| aim_nano | Anyone play World of Warcraft on Xubuntu? | 12:29 |
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| maxamillion | Berg-help: 7.10 is Feisty Fawn | 12:29 |
| aim_nano | That's my end goal. | 12:29 |
| aim_nano | :) | 12:29 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: i have not, but there are tutorials that I know of to make it work | 12:29 |
| Berg-help | oh | 12:29 |
| Berg-help | then I have 7.1 | 12:29 |
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| aim_nano | I installed the first part last night. | 12:29 |
| Berg-help | I downloaded the latest one | 12:30 |
| Berg-help | either way nothing is working | 12:30 |
| aim_nano | However there is an expansion and also I use a bunch of mods. | 12:30 |
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| maxamillion | Berg-help: no, you have 7.10 ... the trailing zero is significant, the version number is seven.ten | 12:30 |
| Berg-help | yeah thanks for correcting me | 12:30 |
| Berg-help | I know | 12:30 |
| maxamillion | no worries :) | 12:30 |
| aim_nano | I was thinking of just mounting my NTFS partition and playing it off that once I got my graphics drivers installed...not sure if it would lag though. | 12:30 |
| Berg-help | why cant things just work? | 12:30 |
| Berg-help | any reason why it won't boot? | 12:31 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: it wouldn't work, you would have to install WoW on wine, cedega, or crossover | 12:31 |
| aim_nano | I used wine to install it last night, and loaded it. | 12:31 |
| aim_nano | But wtihout my graphics drivers installed, it was insanely laggy. | 12:31 |
| Berg-help | nvm Maximilion..I have edgy eft which is 6.1 | 12:31 |
| maxamillion | ah, yeah ... graphics drivers tend to be key | 12:31 |
| Berg-help | I still need help though | 12:31 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: with? | 12:31 |
| Berg-help | it won;t load | 12:32 |
| Berg-help | I boot up | 12:32 |
| Berg-help | the little mouse comes and the loading bar shows up | 12:32 |
| Berg-help | once that is done all I get is black | 12:32 |
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| Berg-help | and this is all on an old computer from 2001 that used to run windows 98 | 12:33 |
| grazie | maxamillion: i thought feisty was at 7.04? | 12:34 |
| Berg-help | -_- | 12:34 |
| maxamillion | grazie: lol, you're right :D | 12:34 |
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| maxamillion | 7.10 will be feisty+1 | 12:34 |
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| Berg-help | anyone here have a reason or an alternate solution? | 12:35 |
| grazie | Berg-help: maybe worth trying the vesa driver... | 12:36 |
| Berg-help | vesa what? | 12:36 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: when the screen goes black, if you do ctrl+alt+f1 do you get a command line login prompt? | 12:37 |
| Berg-help | lemme check | 12:38 |
| Berg-help | fl | 12:39 |
| grazie | Berg-help: fl? | 12:40 |
| Berg-help | NOTHING | 12:40 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: F1 ... the function at the top of your keyboard | 12:40 |
| Berg-help | ah | 12:40 |
| maxamillion | !caps | 12:40 |
| ubotu | PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. | 12:40 |
| Berg-help | capls lock accidentally | 12:40 |
| Berg-help | caps | 12:40 |
| maxamillion | ;) | 12:40 |
| maxamillion | just my job | 12:41 |
| Berg-help | I only have one keyboard and monitor so I constantly have to switch | 12:41 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: ewwww, you need a KVM switch | 12:41 |
| grazie | best thing since sliced bread! | 12:41 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Or another keyboard and monitor. | 12:41 |
| Berg-help | nothing | 12:42 |
| maxamillion | PuMpErNiCkLe: lol, either or would suffice | 12:42 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | :) | 12:42 |
| Berg-help | F1 isnt working | 12:42 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: control+alt+F1 did nothing? | 12:42 |
| Berg-help | yeah | 12:42 |
| maxamillion | :( | 12:42 |
| maxamillion | sounds rather borked .... | 12:43 |
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| Berg-help | are there any alternatives? | 12:43 |
| Berg-help | I really just want something that can run a shoutcast server and use skype | 12:43 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: uhmmm... did you install with the live cd or alternate install image? | 12:43 |
| Berg-help | I tried the desktop CD but that didnt work so i used the application one | 12:44 |
| aim_nano | are you guys manually prefixing your responses with the name of the person folllow by a : | 12:44 |
| aim_nano | or is it a mod / hotkey / shortcut | 12:44 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: how didn't the desktop cd work? | 12:44 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: describe what happened | 12:45 |
| grazie | aim_nano: type in the first few letter and then <tab> | 12:45 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: ... nvm, grazie beat me to it | 12:45 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | aim_nano: ... nvm maxamillion beat me to it | 12:45 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: its a standard feature of almost _every_ irc client you will find | 12:45 |
| aim_nano | maxamillion, :) | 12:46 |
| aim_nano | er | 12:46 |
| grazie | aim_nano: like bash shell | 12:46 |
| aim_nano | did it work? | 12:46 |
| grazie | aim_nano: no | 12:46 |
| aim_nano | it automatically puts their name and inserts a comma | 12:46 |
| Berg-help | well the desktop CD didnt work because the same thing ahppened | 12:46 |
| Berg-help | happened | 12:46 |
| aim_nano | rather than a colon | 12:46 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: ohhh, you using xchat? | 12:46 |
| Berg-help | then I was told to use the application CD and I installed it | 12:46 |
| aim_nano | yessir | 12:46 |
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| maxamillion | aim_nano: its in the preferences somewhere, you can tell it to use a colon | 12:47 |
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| aim_nano | maxamillion: test | 12:47 |
| aim_nano | :) | 12:47 |
| maxamillion | :) | 12:47 |
| grazie | :) | 12:47 |
| Berg-help | I am using the java client but I normally use chatzilla | 12:47 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: once you start becomming a command line junkie you should check out irssi ;) ... its my favorite | 12:48 |
| aim_nano | I've always practically preferred using my keyboard over my mouse...it's more efficient. | 12:49 |
| Berg-help | it is and it is not at the same time | 12:49 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: yup :) | 12:50 |
| aim_nano | When my hands are on the keyboard, I don't want to move them to the mouse and back and forth :\ | 12:50 |
| Berg-help | but can you guys suggest an alternative light weight linux desktop? | 12:50 |
| aim_nano | So I run programs in windows via 'command line' if you will. | 12:50 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: other than Xfce? | 12:50 |
| aim_nano | Start > run. | 12:50 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: lol ... yeah.... about that | 12:50 |
| Berg-help | xubuntu or w/e ueah | 12:50 |
| Berg-help | I remember there was a freeware program for windows that added a little command line in the bottom right | 12:51 |
| maxamillion | Berg-help: you want something lighter than xfce? ... www.fluxbuntu.org might be more your taste | 12:51 |
| Berg-help | mae it easy to get to everything and let you create shortcuts | 12:51 |
| aim_nano | I don't even click start > run. I hit [Windows Key] + R | 12:51 |
| aim_nano | lol | 12:51 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: you should get cygwin ... the power of linux on a windows machine (kinda) | 12:51 |
| aim_nano | I've heard of it. | 12:51 |
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| aim_nano | I just think Vista coming out...it's retarded how much of your system resources are consumed by your OS. | 12:52 |
| aim_nano | I like linux, but Gentoo is impractically complicated. | 12:52 |
| aim_nano | So I found ubuntu. | 12:52 |
| aim_nano | Though it's like 'newb linux' imo - I like it's elegant simplicity. | 12:52 |
| aim_nano | It is why I chose Xubuntu over Ubuntu. | 12:52 |
| Berg-help | fluxbuntu doesnt look like it has the support I need | 12:52 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: yeah, i've been a debian user for years ... i now run Xubuntu on my desktops because i am lazy and it just works ... debian is awesome and if the revolution ever came i would format my hard drive and be back on debian in a second, but i ran xfce on debian anyways and ubuntu is debian based so its almost the same thing, just a little easier | 12:54 |
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| Berg | arg | 12:54 |
| Berg | well | 12:54 |
| Berg | guess I gotta give up on the whole linux on the old piece of junk | 12:54 |
| Berg | :( | 12:54 |
| aim_nano | Yeah, I have a good friend running Debian. He says he's tried other distro's but Debian is what he keeps going back to. | 12:54 |
| maxamillion | Berg: don't give up.... www.damnsmalllinux.org <-- go there and see if that will run (its just a live cd, but it will help provide info to get a working installation on the machine) | 12:55 |
| Berg | when you say live CD what does that mean exactly? | 12:56 |
| Berg | I kinda had to format so now I have no OS on that POS | 12:56 |
| maxamillion | Berg: it runs off the cd in ram ... no need to install | 12:56 |
| Berg | so should I burn it to a CD and run it? | 12:56 |
| maxamillion | Berg: yeah, it doesn't need to install ... you could actually take the hard drive out of the computer and the live cd would still run on it | 12:56 |
| maxamillion | Berg: yes | 12:57 |
| maxamillion | i have to go ... getting off work | 12:57 |
| aim_nano | maxamillion: Later. | 12:57 |
| Berg | wow | 12:57 |
| Berg | nice | 12:57 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: bye bye | 12:57 |
| maxamillion | i'll be around later on tonight | 12:58 |
| Berg | maybe in a year everything will be nice in the linux world | 12:58 |
| Berg | atleast it can't get worse | 12:59 |
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| aim_nano | does sudo apt-get dist-update basically reinstal? | 01:02 |
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| grazie | aim_nano: no it updates packages | 01:05 |
| aim_nano | ok it finished | 01:05 |
| aim_nano | i'm trying reinstalling nvidia's drivers again | 01:05 |
| aim_nano | via the ubuntuguide.org's guide | 01:05 |
| grazie | aim_nano: did you get a new kernel? | 01:05 |
| aim_nano | i don't know, did i? | 01:06 |
| aim_nano | lol | 01:06 |
| aim_nano | i did sudo apt-get dist-update and it downloaded/installed for about 45 minutes | 01:06 |
| aim_nano | so i assume so | 01:06 |
| grazie | aim_nano: like I said before you don't usually need to reboot linux unless you've got a new kernel | 01:07 |
| aim_nano | so i should reboot before attempting the driver install? | 01:07 |
| grazie | aim_nano: we'll just assume you've got a new kernel, so do a reboot yes | 01:07 |
| aim_nano | be right back | 01:07 |
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| LordGamer | hi all | 01:12 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | hi you | 01:14 |
| LordGamer | anyone? | 01:14 |
| LordGamer | ah | 01:14 |
| LordGamer | I got the ATI drivers installed I think but I cant get my second monitor to work any ideas? | 01:14 |
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| aim_nano | same thing | 01:15 |
| aim_nano | apparently my nvidia kernel is an older version that the x one or soemthing | 01:15 |
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| maxamillion | well ... i'm home now | 01:15 |
| aim_nano | lol | 01:15 |
| aim_nano | i just restarted after trying to reinstall the nvidia drivers | 01:16 |
| grazie | aim_nano: there's been kernel update problems in the last day or two...it would explain this | 01:16 |
| drx0drx | i just did a sudo command and it asked for a password & I gave it root password and it wants something else.... what does it want? | 01:16 |
| aim_nano | and basically it's saying the nvidia kernel version doesn't match the x kernel version | 01:16 |
| maxamillion | drx0drx: your password | 01:16 |
| aim_nano | one is like 1.8XX and one is 1.9XX or something. | 01:16 |
| aim_nano | maybe | 01:16 |
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| grazie | aim_nano: more than maybe | 01:17 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: nvidia kernel version and x kernel version? ... i think your terminology might be a little off | 01:17 |
| aim_nano | it said | 01:17 |
| aim_nano | the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-XXXX but this x module has the version 1.0-9746 | 01:17 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: yes, those would be modules for the kernel ... there is only 1 kernel | 01:18 |
| aim_nano | i know | 01:18 |
| maxamillion | oh ok .. :) | 01:18 |
| maxamillion | sorry, i just mis-understood | 01:18 |
| aim_nano | i was tyring to type it from memory | 01:18 |
| aim_nano | lol | 01:19 |
| maxamillion | no worries | 01:19 |
| aim_nano | not giving much thought to what i was actually typing :X | 01:19 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: we normally get a substantial amount of linux first timers in here so i try to clarify when possible | 01:19 |
| aim_nano | Fair enough. | 01:20 |
| aim_nano | I'm a xubuntu first timer. | 01:20 |
| LordGamer | any help for me? :P | 01:20 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: then welcome to our humble community :) | 01:20 |
| maxamillion | LordGamer: help with? | 01:21 |
| LordGamer | I got the ATI drivers installed I think but I cant get my second monitor to work any ideas? | 01:21 |
| aim_nano | Lucky :\ | 01:21 |
| grazie | aim_nano: in terminal 'grep upgrade /var/log/dpkg.log' and pastebin the output | 01:22 |
| maxamillion | LordGamer: oh yeah, with the two different graphics cards? | 01:22 |
| LordGamer | no two DVI outputs | 01:23 |
| maxamillion | LordGamer: oh ... lemme get you a link | 01:23 |
| LordGamer | ok :) | 01:23 |
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| spasticteapot | Hello! | 01:23 |
| spasticteapot | Does anyone know how to run .JNLP files? | 01:23 |
| maxamillion | LordGamer: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxAndDualMonitors.html | 01:23 |
| spasticteapot | I think it's a Java thing. | 01:24 |
| maxamillion | spasticteapot: never heard of it | 01:24 |
| spasticteapot | Carp. | 01:24 |
| maxamillion | spasticteapot: i don't think that's java .... | 01:24 |
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| spasticteapot | What is it? | 01:24 |
| spasticteapot | I'm trying to run ANTSP2P, and I downloaded a JNLP. | 01:24 |
| LordGamer | so maxamillion do I have to uninstall and start over? | 01:25 |
| maxamillion | LordGamer: no | 01:25 |
| maxamillion | LordGamer: you just edit the xorg.conf per the tutorial | 01:25 |
| LordGamer | ah ok | 01:26 |
| aim_nano | I read a forum where I guy had the same error and posted that he removed linux-restricted-modules. | 01:26 |
| aim_nano | make any sense max? :X | 01:26 |
| maxamillion | LordGamer: if you have the drivers in place, all that is left to do is edit xorg.conf to utilize the driver's dual monitor support | 01:26 |
| LordGamer | ok cool | 01:26 |
| LordGamer | I will see how it goes | 01:26 |
| spasticteapot | How do I get Sun's java instead of the wacky Ubuntu java? | 01:26 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: not really, but then again ... ubuntu has oddities (compared to debian that is) | 01:26 |
| maxamillion | spasticteapot: it's not ubuntu java ... its actually gcj/gij the gnu java implementation | 01:27 |
| maxamillion | spasticteapot: lemme get you a link | 01:27 |
| spasticteapot | Ah. | 01:27 |
| spasticteapot | I was referring to "free" java, or whatever Java is included. | 01:28 |
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| grazie | aim_nano: the repo problem will be sorted in the next few days, I suggest you try again later | 01:28 |
| maxamillion | spasticteapot: yeah ... they just alias the command "java" to gcj | 01:29 |
| spasticteapot | Gruh? | 01:29 |
| grazie | aim_nano: the versions of linux-image, linux-headers and linux-restricted-modules and the drivers all need to be matched | 01:29 |
| maxamillion | spasticteapot: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Java_Development_Kit_.28JDK.29_v5.0 <---follow that link but when told to do "sudo gedit <whatever>" instead type "gksudo mousepad <whatever>" (where <whatever> is what the tutorial tells you to enter) because you are on xubuntu and not ubuntu | 01:30 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: a horribly long thread about the latest kernel update and how it is fragging systems all over the place ... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 | 01:31 |
| spasticteapot | Eh...I'll stick with good 'ol "Sudo Nano". | 01:31 |
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| maxamillion | spasticteapot: that will suffice just as well ... i normally just point users to mousepad because alot of people seem to like guis .... | 01:34 |
| aim_nano | maxamillion: thanks | 01:34 |
| spasticteapot | I figure if I'm going to learn something, it should work on every Linux distro used today. | 01:34 |
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| spasticteapot | Plus, it still works if I accidentally disable X-windows.... | 01:35 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: no problem :) | 01:35 |
| spasticteapot | ....again. | 01:35 |
| maxamillion | spasticteapot: :P | 01:35 |
| spasticteapot | Any chance anyone here is good with Makefiles? | 01:35 |
| spasticteapot | Or likes good speakers? | 01:35 |
| spasticteapot | (The two are, bizzarely enough, related.) | 01:36 |
| cheatersrealm | I like good speakers | 01:36 |
| spasticteapot | Excellent. | 01:36 |
| spasticteapot | There's a program called QTspeakerdesigner that will let you design (big surprise) speakers. | 01:36 |
| cheatersrealm | what kind of speakers are we talking? | 01:36 |
| cheatersrealm | ahh | 01:36 |
| spasticteapot | It's almost as good as some $300 software packages, except it's free. | 01:36 |
| cheatersrealm | meat | 01:36 |
| cheatersrealm | neat* | 01:36 |
| spasticteapot | Home audio. Of course, it will work for car subs too, and you can (with a little work) set it up for car use. | 01:37 |
| spasticteapot | Coincidentally, an average pair of $500 speakers often uses $200 worth of parts. | 01:38 |
| spasticteapot | (The trick is modelling them in CAD for proper performance.) | 01:38 |
| cheatersrealm | yeah | 01:38 |
| cheatersrealm | I'm no good with Makefiles though | 01:38 |
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| maxamillion | spasticteapot: i don't bother with anything written in QT | 01:38 |
| aim_nano | maxamillion: Can you repost that link? | 01:39 |
| spasticteapot | cheatersrealm: Check out zaphaudio.com for some neat-0 stuff. Or, go to #diyaudio on the Rizon IRC server. | 01:39 |
| spasticteapot | maxamillion: Oh, well. | 01:39 |
| spasticteapot | I'm guessing the program's something of a kludge anywho, albiet a $300 kludge. | 01:39 |
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| aim_nano | maxamillion: Can you repost that link? | 01:40 |
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| maxamillion | aim_nano: which one? | 01:42 |
| aim_nano | the long forum post | 01:42 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: oh yeah ... just a moment | 01:44 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408 | 01:44 |
| aim_nano | maxamillion: Thank you. | 01:44 |
| maxamillion | aim_nano: anytime :) | 01:45 |
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| aim_nano | maxamillion: So I guess as they say I'll wait a few days or a week, and sit back and enjoy some popcorn. | 01:52 |
| aim_nano | maxamillion: Try the whole thing over in a few days, it should work normally. | 01:52 |
| aim_nano | Talk to you folks later...I've got some WoW to play. | 01:53 |
| aim_nano | :) | 01:53 |
| maxamillion | heh ... WoW ... its like digital drugs | 01:53 |
| spasticteapot | cheatersrealm: If you're interested in some DIY speaker stuff, I can forward you to a .deb of Gspeakers, and some other useful websites. | 01:53 |
| spasticteapot | Hi-fi and ubuntu - it's like peanut butter cups! | 01:54 |
