[12:01] <shatrat> I just use totem for music, mplayer for video.
[12:01] <ahave> can KDE GUI's/programs run under gnome? like yakake for example?
[12:01] <ompaul> andre, never - they are third party
[12:01] <LjL> andre, i don't really think so.
[12:01] <Morrowyn> i like the last.fm thingy when you click the artist in the now playing section
[12:01] <Morrowyn> ahave, yes
[12:01] <n4cht> i've been trollin' in #ubuntu all the live-long daaaayyyyyy.    ok, so maybe not.  but it was funny to me.
[12:01] <ahave> can totem, xmms, etc pick up network files?
[12:01] <Morrowyn> apt-get will install the kdelibs necessary for that
[12:01] <Gator> You know what would be funny? If someone helped me...
[12:01] <ahave> whatever i am using now doesnt seem to read my mp3's on my windows box
[12:01] <shatrat> ahave, you mean smb shares?  Sure, althuogh there is a bug in edgys gnome-vfs
[12:02] <Morrowyn> and vice versa, you can run gnome stuff in kde
[12:02] <andre> LjL:  so what should I do?  should I just plain format and reinstall everything?
[12:02] <Gator> I need help =.=
[12:02] <matthias> me too
[12:02] <matthias> we seem to be going unnoticed
[12:02] <Gator> yeah
[12:02] <earthen> ahave, yeah I think so but you may have to simlink the network path first but i'm not sure
[12:02] <matthias> sorry i dont know anything about your problem
[12:02] <mackinac> matthias, what was your question
[12:03] <CrakeHunter> gaim keeps crashing, it doesnt show any error message - is this issue known in 6.10 ?
[12:03] <matthias> ok
[12:03] <Gator> oh thanks =.=
[12:03] <ahave> earthen, what is simlink?
[12:03] <ahave> link?
[12:03] <cafuego_> symlink perhaps
[12:03] <ahave> i guess i could just google it, huh..
[12:03] <iratsu> is it possible for me to relay internet to another computer given an ethernet interface?
[12:03] <matthias> so im working on installing my wifi card.. all the tutralias are helpful until iget an error
[12:03] <matthias> i.e. line 144
[12:03] <master5o1> ?
[12:03] <cafuego_> ahave: a link to a file or directory, kinda like a shortcut, but not broken by design ;-)
[12:04] <ahave> cafuego, ah ok. thanks
[12:04] <Gator> so
[12:04] <Gator> I still need help
[12:04] <LjL> andre: oh, that's a fine idea... not. listen, just enable the !nvidia9 repository, upgrade, and see if you can boot
[12:04] <earthen> ahave, you link a folder to the network path where the files you want are
[12:04] <lordkeiden> anyone using lightscribe feature in ubuntu? what version (1.4.136 or 1.4.142) do you use?
[12:04] <OuZo> does anybody know a tool to convert avi files to vod (so i can burn to DVD) or convert avi to ogg? thanks
[12:04] <Morrowyn> matthias, can you repost that link again with the line 144?
[12:04] <ahave> ok, let me try now..
[12:04] <CrakeHunter> hmm, is there a simple command to check in console if my graphic card (+drivers) support xgl and aiglx?
[12:04] <matthias> it wasnt a link
[12:04] <barbarella> Gator:so
[12:04] <andre> LjL:  lol ok,  please stick around,  if I can't get help I'll have to do that :(
[12:04] <matthias> thats the error im having in terminal
[12:05] <cafuego_> OuZo: ffmpeg is your feiend.
[12:05] <andre> gimme a sec and I'll follow the instructions
[12:05] <Gator> Barbarella: /bin/sh: Can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:05] <__mikem> LjL, pm
[12:05] <Morrowyn> can you post the link then please, i think the ppl here aren't good at just line 144
[12:05] <shafire> why is the ubuntu-server installation that slow?!
[12:05] <barbarella> Gator:what did you do before you get this?
[12:05] <western> anybody here who can help me with a problem of SYNCE ?
[12:05] <OuZo> cafuego_, great ill look into it :)
[12:05] <Morrowyn> maybe 42 , but i don't think that suits your question
[12:05] <LjL> __mikem, i can only type one thing at a time
[12:05] <cafuego_> OuZo: I *think* ffmpeg -i foo.avi -target pal-dvd or somesuch
[12:05] <michi_> hi, I have one question: how can i get the "module-assistant"? I am following a ubuntu-install-guide for ati-graphiccards
[12:05] <cafuego_> OuZo: if you sue -target, it'll automatically pick size and bitrate.
[12:05] <Gator> barbarella: I'm sorry, do you mean what did I do before I started getting it or what do I do immediately before I get the error?
[12:06] <andre> !nvidia9
[12:06] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[12:06] <GeekChick|U> Is there anyway to make bluetooth less flaky in Ubuntu? A GUI to manage bluetooth devices like wireless mice, etc...?
[12:06] <blackest> anyone know how to copy only good files from a cd
[12:06] <OuZo> cafuego_, :) great, im gonna try now
[12:06] <ahave> ubuntu kicks up a 'unsupported option' when i try to make a simlink
[12:06] <Morrowyn> CrakeHunter, i think you need an opengl 3d hardware accelerator card
[12:06] <Morrowyn> and drivers
[12:06] <cafuego_> ahave: ln -s file link
[12:06] <Morrowyn> for xgl/aixgl/beryl stuff
[12:06] <CrakeHunter> morrowyn , i do have a nvidia 7600gs!
[12:06] <barbarella> Gator:before the tty error
[12:07] <Morrowyn> the faster the card the better
[12:07] <cafuego_> ahave: It won't work on a fat* partition.
[12:07] <ardchoille> blackest: Define "good"
[12:07] <ahave> cafuego_, i was using the gui?
[12:07] <Morrowyn> CrakeHunter, shoudl work peachy, i had it running on a 6600gt
[12:07] <ahave> cafuego_: it should be a NTFS?
[12:07] <blackest> ok some files on the cd aRE UNREADABLE  others are ok
[12:07] <ahave> cafuego_: windows2000 box
[12:07] <CoRnJuLiOx> how do you compile stuff? ./configure then make and then make install, right?
[12:07] <CrakeHunter> i just want to check if xgl and aiglx is working , for my previous ati card there was a command:   fglrxinfo
[12:07] <western> anybody knows SYNCE-TRAYICON?
[12:07] <ardchoille> blackest: Oh, hmm.. no idea, sorry
[12:07] <Gator> barbarella: I just boot and it happens during boot
[12:07] <Morrowyn> didnt like the woobly thing and the moving, when windows became blurry, maybe they fixed that already
[12:07] <blackest> when it finds an unreadable file it trys and trys and trys and trys...
[12:07] <cafuego_> ahave: ntfs also deosn't support symlinks.
[12:08] <ahave> cafuego_, well shit..
[12:08] <PwcrLinux> Im back
[12:08] <codi> well thats why no one uses the ubuntu nvidia drivers. cause they suck
[12:08] <PwcrLinux> anything about FF and FP 9?
[12:08] <cafuego_> ahave: MS's fault.
[12:08] <barbarella> CoRnJuLiOx:depends from the install howto file.
[12:08] <ahave> cafuego_: what does it support that windows also support?
[12:08] <RasQulec> I run the beta nvidia drivers
[12:08] <mc44> !ohmy | ahave
[12:08] <ubotu> ahave: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:08] <andre> LjL:  I'm a little confused
[12:08] <matheo_> Ubuntu n00b here. I installed Ubuntu on my second partition (and created a third for swap). Now I can boot into Windows but it won't go all the way: blue screen of death
[12:08] <cafuego_> ahave: What are you trying to do?
[12:08] <andre> LjL: !nvidia9 brings be to a website
[12:08] <Gator> barbarella: It happens during the "mounting root drive" process
[12:09] <andre> I type that command and I'm not sure exactly what happened...
[12:09] <cafuego_> ahave: (This is aside from the fact you can't write to NTFS to begin with)
[12:09] <CrakeHunter> should i install the official nvidia drivers rather than the "nvidia-glx" from the repositories?
[12:09] <ahave> cafuego_, trying to play mp3's off a networked HD. on a win2k box
[12:09] <timothy> matheo_,  two drives?
[12:09] <andre> LjL: I'm obviously not an expert...
[12:09] <matthias> marrow: im trying to get my wifi working
[12:09] <matheo_> no all on the same drive.
[12:09] <cafuego_> ahave: Um
[12:09] <timothy> ma
[12:09] <ahave> cafuego_: i can live with not being able to write i suppose
[12:10] <cafuego_> ahave: You' reon w2k and are trying to play MP3s from a Linux machine? or the other way around?
[12:10] <Gator> I like how people just stop talking to me
[12:10] <timothy> matheo_,  did you resize with the installer?  can you see the contence of the windows drive?
[12:10] <ahave> cafuego_: otherway around
[12:10] <RasQulec> ahave: the NTFS drivers can write now though I dont know that I would trust it
[12:10] <barbarella> Gator:can you post your fstab file?
[12:10] <Gator> well I'm extremely nooby and have no idea what that is...
[12:10] <cafuego_> ahave: So you've mounted the drive via samba yah?
[12:10] <nyarla> q
[12:10] <ahave> just reading would be nice for now
[12:10] <pollywog_> is Edgy stable enough for normal use?
[12:10] <timothy> Gator, cat /etc/fstab
[12:11] <kritzstapf> pollywog_, of course it is
[12:11] <ahave> cafuego, negative. just saw it on my network servers
[12:11] <hou5ton> Can someone help me figure out why Ubuntu quit being able to access a network harddrive? I've checked with other systems and OS's ... it's there and working fine, for others.
[12:11] <GedoonS> ello
[12:11] <CoRnJuLiOx> what do i need to compile stuff? its saying that it can't find an acceptable C compiler in $PATH
[12:11] <Gator> cat?
[12:11] <matheo_> timothy: I manually created the partitions in the installer, running the live CD
[12:11] <erUSUL> CoRnJuLiOx: install build-essential
[12:11] <timothy> CoRnJuLiOx, sudo apt-get build-essencial
[12:11] <pollywog_> the reason I ask is that I have installed it twice and somewhere something goes wrong and it will no longer boot
[12:11] <andre> !nvidia9
[12:11] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[12:12] <pollywog_> I am not sure but I think VMware is the culprit
[12:12] <Gator> barbarella: no such file or directory
[12:12] <timothy> matheo_, you put the partitions after the windows one, right?
[12:12] <pollywog_> I think VMware destroys the initrd image
[12:12] <n4cht> andre, what is it you're trying to do?  to me it sounds like you're trying to come up with some difficult solution to a very simple problem.
[12:12] <pwnguin> anyone using edgy and samba?
[12:12] <timothy> Gator, at the command line
[12:12] <cafuego_> ahave: Ok, when that's what you want to do. install samba, and add the mp3 share to /etc/fstab, so it mounts when you boot. *then* it will just be a read-write network share.
[12:12] <matthias> wifi help needed
[12:12] <timothy> Gator, cat prints the contence of the file
[12:12] <matheo_> yes. Windows is on partition1, Ubuntu on partition2, and Swap is on partition3
[12:12] <ahave> cafuego_: oh, sweet.
[12:13] <n4cht> matthias, what seems to be the problem?
[12:13] <LjL> andre: it's not a command you should type, it's a repository you should add
[12:13] <LjL> !software > andre    (andre, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:13] <LjL> !repositories > andre    (andre, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:13] <kritzstapf> matheo_, whats the content of the bluescreen you mentioned?
[12:13] <Gator> barbarella: no such file or directory...
[12:13] <LjL> andre: now if you're going to do something as dangerous as installing drivers from third parties, please make yourself acquainted with the package management system, at least. if you think you're better off staying with Ubuntu drivers, reinstall.
[12:14] <xtrix> jrib: when i log out and log again nothing changes but i will do some search
[12:14] <matthias> well im working on installing the drivers for the net gear usb by following the tutorials online, but i get when i go to install the driver it says line 144
[12:14] <ahave> cafuego_: installing samba now... aptitude will be the best way, no?
[12:14] <mackinac> just "line 144" ?
[12:14] <rattlerviper> PeterPan penut butter
[12:14] <cafuego_> ahave: yup
[12:14] <ahave> cafuego_: sweet
[12:14] <jrib> xtrix: my next suggestions is to try to add teh "users" option in your fstab and see if that matters
[12:14] <pollywog_> anyone know what causes this job control error on boot?
[12:14] <PwcrLinux> jrib: anything about FF and FP 9?
[12:14] <Gator> I have it too, pollywog...
[12:14] <cafuego_> ahave: You want the 'smbfs' package too.
[12:14] <matthias> ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/wg111v2_1_3_0.zip
[12:14] <pollywog_> I see that others have the same problem but no fix
[12:15] <xtrix> jrib: okey, will try, thanks
[12:15] <andre> LjL:  I need 3rd party drivers.  therefore I need to be familiar with package management :)
[12:15] <ahave> cafuego_: one more question? (i am full of them today..) does linux not support the tilda character?
[12:15] <matthias> not that hole on
[12:15] <matthias> hold on
[12:15] <jrib> PwcrLinux: I would just blame the slowness on flash being crap...
[12:15] <ahave> cafuego_: i cant seem to type it with my keyboard
[12:15] <andre> LjL:  I'm gonna read this
[12:15] <Gator> so barbarella
[12:15] <barbarella> Gator:now you have your answer
[12:15] <ndee> hello there, I installed beagle to search all my documents, but when I add the deskbar-panel and search for something, it doesn't automagically search for my files, I then have to select "Search for files with beagle". Isn't it like this, that I can enter stuff and it searches for me on the fly?
[12:15] <matheo_> ummm...  It says something about autochk being missing in the nice windows boot font, then goes to the fatal error, something about memory 0x000003 (0x0000000 0x0000000) or something like that
[12:15] <zorba64> ~
[12:15] <cafuego_> ahave: it does, but it usually means 'home directory' if used in the shell.
[12:15] <n4cht> LjL, agreed.  I use a nvidia card, and the ubuntu drivers work perfectly.
[12:15] <Gator> yeah, it's trying to boot from the wrong drive?
[12:15] <LjL> andre: are you sure you really need them? is Beryl that much of a necessity?
[12:15] <n4cht> andre,  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29  follow that guide there and you'd be all set.
[12:15] <cafuego_> ahave: If you can't type it, your keyboard mapping is wrong. it works ~~ fie
[12:15] <matthias> coulnt copy home/..../<diver> line 144
[12:16] <ompaul> matheo_, that is a windows error, talk to them in ##windows
[12:16] <n4cht> and you don't need the beta drivers for beryl or compiz.  i use both of them commonly with the normal ubuntu nvidia drivers.
[12:16] <ahave> cafuego_: ok. i will look into that
[12:16] <Gator> barbarella:... so what's my answer?
[12:16] <matheo_> I only got it after installing Ubuntu, so I figured someone here might have seen it before. It might be a known issue with Ubuntu installs...
[12:17] <timothy> Gator, you need to make one?
[12:17] <PwcrLinux> jrib: yea, it's sucks on FP 9.. everything my system just totally bad CPU spikes up..  DVD players, and etc just slow and choppy,, my CDRW/DVD still have DMA show "ON".. do you think the 2nd updates of kernel gone bad?
[12:17] <ahave> cafuego_: also, i cant seem to get sound to produce with some apps? sound works on bootup and with some ubuntu effects, but for example with chatzilla it does not
[12:17] <barbarella> Gator:it can see nothing, cause there is no fstab file
[12:17] <michi_> hello, can anyone help me to build a module with module-assistant?
[12:17] <andre> LjL: it's not only for Beryl, it's mostly for dual monitors
[12:17] <matthias> macinac: couldnt copy "file name" line 144
[12:17] <CrakeHunter> guys, what do i have to install in order to get mp3 playing?
[12:17] <cafuego_> Gator: where is duran duran?
[12:17] <Gator> so why would there be no fstab file?
[12:17] <jrib> PwcrLinux: well if it it wasn't like that before you updated your kernel, that could be worth looking into
[12:18] <mc44> !mp3 | CrakeHunter
[12:18] <shatrat> !mp3 > crakehunter
[12:18] <ubotu> CrakeHunter: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <Gator> =.= duran duran?
[12:18] <CrakeHunter> k thanks
[12:18] <han_> hi hi
[12:18] <barbarella> Gator:you told me so
[12:18] <Gator> I told you there's no fstab, but why would there be no fstab?
[12:18] <PwcrLinux> jrib: breezy last kernel version: 2.6.12-10-386
[12:19] <han_> Just installed ubuntu with beryl enabled on my Asus
[12:19] <han_> works great
[12:19] <matthias> ???????
[12:19] <barbarella> Gator:cause you told me so
[12:19] <Gator> Could it just be gone, or could ubuntu be trying to boot from the wrong drive...
[12:19] <jrib> PwcrLinux: but was your system much more responsive before you changed your kernel?
[12:19] <n4cht> han_ dunnit?   compiz works well too.
[12:19] <Gator> So there IS no fstab because I said there was no fstab?
[12:19] <PwcrLinux> Jrib: yes, everything smoothly before it's upgrade of kernel
[12:19] <jlulian38> If I wanted to some code to run on start up for networking, where would I put it (I'm assuming something in /etc/init.d/?)
[12:19] <jrib> PwcrLinux: why not just use the older kernel then?
[12:20] <ndee> is there a beagle-searchbar instead of the deskbar applet?
[12:20] <lordkeiden> anyone using lightscribe feature in ubuntu? what version (1.4.136 or 1.4.142) do you use?
[12:20] <jrib> ndee: Places > Search
[12:20] <PwcrLinux> jrib: I better wait till they fixed the kernel version
[12:20] <timothy> barbarella, don't be mean
[12:20] <LjL> andre: but doesn't the nvidia-glx that's supplied in the repos support that?
[12:20] <LjL> !xinerama | andre
[12:20] <ubotu> andre: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:20] <barbarella> Gator:or there is no fstab but you can't find it.
[12:20] <matheo_> well, thanks!
[12:21] <ndee> jrib: but I would like to integrate it like spotlight for macosx
[12:21] <Morrowyn> i'd go for the twinview on nvidia and the ati equivalent, since xinerama (well don;t know how it is today) doesn't support opengl on both screens
[12:21] <jlulian38> If I wanted to some code to run on start up for networking, where would I put it (I'm assuming something in /etc/init.d/?)
[12:21] <Morrowyn> only opengl on the main screen
[12:21] <PwcrLinux> jrib: or let my hard drive dies, then I will get new hard drive and put the breezy back in
[12:21] <andre> !DualHead
[12:21] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[12:21] <michi_> My problem is that: the module-assistatn build fglrx command try to build with gcc3.4 and I think I have only gcc4.0 here on ubuntu-edgy
[12:22] <michi_> can i configure something?
[12:22] <andre> LjL:  I'm installing the binaries via synaptic now
[12:22] <mc44> michi_: why are you compiling fglrx yourself?
[12:22] <andre> LjL:  gonna see what happens
[12:22] <matthias> bmn ,nm b,bhjytil.;.lldfhigoiasndkhadflk;hsdf jjg;lkfgklja = me smashing my head on the keyboard
[12:23] <michi_> because it doesnt install with the ati-script
[12:23] <michi_> and the ubuntu way doesnt work too
[12:23] <n4cht> matthias,  many apologies, i got caught up in a different discussion and missed your wifi questions.
[12:23] <n4cht> whatcha got goin' on?
[12:23] <CrakeHunter> i did install the "libxine-extracodecs" in order to get mp3 support but still musicbox tells me : "you do not have a decoder installed to handle this file"
[12:23] <mackinac> matthias, is the file in the location it's looking for?
[12:24] <timothy> Gator, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[12:24] <n4cht> CrakeHunter,  try mpg123 or mpg321 packages.
[12:24] <matthias> so using ndiswrapper im trying to install a driver
[12:24] <CrakeHunter> n4cht, should i remove the "libxine-extracodecs2?
[12:24] <Gator> timothy: Thanks, I'll try it
[12:24] <n4cht> matthias, sometimes that's not even necessary.   what kind of wireless adapter are you trying to use.
[12:24] <n4cht> CrakeHunter,  I wouldn't bother.
[12:24] <matthias> net gear
[12:25] <karim_> hu
[12:25] <karim_> when I recompile xine-ui there is no xine binary
[12:25] <ahave> cafuego_: so how do i go about mounting with samba?
[12:25] <zorba64> !codecs
[12:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:25] <ahave> cafuego_: all command line i assume?
[12:25] <mc44> michi_: how does it "not work" when you install it the ubuntu way?
[12:25] <timothy> Gator, that is a bit verbos for a newb,
[12:25] <zorba64> !botsnack
[12:25] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:25] <n4cht> matthias, hrm.   i guess the first thing to check is; do you -need- ndiswrapper?   it could be a prism2-based adapter, (though unlikely) and you may just be able to use the linux-wlan-ng package.
[12:26] <j1p> is anyone experienced with setting up S-Video out from a laptop to a TV on Ubuntu Edgy?
[12:26] <jrib> j1p: I setup an nvidia card the other day...
[12:26] <andre> LJL: *sigh* rebooting...
[12:26] <j1p> jrib, its a Intel i915GM
[12:26] <thekidrio> i was excited that my dlink airplus dwl-g650 worked right out of the box
[12:26] <jrib> j1p: ah, then no clue
[12:26] <mike1o> u know how in linux if u select something it's automatically copied onto the clipboard... well how do i get that (in python)?
[12:26] <j1p> k
[12:27] <matthias> n4cht: well ive just been following the tutorials online.. they are help full untill you come up to an error which i have, driver cant be installed cause of line 144 ?
[12:27] <michi_> mc44 I started and seemed to run and when I started X-Server, it says that it could not start and "do you want to look at log-output"
[12:27] <jrib> mike1o: you mean a python command that accesses what is in that clipboard?
[12:27] <mc44> michi_: what card do you have?
[12:27] <michi_> X1950 Pro
[12:27] <Jowi> mike1o, you should ask in #python
[12:27] <n4cht> matthias, that was the same problem i had.  (that's what dmesg returns, correct?)  turns out my card didn't need ndiswrapper, just prism2
[12:27] <mike1o> jrib: i they wont answer
[12:27] <Gator> Can someone actually TELL me how to fix this instead of linking me to a non-noob-friendly link?
[12:28] <karim_> when I try to build xine-ui from source package I have no /usr/bin/xine binary.
[12:28] <cafuego_> ahave: sudo smbmount //server/share -t cifs -o username=user,password=pass,uid=yourid,gid=yourgid /mnt/mountpoint
[12:28] <mc44> Gator: fix what?
[12:28] <michi_> mc44 on the ati linux faq stands nothing about that it wont run with the newest driver
[12:28] <matthias> hmm ill look into it.. im sure ill be back tho .. thanks
[12:28] <jrib> mike1o: I'm just trying to understand what you want
[12:28] <markedwards> does anyone know if the recent kernel update fixes the sky2 ethernet bugs finally?
[12:28] <ardchoille> karim_: Is there a reason you are compiling xine-ui instead of installing it from the repos?
[12:28] <mike1o> jrib: i just found out... it's called the selection buffer
[12:28] <mc44> michi_: works on my 1900 :)
[12:28] <mc44> michi_: so i guess it should work for you too
[12:29] <n4cht> matthias, if you give me the model number of your adapter, i can do a little bit of the footwork for you and find out if you can use prism2 as an alternative.
[12:29] <PwcrLinux> Firefox segmentation fault
[12:29] <mc44> michi_: but I doubt compiling the module is going to help you
[12:29] <jrib> mike1o: you can get access to it (using pygtk) with gtk.Clipboard(selection = 'PRIMARY') iirc
[12:29] <Gator> mc44: apparently I have no fstab file, and I need to create it
[12:29] <D7xk> I installed, and then removed kutunbu-desktop, but when I startup, I still get the kubuntu startup screen, how can I change it back to the regular ubuntu startup screen?
[12:29] <matthias> wg11v2
[12:29] <ahave> cafuego_: wow. hmm. i better google the use of samba a lil more..
[12:29] <mike1o> jrib: ok tnx
[12:29] <n4cht> standby.  :)
[12:29] <mc44> Gator: how do you know you have no fstab?
[12:29] <ardchoille> Gator: /etc/fstab
[12:30] <matthias> thanks
[12:30] <j1p> Anyone have experience with S-Video on intel i915?
[12:30] <PwcrLinux> where I can fault logs?
[12:30] <Gator> mc44: I got the job control error, so someone told me to cat /etc/fstab and it said no file/directory exists
[12:30] <mike1o> jrib: does that work only for gtk apps?
[12:30] <mc44> Gator: try "locate fstab"
[12:30] <michi_> mc44 how can I install it without building?
[12:30] <mike1o> jrib: or any x app..?
[12:31] <cafuego_> Gator: I expect you're booted into the initrd, not the actual system. / is not mounted, so no files exist.
[12:31] <Gator> not found
[12:31] <karim_> ardchoille: the repos package doesn't have vdrkeys enabled
[12:31] <gn0me> Hey there, when running dpkg, I get a "Bus error (core dumped)", and I read this can be due to faulty memory.. ran memtest and didn't find anything. This only started within the past two days, and I don't believe I installed a new version of dpkg. Anyone having similar issues?
[12:31] <ndee> how can I enable the live search in beagle?
[12:31] <mc44> michi_: try !envy to get the latest drivers
[12:31] <ardchoille> karim_: Ah, ok.
[12:31] <michi_> mc44 the "ubuntu-way" installation method uses the xorg-version not?
[12:31] <Gator> cafuego, not sure what that means, but I was able to boot into Ubuntu before using the same method
[12:31] <mc44> michi_: er it uses the fglrx driver if thats what you install
[12:31] <jrib> mike1o: well it would work wherever you import gtk :P  I've never had to use something more basic where I needed to grab the clipboard so I don't know of how else you could do it.  One way would be to just call the "xclip" program
[12:31] <karim_> ardchoille: maybe you could try ? just do apt-get builddep xine-ui and debuild
[12:31] <Gator> mc44: the locate said it wasn't found
[12:32] <shatrat> Does anyone know where I can find a changelog for what was introduced with 2.6.17-11?  No luck yet with google or searching the forums.
[12:32] <n4cht> matthias,  it looks like you could probably modprobe -r ndiswrapper and install the linux-wlan-ng package.
[12:32] <andre> LJL:  I'm on my other machine now... I'm going to format/reinstall everything...  I'm not happy about it, but I've been meaning to do so. that was my first install and know I'm more knowledgeable about how ubuntu works
[12:32] <kazuka> whats a good bitrate to rip audio cds?
[12:32] <mike1o> jrib: yeah im looking into it...
[12:33] <barbarella> Gator:hmm slocate is installed by default
[12:33] <D7xk> I installed, and then removed kutunbu-desktop, but when I startup, I still get the kubuntu startup screen, how can I change it back to the regular ubuntu startup screen?
[12:33] <Gator> no, locate worked, but it couldn't locate a fstab file
[12:33] <shatrat> kazuka, 128 if theyre burned from itunes or something, otherwise 192 is a little nicer.
[12:33] <mc44> Gator: "cd /etc" then "ls" are there files there?
[12:33] <Gator> wait, nevermind, locate is an unrecognized command
[12:34] <michi_> mc44 thx. I will try it. leaving to learn more about it now... bye and thx very much
[12:34] <xerophyte> could somebody tell me why my server load is high http://www.pastebin.ca/349661 ?
[12:34] <matthias> n4cht: thanks so how would i go about doing that
[12:34] <andre> LJL:  I think things will be smoother for me after.  It's just too bad, if Linux was better supportated by card companies I wouldn't be in this dang mess.  Also next time I'll think twice before updating the kernel.
[12:34] <cafuego_> barbarella: He's either booted into the initrd image or his / is horribly, horrible broken.
[12:34] <mc44> cafuego_: yep
[12:34] <andre> LJL:  thanks for your help :)  appreciate your patience
[12:34] <Gator> mc44: modprobe.d, evms.conf, udev
[12:34] <__mikem> andre, if vista is a flop that may well just happen
[12:34] <ardchoille> karim_: My xine works fine, I have no need to compile it.
[12:34] <barbarella> cafuego_: or trolling
[12:34] <andre> LJL: see you on the flip side.
[12:35] <andre> __mikem:  I've heard nothing but bad things about vista
[12:35] <n4cht> sudo apt-get insall linux-wlan-ng
[12:35] <mc44> Gator: only those?
[12:35] <Gator> yup
[12:35] <LjL> andre, updating the kernel is fine if you *only* have the official reps enabled
[12:35] <n4cht> do you use gnome, matthias?
[12:35] <Pancakes> When I attempted to boot ubuntu, it said error in boot CD.
[12:35] <cafuego_> barbarella: Possibly, but not that likely.
[12:35] <andre> __mikem: it won't flop
[12:35] <Gator> I'm not trolling =.=
[12:35] <Pancakes> (Well when I tried to intall it)
[12:35] <matthias> i dont know im a newbie
[12:35] <andre> LJL:  I know that now ;)
[12:35] <mc44> Gator: ok, how did you boot into ubuntu?
[12:35] <matthias> i dont knwo what gnome is
[12:35] <cafuego_> Gator: You're booted into your initrd image, not your Ubuntu install.
[12:35] <andre> I'll come have a chat after I've reinstalled
[12:35] <Akuma_> i just installed and i keep getting GRUB error 15, anyone knows a way out of this?
[12:35] <andre> ciao!
[12:35] <n4cht> matthias, ok, at the top of your screen, is there a bar that says "Applications Places System" ?
[12:36] <matthias> yeah
[12:36] <ardchoille> cafuego_: How exactly does one boot into the initrd?
[12:36] <n4cht> Fantastic.  You're using gnome.
[12:36] <matthias> cool
[12:36] <Gator> After turning on the computer and GRUB loaded, I chose the standard boot for Ubuntu and I get the error
[12:36] <matthias> good to know
[12:36] <n4cht> Next step:  system->administration->networking  see if your wireless adapater is already detected.
[12:36] <cafuego_> ardchoille: When somehting goes wrong during bootup it can sometimes open a shell (busybox) in the initrd image
[12:36] <ardchoille> cafuego_: That's the initial ram disk, insn't it?
[12:36] <nooberchoober> omg laik hey every1
[12:36] <cafuego_> yah
[12:36] <nooberchoober> ya
[12:36] <ardchoille> cafuego_: Ah, ok
[12:36] <nooberchoober> i am kool.
[12:36] <nooberchoober> I am kool.
[12:37] <Gator> k
[12:37] <factboy818181> i compiled the 2.6.20 kernel on edgy, and when i boot up in it, i can ping and use traceroute and the ethernet connection is detected and i can connect to the router, but i can't wget or use any browser... i'm using openDNS for DNS and i disabled ipv6...
[12:37] <nooberchoober> Gator
[12:37] <ody42> yahoo just got feisty install and runs great!
[12:37] <nooberchoober> Are you kool?
[12:37] <cafuego_> nooberchoober: Please stop spamming.
[12:37] <mc44> LjL: ^^
[12:37] <nooberchoober> o
[12:37] <nooberchoober> who r u
[12:37] <n4cht> nooberchoober, take it to the offtopic channel.
[12:37] <Pancakes> When I attempt to boot my ubuntu CD (Intalling it), I get an error in boot CD, what might be wrong?
[12:37] <n4cht> or not.
[12:37] <n4cht> lol.
[12:37] <Gator> mc44: so, are you stumped?
[12:37] <ody42> thats what im talking about
[12:37] <n4cht> LjL to the rescue!
[12:37] <mc44> Gator: as cafuego_ says, you are in busybox probably
[12:38] <cafuego_> Gator: I'd hit the reset button and see what happens.
[12:38] <Gator> mc44: well, I have no idea what that is... I am a complete newb
[12:38] <shatrat> Pancakes, try running the thing from boot that checks the cd contents.  It may be that the iso is corrupt, or it was a bad burn.
[12:38] <cafuego_> Gator: if it still won't boot, I'd boot the livecd and see if you cna access Ubuntu that way.
[12:38] <matthias> n3cht so it says its detected but not configured
[12:38] <pbureau> ody42, give it a few minutes it will crash.. feisty is far from stable... I tried it.. bleh
[12:38] <Gator> cafuego: The reset button as in on the GUI or the physical button on my computer?
[12:38] <factboy818181> i compiled the 2.6.20 kernel on edgy, and when i boot up in it, i can ping and use traceroute and the ethernet connection is detected and i can connect to the router, but i can't wget or use any browser... i'm using openDNS for DNS and i disabled ipv6... - bump
[12:38] <n4cht> matthias,  fantastic!
[12:39] <cafuego_> Gator: the physical one
[12:39] <CrakeHunter> its about time to get 3d desktop working, now i have to decide: nvidia drivers from the original nvidia-website or the ones from the repositories, which one should i use?
[12:39] <karim_> ardchoille: it's a request
[12:39] <shatrat> Pancakes, for future reference, I always download from bit torrent and burn at slowest possible speed and I dont get many coasters that way
[12:39] <CrakeHunter> i.e. with which do people have less problems ;)
[12:39] <pbureau> CrakeHunter, 6.06 or 6.10 ?
[12:39] <Nuute> So I reinstalled samba, reconfigured it, but I still cannot access the windows box.  Keeps saying could not display all the contents of "windows network : <windows box ip>.  Any suggestions?  Has anyone had this many problems?
[12:39] <CrakeHunter> 6.10
[12:40] <ardchoille> karim_: Well, obviously it will work because I have xine-ui installed.
[12:40] <CrakeHunter> geforce 7600gs
[12:40] <pbureau> !nvidia
[12:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <Gator> cafuego: I'm booting from a liveCD now, I'll see if it works
[12:40] <matthias> n4cht: ok so i put in my ssid and password
[12:40] <jahid> hi, when i was trying to install yahoo messenger its asking for libssl0.9.6. can anyone tel me how can i get that?
[12:40] <CrakeHunter> okay, so not the reposiories ones , thanks!
[12:40] <n4cht> matthias, click your wireless connection, then properties.  Check "Enable this connection", select your network from the Network Name drop-down, and under connection settings, choose Automatic Configuration (DHCP), click 'ok', and see if it works.  (If your network requires a password, be sure to enter it also.)
[12:40] <pbureau> jahid, synaptic open all repositories in settings and do a search for libssl
[12:40] <TrZ> hi. i'm trying to use Ubuntu but it won't start up! the screen just dies after the loading screen but I can hear some music. can somebody help me?
[12:41] <Pancakes> shatrat, so you suggest that I burn onto another CD, however this time I burn at a slower rate?
[12:41] <barbarella> Nuute:can you post your smb.conf?
[12:41] <Nuute> barbarella, sure.  sec.
[12:41] <jahid> pbureau, i searched for libssl, but it gets 0.9.7, but yahoo needs 0.9.7
[12:41] <pbureau> jahid, google it
[12:41] <n4cht> matthias, after you've done all that, and enabled the connection, open a terminal window and type 'ifconfig' and see what wlan0 returns.  hopefully, it will give an ip in your wireless network's ip range.  if so, try ping -c 3 google.com and see what happens.
[12:42] <pbureau> n4cht, not all wireless cards use wlan0 , atheros uses athx, broadcomm cards use ethx.
[12:42] <shatrat> Pancakes, well that will help if it was a bad burn.  If it was a bad ISO then you need to redownload.
[12:43] <mc44> jahid: where are you installing yahoo messenger from?
[12:43] <Gator> cafuego_: I'm not sure what happened, but when I tried booting from a liveCD I got a screen with just an underscore on it
[12:43] <Pancakes> I've already downloaded again, all I need to do, is to burn again (I only had 1 CD though). :(
[12:43] <pbureau> okay I am gone to eat
[12:43] <ompaul> Pancakes, did you check the md5sum of the image?
[12:43] <jahid> mc44, i downloaded form yahoo webside
[12:43] <Pancakes> ompaul, I didn't.
[12:43] <n4cht> pbureau, i was going to get to that if matthias said there's no wlan0 entry.  since it's a netgear adapter, it more than likely uses wlan0.  :)  thanks for pointing it out though, now i don't have to if there's no wlan0.
[12:43] <Pancakes> A freind told me I didn't need to. :/
[12:44] <Sivik> how do i turn off a firewall from cli
[12:44] <ompaul> Pancakes, may I suggest you do that before you start again - if it fails you need to download again, if it does not then it is reasonable to assume that the image is okay
[12:44] <eamusic> hi everybody
[12:44] <karim_> ardchoille: gni ?
[12:44] <pbureau> lol ah you plotted my demise in public n4cht ... I will be back and get you back...lol (gone to get pizza!)
[12:44] <Gator> cafuego_: Im not sure what happened, but when I tried booting from a liveCD I got a screen with just an underscore on it
[12:44] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[12:44] <ody42> pbureau:  what did you do to get to crash, i have been on it for two days and hasnt crashed
[12:44] <[Wiebel] > I have a laptop on which I want to use only an external monitor (LCD TV)
[12:44] <clacker> i've got a spare if you're anywhere near chicago :-P
[12:44] <n4cht> haha.  now i'm going to order a pizza.   you've gotten me back already by mentioning food to a fat guy.
[12:44] <[Wiebel] > now when I close the lcd lid
[12:45] <Pancakes> ompaul, thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to do that.
[12:45] <mc44> jahid: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81895&highlight=yahoo+messenger
[12:45] <[Wiebel] > no output goes to my lcd tv
[12:45] <[Wiebel] > with a ati r128
[12:45] <[Wiebel] > *a
[12:45] <[Wiebel] > n
[12:45] <eamusic> i have a problem with my ubuntu :(
[12:45] <ahave> wiebel, what are the output on your ati r128?
[12:45] <Gator> mc44: Should I just reinstall Ubuntu?
[12:45] <ardchoille> karim_: If I compile appA that needs depB and depC, then appA will compile as long as I have depB and depC. However, if I compile it and send it to you, but you don't have depB and depC, then appA will not work on your system.. dependencies 101.
[12:46] <Gator> mc44: I didn't have any personal files on it what-so-ever
[12:46] <eamusic> How can i uninstall the XGL?
[12:46] <mc44> Gator: did it work when you first intalled it?
[12:46] <ody42> pbureau: i have been on it for 2 days and it has'nt crashed what have you done to get to it to crash
[12:46] <Gator> mc44: yes, but about a month ago I started getting this error and I just got around to fixing it
[12:46] <matthias> n3cht?
[12:46] <karim_> ardchoille: if you use the same version it will work. anyway I wanted to know if it was my sysem wich was broken
[12:47] <karim_> I don't care much of the binary
[12:47] <mc44> Gator: might as well reinstall then
[12:47] <karim_> I nee to know why I have a partial binary package created from the sources
[12:47] <n4cht> matthias, ?
[12:47] <Gator> mc44: Can I do that with a live CD without booting from the liveCD?
[12:47] <ardchoille> karim_: You said it wouldn't compile because you didn't have all the deps. That is normal. Install the deps and try compiling again/
[12:47] <matthias> sorry it froze
[12:47] <jahid> mc44, i tried that page, but it asks for libssl0.9.6, but my pc is having 0.9.7. so yahoo messenger is not installing
[12:47] <mc44> Gator: nope
[12:47] <n4cht> did it end up enabling, matthias?
[12:47] <Gator> mc44: dang, I'll go try again
[12:48] <TrZ> could someone help me in private maybe? Im having trouble booting the liveCD, the screen turns itself off...
[12:48] <eamusic> i need helpv :'(
[12:48] <mc44> jahid: you can connect to yahoo through gaim you know
[12:48] <Gator> TrZ, do you get an underscore or does the monitor turn off?
[12:48] <matthias> well it saw the wifi card and after i but my ssid in and password the comp froze,
[12:48] <jahid> mc44, i know i can. but i do like to use yahoo rather using gaim. gaim seems diff to me
[12:49] <n4cht> hm.  that's weird, matthias.
[12:49] <TrZ> underscore flashes a bit then it goes to powersave mode, but I can hear a tune shortly afterwards
[12:49] <matthias> thats what i thought
[12:49] <Dante123> Hi all!  I would like to reinstall Ubuntu on a partition on my HD.....however........I want to make sure that I do not mess up the other OS on there.....(Windoze) as this computer belongs to the school where I teach......how do I go about reinstalling Ubuntu....and still leave the Grub setup as is......any suggestions or tips are appreciated....thanks.
[12:49] <Clubbed> How come my HD comes up as scsi-1ATA_WDC_WD2500JS-00MHB0_WD-WMANK17 when it's actually SATA, not scsi?
[12:49] <thekidrio> TrZ: disable the splash quiet boot, that will give you more info
[12:49] <kismet> Could anyone tell me how I can go about increasing my digital audio?
[12:49] <thekidrio> sounds lke something is not working with the xorg.conf
[12:50] <mc44> jahid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340324
[12:50] <n4cht> at least we've learned one thing so far; your wireless card is being detected.    now, as for the freezing issue, that -may- have been nothing major, and probably would've 'un-froze' after your connection was done authenticating.
[12:50] <mike1o> jrib: ok...
[12:50] <Dante123> I should add that Windoze is on a separate partition....but boots first on grub
[12:50] <TrZ> ty Gator, thekidrio Ill try that
[12:51] <matthias> in network setting it just says wireless connection
[12:51] <n4cht> but it says that it's configured?
[12:51] <matthias> its doesnt say the device
[12:51] <matthias> yeah
[12:51] <n4cht> it won't actually say the device name.
[12:51] <matthias> oh
[12:51] <thekidrio> until you go to configure it
[12:51] <matthias> should i do auto dhcp or static
[12:51] <n4cht> if the device weren't detected, it wouldn't show up at all.
[12:51] <thekidrio> mine is ath0
[12:52] <thekidrio> matthias that depends on your wireless router
[12:52] <thekidrio> most are dhcp by default
[12:52] <matthias> dlink
[12:52] <matthias> BRB
[12:52] <n4cht> dhcp is your best bet if dhcp is enabled on your router.   did your old OS just 'work' automatically when you enabled the connection?  Chances are DHCP will work just fine.
[12:53] <karim_> ardchoille: what the hell are you talking about ?
[12:53] <karim_> ardchoille: it compiles !!!
[12:53] <Gator> mc44: my liveCD seems to be stuck on "Uncompressing Linux... OK, boothing the Kernal."
[12:53] <karim_> but it doesn't seem to compile xine itself
[12:53] <Dante123> Hi all! I would like to reinstall Ubuntu on a partition on my HD.....however........I want to make sure that I do not mess up the other OS on the other partition which boots first from menu.1st.....(Windoze) as this computer belongs to the school where I teach......how do I go about reinstalling Ubuntu....and still leave the Grub setup as is......any suggestions or tips are appreciated....thanks.
[12:54] <mc44> Dante123: if you reinstall ubuntu onto the same partition as it is on now, then it wont affect windows
[12:54] <n4cht> Dante123, just re-install ubuntu as you normally would, selecting the partition it's already use as the one to install over.  Grub -should- still autodetect the windoze partition and make a boot entry for it.
[12:55] <kismet> My audio sounds like crap... does anyone know how I can go about increasing it?
[12:55] <matthias> n3cht: yeah its worked just fine with
[12:55] <matthias> thanks
[12:56] <Dante123> okay...thanks everyone
[12:56] <matthias> ive been working on this for over 48hrs
[12:56] <matthias> straight
[12:56] <n4cht> matthias,  so it's working?
[12:56] <matthias> i dont know hold on
[12:56] <n4cht> righto.
[12:56] <matthias> if i freeze again ill be back
[12:56] <n4cht> if you freeze again, give it a few minutes.
[12:57] <Gator> Anyone, when booting Ubuntu I get this message: BusyBox v1.01 (Debian 1:1.01-4ubuntu3) built-in shell (ash)
[12:58] <Konoko> hello
[12:58] <Gator> that error message comes before the /bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off
[12:58] <Konoko> how can i stop an application that i run with ./ command?
[12:58] <Konoko> chmod +x sc_serv
[12:58] <Konoko> ./sc_serv
[12:58] <Konoko> how can i stop that from running?
[12:58] <n4cht> Gator, as i've never had anything remarkable happen during an ubuntu boot or install, aside from it "just working", i'm afraid you've got me stumped.
[12:59] <n4cht> Konoko, killall -9 sc_serv
[12:59] <Gator> Well n4cht, it did "just work" for a couple months
[12:59] <Konoko> thanks ^^
[12:59] <gn0me> Hey there, when running dpkg, I get a "Bus error (core dumped)", and I read this can be due to faulty memory.. ran memtest and didn't find anything. This only started within the past two days, and I don't believe I installed a new version of dpkg. Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions, as I'm currently trying to get packages from source so I can try a newer version of dpkg.
[12:59] <bbr12> Gator: have you just installed ubuntu, or changed any hardware? Because i got that problem when a added a hard disk once, and fixed it with merging two in raid1.
[12:59] <n4cht> Konoko, no problem.
[01:00] <Gator> bbr12: the only hardware I've added was a graphics card...
[01:00] <Konoko> whats the meaning of -9 here?
[01:00] <Midazolam>  hello, i installed the "nvidia-glx" drivers and now i can only boot in text mode 2 errors: a) "failed to load nvidia-kernel" b) monitors found but none with usable configuration  (i edited the horizontal and vertical frequence but doesnt help)
[01:00] <n4cht> matthias, i take it the lock-up didn't subside?
[01:00] <matthias_> im here
[01:01] <pwnguin> Midazolam: what video card?
[01:01] <Midazolam> geforce 7600 gs
[01:01] <R3bOrN> i've got a question ... I cant install ubuntu because of a resolution problem. Is there a cmd to start the ubuntu CD with another resolution ?
[01:01] <Gator> R3b0rN, push F4 on the liveCD menu before you boot from it
[01:01] <pwnguin> Midazolam: try nvidia-xconfig
[01:01] <R3bOrN> dont help :/
[01:01] <holycow> i think ubuntu needs an upgrade testing team
[01:02] <jrib> R3bOrN: try the alternate cd
[01:02] <Gator> oh =\ ,dunno
[01:02] <bbr12> Gator: i don't think that should give you the busybox, just the terminal when the config is wrong afaik.
[01:02] <Konoko> n4cht: whats the meaning of -9 here?
[01:02] <holycow> upgrading from one release to another is horrendously difficult, i don't understand how one can screw up apt like this
[01:02] <Pancakes> md5 sums were different. So that means I should download again?
[01:02] <Midazolam> i did a "sudo nvidia-xconfig" didnt help
[01:02] <n4cht> Konoko,  that just means to kill it immediately, rather than sending a kill signal and waiting for it to finish on it's own before dying.  :)
[01:02] <Gator> bbr12: I figured, but is there any way to fix "the busybox"?
[01:02] <shatrat> Pancakes, yes, I recomend using bit torrent since it checksums automaticaly
[01:03] <Konoko> oh thanks ^^
[01:03] <jrib> holycow: what do you mean?  "difficult" for the user or for apt to calculate?
[01:03] <pwnguin> Midazolam: ok. it's probably not what you want, but try finding where it says "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace it with "nv"
[01:03] <chinesed> hi everyone! little quick question: i'd like to setup a raid 0 on my wordpress server. i have VIA raid tool. Can I create the raid 0 without deleting the master disk ? it's currently online...
[01:03] <n4cht> Konoko, chances are with a simple shoutcast server, -9 probably wasn't necessary.  lol.
[01:03] <Midazolam> pwnguin, what does that do and why wouldnt i want that?
[01:03] <pwnguin> Midazolam: that should probably get you X11 back up and going, but wont do 3d accelleration
[01:03] <Konoko> lol ^^ i dunno im just a newbie :D
[01:04] <pwnguin> Midazolam: it's likely what you were running before
[01:04] <trollboy> how do I get windows to connect to a nfs share?
[01:04] <bbr12> Gator: other than testing and trying in would not know, i got reactions like "if that happens it generally is very bad".
[01:04] <n4cht> so what's it lookin' like, matthias?  any luck with it yet?  (perhaps try switching from ascii to hex, or vice-versa)
[01:04] <trollboy> I used to do it with debian and smb no problems
[01:04] <Midazolam> ok ill look into that - you think its better for me to use the original nvidia drivers rather than the nvidia-glx from the repositories?
[01:05] <pwnguin> Midazolam: they're both nvidia drivers, but nv is open source and nvidia-glx is not
[01:05] <lineman61> are there any repos that are not in the muti vers that you would recommend adding?
[01:05] <holycow> jrib, super clean installs starts, dist upgrade between dapper and edgy are proving to be faaaar too bug prone.  the average users wouldn't know how to fix this.  its sad to see dpkg reduced to this.
[01:05] <jrib> holycow: you're not supposed to dist-upgrade
[01:05] <Gator> bbr12: I wouldn't mind reinstalling Ubuntu since there is nothing personal on its partition, but my liveCD gets "stuck" when booting the kernal
[01:05] <Pancakes> shatrat, okay.
[01:05] <holycow> jrib, are you fucking insance?
[01:05] <trollboy> anyone got a FAQ or HOWTO for Windows connecting to NFS?
[01:05] <holycow> thats the point of dpkg
[01:06] <jrib> !language | holycow
[01:06] <ubotu> holycow: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:06] <Schismal> join xbinx
[01:06] <Schismal> join xbin
[01:06] <midgetg0at> Hey7 guys, i have a 19" LCD that rotates 90deg....how do i tell Ubuntu or my video card or whatever to rotate the image?
[01:06] <Midazolam> well i just would like to use 3ddesktop with aiglx preferably - which ones should i take if the nvidia-glx from the rep's doesnt work?
[01:06] <jrib> holycow: update-manager  (is supposed to) manage the updates better
[01:06] <mc44> holycow: this discussion is offtopic
[01:06] <midgetg0at> i recall doing it once before, however, i dotn recall *how* i did it.
[01:06] <holycow> thats idiotic
[01:06] <jrib> that's true too
[01:06] <PwcrLinux> I need to find where the fault logs after the FF crashed?
[01:06] <mc44> holycow: please take it to -offtopic or elsewhere
[01:06] <bbr12> Gator: if it did work before adding the new video card, you at least know where to look, right/
[01:07] <holycow> mc44, shutup and go away i wasn't talking to you
[01:07] <pwnguin> Midazolam: with an nvidia card, your only bet for aiglx / beryl is nvidia-glx, but the first thing to do is make sure you have a fail safe :)
[01:07] <trollboy> anyone see my question re: nfs?
[01:07] <Gator> bbr12: I'm sorry... look for what? >_>
[01:07] <variant> holycow: no need for that kind of attitude
[01:07] <matthias_> n3cht
[01:07] <jrib> holycow: please be respectful.  mc44 is right, this isn't support so we should move to -offtopic
[01:07] <pollywog> is it possible to get paid support for Ubuntu?
[01:07] <bbr12> Gator: for where the problem got introduced
[01:07] <n4cht> matthias_ yah?
[01:07] <variant> pollywog: yes..
[01:07] <jrib> !support | pollywog
[01:07] <ubotu> pollywog: For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc
[01:07] <Midazolam> k, someone was talking about new glx drivers from another repository, does anyone have the server address for me?
[01:07] <pollywog> ty
[01:07] <PwcrLinux> !fault
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fault - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <newest> hey there, im trying to retrieve some music files fromt ntfs using Gparted, but it says its unable to read the contents of ntfs,  how do i go about retrieving the files from ntfs(windows xp)?
[01:08] <carlos_> hello from seville, Spain
[01:08] <holycow> a dist upgrade issue ABSOLUTELY is on topic
[01:08] <shatrat> !nvidia9 > midazolam
[01:08] <Gator> bbr12: I'm pretty sure ubuntu wasn't working before I installed the graphics card
[01:08] <pwnguin> holycow: ive been meaning to get a removable usb drive and partition it into 3, one for each release
[01:08] <holycow> dist upgrade is broken from a user level perspective
[01:08] <holycow> very sad
[01:08] <PwcrLinux> oh well darn it..I'll to find the other way to look the logs
[01:08] <variant> holycow: works for me
[01:08] <Midazolam> shatrat, nothing happened ;)
[01:08] <Midazolam> !nvidia > midazolam
[01:08] <trollboy> PwcrLinux, if you start firefox from shell instead of icon
[01:08] <shatrat> Midazolam, yes, I forget the syntax, just msg ubotu nvidia9
[01:08] <pwnguin> i dont know much about why dist-upgrades fail, but it would at least help me debug and demonstrate where the problems aren't user error
[01:08] <holycow> variant, 6 boxen, clean dapper install, dist-upgrade hasn't had a single clean upgrade path
[01:08] <trollboy> you will see things on screen there
[01:09] <trollboy> about what ff is thinking
[01:09] <LjL> holycow, you're mistaken. the fact that dist-upgrade does or does not work in Ubuntu is offtopic, if it's not an answer to a support question.
[01:09] <variant> holycow: you should apt-get upgrade first.. then dist-upgrade
[01:09] <holycow> many errors, quite a few requirements to get it to be clean
[01:09] <econobeing> do i have to re-do ndiswrapper for the kernel update?
[01:09] <variant> holycow: upgrade with dapper sources dist-upgrade with edgy sources
[01:09] <holycow> LjL, its completely on topic, it doesn't work, users should be aware of it
[01:09] <Midazolam> hmm i typed /msg ubotu nvidia
[01:09] <variant> holycow: also, you have to do it between releases.. cant jump
[01:09] <newest> hey there, im trying to retrieve some music files fromt ntfs using Gparted, but it says its unable to read the contents of ntfs,  how do i go about retrieving the files from ntfs(windows xp)?
[01:09] <Midazolam> nothing happens
[01:09] <holycow> variant, no sorry
[01:09] <PwcrLinux> trollboy: yes I saw "Segmentation fault" in the terminal box when I use extra command fixes of display depth..
[01:09] <mc44> holycow: we recommend people use update manager
[01:09] <variant> holycow: also, the update manager does a better job of upgrading
[01:09] <holycow> variant, i recommend you stop talking, you clearly have no understanding of dpkg
[01:09] <Midazolam> aa okay sry, i have what i need
[01:10] <shatrat> !nvidia9 | midazolam
[01:10] <econobeing> because it still works on the kernel i was using when i installed
[01:10] <ubotu> midazolam: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[01:10] <trollboy> OUCH
[01:10] <variant> holycow: wow. your really offensive
[01:10] <holycow> mc44, i really don't care what a USER recommends
[01:10] <jake> hello, does anybody know if  an apple mighty mouse will work on a pc with ubuntu?
[01:10] <niyi> this is getting old fast... how do you get xvid working on xine
[01:10] <bbr12> Gator: i see, then personally, i would try a live-cd of a distro which has a newer kernel version, just to try and test that out.
[01:10] <mc44> holycow: please stop insulting pople
[01:10] <Midazolam> thanks
[01:10] <trollboy> PwcrLinux, I'd talk to the firefox guys
[01:10] <shatrat> banstick?
[01:10] <holycow> dpkg is part there it has to work
[01:10] <zcat[1] > !ntfs | newest
[01:10] <ubotu> newest: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:10] <holycow> mc44, i told you to go away, if you are insulted well okay
[01:10] <trollboy> sounds like your FF or one of its dependancies is really borked
[01:10] <PwcrLinux> Trollboy: yea, cuz of after installed the flashplayer 9
[01:10] <pwnguin> dpkg doesn't calculate upgrade paths
[01:10] <pwnguin> apt does
[01:10] <pwnguin> and apt-get doesnt do a great job
[01:11] <holycow> either way, it doesn't work cleanly
[01:11] <trollboy> PwcrLinux, they may know of work arounds
[01:11] <n4cht> ok matthias, where do we stand at this point?  any luck with the connection or is it still locking up your system?
[01:11] <pollywog> holycow I see that paid support for the desktop is $250 per year, you might look into it
[01:11] <trollboy> sorry that's the best I can do
[01:11] <pwnguin> if you knew "anything about apt" you'd know there's aptitude which attempts to solve it
[01:11] <holycow> pollywog, i think you really don't have a clue, please exit stage right
[01:11] <trollboy> I came here looking for help m'self I fear
[01:11] <holycow> this isn't about me, i can fix it
[01:11] <PwcrLinux> trollboy: sound good, my ff version is 1.5.0.9 that lastest version of security updated
[01:11] <holycow> dist-upgrade doesn't work, it should get testing
[01:11] <ar2k7> hey! will compiz/beryl be default in the next ubuntu version?
[01:11] <holycow> i am doing some preliminary testing now to see why
[01:11] <trollboy> how do I get windows to connect to a nfs share?
[01:11] <pollywog> holycow: yeah you are right and I am thinking of buying paid support
[01:12] <thekidrio> no ar2k7
[01:12] <trollboy> I used to do it with debian and smb no problems
[01:12] <bcardarella> I was just looking at my syslog and I'm getting persistent messages: http://pastie.caboo.se/39446  Can anyone take a look and get me pointed in the right direction on this?
[01:12] <Gator> bbr12: I'm pretty sure ubuntu wasn't working before I installed the graphics card
[01:12] <matthias_> n3cht
[01:12] <holycow> pollywog, i think you need to stop talking to me honestly
[01:12] <ar2k7> thekidrio, ok
[01:12] <holycow> your not even reading what i wrote
[01:12] <Pancakes> shatrat, just downloaded bittorrent.
[01:12] <matthias_> yeah so thats 4th restart
[01:12] <holycow> this isn't a commercial support issue
[01:12] <thekidrio> they deferred it probably release after that
[01:12] <pollywog> k
[01:12] <trollboy> anyone got a FAQ or HOWTO for Windows connecting to NFS?
[01:12] <n4cht> matthias_, hang on a sec. :)
[01:12] <cypherdelic> Help: I installed the kernel 2.6.17-50, edited grub. it starts booting, but then loading of nvidia failed, what to do??
[01:12] <zcat[1] > trollboy: google windows+nfs perhaps?
[01:13] <trollboy> I have zcat[1]  thanks though
[01:13] <ootm> !ntfs | trollboy
[01:13] <ubotu> trollboy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:13] <bbr12> Gator: yeah, but like i said, i have been having problems too when i added a third hard drive in my system, while fedora booted that just fine.
[01:13] <thekidrio> cypherdelic: try booting the other kernel in grub
[01:13] <trollboy> cyber_brain_mfkg, re-install your nvidia drivers
[01:13] <zcat[1] > ootm: nfs not ntfs ?
[01:13] <Jowi> holycow, I have to agree with you. I would prefer to use dist-upgrade instead of update-manager. sometime you just don't have a gui at hand.
[01:13] <pwnguin> holycow: i dont think you're being very constructive here. telling people to shut up is rude, and telling them they dont know what they're talking about is arrogant. doing a qemu install of dapper and finding a broken upgrade to edgy and posting the results to the internet / mailing lists would be more constructive to all involved.
[01:13] <trollboy> ootm, I'm trying to go the other way
[01:13] <PwcrLinux> trollboy: do you think the FP 9 might poor written.. also I found the about:config string of  "network.IDN.blacklist_chars" looks like garbled on it
[01:13] <holycow> Jowi, yup, that is all that i'm pointing out right.  i will try and see what i can do to setup a testing team
[01:14] <holycow> we should modify the release schedule to include upgrading between releases post freeze
[01:14] <mc44> holycow: they know it doesnt work, hence the update manager route
[01:14] <cypherdelic> thedavid, thats not what i want, i want to get that kernel working, any ideas?
[01:14] <braddcadd2000> anyone want to help me config a scanner with sane?
[01:14] <holycow> its absolutely crucial, this isn't acceptable for any project of this caliber
[01:14] <Gator> bbr12: I don't really care about fixing it other than reinstalling, but I can't boot from my liveCD because the liveCD freezes when it boots the kernal
[01:14] <pwnguin> holycow: i believe something to that effect was discussed after edgy.
[01:14] <cypherdelic> thekidrio, , thats not what i want, i want to get that kernel working, any ideas?
[01:14] <holycow> albeit typical of open source
[01:14] <n4cht> matthias_ first, what is "password type" set to?
[01:14] <zcat[1] > trollboy: you trying to read over the network or read a linux partition from the same machine running windows? google windows+ext3
[01:14] <cypherdelic> Help: I installed the kernel 2.6.17-50, edited grub. it starts booting, but then loading of nvidia failed, what to do??
[01:15] <rew_> hrm
[01:15] <ootm> trollboy: http://www.fs-driver.org/   - this works for ext3 as well as ext2
[01:15] <thekidrio> cypherdelic:  i keep hearing the nvidia driver is borked with the new kernel
[01:15] <thekidrio> thats why i mentioned booting the other kernel
[01:15] <zcat[1] > If you're reading over the network just use samba on the linux box..
[01:15] <pwnguin> holycow: if you really want to see results, visit #ubuntu-bugs and find some interested people in starting an upgrade testing team
[01:15] <bbr12> Gator: two options: try the alternative cd/DVD, or try a distro with a newer kernel version.
[01:15] <rew_> #a
[01:15] <holycow> pwnguin, well typically this channel is full of very nice helpfull people.  the problem lies in helpfull thinking they have a clue and digging their heels in.  i'm not interested in learning them that they actually don't know, thus i tell them to go away. its reasonable and simple
[01:15] <matthias_> hex
[01:15] <holycow> i'm also not asking for help, you seem to think so
[01:15] <Gator> bbr12: What is the alternative cd/DVD?
[01:15] <holycow> i'm announcing that something is broken
[01:15] <cypherdelic> thekidrio, no workaround, yet?
[01:16] <LjL> holycow: THAT is the problem, you are NOT asking for help. this is a support channel
[01:16] <jwtodd> i just installed 6.10 alternate on a new system w/ an evga en8800gtx nv gpu
[01:16] <holycow> and hopefully someone running dapper WONT try to dist upgrade to edgy
[01:16] <LjL> so this discussion should STOP NOW
[01:16] <holycow> thus its a service announcement
[01:16] <LjL> or move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:16] <LjL> thanks
[01:16] <jwtodd> worked fine after downloading the driver from nvidia.com
[01:16] <holycow> LjL, oh i'm here to help
[01:16] <bbr12> Gator: that the cd which is not the live-cd but the text-installation (the DVD-version can do both live and text install)
[01:16] <thekidrio> cypherdelic: not that i know of :(
[01:16] <MarcoPau> in kaffein I only get Netscape plugin viewer as an entry for Settings -> Player engine
[01:16] <MarcoPau> even thou mplayer, kmplayer, xine and stuff are installed. what am I supposed to do in order to pick either mplayer or xine as engines?
[01:16] <n4cht> matthias_, ok.  let's try ASCII then, and see if that helps?  before you do that, hang on a second.  i'm looking up your problem.  since i've never had it myself, i'm checking to see what worked for other people.
[01:16] <zcat[1] > holycow: If anyone asks, well tell them !upgrade. Nobody asked. Go away.
[01:17] <holycow> zcat[1] , yeah thats fine, very usefull information
[01:17] <holycow> we should have a wiki page dedicated to this infact
[01:17] <Gator> uhh, I think I'll just try a newer kernal
[01:17] <bbr12> Gator: but i dunno, if live already fails it's not a good sign i guess
[01:17] <matthias_> ok
[01:17] <Jowi> holycow, to be fair though, update-manager didn't handle my dapper-> edgy upgrade either. and that on a machine I managed to upgrade from hoary->breezy->dapper.
[01:17] <zcat[1] > holycow: !upgrade refers people to the wiki page..
[01:17] <Luke> i've got a few computers on the same network and I want their host names to be automatically propogated to every computer. I think I need Bind (dns). Does anyone have any good docs for this or any insight?
[01:17] <holycow> Jowi, absoulutely, it can't if diist-upgrade can't
[01:17] <holycow> right
[01:17] <zcat[1] > If the wiki page is incorrect, you should go fix it.
[01:17] <Gator> !!! the liveCD just booted
[01:17] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[01:17] <thekidrio> !upgrade | holycow
[01:17] <ubotu> holycow: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:17] <holycow> lol
[01:18] <bbr12> Gator: ghe he :)
[01:18] <thekidrio> heh
[01:18] <Jowi> lol
[01:18] <holycow> zcat[1] , thank you captain obvious
[01:18] <holycow> -_-
[01:18] <pwnguin> Jowi: at least on my computer, update-manager "couldnt calculate an upgrade path". apt-get tried anyways
[01:18] <pwnguin> and failed
[01:18] <braddcadd2000> Hello everyone.  My scanner is detected with "sane-find-scanner" but not with "scanimage -L" or "sudo xsane".  I have Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) and an HP Officejet 5610 (all-in-one) scanner.  The scanner is listed as supported and there are people who have it running on Linux.  Thanks for any help.
[01:18] <matthias_> WEP open
[01:18] <n4cht> ok matthias, what other connections do you have enabled at this point?
[01:18] <zcat[1] > holycow: so; did someone ask about upgrading?
[01:19] <mc44> zcat[1] : dont feed the trolls
[01:19] <holycow> zcat[1] , welcome to my ignore list
[01:19] <bcardarella> I have set a static IP address but I think dhclient is still running. I have no mention of DHCP in my /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:19] <bauer77> can you create a user account without applying a password to it??
[01:19] <variant> bauer77: yes
[01:19] <variant> bauer77: useradd <options> username
[01:19] <Zorix> any idea why it doesnt let me update the kernel, says it breaks something
[01:19] <bauer77> variant: What do I need to do, just do it from command line and not the GUI
[01:19] <variant> bauer77: just don't set a password afterwards
[01:20] <Zorix> but it doesnt say what
[01:20] <bcardarella> How do I shutdown dhclient and make sure it doesn't run? (I don't see any /etc/init.d/dhclinet exec)
[01:20] <newest> !fuse
[01:20] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:20] <n4cht> matthias, let's try switching the password type to ASCII first, and see if that locks you up.   if so, then try disabling all other connections before enabling wireless.
[01:20] <Jowi> pwnguin, mine update-manager could. but it still borked halfway through and no manual tinkering could save the upgrade. had to do fresh install. luckily I had anticipated it (always count on things going wrong) :)
[01:20] <variant> bauer77: well, for a a normal user who is able to use sudo you could use "sudo useradd -m -G users,admin,audio username
[01:20] <clacker> does the ext2/3 thing really make a big difference?
[01:20] <zcat[1] > I think you can always blank out the password field in /etc/shadow, if nothing easier works..
[01:21] <variant> clacker: yes, 3 has a journal and 2 does not
[01:21] <matthias_> n3cht: ok
[01:21] <bauer77> thanks
[01:21] <n4cht> -hopefully- i won't see you reboot again, matthias.
[01:21] <pwnguin> clacker: supposedly fscks go faster on ext3. but journalling is a nice property for when someone unplugs the wrong cable
[01:21] <variant> clacker: for certain devices it's pointless like usb disks etc (improve the reliability of the data if you dont use a journal on a usb disk too)
[01:21] <vox754> Zorix: there are problems with nVidia drivers and the new kernel. Don't upgrade if you have nVidia.
[01:22] <GeekChick|U> If I remove a package the requires KDE libraries, how do i remove all the dependencies it installed?
[01:22] <Zorix> no nvidia driver on this machine
[01:22] <zcat[1] > vox754: that might be why my system's been locking up regluarly the last day or two.. major issues!!
[01:22] <mc44> GeekChick|U: in edgy?
[01:23] <zcat[1] > I've just booted it from the earlier kernel and it seems ok so far.
[01:23] <GeekChick|U> mc44, in 6.10
[01:23] <mc44> GeekChick|U: apt-get autoremove
[01:23] <n4cht> i'm glad everyone is talking about this nvidia upgrade issue -now-.    i upgraded by haven't restarted yet.
[01:23] <vox754> zcat[1] : yep, that seems to be the solution right now.
[01:23] <GeekChick|U> mc44, say it was "kde-bluetooth" and it installed 10 dependencies. does "autoremove kde-bluetooth" remove all the dependent packages?
[01:24] <mc44> GeekChick|U: just remove kde-bluetooth first, then autoremove with no package name
[01:24] <Gator> When installing from the liveCD, if I choose a harddrive and it asks for the size of the partition, does that mean it will make a new partition on that drive?
[01:24] <zcat[1] > my reiserfs is messed up too.. df is hwowing it as a 4.8TB partition.. impressive for a 40G drive...
[01:24] <zcat[1] > *showing
[01:24] <vox754> n4cht: you mean, next time you reboot you'll use the previous kernel?
[01:24] <GeekChick|U> mc44, so autoremove knows to grab the KDE ones how? wouldnt it remove things like xchat?
[01:24] <mc44> GeekChick|U: it removes unused dependencies
[01:24] <holycow> Gator, it will give you an option to setup partitions your self
[01:24] <n4cht> i'm pretty sure i made an ubuntu forum post about the kernel vs. nvidia upgrade issues probably well over a year ago.  this problem isn't new.   a new kernel version usually brings this sort of thing about, because the compatible nvidia driver is always a few hours (sometimes days) behind the new kernel.
[01:25] <pwnguin> GeekChick|U: somehow it knows what you've asked to install and removes things that aren't required anymore
[01:25] <[Wiebel] > how can i redo the Xorg config that ubuntu does on install?
[01:25] <Gator> holycow: I know, but last time I did that I had to reformat my drive
[01:25] <variant> n4cht: you would be better to bring that up with nvidia
[01:25] <GeekChick|U> ummm. ok pwnguin  . . .
[01:25] <holycow> Gator, as an aside, it would be better not to use the live cd, its well known for crashing half way through and hosing your windows install if you have that on there.  its safer to use the alternate cd and use d-i (textmode installer) on it, far better tested
[01:25] <mc44> GeekChick|U: it knows
[01:25] <mc44> GeekChick|U: :)
[01:25] <goppp> !NexentaOS
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nexentaos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <goppp> any one here used NexentaOS
[01:26] <thekidrio> GeekChick|U: it builds a list in apt-cache of installed software
[01:26] <mc44> GeekChick|U: just try it and see, it asks for confirmation fisrst
[01:26] <GeekChick|U> what about "Mark for complete removal" in synaptic?
[01:26] <LjL> goppp, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is the *Ubuntu* support channel ;)
[01:26] <n4cht> april 5th, 2005.  lol.  that was the time i discovered the problem.  hah.
[01:26] <variant> holycow: is there a bug report that deals with this live cd crashing issue?
[01:26] <GeekChick|U> mc44, what about "Mark for complete removal" in synaptic?
[01:26] <thekidrio> you can also do apt-get --autoclean
[01:26] <thekidrio> GeekChick|U: that removes the install files
[01:26] <mc44> GeekChick|U: I dont think that does dependencies
[01:26] <holycow> variant, i haven't had time to spend on it.  frankly i don't actually care right now, i gotta figure out this dist-upgrade stuff
[01:26] <trollboy> How do I find the NFS Domain of my machine?
[01:27] <ody42> i have a quick question for the programmers of the group, i  am interested in programming , what language is the best to learn and the more useful ,ie python , perl or c++, bash
[01:27] <vox754> n4cht: you should mention that thread to everybody so they know what they are dealing with.
[01:27] <variant> holycow: you shouldn't give out miss-information especialy if your not prepared to back it up with evidence
[01:27] <Gator> holycow: Where would I get the alternative cd? When I got the liveCD, I don't recall seeing it
[01:27] <thekidrio> ody42: depends on what you want to do
[01:27] <n4cht> afk a minute.  wife sick.
[01:27] <jrib> ody42: depends on what you want to program
[01:27] <variant> Gator: i wouldn't worry about it. he is a troll
[01:27] <variant> Gator: the live cd is known to be very effective
[01:27] <Gator> variant: lolno
[01:27] <jrib> !alternate | Gator
[01:27] <ubotu> Gator: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:27] <ody42> the ins and out of lynix
[01:27] <holycow> Gator, in the same repos you get the live cd from actually, same name it just appends 'alternate' to the name in some fashion
[01:27] <matthias> n3cht: so if i leave it connected it freeze
[01:28] <holycow> variant, its not misinformation, goddamnit people
[01:28] <ody42> software for lynix
[01:28] <holycow> stop being so defensive
[01:28] <holycow> ubuntu rocks but there are things people need to know
[01:28] <shatrat> holycow, stop being so offensive.
[01:28] <jrib> Gator: well that wasn't very helpful...  It's on the download page, let me know if you can't find it and I'll take a look
[01:28] <ruzgar> how can disable "automatic text spelling"  in ubuntu
[01:28] <holycow> variant, i've helped several dozen people on here with the live cd just not working for some reason. its well known
[01:28] <variant> holycow: please show me the bug reports then.. if it's true i would really like to know about it
[01:28] <PwcrLinux> Hmmm I could use lynx. let me try
[01:28] <holycow> shatrat, i'm not interested in beating around the bush, if i offend  you, great
[01:28] <LjL> holycow, sorry, but given how you behaved earlier, you need to understand that people can be a bit harsh now. please drop it (and variant, please drop this, too)
[01:28] <PwcrLinux> nope, not on mines
[01:29] <matthias> n3cht: if i turn on my wifi it freezes if i leave it plugged in when i restart it freezes
[01:29] <holycow> variant, i'm not filing them i'm not looking them up.  we all know live cd has some issues.
[01:29] <ruzgar> ???
[01:29] <variant>   holycow anything you say
[01:29] <Gator> variant: holycow knows his stuff, so I'm going to listen to him...
[01:29] <variant> Gator: as you like
[01:29] <pwnguin> variant: what package would the live cd bugs be under anyways? debian installer?
[01:29] <nalioth> Gator: you and holycow can go to #ubuntu-classroom if you like
[01:29] <variant> pwnguin: what do you mean?
[01:29] <Jowi> GeekChick|U, I would recommend you to install packages with aptitude. it keeps track of dependiencies so if you first install kubuntu-desktop with aptitude and then uninstall with aptitude it will remove the dependencies as well (as long as they are not needed by any other package)
[01:30] <Jowi> GeekChick|U, afaik, apt-get and synaptic is not that smart.
[01:30] <pwnguin> variant: you're asking for launchpad bugs, im asking where to look for them, since neither of you were actually going to do it. but it doesnt much matter now, i suppose
[01:30] <mc44> Jowi: it is now
[01:30] <zcat[1] > Jowi: I think apt-get does that now; I keep having it tell me stuff was instaleld a a dependency and apt-get autoremove will remove it for me...
[01:30] <midgetg0at> has any one configured their system for dual displays and then noticed that games (via wine) default to a 640 resolution and dont let you change to a 24/32bit color??? if so....thats what i'm getting. i cant get counterstrike to see my available resolutions...ideas?
[01:30] <matthias> n3cht???
[01:30] <mc44> Jowi: at least autoremove will do that
[01:30] <PwcrLinux> Hmm I can start up FF for no IMGs.. let me look at the configs brb
[01:30] <Gator> #ubunto-classroom
[01:30] <Gator> lolol
[01:30] <variant> pwnguin: dunno, I rarely use launch pad
[01:30] <GeekChick|U> Jowi, whats the syntax for aptitude
[01:31] <Jowi> mc44, does apt-get handle it nicely?
[01:31] <MarcoPau> in kaffeine the subtitles in an avi movie won't be italics when there are <i> and </i> flags... I tried changing fonts but that didn't really help
[01:31] <vox754> ody42: I hate when people answer, "depends on what you want to do"; my quick answer is "python" and "C"
[01:31] <mc44> Jowi: well, you have to specifically use autoremove but apart from that. works fine
[01:31] <Jowi> GeekChick|U, "sudo aptitude install package" and "sudo aptitude remove package"
[01:31] <Jowi> GeekChick|U, alternative "sudo aptitude remove --purge package" to get rid of the config files.
[01:32] <Gator> Well anyone who thinks holycow is wrong, last time I tried installing from liveCD it crashed during boot
[01:32] <Gator> during install*
[01:32] <crazy_penguin> Good night all!
[01:32] <LjL> Gator, no, we think holycow was offtopic for way too long, that's all.
[01:33] <ody42> thats ok vox754 i appreciate all the info i am aware that there is a lot of research i have to do , computers and programming is not my work
[01:33] <GeekChick|U> Jowi, thanks. and thanks mc44. auto remove worked
[01:33] <Gator> well yeah, but he was helping my and everyone jumped on him because he said liveCD was unstable
[01:33] <LjL> Gator: this is a support channel, it's for support questions and, hopefully, answers. the rest goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:33] <LjL> Gator: no, everyone jumped on him for other reasons. anyway, drop this please
[01:33] <mc44> GeekChick|U: no problem :)
[01:34] <HAL9003> hi guys
[01:34] <pwnguin> anyone sharing files with samba on edgy?
[01:34] <Jowi> hi HAL9003
[01:34] <Gator> so how would I join ubuntu-offtopic without leaving this channel? >_>
[01:34] <variant> Gator: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:34] <revartj> hello
[01:34] <shatrat> Gator, depends on your client, probably just /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:34] <pwnguin> /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:34] <Jowi> Gator, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <n4cht> matthias, ok.. so.. we're getting closer.
[01:35] <ody42> i have been a paramedic for 18 years and a winblows user for the same linux is new and fun
[01:35] <Gator> I figured, but I always look like a fool lol
[01:35] <revartj> what is mode stamina??
[01:35] <variant> revartj: never heard of it, can you be more specific?
[01:35] <matthias> n4cht all i know it that when i activate it it freezes when i reboot with it connected it freezes
[01:35] <vox754> Gator: ha ha, keep up...
[01:36] <ody42> to use the terminal the main language is bash right
[01:36] <variant> ody42: actualy ubuntu uses dash
[01:36] <matthias> and in terminal it says invalid driver, but it wont let me uninstall it
[01:36] <HAL9003> what could i do so ubuntu is booted into the console instead of the GUI?
[01:36] <ody42> dash?
[01:36] <Gator> so what is the preferred install method, and what do you recommend to backup my harddrive before I partition it?
[01:36] <pwnguin> variant: it uses bash for users
[01:36] <variant> !dash | ody42
[01:36] <ubotu> ody42: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[01:36] <shafire> !wireless
[01:36] <revartj> i am saw laptop vaio with mode stamina anda mode grahic
[01:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:37] <variant> pwnguin: areyou sure? if you do readlink /bin/sh what does it say?
[01:37] <zcat[1] > HAL9003: in grub switch to the recovery option
[01:37] <Jowi> ody42, dash is only replaced for sh. normal users have bash
[01:37] <ody42> ok thanks
[01:37] <variant> revartj: ah, probably some power saving mode
[01:37] <pwnguin> variant: who cares? you should be using !/bin/bash when you want bash, and it's still the user's console
[01:37] <Jowi> ody42, make a habit of starting your scripts with #!/bin/bash though
[01:37] <ody42> ok more reading to do
[01:37] <vox754> ody42: yes, you can read some stuff with "man sh"; a lot more info is displayed "man bash".
[01:37] <revartj> variant ok
[01:38] <PwcrLinux> nope still segmentation fault after disabled imagines..
[01:38] <variant> pwnguin: the users login shell runs bash or dash?
[01:38] <HAL9003> zcat[1] , no. the recovery mode boots into single user mode, and i need the networking
[01:38] <variant> !dash
[01:38] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[01:38] <mc44> variant: it runs bash
[01:38] <pwnguin> variant: it says bash when i say ps
[01:38] <ody42> ok thanks  , is ubuntu the only one using hash Debian?
[01:38] <variant> I wonder why the switch to dash took place anyway
[01:38] <vox754> Gator: LiveCD unless you have to do some specific stuff, or have obscure hardware.
[01:38] <variant> pwnguin: cool
[01:38] <mc44> variant: speed
[01:39] <n4cht> matthias, what that means is that once we get past the freezing problem, not only will it work, but it will work at boot.  this is, strangely enough, a good sign.
[01:39] <zcat[1] > HAL9003: ctrl-alt-F1 will get you a console; "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop" will kill the GUI temporarily..
[01:39] <Gator> vox: What should I use to back up my HDD? Last time I installed it it corrupted the entire thing
[01:39] <HAL9003> zcat[1] , thats not the solution to the question i asked
[01:39] <Pancakes> I don't understand how to use bittorrent for downloading ubuntu? Do I just 'add' this?: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[01:39] <ody42> i printed 30 pages of howto bash for beginners ooops
[01:39] <Gator> nice
[01:40] <zcat[1] > HAL9003: start as single user, change /etc/rc2.d/S??gdm to K??gdm, then reboot.
[01:40] <ody42> i am on feisty right now no problems
[01:40] <pwnguin> variant: dash was mainly for startup scripts and very small service scripts. ive only got 1 instance runnign rigth now and its for esd =/
[01:40] <matthias> n4cht well good
[01:40] <vox754> ody42: what Feisty?! You are on your own there.
[01:40] <linxeh> does anyone know of any decent schematic capture / pcb layout tools ? something comparable to cadstar or orcad say ?
[01:40] <Gator> vox: What should I use to back up my HDD? Last time I installed it it corrupted the entire thing
[01:41] <variant> pwnguin: yes, was just looking into it on google.. i can see why it would be a benefit for ubuntu
[01:41] <mc44> Pancakes: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[01:41] <pwnguin> linxeh: i've seem something similar
[01:41] <ody42> i know its an easy fixe if it goes to hell , i just format, simple
[01:41] <vox754> Gator: I don't know. I just boot a Live CD, and copy all info to another partition or drive. I have never done big backups.
[01:41] <pwnguin> linxeh: but the name escapes me at the moment
[01:41] <nfp|kelnoky> is there a bug with kernel 2.6.17-11 and the x-server?
[01:41] <linxeh> k :)
[01:42] <mc44> Pancakes: but its probably quicker to just download the iso
[01:42] <vox754> nfp|kelnoky: yes, with NVidia.
[01:42] <linxeh> I can always run Orcad under wine if I need to, but it would be nice to ditch windows software completely
[01:42] <n4cht> matthias, i'm still hunting down the solution.  bear with me.  :)
[01:42] <zcat[1] > nfp|kelnoky: no, but there's a bug with it and the nvidia drivers apparently :)
[01:42] <Pancakes> The md5 sums have been different.
[01:42] <ootm> anyone know of a good VNC manager for managing VNC on 20+ machines?
[01:42] <matthias> no problem
[01:42] <ody42> most of you on edgy
[01:42] <nfp|kelnoky> ok, thanks
[01:42] <linxeh> pwnguin: was it orgeano ?
[01:43] <midgetg0at> k, so i need some xorg.conf help. A while back i configured edgy to work with dual monitors. which it's doing fine. however, when i go to launch a game, it doesnt read xorg.conf correctly or something, so i'm looking for help configuring my xorg.conf to be "game friendly"
[01:43] <nfp|kelnoky> any workaround yet or just stay with 17-10 for the moment?
[01:43] <Gator> What do you guys recommend to backup my HDD before I install Ubuntu?
[01:43] <pwnguin> linxeh: oregano isnt so good, and is more a pspice clone
[01:43] <linxeh> Gator: I guess it depends what you have on there already. Windows Backup? dd ?
[01:43] <NickyChic> hi. im attempting to join the world of linux but im having trouble installing. i get to the point where it starts up the partition selection part but it doesnt go any further
[01:43] <pwnguin> linxeh: look into gnucap
[01:43] <linxeh> ok thanks
[01:43] <linxeh> :)
[01:44] <Pancakes> mc44, it isn't downloading for some reason with the torrent. :/
[01:44] <Gator> linxeh: It's a daughter drive
[01:44] <linxeh> ok so gnucap is a simulator ?
[01:44] <vox754> nfp|kelnoky: no. Use the previous kernel 17-10
[01:44] <nfp|kelnoky> ok
[01:44] <linxeh> gEDA maybe
[01:44] <Pancakes> Oh nevermind, it's just going 1KB. :$
[01:45] <shatrat> nfp|kelnoky, I'm having no troubles with 11 and the nvidia .run install method, but theres no pressing need to upgrade kernel if it doesnt work with the repository version
[01:45] <pwnguin> oh yea, gEDA
[01:45] <linxeh> aha :)
[01:45] <shatrat> Pancakes, torrents start out slow and speed up as you connect to more and more peers and upload some to them.
[01:45] <pwnguin> oregano sucks, unfortunately
[01:45] <pwnguin> geda was more a pcb layout thing
[01:45] <Trixsey> Which state is the next Ubuntu release in?
[01:45] <Trixsey> RC1?
[01:45] <shatrat> Pancakes, or you could have ports firewalled, in which case it wont speed up
[01:45] <mc44> Trixsey: no
[01:45] <shatrat> Trixsey, feisty? its in herd 3 now, just testing.
[01:46] <mc44> Trixsey: no where near that done
[01:46] <nfp|kelnoky> it's alpha 3
[01:46] <pwnguin> Trixsey: still about a month before it goes into freezing things
[01:46] <Trixsey> oh ok
[01:46] <Pancakes> shatrat, keeps going 0KB, and 1KB.
[01:46] <pwnguin> im running it right now
[01:46] <Gator> linxeh: It's a daughter drive, I have my music and games on it and it's about 50GB, what should I back it up with?
[01:46] <nfp|kelnoky> it'll be released in april
[01:46] <Pancakes> Mostly 0.
[01:46] <shatrat> pwnguin, actually I think they froze package versions a few days ago.
[01:46] <Trixsey> Will FF 3.0 and KDE4 be out in time? no?
[01:46] <linxeh> Gator: what OS are you running? what are you going to back it up to ?
[01:46] <pwnguin> hmm. i didnt see that on the release schedule when i looked last, but i dont subscribe to the MLs
[01:46] <nfp|kelnoky> FF3.0 probably not...
[01:47] <Pancakes> shatrat, what port would I have to unblock?
[01:47] <pwnguin> Trixsey: packages.ubuntu.com/firefox
[01:47] <mc44> pwnguin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[01:47] <shatrat> Pancakes, I forget.  There is tons of how-tos though on forwarding ports for bit torrent though, just search and find the port ranges
[01:47] <Gator> linxeh: I'm running Windows XP and I'm not sure what I'm going to back it up to
[01:47] <mc44> pwnguin: ah I so misread what you said
[01:47] <n4cht> ok matthias, we're going to try an experiment.   open a terminal window and type 'ifconfig', and tell me what interfaces show up?
[01:47] <pwnguin> thats ok, i was about to go look for it :)
[01:48] <Trixsey> What do I have to do to get something in repos?
[01:48] <Trixsey> like
[01:48] <Trixsey> when they release FF3
[01:48] <mc44> Trixsey: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[01:48] <Trixsey> will it be in repos right away?
[01:48] <trollboy> gar
[01:48] <Trixsey> or would it wait until next release of Ubuntu or something wicked like that?
[01:48] <trollboy> this is irking me
[01:48] <Trixsey> for l33t stability?
[01:48] <PwcrLinux> currently they're on FF 2.0
[01:48] <pwnguin> Trixsey: backports might choose to carry it
[01:49] <matthias> n3cht i dont know what the interfaces look like
[01:49] <matthias> eth0
[01:49] <matthias> and
[01:49] <matthias>  lo
[01:49] <Trixsey> Do you guys think that the linux community is growing at an exponential rate?
[01:49] <n4cht> it seems that the freezing problem is related directly to the gnome gui for networking, according to some forums i've read.
[01:49] <pwnguin> Trixsey: but if someone important wants 3.0 in feisty, it could happen
[01:49] <n4cht> ok.  good.
[01:49] <linxeh> Gator: well you need to figure that out I guess :) ntbackup might do it to multiple DVDs, not sure
[01:49] <linxeh> personally I'd just go out and buy a new hard drive
[01:49] <linxeh> nto like they cost much
[01:50] <Gator> hmm...
[01:50] <vox754> Trixsey: yes exponential. If you want the latest you go to the developers web page, usually in SourceForge.net.
[01:50] <PwcrLinux> local puter shop pretty cheap or go online at newegg site
[01:50] <n4cht> now, open the network tool again, and this time remove your password, .. but do not activate the connection yet.
[01:50] <I-m-new> How can i check
[01:50] <Gator> how much did that cost, trixsey? >_>
[01:50] <I-m-new> What version of Ubuntu I'm using, Dark Dapper or Edgy
[01:50] <pwnguin> heh, we bout like 40 GB of microSD last month
[01:51] <pwnguin> bought even
[01:51] <Trixsey> Gator, not that much.. let me calc :P
[01:51] <I-m-new> What is the command to check, what version I'm using, Dark Dapper or Egdy!
[01:51] <matthias> roger that
[01:51] <matthias> done
[01:51] <Trixsey> about 420 bucks
[01:51] <Boohbah> I-m-new: cat /etc/ubuntu-release
[01:51] <Gator> not bad
[01:51] <mc44> l-m-new: or System -> About ubuntu
[01:51] <spine5555> exit
[01:52] <linxeh> anyone have a feel for how much better SAS is than SATA ?
[01:52] <linxeh> for the same spindle speeds
[01:52] <vox754> I-m-new: Dark Dapper?
[01:52] <mc44> l-m-new: also there is no such thing as "Dark Dapper" it is Dapper Drake
[01:52] <Trixsey> SAS, isn't that raided SATA?
[01:52] <n4cht> matthias, even better; sudo apt-get install network-manager    we're going to try this with a different tool completely.  from what i hear it does the same things but without the freezes.
[01:52] <pwnguin> SAS is scsi attached serial i think
[01:52] <I-m-new> I'm checking
[01:52] <zcat[1] > What comes after Feisty? Goofy Gopher?!!
[01:52] <renchic> does the ubuntu installation (im using 6.06) typically freeze up? i cant get to the partitioning stage.
[01:53] <thekidrio> i just played with some sata over infiniband stuff
[01:53] <Trixsey> zcat[1] , LOL!
[01:53] <thekidrio> so nice
[01:53] <Trixsey> why do they make so funny names? :P
[01:53] <thekidrio> almost like local access times on the networked drives
[01:53] <Boohbah> zcat[1] : gargantuan gastropod
[01:53] <I-m-new> damn i'm using old one
[01:53] <I-m-new> lol
[01:53] <I-m-new> 6.06 LTS
[01:53] <pwnguin> renchic: it sometimes takes a while for the partitioning tool to load
[01:53] <amonbish> hey
[01:53] <matthias> n3cht it couldnt find network package
[01:53] <Trixsey> I-m-new, dont bother updating now.. wait 2 months and update to the next distro :P
[01:53] <Tyler> How can I change user permissions so that I am almost as powerful as root, lets say?
[01:53] <amonbish> interest
[01:54] <I-m-new> Trixsey, so can i update it to 6.10?
[01:54] <pwnguin> Tyler: why?
[01:54] <hairulfr> Rabid Racoon
[01:54] <zcat[1] > Tyler: run windows :)
[01:54] <Boohbah> Tyler: that would defeat the point of separating privileges in the first place
[01:54] <Gator> Hey people, on my liveCD, the screen is black like it faded away for the screensaver, but it's not coming out of it >_>
[01:54] <Trixsey> I-m-new, you could do a dist upgrade.. but thats not recommended I think? clean install is better.. I always do clean install ;P
[01:54] <n4cht> ahhh.  ok.  that's no big deal.    mind if i msg you?  my next set of ideas are kind long.
[01:54] <Tyler> well i really need it, personal business
[01:54] <Trixsey> I-m-new, but if you plan on doing a clean install I'd wait until the next version of Ubuntu comes.. that would be in April
[01:54] <matthias> sure like on aim or yahoo?
[01:54] <Trixsey> otherwise you'd have to do a clean install in 2 months again! :P
[01:54] <Trixsey> lol
[01:54] <pwnguin> Tyler: you could use sudo su, but it slightly defeats the purpose
[01:55] <I-m-new> lol
[01:55] <Trixsey> given you want the latest software :P
[01:55] <renchic> pwnguin: how long should i wait before i give up? it has loaded past 100% (where it shows the progress bar) but once that closes all im left with is the mostly grey window and the "working" cursor
[01:55] <I-m-new> I dont Prefer clean instal..
[01:55] <Trixsey> ohh :(
[01:55] <I-m-new> I have windows installed.
[01:55] <Trixsey> most of the stuff I got on the comp is from repos anyway
[01:55] <I-m-new> Multi os, so how can i do the clean install..
[01:55] <hairulfr> I-m-new: So?
[01:55] <Trixsey> I-m-new, dual boot?
[01:55] <Tyler> pwnguin, i just need to already be as powerful as root, more so in the sense of having full read/write ability on everything
[01:55] <I-m-new> yuppers.
[01:55] <pwnguin> renchic: is the cd or hard drive still going loudly?
[01:55] <BrendanM> So what's with the kernel update? Is it worth getting?
[01:55] <I-m-new> Dual boot.
[01:55] <Trixsey> I-m-new, well.. you could do a clean install still
[01:55] <hairulfr> I-m-new: Ehm, as easy as if you didn't dual boot
[01:55] <I-m-new> Great.
[01:55] <zcat[1] > Tyler: no you DON'T
[01:55] <Trixsey> I-m-new, you aint running linux on the same partition as windows
[01:55] <I-m-new> lol.
[01:55] <pwnguin> Tyler: sounds like a grand way to screw up
[01:55] <n4cht> matthias, i meant with the /msg command.  if you're more comfortable using aim or yahoo, we can do that too.
[01:56] <I-m-new> Linux is installed on another Partition.
[01:56] <renchic> the CD has now slowed down, but not the hard drive
[01:56] <Tyler> zcat[1] ... my os, my business, im just here to get help, not argue
[01:56] <Trixsey> I-m-new, so you format your linux paritition and install it :P
[01:56] <Trixsey> yes
[01:56] <I-m-new> cool.
[01:56] <Trixsey> clean install = clean partition.. not clean drive :P
[01:56] <I-m-new> I will do the same.
[01:56] <hairulfr> I-m-new: :)
[01:56] <mc44> Tyler: why not just run as root then?
[01:56] <I-m-new> So now i must wait for the newer version
[01:56] <zcat[1] > Tyler: I'm helping you not screw up your computer..
[01:56] <Trixsey> I-m-new, you don't *have to*.. but I would if I were you
[01:56] <Trixsey> :P
[01:56] <shatrat> BrendanM, I havent found exactly what changes are in the new update, but it might break your video, wireless, anything else that is compiled against the kernel headers.
[01:56] <hairulfr> I-m-new: Why are you in a rush?
[01:56] <Tyler> mc44, already set up my account before =/ i don't really want to put another few hours into customizing the root account
[01:57] <I-m-new> lol, no more rush. just asking
[01:57] <pwnguin> dont customize the root account, you shouldnt even be logging in as root
[01:57] <hairulfr> I-m-new: :)
[01:57] <franktank> hey, i just installed ubuntu on another hd that had windows on it, and now when i boot it says "error loading operation system" and isnt booting into grub anymore...
[01:57] <franktank> what do i need to do
[01:57] <mc44> Tyler: you could sudo su
[01:57] <I-m-new> because yesterday i was bored enough. then i decided to kill the boringness from me.. i got the Ubuntu cds and plan to install on my pc.
[01:57] <zcat[1] > mc44: sudo -i
[01:57] <mc44> zcat[1] : thats the one :)
[01:57] <hairulfr> Tyler: I think that Ubuntu is by far the easiest distro to customize
[01:57] <mzuverink> Two questions, !-Should I run an ident server, and 2- anyone know where I can find kvtml(kde education packages for english to spanish?
[01:57] <pwnguin> Tyler: you really want to run firefox as root?
[01:58] <Tyler> mc44, that's just temporary, and i've already ran into other problems, such as not being able to mount external hard drivers, and i had to set permissions on fstab, i don't want that to happen again.. just want instant access
[01:58] <I-m-new> I have install it, but you are saying its old.
[01:58] <BigToe> How do I view the content of packets? Like tcpdump but showing what data is being transmitted
[01:58] <Boohbah> Tyler: do you not understand why running user processes as root is stupid?
[01:58] <Gator> Is root the account you create at install or is it an account actually called root?
[01:58] <Tyler> pwnguin, ID LOVE TO OK?
[01:58] <Trixsey> I-m-new, 6.06 is not that old.. a year tops :P
[01:58] <hairulfr> I-m-new: It's not old
[01:58] <pwnguin> Tyler: removable media SHOULD be mounting as users just fine
[01:58] <vox754> Boohbah: come on, don't call him like that. He is just asking.
[01:58] <ddnngg> yeah but 6.06 has LTS :P
[01:58] <ddnngg> :D
[01:58] <mc44> Tyler: just copy all your files in home into root and run as root if you want to
[01:59] <shatrat> Gator, on most Unix/Linux distros there is an actual account named root
[01:59] <Boohbah> vox754: i didn't call him stupid, i called the idea stupid
[01:59] <mc44> Tyler: then you dont have to set up again
[01:59] <franktank> anybody?
[01:59] <zcat[1] > Tyler: linux isn' windows. It sounds like you'd be happier just sticking with windows.
[01:59] <Trixsey> LTS = Lifetime support?
[01:59] <Trixsey> lol
[01:59] <shatrat> Gator, which is super user at all times, but in ubuntu you have to put in your password even if you are an administrator
[01:59] <I-m-new> not old, but the why ubuntu release the newer version of it.
[01:59] <vox754> Boohbah: you get the idea...
[01:59] <pwnguin> Trixsey: long term support
[01:59] <Tyler> mc44, i think i tried that before, something screwed up.. i don't exactly recall
[01:59] <Trixsey> oh ok :P
[01:59] <I-m-new> lol not LTS = dosen't mean life time support
[01:59] <hairulfr> I-m-new: That's the philosophy
[01:59] <pwnguin> Trixsey: 3 years on desktop, 5 on server, if i recall
[01:59] <I-m-new> it shows it is long term support.
[01:59] <shatrat> Tyler, if youre that determined to hose your computer you migth want to stick with windows, it makes it much easier to trash things
[01:59] <Trixsey> pwnguin, for free?
[01:59] <franktank> how do i reinstall GRUB from the live cd
[01:59] <ardchoille> shatrat: hahaha
[02:00] <BigToe> How do I view the content of packets? Like tcpdump but showing what data is being transmitted
[02:00] <pwnguin> Trixsey: well, you're standing in "support"
[02:00] <mc44> shatrat: please dont make comments like that its not constructive
[02:00] <shatrat> franktank, I think you should be able to run grub-install from terminal
[02:00] <PwcrLinux> Should I go upgrade to LTS? what the kernel lastest version on LTS?
[02:00] <zcat[1] > On this system, I plug in a removeable drive and it pops up. Any device, any user, no issues.
[02:00] <I-m-new> As long as for 3 years of support.
[02:00] <n4cht> matthias, did you get my /msg's ?
[02:00] <Trixsey> pwnguin, oh ok.. and if I had Edgy I wouldn't be allowed here? :( lol
[02:00] <Tyler> zcat[1]  thats great, but you know what? other people have different configurations
[02:00] <timothy> Trixsey, I'll support lts as long as it lives
[02:00] <noldon> !xlibs
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <ddnngg> yeah about GRUB im also on 6.06 is there any way to update GRUB to newer version ?? :)
[02:01] <pwnguin> im not sure what support even means for ubuntu
[02:01] <Tyler> now stop aruging and bashing me. find something better to do. if i want to run as root and let the whole world know it, i will. it's just software
[02:01] <zcat[1] > Tyler: so set up your configuration so that you have access to what you need as a regular user.
[02:01] <I-m-new> so what you are using right now
[02:01] <I-m-new> Edgy or Dapper.
[02:01] <hairulfr> franktank: There is a rescue thing on the livecd, I don't remember if it has a auto GRUB-installer, some distros have that
[02:01] <Trixsey> timothy, as long as the amount of distro users are more than a certain few? or what?
[02:01] <cypherdelic> thekidrio, maybe the kernelmodule nvidia is not availavle for 2.6.17-50, because there is no rstricted modules package
[02:01] <Trixsey> I-m-new, I'm using Edgy
[02:01] <Tyler> thats what im trying to... i asked how can i set myself up so i am almost as powerful as root when it comes to read/write
[02:01] <hairulfr> I-m-new: Edgy
[02:01] <pwnguin> Tyler: we dont loan the insane weapons
[02:01] <I-m-new> See every one using the new one :P
[02:01] <I-m-new> I'm still on Dapper
[02:01] <I-m-new> hehe!
[02:01] <Trixsey> hahahaaa
[02:01] <zcat[1] > Tyler: yeah, and in a month or less you'll be back here complaining that "linux is insecure" and telling everyone how it's no better than windows.
[02:02] <Trixsey> I-m-new, how old are ya? ;)
[02:02] <timothy> Trixsey, as long as it works,
[02:02] <I-m-new> just 20
[02:02] <Gator> Guys, when installing from the liveCD, should I manually edit the partition table or should I use the auto-partition thing?
[02:02] <I-m-new> Cool
[02:02] <I-m-new> anyway, I Will start updating my Dapper.
[02:02] <mc44> Tyler: ok, here you go, just change the group of your user to root
[02:02] <Trixsey> I-m-new, what you studying at uni?
[02:02] <hairulfr> Gator: Manually, if you know what you're doing and if you don't wanna loose data
[02:02] <Boohbah> Tyler: you said you want full permissions on another hard drive or something? just use chmod and chown
[02:02] <ddnngg> Gator do u have pre-made partitions ??
[02:02] <cypherdelic> Gator: FOllow your force of mind, it will guide you the way.
[02:02] <I-m-new> you dont know how difficult to install modem drivers in linux :D
[02:02] <BigToe> How do I view the content of packets? Like tcpdump but showing what data is being transmitted
[02:02] <franktank> hairulfr: where is the rescue thing?
[02:03] <BigToe> anyone?
[02:03] <Tyler> boohbah, i don't want to do that every freaking time. that's why im here.
[02:03] <Trixsey> I-m-new, I guess you could do a dirty dist upgrade now and then do a clean install when the next version comes :p
[02:03] <pwnguin> Tyler: honestly, if you need to run as root for a specific reason, i at least, consider it a bug
[02:03] <I-m-new> I'm Graduate..
[02:03] <Tyler> mc44, i did that already, it didn't change anything
[02:03] <noldon> i got a dependency when i try to install nero 4 linux it said it need xlibs where can i find it
[02:03] <Gator> hairulfr: I don't know what I'm doing
[02:03] <hairulfr> franktank: It pops up as a item in the menu along with the run livecd/install ubuntu
[02:03] <Gator> ddnnngg: I don't have premade partitions
[02:03] <Trixsey> I-m-new, graduate? no uni? -_-
[02:03] <PwcrLinux> bbl
[02:03] <vox754> Gator: manually edit, but you need to know what you are doing. Read about partitions first.
[02:03] <Boohbah> Tyler: you only do it once, then your files have those permissions
[02:03] <ddnngg> the manually set up tables
[02:03] <ddnngg> how much ram do u have ??
[02:03] <I-m-new> yeah no uni yet!
[02:03] <rogue780> does anyone know of a program that can ping an IP range and return any active ip addresses?
[02:03] <hairulfr> Gator: Is your disk partitioned and ready, and does it have "valuable" data?
[02:03] <Gator> I only have 256MB
[02:03] <I-m-new> not decided yet for taking admission in MBA
[02:03] <ddnngg> uu
[02:03] <cypherdelic> to damn i want that restriced modules and vmwareplayer for 2.6.17-50, any ideas, if it will come, and when??
[02:04] <vox754> BigToe: sorry. Can't help.
[02:04] <Boohbah> Tyler: chown -R tyler:users /mnt/somedrive
[02:04] <ddnngg> any one how much SWAP should he do with 256 ram ??
[02:04] <zcat[1] > rogue780: nmap -sP network/range
[02:04] <BigToe> thanks anyway, vox754 :(
[02:04] <larson9999> pwnguin: of course that's a bug
[02:04] <ddnngg> 512 or 756 ??
[02:04] <cypherdelic> ddnngg, yes twice the amout: 512
[02:04] <Gator> hairulfr: it's not partitioned and everything on it is replacable
[02:04] <CrakeHunter> what is the command for exiting sxerver and going into plain text mode?
[02:05] <vox754> ddnngg: it really doesn't matter. Anything like 1 GB to 4GB will do.
[02:05] <hairulfr> Gator: Well just tell it to use entire disk
[02:05] <pwnguin> CrakeHunter: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:05] <zcat[1] > ddnngg: I just go with 500M to 1.5G swap for everything..
[02:05] <BrendanM> Gator are you trying to run Linux alongside windows? dual boot?
[02:05] <eternaljoy> i have Vista installed on my notebook! But I need to partition my 100Gig HD so I can install Unbuntu!  Any solutions?
[02:05] <cypherdelic> ddnngg, it doesnt make sense to put the swap higherr than twice ram
[02:05] <Gator> yes, I am dual-booting, but I have 2 HDDs
[02:05] <bauer77> Hello, I am having trouble installing the java plugin for mozilla. can anyone assist me
[02:05] <zcat[1] > about a gig of swap, no matter how much ram seems to work for me :)
[02:05] <vox754> ddnngg: it is not an exact science setting swap.
[02:05] <ddnngg> yeah
[02:05] <bauer77> I have java installed just cant get the plugin to work
[02:05] <ddnngg> ive got 1000GB
[02:05] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: doesnt the installer have a resize option?
[02:05] <I-m-new> eternaljoy, how many partition you have.
[02:05] <ddnngg> and only 512 swap :P
[02:05] <ddnngg> :D
[02:05] <ddnngg> lol
[02:05] <shatrat> eternaljoy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213601
[02:05] <ddnngg> 1024 mb not gb :D:D:D
[02:05] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: what insatller?
[02:05] <linxeh> I have 8GB of swap on an 8GB box, and find I need that much
[02:06] <Trixsey> ddnngg, me too, in total :)
[02:06] <BrendanM> eternaljoy, I think PartitionMagic will resize partitions in place
[02:06] <hairulfr> eternaljoy: The easiest way of doing it would probably be by using Partition Magic, but don't know if that will run in Vista
[02:06] <linxeh> any idea what to do on a 64GB box ?
[02:06] <eternaljoy> I-m-new: one
[02:06] <n4cht> 1000gb?  why not just say 1TB?  (even though that's not -exactly- 1tb, who cares?  close enough.)
[02:06] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: the ubuntu installer, silly
[02:06] <braddcadd2000> Hello everyone.  My scanner is detected with "sane-find-scanner" but not with "scanimage -L" or "sudo xsane".  I have Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) and an HP Officejet 5610 (all-in-one) scanner.  The scanner is listed as supported and there are people who have it running on Linux.  Thanks for any help.
[02:06] <eternaljoy> BrendanM: i dont have PartitionMagic
[02:06] <ddnngg> Trixsey can i pm ??
[02:06] <linxeh> n4cht:  it is 1TB
[02:06] <cypherdelic> ddnngg, you wrote 256mb not 1024, how much RAM do you got now??
[02:06] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: yeah, but then I lose my Vista
[02:06] <Trixsey> ddnngg, sure
[02:06] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: why?
[02:06] <Gator> hairlufr: I want to keep the data
[02:06] <CrakeHunter> uh im still on xserver @ pwnguin
[02:06] <rogue780> zcat[1] , thanks a lot, I found my missing router :)
[02:06] <I-m-new> eternaljoy, follow the link that shatrat posted to you
[02:06] <linxeh> n4cht: 1TB = 1000GB = 1000 * 1000 MB etc
[02:06] <BrendanM> I don't know of any other software that will move NTFS partitions without messing them up
[02:06] <CrakeHunter> i did that command with sudo...
[02:06] <ddnngg> ive got 1024 and Gator have 256 :)
[02:06] <zcat[1] > rogue780: yeah, but do you know where it is physically?
[02:06] <noldon> ?
[02:07] <BrendanM> you might have to repartition and then reinstall Vista
[02:07] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: when it creates a new partition, the ubuntu installer deletes all partitions and destreoys Vista
[02:07] <vox754> eternaljoy: why would you lose Vista?
[02:07] <CrakeHunter> even though it said - stopping GNOME display manager...
[02:07] <eternaljoy> I-m-new: what link?
[02:07] <shatrat> eternaljoy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213601
[02:07] <I-m-new> I have 256 mb of ram and 612 mb swap memory space :D
[02:07] <cypherdelic> linxeh, KB, GB, MB even do NOT exist
[02:07] <eternaljoy> vox754: when it creates a new partition, the ubuntu installer deletes all partitions and destreoys Vista
[02:07] <I-m-new> etermaljoy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213601
[02:07] <linxeh> cypherdelic: eh ?
[02:07] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: i had my roommate resize XP with the "manually partition" option
[02:07] <hairulfr> Gator: You should partition the disks beforehand then, as I said before, Partition Magic is pretty good, you select manually edit, and just chose your new partition. Only problem is that partition magic costs...
[02:07] <Gator> BrendanM, it's XP, and the HDD I'm putting ubuntu on isn't the same one as the windows one
[02:07] <rogue780> zcat[1] , yeah, just couldn't remember the IP, and I needed to adjust a few things and didn't want to do a full hardware reset
[02:07] <cypherdelic> you cant handle binary with base 10, especially not with KILO (1000)
[02:07] <hairulfr> Gator: Then no problem, just select the disk
[02:08] <BrendanM> Gator, I was talking to eternaljoy who's doing Vista
[02:08] <CrakeHunter> how do i exit my graphical surface and enter plain text mode? ("/etc/init.d/gdm stop" - didnt work)
[02:08] <zcat[1] > rogue780: guy I know had that problem; had an old server somewhere in his flat, massive uptime, still on the network, couldn't remember where he put it. Found it at the bottom of a closet a while later...
[02:08] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: i need to create a new partiton for ubuntu
[02:08] <linxeh> cypherdelic: both the SI and the IEC recommend that 1GB = 1000 MB = 1000,000 KB etc
[02:08] <I-m-new> you can try Partition Magic, for resizing your partition.
[02:08] <Gator> but there is data on the disk >_>
[02:08] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: yes. gparted is capable of this
[02:08] <cypherdelic> its KiBi, TiBi, MeBi
[02:08] <eternaljoy> I-m-new: LISTEN thois tiome :)i need to create a new partiton for ubuntu
[02:08] <shatrat> eternaljoy, read this, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213601, or Ill have to e-stab someone in the e-face.  It solves your problem.
[02:08] <hairulfr> Gator: Try booting up the cd and start the install, It'll all make sense, I'm sure
[02:08] <hairulfr> Gator: Oh
[02:08] <rogue780> zcat[1] , nice
[02:08] <vox754> eternaljoy: that can't be. Are you sure? You resize first, then with the unallocated space you partition. Or create the partitions first and then install OSes.
[02:08] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: but doesnt that lose Vista?
[02:08] <n4cht> 1tb is actually 1024gb, thanks.
[02:08] <I-m-new> eternaljoy, try Partition Magic
[02:08] <eternaljoy> vox754: and it should keep Vista there?
[02:08] <BrendanM> Yeah, those links are all backwards for what eternaljoy wants
[02:08] <linxeh> cypherdelic: those are alternative units. KB and MB do exist and are in common usage.
[02:08] <n4cht> don't correct me suckah!
[02:08] <n4cht> heh.
[02:08] <cypherdelic> kilobyte is a marketing gag, thats it, never think that make real sense
[02:09] <Gator> hairulfr, I know, but my original question was if I should manually edit partitions or use the auto-partition tool in the installer
[02:09] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: the manual partion tool will let you shrink an ntfs partition, and you can make new partitions from the newly freed space
[02:09] <cypherdelic> so everything i define does exist?
[02:09] <linxeh> n4cht: no, 1TB == 1000 GB. 1TiB = 1025GiB
[02:09] <BrendanM> s/he's already got vista on and wants to add linux, right? not the other way 'round
[02:09] <cypherdelic> i define you as a stupid
[02:09] <cypherdelic> so you are
[02:09] <linxeh> whatever
[02:09] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: so I can keep Vista, and create a new partition?
[02:09] <cypherdelic> i granted common usage
[02:09] <simple_x> help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5155/ <-----
[02:09] <BrendanM> Gator, if you're installing on a clean drive, you can just use the auto-parition
[02:09] <zcat[1] > #ifdef cyperdelic
[02:09] <vox754> eternaljoy: yeah, if it doesn't fail, it should be okay. But if you have the Vista CD, probably better to partition and then install.
[02:09] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: so gparted works like partition magic?
[02:09] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: unless vista really broke something, i dont see why not
[02:09] <zcat[1] > nm...
[02:09] <linxeh> if you want to be unambiguous you use standard units
[02:10] <linxeh> if you want to be a hard drive merchant you dont
[02:10] <I-m-new> Guys I'm leaving right now.. Tomorrow i will come.
[02:10] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: basically, yes, it works like partition magic
[02:10] <n4cht> one gigabyte (GB) is 1,024MB, or 1,073,741,824 (1024x1024x1024) bytes. A terabyte (TB) is 1,024GB
[02:10] <eternaljoy> I-m-new: is that a threat? :)
[02:10] <BrendanM> How well does the Ubuntu manual partition tool work on NTFS partitions?
[02:10] <cypherdelic> linxeh: KiBI is the official, Mb is a marketing gag
[02:10] <hairulfr> Gator: Manual edit isn't as confusing as it sounds, if you take a look at it, it'll probably make sense, then come back here if you need more.
[02:10] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: cool
[02:10] <BrendanM> I've heard it can bork them
[02:10] <shatrat> eternaljoy, did you read the link I posted? 3 times?
[02:10] <I-m-new> eternaljoy, lol.
[02:10] <BrendanM> shatrat, that link is backwards
[02:10] <eternaljoy> shatrat: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213601
[02:10] <n4cht> 1 terabyte (TB) is 1,099,511,627,776 bytes
[02:10] <BrendanM> they already have Vista
[02:10] <linxeh> n4cht: no, 1 KiB is 1024 bytes etc. 1KB is 1000 bytes
[02:10] <pwnguin> BrendanM: ive heard it can bork them as well, but ive done like 3 now and not screwed up yet
[02:10] <eternaljoy> I-m-new: :)
[02:10] <zcat[1] > moving partitons around always has the potential to bork stuff..
[02:10] <Gator> hairulfr, I have installed ubuntu before and the manual partition borked my drive
[02:10] <cypherdelic> linxeh, its standard because the industry defines it as standard, but it is mathematicaly incorrect
[02:11] <BrendanM> they're not trying to add vista to an Ubuntu install
[02:11] <linxeh> n4cht:  these are both defined by both the SI and IEC
[02:11] <BrendanM> they're trying to add Ubuntu to a Vista install
[02:11] <simple_x> Help :x http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5155/
[02:11] <eternaljoy> i want to create a new partition so I can install Ubuntu
[02:11] <I-m-new> eternaljoy, follow the link posted 4 times for you. If you dont understand what the link says, so use the Software in your Windows Vista google it "Partition Magic" it is commonly use for resizing the partition
[02:11] <linxeh> cypherdelic: one kilogram = 1000 grams. one kilobyte = 1000 bytes
[02:11] <eternaljoy> I-m-new: what link?
[02:11] <cypherdelic> linxeh: no
[02:11] <hairulfr> Gator: Let me get this right: You have two drives, on contains windows, the other contains data that you want to save?
[02:11] <n4cht> linxeh, actually..  i stand corrected.  you're absolutely right.
[02:11] <Boohbah> n4cht, linxeh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
[02:11] <cypherdelic> 1byte 8bit
[02:11] <Gator> hairulfr: yes
[02:11] <I-m-new> eternaljoy, a link that contain h t t p.
[02:11] <zcat[1] > 1/1000th of a phone?
[02:11] <larson9999> just using gnome again after a few years.  i can't find some settings.  for instance, where do you tell it not to group similar icons on the taskbar?
[02:11] <cypherdelic> 1000byte=8000bit?
[02:11] <mzuverink> Should I be running an ident server?
[02:11] <linxeh> Boohbah: uhuh, your point ?
[02:12] <n4cht> http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Data_units  <- proved me wrong.
[02:12] <ziofester> ciao
[02:12] <cypherdelic> you need the BASE 2
[02:12] <vox754> eternaljoy: although you can do it with Ubuntu CD, I prefer Knoppix. Just my preferred choice.
[02:12] <cypherdelic> BINARY
[02:12] <n4cht> or rather, linxeh proved me wrong, that link just confirmed it.
[02:12] <sparr> whats the ubuntu equivalent of alsaconf?
[02:12] <eternaljoy> I-m-new: i didnt get any link
[02:12] <pwnguin> sparr: alsaconf?
[02:12] <ziofester> italian
[02:12] <eternaljoy> vox754: ok
[02:12] <ziofester> help
[02:12] <LjL> !it | ziofester
[02:12] <ubotu> ziofester: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:12] <Boohbah> linxeh: you are both reiserfscking silly :)
[02:12] <linxeh> its a pedantic issue anyway
[02:12] <shatrat> eternaljoy, here is one thats the other way round, http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[02:12] <eternaljoy> vox754: the knoppix live CD?
[02:12] <sparr> pwnguin: ALSA configuration app
[02:12] <BrendanM> eternaljoy, here's the link everyone keeps giving you, but I think it's the opposite of what you want because nobody is listening to your question: http://www.eloff.se/tutorials.php?ubuntu_vista_dualboot
[02:12] <zcat[1] > 1000 whales == 1 killer whale?
[02:12] <linxeh> Boohbah: oh definitely, it's a ridiculous thing to argue about anyway
[02:13] <I-m-new> eternaljoy: maybe you are not watching the chat carefully. a guy posted http link for you four times.
[02:13] <BrendanM> thanks shatrat
[02:13] <eternaljoy> BrendanM: its weong way around :P
[02:13] <ziofester> thanks
[02:13] <pwnguin> sparr: i was thinking it was alsaconf, but apparently not
[02:13] <linxeh> zcat[1] : 1000 whales == an awful lot of blubber
[02:13] <I-m-new> eternaljoy, contact with shatrat.
[02:13] <Gator> kilowhale
[02:13] <shatrat> I-m-new, everything is clear now.
[02:13] <BrendanM> eternaljoy, shatrat just posted one that's the right way for you
[02:13] <vox754> eternaljoy: yes, it used QTParted. I did partitioning with it, before installing Ubuntu. I used it to prepare the partitions for SUSE.
[02:13] <shatrat> Gator, I hear seagate is already working on terawhales.
[02:13] <zcat[1] > 1/1000 of a phone = 1 microphone ?
[02:13] <I-m-new> Ok
[02:13] <hairulfr> Gator: OK, IMO the best solution is moving the data you want to save to the windows partition, then format the one you want Ubuntu on, you can tell it to use the entire drive, unless you're out of HDD space
[02:13] <sparr> i have a sound blaster, emu10k1 chip, that isnt working in ubuntu.  help?
[02:13] <cypherdelic> linxeh: i dont care, you count a binary system the decimal way, that is incorrect
[02:13] <eternaljoy> http://www.eloff.se/tutorials.php?ubuntu_vista_dualboot  <-- WRONG way around LOL
[02:13] <cypherdelic> be happy withit
[02:14] <hairulfr> Gator: *tell ubuntu installer to use the entire drive
[02:14] <eternaljoy> vox754: but doesnt that lose Vista?
[02:14] <n4cht> xcat[1] , 1000*1phone = Megaphone.
[02:14] <cypherdelic> but dont tease me anymore
[02:14] <vox754> zcat[1] : quit it.
[02:14] <zcat[1] > sorry..
[02:14] <vox754> n4cht: quit it.
[02:14] <Gator> hairulfr: the windows drive only has 6GB left and I have about 50GB on the drive I'm installing on
[02:14] <BrendanM> eternaljoy, this link is what you want: http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[02:14] <I-m-new> ciao
[02:14] <Gator> n4cht, wouldn't it be 1,000,000x1phone=megaphone?
[02:14] <Mr680x0> uh, I have yet another program
[02:15] <Mr680x0> *problem
[02:15] <eternaljoy> that link is too late for me as Vista is ALRREADY installed
[02:15] <BrendanM> Gator, just move the data you want to save someplace else and then tell the Ubuntu installer to do whatever it wants with that drive. That's the simplest
[02:15] <eternaljoy> BrendanM: that link is too late for me as Vista is ALRREADY installed
[02:15] <BrendanM> ok
[02:15] <linxeh> cypherdelic: the SI and IEC units (MiB etc) count them in a binary way. 1MiB = 1024KiB. if you use conventional notation you risk confusion with those outside the field. it is unreasonable to expect a mathematician or physicist to know that the computer field is bent backwards and uses distorted terminology
[02:15] <larson9999> what's all this with sblive?  never gave me any trouble at all
[02:15] <Mr680x0> in Firefox parts of the webpages I'm viewing appear ranfomly across the screen
[02:15] <eternaljoy> BrendanM: I biught it witrh Vista on it
[02:15] <BrendanM> well, then you'll have to resize the partition using qpart
[02:15] <Mr680x0> *randomly
[02:15] <vox754> eternaljoy: I had Win XP in a single 80 GB partition. I used Knoppix to resize to 30 GB. Then created other partitions and installed Ubuntu. Win XP never noticed.
[02:15] <Gator> BrendanML You mean move it to about 80 CDs? That's my only option right now >_>
[02:15] <cypherdelic> linxeh: no the others confusing me, i only use KiB
[02:16] <vox754> linxeh: quit it.
[02:16] <eternaljoy> vox754: thats amazing :P  wonder if it works same with Vista! yes?
[02:16] <BrendanM> Gator, I thought you said you had two drives? Just copy it to the other drive.
[02:16] <BrendanM> eternaljoy, probably
[02:16] <zcat[1] > only one comment; always shut down windows cleanly before you start the linux installer; you cannot safely resize a dirty filesystem.
[02:16] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: step one, back up your vista install. step two download the ubunto live cd. step 3 manually partiion, and resize the vista partition. it will move the files out of the space you make but keep vista intact
[02:16] <BrendanM> just resize it with qparted
[02:16] <Gator> BrendanM: I've already stated that the other drive has far too little space
[02:16] <linxeh> cypherdelic: ahh - likewise. I only describe binary systems in the SI units, otherwise it is confusing
[02:16] <linxeh> vox754: sure
[02:16] <n4cht> banana banana banana terra cotta banana terra cotta terra cotta pie.     that's all i have to say about that.  going back to offtopic.  someone let me know if matthias ever comes back.
[02:16] <eternaljoy> vox754: so you loaded knoppix live CD and it can resize your HD to smaller and then create a new partition, and MS Windows still worked?
[02:17] <Gator> jigawatt
[02:17] <franktank> hey how do i reinstall grub from this live cd
[02:17] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: is the Ubuntu live CD the same as knoppix live CD?
[02:17] <Mr680x0> can anyone help me?
[02:17] <BrendanM> Gator, why don't you turn the free space on the drive into a separate partition and install Linux there?
[02:17] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: no
[02:17] <zcat[1] > Gator: you're .2 gigawatts short of a flux capacitor..
[02:17] <vox754> eternaljoy: I defragmented XP partition various times to make sure everything was packed in the first part of the disk, then resized. At first I was also worried, but it worked perfectly.
[02:17] <Mr680x0> this is a really annoying problem, it makes the computer unusable
[02:17] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: similar in nature, but the ubuntu one will install... ubuntu
[02:17] <ronalith> how do I install ubuntu 6.10 in text only mode, without entering the desktop
[02:17] <ronalith> ??
[02:17] <eternaljoy> vox754: ok :)
[02:17] <cypherdelic> linxeh, never mind, think the only usage of KB is a good selling strategy, in my point of view 1000 is completely senseless
[02:17] <Gator> BrendanM: That's what I'm trying to do =.= I'm just asking how I should go about making that partition
[02:18] <pwnguin> ronalith: install, or use?
[02:18] <zcat[1] > ronalith: alternate CD
[02:18] <ronalith> install
[02:18] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: I got an ubuntu live CD already!  Can I use that instead of knopix?
[02:18] <larson9999> lol@how many bytes are in a gb?
[02:18] <pwnguin> eternaljoy: sure
[02:18] <zcat[1] > I don't think the regular CD can do a text-only install
[02:18] <eternaljoy> pwnguin: ok cheers
[02:18] <linxeh> cypherdelic: yeah, definitely - its a marketing strategy though i guess
[02:18] <BrendanM> yeah, eternaljoy, just resize the partition and hope for the best. If it gets messed up, reinstall Vista using the CD that came with your PC
[02:18] <ronalith> zcat1 alternate cd?
[02:18] <eternaljoy> BrendanM: LOL
[02:18] <BrendanM> or does vista come on a DVD now?
[02:18] <linxeh> ronalith: there is an "alternate install CD" which has a text mode installer
[02:18] <hairulfr> Gator: Ok, I've never used the auto one, and I wouldn't on a drive that contains valuable data, and since you're not sure what you're doing manual isn't an option, I would partition the drive before I install, then make sure the partition is easily recognizable (a amount of GB you can distinguish from the other partition(s)). Then chose the partition. But you need to partition it from windows, and the only partitioning program I've used for a
[02:19] <cypherdelic> linkey: thats why i ever try to avoid KB
[02:19] <ronalith> so I must download it?
[02:19] <zcat[1] > ronalith: yes, there are two; desktop and alternative.. you want alternative
[02:19] <zcat[1] > afraid so..
[02:19] <ronalith> I understand... I have desktop
[02:19] <larson9999> the good lord willing, i'll never have to try vista
[02:19] <vox754> eternaljoy: Knoppix CD and Ubuntu CD are different. They are both based on Debian. Knoppix is good because it is run Live, and therefore has lots of drivers ready to test different hardware.
[02:19] <bucketfan99> hey so i had to change my mobo in this ubuntu machine of mine. now i don't have an eth0. but during boot it mentions the realtek chipset that is eth0. and the 8139 moduels are loaded. but no eth0!!!
[02:19] <ronalith> thank you very much
[02:19] <ronalith> bye
[02:19] <zcat[1] > desktop will only do a gui install
[02:19] <BrendanM> Gator, can you boot into windows and use a partitioning utility there?
[02:19] <bucketfan99> how do i get ubuntu to make the device go ?
[02:19] <Gator> BrendanM: Yes
[02:19] <linxeh> ronalith: they work in different ways - the desktop one copies the live filesystem to your hard drive, the alternate one installs all the packages from .deb files
[02:19] <BrendanM> Ok, then that's what I'd do.
[02:19] <cypherdelic> Does anbody know about kernel 2.6.17-50 and nvidia restricted module?
[02:19] <Gator> BrendanM: I just want to know what partitioning program to use =.=
[02:20] <hairulfr> Gator: Partition MAgic
[02:20] <BrendanM> Gator, partitionmagic is the industry standard for windows, but if you don't have it, try to find a decent free one.
[02:20] <larson9999> Gator: use gparted live cd
[02:20] <mzuverink> anyone have an english to spanish kvoctrain kvtml file laying around or know a good link?
[02:20] <Gator> okay, I'm going to boot the computer in windows and talk to you guys then
[02:20] <BrendanM> A gparted live CD would work, but I hate them
[02:20] <pwnguin> apparently partition magic is sworn by, but if you're looking for free/open source, there's qtparted and gparted
[02:21] <Gator> what do you mean by sworn by?
[02:21] <larson9999> BrendanM: why?  i've had nothing but success with gparted live cds
[02:21] <zcat[1] > is installing vista/ubuntu like XP/ubuntu ?
[02:21] <bucketfan99> sooo
[02:21] <mzuverink> pwnguin, gparted live cd blows everything else away, wouldnt recomment any symantec program to anyone
[02:21] <BrendanM> Gator, it's known to be very good and doesn't screw up your partition table. But the free ones are pretty solid too. I've never had trouble with gparted, I just dislike the interface
[02:21] <bucketfan99> how do i get ubuntu to unbugger everythign with the new mobo.
[02:21] <linxeh> Gator: it is the reference standard. everyone uses it because it is reliable and stable
[02:21] <hairulfr> I'm off to bed all, good luck Gator. And Partition Magic is really good, you can't mess it up. It's more or less fool proof. Just defrag your drive befre doing anything.
[02:21] <hairulfr> *before
[02:22] <pwnguin> actually, i really liked gparted's interface, from what i saw in the newer installers
[02:22] <Gator> okay, well, I'm going to switch computers
[02:22] <larson9999> zcat[1] : almost.  but you can only do it once
[02:22] <mc44> zcat[1] : no vista support here! :)
[02:22] <mzuverink> gparted lice cd, USE NOTHING ELSE!
[02:22] <mzuverink> *live
[02:22] <pwnguin> so anyone share files on their network with samba?
[02:23] <zcat[1] > mc44: not asking for support, I just will probably encounter vista one day and was wondering how different it is; still runs on NTFS doesn't it?
[02:23] <larson9999> mzuverink: well, it comes on sysrescuecd now, too :)
[02:23] <vox754> I like partitioning with QTParted inlcuded in Knoppix CD.
[02:23] <pwnguin> im having troubles getting my laptop to connect to it
[02:23] <mc44> zcat[1] : yep, and I was just kidding. but dont mention vista again :p
[02:23] <vox754> pwnguin: no samba here, sorry.
[02:23] <zcat[1] > can I mention V*sta ?
[02:23] <mc44> zcat[1] : better
[02:23] <pwnguin> aww you guys
[02:24] <hairulfr> zcat[1] : Haste la vista vista...or something
[02:24] <pwnguin> I love Vista hamburgers
[02:24] <mzuverink> yup, but I prefere good old fashioned gparted by itself, gives you  less options to screw something up if your a noob
[02:24] <sparr> how can i make ubuntu re-do whatever magic it does at install time to configure my sound card?
[02:24] <zcat[1] > does resizing V*sta kill the w*ndows activat*on ?
[02:24] <BrendanM> Once, I climbed a mountain and saw a beautiful vista.
[02:24] <vox754> hairulfr: hasta la vista... baby
[02:24] <Trixsey> lol
[02:24] <mzuverink> speaking ov vista, anyone read BOFH this week?
[02:24] <pwnguin> one time, i stepped in a pile of vista
[02:24] <mzuverink> very funny vista slam
[02:24] <Trixsey> pwnguin, lol!
[02:24] <Trixsey> Vista is kewl
[02:24] <Trixsey> I got it for free
[02:24] <BrendanM> One time, Vista's fancy GUI stole all my ram and killed my video card.
[02:25] <Trixsey> pfft
[02:25] <hairulfr> BrendanM: WOW!
[02:25] <pwnguin> one thing, i wish there was better tablet support in ubuntu, that could compete with vista
[02:25] <zcat[1] > BrendanM: the same can be said of nvidia/beryl with the latest kernel :(
[02:26] <_shawn> what's the recommended vpn server to install?
[02:26] <BrendanM> yeah, I'm just kidding though. None of the machines I have could come close to running Vista. I'm running Xubuntu on a PIII laptop w/380 megs of ram
[02:26] <majkie> if you whant to get the ubuntu installation to boot with an alternate installation kernel, is that an easy task to perform?
[02:26] <vox754> Alright, everybody. The Vista talk stops now.
[02:26] <majkie> my own customized kernel
[02:26] <linxeh> BrendanM: you managed to get KDE to run on that spec machine ?
[02:26] <majkie> my motherboard is not supported by ubuntu
[02:26] <BrendanM> no, it's Xubuntu
[02:26] <larson9999> for me, it's all principle.  not buying another OS unless there is some radical benefit
[02:26] <sparr> i hate installing new hardware and the only "easy" way to make it work is to reinstall linux
[02:26] <linxeh> oh my bad :)
[02:26] <linxeh> sorry
[02:26] <majkie> so i need to get the installation to boot with my own compiled kernel
[02:26] <linxeh> I misread :D
[02:27] <linxeh> xubuntu here too
[02:27] <zcat[1] > I have gnome on my lappy; 500MHz / 256M ram, it's not too bad..
[02:27] <zcat[1] > funny thing, edgy actually runs better on it than dapper did..
[02:27] <Clint-> Are there any alts to beryl and compiz advail?
[02:27] <grimboy> zcat[1] ,  My god you must be dying.
[02:27] <zcat[1] > Nah, it's quite acceptable. I can ever fire up OOo
[02:28] <vox754> majkie: seems advanced stuff. You may need to "create" your own Linux distro which just include your kernel. I can't help, you, sorry.
[02:28] <Clint-> lol
[02:28] <sparr> how do i make sound work in ubuntu?
[02:28] <zcat[1] > I just try not to run more than a couple of programs at the same time..
[02:28] <larson9999> xubuntu runs nicely on a p3 class machine.
[02:28] <mc44> !sound | sparr
[02:28] <ubotu> sparr: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:28] <Konoko> lol ^^ i dunno im just a newbie :D
[02:28] <Konoko> which one in the sound options improves the volume? when shoutcasting?
[02:29] <Clint-> if someone has some time i have a few questions
[02:29] <shatrat> !ask|clint
[02:29] <ubotu> clint: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:29] <vox754> !ask > Clint-
[02:29] <larson9999> non of us have time.  that's why we're here.
[02:29] <Clint-> hehe
[02:29] <Clint-> Are there any alts to beryl and compiz advail?
[02:29] <derFlo> can i hibernate my pc via terminal (sorry im german and i dont know the exact words)
[02:29] <bauer77> can someone give me some assitance installing the java plugin for mozilla
[02:29] <Clint-> derFlo : yes
[02:30] <Mr680x0> when in FireFox, it puts random pieces of the web page I'm viewing all over the screen, it makes it unusable
[02:30] <derFlo> Clint-: and whats the command?
[02:30] <Mr680x0> can anyone help with this?
[02:30] <vox754> !restricted
[02:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:30] <Clint-> ugh i saw a script for doing it about a hour agao sec
[02:30] <derFlo> Clint-: would you pleaaase say how to do that
[02:30] <sparr> mc44: sound works on the livecd.  sound works if i reinstall ubuntu.  i want it to "just work" without having to reinstall.
[02:31] <sparr> mc44: i have neither the time nor the patience to devote hours to a task the installer can handle in seconds
[02:31] <vox754> bauer77, I think you can enable the java with the Restricted Formats page !restricted
[02:31] <mc44> sparr: did you read the links?
[02:31] <Clint-> bauer what ubuntu distro?
[02:31] <varun> hey guys, is it possible to have a background color for the xfce panel ?
[02:32] <sparr> mc44: yes.  im not going to go compile things that i dont need
[02:32] <tanlaan> anyone know how I could change the resolution of the terminal screens *when you use ctrl-alt-F1-6*
[02:32] <Gator> hey
[02:32] <sparr> tanlaan: svgatextmode
[02:32] <vox754> derFlo, try "sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh"
[02:32] <Clint-> der
[02:33] <tanlaan> sparr: what?
[02:33] <Clint-> derFlo : check system - prefrences powermanagment
[02:33] <Clint-> for a gui
[02:33] <thekidrio> holy toledo
[02:33] <sparr> tanlaan: its a program
[02:33] <Clint-> and sec i am looking though history for the script
[02:33] <vox754> tanlaan: you need to enable it during boot, in the "kernel" line in "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:33] <thekidrio> there are som wicked hawt open source ladies here today
[02:33] <scissors> hello, can someone tell me what version of ubuntu i should install on an intel core duo system?
[02:33] <mcquaid> join #mythtv-users
[02:33] <mc44> sparr: run amixer and paste the output
[02:33] <Gator> BrandonM left?
[02:34] <daaku> anyone know how to build a static version of expect? (i want a single binary that i can move around) - i'm only successful in building a dynamically linked one
[02:34] <varun> helloooo ? any xubuntu, xfce ppl here ?
[02:34] <Gator> Who else was helping me with partitions?
[02:34] <thekidrio> anyone else attending the southern california linux expr?
[02:34] <vox754> scissors: Ubuntu 6.10, 32-bit
[02:34] <thekidrio> expo even
[02:34] <mc44> sparr: to the pastebin that is
[02:34] <sparr> mc44: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[02:34] <mc44> sparr: aplay -l
[02:34] <derFlo> Clint-: well, i want my pc beeing hibernated when i am sleeping, it should work automatically
[02:34] <tanlaan> sparr: well is there any config files for them? ones that i could change from 800x600 to 1024x768
[02:34] <sparr> aplay: device_list:222: no soundcards found...
[02:34] <CrakeHunter> i am searching for a command to kill the xserver
[02:34] <sparr> tanlaan: yes
[02:35] <zcat[1] > CrakeHunter: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[02:35] <eontasticness_> howdy
[02:35] <scissors> vox754, will it automatically use both cpus?
[02:35] <Gator> Who was helping me with partitions?
[02:35] <mc44> sparr: did you change to alsa by doouble clicking on the volume control
[02:35] <Mr680x0> no one can help me?
[02:35] <vox754> scissors: yes.
[02:35] <scissors> thanks! :)
[02:35] <eontasticness_> hey are Bad Blocks in fsck always indication of a bad hdd or can it sometimes just be a software issue
[02:35] <Clint-> derrflo i am sure i saw it had something to do with sigterm i cant find the article
[02:35] <Thiagovfar> Hello, could anyone help me here? -I'm just trying to get my Dial-Up connection works on Ubuntu but it just don't go far (it simply don't connect).
[02:35] <vox754> Mr680x0: we are terrible sorry...
[02:36] <Dante123> hi all.....where does one get automatix...from the Synaptic Package manager?  Or do you dl from website?
[02:36] <sparr> mc44: im not using gnome
[02:36] <tanlaan> !CLI
[02:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:36] <aSt3raL_> every time i install updates to feisty i have to recompile my nvidia drivers.  what would cause this?
[02:36] <LjL> !automatix | Dante123
[02:36] <ubotu> Dante123: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:36] <mc44> sparr: what are you using?
[02:36] <sparr> mc44: openbox
[02:36] <mc44> sparr: ah well, no idea then
[02:37] <eontasticness_> my fileserver is trying to make me cry
[02:37] <Dante123> where does on get this piece of software that ubotu doesn't advocate, sponsor, or endorse?
[02:37] <sparr> i HATE problems best solved by reinstalling
[02:37] <sparr> its just ridiculous that the installer can do this and nothing else can
[02:37] <jpoeta> hi
[02:37] <eternaljoy> i just installed Ubuntu on my notebook. How can I now tell Ubuntu to use my ethernet adsl modem?
[02:37] <vox754> tanlaan: in the "kernel" line, you can add an option such as "vga=792" or "vga=789" which will set different resolutions.
[02:37] <jpoeta> EVERYBODY
[02:37] <mc44> sparr: Im sure its not best solved by reinstalling, I just dont know how to solve it
[02:37] <LjL> Dante123: ask google
[02:38] <mc44> sparr: try asking crimsun if you can catch him
[02:38] <sparr> mc44: neither does anyone else
[02:38] <jpoeta> ADSL?
[02:38] <Clint-> ?
[02:38] <jpoeta> in your notebook?
[02:38] <Clint-> what u mean
[02:38] <maynoth42> Can anyone please help me...  I don't want to reformat :C
[02:39] <Clint-> jpoeta: ?
[02:39] <aSt3raL_> is there a program that will overwrite nvidia drivers on an update?
[02:39] <maynoth42> my color is stuck at 256 colors
[02:39] <Clint-> maynoth42:  c:]  are u running ubuntu?
[02:39] <maynoth42> even though my xorg.conf says its 24
[02:39] <maynoth42> yes
[02:39] <maynoth42> ubuntu edgy eft 6.10 all updates
[02:39] <CrakeHunter> hello, i am trying to install nvidia drivers: i am missing the "libc header files" the installer says. what should i do?
[02:39] <larson9999> do the 'vista' machines come with 2gig ram?
[02:39] <eternaljoy> i just installed Ubuntu on my notebook. How can I now tell Ubuntu to use my ethernet adsl modem?
[02:39] <maynoth42> I have integrated graphics
[02:39] <maynoth42> not nvidia/ati
[02:40] <eternaljoy> maynoth42: does integrated graphic still play movies and DVD smoothly?
[02:40] <Clint-> maynoth42:  i have intergrated also i have the same issue haven solved it yet
[02:40] <maynoth42> yesh
[02:40] <maynoth42> no problems
[02:40] <maynoth42> but
[02:40] <zcat[1] > rebooting...
[02:40] <eternaljoy> maynoth42: why would u need a dedicated nvide card?
[02:40] <maynoth42> the weird thing is
[02:40] <maynoth42> I don't
[02:40] <eternaljoy> Clint-: whats the problem?
[02:40] <maynoth42> everything worked fine until thismorning
[02:40] <eternaljoy> maynoth42: what happened?
[02:40] <vox754> maynoth42: you need to provide motherboard and integrated video card
[02:40] <maynoth42> then my colors went to 256 instead of 24bit
[02:40] <Gator> 4 days to download a 42MB torrent! :O
[02:41] <Clint-> just wanted to know if the are a few alt programs for beryl like compiz < my ati 200m isnt coperating
[02:41] <vox754> larson9999: don't ask about vista.
[02:41] <maynoth42> edited my xorg.conf to override and force24bit
[02:41] <maynoth42> still a no go
[02:41] <maynoth42> I can't figure it out
[02:41] <eternaljoy> maynoth42: does it work ok on other OS?
[02:41] <maynoth42> its an FIC AM37  with itegrated savage3d
[02:41] <larson9999> vox754: no, i was wondering if now, pcs will start coming with 2gig :)
[02:41] <eternaljoy> Gator: :O
[02:41] <maynoth42> yes it worked fine on ubuntu
[02:41] <maynoth42> until thismorning
[02:42] <eternaljoy> maynoth42: what brand notebook?
[02:42] <maynoth42> when I booted up
[02:42] <maynoth42> not notebook
[02:42] <eternaljoy> ok
[02:42] <maynoth42> its a custom built
[02:42] <Gator> lol eternal, that was the estimate when it had downloaded like 3kb
[02:42] <maynoth42> FIC AM37 with integrated savage3d
[02:42] <maynoth42> graphics
[02:42] <CrakeHunter> i am trying to install nvidia drivers: i am missing the "libc header files" the installer says. which files should i install? there is no plain "libc" in synaptic.
[02:42] <Clint-> maynoth42:  i have the same issue i am running at 128 megs on the intergrated video cant get it to 32 meg
[02:42] <eternaljoy> Gator: :)
[02:42] <eternaljoy> has anyone got a adsl ethernet modem to work with Ubuntu?
[02:42] <maynoth42> you mean 32bit?
[02:42] <eontasticness_> there is a Via graphics driver out there
[02:43] <Clint-> eternaljoy:  yes right now
[02:43] <eontasticness_> i had to get it for a machine i built someone
[02:43] <eontasticness_> otherwise it ran poor
[02:43] <eternaljoy> Clint-: how?
[02:43] <eontasticness_> with the default xorg driver
[02:43] <Gator> everyone who was helping me left =.=
[02:43] <EdgEy> are there any 'safe' linux tools for resizing ntfs partitions?
[02:43] <eternaljoy> Clint-: how do I tell the adsl modem to connect to the exchange?
[02:43] <vox754> eontasticness_: yes, it comes in the kernel; type "man via"
[02:43] <eternaljoy> EdgEy: no
[02:43] <maynoth42> well mine was working perfect with the default driver on ubuntu last night
[02:43] <larson9999> EdgEy: the live gparted cd is safe.
[02:43] <eternaljoy> EdgEy: nothing is 100% safe
[02:43] <eontasticness_> EdgEy: no resizing tools are SAFE ---
[02:43] <Gator> whoa, EdgEy spelled his name like the guy called edgeworth in Phoenix Wright!!!
[02:43] <Clint-> eternaljoy:  i just installed ubuntu and everything worked mabey cause i set the modem beforehand
[02:43] <Gator> okay, that was off topic
[02:44] <EdgEy> objection !
[02:44] <eternaljoy> larson9999: does gparted come on ubuntu or knoppix?
[02:44] <eontasticness_> EdgEy: not even partition magic (which is the best util to do that )  but gparted hasnt screwed anything up that ive used yet
[02:44] <eternaljoy> Clint-: how did you set the modem up?
[02:44] <Nontitle> i use the x server quite alot but when i press the shift button for 8 seconds it activates "Slow Keys" which i don't want happening. i do alot of drawing and things that require the shift key. is there any way to disable this?
[02:44] <larson9999> EdgEy: just backup you're data first.  defrage the ntfs partition first, too.
[02:44] <EdgEy> well yeah, obviously nothing is 100% safe
[02:44] <eontasticness_> eternaljoy:  you can get a gparted live cd
[02:44] <eontasticness_> google "gparted live cd"
[02:44] <Gator> Hey, whoa, I'm "purchasing" partition magic right now
[02:44] <eternaljoy> eontasticness_: where?
[02:44] <CrakeHunter> it is safe that we all die!
[02:44] <CrakeHunter> ;)
[02:44] <EdgEy> but i need to somehow kick like 200gb of data from ntfs to ext
[02:44] <eontasticness_> its an iso
[02:44] <Clint-> eternaljoy:  in windows my modem has a ip u can connect to to config it
[02:44] <eternaljoy> eontasticness_: ok cheers
[02:44] <eternaljoy> Clint-: wha ISP?
[02:44] <Clint-> eternaljoy:  verizion
[02:45] <larson9999> eternaljoy: if you mean the cds, i don't know.  but the live cd(or usb if you like) is worth the dl anyway
[02:45] <PwcrLinux> Im back
[02:45] <Nontitle> hi
[02:45] <Gator> Who here knows anything about partitions?
[02:45] <thekidrio> hi
[02:45] <sparr> How can I find out what modules and module parameters a livecd is using the make my sound work?  So that I can duplicate those options on my main OS.
[02:45] <vox754> eternaljoy: I don't know what you mean with configuring ADSL modem in Ubuntu, please elaborate.
[02:45] <thekidrio> gator,  what is your ?
[02:45] <mickbuntu> hum,  the  chat  client  crashed   switching  servers....
[02:46] <pchad> hello
[02:46] <Gator> well, I was wondering what I should use to make a partition for ubuntu
[02:46] <lufis> Gator: you can partition in the livecd
[02:46] <Clint-> eternaljoy: yer i dont understand all newer modems either have software or they have ram that you can flash
[02:46] <EdgEy> use whatever is needed to resize your other partitions if you are dualbooting, ubuntu can do the rest
[02:46] <thekidrio> hey phaedrus!!
[02:46] <EdgEy> i'm not sure if you can resize during the installer.. probably can
[02:46] <Gator> Partition Magic sounds good, and I'm on XP now, so I am looking into it, but lol I'm not using the liveCD again
[02:46] <vox754> Gator: you've been told many times, GParted, QTParted, Ubuntu Live CD, Knoppix CD, even other distros...
[02:46] <thekidrio> hehe gator
[02:46] <eternaljoy> vox754: my adsl modem. how I tell it to connnect to my exchange!  it only came with a MS windows setup CD
[02:47] <adam_> hey guys I think I might have messed up my ubuntu updater.. i get this message when i try to install the updates from the update notifier in the top right corner: E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-multiverse.list (dist parse)
[02:47] <adam_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:47] <adam_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[02:47] <Dritzen> I'm looking for a program to rip the contents of a cd to .bin format, any package suggestions or ways I could do this?
[02:47] <Gator> I know vox, but I'm just being assured to do this before I get partition magic
[02:47] <heartbt> need some help here.  Dis some searches on the forum, and NOT coming up with anything.
[02:47] <eternaljoy> Gator: you've been told many times, GParted, QTParted, Ubuntu Live CD, Knoppix CD, even other distros...
[02:47] <Gator> clever
[02:47] <eternaljoy> Gator: u dont need part magic
[02:47] <EdgEy> Gator i used Acronis but PM should do the same job
[02:47] <larson9999> EdgEy: if you mean to convert a partition with data on it, that's a bit different.  you can resize with gparted and move partitions.  but you won't 'convert' the partition type and keep the data intact.  you have to create a new partition in the type you want an then move the data.
[02:47] <Clint-> eternaljoy:  yes it has a cd
[02:47] <eternaljoy> Gator: PM wont read Vista will,it?
[02:47] <lufis> adam_: look at /etc/apt/sources.list in Gedit or something and see if there's anything abnormal on line 2
[02:47] <EdgEy> larson9999, yeah
[02:47] <EdgEy> i'm thinking copy over, resize, copy over, etc :/
[02:47] <adam_> Gator, the best partition editor is the GParted Live CD
[02:48] <Gator> many people have said part magic, some have said GParted
[02:48] <Gator> I'm so confused =.=
[02:48] <larson9999> EdgEy: then gparted should do fine
[02:48] <eontasticness_> i am in FSCK hell :(
[02:48] <eternaljoy> adam_: will that part a HD and leave Vista in tact?
[02:48] <thekidrio> part magic is cool fun stuff
[02:48] <eontasticness_> 2.7TB fileserver got a bad hdd
[02:48] <thekidrio> but not needed
[02:48] <Dritzen> Gator: Partition magic isn't free.  GParted is free.  both are really good
[02:48] <eontasticness_> raid6, shouldve just kept on ticking
[02:48] <larson9999> Gator: if you have the cash and don't mind spending it, buy partition magic.
[02:48] <eontasticness_> nope
[02:48] <Dritzen> I'm looking for a program to rip the contents of a cd to .bin format, any package suggestions or ways I could do this?
[02:48] <Gator> yeah, I have the money and it's not that much
[02:49] <eontasticness_> Dritzen:  any particular reason you're not using iso?
[02:49] <eternaljoy> adam_: ?
[02:49] <Dritzen> The program I want to read the cd with can't read .iso files
[02:49] <vox754> Gator: don't get confused. Use a program. When you've done it you'll feel better.
[02:49] <adam_> eternaljoy, the Gparted Live CD will let you do anything you want - you can move your HD space anywhere you want.. you can put it in front of Windows, behind it, in front of linux, behind it.. its great and very easy to use
[02:50] <adam_> I used it recently and I'm a noob
[02:50] <Gator> of course, I could always just "purchase" part magic
[02:50] <eternaljoy> adam_: and Windows wont be lost?
[02:50] <larson9999> gator got your data backed up?
[02:50] <zcat[1] > Dritzen: mount -o loop YourCdImage.iso /media/cdrom
[02:50] <Gator> no, and it would cost a lot to back it up
[02:50] <Dritzen> Thanks ZCat
[02:50] <eternaljoy> adam_: I bought a notebook with Vista on it!  But I need to create a part for Ubuntu without losing Vista
[02:51] <adam_> i was running low on space in my winxp partition so i took the space from the back of my linux partition so that i wouldnt be erasing anything from linux, and put that space at the back of my winxp partition and gained 7gb :)
[02:51] <lufis> adam_:  your swap was 7 gig?
[02:51] <larson9999> Gator: 200gb won't cost much more than partition magic.  i'd buy another harddrive and use gparted
[02:51] <mindstate> adam_: thats what i've been trying to do with my linux part..how did u do that
[02:51] <eternaljoy> adam_: where can I download the latest qparted live cd?
[02:51] <zcat[1] > Dritzen: probably as root.. I think you can also open them in various archive managers (fileroller?)
[02:51] <adam_> yep you can do that eternaljoy , i bought a notebook with winxp media center and i installed linux on it
[02:51] <vox754> eternaljoy: see? you have nothing to fear, just don't hesitate.
[02:51] <Gator> good point, but I think I'm going to "purchase" partition magic anyways
[02:51] <eternaljoy> vox754: hehe :)
[02:51] <Gator> if you catch my drift
[02:52] <eternaljoy> vox754: where can I download the latest qparted live cd?
[02:52] <Dritzen> zcat:  Hm.. that's the opposite of what I'd like to do I think.  I'm trying to take the contents of a cd and rip it into .bin format
[02:52] <eternaljoy> gparted live cd rather
[02:52] <larson9999> eternaljoy: with gparted! that's what we've been talking about
[02:52] <eternaljoy> larson9999: gparted live cd rather
[02:52] <EdgEy> eternaljoy it comes on the live cd.. for ubuntu
[02:52] <EdgEy> afaik
[02:52] <zcat[1] > Dritzen: you have an iso file or a physical disk ?
[02:52] <larson9999> eternaljoy: yea
[02:52] <eternaljoy> larson9999:  where can I download the latest qparted live cd?  url?
[02:52] <adam_> the newest version of Gparted Live CD doesnt come on the ubuntu live CD
[02:52] <eternaljoy> larson9999: gparted live cd :)
[02:53] <eternaljoy> adam_: where can I get it please?
[02:53] <Dritzen> zcat:  I have a physical disc that I want to convert into .bin
[02:53] <larson9999> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:53] <Occasus> got aa question for you guys
[02:53] <adam_> um hang on i cant remember
[02:53] <vox754> lufis: what are you talking about? the back space doesn't mean anything like swap.
[02:53] <eternaljoy> larson9999: cheers big ears :)
[02:53] <Occasus> Lm sensors on a dell d620
[02:53] <Occasus> anyone have any experience
[02:53] <lufis> vox754: nevermind, misunderstood
[02:53] <larson9999> eternaljoy: you can also use a usbstick if you want
[02:53] <PwcrLinux> bbl
[02:54] <eternaljoy> larson9999: is this the latest?  gparted-livecd-0.3.2-0 Notes (2006-12-01 13:57)
[02:54] <eternaljoy> larson9999: usbstick for what?
[02:54] <zcat[1] > Dritzen: don't know how to do .bin .. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=diskimage.iso will rip it to an iso. There are plenty of programs around that can read and/or burn iso's directly (both linux and windows)
[02:54] <larson9999> eternaljoy: instead of a cd for gparted live.
[02:54] <larson9999> eternaljoy: maybe not.  the one i burned says 3.3 on it :)
[02:54] <eternaljoy> adam_: is this the latest?  gparted-livecd-0.3.2-0 Notes (2006-12-01 13:57)
[02:54] <eternaljoy> larson9999: where?
[02:54] <Dritzen> zcat: Alright, thanks
[02:54] <adam_> eternaljoy, mindstate - whatever you guys do.. when you are resizing your partitions..dont just think of it as making one partition bigger than the other.. you have to take the space from the BACK of the partition you are taking from.. otherwise you will end up taking files that windows is using and you will corrupt your OS possibly
[02:55] <epimeth> ahoy all! :-)
[02:55] <Harris> Hey
[02:55] <epimeth> is there any way I can manually download packages?
[02:55] <epimeth> specifically pptp-linux ?
[02:55] <adam_> eternaljoy, yep thats it
[02:55] <zcat[1] > I hafta go..
[02:55] <Occasus> hey can anyone help :)
[02:55] <vox754> adam_: don't scare them further. They had already understood. Now you'll see a lot more questions heading your way.
[02:56] <Harris> Hey, I have a question... Can I make a cluster with 2 computers running ubuntu server edition? How?
[02:56] <adam_> vox754, haha
[02:56] <vox754> Harris: don't know. Newbies here.
[02:56] <Harris> Ah. Alright.
[02:56] <eternaljoy> adam_: cool
[02:56] <larson9999> eternaljoy: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
[02:56] <MonkeyINAbaG> Harris) yes
[02:56] <MonkeyINAbaG> you can
[02:56] <Harris> Oh
[02:56] <eternaljoy> larson9999: ty :)
[02:56] <Harris> How?
[02:57] <MonkeyINAbaG> you need a clustering kernel
[02:57] <MonkeyINAbaG> di a google for linux clustering
[02:57] <Harris> okay. i'll do that and come back..
[02:57] <eternaljoy> adam_: can u reepat that in layman terms? :)
[02:57] <MonkeyINAbaG> do *
[02:57] <epimeth> guys?  any place I can manually download packages?
[02:57] <MotorCityMadMan> is it safe to upgrade from kde 3.5.2 to 3.5.6 in dapper ?
[02:57] <Gator> what is bootmagic?
[02:57] <eternaljoy> adam_: i have a 100gog HD with Vista on it!  I need to create a new part for Ubuntu.  Whats the steps>?
[02:57] <larson9999> i messed with clustering for a while but by the time i got it set up moore's law kicked in and a new computer was as fast as the 4 i was clustering
[02:58] <eternaljoy> adam_: take the space from BACK?
[02:58] <adam_> eternaljoy, first download GParted Live CD and burn it to disk
[02:58] <vox754> epimeth: search the repositories, they are web pages you can access with your browser, then click on a file and download it
[02:58] <kling0n> is there a repo with the new (2.3) version of gphoto2
[02:58] <kling0n> ?
[02:58] <epimeth> vox:  where are the repositories?
[02:58] <epimeth> oh...right
[02:58] <epimeth> kay
[02:59] <Gator> Guys, what is bootmagic and would it be of any help when dual booting?
[02:59] <thekidrio> no gator not really
[02:59] <adam_> eternaljoy, You want to take space from the BACK of the Vista Partition - that way you won't be harming any of the files Vista is using.
[02:59] <vox754> epimeth: have you tried searching them on your web browser, "ubuntu repositories"
[02:59] <thekidrio> grub is good enough
[02:59] <CrakeHunter> id like to run beryl - should i use xgl or aiglx? which is better and why?
[02:59] <thekidrio> CrakeHunter: who makes your vid card?
[02:59] <eternaljoy> adam_: u tell gparted to use the BACK of the vista part?
[02:59] <adam_> eternaljoy, yes
[02:59] <Gator> thekidrio, what does bootmagic do?
[02:59] <vox754> adam_: I told you...
[02:59] <eternaljoy> CrakeHunter: whats beryl?
[02:59] <CrakeHunter> both i suppose
[03:00] <eternaljoy> adam_: ok
[03:00] <eternaljoy> !beryl
[03:00] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:00] <CrakeHunter> eternal - its software that makes you customize your 3d desktop
[03:00] <Harris> !cluster
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <adam_> eternaljoy, it has options like that.. like.. space in front of partition, space behind partition, space in partition
[03:00] <larson9999> eternaljoy: you don't have a 2nd hd?  that's really preferable imho for dual booting, especially for newbies.
[03:00] <Harris> I couldn't find anything I could understand on google...
[03:00] <eternaljoy> can I use beryl on a notebook which doesnt have a dedicated video card?
[03:00] <eontasticness_> !fsck
[03:00] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:00] <eternaljoy> adam_: ok! so make sure i use BACK
[03:00] <eternaljoy> adam_: ty for the tip
[03:01] <eternaljoy> larson9999: no
[03:01] <thekidrio> eternaljoy: i dont think so
[03:01] <tim167> wanted: simple+fast+easy video editor, similar to VirtualDub, anyone ? thanks
[03:01] <Gator> thekidrio, what does bootmagic do?
[03:01] <Toran> OK, any QT apps (amarok, k3b, anything kde) I install core dump. I'm in XFCE. what's going on?
[03:01] <Toran> I have a detailed explanation of the problem here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+ticket/3345
[03:01] <adam_> eternaljoy, once you take the space from the Back of Vista - you can just create a partition with that space since you dont already have a linux partition like i did
[03:01] <Toran> It'd be great if someone helped. I'm sick of not having KDE
[03:01] <thekidrio> Gator: its a commercial boot loader
[03:01] <Gator> which is...?
[03:01] <thekidrio> roughly same as grub or lilo
[03:01] <Gator> oh
[03:01] <thekidrio> allows you to choose what image to boot
[03:01] <Harris> I need some help creating a cluster with 2 computers running ubuntu server edition
[03:02] <adam_> eternaljoy, when I resized mine, I had to take from the Back of WinMCE, and put it in the back of Ubuntu, to keep from harming both systems
[03:02] <thekidrio> cluster? i might use knoppix harris
[03:02] <vox754> tim167: I don't know. But VirtualDub is nice, isn't it. You mean it is not available for Ubuntu?
[03:02] <larson9999> eternaljoy: well, i'm not trying to jinx you but i'm laying high odds, you'll screw up the mbr and will have to reinstall windows at least once :)
[03:02] <thekidrio> are you talking about a real cluster or a fail over?
[03:02] <epimeth> arg... look... I just want the official ubuntu repository?  and it doesn't seem to be XX.archive.ubuntu.org
[03:02] <adam_> larson9999, I'm a semi-noob and it worked fine the first time
[03:02] <eternaljoy> larson9999: how can I avoid that?
[03:02] <tim167> vox754: not that i know, its not in synaptic anyhow
[03:03] <Harris> I just need something so I can use the power of both the computers to run a single process
[03:03] <eternaljoy> larson9999: teach me BEFORE I have a chance to screw it up
[03:03] <Harris> Is that possible?
[03:03] <eternaljoy> adam_: ok
[03:03] <Biovore> epimeth: archive.us.ubuntu.com (I think)
[03:03] <larson9999> adam_: yeah until something goes wrong with windows and he reinstalls it.  :)
[03:03] <thekidrio> hrmm
[03:03] <thekidrio> its not us.?
[03:03] <vox754> tim167: You can look at the developer's page. There is also a "VirtualDubMod", is it the same?
[03:03] <adam_> eternaljoy, the GPARTED Live CD is very self explanatory if you look at its options and think about it .. its not hard at all
[03:03] <eternaljoy> adam_: btw, whats the difference when a notebook says it has a core duo a dual 2 core 2 duo?
[03:04] <eternaljoy> adam_: ok
[03:04] <Gator> hm, there's already a partition on one of my HDDs called Linux swap
[03:04] <Biovore> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- thats it..
[03:04] <eternaljoy> adam_: btw, whats the difference when a notebook says it has a core duo a core 2 duo?
[03:04] <epimeth> bio... should de.archive work?
[03:04] <Harris> thekidrio: what?
[03:04] <Biovore> no clue.. let me find a mirror list
[03:04] <EdgEy> eternaljoy, completely different cpu's..
[03:04] <epimeth> de.archive is sort of working
[03:04] <adam_> eternaljoy, hey wait a minute... have you installed ubuntu on that notebook yet?
[03:04] <epimeth> I can't find any packages tho
[03:04] <EdgEy> core2 is the 'sequel' to core lol
[03:04] <eternaljoy> are the core duo a core 2 duo 64-bit processors?
[03:05] <eternaljoy> adam_: no
[03:05] <Gator> Okay, new question, I already have a 40GB partition for Linux and a swap partition that's much too small, what should I do?
[03:05] <thekidrio> i thought the archives were us.archive not archive.us
[03:05] <EdgEy> yes
[03:05] <Biovore> epimeth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?action=show&redirect=Archive
[03:05] <thekidrio> or whatever your country code was
[03:05] <larson9999> eternaljoy: just read about dual booting and where your options for setting it up.  just my experience that most new folks who put them on the same hd sooner or later get things dorked up.
[03:05] <thekidrio> Gator: thats fine
[03:05] <eternaljoy> EdgEy: is the core duo a 64-bit processors?
[03:05] <eternaljoy> larson9999: ok
[03:05] <EdgEy> core2 is
[03:05] <EdgEy> not sure about 1
[03:05] <thekidrio> unless you want to make it a file server or a media center pc
[03:05] <Harris> 1 isnt
[03:05] <Harris> 2 is
[03:05] <eternaljoy> larson9999: dont curse me, for your curse will return to you instead :P
[03:05] <Gator> thekidrio, what should I do about the swap? it's only 200 MB
[03:06] <nanothief> if there any way to find out the progress of dd?
[03:06] <Biovore> core duo comes in 64bit and 32bit
[03:06] <Gator> 180MB*
[03:06] <adam_> eternaljoy, don't worry about all that stuff I told you... if You haven't already installed Ubuntu, ubuntu will create its own partition itself.. it knows not to mess with Windows.. it will give you choices to pick on how you want it to resize your Vista partition
[03:06] <funkygreendogs> quick question i need to rename all .htm files to .html in a directory but it wont let me put *.html as the target
[03:06] <larson9999> eternaljoy: you'll likely be fine :p
[03:06] <funkygreendogs> how do i do it in terminal like
[03:06] <Harris> thekidrio: so.. any ideas for cluster?
[03:06] <eternaljoy> Harris: so the core 2 duo is a 64-bit processor?  And the core duo is not?
[03:06] <Harris> As far as i know
[03:06] <eternaljoy> larson9999: ditto :)
[03:06] <vox754> Gator: install and you are on. But best to have one for root "/", one for "/home" and the swap one.
[03:07] <Gator> wait, what?
[03:07] <Harris> Any one know how to setup a cluster with ubuntu server edition?
[03:07] <Biovore> eternaljoy: dose cat /proc/cpuinfo have emt64 as a cpu feature?
[03:07] <eternaljoy> Harris: you could be wrong?
[03:07] <eternaljoy> Biovore: no idea
[03:07] <Harris> eternal: yes
[03:07] <Gator> I already have Ubuntu installed on it, but it's corrupt so I'm reinstalling it
[03:07] <adam_> eternaljoy, Heres what you do, follow these steps exactly - boot up your notebook with ubuntu in the drive and use the live CD.. once you are in there, download XChat and come back to IRC and I can walk you through it step by step
[03:07] <thekidrio> harris, not with ubuntu no but with knoppix i have set of a few clusters
[03:07] <Gator> but what was that about the "/" and the "/home"?
[03:07] <epimeth> bio.... arg... I can't find what I want... could you just point me to where I can find and download the pptp-linux package???
[03:07] <Biovore> I have a Core Duo laptop here and its 32bit only..
[03:07] <thekidrio> i would search for beowulf cluster + ubuntu
[03:07] <vox754> funkygreendogs: sorry, maybe there is someone with this problem in the forums in the programming section.
[03:07] <Harris> ok
[03:08] <EdgEy> Gator if you're reinstalling and there is no data you need
[03:08] <Harris> Thank you.
[03:08] <EdgEy> just delete the / /home swap partitions
[03:08] <thekidrio> sorry i could not help more harris
[03:08] <EdgEy> and make the swap 1gb or so this time
[03:08] <thekidrio> lemme know if you find some good stuff for ubuntu clustering
[03:08] <adam_> eternaljoy, download XChat and come back to this IRC before you start installing Ubuntu
[03:08] <funkygreendogs> $ cp -p *.htm /files/directory/*.html
[03:08] <eternaljoy> Biovore: so the core duo is 32 and core 2 duo is 64
[03:08] <funkygreendogs> u know what i mean
[03:08] <Harris> No problem. And sure.
[03:08] <eternaljoy> adam_: i cant today
[03:08] <Biovore> eternaljoy: I guess.. never messed with a core 2 duo..
[03:08] <Harris> do you have an email address i can send anything i find too? I won't be on the IRC for long
[03:08] <Gator> is there any way I can merge partitions?
[03:08] <funkygreendogs> vox754: ok ill have a look
[03:08] <adam_> eternaljoy, why not ?
[03:08] <facugaich> Biovore, Core Duo -> 32-bit, Core 2 Duo -> 64-bit
[03:08] <funkygreendogs> thanks
[03:08] <thekidrio> Harris: i have 6 pentium 3's in a cluster atm working fantastic
[03:08] <Biovore> try a 64bit os on it. and if it dosn't boot.. well you have an answer :-P
[03:09] <eternaljoy> I think the core 2 duo has one 64 and one 32.
[03:09] <eternaljoy> adam_: leaving soon
[03:09] <thekidrio> yeah harris, johnmichelin@ourgreatfamily.us
[03:09] <Harris> Alright.
[03:09] <Harris> Okay. Thanks!
[03:09] <Gator> okay, I'm confused, how many partitions do I need?
[03:09] <vox754> Gator: you need only two partitions, root / and swap. But you can create as many as you like, "/home" "/usr" "/var" are common choices, you can create one of your own "/mypartition"
[03:09] <thekidrio> atleast 2 gator
[03:09] <eternaljoy> why is having a 64 bit processor better than a 32 bit?  besides speed?
[03:09] <EdgEy> Gator, you're reinstalling ubuntu, is there any data you need on those partitions.
[03:09] <epimeth> bio... these places don't have individual packages... I've gone through 5 already and I all I can find are lists of packages... not the packages themselves
[03:09] <Plouj> hi
[03:09] <thekidrio> but most people use more
[03:09] <Gator> vox, why would I need those partitions?
[03:09] <Plouj> what packages gives me the GL/gl.h and other related headers?
[03:10] <Gator> for what reason would I use them?
[03:10] <EdgEy> so that user data is more seperated, for example you could have a faster hdd for /
[03:10] <Biovore> Gator: for a desktop user.. probably only need 2 (root and swap)  the other partion stuff is ment for server more secure setups
[03:11] <vox754> Gator: because advanced users know how to use them. At least "/home" is useful because you may reinstall the system without loosing your configuration files or data.
[03:11] <Gator> oh, so basically, if I only have have root and 1 user, I only need 2 swaps?
[03:11] <EdgEy> ol
[03:11] <EdgEy> lol
[03:11] <EdgEy> you need one swap
[03:11] <Gator> so confused =.=
[03:11] <Biovore> Gator: swap is virtual memory (kinda like a page file in windows)
[03:11] <Gator> okay, I need the 1 partition for my user, and the swap
[03:11] <thekidrio> hehe yeah it can be a bitch
[03:12] <thekidrio> yeah
[03:12] <EdgEy> Gator, no
[03:12] <thekidrio> thats all you need
[03:12] <Gator> what else do I need?
[03:12] <EdgEy> you need the 1 partition for ubuntu, and the swap
[03:12] <thekidrio> one for root
[03:12] <EdgEy> it's not 'for the user'
[03:12] <thekidrio> and one for swap
[03:12] <Gator> I know =.=
[03:12] <Biovore> (by root they mean "/" )
[03:12] <thekidrio> aye
[03:12] <thekidrio> root director
[03:12] <thekidrio> y
[03:12] <vox754> Gator: TWO partitions minimum, root "/" and swap. Swap is used for the system, you don't have to worry about it.
[03:12] <Gator> but why do I need a root one?
[03:12] <thekidrio> for everything other then swap
[03:12] <Biovore> Root "/" is like c:\ on windows
[03:12] <thekidrio> its where you store stuff
[03:12] <Gator> ...
[03:12] <thekidrio> swap is like.. yeah what bio said
[03:12] <Gator> I know what root is..
[03:12] <_Jaak_> are there any statistics on ubuntu usage? on what end of the world is it most populair>?
[03:12] <thekidrio> its the base directory
[03:13] <Arplos> I need some help here, guys, maybe someone can help me out.
[03:13] <vox754> Gator: you cannot install Linux without root "/"; it is the main "drive".
[03:13] <Gator> I need a generally large partition for Ubuntu, a swap, and another partition for root?
[03:13] <facugaich> !justask | Arplos
[03:13] <ubotu> Arplos: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:13] <EdgEy> lmfao
[03:13] <Gator> I mean, not for root
[03:13] <thekidrio> and swap is roughly 1.5 your ram
[03:13] <EdgEy> root is the 'partition for ubuntu'
[03:13] <thekidrio> yah
[03:13] <streather> anyone know a decent wiki guide on how to install beryl that's easy to understand?
[03:13] <thekidrio> what EdgEy said
[03:14] <thekidrio> streather: beryls main site has some good instructions
[03:14] <Gator> okay, you know what, I'm going to make a 40GB part for Ubuntu and a 1GB part for swap, is that good?
[03:14] <EdgEy> yes, perfect
[03:14] <Gator> okay
[03:14] <_Jaak_> Cool!
[03:14] <vox754> Gator: your "main large partition for Ubuntu" is the root partition. Yes that is good. But still create a third 10 GB partition.
[03:14] <moonlowe> whats a repo?
[03:14] <thekidrio> repository
[03:14] <pollywog> anyone know what causes /etc/hosts to be overwritten in Edgy?
[03:15] <thekidrio> place they store software moonlowe
[03:15] <Arplos> The problem is this> i installed windows, i had ubuntu installed. When i tried to return to ubuntu i deactivated the NTFS partition and activated the ext3 one, hda2, but it doesn-t boot.
[03:15] <moonlowe> thekidrio: how do i use it?
[03:15] <Biovore> moonlowe: a website that has software stored on it for debian..
[03:15] <thekidrio> moonlowe: add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:15] <moonlowe> thekidrio: then what? :/
[03:16] <nastjuid> is there a way to boot the 6.10 edgy Cd without the splash?
[03:16] <Arplos> I do not have currently an OS, i-m on Knoppix rigth now.
[03:16] <thekidrio> moonlowe: then sudo apt-update
[03:16] <thekidrio> then sudo apt-upgrade
[03:16] <thekidrio> to use that new repos
[03:16] <moonlowe> thekidrio: Biovore thank you :)
[03:16] <Mr680x0|Ubuntu> when I'm using internet apps, random parts of the window are placed randomly across the screen
[03:16] <Gator> How do I make a partition an active partition? For some reason my corrupt linux partition is the active one so I need to make a different one active
[03:16] <CrakeHunter> finally, beryl is working, thanks to you guys. one last question be4 i go to bed. now with beryl every frame around my windows has disappeard. can i reactivate them?
[03:16] <thekidrio> you can add repos with cat <repo url> | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:16] <Mr680x0|Ubuntu> it's very annoying and bordering on unusable
[03:16] <Mr680x0|Ubuntu> can anyone help?
[03:17] <Biovore> what is?
[03:17] <vox754> Gator: just format it and reinstall. It should activate.
[03:17] <ksnipa> I got a sis card installed (yes its shit), and anytime i run glxinfo my comp restarts any ideas on how I can fix that? and yes I do realize that my card wont be to run direct draw but the whole it resetting on me when i type glxinfo just bothers me
[03:17] <Mr680x0> no one knows how to fix this problem?
[03:17] <Gator> so it doesn't matter which partition is active?
[03:18] <Arplos> I want to return to ubuntu, then make up booting on windows. But i need to boot from ubuntu first, then edit the GRUB file.
[03:18] <vox754> Gator: your main Ubuntu partition must be active. Not your swap.
[03:18] <Gator> I know
[03:18] <Commander-Crowe> whasta good audio converter program?
[03:18] <yellow> hey guys, how do I set opensshd  motd to print out current date and time or other info about the system ?
[03:18] <newest> hey hey there ive just installed ntfs-config, ive managed to access windows files sweetly, but was wondering how i can extend the partition used by ubuntu, its only got 7gigs available for ubuntu, i want to exted it to use more
[03:18] <Mr680x0> this is a major pain in the ass
[03:18] <Gator> but okay, now I have 2 parts of unallocated space, and one is only 180MB
[03:19] <Arplos> I activated the ext3 partition, but it doesn-t loads.
[03:19] <funkygreendogs> ls *old|sed 's/\(.*\)\.old/mv \1.old  \1.new/'|sh
[03:19] <Biovore> Arplos: you install windows after installing linux?
[03:19] <funkygreendogs> amazing.....
[03:19] <Arplos> Yes.
[03:19] <funkygreendogs> just in case you wqanted to know
[03:19] <vox754> Gator: you can create other partitions with that space.
[03:19] <nnliu> hi, umm, my panels won't let me make em smaller heightwise than 31 pixels, any1 know how to change this? the default is 24
[03:19] <funkygreendogs> laterz
[03:19] <Biovore> Arplos: I bet windows ate your boot loader
[03:19] <vox754> funkygreendogs: great
[03:19] <ddnngg> is there any way to auto update Gnome :> ??
[03:19] <Arplos> Windows removed GRUB from the boot sector of my HD.
[03:20] <Biovore> Arplos: bingo.. that would do it..
[03:20] <Gator> Is there any way to merge to unallocated partitions?
[03:20] <thekidrio> ugh hate taht Arplos, can you select the boot order of your hd's?
[03:20] <thekidrio> in bios/.
[03:20] <Arplos> But, how i can restore it to there_+
[03:20] <yellow> hey guys, how do I set opensshd  motd to print out current date and time or other info about the system ?
[03:20] <thekidrio> err ?
[03:20] <Arplos> Only one.
[03:20] <Biovore> Gator: usualy.. you make your root.. then use the rest as swap (what ever is left over)
[03:20] <Arplos> Partitions are> Swap, ext3, FAT32 (data only) and NTFS.
[03:20] <Biovore> Arplos: you can re-grub the HD with the ubuntu disk I think..
[03:21] <Biovore> grub can boot windows...
[03:21] <Gator> Biovore, I know, but I have 2 empty partitions and I want to merge them for now
[03:21] <newest> is there anyway at all to extend the partition used by ubuntu, the ntfs(i got windows xp too on same pc) is using up too much diskspace, i want to have more for ubuntu
[03:21] <vox754> Gator: you delete the previous partitions and create them again. That's it. How big is your disk?
[03:21] <Biovore> Gator: well I don't think you can do that..
[03:21] <Biovore> Gator: use vox745 suggestion
[03:22] <Gator> vox: I did delete the 2, and now there's 2 sections of unallocated space, one of which is only 180MB
[03:22] <Biovore> Gator: now delete swap and remake it..
[03:22] <ddnngg> how to install new GRUB ??
[03:22] <Gator> I'm not installing anything right now
[03:22] <EdgEy> Gator delete any extended partitions encasing
[03:22] <nastjuid> how's AMD64 support in ubuntu?
[03:22] <EdgEy> ?
[03:22] <vox754> newest: you'd have to resize NTFS, and create a partition with the freed space with ext3.
[03:22] <Biovore> nastjuid: it works..
[03:22] <nastjuid> hehe
[03:22] <nastjuid> how bout stability?
[03:22] <newest> how do i go about resizing ntfs?
[03:22] <vox754> nastjuid: don't use it for desktop, only server.
[03:23] <Arplos> How to return or re/GRUB the HD_
[03:23] <vox754> !partitions
[03:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:23] <vox754> !GParted
[03:23] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:23] <nnliu> my panels have a current min of 31 pixels, any1 know how to change this? the default is 24
[03:23] <nastjuid> nice fast mirror for i386 :D
[03:23] <Nica> Wich one is better Ubunto 6.1 or Ubuntu 6.06 lts
[03:23] <Gator> arghhh
[03:23] <vox754> Arplos: type "grub"
[03:23] <EdgEy> an ntfs resize is goingto take a damn long time right? just noticing that gparted doesn't have a real progress bar :P
[03:24] <EdgEy> Gator take a screenshot of gparted
[03:24] <EdgEy> or whatever you are using
[03:24] <nastjuid> the alternate CD boots without splash screen right?
[03:24] <Gator> I'm using partition magic, and I am screenshotting it right now
[03:24] <larson9999> Edgy it does take a bit of time, yes.
[03:24] <nastjuid> trying to figure out why it keeps locking up
[03:24] <ddnngg> vox pm :)
[03:24] <Arplos> Yes.
[03:24] <larson9999> EdgEy: another nice thing about the gparted live... it includes a screenshot taking tool
[03:24] <EdgEy> damnit
[03:24] <EdgEy> it failed
[03:25] <vox754> ddnngg: I can't, I'm not a registered user...
[03:25] <larson9999> EdgEy: did you defag it?
[03:25] <ddnngg> fook :/
[03:25] <Arplos> GRUB version ... etc, i-m prompted.
[03:25] <EdgEy> what can i use to defrag? any linux tools?
[03:25] <larson9999>  EdgEy windows
[03:25] <thekidrio> EdgEy: no need
[03:25] <vox754> ddnngg: visit me at #vocx
[03:25] <thekidrio> ext3 does not need defrag
[03:25] <EdgEy> larson9999, my windows partition 'broke' on install
[03:25] <thekidrio> it takes care of that as it goes along
[03:25] <EdgEy> thekidrio, it's ntfs
[03:25] <thekidrio> ahhh
[03:26] <thekidrio> hrmm check ntfs-3g tools
[03:26] <larson9999> EdgEy: you're installing ubutnu?
[03:26] <thekidrio> might be something in that package
[03:26] <Gator> http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=partitionscreenshotrf4.png
[03:26] <EdgEy> larson9999, before i installed ubuntu, i deleted some of my windows partitions, i had like 3 different installs
[03:26] <EdgEy> i killed the bootloader that was loading the windows install i kept
[03:26] <larson9999> EdgEy: oh.
[03:26] <EdgEy> so i can't boot into windows now :)
[03:27] <Gator> did you look at the screenshot edgey?
[03:27] <larson9999> eternaljoy: see? EdgEy broke his already :(
[03:27] <thekidrio> EdgEy: hrmm have you looked at the grub.conf and tried to make it point to your windows install that works?
[03:28] <EdgEy> Gator, heh
[03:28] <larson9999> Gator: looks a lot like gparted.
[03:28] <EdgEy> just leave the 180mb unallocated
[03:28] <EdgEy> or
[03:28] <EdgEy> resize the ntfs to occupy that 180mb
[03:28] <EdgEy> and take the 1gb out of the 38,287
[03:28] <vox754> Gator: beautiful shot...
[03:29] <Gator> lol
[03:29] <eternaljoy> larson9999: LOL :P
[03:29] <arnducky> Anyone get sound to work on  a recent Gateway AMD/ATI-chipset laptop?
[03:29] <Gator> I'll just leave it unallocated
[03:29] <eternaljoy> EdgEy: what happened?
[03:29] <Gator> it's a whole 180MB
[03:29] <eternaljoy> larson9999: but my awareness is higher than EdgEy's :)
[03:29] <EdgEy> eternaljoy, it's my prob, windows was screwed before i installed ubuntu
[03:29] <Gator> Guys, what settings should I set for my partitions?
[03:29] <EdgEy> but it doesn't matter
[03:29] <eternaljoy> EdgEy: ok :)
[03:29] <EdgEy> since all being well you won't care about booting back into win
[03:29] <EdgEy> ;)
[03:30] <eternaljoy> EdgEy: :)
[03:30] <EdgEy> 'please try to free less space'
[03:30] <Matux> guys wich one do yo recomend 6.1 o 6.06 lts
[03:30] <Gator> guys
[03:30] <EdgEy> Matux 6.1
[03:30] <Matux> why
[03:31] <EdgEy> 6.06 is older and only gets security updates i think
[03:31] <Gator> Should I make the remaining space all 1 partition and then change it in the liveCD partition editor?
[03:31] <EdgEy> 6.1 isn't beta or anything
[03:31] <facugaich> On the other hand, I've been told 6.06 is more stable
[03:31] <Matux> neither 6.06
[03:31] <EdgEy> Gator, leave everything as it is
[03:31] <Gator> leave the unallocated space?
[03:31] <EdgEy> you can run the livecd now
[03:31] <vox754> Matux: it is Ubuntu 6.06 and Ubuntu 6.10. The latter is newer.
[03:31] <EdgEy> and it'll be good to make partitions from there
[03:31] <Gator> will the partition editor be able to see unallocated space?
[03:31] <Gator> okay
[03:31] <Gator> but, I want the latest edition of liveCD first
[03:32] <EdgEy> doesn't matter
[03:32] <EdgEy> you can update packages later
[03:32] <Gator> this one is from like july last summer
[03:32] <EdgEy> oh
[03:32] <Gator> lol
[03:32] <EdgEy> it should still work
[03:32] <arnducky> EdgEy: 6.06 is LTS or the current (L)ong (T)erm (S)upport release
[03:32] <Gator> okay
[03:32] <EdgEy> just not sure if 6.06 will update to 6.10 painlessly
[03:32] <Gator> well then
[03:32] <eternaljoy> does the core 2 duo have 2 processors?
[03:32] <Matux> have you heard about tallyman
[03:32] <arnducky> don't tell people that it doesn't get updates
[03:32] <EdgEy> dual core
[03:32] <MajorPayne> Is there any way that I can run a command when ever the internet connection comes up from being down?
[03:33] <Gator> I think I'll get the latest liveCD
[03:33] <arnducky> EdgEy: Gator did you see my comments?
[03:33] <Gator> no arn
[03:33] <MajorPayne> And by a command I mean a script that I wrote?
[03:33] <Matux> So What is that supposed to mean Long Term Support release
[03:33] <facugaich> eternaljoy, I think it has two cores, but I don't know whether core == processor
[03:33] <Gator> so wait, arnducky, should I keep 6.06 or update to 6.10?
[03:34] <EdgEy> Gator you can install from the 6.06 cd and update to 6.10
[03:34] <Gator> okay
[03:34] <nnliu> my panels have a current min of 31 pixels, any1 know how to change this? the default is 24
[03:34] <pollywog> in the old days of Linux, it was possible to make a floppy with a bzImage command so one could boot the machine if something went wrong with the boot image on the hd... is this still possible or are kernels too big now?
[03:34] <arnducky> EdgEy: plenty of people have upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 (NOT 6.1 -- Ubuntu releases don't follow the decimal system, but rather are date codes [YR] .[MO] ...
[03:34] <EdgEy> though the amount of updates probably means it'd take around the same time as just getting the new livecd
[03:34] <vox754> Gator: my suggestion is to resize your huge NTFS partition on the first disk, then move it to the beginning, then create the Linux partitions.
[03:35] <Gator> okay
[03:35] <Gator> well, I'm going to just install it as is
[03:35] <pollywog> Okay I just installed kubuntu again and installed VMware... let's see if the machine will boot
[03:35] <veb> i keep getting this error when i try to test sound on my sound car: failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[03:35] <arnducky> Gator, I broke my Athlon workstation 6.06 when upgrading it but it was a very weird system with mixed sources -- not a normal case
[03:35] <veb> any one know the problem?
[03:36] <EdgEy> heh, this time it's actually resizing
[03:36] <EdgEy> :)
[03:36] <arnducky> Gator, what version to choose and when to upgrade are very subjective and contextual decisions.
[03:36] <Matux> What should mean to me Long term Support release
[03:36] <vox754> veb: that happened to me several times. Only solution was to reboot; then after a couple of updates, it hasn't failed anymore.
[03:36] <facugaich> Matux, you'll get updates for 3 years
[03:36] <veb> hmm i have rebooted about 5times
[03:36] <Gator> arnducky
[03:36] <veb> still nothing...
[03:37] <veb> so i should run an update?
[03:37] <BoMEpsilon> Hello. I'm not quite sure how, but while editing the preferences in Beryl, /etc/X11/xorg.conf deleted. I'm running Windows right now on a dual-boot computer.
[03:37] <Gator> centextual... in what context?>_>
[03:37] <facugaich> Matux, only security updates I think
[03:37] <BoMEpsilon> I know Beryl made a backup of it while installing- is there any way to recover that?
[03:37] <EdgEy> BoM yeah
[03:38] <mqueiros> Hello! Whats the best way to upgrade from Evolution 2.4 (on 5.10) to Evolution 2.6 (on Dapper) ? Without loosing any mail ?
[03:38] <EdgEy> look in /etc/X11 there should be a backup, it depends on the install method
[03:38] <vox754> veb: I don't know how my system was corrected. It just worked. Sound cards are supposed to work; bad luck I guess... Yes update.
[03:38] <EdgEy> i used a script from the beryl wiki and it was something similar to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.beryl-script
[03:38] <Gator> arnducky, what are you talking about what are you talk about when you say what version to choose and when to upgrade?
[03:38] <K1GPL> i've got a strange problem, i can play music with vlc, but i get no sound when i play a dvd.  any suggestions on how i can fix this?
[03:38] <BoMEpsilon> EdgEy: I'll do that now. Will report back on how it went.
[03:38] <veb> vox754: how exactly do I update sorry? :D
[03:38] <adam_> I've got a problem with my XP partition, it tries to run Windows Setup, like its going to reinstall windows everytime I boot to it.. cant get to the desktop.. how do i turn off the Setup? I think its trying to run setup bc I had a Grub Error so I used by XP CD to try and either reformat my HDDs or repair them and ended up not needing to.. it was a Hardware problem... and now im stuck in the XP installation/setup and cant get to my XP desktop :( any ideas?
[03:38] <vox754> BoMEpsilon: the backup should have a name like "xorg.conf~" or something appended.
[03:39] <veb> synaptic package manager>
[03:39] <Gator> what is the date?
[03:39] <veb> don't worry!
[03:39] <veb> found it!
[03:39] <Matux> so wiht 6.10 i cannot update
[03:39] <Gator> what's the date in north america right now?
[03:39] <rpc> are there any known issues with kernel 2.6.17 and 2.6.18? should i avoid them? etch seems unstable and box locks up out of the blue quite often plus i tend to loose networking on it... anyone has similar exp?
[03:39] <BoMEpsilon> Checking now.
[03:39] <K1GPL> Gator, feb 10th right now
[03:39] <vox754> adam_: bad Windows!
[03:40] <rpc> Gator 10th
[03:40] <Gator> thanks
[03:40] <K1GPL> np
[03:40] <EdgEy> Matux, 6.10 will get updates guaranteed up until the next release of ubuntu, (7.04) and then for a few months after that, i don't remember the exact number
[03:40] <poningru> Gator: oh blargh?
[03:40] <EdgEy> at that point you can upgrade to 7.04
[03:40] <K1GPL> i've got a strange problem, i can play music with vlc, but i get no sound when i play a dvd.  any suggestions on how i can fix this?
[03:40] <poningru> Gator: why the nick?
[03:40] <adam_> any ideas?
[03:40] <EdgEy> 6.06 will get them for three years (since release, so i think it's 1.5 years left)
[03:40] <facugaich> Matux, yep, what EdgEy said, I think it's supported por 1 year or 18 months
[03:40] <poningru> EdgEy: whats wrong?
[03:40] <poningru> err adam_ whats wrong?
[03:40] <adam_> copy all important XP files to a disk from within Linux and reformat XP ?
[03:40] <Gator> poningru, what about my nick?
[03:40] <EdgEy> poningru, nothing :)
[03:41] <poningru> Gator: how did you happen upon it
[03:41] <rpc> what about my kernel?
[03:41] <poningru> cause /me is a gator
[03:41] <adam_> poningru,  I've got a problem with my XP partition, it tries to run Windows Setup, like its going to reinstall windows everytime I boot to it.. cant get to the desktop.. how do i turn off the Setup? I think its trying to run setup bc I had a Grub Error so I used by XP CD to try and either reformat my HDDs or repair them and ended up not needing to.. it was a Hardware problem... and now im stuck in the XP installation/setup and cant get to my XP desktop :( any i
[03:41] <adam_> deas?
[03:41] <Matux> So When the next release of Ubuntu arrives I have to install that release in order to ge updates
[03:41] <Gator> poningru: My last name is gates, and the nickname gator caught on
[03:41] <GaiaX11> Matux: I am still using 6.06 dapper and will get updates for 3 years. I think.
[03:41] <poningru> 0.o
[03:41] <Gator> btw florida gatos lol
[03:41] <arnducky> adam_ the problem you're describing cannot be caused by *only* hardware and it sounds unlikely that there is even a hardware issue based on what you've described.  How familiar are you with 'partitions', 'Master Boot Record' and 'bootstrap methods'?
[03:41] <neighborlee> is there a fix for nvidia issues..Ive tried forums but so far nothing is working...nvidia 6800 XT gpu
[03:41] <poningru> its gates?
[03:41] <Gator> gators
[03:41] <poningru> lol
[03:41] <rpc> Gator isn't your first name bill?
[03:41] <Gator> =.=
[03:41] <Gator> no it's William
[03:41] <Gator> xD
[03:41] <ardchoille> lol
[03:42] <EdgEy> neighborlee, nvidia issues such as..?
[03:42] <rpc> william b. ?
[03:42] <Gator> but yeah, no, no relation
[03:42] <hajiki> /topic
[03:42] <rpc> i knew you were around
[03:42] <adam_> arnducky, the Hardware problem is already solved.. it was with my Grub Login Error
[03:42] <vox754> Gator: the blue rectangle in your first disk is an extended partition. It is bad that your NTFS is eating that up.
[03:42] <neighborlee> EdgEy, well normal install of nvidia-glx and subsequently running sudo nvidia-xconfig aren't working..I reboot andit can't load nvidia module, so X wont start
[03:42] <CoRnJuLiOx> i'm trying to compile something and its saying "c compiler cannot create executables". am i missing something?
[03:42] <arnducky> rpc: try a diferent channel -- those kernels are not even in Edgey proposed updates yet and we have many newbs to help
[03:43] <rpc> arnducky hm
[03:43] <adam_> I am not able to get past the Grub Login Error and boot to either Ubuntu or WinXP.. but XP tries to install Windows each time.. like its still looking for my Setup CD in the CD tray
[03:43] <arnducky> <-- including me (heh)
[03:43] <Gator> guys I'm switching computer while I install ubuntu, brb
[03:43] <adam_> I am NOW* able to get past the Grub Login
[03:43] <neighborlee> EdgEy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851 < good friend gave me that, as he also runs ubuntu ,,no luck there either
[03:43] <Gator> fast like a ninja
[03:44] <Matux> Any one nows an url where I can download software for Ubunto (since Ubuntu uses gnome)
[03:44] <arnducky> adam_ 99% your MBR is screwed up -- does it say 'error 15' ??
[03:44] <adam_> arnducky, no no .. i dont have anymore Grub Login Errors
[03:44] <vox754> !ubunto
[03:44] <ubotu> It's spelled Ubuntu! with a U! *Ubuntu*!
[03:44] <adam_> I can boot to linux and XP now.. the problem now is that XP tries to run Windows XP installation, instead of booting to the desktop
[03:44] <vox754> Matux: what are you talking about?
[03:44] <GaiaX11> Matux: source.list
[03:45] <Matux> yes
[03:45] <arnducky> adam_: why are you asking for XP support in here.  Maybe you should try #windows
[03:45] <Matux> I mean , It's kind of hard to check out all the software list at sourceforge.net
[03:45] <adam_> arnducky, haha.. i figured it related to dual booting
[03:45] <vox754> Gator: talk to us. I want to know how you did before I die.
[03:46] <unop> adam_, are you sure you didnt try installing windows after linux was installed?
[03:46] <Gator> is there any way to reorganize grub so I can have the main Ubuntu boot and XP in a category, and the other Ubuntu boots in a different category?
[03:46] <GaiaX11> Matux: What about Synaptic?
[03:46] <adam_> unop, yes they have both been installed for a while now
[03:46] <Matux> I haven't heard about it
[03:46] <Matux> what's the url
[03:46] <unop> adam_, you can boot into linux now right?
[03:46] <ksngay> hey! anyone can help me with that? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1163
[03:46] <ksngay> ops
[03:47] <adam_> unop, correct
[03:47] <Zyrule> okay,  so i'm trying to do a server install of ubuntu.. i have the alternative cd and while its booting the install,  i used the acpi=off on the command line so that way it doesn't crash while booting,  and now it gets to a part where its probing the PCI... and just hangs...
[03:47] <ksngay> hey! anyone can help me with that? http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1597
[03:47] <vox754> Gator: yes, by editing the file "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:47] <GaiaX11> Matux: What are you running in your pc? Ubuntu or Windows?
[03:47] <Matux> well right know i am running windows
[03:47] <Matux> since my HD Die
[03:47] <Zyrule> the computer is old, it only has one 1 ISA slot,  no pci... so can i turn off the probing to the PCI but leave the probing on for the ISA so it'll find the ethernet card i have installed?
[03:47] <unop> adam_,  ok, then it's just a matter of verifying if grub is doing the right thing -- check the windows entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:47] <Matux> 'cause I use separate hard drives
[03:48] <arnducky> adam I will tell you this much: if you can boot to anything, then it's not (strictly speaking) a boot manager issue.  runs AFTER the boot mgr passes control to XP You have an installer stub -- correct
[03:48] <Matux> One for linux and the other for win
[03:48] <vox754> Zyrule: that is sad... buy a new PC. Sorry.
[03:48] <adam_> unop, i don't have a grub error anymore
[03:48] <veb> can anyone tell me why when I play Counter-Strike, I cannot aim with the mouse?
[03:48] <veb> i'm using wine.
[03:48] <adam_> I think the easiest way to bypass it is to just tell it to boot the HDD first and then the CD, and floppy
[03:48] <unop> adam_, but you do have a grub _anomaly_ where its not booting windows .. so you need to get to the source of that
[03:48] <adam_> I'll try that
[03:48] <Zyrule> vox:  its a school project... so...  i dont really feel like putting money into it...
[03:48] <GaiaX11> Matux: So, reinstall ubuntu in the other hd
[03:48] <daniele_> hi , i'm a new linux user, anybody can tell me how i can launch mozilla? i don't have a browser... sigh.. thanks
[03:49] <K1GPL> i've got a strange problem, i can play music with vlc, but i get no sound when i play a dvd.  any suggestions on how i can fix this?
[03:49] <adam_> it seems to think there is a winXP setup cd in the drive that it wants
[03:49] <GaiaX11> Matux: What do you mean by died HD?
[03:49] <veb> daniele_: click the firefox icon?
[03:49] <Matux> I mean I cannot install any operating system
[03:49] <vox754> Zyrule: Sorry again. You came just in time for newbie-time
[03:49] <arnducky> &^#$ing GAIM is moving the cursor/turning on/offf insert and even passing control to the desktop while I'm typing.  SOrry to anyone I started a help discussion with : I have to go fix that.
[03:49] <daniele_> i don't see the icon...
[03:49] <Matux> every time it returns hard disk error
[03:49] <Gator> Daniele_, it's on the menu bar on the top of the screen
[03:50] <veb> arnducky: get konversation :P
[03:50] <daviey> when you login via console, how do you change the welcome test??
[03:50] <Gator> it's a blue earth with no fox on it
[03:50] <GaiaX11> Matux: check the cables and try to format it again and reinstall ubuntu
[03:50] <Matux> and when I plug it, and star Windows which is install in a whole separeta hard drive Windows freeze
[03:50] <adam_> how do I reset my Repositories
[03:50] <Matux> I've check the cables
[03:50] <Matux> many time
[03:50] <Matux> times
[03:50] <Zyrule> oh well great me,  i guess i came in the right time for you to be a dick too huh? some support channel...
[03:51] <adam_> Zyrule, whats wrong bro
[03:51] <GaiaX11> Matux: how big is you win HD?
[03:51] <Matux> well sometimes when the CMOS loads doesn't recognize my hd
[03:51] <Matux> It's 80 GB
[03:51] <Matux> Maxtor
[03:51] <Gator> oh the joys of trying to get this liveCD to boot
[03:51] <Zyrule> i'm tired of stupid dicks that join this support channel to help people,  and whenever anyone asks a question.. "oh go buy a new pc." or bitching about noobs...
[03:51] <daniele_> on the intenet folder i see only the others programs, gaim , irc etc, but no the firefox
[03:51] <arnducky> anyone: b4 I go: I just updated VFS in Gnome (Edgy update) and it seems like a Gnome Desktop problem. I now have 4 trashbin windows raised -- not by me.  Anyone seen this b4?
[03:52] <Matux> you think It could be a Data bus issue
[03:52] <vox754> Zyrule: sorry. I'll leave you alone then. Good luck.
[03:52] <Gator> Why did the liveCD try to boot when I told it to check for defects?
[03:52] <CoRnJuLiOx> does anyone know if theres a binary for zsnes 1.51 out? i can't find it in synaptic.
[03:52] <Gator> oh, nvm
[03:52] <EdgEy> Zyrule, what kind of spec is that system?
[03:52] <Zyrule> its real old...
[03:52] <vox754> Gator: how do you do?
[03:53] <GaiaX11> Matux: What do you think of making a backup of your working HD data and re-formating it and installing the whole system again?
[03:53] <Zyrule> old cyrix processor,  with 80 mb of ram
[03:53] <EdgEy> ubuntu is probably the wrong distro for anything without PCI
[03:53] <Gator> vox: I'm sorry?
[03:53] <Matux> you mean install Windows an linux in the same hard Drive
[03:53] <adam_> Zyrule, what is the PCI its needing
[03:53] <GaiaX11> Matux: It has lots of space for that
[03:53] <vox754> Gator: with your install... I want to know.
[03:53] <GaiaX11> Matux: yes
[03:54] <Zyrule> the only distro i can get to boot with no problem is mandrake,  i cant get that to install properly cuz it has a scratch in the cd so most of the packages wont install
[03:54] <Gator> vox754: oh, trying to get the liveCD to boot
[03:54] <daniele_> ubuntu, in this moment is downloading 213 updates, this will include maybe the firefox?
[03:54] <nemo_home> ok, who's bright idea was it to rename the kernel
[03:54] <Matux> See I am not a big fan of doing that since I damage a MBR with Suse 9
[03:54] <eontasticness_> Zyrule:  have you tried puppy linux or damnsmall linux
[03:54] <nemo_home> without updating the wireless util name?
[03:54] <Zyrule> i mean,  if i turn off the hardware probing,  that will probably will work,  but then i would have to install my ethernet card manually right?
[03:54] <Zyrule> eh not yet,  a bunch of poeple on another linux support channel,  told me ubuntu would be my best bet
[03:54] <nemo_home> do I have to symlink ipw3945d-2.6.17-10-generic to ipw3945d-2.6.17-10-386, or is this going to get fixed by ubuntu?
[03:54] <GaiaX11> Matux: Although I would not recommend to install win at all
[03:54] <eontasticness_> Zyrule: not on something that old
[03:55] <Matux> Well i have just got a 20 GB disk, should that bee enough
[03:55] <nemo_home> 'cause I hate to muck about with stuff that should theoretically be managed
[03:55] <Matux> gaiax11,jajaja
[03:55] <nemo_home> but I also, kinda need wireless, oh, working
[03:55] <Zyrule> i dont want x-windows or anything
[03:55] <Gator> Matux, it'll squeeze in but I wouldn't recommend it
[03:55] <Zyrule> just set up a ssh server
[03:55] <CrakeHunter> hello, id like to install heliodor , what is the command ?
[03:55] <GaiaX11> Matux: you just said 80gb
[03:55] <vox754> !heliodor
[03:55] <Matux> Gator, what wouldn't you recomend
[03:55] <eontasticness_> Zyrule: eh, even an ubuntu base install is a little bloated
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about heliodor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <Matux> yes
[03:56] <eontasticness_> Zyrule: id go with DSL or puppy, then you are only adding packages that you need
[03:56] <Zyrule> I tried LFS but that wouldn't boot either
[03:56] <nemo_home> # cat /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945  | grep quiet /sbin/ipw3945d-$(uname -r) --quiet
[03:56] <eontasticness_> instead of having to remove junk
[03:56] <nemo_home> referring to that, btw
[03:56] <Zyrule> okay,  cool,  i'll give those a try.
[03:56] <rogueChsbrgr> CrakeHunter: try apt-get
[03:56] <Gator> Matux: If you only have one disk that's 20GB, I wouldn't recommend dual booting on it
[03:56] <CrakeHunter> apt-get heliodor
[03:56] <CrakeHunter> ?
[03:56] <Zyrule> thank you
[03:56] <nemo_home> oh, and if there are any devs on here, I'd be just as happy if one would fix this
[03:56] <MeinLeiben> Uhh, hi guys. A bit of a newb here, but I'm having trouble with my MA111 USB wireless adapter...
[03:56] <nemo_home> I'm sure I'm not the only person who updated and discovered wireless not working
[03:56] <Matux> no, no, no Gator, I meant installing Ubuntu on it
[03:56] <adam_> whats the easiest way to fix my repositories
[03:56] <GaiaX11> Gator: He said 80gb
[03:56] <rogueChsbrgr> have to sudo it
[03:56] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: maybe the same issue I'm ranting about?:)
[03:57] <GaiaX11> Gator: it is more than enough
[03:57] <MeinLeiben> On Windows it was able to find signals just fine...
[03:57] <Matux> is it enough space 20Gb for Ubuntu
[03:57] <Gator> yeah, if he has 80GB then it would work
[03:57] <rogueChsbrgr> ie: sudo apt-get install heliodor
[03:57] <eontasticness_> Zyrule: no prob
[03:57] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: about some smartass renaming the kernel without updating wireless?
[03:57] <MeinLeiben> but now I just want to get partying down with the African penguin and it's just not doing it. :(
[03:57] <Gator> but he said 20GB, which is what I was talking about
[03:57] <eontasticness_> hope something works out for you
[03:57] <CrakeHunter> k thanks
[03:57] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: helloooo
[03:57] <dom_harrington> anyone else having trouble with ubuntu on mac?
[03:57] <MeinLeiben> Nemo: I hear ya.
[03:57] <adam_> whats the command line for resetting my repositories?
[03:57] <vox754> MeinLeiben: look here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List for MA111
[03:57] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: does it work if you run # cat /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945  | grep quiet /sbin/ipw3945d-$(uname -r) --quiet
[03:57] <MeinLeiben> Nemo: So what is your story?
[03:57] <streather> ok thats me happy :D
[03:57] <nemo_home> eep
[03:57] <GaiaX11> Matux: how big is you win HD?
[03:57] <nemo_home> wrong paste
[03:57] <Matux> 80 GB
[03:58] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: ipw3945d-2.6.17-10-generic  <- if you run that
[03:58] <Gator> guys, on my liveCD when I checked for defects, it said 9 checksums failed
[03:58] <Gator> is that bad? >_>
[03:58] <Matux> but , i still don't trust dual booting
[03:58] <vox754> Gator: YES! get a new CD!
[03:58] <dom_harrington> Can anyone help me with ubuntu on mac please?
[03:58] <MeinLeiben> Hmm...
[03:58] <eontasticness_> damn its taking ever to rebuild raid6
[03:58] <Gator> vox, I figured xD
[03:58] <eontasticness_> blah
[03:58] <MeinLeiben> Nemo: Lemme run upstairs and figure it out.
[03:59] <Matux> What i meant was , that i could use a 20 GB disk to install only UBUNTU ,
[03:59] <MeinLeiben> Haha, I'm using this Windows comp downstairs while trying to fix my main one.
[03:59] <GaiaX11> Matux: so, format the hd throw away win and put only ubuntu there. I did it some time ago and I am very happy :-)
[03:59] <BoMEpsilon> BoMEpsilon here again. I put in xorg.conf in the right location, but now it's giving the error "No screens found" when starting up.
[03:59] <vox754> Gator: I've downloaded the DVD without a single checksum error.
[03:59] <streather> ok finally have my gfx card working properly, now i have to reinstall beryl >_<
[04:00] <streather> *smites something*
[04:00] <Gator> vox: I got a new frisbee :D
[04:00] <BoMEpsilon> It's not showing the graphical interface, either.
[04:00] <Matux> Gaiax11, I get you, but , i am not the only one who usses this PC
[04:00] <vox754> BoMEpsilon: you have to set those things up inside the "xorg.conf". Need to boot in rescue mode.
[04:00] <Gator> vox: lol CDs are fun to throw >_>
[04:00] <BoMEpsilon> Set them up?
[04:00] <GaiaX11> Matux: set yourself free from win!
[04:00] <BoMEpsilon> Hm, alright.
[04:00] <Gator> well this sucks
[04:00] <Gator> I'm getting grub error 22
[04:01] <timtrimble> gator:  yeah, they make good frisbees
[04:01] <nemo_home> ok. is there an ubuntu dev channel? 'cause seriously this is both a major breakage and an easily fixed one
[04:01] <GaiaX11> Matux: is the pc in your home, work?
[04:01] <nemo_home> I'd like to find a dev somewhere and see if this can be pushed through properly before I toss in a symlink
[04:01] <vox754> Gator: browse for that error on the net.
[04:01] <CrakeHunter> the frames around my windows disappear with beryl - what can i do ?
[04:01] <Matux> at my home
[04:01] <Gator> just browse for grub error 22?
[04:01] <GaiaX11> Matux: so ...
[04:02] <GaiaX11> Matux: Is it yours?
[04:02] <vox754> Gator: you'll gain knowledge. But you definitely need a new CD.
[04:02] <Gator> so
[04:02] <Matux> that it's the issue , you don't get it, I need Autucad, and visual basic among others
[04:02] <Gator> do I need a windows xp cd to do this?
[04:03] <MeinLeiben> Nemo: You there?
[04:03] <Gator> the only fix I can find for grub error 22 is booting off of a windows xp cd
[04:03] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: yeah
[04:03] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: no one is answering me re: dev stuff here
[04:03] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: so just did a: ln -s /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.17-10-generic /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.17-10-386
[04:03] <GaiaX11> Matux: for autocad there is qcad in ubuntu
[04:04] <MeinLeiben> Nemo: Unfortunately I'm pretty in the dark...
[04:04] <vox754> Gator: you bet... don't tell me... you don't have an XP CD? !?
[04:04] <Matux> qcad?
[04:04] <MeinLeiben> Oh, and that command does nothing for me.
[04:04] <MeinLeiben> Since I don't have that kind of wireless adapter.
[04:04] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: um. you are running it as root right?
[04:04] <nemo_home> ah. pity
[04:04] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: think it could be related though, is my point
[04:04] <Matux> weel good by, I'm going to try to fix my HD
[04:04] <GaiaX11> Matux: for visual basic and others there must be something as well.
[04:04] <Matux> Wish me luck
[04:04] <Gator> I don't have a an XP cd >_>
[04:04] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: if they are fans of naming their tools by version number
[04:04] <MeinLeiben> I'm using a Netgear MA111 USB adapter...
[04:04] <Matux> Kilix
[04:04] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: and they switched from -generic to -386 across the boare
[04:04] <nemo_home> board
[04:05] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: wondering what other things they might have broken
[04:05] <Arplos> I'm on ubuntu Live now. I found those commands:
[04:05] <Arplos> sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[04:05] <Arplos> sudo chroot /mnt
[04:05] <Arplos>  sudo grub-install /dev/hd0
[04:05] <MeinLeiben> Ah I see... Well I have just gotten ubuntu, so I wouldn't know much about what has or hasn't been broken!
[04:05] <vox754> MeinLeiben: it is a USB? Check here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[04:05] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: oh. geez. I'm sorry
[04:05] <Arplos> The third command returns:
[04:05] <Mr680x0> is there anyone who can help fix my problem?
[04:05] <Arplos> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[04:05] <Gator> vox, is there any way to do this without a windows install cd? >_>
[04:05] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: you should have been listening to vox754 earlier comment anyway.
[04:06] <Mr680x0> if not, I'm going to replace Ubuntu with whatever I can find
[04:06] <nemo_home> MeinLeiben: I thought yours had suddenly broken like mine
[04:06] <Mr680x0> when I'm in say FireFox, parts of the screen randomly appear in other spots
[04:06] <rogueChsbrgr> Mr680x0: what was it again?
[04:06] <MeinLeiben> What did vox say?
[04:06] <GaiaX11> You know guys. Many people who use linux are not brave enough to set them free from Windows yet. What a pitty!
[04:07] <Mr680x0> I wouldn't be using Linux if Windows ME hadn't gone and died on me
[04:07] <rogueChsbrgr> Windows free for 3 years now
[04:07] <Mr680x0> rogueChsbrgr: I just said what my problem was just before your previous post
[04:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Mr680x0, well at least you're rid of windows   : )
[04:07] <Mr680x0> I use Windows on my main comp
[04:07] <vox754> Arplos: seems odd. Instead of "sudo grub-install" try going into the grub console by typing "grub" then "setup (hd0)"
[04:08] <Mr680x0> and I collect Macs :P
[04:08] <Boohbah> linux user for ten years now... also a windows user... and i am free!
[04:08] <Arplos> Hey! Please, i need to return to my previous installation!
[04:08] <dom_harrington> anyone else having trouble with ubuntu on mac?
[04:08] <Mr680x0> well, anyone know about my problem?
[04:08] <P235> can someone tell me the paste bin address?
[04:08] <Mr680x0> it makes internet unusable under Ubuntu
[04:08] <vox754> GaiaX11: yep. It is step by step that you get confidence.
[04:09] <Gator> vox, is there any way to do this without a windows install cd? >_>
[04:09] <GaiaX11> Boohbah: You are not free. You only think you are!
[04:09] <yellow> hey guys where does openssh log its files ?
[04:09] <shorty114> P235, pastebin.ca
[04:09] <BoMEpsilon> Just remembered: I'm running off of the desktop CD right now; is there any way to edit it off of that?
[04:09] <Mr680x0> so no one knows about my problem?  I'll have to find a different free OS
[04:09] <Gator> crap
[04:10] <GaiaX11> vox754: You seems to be free! :-)
[04:10] <Gator> vox is not free >_>
[04:10] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: I have no idea what your problem is, but I find it amusing you're trying to somehow make the channel feel threatened by your choice of OS :)
[04:10] <Mr680x0> I'm not trying to make you feel threatened :P
[04:11] <neighborlee> because Ican't get to the right runlevel to install nvidia' own driver I got from webiste..if I try in runlevel1 it says sorry you must be in runlevel 3..2 boots me back to destkop as does 3..what now ? ;)
[04:11] <zyth> Mr680x0, try installing mozilla or something, see if the same issue occurs.
[04:11] <nemo_home> personally I say, go forth and install Vista if you want. no skin off my nose :)
[04:11] <vox754> Gator: I don't think so. The WinXP CD fixes the MBR so Win can boot, but I don't know if something else can do the trick. It has to be Microsoft related.
[04:11] <nemo_home> zyth: what's his problem anyway?
[04:11] <zyth> vox754, freedos disk might work
[04:11] <Mr680x0> but if I can't fix it, I need to find a different OS that's free
[04:11] <nemo_home> zyth: if a firefox one he should be asking on moznet maybe
[04:11] <zyth> nemo_home, from what I saw his Firefox displays stuff in the wrong place
[04:11] <Gator> vox: I think I can use a windows 98 floppy if I have one
[04:11] <zyth> Gator, fdisk /mbr
[04:11] <zyth> :)
[04:11] <Gator> zyrh
[04:11] <Mr680x0> it does it in other apps too
[04:11] <nemo_home> zyth: um. just a page rendering issue on a particular site?
[04:11] <Gator> zyth, I can't really do that
[04:11] <Mr680x0> on every site
[04:11] <zyth> Gator, why?
[04:12] <vox754> Gator: I'm not free? what is that supposed to mean? Listen to what others have to say... good luck
[04:12] <zyth> nemo_home, unsure.  He didn't specify?
[04:12] <Gator> because I don't have an installation cd
[04:12] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: ok. does it seem like parts of the screen are overlaid elsewhere?
[04:12] <zyth> Gator, www.bootdisk.com ?
[04:12] <Mr680x0> yes, nemo_home
[04:12] <Gator> the only cd burner I have is on that computer
[04:12] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: I'm not an ubuntu expert, but I did manage to corrupt the video buffer on my old laptop when trying to force it to do things the video card wasn't capable of doing
[04:12] <Gator> the one that's borked
[04:12] <vox754> GaiaX11: I'm free. I'm not in jail. But I might use Windows for Autocad.
[04:12] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: I ended up with results like that
[04:12] <TehUni> i've currently got 2 hard drives setup in raid 1 (software, md). i'm reinstalling linux. what do i need to do to be sure nothing happens to the data? then how do i reconstruct the array and have mdadm recognize it as one that was previously created?
[04:12] <Mr680x0> ah
[04:12] <zyth> Gator, usb key, floppy disk?
[04:13] <Gator> uhhh
[04:13] <Mr680x0> right now I'm running FF not maximized, and I'm not having any problems
[04:13] <Gator> I might have a floppy
[04:13] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: does the problem occur when approaching the edge of the screen?
[04:13] <Mr680x0> and the overlay problem just came back
[04:13] <Gator> would a SD card work? XD
[04:13] <vox754> Gator: You can move the CD burner, that is not a problem. Unplug, plug back.
[04:13] <zyth> Gator, probably not, but I can't speak for your BIOS
[04:13] <zyth> lol
[04:13] <Gator> hm
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> very unlikely to boot from sd
[04:14] <GaiaX11> vox754: Qcad them.
[04:14] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: or is it just artifacts, bits of things drawn that are just sitting there instead of getting cleaned up?
[04:14] <Gator> I have a floppy :O
[04:14] <Mr680x0> not artifacts
[04:14] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: trying to figure out if it is a video issue, or an X one
[04:14] <Mr680x0> big blocks
[04:14] <Mr680x0> moved about randomly
[04:14] <Gator> zyth, what do I do with this floppy?
[04:15] <zyth> Gator, then grab a bootdisk from bootdisk.com and write the image to the disk
[04:15] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: can you dump for me your xorg.conf and lspci -v ?
[04:15] <Gator> I'll try
[04:15] <zyth> dd if=imagefile of=/dev/fd0
[04:15] <Mr680x0> uh
[04:15] <jn> what package is curses.h and panel.h a part of?
[04:15] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: also give me your xorg log file
[04:15] <Arplos> ***** sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()   What this means?
[04:15] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: throw them all on some site somewhere
[04:15] <Mr680x0> I'm a n00b when it comes to linux
[04:15] <Mr680x0> I have no clue what those are
[04:16] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: as root, lspci -vvv > lspci.txt
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> Mr680x0, the log files for Linux are stored in /var/log/
[04:16] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: then, add that + /etc/X11/xorg.conf to some site
[04:16] <unop> jn,  libncursesw5-dev libncurses5-dev
[04:16] <Gator> zyth, is it a .exe file?
[04:16] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: and nomasteryoda is telling you where the X log is
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:16] <zyth> Gator, I doubt it? Unsure.
[04:16] <zyth> Gator, you in Linux ?
[04:16] <Gator> the file I got from bootdisk was a .exe, and no
[04:17] <CoRnJuLiOx> does hitting the 'reload' button in synaptic add new packages that may have been added to the repositories?
[04:17] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: dmesg > dmesg.txt would help too.  might be info on what got screwed up with your vid card there
[04:17] <GaiaX11> vox754: Qcad then
[04:17] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: also, give your machine model. there may be model specific info.
[04:17] <Mr680x0> it's a Dell Latitude C800
[04:17] <jn> unop: tym
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> Mr680x0, you can post it say on pastebin
[04:17] <Mr680x0> with an ATi Mobility M4 graphics card
[04:17] <vox754> GaiaX11: I need to learn new stuff. Thanks.
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> and link us up when posted
[04:17] <zyth> Gator, then run the exe
[04:17] <unop> Arplos, it usually means /etc/hosts doesnt have an entry for your own computer -- in other words -- ping ubuntu - probably fails
[04:17] <Gator> ohh, zyth, the .exe writes the floppy
[04:18] <Gator> crap, the disk is full and write protected >_>
[04:18] <zyth> Mr680x0, are you using the vesa driver? it seems to not work well with my ati card, I have to set the driver in xorg.conf to '"radeon"
[04:18] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: I'm betting it is something silly like wrong vid memory size or something though. could be a bad driver though. I imagine downgrading to generic VGA would solve, but that's inelegant
[04:18] <vox754> Gator: try running "sudo <file.exe>"
[04:18] <billybob> !kernel
[04:18] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:18] <Mr680x0> Linux is a bit complex for me, are there any free OS's that are easier to deal with?
[04:18] <zyth> Mr680x0, FreeDOS?
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> Gator dd does not care... just put tape over the hole if punched out..
[04:18] <zyth> lol
[04:19] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: Windows 95?
[04:19] <BoMEpsilon> Is there any way to browse an Ubuntu partition's contents from the desktop CD?
[04:19] <Mr680x0> I'm not going to 95, too old
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> nemo_home, its still not free...
[04:19] <zyth> Mr680x0, you could try freespire.
[04:19] <Mr680x0> although I do have install floppies for 95
[04:19] <zyth> its more...desktop oriented.
[04:19] <vox754> Mr680x0: there are different versions of Linux. I've heard SimpleMEPIS is easier. No Command Line, all GUI.
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> SimplyMepis is using Ubuntu
[04:20] <Gator> okay zyth, I think it's working
[04:20] <zyth> Gator, yay
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> just has some stuff like nvidia and ati "partially" working from install
[04:20] <barbarella2> Mr680x0:you right 95 is to old
[04:20] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=1872
[04:20] <vox754> nomasteryoda: Ah, yes. But I think that with less Command Line. Care to elaborate?
[04:20] <nemo_home> nomasteryoda: might as well be these days. win95 CDs are a dime a dozen :)
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:20] <Gator> uhh, the floppy can't be acceded when it's empty
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> i break the cds for win9x
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> when i find them
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> they are only for making great botnet zombies
[04:21] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: that was off of linux on laptops. is old comments, from FC2 (!) but they seem to suggest using 1600x1200 as a resolution
[04:21] <Gator> arghh
[04:21] <pbureau> hehe I still have Beos and Os2warp 2 somewhere  in this office...lol
[04:21] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: I requested all that debug stuff to figure out the problem, but probably adjusting the resolution or changing the driver would indeed solve
[04:21] <Mr680x0> I only use 1600x1200
[04:22] <Arplos> How can i re-GRUB a HD?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> Gator, eject the floppy and reinsert...
[04:22] <GaiaX11> Mr680x0: Linux is easy. You only need some time to get with it.
[04:22] <Gator> oh
[04:22] <BoMEpsilon> Is there any way to browse an Ubuntu partition's contents from the desktop CD?
[04:22] <vox754> Gator: if you don't mind... There is always a way to get a Win XP, if you know what I mean...
[04:22] <zyth> pbureau, OS/2 Warp = Yellowtab Zeta now ;)
[04:22] <Arplos> I have it, i'm seeing the files, but: how can i return GRUB to boot sector?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> GaiaX11, well said... about 2 weeks gets many people going
[04:22] <pbureau> GaiaX11, yeah you actually have to use your brain to use it
[04:22] <facugaich> Arplos, grub-install <hd>
[04:22] <Gator> well vox, I can't burn any cds now
[04:22] <Arplos> I have it installed already, in hda2,
[04:23] <Arplos> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hd0
[04:23] <Arplos> /dev/hd0: Not found or not a block device.
[04:23] <Arplos> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /mnt
[04:23] <Arplos> Format of install_device not recognized.
[04:23] <pbureau> vox754, right got myself a copy xp media centre cd sp2 for 45$ once.
[04:23] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: pretty old laptop. I've found with my old P133 dell that finding info on hardware issues is a pain.
[04:23] <GaiaX11> Mr680x0: Linux is for people who wants to learn how really a computer works.
[04:23] <Gator> zyth, the floppy still can't be acceded
[04:23] <nemo_home> no matter what the OS
[04:23] <vox754> Gator: but you can... with friends, relatives, stores,...
[04:23] <Gator> lol
[04:23] <zyth> Gator, define 'can't be acceded'
[04:23] <Gator> uh
[04:24] <Linux_Galore> got a question, i was looking at the kernel packages on the repo for edgy and noticed a kernel version 2.6.17-50 , Im running 2.6.17-11 and that what the package manager has set as the latest,  what is 2.6.17-50 ?
[04:24] <Gator> the error message says it can't be acceded,,,
[04:24] <Mr680x0> I just want an OS on this that can browse the internet with the PCMCIA wireless card
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Arplos,  grub 'calls' drives a little differently then the normal /dev/  convention. It proberly wants a name like /dev/hda2 or so forth. hda2 = hd0,1 in grub speak
[04:24] <pbureau> Mr680x0, linux can do that...
[04:24] <zyth> linux, freebsd.
[04:24] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: http://zwering.adsl.utwente.nl/index.php?menuID=5  this one is for an older dell, but seems to match your hardware better than the C810 - checking for hints
[04:24] <pbureau> Mr680x0, get slackware for PII and lower.... charm to make it work
[04:25] <Mr680x0> I have a 1GHz PIII
[04:25] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: it looks like you should listen to zyth  and try radeon driver in your config
[04:25] <GaiaX11> Mr680x0: Mr680x0 linux does.
[04:25] <vox754> pbureau: you can give me a copy of your Win XP CD...
[04:25] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: the other dude had same video card and said radeon driver worked nicely
[04:25] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: in his dell latitude
[04:25] <zyth> Mr680x0, in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf change the video device to "radeon"
[04:25] <Arplos> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda2
[04:25] <Arplos> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:25] <pbureau> vox754, nope I bought a clean copy... I keep it :) runs well on my dual core P4 4ghz 2 gb gaming laptop  :)
[04:25] <BoMEpsilon> Please...Is there any way to browse an Ubuntu partition's contents from the desktop CD?
[04:25] <nemo_home> Mr680x0: keep in mind a lot of guessing could have been saved if you had just provided the requested text files :)
[04:26] <nemo_home> video problems are a pain to guess at
[04:26] <Arplos> To browse a partition from the Live CD?
[04:26] <Arplos> Yep.
[04:26] <Gator> omg rofl
[04:26] <arrenlex> Can anyone recommend a good, light, functional desktop I could install?
[04:26] <duckvenge> Hi all, is there anyway I can install Ubuntu without the need of a CD ROM or DVD?
[04:26] <nemo_home> arrenlex: XFCE4!
[04:26] <H4T> hey, I could really use some help (installing Ubuntu), does anyone want to help me out?
[04:26] <Gator> zyth, it couldn't access it because I was viewing it in windows explorer
[04:26] <BoMEpsilon> Arplos: How? I have no idea. :P
[04:26] <nemo_home> arrenlex: I use that on my old P133 with 96MiB of ram
[04:26] <arrenlex> nemo_home: What are the benefits of XFCE with respect to things like enlightenment?
[04:26] <Arplos> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda# /mnt
[04:26] <Arplos> Where # is the number of partition.
[04:26] <zyth> Gator, lol ok
[04:26] <nemo_home> arrenlex: What I like is it uses GTK2 for rendering
[04:27] <nemo_home> arrenlex: on my old machine I simply only installed GTK2 apps
[04:27] <Arplos> Then the contents are in /mnt.
[04:27] <nemo_home> arrenlex: that cut down on the libs I needed to load in my tiny amount of ram
[04:27] <zyth> duckdown, yeah, you can basically install it like you would the initial parts of gentoo linux
[04:27] <BoMEpsilon> Arplos: Just did it.
[04:27] <nemo_home> arrenlex: for example, I used audacious as my music player
[04:27] <BoMEpsilon> It's loading.
[04:27] <Mr680x0> so do I replace every spot that it says "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M4 AGP" with "Radeon"
[04:27] <Arplos> So...
[04:27] <BoMEpsilon> Arplos: It just finished.
[04:28] <Arplos> How can i return GRUB to boot?
[04:28] <BoMEpsilon> Where to from here?
[04:28] <Gator> So, about how much less RAM does Ubuntu use than Windows XP?
[04:28] <arrenlex> Mr680x0: Sorry to interject, but that doesn't sound at all right. That's an identifier. What are you trying to do?
[04:28] <nemo_home> arrenlex: worked pretty well, with X running, and relatively little swap used, I used only about 35MiB with XFCE4 running
[04:28] <nemo_home> arrenlex: switch his driver in xorg.conf
[04:28] <nemo_home> arrenlex: he just needs to change the driver line
[04:28] <zyth> Mr680x0, nononono
[04:28] <GaiaX11> duckvenge: by pen driver and networking.
[04:28] <zyth> well
[04:28] <zyth> he go boom.
[04:28] <barbarella2> Gator:you must be in your swap now
[04:28] <H4T> I booted to my ubuntu disk and got as far as the paritioning section. I didn't know which was win and which was my old SUSE partition, so I cancelled install and rebooted...now when I try to boot up to the disk again it gives me drive errors! Anyone?
[04:28] <nemo_home> arrenlex: anyway, it worked well for me
[04:29] <pavs> whats the best personal wiki (CMS) out there?
[04:29] <arrenlex> nemo_home: I'll try xfce, then. Thanks.
[04:29] <duckvenge> GaiaX11: I have a HD running Dapper.. and I have the HD I want to install on ... is that enough?
[04:29] <nemo_home> arrenlex: I think there's even an XFCE4 ubuntu. I don't know if they stuck to a single gui toolkit
[04:29] <duckvenge> I mean it's a slave right now.. but I will make it bootable
[04:29] <pavs> xubuntu
[04:29] <nemo_home> arrenlex: personally, I went gentoo, with -Os set - my theory was I cared more about the size of libraries in memory than saving on cycles :)
[04:30] <arrenlex> nemo_home: Life is too short to run gentoo.
[04:30] <timtrimble> nemo_home, arrenlex:  it's xubuntu... or if it's not, you can just apt-get it most likely.  =)
[04:30] <Gator> god dang, the floppy has an I/O error
[04:30] <vox754> !grub > Arplos
[04:30] <nemo_home> arrenlex: heh. have 5 gentoo machines personally :) but hey, to each his own
[04:31] <nemo_home> arrenlex: I must say I'm spending far too much time poking at obscure issues with my mom's ubuntu system too. like this latest ubuntu breaking wireless with recent kernel rename.
[04:31] <nemo_home> arrenlex: seems all distros are prone to stupid updates
[04:31] <BoMEpsilon> Someone here just told me to do this command: sudo mount /dev/hda# /mnt. Of course, I replaced the #, but where do I go from there? I want to find a way to browse its contents.
[04:31] <nemo_home> timtrimble: yeah, I think there's an actual distro CD for it
[04:31] <nemo_home> timtrimble: seem to remember seeing it. like kubuntu
[04:31] <Arplos> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ !grub
[04:31] <Arplos> grub-install /dev/hd0
[04:31] <Arplos> /dev/hd0: Not found or not a block device.
[04:31] <BoMEpsilon> Whoops, nevermind.
[04:32] <pavs> wireless broken in my laptop too after the update, i just login from the previous kernel
[04:32] <arrenlex> Arplos: Do you mean hda?
[04:32] <nemo_home> heh
[04:32] <Arplos> hda2?
[04:32] <duckvenge> Ok I know what to do I think. I will have to copy a downloaded ISO to a ext2/3 partiion on the target HD.
[04:32] <nemo_home>  /dev/sda! :)
[04:32] <duckvenge> make it bootable, then yahoo...
[04:33] <arrenlex> Arplos: Depends where you want to install grub. /dev/hda == drive root. /dev/hda2 == partition.
[04:33] <H4T> hm, can anyone help me, please?
[04:33] <pbureau> !ask | H4T
[04:33] <ubotu> H4T: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:33] <H4T> lol, I did, I'll backtrack and post it again:
[04:33] <H4T> I booted to my ubuntu disk and got as far as the paritioning section. I didn't know which was win and which was my old SUSE partition, so I cancelled install and rebooted...now when I try to boot up to the disk again it gives me drive errors!
[04:34] <H4T> !ask
[04:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <H4T> curious, lol
[04:34] <facugaich> Arplos, did you follow ubotu's links?
[04:34] <Arplos> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[04:34] <Arplos> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[04:34] <GaiaX11> duckvenge: I think so. But, now I have to leave because it is too late here and I have to sleep now.  Someone will walk with you from now I am sure. http://pendrivelinux.com/      http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1229101&postcount=158
[04:34] <H4T> its a bot >_< gee
[04:34] <Arplos> Let's see...
[04:34] <nemo_home> H4T: there is a partition rescue tool if you !@#$ed up your partition table
[04:34] <duckvenge> thanks GaiaX11
[04:34] <setuid> Is it possible to have a mysql database on some other partition/drive/array, instead of the normal /var/lib/mysql/* location? I have an enormous db I need to load up, and there isn't enough space on /var to handle it. I'd like to keep the rest of my dbs on /var, but not this one.
[04:34] <vox754> H4T: turn off the CPU, let it cool off, unplug the devices and connect again, clear the BIOS by placing the jumpers on the motherboard.
[04:35] <seravitae> Hi i have two network cards, onboard (doesnt work) and pci... I changed kernels and the onboard one appeared, but didnt work, and now the PCI one wont work. even when i change back to the other kernel.
[04:35] <nemo_home> vox754: seriously? :)
[04:35] <arrenlex> Arplos: Are you sure you don't have scsi discs?
[04:35] <eontasticness_> that is probably the most retarded answer i've ever read
[04:35] <unop> setuid,  yep, just move the directory across to your new volume(s) and leave a symlink behind
[04:35] <eontasticness_> heh
[04:35] <nemo_home> vox754: you're not being a BOFH are you? :)
[04:35] <H4T> yeah, paritions are fine, I'll try that vox, thanks
[04:35] <frogzoo> setuid: of course it's possible - there'll be a config somewhere
[04:35] <setuid> unop, ew... no symlinks allowed
[04:35] <eontasticness_> and ive been on freenode/linpeople since 95 or so
[04:35] <a514> anyone in canada? i am!!
[04:36] <vox754> nemo_home_ what is that BOFH, I don't speak chinese...
[04:36] <Arplos> Which links, sorry?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> a514, brrrrr
[04:36] <nemo_home> vox754: JFGI :-p
[04:36] <setuid> frogzoo, oh?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> glad I'm in Georgia... US
[04:36] <StriderZ> what is the main package I need to install to have a basic gnome desktop?
[04:36] <sir_dejavu> 
[04:37] <setuid> found it
[04:37] <unop> setuid, no symlinks allowed -- is that because mysql doesnt like them or because you dont like them?
[04:37] <setuid> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/create-table.html
[04:37] <furryballs> a514: Yea, I am. It's nice and cold out. If my house gets too hot, I just open a window. n_n
[04:37] <vox754> nemo_home, I'm serious. Simple questions, simple problems, simple solutions.
[04:37] <setuid> unop, Its because they physically will not work across arrays and filesystems like that.
[04:37] <setuid> But I found the proper solution
[04:37] <setuid> Thanks
[04:37] <nemo_home> vox754: ok. I'd never heard of that before, is all
[04:37] <nemo_home> vox754: I can't even imagine the causal relationship, so that's why I was agog
[04:38] <cafuego_> Uh, symlinks work fine across filesystems. hardlinks don't.
[04:38] <unop> eh, how does a mysql table do it for him, ?
[04:38] <zero88> where would i get themes for the desktop without having to install compiz or beryl???
[04:39] <Gator> All hail Zyth!
[04:39] <nemo_home> zero88: gnome-look.org ?
[04:39] <blahblahblah> test
[04:39] <vox754> nemo_home: answer privately #vocx This is my only free day. I'm giving it all. In 24 hours, you won't see my shadow.
[04:39] <nemo_home> zero88: ubuntu has a ton of gnome theme packages too
[04:39] <jonw> hi, anyone able to help me ? i'm running multiple x sessions (f7 & f9) but the keyboard only works in the f7 session
[04:39] <Gator> Vox: I did it with a windows 98 floppy :D
[04:39] <frogzoo> blahblahblah:
[04:40] <zero88> nemo_home yes ive tried there,but i was sure what catagory to look under
[04:40] <blahblahblah> danke
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> Gator, excellent
[04:40] <zero88> nemo_home the default ones under theme?
[04:40] <vox754> Gator: write a mini HOWTO and keep it with you.
[04:40] <NewbieToUbuntu> anyone extremely knowledgeable of ubuntu and doesn't mind helping me out for 5minutes?
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> i prefer aol floppies for that... when they were available
[04:40] <nemo_home> zero88: you want metacity
[04:40] <zero88> nemo_home ok kool, i wasnt sure what one to use
[04:40] <nemo_home> zero88: but yeah, look in that synaptic tool thingy, ubuntu has a bunch already
[04:40] <Gator> a mini HOWTO for what?
[04:41] <frogzoo> !helpme | NewbieToUbuntu
[04:41] <ubotu> NewbieToUbuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:41] <NewbieToUbuntu> lmao
[04:41] <NewbieToUbuntu> fair comment ^^
[04:41] <nemo_home> zero88: I'm kind of a ubuntu noob myself though.
[04:41] <zero88> nemo_home oh ok in synaptic
[04:41] <eontasticness_> ubotu: stfu
[04:41] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:41] <blahblahblah> NewbieToUbuntu, there is no one here extremely knowledgeable
[04:41] <nemo_home> eontasticness_: oh really.
[04:41] <zero88> nemo_home thats ok, if you have the knowledge i need it helps :)
[04:41] <jonw> or for that matter whats the best way of setting up multiple x sesssions /
[04:41] <eontasticness_> heh
[04:41] <eontasticness_> stupid bot
[04:41] <Gator> you can't say noob? >_>
[04:41] <blahblahblah> those are out there usually charging $150/hr
[04:41] <blahblahblah> but ask away
[04:42] <proqesi> blahblahblah: don't be so sure, they drop in all the time
[04:42] <NewbieToUbuntu> I run a x-shellscript install for firefox in 'terminal' pops up with a terminal window but disappears instantly
[04:42] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: ive been using linux since 95, i know the kernel and OS inside and out
[04:42] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: of course i dont really like helping people too often
[04:42] <blahblahblah> lol, kernel hackers in here?
[04:42] <eontasticness_> unless i am bored
[04:42] <blahblahblah> i serverly doubt that
[04:42] <M0nty> .
[04:42] <vox754> Gator: just write what you did, in case someone has a similar problem like you, you are able to remember what you did and help others.
[04:43] <eontasticness_> ive been using linux since slackware's first build
[04:43] <Gator> oh
[04:43] <frogzoo> blahblahblah: just ask the question
[04:43] <proqesi> sabdfl drops in here too
[04:43] <blahblahblah> why? i don't have a question
[04:43] <Gator> I actually got it from someone else's howto >_>
[04:43] <Xenocide> i was wondering if someone could help me when i installed beryl and i have the beryl manager enabled, the tops of the windows do not display at all, i had this problem before but i can't remember how it's fixed
[04:43] <eontasticness_> i'm also knowledgeable in just about every other OS
[04:43] <blahblahblah> Gator, what was your problem again?
[04:43] <arrenlex> eontasticness_: And modest too! :)
[04:43] <eontasticness_> minus QNX and some other obscure oses
[04:43] <jonw> eontasticness_: help me then :D
[04:43] <DBO> Xenguy, nohup emerald --replace &
[04:44] <Zyrule> just one question,  in ubuntu when your installing,  what is the command syntax to disable hardware probing?
[04:44] <blahblahblah> eontasticness_, lol, sure sure ... i believe you
[04:44] <blahblahblah> eontasticness_, it's nice of you to share your knowledge with us tho
[04:44] <eontasticness_> arrenlex: i usually don't talk about my skills unless someone like blahblahblah suggests that only n00bs hang out in irc help channels
[04:44] <blahblahblah> i'm buggin ya
[04:44] <Xenocide> DBO,  i tried emerald --replace
[04:44] <eontasticness_> :)
[04:44] <frogzoo> !helpme | blahblahblah
[04:44] <ubotu> blahblahblah: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:44] <eontasticness_> i am actually just sitting on my mac waiting for my fileserver to finish rebuilding an array that took a shit
[04:45] <eontasticness_> so i thought i'd irc
[04:45] <Gator> I just love how fast an efficient floppies are
[04:45] <blahblahblah> frogzoo, what the hell is wrong with you?
[04:45] <blahblahblah> listen simpleton, i don't have a question, now go away
[04:45] <blahblahblah> damnation
[04:45] <pbureau> eontasticness_, eve played on CPM?
[04:45] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: damn! whats with all your freakin questions?
[04:45] <eontasticness_> lol
[04:45] <Zyrule> Does anyone know how to disable hardware probing in boot options,  is it "noprobe" ??
[04:45] <blahblahblah> doh!
[04:45] <DBO> keep it on topic please folks
[04:46] <blahblahblah> or maybe that should be doh?
[04:46] <frogzoo>  /ignore blahblahblah
[04:46] <eontasticness_> i have some REALLY early memorys of CPM pbureau
[04:46] <blahblahblah> congratulations, you can type
[04:46] <blahblahblah> *rools eyes*
[04:46] <ubuntu_> sup
[04:47] <blahblahblah> Zyrule, i don't know that offhand sorry
[04:47] <pbureau> Zyrule, what are tryingto acheive, maybe easier just to blacklist the driver not loaded.
[04:47] <blahblahblah> anyone else have any questions?
[04:47] <ubuntu_> yay for linux
[04:47] <eontasticness_> pbureau: my dad used to have it on an ancient machine back when i was 4 or 5
[04:47] <ubuntu_> wow lagzorz
[04:47] <Gator> I remember leading the project on the first Unix based system...
[04:47] <ubuntu_> 1900 ms w00 w00
[04:47] <ubuntu_>  ne of u linux guys know how too hackl?
[04:47] <ubuntu_> SLDOQL!L??
[04:47] <pbureau> eontasticness_, you just aged me a little there,..lol
[04:48] <Zyrule> well the system i'm working on,  its trying to probe PCI for hardware,  but the motherboard only has ISA,  no PCI...
[04:48] <Zyrule> lol,  i mean its not a big deal,  i was just wanting to see what would happen if i could diable hardware probing...
[04:48] <larson9999> you can still use cpm.  don't have to talk about it in past tense.
[04:48] <eontasticness_> Zyrule: while it has only ISA SLOTS, it probably has a pci bus somewhere on the board
[04:48] <eontasticness_> a lot of the cyrix socket 7 boards did, even with just isa
[04:49] <eontasticness_> larson9999: really?  the last i had heard of it was in middle school
[04:49] <Zyrule> oh... i see...
[04:49] <eontasticness_> pbureau: yeah I am 25 years old
[04:49] <Zyrule> well puppy is almost done downloading anyways
[04:49] <ublender> ok, hopefulley simple question: how would I add the ability to change to a higher resolution, I added the new setting to xorg.conf, but I cannot select it in gnome preferences
[04:49] <Zyrule> i just hope it doesn't do the same thing...
[04:49] <pbureau> eontasticness_, lol.... lets just state I have more than a decade on you...lol
[04:49] <blahblahblah> ublender, you need proper refresh rates for your monitor
[04:49] <frogzoo> !fixres | Zyrule
[04:49] <ubotu> Zyrule: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:49] <rio> anyone here happen to use SocialText Open?
[04:50] <larson9999> eontasticness_: well, i use it often enough.  of course i have a kaypro and c64 that run it :)  there are emulators too.
[04:50] <blahblahblah> ublender, google up the specific horiz and vert refresh rates for your exact model and make
[04:50] <blahblahblah> then restart x
[04:50] <eontasticness_> larson9999: hahaha ... i threw away anything older than a socket A about 6 months ago
[04:50] <erjing> hello everybody.
[04:50] <eontasticness_> larson9999: the wife made me
[04:50] <ublender> k, thx for the start
[04:50] <eontasticness_> actually i take that back --- i have a g3 imac in the garage still
[04:51] <blahblahblah> eontasticness_, why does the wife have access to the toys? *hmmm* :)
[04:51] <andre> !nvidia9
[04:51] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[04:51] <qid> Is a "theme" just a collection of controls, window borders, and icons, or is there more to it?
[04:51] <larson9999> eontasticness_: i had nearly 100 different systems. down to a dozen or so now
[04:51] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: well the toys had taken over about every room in the house --- old sparc stations, alpha workstations, 486/mmx/pii/p3 machines, junker laptops
[04:51] <blahblahblah> qid, just pretty much that
[04:52] <Zyrule> hmmm weird
[04:52] <blahblahblah> eontasticness_, ehe :) a true junkie
[04:52] <Pelo> qid,  that is pretty much it, some include sounds and wall paper, the occasionnal screensaver
[04:52] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: so now i am down to 16 machines on my lan
[04:52] <blahblahblah> is that just at home?
[04:52] <StriderZ> what is the command to configure X?
[04:52] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: yeah at home --- at work i have about 100 servers
[04:52] <Zyrule> i was reading documents files on ubuntu... and it said cyrix processor uses need to disable the cache of their system while installing,  then enable it after installing
[04:52] <blahblahblah> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:52] <blahblahblah> lol nice
[04:53] <blahblahblah> 16 boxen at home ... what do you use them all for if i may ask?
[04:53] <LilGator> so should I get 6.06 or 6.10?
[04:53] <blahblahblah> i have like 6, gotta find time to set them up as blender render nodes
[04:53] <Tester> what'st he command to force unmountting of a drive?
[04:53] <blahblahblah> LilGator, for work 6.06, for home 6.10
[04:53] <vox754> Zyrule, pardon me if I bother you, but have you tried Knoppix? It is very easy to turn off hardware detection, like "knoppix nopci".
[04:53] <LilGator> whoooo 16 hour iso download
[04:53] <Zyrule> hmm actually no i haven't,  not yet
[04:53] <Pelo> Tester,  sudo unmount ...
[04:53] <xolla> please some can help in pvt?
[04:53] <Zyrule> but,  doesn't knoppix run live?
[04:54] <gansinho> hello gyus, I'm having this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408&page=36 and "a
[04:54] <gansinho> standard system upgrade will automatically perform this as well" did not help me... should I try a dist-upgrade or something?
[04:54] <eontasticness_> fileserver with 2.7TB of storage (currently repairing), two fakemacs, three real macs, a vista test machine, an xp pro machine, a couple bsd machines doing random server tasks, my main linux desktop, my two media centers, my patio computer, my garage computer
[04:54] <Zyrule> can you install from the cd without booting live,  because this only has 80mb of ram,  i dont think its gonna run that well live...
[04:54] <gansinho> sorry for the flood
[04:54] <LilGator> how do I torrent the LiveCD file?
[04:54] <Tester> pelo, it says the device is busy
[04:54] <blahblahblah> gansinho, are you having problems dist upgrading from one to the next release?
[04:54] <eontasticness_> that excludes laptops
[04:54] <Pelo> Tester,  find what is using it and xkill it
[04:54] <datakid23> hola all, in synaptic my tomboy package is listed as installed, but it's not on any of my menus. I tried to reinstall and reboot, but I still don't see it. ??
[04:54] <Tester> pelo, i need it to keep running, i just need to replace a cd
[04:54] <gansinho> blahblahblah, nope, but I've already tried a ordinary upgrade and didn't fixed the nvidia driver isssue(related to the last upgrade)
[04:55] <pbureau> datakid23, is tomboy a giu interface ?
[04:55] <blahblahblah> ah okay
[04:55] <pbureau> s/giu/gui
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> Tester, you issue the eject /dev/cdrom
[04:55] <datakid23> yes - it's in gnome - a notepad of sorts
[04:55] <LilGator> ...
[04:55] <andre> hey folks
[04:55] <StriderZ> Thanks! And what about to configure my default desktop? I just get the blank X when I startx
[04:55] <vox754> Zyrule: you are probably correct. But you should at least see the specifications on their page.
[04:55] <Pelo> Tester,  what is the drive being used for ?
[04:55] <LilGator> How do I torrent the 6.10 LiveCD iso?
[04:55] <eontasticness_> i like my fakemacs
[04:55] <andre> will the nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings allow me to do a) beryl and b) dual monitors?
[04:55] <datakid23> I tried running from the cli, but it just seems to hang? fully updated edgy instlal, btw
[04:55] <variant> andre: yes
[04:55] <Tester> nomasteryoda, it says the device is busy, eject failed
[04:56] <Pelo> LilGator,  search for it on www.torrentz.com
[04:56] <arrenlex> Could someone send me a default xorg.conf? It doesn't matter what card. I need the tablet portion; I deleted it from mine 'cause I never thought I'd need it.
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> Tester, cd /
[04:56] <larson9999> blahblahblah: well, you have the dedicated hercules+mvs box, the wife's, son's, file server, mythtv box, supercpu box, g3, the guest computer, lappy, the p1 with the dual 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 floppy.  those are the required. add in optionals as you like.
[04:56] <blahblahblah> eontasticness_, nifty ... lots of storage there
[04:56] <Tester> pelo, im installing a game via Wine
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> then try again
[04:56] <variant> Tester: use fuser to find file is holding open the drive
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:56] <unop> arrenlex,  wouldnt creating one anew work?
[04:56] <variant> !fuser | Tester
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah:  yeah --- i have a bunch of 500gb sata drives in a raid6
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> Tester, you need to find out if wine is still running... accessin it
[04:56] <blahblahblah> larson9999, *nod*
[04:56] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: one of them fails and linux freaks out --- pissed me off
[04:56] <andre> variant:  how do I get dual monitors working?
[04:56] <frogzoo> !fixres | arrenlex
[04:56] <eontasticness_> taking FOREVER to fix errors and rebuild
[04:56] <ubotu> arrenlex: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
 yes, it's  a gnome note taking program
[04:56] <andre> !dualhead
[04:56] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:57] <Pelo> Tester,  then you would need to kill wine , it is the process locking up your cd drive,  but that would also kill your install so my guess is you are screwed
[04:57] <snowsnake> hi all, someone that knows what i can do about my network card? I can use gaim and use google. but i can't browse other websites or use synaptics to update.
[04:57] <variant> andre: no idea with nvidia drivers.. i know for a fact that they support it though
[04:57] <Tester> nomasteryoda, it is, and thats normal... but apperantly it doesnt like being ejected
[04:57] <andre> !Xinerama
[04:57] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:57] <blahblahblah> larson9999, neat to see you using myth ... does the rest of the family, you set that up as a media center?
[04:57] <pbureau> datakid23, open a terminal type sudo <appname> see if it startc
[04:57] <pbureau> sttarts
[04:57] <unop> arrenlex,  sudo Xorf -configure  creates a /root/xorg.cong -- Sudo X -configure /root/xorg.conf tests it out
[04:57] <eontasticness_> snowsnake: sounds like a DNS problem not a computer problem
[04:57] <unop> Xorg*
[04:57] <larson9999> i think my system is aging.  saw a power supply at the goodwill today and it had some connections i haven't seen.  the were kinda small and black.  what do those go to?
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> Tester, if wine is using it for the program, then you can't eject to insert another cd....
[04:57] <larson9999> blahblahblah: yeah
[04:57] <Tester> pelo, there HAS to be a way to force it out (outside physical means that is)...
[04:58] <blahblahblah> larson9999, do 'normal' people like myth?
 I have, and it hangs on the same line as a non sudo run
[04:58] <datakid23> "Binding key '<Alt>F11' for '/apps/tomboy/global_keybindings/open_start_here'
[04:58] <datakid23> "
[04:58] <blahblahblah> i've only used it here, not with regular folks yet
[04:58] <pbureau> datakid23, then I dunno, probably aq bad compile or package.
[04:58] <eontasticness_> larson9999: probably SATA power connectors
[04:58] <Pelo> Tester,  try sticking a paper clip in that little hole underneath the tray to unlock the tray from the drive
[04:59] <larson9999> blahblahblah: we're an almost linux except for vintage systems family.  still use a bit of windows on my wife's laptop.
[04:59] <blahblahblah> larson9999, totally sweet
[04:59] <variant> Tester: there is, use the fuser comamnd to see what program is holding it open
[04:59] <eontasticness_> my alternate OS boxes outweigh my windows machines here by far
[04:59] <duckvenge> anyknow how I can fool around with the grub in  graphical way?
[04:59] <Tester> pelo, i figure that would work, but id like to encouter this the right way =/ im pretty sure i had this problem before and i fixed it. oh well, no biggie
[04:59] <Tester> variant, terminal is
[04:59] <eontasticness_> 2 windows desktops and one laptop (the wife)
 cheers for your help
[04:59] <unop> Tester,  also -- the eject command could work
[04:59] <larson9999> blahblahblah: i think that now that mythtv and freevo are easy enough, the other options are cheap enough that it's not as appealing to many.
[04:59] <eontasticness_> the rest are linux/bsd/osx/solaris
[05:00] <unop> Tester,  sudo eject .. or sudo eject /dev/name
[05:00] <Tester> unop, someone has suggested it, it says device is busy and that eject failed
[05:00] <variant> Tester: so close terminal
[05:00] <variant> Tester: close all the terminals currently open
[05:01] <Tester> variant, that would cause the installer to close as well, hence shutting down my game installation, heh
[05:01] <variant> Tester: then press the eject button
[05:01] <eontasticness_> unop:  umount /dev/cdrom
[05:01] <eontasticness_> ?
[05:01] <variant> Tester: so the game installer is holding the drive
[05:01] <unop> Tester, errm, you want to eject the tray and still keep the install going? thats funny
[05:01] <variant> Tester: and forceing it would proabbly cause the installer to stop
[05:01] <Tester> unop, how do you think people install programs that use multiple cd roms?
[05:01] <variant> Tester: man mount will tell you how to do it
[05:02] <larson9999> eontasticness_: actually, free is the focus here.  use freedos, menuetos, haiku, and will likely use reactos when it goes beta.
[05:02] <Arplos> Ok, It worked!!!
[05:02] <variant> Tester: ah lol, this old chestnut.. its unreal tournament or something?
[05:02] <Arplos> But now i have only one concernment...
[05:02] <unop> Tester, well, how can you be sure that the installer has finished its business with this particular CD-rom?
[05:02] <Tester> variant, world of warcraft
[05:02] <blahblahblah> larson9999, isn't reactos the one that tries for binary compatability with ms?
[05:02] <vox754> Arplos: what, you repaired your GRUB?
[05:02] <eontasticness_> larson9999: i havent really found a practical use for haiku or reactos
[05:02] <Tester> unop, it says please insert cd 2. haha
[05:03] <larson9999> blahblahblah: yeah
[05:03] <Arplos> Only one problem...
[05:03] <variant> Tester: hold pleas
[05:03] <variant> e
[05:03] <pbureau> Tester,  use a paper clicp and slide into the tiny hole on the drive pop the cdrom out
[05:03] <Pelo> Tester,  your problem is wine related , try asking for a solution in #winehq
[05:03] <blahblahblah> larson9999, your a true geek, i'm a politico and biased ... i can't stand such ideas :)
[05:03] <larson9999> eontasticness_: i just like checking stuff out.
[05:03] <Arplos> I have a partition in /dev/hda4, FAT 32 for files.
[05:03] <Arplos> It is not longer appearing.
[05:03] <Tester> would it be possible to link the cd rom to something else (theres a command i think), that way allowing me to swtich cds?
[05:03] <eontasticness_> larson9999: i am guilty of that too ---- notice i didn't say i hadn't TRIED either OS, just that i couldnt find a practical use for them :)
[05:04] <vox754> Arplos: "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:04] <larson9999> blahblahblah: i'm political.  i'm pro OSS
[05:04] <Pelo> Arplos,  do you mean that the partition doesn't mount or that the partition is gone ?
[05:04] <Arplos> The partition doesn't mount.
[05:04] <Tester> pelo, ill try going there, thanks
[05:04] <Arplos> It was a mount point.
[05:04] <blahblahblah> woot! /me adds one more to the team
[05:04] <Pelo> Arplos,  just mount it manualy then
[05:04] <variant> Tester: seems like other poeple have had this exact problem
[05:04] <variant> Tester: are you following any howto for the install or just doing it as you go?
[05:04] <Zyrule> well,  i managed to get the ubuntu installer to boot. lol
[05:04] <Faust-C> ?
[05:05] <Faust-C> tsk tsk
[05:05] <frogzoo> !appdb | tester
[05:05] <ubotu> tester: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:05] <eontasticness_> I like the open source movement but I am not anti-commercial software ... there is a place for both
[05:05] <Tester> variant, following a howto on the wine website, but the person who wrote it was using suse it seems
[05:05] <variant> Tester: i see
[05:05] <Zyrule> but disabling the PCI doesn't allow the ISA slot to work....
[05:05] <Arplos> sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt
[05:05] <blahblahblah> eontasticness_, me too, i have a problem with redmonds business practices.  although ubuntu has really changed things, its getting easy to just recommend ubuntu to a home user because it just works
[05:05] <blahblahblah> of course there are gotchas
[05:05] <variant> Tester: make an iso of the cdrom and mount it like so mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[05:05] <Arplos> But i have to do it every time i want to use it, or is it a way to automate this process?
[05:06] <blahblahblah> i just found out i can't get a bunch of my home test users to dist upgrade ... blasted thing doesn't work
[05:06] <Pelo> Arplos,  sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/whatever
[05:06] <vox754> Arplos: you need edit "/etc/fstab"
[05:06] <Pelo> Arplos,  you'll have to add it to the fstab file
[05:06] <Arplos> Let me see.
[05:06] <Faust-C> Arplos: how about making a bash alias
[05:06] <Tester> variant, too much work :S I'll sniff around winehq some more, thanks for the help
[05:06] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: Ubuntu doesnt "just work" unless the only objective is to have a display and surf the net
[05:06] <unop> Tester, well, you could try umounting the cdrom and ejecting then -- trying sudo eject - or physically forcing the drive out -- i think you need the last option here
[05:06] <Faust-C> and that solves the issue
[05:07] <variant> Tester: np, i know that my way will work though :)
[05:07] <Faust-C> eontasticness_: lol
[05:07] <blahblahblah> eontasticness_, i will haveto disagree with you there
[05:07] <eontasticness_> blahblahblah: any ubuntu desktop i install involves 30 minutes to an hour of configuration
[05:07] <blahblahblah> actually 5 minutes
[05:07] <Faust-C> blahblahblah: what ?
[05:07] <blahblahblah> i just image a preconfigured setup
[05:07] <vox754> Faust-C, it should be possible to auto mount, that is the real deal; aliases are for other things.
[05:07] <Faust-C> cause its already done for  you like MS
[05:07] <Faust-C> vox754: alias can be for anything
[05:07] <larson9999> eontasticness_: i think haiku will be useful pretty soon.  reactos problably in about a year but only for those things i REALLY need windows.  not that that will be too often.  but when an oss os goes v1 i add it to my rotation.
[05:07] <Faust-C> vox754: you guys want everything to be done for you do it yourself
[05:07] <Tester> variant yup, it will, but too much trouble. i just went on winehq and the command to remove the cd was as simple as wine eject :D
[05:08] <variant> Tester: cool! :)
[05:08] <barbarella2> eontasticness_:what more do we need ;-)
[05:08] <variant> Tester: I didn't know of that.. very handy for future reference :)
[05:08] <eontasticness_> larson9999: i have a few "trash machines" that i am always loading new OSes on to test them
[05:08] <vox754> Faust-C: I agree. No discussion, today I've been bashed enough already.
[05:08] <kaso> Why have i recently started getting the follow error messages occasionally (when installing with apt, when running certain programs: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[05:08] <andre> hey folks
[05:08] <Arplos> What is a bash alias?
[05:08] <Faust-C> vox754: lol
[05:08] <eontasticness_> barbarella2: true, porn and news seem to run the world
[05:08] <variant> eontasticness_: you tried haiku?
[05:09] <eontasticness_> barbarella2: both of which are found on the net
[05:09] <archangelpetro> what package do syscalls come under?
[05:09] <eontasticness_> variant: yeah
[05:09] <Faust-C> Arplos: i have a alink for yopu
[05:09] <Faust-C> Arplos: sec
[05:09] <variant> Arplos: where you take one command for example "ls -al" and alias it to "lsa"
[05:09] <Faust-C> Arplos: linuxbased.blogspot.com
[05:09] <blahblahblah> there is just so much software in the repos most average users i deal with simply canot find the time to use it all
[05:09] <variant> eontasticness_: any good?
[05:09] <Faust-C> variant: great way to explain it
[05:09] <blahblahblah> infact beyond the stuff i preload on the image i have a hard time getting them to install anything from the repo
[05:10] <andre> I've installed the nvidia-glx and nvidia setting packages, then I've installed beryl but it crashes X when I start beryl manager....  any help?
[05:10] <vox754> Faust-C: ha ha, you see. He doesn't know what an alias is... just strengthens my point... I didn't says anything...
[05:10] <larson9999> eontasticness_: i'm anti commercial for personal use.  and i'm kinda tired of paying for desktops that are basically a reshuffling of the same stuff around so it's hard for me to find in the new version.  like buying a new car and the only real changes are they moved the cup holders to places i'm not used to and don't like.
[05:10] <juano__> hello everyone!
[05:10] <variant> Faust-C: was that sarchasm? :)
[05:10] <blahblahblah> game players of course not, but its getting good
[05:10] <Faust-C> vox754: lol well idk some ppl ...
[05:10] <Faust-C> variant: no that was a compliment
[05:10] <Arplos> Well, this channel has been really, really useful.
[05:10] <variant> ah thanks
[05:10] <eontasticness_> variant:  it still has a long way to go, but it's pretty fast and stable
[05:10] <frogzoo> Arplos: -> ~/.bash_aliases
[05:10] <variant> eontasticness_: niec
[05:10] <Faust-C> Arplos: btw thats my site
[05:10] <blahblahblah> larson9999, yeah thats the other thing.  there is a lot of inefficiency in the capitalist market ... as a capitalist pig thats hard to admit :)
[05:10] <variant> nice*
[05:10] <juano__> andre: i hade this issue some days ago, and then i downloaded beryl from other repos, beryl svn
[05:10] <Faust-C> Arplos: ill be adding vids soon
[05:10] <blahblahblah> everyone tends to reinvent the wheel over there and not play nice
[05:10] <juano__> andre: fixed for me
[05:11] <Arplos> I'm watching it's progress & content.
[05:11] <Nuute> My thanks again to barbarella2.  from complaining about my networking issues to completely working in only a few miserable hours.  Patience is a virtue.  ;)
[05:11] <blahblahblah> Nuute, what turned out to be the issue? just curious
[05:11] <andre> !nvidia9
[05:11] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[05:11] <juano__> andre: it can be a version incompatibility issue
[05:11] <Arplos> Comunitty rocks.
[05:11] <andre> !beryl
[05:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:11] <Faust-C> but not on ubuntu
[05:11] <Nuute> lol ask barbarella2
[05:11] <vox754> variant: we should take everything as compliments, rather than sarcasms.
[05:11] <blahblahblah> beryl works just fine here
[05:11] <Xilon> To ubuntu devs/kernel maintainers: Does the stock Ubuntu kernel have the mactel patchset applied? I would like to get my Macbook working and I heard Ubuntu works very well, I'd like to know why ;)
[05:12] <eontasticness_> larson9999: windows is relatively inexpensive considering it is an operating system that people use every day of their life at work and home ----- granted you and I might know better than to run it, but windows suits most people's needs
[05:12] <vox754> Gator: wassap, man!
[05:12] <larson9999> blahblahblah: so now i only use oss(as far as I know) for personal use.  haven't bought anything for a couple years now.  i just donate yearly to oss projects i use.
[05:12] <blahblahblah> !mactel
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mactel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <blahblahblah> darn
[05:12] <barbarella2> blahblahblah:just some blabla
[05:12] <eontasticness_> larson9999: i've bought software before that i used on a regular basis, because i found it useful
[05:12] <Nuute> blahblahblah:  the last issue to stop my cause was my windows network card causing grief.
[05:12] <eontasticness_> i have some mactels
[05:12] <eontasticness_> macintels
[05:12] <Faust-C> Dr_willis: the fix is format install linux
[05:12] <blahblahblah> larson9999, i particapate my self, *nod*.  i use ubuntu and debian for work as well, i'm lucky
[05:13] <blahblahblah> Nuute, neat, barbarella2 *nod*
[05:13] <larson9999> eontasticness_: yeah, but i decided years ago i've paid enough for windows.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> I finially got my Logitech G15 Keyboard + lcd working with lcdproc. Weee.  :)
[05:13] <rio> what version or variant of ubuntu are you guys using? seems like 6.10 is buggy & keeps crashing on me.  also, i hear that others have switched back to ubuntu 6.06 for stability
[05:14] <eontasticness_> i maintain a lot of bsd systems for work
[05:14] <eontasticness_> but I deal with win2k3 servers as well
[05:14] <eontasticness_> and some slowaris machines
[05:14] <Xilon> No one knows about the kernel here? :(
[05:14] <Arplos> Ubuntu 6.10 is beta.
[05:14] <eontasticness_> i spend more time fixing stupid windows problems than anything
[05:14] <frogzoo> rio: please keep the fud off chan - edgy works fine
[05:14] <eontasticness_> Xilon: i know plenty about the kernel
[05:14] <eontasticness_> Xilon: what do you need to know?
[05:14] <vox754> rio: Ubuntu 6.10, there is currently a bug/crash with new kernel update and NVidia drivers; everything else seems okay.
[05:15] <rio> what fud?
[05:15] <blahblahblah> rio, LTS is pretty darned good.  i'm starting to think that 6 month release cycles are too short for something like a desktop distro
[05:15] <larson9999> eontasticness_: i love windows for WORK.  makes me tons of money.  i'm only talking personal use.
[05:15] <klypso> I am having trouble opening files in KDE
[05:15] <rio> whats LTS?
[05:15] <blahblahblah> larson9999, lol, perpetual work indeed
[05:15] <vox754> Xilon: no, sorry.
[05:15] <Xilon> eontasticness_: Firstly I'd like to know if it has the mactel patchset applied, and secodnly why it works with macbooks so well ;)
[05:15] <blahblahblah> larson9999, i have started a pilot at work, wherever i install linux my calls dissapear
[05:15] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:15] <larson9999> blahblahblah: think i'm going to name my next car VISTA
[05:15] <blahblahblah> its the weirdest thing, i've never expected that
[05:16] <blahblahblah> your getting a pinto?
[05:16] <klypso> I chose to open my ipod in amarok, and put it as the default for that type of file.  Now when I try to access my home folder, it tried to open it in amarok
[05:16] <blahblahblah> *cough* sorry, couldn't resist
[05:16] <vox754> rio: "fud" is misinformation; LTS means Long Term Support. Bugs and patches will be addresses for three years.
[05:16] <Dante72536> hey i need help anyone
[05:16] <larson9999> blahblahblah: no, i name my toys after the thing at work that paid for them.  gonna have lots of things named vista.  i'll have to come up with a proper naming convention
[05:17] <klypso> I cannot open directories in KDE
[05:17] <blahblahblah> larson9999, rofl, oh wow indeed
[05:17] <eontasticness_> Xilon: you want to know if *what* has the mactel patch applied?
[05:17] <blahblahblah> you know i didn't think about that, so true
[05:17] <cpk1> if I installed a bunch of stuff via apt and it still is in my cache is there a way I can have another computer on the same network pull those same apps from there instead of the web?
[05:17] <klypso> as I have set the default for directories to be opened in amarok
[05:17] <blahblahblah> larson9999, i keep on thinking about how to solve the problem instead of realising how much money it generates
[05:17] <blahblahblah> eh
[05:17] <Dante72536> is there any ubuntu expertor something like that?
[05:17] <Dante72536> o.o?
[05:17] <Dante72536> expert*
[05:18] <blahblahblah> Dante72536, just ask
[05:18] <Dante72536> k
[05:18] <vox754> cpk1: maybe you could fetch the .deb packages from the network.
[05:18] <vox754> !ask > Dante72536
[05:18] <Dante72536> how do you do to unpack the deb file of the adobe flash media player installer?
[05:18] <BigMac> how do I exit sudo su?
[05:18] <vox754> Dante72536, we are no expert, we are volunteers.
[05:18] <BigMac> like go back to regular mode
[05:18] <klypso> BigMac: quit
[05:18] <larson9999> blahblahblah: yeah, ms is the reason i have my job so i can't knock it too much.
[05:18] <Arplos> Type "q"
[05:18] <Xilon> eontasticness_: the stock kernel. I spoke with someone who had Ubuntu working out of the box
[05:18] <klypso> rather, exit
[05:19] <larson9999> time to make the zzz's
[05:19] <klypso> BigMac: ^D or quit
[05:20] <klypso> anyone with a clue of how to fix the directory problem?
[05:20] <eontasticness_> Xilon:  yeah mactel works out of the box w/ ubuntu
[05:20] <vox754> klypso, checked the permissions? they should have read at least.
[05:20] <Xilon> eontasticness_: so it has been applied? Just wondering if it's worth my time recompiling the kernel and patching it...
[05:21] <klypso> vox754: I set the default for directory viewing to be amarok, when opening my ipod
[05:21] <eontasticness_> Xilon: yeah it has been applied ---- it's worth your time to recompile if you have a lot of applications/configs set up already
[05:21] <eontasticness_> otherwise just nuke and reload
[05:21] <eontasticness_> always nice to have a clean start every once in a while
[05:21] <klypso> vox754: now when I try to open my home folder, amarok finds the music in it and plays it, and I do not view it
[05:22] <Xilon> eontasticness_: ok, thanks a lot :)
[05:22] <eontasticness_> no problem
[05:22] <duckvenge> Linux partion extended numbers start from 5 right?
[05:22] <vox754> klypso, ipod? well that is a different matter. I haven't tried that.
[05:23] <vox754> duckvenge: YES.
[05:23] <duckvenge> thanks vox754
[05:23] <kaso> Why have i recently started getting the follow error messages occasionally (when installing with apt, when running certain programs: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[05:23] <klypso> vox754: see, I chose to open the ipod in amarok, and hit the 'set as default for this kind of file' button
[05:23] <firstaid> back
[05:23] <unop> kaso,  what does your $LANG variable contain?
[05:24] <peeps> does anyone here dual/multi boot more than one Linux distro?
[05:24] <vox754> !ipod
[05:24] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:24] <duckvenge> in menu.lst, hd1,4  should refer to  partion 5 of hdb right ?
[05:24] <juano__> !rockbox
[05:24] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[05:24] <juano__> vox754: thanks, i was looking for some info on that
[05:24] <klypso> vox754: the problem is not the ipod, it is the fact that the default opener for directories is amarok
[05:24] <klypso> how can I change that
[05:24] <vox754> klypso, oooh. Got it. seems strange.
[05:25] <klypso> I cannot open directories now
[05:25] <eontasticness_> peeps: only when i was once poor :) --- i used to have a linux install of redhat to do my development and then mandrake as my desktop... that was back in 98 or 99 though and i was stil in HS
[05:25] <kaso> unop i think it says "en_US.UTF-8"
[05:25] <vox754> juano__, thank you for using the irc channel. Be nice and help people.
[05:25] <unop> kaso,  be sure -- use this command - echo $LANG
[05:25] <eontasticness_> now ive got multiple systems
[05:25] <eontasticness_> no need to dual booth
[05:25] <kaso> mmhm
[05:25] <kaso> en_US.UTF-8
[05:26] <braddcadd2000> Hello everyone.  My scanner is detected with "sane-find-scanner" but not with "scanimage -L" or "sudo xsane".  I have Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) and an HP Officejet 5610 (all-in-one) scanner.  The scanner is listed as supported and there are people who have it running on Linux.  Thanks for any help.
[05:26] <juano__> vox754: yep ! thats we are here for :-)
[05:26] <erjing> somebody know how to use mysql.vim wget.vim svn.vim ?
[05:26] <juano__> vox754: actually the thing is i have a motorola rokr with itunes, im trying to sync it with ubuntu
[05:26] <vox754> klypso: and you are using KDE? Can you try "konqueror" on the terminal.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> braddcadd2000,  you may need to install the 'hpoj' hp office jet - server/package
[05:27] <unop> kaso, hmm, i wonder if you are installing  a package meant for another locale/language
[05:27] <klypso> vox754: i'll try that
[05:27] <juano__> vox754: havent been able to with gtkpod and amarok
[05:27] <peeps> I want to give /home it's own partition and let more than one distro read it.  But i think I am running into weird permission issues
[05:27] <braddcadd2000> Dr_willis: thanks, i have done this already too
[05:27] <vox754> juano__, I don't have an Ipod, sorry. Viva las Uruguay!
[05:27] <juano__> vox754: actually with amarok, it detects it and even uploads songs lol! except it doesnt show in the itunes library !
[05:27] <unop> kaso, you could try something like - LANG=en_US sudo aptitude install package
[05:27] <juano__> vox754: once it uploads it doesnt show up
[05:28] <juano__> vox754: Viva Uruguay ! hehe
[05:28] <Dr_willis> braddcadd2000,  im out of ideas then. :) i had to tiddle with some things for my HP1210v (all in one thing) but aint used it in a year+
[05:28] <klypso> vox754: ah, that worked.  Thanks
[05:28] <gnufied> can anyone help me with my graphics pad/tablet work in Ubuntu dapper?
[05:28] <unop> kaso,  or better - LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1  sudo aptitude ....
[05:28] <kaso> i saw it when i was doing the automatic update and i saw the error a couple times, and when i try and run the nvidia config utility it gets the same error, its not just a partiular package
[05:28] <gnufied> driver seems to recognize the hardware, but i am not able to use it as an input device
[05:29] <vox754> klypso: you keep trying to set that as your default viewer.
[05:29] <barbarella2> peeps:yes cause of different gid numbers
[05:29] <braddcadd2000> Dr_willis: thanks anyway, i think i need a sane expert, not many people one that channel though
[05:29] <peeps> barbarella2:  can it be done?
[05:30] <bcardarella> How do I see what is in memory?
[05:30] <bcardarella> from command line
[05:30] <barbarella2> peeps:yes you can
[05:30] <peeps> bcardarella: use top
[05:31] <vox754> bcardarella: "top", "free -m",
[05:31] <peeps> i actually prefer htop, but it is not installed by default
[05:31] <vox754> bcardarella: "cat /proc/meminfo"
[05:32] <Dr_willis> htop is nice.. should be included by default. :)
[05:32] <peeps> barbarella2, can you tell me what I would need to do?
[05:32] <espen> hi, i just installed ubuntu for the first time, awsome distro, soo easy....but i seem to be missing a lot of codecs to the media players......any easy way to install them?
[05:33] <peeps> espen: have you tried automatix?
[05:33] <vox754> !restricted > espen
[05:33] <espen> no, what is that?
[05:33] <gnufied> Dr_willis, help me in making my tablet/graphics work in dapper. plzzzzzzzzzz
[05:33] <peeps> it is a program that makes it easy to install a lot of things like codecs and multimedia apps, etc.
[05:33] <peeps> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[05:34] <Gator> is there a recommended speed to burn the ubuntu liveCD .iso?
[05:34] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix | peeps, espen
[05:34] <ubotu> peeps, espen: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:34] <Dr_willis> gnufied,  what tablet?
[05:34] <arnducky> ewwwww
[05:34] <espen> cool, have just used the install stuff that came with ubu
[05:34] <solidsource> hello....I'm looking for some assistance with that very same program (Automatix)
[05:34] <Music_Shuffle> Gator, not really, if needed, you can burn it slower perhaps.
[05:34] <gnufied> iball graphics pad or some call it tablet also
[05:34] <vox754> Gator: NO. Still having problems?
[05:34] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix | solidsource
[05:34] <gnufied> Dr_willis,
[05:34] <ubotu> solidsource: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:34] <espen> thanx for your help, i'll look into it
[05:34] <Gator> vox: I'm just now getting the iso downloaded >_>
[05:35] <Dr_willis> gnufied,  never seen/heard of it.. you sure its got any linux support at all?
[05:35] <Music_Shuffle> espen, the point of that factoid was that its -not- the best idea...
[05:35] <Gator> I was just wondering if I should burn it faster or slower
[05:35] <peeps> !WorksForMe
[05:35] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:35] <vox754> Gator: do the checksum before anything. Also do the memtest.
[05:35] <gnufied> Dr_willis, [17297556.632000]  input: UC-LOGIC Tablet WP5540U as /class/input/input3
[05:36] <Gator> and how do I do that?
[05:36] <solidsource> anyone get this qhen trying to install something: "E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes"
[05:36] <bcardarella> cool, thanks
[05:36] <gnufied> thats what dmesg throws up, when i connect to the PC
[05:36] <Dr_willis> gnufied,  that just means its seen... :) and printingout an id code..
[05:36] <Gator> Vox: How do I do the checksum?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> gnufied,  set the xorg.conf to use it as a input device perhaps?
[05:37] <nevron> people i need help installing nvidia drivers is there a better channel to ask this or am i in the right place
[05:37] <barbarella2> Gator:are you using a rewritable cd?
[05:37] <Gator> no
[05:37] <vox754> Gator: I mean, when you have downloaded the ISO, you can run the Live CD and do the checksum before installing. Also you can search an executable "md5sum.exe" for Windows that lets you check the iso. You need a long number from the same page you got the ISO.
[05:38] <Music_Shuffle> nevron, the goal is what, Beryl?
[05:38] <Falstius> is there a metapackage for all the X11 -dev packages?
[05:38] <solidsource> nevron: how are doing it? cause I am trying to use the latest install of automix and keep getting an error
[05:38] <gnufied> Dr_willis, heard of wacom graphics pads? there is a line in default xorg.conf for that
[05:38] <gnufied> this device is exactly the same, except its not from wacom
[05:38] <peeps> nevron: personally I just manually download the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com, and run the script
[05:38] <Music_Shuffle> solidsource, did you read the factoid about automatix...?
[05:39] <fnf> I couldn't find the dev package of openssl in Edgy server, can anyone please confirm this ?. I need it to compile rdesktop.
[05:39] <peeps> have to redo it for every kernel update though
[05:39] <nevron> peeps i am getitng an error when i try to dl the rpackages it goes like this  nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629
[05:39] <nevron> bash: nvidia-glx:: command not found
[05:39] <linux1> anyone use lacie light scribe labeler in here?
[05:39] <robbie_cras1> hi all, I'm having a weird problem where all of a sudden, for no apparent reason, my screen sort of locks up. My computer keeps running, but my display freezes, aside from my mouse pointer which still moves. I'm new to Linux, and have no idea what could cause this, or how to fix it
[05:39] <nevron> it is telling me that i have unmet dependencies
[05:39] <fnf> Anyone ?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> gnufied,  it also may use a different driver  or are you saying it IS a wacom - just relabled?
[05:40] <vox754> fnf: sorry, no experience with that.
[05:40] <gnufied> Dr_willis, nope its not wacom, but rather from iball, but i said, its the similar device. like mice from a different manufacturer
[05:41] <nevron> music shuffle yes the goal is beryl but i have to setup the nvidia drivers first and then need some dual screen setup
[05:41] <fnf> vox754: Thanks anyway, it's weird there's no dev package of openssl though.
[05:41] <nevron> at the end i hope to get beryl going
[05:41] <unop> fnf,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/utils/openssl
[05:42] <Dr_willis> gnufied,  id say do some googling..  the thing may not be as fully supported.  You shoudl at least get some 'movement' if you create a new input device with the right /dev/input for it.
[05:42] <barbarella2> fnf: libssl-dev
[05:42] <peeps> robbie_cras1: can you Ctrl-Alt-F1 to terminal when it happens?  Maybe you can then check logs or something
[05:42] <vox754> linux1, lacie light scribe? sorry, no experience with that
[05:42] <fnf> barbarella2: Ah, thanks a lot.
[05:42] <robbie_cras1> nope, screen stays totally locked aside from the mouse pointer
[05:42] <Music_Shuffle> nevron, if the ultimate goal is Beryl, try #ubuntu-effects.
[05:42] <Boohbah> linux1: lacie is a usb or firewire drive, right?
[05:42] <hajiki> hey guys how do i uninstall KDE???
[05:43] <nevron> music shuffle ok
[05:43] <linux1> LaCie is the light scribe software
[05:43] <robbie_cras1> ctrl+alt+backspace won't restart X either
[05:43] <robbie_cras1> ctrl+alt+del won't reboot
[05:43] <linux1> i get the light scribe gui to come up, but cant make any sense of it
[05:43] <Dr_willis> hajiki,  not very easially.  fire up pacakge manager and search/click start unisntalling. :) there used to be a web site that detailed using aptitude to remove the whole kde or gnome-desktop
[05:43] <vox754> fnf: I found it also with "aptitude search openssl"
[05:43] <linux1> no way to input text for scribing
[05:43] <unop> hajiki,  do you want to completely remove all KDE packages?
[05:43] <hajiki> :(
[05:44] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: what type of video adapter do you have?
[05:44] <robbie_cras1> nVidia GeForce 7600GS
[05:44] <stinger_au> yo
[05:44] <hajiki> well i dunno, i just installed it and didnt like it
[05:44] <stinger_au> hey i just install squid but it did not come with cachemgr.cgi ?
[05:44] <stinger_au> werid
[05:44] <martin_> hello lucky!
[05:44] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: are you using the nvida drivers or the nv built into xorg?
[05:44] <stinger_au> any one able to send me this file
[05:44] <robbie_cras1> nvidia
[05:44] <stinger_au> or know where i can get it
[05:44] <fnf> vox754: I see, sorry for bothering. I was just so certain it should be named libopenssl-dev.
[05:44] <robbie_cras1> most recent stable ones
[05:44] <unop> hajiki, the first section (removing kubuntu) should help you  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:44] <peeps> robbie_cras1: you running beryl?
[05:44] <hajiki> and now it says kubuntu at boot time wtf
[05:45] <robbie_cras1> yes
[05:45] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: have you tried changed xorg.conf back to using nv and see if it still locks?
[05:45] <vox754> fnf: seems logical. Good luck.
[05:45] <hajiki> unop: thanks
[05:45] <robbie_cras1> econtasticness No I've not tried that.
[05:46] <robbie_cras1> does the ssh server run by default in ubuntu??
[05:46] <peeps> it's probably a beryl bug.  I know that on my comp, beryl will lock up my system when I go to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and try to come back
[05:46] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: i had similar problems with using the nvidia driver on my geforce go 7600 based laptop
[05:46] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: no you have to install sshd
[05:46] <pavs> I am trying to edit a file as a user under gui not terminal. is it possible to edit the file without logging off and logging  in back as  a root?
[05:46] <robbie_cras1> I've got it installed
[05:46] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: ah then yeah it should put it in startup automatically
[05:46] <robbie_cras1> I just don't know if I have to explicitly start it or if it's like samba and runs at startup
[05:46] <robbie_cras1> thanks
[05:46] <robbie_cras1> brb
[05:47] <eontasticness_> ok
[05:47] <Hellevator> how can i change the default icon for all .rb files?
[05:47] <peeps> pavs: you can use gksudo to launch an editor
[05:47] <vox754> !gksudo > pavs
[05:47] <vox754> !sudo > pavs
[05:47] <Hellevator> i can change 1 individual file by changing it in the properties but how can I change the icon for all .rb files
[05:47] <espen> thanx guys all good now, linux this way will make me lazy :P
[05:48] <unop> pavs,  ALT+F2 -- gksudo gedit  .. opens up gedit under the super user context
[05:48] <vox754> espen: what was your problem? I forgot.
[05:48] <espen> restriced codecs
[05:48] <pavs> thanks for the info guys
[05:48] <peeps> yw
[05:48] <duckvenge> anyone know what /dev/rd generally refers to?
[05:48] <vox754> espen: sure, I remember. Success?
[05:49] <espen> ye, and much easier than i am used to
[05:49] <qmf> hi there. i've installed a 6.10 command line only setup and i need to get my wireless network set up.
[05:49] <eontasticness_> duckvenge: raid disk
[05:49] <duckvenge> oh ok, thanks!
[05:49] <eontasticness_> np
[05:49] <vox754> espen: you can write me a check, you know.
[05:50] <espen> ppl use checks still? oO
[05:50] <qmf> the card shows up when i do iwconfig
[05:50] <vox754> pavs: another satisfied customer.
[05:50] <robbie_cras1> if I switch back to the nv driver is that going to kill my beryl?
[05:50] <qmf> but the xfce4-wavelan applet tells me there's no device
[05:50] <pavs> :)
[05:51] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: i think itll still work --- i would just do that for testing purposes
[05:51] <robbie_cras1> yeah
[05:51] <eontasticness_> robbie_cras1: if it works, then try to find a slightly older version of the nvidia driver
[05:51] <unop> qmf,  I thought you said "command line only setup"  ? what did you mean by that?
[05:52] <robbie_cras1> I just installed the latest, in hopes that might fix it, but that didn't so I'd have to go back at least two
[05:52] <qmf> i installed the command line only then added xfce4 on top
[05:52] <qmf> i didn't want a bloated install with loads of apps
[05:53] <unop> qmf, ahh right .. you shouldnt have used "only" there and should have mentioned xfce too .. anyway -- does ifconfig -a list your device?
[05:53] <vox754> espen: just for the record, neither Totem, Gxine, nor Mplayer totally worked. But VLC works perfectly.
[05:53] <Simpleton> Hey guys, I just installed Beryl, but it seems to have blanked out my second monitor. The mouse can still go over to it but other than it is black
[05:53] <qmf> unop: yeah it's listed. eth1
[05:54] <Simpleton> I can't figure out how to get it back to function properly on there
[05:54] <espen> using totem now, didnt like the new mplayer look, and it wont play from my network drive like totem
[05:54] <vox754> !beryl
[05:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:54] <SlicerDicer-> I am trying to compile a 32bit kernel it keeps going crazy and trying to compile it in 64bit... however this is a chroot enviroment inside a 64bit gentoo install
[05:54] <vox754> Simpleton: I don't know a thing about beryl, sorry.
[05:55] <rpc> what does it mean when i get "time of day goes back" when pinging a host?
[05:55] <Simpleton> Its okay, ill check that channel, thanks
[05:55] <unop> qmf, ok, i dont have wireless here, so i might be a little off with the commands does iwlist eth1 scan  list any networks ?
[05:55] <qmf> unop: yep it lists my access point
[05:56] <juano__> has anyone made a mobile itunes sync with Ubuntu _
[05:56] <vox754> SlicerDicer-, that is too andvanced for my level, sorry.
[05:56] <juano__> the itunes library sync with ubuntu ?
[05:56] <Music_Shuffle> !Beryl
[05:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:56] <juano__> i can mount the phone, get stuff in it, etc, but i cant sync the itunes library
[05:56] <espen> seems like the hardest part of the whole install was to retreave the encryption key for my wireless...everything worked right out of the box :)
[05:57] <robbie_cras1> the nv driver will not work for me. It won't let me change my default refresh rate, which means that I've got a little box bouncing around saying input not supported
[05:57] <robbie_cras1> any other troubleshooting ideas?
[05:57] <pavs> how can I open folder browser root
[05:57] <unop> qmf,  ok, to connect i think you do - sudo iwconfig eth0 essid <networkname>
[05:57] <juano__> Robbie_Crash: tried nvidia driver ?
[05:57] <vox754> espen: I congratulate you. Support with money to any project you want. I suggest "ndiswrapper"
[05:57] <fnf> robbie_cras1: Looks like the nv driver works but you cannot change the refresh rate ?
[05:58] <unop> qmf,  actuallu -sudo iwconfig eth1 key <key>
[05:58] <eontasticness_> there should be an option in the xorg conf to change the refresh rate
[05:58] <unop> qmf,  oops
[05:58] <espen> anything that normally resides on sourceforge if my favorittes :)
[05:58] <unop> qmf,  actually -sudo sh -c " iwconfig eth1 key <key>; iwconfig eth0 essid <networkname>"
[05:59] <unop> errm s/eth0/eth1/
[05:59] <fnf> pavs: gksudo nautilus
[05:59] <Hellevator> how can i change the default icon for all .rb files?
[05:59] <pavs> in gnome?
[06:00] <fnf> pavs: In a terminal or Alt+F2
[06:00] <Hellevator> pavs, yes in gnome
[06:00] <robbie_cras1> yeah the nvidia driver works fine, but the issue is that every so often and for no apparent reason my computer stops updating my display, for the most part
[06:00] <fnf> Hallevator: That depends on the theme you chose.
[06:00] <vox754> unop, I do "sudo iwconfig wlan0 key open 1234567890" and "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <networkname>"
[06:00] <Hellevator> fnf, im using the default human theme in 6.10
[06:00] <qmf> unop: my access point is open. i did sudo iwconfig eth1 essid myaccesspointname
[06:00] <qmf> but it didn't echo anything
[06:00] <qmf> now can i tell if it worked without unplugging my eth0
[06:00] <Hellevator> i don't want to change my entire theme, only the default icon for one file type
[06:01] <robbie_cras1> from earlier: I'm having a weird problem where all of a sudden, for no apparent reason, my screen sort of locks up. My computer keeps running, but my display freezes, aside from my mouse pointer which still moves.
[06:01] <unop> qmf,  ok, check to see if eth1 got an ip address -- ifconfig -a
[06:01] <vivicrow> anyone here knows a lot about hard drives???
[06:01] <pavs> thanks alot guys, you have made my life easier I didny know you could do this, i used to logout and login as root to change application or files
[06:01] <proqesi> !anyone
[06:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:01] <eontasticness_> Hellevator: im not in front of a linux machine right now, but in the Gnome Control Center, theres an option for editing file types
[06:01] <vox754> !ask > vivicrow
[06:01] <fnf> Hellevator: The icons are specified in theme by theme basis, if you want to change all icons related to a file type. You need to change the appropriate icon in the theme or install a new theme.
[06:01] <qmf> it doesn't have an ip address..
[06:01] <eontasticness_> then within there theres a thing to change icons in the properties for that filetype
[06:01] <unop> vox754,  hmm, i dunno why you got iwconfig wlan0 key open .. and then a key there .. anyway, i tend to edit /etc/network/interfaces directly
[06:02] <unop> qmf,  errm, try this -- sudo dhclient eth1
[06:02] <eontasticness_> Hellevator: hopefully that helps, i remember seeing it there tho
[06:02] <vox754> unop, it is possible both ways.
[06:02] <Hellevator> eontasticness_, i did the thing to change it from properties but that only changed 1 file, not all them
[06:02] <illusin1> Hi, how do you "reinstall" an existing kernel (wipe the existing instance and replace it with a fresh copy)?
[06:02] <eontasticness_> Hellevator: from the Gnome Control Center?
[06:02] <Hellevator> fnf, is there anyway to edit my human theme file?
[06:02] <eontasticness_> not just right clicking on the file
[06:02] <zero88> my girlfriend right now is blowing some bad gaasss!
[06:03] <illusin1> +b zero88
[06:03] <unop> vox754,  in that case, your command is just a variation of mine .. you just sudo twice, i dont :)
[06:03] <eontasticness_> zero88:  dump that stanky ho
[06:03] <qmf> unop: awesome. it's got an ip
[06:03] <qmf> lemme test it
[06:03] <zero88> haha im immune to it now
[06:03] <fnf> Hellevator: Yes, but the default theme is located outside your home, so you should make a copy from /usr/share/themes/ of theme into your .themes folder.
[06:03] <zero88> she said that wasnt very nice
[06:04] <unop> qmf,  if you wired interface is also connected upto the same access point -- disable eth0 and try it out
[06:04] <vox754> unop; yeah sure, its the same thing with the ampersand & between them
[06:04] <Hellevator> eontasticness_, i have the gnome control center open but this is just the same stuff thats in system->perferences
[06:04] <qmf_> unop: great! thanks :D will it stay set up like this?
[06:05] <unop> vox754,  errm not really -- command1 & commnd2  is not the same as   command1 && command2
[06:05] <zero88> i need some help with edgy.... it comes with ipw3945 now supposed to work out of the box,wich i set everything up perfectly, but it seems not to send any packets? what is wrong
[06:05] <vox754> unop: you get my point... now tell him about "interfaces"
[06:06] <fnf> Hellevator: Copy your theme folder from /usr/share/themes to ~/.themes then make the modification there.
[06:06] <unop> qmf_,  errm, with wireless. nothing is predictable -- but to make it persist you need to ensure that /etc/network/interfaces contains a configuration for eth1
[06:06] <dabaR> zero88: do you have an IP address assigned from your AP?
[06:06] <Hellevator> fnf, trying that now
[06:06] <zero88> dabar i think it does it automatically
[06:07] <dabaR> zero88: well, check whether there is a proper IP address.
[06:07] <bulmer> zero88 verify with iwconfig wlan0
[06:07] <zero88> dabar ok how do i do that, ifdown eth1 then ifup eth1
[06:07] <eontasticness_> Hellevator: hmm i remember it being under the open with section but that was a while ago --- mightve been dropped from the gui for some stupid reason
[06:07] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, no worries :)
[06:07] <unop> qmf_,  this has it all - http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking
[06:07] <fnf> Hellevator: Sorry. You want to change the icon, so copy the current icon folder in /usr/share/icons to your ~/.icons
[06:07] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, I am doing crazy stuff over here hehe
[06:08] <dabaR> zero88: nope. ifconfig will tell you the information about your interfaces.
[06:08] <pavs> when you try to open a php file in local apache webserver, does it mean php os npt installed/configured in the apache server?
[06:08] <zero88> dabar iwconfig wlan shows nothing but iwconfig shows my interfaces for eth1
[06:08] <vox754> unop: but check the ethernet cable is unplugged and the wireless device "eth0" deactivated.
[06:08] <zero88> dabar wich is my wireless
[06:08] <vivicrow> whenever i plugged in one of my hard drives, my ubuntu refuse to boot!!! I have no idea where to track the problem...
[06:08] <espen> zero88 i have the same card, and i needed to activate and set it up in "main menu - system - admin - networking"
[06:08] <Dante123> hi all....what open source software would allow a user to capture streaming video from you tube......I am a teacher and there are a couple of videos that I'd like to show my class from you tube....but the school boards software (Net Sweeper) won't let anyone access you tube......I'm trying to save the video to a file.....any ideas how to go about doing this?
[06:08] <pavs> it tries to download the php file
[06:08] <Hellevator> ok thanks for the help eontasticness_ and fnf, I will work on this more later
[06:08] <dabaR> !lamp > pavs
[06:08] <eontasticness_> pavs: yes, you need php compiled into apache
[06:08] <zero88> espen i did that
[06:09] <espen> k, :)
[06:09] <vox754> SlicerDicer-, want to elaborate?
[06:09] <zero88> espen i get my signal strenth and everything
[06:09] <fnf> Dante123: There're plenty of ways, one of 'em is youtube-dl.
[06:09] <unop> vox754, eth0 is not wireless .. and im not the one configuring wireless -- (and i dont like your tone of voice either)
[06:09] <espen> you have encryped network?
[06:09] <vivicrow> whenever i plugged in one of my hard drives, my ubuntu refuse to boot!!! I have no idea where to track the problem...anyone can give me some directions????
[06:09] <Dante123> you tube dl?
[06:09] <pavs> can I download Lamp with apt-get command?
[06:09] <vox754> espen: I'm so proud. You giving back to the community.
[06:09] <espen> lol
[06:09] <fnf> Dante123: That's a python script, you may find it in Google.
[06:10] <qmf_> unop: found an example config. looks good, cheers man
[06:10] <pavs> I am trying to install pmwiki in my local computer
[06:10] <unop> qmf_,  yw :)
[06:10] <dabaR> pavs: read private message from ubotu, and follow instructions in the page he refers.
[06:10] <vox754> unop: sorry, I'm writing as fast as I can. I know you were helping the other guy, I was just reading the conversation. Sorry, I'm shutting down.
[06:10] <peeps> vivicrow: you added an additional hard drive to an existing ubuntu setup?
[06:10] <pavs> thanks again guys
[06:11] <espen> zero88 do you have an open or encryped network?
[06:11] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, well I am creating netboot enviroments inside my Gentoo AMD64 install that has nearly 1tb storage so its quite large. I will be running many OS's on there and the / is done by NFS. So I can have 90% of my comptuers without harddrives :) the problem is the kernel that comes with ubuntu does too much NFS stuff as modules so I have to build a custom kernel to do it
[06:11] <eontasticness_> i am going to sleep now
[06:11] <peeps> vivicrow: it might be that your hard drives get reordered when the new drive is added.  so hda becomes hdb for example
[06:11] <eontasticness_> wish my fileserver luck on the rebuilding of raid
[06:11] <qmf_> unop: i also think that's the first time i've actually had a problem resolved directly from this channel. woo for that.
[06:11] <eontasticness_> goodnight all
[06:11] <vivicrow> peeps: no, it is an old one, when i have it on, i can't install the ubuntu, so i haven't used that drive since then
[06:11] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, but I found the problem anyway it was I needed to run 'linux32 chroot /path/to/ /bin/bash' :)
[06:11] <gortba_> Hi. I have two hard drives with two different ubuntu operating systems installed. I want to remove one of the ubuntu's and install fedora. I can handle the install, but does anyone know how to look at my hard drives and then format the hard drive that has the ubuntu that I don't want?
[06:11] <vox754> pavs: this is the third time you thank. Are you not giving any money?
[06:11] <zero88> did this freeze?
[06:12] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, that still does not help that make menuconfig is absolutely horked though :)
[06:12] <peeps> gortba_ you should be able to do this with gparted I think
[06:12] <proqesi> gortba_: you can mount the fedora partition from ubuntu and look at the files on that partition
[06:12] <pavs> :) one day I will give it back to the ubuntu community by helping others. Give me some time I am still learning :)
[06:13] <vivicrow> gortba just do the formating while you install the fedora
[06:13] <robbie_cras1> hi all, I'm having a weird problem where all of a sudden, for no apparent reason, my screen sort of locks up. My computer keeps running, but my display freezes, aside from my mouse pointer which still moves. keyboard and mouse input (aside from cursor moving) seemingly does nothing. samba still provides access to all shared drives, mp3s keep playing but nothing can be done. Using a geforce 7600gs with the latest stable nvidia d
[06:13] <proqesi> gortba_: or if you know the sizes of the partitions, you can tell from fdisk
[06:13] <fnf> gortba_: Use cfdisk, that's more standard conformant.
[06:13] <HP_Vue> What program can you use to record screen ?
[06:13] <gortba_> ok..I'm a newbie. Can you give me the commands proqesi or fnf? Thanks by the way
[06:13] <vox754> SlicerDicer-: seems interesting. Yep, I've read you can force to use an 32-bit environment with "linux32", but I've never needed it.
[06:14] <proqesi> gortba_: fdisk /dev/hda
[06:14] <peeps> vivicrow: I am having trouble understanding your problem.  you mean the ubuntu livecd will not boot?
[06:14] <proqesi> gortba_: or if the drive is scsi it's /dev/sda
[06:14] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, yep I just forgot :)
[06:14] <fnf> robbie_cras1: Sounds like a typical bug that the nvidia driver has. If you were experiencing X locks up, look at the nvnews forum for hints.
[06:14] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, I dont usually run 32bit things in 64bit that require that :)
[06:14] <CppIsWeird> i have a folder that is used for apache, and i see that there is a user group called www-data. So i assumed adding the users i want to access it to that group would allow those users to modify the contents inside, however, it has not. how do i accomplish this?
[06:14] <g_m_kelly_> Why is it that sometimes my hard drives are in a different order? I have three drives, two on one controller, one on another. Sometimes, the single drive will be /dev/sda and sometimes /dev/sdc, but the two on the same controller are always contiguous
[06:14] <HP_Vue> What prgram????
[06:14] <proqesi> gortba_: or check /media, it may have already mounted your fedora partition
[06:14] <StriderZ> what package do I need to install for "make"?
[06:14] <fnf> gortba_: You may partition the drive with cfdisk. Sample usage: cfdisk /dev/hda
[06:14] <BigMac> I am trying to set up the wifi on my computer, and I entered my ssid, but I have wep certification on this network because it is a windows network so which  type do I choose?(plain text or hexidecimal)
[06:14] <HP_Vue> Can you use yo record a screen>
[06:14] <dabaR> HP_Vue: sec.
[06:15] <proqesi> StriderZ: build-essential
[06:15] <StriderZ> ah
[06:15] <vivicrow> peeps: one of my hard drive got damaged before...I stopped moving a large file from one drive to another...
[06:15] <gortba_> ok...trying it now
[06:15] <vox754> SlicerDicer-: well, you are on Gentoo; I've read, you compile everything, so there must be 64-bit of everything.
[06:15] <vivicrow> peeps: and ubuntu report error msg about that hard drive while booting
[06:15] <StriderZ> proqesi: thanks
[06:15] <Dante123> okay....will look for it.....
[06:15] <Dante123> fnf
[06:15] <fnf> gortba_: Becareful with any drive partitioner though.
[06:15] <BigMac>  I am trying to set up the wifi on my computer, and I entered my ssid, but I have wep certification on this network because it is a windows network so which  type do I choose?(plain text or hexidecimal)
[06:15] <vivicrow> how come you guys can read stuffs here...msg is popped up so fast...lol
[06:16] <dabaR> !istanbul
[06:16] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[06:16] <vox754> fnf: he is a newbie, recommend him a graphical partitioning program like GParted.
[06:16] <Dante123> I found the youtube-dl.....but when i want to put it in the /usr/local/bin.....it says I can.....do I have to be logged in as root to do that...or can I give mysefl permission to be able to do that?
[06:16] <qmf_> i have another question.. i installed xdm so i have a graphical login.. but i still get the command line login
[06:16] <nalioth> vivicrow: you use the persons nick you are talking to, for one thing  :)
[06:16] <dabaR> HP_Vue: Got that?
[06:16] <qmf_> how do i change it to xdm?
[06:16] <espen> bigmac, do you have the key as text or hex?
[06:16] <HP_Vue> thanks dabaR
[06:17] <SlicerDicer-> vox754, yep on that box 99% of it is 64bit given what that box does its not needed to have 32bit the only 32bit thing on there is mplayer-32bit so I can use the win32codecs :)
[06:17] <dabaR> HP_Vue: http://www.google.com/search?q=capture%20screen%20ubuntu for other options...
[06:17] <fnf> Dante123: You may put it into your ~/bin, that needs no root permission.
[06:17] <HP_Vue> Thanks
[06:17] <robbie_cras1> what's the command to restart x?
[06:17] <espen> bigmac, a dext code is normally like 5 digits
[06:17] <fnf> Dante123: If the software is blocking all routes to youtube, the only way I know of is to access through a proxy though.
[06:17] <HP_Vue> But, if it is in the repos, then what is the teminal command?
[06:18] <dabaR> robbie_cras1: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart is what I use.
[06:18] <fnf> Dante123: youtube-dl is just a tool to download videos from youtube.
[06:18] <Dante123> fnf:  it says I can't put it in /bin either
[06:18] <stinger_au> how come i have install perl and i dont have a cgi-bin dir ?
[06:18] <BigMac> espen: my key is wep and the key is 8605859392, so which would I put?
[06:18] <dabaR> HP_Vue: to install istanbul from command line?
[06:18] <HP_Vue> yea
[06:18] <espen> bigmac, that is most likely a hex
[06:18] <dabaR> !aptitude
[06:19] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[06:19] <fnf> Dante123: Put it into your bin, which is /home/<your-name>/bin. bash will usually recognize the new executable. And make youtube-dl executable if necessary
[06:19] <mackinac> is there a setting in VLC for opening all in a single instance?
[06:19] <vivicrow> stinger_au: perl has no direct connection with cgi-bin dir
[06:19] <dabaR> HP_Vue: read that to learn to use it. "sudo aptitude install istanbul" is the command
[06:19] <Dante123> okay..sorry thought you meant bin off root
[06:19] <HP_Vue> thanjks'
[06:19] <joe_> I don't know if anyone can help me with this, (I have tried searching the unbuntu forum too), but when I boot, GRUB loads fine and I select ubuntu... but after selecting that, the ubuntu splashscreen does not load
[06:19] <stinger_au> vivicrow, i install webmin
[06:19] <robbie_cras1> thanks dabaR
[06:19] <stinger_au> vivicrow, and i can't run cachemgr.cgi
[06:19] <fnf> Dante123: But anywhere would suffice though.
[06:19] <vox754> SlicerDicer-: alright! short question, why is w32codecs 32-bit only?
[06:20] <stinger_au> vivicrow, this is what i get
[06:20] <stinger_au> vivicrow, Undefined subroutine &main::init_config called at ./squid-lib.pl line 5.
[06:20] <stinger_au> Compilation failed in require at ./cachemgr.cgi line 5.
[06:20] <Dante123> there is no bin in my home folder...do I make one?
[06:20] <fnf> Dante123: Sure.
[06:20] <nhan> hiiiiiiii
[06:20] <barbarella2> mackinac:yes, you can create a playlist
[06:20] <robbie_cras1> well, I guesss I'll just wait and see if restarting x remotely will work with this or not
[06:20] <robbie_cras1> thanks all
[06:21] <fnf> Dante123: Putting it into ~/bin allows you to invoke it anywhere.
[06:21] <dabaR> Dante123: mkdir ~/bin?
[06:22] <CppIsWeird> i have a folder that is used for apache, and i see that there is a user group called www-data. So i assumed adding the users i want to access it to that group would allow those users to modify the contents inside, however, it has not. how do i accomplish this?
[06:22] <Dante123> I just made it through the gui....is that okay...I'm a newb.....
[06:22] <mackinac> barbarella2, i mean for when i execute files that are associated with vlc. thanks anyhow
[06:22] <unop> CppIsWeird,  but does the www-data group own that directory?
[06:22] <Dante123> btw, I named it simply bin....does the squiggly just mean home folder?
[06:23] <fnf> Dante123: ~ means home folder.
[06:23] <CppIsWeird> no idea, how do i figure this out?
[06:23] <unop> CppIsWeird,  ls -ld /path/to/dir
[06:23] <fnf> Dante123: Can you access Youtube, or you can access youtube but cannot download the video ?
[06:24] <SilentDis> hello :)
[06:24] <fnf> !Hi
[06:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:24] <yuuki> Hi, is there a simple way to enable the /dev/fb0 device, the framebuffer?
[06:24] <CppIsWeird> it says "drwxr-xr-x 5 root root
[06:24] <CppIsWeird> "
[06:24] <Dante123> at school i cannot access you tube...but at home i can.....so if i download the file at home...then i can show it at school.....but cannot access you tube at school...
[06:24] <SilentDis> !pastebin
[06:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <dabaR> vox754: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75278.html
[06:24] <fnf> yuuki: If you specify vga=xxx as boot parameter or video=<framebuffer-driver>.
[06:25] <yuuki> I can't do it after boot time, fnf?
[06:25] <unop> CppIsWeird,  right, root owns that directory and therefore www-data has trouble -- sudo chown www-data.www-data /path/to/folder   (add -R if you want all files and subdirectories to be affected too)
[06:25] <dabaR> CppIsWeird: that means root owns the directory.
[06:25] <fnf> Dante123: Oh, so the software is blocking routes to youtube, in which case the only alternative is to use a proxy. That's inconvenient and (usually) slow though.
[06:25] <vox754> dabaR: thank you. I don't know why, but thank you.
[06:25] <yuuki> fnf, for example, what framebuffer is X using?
[06:25] <dabaR> unop: do you understand what that implies?
[06:25] <dabaR> vox754: read it.
[06:26] <unop> dabaR,  yes, i didnt start using unix yesterday :)
[06:27] <L4J> hey
[06:27] <L4J> I am trying to install a file.. its .rpm
[06:27] <L4J> im confused lolk
[06:28] <unop> L4J,  you should try installing the same package from source -- only use a .rpm as a last resort
[06:28] <L4J> Well, the file I am trying to install is Limewire..
[06:28] <proqesi> L4J: if there's no alternative, use alien
[06:28] <L4J> & its the only one I can find for Linux
[06:29] <unop> !frostwire | L4J
[06:29] <unop> ohh my
[06:29] <L4J> goodness
[06:29] <L4J> lol
[06:29] <kaso> im so lonley
[06:29] <unop> thats the biggest cleanup operation i have seen in ages
[06:29] <L4J> what was... frostwire?
[06:29] <Flannel> L4J: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:29] <unop> !frostwire | L4J
[06:30] <Flannel> L4J: it's a derivative (fully free) version of Limewire
[06:30] <unop> hmm, obotu sleeping tonight?
[06:30] <Flannel> unop: that was/is a netsplit, not a 'cleanup'
[06:30] <Flannel> ubotu is on the other half of the netsplit ;)
[06:30] <L4J> Does the layout resemble Limewire?
[06:30] <unop> Flannel, yea, i got the terminology wrong :)
[06:30] <Flannel> L4J: I imagine it's almost identical
[06:31] <proqesi> !hello
[06:31] <proqesi> hrm
[06:31] <fnf> Dante123: Most likely you'll need to open a new terminal, or try "echo $PATH" to see if your ~/bin is in it yet.
[06:31] <SilentDis> bluecat9, what feature, it might already be in the repos somewhere
[06:31] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[06:31] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:31] <dabaR> bluecat9: launchpad.net
[06:31] <bluecat9> ty
[06:31] <SilentDis> I'm having a problem building my drivers for a Ximeta Netdisk.  Would someone be so kind as to look this over and tell me where I'm going wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5174/
[06:31] <fnf> Dante123: Most likely you'll need to open a new terminal, or try "echo $PATH" to see if your ~/bin is in it yet.
[06:31] <L4J> How do I install this?
[06:32] <Flannel> L4J: read that page, it gives instructions
[06:32] <Dante123> fnf...it says...bash: ./youtube-dl.txt: No such file or directory
[06:32] <meshyf> !ndis-wrapper
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndis-wrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <therapy> PriceChild:  interesting :)
[06:32] <zyth> !ndiswrapper
[06:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:32] <meshyf> thanks Zyth
[06:32] <dabaR> Dante123: how about ls ~/bin, does that show the file?
[06:32] <fnf> Dante123: You will call the command as youtube-dl only, all commands in the bin folders can be invoked anywhere.
[06:32] <Dante123> fnf...it says..../usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[06:32] <zyth> meshyf, np
[06:32] <vox754> dabaR: thank you Alberto. Now tell me. What else has this problem? Something that you need to force under 64-bit. So far I think win32codecs, and flash.
[06:33] <L4J> what is the website?
[06:33] <unop> Flannel,  hmm, looks like it's not just this channel's affected by the "netsplit" .. quite a few others too -- could it be that the freenode staff regularly do this for some reason?
[06:33] <L4J> frostwire
[06:33] <fnf> Dante123: /home/Dante123/bin should be there though.
[06:33] <Flannel> L4J: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:33] <Dante123> yes, that does show the file...the ls command
[06:33] <dabaR> vox754: I do not have an exhaustive list, try google.
[06:33] <Flannel> unop: netsplits are serverwide.
[06:33] <vox754> meshyf, go #ndiswrapper
[06:33] <espen> well 6.30 am, guess it is time to go look for the teddy and the dummy, later folks.
[06:33] <dabaR> Dante123: sudo mv ~/bin/fileName /usr/local/bin
[06:33] <SilentDis> unop, netsplits happen.  they try to make them not happen, but they do anyway ;)
[06:33] <tanlaan> Hey, I installed frostwire through the debian package installer, but it says it cant find my JRE. How can I download the latest JRE from command line?
[06:34] <vox754> dabaR: ok.
[06:34] <fnf> Dante123: But that will not work anyway since you cannot access youtube. You need to use a proxy.
[06:34] <HP_Vue> Does istanbul work w/ KDE?
[06:34] <Flannel> !java | tanlaan
[06:34] <ubotu> tanlaan: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:34] <Dante123> i can access you tube right now....though......so won't it save the file locally..if I use it.....
[06:34] <unop> Dante123,  you could add this line to the end of your ~/.bashrc -- export PATH=~/bin:$PATH
[06:35] <dabaR> tanlaan: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[06:35] <fnf> Dante123: Alright, so "youtube-dl <URL>" should work.
[06:35] <CppIsWeird> unop: what does www-data.www-data mean?
[06:35] <unop> CppIsWeird,  its the user and group
[06:35] <Tyler> !kernel | Tyler
[06:35] <Flannel> CppIsWeird: its probably www-data:www-data, and it's user:group
[06:35] <SilentDis> I'm having a problem building my drivers for a Ximeta Netdisk.  Would someone be so kind as to look this over and tell me where I'm going wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5174/
[06:35] <fnf> Dante123: Or change to the directory in which youtube-dl lies and invoke "./youtube-dl" there
[06:36] <dabaR> CppIsWeird: it is www-data:www-data, if used with the chown command, it specifies to change the user and group to www-data.
[06:36] <unop> Flannel,  either or .. user.group or user:group
[06:36] <vox754> I'm gone; see you next weekend.
[06:36] <dabaR> unop: cool
[06:36] <newest> hey whens the repositorys going to be up again?
[06:36] <Flannel> newest: which repository is down?
[06:36] <newest> i dl aegis anti virus for linux, but now i cant find it, how do i install it?
[06:37] <Dante123> okay...i did what dabaR said and it is there now in usr/local/bin
[06:37] <SilentDis> newest, I'm having no problem hitting the main, multiverse, universe, and some custom ones.  what repo are you having issue with?
[06:37] <CppIsWeird> does a group have to have a user in it? like, why is there user www-data and group www-data??
[06:37] <dabaR> Dante123: try you<tab><tab>
[06:37] <Dante123> will try again
[06:37] <newest> ill check brb
[06:37] <zyth> SilentDis, what kernel ver do you have
[06:37] <bulmer> CppIsWeird: no need to have a group with user members
[06:37] <newest> when i use sudo aptitude command in terminal, it says its down
[06:37] <unop> CppIsWeird,  a user must exist in a group -- if that answers i
[06:38] <newest> ill pm you what it says exactly
[06:38] <unop> it
[06:38] <SilentDis> zyth, 2.6.17-11-generic
[06:38] <zyth> SilentDis, and did you specify kernel headers or linux-headers in that apt-get line?
[06:38] <CppIsWeird> ok then, how to i grant a group read/write/modify permissions on a directory?
[06:38] <fnf> CpplsWeird: chmod.
[06:38] <unop> CppIsWeird,  rather than clump all normal users in a common group like on windows .. its easier to seperate permissions and group membership if each user belongs to his unique group
[06:38] <SilentDis> zyth, kernel I believe.  ran the line with both, I am sure they're installed right though, as the envy script (builds nvidia drivers) runs w/o trouble
[06:39] <Dante123> okay...i have to have the txt at the end of the command...and right now it says it is retrieving the webpage
[06:39] <SilentDis> zyth, also, i had built these before the latest kernel update, again, without issue
[06:39] <zyth> SilentDis, apparently output tries to go to /usr/src, have you tried running the rpmbuild command w/ sudo?
[06:39] <fnf> Dante123: You may rename it to get rid of the .txt extension.
[06:39] <SilentDis> zyth, yes, gives error.  One moment, it's short, i'll paste it here
[06:40] <unop> CppIsWeird,  by default the user and group owners of a file are granted permissions -- if you want a non-owner/non-other user/group to have permissions .. you need something like acl
[06:40] <SilentDis> zyth, error: Failed to rename /usr/src/rpm/SPECS/rpm-spec.VfvCb3 to /usr/src/rpm/SPECS/rpm-spec.VfvCb3: Permission denied: No such file or directory
[06:40] <CppIsWeird> i dont know what any of this is
[06:40] <unop> CppIsWeird,  which user or group do you want to give permissions to?
[06:40] <CppIsWeird> is there a document thats not 100 pages that will explain the groups and user and permissions shit to me?
[06:40] <zyth> SilentDis, mkdir /usr/src/rpm ; mkdir /usr/src/rpm/SPECS
[06:40] <fnf> unop: I don't get it, isn't chmod enough ?
[06:41] <unop> fnf,  one sec .
[06:41] <SilentDis> zyth, I assume I'll need root for those, right?
[06:41] <zyth> SilentDis, then touch /usr/src/rpm/SPECS/rpm-spec.VfvCb3
[06:41] <zyth> yes
[06:41] <newest> weird i dl knocker with sudo aptitude install knocker, but where do i find knocker on my pc, and how do i run it????
[06:41] <zyth> im gonna try and build this
[06:41] <zyth> sec.
[06:41] <zyth> you on edgy w/ all current updates?
[06:41] <xavier___> hi .. i was wondering whether we can reduce the boot time for ubuntu to less than 30 seconds. any link or tips will do
[06:42] <SilentDis> zyth, yes, edgy with all current updates.
[06:42] <lineman60> i am haveing a wread porblem with my wireless card. it will randomly loose connections but the winblows box right next to it stays connected, (this laptop worked fine when it was running winblows) I am running NDIS wrapper, and the 64ed verson of ubuntu, any one have any ideas?
[06:42] <fnf> xavier___: Most of the initial boot time depends on the kernel. In my installation of Edgy server, booting into console mode takes less than 30 secs.
[06:42] <mackinac> xavier___, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Speed_up_boot
[06:43] <unop> CppIsWeird,  well, let's say you have a directory /dir .. there are 3 user/group permissions to /dir  -- the owner-user, the owner-group and the rest of the world (other) .. when assigning permissions to a file only these three users or groups are affected , does that make better sense now?
[06:43] <SilentDis> zyth, same errors as above.
[06:43] <zyth> SilentDis, and you ran  sudo apt-get install libc6-dev kernel-headers-2.6.17-11-generic alien rpm dpkg ?
[06:43] <SilentDis> zyth, yes, all those packages are installed properly
[06:43] <zyth> SilentDis, er sorry, linux-headers
[06:43] <varsendaggr> hey what is the package that i need to compile stuff   builod-essential?
[06:43] <SilentDis> zyth, I know what you meant ;)
[06:43] <vivicrow> what programs check hard drives at the startup???
[06:43] <L4J> uhh.. Frostwire isn't opening...
[06:44] <zyth> SilentDis, k, gimme a sec to try this here
[06:44] <fnf> vivicrow: fsck.
[06:44] <xavier___> ty u2
[06:44] <SilentDis> vivicrow, fsck
[06:44] <Dante123> fnf....looks like it is working....thanks a bunch......I am new to ubuntu.....but have done some stuff with linux before.....the distro i also use is puppy linux....and it that you are always root....makes things easy.....i know why they do it this way.....so users wont screw things up....but i prefer having full control
[06:44] <unop> fnf,  if you want to get a non-owning user or group to have permissions on a file by not opening up the file to the rest of the world -- the only way is to implement acls
[06:44] <SilentDis> zyth, nt, thanks for the help!
[06:44] <L4J> It is in the "Internet" sub-menu.. but it wont open when i click on it
[06:44] <vivicrow> so if there is something wrong with the hard drives, the ubuntu won't boot, right?
[06:44] <zyth> L4J, run it from a terminal and see if there are any erros.
[06:44] <Flannel> Dante123: there's absolutely no reason to run as root.  You DO have full control over whatever you want, by simply using sudo.
[06:44] <zyth> *erros
[06:45] <zyth> argh, ERRORS
[06:45] <L4J> how do I run it from the terminal?
[06:45] <SilentDis> Dante123, if you feel the absolute need to hit a root prompt, you can type sudo -i.  keep in mind, it's NOT recommended, you can sudo each command seperately just as easily
[06:45] <mackinac> xavier___, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Reduce_boot ... http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Get_rid_of_useless_modules_loaded_at_boot
[06:45] <fnf> unop: I read it, kind of ACL in NTFS.
[06:45] <unop> fnf,  pretty much the same yea
[06:45] <vivicrow> so what if i temporarily remove the fsck check at the startup....
[06:45] <SilentDis> vivicrow, not recommended.  why would you want to do that anyway?
[06:45] <xavier___> mackinac: that's is wht i wanted to ask .. those darn modules and daemons
[06:45] <CppIsWeird> unop: ok, so what i want to do, is create a user called like wwwaccess, a group called wwwaccess, and make wwwaccess the owner, then chmod the directory 770, and add the users i wish to have access to the directory to the wwwaccess group?
[06:46] <fnf> vivicrow: If you don't want it to check, modify the /etc/fsab.
[06:46] <Dante123> my problem is i prefer gui to command line.....and like control from gui....rather than having to do command line stuff......anyway...the video came through...but no audio?  any suggestions?
[06:46] <rio> where do you go to find out details about your pc? ie processor speed, memory installed, etc
[06:46] <vivicrow> SilenDis: i wanna check one of my 'broken' hard drive
[06:46] <vivicrow> SilentDis: i wanna check one of my 'broken' hard drive
[06:46] <SilentDis> vivicrow, then you don't want to disable it ;)  is that drive mounted now?
[06:46] <vivicrow> SilentDis: i can't boot in ubuntu with that hd plugged in
[06:47] <newest> how do i install aegis virus scanner after dl it from synaptic package manager???
[06:47] <fnf> Dante123: Make sure the amplifier is turned on, the volume is unmuted and a nice player ;). mplayer is good.
[06:47] <unop> CppIsWeird,  if you dont chmod that directory and give the wwwaccess user-group then the members of that wwwaccess group will not have permissions -- thats why i gave you the chmod command in this form -- sudo chmod wwwaccess.wwwaccess /path/to/folder
[06:47] <vivicrow> SilentDis: so, no, i only can use ubuntu without that hard drive plugged in
[06:47] <SilentDis> vivicrow, if you just attached it, it shouldn't automount.  where are you connecting it (what bus, sata ide etc, and what location)
[06:48] <CppIsWeird> unop" huh?
[06:48] <unop> CppIsWeird,  usually chmod user file  only sets the user ownership -- not the group ownership -- thats why we use  chmod user.group here
[06:48] <vivicrow> SilentDis: it's a sata...
[06:48] <CppIsWeird> hmm
[06:48] <zyth> SilentDis, have you tried http://code.ximeta.com/trac-ndas/wiki/UbuntuNightlyBuild by chance?
[06:48] <xavier___> does ubuntu 6.10 do parallel boot?
[06:48] <CppIsWeird> so i do chmod twice
[06:48] <yuuki> How can I find out which framebuffer X is writing to?
[06:48] <SilentDis> vivicrow, if linux refuses to boot PERIOD with the drive attached, the drive itself might be so damaged it's unusuable
[06:48] <Dante123> volume is up.....not muted....and it opens with totem movie player......mplayer won't open it....
[06:48] <CppIsWeird> but if its user/group/everyone else, how can you chmod a group?
[06:48] <SilentDis> zyth, not yet, I tend to stay away from nightlys.  did you have success with that?
[06:49] <unop> CppIsWeird,  nooo.. just once but ensuring that group ownership is changed
[06:49] <vivicrow> SilentDis: but it had no problem with gentoo...although one partition can't be mounted, but other parts of the drive are still work fine
[06:49] <newest> how do i install aegis virus scanner after dl it from synaptic package manager???
[06:49] <CppIsWeird> so i just wanna do chmod wwwaccess.wwwaccess 770 /var/www right?
[06:49] <fnf> Dante123: totem, even with gstreamer current cannot play flv files, AFAIK. You want a more current mplayer, or SVN is best to play flv videos. Even then it's not perfect.
[06:50] <SilentDis> vivicrow, have you tried dropping that drive in, then booting the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[06:50] <vivicrow> SilentDis: the ubuntu install cd is a live cd right?
[06:50] <yuuki> I did a modprobe vesafb, is there something else I need to do before I have access to the linux framebuffer?
[06:50] <SilentDis> vivicrow, the desktop one is, yes.
[06:50] <i386> if I were to file a bug with a patch for a driver in the kernel on ubuntu, what package would I file it against?
[06:50] <Flannel> vivicrow: the Desktop CD, yes.
[06:50] <unop> CppIsWeird,  errm, ouch .. sorry sorry my bad .. i'm just tired -- for chmod you need 770 yes .. for chown www-data.www-data
[06:50] <Dante123> fnf.....picture is there...no audio in movie player......in mplayer i get an error that says error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[06:50] <vivicrow> SilentDis: yup, i tried...that was where the problem began
[06:51] <unop> CppIsWeird,  so,  sudo chmod 770 /path/to/file
[06:51] <CppIsWeird> then add the users i want to have access to the files to the group wwwaccess?
[06:51] <vivicrow> SilentDis: i couldn't install ubuntu with that hard driver attached
[06:51] <Dante123> svn what is that?
[06:51] <proqesi> what's a hard driver?
[06:51] <zyth> SilentDis, http://code.ximeta.com/trac-ndas/wiki/Ubuntu <-- debs for 5.10/6.06/6.10
[06:51] <fnf> Dante123: You may select another video output mode in Preferences of gmplayer.
[06:51] <SilentDis> zyth, lol 404 when I hit http://code.ximeta.com/dev/current/ubuntu6.10/
[06:51] <vivicrow> SilentDis: really want to know if the hard drive is really physically damaged
[06:51] <proqesi> svn is subversion
[06:51] <unop> CppIsWeird,  yes, provided you have chowned the directory properly yes, thats what you do
[06:52] <zyth> SilentDis, check the last url I posted
[06:52] <fnf> Dante123: The stock mplayer of Ubuntu Edgy should play flv though, your installation might not be in a good state.
[06:52] <i386> Dante123: are you on PPC?
[06:52] <SilentDis> zyth, I'm there now, no good, no 6.10 builds
[06:52] <zyth> SilentDis, the top of the page says its for all vers
[06:53] <Dante123> no.....ibm with intel centrino
[06:53] <zyth> SilentDis, http://code.ximeta.com/trac-ndas/wiki/Ubuntu6.10
[06:53] <Dante123> fresh install......ran automatix 2......all else works.....
[06:53] <SilentDis> zyth, that's where I am now.  No 2.6.17-11, hence why I was trying to build it :P
[06:53] <niles> hi
[06:54] <niles> what is the command to have my video card drivers use vesa ?
[06:54] <Dante123> i am getting the picture...it si the sound that is not there......
[06:54] <zyth> SilentDis, ahh.  hm.  Yeah I get the same errors as you, looks like rpmbuild is having issues
[06:54] <fnf> Dante123: That may be the reason, automatix does some non-safe things.
[06:54] <Dante123> what is svn?
[06:54] <niles> i pulled my hard drive out of a PC using ati drivers,  and now i need to switch to vesa.
[06:54] <cables> When I switch users, my touchpad won't work in the second account, but works again going to the first account. I don't have this problem with my USB mouse. Against which package should I file this bug?
[06:54] <alvincev> Does anyone know where I would go to allow anyone to be able to eject a CD-ROM, not just the root.
[06:54] <SilentDis> zyth, there's a comment on that last page stating the need for the 1.0.4 version for edgy.  I'm trying to find a DIY version of that kernel now :P
[06:55] <Madpilot> niles, AFAIK, linux isn't going to care which drivers a HDD needs. It should just work.
[06:55] <fnf> Dante123: Subversion, usually means that the latest version from source.
[06:55] <zyth> anyways bedtime
[06:55] <niles> Madpilot:  well it doesent.  im runing off knoppix now.  yet when i boot off my hard drive with ubuntu on it,   I get an error loading X
[06:55] <zyth> night, good luck SilentDis, sorry I couldnt help more
[06:56] <SilentDis> zyth, no troubles.  at least it's not just me, and you made me notice that little edit in there.  I'm on the right track now at least, thanks :)
[06:56] <Madpilot> niles, error loading X probably doesn't have anything to do w/ HDD drivers - X is the graphics engine, more or less
[06:56] <vivicrow> just notice that ubuntu skip file system check if you run on battery power...any switch you can use to skip fs check on a regular desktop??
[06:56] <fnf> Dante123: The stock mplayer is pretty old now, newest mplayer supports many more video formats.
[06:57] <cables> Whenever I create a new user, its panels are screwed up: it only has one, blank panel at the top. It didn't used to do this when I first installed Ubuntu. Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening?
[06:57] <fnf> vivicrow: Do you want to temporarily skip the check or not check the partitions at all ?
[06:57] <Flannel> vivicrow: `sudo touch /fastboot`
[06:57] <diazepa1> does anyone know what this could mean?  Google shows zero results.  I restarted dbus and got the following message "/etc/dbus-1/event.d/70system-tools-backends exited with return code 1"
[06:57] <vivicrow> fnf: temporarily
[06:57] <spinexorz> i wondered if someone could give a hand with a strange issue im having, my fglrx drivers keep getting uninstalled
[06:57] <spinexorz> sometimes theyre just gone...
[06:57] <niles> Madpilot: i get no picture when i put an ubuntu disc to reinstall into the new PC i migrated my video card to.
[06:57] <vivicrow> flannel: thanks ;)
[06:57] <fnf> vivicrow: Ctrl-C when fsck-ing, not recommended though.
[06:57] <spinexorz> and i end up with mesa
[06:58] <CppIsWeird> unop: now i dont have any permission to even go into the directory
[06:58] <newest> omg.... how on earth do i run aegis virus scanner lol, ive just dl it from synaptic package manager, but now i cant find it!!
[06:58] <Madpilot> niles, with an Ubuntu livecd? Odd...
[06:58] <Flannel> fnf: making /fastboot works
[06:58] <niles> no
[06:58] <vivicrow> fnf: thanks :)
[06:58] <Madpilot> newest, why bother with a virus scanner?
[06:58] <niles> well yes i guess its a live cd too
[06:58] <unop> CppIsWeird,  are you member of that group wwwaccess ??
[06:58] <fnf> Flannel: That works only once, isn't it ?
[06:58] <niles> but i have no problems with knoppix.
[06:58] <CppIsWeird> i did chown wwwaccess.wwwaccess; chmod 770 /var/www; wwwaccess and the other users are in the usergroup wwwaccess
[06:58] <duckvenge> anyone here a grub expert? I want to boot my PC into a ext3 partition that holds the Edgy live cd... I want to run by Grub settings by you all
[06:59] <andres_> that's a gnome/gdm issue
[06:59] <Flannel> fnf: right, that's what he wants
[06:59] <andres_> who helps me?
[06:59] <unop> CppIsWeird,  is your user memeber of that group?
[06:59] <fnf> Flannel: Alright, that's new to me, thanks.
[06:59] <duckvenge> anyone notice anything wrong with the following? initrd          /casper/initrd.gz looptype=squashfs loop=/casper/filesystem.squashfs cdroot
[06:59] <gumpish> If I'm formatting a drive that will never be used in a windows environment, what type of disklabel shold i use on it?
[07:00] <vivicrow> flannel: i just read that in checkfs.sh ;)
[07:00] <CppIsWeird> unop: yes
[07:00] <unop> CppIsWeird,  check the ownership again -- ls -ld /var/www
[07:00] <duckvenge> I've not seen looptype used with Grub except for Gentoo... so I am not sure whether I am about to screw up my MBR
[07:01] <andres_> THAT'S A GNOME/GDM ISSUE
[07:01] <CppIsWeird> wwwaccess wwwaccess
[07:01] <andres_> WHO HELPS ME?
[07:01] <Madpilot> ubotu, repeat | andres_
[07:01] <ubotu> andres_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:01] <CppIsWeird> "drwxrwx--- wwwaccess wwwaccess ..."
[07:01] <spinexorz> i wondered if someone could give a hand with a strange issue im having, my fglrx drivers keep getting uninstalled.
[07:01] <unop> CppIsWeird,  ok, please use a !pastebin and paste the output of - whoami; id
[07:02] <Flannel> !ask | andres_
[07:02] <ubotu> andres_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:02] <CppIsWeird> root
[07:02] <CppIsWeird> ok
[07:02] <CppIsWeird> i have two terminals open
[07:02] <CppIsWeird> i am doing all of this as root
[07:02] <CppIsWeird> but i am trying access and such as the logged in user
[07:02] <zero88> can someone tell me how to install flash for mozilla, i know its a simple apt-get command because i got it to work for dapper, but just installed edgy
[07:02] <andres_> who knows of this error:    there was an error loading the theme human             can't open file/usr/share/gdm/themes/human/human.xml
[07:03] <CppIsWeird> want me to do whoami; id as the user i wish to grant access?
[07:03] <unop> CppIsWeird,  errm, run these commands as your user
[07:03] <CppIsWeird> ok
[07:03] <unop> CppIsWeird,  indeed :)
[07:03] <vivicrow> andres_: you deleted the theme?
[07:03] <andres_> NOP
[07:03] <arnducky> zero88: the installer is *&#ed if you are running 64-bit
[07:03] <Flannel> zero88: it's the -plugin package
[07:03] <andres_> YES
[07:04] <superlou> does anyone have issues with an SiS900 Lan?
[07:04] <CppIsWeird> unop: if the information you wish to attain is if the wwwaccess group is listed there, then yes it is.
[07:04] <superlou> problems with the PHY transciever?
[07:04] <zero88> flannel where do i get it
[07:04] <zero88> arnducky ya i know i tried the ubuntuguide wich didnt work
[07:04] <unop> CppIsWeird,  and that would be for 'id' right?
[07:04] <CppIsWeird> yes
[07:04] <arnducky> zero88: otherwise, use the instructions on the flashplayer site -- download, unzip, make executeable (chmod +x [name of flashplayer installer here] ) and execute (run it in a *terminal*).
[07:05] <andres_> UBOTU: DO YOU KNOWS THIS ERROR?
[07:05] <CppIsWeird> oh wait aminute, i think i may have red that wrong
[07:05] <proqesi> andres_: ubotu doesn't speak *that* well
[07:05] <cables> Whenever I create a new user, the user's gnome-panels are messed up. There's only one panel at the top, and it's blank. Does anyone know why this might be happening?
[07:05] <CppIsWeird> what does
[07:05] <zero88> arnducky just seems liek too much work, why doesnt it work anymore, it worked for 6.06
[07:05] <CppIsWeird> * 'id' do?
[07:05] <cables> andres_, ubotu's a bot...
[07:06] <andres_> CABLES: OK
[07:06] <asc_> Could somebody remind me where apt's list of package data (name, description, installed state, etc.) is?
[07:06] <andres_> SORRY
[07:06] <cables> !caps | andres_
[07:06] <ubotu> andres_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:06] <CppIsWeird> unop: i think i read that wrong, what does 'id' do?
[07:06] <unop> CppIsWeird,  the id or groups command list your user's groups membership
[07:06] <vivicrow> andres_: i once deleted the human theme, as i dont really use it...but gdm refuse to load after that
[07:06] <arnducky> zero88: note -- the fault lies with Adobe (and they do this all the time), and we all just either find workarounds to install older/non-broken packages or wait for them to fix.   It's proprietary so you can't build it from source.
[07:07] <proqesi> vivicrow: you could also try xdm
[07:07] <darweth> Anyone know the name of the Alsa dev package in Ubuntu?I need to compile mplayer with Alsa.
[07:07] <unop> asc_,  you mean the file? or the command to list that?
[07:07] <zero88> arnducky ah i see,well i jsut found this guide on how to install it so im going to try it,and let you know the oucome
[07:07] <proqesi> vivicrow: if you really don't want fluff
[07:07] <vivicrow> proqesi: i fixed that problem long time ago...can't even remember how i did that
[07:07] <asc_> unop: the file on the disk.
[07:07] <jbinder> darweth: it is supposed to come with alsa
[07:07] <CppIsWeird> i dunno, but i do see the wwwaccess lsited there
[07:07] <darweth> jbinder: not the dev file
[07:07] <unop> asc_,  errm, its one of them in /var/lib/dpkg i think
[07:07] <jbinder> oh
[07:08] <arnducky> zero88: it only takes 5 minutes from a default Ubuntu desktop system (has unzipper installed, etc.) -- if that's too much work...
[07:08] <admbe> Why does ATI suck
[07:08] <unop> CppIsWeird,  see if this makes a difference -- sudo chmod 774 /var/www
[07:08] <andres_> vivecrow: as i solvet it?
[07:08] <asc_> unop: Ah, thanks.  That's the directory I'm looking for.
[07:09] <mathieu> does a default ubuntu dapper allow the use of beryl window manager without extra packages ?
[07:09] <arnducky> admbe: I'd be glad to discuss that with you in another channel  /JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic if you like  (re: ATI)
[07:09] <andres_>  vivicrow: as i solvet it?
[07:09] <unop> mathieu,  if you are asking if beryl is installed by default on dapper, then no
[07:09] <CppIsWeird> unop: yes
[07:10] <vivicrow> andres_: i can't remember how i solve that problem at all, right now, if you can't find that file physically, you should try to get the one and put it back
[07:10] <unop> CppIsWeird, so can you do this now - ls -l /var/www
[07:12] <SlicerDicer-> where do I go for feisty fawn support?
[07:12] <asc_> horay, like the shambling dead synaptic returns to life
[07:12] <andres_> vivicrow: ups. as I can obtain it?
[07:12] <unop> SlicerDicer-,  #ubuntu+1
[07:12] <Frankiebaby1986> Hello All, I am a new Ubuntu user, trying to get my volume controls working properly (mixer mixed up) on an Inspiron 9300. Does anyone have any experience with this?
[07:12] <vivicrow> andres_: yup, i can send it to you if you want
[07:12] <CppIsWeird> unop: what about it?
[07:12] <mzuverink> what is the benefits and the daw backs of running an ident server?
[07:12] <hyarion_> has anyone else had problems with Ubuntu locking up? Everything freezes (except for my mouse) usually 2-3 times a day
[07:13] <vivicrow> andres_: no, wait, i don't have that folder on my system...
[07:13] <unop> CppIsWeird,  you said "yes" .. i'm not too sure what you meant there .. what did you say yes to?
[07:15] <juano__> can anyone help me with an itunes ipod ?
[07:15] <jadacyrus> okay I got three unsuspecting people here in the dark watching a movie on my brothers computer. I am ssh-d in and I want to make firefox load goat.cx on his big glowing monitor. WHen i try to launch epiphany http://goat.cx it says cannot open desktop: (null)?
[07:16] <vivicrow> how ubuntu automount your usb drive?
[07:16] <mzuverink> juano__, try one of the following, amorok, banshe or gtkpod(my fav)
[07:17] <andres_> vivirow: ok
[07:17] <andres_> 
[07:17] <andres_> ok good I have the folder until themes but other no
[07:17] <juano__> mzuverink: yep ive tried them all, i can mount my ipod ,etc, put things in it, its a mobile phone with itunes actually a motorola rokr, ive tried every app nothing makes the itunes on that phone sync with ubuntu
[07:17] <vivicrow> andres...yup, i don't have humen folder either
[07:17] <juano__> mzuverink: ive tried even crossover with iTunes
[07:17] <juano__> mzuverink: no good
[07:18] <jadacyrus> Anyone know how to open a window on my computer from SSH
[07:18] <jadacyrus> on another remote computer i mean
[07:18] <darweth> Dumb question.  How do I load nvidia-settings passively so that my color settings take effect logging into Gnome.  I know it is something like --nvidia-settings in session startup, but that is not it cuz it doesn't work.  What is the correct?
[07:18] <juano__> mzuverink: i need the iTunesDB to sync with ubuntu somehow
[07:18] <mzuverink> juano__, cant help u w/ that, sorry
[07:18] <juano__> mzuverink: ok, thanks anyway
[07:19] <Gator> hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 6.10 but GRUB doesn't load on startup
[07:19] <jadacyrus> So basically im asking how I open a gui program on a remote computer via SSH?
[07:19] <kaso> So could someone have another go at helping me de-code these error and working out a fix? http://www.pastey.net/6404 && http://www.pastey.net/6407
[07:19] <mzuverink> pro/cons of running an ident server anyone?
[07:19] <thekidrio> heyas gator hrmm you always have the oddest probs :P
[07:19] <vivicrow> andres_,may i know why you got that problem?
[07:19] <Gator> yeha >_>
[07:19] <mabus> What type of filesystem should I have on my usb key if i want it to be a disk that I can boot up in a vmware virtual machine?
[07:19] <mabus> With ubuntu on the vm
[07:19] <Gator> I'm guessing it's because I used a floppy to disable grub earlier
[07:19] <thekidrio> check the boot order in your bios, sometimes that causes that
[07:19] <cables> Gater, does the system boot? Or do you mean that the menu doesn't show up?
[07:19] <andres_> ajaa ok but you do not know as I can obtain that file?
[07:19] <thekidrio> hrmm, well yeah that could be it haha
[07:20] <Gator> My computer turns on, by it boots directly into XP
[07:20] <thekidrio> gator, check your bios, look to see if you have hardware boot order
[07:20] <cables> Gator, hold down the escape key when you boot, and see if the menu shows up. If it does, that means it's fixable.
[07:20] <thekidrio> then see if you have HD boot priorty
[07:20] <Gator> uh
[07:20] <cables> thekidrio, his computer boots from the HD... it just doesn't boot the right OS.
[07:20] <thekidrio> or is it one HD
[07:21] <thekidrio> cable yeah i know :)
[07:21] <Gator> let me switch to a different computer for mirc
[07:21] <thekidrio> but you can force the hd boot if its a sep drive
[07:21] <thekidrio> and re conf grub
[07:21] <mzuverink> Gator, make sure yuou can boot usb too
[07:21] <Gator> why?
[07:21] <thekidrio> if its a partition on the same hd its not as easy a fix
[07:21] <cables> thekidrio, Gator, are XP and Windows on the same drive?
[07:21] <mzuverink> arent you trying to boot usb?
[07:21] <thekidrio> cables that is the question hehe
[07:21] <Gator> you mean xp and ubuntu?
[07:22] <thekidrio> mzuverink: no he is not hehe
[07:22] <cables> Gator, I mean XP and Ubuntu... sorry
[07:22] <andres_> vivicrow: because actualize of dapper to edgy and when reinitiates the PC did not load the graphs to me and it began in console form
[07:22] <Gator> lol
[07:22] <Gator> yes, they are
[07:22] <Gator> wait
[07:22] <Gator> no =.=
[07:22] <Asc___> jadacyrus: somebody already answer your question?  I got disconnected
[07:22] <cables> Gator, in that case, it's not what thekidrio thinks it is.
[07:22] <thekidrio> different physical drives?
[07:22] <Gator> XP and Ubuntu are on different physical drives
[07:22] <cables> thekidrio... he says they're on the same drive.
[07:22] <cables> damn
[07:22] <cables> i misunderstood
[07:22] <thekidrio> cables:  it is what i think it is hehe i was looking for an easy fix
[07:22] <Gator> I answered wrong
[07:22] <Gator> it's late >_>
[07:22] <cables> thekidrio :) sorry 'bout that
[07:22] <thekidrio> its ok
[07:22] <thekidrio> either way it was what i think hehe
[07:23] <thekidrio> its just one is an easy fix
[07:23] <andres_> vivicrow: soon procedi to unload gdm and me aparecio this error.
[07:23] <thekidrio> one is tougher
[07:23] <thekidrio> if you can force boot to the linux install
[07:23] <thekidrio> then you can reinstall/reconf the boot loader
[07:23] <thekidrio> if its same HD then you have to use a boot disk/live cd
[07:23] <Gator> uh, brb
[07:23] <vivicrow> andres_: have you tried to reinstall the dgm and dgm-themes?
[07:23] <thekidrio> not tough either way if you have a working os though
[07:24] <Gator> okay
[07:24] <Gator> so reboot the other one and hold escape?
[07:24] <andres_> vivicrow: no
[07:25] <friedtofu> hm
[07:25] <cables> Gator, i think he was right... you don't need to hold Esc.
[07:25] <Gator> what did he say to do?
[07:25] <thekidrio> force the boot to the linux HD
[07:25] <cables> Gator, when it boots, choose the other HD from the boot list.
[07:25] <Frankiebaby1986> anyone use Ubuntu on an I9300?
[07:25] <friedtofu> mplayer has out of sync problems on videos that i play that has silence in the first 10 seconds... anyone know how to fix? (its AAC audio format in the mkv file)
[07:25] <vivicrow> andres_: try that and see if it works
[07:25] <thekidrio> if you can choose that in the bios
[07:25] <Gator> you mean change the HD in the bios?
[07:25] <Gator> okay then
[07:25] <thekidrio> yah
[07:26] <thekidrio> cables, what is the esc way?
[07:26] <thekidrio> i have always used seperate drives myself
[07:26] <asc> friedtofu: You can change the sync manually for a quick fix
[07:26] <friedtofu> asc: how do i do that in mplayer?
[07:27] <Gator> whoa
[07:27] <Gator> when booting from this HD grub loaded
[07:27] <ramy> I built a new kernel, but when I try to create the initrd image, i get this error : yaird error: unsupported device required: dm-0 (fatal)
[07:27] <asc> friedtofu: Just a second, I'll try and find the keys.
[07:27] <ramy> any clues ?
[07:28] <thekidrio> gator hehe yeah thats the easy way
[07:28] <thekidrio> not the cool way
[07:28] <thekidrio> cables way is cooler
[07:28] <asc> friedtofu: Looks like keypad + and -
[07:28] <cables> thekidrio, not really... it wouldn't have worked
[07:28] <andres_> vivicrow: as he is the command to write it in the console? I am new in this, sorry!
[07:28] <friedtofu> hm
[07:28] <friedtofu> really?..
[07:28] <friedtofu> i'mma try
[07:28] <cables> thekidrio, Grub was on the other drive... holding Esc. wouldn't do anything.
[07:28] <Gator> I'm going to see if booting xp from the grub menu works
[07:28] <friedtofu> asc: you do this when the video plays?
[07:28] <amonbish> Hi
[07:29] <asc> friedtofu: It's kind of a pain to sync it like that, but sometimes you just gotta. :p
[07:29] <asc> friedtofu: yes
[07:29] <unop> CppIsWeird,  you therre?
[07:29] <Gator> Okay, thank you all for you help for the past 7 hours...
[07:29] <Gator> >_>
[07:29] <Gator> I finally got Ubuntu working again
[07:29] <Gator> and now, to pass out in bed
[07:29] <cables> Gator, what were your other werid problems? I'm curious
[07:30] <Gator> cya
[07:30] <Gator> >_>
[07:30] <cables> Gator, fine, won't delay you, bye
[07:30] <friedtofu> asc: damn... yeah i guess, worth it for a 20 minute anime...
[07:30] <Gator> uh, /bin/sh: can't access tty;job control turned off
[07:30] <friedtofu> asc: is there a way to return it to default after viewing the file?
[07:30] <Gator> about 7 errors sprouting from that
[07:30] <asc> friedtofu: I have an entire season of GitS that's 200 ms out of sync :p
[07:30] <andres_> vivicrow: as he is the command to write it in the console? I am new in this,  sorry!
[07:30] <friedtofu> asc: so i dont have to manually keep pressing the - button... heh
[07:30] <Gator> partition problems, grub problems, etc
[07:31] <friedtofu> wow, for ALL of the files? :) haha dont have to change it much then
[07:31] <Gator> and now, to sleep
[07:31] <Gator> =.=
[07:31] <thekidrio> cables: hehe you are are cool fella, ore lady i suppose cables is not a mans name or a ladies name
[07:31] <asc> friedtofu: You have to set it each time you play an out-of-sync file, it won't save by default.
[07:31] <cables> thekidrio, I'm a guy... that was my grandfather's nickname for me... :)
[07:32] <tkooda> anyone got any idea why dapper's `screen` can't display ansi (?) chars from `bmon`?  (but `bmon` in an rxvt term looks fine)
[07:32] <friedtofu> asc: ah, thats good
[07:32] <thekidrio> hehe it is a cool nickname
[07:32] <cld2> is there a meta package I can install to get everything I need to compile software?
[07:32] <friedtofu> asc: thanks for the info, i couldnt find that option under preferences
[07:32] <thekidrio> cld2: depends on what you mean by compile
[07:33] <vivicrow> andres_: sorry, i was afk
[07:33] <thekidrio> if you mean compile stuff from source for use in the system?
[07:33] <thekidrio> i think thats build-essential
[07:33] <cld2> thekidrio: yes.
[07:33] <asc> friedtofu: I think I found it by pressing keys randomly during normal use.  The mplayer man page is a nightmare.
[07:33] <thekidrio> my spelling is off
[07:33] <thekidrio> one sec
[07:33] <cables> !compile | cld2
[07:33] <ubotu> cld2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:33] <jbinder> yeah
[07:33] <thekidrio> hehe
[07:33] <jbinder> the mplayer man page is insane
[07:33] <thekidrio> btw, i rebound my windows key to terminal haha
[07:33] <thekidrio> i thought that was nice
[07:33] <vivicrow> andres_: try 'apt-get install gdm edgy-dgm-themes'
[07:34] <vivicrow> andres_: sry, typo
[07:34] <vivicrow> andres_: try 'apt-get install gdm edgy-dgm-themes'
[07:34] <cld2> thekidrio: thanks.
[07:34] <cld2> cables: thanks :)
[07:34] <friedtofu> asc: best settings for use on mplayer? :) haha, what video output is best to be used? x11 gl2?
[07:34] <tcpip> i need help installing advik 'lan card' on edgy.. its not getting detected
[07:35] <thekidrio> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:35] <tkooda> how can I get `screen` to display ansi chars?
[07:35] <asc> friedtofu: I always end up using xv.  X11 might also work okay.
[07:35] <vivicrow> andres_: there are people who had similar problem like you do after upgrading from dapper to edgy
[07:35] <thekidrio> that is not ALL of them
[07:35] <thekidrio> but its most of them
[07:36] <RawSewage> where is the php directory.  I want to make a shell script that uses php
[07:36] <tcpip> thedirio: that cmd is for me?
[07:36] <thekidrio> remember you can tab complete apt-get install so type build and just hit tab 3 or so times
[07:36] <RawSewage> whats the #! line for using php in a shell script
[07:36] <friedtofu> asc: strange, even though i set it to 4000 ms, it still starts off the same...
[07:36] <thekidrio> no tcpip sorry
[07:36] <thekidrio> that was for cld2
[07:36] <asc> friedtofu: hum, try setting it after the sound starts?
[07:37] <thekidrio> have your searched google for advik card tcpip?
[07:37] <andres_> vivicrow: is apt-get install gdm edgy-DGM-themes OR apt-get install gdm edgy-GDM-themes?
[07:37] <friedtofu> asc: to delay it would be + and to make it faster would be -?
[07:37] <vivicrow> andres_: apt-get install gdm edgy-gdm-themes
[07:38] <tcpip> thekidrio: but none are related to ubuntu
[07:38] <andres_> VIVECROW: OKA
[07:38] <andres_> sorry
[07:38] <asc> friedtofu: That's a good question.
[07:38] <andres_> vivecrow: oka
[07:39] <friedtofu> asc: blah, i set it to 14000ms and it still sounds off at the start of the video
[07:39] <thekidrio> tcpip: hrmm, i assume you added ubuntu to your search?
[07:39] <tcpip> yup
[07:39] <asc> friedtofu: Hm, it looks as though what it does is change the video in relation to the audio - so '-' should move the video backward, and + should move it forward.
[07:39] <thekidrio> btw ubuntu has a booth down below me if you want me to yell at them
[07:39] <thekidrio> i am at a linux conference
[07:40] <asc> friedtofu: Is it off by the same ammount as with 0 ms?
[07:40] <tcpip> thekidrio: i aint going anywhere
[07:40] <tcpip> yell as much
[07:40] <RawSewage> What's the path to php
[07:40] <RawSewage> !#/path/to/php
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path/to/php - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <RawSewage> anyone know the path to php
[07:40] <jbinder> !php
[07:40] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:40] <thekidrio> !php
[07:40] <cables> RawSewage: "whereis php"
[07:40] <RawSewage> cables, ty
[07:41] <friedtofu> asc: no matter what setting it is, its the same out of sync -.-
[07:41] <andres_> vivicrow: ready, and now?
[07:41] <jbinder> RawSewage: /etc/php5?
[07:41] <jbinder> /etc/php&
[07:41] <jbinder> /etc/php/*
[07:41] <andres_> vivicrow: restart?
[07:41] <jbinder> asdf;kjasdf
[07:41] <jbinder> /etc/php*/
[07:41] <RawSewage> jbinder, ty
[07:41] <friedtofu> asc: as in, there is no pause whatsoever, and will immediately play the sound
[07:41] <thekidrio> /etc/php#/php#.conf
[07:41] <asc> friedtofu: Eh, let me check if it works with an AC3 file of mine
[07:41] <jbinder> lol
[07:41] <friedtofu> asc: its AAC
[07:41] <RawSewage> oh
[07:41] <friedtofu> hm... but i guess they can be synonymous?
[07:42] <vivicrow> andres_: you can type /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:42] <jbinder> roflmao... microsoft.com has "organise" on their site
[07:42] <jbinder> organise has a Z!
[07:42] <asc> friedtofu: Um.  I don't know.
[07:42] <asc> andbody know if AAC == AC3?
[07:42] <vivicrow> andres_: if you are not running any desktop system
[07:42] <asc> *anybody
[07:42] <cables> asc, they don't
[07:42] <cables> asc, AAC != AC3
[07:42] <asc> righto.
[07:43] <friedtofu> hm.. this is also a .mkv file if that makes any difference
[07:43] <friedtofu> h264 video encoded AAC audio output
[07:43] <asc> friedtofu: have you tried playing in in vlc?
[07:43] <friedtofu> asc: it'll crash
[07:44] <andres_> like thus? explain
[07:44] <ferret_0567> Does anybody use a Intel Core 2 Duo motherboard with Ubuntu 6.10? I want to buy a Intel Core 2 Duo motherboard, so I want to know how well one of those works with Linux.
[07:44] <andres_> vivicrow like thus? explain
[07:44] <cables> ferret_0567, Core 2 Duo is a motherboard?
[07:44] <asc> friedtofu: Heh, ouch.  File might be slightly damaged.
[07:44] <friedtofu> asc: as in, i open the file, vlc pops up for a split second, and then it closes
[07:44] <friedtofu> asc: works in mplayer, and i got it off bittorrent so.. its not corrupted
[07:45] <Anician> Hi
[07:45] <Anician> I would like some with setting up my Internet connection with Ubuntu.
[07:45] <vivicrow> andres_: type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' in your console
[07:45] <cables> Anician, what type of connection? Wireless or wired?
[07:45] <Anician> Wired
[07:45] <ferret_0567> No, I want to know how well a Intel Core 2 Duo motherboard works with Ubuntu 6.10 Linux
[07:45] <cables> ferret_0567, I assume you mean Core 2 Duo processor?
[07:46] <friedtofu> hm.. i use Hyperthreading so i guess it should be the same? :/
[07:46] <friedtofu> sigh... h264 or x264 takes a toll on the cpu... haha
[07:46] <cables> Anician, are you using a DSL modem?
[07:46] <asc> friedtofu: I have one remaining possibility - the 'acidrip' program is for DVDs, but it seems to be able to transcode any file mplayer can play (I haven't tested this extensively).  You could try using it to transcode the file to mpeg/mp3, which works with everything.
[07:46] <andres_> vivicrow: ready
[07:46] <vivicrow> andres_: press enter of of course
[07:47] <Anician> I'm not sure
[07:47] <vivicrow> andres_: press enter
[07:47] <Anician> Most probably
[07:47] <andres_> vivicrow: ready
[07:47] <Warsaw> i have logs of my server sent to 2 different servers for redundant logs in case one goes down. now i have it working and all but i would need a script that will check both the local and remote logs and compare them to see if some files might be bigger than on the other server
[07:47] <ferret_0567> Yeah, a Intel Core 2 Duo CPU compatible motherboard paired with a Intel Core 2 Duo. I am wondering how well that combination works with Ubuntu 6.10 Linux.
[07:47] <Anician> I use the Aztech ADSL ethernet machine
[07:47] <cables> Anician, DSL, cable, dialup?
[07:47] <Warsaw> basicly i need a script to check files size from a local and remote location and that it will pick the biggest file
[07:47] <vivicrow> andres_: still has the same problem?
[07:47] <Warsaw> in case that one got down and was not updating logs anymore
[07:47] <tcpip> !pkg
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <ferret_0567> What DVD ripping program do you recommend?
[07:47] <mackinac> is feisty on track to release on schedule [as of now] ?
[07:48] <cables> mackinac, check out #ubuntu+1
[07:48] <ardchoille> ferret_0567: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net
[07:48] <andres_> i will restar my pc. to see
[07:48] <andres_> vivicrow: i'll restart my pc. to see
[07:48] <friedtofu> asc: i'm not really familiar with .mkv files... theyre like avi in the fact that they're containers, but i dont know if acidrip will work for it
[07:48] <vivicrow> andres_: okay
[07:48] <mackinac> :\
[07:48] <friedtofu> asc: but then i guess i'll try anyhow
[07:48] <ardchoille> ferret_0567: It will need some repos, but the installer will let you know what you need before completing the install. The deps are in the repos.
[07:49] <cables> mackinac, #ubuntu+1 is for Feisty questions
[07:49] <mackinac> i know
[07:49] <andres_> vivicrow see you later
[07:49] <mackinac> im not running it or anything
[07:49] <vivicrow> andres_: see you...sry can't help you more
[07:49] <cables> mackinac, they're the most likely to know.
[07:49] <asc> friedtofu: Life is an adventure.  I'm short on mkvs, but I'm going to try with a .ogm
[07:49] <seravitae_> hm how can i stop the xlogin/x stuff on bootup
[07:49] <seravitae_> init.r/?
[07:49] <vivicrow> ferret_0567: dvdbackup + transcode
[07:49] <mackinac> cables, ty
[07:49] <gerald> can someone help me with dual monitor?
[07:50] <cables> !dualhead | gerald
[07:50] <ubotu> gerald: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:50] <Lagi-Boejang> j/ surabaya
[07:51] <asc> friedtofu: Eh, it doesn't like my .ogm.  I've got to run, in any case.
[07:52] <friedtofu> asc: thanks for ehlpin
[07:52] <friedtofu> haha
[07:52] <vivicrow> anyone tried to flash their motherboard in ubuntu?
[07:53] <unop> vivicrow,  flash the BIOS you mean?
[07:53] <jbinder> how do you make a rar?
[07:53] <seravitae_> anyone? i really need to temporarily stop X from startup.
[07:53] <vivicrow> unop: yup ;)
[07:53] <unop> jbinder,  rar --help  shows you how
[07:53] <andres_> vivicrow: ready problem solvent thank you!!!
[07:53] <gerald> so how do i setup xinerama for dual monitor?
[07:54] <asc> friedtofu: Glad to try.  Hope y'all get it working.  As a last resort, there are tools to split and combine tracks of .mkv files - and mplayer -ao pcm will output any sound file as .wav, which can be edited in audacity(say, to add ten seconds at the beginning).
[07:54] <vivicrow> andres_: i am glad to hear that ;)
[07:54] <cables> !xinerama | gerald
[07:54] <ubotu> gerald: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:54] <jbinder> unop: i do not have rar
[07:54] <unop> vivicrow,  flashing the BIOS is a OS-independant operation -- why would ubuntu care? :)
[07:54] <jbinder> unop: i have unrar though
[07:54] <jbinder> :\
[07:54] <unop> jbinder,  install it then :) .. sudo aptitude install rar
[07:54] <Aboven> What should a ubuntu user code like gc etc :)
[07:54] <Deafboy> can someone help me re-install grub, i made an xp install over my ubuntu?
[07:55] <abc124> I'm a PHP programmer, how can I help Ubuntu/the Ubuntu community?
[07:55] <andres_> vivicrow: ok thank's
[07:55] <MrSprinkle> whats the default user and password!? I have a friend who installed it, and cant log-in :S
[07:55] <asc> friedtofu: but that's the realm of insane bloody-mindedness; getting another copy from limewire might be faster.
[07:55] <cables> !grub | Deafboy
[07:55] <ubotu> Deafboy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:55] <jbinder> MrSprinkle: there is no default username and password
[07:55] <vivicrow> andres_: have fun
[07:55] <unop> Aboven,  sorry, come again
[07:55] <MrSprinkle> what, just hit enter all the way through it???
[07:55] <Aboven> =(
[07:55] <jbinder> what is an STDIN player?
[07:56] <vivicrow> unop: well, i am just looking for another way of flashing the BIOS
[07:56] <Aboven> i wanna learn to programming stuff what should i program ..
[07:56] <_I_luv_sex> ohhh snaps
[07:56] <_I_luv_sex> python!
[07:56] <_I_luv_sex> Pype
[07:56] <Aboven> :/
[07:56] <arnducky> maybe one that takes input from stdin standard input buffer?
[07:56] <unop> vivicrow,  well, according to your motherboard's vendor -- there should only be one way of flashing the BIOS .. and even that should be used very sparingly
[07:56] <Aboven> What python
[07:56] <_I_luv_sex> python is a program language
[07:57] <thekidrio> and a snake
[07:57] <unop> _I_luv_sex,  can you change your nickname please .. children often come in here
[07:57] <vivicrow> unop: yup, that way is using a program call Asus Upgrade, and it deosn't work
[07:57] <indigoblu> does Feisty support LVM installs that are not alternate CD install (I want to use the graphical install for users who cant do text)
[07:57] <thekidrio> and monty's last name :P
[07:57] <MrSprinkle> are you made to make a username and password during install or after???
[07:57] <thekidrio> during install
[07:57] <seravitae_> seriously, someone must know where gdm/startx is loaded on bootup. in some script somewhere.
[07:57] <thekidrio> you can do it after with sudo passwd <nick>
[07:58] <unop> vivicrow,  hrrm, why/how doesnt it work?
[07:58] <thekidrio> seravitae_: yeah hrmm its in the init.d look for boot up conf
[07:58] <MrSprinkle> so, during install, you should be able to make a username.... hmmmm. I wonder what version my friend downloaded then :S
[07:58] <abc124> I'm a PHP programmer, how can I help Ubuntu/the Ubuntu community?
[07:58] <thekidrio> i think its run level 3  but i am a bit drunk
[07:58] <tcpip> !dhcp
[07:58] <unop> seravitae_,  its started via a startup script -- usually /etc/rc2.d/?dm
[07:58] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[07:58] <andou> I have a question about Ubuntu Server instal/setup
[07:59] <andou> I was following this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/node/1388
[07:59] <_I_luv_gimp> =)
[07:59] <vivicrow> unop: can't remember now...said it couldn't find some information...
[07:59] <thekidrio> go for it andou
[07:59] <seravitae_> unop: cool, found it. so I just rename it or something to disable x/login screen?
[07:59] <vivicrow> unop: i have to go back to windows to see the error msg...so no bother
[07:59] <andou> but... I didn't read cd webmin-1.290 as a directory on my desktop
[07:59] <unop> seravitae_,  ahh no -- use the update-rc.d command to do the enabling and disabling
[07:59] <thekidrio> ahh andou you downloaded webmin?
[08:00] <andou> and... there are a lot of 'symbols' that I can't decipher in the guide.
[08:00] <abc124> I'm a PHP programmer, how can I help Ubuntu/the Ubuntu community?
[08:00] <thekidrio> did you download it to your desktop?
[08:00] <andou> thekidrio Yeah
[08:00] <thekidrio> i assume you are installing webmin? hehe
[08:00] <andou> thekidrio: Yes, I did...
[08:00] <thekidrio> its a cool tool
[08:00] <andou> Well, I installed
[08:00] <andou> but not through the terminal
[08:00] <andou> And, I kind of got lost...
[08:00] <thekidrio> synaptic?
[08:00] <unop> abc124,  you can approach individual projects and help them with things like online documentation, etc
[08:01] <andou> I just cicked it and it promted to install
[08:01] <kenthomson> Hello i am in a little trouble can somebody please help me? It's about kiba-dock, anyone familiar with it?
[08:01] <thekidrio> andou: it is probably installed then, the guide is not for you i think
[08:01] <seravitae_> unop, you lost me. this certainly wasnt how i did it last time
[08:01] <thekidrio> i think webmin is accessed in a browser eh
[08:02] <thekidrio> its umm http://localhost:10000 by default
[08:02] <andou> thekidrio: Haha. You might be right. I've got to question myself, if I can't follow a simple guide.
[08:02] <umop> hay does anyone listen to the ubuntu podcast?
[08:02] <thekidrio> nah andou you are doing it the right way
[08:02] <thekidrio> gotta push forward
[08:02] <kenthomson> It's like this: Till i am having beryl as my window manager, the kiba-dock will show transparent background (as i have switched off all colours), but as soon as i change my window manager to metacity, the kiba-dock as got this ugly black background, and all the icons to have it around them. Can someone please help me correct this?
[08:02] <vivicrow> kenthomson: what is kiba-dock?
[08:02] <thekidrio> or you never learn new stuff hehe
[08:02] <unop> seravitae_,  you should use the update-rc.d command to enable and disable services -- the manpage of update-rc.d shows you how
[08:02] <andou> thekidrio: cool thanks :)
[08:02] <thekidrio> !webmin
[08:02] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[08:03] <andou> thekidrio: That's some good advice. I'll keep going with it. Thanks
[08:03] <kenthomson> vivicrow, kiba-dock, as you would have guessed is a dock to place your icons
[08:03] <andou> oh
[08:03] <thekidrio> it works mostly andou
[08:03] <andou> I think that answers my question though.
[08:03] <thekidrio> play with it
[08:03] <thekidrio> its ok
[08:03] <vivicrow> kenthomson, yup, thanks for comfirming my guess ;)
[08:03] <andou> ok
[08:03] <andou> I'll try
[08:03] <thekidrio> it just edits config files
[08:03] <thekidrio> so as long as its not mission critical stuff
[08:03] <thekidrio> play around
[08:03] <kenthomson> No-one willing to help me?
[08:03] <thekidrio> kenthomson: sorry ask again i missed it
[08:03] <andou> it's totally not mission critical. I just want to setup an FTP server to start
[08:04] <thekidrio> ahh then dont use webmin if thats all
[08:04] <cables> !patience | kenthomson
[08:04] <ubotu> kenthomson: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:04] <andou> and then forums
[08:04] <seravitae_> unop: i dont need to disable it per se, im just trying to install nvidia drivers, and i need to shut x down. every time i close it (even manually kill -9 pid) it frickin reopens to the ubuntu greeter.
[08:04] <thekidrio> are you installing a lamp server/.
[08:04] <andou> thekidrio yeah.
[08:04] <abc124> unop, so there is no way i can help ubuntu specifically with php programming?
[08:04] <cables> kenthomson, go to #ubuntu-effects for beryl/compiz help
[08:04] <thekidrio> nice
[08:04] <kenthomson> thekidrio,  It's like this: Till i am having beryl as my window manager, the kiba-dock will show transparent background (as i have switched off all colours), but as soon as i change my window manager to metacity, the kiba-dock as got this ugly black background, and all the icons to have it around them. Can someone please help me correct this?
[08:04] <thekidrio> lamp is fantastic
[08:05] <andou> thekidrio: Is it maybe better not to use a GUI with it?
[08:05] <seravitae_> got it, thanks.
[08:05] <thekidrio> kenthomson:  what vid card do you have?
[08:05] <ardchoille> Is there any mucis apps in the repos that can play .aspx files???
[08:05] <vivicrow> kenthomson, i don't know if metacity supports transperant...different window managers do different things
[08:05] <thekidrio> andou: its fine to use a gui, but if just need to set up that first then i might learn the terminal way
[08:05] <kenthomson> thekidrio, nvidia fx5200 128MB RAM
[08:05] <unop> seravitae_,  still -- using update-rc.d is the right way to go about this -- if you want to shutdown x -- CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to the console and then issue this -- sudo killall gdm;
[08:05] <vivicrow> kenthomson, i don't know about those thing...my video card deosn't even support true transperant
[08:06] <seravitae_> unop:  yeah, thats what i did. thanks
[08:06] <thekidrio> kenthomson:  hrmm direct rendering and all that working?
[08:06] <andou> thekidrio: Yeah. I think that might be more interesting... even if I hit a couple bumps along the way.
[08:06] <thekidrio> andou: yeah its much more rewarding
[08:06] <kenthomson> thekidrio, how do i test it? beryl works fine with its effects though
[08:06] <thekidrio> ahh
[08:06] <thekidrio> then do you have emerald installed?
[08:06] <thekidrio> emerald-themes that is
[08:06] <andou> thekidrio: Alright. I'll look for a guide for it without using a GUI.
[08:07] <thekidrio> andou:  do a search for sftp
[08:07] <thekidrio> !sftp
[08:07] <andou> sftp? I'll cehck for it
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <vivicrow> kenthomson, to text if you have direct rendering...type 'glxinfo' in your terminal
[08:07] <vivicrow> kenthomson, to test if you have direct rendering...type 'glxinfo' in your terminal
[08:07] <thekidrio> type glxinfo | grep direct
[08:07] <unop> abc124,  php is a web-focused language -- ubuntu's web-presence is pretty much handled -- php doesnt have much scope within the ubuntu distribution except that a lot of the starting projects dont tend to have enough documentation, utilities to search info, facts, etc .. which is why i suggested you approach them .. helping what ubuntu is made off is helping ubuntu itself
[08:07] <kenthomson> vivicrow, direct rendering:Yes
[08:07] <thekidrio> yeah if beryl is working then he does
[08:07] <_I_luv_you> hey has anyone here set up a dedicated server with apache2 and bypassed the DOE's filters?
[08:08] <vivicrow> thekidrio, yup
[08:08] <thekidrio> kenthomson: do you have emerald themes installed?
[08:08] <kenthomson> thekidrio, yes a lot
[08:08] <thekidrio> is the border around them in all of the themes/.
[08:08] <vivicrow> thekidrio, i guess it is the metacity's problem
[08:08] <andou> thekidrio: Do you mean Simple File Transfer Protocol or SSH File Transfer Protocol?
[08:08] <thekidrio> and is the border thing a shadow look or just an ugly border
[08:08] <thekidrio> ssh file transfer
[08:08] <thekidrio> aka secure f t p
[08:09] <kenthomson> thekidrio, i get transparent borders in emerald themes
[08:09] <andou> thekidrio: hehe. Ok. Thanks
[08:09] <thekidrio> its a better route to go andou
[08:09] <echosyp> error: `struct page' has no member named `count'
[08:09] <thekidrio> seems like a metacity thing then
[08:09] <echosyp> what does that mean?
[08:09] <thekidrio> hrmm
[08:09] <kenthomson> thekidrio, i get the shadows around window frames too, and they are transparent also
[08:09] <jbinder> how do i check which dev my CD drive is?
[08:09] <jbinder> /dev/...
[08:09] <jbinder> /dev/hd..
[08:09] <kenthomson> thekidrio, any idea how i should trouble should it
[08:09] <thekidrio> hrmm
[08:09] <thekidrio> metacity ubuntu bugs in google
[08:10] <thekidrio> or metacity bugs beryl
[08:10] <thekidrio> webmenu.com is a good search to
[08:10] <thekidrio> too
[08:10] <Jonanin> Walkingstick
[08:10] <thekidrio> it looks at a bunch of search engines at once
[08:10] <Jonanin> LOL
[08:10] <echosyp> error: `struct page' has no member named `count'
[08:10] <echosyp> error: `struct page' has no member named `count'
[08:10] <_I_luv_you> has anyone setup a proxy server?
[08:10] <thekidrio> echosyp: have you pasted that into a google search?
[08:10] <andou> thekidrio: Ok thanks. I'd like to setup a server for use as FTP, a Website and Forums for about 50 people.
[08:10] <kenthomson> thekidrio,  or is kiba-dock supposed to work correctly only with beryl and not with metacity?
[08:10] <echosyp> yes
[08:10] <andou> thekidrio: I don't really know anything about it, but I've got a couple months to practice
[08:10] <yellow> hey guys, how do i set up a default folder settings for gnome ?
[08:11] <thekidrio> i am not very familiar with kiba dock i just sort of played with it so not sure
[08:11] <_I_luv_you> Use apache for a server!
[08:11] <kenthomson> thekidrio, ok
[08:11] <kenthomson> thekidrio, thanks anyways
[08:11] <thekidrio> andou: easy stuff in the end, always search for a solution first its almost always been done before
[08:11] <thekidrio> a lamp server makes that an easy task with research andou
[08:11] <kenthomson> And can someone please tell me how do i change the icons of only a particular folder (for eg the icon) of the /home/ken/music folder?
[08:12] <andou> thekidrio: Alright. That's what I thought - ok thanks again. I'll check out sftp
[08:12] <thekidrio> and ssh in general
[08:12] <vivicrow> kenthomson, just read this: Kiba-dock is run as a standalone program, but it depends on Beryl for its alpha-transparency.
[08:12] <thekidrio> makes it much easier to admin remote servers
[08:12] <kenthomson> vivicrow, could you please give me the source
[08:13] <vivicrow> kenthomson, it's very short, not a kiba-dock how, but on beryl's wiki: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Kiba-dock
[08:14] <kenthomson> Is there a way i can change the icon of a particular folder?????
[08:14] <_I_luv_you> yes
[08:14] <kenthomson> how?
[08:14] <thekidrio> the way you do it depends on the window manager you use
[08:14] <_I_luv_you> but I dont have a clue how to
[08:14] <aarohi> i'm having some trouble playing mp3's... amarok doesn't actually play them... skips by everything in the playlist. how do i check if the mp3 codec's installed?
[08:14] <thekidrio> gnome, or kde or xfce or fluxbox
[08:14] <aarohi> i'm using kubuntu
[08:14] <cables> kenthomson, right click on folder, go to Properties, click the folder icon in that window.
[08:14] <thekidrio> or enlighten
[08:15] <thekidrio> aarohi, you two ways
[08:15] <kenthomson> cableroy, thanks never realised that the simple icon there could be so decieveing :)
[08:15] <thekidrio> try to install the codec
[08:15] <vivicrow> cables: cool, didn't know that before
[08:15] <thekidrio> and if you ahve it already it will fail
[08:15] <cables> kenthomson, why do people call me cableroy?
[08:15] <thekidrio> or do an apt-cache find for the codec
[08:15] <kenthomson> cableroy, cause you wear cables around yourself in the day?
[08:15] <thekidrio> !mp3 | aarohi
[08:15] <ubotu> aarohi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:15] <andou> thekidrio: Ok. I'm going to try to set it up. Thanks for the encouragement :)
[08:16] <thekidrio> you can do it for sure
[08:16] <thekidrio> one sec andou
[08:16] <cables> kenthomson, my nick is cables, not cableroy... people call me cableroy, and I don't know why... is it some culture reference?
[08:16] <Flannel> cables: no, it's poor nick completion
[08:16] <kenthomson> cableroy, SEE THIS LINE
[08:16] <_I_luv_you> cabelroy!
[08:16] <_I_luv_you> hahaahaha
[08:16] <_I_luv_you> lmao
[08:16] <thekidrio> heh
[08:17] <_I_luv_you> cabel
[08:17] <kenthomson> cables, see theres a guys called cableroy too in this channel who gets preference of your nick "cables" for name completion when people press "cab" and then <tab>
[08:17] <cables> kenthomson, I had no idea there WAS name completion in this client... that's so cool!
[08:17] <cables> kenthomson, that sorta sucks
[08:17] <unop> ha ha
[08:17] <kenthomson> And one last question, does anyone used GLXboot theme?
[08:17] <aarohi> thank yyou thekidrio
[08:18] <Lard-O-Lad> i cant seem to mount an IMG file in the Edgy LiveCD? It throws the  ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid Arg error.
[08:18] <kenthomson> Anyone using glxboot theme??? I can't seem to get the splash working
[08:19] <kenthomson> Lard-O-Lad,     * To mount Image (ISO) file
[08:19] <kenthomson> sudo mkdir /media/iso
[08:19] <kenthomson> sudo modprobe loop
[08:19] <kenthomson> sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[08:19] <cpk1> Seveas: dang, you are quick
[08:19] <cpk1> scripted kick?
[08:20] <kenthomson> cpk1, likely
[08:20] <_I_luv_you> weird
[08:20] <Lard-O-Lad> kenthomson: is the type still the same even if the file is an IMG?
[08:20] <makuseru> does anyone dual boot on a mac? or just linux on a mac? and can help me with the install
[08:20] <_I_luv_you> Seveas is most likely a bot
[08:20] <cables> They should give a warning... some new people don't know that pinging the channel is obnoxious...
[08:20] <seravitae_> hey what do i do to make linux-headers
[08:20] <thekidrio> ./msg Seveas are you my mommy
[08:20] <seravitae_> 'make' didnt work
[08:20] <kenthomson> Lard-O-Lad, Do this "file /home/you-user-name/image-file
[08:21] <kenthomson> Lard-O-Lad, is the output a ISO?
[08:21] <newest> hey how do i switch to root user?
[08:21] <cables> !root | newest
[08:21] <ubotu> newest: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:21] <_I_luv_you> make sure you enabled root
[08:21] <Flannel> newest: ubuntu doesn't use the root account, you use sudo to execute a command as root
[08:21] <kenthomson> thekidrio, i didn't know the whole family is here :)
[08:21] <thekidrio> newest: sudo lets you switch to root for a bit
[08:21] <_I_luv_you> I use root in ubuntu
[08:21] <Flannel> _I_luv_you: there's no reason to enable root
[08:21] <thekidrio> haha kenthomson
[08:21] <_I_luv_you> im in root now
[08:21] <cables> newest, if you want a root shell, use "sudo -i"
[08:21] <_I_luv_you> or
[08:21] <thekidrio> why root in ubuntu?
[08:21] <kenthomson> thekidrio, can you help me set glxboot theme
[08:22] <_I_luv_you> enable it and login as root
[08:22] <thekidrio> defeats the purpose eh
[08:22] <Lard-O-Lad> kenthomson, erm i need to mount an IMG file...
[08:22] <_I_luv_you> cuz
[08:22] <newest> because im trying to install nmap
[08:22] <yellow> hey guys, how do i set up a default folder settings for gnome ?
[08:22] <Flannel> seravitae_: do you want to compile a kernel? or what?
[08:22] <kenthomson> GLXBOOT-theme anyone
[08:22] <cables> newest, use sudo
[08:22] <_I_luv_you> my games dont work properly when not in root
[08:22] <cables> !sudo | newest
[08:22] <ubotu> newest: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:22] <newest> but when i do, i cant find it and therefore use it
[08:22] <thekidrio> hrmm kenthomson, i am not a glx guru really :(
[08:22] <_I_luv_you> roots faster but leaves your comp open
[08:23] <seravitae_> Flannel: i installed a custom linux-headers and linux-image deb files, for my motherboard. it works perfectly
[08:23] <cables> newest, use "sudo <command>" to run a command as sudo.
[08:23] <seravitae_> except nvidia drivers wont install
[08:23] <thekidrio> yeah even though really for a normal user no one attacks you
[08:23] <thekidrio> really
[08:23] <yellow> hey guys, how do i set up a default folder settings for gnome/nautilus ? ( compact layout, view as icons, by name, not showing hidden files) ?
[08:23] <newest> yup works
[08:23] <Flannel> _I_luv_you: it's not faster, it's just a regular user.
[08:23] <aarohi> the help tutorial tells me to install libxine-extracodecs ... but thats not available in adept (i'm using kubuntu). i do have the universe and multiverse enabled
[08:23] <seravitae_> and it points to missing files inside the headers folder
[08:23] <_I_luv_you> ??
[08:23] <thekidrio> fast as in less set up
[08:23] <Flannel> aarohi: You're on edgy?
[08:23] <thekidrio> not faster as in process time
[08:23] <aarohi> Flannel: 6.06
[08:23] <aarohi> Kubuntu
[08:24] <newest> having problems installing applications, because when i do with synaptic package manager, it says its intstalled, then i cant find where its dl,
[08:24] <thekidrio> newest: sometimes they do not create a menu item
[08:24] <cables> newest, "whereis <nameofsoftware>"
[08:24] <_I_luv_you> whens 7.04 comming out?!
[08:24] <thekidrio> one thing to do is install the debian menu
[08:24] <Flannel> aarohi: you sure you added multiverse?
[08:24] <cables> _I_luv_you, april
[08:24] <aarohi> yes Flannel
[08:24] <Madpilot> _I_luv_you, april 07
[08:24] <Flannel> _I_luv_you: in 04 of 07
[08:24] <_I_luv_you> Thanks
[08:24] <Flannel> aarohi: since, that's where it is.  did you update your cache?
[08:25] <seravitae_> Flannel: /var/log/nvidia-installer shows "error: linux/config.h: no file or directory", yet I changed the symlink to my headers (to match the kernel) *shrug*
[08:25] <aarohi> Flannel: is this the one? dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:25] <aarohi> i'll do that.
[08:25] <Flannel> aarohi: no, 'dapper' not backports
[08:25] <aarohi> oh... i'm not sure i have that then
[08:26] <aarohi> exactly what should i add to the repositories?
[08:26] <Flannel> aarohi: add multiverse for dapper
[08:26] <pavs> whats the name of the wiki application for ur desktop to right down notes?
[08:26] <aarohi> Flannel: what is the url?
[08:26] <Flannel> pavs: zim is the one that was on planet
[08:26] <Flannel> aarohi: whatever repository you use (same as the rest)
[08:26] <cables> pavs, tomboy?
[08:26] <aarohi> okay
[08:27] <pavs> yes tomboy tnx
[08:27] <Flannel> aarohi: most people just append multiverse to their universe lin
[08:27] <aarohi> should i do that too Flannel?
[08:27] <Flannel> aarohi: it really doesn't make any difference
[08:27] <newest> i typed in whereis: this is what i got ; e:~$ whereis nmap
[08:27] <newest> nmap: /usr/bin/nmap /usr/X11R6/bin/nmap /usr/bin/X11/nmap /usr/share/nmap /usr/share/man/man1/nmap.1.gz .. so now what?
[08:28] <_`XeOn_> hello
[08:28] <newest> how do i get it to run?
[08:28] <aarohi> will appending multiverse to the universe line work Flannel?
[08:28] <thekidrio> ok afk now, food here haha
[08:28] <cables> newest, jsut type in "nmap"
[08:28] <unop> aarohi,  http://pastebin.ca/348620
[08:28] <newest> in the terminal?
[08:28] <cables> newest, yep
[08:28] <Flannel> aarohi: yes.  'deb [url]  dapper universe multiverse'
[08:28] <_`XeOn_> any channel for unreal support?
[08:28] <newest> ah sweet! ty!
[08:29] <cables> newest, after that, you can add it to the menu in System>Preferences>Menu Layout
[08:30] <makuseru> does anyone dual boot on a mac? or just linux on a mac? and can help me with the install
[08:30] <gerald> i get this weird white/greyish screen when i startx while attempting to use dual monitor with xinerama
[08:30] <gerald> can anyone help?
[08:32] <aarohi> thank you Flannel
[08:33] <newest> erm when i set up a menu layout for nmap, i ticked the checkbox for run in terminal, but when i click on it, it opens for like 2 seconds then closes
[08:33] <Flannel> newest: that's because the program runs off of command line arguments
[08:34] <newest> so basically theres no point in creating a menu layout for it
[08:34] <newest> ?
[08:34] <infornography> I am trying to install a game in wine. But when I run regedit, for some reason I can't rename registry keys. Is there a way to work around that?
[08:34] <Flannel> newest: yeah, pretty much.
[08:34] <Flannel> infornography: you might have more luck in #winehq
[08:34] <infornography> Oh ok, thanks
[08:35] <hadron> fellows, my headphone output is not being altered by the master gnome volume control. Any ideas?
[08:35] <newest> cool, i found the root terminal
[08:40] <kenthomson> can someone suggest a article to setup nice eyecandy in ubuntu
[08:40] <kenthomson>  i am having kiba-dock, beryl installed
[08:40] <Flannel> kenthomson: #ubuntu-effects
[08:40] <kenthomson> but i want a matching desktop with matching theme/icons/beryl-theme/splash/gdm/etc, any article anywhere on the net on that?
[08:41] <Nergar> anyone can suggest a nice multimedia player with FF plugin?
[08:41] <CharlieChester> exit
[08:43] <Steven_M> hi all
[08:44] <Toma-> Nergar: mplayer?
[08:44] <DEWA_CINTA_sby> hi
[08:45] <DEWA_CINTA_sby> hi
[08:45] <Nergar> hi
[08:45] <Nergar> totem has a FF plug in?
[08:45] <Nergar> !help
[08:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:46] <Xif> What's a good key to bind to "Switch to Fullscreen mode"?
[08:47] <L4J> hey
[08:47] <Xif> And generally, is there a list of recommended full keybindings?  you know, for all those that aren't set by default out of the box, and so we don't clash with common bindings?
[08:48] <L4J> I have been in this channel for the last couple days... I was wondering, I downloaded and installed this program called "Frostwire" but when I try to open it from the Internet Sub-Menu, it just will not open.
[08:48] <Nergar> !dvds
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <kenthomson> L4J, being in this channel is not a pre-requisite for asking questions :)
[08:48] <Spee_Der> Nergar: have you tried using VLC ?
[08:49] <L4J> I'm sorry.. I don't understand..
[08:49] <L4J> lol
[08:49] <Nergar> no Spee_Der
[08:49] <Nergar> i want codecs and dvd playback
[08:49] <Spee_Der> Nergar: I've had good luck using vlc for almost any multi-media
[08:50] <Toma-> Nergar: you need w32codecs and libdvdcss
[08:50] <Aboven> Hey, are there not xmmsCue  deb pack to ubuntu?
[08:50] <kenthomson> L4J, does "frostwi", then <tab> complete it to "frostwire" in the terminal, what do you get when you press enter after "frostwire" in terminal?
[08:50] <Nergar> almost, what didn't worked?  ;P
[08:50] <Steven_M> with ubuntu and linspire teaming up, does mean ubuntu won't use apt-get anymore?
[08:51] <Nergar> thnx toma i apt them?
[08:51] <kenthomson> Steven_M,  don;t say that
[08:51] <Toma-> Nergar: yeh. you might need to enable some 3rd party repos tho
[08:51] <Nergar> D:
[08:51] <Toma-> try /msg ubotu dvd and /msg ubotu w32codecs
[08:51] <Nergar> ok, thanx for all the help
[08:51] <L4J> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[08:51] <Toma-> no probs
[08:51] <L4J> that ^^
[08:51] <kenthomson> can someone help me with glxboot theme, i don't get the splash screen?
[08:52] <Nergar> Spee_Der,  almost?, what didn't worked?  ;P
[08:52] <kde_sucks> !gnome
[08:52] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:52] <Spee_Der> Nergar: my son sent some mmf files. but I could not listen to them.
[08:53] <Steven_M> kenthomson: just wondering
[08:53] <Spee_Der> Nergar: sudo apt-get installl w32codecs
[08:53] <Nergar> thanx
[08:54] <kenthomson> i need help setting glxboot theme, i have set it up, but it doesn't splash, is someone willing to help?
[08:55] <Nergar> xine or gstreamer???
[08:55] <Nergar> whats best?
[08:55] <Steven_M> can anyone answer my question?
[08:55] <kde_sucks> gstrteamer
[08:55] <Steven_M> with ubuntu and linspire teaming up, does mean ubuntu won't use apt-get anymore?
[08:55] <kurt> xine!
[08:55] <kurt> but my xine aint working
[08:56] <Nergar> lol, thanx kdesux
[08:56] <kurt> no apt-get ... say it aint true
[08:56] <crackhead25> question: what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? which would people recommend? are they significantly different besides the default desktop enviro?
[08:56] <kurt> i dont think there is a sig difference
[08:56] <Nergar> about apt-get Steven_M??
[08:56] <crackhead25> how about Xubuntu and Edubuntu?
[08:57] <Steven_M> Nergar: yes
[08:57] <Flannel> crackhead25: there's no difference except the environment, they share repositories
[08:58] <shinobi2> is there an app to write zero to erase disk?
[08:58] <Toma-> shinobi2: dd
[08:58] <Flannel> shinobi2: there's better. let me remember the name
[08:58] <crackhead25> question: is kubuntu/ubuntu better than opensuse 10.2?
[08:59] <Madpilot> Flannel, shred
[08:59] <Flannel> yeah, that's the one.
[08:59] <kurt> opensuse 10.1 spoiled suse for me
[08:59] <Flannel> it'll write over the disk N times, varying amounts of 1s 0s, randoms, etc
[08:59] <mackinac> hard to qualify "better"
[08:59] <crackhead25> kurt: how did it "spoil"?
[08:59] <xavier___> question: can ubuntu be as fast to boot and run as gentoo?
[09:00] <crackhead25> yeah, "better" is relative. im thinking--faster, easier to use, less bugs when updating..
[09:00] <kurt> busted updater
[09:00] <kurt> wont install to gui on my ati 9250 card
[09:00] <kurt> and lcd widescreen
[09:00] <kurt> it just wouldnt so i binned it and moved over to ubuntu
[09:01] <crackhead25> kurt: is it difficult to transfer an installation from one linux distro to another? what do you mean 'binned" it?
[09:01] <kurt> trash bin
[09:01] <capt-rogers> if apple can write aqua/osx on top of darwin, i am sure the worlwide linux commnity can easily surpass osx's user interface. i think a lot of effort is being duplicated repeatedly. thunderbird/evolution /kde/gnome linux/hurd apache/tux..list goes on forever...
[09:01] <kurt> stuck inmy ubuntu cd and repartitioned my hd
[09:01] <crackhead25> if i have opensuse already, and iw ant tos witch to kubuntu, is it difficult to do--do i have to start from scratch or can i use still my same partition or same documents (mp3's, .doc's, etc. etc.) -- even kde setup?
[09:01] <kurt> away with suse in with feisty
[09:01] <Steven_M> another question is: is there an unoffical package of gnome telnet for ubuntu? It's not in the std repos
[09:02] <Flannel> crackhead25: if you have your home on a separate partition, then you can install around it
[09:03] <crackhead25> how do i know/setup my home to be on a "separate" partition? is that the smart way to be setting up linux installations?
[09:03] <Flannel> crackhead25: you would've partitioned it that way to begin with ;)  And yeah, separating some partitions is a good idea, for various reasons.
[09:04] <Flannel> of course, which ones should be separated depends on how/what you use your computer for
[09:04] <crackhead25> how do i tell my linux install that my home folder is setup on a partition different from where the rest of the distro install is?
[09:04] <shinobi2> Flannel: Madpilot thanks, it does it 26 times, kind of over kill
[09:04] <shinobi2> =)
[09:04] <ardchoille> Juhaz: You awake?
[09:04] <shinobi2> haha
[09:04] <Flannel> shinobi2: that's configurable though.  26 is just the default
[09:04] <crackhead25> flannel: can you give some examples?
[09:04] <Madpilot> shinobi2, you can set shred to use fewer passes
[09:05] <Flannel> crackhead25: well, some people put /var on separatepartitions, so if there are runaway log problems (one program starts logging in aloop or whatever) it doesn't suck up all of the space for anything except /var
[09:06] <Flannel> crackhead25: putting /home on a separate partition is good, because it means you made reinstalls independant of your personal data (don't need to copy it somewhere when reinstalling)
[09:06] <crackhead25> is /var always where any program writes logs? what does "var" stand for?
[09:06] <damian> ds
[09:07] <ardchoille> crackhead25: Good question
[09:07] <capt-rogers> if it is a home system dont bother with seperate partioning..because you'll be the only user most likely, and you will know where everything is...partioning is often used on server setups, to set hard limits so one data/log/program etc, does not fill up a disk and temporarily disable the server....
[09:07] <SharkP> hi
[09:08] <SharkP> could anyone help me?
[09:08] <SharkP> the room #kubuntu isn't so friendiy...
[09:08] <Flannel> crackhead25, ardchoille, /var is for "variable data", as in-- stuff that ranges/grows/shrinks in size.
[09:08] <ardchoille> Flannel: Thank you. I always wondered about that.
[09:08] <crackhead25> capt-rogers: though, if i want to try a bunch of different linux distros, i want to minimize my installation changes
[09:08] <SharkP> Flannel:could you help me?
[09:08] <kurt> laterrrr
[09:09] <Flannel> crackhead25: http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg  is a nice simple rundown, Ubuntu does some stuff differently, for more details : http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html (again, ubuntu does some stuff differently)
[09:09] <ardchoille> Anyone have any ideas on this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2138051
[09:09] <Flannel> !ask | SharkP
[09:09] <ubotu> SharkP: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <crackhead25> capt-rogers: what recommendations do you have for setting up a box for various linux distros, including kubuntu and ubuntu and others?
[09:09] <SharkP> ok...
[09:09] <SharkP> I've installed amarok
[09:09] <SharkP> I want it in italian,but it is in english
[09:09] <SharkP> I use GNOME
[09:09] <SharkP> How can I do?
[09:09] <kurt> crackhead25, just when you part ypur hd put a / part a swap part and /home part
[09:10] <kurt> that way if youhave to reinstall your data is still there
[09:10] <kurt> bed for me
[09:10] <mykalReborn> i don't think amarok comes in different languages
[09:10] <Flannel> crackhead25: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same distribution.  They'll live entertwined with one another
[09:10] <crackhead25> that's an option--to make a /home part, and thus the install will know to correlate what usually goes in/communicates with /home there? i see..
[09:10] <mykalReborn> maybe in different distros
[09:10] <SharkP> mykalreborn:I used KDE
[09:11] <SharkP> and in that amarok was in italian
[09:11] <mykalReborn> well...
[09:11] <SharkP> but now,I use GNOME
[09:11] <crackhead25> what's the difference between kde and X?
[09:11] <capt-rogers> you are going to have to do a complete install anyways..unless you do a vmware or xen install...your just as well to install onto a spare 8gb drive..and overwrite it if yo want to try another distro...you dont want to do shortcuts...
[09:11] <mykalReborn> i think it was because of the distro
[09:11] <Flannel> SharkP: you'll need to install some KDE language stuff, I imagine
[09:11] <crackhead25> sharkP: why did you switch from kde to gnome?
[09:11] <mykalReborn> sharkP: nope,
[09:11] <mykalReborn> sorry
[09:11] <frogzoo> crackhead25: nothing wrong with gnome on a fast machine
[09:11] <SharkP> crackhead25:for me,KDE was too "Windows-style"
[09:12] <crackhead25> can't you change things around a lot in either kde or gnome--make the menus where youw ant them, modify the menus, put different applets in it, position and resize them, etc.?
[09:12] <adamonline45> Hola y'all, I'm lookin' for a way to remotely transfer files to my webserver from my Mac laptop.  For free.  I'm thinking FTP, but open to suggestions or confirmation... Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
[09:12] <SharkP> Flannel:so,shall I install the kde italian language pack?
[09:12] <shinobi2> Flannel: Madpilot: ah.... so for each pass it writes a random 1 or 0, then on the final pass, write all 0s
[09:12] <unop> X is the subsystem that controls windowing, the creation of them, their management, etc -- the KDE is a desktop environment that depends on X but has its own way of dealing with the windows, creating its own title bars, buttons, effects, etc
[09:13] <unop> crackhead25,  ^^
[09:13] <Madpilot> shinobi2, not sure - try "man shred" for details
[09:13] <crackhead25> yeah
[09:13] <crackhead25> i gotcha..
[09:13] <SharkP> Ok,i try...
[09:13] <SharkP> thanx and Bye!
[09:13] <_I_luv_you> anyone know how to install the movie editor? I forgot what it was called -_-
[09:14] <shinobi2> Madpilot: it looks that way, man shred did not say much
[09:14] <Flannel> shinobi2: there's a few schemes it uses.
[09:14] <capt-rogers> i woould use 'scp'  try not to run a ftp service unless you have to,,,and to put files up..scp will do,.
[09:15] <shinobi2> Madpilot: Flannel: in the pass, i write big ISO image over my hard drive , until it's full, then format it
[09:15] <capt-rogers> pretty sure there is a putty version for osx...putty is nice because it saves yor preferences....and has a common interface across os's
[09:15] <shinobi2> *past
[09:16] <shinobi2> i am just shreding my 256 mb flash drive now
[09:16] <Madpilot> shinobi2, that should nicely munge things up...
[09:16] <shinobi2> but my hard drives were big, 100+ gb
[09:16] <kuw88> how can i get the java?
[09:16] <Flannel> !java | kuw88
[09:16] <ubotu> kuw88: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:19] <shinobi2> Madpilot: given a 120gb hard drive, 10gb is hidden from windows, i wonder if addition space were created from manufatures like another 20gb.   so writing ISO over hard drive still worrys me sometimes
[09:19] <Flannel> shinobi2: that 10GB is the "recovery partition"
[09:20] <unop> shinobi2,  nothing is hidden from the OS .. its just that hard drive manufacturers and programmers use different definitions of what constitues a gigabyte
[09:20] <kuw88> how can i geiont the java ?
[09:20] <shinobi2> Flannel: hm..
[09:21] <shinobi2> unop: i know what you are saying
[09:21] <kuw88> how can i get the java?
[09:21] <Madpilot> ubotu, java | kuw88
[09:21] <ubotu> kuw88: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:21] <unop> shinobi2,  harddrive vendors use 1000bytes in a kilbyte .. programmers use 1024 to a kilobyte -- over gigabytes, you feel the difference
[09:21] <unop> s/kilbyte/kilobyte/
[09:21] <shinobi2> Flannel: "recovery partition" meaning restoring windows OS or manufature desgin of recovery algorithm?
[09:22] <Flannel> shinobi2: er... it's the FAT32 partition (D:) that contains... well, functionally worthless stuff.
[09:22] <graft> hiya - after i've killed a program in X with a weird video mode, and it's exited all funny and everything is the wrong size, how do i restore X to normal without restarting it?
[09:22] <shinobi2> unop: yes, that what western digital printed on my 6.4GB manual long ago.
[09:23] <shinobi2> Flannel: ah... i thought you mean #2, manufature have a hidden algorithm in there.  i am very familar with these fat32 restore partition, it cuts cost for Computer Builders
[09:23] <shinobi2> such as dell, hp, etc..
[09:23] <unop> Flannel,  but even without a recovery partition -- theres a discrepancy in sizes reported .. and D: doesnt exist on every single windows comp .. most computers now dont use a drive letter even
[09:24] <unop> .. for the "recovery partition"
[09:25] <unop> shinobi2,  some vendors just give you a couple of CD-Roms instead of using up your harddrive space
[09:25] <crazy_penguin> Hello!
[09:25] <ardchoille> Hi crazy_penguin
[09:25] <shinobi2> unop: it's interesting, how expensive tech guys are able to restore data.  i think it could be a government secret, that Western digital or any manufatures, have a 2ndary hidden store device with in a given 120 GB drive
[09:26] <Flannel> unop: no, no.  Windows requires the recovery partition.  But this is offtopic.
[09:26] <unop> Flannel,  uh uh, windows does not require a require a recovery partition at all
[09:26] <Flannel> shinobi2: did you read the shred website?  since it addresses that very issue/concern
[09:26] <shinobi2> unop: which will allow those expensive tech guys to do their job
[09:26] <shinobi2> Flannel: nope, i am going now
[09:28] <unop> shinobi2,  you mean they use your harddrive space for some illegitimate reason?
[09:28] <shinobi2> unop: yes, unannounce 2ndary hidden store devices
[09:29] <shinobi2> unop: in addtion to the published specs.  like they sell you a 100 gb drive, but it's actually 130gb
[09:29] <unop> shinobi2,  nahh, thats you being paranoid -- it doesnt happen :) coz if they did that, they'd risk being sued bankrupt
[09:30] <andou> How do I know my system's ip address when installing LAMP for an FTP server?
[09:30] <shinobi2> unop: hey, now days, a tiny flash drive hold 4gb
[09:30] <shinobi2> =)
[09:30] <shinobi2> but i like to pass my paranoia around and see what people say
[09:30] <unop> shinobi2,  it's be cheaper for them to just amass all that extra harddrive space on their own server farms rather than try and use harddrive space from all their customers (which doesnt happen)
[09:30] <Toma-> andou: ifconfig will tell you
[09:31] <andou> Toma-: Thank you :)
[09:31] <Toma-> np!
[09:32] <shinobi2> unop: well, people you lose data, have to call the manufature back for a restoring process, and manufatures make $
[09:32] <shinobi2> *people who lose data
[09:32] <CharlieChester> can someone help me with my first apache2 installation. followsymlinks doesnt seem to be recognised.
[09:32] <CharlieChester> 	DocumentRoot /var/www/
[09:32] <CharlieChester> 	<Directory />
[09:32] <CharlieChester> 		Options FollowSymLinks
[09:32] <CharlieChester> 		AllowOverride None
[09:32] <CharlieChester> 	</Directory>
[09:32] <CharlieChester> 
[09:33] <shinobi2> unop: maybe not on regular drives (home users) , but for propretiary SCSI drives
[09:33] <Flannel> !paste | CharlieChester
[09:33] <CharlieChester> in "defaults" file. But symlinks still get access forbidden.
[09:33] <ubotu> CharlieChester: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:34] <unop> shinobi2,  well naturally, thats how business works , especially in the service and support industry -- it's not just harddrive manufacturers, everyone does it
[09:34] <CharlieChester> sorry
[09:34] <shinobi2> unop: as SCSI drives for enterprise
[09:34] <shinobi2> unop: ok, so they sell enterprise a 100 gb, drive but it's a 130 drive, so that way they make bucks, and the math actually make more sense
[09:34] <Adlai> CharlieChester, that is probably best fixed by a close analysis of the apache docs and your own error logs
[09:34] <Adlai> check error logs first
[09:34] <Amon-san> mornin
[09:34] <unop> shinobi2,  well, do you expect the IT staff in an average company to have the resources to do the data recovery themselves, certainly not
[09:35] <CharlieChester> problem is that I find a difficulty in matching docs with actual files. I am not a db admin. Which config file should be updated to allow symlinks?
[09:35] <Flannel> unop, shinobi2, please take it elsewhere (like #ubuntu-offtopic)
[09:35] <CharlieChester> there appears to be a lot of config files and I dont know which have precedence.
[09:35] <mynick> i'm back
[09:35] <mynick> who has questions?
[09:35] <Flannel> CharlieChester: they all do different things, none of which override each other, so none have preference.
[09:36] <CharlieChester> I updated sites-enabled/defaults is this not right=
[09:36] <CharlieChester> ?
[09:36] <shinobi2> sorry, got carry away
[09:36] <CharlieChester> Flannel: thanks. But which is right file for adding followsymlinks in apache2 on linux?
[09:37] <unop> CharlieChester,  thats a per-location/directory directive
[09:37] <CharlieChester> ok. I ask a different way. Which file do I alter to allow sym links to followed from the /var/www root?
[09:37] <Flannel> CharlieChester: er... you're editing the correct one in sites-enabled and/or sites-available, have you restarted apache?
[09:38] <mynick> !libdvdcss
[09:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:38] <Indref> What is the commandline to shutdown a machine?
[09:38] <Flannel> Indref: shutdown ;)
[09:38] <Indref> That didn't work.
[09:38] <Flannel> Indref: it does.  You'll need to use it properly, and with sudo
[09:38] <Indref> That didn't work either.
[09:38] <mynick> sudo shutdown -h now
[09:39] <CharlieChester> Flannel: yes
[09:39] <Indref> What does the -h do.
[09:39] <Flannel> halt
[09:39] <Indref> Halt what.
[09:39] <Flannel> turns off the power after shutting down, on most machines
[09:39] <Indref> Oh. I think I get it. I'll try it.
[09:39] <Indref> If I timeout, it worked :D
[09:40] <CharlieChester> so sites-available/default is the one to edit? or sites-enabled too?
[09:40] <Flannel> CharlieChester: theyre both the same file
[09:40] <unop> Flannel, errm, isnt that what shutdown -p does ?  afaik halt does not necessarily power down the machine
[09:41] <Flannel> unop: hence the "on most machines"
[09:41] <mynick> true enough, it doesn't work everywhere
[09:42] <mynick> a moment ago there were lots of user questions, now everyones gone to sleep
[09:42] <mynick> :)
[09:42] <mynick> darn
[09:42] <andou> I have a question
[09:42] <newest> hey, ive only just installed ubuntu about 3 days ago, im completely new to ubuntu/linux in general, and i have to say UBUNTU GODAM ROCKS!!
[09:42] <mynick> newest, welcome.  it's not perfect, but once you taste freedom its hard to give up
[09:42] <andou> How can I control my desktop with my macbook through wireless hub?
[09:43] <andou> wireless router*
[09:43] <mynick> andou, system/preferences/remote desktop
[09:43] <newest> i was also wondering if i used gnome partition editor to format ntfs, will it reclaim the diskspace for ubuntu?
[09:43] <mynick> make sure you are on the same subnet and your wireless network is encrypted ... i'm not sure if that vnc session runs over ssh or not ... probably not
[09:44] <mynick> newest, what do you mean exactly format?  you mean format into a linux file system, or are you wanting to resize the ntfs?
[09:44] <andou> mynick: Thanks :)
[09:44] <mynick> if its resize, use a windows based tool for that like partition magic as no open source people can afford ms licencing to gain access to the ntfs secrets and get proper support
[09:44] <Flannel> CharlieChester: I haven't dabbled in apache configs in a while.  you might try asking in #apache, as there must be some other config that disables symlinks, but I can't remember it
[09:44] <mynick> andou, welcome
[09:45] <CharlieChester> Flannel: thanks anyway. funny thing was that I thought I was in apache. Something wierd with erc here :). CIao for now,
[09:45] <Flannel> CharlieChester: oh, it could be a permission issue, I suppose
[09:45] <newest> i got windows xp on ntfs, im dual booting atm, just wondering if i used the format option in gnome partition editor for ntfs to wipe windows from my pc, will the diskspace that was reserved for ntfs be allocated to ubuntu(hda2)?
[09:46] <n0cturnal_> I've just changed the mainboard in one of my pc's, and am now getting a kernel panic while trying to boot.. any ideas?
[09:46] <Flannel> newest: no.  It'll just be... blank.  You could format it as ext3, and mount it somewhere, or (depending on where it is), expand hda2 to fill it.
[09:46] <newest> ah k, ty
[09:46] <boni_> i have run into a problem my /home partition is being dtected with unfixable errors by fsck ihave turned filesystem check off by editing fstab but can anyone help me out it says buffer i/o error
[09:47] <mynick> newewabsolutely you wll bet an extra partition to play with
[09:47] <mynick> i don't think you can merge the partitions if thats what you wanted
[09:47] <phiqtion> yesterday, a new kernel was released. i installed it. but it doesn't boot because it says something about nvidia causing the problem. Does nvidia drivers install to a certain kernel and if later i install another kernel i must reinstall the drivers?
[09:47] <phiqtion> yesterday, a new kernel was released. i installed it. but it doesn't boot because it says something about nvidia causing the problem. Does nvidia drivers install to a certain kernel and if later i install another kernel i must reinstall the drivers?
[09:48] <mynick> newest, i love the fact you love ubuntu so much, but i would also just caution you, give it time.  don't wipe xp off until you are trully ready
[09:48] <newest> yeah, just that theres 20 gigs on ntfs, and only 7 gigs for ubuntu or ext3, so i was sorta hoping to merge the partition
[09:48] <mynick> usually it takes a couple of years to retrain your self into a comfort zone where you ust know you have everything and you can fix anything that maybe gets hosed
[09:48] <mynick> newest, for that i would just buy a second hd and install ubuntu on that, leave xp on this hd
[09:49] <newest> true that, will do
[09:49] <mynick> you should be able to put the other hd on a usb dealie and boot off of it if your motherboard is new enough
[09:49] <mynick> phiqtion, sorry say what?
[09:49] <newest> yup, coolies
[09:50] <Admiral> hello guys. I have a new ASUS P5B motheroard, I've installed Ubuntu on a IDE drive, but on first boot GRUB gave me error 21...
[09:50] <phiqtion> mynick: yesterday a new kernel was released i believe
[09:50] <boni_> i have run into a problem my /home partition is being dtected with unfixable errors by fsck ihave turned filesystem check off by editing fstab but can anyone help me out it says buffer i/o error
[09:50] <mynick> phiqtion, k.
[09:50] <phiqtion> mynick: after installing nvidia drivers i cant use latest kernel
[09:50] <mynick> phiqtion, with a new kernel a newer nvidia driver should of been installed as well
[09:51] <mynick> philip, log into recovery mode, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa as video driver
[09:51] <mynick> that will at least let you log into your desktop and get working and googling
[09:51] <mynick> you may need to remove the nvidia drivers and reisntall
[09:52] <mynick> did you install the nvidia drivers from the repo, or did you do it using either the nvidia installer or the oh so craptastic easy installer scripts that are out there?
[09:52] <Admiral> hello guys. I have a new ASUS P5B motheroard, I've installed Ubuntu on a IDE drive, but on first boot GRUB gave me error 21... I google it and it seems to be a problem with the JMicron controller, rather than with GRUB or Ubuntu. Can anyone help?
[09:52] <mynick> Admiral, that i think means it cant find the kernel
[09:52] <mackinac> nice, i want a P5B
[09:52] <Admiral> it can't find the disks
[09:53] <notgod> Hello.
[09:53] <n0cturnal_> evil mainboards... i just removed mine and put my gigabyte back in
[09:53] <mynick> Admiral,  oh wait, jmicron controller?
[09:53] <Admiral> I tried various settings in BIOS, no effect
[09:53] <mynick> i haven't heard of that
[09:53] <kaso> Is there any way to stop tooltips appearing on the task-bar at the bottom, they tend to get in the way
[09:53] <CharlieChester> look up "milone envy nvidia" to fix video issues.
[09:53] <mynick> sounds like the chipset isn't supported
[09:53] <gerald> can someone help me with dualhead and aticonfig??
[09:53] <boni_> i have run into a problem my /home partition is being dtected with unfixable errors by fsck ihave turned filesystem check off by editing fstab but can anyone help me out it says buffer i/o error pls tell me what to do
[09:53] <mynick> Admiral, is that actually called a jmicron chipset?  or is this an anvidia 6 chipset or something?
[09:53] <CharlieChester> there was a ubuntu mess up with the 2.6.17-11 kernel and the nvidia drivers
[09:53] <mackinac> kaso, kde or gnome?
[09:53] <kaso> gnome
[09:54] <CharlieChester> envy takes care of dependencies
[09:54] <Admiral> it's an intell chipse
[09:54] <Admiral> *chipset
[09:54] <Admiral> intel 965
[09:54] <mynick> boni_, that usually requires one of two things: mount the drive as slave and see if you can recover data (hopefully you have b ackups) or you haveto send it to a shop that specializes in recovring data
[09:54] <mynick> boni_, what file system?
[09:55] <mynick> Admiral, i can't remember the status on the support for that chipset, have you checked out if the kernel version has support built for that?
[09:55] <mynick> maybe the drivers aren't backported
[09:55] <gerald> can someone help me with dualhead and aticonfig
[09:55] <notgod> hey, how do I check the latest version of a package?  Say, for example, the latest release of Subversion is 1.4.3, but the package version is 1.3.something...  so do I need to build the latest myself?
[09:55] <mynick> which i had happen with nvidia chipset
[09:55] <Admiral> myknick: nope
[09:56] <n0cturnal_> I've just changed the mainboard in one of my pc's, and am now getting a kernel panic while trying to boot.. failed to sync. any ideas?
[09:56] <mynick> Admiral, yeah please google first .. uname -a to check kernel version on your system, the just a quick google should reveal if its supported
[09:56] <mynick> if it is we can work through a few things i guess, if its not thats the answer
[09:56] <Admiral> ok, can I install lilo from a liveCD, withut having a network connection active?
[09:56] <mynick> Admiral, i seriously doubt changing the bootloader will make a diference
[09:57] <ushaba> anyone have any experience setting up usbnet connections between ubuntu and another computer?
[09:57] <mynick> the only time it makes a difference is with some raid configurations
[09:57] <mynick> not sure if lilo is even included on livecd, if it is you should be able to installe it without net connection yes
[09:57] <mynick> n0cturna1_, just so someone answers i've never heard of that
[09:58] <Admiral> ok, thanks
[09:58] <n0cturnal_> mynick: lol alright
[10:01] <stinger_au> anyone here know how to setup QOS ?
[10:02] <stinger_au> or can point me in the right direction
[10:02] <gerald> i just built a bunch of .deb files from the ati drivers, what do i do next?
[10:02] <ushaba> again, anyone have any experience setting up usb network connections with ubuntu?
[10:03] <mynick> ushaba, not me.   your using a usb network converter dealie
[10:03] <mynick> ?
[10:03] <mynick> why aren't you using a proper ethernet device?
[10:03] <ushaba> well
[10:03] <a514> 1 question how do i get glx waving windows?
[10:03] <ushaba> I'm trying to connect a laptop to my desktop
[10:03] <norty> can someone please help me? I think i lost all my data when I installed ubuntu!!
[10:03] <mynick> !beryl
[10:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:03] <mynick> a514, with that
[10:03] <ushaba> the laptop is running vector and has no trouble at all with the idea
[10:03] <mynick> just be warned
[10:03] <ushaba> but ubuntu is unfriendly
[10:04] <norty> anyone?
[10:04] <mynick> it is very much in beta and has bugs
[10:04] <ushaba> 3d desktops are all pretty buggy...
[10:04] <ushaba> I'd steer clear
[10:04] <mynick> but the packages are installed from repo thus removing it now is easy if you need to
[10:04] <norty> i need help i think i lost everthing..
[10:05] <norty> I had 2 partitions on a 140 gig hd. 1 partition was for windows xp and it was 10 gigs, the rest was for all my data. I decided to install unbuntu so I used gparted live cd to resize the 130 gig into 1 10 gig for which I mounted the root file system of unbuntu and another 4 gig that i used for the swap partition. Everything installed fine but when I went back to into xp I can only see my 1 10 gig partition, I cannot get to my now 125 gig part
[10:05] <phiqtion> how can i make DNS changes permanent to DNS?
[10:05] <mynick> ushaba, what is vector and how is ubuntu unfriendly
[10:05] <phiqtion> how can i make DNS changes permanent to networking?
[10:05] <mynick> ushaba, typically from peoples experiences i haven't seen any successfull usb network connections ... they seem to require special drivers although i could be wrong
[10:05] <ushaba> vector linux is a slackware based distribution
[10:06] <ushaba> well, it's just a usb link cabler
[10:06] <ushaba> that connects two computers
[10:06] <mynick> phiqtion, in the same place you setup your ip address
[10:06] <ushaba> it shouldn't be that complicated if I can figure out where ubuntu thinks the usb connection is
[10:06] <mynick> ushaba, it works on slack but not ubuntu?
[10:06] <ushaba> that is how ubuntu is unfriendly
[10:06] <ushaba> yes
[10:06] <mynick> oh neat!
[10:06] <mynick> good to know
[10:06] <ushaba> ubuntu hides its secrets
[10:06] <ushaba> like a jealous schoolgirl
[10:06] <mynick> no not at all
[10:07] <a514> vector with the right monitor nvidia loaded from the cd
[10:07] <phiqtion> mynick: when i restart ubuntu the changes are not there
[10:07] <mynick> i just don't know the answer to that particula question  ... how do you tell slack to use a usb port as a network gateway?
[10:07] <a514> so beryl is not listed in the repos?
[10:07] <ushaba> yes
[10:07] <mynick> a514, no, go to #beryl
[10:07] <ushaba> vector is not really slackware though
[10:07] <mynick> it the topic they have the repo info
[10:07] <ushaba> it's sort of between ubuntu and slack in difficulty, I guess
[10:08] <mynick> it would be slacklike for something like that tho
[10:08] <mynick> anyway, just curious, how is that done?
[10:08] <mynick> i can tell you we don't have a gui for that
[10:08] <ushaba> well, I don't need a gui, I guess
[10:08] <norty> CAN ANYONE HELP ME!!?
[10:08] <ushaba> I just need a how-to or something
[10:08] <ushaba> hjaha
[10:09] <mynick> phiqtion, what do you mean? what did you do?
[10:09] <ushaba> the forums don't have anything on the matter except for connecting pdas
[10:09] <ushaba> norty is dying here
[10:09] <ushaba> what is the issue again?
[10:09] <mynick> ushaba, i thought you said networking over usb
[10:09] <mynick> what does a pda haveto do with networking over usb?
[10:09] <phiqtion> mynick: in networking i went to DNS and changed servers, closed and everything worked in session until i rebooted, DNS had same 192.168.0.1
[10:09] <ushaba> well, they're connecting the sharp zaurus
[10:09] <ushaba> which is linux based to a usb connection
[10:09] <ushaba> and they use the usbnet module to do it
[10:10] <ushaba> so it's loosely related
[10:10] <ushaba> obviously different than what I am after
[10:10] <mynick> phiqtion, system/admin/networkig/dns?
[10:10] <mynick> once you add yors in there it should stick, no?
 norty is dying here
[10:10] <norty> * anto9us has joined #ubuntu
 what is the issue again?
[10:10] <ushaba> there is a how-to for sharing internet access on the ubuntu forums, but I can't figure out where ubuntu thinks the connection is
[10:10] <norty> i think i lost all my data
[10:10] <norty> when i installed ubuntu
[10:10] <ushaba> ok
[10:10] <norty> !
[10:11] <ushaba> there's a couple of options
[10:11] <norty>  I had 2 partitions on a 140 gig hd. 1 partition was for windows xp and it was 10 gigs, the rest was for all my data. I decided to install unbuntu so I used gparted live cd to resize the 130 gig into 1 10 gig for which I mounted the root file system of unbuntu and another 4 gig that i used for the swap partition. Everything installed fine but when I went back to into xp I can only see my 1 10 gig partition, I cannot get to my now 125 gig par
[10:11] <mynick> norty, what was the data on ... windows?
[10:11] <ushaba> did you pave over the partition during the install?
[10:11] <norty> thats what happened
[10:11] <phiqtion> mynick: yes
[10:11] <mynick> or another linux?
[10:11] <norty> yea windows
[10:11] <norty> ntfs parition
[10:11] <ushaba> so the partition is gone or it's just not picked up?
[10:11] <mynick> norty, did you format over partition and install linux on it?
[10:11] <norty> im sure i didnt touch it when i installed ubuntu
[10:11] <ushaba> ok
[10:11] <norty> i cant see it in windows
[10:11] <mynick> norty okay do this
[10:11] <norty> but i found out its in linux-swap format now
[10:11] <norty> wtf
[10:11] <mynick> sudo fdisk -l
[10:11] <ushaba> what does your partition table look like?
[10:11] <mynick> that will show you all the partitions on the hd
[10:12] <norty> i already found all the partitions using a data recovery program
[10:12] <mynick> well if the partition exists no problem
[10:12] <norty> 1 is the xp windows partition in ntfs
[10:12] <mynick> its there we can even read it
[10:12] <ushaba> well, I'm curious what linux thinks is there
[10:12] <phiqtion> mynick: any suggestion?
[10:12] <mynick> then do what i told you
[10:12] <norty> the next is the one i want but its in linux-swap not ntfs
[10:12] <mynick> phiqtion, your dns is gone after you reboot? *hmm*
[10:12] <ushaba> that could be very bad...
[10:13] <ushaba> if it's in swap format
[10:13] <rapid_> is ndiswrapper included with ubuntu?
[10:13] <ushaba> because it would have to format everything to get that to be the case
[10:13] <mynick> ushaba, did you do what i told you?
[10:13] <phiqtion> mynick: yes, i have to save as location only way to keeping the settings but then when i reboot i must apply
[10:13] <ushaba> what did you tell me?
[10:13] <ushaba> I'm getting confused
[10:13] <mynick> ushaba, run the command and tell us if it tells you any of the partition are windows fat/ntfs
[10:13] <norty> fuck im positive i didnt choose that partition to use as linux-swap
[10:13] <mynick> ushaba, sorry ha!
[10:13] <mynick> sorry wrong nick :)
[10:13] <norty> ok hold on
[10:13] <norty> brbrbrbrbrbrb
[10:14] <rapid> anyone know if ubuntu server comes stock with ndiswrapper?
[10:14] <mynick> rapid, what do you mean stock?
[10:14] <rapid> standard
[10:14] <rapid> default
[10:14] <mynick> ubuntu server is just a different set of packages thats all
[10:14] <Flannel> rapid: yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:14] <mynick> it has access to all the same packages desktop does
[10:14] <rapid> ty
[10:14] <mynick> you can convert one from the other it makes no difference
[10:15] <ushaba> well
[10:15] <ushaba> my partitions are fine
[10:15] <ushaba> so I'm not worried about those
[10:15] <ushaba> I'm worried about my usb connection
[10:15] <ushaba> which admittedly is not life-threatening
[10:15] <Flannel> rapid: I don't believe it's on the serverCD though.
[10:16] <mynick> !dns
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <mynick> phiqtion, add the ip in your resolv.conf file
[10:16] <mynick> reboot and see if it sticks, it should
[10:16] <ushaba> mynick
[10:16] <ushaba> what were you saying?
[10:16] <phiqtion> mynick: where can i find that
[10:16] <mynick> phiqtion, /etc
[10:17] <mynick> ushaba, i think i was nick completing you when i meant the other dude, sorry
[10:17] <mynick> :)
[10:17] <mynick> ushaba, i just don't know how to get the tcpip stack to talk over a usb port
[10:17] <ushaba> ah, no worries
[10:17] <ushaba> ok
[10:17] <maxime63> ciao a tutti
[10:17] <phiqtion> thanks
[10:17] <mynick> np
[10:17] <ushaba> well
[10:17] <phiqtion> mynick thanks
[10:17] <norty> whats the command to list all partitions again?
[10:17] <mynick> sudo fdisk -l
[10:17] <ushaba> most distros seem to think that usb0 is a network interface
[10:17] <tcpip> how do i force pap authentication instead of chap
[10:17] <maxime63> ho un problema con il secondo hard disk, chi mi puo aiutare?
[10:17] <ushaba> but ubuntu does not
[10:18] <ushaba> so this is the main issue
[10:18] <ushaba> well
[10:18] <norty> that doesn't give a list that just trys to explain how but i dont understand it
[10:18] <norty> :(
[10:18] <ushaba> none of us speak your language, but I iundersrtand that you're having a problem with the second hard disk
[10:18] <mynick> why would any distro think usb0 is a network device instead of a usb0 device?
[10:18] <ushaba> well
[10:18] <ushaba> eth0
[10:18] <notgod> Is there a fonts packge that is easy to install and gives notably better fonrts than the defaults in ubuntu?
[10:18] <ushaba> usb0
[10:18] <ushaba> why not?
[10:18] <Flannel> !it | maxime63
[10:18] <ubotu> maxime63: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:19] <mynick> nope that works
[10:19] <ushaba> ow
[10:19] <ushaba> that ubotu is really smart
[10:19] <mynick> it gives me alist of partitions
[10:19] <adamonline45> OT: Is anyone more than happy with their IRC client for Mac? I need a quick suggestion... ;D
[10:20] <ushaba> http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
[10:20] <ushaba> I found this
[10:20] <ushaba> but I'm not sure what to make of it
[10:20] <norty> it doesn't give me a list
[10:20] <ushaba> am I supposed to bridge the thing?
[10:20] <mynick> norty, what is the error msg
[10:20] <tcpip> !pap
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <tcpip> !chap
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <norty> its not an error
[10:22] <norty> its just it gives me options of what i want to do
[10:22] <madbart> Could somebody help me with VPN connection setup?
[10:22] <norty> display partition tables
[10:22] <norty> is that what i want?
[10:22] <ushaba> I'll ask on the forums
[10:23] <ushaba> actually, a quick question to anyone who knows
[10:23] <adamonline45> !pure-FTPd
[10:23] <mynick> norty, well we are trying to figure out WHAT partitions are you on your hd
[10:23] <ushaba> is the new kernel upgrade not recommended or have the issues been resolved?
[10:23] <ubotu> pure-ftpd: Pure-FTPd FTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.21-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 150 kB, installed size 460 kB
[10:23] <mynick> it might be that you have linux installed on other partitions and it doesn't see win for some reason
[10:23] <mynick> so yes
[10:23] <mynick> you want to see partitions
[10:24] <norty> ok then it says:
[10:24] <mynick> you are looking for a windows partition, either in fat or ntfs
[10:24] <adamonline45> I wish ubotu gave the command line to install software that's inquired upon :(
[10:24] <norty> fdisk -l {-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK
[10:24] <norty> to display that
[10:24] <mynick> what?
[10:24] <norty> oops: [-b SSZ] 
[10:24] <mynick> just sudo fdisk -l is all is required
[10:24] <sacater> okay mates im having some trouble, my xfce desktop is on regular ubuntu-gnome. A few hours ago, I could load quite safely into xfce, however now, i get a gnome-coloured background and gnome-icons when i log in. The only things i have done lately is install Dasher and Battle for Wesnoth, and i hvae completetly removed those using synaptic
[10:24] <sacater>  http://omploader.org/file/Screenshot210.png
[10:24] <norty> ok
[10:24] <norty> let me try that
[10:24] <norty> i thought you typed 1 not l
[10:25] <mynick> !xubuntu
[10:25] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[10:25] <adamonline45> Does anyone know how to install Pure-FTPd at the CLI?
[10:25] <Nergar> i have edgy in sda2 and feisty in sda3, how do i mount feisty in edgy??
[10:25] <mynick> sacater, thats probably a better channel for that question
[10:25] <mynick> i don't use xfce so i can't help, just so someone answers
[10:25] <norty> ok i got it to display all my partitions
[10:25] <norty> what now
[10:26] <FantasticFoo> sorry for the noobish question, but when i'm configuring wireless internet, how do i know what to enter in for the "essid name"?
[10:26] <mynick> paste them on pastebin.ca or something
[10:26] <norty> ok hold on
[10:26] <mynick> lets see what we have, lets see if we can see a windows partition
[10:26] <FantasticFoo> i want to recognize the wireless connection
[10:26] <mynick> FantasticFoo, if you click on the pulldown menu it should give you a list of networks it sees
[10:26] <cherva> how do i resize my windows partition to give more space to my linux desktop ? I konw i have to use qtparted but the two filesystems must be unmounted rught ?
[10:26] <Flannel> cherva: right.  You'll want to use a liveCD
[10:26] <FantasticFoo> mynick: what pulldown?
[10:27] <mynick> FantasticFoo, if a network doesn't broadcast an essid, you will either need to remember what you set it up as or get that info from your provider (say corporate network admin or something)
[10:27] <norty> www.pastebin.ca/350246
[10:27] <norty> thats what i got
[10:27] <FantasticFoo> mynick: windows recognizes it perfectly fine
[10:27] <Alzi2> Hey. This is in KDE: Ever since i tried binding the program 'mednafen' to the .GBA filetype, when i open a file with no extension it gives this error two times: "Could not find the following mime-type: application/octet-stream". Can anyone help me fix this?
[10:27] <cherva> the live cd of ubuntu isn't booting i can use another distro right ?
[10:27] <mynick> FantasticFoo, the one in system/admin/networking ... when you click on the wireless device you get a pulldown field you can either type in or pulldown to see wireless networks
[10:28] <ushaba> to resize your windows partition
[10:28] <mynick> FantasticFoo, yeah, see we don't really care about windows :)
[10:28] <ushaba> you have to unmount that partition
[10:28] <ushaba> I think you can do it directly from gparted
[10:28] <ushaba> make sure gparted is installed first
[10:28] <mynick> FantasticFoo, typically windows is not usefull at all.  generally most manufacturers make drivers for win, but not for linux
[10:28] <ushaba> via synaptic
[10:28] <mynick> so its not really usefull if win can see it
[10:28] <norty> :x
[10:28] <ushaba> then open up gparted with sudo gparted
[10:28] <FantasticFoo> this is SOOO ridiculous. i followed a VERY clear tutorial of how to setup wireless on ubuntu edgy for my EXACT wireless card, and the damn thing still doesn't work!!
[10:28] <mateuszk> Hi
[10:28] <mynick> FantasticFoo, unfortunately you haveto research if your wireless card/chipset is supported
[10:28] <cherva> yes but i cant add the freed space to the linux part because it is mounted
[10:28] <ushaba> well
[10:29] <Flannel> cherva: right.  Any liveCD will do.
[10:29] <FantasticFoo> mynick: see my last text
[10:29] <ushaba> I think you can unmount it from within gparted
[10:29] <mateuszk> After upgrade to edgy I only have max 800x600 screen resolution
[10:29] <ushaba> I'm not sure
[10:29] <mateuszk> whats wrong?
[10:29] <cherva> ok i'll try with a live cd 10x
[10:29] <ushaba> if not, you'll just have to unmount it manually
[10:29] <norty> what do i do next?
[10:29] <mynick> FantasticFoo, well since i'm the one offering help, i refuse to scroll
[10:29] <mynick> post again pls
[10:29] <norty> http://www.pastebin.ca/350246
[10:29] <ushaba> oh wait, you've already deleted the windows partition?
[10:29] <ushaba> you can only add to the end of partitions
[10:29] <FantasticFoo> mynick: i know it's supported... i just have horrible luck
[10:29] <ushaba> not the beginning
[10:30] <FantasticFoo> mynick: everything i touch either gets lost, or brakes
[10:30] <mynick> FantasticFoo, *nod* i honestly haven't had weireless problems in about 2 years here ... i jsut buy supported stuff.  i plug in and just go
[10:30] <norty> i think the one i want is /dev/sda5
[10:30] <mynick> FantasticFoo, i know people like you :)
[10:30] <ushaba> about xfce
[10:30] <mynick> i mean that nicely
[10:30] <NETWizz> I ran this
[10:30] <stinger_au> Question: anyone in here know how i can setup QOS ?
[10:30] <NETWizz> sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8776-pkg1.run -n -s --x-prefix=/usr/lib/xorg/ --kernel-source-path=/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:30] <ushaba> I think the gnome colored background is just a relic
[10:30] <norty> somehow it got into linux-swap format
[10:30] <norty> !
[10:30] <ushaba> you can change that uinder the settings
[10:30] <NETWizz> only it was nvidia's newer driver
[10:30] <ushaba> manager
[10:30] <ushaba> for xfce
[10:30] <ushaba> the icons may be also used for xfce now
[10:30] <mynick> ushaba, the funny thing about open source is that you are welcome to change it
[10:31] <ushaba> you can change those under the settings manager too
[10:31] <ushaba> meaning?
[10:31] <mynick> the box doesn't phone back and ask for anctivation code after you change the wallpaper you know :)
[10:31] <ushaba> yes
[10:31] <mateuszk> ??:(
[10:31] <mynick> ushaba, meaning im giving you a hard time :)
[10:31] <ushaba> I'm not doing anything wrong
[10:31] <ushaba> I'm the usb person
[10:31] <ushaba> haha
[10:31] <norty> mynick do you know what i should do?
[10:31] <ushaba> I'm just a former xfce user
[10:31] <mynick> NETWizz, why in the world would you run that?
[10:31] <mateuszk> ;/
[10:31] <mateuszk> Please?
[10:32] <mateuszk> ;/
[10:32] <mynick> are you compiling your own nvidia modules? if so why?
[10:32] <storm> How can I get info pages for all my programs in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <mynick> the drivers are in the repos
[10:32] <NETWizz> to compile a kernel
[10:32] <NETWizz> a video driver for a kernel
[10:32] <mackinac> !resolution | mateuszk
[10:32] <ubotu> mateuszk: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:32] <mateuszk> I have a problem after upgrading to edgy I have only 800x600 and 640x480 resolutions. Any help ?
[10:32] <scrollzer> ushaba: if thats not it,it could be nautilus is managing your xfce session
[10:32] <mateuszk> mackinac, thx
[10:32] <mynick> ushaba, i was commenting on your note about ubuntu colours being relic
[10:33] <ushaba> hey, not ushaba
[10:33] <ushaba> I'm not using xfce
[10:33] <ushaba> haha
[10:33] <mynick> NETWizz, may i ask why?
[10:33] <ushaba> it's a simple gradient change
[10:33] <norty> any help?
[10:33] <ushaba> to whoever had the question originally
[10:33] <mynick> NETWizz, the drivers are compiled for you
[10:33] <mynick> and packaged
[10:33] <mynick> very nicely with a cherry on top
[10:34] <norty> heeelp
[10:34] <mynick> norty, url of yoru output?
[10:34] <mynick> so i can see?
[10:36] <norty> http://www.pastebin.ca/350246
[10:36] <norty> http://www.pastebin.ca/350246
[10:36] <mynick> k
[10:36] <mynick> yep your ntfs is there
[10:36] <mynick> the data should be there too
[10:36] <mynick> now
[10:36] <mynick> what do you want to do with that?
[10:36] <mynick> it almost sounds like you want to be able to boot back into windows, right?
[10:37] <cbx33> does grub by default use the device.map file that's in it's config dir?
[10:37] <MrMist> Hi all.. I've got a noob problem. There's no sound coming from my laptop... how do I find out what's wrong ?
[10:37] <mynick> all that has happened is the partitions haven't been mounted so you cant read them from ubuntu
[10:37] <mynick> its no biggie
[10:37] <norty> i need the partition that is like 120-125 gigs back
[10:37] <norty> i need the data on that partition
[10:37] <ushaba>  I thought his problem was that windows didn't know they existed though
[10:37] <norty> thats my problem
[10:37] <norty> i cant see it in windows
[10:38] <ushaba> if you mount those partitions, you can read the data, at least
[10:38] <FantasticFoo> yay!!!!!! FINALLY i get wireless working
[10:38] <norty> as long as I can get it back, either windows or ubuntu im fine
[10:38] <mynick> !ntfs
[10:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:38] <ushaba> and if you go through a how-to you can probably get them to work with write support ntf3
[10:38] <ushaba> nfs3?
[10:38] <ushaba> yeah!
[10:38] <FantasticFoo> now all i need is a handy dandy little menu that shows all available wireless networks
[10:38] <mynick> who knows the ntfs mount commands? i never use that at all
[10:38] <ushaba> that's what I was after
[10:38] <ushaba> this bot is awesome
[10:38] <FantasticFoo> instead of having to manually enter in ESSID
[10:39] <ushaba> hey fantastic foo
[10:39] <ushaba> try wifi radar
[10:39] <mynick> norty, well i would actually leave everything as is and do the following if you value your data:
[10:39] <ushaba> I had better luck with that than with gtk wifi
[10:39] <FantasticFoo> ushaba: ok
[10:39] <mynick> go and buy a second hd, install linux on that
[10:39] <mynick> then take this one and put it in a usb cradle
[10:39] <mynick> that will automagically mount everything, including ntfs
[10:39] <FantasticFoo> didn't somebody here say that there was one in the "networking" app that already comes with ubuntu?
[10:39] <mynick> you will be able to read all the ntfs/w95 stuff and do whatever you want with it
[10:40] <Deedis> how do you change so the hda2 can get write permissions from any user in ubuntu?
[10:40] <norty> i cant do it with what i have now?
[10:40] <mynick> probably you will want to burn it off or put it on a third hd for long term storage
[10:40] <mynick> norty, you can but considering you are a noob, you are close enough to hosing everyrhing
[10:40] <ushaba> well
[10:40] <mynick> we have established that the partition exists, so yay your data is there
[10:40] <FantasticFoo> mynick: yeah you were the one who told me. where exactly can i find that "pulldown menu" of wireless networks?
[10:40] <ushaba> well, the network app doesn't do roaming well
[10:40] <norty> you said all i need to do is mount it to see my data in linux
[10:41] <mynick> so my humble suggestion is to tiptoe around the issue, don't force it
[10:41] <norty> how do i mount it
[10:41] <ushaba> it's one of the gnome system tools
[10:41] <mynick> !mount
[10:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:41] <mynick> norty, you need to create a folder on your desktop, then mount the partition into that
[10:41] <mynick> i don't know the command off by heart i don't deal with ntfs at all, someone else know?
[10:41] <Deedis> how do you change so the hda2 can get write permissions from any user in ubuntu?
[10:41] <mynick> FantasticFoo, yeah so? how hard can it be? go look what i told you
[10:42] <cbx33> it's just mount -t ntfs /dev/dev /mnt/point
[10:42] <Nitro> Good morning. I edited the xorg.conf, and restarted the X'server, and installed beryl. But it didn't work. So, I edited the xorg.conf once again, but this time I didn't restart the X'server through the command. I simply restarted the computer. But, when I entered my username and pw, and pushed enter, the screen turned into some weird purple, followed by orange, a busy mouse, and suddenly I was back at the login screen, without any error me
[10:42] <FantasticFoo> mynick: i can't find it
[10:42] <mynick> FantasticFoo, /system/admin/networking
[10:42] <cherva> ok i've booted from a livecd and i resized my windows partition but i cant resize my linux part the resize butoon is grey
[10:42] <ushaba> beryl is the devil
[10:42] <mynick> is your wireless network card listed in there?
[10:42] <FantasticFoo> mynick: yeah im in there right now
[10:42] <ushaba> stay away lad
[10:42] <Flannel> Nitro: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[10:42] <Nitro> ok
[10:42] <ushaba> I think beryl needs its own forum
[10:42] <Nitro> But
[10:42] <ushaba> since so many people have problems with it
[10:42] <mynick> norty, there you go dude, what cbx33  said
[10:42] <norty> mynick so i just type: mount -t nfts /dev/dev /mnt/point and it will mount that partition?
[10:42] <Pooky> ushaba, #beryl?
[10:42] <Nitro> The problem isn't beryl excatly, I can't log on.
[10:42] <mynick> beryl does have its own forum whats the dealio?
[10:43] <FantasticFoo> mynick: yeah it is
[10:43] <norty> i will try that, be right back.. !!!!!
[10:43] <mynick> beryl is beta, its buggy it works for me flawlessly but i have supported hardware
[10:43] <ushaba> hmm
[10:43] <mynick> FantasticFoo, then double click on it ... c'mon its not that hard
[10:43] <ushaba> there is a beryl forum?
[10:43] <mynick> the gnome ui is self discoverable
[10:43] <Pooky> heh, I'm running it on an ati card on a macbookpro. Life is exciting.
[10:43] <Nitro> As I said, the screen turns purple right after entering username and pw.
[10:43] <mynick> ushaba, how can there not be? its a very popular project
[10:43] <ushaba> that's true
[10:43] <FantasticFoo> mynick: yeh, still doesn't automatically list anything
[10:43] <mynick> Pooky, oh hell dude, ati
[10:44] <mynick> Pooky, just go back to osx now
[10:44] <ushaba> apparently usbnet is not a popular project!
[10:44] <ushaba> haha
[10:44] <mynick> ati needs to simply be ignored on linux
[10:44] <ushaba> well
[10:44] <Deedis> how do you change so the hda2 can get write permissions from any user in ubuntu?
[10:44] <Flannel> Nitro: the problem is bad config, and it's sending you back to GDM.  If you've setup beryl to be a startup thing when logging into gnome, choosing "Safe Gnome" in sessions may fix the issue.
[10:44] <ushaba> ati has better laptop market share than nvidia
[10:44] <mynick> FantasticFoo, if nothing appears in the pulldown list, close down the networking deal and try again
[10:44] <erik1397> anyone own an xbox 360?
[10:44] <ushaba> ibm/lenovo
[10:44] <cherva> i've booted from a livecd and i resized my windows partition but i can't resize my linux part the resize butoon is grey what should i do ?
[10:44] <FantasticFoo> mynick: ok
[10:44] <norty> it said: mount - only root can do that
[10:44] <mynick> it sometimes needs time to do a scan properly
[10:44] <norty> WTF DOES THAT MENA
[10:44] <Pooky> I'll be getting an x86 comp for my next machine. I just need to find one I like.
[10:44] <Nitro> Flannel: thanks, I'll try. But, do you think it may, may be a X'server problem?
[10:44] <Pooky> norty, sudo mount...
[10:45] <mynick> FantasticFoo, however if it still doesn't show aything not sure, i would say get another wireless network card maybe
[10:45] <norty> ah
[10:45] <stork> what's good software for burning an .avi file to a dvd? (if there is any)
[10:45] <Nitro> Nero
[10:45] <Flannel> Nitro: it's most likely related in some way, shape, or form to beryl.  As to what is actually breaking... I have no idea
[10:45] <Deedis> how do you change so the hda2 can get write permissions from any user in ubuntu?
[10:45] <erik1397> stork: tovid
[10:45] <stork> Nitro, for linux?
[10:45] <mynick> norty, don't abuse the priviledge of free help :) we know you are scared and frustrated but give us a chance to help
[10:45] <Pooky> probably wrote some kind of beryl start script
[10:45] <Nitro> NreoLINUX
[10:45] <norty> ok ok thx
[10:45] <Nitro> *NeroLINUX
[10:45] <norty> but that doesnt work
[10:45] <vliegje20> does anyone know how to get bluetooth working under Ubuntu 6.06?
[10:45] <norty> it says /mnt/point doesnt exist
[10:46] <FantasticFoo> mynick: yeah that sounds good
[10:46] <Flannel> !burn | stork
[10:46] <ubotu> stork: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:46] <mynick> stork, gnome baker
[10:46] <mynick> i wouldn't bother installing nero on linux, there is no point
[10:46] <Pooky> I bet this place generates 100 quotes a day.
[10:46] <mynick> stork, you can also do places/cdburner
[10:46] <Deedis> how do you change so the hda2 can get write permissions from any user in ubuntu?
[10:46] <mynick> drag and rop
[10:46] <mynick> drp
[10:46] <mynick> drop even
[10:46] <mynick> heh
[10:46] <Pooky> norty, you need to make a mount point :) so, mkdir -p /mnt/point or something
[10:46] <ushaba> ok
[10:46] <ushaba> time to get off of here
[10:46] <Pooky> sudo even
[10:46] <hagabaka> i noticed the fiesty has a rubygems package. is it going to be in edgy?
[10:47] <Flannel> hagabaka: no
[10:47] <norty> make a mount point?
[10:47] <ushaba> adios
[10:47] <unop> Deedis,  by hda2, you mean /dev/hda2, right?
[10:47] <Deedis> unop: yep
[10:47] <Pooky> norty, when you mount something, you need to map it, man mount for more details.
[10:47] <mynick> norty, a mount point is just a folder
[10:47] <hagabaka> ok, i can just install it myself then :)
[10:47] <mynick> create a folder on your desktop already
[10:47] <norty> ok
[10:47] <norty> i did
[10:47] <unop> Deedis,  well, you apply permissions from the mount-point -- is the device mounted?
[10:47] <mynick> c'mon its not fair to ask us to repeat everything
[10:47] <erik1397> stork: you can convert an avi video to dvd format and burn it to a dvd with Tovid: Make DVD Videos Using Tovid
[10:47] <norty> do i replace mnt/point with mnt/MYFOLDER
[10:47] <norty> ?
[10:48] <Pooky> norty, nod.
[10:48] <Deedis> unop: the device is mounted yes.. but cant write anything to it with my regular user only root
[10:48] <mynick> norty, then use cf's command above and just point it to the right folder path
[10:48] <erik1397> oops
[10:48] <mynick> thats it
[10:48] <erik1397> heres the link
[10:48] <erik1397> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936
[10:48] <mynick> norty, yep
[10:48] <norty> ok
[10:48] <norty> if its on desktop shouldnt it be desktop/WHATEVER
[10:48] <andou> how do I get out of vi?
[10:48] <Deedis> unop: the thing is, how do you apply write permissions without beeing forced to do it everytime you start up ubuntu
[10:48] <Flannel> andou: :q
[10:48] <vliegje20> does anyone know how to get bluetooth working under Ubuntu 6.06? i tried alot of things but it isnt working
[10:48] <andou> Flannel : Hehe. THank you :)
[10:48] <Flannel> Deedis: umask
[10:48] <Deedis> unop: i guess it is in /etc/fstab but i have no idea what to type there
[10:48] <unop> Deedis,  just to make sure, this is not a NTFS drive, is it?
[10:49] <Deedis> unop: nope, ext3
[10:49] <mynick> norty, /home/YOUUSERNAME/Desktop/folder
[10:49] <erik1397> vliegje20: what have you exactly tried?
[10:49] <Tidge> hi all, does ubuntu have support for D-Link USB adapters? ive set up dual boot Ubuntu/XP but my Ubuntu is useless because I cant get it to connect to the net wirelessly
[10:49] <unop> Deedis,  errm, what kind of stuff exists on this partition?
[10:50] <Deedis> unop: nothing atm. going to have it for storage stuff
[10:50] <scrollzer> mynick: you sure have stamina good luck and good night:)
[10:50] <norty> ok i created the folder and everthing but now it says special device dev/dev doesnt exist
[10:50] <mynick> Tidge, is that a wireless adapter?
[10:50] <vliegje20> erik1397: i tried this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75978&highlight=bluetooth and some other howto's also for gnome bluetooth but gnome and kdeblutooth see my phone but i can't browse it
[10:50] <mynick> if so probably not
[10:51] <unop> Deedis,  ok, let's say it's mounted in /media/hda2 .. run this command - sudo chmod 7777 /media/hda2
[10:51] <Deedis> unop: it worked! :)
[10:51] <unop> Deedis,  errm, sorry - sudo chmod 777 /media/hda2
[10:51] <Tidge> hi mynick, yeah its a USB wireless adapter, it links up to my netcomm router, i can see that this would be a nightmare to set up, if it doesnt work i'll just use XP, it works there
[10:52] <Deedis> unop: but can i type in anything in fstab so i dont have to do this everytime i reboot?
[10:52] <erik1397> vliegje20: hmm...maybe your phone's hardware simply is incompatible with ubuntu (it happens sometimes
[10:52] <mynick> Tidge, i'll add that to my todo list, i gotta look into it.  i've yet to talk to anyone that has had one work
[10:52] <mynick> Tidge, it has nothing to do with linux
[10:52] <unop> Deedis,  this setting sticks -- but you should try and lock down the permissions now as anybody and everybody can write to it
[10:52] <mynick> Tidge, if the manufacturers just gave us hardware specs like they used to i would hire people to write the drivers
[10:52] <Nitro> Flannel: It can't be beryl, even with Safe GNOME, I get the purple screen, and back to gdm.
[10:52] <mynick> but they don't want to play nice
[10:53] <fergofrog> i just installed ubuntu on to my old computer, i have 2 harddrives on it and i am putting it on the secondary hd, i have windows 98 on the primary hd, when i turn the pc on GRUB loads but it says Error 5... and it just stops...
[10:53] <Flannel> Deedis: mirror the other lines in umask (rw,user--etc)
[10:53] <mynick> we do what we can
[10:53] <Deedis> unop: well is that a bad thing? since all users on this comp should have access to it
[10:53] <Tidge> ok thankyou, the thing is it came with an installer cd for windows and i got it to work there but i like ubuntu so was wondering if its possible for it to work
[10:53] <Flannel> Nitro: that doesn't mean it's not beryl. It just means you didn't use a gnome startup script to start beryl.  (I have no idea how you peoplecurrently do it)
[10:53] <Deedis> Flannel: cant understand you.. first time ever using linux so :)
[10:53] <fredl> hmm my nvidia driver won't load anymore after the most recent kernel update.
[10:53] <vliegje20> erik1397: ok thats possible but when i browse with nautilus the howto says i have to put bluetooth:// in the ctrl + L but then it says it cant find bluetooth the same goes for konqueror
[10:54] <mynick> Nitro, what happens when you do beryl-manager from terminal?
[10:54] <Flannel> Deedis: in your fstab, you see plenty of other lines, just mirror one of those.  Like /home or whatnot.
[10:54] <vliegje20> erik1397: they just cant find the bluetooth location
[10:54] <Nitro> mynick: I can't log on.
[10:54] <Flannel> Deedis: or, if you only have a root partition, just like that, except without the errors=remount-ro
[10:54] <mynick> Nitro, that has nothing to do with beryl
[10:54] <fergofrog> i just installed ubuntu on to my old computer, i have 2 harddrives on it and i am putting it on the secondary hd, i have windows 98 on the primary hd, when i turn the pc on GRUB loads but it says Error 5... and it just stops...
[10:54] <unop> Deedis,  well, thats ok then -- but if you want user A to not enter a directory owned by user B .. you should lock down user A's directories
[10:55] <Nitro> Neither do I think so.
[10:55] <norty> I got 1 to mount
[10:55] <Nitro> Can it be a bad config of xorg.conf?
[10:55] <norty> i tried to open it but it said i dont have permision to see the contents
[10:55] <Deedis> unop: well that is not a problem :)
[10:55] <norty> how do I see the contents?
[10:55] <Deedis> thanks for your help Flannel, unop !
[10:56] <unop> Deedis,  you should do what flannel suggested too
[10:56] <Deedis> yeah im doing it right now
[10:56] <unop> Deedis,  yw :)
[10:56] <Deedis> i have a loong UUID though
[10:56] <Deedis> is that the ony i should copy from the / partition ?
[10:56] <mynick> Nitro, hard to say ... i tend to reinstall when i run into something like that, its just faster than trying to debug it
[10:56] <mynick> Nitro, sorry for the non answer, just being practical
[10:56] <unop> Deedis,  errm, you dont need the UUID .. just use /dev/hda2 there
[10:57] <Deedis> unop: the /dev/hda2 is there
[10:57] <Deedis> unop: it has "defaults" as options
[10:58] <erik1397> v20: i just dont know what to tell u man, i cant really help u
[10:58] <busfahrer`> Hi. How/where do I tell the system to start 'beryl' (and perhaps the manager) automatically at start? I tried sessions->startup programs, but when I add it there, I get the effect, but the windows dont have titlebars and frames anymore (as in, no WM I think). Any idea?
[10:58] <unop> Deedis,  change the "defaults" part to match those of /home or /
[10:58] <vliegje20> ok thanx anyway
[10:58] <Flannel> busfahrer`: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[10:58] <frogzoo> !beryl | busfahrer`
[10:58] <ubotu> busfahrer`: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <Deedis> unop: well the / only has "defaults,errors=remount-ro"
[10:59] <busfahrer`> thanks
[10:59] <Deedis> unop: so it should be correct? although it isnt
[10:59] <master5o1> ooblock
[10:59] <adamonline45> !ftp
[10:59] <master5o1> frup ?
[10:59] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:59] <yaman> need help here i can't install the new version of the opera browser because it tells Error : conflicts with the installed package 'opera'  but even if i try to remove the old one it wont it tells that removed successfully but it still in my computer !!
[10:59] <adamonline45> !ftpd
[10:59] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:59] <r_rehashed> hi all
[10:59] <fergofrog> please help me i just installed ubuntu on to my old computer, i have 2 harddrives on it and i am putting it on the secondary hd, i have windows 98 on the primary hd, when i turn the pc on GRUB loads but it says Error 5... and it just stops...
[10:59] <FantasticFoo> just out of curiousity, is the "signal strength" thing supposed to work in ubuntu when detecting wireless network signal strengths? because my signal strength is always at 100%
[10:59] <unop> Deedis, ahh n/m .. you're set to go :p
[10:59] <r_rehashed> man... I can't wait for Feisty and try out Virtualisation
[10:59] <Deedis> unop: hm, ok i havent made any changes to fstab now then
[11:00] <adamonline45> !ftpd
[11:00] <Deedis> unop: so it should work from now?
[11:00] <r_rehashed> when is Feisty scheduled?
[11:00] <unop> Deedis,  if i were you -- i'd change the "default" part to "defaults,errors=remount-ro"  -- save and do a -  sudo mount -a
[11:00] <Illuvator> r_rehashed - April is it not - 7.04
[11:00] <unop> Deedis,  and yes, it'll work from now on
[11:00] <unop> :)
[11:01] <Deedis> unop: thanks alot my friend!
[11:01] <adamonline45> !ftpd
[11:01] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[11:01] <r_rehashed> illuvator: ohh.. man that's some time...
[11:01] <yaman> yaman [11:01] <r_rehashed> this is what uname -a tells me, 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP
[11:02] <r_rehashed> shoudn't it really recognise the processor as a core 2 from intel to utilise the VT technology to the fmax?
[11:02] <adamonline45> Oh gosh, Ubotu's failing me... is there anyone who's got an FTP server they're happy with; solo user; for CLI-only?
[11:02] <unop> yaman,  how did you try and remove opera there?
[11:02] <Illuvator> r_rehashed: Ubuntu runs on a 6month release time which is pretty short, but yeah, fiesty's not out as a final til april - you can tell the release dates from the number - 6.06 was released in June 06, 6.10 October 06, 7.04 April 07, and 7.10 October 07
[11:03] <unop> adamonline45,  i found vsftp good
[11:03] <r_rehashed> oh it's like that!?
[11:03] <adamonline45> unop: Cool, may I ask what you use it for?  I just need to remotely send files to my FT server...
[11:03] <r_rehashed> :P and I kept wondering why they have weird version numbering
[11:04] <adamonline45> unop: er, to my web server, via whichever FTP server I choose...
[11:04] <adamonline45> !vsftp
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <norty> I got it to mount but when i tried to see its contents it says i dont have permission, how do i get permission?
[11:04] <r_rehashed> was the core 2 released by intel after edgy?
[11:04] <mynick> i like vstpd, very nice and easy to config
[11:05] <unop> adamonline45,  I share things with family and friends, it's storage for my webserver too .. otherwise, it's where i store stuff i'd need to access on the move
[11:05] <mynick> you just gotta remember to read the /etc/ config file for it after install as its locked down
[11:05] <unop> !vsftpd | adamonline45
[11:05] <ubotu> adamonline45: vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[11:05] <r_rehashed> 'cos I don't think full support for core 2s is implemented in edgy
[11:05] <yaman> unop : apt-get remove opera and i tryed the packager gui program
[11:06] <norty> anyone know how i get an permission to view the contents of a folder?
[11:06] <unop> yaman,  ok, run this command again and use a !pastebin to paste what you see there -- sudo aptitude purge opera
[11:06] <adamonline45> unop: Am I barking up the wrong tree if I'm just looking to remotely send files to my webserver? And I'm going to be the only one actually FTPing?
[11:06] <unop> norty,  which folder would this be?
[11:06] <adamonline45> mynick: Thank you :)
[11:06] <mynick> norty, so you have it mounted?
[11:06] <mynick> congrats
[11:06] <yaman> unop: thanx i ll try it now
[11:07] <mynick> adamonline45, i don't remember for what, but okay -_-
[11:07] <norty> yes i do
[11:07] <norty> i got it mounted
[11:07] <norty> but i dont have permission to view its contents
[11:07] <mynick> are you breathing yet?
[11:07] <norty> no1
[11:07] <norty> :X
[11:07] <unop> adamonline45,  you can send files using sftp which runs over ssh .. it's much better than ftp especially since ftp is a little insecure and you dont really want to be using it on your webserver
[11:08] <norty> how do i get permission
[11:08] <mynick> norty, chown R youruser.yourusergroup /home/YOURUSER/Desktop/folder
[11:08] <mynick> thats first
[11:08] <mynick> sorr -R
[11:08] <mynick> then
[11:08] <norty> i dunno what my usergroup is
[11:08] <mynick> chmod -R 777 /home/YOURUSER/Desktop/folder to get permissions on the drive
[11:09] <Kristov> hi
[11:09] <mynick> norty, same as your name usually unless you changed it manually
[11:09] <unop> mynick,  ~ /Desktop/folder  is enough
[11:09] <norty> ok i will try those
[11:09] <norty> brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb
[11:09] <unop> ~/Desktop/folder
[11:09] <mynick> unop, hes a noob, he has to know the proper paths first
[11:09] <unop> mynick,  even better to use ~/ if he's a noob .. :)
[11:09] <mynick> i don't like to teach noobs too many shortcuts at first, but yeah norty that would work
[11:10] <mynick> unop, wrong
[11:10] <mynick> sorry
[11:10] <mynick> noobs HAVETO understand the file structure, their reference to c: has to be broken at the root
[11:10] <unop> mynick, wrong? heh? this has been convention for over 30 years
[11:10] <mynick> its a shortcut not a convention
[11:10] <adamonline45> unop: Okay, that sounds interesting.  I'm just trying to avoid the hassle of sending files via SSH's 'scp' command, otherwise ssh would work fine... I'll look into sftp :)  thank you!
[11:10] <mynick> and noobs haveto know the filesystem first
[11:10] <yaman> unop : i got the same error message when i try to install the new version "error: conflicts with the installed package 'opera'"
[11:10] <mynick> shortcuts come after you gain experience
[11:10] <unop> mynick,  better yet to get them accustomed to the shortcuts that stick and that they'll use
[11:11] <mynick> unop, i mean imho btw :)
[11:11] <mynick> unop, no, its not better
[11:11] <mynick> it obfuscates real knowledge
[11:11] <darweth> Does anyone know how to disable Monitor sleep in gconf-editor?  ac_sleep_display in gnome-power-manager is to 0... but it still sleeps.
[11:11] <mynick> shortcuts are meant to be shortcuts for real knowledge they dont replace it
[11:11] <unop> yaman,  i asked the output you see when removing the package and now you tell me something else
[11:11] <yaman> unop: even purg command doesn't work ! :(
[11:11] <unop> purge*
[11:11] <unop> yaman,   sudo aptitude purge opera
[11:13] <yaman> unop : nothing i got it tells purging configuration files for opera then it come back again to the shell as it's done  because it tells me removing opera  but if i write opera in the terminal it ll start the old opera
[11:13] <unop> mynick,  do you know why ~ was implemented -- to get around the whole thing of /home/$USER (or worse on systems where it was /pub/company/department/team/office/users/$USER) .. if its there to be used, why disown it?
[11:13] <mynick> unop, whos disowning it?
[11:13] <norty> i did ~/Desktop/folder and it said that yes folder is a directory
[11:13] <norty> then I did that chown.. and chmod stuff
[11:13] <unop> yaman,  hmm, did you install opera from source or another package?
[11:14] <norty> and it said permission denied
[11:14] <mynick> your teaching method is wrong first.  its second bad because it doesn't reinforce core knowledge.
[11:14] <norty> !
[11:14] <bouter> I ' ve had about enough of this *** I' ve been trying to install my linksys wmp54g card all day yesterday   reading and following all guides I could find on google    but helas
[11:14] <mynick> as a teacher thats your requirement, to teach them the fundamentals from day one, after that they can invent whatever conventions they choose
[11:14] <bouter> can anyone guide me trough it?
[11:14] <bouter> thru
[11:14] <meshyf> How do I get gDesklets to run at startup?
[11:15] <bouter> or however you write that
[11:15] <netsrot> anyone who knows how to set which soundcard to be /dev/dsp when using multiple?
[11:15] <yaman> unop: the old one i don't remember how i did the installation :P but the new pacakge is deb
[11:15] <unop> mynick,  please -- ~ stands for /home/$USER everyone knows that -- if someone's curious as to what it is, you tell them .. why are you being militant about forcing them to type it out?
[11:15] <mynick> unop, okay how about you go away now
[11:15] <mynick> i'm really not interested in what you have to say any more
[11:15] <bouter> I 'm using edgy
[11:15] <mynick> thank you
[11:15] <norty> mynick i did what you said but it said permission denied
[11:15] <unop> mynick,  look .. even norty used ~ .. i wonder why?
[11:15] <mynick> bouter, is that a known supported card? is it on the list on the wiki?
[11:16] <mynick> unop, i thought i asked you to go away? can  yo shut the hell up now?
[11:16] <yaman> 929 users unop the only one hellping us :)
[11:16] <yaman> helping*
[11:16] <mynick> norty, did you use sudo?
[11:16] <norty> doh!
[11:16] <norty> <- so so stupid
[11:16] <unop> yaman,  well, apt is only going to know about those installed by it .. it doesnt know about third party installations
[11:16] <norty> brbrbrbrbrbrb
[11:16] <andou> I'm following a LAMP install guide, and I did this: vi /etc/fstab How do I get out of 'vi'?
[11:16] <mynick> no no don't worry
[11:17] <mynick> its common, you want your files back :)
[11:17] <trollboy> is there some sort of firewall on by default on ubuntu?
[11:17] <bouter> mynick I would hope so  where can I check
[11:17] <unop> yaman,  what does this command return?  which opera
[11:17] <trollboy> I'm unable to connect via smb, nfs, or with synergy
[11:17] <bouter>  Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[11:17] <mynick> bouter, search for wireless cards on the ubuntu wiki at ubuntu.com ... there is a large list of known working cards
[11:17] <mynick> bouter i just buy off of that, plug it in and it works
[11:17] <andou> How can I get back to a command line?
[11:17] <mynick> if it doesn't i return it and get one that is
[11:18] <mynick> andou ctrl/alt/f1
[11:18] <sontek> Does anyone know if gedit pulls from the same mime types as gnomevfs-info?  Because I have a file (.ashx) that gnomevfs has a mimetype for but when I open it up in gedit it reads it as text/plain
[11:18] <andou> mynick: thanks, but it's not doing anything.
[11:18] <yaman> unop: it ll start the old opera but wht some errors "errrors libjvm.so" and libawt.so but it start
[11:18] <norty> now that i mounted the partition in linux, can i still access it in windows?
[11:19] <mynick> andou, not sure, ctrl/alt/f1....f5 should be all terminal sessions
[11:19] <D-G> Hey folks. I need small assistance as most of people here. How can i get skype to my ubuntu 6.10 with amd64 ? ;p Tried almost all the things i found on google.com/linux but coulndt get. From skype.com i cant install because of i386 ;[ And some bugs with converting from rpm to deb ;p
[11:19] <trollboy> anyone see my question?
[11:19] <D-G> Any ideas ?
[11:19] <andou> mynick: I'm following a LAMP install guide. I did this: vi /etc/fstab
[11:19] <unop> yaman, ok, since you arent listening to what i have to say? what are you trying to do now, exactly?
[11:19] <bouter> mynick     Linksys
[11:19] <bouter> 
[11:19] <bouter> WMP54G (Ver.4)
[11:19] <bouter> 
[11:19] <bouter> Ralink
[11:19] <bouter> 
[11:19] <mynick> andou, okay, so your in the gnome terminal probably?
[11:19] <bouter> ?
[11:19] <bouter> 
[11:19] <bouter> Yes
[11:19] <bouter> 
[11:19] <andou> mynice: there's no GUI
[11:19] <bouter> Yes
[11:19] <unop> !paste | bouter
[11:19] <ubotu> bouter: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:19] <mynick> bouter, don't post please
[11:19] <bouter> 
[11:19] <bouter> Detected in Network Settings as ra0 and started working after WAP details were input
[11:19] <bouter> 
[11:19] <andou> mynick: thre's no GUI
[11:20] <bouter> 2005-10-17
[11:20] <bouter> 
[11:20] <bouter> PCI
[11:20] <bouter> oops sorry
[11:20] <mynick> andou, gui for what? apache?
[11:20] <unop> andou,  ALT+F2 .. gnome-terminal
[11:20] <bouter> mynick   sorry my bad    but as you can see my card should be supported 'out of the box'... but it isn' t
[11:20] <andou> mynick: I don't know what you mean by gnome terminal. I thought gnome was a GUI. I'm quite new to this.
[11:21] <mynick> andou, oh thats okay we'll work through it
[11:21] <andou> mynick: I see. So, I should just use a different terminal?
[11:21] <yaman> unop: just i am trying to install the new version of opera "but its not letting me do it because the old version is installed"
[11:21] <unop> andou,  gnome-terminal gives you a terminal .. and yes, it's a gui
[11:21] <bouter> mynick  there is no ra0     just  wlan0 and wmaster0    and that can' t be right
[11:21] <andou> mynick: Thanks :)
[11:21] <mynick> applications / accessories / terminal is the command line
[11:21] <sontek> Does anyone know if gedit pulls from the same mime types as gnomevfs-info?  Because I have a file (.ashx) that gnomevfs has a mimetype for but when I open it up in gedit it reads it as text/plain
[11:21] <mynick> thats the gnome terminal
[11:21] <mynick> you can administer the whole system from there, its like the cmd.exe on windows dealie only actually usefull
[11:21] <ghostdog> i need help
[11:21] <mynick> bouter, *hmmm*
[11:21] <unop> yaman,  firstly you need to remove this old version of opera you installed -- and since it is a 3rd party install you'll need to do some hunting
[11:21] <andou> mynick: Ok. I got it, thanks :)
[11:22] <D-G> Does anyone can send me skype for amd64 ? ;[[
[11:22] <ghostdog> aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_CFLAGS' not found in library
[11:22] <ghostdog> aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_CXXFLAGS' not found in library
[11:22] <ghostdog> aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_CFLAGS' not found in library
[11:22] <unop> yaman, run this command - locate opera
[11:22] <ghostdog> help me :-s
[11:22] <D-G> through terminal that cant be done becuz dont accept 386 ;[
[11:22] <mynick> andou, typically a gui refers to applications with lots of pulldown menues and widgets ... hard to put into words now that i think about it
[11:22] <mynick> heh
[11:22] <mynick> bouter, okay out of the box, it should just appear in system / admin / networking
[11:23] <mynick> bouter, you don't see the card in there?
[11:23] <trollboy> just confirmed, ssh doesn't work either
[11:23] <arnducky> !pastebin | ghostdog
[11:23] <ubotu> ghostdog: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:23] <mynick> trollboy, you mean to ssh into you box our out?
[11:23] <bouter> mynick yes and there I see   wlan0 and wmaster0   it created 2 wireless connections  where  the wmaster0 is some kind of ghost
[11:23] <trollboy> into
[11:24] <bouter> mynick    no ra0 there
[11:24] <trollboy> I can't get any of my services on my local network
[11:24] <mynick> bouter, okay, can you double click on eitehr and see if it can pick up any networks?
[11:24] <trollboy> No ssh, no nfs, no smb, no synergy
[11:24] <mynick> trollboy, of course
[11:24] <mynick> they aren't installed by default
[11:24] <mynick> this is a desktop machine
[11:24] <mynick> however
[11:24] <trollboy> mynick, I installed them
[11:24] <mynick> sudo apt-get installs sshd
[11:24] <bouter> wlan0 can scan for networks    sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning      gives me all the networks in the area
[11:24] <G0SUB> mynick: your nick is breaking a few irssi rules
[11:24] <ghostdog> arnducky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5187/
[11:24] <mynick> trollboy, ah you installed sshd?
[11:25] <trollboy> and smb, and synergy
[11:25] <mynick> G0SUB, url?
[11:25] <trollboy> nfs was already on
[11:25] <arnducky> PlanarPlatypus: are you a flatty-pus?   (answer me in #~-offtopic if you like)
[11:25] <G0SUB> mynick: you didn't get me :)
[11:25] <norty> now that I mounted that partition, can I still access it in windows?
[11:25] <bouter> mynick so I tried connection directly in  /etc/network/interfaces   gave it a fixed IP    but nothing works
[11:25] <mynick> G0SUB, lol, i miss a lot being a dumbass
[11:25] <yaman> unop: what should i answer :| its too many lines :P , but it says there is opera in the share folder i think the main folder
[11:25] <mynick> heh
[11:25] <Lynoure> trollboy: did you verify they actually listen on a port?
[11:25] <trollboy> yes
[11:25] <mr_daniel> this is funny http://www.nvidiaclassaction.org/
[11:25] <mynick> bouter, no no, try the gui, just curious if it lets you do anything on either
[11:25] <G0SUB> mynick: don't worry ... :)
[11:26] <bouter> mynick    gui doesn' t let me connect either
[11:26] <trollboy> although zebrasrv takes up ssh's port
[11:26] <mr_daniel> unbelievable how extrem the vista-user react, when a driver isn't working 100% perfectly
[11:26] <Lynoure> trollboy: Any firewalls on either machine or between them?
[11:26] <unop> yaman, please use a !pastebin and show us .
[11:26] <unop> !pastebin | yaman
[11:26] <ubotu> yaman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:26] <mynick> bouter, oh bizarro ... dude i'll kinda just say right now that i don't know how to proceed.  there is definately a system issue
[11:26] <aaron> http://digg.com/tech_news/Sound_Off_On_Vista_DirectX10_drops_Hardware_Acceleration_for_Audio
[11:26] <trollboy> Nope
[11:27] <bouter> mynick,   wmaster0 doesnt support scanning   and wlan0 does but I just can' t connect
[11:27] <arnducky> ghostdog: I don't even know what gambas is -- but thanks for figuring out pastebin
[11:27] <mynick> bouter, it could be a chipset issue ... maybe something changed as manufacturers do that without notification
[11:27] <trollboy> unless ubuntu has one on by default
[11:27] <bouter> mynick   bugger
[11:27] <mynick> bouter, or it could be a driver issue, i just don't know :/ i'm sorry bro
[11:27] <ghostdog> arnducky: http://gambas.sourceforge.net/
[11:27] <bouter> Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI   this is what lspci gives me for the card
[11:28] <mynick> yeah thats the weird thing, it clearly recognizes it
[11:28] <mynick> it loaded the drivers
[11:28] <mynick> it makes the device points
[11:28] <ghostdog> arnducky: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/gambas
[11:28] <mynick> but it does it in a totally weird way i've not seen before
[11:28] <ghostdog> arnducky: i want install packet gambas2
[11:28] <yaman> ubotu: i am chating from another computer ( i think i hate opera :P ) i ll keep working on the firefox thanx any way i botherd you enough
[11:28] <bouter> it should be supported    I user ndiswrapper    no succes      I upgraded firmware  no succes    I tried some other things that some site gave me    no succes
[11:28] <arcade> Hmf.  I've got a camera, and trying to get it to work with Ubuntu.  Previously they would work as USB Mass Storage devices, but now I can't even find it in /proc .. the kernel detects it, and I get a popup in KDE, but when I open the camera, it's "empty"  .. and I can't find a /dev to mount it manually from.,
[11:29] <unop> bouter,  did you say iwlist scan lists networks around you?
[11:29] <bouter> friggin' linux   :)    why can' t all companies support linux?
[11:29] <arcade> Seems to have gotten difficult between 6.06 and 6.10 :-/
[11:29] <bouter> yes it does
[11:29] <henri_> hi guys! i've just booted after a feisty upgrade (thought i'd ask in here as it doesn't seem to feisty-specific) - now i can't login normally to my desktop (gnome)! i can login via failsafe mode - i've tried disabling all my startup scripts in the control centre but normal login still doens't work! .xsession-errors contains a few at the end about io errors to the session manager - but how can i begin to diagnose what's going wrong there?
[11:29] <bouter> unop yes it does
[11:29] <mynick> bouter, totally
[11:29] <unop> bouter,  here's what you need  http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking
[11:29] <assasuka> hi everyone
[11:29] <trollboy> so any ideas?
[11:29] <assasuka> i wish to hold my kernel and not upgrade it, since i compiled many drivers for it, how can i do that
[11:30] <Lynoure> trollboy: no, I think not. Are you connecting by ip or by name? If by name, try with ip too.
[11:30] <Pooky> Anti aliasing seems to be "off" for me, anyway to test for sure?
[11:30] <aleguirec> hi everyone
[11:30] <mynick> assasuka, do you have your old kernel still on the system?
[11:30] <trollboy> Tried both
[11:30] <mynick> if so just sudo apt-get remove --purge new kernel
[11:30] <Pooky> for example, firefox, looks bad...
[11:30] <aarohi> i need to set a few options for kde applications on ubuntu. what should i do?
[11:30] <henri_> aarohi: options like what?
[11:30] <norty> mynick, i did those commands chmod and the other one and it did a whole lot of stuff but i still cannot access the contents of the folder!!!
[11:30] <mynick> aarohi, probably best asked in #kubuntu ... just a guess.  personally i don't know kde very well
[11:31] <aarohi> henri_: neither konversation or amaroK have icons in the system tray near the clock
[11:31] <assasuka> mynick i didnt install the new one, i just say update manager wanted to..
[11:31] <Jerusalem420> shalom all.
[11:31] <Jerusalem420> so the dreaded has come
[11:31] <Lynoure> trollboy: I try not to get too deep into pro bono work on weekends. So that's pretty much it from me today. Next tool would be traceroute, I guess.
[11:31] <Jerusalem420> i have to reinstall windows for work
[11:31] <aleguirec> i have just a stupid question : how can i do to have gaim launch utomaticaly at startup ?
[11:31] <henri_> aarohi: sounds like a #kubuntu queston :p
[11:31] <henri_> aleguirec: add it to your startup programs
[11:31] <Jerusalem420> I want to set up a dual boot machine
[11:31] <henri_> there's a menu somewhere
[11:31] <aarohi> henri_: thanks
[11:31] <Jerusalem420> can anyone direct ot the best faq for dual boot set up?
[11:32] <aleguirec> henry: where is the startup program ?
[11:32] <stylus> If I installed ubuntu 6.06, could I upgrade to 6.10 from in that?
[11:32] <mackinac> !dualboot
[11:32] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:32] <Jerusalem420> I would like to do it w/o having to reinstall ubuntu
[11:32] <mynick> assasuka, well by defintion you did install it then :) its okay if the old one is still in your grub menu, you can just go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and modify the order on the bottom to boot into yours
[11:32] <henri_> aleguirec: from memory, i believe it's under system -> administration
[11:32] <henri_> can anyone help me with these x errors? irssi's only fun on a desktop for so long
[11:32] <aleguirec> henri: thank's i dig that way :)
[11:33] <henri_> => i've just booted after a feisty upgrade (thought i'd ask in here as it doesn't seem to feisty-specific) - now i can't login normally to my desktop (gnome)! i can login via failsafe mode - i've tried disabling all my startup scripts in the control centre but normal login still doens't work! .xsession-errors contains a few at the end about io errors to the session manager - but how can i begin to diagnose what's going wrong there?
[11:33] <tororm> !xserver
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <arcade> Okay, I'll try again.
[11:33] <tororm> !xserv
[11:33] <arcade> I've got a camera, and trying to get it to work with Ubuntu.  Previously they would work as USB Mass Storage devices, but now I can't even find it in /proc .. the kernel detects it, and I get a popup in KDE, but when I open the camera, it's "empty"  .. and I can't find a /dev to mount it manually from.,
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <tororm> !xorg
[11:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:33] <arcade> I can't find it in /dev , I mean. :P
[11:33] <assasuka> mynick i didn't click on install, so it still didnt download, however i don't want it to keep asking me to download 25Mb kernels and headers here and there, since i don't need
[11:33] <unop> Jerusalem420,  when reinstalling windows -- just make sure you dont format the ubuntu partitions , you should be ok .. once windows is installed have a look at !grub
[11:33] <unop> !grub | Jerusalem420
[11:33] <ubotu> Jerusalem420: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:33] <SanguineAnomaly> hey guys: last week, I installed xubuntu on my laptop, and it took on average 5 minutes to boot each time - i have a 2.0Ghz duo core proc and 2048mb ram, and so this seems stupidly long
[11:33] <mynick> assasuka, okay so its not installed, then whats the problem?
[11:33] <SanguineAnomaly> anyone know why it took so long?
[11:33] <mynick> just don't tell it to install it next time either?
[11:33] <assasuka> mynick yes exactly
[11:34] <Jerusalem420> unop et al thanks
[11:34] <unop> Jerusalem420,  shalom :)
[11:35] <mynick> norty, *mmm*
[11:35] <mynick> norty, can you access any part of the hd? or just your personal profile folder?
[11:35] <unop> henri_,  can you give us a gist of what the xessesion errors are?
[11:35] <norty> what do you mean
[11:35] <norty> i can access everything in the partition for linux
[11:35] <norty> wait
[11:35] <norty> i think just my personal folder
[11:35] <mynick> norty, well maek sure
[11:35] <norty> how
[11:36] <Jowi> SanguineAnomaly, can be the network/dhcp initiation. how is it connected?
[11:36] <norty> can you mount a partition in ft linux-swap ?
[11:36] <mynick> norty, what do you mean? just double click on the folder on your desktop you created
[11:36] <SanguineAnomaly> Jowi, what exactly do you mean?
[11:36] <`ph8> just asec
[11:36] <`ph8> <--- henri
[11:36] <`ph8> just started my x session in failsafe gnome
[11:37] <SanguineAnomaly> i have it plugged into a router via an ethernet cable, if that's what you mean?
[11:37] <devilsadvocate> anyone here used conky?
[11:37] <devilsadvocate> can you tell me where the config file for conky can be found?
[11:37] <Jowi> SanguineAnomaly, I mean, when the network is started it tries to get an ip address. if that is not successful it can take forever and will make the boot take ages. disable the splash to see the boot messages and see if that is where it takes so long.
[11:37] <norty> can you mount a partition in ft linux-swap?
[11:38] <mynick> what?
[11:38] <`ph8> unop: Contents of my .xsession-errors here => http://www.pastebin.ca/350309
[11:38] <mynick> norty, do you ever do anything anyone asks you?
[11:38] <mackinac> holy...cow... firefox is using 45% cpu to download a file :\
[11:38] <mynick> norty, no you shouldn't be able to mount your own swap partition, and it would be dumb you couldn't do anything with it
[11:38] <mynick> its a swap area
[11:38] <arcade> I've got a camera, and trying to get it to work with Ubuntu.  Previously they would work as USB Mass Storage devices, but now I can't even find it in /dev .. the kernel detects it, and I get a popup in KDE, but when I open the camera, it's "empty"  .. and I can't find a /dev to mount it manually from.. which I could do with earlier versions .
[11:39] <SanguineAnomaly> Jowi, well, I no-longer have xubuntu installed, because i was getting annoyed - but i'm thinking of switching to ubuntu because gentoo isn't behaving
[11:39] <norty> the partition whre all my data was is now in the filetype linux-swap
[11:39] <SanguineAnomaly> so if the problem persists with that, I'll try your suggestion, :)
[11:39] <Jowi> SanguineAnomaly, yeah, disable the splash to see exactly what takes so long. it is not normal.
[11:39] <unop> `ph8,  is that all .. is there more thats not included here?
[11:39] <mynick> arcade, by previously you mean the same camera, or by previously you mean you had a camera before that was recognized as a mas storage device but your new one isnt?
[11:39] <mynick> norty, *blink*
[11:40] <Yodude> hey i downloaded the nvidia glx driver from the repository but t doesn't work!
[11:40] <mynick> norty just what the heck are you doing, are you even trying to follow instruction? how do you know its in your swap area?
[11:40] <`ph8> no that's it in its entirety
[11:40] <mynick> you don't have access to it
[11:40] <arcade> mynick: No, the same camera, but different kernels.
[11:40] <`ph8> do you know of a way to make it more verbose perhaps?
[11:40] <arcade> mynick: That is, ubuntu 6.06 worked nice.  6.10 doesn't.
[11:40] <`ph8> when logging on normally it always seems to crash at the 'nautilus' stage - but i don't know how accurate that is
[11:40] <mynick> besides you had two swap partitions in your partition list, if yoru data is in that partition consider it gone
[11:40] <arcade> mynick: 6.10 at least gave me a device in /dev I could mount manually.  6.10 doesn't.
[11:40] <arcade> uhm
[11:40] <arcade> 6.06 at least gave mne .. 6.10 doesn't.
[11:41] <Yodude> when i type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:41] <mynick> arcade, oh yeah there is some lameness in 6.10, i have had lots of weird stuff happen in 6.10
[11:41] <Yodude> i get this error: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[11:41] <Yodude> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[11:41] <GhoSt_DoG> all, i need help look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5188/
[11:41] <mynick> arcade, i would chalk that up to a bug and either wait for feisty or go back to previous
[11:41] <arcade> mynick: Well, the main lameness for me is that I don't even get it in /dev :P
[11:41] <assasuka> no idea how i can block the kernel version?
[11:41] <mynick> arcade, *nod*
[11:41] <andou> mynick: I couldn't seem to get out of vi without ctl-alt-del and restarting.
[11:41] <arcade> mynick: I mean, I don't care if it's a userfriendly popup.  I just want a device I can mount :P
[11:41] <andou> mynick: But, nano is fine.
[11:41] <bouter> unop   so they are telling me to use ndiswrapper      no succes there   I already tried that
[11:42] <mynick> andou, vi is weird.  you haveto type : character then it will tell you what character to type to get out of it
[11:42] <mynick> something like q
[11:42] <unop> `ph8,  its hard to tell from this here what exactly might be wrong -- make note of this --logout, press CTRL+ALT+F1 .. login at the console and issue this command - sudo killall gdm; startx
[11:42] <mynick> i wouldn't use vi its nasty, use something simple like nano
[11:42] <norty> mynick, because the partition size and name are the same but the filetype went from NTFS to linux-swap
[11:42] <norty> thats how
[11:42] <mynick> nano has all its commands on the bottom so it takes 2 seconds to learn
[11:42] <`ph8> i'll give it a go, do you think it'll produce better errors?
[11:42] <Yodude> can someone please help me with my graphics card driver?
[11:42] <andou> mynick: Yeah. nano is easy to see. Thanks for the tip. So, I type : before the commands for vi?
[11:42] <`ph8> switching back to henri_ now then :p
[11:42] <mynick> norty, lol, yes but HOW do you know.  you can't mount it, how would you know?
[11:43] <unop> bouter,  errm, if your card can scan for networks why even bother with ndiswrapper .. you are past that stage .. just attempt to connect to your AP
[11:43] <norty> where else would the data be?
[11:43] <mynick> norty, and WHY would your ntfs not be one of the first two?
[11:43] <norty> i had 2 ntfs, 1 for just xp, 1 for the rest before i installed linux
[11:43] <mynick> afterall windows isn't too happy on anything but c, although people tell me otherwise
[11:43] <assasuka> i tried to block the version via synaptic but seems that it doesnt work
[11:43] <bouter> unop  tried that too    just doesn' t work
[11:43] <adamonline45> !sftp
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <mynick> norty, your ntfs wouldn't be in the swap area, you have two partitions up front as per your post
[11:43] <mynick> dd you try to mount those?
[11:43] <mynick> if so what did you get?
[11:44] <unop> bouter,  can you !pastebin the output of the iwlist scan command
[11:44] <unop> !paste
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:44] <mynick> i don't see how you conclude that your data is in the swap
[11:44] <norty> http://www.pastebin.ca/350246
[11:44] <ClayDragon> what's the problem Yodude?
[11:44] <norty> i only see 1 ntfs
[11:44] <bouter> pastebin?
[11:44] <Yodude> i download the nvidia glx driver
[11:44] <mynick> norty, did you try to mount it?
[11:44] <bouter> !pastebin wlan0     Scan completed :
[11:44] <bouter>           Cell 01 - Address: 00:18:39:C0:47:A4
[11:44] <bouter>                     ESSID:"BouterHilke"
[11:44] <bouter>                     Mode:Master
[11:44] <bouter>                     Frequency:2.452 GHz
[11:44] <bouter>                     Encryption key:on
[11:44] <bouter>                     Extra:tsf=0000000e6a23fcbf
[11:44] <bouter>           Cell 02 - Address: 00:D0:D6:07:97:22
[11:44] <bouter>                     ESSID:"LAN1-AP016638"
[11:44] <bouter>                     Mode:Master
[11:44] <henri_> ok, started x unop - got a message saying "hal does not support power management" and another one saying "hal or dbus are not working!"
[11:44] <Yodude> but when i enter the command to enable it it gives me an error
[11:44] <bouter>                     Frequency:2.462 GHz
[11:44] <norty> yea i cant mount something in ft linux-swap
[11:45] <bouter>                     Encryption key:on
[11:45] <bouter>                     Extra:tsf=0000010424694164
[11:45] <bouter> *damn*
[11:45] <mackinac> Oo
[11:45] <unop> bouter,  i didnt say paste in here :-s
[11:45] <ClayDragon> Yodude: the driver from the nvidia homepagE?
[11:45] <henri_> but the session started
[11:45] <bouter> then where?
[11:45] <Yodude> no from the repository
[11:45] <unop> bouter,  use a !pastebin
[11:45] <norty> mynick : http://www.pastebin.ca/350246
[11:45] <Yodude> nvidia-glx
[11:45] <unop> !pastebin | bouter
[11:45] <ubotu> bouter: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:45] <Yodude> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[11:45] <Yodude> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[11:45] <daftman> hi can someone help me enable port 3000 for my rails app
[11:45] <norty> sda1 is the ntfs with windows xp install
[11:45] <Yodude> this is what they said
[11:45] <mynick> norty, did you try to mount it
[11:45] <mynick> norty, okay you know what?
[11:45] <norty> mount what
[11:45] <daftman> i can't get rails from out side
[11:45] <daftman> i can get rails from localhost
[11:45] <norty> i mounted sda1
[11:46] <daftman> but not from outside
[11:46] <mynick> i haveto bow out of this, your not willing to listen or answer questions
[11:46] <Yodude> do you think a reinstall will do?
[11:46] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[11:46] <bouter> unop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5189/
[11:46] <ClayDragon> Yodude:  hm i have an ati but its a similar problem
[11:46] <norty> dude, i mounted it but i cant get access to it
[11:46] <mynick> its REALLY a lot of work to help you and i do this for fun
[11:46] <mynick> norty, maybe someone else can help out
[11:46] <ClayDragon> Yodude: i don't think a reinstall is necessary
[11:46] <mynick> unop, feel free
[11:46] <norty> just tell me how to get access to a folder on my desktop
[11:46] <unop> mynick,  ??
[11:46] <norty> i tried those commands they didnt work
[11:46] <mynick> norty, i did, but i'm done
[11:46] <ClayDragon> Yodude: have you edited your xorg.conf?
[11:46] <norty> those commands didnt work
[11:47] <mynick> unop, you seem pretty good maybe you can help him out.
[11:47] <unop> bouter,  can i assume yours is the first network?
[11:47] <bouter> yes
[11:47] <Yodude> no i haven't edited it
[11:47] <mynick> norty, thats fine but you didn't answer any questions, i refuse to help you in any way any longer
[11:47] <LinTux> is their anywhere I can find out info on the next version of UBUNTU, features etc
[11:47] <norty> what questions?
[11:47] <mynick> lol EXACTLY
[11:47] <norty> im back and forth between 2 computers and 2 apartments, i didnt see any questions
[11:47] <Yodude> maybe it's about those linux-restricted-modules
[11:48] <Yodude> i betg my connection failed while downloading
[11:48] <bouter> unop yes
[11:48] <Yodude> i'll reinstall wait
[11:48] <mynick> norty, lol hey like i told you, i do this for free, i have no obligation to you, sorry.  i tried hard.
[11:48] <shafire> can it be that ubuntu-server feisty installation is that slow without internet connection? :(
[11:48] <unop> bouter,  run this command - sudo iwconfig eth0 essid BouterHilke
[11:48] <norty> ..
[11:48] <ClayDragon> Yodude: take a look at the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:48] <unop> bouter,  tell me if it returns anything
[11:48] <ClayDragon> oops
[11:48] <bouter> unop   eth0  is my wired connection
[11:49] <unop> bouter,  my bad, use your wireless interface instead then
[11:50] <shafire> okay ubuntu isn't good
[11:50] <shafire> bye ubuntu
[11:50] <bouter> unop that does nothing    just gives me a new line
[11:50] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me? My computer hangs everytime i click on the red-button, which is supposed to open a menu of options like log-out, restart, shutdown, switch-user, etc. Now whenever i press that red-button in my gnome-panel the computer hangs everything becomes frozen, and then nothing appears (not even the options window from where i can log-out, shutdown), and i have to press "escape" on my keyboard to un-freeze the computer and still the
[11:50] <kenthomson> options-window doesn't appear, but atleast the computer starts responding again. Can someone pleaes help me
[11:50] <unop> bouter,  ok -- what does ifconfig -a have to say about the interface now?
[11:51] <unop> bouter,  !pastebin that too
[11:51] <mynick> kenthomson, when you open up your home dir, you can try moving all the .gnome folders.  you can rename them to something like .gnome.back.1, then restart
[11:51] <mynick> i meant ctrl/alt/backspace
[11:51] <mynick> lets see if its a settings issue in gnome
[11:52] <kenthomson> so i rename all the .gnome folders in my home-dir to .gnome.*.backup right?
[11:52] <unop> norty,  which directory are you trying to get into?
[11:52] <seravitae_> um, apt-get install wine can't find the wine package, and synaptic doesnt show it either. i've got universe and multiverse in my sources list and i apt-get updated.. any clues?
[11:52] <bouter> unop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5192/
[11:52] <bouter> iwconfig   and  ifconfig -a
[11:52] <kenthomson> mykilx, so i rename all the .gnome folders in my /home to .gnome.*.backup?
[11:52] <yeniklasor> How can I go back when I press ctrl+alt+F2
[11:53] <kenthomson> mynick, so i rename all the .gnome folders in my /home to .gnome.*.backup?
[11:53] <seravitae_> yeniklasor: F7 is the x display
[11:53] <kenthomson> mynick, this is all i have got; ken@ken-ubuntu:~$ ls -a | grep .gnome
[11:53] <kenthomson> .gnome
[11:53] <kenthomson> .gnome2
[11:53] <kenthomson> .gnome2_private
[11:53] <kenthomson> .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2
[11:53] <mynick> kenthomson, yup, and if its not that you can delete the new ones that are created and move the old ones back in if you like
[11:53] <norty> unop: im trying to get into a folder on my desktop
[11:53] <mynick> when you rename those when you log in it will create brand spankin new one
[11:53] <mynick> s
[11:53] <norty> it says i dont have permission to view the contents of that folder
[11:53] <bouter> unop    you see the  wmaster0 thingy   it says it' s wireless   but it doesn' t support scanning     so I'm guessing it' s some kind of "ghost"thingy
[11:54] <yeniklasor> ctrl+alt+F7 worked thanks
[11:54] <kenthomson> mynick, and can you think of any of my configurations that will be changed when the sparkling new ones are created? :) (i mean the important configuration ones like wallpaper, menus, etc?)
[11:54] <GhoSt_DoG> mynick: can u help me ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5188/
[11:54] <unop> bouter, yea, looks like you need this next -- sudo dhclient wlan0
[11:54] <mynick> kenthomson, none, just goes back to default
[11:54] <yeniklasor> Is there any program like windows' task manager for kill programs
[11:54] <unop> norty,  what does this return -- ls -ld ~/Desktop/folder
[11:55] <bouter> unop  I install wifi-radar  and start it from the command    it keeps saying  wmaster0 doesnt support scanning     no need for him to use wmaster0  wlan0 is the interface!!!  :)
[11:55] <unop> yeniklasor,  gnome-system-monitor
[11:55] <mynick> GhoSt_DoG, well this chan is for just plain ubuntu installs, your compiling your own installs ....
[11:55] <kenthomson> mynick, should i try renaming each and re-starting instead of mass-renaming in hope of saving atleast some of my configurations?
[11:55] <mynick> GhoSt_DoG, make sure you have build-essential installed tho first
[11:55] <yeniklasor> can I start  gnome-system-monitor with keyboard shortcut
[11:55] <mynick> kenthomson, sure if you want
[11:55] <unop> yeniklasor,  sure
[11:55] <andou> how do you check syslog for errors?
[11:55] <yeniklasor> how?
[11:55] <mynick> kenthomson, i don't see how much yhou could of done that you want to keep
[11:56] <bouter> unop   it' s not working   let me "pastebin" it
[11:56] <kenthomson> mynick, ?
[11:56] <andou> !error check
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error check - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <mynick> yeniklasor, right click on the panel, add system monitors
[11:56] <unop> !xbindkeys | yeniklasor
[11:56] <ubotu> yeniklasor: xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[11:56] <ClayDragon> Yodude: does it work now out of the box?
[11:56] <kenthomson> mynick, how do i rename a whole folder at the CLI?
[11:56] <mynick> then you can double click it to show processes/apps
[11:56] <andou> !check erros
[11:56] <ubotu> check: unit test framework for C. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.3-2 (edgy), package size 64 kB, installed size 304 kB
[11:56] <ClayDragon> Yodude: does it work now?
[11:56] <mynick> yeniklasor, you can also kill processes from command line  with killall -9 processname
[11:56] <GhoSt_DoG> mynick: i have build-essential
[11:56] <bouter> unop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5194/
[11:57] <norty> unop, it returns: dr-x ------ 1 root root 8192 2007-01-29 19:05 /home/norty/Desktop/folder
[11:57] <yeniklasor> OK thank you
[11:57] <Yodude> well i reinstalled
[11:57] <mynick> kenthomson, cp -R foldername newfolder name <-- that copies it
[11:57] <Yodude> than redid the command
[11:57] <andou> How can I check a file for errors?
[11:57] <mynick> then you del the old dir with rm -rf foldername
[11:57] <unop> bouter,  did you run -- sudo dhclient wlan0  .. if so, i'd like to see that output
[11:57] <Yodude> it told me an error could not proceed automatically because the X config file has been altered
[11:58] <ClayDragon> Yodude: what commands did you type?
[11:58] <bouter> unop   yes     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5194/
[11:58] <Yodude> i didn't alter it so i entered a command to tell it i did not alter it
[11:58] <`ph8> lol unop - i can now login perfectly, apart from a popup box appears saying "your session only lasted less than 10 seconds, ... ...  try logging in with the failsafe to see if you can fix this problem" - and if i press ok in that box it'll reset gdm - if i just leave it in a remote corner of the screen though my desktop works as expected
[11:58] <mynick> you can also mv -R foldername newfoldername but if power fails you can hose stuff (not in this example but i fyou were mv'ing some system files it could be important)
[11:58] <ClayDragon> Yodude: did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:58] <Yodude> now i did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:58] <unop> norty,  sudo chown -R $USER.$USER ~/Desktop/folder; sudo chmod -R 774 ~/Desktop/folder
[11:58] <norty> i did that
[11:58] <Yodude> and i didn't get an error this time i just got that X config file has been updated and that i need to restart X
[11:58] <Yodude> so here i am
[11:59] <Yodude> gonna restart
[11:59] <Yodude> hope it works
[11:59] <unop> norty,  no you didnt -- its clear from the output of ls -ld .. run it again
[11:59] <norty> i will try again, if my user name is norty does $USER get replace norty then ?
[11:59] <unop> norty,  yes
[11:59] <norty> ok i try that
[11:59] <norty> be right back
[11:59] <unop> bouter,  just one sec
[12:00] <unop> `ph8,  hmm, well, thats an odd workaround -- do you get the same xsession errors there too?
[12:02] <unop> bouter,  replace<key> with that of your AP .. sudo sh -c "iwconfig eth0 key <key>; dhclient wlan0"
[12:03] <mabu33> works the decryption with  "cryptsetup & initramfs-tools" on kernel 2.6.18 k7?
[12:03] <epsilon_> there are tons of instructions out there for enabling swap.. i identified the swap device (hda6).. what should I be doing next? I'm on Edgy
[12:03] <mabu33> works the encryption with  "cryptsetup & initramfs-tools" on kernel 2.6.18 k7?
[12:03] <bouter> unop    why the eth0 thing?
[12:04] <mynick> epsilon_, if you booted into edgy you have a working swap already
[12:04] <mynick> you won't be able to boot without a swap
[12:04] <ddnngg> any1 updated Gnome on 6.06 ??
[12:04] <mynick> epsilon_, why are you mucking with such a thing post install?
[12:04] <mynick> ddnngg, nothing ever gets updated on old releases they just get security patches
[12:05] <ddnngg> then i cant update Gnome to newer version ??
[12:05] <unop> bouter,  sorry, s/eth0/wlan0/
[12:05] <mynick> ddnngg, yeah you can but you haveto either install it from source or compile and package it for your self
[12:05] <mynick> ddnngg, releases are every 6 months no one bothers with such a thing tho
[12:05] <epsilon_> actually someone said that swap could be the issue behind various lags in programs -- i'm actually totally clueless now.. this post for instance demonstrates otherwise: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1786779&postcount=8
[12:05] <norty> OMG i saw the files that im trying to get back when i executed those commands!!!!!
[12:05] <mynick> ddnngg, also 6.06 is a long term support thingie, the only way to KEEP it stable is to not actually change stuff
[12:06] <norty> i dunno if i can get to them since its still running but
[12:06] <norty> !
[12:06] <norty> !
[12:06] <norty> :)_D
[12:06] <mynick> unop, congrats
[12:06] <kenthomson> mynick, when i press ctrl-alt-backspace the WHOLE computer restarts including the OS, not just X, and i can't restart my computer through the red-button on the top-panel as it freezes up my computer, can you tell me some way through CLI that i can restart X
[12:06] <mynick> you managed to do exactly what i didn't
[12:06] <mynick> heh
[12:06] <mynick> kenthomson, uh what?
[12:07] <epsilon_> i'm already on edgy, mynick.. so swap shouldn't be an issue at all?
[12:07] <bouter> unop    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5195/
[12:07] <borrekk> c
[12:07] <mynick> kenthomson, did you rename ALL the files as i told you? once you deleted the old ones, you rebooted and you still have the same problem?
[12:07] <norty> unop, i did those commands but i still cant access those files in the folder!
[12:07] <norty> ?
[12:07] <mynick> epsilon_, if you didn't have a swap file you wouldn't of been able to boot. correct.
[12:07] <mynick> epsilon_, why are you worried about it tho?
[12:07] <kenthomson> mynick, you want me to reboot or re-start X?
[12:07] <mynick> restartx is fine but reboot results in the same thing
[12:07] <kenthomson> mynick, so should i reboot or restartx?
[12:08] <mynick> you can do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart instead
[12:08] <kenthomson> quit
[12:08] <kenthomson> ok
[12:08] <epsilon_> it's not worrying me at all -- but it's that edgy looks more buggy (and laggy, might I add) to me that its predecessor
[12:08] <epsilon_> *than
[12:08] <mynick> if gdm doesn't restart you might need to do from terminal sessions sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ... then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ... sometimes it doesn't do a proper restart
[12:08] <unop> norty, what does this return now ?  ls -ld ~/Desktop/folder
[12:09] <tororm> can someone help with with x and a toshiba tecra a3x?
[12:09] <mynick> tororm, just ask
[12:09] <norty> same thing
[12:09] <norty> dr-x ---- 8192...
[12:09] <norty> dr-x ---- root root 8192..
[12:09] <tororm> I'm having trouble getting x to run on my toshiba tecra a3x
[12:10] <tororm> when it starts all I get is a white screen
[12:10] <unop> bouter, hmm, does your router have the DHCP service turned on?
[12:10] <mynick> tororm, what video card does that have?
[12:10] <tororm> it looks kind of like it's starting to load, but is totally white
[12:10] <stork> !flux
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <tororm> Intel g915 chipset I think
[12:10] <stork> !fluxbox
[12:10] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:10] <bouter> yes   my laptop can connect with no problems
[12:10] <mynick> tororm, i can't remember exactly but that sounds fine
[12:10] <bouter> unop yes   my laptop can connect with no problems
[12:10] <unop> norty,  that's odd -- are you sure you ran the exact commands i gave you?
[12:11] <unop> bouter,  hmm, and that runs wireles too?
[12:11] <norty> yes
[12:11] <ClayDragon> Yodude: hey, how's it going now?
[12:11] <Yodude> not well at all
[12:11] <Yodude> it screwed up my system
[12:11] <CrakeHunter> hello, i would like to watch DVDs with DolbyDigital. In Totem i activated "AC3 passthrough" but it doesnt change. if i restart player its back at "stereo". what should i do?
[12:11] <mynick> tororm, you might want to do a ctrl/alt/f1 login from that session and do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa as the video driver to test if that works
[12:11] <Yodude> the X file is unbootable
[12:11] <norty> sudo chown -R norty.norty ~/Desktop/folder
[12:11] <Yodude> i'm on LiveCD
[12:11] <ClayDragon> Yodude: tell me what exactly did you type?
[12:11] <bouter> unop    yes it does
[12:11] <norty> and
[12:11] <mynick> tororm, if the vesa driver doesn't work you have problems, big problems
[12:11] <norty> sudo chmod -R 774 ~/Desktop/folder
[12:11] <norty> are you sure its 774, coz mynick said 777
[12:11] <ClayDragon> Yodude: screwed up your xorg.conf?
[12:12] <kenthomson> mynick, no use, still i can't use the red-button in my gnome-panel the access the sub-menu for restarting/shut-down/log-out of my system, the whole computer including the graphs of system monitor in my gnome-panel and all windows,etc freeze, don't respond, when i press that red-button and than i have to press escape to un-freeze my system, though there is still no way i can graphically restart/shutdown/log-out of my system due to this. Can you please
[12:12] <kenthomson> HELP?
[12:12] <Yodude> i don't remember the command line told me something about my x file beeing altered and to type a command if it was not
[12:12] <tororm> the weird thing is backtrack1 worked
[12:12] <Yodude> so i typed it
[12:12] <tororm> but bt2 does not
[12:12] <Yodude> and after all i screwed up X config
[12:12] <kenthomson> mynick, *for accessing
[12:12] <tororm> neither does knoppix
[12:12] <ClayDragon> Yodude: did you make a backup?
[12:12] <unop> norty,  774 should do -- but i'm concerned about the chown command -- did it run successfully?  try it again without the -R
[12:12] <mynick> kenthomson, we have then established its not a config thing with gnome
[12:12] <Yodude> yes they made it but i didn't remember the command that reverts to the old X
[12:12] <kenthomson> mynick, right
[12:12] <Yodude> i want to reinstall my system
[12:13] <mynick> kenthomson, from this point on we have two options: a) debug b) reinstall.  reinstall is far easier and faster.
[12:13] <Yodude> i want to start clean
[12:13] <norty> it did run successfully, it went through all the files in the folder and changed permission i believe
[12:13] <norty> it took a while
[12:13] <Yodude> how can i uninstall ubuntu?
[12:13] <norty> ill run it without -R though
[12:13] <unop> norty,  and you shoulnt be seeing output (but you are) .. can you show me an extract of the outut you see
[12:13] <Yodude> by erasing the partitions?
[12:13] <mynick> kenthomson, also, i have never seen that problem and don't know how to debug it over irc .... :/ i'm sorry
[12:13] <norty> yep hold on
[12:13] <CrakeHunter> does anyone know how to activate dolbydigital with totem palyer?
[12:13] <unop> bouter,  ok, let me give you a new /etc/network/interfaces .. can you pastebin the contents of that file ?
[12:13] <ClayDragon> Yodude: this shouldn't be necessary
[12:14] <Yodude> man i can't get even to the login screen
[12:14] <mynick> Yodude, what do you mean uninstall?
[12:14] <Yodude> i only get a command line
[12:14] <ClayDragon> Yodude: mount the partition with your installed system and look at the directory /etc/X11
[12:14] <mynick> if you want windows jsut reinstall over top of it
[12:14] <kenthomson> mynick, i want to keep all my setting etc, so if i just re-install the system and keep my /home as it is, than my configuration will be retained, but maybe its those configuration of other programes that are causing this behavious, than there will be no use of re-installing if i retain the /home folder which i want to as it contains a hellofalotof custom configs
[12:14] <mynick> if you want ubuntu reinstall ubuntu over top of it self, just make sure to format the partitions again
[12:14] <Yodude> how? i don't see my ext3 partitions
[12:14] <bouter> unop   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5197/       no wlan0 there
[12:14] <unop> bouter,  actually, do you know if the AP is using WEP or WPA encryption?
[12:15] <bouter> WEP
[12:15] <norty> hold on its running
[12:15] <bouter> unop WEP
[12:15] <norty> i see lots of output when i run sudo chmod
[12:15] <unop> bouter,  ok, 2 secs
[12:15] <mynick> kenthomson, well you can always reinstall and just make sure the first superuser created is a different name than the one your settings are in
[12:15] <kenthomson> And people told me ubuntu was more stable! DAMN!
[12:15] <ClayDragon> Yodude: you can mount the partition with the "mount" command
[12:15] <mynick> KennethP, you will get a clean system, and you can copy paste your .whatever folders/files over to your new account to get your settings back
[12:15] <Balachmar> How can I change the default volume on ubuntu edgy?
[12:15] <norty> like blah blah /home/norty/Desktop/folder/newfolder/newerfolder.. changing permissions
[12:15] <mynick> nice and easy, right?
[12:15] <norty> thats what i see when i use chmod
[12:15] <Balachmar> So that on startup the volume is maxed out
[12:16] <Yodude> tell me the command i'll enter it
[12:16] <unop> norty, use a pastebin and show me a few lines
[12:16] <unop> !pastebin | norty
[12:16] <ubotu> norty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:16] <Yodude> sudo mount-a?
[12:16] <kenthomson> mynick, i will simple do "sudo rm -rf /" and install VISTA
[12:16] <mynick> kenthomson, oooooohkay
[12:16] <ClayDragon> Yodude: "sudo mount /mnt/ /dev/hda1" if hda1 is your partition
[12:16] <mynick> aaaand how does your /home then have anything to do with vista?
[12:16] <Yodude> i moutnw which one? my linux root?
[12:17] <ClayDragon> Yodude: yes
[12:17] <kenthomson> mynick, nothing atleast it doesn;t suffer from such silly-baby-ish bugs like the shut-down menu freezing the system
[12:17] <mynick> lol
[12:17] <mynick> no
[12:17] <norty> www.pastebin.ca/350336
[12:17] <mynick> it suffers from users that don't know how to operate the os
[12:17] <norty> http://www.pastebin.ca/350336
[12:17] <mynick> kenthomson, problem with open source is really never open source
[12:17] <norty> thats what i get after i run chmod
[12:17] <Yodude>  can't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:17] <mynick> its 99% users, i'm terribly sorry that you don't like it but if windows suits you cool
[12:17] <mynick> :)
[12:18] <kenthomson> i new this was too amateur and not worth the time and effort but i didn;t listen and went into this hellish ride, i have had my fill and am going back
[12:18] <mynick> if you ever come back i would be happy to help again
[12:18] <ClayDragon> Yodude: that shouldn't appear if you use sudo
[12:18] <mynick> kenthomson, lol
[12:18] <Yodude> it appeared
[12:18] <kenthomson> :(
[12:18] <mynick> ken, bro, the only thing amateur here is you unfortunately, this os runs most of the internet
[12:18] <yommb> like 99%
[12:18] <ClayDragon> Yodude: hmmm
[12:19] <busfahrer`> Excuse me, how do I mount a harddisk (with NTFS partitions) so that not only root but also users can access it?
[12:19] <norty> mynick do you know whats wrong? i run chmod and chown and i cant get permission into the folder
[12:19] <mynick> gotta love users that screw up their own os and blame it on the os
[12:19] <yommb> that might b a tad exaggerated :)
[12:19] <Yodude> i think a reinstall is the best solution
[12:19] <yommb> mynick : the frustration is great sometimes  :)
[12:19] <Yodude> but i'm telling you i'm a bit dissapointed
[12:19] <ClayDragon> Yodude: did you add a mount point directory like /mnt
[12:19] <Yodude> i thought i would never get such errors i linux
[12:19] <mynick> norty, no idea, i would get a second hd, and put this one in a usb cradle and try that
[12:19] <unop> bouter,  ok try using this- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5198/ -- gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces .. paste this in, save and then run this command -- sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:20] <Yodude> wait i'll do it the way i mount windows partitions
[12:20] <mynick> Yodude, well generally this is auser issue actually
[12:20] <norty> how do you put it in a usb cradle
[12:20] <ClayDragon> Yodude: getting the graphics right is tricky with every distro
[12:20] <mynick> Yodude, expert users actually never see errors like yours ... how can you blame the os for your decisions?
[12:20] <unop> norty,  heh, notice that the filesystem is read-only there :-s .. you should pay attention to what commands return
[12:20] <Yodude> no i mean i thought downloading from the reopistory shouldn't do this
[12:21] <Yodude> after i downloaded and ran the command it gave me it gave an error
[12:21] <yommb> If you go Linux , there is a learning curve involved , one must accept that , or decide that it isn't worth one's time !
[12:21] <Yodude> it shouldn't be that way
[12:21] <norty> ok whats that mean
[12:21] <unop> norty,  does ~/Desktop/folder represent a mount point? or is it a link to one?
[12:21] <mynick> Yodude, i missed ethe original question ... what happened again?
[12:21] <norty> i dunno, i just created that folder and executed the mount to that folder
[12:21] <unop> norty,  it means the filesystem that ~/Desktop/folder resides on was mounted as a read-only filesystem
[12:22] <unop> norty,  did you use mount from the command line ?
[12:22] <norty> yea
[12:22] <norty> i did
[12:22] <mynick> well with any change there is a learning curve
[12:22] <unop> norty, first off, is this drive a NTFS drive?
[12:22] <mynick> you know windows users are a funny bunch, i really hate them
[12:22] <norty> yea
[12:22] <norty> it is
[12:22] <bouter> unop    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5199/
[12:22] <yommb> lol
[12:22] <Yodude> mynick: after downloading nvidia-glx from the repository it instaslled and corrupted X
[12:23] <norty> the one im trying to get access to is NTFS yes
[12:23] <Yodude> hey i mounted my linux root partition
[12:23] <unop> norty,  heh -- no wonder .. you need to install NTFS write support
[12:23] <mynick> they spend 15 years learning how to click on a crapy and poorly thought out os, and expect to pickup a world class os like linux in 15 minutes
[12:23] <unop> !ntfs-3g | norty
[12:23] <ubotu> norty: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:23] <Yodude> so how do i repair this
[12:23] <yommb> Yodude : did you run nvidia-xconfig ?
[12:23] <mynick> sometimes i just feel like they should stay on windows, thats the reason windows has problems with viruses and spyware
[12:23] <ClayDragon> mynick lol
[12:23] <mynick> its their damne dusers
[12:23] <Yodude> yomnb: it gave me an error
[12:23] <norty> so i install that and then i can access those folders?
[12:23] <norty> files*
[12:23] <bouter> unop    thank you for your help  but I have to go now     it will be for another time
[12:23] <yommb> then it seems your driver isnt installed correctly
[12:23] <mynick> Yodude, oh its not a corruption ... either a config error or something wrong with driver
[12:24] <mynick> Yodude, x doesn't boot right, it brings up a blue or red screen right?
[12:24] <Yodude> yes it's a confiog error
[12:24] <busfahrer`> Excuse me, when I try to mount an ntfs partition from another harddrive, but I get permission denied because *after* mounting the containging directory has chmod 700. the command I used is sudo mount -r -o users /dev/sdb1 /mnt/foo. any ideas?
[12:24] <Dils> Do I need to take LPI 101, 102  to b e able to write Ubuntu Exam??
[12:24] <Yodude> when i boot i get the message that X couldn't start
[12:24] <unop> bouter,  heres the correction - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5200/
[12:24] <yommb> mynick , if nvidia-xcinfig gives him an error i think its a driver issue
[12:24] <mynick> i would say so
[12:24] <mynick> Yodude, uninstall it and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver
[12:25] <mynick> that should get you a working desktop
[12:25] <Dils> Do I need to take LPI 101, 102 to be able to write Ubuntu Exam??
[12:25] <norty> it says that driver only works with 32 bit distros, i have an amd 64, will it still work?
[12:25] <mynick> then you can try it again and maybe research your hardware specs and your version ofubuntu a bit
[12:25] <yommb> Yodude : edit your xorg.conf file & change the driver to "nv" or "vesa"  ! see what that does
[12:25] <mynick> chances are someone has had the same issue
[12:25] <`ph8> unop: yeh similar errors
[12:25] <mynick> oh do what yommb said first
[12:25] <Yodude> man wait
[12:25] <Yodude> i'm on liveCD now remember
[12:25] <yommb> mynick : we're on the samez level :)
[12:25] <mynick> Yodude, make SURE to backup your xorg.conf file first
[12:25] <Yodude> i can't uninstall i'm not using the installed version!
[12:25] <mynick> what?
[12:25] <unop> norty,  errm, i'm not sure if a 64 bit version exists -- check the ntfs-3g homepage
[12:26] <mynick> Yodude, oh boot into the installed version
[12:26] <unop> `ph8,  did you do anything recently to have caused this?
[12:26] <ClayDragon> Yodude: change the xorg.conf on your root partition and then reboot
[12:26] <mynick> just log in using the terminal session that comes up after you click through the xserver error messages
[12:26] <`ph8> feisty upgrade :p
[12:26] <Yodude> what changes do i add>?
[12:26] <yommb> lol ; Yodude , you come here complaining about how bad the OS is , but obviously you don't know jack what you are doing ...
[12:26] <Yodude> no actually i'm pretty good in tech i'm just new to linux
[12:27] <mynick> lol
[12:27] <mynick> being good in tech means nothing bro
[12:27] <unop> `ph8, ahh .. explains it -- it's still pre-release software eh, so you expect this -- but do ask in #ubuntu+1 .. thats where feisty support goes :)
[12:27] <Yodude> tell me: if i didn't know good how could i have installed it in the first place?
[12:27] <Balachmar> yes but really not knowing that you are in a bootable version....
[12:27] <mynick> being good in tech usually translates to i know how to install windows
[12:27] <bouter> unop   it' s working either     but I'm out of time now   thank you very much   maybe some other time
[12:27] <mynick> which btw counts for nothing
[12:27] <Balachmar> Even I wasn't THAT bad at first :)
[12:27] <mynick> once you learn linux you will look back and shake your head
[12:27] <yommb> ok let stop bashing now :)
[12:27] <mynick> okay
[12:27] <mynick> :)
[12:27] <Balachmar> But trust me it is worth your time
[12:27] <Yodude> just tell me what do i have to add to the xconfifg
[12:27] <ClayDragon> Yodude: look for a section in the xorg.conf called "Device"
[12:28] <norty> unop, all i want to do is be able to copy the files from ~/Desktop/folder to a folder in linux so that I can download it to my ipod so that i dont lose my data when i try to reinstall everything, can i do that without installing this driver?
[12:28] <Balachmar> first boot into the installed version
[12:28] <Yodude> k wait
[12:28] <mynick> he did, change the 'nv' to 'nvidia' in your xorg.conf file
[12:28] <Balachmar> Good luck Yodude!
[12:28] <mynick> you can find it in /etc/X11/ dir
[12:28] <Yodude> hey wait
[12:28] <ClayDragon> Yodude: there's a line in the section beginning with "Driver"
[12:28] <mynick> MAKE SURE YOU BACK IT UP first
[12:28] <Yodude> i have two backups of the X file
[12:28] <Yodude> can i just replace them with the corrupt one?
[12:28] <ClayDragon> Yodude: ok then try to restore a backup first
[12:28] <mynick> cool, i just don't want you to blame me for everything like you are blaming the os
[12:29] <rogierwilco> greetings
[12:29] <mynick> hellow
[12:29] <rogierwilco> :)
[12:29] <yommb> yodude : there are detailed ; very clearly laid out instructions on the NVIDIA site on how to install the driver , also , mynick suggestion about the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is a good idea to fix X related problems
[12:29] <mynick> yeah, thats the thing about windows users
[12:29] <unop> norty,  sure, reading from the partition is definitely possible -- just no write operations -- you can do something like -- sudo sh -c "cd ~/Desktop; mkdir folder2; cp -R folder folder2"
[12:29] <mynick> they haven't learned how to research yet :)
[12:30] <yommb> installing the nvidia driver manually takes about 5 minutes
[12:30] <mynick> it turns out to actually be a skill
[12:30] <mynick> heh
[12:30] <norty> what do you mean by write?
[12:30] <Yodude> wait
[12:30] <norty> right now all im trying to do is get these files off my computer, back them up, and reformat my whole hd
[12:30] <mynick> Yodude, k. i'm waiting
[12:30] <Yodude> is the x config file names xserver-xorg.config ?
[12:30] <mynick> wait, what am i waiting for?
[12:30] <mynick> no
[12:30] <Yodude> is this it?
[12:30] <ClayDragon> Yodude: that looks like a backup
[12:30] <mynick> xorg.config
[12:31] <yommb> Yodude : if you like i'll walk you through the process of installing the nvidia driver ..
[12:31] <ClayDragon> xorg.conf @mynick :-P
[12:31] <unop> norty,  by write operations i mean .. create new files, edit files, change permissions, etc -- if you run that command -- you should have a copy of that folder _on your desktop_
[12:31] <Yodude> i didn't find that i only found "xserver-xorg.config
[12:31] <yommb> yodude : its called xorg.conf  located at : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <norty> am i going tobe able to see the files? right now i cant
[12:31] <kenthomson> mynick, what if i told you i am back?
[12:31] <Yodude> yes
[12:32] <kenthomson> mynick, xcompmgr was the culprit!
[12:32] <Yodude> i wonder why search didn't find it
[12:32] <unop> norty,  the copy being on a different filesystem -- so it doesnt have any restrictions the current one has
[12:32] <Yodude> i'll replace it
[12:32] <ClayDragon> i gotta go, good luck to you, Yodude
[12:32] <kenthomson> mynick, which has been put in the startup script to run the transparent background of the goddamned kiba-dock
[12:32] <norty> all i want to do is see the files, be able to select some, put them on my ipod
[12:32] <kenthomson> :)
[12:32] <norty> how can I do that if i cant see them?
[12:32] <unop> norty,  ok wait up
[12:32] <norty> ok
[12:32] <norty> :] 
[12:32] <mynick> kenthomson, well if your back i take back everything i said about you behind your back
[12:32] <mynick> *cough*
[12:32] <mynick> hahaha!
[12:32] <norty> sorry im just extremely frustrated and tired
[12:33] <mynick> j/k!
[12:33] <yommb> yodude : back it up , and then do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg !
[12:33] <Yodude> man it said i do not have permission to write to the folder
[12:33] <norty> and i dont want to lose 100 gigs of my data
[12:33] <kenthomson> mynick, :)
[12:33] <mynick> kenthomson, well very cool
[12:33] <unop> norty,  mkdir folder2; sudo sh -c "cd ~/Desktop; cp -R folder folder2"
[12:33] <yommb> yodude : u must be su ( use sudo )
[12:33] <Yodude> i think i'll do what you said yomnb
[12:33] <mynick> kenthomson, look, you are using a VERY VERY powerfull os
[12:33] <mynick> kenthomson, this environment is about freedome.  you have access to everything.
[12:33] <hoky> have i ask
[12:33] <norty> what will that do
[12:33] <hoky> >
[12:33] <mynick> you know  that line about freedom right?
[12:33] <mynick> with great freedom comes great responsibility.
[12:33] <unop> norty,  that should have everything the way you want it -- folder2 will contain the files
[12:33] <mynick> *cough*
[12:33] <mynick> i should trademark that
[12:33] <norty> ok
[12:33] <norty> ill try that, brb
[12:34] <kenthomson> mynick, ?
[12:34] <mynick> :) look we are going to be better at some things, they are going to be better at other things
[12:34] <rogierwilco> Yodude, everything in /etc is forbidden regular users
[12:34] <rogierwilco> (to write anyway)
[12:34] <mynick> overall my sales pitch to you is , freedom is important, more important than features.  two, we have way more features, way more power, way more potential than they
[12:34] <hoky> i want the last v of ubuntu 6.10 or 6.6
[12:34] <hoky> ?
[12:34] <mynick> you can have tons and tons of fun here if you like computers
[12:34] <mynick> you can make a nice gramma friendly environment or you can make a powersystem for your self
[12:34] <_rd_> hi, I've lost all the usb devices, how can they be restored without rebooting?
[12:34] <norty> unop do i type it exactly like that, with the ; and stuff in it?
[12:35] <Yodude> i ran the file in gedit using sudo
[12:35] <Yodude> i'm just gonna replace the text in it
[12:35] <unop> norty,  better you copy and paste it in the terminal
[12:35] <kenthomson> mynick, you see i have spent so many hours behind this things (learning so many things that i never wanted to learn, when all i wanted to do was install a plugin.etc), and doing so many configurations and learning so many commands, that now i feel like sticking with this piece of shit which some punk in space christened ubuntu
[12:35] <hoky> ??
[12:35] <mynick> but with freedom comes the potential to mess everything up :) so ya know ... frustration yes but lets just try to frame things a bit, perspective helps
[12:35] <unop> norty,  yes, exactly like that
[12:35] <norty> ok
[12:35] <kenthomson> mynick, ok i am still feeling a bit...alright i am cool now
[12:35] <Yodude> you know this is weir when i opened the file it was empty!
[12:35] <mynick> kenthomson, and thats okay, use windows
[12:35] <norty> should i create folder2 on the desktop?
[12:35] <hoky> which is the last ubuntu 6.10 or 6.06
[12:35] <Yodude> man it must have been so ****ed
[12:36] <hoky> hich is the last ubuntu 6.10 or 6.06?
[12:36] <pbureau> Morning to all
[12:36] <mynick> kenthomson, you the other thing most windows users really forget is you guys have over 15 years of training
[12:36] <rogierwilco> morning pbureau
[12:36] <effie_jayx> hoky, 6.10
[12:36] <hoky> which is the last ubuntu 6.10 or 6.06
[12:36] <pbureau> rogierwilco, 10-4
[12:36] <mynick> kenthomson, as you well know, that is A LOT of training, you can't expect to replace that in 15 minutes ... on something this powerfull
[12:36] <pbureau> lol
[12:36] <hoky> aha
[12:36] <mynick> afterall linux isn't made by fisher price
[12:36] <kenthomson> hoky, 6.10 > 6.06 in terms of numerical values and no software vendors names new versions backwards lest it may run into negative in the future; you know logic helps
[12:36] <rogierwilco> :P
[12:37] <Yodude> i'm gonna restart and see now
[12:37] <mynick> kenthomson, i don't mean to preach actually, you sound like you are interested so i'm trying to round things out thats all
[12:37] <mynick> any questions?
[12:37] <yommb> ok
[12:37] <kenthomson> mynick, NO, Sir!
[12:37] <kenthomson> :)
[12:37] <mynick> kenthomson, oh yeah se thats again your fault :)
[12:37] <mynick> lol
[12:37] <mynick> its actually extremely logical .. ubuntu is release every 6 months
[12:37] <tsalas> morning people
[12:37] <rogierwilco> morning, tsalas
[12:38] <tsalas> anyone feel like helping a first time confused user?
[12:38] <mynick> if you want to know which ubuntu you are running you are running 6th month 06 year release
[12:38] <assasukasse> mynick how can i stop the kernel update? im getting crazy...
[12:38] <mynick> its a lot easier to know what that release means than to go, okay in 2001 i was running ubuntu 1.23.3542.3-mybutt
[12:38] <rogierwilco> tsalas, depends on you question(s)
[12:38] <pbureau> !ask | tsalas
[12:38] <ubotu> tsalas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:38] <rogierwilco> ;)
[12:38] <mynick> assasukasse, i've never had to blacklist a package ... thats a good qeustion
[12:38] <tsalas> i can't get the max screen res for my monitor
[12:38] <assasukasse> i tried to lock it on synaptic, but doesnt let me
[12:39] <tsalas> and nvidia drivers do not seem to be working at all
[12:39] <norty> urop, i typed that exactly but now its waiting at the terminal with just this: >
[12:39] <kenthomson> mynick, ok coming back to trouble-shooting, you see thats what i have been doing since the past three months trouble shooting all the goddamn packages that i have installed and trying to get some apps to behave properly, instead of getting some work done, but as i am more interested in the process of it, than doing work (anyways who is?) it is ok. But afterall i have to get food on the dinner table, and ubuntu in my computer is seriously hampering eve
[12:39] <kenthomson> rything (it requires so much time to research and configure something that you want to do) instead of the GUI that windows provides :(
[12:39] <mynick> kenthomson, i have no illusions about your experience thus far, you may end up back on vista (god how can you possibly use that? i meaqn really) but do you have any other questions i can answer?
[12:40] <mynick> kenthomson, indeed.  i haven't seen your other issues, i can't judge if your complaints are valid.  i NEVER EVER spend time configuring ubuntu
[12:40] <mynick> for me its install, install packages, done
[12:40] <mynick> i don't really understand what is there to configure
[12:40] <kenthomson> mynick, right i have a question, is there a way i can run xcompmgr, without screwing up that shutdown button in the gnome-panel?
[12:40] <_rd_> morning dudes, something simple: all the usb devices have stopped responding in this box....how can they be restarted without rebooting?
[12:41] <kenthomson> _rd_, quiz master? :)
[12:41] <unop> norty,  hmm, the command is waiting to be complete .. indicates an error -- let's see
[12:41] <mynick> ah that, don't know bro, i don't use that.  is that TRULLY a show stopper?
[12:41] <_rd_> I was getting chroot going and lost all the usb devices!
[12:41] <mynick> how about you config that when you have time?
[12:41] <CrakeHunter> does anyone know how to get dolbydigital working with totem?
[12:41] <pbureau> kenthomson, suggestion (if possible), do Like I do, I work from home, and I need a pc taht can run all the "business needs" can run, and that means I have an XP box for work, but I also grabbed for 25$ a PIII/900MHZ/256RAM and I play around with ubuntu on that  machine.... surprisingly alot less "stressfull"
[12:42] <mynick> pbureau, i did the opposite.
[12:42] <norty> :x
[12:42] <mynick> i one day just switched everything
[12:42] <tsalas> argh im going crazy
[12:42] <mynick> it forced me to learn NOW, instead of taking forever
[12:42] <unop> norty,  mkdir folder2; sudo sh -c "cd /home/$USER/Desktop; cp -R folder folder2"
[12:42] <kenthomson> mynick, i too have switched everything
[12:42] <mynick> in the end i completely dropped windows
[12:42] <unop> norty,  copy and paste as-is
[12:42] <tsalas> WHY wont my max resolution show up in the options????
[12:42] <kenthomson> mynick, but i have often pangs of regrets
[12:42] <mynick> kenthomson, what sort of work do you need to do?
[12:43] <norty> leaving $USER in there?
[12:43] <mynick> kenthomson, well you didn't pay for with, what do you mean you have regrets?
[12:43] <pbureau> mynick,  I dont think you an I work the same jobs...lol I deal with tax clients, I need 1024 bit encryption VPN access ...
[12:43] <mynick> i don't see yo complaining about paying $400 for vista when it borks?
[12:43] <kenthomson> mynick, i have regrets for my stubborness to stick to ubuntu
[12:43] <mynick> pbureau, yep and if you need it sure :)
[12:43] <yodude> mynick: it didn't work
[12:43] <yodude> yomnb: can you tell me your method again?
[12:44] <unop> norty,  yea, leaving $USER in there -- it expands to your current username
[12:44] <yodude> the one about dpkg reconfig?
[12:44] <_rd_> kenthomson not ment to be a quiz! I've restarted dbus and  hal....still nothing.....any suggestions?
[12:44] <norty> ok
[12:44] <norty> brb
[12:44] <tsalas> if anyone is willing to help me setup my nvidia drivers and get the max res. please let me know
[12:44] <mynick> kenthomson, well i donno what to tell you.  i'm helping you for free.  you didn't pay for billions of dollars of software development 'that just works'
[12:44] <mynick> and let me tell you it does if you know what your doing a bit
[12:44] <pbureau> mynick, but... I play on my ubuntu box all the time (installed 5 different wifi cards in it, and learn how to make it work (each require a different way) heck I even wrote a howto for the 43xx wifi cards just recently (hoping to contribute back :)
[12:44] <mynick> kenthomson, why not go back to windows? its perfectly okay
[12:45] <mynick> pbureau, your a better person than i, i just look up the hardware requirements buy stuff that works, plug it in and go
[12:45] <pp|Paul> can anyone help me with a wireless card question?
[12:45] <norty> urop, same thing: >
[12:45] <mynick> kenthomson, you can even drop by and say hi to us nice people :)
[12:45] <mynick> pp|Paul, sure just ask
[12:45] <kenthomson> mynick, you see i am more in favour of screwing up my system-as that serves as a reason for me not working/ thats why i use ubuntu
[12:45] <kenthomson> mynick, :)
[12:45] <yodude> mynick: replacing it didn't work it said again that it is not set up correctly
[12:45] <norty> unop, same thing: >
[12:46] <mynick> lol, well if you keep on hosing it keep on asking i will try to help
[12:46] <pbureau> mynick, so your adapting the hardware to the software... that is the reverse than 99.9999999 of the people do, and I beleive if a program or os is properly configured and supported, it should work with all hardware :)
[12:46] <mackinac> !resolution | tsalas
[12:46] <ubotu> tsalas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:46] <kenthomson> mynick, no seriously i am in love with all the configuration that is lying there open to be messed around with to crash any evil programs :)
[12:46] <mynick> its cool your giving it a try anyway. i do hope youget work done.
[12:46] <unop> norty,  ok, let's go one by one then
[12:46] <yommb> lol , i wonder if yodude edited his xorg.conf on his LIVE CD , and then rebooted ...
[12:46] <mynick> what kinds of things do you haveto do anyway?
[12:46] <_rd_> can anybody help with restarting the usb devices?
[12:46] <yodude> that's what you told me
[12:46] <unop> norty,  first one - mkdir ~/Desktop/folder
[12:46] <yodude> i replaced it with a backup
[12:46] <kenthomson> mynick, graphics/animation/rendering/movie-editing/audio, that kind of stuff
[12:46] <yodude> then rebooted to the installation
[12:46] <yodude> and got the error again
[12:47] <yommb> yodude : dont reboot , youll lose your settings its a live cd remember
[12:47] <norty> ok
[12:47] <pp|Paul> My usb wireless lan card has been found and installed etc... but I'm trying to connect to a 64bit wep network... I've put in the hex key and attempted to connect (to the right) network.. but as far as I can tell, nothing happens. Any suggestions?
[12:47] <mynick> yodude, oh okay ... so uninstall nvidia drivers next , then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa for your drivers.  that will get you an x session and you can go from there
[12:47] <assasukasse> is there anyone that knows how can i stop a kernel upgrade in edgy
[12:47] <kenthomson> mynick, i am seriously missing all the pro software tools at out development studious now being available on ubuntu
[12:47] <unop> norty,  correction, first one - mkdir ~/Desktop/folder2
[12:47] <mynick> kenthomson, sure, do you do print?
[12:47] <norty> ok
[12:47] <unop> norty,  second one -- sudo cp -Rv ~/Desktop/folder ~/Desktop/folder2
[12:47] <yodude> how do i uninstall nvidia form the command line?
[12:47] <yommb> mynick : won't everything be gone after a reboot >- live cd ??
[12:47] <kenthomson> mynick, no print only computer work, if i worked with print there would be a BIG reason to not use UBUNTU (hint:CMYK)
[12:47] <mynick> kenthomson, for pro 3d we have blender and all the majour 3d apps are available for purchase
[12:48] <norty> ok
[12:48] <norty> -R or -Rv ?
[12:48] <mynick> ah yes then you are in a bit of a doodoo
[12:48] <mynick> gimp doesn't support cmyk but that page layout dealie does
[12:48] <mynick> so you get colour conversion issues *nod*
[12:48] <pbureau> pp|Paul, how do you  know the usb hardware is "seeing" the network ? - try in a terminal window - iwlist  <CARD> scanning (ie: my wifi is ra0 so I use it like so : iwlist ra0 scanning) does it report any wireless networks around you ?
[12:49] <kenthomson> mynick, i tried blender sort-of un-intuitive so i purchased a maya license that serves as something familiar and something of a safe-haven to which i escape to when things like Adobe-premier, 3ds max, sound forge, elastic reality, macromedia flash 8.0 are not in sight :)
[12:49] <mynick> kenthomson, for print you might haveto go back to windows ... but how can you go back to vista, its not like stuff works on vista?
[12:49] <mynick> yeah drop 3dsmax
[12:49] <mynick> why the hell would you use that?
[12:49] <mynick> :)
[12:49] <yodude> mynick: just two questions: since i'm gonna be using a command line:
[12:49] <kenthomson> mynick, i have used that all my life
[12:49] <mynick> lol i'm buggin ya but seriously, max? its more expensive than maya
[12:49] <mynick> yet its a piece of crap
[12:49] <yodude> how o i uninstall nvidia form the c line? and how do i choose vesa as my device?
[12:49] <mynick> yep no adobe on linux ... not sure what hteir plans are
[12:49] <norty> what about the rest unop?
[12:49] <kenthomson> mynick, could we interchange the subjects in your comments to make it sound more sensible?
[12:49] <Uma2> hey, is there a way tp reset all configurations to defualt?
[12:50] <mynick> i run dreamweaver only occasionally and flash in vmware/windows but for that you really should run windows, i don't see them porting any time soon
[12:50] <pp|Paul> pbureau: it found the correct network
[12:50] <unop> norty,  thats it
[12:50] <pp|Paul> Cell 01- Address: .....
[12:50] <kenthomson> yodude, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then find "nvidia", then replace it with "nv"-open-source nvidia drivers or "vesa"
[12:50] <unop> norty,  check the folder now
[12:50] <mynick> kenthomson, you don't have permission to 'interchange subjects'  /chmods kenthompsons mouth to 000
[12:50] <mynick> :)
[12:51] <mynick> no seriously, maya is cheaper and you use max?
[12:51] <mynick> c'mon :)
[12:51] <kenthomson> mynick, ya ya ya
[12:51] <kenthomson> mynick, the interface and the defualts and the years of development support for java itr ROCKS
[12:51] <norty> ok, ill go do that, sorry im running between 2 compuiters in 2 different apartments
[12:51] <norty> !
[12:51] <norty> lol
[12:51] <mynick> kenthomson, okay for your usecase, if i was consulting for you, i would say you have no choice to use windows for now
[12:51] <kenthomson> norty, in-between two different appartments is a bit disturbing are you sure you have the safety rope on?
[12:51] <mynick> if you were doing say desktop publishing you could get away with scribus which is really good
[12:52] <mynick> but you seem to span a larger toolset so i would recommend using windows for work, you might find a workflow that works here but its going to be hard with cmyk support
[12:52] <kenthomson> mynick, in the development-studio we have got no choice but in the free time i enjoy programming java/game programming and so i love to mess with confiugration file which ubuntu allows, so thats what my laptop and homePC run
[12:52] <torerling> Hmm, I wondered if anybody could help me, I'm trying to update my dapper to edgy, but when I've tried the last times my x broke, so I uninstalled my nvidia propiatary drivers, when I try upgrading with update-manager -c I get this error: Failed to fetch http://j.portalier.free.fr/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found, In foreword thanks :)
[12:53] <mynick> we have a decent video editor you can buy, we have a few excellent video editors that are crashy but free, and there are som epro vid editors that you can buy for linux
[12:53] <mynick> for sound editing, theres a great app i forgot the name of that i used to use for multitracking recordings
[12:53] <piglit> oke i have got a simple question .... when i am in a console i need to copy a line witch is 5 line's above the prompt i can do this with the mouse but i dont like the mouse ... how can i select things witch are above the prompt only using a keyboard
[12:53] <torerling> audacity? jokosher?
[12:53] <kenthomson> mynick, i have decided that linux is fit for programming and recreation work, till the graphic companies decide to port their software to it
[12:53] <mynick> so its kinda sorta there but for print ... hard to say
[12:53] <kenthomson> mynick, audacity
[12:53] <mynick> kenthomson, thats not a bad conclusion
[12:54] <mynick> yeah there is another one for multitracking tho
[12:54] <torerling> jokosher mynick ;)
[12:54] <norty> unop, it seems to be going through each file slowly
[12:54] <norty> but when i open folder2, all i see is the 1st folder in there and i cant get into it
[12:54] <unop> piglit,  you need to use something like screen -- or run the command again and pipe it through tail and xclip .. !! | tail -n 5 | xclip
[12:55] <mynick> yodude, ken gave you wrong info, you have no x session and no desktop
[12:55] <mynick> yodude, like i told you 4 times already
[12:55] <kenthomson> mynick, if he doesn;t have X, i didn't know that
[12:55] <mynick> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... go through that its self explanatory
[12:55] <unop> norty,  ok let it finish, we'll get to the permissions then
[12:55] <mynick> at the driver stage select vesa
[12:55] <mynick> i know its confusing and hard but its hard to help if you don't take notes as well
[12:56] <norty> i dont know if it can finish, i had 100 gigs on that partition and my hd is only 160
[12:56] <yodude> ok sorry
[12:56] <norty> and my partition for linux is only 10 gigs
[12:56] <mynick> yodude, no probs i think :)
[12:56] <norty> so will it copy until the 10 gigs fill up?
[12:56] <kenthomson> mynick, bye!
[12:56] <yodude> :)
[12:56] <shafire> !wireless
[12:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:56] <torerling> anyone that can help me upgrading my dapper ? I have problems with it now
[12:57] <mynick> torerling, are you trying to dist-upgrade to edgy?
[12:57] <piglit> thanx
[12:57] <unop> norty, yes, but a few files might be incompletely copied across, and they'll definitely be corrupt if thats the case
[12:57] <mynick> if so don't, you need to reinstall fresh.
[12:57] <mynick> its a known problem that distupgrade fails from dapper to edgy very very very very badly very often
[12:57] <norty> like the last few?
[12:57] <norty> i can just delete them and then recopy them right?
[12:58] <unop> norty,  it's hard to say really which ones.. but yea, probably and mostly the last few
[12:58] <yodude> mynick: could you pass this request to the developpers: can you include a full nvidia driver with the CD please?
[12:58] <yodude> it would SO ease things up
[12:58] <mynick> yodude, we cant really, its not free softwqre, its propreitary
[12:58] <mynick> but
[12:58] <torerling> I tried the graphical way, That I found on ubuntuguide.org, I've tried modding the sources.list and do it in c-line, but My x broke 3 times :P so I'm using the update-manager -c thingy
[12:58] <unop> yodude,  its against debian  and ubuntu policy to include non-free software
[12:58] <mynick> there is some discussion in the next release they might give you the option of choosing a proprietary driver
[12:59] <mynick> it makes it easier but its no good because it doesn't put pressure on the hardwaqre companies to open source their drivers
[12:59] <unop> yodude,  as much as everyone would like nvidia drivers in the distro -- its just not going to happen as long as this policy stands
[12:59] <mynick> i'm hoping it stays
[01:00] <yodude> kk
[01:00] <entr0py> hello
[01:01] <norty> mynick mentioned another way to try to get my data back by making my hd a usb cradle and then using another hd to copy things over... ?
[01:01] <torerling> I tried the graphical way, That I found on ubuntuguide.org, I've tried modding the sources.list and do it in c-line, but My x broke 3 times :P so I'm using the update-manager -c thingy
[01:02] <mynick> norty, yeah i would just recommend that because your not working with live data on the same hd
[01:02] <mynick> norty, another alternative is using norton ghost to image that partition to cds
[01:02] <mynick> norty, another alterantive might be to reinstall windows over top of it self ... it doesnt' erase your data ... at least i don't think, it just moves it aside
[01:03] <unop> mynick,  he mentioned that was 160 gigs or some huge number -- thats a lot of CDs
[01:03] <norty> how many
[01:03] <mynick> ah, norty you have that much actuall data? or maybe just like 10 gigs of data on a large hd in your my docs folder?
[01:04] <mynick> that would be 320 cds if you had all that as data
[01:04] <norty> ive got 100 gigs of data
[01:04] <mynick> but
[01:04] <mynick> thats 200 cds
[01:04] <norty> i need at least 40 of it
[01:04] <unop> norty,  if a CD contains 650/700 MB .. do the math :)
[01:04] <norty> :] 
[01:04] <mynick> or a dvd burner if you have one ... dvds are 4 gigs each
[01:04] <torerling> Long time since I've used irc :S
[01:05] <mynick> sacriledge!
[01:05] <norty> i dont
[01:05] <mynick> torerling, how can irc not be part of your life?
[01:05] <mynick> *cough*
[01:05] <norty> unop its done running
[01:05] <norty> now what
[01:05] <unop> norty,  you could borrow a portable drive from a friend or something -- or if the friend has enough space to back your drive up, do that, convert the drive to ext3, copy stuff back, etc
[01:05] <torerling> mynick, hehe, really, I don't know, so how do I make my text red for you?
[01:06] <torerling> like that? :P
[01:06] <mynick> torerling, want to get banned?
[01:06] <mynick> -_-
[01:06] <mynick> screan in all caps and colours
[01:06] <unop> norty,  sudo sh -c "chown -R $USER.$USER ~/Desktop/folder2; chmod -R 774 ~/Desktop/folder2"
[01:06] <mynick> lets see if the ops have little beepers for that
[01:06] <mynick> hehe
[01:06] <norty> ok
[01:06] <torerling> mynick, no :P why are you asking?
[01:07] <mynick> ohhhhhh you know, lets just say i had a fight with the fascists today and i'm just curious
[01:07] <mynick> *giggle*
[01:07] <mynick> i joke, i joke
[01:07] <torerling> :P
[01:08] <torerling> mynick, so you have any idea of what's wrong with my upgrade? I'll paste my info once more ;) hehe
[01:09] <mynick> what upgrade problem?
[01:09] <mynick> are you dist upgrading from dapper to edgy?
[01:09] <torerling> mynick,  when I try upgrading with update-manager -c I get this error: Failed to fetch http://j.portalier.free.fr/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:09] <ardchoille> I need a server/wiki just for this one machine, no public access and it will hold only my personal tutorials. I am thinking apache+mediawiki would be overkill. What else is there?
[01:09] <mynick> well it can't find it
[01:09] <norty> holy fuck that worked
[01:09] <mynick> its not a problem it doesn't exist
[01:09] <norty> !!!!!!
[01:09] <mynick> commen t it out
[01:10] <mynick> unop, dude you deserver a medal
[01:10] <mynick> that wa a hell of a lot of works
[01:10] <mynick> really
[01:10] <ompaul> !language | norty
[01:10] <ubotu> norty: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:10] <norty> :x
[01:10] <mynick> norty you have access to your data?
[01:10] <norty> yeah
[01:10] <pleilo> hello, excuse, i wanna download a game, in the web page say add this adress to the sources.list but when i want to save it say that i cannot do it! why? what can i do?
[01:10] <mynick> norty sweetness.  backup EVERYTHING asap
[01:10] <torerling> mynick, it's a problem, 'cause it makes the upgrade abort :P
[01:10] <unop> :)
[01:10] <mynick> norty, i'm impressed you did this between two separate appartments
[01:10] <mynick> your neighbours must be pleased
[01:10] <mynick> i find that actually quite amusing as a visual
[01:10] <norty> my problem now is i only have a fraction of it since my linux partition is only 10 gigs but the data i need is 100
[01:10] <norty> they are
[01:10] <norty> lol
[01:11] <EarlGrey42> Helo I have just one silly question I cannot google out
[01:11] <norty> so how do I go about deleting things from a partition if i cant see it
[01:11] <mynick> well you have access to it, you want to now LEAVE IT ALONE
[01:11] <EarlGrey42> where can I set more Desktops in Gnome?
[01:11] <mynick> and go buy your self a usb cradle and a nice large hd
[01:11] <norty> i have access to some of it
[01:11] <mynick> plug it in, it will appear as an icon on your desktop
[01:11] <mynick> and COPY all of it asap
[01:11] <unop> norty,  is this the same partition you wanted to write to earler?
[01:11] <arnadelo> pleilo , sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:11] <ardchoille> EarlGrey42: Right click the pager and choose Preferences
[01:11] <norty> what?
[01:11] <epsilon_> i have previously been using breezy as my main os before formatting my system and installing edgy.. i'm just wondering, given a system with a modest 512 mb memory and 1.8 GHz speed, is it normal to have the system act like windows in terms of lagging? I have heard of new graphic innovations used in the new release (of which, fwiw, i noticed nothing), but the computer is unbearably slow... has anyone else noticed any similiar lag?
[01:11] <Tomcat_> pleilo: You need to call the editor with "sudo" to get enough rights.
[01:11] <mynick> norty, don't foget you CANNOT write to ntfs from linux
[01:11] <mynick> just read
[01:11] <mynick> not yet safely anyway
[01:12] <Tomcat_> epsilon_: The "new graphic innovations" will come with feisty, not edgy.
[01:12] <norty> the partition that im trying to get data from is 100 gigs, i copied the data from that partition to my linux one which is 10 gigs, only a few of the files copied
[01:12] <mynick> torerling, comment it out from your sources.list, update and upgrade again
[01:12] <elkbuntu> mynick, op trolling is not a smart thing to do.
[01:12] <norty> how do I go about getting everything?
[01:12] <mynick> torerling, its not an issue, it just doesn't exist
[01:12] <hzw> Is there anybody who can help me get apache to work on localhost after I installed network-manager (and changed some settings /etc/network/interfaces
[01:12] <unop> mynick,  it's not a lot of work come to think about it .. if i were at the comp, it'd be done in a few minutes-- its just this channel for some reason, contorts lag :)
[01:12] <pleilo> arnadelo_ thanks
[01:12] <mynick> elkbuntu, what the hell are you talking about?
[01:12] <arnducky> epsilon_: that sounds wrong but I don't know what you mean by 'unbearably slow' of course
[01:12] <EarlGrey42> ardchoille: Thank!!! I am so stupid :) I have been lookong all over settings and system properties ...
[01:12] <ardchoille> EarlGrey42: :)
[01:12] <arnadelo> pleilo, have a nice day
[01:13] <elkbuntu> mynick, well apparantly we're... what was the word again
[01:13] <torerling> mynick, I'll try ;) (why didn't I think of it *bangs head into keyboard*) alksvdhojkhdsf
[01:13] <unop> norty,  you need some intermediate freespace to hold that 160gigs of data ..
[01:13] <norty> like another hd?
[01:13] <mynick> elkbuntu, well the FACT that you noticed it, CONFIRMS it, now doesn't it?
[01:13] <unop> norty,  yep
[01:13] <norty> ok
[01:13] <mynick> now how about you just ignore me, let me do my job and help people
[01:13] <norty> i cant get that for a while
[01:13] <norty> ummmm
[01:13] <norty> so wait
[01:13] <elkbuntu> mynick, no, it means i flicked over to see you trying to bait us
[01:13] <mynick> and stop policing every goddamned thing
[01:13] <mynick> jesus
[01:13] <arnducky> Edgy runs raises, an lowers windows, responds to input *much* faster than XP MCE on this dual-boot system
[01:13] <Benno> Hey I noticed that during the livecd install it didn't give me an option to set a root password. So how do I go about su'ing, or setting a root password?
[01:13] <mynick> whos baiting? its the truth
[01:14] <ardchoille> mynick: Bye bye
[01:14] <norty> i need to copy the files from the first folder to the new hd
[01:14] <arnducky> (Ubuntu-desktop i.e. gnome)
[01:14] <norty> how do i do that
[01:14] <epsilon_> oh.. well in takes a while to process tasks.. slow mouse movements every now and then, and well, slow internet, but no dns failure issues from what i can see.. it's just a steep drop in performance from breezy... is this normal?
[01:14] <arnducky> ompaul   =o)
[01:14] <Mez> ompaul, you're quicker once again
[01:14] <unop> norty,  if i were you -- i'd continue using this disk for the time being .. and copy files to a temporary space if i need to use them
[01:15] <norty> i can copy them to another computer
[01:15] <arnadelo> Benno you only to need to create an user an a password for him and that password will be the root password
[01:15] <arnducky> Benno: you'll have to edit sudoers I'm afraid
[01:15] <norty> but
[01:15] <unop> Benno,  ubuntu doesnt recommend su -- use sudo -i instead
[01:15] <norty> say the first 10 files out of 100 were copied because of space
[01:15] <norty> i can move those 10 files to another computer
[01:15] <norty> but how do i go about copying the next 90 files to where the first 10 files were
[01:16] <unop> arnadelo,  the first user can sudo -- he's a member of the admin group which sudoers acknowledges
[01:16] <Benno> Alright, cheers mates.
[01:16] <norty> like i copy the first 10, move them to new computer, delete first 10, copy next 10, move them, delete them, copy next 10... etc
[01:16] <unop> norty,  why dont you plug the harddrive in the other computer and copy them across :)
[01:16] <Wooksta> anyone know of a program i can use to make iso images from folders?
[01:16] <norty> i can do that
[01:16] <norty> wait
[01:16] <unop> norty,  this way will be very tiring :)
[01:17] <norty> i know
[01:17] <ardchoille> Wooksta: mkisofs
[01:17] <arnducky> invoking sudo -i will give you a root shell, but you will not be able to actually login as 'root' even from a recovery console.  su root is impossible not just 'not recomended' since there is no root password; it will fail.
[01:17] <unop> norty,  does the other computer have enough space ?
[01:17] <norty> yeah
[01:17] <Wooksta> ardchoille, thanks :)
[01:17] <epsilon_> so, um, anyone? is edgy slowness unheard of?
[01:17] <norty> can i somehow copy the files from the first folder to the other computer or ipod?
[01:18] <unop> arnducky,  actually ubuntu has a little trick up its sleeve for the single user/recovery mode -- root access is enabled there
[01:18] <pbureau> arnducky, well on a stodck box there is a disabled password for root, saying there is no root account is inaccurate
[01:18] <norty> instead of like copying them from the first folder to folder2, copy them from the first folder to new hd in new computer or copy them from first folder to ipod?
[01:18] <unop> norty,  if you can mount the other computers share locally .. then you can copy over directly
[01:18] <torerling> mynick, thanks :) it works now, I tried installing the engage dock some time ago ;) so tht was the problem, again, thanks :)
[01:19] <unop> norty,  what does the other computer run? windows?
[01:19] <norty> yea
[01:19] <CrakeHunter> how do i activate AC3passthrough on my system? im using a audigy 2zs
[01:20] <unop> norty,  ok .. create a writable share on the windows machine -- and mount it locally using smbfs -- then copy from ~/Desktop/folder to that mount point
[01:20] <ardchoille> Wooksta: mkisofs -o filename.iso /path/to/directory
[01:20] <entr0py> hello all
[01:20] <ardchoille> Wooksta: Sorry for the lag
[01:20] <arnducky> pbureau: look at what I actually said (with apologies to unop)
[01:20] <entr0py> does anyone know a good dvd burning app for ubuntu?
[01:20] <Wooksta> ardchoille, npz and thanks again :)
[01:20] <norty> how do i create a writable share
[01:21] <unop> arnducky,  why are you apologising? :)
[01:21] <torerling> entr0py, k3b is a nice one ;)
[01:21] <pleilo> arnadelo: i have another question, i have an nternal video card via technologies, can i use beryl compiz or something like that to see my desktop with all that effects i see in some videos of youtube.com?
[01:21] <entr0py> torer, is it only for kde?
[01:21] <unop> norty,  i think if you share a folder on windows, its automatically set to be writable ..
[01:21] <norty> ok
[01:21] <arnducky> unop you're right about booting to recovery kernel of course
[01:21] <norty> you mean like over a network?
[01:22] <pleilo> i have another question, i have an nternal video card via technologies, can i use beryl compiz or something like that to see my desktop with all that effects i see in some videos of youtube.com?
[01:22] <unop> norty,  in any case, you can mount the c$ share on windows locally .. and that if accessed by the administrator is definitely writable
[01:22] <ompaul> acez, u there?
[01:22] <torerling> entr0py, You can use KDEprograms in gnome with no problem, myself I use gnomebaker, but k3b has more choices,
[01:22] <Jowi> pleilo, no, only intel, nvidia and ati supported atm.
[01:23] <norty> unop is there anyway i can do that copy 10, move 10, delete 10, copy next 10.. etc method?
[01:23] <unop> arnducky,  in the recovery mode, its the same kernel only init is running it in a just different runlevel
[01:23] <arnducky> init 3 or init 1
[01:23] <unop> norty,  errm, i prefer you mount the other machine's share locally -- less error prone
[01:23] <entr0py> torerling, well is gnomebaker better than k3b?
[01:23] <norty> thats more difficult
[01:23] <unop> arnducky,  it'd be 1
[01:24] <unop> norty,  it's a little more work at first .. not difficult -- on the other hand -- the 10by10 approach is going to be more work and could fail
[01:24] <arnducky> unop init 3 is single-user mode with an X-server isn't it (like a failsafe X-Windows or Gnome session)?
[01:24] <ompaul> entr0py, you have files you put them on a cd/dvd both do that, so it is a matter of taste
[01:24] <unop> norty,  but why dont you plug this harddrive into that computer?
[01:25] <torerling> entr0py, It looks better in gnome, and it may be a littlebit faster, 'cause you don't have to start the kdespesific things, but I think k3b is the best actually but, both are good
[01:25] <norty> ok so what do I do, put my hd into this computer?
[01:25] <torerling> entr0py, so like ompaul said it's a matter of taste
[01:25] <entr0py> torerling, thanks for the advice i will look at both
[01:25] <unop> arnducky,  errm, on debian ubuntu -- runlevel 2 is the defaul -- while the other runlevels are almost never used -- but what you say probably holds true for something like redhat/mandrake/fedora, etc
[01:26] <ardchoille> Wooksta: Do you have gnomebaker installed?
[01:26] <torerling> entr0py, good choice, it's like the wm fight, you just have to decide what you like yoursekves ;)
[01:26] <unop> norty,  errm no, take this NTFS drive (mounted at ~/Desktop/folder) over to the remote computer -- plug it in, boot up, copy the files across, etc
[01:27] <norty> wait wait im so confused, right now im on a friends computer
[01:27] <norty> my computer is the one with unbuntu and the data i need and shit
[01:27] <Wooksta> ardchoille, yup i do
[01:27] <norty> so do I take my hd and put it into his computer, or do I take his hd and put it into my computer?
[01:28] <unop> norty, watch the language -- too many kids about :)
[01:28] <arnducky> unop thought three was used for debugging -- used it on Breezy and Dapper with broken X servers -- seemed to allow me bring down rogue X-servers and rollback video drivers
[01:28] <norty> lol what?
[01:28] <unop> norty,  ok, take the NTFS drive with your stuff out from the ubuntu machine .. take it over to your friends machine and plug it in, etc
[01:29] <unop> norty,  4 letter words are forbidden in here :)
[01:29] <arnducky> and I thought init 5 was default (init 6 being reboot)
[01:29] <arnducky> unop, words like NTFS?
[01:29] <arnducky> ;-)
[01:29] <norty> what do you mean my ntfs drive?
[01:29] <norty> i only have 1 hd
[01:29] <assasukasse> hi all, i need to prevent my system to upgrade the kernel, how can i do that
[01:29] <norty> that hd has ntfs partitions and linux partitions
[01:29] <unop> arnducky,  it could be so -- but no, runlevel 2 is default on debian and ubuntu -- if you ran init, you could check the inittab file
[01:29] <jiu> hello, anybody have a TTF (true type font) Devin SemiBold?
[01:29] <Wooksta> ardchoille, can i add files to an existing ISO in some way?
[01:30] <wikignom> hi folks, thanks for answering this newbie question: three weeks ago, I decided trying out knoppix. two weeks ago, i downloaded ubuntu. what's the next step before i can "install"? i guess i need to partition the hard drive, right? (i have never installed an OS before...)
[01:30] <unop> arnducky,  ha ha -- NTFS should be banned in here eventually ..
[01:30] <unop> norty,  ok, in that case, i mean that drive then :p
[01:30] <norty> put my drive into his computer?
[01:30] <norty> ok
[01:30] <unop> norty,  yep, that way :)
[01:30] <norty> then how do I boot into an OS?
[01:31] <norty> hes got xp, ive got xp and linux
[01:31] <unop> norty,  you never done this before?
[01:31] <posticaruss> .
[01:31] <norty> no
[01:31] <arnducky> actually now that gparted has access to ntfsprogs and fusermount on the Live CD, NTFS is not such a bugbear
[01:31] <hayden> !grub
[01:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> a newbie question please
[01:32] <arnducky> certainly not worth buying a Partition Magic license from Symantec for
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have a live cd ubuntu
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> version 5.10
[01:32] <unop> norty,  make sure you plug in your drive as a slave drive (configure the jumpers for this if it's a non-SATA drive) .. open up his case, plug your hdd in, boot up .. your HDD should be detected in "my computer"
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I am using it right now
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I love it very much
[01:32] <frogzoo> !enter | Eko_Hermiyanto
[01:32] <ubotu> Eko_Hermiyanto: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:32] <norty> my drive is sata
[01:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> can I install it in my hard disk?
[01:32] <norty> does sata automatically configure as slave?
[01:33] <frogzoo> Eko_Hermiyanto: not from the 5.10 live disk no - 6.10 yes
[01:33] <unop> norty, ok in thet case, it should just work if you plug your drive in and boot -- but if you find his computer booting your XP .. you need to configure the BIOS to choose his HDD .. the rest is normal
[01:33] <norty> once i plug my hd in, how do I go about copying files using linux from that 160gig partition to one of his partitions?
[01:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto> frogzoo : is it possible for me to install ubuntu directly from the internet?
[01:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto> frogzoo : I love it very much and I want to have it on my computer all the time
[01:34] <unop> norty,  ahh no, his computer will be running his windows XP .. although it will have detected your harddrive and mounted it -- you shoould just be able to access your stuff from within "My Computer"
[01:35] <frogzoo> Eko_Hermiyanto: you need to have an install disk
[01:35] <unop> norty,  i.e. his computer will just think of your harddrive as another of its harddrives
[01:35] <norty> ok..
[01:35] <Eko_Hermiyanto> frogzoo : the install disk is somewhat broken
[01:35] <norty> but how do I get that data from that one partition then?
[01:35] <norty> the partition didnt show up in My Computer when i booted to xp.. why would it for his?
[01:35] <neowolf> is there a way to set the gnome window selector so it uses a fixed bar length, or more reasonable so it doesn't shrink and expand all the time, hard to explan what i mean, but i'm sure other people have noticed it too
[01:35] <neowolf> ?
[01:36] <unop> norty,  open up my computer .. look for your drive .. open it up, select files you want to copy .. go back to my computer.. find a drive with free space .. paste .. simple :)
[01:36] <norty> it should show up?
[01:36] <norty> even if it didnt show up under my My Computer?
[01:37] <Bonez> where can I find the file xorg.conf?
[01:37] <jpjacobs> Bonez, /etc/X11/
[01:37] <unop> norty,  if it's not detected in my computer you could try mounting it from "disk management" .. start - run - diskmgmt.msc
[01:37] <Eko_Hermiyanto> Bonez, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:37] <Bonez> tks
[01:37] <Eko_Hermiyanto> or just find it with...
[01:37] <Eko_Hermiyanto> sudo find /etc -name xorg.conf -print
[01:37] <norty> can I do that on my own computer?
[01:37] <unop> norty,  if it's running windows, sure
[01:38] <norty> ok, ill try brb
[01:38] <unop> norty,  but ideally, windows mounts all drives auto
[01:39] <der_mane> Hello
[01:39] <norty> whats weird is
[01:39] <norty> i mounted drive sda1 in ubuntu
[01:39] <der_mane> I have a problem with the new kernel update (2.6.17-11-generic)
[01:39] <elkbuntu> unop, except ones marked hidden, as for instance, some recovery partitions are
[01:39] <norty> and it showed all the files which were in 2 different partitions
[01:39] <twelvefour> mornin
[01:40] <seravitae> what's an alternative to gnome-terminal that is good? (transparency and stuff) I cant use gnome-terminal because i found a bug in it.
[01:40] <norty> and it copied some of those over
[01:40] <dsfsda> ubuntu linux sux
[01:40] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae : konsole
[01:40] <unop> elkbuntu,  thats usually because they dont use a filesystem that windows recognises
[01:40] <twelvefour> dsfsda thank you :)
[01:40] <norty> so when im in xp, which is in partition one (sda1) it will show c: which is sda1 but not d: which is sda5
[01:40] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae, konsole the terminal emulator of the kde
[01:40] <Eko_Hermiyanto> dsfsda, ubuntu linux is rock
[01:40] <norty> but when i mounted sda1 it copied files from both in linux
[01:40] <norty> so which do i mount in windows?
[01:40] <seravitae> Eko_Hermiyanto: if i install konsole i'd have to install like 50mb of kde libs.
[01:41] <twelvefour> dsfsda slackware or gentoo user right?
[01:41] <elkbuntu> unop, well, my mother's windows xp recovery partition is hidden.. and tagged as such.
[01:41] <unop> norty,  you can mount both in windows :) .. as any drive letter thats freely available
[01:41] <les> 6.10 live cd hangs at boot, have tried pci-noacpi, noapic nolapic etc no luck, any help/suggestions?
[01:42] <dsfsda> hmm
[01:42] <twelvefour> les yeah, inforutnately just eithe give up or try knoppix
[01:42] <dsfsda> ubuntu 6.10 is out?
[01:42] <csg> hello can anybody help me installing my netgear wireless card please
[01:42] <der_mane> My ipw3945 doesn't work since the kernel update.
[01:42] <twelvefour> les sometimes the hardware just isn't supported
[01:42] <les> knoppix 5.1.1 works
[01:42] <unop> elkbuntu,  yea, well, if you used something like the disk management console, you'd probably notice that it doesnt use fat/ntfs (notice i say probably)
[01:42] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae : well, I know only gnome-terminal and konsole which have good support for transparency and such
[01:42] <twelvefour> les probably a driver issue.  where does it stop just out of curiosity?
[01:42] <les> I'm currently running 6.06.1
[01:42] <seravitae> yeah
[01:42] <seravitae> well, it seems the problem also exists with xterm as well
[01:43] <seravitae> i guess i will have to live without a terminal.
[01:43] <les> I get a kernel panic and it just dies
[01:43] <twelvefour> seravitae just curious, what bug have you found in it?
[01:43] <twelvefour> les  ah driver issue almost guaranteed
[01:43] <seravitae> Oh, wait, xterm works. my bad.
[01:43] <dsfsda> ubuntu linux is basically shit
[01:43] <seravitae> twelvefour: actually it's not really a *bug*, but it is a limitation.
[01:43] <twelvefour> les  driver borks and takes down the kernle
[01:43] <unop> !language | dsfsda
[01:43] <ubotu> dsfsda: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:43] <seravitae> I overflowed the integer value for the location of the window or something
[01:43] <twelvefour> dsfsda yey! thanks for sharing
[01:44] <dsfsda> ubotu: stfu fucking ass hole
[01:44] <seravitae> basically i have a triple-xinerama setup here. gnome-terminal freaks out if i open it from another term.
[01:44] <les> whats diff between 6.06 and 6.1
[01:44] <unop> !ops
[01:44] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:44] <GreyGhost> dsfsda ,thats a smart thing to say in a place full of Ubuntu users ;))
[01:44] <dsfsda> i use windows xp
[01:44] <dsfsda> its much betetter
[01:44] <twelvefour> seravitae oh, l33t
[01:44] <seravitae> Heh, yeah.
[01:44] <GreyGhost> dsfsda ,so do i .. so stop fsking this place up ..
[01:44] <therapy> dsfsda:  lol
[01:44] <twelvefour> seravitae i bet it has something to do with overal
[01:45] <twelvefour> bah typing is terrible tonight
[01:45] <twelvefour> overlays
[01:45] <SoulChild> hey, where to check autostarted applications??? (FILE)
[01:45] <seravitae> twelvefour: maybe
[01:45] <seravitae> but i have NFI how to fix it.
[01:45] <norty> unop
[01:45] <unop> norty,  yep
[01:45] <norty> i can't mount the correct partition
[01:45] <twelvefour> seravitae :/ yeah thats terrible, sounds like a very cool setup
[01:45] <seravitae> all i know is that xterm works, and gnome-terminal conks out with "The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[01:45] <norty> doesnt let me
[01:46] <unop> norty,  is this windows?
[01:46] <norty> yeah
[01:46] <norty> it says the filetype of that partitions is NTFS but its an Unknown Partition
[01:46] <unop> norty,  join #ubuntu-offtopic .. we'll talk there
[01:46] <seravitae> twelvefour, i will probably whinge to gnome-terminal bug site or something, since this triple-head box will be hex-head soon.
[01:46] <seravitae> or find some other nice terminal.
[01:46] <twelvefour> seravitae good idea
[01:47] <twelvefour> oh wow, /me looks up hex
[01:47] <twelvefour> 8 heads?
[01:47] <seravitae> 6
[01:47] <twelvefour> what are you doing on it?
[01:47] <seravitae> i had quadhead 19" lcds
[01:47] <twelvefour> neato
[01:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae : but, I am using gnome-terminal and all just fine
[01:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> there is no bug at all
[01:47] <seravitae> Eko_Hermiyanto:  on a triple-head computer?
[01:47] <twelvefour> twelvefour your mounting two rows of 3 monis?
[01:47] <Eko_Hermiyanto> only in my presario c300 laptop and a desktop system
[01:47] <seravitae> um, im a student, i run a business, i do gfx design, in my spare time i'm a nerd, do development hardware/software, etc.
[01:48] <seravitae> Eko_Hermiyanto:  that doesn't count at all towards my issue
[01:48] <twelvefour> seravitae ah just for fun? nice
[01:48] <Eko_Hermiyanto> seravitae, ohhh ic... sorry
[01:48] <seravitae> twelvefour: haha. blatently, yes :P
[01:48] <ardchoille> I need a server/wiki just for this one machine, no public access and it will hold only my personal tutorials. I am thinking apache+mediawiki would be overkill. What else is there?
[01:48] <seravitae> twelvefour:  some kids spend $1000 on a graphics card. I see no point in that, ergonomics, features, accessories are my thing :)
[01:48] <twelvefour> ardchoille too much choice .. but anything web based is over kill
[01:49] <twelvefour> ardchoille why don't you look at a wiki like app ... there are a few out there
[01:49] <twelvefour> i don't have names of them as i never used them, just passed someone writing something completely useless, like a local wiki app
[01:49] <twelvefour> and lo and behodl you pop up asking for that :)
[01:49] <twelvefour> hehe
[01:49] <melon> any ideas as to why every single video player i use is way over contrast? it's only videos - everything else seems fine - i've searched forums 'n have seen the same problem with no response nor solution..
[01:50] <twelvefour> melon what do you mean overcontrast? like different players even?
[01:50] <frogzoo> ardchoille: maybe plone or zope - maybe overkill still
[01:50] <ardchoille> twelvefour: A wiki-like app? Hmm.. I'll look around for something lile that. Thanks for the suggestion.
[01:50] <twelvefour> melon dif players tend to have their own settings
[01:50] <ardchoille> frogzoo: I'll look into those too :)
[01:50] <twelvefour> melon ohhhh just out of curiosity are you running nvidia drivers?
[01:51] <ompaul> ardchoille, pmwiki pretty much rocks
[01:51] <ompaul> ardchoille, small and easy to work with
[01:51] <melon> well - i didn't think so.. but apparently that's the only connection
[01:51] <ardchoille> ompaul: That it does, but I need apache+php5 for that, right?
[01:51] <ompaul> no
[01:51] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install
[01:51] <albe> hi all
[01:51] <twelvefour> ardchoille hey no problem i'm on a roll today
[01:51] <ompaul> iirc
[01:51] <Bonez> I installed gsynaptics but when I click on the icon in the menu to opent it, it tells me I need to set"SHMConfig" to true in xorg.conf but there is no SHMConfig in xorg.conf. any ideas?
[01:52] <melon> i can only assume that i am.. but even so.. the forums don't offer any solution from what i can tell
[01:52] <twelvefour> melon nvidia has a config app that has some strange settings thta i noticed sometimes affet only vide but its been a long time.  but since you don't run nvidia not an issue
[01:52] <albe> si there someone who is using the keyboard wireless 6000 V2 ?
[01:52] <ardchoille> !pmwiki
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pmwiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <twelvefour> melon sorry i don't know, at least someone answered :) good luck
[01:52] <ompaul> hmm
[01:52] <ompaul> sorry
[01:52] <ardchoille> !apache
[01:52] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:52] <melon> at least you've pointed me in a direction..
[01:52] <melon> i'll keep looking
[01:52] <melon> cheers
[01:53] <twelvefour> melon no worries mate, g'luck
[01:53] <twelvefour> next!
[01:54] <ompaul> ardchoille, -- it was so easy even I used it ;-)  http://pmwiki.com/wiki/PmWiki/Requirements
[01:54] <Bonez> anyone know where i can find the file XF86Config?
[01:54] <twelvefour> Bonez we don't use xf86 anyone
[01:54] <twelvefour> we use xorg
[01:54] <twelvefour> its xorg.conf
[01:54] <twelvefour> next!
[01:55] <ompaul> Bonez, there is none you want look in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <therapy> melon:  put  Option  "SHMConfig"  "on" in your Section InputDevice in your xorg.conf
[01:55] <Bonez> ompaul Im looking for SHMConfig in xorg.conf but its not there
[01:56] <ardchoille> ompaul: Yeah, I used pmwiki for a while, it definitely rocks.
[01:56] <twelvefour> Bonez what are you trying to do anyway?
[01:56] <hayden> do cds get mounted automatically using ubuntu server?
[01:56] <`k> does ubuntu shipit still sending free ubuntu installers?
[01:56] <`k> i still got no reply like 3 months now
[01:56] <Bonez> gsynaptics tells me i need to set SHMConfig to true
[01:57] <twelvefour> hayden good question.  my thinking is yes, i don't think they have different scripts for that
[01:57] <Jowi_n1> hayden, you mean during or after installation?
[01:57] <GreyGhost> `k ,it should still semd .06
[01:57] <Eko_Hermiyanto> gtg
[01:57] <Eko_Hermiyanto> bye bye all
[01:57] <hayden> Jowi_n1, after
[01:57] <twelvefour> Bonez for what to work?
[01:57] <Eko_Hermiyanto> thanks for the help
[01:57] <therapy> melon:  sry was meant for Bonez
[01:57] <Alzi2> Can anyone help me with that? I'm trying to set an application to open on a file with the extension .SMD, but when i do "open with.." it doesn't show up the "always open with this application" thing. Why doesn't it do that?
[01:57] <therapy> Bonez:  put  Option  "SHMConfig"  "on" in your Section InputDevice in your xorg.conf
[01:57] <twelvefour> ah what therapy said ... right
[01:57] <`k> GreyGhost you mean i still need to wait for 6 months?
[01:57] <twelvefour> therapy what is that for?
[01:57] <Bonez> twelvefour its for my touch pad on laptop
[01:57] <Jowi_n1> hayden, no cd's get mounted automatically. you can set it up in gnome though. however, a mountpoint to your cdrom should exist in /etc/fstab
[01:58] <GreyGhost>  `k ,err... u shouldnt... it should come in a few weeks time ...
[01:58] <twelvefour> ah! danke
[01:58] <hayden> Jowi_n1, its a plain ubuntu server install with no GUI
[01:58] <therapy> twelvefour:  not sure... but i found it to be in my xorg.conf an working fine :-)
[01:58] <PwcrLinux> Hello all
[01:58] <Bonez> but I can't even find SHMConfig
[01:58] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,hello
[01:58] <twelvefour> Bonez its not in there, you haveto add it like therapy said
[01:58] <Jowi_n1> hayden, so no. no automatic mount as soon as you insert the cd.
[01:58] <psychoid-1> SpookedOut
[01:58] <Bonez> ahhh ic
[01:59] <hayden> Jowi_n1, ok thanks
[01:59] <twelvefour> Jowi_n1 for server?
