammsteined> Anyone? This is making my hair fall out :/
[06:41] <kenny20> (a tutorial for example)
[06:41] <geokok> LjL I guess I can but 1.) I dont know how :) 2.) Shouldn't the downgrade fix that?
[06:41] <kenny20> thanks in advance
[06:42] <J-_> I'm getting serious DDOS attacks, is there any way I can stop them from happening?
[06:42] <pecisk> what's up with security.ubuntu.com?
[06:42] <Betatux> Question : Does anyone know of any third party programs that can scan for virusses when downloading or uploading files through the WebDAV protocol ?
[06:42] <FurryNemesis> it;s down
[06:42] <FurryNemesis> hee hee
[06:42] <pecisk> FurryNemesis: thanks
[06:42] <MrJeep> hi
[06:42] <MrJeep> I'm wondering
[06:42] <MrJeep> is the last version for download also a live cd ?
[06:42] <geokok> LjL U gave the path to the file soory I did not notice at first.
[06:42] <pecisk> J-_: there are various ways to deal with it, but they are rather difficult
[06:42] <Megaqwerty> Windows only raise when I click on their titlebars. How do I fix this?
[06:43] <dxdt> ahave, that I'm not sure about.  I don't think so.  Though I have shared stuff in the past using the command line and it was fairly easy to do.  Just google around for samba and stuff if you need to on that.  I wish I had a windows box around still I could help you more :-/
[06:43] <gbjk> WTF - No /etc/bashrc by default. None at all
[06:43] <EnsignRedshirt> MrJeep: Yes.
[06:43] <ahave> dxdt, alright. thanks for your help
[06:43] <J-_> pecisk: do you know of any tutorials I can use do deal with it?
[06:43] <mnabil> how can i install mplayer on ubuntu edgy ?
[06:43] <MrJeep> let's hope it's going to work great on my laptop (Toshiba A100)
[06:43] <baluk> does anyone faced problems wit crontab
[06:43] <dxdt> mnabil, sudo apt-get install mplayer I think
[06:43] <dxdt> mnabil, or using synaptic search for mplayer
[06:44] <gbjk> baluk: Paste your config to the pastebot (Topic)
[06:44] <Betatux> mnabil , have you tried automatix ?
[06:44] <LjL> !automatix
[06:44] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:44] <J-_> eww
[06:44] <Betatux> oO :D
[06:45] <HaMF> HI
[06:45] <Megaqwerty> Windows only raise when I click on their titlebars. How do I fix this?
[06:45] <Bsims> lets try this again... all I want to do is backup with rdiff-backup like I did weekly on Debian... but for some reason known only to the Great GNU it wants to try to recurse its own backup ignoring my beautifully hand crafted exclude file... Anyone else have this issue?
[06:45] <EnsignRedshirt> MrJeep: This might be a bit old but worth a look: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba
[06:45] <Betatux> Anyone familiar with WebDAV ?
[06:45] <ul1024k> when I try to boot ubuntu it doesn't and then, on recovery mode, it says "DSDT not found"... does anyone can help with that?
[06:46] <geokok> LjL when should I perform the upgrade of the kernel? any news if it was fixed?
[06:46] <mnabil> Betatux: what is it ?
[06:46] <baluk> how do i paste  to the pastebot.. i'm on opera chat
[06:46] <HaMF> i upgraded my edgy to feisty. everything went "fine" except from gaim. it is no longer able to connect to icq. the status is "Waiting for network connection". how can i fix that?
[06:46] <gbjk> baluk: Visit the URL in the topic in your web browser.
[06:46] <jrib> HaMF: feisty help in #ubuntu+1
[06:46] <HaMF> thanks
[06:46] <Betatux> mnabil , i'm looking for a program that can scan files for virusses when files get uploaded or downloaded through the WebDAV protocol
[06:47] <lupine_85> _Jaak_: unsurprising
[06:47] <lupine_85> bear with it
[06:47] <EnsignRedshirt> MrJeep: Also try searching for ToshibaSatellite at wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:47] <LjL> geokok, the dependency problems are fixed. any problems with third-party X drivers is not a problem with Ubuntu...
[06:47] <lupine_85> I don't have teh munnie for a fast link for that server
[06:47] <pbureau> MrJeep, what kind of satellite you have ?
[06:47] <rammsteined> This is going to sound odd, but can someone put a copy of their ~/.dmrc file up on pastebin?
[06:47] <Betatux> mnabil, I've tried some programs already but none are good enough (streamav , mod_clamav , dansguardian , http antivirus proxy and mod_security)
[06:48] <dxdt> test
[06:48] <geokok> LjL I see your point but still I would like to know if the update would kill X
[06:49] <pbureau> Betatux, f-prot ?
[06:49] <LjL> geokok: if it did when you last tried, it probably still will.
[06:49] <J-_> !ddos
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ddos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <geokok> LjL and exactly how would ubuntu stop crashing when it will ship with the proprietary drivers by default?
[06:49] <seal`> edgy: I installed a configured ndiswrapper with win32 driver for my wifi card. Everything works fine, but when I boot system wifi is 'unavailable' (like there's no kernel module), but in `lsmod` i see ndiswrapper and when I `rmmod ndiswrapper && modprobe ndiswrapper` wifi works fine again (until next reboot)
[06:49] <LjL> geokok: there was no reason why you should have "downgraded" (if with that you mean you have *removed* the new kernel) anyway, all you need is to *boot* into the old kernel, no need to remove anything or wait before updating
[06:49] <Betatux> pbureau , i'll have a look thanks
[06:50] <MrJeep> anyone could explain to me what Beryl is, if it,s the same thing as xgl ??
[06:50] <lupine_85> they aren't the same thing :)
[06:50] <daviey> How can i mount / burn *.bin and *.cue files??
[06:50] <ompaul> MrJeep, it ain't and you can ask in #ubuntu-beryl
[06:50] <LjL> geokok, when it will ship with them by default, they will be updated in sync with the distribution. now that you're getting it from third party repositories (or even straight from nvidia/ati as "installers"), you'll have to wait until [if]  they fix things.
[06:50] <geokok>  MrJeep beryl is a fork of compiz and provide a 3d desktop like it
[06:50] <rammsteined> anyone? :/
[06:50] <Megaqwerty> Windows only raise when I click on their titlebars. How do I fix this?
[06:50] <LjL> geokok, that's the difference between official repositories and software installed in other ways.
[06:50] <lupine_85> !bchunk
[06:50] <ompaul> geokok, that question is still for ati and nvidia - what problems to video drivers cost users on other platforms
[06:50] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[06:50] <LjL> !bchunk | daviey
[06:50] <ubotu> daviey: please see above
[06:51] <lupine_85> ooh, upgrades
[06:51] <lupine_85> LjL: update to repo done
[06:51] <daviey> LjL, thanx
[06:51] <baluk> i have pasted the contents of crontab ..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5096/
[06:51] <LjL> lupine_85: thanks, checking it out
[06:51] <geokok> LjL thanks I wasn't aware of the full process. Thanks for your help. c ya
[06:51] <PwcrLinux> reinstalled flashplayer 9 and my FF still same thing..
[06:51] <lupine_85> haha, I'm being pwned
[06:52] <vox754> rammsteined: what for? what did you do?
[06:52] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: Try System->Preferences->Windows ... there might be an option in there to change the behavior.
[06:52] <lupine_85> Outgoing rate: 4999.6kbps
[06:52] <lupine_85> limit is 5,000
[06:52] <rammsteined> vox754: to try and work out what's wrong with mine/my system
[06:52] <jrib> PwcrLinux: same thing?  what do you mean exactly?
[06:52] <LjL> lupine_85: that's not me, my apt-get update is stuck on security.ubuntu.com ;)
[06:52] <vox754> rammsteined: you ready, this is a BIG file...
[06:53] <rammsteined> ok
[06:53] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: no, there isn't
[06:53] <Dr_willis> lJ i noticed that today also.
[06:53] <dxdt> anyone happen to know how I change the color of my own text in xchat so it shows up better?
[06:53] <vox754> rammsteined: just kidding, TWO lines: [Desktop] 
[06:53] <vox754> Session=default
[06:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: I have "Selected windows when the mouse mover over them" checked.  This gives the window focus when the mouse is over the window, and I can click anywhere to raise it.
[06:53] <lupine_85> no, it's the millions of other users
[06:53] <rammsteined> vox754: thanks
[06:53] <FingerPie> what client, xchat?
[06:53] <PwcrLinux> jrib: I reinstalled the flashplayer 9, I browsed websites the FF quits unexpectly, something wrong with FF or flashplayer 9?
[06:53] <dxdt> FingerPie, yeah
[06:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: I am using dapper... I don't know if this is the same in other versions of Ubuntu.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> PwcrLinux,  Yes. :)
[06:54] <LjL> Dr_willis: i think it's still just the burden from users downloading the new kernel. rememeber it all comes from security
[06:54] <FingerPie> there is options colors
[06:54] <maynoth42> I would pay 5-10 USD
[06:54] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: right, but I don't want the rollover part. Just that I can click anywhere on the window for it to be selected and raised
[06:54] <maynoth42> just to not have to reformat
[06:54] <LjL> !support > maynoth42    (maynoth42, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:54] <jrib> PwcrLinux: what is your display's bit depth?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> LjL,  i dident even SEE a kernel update listed in my updates. :) perhaps the server was so overloaded it got skipped
[06:54] <dxdt> FingerPie, seriously?  I've been looking there and I'm just not seeing it :-/
[06:54] <PwcrLinux> I am breezy
[06:54] <maynoth42> !support
[06:54] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc
[06:54] <PwcrLinux> let me look on screen settings brb
[06:54] <lupine_85> 110GB of users so far this month, and they're all going to update at once... :D
[06:54] <dxdt> FingerPie, what is it called in Colors
[06:55] <FingerPie> ummm, i dont have it running here, there is an item that sets all of the colors, messages, background etc
[06:55] <maynoth42> ugg I'll reformat before I pay $250 USD
[06:55] <maynoth42> :B
[06:55] <LjL> Dr_willis: edgy, 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17-11, and being quite a nuisance (first, they broke the dependencies - now they've fixed the dependencies, but everyone who has "bleeding edge" nvidia/ati drivers has their X, of course, broken)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> FingerPie,  i dont see a way to set the persons own text different color then the rest of the text.
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: do you understand?
[06:55] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: Yes, I see.
[06:55] <PwcrLinux> 1024x768 at 60 hz
[06:55] <orionrobots> Ah - that explains my problem rather well already.. Security site is drowning is it.. Are there mirrors?
[06:55] <DigitalNinja> Is there something going on with the Ubuntu servers? It's taking a long time to finish "apt-get update".
[06:55] <FingerPie> hang on looking up
[06:55] <dxdt> FingerPie, yeah I see those, but none of those seem to control my text color as they don't seem to change my text color when I change them
[06:55] <Danielv> Hello
[06:56] <orionrobots> My X was broken - so I set my xorg to NV. No GL for me until it is fixed then..
[06:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: I turned off that option.  I can click anywhere in a window to raise it.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> DigitalNinja,  yes.. theres a lot of updates getting hammered firhg now.
[06:56] <live> hello, how are you?
[06:56] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: right, but I can't
[06:56] <Dr_willis> DigitalNinja,  id say wait a day or so. :)
[06:56] <Danielv> i`m problem ..
[06:56] <live> a problem?
[06:56] <Danielv> kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)
[06:56] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: something happened to my computer, and I have no idea what, but it's been acting weird like that lately
[06:56] <PwcrLinux> jrib: 1024x768 at 60 Hz
[06:56] <tristanmike> Hi just updated and I have no unofficial sources, and after the kernel update, my Ubuntu wont start X or GDM....help please.
[06:57] <jrib> PwcrLinux: that's not your bit depth.  xdpyinfo| grep -i depth\ of\ root
[06:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: I think my debian setup acts like yours. I'm sure there is an option somewhere to change, but--sorry--I don't know what it is.
[06:57] <live> I don't know anything about it
[06:57] <tristanmike> I had to an earlier kernel
[06:57] <DigitalNinja> Dr_willis: Are you talking about users downloading or the Ubuntu developers updating the servers?
[06:57] <orionrobots> Tristan - are you using NVidia card?
[06:57] <tristanmike> yes
[06:57] <dxdt> FingerPie, nm I was able to get it by changing one of the random color numbers listed but I don't know how I'm supposed to know which color I was
[06:57] <kitche> tristanmike: if you use ati or nvidia drivers X is broken have to use nv or ati for now
[06:57] <justin420> hi everyone. anybody help with some hostname resolution issues with a certain application? I have NIC's one wired one wireless both I believe are setup correctly, but this one program cant seem to resolve hostnames anymore?
[06:57] <Danielv> you have idea? kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)
[06:57] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: I'm sure there is as well, but thanks for trying.
[06:57] <lupine_85> kitche: is it?
[06:57] <FingerPie> right, i remember having that prob, but i set it like a year ago and forgot
[06:57] <Dr_willis> DigitalNinja,  i think its a little of both.. :) apraently a kernel update has some 'issues'  - i think i will wait till next week to update
[06:57] <tristanmike> bah, thanks kitche and orionrobots. So do I just open xorg.conf and switch from nvidia to nv ?
[06:57] <kitche> tristanmike: unless of course you manually install the drivers yourself
[06:57] <orionrobots> Yes.
[06:58] <britt> how does one change the default login manager from gdm to kdm?
[06:58] <poohma> does totem usually work "out of the box" in ubuntu?  cant get it to work at all...  just tells me that I dont have the right plugin installed...
[06:58] <lupine_85> why is it broken?
[06:58] <LjL> tristanmike: that... or perhaps just boot from the old kernel?
[06:58] <orionrobots> Hmm - I should have thought of that too.
[06:58] <tristanmike> LjL: I'm doing that currently :D
[06:58] <davin> I need help on updating thru apt
[06:58] <kitche> lupine_85: ljl just said it :) a few lines ago
[06:58] <DigitalNinja> Dr_willis: Thanks for the info. I'll pass this allong to our local LUG.
[06:58] <PwcrLinux> jrib: here is
[06:58] <orionrobots> What exactly does the new Kernel bring anyway?
[06:58] <FingerPie> okay, it's in "your action" in the "text events" config
[06:58] <FingerPie> i remember now
[06:58] <PwcrLinux> opps
[06:58] <FingerPie> you have to edit "text events"
[06:58] <Megaqwerty> britt: in the login menu, select kdm or gdm (whichever one you want to use) and then say yes to the prompt that asks if you want to use it as your default setting
[06:58] <LjL> kitche: wait, are the *official* binary drivers broken with the new kernel too?
[06:58] <Mandrill> trying to mount an ntfs drive with fuse/ntfstmount and I get the message "windows did not shut down properly Try to mount volume in windows, shutdown and try again' the only problem with that being that I don't have windows running on the machine that the drive is in. Is there any way round this?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> DigitalNinja,  of course this may all get fixed by tomorrow. :)
[06:59] <tristanmike> Does this problem affect the versions right across the board or is it just a Dapper thing ?
[06:59] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: Try this: run gconf-editor, go to apps->metacity->general, and change raise-on-click
[06:59] <Megaqwerty> britt: or something to that extent
[06:59] <lupine_85> The official ones won't be, I'm almost certain
[06:59] <jrib> PwcrLinux: still not there... just run the command I gave you :)
[06:59] <orionrobots> I am on Edgy - got me too
[06:59] <anthony_> Hi guys, I installed scorched3d on ubuntu, when i load it.. all the text in the game is "garbage". anyone with a similar problem?
[06:59] <LjL> PwcrLinux, eerg, annoying
[06:59] <DigitalNinja> Dr_willis: You never know
[06:59] <kitche> LjL: don't think so as long as you install them correctly :)
[06:59] <Danielv> help, im installing ubuntu 6.10 on server adm64 , but say kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1), i need help
[06:59] <justin420> poohma: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:59] <CheshireViking> is anybody having problems with update manager, I'm getting an error about failed to fetch linux headers and could not connect to security.ubuntu.com?
[06:59] <orionrobots> Yes Viking.
[06:59] <PwcrLinux> Ljl, yea don't worry about it.. just someone want to ask.. hehe
[06:59] <LjL> CheshireViking: security.ubuntu.com is overloaded
[06:59] <orionrobots> The new kernel has the servers at capacity it appears..
[06:59] <kitche> LjL: they have to reinstall the driver each time the kernel gets updated anyways that's what the problem is no one made a package for the new module
[06:59] <orionrobots> I would not bother.
[07:00] <lupine_85> haha, if they can't cope I certainly can't
[07:00] <FingerPie> Dr willis\
[07:00] <CheshireViking> LjL: Thanks, I'll try again later
[07:00] <orionrobots> It is broken for now CheshireViking - leave it a few days for them to fix the fallout..
[07:00] <Megaqwerty> it is already selected...
[07:00] <vox754> LjL: told you, there are still problems. I will not update until the message in the forums is removed.
[07:00] <lupine_85> kitche: I just uploaded it - for the unofficial repo
[07:00] <tristanmike> LjL: Does this problem affect the versions right across the board or is it just a Dapper thing ?
[07:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone know of a program to convert a directory of mp3s to ogg files?
[07:00] <FunnyLookinHat> !restricted
[07:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:00] <PwcrLinux> jrib: 24 planes
[07:00] <orionrobots> Tristanmike - it is across the board.
[07:01] <jrib> FunnyLookinHat: mp32ogg
[07:01] <orionrobots> At least in Edgy, and Dapper. Not sure about Breezy
[07:01] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: it is already selected...but disabling and re-enableing helped a bit. now the windows get selected, but they aren't brought to the front
[07:01] <ubuntu> How much space should I give to the "/"  if I will have a separate partition for "/home" ?
[07:01] <LjL> tristanmike: actually i'm on Edgy and i thought Dapper didn't have any problem
[07:01] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: and in that same part of gconf-editor, change focus-mode to clickl
[07:01] <FunnyLookinHat> jrib, oh haha, thanks.   does it have a GUI?
[07:01] <lupine_85> ubuntu: 5 to 10 GB is normally fine
[07:01] <tristanmike> LjL: well, it's got it :P
[07:01] <jrib> FunnyLookinHat: not that I know of, maybe
[07:01] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: *click
[07:01] <rammsteined> vox754: thanks, although it didn't help :P
[07:01] <tristanmike> orionrobots: thanks orionrobots, LjL, and kitche you guys/girls rock.
[07:01] <tristanmike> I'll wait a few days
[07:01] <orionrobots> No worries.
[07:01] <justin420> anybody know how to unlock the extra pipes and shaders on a bfg geforce 6800 gs oc for edgy?
[07:01] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: nope, it's already at click :-(
[07:02] <vox754> rammsteined: yeah, probably a file won't solve all your problems.
[07:02] <poohma> thanks justin420 :-)
[07:02] <orionrobots> I am not going to update any of my other boxes for a week or so after this mess... At least a few other shave NV cards, and 3D apps we need..
[07:02] <jrib> PwcrLinux: hmm ok I thought it might be https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 but maybe not.  Lets try the workaround anyway, close all your firefox windows, then run this command: XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 firefox
[07:02] <justin420> poohma: no problem :)
[07:02] <rammsteined> vox754: it's odd, because its complaining about not having permissions to the file, but I've checked, and it does :(
[07:02] <lupine_85> justin420: -> V \. + Kick ;)
[07:02] <Hoosteen> hiyas...when the topic says the security repository is overloaded, would that be th reason why i can't install any updates?
[07:02] <orionrobots> YEs hoosteen
[07:02] <facugaich> are you all talking about the new -28- kernel? For some reason it's not being sellected by apt-get upgrade
[07:02] <Hoosteen> cool..thanks orionrobots!
[07:02] <PwcrLinux> Dr_willis: does your ff quits unexpectable after you installed FP 9?
[07:03] <orionrobots> Hoosteen - if you have an ATI or NV card - you dont want the updates now anyway.
[07:03] <Zaggynl> security.ubuntu.com is down/slow?
[07:03] <Hoosteen> just making sure i didn't screw something up..rofl
[07:03] <justin420> :/
[07:03] <Danielv> help, im installing ubuntu 6.10 on server adm64 , but say kernel panic -not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1), i need help
[07:03] <LjL> Zaggynl: reports seem to imply that.
[07:03] <Hoosteen> orionrobots: eek! yeah..ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[07:03] <Zaggynl> arf
[07:03] <lupine_85> there's an -18 kernel?
[07:03] <ubuntu> lupine_85: 5 to 10 gigs that is with the home folder included or considring a home folder being a separate partition ?
[07:03] <alanhaggai> Root is having sound. But sound is not working in users.
[07:03] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: If it helps at all, the titlebar stays gray until I click on the tilebar, which then causes the color to change, and the window to come to the front.
[07:03] <alanhaggai> Root is having sound. But sound is not working in users. Any help?
[07:03] <lupine_85> ubuntu: with a separate /home
[07:03] <jrib> alanhaggai: are they in the "audio" group?
[07:03] <rammsteined> can anyone help me with this error when I login? "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users."
[07:03] <jahid> can anyone tell me how can i install yahoo messenger?
[07:03] <alanhaggai> jrib: how to check?
[07:03] <vox754> rammsteined: in my system it has rw only for the owner, which is your user name, it is also in your group, and the group and others have no permissions at all.
[07:04] <jrib> alanhaggai: this command:  groups USERNAME_HERE
[07:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: I'm experimenting...
[07:04] <orionrobots> Hoosteen - don't get updates then - they will hose your X - and you will have to use the non 3d drivers.
[07:04] <facugaich> lupine_85, I meant 2.x.15-28 (don't remember the x)
[07:04] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: thanks.
[07:04] <ubuntu> lupine_85: do you recommedn a separate partition for home or put everything one one partition onlcuding / and home ?
[07:04] <alanhaggai> ok jrib
[07:04] <Hoosteen> orionrobots: eek!  thanks for the heads up..any idea when that issue will be resolved?
[07:04] <rammsteined> vox754: same for me
[07:04] <orionrobots> Hoosteen - I would love to know that myself.
[07:04] <Hoosteen> jahid: you can setup your Yahoo acct within Gaim
[07:04] <alanhaggai> jrib: audio group is not shown.
[07:05] <xtknight> hmm i used magic sys rq key to remount all my drives as RO (emergency freeze).  how do i get them back to rw ;)
[07:05] <Hoosteen> orionrobots: hehe..i hear ya...i'll stick around in here then...hehe
[07:05] <erisco> where are fonts located on Ubuntu 6.10?
[07:05] <jahid> Hoosteen, i dont want use gaim
[07:05] <jrib> alanhaggai: alternatively, you can use  system > administration > users and groups, select the user, and verify that the use can use audio devices.  You can also use this gui to add the users to that group.  If you prefer command line, you would add the user to the audio group with:  sudo adduser USERNAME_HERE audio
[07:05] <quaal> has anyone successfully mounted an existing raid-0 partition in ubuntu ?
[07:05] <vox754> erisco: type "locate font"
[07:05] <kitche> erisco: ~/.fonts is one spot where you should put fonts yourself unless you want them system wide
[07:05] <jahid> is there any software that can convert image from one format to another?
[07:05] <Hoosteen> jahid; ahh..well i dunno then...just been using linux like 1 week..hehe
[07:05] <jrib> jahid: imagemagick's  convert
[07:05] <jahid> Hoosteen, no worries. and thanks
[07:05] <orionrobots> Yes jahid. There is a command line  Convert in Imagemagick.
[07:06] <alanhaggai> jrib: Thanks a lot for that info :)
[07:06] <Pelo> jahid,  you should be able to do that in gimp
[07:06] <Mandrill> trying to mount an ntfs drive with fuse/ntfstmount and I get the message "windows did not shut down properly Try to mount volume in windows, shutdown and try again' the only problem with that being that I don't have windows running on the machine that the drive is in. Is there any way round this?
[07:06] <orionrobots> Yes gimp will do it.
[07:06] <redeeman> how would i get a replacement /usr/lib/apt/methods/http file? apparently it's gone
[07:06] <redeeman> ubuntu edgy, x86
[07:07] <orionrobots> Gone? How?
[07:07] <jrib> redeeman: maybe you can reinstall "apt", that's the pacakge that owns it
[07:07] <redeeman> i tried that
[07:07] <redeeman> by finding version of apt i had, and getting from mirrors and dpkg -i it
[07:07] <spankiez> any wine gurus around here?  I'm running Kubuntu 6.10, and I can't get notepad to run.  Here's what I get:
[07:07] <spankiez> $ notepad
[07:07] <spankiez> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[07:07] <jrib> redeeman: how about reinstalling?
[07:07] <spankiez> then the app comes up, and it's blank/frozen
[07:08] <py__> what is the command to switch to su in Ubuntu? (not sudo)... is it su -[something] ?
[07:08] <py__> e.g., live CD
[07:08] <jrib> py__: what does "switch to su" mean?
[07:08] <orionrobots> py__ - use sudo -s
[07:08] <orionrobots> if you want a root shell.
[07:08] <py__> orionrobots: thanks
[07:08] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: Sorry, I haven't found anything new.
[07:08] <orionrobots> redeeman - reinstalling would be extreme.
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: alright, well...thanks anyway
[07:09] <cypherdelic_> help i cant print. usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:09] <jrib> redeeman: I mean reinstalling "apt", not your system by the way :0
[07:09] <orionrobots> Have you checked which package it should actually belong to. I know apt seems obvious but that does not make it so..
[07:09] <PwcrLinux> jrib: seem works, try testing on websites for now
[07:09] <jahid> is there any pdf writer for ubuntu?
[07:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Megaqwerty: You might also try asking in #gnome (but I don't know how closely gnome and metacity are linked, so I don't know if they would consider the question off topic).
[07:09] <spankiez> openoffice
[07:09] <vox754> spankiez: why to use notepad? I had the same problem of 3D, and it seems a driver issue; you can't do much about it.
[07:09] <orionrobots> Sure - OpenOffice
[07:09] <cypherdelic_> help i cant print. usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:09] <jrib> jahid: openoffice can export to pdf
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> EnsignRedshirt: thanks
[07:10] <jvai> jahid, the pdf writers r in all open offfice apps, natively
[07:10] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:10] <PwcrLinux> jrib: aha, CPU spikes at 100, I guess the ads too much run CPU up
[07:10] <orionrobots> Cypherdelic_ - lsusb?
[07:10] <P235> hi, can someone help make sense of the recent notice of the kernel upgrade?
[07:11] <P235> <--- newbie here
[07:11] <jrib> PwcrLinux: yeah, flash sucks
[07:11] <orionrobots> P235 - I would leave it for a week if you have not yet done it.
[07:11] <spankiez> vox754: because if notepad won't run, then my wine mustn't be configured correctly.  I'm using the 'notepad' that comes with Wine (not Win's version)
[07:11] <Pelo> P235,  what was the notice ?
[07:11] <P235> let me see if I can paste it for you
[07:11] <cbrock> what would be better to upgrade to as a desktop OS, Ubuntu or Windows Vista?
[07:11] <orionrobots> The site is at capacity, so updates will be slow.
[07:11] <P235> ATTENTION:
[07:11] <PwcrLinux> Jrib: fan kicked in
[07:11] <P235> Due to an unavoidable ABI change the Ubuntu 6.06 and Ubuntu
[07:11] <P235> 6.10 kernel updates have been given a new version number, which
[07:11] <P235> requires you to recompile and reinstall all third party kernel modules
[07:11] <P235> you might have installed. If you use linux-restricted-modules, you
[07:11] <P235> have to update that package as well to get modules which work with the
[07:11] <P235> new kernel version. Unless you manually uninstalled the standard
[07:11] <P235> kernel metapackages (linux-386, linux-powerpc, linux-amd64-generic), a
[07:11] <P235> standard system upgrade will automatically perform this as well
[07:11] <jrib> PwcrLinux: don't paste ehre please
[07:11] <anthony_> Hi guys, I installed scorched3d on ubuntu, when i load it.. all the text in the game is "garbage". anyone with a similar problem?
[07:11] <P235> sorry
[07:12] <orionrobots> P235 - basically if you have an NV or ATI card you will find your X hosed.
[07:12] <Pelo> P235,  is your computer working properly ?
[07:12] <PwcrLinux> jrib: ??
[07:12] <P235> what are third party kernel modules?
[07:12] <jrib> PwcrLinux: wrong name, sorry :)
[07:12] <davin> can I change the filesystem of my usb hdd from NTFS to Ext3 without losing all my files?
[07:12] <Mandrill> cbrock: depends what you want to do, If you want to play the latest games then Vista is your only option. If you're not bothered about games then go for ubuntu.
[07:12] <PwcrLinux> ah
[07:12] <P235> Not really, but I haven't updated my laptop yet
[07:12] <orionrobots> P235 - Basically don't update the kernel if you are using an Nvidia or ATI card and don't need to.
[07:12] <yeniklasor> davin , basicially copy files to local hdd :)
[07:13] <Pelo> P235,  orionrobots 's explanation is as good as it gets
[07:13] <iMilad> Hi guys, i use Amarok for playing audio files and I want to know if there is a way to make it read/write ratings to an specific tag instead of storing it in a database. Anyone?
[07:13] <P235> ah I see
[07:13] <cbrock> cd /window 6
[07:13] <PwcrLinux> P235: you need read up in the topic for paste information
[07:13] <cbrock> err
[07:13] <davin> yeniklasor: I got a auto-backup app but I cant write to NTFS and I want to make it Ext3 but not lose my files already on it
[07:13] <cbrock> sorry
[07:13] <PwcrLinux> !paste
[07:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:13] <P235> okay
[07:13] <P235> sorry for my gaff
[07:13] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: According to the message, if you are using the Ubuntu restricted-modules graphics drivers (even nvidia), you should not have a problem.  Are you saying this is not the case?
[07:13] <orionrobots> P235 - It is a normal part of IRC netiquette - don't worry.
[07:14] <ubuntu> Could soemone recommend me how would I go about parittionin my 80gig laptop drive for a new Kubuntu isntallation ?
[07:14] <graabein> quick question: how do i upgrade from breezy to dapper when i don't have ubuntu-desktop meta package
[07:14] <orionrobots> EnsignRedShirt - If you are using the restricted modules, you will have a problem.
[07:14] <orionrobots> The free drivers are okay though.
[07:14] <P235> I have trouble starting my laptop for the first time for the day though
[07:14] <Mandrill> Davin: If you find out let me know cos getting my NTFS partitions working properly is giving me a headache.
[07:14] <jrib> graabein: install ubuntu-desktop then upgrade
[07:14] <pulpficti0n> i'm trying to install ubuntu.. the installed doesn't recognizes my / partition
[07:15] <funkja> I want to have my home directory on a different partition from my installation. I know I will need to change some settings in my fstab options. But I cannot seem to figure out what they should be. Anyone here know? Or is there a better place to go ask?
[07:15] <orionrobots> EnsignRedShirt - But most installations with NVidia or ATI will be using the restricted drivers instead.
[07:15] <pulpficti0n> http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9107/screenshot1om9.png
[07:15] <pulpficti0n> http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1736/screenshot2hn0.png
[07:15] <davin> Mandrill: I can read but not write to NTFS, and I want to make it Ext3
[07:15] <pulpficti0n> anyone can help me?
[07:15] <P235> Sometimes it freezes and I have to hit alt-r,s,e,i,u,b-prt src
[07:15] <davin> Mandrill: im not trying to get NTFS write support
[07:15] <graabein> jrib, im on an old laptop, i dont want all that stuff, just a stripped install like now with xfce
[07:15] <jrib> graabein: if you have xubuntu-desktop then the upgrade should work fine
[07:15] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: I am using the restricted modules, and a new version was installed with the upgrade. (But I have not rebooted yet.)
[07:15] <P235> then I try running in recovery mode so it will run a quick fsck check
[07:15] <graabein> jrib, yeah maybe i should check out xubuntu-desktop
[07:15] <davin> Can I safely format my NTFS partition to Ext3 without losing any files?
[07:15] <graabein> thanks, ill try that first
[07:15] <orionrobots> EnsignRedShirt - when you reboot - select the *old* kernel - not the new one.
[07:16] <AMAG> pelo, buy a nicer computer. :)  My desktop boots windows xp of all things in 40 seconds, from power on to desktop.
[07:16] <jvai> ok ppl. bbac later
[07:16] <pulpficti0n> "nenhum sistema de arquivos raiz" means "no root system found" -- but i do have one partition selected to "/"
[07:16] <orionrobots> EnsignRedShirt - or alternatively edit your Xorg.conf to use the free driver..
[07:16] <davin> someone?
[07:16] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: Even if I never installed the nvidia driver "by hand", and only installed it via the Ubuntu restricted module?
[07:16] <Pelo> AMAG,  that wasn'T my point,  but my computer does boot pretty fast in ubu
[07:17] <philip> davin, when you format a drive/partition, everything is lost
[07:17] <pulpficti0n> anyone???
[07:17] <pulpficti0n> i'm trying to install ubuntu.. the installed doesn't recognizes my / partition
[07:17] <superkirbyartist> How can I access the Internet from Ubuntu server?
[07:17] <orionrobots> EnsignRedShirt - Yes. Even then. I installed mine via the restricted module too.
[07:17] <AMAG> I think you missed your own point.  More money = faster computer.
