[12:49] <Dante123> Hi all! I would like to reinstall Ubuntu on a partition on my HD.....however........I want to make sure that I do not mess up the other OS on there.....(Windoze) as this computer belongs to the school where I teach......how do I go about reinstalling Ubuntu....and still leave the Grub setup as is......any suggestions or tips are appreciated....thanks.
[12:50] <Dante123> I should add that Windoze is on a separate partition....but boots first on grub
[12:56] <nalioth> Dante123: if you're reinstalling it, just do it.  it'll find and add windows automatically (or you can do the custom install and skip the grub installation)
[06:16] <CppIsWeird> is there anyone in here that will help me out with user permissions and groups?
[06:17] <nalioth> CppIsWeird: if you ask the question, there maybe someone here to look at it
[06:19] <CppIsWeird> ok, well im trying to create or use an existing group to grant certain users full read write modify access to apache's /var/www
[06:19] <CppIsWeird> i found that there is an existing group called www-data
[06:19] <CppIsWeird> and i added the users i wish to have access to this folder to that group
[06:19] <CppIsWeird> however, they can still not do things in the folder
[06:20] <CppIsWeird> so how do i go about correcting this
[06:20] <nalioth> have you asked in ##linux? or #ubuntu ?
[06:21] <CppIsWeird> i thought this was a place that thought you to do things
[06:22] <nalioth> yes, we do bring folks here to help them, but you brought this up out of the blue
[06:25] <CppIsWeird> ... i don't really see the difference. but alright.
[03:41] <xratex> df
[03:41] <LjL> xratex: i mean in a console ;)
[03:41] <xratex> =P
[03:41] <xratex> k
[03:41] <LjL> xratex: see if you aren't running out of disk space on some partition
[03:41] <xratex> nope, its ok
[03:42] <LjL> xratex: ok, so give me the exact output that you get from typing  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg 
[03:42] <xratex> k
[03:42] <xratex> its in spanish so i'll do my best
[03:42] <LjL> xratex: give it in spanish
[03:42] <LjL> don't change it, just give me the verbatim output
[03:43] <xratex> <<< "xserver-xorg" is broken or it's not fully installed >>> that. but in spanish
[03:43] <xratex> ops
[03:43] <xratex> nono sry
[03:43] <xratex> that's not it
 "Fallo de segmentacion" (core dumped) >>< its like segmentation fail or something like that
[03:44] <LjL> indeed - you mentioned a segmentation fault. please give the *full* output from when you type the command to when you're back to the prompt
[03:44] <xratex> thats all it says
[03:45] <LjL> and the  "xserver-xorg" is broken or it's not fully installed  ? where does it give you this?
[03:45] <xratex> after i put the apt-get install xserver-xorg, thats all it says
[03:46] <LjL> so it says *first* that xserver-xorg is broken, and, *then* segmentation fault?
[03:46] <xratex> first segmentation, then core dumped
[03:46] <LjL> no
[03:46] <LjL> segmentation fault and core dumped are the same thing
[03:46] <LjL> listen - really - just *copy and paste the full output*
[03:47] <LjL> from when you type the command to when you're back to the prompt
[03:47] <xratex> w8 ill reboot that comp
[03:47] <LjL> and this error: "xserver-xorg" is broken or it's not fully installed  <---- you gave it *before* the apt-get install xserver-xorg. where does it come from?
[03:47] <LjL> why reboot?
[03:47] <xratex> i made a mess.. let me explain again
[03:48] <xratex> the "not fully instaled & broken" is when i do the dpkg reconfigure
[03:48] <LjL> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:48] <xratex> ayea
[03:49] <LjL> xratex: paste the file /etc/apt/sources.list into the site that i give you now
[03:49] <LjL> !pastebin
[03:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:49] <xratex> i cant, im in text mode and the ubuntu pc is next to meh :O i cant copy paste it =/
[03:51] <LjL> xratex: try "sudo apt-get install gpm", see if it works (gpm is for copying and pasting - but the command will probably not work)
[03:53] <xratex> core dumped again
[03:54] <LjL> xratex: ok, type this command      cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v "ubuntu\.com" | grep -v "#"
[03:54] <LjL> does it say anything?