| spasticteapot | Except without the fattening qualities. | 01:54 |
| spasticteapot | DIET peanut-butter cups. | 01:54 |
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| spasticteapot | WoW..eh. | 01:56 |
| spasticteapot | I'll stick to pen-and-paper. | 01:56 |
| spasticteapot | Shadowrun has far fewer 'sploitz. | 01:56 |
| spasticteapot | D&D has some big ones, though... | 01:56 |
| spasticteapot | I wonder what would happen if I set my nickname as pun-pun/ | 01:56 |
| spasticteapot | ? | 01:56 |
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| fxr_ | hi, im reinstalling my ubuntu soon.. to get rid of windows & ntfs partitions & install new graphics card.. i was wondering if there is any documention /tips on backing up some of my config files somewhere so i can restore things more easily? | 02:06 |
| TheSheep | fxr_: just copy your home directory somewhere | 02:07 |
| TheSheep | fxr_: if you have it on a separate partition, then just don't delete it during installation | 02:08 |
| TheSheep | fxr_: besides, you can install new graphics card and/or remove partitions without reinstalation | 02:08 |
| fxr_ | ok..... u c, i wanna move my ubuntu install from one HDD to another.. | 02:09 |
| TheSheep | ah | 02:10 |
| cheatersrealm | fxr_: are the drives the same size? | 02:10 |
| TheSheep | well, you can do it, but I guess it will be as fast as reinstallation | 02:10 |
| TheSheep | and since installation is automatized... :) | 02:10 |
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| fxr_ | no, thet arnt the same size.. | 02:11 |
| fxr_ | i guess i could save my package list somewhere as well.. | 02:12 |
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| fxr_ | i sudo apt-get them all.. or is that practical? | 02:12 |
| Ins|de | hi there! i have a little question abount installing xubuntu, is it possible install xubuntu without formating the partition, can i install xubuntu without re-formating filesystem ? | 02:12 |
| grazie | fxr_: I've used 'sudo cp -a <source> <destination>' many times | 02:13 |
| grazie | Ins|de: why would you want to? | 02:14 |
| TheSheep | grazie: I'd use tar to preserve rights and wonership :) | 02:15 |
| grazie | TheSheep: yeah right | 02:15 |
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| fxr_ | grazie i dont see what ur getting at there... could i use a live disk or something & c | 02:15 |
| fxr_ | could i use a live cd or something a copy between partitions that way? | 02:16 |
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| Ins|de | grazie, because my filesystem was damaged, and i need to reintall the system, but i could restore some important directories... and i didnt want that it would be destroyied during installation... | 02:16 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: restore them before the installation | 02:16 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: if you don't format the filesystem, it will still be damaged | 02:17 |
| Ins|de | TheSheep, i had restored filesystem, and i have important data in lost+found | 02:17 |
| Ins|de | if i install xubuntu it would be lost, right ? | 02:17 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: I guess so, just boot the livecd and copy it somewhere | 02:18 |
| Ins|de | dont have space enough.. :S | 02:18 |
| Ins|de | damn.. | 02:18 |
| grazie | Ins|de: you have a problem then | 02:19 |
| TheSheep | grazie: not really | 02:19 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: you can install it without formatting the filesystem | 02:19 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: I'm not sure where is the option in the installer | 02:19 |
| grazie | TheSheep: important data should always backed up before installing... | 02:19 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: I'd however move all the files to some direcotry before that, so that the old files won't mess up your new install | 02:19 |
| Ins|de | anyway.. before formating partitions i would be advised, right ? | 02:20 |
| TheSheep | grazie: of course, but he has no space for that | 02:20 |
| Ins|de | TheSheep, yeah, i ould do that | 02:20 |
| fxr_ | no i havent | 02:20 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: I think that there is a checkbox somewhere or similar option in the partition editor telling whether to format a partition or not | 02:20 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: just be careful about it | 02:20 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: and don't select "partition automatically" ;) | 02:21 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: I'd still make a backup -- maybe you could burn it on a cd or something | 02:21 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: from the livecd | 02:21 |
| Ins|de | ah! just a question, burning it on a cdrom all files would lose permissions, right ? | 02:22 |
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| TheSheep | Ins|de: no if you enable the rock-ridge extensions | 02:23 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: in the advanced options | 02:23 |
| TheSheep | Ins|de: or if you tar them before burning | 02:23 |
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| Ins|de | hmm.. tar!! that's the way! :) | 02:24 |
| Ins|de | i've downloaded alternate install cd, i'm going to search for such option | 02:24 |
| TheSheep | of course, tar was created *specifically* for backups | 02:24 |
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| Torist | on the alternate install cd, how do you eject the cd mid install? | 02:29 |
| Torist | it says its scratched and i wanna replace the CD | 02:29 |
| TheSheep | Torist: I guess you need to reboot | 02:31 |
| TheSheep | Torist: the cd is mounted and there are processes running in the mounted directory, so you canot unmount it | 02:31 |
| Torist | paper-clip time when its idle | 02:31 |
| Ins|de | TheSheep, i'll try that checkbox, but i'm afraid! :S https://customisinglife.wordpress.com/files/2006/10/xubuntu-partition-mounting.png | 02:32 |
| TheSheep | Torist: I woudn't recommend that, you'll scratch the lens | 02:32 |
| Torist | i'll wait till spin down | 02:32 |
| Torist | its 52x | 02:32 |
| TheSheep | Torist: normally you'd only do it on powered off drive | 02:32 |
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| Torist | i've rebooted 10x already with about 10 cds | 02:33 |
| Torist | all say the CD isn't fully there, tried burning different speeds, i think its the CDs | 02:33 |
| Torist | or the alt cd is not using the internet to download packages like it should be | 02:33 |
| TheSheep | Torist: there is an option to check the checksum in the boot menu | 02:33 |
| Torist | why aren't all ubuntu's downloaded over a torrent to install on the computer? | 02:34 |
| TheSheep | Torist: alt cd doesn't use internet to download packages | 02:34 |
| Torist | it doesn't load the checksum | 02:34 |
| Torist | if the kernel is corrupt | 02:34 |
| Torist | :<> | 02:34 |
| TheSheep | Torist: you're confusing it with the mini cd | 02:34 |
| TheSheep | !minicd | 02:34 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about minicd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 02:34 |
| Torist | ubuntu alt 6.06 is the only version that is actually booting, though it says not all packages are on the CD fully | 02:34 |
| TheSheep | !install | 02:34 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues | 02:34 |
| TheSheep | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD <-- the minimal cd | 02:35 |
| Torist | tried xubuntu, thats a minimalist, esp when installing server | 02:35 |
| Torist | same applies | 02:35 |
| Torist | i need to get the kernel installed before apt-geting the rest | 02:36 |
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| Torist | anyone know how to get the help command for irssi? | 02:40 |
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| Torist | while in this channel? | 02:40 |
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| Kirby | Hello, I've just installed Xubuntu on a new computer a few days ago. Unfortunately I can't get it connected to the internet. How can I get the install disk to act as a cd repository? | 02:41 |
| Sharn | Hello | 02:41 |
| Sharn | Kirby: Did you turn them off in the sources.list? | 02:41 |
| TheSheep | Kirby: the cd from which you installed should contain many packages | 02:41 |
| TheSheep | Kirby: there is also a dvd that contains most everything | 02:41 |
| Torist | that would be cool if there was a website that let you burn a cd of all the repositories you wanted | 02:42 |
| Kirby | Yes it should, and I've got it recognized by synaptic, but I can't seem to get programs to install from there. | 02:42 |
| TheSheep | Torist: you can get the packages from packages.ubuntu.com | 02:42 |
| cellofellow | I have the DVD and occasionally I install things from it, but not most stuff. | 02:42 |
| Sharn | Kirby: Does it give any sort of error? | 02:42 |
| Torist | yeah, but like an interactive java website that let you drag them to the cd, and let you burn them | 02:42 |
| Kirby | How can I figgure out which packages are on the cd. | 02:42 |
| cellofellow | TheSheep: how? I try to download the deb files from there but I can't find the link. I have to go trudging through archive.ubuntu.com | 02:42 |
| Kirby | Sharn: not really, it keeps on saying that I sshould connect to the internet. | 02:43 |
| TheSheep | Kirby: disable all the rest of repositories | 02:43 |
| TheSheep | Kirby: then only the ones from cd should be displayed | 02:43 |
| Kirby | Will do, brb. | 02:43 |
| Sharn | Yeah, good idea. You know how? | 02:43 |
| TheSheep | cellofellow: you need to click on the architecture | 02:43 |
| TheSheep | cellofellow: then choose a mirror | 02:43 |
| cellofellow | oh, cool | 02:43 |
| cellofellow | I may put together a CD or a DVD full of favorite package for a friend. | 02:44 |
| Sharn | I have my own question. What are like the minimal reqs to have a useable Xubuntu running? I'm getting an old company laptop and i'm trying to decide between Debian and Xubuntu. | 02:44 |
| Torist | 64 MB for the alt cd on 6.06 | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | prolly about 300Mhz and 64MB ram. | 02:45 |
| Sharn | Ahhh. Is the Edgy, cellofellow? | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | I have 450Mhz and 319MB ram and Kubuntu runs OK, but Xubuntu much better. | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | Yess. | 02:45 |
| cellofellow | or, never mind | 02:45 |
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| Torist | is there any programs you recommend to kill to make xubuntu go faster? | 02:46 |
| Torist | *are there | 02:46 |
| cellofellow | I have edgy, dunno if edgy would run one 300Mhz cause such a chip may need the 386 kernel instead of the generic. | 02:46 |
| cellofellow | Sylpheed instead of Thunderbird. | 02:46 |
| Sharn | Hmmm. Ok. I don't know the specs on it yet, but it should be better than that. I prefer the minimal install anyhow. | 02:46 |
| cellofellow | and keep thinks simple | 02:46 |
| cellofellow | stick to non-GNOME GTK apps. | 02:46 |
| Torist | anyone know how to get the help command for irssi? | 02:47 |
| Sharn | I don't like mail clients at all, personally. Love my Hotmail. :P | 02:47 |
| Torist | "/help" doesn't work | 02:47 |
| Sharn | Uhm.. | 02:47 |
| cellofellow | Gmail is my favorite. | 02:47 |
| Sharn | man irssi? | 02:47 |
| Torist | im in it now lol | 02:47 |
| Torist | so that won't work | 02:47 |
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| Sharn | Or is it irssi man? I'm not sure. :P | 02:47 |
| cellofellow | you have screen running? | 02:47 |
| cellofellow | man irssi | 02:47 |
| cellofellow | hey Jester45! | 02:47 |
| Jester45 | IM BACk | 02:48 |
| Torist | none work while in this channel | 02:48 |
| cellofellow | /help works, you just have to be in one of the non-channel windows | 02:48 |
| Sharn | Ooooh. I thought it was a package. Rofl. | 02:48 |
| Jester45 | Hey cellofellow i got ftp working but... its links to wrong folder :( | 02:48 |
| Torist | darn | 02:48 |
| cellofellow | let me look at it. | 02:48 |
| Torist | when you need /help it should be everywhere | 02:48 |
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| Kirby | I think I have the other repositories turned off. I went into Software sources, in the tab: 'ubuntu 6.10' I unchecked all the boxes under internet. | 02:49 |
| Sharn | ./help works fine for me.. | 02:49 |
| Kirby | But it still doesn't seem to be working. | 02:49 |
| cellofellow | Kirby: did you apt-get update? | 02:49 |
| Kirby | I don't think so, I haven't had a chance to mess around int the terminal. | 02:49 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: boy have i had a week | 02:49 |
| Sharn | Kirby: You may also need to do it manually. I doubt it, but. | 02:49 |
| Torist | ./help | 02:49 |
| Kirby | Alright | 02:50 |
| Sharn | No, I jsut put the period there to tell you. :P | 02:50 |
| Torist | nope, w/ and w/o the "." doesn't work | 02:50 |
| Sharn | In this channel, /help works for me. | 02:50 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: ftp://jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/ in firefox didn't work. | 02:50 |
| Torist | try using issri | 02:50 |
| cellofellow | trying gFTP | 02:50 |
| Torist | doesn't work for me for some reason | 02:50 |
| Torist | gFTP is unstable | 02:50 |
| Torist | wait, thats KFTPGrabber | 02:51 |
| Torist | gFTP doesn't support TLS | 02:51 |
| Jester45 | humm | 02:51 |
| TheSheep | Kirby: click 'update' | 02:51 |
| Sharn | Hmmm. I'll just be quiet since I don't know what 'm talking about. xD | 02:51 |
| cellofellow | gFTP does SSH which works fo me | 02:51 |
| Torist | SSH isn't TLS | 02:51 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: the http is gone also... maybe the ip address needs to update? | 02:51 |
| cellofellow | maybe | 02:51 |
| cellofellow | is ddclient running? | 02:51 |
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| Kirby | I did it in the command line and it seems to have worked. What exactally did that update? | 02:52 |
| Torist | why isn't the apt-get torrentized? | 02:52 |
| Torist | that way it would never go down or cost money to host | 02:52 |
| cellofellow | Kirby: the internal data cache | 02:52 |
| cellofellow | local pakcage cache rather | 02:52 |
| Sharn | That's an awesome idea, Torist. | 02:52 |
| Kirby | Cellophello: I'm sorry I don't know what that does/mean. | 02:52 |
| cellofellow | just open aptitude or synaptic and see how few packages there are now. | 02:53 |
| Jester45 | Torist: because its not as stable as a direct dl | 02:53 |
| Sharn | Kirby: Basically, your computer keeps a list of the packages you can download/install. | 02:53 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: working now | 02:53 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: I see az.log, that's it | 02:53 |
| Sharn | And apt-get update just updates that. So Xubuntu knows what it can download. | 02:54 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: http working too | 02:54 |
| Sharn | Or whatever distro you're runnign. | 02:54 |
| Kirby | It didn't change anything in the 'add/remove applications' | 02:54 |
| TheSheep | Kirby: ah, how about synaptic? | 02:54 |
| cellofellow | try synaptic or aptitude. Add/Remove Apps is sort of lame. | 02:55 |
| Jester45 | cellofellow: yes well the default is the /home/ftp folder | 02:55 |
| Kirby | let me open it up... | 02:55 |
| cellofellow | Jester45: what FTP server? | 02:55 |
| Jester45 | and so i had that and a folder i thought the ftp was on | 02:55 |
| Sharn | I agree, Add/Remove is weak. xD | 02:55 |
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| Sharn | Kirby: Does it look better now? | 02:57 |
| Kirby | I forgot to check synaptic before the update, but the Not installed list is tiny. | 02:58 |
| Sharn | Ahh. That's what you want. | 02:58 |
| Kirby | I tried to install a C++ compiler and it seemed to work. | 02:58 |
| Sharn | Good. :) | 02:58 |
| Kirby | Now I think I've got it. I'll just have to get a cd with more packages on it. | 02:59 |
| Kirby | Do you guys recommend any repositories for Xubuntu? | 02:59 |
| Sharn | Yeah. You should be able to get your internet working. You have a network card or something, right? | 02:59 |
| Kirby | No, I'm on dial-up. I've heard how much of a pain it is to set up a modem for a computer. I'm only using this linux box for spreadsheet work and my music. Nothing that would have to require an internet connection. | 03:00 |
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| Sharn | Ahhhh. Ok. I never heard it was that tough. Hope my laptop has Ethernet... | 03:01 |
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| Kirby | It was something about how some computers don't have an actual modem, its just software. | 03:02 |
| cellofellow | winmodems yeah. Some work | 03:02 |
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| Sharn | Ooooh. Winmodems. Yeah, there are a lot of drivers for those, though. | 03:02 |
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| Sharn | Eh? | 03:03 |
| Kirby | I'm not too interested, if it is absolutely necessary, I can do it. But I'd still rather get a repository CD with only a few media players and openoffice. | 03:04 |
| Sharn | Ugh. I'm bored again. Need someone else to help... | 03:04 |
| Kirby | ") | 03:04 |
| Kirby | : | 03:04 |
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| Kirby | I just realized something. When I bought the new computer I took off all the keys so that I could clean them off. Since I had all the materials out, I decided to do it for this keyboard as well. Some of the keys are switched. | 03:05 |
| Kirby | "P | 03:05 |
| Sharn | Rofl... Ouch. | 03:06 |
| cellofellow | you can customize the keyboard layout to match. | 03:06 |
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| Sharn | Welcoem back. xD | 03:09 |
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| Kirby | I've almost forgot. Is there a good way to put package files on a cd/dvd, or is there already a file that I could download that (when on a cd) would be a good repository? | 03:14 |
| Sharn | I'm not sure... -googles- | 03:15 |
| Sharn | For... Xubuntu/Ubuntu/Kubuntu? | 03:15 |
| Kirby | Hey thanks, my google-foo has been failing me sofar. | 03:16 |
| Kirby | Xubuntu | 03:16 |
| cellofellow | Kirby: there is a way, but I don't know if it'd work from Windows. | 03:16 |
| cellofellow | one sec... | 03:16 |
| Kirby | I've got a friend with a linux box. | 03:16 |
| cellofellow | ok | 03:16 |
| cellofellow | Kirby: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/06/how-to-make-your-own-package-cd-for.html | 03:17 |
| Sharn | There you go. | 03:18 |
| Sharn | Good job, Cellofellow. | 03:18 |
| cellofellow | Showed up in my RSS this morning. | 03:18 |
| Kirby | *Reading | 03:19 |
| Kirby | Awesome, this should work great. I'll go over to his house tomorrow. | 03:21 |
| cellofellow | glad to help | 03:21 |
| cellofellow | may take you all day to download the stuff you want | 03:21 |
| Sharn | Yeah, might. | 03:22 |
| cellofellow | and don't use the browser. use aptitude download packagenames | 03:22 |
| cellofellow | that downloads the deb files to the current folder. | 03:23 |
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| Kirby | Oh, I almost forgot: Thank you guys. | 03:41 |
| Sharn | Rofl. Your welcome. :P | 03:42 |
| cellofellow | oh, yeah. no problem. Pleasure, actually. | 03:43 |
| Torist | is there an ubuntu that downloads everything from apt-get? | 03:43 |
| Torist | none of the cds seem to be working | 03:44 |
| Sharn | Uhhhh. | 03:48 |
| Sharn | Not sure what you mean. | 03:48 |
| Jester45 | Torist: apt-get uses the internet defaultly i think | 03:48 |
| cellofellow | Debian has that, it's called Net-install, but I don't think Ubuntu does. Maybe you could morph Debian Netinstall into Ubuntu | 03:48 |
| cellofellow | I've used Debian Net Install. 3 floppies to boot from, and then download the rest. | 03:49 |
| Sharn | Ooooh. You mean you want all the package downloaded? ...that would be insanely huge. | 03:50 |
| Torist | yeah | 03:50 |
| Torist | but its the only way for me | 03:50 |
| Jester45 | its ~160gb | 03:50 |
| Torist | no, just the kernel | 03:50 |
| Jester45 | for Every packages | 03:50 |
| Jester45 | o | 03:50 |
| cellofellow | My net-install box has no desktop, it's a server, so it's no worries. | 03:51 |
| Sharn | Hmmmm. -confused- I'll jsut stay out of this. xD | 03:51 |
| cellofellow | download took like a hour. Less than a CD with stuff. | 03:51 |
| Torist | i also get this crc error | 03:51 |
| Torist | when installing from CD | 03:51 |
| cellofellow | what you could do is install debian net-install, and then, without installing any extra packages, put an ubuntu sources.list file on there and see what happens. | 03:54 |
| Torist | i can't even get to terminal | 03:54 |
| Torist | server version fails for all ubuntus | 03:54 |
| Torist | all ubuntus fail | 03:54 |
| Torist | its terrible | 03:54 |
| Torist | i get crc and invalid compressed format errors | 03:54 |
| cellofellow | sure it's not bad burns? | 03:56 |
| Torist | 10 cds | 03:57 |
| Torist | different brands | 03:57 |
| Torist | different burners | 03:57 |
| Torist | 4 isos downloaded and md5'ed | 03:58 |
| cellofellow | :( | 03:58 |
| Torist | i don't think ubuntu is compatible with my computer | 03:58 |
| cellofellow | sounds like it. | 03:58 |
| cellofellow | there is always debian, and PC-BSD, and Gentoo if you're brave. | 03:58 |
| Torist | maybe, does freebsd have an apt-get? | 03:59 |
| Torist | and can i GUI freebsd? | 03:59 |
| cellofellow | BSD uses it's own system. PC-BSD is KDE on top of FreeBSD. | 03:59 |
| cellofellow | I don't think BSD has a proper apt-style package manager. | 03:59 |
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| Torist | can i install the latest version of debian? | 04:01 |
| Jester45 | maybe | 04:01 |
| Torist | will that let me apt-get? | 04:01 |
| Jester45 | yes | 04:01 |
| cellofellow | latest meaning Sarge, current Etch nightly, or Sid? | 04:01 |
| cellofellow | Apt-get comes from debian. | 04:01 |
| Torist | the latest version of the original debian | 04:01 |
| Torist | i know its built for debian, but debian ubuntu | 04:01 |
| Torist | it didn't start with debian (apt-get)? | 04:01 |
| cellofellow | it did | 04:02 |
| Torist | it started with ubuntu, right? | 04:02 |
| Torist | oh, wow, didn't know that | 04:02 |
| cellofellow | Debian's been around since 1993, with apt since around 97, and ubuntu only since 04 | 04:02 |
| Torist | ok, didn't know that | 04:03 |
| Torist | read a book on debian, but it didn't mention apt-get | 04:03 |
| cellofellow | no apt-get in a debian book? that's just wrong. | 04:03 |
| Torist | lol | 04:03 |
| Torist | well, the government bought it (@ library) | 04:03 |
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| Torist | very quiet in here | 04:46 |
| Sharn | I know. =\ | 04:46 |
| Sharn | TALK PEOPLE. xD | 04:46 |
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| chillinhh | hello? | 04:51 |
| Torist | hey | 04:51 |
| Sharn | TALKING | 04:51 |
| Sharn | PMG | 04:51 |
| Sharn | Hello | 04:51 |
| chillinhh | do you guys know if the xubuntu live cd comes with ndiswrapper | 04:51 |
| Sharn | I have no idea. Someone here should, though... | 04:52 |
| chillinhh | anybody? | 04:54 |
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| Sharn | Hello | 05:13 |
| Sharn | :) | 05:13 |
| Torist | Hey! | 05:15 |
| Torist | xubuntu lives doesn't come with ndiswrapper does it? | 05:15 |
| Sharn | I'm not positive I even know what that is. :) | 05:16 |
| Torist | i thought only knoppix 4.0 live has that | 05:16 |
| Torist | it is a linux program that allows you to install windows drivers | 05:16 |
| Torist | like wine is for exe's, ndiswrapper is for dll's and sys's | 05:16 |
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| Torist | wb Jester45 | 05:18 |
| Torist | i've seen ya here all the time, ur one of the ones that lives here | 05:18 |
| Sharn | Rofl. I knew it had something to do with Windows... | 05:19 |
| Torist | lol | 05:20 |
| Jester45 | yes i live here | 05:20 |
| Torist | lol | 05:20 |
| Jester45 | just trying to tidy up | 05:20 |
| Sharn | Rofl | 05:21 |
| Jester45 | i haveny been on for a week | 05:21 |
| Sharn | OH NOES | 05:22 |
| Sharn | =O | 05:22 |
| Sharn | Joking. xD | 05:22 |
| Jester45 | locked my router away so i could concentrate on my upgrades | 05:22 |
| Jester45 | true story | 05:24 |
| Sharn | Lol... | 05:26 |
| Sharn | Brilliant. :) | 05:26 |
| Sharn | Ugh. I'm bored. I need another nub to help. | 05:27 |
| Jester45 | whats the option for glxgears to show the fps? | 05:28 |
| Jester45 | !glxgears | 05:29 |
| ubotu | To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal. | 05:29 |
| Jester45 | figured it out | 05:29 |
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| Jester45 | w00t | 05:30 |
| Jester45 | ~8000 fps | 05:30 |
| Torist | hey yall, good news to share! | 05:31 |
| GionnyBoss | I have just installed Xubuntu on an old computer... Now I'm trying to install sun-java package, but it stopped and in details I can see there is the licence. The installation doesn't move. I didn't have this problem on Ubuntu in my other computer. How can I solve this? Any suggestions, please? Thanks | 05:31 |
| Torist | GionnyBoss, try a different java package | 05:31 |
| Torist | like blackdown or something like that | 05:32 |
| GionnyBoss | The problem is that installation doesn't move and I can't close that Synaptic window... how can I do? | 05:32 |
| Jester45 | you have to agree to the lisense | 05:32 |
| GionnyBoss | Jester45, yeah, but how? | 05:32 |
| Jester45 | humm | 05:32 |
| Torist | scroll down | 05:32 |
| Torist | then hit F8 as it states i think | 05:32 |
| Jester45 | are you looking in the details | 05:32 |
| GionnyBoss | aaah yeah | 05:32 |
| GionnyBoss | sorry | 05:32 |
| GionnyBoss | I made it | 05:32 |
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| Jester45 | working now? | 05:32 |
| Torist | was it F8? | 05:32 |
| GionnyBoss | I just needed to scroll down with the down key | 05:32 |
| GionnyBoss | sorry to waste your time with this stupid thing :P | 05:33 |
| GionnyBoss | eheheh | 05:33 |
| GionnyBoss | thank you | 05:33 |
| Jester45 | ok im bored again :) | 05:33 |
| GionnyBoss | lol | 05:33 |
| Torist | so there was no F8 involved? | 05:33 |
| Jester45 | QUICK: whats 100 * 100 / 100 | 05:33 |
| Torist | 1 | 05:33 |
| Torist | *100 | 05:34 |
| Jester45 | no he needed to scroll down | 05:34 |
| Torist | 1*100 | 05:34 |
| GionnyBoss | Torist, I didn't use F8, just scrolled down | 05:34 |
| Jester45 | i like apt my self | 05:34 |
| Torist | ok, thanks, just curious | 05:34 |
| Jester45 | simple | 05:34 |
| Torist | DEBIAN ROCKS! | 05:34 |
| Torist | its better than Xubuntu | 05:34 |
| Jester45 | try DSL | 05:34 |
| Torist | DSL < apt-get which rocks | 05:34 |
| GionnyBoss | yeah apt is good, but I just don't remember all package names... and so I use synaptic to search packages better :P | 05:34 |
| Torist | use the tab when in terminal | 05:35 |
| Torist | it gives you the names | 05:35 |
| GionnyBoss | yeah you're right | 05:35 |
| GionnyBoss | but I'm lazy :P | 05:35 |
| GionnyBoss | ahahah | 05:35 |
| Jester45 | or.. use apt-cache search | 05:35 |
| Sharn | Hey, someone is talking... | 05:35 |
| Torist | its a chat room in freenode | 05:35 |
| Jester45 | yes but im bored again | 05:35 |
| Torist | <free> | 05:35 |
| GionnyBoss | do you guys use Xubuntu? I'm using Ubuntu on my computer but I installed Xubuntu in an old one... Now it's the first time I see xubuntu | 05:36 |
| Jester45 | so... i going to watch all the bleach eps again | 05:36 |
| Jester45 | good job | 05:36 |
| Torist | DEBIAN saved my computer when Xubuntu or Ubuntu (all versions) couldn't | 05:36 |
| Jester45 | i use a few diffrent distros | 05:36 |
| Sharn | :) | 05:36 |
| Jester45 | Torist: you try warty? | 05:36 |
| GionnyBoss | Torist, an old computer? | 05:37 |
| Sharn | I have Xubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu on my old PC. Other than that, I don't use it yet. | 05:37 |
| Torist | yeah, it was an old computer | 05:37 |
| Torist | nvr heard of warty? | 05:38 |
| === Jester45 is not telling you to dl the torrent just to notice that this was enviably going to happen http://www.mininova.org/tor/577268 | ||
| Sharn | I'm hoping Xubuntu will run on my laptop. Else I'm heading to Debian also. | 05:38 |
| Sharn | Rofl, nice Jester. | 05:38 |
| Jester45 | Torist: its a old version of ubuntu pre K and X ubuntu | 05:38 |
| Sharn | There was a Bill Gates edition of every single Windows. :) | 05:39 |
| Jester45 | you know whats kinda weird | 05:39 |
| Torist | Ubuntu 4.10, i see | 05:39 |
| Jester45 | they filed it under Anime | 05:39 |
| Sharn | Yeah, Warty is just really old. | 05:39 |
| Jester45 | not Software | 05:39 |
| Jester45 | i like it | 05:39 |
| Sharn | Yeah. | 05:39 |
| Jester45 | but... its on the top of the page | 05:39 |
| Sharn | I think my original Ubuntu ship-it disc are either warty or the one right after. | 05:40 |
| Torist | probably after | 05:40 |
| Sharn | Ah. Mines 5.10. :P | 05:40 |
| Torist | yeah, that version has security holes everywhere | 05:40 |
| === Jester45 loves ship it FREE COASTERS !!!!!! | ||
| Sharn | xD | 05:40 |
| Sharn | I never got to install it anyhow. | 05:40 |
| Torist | make an envelope out of two sheets of paper, stamp it (one stamp works), and send it to a friend | 05:41 |
| Sharn | The computer I was tryign to install it with had a 250Gb hard drive and WinME. It screwed WinME up to repartition it, since it couldn't handle more than 170Gb. >.< | 05:41 |
| Jester45 | i have a 1TB | 05:42 |
| Jester45 | (new upgrade) | 05:42 |
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| Sharn | Heh. I was gonna order 5 new ones just incase someone wants to try it. And that's not in 1 drive is it? | 05:42 |
| Sharn | Largest I've seen is 750Gb | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | they have 1tb drives out | 05:43 |
| Sharn | WHERE? :O | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | i have 4 250 | 05:43 |
| Jester45 | i guess it was pointles to raid on linux | 05:43 |
| Sharn | Ah, that's what I though. :P | 05:44 |
| Sharn | I only have 1 250 | 05:44 |
| Jester45 | you could just mount diffrent parts of the system on diffrent drives but... thats no fun | 05:44 |
| Jester45 | lol | 05:44 |
| Jester45 | they bad part is that | 05:44 |
| Sharn | Rofl.... | 05:44 |
| Jester45 | i have them 3/4 filled | 05:44 |
| Sharn | With what? Holy crap... | 05:45 |
| Jester45 | hehe | 05:45 |
| Sharn | Rofl.... | 05:45 |
| Jester45 | i also love torrents | 05:45 |
| Sharn | Not gonna say, eh? | 05:45 |
| Sharn | ROFL | 05:45 |
| Sharn | Torrentspy.com ftw. :P | 05:45 |
| Jester45 | i go privte mostly | 05:45 |
| Torist | apt-get needs to be torrented | 05:45 |
| Jester45 | no it doesnt | 05:45 |
| Torist | NO MORE CENTRAL SERVERS | 05:45 |
| Torist | HURRAY! | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | to many problems with that and it would be bulky | 05:46 |
| Sharn | Hmmmm. Torist, it would be OK if there were constantly people seeding every package, but... | 05:46 |
| Sharn | There never will be. =\ | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | Sharn: um.. the central servers could be the seeds | 05:46 |
| Torist | even if they were distributed by the servers via BT | 05:46 |
| Torist | yeah | 05:46 |
| Torist | and it would save money for them to do that | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | so im the server | 05:46 |
| Torist | and others could help | 05:46 |
| Torist | :) | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | im the one constant seed | 05:47 |
| Torist | xubuntu.org hosts all :) | 05:47 |
| Sharn | Jester: do you torrent in Linux? And if so, what client? | 05:47 |
| Jester45 | you dl from me and your installing then Torist dled from me and you | 05:47 |
| Jester45 | azurues | 05:47 |
| Torist | KTorrent works for me | 05:47 |
| Torist | has encryption (plain encryption) and isn't a java hog | 05:47 |
| Sharn | Ooooh. Azerues is too much a rescource hog for my tastes. | 05:47 |
| Jester45 | i like ot feed my piggy | 05:47 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 05:48 |
| Jester45 | he gets hungry | 05:48 |
| GionnyBoss | hey guys... is there a good editor for Xfce? There's not Gedit installed in Xubuntu and I'm not sure if it will run if I install it... | 05:48 |
| Sharn | Judging by your 1Tb, you probably have plenty of RAM for it anyhow, | 05:48 |
| Jester45 | mousepad | 05:48 |
| Torist | or nano | 05:48 |
| Jester45 | or vi | 05:48 |
| Jester45 | or vim | 05:48 |
| Sharn | Yeah. Almost every WM has it's own good editor | 05:48 |
| GionnyBoss | yeah vi and vim I know :) | 05:48 |
| Jester45 | or abiword :) | 05:48 |
| GionnyBoss | is mousepad an editor? ok :) | 05:49 |
| Commander-Crowe | yes | 05:49 |
| Sharn | I'm a Gnome fan, personally. | 05:49 |
| Jester45 | its gui | 05:49 |
| GionnyBoss | I'm a Gnome fan too, Sharn | 05:49 |
| Jester45 | cc is back | 05:49 |
| Sharn | KDE is too... Windows-like. | 05:49 |
| Torist | GUIs don't always work over SSH | 05:49 |
| Jester45 | lol | 05:49 |
| Jester45 | you didnt specify | 05:49 |
| Sharn | I'm trying to get away from Windows, here. xD | 05:49 |
| GionnyBoss | but that old computer won't run with Gnome | 05:49 |
| Torist | does KDE use the same kernels as GNOME? | 05:50 |
| GionnyBoss | there are only 128 MB RAM | 05:50 |
| Sharn | Yeah, I know. I'm getting one that would choke on Gnome. | 05:50 |
| Torist | i am guessing they do since both are debian | 05:50 |
| Jester45 | lol | 05:50 |
| Jester45 | i just noticed | 05:50 |
| Sharn | Torist: all Ubuntu-based distros are going to use the same kernel... | 05:50 |
| Jester45 | i got a whole 3 workspaces dedicated to torrents | 05:50 |
| Torist | Sharn: Thanks | 05:50 |
| Sharn | Mmhmm. | 05:50 |
| GionnyBoss | the kernel has got nothing to do with window manager and gui | 05:51 |
| Sharn | You can install all three desktops from any three of them. | 05:51 |
| Sharn | Yeah. ^ | 05:51 |
| Jester45 | 1 has azurues 2 has firefox on a few trackers and 3 has ff on other trackers | 05:51 |
| Sharn | My gosh. I don't even want to know what you're torrenting. xD | 05:51 |
| GionnyBoss | ahahah | 05:52 |
| Torist | Jester, do you support RC4 and Plain Encryption in azureus? | 05:52 |
| Sharn | I only have 2 workspaces. 4 is overwhelming. | 05:52 |
| Jester45 | yes | 05:52 |
| Torist | ur awesome cause of that :) | 05:52 |
| GionnyBoss | Jester45, do you use azureus? I had problems with azureus when I tryed it... very unstable, often crashes... | 05:52 |
| Torist | use the version on the website | 05:52 |
| Jester45 | mine has uptime of um... | 05:52 |
| Torist | apt-get version isn't too stable | 05:52 |
| Sharn | I never had problems with it, it just helped Windows fill up the rest of my 704Mb or RAM. xD | 05:52 |
| GionnyBoss | ah ok! | 05:52 |
| Jester45 | weeks | 05:52 |
| Sharn | Haven't tried in Ubuntu yet. | 05:53 |
| Jester45 | try dsl | 05:53 |
| GionnyBoss | I'm using BitTornado, it works, simple, it opens a window for every torrent | 05:53 |
| GionnyBoss | dsl? never heard about it | 05:53 |
| Sharn | DSL linux, you mean? | 05:53 |
| Jester45 | Damn Small Linux | 05:54 |
| Jester45 | 50mb | 05:54 |
| Torist | DSL is cool for USB | 05:54 |
| Sharn | Yeah. That's what I thought. I way prefer Slax. | 05:54 |
| Torist | thats about it | 05:54 |
| Jester45 | you cant beat that | 05:54 |
| GionnyBoss | when I was using windows 2 years ago, there was a superb bittorrent client called uTorrent... is there something similar for linux? | 05:54 |
| Torist | yes, Azureus | 05:54 |
| Jester45 | yes utorrent+wine | 05:54 |
| Sharn | GionnyBoss: uTorrent pwns, but there is nothing exactly like it. | 05:54 |
| Torist | anything with DHT, look @ wikipedia | 05:54 |
| Torist | don't use wine, run it natively | 05:54 |
| Jester45 | utorrent will forever own all other torrent clients | 05:54 |
| Sharn | Look for Deluge, it works alright. | 05:54 |
| Torist | uTorrent is propietary | 05:54 |
| GionnyBoss | Azureus is a LOT more resource hungry | 05:54 |
| Torist | and closed source | 05:54 |
| Torist | agreed | 05:54 |
| Torist | there are 30 programs to run torrents from | 05:55 |
| Jester45 | BUT utorrent is the best | 05:55 |
| Torist | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_software | 05:55 |
| Jester45 | even its its only windows | 05:55 |
| Sharn | I agree. That's what I sue in Windows. Fast and simple. | 05:55 |
| Jester45 | anyone know how to put icons on the ff bookmarks | 05:56 |
| Torist | (see above website for help) | 05:56 |
| Sharn | Started with Bitlord, that told me half the torrents I tried were invalid. xD | 05:56 |
| Torist | anyone know how to host chipmarks servers? | 05:56 |
| GionnyBoss | yeah Jester45 I agree with you! I don't agree with uTorrent policy to keep it closed source but... it's the best! very small, I guess the code is so good! very good programmers | 05:56 |
| Torist | chipmark server rather (https://chipmark.com) | 05:56 |
| Sharn | http://deluge-torrent.org/ | 05:56 |
| Sharn | You may like that, after uTorrent | 05:56 |
| Jester45 | its small fast low memory low cpu lots of options | 05:56 |
| Sharn | That too. ^_^ | 05:57 |
| GionnyBoss | thanks | 05:57 |
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| GionnyBoss | I will try that :) | 05:57 |
| Sharn | What exactly is.cpkg? | 05:57 |
| Sharn | Anyone know? | 05:57 |
| Jester45 | what is it? | 05:58 |
| Sharn | Seems like jsut another zip format... | 05:58 |
| Sharn | Just* | 05:58 |
| Jester45 | sounds like a package of some kind | 05:58 |
| GionnyBoss | Sharn, there are a lot of cool websites on extensions, try to google ;) | 05:58 |
| GionnyBoss | never heard about .cpgk | 05:59 |
| Sharn | Yeah. It's a zip of some sort, though. The archive extractor opened it fine... | 05:59 |
| Jester45 | jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/Videos/Funny%20Videos%20-%20High%20Speed%20Parallel%20Parking.mpg | 05:59 |
| GionnyBoss | hey guys... mousepad is not coloring the text on source files... can I install a plugin for that or can you suggest me another editor, please? | 06:01 |
| GionnyBoss | I'm looking for something like gedit to run on xfce | 06:01 |
| Jester45 | !text | 06:01 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about text - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:01 |
| Sharn | You could try installing Gedit, maybe.. | 06:01 |
| Jester45 | !editors | 06:01 |
| ubotu | Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code | 06:01 |
| Jester45 | you might want | 06:01 |
| Jester45 | !code | 06:01 |
| ubotu | Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida | 06:01 |
| Jester45 | ones | 06:01 |
| GionnyBoss | Sharn, yeah you're right... maybe it will work... is Xfce GTK based? | 06:03 |
| Jester45 | yes | 06:03 |
| Sharn | No clue. I think so... | 06:03 |
| Sharn | Bluefish is cool, it may be too bloated for your uses though. | 06:04 |
| GionnyBoss | Jester45, thanks... I know all those, I'm just not very sure on what runs on Xfce... I have just installed Xfce now and I'm not sure on what will work on that :P | 06:04 |
| Jester45 | if it worked on ubuntu it will mostlikyl run on xubuntu | 06:05 |
| GionnyBoss | ok thanks | 06:05 |
| Sharn | Yeah, Gedit will run for sure. It just may not be integrated like mousepad | 06:07 |
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| Jester45 | you can make it intergradted | 06:07 |
| GionnyBoss | thanks :) the important thing is that it works | 06:07 |
| GionnyBoss | it's for this friend of mine's computer | 06:08 |
| Sharn | Ahhh. | 06:08 |
| GionnyBoss | he just needs it for the university... at school there's GNOME and so I'm trying to install all the things that he is familiar with | 06:08 |
| GionnyBoss | like Gedit, Eclipse and this stuff | 06:08 |
| Sharn | Yeah. | 06:08 |
| Sharn | I really hate this integrted graphics card crap. | 06:09 |
| GionnyBoss | on my computer here I have Ubuntu with Gnome and Gedit and Netbeans, Eclipse, everything you want | 06:09 |
| Sharn | >.< | 06:09 |
| GionnyBoss | what's the problem with graphic card, Sharn ? | 06:09 |
| Sharn | I have this feeling Cedega isn't going to play games without ATI's driver installed right. I can't get "Accelerated 3d" or whatever it is. | 06:10 |
| GionnyBoss | I think I understand you... it took me hours to make my laptop intel integrated graphic card work at the correct resolution | 06:10 |
| Sharn | It's running the "MESA" 3d driver. I've spent countless hours trying to get it to work for Beryl. | 06:10 |
| Sharn | Xgl just will not run on it. =\ | 06:10 |
| GionnyBoss | I don't know for ATI, but for NVidia you just install the driver | 06:10 |
| GionnyBoss | NVidia rulez for Linux ;) | 06:11 |
| Sharn | I actually have ATI's driver installed and working, I just can't get Xgl running. | 06:11 |
| Jester45 | ATI doesnt work as well becuase the drivers are closed source and ATI hasnt put much effort to the drivers | 06:11 |