[07:17] <pulpficti0n> http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9107/screenshot1om9.png
[07:17] <pulpficti0n> http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1736/screenshot2hn0.png
[07:17] <pulpficti0n> "nenhum sistema de arquivos raiz" means "no root system found" -- but i do have one partition selected to "/"
[07:17] <orionrobots> pulpficti0n - I am looking at your screenies now.
[07:17] <P235> Does anyone know what I can do to keep my laptop from being so difficult to start?
[07:17] <pulpficti0n> thanks orion2012
[07:17] <pulpficti0n> i mean orionrobots
[07:17] <davin> phillip: Well I know that but I remember that you can actually change the FS without formatting
[07:17] <orionrobots> P236 - How is it difficult to start?
[07:17] <gkm> selam
[07:17] <ubuntu> Could soemone recommend me how would I go about parittionin my 80gig laptop drive for a new Kubuntu isntallation ?
[07:18] <Mandrill> davin: same here I can rerad but not write, and all the available options (fuse, ntfs-3g) for getting ntfs writable aren't working. If I could convert it without losing any data and still have it readbale by windows (over a network) that'd make my day.
[07:18] <Pelo> too late pulpficti0n , he won'T help you now you've insulted him
[07:18] <gkm> trk varm varsa biey sorcam
[07:18] <pulpficti0n> heh
[07:18] <P235> The first boot of the day is usually the hardest because it typically freezes after the the splashscreen
[07:18] <davin> Mandrill: heck im gonna format it hold on
[07:18] <graabein> jrib, installing xubuntu-desktop now... but will it be complete when security repos are down???
[07:18] <orionrobots> Pelo: Dont worry I am not quite so sensitive.. Stiff upper lip and all that..
[07:18] <Mandrill> davin: don't!!!
[07:18] <jrib> graabein: probably best to wait, but it might work
[07:18] <philip> davin, well you can resize your partitions without issues
[07:18] <Mandrill> have you tried partition magic?
[07:18] <davin> Mandrill: nah ive transfered to my PC
[07:18] <philip> davin, but you cannot just change partition types
[07:19] <P235> ctrl alt backspace and ctrl alt fx don't work so I can only alt-r,s,e,i,u,b-prt scr
[07:19] <graabein> jrib, ooops already started. hope i can complete it later. hopefully it wont break my system
[07:19] <anton> Ive got a noob question: how can I see my (windows) network from Xubuntu?
[07:19] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: Well, I going to reboot and see what happens.  I'll be back.
[07:19] <jrib> graabein: no, it won't
[07:19] <Pelo> orionrobots, with an attitude like that you might give linux-1337 helpers a good reputation, watch it
[07:19] <EnsignRedshirt> ...maybe
[07:19] <davin> Mandrill: its busy now
[07:19] <philip> anton, look up SAMBA
[07:19] <ody42> woohooo just install feisty
[07:19] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, see?
[07:19] <philip> !samba anton
[07:20] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[07:20] <P235> I run fsck, but nothing is wrong with the file system
[07:20] <PwcrLinux> jrib: S-Fault
[07:20] <Grum> would anyone be able to help me find the edgy perl-source package ? :)
[07:20] <orionrobots> Pelo: Not a leet myself.. Just a dude trying to help out - as I want to be helped myself sometimes. Pulp- hold on - looking.
[07:20] <pulpficti0n> ok
[07:20] <pulpficti0n> just for the record, i usually install ubuntu with no problems
[07:20] <PwcrLinux> jrib: Should I reinstall the FF?
[07:21] <orionrobots> I see it pulp - hdb7 - logical ext3..
[07:21] <pulpficti0n> just this time i partitioned everything myself instead of the auto partition and it's giving me that
[07:21] <jrib> PwcrLinux: probably won't matter
[07:21] <ubuntu_> Could soemone recommend me how would I go about parittionin my 80gig laptop drive for a new Kubuntu isntallation ?
[07:21] <Pelo> P235,  when you say first boot of the day, do you mean your computer was turned off at night ? and if so ,  did you "Exit" the OS porperly or did you just turn off the comp ?
[07:21] <PwcrLinux> jrib: Segmentation fault
[07:21] <ubuntu_> how much for / and how much for home ?
[07:21] <davin> Mandrill: done lets see
[07:21] <Grum> ubuntu_: why not have ubuntu pick the default settings?
[07:21] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, what? it must be primary?
[07:21] <Pelo> ubuntu_, why not let the installation do it ?
[07:21] <jrib> PwcrLinux: did it play *any* flash this time?
[07:22] <orionrobots> Pulp - Dunno just looking.
[07:22] <pulpficti0n> ok :)
[07:22] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:22] <ubuntu_> Grum: Pelo:  isn't it better to have a separate /home parittion ?
[07:22] <davin> Mandrill: everything gone, not a problem for me, but formatting it does lose all files
[07:22] <PwcrLinux> jrib: I went to Yahoo webmail, then poofed
[07:22] <Grum> ubuntu_: why would it be?
[07:22] <orionrobots> Grub -you probably want to do sudo apt-get source -b perl.
[07:22] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  if you plan to resinatll a lot it might be helpfull but it isn'T mandatory
[07:22] <jrib> PwcrLinux: how about badgerbadgerbadger.com  (make sure you use the command from before after closing all firefox again)
[07:22] <davin> btw whats the purpose of the lost+found folder on a freshly formatted Ext3 partition?
[07:22] <ubuntu_> Grum: I am not sure I am a noob
[07:22] <Grum> orionrobots: thanks
[07:23] <orionrobots> You also will need build deps for it.
[07:23] <orionrobots> sudo apt-get build-dep perl
[07:23] <Grum> orionrobots: hmm i just want to have the source
[07:23] <Hoosteen> ok peeps..i need to install java but the file is in bin format..how do i install that?
[07:23] <Grum> i dont want to install it
[07:23] <orionrobots> Ok
[07:23] <Hoosteen> i'm so new...lol...
[07:23] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: I'm back, and I had no problems.
[07:23] <Grum> i need to check something, i think ubuntu made change to Data::Dumper which introduces segfaults on 64bit boxes
[07:23] <orionrobots> EnsignRedShirt - what card do you have there?
[07:23] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  you could make a 20 gig part for install and a 60 gig part where you will put your /home/ folder, and let ubu pick the settings on the 20 gig one
[07:23] <davin> Hoosteen: first make it executable with 'sudo chmod +x /path/to/the/java.bin'
[07:23] <PwcrLinux> jrib: I am on breezy ubuntu
[07:23] <orionrobots> Pulp - I am still not sure what is wrong with it.
[07:23] <davin> Hoosteen: then run it by 'sudo ./java.bin'
[07:23] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: Nvidia 5600 something-or-other
[07:24] <Hoosteen> davin: ahhh...ok...this is all foreign to me...lol
[07:24] <davin> Hoosteen: or 'sh java.bin;'
[07:24] <Pelo> Hoosteen, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[07:24] <P235> my laptop froze, sorry
[07:24] <Grum> orionrobots: so, how can i get my hands on the source package :D
[07:24] <davin> Hoosteen hehe no problem
[07:24] <Mandrill> Davin: I thought it might.
[07:24] <ubuntu_> Pelo: I am a noob so I am not sure whic is better a separate /home pariton or not ?
[07:24] <orionrobots> Grum - the "apt-get source" should get it..
[07:24] <davin> Mandrill well I did it once but forgot how lol
[07:24] <anton> what is the 'KILL' command in Xubuntu?
[07:24] <Grum> what does -b ?
[07:24] <Grum> build it ?:)
[07:24] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, yeah, that's what i figured.. it should work ok, i did what it's saying to me
[07:25] <orionrobots> Oh - yeah. Take out the -b.
[07:25] <Grum> ah k :)
[07:25] <Grum> thanks
[07:25] <Pelo> ubuntu_, if you are a true noob, you will let the installation prog take care of it
[07:25] <orionrobots> Pelo - good call there.
[07:25] <Hoosteen> davin: most excellent...thanks again!
[07:25] <P235> Any suggestions as to how to deal with my first boot of the day problem?
[07:25] <orionrobots> Pelo - My way is to use LVM, and sort it out later if I need more..
[07:25] <yeniklasor> oh When you say my laptop froze I remember 1 thing, How can I kill a program without crtl+alt+backspace, Is there anyway to Windows' task manager
[07:25] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: More precisely: nVidia GeForce FX 5600
[07:25] <gumpish> blarg... anyone here have a link to instructions on building and installing the xf86-video-intel driver?
[07:25] <vox754> Whenever I type "find /boot/grub/stage1" on the grub prompt I get "Error 15: file not found". However, I CAN BOOT, I have no problems. It's just that if I reinstall XP again, I think I may not be able to reinstall GRUB. Any opinions?.
[07:26] <PwcrLinux> jrib: I found the about:config string looks like whacked up in network.IDN.blacklist_chars
[07:26] <davin> Hoosteen: youre welcome friend, a .bin is a script file, though most software doesnt come in those formats
[07:26] <orionrobots> Interesting - with the new kernel and a reboot you had no issues?
[07:26] <Sanne> hi
[07:26] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: Correct.
[07:26] <orionrobots> I ended up with X failing to start and had to edit in NV.
[07:26] <HP_Vue> What other desktop managers besides gnome and KDE?
[07:26] <Hoosteen> davin: ok..so yeah..that's why i'm having problems then...lol...i'm learning slowly...hehe
[07:26] <pirate-king> how do you delete a the latest kernel
[07:26] <ubuntu_> Pelo: I wouldn' say that I am a true noob :-) How about creating just a / with home folder in it and maybe creating a separate partition for docuemnts and downlaods?
[07:26] <davin> Hoosteen: Everyone started somewhere, dont worry about it ;-)
[07:26] <Hoosteen> davin: hehe..true!
[07:27] <Pelo> HP_Vue,  search for kde on wikipedia and you should have a list of comparison of desktop managers in a link on that page
[07:27] <orionrobots> HP_Vue - look up XUbuntu for a lighter one.
[07:27] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  you could make a 20 gig part for install and a 60 gig part where you will put your /home/ folder, and let ubu pick the settings on the 20 gig one
[07:27] <EnsignRedshirt> orionrobots: I am running dapper, if that matters.
[07:27] <orionrobots> EnsignRedShirt - Not sure about that.
[07:27] <adrian_> anybady works beryl on Radeon x550 ??
[07:27] <ubuntu_> Pelo: what do you choose for yoru isntallation ?
[07:28] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, so... should i just give up?
[07:28] <chris^> Hi
[07:28] <orionrobots> Does anyone else have any ideas about PulpFicti0ns prob - I cant see anything immediate yet..
[07:28] <MrMaDSeN> hey.. i need serious help!
[07:28] <orionrobots> Hmmm..
[07:28] <yeniklasor>  How can I kill a program without losing. When my computer froze I use crtl+alt+backspace, Is there any comment-program to like Windows' task manager
[07:28] <MrMaDSeN> anyone interested?
[07:28] <soundray> yeniklasor: use the Force Quit panel applet
[07:28] <chris^> when will there be released a fix for the fucking 2.6.17-11 Update? It fucked up my wlan...
[07:28] <adrian_> ctrl+alt+F2
[07:28] <orionrobots> MrMaDSeN - please explain your prob first then. Dont ask to ask - just ask.
[07:28] <Pelo> ubuntu_, I let the install do the job
[07:28] <adrian_> killall
[07:28] <ubuntu_> yeniklasor: sudi kill pid              where pid is the proccess id, look in your system manager for running proccesses
[07:28] <quaal> has anyone successfully mounted an existing raid-0 partition in ubuntu ?
[07:29] <yeniklasor> ok thanks
[07:29] <soundray> chris^: that kind of language gets you kicked here.
[07:29] <LjL> !language | chris^
[07:29] <ubotu> chris^: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:29] <orionrobots> yeniklasor :or you can use pkill with a process name.
[07:29] <MrMaDSeN> I have problems with xterm to show certain letters (danish charset)
[07:29] <ubuntu_> Pelo: One thing I do not liek is that default install makes a 3 gig swap parititon for my 2 gigs of ram which is way too much. Can I maybe do the automatic isntall but first create a separate swap parition at the end of the hard drive with say 1 gig of space ?
[07:29] <adrian_> anybady works beryl on Radeon x550 ??
[07:30] <Luke> when I run aptitude (or any ncurses program) in my framebuffer, the special characters (which are used to creatve the boxes) show up as screwed up 'a's. anyone know how to fix this?
[07:30] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  you seem to know what you want to do so use, so do it
[07:30] <orionrobots> PulpFiction - is it moaning because you didnt tick the reformat box?
[07:30] <Hoosteen> davin: yay! it worked...haha
[07:31] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, it automatically ticks the swap partition.. didn't work
[07:31] <ubuntu_> Pelo: should swap be a primary or an extanded ?
[07:31] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, i also tried with all ext/swap checked and unchecked.. didn't work
[07:31] <jrib> PwcrLinux: like what?
[07:31] <soundray> ubuntu_: primary or logical, doesn't matter
[07:31] <pulpficti0n> ubuntu_, swap should be swap
[07:31] <jnex26> good evening
[07:31] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  let me check mine
[07:32] <jief-> hello. I'm trying to get dhclient to update my hostname on a Windows 2003 DNS server. But it doesnt work. Anyone managed to do this?
[07:32] <orionrobots> pulpficti0n - I don't read spanish(is it?) but I can see the "/" selected..
[07:32] <DigitalNinja> Do I need to do a reboot if I do an update and get "linux-server"? I'm running an Ubuntu Dapper server.
[07:32] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  the linux-swap partition is contained within and extended partition
[07:32] <PwcrLinux> jrib: I tested on badgerbadgerbadger site, the CPU spikes at 100 and very slow animations, xchat slow and many other slow
[07:32] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, portuguese.. yeah, it's moaning saying i don't have a "/" selected, but i surely do
[07:32] <Luke> when I run aptitude (or any ncurses program) in my framebuffer, the special characters (which are used to creatve the boxes) show up as screwed up 'a's. anyone know how to fix this?
[07:32] <jrib> PwcrLinux: but does the flash play without your browser crashing?
[07:32] <vox754> ubuntu_: it doesn't matter. It needs to be a partition (primary or logical inside an extended) or it can also be file
[07:32] <jnex26> i have a problem can anyone help me, my network speed is about a 1/3 of normal in the system monitor my connection is full of peaks and troughs can anyone help
[07:33] <Hoosteen> davin: ok question..now...how do i get firefox to realize the plugin is there...lol
[07:33] <PwcrLinux> jrib: none,  just very high CPU spikes
[07:33] <orionrobots> What does "Frente" translate as - Finish/Next?
[07:33] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, next
[07:33] <jrib> PwcrLinux: what kind of specs are on the box?
[07:34] <PwcrLinux> jrib: also I found the about:config string looks like whacked up in network.IDN.blacklist_chars
[07:34] <orionrobots> pulpficti0n - Maybe it has not updated the alerts from entering the page.
[07:34] <orionrobots> What do you get if you click next anyway?
[07:34] <jnex26> can anyone help ?
[07:34] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, nope.. that alert appeared after i clicked next
[07:34] <orionrobots> jnex26 - Is this after the new update - or some other event?
[07:35] <EnsignRedshirt> PwcrLinux: Oh gee, thanks.  You mentiond badgerbadgerbadger, and I I'll have that stupid "song" in my head for days.
[07:35] <GForXe> uit
[07:35] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, it wasn't there when i was editing the entries, it appeared after i clicked next
[07:35] <EnsignRedshirt> s/and/and now/
[07:35] <orionrobots> Okay - was worth a shoy..
[07:35] <tobias_> Hello Ubuntu users, after updating my system the X server fails to load the nVidia module and quits with "no screens found". What should I do?
[07:35] <orionrobots> s/shoy/shot/
[07:35] <orionrobots> tobias_ - that will be the new kernel.
[07:35] <soundray> jnex26: what makes you think the problem is on your side?
[07:35] <PwcrLinux> Jrib: Sony Vaio lappy 2 Ghz 768 MB ram, 32 MB Vram ATI Mobility Radon
[07:35] <orionrobots> Either select the old one when you reboot, or edit the Xorg.conf to use the free driver.
[07:35] <tobias_> orionrobots, all very well but what can I do about it
[07:35] <Hoosteen> ok..anybody?
[07:36] <pulpficti0n> orionrobots, it could be a bug, but i doubt it.. i mean, how long this 6.1 have been out?
[07:36] <jnex26> well I only install ubuntu a week or so ago and it's never been very fast
[07:36] <orionrobots> tobias_ Either select the old one when you reboot, or edit the Xorg.conf to use the free driver.
[07:36] <vox754> tobias_: the kernel updates are messing nVidia and ATI, don't update, and tell your friends.
[07:36] <tobias_> vox754, evil has has happened already, how do I fix it?
[07:36] <jrib> PwcrLinux: did you setup the drivers for your video card?
[07:36] <tobias_> orionrobots, how can I select an old kernel when booting?
[07:36] <r_rehashed> what's the difference between gcjwebplugin and gcjwebplugin-4.1?
[07:36] <orionrobots> tobias_ Do you not get a breif boot menu?
[07:37] <PwcrLinux> Jrib: already installed in the first installation of linux.. it's work just fine..
[07:37] <tobias_> orionrobots, not at all just the spash window of starting up
[07:37] <redeeman> Pelo: ahh thanks
[07:37] <orionrobots> tobias_ There is an alternative - are you using any 3D stuff?
[07:37] <coshx> tobias_: you have about 3 seconds to press esc when booting to see the grub menu.
[07:37] <tobias_> orionrobots, as in xgl/compiz?
[07:37] <warkruid> quick question: What was the name of the new graphical package manager under Ubuntu? I seem to have lost it from my applications menu and I _really_ would like it back
[07:37] <soundray> vox754: do you know if this kernel/binary drivers problem has been reported?
[07:37] <jrib> warkruid: synaptic
[07:37] <jnex26> brb going to old kernal see what difference that makes
[07:37] <orionrobots> tobias_ Go with coshx - that is a better one to use for now..
[07:37] <warkruid> tnx
[07:37] <tobias_> coshx, I cant recall I have got grub but I'll see
[07:38] <tobias_> ok I will try thank you
[07:38] <EnsignRedshirt> warkruid: Do you mean Update Manager?   Synaptic isn't really "new".
[07:38] <tobias_> be right back
[07:38] <jrib> PwcrLinux: I don't know why it's slow then
[07:38] <vox754> tobias_: some people say the problem is already fixed, but I say not. They say it is NOT the kernel's problem but the "unofficial modules" which need also to be updated. I can't tell you specifics since I don't own ATI or nVidia.
[07:38] <warkruid> EnsignRedshirt: Synaptic was what i was looking for.
[07:38] <PwcrLinux> Jrib: prolly kernel upgraded could be culpirt
[07:38] <orionrobots> coshx - Hmm it must be because i use alternative that I always see the gruib menu for 5 seconds.
[07:39] <EnsignRedshirt> warkruid: OK (that's what I usually use)
[07:39] <cables> orionrobots, you want to disable the Grub menu delay?
[07:39] <vox754> soundray: visit the forums for more info. Yes, the problem started February 6.
[07:39] <orionrobots> Vox754 - I agree it is not fixed.
[07:39] <orionrobots> Cables - no. Not today anyway ;)
[07:39] <coshx> vox754: is this the issue with the recent update breaking the nvidia module? (also broke my wireless module)
[07:39] <PwcrLinux> this is last updated
[07:39] <cables> orionrobots, you've updated menu.lst? If you have, I'll leave you alone. :)
[07:39] <warkruid> EnsignRedshirt: Messed up my menu's, :-( so I "lost" it
[07:39] <orionrobots> Cables - If it really bugged me - I would have disabled it by now..
[07:39] <Hoosteen> can anybody help me?
[07:40] <justin420> no
[07:40] <cables> orionrobots, ok... I'll just give you a hint for when it starts bugging you: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:40] <orionrobots> Cool - thanks.
[07:40] <cables> Hoosteen, what's the problem?
[07:40] <Hoosteen> i just installed the java runtime library but firefox doesn't notice it's there.....
[07:40] <orionrobots> At least grub is friendlier than lilo was.
[07:40] <vitalstatistix> anyone here with a sony vaio laptop?
[07:40] <vox754> coshx: yes, you bet. Too bad. I visit the forums before clicking on updates. Tell your friends.
[07:40] <PwcrLinux> I am
[07:40] <quaal> what program in ubuntu will run aim, yahoo, msn, trillian accounts?
[07:40] <Hoosteen> quaal: gaim
[07:40] <tristanmike> quaal: gaim
[07:40] <clearzen> How can you convert  bin/cue files into .iso or .avi?
[07:40] <orionrobots> Anyone know anything about firefox being annoyingly slow - recently it has been behaving badly.
[07:40] <cables> quaal, Gaim... but what's a Trillian account?
[07:41] <cables> orionrobots, any new extensions?
[07:41] <coshx> vox754: well, i just tried installing linux-generic -- i wonder why the updater didn't do that? hopefully this'll fix it.
[07:41] <quaal> oh cool.. thought it was just a im
[07:41] <EnsignRedshirt> vox754: I just want to point out that, for some people, anyway, the updates of linux-restricted-modules worked with no problems.
[07:41] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: yep, I have same thing..
[07:41] <GMWeezel> My computer is only able to play one sound application at a time.
[07:41] <vox754> Whenever I type "find /boot/grub/stage1" on the grub prompt I get "Error 15: file not found". However, I CAN BOOT, I have no problems. It's just that if I reinstall XP again, I think I may not be able to reinstall GRUB. Any opinions?
[07:41] <quaal> cables, i totally meant to say icq
[07:41] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: does your system spikes CPU at 100?
[07:41] <quaal> cables, was just thinking about trillian
[07:41] <GMWeezel> The sound card is ALC861 HD from Realtek
[07:41] <cables> quaal, Gaim will work
[07:41] <orionrobots> pwrclinux yes
[07:41] <vox754> coshx: if it works, let people know
[07:41] <coshx> will do.
[07:41] <orionrobots> cables - firebug, noscript, adblock, streetmap, GTDGmail (this happens when not on gmail) and Flashgot.
[07:41] <gkm_> #suse.tr
[07:42] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: I do same thing as yours
[07:42] <cables> Hoosteen, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:42] <orionrobots> Hmm - I wander if it is flash?
[07:42] <cables> Hoosteen, then select the runtime you installed
[07:42] <PwcrLinux> Video choppy
[07:42] <PwcrLinux> and slow and etc
[07:42] <vox754> EnsignRedshirt: good luck. Keep reading to see if you have some solution people need.
[07:42] <Data_> hi, does anybody knows ngrab under linux?
[07:42] <clearzen> What can I use to convert .bin .cue files?
[07:42] <soundray> vox754: try the find without the leading slash
[07:42] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: yep, FF quits unexpectably
[07:42] <tobias_> orionrobots, I am back and up with my lovely graphical enviroment. How can I make it so that I do not have to spam ESC when booting, and how do I prevent such problems in the future?
[07:42] <orionrobots> cables, pwcrlinux - Could it be flash 9 doing it - even on non flashed sites?
[07:43] <cables> orionrobots, try running "firefox -safe-mode" and seeing if it runs any faster
[07:43] <orionrobots> Cables - thanks..
[07:43] <Hoosteen> cables: hmm..that didn't work says there is nothing to configure
[07:43] <soundray> vox754: thanks, I found the forums post, but it seems that, strangely, I am not affected
[07:43] <cables> Hoosteen, how did you install the runtime?
[07:43] <orionrobots> tobias_ Cables mentioned just now about editing the grub menu..
[07:43] <Hoosteen> cables: i took the bin and chmod it and then ran sudo ./java.bin
[07:43] <orionrobots> Cables - it was /boot/grub/menu.lst was it not - and I suspect you can set the default booting kernel there?
[07:44] <cables> tobias_, you want to have the grub menu show up every time you boot up?
[07:44] <cables> orionrobots, yep
[07:44] <amonbish> Hi
[07:44] <Pntkl> sup
[07:44] <orionrobots> Pwcrlinux - I do not have it quit - just the 100% lockup.
[07:44] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: go open FF and type about:config  and look for "network.IDN.blacklist_chars" if you see the string garbled on it?
[07:44] <EnsignRedshirt>  vox754: I doubt I could contribute to a solution; this morning's upgrade "just worked" for me.
[07:44] <cables> orionrobots, just back it up first...
[07:44] <tobias_> cables, no not really, I want it to select my old kernel everytime because my new one messes nVidia up
[07:44] <orionrobots> Cables - good plan.
[07:44] <tobias_> cables, but if not possible, showing would be a good temporary solution
[07:44] <cables> tobias_, have you installed the "linux-restricted-modules" package for your new kernel?
[07:44] <DigitalNinja> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu server updates the kernel? I've seen linux-server in the updates but I'm still on the same kernel (I think)
[07:44] <tobias_> cables, I think so let me check
[07:45] <cables> tobias_, better to fix the real problem than work around it
[07:45] <tobias_> cables, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[07:45] <orionrobots> PwcrLinux - yes I have garbled characters there alright.
[07:45] <cables> Hoosteen, why didn't you install with APT?
[07:45] <vox754> soundray: no good with "find". It is really a strange problem; I'm holding my XP reinstallation because of it.
[07:45] <cables> tobias_, what kernel do you have installed?
[07:45] <amonbish> tell me
[07:46] <Hoosteen> cables: erm..i dunno..i tried to go to a webpage that needed java, it pointed me to the bin file...so i did it that way :)
[07:46] <cables> Hoosteen, bad idea...
[07:46] <tobias_> cables, "uname -r" results in "2.6.17-10-386" but I think I have got a newer one under my grub
[07:46] <jnex26> hi again, I have loaded into the previous kernal and the problem still exist
[07:46] <orionrobots> Hoosteen - fire up synaptic, look for java..
[07:46] <vox754> EnsignRedshirt: still you could mention which drivers, modules you have, how did you installed them, compile them. Every bit of info is useful.
[07:46] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: okay, after installed the player.. they've might have incorrectly written a codes by adobe creators..
[07:46] <Hoosteen> cables: uh oh..well..gotta learn sometime...lol
[07:46] <fluffybacon> anyone know what might be causing "kernel panic In interrupt handler -  not syncing"?
[07:46] <abhinay> help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357877 ?
[07:46] <cables> Hoosteen, Hoosteen, hold on a second
[07:46] <chris^> anyone have a solution for this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358004 <<--?? Broken Wifi after 2.6.17-11 (prism2)?
[07:46] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:46] <orionrobots> PwcrLinux - I wander if we can blitz that "blacklist" then..
[07:47] <Hoosteen> cables waiting for ur magic advice! :)
[07:47] <orionrobots> I presume those are all unicode characters.
[07:47] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: yes some of root squares
[07:47] <cables> Hoosteen, you really shouldn't install from installers. Better to check if it's in the repositories first.
[07:47] <soundray> vox754: clearly, if you can boot, it finds the stage1 when it matters. If you can see /boot/grub/stage1 and friends after booting, you will be okay. Reinstall grub after XP follwing the wiki.
[07:47] <cables> Hoosteen, hold on a minute
[07:47] <orionrobots> PwcrLinux - So what would be the danger in killing those network.IDN keys?
[07:47] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:47] <Hoosteen> cables: ok..will do..and will remember that advice!
[07:47] <orionrobots> Do you know what they belong to?
[07:48] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: not worry about, because the FF can cause crashes or quits unexpectly
[07:48] <moreo1> how can i set up a static ip?
[07:48] <coshx> vox754: aptitude install linux-generic did the trick for me. Now everything's back up. Seems like an update bug that it would update the kernel without updating linux-generic?
[07:48] <DCCExpoliiter> Oh btw you guys have a nice day...
[07:48] <soundray> moreo1: are you  on gnome?
[07:48] <Luke> when I run aptitude (or any ncurses program) in my framebuffer, the special characters (which are used to creatve the boxes) show up as screwed up 'a's. anyone know how to fix this?
[07:48] <moreo1> yes
[07:48] <orionrobots> Hmm - big network split?
[07:49] <EnsignRedshirt> vox754: I am just using linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-686.  I didn't compile anything--this is the Ubuntu package.
[07:49] <PwcrLinux> oh boy DCC hacker
[07:49] <eternal_p> good afternoon all...I am wondering with my laptop, is there a command that I can use to identify the model of my LCD screen... I know in windows you can use powerstripe, but what can I use for linux?  thanks!
[07:49] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:49] <vox754> soundray: yeah. It is strange. My XP is kind of broken, but I'm doing it pretty good right now with Ubuntu. So it would be a shame not to boot Linux.
[07:49] <chris^> anyone have a solution for this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358004 <<--?? Broken Wifi after 2.6.17-11 (prism2)?
[07:49] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:49] <cables> wtf was that?
[07:49] <PwcrLinux> Cable: DCC hacker tried to exploiting on linux
[07:50] <orionrobots> !support
[07:50] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc
[07:50] <vox754> coshx: tell LjL and others...
[07:50] <orionrobots> Cypherdelic - if noone here knows - try support options.
[07:50] <orionrobots> cables kicked - wtf?
[07:50] <jnex26>  any help with this please http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357940
[07:51] <Hoosteen> yeah..what's up with that
[07:51] <coshx> vox754: okay :)
[07:51] <eternal_p> is there a file I can cat or something?
[07:51] <kraut> what's going on?
[07:51] <chris^> anyone have a solution for this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358004 <<--?? Broken Wifi after 2.6.17-11 (prism2)?
[07:51] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:51] <coshx> chris^: how did you update the kernel?
[07:51] <vox754> EnsignRedshirt: well, good for you. Stay around and tell people if they ask.
[07:51] <coshx> chris^: try booting into the old kernel (esc while grub is loading and select the old one) and run "sudo aptitude install linux-generic" and see if that fixes it.
[07:51] <PwcrLinux> aha, thanks for the topic changes :)
[07:52] <soundray> chris^: that's better :)  What happens when you boot 2.6.17-10 as suggested int the forums?
[07:52] <chris^> coshx: apt-get dist-upgrade, like everytime... the new kernel works great, only wifi is broken (prism2)
[07:52] <kraut> LjL: what's going on?
[07:52] <chris^> i removed 2.6.17-10 after installing the new one.. just reinstalled it.. but if I boot into it, also no eth1 (wifi) - eth0 is ok (cable)
[07:52] <cypherdelic_> Cant detect printer on usb: brother mfc210c printconf-bash: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5099/
[07:53] <LjL> !exploit | kraut
[07:53] <ubotu> kraut: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[07:53] <Hoosteen> yeap..i got booted yesterday for that...sucks big time
[07:53] <orionrobots> !support | cypherdelic_
[07:53] <ubotu> cypherdelic_: For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc
[07:54] <chris^> coshx: linux-generic is installed - that isn't the problem...
[07:54] <coshx> chris^: no, it doesn't sound like that's the problem.
[07:54] <cypherdelic_> orionrobots, i am IN #ubuntu
[07:54] <soundray> chris^: how is your wifi card connected?
[07:54] <coshx> chris^: what shows up in your kernel log when you try to modprobe the module?
[07:54] <kraut> LjL: ah, thanks. are there issues with iptables, too?
[07:54] <chris^> soundray: minipci in my laptop (ibm t23) and works fine for over one year until today :x
[07:54] <LjL> kraut: uh? what would iptables have to do with this?
[07:55] <orionrobots> cypherdelic_ I realise this. There are other support options if no one here knows. Simply repeating will probably not help you.
[07:55] <gbjk> I can't get ubuntu to run in anything other than 640x480. Xorg.log gives some clues, but I'm unclear on which to follow.
[07:55] <soundray> coshx: have you tried coshx
[07:55] <soundray> sorry
[07:55] <kraut> LjL: you mean routers were effected, my router is a linux box ;)
[07:55] <gbjk> Voodoo 3, P3 500mhz, 128mb ram.
[07:55] <chris^> coshx: the modul is already loaded
[07:55] <LjL> kraut, *some* routers that are stupid enough to mistake one thing for another are affected. your linux box is fine.
[07:55] <gbjk> Xorg.conf hacked to remove frivilous stuff.
[07:55] <coshx> soundray: sorry, i don't get it.
[07:55] <gbjk> Modeline entered for 1024x768
[07:56] <LjL> kraut: that's talking about home routers with proprietary, and buggy, firmware
[07:56] <gbjk> Can anyone suggest where I should look next
[07:56] <gbjk> ?
[07:56] <cables> Hoosteen, you still there? I was hit by the DCC attack, I'll be back in a few minutes.
[07:56] <vox754> LjL: I just want to say that it looks cool when ChanServ gives you the op, then you do stuff, and the you give it away. I know it is some sort of script, but still, it looks very neat.
[07:56] <coshx> chris^: does iwconfig show you anything useful?
[07:56] <PwcrLinux> Dlink doesn't effects..
[07:56] <kraut> LjL: ah, ok. first time i hear about this exploit.
[07:56] <EnsignRedshirt> vox754: Sorry, I didn't mean to gloat :)  But I wonder, if for some people the upgrade works fine, would it be a bad idea to suggest trying the updated kernel, before suggesting using the old kernel?  If the new one doesn't work, can someone just reboot and select the old kernel?
[07:56] <sYnie> hey there
[07:56] <soundray> coshx: I hit enter at the wrong moment, and the issue has since been cleared up. Sorry about the confusion ;)
[07:56] <tobias_> cables, you asked me what kernel I had, I gave you an answer and I do not want to be rude but if you cant help me further please say so
[07:57] <orionrobots> PwcrLinux - I have zeroed out that crazy key in ff config - I will let you know what happens..
