[01:00] <PriceChild> BearPerson, guessing I can clear -unregged now?
[01:00] <BearPerson> yeah
[01:00] <BearPerson> I hope there won't be any bots sneaking in just after I set -r, but there's always the possibility
[01:00] <BearPerson> hrm
[01:05] <PriceChild> BearPerson, #ubuntu-unregegd
[01:05] <BearPerson> wow
[01:06] <PriceChild> wow?
[01:07] <LjL> funny, what do they gain by exploiting -unregged
[01:08] <BearPerson> they probably missed
[01:08] <PriceChild> a "newb" handler? :P
[01:09] <BearPerson> hmm, though no joins in #ubuntu around that time to trigger the +J
[01:09] <PriceChild> +J isn't on?
[01:10] <BearPerson> well, at least a few of them would have to have ended up in #ubuntu, if they had tried to join there
[01:10] <Hobbsee> awww, i missed them!
[01:11] <nalioth> Hobbsee: they got klined autoagically
[01:11] <SportChick> they gain new stature?  incompetent spammers?
[01:11] <Hobbsee> nalioth: nice
[01:14] <variant> lo all, just thought I would point out this: http://rafb.net/p/7qrwSm80.html
[01:15] <nalioth> without a channel or other context, it's pretty much cruft, to me.
[01:16] <variant> sorry, #ubuntu i thouht that would be fairly obvious :)
[01:17] <nalioth> noted, variant
[01:18] <nalioth> all ya gotta say is "holycow" is showing his ass
[01:18] <mc44> he is indeed
[01:18] <LjL> yeah
[01:18] <Tm_T> Hah, glad #kubuntu is LOT nicer it seems.
[01:19] <Tm_T> Quieter too I guess.
[01:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wow.
[01:24] <LjL> mc44: i should have banned him, but i couldn't really follow #ubuntu right then... anyway, he won't have to wait if he starts it again
[01:25] <mc44> he seems to have gone now
[01:25] <LjL> mc44: no, no, he's still in
[01:25] <mc44> yeah i see that now :)
[01:27] <LjL> omg now variant is attacking
[01:28] <mc44> sighs*
[01:31] <PriceChild> Where's that website with the tor users on and their details?
[01:32] <nalioth> !tor
[01:32] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[01:32] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[01:33] <nalioth> PriceChild: ^^^
[01:33] <PriceChild> thanks nalioth :)
[01:50] <Hobbsee> not me
[01:50] <Hobbsee> SportChick: probably jono
[01:51] <SportChick> Hobbsee: hrm...can't remember his real name
[01:51] <Hobbsee> SportChick: jono bacon
[01:51] <Hobbsee> SportChick: beard, hat, with beer in hand, most likely.  talkative guy
[01:52] <SportChick> hehe
[01:52] <SportChick> hrm....soooo many people
[01:52] <SportChick> they sort of all blend together now....
[01:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:53] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:53] <mc44> if it were jono Im sure you would remeber :)
[01:54] <SportChick> mc44: not so sure...
[01:55] <PriceChild> SportChick, http://planet.ubuntu.com/heads/jono.png
[01:55] <SportChick> mc44: we talked to someone at EVERY booth except maybe 5
[01:55] <SportChick> PriceChild: can't click right now :(  on the phone
[01:55] <PriceChild> lol SportChick :)
[01:55] <mc44> but you can type!! :)
[01:56] <SportChick> mc44: yes...but my phone is not multitasking..i can IRC *or* browse but not both at once
[02:00] <LjL> SportChick: *not multitasking*? they put kitchen sinks in those things, and the stupid OS cannot multitask? blah
[02:01] <SportChick> LjL: it's Palm OS
[02:01] <LjL> ah. that explains it :P
[02:01] <SportChick> :)
[02:01] <SportChick> I thought it might :D
[02:01] <Minataku> Ah, half-multitasking
[02:02] <LjL> no it's just as single-tasking as single-tasking can get
[02:02] <Minataku> Ah
[02:02] <Minataku> Right, I haven't used PalmOS in ages
[02:02] <Minataku> My last Palm was a IIIxe
[02:02] <LjL> though SportChick, on the other hand that's probably still better than certain PDA operating systems i know of, which multitask without telling you, and crash with fireworks :P
[02:02] <Minataku> Last of the non-color ones, I believe
[02:03] <Minataku> Heehee, if you're gonna go out take everything with you
[02:03] <Minataku> I hate programs/OSes that do that
[02:03] <Minataku> If you're gonna die do it safely and gracefully
[02:04] <Minataku> Clean up and keep everything else out of it
[02:05] <SportChick> Minataku: well it works for me and it's WAY better than that horrible windows platform
[02:06] <Minataku> There are PDAs that run Linux
[02:06] <SportChick> it's simply that on occasion, I have to wait until I'm on my laptop to click
[02:07] <SportChick> Minataku: yes, but none that runs on this phone (it is not simply a pda) or that is supported by my wireless provider
[02:07] <SportChick> (on this phone)
[02:07] <Minataku> Why don't you get a phone that makes phone calls and a PDA that does PDA things?