| Jester45 | Sharn: you have to disable compositeing in xorg | 06:11 |
| Sharn | And I didn't really choose this computer... I'm home/kinda private schooled so they sent me a computer. | 06:12 |
| Sharn | Jester45: I've done that several times... I've followed about 15 different tutorials. | 06:12 |
| Jester45 | send it back? | 06:12 |
| Sharn | Rofl, then I don't have a computer. xD | 06:12 |
| Jester45 | send back with note? "please install nvidia card" | 06:12 |
| Sharn | xD To make it worse, it's a small form factor and won't take normal graphics cards. | 06:13 |
| Jester45 | my school has those | 06:13 |
| Sharn | I'll be building my own as soon as I get a job. (Only 15 ftw.) | 06:13 |
| Jester45 | i take the fans off their hands | 06:13 |
| Jester45 | 16 here | 06:14 |
| Sharn | Rofl... Has an integrated, shared memory, ati piece... | 06:14 |
| Sharn | And that's kindof surprising, honestly. | 06:14 |
| Sharn | Anywhere else on the internet, you'd have to be 42 to be that mature. xD | 06:14 |
| Jester45 | ??? | 06:15 |
| Sharn | Rofl. No offense. You've never been in a Runescape community, huh? | 06:16 |
| Jester45 | runescape is gay | 06:16 |
| Jester45 | knight online | 06:16 |
| Jester45 | sorry for my lang but i have strong feeling for runescape | 06:17 |
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| Sharn | Heh.. I used to play Runescape. got me a mod spot on a big forum for it. ^_^ Never heard of "Knight Online", though. | 06:17 |
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| Jester45 | google it if you have windows :) | 06:17 |
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| Jester45 | any one here try vista? | 06:18 |
| spasticteapot | That's like asking "has anyone here tried trepanning"? | 06:18 |
| spasticteapot | Honestly, I can live without the hole in my head. | 06:18 |
| Sharn | I've had several chances.. | 06:18 |
| Sharn | I still have a beta key... | 06:18 |
| Torist | anyone know how to get the list of channels in irssi | 06:19 |
| Sharn | I'd have to torrent to sue it, though... | 06:19 |
| Torist | or navigate back to the status screen? | 06:19 |
| Sharn | Dang it, use* | 06:19 |
| Torist | sue it | 06:19 |
| Torist | lol | 06:19 |
| Jester45 | i "torrented" vista and im not empressed at all | 06:19 |
| Torist | is there a stable live windows yet? | 06:20 |
| Sharn | "live windows"? | 06:20 |
| GionnyBoss | Torist, the words "stable" and "windows" don't go together | 06:20 |
| GionnyBoss | lol | 06:20 |
| Torist | lol | 06:20 |
| Sharn | I don't think my PC could push Vista. And GionnyBoss has a point there. | 06:20 |
| Torist | neither do xubuntu and my pc | 06:21 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 06:21 |
| spasticteapot | My PC looks just as good...with much less horsepower. | 06:21 |
| Sharn | Xgl + crappy integrated ATI card don't either. ^_^ | 06:21 |
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| spasticteapot | Sorry to ask it again, but does anyone know how to enable PCMCIA IDE? | 06:22 |
| Sharn | Nope, sorry. =\ | 06:22 |
| GionnyBoss | Sharn, I tryed Beryl without Xgl | 06:25 |
| Sharn | Aixgl or whatever it is? | 06:25 |
| GionnyBoss | yeah | 06:25 |
| GionnyBoss | you use your x.org server normally... you just have to enable some modules in x.org conf | 06:26 |
| Sharn | Really... Know of a tut on that? | 06:26 |
| GionnyBoss | for nVidia graphics cards there are just a couple of commands you run and you're ready to use Beryl | 06:26 |
| GionnyBoss | wait, I think I have a link | 06:26 |
| Sharn | Is it possible with ATI, though... | 06:27 |
| GionnyBoss | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy | 06:27 |
| Sharn | Ahh. | 06:27 |
| GionnyBoss | there's an ATI section, too... I hope it will work for you | 06:27 |
| Sharn | Ok, i'll take a look. Thanks | 06:27 |
| GionnyBoss | no problem | 06:27 |
| GionnyBoss | I didn't understand this "The Bathroom is The Network" ... uhm... maybe because all the people throw shit in the network like it were a Bath? | 06:28 |
| Sharn | Lmfao. | 06:29 |
| Jester45 | i have ATI and beryl working | 06:29 |
| GionnyBoss | Lmfao? what is this? I'm italian and I can't understand all this acronysms | 06:29 |
| Jester45 | im gonna do screen capture real fast | 06:29 |
| Jester45 | lol | 06:30 |
| Sharn | Hmmmm. | 06:31 |
| Sharn | I'm not the swearing type, so I probably won't spell it all out for you. :) | 06:31 |
| GionnyBoss | lol | 06:31 |
| Sharn | Laugh my ****ing *** off. :) | 06:31 |
| Jester45 | i was going to | 06:31 |
| Sharn | xD | 06:31 |
| GionnyBoss | yeah | 06:32 |
| GionnyBoss | I read it on google :P | 06:32 |
| GionnyBoss | just now | 06:32 |
| Jester45 | but then somerville32 would join and ban me again | 06:32 |
| GionnyBoss | ahahahah | 06:32 |
| Sharn | How did I miss that tut... | 06:32 |
| Jester45 | yea i been banned oo 3 or 4 times | 06:33 |
| Jester45 | from this channel | 06:33 |
| Jester45 | such fun | 06:33 |
| Jester45 | for doing what we are doing now | 06:33 |
| GionnyBoss | I read on a web page for lmfao: Loving My Fingers All Over! lol | 06:33 |
| Jester45 | talking offtopic stuff on the ontopioc channel | 06:34 |
| Sharn | They'll ban for that? | 06:34 |
| Sharn | Even when there's no-one here? | 06:34 |
| Jester45 | you dont know me :) | 06:34 |
| Jester45 | plus its kinda slow right now | 06:34 |
| Sharn | Ahhh. | 06:34 |
| Jester45 | see that was what i was aguening about | 06:34 |
| Sharn | #ubuntu is still roaring... | 06:34 |
| Jester45 | allways is | 06:35 |
| Sharn | Kinda nice being on a slow channel. ^_^ | 06:35 |
| Jester45 | and so i stayed in the offtopic channel and people started talking ontopc stuff there | 06:35 |
| Jester45 | it was fun | 06:35 |
| GionnyBoss | lol | 06:36 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 06:36 |
| Jester45 | ok i bee encoding the vid now | 06:37 |
| GionnyBoss | rotflmfao | 06:37 |
| GionnyBoss | lol | 06:37 |
| Sharn | xD | 06:37 |
| Sharn | Vid? | 06:37 |
| GionnyBoss | I'm starting to understand this dammn acronysm | 06:37 |
| Sharn | Good! | 06:37 |
| Jester45 | video | 06:37 |
| Sharn | Acronyms FTW | 06:37 |
| Sharn | Yeah, I know. What are you vidding again? :P | 06:37 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 06:38 |
| Jester45 | roflftwlollmfao | 06:38 |
| GionnyBoss | ahahahah | 06:38 |
| Jester45 | Sharn: my ATI and beryl | 06:39 |
| Sharn | Mmk. Are you using Xgl? | 06:39 |
| GionnyBoss | Jester45, which program do you use to encode? | 06:39 |
| Sharn | gtk-recordMyDesktop does it all in one. ^_^ | 06:40 |
| Sharn | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/gtk-recordmydesktop | 06:40 |
| GionnyBoss | but are there some good programs to encode a DVD and make it a DivX? | 06:41 |
| GionnyBoss | I don't know them for Linux | 06:41 |
| Sharn | No idea about that... Ubuntu locked up on me just sticking a DVD in at all yesterday. >.< | 06:41 |
| Jester45 | anyone know a good quick filehost? | 06:42 |
| Sharn | Uhhhh, how bog? | 06:42 |
| Sharn | big* | 06:42 |
| Sharn | Youtube is made for videos | 06:42 |
| GionnyBoss | or something like DVD Shrink for windows, which compress a DVD video in just 4,5 GB, so you can burn it on a single layer DVD... do you know something like this for Linux? | 06:42 |
| Sharn | There actually is a program named dvd shrink for Ubuntu | 06:42 |
| GionnyBoss | really? oh good :) | 06:43 |
| Sharn | I have it right now. :P | 06:43 |
| GionnyBoss | but I can't find the package | 06:43 |
| GionnyBoss | where did you get it? | 06:43 |
| Jester45 | Sharn: dvd srink works prefectly in wine | 06:43 |
| Sharn | Apperently you can also run dvd decrypter in Wine | 06:43 |
| Sharn | Hmmm. | 06:44 |
| GionnyBoss | I don't like very much using wine... do you know some Linux program for that? | 06:44 |
| Sharn | I have one here called dvd shrink, but it won't open now. Odd. | 06:45 |
| Sharn | I think I got it from automatix. | 06:45 |
| Sharn | I'll looks | 06:45 |
| Sharn | Yeah, do you have Automatix? | 06:45 |
| Jester45 | ok its uploading | 06:45 |
| Jester45 | slowly | 06:46 |
| Sharn | Rofl.. | 06:46 |
| Sharn | There's xDVDShrink and DVD Ripper in Automatix... | 06:46 |
| GionnyBoss | what0s Automatix? A Repo? | 06:46 |
| Sharn | You don't know what Automatix is? -crazed MSN face- | 06:47 |
| Sharn | Wait... | 06:47 |
| Sharn | You use Ubuntu? | 06:47 |
| GionnyBoss | yeah | 06:47 |
| Sharn | http://www.getautomatix.com/ | 06:47 |
| Sharn | Not sure how you didn't know about it, then. :P | 06:47 |
| Sharn | I prefer it over EasyUbuntu. EasyUbuntu never worked right for me. | 06:48 |
| GionnyBoss | I was using Fedora Core first... so I'm quite new to Ubuntu | 06:48 |
| GionnyBoss | thanks for the advice | 06:48 |
| GionnyBoss | :) | 06:48 |
| GionnyBoss | can you find a lot of stuff to install with automatix? | 06:49 |
| Sharn | Automatix has tons of stuff. | 06:49 |
| Sharn | And Fedora Core seemed really slow to me in VMware. | 06:50 |
| Jester45 | jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/Stuffs/dvd_Shrink.rar | 06:50 |
| GionnyBoss | what is that, Jester45 ? | 06:51 |
| GionnyBoss | is it for linux? | 06:51 |
| Jester45 | dvd shrink | 06:51 |
| Jester45 | wine | 06:51 |
| Sharn | Wine scares me too. :) | 06:52 |
| Jester45 | for linux its caled | 06:52 |
| Sharn | xDVDShrink | 06:52 |
| Jester45 | dd if=/dev/dvd of=/what/ever | 06:52 |
| Sharn | I tried getting Xfire to work in Wine... Bleh | 06:52 |
| GionnyBoss | I can't find that package with Synaptic, I should downloade automatix | 06:53 |
| Jester45 | then remove the beginning videos and extra sound tracks | 06:53 |
| Jester45 | ir acid rip | 06:53 |
| Jester45 | !acidrip | 06:53 |
| ubotu | acidrip: ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 54 kB, installed size 288 kB | 06:53 |
| Sharn | Tiny | 06:53 |
| Jester45 | ownage | 06:54 |
| GionnyBoss | I found a program called vamps which should do something like DVD Shrink | 06:54 |
| GionnyBoss | well... I will try tomorrow to install all this stuff, now I go to sleep | 06:55 |
| GionnyBoss | it's 7 am in the morning here :S | 06:55 |
| GionnyBoss | take care all | 06:55 |
| GionnyBoss | bye and see ya | 06:55 |
| Jester45 | roflftwlollmfaopwned | 06:55 |
| Sharn | Bye | 06:55 |
| Sharn | 7 am... heh. almost 11pm here | 06:56 |
| Jester45 | im going to add on to that all night | 06:56 |
| Jester45 | allmost 12 here | 06:56 |
| GionnyBoss | :P | 06:57 |
| GionnyBoss | it was good talking to you, I will be back | 06:57 |
| GionnyBoss | bye! | 06:57 |
| Jester45 | f this | 06:58 |
| Jester45 | im gonna email it to you all | 06:58 |
| Jester45 | no no | 06:58 |
| Jester45 | i must get file host | 06:58 |
| Sharn | Uhm... | 06:59 |
| Jester45 | never thought this would be so hard | 06:59 |
| Sharn | Try megaupload? | 06:59 |
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| Sharn | Rapidshare, yousendit | 07:00 |
| Jester45 | w00t | 07:00 |
| Jester45 | one with a progress bar | 07:00 |
| Sharn | xD | 07:01 |
| Sharn | Hmm. | 07:02 |
| Sharn | Exaile almost locked up. | 07:02 |
| Jester45 | yea im in KDE right now | 07:02 |
| Jester45 | so dont be like | 07:02 |
| Jester45 | ooo shame shaame thats kubuntu | 07:02 |
| Sharn | Rofl | 07:03 |
| Sharn | I need more room in Gnome. I put everything on one bar and it's tight for windows now. :O | 07:03 |
| Jester45 | 5:24 left | 07:04 |
| Sharn | Hmmmm. How fast is your internet? | 07:04 |
| Jester45 | my upload? | 07:05 |
| Jester45 | its 512 | 07:05 |
| Jester45 | dl its 5mb | 07:05 |
| Jester45 | lop sided | 07:05 |
| Sharn | Holy crap. You get faster upload than my download. I tihnk. | 07:05 |
| Sharn | Think* | 07:05 |
| Jester45 | should of zipped it | 07:07 |
| Jester45 | you should see my torrent ratios :) | 07:08 |
| Sharn | Rofl | 07:08 |
| Jester45 | jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/Videos/Funny%20Videos%20-%20High%20Speed%20Parallel%20Parking.mpg thats a funny one | 07:09 |
| Sharn | I can only upload at 35Kb/s before my download starts slowing down. =\ | 07:09 |
| Jester45 | depends on my dl speed | 07:09 |
| Jester45 | http://www.filefactory.com/file/5107f9/ <---- its done!!!!! | 07:10 |
| Sharn | Oh, it's tiny... | 07:10 |
| Jester45 | but i couldnt find a place to upload it | 07:10 |
| Jester45 | and i didnt feel like putting on http server | 07:11 |
| Sharn | I think that mpg locked up FF. =O | 07:11 |
| Sharn | Nope, jsut slowed it down. | 07:11 |
| Jester45 | o | 07:11 |
| Jester45 | yea the mpg is small | 07:12 |
| Sharn | Yours is only 8Mb | 07:12 |
| Jester45 | yep | 07:12 |
| Sharn | 16% down already. | 07:12 |
| cyberyak | heheheh | 07:12 |
| cyberyak | cool. | 07:12 |
| Sharn | Hello | 07:12 |
| Sharn | 25% | 07:12 |
| Jester45 | so who here wanted to see it anyways | 07:13 |
| Sharn | I'm looking | 07:14 |
| cyberyak | OT: does anyone know if /dev/random /dev/urandom/ and /dev/zero are available on Tomsrtbt floppy? | 07:14 |
| Jester45 | zero should | 07:15 |
| Sharn | Put that thing on Youtube. | 07:15 |
| Jester45 | no you dont | 07:15 |
| Sharn | I'm not. :P | 07:16 |
| cyberyak | I don't have a floppy here to test it out. | 07:16 |
| Jester45 | qemu | 07:16 |
| Sharn | Just saying, that's a nicer vid of Beryl. It would get a good amount of views. | 07:16 |
| Jester45 | i like the icon moving ablity | 07:16 |
| Jester45 | jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/Videos/XGLBerylburneffect.avi | 07:17 |
| Jester45 | is one i had from a while back | 07:18 |
| Jester45 | only good with dark backgrounds | 07:18 |
| Sharn | That link is broken. :O | 07:19 |
| Sharn | I lied | 07:20 |
| Sharn | Nvm | 07:20 |
| Jester45 | o yea | 07:21 |
| Jester45 | i limit apache to 15kbs | 07:21 |
| Sharn | Oh, neat affect though | 07:21 |
| Jester45 | yea | 07:21 |
| Jester45 | as said from about | 07:22 |
| Jester45 | only good with dark backgrounds | 07:22 |
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| Sharn | Yeah. I can tell | 07:22 |
| Sharn | Well, Jester, I'll be on tomorrow. Later. | 07:25 |
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| Commander-Crowe | ok so who needs help | 07:33 |
| Commander-Crowe | I'll be here for a bunch of hours | 07:33 |
| Torist | quick question | 07:36 |
| Torist | how do i save a visudo file? | 07:36 |
| cyberyak | I need help--unfortunately it's not linux help atm. | 07:36 |
| Torist | cyberyak, maybe you can help me on this one or Commander-Crowe? | 07:37 |
| cyberyak | OH! But I do have a question! | 07:37 |
| Commander-Crowe | not sure cyberyak | 07:38 |
| Commander-Crowe | or rather Torist | 07:38 |
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| Commander-Crowe | cyberyak go ahead | 07:38 |
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| cyberyak | Torist does ESC : wq work | 07:38 |
| cyberyak | does xubuntu let you cat /proc/kcore? | 07:39 |
| Commander-Crowe | try it | 07:39 |
| cyberyak | don't have a xubuntu box running ATM. | 07:39 |
| Commander-Crowe | no | 07:39 |
| Commander-Crowe | it doesn't work | 07:39 |
| cyberyak | access denied error or some such? | 07:40 |
| Commander-Crowe | yeah | 07:40 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: permission denied | 07:40 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: i assume you need sudo privs | 07:40 |
| cyberyak | cool. | 07:40 |
| cyberyak | don't think so. | 07:40 |
| cyberyak | got the same thing on my CentOS box as root. | 07:40 |
| Commander-Crowe | yeah | 07:41 |
| Commander-Crowe | sudo says no too | 07:41 |
| cyberyak | k | 07:41 |
| cyberyak | thanks. | 07:42 |
| cyberyak | Torist, did that work for you? | 07:42 |
| maxamillion | interesting | 07:42 |
| cyberyak | I used to use that to send a large amount of data to a device for throughput and perf. testing. | 07:43 |
| cyberyak | alas not an option anymore. | 07:44 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: you running CentOS right now? | 07:44 |
| cyberyak | Yes, on my desk. | 07:44 |
| cyberyak | this is a....shhhhhhh.....xp box. | 07:45 |
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| pseydtonne | Anyone familiar with getting Xubuntu 6.06 booted on PowerPC architecture? | 07:45 |
| cyberyak | my b@st@rdized xubuntu laptop is still unstable. | 07:46 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: well i was just wondering how you like CentOS | 07:47 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: i am, used to run xubuntu on an iBookG4 before i sold it | 07:47 |
| cyberyak | it's fine. Red Hat EL, without the Copyright Infringement. | 07:47 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: cool cool | 07:47 |
| cyberyak | that's what my wife is currently using, but I'm getting ready to switch her over to ubuntu or xubuntu | 07:48 |
| maxamillion | :) | 07:48 |
| cyberyak | It's KDE and bloated for what she does. | 07:48 |
| pseydtonne | maxamillion: I'm trying to get an eMac G4 700 MHz to boot. I get through the startup screen but it dies trying to get into X. | 07:48 |
| j1mc | i had centos running xfce on it for a little while. | 07:49 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: just the live cd? | 07:50 |
| pseydtonne | maxamillion: I'm more familiar with Sun's version of OpenBoot, so I cannot tell which parameters I should pass to get runlevel 3 instead. Yeah, just the Live CD -- I don't even care if it installs. | 07:50 |
| pseydtonne | I got this pup from a dumpster run. | 07:50 |
| cyberyak | heheheh | 07:50 |
| pseydtonne | (Actually from a guy at Harvard tossing 'em but it sounds more normal to play the dumpster angle.) | 07:50 |
| maxamillion | j1mc: i was concidering it for a server at work ... my boss likes GUI config tools and last time i checked RHEL and SLES had GUI interfaces for configuring things like samba, proftpd, etc. | 07:50 |
| cyberyak | yep. | 07:51 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: lol, ok ... well hit ctrl+alt+f1 ... does that bring you to a command line interface? | 07:51 |
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| cyberyak | er, I was until the laptop locked up again. | 07:52 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: i like fluxbox accept for the fact that windows don't snap to other windows or the edge of the screen ... which is a feature i have grown to _love_ about xfwm4 | 07:52 |
| j1mc | maxamillion, that's cool to have GUI's for that kind of stuff. I just <3 debian/_ubuntu's package management | 07:52 |
| pseydtonne | lemme try. Gonna start it up again (frickin' noisy like the nose cone of the aircraft it looks like) | 07:52 |
| cyberyak | true. I just noticed that this morning as a matter of fact. | 07:52 |
| j1mc | that's why i've stuck w/ ubuntu and debian | 07:52 |
| maxamillion | j1mc: oh me too, but my entire office is a windows setup so i am trying to work in linux slowly to these noobs (i actually dual boot at my desk, but that took me a couple months to get permission) | 07:53 |
| cyberyak | yep yum tells you the dependencies, apt-get resolves them. | 07:53 |
| j1mc | what do you do, maxamillion? are you a programmer? | 07:53 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: and aptitude can fix them ;) | 07:53 |
| cyberyak | heheheh | 07:54 |
| cyberyak | I like equivs too. I hadn't played with that before. | 07:54 |
| maxamillion | j1mc: i'm actually a college student with a student systems technician job in my campus library (i code, fix computers, networking problems, etc. ... just your basic tech monkey) | 07:54 |
| cyberyak | drink beer and chase girls? | 07:55 |
| j1mc | sounds cool. | 07:55 |
| cyberyak | my definition or his? | 07:55 |
| maxamillion | j1mc: we are about to build a server with a few terabytes of storage for digital archiving and i want that server running linux so i am trying to find the perfect GUI to ease my boss and the other techs into linux | 07:56 |
| cyberyak | very nice | 07:56 |
| j1mc | ah, cool. | 07:56 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: no, i'm in my 3rd year of college ... engaged, have a cheap loft apartment and a dog :) | 07:56 |
| j1mc | i'd like to know which one you decide on. | 07:56 |
| j1mc | have you used suse / opensuse very much? | 07:56 |
| pseydtonne | maxamillion: Sweetx0r and other hipster phrasings! Hey, I did get a console! | 07:56 |
| maxamillion | j1mc: i think my boss wants suse ... he seemed impressed with YaST2 | 07:57 |
| j1mc | cool. | 07:57 |
| j1mc | i wonder how RHEL5 is going to turn out. | 07:57 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: awesome ... then you probably just need to edit your xorg.conf | 07:57 |
| j1mc | i had an interview with redhat, but i didn't get the job. | 07:57 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: ok ... is it a command prompt or do you need to log in? | 07:57 |
| cyberyak | I think I still have some friends at red hat. Tammy and Brent Fox. | 07:58 |
| j1mc | i kinda know spot callahan and his wife. | 07:58 |
| j1mc | i live in chicago, so i think part of the reason i didn't get the job is that they'd have to move me to raleigh. | 07:58 |
| pseydtonne | maxamillion: it's a proper prompt. However, the BogoMips are so wrong compared to an x86 box. "49.79" for this. | 07:58 |
| j1mc | i just do HR work, though. it was for an HRIS analyst job. | 07:59 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: BogoMips? | 07:59 |
| cyberyak | Tammy created one of the Kickstart configurator apps. | 07:59 |
| pseydtonne | maxamillion: The fake reading of processor speed you see in dmesg, /proc/cpuinfo, et cetera. | 08:00 |
| pseydtonne | Usually it's just double the processor speed. | 08:00 |
| j1mc | hey all, i think i'm headed off to bed. | 08:00 |
| j1mc | have a good night. | 08:00 |
| j1mc | :) | 08:01 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: oh, ok | 08:01 |
| cyberyak | I was hanging out with some friends at the Compaq Booth at Linux World several years ago and this guy walks up and starts chatting with one of my friends. | 08:01 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: do you have a prefered command line text editor? | 08:01 |
| cyberyak | they were old friends. | 08:01 |
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| pseydtonne | maxamillion: I work in vim but I prefer to get work done in jed. | 08:02 |
| cyberyak | and he turns to me and says, I'd like to introduce Don Becker. | 08:02 |
| cyberyak | I was like, where have I seen that name. | 08:02 |
| cyberyak | I know I've seen that name. | 08:03 |
| cyberyak | how do I know that name. | 08:03 |
| cyberyak | oh yeah, every linux machine I have prints out that name as it loads the network modules and IP stack. | 08:03 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: well, you seem well versed ... you familiar with the xorg.conf file? | 08:04 |
| cyberyak | Beowulf, don becker. | 08:04 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: interesting | 08:04 |
| cyberyak | then I had difficulty maintaining composure. | 08:04 |
| pseydtonne | The fusion of Walter Becker and Donald Fagen! | 08:04 |
| pseydtonne | maxamillion: mostly the old xf86config files, but yeah. | 08:05 |
| cyberyak | can't he do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at this point? | 08:06 |
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| maxamillion | pseydtonne: well ... its the same exact syntax ... so do "sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change the server to "vesa" | 08:06 |
| maxamillion | atleast i think its the same ... if its not, its very similar | 08:06 |
| pseydtonne | My roomie just made an interesting point: Sesame Street never had an episode sponsored by zero. | 08:06 |
| maxamillion | cyberyak: uhmmm... lol, yeah | 08:06 |
| cyberyak | pseydtonne, how much has he had to drink? | 08:07 |
| pseydtonne | He never drinks. He just has synaesthesia. | 08:07 |
| maxamillion | pseydtonne: yeah ... actually, don't bother with xorg.conf just do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select "vesa" as the driver | 08:07 |
| cyberyak | good point on the 0. I guess they only did positive integers | 08:10 |
| pseydtonne | counting numbers, yeah | 08:10 |
| cyberyak | You could argue Hex in that they do A-F, but they specifically refer to them as letters. | 08:10 |
| cyberyak | what a shame. | 08:11 |
| cyberyak | nice quit msg. | 08:12 |
| cyberyak | needs a few ascii characters first ^NO CARRIER | 08:12 |
| cyberyak | but I could see far more confused kids with the A-F being numbers as well as letters. | 08:14 |
| cyberyak | then again, my kid picked up some of the stuff I was studying for a StorageWorks Exam. | 08:14 |
| cyberyak | he was ~2 and I was reading to him from tech manuals under the assumption that it doesn't matter what you read but *how* you read it. | 08:15 |
| cyberyak | and then I'm at a conference with some other guys and one of them asks my son how old he is. | 08:16 |
| cyberyak | he tells them and I follow it up by having them ask him what the array controllers do. | 08:17 |
| cyberyak | his response in the speech of a 2 year old, "writes meta data to the hard drives" | 08:17 |
| cyberyak | and smiled all the while. | 08:17 |
| cyberyak | I was collectively called a sick individual. | 08:18 |
| maxamillion | heh ... can't wait till i have kids, they will be the same way :) | 08:18 |
| geo- | lol | 08:19 |
| pseydtonne | I'm holding off on the spawning process. | 08:19 |
| cyberyak | I can't wait until next year. My son turns 10 and I'm going to try to set up a lan party for him and a few friends. | 08:20 |
| cyberyak | some of our friends are tree-hugging pacifists that don't discuss even the concept of guns. | 08:21 |
| maxamillion | i'm outta here ... bbl | 08:21 |
| cyberyak | can't wait to get them playing some game where they blow each other up. | 08:21 |
| cyberyak | well, max has the right idea. Bed Beckons. | 08:22 |
| pseydtonne | I like that thinking | 08:31 |
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| sacater | grr | 10:42 |
| sacater | is grazie online | 10:42 |
| sacater | that 668mhz 64mbRAM machine BLEW up rather than run xubuntu | 10:42 |
| sacater | processer started burning when configureing the apps | 10:43 |
| sacater | and anty--- something failed to be configuered | 10:43 |
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| gabkdll1 | sacater: on 64mb I would expect there to be a lot of swapping going on once you have a couple of apps open | 10:57 |
| sacater | well its blown up | 10:57 |
| sacater | so no point crying over spilt milk as it were | 10:58 |
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| kumamoto | nvidia-drivers don't seem to work with kernel-2.6.7.11 | 11:19 |
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| Grey_Loki | Is there a way to find out which devices in /dev/ actually point to something, and which are just 'placeholders'? | 12:33 |
| Grey_Loki | I'm trying to find a FAT32 partition, and mount it, but it seems that none of what I thought it would be (hdax, hdbx, etc) are..it | 12:34 |
| Grey_Loki | x=a number (hda1, etc) | 12:34 |
| grazie | Grey_Loki: I think you've not quite understood devices. /dev are your devices and a mount points to them | 12:36 |
| grazie | Grey_Loki: do 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' to look for your FAT32 partition | 12:37 |
| Grey_Loki | grazie, so everything in /dev/ is actually a device connected to my system? | 12:39 |
| grazie | Grey_Loki: some are real and some are pseudo | 12:39 |
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| Grey_Loki | Thanks :) | 12:43 |
| grazie | np | 12:43 |
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| Rippawallet | hey | 01:00 |
| Rippawallet | how do i change my wallpaper | 01:00 |
| Rippawallet | in xubuntu | 01:00 |
| Rippawallet | :)? | 01:00 |
| Rippawallet | hey | 01:01 |
| Rippawallet | how do i change my wallpaper | 01:01 |
| Rippawallet | in xubuntu | 01:01 |
| Rippawallet | :)? | 01:01 |
| Rippawallet | cmon | 01:03 |
| Rippawallet | someone | 01:03 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 01:03 |
| Rippawallet | helloo? | 01:03 |
| Rippawallet | TheSheep, you are always a good helper | 01:03 |
| Rippawallet | D: | 01:03 |
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| Rippawallet | because i cant right click on my desktop.. | 01:06 |
| grazie | Rippawallet: Applications > Settings > Desktop Settings | 01:07 |
| Rippawallet | am i meant to be able to right click on my desktop | 01:07 |
| Rippawallet | thx | 01:07 |
| Rippawallet | i fixed | 01:08 |
| Rippawallet | nvm | 01:08 |
| grazie | Rippawallet: you should be able to get there by right clicking yes | 01:09 |
| Rippawallet | yeah | 01:09 |
| Rippawallet | in desktop preferences | 01:09 |
| Rippawallet | show menu on right click was disabled for some reason.. | 01:09 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 01:09 |
| grazie | Rippawallet: there's a couple of bugs in xfce on edgy | 01:10 |
| Rippawallet | hmm | 01:10 |
| Rippawallet | alright thanks | 01:10 |
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| nsg1sfubar | can any one tell me were i can get a free cd of xubuntu | 02:10 |
| Rippawallet | errr | 02:11 |
| Rippawallet | as in | 02:11 |
| Rippawallet | order? | 02:11 |
| nsg1sfubar | yes | 02:11 |
| Rippawallet | uhm | 02:12 |
| Rippawallet | you can get it of ubuntu | 02:12 |
| Rippawallet | not xubuntu i dont think | 02:12 |
| nsg1sfubar | no | 02:12 |
| Rippawallet | what? | 02:12 |
| nsg1sfubar | thanks any | 02:13 |
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| Grey_Loki | Is there a command that would let me create a FAT32 partition out of unpartitioned space on the LiveCD? | 02:14 |
| Grey_Loki | Other than the actual graphical installer, that is | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | why dont you want to use the installer for it? | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | or on the livecd | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | go to | 02:15 |
| Grey_Loki | Because I don't want to install Xubuntu | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | applications>system>GNOME partition editor | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | applications>system>GNOME partition editor | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | you dont need to by doing that | 02:15 |
| Grey_Loki | I'm using it purely for data recovery | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | ok | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | well | 02:15 |
| Rippawallet | do what i just said | 02:16 |
| Rippawallet | Grey_Loki, work? | 02:17 |
| Grey_Loki | Rippawallet, I don't know yet - i'm helping someone over the phone | 02:17 |
| Rippawallet | oh | 02:17 |
| Rippawallet | right | 02:17 |
| Rippawallet | so its not you that needs help? | 02:17 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 02:17 |
| Grey_Loki | Nope | 02:17 |
| Rippawallet | Oh right. | 02:18 |
| Rippawallet | What happened? | 02:21 |
| Rippawallet | brb | 02:24 |
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| LordGamer | hi all | 02:29 |
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| LordGamer | I tried installing the ATI drivers with this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide and when it was installed it took away the jerkyness of movements but I dont think it installed the video card cause flgrxinfo says this: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". | 02:32 |
| LordGamer | display: :0.0 screen: 0 | 02:32 |
| LordGamer | OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org | 02:32 |
| LordGamer | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect | 02:32 |
| LordGamer | OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1) | 02:32 |
| LordGamer | it should say something about an ATI 1900XT | 02:33 |
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| LordGamer | hi grazie | 02:34 |
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| Rippawallet | the time is 13:37 | 02:37 |
| grazie_ | LordGamer: hello | 02:37 |
| LordGamer | know much about ATI driver install? | 02:38 |
| grazie_ | LordGamer: Afraid not. I only have ATI on a ppc mac and there's no closed source driver for that | 02:39 |
| LordGamer | ok :( | 02:39 |
| Rippawallet | whats the default root pass | 02:44 |
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| grazie_ | Rippawallet: root password is not set by default | 02:46 |
| Rippawallet | oh | 02:46 |
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| grazie | LordGamer: did you follow the links at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29 | 02:50 |
| Rippawallet | brb | 02:51 |
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| LordGamer | yes grazie | 02:55 |
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| grazie | LordGamer: what's the problem? | 02:56 |
| LordGamer | I tried installing the ATI drivers with this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide and when it was installed it took away the jerkyness of movements but I dont think it installed the video card cause flgrxinfo says this: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". | 02:57 |
| LordGamer | display: :0.0 screen: 0 | 02:57 |
| LordGamer | OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org | 02:57 |
| LordGamer | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect | 02:57 |
| LordGamer | OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1) | 02:57 |
| LordGamer | lots of problem on the fourms but no solutions | 02:58 |
| LordGamer | at least not that I can find | 02:58 |
| grazie | LordGamer: I've no experience in solving your problem, sorry | 02:58 |
| grazie | LordGamer: has it been a problem for a long time? | 02:59 |
| LordGamer | for me it hasnt as I have just tried Ubuntu the past week but it seems that it was even in Breezy | 03:00 |
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| chillinhh | hello? | 03:19 |
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| TheSheep | hi chillinhh | 03:25 |
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| chillinhh | do you know if xubuntus desktop cd comes with ndiswrapper | 03:37 |
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| ephemeros | \m/ yo | 03:40 |
| chillinhh | sup eph.. | 03:40 |
| Sharn | chilinhh: I have the iso downloaded, is there any way to check for you? | 03:40 |
| ephemeros | nothing special | 03:41 |
| chillinhh | check the package installer | 03:41 |
| ephemeros | wanna check xfld | 03:41 |
| Grey_Loki | chillinhh, if it doesn't, once you've got yourself set up, a simple 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper' should get you up and running | 03:41 |
| Grey_Loki | :) | 03:41 |
| Sharn | What's the shortcut to just rnu a single command? | 03:42 |
| Sharn | Run* | 03:42 |
| grazie_ | Sharn: alt-f2 | 03:42 |
| chillinhh | sudo apt-get requires the net doesnt it | 03:43 |
| grazie_ | chillinhh: not always no | 03:43 |
| Sharn | grazie: Thanks. :) | 03:43 |
| chillinhh | thanks also grazie | 03:43 |
| grazie_ | chillinhh: have have to set your sources,list to use cd/dvd whatever | 03:44 |
| Sharn | Which should be set already. | 03:45 |
| Sharn | If you haven't changed anything, that is. | 03:45 |
| chillinhh | well does ndiswrapper come on the cd | 03:45 |
| grazie_ | chillinhh: cd - doubful, dvd - probably | 03:46 |
| chillinhh | ok well can i access my hard drives from the live cd | 03:47 |
| chillinhh | that way i could just put my driver and ndiswrapper on a drive and load it from there | 03:47 |
| Sharn | chillinhh: Do you have the live-cd burned already? Just boot into it and try apt-get install ndiswrapper | 03:47 |
| chillinhh | about to burn it | 03:48 |
| Sharn | Ahhh. Ok | 03:48 |
| chillinhh | sharn | 03:50 |
| chillinhh | it still requires the driver for my wireless card to use ndiswrapper though | 03:50 |
| chillinhh | so im giong to need to access that file somehow | 03:51 |
| Sharn | Yes, but it MAY be on the live-cd.... | 03:51 |
| chillinhh | i dought my driver is going ot be on the cd | 03:52 |
| Sharn | If not... stick the package on a USB drive. | 03:52 |
| chillinhh | can i access my hard drive or not | 03:52 |
| chillinhh | no usb drive | 03:52 |
| Sharn | Ouch. | 03:52 |
| Sharn | Uhm... | 03:52 |
| chillinhh | yes or no? | 03:53 |
| chillinhh | i have to go | 03:53 |
| Sharn | You won't be able to access it with apt-get, but I think you can get into it. | 03:53 |
| Sharn | Not positive, because I rarely use the live-cd | 03:53 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Yes. You can mount it the way you could in any Linux environment. | 03:53 |
| Sharn | ^ | 03:53 |
| chillinhh | hmm | 03:54 |
| chillinhh | ok ill look into that thanks | 03:54 |
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| agrei1 | I have a question on dpkg-scanpackages: how can I use it to generate the various translation files. I want to let it create the Translation-de file. Any Ideas? | 03:58 |
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| agreif | How can I create the Translation-xx files in a debian repository? | 04:14 |
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| Sharn | Boomp. agreif: stick around and keep asking, someone should be ble to help. | 04:32 |
| Jester45 | with what | 04:39 |
| Jester45 | anyone know how to burn a iso to a cd with cli? | 04:39 |
| crimsun | use cdrecord | 04:40 |
| crimsun | for data cds, I use cdrecord -v dev=4,0,0 driveropts=burnfree foo.iso | 04:40 |
| crimsun | for audio cds, I use cdrecord -v dev=4,0,0 driveropts=burnfree -audio -pad *.wav | 04:41 |
| crimsun | to find what dev parameter to use, see cdrecord -scanbus | 04:41 |
| Jester45 | ok | 04:41 |
| Jester45 | ok i will try that | 04:42 |
| grazie_ | crimsun: any particular reason you use cli rather than gui? | 04:42 |
| crimsun | grazie_: no, I use k3b regularly | 04:43 |
| grazie_ | crimsun: whatever your in the mood forr? | 04:44 |
| crimsun | grazie_: essentially | 04:44 |
| grazie_ | crimsun: k3b on xubuntu? | 04:47 |
| crimsun | grazie_: sure, or graveman, or serpentine, or whatever's installed | 04:47 |
| Jester45 | grazie yes gnome and kde things work with xubuntu | 04:48 |
| grazie_ | crimsun: oh yeah....just those kde libs | 04:48 |
| crimsun | well, I use kde, too... | 04:49 |
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| === Sharn only uses Gnome so far | ||
| Sharn | xD | 04:50 |
| Sharn | xfce is a little too plain for regular use for me.. | 04:51 |
| Jester45 | you should customize it | 04:51 |
| Sharn | I will be when I install it | 04:52 |
| grazie | Sharn: if you replace nautillus with thunar on gnome you may well be surprised by the improvement | 04:53 |
| Sharn | Thunar being xfce's file browser? | 04:55 |
| Jester45 | yes | 04:56 |
| Sharn | Mmk. Would that be an apt-get install thunar thing? xD | 04:57 |
| Sharn | Or more complicated...? | 04:57 |
| grazie | Sharn: absolutely (with 'sudo ...'), but you'll only see benefit when nautilus goes | 04:58 |
| Jester45 | apt-get install thunar | 04:58 |
| Sharn | Hmmm. Thunar isn't that different.. | 05:06 |
| Sharn | Near as I can tell. | 05:06 |
| grazie | Sharn: it's fast | 05:06 |
| Sharn | Oooh. Ok. I'm not too worried about performance ont his computer. :) | 05:08 |
| xfceubuntu | is there the gtk+ cd grabber? | 05:09 |
| Sharn | Uhm... | 05:09 |
| xfceubuntu | and what is the user friendy? | 05:09 |
| Sharn | Like, music cd ripper? | 05:09 |
| xfceubuntu | yes | 05:10 |
| Sharn | I'm not sure if it's gtk+, but there's Serpentine... | 05:10 |
| Sharn | There's also Sound Juicer | 05:11 |
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| Sharn | Either of those work? | 05:17 |
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| cheatersrealm | is there a way to autohide a window and dock it to the side? (gaim) | 05:45 |
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| BrendanM | so the Xscreensaver daemon doesn't seem to be autostarting for me when I log in | 05:52 |
| BrendanM | is there a way I can set it to run on startup? | 05:52 |
| grazie | BrendanM: enable it in the menus | 05:53 |
| BrendanM | which menus? where? | 05:53 |
| BrendanM | I think it went away because I switched to using "default system session" as my login in order to keep my panel battery icon (that's a known bug, apparently) | 05:54 |
| grazie | BrendanM: Appilcations > Settings Manager > Screensaver | 05:55 |
| grazie | BrendanM: weren't you asking about xfce transparency? | 05:57 |
| grazie | BrendanM: if so use this link http://linuxgrazie.brinkster.net/XubuntuTransparency.html | 05:58 |
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| slow-motion | hallo | 06:05 |
| Sharn | Hello | 06:07 |
| slow-motion | hi Sharn | 06:07 |
| sacater | if anyone has a good laptop they are willing to sell, #sacater, | 06:09 |
| Sharn | :O | 06:10 |
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| apoca | Hi | 06:19 |
| apoca | Is there any possibility to get transparent active windows with the XFCE-Composite-Manager? | 06:19 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Sure. Do you have compositing working yet? | 06:20 |
| apoca | Yes | 06:20 |
| apoca | But I can't see an option to get active windows transparent | 06:20 |
| apoca | Only inactive | 06:20 |