[07:57] <coshx> soundray: oh, i thought it was like some new drug named after me or someting.
[07:57] <PwcrLinux> orionrobots: okay
[07:57] <cables> tobias_, I was hit by the DCC exploit and will be back in this channel in 3 minutes
[07:57] <sYnie> hello
[07:57] <superkirbyartist> Hello, how do you change hostname, please?
[07:57] <tobias_> cables, oki
[07:57] <PwcrLinux> 113 no where it's better
[07:58] <EnsignRedshirt> superkirbyartist: System -> Admin -> Networking, go to the General tab.
[07:58] <vox754> EnsignRedshirt: using the old kernel seems reasonable; but apparently some people remove it after the update, and then they are stuck.
[07:58] <Mandrill> is there a reference fo command line commands?
[07:58] <rcmiv> what would be my best bet on a wireless card for my toshiba tecra 8100?
[07:58] <superkirbyartist> Thanks a lot, ensignredshirt.
[07:58] <myeatman> Mandrill: try man
[07:58] <orionrobots> Ah - vox754 - I keep 2/3 kernels back around normally. But then I have a lot of free diskspace.
[07:58] <soundray> coshx: not a bad idea. What would it be, though? Painkiller?
[07:59] <EnsignRedshirt> vox754: I see. That's a problem :)
[07:59] <orionrobots> Mandrill - apropos is also handy
[07:59] <sYnie> I am on it to find a good name for a kind of a job community. but im from germany, so i got a question. does "get jobbed" mean something like "get screwed"?
[07:59] <soundray> sYnie: bad place to ask
[08:00] <Sanne> I'm about to buy a DVD burner for the first itme. I researched but could not find any issues I should be aware of regarding Linux. Is it safe to say those devices pretty much work?
[08:00] <sYnie> i don't know where to ask instead, sorry
[08:00] <cables> tobias_, Hoosteen, I'm back... you still here?
[08:00] <soundray> Sanne: yes. Be conservative and avoid SATA drives.
[08:00] <tobias_> cables, I am
[08:00] <coshx> Sanne: if you're using the 2.6 kernel you shouldn't have a problem
[08:00] <vox754> orionrobots: You see, at first I had a 16 MB /boot partition just enough for the kernel. Then after an update, I hadn't room for a new one. I ended up reintalling my system with a 64 MB /boot partition, how's that?
[08:00] <vitalstatistix> anyone here familiar with vbetool errors
[08:00] <cables> tobias_, what did you need?
[08:01] <coshx> Sanne: some newegg reviews even say if it'll work under linux (at least when I write reviews i add that as a plus)
[08:01] <Hoosteen> cables: roger..i'm here
[08:01] <tobias_> cables, I was the one with the kernel problem (grub, remember?)
[08:01] <orionrobots> vox754 - I see. How annoying.
[08:01] <orionrobots> tobias_ I also remember.
[08:01] <ctothej> how can I see a log of what happens when the computer shuts down?
[08:01] <mikey5555> Hello all...  New to UBUNTU 6.06LTS.  Installed on SUN Sparc server.  Is there GUI support (ie... Xwindows, etc..)?  If so, how do I implement it. Cannot find any info in online documentation; have not found any Xwindows stuff on system after installing UBUNTU.
[08:02] <Sanne> soundray, coshx: the one I'm thinking of buying is E-IDE/ATAPI, so I guess I'm set. Thanks you both. And I'm on Dapper, so the kernel should be fine :)
[08:02] <tha_toadman> i'm trying to run ubuntu on a sata but the drive isn't detected...should i be safe and use an IDE drive??
[08:02] <cables> tobias_, ok... do "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and edit the options for whether the menu should show or not. If you want to re-order your kernels, you can copy/paste them around in the menu list somewhere closer to the bottom of the file. Make sure to back up the file first though.
[08:02] <Pelo> tha_toadman,  check the bios I would think
[08:03] <soundray> tha_toadman: if you have a choice, yes
[08:03] <cables> Hoosteen, did you do "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin"?
[08:03] <Hoosteen> cables: no..i wasn't sure if i needed to remove what i did or not..or how i would even do it
[08:03] <tha_toadman> pelo: i have the bios in 'compatiblity mode' on and it proceeds in the install but when it gets to the drive, nothing works...
[08:03] <kitche> mikey5555: did you install it as a server?
[08:04] <yeniklasor> hi
[08:04] <cables> Hoosteen, that should just overwrite it. Try that, and if that doesn't work, do "sudo aptitude remove sun-java6-plugin" and "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin" to try version 5.
[08:04] <mikey5555> kitche: yes, it installed as server.
[08:04] <tobias_> cables, I changed the default number to a number referring to the previous kernel
[08:04] <kitche> mikey5555: you have to install X then if you installed it as a server
[08:04] <tha_toadman> i've even used 'achi' and 'ata_piix' modes...which sata drives are suppose to work with but it still dies on the install at that point
[08:04] <tobias_> trying it now
[08:04] <Pelo> tha_toadman,  try this,  open up the comp and unplug the ide drive, leaving only the sata,  see if it gets detected and you can proceed with the install
[08:04] <cables> tobias_, you should probably not do that...
[08:04] <yeniklasor> how can I write this with keyboard "~" :)
[08:05] <Hoosteen> cables: ok cool..one quick questin..what does sudo aptitude do? is it the same as sudo apt-get?
[08:05] <cables> tobias_, join #grub
[08:05] <tobias_> ok
[08:05] <tha_toadman> pelo: i have an ide dvd+r drive (pata) and a WD hard drive (sata)
[08:05] <mikey5555> kitche: is X in the installation, or must i retrieve from somewhere else?
[08:05] <orionrobots> Hmm - cables - I am taking a look at my lst file. Do I just need to move that savedefault marker or do I actually have to reorder their list appearance?
[08:05] <cables> Hoosteen, yes, but it will automatically remove unneeded dependencies when you remove stuff
[08:05] <Hoosteen> cables: ahh...kk
[08:05] <cables> orionrobots, you're trying to use a different kernel by default too?
[08:05] <tha_toadman> pelo: i need the dvd+rw drive to install linux on it
[08:06] <jimi_hendrixx> i dont finish setup
[08:06] <kitche> mikey5555: sudo apt-get install xorg the server install doesn't come with it but you can pull it from the repo not sure if there is a repo for sparc but you can try
[08:06] <Pelo> tha_toadman,  sorry from what you were saying I thouht you had two drives ? what's the ide one then ?
[08:06] <Yodude> hey i have a question about my nvidia driver
[08:06] <Yodude> i downloaded it from the website in windows
[08:06] <orionrobots> cables - Yeah I thought I might as well. I don't know what the new kernel gives me, and my old stuff worked before the update.. So why not..
[08:06] <Yodude> it is a .run file
[08:06] <jimi_hendrixx> theres error,
[08:06] <PwcrLinux> oh well cya later.. I will be back for any FF fixes or FP 9 fixes
[08:06] <cables> orionrobots, have you actually tried that kernel yet?
[08:06] <orionrobots> PwcrLinux - it was all cool so far btw.
[08:06] <orionrobots> Yes
[08:06] <jimi_hendrixx> error  gerar nwe disk label
[08:06] <tha_toadman> pelo: the ide one is my dvd+rw, the sata drive is my hard drive
[08:06] <soundray> Yodude: don't use that. Ubuntu has packages to support nvidia cards
[08:07] <soundray> !nvidia | Yodude
[08:07] <ubotu> Yodude: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:07] <Yodude> i chose to run it in the terminal but it didn't install because it said it needs root
[08:07] <orionrobots> cables - It left me with teh GDM failed.
[08:07] <cables> orionrobots, I'm not sure... try #grub
[08:07] <ikaruga> is 7 GB enough space to install ubuntu 6.10?
[08:07] <cables> ikaruga, yep
[08:07] <orionrobots> Cables - I am currently running the nv driver instead.
[08:07] <mikey5555> kitche: thanks, I'll try to find the repository.
[08:07] <Pelo> tha_toadman, so you are telling me that your hd isn'T being detected for installation ?
[08:07] <tha_toadman> pelo: i'm frustrated to the point where i think i'm going to just use an IDE hard drive instead...nothing works but i've heard that linux has bad sata suppose
[08:07] <ikaruga> cables: the installer isn't letting me do it
[08:07] <cables> orionrobots, go to #grub and they will be able to tell you how to set the default
[08:07] <Yodude> btw i also downloaded a download manager called MultiGet does anybody know it??
[08:07] <tha_toadman> *support
[08:07] <kitche> mikey5555: if you sudo apt-get install then you should be bale to install it not sure though
[08:07] <orionrobots> Ah I see..
[08:07] <Yodude> i can't seem to be able to install it
[08:08] <Sanne> Yodude: about installing software in Ubuntu, you might also read this sometime: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:08] <tha_toadman> pelo: yes - that's correct
[08:08] <cables> ikaruga, are you sure it's 7 gb? It's probably not letting you for some other reason.
[08:08] <orionrobots> I might just man grub first..
[08:08] <Pelo> tha_toadman,  I have ubuntu isnatlled on a sata drive and I have no problems
[08:08] <Yodude> evrytime it gives me an error saying something about a dependancy not satisfyable
[08:08] <mike_> i want to install messenger for ubuntu
[08:08] <soundray> tha_toadman: the support for drives is good. Support for some controllers is lagging.
[08:08] <ikaruga> cables: yup.... I'm running Dapper off the same computer... I'm trying to do a fresh install
[08:08] <kitche> Yodude: you don't have all the repos enabled probably
[08:08] <Pelo> tha_toadman,  in  the live cd goto  menu > system > admin > gparted and check if your sata drive is being recognises
[08:09] <tha_toadman> soundray: that's what i don't get - i have an ICH7 northbridge but i'm not sure about the controller
[08:09] <orionrobots> Man - I hate man pages, that refer you to info pages for more, that have only what was in the man page. How pointless was that..
[08:09] <ubuntu_> I have a major problem, and need help.
[08:09] <kitche> mike_: Ymessenger?
[08:09] <_Jaak_> lupine_85, i've tryd to update, but it doesn't find any new drivers ?
[08:09] <vox754> yeniklasor: depends on oyur keyboard layout
[08:09] <tha_toadman> pelo: i was using the alternate ISO
[08:09] <yeniklasor> Turkish Q keyboard
[08:09] <Pelo> tha_toadman,  this is over my head then
[08:09] <tha_toadman> pelo: but i do have the 6.06.1 desktop to try
[08:09] <ubuntu_> Can someone please help me?
[08:09] <tha_toadman> pelo: i might try that
[08:10] <Pelo> ubuntu_, we can't help if we don'T know the problem
[08:10] <tha_toadman> it's over mine too :-)
[08:10] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ dont ask to ask. What is the problem.
[08:10] <soundray> orionrobots: when that happens, there is usually an additional packagename-doc package that contains the extended info pages.
[08:10] <zero88> anyone know how to install the ieee8021 subsystem properly??
[08:10] <ubuntu_> The newest uptade for ubuntu-generic (last night) crashed my PC.
[08:10] <orionrobots> Soundray - hmm I will try that..
[08:10] <cables> ikaruga, I have no idea... it sounds like a bug.
[08:10] <ubuntu_> im on live CD and i need to recover ><
[08:10] <kitche> ubuntu_: what video card do you have?
[08:10] <orionrobots> Found what I was looking for - it was in man for grub-update.
[08:10] <ubuntu_> NVIDIA 5200
[08:10] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  this is a fresh install ?
[08:10] <ubuntu_> no
[08:10] <vox754> yeniklasor: you can try "gnome-character-map" and "gnome-keyboard-properties" and click layout to see the available buttons
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: you using the binary driver?
[08:11] <ubuntu_> im on lve CD
[08:11] <ubuntu_> im using the driver that came with ubuntu.
[08:11] <ubuntu_> but the new update ruined it.
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: which one nv or nvidia
[08:11] <yeniklasor> OK
[08:11] <ubuntu_> nvidia
[08:11] <Hoosteen> cables: well it's plugging away..hehe..thanks for your help and advice..from now on, i'll check the repos first
[08:11] <ubuntu_> not nv.
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: since the bianry driver for nvidia is broken
[08:11] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ You are seeing what we are all seeing. That will be the restricted drivers you have. The nvidia module is hosed with the new kernel.
[08:11] <cables> Hoosteen, you can use Synaptic to search packages.
[08:11] <kitche> ubuntu_: just edit your xorg.conf to nv for now
[08:12] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ Dont bother
[08:12] <ubuntu_> to nv?...
[08:12] <Pelo> gotta go, lager folks
[08:12] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ use the old kernel if you still have it.
[08:12] <ubuntu_> nv is not goin to fix it...
[08:12] <Hoosteen> cables: yeah..i'm just so new to this..i dunno what i'm doing really...lol....but i'm learning...
[08:12] <ubuntu_> orion... how do i use the old kernel?..
[08:12] <ubuntu_> ugh i knew i shouldn't have updated.
[08:12] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ Grub will let you select the old kernel. Press escape as you boot to get a menu.
[08:12] <ubuntu_> yeah
[08:13] <ubuntu_> and pick the 2nd generic on the menu?
[08:13] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ I am glad I only updated one sacrificial machine - that I am now going to switch back.
[08:13] <kitche> ubuntu_: also nv lets you get into X witht he new kernel you can always use the old kernel if you want direct rendering
[08:13] <orionrobots> ubuntu_ Yes.
[08:13] <vox754> ubuntu_: we've been saying this the whole day...
[08:13] <Stormx2> What do you all use for ripping CDs?
[08:13] <ubuntu_> vox..
[08:13] <orionrobots> Kitche - nv is great if you dont like direct rendering, video or 3D. I would prefer a free module that did though.
[08:13] <ubuntu_> last night i updated
[08:13] <ubuntu_> and i was tryin to fix my pc until i fell asleep.
[08:13] <Yodude> hey i don't understna dhwta they said anyway my prob is not that complicated
[08:13] <ubuntu_> is there goin to be another update?...
[08:14] <cables> Sounds like yesterday's update pretty much sucked...
[08:14] <orionrobots> kitche - hence switching to the old kernel is a much better option for now. I am not sure what the new kernel gives me yet. Only a host of probs so far.
[08:14] <kitche> orionrobots: no clue why you said video since nv works fine for video unless you mean something else
[08:14] <Yodude> when i run the driver file in the terminal it says it needs root
[08:14] <Stormx2> what happened with yesterdays update?
[08:14] <orionrobots> kitche - Tearing and choppines.
[08:14] <lupine_85> bear wirth me
[08:14] <vox754> ubuntu_: nop, don't know, keep trying... good luck... good coffee...
[08:14] <Yodude> how can i offer it root access?
[08:14] <Yodude> ( i tried running it in root terminal)
[08:14] <ubuntu_> kitche... it used to be nv but that would let X start either, so i switched it to nvidia
[08:14] <yeniklasor> And how can I use with terminal SPACE ( ) For example wine .../Program Files/MoonStar/
[08:14] <Stormx2> Yodude: sudo
[08:14] <BigMac> is there a way to have evolution may display something whenever you get a new email?
[08:14] <kitche> orionrobots: ah I don't get any of that even with nv but anyways with each kernel the driver has to be reinstalled
[08:14] <Stormx2> !sudo | Yodude
[08:14] <ubotu> Yodude: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:14] <jimi_hendrixx> alguem fala portugues aqui?
[08:15] <LjL> !pt | jimi_hendrixx
[08:15] <ubotu> jimi_hendrixx: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:15] <Yodude> you don't understand
[08:15] <orionrobots> kitche - I use the restricted modules deb, not the manual install
[08:15] <Yodude> i double-clicked the file
[08:15] <BigMac> *is there a way to have evolution mily display something whenever you get a new email?
[08:15] <orionrobots> kitche - so it actually should have been covered in the update.
[08:15] <Yodude> it gave me the option to run in terminal
[08:15] <yeniklasor> How can I use with terminal SPACE ( ) For example ".../Program Files/MoonStar/"
[08:15] <Yodude> i clicked it
[08:15] <BigMac> **is there a way to have evolution mail display something whenever you get a new email?
[08:15] <Yodude> and it said it needs root
[08:15] <Yodude> so i can't add the sudo here
[08:15] <jimi_hendrixx> LjL: the problem is nobody speak
[08:15] <ubuntu_> alright gonna try my chances with the grub selection
[08:15] <ubuntu_> brb
[08:16] <LjL> !br | jimi_hendrixx
[08:16] <ubotu> jimi_hendrixx: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:16] <kitche> orionrobots: umm the nvidia module has to be recompiled each time the kernel gets updated and they didn't make one
[08:16] <seraphim> BigMac: you could use mail-notification - that looks at your pop-boxes and displays new mails in the tray
[08:16] <LjL> jimi_hendrixx: ah sorry, well try #ubuntu-br too, not only #ubuntu-pt
[08:16] <vox754> jimi_hendrixx: that's too bad, you should talk to your friends so more people decide to talk
[08:16] <jimi_hendrixx> i try both
[08:16] <orionrobots> kitche - And that is the problem. For now - I advise skipping the update until its sorted, or switching to the old one in the grub menu.
[08:16] <jimi_hendrixx> LjL:  i try both
[08:16] <jimi_hendrixx> but nobody speak
[08:17] <jimi_hendrixx> talk
[08:17] <BigMac> seraphim: what option menu is that under?
[08:17] <soundray> Yodude: are you listening?
[08:17] <orionrobots> kitche - Since I use 3D apps (GL development and so on) nv will get me absolutely nowhere...
[08:17] <lupine_85> ok, weird
[08:17] <lupine_85> the files are up there
[08:17] <seraphim> BigMac: it's a small program, you can install it via synaptic or apt
[08:17] <BigMac> and on another note, why is the tab key so unresponsive in ubuntu, as in I have to hit it like 5 times before it actuallly tabs
[08:17] <lupine_85> but I'm not seeing the .11 update from mine /or/ security.
[08:17] <ahave> i used a sudo -s command to become root for installation of some progs, now i do not want to be root anymore. how do i remove this?
[08:18] <Yodude> soudary yes
[08:18] <vox754> Yodude: you can run everything from the terminal so it is useful to learn how to use it first. If you are using nautilus you can see what permissions you have but you may change them only with the terminal.
[08:18] <kitche> ahave close the terminal
[08:18] <orionrobots> ahave - or just type exit
[08:18] <BigMac> seraphim: And clicking that box that pops up will open my evolution mail box
[08:18] <orionrobots> ahave - or press ctrl-d
[08:18] <ahave> ah! yes, exit
[08:18] <ahave> thanks
[08:18] <Yodude> i just need to give the file root access man
[08:18] <ProN00b> if i have eth0, eth1 and ppp0, what connection is tried first when i try to connect to an ip ? (and how can i influence that ?
[08:18] <Yodude> i spent a good time downloading it why won't it work
[08:18] <soundray> Yodude: no you don't
[08:18] <Stormx2> Yodude: Giving a file root access? o.o
[08:19] <soundray> Yodude: you need to install drivers from ubuntu, not from nvidia
[08:19] <seraphim> BigMac: nearly ;D there's no box popping up, just a small envelope in the tray. hovering it displays sender an title, klicking opens your mail-program
[08:19] <yeniklasor> How can I use with terminal SPACE ( ) For example ".../Program Files/MoonStar/"
[08:19] <Yodude> lol but i asked someone b4 n they said it works and nvidia says it works
[08:19] <yeniklasor> Program Files has space and terminal don't see i
[08:19] <yeniklasor> it
[08:19] <soundray> Yodude: watch out, ubotu will send you a link with instructions:
[08:19] <soundray> !nvidia > Yodude
[08:19] <Stormx2> yeniklasor: You can either escape it (\ ) or just use quotes, e.g. cd "Program Files" or cd 'Program Files'
[08:20] <ahave> another question.. lets say i want to launch FF from the terminal, but i want the terminal to continue to be active. what command will do that?
[08:20] <seraphim> yeniklasor: ".../Program\ Files/..."
[08:20] <orionrobots> I gotta go. Nice chatting with you.
[08:20] <Stormx2> yeniklasor: The first example would be cd Program\ Files
[08:20] <soundray> Yodude: do yourself a favor, forget what you've heard and follow the detailed instructions in those links
[08:20] <kitche> ahave: firefox & you want the &
[08:20] <ahave> ah, thanks again :)
[08:20] <vox754> ProN00b: I think you may check "gedit /etc/network/interfaces"
[08:20] <Yodude> but they say i have to download it from the repository
[08:21] <Yodude> do i need to again? oh man!
[08:21] <soundray> Yodude: it's your best chance of getting it to work.
[08:21] <Yodude> my connection is only 7KB it takes a "while" to download
[08:21] <BigMac> seraphim: the name is mail-notification? because when I type that and hit enter I get nothing
[08:21] <kitche> Yodude if you upgraded your kernel don't bother installed the nvidia driver that is in the repo at least for right now
[08:22] <vox754> ahave: if you've got time you may try to read "man sh". It is long, but it may give you some insight to the shell. "man bash" is much longer.
[08:22] <ahave> yet again.. is there a way to hotkey a button for a terminal? say make F12 pop up a term?
[08:22] <seraphim> BigMac: use "sudo apt-get install mail-notification-evolution"
[08:22] <ahave> vox754, alright. i will check that out when i have the time
[08:22] <EnsignRedshirt> ahave: Yes (re: hotkey)
[08:23] <seraphim> BigMac: i'm not sure how it works with evolution, i use thunderbird as mail-client
[08:23] <BigMac> oh ok
[08:23] <ahave> vox754, still slow on getting use to the linux thing.. im on day 2!! :D
[08:23] <yaman> please i need another link for this camera driver https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=185953  cause i can't get my laptop cam work and i need it to work
[08:23] <vox754> ahave: welcome. Press "Alt+F2" then type "gnome-terminal"
[08:23] <soundray> ahave: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts, last option in Desktop
[08:24] <sigger_> trying to mount an nfs share on my LAN via ubuntu desktop,  I asked earlier and was told Sys, Admin, Shared Folders.  That seems to be for exporting, not mounting remote share.  Anyone?
[08:24] <BigMac> ok seraphim, I installed it, now how do I open it because I don't see it in the bar
[08:25] <sigger_> oh and I already loaded nfs-common,etc
[08:25] <seraphim> BigMac: "mail-notification" ;)
[08:25] <jnex26> hi all again,
[08:25] <vox754> sigger_: sorry, too many newbies here... but if you get it to work let us know.
[08:25] <niek> Hi
[08:25] <ahave> wow. thanks again vox754 and soundray
[08:25] <davin> Should I use kdecore or kde-base if I want to add KDE without apps?
[08:25] <sigger_> vox754: hehe. sure.
[08:26] <seraphim> BigMac: i put it into system -> preferences -> sessions -> startup programs
[08:26] <soundray> !nfs | sigger_
[08:26] <ubotu> sigger_: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:26] <BigMac> ok I will try to figure out how to do that
[08:26] <niek> Does Ubuntu support dual display?
[08:26] <ahave> one last Q, then i go read-up some more.. yesterday ubuntu lockedup on me when i inserted my pcmica card.. does ubuntu not allow hot-swaping? or was this a fluke. and how should i go about fixing this, drivers to be updated?
[08:27] <jnex26> can anyone please help me with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2135077#post2135077
[08:27] <vox754> niek: you kidding? Linux invented cereal and dual display the same day...
[08:27] <niek> lol
[08:28] <niek> okay
[08:28] <niek> Hm. Other problem
[08:28] <EnsignRedshirt> niek: Depends what you mean by "support".  You can do it, but it is not automatic.  You'll have to tweak xorg.conf
[08:28] <gop> any here know if I could use virtualbox images in vmplayer
[08:28] <gop> !vmserver
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <gop> !vmwareserver
[08:29] <jexdawg13> i just installed ATI drivers using Envy and now when i start ubuntu it loads and right before the actual desktop comes up, my screen turns off... but ubuntu is still running - i can even hear the "startup" noise. how can i fix it? any ideas?
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmwareserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <gop> !Envy
[08:29] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[08:29] <niek> I have a new computer (get it for my birthday) and my old pc was 1152*864 (resolution) now, the new pc, has the same monitor, but it cant handle 1152*864!? (I cant select it in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution)
[08:29] <EnsignRedshirt> !twinview | niek
[08:29] <ubotu> niek: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:29] <BigMac> seraphim:sorry to be such a noob, but where is this file stored?
[08:30] <yeniklasor> How can I make a symbolic link. If this file don't on my computer?
[08:30] <phichipsi> hi, is there any tool with graphical interface that i could use to resize a few images to a special size at one time? i know there is gimp and co but i would like to just select the pics and then set a size t owhich they are resized
[08:30] <zero88> whats the command if u are installing something and you dont know the name of your kernel headers is it   'u name' -r or somehting liek that?
[08:30] <vox754> niek: you probably have a wrong driver, or wrong options; you need to know how to edit "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:31] <vox754> gop: you're back. How is it going?
[08:31] <gop> everything find
[08:31] <gop> fine
[08:31] <Sanne> zero88: uname -r
[08:31] <gop> do I recall yo
[08:31] <gop> err do  I recall you
[08:31] <niek> Hm. I edited it, and inserted my resolution on all color depths. But it doesnt work (not even after a reboot! :o )
[08:31] <zero88> sanne thanks but dont i put them in " " or these ' '
[08:31] <Sanne> zero88: sec, I have to check something
[08:31] <sigger_> fwiw, ubuntu wiki only has info on mounting nfs drives via command line.  no gui/desktop stuff.
[08:32] <zero88> ok
[08:32] <morfar> gay
[08:32] <yeniklasor>  How can I make a symbolic link. If this file don't on my computer?
[08:32] <EnsignRedshirt> zero88: I think you mean `uname -r`
[08:32] <gop> I am back
[08:32] <BigMac> seraphim: Do you mind if I pm you because keeping up with stuff out here is near impossible
[08:32] <Sanne> zero88: if you want to use it in a command, use it as: $(uname -r)
[08:32] <zero88> yes thanks ensignredshirt and thans sanne
[08:32] <zero88> becuse im potting a build to where i put my ieee80211 sources
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: example: sudo apt-get install linux-resticted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:33] <andreas__> Hi. Does anyone know the name of the app that lies as a printer and allows the creation of PDF files from within any printeable application???
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: for a quick test, type: echo $(uname -r)
[08:33] <vox754> gop: yep, I live in your basement
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: now I'm done ;)
[08:33] <yeniklasor> you can Create PDF with openoffice
[08:33] <zero88> sanne k
[08:33] <zero88> sanne thanks
[08:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Sanne: The single back-quotes also work.
[08:33] <Sanne> zero88: you're welcome :)
[08:33] <seraphim> BigMac: i'm not registered in this network, so you can't pm me (at least i can't pm you ;) )
[08:33] <andreas__> Well... I want to create PDF files from within FF
[08:33] <chris^> anyone have a solution for the broken prism2 driver with the new kernel 2.6.17-11?
[08:33] <niek> anyone have a solution for me?
[08:33] <NotWired> every time i install an X related font I get a warning about missing folders... should I worry about this?
[08:34] <andreas__> I believe its called lib-something
[08:34] <Sanne> EnsignRedshirt: I read it's deprecated (and really a nuisance on german keyboards ;)
[08:34] <BigMac> seraphim: Do you have yahoo/msn/aim?
[08:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Sanne: Ah, I didn't know that.  Thanks.
[08:34] <Sanne> EnsignRedshirt: but you're right, of course
[08:34] <seraphim> BigMac: only icq ... 117036506
[08:34] <omgsunny> hello i am running edgy on my laptop and i would like  connect s-video to my laptop and watch it on my tv.  how can i do this?
[08:34] <ShiftyPowers> guys, to test out feisty, I can simply replace edgy with feisty in my sources.list right? at least for the official repos?
[08:35] <seraphim> BigMac: we could join #akljghauilvhaskg
[08:35] <yeniklasor>  How can I make a symbolic link. If this file don't on my computer?
[08:35] <drake> Hello, I am using a Realtek on-board audio card which fortunately has been detected and is usable. However, the sound output is very low. Any solutions? Thanks.
[08:35] <vox754> andreas__, try "PDF Creator" or something like that, search the internet for Open CD, then look a the program there, and find Linux equivalent.
[08:35] <jnex26> hello can anyone help me with this
[08:35] <jnex26> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=213507 Please it's about network performance I should beable to download at 600+K i'm now running at a steady 19K
[08:35] <ubuntu> ralall
[08:36] <zero88> im trying to build a ipe3945 driver,and it is asking me to point where my ieee80211 sources are,but there are several locattions.what should i do?
[08:36] <EnsignRedshirt> ShiftyPowers: You might want to look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[08:36] <omgsunny> how do you send video through s-video on laptop, to watch on tv?
[08:36] <ShiftyPowers> EnsignRedshirt, just saw that
[08:36] <ShiftyPowers> thanks bud
[08:37] <andreas__> Vox754 > Well that`ll mean a stand-alone program. I`m looking for one that identifies as a printer. Had it before but changed to pclinuxos and didn`t write down the name of the app.
[08:37] <Sanne> andreas__: for kubuntu/kde there's kprinter that supplies a pdf printer, if you don't mind to install kde apps. Or, you could print to file (*.ps) and use pstopdf (or ps2pdf?) to convert.
[08:37] <EnsignRedshirt> ShiftyPowers: And don't forget that if you decide you don't like it, your stuck.  I don't think there is a "downgrade" option, other than reinstall.
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> *you're
[08:38] <niek> Did i forget something or what? Because i really want 1152*864 on my computer, not 1024*768. :(
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> He left... I'm sure he knew that. :)
[08:38] <andreas__> Sanne > Thanks! I believe it`s ps2pdf
[08:38] <jnex26> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2135077#post2135077 here is the correct link please help me
[08:38] <coucou54> bonjour
[08:39] <coucou54> Quelqu'un pourrait m'expliquer comment faire pour qu'un site heberg sur un pc personnel soit accessible depuis internet ?
[08:39] <LoveDuckie> hey there
[08:39] <omgsunny> niek, i have the same problem, do you know how to get 1280x800
[08:39] <Sanne> andreas__: if you go the kprinter route, you would put "kprinter" in "Print command" in the printer properties.
[08:40] <niek> No. I have no idea. omgsunny. I want a higher res, but i cant get it. And nobody has a solution for me :(
[08:40] <vox754> andreas__: I currently have that program installed on my XP partition, and it IS recognized as a printer. I had tested it on Internet Explorer and Firefox, not here in Ubuntu, though.
[08:40] <omgsunny> niek, i had found something about this, and tried it but go no results.  i can't remember the name of it now.
[08:40] <Sanne> andreas__: there's also cups-pdf (PDF printer for CUPS, universe), but I haven't used it and don't know how it works.
[08:41] <niek> did you tried dpkr-reconfigure xserver-xorg omgsunny?
[08:41] <vox754> Sanne: the guy left, you know...
[08:41] <niek> *dpkr = dpkg
[08:41] <niek> i thought it was that command.
[08:41] <jason__> After searching for a while, I now understand that the VNC setup on ubuntu is referred to as "vino". However what I really need to know is, where is the logfile for vino connections?
[08:41] <Sanne> vox754: always when I'm not looking!! Gaaaah. Thanks ;)
[08:41] <vox754> Sanne: feels bad, I know...
[08:42] <drake> How I can increase the volume of my sound card. Is very low and the volume is 100%
[08:42] <sigger_> andreas: when you were using the pdf prog you're trying to re-find, do you recall if it allowed for security (e.g. no copy, no printing)?
[08:42] <Sanne> vox754: yes, they are all so hasty sometimes, those young'uns ;)
[08:42] <lizardman> about vnc, how do i make it look at another port than the default?
[08:43] <vox754> sigger_, andreas, left you know...
[08:43] <omgsunny> niek, no
[08:43] <sigger_> oh, missed it.  thx
[08:43] <assasukasse> hi everyone, i wish to connect via SSH to my pc, but i don't want to use the password, i prefer the file autentication system, how can i do it?
[08:43] <harisund> assasukasse: do you mean the key based authentication?
[08:43] <assasukasse> moreover, i can SSH on any port or i am obliged to 22?
[08:43] <assasukasse> harisund exactly
[08:43] <jnex26> anyone have any ideas !!!!!
[08:43] <zero88> can someone help me with a quick issue building a driver with the ieee80211??
[08:43] <harisund> assasukasse: no, you can ssh to any port as long as you acn setup the server to listen on that port
[08:43] <jason__> lizardman: if you mean using the vncviewer, just append the port number to the end of the address. like... 127.0.0.1:5902
[08:43] <harisund> assasukasse: you want me to walk you through it?
[08:44] <chris^> anyone have a solution for the broken prism2 driver with the new kernel 2.6.17-11?
[08:44] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[08:44] <assasukasse> thanks harisund
[08:44] <poohma> drake: double-klick on speaker icon and check what volume they're all set to
[08:44] <assasukasse> harisund i am in front of the pc so if u have time i can be swift
[08:44] <harisund> assasukasse: ok, first, what's the situation? Do you have a Ubuntu box (with root access) that has SSH server installed?
[08:44] <exs> guys, what is that opensource windows app that is usd to convert mp3s??