[03:57] <xratex> "-bash: grep-v: order not found" cat: /etc/apt/sources.list: file not found
[03:58] <LjL> there is a space between "grep" and "-v"
[03:58] <xratex> i did put it
[03:59] <LjL> well i still think you mistyped something... otherwise that error is very weird
[03:59] <LjL> try typing just
[03:59] <LjL> ls  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <xratex> "/etc/apt/sorces.list"
[04:00] <xratex> thats all it says
[04:00] <LjL> yes. this means the file exists, and you typed somethng wrong earlier
[04:00] <xratex> ok ill retype
[04:01] <LjL>  cat   /etc/apt/sources.list   |   grep   -v   "ubuntu\.com"   |   grep   -v   "#"
[04:02] <xratex> ok now it says something
[04:02] <LjL> i need to know what, if it's not too long
[04:03] <xratex> "deb http://antesis.freeconrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free-non free    (3 of that kind) and one woth automatix one with canonical
[04:03] <xratex> with*
[04:05] <LjL> breezy? wait you have breezy?
[04:05] <LjL> !automatix
[04:05] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:06] <LjL> xratex: ^ i'm afraid your system is seriously messed up
[04:06] <xratex> T-T format?
[04:07] <LjL> afraid so
[04:07] <LjL> and don't use automatix next (or third-party repositories in general, unless you know very well what you're doing)
[04:07] <xratex> kk
[04:07] <LjL> xratex: anyway, type  apt-cache policy libc6 , and tell me the version
[04:07] <xratex> kk
[04:10] <xratex> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room //////  E: error while processing xubuntu-system-tools ////E: problem with Mergelist /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-proposed_main_binary-i386_Packages
[04:11] <LjL> .... edgy-proposed?
[04:11] <LjL> what kind of mess do you have in your repositories?
[04:11] <xratex> oO dont know
[04:11] <LjL> yeah that's the problem -- you don't know
[04:11] <LjL> you have a mixture of repositories that go from Breezy to Edgy
[04:11] <LjL> that's three versions of Ubuntu
[04:11] <LjL> then you have automatix
[04:12] <LjL> and then you have edgy-proposed, which should *never* be used by *anyone* except for testing
[04:12] <LjL> these things don't get added by magic, if they're there it means that you added them
[04:12] <LjL> so
[04:12] <LjL> 1) don't use automatix
[04:12] <LjL> 2) don't follow ubuntuguide
[04:13] <LjL> 3) don't blindly listen to people in #ubuntu-es or whatever who tell you to add random lines to your repository list
[04:13] <LjL> ... and reinstall, since this is beyond any hope
[04:13] <xratex> kk
[04:13] <xratex> the problem is that im trying to learn, so i touch everything and this is what it happens
[04:13] <xratex> so, where am i supposed to find help when i need to??
[04:15] <LjL> #ubuntu is a good place, but you still need to take suggestions with a grain of salt..
[04:15] <LjL> xratex: most importantly of all, *NEVER* add repositories if you don't know *FOR SURE* that they will work
[04:15] <LjL> xratex: if they're mentioned on http://help.ubuntu.com , they're probably ok, otherwise, NOT
[04:16] <xratex> ok, how am i supposed to save some things?
[04:16] <xratex> got 2 hdds
[04:16] <LjL> well save them on the second HD
[04:16] <xratex> i dont know anything bout text mode
[04:17] <LjL> xratex: well, maybe i can get you back to X temporarily
[04:17] <LjL> xratex: type the following (carefully!)
[04:17] <xratex> k
[04:17] <LjL> xratex:    sudo sed -i.backup "s/nvidia/vesa/" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:17] <xratex> nvidia?
[04:17] <xratex> got ati oO
[04:18] <LjL> aah yeah sorry
[04:18] <LjL> xratex:    sudo sed -i.backup "s/fglrx/vesa/" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:19] <xratex> done
[04:19] <LjL> xratex: now do  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart 
[04:19] <LjL> you're using GNOME, right?