[02:08] <Minataku> Instead of some mixture that's half-assed at both tasks?
[02:08] <mc44> because then youd have to carry two things around with you?
[02:10] <SportChick> Minataku: because i LIKE it all in one
[02:11] <SportChick> and it is not half-assed...just because YOU don't like the solution doesn't mean *I* don't
[02:11] <holycow> hey
[02:11] <holycow> was i devoiced from #ubuntu?
[02:11] <LjL> yes
[02:11] <holycow> lol
[02:11] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm just of the mind that if it's a phone it should make phone calls... period
[02:11] <mc44> LjL: hah
[02:12] <LjL> sometimes simple answers are best
[02:12] <SportChick> Minataku: then that is the sort of phone YOU should get
[02:13] <Minataku> SportChick: Woah, calm down, you're acting like I usually do when I hear someone say something I don't like
[02:13] <SportChick> however, MY phone makes calls, browses the net, runs irssi, tracks contacts & calendars, takes photos & mini movies, plays music & podcasts and even has books on it :)
[02:14] <SportChick> Minataku: I'm simply disagreeing with you
[02:14] <Minataku> Yeah, but I can sense the urge to jab me in the chest with your finger on that "YOU" there
[02:18] <SportChick> Minataku: you are somewhat mistaken.  I was simply reacting to your strong criticism of what I like, suggesting that you do as you wish and I will do as I wish
[02:18] <LjL> i'm sorry i started this
[02:18] <LjL> but perhaps it's time to move to -offtopic?
[02:18] <Minataku> lol
[02:19] <Minataku> Sorry, SportChick and everyone else
[02:19] <SportChick> LjL: I really don't feel the need to continue the discussion at all.  Sorry everyone, too
[02:20] <mc44> iPhone!
[02:24] <elkbuntu> eternaljoy is now banned from -au for being an obnoxious little prick. i'll let you guys know when he ban evades
[02:25] <LjL> hm, he wasn't banned since august
[02:25] <elkbuntu> LjL, he has many nicks and likes proxies
[02:26] <LjL> hm
[02:26] <elkbuntu> now he's pm'ing me
[02:26] <LjL> the eternaljoy nick is certainly one i'm familiar with, though
[02:26] <elkbuntu> eternaljoy, you are banned for harassing. dont try worm out of it.
[02:26] <Minataku> I wish I had a WeCo 500, but that's offtopic so I'll stop now XD
[02:27] <elkbuntu> and please stop PMing me
[02:27] <eternaljoy> elkbuntu: ok Melissa
[02:27] <eternaljoy> elkbuntu: not worming, just asking
[02:27] <eternaljoy> elkbuntu: am I banned for life?
[02:27] <eternaljoy> mneptok: hehe
[02:27] <elkbuntu> until i feel like unbanning. considering you have a history of ban evasion, probably not very soon
[02:28] <eternaljoy> elkbuntu: I have never evaded a ban
[02:28] <elkbuntu> this is a lie, and you know it
[02:28] <eternaljoy> when?
[02:28] <elkbuntu> the first time you were banned from -au
[02:28] <eternaljoy> hmmm
[02:28] <eternaljoy> well i wont argue that
[02:28] <eternaljoy> ok np. im banned for life
[02:29] <eternaljoy> i understand
[02:29] <elkbuntu> have a nice day
[02:29] <eternaljoy> ditto
[02:29] <eternaljoy> bye
 hi Melissa
 may I ask why you banned me from #ubuntu-au?
 for harrassing adhok
 ok
 am I banned for life?
 i wont spweak to him anymore
[02:30] <mneptok> LIFAHS REPRAHZINT!
[02:30] <mneptok> \ o /
[02:31] <mneptok> mc44: i think there's a Yahoo! group for the like-minded
[02:31] <elkbuntu> @lart 37 mneptok
[02:32] <mneptok> mirrorlicious
[02:32] <Minataku> lol
[02:40] <Minataku> mc44: You don't actually support the iPhone... do you? What with Jobs' request for a closed, private development model
[02:40] <mc44> Minataku: so not on topic here
[02:40] <mc44> but yes, cos its shiny
[02:40] <Minataku> (BTW: I wouldn't actually hit you with a WeCo 500.. or any other thing... sorry about that)
[03:21] <elkbuntu> oh lordy, he's in -offtopic now
[03:24] <nalioth> elkbuntu: who dat?
[03:24] <elkbuntu> nalioth, eternaljoy
[03:24] <nalioth> ah, yes
[03:24] <LjL> i think he's quite always there really
[03:24] <elkbuntu> LjL, he didnt seem to be earlier, when he got himself banned from -au
[03:27] <LjL> elkbuntu: maybe not, but grep eternaljoy offtopic.log | wc -l   -->  290 ;)
[03:27] <LjL> which isn't really much, but still
[03:27] <LjL> hah i get 15671
[03:30] <kgoetz> iirc i first saw him in there
[03:37] <elkbuntu> Seveas, you have the #ubuntu-women op banned from here. why?
[03:37] <nalioth> elkbuntu: who would that be?
[03:37] <elkbuntu> pleia2
[03:38] <elkbuntu> the clockbot.net ban
[03:40] <nalioth> interesting
[03:40] <nalioth> elkbuntu: give pleia2 an +e
[03:40] <elkbuntu> a what?
[03:40] <nalioth> and +e
[03:40] <nalioth> bleh
[03:41] <nalioth>  /mode #ubuntu-ops +e *@hostmask-goes-here
[03:42] <nalioth> isn't that the ban that seveas set?
[03:42] <elkbuntu> yes
[03:42] <nalioth> then don't do it
[03:43] <elkbuntu> make up your freaking mind
[03:43] <kgoetz> set the exeption for just the person, not anyone (or you may as well pull out the ban)
[03:44] <nalioth>  /mode #ubuntu-ops +e pleia2!*@*
[03:45] <elkbuntu> so are you sure i can.. you know, since you said 'don't do it' the last time
[03:47] <elkbuntu> she is afterall the only one to have ever used that hostmask
[03:53] <nalioth> elkbuntu: if that is so, why did seveas set the ban?
[04:00] <Stapol> Hello
[04:05] <elkbuntu> nalioth, the hostmask has 'bot' in it
[04:06] <Minataku> That doesn't necessairly mean it's a bot
[04:07] <Minataku> It could be some guy's hostname
[04:07] <elkbuntu> Minataku, it's some chick's hostname
[04:07] <elkbuntu> but seveas was being cautious
[04:07] <elkbuntu> probably
[04:07] <elkbuntu> we are theorising here, not stating for fact thats why he banned
[04:07] <Minataku> Ah
[04:08] <Minataku> Security is a fickle thing, it's never perfect
[04:08] <Minataku> It's either too leinent or too restrictive
[04:12] <PriceChild> !search tor
[04:12] <ubotu> Found: autostart-#kubuntu, code, xen, newton, kate, blender, icons, nvidia9, compiling, ldap
[04:22] <nalioth> elkbuntu: ah
[04:24] <elkbuntu> its all i can theorise, since she never even spoke in this channel
[04:24] <nalioth> i don't think she's ever BEEN in this channel
[04:24] <nalioth> you'll have to ask him, el
[04:25] <nalioth> kbuntu
[04:33] <ublender> um, #ubuntu-read-topic told me to come here...
[04:34] <ublender> ?
[04:35] <PriceChild> ublender, be patient and an op will be with you shortly
[04:36] <ublender> thanks
[04:36] <PriceChild> I'm afraid I don't have ops in #ubuntu so you'll have to wait for someone else... I'll have a look for someone
[04:37] <ublender> thx
[04:41] <PriceChild> Amaranth, you have ops in #ubuntu right?
[04:41] <DBO> PriceChild, whats up?
[04:41] <PriceChild> DBO, could you test ublender ?
[04:41] <PriceChild> He's waiting ever so patiently :)
[04:42] <DBO> ublender, to #DBO please
[04:44] <PriceChild> Thanks :)
[04:45] <DBO> hes AFK it seems
[04:47] <ublender> er, sry bout that
[04:47] <DBO> ok
[04:47] <DBO> unbanned
[04:47] <ublender> thx
[04:48] <variant> lo, holycow and blablahbla in #ubuntu are the same person. seems to be there for the sole purpose of irritating people
[04:49] <DBO> looking
[04:49] <nalioth> not cloning
[04:50] <variant> well, he/she is very annoying.. seems to moderate that fact with the odd bit of random help. it's up to you if you want to leave him there obviously..
[04:51] <variant> cya
[04:51] <nalioth> variant with vendetta
[04:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nuke them all from orbit.
[04:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's the only way to be sure.
[04:52] <Madpilot> PuMpErNiCkLe, I think you're mistaking being a chanop with being on a bug hunt...
[04:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Possibly.  They're similar, ya know. :)
[04:57] <Madpilot> IRC users might drool, but they probably don't drool acid ;)
[05:06] <mneptok> WE'RE FSCKED FOREVER! GAME OVER! GAME OVER, MAN!
[05:07] <nalioth> @lart 37 mneptok
[05:07] <kgoetz> hi Hobbsee
[05:08] <Hobbsee> oookay?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> hey kgoetz!
[05:08] <kgoetz> :)!
[07:03] <kgoetz> i just noticed locobot_2 has no cloak. is that a mistake/error?
[07:05] <nalioth> kgoetz: disdain?
[07:08] <kgoetz> nalioth: i'm asking :/
[07:08] <nalioth> kgoetz: cloaks are not in some folks' ideas of "have to have"
[07:10] <kgoetz> nalioth: but most ubuntu bots are cloaked. i dont know wether it is an ubuntu bot, but i was wondering
[07:15] <nalioth> not sure what it is
[07:15] <nalioth> but it is silent
[07:15] <nalioth> good night
[07:15] <kgoetz> night
[07:47] <elkbuntu> kgoetz, smurf deals with LoCoBots
[07:47] <elkbuntu> seems all the locobots are uncloaked at the moment
[07:50] <kgoetz> ok. catch you later :)
[09:02] <holycow> allrighty
[09:02] <holycow> can i get a voice again
[09:02] <holycow> its been long enough
[09:06] <holycow> !ops
[09:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:06] <Madpilot> hmm?
[09:06] <elkbuntu> what are you going on about?
[09:06] <holycow> hey
[09:06] <holycow> voice me in #ubuntu again
[09:06] <holycow> its been a few hours
[09:07] <holycow> pls
[09:07] <DBO> he got a mute
[09:07] <Madpilot> ah
[09:07] <elkbuntu> DBO, from whom?
[09:07] <DBO> donno
[09:07] <holycow> no idea
[09:07] <holycow> probably nalioth
[09:08] <elkbuntu> well im not going to mess with the decision of a freenode staffer
[09:08] <DBO> but if a remember correctly it was a stacking of smaller annoyances that made for an overall annoyance
[09:08] <holycow> oh jees you guys are unbelievable
[09:08] <DBO> hmmm?
[09:08] <holycow> you guys always devoice to give people time to cool off
[09:08] <holycow> the only person that has to come in and ask to be voiced again is me
[09:08] <holycow> what the hell i actually help people
[09:08] <DBO> cool down
[09:08] <holycow> i am cool
[09:09] <holycow> quit reading into text, nuances don't translate in plain text, you know that
[09:09] <DBO> sorry
[09:09] <DBO> elkbuntu, is there anything in the bantracker?
[09:09] <elkbuntu> im not logged into it yet
[09:09] <holycow> no biggie at all
[09:09] <holycow> and no rush either
[09:10] <DBO> elkbuntu, well dearie can you do DBO a flavor and check?
[09:10] <holycow> as you have time just let me know when, danke
[09:10] <elkbuntu> if you were really of that opinion, you wouldnt be in here now
[09:11] <holycow> elkbuntu, wow man sometimes you guys are unbelievable
[09:11] <holycow> you really treat the channel as a private club
[09:11] <holycow> i'm of the opinion that i can't believe i haveto ask to be voiced
[09:11] <holycow> everyone else gets back up after a couple of hours
[09:11] <mneptok> holycow: if you care, i read the same tone into "oh jees you guys are unbelievable" and, imo, it's hard not to
[09:11] <holycow> i'm not here to kiss  your as tho
[09:11] <holycow> and frankly
[09:12] <holycow> no one in the channel should be expected to
[09:12] <holycow> it should be PERFECTLY okay to be annoyed
[09:12] <Madpilot> holycow, unless nalioth did something exotic, I can't see a ban for you in place in #ubuntu...
[09:12] <holycow> especially if you are a long time contributing member
[09:12] <holycow> i.e. i've helped a lot of people
[09:12] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, it starts with a %
[09:12] <mneptok> OK, there's NO "nuance" in discussing asskissing
[09:12] <Madpilot> I do see a lot of months-old cruft - it's time to dejunk the banlist
[09:12] <mneptok> chill
[09:12] <holycow> lol
[09:13] <elkbuntu> alot of them are random spambot crap though
[09:13] <Madpilot> ah, found it
[09:13] <holycow> well okay wait till ljl or nalioth come back and discuss thats cool.  i get the  reticence
[09:13] <holycow> and right yeah i wasn't banned this time, primarily because i have tried not to break chan rules and be nice
[09:14] <elkbuntu> your mute is appended with a note that you were insulting users
[09:14] <holycow> lol i dispute that
[09:15] <holycow> mostly people just didn't like my tone
[09:15] <mneptok> holycow: the moment you have to *try* to be nice is exactly one moment *after* you should have walked away from IRC. it's just not worth it.
[09:15] <elkbuntu> then you really need to work on adjusting it
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow
[09:15] <holycow> actually no i refuse to adjust my tone
[09:15] <holycow> this isn't #nazi afterall
[09:16] <elkbuntu> and that is an inappropriate attitude to have in a CoC governed channel
[09:16] <holycow> wow
[09:16] <Madpilot> ... and you were doing OK right up until "#nazi", too...
[09:16] <mneptok> so the only people taht can ask that people speak to each other with respect are nazis?
[09:16] <holycow> Madpilot, well tell me if i'm wrong
[09:16] <holycow> we have rules about politeness and no swearing
[09:16] <holycow> right?
[09:17] <holycow> i agree with that %100 percent
[09:17] <Madpilot> I'd suggest going to sleep it off, holycow. Seriously, you're not doing yourself any favours at this point.
[09:17] <elkbuntu> and being respectful and courteous
[09:17] <holycow> id friendly and gramma friendly
[09:17] <holycow> you cannot seriously think it is morallly okay to 'monitor' my attitude? or anyones for that matter
[09:17] <holycow> elkbuntu, really? and what is the definition of respectfull and courteous?
[09:17] <holycow> especially when others are arrogant, presumptuous and disrespectfull to you?
[09:18] <holycow> i only get your notice because i actually say something back in return
[09:18] <Madpilot> we can't monitor 'attitude'. We can and do monitor what people do & say in the channels we've volunteered to watch over...
[09:18] <holycow> Madpilot, i appreciate  your notice, but that is inappropriate commentary
[09:19] <holycow> nothing i said here is abusive or disrespectful ... i am pointing out a teeny weeny flaw that everyone buys into
[09:19] <mneptok> holycow: i watch you walk the tightrope, pushing at the edges. you help people, and then go *right* to the edge, if not over, the line of acceptable conduct. you then trot out the helpful times as evidence of your contributions, and we lather,rinse, and repeat. it's lame.
[09:19] <Madpilot> Right up until your "#nazi" comment, I was willing to remove your ban. Congrats, you've just blown it.
[09:19] <elkbuntu> anyway, afk for dinner. you now need to wait for nalioth
[09:19] <holycow> Madpilot, again not an insult, i am very courteous and helpfull
[09:19] <holycow> mneptok, and what is the definition of this edge?
[09:20] <holycow> does everyone haveto just sit back and not say anything when something is unjustly said?
[09:20] <Madpilot> holycow, I hereby invoke Godwin's Law, so you loose. Now go sleep it off.
[09:20] <mneptok> it's like porn. i can't define it, but i know it when i see it.
[09:20] <Madpilot> lose, even
[09:20] <Madpilot> gah
[09:20] <holycow> Madpilot, again, i appreciate your comment, it would make sense if i was a noob.  i'm not really trying to piss  you guys off but then i'm not really about to kiss ass.
[09:20] <holycow> i just want to particapate in the community and be real
[09:21] <holycow> mneptok, lol
[09:21] <mneptok> then learn to walk away.
[09:21] <mneptok> like now, for instance.
[09:21] <holycow> walk away from what?
[09:21] <holycow> i didn't insult anyone
[09:21] <mneptok> IRC
[09:22] <holycow> its unfair to monitor attitude, just voice me an dlet me help in the channel.  theres a few problems i saw up there i was just itching to help out on.
[09:23] <holycow> Kamping_Kaiser,  btw hi, although maybe thats not the right thing to say right now
[09:23] <holycow> heh
[09:23] <holycow> Madpilot, the pilot that translates that into 'cozy up to us and we will let you into our club'
[09:24] <holycow> Madpilot, please think about the impllications of what you guys are doing here ... every little step in that direction gets you away from the 'freedom' principles that everyone in here believes in
[09:24] <Madpilot> I don't care if you hate my guts; I do care if you disrupt #ubuntu or compare an entire channel to Nazis
[09:24] <holycow> and i know you do, you wouldn't volunteer or let me talk if you didn't
[09:25] <holycow> i'm sorta holding back a bit because i appreciate that at least one of you is at least talking a bit
[09:26] <holycow> it feel very much that way madpilot when people insist that i cozy up to everyone and be their buddy to get the 'prviledge' of being in the club
[09:26] <holycow> especially when i have put a lot in helping
[09:27] <Madpilot> It's far too late at night here to continue holding circular debates. G'night, all. Go sleep it off, holycow
[09:27] <holycow> dude
[09:28] <holycow> damn shame
[09:28] <holycow> i'm very dissapointed in all of you, not for not voicing me, but seriously taking this type of stand
[09:28] <holycow> if you want to manage a channel and ask people not to take something personally, then lead by example
[10:11] <elkbuntu> what the heck. the individual 'mynick' is also holycow
[10:11] <elkbuntu> as blahblahblah was earlier
[10:12] <Kamping_Kaiser>  `/who *S01060016b6b53675*` is good for finding out such things, i agree.
[10:12] <elkbuntu> yep
[10:13] <elkbuntu> now if only i could find my bantracker password, i'd be able to add 'ban evader' to the comments for his ban
[10:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder if he was like this when i first met him, i remember him being Real Good TM
[10:17] <elkbuntu> he seems to be on the 'i've been here a long time, i can do as i please' attitude
[10:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> true. pity the people hes abusing have been here longer
[10:36] <mneptok> maybe if we promote him to Untersturmbannfuhrer he'll perform better.
[10:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder why he was banned by nick not hostname
[12:40] <Mez> gah
[12:41] <Mez> I think the receptionist at work just thought I was a pervert
[12:42] <PriceChild> Mez, you're not?
[12:42] <Mez> PriceChild, no, but she got a load of heavy breathing ;)
[01:11] <elkbuntu> http://pastebin.ca/350394
[01:12] <ompaul> so there are fools
[01:14] <elkbuntu> he'lll be in here in a sec
[01:15] <Mez> it wasnt a ban forward
[01:15] <ompaul> what you forward them here?
[01:15] <ompaul> since when?
[01:15] <Mez> no - I mean he doesnt seem clever enough to find out how to get here without a forward
[01:15] <ompaul> are you trying to get yourself trolled to death
[01:16] <Mez> any decent troller woulda been in here to start with
[01:16] <elkbuntu> Mez, it wasnt, no, but he'll likely come in with his grievance
[01:16] <Mez> hi Seeker`
[01:17] <elkbuntu> Mez, he's not an intentional troller, just someone who thinks because he helps people, he can be rude and snide
[01:17] <Mez> ah kk
[01:18] <Mez> every time  a nick joins here that I dont recognise immediatly I get jumpy
[01:18] <Seeker`> lo Mez
[01:18] <Mez> I need something that puts the "regulars" in here into a different colour
[01:18] <Mez> then I can recognise new peopel instantly
[01:19] <elkbuntu> ompaul, btw, the fellow was already banevading
[01:19] <ompaul> ohh
[01:19] <ompaul> I was just about to let him back in with a warning
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mez, they have a + ;)
[01:19] <elkbuntu> ompaul, i only let it slide because he was behaving for the most part
[01:19] <Mez> Kamping_Kaiser, Seeker` doesnt
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> Seeker`, </3 :(
[01:19] <elkbuntu> ompaul, his mute is for holycow
[01:20] <ompaul> that is holycow?
[01:20] <elkbuntu> so wouldnt have been obvious in the ban list
[01:20] <elkbuntu> ompaul, yes
[01:20] <Seeker`> Kamping_Kaiser: huh?
[01:20] <elkbuntu> ompaul, nalioth muted him earlier
[01:20] <ompaul> afternoon Seveas
[01:20] <ompaul> then deserved it is
[01:21] <elkbuntu> he came in here a few hours later, after already evading with the nick blahblahblah, to lecture me and Kamping_Kaiser on how he deserves to be let back in because he helps so many people and should be let run free because of this
[01:22] <ompaul> ehh right - I see how that does not work
[01:22] <elkbuntu> but when he starts telling random people that we're fascists, it's not a good thing
[01:22] <ompaul> I am going to move acez to here due to nick changes
[01:22] <ompaul> if I get no answer
[01:23] <Mez> /load tabify.pl
[01:23] <ompaul> unless you guys want a #ubuntu-nickspam where the topic is "change your nick all you want but don't do it in #ubuntu"
[01:24] <elkbuntu> lol
[01:24] <Mez> !ops
[01:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:24] <elkbuntu> !mez
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <Mez> sweet
[01:25] <Mez> higlights now go to a seperate tab
[01:26] <elkbuntu> * * i=4645263e gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-a1cb045c2572c3b2 irc.freenode.net wonderfullday H :0 [S01060016b6b53675.vf.shawcable.net]  IRC@Work User
[01:26] <elkbuntu> he's trying, hehe
[01:28] <elkbuntu> wb pleia2 :)
[01:28] <pleia2> thanks :)
[01:37] <ompaul> elkbuntu, is that our fiend?
[01:37] <elkbuntu> ompaul, that paste above. was. yes.
[01:37] <elkbuntu> doing /who *S01060016b6b53675* will show who/where he is now
[01:38] <elkbuntu> he obvoiusly gave up trying to get in with cgi-irc
[01:43] <ompaul> so ehh he is in #blender
[01:43] <elkbuntu> yep
[01:44] <elkbuntu> @pity #blender
[01:44] <Ubugtu> (pity [<channel>]  [<id>]  <who|what> [for <reason>] ) -- Uses the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool on <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific lart. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
[01:44] <elkbuntu> bah
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:45] <ompaul> yet another nice one in the channel
[02:04] <Mez> anyone here good at python ?
[02:05] <ompaul> !ask
[02:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:05] <elkbuntu> heh
[02:05] <ompaul> and no it is not me :P
[02:05] <elkbuntu> Mez, seveas would *love* to answer your questions :)
[02:05] <Mez> lmao
[02:05] <ompaul> for values of love
[02:05] <Mez> nah, I'm hacking on a script for Xchat that dos ym coloured nicks thing
[02:13] <Mez> can people talk a little please?
[02:19] <Seeker`> is this ok?
[02:20] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu,  lol
[02:22] <effie_jayx> P3L|C4N0,  ping
[02:22] <P3L|C4N0> effie_jayx, pong
[02:24] <ompaul> Mez, no
[02:25] <ompaul> anyone able tell me why a user shows up as their uid in "ps auwx" they have a real name and uid
[02:31] <Seveas> ompaul, that's what the w is for
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> i run that and i get my username
[02:35] <ompaul> Seveas, maybe I asked it wrong
[02:35] <ompaul> 5076      2185  0.0  0.0 25520 3748 pts/0    S    13:21   0:00 -bash
[02:35] <ompaul> why the number not the username
[02:36] <ompaul> what I expected was more like this
[02:36] <ompaul> amanda   26372  0.0  0.2 34432 9244 ?        S    Feb10   0:00 /usr/sbin/rsyncd --daemon
[02:36] <ompaul> or some such
[02:37] <ompaul> what bugs me is I know who the user is and have no clue why she is set up differently I set her up ..
[02:37] <Seveas> ompaul, getent passwd 5076
[02:37] <ompaul> correct user
[02:37] <ompaul> carolinet:x:5076:100:Real Name:/home/carolinet:/bin/bash
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> ompaul, does `\ps auwx` do the same thing?
[02:37] <Seveas> weird
[02:38] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, good catch
[02:38] <ompaul> kk 5076      2185  0.0  0.0 25520 3748 pts/0    S+   13:21   0:00 -bash
[02:38] <ompaul> so it is the ame
[02:38] <ompaul> same
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> how bizare
[02:38] <ompaul> rather
[02:39] <ompaul> I wonder is it ldap
[02:39] <ompaul> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:43] <ompaul> talk about being locked out of your own servers --- they seem to have forgotten I have root - smartalecx
[02:43] <ompaul> :)
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> um... 'they'? :|
[02:44] <ompaul> support persons
[02:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, hehe
[02:44] <ompaul> I think it is an honest mistake tbh
[02:50] <ompaul> the ldap stuff looks perfect
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi gnomefreak
[03:05] <gnomefreak> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[03:56] <ompaul> Seveas, Kamping_Kaiser okay problem resolved
[03:56] <ompaul> usename longer than 8characters
[03:56] <mc44> like dos filenames! :)
[03:56] <ompaul> so going forward company policy is that all persons shall have usernames shorter than 8 characters
[03:57] <mc44> ompaul: you should also probably have a policy to store years as more than two digits :p
[03:58] <ompaul> back in a bit
[04:23] <LjL> idiocy, pure idiocy... i'm starting to lose interest in trying to help people honestly
[04:23] <LjL> how on earth can you have a sources.list that includes 1) a PLF repo for *breezy* that times out 2) automatix 3) *edgy*-proposed
[04:23] <LjL> and possibly more
[04:24] <LjL> of course, APT segfaults... what the heck should i say besides "reinstall", after having spent half an hour trying to understand the problem
[04:26] <mc44> never underestimate the ingenuity of idiots
[04:26] <LjL> of course, he doesn't *know* he has added any of those
[04:27] <LjL> why on earth is edgy-proposed listed in gnome's "software sources" anyway? as "proposed updates", it seems
[04:27] <LjL> that's pure craziness unless i'm totally missing something
[04:28] <mc44> its for testing proposed updates to stable releases
[04:29] <Mez> !stop
[04:29] <ubotu> NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[04:29] <Mez> I just did that in #python
[04:29] <Mez> I'm too reliant on the bot
[04:30] <LjL> what would it do in #python?
[04:31] <Mez> nothng
[04:31] <Mez> lol
[04:33] <gnomefreak> mc44: close but i believe proposed is to test for packages that will land in backports if pass tests
[04:33] <mc44> gnomefreak: nope
[04:33] <mc44> gnomefreak: its for stable release updates
[04:47] <LjL> hollywood177, actually i do see you spamming if i scroll back. please keep in mind that #ubuntu is strictly for Ubuntu support - advertizing channels, talking about generic IRC issues, or quarrelling with other people is not for that channel
[04:47] <hollywood177> i know
[04:47] <hollywood177> i understood that
[04:47] <hollywood177> :P
[04:48] <hollywood177> and i wasn't really advertising, my question came after it
[04:48] <hollywood177> i need someone to join it and help me set up my ChanServ Bot.
[04:48] <LjL> which is still far from an Ubuntu related question...
[04:48] <hollywood177> i dont know where to look
[04:48] <LjL> Littlegator wasn't precisely nice, granted, but still.
[04:48] <hollywood177> i was hoping someone here could help
[04:49] <LjL> try #freenode-social i guess
[04:50] <Mez> hollywood177, #tapthru
[05:20] <ikonia> LjL: are you free a moment please
[05:20] <LjL> err, i was going for a cigarette, but go on :P
[05:21] <LjL> littlegator?
[05:21] <ikonia> can you give littlegator a nudge - he's claiming no-ones explained about mounting a disk and just being a pain
[05:21] <ikonia> yeah
[05:21] <ikonia> its not bad, but a nudge wouldn't hurt
[05:24] <LjL> he does sound a bit like he's just trying to troll, though it's hard to tell
[05:46] <ikonia> agreed, I think he's just MEGA lazy
[06:30] <ikonia> LjL: the littlegator user is a %100 trolling, can you please step in
[06:31] <ikonia> 3 other users are now complaining
[06:58] <ikonia> guys 2 users in ubuntu quall and echosyp using bad language and refuse to stop
[07:02] <apokryphos> dealth with
[07:03] <ikonia> appriciated
[07:44] <nalioth> holycow has been sorted
[07:45] <nalioth> "exotic ban" indeed  :D
[07:46] <mc44> nalioth: "sorted"? :)
[07:46] <mc44> Im hoping you mean that in the mafia sense :)
[07:58] <ikonia> excuse me ops, again another user using offensive language in channel
[07:58] <ikonia> thug-n-me using "fuck" and the like
[07:59] <ikonia> hello ?? anyone home
[08:00] <ikonia> nalioth: mc44 you home/free ?
[08:01] <m1chael> i connected to freenode via 8001, can i please join #ubuntu now?
[08:17] <ompaul> okay
[08:17] <ompaul> ikonia, I'll have a look
[08:18] <ikonia> ompaul: been delt with
[08:18] <ikonia> nalioth: stepped in thankss
[08:18] <apokryphos> ikonia: please use the !ops call at such a time
[08:18] <ikonia> apokryphos: if it had been a "regular" use of the languag eI would have, I just think he needed a prod - which he got
[08:18] <ompaul> ikonia, just don't use it when you have a question use this channel at that point
[08:19] <ikonia> no no, thats fine
[08:19] <ompaul>  !language | user tends to get peoples attention - if they fail hit the alarm
[08:19] <ubotu> user tends to get peoples attention - if they fail hit the alarm: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:19] <apokryphos> ikonia: any regular user can prod them for their use of language. If they persist, the ops should know.
[08:19] <ikonia> he got a prodding, and he did stop
[08:20] <ikonia> I think people just show a little more respect when they know ops are around
[08:20] <ikonia> eg: just showing the face sometimes clicks people into line
[08:22] <ompaul> it is #ubuntu most know that someone is in the background and available
[08:34] <ubotu> In ubotu, hellcattrav said: wait, is this a person or a bot?
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