[08:44] <assasukasse> yep
[08:44] <lizardman> no i mean the server actually
[08:44] <harisund> assasukasse: so do you want to beign with changing the port number, or do you want the key based authentication to be done first?
[08:44] <assasukasse> harisund yes i have edgy eft with openssh server installed
[08:45] <assasukasse> port first
[08:45] <exs> nevermind, razor lame
[08:45] <Clubbed> hi, I am unable to mount my cdrom drive by just putting a cd in, I also cannot access it from Computer, it says it cannot open fstab-permission denied. but when i type sudo umount -t iso9660 /dev/hda  /media/cdrom0
[08:45] <Clubbed>  it mounts
[08:45] <harisund> assasukasse: ok good. I am assuming you are familiar with the whole sudo thing?
[08:45] <yeniklasor> ok Is there any way to edit symbolic links?
[08:45] <vox754> harisund: if you are going to guide him I suggest moving to a private channel like #harisund ; just my opinion.
[08:45] <assasukasse> harisund yes
[08:45] <harisund> vox754: good idea (again :))
[08:46] <harisund> assasukasse: I just messaged you ... did you get that message?
[08:47] <jnex26> hello any help from anyone AT ALL
[08:47] <alexd> hi
[08:47] <FingerPie> relax
[08:47] <phaedra> Clubbed, Check to see if your user is in the cdrom group.
[08:47] <matjan> hi, where can i find the directory with the kernel headers? i just updated to 2.6.15-28 and need to reconfigure vmware now
[08:47] <ptrg> hi everyone, wondering if i could get help with a kxdocker problem. i've googled it but i can't seem to find a solution there is a big black box around it when i mouseover the dock, any ideas?
[08:47] <vox754> jnex26: sorry, sometimes it's hard... keep trying...
[08:47] <jnex26> figerpie - can you help me
[08:48] <Aggrav8d> anyone here good with proftpd virtual servers?  I have one server running but my second one refuses to give a welcome message so clients just timeout.
[08:48] <jnex26> i just need pointing in the right direction
[08:48] <Clubbed> phaedra he's in "admin" group
[08:48] <wiredog[mobile] > hi folks
[08:48] <jason__> matjan: did you look in /usr/src ?
[08:48] <Clubbed> and has cd rom privilages
[08:48] <wiredog[mobile] > does anyone know how ubuntu loads modules during the boot process ?
[08:48] <Sanne> mat: you need to install them separately. whenthey are installed, you can look in Synaptic where the files went (under package properties)
[08:48] <matjan> jason__, yes, but there i only find the directories for 2.6.15-27
[08:49] <Sanne> mat: sorry
[08:49] <Sanne> matjan: you need to install them separately. whenthey are installed, you can look in Synaptic where the files went (under package properties)
[08:49] <phaedra> Clubbed, Edit the cdrom group and add the user there.
[08:49] <vox754> matjan, use "locate header"
[08:49] <Betatux> wiredog : is it 'depmod' you looking for ?
[08:49] <wiredog[mobile] > because i`d like to prevent the wireless module ipw2200 from beeing loaded during boot
[08:49] <drayen> has anyone managed to get mysql-workbench working in 6.10?
[08:49] <zero88> DO i have to chmod these files if i get this message, but they are there in the in-tree location?   cp: cannot stat `{*.c,in-tree/{Makefile,Kconfig},compat.h}': No such file or directory
[08:50] <Clubbed> phaedra, i dont have a cd rom group,s hould i really have one?
[08:50] <wiredog[mobile] > right now ubuntu loads the driver module by default
[08:50] <kitche> wiredog[mobile] : blacklist it
[08:50] <wiredog[mobile] > blacklist aint what i want
[08:50] <gabriela> hi
[08:50] <wiredog[mobile] > because i want to load it manual
[08:51] <gabriela> can i use kde and gnome in the same computer?
[08:51] <matjan> vox754, when i do 'locate 2.6.15-28', it finds nothing...
[08:51] <mjr> yes
[08:51] <gabriela> i just want to tray kde
[08:51] <lizardman> I was trying to make the vnc server listen to another port than the default
[08:51] <apecat> gabriela: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <gabriela> apecat im installing using synaptic
[08:52] <vox754> matjan, then you have nothing... are you sure you got the files? It may be a dumb question, but it's crucial...
[08:52] <gabriela> is it ok?
[08:52] <phaedra> Clubbed, Try this fstab entry : /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:52] <wiredog[mobile] > sou, no one knows how ubuntu decides to load modules during boot process ?
[08:52] <apecat> gabriela: well install the package kubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <phaedra> Clubbed, Replace hdd with your drive.
[08:52] <mwe> matjan: locate only finds files in certain places
[08:52] <zero88> can someone tell me please what this means?   cp: cannot stat `{*.c,in-tree/{Makefile,Kconfig},compat.h}': No such file or directory
[08:52] <jason__> wiredog[mobile] : I'm no expert with modules, but I think to do what your wanting to do, you have to recompile the kernel and use the <M> option on the module in question. Although I could be compleatly wrong.
[08:52] <vox754> wiredog[mobile] : you blacklist the module, and you load it manually with "sudo modprobe ipn2200" or whichever you want.
[08:52] <Suspect> Hey everyone - Can someone tell me how to blacklist fglrx from the ubuntu updater please?
[08:53] <apecat> gabriela: doesn't make any difference, i'd advice you to try that apt-get command, it'll do everything for you, even faster than with synaptic
[08:53] <gabriela> apecat i just choose kde and synaptic chooses everything else is downloding like 340 files
[08:53] <matjan> vox754, 'uname -r' tells me 2.6.15-28-386
[08:53] <Betatux> wiredog[mobile]  : # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[08:53] <apecat> gabriela: yes that's what it does
[08:53] <matjan> vox754, so i am pretty sure i have it
[08:53] <wiredog[mobile] > jason__, i already built my custom kernel (2.6.20)
[08:53] <mwe> zero88: it means cp is trying to copy a file that doesn't exist
[08:53] <Clubbed> phaedra do i need to reboot to apply the changes?
[08:53] <apecat> gabriela: make sure that you install the package kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <apecat> it includes a lot of other packages
[08:53] <chris^> anyone have a solution for the broken prism2 driver with the new kernel 2.6.17-11?
[08:53] <apecat> which makes up the kubuntu-customized kde
[08:54] <ptrg> anyone here know how to solve a problem with kxdocker where there is a large black box around it?
[08:54] <amonkey> i started azureus today and it's in russian now. what's going on?
[08:54] <zero88> mwe thanks, but those files do exist inside the in-tree folder, in the ieee80211 folder?
[08:54] <wiredog[mobile] > vox754, thx, i guess i give blacklisting a chance ... even if i dont like the idea
[08:54] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[08:54] <gabriela> apecat and once is installed how can i choose to start with one or the other? thanks
[08:54] <apecat> gabriela: if you install just kde you'll not get what you want. kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <zero88> mwe but is it looking somewhere else?
[08:54] <matjan> vox754, wait... i think i found the problem, the kernel is installed, the headers are not
[08:54] <apecat> gabriela: you will be able to select to start either a gnome or kde session in your login manager, gdm or kdm
[08:54] <wiredog[mobile] > Betatux, normaly i would expect ubuntu use the /etc/modules mechanism, but the module aint listed in that file
[08:54] <phaedra> Clubbed, Try to mount as user first.  You may have to reboot...  I can't remember if it'll be read in again without another comand.
[08:54] <Aggrav8d_> amonkey - the default language setting got changed somehow
[08:55] <wiredog[mobile] > so i wonder why its loaded nevertheless
[08:55] <mwe> zero88: I would think it's looking in the current working directory
[08:55] <amonkey> Aggrav8d, how do i change it back? in azureus? in ubuntu?
[08:55] <apecat> gabriela: if you just wanna try kde, you can stick with ubuntus default login manager, gdm. if you switch to kde later, you could enable kdm as default, just ask how
[08:55] <flayspray> Does anyone know the best way to share a partition mounted as a folder (/home/data) between 2 users on the same machine so that both users will be able to create, edit, and delete files within that folder and all it's child folders? I've looked into ACLs and umask but I can't seem to find a solution without having to change permissions every time manually..
[08:55] <vox754> matjan: the headers you need to compile, but I don't think you need them to run. Try "sudo aptitude install linux-headers"
[08:55] <LinTux> when I install a new theme what should the file format be that I open?
[08:55] <zero88> mwe i see,so i should be inside the in-tree directory
[08:55] <Aggrav8d_> amonkey - in azureus.
[08:55] <gabriela> ok
[08:56] <apecat> gabriela: the installation process will ask you to chose between gdm and kdem while installing all the packages that kubuntu-desktop includes
[08:56] <Clubbed> phaedra im still unable to mount it myself
[08:56] <mwe> zero88: I think. the parent of it. it says intree/blah
[08:56] <Sanne> gabriela: and just so you know, you can use kde apps in gnome and vice versa.
[08:56] <matjan> vox754, i see in synaptic that they are not installed, but i need them to reconfigure vmware
[08:56] <gabriela> i have a lot to learn
[08:56] <phaedra> Clubbed, You may need to reboot to have the new fstab recognized.
[08:56] <vox754> matjan: you see, simple questions, simple solutions; good work.
[08:56] <Clubbed> ok, will try
[08:56] <mwe> zero88: what are you trying to do?
[08:57] <amonkey> Aggrav8d_:  , looks like it was actually  armenian. thanks.
[08:57] <Sanne> gabriela: don't worry, you will :)
[08:57] <zero88> mwe,hm in the ieee80211 directory the command sudo make patch_kernel works,but doesnt find the files wich are in the in-tree location.when i sudo make patch_kernel in the in-tree directory i get   make: *** No rule to make target `patch_kernel'.  Stop.
[08:57] <zero88> 
[08:57] <wiredog[mobile] > flayspray, put the two users in one group (eg. datausers), ans set the sticky bit for the group
[08:57] <Aggrav8d_> np
[08:57] <lymph> flayspray: can you make a group for the two users and set the directory permissions for that group?
[08:57] <gabriela> all the things that you said are new for me
[08:57] <matjan> vox754, you're right... thanks for being the punchbag ;-)
[08:57] <gabriela> where are you freom sanne and apecat?
[08:57] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[08:57] <apecat> gabriela: while i don't want to confuse you with unncecessary information, i want you to understand what the package kubuntu-desktop is. It's a meta package, which as the name implies doesn't contain anything but info about a bunch of other packages that you'll want to set up a proper kde desktop on ubuntu
[08:57] <zero88> mwe, im building my ipw3945 driver,wich cant find the ieee80211 sources wich ive tried to redirect for it wtih ieee80211_inc and such
[08:57] <Aggrav8d_> can anyone help me configure proftpd?  I've already asked in the official forums and they're not responding.
[08:57] <zero88> mwe but no luck yet
[08:58] <NoWhereMan> are you having issues with usb as I do? :(
[08:58] <chris^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358085&highlight=wlan <-- Same Problem here, any solution
[08:58] <vox754> matjan: I'm what? I'm gonna cut you!
[08:58] <chris^> ?
[08:58] <apecat> gabriela: fromt he internets ;)
[08:58] <mwe> zero88: do you have the kernel headers installed?
[08:58] <zero88> mwe so i was trying to do the other option wich was to patch the kernel
[08:58] <flayspray> wiredog and lymph: thanks... I'll go check out the sticky bit
[08:58] <apecat> gabriela: helsinki, finland
[08:58] <matjan> vox754, :-)
[08:58] <zero88> mwe i think i do,but im not sure,would you havppen to know whte command?
[08:58] <gabriela> im from mexico
[08:58] <mwe> zero88: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:58] <vox754> flayspray: set permissions for a group, then make the users part of that group.
[08:58] <pbureau> zero88,  you will need apt-get install build-essentials as well
[08:59] <apecat> gabriela: warmer than here i suppose :)
[08:59] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[08:59] <chris^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358085&highlight=wlan <-- Same Problem here, any solution?
[08:59] <mwe> pbureau: build-essential ;)
[08:59] <gabriela> let me get it this way, im using gnome right now but i just want to try kde is it ok with this computer, im mean nothing bad gonna happen?
[08:59] <pbureau> opps am I being typonese agin ?
[08:59] <jason__> does anyone know where I can find extremely detailed information for the vnc/vino system in gnome/ubuntu? I really want to find a logfile for vino, or at least configure vino so that it keeps a log. But all I am finding on the net, is simple tutorials on how to use the "remote desktop dialog". And man vino shows nothing, And the README for vino is equally useless.
[08:59] <gabriela> what do you mean apecat?
[08:59] <NoWhereMan> guys, nobody with usb issues with -11 update? :(
[08:59] <mwe> pbureau: should have been named build-essentials, though ;)
[08:59] <yeniklasor>  Is there any way to edit symbolic links?
[09:00] <apecat> gabriela: ehm well i congratulated you about the weather over at your place
[09:00] <mwe> yeniklasor: create a replacement link
[09:00] <pbureau> mwe,  I do a search on synaptic with build and it always finds it :) I am lazy
[09:00] <yeniklasor> how
[09:00] <zero88> mwe ok i am upgrading now
[09:00] <jnex26> please please please please please can anyone help me
[09:00] <apecat> gabriela: -17 degrees Celsius / 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit here at the moment
[09:00] <gabriela> today is cold here we are like 10 degrees C
[09:00] <zero88> pbureau i think i do have the buildessentials becuase i have the make command
[09:00] <wiredog[mobile] > well thx folks
[09:00] <mwe> yeniklasor: ln -fns file link
[09:01] <vox754> matjan: also "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:01] <mwe> yeniklasor: or remove the old one and use ln -s
[09:01] <gabriela> apecat here is colder that in your place
[09:01] <vox754> !offtopic > gabriela
[09:01] <gabriela> another quiestion i installed gajim
[09:01] <pbureau> lol I have the windows open right now....:)
[09:01] <gabriela> but i just dont know how to use it
[09:02] <gabriela> i mean none of my friends have it
[09:02] <gabriela> apecat still there?
[09:02] <apecat> gabriela: vox754 is trying to say that, while it's nice to talk about the wwather its hard to follwo a tech support discussion when somebody chats about the weather (and -17 is colder than 10 ;p)
[09:02] <apecat> gabriela: yes
[09:03] <gabriela> a ok sorry for that im a rookie here
[09:03] <mikey5555> bye
[09:03] <vox754> gabriela: short answers, yes KDE can fail, you need a tutorial for GAIM,
[09:03] <apecat> gabriela: no problem. good irc culture is one of the best kept secrets ;)
[09:04] <apecat> which you only learn by being a rookie at some point ;)
[09:04] <gabriela> is not gaim is gajim
[09:04] <mwe> !gajim
[09:04] <ubotu> gajim: Jabber client written in PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 2370 kB, installed size 7980 kB
[09:05] <alexd> hi i need some help
[09:05] <HP_Vue> I need some help! I just installed ubuntu on another computer, and I can't connect to the internet! I configured the setting properly and I disengaged ipv6 and it still dosn't work!
[09:05] <lizardman> Jason: what version of vino are you using?
[09:05] <starkillua> bonsoir
[09:05] <HP_Vue> SOme someone help
[09:05] <HP_Vue> Please
[09:05] <apollo13> I have got a little problem with my microfon, When I klick on Test for audio-capture (under system->preferences->sound) I get the following error: gconfaudiorsc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink \n profile=chat: Resource busy or not available Any ideas?
[09:06] <alexd> i was installing some stuff and the installer crashed, now my wifi card doesn't show up.  Can anyone help?
[09:06] <jason__> lizardman: one sec Il go look. and btw, for some reason your chat didnt show up in red for me. I hope i havnt missed other messages.
[09:06] <calavera> yuda
[09:06] <veracon_> Anyone know of a free utility for opening .rar files?
[09:07] <jason__> lizardman: Gnome vino 2.16.0
[09:07] <EnsignRedshirt> veracon_: unrar, I think.
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> veracon_ use apt to install unrar
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> then `unrar e <your file<`
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> >` *
[09:07] <apollo13> veracon_ unrar-free unrar rar
[09:07] <gabriela> dont remeber the name but in synaptic put rar and it will find the program
[09:07] <FliesLikeABrick> it is called unrar in apt
[09:07] <mwe> !unrar
[09:07] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:07] <veracon_> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[09:07] <veracon_> Hm
[09:07] <gabriela> yeap unrar
[09:08] <Seveas> !-unrar
[09:08] <ubotu> unrar has no aliases - added by gnomefreak on 2006-07-31 21:54:02
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> veracon_ you need universe enabled
[09:08] <Seveas> ubotu!
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> maybe multiverse
[09:08] <veracon_> I'm pretty sure I do
[09:08] <veracon_> Ah
[09:08] <veracon_> Will try multiverse
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> non-free so probably multiverse
[09:08] <Seveas> !unrar =~ s/^/<reply>/
[09:08] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[09:08] <Seveas> !unrar
[09:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:08] <HP_Vue> Does ubuntu work w/ a wireless network?
[09:08] <apecat> !wireless
[09:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:08] <weslyr> is there a webpage where i can see which package versions are available? I'd like to see how up2date the available packages are (i'm not in ubuntu)
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> yes HP_Vue though it may take some work to get your card working
[09:08] <Alarm> hello. is it normal my local ip to be 127.0.1.1 ? i mean when i ping localhost, it pings 127.0.1.1 , shouldnt it be 127.0.0.1 ?
[09:08] <michael> Can anyone help? May samba share doesn't want to work after I restarted it.
[09:08] <FliesLikeABrick> the atheros chipsets and most intel adapters work by default
[09:08] <nettuno43> !bluetooth
[09:08] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:09] <veracon_> Er, doesn't Edgy have a multiverse repos?
[09:09] <veracon_> Oh, wait
[09:09] <veracon_> typo, haha
[09:09] <jason__> lizardman: that is what shows up when I type "vino-preferences --version", If there is another command I am not seeing it.
[09:10] <TuGGer> Hi. I'm thinking of switching from mandriva 2006 to ubuntu. Couple of questions: can you use kde as default desktop? Where would I find a list of apps that can/are installed in default? Tia
[09:10] <veracon_> TuGGer, for KDE get Kubuntu
[09:10] <robdeman> gang I added a new harddrive
[09:10] <robdeman> my 50 gig was full
[09:10] <robdeman> so I added another 60 gigz to my 2nd IDE controller
[09:10] <apecat> TuGGer: you can browse packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com (both ubuntu and kubuntu packages)
[09:10] <robdeman> how do I mount it?
[09:11] <mwe> !mount | robdeman
[09:11] <ubotu> robdeman: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:11] <cefx_> Hey.  What's the best way to automatically detect a new display? Xorg -configure?  I don't know all the details of my actual display...unfortunately....
[09:11] <robdeman> I did create a ext3 partition on it
[09:11] <TuGGer> thanks that's what I needed!
[09:11] <chris^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358085&highlight=wlan <-- Same Problem here, any solution?
[09:11] <AndroidData> hi. using Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. I installed vncserver and ran it on port 2500. I can connect locally using my LAN, but port 2500 is closed via the internet. I've forwarded the port through my router and I setup IPtables to allow specifically this port. what could be causing this?
[09:12] <veracon_> unrar worked perfectly, thanks all.
[09:12] <apecat> TuGGer: and, remember that ubuntu and kubuntu is the same thing with a different set of default install stuff for desktop stuff
[09:12] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: In a terminal: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/<partition> /mount/point/here
[09:12] <morfar> !DiskMounter
[09:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:13] <mnoir> I have a position/obscuring problem.  URI: http://smf.wrweb.net/  - code and css validate - buttons on the screen.  the bar that they are on is in the footer div and has a bg color set.  the footer is positioned using bottom: 2em.  this obscures the text at the bottom of the text area.    how do i get it behind the text?
[09:13] <mwe> chris^: go back to the working kernel or compile it yourself I guess. Until a fix is released
[09:13] <illriginal> guys i dunno how to fix my sound... and im using the alsamixer to jack up the volume.
[09:13] <TUX__> hey
[09:13] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: Presumably you will want it to be mounted automatically.  For that you can add a line to /etc/fstab
[09:13] <AndroidData> hi. using Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. I installed vncserver and ran it on port 2500. I can connect locally using my LAN, but port 2500 is closed via the internet. I've forwarded the port through my router and I setup IPtables to allow specifically this port. what could be causing this?
[09:13] <TUX__> does anyone know of a macro recorder for ubuntu?
[09:13] <robdeman> ok
[09:13] <jnex26> HI can anyone help me please
[09:13] <robdeman> can I use an existing mountpoimt (say / ) ?
[09:13] <jnex26> for the 15th time
[09:13] <ompaul> TUX__, what do you want to record?
[09:14] <HP_Vue> Does ubuntu support D-link cards, becuase from the website, I couldn't see it
[09:14] <robdeman> will it automaticlaly extend / with 60 gigz?
[09:14] <pbureau> HP_Vue, sure depends on the card chipset
[09:14] <jason__> AndroidData: Go to https://www.grc.com and use the "ShieldsUP!" tool to probe your ports. that will help to show you what is going on. Sometimes Isp's will block ports like that.
[09:14] <TUX__> ompaul: my clicks, keyboard presses, the works. then play it back
[09:14] <vox754> HP_Vue_ sure let me give you this, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[09:14] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: No.  Not unless you are using LVM (which I know nothing about).
[09:14] <AndroidData> jason__: that's what I'm doing. if I run another server on port 2500, it's open. but when I run vncserver, it remains closed.
[09:14] <mnoir> sorry - that last was in wrong channel
[09:14] <ijk> I asked this a couple of hours ago, but may have expressed myself unclearly. It's about the bottom panel. Is it possible to extend it so that programs ly in say two rows instead of the one now?
[09:14] <aquilo-chan> net
[09:15] <robdeman> Ok so ligical volume management might create some kind of virtual disk rigt
[09:15] <HP_Vue> vox754: Error loading page
[09:15] <robdeman> I could ad dmore space to it
[09:15] <TUX__> ompaul: i've tried xmacro and it's been working until now. have you heard of it?
[09:15] <illriginal> Can someone help me with sound please?
[09:15] <robdeman> by adding more hardware
[09:15] <HP_Vue> pbureau: D-link wua1340
[09:15] <jason__> AndroidData: You are using vncserver, or the gnome default "vino" ie. remote desktop thing?
[09:16] <ompaul> xmacro - Record / Play keystrokes and mouse movements in X displays
[09:16] <pbureau> HP_Vue,  USB ?
[09:16] <HP_Vue> yea
[09:16] <ompaul> TUX__, looking for a GNOME one
[09:16] <pbureau> HP_Vue,  good luck :)
[09:16] <TUX__> ompaul: i believe so
[09:16] <HP_Vue> ???
[09:16] <EnsignRedshirt> robdeman: Apparently, LVM can make multiple disks look like one big disk (or volume).
[09:16] <AndroidData> AndroidData: apt-get install vncserver followed by vncserver :2500 with port 2500 forwarded through the router and unblocked via iptables.
[09:16] <vox754> HP_Vue: just search the web for "ndiswrapper list", there is currently a discussion on this on #ndiswrapper
[09:16] <HP_Vue> pbureau: ???
[09:16] <ompaul> TUX__, somewhere in: gnome-common - common scripts and macros to develop with GNOME or GNOME 2.0
[09:16] <pruBase> robdeman: i guess you can.. if i understand correctly.. you want to mount a new partition of size 60G onto the mount point /..
[09:17] <jason__> AndroidData: If you are using the vncserver there may be something in /etc/vnc.conf that is binding the server to local connections only?
[09:17] <ompaul> TUX__, nothing more specific
[09:17] <jnex26> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357940 please help me
[09:17] <pbureau> HP_Vue,  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+wua1340&btnG=Google+Search
[09:17] <HP_Vue> thanks vox754 and pbureau
[09:17] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my sound please?
[09:17] <TUX__> ompaul: gnome-common?
[09:17] <jnex26> please can i get some help
[09:18] <ompaul> TUX__, it is the only package that seems to hold an indication macros and GNOME
[09:18] <mwe> jnex26: I get horrible performance over smb as well. I haven't found a solution yet
[09:18] <jnex26> it's not just smb it's everything
[09:18] <TUX__> ompaul: so "sudo apt-get install gnome-common" would work?
[09:18] <pbureau> jnex26, no idea
[09:19] <ompaul> TUX__, you should already have it
[09:19] <Yodude> hey why are the repositoris so slow to download from!!!
[09:19] <TUX__> ompaul: so how do i acsess this?
[09:19] <ompaul> TUX__, actually you wont -- my mistake
[09:19] <AndroidData> odd. it seems my vncserver is binding to 5900 + the port number I specify
[09:19] <ompaul> so install it
[09:19] <Yodude> on my 7KB connection i'm always havnig errors and timeouts and only get to 1KB per second
[09:20] <pbureau> Yodude, you havea 7KB connection.. what you using 300bps modem ?
[09:20] <ompaul> TUX__, I only found it using apt so no further info on it at this time
[09:20] <markedwards> hi all, should update-grub be running automatically after doing an apt-get update that updates the kernel?
[09:20] <BeBraw> after a recent update of ubuntu my fglrx driver stopped working. here's a crash log (http://pastebin.ca/349402). any ideas how to fix it? i have installed restricted modules but for some reason it cannot find the driver
[09:20] <jason__> you mean 5900 + the display number?
[09:20] <TUX__> ompaul: okay, thanks
[09:21] <jnex26> pbureau, where can i go for help with this
[09:21] <AndroidData> jason__: yes. the vncserver I used to use didn't do this
[09:21] <Yodude> no actuALLY it's LAN but it's a long story
[09:21] <jnex26> it seems no-one here knows
[09:21] <Yodude> but nevertheless: it's a pain to download from the repositories!
[09:21] <wiiiwhazilla> hi
[09:21] <Yodude> why ?!
[09:21] <robdeman> pruBase: yes
[09:21] <Sanne> mark487: I think it should, to update the menu.lst
[09:21] <jnex26> and i'm getting seriously miffed by the fact i have a faster u/l than download
[09:21] <Yodude> i thought Firefox should give me at least 5KB
[09:21] <wiiiwhazilla> i wanted to ask anybody know why after a system update just yet my Xserver crashes ?
[09:22] <PriceChild> Hey wiiiwhazilla
[09:22] <pbureau> jnex26, I would think the drivers are at fault... or something is bogged down on your router/modem, you may want to reinstall driver and reboot modem then router and then pc box to see if it solves it (perhaps find a newer driver)
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> hey PriceChild
[09:22] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, Have you installed 3rd party nvidia drivers?
[09:22] <ahave> is networking with win2000 any diffrent than winXP?
[09:22] <ahave> from a linux box
[09:22] <markedwards> Sanne: that's what I expected, but it doesn't.
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> or know any methods to debug Xserver display ?
[09:22] <jnex26> where can i find linux drivers for the 875p chipset
[09:22] <_Jaak_> Is there a lot "not just going to work" when i install the new kernel?
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> PriceChild:  i think yes for beryl
[09:22] <wiiiwhazilla> dunno sure
[09:22] <ahave> cause i cant seem to see my win2000 box when connected to my MS network
[09:22] <AndroidData> ok, this is weird.
[09:22] <alexd> hi, my wifi card doesn't show up anymore, an installer froze, and i had to shut off my machine.  when i booted back up, it wasn't there anymore
[09:23] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, How did you install these drivers?
[09:23] <wiiiwhazilla> apt-get
[09:23] <pruBase> robdeman: ok.. so, you want to mount a single partition of size 60 G onto /
[09:23] <Alarm> should my computername and localhost use the same ip ? for example alarm@rockpc , and localhost 127.0.0.1 ?
[09:23] <pbureau> jnex26, search google man
[09:23] <jason__> jnex26: there could be hundreds of things causing that. Once I had a nic that was bad, but it still seemed to work. But whenever it was plugged into a network, it would cause most of the other nodes to be disconnected.
[09:23] <mwe> !ipv6 | Yodude, maybe try disabling ipv6. dunno if it helps.
[09:23] <ubotu> Yodude, maybe try disabling ipv6. dunno if it helps.: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:23] <Sanne> markedwards: you can run it manually.
[09:23] <chris^> alexd: did you upgrade to the 2.6.17-11 kernel?
[09:23] <markedwards> Sanne: right, but I want it to be automatic
[09:23] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: He wants to *add* it to an existing /.  Is that possible, with LVM?
[09:23] <AndroidData> vncserver is running on 5900 + the display number
[09:23] <wiiiwhazilla> it was long ago i installed those
[09:23] <EnsignRedshirt> *without
[09:23] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, you added 3rd party repositories?
[09:23] <AndroidData> grc.com's shieldsup says the port is OPEN! but when I try to connect it says connection failed
[09:23] <wiiiwhazilla> yes
[09:23] <alexd> chris^ no, i didn't, should i?
[09:23] <echosyp> someone help me wiht my broadcom wireless card
[09:24] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, well then you'll have to wait for them to update the packages
[09:24] <Sanne> mark487: you can look in the postinstall file what gets done after install, I'll tell you where to find it in a sec
[09:24] <wiiiwhazilla> no way to fix it ?
[09:24] <markedwards> does everyone else have to run update-grub after a kernel update to get the new kernel to boot?
[09:24] <chris^> alexd: NO! This brakes my wlan card... maybe you have the same issue, but it isn't so..
[09:24] <EnsignRedshirt> markedwards: No, I didn't.
[09:24] <mwe> Alarm: if you use a static local IP you can assign it to the hostname
[09:24] <wiiiwhazilla> dont know any guide for me ?
[09:24] <_Jaak_> Please tell me now, before my whole comp will fail.... is there more then just the nvidia driver going to fail upon kernel update?
[09:24] <markedwards> EnsignRedshirt: how did you update?
[09:24] <alexd> chris^, i am running 6.10
[09:24] <Sanne> markedwards: : you can look in the postinstall file what gets done after install, I'll tell you where to find it in a sec
[09:24] <pruBase> robdeman: create a new partition and mount the ufs using mount command onth a temp mount point.. copy the existing data onto the new partition and then change the fstab to point to the new partition and reboot..
[09:24] <vox754> _Jaak_: YES! Do not update
[09:24] <Alarm> mwe,  in other words  ? sorry
[09:24] <echosyp> anyone know why my broadcom card would not be able to find any wireless?
[09:25] <EnsignRedshirt> markedwards: Just a regular update, but I think I lucked out and didn't have any problems.
[09:25] <_Jaak_> vox754, Yes!? Why bring us an update then1?
[09:25] <wiiiwhazilla> vox754:  when will update prsumably be fixed ?
[09:25] <echosyp> i have the firmware in the appropriat place, and bcm43xx is loaded
[09:25] <Sanne> markedwards: look in /var/lib/dpkg/info for a file called <packagename>.postinst
[09:25] <pbureau> echosyp, what card ?
[09:25] <wiiiwhazilla> i updated :$
[09:25] <echosyp> 4306
[09:25] <mwe> Alarm: if you use DHCP to get an IP both should be 127.0.0.1 if not it doesn't have to be
[09:25] <wiiiwhazilla> can i rollback ?
[09:25] <_Jaak_> I am so confused on this update......
[09:25] <vox754> wiiiwhazilla: nobody knows. Yes you can go back if you have the previous kernel.
[09:25] <pbureau> echosyp,  I have a howto to get it working I have the same one... /msg pbureau  your email Ill send you a file and howto doc
[09:25] <jason__> markedwards: Anything that was built agenst your kernel, like the nvidia drivers. or vmware. You would know if something is, because while installing it, it asked you where to find your headers
[09:26] <wiiiwhazilla> src ?
[09:26] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: Your suggestion will *move* / to the new disk, correct?
[09:26] <wiiiwhazilla> in cant apt-get previous kernel then ?
[09:26] <_Jaak_> "a clear focus on the user and usability (it should "Just Work", TM) "
[09:26] <jason__> sorry wrong person
[09:26] <_Jaak_> lol
[09:26] <vox754> _Jaak_: sometimes they miss the spot... Errors happen.
[09:26] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: yup..
[09:26] <markedwards> EnsignRedshirt: did you use apt-get, or did you update from the gui?
[09:26] <faLUCE> Hi. do you know a program which generates animated coloured matrix on linux? thnks
[09:26] <echosyp> pbureau, i know how to do it, i have the same card in another laptop that works
[09:26] <_Jaak_> vox754, indeed
[09:26] <Alarm> i do use an ip. but somehow a ping to localhost was showing me the ip add. 127.0.0.1 and to rockpc (computer name) , the ip 127.0.1.1 , i changed it on the host both to show on 127.0.0.1 i dont know how well i did actually..
[09:26] <mwe> Alarm: so you don't have to worry about it
[09:26] <jason__> Jaak_: Anything that was built agenst your kernel, like the nvidia drivers. or vmware. You would know if something is, because while installing it, it asked you where to find your headers
[09:26] <EnsignRedshirt> markedwards: I used Synaptic (but that shouldn't matter).
[09:26] <pbureau> echosyp,  okie dokie. then why isnt it working ?
[09:26] <wiiiwhazilla> fuck man ... now my desktop bloddy broken :$
[09:27] <PriceChild> !ohmy | wiiiwhazilla
[09:27] <ubotu> wiiiwhazilla: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:27] <echosyp> pbureau, it just isn't finding any wifi, and im not getting ANY errors
[09:27] <mwe> Alarm: don't do that ;)
[09:27] <trunks> 
[09:27] <_Jaak_> vox754, ubu is great, i was just shocked to not see my comp boot after upate, ill keep to the old kernel, but untill when?
[09:27] <Alarm> hehe i allready did, what could happen ? :)
[09:27] <wiiiwhazilla> thkx PriceChild
[09:27] <Mr680x0> how do I adjust the graphics settings after booting up in recovery mode?
[09:27] <wiiiwhazilla> o_0
[09:27] <Alarm> i mean rockpc and localhost are the same thing, arent they ?
[09:27] <PriceChild> !xconfig | wiiiwhazilla
[09:27] <ubotu> wiiiwhazilla: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[09:27] <pbureau> echosyp, type iwlist <wificard> -scanning  do it see anything (ie my card is eth1 so - iwlist eth1 scanning
[09:27] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: it is possible using lvm.. but you would need a volume manager to do it running on top of the OS
[09:27] <mwe> Alarm: not much I guess.
[09:28] <mwe> Alarm: I don't think it will actually hurt
[09:28] <vox754> _Jaak_: until necessary. Always check the forums.
[09:28] <mwe> Alarm: what's the point, though ?
[09:28] <wiiiwhazilla> thkx PriceChild but how i backup my previous config ?
[09:28] <wiiiwhazilla> since it was a TwinView
[09:28] <TTT_Travis> I just filled up my 320GB drive so I added a 120GB drive I had laying around, is there a way I can make my /data look like one drive without doing a raid?
[09:28] <AngryElf> I've got a bcm43xx, iwconfig shows the correct ESSID, but Invalid for Access point, and It refuses to accept the bit rate (11M) that I give it...any ideas?
[09:28] <Alarm> just wanted to configure my system a bit and my eye went on it and i was curious
[09:28] <TTT_Travis> I right now /data1 is the old drive and /data2 is the new drive
[09:29] <ompaul> !nickspam | tojam_
[09:29] <jason__> AndroidData: Ok so the port is open, when you connect locally it works, but when you connect from a machine outside, it says connection refused?
[09:29] <ubotu> tojam_: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[09:29] <amonbish> sup?
[09:29] <Pntkl> sup?
[09:29] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: That's what I thought. Well, looks like robdeman has left the room.
[09:29] <echosyp> pbureau, it doesn't find anything, but there are at least 10 available
[09:29] <TTT_Travis> but having /data1 and /data2 is a pain
[09:29] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: i havent had success of creating an lvm in ubuntu..
[09:29] <pbureau> AngryElf,  bcm43xx ?>? what chipset ?
[09:29] <mwe> Alarm: I see ;) any 127.*.*.* IP should work I think
[09:29] <PriceChild> wiiiwhazilla, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[09:29] <wiiiwhazilla> thkx
[09:29] <Alarm> okie, thank you a lot
[09:29] <pbureau> echosyp, type lshw -class network does it say DISABLED ?
[09:29] <markedwards> Sanne: I am looking at linux-image-2.6.17-11-server.postinst and I don't see anything pertaining to grub at all
[09:30] <Mr680x0> thanks to whoever it was who helped my reconfigure the xserver
[09:30] <pbureau> AngryElf, what chipset of broadcomm card you got ?
[09:30] <Mr680x0> *me
[09:30] <amonbish> not sure
[09:30] <Pntkl> ?
[09:30] <markedwards> Sanne: I used to use lilo, I wonder if there is some setting on my system that makes it think I am using lilo instead of grub
[09:30] <vox754> AngryElf: why are you limiting? You can try ndiswrapper and blacklisting the bcm43xx driver.
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: I've never tried (and so evert time I boot, I wonder why Ubuntu reports something about LVM... )
[09:30] <kivio> hi
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> *every
[09:30] <sbaush> what's the font for the "live" word in ubuntu-live site?
[09:30] <pruBase> EnsignRedshirt: do you know of a channel that is devoted to network security..
[09:30] <kivio> the update manager wants to install 15 packages, but i can only see 11 in the list
[09:30] <kivio> whats going on?
[09:30] <pbureau> vox754, that methos doesnt work, there is an easier to get it running with fwcutter
[09:30] <Sanne> markedwards: yeah, I also looked into mine and didn't find anything. Still, I didn't have to update-grub after installing another kernel. So I dunno, sorry...
[09:30] <kivio> some sort of "hidden" update?
[09:30] <EnsignRedshirt> pruBase: No
[09:30] <AngryElf> pbureau, bcm4309 according to lspci
[09:31] <Clubbed> can someone help? I did sudo rm -f /bin/bash && sudo ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash and now terminal won't open, how can i revert this?
[09:31] <echosyp> pbureau, it doesn't say disabled anywhere
[09:31] <vox754> pbureau: thanks for the info. I don't have that card so it's up to you to give details.
[09:31] <sbaush> http://www.ubuntulive.com/
[09:31] <pbureau> AngryElf, and your using the ubuntu bcm43xx? then it wont work I can send you a package and howto if you sent me your email
[09:31] <alexd> hi, i have a wireless problem.  I was installing some stuff with add/remove, and the installer froze.  I had to turn off my machine to un-freeze it, and when i turned it back on my wireless card(ath0) didn't show up.  Can someone help?
[09:31] <kivio> update manager says the total size of the updates is 35mb, but counting those 11 packages i can see, i get about 3mb
[09:31] <mwe> Clubbed: you should have done ln -fns /bin/bash /bin/sh instead. boot a live cd and fix it
[09:31] <AngryElf> a "package"
[09:31] <AngryElf> no thanx
[09:31] <pbureau> vox754, I works 5 days and 6 people tested the way I setup the card.. works everytime I need to publish it one of these days
[09:31] <markedwards> Sanne: thanks.  there must be something not set on my system that tells it to update grub, I wonder where that is...
[09:32] <echosyp> AngryElf, what is your issue?
[09:32] <Clubbed> mwe is there a way i could revert this just using gnome?
[09:32] <pbureau> AngryElf,  its a fwcutter tarball you can download it from the web if you prefer
[09:32] <jason__> AndroidData: At this point I would suspect your router may be at fault. If the port appears to be open to the outside world, AND the vnc connection is working (because you can connect locally) Then perhaps the router itself is doing something it shouldnt, or not doing something it should.
[09:32] <mwe> Clubbed: yeah
[09:32] <Clubbed> mwe, how?
[09:32] <mwe> Clubbed: If you can get into gnome, can you?
[09:32] <Clubbed> mwe i am in gnome right now
[09:32] <EnsignRedshirt> Clubbed: You removed the bash command.
[09:32] <Sanne> markedwards: I'm wondering now how on earth my kernels get added to menu.lst ;)
[09:33] <vox754> pbureau: you should have been present the other time a poor guy was having that problem.
[09:33] <mwe> EnigmaCurry: ok
[09:33] <pipegeek> So, I have kind of a strange question
[09:33] <markedwards> Sanne: do you see update-grub run when you update?
[09:33] <pbureau> vox754, lol I try to help when I am online ...
[09:33] <mwe> Clubbed: reinstall bash
[09:33] <pbureau> vox754, like I said I need to get it on ubuntu howto for wif
[09:33] <Clubbed> mwe, how? :S
[09:33] <Sanne> markedwards: I can't remember...
[09:33] <mwe> Clubbed: and NEVER remove /bin/bash again ;)
[09:33] <pbureau> vox it seems to work for 4036, 4039, 4311 and 4318 so far
[09:33] <mwe> Clubbed: from synaptic
[09:34] <vox754> pbureau: I drove that guy mad with my "ndiswrapper" talk, poor guy
[09:34] <jason__> lol wow sorry for laughing but thats something I would never expect to see.
[09:34] <pbureau> vox754, well ndiswrapper && bcm cards seem to really not work (timeouts and other issues)
[09:34] <oggie> hi I need help
[09:34] <trunks> If anyone would happen to know where i can get some audio drivers for my gigabyte motherboard i would be really happy to know :P
[09:35] <wiiiwhazilla> PriceChild:  after dpkg-reconfigure it says no screens found \n XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on Xserver :0:0 \n after 0 requests with 0 events remaining
[09:35] <oggie> how can i install flash plugin on Mozilla , m running ubuntu 5.10
[09:35] <wiiiwhazilla> when i do startx
[09:35] <mwe> !flash | oggie
[09:35] <ubotu> oggie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:35] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:35] <jason__> trunks: what is the model# of the mb?
[09:35] <Clubbed> mwe, i am trying to reinstall it, but synpatic is sitting in "preparing packages" for a minute now
[09:36] <mwe> Clubbed: oh
[09:36] <wiiiwhazilla> how do i apt-get nvidia that works with update ?
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> hi guys, really sorry but i just installed dapper drake and am wondering how to change the screen resolution
[09:36] <oggie> let me see that..
[09:36] <mwe> Clubbed: perhaps it needs bash for something ;(
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> there's only one option in the screen resolution drop down menu
[09:36] <mwe> Clubbed: hmm
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> and it's kind of an unacceptable one
[09:36] <pipegeek> I'm running kubuntu edgy.  About a month ago, I must have done something to have enabled this screen saver, which runs after 5 minutes of inactivity.  I have no idea how I did it, and kscreensaver is certainly disabled from the kde control panel, but still, after five minutes, I get a white X11 logo on a black background.
[09:36] <corevette> what is everyone's favorite game on linux?
[09:36] <Mandrill> !chmod|mandrill
[09:36] <pipegeek> I'd just wait until it started and check 'top', but, obviously, it uses almost no CPU
[09:36] <wiiiwhazilla> enemy-territory
[09:36] <pbureau> pipegeek, check your power settings
[09:36] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> corevette: same gnome
[09:37] <pipegeek> pbureau: disabled power management as root
[09:37] <mwe> Clubbed: edgy?
[09:37] <Clubbed> mwe, yes
[09:37] <pipegeek> I actually created a new account and migrated all my data over, abandoning all my old dotfiles, but the problem persisted
[09:37] <echosyp> pbureau, dmesg | grep eth1 tells me ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[09:37] <wiiiwhazilla> :$
[09:38] <pollywog_> I can't get into my system after an upgrade.  It boots and leaves me at an initramfs prompt complaining it can't find a tty
[09:38] <pipegeek> it is incredibly annoying, because it happens while playing movies, so I have to sit here and jiggle the mouse every four minutes
[09:38] <mwe> Clubbed: I could upload the bash binary to my server for you. then you could download it and place it in /bin and change owner and perms to the correct values
[09:38] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Read /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what res's are listed in your "Screen" section
[09:38] <pbureau> echo well you using ndiswrapper drivers right ?
[09:38] <Sanne> markedwards: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto I find: "Whenever you install kernel updates from the repositories, update-grub is run to update the grub settings." So there *shrug*
[09:38] <pollywog_> this is the second time this has happened
[09:38] <oggie> can u play flash on websites?
[09:38] <pollywog_> I did a reinstall and I now have the same problem
[09:38] <lymph> hello, does anyone else have very tinny/poor recorded audio quality on ubuntu?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[09:38] <wiiiwhazilla> what nvidia driver should i install after update ?
[09:38] <Clubbed> mwe, im sort of new to linux, im not sure how to change perms and owner settings yet, just right click it? i don't want to cause too much annoyance
[09:39] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> jason_ : read? like open that up in terminal?
[09:39] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> major n00b, sorrryyy
[09:39] <mwe> Clubbed: open nautilus and browse to the file
[09:39] <EnsignRedshirt> lymph: Do you mean sound that you recorded on your computer with your mic?
[09:39] <kivio> can someone plz help me? -> http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=updateerrorpk1.png
[09:39] <pbureau> echosyp,  well you using ndiswrapper drivers right ? I encountered that , disabled, unclaimed all statuses with the ndiswrapper drivers...  sorry mate
[09:39] <kivio> i dont understand this :(
[09:39] <markedwards> Sanne: I'm thinking its in /etc/kernel-img.conf
[09:39] <pipegeek> Is there any way I could at least all clients connected to the x server?
[09:39] <pipegeek> err
[09:39] <veracon_> I somehow forgot; how do I see my local IP?
[09:39] <Sanne> markedwards: ah, looking
[09:39] <pipegeek> at least list
[09:39] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: yes, with the internal mic on the laptop or an external mic.
[09:40] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in the terminal, that will show the textfile in gedit for you
[09:40] <Sanne> markedwards: yep. definitely looks like it.
[09:40] <pollywog_> I can't get into my system after an upgrade.  It boots and leaves me at an initramfs prompt complaining it can't find a tty
[09:40] <markedwards> Sanne: I wonder what installs/modifies that file
[09:40] <echosyp> pbureau, iv never had ndiswrapper installed on this machine, but i did use fwcutter to extract the firmware
[09:40] <wiiiwhazilla> pollywog_:  i dont got xserver
[09:40] <EnsignRedshirt> lymph: You could try enabling the "Mic Boost" option in AlsaMixer.
[09:40] <wiiiwhazilla> prolly sorta the same
[09:40] <Sanne> markedwards: we can look which package provides the file at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:40] <pollywog_> xserver?
[09:40] <pbureau> echo cant I send you my howto text file you can check if you missed a step ?
[09:40] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: let me give it a shot
[09:40] <wiiiwhazilla> alltho u dont got tty ;)
[09:40] <pollywog_> no that's not it
[09:40] <Clubbed> mwe, well im willing to try it =/ took me a lot of effort to get ubuntu the way i like it, itll kill me to have to do it all over again
[09:40] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Then scroll down to the part that says,  Section "Screen"
[09:40] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> 1280x800
[09:41] <tsmithe> hi
[09:41] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Thats the only one?
[09:41] <wiiiwhazilla> no tty == no keyboard
[09:41] <pbureau> echosyp,  can' I send you my howto text file you can check if you missed a step ?
[09:41] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> yep
[09:41] <pollywog_> it is not leaving me at a console, it is not booting all the way
[09:41] <mwe> Clubbed: http://dl7.megauploads.org/download.php?id=5B2A54A8
[09:41] <Aar0n444> Hi all
[09:41] <Sanne> markedwards: bummer, doesn't find anything.
[09:41] <wiiiwhazilla> i guess im luckier than u pollywog_
[09:41] <mwe> Clubbed: uploaded it to megauploads instead
[09:41] <tsmithe> right. why do you think my multimedia keys would be recognised in XFCE and not in GNOME? /me detests gnome-settings-daemon. the keycodes aren't even recognised!
[09:41] <williammanda> question....will ubuntu 64 bit work ok with a core 2 duo system?
[09:41] <pollywog_> wiiiwhazilla: yeah
[09:41] <echosyp> pbureau, sorry mate, idk you well enough to give you my e-mail
[09:41] <wiiiwhazilla> but still screwed :$
[09:41] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Thats why you only have one choice then. you may want to read a tutorial about whatever videocard you have. Is it an Nvidia or ATI ?
[09:42] <pollywog_> I mean it was working until some package I installed messed it up
[09:42] <wiiiwhazilla> mostlikely
[09:42] <pollywog_> I think I will have to install Freespire or something
[09:42] <pbureau> echo Ill paste it on paste bin hang on.... (geez it just text file..... get a dummy hotmail account for crying out loud !!)
[09:42] <mwe> Clubbed: got it?
[09:42] <wiiiwhazilla> Freespire ?
[09:42] <pollywog_> yes
[09:42] <wiiiwhazilla> whats that ?
[09:42] <Clubbed> mwe, dang, actually how would i put it in /bin if im logged in as a regular user? i normally sudo nautilus to do that stuff, but... no terminal
[09:42] <alexd> my wireless card isn't showing up in network settings!!! Help!!!
[09:42] <pollywog_> I don't want to install Debian etch again it is too much hasssle
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> hehe
[09:43] <mwe> Clubbed: run command, gksudo nautilus
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> anyhow im expecting a patch
[09:43] <pollywog_> Freespire is the free version of Linspire
[09:43] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> jason_: I think it
[09:43] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> s intel
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> to fix tty and nvidia with new kernel
[09:43] <tsmithe> anyone?
[09:43] <wiiiwhazilla> who can point me ?
[09:43] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: still tinny sound, but louder :)
[09:43] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:43] <Clubbed> mwe, it won't work, it just seems to reload my desktop
[09:43] <mwe> Clubbed: never sudo nautilus.
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> and the max resolution should be like 1650 *1080
[09:44] <mwe> !gksudo | Clubbed
[09:44] <ubotu> Clubbed: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[09:44] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: what does it say if you type, lspci | grep VGA
[09:44] <mwe> Clubbed: oh
[09:44] <pollywog_> is there a way to fix a broken system without a complete restall?
[09:44] <pollywog_> reinstall
[09:44] <jrib> pollywog_: it depends on how it is broken of course
[09:44] <noname> I have downloaded icons from xfce-look.org. where am I going to put them to get them to work? is it in /usr/share/icons/ ? im using xfce
[09:44] <pollywog_> yeah true
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> Intel Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> ?
[09:44] <pollywog_> I have never seen this before so I am lost
[09:44] <NoWhereMan> hi guys
[09:44] <wiiiwhazilla> me neither
[09:44] <jason__> ok lemme see if i can find a url for you
[09:44] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> i can look for it
[09:45] <EnsignRedshirt> lymph: Ah, too bad.  You could poke around the other options in AlsaMixer, but I don't know enough to give any advice. Good luck.
[09:45] <crov> Hi, how i can get this fixed : "Not Optimum Mod; Recommended More 1440x900 60Hz" With Ati Radeon X850 Pro
[09:45] <williammanda> question....will ubuntu 64 bit work ok with a core 2 duo system?
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> I have a choppy mouse because I removed noapic from kernel options
[09:45] <lymph> EnsignRedshirt: thanks!
[09:45] <pollywog_> and I have used Linux for some 8 yrs
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> the problem is that with noapic I don't have wireless
[09:45] <jrib> pollywog_: have you tried an older kernel?
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> what can I do?
[09:45] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:45] <pollywog_> I tried to boot to an older kernel, same thing
[09:45] <mwe> Clubbed: you could copy the file from a live CD. removing bash is a very bad thing (TM)
[09:45] <lordkeiden> is there a way to load a driver (wifi card) so i can connect to the internet, without a reboot after the triver is installed via ndiswrapper?
[09:45] <Clubbed> mwe, could i use cp Desktop/bash /bin?
[09:45] <pollywog_> the machine will boot to XP
[09:45] <NoWhereMan> without noapic usb does not work :(
[09:46] <mwe> Clubbed: no I think not when bash is missing
[09:46] <cefx_> This is my X.org conf file, I have a VIA S3 IGP for video, and a Sun Microsystems 24.1 widescreen LCD, I am only able to get 1024x768 which does not fit the monitor size --- http://rafb.net/p/tglkiN80.html
[09:46] <vox754> wiiiwhazilla: right now, only solution seems to use older kernel, use "mesa" drivers, reinstall linux-restricted-modules, or something like that
[09:46] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:46] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: ok well if you want it, this may be helpfull. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_Correct_the_Graphics_Resolution_.28Intel.29
[09:46] <tsmithe> anyone? : why do you think my multimedia keys would be recognised in XFCE and not in GNOME? /me detests gnome-settings-daemon. the keycodes aren't even recognised!
[09:46] <mwe> Clubbed: my best advice is fix it from a live CD
[09:46] <m00re> hi
[09:46] <Clubbed> ok, i'll try to do it from the livecd. would i just mount my hard drive, copy and paste bash into /bin and it should be back to normal?
[09:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Clubbed: Do you happen to have a terminal running?
[09:47] <pbureau> echosyp, got my msg ?
[09:47] <Clubbed> ensignredshirt, i don't think so
[09:47] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:47] <vox754> williammanda: yes but install 32-bit version, it is better.
[09:47] <mwe> Clubbed: then chown root.root and chmod 755 it
[09:47] <mwe> EnigmaCurry: not without bash ;)
[09:47] <pipegeek> *damn* it.  Just installed kpowersave, explicitly disabled the screensaver, then waited 5 minutes.  It's still happening.
[09:47] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> okay, i triedapt-get install 915 resolution
[09:47] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> and it couldn't fnid the package
[09:47] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: ^^
[09:47] <williammanda> ty
[09:47] <ashton> im new to linux and i just ordered ubuntu off the site and i was just wondering if they would send me a bunch of crap in the mail or if they will call me
[09:47] <pollywog_> apparetntly initramfs-tools is broken
[09:47] <pipegeek> Any clue what this could be?  I don't think it's coming from KDE; there's only ever one screen saver, and it's the X11 logo
[09:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Clubbed: Copying from a LiveCD *should* work, as long as it is the same version of Ubuntu as your system.
[09:47] <Mandrill> I can't figure the command out for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[09:47] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:48] <jrib> ashton: no, you jsut receieve the cd's you ordered
[09:48] <ashton> cool thanks man
[09:48] <pipegeek> anyone?
[09:48] <Clubbed> ensignredshirt, the kernel is different, but edgy, still
[09:48] <lordkeiden> is there a way to load a driver (wifi card) so i can connect to the internet, without a reboot after the triver is installed via ndiswrapper?
[09:48] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: It will work anyway. he should reinstall bash afterwards, though ;)
[09:48] <oggie> anyone ..pls help
[09:48] <Sanne> markedwards: found this: http://www.wlug.org.nz/kernel-img.conf(5)
[09:48] <Clubbed> mwe, could you write out the whole command, please? i'm not sure what to chmod 755. /bin/bash?
[09:48] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: do you have the extra repositories enabled? if not read.. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:49] <jrib> please stop begging for help, just ask your question.  If someone knows, they will try to help you
[09:49] <mwe> Clubbed: well no. on the live CD the file system is mounted elsewhere
[09:49] <oggie> okay sorry
[09:49] <oggie> how do u install the plugin for mozilla (flash)--gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:49] <mwe> Clubbed: /bin/bash will be bash on the live CD
[09:49] <jrib> oggie: is that gnash?
[09:49] <rrenaud> i've got a usb camera
[09:49] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> jason_: not as far as i know
[09:50] <rrenaud> i plug it in, get a nice gui for importing the pics off the camera
[09:50] <rrenaud> but the import doesn't work
[09:50] <rrenaud> i can't find out where the camera is being mounted though
[09:50] <DigitalNinja> I just did an update of Ubuntu Dapper server (not workstation). It said that "linux-server" was installing kernel version 2.6.15.26. However, I can't find this new kernel. Can someone tell me what's going on here?
[09:50] <nighter> hi ubuntu 6.10 dosent work with? dualcore processor with a sata raid controller?
[09:50] <pollywog_> I do not see any way to fix this initramfs problem other than a reinstall
[09:50] <mwe> Clubbed: just got an idea
[09:50] <Mandrill> I'd love to be able to do it through th GUI but the gui doesn't have root access :(
[09:50] <s0nix> Hi, im searching for someone who use KDevelop and has already cross-compiling a w32 project under unix
[09:50] <rrenaud> i want to try a simple cp /wherever/cam/mounted/* ~/
[09:50] <alexd> how do you install a wireless card?
[09:50] <pal32i> ndiswrapper
[09:50] <jason__> CrimsonNinjaGirl: Ok well follow that howto, if you dont have the extra repo's enabled, you will need them later anyway, not just for this.
[09:51] <jrib> oggie: is there a reason you don't want to install the flash provided by adobe?
[09:51] <mwe> Clubbed: you said you removed /bin/bash then ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash?
[09:51] <pal32i> i cant configure my wireless card to work
[09:51] <crov> Hi, how i can get this fixed : "Not Optimum Mod; Recommended More 1440x900 60Hz" With Ati Radeon X850 Pro
[09:51] <wiiiwhazilla> how can i debug my xserver crashing .. nvidia+new kernel :$
[09:51] <nighter> the ubuntu installation dosent work on my new computer, it boots up fine. But when you press the installation button it hangs.
[09:51] <jason__> oggie: flash 9 for linux is available now
[09:51] <nighter> someway to fix that?
[09:51] <Alarm> i have just isntalled swat, but when login in , in localhost:901 , i just see the samba logo and 4 icons: home, status,view password (in the home section i see just the documentation) , why is that ?
[09:51] <pbureau> alexd, depends on the chipset of the wifi card, type in a terminal window - lspci  - find the line for your wifi card and tell us what chipset it is
[09:51] <markedwards> Sanne: thanks, that helps.  this is definitely the problem.  can you send me your kernel-img.conf?
[09:51] <vox754> pal32i: hardware please...
[09:51] <Clubbed> mwe, yes
[09:52] <yommb> alarm : log in as root
[09:52] <oggie> jrib : GPLFlash
[09:52] <pal32i> broadcom bcm4813
[09:52] <pal32i> airforce one
[09:52] <Mandrill> I can't figure the commandin terminal for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[09:52] <Alarm> well i log in as root (and the sudo password i always use), but doesnt log in
[09:52] <yommb> alarm : mind you , if you log in over net this way its dangerous ...
[09:52] <echosyp> is there Flash for x64
[09:52] <Sanne> markedwards: I'll pastebin it, sec
[09:52] <yommb> if youre not usung https
[09:52] <mwe> Clubbed: hmm
[09:52] <pbureau> grins at vox754
[09:52] <oggie> jason, i did download the rpm file from Adobe site..i cant install the plugin
[09:52] <yommb> *using
[09:52] <mwe> Clubbed: I think you _need_ to boot a live CD to fix it
[09:53] <jason__> oggie: Download the tgz instead
[09:53] <echosyp> is there Flash for x64
[09:53] <pal32i> i have installed ndiswrapper
[09:53] <alexd> pbureau, it's  Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC
[09:53] <vox754> pbureau: all yours!
[09:53] <jrib> oggie: adobe's flash can be installed through your package manager
[09:53] <pal32i> network manager also
[09:53] <aanderse> does anyone know why dgen would cause a segmentation fault everytime i try to use it right away? (im using 64bit linux)
[09:53] <Sanne> markedwards: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5118/
[09:53] <oggie> i ran the TGZ it's errorring out
[09:53] <yommb> alarm : i know with swat if oi dont login as root you have  ( almost ) no config options ...
[09:53] <jrib> !flash | oggie
[09:53] <echosyp> alexd, do you have madwifi installed
[09:53] <ubotu> oggie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:53] <pbureau> vox754, lolol
[09:53] <jason__> oggie: Download the tgz, extract it, and run ./installflashplayer
[09:53] <mwe> Clubbed: somewhat tricky if your new to linux but way easier than reinstalling
[09:53] <oggie> !flash
[09:53] <Clubbed> mwe, i dont really even know where to go from there, so pardon my long problem. would i boot into live cd, and do sudo umount dev/sda1 (that's my hd) and then it should mount it, right?
[09:53] <yommb> !java
[09:53] <zero88> when building drivers, what files if the ieee80211 system does it use or look for?????
[09:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:53] <Alarm> i see...
[09:53] <pollywog_> cant access tty ; job control turned off is what it says and it leaves me at a initramfs shell
[09:53] <alexd> no, i can't ever get madwifi to install, i've tried twice
[09:54] <robdeman> hi folks.. when I format with Writing using mkfs.ext3 -L /home2 /dev/hdb1 ... then it says writing inode tables and it crashed when it does 103/496
[09:54] <yommb> !multiverse
[09:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:54] <kuw88> i have error the error is broken count > 0 what can  i do
[09:54] <kuw88> ?
[09:54] <robdeman> so it writes inodes 1..2 3. ...100.. 101..102 and then at 103 it crashes
[09:54] <alexd> echosyp, no, i can't ever get madwifi to install, i've tried twice
[09:54] <mwe> Clubbed: umount unmounts stuff ;)
[09:54] <kuw88>  i have error the error is broken count > 0 what can  i do
[09:54] <markedwards> Sanne: thanks alot, looking into it
[09:54] <Yodude> hey is there ANY way in ubuntu to login into the root account?
[09:54] <Clubbed> mwe, oops, mount /dev/sda1 then?
[09:54] <jason__> oggie: What is the error?
[09:54] <Psy> hey. I just tried installing ubuntu - It crashed half way through (stupid laptop) and now on boot it says unable to load OS, even when booting off cd
[09:54] <Psy> any ideas?
[09:54] <Yodude> i just need it for 1 minute sudo isn't gonna work for this
[09:55] <echosyp> mount /dev/sda1 /MountPointHere
[09:55] <vox754> pal32i: according to this guy pbureau, Broadcoam don't work quite right with ndiswrapper as there is a native driver. But you need to extract the firmware. More detail with pbureau
[09:55] <Sanne> markedwards: you're welcome, good luck (I'm going away now for dinner)
[09:55] <kuw88>  error is broken count > 0
[09:55] <pal32i> vox754 >> can i talk to u in chat
[09:55] <mwe> Clubbed: type mount to see if it's already mounted. if it doesn't show up sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt. then copy /bin/bash to /mnt/bin/ then chown root.root /mnt/bin/bash && chmod 755 /mnt/bin/bash
[09:55] <Mandrill> I can't figure the commandin terminal for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[09:55] <pbureau> vox754, pal32i has a Atheros card....not a bcm card
[09:55] <jahid> can anyone tell me, how can i install kate in ubuntu?
[09:55] <pbureau> vox754, opps I am geting confused.
[09:56] <funkja> are there other drivers besides fglrx for ATI on ubuntu? I have an Raedon X1600
[09:56] <echosyp> apt-get install kate?
[09:56] <pollywog_> sudo apt-get install kate
[09:56] <oggie>    o In terminal, navigate to the unpacked directory and enter:
[09:56] <oggie>           + $ ./flashplayer-installer
[09:56] <oggie>           + Click Enter key and follow prompts
[09:56] <pbureau> pal32i,  I have a tested method if you care to try works on many bcm cards but not tested it on a 4813.
[09:56] <mwe> Clubbed: if it's mounted elsewhere substitude disregard the mount command and substitute /mnt for the mount point in chown and chmod
[09:56] <pbureau> alexd, the AR5005G is a pain to install, I was unsuccefull in getting mine to work sorry mate
[09:56] <Yodude> how can i enter the hidden root account!!!!!!!!!!??
[09:57] <mwe> Clubbed: I meant to say: if it's mounted elsewhere disregard the mount command and substitute /mnt for the mount point in chown and chmod
[09:57] <yommb> I can't get  sun-java5-jre to install from the multiverse repo in Feisty ...Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:57] <yommb> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:57] <yommb> is only available from another source
[09:57] <yommb> E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[09:57] <pipegeek> Does anyone in this channel know how to get a list of the currently connected X11 clients?
[09:57] <pal32i> i have light which turns on when wireless card is working but its turned off for some reason?
[09:57] <Yodude> plz help me i'm in serious trouble here!
[09:57] <echosyp> Yodude, "sudo -i"
[09:57] <mwe> !paste yommb
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste yommb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <mwe> !paste | yommb
[09:57] <ubotu> yommb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:57] <Clubbed> mwe, ok thanks a lot. i'll try that :)
[09:57] <alexd> pbureau, thanks anyway
[09:57] <cefx_> sigh
[09:57] <pipegeek> I would really appreciate the help.
[09:57] <mwe> Clubbed: can you remember it ? ;)
[09:57] <shatrat> pal32i, I got the broadcom 4318 on my brothers laptop going using the broadcom how-to posted on ubuntuforums.org
[09:57] <EnsignRedshirt> mwe: He's already gone...
[09:57] <jason__> Youdude, ubuntu uses sudo for everything by default, but if you need the root account itself, just run sudo passwd root to make a root password
[09:57] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: yeah
[09:57] <Mandrill> I've tried looking at various guides and the man pages for chmod but I can't make head nor tail of them, unix commands are a bit convoluted for and old dos hand like me
[09:58] <Yodude> echosyp: no i need to open a file in root
[09:58] <Nontitle> chroot?
[09:58] <pal32i> my wireless card's light is not turning ON for some reason
[09:58] <Hoosteen> ok..i've got a file on my desktop that i can't delete via gui because it needs root access...how do you delete a file in terminal so i can use sudo?
[09:58] <yommb> ubotu : don't flood please :p
[09:58] <Mumbles> has anyone got any experiance with gnump3d?
[09:58] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[09:58] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: I hope he got it right so he doesn't make things worse ;)
[09:59] <vox754> Yodude: you can't enter the root account, it is for experts!
[09:59] <jason__> Mumbles: I'v installed it a few times
[09:59] <EnsignRedshirt> Hoosteen: Open a terminal, and enter: sudo rm Desktop/filename
[09:59] <pbureau> lol vox754  system-admin-user account, change password, instant access to root account
[09:59] <Mumbles> one sec i just need to get the error again
[09:59] <Mumbles> im gettign a perl problem
[09:59] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[09:59] <Psy> hey. I just tried installing ubuntu - It crashed half way through (stupid laptop) and now on boot it says unable to load OS, even when booting off cd. Any ideas anyone?
[09:59] <mwe> vox754: sudo -i will enter the root account
[09:59] <Yodude> but i need this just for 1 file
[09:59] <Hoosteen> EsignRedshirt:thanks a ton...i was trying all kinds of commands...lol
[10:00] <echosyp> so
[10:00] <Nontitle> i know this doesn't have to do with ubuntu, but google isn't being my friend... does anyone know where i can find a tutorial or otherwise for using libsmbclient-dev?
[10:00] <Yodude> it's a driver installation and my connection is too slow to download it from the repoitory
[10:00] <echosyp> what file
[10:00] <mwe> pbureau: undermines the idea of using sudo, though ;)
[10:00] <Yodude> nvidia driver
[10:00] <echosyp> a .deb
[10:00] <pbureau> mwe, we had this conversation before I recall :)_
[10:00] <Yodude> it always tells me it needs root access!
[10:00] <mwe> pbureau: maybe so
[10:00] <echosyp> cause you aren't root
[10:00] <echosyp> use "sudo" before the command
[10:00] <cefx_> And no help...whatsoever.
[10:00] <cefx_> great.
[10:01] <Yodude> this ios esential if i don't have a GPU driver i can't use ubuntu!
[10:01] <Veenified> Hey pbureau
[10:01] <jexdawg> has anyone else had major problems trying to install ATI drivers with Envy?
[10:01] <pbureau> Veenified, hey bud
[10:01] <vox754> Yodude: you don't need a root account, for the tenth time, use "sudo"!
[10:01] <mwe> Yodude: type sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need it
[10:01] <echosyp> Yodude, wtf are you trying to do
[10:01] <Mandrill> I can't figure the commandin terminal for chmodding a drive so that its universally readable, writable, executable to everyone. can anyone help?
[10:01] <Mumbles> jason__,  /usr/share/example-content/example-content is a recursive symbolic link at /usr/share/perl/5.8/File/Find.pm line 551.
[10:01] <Mumbles> 
[10:01] <Nontitle> use sudo su -
[10:01] <nalioth> Nontitle: please don't do that
[10:01] <Yodude> please tell me how i just want to get in there, open the file install the thing n get out
[10:01] <echosyp> gd it
[10:01] <echosyp> i told you
[10:01] <Bu-Omar> hello.. is there a command to show which run-level I am on now ?
[10:01] <echosyp> sudo
[10:01] <echosyp> ^
[10:01] <mwe> Nontitle: sudo -i is the recommended way though sudo su - should work too ;)
[10:02] <Nontitle> ok
[10:02] <nalioth> Nontitle: sudo -i or sudo -s is much preferable over 'sudo su' (sudo su is redundant and can break things)
[10:02] <Yodude> but when i open the file and i lcik run in terminal i don't haver the opportunity to add "sudo"!!!!!!!!!
[10:02] <nalioth> mwe: ^^
[10:02] <jason__> Mumbles: When are you getting this message, just trying to apt-get install ?
[10:02] <echosyp> heh
[10:02] <Mumbles> yeh
[10:02] <oggie> i got no plugins
[10:02] <yommb> mandrill : it would be something like :  chmod 777 /dev/yourdrive  or chmod 644 /home/youruser/yourfolder   ...
[10:02] <Mumbles> and i get it when i bulid from soruce as well jason__
[10:02] <oggie> jason..
[10:02] <pollywog_> so nobody knows how I can boot my system ?  I have Edgy installed but it no longer boots all the way
[10:02] <mwe> nalioth: I wonder how sudo su - will break things
[10:02] <Yodude> plz it will just be a minute man i don't want to use it for good, just for that dam file
[10:02] <echosyp> Yodude, open a terminal first, go to the directory where the file is, then type "sudo" before the command
[10:02] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[10:02] <yommb> mandrill : where 777 would be all permissions for all users (rwx )
[10:03] <pollywog_> I thought edgy was stable
[10:03] <Yodude> it won't install!
[10:03] <echosyp> why
[10:03] <mwe> nalioth: not that I recommend using it
[10:03] <oggie> jason..i just click on the flash installer..and prompted me with the run in terminal..i clicked on it ..and there are no prompts
[10:03] <nalioth> yommb: Mandrill chmodding your WHOLE homedir is not recommended as there are things in there with differnt permissions that wont work if they are 644d
[10:03] <Mandrill> yommb: ty, so its the actual drive address and not the mount point
[10:03] <alexd> can anyone talk me through installing madwifi?
[10:03] <jason__> Mumbles: Hm Im not sure about that, I'd suggest removing, perging, and just flat out removing any mp3d files you can find, and then reinstalling clean
[10:03] <echosyp> alexd, hold up
[10:03] <iGama> whats the other ubuntu channel for talking about anything?
[10:03] <Mumbles> jason__,  yeh done that
[10:03] <nalioth> iGama: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <alexd> echosyp, k
[10:03] <iGama> thanks :)
[10:03] <iGama> nalioth, thanks
[10:03] <jason__> oggie: I will see your mesages better if you type jason__:
[10:03] <yommb> mandrill : check out what exactly the numbers mean , and how to correctly apply them .. this has to be done with caution !
[10:03] <Mandrill> yommb: don't worry its not my home dir. its a second drive that I've just formatted to ext3
[10:03] <I-kido> ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <jexdawg> how do i find the exact version of my gfx card in ubuntu?
[10:04] <echosyp> alexd, my DNS is down so i can't go to websites, but i'll see if i can help
[10:04] <alexd> echosyp, thanks
[10:04] <vox754> Yodude: somebody has already done the nvidia installation, don't despair. You can run what you want form the terminal, say "sudo ./install"
[10:04] <nette> hey, does anyone know of a program where you can use your keyboard as a piano?
[10:04] <I-kido> x_link wake UP!
[10:04] <Yodude>   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[10:04] <Yodude>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[10:04] <Yodude>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[10:04] <Yodude>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[10:04] <kuw88> how can i make fix for the ubuntu?
[10:04] <pollywog_> how does one use a rescue disk to boot a system that will not boot?
[10:05] <oggie> jason..i just click on the flash installer..and prompted me with the run in terminal..i clicked on it ..and there are no prompts
[10:05] <jason__> oggie: dont just click on it, Open a terminal and cd to the folder where you extracted it, and then type ./installflashplayer
[10:05] <Yodude> oh sorry plz give me a link to the pastebin
[10:05] <mwe> Yodude: don't paste in here
[10:05] <yommb> Mandrill: if you do a google on libux permissions the first few pages that popup are very useful & clearly laid out !
[10:05] <yommb> *linux
[10:05] <mwe> !paste | Yodude
[10:05] <ubotu> Yodude: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:05] <echosyp> Yodude, you have to close X first
[10:05] <Mandrill> yommb: I've dabbled a little in website admin so I know roughly what the numbers mean its just that the chmod command does things a little differently on a command line when theres no nice gui to guide you through it.
[10:05] <oggie> jason__copy that
[10:05] <jason__> oggie: you may have to type sudo ./installflashplayer though
[10:05] <Yodude> how can i close X?
[10:05] <oggie> jason__: thank you
[10:05] <echosyp> are you using gnome?
[10:05] <Funtwo> hello i'm having a problem installing packages with Add/Remove in Edgy 6.10. I'm getting errors saying <package> cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). I'm running a machine with a i686 how do i go about changing this so i can install programs using Synaptic? Thank you
[10:05] <ooszy> anyone else got their network settings totally wiped out after the most recent kernel update? netstat -r is showing me no routing tables, no local ip through ifconfig on eth0. If i disable dhcp and set the ip manually it lets me get to my router but no internet. Any ideas?
[10:06] <echosyp> alexd, did you get my pm?
[10:06] <nkbreau> does anyone know how to fix the folllowing apt-get install error - http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=6100
[10:06] <Yodude> so? how?
[10:06] <nalioth> Yodude: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:06] <nette> hey, does anyone know of a program where you can use your keyboard as a piano?
[10:06] <echosyp> haha
[10:06] <pollywog_> the thing is that if I reinstall I will have the same problem since I don't know which package screwed things up
[10:06] <nalioth> !tell nette about repeat
[10:06] <yommb> mandrill : http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml
[10:06] <echosyp> haha
[10:06] <alexd> echosyp: i sent a mesage back
[10:06] <Mandrill> yommb: ty
[10:06] <vox754> pbureau, mwe  somebody please help Yodude to install nvidia drivers before he kills his system.
[10:06] <echosyp> i didn't get it
[10:06] <nalioth> alexd: you need to be identifed to services to send private messages
[10:07] <jahid> i have installed kate, but its not on the menu. should it be on any menu?
[10:07] <echosyp> alexd, are you registered
[10:07] <pbureau> nette, try http://www.freshmeat.net /
[10:07] <MuffY> where are the kernel headers in Edgy?
[10:07] <Morrowyn> nkbreau,  try line 24 on your paste perhaps
[10:07] <echosyp> alexd /msg nickserv register
[10:07] <nette> pbureau, ok thanks
[10:07] <nalioth> jahid: it should be there somewhere, kde puts things in a different spot on the gnome menu
[10:07] <Flannel> !headers | MuffY
[10:07] <ubotu> MuffY: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:07] <pbureau> vox754, nope I know nothing of nvidia.. I refuse to install those cards in my syste, because they are always having driver issues
[10:07] <jahid> nalioth, i looked on all the menus, but didnt get.
[10:08] <oggie> jason__: sudo ./installflashplayer : command not found ..i got this error
[10:08] <mwe> nalioth: not to be annoying, but can you tell me how sudo su - would break things (I've used it for years with old versions of sudo that doesn't support the -i and -s switches)
[10:08] <MuffY> Flannel: i don't want to install them, some application seends them to install USB support
[10:08] <nalioth> jahid: perhaps you should restart your gnome-panel
[10:08] <nkbreau> wow, how would have though that would actually work. thanks Morrowyn
[10:08] <vox754> pbureau: well, he left. I'm gone too, gotta eat.
[10:08] <pbureau> bye vox...
[10:08] <Flannel> MuffY: /usr/src
[10:08] <Morrowyn> np
[10:08] <jahid> nalioth, ok
[10:08] <nalioth> mwe: Ubuntu has always supported sudo -i and sudo -s   "sudo su" is the snake eating itself
[10:08] <Mumbles> damm still no luck
[10:09] <nalioth> mwe: what we personally do is our business, helping in Ubuntu should be Ubuntu-centric
[10:09] <EnsignRedshirt> jexdawg: You could try System -> Administration -> Device Manager, and then scroll down through the list of device to find your graphics card.
[10:09] <jason__> oggie: Are you in the directory where flashplayer was extracted?  for example lets say you extracted it to your desktop and the folder is called "flashplayer"  you would want to type. cd /home/username/Desktop/flashplayer
[10:09] <jexdawg> thanks ensign
[10:09] <MuffY> Flannel: ok, the makefile of the program that needs them has a default for /lib/modules , that's normal in other distros?
[10:09] <alexd> how do you identify yourself if your already registered?
[10:09] <mwe> nalioth: that's why I recommended sudo -i ;) I use it myself as well. I was just curious
[10:09] <alexd> ehosyp: how do you identify yourself if your already registered?
[10:09] <alexd> echosyp: how do you identify yourself if your already registered?
[10:10] <oggie> jason__: im in there...here's what i got
[10:10] <oggie> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[10:10] <oggie>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[10:10] <daviddixon> Is anyone familiar with installing MATlab
[10:10] <ooszy> anyone else got their network settings totally wiped out after the most recent kernel update? netstat -r is showing me no routing tables, no local ip through ifconfig on eth0. If i disable dhcp and set the ip manually it lets me get to my router but no internet. Any ideas?
[10:10] <nalioth> alexd: /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
[10:10] <_enigma_> hi all
[10:10] <nalioth> oggie: what hardware do you have?
[10:10] <mwe> nalioth: I'll stop bothering you now, though ;)
[10:10] <jexdawg> ensign, that worked beautifully. thank you.
[10:10] <nalioth> mwe: please don't  :)
[10:10] <oggie> jason__:amd 64
[10:10] <EnsignRedshirt> jexdawg: No problem.
[10:10] <nalioth> oggie: you are out of luck with flash  :(
[10:11] <oggie> jason__: sorry to hear that..is there none i can do?
[10:11] <nalioth> oggie: it only works on x86 (you CAN run it on amd64 with some hoops to jump through)
[10:11] <alexd> echosyp: i'm going to log off for a sec, i pm you when i get regstered
[10:11] <nalioth> alexd: you don't need to log off
[10:11] <nalioth> !tell oggie about flash
[10:11] <nette> can you run Mac-files on ubuntu?
[10:11] <ksngay> hi!
[10:11] <EnsignRedshirt> daviddixon: There are a couple of threads in the forum (ubuntuforums.org) about installing matlab (if you don't get an answer here).
[10:11] <echosyp> k
[10:11] <oggie> nalioth: can u tell about the hoops
[10:11] <alexd> nalioth: the name i want to register with is already registered
[10:11] <ksngay> i got a error on installing steam via wine
[10:11] <nalioth> nette: not really
[10:11] <pbureau> nette, if your running ubuntu on a mac.. :)
[10:11] <nalioth> oggie: check your private messages from ubotu
[10:11] <jrib> daviddixon: wiki.ubuntu.com has a guide as well
[10:11] <ksngay> anyone can help me?
[10:12] <jason__> oggie: Ok then your running on 64bit, you have 3 options. #1 Fire off an angry letter to adobe saying that your another one of the many many people who are getting sick of waiting on them to support 64Bit, option#2 Install a 32bit version of ubuntu instead of the 64bit, Option #3 Find a tutorial on running your browser and flash in a 32bit chrooted environment
[10:12] <cantsee> hi all, i can't seem to find how to fix this issue online, i've even looked at the fixvideoresolutionhowto and it doesn't resolve it; when i install ubuntu and reboot, i can't see the gdm, all i see is a lot of vertical lines
[10:12] <nette> nalioth, hm okai...
[10:12] <daviddixon> thanks
[10:12] <Hoosteen> ok..i've got a directory on my desktop that i want to delete but it needs root access, if i do it via terminal, how can i delete all the files and subfolders?
[10:12] <Tux> !help
[10:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:12] <Mandrill> Yommb: basically I'm the only person who's going to be accessing the drive but I'll be doing it from another computer. I want to be able to write files to the drive read the drive's contents and run any program executables on the drive on the other machine. (the fact that the machine I'll be doing this from is a windows machine is a whole other problem for another time)
[10:12] <Yodude> can you tell me how to stop X again?
[10:12] <jexdawg> cantsee - do you have all the latest drivrs?
[10:12] <jrib> Hoosteen: rm -r
[10:12] <Yodude> i had to reset i forgot the filename
[10:12] <mwe> Hoosteen: sudo rm -rf /path/to/dir. be careful though!
[10:12] <Tux> does anyone here know how to use xmacro version 0.3?
[10:12] <oggie> jason__: thank you jason..btw..can you run MS window application while on ubuntu?>
[10:12] <pbureau> Hoosteen,  sudo rm -r <directory>
[10:12] <alexd> nalioth: it was alexd
[10:12] <cantsee> i'm not sure i did an apt-get update
[10:13] <mwe> Hoosteen: a typo can hose the system
[10:13] <Tux> !xmacro
[10:13] <ubotu> xmacro: Record / Play keystrokes and mouse movements in X displays. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3pre-20000911-4 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[10:13] <cantsee> i have nvidia
[10:13] <ksngay> anyone can help me? i got a error with wine plz? http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png
[10:13] <mindstate> Yodude: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:13] <oggie> jason__: can you run ms IE while in ubuntu?
[10:13] <jason__> oggie: Check out winehq.com
[10:13] <jexdawg> i have ati and am unfamiliar with that problem. sorry
[10:13] <kitche> Yodude: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:13] <Hoosteen> hehe..thanks guys!
[10:13] <ksngay> kitche:
[10:13] <ksngay> http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png
[10:14] <Tux> does anyone here know how to use xmacro version 0.3? I am used to the former version where you can "xmacroplay :0 <"
[10:14] <larson9999> oggie: i think you still need to run ie4linux
[10:14] <ksngay> can u help me? :(
[10:14] <mindstate> kitche: hehe didnt realize he said stop
[10:14] <Hoosteen> still learning here....glad you all are patient with my questions...lol
[10:14] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> thanks all, found a friend to personally help me =)
[10:14] <CrimsonNinjaGirl> bye
[10:14] <cantsee> thanks
[10:14] <ooszy> can someone remind me if there is a way to force the routing tables to reconfigure? It seems like the latest kernel upgrade erased everything :(
[10:14] <kitche> ksnday: did you configure wine correctly?
[10:14] <larson9999> oggie: but maybe not.  keep that in mind if you can't install it via 'normal' wine
[10:14] <Yodude> after i close it can i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to start the X window system again?
[10:15] <cantsee> it's weird that i can't get it to work after installation but booting from the cd works great
[10:15] <mwe> ooszy: you're not the first to complain about network problems after a kernel upgrade today
[10:15] <Tux> anyone?
[10:15] <kitche> Yodude: start instead of restart
[10:15] <jason__> iv'e never installed IE, so i dont know, but that sounds like the norm
[10:15] <Yodude> k
[10:15] <canine_kouji> meh
[10:15] <oggie> larson9999: thanks man
[10:15] <ooszy> mwe: no solutions yet i'm guessing?
[10:15] <canine_kouji> the wiki for  playing back dvds just neds to say... sudo apt-get install vlc. heh
[10:15] <Tux> does anyone here know how to use xmacro version 0.3? I am used to the former version where you can "xmacroplay :0 <".
[10:16] <jexdawg> not specifically ubuntu related, but does anyone know how to remove the HUGE buddy icons on your buddy list for gaim (aim)?
[10:16] <crimsun> canine_kouji: only for i386.
[10:16] <larson9999> oggie: not that i'm advocating running ie
[10:16] <mwe> ooszy: I'm running a custom kernel so I'm not really into the issue. using the old kernel until it's fixed should always work, though
[10:16] <canine_kouji> crimsun: oh?
[10:16] <jacquesdupontd> salut
[10:16] <pbureau> canine_kouji,  but you need libdvdcss toplay them.... in any application :)
[10:16] <mr_cha0s> can anyone tell me what config file has like, global path information?
[10:16] <canine_kouji> pbureau: yes I know
[10:16] <jrib> mr_cha0s: /etc/environment
[10:16] <oggie> larson9999: i understand
[10:16] <crimsun> canine_kouji: yeah, vlc+libdvdcss2 on amd64 seem quite unstable
[10:16] <ooszy> mwe: I tried that -11 -10 , neither work
[10:16] <canine_kouji> but the page says gstreamer dvd plugin not ported to Edgy yet
[10:16] <Mr680x0> uh
[10:16] <Tux> Does anyone here use XMacro 0.3?
[10:16] <Mr680x0> I'm having a problem again
[10:17] <mwe> ooszy: oh. maybe something else is wrong
[10:17] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I've been using vlc +libdvdcss2 on intel core2 duo for the past month. I've had NO problems
[10:17] <Mr680x0> in the OEM setup I put my username in as John, and I can't login
[10:17] <mr_cha0s> jexdawg: tools->preeferences->buddy list->show buddy icons
[10:17] <mwe> ooszy: -10 used to work?
[10:17] <EnsignRedshirt> jexdawg: :)  The '00's of this century will go down in history as the decade of big, cartoonish, plastic-looking icons.
[10:17] <Clubbed> mwe! I got it to work again :D:D:D:D thank you so much. i thought id never see linux again
[10:17] <ooszy> could be, but it is due to the upgrade from today.
[10:17] <ooszy> yah
[10:17] <cheatersrealm> anyone have a working logitech mx5000 bluetooth set?
[10:17] <mwe> Clubbed: heh. now reinstall bash
[10:17] <Mr680x0> does it have something to do with the capital J?
[10:17] <ooszy> as soon as i rebooted after the update, no network.
[10:17] <mr_cha0s> thanks jrib, lemme check that out
[10:17] <canine_kouji> crimsun: though, I've been using genpoo, because I require the latest kernel and other code, since the ubuntu release is too old
[10:17] <kitche> Mr680x0: yeah you need to enter John exactly
[10:17] <mwe> Clubbed: to make sure the right binary is in place
[10:18] <ooszy> the card seems to be there still, but netstat -r shows nothing
[10:18] <Clubbed> mwe, yup, did that already before i actually booted
[10:18] <mwe> Clubbed: congrats ;)
[10:18] <Tux> Does anyone here use XMacro 0.3?
[10:18] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I'm hoping the next linux kernel release will be bundled with ubuntu's next release
[10:18] <ooszy> If I hardcore the ip (it's usually dhcp) I can get to my gateway but can't go beyond that
[10:18] <jexdawg> ensign - in the version packaged with ubuntu, Buddy List isn't under tools.... not to worry though, its under Buddies (show buddy details) so i've got it under control. ty though (again)
[10:18] <kitche> Tux: if none anwsers you then probably not
[10:18] <nalioth> !tell Tux about repeat
[10:18] <crimsun> canine_kouji: yes, we will ship feisty with 2.6.20
[10:18] <Mr680x0> kitche: I entered it exactly
[10:18] <canine_kouji> crimsun: well .20 is okay
[10:18] <Mr680x0> I still can't login
[10:18] <canine_kouji> crimsun: that is what my genpoo box runs
[10:19] <canine_kouji> crimsun: the *next* kernel release will specifically support core2 and the other new procs very well
[10:19] <Funtwo> hello how can i get Synaptic to detect my i686 kernel instead of i386?
[10:19] <crimsun> canine_kouji: we will not ship 2.6.21.
[10:19] <pbureau> Funtwo, recompile it
[10:19] <ksngay> http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png PPLZZ ANYONE HELP ME
[10:19] <ksngay> :(
[10:19] <ksngay> http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cz0.png
[10:19] <canine_kouji> crimsun: Is there a countdown time for it?
[10:19] <ksngay> i got a error installing steam on wine
[10:19] <Funtwo> :) thanks
[10:19] <canine_kouji> crimsun: how sad.
[10:19] <jexdawg> thanks for all the help guys. peace.
[10:19] <crimsun> canine_kouji: it was decided in november that feisty would ship with 2.6.20.
[10:20] <cheatersrealm> haha stema is broken
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I'd probably at least include it in package form, since core2 is very popular now
[10:20] <crimsun> canine_kouji: how would it be included in package form?
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: well, who ever made that decision needs to get out more
[10:20] <echosyp> .deb
[10:20] <ksngay> cheatersrealm: what?
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: so people could apt-get it if they wanted to
[10:20] <cheatersrealm> ksngay: I never got steam to work.. mostly because I dual boot and didn't care
[10:20] <canine_kouji> crimsun: people running the latest hardware
[10:21] <crimsun> canine_kouji: our kernel lead is well respected. He's credited with the firewire subsystem, for instance.
[10:21] <EnsignRedshirt> ksngay: That link popped up windows in my browser, which is rude, so I never got to your screenshot.
[10:21] <crimsun> canine_kouji: it may be possible to backport patches for better support, but you'll need to chip in.
[10:21] <Yodude> hey after i closed X i got into a black screen
[10:21] <ooszy> kern.log shows: eth0 No IPv6 routers present ..
[10:21] <ooszy> i would agree with that lol
[10:21] <Yodude> i tried to enter commands but they didn't seem to work
[10:22] <canine_kouji> crimsun: yes well, then he just gave them fuel for the windows trolls since ubuntu's next release will not be as fast like the core2 advertises
[10:22] <nalioth> Yodude: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[10:22] <mr_cha0s> thanks for the help guys, this chatroom is owning my 56k, peace... :P
[10:22] <crimsun> canine_kouji: you can't ship the latest code always; that's a simple tradeoff in a time-based release schedule.
 people still using phone line for the internet ? wow
[10:22] <canine_kouji> crimsun: I can only hope they're release a version 4 months after, heh
[10:23] <crimsun> canine_kouji: 6.
[10:23] <Meodudlye> teclo: ?
[10:23] <nalioth> I-kido: hosts file is better, imo
[10:23] <teclo> Good evening. Say, when the fuck are you folks gonna fix the bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[10:23] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[10:23] <canine_kouji> lmao
[10:23] <pbureau> crimsun, I prefer to see a stable release with a 1-2 versions behind than get bloody-edge kernel that needs 5-6 patche sthe week it is out
[10:23] <canine_kouji> "send patches or stfu" :)
[10:23] <I-kido> nalioth, i block some pics, not complete sites :)
[10:24] <crimsun> pbureau: that's obviously what we're going for :)
[10:24] <nalioth> I-kido: to each their own
[10:24] <Mr680x0> is there any way I can find/reset my username/password?
[10:24] <pbureau> crimsun, inetrestingly alot of people dont understand that, guess they are so used to having windows + patches on daily basis...lol
[10:24] <Sonderblade> when will ubuntu upgrade to python 2.5?
[10:24] <canine_kouji> hehe
[10:24] <crimsun> Sonderblade: it has been the default in feisty for some time.
[10:24] <mwe> Mr680x0: find it? ;)
[10:24] <I-kido> nalioth, normally host file is better i know :)
[10:25] <mwe> Mr680x0: can't you log in?
[10:25] <Sonderblade> crimsun: but in edgy
[10:25] <oggie> anyone..when you add application and then you already download the packages..how do you install them?
[10:25] <kitche> Sonderblade: next release probably
[10:25] <Mr680x0> mwe: No, I can't
[10:25] <mwe> Mr680x0: boot a live cd and examine the passwd file
[10:25] <jason__> telco: Im on it, ill be fixing the bugs, right after I finish my "Primer Plus Fith Edition for C" book, and learn Python, C++, and all the other languages that are used in the thousands of packages that make up the distro. And then learn to clone myself so that I can work on many different things at once.
[10:25] <canine_kouji> Sonderblade: if you're wanting to develop on ubuntu, I recommend doing what I do... Have a separate development directory with custom built software
[10:25] <crimsun> Sonderblade: no, we do not touch frozen, stable releases. Kinda defeats the purpose of "frozen", not to mention it's technically not feasible.
[10:25] <Mr680x0> uh, I can't use live CDs
[10:25] <EnsignRedshirt> Sonderblade: edgy won't upgrade to 2.5.
[10:25] <mwe> Mr680x0: how did you install?
[10:25] <Mr680x0> they don't work with my video card, mwe
[10:25] <Mr680x0> I used an Alternate install CD
[10:25] <rhenus> was ist denn ubuntu 6.12 pro?
[10:25] <Mr680x0> and set the display after installing
[10:25] <mapedan> oggie, what do you mean? You've downloaded the package and you don't know how to install it?
[10:26] <mwe> Mr680x0: so boot that one and do it
[10:26] <Mr680x0> uh, k
[10:26] <echosyp> alexd, im out, got shit to do
[10:26] <mwe> Mr680x0: you can alt-f2 to get a prompt IIRC
[10:26] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone here using Cenega with fglrx?
[10:26] <echosyp> hopefully that'll work for you
[10:26] <oggie> mapedan: yes..i downloaded them..are they already or auto-installed then?
[10:26] <alexd> echosyp: thanks for the help
[10:26] <kitche> Fanskapet: do you mean cedega?
[10:26] <Sonderblade> crimsun: fair enough, but i hope they will continue to bugfix 2.4
[10:27] <mapedan> if you've downloaded them from the internet (with firefox) you have to install them
[10:27] <Fanskapet> kitche: hehe yes :P
[10:27] <mapedan> dpkg -i <package name>
[10:27] <Mr680x0> mwe: I have the prompt up, how do I get to the passwd file?
[10:27] <ooszy> mwe: All of the sudden (after 15 mins down) the network seems to be back up, the routing tables are set again. odd!
[10:27] <kitche> Fanskapet: did you look at transgraming.org for your problem?
[10:27] <oggie> mapedan: i got it now..i got the prompt they are already installed
[10:27] <crimsun> Sonderblade: only if it merits an SRU.
[10:27] <Fanskapet> kitche: yep
[10:27] <oggie> mapedan: i but not to all packages i downloaded
[10:27] <Fanskapet> don't find any info how to solve this problem.
[10:27] <mwe> Mr680x0: well first you need to mount the file system
[10:28] <mwe> Mr680x0: do you know the partition name?
[10:28] <mapedan> oggie, I'm glad!
[10:28] <Mr680x0> uh, how do I do that?
[10:28] <Fanskapet> wine works correctly so i dunno why Cedega won't do the trick
[10:28] <mwe> Mr680x0: do you know the partition name?
[10:28] <Mr680x0> no... :/
[10:28] <oggie> mapedan : because some were not added in the application menu
[10:28] <Sonderblade> crimsun: i dont know whta that is
[10:28] <Mr680x0> how would I find the partition name, mwe?
[10:29] <mwe> Mr680x0: hmm. you need to figure it. is it IDE and primary or secondary controller?
[10:29] <crimsun> Sonderblade: wiki/StableReleaseUpdates
[10:29] <Hoosteen> how do i find out what version of GTK i'm running?
[10:29] <Mr680x0> it's a built in laptop HD
[10:29] <Mr680x0> so IDE
[10:29] <Mr680x0> and primary
[10:29] <codi> Anyone know why X won't start after a reboot now?
[10:29] <Clubbed> New problem: I somehow deleted my user profile from User Settings. I just changed my userid from 1000 to 1 and it disappeared, how can i safely restore him without losing my desktop preferences?
[10:29] <pbureau> hoosten most programs have a --help to find out how to query for the version
[10:30] <Mr680x0> mwe: it's primary and IDE
[10:30] <ompaul> codi, log in and type startx if that does not start it then you have broken your X so get back to some kind of working one issue this command, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <pbureau> Hoosteen,  but if your lazy like I am load synaptic search for gtk and look at the version number
[10:30] <Konoko> Hello. Is there a channel on freenode for general linux releated help?
[10:30] <mwe> Mr680x0: then it's /dev/hdaX X being a number between 1 and 8. do you have windows on the disk?
[10:30] <codi> how would i have broken it
[10:30] <Mr680x0> no Windows
[10:31] <jrib> Konoko: #linux
[10:31] <mwe> Mr680x0: so just linux?
[10:31] <Konoko> thanks
[10:31] <Mr680x0> mew: yes
[10:31] <Mr680x0> *mwe: yes
[10:31] <mwe> Mr680x0: it's probably /dev/hda1 then
[10:31] <ompaul> codi, I don't know you asked why it won't start after a reboot, reasonable on my part to assume it started before
[10:31] <Mr680x0> ok
[10:31] <Hoosteen> pbureau: hehe..that's what i was starting to do :)
[10:31] <Mr680x0> so what do I do?
[10:31] <mwe> Mr680x0: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt. try it
[10:31] <oggie> any torrent sites where i can download music or video files?
[10:31] <ktulu-> hi. is there a way to end sudo mode before it expires?
[10:31] <britt_> hey people, how do i remove programs that automatically start up in the console?
[10:31] <codi> it did, i did nothing but reboot like it asked me to
[10:32] <britt_> it's definately not in ,bashrc
[10:32] <codi> my guess is updates
[10:32] <Mr680x0> mwe: it says Permission Denied
[10:32] <Music_Shuffle> Mr680x0, use sudo?
[10:32] <ompaul> codi, did you try to do binary drivers at some stage?
[10:32] <mwe> Mr680x0: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[10:32] <TuTUx> oggie, torrentspy.com, dont ask this kind of question here, it's not for this.
[10:32] <codi> i've done nothing more than install and update
[10:32] <codi> i don't even know what binary drivers are
[10:33] <mysta> hello, can i make my second ALT key perform just as the first ALT key?
[10:33] <ompaul> codi, that is updates within a version? not trying to move from version to version? (which)
[10:33] <oggie> TuTUx tnx
[10:33] <codi> within a version i guess, the auto updates from ubuntu
[10:34] <ompaul> codi, log in and do this: sudo dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg
[10:34] <Mr680x0> mwe: it's mounted, what do I do now?
[10:34] <ktulu-> anyone know how to exit out of sudo mode?
[10:34] <ompaul> codi, log in and do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    (typo)
[10:34] <mwe> Mr680x0: nano /mnt/etc/passwd and look for your user name
[10:35] <lufis> ktulu-: just close the terminal
[10:35] <vox754> All you with NVidia cards, don't update to latest Kernel, 2.6.17-11
[10:35] <ompaul> ktulu-, it stops after 15 minutes
[10:35] <Music_Shuffle> ktulu-, wait? Close the terminal?
[10:35] <pbureau> ktulu-,  just type exit
[10:35] <e\ectro_> how do I get verbose output for kubuntu on startup?
[10:35] <Mr680x0> mwe: Permission Denied
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: hus
[10:35] <lufis> e
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: sudo nano /mnt/etc/passwd
[10:35] <codi> i did, and went through some config screens, selected default for everything and it still doesn't work
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: don't change the file, though
[10:35] <lufis> e\ectro_: remove "quit" from your grub boot option, maybe?
[10:35] <ktulu-> thanks
[10:35] <shatrat> e\ectro_, you can edit the boot options and remove "splash" and "quiet", that should do it
[10:35] <jexdawg> i want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list (for beryl installation purposes) but i can't because its root access only. i can open it in gedit but cannot save it... my other option of course is sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal, but i'm not familiar with how to edit it and then save what i edited. any help?
[10:35] <mwe> Mr680x0: just look for your user name
[10:36] <lufis> e\ectro_: quiet*
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> jexdawg, when you open it in gedit, just append the sudo to the front of that
[10:36] <mwe> jexdawg: gksudo gedit. back it up first though
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> jexdawg, Works just like opening in nano with sudo.
[10:36] <shatrat> jexdawg, you edit in nano pretty normally and use ctrl o to save, ctrl x to exit.
[10:36] <mwe> Music_Shuffle: no. don't sudo gui-app
[10:36] <mwe> !gksudo
[10:36] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[10:36] <shatrat> jexdawg, I recommend learning nano if you are gonna use beryl, it helps when you try to recover your system after having hosed it.
[10:36] <jexdawg> you guys are speaking to me like i know what i'm talking about... haha. thanks though, i'll try shatrats method
[10:36] <lufis> what's wrong with using sudo and gui?
[10:36] <la> adfsdf
[10:37] <Mr680x0> mwe: I don't see my user name
[10:37] <mwe> lufis: it can hose permission of stuff
[10:37] <Music_Shuffle> Or you'll get a crash course in it later anyways. :P
[10:37] <vox754> jexdawg: in "nano" the circumflex mean the <Control-key>
[10:37] <lufis> mwe: oh, whoops. i do it all the time
[10:37] <mwe> Mr680x0: odd
[10:37] <Mr680x0> mwe: where would it be?
[10:37] <silya> Hi all! Please, push me to fine djvu reader with gtk iface. djview - qt based :(
[10:37] <mwe> lufis: in most cases it doesn't hurt. but better safe than sorry, right?
[10:37] <vox754> jexdawg: just ask, we know everything, mwa ha ha
[10:37] <silya> wich will be works fine in xfce
[10:37] <lufis> mwe, yes. i'll start using gksudo from now on :P
[10:37] <la> hhhghghdfjgh
[10:38] <mwe> Mr680x0: in the file. browse down maybe
[10:38] <trevor__> Hi, I think I may have just screwed up the fonts in my edgy installation by installing fontconfig.tbz from ubuntuguide.org.. is there any workaround for reverting to the old fonts used by the system?
[10:38] <la> 8092347177
[10:38] <Mr680x0> mwe: still don't see it, I tried the Where is function
[10:38] <ompaul> codi, as it worked eariler it now tries to use those values for the "default" lets try some very simple settings - choose the video card as "vesa"
[10:38] <codi> i'm getting a failed to load nvidia kernal module?
[10:38] <trevor__> everything is in times new roman now, ugh
[10:38] <mwe> Mr680x0: what is the user name?
[10:38] <thekidrio> trevor, i think thats system -> pref -> font
[10:38] <Mr680x0> mwe: it's supposed to be John
[10:38] <ompaul> LjL, ^^
[10:38] <jexdawg> thanks guys, worked beautifully. i'll research the nano command more fully before i get beryl up.
[10:39] <mwe> Mr680x0: were you able to log in os john earlier?
[10:39] <Mr680x0> no
[10:39] <mwe> as*
[10:39] <Mr680x0> mwe: something may have gotten screwed up, so if it's different, where would the username be?
[10:39] <mwe> Mr680x0: so you've never been able to log in?
[10:39] <trevor__> thanks thekidrio.. could you tell me what fonts are normally used in ubuntu so i could revert to those?
[10:39] <Mr680x0> mwe: nope
[10:39] <bizkit> it's the first time I install ubuntu and I want to install fuse...how do I do that???
[10:39] <mwe> Mr680x0: how did you install?
[10:39] <Flannel> !fuse | bizkit
[10:39] <ubotu> bizkit: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:39] <jexdawg> one more quesiton, how do i run a command with root access? (specifically, wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - ) just enter it in terminal regularly?
[10:39] <Mr680x0> mwe: with the Alternate Install CD
[10:39] <codi> ok, vesa with all defaults worked. everything looks horrible though
[10:40] <Flannel> !sudo | jexdawg
[10:40] <LjL> ompaul: people have too many cats who seem to love keyboards
[10:40] <ubotu> jexdawg: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:40] <Konoko> How can I stream the sound that plays on Amarok, xmms etc via shoutcast?
[10:40] <mwe> Mr680x0: didn't it prompt you to create a user?
[10:40] <Flannel> jexdawg: the sudo is already in that command ;)
[10:40] <ompaul> LjL, perhaps
[10:40] <timothy> hey, I have the ubuntu iso on my desktop, when I try to burn it with the right click menu it says it's not a valid disk image.  I tried to burn it with k3b and it said it needs burnfree support.  I have tried other images, so I know it isn't a dl problem what could be going wrong?
[10:40] <LjL> ompaul: well that's the usual excuse when they give an excuse :P
[10:40] <jexdawg> sudo = superuser? so any command with sudo is like having full authority?
[10:40] <Mr680x0> mwe: then I restarted and booted up into recovery mode, and typed sudo oem-config-prepare
[10:40] <jason__> trevor__: It looks like sans is used for just about everything
[10:40] <Flannel> jexdawg: yeah.
[10:40] <LjL> !sudo > jexdawg    (jexdawg, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:40] <thekidrio> jex sort of
[10:40] <__mikem> LjL, was it al that ompaul banned?
[10:40] <Yodude> can somebody please tell me how to open a terminal after closing X?
[10:40] <LjL> __mikem: la
[10:40] <Mr680x0> mwe: then when I booted up after that I had a prompt
[10:40] <thekidrio> not exactly = super user
[10:41] <__mikem> because he is still in here
[10:41] <thekidrio> it can be any user
[10:41] <timothy> sudo is switch user do
[10:41] <mwe> Mr680x0: search for 'bash' in the file. it should show something besides the root user
[10:41] <ompaul> codi, so now you can use a browser to and lshw to try and work out a better setting
[10:41] <bizkit> thank you
[10:41] <jexdawg> thanks LjL i'll check that link out
[10:41] <kitche> yodude: the screen should be black with a prompt right?
[10:41] <timothy> what is burn free?
[10:41] <Mr680x0> mwe: I found bash
[10:41] <Yodude> yes
[10:41] <codi> lshw?
[10:41] <mwe> Mr680x0: for what user name?
[10:41] <canine_kouji> god damn, kik
[10:41] <vox754> Yodude: you are back for more? Boot with the recovery mode, then "login <username>", then use "sudo"
[10:41] <Mr680x0> uh
[10:41] <canine_kouji> *lol
[10:41] <timothy> is there a way to burn a cd  iso from the command line
[10:41] <Yodude> i typed some commands but nothing happened
[10:41] <__mikem> !ohmy
[10:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:41] <LjL> !language | canine_kouji
[10:41] <ubotu> canine_kouji: please see above
[10:41] <canine_kouji> 453 bans in this channel
[10:41] <Mr680x0> mwe: it was to the right of root
[10:42] <mwe> Mr680x0: search again
[10:42] <trevor__> jason__... hmm, why does it look all small and pixelish then? I think it's something to do with me installing new fonts and fontconfig.tbz
[10:42] <nalioth> Yodude: your computer is connected to the internet whether you use X or a terminal
[10:42] <Alarm> why does swat always see my root login as incorrect? i use user: root , pass: (my su password) and it fails to login, although i can login as a simple user and see the swat homepage with documentation for example
[10:42] <nalioth> Yodude: please rejoin #ubuntu-classroom
[10:42] <__mikem> canine_kouji and you are fixing to join that list
[10:42] <Yodude> man you guys are confusing me
[10:42] <trevor__> i'm also using "Best Shapes" for rending.. is that what is normally used?
[10:42] <LjL> i was going to say that...
[10:42] <thekidrio> anyone here run into a lock up when the computer starts a slow speed usb device?
[10:42] <Morrowyn> is anyone here running maya on their ubuntu?
[10:42] <Mr680x0> mwe: it says [ This is the only occurence }
[10:42] <__mikem> LjL, you mean what I just said?
[10:42] <canine_kouji> __mikem: I'm sorry, but I don't see a definition for "family friendly" anywhere.
[10:42] <Mr680x0> *] 
[10:42] <thekidrio> it detects my keyboard, just hangs up on it
[10:42] <mwe> which one is the beginner friendly command, useradd or adduser? I always forget
[10:42] <jexdawg> what is Trevino's repository? do i need the GPG key for it? so many terms... yikes
[10:42] <LjL> __mikem: yeah
[10:42] <ompaul> timothy,  http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm
[10:42] <CppIsWeird> how do i in command line add or remove a user group or user to a specific folder?
[10:42] <Yodude> i just want to close X get to enter a command then start X and voila!
[10:42] <mwe> Mr680x0: oh
[10:42] <__mikem> :)
[10:43] <kitche> mwe: adduser
[10:43] <Yodude> why make it so hard?!
[10:43] <jason__> trevor__: I dont know. Maybe the other settings such as "Subpixel smoothing" need to be changed for your system?
[10:43] <canine_kouji> __mikem: some families do talk like that to each other, much at the table.
[10:43] <nalioth> Yodude: please join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:43] <ompaul> codi, ls hardware
[10:43] <thekidrio> jexdawg: there is a gpg key yes,  its basically the newest beryl
[10:43] <canine_kouji> __mikem: Tennessee ;)
[10:43] <Mr680x0> mwe: would I add a user?
[10:43] <LjL> thekidrio: it happened to me, but with USB drives... but then i don't have a USB keyboard... try booting with the "noapic" kernel option anyway
[10:43] <LjL> !bootoptions > thekidrio    (thekidrio, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:43] <trevor__> jason__.. maybe! I'll try that out then -- thanks.
[10:43] <mwe> Mr680x0: boot to recovery mode. that should give you a root prompt. then run adduser
[10:43] <__mikem> canine_kouji, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <CppIsWeird> kitche: is there a crash course like document that i could reference for doing such changes?
[10:43] <thekidrio> ahh yeah good thinking ljl
[10:43] <Yodude> nalioth: as i told you my connection timed out and i couldn't download irssi
[10:43] <Mr680x0> mwe: I'm there, how do I run adduser?
[10:43] <pfein_> For OCR: gocr or ocrad?  which is better?
[10:43] <Yodude> but you wouldn't listen
[10:43] <LjL> pfein_: possibly GOCR in general
[10:43] <ompaul> Yodude, please join the other channel
[10:44] <mwe> Mr680x0: you're not. you're on the alternate CD
[10:44] <nalioth> Yodude: please join #ubuntu-classroom and i'll give you detailed instructions
[10:44] <canine_kouji> heh
[10:44] <canine_kouji> you have to join another channel just so there isn't so much going through this one :)
[10:44] <Mr680x0> mwe: I'm not on the alternate CD anymore
[10:44] <mwe> Mr680x0: you booted to recovery mode?
[10:44] <LjL> canine_kouji: precisely. so if you have a support question, ask.
[10:44] <thekidrio> anyone else have problems with ATI and widescreen monitors?
[10:44] <Mr680x0> mwe: yes, I just made a new user
[10:44] <jexdawg> i have three lines of code errors that i'd like to post after running sudo apt-get update. can i post them here, or is that flooding?
[10:45] <mwe> Mr680x0: good. now make sure he's in the admin group
[10:45] <ompaul> !pastebin | jexdawg
[10:45] <ubotu> jexdawg: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:45] <canine_kouji> LjL: I'm just watching to see what questions are being asked for ubunut :) As in problems.
[10:45] <Mr680x0> mwe: how do I do that?
[10:45] <mwe> Mr680x0: gpasswd -a USERNAME admin
[10:45] <robdeman> hey folks... mkfs.ext3 keeps on crashing after writing inode 2xx
[10:45] <tomm1> hi
[10:45] <mwe> Mr680x0: USERNAME being the user you created
[10:45] <jexdawg> thannks ompaul
[10:45] <ompaul> ;)
[10:45] <thekidrio> i ended up having to boot with quiet splash off, go to terminal 2 and install ati drivers, then after install, do same thing disable quiet and then reinstall ATI drivers
[10:45] <pfein_> LjL: any howtos/tips URLs?  Like, lineart vs. grayscale, dpi, etc.  Trying to figure out how to make best use of my new thrift-store scanner...
[10:45] <Mr680x0> mwe: done
[10:45] <mwe> Mr680x0: now try su - USERNAME see if you become him
[10:46] <profoX`> does anyone know why Totem is the default media player in ubuntu? is there any reason for that? why is it the best choice? because I really don't understand it.
[10:46] <Mr680x0> mwe: it worked :)
[10:46] <mwe> Mr680x0: you should be able to login as the new user now
[10:46] <mwe> Mr680x0: just reboot
[10:46] <tomm1> I'm having a little problem with the installer i tell it to mount hda5 as root (/) but it says i didn't select a root filesystem
[10:46] <pbureau> profoX`, remove it ;P)
[10:46] <jexdawg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5124/ is my pastebin entry - the last two lines have errors after running sudo apt-get update
[10:46] <Mr680x0> mwe: ok
[10:46] <jrib> profoX`: it's the default for GNOME
[10:46] <ompaul> Hit3k, please read the message from the bot thanks
[10:46] <Plouj> hi guys, would anyone know what package the person writing this might have meant: http://neopsis.com/projects/yukon/wiki/SimpleGuide apt-get can't find xviewg-dev for me...
[10:46] <amonbish> Hello
[10:46] <adaptr> profoX`: no reason it's the "best choice", but it's simply the default... install xine, vlc, mplayer, whatever you want
[10:46] <profoX`> pbureau: yea yea i know but Why is it Default ? why is it "better" than for example, my favourite, (g)mplayer ? i have nothing but trouble with totem?
[10:47] <codi> i still don't understand what to do
[10:47] <adaptr> profoX`: get rid of the delusion that "default" == "best choice"...
[10:47] <Plouj> profoX`: maybe integration with gnome?
[10:47] <pbureau> profoX`, its like asking why windows uses IEas default browser., its just a release choice.
[10:47] <shatrat> Plouj, have you tried searching around in synaptic for xview?  do you have universe and multiverse enabled?  Those are a few steps to take if youre not finding a package
[10:47] <thekidrio> because some code monkey at gnome likes it better heh
[10:47] <ompaul> codi, what I am suggesting is that you look at your hardware and check the web and try to understand what is going on
[10:47] <amonbish> confidential
[10:48] <Plouj> shatrat: how do I search the synaptic?
[10:48] <adaptr> amonbish: not in here it aint
[10:48] <ompaul> codi, as a matter of interest what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[10:48] <codi> 6.10
[10:48] <kritzstapf> isnt there a alsa-jack-plugin for ubuntu?
[10:48] <thekidrio> anyone here at the southern california linux expo? SCALE?
[10:48] <mwe> Plouj: try the menu
[10:48] <wojtek> hi
[10:48] <LjL> pfein_: first of all, free OCR is far from on par with commercial alternatives, i'm afraid. so don't expect excellent results. aside from that, b/w at 600dpi
[10:48] <shatrat> Plouj, there is a search button in the upper center I believe
[10:48] <ompaul> codi, that just seems a little strange - got a live CD?
[10:48] <Hit3k> ompaul, so.. you would like me to leave when i changing my nick?
[10:48] <shatrat> !universe|Plouj
[10:48] <ubotu> Plouj: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:48] <profoX`> pbureau: yes, but Microsoft has a reason to promote IE.. because its theirs.. ubuntu should make the best choice for a default media player.. and i don't understand why totem was chosen.. Plouj, you say because of integration? what's special about Totem that it integrates so good with the GNOME desktop?
[10:48] <Mr680x0> mwe: thanks :)
[10:48] <bidou> bonsoir
[10:48] <mwe> Mr680x0: yw ;)
[10:49] <ompaul> Hit3k, no I don't want you to change your nick in this channel, thanks
[10:49] <stephen> i need help getting my wireless to work
[10:49] <bidou> qq1 sait comment installer un modem olitec
[10:49] <shatrat> profoX`, well, I think totem is probably more user friendly than my personal favorite, mplayer
[10:49] <adaptr> profoX`: that's just stupid - there are a lot of players to choose from, who would decide what is "best" ?
[10:49] <Plouj> profoX`: I dunno, I use Gentoo on my desktop :)
[10:49] <kitche> profoX`: totem is part of gnome
[10:49] <mwe> !wifi | stephen
[10:49] <ubotu> stephen: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:49] <stephen> i have a broadcom 4306 wireless card
[10:49] <kitche> profoX`: totem - GNOME-desktop movie player based on the xine backend
[10:49] <jason__> profoX`: maybe you would have better results asking your question on some Gnome mailing list or something?
[10:49] <stephen> installed inside my comp
[10:49] <pbureau> profoX`,  I agree that the "program default selection ubuntu has should be expanded to be able to change the defaults for a number or programs, I dont use totem myself I prefer gxine
[10:49] <stephen> ive tried numerouse ways but no success
[10:50] <pbureau> stephen,  I can help you , come to #helpya well fic you up
[10:50] <pbureau> s/fic/fix
[10:50] <shatrat> stephen, did you try the broadcom how-to on the ubuntofurms.org? that !worksforme
[10:50] <stephen> ive tried a lot of things
[10:50] <stephen> i have no wireless conn option now in networking
[10:50] <profoX`> pbureau: hmmM.. do you think that a first run wizard (which you could ofcourse just "skip") after ubuntu installation would be a good idea? to choose your default applications and choose between a few themes etc.?
[10:51] <lcde> hello room
[10:51] <lcde> has anyone ever had any luck with a promise fasttrak sx4060 with ubuntu?
[10:51] <stephen> pbureau, im there
[10:51] <pbureau> profoX`, gnome has a "prefered application" already in system-preferences but its needs more choices is all
[10:52] <xtrix> hey, how can I see any mounted windows partitions in "my computer" in gnome ?
[10:52] <vox754> profoX`: please don't discuss this, media players, here; this is a support channel. Questions-answers only, ok?
[10:53] <jrib> xtrix: they should show up if you mount them in /media
[10:53] <pr0t0type> hi i need help with nvidia and the new kernel. my xorg doesn't work when i use "nvidia". I only can use "nv" what is the problem ? Im on ubuntu 6.10
[10:53] <CrakeHunter> hello, i made a fresh install of ubuntu 6.10 - then i made an update, now update manager crashes every time i want to start - is this prlbem known?
[10:53] <profoX`> vox754: sure, is there another irc channel meant to discuss those things? ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:54] <kitche> pr0t0type: the nvidia driver is broken on the new kernel at least it was eariler it still might be
[10:54] <xtrix> jrib: that is, /media/hda1, mounted, but nothing there :/
[10:54] <kitche> pr0t0type: use the old kernel for now
[10:54] <profoX`> CrakeHunter: does it just crash or give you an error message? try running it from the terminal
[10:54] <ompaul> profoX`, some might talk there on that subject
[10:54] <vox754> profoX`: sure, create your own channel if you wish.
[10:54] <CrakeHunter> whats the command , profoxy?
[10:54] <linux_kid> Where is the 'Linux source build that matches your running kernel"  I am running Edgy, all updates installed, kernel version 2.6.17-11-generic
[10:54] <thekidrio> CrakeHunter: run sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:55] <pr0t0type> kitche:  so nvidia doesn't run on the new kernel at the moment ?
[10:55] <r3m> Hi, i can't find the floopy image to install ubuntu via NIC
[10:55] <thekidrio> err add another sudo after the &&
[10:55] <kitche> pr0t0type: nope well unless you install it manually
[10:55] <TuTUx> there is a new linux-restricted-modules for nvidia 9631 driver available to upgrade, if i 'v already compiled the 9764 driver by myself, is upgrade this modules gonna effect anything?
[10:55] <pr0t0type> k is that hard work ?
[10:55] <TuTUx> 9746*
[10:55] <vox754> pr0t0type: nVidia is broken, you got that right. Now tell your friends about it so they don't follow your steps.
[10:56] <thekidrio> pr0t0type: look at your grub boot screen look for the other kernel
[10:56] <pfein_> LjL: the results are pretty awful...
[10:56] <Almindor> hey guys, as of late if I do "switch user" I get a screen lock instead, is this something known ? (didn't happen few updates ago)
[10:56] <linux_kid> Can I downgrade my kernel from 2.6.17-11-generic to 2.6.17-10-generic ??
[10:56] <shafire> hello
[10:56] <shafire> someone uses ubuntu as server?
[10:56] <LjL> linux_kid: why? just boot 10
[10:56] <pr0t0type> k thx i ll try that
[10:56] <TuTUx> there is a new linux-restricted-modules for nvidia 9631 driver available to upgrade, if i 'v already compiled the 9746 driver by myself, is upgrade this modules gonna effect anything?
[10:56] <jackson123> I'm trying to install my nvidia drivers in a terminal after "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" but it keeps telling me I have to switch to runlevel 3. is there any way to fix this?
[10:56] <linux_kid> LjL: thanks, im just having a stupid moment
[10:56] <LjL> pfein_: awful like what? is it something private, or can you post the scan?
[10:56] <jpatota> what are some reasons apt will hold packages back from installation
[10:57] <ompaul> r3m, please check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsServerNetworkInstall
[10:57] <thekidrio> linux_kid:  look at your grub boot screen look for the other kernel
[10:57] <lcde> has anyone ever had any luck with a promise fasttrak sx4060 with ubuntu? lspci shows the device but nothing is on the dmesg. Running Ubuntu 6.10 also updated kernel to 2.6.20 with no additional luck. is the device supported? i found no mention of it in bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:57] <ompaul> !ask | shafire
[10:57] <ubotu> shafire: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:57] <shafire> whick server version should i use?
[10:57] <linux_kid> thekidrio:  ok
[10:57] <ompaul> shafire, 6.06
[10:57] <jackson123> I'm trying to install my nvidia drivers in a terminal after "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" but it keeps telling me I have to switch to runlevel 3. is there any way to fix this?
[10:57] <linux_kid> shafire, use dapper, its more stable
[10:57] <shafire> ompaul: are there the newest packages?
[10:57] <r3m> ompaul this page do not exist
[10:57] <vox754> TuTUx: the only way to know is trying. Can't help you because I don't have that hardware.
[10:57] <webben> shafire, I use Ubuntu LTS (Long-Term Service edition): Dapper as a server.
[10:58] <shafire> its only a playserver...
[10:58] <Morrowyn> jackson123, why not boot into the recovery mode when grubbing
[10:58] <Ganon^coding> jackson123 maybe you aren't on root mod?
[10:58] <webben> shafire, If it's only a playserver than use either Dapper or Edgy, it doesn't matter.
[10:58] <jrib> xtrix: strange, what does your fstab line look like?
[10:58] <Morrowyn> then you won't load the X
[10:58] <TuTUx> vox754, ok
[10:58] <linux_kid> shafire, use whatever you desire, we are just recommending dapper for stability
[10:58] <ompaul> shafire, no, and then stability is good, so you have well documented things
[10:58] <Morrowyn> and pressing ctrl-alt-f1 or something drops you ot of X, iirc
[10:58] <theherbalizer> are there any programs to make gtk themes, or is it all text editor?
[10:58] <jackson123> Morrowyn: k I'll try that
[10:58] <shafire> so LTS version hasn't newest versions?
[10:59] <ompaul> shafire, this is correct, and I still suggest it to you
[10:59] <xtrix> jrib: /dev/hda1   /media/hda1  vfat  defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0   1
[10:59] <LjL> shafire: no version of ubuntu has the "newest" versions of things. when a version is released (actually, some months before), it's "frozen", and no versions of anything are added.
[10:59] <jrib> shafire: LTS was released in 6.06 (June 2006).  After that, it only gets security updates and major bug fixes
[10:59] <LjL> shafire: all you get are security patches and fixes to very serious bugs.
[10:59] <LjL> !backspace > shafire    (shafire, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:59] <Morrowyn> and install irssi and links , so you have an irc client and webbrowser  on the command line
[10:59] <linux_kid> shafire: Dapper is LTS and more stable some sya, Edgy is another normal distro, 18month support
[10:59] <LjL> shafire: and, possibly, backports
[10:59] <Morrowyn> in case stuff go wrong :)
[11:00] <slyfox> Which nvidia drivers is better to get? the ones from sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common  or the 9xxx series ?
[11:00] <Tomcat_> slyfox: Depends on what you need.
[11:00] <LjL> shafire: err... when i typed !backspace to the bot, i obviously meant backports =)
[11:00] <ompaul> !timebasedreleases | shafire
[11:00] <ubotu> shafire: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:00] <Morrowyn> i grabbed the apt-get ones, but i might go for the newer one
[11:00] <shafire> i will install http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[11:01] <LjL> shafire: as you wish, but some words of warning
[11:01] <LjL> !feisty > shafire    (shafire, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:01] <slyfox> Tomcat_: I ll probably will isntall drivers via the envy script the 9xxx series
[11:01] <LjL> shafire: if you actually want a *working system*, don't. that's for testers.
[11:01] <drbair_laptop> I'm attempted to use the auto.smb script. When I cd to a machine name it lists the shares on it, but when cd'ing to a share I get the list of shares again. dmesg shows "CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22". Do I need a passfile? If so where to I put it and what name should it get. Documentations is extremely lacking
[11:01] <ompaul> shafire, please go to #ubuntu+1 for help with that
[11:01] <shafire> okay
[11:01] <Tomcat_> slyfox: I like support, so I'd use the distro version. :)
[11:02] <slyfox> Tomcat_: this one?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common  ?
[11:02] <Tomcat_> slyfox: Yes.
[11:02] <kritzstapf> r3m, no floppy image, but a small .iso: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[11:02] <thekidrio> slyfox: only if you have not changed your apt/sources.list
[11:02] <jrib> xtrix: are you part of the group with gid 46?
[11:03] <Tomcat_> slyfox: Only problem is that it's too old for AIGLX, so I do use a thirdparty one.
[11:03] <slyfox> Tomcat_: I'll get this http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:03] <CrakeHunter> hello again, i tried to do a "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" but it says: could not open lock file /var/lib/dkpg/lock
[11:03] <CrakeHunter> i entered my password of course!
[11:04] <xtrix> jrib: one sec.
[11:04] <Tomcat_> slyfox: Yeah, I know envy. Should be good as well.
[11:04] <ompaul> CrakeHunter, you need to use sudo both times
[11:04] <Morrowyn> you have two synaptics open or something
[11:04] <Morrowyn> CrakeHunter,
[11:04] <CrakeHunter> aa okay i dont have to type the && !
[11:05] <jrib> xtrix: I basically have the same setup as you except I'm mounting an xfs partition where I'm in the group that owns it and it shows up in nautilus
[11:05] <ompaul> CrakeHunter, good to do so - you do need two sudos though
[11:05] <Hoosteen> question plz.....
[11:05] <Hoosteen> ok..quick question, i've seen some screenshots with like a bar at the bottom of the screen that has icons and they resize when the mouse is on them...what exactly is that called?
[11:05] <Morrowyn> dock
[11:05] <CrakeHunter> okay, after i did: "sudo apt-get upgrade" it says: segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:06] <Morrowyn> kibadock or gdesklet iirc
[11:06] <Morrowyn> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:07] <CrakeHunter> same error message-
[11:07] <Kajin> Can someone help me please, the window list applet in my bottom panel stopped updating.
[11:07] <robdeman> folks when formatting my harddrive with mkfs.ext3 it says it says: Writing inode tables 104/459 and crashes then
[11:07] <Kajin> It's completely empty.
[11:07] <robdeman> sometimes it carshes at 250
[11:07] <silya> What IDE present for gtk2 like qt-designer?
[11:07] <Kyral> Glade?
[11:08] <Kyral> I dunno I hack in Qt when I write GUIs (and I use a text editor..)
[11:08] <Kajin> Also, I'm having this error when I'm trying to access to access a different partition on my disk:
[11:08] <Psy> my wireless card won;t even power up on my install any ideas?
[11:08] <Boohbah> an eft is a newt?
[11:08] <jrib> !eft
[11:08] <ubotu> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper is called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy
[11:09] <Kyral> silya: Glade?
[11:09] <Kajin> device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[11:09] <Kajin> could not execute pmount
[11:09] <Psy> its a belkin F5D7010 pcmcia card
[11:09] <binarydigit> did that latest kernel upgrade break anyone elses grub
[11:09] <binarydigit> im now getting an error 17 cannot mount selected partition
[11:10] <whaaaa> hello
[11:10] <silya> Thanks!
[11:10] <vox754> Psy: look for your hardware here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:10] <CrakeHunter> so noone has any idea, why the update maanger crashes (after i applied the recommended updateS)?
[11:10] <Psy> thanks
[11:10] <barbarella> CrakeHunter: can you do an atp-cache search?
[11:10] <CrakeHunter> no never heard of it, unfortunately
[11:11] <pfein> LjL: uh, trying to OCR bills & the like... just doesn't do a very good job - lots of misidentified or unknown characters.
[11:11] <CrakeHunter> you would have to explain the steps for me
[11:11] <sivik> anyone tried to flash a linksys router using tftp in ubuntu?
[11:11] <LjL> pfein: bills are even harder since you can't really do spellchecking effectively (not that gocr does spellchecking anyway)
[11:12] <mamzers555> he, are there any gimp-development-versions for edgy?
[11:12] <whaaaa> I downloaded ubuntu desktop cd for i386 and booted the cd but when i switch to graphics mode my screen displays an error messange "mode not suported", can I start ubuntu in console mode and try selecting a video mode myself?
[11:12] <LjL> pfein: i'd go for a commercial product, honestly, if you really need decent OCR
[11:12] <xtrix> jrib: yes, Im in 46 group
[11:12] <pfein> LjL: eh, I bought my scanner at the thrift store for $10. ;)
[11:12] <xtrix> jrib: and haldaemon too
[11:12] <vox754> whaaaa: YES... obviously.
[11:12] <jrib> xtrix: and if you logout and come back it still doesn't show up right?
[11:13] <xtrix> jrib: so here seems to be ok I think
[11:13] <barbarella> CrakeHunter: apt-cache search ubuntu (just a sample) Are you getting some output?
[11:13] <pfein> LjL: coworker of mine scans his bills & has beagle index the OCR'd text.  I like the idea of a paperless life. ;)
[11:13] <whaaaa> my other solution is to boot a server installation cd but ....   waiting for your solution first
[11:14] <ompaul> sivik, more than once
[11:14] <ardchoille> Why does locate .exe show two .exe files on an Ubuntu system? I have only installed things from the repos and I don't use Windows files.
[11:14] <ompaul> sivik, it is all well detailed on the ddwrt site
[11:14] <sivik> ompaul: yes i know, thats what i'm having problems with
[11:14] <vox754> whaaaa: you mean, you haven't installed it yet? During the boot you can press F-something to select resolution. Maybe I got your question wrong.
[11:14] <zorba64> ardchoille, maybe mono stuff?
[11:14] <ompaul> sivik, I think there is a ddwrt channel
[11:15] <Kyral> ardchoille: I think the shell might have caught you
[11:15] <ardchoille> zorba64: I don't use mono
[11:15] <Kyral> ardchoille: Was it literally .exe
[11:15] <Owner_> hey. I've installed ndiswrapper, and I've got linux restricted modules installed on my edgy installation. What else do I have to do to get my wireless card to work? Do I need to get the windows drivers for it? I've never used ndiswrapper before. It is a Marvell Technology card.
[11:15] <Kyral> ardchoille: The shell might have acted on the "." as a glob
[11:15] <ardchoille> Kyral: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2135962#post2135962
[11:15] <zorba64> ardchoille, what are the two .exe's then?
[11:15] <kitche> ardchoille: if you use gnome you use mono beagle is built with mono
[11:15] <sivik> ompaul: what server?
[11:16] <CrakeHunter> barbarella - yea lots of output!
[11:16] <Kyral> ardchoille: Its something Python pulled in
[11:16] <ompaul> sivik, let me look at the ddwrt site for a sec
[11:16] <Kyral> ardchoille: Ask those nutjobs :P
[11:16] <ardchoille> zorba64: wininst-6.exe and wininst-7.1.exe
[11:16] <vox754> Owner_: you need to provide further description.The chipset specially.
[11:16] <whaaaa> vox754: not installed yet, only booting on the cd... i thing ubuntu tries to switch to graphics mode to continue the instalation but my screen displays nothing... black screen with an error message
[11:16] <Owner_> anyone used ndiswrapper before?
[11:16] <ardchoille> Kyral: hehe
[11:16] <sivik> ompaul: i'm following http://www.bitsum.com/openwiking/owbase/ow.asp?WRT54G5_CFE
[11:16] <Owner_> vox754: Ok. Do you want the full lspci output?
[11:16] <sivik> and i'm having problem with the tftp part, it either times out or never reboots
[11:17] <CrakeHunter> first line after typing "apt-cache search ubuntu" is -  "apport -gtk GTK frontend for the apport crash system
[11:17] <Owner_> vox754: That is how ndiswrapper works, right? I have to have the windows drivers?
[11:17] <zorba64> /usr/lib/python2.4/distutils/command/wininst-6.exe & /usr/lib/python2.4/distutils/command/wininst-7.1.exe?
[11:17] <LjL> pfein: well you could still scan and keep the pictures. HDs are big nowadays, and b/w pictures compress well
[11:17] <ardchoille> zorba64: That's them :)
[11:17] <LjL> pfein: free OCR will get good sooner or later :)
[11:17] <paolo> ciao a tutti
[11:17] <zorba64> dunno...some python distutils stuff...over my head
[11:17] <vox754> Owner_: head to #ndiswrapper. Not the full output, just the relevant part. Look your card here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[11:17] <ompaul> sivik,  http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation
[11:18] <Owner_> vox754: Thanks
[11:18] <ompaul> sivik, I have not got a router here to play with
[11:18] <ompaul> sivik, they are all in use
[11:18] <jumpkick> anyone recommend a good console hexeditor?
[11:18] <ardchoille> zorba64: Guess I'm going to have to install anti-virus checkers if the system is going to be using Widows files.
[11:18] <sivik> so its write and not put?
[11:18] <LjL> !it | paolo
[11:18] <ubotu> paolo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:18] <pfein> LjL: doesn't look like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract_(software) is in ubuntu yet. :|
[11:19] <ompaul> sivik, we are offtopic for here - please follow the instructions on that site
[11:19] <sivik> ompaul, ok
[11:19] <LjL> pfein: hm, no, but i seem to recall there is a package somewhere...
[11:19] <mamzers555> he, are there any gimp-development-versions for edgy?
[11:19] <CrakeHunter> my update manager is still crashing , i did as i was told: "apt-cache search ubuntu" and i had some output... how does that help me?
[11:20] <Morrowyn> you might want to check the gimp site for that?
[11:20] <mamzers555> Morrowyn; i did, there are no packages for ubuntu
[11:20] <CrakeHunter> btw the package manager is crashing as well
[11:20] <Morrowyn> i think just grab the source and package it for ubuntu specific after a compile
[11:20] <pfein> LjL: yeah, in debian unstable, looks like
[11:21] <CrakeHunter> morrowyn , if you are addressing me, sorry i have no clue how to do that
[11:21] <nkbreau> what command do i need to run to find out if port 8080 is open on a ubuntu machine ?
[11:21] <LjL> pfein: hm, not sure - it's not there in debian testing at any rate
[11:21] <zorba64> ardchoille, have a read of the README in /usr/lib/python2.4/distutils
[11:21] <Morrowyn> CrakeHunter maybe apt-get is broken by a corrupt database or something. Myabe you need to fix the database
[11:21] <LjL> pfein: but as the wikipedia article says... it might be a decent *engine*, but right now it lacks the other things that make up a decent OCR package
[11:21] <whaaaa> vox754: maybe my card is not supported by linux... it is a gma3000 in the motherboard...  ASUS P5B-MX/WIFI-AP
[11:21] <ardchoille> zorba64: No, I'll read that, thanks.
[11:21] <mamzers555> Morrowyn; i need dbus 1.0 to compile it, did you ever try to replace dbus in ubuntu with a newer version?
[11:21] <ompaul> nkbreau, you could try telenet localhost:8080
[11:21] <zorba64> ardchoille, s'ok
[11:21] <CrakeHunter> okay, could you tell me how to do that, please?
[11:21] <vox754> whaaaa: laptop?
[11:22] <ompaul> !nickspam | aceZ
[11:22] <ubotu> aceZ: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[11:22] <pfein> LjL: yeah, fair enuf.  heh, fiesty too.  All of which are conspiring to defeat my laziness...  thanks for the help
[11:22] <LjL> !info tesseract feisty
[11:22] <ubotu> Package tesseract does not exist in feisty
[11:22] <Morrowyn> mamzers555,  http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/article/Compiling-Gimp-From-Cvs-head-With-Ubuntu-6-06-8731.html  maybe this will help?
[11:22] <whaaaa> vox754: no i build a new computer today
[11:22] <mikere> Is the security repository being overloaded the reason linux-image-386 and 3 other packages aren't being updated for me atm?
[11:22] <Yodude> nalioth: are you there?
[11:22] <nalioth> Yodude: yes
[11:22] <LjL> mikere: not sure, do a "sudo apt-get update" and try again
[11:23] <whaaaa> vox754: intel gma X3000 precisely
[11:23] <fab5freddy> Has anybody burnt a Lightscribe cd using VMWare?
[11:23] <ronya> hi
[11:23] <Morrowyn> hmmm, replacing dbus sounds weird to me
[11:23] <Igor_V2> hey...how i get plugins to see .avi in the player totem-xine?
[11:23] <mindstate> what exactly is dbus? whats it for
[11:23] <mikere> LjL: that appears to have things back on track - thanks
[11:23] <Yodude> tell me the name of the learning channel i need to talk to you
[11:24] <zorba64> Igor_V2, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs might help
[11:24] <Music_Shuffle> Yodude, #ubuntu-classroom?
[11:24] <ompaul> mindstate, it is an internal messaging protocol used by gnome
[11:24] <Yodude> yes
[11:24] <vox754> whaaaa: I'm gone. Good luck.
[11:24] <nalioth> Yodude: #ubuntu-classroom
[11:24] <mindstate> mindstate: is it needed ?
[11:24] <Yodude> thnks
[11:24] <Music_Shuffle> Np
[11:24] <Igor_V2> zorba64: it has to wmv too...or i have to get win32 too?
[11:25] <Prez_> is there an official update to OOo 2.1 from 2.0.4 for Edgy?
[11:25] <mamzers555> Morrowyn; i'll give it a try, with an older package, 2.3.14 needs dbus-1.0, but thanks for your help
[11:25] <OuZo> hi all, i have a AMD 64bit processor running 32bit Ubuntu... i have tried 64bit Ubuntu about a year ago but i was too unstable for me, is anyone here using 64bit Ubuntu so i can ask questions. thanks
[11:25] <zorba64> Igor_V2, the w32codecs are prob needed as well
[11:25] <Tomcat_> Prez_: No.
[11:25] <mindstate> i meant ompaul is it needed? lol
[11:25] <atlanta800> I can no longer use Ctrl+Alt+F# to get to a console, any idea why?
[11:25] <Morrowyn> CrakeHunter, http://neoaddict.wordpress.com/2006/12/05/segmentation-faults-with-apt-get/ maybe this wil help?
[11:25] <ompaul> mindstate, for gnome to work yes
[11:25] <Music_Shuffle> OuZo, /me.
[11:25] <mindstate> ompaul: alright
[11:25] <Morrowyn> mamzers555, hope tiw orks for you
[11:25] <Igor_V2> zorba64: ok...thanks
[11:25] <Music_Shuffle> OuZo, but I'm no technical specialist :P
[11:25] <Tomcat_> Prez_: There are no updates within one distro version, only security fixes.
[11:25] <Prez_> Tomcat_:  u know if there is going to be?
[11:26] <Tomcat_> Prez_: No, there won't. 2.1 will be in feisty.
[11:26] <CrakeHunter> well, i suppose i have to do a reinstall , but before i do that, id like to check my 2  harddiscs completely - for errors ; how do that exactly? i dont get along with fsck, it always gives me errors if i do "fsck [harddisclocation] "
[11:26] <Prez_> Tomcat_:  got it, so wait for feisty?
[11:26] <Tomcat_> Prez_: Exactly. It's already in there. :)
[11:27] <Prez_> thanks
[11:27] <codi> ok, back again. i installed updates this morning, as per ubuntu auto update and have had nothing but problems. after the reboot x wouldn't start. managaed to get that working by reinstalling the nvidia drivers, but now my tv tuner cards aren't showing up?
[11:27] <ompaul> !timebasedreleases
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:27] <ompaul> Prez_, ^^
[11:27] <atlanta800> I can no longer use Ctrl+Alt+F# to get to a console, any idea why?
[11:27] <jexdawg> hey guys, i just installed beryl and just wanted to say... uh... that i installed beryl. anyways, this is pretty much the coolest thing ever. i think i'm in love.
[11:28] <nkbreau> ok, next question... how do i open up port 8080 on my ubuntu server ?
[11:28] <CrakeHunter> can anyone tell me, how i get sudo rights on nautilus, if i try to delete files?
[11:29] <atlanta800> CrakeHunter: use "gksu nautilus" to launch nautilus
[11:29] <ompaul> codi, eariler I asked you if you used binary drivers you are now talking about nvidia drivers (non free drivers)  if you did previously, then  you need to tell xserver-xorg about them
[11:29] <ompaul> nkbreau, you don't a program does - you have to tell whatever program you want to use it to use it - some programs set themselves up to do so by default
[11:30] <codi> how do i do that. and also, my x is back up and gnome is running fine, beryl won't start but i could care less about that hunk of junk. the real problem is the tv tuner cards disappearing. would that be related to nvidia drivers
[11:30] <ompaul> codi, nv is free software, and nvidia are costless, but not free
[11:30] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: great, i mainly need my PC for JAVA programming, C++, & HTML, but use it for all other recreational stuff... programs i mostly use are Skype, gaim, aMSN, bluetooth, TEXmacs, gnomeBacker, blender, camoroma, scribus, blam, webHTTPtrack, Kget, Eclipse, Istanbul - for screencasts, VLC.
[11:31] <Marupa> hey, uh...I just did a synaptic 'mark all upgrades'...restarted after it told me to and now my sound doesn't work at all.  Nothing whatsoever.
[11:31] <mikere> Marupa: did you check to make sure volume wasn't just turned down to 0?
[11:31] <Music_Shuffle> OuZo, and?
[11:31] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: are you using XGL? i would love to run XGL & have my tv card work under 64bit Ubuntu
[11:31] <Marupa> mikere, Yes.
[11:31] <ompaul> codi, free in its simplest form is the ability to work with source of a file for whatever reason, now if you want to do the others, you need to think about how you got it up and running in the first place, whatever changes you made for that
[11:31] <CrakeHunter> after "gksu nautilus" the terminal crashed
[11:31] <atlanta800> anyone on why X wouldn't let you escape to a console?
[11:31] <nkbreau> ompaul: I've fot jboss messaging running on a box which the interface on port 8080, but I'm getting server not foiund in firefox... i want to know how to open up port 8080 so that i can access the admin tool
[11:32] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: sorry... was a long list, do you use any of those programs under 64bit Ubuntu?
[11:32] <CrakeHunter> now i cannot enter it anymore. do i have to reboot or is there another way to get permission to delete files in nautilus?
[11:32] <ompaul> nkbreau, if it is not on that port then maybe you don't have it running
[11:32] <atlanta800> CrakeHunter: I set up a menu item using that, because I often need root permission in nautilus, if that is your situation, you may want to do the same
[11:32] <codi> this is outrageous. whoever told me that ubuntu was ready for any kind of primetime was sadly mistaken
[11:32] <codi> i just want a computer that works
[11:32] <Music_Shuffle> OuZo, I use AIGLX for Beryl, and I've used gaim, aMSN, TEX, Backer, kget, blender, camorama, scribus, and VLC
[11:32] <atlanta800> CrakeHunter: it should still run from terminal though...
[11:33] <Music_Shuffle> codi, and what's wrong with it...?
[11:33] <sebas891> anyone struggled to get artsd to play ogg and mp3 files?
[11:33] <nkbreau> ompaul: it running on port 8080... i need to open that port up so i can access it via my webbrowser from other machines
[11:33] <CrakeHunter> well it gave me some lines to read then it didnt react
[11:33] <CrakeHunter> unfortunately i cannot paste them ... application crashed already
[11:33] <atlanta800> odd
[11:33] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: thats great... think that should be good enough :) what graphics card do you have?
[11:33] <codi> everything, not only did updates kill x, but lost my tv tuner cards and also, my usb drives are gone
[11:33] <ompaul> nkbreau, can you see it on your local machine, in the webbrowser http://127.0.0.1:8080
[11:34] <nkbreau> i only have ssh access to that machione
[11:34] <atlanta800> CrakeHunter: yeah, I don't really know what to tell you, I just got that method from a guide somewhere
[11:34] <CrakeHunter> well i will do a format and reinstall, but i want to be sure and do a complete harddisc check - how can i do that? (i dont get along with fsck)
[11:34] <Marupa> is there some problem with my card and the latest kernel?
[11:34] <Music_Shuffle> OuZo, 6800GS :)
[11:34] <codi> ompaul: are you saying i need to reinstall mythtv?
[11:34] <ompaul> codi, you used non free software, ubuntu is not at fault for that, if you used cards that worked with free software you would not have the issues you have
[11:35] <codi> my video card is working fine. do nvidia drivers also run a tv tuner card
[11:35] <ompaul> no idea
[11:35] <atlanta800> I can no longer use Ctrl+Alt+F# to get to a console, any idea why?
[11:35] <codi> my guess is no, so what are you talking about non free drivers
[11:35] <codi> the video card is working fine now
[11:35] <shafire> why is the ubuntu-server installation that slow?!
[11:35] <codi> nvidia, no more. now tv tuner
[11:35] <codi> different
[11:35] <ompaul> you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv
[11:35] <ardchoille> zorba64: These two .exe files were installed with the main python2.4 package from the main repo. I guess everyone who runs Dapper has them.
[11:36] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: i am currently running a ATI radeon X700... i had XGL working in breazy, but that was a long time ago, since then iv had no luck :( so i am going to buy a 7600GS 256MB DDR3 PCI Express, i take it, it will be supported?
[11:36] <ompaul> if that is the package name
[11:36] <Morrowyn> goodluck with ati drivers
[11:36] <blackest> help I got a problem with a damaged cdrom  I want to take the good files off but ubuntu insists on trying to read damaged files i don't want
[11:36] <shatrat> OuZo, Yes, thats a very nice card for the money.
[11:36] <Music_Shuffle> OuZo, indeed.
[11:36] <CrakeHunter> heh, breazy i did buy a 7600gs silentjust for linux, havent tried xgl or aiglx though :)
[11:36] <Psy> my netowrk conenction is showing up as disconected - it's definitely enabled and definitely plugged in, any help would be aprpeciated :)
[11:36] <shatrat> OuZo, I upgraded from ATI to Nvidia myself and im very very happy with it
[11:37] <blackest> is there any tool to just read good files and ignore damaged ones
[11:37] <Music_Shuffle> And its a nice card, especially considering the BFGTech version from Newegg is $90 USD post-rebate, and it should work perfectly.
[11:37] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: shatrat: thanks
[11:37] <CrakeHunter> morrowyn, could you tell me how to check my harddiscs for errors? i need something like scandisc (as in windoze)
[11:37] <Music_Shuffle> GL :)
[11:37] <Morrowyn> fsck
[11:37] <erUSUL> CrakeHunter: fsck
[11:37] <Morrowyn> you might need to run it on superuser or single user mode
[11:37] <atlanta800> Can someone please help me out, I can no longer use Ctrl+Alt+F# to get to a console... Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc works, to reboot X...
[11:38] <Morrowyn> atlanta800, try booting from grub into the console directly
[11:38] <CrakeHunter> erusul, i tried that :  "fsck /dev/sda" but doesnt work - isnt that the right command?
[11:38] <CrakeHunter> i am using LVM , with ext3 if that matters
[11:38] <Morrowyn> sda1 iirc
[11:38] <Morrowyn> or sda2
[11:38] <atlanta800> Morrowyn, well yes I know I can do that, but I need easy access to the console whenever, I don't want to have to boot into it everytime I need it
[11:39] <Morrowyn> maybe
[11:39] <erUSUL> CrakeHunter: does it says why it fails?
[11:39] <Morrowyn> go to assceroires -> terminal
[11:39] <Morrowyn> in the gnome menu
[11:39] <Morrowyn> or do you need need to drop out of X completely
[11:39] <ompaul> nkbreau, you could have used my name and it would highlight for me - install lynx and check it on that url
[11:39] <erUSUL> CrakeHunter: you have to do it with tha partitions umounted so is a good idea doing it from a livecd or in recovery mode
[11:39] <atlanta800> Morrowyn, I know of that too, but I used to be able to get to the actual console, I have specific needs to be able to do that
[11:39] <Morrowyn> ok
[11:39] <andre> hey guys,
[11:39] <shatrat> CrakeHunter, you can do "sudo touch /forcefsck" and reboot and it will fsck on the next boot.
[11:39] <GeekChick|U> Is there anyway to make bluetooth less flaky in Ubuntu? A GUI to manage bluetooth devices like wireless mice, etc...?
[11:40] <andre> I need help  :(
[11:40] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: is there a 64bit IRC chat room, i want to ask more complex questions like, RAID & LVM... im doing all my research now so that when festy comes out i can partition my hard drives properly. no i have a 250gig ext3 partition... i need to do web hosting so i need better partition setup
[11:40] <CrakeHunter> a okay, thanks @ erusul + shatrat
[11:40] <jesselang> !edgykernel
[11:40] <andre> my Linux install won't boot into X anymore!
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgykernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ompaul> codi, please understand this, that making something work by using resources outside of ubuntu on a ubuntu system calls off all bets
[11:40] <atlanta800> the F-key method was working when I installed, and up until just a few days ago, may be because of an update...
[11:40] <shatrat> GeekChick|U, bluetooth is flaky in general in my experience, on any OS.  I ditched my bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
[11:40] <Konoko> How can I specify a playlist item of DSP:/dev/soundcard, where soundcard is the name of may audio device? It is /dev/audio.
[11:40] <codi> please. i am no longer talking about nvidia or my graphics card
[11:40] <LjL> andre: do you have third-party obtained nvidia or ati drivers?
[11:40] <codi> please stop
[11:40] <andre> LjL: yes
[11:40] <Morrowyn> atlanta800, could be, i always used the ctrl-alt-f#
[11:41] <GeekChick|U> shatrat, the bluetooth stack in windows is extremely good. and not flaky. it simply works without any hitches. phones, mice, keyboards, whatever. it simply works.
[11:41] <Music_Shuffle> OuZo, not really, you can just ask in here
[11:41] <Morrowyn> for that stuff
[11:41] <andre> LjL: nvidia
[11:41] <LjL> andre: from which repositories?
[11:41] <OuZo> Music_Shuffle: thanks :)
[11:41] <andre> LjL: hmmm  I can't be sure of that...
[11:41] <GeekChick|U> Are there bluetooth device GUI managers for ubuntu?
[11:41] <shatrat> GeekChick|U, well not in my experience.  I've had lots of annoyances with my peripherals, phone, etc
[11:41] <Music_Shuffle> Np :D
[11:41] <atlanta800> Morrowyn, I've used it frequently in the past, but I've been tweaking, updating, and trying to get things to work on this system, that I never noticed exactly when it stopped working
[11:41] <LjL> andre: you should be. installing unofficial drivers isn't something to be taken lightly
[11:41] <assasukasse> hi anyone has a nice guide for installing XGL with nvidia-legacy drivers? i tried and tried, with no luck
[11:41] <ompaul> shatrat, CrakeHunter to force fsck do this on "shutdown -F now" then when it restarts it will reboot
[11:42] <LjL> andre: anyway, either update your drivers or just boot into the old kernel for now
[11:42] <ompaul> shatrat, CrakeHunter make that sudo  "shutdown -F now"
[11:42] <GeekChick|U> shatrat, if you use the bluetooth stack in windows, and not a 3rd party one like broadcom, you would be gold. but im asking about Ubuntu.
[11:42] <andre> LjL:  I've had the drivers working for weeks now.
[11:42] <LjL> andre: err, yeah, and?
[11:42] <codi> i as well had the nvidia drivers working fine until this morning
[11:42] <LjL> andre: you noticed there was a kernel update yesterday, right?
[11:42] <CrakeHunter> ompaul -i would if i could launch the terminal - it crashes every time :/
[11:42] <OuZo> is anyone using a RAID configuration? i am busy reading 'the linux documentation project' s pages but i like to read every page & RAID is further on in the list
[11:42] <LjL> codi, you noticed it too right?
[11:42] <codi> just reran envy and it works again
[11:42] <andre> LjL:  yeah,  I have updated since then
[11:43] <codi> what would be the alternative to the nvidia drivers
[11:43] <LjL> andre: you have updated what since then?
[11:43] <andre> LJL: meaning I updated, and now I can't get into X
[11:43] <codi> and would a kernal update cause any changes to the old kernel to stop working, like support for tv tuner cards
[11:43] <LjL> codi: the open source ones if you don't need 3D, or the proprietary ones -- but the version of them that comes in the official repositories -- otherwise
[11:43] <kitche> codi: no
[11:43] <andre> LJL: so is the issue with the kernel update?
[11:43] <CrakeHunter> ill reboot now, see you later
[11:43] <LjL> andre: of course.
[11:44] <GeekChick|U> Is there anyway to make bluetooth less flaky in Ubuntu? A GUI to manage bluetooth devices like wireless mice, etc...?
[11:44] <andre> LjL: will this get fixed?
[11:44] <Morrowyn> atlanta800, maybe check the ubuntu forums , probably some other person on this earth has the same problem you have iwth ubuntu
[11:44] <codi> doesn't ivtv redo the kernel or something?
[11:44] <LjL> andre: the nvidia drivers include a kernel module. the old one can't work with the new kernel. this is valid in general
[11:44] <Morrowyn> or gdm
[11:44] <Yodude> is there a direct download link for easyubuntu? i mean without passing by the repository
[11:44] <Jrabbit> Hello
[11:44] <atlanta800> ok
[11:44] <LjL> andre, no, it won't be fixed, because it's not a problem with ubuntu, but a problem *with the drivers that you installed*, and those drivers *are not coming from ubuntu*, otherwise they'd have been updated automatically
[11:44] <ompaul> CrakeHunter, so reboot the box and stop it mid boot [ESC]  during grub and then do this - use the on screen commands to edit the command line and add the word single to the end of the line - when it gets to the end of the boot you will be in single user mode - at this stage type ->>  fsck -y
[11:44] <blackest> am i right in thinking there is no way to copy files and ignore the damaged ones ?
[11:45] <Jrabbit> My flash is broken
[11:45] <LjL> andre: so whether you'll get this fixed depends entirely on *where you got those drivers from*
[11:45] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[11:45] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[11:45] <Jrabbit> It doesn't work properly in firefox
[11:45] <Konoko> hello
[11:45] <GeekChick|U> Yodude, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[11:45] <Konoko> may you help me
[11:45] <andre> LJL: dang
[11:45] <codi> and i need 3d, so how do i go about getting rid of the nvidia drivers, but still have full support for opengl applications
[11:45] <andre> LJL:  I need those drivers to run dual monitors!
[11:45] <andre> LJL: anyways...
[11:45] <andre> LJL: how do I boot into the old kernel?
[11:45] <Yodude> nono i need something i can use to download for example using windows and DAP
[11:45] <LjL> andre: well, if you don't know where you obtained them from, i can't guess for you
[11:46] <LjL> andre: just select it at the boot menu. if you don't have a boot menu, press Esc during boot
[11:46] <Yodude> cuz the repositories are too slow
[11:46] <LjL> !nvidia9 | andre
[11:46] <ubotu> andre: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:46] <GeekChick|U> Yodude, http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[11:46] <Morrowyn> change repo url's?
[11:46] <andre> LJL: tx...
[11:46] <ardchoille> !easyubuntu
[11:46] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[11:47] <Yodude> but the direct download link is for an alpha version no?
[11:47] <GeekChick|U> Morrowyn, that does no good today. its <80 KB /sec today. I just updated from 6.10 install CD to latest patches. was well over 200 MB. took 2 hours
[11:47] <LjL> andre: the above, anyway, is a repository that has nvidia drivers which should be updated for the new kernel. you can possibly use it. however, if the drivers you currently have were installed in awkward ways (such as running an installer from the nvidia site), i can't guarantee this won't make the problem worse
[11:47] <GeekChick|U> Yodude, it works just fine
[11:47] <Morrowyn> ok
[11:47] <GeekChick|U> Yodude, i just installed it
[11:47] <codi> to install the newest nvidia drivers look up envy, it worked for me
[11:47] <codi> helps you install and uninstall
[11:48] <andre> I'll check what I can do I'll be back shortly
[11:48] <GeekChick|U> Is there anyway to make bluetooth less flaky in Ubuntu? A GUI to manage bluetooth devices like wireless mice, etc...?
[11:48] <CrakeHunter> hello again, just wanted to tell that i removed the 2 *.bin files in my /var/cashe/apt folder and now update maanger is working again
[11:49] <Jrabbit> How can I remove all plugins trying to use flash?
[11:49] <Jrabbit> 	Flash stoped working but I need to do a clean install of it
[11:49] <matthias> ok so ive been running 48 hours straight reading tutorials and all that stuff trying to get my net gear usb wifi adapter working and i keep getting diffrent errors
[11:49] <Jrabbit> In Firefox.
[11:49] <matthias> can anyone help
[11:49] <Konoko> How can I specify a playlist item of DSP:/dev/soundcard, where soundcard is the name of may audio device? It is /dev/audio. i am sorry but i could not be able to do im trying for 6 days :(
[11:49] <Yodude> why is firefox so slow downloading! it used to be 5-7KB now it's 1-2
[11:49] <Gator> So, anyone got any recommended "fixes" for [/bin/sh: Can't access tty;job control turned off]  ?
[11:50] <GeekChick|U> Yodude, the servers are just slow today in my experience. are you using "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"?
[11:50] <ahave> does ubuntu handle hotswapping pcmcia cards?
[11:50] <cafuego_> ahave: Linux does, yes.
[11:50] <matthias> what does line 144 mean
[11:50] <Yodude> no actually i'm downling something in firefox and it's barely 3KB i ususally get more
[11:50] <ahave> cafuego_, any reason then why ubuntu locked up when i poped in my wifi card?
[11:51] <Gator> Seriously, are there any fixes for /bin/sh: Can't access tty;job control turned off?
[11:51] <cafuego_> ahave: atheros card?
[11:51] <ahave> Yodude, check your network connections?
[11:51] <ahave> cafuego_, no 3com
[11:51] <GeekChick|U> Yodude, not ubuntus fault then. you just have a bad route to the server. you could try an extension like downthemall, which lets you do multiple sessions to same download link -- usually increases speed.
[11:51] <Gator> ...must be a touchy subject
[11:52] <codi> it's never ubuntus fault
[11:52] <ahave> Yodude, or do a bandwidth check
[11:52] <ompaul> codi, it is only the trolls fault
[11:52] <toddobryan> Can someone help me mount a webdav volume?
[11:52] <Yodude> hey am i dreaming or is EasyUbuntu just a 150KB package?
[11:52] <GeekChick|U> Yodude, use dslreports speed test, or do a local one your ISP hosts.
[11:52] <Gator> arghh, nobody even wants to try helping me? >_>
[11:52] <toddobryan> The davfs2 package is a mess.
[11:52] <matthias> me either
[11:52] <mindstate> Gator: whats the problem?
[11:53] <andre> LJL:  I couldn't boot into  the .10 generic kernel, and only the .10.386 one. :(
[11:53] <knoppix> hi
[11:53] <pr0t0type> do i have to delete java 1.5 when i installed 1.6 and 1.6 works ?
[11:53] <Nuute> I would like someones suggestion on the best/cleanest way for me to access my windows machine via my Ubuntu box.
[11:53] <Gator> ./bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off   >_>
[11:53] <cafuego_> Yodude: it's 150Kb of python code
[11:53] <ahave> Nuute, define clean?
[11:53] <Gator> that was to mindstate, btw
[11:53] <toddobryan> pr0t0type: No, you can leave both.
[11:53] <Yodude> what do you mean?
[11:53] <ahave> Nuute, as in network?
[11:53] <Namorao> somebody knows how to use beryl? :-)
[11:54] <Nuute> ok ignore clean, how bout just easy
[11:54] <toddobryan> pr0t0type: You may have to update the defaults so it'll use 1.6.
[11:54] <mindstate> Gator: dude im not sure lol
[11:54] <andre> LJL:  If I install all the new nvidia binaries from this kernel they'll transfer over right?
[11:54] <ahave> Nuute, what are you trying to do?
[11:54] <cafuego_> Yodude: When you use it to install various packages, it fetches those packages from netwoked repositories.
[11:54] <matthias> anyone know much about wifi?
[11:54] <cafuego_> Yodude: as in: they're no already in there
[11:54] <LinX>   what do you guys prefere firefox or konquer
[11:54] <ahave> Nuute, fileshare? or setup a VNC?
[11:54] <LinX>   what do you guys prefere firefox or konquer
[11:54] <Yodude> lol
[11:54] <matthias> firefox
[11:54] <Yodude> i'm back to the repositories then
[11:54] <ardchoille> LinX: Firefox
[11:54] <master5o1> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[11:54] <master5o1> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[11:55] <master5o1> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[11:55] <Nuute> ahave: I am trying to get access to my widows box.  Filesharing and the like.
[11:55] <shatrat> LinX, firefox still, although konqueror is getting pretty good
[11:55] <pr0t0type> toddobryan: can you please tell me how i update ?
[11:55] <master5o1> What does this mean?
[11:55] <cafuego_> ahave: I suggest you boot up in cli mode, then insert the card and see what happens.
[11:55] <lordkeiden> anyone using lightscribe feature in ubuntu? what version (1.4.136 or 1.4.142) do you use?
[11:55] <Nuute> I tried samba and I am about to shoot myself.
[11:55] <LinX>  shatrat: some websites dont work with konquer
[11:55] <Yodude> but it didn't download anything
[11:55] <Gator> =.= Does anyone have any fix for [/bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off]  ?
[11:55] <michaelpo> !medibuntu
[11:55] <toddobryan> pr0t0type: run sudo update-alternatives --config java in the terminal.
[11:55] <GeekChick|U> Is there anyway to make bluetooth less flaky in Ubuntu? A GUI to manage bluetooth devices like wireless mice, etc...?
[11:55] <shatrat> LinX, some websites dont work in anything.
[11:55] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[11:55] <cafuego_> ahave: My madwifi locks up my laptop, as it crashes the kernel. Older cards need to have pcmcia configured on ym mmachine, or the lock thr system too...
[11:55] <toddobryan> pr0t0type: It will let you pick the default.
[11:55] <ahave> Nuute, i just set mine up 10 mins afo. wasnt the least bit hard. Places>Network Servers
[11:56] <matthias> line 144 errors
[11:56] <matthias> ?????
[11:56] <michaelpo> !fluxbuntu
[11:56] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[11:56] <ahave> cafuego_, how do i go about doing that then? link?
[11:56] <Gator> =.= Does anyone have any fix for [/bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off]  ? >_>
[11:56] <LjL> andre: no they won't, actually what you're saying doesn't make much sense to me. "transfer"? anyway, how could you not boot to -10? no menu entry?
[11:56] <pr0t0type> worked thx a lot toddobryan
[11:56] <Morrowyn> Nuute,   use smb://ipadress/sharename  in nautilus or so, or just browse the windows network
[11:56] <cafuego_> ahave: Boot up, ctrl-alt-F1
[11:56] <Nuute> ahave: I can see a windows network but cannot access it.  Can ping it but no dice through Gui...
[11:56] <earthen> anyone having the problem with gnome crashing when shutting down?
[11:56] <michaelpo> !xubuntu
[11:56] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:56] <toddobryan> pr0t0type: np
[11:57] <CoRnJuLiOx> can anyone help me? i'm not getting any sound in zsnes and i can't figure out how to fix it (its not readily obvious)
[11:57] <mindstate> xbuntu = uber
[11:57] <ahave> Nuute, try hitting the refresh button
[11:57] <ahave> Nuute: for some reason that works for me
[11:57] <CrakeHunter> how can i make live streaming from the internet work? (mp3)? im using the music box as musci player
[11:57] <matthias> newbie here... i need help
[11:57] <CrakeHunter> when i try www.di.fm for example, it shows the links in musicbox but doesnt play
[11:57] <ahave> Nuute: hit the refresh button until the icon for mshome (or whatever it is) changes to a comp on a network and not a blank page image
[11:58] <Nuute> ahave :  again no dice.
[11:58] <ahave> Nuute, try again? it takes 5 refreshes sometimes...
[11:58] <Nuute> I got that far but it just looped back to the linux box.  Never seen this before.
[11:58] <ahave> hmm
[11:58] <ahave> idk then
[11:58] <matthias> ignoring me helps too
[11:58] <CrakeHunter> well in different words.. what is the decoder for mp3 and how do i install it?
[11:58] <ahave> refresh trick worked for me :)
[11:58] <mackinac> !help
[11:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:58] <andre> LjL:  no, I tried to boot into .10, but couldn't get into X  I had options for .10, .10 generic and .10 386.  the .11 only has the generic option
[11:59] <Nuute> I used to be able to move freely between both comps from either direction.  Not anymore, I don't get it.
[11:59] <earthen> mackinac,  helps if you tell people your problem
[11:59] <andre> LjL:  right now  I'm in the .10 386 boot option
[11:59] <toddobryan> Anybody have any luck with mounting davfs filesystems?
[11:59] <andre> LjL:  obviously I'm in X
[11:59] <ahave> speaking of mp3.. is there a winamp equalvient for linux? (winamp roxs on windows box)
[11:59] <LjL> andre: ok but i cannot quite understand why 10 -generic wouldn't work
[11:59] <barbarella> Gator:what did you do before you get this?
[11:59] <Morrowyn> xmms
[11:59] <Nuute> open for more suggestions here.  Could it be something else I am not privy too on the windows side?
[11:59] <earthen> ahave,  xmms
[11:59] <mackinac> by prefacing my query with a "!" i ask for bot help :)
[12:00] <andre> LjL:  beats me...
[12:00] <toddobryan> ahave: I'm a big fan of Amarok. It's KDE, but runs great in Gnome, too.
[12:00] <Morrowyn> you can use the winamp skins in it, but only the classic ones
[12:00] <matthias> !line 144
[12:00] <Morrowyn> iirc
[12:00] <shatrat> ahave, lots of people like XMMS, I hate the gui though.  There are more media players available than you can shake a stick at. Just look through synaptic
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about line 144 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Morrowyn> uhuh, i have to agree with shatrat
[12:00] <mindstate> shatrat: yeah i agree ..i use bmp now
[12:00] <Morrowyn> i like the rythmbox though
[12:00] <andre> LjL:  sigh,  earlier, by transfer I meant, Can I install the new nvidia drivers from .10 and expect them to work for .11
[12:01] <matthias> HI!
[12:01] <Gator> =.= Does anyone have any fix for [/bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off]  ?