[12:15] <AWOSDev> Ace2016 ogm = pale yellow.  mkv = I have no clue what it is...question mark
[12:15] <AWOSDev> ?
[12:15] <cpk1> Alarm: probably because I dont think its an actual file...
[12:15] <Alarm> which means ?
[12:15] <AWOSDev> ogm = OGg Movie right?
[12:16] <HymnToLife> cpk1, if it is not a file, how come wr can cat it ?
[12:16] <HymnToLife> AWOSDev, OGg Media, rather
[12:16] <HymnToLife> you can put sound only in them
[12:16] <AWOSDev> HymnToLife ah.
[12:16] <AWOSDev> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-10 18:12 /proc/cpuinfo
[12:16] <AWOSDev> ^ real file!
[12:16] <cpk1> size of 0 and its also empty too AWOSDev
[12:17] <cpk1> if you file it
[12:17] <parkerw207> whats this new update were getting , its huge!
[12:17] <Ace2016> yellow it is, seems nice
[12:17] <amoun> Hi folks. I have just installed ubuntu and am not happy with the font rendering. Monocrome is very rough and I don't want smoothing. Does the KDE environment have a 'better' clean font rendering method.
[12:19] <Sanne> amoun: you can turn off the smoothing altogether, or only for small sizes, it's in system settings.
[12:20] <Sanne> amoun: under appearance/fonts
[12:20] <amoun> Thanks Sanne. I've done that but the resulting font is very scrapy. Windows with no smoothing is clean and sharp. I was hoping Kubuntu or the KDE may be better
[12:21] <Sanne> amoun: if you like to have the ms fonts like arial, verdana etc you can install a package, let me get the name for you
[12:21] <amoun> bye the way I'm using windows to irc as I can't get my modem or wifi to work on my laptop yet
[12:21] <Sanne> amoun: it's package msttcorefonts
[12:22] <Sanne> amoun: I'm using arial for my interface font, without smoothing, and it's nice and crisp.
[12:23] <Sanne> amoun: can't help you with modem or wifi, sorry, I'm on dsl that just works.
[12:23] <amoun> thanks Sanne I'll try that. Before I go can you tell me how to download the kde environment anyway. I have a Kubuntu disk but it won't load. Are there pakes on the CD I can extract and transfer?
[12:23] <cpk1> Alarm: locate didnt work on proc because it isnt a real file system
[12:23] <amoun> no I'll leave the connection problems till later
[12:23] <Alarm> oh ok. thank u, got it no
[12:23] <Sanne> amoun: you can only use packages from the alternate cd. The desktop/live cd has a different package format.
[12:24] <cpk1> Alarm: proc is basically a snapshot of your running processeses
[12:24] <Alarm> got it
[12:24] <Alarm> my mistake
[12:24] <Alarm> and what happens if i want to search a file also in there ?
[12:24] <Alarm> whereis would work ?
[12:24] <amoun> ok I'll look for the msttcorefonts and see if that's better
[12:24] <Sanne> amoun: do you need help finding the alternate cd?
[12:25] <Sanne> amoun: wait
[12:25] <parkerw207> how do i get a program to show my system uses ?
[12:26] <parkerw207> like my processors and stuff?
[12:26] <cpk1> Alarm: dunno but you will most certainly need root
[12:26] <Sanne> amoun: the msttcorefonts package is only a script that downloads the ms fonts. They can't be included because of the license. I recommend for now to just copy over your ms fonts to /home/yourusername/.fonts
[12:26] <amoun> I can't download loads of megs
[12:26] <Alarm> okie :)
[12:27] <intelikey> parkerw207 ?
[12:27] <cpk1> parkerw207: there are all sorts of tools you can use, gkrellm is a good monitor, there are some good monitors you can get if you use super karamba, and kde has a system monitor as well
[12:27] <parkerw207> thanks :)
[12:27] <AWOSDev> parkerw207: from the command line, top
[12:27] <AWOSDev> type "top" into Konsole.
[12:28] <AWOSDev> shows processor usage, memory usage, swap, everything.
[12:28] <cpk1> AWOSDev: yes, but you look cooler if you use super karamba
[12:29] <AWOSDev> cpk1: no clue, I don't know what that is.
[12:29] <andrei> hello
[12:29] <intelikey> parkerw207 did they answer your question or were you looking for something like lshw ?
[12:29] <andrei> can you please help me with something
[12:29] <andrei> ?
[12:29] <Sanne> parkerw207: ksysguard is the gui kde performance monitor, it's also very nice.
[12:30] <smoze> what was the tool to manage disk partitions?
[12:30] <AWOSDev> Sanne, ah yes, forgot about that.
[12:30] <AWOSDev> smoze qtparted
[12:30] <andrei> if I use telnet to connect to a website
[12:30] <Sanne> AWOSDev: :)
[12:30] <AWOSDev> Sanne :)
[12:30] <intelikey> was also already mentioned
[12:30] <AWOSDev> andrei yes...?
[12:30] <amoun> just got the font thing and noticed I've been downloading Kubuntu total for the last hour :)
[12:30] <andrei> how do I make telnet read the commands
[12:30] <AWOSDev> amoun hehe
[12:30] <Sanne> amoun: wow!
[12:30] <andrei> automatically?
[12:30] <andrei> i mean...
[12:31] <AWOSDev> andrei type something like "GET /file/name"
[12:31] <smoze> the same one i used on live-cd?
[12:31] <parkerw207>  thanks
[12:31] <AWOSDev> smoze qtparted
[12:31] <andrei> yes,lets say GET / HTTP/1.0
[12:31] <andrei> but i have to type it
[12:31] <AWOSDev> andrei correct.
[12:31] <amoun> OK I have the fonts. Do you mean just by copying them they will be available ???
[12:31] <intelikey> andrei  don't have to  you could use "expect"
[12:32] <andrei> but how can i not type it
[12:32] <andrei> ?
[12:32] <andrei> expect?
[12:32] <AWOSDev> amoun yeah...copy them to your fonts directory.
[12:32] <intelikey> yes
[12:32] <andrei> can you give me an example?
[12:32] <Sanne> amoun: you can put ttf fonts to /home/user/.fonts, they will be available eventually (maybe alfter logout/login). If you installe dmsttcorefonts with apt-get/adept, you don't need to do anything else.
[12:32] <intelikey> you setup an expect script to do the read/answer part then turn it over to you...
[12:33] <andrei> i tried something like this :
[12:33] <premier> I just created a new user called "beryl" and I cant access things with 'su'
[12:33] <smoze> ok, thx
[12:33] <premier> it says, "communication with su failed"
[12:33] <andrei> telnet www.something. 80 < file.txt
[12:33] <andrei> and i wrote "GET / HTTP/1.0" in file.txt
[12:34] <AWOSDev> amoun copy them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/<make a new folder name here.
[12:34] <AWOSDev> s/./>/
[12:34] <AWOSDev> !sudo | premier
[12:34] <ubotu> premier: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:34] <Sanne> amoun: if you copy the fonts manually, there's a command to update the font cache immediately to make them available right away. I just can't remember what it was.
[12:35] <AWOSDev> Sanne, amoun, you mean fc-cache?
[12:35] <Sanne> AWOSDev: I think yes
[12:35] <AWOSDev> run as sudo.
[12:35] <AWOSDev> sudo fc-cache
[12:35] <AWOSDev> Sanne :)
[12:35] <Sanne> AWOSDev: ah, yes, thanks :)
[12:35] <amoun> Ok will transfer the fonts and see what happens thanks all. Got to go offline from windows and reboot to do it all.
[12:35] <amoun> thanks again bye
[12:35] <Sanne> bye, good luck
[12:35] <poseidon> how can I insert special characters, like ~ over n, on a virtual terminal?
[12:35] <Sanne> ...too late...
[12:36] <ubuntu> hello is there a way to make a linux boot disk with USB support so I can boot to my USB hard drive?
[12:36] <intelikey> example expect script: expect "username"  ;send "name"  ;expect "password"  ;send "passwd" ;expect
[12:36] <AWOSDev> Sanne np :)
[12:36] <parkerw207> how do i get widgets for linux ?
[12:37] <AWOSDev> poseidon wow, I've been wondering the same thing.
[12:37] <AWOSDev> parkerw207...like for Kicker the taskbar?
[12:37] <poseidon> AWOSDev: let's start a pettition :b
[12:37] <intelikey> ooops forgot      "spawn telnet adderess "    then the expect part.
[12:37] <parkerw207> ermm like you get for macs ?
[12:37] <AWOSDev> poseindo :D
[12:38] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 sorry about that, I'm not familiar with Macintosh.
[12:38] <parkerw207> like waht vista has now
[12:38] <poseidon> maybe there's a way youo can change the keyboard layout?
[12:38] <parkerw207> little programs that sit on desktop
[12:38] <parkerw207> like that display the weather stuff :
[12:39] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 oh oh oh
[12:39] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 those are only available for Kicker, but...
[12:39] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 right-click Kicker, click Add Applet To Panel, and then there's your widgets
[12:40] <AWOSDev> there is a Kweather
[12:40] <parkerw207> whats kicker ?
[12:40] <parkerw207> i dont think i have it
[12:40] <AWOSDev> and various other little thingies like that
[12:40] <poseidon> parkerw207: it's the taskbar-thing
[12:40] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 kicker is your taskbar
[12:40] <AWOSDev> I think you have it :)
[12:40] <parkerw207> ooo i am dunno :S
[12:42] <premier> Im having trouble with su
[12:42] <parkerw207> how do i get my takbard back !
[12:42] <parkerw207> it just dissapeared :S
[12:42] <premier> I created a new user, and It cant do things through su or sudo. I just added it to the group sudo, but that doesnt fix it
[12:43] <Sanne> parkerw207: superkaramba may also what you are looking for, it's in universe repositories which you may have to enable first. I never used superkaramba myself, though.
[12:43] <parkerw207> i got it back lol
[12:43] <intelikey> no it's admin  not sudo  group
[12:43] <intelikey> premier
[12:43] <premier> what is superkaramba?
[12:43] <premier> thanks, intelikey
[12:43] <parkerw207> yeah ?
[12:44] <lancelot_br> hello guys... im trying to install Kubuntu 6.06 64-Bit, but it crashes on installation (reading mirror) part...? anything to do ??
[12:44] <intelikey> well by default,  root jr.  == anyone in group admin
[12:44] <Sanne> premier: you can read info here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/superkaramba
[12:45] <lancelot_br> anyone could help me?
[12:45] <intelikey> andrei did you get anywhere with "expect" yet ?
[12:46] <_6StringKng_> caould someone help me?
[12:46] <Sanne> lancelot_br: I would to, in this order: 1. check cd integrity (option in boot menu), 2. check RAM (also on boot menu), 3. download the alternate text based installer cd and try that.
[12:46] <intelikey> !help
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[12:46] <_6StringKng_> a friend of mine is having trouble with the NVIDIA Drivers
[12:46] <intelikey> !ask
[12:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:46] <_6StringKng_> for a 7600GT
[12:46] <_6StringKng_> PCI-e x16
[12:46] <intelikey> !ati | _6StringKng_
[12:46] <ubotu> _6StringKng_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <lancelot_br> sanne, i have already installed kubuntu today here.. but i need to reinstall it.. and after 1st installation.. it didnt work anymore =
[12:47] <Sanne> lancelot_br: oh... so it worked with this same cd before?
[12:47] <lancelot_br> Sanne ,yes the same one
[12:48] <AWOSDev> Bye!
[12:48] <amoun> Hi Sanne Excuse  my idiocy. I didn't pay attention well enough. Where is the font folder I can transfer to. The one I found in etc. doesn't allow write to  : )
[12:48] <lancelot_br>  i`ve already tryied manual partition, automatic partition.. tried to fdisk /mbr, remove paritions using fdisk...
[12:49] <Sanne> lancelot_br: those things drive one crazy, dont they? ;) So, what could that be? Maybe CD gone bad somehow? Don't think so, but make the test. And also the memory test, just to be sure (let it run for some hours).
[12:49] <AWOSDev> amoun /usr/share/fonts/truetype/<create folder here>
[12:49] <Sanne> amoun: you can also use the kde font installer, forgot to mention that
[12:50] <lancelot_br> yeah.. this make me go crazy here LOL ... i`m using now Kubuntu livecd... its working pretty weel
[12:50] <lancelot_br> well*
[12:50] <Sanne> amoun: there you can choose to install only for your user, or systemwide.
[12:50] <AWOSDev> amoun I usually make the folder name based on what it is...like when I copied some fonts from Windows XP I made folder /usr/share/fonts/truetype/xp-fonts
[12:50] <lancelot_br> so, i dont think there`s something wrong =/
[12:50] <lancelot_br> but it crashes..
[12:50] <AWOSDev> amoun also realise after you copy that you have to exit any applications you wish to use with the new fonts, and restart the programs.
[12:50] <amoun> thanks both bye again - same with ubuntu I hope
[12:50] <Sanne> amoun: AWOSDev's methos would install them system wide.
[12:50] <AWOSDev> bye amoun!
[12:51] <AWOSDev> Sanne, yeah :)
[12:51] <Sanne> amoun: the kde installer is in system settings
[12:51] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br specific error message?
[12:51] <patrick_> hello
[12:51] <lancelot_br> AWOSDev: just a minute... i will check it
[12:51] <AWOSDev> sorry I must leave....goodbye!
[12:51] <Sanne> amoun: if you install manually system wide, you need to do all with sudo.
[12:51] <amoun> bye
[12:51] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br altight
[12:51] <Sanne> bye AWOSDev
[12:52] <AWOSDev> s/altight/alright/
[12:52] <AWOSDev> bye Sanne!
[12:52] <Dante123> 	Hi all! I would like to reinstall Ubuntu on a partition on my HD.....however........I want to make sure that I do not mess up the other OS on there.....(Windoze) as this computer belongs to the school where I teach......how do I go about reinstalling Ubuntu....and still leave the Grub setup as is......any suggestions or tips are appreciated....thanks.
[12:52] <Dante123> I should add that Windoze is on a separate partition....but boots first on grub
[12:53] <AWOSDev> Dante123 may I ask a question?
[12:53] <AWOSDev> Dante123 how did you get the font to italicise in your question!?
[12:53] <lancelot_br> AWOSDev: can i send by PVT to you
[12:53] <lancelot_br> ?
[12:53] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br sure.
[12:53] <AWOSDev> but I must be going soon.
[12:53] <lancelot_br> AWOSDev: just take little seconds
[12:53] <lancelot_br> =)
[12:53] <Sanne> lancelot_br: I also would like to know the error message
[12:54] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br okay :)
[12:54] <Sanne> lancelot_br: you can paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:54] <Dante123> I don't know...I just copy pasted it
[12:54] <AWOSDev> Dante123 hehe okay :D
[12:54] <lancelot_br> just a minute.. i must register to send PVT msgs
[12:54] <Dante123> i posted same question in ubuntu room
[12:54] <Sanne> lancelot_br: just use the pastebin
[12:55] <Dante123> any suggestions on my question?
[12:55] <AWOSDev> Dante123 and irt your question.  just install Ubuntu again it should work.
[12:55] <AWOSDev> that's what I did when I broke it, it left GRUB alone
[12:55] <Dante123> will it alter the grub?
[12:55] <AWOSDev> at least I think it did
[12:55] <AWOSDev> not too sure...that was long time ago
[12:55] <Dante123> okay....thanks.
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[12:57] <lancelot_rw> AWOSDev: Sanne: both received error msgs (PVT) ?
[12:57] <AWOSDev> lancelot_rw yes
[12:57] <AWOSDev> that's WAYYYYYYYYYY out of my league :)
[12:57] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yes, but if you had used the pastebin, others could have a look also and maybe help. I don't know what's wrong, sorry.
[12:58] <lancelot_rw> pastebin ?
[12:58] <lancelot_rw> sorry, too may time no using linux LOL
[12:58] <AWOSDev> !paste | lancelot_rw
[12:58] <ubotu> lancelot_rw: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: as I said, paste.ubuntu-nl.org, there you can paste text and send us the url.
[12:58] <AWOSDev> bye!
[01:00] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: PasteBin > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5146/
[01:01] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ah, much better, thanks :)
[01:01] <lancelot_rw> =)
[01:01] <lancelot_rw> i need to install KUBUNTU.. LOL.. i like it ?-)
[01:02] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: all I see is that it's a python script error and concerning ubiquity. I'm looking up what it's supposed to do.
[01:03] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: thanks.. i`ll try to figure out a solution at google
[01:03] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: wait
[01:03] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: if you find something, help me too
[01:03] <lancelot_rw> =)
[01:03] <mwerner> hi. does somebody know how to solve drdsl-freezes?
[01:03] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: it seems it's for the live cd installer, so I really recommend trying the alternate cd. Look here, first entry, for ubiquity: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ubiquity&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[01:05] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i copied this cd from a friend... he has the original one (shipped to him)...
[01:05] <lancelot_rw> im going crazy with this.. because it already installed and runned ok today..
[01:05] <lancelot_rw> now this is not working =/
[01:06] <lancelot_rw> and i dont have another blank CD here
[01:06] <fernando> someone is using beryl here???
[01:06] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: still... lot of people who had problems with live, could install using alternate cd with text based installer.
[01:06] <lancelot_rw> to burn another one
[01:06] <lancelot_rw> i think this live CD has a menu to select text install, am i right ?
[01:06] <fernando> anyone is using Beryl with Nvidia graphic car????
[01:07] <slyfox> what plugin do I need to play divx video ?
[01:07] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: never heard about this option.
[01:07] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: well,.. this option can be from another linux distro i tryied to install today..
[01:07] <lancelot_rw> but, anyway... i`ll try again
[01:07] <lancelot_rw> let me start installation
[01:08] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I think so. All I heard is that live is graphical, alternate is text based.
[01:08] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ok
[01:08] <fernando> users from beryl???
[01:08] <cpk1> i think the dvd has gui and text based
[01:08] <lancelot_rw> i`ll try it... if i cant install.. monday I will buy empty CDs
[01:09] <fernando> what is you problem lancelot??
[01:09] <Sanne> fernando: lancelot_rw can't install from live cd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5146/
[01:10] <fernando> but are you sure that is possible to do that??
[01:10] <fernando> normally you need an alternate CD
[01:10] <lancelot_rw> fernando: yes, it is possible
[01:10] <lancelot_rw> fernando: i've already installed this today...
[01:11] <fernando> lancelot: you did it.. and what is the problem??
[01:11] <Sanne> fernando: of yourse you can install from the live cd... *mostly* it works, but not always...
[01:11] <lancelot_rw> fernando:  but needed to re-install... after 1st install.. didnt installed anymore
[01:12] <fernando> Sanne: yes, you "can", but you the mosly time doesnt work really
[01:12] <Sanne> fernando: heh... I never tried it myself, I also use the alternate cd.
[01:13] <Sanne> fernando: s/also/always
[01:13] <frood> I'm trying to compile some drivers for a Lexmark multifunction printer/scanner and when I run the ./configure script i get an error saying "No compiler found". I checked Adept and I have GCC installed. What gives? Is there a system variable for the compiler location I need to change or something?
[01:14] <fernando> frood: normally you need to have install "g++" package
[01:14] <Sanne> frood: also install build-essential
[01:15] <lancelot_rw> it is installing... lets try it.. :-)
[01:15] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: good luck :)
[01:15] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: thanks
[01:15] <frood> okey.
[01:15] <lancelot_rw> i have ubuntu 32-bit CDs... (shipped to me) .. is there a way to change it later to 64-bit (stupid question, but anyways...)
[01:16] <MarcoPau> in kaffein I only get Netscape plugin viewer as an entry for Settings -> Player engine
[01:16] <MarcoPau> even thou mplayer, kmplayer, xine and stuff are installed. what am I supposed to do in order to pick either mplayer or xine as engines?
[01:16] <frood> Does it matter which version of G++ I install? I've got 3.4 - 4.0
[01:16] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: no, don't think you can convert 32bit to 64bit install - it would be like a complete reinstall anyway.
[01:17] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: ok. (i hate when I dont have empty CDs at home)
[01:17] <fernando> frood: It matter!!, install the package "g++" even if you have some highest version
[01:17] <frood> okey
[01:17] <Sanne> frood: install build-essential first, you should get the default g++ with that package
[01:17] <lancelot_rw> if I have one... i could download kubuntu and burn it again..
[01:17] <lancelot_rw> fernando: where're you from ?
[01:18] <fernando> lancelot: I have the 64 bit version, but I have many problem with plugin for firefox
[01:18] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: if you burn a new cd, burn it slowly (-> less errors)
[01:18] <fernando> lancelot: I live in germany, but I come from chile
[01:19] <lancelot_rw> fernando: ok, i though you were brazilian (Fernando, ordinary name in brazil)
[01:19] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: ok, i'll pray now to work!
[01:19] <lancelot_rw> my kubuntu is not Plug and Play ... it is Plug and PRAY!
[01:19] <frood> Okey. Installing Build Essentials.
[01:20] <lancelot_rw> *bad joke* LOL
[01:20] <fernando> jajaja
[01:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I'm holding my breath ;)
[01:20] <fernando> lancelot: that was good jaja
[01:20] <lancelot_rw> =)
[01:20] <fernando> anyone is using here Beryl???
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> "Plug and Pray" ... thats nice isnt it? LOL
[01:21] <Sanne> frood: after that, try configure again, you should have at least your compiler now.
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> well.. i think now its installing properly
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> ...configuring hardware...
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> ..detecting devices..
[01:22] <fernando> lancelot: with graphic video car do you have??
[01:22] <lancelot_rw> i think the part of "Scanning mirros" have already finished... (the part that was erros)
[01:22] <fernando> lancelot: wich..
[01:22] <lancelot_rw> fernando: NVidia GForce MX-440 64MB
[01:23] <lancelot_rw> more than 3 minutes... configuring hardware 96% .. ARGH!!
[01:24] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: try the alternate
[01:24] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i dont have one empty CD
[01:25] <lancelot_rw> [23:17]  *** Mythbusters  <<<< I would need them!!
[01:25] <lancelot_rw> LOL
[01:25] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I know. Try it another day. It's healthier ;)
[01:25] <fernando> lancelot: I agree with Sanne
[01:25] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i'll try it later... but today i need to find something to do... LOL
[01:26] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: hmmm, there's also net install, is there not? I dunno how it works, though, if you still need a cd.
[01:26] <andrei> intelikey , thank you very much for helping me
[01:26] <slyfox> what command or plugin do I need to isntall to play video ?
[01:26] <vellu> help me out, i cant get taskbar to appear
[01:26] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i like so much net installers... if i could find a way to boot via live cd and install using net install..
[01:27] <fernando> slyfox: look this -> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
[01:27] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: let's look in the wiki
[01:29] <Sanne> slyfox: vlc player should play lots of formats, you can install it via apt/adept/what you prefer.
[01:30] <MarcoPau> in kaffeine the subtitles in an avi movie won't be italics when there are <i> and </i> flags... I tried changing fonts but that didn't really help
[01:30] <Sanne> slyfox: install package wxvlc from universe, it's the gui frontend and also installs vlc engine.
[01:32] <Nontitle> what does vlc stand for again?
[01:32] <crazy_penguin> Good night all!
[01:32] <Nontitle> bye
[01:34] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: seems pretty complicated, but maybe it helps you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[01:37] <lancelot_rw> sorry ... my system crashed
[01:37] <lancelot_rw> lets try install it again..
[01:37] <lancelot_rw> lol
[01:38] <Whopper> :P
[01:38] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: seems pretty complicated, but maybe it helps you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[01:39] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i'll check it
[01:41] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i think this is just for local network installation... not for internet installation
[01:42] <Sanne> oh
[01:46] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i'll let it installing here.. i think using live CD and installing at the same time is crashing it...
[01:46] <lancelot_rw> brb
[01:48] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ok
[01:55] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: =)
[01:55] <lancelot_rw> Now its installed on my harddisk!
[01:56] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: !! coolo !!
[01:56] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: now. its the hardest part.. conf. all the system
[01:57] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: first thing: which repository should I add to apt-get source.list to get software.. like, xmms, opera, gaim....
[01:57] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yup, that can take awhile. But it's also nice, like make the system your own, sorta :)
[01:58] <coreymon77> lancelot_rw: i can give you my sources.list
[01:58] <coreymon77> its pretty complete
[01:58] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I just activate all... there's a sources.list generator somewhere, sec
[01:58] <lancelot_rw> coreymon77: great.. send it by email or PVT
[01:59] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:59] <coreymon77> pastebin
[01:59] <[Marvin] > hm, this is odd. I just started my computer for the first time in a couple of days - and for some reason the entire right half of the KDE panel is blank and everything's squeezed together in the left side.
[01:59] <coreymon77> ill kist put in on pastebin
[01:59] <lancelot_rw> coreymon77: ok.
[01:59] <lancelot_rw> Kubuntu 6.06 is the Dapper one, right?
[02:00] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yes, it's Dapper
[02:00] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: for opera, you need to enable some commercial repository. Dunno if it's also generated by easysource.
[02:01] <coreymon77> lancelot_rw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5154/
[02:01] <coreymon77> wait a sec
[02:01] <coreymon77> you want to use dapper?
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> yes
[02:01] <coreymon77> oh
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> i use dapper 64-bit
[02:01] <coreymon77> cause this is for edgy
[02:01] <coreymon77> why not use dapper
[02:01] <coreymon77> i mean
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> can i just change the name of lines from dapper to edgy ?
[02:01] <coreymon77> why not use edgy
[02:01] <coreymon77> you could do that
[02:01] <coreymon77> but why not upgrade?
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> coreymon77: i get this CD with a friend.. just to test... and liked it
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> :-P
[02:02] <coreymon77> you like dapper
[02:02] <coreymon77> well edgy is 10000000000000x better
[02:02] <coreymon77> atleast
[02:02] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: here's mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5129/
[02:02] <coreymon77> thats my opinion
[02:02] <coreymon77> once again
[02:02] <coreymon77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5154/
[02:02] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : Sounds like you have something odd running in the panel.
[02:02] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: this is sources.list from dapper ?
[02:02] <coreymon77> i love edgy
[02:02] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: hmm, dunno...
[02:03] <coreymon77> but if you wanna stay with dapper
[02:03] <coreymon77> okay
[02:03] <jhutchins> coreymon77: dapper lts is a bit more stable, particulary for 64.
[02:03] <coreymon77> oh
[02:03] <coreymon77> i havent had any problems
[02:03] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yes, mine, but customized and cleaned. You would need to take out the cd line, as you have the live cd and can't use this as repository.
[02:03] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : See if you can right click the black part, or find a handle for it.
[02:03] <coreymon77> but i have x86
[02:03] <lancelot_rw> i use Dapper 64-Bit .. Atlhon 3000+
[02:03] <[Marvin] > I've tried closing all the applets and then starting them again. Now the clock, quicklaunch etc. are all over the place...still squeezed, though.
[02:03] <coreymon77> lancelot_rw: you can use mine and then just change all the edgys to dappers
[02:04] <jhutchins> coreymon77: We've seen some trouble reported with edgy, particulary for upgrades but clean installs too.
[02:04] <lancelot_rw> ok Sanne .. i'll update my sources.list
[02:04] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: oh, and you should also change the //de to your country code
[02:04] <jhutchins> (Although, come to think of that, it was a kde upgrade.)
[02:04] <[Marvin] > Hm, how do I move the clock, quicklaunch and the pager? pressing Alt doesn't do anything...
[02:04] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: make a backup first and don't shoot me if it fails ;)
[02:04] <coreymon77> mine are all coms
[02:05] <coreymon77> mine is the default sources,list
[02:05] <coreymon77> plus the repos for the new kde
[02:05] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : If you hover over the separator, you'll see a little triangular spot at the top.  That's the "Handle", click it and you get a menu.
[02:05] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: back up ? welll sorry.. i didnt do that... LOL
[02:05] <lancelot_rw> but is ok.. :>
[02:05] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: also look at coreymon77 's and compare.
[02:05] <coreymon77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5154/
[02:06] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I would have the original one still, if you should need that (*I* did back up first njah njah)
[02:06] <coreymon77> but remember
[02:06] <coreymon77> if you want to use mine and stick with dapper
[02:06] <coreymon77> you have to change everywhere is says edgy to dapper
[02:06] <lancelot_rw> ppl... is there a way to install packages (.deb) including all the dependencies automatically...
[02:07] <coreymon77> thats what apt does
[02:07] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: I see no seperator anywhere...
[02:07] <lancelot_rw> ok coreymon77
[02:07] <coreymon77> btw Sanne, your sources.list file backsup automatically
[02:07] <lancelot_rw> well.. didnt find opera browser using atp-get
[02:07] <coreymon77> let me check
[02:07] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: oh, sorry....I disabled them.
[02:07] <Sanne> coreymon77: well, depends if you configured your editor to do that ;)
[02:07] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : Should highlight if you put your mouse over the applet, ie hover over the clock.
[02:07] <jhutchins> Heh.
[02:07] <jhutchins> Well then.
[02:08] <fernando> lancelot: right click on the debian package and install
[02:08] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: enabling them did the trick, yaddi yaddi, thanks for the help :o)
[02:08] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: opera is in a commercial repository
[02:08] <Jonty>  /j #sqlobject'
[02:08] <Jonty>  /j #sqlobject
[02:08] <fernando> any one is using beryl???
[02:08] <Jonty> arlg, sorry
[02:09] <lancelot_rw> anyone know a good 64-bit browser ??
[02:09] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: details here: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/
[02:09] <fernando> lancelot: firefox
[02:09] <CrakeHunter> hello, how do i exit from xserver - and enter text mode?
[02:09] <lancelot_rw> fernando: firefox is 32bit
[02:09] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: firefox from the repositories is 64bit
[02:09] <lancelot_rw> CrakeHunter: Crtl+alt+F2 .. F3 ...
[02:10] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: you won't be able to use some plugins with that one, though.
[02:10] <fernando> lancelot: did you installed? you will se that is a 64bit version
[02:11] <lancelot_rw> fernando: i assume that firefox is 32 bit 'cause on the web site there's no 64 version... but i'll install it over apt-get
[02:11] <lancelot_rw> =)
[02:11] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: opera is only available as 32 bit, so no install throught apt-get for you.
[02:11] <lancelot_rw> fernando: Sanne told me that this repository has a 64 bit version
[02:11] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: the ubuntu compiled firefox is 64 bit for you. Mozilla.org only has 32bit versions for download.
[02:11] <fernando> lancelot: the web site has nothing to do with a broswer..
[02:12] <fernando> lancelot: install firefox.. and you wil see that is 64 bit
[02:12] <fernando> lancelot: but I will not recomend if you visit website such as youtube
[02:12] <fernando> lancelot: you will not able to see videos
[02:13] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: try to look for software first in the ubuntu repositories and on packages.ubuntu.com if it's available.
[02:13] <coreymon77> here
[02:13] <coreymon77> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[02:13] <coreymon77> thats the repo
[02:14] <sparr> i have a sound blaster, emu10k1 chip, that isnt working in ubuntu.  help?
[02:14] <lancelot_rw> brb guys... i'll change to XChat
[02:14] <lancelot_rw> =)
[02:14] <Sanne> coreymon77: no 64 bit version there
[02:14] <coreymon77> gah
[02:14] <dct391> does anyone know where all the links went
[02:14] <coreymon77> you people make it so complicated
[02:15] <Sanne> ?
[02:15] <dct391> the club autos
[02:15] <Sanne> lanclot_rw asked for a 64 bit browser
[02:15] <coreymon77> everything is no 64 bit version
[02:16] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: if you want to use all those fancy plugins (java, flash...) you would need to install the 32 bit firefox, as those plugins have no 64 bit version.
[02:16] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, to install 32 bit version i should download it from website right?
[02:17] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: wait. there's a howto in the wiki, I'll find it for you
[02:17] <lancelot_rw> my repositories (list u sent me) are only for 64-bit software, right?
[02:17] <coreymon77> umm
[02:17] <coreymon77> i dont think there is an opera 64 bit verseion
[02:18] <fernando> lancelot: the repositories that come with kubuntu 64, are for software 64 bits
[02:18] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: for a 64 bit installation, you will get the 64 bit software automatically. There are some 32 bit compatibility packages if you want to run 32 bit programs.
[02:18] <fernando> lancelot: the are precompile software for the kubuntu group
[02:18] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:19] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, the repositories you sent me are 64 or 32 bit ones?
[02:19] <coreymon77> guys
[02:20] <coreymon77> look at the convo me and that dct391 guy just had
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:16]  <dct391> hey cory do you know where all the autos went from the site
[02:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I already answered!
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:16]  <coreymon77> the what?
[02:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: for a 64 bit installation, you will get the 64 bit software automatically. There are some 32 bit compatibility packages if you want to run 32 bit programs.
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:16]  <dct391> the auto links to help club pogo members get badges
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:17]  <coreymon77> do you know which channel this is
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:17]  <dct391> no
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:17]  <dct391> why?
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:18]  <coreymon77> this is the kubuntu linux channel that you are on
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:18]  <coreymon77> not the club pogo channel
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:19]  <dct391> oh sorry
[02:20] <coreymon77> auto links that help club pogo members get bages?
[02:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: youmight also find help and info here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[02:21] <coreymon77> what kind of bs is that
[02:24] <sparr> how can i make ubuntu re-do whatever magic it does at install time to configure my sound card?
[02:25] <Kr4t05> http://pastebin.ca/349785  <- Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong, here?
[02:28] <mackinac> are there any SFTP or SSH server apps with a GUI and easy to set up ?
[02:29] <Sanne> Kr4t05: looks more like a bug in the package to me
[02:29] <mackinac> (i miss filezilla server)
[02:34] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, i'm reading Firefox + flash + java how-to.. and there's a command: gksudo
[02:34] <lancelot_rw> but this doesnt works..
[02:34] <lancelot_rw> should I use only "sudo" instead of "gksudo"
[02:34] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: oh sorry, should have mentioned it. It's for gnome, in kde use kdesu.
[02:35] <zach> How do I write to a USB stick
[02:35] <lancelot_rw> ok, thanks
[02:35] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: don't use sudo for graphical apps
[02:36] <zach> How do I write to a USB stick
[02:36] <lancelot_rw> "kdesu" didnt work
[02:36] <lancelot_rw> but sudo works pretty well :>
[02:36] <zach> How do I write to a USB stick
[02:37] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: sudo shouldn't be used for graphical apps. What's the error when you try kdesu?
[02:38] <lancelot_rw> well.. my system is a little bit crazy... now it worked... LOL
[02:38] <zach> !mayonnaise
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mayonnaise - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <zach> Help me
[02:39] <Kr4t05> zach: Most USB flash drives work without any extra software.
[02:39] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ah, I had this also. Sometimes it didn't work. It may have to do with some default entries in xorg.conf for devices that are not present, for me it was those wacom thingies.
[02:39] <Kr4t05> Just insert into a USB port and it should mount automatically.
[02:39] <lancelot_rw> yeah.. i dont know what happend here.. but now its ok
[02:39] <lancelot_rw> :>
[02:40] <zach> Kr4t05: It will read but not write
[02:40] <Sanne> mayonnaise? Lol!
[02:40] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: just keep it in mind for later ;)
[02:40] <Kr4t05> zach: Then it's probably formatted with NTFS. Copy all the files over and reformat it as FAT32.
[02:40] <zach> How do you do that
[02:40] <CrakeHunter> hello, i am trying to install nvidia drivers: i am missing the "libc header files" the installer says. what should i do?
[02:41] <sparr> how does the ubuntu installer configure sound cards?
[02:41] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, i'll do it :-)
[02:41] <Sanne> :)
[02:41] <zach> Kr4t05: how do you do that
[02:41] <Kr4t05> -.-
[02:41] <Kr4t05> zach: Do you have all the files copied from the flash drive?
[02:42] <zach> Kr4t05: yes
[02:42] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: well, unfortunately I gotta go. I wish you much success and fun with Kubuntu and your configuring. :)
[02:42] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, many thanks... see ya later.. ;-)
[02:42] <Sanne> you're welcome, lancelot_rw. Bye all.
[02:43] <lancelot_rw> bye
[02:43] <zach> Kr4t05: huh?
[02:44] <Kr4t05> zach: If so, open a terminal window and type "ls /dev/sda1"
[02:45] <Kr4t05> Let me know what it says.
[02:45] <zach> Kr4t05: no such file or directory
[02:45] <sparr> How can I find out what modules and module parameters a livecd is using the make my sound work?  So that I can duplicate those options on my main OS.
[02:45] <Kr4t05> zach: The flash drive is connected?
[02:46] <Kr4t05> zach: Try it again, only change it to "/dev/sdb1"
[02:46] <intelikey> sparr lsmod
[02:46] <sparr> intelikey: and parameters?
[02:46] <Kr4t05> Better yet...
[02:46] <intelikey> sparr
[02:47] <Kr4t05> zach: Wait... I just thought of a better way.
[02:47] <intelikey> shouldn't need any
[02:47] <sparr> intelikey: thanks.  got an answer without "should" in it?
[02:47] <zach> h
[02:47] <Kr4t05> zach: "mount -l"
[02:47] <MotorCityMadMan> is kde 3.5.6 compatible with dapper ?
[02:47] <intelikey> sparr should i have ?
[02:47] <Kr4t05> zach: Sorry... "mount -l | grep usbdisk"
[02:47] <zach> Kr4t05: mount -"?"?
[02:47] <Kr4t05> Tell me what that prints.
[02:48] <Kr4t05> l as in Larry
[02:48] <sparr> intelikey: fuck you
[02:48] <kristjan_> if I do kernel update  - then can I finish my work before rebooting, or I have reboot immediately?
[02:48] <intelikey> sparr yes you are welcome
[02:48] <zach> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [] 
[02:48] <zach> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:48] <zach> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:48] <Kr4t05> ...
[02:49] <zach> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[02:49] <Kr4t05> zach: Wait...
[02:49] <Kr4t05> Stop.
[02:49] <zach> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[02:49] <zach> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[02:49] <zach> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[02:49] <Kr4t05> Aww... nuts...
[02:49] <zach> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[02:49] <zach> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[02:49] <zach> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[02:49] <zach> nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw)
[02:49] <zach> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[02:49] <zach> /dev/hdd on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,user=zach) [VBM600ENU1] 
[02:49] <kristjan_> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:49] <Kr4t05> kristjan_: That was my bad.
[02:49] <zach> Kr4t05: what
[02:49] <Kr4t05> clear
[02:49] <zach> Kr4t05 clear what
[02:50] <Kr4t05> [20:47]  <Kr4t05> zach: Sorry... "mount -l | grep usbdisk"
[02:50] <Kr4t05> Type that command.
[02:51] <zach> Kr4t05: I did
[02:51] <Kr4t05> zach: Then, why did it print all of that other stuff.
[02:52] <toko123> can I upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10?
[02:52] <zach> Kr4t05: that was mount -l
[02:52] <Kr4t05> zach: It should have printed only one line... Did you use a pipe (|)? It's \+Shift.
[02:52] <zach> yes
[02:52] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[02:52] <intelikey> toko123 you can.   but it's not supported.
[02:52] <Kr4t05> Well, even with that, it looks like the flash drive isn't being mounted.
[02:53] <toko123> is 5.10 supported?
[02:53] <Kr4t05> zach: Try reconnecting the flash drive and do the command again. Only make sure it's "mount -l | grep usbdisk"
[02:53] <intelikey> toko123 if you are intent on trying it may i sujest you uninstall everything possable first.  makes do-able
[02:53] <Kr4t05> zach: I can't help you much longer, though.
[02:53] <intelikey> toko123 yeah for another month or two
[02:53] <toko123> thanks
[02:54] <ernie> Kr4t05 - you can also do a quick check with lsusb to see what USB thingys are dangling off the box
[02:54] <Kr4t05> ernie: Heh, forgot about that handy command. Thanks. :P
[02:54] <intelikey> toko123 upgrading from 5.10 to 6.6 is supported  and pretty safe
[02:55] <Kr4t05> zach: Hate to bail out on you, but I have to go.
[02:55] <toko123> what command to use or procedure
[02:55] <ernie> Kr4t05 - Glad I know something I can help with :)
[02:55] <zach> OK
[02:55] <Kr4t05> zach: I sure someone else in here might be able to help you figure this out.
[02:56] <fernando> anyone here is using BERYL ???
[02:56] <intelikey> toko123 you edit /etc/apt/sources.list   change all "breezy" to "dapper"  save it,  issue; 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:58] <toko123> intelikey, thanks, i can handle that
[02:58] <intelikey> toko123 and lay your rosery on the keyboard and hang your st. christofer's meddel on the monitor and wait to see if it takes....
[02:58] <MotorCityMadMan> is it safe to upgrade from kde 3.5.2 to 3.5.6 in dapper ?
[02:58] <intelikey> :)
[02:59] <toko123> well I have another maching went from ubuntu 6.06{didn't compile a ton of stuff} to 6.6 works fine
[03:00] <ubuntu_> hi when you download a program, wher does it go, cause it's not in the kubuntu menu ??
[03:00] <intelikey> toko123 i only added the last because it's not fool proff, and there is no guerantee that it will finish without errors  but it generally goes pretty somthly.
[03:01] <intelikey> smoothly   even
[03:01] <toko123> intelikey, thanks again
[03:01] <intelikey> np
[03:02] <intelikey> ubuntu_  "when you download a program"  please clearify that for us ?
[03:03] <_6StringKng_> need help installing ati drivers, forgot the url of the site I was looking on the last time
[03:03] <intelikey> !ati
[03:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:04] <ubuntu_> i've downloaded from the adept manager, and it say's that it's installed but i dont know where it is
[03:05] <intelikey> ubuntu_ ok.  what was it you installed?  cli apps dont show up in any menu normally.
[03:05] <ubuntu_> it 's a clock
[03:05] <intelikey> xclock ?
[03:05] <intelikey> clock ?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> yah
[03:06] <intelikey> which ?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> xclock
[03:06] <intelikey> you can start it by pressing   alt+f2  type in  xclock
[03:07] <intelikey> you can add it to the pannel with right click
[03:07] <intelikey> right click the pannel
[03:09] <intelikey> ubuntu_ ffr anything you install that doesn't show up in the kmenu  (or the debian menu if you have "menu" installed)   can usually be executed via the command line  in  alt+f2   or  konsole
[03:11] <Phlosten> allo all
[03:11] <intelikey> also of note,  the kmenu does not update instantly  things that are installed may not show up in the menu right away.     " kbuildsycoca "   will rebuild (update) the kmenu
[03:11] <ksnipa> I got a sis card installed (yes its shit), and anytime i run glxinfo my comp restarts any ideas on how I can fix that? and yes I do realize that my card wont be to run direct draw but the whole it resetting on me when i type glxinfo just bothers me
[03:13] <intelikey> !glx
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <ubuntu_> intelikey: thanks, but it s oclock. When i type xclock theres a picture of a clock, and when i right click i dont have xclock it is running tight now in my upper left screen
[03:14] <ubuntu_> i'm almost there
[03:14] <intelikey> :)
[03:14] <intelikey> xclock != oclock    heh
[03:17] <intelikey> when i press  ctrl+alt+esc  i don't get the skull & crossbones
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Well there is a new clock in my bar on the left but i dont know if it's the one, and it's not in the menu
[03:19] <intelikey> it's probably the one
[03:19] <ubuntu_> yeah that's what i think
[03:19] <intelikey> cat /etc/sudoers
[03:19] <intelikey> ALL     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD :ALL
[03:20] <intelikey> my sudo don't work.
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> !metabar
[03:20] <intelikey> oh wait yes it does
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metabar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <intelikey> it works for root
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> hmm cant seem ot find tghe metabar in konqueror
[03:21] <intelikey> metabar ?
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> doesnt seem to be a packafe for it either
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> package*
[03:21] <intelikey> whz dat ?
[03:22] <renewip> hi all
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=53028
[03:22] <renewip> iam using Kubuntu 6.10
[03:22] <intelikey> metabar - Context sensitive sidebar plugin for Konqueror
[03:22] <intelikey> !info metabar
[03:22] <ubotu> Package metabar does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[03:22] <intelikey> !info metabar dapper
[03:22] <ubotu> metabar: Context sensitive sidebar plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 372 kB
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> what a load of ***
[03:22] <intelikey> not in edgy
[03:23] <renewip> and I can't set envinronment vars after kde start
[03:23] <renewip> :-(
[03:23] <intelikey> renewip what do you need to set ?
[03:24] <renewip> I mean how to set automatically an env var
[03:24] <renewip> I want to set LD_PRELOAD var
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: cant seem to find the sidebar either
[03:24] <intelikey> put in /etc/evnironment    or /etc/profile    depending on var and usage/need
[03:25] <justin1278> hello
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> hmm no shortcuts for sidebar
[03:25] <justin1278> I was wondering if somebody could help me with KBFX
[03:25] <intelikey> Linux_Galore isn't it  view > something > sidebar  ?
[03:26] <justin1278> Can somebody help me with KBFX?
[03:26] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: not in any of the menu's
[03:27] <user_> hey does anyone know if ubuntu distro autodetects multiple drives?
[03:27] <user_> i.e. 3 sata drievs
[03:28] <intelikey> hmmm can't look it up for you Linux_Galore i don't even have kde installed
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: aaah, press F9
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: good old google
[03:28] <intelikey> user_ if it doesn't i'll be very surprised
[03:28] <justin1278> Can somebody help me with kbfx?
[03:29] <user_> really?  cause i love kde, but cant get the drives to get up and running, so if ubuntu will fix this i think i may have to switch
[03:29] <user_> :(
[03:29] <intelikey> user_ switch from what ?
[03:29] <user_> kubuntu to ubuntu
[03:30] <intelikey> user_ sorry chap.  that wont help a thing.
[03:30] <intelikey> kubuntu is ubuntu
[03:31] <user_> yahhhhhhhh i thought it was relatively the same, but more development, i.e, install drives, and drives work with fulll read write access and no permissions garbage
[03:31] <intelikey> *buntu is all one distro  just different default gui's
[03:31] <justin1278> Is there somebody who can please assist my with kbfx?
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: add freespire 2.0 to the list
[03:32] <renewip> sorry, but my /etc/environment has LD_PRELOAD="/lib/mylib.a"
[03:32] <intelikey> user_ what exactly is the problem   if it's not too depressing to tell it...
[03:32] <user_> like i was trying to deal with this yesterday.... basically it got to the point of being mounted, and all that, but the god damn permissions wouldnt allow me to creat folders or copy onto the drives
[03:33] <renewip> anh my /etc/profile has export LD_PRELOAD="/lib/mylib.a"
[03:33] <renewip> but when I start KDE
[03:33] <renewip> run (Alt F2) echo $LD_PRELOAD > /t.txt
[03:33] <renewip> and...
[03:33] <renewip> bum ... my /t.txt is empty
[03:34] <intelikey> renewip you want that module loaded in xorg ?    add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in the modules section
[03:34] <renewip> I can't know why
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> user_: if the drive is ntfs its not a permissions problem
[03:35] <user_> but i thought ntfs doesnt work with kubuntu
[03:35] <user_> only fat 32 does
[03:35] <user_> that has changed?
[03:36] <user_> i thought it was propritary format????
 run (Alt F2) echo $LD_PRELOAD > /t.txt  <<<  that's a good test.  but konsole should have the var set in it...
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> user_: you can red ntfs but not write
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> read*
[03:36] <intelikey> !ntfs
[03:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:36] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[03:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:36] <intelikey> !fuse
[03:36] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> well you cant write "safely"
[03:37] <intelikey> user_ anyway i suspect your drive was not ntfs ?
[03:37] <user_> naw, they are brand new, and i want them in ext3 format thats the thing
[03:38] <user_> i only have a windows partition for games
[03:38] <user_> other then that, i dont need ntfs
[03:38] <user_> my entire system is to be ext3, except the windows partition and fat32 swap area
[03:38] <intelikey> user_ and you partitioned and made file systems on these disks ?
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> user_: open konqueror as root  ie sudo konqueror   goto the sub directory were the disk/media is mounted and right click on the device icon/directory icon  and then properties  and just change the permissions
[03:39] <intelikey> *** sudo konqueror ***  not recomended
[03:39] <intelikey> kdesu konqueror
[03:39] <intelikey> !kdesu
[03:39] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:39] <user_> yah man, did allllllllllllll that, like the thing is they work, it was fine, i even ran those test code things outta terminal with the help of some of the guys here, and they wrote to the drives, but accessing them thru konquerer doesnt work
[03:39] <justin1278> Hello, can somebody please assist me with KBFX?
[03:40] <Linux_Galore> user_: you need to set it so read write is for everyone
[03:41] <intelikey> user_ let me see if i have this streight,  you say the drive/s work, mount ok, can read/write from konsole, but can't access from konqueror ?
[03:41] <user_> yes exactly, but i have no idea how to do that, and no one knew how when they were helping me out
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: you manage it from within kcontrol
[03:41] <user_> :(
[03:41] <user_> yup thats the case
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> user_: trun konqueror under root,  root has no permissions restrictions
[03:41] <user_> cannot create files, nor drag and drop files onto the drives via konqueror
[03:41] <intelikey> user_ chmod 777 /mountpoint/
[03:42] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: How do
[03:42] <user_> how do you turn konqueror to root!?
[03:42] <user_> that would be excellent
[03:42] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: How do I use that?
[03:42] <intelikey> user_ wait
[03:42] <intelikey> user_ wait
[03:42] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Sorry, I'm a noob at linux.
[03:42] <intelikey> user_ is the drive mounted ?
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> justin1278:  press alt F2  type kcontrol,  it in the look and feel section
[03:43] <user_> yah, they are mounted and fine, that was the purpose of that test code to see if they were mounted.  i ran the code as root and it worked just fine.  but via konqueror i cant
[03:43] <intelikey> user_ where ?
[03:43] <user_> i tried that chmod thing as well, didnt work before either
[03:43] <user_> and they are all mounted to media
[03:43] <intelikey> user_ i'm trying to help you here.
[03:43] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, now what>?
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: look in the look and feel section there is a kbfx manager
[03:44] <intelikey> user_ /media  or /media/something ?
[03:44] <user_> 2 x 500GB drives, and 1X 360
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: if it not there you havent installed it
[03:44] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, it is there.
[03:44] <user_>  /media/something is what they are under
[03:44] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have clicked on it and i'm in it now
[03:45] <intelikey> user_  sudo chmod 777 /media/*
[03:45] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: goto  kde-look.org  and get your themes
[03:45] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have downloaded the theme, it was in a .zip file
[03:45] <justin1278> Linux_Galore:
[03:45] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: then unpack it
[03:45] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I extracted it
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: no go into the kbfx manager and select the icon file you want from the theme folder
[03:46] <intelikey> now in normal konqueror you should be able to navigate to    /media/
[03:46] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok
[03:46] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: done
[03:46] <intelikey> click the folder the fs is mounted on and have full access
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> user_: or just type media:/
[03:47] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have clicked apply, but nothing happened.
[03:47] <intelikey> uesr_ is gone
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: it wont
[03:47] <intelikey> and it's a good thing
[03:47] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I see the preview, but its not my start menu icon...
[03:47] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok then what now?
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have to reload it
[03:47] <intelikey> cause media:/ is not the same as /media/
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: takes a few second to load
[03:48] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, I clicked reload and nothing happened.
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: wait for it
[03:48] <intelikey> that's a phisical ext3 you should NOT be accessing through media:/
[03:48] <justin1278> ok
[03:48] <intelikey> in fact the mountpoint should not even be in /media/ for that matter
[03:48] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Still nothing...
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: shrug,  did you click on apply
[03:49] <justin1278> yes
[03:50] <user_> intelikey: hey sry, just got a call, its a friends bday... this is going to have to wait ANOTHER night.... frick
[03:50] <user_> lol
[03:50] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have to understand I dont use kbfx anymore i use kickoff
[03:50] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: is kickoff better?
[03:50] <user_> i will try that code out tomorow though man, and most likely be back on here to let yu knoe if your around
[03:50] <intelikey> user_ np
[03:50] <intelikey> it's not code       it's a command.
[03:50] <user_> intelikey: thanks again, ttys
[03:51] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: for me it is, i found kbfx a bit flakky, have to be carefull though the .deb package over writes your normal menu setup
[03:52] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok, have any ideas what i can do to use KBFX?
[03:52] <sudoman> hi all
[03:52] <antibody> hey...I have /lib/modules/version/volatile
[03:52] <intelikey> sudo
[03:53] <antibody> I don't want nvidia.ko from volatile
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: I found sometime you have to reload it twice,  make sure the icons are in the path next to each of the three
[03:53] <antibody> how can I keep it from loading from boot?
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: also try clicking on the menu
[03:53] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Still nothing..
[03:53] <intelikey> you could remove it.   it being linux-restricted-modules
[03:54] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Is it possible for you to connect remotely to assist me?
[03:54] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: you may have to log out and back in
[03:54] <sudoman> anybody can help me??  I want to configure my network intefaces but i dont know the name of the configuration File
[03:54] <maximo> hola alguien habla espaol?
[03:54] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, I will try that
[03:54] <sudoman> maximo: yo pero estoy pidiendo ayuda XD
[03:54] <maximo> a ok yo tambien
[03:54] <antibody> sudoman: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:55] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have you added the kbfx applet to kicker ?
[03:55] <sudoman> antibody: thanks :)
[03:55] <intelikey> sudoman /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[03:55] <intelikey> oh i'm late
[03:55] <sudoman> i guess :)
[03:55] <sudoman> THNX
[03:55] <sudoman> :)
[03:55] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have you added the kbfx applet to kicker ?
[03:56] <justin1278> no
[03:56] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: how do I do that?
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: aah kmenu applet isnt the kbfx applet there totally different programs
[03:56] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok, how do i do this?
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: thats why it didnt change you still have the kmenu applet
[03:57] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok, how do i fix this?
[03:57] <intelikey> antibody i can think of three ways.  1 remove the module  2 blacklist the module   3 remove any referance to it in the config that is loading it...   if my guess is correct it's xorg.conf  but i could be wrong.
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: right click on the kicker taskbar  configure-> add applet
[03:58] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: should open a window,  then select kbfx
[03:58] <intelikey> antibody if it's xorg.conf you probably want to change nvidia to nv
[03:58] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: yes it worked! but now i have 2 start menus
[03:59] <sudoman> ok this the configuration file but no work
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: same process but now  "remove applet"
[03:59] <sudoman> I have a ethernet card
[03:59] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: yes i figured that out
[03:59] <intelikey> ifconfig
[03:59] <intelikey> iwconfig  for wifi
[03:59] <sudoman> But this detect it  how eth1
[03:59] <intelikey> !wifi
[03:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:00] <intelikey> ifconfig eth1 up
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: now just move the kbfx applet to the left
[04:00] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: yes
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: thats it all done
[04:00] <Stapol> Can someone tell me the best live cd
[04:01] <Stapol> For any distro
[04:01] <intelikey> knoppix
[04:01] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: well im having an issue now...
[04:01] <Stapol> My mac is limited on ram
[04:01] <sudoman> $ sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[04:01] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: my system menu is not right next to it now
[04:01] <sudoman> $sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[04:01] <sudoman> Don''t work
[04:01] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: its farther the the left
[04:01] <sudoman> :(
[04:02] <intelikey> eth0 eth1 ?
[04:02] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: remove what you dont want and move what you have to were you want it
[04:02] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: its not letting me move it
[04:02] <Stapol> I have a limited G4 Mac with no harddrive so knoppid is the best OS to run on a live cd?
[04:02] <sudoman> eth0> ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
[04:02] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: never mind i fixed it
[04:02] <antibody> intelikey: I have other nvidia.ko
[04:02] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: do you see the handles to the left of each applet or have you set them to be hidden
[04:02] <antibody> I don't want to the lrm one to be loaded but the more recent one
[04:02] <Dr_willis> man - my bash-fu is lacking...
[04:03] <sudoman> intelikey: i have a integrated network card but is detect it how eth1
[04:03] <antibody> going away
[04:03] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: i fixed it, they were locked
[04:03] <antibody> bye
[04:03] <antibody> it's late :(
[04:03] <sudoman> should be eth0
[04:03] <sudoman> :(
[04:03] <Dr_willis> trying to get the output of a command. and put " quotes " around it.. and  do a little more work to it - to send the data to my G15 keyboard lcd
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: once you have ti all setup you can hide the handles to make the taskbar look clean
[04:03] <Dr_willis> echo 'TL "Hello World" ' > g15pipe
[04:04] <intelikey> sudoman you need Dr_willis or someone that does networking  i do fs's and base configs..
[04:04] <Dr_willis> trying to replace "Hello World" with for example  the Top output.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> err. uptime  i mean. :)
[04:04] <justin1278> Ok, thanks
[04:04] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: how do I hide handles?
[04:05] <sudoman> mmm ok
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: right click on kicker Confgiure->Appearance click on advanced bottom left and them tick the hide box
[04:05] <sudoman> >
[04:05] <sudoman> :(
[04:05] <hatta> justin1278, loose shirts
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: in the second section down in the advanced section Applet Handles
[04:06] <sudoman> Dr_willis: can you help me ??
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: mark hide  then click on apply
[04:06] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I found it
[04:06] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: thanks
[04:07] <intelikey> Linux_Galore you know ifconfig stuff ?   sudoman needs some networking help.
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: becomes a problem though when you want to move applets later you have to unhide the handles again
[04:07] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok
[04:08] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: bit the hassle is worth the eye candy heh
[04:08] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: let me read the history
[04:08] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: no problem
[04:08] <Stapol> Is there a good palce tog et cheap hardware that ships to canada
[04:08] <TehUni> i've currently got 2 hard drives setup in raid 1 (software, md). i'm reinstalling linux. what do i need to do to be sure nothing happens to the data? then how do i reconstruct the array and have mdadm recognize it as one that was previously created?
[04:09] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have a question, under themes it says Invalid Base Path under the Installed Theme section.
[04:09] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: What's wrong with it?
[04:09] <intelikey> Stapol ebay
[04:10] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: ve been cheating lately and using kwlan,  it allows you to start restart configure your lan connections
[04:10] <sudoman> Linux_Galore: I have a 2 network card, but i extract 1 of the PC, now my PC have a integrated network card but this detect how eth1
[04:10] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: on the fly
[04:10] <Stapol> I mean a reputable pleace not ebay
[04:10] <Stapol> Something like tigerdirect or newegg for canada
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> sudoman: eht1 or 2 doesnt really matter to be honest,  you can define your network rules either way
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> eth*
[04:12] <sudoman> Linux_Galore: can you teach me
[04:12] <BluesKaj> Stapol, there is a tigerdirect.ca
[04:12] <sudoman> for todo
[04:12] <sudoman> to do *
[04:12] <Linux_Galore> sudoman:   run  kdesu systemsettings  and just setup your network connection rules for that device under the network section
[04:13] <Stapol> Anything else? I like having options
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> sudoman: disable and enable the device  eth0/1/2 whatever and it will restart
[04:14] <Linux_Galore> sudoman: you may also have firewall issues so install firestarter and use that to konfigure your routing rules
[04:15] <sudoman> THNX so much all
[04:15] <sudoman> :) i have to go
[04:15] <sudoman> Linux_Galore:  :)
[04:15] <sudoman> exit
[04:16] <Minataku> !find genii
[04:16] <ubotu> Package/file genii does not exist in edgy
[04:16] <Minataku> I know !seen doesn't work so I thought it was something else now
[04:16] <Minataku> lol
[04:17] <underdog5004> Minataku, find is only for packages, not for people, lol
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: Im using kubuntu way too much lol
[04:17] <Minataku> underdog5004: I thought !search was for packages (it is, BTW XD )
[04:17] <Minataku> underdog5004: He took !seen out, though
[04:17] <Minataku> !seen genii
[04:17] <underdog5004> oh...I guess both...I'm still a noob...
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen genii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <Minataku> How lame is that
[04:17] <underdog5004> weird, why did seen disappear?
[04:18] <Minataku> It was either broken, disabled or removed
[04:18] <Linux_Galore> !latest kernel
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latest kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> thats a question, whats the difference between  2.6.17-11 and the 2.6.17-50  kernel
[04:19] <zach> how do I get ext2
[04:19] <underdog5004> stability?
[04:19] <underdog5004> zach, mkfs.ext2 /path/to/device
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> dont know, just noticed it on the repo
[04:20] <underdog5004> be careful, that'll format the device
[04:20] <Kyral> but why use Ext2 when Ext3 exist
[04:20] <underdog5004> Kyral, I think it's easier to recover data from...that's what I heard, anyway
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Kyral: just use mkfs.ext3  if you want to I do
[04:21] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: For the really latest kernel, www.kernel.org
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: duh
[04:21] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: The -XX is the patchlevel, I believe
[04:21] <Kyral> underdog5004: Interesting that you say that when you consider that you can switch back and forth between ext2 and ext3 at will on a partition without data loss
[04:21] <Minataku> But if you're going to be a jerk maybe I won't bother helping you
[04:21] <underdog5004> Kyral, I think there is more journaling or something...
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: yeah but why the huge version number leap and why does the adept update tool ignore it
[04:21] <underdog5004> I'm not really an expert
[04:22] <Kyral> underdog5004: ext2 doesn't have Journalling :P
[04:22] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: No clue how *buntu does things
[04:22] <Kyral> underdog5004: in fact thats the big difference
[04:22] <underdog5004> ah, so infinetly more journaling, then
[04:22] <mart81> anyone here have read a freesoftwaremagazine? I am curious whether the magazine is any good. :)
[04:22] <Minataku> I'd think the former is because patches between just weren't released
[04:22] <underdog5004> mart81, I read it occasionally, it's really not that great...
[04:22] <Kyral> underdog5004: In fact if you specify the -j option to mkfs.ext2 its the same as mkfs.ext3 :P
[04:22] <antibody> hey hi
[04:22] <antibody> one simples question
[04:22] <Minataku> The latter perhaps because it's flagged in the repository to be ignored or it could be some undefined stupidity
[04:23] <antibody> what's the dir to make some modules load with any option?
[04:23] <antibody> (not any....with some specified options)
[04:23] <Minataku> I get/compile my kernels straight from kernel.org whenever I feel like updating my kernel
[04:24] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Sorry to snap at you like that, BTW
[04:24] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: meh, Im in marketing
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Wee - i got my G15 keyboard actually doing things in Linux now. :)
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: and your human
[04:25] <Minataku> You assume... correctly
[04:25] <Minataku> XD
[04:25] <Minataku> Sorry, lame joke X3
[04:26] <enzo_> Anyone know where I'd be able to find a torrent for Spector 6?
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: people always say things they regret later, we all do, i just accept people have emotions and sometimes they can take over the mind
[04:26] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Definitely
[04:26] <Minataku> enzo_: We aren't asking for warez, are we?
[04:26] <enzo_> Nope
[04:27] <Minataku> Because we don't support such activities nor sites like thepiratebay.org
[04:27] <flaccid> thanks Minataku i'll check it out
[04:27] <Minataku> lol
[04:27] <flaccid> any others we don't support?
[04:27] <enzo_> My mother-in-law wants to know what her son is upto and I thought about this app a while back and just now got around to wanting to test its features and see if it suites what she wants to do
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: aaah, you wont like my mythbox machine that runs ubuntu, the start sound is "YO-HO Yo-HO a pirates life for me"
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> heh
[04:28] <flaccid> arrr arr
[04:28] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: lol
[04:28] <Minataku> Take note "we" doesn't include myself
[04:28] <flaccid> treasure
[04:28] <enzo_> I can easily find spector 5, but 6 has MySpace controls so that she can see what he's doing and saying and all of that good stuff
[04:28] <Minataku> ;3
[04:28] <flaccid> well this channel aint #spector
[04:28] <zach> !gnome
[04:28] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:29] <Minataku> enzo_: I take it this is some sort of commercial spyware?
[04:29] <Minataku> Which more than likely doesn't run on Linux anyway?
[04:29] <enzo_> Minataku: Somewhat
[04:30] <zach> how do I write to a floppy
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: stole the sound file from my old amiga, there was an app used to copy files bit by bit,  the start sound was the "Yo-HO"  sound file
[04:30] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry if this sounds condescending, but why would you ask a Linux channel about Windows software?
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> hello guys... helpme?
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> Starting LimeWire...
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[04:30] <Minataku> Especially one we'd never support even if we did use Windows?
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: means you have to install java
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> !java
[04:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:30] <Minataku> Instead of spying on your child, try talking to him/her instead
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, but i have it installed
[04:30] <enzo_> Minataku: Believe me, it hit me a bit late
[04:31] <Dr_willis> lancelot_rw,  use java --version (or -version) to see which java you are using
[04:31] <zach> how do I write to a floppy
[04:31] <Minataku> Conversation will get you a whole lot farther than a complete and utter violation of trust
[04:31] <lancelot_rw> java version "1.4.2"
[04:31] <lancelot_rw> humpf.. now i found the problems
[04:31] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: did you set the default java version as mentioned near the end of the howto, the normal default is a gnu java hack that wont work with comercial apps
[04:32] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry to be a jerk, BTW, I'm just in a mood like that I guess
[04:32] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i will try to install it via apt-get.. because my version is java version "1.4.2"
[04:32] <lancelot_rw> if it doesnt work out.. i will try the how-to , ok ?
[04:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: yeah 1.4.2 is deprecated with p2p apps
[04:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: need version 5
[04:32] <Minataku> As for where to find it, I certainly wouldn't expect such to be somewhere like thepiratebay.org, not that I'd suggest you look at a place that deals in P2P sharing of various things
[04:32] <zach> how do I write to a floppy
[04:33] <Minataku> zach: Depends how you need to write to it
[04:33] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore,  get:5 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-06-1 [7341kB] 
[04:33] <Minataku> Raw or standard?
[04:33] <lancelot_rw> im downloadin via atp-get
[04:33] <enzo_> Minataku: I deal with idiots all day long... I'm in TechSupport
[04:33] <Minataku> enzo_: Heh, I apologize to you and you call me an idiot? ;3
[04:33] <zach> Minataku: what is the diffrence?
[04:34] <Minataku> zach: Raw is if you have a floppy image you want to write to a floppy
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: dont forget to set your default java version because that will install another version of java but it wont remove the old version so you have to set your default new version
[04:34] <lancelot_rw> how do I set it ?
[04:34] <Minataku> zach: Standard is if you're trying to save a file or two to a filesystem on a floppy
[04:34] <zach> Minataku: wel then, standard
[04:34] <Minataku> zach: Gotta mount it
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:35] <zach> Minataku: I mounted it an it says I need administrative rights
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: it will list all the installed version of java and ask you to select one
[04:35] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry (again)... just read carefully my tips, while it looks like I'm not helping you, read closer
[04:36] <Minataku> zach: Do you mean you tried to mount it and it failed?
[04:36] <zach> no
[04:36] <Minataku> Sorry, I don't use KDE
[04:36] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, yes.. i did that.. but lime didnt started...
[04:37] <zach> Who USes KDE?
[04:37] <Minataku> So I don't know what kind of errors it spews in situation X or Y
[04:37] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, now it worked
[04:37] <lancelot_rw> =)
[04:37] <lancelot_rw> many thanks man
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: aaah, use frostwire
[04:37] <Minataku> zach: You use KDE, or at the very least you use a KDE IRC client
[04:38] <zach> I know
[04:38] <enzo_> Minataku: Sorry, I was away for a bit. I was talking about your "mood". I have them screaming in my ear, sending in incoherent emails, etc. Your "mood" doesn't even come close.
[04:38] <Minataku> zach: Either way, your user account lacks, for one reason or another, permission to read/write to the floppy
[04:38] <Minataku> enzo_: Ah
[04:38] <Minataku> No worries
[04:38] <zach> how do I  gel permission to write to a floppy?
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> zach: ?? what are you mounting
[04:39] <Minataku> enzo_: Yeah, tech support personell tend to get the short end of the stick
[04:39] <zach> Linux_Galore: Floppy
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> zach: add you user to floppy group
[04:39] <enzo_> Minataku: and also all the transferred calls
[04:40] <Minataku> enzo_: Indeed
[04:40] <Minataku> Thanks, Linux_Galore and sorry I couldn't assist, zach
[04:40] <Minataku> lol
[04:40] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I used one just yesterday
[04:40] <zach> Thank You
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: lucky you, I hate the things
[04:41] <Minataku> Hell, I bent over backwards figuring out how to replace the FDD in my "new" Dell System 326LT
[04:41] <Minataku> *316LT
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> zach: get a USB thumb drive, floppies are terrible devices
[04:41] <Minataku> Which would only work with some dumbass Sony FDD
[04:41] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: No, they're not, and keep opinions like that out of the assistance
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: ooh yeah, they are so great, single threading with rubbish ide protocols that make it hang your machine, goto love it
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: one of the reason Apple got rid of the floppy was its such a bad design when used with a multi user OS
[04:43] <Minataku> Always good to have a floppy around to save your ass
[04:43] <lancelot_rw> hwo do I set an icon on "K bar" (KDE) to show the Desktop.. (like windows*)
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> Minataku:  havnet used a floppy in 3 years, no issues recovering any systems yet
[04:44] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Apple does a lot of stupid things for a lot of even stupider reasons
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: a floppy isnt multi user
[04:44] <Minataku> Considering hardly any Apple machines run Multiuser
[04:44] <Minataku> That's really a nonissue
[04:45] <Minataku> They dropped it because it was "obsolete" or rather, by their reasoning, "not cool"
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: also a 32mb thumb drive is like $8
[04:45] <zach> How do I add myself to the floppy group?
[04:45] <mart81> lancelot_rw: unlock panel, right click, add to panel, view desktop. (note: translated)
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> zach: look in kcontrol
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> zach:  alt F2  kcontrol
[04:46] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I'm a computer collector, and floppies are quite invaluable to me
[04:46] <Kyral> lancelot_rw: It might be called "Show Desktop"
[04:46] <Minataku> Considering on most of these machines I'd be 100% aground without them
[04:46] <Minataku> s/most/a\ number/
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: I collect PDA's,  less pace wasted and they look cool all lines up on the wall behind glass
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> space*
[04:47] <Minataku> While that's a nice collection, I can't say I appreciate you taking a shot at what I like to collect
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: over sized paper weights heh
[04:47] <Kyral> ....
[04:47] <Kyral> both of you...
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> heh
[04:48] <Minataku> How does he do it!?
[04:48] <Kyral> ....
[04:48] <Kyral> Both of you take it to PM
[04:48] <Minataku> lol
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> aaaw, no fun
[04:48] <Minataku> Actually I'm in a better mood now, I'd rather apologize and just end it instead
[04:48] <DBO> head sphincter interaction should be kept in private
[04:48] <Minataku> Sorry about all that, Linux_Galore
[04:48] <lancelot_rw> mart81, Kyral thanks!!
[04:49] <Kyral> Linux_Galore: More like I have a headache and tired and am approaching BOFH mode :P
[04:49] <Kyral> lancelot_rw: np
[04:49] <Minataku> Kyral: Instead of taking it out on people, go take some Tylenol and have a nap
[04:49] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Nothing in there anyway *grabs it back*
[04:49] <Kyral> Minataku: Oh if I went to BOFH mode I'd be the one being banned :P
[04:50] <Minataku> Kyral: lol
[04:50] <Minataku> Kyral: Hard to tell around here, considering the practice of hiding status
[04:50] <Kyral> ?
[04:50] <lancelot_rw> Kyral, i installed Kubuntu today.. and i'm now configuring my system
[04:50] <Kyral> I meant literally banned from the channel
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> its like 34C here in Sydney
[04:51] <enzo_> What is the command to restore GRUB?
[04:51] <Minataku> Kyral: I know
[04:51] <Kyral> lancelot_rw: Have fun. And words of advice...don't be afraid to break it :D
[04:51] <Minataku> And I was saying that I wouldn't know if you would be banner or banee
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: like  grub-install
[04:51] <Kyral> Its how I learned 90% of the stuff I know :D
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: no
[04:51] <Minataku> Since nobody shows status around here
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> heh
[04:51] <lancelot_rw> Kyral, yeah.,. im not.. thanks! :>
[04:51] <enzo_> Linux_Galore: nope
[04:51] <zach> !grub
[04:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:51] <enzo_> Let me clarify my question...
[04:51] <Minataku> Indeed, you can't really learn unless you're allowed to hurt yourself
[04:52] <enzo_> What METHOD can actually restore GRUB?
[04:52] <Minataku> You don't really know that "FIRE BAD" until you touch it and get burned
[04:52] <Kyral> enzo_: Read the link
[04:52] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: depends what you means by restore.
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: restore the mbr ?? restore the default setup ?
[04:53] <Minataku> But yeah, sorry all for getting out of hand
[04:53] <linija> Ummmm. Newbie here... How do I change to directory (cd command) with 2 words with space between words. (underscore doesn't do it)?
[04:53] <Minataku> Sorry especially to you, Linux_Galore XD
[04:53] <Minataku> linija: \
[04:53] <linija> thank you
[04:53] <Minataku> np
[04:54] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, is this FrostWire a clone of LimeWire ?
[04:54] <lancelot_rw> LOL
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: yep, same service less ram
[04:55] <Kyral> Linux_Galore: That describes Linux (in relation to Windows :P)
[04:55] <Minataku> enzo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows << That should do it for ya
[04:55] <underdog5004> rofl
[04:55] <Minataku> Windows is a jerk and overwrites the MBR
[04:55] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, great! :>
[04:55] <Minataku> If the MBR is trashed then GRUB is too
[04:55] <Minataku> But if GRUB alone is trashed, then the same applies
[04:55] <Minataku> It has to be reinstalled
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: aah,  windows is like when your mum visits and changes everything without asking
[04:56] <Minataku> enzo_: Are you getting "GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB..." when you boot?
[04:56] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Precisely
[04:57] <Minataku> Keep in mind I consider Windows' excuse for a bootloader as a trashed MBR
[04:57] <Minataku> lol
[04:57] <enzo_> Yes Minataku
[04:58] <Minataku> enzo_: Then yeah, GRUB needs to be reinstalled
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: need to reinstall grub
[04:59] <Minataku> That link should be just what you need despite not being for the specific reason
[04:59] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry again about earlier ( I apologize a lot because I have an OCD... sorry >.< )
[05:00] <Minataku> But yeah, if GRUB gets hosed and prints that over and over it just needs a reinstall
[05:00] <Minataku> mart81: Really that's not even needed in this case, just keeping the LiveCD handy can get you out of this problem
[05:01] <mart81> Minataku: i know, but having todo a single command just rocks :p
[05:01] <Minataku> I gotta go take my pills then reboot my SPARCstation LX into Solaris
[05:01] <enzo_> Minataku: You're fine in my book :)
[05:01] <Minataku> enzo_: :D
[05:02] <Minataku> mart81: True, but it's a bit more technical than most Kubuntu users would be willing to attempt
[05:02] <underdog5004> lol, speaking of LiveCDs, DSL (www.damnsmalllinux.org) is, IMHO, the best liveCD ever (let the flamers begin)
[05:02] <enzo_> So now my question becomes HOW do I reinstall GRUB. Every other method has failed on me so far
[05:02] <Minataku> enzo_: Booting from the LiveCD and running grub_install should be it
[05:03] <Minataku> Or even using GRUB from the LiveCD to boot into installed
[05:03] <Minataku> Then reinstalling from there
[05:03] <Minataku> Sorry, but I gotta go take my pills, bbiab
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or boot a live cd, chroot over to the installed system and run grub_install
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: I suspect grub itself is broken, most people foget grub isnt the code that resides in the mbr its on the first primary partition of the OS
[05:07] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: basically you need to boot of the cd  chroot the /  partition cd to  the chrooted  and apt-get install grub again but use the version of apt  in the chrooted directory
[05:08] <snowrichard> \
[05:08] <ernie> has anyone with Kubuntu 6.10 had Konqueror Web Links open up In the Kate editor instead of a webpage when clicked on
[05:10] <juano__> hello everyone!
[05:10] <mart81> ernie: yup, i have, sometimes it does not give any option, really odd.
[05:10] <mart81> ernie: but that is not only the case in 6.10 afaik
[05:11] <mey> pordon para entrar en un canal espaol?
[05:11] <mey> Hola
[05:11] <ernie> mart81 - ok - I cant seem to find where you can - turn that "feature" off :)
[05:12] <cpk1> if I installed a bunch of stuff via apt and it still is in my cache is there a way I can have another computer on the same network pull those same apps from there instead of the web?
[05:12] <juano__> !es | mey
[05:12] <ubotu> mey: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:12] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: if grub is corrupted I would expect many other things are broken too
[05:12] <enzo_> I can boot into the / partition with Super Grub Disk
[05:12] <bomber> i need help
[05:13] <enzo_> so really I just need to login, and "sudo apt-get install grub"? or what is the pkg name?
[05:13] <bomber> i am getting no signal in tvtime
[05:13] <mart81> ernie: tell me about it, my personaly fix is to right click the page and choose "open with firefox", which is an extra option which should appear when you have firefox installed.
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: being able to see a partition or file doesnt mean its not corrupted
[05:13] <Minataku> Back
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: yeah. basically reinstall grub
[05:13] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I've had the same issue before
[05:14] <jay> How is vmware different from Qemu?
[05:14] <Minataku> If it prints "GRUB" over and over a simple reinstall is all you need
[05:14] <Dr_willis> jay,  similer tools.. differnt people/companies wrote  them.
[05:14] <enzo_> Thank you Minataku and Linux_Galore
[05:14] <Minataku> enzo_: np
[05:14] <Dr_willis> qemu is gpl. vmware is not.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> the 2 are similer in what they do. but not related otherwise.
[05:15] <Minataku> QEMU is an open-source virtualization system, targeting various architectures
[05:15] <ernie> mart18 :) Well I kind of just run FF instead for browsing now - although on a "thinking about other stuff" moment - Click - up pops Kate :)
[05:15] <jay> I swear I saw somewhere on some site where qemu emulates things "better" than vmware where a window appears with it''s own native window manager inside ur linux os
[05:15] <Dr_willis> jay,  i dont even understand what you just said. :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:15] <Minataku> VMWare is a commercial virtualization system, targeting one or two architectures and providing far greater "oomph"
[05:15] <jay> lol
[05:16] <Minataku> VMWare will typically produce a faster emulated system
[05:16] <Dr_willis> vmware-server is a lot of fun to play with. ya can run live cd's with it. and other neat tricks.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> saves me a lot of cd's
[05:16] <mart81> ernie: yeah it's frustating sometimes, the other bugger it that is wants you to save *.php files from time to time for whatever reason.
[05:16] <Minataku> Whereas QEMU is slower (faster with the binary KQEMU, though)
[05:16] <jay> For example.. if you installed Internet Explorer, instead of having the entire os running in a window, the applications running in the guest os run in their own window in your OS
[05:16] <jay> that's incorrect?
[05:16] <Minataku> jay: Both do the same
[05:16] <Dr_willis> jay,  with vmware/qemu - you DONT just install internet explorer..
[05:17] <Dr_willis> they emulate the whole machine and need a whole os.
[05:17] <ernie> Jay - thats a program called Wine that can do that - not in all cases though
[05:17] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, do u know any other p2p app?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> with 'wine' you can install IE. (ick)
[05:17] <Minataku> QEMU and VMWare both run an emulated system within the confines of the host OS
[05:17] <jay> I have vmware installed.. I was just wondering if Qemu actually did what I just said
[05:17] <Minataku> jay: It does
[05:17] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, frost and lime are not downloading songs =/
[05:17] <Minataku> I know what you're getting at and it does
[05:17] <Minataku> lol
[05:17] <Linux_Galore> jay: I use a thing called crossover, basically  90% of all my windows apps run in Linux without windows being installed
[05:17] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: install firestarter and manage your routing
[05:18] <jay> 90%??? wow.. that's alot
[05:18] <jay> I can't even get CS2 to run
[05:18] <juano__> Linux_Galore: yep, i do crossover too
[05:18] <Linux_Galore> yeah, even WoW works
[05:18] <Dr_willis> 'games' dont count. :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:18] <ernie> Linux_Galore - what kind of things can crossover - not run - besides really badly written windows apps
[05:18] <Linux_Galore> well office XP pro works fine
[05:18] <Minataku> Games are more on Cedega's side than Crossover
[05:18] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, let me try
[05:18] <Dr_willis> WoW seems to break somthing with wine/cedega/whatever - with every new WoW patch
[05:18] <juano__> Dr_willis: Cedega can run some games.. though its not XP :) lol
[05:18] <Minataku> My suggestion if you're a PC gamer
[05:19] <Dr_willis> WoW is evil! Friends dont let friends play WoW
[05:19] <Linux_Galore> lol
[05:19] <Minataku> Keep a high-end Windows PC for games ONLY
[05:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:19] <Minataku> Keep an older/cheaper Linux PC for EVERYTHING ELSE
[05:19] <juano__> Minataku: very true
[05:19] <Linux_Galore> get a XBOX360, end of issue, also consoles now get games released before the PC
[05:19] <Minataku> Caps necessary
[05:19] <Minataku> Mmmm... XBox 360
[05:20] <Linux_Galore> if got my xbox working with my samba shares now so it playes my video files on my file server
[05:20] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Cool
[05:20] <Minataku> XBox 360 connected to a Linux Media System XD
[05:20] <Minataku> FIGHT THE POWER
[05:20] <Minataku> X3
[05:21] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: yep, works a treat,  just use the xbox as a front end to my media/file server
[05:21] <Minataku> Sweeeet
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> my media server grabs stuff of cable then ripps it to avi on the fly, get home and watch it on my TV via the xbox
[05:25] <Linux_Galore> I cant see the logic now of having a PC for games, the new consoles are so powerfull and they support on-line gaming now so why bother with a PC with wincrap just for games
[05:26] <lancelot_rw> yeah, i agree with you Linux_Galore
[05:26] <Linux_Galore> also PC games come out later than the console version
[05:27] <underdog5004> ummm, can anyone tell me why my box freezes (sometimes unfreezes) whenever I use skype to call someone? Only when I call someone, not when I start skype...
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> got a 52" 16:10 1080i/p LCD last xmas on special and its great with games
[05:27] <Dr_willis> i dont see the need for a console. we got IRC!
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> 8ums refresh
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> 8ms*
[05:28] <underdog5004> Linux_Galore does have a point
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> underdog5004: sounds like it having issues connecting to the sound server
[05:29] <Linux_Galore> underdog5004: make sure it set to use alsa
[05:29] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I'm a console gamer as well
[05:29] <Linux_Galore> underdog5004: i think the "Linux doesnt have games" think is a none issue now
[05:29] <Linux_Galore> thing*
[05:31] <Linux_Galore> Linux is great as a destop/ office XP works thansk to crossover and I use Linux as a media backend for the xbox
[05:31] <Linux_Galore> I have no logical use for windows
[05:31] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, crossover is like an emulator for win apps?
[05:31] <underdog5004> Linux_Galore, why use office XP?
[05:31] <underdog5004> !openoffice
[05:31] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: not really, crossover pretends to be the win32 api sp windows apps think they are running in windows
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: I wouls say its more of a win32 api translator
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> would*
[05:33] <enzo_> Minataku: Linux_Galore: Would I have to first uninstall/remove grub and then install it again, or just install and let it pave over?
[05:33] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, great.. i'll try it... google? can i find it there?
[05:33] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: no just install it again
[05:33] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: it will overwrite the old one
[05:34] <enzo_> I hope so
[05:34] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: hold on let me hand you the link
[05:34] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, okey man
[05:36] <Minataku> Yeah, just overwrite (sorry for the delay)
[05:37] <enzo_> Cross your fingers and your nodes...
[05:38] <enzo_> Nope
[05:38] <enzo_> Still GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB
[05:38] <enzo_> ...
[05:39] <enzo_> Oh well, it was worth a shot
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: did you get the link
[05:40] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, yes
[05:40] <lancelot_rw> i'll download that
[05:41] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: yep  , unpack it , cd to the Linux directory, I installed the version that installs in the users account that way its more secure
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, any torrent app for linux?
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> found it
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> ;-)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> theres dozens of torrent clients out for linux
[05:42] <Dr_willis> ktorrent is very nice
[05:42] <underdog5004> lancelot_rw, rtorrent, ktorrent, azureus
[05:42] <underdog5004> i prefer rtorrent on my server...awesomeness
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> underdog5004, thanks
[05:43] <flaccid> i don't like ktorrent
[05:43] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, do I have to download OSX files too ?
[05:43] <lancelot_rw> notech, right?
[05:43] <lancelot_rw> notech, sorry
[05:43] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw:  upack it  cd ~/Crossocer\ 6 \Final/Linux/Loki \Installer/  then chmod a+x install-crossover-pro-6.0.0.sh  then ./install-crossover-pro-6.0.0.sh
[05:43] <notech> lancelot_rw: no problem :)
[05:44] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: no the osx stuff isnt needed but its a zip file so there is little choice
[05:44] <flaccid> sh ./nonexec.sh
[05:44] <solidsource> anyone here use Automatix and get the error "E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes"...specifically the nvidia driver
[05:44] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: automatix is a great way to break you install
[05:44] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, when I added the torrent to the Ktorrent it lets me to choose download only linux folder
[05:45] <Linux_Galore> your*
[05:45] <lancelot_rw> it will take 1 hour of download
[05:45] <lancelot_rw> nops.. 30 minutes LOL
[05:45] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: cant do that with ktorrent it breaks it ive tried it already
[05:45] <solidsource> Linux_Galore: I have had good luck with Automatix before, this is first problem I'm had
[05:45] <solidsource> I've*
[05:45] <crazy_bus> I
[05:46] <flaccid> !automatix
[05:46] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:46] <flaccid> hehe
[05:46] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: there is actually no logical reason to use automatix, all the packages are in adept anyway
[05:46] <crazy_bus> I'm downloading a video tutorial, but unfortunatly its in .swf format.  What linux player can play it besides a webrowser?
[05:46] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i will restart download than
[05:46] <flaccid> !swfplayer
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swfplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <lancelot_rw> then*
[05:47] <flaccid> !find swf
[05:47] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.8-swfdec, libflash-swfplayer, libswf-perl, libswfdec0.3, libswfdec0.3-dev (and 1 others)
[05:47] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: azureus can split files but ktorrent cant
[05:47] <solidsource> Linux_Galore: yeah, keep getting a gamma problem when I do it that way or even just using the script
[05:47] <lancelot_rw> sometimes english fails .. LOL
[05:47] <flaccid> !libflsh-swfplayer | crazy_bus
[05:47] <flaccid> !libflash-swfplayer
[05:47] <ubotu> libflash-swfplayer: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - stand-alone player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:48] <Linux_Galore> actually kaffeine can play flash files if you install the player
[05:49] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, limewire doesnt connects... the network metter is red.. =/
[05:49] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: means you dont have a port open
[05:50] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: install  firestarter
[05:50] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i click connect and it doesnt work
[05:50] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: it allows you to manage your ports graphically on the fly
[05:50] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i've already installed Firestarter.... i will try to use that
[05:50] <flaccid> thats not going to help if the router aint forwarding
[05:51] <crazy_bus> flaccid: the package is named libflash-swfplayer for me instead of libflsh-swf....
[05:51] <solidsource> I find Frostwire to work better
[05:52] <flaccid> yeah fish was a spelling mistake soz
[05:53] <crazy_bus> that program doesn't seem to work for me, it just slows the computer right down and doesn't load properly
[05:53] <flaccid> crazy_bus: yeah i get that a lot
[05:53] <flaccid> seems to be borked on ubuntu
[05:54] <crazy_bus> is there a plugin to get it to work on kaffeine, mplayer etc?
[05:54] <flaccid> oops
[05:54] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, FireStarter = Allow Service (Unknown) Port 7760 For Everyone
[05:54] <lancelot_rw> and it is still red (limewire)
[05:55] <crazy_bus> I can play the file in konqueror.  The only problem is that its scaled or something.  The text looks weird
[05:58] <Linux_Galore> crazy_bus: install the flash player then restart kaffeine and you can change the engine under Setting Player Engine
[05:59] <lancelot_rw> brb
[06:03] <Lebowski_> i type sudo oem-config-prepare in run command and nothing happens
[06:04] <illusin1> Hi, how do you "reinstall" an existing kernel (wipe the existing instance and replace it with a fresh copy)?
[06:04] <flaccid> whats a gui program to rip dvds?
[06:04] <solidsource> K9Copy works well
[06:05] <LaNCeLoT_RW> great! now my frostwire is downloading! thanks Linux_Galore
[06:06] <Lebowski_> how do i get rid of this oem user
[06:06] <stdin> Lebowski_: it's a shell command, you should now just restart and setup should continue
[06:06] <flaccid> thanks solidsource
[06:06] <stdin> illusin1: why would you need to ?
[06:07] <flaccid> solidsource: can you rip to anything kind of thing. what can you rip dvd video to?
[06:08] <Hail_Spacecake> does anyone know of an ubuntu repository that has ZSNES on it?
[06:08] <solidsource> flaccid: I have been able to rip every kind of DVD (not sure if I've tried HD DVDs yet). its default is to rip into ISO format, but you can change that setting to a couple others
[06:09] <flaccid> solidsource: can you rip a dvd and encode to say divx/xvid/mpg etc. ?
[06:09] <MuJ> Hail_Spacecake: multiverse
[06:09] <solidsource> flaccid: hold on let me verify
[06:10] <Lebowski_> i rebooted and asking for oem password again
[06:10] <Hail_Spacecake> multiverse?
[06:10] <stdin> !repos | Hail_Spacecake
[06:10] <ubotu> Hail_Spacecake: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:10] <flaccid> thanks mate
[06:11] <stdin> Lebowski_: this is the help page for OEM installs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[06:11] <Lebowski_> thanks
[06:11] <illusin1> stdin: I need to do this because I tried to follow a guide for beryl installation (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851) and it messed up my system (even when I revereted the xorg.conf file to it's original copy)
[06:11] <solidsource> flaccid: you can do xvid, but if you want that, you might want to try something else
[06:12] <stdin> illusin1: that's nothing to go with the kernel
[06:12] <solidsource> flaccid: generally only copy any DVD for a backup, which means I just burn a disc immediately
[06:13] <illusin1> std: it seems it does, as when I switched to an older kernel, it started to work (albeit with only one screen now)
[06:14] <Linux_Galore> yeah, kaffeine can play swf file just set  netscape Plugin viewer  as the engine
[06:14] <stdin> illusin1: can't see how it is anything to do with the kernel, but, boot in to the older kernel then remove the newer kernel, then just install it again
[06:14] <Linux_Galore> under the Settings -> Engine menu in kaffeine
[06:15] <illusin1> stdin: how do I "delete" a kernel version? do I need to delete the directory in /usr/linux/src (or wherever it is)?
[06:15] <Linux_Galore> illusin1: no,  run adept and remove the kernel packages for the old version
[06:15] <stdin> illusin1: no, just remove the package in adept, or with apt-get
[06:16] <solidsource> flaccid: try DVDrip and AcidRip, they have more features than k9copy
[06:16] <illusin1> stdin/Linux_Galore: got it, thanks :)
[06:19] <solidsource> has anyone been able to get the visualizations to work in amarok, installed libvisual and the libvisual plugins and getting nothing
[06:21] <flaccid> thanks solidsource
[06:21] <vursitis> hello everyone
[06:21] <solidsource> np flaccid
[06:31] <lancelot_rw> still doesnt appearing
[06:31] <flaccid> ah well
[06:31] <flaccid> log out and then back in
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> i've already restarted my computer
[06:32] <flaccid> maybe you removed the thing from the tray that gives it
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> flaccid, take a look
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/109/snapshot1tl0.png
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> please
[06:32] <darweth> Anyone know why the public key on Riddell's Amarok repos is not writing?
[06:33] <flaccid> add the task bar applet back if it aint there
[06:33] <stdin> darweth: do you have the error message ?
[06:34] <darweth> kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg: Permission denied
[06:34] <darweth> Cannot write to `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' (Permission denied).
[06:34] <darweth> with a wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:34] <flaccid> ask jriddell about it
[06:34] <lancelot_rw> flaccid, thanks man
[06:34] <stdin> darweth: make sure you are saving it in your home directory, just type "cd" and press enter first
[06:34] <flaccid> lancelot_rw: np
[06:35] <darweth> yeah.  i am in home. :)
[06:35] <darweth> oh wait.
[06:35] <darweth> doh.  thanks. :P
[06:35] <flaccid> oh
[06:35] <flaccid> i misread
[06:35] <stdin> darweth: heh, we all have one of those moments :P
[06:36] <darweth> i already had a horrible moment today out of stupidity. :P
[06:36] <darweth> i just had to reinstall Ubuntu.  hehe.
[06:36] <flaccid> you don't need to keep the key once installed so you could wget it in /tmp, add the key then it will be cleared from /tmp on reboot
[06:36] <stdin> I just do "wget URLofKey -
[06:37] <stdin> ahh, :P I just do "wget URLofKey -O-|sudo apt-key add -"
[06:37] <lancelot_rw> anyone knows how can i add a 32-bit apps repository?
[06:37] <darweth> just don't do a chmod -R 777 on your entire master drive from a live disc.
[06:37] <flaccid> !repos
[06:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:37] <darweth> :O :O :O
[06:37] <flaccid> haha
[06:37] <flaccid> i prefer rm -Rf /
[06:38] <jessej> how do i install kdevelop?  it's grayed out in add/remove programs
[06:38] <flaccid> !kdevelop
[06:38] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[06:38] <stdin> enable universe
[06:38] <flaccid> enable universe repos then you should be able to install it
[06:38] <jessej> where do i enable universe?
[06:38] <stdin> !repos | jessej
[06:38] <ubotu> jessej: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:39] <lancelot_rw> great.. but anyone knows a repository link? 32-bit apps
[06:39] <lancelot_rw> kubuntu 6.06 (dapper)
[06:40] <stdin> lancelot_rw: there is no "32-bit" reop, apt/dpkg decide what architecture to use
[06:40] <lancelot_rw> =/
[06:40] <lancelot_rw> thats not nice .. LOL
[06:41] <geekgod_> anyone know how to patch wine with a bin file
[06:45] <stdin> lancelot_rw: looking about, I think all you need to "enable" you to run 32bit apps are these packages "ia32-libs ia32-libs-kde ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2"
[06:47] <lancelot_rw> stdin, i'll download and install all of these packages
[06:47] <geekgod_> any idea how to make apt respect prefrence file
[06:47] <lancelot_rw> =)
[06:48] <lancelot_rw> guys.. im using KPF to share files.. is there a way to upload files from another computer to mine using this app?
[06:49] <jessej> kdevelop is still grayed out in add/remove programs after activating universe
[06:49] <stdin> jessej: can you install it in adept manager?
[06:50] <flaccid> jessej: can you run a command in konsole like sudo apt-get install kdevelop ?
[06:50] <jessej> hold on i will check
[06:50] <flaccid> yeah try adept first sorry
[06:50] <jessej> i tried the command in command line and that didn't work
[06:50] <stdin> lancelot_rw: don't think so, kpf is just a small http server
[06:50] <lancelot_rw> ok.
[06:50] <Minataku> !find mame
[06:50] <ubotu> Found: kxmame, xmame-common, xmame-gl, xmame-sdl, xmame-svga (and 2 others)
[06:50] <jessej> a search for kdevelop in adpt turned up no results
[06:50] <Minataku> Hm
[06:50] <Minataku> !find sdlmame
[06:51] <ubotu> Package/file sdlmame does not exist in edgy
[06:51] <Minataku> Bah
[06:51] <Minataku> Someone needs to get on the ball
[06:51] <stdin> jessej: make sure you "Fetch all updates" in adept (top left button, that looks like a refresh button)
[06:51] <lancelot_rw> why my KTorrent stalled download at 99,85% ??
[06:51] <lancelot_rw> oh my god
[06:51] <solidsource> anyone getting this problem: Adept Notifier saying there is an update even though you have downloaded them all and even rececked the sources?
[06:51] <Minataku> XMAME is pretty much dead
[06:51] <TheDebugger> Have you ever had that problem... When you're in the system settings, you click on Administrator mode for System Services or User Management and you never get the authentification prompt?
[06:51] <stdin> solidsource: try opening adept manager and updating from there
[06:52] <Minataku> TheDebugger: Is it caching the last time you authenticated?
[06:52] <solidsource> have done that
[06:52] <Hail_Spacecake> i installed the GNOME version of ubuntu
[06:52] <vursitis>  do you have all of your repositories enabled?
[06:52] <Minataku> I vaugely remember long ago only having to type it once
[06:52] <TheDebugger> Minataku: Doesn't look like that :/
[06:52] <Hail_Spacecake> but I like KDE better :)
[06:52] <solidsource> still reports there is an update
[06:52] <Minataku> TheDebugger: Weird
[06:52] <Hail_Spacecake> so what do I need to do to get KDE on the system?
[06:52] <logan> does anyone have  trouble with their icons' thumbnails (image files) not refreshing on the desktop after alteration?
[06:52] <Minataku> Hail_Spacecake: Install KDE
[06:52] <stdin> Hail_Spacecake: just install the package "kubuntu-desktop" that's it
[06:52] <Minataku> !kde
[06:52] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:53] <stdin> Hail_Spacecake: DON'T install the "kde" package
[06:53] <jessej> kdevelop is not listed in adept
[06:53] <vursitis> check your repositories
[06:53] <Hail_Spacecake> okay
[06:53] <Hail_Spacecake> but why not?
[06:53] <Hail_Spacecake> what will that do?
[06:53] <vursitis> see if all of them are enabled, and have you added the multiverse one?
[06:53] <niles> hi
[06:53] <stdin> solidsource: try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in konsole, and post the output to pastebin ( http://pastebin.ca )
[06:53] <Minataku> Hail_Spacecake: Make your life difficult
[06:54] <Minataku> In making things easier, behind the scenes things are harder
[06:54] <jessej> i added universe with the multiverse edit just as that page directed
[06:54] <ernie> jessej - I have kdevelop listed under my Adept Manager
[06:54] <Minataku> So just do that line there
[06:54] <Minataku> !kde | Hail_Spacecake
[06:54] <ubotu> Hail_Spacecake: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:54] <niles> what is the command to have my video card drivers use vesa ?
[06:54] <Minataku> Which is probably a metapackage that grabs everything that's needed
[06:54] <andres_> who knows of this error:    there was an error loading the theme human             can't open file/usr/share/gdm/themes/human/human.xml
[06:54] <niles> i pulled my hard drive out of a PC using ati drivers,  and now i need to switch to vesa.
[06:54] <flaccid> kde is part of kubuntu, Minataku
[06:55] <flaccid> Hail_Spacecake: you didn't install kubuntu desktop, only minimal?
[06:55] <stdin> Hail_Spacecake: the KDE package is the normal kde meta-package, kubuntu-desktop installed a default Kubuntu desktop, different from the KDE package
[06:55] <andres_> who helps me?
[06:55] <Hail_Spacecake> no, I installed the GNOME desktop
[06:55] <lancelot_rw> anyone knows a good Messenger client?
[06:55] <Minataku> flaccid: I know that, he wanted KDE but he installed Ubuntu
[06:55] <Minataku> Not Kubuntu
[06:55] <Hail_Spacecake> I accidentally downloaded the wrong ISO and I didn't feel like redownloading it
[06:55] <Hail_Spacecake> yes, exactly
[06:55] <stdin> andres_: that's a gnome/gdm issue, ask in #ubuntu
[06:56] <ernie> :) that would be an appropriate message for some peoples PC's - you need to install a new human :) Good title for a blog
[06:56] <flaccid> Minataku: i'm sorry i misread earlier
[06:56] <flaccid> sorry guys im' a bit drunk
[06:56] <stdin> lancelot_rw: kopete is good, and installed by default in Kubuntu
[06:56] <Minataku> flaccid: lol, np
[06:56] <lancelot_rw> stdin, is there another one?
[06:56] <Minataku> flaccid: BTW; friends don't let friends IRC drunk
[06:56] <Minataku> Give me your keyboard
[06:57] <stdin> lancelot_rw: there are a few...
[06:57] <solidsource> stdin: ok, give me sec, still waiting on a large program to finish installing
[06:57] <stdin> !messenger | lancelot_rw
[06:57] <ubotu> lancelot_rw: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:57] <flaccid> Minataku: since when. i thought it was kosha
[06:57] <stdin> lancelot_rw: just search adept for "messenger"
[06:57] <Minataku> flaccid: Last time a friend of mine was on IRC when he was drunk he was deopered for his behavior
[06:58] <dawn> beryl running nice on my Dell C521
[06:58] <flaccid> Minataku: i'm not that friend of yours, i'm a different person
[06:58] <lancelot_rw> stdin, i'll try it
[06:58] <dawn> nvidia card mind you
[06:58] <flaccid> and i'm not an op
[06:59] <Minataku> flaccid: Still, bad memories for me
[06:59] <Minataku> lol
[06:59] <flaccid> its just the internet
[06:59] <dawn> how can I have same desktop icons on all 4 desktops?
[06:59] <dawn> ?
[06:59] <Minataku> That's what they all say, next thing they know their monitor is wrapped around a tree
[06:59] <niles> why do i not get a picture while installing kubuntu from a live cd,  yet i can with knoppix ?
[06:59] <ernie> Minataku :)
[06:59] <flaccid> Minataku: hehe
[06:59] <Minataku> XD
[07:00] <flaccid> i'm not drink driving IRC
[07:00] <flaccid> thats a dif story...
[07:00] <flaccid> reminds me of crank yankers
[07:00] <flaccid> niles: picture?
[07:01] <niles> no
[07:01] <darweth> Does anyone know what the dev packages I need to compile mplayer with xv and alsa are again?
[07:01] <niles> it goes so far into the installtion then my monitor stays black
[07:01] <flaccid> playboy then?
[07:01] <flaccid> niles: try the alternate cd
[07:02] <niles> what alternate CD
[07:02] <flaccid> the one available for download
[07:02] <niles> i downloaded/burned from the kubuntu website
[07:02] <flaccid> that is where you get it
[07:02] <niles> it passes md5sum
[07:02] <Minataku> There are two install images
[07:02] <flaccid> !alternate
[07:02] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:02] <Minataku> Instead of the one you have, go get the other one instead
[07:02] <niles> oh ok.
[07:03] <niles> thanx guys
[07:03] <Minataku> np
[07:03] <flaccid> kubuntu installer/X has probs with some systems for some reason
[07:05] <jessej> okay i got kdevelop listed now, i had to click on "fetch updates" for it to show up
[07:05] <flaccid> ah yeah
[07:05] <flaccid> sorry jessej forgot to mention that
[07:06] <jessej> thanks for all the help anyways :)
[07:06] <flaccid> np
[07:06] <flaccid> kdevelop is nice
[07:06] <flaccid> well i just use kate
[07:07] <jessej> does kate do c++ syntax?
[07:07] <Minataku> Any self-respecting multi-language IDE with syntax highlighting does C++
[07:08] <lancelot_rw> OMG .. Kmess ... Kmess = Kmessed up !!
[07:08] <lancelot_rw> i'll use aMSN
[07:09] <ScottK> jessej: KATE will do C++ syntax hilighting.
[07:09] <jessej> i sure love kubuntu so far, a lot prettier than ubuntu and i have always liked KDE more than gnome in all my experimenting with linux
[07:09] <Minataku> I read source in Cooledit
[07:09] <Minataku> Which is a long-dead little editor
[07:09] <Minataku> At least I think it's kind of stangant, anyway
[07:10] <Minataku> I think I had to grab the source from Ibiblio and it was dated 2003 or 2004
[07:10] <Minataku> But yeah, GNOME == crap
[07:11] <ScottK> !language
[07:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:11] <flaccid> !crap
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <flaccid> hmm someone needs to add crap to ubotu
[07:12] <jessej> i'm trying out the translucency effects under window behavior, i hope KDE 4 improves on that to really compete with what vista and os x do graphically
[07:12] <CVirus> ubotu: hey .. watch your language
[07:12] <flaccid> me too
[07:12] <ernie> This KDevelop is pretty grand :)
[07:12] <Minataku> ScottK: "Crap" is not bad language
[07:12] <flaccid> ernie: except that you cant get stuff to open in same session externally
[07:13] <Minataku> I suggest you update your bad lanugage file... yours seems to be from 1807
[07:13] <flaccid> !define bad language
[07:13] <Minataku> Then again I don't think "crap" ever was considered bad language
[07:13] <ScottK> In my opinion it's marginal, but additionally it really isn't necessary to be negative about Gnome.  I don't much care for it either, but negativity really doesn't help.
[07:13] <jessej> the stuff i read about KDE 4 sounds like it's new interface is designed to compete with vista
[07:13] <solidsource> I have have no bad language file....its all good language
[07:13] <margis> hello all
[07:13] <margis> new  user  of   linux  here
[07:14] <margis> i   have  a  problem
[07:14] <ScottK> Hello margis
[07:14] <margis> i cant   download programms  with  adept
[07:14] <Minataku> ScottK: You need to ligthen up, I'd hate to see your ears burst into flame because you left the house or turned on a TV
[07:14] <margis> why?
[07:14] <flaccid> ScottK: actually negativity is very effective....
[07:14] <stdin> does your space key stick or something ?
[07:14] <flaccid> jessej: yes marketing bullshit exists in the open world too
[07:15] <Minataku> flaccid: Now that's on the edge
[07:15] <stdin> !language | flaccid
[07:15] <Minataku> lol
[07:15] <ubotu> flaccid: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:15] <flaccid> its in the dictionary
[07:15] <margis> kanenas  na botithisei?
[07:15] <flaccid> look it up
[07:15] <margis> can anyone help me?
[07:15] <juano__> can anyone help me with an itunes ipod?
[07:15] <flaccid> my family swears lots...
[07:15] <Minataku> margis: Is there an error?
[07:15] <jessej> yes eye candy is not needed but with so much more computing power might as well make use of the extra power while doing basic tasks
[07:15] <ScottK> margis: When you try to download, what error message do you get?
[07:15] <Minataku> flaccid: Mine too
[07:15] <margis> i need to  istall  firefox and ati drivers
[07:15] <stdin> !ipod
[07:15] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:15] <flaccid> its all too subjective
[07:15] <flaccid> which means i would win in court
[07:15] <margis> scotkk wait  to see it
[07:15] <Minataku> flaccid: They're not bad words unless you ascribe them the status of bad
[07:16] <Minataku> If nobody did that they wouldn't be "bad" words
[07:16] <juano__> !rockbox
[07:16] <Minataku> They'd be words
[07:16] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[07:16] <margis> i cant  open now  the  adept
[07:16] <flaccid> undefined things deserve arbitary responses.....
[07:16] <Minataku> Therefore, bad words do not actually exist
[07:16] <Minataku> Only words exist
[07:16] <margis> it says  that it  runs  already
[07:16] <margis> i  cant  see it
[07:16] <stdin> |aptfix
[07:16] <stdin> !aptfix
[07:16] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:16] <stdin> heh
[07:17] <flaccid> in reality there is no authority in the universe...
[07:17] <lancelot_rw> what is the command to see my kDE version ?
[07:17] <flaccid> except for the limitations of known science...
[07:17] <margis> ok wait to do this
[07:17] <stdin> lancelot_rw: kde-config --version
[07:17] <ScottK> margis: you can also just reboot the computer.
[07:17] <Minataku> Since opinion ascribes them the status of "bad", and opinion should be ignored in lieu of facts
[07:17] <dawn> so besides beryl what is there else that I can try?
[07:17] <Minataku> The fact is that they are just plain words
[07:17] <ScottK> It's not the 'best' way, but it may be the simplest if you're new to Linux
[07:17] <stdin> lancelot_rw: actually you can just put
[07:17] <Minataku> And therefore swearing is logically impossible
[07:17] <Minataku> :D
[07:17] <dawn> maybe I coulf go one step up in resolution
[07:17] <stdin> lancelot_rw: .. "--version" after any kde app
[07:18] <flaccid> the fact is that intelligience is a contradiction of terms when used in the context of human
[07:18] <manchicken> *cough*offtopic*cough*
[07:18] <flaccid> or perhaps an oxymoron
[07:18] <stdin> !offtopic | flaccid, Minataku
[07:18] <ubotu> flaccid, Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:18] <lancelot_rw> stdin, thanks.. i'll save this commands.. =)
[07:18] <jessej> i just got my new computer recently so i will be getting vista since it only costs me $10 shipping and handling and it will be the only way to play halo 2,  i have windows for gaming and kubuntu for experimenting
[07:18] <Minataku> ubotu needs a !shoveitinyourhat
[07:19] <dawn> how old is halo2?
[07:19] <makuseru> really
[07:19] <lancelot_rw> im searchin for KDE 3.5.2 thems for AMD64... anyone knows where to find? kdelook.org there're only 2 of them
[07:19] <jessej> from 2004 but this will be the pc version with higher res graphics
[07:19] <ScottK> And yet people wonder why there's no one here that knows how to answer their questions....
[07:19] <manchicken> lancelot_rw: Most of them come in either source form, or not-code form.
[07:20] <solidsource> anyone know if rockbox will still allow music to be transfered from other machines (windows or mac)?
[07:20] <margis> it says   waiting  for  headers
[07:20] <manchicken> lancelot_rw: I'd be surprised if you found too many that didn't work with amd64.
[07:20] <dawn> hmmm I have run steam - HL1 & 2 on kubuntu via wine
[07:20] <margis> why  i cant  connect to  download  from adept?
[07:20] <margis> what  happens?
[07:20] <lancelot_rw> manchicken, i try other ones..
[07:20] <Minataku> jessej: I recommend fighting for a refund on Vista
[07:20] <stdin> solidsource: yeah, it won't play DRMed files tho
[07:20] <dawn> lol
[07:20] <Minataku> Then spend the refund on XP if you really need Windows
[07:20] <kintaro0e> hello guys..how to recover password from kwallet..i forgot the password
[07:20] <manchicken> solidsource: I believe rockbox is compatible with most media players that'll work with standard non-DRM USB music devices.
[07:21] <jessej> then i won't be able to play halo 2 since ms is making it a vista only game and the cost of me getting vista is only $10
[07:21] <Minataku> jessej: Go buy a console for games
[07:21] <solidsource> don't use DRM, so I don't care about that
[07:21] <flaccid> !offtopic
[07:21] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:21] <Minataku> And tell Microsoft to piss off
[07:21] <dawn> i wrote a letter to Dell telling them that our company will not be using Vista
[07:21] <solidsource> I just want to be able to get my Toshiba Gigabeat to work with all computers
[07:21] <jessej> i have a wii as my console and my pc is for better graphics
[07:21] <kintaro0e> is there a way to recover it?
[07:21] <manchicken> solidsource: No, I'm saying the media program should support them if they support standard non-drm devices.
[07:21] <Minataku> dawn: Sweet. What company?
[07:21] <ScottK> margis: Only one program at a time can access the package database.  Currently you're package database is locked.
[07:21] <dawn> I showed the owner and CFO unbunto distros
[07:21] <margis> can any one speak to me   prive  and  lep me?
[07:22] <manchicken> solidsource: Like I don't think itunes would work with it, but I think WMP and WinAMP and the handful of Free Software media players would work.
[07:22] <dawn> small company
[07:22] <jessej> xbox 360 and ps3 overheat so wii is the only console that works for me so i need PC for other games
[07:22] <dawn> <50 ppl
[07:22] <Minataku> dawn: I must know what company, it's one I'd enjoy doing business with
[07:22] <margis> scottk  why?
[07:22] <margis> what i must  do?
[07:22] <ScottK> margis: You can clear the lock using the command you were given a few minutes ago, or just reboot the computer and it should be fine.
[07:22] <dawn> we service data centers
[07:22] <Minataku> jessej: XBox 360 only overheats if you put it in a stupid place
[07:22] <flaccid> !offtopic
[07:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:22] <margis> i rebooted   10 times and  the same thing
[07:22] <jessej> i had a launch day system that was well ventilated and burned out on me
[07:22] <dawn> om going to offtopic
[07:23] <margis> i cand   get programms  with adept
[07:23] <ScottK> margis: OK.  Let's give up on that idea.
[07:23] <Minataku> jessej: That's what support is for
[07:23] <manchicken> margis: What's the problem?
[07:23] <Minataku> margis: We helped you with this
[07:23] <jessej> pcs don't have these kind of heating problems
[07:23] <solidsource> manchicken: ok, but rockbox is on the MP3 player, just wondering if I will be able to transfer songs from any operating system with simple drag and drop
[07:23] <Minataku> !aptfix | margis
[07:23] <ubotu> margis: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:23] <margis> i cant   fetch  updates  on  adept
[07:23] <manchicken> solidsource: I would think so.
[07:23] <stdin> solidsource: yeah, you can, it just acts as a USB hard drive
[07:23] <ScottK> margis: Do you know how to open a command line window using Konsole?
[07:23] <Minataku> jessej: Sure they do. All it takes for a PC is for one fan to fail and BAM
[07:24] <Minataku> Out of service
[07:24] <margis> yes i know
[07:24] <solidsource> manchicken / stdin: ok, well guess its worth a shot
[07:24] <margis> i  done  it
[07:24] <margis> now?
[07:24] <ScottK> OK.  Do that
[07:24] <ScottK> Yes
[07:24] <margis> Kill process 4969 ? (y/N) y
[07:24] <jessej> but at least the are more open inside and the fans are far better than the ones i seen on the xbox 360 and i assume is better than what sony calls an efficient cooling system in ps3
[07:24] <margis> i  pressed  y
[07:24] <stdin> solidsource: then you can convert your media to ogg :)
[07:25] <ScottK> OK
[07:25] <margis> now?
[07:25] <Minataku> jessej: The PS3 is total garbage
[07:25] <ScottK> Now try this...
[07:25] <solidsource> stdin: don't use ogg, just MP3
[07:25] <manchicken> !offtopic | jessej, Minataku
[07:25] <ubotu> jessej, Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:25] <ScottK> sudo apt-get update
[07:25] <stdin> solidsource: don't use mp3, just ogg
[07:25] <margis> ok wait
[07:25] <Minataku> Stores that couldn't keep them in stock last month can't get rid of them this month
[07:25] <jessej> sorry
[07:25] <solidsource> stdin: ogg would come in conflict with my other stuff
[07:25] <stdin> solidsource: why?
[07:26] <Minataku> Agreed, sorry
[07:26] <Minataku> Personally I'm fine with unprotected MP3
[07:26] <manchicken> solidsource: If you're running rockbox, I would think flac would be your best choice.
[07:26] <margis> 0% [  archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [  security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [  medibuntu.sos-sts.com]  [ 
[07:26] <margis>  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release.gpg
[07:26] <margis>        'medibuntu.sos-sts.com'
[07:26] <Minataku> margis: Oooh, fancy
[07:26] <Minataku> You Greek?
[07:26] <margis> yes
[07:26] <manchicken> margis: You're going to have to translate that for us.
[07:26] <Minataku> Cool
[07:27] <margis> error
[07:27] <ScottK> margis: What's the error?
[07:27] <Minataku> I'm part Greek myself, but that's getting offtopic again
[07:27] <margis> temporary fail to find  the  medibuntu
[07:27] <stdin> solidsource: I found that you can get a higher quality at a lower bitrate with ogg/vorbis and so smaller file sizes
[07:27] <Minataku> I'd guess his system is having network issues
[07:27] <solidsource> I use MP3 because my friends use windows and also my stereo can't read OGG files, only MP3/WMA
[07:27] <Minataku> Look at the IP
[07:27] <Minataku> 1.0.0.0 is NOT valid
[07:27] <margis> it is  1.0.0.0
[07:27] <margis> why?
[07:27] <stdin> looks like a DNS error
[07:27] <margis> how i change this?
[07:27] <jessej> i best be going now, happy kubuntu using
[07:28] <manchicken> margis: Where'd you get that source from?
[07:28] <Minataku> I'm not versed in DNS, sorry
[07:28] <ScottK> margis: Are you connected now on your Kubuntu machine?
[07:28] <manchicken> margis: In your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:28] <margis> and  what  i must do now?
[07:28] <Minataku> I just know well enough that 1.0.0.0 is garbage
[07:28] <margis> i  have corect  sources
[07:28] <margis> i am sure
[07:29] <manchicken> margis: Either your source is incorrect or you're having network difficulties.
[07:29] <stdin> try restarting the network, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:29] <margis> when i searchfor  programs     i  find  them
[07:29] <manchicken> Later.
[07:29] <margis> but  i cant  download
[07:29] <ScottK> margis: Something is obviously wrong and so checking your sources is a good next step
[07:29] <margis> i can  update  wallpapers  themes etc
[07:29] <margis> but  no programms
[07:29] <ScottK> Open the file /etc/apt/sources.list and copy it to pastebin so we can check it.
[07:29] <Minataku> margis: You're definitely having a network issue, I think, if not that, something is screwed somewhere
[07:29] <ScottK> !pastebin
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <margis> can i  paste them here?\
[07:30] <margis> or  get baned?
[07:30] <Minataku> NO. Put them in a pastebin
[07:30] <Minataku> Then give us that link
[07:30] <ScottK> No.  Long multiline pastes can flood the channel and lock itup.
[07:30] <solidsource> manchicken stdin: I use MP3 because my friends use windows and also my stereo can't read OGG files, only MP3/WMA...make sense?
[07:30] <margis> ok tell me  what  to do
[07:30] <Minataku> Not lock it up, just load it with crap
[07:30] <Minataku> !pastebin | margis
[07:30] <ubotu> margis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <manchicken> solidsource: That's cool.  I use mp3 myself for similar reasons.  mp3 is more friendly for sharing.
[07:31] <Minataku> manchicken: Agreed
[07:31] <Minataku> As long as it's unprotected
[07:31] <manchicken> And sharing is good ^_^
[07:31] <manchicken> And I am sleepy ^_^
[07:31] <Minataku> All my phone recordings are MP3
[07:31] <manchicken> So good night all you happy people.
[07:31] <Minataku> Night, manchicken
[07:31] <solidsource> manchicken: yep, its just been used for so long and became standard, its hard to switch formats
[07:32] <margis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5175/
[07:32] <margis> ok?
[07:32] <stdin> solidsource: yeah, at least you have a good reason to use mp3, and don't just blindly use it because "that's what everyone else uses"
[07:32] <Minataku> I'm also not an audiophile, so MP3 is good enough for me
[07:32] <margis> ?????\
[07:32] <Minataku> margis: Please stand by
[07:32] <solidsource> aahhh crappy ...the rockbox site won't let me get to the download page
[07:33] <Minataku> We're assessing your issue at this very moment
[07:33] <ScottK> margis: You have some non-standard entries in there.
[07:33] <margis> ok
[07:33] <margis> give me   link with text to paste it inside
[07:33] <margis> ok?
[07:33] <ScottK> margis: I'm going to edit that pastebin and give you a new URL to look at in a minute
[07:33] <margis> ok
[07:33] <margis> i wait...thank u
[07:33] <Minataku> I, on the other hand, am going to go to the bathroom
[07:35] <margis> ......
[07:35] <ScottK> margis: Look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5176/ - You'll see I commented out the non-standard ones by adding a '#' to the start of the line.
[07:35] <dawn> !offtopic
[07:35] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:35] <stdin> solidsource: hmm, the download site seems to be down, check back in a few hours
[07:36] <ScottK> margis: The PLF repositories you have listed do not, I don't think, exist anymore.  That may be at least part of your problem.
[07:36] <solidsource> stdin: going to try the windows installer since I still have to use linux on my laptop
[07:36] <solidsource> stdin: I mean windows
[07:37] <margis> ok...now i try from adept
[07:37] <margis> or  from  console?
[07:37] <ScottK> It's safer to try from the console
[07:37] <margis> i cant  open apt
[07:37] <margis> ok...tell me  what  to   type
[07:37] <Minataku> Back
[07:37] <ScottK> Did you edit the file yet?
[07:37] <margis> for  firefox   for example
[07:38] <margis> yes i have done
[07:38] <ScottK> First, sudo apt-get update.
[07:38] <ScottK> (no period on the end)
[07:38] <margis> margis@margis-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update
[07:38] <margis> E:    /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:38] <margis> E:     
[07:38] <margis> margis@margis-laptop:~$
[07:38] <lancelot_rw> what should i do ?
[07:38] <lancelot_rw> checking for gcc... gcc
[07:38] <lancelot_rw> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:38] <stdin> !b-e
[07:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:39] <margis> it  says  unable to lock /var/lib ........
[07:39] <margis> so now?
[07:39] <stdin> lancelot_rw: basically you need the "build-essential" package
[07:39] <ScottK> margis: Did you have 'sudo' as part of your command?
[07:39] <margis> yes
[07:39] <stdin> margis: close adept first
[07:39] <margis> ok
[07:39] <margis> it is closed
[07:39] <margis> already
[07:39] <ScottK> Try this one then...
[07:39] <margis> i cant  see it  anywhere
[07:40] <ScottK> margis: ps -AF|grep adept
[07:40] <ScottK> Put the output of that into pastebin
[07:41] <margis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5177/
[07:41] <margis> see there
[07:41] <margis> it is ok?\
[07:42] <ScottK> we'll get there
[07:42] <ScottK> Now try this
[07:42] <ScottK> sudo kill 5215
[07:42] <margis> ok
[07:42] <margis> ok
[07:42] <margis> done
[07:43] <lancelot_rw> im trying to install a theme for kde...
[07:43] <ScottK> Do the ps -AF|grep adept again.  It should look like this
[07:43] <lancelot_rw> ./configure..
[07:43] <ScottK> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5178/
[07:43] <lancelot_rw> bla bla bla..
[07:43] <lancelot_rw> but..
[07:43] <lancelot_rw> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:43] <lancelot_rw> ?
[07:43] <stdin> !xincludes | lancelot_rw
[07:43] <ubotu> lancelot_rw: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[07:44] <ScottK> margis: Assuming that's what you have, try sudo apt-get update again
[07:44] <margis> ok
[07:45] <ScottK> Let us know how that goes
[07:45] <margis> wait
[07:45] <stdin> lancelot_rw: and you may want to grab "kde-devel" if you are compiling KDE stuff, you'll probably need it
[07:46] <lancelot_rw> stdin, ok, ill grab that..
[07:46] <solidsource> at which point do you kill your ISP for being so horrable?
[07:46] <fakepatriot> ! mp3
[07:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <margis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5179/
[07:46] <solidsource> *yes off the wall quest*
[07:46] <margis> look skottk
[07:47] <cpk1> if I remove the "kde" package kde would still start right?
[07:47] <LeeJunFan_> anyone know of a good video editor for mpeg? Basically just simple stuff, I want to cut and splice some clips from mpegs to make a new movie. Kind of like these: http://www.webtvhub.com/president-george-bush-sings-sunday-bloody-sunday-endless-love-tony-blair-duet-and-more/
[07:47] <stdin> margis: try "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[07:47] <Linux_Galore> cpk1: thats a meta package, it will remove all your kde stuff
[07:48] <SpAwN> LeeJunFan_, i find cinelerra  a nice video editor
[07:48] <stdin> cpk1: "kde" is just a meta package, iy's safe to remove it, as long as you don't do a "apt-get autoremove"
[07:48] <margis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5180/
[07:48] <margis> ok now?
[07:48] <cpk1> well I am removing it because adept did something wrong and made aptitude freak out
[07:48] <ScottK> looking
[07:48] <LeeJunFan_> SpAwN: thanks, figures it's not in repos.
[07:49] <Linux_Galore> stdin: last time i tried remove the kde meta package it wanted to remove everything
[07:49] <stdin> LeeJunFan_: try avidemux
[07:49] <cpk1> I have a feeling I am going to end up doing an overnight download after the destruction aptitude install does here
[07:49] <LeeJunFan_> stdin: yeah, I'm playing with that at the moment, having problems setting the marks correctly with that.
[07:49] <ScottK> margis: What happens now if you sudo apt-get update?
[07:49] <SpAwN> LeeJunFan_, and yea those videos are realy cool... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXoqHigJ8DQ is another realy cool video...such a simple idea...but musta taken some work
[07:50] <stdin> Linux_Galore, LeeJunFan_: it will say that the packages are no longer required, but shouldn't remove them unless you do an "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[07:50] <Linux_Galore> cpk1: did you run kdesu dpkg --configure -a
[07:50] <SpAwN> LeeJunFan_, i do belive there is a seperate repos that has the newest one. im sure a google of cinelerra ubuntu will retunr some info
[07:50] <margis> i cant   catch it
[07:50] <cpk1> Linux_Galore: no but i did sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:51] <LeeJunFan_> SpAwN: hehe, that is a cool fid.
[07:51] <LeeJunFan_> vid
[07:51] <margis> i cant  paste the  text..wait to  retry
[07:51] <Linux_Galore> cpk1: same thing really
[07:51] <cpk1> but yeah it didnt do anything
[07:51] <margis> root@margis-laptop:/home/margis# sudo apt-get update
[07:51] <margis> 0% [  archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [  security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [  archive.canonical.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[07:51] <margis> this one!!!!
[07:51] <margis> again the same
[07:51] <stdin> like I said, DNS issue
[07:51] <ScottK> Yep.
[07:51] <margis> wrong ip i think
[07:51] <margis> dns?
[07:51] <margis> how  i correct it?
[07:52] <stdin> check to make sure the dns servers are in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:52] <SpAwN> LeeJunFan_, yea i was impressed when i 1st saw it :-)
[07:52] <margis> wait
[07:52] <stdin> if not, try restarting the network
[07:52] <margis> open with kate?
[07:52] <ernie> stdin - avidemux - comes up as a break-install in kubuntu 6.10 - or have I got things screwed up :)
[07:52] <ScottK> You can open it with Kate, but not change it.
[07:52] <stdin> margis: just use " cat /etc/resolv.conf " in konsole
[07:53] <margis> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:53] <margis> thats all
[07:53] <margis> it shows  this
[07:53] <margis> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:53] <Linux_Galore> ernie: do you have beryl setup
[07:53] <margis> i use a router
[07:53] <ScottK> margis: Then I'd try restarting networking on your machine.
[07:53] <margis> wait
[07:53] <ernie> Linux_Galore - umm nope - which suggests that I should have :)
[07:54] <margis> i will reconect here
[07:54] <stdin> ernie: hmm, try "apt-get install avidemux" in konsole and paste the error in pastebin
[07:54] <stdin> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:54] <ScottK> stdin: If you want to jump in and help out, I need to go to be VERY soon.  It's near 2AM here.
[07:54] <Linux_Galore> ernie: the reason i ask is every time I fix a breakage problem its a sources list related problem  ie optional package repo with conflicting packages
[07:55] <stdin> ScottK: I suspect it's a router problem, but I'm no expert in DNS, I'll give it a go tho :P
[07:55] <makuseru> can someone help me, im trying to install kubuntu on an iMac, i can boot from a knoppix dvd holding "c" but i cant boot from the kubuntu cd, is there anything i need to do speecial? change anything in the bios ot anything
[07:55] <stdin> makuseru: did you get the right CD image ?
[07:55] <Linux_Galore> ernie: heres the quirk, I nver het breakage but  Im totally anal when it comes to my package managers sources list
[07:56] <Linux_Galore> never get*
[07:56] <makuseru> stdin: kubuntu ppc
[07:56] <stdin> makuseru: hmm, all I can sudjest is you get the alternate cd image
[07:56] <Minataku> Heehee, OpenFirmware is cool, too bad the first consumer machines to use them had to be Apples
[07:56] <makuseru> tried both
[07:57] <ernie> Linux_galore : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5182/
[07:57] <ScottK> makuseru: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[07:58] <TheftOfLife> Does kubuntu work with the JMicron controller on the Asus P5B* line of motherboards?
[07:58] <ernie> Linux_galore : since coming from windows to Kubuntu - I have been playing quite a bit :)
[07:58] <Linux_Galore> ernie: thats a typical package breakage, usually you have to track it down to one package (or a related group) and downgrade them to a stable version
[07:59] <ScottK> margis_: It's almost 2am where I am and I need to get to bed.  stdin said he'd take over helping you out.
[07:59] <makuseru> ScottK: its an imac not macbook
[07:59] <TheftOfLife> nevermind, i am about to find out
[07:59] <ernie> Linux_Galore - thanks - I thought as much :)
[07:59] <Linux_Galore> ernie: yeah, you have mixed and matched sources and broken your dependency setup
[07:59] <ernie> Linux_Galore: Had to happen :)
[08:00] <ScottK> makuseru: OK how about https://wiki.kubuntu.org/iMacG5revC
[08:00] <Linux_Galore> ernie: I did it once with beryl, never again took me 3 hours to track the package down and downgrade it
[08:00] <lancelot_rw> how do I install a kde theme using the file **.kth ? just click on it ?
[08:00] <stdin> !changethemes
[08:00] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[08:01] <TheftOfLife> Ack, ubuntu doesn't work with my Attansic NIC
[08:01] <ernie> Linux_Galore: Well I've given this a really good thrashing and its hung together pretty well :) Too many toys to check out :)
[08:02] <Linux_Galore> ernie: you can have the toys,  just add all the sources that match your version but keep them ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:02] <stdin> ernie: what does "apt-cache policy avidemux" show ?
[08:02] <Linux_Galore> ernie: should see my list its pretty big
[08:02] <fakepatriot> !repos
[08:02] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:03] <fakepatriot> what is the directory to repos?
[08:03] <stdin> fakepatriot: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <fakepatriot> thanks
[08:04] <stdin> :)
[08:04] <stdin> np
[08:05] <stdin> ernie: done that yet ?
[08:06] <Linux_Galore> heres my all you need kubuntu Edgy sources.list  file -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5183/
[08:07] <Linux_Galore> that will give you all the toys you will need
[08:07] <stdin> edgy-proposed isn't a reccommended repo for the average user tho
[08:07] <fakepatriot> what is the name of that program like easyubuntu (works the same way) and does easyubuntu have pkgs for kubuntu?
[08:08] <Linux_Galore> stdin: thats a kitchen sink version though and there are some good things hiding in proposed
[08:08] <stdin> fakepatriot: it's automatix, but it's dangerous, not reccommended and not supported
[08:08] <Linux_Galore> fakepatriot: you mean the other one that also breaks your system
[08:08] <cpk1> fakepatriot: you mean automatix? and you shouldnt need or use that really =)
[08:08] <fakepatriot> lol yeah that one
[08:09] <stdin> Linux_Galore: yeah, bit they aren't well tested, and *can* break things
[08:09] <fakepatriot> its been a few months since i used kubuntu so i forget a few things
[08:09] <fakepatriot> how about easyubuntu? any better?
[08:09] <ernie> stdin - sorry just got back - had to do my duties :)
[08:09] <stdin> fakepatriot: it not a good idea to use either
[08:09] <cpk1> fakepatriot: ?? just use easysource to add the repos you need
[08:09] <Linux_Galore> stdin: I dont use much from proposed
[08:09] <cpk1> and use the wiki for mp3/wmv support
[08:09] <fakepatriot> thanks guys
[08:10] <stdin> !easysource
[08:10] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:11] <cpk1> fakepatriot: is there anything in particular that you thought you would need automatix for?
[08:13] <aarohi> i'm having some trouble playing mp3's... amarok doesn't actually play them... skips by everything in the playlist. how do i check if the mp3 codec's installed?
[08:13] <margis> hello again
[08:13] <Linux_Galore> dont use this repo deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ edgy main-edgy   it breaks your system
[08:13] <margis> i had  connection problem
[08:13] <fakepatriot> not necesarily, i havent used kubuntu in a few months so i remember all the hassle i went through getting java to work in the past. I am limited on time so wanted to make it easy, but never used either automatix or easyubuntu so lol
[08:14] <margis> skottk   tell me what to do...
[08:14] <cpk1> fakepatriot: you using 32bit arch?
[08:14] <fakepatriot> no 64
[08:14] <stdin> aarohi: follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[08:15] <margis> i want  to fix  adept
[08:15] <margis> help...
[08:15] <cpk1> fakepatriot: then java might be a little more troublesome but if you follow the ubuntu guid you shouldnt have a problem
[08:15] <cpk1> margis: whats wrong with it?
[08:15] <stdin> margis: what dose "LANG=C sudo apt-get upgrade" show now?
[08:15] <aarohi> okay, thank you stdin
[08:16] <cavallo> hi
[08:16] <makuseru> does anyone dual boot on a mac? or just linux on a mac? and can help me with the install
[08:17] <cavallo> I have some problems with nvidia drivers. Can somebody tell me which drivers are the latest good drivers ? I have installed some drivers but yesterday I have run apt-get upgrade and all stopted to work :/
[08:17] <cavallo> what should I do ?
[08:17] <margis> margis@margis-laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:17] <margis> Password:
[08:17] <margis> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:17] <margis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:17] <margis> margis@margis-laptop:~$
[08:17] <margis> sorry for the flood
[08:17] <makuseru> !pastebin | margis
[08:17] <ubotu> margis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <fakepatriot> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5184/ <-- Any ideas? Just used the easysource to get repos
[08:18] <fakepatriot> got that when i tried to sudo apt-get update
[08:18] <margis> margis@margis-laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:18] <margis> Password:
[08:18] <margis> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:18] <margis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:18] <margis> margis@margis-laptop:~$
[08:18] <margis> sorry
[08:18] <solidsource> cavallo: you probably need to re-install your video driver
[08:18] <makuseru> !pastebin | margis_
[08:18] <ubotu> margis_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:19] <stdin> margis: hmm, ok do this: "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock" pres Y then do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:19] <margis> i  cant  open  the  paste bin
[08:19] <makuseru> well dont flood the room
[08:19] <makuseru> go to #flood
[08:19] <margis> sorry
[08:19] <cpk1> fakepatriot: did easysource give a gpg key for that repo?
[08:19] <fakepatriot> where would it have given it to me
[08:19] <margis> ok
[08:19] <margis> now?
[08:20] <margis> what?
[08:20] <cavallo> solidsource: I have installed throught this steps: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beta_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[08:20] <cavallo> does that mean that if kernel is upgraded that I must also reinstall this drivers ?
[08:20] <cpk1> fakepatriot: in the text file it gives you
[08:20] <stdin> fakepatriot: try "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 2EBC26B60C5A2783" then "gpg --export -a 0C5A2783 | sudo apt-key add -"
[08:20] <margis> for me?
[08:21] <cavallo> lol
[08:21] <stdin> margis: I said to do this: "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock" pres Y then do "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:21] <cavallo> margis: some other application is using apt-get ....
[08:22] <fakepatriot> stdin: no valid openpgp data found
[08:22] <margis> i did man
[08:22] <solidsource> cavallo: just use adept and search for nvidia
[08:22] <margis> i need  my old  repositories....
[08:23] <margis> those i have now   dnt  work
[08:23] <cpk1> fakepatriot: some dont have a key and will just be an untrusted source ( you have to explicitly tell apt to install from that source whenever you do)
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> only thing I dont like about the easysources tool is it uses the au mirrors for australia, trust me they suck the big one
[08:23] <fakepatriot> cpk1: ah i see
[08:23] <solidsource> cavallo: if you need a repo for nvidia, the one I am using is "deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable-9631" and it works well
[08:23] <fakepatriot> cpk1: and how do i do that
[08:23] <cpk1> it will ask you
[08:23] <margis> :(
[08:24] <fakepatriot> in my sources.lst i have a GPG key like you said cpk1
[08:24] <cpk1> fakepatriot: i know because I just checked easy source for mediabuntu
[08:24] <fakepatriot> so do i need to apply it or something?
[08:24] <margis> i quit
[08:24] <stdin> fakepatriot: do this then "wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/350142 -O- |sudo apt-key add -"
[08:25] <cpk1> fakepatriot: yes, lol the text file they give you tells you how to use the keys
[08:25] <margis> i cant  continue with  kubuntu  anymore
[08:25] <fakepatriot> oh crud, lol didnt even look
[08:25] <makuseru> margis: whats your problem
[08:25] <cavallo> solidsource: ok. Will try it :) I hope it works well :)
[08:25] <margis> i  cant   fetch  updates from adept
[08:26] <makuseru> what error do you get
[08:26] <margis> no error
[08:26] <margis> just  nothing
[08:26] <makuseru> does it not open?
[08:26] <margis> wait to check again
[08:26] <fakepatriot> cpk1: stdin: k thanks it works now
[08:26] <makuseru> cause sometimes it wont open, but you click it again and it will
[08:26] <mgannon> hello
[08:27] <margis> now i cant  open  adep
[08:27] <stdin> fakepatriot: no problem :)
[08:27] <margis> adept
[08:27] <makuseru> margis: just do it in a terminal
[08:27] <margis> ok.wai
[08:27] <margis> t
[08:27] <Linux_Galore> I was reading the dev notes for the new version of adept, lots of fixes  ie installing java now works and the text terminal open for you to agree to the license terms
[08:28] <solidsource> cavallo: if that fails, go to nvidia's website and download the driver there, though you will need the kernel packages to go with it
[08:28] <Linux_Galore> opens*
[08:28] <margis> apt-get  i type?
[08:28] <makuseru> margis: in a term, "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:28] <makuseru> i dont use adept at all for updates, thats how i do all mine
[08:28] <cavallo> solidsource: I have already do that. And everything goes well on installation but when I reboot everything fails :/
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> the new version of adept seriously need to be back ported to edgy/dapper
[08:29] <makuseru> adept for feisty?
[08:29] <solidsource> cavallo: yeah, thats why I use adept and that repo
[08:30] <cavallo> solidsource: will try it now :) go to reboot my comp... :) brb
[08:30] <Linux_Galore> makuseru: there are some nasty UI bugs in adept and the new release they have just done fixes a hell of allot of them
[08:30] <makuseru> i havent used adept in ages cause its a hassle
[08:30] <margis>  I CANT open  this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:30] <farid> anybody know how to upgrade KDE to 3.5.6 ?
[08:30] <margis> can u?
[08:31] <makuseru> margis: everyone but you can
[08:31] <solidsource> yes, just need the repo for it
[08:31] <makuseru> just open your browser then go to it
[08:31] <margis> i   cant open it
[08:31] <margis> i know
[08:31] <margis> i done it  before
[08:31] <stdin> farid: instructions here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[08:31] <margis> many times
[08:31] <farid> thank you friend
[08:31] <Linux_Galore> margis: works fine for me
[08:31] <margis> An error occurred while loading http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/:
[08:31] <margis> Timeout on server
[08:31] <margis>  Connection was to paste.ubuntu-nl.org at port 80
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> margis: might be the isp
[08:32] <solidsource> kde 3.5.6 repo =
[08:32] <solidsource> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[08:32] <solidsource> deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[08:32] <makuseru> margis: use a diffrent pastebin, theres a million of them
[08:32] <margis> i  cant do  anything
[08:32] <margis> give me  another
[08:33] <cavallo> where I can see which drivers my gcard is using ? modinfo ?
[08:33] <margis> i use  kubuntu  for  8 hours  only,..
[08:33] <fakepatriot> are there any beryl packages in the repos?
[08:33] <fakepatriot> is beryl even working under kubuntu yet
[08:33] <makuseru> yes
[08:33] <makuseru> aiglx is included in edgy
[08:33] <stdin> fakepatriot: no, but there is a beryl repo for ubuntu
[08:34] <margis> ?
[08:34] <fakepatriot> nice
[08:34] <makuseru> margis: just google pastebin
[08:34] <margis> ok
[08:34] <margis> wait
[08:34] <fakepatriot> i remember having to hack up every file ever to get XGL to work under dapper flight releases lol
[08:34] <makuseru> eww
[08:34] <makuseru> xgl
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> margis: http://dpaste.com/
[08:34] <makuseru> aiglx is super easy
[08:34] <makuseru> fakepatriot: want the link to the site for ir?
[08:34] <makuseru> it*
[08:35] <fakepatriot> makuseru: yes plz
[08:35] <fakepatriot> is it working under 64 bit arch?
[08:35] <margis> http://dpaste.com/5569/
[08:35] <makuseru> i believe so
[08:35] <margis> look
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> last i heard installing aixgl in feisty will be a simple command of  apt-get install desktop-effects
[08:35] <makuseru> dont command people margis, be polite
[08:36] <makuseru> wow
[08:36] <stdin> margis: that means you are already up to date
[08:36] <stdin> !info desktop-effects feisty
[08:36] <margis> lol
[08:36] <ubotu> desktop-effects: preferences applet for configuring desktop effects. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 540 kB
[08:37] <makuseru> cool
[08:37] <margis> look guys..i  just istalled the  kubuntu...if  i cant  install any programm i cant  use it.....
[08:37] <makuseru> fakepatriot: for enabling aiglx https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy and to install beryl http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/SVN
[08:37] <margis> i need  help
[08:38] <makuseru> margis: dont beg
[08:38] <underdog5004> margis, what can I help you with?
[08:38] <makuseru> !ubuntu-ru | margis
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-ru - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> margis: all greek to me
[08:38] <underdog5004> !ru | margis
[08:38] <makuseru> no ubunru russian?
[08:38] <ubotu> margis:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:38] <makuseru> ij
[08:38] <makuseru> ok*
[08:39] <stdin> !gr
[08:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:39] <margis>  * underdog5004 is ignoring anything that margis says...
[08:39] <makuseru> stdin: haha
[08:39] <underdog5004> * underdog5004 starts listening to margis
[08:39] <underdog5004> margis, what can I help you with?
[08:39] <makuseru> margis: how about you tell us what it says in english
[08:40] <stdin> LANG=C sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:40] <makuseru> i told him sudo, but i didnt see it in there
[08:40] <margis> tell me  the  command  exactly  with the   lang c   in front
[08:40] <makuseru> so it could be a permission thing
[08:40] <makuseru> stdin: what is lang=c
[08:41] <margis> http://dpaste.com/5570/
[08:41] <stdin> LANG=C make the app use the default language (english) for it's output
[08:41] <stdin> rather than the locally configured language
[08:41] <makuseru> oh ok
[08:41] <makuseru> neat
[08:41] <margis> i need  to istall   firefox  and  ati drivers  first...
[08:41] <cavallo> http://dpaste.com/5571/
[08:41] <cavallo> what should I do ?
[08:42] <margis> ?
[08:42] <stdin> margis: that means there are no updates available, and you already are fully updated
[08:42] <margis> i am not man
[08:42] <underdog5004> margis, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[08:43] <margis> ok  wait  to try
[08:43] <makuseru> wow, hes been complaing about that
[08:43] <cavallo> :)
[08:43] <Linux_Galore> cavallo: need some details,  what graphics card
[08:43] <solidsource> cavallo: what exactly did you install inside of adept?
[08:43] <underdog5004> if you want it in russian, do this: sudo apt-get install * underdog5004 starts listening to margis
[08:43] <underdog5004> if you want it in russian, do this: sudo apt-get install
[08:43] <underdog5004> lol, sorry about that
[08:43] <fakepatriot> makuseru: do i have to be under edgy to use it or can i use dapper?
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> cavallo: ie what model
[08:44] <makuseru> theres tutorials for dapper too
[08:44] <makuseru> but its a little harder
[08:44] <stdin> cavallo: you need to add "Load "glx" " to the "Section "Module" " section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:44] <yonis> why there is no op around ?
[08:44] <cavallo> Linux_Galore: ASUS NVIDIA GEFORCE 7900GS, 256MB DDR3, PCI-E, 2 x DVI, HDTV
[08:44] <fakepatriot> how do i dist upgrade through adept?
[08:44] <stdin> yonis: they are hiding :)
[08:44] <margis> http://dpaste.com/5572/    LOK IT
[08:44] <margis> look it
[08:44] <cpk1> i dont trust adept anymore
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> cavallo: ok and you have installed the nvidia drivers and nvidia-glx packages ?
[08:45] <cavallo> stdin: I have this
[08:45] <cavallo> Linux_Galore: yes
[08:45] <stdin> yonis: if you *really need* an opp, use "!ops"
[08:45] <cpk1> !mozilla-firefox
[08:45] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 54 kB, installed size 112 kB
[08:45] <yonis> !ops
[08:45] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[08:45] <makuseru> margis, dont be rude
[08:45] <fakepatriot> cpk1: lol i wanted to do it via terminal, but the wiki suggested otherwise and i have never tried doing it through adept
[08:45] <cpk1> margis: you probably need universe
[08:45] <margis> what is  universe?
[08:45] <yonis> stdin: nothing happen ?
[08:45] <cpk1> fakepatriot: i think full upgrade button
[08:45] <margis> where i do this?
[08:46] <cpk1> !repos | margis
[08:46] <ubotu> margis: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:46] <fakepatriot> cpk1: its greyed out :(
[08:46] <stdin> yonis: look at the message posted by ubotu, it called the ops for you
[08:46] <solidsource> cavallo: it must not have activated the driver, must change the "nv" to "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> cavallo: ok,  I would run kdesu dpkg-configure xserver-xorg  that should allows you to fix it
[08:46] <underdog5004> margis, ok, you need to edit your sources.list
[08:46] <margis>   i  open   adept  and  manage repositories?
[08:46] <solidsource> that would work too
[08:46] <margis> sources list?
[08:46] <margis> give  me  another....\
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> cavallo: its a script that helps you create a new xorg.conf  file
[08:46] <stdin> Linux_Galore: why use kdesu in a term?
[08:47] <cpk1> fakepatriot: then i guess you have nothing to upgrade then, might want to do click fetch updates too though
[08:47] <underdog5004> yep, it's a file that tells kubuntu where to go for updates...
[08:47] <margis> yes.
[08:47] <underdog5004> do this: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <margis> i need the text to pasteinside
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> stdin: because everyone gets on my back when  use sudo
[08:47] <stdin> underdog5004: not sudo
[08:47] <cpk1> use kdesu kate
[08:47] <underdog5004> kdesu
[08:47] <underdog5004> my bad
[08:47] <fakepatriot> cpk1: doesn't do anything, i checked lsb_release still says dapper, should i restart?
[08:47] <fakepatriot> i still have dapper repos
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> I use*
[08:47] <cpk1> fakepatriot: are you trying to upgrade to edgy?
[08:47] <margis> i need text to  paste in the  sousrces
[08:47] <margis> give me
[08:47] <fakepatriot> cpk1: yeah
[08:48] <underdog5004> margis, is your sources.list file empty?
[08:48] <cpk1> fakepatriot: if you are upgrading to edgy you might want to check !upgrade and you will need to change every repo to edgy
[08:48] <stdin> !upgrade
[08:48] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:49] <margis> http://dpaste.com/5573/
[08:49] <margis> they are like this
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> margis:   sudo cat  /etc/apt/sources.list  .
[08:49] <cavallo> Linux_Galore: do I turn on kernel framebuffer device ?
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> margis: then put it in pastbin
[08:50] <margis> i puted man
[08:50] <underdog5004> margis, I'm gonna give you mine
[08:50] <underdog5004> h/o
[08:50] <margis> http://dpaste.com/5573/
[08:50] <margis> ok
[08:50] <margis> i wait
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> cavallo: yes  make sure glx and v4l is also turned on
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> cavallo: when you see it
[08:50] <stdin> Linux_Galore: no need for sudo with cat
[08:51] <underdog5004> margis, ok, this is mine: http://dpaste.com/5574/     but you need to change the "us" to your local mirror, probably "ru"
[08:51] <margis> ru?
[08:51] <margis> what is ru?
[08:51] <underdog5004> russian
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> stdin: actually  was thinking to cp  the file over  then changed my mind then forgot to remove the sudo
[08:51] <underdog5004> you _are_ russian, right?
[08:51] <margis> i am greek
[08:51] <cpk1> hence the .gr hostname lol
[08:51] <underdog5004> whoops, sorry
[08:51] <stdin> Linux_Galore: ahh :)
[08:51] <underdog5004> lol
[08:51] <underdog5004> ok, so replace "us" with "gr"
[08:52] <margis> idont  find us
[08:52] <margis> in which line u mean?
[08:52] <margis> is  there  any reason to change it
[08:52] <lancelot_rw> damn its hard to install themes on KDE =/
[08:53] <stdin> lancelot_rw: did you read the help page ?
[08:53] <cpk1> lancelot_rw: huh? most of the ones you get from kde-look dont even need to be unpacked
[08:53] <underdog5004> hmm, weird...I thought I had the us mirrors selected. Ok, margis you don't need to change anything, unless you want to
[08:53] <lancelot_rw> stdin, yeah.. i read
[08:54] <lancelot_rw> but themes you need to configure it manually
[08:54] <margis> nothing again
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: you mean a complete theme file
[08:54] <stdin> lancelot_rw: ahh, *those* themes
[08:54] <margis> i cant  understand
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: always use "kompile",  builds and installs source with a single click
[08:54] <underdog5004> margis, what do you mean, nothing?
[08:54] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i want a file that I can copy it, or click it.. and then go to System Settings and select it
[08:55] <underdog5004> please be specific
[08:55] <margis> adept  doesnt  download
[08:55] <underdog5004> bummer
[08:55] <lancelot_rw> because some "themes" just change colors
[08:55] <cpk1> first you need to do fetch updates after you add new repos
[08:55] <margis> ok
[08:55] <underdog5004> margis, do an update first
[08:55] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: you can do that with the icons and window decorations but the more complex stuff needs to be build due to distro variations
[08:56] <margis> in terminal?
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> built*
[08:56] <underdog5004> margis, sudo apt-get update
[08:56] <margis> nothing again
[08:56] <margis> the same as   before
[08:56] <pesky> hello i am having problems with edgy it won't boot, i think xserver-xorg isn't working, i just get a blank screen after loading bar
[08:56] <underdog5004> bummer, I'm going to bed...and my girlfriend, good night.
[08:56] <fakepatriot> easiest way to get world of warcraft running under linux?
[08:56] <margis> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:56] <margis> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:56] <margis> margis@margis-laptop:~$
[08:56] <fakepatriot> cedega?
[08:56] <cpk1> fakepatriot: wine or cedega
[08:57] <underdog5004> margis, restart your computer or delete the lock file.
[08:57] <underdog5004> g'night
[08:57] <margis> ok
[08:57] <margis> logout
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: just install kompile  then download the them archive file and tell kompile to install it,  it unpacks the archive and builds it and then install it for you
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> theme*
[08:57] <pesky> hello i am having problems with edgy it won't boot, i think xserver-xorg isn't working, i just get a blank screen after loading bar
[08:57] <underdog5004> omg, that guy is dense!
[08:58] <stdin> yeah, he really is :P
[08:58] <cpk1> however i doubt english is his native language so some of this might be difficult for him
[08:59] <underdog5004> cpk1, yeah, you're right...
[08:59] <stdin> we gave him the link to the -gr channel to, he just ignored it
[08:59] <Linux_Galore> pesky: goto the command line  ctrl alt backspace  or  ctrl alt f1   then enter dpkg-configure sudo xserver-xorg   aftre you login
[08:59] <underdog5004> ok, I really AM going to bed...
[08:59] <underdog5004> g'night
[08:59] <stdin> gn underdog5004
[08:59] <Linux_Galore> after*
[08:59] <Cavallito> hi
[08:59] <margis> ok
[08:59] <stdin> Linux_Galore: you may want to fix that command at the end of your message
[09:00] <Cavallito> still no luck :/
[09:00] <pesky> Linux_Galore I tryed configuring it in recovery mode, maybe i didn't do it right
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> oops
[09:00] <jmdc> I want emacs-like keyboard shortcuts throughout kde. is there a simpler/better way to do that than manually setting a whole bunch of application shortcuts in the control center?
[09:00] <margis> i ma sure that i need  another   sources
[09:00] <Cavallito> now I get error in dmesg: RM/client version mismatch
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> pesky: sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg  sorry typo
[09:00] <pesky> yea don't worry i've got it writen down
[09:00] <margis> when i had mine i  was  founding  programms in internet
[09:00] <margis> now  noting
[09:01] <stdin> Linux_Galore: dpkg-reconfigure, not dpkg-configure :P
[09:01] <Cavallito> :)
[09:01] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[09:01] <pesky> Linux_Galore: so if it's not sending any video signal to the monitor after the loading bar has finished i can definitly assume the xserver-xorg is the problem?
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> pesky: yep the xserver is crashing
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> pesky: whats the graphics card
[09:02] <pesky> Ati radeon 9800se
[09:02] <solidsource> anyone know how I register for this channel/server/whatever?
[09:02] <margis>  nothing yet
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> pesky: ouch
[09:02] <pesky> why? don't tell me i need to buy a new one
[09:02] <cpk1> solidsource: /msg nickserv help register
[09:03] <margis> only me has this problem?all  of  u istalled   kubuntu and  all  was fine?
[09:03] <stdin> !register
[09:03] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:03] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i'll try it later :-)
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> pesky: no, ati drivers have a history of being crappy
[09:03] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, my torrent file stalled at 99.85% =/
[09:03] <pesky> i don't care as long as it runs beryl, i got it running beryl 1.1
[09:03] <SharkP> good morning!
[09:03] <pesky> i want aiglx and dapper was unsuported
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: I uusally wait 12 hours and try again
[09:03] <SharkP> I want my amarok in italian,but it is in english
[09:04] <SharkP> I use GNME
[09:04] <SharkP> How can I do?
[09:04] <cavallo> Linux_Galore: I have reconfigure the xserver but still no luck. in dmesg I get RM/client version mismatch :/
[09:04] <solidsource> stdin: ok and then just wait for a reply or what?
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> stdin: what the difference between reconfigure and configure
[09:05] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, ok man
[09:05] <SharkP> Can anyone help me?
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> stdin: ive always used configure without issue
[09:05] <stdin> Linux_Galore: bash: dpkg-configure: command not found
[09:06] <SharkP> ehi,can anyone help me??
[09:06] <cavallo> hmmm
[09:06] <stdin> solidsource: just follow the guide here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:06] <fakepatriot> lol i know this is gonna sound stupid, but in the middle of my dist-upgrade i closed out the terminal, what should i do lol
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> stdin: aaah
[09:06] <SharkP> good service eh? :(
[09:06] <cavallo> fakepatriot: nothing. Repeat the step
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> stdin: wonder when that was removed
[09:07] <SharkP> bye
[09:07] <stdin> fakepatriot: just type the command again, or "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:08] <cavallo> can aybody give some tip what should I do with my ugly graphic card :)
[09:08] <stdin> Linux_Galore: don't know, but I've always used dpkg-reconfigure
[09:08] <cpk1> put makeup on it
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> stdin: do you feel like your repeating the same answers from a set of 10 all day
[09:08] <cpk1> but not too much otherwise it will look like a street hooker cavallo
[09:08] <cavallo> lol
[09:08] <fakepatriot> it is telling me another process is using the repos
[09:08] <stdin> Linux_Galore: yes, I do :p
[09:08] <fakepatriot> err nvm
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> stdin: Im sure ive posted some answers 20 times repeatedly today
[09:09] <fakepatriot> wait yeah wont let me dpkg --configure -a either
[09:09] <stdin> fakepatriot: what's the error message ?
[09:09] <fakepatriot> database area is locked by another process
[09:10] <stdin> Linux_Galore: yeah, you tend to have to repeat yourself over and over
[09:10] <stdin> !aptfix | fakepatriot
[09:10] <ubotu> fakepatriot: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:10] <stdin> Linux_Galore: the bot helps a bit tho :P
[09:10] <cavallo> buc buc :)
[09:10] <Linux_Galore> stdin: other headache is you dont remember complete commands because in reality one uses autocomplete so you just remember the first few letters
[09:10] <fakepatriot> thanks stdin
[09:11] <fakepatriot> worked
[09:11] <fakepatriot> sigh, i wish i woulda never left, so out of date again :(
[09:11] <stdin> Linux_Galore: that's why I always have konsole set to be above all windows, so I can quickly copy and paste
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> stdin: need a irc client that can hook into the bash auto completion
[09:11] <stdin> Linux_Galore: I think it's on the wishlist for konversation
[09:12] <cpk1> that would be awesome
[09:12] <cavallo> goshgg some time ago I didnt have so much poroblems with nvidia cards :/ Now everything is diffrent :/
[09:12] <stdin> yeah
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> stdin: make my life way easier
[09:12] <cpk1> i try to autocomplete crap all the time
[09:12] <lancelot_rw> guys..
[09:12] <lancelot_rw> gotta
[09:12] <lancelot_rw> go sleep!
[09:12] <stdin> it's like a reflex action when I type a file name :P
[09:12] <cpk1> takes me longer to type sometimes because I am sitting here wondering why apti wont tab complete to aptitude
[09:12] <stdin> later lancelot_rw
[09:13] <lancelot_rw> see ya later.. thanks for everything
[09:13] <solidsource> is there any benefit of using konversation over kopete?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> always spot a Unix geek, he's got a left pinky thats harder than steel
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> from hitting the tab key all day
[09:14] <stdin> I've been known to type /e/X/xo instead of /etc/X11/xorg.conf because I was using tab and not looking :P
[09:14] <cpk1> who needs find when you know you are in the parent directory and just need to tab complete your way through =P
[09:14] <cavallo> solidsource: irssi is bether than both :)
[09:14] <underdog5004> Linux_Galore,  I woulda thought the _right_ pinky from hitting all the /'s in the paths....lol
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: kopete is a messenger client and konversation is specifically designed for irc
[09:15] <Linux_Galore> underdog5004: aah dont have to hit / if bash is setup properly
[09:15] <stdin> heh, you still have to type the 1st one for an absolute path
[09:15] <fakepatriot> im dist-upgrading, is it a stupid idea to mount -a while doing that?
[09:15] <solidsource> Linux_Galore: true, but just wonderin whats the real benefit cause not really seeing any use for konversation...atleast to me
[09:16] <stdin> fakepatriot: can't see how it could harm you
[09:16] <cavallo> ok can anyone give me a hint on my problem :(
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: well kopete has to work with lots of protocols unlike konversation so the developers have to split there time across these different things with their different methods, konversation developers dont have those issues
[09:17] <fakepatriot> solidsource: how do you switch to a diff channel in irssi?
[09:17] <solidsource> cavallo: still having video problems?
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: basically features will go into konversation faster than kopete due to less protocol overhead to deal with
[09:18] <stdin> fakepatriot: same as in any other client "/join #channelname"
[09:18] <solidsource> fakepatriot: don't know, don't use it
[09:18] <cavallo> solidsource: yes :/ now I get in dmesg: RM/client version mismatch ...
[09:18] <fakepatriot> stdin: but if i already have it up
[09:18] <solidsource> Linux_Galore: hmm ok
[09:18] <fakepatriot> stdin: if i have already joined, and need to switch between the chan i am currently on and a diff one
[09:18] <cavallo> fakepatriot: alt+1 2  3 etc ...
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: its the old  too few eggs in too many baskets problem
[09:18] <stdin> fakepatriot: ahh, try Ctrl-P
[09:18] <solidsource> cavallo: damn...thats a new one for me
[09:19] <cavallo> :/
[09:19] <solidsource> Linux_Galore: lol
[09:19] <cavallo> gosshh everything was working like a charm. But after dist-upgrade it all stoped to work properly :(
[09:20] <solidsource> did you upgrade to feisty?
[09:20] <cavallo> no
[09:20] <stdin> nvidia ?
[09:20] <solidsource> ok
[09:20] <cavallo> stdin: zes
[09:20] <cavallo> yes*
[09:21] <stdin> how did you install the driver?
[09:22] <cavallo> first of all from nvidia.limitless source. Than tryed drivers from nvidia site but still nothing. Now I realy dont know what to do :/
[09:22] <fakepatriot> you guys have been lotsa help tonight thanks
[09:24] <stdin> cavallo: ok 1st you need to remove/uninstall all the nvidia drivers you installed, then install only 1, either the ubuntu version ("nvidia-glx" for recent cards or "nvidia-glx-legacy" for older ones) compile a new on with the kernel headers
[09:25] <Linux_Galore> stdin: dont forget if you install the legacy driver you have to disable compiz in xorg.conf
[09:25] <stdin> cavallo: ^^
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> Hello!
[09:26] <stdin> hello crazy_penguin
[09:26] <fakepatriot> penguins ftw
[09:28] <cavallo> nvidia-glx-legacy drivers are for old NVIDIA cards ?
[09:28] <solidsource> yes
[09:28] <stdin> take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:28] <cavallo> Im in console :)
[09:29] <stdin> and you don't have links/elinks ?
[09:29] <cavallo> not yet :) will have it right now :) brb
[09:30] <cavallo> hmmmm damn. Cant copy the link :D Must retype it :/
[09:30] <stdin> also, just because, you can install gpm to use the mouse to copy/paste in console :)
[09:30] <cavallo> :D
[09:31] <stdin> heh, just answered that for you, install gpm then sudo /etc/init.d/gpm start
[09:31] <cavallo> stdin: goshhh :D didnt know that :D
[09:31] <stdin> when you spend a lot of time in console, you pick a few tricks up :P
[09:37] <solidsource> wow that was a lot of loining/leaving messages
[09:37] <solidsource> joining*
[09:37] <stdin> heh, wait for a netsplit
[09:38] <underdog5004> ridin' the split
[09:39] <solidsource> wonder if there is way to filter them out in kopete so that you distracted from the conversation
[09:39] <stdin> don't know about kopete, but you can in konversation
[09:42] <solidsource> anyone using crossover?
[09:46] <solidsource> take that as you use wine directly or not at all
[09:48] <cpk1> i use wine
[09:48] <cpk1> its free
[09:48] <solidsource> yeah, I be usin crossover cause I got too lazy to keep reconfiguring wine
[09:55] <shinigami> !nvidia
[09:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:56] <cavallo> gosh :D
[09:56] <cavallo> it works now :D
[09:56] <solidsource> !XDMCP
[09:56] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[09:57] <solidsource> lol good
[09:57] <cavallo> I have removed all installed drivers from repos and installed drivers from nvidia site and all works ok :)
[09:57] <solidsource> how about this, anyone get XDMCP remote login to work without crashing the host machine on logout?
[09:58] <stdin> good, just remember then when you have a kernel update, you'll have to recompile the drivers again cavallo
[09:58] <cavallo> ok. I will remember that :) Thanks to everyone for help!
[10:00] <shinigami> !nvidia
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <cavallo> hmm why I have trz icon for updating packages ? I have to update about 31 packages but everytime I run that then it is still there. So I can updating this all over again and there are still updates for the same packages. Is there any bug or something ?
[10:02] <stdin> cavallo: does sudo apt-get upgrade install anything ?
[10:02] <solidsource> lol, I had a similar problem earlier...to bad I have no idea what I did to fix it
[10:02] <cavallo> stdin: no
[10:03] <stdin> cavallo: are there any "held back" packages ?
[10:03] <cavallo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5185/
[10:03] <stdin> try a dist-upgrade
[10:04] <stdin> either from apt-get or adept manager
[10:04] <shinigami> hi i'm having problem with my wireless network card.. its got wlan0 and wmaster0, couldn't connect to my network no matter how i try to key in the ssid and wep key.. network card is workable in windows and wireless network is up (tested with laptop)
[10:04] <cavallo> stdin: same thing
[10:05] <shinigami> Network controller is RaLink RT2561/PT61 Pci
[10:05] <stdin> cavallo: what happens if you do it in adept manager (not with the update icon)
[10:06] <solidsource> shinigami: chekc to make sure the card is enabled in control center
[10:06] <shinigami> yea enabled
[10:07] <shinigami> iwlist wlan0 scan can find my wireless network
[10:07] <shinigami> but attempt to connect just doesn't get connect.. my router dhcp also show no signs of attempts to connect..
[10:07] <solidsource> shinigami: what program are you using to try and connect?
[10:09] <shinigami> ifup and ifdown wlan0 .. tried Wireless Assistant manager, also Systems-->Network
[10:09] <shinigami> these 3 methods
[10:09] <shinigami> dhclient wlan0 too
[10:09] <stdin> there is knetworkmanager too
[10:10] <solidsource> yeah, thats what I used
[10:10] <shinigami> where is it
[10:10] <stdin> !knetworkmanager
[10:10] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[10:10] <solidsource> adept
[10:11] <shinigami> have to download? problem is i couldn't have a network
[10:11] <solidsource> no wired access?
[10:11] <shinigami> no but i could try
[10:11] <shinigami> brb i plug in a network card
[10:11] <cavallo> stdin: if I click "Full Upgrade" it does nothing.
[10:12] <stdin> cavallo: what about if you click on "preview changes" or "apply changes" ?
[10:13] <solidsource> cavallo: in adept search python and see if what it says when you request the upgrade
[10:13] <cavallo> stdin: there is no packages if I click on "applay changes"
[10:13] <stdin> hmm
[10:14] <solidsource> the reason they might have been kept back from being installed is because they may break-install
[10:14] <jerware> hi
[10:14] <jerware> i installed kubuntu from the alternative cd.
[10:15] <solidsource> and if you search for "python" and request the upgrade, it may tell you whether thats the problem
[10:15] <stdin> cavallo: what if you close adept and use "sudo apt-get install (list of packages here)" ?
[10:15] <jerware> yet,  the monitor is black when boot.  but X and kde run fine from a knoppix cd
[10:15] <jerware> why?
[10:17] <solidsource> not familar witht the alternative discs...I only use the full version discs
[10:17] <jerware> ugh.  i should just get a new video card
[10:17] <jerware> mine is really old
[10:17] <solidsource> may need to install the legacy driver if thats the case
[10:18] <cavallo> stdin: I have search for python and this packages were marked as upgradable and I have checked all of the to upgrade and now it is upgrading :/ strange. And also same packages (mybe other versions) were removed :/
[10:18] <jerware> solidsource, where can i learn more about this legasy driver?
[10:18] <solidsource> adept is weird sometimes
[10:18] <jerware> is it just for the graphics card
[10:18] <stdin> cavallo: are you sure you did "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" before ?
[10:18] <cavallo> 100%
[10:19] <solidsource> jerware: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy will show you how to do most things
[10:19] <stdin> cavallo: strange
[10:19] <cavallo> very :)
[10:19] <solidsource> yes adept can be fickle
[10:19] <stdin> but apt-get ?
[10:19] <jerware> solidsource, Ubunut_Edgy ?
[10:19] <jerware> isnt it at dappar ?
[10:20] <stdin> depends which you installed jerware
[10:20] <solidsource> edgy is the latest official release, the site also contains info on the other versions
[10:20] <solidsource> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[10:20] <stdin> s/official/stable/
[10:21] <cavallo> when kde 3.5.6 will be in edgy  ? :)
[10:21] <solidsource> it is
[10:21] <stdin> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[10:22] <cavallo> goshhh :) sorry :) didnt see that on kubuntu.org :/
[10:23] <solidsource> yeah, could use thos repos, or just use the ones the source-o-matic gives
[10:23] <solidsource> I like the source-o-matic ones since you don't have to update the version number everytime to update
[10:24] <solidsource> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy maindeb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[10:24] <solidsource> oops...here we go
[10:24] <solidsource> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[10:24] <solidsource> deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main
[10:25] <cavallo> :)
[10:25] <cavallo> thanks
[10:26] <Alzi2> Hey. Ever since i tried binding the program 'mednafen' to the .GBA filetype, when i open a file with no extension it gives this error two times: "Could not find the following mime-type: application/octet-stream". Can anyone help me fix this?
[10:27] <cavallo> is there any option to save password for samba? When I go in konqueror to smb://etc I have to type password every time. Is possible to save it ?
[10:28] <solidsource> kind of
[10:29] <Alzi2> Anyone?
[10:29] <solidsource> heres a forum that will tell you how to configure samba, it works great
[10:29] <solidsource> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[10:30] <solidsource> though, the username and password have to be the same as the ones you designate in samba
[10:30] <solidsource> for both machines
[10:30] <cavallo> hmmm. If I have on other computer installed ubuntu. How should I access files on that computer ? Is samba the only way ?
[10:30] <solidsource> Alzi2: sorry I'm no use for that
[10:31] <Alzi2> hmm, okay...
[10:31] <stdin> cavallo: no, there is samba, nfs, ssh, http, ftp
[10:31] <stdin> and more :P
[10:32] <solidsource> yeah, Samba and FTP being the easiest
[10:32] <stdin> ssh is easy
[10:32] <solidsource> yeah, all command line though, I like my ey candy
[10:32] <cavallo> I have all of them working :) but I was thinking that there is any other option in *ubuntu OS
[10:35] <stdin> solidsource: konqui can use ssh you know
[10:36] <solidsource> stdin: yeah but why bother with that when you can just go through a file browser...unless you are doing through the internet and not just a network, then yes that be the way to go
[10:36] <shinigami> !nvidia
[10:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:37] <solidsource> having video driver problems shinigami?
[10:37] <stdin> solidsource: konqueror is a file browser
[10:38] <shinigami> trying out
[10:38] <shinigami> brb
[10:38] <cavallo> today is the day with nvidia problems :D
[10:39] <stdin> solidsource: fish:/(IP of ssh server) in konqueror, try it
[10:39] <solidsource> stdin: can't....only 1 linux machine and a windows laptop
[10:39] <stdin> cavallo: everyday is the nvidia problem day
[10:39] <solidsource> lol
[10:40] <stdin> solidsource: install shh on the linux one and do fish:/(local IP) :P
[10:40] <stdin> s/shh/ssh/
[10:40] <dettoaltrimenti> are there any irc channels dedicated to help with openoffice?
[10:40] <cavallo> stdin: it works :) nice :)
[10:41] <craigevil> dettoaltrimenti: #openoffice.org
[10:41] <stdin> ssh is secure, and has full permissions support, it's great :)
[10:42] <solidsource> hmm I got blank screen
[10:42] <cavallo> didnt know for that -> fish://....
[10:42] <dettoaltrimenti> and in konqueror whenever I try to open a website, it tries to open it with another program
[10:42] <solidsource> ooohh nevermind ...forgot the second slash
[10:42] <stdin> solidsource: yeah it's fish://(host/IP) not fish:/
[10:43] <shinigami> i've followed the instructions to install my nvidia 6600 GT.. last time in my dapper, the nvidia screen would appear before log in screen.. now i'm on edgy, it doesn't..so is it normal?
[10:43] <solidsource> isn't there a way to do remote login through SSH and have the login screen come up?
[10:44] <solidsource> shinigami: yes its normal
[10:44] <stdin> solidsource: hmm, maybe with ssh+vnc
[10:44] <stdin> !vnc
[10:44] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:45] <zenum> hi, what is the application which shows the battery and cpu status in the kicker?
[10:45] <solidsource> stdin: well from what I read of it, you type "kdm start" while in command line of ssh and its supposed to work
[10:45] <zenum> the one thats default from the livecd of edgy?
[10:45] <solidsource> stdin: but never got it to work...unless I misread
[10:46] <stdin> solidsource: when I've done it, KDM always started on the local screen, not the remote one
[10:46] <stdin> solidsource: you could always login over ssh then do startkde
[10:46] <cavallo> one more problem :) I must connect throught VPN to my workplace. And then I must somehow use RDC. Which tools I should use ?
[10:47] <solidsource> stdin: hmm I've tried logining in before and then starting...it just failed evertime
[10:47] <stdin> krdc
[10:47] <stdin> solidsource: I've had a session run over ssh before, with startkde
[10:47] <stdin> and it was in a nested X server too :)
[10:48] <stdin> cavallo: krdc should do it
[10:48] <cavallo> stdin: and how I create VPN connection ?
[10:49] <stdin> cavallo: never had to, so I don't know, but I found this which may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[10:49] <shinigami> hi i know of this command fuser .. how can i use it to check what applications are holding my sound card hardware?
[10:50] <solidsource> stdin: alright, i'll give it another try see if I was doing anything wrong
[10:50] <stdin> shinigami: fiser /dev/dsp and fuser /dev/snd/*
[10:51] <stdin> solidsource: make sure you connect with -X or -Y
[10:52] <stdin> eg: ssh -CY user@host startkde
[10:56] <solidsource> stdin: ok, that blew up in my face
[10:57] <solidsource> stdin: crashed my current login session
[10:58] <stdin> solidsource: maybe try not to start a session with the same user
[10:58] <solidsource> stdin: yeah, thats one thing should have done from the start
[10:59] <stdin> solidsource: KDE over SSH in a nested X server: http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot13jm5.jpg
[11:00] <XenThraL> Hi, my swap seems to have gonne missing, tried a few solutions I found on the net but no dice
[11:01] <stdin> XenThraL: is it in your /etc/fstab file ?
[11:01] <XenThraL> eh, I don't know, I'm very linux illiterate
[11:01] <stdin> XenThraL: what have you tried so far?
[11:02] <XenThraL> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/2488
[11:02] <XenThraL> weird, I think I fixed it then
[11:02] <XenThraL> KDE system guard is saying 1gb swap
[11:02] <XenThraL> all of it free
[11:03] <XenThraL> I'm gonna reboot see if will still be fixed
[11:03] <solidsource> stdin: ok that not working so happy
[11:08] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[11:09] <stdin> solidsource: how are you doing it?
[11:09] <solidsource> stdin: no good
[11:09] <solidsource> stdin: crashed the entire computer that time
[11:10] <solidsource> stdin: what was the -y command again?
[11:11] <stdin> solidsource: that lets you forward X, from a trusted host, -X has a few security things built in, but -Y disables them
[11:12] <stdin> solidsource: steps I did was "Xephyr :1 &" (nested X server running on :1), then "export DISPLAY=:1", "ssh -CY user@host" then "startkde"
[11:12] <XenThraL> stdin: should I be concerned at all that none of the swap space is being used?
[11:12] <XenThraL> (though now it does display 1gb as being avaliable, as opposed to none before)
[11:12] <stdin> XenThraL: the system will only use it when you need it
[11:13] <XenThraL> cool
[11:14] <solidsource> stdin: Xephyr :1 & gave me command not found notice
[11:14] <Steven_M> hi all\
[11:15] <Steven_M> has anyone here connected to a ansi telnet server under linux?
[11:15] <solidsource> stdin: and thats because its not installed...whats the odds
[11:16] <stdin> solidsource: heh :P
[11:17] <stdin> !xephyr
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xephyr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <stdin> !Xephyr
[11:18] <stdin> ahh
[11:18] <solidsource> stdin: ok, now to just get this work on a windows machine connecting to my kubuntu machine and all I will be all the joy
[11:18] <stdin> solidsource: there are X servers you can get for windows
[11:18] <stdin> solidsource: xwin32 is the one I remember off the top of my head
[11:20] <solidsource> stdin: oh you pick the one that costs money to be the one to remember how coy
[11:21] <solidsource> stdin: *sarcasm my kind of joking*
[11:23] <stdin> solidsource: it's was the one I remember (and I didn't pay for it :>), but cygwin (i think that's want it's called) has one too
[11:24] <solidsource> stdin: yeah installing cygwin now
[11:25] <stdin> with that and putty you should be able to do it quite easily
[11:25] <solidsource> stdin: though I may wait till this install finishes before testing just case it crashes things and ruins the install
[11:26] <stdin> good idea :P
[11:26] <crusty> hello guys! wich program i do need to tranform a dvd in to avi???????i got kubuntu edgy 6.10...
[11:27] <solidsource> hmmm acidrip might do it
[11:27] <stdin> maybe dvdrip too
[11:28] <stdin> argg, it's Sunday, and I now have to get ready for work :''(
[11:28] <cavallo> which repo I should use for realplayer ?
[11:28] <solidsource> lol...yeah, it 2:30 am sunday here...I should be asleep
[11:28] <yura> keyboard language switcher in KDE doesn't work, If I'm clicking on the flag it switches, if I'm using key combination - not, can anyone help me?
[11:29] <stdin> solidsource: 10:30am here, the good thing is I don't start until 11:30am, the bad this is I don't finish until 10:30pm
[11:29] <stdin> solidsource: worse thing is ! woke up at 6am
[11:30] <solidsource> cavallo: use the sources.list generator, it will provide all the repos you need http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[11:30] <solidsource> stdin: see I don't do those type of things...I tend to go to bed at 6am
[11:31] <stdin> solidsource: i didn't go to bed until midnight, and that's early for me :P
[11:32] <yura> keyboard language switcher in KDE doesn't work, If I'm clicking on the flag it switches, if I'm using key combination - not, can anyone help me?
[11:32] <aarohi> neither amaroK nor konversation are showing a tray icon in ubuntu.... are there some settings I need to set up?
[11:32] <stdin> ahh, I really should get ready now
[11:32] <dinosaur-rus> yura: what key combination do you use?
[11:33] <solidsource> stdin: alright cygwin installed...now to figure it out in combinatin of putty
[11:33] <stdin> solidsource: tip: start the cygwin server 1st, then putty, it should then detect it, you'll also have to set putty to forward the X server (now I'm gone :P )
[11:34] <solidsource> stdin: alright thanks for all the help...have fun at work
[11:34] <stdin> not likely, but thanks :)
[11:34] <yura> Ctrl-Alt
[11:35] <yura> as It's set in options
[11:35] <yura> Sorry, Alt+Shift
[11:36] <naph> hi, is there a way with kubuntu to allow non-root users to bind to port 80?  thanks.
[11:37] <dinosaur-rus> yura: try to change it and check if new combination works. combinations of modifier keys are unlikely to work... :(
[11:38] <dinosaur-rus> does anyone use beep-media-player from pckages repository?
[11:40] <yura> Just tried setting different combinations, but doesn't work either
[11:41] <dinosaur-rus> yura: do other hotkeys work?
[11:42] <daftman> hi
[11:43] <daftman> can some one help me enable port 3000 for rails
[11:43] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[11:43] <naph> hi, is there a way with kubuntu to allow non-root users to bind to port 80?  or maybe a way to switch the user of a process from root to something else after it's bound to the port? thanks.
[11:43] <daftman> !port
[11:43] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[11:44] <daftman> !firewall
[11:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:45] <daftman> can someone help enable port 3000
[11:45] <dinosaur-rus> I can't get gnash plugin for Konqueror to work
[11:45] <daftman> i can connect from localhost but i cant connect from outside
[11:46] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3000 -j ACCEPT
[11:46] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 3000 -j ACCEPT
[11:46] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: ?
[11:47] <daftman> ok
[11:47] <daftman> does it block it by default?
[11:47] <dinosaur-rus> I have konqueror-plugin-gnash package installed, by Konq doesn't even see it
[11:47] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: depends on your iptables settings
[11:47] <daftman> well my iptables are blank
[11:48] <daftman> no settings
[11:48] <daftman> i can gett ssh through but i can't get port 3000
[11:48] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: do "sudo iptables -L" and look at chain policies
[11:49] <daftman> yep it is empty
[11:49] <daftman> I tried what you typed
[11:49] <daftman> but i cant get it even trhough my lan
[11:50] <daftman> localhost:3000 work but 192.168.0.2:3000 doesn't work
[11:52] <cpk1> daftman: you need to tell it what interface i think
[11:52] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: what chain policies do you have?
[11:55] <cpk1> daftman: /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html might help you out ( you should have it)
[12:01] <yura> Yes, I tried different hotkeys
[12:02] <dinosaur-rus> yura: I meant any hotkeys, not only for changing the language
[12:05] <daftman> dinosaur-rus: I don't have any chain policies
[12:05] <daftman> it just a default ubuntu install
[12:05] <daftman> but i can run ssh but not a rails webserver
[12:05] <daftman> *i mean I can connect to ssh
[12:06] <daftman> *but not rails
[12:07] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: may be server settings deny connections from addresses other than 127.0.0.1?
[12:08] <daftman> dinosaur-rus: it allow connect for ssh
[12:09] <daftman> *allows connections
[12:10] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: look in rails settings
[12:11] <yura> Tried those defined in KDE System settings - works OK
[12:12] <cavallo> is beryl hard to install ?
[12:12] <daftman> hmmm nope rails settings has nothing to do with connections, just application settings
[12:15] <dinosaur-rus> daftman: is ssh on 192.168.0.2 works, then I don't know what prevents rails from doing the same thing. sorry.
[12:19] <timmbob> Hi! Is it possible to launch applications marked as "default application" (System Settings) from the commandline? Like calling "webbrowser" and whatever webbrowser is marked as default will be launched?
[12:21] <CrakeHunter> hello i would like to watch my dvds with dolbydigital on totem
[12:22] <CrakeHunter> in section audio i switched to ac3 output - but doesnt work . if i restart the player its back at stereo. what should i do?
[12:23] <fernando> Hi, in the last days I have upgrade my kernel to 2.11, and I want delete from the initial list the version 2.10..how can I do that??
[12:23] <fernando> in a safe way of course
[12:29] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: what Kubuntu version are you using? these kernels seem to be too old... :)
[12:47] <hoky> where can i make ubdate?
[12:47] <hoky> update?
[12:48] <dinosaur-rus> hoky: what update do you mean?
[12:48] <hoky> all
[12:48] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: kubuntu 6.10
[12:48] <hoky> for kubuntu
[12:50] <cavallo> pffff
[12:50] <hoky> where can i found kubuntu 6.10?
[12:50] <cavallo> beryl p0wnz :D
[12:50] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: the kunbuntu 6.10 come with 2.6.17-10, now I have upgrade it to 2.6.17-11
[12:50] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: but I want remove from the initial list the option for 2.6.17-10
[12:51] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: I can edit the file on /boot/grub but I want to know if existe a safe way to do that..
[12:51] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: ah... then remove all 2.6.17-10 packages
[12:51] <dinosaur-rus> hoky: http://www.kubuntu.org ?
[12:52] <fernando> dinosaur_rus: I did't, but nevertheless the option is there
[12:52] <fernando> dinosaur_rus: to remove the packages doesn't mean to update the file list from grub
[12:53] <dinosaur-rus> dernando: it'll update your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:53] <dinosaur-rus> fernando
[12:54] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: or run "sudo update-grub"
[12:55] <hoky> thank you
[12:55] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: I have edit the meu.list file.. its work.. I will try the update-grub next time :-)
[12:55] <hoky> which the best kubuntu or ubunto ?
[12:55] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: thanks.. :-)
[12:55] <hoky> ubuntu?
[12:55] <axg> depends.
[12:55] <fernando> hoky: the only difference is the desktop enviroment..
[12:55] <axg> its the same.
[12:55] <dinosaur-rus> what music player (mp3, ogg and different tracker formats) do you recommend?
[12:55] <axg> just your DM preference changes it..
[12:56] <Lynoure> hoky: Which do you use know, kde or gnome?
[12:56] <Lynoure> hoky: and are you happy with it?
[12:56] <hoky> kde
[12:56] <Jucato> !best
[12:56] <hoky> yes  with kubuntu
[12:56] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:56] <Lynoure> hoky: if you are happy with it, stick to it. :) But you can install both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop side by side, too
[12:57] <vduck> theres something wrong with the letters on my console.. if i open the midnight commander for example, it shows only weird characters instead of the borders. how can i solve that problem?
[12:57] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: I use mplayer.. is realy good
[12:57] <hoky> ok thank you
[12:57] <hoky> :)))
[12:58] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: I like mplayer, too. but it doesn't seem to support playlists
[12:58] <fernando> fernando: kaffeine is also good if you have the right codecs
[12:58] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: I'd want something like XMMS, but with better VBR mp3 support
[12:59] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: I also use, Streamtuner, is realy good for music
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> ?? kaffeine is just a front end
[12:59] <fernando> linux_galore: yes. it is, but suport playlists
[01:00] <vduck> where can i set/change the codepage in ubuntu?
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> fernando: you can do playlists in mplayer
[01:00] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: could you get working bmpx?
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> although I must admit kmplayer and kaffeine do a better job
[01:01] <fernando> linux_galore: to be honest, normally I dont use playlists with mplayer, just a single film and that's all, give me a moment to verify
[01:02] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: sorry, I dont know bmpx? can you explain me?
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> fernando: Im using vlc allot these days, although sub fonts suck in vlc on some file so i swap back to mplayer
[01:02] <dettoaltrimenti> does amarok have a 'mini player' mode, like itunes?
[01:02] <fernando> linux_Galore: yes.. you have the option for playlist
[01:02] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: it's new branch of BMP player
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti: yep
[01:03] <dettoaltrimenti> how do I engage it?
[01:03] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: sorry, I have not try still
[01:03] <dettoaltrimenti> also, when I play a new song, amarok tries to 'update collection,' which I don't want it to do- can I change that somewhere in settings?
[01:05] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: do you know another program like grub, but graphically more nice??
[01:05] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti: not really sure, but you can try Settings ->Configure Amarok -> Collection -> uncheck Watch folders for changes
[01:05] <Jucato> !gfxboot
[01:06] <ubotu> gfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[01:06] <dinosaur-rus> fernando: I don't use graphical boot managers
[01:06] <fernando> dinosaur-rus: I have seen other start system more nice, but I dont remmeber its names
[01:06] <Jucato> fernando: try researching on that ^^^
[01:06] <Jucato> it's what SUSE and MEPIS use for theming their GRUB menus
[01:06] <fernando> ubotu: is gfxboot good?
[01:06] <Jucato> however, you can also add images to a plain GRUB menu
[01:06] <Jucato> fernando: ubotu is a bot
[01:06] <zorglu_> q. i run edgy and it limit the directories seen at / to /home and /media, i remember seeing a page on how to remove this. but i dont remember the url, any suggestion ?
[01:07] <Jucato> !ubotu | fernando
[01:07] <ubotu> fernando: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:07] <Jucato> !hidden | zorglu_
[01:07] <ubotu> zorglu_: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:07] <Jucato> zorglu_: rejoice and be glad, it will be gone in feisty
[01:07] <fernando> jucato: yes jajaa, I found it out right now:p
[01:07] <zorglu_> Jucato: thanks :)
[01:07] <fernando> jucato: and how is work with gfxboot?
[01:08] <Jucato> fernando: not really sure. I haven't tried installing it (yet)
[01:08] <fernando> jucato: I mean.. can I configurate from this graphics enviroment?
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti: its an applet you add to kicker, there is also plugin that does a similar thing
[01:08] <Jucato> fernando: take note, it doesn't really replace GRUB. it's just like a theming/skinning program for GRUB
[01:08] <X2B> fernando: THeres a pic of gfxmenu here: http://www.kubuntu-de.net/forum/index.php?topic=3790.0
[01:08] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks Linux_Galore, can I get it through adept?
[01:08] <fernando> x2b: thanks..
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti: Im just checking been a while since ive used the applet
[01:10] <fernando> x2b: how did you know that I know german??? or is was just luck :p
[01:10] <fernando> x2b: because the website is in german
[01:10] <fernando> x2b: bis du in Deustchland??
[01:11] <X2B> jo, bin ich, aber ich wusste nicht, dass du es auch bist
[01:12] <X2B> Warum dann nicht #kubuntu-de ?
[01:13] <fernando> x2b: jaja, Ich whone in Deustchland nur par jhare, aber mein deusch is noch nicht so good
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti: its an applet called media control,  its part of the kicker-applets package
[01:14] <fernando> x2b: ich besser sprechen als schreiben.. ;-)
[01:14] <fernando> x2b: ich kann....
[01:14] <fernando> x2b: warum du nicht #kubuntu-de???
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti: intall the package then right click on kicker then Configure->Add Applet  look for the media applet
[01:15] <Jucato> !de
[01:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:15] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti: install*
[01:15] <X2B> Sry ^^
[01:15] <pituka> hello, i have a pretty weird issue: Amarok only starts as root, not with user rights - but there should be no reason for that.
[01:15] <X2B> fernando: I am in the german channel as well
[01:15] <mackinac> with the kubuntu desktop CD - are there boot parms to go directly to installation, or do i need to load the live desktop then install?
[01:16] <Jucato> mackinac: you need to load the desktop
[01:16] <mackinac> Jucato, thanks
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> dettoaltrimenti: there are also some plugins, look in kde-look.org
[01:16] <fernando> x2b: where exactly are you??
[01:16] <pituka> mackinac: desktop installation is just great - even better and easier than Win XP installation.
[01:16] <dinosaur-rus> mckinac: I recommend alternative CD
[01:17] <fernando> x2b: I am in karlsruhe
[01:17] <dinosaur-rus> ;)
[01:17] <mackinac> yeah i've done the install from desktop thing already
[01:18] <mray> so -is there a problem with the desktop install?
[01:18] <X2B> fernando: Near Hamburg
[01:18] <Gunirus> Gello
[01:18] <mackinac> i was hoping to be able to do a server install without dl'ing another iso, no problem :)
[01:18] <Gunirus> Hello
[01:19] <fernando> x2b: do you know a irc chanel for opengl and glut stuff???
[01:19] <lancelot_rw_away> morning guys
[01:19] <Gunirus> I need help with my Wireless network
[01:19] <fernando> lancelot: morning
[01:19] <mray> so, maybe somebody has asolution for my problem? : Amarok runs only as root.
[01:19] <Gunirus> mray: i had the same problem
[01:20] <mray> Gunris: use Knetworkamanager - it handles even WPA 1 :P
[01:20] <Gunirus> i removed all the config files
[01:20] <Gunirus> and it worked agai
[01:20] <Gunirus> n
[01:20] <mray> in the /user folder?
[01:20] <[-I-] 3poc> sounds like file permissions
[01:20] <Gunirus> yes
[01:21] <mray> only the ones inside the .kde/ older?
[01:21] <mray> or are there others?
[01:21] <Gunirus> ~/.kde
[01:21] <mray> because i would BET i tried that already.
[01:21] <mray> ok il try again.
[01:21] <CrakeHunter> hello, how do i activate ac3 - passthrough with alsa? im using a audigy 2zs
[01:22] <fernando> ginirus: did you see if you wireless is enable as hardware??
[01:22] <Gunirus> i can connect to my network with wlassistant
[01:22] <Gunirus> but i want to connect when my computer boot
[01:22] <Gunirus> s
[01:23] <mray> does wlassistant support WPA ?
[01:23] <Gunirus> WEP
[01:23] <mray> :P
[01:23] <mray> WEP is out of date. I guess it is VERY easy to crack.
[01:24] <Gunirus> ok
[01:24] <Gunirus> Then i'll use WPA
[01:24] <Gunirus> can you help me with that?
[01:24] <mray> the standard WLAn components that ship with kubuntu aren't capable of dealing with WPA :P
[01:25] <mray> thats the problem.
[01:25] <ForgeAus> can you add them in? install a package or two?
[01:25] <mray> i installed knetworkmanager
[01:25] <mray> that does do the trick.
[01:25] <lancelot_rw> oh damn... i went to bed at 6:30 am.. and woke up at 10:15
[01:25] <Gunirus> knetworkmanager :(
[01:25] <Gunirus> not working here
[01:25] <Gunirus> wait
[01:26] <Gunirus> back in a few minutes
[01:26] <mray> well. WEP is good eough if you want to keep out kurious neighbours - the non-nerdy ones.
[01:27] <pedrinho> gente
[01:27] <ForgeAus> why does my HDD keep saying its full?
[01:27] <pedrinho> por favor...alguem ai pode me ajudar???
[01:28] <pedrinho> instalei o kubunto aki no meu pc...mas ele nao reproduz o som
[01:28] <pedrinho> ????
[01:28] <lancelot_rw> pedrinho, deu sorte... acho ngm aki fala portugues
[01:28] <pedrinho> por favor me ajudem ai
[01:28] <pedrinho> affffffffff
[01:28] <pedrinho> kredo entao
[01:28] <ForgeAus> what language is that?
[01:28] <lancelot_rw> ForgeAus, its portuguese
[01:28] <pedrinho> e onde tem um canal  em portugues?
[01:28] <pedrinho> vc sabe?
[01:28] <lancelot_rw> pedrinho, q c precisa?
[01:29] <lancelot_rw> as vezes eu posso ajudar
[01:29] <pedrinho> kra
[01:29] <pedrinho> instalei o kubunto aki...mas nao sai som
[01:29] <zorglu_> !pt
[01:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:29] <ForgeAus> yeah thats what I was wondering about
[01:30] <lancelot_rw> ForgeAus, hehehe and the guy still complain that nobody helped him .. LOL
[01:30] <Gunirus> back
[01:30] <zorglu_> ForgeAus: explain more about your disk full stuff
[01:30] <lancelot_rw> pedrinho, viu os canais ai!?
[01:30] <pedrinho> aham
[01:30] <pedrinho> vi sim
[01:30] <mray> Gunirus: you can read german?
[01:30] <pedrinho> vlw ai
[01:30] <lancelot_rw> ok :-)
[01:30] <pedrinho> \o/
[01:31] <Gunirus> mray: a little bit
[01:31] <mray> http://rikman.mtb-news.de/archives/2006/07/14/wpa-wlan-unter-xubuntu-kubuntu-oder-ubuntu-606/
[01:31] <mray> thats the link that helped me.
[01:31] <ForgeAus> zorglu um is there a way if I can find out if theres a file or something filling up my "free space?"
[01:31] <Gunirus> i'll try it
[01:31] <akrus> could someone help me with microsoft & soft-phone?
[01:31] <zorglu_> mray: Gunirus: google has a translation stuff which may help
[01:31] <Gunirus> i know :)
[01:31] <Gunirus> thx
[01:32] <akrus> I can hear myself speaking while Microphone is enabled in KMix, but never in *any* SIP phone :(
[01:32] <Jucato> ForgeAus: a good graphical way to find out would be using Filelight
[01:32] <zorglu_> ForgeAus: type 'df' in a konsole, it will report the amount of space used by disk partition
[01:32] <zorglu_> akrus: what you hear is likely the sound card echo, aka this is not reaching the OS
[01:32] <ForgeAus>  hmmm /dev/sdb2             30423712  28878248        12 100% /media/sdb2
[01:33] <akrus> it's not echo :(
[01:33] <zorglu_> akrus: check your volume on the OS
[01:33] <akrus> it's ok
[01:33] <ForgeAus> I don't have Filelight
[01:33] <akrus> lemme try sound recording
[01:33] <zorglu_> ForgeAus: well your disk is 'full'
[01:33] <[-I-] 3poc> df -h is readable
[01:33] <ForgeAus> but I just removed several files over 100MB
[01:33] <ForgeAus> it CAN"T be full
[01:33] <akrus> same with sound recording
[01:33] <zorglu_> ForgeAus: the 200mbyte of difference is the reserved part. you can remove it with tune2fs tool
[01:34] <akrus> zorglu_: could you tell me how to check?
[01:34] <zorglu_> !sound
[01:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:34] <zorglu_> akrus: try this
[01:34] <ForgeAus> I don't want to remove a reserved bit
[01:34] <akrus> ok thx
[01:34] <mray> i'getting depressed: Amarok is so great, but it only wants to run as root.
[01:34] <Jucato> ForgeAus: try "sudo apt-get autoclean" to clean the apt cache
[01:34] <ForgeAus> I know I have free space, somethings auto-filling it
[01:34] <lancelot_rw> what are the codecs to download to run .wmv files?
[01:34] <Gunirus> mray: knetworkmanager can't connect to my wireless network
[01:34] <lancelot_rw> !wmv
[01:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:35] <ForgeAus> I deleted the package cache too
[01:35] <lancelot_rw> !wmvcodecs
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmvcodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <lancelot_rw> !wmvcodec
[01:35] <ForgeAus> (before)
[01:35] <crazy_bus> !kcheckgmail
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmvcodec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <ForgeAus> thats the first thing I did
[01:35] <ubotu> kcheckgmail: KDE systray application to check GMail accounts. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-1.1 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 580 kB
[01:35] <mray> Gunirus: did you "sudo aptitude install wpasupplicant" ?
[01:35] <Gunirus> it is still a wep network
[01:35] <Gunirus> but knetworkmanager can't connect to it
[01:35] <lancelot_rw> fernando, man how do I play wmv videos?
[01:35] <akrus> zorglu_: oh btw may this problem be caused because of Full Duplex? :x
[01:35] <Gunirus> even not when i disabel wep
[01:35] <[-I-] 3poc> forgeaus: man fuser
[01:36] <pedrinho> lancelot_rw  ... meu nick nao e cadastrado por isso nao da pra te responder na conversa reservada...vo ver se consigo registrar ele aki...
[01:36] <lancelot_rw> pedrinho, ok
[01:36] <mray> Gunirus: If you still use WEP then there is no reason to use the non-standard WLAN software.
[01:36] <pedrinho> mas msm assim...obrigado pelas dicas la...vo fazer akelas paradas la..
[01:36] <pedrinho> \o/
[01:36] <pedrinho> vlws
[01:36] <[-I-] 3poc> fuser tells you what process has files open
[01:36] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to use kcheckgmail but I'm getting the error "Unknown error retrieving cookies"can anyone help fix this?
[01:36] <zorglu_> akrus: maybe, it is possible to enable/disable fullduplex in the sound card config
[01:36] <mray> Gunirus: If you want to start using WPA instaed of WEP you first have to set up your WLAN-router to do so.
[01:36] <Gunirus> mray: but knetworkmanager can't connect to a wirelss network, not to a WEP network not to an unprotected network, ...
[01:37] <Gunirus> i know
[01:37] <fernando> lancelot: you have to install the codecs for windows 32
[01:37] <lancelot_rw> fernando, do you know the names? so I can do an APT-get
[01:37] <mray> Gunirus: did you follow the instructions completely (including the editing of /etc/network/interfaces ) ?
[01:38] <lancelot_rw> pedrinho, viu la como registra o nick ?
[01:38] <Gunirus> i've tried lots of things with /etc/network/interfaces
[01:38] <pedrinho> vi sim
[01:38] <fernando> lancelot: here is the key: wget http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:38] <lancelot_rw> ok
[01:38] <pedrinho> essa aba e onde heim???
[01:38] <pedrinho> so mei noob nesse trem aki ainda
[01:38] <pedrinho> hehehe
[01:38] <fernando> lancelot: here is the repositories:
[01:38] <fernando> deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all
[01:38] <Jucato> pedrinho: English only please
[01:38] <lancelot_rw> i use dapper
[01:38] <fernando> deb-src http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas all
[01:38] <Gunirus> mray: okay, WPA, i can choose 6 different WPA thingsd
[01:38] <mray> Gunirus: ok so lets assume it is installed properly- how does it "not work" ?
[01:39] <mray> i guess you use the pre-shared Key (TKIP)
[01:39] <lancelot_rw> Jucato, i was just helping pedrinho to connect to a channel in PT-BR and register his nick
[01:39] <Gunirus> yes
[01:39] <Jucato> !pt
[01:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:39] <fernando> lancelot: and the library is: libdvdcss2 and w32
[01:39] <Gunirus> i want to connect ot my WEP network, i enter my WEP key, it tries to connect
[01:39] <akrus> zorglu_: nothing helps :x
[01:40] <fernando> lancelot_rw: did you get it???
[01:40] <Gunirus> and then it will halt
[01:40] <Gunirus> at 28%
[01:40] <pedrinho> lancelot_rw onde fika essa barra q vc flo??
[01:40] <mray> ok - are you sure the key is 100000% correct? (Upper and lowercase matters!!)
[01:40] <Alzi2> How to make a file open in a specified application by default?
[01:40] <Gunirus> yes
[01:40] <Gunirus> i pasted it :)
[01:41] <[-I-] 3poc> Alzi2: how many ways can you skin a cat?
[01:41] <mray> that is sometimes problematic - because you can paste spaces or something like that - dunno...
[01:41] <fernando> Alzi2: you have to see you file, then right click to see the pop menu and "open with"..
[01:42] <Gunirus> i checked it, double checked it, but it is correct
[01:42] <fernando> Alzi2: you have to mark the field : open always with this program after you the selection..that's all
[01:42] <mray> Gunirus: you can choose between 3 different WEPs right?
[01:42] <fernando> lancelot_rw: did you get it???
[01:42] <Gunirus> but WEP is  working with wlassistant
[01:42] <Alzi2> fernando: Thanks :)
[01:42] <Gunirus> and not in knetworkmanager
[01:42] <Alzi2> fernando: I did it with clicking properties and then the icon but that caused havoc.
[01:42] <mray> Gunirus: try chosing the ASCII
[01:42] <Gunirus> i'll try WEP
[01:42] <Gunirus> WPA*
[01:42] <Gunirus> ok
[01:42] <mray> WEP works fine with knetworkmanager, too.
[01:43] <Gunirus> not here :(
[01:43] <fernando> Alzi2: but isn't in properties.. is the menu "open with"
[01:43] <mray> Gunirus: but hey - if you want to stick with WEP keep using what already works!!
[01:43] <Alzi2> fernando: Hmm.. strange, i don't see that box.
[01:43] <Gunirus> mray: I'll tru WPA
[01:43] <Gunirus> try
[01:44] <Gunirus> WPA shared key?
[01:44] <mray> yes.
[01:44] <mray> Shared key : TKIP
[01:44] <lancelot_rw> fernando, oh man, sorry (girls calling me)... i'll try to download it later... now im going to a party :)
[01:44] <Gunirus> ok
[01:44] <mray> Gunrius and "WPA Personal"
[01:44] <fernando> lancelot: jajaja ok..have fun!!!
[01:44] <Alzi2> fernando: Hmm.. strange, i don't see that checkbox. What to do if it's not there?
[01:45] <fernando> Alzi2: can you see "open with"?
[01:45] <lancelot_rw> well guys... see ya later! ...
[01:45] <Alzi2> Yes
[01:45] <fernando> Alzi2: ok.. can you select the program??
[01:45] <Alzi2> And then, in that window, only "Open in terminal" is there, not the "always open"
[01:45] <fernando> Alzi2: yes..and is a field with: "remember the association with..blablababla
[01:45] <fernando> Alzi2: that you have to mark..
[01:45] <Alzi2> fernando: No.
[01:46] <Alzi2> fernando: It's not there.
[01:46] <fernando> Alzi2: are you using konqueror to display this menus??
[01:46] <Alzi2> fernando: Yes.
[01:46] <Gunirus> ok
[01:47] <Gunirus> wpa is enabled in my router configuration
[01:47] <fernando> Alzi2: try it on a terminal with "sudo konqueror"
[01:47] <Alzi2> I remember i saw the checkbox, though.. something must've made it show up. But now, i don't see it
[01:47] <Alzi2> hmm... i discovered that i don't see the checkbox on the SNES files (roms)
[01:47] <Alzi2> when won't it show up?
[01:48] <Alzi2> cuz on the text files, it does.
[01:48] <cavallo> what dc++ client can I use in *ubuntu ?
[01:48] <cavallo> is there anything like dc++ ? :)
[01:49] <zorglu_> cavallo: yes, there is but dont remember the name
[01:49] <Gunirus> mray: then, the knetworkmanager part?
[01:49] <zorglu_> !p2p | cavallo
[01:49] <fernando> Alzi2: but if the file doesnt have any association, if you make dobleclick on it.. automatically kubuntu will ask you for a program to associat
[01:49] <ubotu> cavallo: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[01:50] <Gunirus> I can choose WPA &2 Personal and WPA enterprise
[01:50] <mray> Gunirus: what about it?
[01:51] <mray> ah ok.
[01:51] <Alzi2> fernando: Yeah, and the strange thing is... on that filetype, the box DOESN'T show up.
[01:51] <mray> let me have a look...
[01:52] <mray> WPA2 is newer and harder to crack - don't know if your router understands it. try WPA2 - if it fails - try WPA1
[01:52] <Gunirus> Router supports wpa2
[01:52] <mray> ok great then use WPA2 :)
[01:52] <Gunirus> WPA2 preshared key only?
[01:52] <Gunirus> (router configuration)
[01:53] <mray> yes - that's the easiest way where you just set up a password on the router and enter the same on your machine.
[01:53] <Gunirus> done
[01:53] <mray> does it work?
[01:53] <Alzi2> fernando: Yeah, and the strange thing is... on that filetype, the box DOESN'T show up.
[01:53] <Gunirus> now knetworkmanager
[01:54] <Alzi2> Can anyone help me with that? I'm trying to set an application to open on a file with the extension .SMD, but when i do "open with.." it doesn't show up the "always open with this application" thing. Why doesn't it do that?
[01:54] <mray> does it find your network?
[01:54] <Gunirus> not working
[01:54] <mray> do you see your SSID ?
[01:54] <Gunirus> yes
[01:54] <fernando> Alzi2: make dobleclick on the file.. did you try that??
[01:55] <fernando> Alzi2: kubuntu will ask you for an application
[01:55] <Alzi2> fernando: Yeah, tried that.
[01:55] <cavallo> goshhh beryl realy p0wnz :) Very nice :)
[01:55] <mray> Gunirus: i had some issues with that, too - try adding it manually by choosing "Connect to other network....."
[01:56] <mray> cavallo: did you get it to run under KDE?
[01:56] <cavallo> mray: yes
[01:56] <cavallo> works liek a charm. Awesome
[01:56] <cavallo> like*
[01:56] <mray> cavallo: easy to set up?
[01:56] <cavallo> yeah.
[01:57] <cavallo> mray: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Nvidia.29
[01:57] <Gunirus> mray: it is not working
[01:58] <mray> Gunirus: you add a connection manually: -> enable encryption -> choose WPA Personal -> enter password -> WPA2 -> WPA protocol : TKIP
[01:59] <Gunirus> i tried that
[01:59] <mray> if thats not working maybe WPA1 does the trick?
[01:59] <Gunirus> it hangs at 28%
[01:59] <mray> you ahve to be patioent.
[01:59] <mray> *patient
[01:59] <Gunirus> mray: something like this : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305902
[01:59] <mray> it does not connect IMMEDIATELY
[02:00] <Gunirus> i KNOW :)
[02:01] <mray> hm over here it works like that. - i know that doesn't help you :P
[02:02] <mray> but you're not still running wlanassistant or something like it ?...
[02:10] <fernando> I have problem with skype.. I can see my friend online but If I cann't call....
[02:10] <fernando> anyone has the same problem??
[02:11] <fernando> I am usign the debian package
[02:12] <fernando> I have install skype, but I cann't call, I am using the debian package..any help???
[02:13] <Alzi2> Can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to set an application to open on a file with the extension .SMD, but when i do "open with.." it doesn't show up the "always open with this application" thing. Why doesn't it do that?
[02:14] <fernando>  I have install skype, but I cann't call, I am using the debian package..any help???
[02:17] <fernando>  I have install skype, but I cann't call, I am using the debian package..any help???
[02:17] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell fernando about repeat | fernando, see the private message from ubotu.
[02:22] <angasule> I did an update yesterday and now my nvidia card doesn't work, what packages should I reinstall for it to work again? I'm on the console
[02:23] <angasule> !nvidia
[02:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <fernando> angasule...
[02:25] <fernando> angasule: did you update the kernel??
[02:26] <angasule> fernando yes
[02:26] <Forge> hmmm wierd
[02:26] <Jucato> angasule: update/install the linux-restricted-modules that matches the new linux-image version
[02:26] <Jucato> angasule: if you're using the driver from nvidia.com, you need to run the installer again
[02:26] <fernando> angasule: I get the same problem with the new linux kernel release few days ago..
[02:26] <angasule> Jucato : I'm unsure what version it is
[02:27] <Jucato> angasule: uname -r
[02:27] <fernando> angasule: just make sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:27] <angasule> Jucato oh heh of course :)
[02:27] <fernando> angasule: the system will update the nvidia drivers if they are available
[02:28] <angasule> ok, gonna reboot, thanks :)
[02:29] <fernando> angasule: I am using the beta drivers for nvidia card and they work perfect even with BERYL
[02:29] <fernando> jucato: are you using skype??
[02:29] <Jucato> nope
[02:30] <angasule> that didn't work
[02:31] <Jucato> angasule: which driver are you using
[02:31] <Jucato> and what exactly didn't work?
[02:31] <angasule> Jucato X11 failed to init, I'm using the binary nvidia driver from the repo recommended for beryl
[02:32] <Alzi2> Really big problem here. Every time i try to make changes in the MIME database, it deletes the application/octet-stream entry! and then i have to create it manually again. how to solve this really annoying problem?
[02:32] <Jucato> angasule: oh... that's a problem then...
[02:33] <cavallo> angasule: try to reinstall nvidia drivers...
[02:33] <Jucato> angasule: if the recommendation is from the official Beryl guide, might want to ask in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects on what to do in case of kernel upgrades
[02:33] <angasule> ok, I'll go there, I hate BitchX :)
[02:35] <ladob> ola todos
[02:41] <ForgeAus> back
[02:41] <okay> bonjour
[02:42] <ForgeAus> :)
[02:42] <ForgeAus> well not sure what the problem was but it seems to have fixed itself
[02:45] <naser> what is the name of the package : for install source packages in ubuntu (gcc\c++)
[02:45] <naser> that include c++\gcc ***
[02:47] <ForgeAus> c++/gcc/g++ ... dev packages they're probably already installed
[02:48] <ForgeAus> much of linux gets compiled from that those
[02:48] <naser> i want to install packeg in my system but i have  a lot of problems what to do ??????????
[02:48] <ForgeAus> naser I'm pretty much as clueless as you
[02:48] <HymnToLife> ForgeAus, they're not installed by default in Ubuntu
[02:48] <ForgeAus> but first thing oyu need to know is... what kind of package
[02:48] <HymnToLife> !build-essential
[02:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:48] <ForgeAus> Hymn... thats wierd
[02:49] <HymnToLife> !away | racarr
[02:49] <ubotu> racarr: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:50] <larsivi> jhutchins: you here?
[02:50] <fernando> someone is using skype ???
[02:51] <larsivi> fernando: ye
[02:52] <fernando> larsivi: I have install the debian package but just doesnt work.. and more.. is stop my audio system..
[02:52] <fernando> larsivi: are you in edgy???
[02:52] <larsivi> fernando: hmm, worked out of the box for me
[02:52] <larsivi> yes, I use edgy
[02:52] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[02:52] <fernando> larsivi: how did you install it??
[02:53] <larsivi> fernando: using dpkg, I think
[02:53] <streather> hi can someone help me with installing the fglrx drivers properly?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> !installation
[02:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:53] <larsivi> have anyone installed kde debug symbols with 3.5.6 ?
[02:53] <fernando> atreather: I have install the fglrx driver.. what problem do you have?
[02:54] <rEvolution27> how do i configure Kk menu to show descriptions only?
[02:54] <fernando> streather: I have install the fglrx driver.. what problem do you have?
[02:54] <streather> i followed the guide on the ubuntu wiki and it doesn't seem to be installed properly
[02:55] <HymnToLife> rEvolution27, kcontrol, desktop, panels, menus
[02:55] <ForgeAus> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[02:55] <ForgeAus> (good place for instructions on how to install ATI drivers
[02:55] <ForgeAus> should work for kubuntu (just use kde alternatives)
[02:55] <johny_> hey guys does someone know why some movies freeze for a seconds using kaffeine
[02:55] <ForgeAus> ie adept instead of synaptic and kdesu instead of gksu
[02:56] <johny_> The same happens after writing "flrx_gears" ij console
[02:56] <fernando> streather: doesn't work properly? can you be more specific?
[02:56] <ForgeAus> seems to mention that kinda stuff on the site anyway
[02:57] <streather> well when i type fglrxinfo into the terminal window to check it comes up with
[02:57] <streather> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:57] <streather> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[02:58] <mackan> 001506
[02:58] <mackan> sjo d:
[02:58] <fernando> streather: do you have hardware acceleration??
[02:58] <ForgeAus> streather you need a symbolic link
[02:58] <ForgeAus> to where your dri directory is
[02:58] <rEvolution27> how do I configure K menu to show descriptions only? (sorry I got disconnected)
[02:59] <mackan> identify
[02:59] <ForgeAus> under X11 (not sure if its in /lib or /usr but X11r6 needs a link to where dri is installed to
[02:59] <ForgeAus> its probably there if you have flgrx drivers
[02:59] <RogueJediX> When I did apt-get update and upgrade the packages linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic have been held back. If I attempt to remove them, I don't break any dependencies. Does that mean I can remove them?
[02:59] <ForgeAus> I used krusader and copied it as a link
[03:00] <ForgeAus> so its not exactly missing just doesn't know the right place to look for it
[03:01] <streather> ok so all i have to do is tell it the right place to look for it?
[03:01] <ForgeAus> yeah by putting in a symbolic link
[03:01] <fernando> ForegeAus: may be you can help me..I have and notebook with an x700 ati radeon, I can run the fglrx drivers without problem but...
[03:01] <ForgeAus> find your dri directory (prolly under some x11 or x11r6 dir somewhere on your drive
[03:01] <ForgeAus> then make a link
[03:02] <fernando> ForgeAus: I want to install beryl and is always Beryl with xgl.. the problem is that Beryl always try to start AIGLX
[03:03] <ForgeAus> fernando I don't have beryl and I don't know how to get it working
[03:03] <streather> ok how would i go about making a link to the x11 directory?
[03:03] <fernando> ForgeAus: is ok.. but do you know how to install ati radeon drivers instead of flgrx???
[03:04] <ForgeAus> streather I'm not a great person to ask, like I said I did it in krusader
[03:04] <fernando> ForgeAus: I am right now in beryl, my problem is with the ati radeon for my notebook
[03:04] <ForgeAus> flgrx ARE the radeon drivers aren't they?
[03:04] <fernando> ForgeAus: not..they are diferent..
[03:04] <ForgeAus> mine is only AGP radeon 9600 All in 1 wonder
[03:04] <ForgeAus> x700 is higher tech! lol
[03:05] <BluesKaj> johny_, are you trying to install the binary ati driver ? then check this out : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-c966b2cb7c82944d6883f27a2896725db3b90a3a
[03:05] <ForgeAus> you got radeontool?
[03:05] <fernando> ForgeAous: no
[03:08] <bomber> dagnabbit
[03:19] <johny_> BluesKaj: I'm not trying to install nothing. Fglrx work and I'm using this driver
[03:20] <johny_> But the things that's strange is those movies freeze and so does the gears in the console
[03:21] <streather> sweet they're working now :D
[03:22] <streather> now to reinstall beryl (>_<)
[03:22] <BluesKaj> johny_, how much memory and what's yer cpu ?
[03:23] <ForgeAus> awesome streather, glad its working
[03:23] <yacoob> Greetings.
[03:23] <yacoob> Is there much hassle making firefox integrate smoothly with Kubuntu's KDE?
[03:24] <johny_> BluesKaj: it's not about memory, I've got 1gg of RAM and the halpf is free
[03:24] <larsivi> yacoob: it works fairly well
[03:24] <_6StringKng_> using firefox in kde is great
[03:24] <adaptr> 1 GigaGiggle ?
[03:24] <_6StringKng_> haven't had any prbobs so far
[03:24] <yacoob> larsivi, what I mean is, do I only need to install the package, or there's something more to muck about?
[03:24] <_6StringKng_> probs*
[03:24] <_6StringKng_> get it from adept update manager
[03:24] <larsivi> yacoob: shouldn't need anything more
[03:24] <johny_> BluesKaj: I guess it must be something in the kernel
[03:24] <larsivi> you'll even get a open in ff menu choice in konqui
[03:25] <larsivi> I find ff slow though, compared to konqui
[03:25] <yacoob> konqueror is amazingly fine for a browser not based on gecko
[03:25] <johny_> BluesKaj: There's the same with ATI proprietary driver (freeze)
[03:25] <yacoob> ...yet there are some things that it lacks, like firebug :))
[03:25] <larsivi> yacoob: I suppose that's why safari use the same core?
[03:26] <yacoob> oh, and konq is said to pass css3 selector test
[03:26] <larsivi> and nokia
[03:26] <yacoob> ...not that users care :)
[03:26] <ForgeAus> actually firefox doesn't really integrate with kde it just runs fine under it
[03:26] <malice007> hello, I typed su -l and now I can not do sudo.... I am very new and now I have no clue how to get this back so I can do sudo
[03:26] <larsivi> yacoob: the khtml team get to import most improvements apple make to safari, so it is becoming better very fast
[03:26] <ForgeAus> it tends to have a more GTK-style interface but works fine anyhow
[03:27] <mrcoool> does anyone know how you spell the term "kubuntu" ?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> johny_, what's the output when you do this command : fglrxinfo  ?
[03:28] <larson9999> i find konq+kde == just a little to close to win+ie
[03:28] <malice007> anyone?
[03:29] <larsivi> larson9999: I suppose there are similarities, but win+ie really falls down between the chairs in comparison
[03:29] <johny_> BluesKaj: thats the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5221/plain/
[03:29] <larson9999> larsivi: still a too close for me tastes.  as gnome is a little too close to the registry for my tastes :)
[03:30] <yacoob> larson9999, are you following "MUST BE DIFFERENT!" rule, while picking your tools? :D
[03:31] <zarephath> I don't see kget as an option...is there another repo that needs to be added other than those in synaptic?
[03:31] <BluesKaj> johny_, hmmm yer fgl_glxgears  should work in 3D and not freeze , as long as yer not running or burning something
[03:31] <malice007> Sorry I typed sudo -i and now I can not use it
[03:31] <malice007> How do I go back and fix this?
[03:31] <larson9999> yacoob: perhaps.  especially when it comes to the things i don't like. hate when those get copied.
[03:32] <erick> hi,all
[03:32] <larsivi> larson9999: I find konqui to be customizable enough for me - it happens that I fire up Krusader for file handling though
[03:32] <johny_> BluesKaj: it works fine ( all appears and moves ) but every 1 min it freezes for a second and then gets back
[03:33] <johny_> BluesKaj: The same happens with movies in all formats
[03:33] <johny_> BluesKaj: However in Mplayer this thing does'nt exist
[03:34] <larson9999> larsivi: it is. i'm just worried about the 'integratedness'.  but it's not that bad.
[03:34] <larsivi> larson9999: integratedness? in konqui?
[03:34] <SSJ_GZ> larson9999: What's wrong with integratedness?
[03:35] <tier> hallo ihr buben
[03:36] <malice007> can anyone help me with sudo -i?
[03:36] <malice007> anyone?
[03:36] <tier> hat irgend jemand den nerv sich mit der installation der proprieteren ati treiber zu helfen?
[03:36] <shinigami> !ndiswrapper
[03:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:36] <shinigami> what's ndiswrapper
[03:36] <LjL> !de | tier
[03:36] <ubotu> tier: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:36] <calinux> hi
[03:37] <calinux> its only eng language???
[03:37] <calinux> ci sono italiani ?
[03:37] <tier> has anybody the nerv to help my by install original ati driver for 9600/9700 mobility?
[03:37] <LjL> !it | calinux
[03:37] <ubotu> calinux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:38] <calinux> GRAZIE MILLE
[03:38] <calinux> ;)
[03:38] <calinux> !it
[03:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:38] <zarephath> malice007: What? If you run sudo -i then you become root period..what is your question?
[03:38] <tier> do you answer in chinese, too ubotu?
[03:38] <LjL> !cn
[03:38] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:39] <LjL> but
[03:39] <LjL> !msg the bot
[03:39] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:39] <tier> and mongololian, ubotu?
[03:40] <tier> and mongolian, ubotu?
[03:41] <tier> can anybody help me to install the proprietery ati driver?
[03:41] <larson9999> larsivi: yeah, that kde will become too dependent on konq.  i suppose many think it already is.
[03:42] <larson9999> SSJ_GZ: well, if it gets to the point where it's required a la ie and windows. that's a bad thing imo
[03:42] <Foofty> beryl isn't working =[
[03:43] <erick> hello everyone, is anyone can help me with ubuntu boot problem, a bit strange
[03:43] <larsivi> larson9999: fair enough, but the components that konq is built on are usable by all other (possibly not currently existing) applications too
[03:43] <Foofty> i've installed beryl-manager,beryl and emerald theme manager and also xserver-xorg-air
[03:43] <Foofty> and it isn't working
[03:43] <malice007> zar when I try to so anything it tell me su falied or something I can not seem to get su away and just do sudo.. when I type su in konsole I get
[03:43] <malice007> su: Authentication failure
[03:43] <malice007> Sorry.
[03:43] <Foofty> beryl loads on login but i have no window borders or effects etc
[03:43] <malice007> should I just reistall?
[03:43] <malice007> install even
[03:44] <malice007> I realy dont know what I did
[03:44] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell malice007 about root | malice007, see the private message from ubotu.
[03:44] <zhangwei> ok
[03:45] <malice007> sudo does not work
[03:45] <malice007> that is what I am telling you
[03:45] <malice007> I know about sudo
[03:45] <malice007> when I type sudo It bouces me back
[03:45] <fernando> I am try to modify the access to some folder with chmod, How can I give privilegies for a normal user with chmod???
[03:45] <malice007> does not ask for anything
[03:45] <malice007> and does not ask for anything
[03:45] <LjL> !permissions > fernando    (fernando, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:45] <malice007> password etc
[03:46] <malice007> sudo does nothing
[03:46] <malice007> none of the package mang work
[03:46] <malice007> just tells me something about su
[03:46] <larson9999> larsivi: for instance removing konq means i also have remove kdebase-dev.  that's going down the wrong road imo.
[03:46] <HymnToLife> malice007, you need to type sudo <command> to run a command as root
[03:46] <HymnToLife> if you want a root shell, do sudo -i
[03:46] <malice007> I get su returend with an error
[03:46] <malice007> I do type sudo and a command
[03:46] <zhangwei> ubuntu?
[03:46] <malice007> it does nothing
[03:47] <malice007> k
[03:47] <HymnToLife> do sudo -i instead of su
[03:47] <malice007> I dunno what I did
[03:47] <larsivi> larson9999: it's more like it always been that way, and someone (maybe you ;) needs to address it?
[03:47] <malice007> I believe I did sudo -i
[03:47] <malice007> after that all my problems
[03:47] <larsivi> anyway, anyone installed kde debug symbols on edgy for 3.5.6 ?
[03:47] <RogueJediX> Is there a window manager that integrates with KDE better than Beryl? Those dark grey menus don't do it for me
[03:48] <erick> is su - working, malice007?
[03:48] <malice007> su I get this
[03:48] <malice007> su: Authentication failure
[03:48] <malice007> Sorry.
[03:48] <HymnToLife> RogueJediX, KWin :)
[03:48] <HymnToLife> malice007, I told you not to run su !
[03:48] <RogueJediX> I think I should've rephrased that
[03:48] <erick> are u in the wheel group?
[03:48] <malice007> hymn no you did not I did that before I came in here :)
[03:49] <malice007> should I just reinstall?
[03:49] <malice007> its a fresh install
[03:49] <malice007> anyways
[03:49] <RogueJediX> Er, one that makes use of aiglx or xgl and such
[03:49] <HymnToLife> malice007, nope, just run sudo -i instead of su
[03:49] <malice007> ok hold
[03:49] <malice007> ok I did that
[03:50] <malice007> it asked me for my password when I typed a command and it did nothing
[03:50] <HymnToLife> type your password then :)
[03:50] <erick> malice007 ,u should input your root passwd
[03:50] <HymnToLife> erick, wrong
[03:50] <HymnToLife> it's the user password
[03:50] <erick> :s
[03:50] <HymnToLife> there is no root password by default in Ubuntu
[03:51] <malice007> when I open a package manager now I get su returned with an error
[03:51] <malice007> ?
[03:51] <HymnToLife> malice007, which pckage manager ?
[03:51] <malice007> I am using Kubuntu
[03:51] <malice007> yup
[03:51] <malice007> adept
[03:51] <erick> synaptic,most probably
[03:51] <HymnToLife> erick, Synaptic is in Gnome...
[03:51] <erick> sorry
[03:52] <HymnToLife> though I agree it's a million times better than Adept
[03:52] <tier> hello i now, i am noob nr. 1000000 questioning  about ati proprietary driver, but i need just a little help
[03:52] <HymnToLife> malice007, are you running Adept from the K Menu or from Konsole ?
[03:52] <erick> actually, i am using xfce :)
[03:52] <malice007> k menu
[03:52] <HymnToLife> you should be asked for your password in a popup then
[03:52] <HymnToLife> mark, _your_ password
[03:52] <malice007> nope just that error I tell you
[03:52] <HymnToLife> not root's or anyone else's
[03:53] <HymnToLife> hmm
[03:53] <malice007> I think I should just reinstall
[03:53] <malice007> :)
[03:53] <HymnToLife> that's weird
[03:53] <HymnToLife> try         kdesu adept
[03:53] <malice007> would ne easier
[03:53] <malice007> be
[03:53] <HymnToLife> in konsole
[03:53] <malice007> ok
[03:53] <tier> have any one a radeon 9600/9700 mobility?
[03:53] <erick> HymnToLife , can we have a private talk? a weird problem
[03:53] <HymnToLife> !anyone | tier
[03:53] <ubotu> tier: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:54] <HymnToLife> erick, sure
[03:54] <malice007> hymn it says wrong root password?
[03:54] <malice007> it pops up and wants a password
[03:54] <tier> sorry, i am not uset to english foren
[03:54] <malice007> I put in the only one I had
[03:54] <tier> this bot ist funny
[03:55] <malice007> kdesu adept
[03:55] <malice007> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:55] <HymnToLife> malice007, is the account you're using the one you created during ubuntu setup ?
[03:55] <malice007>   Major opcode:  145
[03:55] <malice007>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:55] <malice007>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:55] <HymnToLife> that's normal
[03:55] <malice007> Failed to open device
[03:55] <malice007> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:55] <malice007>   Major opcode:  145
[03:55] <malice007>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:55] <malice007>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:55] <malice007> Failed to open device
[03:55] <malice007> yes
[03:55] <HymnToLife> hmm
[03:56] <malice007> jsut when I put in a password i get errors or nothing
[03:56] <HymnToLife> are you running kdesu from a root shell ?
[03:56] <malice007> nope
[03:56] <malice007> fresh install
[03:56] <malice007> I was just trying to get java to work
[03:56] <malice007> using su
[03:56] <malice007> and this happend
[03:57] <tier> ati, just a little help?
[03:57] <erick> in my opinion, i feel it's only the root passwd work, anyway
[03:57] <HymnToLife> you most likely did something you shouldn't have
[03:57] <HymnToLife> you should stick with Ubuntu instructions for installing stuff until you're familiar enough with it
[03:58] <malice007> hymn I will just reinstall then :)
[03:58] <malice007> thanks for the help
[03:59] <erick> hymn, waiting for ur acknowledgement
[03:59] <erick> :)
[04:00] <shinigami> !dos2unix
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <HymnToLife> erick, what for ?
[04:00] <shinigami> how do i get dos2unix
[04:00] <LjL> !find dos2unix | shinigami
[04:00] <erick> i encounter a boot problem
[04:00] <ubotu> shinigami: File dos2unix found in tofrodos
[04:00] <shinigami> rofrodos?
[04:00] <shinigami> !tofrodos
[04:00] <ubotu> tofrodos: Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.6-2 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB
[04:00] <erick> as far as the kernel loaded(even on the rescue CD),the keyboard dead
[04:01] <shinigami> ok thanks sir
[04:01] <erick> i tried the rh9 rescue cd(busybox), it works fine
[04:01] <erick> i think it is nothing to do with a hardware or ps2 problem
[04:02] <erick> hymn,any hint?
[04:02] <HymnToLife> nope :/ (sorry, I'm helping out a friend with PYthon stuff so I'm quite busy atm)
[04:03] <erick> never mind, take your time
[04:03] <erick> :)
[04:03] <shinigami> !kwirelessmonitor
[04:03] <ubotu> kwirelessmonitor: wireless interface monitor for KDE systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.91-2build1 (edgy), package size 55 kB, installed size 280 kB
[04:03] <shinigami> where is the shortcut in edgy to kwirelessmonitor?
[04:05] <Danker> hi
[04:05] <Danker>  I am not english native, so could someone explain what does "Hun' " mean?
[04:06] <shinigami> !WEP
[04:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:06] <shinigami> my wep mode should be open system or shared key?
[04:07] <Alzi2> How to change the home page of konqueror? if i do it in the settings, it still shows the konqueror introduce thing
[04:08] <LjL> Alzi2: http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#HowdoIsetmyhomepagethepageloadedonstartup
[04:09] <craigevil> which version is more stable Dapper or Edgy?
[04:09] <larsivi> craigevil: imo, dapper
[04:09] <LjL> craigevil: people often say dapper is more stable
[04:09] <LjL> dapper is LTS anyway
[04:09] <LjL> !lts
[04:09] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:10] <erick> danker, hun means rude people
[04:10] <Alzi2> LjL: Long page name xD
[04:10] <craigevil> ok but does it also have newer packages like kde 3.5.6 available
[04:10] <Alzi2> ah... thanks :D
[04:10] <LjL> Alzi2: well it's not really a page name, the page name is  http://www.konqueror.org/faq/ - the # part simply tells the browser to go to the right parapgrah
[04:11] <shinigami> anyone have experience using linksys wmp54g wireless network card? goddamnit.. just couldn't get it connected to my wireless network
[04:13] <erick> LjL, have you ever heard of a bug such that when the kernel loaded, the keyboard died?
[04:14] <LjL> erick: i don't think. i know of a bug that makes the keyboard behave strangely. i've also had some people saying their keyboard doesn't work in Ubuntu, but i never could find the culprit
[04:14] <ubuntu_> hi ppl i need help..
[04:14] <ubuntu_> lol
[04:14] <ubuntu_> my grub boot loader is no longer there..
[04:14] <erick> unfortunately, i encounter the weird thing
[04:15] <ubuntu_> how can i restore it..im using kubuntu cd  right now
[04:15] <ubuntu_> 6.10 edgy .
[04:15] <erick> oops
[04:15] <ubuntu_> can someone help me pls:S
[04:15] <ubuntu_> i got a work to finish....
[04:15] <ubuntu_> im a noob in linux lOol
[04:16] <ubuntu_> ???
[04:16] <kozz> can you access the harddrive?
[04:16] <ubuntu_> no..
[04:16] <ubuntu_> only a usb disk
[04:17] <ubuntu_> but my work is not there.
[04:17] <ubuntu_> can i mount the disk from the cd ?/
[04:17] <ubuntu_> i cant even log in shell as root
[04:17] <ubuntu_> i dont know the default pass for that
[04:17] <kozz> yes
[04:18] <kozz> you need to use sudo
[04:18] <ubuntu_> how!
[04:18] <kozz> with no pass I think
[04:18] <ubuntu_> what pass ?
[04:18] <streather> ok i have a interesting new problem, i installed beryl and XGL and somethings gone wrong and now when i use xgl to sign in from the welcome screen i get a black screen with a X for a cursor and when i use kde to log in i get the wallpaper and cursor etc just no taskbar/menus/rightandleft click menu >.<
[04:18] <philippbieber> no password is needed when doing sudo su to get a root shell on a live cd
[04:18] <ForgeAus> if you don't have a root pass you shouldn't be using the system! (except perhaps as a user)...
[04:18] <LjL> indeed
[04:19] <craigevil> ubuntu_: do sudo mount -o dev,rw /media/hdxx where xx is the drive where your mbr is
[04:19] <LjL> though sudo -i is a better idea than sudo su anyway
[04:19] <ubuntu_> what is teh command to mount the disk ?
[04:19] <ForgeAus> streather
[04:19] <ubuntu_> but the thing is i want to fix the grub loader!!
[04:19] <ForgeAus> you installed beryl right?
[04:19] <streather> yep
[04:19] <ForgeAus> you need a window decorator
[04:19] <beryln00b> my usb devices aren't automounting
[04:19] <beryln00b> if i add them to fstab i can mount them
[04:19] <beryln00b> but i want them to mount when plugged in
[04:19] <kozz> ubuntu_: you need to enter your installation with chroot and then rewrite the boot loader with grub-install
[04:19] <ForgeAus> like aquamarine or emeryld
[04:20] <streather> emeralds installed
[04:20] <ForgeAus> hmmmm
[04:20] <ubuntu_> craigevil: im gonna try
[04:20] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure then
[04:20] <ubuntu_> craigevil: is that to fix the mbr ?
[04:20] <ubuntu_> or mount the disk!!
[04:21] <craigevil> that will let you mount the drive
[04:21] <streather> i can't even get a terminal window open atm >.<
[04:21] <ubuntu_> ah ok
[04:21] <kozz> ubuntu_: I don't know your device name but say it is called /dev/sda1, you need to mount /dev/sda somewhere. Like sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 and then run sudo chroot /media/sda1 and then run grub-install
[04:21] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /media/hdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:22] <kozz> ubuntu_: mount the filesystem, set that filesystem to your new root and then rewrite the boot loader
[04:22] <ubuntu_> thats what says when i try to mount the hdb1
[04:22] <craigevil> then do  sudo chroot -root-directory=/media/hdxx  /dev/hdx   where x is the correct drive letter+number
[04:22] <rEvolution27> how do i move my sytem tray? I messed it up and I want to move   it back to it's original position
[04:24] <ubuntu_> nothing happens:S
[04:24] <ubuntu_> im so fck............
[04:25] <ForgeAus> revolution try middleclick (if you got one) system settings ... and change your panel
[04:25] <ForgeAus> (its also known as kicker)
[04:25] <rEvolution27> yes but i can't move certain applets
[04:25] <rEvolution27> like the clock and system tray
[04:26] <ForgeAus> are the panels locked?
[04:26] <rEvolution27> i dunno
[04:26] <Jucato> rEvolution27: if you hover over the applets, you should see applet handles
[04:26] <Jucato> unless you turned those off
[04:26] <rEvolution27> err
[04:26] <ForgeAus> yeah Jucato locking turns them off
[04:26] <ForgeAus> the clock and taskbar have "grips" on the left when unlocked
[04:26] <rEvolution27> they aren't locked
[04:27] <Jucato> try right-click -> Unlock Panels if they're locked
[04:27] <cntb> hi
[04:27] <ForgeAus> some other panel applets too
[04:27] <rEvolution27> they aren't locked
[04:27] <cntb> monitor issue while delivering Pc to a different undetected monitor
[04:27] <ForgeAus> then there should be (to the left of them) a small vertical bar you can right click to move it
[04:27] <rEvolution27> if i right click on say k menu i can select move
[04:28] <Jucato> rEvolution27: right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance -> Advanced Options button -> set Applet handles to Fade Out or Visible
[04:28] <rEvolution27> but i dunno how to move the system tray
[04:28] <cntb> will <<<< sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange >>> work in a konsole or I must kill X on this PC to try it ?
[04:28] <rEvolution27> oh thanks jucato
[04:28] <ForgeAus> the system tray, the space directly to the left of it.. right click and it should say move system tray as an option
[04:28] <cntb> what is a quick terminal command in ctrl alt F1 to kill x
[04:29] <ubuntu_> craigevil: nothing happens!
[04:29] <Jucato> cntb: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:30] <cntb> easy in place of restart tyvm Jucato
[04:30] <Jucato> cntb: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart also
[04:31] <nodesert> how can i log out with using console?
[04:32] <Jucato> K Menu -> Logout ?
[04:32] <ForgeAus> shutdown now -r will reset, um logout just use logout...
[04:32] <ForgeAus> I thikn
[04:33] <craigevil> exit
[04:33] <ForgeAus> um not sure if that logs out of kde tho
[04:33] <Jucato> be careful w/ using shutdown commands while KDE is still running, as it does not start the proper session-related events/processes for shutting down
[04:34] <ForgeAus> oh ok... didn't know that
[04:34] <_6StringKng_> anyone know why Kubuntu doesn't want to shutdown or restart properly sometimes?
[04:34] <rEvolution27> ok now... how do I set k menu to show only item descriptions?
[04:35] <gihef> Hello
[04:35] <ForgeAus> rev not sure you can
[04:35] <Jucato> rEvolution27: right-click, Configure Panel -> Menus
[04:35] <rEvolution27> crap... i could do it in gnome
[04:35] <Jucato> yes you can
[04:35] <Jucato> choices are: Name only, Name Description, Description (Name), and Description only
[04:35] <rEvolution27> where in the menu editor?
[04:36] <Jucato> no
[04:36] <_6StringKng_> k, anyone know why Kubuntu doesn't shut down properly sometimes, nor restart...
[04:36] <_6StringKng_> ????
[04:36] <ForgeAus> not menu editor
[04:36] <Jucato> right-click panel -> Configure Panel -> Menu
[04:36] <Jucato> rEvolution27:
[04:36] <ForgeAus> panel configuration
[04:36] <ForgeAus> (menu applet)
[04:36] <rEvolution27> ok
[04:36] <Jucato> saw it?
[04:36] <rEvolution27> yeh... thank you sooo much
[04:37] <Jucato> ok. now I can logout...
[04:37] <Jucato> brb
[04:37] <_6StringKng_> .....anyone
[04:37] <gihef> May I ask a question ?
[04:37] <_6StringKng_> bout the whole Kubuntu not wanting to shutdown or restart properly half the time
[04:37] <_6StringKng_> just ask it
[04:37] <_6StringKng_> doubt I could help though
[04:37] <_6StringKng_> lol
[04:37] <gihef> _6String Kng , i don't have this problem
[04:38] <gihef> you should take a look at your logs
[04:38] <_6StringKng_> well its not all the time
[04:38] <_6StringKng_> and how do I look at my logs?
[04:39] <gihef> I am trying to " share " a mysql db between two distros : edubuntu drake and kubuntu eft
[04:39] <gihef> anyone ?
[04:39] <gihef> browse in your filesystem to /var/log
[04:39] <kozz> _6StringKng_: are you using fglrx?
[04:40] <ForgeAus> um does mysql allow you to connect to it?
[04:40] <ForgeAus> run one and connect to it from the other? (if you run them simultaneously)
[04:40] <_6StringKng_> yes
[04:41] <gihef> I do not run them simultaneously
[04:41] <kozz> _6StringKng_: that might very well be the problem, also had problem with shutting down sometimes on my laptop while using fglrx, with the radeon driver it works every time
[04:41] <ForgeAus> um then do you mount one from the other?
[04:41] <gihef> the first time i changed the datadir of mysql to the /var/lib/mysql of my other partition i got something with diskspace
[04:41] <gihef> yes
[04:41] <_6StringKng_> k
[04:42] <kozz> _6StringKng_: fglrx is a bit buggy unforntunately
[04:42] <_6StringKng_> yeah
[04:42] <_6StringKng_> whats the differences between the two? one better than the other?
[04:42] <ForgeAus> well why can't you import/open from a mount?
[04:42] <gihef> then i changed the rights to let anyone access the directory
[04:43] <mey> hola los canales espaol?
[04:43] <gihef> and now, it doesn't seem to start
[04:43] <gihef> /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:43] <gihef>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld
[04:43] <kozz> _6StringKng_: fglrx is developed by ATI and just released as a binary while the radeon driver in xorg is open. Performance wise fglrx is much better than radeon however
[04:43] <mey> hola
[04:43] <mey> espaa canale s?
[04:43] <_6StringKng_> k, thanks
[04:44] <mey> hola algien hbla mi idioma
[04:45] <_6StringKng_> well I found what might possibly be a fix for the shutdown/restart probs on a forums, supposed to add acpi=force to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst file, maybe that might work
[04:45] <abattoir> !es | mey
[04:45] <ubotu> mey: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:46] <gihef> ForgeAus, I don't want to import, but use the same db with whatever version of ubuntu i start
[04:46] <slyfox> How can I play quicktime ?
[04:46] <mey> abattoir:  mersy cenksss
[04:46] <BluesKaj> mplayer
[04:46] <abattoir> slyfox: you need to install codecs
[04:46] <abattoir> !codecs | slyfox
[04:46] <ubotu> slyfox: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <BluesKaj> !mplayer
[04:46] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:46] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:46] <gihef> the username and groups of my mounted partition does not appear correclty, i only see numbers
[04:46] <slyfox> BluesKaj: is there an easy way to isntall mplayer ?
[04:47] <ForgeAus> well mysql command is proably a binary to start the features of mysql not the actual database, the program itself...
[04:47] <ForgeAus> so changing the permissions for the program probably isn't a good idea
[04:47] <streather> is there a keyboard shortcut for the pacakage manager for kubuntu or something?
[04:48] <abattoir> streather: you can create one if you want...
[04:48] <_6StringKng_> could someone help me with Beryl????
[04:48] <_6StringKng_> was thinking about installing iut
[04:48] <_6StringKng_> it*
[04:48] <abattoir> streather: Kcontrol->Regional and Accessibility->Keyboard shortcuts should be it
[04:48] <BluesKaj> _6StringKng_, /join #beryl
[04:48] <abattoir> !beryl | _6StringKng_
[04:49] <ubotu> _6StringKng_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:49] <streather> abattoir i don't have any controls what so ever, all i can do atm is open a help window and use that window to open firefox >_<
[04:49] <abattoir> streather: try Alt+F2 and type adept_manager in that dialog
[04:50] <abattoir> streather: what do you mean? you don't have access to the menu?
[04:50] <streather> i mean kde isn't working what so ever
[04:50] <streather> when i log in all i get is background and a cursor
[04:51] <larsivi> streather: there seems to be several issues with input - and it may be an upgrade problem - did you upgrade to kde 3.5.6 ?
[04:52] <streather> i did
[04:52] <larsivi> streather: I had similar problems yesterday, but was able to "fix" it by clearing my user's .kde/share/config directory
[04:53] <larsivi> I copied back some of the files afterwards, but I didn't figure exactly which file(s) were at fault
[04:53] <gihef> ForgeAus , Do you have any idea what I should do then ?
[04:53] <BluesKaj> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type, : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:54] <Jucato> !xconfig
[04:54] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[04:54] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[04:54] <ubotu> pong
[04:54] <BluesKaj> To configure only the driver and resolution, type : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[04:54] <BluesKaj> 
[04:54] <ForgeAus> gihef find where mysql stores its databases (the datafiles not the program ones)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> then import/open them
[04:55] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[04:56] <heya0007> have anyone here used C72 Siemens Mobile Phone on linux?
[04:57] <xenol> where in konqueror can i set that it wont log what i have searched in google or when i am logging somewhere plz
[04:58] <heya0007>  hey, i need to install a usb cable to comunicate with my C72 mobile phone (siemens), can you guys help me? what kernel modules should i load?
[04:59] <_6StringKng_> how do I find new themes for kde?
[04:59] <xenol> _6StringKng_:  www.kde-look.org
[04:59] <_6StringKng_> alright, know that, shoudl have said, how do I install them?
[04:59] <tier> hello, the proprietary ati driver seems not to work for ati mobility 9600/9700 m10
[05:00] <tier> anyone with a ati 9600/9700 ?
[05:01] <streather> ok i can't open a terminal window with the alt +f2 shortcut and i cant get into the kde directory :(
[05:01] <streather> if i have to reinstall again im going to have a nervous breakdown or something
[05:02] <BluesKaj> xenol, look in config konqueror/history sidebar/clear history
[05:02] <larsivi> streather: Are you able to logout using the kmenu ?
[05:02] <streather> nope
[05:02] <xenol> Blue thx
[05:02] <larsivi> streather: nothing at all?
[05:03] <xenol> BluesKaj: didnt helped
[05:03] <streather> nothing what so ever lol
[05:03] <drkm> once I've installed a theme, where do I go to turn it on (where in settings?)
[05:03] <larsivi> streather: if you reboot, do you get the login screen normally? then you can choose console login instead of logging in normally
[05:04] <streather> yeah if i reboot i get the login screen normally its just after logging in everything goes mad >.<
[05:05] <larsivi> streather: same as I had
[05:05] <BluesKaj> xenol, strange ...din't work for me either ..WTH ?
[05:05] <larsivi> streather: do a console login
[05:05] <streather> aight
[05:05] <streather> then remove everything in the kde directory?
[05:06] <larsivi> streather: no, just mv /home/youruser/.kde/share/config to oldconfig or something
[05:06] <xenol> BluesKaj:  hmm dunno i am thinking about it now do u know wat i mean? i just want to remove  phrase offers
[05:06] <larsivi> the rest wasn't a problem for me
[05:06] <heya0007> anyone here download pictures from siemens mobile phones on linux?
[05:06] <streather> aight
[05:06] <streather> back shortly
[05:07] <larsivi> streather: if you have done any setup at all, you will most likely want to keep some of those config files around (to copy them back)
[05:07] <BluesKaj> I'm not worried about my surfing history so it's not a big deal to me :)
[05:08] <xenol> well me neither
[05:08] <hatta> I'm worried about your surfing history
[05:09] <xenol> hatta:  then how u remove that browser is offerng u phrases u mentioned? =)
[05:10] <hatta> I think you turn off browser.search.suggest.enabled in about:config
[05:12] <xenol> hatta:  not possible in konqueror :/
[05:12] <hatta> oh heh
[05:12] <hatta> don't use it
[05:13] <xenol> hatta: konqueror rox :D
[05:13] <hatta> maybe a little
[05:13] <hatta> I do like that you can detach tabs
[05:13] <hatta> I generally use krusader for file browsing though
[05:15] <xenol> hatta: right-click on location bar -> completion mode -> none in konqueror
[05:16] <larsivi> hatta: if you click on the G in konqui, you can set up Google Suggest
[05:17] <hatta> heh, I don't want google suggest
[05:17] <larsivi> hatta: so set it to never ;)
[05:17] <hatta> I don't use konqueror
[05:17] <hatta> lol
[05:18] <larsivi> oh, who asked then? :P
[05:18] <hatta> xenol
[05:18] <naser> hello
[05:18] <drkm> how do I install KDE headers with apt-get?
[05:18] <BluesKaj> xenol, Firefox is a better browser than konq anyway
[05:18] <larsivi> BluesKaj: of course not ;)
[05:18] <naser> i want to use open-gl in linux how ???????????
[05:19] <xenol> yeah it true btw if i install FF from repo will it  have that awful blue icon or traditional like in win?
[05:19] <BluesKaj> well larsivi , it is from my POV
[05:19] <BluesKaj> :)
[05:19] <cntb> is it permissible to << sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange >>> while in X ?
[05:19] <drkm> how do I install KDE headers with apt-get?
[05:19] <simone_> but you are english
[05:19] <cntb> naser specify graphic card lps
[05:19] <cntb> pls
[05:20] <simone_> ohohohoh
[05:20] <drkm> how do I install KDE headers with apt-get?
[05:21] <simone_> just do
[05:21] <naser> what is the software of open-gl
[05:21] <naser> ??????????
[05:21] <zorglu_> !info kde-devel
[05:21] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:21] <zorglu_> drkm: i think this should do it
[05:21] <simone_> c' un italiano?
[05:22] <zorglu_> !it | simone_
[05:22] <ubotu> simone_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:22] <simone_> ah nn lo sapevo
[05:22] <naser> ??????????
[05:22] <simone_> where are you from?
[05:23] <zorglu_> naser: overponctuation
[05:23] <simone_> wow
[05:24] <zorglu_> drkm: kde-devel-extras may be of interest too, but i dunno what it is exactly
[05:24] <zorglu_> !info kde-devel-extras
[05:24] <ubotu> kde-devel-extras: extra development applications for use with KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:49 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:24] <NotSure> is there a good kde app to listen to internet radio stations?
[05:25] <zorglu_> !player
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <cntb> !aixgl
[05:25] <zorglu_> NotSure: try amarok
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <xenol> !kradio
[05:25] <simone_> no there aren't
[05:25] <ubotu> kradio: Comfortable Radio Application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1beta1.0snapshot20051127-2 (edgy), package size 1713 kB, installed size 8616 kB
[05:25] <NotSure> thanks zorglu_
[05:25] <xenol> NotSure: u can try kradio but amarok is way much better
[05:26] <NotSure> trying it now
[05:27] <drkm> zorglu: it said the following when I tried to install kde-devel
[05:27] <drkm> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:27] <drkm>  kde-devel: Depends: kde-core (>= 5:47) but it is not installable
[05:27] <drkm> etc
[05:27] <drkm> what do I need to do?
[05:27] <zorglu_> drkm: you did a 'apt-get update' ?
[05:28] <drkm> I did apt-get install
[05:28] <drkm> should I be doing update?
[05:28] <zorglu_> drkm: yep, you are out of sync with the repository
[05:28] <zorglu_> drkm: do 'apt-get update' to be insync
[05:29] <zorglu_> drkm: then do the 'apt-get install kde-devel' again
[05:29] <zorglu_> !info kde-core
[05:29] <ubotu> kde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:29] <xenol> wat is better for html creation? nvu bluefish or Q+ :
[05:29] <xenol> ?
[05:29] <cntb> q. can I  <<<< sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange >>> while in X ?
[05:29] <zorglu_> drkm: 5.47 is present
[05:29] <zorglu_> xenol: there are no answer to that. try them and see for yourself
[05:30] <cntb> bbl switching to konversation , shows clearly personally addresed answers better than GAIM
[05:30] <drkm> zor: update sticks on 99%?
[05:30] <zorglu_> drkm: hmm seems like a repository is slow... or frozen
[05:30] <zorglu_> drkm: should not happen
[05:30] <zorglu_> drkm: do you know the one having trouble ?
[05:31] <drkm> zorglu_: not sure.. how can I tell?
[05:31] <zorglu_> drkm: i know no simple way...
[05:31] <zorglu_> drkm: ok close the update and redo update
[05:32] <drkm> ok I'll try again
[05:32] <zorglu_> only the troublesome should do work, so easier to identify... perhaps
[05:32] <drkm> zorglu_: ahh I know the one that isn't working.. I'll remove it.. its a shit one I added
[05:32] <zorglu_> cool :)
[05:32] <drkm> shit, what file do you remove it from? I forgot the location
[05:33] <zorglu_> drkm: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <zorglu_> drkm: btw no need to say 'shit' all the time :)
[05:35] <drkm> shit, really? ;)
[05:35] <zorglu_> :)
[05:35] <drkm> damn, it's not the one I thought it was
[05:35] <drkm> it's still sticking on 99%
[05:35] <drkm> does it ever time out?
[05:35] <zorglu_> drkm: dunno, i dont think so
[05:36] <zorglu_> drkm: ok try again the apt-get install kde-devel
[05:36] <zorglu_> drkm: maybe the repository which matter got updated.
[05:36] <zorglu_> but you need to get a proper sources.list
[05:37] <drkm> wana give me yours?
[05:37] <zorglu_> i have a better solution
[05:37] <zorglu_> !source
[05:37] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:37] <zorglu_> yuck
[05:38] <zorglu_> this one is no good
[05:38] <drkm> think it might be easier to get a working sources.list
[05:38] <drkm> hmm can you send me yours?
[05:38] <zorglu_> well i could but transfering over the internet is hard
[05:38] <BluesKaj> zorglu_, http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[05:39] <zorglu_> there is a tool in ubuntu.nl to generate one
[05:39] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: what is the url for the generation of a new one. on ubuntu.nl ?
[05:40] <zorglu_> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ <- there!!! drkm
[05:40] <zorglu_> try this one
[05:40] <drkm> ok thanks, let me have a look
[05:40] <BluesKaj> !nl
[05:40] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[05:41] <BluesKaj> they should know where to look in #ubuntu-nl
[05:41] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: i bet you just arrived and did not follow the whole discussion, correct ? :)
[05:42] <joaospinto> hello guys
[05:42] <joaospinto> how can i install fluxbox on Kubuntu
[05:42] <alan__> hola alguien de lima per???
[05:42] <joaospinto> when i ./configure i get an error
[05:42] <carsten> Moin
[05:42] <alan__> o q sepa hablar espaol
[05:42] <zorglu_> !es | alan__
[05:42] <ubotu> alan__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:43] <carsten> I need to know where KMail stores its outbox. It seems that it is not in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/outbox/
[05:43] <zorglu_> carsten: /var/spool/mail ?
[05:44] <BluesKaj> zorglu_, I'm saying you can prolly find a dutch sources list from the ppl at #ubuntu-nl ..ok ?
[05:44] <zorglu_> hmm outbox ?
[05:44] <zorglu_> so /var/spool/mail may not be the place
[05:44] <carsten> zorglu_: yeah, we have a kmail with a mail in the outbox. kamil crashes when I access the outbox so I have to rm the file by hand
[05:45] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: ok there is a misundersting
[05:45] <carsten> zorglu_: the problem is that I have no physical access to the machine, not even via ssh
[05:45] <itzikt>   ?
[05:45] <itzikt>   ?
[05:45] <zorglu_> carsten: how do you expect to rm a file without physical access or ssgh ?
[05:45] <Skrot-> !il
[05:45] <ubotu>         :
[05:45] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[05:46] <carsten> zorglu_: my sister-in-law sits at the machine, zorglu_
[05:46] <cavallo> lol
[05:46] <carsten> but she has no clue whatso ever about filesystems, so I am "teletyping" via Jabber :)
[05:46] <mattias> Anyone knows how i burn a DVD-image in .img format using Kubuntu? Thanks in advance...
[05:46] <zorglu_> carsten: any chance to get her to install ssh ? :)
[05:46] <carsten> she behind a firewall which she cannot administer
[05:46] <zorglu_> carsten: about the outbox location i dunno
[05:47] <Skrot-> mattias: Think you can do it with k3b
[05:47] <mattias> ok
[05:47] <zorglu_> carsten: and i dont use kmail so i cant give you the location on my box
[05:47] <BluesKaj> Thunderbird FTW ...easier to config
[05:47] <carsten> Anyone else here using KMail?
[05:48] <samiam010203> yes i use kmail actualy kontact
[05:48] <carsten> samiam010203: can you tell me where the file is located?
[05:48] <carsten> s/file/outbox
[05:48] <_6StringKng_> hwo do I use webcams with Kubuntu 6.10?
[05:48] <BluesKaj> KMail sucks ...way too difficult to configure and it's complicated and clunky...beyond me why ppl use it
[05:49] <samiam010203> where what file is located
[05:49] <_6StringKng_> use thunderbird
[05:49] <zorglu_> carsten: you have to drive him on how to find the file
[05:49] <itzikt> hello to everybody
[05:49] <samiam010203> what file is he looking for i just showed up
[05:50] <zorglu_> samiam010203: the outbox file where all the emails sent are stored by kmail
[05:50] <carsten> zorglu_: it is usually in ~./kde/...
[05:50] <samiam010203> ok let me go look
[05:50] <zorglu_> carsten: not me, him :)
[05:50] <itzikt> i didnt sucsses to install firefox in kubuntu
[05:50] <itzikt> who is can to help me?
[05:50] <itzikt> in private chat please
[05:50] <_6StringKng_> how can I use webcams in kubuntu?
[05:51] <_6StringKng_> what do I need to use them?
[05:51] <zorglu_> !webcam
[05:51] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:51] <carsten> zorglu_: yeah, the problem is that that directory doesn't exist on her machine
[05:52] <mattias> !taskmanager
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about taskmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <samiam010203> .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/outbox/cur
[05:53] <mattias> how do i terminate the firefox process, it seems like it's locked...
[05:53] <zorglu_> mattias: there is a 'taskmanager' on ubuntu too, i dont remember the name tho :)
[05:54] <zorglu_> mattias: 'ksysguard' but i dunno if it has been renamed
[05:54] <zorglu_> mattias: or 'killall firefox-bin' in a konsole :)
[05:54] <mattias> ok
[05:55] <mattias> :)
[05:56] <zorglu_> mattias: yep, kmenu -> system -> performance monitor (ksysguard)
[05:56] <zorglu_> there is an applet for that too
[05:56] <samiam010203> just do an ctrl+esc
[05:57] <mattias> ok, i'm used to ctrl alt del :P
[05:58] <zorglu_> so much simpler when you know the magic key stroke :)
[05:58] <_6StringKng_> !webcam
[05:58] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:59] <dromer> I need a script se this will happen everytime I log into ubuntu: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/security.html
[05:59] <dromer> the server needs to do $ synergys  and the client needs- to open an ssh connection with the server and restart on localhost
[05:59] <dromer> can I automate this properly? and how?
[05:59] <samiam010203> anyone in here using feisty kubuntu and having samba problems?
[06:02] <alfatau> hello, is there a way to find which is the fastest mirror for kubuntu apt sources? i've a good connection but i tried 4-5 mirrors and i never had been able to download faster then 30kb/sec...
[06:02] <carsten> ok, fixed the issue
[06:03] <dromer> alfatau: hmm, that's not very fast ..
[06:05] <alfatau> dromer: for example... i've another machine with debian sarge installed, and i used http://debian.fastweb.it for apt sources. i can upgrade and install packages at 600kb/sec!! a little difference... don't you?
[06:05] <cavallo> is there any program which one is recording a screen ?
[06:06] <dromer> alfatau: yeah!
[06:06] <alfatau> dromer: no automatic mirror chooser available?
[06:06] <dromer> I think on my debian server I hav e a direct mirror on surfnet (my isp), which gives my like 10-100mbit connection :] 
[06:06] <dromer> alfatau: not that I know of ..
[06:07] <jhutchins> alfatau: Yes, take the mirrorselect script from Gento and modify it to use the ubuntu mirrors.
[06:07] <alfatau> jhutchins: where to get mirrorselect? gentoo.org?
[06:08] <jhutchins> alfatau: iirc, yes, or search google, sourceforge for it.  It might actually be a debian script originally.
[06:08] <jhutchins> Tests either connect or small download, returns selected number of mirrors w/ speeds.
[06:08] <jhutchins> Requires a list of all mirrors to be tested and a little hacking.
[06:09] <tier> where is the ati god who lend me some help installing proprietary ati driver on a rv350 ????
[06:09] <mattias> !image
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <mattias> !img
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about img - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <tier> i have done all the howtos
[06:10] <tier> i hate sony
[06:11] <tier> is there a ubuntu notobook forum?
[06:11] <tier> !notebook
[06:11] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[06:11] <tier> i like this bot
[06:11] <jhutchins> mattias: What are you looking for the iso's?
[06:12] <vlt|home> Hello. There was an update to the package linux-image recently. Where can I find information what has been changed in that latest kernel (security) update?
[06:13] <jhutchins> vlt|home: There's always a changelog included, although I'm not sure where ubuntu puts it.
[06:13] <jhutchins> vlt|home: There were known issues with a recent update.
[06:13] <jhutchins> Which reminds me, need to clean up old kernels on another box...
[06:13] <vlt|home> jhutchins: Thank you. I only want to know how urgently I have to reboot.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> yea - id wait to update for a few days.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i hear stuff has been fixed... but... :)
[06:15] <tier> join #ubuntu-laptop
[06:16] <BluesKaj> mattias , try renaming the file to .iso ... see if that works
[06:17] <BluesKaj> I renamed some nero made .nrg files to .iso , which are supposed to be iso clones and it worked fine
[06:18] <cavallo> is there any program which one is recording a screen ?
[06:18] <mattias> BluesKaj: ok
[06:20] <cavallo> anybody ? :)
[06:21] <zblach> anyone have time for a quick LaTeX question?
[06:21] <zblach> cavallo: continuous movie style? or screenshot?
[06:22] <cavallo> continuous movie style
[06:22] <Alllex> Hey, I'm running Kubuntu 6.10 at the moment- what folder would contain the Linux source?
[06:22] <hatta> /usr/src
[06:23] <jhutchins> Alllex: That is if you installed it.
[06:23] <Alllex> Thanks
[06:23] <hatta> if you installed the source package
[06:23] <hatta> it'll be a tar.gz in there
[06:23] <BluesKaj> cavallo what are you trying to record ?
[06:23] <andre> hey guys, I've got an issue with the nvidia binaries,  everytime I reboot I have to reinstall the driver... anyone know how to fix this?  I know that it is a known bug.
[06:23] <mattias> btw, how do i install a tar.bz2 file?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> mattias,  in short you DONT.
[06:23] <mattias> ok...
[06:23] <Dr_willis> you uncompress the thing and figure ouyt to do whith whats IN it.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:24] <mattias> :)
[06:24] <cavallo> BluesKaj: I want to make some reviews of beryl ...
[06:24] <Dr_willis> tar xjvf whatever.tar.bz2
[06:24] <mattias> ok
[06:25] <BluesKaj> mattias, tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2 , then look at the readme in the folder that is generated and the install instructions will be there.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> !unp
[06:25] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:26] <BluesKaj> sorry cavallo , i don't understand what you mean
[06:26] <cavallo> ?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Hes doing a review site/artical on beryl
[06:26] <Dr_willis> and watns some recordings/clips of the silly eye candy.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <Dr_willis> I THink.
[06:27] <cavallo> Dr_willis: BINGO! :)
[06:27] <BluesKaj> unp eh ..cool , but does it install as well ?
[06:27] <cavallo> who ?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> unp does what it says.. Unpacks... :)
[06:27] <madar> !nvidia
[06:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <jhutchins> mattias: Generally, you want to avoid installing from tarballs, as it's not tracked by the package database.  There's no guarantee that you'll ever be able to un-install the package.
[06:29] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: Isn't there a factoid on that?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> avoide installing stuff from 'source' :)
[06:29] <jhutchins> How hard is it to learn to build your own debs?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> but who ever listens  to the warnings....
[06:29] <madar> anyone out there dealing with this on a recent upgrade
[06:29] <madar> nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9742
[06:30] <Dr_willis> when i install from source - i try to be sure things install to /usr/local
[06:33] <BluesKaj>  /etc/bash.bashrc: line 59: syntax error: unexpected end of file ....there is no line 59 !
[06:34] <seppel> nabend
[06:36] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you got quoting issues i bet
[06:36] <Dr_willis> not closed quotes
[06:36] <Dr_willis> or () issues
[06:37] <alex_>        LINUX?     -?  ?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, are quotes allowed ?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> !rs
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <BluesKaj> !ru
[06:38] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:39] <_6StringKng_> anyone know why my webcams average fps is around 4 in kubuntu, lmao
[06:39] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, there are quotes around one command , should i edit them out ?
[06:40] <_Snatch_> hi
[06:40] <juka> please help
[06:41] <juka> for two days i've been trying to install the nvidia display driver
[06:41] <juka> it just doesn't seem to want to install
[06:41] <_Snatch_> wow
[06:41] <juka> i always get the "shut down x server"
[06:41] <juka> but i really don't know how........
[06:41] <_Snatch_> ... dunno, i have ati
[06:42] <juka> seems i have to get into root
[06:42] <juka> do you know how to get there, but without using GUI?
[06:42] <jhutchins> juka: do you need to shut x down, or just restart it?
[06:42] <quentin> hi
[06:42] <quentin> :)
[06:42] <juka> shut it down
[06:42] <jhutchins> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:43] <gesslar>  /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:43] <juka> and if i figured it out correctly, that means i have to get out of GUI.......
[06:43] <gesslar> err, with a sudo
[06:43] <_6StringKng_> my cousin was having trouble with them too
[06:43] <juka> lemme try it
[06:43] <_Snatch_> can someone tell me how to install beryl/XGL on kubuntu
[06:43] <_Snatch_> can someone tell me how to install beryl/XGL on kubuntu
[06:43] <gesslar> i have a link for you
[06:43] <sampan> !beryl
[06:43] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:43] <_Snatch_> thanks!!!!
[06:43] <gesslar> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[06:43] <juka> also
[06:44] <juka> how do I return to GUI after pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[06:44] <gesslar> Ctrl-Alt-F7
[06:44] <juka> and how do i log in as root when in c+a+F1?
[06:44] <juka> :/
[06:44] <juka> thnx
[06:44] <gesslar> log in as your user
[06:44] <gesslar> then su
[06:46] <ubuntu_> plz it is possible to install software on live cd?
[06:47] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Sometimes/it depends.
[06:47] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: THink about where it would install _to_.
[06:48] <jhutchins> juka: He means use sudo, su won't work.
[06:48] <juka> yeah
[06:48] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  i want to try out beryl on livecd without messing up my kubuntu on disk soo could i damage smth with system if i install drivers and beryl on live cd?
[06:48] <juka> i figured :/
[06:48] <juka> so I'm logged in with my account, but, whatever I want to do as "root" i use "sudo" before?
[06:48] <juka> before the command i wanna use
[06:48] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: I think beryl is too big to install running the live CD.  You could rebuild the live CD so it uses beryl.
[06:49] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Consider the fact that beryl is very alpha software, usually broken.
[06:49] <jhutchins> juka: Yes.
[06:49] <jhutchins> !sudo | juka
[06:49] <ubotu> juka: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:50] <ubuntu_> jhutchins: so xgl wat is  that crap called
[06:51] <_Snatch_> !sources.list
[06:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:51] <_Snatch_> how do i get admin access to sources.list
[06:51] <_Snatch_> ??
[06:52] <juano__> how can i open a torrent with another torrent client resuming whats already been downloaded with the old client ?
[06:52] <_Snatch_> how do i get admin access to sources.list
[06:52] <_Snatch_> ??
[06:52] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: beryl. formerly novel/suse's compiz.
[06:52] <AmazingRuss> just start your same torrent file
[06:52] <AmazingRuss> it should resume
[06:52] <AmazingRuss> snatch: sudo nano /etc/sources.lust
[06:53] <_Snatch_> thnx!!!!
[06:53] <AmazingRuss> np
[06:53] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  without rebuilding livecd can i install it?
[06:54] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: You can certainly try.
[06:54] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  but nothing will mess up
[06:54] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  with system?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> changing torrent clients - however. may need to set where the downloads are at.
[06:55] <Alarm> hello, i just installed mscorefonts , but i cant see 'tahoma' in the font list. (control center) why is that
[06:55] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Do you have linux instaled to HD?
[06:55] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  ye
[06:56] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: What distro?
[06:56] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  edgy kub
[06:56] <incorrect> is koffice 1.6 really better than openoffice?
[06:56] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Why not just install beryl on that?
[06:56] <incorrect> not that i've seen a comparision
[06:57] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  i am afraid that is will crash
[06:57] <jhutchins> incorrect: I hit a problem with oo yesterday.  When I tried to print two files, oo would crash and tell me it was recovering the document.  I moved the files (so I could access them from another system), and one of the files started crashing oo as soon as I tried to open it.  abiword opened it jsut fine.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Alarm,  you may need to restart the font server, or restart X. never noticed that befor, heh...
[06:57] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Back it up, try it, if it crashes fix it.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> i just realized i dident have those fonts installed
[06:58] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:  how can i rebuild live cd?
[06:58] <ubuntu_> !rebuild
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rebuild - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <ubuntu_> !livecd
[06:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[06:58] <Alarm> so restarting would fix that problem ?
[06:59] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Google remastering live linux cd
[06:59] <djwilcox> hi has anyone got the mozilla vlc plugin working
[07:01] <ubuntu_> jhutchins: hmm do u know any live cd that has beryl installed?
[07:01] <gesslar> my beryl freezes
[07:01] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Not me.
[07:01] <ubuntu_> gesslar:  ur card?
[07:01] <gesslar> nvidia something or other
[07:03] <gesslar> i have to go to another machine on my network, ssh in and kill the process to get it back
[07:03] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: check http://www.beryl-project.org/ there might be something about live CD's there.
[07:03] <gesslar> because i can't restart X or switch terms or anything
[07:05] <juka> omg, i'm really gonna cry now
[07:05] <gesslar> what's up, Juka?
[07:05] <juka> i tried stopping the x server, but then i just get a blank screen and nothing works
[07:05] <angasule> wine crashed on me and now the screen resolution is wrong, how do I restore it?
[07:06] <juka> and i'm supposed to install nvidia drivers
[07:06] <djwilcox> i cant play any video in firefox - cant seem to get the vlc plugin working
[07:06] <juka> someone gave me a link, but i exited and didnt save, can you please send it again?
[07:06] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, do you have a minute ..my FF mplayer plugin doesn't work at this URL ...does it play on yours ?  http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/media/planet_oceandeep_promo.wmv
[07:06] <jhutchins> juka: What do you get when you hit ctrl-alt-F1?
[07:06] <juka> i have to enter username and pass
[07:06] <jhutchins> juka: Yes.
[07:07] <jhutchins> shut down kdm from there, see if that works better.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  wmv? ick; :) lets see.
[07:07] <juka> then i use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[07:07] <juka> and then everything goes blank
[07:07] <BluesKaj> djwilcox, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[07:07] <Dr_willis> mine wants to download the video.
[07:07] <juka> i can type but nothing happens
[07:07] <jhutchins> juka: Try ctrl-alt-F1 again, tap enter a couple of times.
[07:07] <juka> yeah, i pressed ALT+F4 and got back to the login screen
[07:07] <djwilcox> im not to keen on mplayer didnt like the quality
[07:08] <djwilcox> is there any way to get the vlc plugin to work
[07:08] <juka> but still cant install the drivers because they "can't be opened" :'((((((((((
[07:08] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  it plays for me in totem. I got that whole series allready. :)
[07:08] <angasule> wine crashed on me and now the screen resolution is wrong, how do I restore it? Why doesn't anyone ever answer this question? no easy solution? I friggin' hate restarting X
[07:08] <gesslar> angasule: have you restarted your X?
[07:08] <gesslar> angasule: that's probably the only way to to dit
[07:08] <gesslar> do it
[07:08] <BluesKaj> totem , ok so yer on gnome desktop ?
[07:09] <jhutchins> juka: You have 4-6 consoles, alt-f1 to alt-f6.  alt-f7 would be your first X console.
[07:09] <angasule> gesslar: no, the point is that an app shouldn't be able to screw up the system, I'd be using windows if I 'wanted' that
[07:09] <jhutchins> juka: What are the filenames?  Are they "owned" by you?
[07:09] <gesslar> the res being incorrect is not a system being screwed up
[07:09] <jhutchins> angasule: Wine is an ongoing project.  Sometimes it works better than others.
[07:10] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, it plays in VLC if i copy the URL and click on it  ...strange :)
[07:10] <jhutchins> angasule: Screwing up X isn't the same as screwing up the system.  What happens if you switch desktops?
[07:10] <angasule> jhutchins: I know, it's not wine's fault, the system should be able to withstand it
[07:10] <juka> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run and it's in my home directory
[07:10] <juka> also, i put one in the /tmp but it disappeared
[07:10] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  i rarely ever want a video to play IN the browser. :) other then youtube.
[07:10] <angasule> jhutchins: it's just X's resolution that's screwed
[07:11] <Dr_willis> angasule,  kde has that resolution/slider/config thang :) if it works..
[07:11] <gesslar> rofl, how is it not wine's fault when wine crashed and was unable to restore your previous resolution?
[07:11] <jhutchins> juka: Ok, I know NOTHING nvidia-specific, but you might need to set the program as executable, or run it with bash.
[07:11] <juka> executable? bash?
[07:11] <jhutchins> angasule: Ctrl-Alt-Keypad+/- might help.
[07:11] <gesslar> chmod +x filename
[07:11] <gesslar> bash filename
[07:12] <angasule> jhutchins: I think an application crashing and leaving the graphical environment unusable requiring a restart is the windows way
[07:12] <angasule> jhutchins: no, that doesn't work
[07:12] <jhutchins> juka:  You should be following a howto that says what steps to take.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> windows way = you would have to reboot.. not just restart X
[07:12] <angasule> jhutchins: the Settings dialog to change resolution also doesn't work
[07:12] <gesslar> actually, the best way that i found to install nvidia drivers was to use automatix2
[07:12] <gesslar> juka: have you tried that?
[07:12] <jhutchins> angasule: You're running a windows app though, the system is compromized by it.
[07:12] <angasule> Dr_willis: I have to restart every open app, same thing
[07:12] <gesslar> that's how i got my nvidia drivers installed
[07:12] <juka> i have two how-to's printed in front of me, both have commands  which i write but don't do anything
[07:12] <hatta> you don't need to restart x to change your resolution back
[07:12] <hatta> uxe xrandr
[07:13] <juka> such as "#teleinit 3"
[07:13] <hatta> use xrandr
[07:13] <angasule> jhutchins: heh that's BS
[07:13] <Dr_willis> gee... it normally takes me 4 min to install the nvidia drivers following the !nvidia wiki page... beats automatix to me...
[07:13] <gesslar> Dr_willis: thank goodness for you that we're all about altenatives then :)
[07:13] <hatta> angasule, man xrandr
[07:13] <jhutchins> angasule: If you want an isolated windows environment run xen or VMware.
[07:13] <angasule> hatta: I'm looking at xrandr
[07:13] <jhutchins> angasule: wine is a compromise.
[07:14] <hatta> xrandr -s 0 usually works for me
[07:14] <angasule> jhutchins: I'm not running a windows environment, wine is not an emulator
[07:14] <Dr_willis> gesslar,  what would be BEST if nvidia and ATI/amd would quit being idiots and let the disrto install them by default.
[07:14] <gesslar> yes, well
[07:14] <jhutchins> angasule: Right, and gnu's not unix.
[07:14] <hatta> bind it to a hotkey or something and it's fixed
[07:14] <gesslar> i won't disagree there
[07:14] <incorrect> ah i see koffice doesn't have such good word docs support
[07:14] <angasule> working now, phew
[07:14] <angasule> thanks a lot hatta
[07:14] <hatta> gladly
[07:14] <angasule> and the rest: hatta gave the unix answer, 'restart your whole environment' is not a proper answer
[07:15] <gesslar> lol jhutchins
[07:15] <gesslar> restarting x is not "restarting your whole environment"
[07:15] <gesslar> it takes like 10 seconds
[07:15] <angasule> gesslar: can you restart X without killing the apps running on top of it?
[07:15] <gesslar> yes
[07:16] <angasule> gesslar: how?
[07:16] <gesslar> you know i'm lying :p
[07:16] <Dr_willis> the moral of this story.. dont use wine to play games with you got critical stuff running. I guess.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> i still wonder why the KDE 'res change' thing works for some people and not for others.
[07:16] <gesslar> ok, maybe i should say restarting X is not restarting -my- whole environment
[07:16] <Dr_willis> a xorg.conf option perhaps?
[07:16] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: Different video hardware maybe?
[07:16] <angasule> Dr_willis: no critical stuff running, but I don't like crappy answers :P
[07:17] <jhutchins> angasule: So don't run windows programs.  Problem solved.
[07:17] <angasule> gesslar: I run everything inside X, including my consoles (yakuake is great)
[07:17] <gesslar> i love yakuake
[07:17] <angasule> jhutchins: it's not restricted to wine programs, all full screen programs are capable of doing that
[07:17] <Dr_willis> jhutchins,  i can change my res on the fly wihe the Pherhirials->monitors/display tool.
[07:18] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: I have krandr, it doesn't always work.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> using the nvidia drivers.
[07:18] <angasule> Dr_willis: I can, too, except when I can't
[07:18] <Dr_willis> krandrtray
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[07:18] <Dr_willis> krandrtray - Nifty. :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> that works for me.
[07:19] <angasule> so, I'm gonna go crash another game
[07:19] <gesslar> lol
[07:19] <gesslar> try armagetronad
[07:19] <gesslar> it's made for crashing
[07:19] <angasule> armagetronad? 'ad'? new version?
[07:19] <gesslar> it's way better than the ones in the repos
[07:19] <Dr_willis> heh - the 'configure display' option in krandtray - pops up a empty window.
[07:19] <angasule> I've always wanted a massive lan party to play armagetron :)
[07:19] <_6StringKng_> what are the beryl channels?
[07:19] <_6StringKng_> beryl is one right?
[07:20] <angasule> _6StringKng_: #beryl
[07:20] <gesslar> i set it to size 10 and it took me about 10 minutes to get to the middle of the arena
[07:20] <_6StringKng_> wasn't there another one?
[07:20] <angasule> #ubuntu-effects is about beryl too, maybe? dunno
[07:20] <angasule> !beryl
[07:20] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:21] <gesslar> angasule: http://www.armagetronad.net/
[07:21] <swanfl> i need the entry in sources.list for amarok 1.4.5
[07:21] <swanfl> I already have the riddel key
[07:21] <angasule> I really hate it when full screen apps don't let you switch to another desktop
[07:22] <gesslar> if only the armagetronad people would make the fonts less nastastic
[07:23] <krol712> koala777
[07:23] <angasule> the closer to the movie, the better
[07:24] <gesslar> maybe they should make it horrible in the moviepix mode, then :p
[07:25] <scotty> Is there aw ay to update Firefox versions without uptdating Kubuntu versions? I want to stay in 6.06 for a little while, but I'd like FF2
[07:25] <scotty> *a way
[07:25] <angasule> they should have the camel toe tron guy in erotic poses as background for the main menu
[07:25] <angasule> !firefox
[07:25] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:25] <gesslar> lol angasule
[07:25] <scotty> thanks, agasule
[07:26] <incorrect> is it me or can't konq render /. ?
[07:26] <angasule> incorrect: /. has the crappiest html, they even block the validator
[07:27] <incorrect> angasule: sadly i am at the point where i only care if it works,  not that someone else sux :)
[07:27] <crazy_penguin> good night!
[07:27] <angasule> wow, they removed the block on the validator: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fslashdot.org
[07:28] <jhutchins> incorrect: It's you.
[07:28] <_Snatch_> while trying to fetch updates in either adept or synaptics package manager, it stops at 99% and says: WAITING FOR HEADERS (99%)-what the #$%&!!??
[07:28] <Dr_willis> heh
[07:28] <Dr_willis> servers are overloaded at this time
[07:28] <gesslar> what part of slashdot does not render
[07:28] <angasule> incorrect: yeah, but it's sad that a geek site has crappy html, and for what it's worth, I read slashdot daily and don't have any real trouble
[07:28] <jhutchins> _Snatch_: use apt-get instead.
[07:28] <_Snatch_> same thing happens
[07:29] <incorrect> im going to stick with firefox for the minute
[07:29] <incorrect> maybe someone will do a gecko+qt one day
[07:29] <jhutchins> angasule: The reason you can't switch apps is that the FS game is grabbing all the input from your controls.  If you had ssh access from another device you could switch.
[07:29] <_Snatch_> jhutchins same thing happens
[07:29] <jhutchins> _Snatch_: Yeah, servers are hammered.
[07:29] <incorrect> /. could use drupal or plone
[07:30] <enzo_> Other than in System Settings > Monitor & Display > Power Saving... is there an area that would make my laptop's monitor go black every 5 minutes of idle time?
[07:30] <_Snatch_> jhutchins it doesn't happen on my other laptop
[07:30] <gesslar> enzo_: sometimes i have a screensaver set that doesn't load, but just turns the screen black.
[07:30] <jhutchins> incorrect: /. predates either of those projects.
[07:31] <incorrect> jhutchins: and hasn't been updated since 2003
[07:31] <incorrect> the slashcode project is dead
[07:31] <_Snatch_> while trying to fetch updates in either adept or synaptics package manager, it stops at 99% and says: WAITING FOR HEADERS (99%)-what the #$%&!!??
[07:31] <incorrect> they could happy use one of the modern cms's
[07:31] <gesslar> deja vu?
[07:31] <_Snatch_> lol
[07:31] <enzo_> gesslar: That might be the same issue
[07:31] <jhutchins> _Snatch_: Stop abusing yourself!  Find another mirror.
[07:32] <gesslar> rofl
[07:32] <gesslar> jhutchins: i thought you were insulting him
[07:32] <gesslar> rofl
[07:32] <gesslar> sometimes my inner geek goes on a coffee break
[07:32] <_Snatch_> jhutchins ... i came to irc to find other mirrors
[07:32] <_Snatch_> lol
[07:33] <gesslar> so why don't you just say "hey, does anybody have a list of mirrors for [blahblahblah?"
[07:33] <streather> out of curiosity is there any osx style docks availible for kubuntu
[07:33] <gesslar> let's see if ubotu has mirrors
[07:33] <Dr_willis> stranger,  none that ive seen worth using..
[07:33] <gesslar> !mirrors
[07:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[07:33] <gesslar> guess not
[07:33] <Dr_willis> stranger,  then again - i hate the OS-X docl
[07:33] <gesslar> streather: i think there's something on kde-apps.org
[07:34] <hellcattrav> hello?
[07:34] <hellcattrav> im new to linux/Kubunut
[07:35] <gesslar> well, hello there, hellcattrav
[07:35] <hellcattrav> hi
[07:36] <_Snatch_> ...
[07:36] <hellcattrav> ok here's my "problem"  I've got XP, and an the install off of the live cd, but I can't get my wireless card working-I posted on the Kubuntu forums(same username)
[07:37] <gesslar> streather: try: sudo apt-get install kxdocker
[07:37] <hellcattrav> i tried ubuntu once(from the live cd) and it recognized my wireless card, but I like the KDE better, but I'm at a loss on what to do
[07:37] <juka> hoyeah! i managed to install the freaking nvidia drivers and they work perfectly, the problem was: I didn't know linux was CASE SENSITIVE about filenames :///////
[07:37] <juka> so whenever i typed something, it said "cannot opet", and i was like WTF?!
[07:37] <juka> :)
[07:37] <gesslar> juka: oh, well. yes, *nix is incredibly sensitive about its cases. don't mention it, it gets a little embarassed about size and whatnot.
[07:37] <juka> anyway, thanks for the help guys :)
[07:38] <juka> now the other problem
[07:38] <gesslar> rofl
[07:38] <gesslar> bring it
[07:38] <juka> why I installed the drivers in the first place
[07:38] <juka> :)
[07:38] <gesslar> for fun and profit?
[07:38] <juka> wait a sec, someones at the door
[07:38] <hellcattrav> gesslar, any idea on what i can do? I'mn a total noob with kubuntu(linux in general)
[07:38] <juka> :)
[07:39] <juka> my ex ;))))))))
[07:39] <juka> anyway, the geforce 6800 has an immensly loud fan!
[07:39] <juka> so the nvclock_qt was supposed to have functions to control fan speed
[07:39] <gesslar> hellcattrav: unfotunately, i don't have any experience with wilan. i tried once, and failed. then then just found it easier to stick in a wired card.
[07:39] <hellcattrav> dang
[07:40] <juka> i installed it via adept manager and there is NO FAN SPEED regulation :(
[07:40] <hellcattrav> anyone else able to help?
[07:41] <gesslar> juka: my apt-cache tells me that this util is for overclocking
[07:41] <juka> eh
[07:41] <estel> hi
[07:41] <juka> i just saw...
[07:41] <juka> the adept manager has 8b1 version, and the current is 8b2
[07:41] <gesslar> juka: nvclock-qt - Allows you to overclock your nVidia card under GNU/Linux
[07:41] <juka> will try it
[07:41] <gesslar> i would try it out, but i don't want to overclock my gpu
[07:42] <hellcattrav>  hey anyone willing to help my noobish self out?
[07:43] <estel> I'm trying to install kubuntu with the alternative installer (text mode), but the installer is unable to find my cdrom device. it is a gsa-h42l and should be /dev/hdg. udev didn't create a device node for hdg, but hda (my hdd) works fine, so it is no problem of ide in general. i created a device node for /dev/hdf, but it still fails. dmesg recognizes the device as ide1 - any ideas?
[07:44] <estel> i have the same problem using knoppix, unfortunately google wasn't much of a help
[07:46] <frojnd> does anyone know for some kind of subtitle workshop or something to edit and modify subtitles ?
[07:47] <liam> hi guys and girls gotta prob with my cd drive any help?
[07:48] <alexicon> hello
[07:48] <hellcattrav> ok, any takers to help me?
[07:48] <alexicon> ive accidentally deleted my /boot partition
[07:48] <alexicon> which means ive lost my kernel and all drivers
[07:48] <liam> my cd drive wont unmount and eject?
[07:48] <alexicon> ive stuck a generic livecd version of the kernel in boot and can boot from that
[07:48] <liam> any ideas
[07:48] <BluesKaj> alexicon, did you reinstall windows
[07:48] <BluesKaj> ?
[07:48] <alexicon> can i just update my system as usual
[07:48] <alexicon> BluesKaj: no suse D:
[07:49] <cntb> alexicon interesting Q.
[07:49] <alexicon> suse ate my boot partition, i thought it would be smart and save all the necessary other distros i have
[07:49] <alexicon> but it didnt
[07:49] <liam> can any one help me?
[07:50] <BluesKaj> so suse took the grub  bootloader out
[07:50] <cntb> Iwould like to hear a solution to your "recovering /boot partition" .
[07:50] <alexicon> yep
[07:50] <alexicon> anyway i stuck a new kernel in its place, and it boots, just with no drivers
[07:50] <liam> ok my cd drive wont unmount and i cant eject
[07:50] <TIRC_6621> ciao a tutti
[07:50] <alexicon> i guess im just going to have to find out the hardway :P
[07:50] <finalmad> c' qualcuno che mi potrebbe aiutare?
[07:50] <alexicon> liam look for any processes still using the cd
[07:50] <cntb> alexicon: lesson learnt ? use custom install not default
[07:51] <alexicon> i did custom.. i thought i had backed up my boot partition, but i only backed up the stupid default /boot directory that it installs with -_-
[07:51] <alexicon> my own stupid mistake
[07:51] <cntb> !it > finalmad
[07:51] <liam> where would i look for the process
[07:51] <alexicon> lsof laim
[07:51] <alexicon> i mean liam
[07:51] <alexicon> >_>
[07:52] <liam> sorry im confused
[07:52] <BluesKaj> there's a grub utility called "super grub" , you can find it on google , DL , burn it in suse then bot up the grubdisk and reinstall grub
[07:52] <BluesKaj> bootup the grub disk
[07:52] <alexicon> grubs not the issue really, i know all the locations it needs to boot off
[07:52] <cntb> supergrub is a bootable
[07:52] <liam> ok this is what it says when i try to dismount
[07:52] <liam> company is - Lorimer Electrical
[07:52] <liam> number - 01325 308555
[07:52] <liam> mobile - 07885 761900 (better just number above like)
[07:52] <liam> owner is called angus lorimer
[07:52] <alexicon> the problem is i lost my vmlinux
[07:52] <alexicon> and bzimage
[07:53] <liam> sorry wrong message
[07:53] <juka> omg, again I can't install what I have installed yesterday!!!!
[07:53] <liam> company is - Lorimer Electrical
[07:53] <liam> number - 01325 308555
[07:53] <liam> mobile - 07885 761900 (better just number above like)
[07:53] <liam> owner is called angus lorimer
[07:53] <juka> the KPackage doesn't recognize .tar.gz file!
[07:53] <blue|palm> Help! Amarok crashed and now it doesnt want to load...
[07:53] <liam> damn thing
[07:53] <liam> ok
[07:53] <juka> and it should xD
[07:53] <juka> x(
[07:53] <juka> lol
[07:53] <alexicon> so what i wonder is if i boot up on this old kernel version and try to update will apt even work
[07:54] <BluesKaj> liam  use pastebin
[07:54] <alexicon> or will it break cos packages it thinks are there really arent
[07:54] <liam> wheres that?
[07:54] <alexicon> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:54] <blue|palm> !amarok
[07:54] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[07:54] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[07:54] <BluesKaj> :)'
[07:55] <moises> i want to add the multiverse repository to my sources.list, what is the line i need to put in it?
[07:55] <gesslar> it should already be there, just uncomment it
[07:55] <liam> unmount: only root can unmount /dev/hdd from media.cdrom0
[07:55] <liam> thats the error message i get
[07:55] <BluesKaj> take the # away from the beginning of the deb...address
[07:55] <blue|palm> what can i do if amarok has crashed and it wont re-load?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[07:55] <moises> i see. well played, gesslar
[07:56] <alexicon> blue|palm: id log out of X then back in and try to resstart amarok
[07:56] <liam> ok what does that mean Dr_willis
[07:56] <alexicon> or do ps -ef | grep -i amarok
[07:56] <moises> wait... no it isn't .all i have in there is universe
[07:56] <alexicon> see if anything is still hanging about
[07:56] <moises> and multiverse, but only under backports
[07:57] <Dr_willis> liam,  that will have root unmount the cdrom.
[07:57] <gesslar> ah, i see that automatix2 added my multiverses
[07:57] <BluesKaj> moises , http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[07:57] <liam> ok so i need to type that in a command line
[07:57] <gesslar> moises: my bad
[07:57] <alexicon> yeah liam in the command line
[07:58] <liam> thanks
[07:58] <alexicon> ok gunna reboot back into my deformed system brb
[07:59] <moises> thanks much =)
[08:00] <moises> fellas, i have a bone to pick with kubuntu. its happened on multiple systems that i've tried, so i know it's not my computer, but
[08:00] <cntb> supergrub disk here http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/ also read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:00] <gesslar> i love my kubuntu
[08:00] <moises> every once in a while i'll try to launch a program and it will randomly not launch. no error message, no problems whatsoever,
[08:00] <gesslar> oh, i get that, too
[08:00] <moises> it'll give me the bouncing mouse icon and a taskbar entry for the launching program
[08:00] <moises> and then it just never ends up launching
[08:01] <gesslar> and then you try again and voila it works
[08:01] <moises> and i spent like 30 seconds of my life waiting for something that just didn't happen.
[08:01] <liam> ok that didnt work i tried sudo unmount /media/cdrom0
[08:01] <hellcattrav> hello- could anyone help me?
[08:01] <hellcattrav> a no would work too
[08:02] <gesslar> if it's still about wilan, i still cannot help
[08:02] <gesslar> sorry :(
[08:02] <cntb> alexicon: why not try and mkdir /boot in root partition
[08:02] <liam> any one help me with this cdrom thing
[08:02] <cntb> then fill it with what is needed
[08:02] <moises> whoops, looks like beryl crashed
[08:03] <gesslar> moises: it freezes on me all the time
[08:03] <gesslar> gesslar: i just uninstalled it last night
[08:03] <gesslar> i'm talking to myself
[08:03] <Dr_willis> liam,  ---->  sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[08:03] <Dr_willis> liam,  note there is no 'n'
[08:03] <ScottK> hellcattrav: Have you looked on the Ubuntu/Kubuntu wikis for wireless stuff?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> and NO i dont know where it went. :)
[08:03] <hellcattrav> yeah i guess it is, im running XP cos i cant get my net up and I've just the laptop(well not true, but the desktop may as well be broke, the internet connection is so slow
[08:03] <liam> yeah i tried that sorry an error entering in here
[08:03] <hellcattrav> yes, i have but i can't make heads or tails
[08:03] <_ubuntu> hey guys, trying to use 5.10 live cd and trying to install lm sensors but it ddoesnt work, any advice?
[08:04] <Dr_willis> if somthing is accessing the cdrom - it wont unmount it.
[08:04] <moises> so i feel like i am getting stood up by a COMPUTER PROGRAM. is there anyway to fix this?
[08:04] <gesslar> or if you're cd'ed into it in a terminal
[08:04] <moises> or, stop it from happening at least
[08:04] <liam> it says please check that the disk is entered correctly
[08:04] <gesslar> moises: i have no idea, i get it all the time too, though i have the distinct impression that it's happening with non-native kde apps. firefox does it most often to me
[08:04] <_ubuntu> anyone?
[08:05] <moises> the one that does it most often to me is adept
[08:05] <moises> quite a native KDE app if you ask me
[08:05] <liam> what was that about it being cd'ed
[08:06] <ScottK> hellcattrav: I don't have time to give you much help, but use 'sudo lspci -v' in a command line to figure out which wireless type you have and then look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported and see if what you have is listed.
[08:06] <hellcattrav> ok
[08:06] <gesslar> liam: if you're in a terminal session and you've cd'ed into any directory on the cdrom then you cannot umount it
[08:06] <hellcattrav> ive made a question on the forums- if you've the time just add a post to my thread(ive the same username on the kubuntu forum)
[08:06] <ScottK> hellcattrav: That command will list all the devices it can find.  IME the wireless device is normall at/near the end of the list.
[08:07] <liam> ok sorry i dont know what that means
[08:07] <hellcattrav> okk thanks
[08:07] <liam> how do i undo that?
[08:07] <ScottK> hellcattrav: I stay far away from the forums.  The noise level is too high.
[08:07] <Dr_willis> liam,  close all programs accessing the cdrom
[08:07] <hellcattrav> oh
[08:07] <hellcattrav> if i could trouble you again- how do i get to the sudu?
[08:07] <liam> they all are
[08:07] <nessuno> WOW
[08:07] <nessuno> SALVE
[08:07] <ScottK> hellcattrav: Feel free to add the infor yourself once you've figured it out.
[08:07] <nessuno> ops
[08:08] <hellcattrav> heres my problem- when i tried to go into the network settings for admin mode it said conversation with sudo failed
[08:08] <ScottK> hellcattrav: Use Konsole to open a command line window and type the commad in there.
[08:08] <ScottK> commad/command
[08:08] <nessuno> italy ??
[08:08] <snovvy> hello all
[08:09] <ScottK> hellcattrav: I have to run, but if you need help learning how to get to a command line, ask for help with that first.
[08:09] <snovvy> why when i compile Glib and next i want to compile GTK+ i got error ?
[08:09] <alexicon> back
[08:10] <alexicon> >_>
[08:10] <snovvy> i think i doing everything right :)
[08:10] <incorrect> i've converted to kde,  how can i purge gnome?
[08:10] <liam> how do i unmount this CD DRIVE!!!! PLEASE HELP!!!
[08:10] <alexicon> hrm
[08:10] <alexicon> losing my kernel seems to have made my wifi card disappear too
[08:10] <alexicon> just as well as i need to repatch the driver anyway
[08:10] <snovvy> right mouse button at CD drive and hit Unmout
[08:10] <incorrect> liam: lsof | grep <your cdrom dir>
[08:11] <liam> ok where do i type that
[08:11] <alexicon> commandline
[08:11] <alexicon> everything gets typed there :P
[08:11] <snovvy> in Console :)
[08:12] <liam> ok whats the charachter after lsof
[08:12] <snovvy> Do I can download compiled Glib somewhere ? :
[08:12] <hellcattrav> ok can someone hlep me get to the command line?
[08:13] <snovvy> K > System > Termianl/Console... [i don;t know what is name in you're distro :)] 
[08:13] <incorrect> so how do i purge gnome?
[08:13] <alexicon> or F2 and type konsole
[08:13] <cntb> vasilis
[08:13] <cntb> !gr
[08:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:14] <liam> ok i give up
[08:14] <snovvy> !pl
[08:14] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:14] <snovvy> :)
[08:14] <SSJ_GZ> incorrect:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[08:14] <alexicon> liam: its called a pipe
[08:14] <liam> dont know how to enter it  though
[08:14] <alexicon> and its usually on the top left corner of your keyboard next to number 1
[08:14] <alexicon> you need shift+alt or some weird combination to get it tho
[08:14] <liam> ok #
[08:14] <alexicon> or just cut and paste it from this window
[08:14] <alexicon> :)
[08:15] <cntb> liam - goes with the backslash
[08:15] <cntb> \|
[08:16] <liam> ok lsof | grep <your cdrom dir> done nothihg
[08:17] <scotty> http://sethkinast.com/photos/index.php?fpp=10&did=4&fid=4 <-- Anyone know what those two widget-like apps on the right of the screenshot are?
[08:17] <liam> and i did enter my cdrom location lol
[08:17] <scotty> rather, are called
[08:17] <SSJ_GZ> liam:Try fuser <your cdrom dir>
[08:18] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F1 for command line without the desktop , ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the desktop
[08:18] <liam> no sorry that didnt work either
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:19] <SSJ_GZ> liam:You mean it didn't print anything at all?
[08:19] <liam> no nothing
[08:19] <SSJ_GZ> liam:What does sudo umount <your cdrom dir> do?
[08:20] <hellcattrav> thanks snovvy
[08:20] <liam> sudo unmount command not found
[08:20] <snovvy> no problem :D
[08:20] <SSJ_GZ> liam:umount, not umount :)
[08:20] <SSJ_GZ> *unmount even
[08:21] <SSJ_GZ> liam:"umount", not "unmount" :)
[08:21] <liam> oh ok sorry
[08:21] <SSJ_GZ> liam:np - as you can see, I managed to make almost exactly the same mistake :)
[08:21] <liam> ah now that worked
[08:22] <liam> thankyou
[08:22] <liam> so do i have to do that every time now
[08:23] <juano__> does anyone know a good .avi to DVD image program _??
[08:23] <SSJ_GZ> liam:I hope not, although my desktop installation seems to have screwed up in a similar way recently :(
[08:23] <BluesKaj> tovid for cli
[08:23] <SSJ_GZ> liam:It used to work fine from the GUI, though.
[08:23] <McNeal> hello
[08:23] <dromer> hmmm, I was about to install vmware-player with synaptic .. but I get this error after about 5 mins into installing: E: vmware-player: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:23] <liam> i cant get my other partion to mount to
[08:23] <McNeal> can someone help me on amarok and shout script?
[08:23] <BluesKaj> tovid does well with it's GUI , but devede is alittle easier to use
[08:23] <incorrect> bye bye gtk
[08:24] <incorrect> bye bye libgnome
[08:24] <McNeal> i get alltime a error if i want to run the script
[08:25] <hellcattrav> oi, so what do i do to get the command line?
[08:26] <McNeal> can someone help me on amarok and shout script? i get alltime a error if i want to run the script
[08:26] <McNeal> this is what is get for a error - http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.net/104
[08:26] <BluesKaj> hellcattrav, look in the kmenu and choose system/konsole
[08:27] <hellcattrav> ok thanks
[08:28] <hellcattrav> then after i do that i type 'sudo lspci -v, then what?
[08:28] <incorrect> is there a good email client in kde yet?
[08:29] <BluesKaj> Thunderbird email , incorrect
[08:29] <incorrect> BluesKaj: does that have qt bindings?
[08:29] <BluesKaj> hellcattrav, it should list all the pci slots on yer pc and what cards are mounted in them
[08:30] <BluesKaj> incorrect, dunno
[08:31] <hellcattrav> ah because I'm trying to get my wirless to work in Kubuntu(I'm on XP atm, trying to find more info, cos I have to switch between my two OS's (at least until I get my wirelss card working)
[08:31] <nanook> zwrzwrzh
[08:31] <zorglu_> !wireless
[08:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[08:32] <BluesKaj> :)
[08:32] <mik__> !proxy
[08:32] <zorglu_> me first :)
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <hellcattrav> what does! infront of something mean?
[08:32] <zorglu_> hellcattrav: this is a command for the bot
[08:32] <zorglu_> !bot | hellcattrav
[08:32] <ubotu> hellcattrav: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:32] <hellcattrav> i looked at the wiki once, and couldn't make sense
[08:32] <mik__> !.htpasswd
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htpasswd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <mik__> !tor
[08:33] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[08:33] <mik__> great :)
[08:33] <hellcattrav> ubotu-  i try looking but get overwellmed
[08:33] <zorglu_> mik__: in order not to flood the channel you can do "/msg ubotu tor" to get the same result :)
[08:33] <mik__> ok escuze me ;)
[08:34] <chris_> what do i do if sudo says this: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 11 18:30:35 2007?
[08:34] <hellcattrav> ? ok Im lost now
[08:35] <mik__> chris: try => sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:35] <zorglu_> that's a bit radical :)
[08:36] <mik__> what was your command chris?
[08:36] <hellcattrav> yeah ok so at this point I'm lost
[08:36] <chris_> nano
[08:37] <ZmAY> hello, how can i mount floppy disk
[08:37] <chris_> mik_ also, I can't get into system clock to adjust it (not graphically anyway)
[08:37] <mik__> try gedit chris
[08:37] <mik__> it's a bit like nano
[08:38] <chris_> don't have it atm, also I'm doing an upgrade
[08:38] <chris_> i think I'll just wait a couple hours....clock seems ok now.
[08:38] <chris_> thanks anyway
[08:39] <zorglu_> !floppy | ZmAY
[08:39] <ubotu> ZmAY: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:39] <hellcattrav> !wireless|me
[08:39] <ubotu> me: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:40] <xenol> plz how can i enable javascript in konqueror? i have java5 from sun isntalled
[08:40] <mik__> konqueror is not aim to be a browser xenol, use firefox instead ;)
[08:41] <gesslar> khtml is aimed to be a browser
[08:41] <hellcattrav> ok i looked at the wiki
[08:41] <gesslar> konqueror is meant to be a shell to house kparts
[08:42] <mik__> does anybody know how to redirect squid to privoxy?
[08:44] <ScarFreewill> i want to make a bootable flashdisk its only 128mb so i want to put dsl on it, not sure how
[08:44] <alexicon> hrmm good news is i think adept has figured out that i have a bunch of stuff missing
[08:44] <alexicon> hopefully it will sort itself out :P
[08:44] <ScarFreewill> i have tried alot of how-tos
[08:45] <ZmAY> hi, i do: "mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy" to mount floppy but it says "mount: mount point /mnt/floppy does not exist"
[08:45] <mik__> what do you want to do ScarFreewill???
[08:45] <ScarFreewill> ZmAY: do "sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy"
[08:45] <mik__> ZmAY:> sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[08:46] <ZmAY> thanks
[08:46] <ScarFreewill> mik__: i want to boot of my flash drive aka pendrive
[08:46] <ScarFreewill> or usb drive...
[08:46] <mik__> can't you use a new line in lilo or grub?
[08:46] <gesslar> grub config can use newlines
[08:46] <mik__> to tell to boot on your usb drive
[08:47] <ScarFreewill> but i don't want to use it only on my pc
[08:47] <gesslar> hmm, some bios's allow booting off flash drives
[08:47] <ScarFreewill> and i don't want to use the hp tool to make my flashdisk bootable.... i only want to use linux..
[08:48] <ScarFreewill> mine does...
[08:48] <ScarFreewill> nforce4..
[08:48] <mik__> you use grub or lilo?
[08:48] <mik__> or none ? ^^
[08:48] <ScarFreewill> grub i think (is it defaul with edgy?)
[08:48] <gesslar> well, i mean boot off them in the same way that you would boot off a cdrom- before it hits the boot manager
[08:48] <gesslar> so your OS would have no bearing on it
[08:49] <gesslar> but i have only seen one pc do it
[08:49] <gesslar> mine certainly doesn't
[08:49] <ScarFreewill> :P
[08:49] <ScarFreewill> hehe
[08:49] <gesslar> but then mine's 3 years old
[08:50] <linija> Anyone know why I have no on-line connection on 2nd PC when all settings are same to this one??? Ethercard is enabled.
[08:50] <ScarFreewill> my problem is to make the disk bootable and to get the files right on it i'm not sure what fs to use..
[08:50] <mik__> use a router linija
[08:50] <linija> I can't just unplug this one and plug in the other one?
[08:51] <ScarFreewill> this is how my flashdisk is atm "/dev/sdc1   *           1          15      120456    1  FAT12"
[08:51] <mik__> does ping work well between both computer?
[08:51] <gesslar> fat12?
[08:51] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: thats what the how to said :P
[08:51] <gesslar> i've never seen fat12
[08:52] <linija> ummm. newbie.. :) don't know what "ping is" or how?
[08:52] <mik__> i confirm...fat12 exist :p
[08:52] <gesslar> huh, ok, well, gimme a sec
[08:52] <gesslar> i believe you
[08:52] <mik__> linija: the ping command permit to test connection between computer...see if they are online
[08:52] <ScarFreewill> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?action=show&redirect=LiveUsbStick i think this is about the best one around
[08:53] <linija> how do I "ping"
[08:53] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: i see that you can put knoppix on a flash drive
[08:53] <mik__> type: ifconfig and gimme the result
[08:53] <linija> just "ping" in terminal?
[08:53] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: dsl is a small knoppix
[08:53] <gesslar> linija: in a terminal, "> ping ippaddress.of.other.host"
[08:54] <mik__> no...for exempple: ping 192.168.0.132
[08:55] <linija> no. wait. The 2 computers aren't connected to each other. Don't need them to be. Just need to log on with the other one to get some updates.
[08:55] <mik__> if you want to ping hamit, you type: ping 85.104.29.93
[08:55] <ScarFreewill> its just that, that how to tells me to make 2 partions i don't know why...
[08:55] <hamit> mik__:
[08:55] <linija> That other one doesn't usually do on line. I just formated HDD and re-installed Kubuntu
[08:55] <mynicknameistake> Anybody tried automatix2 with herd3?
[08:55] <gesslar> i want to try this, now
[08:55] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: i'm going to try it :)
[08:56] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: ok ^^
[08:56] <mynicknameistake> automatix doesnt start here :(
[08:56] <mik__> no...sorry mynicknameistake
[08:56] <mik__> what is it?
[08:56] <ScarFreewill> mynicknameistake: i'll check it out when i have time to install herd3
[08:56] <mynicknameistake> tried the version 2 as .deb, as apt-get and tried the bleeder
[08:56] <ScarFreewill> :P
[08:57] <mynicknameistake> no luck
[08:57] <mynicknameistake> (besides... the nickname is triple hehe
[08:57] <mynicknameistake> but it is taken!!!
[08:57] <mynicknameistake> bah
[08:57] <ScarFreewill> lol
[08:58] <mik__> ok...bye everybody
[08:58] <mynicknameistake> I am now using adept to update with all repositories enabled... takes a while... Fiesty Fawn looks ok though!
[08:59] <xenol> is it possible to remove kscd and kaudiocreator?
[08:59] <ScarFreewill> mynicknameistake: when i tried to install herd 1 the installer was broken
[09:00] <mynicknameistake> took me a while to get the linksys wifi card up, but now it works and looks very good!
 The other PC won't ping. But modem is fine and Ethercard is enabled... any ideas???
[09:00] <ScarFreewill> mynicknameistake: and only fixed for me at herd 3 and now that is its out i don't have time to install :P
[09:00] <coolieo> how can i get realvnc to work on kubuntu? ite gives me an error when i try to load it libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[09:01] <mynicknameistake> installing herd3 was preffy fast, if you have a few hours you should really try it!
[09:02] <ScarFreewill> mynicknameistake: i will but most probbably not in the next 4 days ..
[09:02] <cntb> guys has ubuntu it's own online edition of online man pages ?
[09:03] <mynicknameistake> well, the world has more than 4 days left, i hope, so you can see for yourself ;)
[09:03] <jhutchins> coolieo: The version you're tring to use is not compatible with your system.
[09:03] <ScarFreewill> hehe
[09:03] <coolieo> ok thanks. will i just have to revert back top the older version?
[09:04] <coolieo> back to*
[09:04] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: i think they mean FAT16 instead of FAT12
[09:05] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: ok i'll re format quickly
[09:05] <mynicknameistake> What i find a little strange is that herd3 is brand new, but there are 150 upgadable packages and i only installed the basic system.... why are the last versions not in the .iso?
[09:05] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: the instructions they give on that page seem wrong to me. becaus if you do what they say, then you end up getting a "6: unknown command" message
[09:06] <ScarFreewill> yes, could it be because of fdisk is another version?
[09:06] <gesslar> maybe, i'm not sure
[09:07] <gesslar> also, it says at the bottom... of that area
[09:07] <gesslar> also make sure (via fdisk -l) you created a w95/fat and not a linux partition, otherwise i was unable to boot from it !!
[09:07] <gesslar> which seems different from what it says
[09:08] <ScarFreewill> yeah if you just say 1 then it makes fat12
[09:08] <ScarFreewill> and they want w95/fat
[09:09] <gesslar> see that's b in the hexcode fs list
[09:09] <ScarFreewill> what did you take after t ?
[09:09] <ScarFreewill> ok
[09:09] <gesslar> i'll try b
[09:10] <ScarFreewill> what is the defferance between that b,c aka lba
[09:10] <gesslar> hmm
[09:10] <gesslar> i forget what LBA means
[09:11] <ScarFreewill> i never knew
[09:11] <djwilcox> cant play any video with firefox - flash or quicktime what gives
[09:11] <rohan> are there kubuntu cd's available with KDE and amarok updated to latest versions, and other packages updated ?
[09:11] <rohan> something like fedora respins
[09:11] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: /dev/sdc1               1          15      120456    b  W95 FAT32
[09:11] <djwilcox> cant find a plugin that works for flash and the mozilla vlc plugin wont work either
[09:11] <hellcattrav> oi oi
[09:12] <hellcattrav> I'm back
[09:12] <mynicknameistake> I have my nickname back
[09:14] <djwilcox> what plugin do you need to watch flash on a powerpc
[09:15] <djwilcox> in a browser like firefox
[09:16] <gesslar> !mirror
[09:16] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:16] <ScarFreewill> where is isolinux.cfg located on the kubntu cd?
[09:16] <ScarFreewill> because in dsl its in /boot/isolinux/isolinux.cfg
[09:17] <slyfox> How do I mount an image file or an iso file in Kubuntu ?
[09:18] <ScarFreewill> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/image/ /path/to/mountpoint
[09:18] <ScarFreewill> @slyfox
[09:19] <slyfox> ScarFreewill: What does this mean   -o loop  ?
[09:19] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: you got me distracted, i wasin the middle of doing a beryl thing and i went to your howto and started doing it, too
[09:20] <gesslar> lol
[09:21] <slyfox> How do I play .vob files the dvd format ?
[09:21] <slyfox> never mind kaffein plays them
[09:22] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: hehe
[09:23] <jhutchins> gesslar: Logical Block Addressing
[09:23] <gesslar> thanks jhutchins!
[09:23] <jhutchins> djwilcox: flash plugin.
[09:23] <jhutchins> !formats | djwilcox
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: i'm goint to test my flash disk out..
[09:24] <gesslar> all right!
[09:24] <gesslar> lemme know how it works
[09:24] <gesslar> i'm downloading the ubuntu image right now
[09:24] <xenol> plz why when i want to remove kscd it says it will also remove kubuntu-desktop?
[09:24] <jhutchins> !flash
[09:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:24] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:24] <djwilcox> have tried several flash plugins no joy
[09:24] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: ok cya in a bit..
[09:26] <xenol>  plz why when i want to remove kscd it says it will also remove kubuntu-desktop?
[09:27] <gesslar> ack, i just rm'ed bashrc instead of .bashrc~, does anybody know how i can get it back?
[09:27] <jhutchins> djwilcox: Use the one in the official repos.
[09:27] <gesslar> oh, maybe there's a copy in skel
[09:27] <jhutchins> xenol: It's ok, kubuntu-desktop is just a tag.
[09:28] <xenol> so i can remove it?
[09:28] <jhutchins> xenol: It's removing it because without kscd you won't have the complete suite.
[09:28] <gesslar> thank goodess, most of my stuff is in .profile
[09:28] <jhutchins> xenol: Yes.  You'll revert to upgrading specific packages, which is fine.
[09:28] <xenol> ah so i cant remove kscd ?
[09:28] <jhutchins> xeno: Sure you can.
[09:28] <jhutchins> xenol: Won't hurt a thing.
[09:29] <xenol> well but i want to have kubuntu desktop
[09:29] <jhutchins> xenol: You'll still have all the rest of the files.
[09:29] <xenol> so i can remove kscd and kaudiocreator so i can do it as in feisty :S
[09:29] <jhutchins> xenol: That's just a flag that includes a bunch of KDE packages.  Either you have all of them, and the flag, or you have some of them and manage them individually.
[09:30] <jhutchins> xenol: No real need to remove them, but yes.
[09:30] <xenol> jhutchins:  well lets says i am using kde 3.5.6 and remove kscd and kaudiocreator and kde 3.5.7 comes out and i update those programs will be installed again?
[09:31] <jhutchins> xenol: If you upgrade, just those programs you have installed will be upgraded.
[09:31] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: omg i almost formated my root :P
[09:31] <jhutchins> xenol: If you want to check out what the whole package looks like in the upgrade, just install it again.
[09:31] <gesslar> lol ScarFreewill
[09:31] <ScarFreewill> it told me this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem few ;O
[09:32] <gesslar> rofl
[09:32] <ScarFreewill> i typed sda1 insted of sdc1 :P
[09:32] <xenol> jhutchins:  well but since i have amarok and k3b to play audio cds and rip cd/dvds i dont need them
[09:32] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: you crack me up
[09:32] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: i just rm'ed my .bashrc and was feeling panicky but you ALMOST trumped me
[09:33] <ScarFreewill> ^^
[09:33] <jhutchins> xenol: kubuntu-desktop is just a container, so removing it is like throwing out a cardboard box.
[09:33] <xenol> jhutchins:  is it true: the less programs i have installed, the faster my kubuntu will be?
[09:33] <jhutchins> xenol: If everything's still in the box, then you can remove it all with the box, but once you take things out of the box it no longer has that function.
[09:34] <jhutchins> xenol: Not necessarily.  Only for programs that automatically load.
[09:34] <xenol> ah
[09:34] <xenol> jhutchins:  so  if i dont use them i dont need to remove cause they dont slower up the system right?
[09:34] <jhutchins> The presence of other programs on the disk doesn't effect anything except free disk space.
[09:34] <jhutchins> xenol: Right.
[09:35] <xenol> jhutchins:  thx
[09:35] <jhutchins> xenol: The one exception is that running any of the package utilities (apt, etc) will be a little slower with more packages installed.
[09:35] <jhutchins> Since you don't spend a lot of your total time doing that, no biggie.
[09:36] <xenol> jhutchins:  it will be slower cause they need to index all packages right?
[09:36] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: now i'm really going to try it..
[09:36] <parkerw207> guys just a thought
[09:36] <jhutchins> xenol: Basically because it searches through a larger database when checking what's already installed.
[09:37] <parkerw207> linux is meant to be one of the most secure OS right ?
[09:37] <jhutchins> xenol: Still has the same size database of installables.
[09:37] <ScarFreewill> parkerw207: no
[09:37] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: all right
[09:37] <jhutchins> parkerw207: It has the potential to be.
[09:37] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: i wait for you!
[09:37] <parkerw207> but its not yet ?
[09:37] <jhutchins> parkerw207: have a look at se_linux.
[09:37] <gesslar> parkerw207: some people don't run it to be secure- the more secure it is the more restrictive it is.
[09:37] <jhutchins> parkerw207: You can do a lot of things with linux, make it secure or insecure.
[09:38] <flo_> how can i force a prog to compile with a arbitrary version of gcc?
[09:38] <ScarFreewill> parkerw207: openbsd/netbsd is secure...
[09:38] <jhutchins> flo_: Re-code it so it's compatible.
[09:38] <xenol> jhutchins:  can u plz advise at else to install? some piece of software that i could use every day and which html editor will u advise me?  Q+ NVU or bluefish?
[09:38] <jhutchins> xenol: I use vi for an HTML editor.
[09:38] <parkerw207> i see , well my friend was saying tha windows is more secure than linux
[09:38] <parkerw207> is that correct
[09:38] <parkerw207> i was under the impression it werent
[09:38] <jhutchins> I'm messing with mencoder and avidemux for a video project.
[09:39] <gesslar> parkerw207: windows can be secure.
[09:39] <jhutchins> I like mplayer for video better than the other options.
[09:39] <jhutchins> gesslar: Sure, just don't connect it.
[09:39] <ScarFreewill> linux is secure because it is not made to beinsecure like windows, openbsd is made to be secure...
[09:39] <gesslar> agreed :)
[09:39] <jhutchins> gesslar: ...to a power source.
[09:39] <parkerw207> but basic linux compared to basic windows which is securer ?
[09:39] <xenol> jhutchins:  hmm and do u have isntalled software for x.org or also for shell? i mean stuff like irsii licq vi emacs ... ?
[09:40] <flo_> jhutchins: i just want to compile with 3.3.6 not 4... is there a option to send to make o ./configure? i'm not a guru of compiling :-)
[09:40] <jhutchins> xenol: vi, ssh, irssi for emergencies.
[09:40] <jhutchins> flo_: I take it you get errors when you use 3.6.6?
[09:40] <gesslar> parkerw207: most people running widnows do so with an account with root (admin) privileges, most people who run *nix do so with accounts that are -not- as powerful as root/admin- so it's only really as secure as you like it to be
[09:41] <hellcattrav> oi oi, so i got the sudo wlan assisstant to work
[09:41] <hellcattrav> but i can't connet
[09:41] <xenol> jhutchins:  ssh is used for remote control?
[09:41] <parkerw207> oo i see
[09:41] <parkerw207> ok this as wel , sorry i was arguing with my mate and some wuestions arose
[09:41] <parkerw207> he says , open source = less secure
[09:41] <parkerw207> as the code is out there to find fualts to exploit
[09:41] <jhutchins> xenol: It gives you a secure console session with a remote box.
[09:41] <jhutchins> xenol: From there you have whatever control you would from a local console.
[09:41] <jhutchins> xenol: Oh, screen, very important.
[09:42] <xenol> jhutchins:  only usable on unix or also for win? it would be good to be able to shut down pc with that crap :s
[09:42] <flo_> jhutchins:  i'm tring to compile ogre3d from source and thei sai that it compiles with a 3. series of gcc so i just have to unninstall gcc 4. and leve the 3. version?
[09:42] <jhutchins> xenol: Preserves your session if you get disconnected, allows you to detatch sessions and re-attach, even from another location.
[09:42] <hellcattrav> i can't even connect to my mates wireless(which is unsecured)- normally use it to test to see if my wireless was off or not?
[09:42] <jhutchins> flo_: Should be backwards compatible.
[09:43] <parkerw207> another things
[09:43] <jhutchins> flo_: My knowledge of modern compilers is somewhat limited.
[09:43] <flo_> jhutchins: aha thx so y should search the problem elsewere
[09:43] <parkerw207> my mate says windows has a much faster life cycle for secuirty updates
[09:43] <parkerw207> #se_linux
[09:43] <jhutchins> flo_: I would just try it.  If you're getting errors, bring them here.
[09:43] <parkerw207> oops
[09:43] <jhutchins> parkerw207: That is complete bunk.
[09:43] <parkerw207> it is ?
[09:43] <parkerw207> explain
[09:43] <jhutchins> parkerw207: I have seen patches produced for linux within hours.
[09:44] <jhutchins> parkerw207: Windows takes weeks, or at least days, to get the patch out.
[09:44] <xenol> jhutchins: do u use xgl?
[09:44] <parkerw207> ok another thing
[09:44] <jhutchins> xenol: No need for it, no.
[09:44] <parkerw207> he said that its used by the worlds goverment
[09:44] <parkerw207> becuase linux is not professional
[09:44] <gesslar> ask your mate who is the world's government :p
[09:44] <parkerw207> worlds goverments*
[09:44] <parkerw207> sorry typo
[09:44] <hellcattrav> yeah theres no such thing?
[09:44] <hellcattrav> oh
[09:44] <jhutchins> parkerw207: Unix?  Sure is, has been for decades.  selinux was developed by the NSA>
[09:45] <xenol> jhutchins: hmm u prefer terminal? i start to love it
[09:45] <jhutchins> parkerw207: There probably isn't a government that doesn't use some of both.
[09:45] <parkerw207> he said that windows is professional becuase its made by tousands of programmer working to make money
[09:45] <mynicknameistake> Lets assume linux and windows both have the same number of security flaws... windows has approx 90% of the desktops, linux only 5 and apple the orher 5. It is way more interesting to write a windows worm.
[09:45] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: does not work :( i'm posative its because of my syslinux.cfg
[09:45] <gesslar> doh
[09:46] <jhutchins> xenol: For years I ran Linux on servers and utility boxes, only been running X for about three or four years.
[09:46] <illriginal> Does K3B automatically convert files from mp3/wav to audio format so that it can be played in a stereo/cd player?
[09:46] <parkerw207> yes
[09:46] <mart81> parkerw207: you should not listen so much to your friends ;)
[09:46] <mynicknameistake> Yes
[09:46] <jhutchins> xenol: I go all the way back to printing terminals and paper tape, so the command line is no stranger.
[09:46] <parkerw207> lol ooo i werent
[09:46] <parkerw207> i was clarifying
[09:46] <SSJ_GZ> mynicknameistake:No, it's way more "interesting" to write a Linux worm because so many people say it can't be done :)
[09:46] <xenol> jhutchins:  how old have u been working in IT ?
[09:46] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: the only prob is the how to is for kubuntu cd image not dsl..
[09:46] <gesslar> parkerw207: i actually think you should use whatever OS you like. if your friend likes Windows, let him use Windows. Linux is about choice even when that choice is not to use it.
[09:47] <shadowhywind> hay all when i just to use wpa_supplicant it slows my computer down to a halt, any ideas
[09:47] <mynicknameistake> but parker, remeber this, it is not the OS that is weak, it is always the user
[09:47] <jhutchins> xenol: Many, many years, and playing in it for longer.  I have family that did some very early stuff.
[09:47] <parkerw207> ok hehe
[09:47] <parkerw207> i know
[09:47] <parkerw207> the thing is
[09:47] <parkerw207> its kinda true that being open source
[09:47] <jhutchins> xenol: CRT monitors displaying text?  My uncle, on an Air Force contract.
[09:47] <xenol> jhutchins:  bill gates? :D
[09:47] <parkerw207> its easier for virus to be made and for exploits
[09:47] <parkerw207> if linux was as popular as widnows
[09:47] <xenol> jhutchins:  wow
[09:48] <SSJ_GZ> mynicknameistake:That's true, but sometimes the OS doesn't exactly help - see e.g. the RPC exploit, which required 0 user intervention.
[09:48] <caris_mere> does anybody have experience using Ekiga? I need some tips about how to connect with Windows users
[09:48] <mart81> parkerw207: that can only be proved by the real world, doesn't it?
[09:48] <jhutchins> xenol: My dad helped design the production line for the IBM 370, one of those add-a-new-wing-to-the-building mainframes.
[09:48] <parkerw207> yeah i suppose
[09:48] <mynicknameistake> the average windows user has less experience with a computer compared to the average *ux user
[09:49] <gesslar> parkerw207: well, it's also a self-fulling situation. if linux were more popular, it'd have more developpers dedicated to fixing and maintaining it, wouldn't it?
[09:49] <BluesKaj> my '/etc/bash.bashrc' file keeps giving me errors when opening the terminal ... is there a clean copy somewhere ?
[09:49] <parkerw207> yep
[09:49] <xenol> jhutchins:  so u r rich?
[09:49] <parkerw207> i like linux i think its great
[09:49] <jhutchins> xenol: Not so much. My own carreer has had problems with bad timing.
[09:49] <parkerw207> but i dont see why people have to bask linux :S
[09:49] <jhutchins> xenol: I became a programmer at the hight of the programming glut, for instance.
[09:50] <jhutchins> parkerw207: bash?
[09:50] <parkerw207> ermm...
[09:50] <xenol> jhutchins:  hmm i guess then u should start many years ago then
[09:50] <parkerw207> pick at it ?
[09:50] <gesslar> parkerw207: well, i think that people like your mate are happy with their choices. i also think they contribute to FUD.
[09:50] <parkerw207> FUD ?
[09:50] <mynicknameistake> the good thing in *ux is the part where you have to be admin or super user to change the system. This way it isnt easy to install a virus without the user knowing it
[09:50] <gesslar> parkerw207: fear uncertainty and doubt
[09:50] <parkerw207> lol
[09:50] <jhutchins> parkerw207: bash.  Bask is to enjoy.
[09:50] <parkerw207> its an english phrase
[09:50] <gesslar> mmm, i'm going to go bask in some steaks
[09:50] <parkerw207> to ... attack ?
[09:51] <parkerw207> like , " to bash with a stick"
[09:51] <gesslar> right
[09:51] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: http://www.die.supsi.ch/~bucher/flash-howto.pdf that looks quick and dirty
[09:51] <parkerw207> "to hit with a stick"
[09:51] <gesslar> parkerw207: i think its' that you said 'bask' instead of 'bash'
[09:51] <jhutchins> parkerw207: right, you typoed bask.
[09:51] <parkerw207> ooo lol
[09:51] <parkerw207> i am trying to get used to my new laptop keyboard layout
[09:51] <parkerw207> sorry
[09:51] <hellcattrav> gesslar: I got the wireless assisstnat to show the nearby networks, but i can't connect to any of them..any idea, or is this still out of your expertise?
[09:52] <gesslar> ScarFreewill: why are you giving me flash information?
[09:52] <gesslar> oh
[09:52] <gesslar> flash drives
[09:52] <gesslar> rofl, i thought it was macromedia flash
[09:52] <ScarFreewill> lol hehe
[09:52] <xenol> jhutchins:  hmm u have been workign wit bsd too?
[09:52] <gesslar> allright time for food
[09:52] <jhutchins> xenol: No, after the mainframes just DOS through Windows, and linux.
[09:53] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: i need to go
[09:53] <parkerw207> isnt linux on the iss ?
[09:53] <ScarFreewill> gesslar: need to get sleep (school tomorrow) cya
[09:53] <jhutchins> parkerw207: It certainly has been.  I believe they use a mix.
[09:53] <jhutchins> parkerw207: More specialized OSs too.
[09:53] <mynicknameistake> is there a feisty fawn channel?
[09:53] <LjL> !feisty
[09:53] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:54] <ScarFreewill> LjL: you fast...
[09:54] <parkerw207> specialized ?
[09:54] <cgeo> guys. i try to bbot with a live cd and all i get is a blank screen when it is supposed to enter the gui.i do hear sound hear sounds and stuff though
[09:54] <parkerw207> like they get thier own OS's made ?
[09:54] <BluesKaj> !bash.bashrc
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bash.bashrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <ScarFreewill> cgeo: did it work before?
[09:54] <jhutchins> parkerw207: Yeah, non-PC hardware.
[09:54] <mike_> Anyone had any luck install Edgy on a Thinkpad T22?
[09:54] <xenol> jhutchins:  hmm why u using kubuntu and not debian? :S kubuntu is mainly for newbies
[09:54] <jhutchins> xenol: To test it.
[09:55] <parkerw207> ooo i see
[09:55] <BluesKaj> !bash
[09:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:55] <cgeo> scarFreewill:no it is the first time i try to use kubuntu. I have ati
[09:55] <ScarFreewill> cgeo: what version of kubuntu?
[09:55] <parkerw207> why would they use linux ?
[09:55] <cgeo> ScarFreewill:edfy
[09:55] <cgeo> #edgy
[09:55] <jhutchins> xenol: My main desktop is Mandriva, I run RedHat, Fedora, Gentoo, and Ubuntu.  And a couple of old NT boxes.
[09:55] <BluesKaj> !bashrc
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bashrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <xenol> jhutchins:  and wat do u think? i have tried suse 10.1 FC 5 and some live cds
[09:55] <xenol> jhutchins:  does mandriva have better support then ubuntu?
[09:56] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: What are you after?
[09:56] <cgeo> ScarFreewill:Edgy eft
[09:56] <ScarFreewill> cgeo: edgy is a beta i know some ppl with nvidia and ati that it does not work with dapper is the non-beta, have you tried safe gfx mode?
[09:56] <hellcattrav> ok so could some home help?
[09:56] <mart81> parkerw207: who are "they"?
[09:56] <jhutchins> xenol: Not better support.  I like it a bit better.  I dislike suse for a number of reasons.
[09:56] <parkerw207> ooo sorry lol
[09:56] <smoze> what was the name of disk partitioning program again?
[09:56] <parkerw207> then people who run the ISS
[09:56] <cgeo> ScarFreewill:yes but still the same problem. it seems to load everything but the monitor is turned off
[09:56] <parkerw207> no i meant "ET" of course ;)
[09:57] <ScarFreewill> cgeo: i'm afraid you are going to need to downlaod/get dapper drake
[09:57] <jhutchins> smoze: partedit?  fdisk?  qparted?
[09:57] <smoze> the one at live-cd
[09:57] <cgeo> ScarFreeWill:Are u sure I cannot try anything on edgy?
[09:57] <xenol> jhutchins:  YaST2? :D too buggy at least on my PC
[09:58] <jhutchins> xenol: Like i said, lots of reasons, but that's off topic here.
[09:58] <xenol> jhutchins:  hmm i am interested which commands do i need to know for everyday use of terminal
[09:59] <xenol> !commands
[09:59] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:59] <jhutchins> xenol: THis is pretty good: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[10:00] <smoze> none of those were the one i needed but thanks anyway
[10:00] <ScarFreewill1> cgeo: you can ship it for free if you have bad internet like me :P
[10:00] <xenol> jhutchins:  thx for time and advices =)
[10:01] <ScarFreewill1> (test)
[10:01] <ScarFreewill1> !ping
[10:01] <ubotu> pong
[10:01] <ScarFreewill1> woot i'm still on the internet!
[10:01] <jhutchins> xenol: Just "pay it down the line".
[10:01] <cgeo> ScarFreewill:6.10
[10:01] <ScarFreewill1> cgeo: you need 6.06
[10:01] <xenol> jhutchins: :)
[10:02] <cgeo> Scarfreewill:ok thanx for the help. i will download 6.06
[10:02] <ScarFreewill1> cgeo: you need 6.10 and 7.04 is beta
[10:02] <ScarFreewill1> cgeo: cya
[10:02] <hellcattrav> ok, could someone at least acknowledge that I'm here?
[10:02] <gesslar_away> lol ScarFreewill1
[10:02] <ScarFreewill1> cgeo: actualy 7.04 is alpha ^^
[10:02] <gesslar_away> hi hellcattrav
[10:02] <cgeo> scarfreewill: ok :)
[10:02] <ScarFreewill1> gesslar: lol i'm still here...
[10:02] <gesslar> me too :)
[10:03] <hellcattrav> WOOT acknowledgement
[10:03] <ScarFreewill1> gesslar: i'm going to sleep NOW -.-
[10:03] <gesslar> ScarFreewill1: my bf says he's not hungry so i can't cook yet
[10:03] <gesslar> NOW?
[10:03] <gesslar> like..right now?
[10:03] <gesslar> or are you already asleep?
[10:03] <ScarFreewill1> *_*
[10:03] <gesslar> you must be .. aha
[10:03] <gesslar> asleep by now
[10:03] <ScarFreewill1> hehe cya
[10:04] <hellcattrav> anyone want to help who's good at wireless connections?  I can see the wireless networks i can access, but I can't connec to any of them- even the ones without keys, and that i can usually get on with windows
[10:04] <gesslar> BluesKaj:  what are you trying to figure out about .bashrc?
[10:04] <parkerw207> i had them problems
[10:04] <parkerw207> kubuntu has prolems with dchp
[10:05] <hellcattrav> so is there anyhting i can do? or am i screwed?
[10:05] <parkerw207> well you can input everything manually
[10:05] <parkerw207> put in you routers ip address and defualt gateway , all that lot
[10:05] <parkerw207> thats how i did it
[10:05] <hellcattrav> im a noob, and really have no idea what im doing, im amazed i could figuire out what ive did already
[10:06] <hellcattrav> ok how do i find the IP address and default gateway?
[10:06] <underdog5004> I love opendns...my isp's dns servers went down recently, but I was all set
[10:06] <parkerw207> wel i am not the best to ask cos i have only been doing this for... 2 week slol
[10:06] <hellcattrav> hey thats 2 weeks longer then me
[10:06] <parkerw207> hehe
[10:06] <parkerw207> right
[10:06] <parkerw207> can you access your router ?
[10:06] <parkerw207> go to the configuration page ?
[10:07] <hellcattrav> maybe
[10:07] <parkerw207> cos everything should be on there
[10:07] <hellcattrav> but see i don't deal all that- my dad and his buddy(whos a computer god-but he comes over once everycouple of months) control all that stuff, i dont want to go poking around in there
[10:07] <parkerw207> hehe ok
[10:08] <mynicknameistake> Is youre wifi card in system settings / network settings?
[10:08] <parkerw207> what have you been using to search for wifi routers?
[10:08] <hellcattrav> um?
[10:08] <hellcattrav> hell if i know
[10:08] <parkerw207> ok
[10:08] <parkerw207> got to the start menu
[10:08] <Alzi2> Since the Compiz channel is really empty, i'll ask this here: I'm trying to run compiz in KDE but when i do, it screws up everything (focussing windows, switching workspaces, input), and terminates all window managers. It doesn't even give the effects. Can anyone help me with this? Errors are:
[10:08] <hellcattrav> i went to kmenu--> internet---> wireless assisstant and then it worked(weras yesterday it didn't)
[10:08] <hellcattrav> ok
[10:08] <Alzi2> [22:07]  <Alzi2> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[10:08] <Alzi2> [22:07]  <Alzi2> compiz.real: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not supported by direct rendering context, trying indirect rendering context instead
[10:09] <parkerw207> ahhh
[10:09] <ZmAY> hello, how can i run open office (excell) from console
[10:09] <ZmAY> so i can use sudo
[10:09] <hellcattrav> thanks gesslar
[10:09] <gesslar> hellcattrav: i really wish i could have helped :( but i'm incredibly happy that you got it
[10:10] <gesslar> ZmAY: which oocalc
[10:10] <hellcattrav> now all i have to do is to be able to get on the net(but hey progress is progress...hey thanks, appreciate that you rembered, I heard linux has a friendly knowledge base, good to know ive not been in vain
[10:10] <gesslar> ZmAY: although, just running "oocalc" should run it
[10:10] <ZmAY> tnx
[10:10] <Hail_Spacecake> I have two computers running linux
[10:10] <parkerw207> hellcattrav: go to the startmenu ---> system settings --->network settings
[10:11] <hellcattrav> in XP?
[10:11] <Hail_Spacecake> a laptop with ubuntu and a desktop with suse
[10:11] <mynicknameistake> in linux
[10:11] <Hail_Spacecake> both of them are on the same wireless network
[10:11] <parkerw207> noo linux
[10:11] <hellcattrav> cos  thats what im in now.... cos the net on my linux isn't working(hence how im talking to you atm)
[10:11] <Hail_Spacecake> but I want to be able to put in an ethernet cable between them
[10:11] <Hail_Spacecake> and transfer files that way
[10:11] <parkerw207> ahh i see
[10:11] <matdon> hi
[10:11] <Hail_Spacecake> rather than on the wlan
[10:11] <parkerw207> hmmm i dont know then , anyone know mroe ?
[10:11] <Hail_Spacecake> so how do I make sure I'm transfering over that network rather than the wlan?
[10:11] <hellcattrav> parker- could you tell me what to do, and i will try it after i get back from my driving lesson, hten get back to you
[10:12] <parkerw207> i'm just a learning newbie :P
[10:12] <hellcattrav> are you on here reguraly?
[10:12] <parkerw207> yeah sure
[10:12] <parkerw207> yup
[10:12] <parkerw207> everyday
[10:12] <hellcattrav> or anyone esle for that matter
[10:12] <hellcattrav> oi do you use msn messanger?
[10:12] <parkerw207> you will alwys find that if people can help
[10:12] <parkerw207> they will
[10:12] <parkerw207> yes i do
[10:12] <hellcattrav> true
[10:12] <hellcattrav> vestwearingpunk@gmail.com
[10:12] <mynicknameistake> has it worked before on linux hellcattrav?
[10:13] <matdon> does anyone know how I can upgrade libgphoto on kubuntu?
[10:13] <matdon> or can anyone point me to documents so I can figure out how?
[10:13] <hellcattrav> negative, ive not gotten the internet to run yet. but i was finally able to see the available networks with the wiereless assisstant(unliek yesterday)
[10:13] <HymnToLife> !libgphoto
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgphoto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <parkerw207> then you try and connect ut it dont work ?
[10:14] <hellcattrav> yes, correct
[10:14] <parkerw207> "connection failed"
[10:14] <hellcattrav> yep
[10:14] <parkerw207> thats what happened to me
[10:14] <matdon> :)
[10:14] <hellcattrav> if i bolt suddenly its cos teh driving instructor arrived
[10:14] <parkerw207> what security do you use on your router  ?
[10:14] <HymnToLife> matdon, what's wrong with just updating with apt ?
[10:14] <hellcattrav> illl be gone for around 2 hours
[10:14] <parkerw207> Wep ?
[10:14] <mynicknameistake> could you see them in a graphical ui or in the konsole (like DOS screen)
[10:14] <hellcattrav> i think so, i have to put in a string of numbers
[10:14] <matdon> I'm trying to get the latest libgphoto library and I'm not sure the most sane method to do it
[10:15] <parkerw207> ok try putting the wep code in like this 1234-1234-12
[10:15] <parkerw207> as an example
[10:15] <hellcattrav> ok, how many numbers between the dashes?
[10:15] <parkerw207> 4 , then 4 , then 2
[10:16] <hellcattrav> ok
[10:16] <parkerw207> liek this xxx-xxxx-xx
[10:16] <matdon> can I use apt-get to get the latest library or would I need to upgrade the entire system
[10:16] <parkerw207> if its a 10 digit code ?
[10:16] <parkerw207> !wifi
[10:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:16] <hellcattrav> yep
[10:16] <hellcattrav> 10 digits
[10:16] <parkerw207> ok well thats what fixed mine
[10:16] <parkerw207> simple eh ? lol
[10:17] <mynicknameistake> hey hell... do you use your own router or anything that is available?
[10:17] <hellcattrav> nah its the family router
[10:18] <mynicknameistake> than you know the WEP key?
[10:18] <hellcattrav> yep
[10:18] <jhutchins> matdon: If you specify the library, the system should show you anything else that needs to be updated, and only update the related parts.
[10:19] <mynicknameistake> have you seen the card in the system settings / network menu?
[10:19] <jhutchins> One of my clients has had her DSL down for months, but it doesn't bother her because so many of her neighbors have unsecured wireless points.
[10:19] <hellcattrav> i think so
[10:20] <mynicknameistake> hehe you have to be sure, you must configure the card there
[10:20] <hellcattrav> i just went to wlan assisstnat(or what ever its called-in kubuntu) and typedi in my password, got the wireless networks, but can't connect
[10:20] <hellcattrav> ok, i think i may have to configure the card
[10:21] <Moneo> Hi, could anyone tell me where I could start looking for information on changing the behavior of my power button? Ideally I'd like to be able to restart X with it rather than halt. would that be possible?
[10:21] <hellcattrav> ill try reentering hte code with -'s then see if its configured and post back here, but now im off to have a driving lesson)
[10:21] <hellcattrav> ok i will try that as soon as i get back, and let you all know, but for now I have to run...cheers
[10:21] <jhutchins> Moneo: Is it on the case or the keyboard?  Desktop or laptop?
[10:21] <mynicknameistake> so what you do now is open the system settings (like configuration in windows) and the open network settings.
[10:22] <parkerw207> cya hell , have fun
[10:22] <Moneo> jhutchins, on the case, desktop.
[10:22] <mynicknameistake> ok, gl cat@!
[10:22] <jhutchins> Moneo: I don't think you'll have much luck with that, that's pretty much a hardware function.
[10:22] <mart81> Hail_Spacecake: if you have a gateway in the network(router/pc as gateway), you could put a switch between them and use samba to make it sharing files between one another.(or just use the router is it's close enough)
[10:22] <Moneo> hmm I see, thanks. So halt isnt called when it's hit?
[10:22] <jhutchins> Moneo: If it's configurable, it would be in the BIOS, most likely your options are sleep/hibernate.
[10:23] <jhutchins> Moneo: Correct, one of the dangers of using it.
[10:23] <blue|palm> has anybody else had these problems with an ati card using prop drivers: When i switch to the console (any using F1-F6) it displays a messy garbage screen of crisrossing lines...
[10:23] <Hail_Spacecake> I don't have a gateway, to my knowledge
[10:23] <jhutchins> Moneo: It signals the power management chips directly to cut power.
[10:23] <Hail_Spacecake> I don't want to have anything to do with the wireless network
[10:23] <Moneo> ahh I see, many thanks jhutchins
[10:24] <matdon> when I use apt-get it tells me I have the latest version but it isn't. is this because I'm using edgy and not fiesty?
[10:24] <Hail_Spacecake> I'd be willing to temporarily disable it if I need to
[10:24] <jhutchins> Moneo: For sleep/hibernate mode, it will generate a signal from teh bios to the OS.
[10:24] <matdon> and if so can I upgrade?
[10:24] <jhutchins> Moneo: You know you can restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, right?
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> matdon: no, it means you have the latest version packaged for your release
[10:24] <matdon> I have 2.2.1
[10:24] <matdon> and I want 2.3.0
[10:24] <matdon> that's my problem in a nutshell
[10:25] <jhutchins> matdon: Feisty is not officially released yet, it's considered unstable, and you should only run it in order to locate and report bugs.
[10:25] <Moneo> jhutchins, yeah, but I've had kde freeze a few times with keyboard input being ignored (even numlock, caps etc) whilst programs are still functioning in the background
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> you can build from source, maybe check backports,
[10:25] <Moneo> kde or X, anyway
[10:25] <jhutchins> Moneo: Yes, that happens.  Do you have any other systems available?
[10:25] <matdon> so I would have to manually upgrade this library then if I want it?
[10:25] <blue|palm> has anybody else had these problems with an ati card using prop drivers: When i switch to the console (any using F1-F6) it displays a messy garbage screen of crisrossing lines...
[10:26] <jhutchins> matdon: Not manually, but using apt so that releated changes are made.
[10:26] <Moneo> yeah, one or two - I could ssh into them and restart X I guess, but it's a pain. The mac runs synergy and so dosn't have its own keyboard
[10:26] <jhutchins> matdon: Sorry, not really following.
[10:26] <mart81> Hail_Spacecake: well, if there is no cable from your room towards the device you receive internet with, i would personally just use a separate router for this main purpose, they are not that expensive anymore.
[10:26] <matdon> it's cool
[10:26] <HymnToLife> matdon, yes
[10:26] <Hail_Spacecake> do I need a router?
[10:26] <Hail_Spacecake> the two computers are right next to each other
[10:26] <matdon> I'm going to uninstall what is there and build what I want from source
[10:26] <HymnToLife> it's just a lib though so it should be fairly easy
[10:26] <Hail_Spacecake> why can't I just string an ethernet cable between them?
[10:27] <Hail_Spacecake> what I'm saying is
[10:27] <jhutchins> matdon: WARNING: THIS COULD TRASH YOUR SYSTEM:  you can try downloading the lib from feisty and installing it.  If it lists a reasonable number of dependencies, get those too.  If you get into more than a handful of files, stop.
[10:27] <Hail_Spacecake> I just don't want the traffic
[10:27] <Hail_Spacecake> going through wlan0
[10:27] <Hail_Spacecake> I want it going through eth0
[10:27] <matdon> okay
[10:27] <matdon> thanks for the warning
[10:28] <mart81> Hail_Spacecake: traffic needs to be routed afaik yes, you cannot just put cat5 cables between one another, not that i know at least.
[10:28] <matdon> I'm used to using bsd and I'm fixing this for a friend hopefully it will work out
[10:28] <HymnToLife> installing the Feisty package seems an even worse idea
[10:28] <jhutchins> matdon: You can also build your own deb packages so that you stay within the packaging system and other apps are aware of the lib versions and such.
[10:28] <HymnToLife> since it involves installing the feisty libc6
[10:28] <HymnToLife> which is pretty close to installing the whole of Feisty
[10:28] <jhutchins> Hail_Spacecake: You don't need a router, but you need a crossover cable.
[10:28] <matdon> I'm going to try building the lib from source
[10:29] <matdon> that's how I would usually do it
[10:29] <mart81> Hail_Spacecake: but i also read that people with a mac were able to connect between one another in a train, so maybe i am just wrong here...
[10:29] <Hail_Spacecake> well, I've used this cable before to transfer between two computers with windows
[10:29] <Hail_Spacecake> mart81: I can connect over the wlan
[10:29] <Hail_Spacecake> I just don't want to
[10:29] <jhutchins> Hail_Spacecake: A Cat5 crossover cable will connect two like devices (computers).
[10:30] <Hail_Spacecake> ah, then that's what I have
[10:30] <jhutchins> Hail_Spacecake: A Cat5 straight-through cable is used between an end device (computer) and a routing device (hub/switch/router).
[10:30] <jhutchins> Going router-to-router you usually need crossover, which is sometimes wired into the port.
[10:31] <jhutchins> Basically a crossover just connects the "send" pair to the "recive" contacts.
[10:31] <jhutchins> recieve that is.
[10:38] <mart81> jhutchins: so he can just put straight cables between them, give them hard addresses and use samba? Is that what you're saying?
[10:38] <alexicon> hrm
[10:38] <jhutchins> mart81: Crossover cables, but yes.
[10:39] <mart81> hmm, never knew that :)
[10:40] <alexicon> i did an update and it seems to have put my vmlinux image into /boot, but not into my proper boot partition
[10:40] <alexicon> can i just throw it into the right boot and point grub at it
[10:40] <alexicon> i thought it automatically handled it
[10:41] <alexicon> and it doesnt look like xorg has updated either
[10:41] <alexicon> !nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <blue|palm> hi does anybody know how to make xine fullscreen? I can only watch movies with black borders on top and at the bottom. My monitor is 16:10
[10:43] <nick__> can anyone help me. My menu bar has disappeared. It appears when i first start Kubuntu but then disappears
[10:43] <jhutchins> alexicon: How is /boot not your proper boot partition?
[10:43] <alexicon> there is a directory boot in /
[10:43] <jhutchins> blue|palm: My solution is to use mplayer <grin>.
[10:43] <alexicon> but thats on my / partition
[10:44] <alexicon> i boot off the /boot partition on hdc2
[10:44] <alexicon> kubuntu sits on hdc1
[10:44] <jhutchins> alexicon: You didn't have /boot mounted when you did your update.
[10:44] <alexicon> nup i didnt
[10:44] <alexicon> but i never do
[10:44] <alexicon> i dont think
[10:44] <jhutchins> alexicon: Some distros check for that, ubuntu apparently doesn't
[10:44] <blue|palm> jhutchins: on my hardware ive been having problems using mplayer :(
[10:44] <alexicon> ok
[10:44] <alexicon> i'll try mounting then updating again
[10:44] <jhutchins> alexicon: That's why I stopped using a seperate /boot - got a system totally hosed.
[10:44] <blue|palm> jhutchins: sound disappears somtimes, video is choppy (not that it isnt everywhere else due to ati)
[10:45] <jhutchins> alexicon: No reason you shouldn't be able to just move the files.
[10:45] <hamit> hii
[10:45] <alexicon> yeah i did that yesterday jhutchins D:
[10:45] <Lil99> how can I change the font of the menu's
[10:45] <alexicon> suse ate everything
[10:45] <alexicon> and i thought boot was mounted, and i backed up it
[10:45] <alexicon> but it wasnt mounted so i backed up the wrong stuff
[10:45] <alexicon> D:
[10:45] <jhutchins> blue|palm: All I can say is read up on xine.
[10:45] <alexicon> anyway evertyhing else was recovered just lost my kernel and all my modules
[10:45] <alexicon> pain in the ass having to do nvidia again
[10:45] <alexicon> seems to just be luck that it works
[10:46] <jhutchins> Often that way.
[10:46] <alexicon> hrmm how do i mount boot when /boot is already there :P
[10:47] <alexicon> maybe i should just copy all the files over to the right partition
[10:47] <alexicon> yeah..
[10:47] <jhutchins> alexicon: You can mount over anything.
[10:47] <jay> what's the xmodmap command to add super_l as keycode 115?
[10:47] <alexicon> ok
[10:47] <jhutchins> alexicon: But if you want to move stuff, mount it somewehere else.
[10:47] <alexicon> yeah ive got it mounted elsewhere, i guess i'll just do it manually
[10:47] <alexicon> what kernel is it up to anyway?
[10:47] <jhutchins> alexicon: I usually just mount temp stuff to /mnt - which is fine as long as nothing's mounted under /mnt
[10:48] <alexicon> yeah ive got it mounted
[10:48] <jhutchins> You can mount a partition on top of any directory.
[10:48] <alexicon> i see a copy of 2.6.17-11
[10:48] <alexicon> i thought it was higher than that tho
[10:48] <alexicon> 2.6.18 or something
[10:48] <jhutchins> There are even ways you can mount directories at opther points in the filesystem.
[10:48] <blue|palm> what is the latest version of the linux kernel?
[10:48] <alexicon> yeah what is the latest version
[10:49] <alexicon> uname -a anyone...
[10:49] <HymnToLife> blue|palm, 2.6.20 is the latest stable release
[10:49] <alexicon> is that whast being handed out??
[10:49] <blue|palm> !xinerama
[10:49] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:49] <HymnToLife> alexicon, with Ubuntu, no
[10:49] <jhutchins> blue|palm: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/snapshots/patch-2.6.20-git6.bz2
[10:49] <blue|palm> thanks
[10:49] <HymnToLife> unless you use the testing version (aka Feisty)
[10:49] <alexicon> ok
[10:49] <alexicon> so whats the latest on edgy?
[10:49] <blue|palm> What is feisty fawn going to use? Does anybody know?
[10:49] <HymnToLife> 2.6.17
[10:50] <alexicon> ok
[10:50] <alexicon> 17-11?
[10:50] <HymnToLife> alexicon, yes
[10:50] <alexicon> ok
[10:50] <HymnToLife> blue|palm, now, it uses 2.6.20
[10:50] <HymnToLife> and I don't think it will change before release
[10:51] <blue|palm> but what about gfx drivers that dont support the new kernel (like fglrx)
[10:51] <HymnToLife> !info linux-image-generic feisty
[10:51] <jhutchins> Feisty will use a kernel that's reasonably current at release time, subject to adequate testing.
[10:51] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.6.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[10:51] <blue|palm> do we just have to wait?
[10:51] <HymnToLife> blue|palm, I guess so, or buy a nvidia card
[10:51] <jhutchins> blue|palm: That's why glx is experimental these days.
[10:51] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: Im seriously considering that :(
[10:52] <blue|palm> jhutchins: what do you mean by experimental (coz im using it right now)
[10:52] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Then you are an experimenter.
[10:52] <blue|palm> jhutchins: lol
[10:52] <HymnToLife> jhutchins, fglrx != glx
[10:52] <jhutchins> Right, right, I mean the beryl stuff.
[10:53] <HymnToLife> blue|palm, where did you see that newer kernels didn't support fglrx ?
[10:53] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: Are you talking about the X extension
[10:53] <HymnToLife> jhutchins, fglrx is a driver for ati cards
[10:53] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: ATI themselves sed so
[10:53] <HymnToLife> that's bad
[10:53] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: yes
[10:53] <jhutchins> THis stuff takes time to get around.
[10:53] <jhutchins> Kernels have to be released, get tested, get things ported and those things tested...
[10:54] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: when you say glx is that the X extension?
[10:54] <jhutchins> Microsoft does the same thing, only you don't see anything until it's all as finished as they can get it.
[10:54] <HymnToLife> !glx
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <jhutchins> With Linux you can jump in anywhere along the line.
[10:54] <alexicon> do get those new restricted modules does that mean i have to have boot mounted then
[10:54] <HymnToLife> blue|palm, well, basically, GLX is an implementation of the X server woth OpenGL acceleration
[10:54] <alexicon> hrm i better just mount it i guess
[10:54] <HymnToLife> with*
[10:55] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: Then yes that is what i am currently using
[10:55] <HymnToLife> alexicon, what about the restricted-modules ? just apt-get them
[10:55] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: for beryl of course
[10:55] <HymnToLife> I tried beryl not so long ago
[10:55] <HymnToLife> nice but very buggy
[10:55] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: can you tell me, in a nutshell, the difference between xgl and aiglx?
[10:55] <HymnToLife> no :p
[10:56] <blue|palm> HymnToLife: lol why?
[10:56] <HymnToLife> I guess that's just another reimplementation of X
[10:56] <HymnToLife> because I don't know it
[10:56] <blue|palm> !aiglx
[10:56] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[10:56] <blue|palm> oh ok
[10:56] <blue|palm> lol
[10:56] <blue|palm> wow
[10:56] <blue|palm> for open source drivers then
[10:56] <skarface> heh straight from wikipedia
[11:00] <mart81> [22:56:12]    HymnToLife | because I don't know it                                                                                                                                                                          Boss_evo
[11:00] <mart81> oops
[11:01] <alexicon> does that nvidia-glx-config enable ever work for anyone
[11:02] <jhutchins> Time to go feed the horses, later all.
[11:03] <HymnToLife> alexicon, yes, unless running edgy
[11:03] <alexicon> unless!?
[11:03] <HymnToLife> in which case it's nvidia-xconfig
[11:03] <alexicon> lol
[11:03] <alexicon> ok
[11:03] <alexicon> i'll try that thing
[11:03] <alexicon> sudo that?
[11:03] <tanq> i'm currently using the installer wizard, and the prepare mount points screen seems rather confused.
[11:03] <alexicon> tyeah probably
[11:04] <alexicon> ah cool
[11:04] <tanq> i assigned / to my /dev/hda4 and swap to my hda3 and it tells me "No Root File Sysytem"
[11:04] <alexicon> hrm
[11:04] <alexicon> it didnt change driver to nvidia
[11:04] <alexicon> its still sayin nv
[11:05] <alexicon> hrm and why do i have the package nvidia-xconfig but adept tells me i dont have it installed @_@
[11:06] <HymnToLife> how do you know you have it then ?
[11:07] <alexicon> because i just ran it :P
[11:07] <HymnToLife> try installing it then
[11:07] <VividHazE> hey can anyone help me its really simple but i'm stupid. I'm trying to change permissions on my scanner so I can use it, its already setup, I found instructions to find out what number to put at the end of this: sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/001/002 but it was for Ubuntu not Kubuntu which I have and I can't figure it out
[11:07] <HymnToLife> VividHazE, lsusb in a terminal
[11:07] <alexicon> hrm wants to remove glx to install it
[11:07] <VividHazE> thanks HymnToLife
[11:08] <HymnToLife> alexicon, hmm yeah, in fact you shouldn't install it :p
[11:08] <alexicon> lol ok i wont then
[11:08] <alexicon> damn still wants to remove glx...
[11:08] <HymnToLife> are you running Dapper or Edgy ?
[11:08] <alexicon> edgy
[11:09] <alexicon> and im usin the lupine repos
[11:09] <HymnToLife> what the hell is that ?
[11:09] <alexicon> newest nvidia drivers to use with beryl
[11:09] <alexicon> hrm
[11:09] <alexicon> its supposed to get the newest nvidia kernel stuff too
[11:10] <alexicon> but it says ive got ubuntu nvidia kernel and i got the lupine nvidia drivers
[11:10] <alexicon> which is going to be the problem
[11:10] <HymnToLife> can't help you with it then
[11:11] <xJPM100x> whats the wiki page that tells you how to install the ati propritarye driver?
[11:11] <alexicon> !ati
[11:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:17] <parkerw207> i dont suppose anyone can help me getting linux on my ipod ?
[11:18] <JohnFlux2> parkerw207: #handhelds
[11:18] <parkerw207> ok thanks
[11:18] <JohnFlux2> parkerw207: and #opie etc should be able to point you in the right place
[11:19] <JohnFlux2> opie has nothing to do with linux on the ipod, but they are smart guys and know about that sort of thing
[11:19] <parkerw207> ooo ok thanks
[11:20] <scotty> How can I make Firefox the default web browser, instead of Konq?
[11:22] <soulrider> scotty: hold on, ill tell you in a sec
[11:22] <scotty> thanks, soulrider
[11:22] <soulrider> scotty: system settings > default applications
[11:22] <soulrider> you can change it there
[11:24] <parkerw207> gusy when i try to use the linux installer for ipod
[11:24] <parkerw207> i get this message
[11:24] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <parkerw207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5325/
[11:25] <scotty> soulrider: I owe you one. Thanks a bunch.
[11:26] <soulrider> no prob
[11:27] <parkerw207> anyone ?
[11:28] <mau12> How can I setup the page in ofpenoffice writer to change it into landscape
[11:30] <edmund__> we
[11:32] <hamit> trke bilen varm aranzda arkadalar
[11:33] <mau12> Help, I'm using openoffice for my first time and I don't know how setting up the page to set a landscape one, somebody could help me?
[11:34] <samiam010203> anyone using samab on feisty and having issues with it?
[11:34] <samiam010203> i ment samba
[11:35] <soulrider> mau12: i dont know but maybe if youa sk int he open office channel
[11:35] <ant> its in the menu bar
[11:36] <mau12> soulrider: how can i get into the openoffice chanel?
[11:36] <parkerw207> hello miles
[11:37] <parkerw207> look i can see your on ntl :)
[11:37] <parkerw207> http://bersirc.free2code.net/index.php/downloads/
[11:37] <parkerw207> oops
[11:37] <parkerw207> miles :S?
[11:37] <Milesc1989> willlll lol
[11:37] <parkerw207> calm down
[11:37] <Milesc1989> ok
[11:38] <parkerw207> anyone here no how to sort out dependencies ?
[11:38] <parkerw207> this linux ipod installer wnt work
[11:38] <soulrider> mau12: maybe #openoffice or #openoffice.org
[11:39] <parkerw207> miles can you help?
[11:39] <Milesc1989> yoru joking right?
[11:39] <parkerw207> lol
[11:39] <parkerw207> anyone?
[11:39] <Milesc1989> MEEEEEEEEEEEE
[11:39] <parkerw207> miles calm down
[11:40] <Milesc1989> lol ok
[11:40] <parkerw207> this is for support not childness
[11:40] <jay> does anyone here know how to get xmodmap to recognize my Super keys?
[11:41] <jay> right now xmodmap prints out this: mod4        Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80)
[11:42] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[11:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:43] <mluser> anyone know of a way to make aptitude think a package is already installed? Is it possible to 'inject' a package into the database when its not really installed?
[11:45] <ScottK> mluser: Why would you want to do that?
[11:48] <parkerw207> hey guys miles was thinking of getting kubuntu , could you give him a few tips about it ? like its positive points ?
[11:49] <|Daisuke_Ido|> it's...  not windows?
[11:49] <Milesc1989> lol
[11:49] <parkerw207> thats a good point :)
[11:49] <parkerw207> he's worried its gonna be too complicated for him
[11:49] <|Daisuke_Ido|> seriously though, it's a stable full-featured OS with plenty of community support
[11:49] <parkerw207> though if i can get used to it ,... anyone can :O
[11:49] <xpoint> even if its ubuntu ?
[11:49] <|Daisuke_Ido|> yes, there's some learning involved.
[11:49] <T3hWiz0r1> can anyone help me with beryl? it seems to be running very slow on my computer... and i think it may be due to the guide i followed.
[11:50] <|Daisuke_Ido|> but it's nothing that can't be overcome fairly quickly
[11:50] <JohnFlux2> T3hWiz0r: what video card
[11:50] <T3hWiz0r1> !beryl
[11:50] <parkerw207> miles is on an advanced IT course
[11:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:52] <|Daisuke_Ido|> Milesc1989: you should have no problems in that case.
[11:52] <|Daisuke_Ido|> a bit of advice though (just from my own experience), it's far easier to make the switch if you *don't* dual boot.
[11:53] <|Daisuke_Ido|> that makes it too easy to backslide to windows
[11:53] <underdog5004> I agree
[11:53] <underdog5004> although it is helpful for beginners
[11:53] <samiam010203> thats what i tell people all the time "dont doul boot just make the switch"
[11:53] <Milesc1989> i see thank you
[11:53] <underdog5004> of course, if they _don't_ like linux, then they're pretty screwed...
[11:54] <samiam010203> then they can go back to windows
[11:54] <|Daisuke_Ido|> not necessarily
[11:54] <parkerw207> who'd wanna go back there :S
[11:54] <parkerw207> seriously lol
[11:54] <|Daisuke_Ido|> they can go back to windows, as long as any other partitions are fat32, they'll still be perfectly readable upon reinstalling windows
[11:55] <|Daisuke_Ido|> parkerw207: agreed, but hardcore gamers wouldn't see it that way (yet)
[11:55] <parkerw207> miles isnt a hard core gamer
[11:55] <parkerw207> are you miles lol
[11:55] <samiam010203> i dont see how you could go back. if you give kubuntu a chance you will see the shere power of it is more than windows ever could be
[11:56] <Milesc1989> no im not
[11:56] <parkerw207> what do you use your pc for most miles ?
[11:57] <Greib> can I jump in with a quick question?
[11:57] <parkerw207> go for it
[11:57] <Milesc1989> haha basic stuff like work and just internet and talking.
[11:57] <parkerw207> yeah but we gotta start programming soon as well
[11:57] <parkerw207> and using oracle database software
[11:57] <Greib> I was messing around with the settings in konsole and I added a command that makes it open and close immediately
[11:57] <Milesc1989> yeah would that make a difference?
[11:58] <samiam010203> yes, programing im trying to teach myself C++
[11:58] <Greib> is there a specific file I should look at to remove the command and get it working again?
[11:58] <parkerw207> well no you can develop code in windows of course , buts i find it easier suing linux
[11:59] <hatta> are you from SCO?
[11:59] <parkerw207> !kubuntu
[11:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:59] <parkerw207> read that miles
[12:00] <Milesc1989> yeah i did
[12:00] <underdog5004> rofl @ hatta
[12:00] <parkerw207> there is loads of different versions of linux
[12:00] <parkerw207> i played around with alot but found kubuntu to be hte most easiest
[12:01] <Milesc1989> you dont have kubuntu i though>
[12:01] <parkerw207> yes i do lol
[12:01] <parkerw207> i had open suse to start with
[12:01] <parkerw207> but i didnt like that
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[12:01] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:01] <parkerw207> now i have kubuntu
[12:01] <Milesc1989> oh yehai remembr
[12:01] <Milesc1989> is that the one i like/
[12:03] <parkerw207> i need help guys
[12:03] <parkerw207> for some reason i cant use the ipod installer
[12:03] <parkerw207> cos libcrypto.so.0.9.7 isnt installed
[12:03] <parkerw207> but i dont know how to get it :S
[12:04] <parkerw207> anyone ?
[12:06] <underdog5004> !search libcrypto.so.0.9.7
[12:06] <ubotu> Found:
[12:06] <soulrider> hi
[12:06] <underdog5004> !find libcrypto.so.0.9.7
[12:06] <ubotu> File libcrypto.so.0.9.7 found in libssl0.9.7, libssl0.9.7-dbg, vmware-player
[12:06] <underdog5004> parkerw207, I think you just might need to apt-get install it
[12:06] <parkerw207> i did that
[12:07] <parkerw207> i searched for it in apt
[12:07] <underdog5004> hmmm, I can't help you past that...sorry
[12:07] <parkerw207> and tis not there
[12:07] <parkerw207> aww ok well tahnsk anyway
[12:09] <shadowhywind> has anyone ever heard of ndiswrapper slowing down their computer
[12:10] <samiam010203> never herd of that happening
[12:11] <Greib> parkerw207 you can use alien to convert it if you find it as rpm on rpmfind.net or dpkg to install a .deb if its not on aptget
[12:11] <T3hWiz0r2> okay i tried to ask in the actual ubuntu-effects channel, which is zero help. I installed beryl only to discover that its running really slow for me. I've followed the ubuntu wiki but seem to still be stuck on why its so slow.
[12:11] <T3hWiz0r2> can anyone help me out? its on kde desktop
[12:11] <shadowhywind> its like everytime i try to connect to a wireless network *doesn't matter what encyption* my computer will start running slow.. to the point of stopping
[12:11] <samiam010203> whats you graphics card
[12:12] <shadowhywind> T3hWiz)r2 did you change rendering modes at all?
[12:12] <T3hWiz0r2> shadowhywind: no
[12:13] <shadowhywind> right click on the red diamond, go to advanced beryl options -> rendering modes and try copy
[12:13] <T3hWiz0r2> shadowhywind: on all of them?
[12:14] <shadowhywind> no just for the rendering mode
[12:14] <T3hWiz0r2> shadowhywind: i don't see a rendering mode, just paths