| Sharn | (09:58:45 AM) grazie: BrendanM: if so use this link http://linuxgrazie.brinkster.net/XubuntuTransparency.html | 06:20 |
| Sharn | I think he may have been meaning you, apoca.. | 06:20 |
| apoca | Thank you | 06:21 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | If the cursor is over the window border, hold down the alt button and use the scroll wheel. | 06:21 |
| Sharn | Mmhmm. | 06:21 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | It'll change the transparency for that window. | 06:21 |
| apoca | PuMpErNiCkLe: wow, didn't know that | 06:21 |
| Sharn | Neat | 06:22 |
| apoca | Will settings for windows be saved? | 06:23 |
| Grey_Loki | I tried that link, and it almost fubared X | 06:23 |
| Sharn | Rofl | 06:23 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | I don't think so, but it's been so long since I've used that feature that you shouldn't believe me. | 06:23 |
| apoca | :) | 06:24 |
| apoca | Hm, and no option to have transparent active windows by default? | 06:25 |
| TheSheep | apoca: no, there are only sane settings :) | 06:25 |
| apoca | ok, but thank you all | 06:25 |
| Grey_Loki | Heh | 06:26 |
| Grey_Loki | TheSheep has a point | 06:26 |
| TheSheep | apoca: you can make the termnal transparent by default with an option in the terminal itself | 06:26 |
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| apoca | But that's only pseudo-tranparency | 06:26 |
| BrendanM | thanks grazie | 06:26 |
| TheSheep | apoca: not anymore :) | 06:27 |
| TheSheep | apoca: with xfce 4.4 it's real one | 06:28 |
| Sharn | Not fair... | 06:28 |
| Sharn | Gnome's is lame. Only shows the background. | 06:29 |
| apoca | Ok, I still have xfce 4.2 | 06:30 |
| grazie | BrendanM: np | 06:30 |
| grazie | TheSheep: does the pseudo transparency work on dapper? | 06:30 |
| TheSheep | grazie: yes | 06:31 |
| grazie | good | 06:31 |
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| Rippawallet | hey | 06:33 |
| Rippawallet | how do i reinstall grub | 06:33 |
| Rippawallet | ? | 06:34 |
| Rippawallet | how do i reinstall grub | 06:34 |
| Rippawallet | i accidently deleted it | 06:34 |
| Rippawallet | _ | 06:34 |
| Rippawallet | TheSheep, you always are good :D | 06:34 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | !grub | 06:35 |
| ubotu | grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 06:35 |
| Rippawallet | thanks | 06:35 |
| Rippawallet | also | 06:35 |
| Rippawallet | at the top | 06:35 |
| Rippawallet | it doesnt say applications | 06:35 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | The first link should have the info you need. | 06:35 |
| Rippawallet | only the firefox logo | 06:35 |
| TheSheep | Rippawallet: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation | 06:36 |
| Rippawallet | ok | 06:37 |
| Rippawallet | ill boot up livecdf | 06:37 |
| Rippawallet | livecd | 06:38 |
| Rippawallet | sec | 06:38 |
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| Sharn | Hmmmm. Kepp getting up to 33% CPU doing nothing with the kernel update.. | 06:46 |
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| TheSheep | Sharn: open terminal and type 'top' | 06:49 |
| TheSheep | Sharn: and see what takes the processor power | 06:49 |
| Sharn | Handy, thanks TheSheep. It actually got down to 2-8% | 06:58 |
| Sharn | I think it's Exaile... | 06:59 |
| TheSheep | ugh | 06:59 |
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| j1mc | hey all, when i go to install xubuntu herd3, it sees my IDE drives as SCSI drives | 07:08 |
| j1mc | at least, i think so . . . | 07:09 |
| j1mc | it shows SCSI1 | 07:09 |
| slow-motion | it's not a bug, it's a feature | 07:09 |
| Sharn | xD | 07:09 |
| Sharn | Will it work that way? | 07:09 |
| j1mc | slow-motion, how do you know? | 07:09 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 07:10 |
| slow-motion | just guess | 07:10 |
| j1mc | just guess? | 07:10 |
| Sharn | If it works that way, nothing's wrong. :) | 07:10 |
| j1mc | will it mess up my drives if i try to complete the install that way? | 07:10 |
| j1mc | i'm just at the partitioning step right now. | 07:11 |
| Sharn | That's a good question. I don't know the answer,t hough. | 07:11 |
| j1mc | i'll ask my local glug friends. see what they say? | 07:11 |
| j1mc | or, rather, see what they say. (w/o the question mark.) :-) | 07:12 |
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| superkirbyartist | Hi, I am trying to access Ethernet for ubuntu server. | 07:14 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | j1mc: It's a feature - the kernel uses the scsi subsystem for all drives now. | 07:15 |
| Sharn | Neat | 07:15 |
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| j1mc | PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks. | 07:16 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | (It's better designed, easier to maintain, and switching was easier than fixing the old ide system.) | 07:16 |
| superkirbyartist | How can I access the Internet from Ubuntu server? | 07:17 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | The older system is still present, at least in the stock kernel, in case you find any issues with the newer one. | 07:17 |
| Grey_Loki | superkirbyartist, what does 'ifconfig' say> | 07:17 |
| Grey_Loki | ? | 07:17 |
| superkirbyartist | BRB Grey_Loki | 07:18 |
| Grey_Loki | In that case, i'd say that you have a problem. | 07:18 |
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| j1mc | PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks again . . . | 07:20 |
| superkirbyartist | Grey_Loki it says "invalid command" | 07:20 |
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| omgsunny | hello i installed ubuntu firstly, but then i installed xubuntu-desktop. so how do i get rid of ubuntu? | 07:21 |
| superkirbyartist | Do I need to reinstall? | 07:22 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Did you typo the command? | 07:22 |
| superkirbyartist | Yes, it says invalid command pumpernickle | 07:23 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | By 'typo' I mean 'misspell'. | 07:23 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | ifconfig is part of the base system, so it's extremely unlikely that it's not present. | 07:24 |
| superkirbyartist | Be right back. | 07:27 |
| superkirbyartist | Everything was typed correctly. | 07:28 |
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| grazie | omgsunny: you don't want to remove ubuntu. I suspect you may want to remove gnome? | 07:30 |
| grazie | impatience is not a virtue | 07:30 |
| Sharn | omgsunny: You should have no problem removing Gnome. That's 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' | 07:31 |
| grazie | Sharn: he's gone | 07:32 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Sharn: Not quite. That only removes the meta-package. | 07:32 |
| Sharn | Doh | 07:32 |
| Sharn | Foine. Make me look more dumb. ^_^ | 07:32 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | There's unfortunately no 'sane' way of removing it. | 07:32 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 07:32 |
| Sharn | Who's 'sane' anymore anyway... | 07:32 |
| grazie | not me | 07:33 |
| Sharn | -raises hand- Me either. ^_^ | 07:33 |
| Sharn | Ugh. Where do I get the beta or whatever Xubuntu? | 07:34 |
| Sharn | Holy crap. 4800 people on the Ubuntu forums... | 07:35 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ | 07:35 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | That's the latest Feisty image. | 07:36 |
| grazie | PuMpErNiCkLe: & Sharn nothing in current (kernel problem?)...http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/20070209 has the latest | 07:38 |
| Sharn | How much more resource intensive is Fiesty going to be? | 07:38 |
| grazie | Sharn: more resource intensive? Why do you think this? | 07:39 |
| Sharn | Uhm... | 07:39 |
| Sharn | Is it on a newer kernel? | 07:39 |
| grazie | Sharn: don't follow? | 07:40 |
| Sharn | Newer kernels are usually more resource intensive, no? Rofl... Every other distro gets bigger and more resource intensive every release... | 07:40 |
| grazie | Sharn: Ubuntu IS NOT Windoze | 07:41 |
| Sharn | I know that. xD | 07:41 |
| slow-motion | n8 | 07:41 |
| grazie | Sharn: suse & FC maybe | 07:42 |
| Sharn | Yeah... Those are the ones I saw. Does Ubuntu not? | 07:42 |
| grazie | imho...no | 07:43 |
| Sharn | Alright. Maybe I'll test it on my laptop first... | 07:43 |
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| REDma1 | hi | 07:50 |
| REDma1 | anyone awake? | 07:51 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | !anyone | 07:51 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 07:51 |
| REDma1 | I am trying to install nvidia legacy stuff | 07:51 |
| REDma1 | but half of the packages times out | 07:51 |
| REDma1 | so the package manager is nice | 07:51 |
| REDma1 | but I really dont know what to do when it doesnt work.. | 07:51 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Which mirror are you downloading from? | 07:52 |
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| REDma1 | Not that I know how to change it so it's defaulting I guess | 07:52 |
| REDma1 | but here | 07:52 |
| REDma1 | W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_2.6.17.1-11.35_i386.deb | 07:52 |
| grazie | REDma1: I think the security server is down...I've had probables too | 07:53 |
| grazie | REDma1: but you'll not be getting the driver from there anyway | 07:54 |
| REDma1 | @ubotu: people tend to do that to find out if users are sleeping or not, before they type long questions and no one answers :P | 07:54 |
| REDma1 | o is that so.. too bad | 07:54 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | grazie: He'd need the matching kernel to go with the driver, though. | 07:54 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | REDma1: No one will answer if you don't ask a question, though. | 07:55 |
| grazie | PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah I realise that. this kernel thing needs sorting | 07:55 |
| REDma1 | I'm not a complete linux noob but kind of.. I always worked on computers that were readily configured and besides im totally new to xubuntu.. so if the package manager fails on me Im in trouble | 07:55 |
| REDma1 | true that PN :) | 07:55 |
| REDma1 | Any idea to fetch nvidia required packages some other way? | 07:56 |
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| SANman | ok | 07:57 |
| sacater | you want nvidia? | 07:57 |
| SANman | (I dont understand gaim either :P I am nickserving but it keeps calling me RED :P) | 07:57 |
| SANman | yes | 07:57 |
| sacater | go to #sacater and ill give u the commands | 07:57 |
| SANman | I tried before manually and screwed it all up :P | 07:57 |
| SANman | ok | 07:57 |
| grazie | REDma1: the problem is that the kernel must match the driver and there's been a problem with the recent kenrel release | 07:58 |
| grazie | SANman: maybe best to just wait a few days | 08:00 |
| j1mc | PuMpErNiCkLe, the xubuntu herd3 install went fine. :-) thanks for the tip. | 08:00 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | np | 08:01 |
| j1mc | i'm helping out a bit with xubuntu documentation, so i wanted to make sure i was working from the standard install. | 08:02 |
| SANman | gazie: I dont have the newest kernel, just 6.10 | 08:07 |
| SANman | the newest is something.something.11 | 08:07 |
| Sharn | They just had a kernel update for 6.10 | 08:12 |
| sacater | im using .11 | 08:12 |
| Sharn | To .11, I'm pretty sure. | 08:13 |
| sacater | yeh i got it this morning | 08:13 |
| Sharn | They had it locked in the update manager for half a week. :P | 08:13 |
| xfceubuntu | xfce 4.4 documentation is available in any website? | 08:14 |
| grazie | SANman: the problem is that your nvidia driver has to match your kernel...it's giving some people a lot of hassle | 08:16 |
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| grazie | xfceubuntu: xfce.org | 08:17 |
| xfceubuntu | :)) | 08:17 |
| xfceubuntu | sorry xubuntu documentation with xfce4.4 | 08:17 |
| xfceubuntu | i don't found anywhere | 08:17 |
| LordGamer | well I am about ready to abandon ubuntu stupid ATI | 08:18 |
| grazie | LordGamer: hang on a minute | 08:18 |
| grazie | xfceubuntu: xubuntu isn't using xfce4.4 yet | 08:18 |
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| Sharn | ATI is retarted. ^_^ | 08:19 |
| Sharn | So it's not Ubuntu's fault. =P | 08:19 |
| LordGamer | lol Sharn | 08:19 |
| LordGamer | yea I agree | 08:19 |
| grazie_ | LordGamer: came across this after our chat https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI | 08:20 |
| Sharn | You may be able to set back your kernel. I'd have no idea how, but... | 08:20 |
| grazie_ | LordGamer: Have you read this one? | 08:20 |
| LordGamer | no I dont think so | 08:20 |
| xfceubuntu | and isn't there 4.4 for edgy? | 08:21 |
| grazie_ | xfceubuntu: no. 4.4 will be in feisty | 08:21 |
| Sharn | You can probably install 4.4, but it doesn't come with it. That's what I'm gathering. ^_^ | 08:21 |
| geo- | what's so good about 4.4? | 08:22 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | 4.4 is in feisty. | 08:22 |
| Sharn | I agree ^ | 08:22 |
| Sharn | Lol... | 08:22 |
| xfceubuntu | only i try it | 08:22 |
| Sharn | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251350&highlight=b-focus+xubuntu | 08:22 |
| Sharn | Boomp | 08:22 |
| xfceubuntu | i don't want wait for the feisty | 08:23 |
| Sharn | Maybe that won't work... | 08:23 |
| LordGamer | sad thing is all I want to dual manitors and smooth movement :( gothe the movement but no dual | 08:23 |
| LordGamer | oh well mpre reading :) | 08:24 |
| Sharn | xfceubuntu: that link I pasted may work for you. | 08:24 |
| xfceubuntu | thanx Sharn | 08:25 |
| Sharn | Yep | 08:25 |
| SANman | where can I get the older kernel ehadeer? | 08:26 |
| SANman | headers*? | 08:26 |
| Sharn | With the right apt-get :P | 08:27 |
| SANman | I got 2.6.17-10-generic | 08:31 |
| SANman | but the nvidia-glx-config sais | 08:31 |
| SANman | Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed | 08:31 |
| SANman | the nvidia driver for your running kernel. | 08:31 |
| LordGamer | ok I am off to try this tut | 08:35 |
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| SANman | nvidia-bug-report.sh nvidia-glx-config | 08:40 |
| SANman | sander@RED266:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable | 08:40 |
| SANman | Password: | 08:40 |
| SANman | Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed | 08:40 |
| SANman | the nvidia driver for your running kernel. | 08:40 |
| SANman | oops sorry wrong window | 08:40 |
| SANman | but feel free to help ;_)\\_) | 08:41 |
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| SANman | people | 08:55 |
| SANman | !anyone | 08:55 |
| ubotu | A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 08:55 |
| SANman | how I update kernel? | 08:55 |
| SANman | I tried 341 things but nvidia-glx-config keeps whining | 08:55 |
| SANman | maybe I should try the .11 one | 08:55 |
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| LordGamer | hi all | 09:20 |
| LordGamer | grazie? | 09:20 |
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| grazie | LordGamer: hi | 09:22 |
| LordGamer | hi I just wanted to say thanks I got the dual monitors working :) | 09:22 |
| grazie | LordGamer: great news | 09:23 |
| LordGamer | yup :) | 09:23 |
| grazie | LordGamer: the link was good? | 09:23 |
| LordGamer | yea I had to combine it wwith a few others but ti was good | 09:23 |
| grazie | LordGamer: the net is a wonderful thing! | 09:24 |
| LordGamer | hehe sure is :D next is to see what TV capture program is the best and how to install my cap card drbers then I am all set to say bye bye Bill! | 09:25 |
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| grazie | LordGamer: TvTime is popular. xawtv can record, there are others too...right up MythTV for complete entertainment | 09:28 |
| LordGamer | now I can ask simple or building questions like what IRC client does everyone use? | 09:28 |
| LordGamer | ah cool grazie | 09:28 |
| LordGamer | I tried MythTV but there is a complete .deb | 09:28 |
| LordGamer | is no* | 09:28 |
| grazie | MythTV is big though | 09:29 |
| LordGamer | got database errors and only got a far as the wake on lan part | 09:29 |
| LordGamer | yea | 09:29 |
| cyberyak | LordGamer, I use xchat for IRC | 09:29 |
| LordGamer | I just need something that can record in an Mpeg format | 09:29 |
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| LordGamer | ok thats what I am using now | 09:30 |
| cyberyak | graphical and mIRC like to an extent. | 09:30 |
| cyberyak | and open. | 09:30 |
| cyberyak | and available for both windows and linux. | 09:30 |
| LordGamer | there is no place to put in scripts I dont think like MIRC | 09:30 |
| cyberyak | yes, scripts in perl, python, ruby....maybe others. | 09:31 |
| LordGamer | just text scriot like join scripts tho | 09:31 |
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| cyberyak | under the XChat menu, Load Plugin or Script | 09:31 |
| LordGamer | just so I can join multiple channels/rooms | 09:31 |
| noname | in "Setting Manager" there is "User interface settings" and "Window manager settings". what are those? and if I download a theme, where is it I choose it? | 09:31 |
| cyberyak | LordGamer, I think it's fully extensible. I don't do anything like that, but I was under the impression that you could. | 09:33 |
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| LordGamer | ok I will have to look around | 09:33 |
| cyberyak | good luck. | 09:36 |
| cyberyak | I'm back to lurking for a bit. | 09:36 |
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| noname | I have downloaded icons from xfce-look.org. where am I going to put them to get them to work? is it in /usr/share/icons/ ? | 09:40 |
| grazie | noname: if you don't already have it...'mkdir ~/.themes' and put your theme in there | 09:46 |
| noname | grazie: is that where I put the themes? or just the icon-themes? | 09:48 |
| grazie | noname: what have you downloaded exactly | 09:51 |
| noname | grazie: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=38852 | 09:53 |
| noname | grazie: and http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=23297 | 09:54 |
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| grazie | noname: your theme in ~/.themes .... 'mkdir ~/.icon-themes' and icon theme in there | 09:56 |
| grazie | noname: not done it before so I'm no expert! :) | 09:56 |
| LordGamer | anyone know how to remove options from Grub? | 09:57 |
| sacater | icons go in .icons in your home folder | 09:58 |
| sacater | thats what my 'tango' icons are doing | 09:58 |
| grazie | LordGamer: edit /etc/grub/menu.lst | 09:58 |
| LordGamer | cool thanks | 09:58 |
| sacater | grazie: i thought it was /boot/grub/menu.lst | 09:58 |
| grazie | sacater: yes your quite right | 09:59 |
| sacater | ah | 09:59 |
| sacater | so were both right :S | 09:59 |
| grazie | LordGamer: ^^ | 09:59 |
| LordGamer | hehe thanks ;) | 09:59 |
| sacater | pleasure | 09:59 |
| grazie | sacater: no you're right. I'm wrong | 09:59 |
| sacater | now if youll excuse me i have more homework to do | 09:59 |
| sacater | oh | 09:59 |
| sacater | ty | 09:59 |
| sacater | :D | 09:59 |
| sacater | LordGamer | 10:00 |
| sacater | look above about 6lines | 10:00 |
| LordGamer | and? | 10:00 |
| sacater | its /boot/grub/menu.lst | 10:01 |
| sacater | theres instructions in that file on how to mod grub | 10:01 |
| noname | grazie: okey. thanks. but where do I change what theme I want to use? | 10:01 |
| LordGamer | yea I know I am looking at it now but I am not sure what it eidt so I may not touch it | 10:01 |
| sacater | LordGamer: what are you trying to change? | 10:01 |
| LordGamer | I have 3 Linux boot options the first one is this isnall but I have to remove 2 | 10:02 |
| grazie | noname: themes...Applications > Settings > Desktop Settings | 10:02 |
| sacater | ?? | 10:02 |
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| sacater | that makes no sense LordGamer | 10:02 |
| LordGamer | lol | 10:02 |
| LordGamer | 3 installs of linux 2 are ghosts | 10:03 |
| sacater | LordGamer: i know how to do it, but ask in #grub | 10:03 |
| grazie | noname: icons...Application > Settings > User Interface Setting | 10:03 |
| LordGamer | meh | 10:03 |
| sacater | LordGamer: thats MY favourite word :P | 10:04 |
| LordGamer | lol | 10:04 |
| sacater | i can be EXTREAMly random too | 10:04 |
| grazie | LordGamer: when you boot your machine you get a menu | 10:04 |
| sacater | shall i demenstrate? | 10:04 |