[04:19] <xratex> yup
[04:20] <Turgon> I had "proposed updates" activated at the "Software Origins" manager. I'll uncheck that option before I mess my computer.
[04:20] <LjL> Turgon: that's a very good idea.
[04:21] <Turgon> (thx for discussing it here) =)
[04:21] <LjL> i'm not even sure why proposed updates is listed there, actually...
[04:21] <LjL> seems crazy to me
[04:21] <xratex> LjL, nope, doesent work.. if i open with live CD my i burn some info in dvd?
[04:21] <LjL> xratex: yes
[04:21] <xratex> may*
[04:21] <xratex> cool
[04:21] <xratex> kk. format then, thanx alot for the help
[04:21] <LjL> xratex: you'll need to know how to mount the hard drives, though
[04:22] <xratex> oO
[04:22] <LjL> xratex: unless it's done automatically by the live cd
[04:22] <xratex> something like mount -all?
[04:22] <xratex> kk brb
[04:22] <LjL> hm, i'm afraid it's going to be more complicated than that
[04:23] <xratex> kk lets see
[04:23] <xratex> im starting live cd, may take a while
[04:27] <xratex> not mounted =/
[04:33] <jrib> still need to pastebin some stuff without X?
[04:34] <xratex> ill format
[04:34] <xratex> how do i mount the hdd in live cd?
[04:35] <jrib> xratex: first you need to find out /dev/FOOBAR for the partition you want to mount, 'sudo fdisk -l' command usually helps with that if you don't already know it
[04:38] <xratex> "/sda"
[04:39] <jrib> xratex: I think it's usually /dev/sda1 for the first partition on /dev/sda .  Do you know which partition you want to mount?
[04:40] <xratex> hmm dont know
[04:41] <jrib> xratex: what does  sudo fdisk -l  show?
[04:41] <xratex> disk /dev/hdb   /dev/sda //////// parition /dev/hda7
[04:42] <jrib> copy and paste the actual output
[04:43] <xratex> ?
[04:43] <jrib> xratex: when you run the command  'sudo fdisk -l'  you get something different than "disk /dev/hdb   /dev/sda //////// parition /dev/hda7" right?  Just copy the actual output and paste it here so we can see it
[04:44] <xratex> ok but most of it is in spanish :/
[04:44] <jrib> xratex: then run it like this:  'LANGUAGE=en_US sudo fdisk -l'  without the '' quotes
[04:47] <xratex> "here disk is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda/ and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7.  -u: give start and end in sector (instead of cylinder) units.   -b 2048 (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors"
[04:47] <xratex> thats all it says
[04:48] <jrib> I don't understand why you don't just paste the full output
[04:48] <xratex> becouse im not in that computer
[04:48] <jrib> does that computer have internet access?
[04:49] <xratex> that one is next to me, and im in al lan.. live cd doesent bring xchat, and i'll have to configure everything to have interent acces by lan
[04:50] <xratex> i just need to mount that to save all my htmls from my website
[04:50] <xratex> that are hosted in apache on that computer
[04:50] <jrib> xratex: you see the "System" column in the output?
[04:50] <xratex> yup
[04:51] <jrib> which devices have "Linux" as the "System"?
[04:52] <xratex> hda1 is linux,  hda2 is extended, and hda5 is the swap
[04:53] <jrib> ok, 'sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1'
[04:54] <xratex> cool, mounted already :) thanks
[04:54] <jrib> make sure that's the right partition now :)
[07:44] <Psy> hello
[07:46] <xratex> how was the command to see if my 3d driver is working
[07:48] <xratex> how was the command to see if my 3d driver is working?
[08:03] <xratex> anyone knows how to mount and write ntfs partitions?
[08:05] <nalioth> xratex: use Windows(tm)
[08:06] <xratex> ?
[08:07] <nalioth> writing to NTFS is unstable in linux, and can lead to total ntfs partition losss
[08:08] <xratex> well it's my choice to decide if i'll risk my hdd right?
[08:13] <nalioth> !ntfs
[08:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse