[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84484 in ubuntu-doc "Launchpad recommends translating ubuntu-doc's main--deleted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84484
[10:58] <mdke_> god launchpad makes me mad sometimes
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84499 in rosetta "Unchecking "Uses Rosetta Officially" should hide all translations for a product" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84499
[11:30] <kiko-afk> mdke_, what did we do now?
[11:39] <mdke_> kiko-afk: I've sent an email. I'm sorry to be a bit grumpy :(
[11:40] <kiko-afk> oh.
[11:41] <mdke_> still no doubt you've had much grumpier
[11:42] <kiko-afk> well there's a bug which prevents me from doing the cleaning up
[11:42] <kiko-afk> and matsubara told me last week it was fixed
[11:42] <kiko-afk> and it hasn't been
[11:43] <mdke_> so there is work going on towards fixing it?
[11:43] <kiko-afk> well
[11:43] <kiko-afk> ther is work going on towards allowing admins to move them to unused products
[11:44] <kiko-afk> to be honest deleting anything in launchpad is pretty difficult because of referential integrity
[11:44] <mdke_> yeah, I know the bug is hard to fix, I've heard that before. But it doesn't mean there shouldn't be any sign of willingness to fix it on the bug report
[11:44] <kiko-afk> mdke_, it's hard to prioritize with such a wide userbase, seriously
[11:45] <mdke_> yeah
[11:45] <kiko-afk> take yesterday. mdz comes in and complains about debian bug watches. you complain about series deletion. mark complains that beta isn't getting done fast enough. and I am annoyed because 20 pages are crashing because of a hard limit added to an API.
[11:45] <kiko-afk> and this is a saturday!
[11:50] <mdke_> yes
[11:51] <mdke_> kiko-afk: that's partly what I mean when I worry about launchpad having been put to serious use by Ubuntu at a very early stage in its development
[11:51] <kiko-afk> the worst part is
[11:51] <kiko-afk> I am unable to fix this bug
[11:51] <kiko-afk> it's not a very early stage, though, tbh
[11:51] <kiko-afk> it's just that its development has been uneven
[11:52] <kiko-afk> I can't reproduce the @!@#!# permission bug
[11:52] <mdke_> which one is that?
[11:52] <kiko-afk> allowing me to +review series
[11:52] <kiko-afk> I can reproduce it live
[11:52] <kiko-afk> but not in sampledata
[11:53] <mdke_> ah. Well I suppose the workaround would probably be helpful, although even then depending on admins isn't ideal.
[11:53] <kiko-afk> there is nothing more frustrating than not being able to solve a problem users are having
[11:54] <mdke_> well, that's because you care, which is something I never doubted :)
[11:54] <mdke_> the LP developers are really special. But it doesn't stop me being grumpy sometimes
[11:55] <kiko-afk> now I"m grumpy because I can't reproduce this @!#4$! bug
[11:55] <mdke_> let's both un-grump, it's a sunday
[11:55] <ajmitch> kiko-afk: as grumpy as we may be at times, we appreciate the work that goes into LP
[11:56] <mdke_> that's what I was trying to say, yeah :)
[11:56] <kiko-afk> oh I know what is wrong here
[11:56] <kiko-afk> @*!&#@##$
[11:56] <kiko-afk> BUTTSOURCE
[11:56] <kiko-afk> god damned permissions bullshit
[11:57] <kiko-afk> DONE
[11:57] <kiko-afk> fuck you buttsource
[11:58] <kiko-afk> for context
[11:58] <kiko-afk> buttsource is a special team that has some permissions that launchpad admins don't
[11:58] <kiko-afk> I forgot about that but just ran into it in the code
[11:58] <kiko-afk> so I went and added myself to the team
[11:59] <mdke_> I thought you were just swearing gratuitously
[11:59] <kiko-afk> I could never understand the meaning of that team name
[11:59] <kiko-afk> until now
[12:00] <ajmitch> it's a creative team name
[12:00] <mdke_> haha
[12:01] <ajmitch> gar, oops on beta
[12:02] <kiko-afk> ajmitch, there's one which steve fixed which apparently hasn't been rolled out yet
[12:02] <kiko-afk> yeah
[12:03] <ajmitch> beta is looking nicer though :)
[12:13] <mdke_> kiko-afk: wow thanks
[12:14] <kiko-afk> you're welcome
[12:14] <kiko-afk> let me try and find some food now
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84513 in launchpad "Constrain displaynames to 60 characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84513
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84516 in rosetta "Copy text doesn't work from chosen selected language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84516
[01:07] <Mez> can someone disable LP to email this user
[01:07] <Mez> liam-intermedia-online
[01:07] <Mez> their auto-reply is bouncing
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84517 in rosetta "Saving a translation equal to the original English sometimes doesn't works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84517
[02:57] <schizoschaf> hi. I have created a gpg key for launchpad. I dont know how to find out  'key-id' for 'gpg --send-key key-id'
[02:58] <Gwaihir> schizoschaf: use `gpg --list-keys' and the check the output
[02:59] <schizoschaf> Gwaihir, i did. i tried everything from that output 
[03:00] <schizoschaf> Gwaihir, it worked now. thanks
[03:00] <Gwaihir> ok! ;)
[06:42] <gesslar> on the launchpad website, there's a specific translation i want to suggest an alternate for but there are 2225 results for this application. is there a better way to find it than just to click page to page of 223 pages looking for a specific item?
[06:44] <mdke_> gesslar: not really, at the moment. 
[06:46] <mdke_> you can try downloading the po file and searching for it in your text editor
[06:46] <gesslar> i got that
[06:46] <gesslar> but i don't know what to do with it
[06:46] <mdke_> yeah
[06:46] <mdke_> if you're not a translator for that particular application, you can't upload it again
[06:47] <mdke_> you could get in touch with the relevant translation group and ask them to upload your change
[06:47] <gesslar> it looks like someone used babel to translate something and ...it just sounds weird to me
[06:47] <gesslar> hehe
[06:50] <gesslar> thanks for your help, mdke_
[06:51] <mdke_> ok
[06:57] <gesslar> woohoo!
[06:58] <gesslar> found it!