| noname | grazie: I cant change anything like themes in desktop settings. just wallpaper and so | 10:04 |
| LordGamer | right grazie | 10:05 |
| grazie | LordGamer: each menu entry matches a 'title' in menu,lst | 10:05 |
| LordGamer | ok I see that | 10:05 |
| sacater | yeh just remove them | 10:06 |
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| sacater | RANDOM: i was abducted by alien koalas dressed in skimpy outfits | 10:06 |
| grazie | noname: sorry yes. both themes and icons in Application > Settings > User Interface Setting | 10:06 |
| grazie | LordGamer: just curious....what are thinking of removing | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | bleh I have to be root | 10:07 |
| grazie | LordGamer: of course | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | yea | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386 | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | root(hd0,1) | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386 | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | quiet | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | savedefault | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | boot | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-386 (recovery mode) | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | root(hd0,1) | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro single | 10:07 |
| LordGamer | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-386 | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | boot | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | root(hd0,1) | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | quiet | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | savedefault | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | boot | 10:08 |
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| LordGamer | titleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (recovery mode) | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | root(hd0,1) | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro single | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic | 10:08 |
| LordGamer | above that it is title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-11-generic | 10:08 |
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| sacater | can i have xubuntu op status? | 10:08 |
| sacater | im experianced with IRC | 10:08 |
| === mode/#xubuntu [-o TheSheep] by TheSheep | ||
| sacater | and i have my own channel | 10:08 |
| noname | graze: thanks. I'll try that | 10:09 |
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| LordGamer | oops lol | 10:09 |
| TheSheep | LordGamer: sorry, had to stop you ;) | 10:09 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | Pastebin next time, please. | 10:09 |
| LordGamer | np | 10:09 |
| grazie | !pastebin | LordGamer | 10:09 |
| ubotu | LordGamer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 10:09 |
| LordGamer | pastebin? | 10:10 |
| LordGamer | ah | 10:10 |
| LordGamer | ok sorry | 10:10 |
| grazie | no worries | 10:10 |
| sacater | OR you can use rafb.net/paste | 10:10 |
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| LordGamer | ok I will know that next time | 10:10 |
| LordGamer | or do you want a full post? | 10:11 |
| Sharn | Back again. :O | 10:11 |
| grazie | LordGamer: no it's there now | 10:11 |
| LordGamer | ok\ | 10:11 |
| grazie | LordGamer: you should keep (recovery mode) | 10:11 |
| LordGamer | even for 10? | 10:12 |
| grazie | ? | 10:12 |
| sacater | yes | 10:12 |
| sacater | lordgamer dear god yes | 10:12 |
| sacater | recovery is so important | 10:12 |
| PuMpErNiCkLe | You should keep all valid entries. | 10:12 |
| LordGamer | title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic is old and so is everything else with title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10 | 10:13 |
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| LordGamer | but I shouls still keep the recovery? | 10:13 |
| Sharn | I've used recovery 3 times since I left. xD | 10:13 |
| sacater | sorry about my bot login | 10:13 |
| LordGamer | there is a title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-11 recovery | 10:13 |
| sacater | leave that | 10:14 |
| Sharn | I would leave it. | 10:14 |
| sacater | kep recovery | 10:14 |
| grazie | LordGamer: how many times? | 10:14 |
| sacater | what Sharn said | 10:14 |
| Sharn | Especially if your messing with xorg.conf. xD | 10:14 |
| sacater | oh yeah | 10:14 |
| sacater | is SANman | 10:14 |
| sacater | stillhere | 10:14 |
| sacater | oh | 10:14 |
| Sharn | Nope | 10:14 |
| sacater | he was having trouble installed nvidia legacy drivers | 10:15 |
| sacater | he got nvidia-glx-legacy | 10:15 |
| sacater | but couldnt activate them | 10:15 |
| sacater | or merge them with the xerver | 10:15 |
| Sharn | Hmmm. | 10:15 |
| sacater | xserver | 10:15 |
| grazie | LordGamer: if you've got 10 menu items pastebin the file | 10:15 |
| LordGamer | Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10 shows up 4 times | 10:15 |
| sacater | LordGamer | 10:15 |
| sacater | how have u got 10 entrues | 10:15 |
| sacater | entries* | 10:15 |
| Sharn | Ouch. Mine has two of each, not 4... | 10:15 |
| sacater | have u been ugrading since 4.10 or something | 10:16 |
| sacater | 10 kernels | 10:16 |
| Sharn | Rofl. | 10:16 |
| sacater | jeez | 10:16 |
| LordGamer | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5122/ | 10:16 |
| sacater | well | 10:16 |
| sacater | more like 4 | 10:16 |
| sacater | cos of recovery and that | 10:16 |
| Sharn | Holy cow. | 10:17 |
| Grey_Loki | How can I set Xubuntu to not do anything when I close my laptop's lid? | 10:17 |
| sacater | ?? | 10:17 |
| Sharn | You have like 4 blocks of the exact same thing | 10:18 |
| sacater | Grey_Loki disable lock, or use schedule | 10:18 |
| Sharn | Maybe not... | 10:18 |
| grazie | LordGamer: how many distros do you have working on the machine? and are you keeping XP? | 10:18 |
| LordGamer | keeping XP for now and just Ubuntu once | 10:18 |
| Grey_Loki | sacater, disable what, or use who? | 10:19 |
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| Sharn | Rofl. | 10:19 |
| grazie | LordGamer: how many other distros on the machine though? | 10:19 |
| LordGamer | none | 10:19 |
| sacater | Grey_Loki: disable screensaver or whatever it is happens when ur laptop lid closes, or use a program called 'schedule' | 10:19 |
| Sharn | LordGamer: When you look at Grub, is there two recovery modes and two normal of the same thing? | 10:19 |
| LordGamer | yup | 10:19 |
| grazie | LordGamer: those other entries have come from somewhere? | 10:20 |
| Sharn | Exact same thing as me. xD | 10:20 |
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| sacater | LordGamer: could anything have tampered with menu.lst | 10:20 |
| LordGamer | reinstalls frome mess ups | 10:20 |
| Sharn | My thing was I re-installed. | 10:20 |
| Sharn | Yeah ^ | 10:20 |
| Sharn | On the pastebin | 10:20 |
| Grey_Loki | sacater, yeah, i'm asking HOW you stop it from doing anything when you close the lid? | 10:21 |
| Grey_Loki | I.e, just turn off the screen, not go into suspend mode or anything... | 10:21 |
| sacater | Grey_loki: okay calm down | 10:21 |
| Sharn | You should eb able to delete 2-3 | 10:21 |
| Sharn | line 2-30 | 10:21 |
| Grey_Loki | sacater, i'm not getting aggressive... | 10:21 |
| sacater | Grey_Loki: search through options and disable screensavers and that | 10:21 |
| LordGamer | the first one is the one that works | 10:21 |
| Sharn | Err. Ok | 10:21 |
| sacater | or snap the laptop close sensor out :P | 10:21 |
| Sharn | They'll both work, but that's fine | 10:22 |
| Grey_Loki | Heh | 10:22 |
| LordGamer | so 29 and on? | 10:22 |
| LordGamer | to winbdows | 10:22 |
| LordGamer | windows | 10:22 |
| Sharn | 31 - 57 | 10:22 |
| LordGamer | ok cool thanks | 10:22 |
| Sharn | Mmhmm. | 10:22 |
| Sharn | Keep a backup | 10:22 |
| Sharn | :) | 10:22 |
| LordGamer | lol now I want a second opinion | 10:22 |
| Sharn | xD | 10:23 |
| Sharn | That's completely fair. | 10:23 |
| sacater | LordGamer: Screw that, do what he says | 10:23 |
| grazie | LordGamer: I'd edit to this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5123/. keep a backup and check it yourself | 10:23 |
| Sharn | Make a backup real quick any, though... | 10:23 |
| LordGamer | just backup the menu list file? | 10:23 |
| Sharn | Where is that file again? | 10:23 |
| Sharn | Yeah.. I'll give you the command if I know where it is. :P | 10:24 |
| grazie | LordGamer: yep | 10:24 |
| sacater | /boot/grub/menu.lst | 10:24 |
| Sharn | I've never messed with grub. | 10:24 |
| Sharn | Thanks sacater | 10:24 |
| LordGamer | if grub fails tho whats the backing up the file gonig to do? | 10:24 |
| grazie | grazie: hey guys your not making this easy | 10:24 |
| Sharn | Good point. :) | 10:24 |
| Sharn | LordGamer: Boot into windows and you can fix it. | 10:24 |
| Sharn | But anyway, it'll work. | 10:24 |
| sacater | LordGamerL DUH MOUNT the hdd from a live cd and work with it | 10:25 |
| LordGamer | can Windows see ex3? | 10:25 |
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| LordGamer | ah true sacater | 10:25 |
| sacater | :D | 10:25 |
| sacater | i aim to please :D | 10:25 |
| Sharn | If you get a driver. I work with ext2 as My Documents. ^_^ | 10:25 |
| sacater | and im also glad to be of help | 10:25 |
| sacater | :D | 10:25 |
| grazie | LordGamer: it's just standard good practice...everyone can make mistakes | 10:25 |
| LordGamer | lol I can see that and you can see that I do :P | 10:25 |
| Sharn | sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup | 10:26 |
| sacater | Sharn: yep go for it | 10:26 |
| Sharn | For backup. ^ | 10:26 |
| sacater | yep | 10:26 |
| sacater | go for it | 10:26 |
| LordGamer | thanks all :) I will do that when I reboot and get to root | 10:26 |
| Sharn | Heh. | 10:26 |
| sacater | LordGamer: good luck! | 10:26 |
| Sharn | I'll probably fix mine real quick... | 10:26 |
| LordGamer | Im not going to right now :P | 10:26 |
| sacater | LordGamer: and you probably borked it so well chat to you on another xubuntu install :P | 10:27 |
| sacater | oh | 10:27 |
| sacater | okies | 10:27 |
| LordGamer | :O | 10:27 |
| LordGamer | :( | 10:27 |
| sacater | it may interest people that i am not using xubuntu, im using ubuntu with xfce ported on top :D | 10:27 |
| Sharn | He's messing with you. xD | 10:27 |
| LordGamer | :P | 10:27 |
| sacater | :D | 10:28 |
| sacater | i still have gnome available and all that | 10:28 |
| Sharn | Ficksed | 10:28 |
| Sharn | Mine was a lot simpler, actually. | 10:28 |
| LordGamer | so has anyone captured TV in Linux? | 10:29 |
| Sharn | I like messing things up in config files. Great way to learn. ^_^ | 10:29 |
| sacater | LordGamer: yesm | 10:29 |
| Sharn | LordGamer: You have a tv tuner card? | 10:29 |
| LordGamer | yup | 10:29 |
| Sharn | Ooooh. | 10:29 |
| sacater | me too | 10:29 |
| LordGamer | Kworld ATSC 110 | 10:29 |
| Sharn | http://www.mythtv.org/ | 10:29 |
| LordGamer | what does everyone use to cap? | 10:29 |
| sacater | ?? | 10:30 |
| Sharn | Hmmm. You'll have to find a driver... | 10:30 |
| LordGamer | I was looking for something not so big I dont want a full TV box | 10:30 |
| Sharn | MythTv is awesome, though. xD | 10:30 |
| Sharn | That's about all I know of, though. | 10:30 |
| LordGamer | sacater, what di yiu use? | 10:31 |
| LordGamer | do you | 10:31 |
| sacater | mythtv | 10:31 |
| sacater | who here prefers to compile programs from source? | 10:31 |
| Sharn | xD | 10:31 |
| LordGamer | I tried Myth but I just get the config part for the mySQL and such | 10:32 |
| Sharn | I like to compile programs occasionally. | 10:32 |
| sacater | i compile when almsot all the time | 10:32 |
| Sharn | It rarely works right for me, though. :( | 10:32 |
| sacater | im almost running ubuntu xfce all compiled | 10:32 |
| Sharn | Always something missing... | 10:32 |
| sacater | Sharn | 10:32 |
| Sharn | Yes? | 10:32 |
| sacater | then get the other packages | 10:32 |
| sacater | abiword was good at compiling | 10:33 |
| LordGamer | someone should add myth to Automatix :P | 10:33 |
| Sharn | I did. Like Battle for Wesnoth. It keeps telling me "libsdl" or something is missing and I've checked about 10 times. | 10:33 |
| Sharn | So I had to go with the ancient one in the repos. | 10:33 |
| Sharn | =\ | 10:33 |
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| cellofellow | does anybody here know anything about svgalib? | 10:35 |
| Sharn | Nope. =\ | 10:35 |
| Sharn | I don't. xD | 10:35 |
| cellofellow | ok | 10:35 |
| Sharn | Found a website for it | 10:35 |
| Sharn | I imagine you've seen that... | 10:36 |
| cellofellow | to anyone else, does it happen to run in linux console framebuffer? that's what I'm trying to do but it didn't work. | 10:36 |
| cellofellow | what website? | 10:36 |
| Sharn | http://www.svgalib.org/ | 10:36 |
| cellofellow | k | 10:36 |
| sacater | 01welp.co.uk/~sacater | 10:36 |
| Sharn | :O | 10:37 |
| sacater | sharn go to gftp.org | 10:37 |
| sacater | thats easy to compile | 10:37 |
| Sharn | Woo! | 10:38 |
| cellofellow | Seveas has a version in his repository with SSL support. | 10:38 |
| cellofellow | !seveas | 10:38 |
| ubotu | Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | 10:38 |
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| Sharn | Jester's back... | 10:39 |
| Jester45 | yep | 10:39 |
| Sharn | I love this "must be virus free" Vista commercial. | 10:40 |
| Jester45 | ?? | 10:40 |
| cellofellow | link? | 10:40 |
| Sharn | It's on Tv. :P | 10:40 |
| cellofellow | no flash version online somewhere? Google Video maybe? | 10:41 |
| Jester45 | and... | 10:41 |
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| Sharn | I dunno. | 10:41 |
| Sharn | Just... funny Dell would call Vista virus free. | 10:41 |
| cellofellow | Vista won't be virus free for long, I think. | 10:42 |
| Sharn | Probably already isn't, would be my guess. | 10:42 |
| LordGamer | XChat doesnt have Cascading Windows like MIRC does it? | 10:43 |
| Sharn | No clue. Never used it. I use GAIM for IRC | 10:44 |
| Sharn | Even gFTP won't compile. xD | 10:44 |
| Jester45 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTlg5Kkqu4M | 10:45 |
| cellofellow | cool | 10:45 |
| sacater | sharn: ive compiled gajim, gftp and even galeon | 10:45 |
| Jester45 | that one? | 10:45 |
| cellofellow | drat, in console and I can copy/paste between virtual terminals, but not between console and X. | 10:45 |
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| Sharn | Nope. It was a Dell commercial. :P | 10:45 |
| cellofellow | who need needs to compile Gajim? It's Python. | 10:45 |
| cellofellow | !build-essential | 10:46 |
| ubotu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) | 10:46 |
| Sharn | configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher | 10:46 |
| cellofellow | have that package? | 10:46 |
| Sharn | Yeah, I think I have build-essential... | 10:46 |
| Sharn | apt-get autoremove isn't going to break anything isw it? | 10:47 |
| Jester45 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV1kqthZf2g&mode=related&search= HAHAHAHA | 10:47 |
| Sharn | Same thing as 95? Or 98, whichever it was... | 10:48 |
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| Jester45 | Sharn: no it will not break anything | 10:49 |
| Jester45 | or... should not | 10:49 |
| Sharn | Mmk | 10:49 |
| Sharn | Rofl | 10:49 |
| Jester45 | the only way it will break somthing is if you have somthing installed that needs package A BUT its not marked at needed | 10:49 |
| LordGamer | anyone know an Alcohol 52% Linux alternative? | 10:50 |
| Sharn | LordGamer: | 10:50 |
| Sharn | Woopth | 10:50 |
| LordGamer | thanks | 10:50 |
| Jester45 | so apt things its not needed but if you installed everything on your system from the repos then your safe | 10:50 |
| Sharn | Linux has Iso mounting built in, if that's what yo're doing | 10:50 |
| LordGamer | ah really? | 10:50 |
| Sharn | Is it? Or building isos? | 10:50 |
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| Jester45 | LordGamer: whats 52% ? burning mounting makeing | 10:51 |
| LordGamer | just mounting ISO | 10:51 |
| Jester45 | yes that built in | 10:51 |
| Jester45 | just a sec | 10:51 |
| LordGamer | can you direct me to it? | 10:51 |
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| Sharn | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87369 | 10:51 |
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| Sharn | That's a script to let you jsut right click on isos and mount | 10:52 |
| LordGamer | I was hoping for a GUI | 10:52 |
| Sharn | Erm. Nevermind, that's nautilus | 10:52 |
| LordGamer | lol | 10:52 |
| Sharn | Well, it's a command line thing. But a short one. | 10:52 |
| LordGamer | ok | 10:52 |
| LordGamer | that should be ok | 10:52 |
| Jester45 | mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point | 10:52 |
| cellofellow | sudo | 10:53 |
| Jester45 | the mount point needs to be empty | 10:53 |
| Jester45 | and you might ned sudo | 10:53 |
| LordGamer | ;s | 10:53 |
| LordGamer | :s | 10:53 |
| Sharn | You probably will need sudo | 10:53 |
| Sharn | Does that work with nrg and others too? | 10:53 |
| Jester45 | others | 10:53 |
| Jester45 | with nero you need to do somthing else | 10:54 |
| LordGamer | http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Mount-ISO-image-2216.shtml I think this will do what I want | 10:54 |
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| Jester45 | just use the cli command its much faster and easier | 10:54 |
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| Sharn | Nice find. :) | 10:55 |
| Sharn | That's a way to test a repo cd... | 10:55 |
| Sharn | :P | 10:55 |
| Sharn | Argh. What is this glib package? >.< | 10:56 |
| Craig1 | i need help if someone has a second | 10:56 |
| cellofellow | Sharn: snoop around in the devel section of synaptic. | 10:56 |
| Sharn | Craig1: What you need help with? | 10:56 |
| Jester45 | jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/Stuffs/mount.sh is what i use | 10:56 |
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| Craig1 | i have a slave hard disk with XP and a master with Xubuntu...I installed the lilo synaptic packages...but i can't find it so that i can set up a dual boot | 10:57 |
| Sharn | Ooooh. Hmm. | 10:57 |
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| Sharn | You aren't using Grub? | 10:57 |
| cellofellow | Craig1: why not just use grub? | 10:57 |
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| Jester45 | you need to have xp installed first i think | 10:58 |
| Jester45 | b | 10:58 |
| cellofellow | there's a way to fool windows into thinking the second HDD is the first. | 10:58 |
| Craig1 | can i dual boot with grub? i thought that was what lilo was for | 10:58 |
| cellofellow | grub does it. | 10:58 |
| Jester45 | becuase windows notices that its not the only os and messes up | 10:58 |
| cellofellow | grub does way more than lilo. | 10:58 |
| Sharn | Craig1: Grub and Lilo do the same thing, for the most part. | 10:58 |
| Craig1 | can i keep linux as the master and xp as the slave? | 10:58 |
| Sharn | You should be able to.. I think. | 10:59 |
| cellofellow | you should be able to swing it. | 10:59 |
| Jester45 | !dualbootting | 10:59 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dualbootting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:59 |
| Jester45 | !dual-booting | 10:59 |
| Sharn | xD | 10:59 |
| cellofellow | !dual-boot | 10:59 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dual-booting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:59 |
| Jester45 | aa | 10:59 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dual-boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:59 |
| Sharn | !dualbooting | 10:59 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dualbooting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:59 |
| cellofellow | !grub | 10:59 |
| Sharn | Rofl | 10:59 |
| ubotu | grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 10:59 |
| Jester45 | !dual-dualbooting | 10:59 |
| Sharn | First link may help | 10:59 |
| Jester45 | aaaa omg | 10:59 |
| Sharn | Craig1: is Grub already installed? | 11:00 |
| Craig1 | i actually have them on 2 seperate hard drives | 11:00 |
| cellofellow | the HowTo may help. It should have stuff. | 11:00 |
| cellofellow | if he can boot linux, it's installed | 11:00 |
| Craig1 | yes...i am looking at the grub folder now | 11:00 |
| Craig1 | i am in linux right now | 11:00 |
| Sharn | Ok | 11:00 |
| Craig1 | one drive is xp and the other in xubuntu | 11:00 |
| cellofellow | there's a switch that grub can give windows to make it think it's on the first partition (C:) | 11:00 |
| Sharn | So it should be an edit to /boot/grub/menu.lst | 11:01 |
| cellofellow | yup | 11:01 |
| Sharn | I didn't know XP wouldn't boot on second drive.. | 11:01 |
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| Sharn | Lemme look around | 11:02 |
| Sharn | Does Grub trick XP by default, or no... anyone know? | 11:06 |
| cellofellow | no | 11:07 |
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| Sharn | Hmmm. Over my head then. | 11:08 |
| Sharn | title=Windows XP | 11:08 |
| Sharn | map (hd0) (hd1) | 11:08 |
| Sharn | map (hd1) (hd0) | 11:08 |
| Sharn | rootnoverify (hd1,1) | 11:08 |
| Sharn | makeactive | 11:08 |
| Sharn | chainloader +1 | 11:08 |
| Craig1 | if it's easier, i could just swap the drives around and make xp the master and linux the slave......should i do this? | 11:09 |
| Sharn | Meh. Kinda useless int he form. | 11:09 |
| Sharn | What I posted should work. | 11:09 |
| cellofellow | Craig1: you'd have to install Grub on the master disk. | 11:09 |
| Sharn | If you know how grub works? | 11:09 |
| Craig1 | it is on the master (which has only linux on it) | 11:09 |
| Sharn | The two map commands make Windows think it's on the first disk | 11:09 |
| cellofellow | grub is a mini-system that loads kernels and gives them options and stuff. | 11:10 |
| cellofellow | looks easy enough | 11:10 |
| Sharn | Craig1: He's saying, if you switched them, you would still have to install grub on the other drive. It must be on the primary dirve. | 11:10 |
| cellofellow | and make the timeout option like 30, and remove the hiddenmenu option | 11:10 |
| Craig1 | ok...i see | 11:10 |
| cellofellow | windows' bootloader will load only windows. Grub will load anything | 11:11 |
| Sharn | So... what you should probably do, is copy /boot/grub/menu.lst into a paste bin and let someone who knows how edit it for you | 11:11 |
| Craig1 | thanks....here it goes...if you don't see me until tomorrow....i really messed this up | 11:12 |
| Sharn | Well, ok.. | 11:12 |
| Sharn | You can always flip them and boot back to windows. :P | 11:12 |
| Sharn | In fact, you probably aught to do that... | 11:15 |
| cellofellow | let's try this first | 11:15 |
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| Sharn | Craig1: You still need help with that? | 11:23 |
| Craig1 | i thought cellofellow was going to say something else | 11:24 |
| cellofellow | no | 11:24 |
| Craig1 | ok.....thanks for your help guys | 11:24 |
| Sharn | Oh, rofl... | 11:24 |
| Sharn | I'll help if you want. I think I can get it. | 11:24 |
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| Sharn | Or not. :P | 11:25 |
| Sharn | I think I shall attempt getting "accelerated graphics" working again. | 11:26 |
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| Sharn | Ugh. Ati ftl. | 11:42 |
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| Sharn | Welcome back | 11:43 |
| Craig1 | thanks....i am now in XP | 11:43 |
| Sharn | Oh? | 11:43 |
| Sharn | Did it boot right from Grub? | 11:44 |
| Craig1 | but the boot screen went by too fast and i didn't see the option for linux | 11:44 |
| Sharn | Ooooh. You can change that. | 11:44 |
| Craig1 | it went to grub...and said hit ESC for menu in 30 seconds.... | 11:44 |
| Sharn | ...if you can get back into linux. Hmm. It may take a live cd. | 11:44 |
| Sharn | Oh, ok. | 11:44 |
| Craig1 | i hit escape multiple times, then it just gave me the XP options | 11:44 |
| Craig1 | i wonder if it is because this is a USB keyboard | 11:45 |
| Sharn | That could very likely be it, yeah. | 11:45 |
| LordGamer | mine is a USB Ketboard at it works fine | 11:45 |
| LordGamer | key | 11:45 |
| Craig1 | but i think i am on the right track now | 11:46 |
| Craig1 | i hope | 11:46 |
| Sharn | Well, if you can't get back to linux... Rofl. | 11:46 |
| Craig1 | that would be my luck | 11:46 |
| Sharn | No-one wants to be stuck in Windows. :) | 11:46 |
| Sharn | You can always boot a liveCD and fix it, though. | 11:46 |
| Sharn | Now is someone could make my dumb ATI card work... >., | 11:47 |
| Craig1 | i hate it...and ubuntu is the first linux version that i found that automatically found my usb printer, sd card reader, cd-dvd rw, etc | 11:47 |
| Craig1 | that livecd....is it the iso image i burned to try ubuntu? | 11:47 |
| LordGamer | I just got mine to work Sharn a few hours ago | 11:47 |
| Sharn | Yes - it is, Crag1. | 11:48 |
| Sharn | Craig1* If you burned the one that boots into Xfce | 11:48 |
| Craig1 | so i can boot off of that and it will give me the grub options? | 11:48 |
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| Rippawallet | hey | 11:49 |
| Sharn | Well, you can boot into that, mount your Linux partition and edit the grub options just like you did before. | 11:49 |
| Rippawallet | the thing that says applications at the top has gone, now it's only the firefox icon | 11:49 |
| Sharn | LordGamer: Is yours integrated, though? | 11:49 |
| Craig1 | oh...i got it | 11:49 |
| Craig1 | thanks again for everyones help | 11:49 |
| LordGamer | nope ATI 1900XT | 11:49 |
| Craig1 | i'll let you know how it turns out | 11:49 |
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| Sharn | Rippawallet: Right click on an empty piece and click add to panel | 11:49 |
| Sharn | Then choose Menu Bar | 11:50 |
| Rippawallet | uhm | 11:51 |
| Sharn | See, that's my problem. This is a "Radeon Xpress 200" | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | i accidently chose trash | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | twice | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | Xd | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | how do i remove it | 11:51 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 11:51 |
| Sharn | Right click on the icon and hit remove | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | XD | 11:51 |
| Sharn | Doh. I'm thinking Gnome. Is it the same? | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | oh yeah | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | thanks | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | :D | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | yeah | 11:51 |
| Sharn | Mmhmm | 11:51 |
| Sharn | No problem | 11:51 |
| Rippawallet | oh | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | there isnt one that says menu bar | 11:52 |
| Sharn | Ahhh. So it is slightly different from Gnome | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | right | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | i put | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | applications | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | on the right hand site | 11:52 |
| Sharn | There will be an equivalent, just keep looking. | 11:52 |
| === Rippawallet moves | ||
| Rippawallet | ah | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | i got it | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | thanks | 11:52 |
| Sharn | Good. :) | 11:52 |
| Rippawallet | :D | 11:52 |
| === Rippawallet wants something interesting to do | ||
| Sharn | Rofl | 11:54 |
| Sharn | That's why I'm here. Almost bored out of my mind. | 11:54 |
| Rippawallet | lol! | 11:54 |
| Sharn | That and frustrated with this dumb integrated ATI card. | 11:54 |
| === Rippawallet is here to make stupid mistakes and let people tell him how to fix them. | ||
| cyberyak | cool. | 11:54 |
| LordGamer | Sharn, compile a complete MythTV .deb for me then :P | 11:54 |
| Rippawallet | yeah man | 11:54 |
| Sharn | Hah. | 11:54 |
| cyberyak | sharn what modules have you tried for your card? | 11:55 |
| Sharn | It's not that hard, is it? | 11:55 |
| cyberyak | or do we call them drivers again. | 11:55 |
| Sharn | cyberyak: what do you mean by modules? Oh, rofl | 11:55 |
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| Rippawallet | hmmm | 11:55 |
| Sharn | I've tried the Radeon opensource and fglrs | 11:55 |
| Rippawallet | why isnt my wallpaper showing up | 11:55 |
| Sharn | fglrx* | 11:55 |
| Rippawallet | its just blue | 11:55 |
| Rippawallet | >:( | 11:55 |
| cyberyak | sharn try the ati | 11:55 |
| Sharn | About 10 different tuts... | 11:55 |
| Sharn | Just ati instead of radeon? | 11:56 |
| cyberyak | if radeon isn't working | 11:56 |
| Sharn | Which is what I'm using now... | 11:56 |
| === Rippawallet angry | ||
| Sharn | It just doesn't give me "accelerated graphics" | 11:56 |
| cyberyak | ahhh. | 11:56 |
| cyberyak | nvm then. | 11:56 |
| cyberyak | I thought it wasn't working at all. | 11:56 |
| Sharn | Rippawallet: try setting a new one... | 11:56 |
| Rippawallet | i have | 11:57 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 11:57 |
| Sharn | No, it's set for Radeon right now... | 11:57 |
| cyberyak | OHHHH. | 11:57 |
| Sharn | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy | 11:57 |
| Sharn | I went through that... | 11:57 |
| cyberyak | wait. the 200 integrated cards..... | 11:57 |
| LordGamer | Sharn, thats what all those reinstalls are from lol tryung ti get the ATI drivers to work | 11:57 |
| Sharn | Actually, that one is. xD | 11:57 |
| Sharn | I can recover from X not starting now, though... | 11:57 |
| === Rippawallet sets icon size to 192 | ||
| cyberyak | you may have to turn off something..... | 11:57 |
| Sharn | And yes - cyberyak, that's the one. | 11:58 |
| Rippawallet | ROFL | 11:58 |
| Rippawallet | icon size is 192 | 11:58 |
| Rippawallet | :D | 11:58 |
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| Sharn | Holy crap. 192... | 11:59 |
| Rippawallet | yeha | 11:59 |
| Rippawallet | they all pile | 11:59 |
| Rippawallet | on top of eachother | 11:59 |
| Rippawallet | :> | 11:59 |
| Rippawallet | whats default icon size | 12:00 |
| Rippawallet | >_< | 12:00 |
| Sharn | No idea, rofl.. | 12:00 |
| Sharn | Onn the desktop? | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | :( | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | yes | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 12:01 |
| Sharn | Probably 32x32 | 12:01 |
| Sharn | No.. | 12:01 |
| Sharn | 64x64 | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | no | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | like | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | you can choose | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | oh | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | right | 12:01 |
| Rippawallet | >_< | 12:01 |
| Sharn | Uhm... | 12:01 |
| Sharn | Lol... | 12:01 |
| Sharn | I think it's 64x64 | 12:01 |
| Sharn | I think I'll install xubuntu-desktop.... just for something new. | 12:02 |
| Sharn | Wtf... No package? | 12:02 |
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| === Rippawallet is silly | ||
| Sharn | xD | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | i set the screen resolution | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | to like | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | something huge | 12:03 |
| Sharn | mfao | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | and couldnt change back | 12:03 |
| Sharn | Lmfao* | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | and it logged me off | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | and all normal now | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | D: | 12:03 |
| Sharn | My monitor goes gay on me when mine goes above 1024x768 | 12:03 |
| Rippawallet | yeah | 12:03 |
| === Rippawallet laughs | ||
| Sharn | Bleeh. | 12:04 |
| Rippawallet | Hehe. | 12:04 |
| Sharn | Doesn't matter, since it's only 15"... | 12:04 |
| === Rippawallet likes breaking linux | ||
| Sharn | New experience? | 12:04 |
| === cyberyak finally got twin head working in xubuntu with my integrated LCD at 1440x1050 and external at 1600x1200 | ||
| Rippawallet | What | 12:04 |
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| Sharn | Is breaking Linux a new experience? xD | 12:04 |
| Rippawallet | err | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | kind | 12:05 |
| Sharn | cyberyak... that's insae. | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | i deleted grub earlier | 12:05 |
| CraigA | sharn....check this out | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | and couldnt boot up windoez | 12:05 |
| CraigA | i am now back in linux | 12:05 |
| Sharn | Lmfao! Nice | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | but i reinstalled | 12:05 |
| Sharn | To both of you. xD | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | with my leetness | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | lo | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | l | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | i did this sudo grub-install shit | 12:05 |
| Sharn | Nice, CraigA. | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | 8:D | 12:05 |
| CraigA | i took one of those usb-to-ps2 adapters and plugged my keyboard into it... | 12:05 |
| cyberyak | I've got a 21" CRT that will do 1920x1440 | 12:05 |
| Rippawallet | man with shades on head 8:D | 12:05 |
| cyberyak | I donn | 12:05 |
| CraigA | now i hit esc and i can choose xp or linux | 12:05 |
| Sharn | Yeah. I don't like using usb mice and keyboards. | 12:05 |
| CraigA | the f'n thing actually works | 12:06 |
| CraigA | i am so stoked | 12:06 |
| cyberyak | I don't know that *I* can do 1920x1440 | 12:06 |
| Sharn | PS/2 all the way | 12:06 |
| Sharn | 21".... not fair. | 12:06 |
| cyberyak | heheheh. Why? | 12:06 |
| Sharn | 15" sucks. | 12:06 |
| Sharn | xD | 12:06 |
| cyberyak | ahh. | 12:06 |
| cyberyak | so I shouldn | 12:06 |
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| Rippawallet | D: | 12:07 |
| Sharn | :O | 12:07 |
| Rippawallet | we are talking about our "areas" right? | 12:07 |
| === Sharn is took cheap to buy a new monitor | ||
| cyberyak | so I shouldn't point out that I have 6-21" CRTs sitting here. | 12:07 |
| Sharn | No, you probably shouldn't... | 12:07 |
| cyberyak | and this machine is running dual 19"LCDs | 12:07 |
| cyberyak | Ok, then, I won't. | 12:07 |
| Rippawallet | wow | 12:07 |
| Sharn | Unless you want my shipping address. ;) | 12:07 |
| Rippawallet | my wallpaper is leet | 12:07 |
| cyberyak | lol | 12:07 |
| Rippawallet | care to see | 12:07 |
| Sharn | Rofl... | 12:08 |
| Sharn | Mine is cooler. ^_^ | 12:08 |
| === Sharn is installing xubuntu-desktop right now | ||
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| Sharn | I havean icon for IE6 on my desktop, though. | 12:08 |
| CraigA | thanks again sharn....i appreciate your help | 12:09 |
| Sharn | The Linux gurus are gonna shun me. :O | 12:09 |
| Sharn | Your very welcome, CraigA | 12:09 |
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| Sharn | glad it works. ^_^ | 12:09 |
| Sharn | http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1189/screenshotuz8.png | 12:10 |
| Sharn | Desktop showoff ftw. ^_^ | 12:10 |
| Rippawallet | Sharn, trust | 12:10 |
| Rippawallet | look at this | 12:11 |
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| LordGamer | anyone know a linux alternative to DGIndex and MeGUI for Linux? | 12:11 |
| cyberyak | nice | 12:12 |
| Sharn | LordGamer: What exactly are those? xD | 12:12 |
| Rippawallet | what | 12:12 |
| LordGamer | Video encoding apps | 12:12 |
| Rippawallet | Sharn, you icons are a leet size | 12:12 |
| Sharn | xD | 12:12 |
| LordGamer | yup | 12:12 |
| cyberyak | what did you use to install IE? | 12:13 |
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| Sharn | MythTv sounds so cool. Wish I had a Tv tuner... | 12:13 |
| cyberyak | ies4linux? | 12:13 |
| cyberyak | or wineconfig and manual install. | 12:13 |
| Rippawallet | Sharn, ready for this? | 12:13 |
| Rippawallet | be warned | 12:13 |
| Rippawallet | it pwnz | 12:13 |
| Sharn | http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page | 12:13 |
| Sharn | Ready. | 12:13 |
| Sharn | ies4linux ^ | 12:13 |
| Rippawallet | http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7499/snapshot3vq0.png | 12:14 |
| Sharn | Neeeeat render. | 12:14 |
| Rippawallet | what | 12:14 |
| Sharn | The Ubuntu 2D render. :O | 12:14 |
| Sharn | 3D* | 12:14 |
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| Rippawallet | yeah | 12:14 |
| Rippawallet | it pwnz eh | 12:14 |
| Rippawallet | ;p | 12:14 |
| Sharn | That's awesome. | 12:14 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 12:15 |
| Rippawallet | now | 12:15 |
| Rippawallet | i want icons like yours | 12:15 |
| Rippawallet | :@ | 12:15 |
| cyberyak | so is ies4linux the suggested way to install IE6 now? I remember the wine guys frowning on it at one point. | 12:15 |
| Sharn | I still like my love snowballs, though. ^_^ | 12:15 |
| Rippawallet | ^____________________________^ | 12:15 |
| cyberyak | heheheheh | 12:15 |
| Sharn | cyberyak: I ahve no idea if it's a suggested way, but it works great. | 12:15 |
| cyberyak | I may actually have to add wallpaper....nah. | 12:15 |
| cyberyak | k, may have to do that. | 12:16 |
| Sharn | And Rippa - MSN ftw. xD | 12:16 |
| cyberyak | didn't they pull msstcorefonts | 12:16 |
| Sharn | Not sure... | 12:16 |
| cyberyak | rippa - msn? | 12:16 |
| Sharn | I concur. :) | 12:16 |
| Rippawallet | :d | 12:16 |
| Rippawallet | rippawallet0@hotmail.com | 12:16 |
| Rippawallet | amsn is weird | 12:16 |
| Sharn | xD | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | i have kopete | 12:17 |
| Sharn | I don't like aMSN | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | but it says everyone is offline | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | also | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | rippawallet@rippawallet.hax | 12:17 |
| Sharn | Get GAIM | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | is a custom one | 12:17 |
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| Sharn | .hax. xD | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | made using an exploit | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | :D | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | yeah | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | leik | 12:17 |
| Sharn | Rofl! | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | i have gaim | 12:17 |
| cyberyak | they don't actually have 1001 | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | but | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | gay im | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | lol | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | get it | 12:17 |
| Rippawallet | D: | 12:17 |
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| Sharn | I don't imagine... | 12:17 |
| Sharn | I prefer... uhm... | 12:17 |
| cyberyak | I got about 250 meg of free fonts off another site as well. | 12:18 |
| Sharn | Rofl... what's even the point? xD | 12:18 |
| cyberyak | got annoyed searching through their site. | 12:18 |
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| cyberyak | they have each font like 3 layers into the site. | 12:19 |
| === Sharn checks his graphics resource thread | ||
| cyberyak | well dinner is on. I gotta go. | 12:19 |
| TheSheep | these fonts are not really free | 12:19 |
| Sharn | Later cyberyak | 12:19 |
| cyberyak | msstcorefonts aren't free. | 12:19 |
| Sharn | http://www.dafont.com/ | 12:19 |
| TheSheep | no, I mean the fonts on those various 'free fonts sites' | 12:19 |
| Sharn | Dafont pwns. | 12:19 |
| cyberyak | :O | 12:19 |
| cyberyak | false advertising. | 12:20 |
| Sharn | Download that one. xD | 12:20 |
| TheSheep | they just upload whatever they get their hands on, without checking the license | 12:20 |
| cyberyak | oops. | 12:20 |
| cyberyak | hrm. | 12:20 |
| === cyberyak will sort it out later. | ||
| cyberyak | Dinner! | 12:20 |
| TheSheep | you can get in trouble if you use these fonts in any commercial design | 12:20 |
| Sharn | TheSheep: alot of them people submit, too.. | 12:21 |
| Sharn | I think... | 12:21 |
| Sharn | Yeah. a lot of them are user-submitted... | 12:21 |
| TheSheep | Sharn: sure, it's the same on "game sprites" sites -- a lot of sprites are submitted by users, who ripped them from games | 12:22 |
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| Rippawallet | hi | 12:22 |
| Jester45 | yea i been afk for a little but LordGamer having usb support at pre OS is only by your motherboard so... you have he doesnt lots of people dont have it | 12:22 |
| LordGamer | oh ok | 12:22 |
| Sharn | That makes sense. | 12:22 |
| Jester45 | you can get a usb to ps/2 its simple and works fine | 12:23 |
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