[01:59] <[ginge] > hi all I was wondering, youknow there's a shortcut key for alt_tab to switch between apps in a current workspace. is there a shortcut key that switches between workspaces?
[01:59] <twelvefour> how come? the scripts should be the same no?
[01:59] <jrib> Alzi2: can right click, first go to "properties", and then the "open with" tab?
[01:59] <Bonez> therapy does it matter where?
[01:59] <seravitae> twelvefour: identified and worked around the bug.
[01:59] <`k> Can someone send me free cd installer of ubuntu?
[01:59] <`k> pls?
[01:59] <frogzoo> giesen: sys -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:59] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: I still getting segmentation fault on firefox 1.5.0.9 with flashplayer 9 by using extra command in the terminal
[01:59] <twelvefour> `k you mean by mail?
[01:59] <adaptr> [ginge] : ctrl-Alt Left/Right
[01:59] <Bonez> therapy sorry im quite the noob
[01:59] <seravitae> xinerama + nvidia + ARGB/composite = blah. so i just made a sh script that sets an environment variable to disable ARGB for gnometerminal, works fine. :)
[01:59] <`k> twelvefour:yeah =)
[02:00] <jrib> `k: visit shipit.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <[ginge] > <adaptr>: many thanks :D
[02:00] <`k> jrib: i did.i still got no cd here its 3 months now
[02:00] <ardchoille> `k: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[02:00] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux , no idea :( sorry ... has it always been a problem?
[02:00] <`k> jrib:i orderd 1 cd.
[02:00] <andre> hello
[02:00] <twelvefour> what jrib  said
[02:00] <Alzi2> jrib: Nope. no such tab.
[02:00] <GreyGhost> andre ,yes?
[02:00] <Jowi_n1> twelvefour, for any installation. the mountpoint is in /etc/fstab but have the noauto flag
[02:00] <andre> how do I determine what kernle version I have?
[02:00] <twelvefour> `k why not download it and burn it?
[02:00] <twelvefour> its the same thing?
[02:00] <jrib> `k: where are you from?
[02:00] <yacoob> Greetings. Why linux-686 got obsoleted by linux-generic?
[02:00] <GreyGhost> andre ,"uname:
[02:00] <LinuxHelp> Linking question: Does anyone know what library is missing or configuration setting is wrong with http://rafb.net/p/6IwYo725.html ?
[02:00] <Jowi_n1> twelvefour, think gnome uses a udev rule for automounts
[02:01] <`k> jrib:Philippines sir
[02:01] <therapy> in the Section "InputDevice" of your synaptics driver
[02:01] <twelvefour> Jowi_n1 yeah, i didn't realize it changed
[02:01] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: yea, alway problem with a FP 9 and even about:config string of "network.IDN.blacklist_chars" garbled string
[02:01] <`k> twelvefour: 2kbp/s =/ im on dial up
[02:01] <twelvefour> oh wait gnome
[02:01] <twelvefour> i see, makes sense
[02:01] <twelvefour> thanks
[02:01] <therapy> Bonez:  in the Section "InputDevice" of your synaptics driver
[02:02] <andre> GreyGhost: uname returns Linux
[02:02] <LinuxHelp> uname -a
[02:02] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux , tried #firefox ?
[02:02] <GreyGhost> andre ,sorry .. yes as LinuxHelp said uname -a
[02:02] <andre> thanks :)
[02:02] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: in freenode?
[02:02] <therapy> Bonez:  have a look at this link : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[02:02] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,yes
[02:02] <`k> any rich people here who are willing to send free installer of ubuntu please?
[02:02] <jrib> `k: have you tried to contact the phillipines loco team? #ubuntu-ph  ubuntu-ph@lists.ubuntu.com http://ubuntu-ph.org/forum/
[02:02] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: okay
[02:03] <GreyGhost> `k , try asking for one more?
[02:03] <elkbuntu> #ubuntu-ph | `k
[02:03] <`k> jrib:i didnt know that theres a webby for philippine ubuntu.thanks
[02:03] <maxx18> hi guys... how can i stop /var/log/aptitude from ever getting deleted/rotated? i want a permanent record of what i installed.
[02:03] <elkbuntu> jrib, you're too quick, man
[02:03] <Alzi2> jrib: Nope. no such tab.
[02:04] <`k> GreyGhost:i did twice
[02:04] <adaptr> maxx18: /etc/logrotate.(d|conf)
[02:04] <jrib> Alzi2: can you send me this file or is private?
[02:04] <GreyGhost> `k , :( ... i downloaded my 6.10 ...
[02:04] <Bonez> therapy thank you that's what i needed
[02:05] <CrakeHunter> how do i enable ac3 passthrough?
[02:05] <`k> GreyGhost Yo rich sir?send me one
[02:05] <Bonez> i hope
[02:05] <`k> GreyGhost =)
[02:05] <therapy> Bonez:  np
[02:05] <maxx18> adaptr, not sure what to do with that ;)
[02:05] <Alzi2> jrib: Not really private, but.. kind of illegal (it's a rom.....) but my grandma has it so i think it's legal
[02:05] <adaptr> maxx18: that is where you set log rotation rules
[02:05] <GreyGhost> `k ,err.... i'm prbably too far of to send u one... asia ..
[02:05] <adaptr> philippines is not in asia ??
[02:06] <`k> GreyGhost: yeah philippines is in asia
[02:06] <jrib> Alzi2: ok, well you might have to add it to the mime database.  Are you familiar with doing that?
[02:06] <Alzi2> jrib: Nope.
[02:06] <`k> adaptr:it is in asia
[02:06] <GreyGhost>  `k ,and never sent anything outa international from India ...
[02:06] <GreyGhost> adaptr .my bad :(
[02:06] <Alzi2> jrib: Wait.. it's in KDE.. you know that, right?
[02:06] <jrib> Alzi2: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[02:07] <GreyGhost> `k ,get someone from phillipines to send it to u?
[02:07] <jrib> Alzi2: oh, no I didn't know it was in kde
[02:07] <GreyGhost> `k ,and i'm not rich...i'm a meddle class guys... who is 16 yrs old :(
[02:07] <maxx18> adaptr, oh ok i see... so what line should i add to /etc/logrotate.conf so that it will never replace the aptitude log....?
[02:07] <Alzi2> jrib: Sorry for the misunderstanding, then.
[02:07] <`k> GreyGhost im 14 either
[02:07] <adaptr> definitely meddle-class then :)
[02:07] <jrib> !defaultapp | Alzi2
[02:07] <ubotu> Alzi2: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[02:07] <psychoid-1> [Free Space] :-[C 148.63/153.38GB] -[Total 148.63/153.38GB] 
[02:08] <jrib> Alzi2: does that work?
[02:08] <Alzi2> Yeah, i'm in.
[02:08] <Alzi2> what to do now?
[02:08] <adaptr> maxx18: no.... you should read the logrotate docs to see how to alter the aptitude settings to keep all logs.. not rotating it is silly
[02:09] <guerrillawon> I run Ubuntu 64, with Firefox32 for flash. I've lost sound and tried everything on the forums to try to restore it. Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get sound working again?
[02:09] <maxx18> adaptr: i'm confused... do i need to read the logrotate docs or the aptitude docs?
[02:09] <albe> Someone konws if keyboard wireless 6000 V2 is working with linux?
[02:09] <daniel007> I need help.  I booted my machine this morning (ubuntu 6.10), and for some unknown reason there's a constant loud beep throught out the entire session (starts at the login window, stops when the system is shutting down).  I can mute the pcm channel or the master channel as a work around.  How do I get rid of this?
[02:10] <adaptr> maxx18: which application does what you don't want ? *I* think that's logrotate, but *you* should check to make sure...
[02:10] <jrib> Alzi2: try that konqueror menu that ubotu mentioned
[02:10] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: either 2 of freenode or mozilla server. they're might sleeping right now
[02:10] <andre> would anyone know what the latest nvidia drivers are? like for example is it 2.6.17.5-12~amaranth? I'm on 2.6.17-11
[02:11] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,:( ... do u really need Flash 9?
[02:11] <maxx18> adaptr, ok i think i'm getting somewhere.... found a file /etc/logrotate.d/aptitude..... it is set to "rotate 6" "monthly" etc.... i should change something in this file yes?
[02:11] <andre> would anyone know what the latest nvidia drivers are? like for example is it 2.6.17.5-12~amaranth? I'm on 2.6.17-11
[02:12] <GreyGhost> !nvidia | andre
[02:12] <ubotu> andre: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:12] <Alzi2> jrib: Yes, i did, but what to do in that section?
[02:12] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: yea, I wanted to watch a tv news website.
[02:12] <neowolf> er, from nvidia they are 97**
[02:12] <erick> my ge4 mx440 should use 96**
[02:12] <neowolf> will ubutu/gnome ever get the scroll wheel click scoller thing
[02:12] <jrib> Alzi2: I'm not sure, I don't use kde.  If it isn't clear and no one here knows, you might try #kubuntu
[02:13] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,the older flash wont do it?
[02:14] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: yes, some tv sites auto detecting, they ask me to use FP 9
[02:14] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,how did u install Flash 9 ?
[02:14] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: it's on adobe website
[02:15] <GreyGhost> PwcrLinux ,u should have used the ones in the repos ... u in 6.10 rigght?
[02:15] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux did you extractc the gzip file and copy the file sover?
[02:15] <twelvefour> or did you use their install script?
[02:15] <PwcrLinux> GreyGhost: I am breezy
[02:16] <PwcrLinux> Ops: hang on there.. someone want ask me for versions of my box..
[02:16] <GreyGhost> ahh ... i dont know if its in the breazy repos yet... :(
[02:16] <daniel007> I need help.  I booted my machine this morning (ubuntu 6.10), and for some unknown reason there's a constant loud beep throught out the entire session (starts at the login window, stops when the system is shutting down).  I can mute the pcm channel or the master channel as a work around.  How do I get rid of this?
[02:16] <guerrillawon> albe: I'm searching to see if your keyboard is compatible but I'm coming up with nothing. I'm not sure, and I don't see why it wouldn't work, but you might want to be cautious.
[02:16] <PwcrLinux> done
[02:16] <neowolf> the repo version of flash is 7.0, get the one from http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW, `tar -xf` and run the install script
[02:17] <PwcrLinux> I had FP 7
[02:17] <PwcrLinux> before upgrade it
[02:17] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux i just don't know what the plugins are compiled against
[02:18] <twelvefour> they might be expecting a particular library that has a specific version number ,and perhaps what its finding is just slightly different enough to cause the crashes
[02:18] <twelvefour> i don't know
[02:18] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: How i can revert back to FP 7?
[02:18] <guerrillawon> I run Ubuntu 64, with Firefox32 for flash. I've lost sound and tried everything on the forums to try to restore it. Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get sound working again?
[02:18] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux oh easy, just delete the fp plugins from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[02:19] <PwcrLinux> okay
[02:20] <ltk05> I have a silly question. Everytime I logon to ubuntu I'm automatically connected to the web. I'm using a router, so I guess that's the problem. How can I manually disconnect and connect to the internet? Thanks!
[02:20] <Bartek> hi, is there any good broken DVD recovery software for linux ?
[02:20] <twelvefour> ltk05 /syste/admin/networking
[02:20] <twelvefour> turn your network card on and off
[02:21] <Bartek> like when you finish burning data and it is not accessible :/
[02:21] <ltk05> thanks
[02:21] <twelvefour> hey no prob
[02:21] <Jowi_n1> ltk05, set up the connection in the router,
[02:23] <daniel007> psychoid-1: I think my private msg to you is being blocked. (I'm not a registered user)
[02:23] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Hmm I have one file libunixprintplugin.so
[02:23] <twelvefour> in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins?
[02:23] <twelvefour> at least you should have symlinks in there
[02:23] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: yes
[02:23] <twelvefour> then the plug isnt' installed
[02:24] <twelvefour> install the plugin from the repost ... the non free one
[02:24] <balrok> hello.. i have one computer which is connected over wlan through the internet.. and i have a laptop which is connected through ethernet to the first computer.. i already set up the connection between both computers.. but now i want to get internet on the other pc.. how it works?
[02:24] <con-man> linux>windows
[02:24] <balrok> btw i'm using ubuntu 6.1 with gnoe on both pcs
[02:24] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: let me look in FF browser to find where the plugins located at.
[02:24] <m`kay> hi guys. is there an error in the updates? for the new kernel in dapper will not give new kernel-headers on vmware for the new kernel?!
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> Except when your flash sound doesn't work con-man!
[02:24] <con-man> lol
[02:24] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux i todl you where its located
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> gaahhhhh what a pain in the patootie
[02:24] <GuerrillaWon> hah
[02:24] <twelvefour> there isn't anything to look up
[02:25] <twelvefour> do about:plugins to see if its registereing
[02:25] <twelvefour> but its not there so it shouldn't be visible
[02:26] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Okay I am looking for libflashplayer.so now
[02:26] <MoRpHeUz> hey, any clue about running flumotion on edgy ?
[02:27] <MoRpHeUz> I can't use admin...when it tries to connect it freezes the manager..
[02:29] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: I found in the home/powerwcrulez/.mozilla/plugins
[02:29] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux oh it installed it for your user
[02:29] <twelvefour> delte that
[02:30] <twelvefour> there are two flash files in there infact
[02:30] <twelvefour> one is a .xpm
[02:30] <twelvefour> delete both
[02:30] <twelvefour> then its gone
[02:30] <daniel007> I booted my machine this morning (ubuntu 6.10), and for some unknown reason there's a constant loud beep throught out the entire session (starts at the login window, stops when the system is shutting down).  I can mute the pcm channel or the master channel as a work around.  How do I get rid of this?
[02:30] <twelvefour> you can try installing from repo to see what happens
[02:30] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: I am only one on my lappy, as system admin
[02:30] <garfunkle> Hi all, i've just installed linux last night and told i can come here for help? (i've got most things sorted, but i can't get my second hardrive to show)
[02:30] <twelvefour> daniel007 do you have a mic maybe attached to your sound card?
[02:31] <twelvefour> garfunkle sure just ask
[02:31] <twelvefour> welcome
[02:31] <DirkGently> hi all
[02:31] <daniel007> twelvefour:  I do, but it's turned off.  Haven't used it in months
[02:31] <DirkGently> back again with speedtouch usb probs
[02:31] <GreyGhost> DirkGently ,hello
[02:31] <DirkGently> hi
[02:32] <GreyGhost> !mount | garfunkle
[02:32] <ubotu> garfunkle: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:32] <twelvefour> daniel007 try unplugging it?
[02:32] <GuerrillaWon> Can anyone please try to help me restore sound in flash for firefox32 on my ubuntu 64 bit? I just lost it one day, so I know it works.
[02:32] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: what's xpm?
[02:32] <DirkGently> i am trying to get a thompson speedtouch 330 modem to work with ubuntu
[02:32] <edward_> how can i get my mic working ?
[02:32] <twelvefour> twelvefour mozilla specific file ... if its not in there don't worry about ... infact thats probably why your browser is crashing
[02:33] <twelvefour> if you were to extract the gzip you would see the .so and .xpm
[02:33] <twelvefour> both need to be in that dir
[02:33] <DirkGently> i've been trying to work thru the sites Ive been pointed to...but am getting nowhere
[02:33] <ikonia> DirkGently: do you know if its supported ?
[02:33] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: which filename of the xpm?
[02:33] <DirkGently> it appears to be
[02:33] <twelvefour> PwcrLinux i don't remembver, extract the gzip and see for your self
[02:33] <daniel007> twelvefour:  ok, I've removed the plug.  I still got the constant beep
[02:33] <garfunkle> I don't really understant the help that people gave me, sorry but i am rather new to linux
[02:34] <DirkGently> the isp supplied the modem...they claim to support linux
[02:34] <GuerrillaWon> Hmm actually does anyone know what Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Means?
[02:34] <DirkGently> the cd comes with windows and mac drivers
[02:34] <frogzoo> GuerrillaWon: means it's already in cache
[02:34] <GuerrillaWon> ahh man I'm an idiot.
[02:34] <ikonia> DirkGently: thats not quite what I asked. You ned to check if that physical bit of kit is supported under Linux. An ISP supporting Linux connections is different to giving out supported hardware
[02:34] <GuerrillaWon> I just got it, 0 bytes
[02:34] <HymnToLife> DirkGently, I know webpages about installing that modem but they're all in French
[02:35] <GuerrillaWon> I thought it was like location or something :P
[02:35] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: I already deleted it from the desktop screen.. I will redownload again then will look into the tar.gz file
[02:35] <GuerrillaWon> Thanks frog.
[02:35] <DirkGently> i do have a translator prog but it wont get it accurate lol
[02:35] <GreyGhost> DirkGently ,that USB right?
[02:35] <DirkGently> yes usb
[02:35] <ikonia> DirkGently: forget everything else, first thing is to check if that hardware is supported
[02:35] <DirkGently> how do i do that?
[02:35] <HymnToLife> DirkGently, you could always try : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/modem_adsl_speedtouch_330_speedtouch_ng
[02:35] <GreyGhost> DirkGently ,job made easy for u then... ;) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128875
[02:35] <ikonia> google for it, check linuxcompatible.com
[02:36] <HymnToLife> ikonia, it is
[02:36] <ikonia> HymnToLife: you sure of that ?
[02:36] <HymnToLife> I have a friend who has one
[02:36] <ikonia> fair enough
[02:36] <shafire> !wireless
[02:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:38] <pbureau> I had a cable modcem that wasnt "compatible to linux" I simply used a router box between the modem and pc and the router did not care what OS I was running and the Modem was onkidorey happy to talk to the router pppoe protocols
[02:38] <DirkGently> ty...another place u have to join to view
[02:38] <sharperguy> how do i write my swap partition (/dev/hdb3) into /etc/fstab, because it dosnt get automounted anymore
[02:38] <ikonia> sharperguy: you don't mount swap
[02:38] <ardchoille> sharperguy: It isn't supposed to be mounted
[02:38] <sharperguy> well activate or whatever you call it
[02:38] <sharperguy> i have to use swapon anyway
[02:39] <ikonia> sharperguy: what happened to the entry in fstab?
[02:39] <daniel007> twelvefour:  should I reinstall alsa?
[02:39] <sharperguy> I have no idea, I'm only guessing it's wrong since i have to use swapon to get swap
[02:39] <ikonia> sharperguy: show me the line
[02:39] <sharperguy> and since i upgraded to edgy, fstab is unreadable
[02:39] <HymnToLife> sharperguy, pastebin your fstab
[02:39] <ikonia> ahhhhhhhh edgy upgrade
[02:40] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Okay I got 4 files inside of the FP 9 folder..  flashplayer.xpt, flashplayer-installer, libflashplayer.so and readme.txt
[02:40] <HAL9003> in what file belongs "APT::Cache-Limit"? to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf?
[02:40] <sharperguy> UUID=647de069-4b29-45c3-a9d1-251bb0c956d2 none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:40] <GuerrillaWon> Can someone try to help me restore flash sound for firefox32 on ubuntu 64. I promise I've tried everything and am not just being lazy. Myabe send me in the right direction?
[02:41] <ikonia> sharperguy: do a "blkid"
[02:41] <ikonia> see what the uuid is of the swap partition
[02:41] <shafire> how can i speed up the ubuntu-server installation? its so slow... it needs 15min to say that i have no inet connection...
[02:41] <ikonia> shafire: thats the timeout probably
[02:41] <sharperguy> going to pastebin
[02:41] <shafire> ikonia: how can i speed up
[02:41] <shafire> and the hardware detection is slow too
[02:41] <okay> hi
[02:42] <IdleOne> shafire: it could be real fast and not detect anything or it could be slow and take it's time and make sure that it detects everything
[02:42] <lubos> hello. please how you install g++ on ubuntu edgy?
[02:42] <ikonia> shafire: get a faster machine ? get an internet connection /
[02:42] <ikonia> lubos: apt-get install g++
[02:42] <shafire> faster machine?
[02:42] <shafire> 2.8ghz is slow?
[02:42] <shafire> i have only wlan
[02:42] <shafire> ...
[02:43] <ikonia> shafire: why are you installing server then ?
[02:43] <ikonia> that sounds like a laptop
[02:43] <joaospinto> hello can anyone help me installing ubuntu through windows?
[02:43] <shafire> because it should be my home server
[02:43] <thug> how do i get the subtitle font bigger in mplayer ?
[02:43] <ikonia> joaospinto: no
[02:43] <IdleOne> lubos: sudo aptitude install build-essential will install the tools you need to compile
[02:43] <joaospinto> instlux does that but i am having problem doing that!
[02:43] <lubos> thx but is there other way? i just trying linux in wmware and i have no internet connection there
[02:43] <ikonia> shafire: well, its only 15 minutes you have to live with once at install time
[02:43] <schizoschaf> hi. ich versuche gerade nen gpg key fr launchpad zu erstellen. Ich weiss aber nicht was die key-id ist fr --send-key
[02:43] <sharperguy> ikonia, it tells me the UUID of all the partitions exept swap :S
[02:43] <shafire> ikonia: and hardware detection 15min. too
[02:44] <mc44> !de | schizoschaf
[02:44] <ikonia> joaospinto: its a crappy experimental product - don't use it
[02:44] <ubotu> schizoschaf: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:44] <theDeus> can i start an apllication on a special desktop in beryl?
[02:44] <pbureau> !de | schizoschaf,
[02:44] <ubotu> schizoschaf,: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:44] <joaospinto> ij
[02:44] <joaospinto> ok
[02:44] <joaospinto> lol
[02:44] <schizoschaf> argh always the same
[02:44] <ikonia> shafire: but you only have to do that once at install time
[02:44] <shafire> ikonia: yes
[02:44] <arnducky> #ubuntu.de
[02:44] <shafire> but debian is faster
[02:44] <ikonia> sharperguy: check out fdisk and make sure your swap partition is ok
[02:44] <joaospinto> oh
[02:44] <joaospinto> i have a kubuntu cd
[02:44] <joaospinto> but i want to install ubuntu
[02:44] <joaospinto> are they realy realy diferent?
[02:44] <ikonia> shafire: ubuntu isn't debian
[02:44] <sharperguy> ikonia, you dont mean fsck?
[02:45] <ikonia> sharperguy: no - fdisk
[02:45] <ikonia> joaospinto: download the ubuntu cd
[02:45] <schizoschaf> i'm creating a gpg key for launchpad. i dont know what to use for  'key-id' in 'gpg --send-key key-id'
[02:45] <theDeus> joaospinto then install kubuntu and uninstall kde :)
[02:45] <Jeruvy> "sorry, cannot display contents of location 'windows network:machine'"  What does this error mean?
[02:45] <theDeus> wei jemand wie man ein programm auf einem bestimmten beryl desktop starten lassen kann?
[02:45] <ikonia> Jeruvy: it can't show the conects of the remove windows machine
[02:45] <chopchop_> /wc
[02:45] <ikonia> !de > thedeus
[02:46] <Jeruvy> ikonia: I can read, I don't understand
[02:46] <sharperguy> ikonia, what do i do with it?
[02:46] <theDeus> can i start an application on a special desktop in beryl?
[02:46] <joaospinto> theDeus
[02:46] <ikonia> sharperguy: run it on your harddisk and check the swap partition is set out fine
[02:46] <joaospinto> can i uninstall kde and then install facebox
[02:46] <Jeruvy> ikonia: why can't it display....it displays the others?
[02:46] <joaospinto> ups
[02:46] <joaospinto> fluxbox
[02:46] <joaospinto> lol
[02:47] <joaospinto> will it work just as ubuntu with fluxbox??
[02:47] <ikonia> Jeruvy: check the logs - if it can see the others then there must be something different with that box
[02:47] <Zaggynl> Hi, I have gdm and fluxbox installed, which is nice and fast, but I can't get startup items to work
[02:47] <Zaggynl> I've edited ~/.fluxbox/startup and added 'iceweasel &' before exec fluxbox, but it doesn't start at all
[02:47] <Jeruvy> ikonia: ok so you don't know.  thanks.
[02:47] <sharperguy> ikonia, i dont really know what you mean#
[02:47] <theDeus> wes joaospinto in works
[02:47] <ikonia> Jeruvy: of course I don't know - you've given me no info
[02:47] <TexasTaz> Good Morning everyone
[02:48] <ikonia> sharperguy: run fdsk on your hard disk and check there is a valid swap partition
[02:48] <Jeruvy> ikonia: I asked what the 'error' means.........
[02:48] <sharperguy> ikonia, running fdisk /dev/hdb, dosnt really give anything useful
[02:48] <lubos> is there other way :( ? i just trying linux in wmware and i have no internet connection there.
[02:48] <chevdor> hello folks, new ubuntu user, i just installed it. I have created user. What is the default root password ?
[02:48] <Cappy> Hello there TexasTaz
[02:48] <ikonia> Jeruvy: and I told you what it means - if you want to know why you have to check the logs and share that info
[02:48] <joaospinto> thedeus will i be able to uninstall kde?
[02:48] <art_> hello - i have problem whit wine - i run :
[02:48] <art_> sudo wine /home/art/Desktop/Ro/BloodyRO.exe
[02:48] <art_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:48] <art_> err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems
[02:48] <art_> err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL!
[02:48] <art_> err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 556 bytes in thread 0009 eip 7b84085f esp 00230dd4 stack 0x231000-0x340000
[02:48] <TexasTaz> What;s shakin Cappy How are ya tiday?
[02:48] <ikonia> chevdor: http://www.ubunut.com read up on how ubuntu users work
[02:48] <joaospinto> and how will i be able to install a file manager and so on if i will only have fluxbox with nothing more??
[02:48] <ikonia> art_: please use the pastebin
[02:49] <theDeus> lol i dont know joaospinto :D
[02:49] <andrynux> ciao
[02:49] <sharperguy> !root | chevdor
[02:49] <ubotu> chevdor: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:49] <Cappy> TexasTaz: Not wanting to be up so early =P
[02:49] <theDeus> joaospinto download ubuntu cd
[02:49] <Toma-> Im trying to start a Xvnc server with a custom geometry, but cant use vncconnect on the same box to test
[02:49] <ikonia> sharperguy: fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[02:49] <GreyGhost> andrynux ,hello
[02:49] <MoRpHeUz> no way to run flumotion on ubuntu =(
[02:49] <TexasTaz> lol Cappy
[02:49] <andrynux> hallo
[02:49] <sharperguy> ikonia, o ok cheers
[02:49] <TexasTaz> I have to get up this early everyday
[02:50] <TexasTaz> I have to I work for a large hosting company
[02:50] <sharperguy> ikonia, ok yea it says its fine, and besides, "swapon /dev/hdb3" works fine
[02:50] <pbureau> TexasTaz,  what you cvall 8am early... I feed my horses (I live in texas) every morning at 5am
[02:50] <TexasTaz> And I have to be there real early
[02:50] <ikonia> ok - thats good, just checking the basics
[02:50] <andrynux> help
[02:50] <chevdor> ubotu: thx i know sudo, but i want to su, I'll read the link ikonia suggests
[02:50] <TexasTaz> Nope I am usually up at 4am
[02:50] <pbureau> TexasTaz,  Ah ok
[02:50] <mackinac> !bot
[02:50] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell chevdor about root | chevdor, see the private message from ubotu.
[02:51] <Cappy> TexasTaz: I fell asleep early last night .. threaten my mind to have to study for a test and I'll just .. rest .. you know .. for a little bit
[02:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:51] <sharperguy> chevdor, set root password with "sudo passwd"
[02:51] <TexasTaz> lol yup been there got the book
[02:51] <sharperguy> chevdor, although its not reccomended
[02:51] <ikonia> sharperguy: I've not got an edgy box on hand, but I'm surprised that blkid doesn't show swap
[02:51] <chevdor> sharperguy not recommended to set the root password ?
[02:52] <ikonia> chevdor: not in the ubuntu methods
[02:52] <PwcrLinux> twelvefour: Okay I open the hidden dir and found xpt in there.. should I delete both file?
[02:52] <Cappy> TexasTaz: I'm on the east coast but I've been up for a while now lol
[02:52] <agliv5> Greetings all :) I'm trying to fix kqemu and was following this guide: "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308720&highlight=kqemu+edgy" I did everything as it states and I'm still getting the following error : "FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format" The strange thing is that I have completley removed all linux-header version 2.6.17 packages... how do I fix the linx to the 2.6.7.10 th
[02:52] <agliv5> at is installed?
[02:52] <chevdor> sharperguy It means anyone accessing my user account can sudo passwd and change my root password ?????
[02:52] <TexasTaz> lol I am in Houston so I have been up for about 4 hours
[02:52] <ikonia> chevdor: you don't tell people your password
[02:52] <agliv5> sorry about the long description, but it's complicated...
[02:52] <joyoftech> how do i single boot ubuntu on a macbook?
[02:52] <sharperguy> chevdor, all sudo commands ask for your user password
[02:53] <frogzoo> chevdor: that's what it means - don't share your user password
[02:53] <Eneath> hi
[02:53] <sharperguy> chevdor, probably easier if you just read the link to find out about it
[02:53] <TexasTaz> Is there only one cd for the server installation
[02:53] <ikonia> sharperguy: I'm not %100 certain on this, but I think you can remove the blkid's in edgy and replace it with hdb3
[02:53] <ikonia> TexasTaz: yes
[02:53] <chevdor> sharperguy I'll read the link, just surprised with this new rule ^^
[02:54] <Morrowyn> morning
[02:54] <ikonia> chevdor: not new
[02:54] <pbureau> or simply change the root password account password and sudo su will ask for root password therefore blocking anyone knowing your usera ccount from using the root account
[02:54] <TexasTaz> I am trying to install cacti and stuff but I can't get the desktop to let me do that
[02:54] <sharperguy> chevdor, I think its always been the default with ubuntu to use sudo
[02:54] <ikonia> TexasTaz: whats the error ?
[02:54] <TexasTaz> LEt me try and recreate it hold on a sec
[02:55] <agliv5> Apparently, a system link is broken because it's trying to install to a dir that no longer exists... can someone please help me fix it?
[02:55] <snoopy> hello
[02:55] <sharperguy> ikonia, yea, you can do it with other partitions. I was just wondering what the fstab line should look like for swap
[02:55] <pbureau> swap sw 0 0
[02:55] <Cappy> can X run on a linux server that doesn't have a video card installed, say if you want to VNC in or whatever
[02:55] <ikonia> sharperguy: /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:55] <sharperguy> ikonia, cheers
[02:56] <PwcrLinux> aha
[02:56] <ikonia> Cappy: you can't run X but you can have the x libs installed
[02:56] <chevdor> Thank you guy, I don't say it is a bad way, I am just discovering ^^, although, for some reasons I think it is better to have a root password, i keep reading the ubuntu wiki ^^
[02:56] <dusty_> hey guys, for some reason my firefox randomly crashes and its pretty frequent.
[02:56] <dusty_>           running it on ubuntu linux any ideas why? or how i can find out why - possibly
[02:56] <dusty_>           one of the plugins not sure?
[02:56] <dusty_>           one of the plugins not sure?
[02:57] <dusty_> hey guys, for some reason my firefox randomly crashes and its pretty frequent.
[02:57] <ikonia> dusty_: stop !
[02:57] <dusty_> sorry my irc client messedup
[02:57] <Cappy> ikonia: crap, I thought for sure I could =P
[02:57] <GuerrillaWon> Dusty_ are you running the same program when this happens? And what do you mean by crash? What exactly happens?
[02:57] <TexasTaz> nm I see what happened DUH!
[02:57] <ikonia> Cappy: no as there will be no 0:0 display (for example) however you can have the libs installed and run that remotly
[02:58] <ikonia> Cappy: if you see what I mean
[02:58] <dusty_> GuerrillaWon it just goes away like disappears, i run xchat and kconsole at the same time
[02:58] <TexasTaz> google.com
[02:58] <TexasTaz> shhot lol
[02:58] <TexasTaz> Wrong kb
[02:58] <Cappy> ikonia: I think so, thanks, I'll google for more
[02:58] <GuerrillaWon> The sreen goes black forcing you to reboot?
[02:58] <ikonia> Cappy: cool, let me know if you want more detail or explination
[02:58] <dusty_> no firefox closes
[02:59] <ikonia> Cappy: keep in mind that vnc isn't X
[02:59] <ikonia> its a remote protocol - not a desktop/x-client
[03:00] <TexasTaz> What causes this -> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:01] <ikonia> TexasTaz: your not root or synaptic is already running
[03:01] <TexasTaz> Yeah it was thanks
[03:01] <TexasTaz> I am stu\ill getting usede to ubuntu
[03:01] <TexasTaz> ooops
[03:01] <TexasTaz> still getting used to it
[03:02] <art_> http://wklej.org/id/fb1661ae44 - what im doing wrong?
[03:03] <ikonia> art_: 1.) thats wine 2.) its complaining that your X server does not have GL enabled/working
[03:03] <seravitae> how can i make my own keyboard shortcuts? not thru preferences-->keyboard shortcuts... i wanna launch a script i made.
[03:03] <GreyGhost> art_ , run "glxinfo | grep renderer "
[03:03] <Morrowyn> art, you prolly dont have opengl running on your X
[03:04] <soundray> !xbindkeys | seravitae
[03:04] <ikonia> seravitae: so launch the script
[03:04] <ubotu> seravitae: xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[03:04] <Morrowyn> either load "glx" in your xorg.conf is commented out or your vidcard doesnt support it
[03:04] <seravitae> sweet, ta.
[03:04] <art_> let me see
[03:04] <drkm> I've got a problem, my system updater came up yesterday and told me there was updates available.. as usual I updated and when I turned my system on this morning, there was a problem with my nvidia drivers and I had to the generic NV ones.. but then gnome loaded up ratherer than KDE, my default.. has anyone one else had any problems?
[03:04] <theDeus> can i start an application on a special desktop in beryl??
[03:05] <Morrowyn> you need to the newer linux modules restricted thingy
[03:05] <soundray> theDeus: ask in #ubuntu-effects please
[03:05] <ikonia> theDeus: whats a special desktop ?
[03:05] <Morrowyn> afaik
[03:05] <theDeus> soundray i will do
[03:05] <ikonia> theDeus: whats a special desktop ?
[03:05] <theDeus> ikonia that i can choos on what a desktop a program starts
[03:05] <ikonia> ahhh I see
[03:06] <Silverado> are there italian?
[03:06] <shafire> how can i install uubuntu minmal?
[03:06] <ikonia> theDeus: you may want to ask that like this "How can I tell an applicaiton to launch on a specific desktop under beryl"
[03:06] <theDeus> termin at desktop 1, firefox on 2 and so on
[03:06] <IdleOne> !it | Silverado
[03:06] <ubotu> Silverado: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:06] <ikonia> shafire: install the server edition
[03:06] <soundray> theDeus: in gnome/metacity, you can achieve that with devilspie. Don't know if the same will work in beryl
[03:06] <Silverado> thank
[03:06] <theDeus> yes ikonia :) sorry for my bad english
[03:07] <ikonia> theDeus: thats no problem, I just think you'll get a better response if you ask that way
[03:07] <IdleOne> Silverado: prego
[03:08] <theDeus> ikonia thanks, i will ask in the other channel and later here again if a get no response
[03:08] <theDeus> my english is damn bad
[03:08] <xratex> hihi, how do i reconfigure the xserver?
[03:08] <frogzoo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:08] <seravitae> soundray: i installed xbindkeys but /usr/inlcude/X11/keysym.h and such doesnt exist so i can't determine the codes.
[03:09] <geokok> Hi. Can I copy files with cp to a non-existing folder (without using mkdir first)??
[03:09] <xratex> i tryed that frogzoo but when i put the password doesent work, maybe if i change it?
[03:09] <ikonia> theDeus: your english is fine, I'm just trying to help you get the best response
[03:10] <Silverado> Ciao a tutti e buon proseguimento
[03:10] <theDeus> ikonia you think that my english is fine? i don't think so:)
[03:10] <agliv5> modprobe kqemu is trying to insert into a dirrectory that no longer exists... can anyone help me fix this problem?
[03:10] <soundray> seravitae: try xbindkeys-config (extra package) for configuring. If you still get this error, you may need the build-essential package.
[03:10] <ikonia> its fine, I get your message
[03:10] <theDeus> but i dont know why it is so bad ^^
[03:11] <geokok> foutrelis hi. Can u help me with CLI?
[03:11] <drkm> I've got a problem, my system updater came up yesterday and told me there was updates available.. as usual I updated and when I turned my system on this morning, there was a problem with my nvidia drivers and I had to the generic NV ones.. but then gnome loaded up ratherer than KDE, my default.. has anyone one else had any problems?
[03:11] <IdleOne> theDeus: your english may not be perfect but you seem to speak it well enough to get other people to understand what it is you want :)
[03:11] <seravitae> soundray: it's cool, i guessed it and it works.
[03:11] <foutrelis> geokok: I 'd be happy to :)
[03:12] <foutrelis> geokok: If I can of course
[03:12] <pecisk> what I should enable in /etc/apache2/mods-aviable to get LDAP supported Auth
[03:12] <theDeus> IdleOne yes i know some english basics :)
[03:12] <Guardian> hi i'm running a dell inspiron 8600 laptop, when battery is empty it just shuts down ... what should i fix/install ?
[03:12] <geokok> thanks foutrelis. I want to cp /folderA/*.mp3 /media/usbdisk/folderB without using mkdir to create folderB first
[03:13] <soundray> Guardian: System-Preferences-Power Management
[03:13] <frogzoo> Guardian: that's correct behaviour, what's the problem?
[03:14] <IdleOne> Guardian: i am guessing here but I think you need to change the settings in power management under Sytem > Administrations somewhere :/
[03:14] <foutrelis> geokok: Why don't you want to use mkdir?
[03:14] <Guardian> frogzoo: brutal shutdown
[03:14] <geokok> foutrelis because the folders are way too many and I want to avoid one step if possible
[03:14] <Guardian> frogzoo: like, brutal power off
[03:14] <foutrelis> geokok: Oh.. I see :)
[03:14] <foutrelis> let me see something
[03:14] <theDeus> okay i will ask again, perhaps is now somebody here who know the answer :)
[03:14] <geokok> ok
[03:15] <theDeus> How can I tell an application to launch on a specific desktop under beryl?
[03:15] <soundray> theDeus: use devilspie
[03:15] <foutrelis> geokok: Try using the -r switch :)
[03:15] <frogzoo> Guardian: something's wrong then - the shutdown should run the shutdown scripts
[03:15] <TexasTaz> Okay got that part done
[03:15] <art_> http://wklej.org/id/9a87e2122a i have something like that when makeglxinfo | grep renderer
[03:15] <theDeus> should i try if it runs together with beryl? :)
[03:15] <Guardian> indeed something's wrong
[03:15] <Guardian> :(
[03:16] <Guardian> also, battery life is by far lower when running ubuntu compared to windows :(
[03:16] <geokok> foutrelis no luck with recursive
[03:17] <frogzoo> Guardian: you can vastly improve battery life with tweaking
[03:17] <soundray> Guardian: make sure you have laptop-mode-tools installed and configure /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[03:17] <geo-> like what?
[03:17] <Guardian> soundray: thx
[03:17] <foutrelis> geokok: Does it copy all the files and you just want the mp3s?
[03:18] <geokok> foutrelis no I can get the mp3's only. I dont want to create manually the destination folder
[03:18] <TexasTaz> How do I change the default software sources?
[03:18] <geokok> foutrelis try to copy something to a non-existing folder and u ll see what I mean :)
[03:19] <TexasTaz> Wait I think i got it
[03:19] <TexasTaz> Hmmmm nope i guess not
[03:20] <IdleOne> !sources | TexasTaz
[03:20] <ubotu> TexasTaz: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:20] <foutrelis> geokok: No such file or directory :)
[03:20] <IdleOne> TexasTaz: dont use non-ubuntu sources unless you know what you are doing
[03:21] <flag> Does anybody have experience with scanning with Samsung SCX-4521F in Ubuntu 6.10?
[03:21] <geokok> foutrelis exactly. Cant I use the mkdir somehow inside the cp with quote marks or echo?
[03:21] <TexasTaz> I know IdleOne I got myself in to trouble with that already lol
[03:21] <IdleOne> !scanning | flag
[03:21] <ubotu> flag: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[03:24] <soundray> geokok: it's best to write a two-line script to solve your problem.
[03:24] <art_> how can i get plugins for avi
[03:24] <art_> ?
[03:24] <soundray> !restricted | art_
[03:24] <ubotu> art_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:25] <arnadelo_> art searh automatix
[03:25] <flag> I know I have to use xsane. At the moment the scanner is not suported by sane, but Samsung delivers an driver. But the installation end with the message: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/mfpportctrl/mfpport.ko':
[03:25] <flag> No such file or directory
[03:25] <LjL> !automatix
[03:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:25] <geokok> soundray any suggestions for the script? :)
[03:26] <knovak> Anyone have experience with VMWare?
[03:26] <kritzstapf> how to remove a package including all settings?
[03:26] <kritzstapf> my kiba-dock is messed up and id like to reset it
[03:27] <adaptr> geokok: cp has optios to create destination directories when needed
[03:27] <LjL> kritzstapf: sudo apt-get --purge remove package
[03:27] <LjL> kritzstapf: this won't remove the settings that are found in your *home* dir, however. those always have to be removed manually.
[03:28] <Peres_> hello ubuntu
[03:28] <geokok> adaptr: any clues how?
[03:28] <soundray> geokok: echo '#!/bin/bash' >/tmp/tmpscript ; echo 'mkdir $1 ; cp /source/location/*.mp3 $1/' >>/tmp/tmpscript ; chmod 755 /tmp/tmpscript ; sudo mv /tmp/tmpscript /usr/local/bin/mkdcopy
[03:28] <adaptr> geokok: cp -a will recreate the directory structure of the source
[03:28] <kritzstapf> LjL, hm, kiba-dock uses those gconf-settings, but i dont know how to delete items of the tree
[03:28] <Peres_> after update, my X wont start --> NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[03:29] <Yeti_69> !fr
[03:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:29] <foutrelis> soundray: Interesting script :)
[03:29] <LjL> kritzstapf: i don't know that, either
[03:29] <geokok> adaptr it doesnt work
[03:29] <adaptr> geokok: of course it does, man cp
[03:30] <Peres_> NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module problem help needed
[03:30] <agliv5> modprobe kqemu is trying to insert into a dirrectory that no longer exists... can anyone help me fix this problem?
[03:30] <xratex> "XSERVER-XORG" is broken or it's not full installed, how do i fix that???
[03:30] <soundray> foutrelis: I haven't tested it...
[03:30] <geokok> adaptr u say it recreates the structure of the source? but will that do what I need?
[03:30] <jbl> join #ubuntu-java
[03:30] <kritzstapf> LjL, gconf-editor has no button for deleting folders :/
[03:30] <LjL> Peres_: do you have Edgy and have some non-official nvidia drivers installed?
[03:31] <Peres_> LjL: yeah, i have
[03:31] <adaptr> geokok: not if the script he swhowed is what you want, no
[03:31] <CrakeHunter> hello, i am trying to mount and install a cd with cedega - it gives me an erroer message: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only; wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda, missing codepage or other error ; what can i do
[03:31] <LjL> Peres_: well, you noticed there was a kernel update two days ago - new kernel version = your unofficial drivers stop working
[03:31] <LjL> Peres_: get newer versions. where did you get the drivers from originally?
[03:31] <Peres_> LjL: yeah, i rebooted this morning..
[03:32] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: Are you trying to install to a ntfs drive?
[03:32] <Peres_> LjL: but can i apt-get install the offcial drivers?
[03:32] <geokok> adaptr yes i think it is thanks
[03:32] <CrakeHunter> zarepath, no to LVM (ext3)
[03:32] <geokok> soundray thaks
[03:32] <Peres_> LjL, or do i have to delete the unoffical drivers?
[03:32] <CrakeHunter> btw it doesnt even mount! so i cannot install
[03:32] <LjL> Peres_: uh... now that you have unofficial ones (with a newer version number) installed... i guess you can, but it involves convincing APT about it
[03:32] <geokok> foutrelis I hope we see in ubuntu-gr at freenode
[03:32] <geokok> bye
[03:32] <soundray> geokok: I haven't tested it
[03:33] <LjL> Peres_: you need to delete the unofficial ones first. did they come in a package?
[03:33] <jbl> I'm trying to install the ee5 SDK on edgy. I'm getting the "insufficient disk partition space" message at the end of the installer. Any suggestions?
[03:33] <soundray> geokok: but I guess you can model a working script after my suggestion
[03:33] <geokok> soundray I ll let u know if it breaks something :P
[03:33] <antonio_> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound
[03:33] <xratex> "XSERVER-XORG" is broken or it's not full installed, how am i supposed to fix that???
[03:33] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: Then you will have to look into the security settins associated with LVM more than likely...are you trying to do is as sudo/root?
[03:33] <LjL> xratex: try  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg 
[03:33] <jbl> I'm using sudo
[03:33] <xratex> kk
[03:34] <naranha> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine where windows runs fine. however in the live cd running gnome it crashes when starting the installer or using the system for a few seconds (like firefox...)
[03:34] <antonio_> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound, running ubuntu 6.10
[03:34] <mqueiros> hello! I'm trying to get my email from Evolution 2.4 (in ubuntu 5.10) to Evolution 2.6 (in dapper drake). Is there anything I should be careful about, or simply copying .evolution will do it ?
[03:34] <CrakeHunter> zarepath, can you give me a more precise advice, please? i am kind of new
[03:34] <soundray> !sound | antonio_
[03:34] <ubotu> antonio_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:34] <TexasTaz> Hey Does Ubuntu work on Broadcom Wireless Cards or do i have to use ndiswraaper?
[03:34] <zarephath> anyone know of a more recent guide on installing and using e17?
[03:34] <TexasTaz> wrapper
[03:34] <daviey> TexasTaz, try it and see
[03:34] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: Sorry I don't have any to give...
[03:35] <TexasTaz> Ewwww man I hate that but I will lol
[03:35] <antonio_> let me try that, had it working on 6.06
[03:35] <LjL> !broadcom > TexasTaz    (TexasTaz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:35] <CrakeHunter> ok, thx nonetheless, so you think the problem might be the lvm?
[03:35] <TexasTaz> Thanks LjL preciate that
[03:36] <LjL> TexasTaz: i'd say ndiswrapper, at a quick look
[03:36] <vlatko>  I just installed linux a few months ago...I didn't notice I couldn't play online radio stations.
[03:36] <zarephath> CrakeHunter: I am just guessing that there may be security permissions controlled by a file, or something that you have to be in to allow you to do it..you might check the cedega site too and search for the problem
[03:36] <vlatko> anyone could help me with that? :(
[03:36] <tony759> hello everyone
[03:36] <xratex> LjL , segmentation fail (core dumped)
[03:36] <derrick1985> hi, if there is anyone here that could help me configure hula pm me please.
[03:37] <daviey> derrick1985, i gave up
[03:37] <daviey> derrick1985, the packages seem borked
[03:37] <CrakeHunter> ok, thanks
[03:37] <LjL> xratex, something is seriously wrong. please provide me with some background... have you just installed ubuntu? or have you had it for some time? if the latter, did anything specific trigger this problem?
[03:37] <TexasTaz> vlatko well you can you just have to get the right stream file pls will usually play on mplayer I think
[03:37] <vlatko> hey guys, what can I do to listen to online radio....I can't do that....
[03:37] <zarephath> antonio: You might run alsamixer first and check to see that the external amplifier is on in the mixer...mine defaults to this..and I get no sound...hit M to turn it off and you will have sound
[03:37] <xratex> LjL ill pm u
[03:37] <derrick1985> that's never good. I keep getting auth failures.
[03:37] <vlatko> how do I do that? stream?
[03:38] <higiraven> hello does anyone know how can i resize a video?
[03:38] <LjL> xratex: join #ubuntu-classroom instead, so if other people are interested and/or can help, they will
[03:38] <TexasTaz> Hold on let me find the tutorial for you
[03:38] <ardchoille> higiraven: You mean in mplayer?
[03:38] <vlatko> I will appreciate that so much texastaz thank you.
[03:38] <higiraven> ardchoille: well ive got a video but I want it to be smaller in size
[03:39] <ardchoille> higiraven: Ok, I thought you mean the width/height of the video.
[03:39] <TexasTaz> vlatko -> LINUX USERS  download and install both MPlayer (MPlayer-0.90) and the Mozilla MPlayer plugin (MPlayerplug-in-0.95). If you still have difficulties listening, download and install the additional codecs that are located on the MPlayer home page.
[03:39] <higiraven> yeah that too
[03:39] <higiraven> is is possible ardchoille?
[03:39] <ardchoille> higiraven: You are talking about filesize?
[03:39] <higiraven> nono height and width
[03:39] <higiraven> sorry
[03:40] <daviey> derrick1985, are you getting my pm's?
[03:40] <soundray> I'm trying to compile a program and getting "error: FL/Fl.h: No such file or directory', even though the file is present and I've passed the location via cmake. How can I troubleshoot this?
[03:40] <vlatko> thanks a lot Texastaz, I'll see what I can do =)
[03:40] <TexasTaz> vlatko -> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> this may be redundant to everyone here but I have not watched the channel.  Is the new kernel up date ok now?
[03:40] <ardchoille> higiraven: In mplayer, hold on. lemme fire it up
[03:40] <foutrelis> [BTF] Chm0d: Just updated. Works ok
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok
[03:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> tx
[03:40] <foutrelis> np
[03:41] <ardchoille> higiraven: In mplayer, if you change the video driver to xv, you can resize the video on the fly
[03:41] <TexasTaz> You would have to find the link to the stream file and play if through the file menu though I thinkl them book mark it
[03:41] <ooglaboogla> how do i install ubuntu using text mode
[03:41] <higiraven> ardchoille:  how?
[03:41] <TexasTaz> them = then
[03:41] <foutrelis> ooglaboogla: You ll need the alternate CD
[03:41] <IdleOne> ooglaboogla: download the Alternat CD from www.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <ardchoille> higiraven: How what? How to choose a different video driver?
[03:41] <higiraven> yes
[03:42] <ooglaboogla> foutrelis: i have DVD that came with Linux Format magazine, isn't there a boot option to make it go to text install
[03:42] <ooglaboogla> i can input options just don't know what to type
[03:42] <TexasTaz> I am going offline for little bit guys, Installing Ubuntu Server on this and Ubuntu desktop on my laptop
[03:42] <ardchoille> higiraven: open mplayer, right click the main window, choose Preferences, go to the video tab and select xv
[03:42] <ardchoille> higiraven: Then click "OK'
[03:43] <derrick1985> so, no one has an actual working hula server?
[03:43] <ardchoille> higiraven: Restart the video and the video should resize as you resize the mplayer window
[03:43] <IdleOne> whats the command to install a .deb I have downloaded to my Desktop?
[03:43] <derrick1985> dpkg -i
[03:43] <IdleOne> ty
[03:43] <jrib> IdleOne: or just double click on it
[03:43] <ardchoille> IdleOne: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:43] <IdleOne> ty ty :)
[03:43] <derrick1985> yeah, don't forget the sudo part. :)
[03:44] <higiraven> ardchoille:  and the size saves? i mean, the video will be at that resolution for ever?
[03:44] <ardchoille> higiraven: No, it will fall back to the default for that video, but you can just resize it again. The deault size for the video is in the video itself, I don't think you can change that.
[03:45] <higiraven> ah, thats what im trying to do
[03:45] <higiraven> i have to re-encode it i believe
[03:45] <ardchoille> higiraven: Ah, yeah, you'll have to reencode. Sorry, I totally misunderstood you.
[03:46] <IdleOne> is Virtualbox in the repos?
[03:46] <ardchoille> !virtualbox
[03:46] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[03:46] <ardchoille> IdleOne: ^^
[03:46] <IdleOne> ardchoille: yeah but the instruction on that site are a little confusing to me :/
[03:47] <ompaul> IdleOne, one would expect you to know how to check the repos at this stage
[03:47] <ompaul> }:->
[03:47] <IdleOne> ompaul: I do :P and I did but came up empty so I figured I would ask anyway :)
[03:48] <ardchoille> IdleOne: apt-cache search virtualbox returns nothing
[03:48] <IdleOne> ok so it seems I need to compile a kernel module but that frightens me a little
[03:48] <ikonia> IdleOne: what are you trying to install
[03:49] <IdleOne> virtualbox
[03:49] <jussi01> hei all, Im learning c++ through tutorials... Ive just written the "hello world" program, now i need to compile it. how do I do this in kdevelop?
[03:49] <IdleOne> ikonia: just read about it and wanted to try it out
[03:49] <CrakeHunter> is anyone in here running CEDEGA on ubuntu? cause i cant mount my DVD-rom with cedega. it says: block device /dev/hda is write protected, mounting read-only. what should i do?
[03:49] <jussi01> Idle one, is there a reason your not using the .deb?
[03:50] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: a dvd rom IS read only
[03:50] <LjL> jussi01, actually even the .deb itself goes out to compile the kernel module ;)
[03:50] <IdleOne> jussi01: I downloaded the .deb but I got a failed to compile module error
[03:50] <LjL> ... and fails, if you don't have the right dependencies (which it doesn't list :P)
[03:50] <jussi01> oh ;) thanks...
[03:50] <ardchoille> LjL: Do you have ESP? lol
[03:50] <IdleOne> LjL: I d/l the depends as the virtualbox site said and installed using aptitude
[03:51] <arnducky> jussi01: what's wrong with compiling from the CLI (bash or dash) since gcc is already integrated?
[03:51] <jussi01> so anyone know how to compile in kdevelop?
[03:51] <LjL> ardchoille: i just have virtualbox installed :P
[03:51] <Eposhark> Hi, I custom compiled my kernel, and all went well, I even got the NVIDIA drivers backto work
[03:51] <ardchoille> hehe
[03:51] <LjL> IdleOne: pastebin the full output of apt
[03:51] <jussi01> oh, Im just learning, didnt know i could
[03:51] <Eposhark> However, my wireless internet is not working, what should I do?
[03:51] <arnducky> jussi01: make foo.c
[03:51] <IdleOne> LjL: gimme a sec
[03:51] <Eposhark> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 > I followed this thread
[03:52] <jussi01> arnducky: in terminal?
[03:52] <arnducky> yep
[03:53] <fla1> test
[03:53] <ikonia> worked
[03:53] <CrakeHunter> ikonia, the error is followed by: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda, missing codepage or other error
[03:53] <ardchoille> fla1: passed
[03:53] <CrakeHunter> i am using LVM
[03:53] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: why are you trying to use LVM on a dvd rom
[03:53] <IdleOne> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5228/
[03:53] <arnducky> lmao
[03:54] <CrakeHunter> no, well its like this: i try to mount a DVDrom with cedega. and it needs to be mounted on my harddisc (i guess - im new to linux) now it gives me this error
[03:54] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: do you have a dvd in the dvdrom drive ?
[03:54] <CrakeHunter> ;) of course, guildwars - nightfall
[03:55] <IdleOne> LjL: I need to get to work :( I hate sundays but I'll be back later tonight and if you could help me then or tomorrow I would appreciate it :)
[03:55] <Eposhark> No one a clue about my problem?
[03:55] <ikonia> CrakeHunter: read up on cedega, not sure why you're having this problems, but I never use cedega so i don't know
[03:55] <LjL> IdleOne: ok... anyway check if you have /var/log/vbox-install.log and if it says anything (though in some cases it does not say anything)
[03:56] <ikonia> Eposhark: what the problem
[03:56] <Eposhark> Hi, I custom compiled my kernel, and all went well, I even got the NVIDIA drivers backto work
[03:56] <Eposhark> However, my wireless internet is not working, what should I do?
[03:56] <ikonia> Eposhark: 1.) why did you build a custom kernel 2.) what options did you change in the custom kernel
[03:56] <rrohde> since ever I run feisty with beryl I get only a white cube without textures... what can I do to fix that?
[03:56] <Eposhark> I followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[03:57] <ikonia> Eposhark: thats not what I asked
[03:57] <CrakeHunter> k, thanks tho
[03:57] <Eposhark> Why? Because the guide said I would gain a performance boost, and because I wanted to learn how a kernel compile works
[03:57] <Eposhark> These are the changes I made: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1174954&postcount=507
[03:58] <ikonia> Eposhark: well, from my point of view your on your own. You shouldn't be messing with the kernel unless a.) you know what your doing b.) you have a real reason to do so
[03:58] <ikonia> I don't feel like walking through kernel debug with someone who's just done it for no reason (with respect)
[03:58] <Eposhark> Well, I got the same problem when I didn't touch a setting at all
[03:59] <aarohi> how do i edit the theme for applications that are running on GNOME but are KDE specific?
[03:59] <Eposhark> Some guide mentioned I had to re-install ndiswrapper, which I did, but to no avail
[03:59] <ikonia> Eposhark: I'd help you with an ubuntu stock kernel, but I'm not working through issue on your custom kernel
[03:59] <Eposhark> The settings for wireless network are not changed in my kernel ikonia, I loaded my existing .config file
[03:59] <ikonia> Eposhark: sorry, thats not how it works
[04:00] <tomsp> (yes, i read the faq) i have an acer aspire 5020 (not listed in the laptop compatibility lists) and while trying to install ubuntu 6.06 LTS, tnj
[04:00] <tomsp> the screen goes black after a while
[04:00] <tomsp> that is, about a minute after the "install ubuntu" screen
[04:00] <Eposhark> ikonia, I don't expect you to actually solve my problem, but I've tried what I could: I installed ndiswrapper, but that didn't work
[04:01] <Eposhark> You don't have an idea to what I could try?
[04:01] <tomsp> and before i can choose my language (which would be the next step according to the help site)
[04:01] <ikonia> Eposhark: your using a custom kernel - therefore things like ndiswrapper from the repo's may be incompatible
[04:01] <Eposhark> I installed it from source
[04:01] <ikonia> Eposhark: thats even more crazy as your breaking your whole repo dependency tree
[04:01] <Eposhark> As stated here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104539&highlight=compile+ndiswrapper+source
[04:01] <Tadej> hi
[04:02] <ikonia> Eposhark: sounds like you've made a mess of your box
[04:02] <Tadej> my xmms is crashing with this error
[04:02] <Tadej> Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x2def8)!
[04:02] <Tadej> any idea whats wrong?
[04:02] <Eposhark> I don't know ikonia, my old kernel works just fine :)
[04:02] <aarohi> how do i edit the theme for applications that are running on GNOME but are KDE specific? like amarok in ubuntu.... how do i edit the theme/style?
[04:02] <ikonia> Eposhark: you just said it didn't work in your old kernel
[04:02] <Eposhark> I did?
[04:03] <ikonia> yes - you said you had the same problem in your old kernel
[04:03] <guillermo> cartago
[04:03] <tomsp> (...er, did somebody read my question...?)
 Well, I got the same problem when I didn't touch a setting at all </quote>
[04:03] <Eposhark> i'm sorry ikonia, but that's not what I meant
[04:03] <Eposhark> Ah, I said that because I compiled the kernel first without touching a setting in it
[04:04] <ikonia> Eposhark: well either way, sound like you've got your box in a bit of a mess
[04:04] <Eposhark> And wireless wasn't working, so it couldn't have been a setting I broke
[04:04] <Eposhark> I didn't do much though... Compiled the 2.6.20 kernel, rebooted, fixed nvidia, installed ndiswrapper from source
[04:04] <mhiku> how to extract tbz files?
[04:04] <ikonia> thats enough
[04:04] <ikonia> mhiku: tar jxvf
[04:05] <ardchoille> Good night :)
[04:05] <agliv5> modprobe kqemu is trying to insert into a dirrectory that no longer exists... can anyone help me fix this problem?
[04:05] <ikonia> agliv5: make the dir ?
[04:05] <Tadej> is there any last.fm xmms plugin that works ok?
[04:07] <agliv5> ikonia, It's trying to install into a dir for the linux-headers that I have since replaced with a different version, so I want it to install to the dir where the installed version is...
[04:07] <Belkrem> whats the command for the termial to list your hardware
[04:07] <ikonia> agliv5: why have you swapped the header versions ?
[04:07] <agliv5> ikonia, it's a really long story
[04:07] <ikonia> Belkrem: tools like lspci
[04:07] <ikonia> agliv5: summerise
[04:08] <Eposhark> I'll look some more, thanks ikonia :-)
[04:08] <agliv5> ikonia, I had -10 and everthing was wonderfull, then I updated to -11 and all **** broke loose
[04:08] <wikignom> hello! i'm trying to install ubuntu but i am encountering a problem. apparently, this is the wrong place to go, where should i ask?
[04:08] <ikonia> agliv5: how did you update to -11
[04:08] <agliv5> ikonia, via synaptic
[04:08] <ikonia> ok - thats fine, but that shoujldn't change your kernel headers
[04:09] <Belkrem> lspci lists it but i need to know the location of the hardware
[04:09] <ikonia> agliv5: the headers should still be 2.6.x not 2.6.x-x
[04:09] <ikonia> Belkrem: what do you mean the location ?
[04:09] <agliv5> ikonia, so I did a complete remove of -11 and reinstalled -10, but apparently there are still some links pointing to -11 directories...
[04:09] <Eposhark> lspci -n Belkrem ?
[04:09] <ikonia> agliv5: can you please show me a line or two of the error
[04:09] <jbl> Anybody had any luck installing ee5 sdk on edgy?
[04:10] <Belkrem> like PCI:1:5:0
[04:10] <agliv5> ikonia, FATAL: Error inserting kqemu (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc/kqemu.ko): Invalid module format
[04:10] <Belkrem> the busid
[04:11] <ikonia> agliv5: thats nothing to do with headers
[04:11] <agliv5> ikonia, I was following following guide to try to fix the probelm http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308720&highlight=kqemu+edgy LjL recommended that to me yesterday....
[04:11] <ikonia> Belkrem: is this for the xorg configuration
[04:11] <Belkrem> yea
[04:11] <ikonia> agliv5: show me the output of uname -a
[04:12] <ikonia> Belkrem: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should detect that for you
[04:12] <mhiku> checking for tgetent in -lncurses... no checking for tgetent in -lcurses... no checking for tgetent in -ltermlib... no checking for tgetent in -ltermcap... no checking for tgetent in -lterminfo... no, i did install all of them specially ncurses, why is that? and what is workaround?
[04:12] <agliv5> ikonia, Linux Padawan-Schueler 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:12] <Belkrem> what ever happened to xorgconfig
[04:12] <ikonia> agliv5: look - your running .11
[04:12] <ikonia> ???
[04:13] <agliv5> ikonia, and how do I change back to -10?
[04:13] <ikonia> agliv5: you need to reboot and select the .10 option from grub - then remove .11
[04:13] <GreyGhost> jbl .ee is?
[04:13] <agliv5> ikonia, what if I already removed all .11 files from my system?
[04:14] <brann> hello. has someone experienced a poor sound quality while playing mp3 with ubuntu (whatever the mp3 player I use).... it's still audible but the quality is far better with windows .. what could i do?
[04:14] <ikonia> agliv5: you can't have as your running .11
[04:14] <agliv5> ikonia, haven't rebooted yet...
[04:14] <jbl> GreyGhost: java EE5
[04:14] <ikonia> agliv5: you can't be serious ????
[04:14] <ikonia> agliv5: this is basic stuff
[04:15] <GreyGhost> !java | jbl
[04:15] <ubotu> jbl: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:15] <LjL> agliv5, ikonia: actually what i said is that the *original* wiki page about KQemu was written by me and much shorter, while that forum thread is a big long and involved, and i can't quite say whether it's correct or not
[04:15] <ikonia> LjL: I don't have a problem with the wiki page
[04:15] <cow_2001> i had a bunch of packages on the updating app that were under "Distribution Updates" but they were grey
[04:15] <agliv5> ikonia, I apparently mistakenly thought that it would fix the problem to remove .11 completely so I searched for all the files I could find and deleted them as root...
[04:16] <ikonia> agliv5: use your head - how can you remove all the .11 stuff while your still running the .11 kernel  - you can't remove it while is in use
[04:16] <LjL> ikonia: i know but since agliv5 mentioned me while addressing you...
[04:16] <HymnToLife> ikonia, of course you can
[04:16] <HymnToLife> you van very well remove the kernel image since it's loaded in memory
[04:16] <ikonia> agliv5: when you try to use anything it will reference your running kernel - why in the world of anything would you expect anything to reference .10 while your using .11
[04:16] <agliv5> ikonia, I didn't realize that I was still running the .11 kernel; otherwise I wouldn't have...
[04:17] <jbl> ubotu: Thanks but it's not the jre thats the problem, but the Java EE5 sdk
[04:17] <ikonia> HymnToLife: you'd have to force it - apt - should error on that
[04:17] <ikonia> agliv5: how did you expect it to pickup the .10 kernel without rebooting ?
[04:17] <HymnToLife> ikonia, no, it will ask if you're sure
[04:18] <agliv5> ikonia, everything is and has been working just fine since then and I can use synaptic to reinstall the .11 headers... I didn't remove kernel files, just header files...
[04:18] <Anomal1> hey guys.
[04:18] <ikonia> HymnToLife: I've not got multiple kernels here to check, but I thought I was certain on that
[04:18] <ikonia> agliv5: for the last time - the headers are not an issue here
[04:18] <agliv5> agliv5, ok
[04:18] <Anomal1> i've just installed ubuntu, but i can't get it to boot: about 40% of the way in, I get an error: Bug: Soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[04:18] <Anomal1> anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:19] <ikonia> agliv5: reboot into your .10 kernel and try again
[04:19] <HymnToLife> ikonia, it will tell you you're doing something potentially harmful and you'll have to type "yes, do as I say !"
[04:19] <agliv5> agliv5, I don't think I removed any kernel files...
[04:19] <ikonia> agliv5: what does that matter ? (even though you just told me you did) reboot into the .10 kernel and remove .11
[04:19] <ikonia> HymnToLife: I'd have bet money against that - but I don't doubt you
[04:20] <agliv5> ikonia, I removed header files, not kernel files (checking synaptic to confirm)...
[04:20] <ikonia> agliv5: it doesn't matter !
[04:20] <ikonia> reboot into .10 and remove .11
[04:20] <jonw> any gamers around ? got wow running with a stock binary install of wine, from the wine website, works perfectly apart from when I change resolution it crashes, (800x600 is lame) ..... help ? ;)
[04:21] <ikonia> jonw: you'll do better in #wine or #wine-hq
[04:21] <jonw> ikonia: thanks ... I'll head over there :)
[04:22] <agliv5> ikonia, is it safe to reboot and what do I need to do?
[04:22] <cow_2001> edgy is acting on me
[04:22] <ikonia> agliv5: reboot into the .10 kernel
[04:22] <Anomal1> i've just installed ubuntu, but i can't get it to boot: about 40% of the way in, I get an error: Bug: Soft lockup detected on CPU#0
[04:22] <Anomal1> anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:23] <cow_2001> when i press the left key nothing reacts
[04:23] <agliv5> ikonia, how?
[04:23] <cow_2001> then i press the right key on something
[04:23] <cow_2001> it opens a menu
[04:23] <cow_2001> then the left key works
[04:23] <ikonia> agliv5: well - you reboot the box , then select .10 kernel from the grub menu as i've told you 2 times before
[04:23] <ikonia> Anomal1: you using core 2 ?
[04:23] <Anomal1> ikonia, what's that? :/
[04:23] <cow_2001> but once i press on it, it stops reacting again
[04:23] <ikonia> Anomal1: intel core2 chip
[04:24] <cow_2001> is it a known problem?
[04:24] <Anomal1> oh, yes
[04:24] <Ciaus> what is the syntax to install the header files.....
[04:24] <ikonia> Anomal1: what versiono of ubuntu
[04:24] <cow_2001> please, this is highly annoying
[04:24] <agliv5> ikonia, never used the grub boot menu before... sorry and thanks for your patience, will reboot now and get back to you
[04:24] <Anomal1> um, edgy i think
[04:24] <soundray> cow_2001: I don't think it is a known problem
[04:24] <ikonia> Anomal1: some of the core2 chipsets arn't supported yet, (that I'm aware of)
[04:25] <Anomal1> ikonia: well, I had xubuntu installed last week, and that worked fine :/
[04:25] <cow_2001> soundray, it's really really weird and now my father threats on buying XP
[04:25] <ikonia> Anomal1: really ? same version ?
[04:25] <Anomal1> ikonia: yes
[04:25] <ikonia> Anomal1: thats VERY strange
[04:25] <soundray> cow_2001: oh no! We have to prevent that! ;)
[04:25] <Anomal1> mmm :(
[04:25] <cow_2001> soundray, he doesn't threat on buying Vista because it would never run under our computer
[04:25] <cow_2001> soundray, ^_^
[04:27] <soundray> cow_2001: can you go to a terminal and run 'sudo cat /dev/input/mouse0'. When you move the mouse after that, you should see lots of unreadable characters.
[04:27] <soundray> cow_2001: now when you click the left mouse button, you should see something happening, probably the cursor wobbling backwards and forwards
[04:28] <Anomal1> ikonia: so, any ideas? :(
[04:29] <ikonia> Anomal1: well, that error is basiclly suggesting that there is a problem with your cpu, the most common is because its not supported so either you have a problem with you cpu - or your using a different version of ubuntu
[04:29] <tuskernini> Question: how do i use nc to talk between two computers using ip again?
[04:29] <Anomal1> ikonia: hum, ok.
[04:30] <xratex> how do i mount a hd in live cd?
[04:30] <cow_2001> soundray, what good will it do?
[04:30] <ikonia> xratex: same way as you do in an ubuntu install
[04:30] <xratex> ok, but may i know how?
[04:30] <jpjacobs> tuskernini, put one pc to listen on a port with nc -l and then netcat stuf from the other
[04:30] <jpjacobs> man nc helps
[04:30] <soundray> cow_2001: you will see whether your left mouse button generates events
[04:30] <knoppix> Hi
[04:31] <tuskernini> xratex, sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/your_choice
[04:31] <jpjacobs> soundray, xev also does stuff like that
[04:31] <soundray> jpjacobs: I'm more than happy for you to take over.
[04:31] <cow_2001> soundray, oh
[04:31] <tuskernini> jpjacobs, like this... nc -l ip
[04:31] <Littlegator> How do I make my NTFS disk viewable?
[04:32] <tuskernini> jpjacobs, and then from the other? nc -?
[04:32] <dyknicke> Hi all!
[04:32] <ikonia> Littlegator: mount it
[04:32] <karim_> is there a way to open a window without it having borders ? I want to run freevo but it's not in fullscreen, borders are still there
[04:32] <Littlegator> ikonia: I don't know how =.=
[04:32] <soundray> cow_2001: what?
[04:32] <ikonia> Littlegator: is it not listed under the places menu on your desktop ?
[04:32] <Xilon|Macbook> Faust-C: you h4xx0r j00
[04:32] <TexasTaz> Hey Guys I am back
[04:32] <Faust-C> lol
[04:32] <TexasTaz> I have a couple of questions
[04:33] <xratex> Tusk that mounted the live cd =/ not the hdd
[04:33] <Faust-C> TexasTaz: man plz tell me you dont use ubuntu
[04:33] <IanLiu> hello guys
[04:33] <TexasTaz> lol
[04:33] <Littlegator> ikonia: Is what not listed? The disk? I'm not seeing it...
[04:33] <BigMac> Hey I just went through and ndiswrapper'd my wifi card, and I installed a program to view all avalable networks. I click one and enter the wep key and it says I am connected but I have no ip? what can I do? how do I make this work so I can unplug this cat5 mess?
[04:33] <jpjacobs> tuskernini, i guess cat some.file |nc -p port ip, but i don't know, read the manpage
[04:33] <TexasTaz> Faust
[04:33] <TexasTaz> Of course
[04:33] <Xilon|Macbook> Is it possible to install Ubuntu without a gui?
[04:33] <dyknicke> I have a strange problem with Ubuntu.. May computer won't turn off when I choose to "shut down"
[04:33] <Faust-C> TexasTaz: -100 cool points
[04:33] <ikonia> Littlegator: if you look under places - on the gnome menu at the top of the screen, do not see it
[04:33] <TexasTaz> It is the only one that woiuld install on my sata mb
[04:33] <Faust-C> Xilon|Macbook: hell no
[04:33] <IanLiu> How do I install GCC in Ubuntu?
[04:33] <ikonia> Xilon|Macbook: yes, the server edition doesn't install X
[04:33] <Faust-C> TexasTaz: what ones did yo utry
[04:34] <ikonia> IanLiu: apt-get install gcc
[04:34] <Faust-C> IanLiu: apt-get -install gcc
[04:34] <Faust-C> lol
[04:34] <Xilon|Macbook> ikonia: is the server required?
[04:34] <Faust-C> they made a server edirion LOL
[04:34] <Littlegator> ikona: The menu is there, but there aren't any disks and it doesn't show up in the Computer menu
[04:34] <soundray> IanLiu: you probably want the build-essential package
[04:34] <gnomefreak> Xilon|Macbook: yes use alternate install cd
[04:34] <TexasTaz> Mandriva, FC 6, Ubuntu 6.10 and 6.10 is the only that would install
[04:34] <tuskernini> jpjacobs, thanks will try
[04:34] <ikonia> Xilon|Macbook: no
[04:34] <Faust-C> ubuntu has a virus out for it
[04:34] <IanLiu> but I did this last time, and the std libraries didn't come with it
[04:34] <xratex> anyone knows how to mount the hdd in live cd??
[04:34] <ikonia> Faust-C: no it doesn't
[04:34] <soundray> !b-e | IanLiu
[04:34] <Faust-C> TexasTaz: can i PM you
[04:34] <ubotu> IanLiu: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:34] <TexasTaz> Man quit that Faust
[04:34] <Xilon|Macbook> sweet
[04:34] <TexasTaz> Yes Faust
[04:35] <Faust-C> TexasTaz:kk SWEET
[04:35] <IanLiu> will apt-get install gcc install the std libraries?
[04:35] <cow_2001> soundray, nothing much
[04:35] <Littlegator> ikonia: I'm sorry I'm a noob, but this chat is here to help people =\
[04:35] <cow_2001> soundray, restarted
[04:35] <BigMac> Hey I just went through and ndiswrapper'd my wifi card, and I installed a program to view all avalable networks. I click one and enter the wep key and it says I am connected but I have no ip? what can I do? how do I make this work so I can unplug this cat5 mess?
[04:35] <demreath> IanLiu: apt-get install build-essential
[04:35] <soundray> IanLiu: do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:35] <cow_2001> soundray, now it won't work
[04:35] <ikonia> IanLiu: you need to consider this - if your trying to use gcc - you need to know what your doing
[04:35] <soundray> cow_2001: what won't work?
[04:35] <[yojimbo] > hi
[04:35] <TexasTaz> I did Faust
[04:36] <IanLiu> hmm
[04:36] <Faust-C> TexasTaz: ??ah your not registerd
[04:36] <Faust-C> sec
[04:36] <IanLiu> ok, I'll try it
[04:36] <IanLiu> =)
[04:36] <cow_2001> soundray, i don't think a reboot will do anything
[04:36] <ikonia> Littlegator: I didn't say it wasn't
[04:36] <TexasTaz> Oops yeah I forgot hold on
[04:36] <soundray> cow_2001: I didn't suggest you reboot
[04:36] <cow_2001> soundray, my father did
[04:36] <soundray> cow_2001: your father must be a Windows man
[04:36] <Zarephath> What other files if any should I install with kernel image 2.4.27?
[04:36] <Littlegator> ikonia: nevermind, but I still need help...
[04:37] <cow_2001> du
[04:37] <cow_2001> duh
[04:37] <ikonia> Zarephath: why would you be using 2.4 ?
[04:37] <cow_2001> that's it, he'll install windows
[04:37] <cow_2001> it's the edgy, i'm sure
[04:37] <TexasTaz> Faust-C:  Okay I regid now
[04:37] <BigMac> Hey I just went through and ndiswrapper'd my wifi card, and I installed a program to view all avalable networks. I click one and enter the wep key and it says I am connected but I have no ip? what can I do? how do I make this work so I can unplug this cat5 mess?
[04:37] <Faust-C> kk i got cha
[04:37] <Bert-> Hello there
[04:37] <cow_2001> one downgrades by a reinstall, right?
[04:37] <Bert-> just a little question
[04:37] <soundray> cow_2001: be sure to gloat at him when the mouse fails under XP, too.
[04:37] <Anomal1> brb
[04:38] <Zarephath> ikonia: I just searched with aptitude and that is what it listed...
[04:38] <Xilon|Macbook> this channel is too active
[04:38] <Bert-> I'm just trying ubuntu : great desktop distrib !! :)
[04:38] <cow_2001> soundray, 98, actually
[04:38] <[yojimbo] > question, Flash 8 claims to handle the not anti-aliased effect problem with dynamic text. but I can't see it does, anyone has any idea why?
[04:38] <Zarephath> ikonia: early..shoulda been looking at that for sure
[04:38] <ikonia> Zarephath: you sure it wasn't 2.6.26
[04:38] <ikonia> 7
[04:38] <ikonia> 27
[04:38] <Littlegator> How to I make a windows disk viewable?
[04:38] <Bert-> but one thing : I am actually unable to play remote mp3
[04:38] <wiertel> does colon : have some special meaning in the version info?   (eg   Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1), xserver-xorg-core (>= 1:1.1.1))
[04:38] <BigMac> Hey I just went through and ndiswrapper'd my wifi card, and I installed a program to view all avalable networks. I click one and enter the wep key and it says I am connected but I have no ip? what can I do? how do I make this work so I can unplug this cat5 mess?
[04:38] <Bert-> I can list directory with nautilus (using smb)
[04:39] <Littlegator> The documentation doesn't help because "Disk" isn't under System > Administration
[04:39] <Xilon|Macbook> Littlegator: mount -t ntfs /dev/sd<x><n> /mnt/windows
[04:39] <Bert-> but I have to cpy mp3 on my disk before being able to play it
[04:39] <soundray> cow_2001: time to become independent and get your own PC ;)
[04:39] <cow_2001> soundray, i have my own laptop
[04:39] <Bert-> someone can help me pleaase ?
[04:39] <Zarephath> ikonia: What the heck...it definitely is using 2.4...and it doesn't find 2.6 when searching with aptitude...
[04:39] <larson9999> my wife is soooo lucky to have me.
[04:39] <larson9999> only because i put ubuntu on her laptop.
[04:39] <Littlegator> Xilon|Macbook : Right, well I am a complete noob and have no idea where to even type that >_>
[04:39] <ikonia> Zarephath: show me the output of uname -a
[04:39] <cow_2001> soundray, but i'll have to do maintenance when it break
[04:40] <dyknicke> I have a strange problem with Ubuntu.. May computer won't turn off when I choose to "shut down"
[04:40] <co-NP> Bert-: I think this is a known bug
[04:40] <dyknicke> Fist I must log out, then shut off
[04:40] <hollywood177> #runescaperpg discuss the MMORPG runescape
[04:40] <cow_2001> hollywood177, woah.
[04:40] <Littlegator> rofl
[04:40] <Xilon|Macbook> hollywood177: umm spam?
[04:40] <cow_2001> Xilon|Macbook, exactly!
[04:41] <BigMac> Hey I just went through and ndiswrapper'd my wifi card, and I installed a program to view all avalable networks. I click one and enter the wep key and it says I am connected but I have no ip? what can I do? how do I make this work so I can unplug this cat5 mess?
[04:41] <BigMac> Can anyone help??
[04:41] <soundray> cow_2001: I'm the troubleshooter in my family too, but I insist that everyone use Linux, preferably Ubuntu.
[04:41] <Littlegator> Xilon: Where do I type that command? xD
[04:41] <Bert-> coNP: so no solution for now, just wait for bug to be resolved ? (or work myself on this bug) ??
[04:41] <quaal> can rhythym box not write to an ipod ?
[04:42] <Xilon|Macbook> Littlegator: Applications > Terminal
[04:42] <cow_2001> soundray, i used to care what sys is on that computer, but now that i have my own i don't
[04:42] <cow_2001> i'll just refuse
[04:42] <Littlegator> wow, I had even used that before >_>
[04:42] <hollywood177> i need help with ChanServ bots
[04:42] <RoADRuNNER__> hi everyone
[04:42] <ikonia> hollywood177: whats the problem with the bots
[04:42] <soundray> cow_2001: good choice. I do support for my wife, son, mum, dad and brother -- they all have Ubuntu. My sisters (one Mac, one Windows) are on their own ;)
[04:42] <Zarephath> Wow this is freakin' me out...apt-cache search isn't finding any 2.6 kernels...
[04:43] <ikonia> hollywood177: remember - this is ubuntu support - not irc 101
[04:43] <hollywood177> i need one person that is pretty good with ChanServ commands
[04:43] <ikonia> hollywood177: sorry dude, this is ubuntu support
[04:43] <Littlegator> I have to be on root to mount?
[04:43] <cow_2001> meh :-/
[04:43] <hollywood177> STOP FLIPPING PINGING ME
[04:43] <cow_2001> soundray, and it's partly my own computer
[04:43] <Littlegator> hollywood177 lol
[04:43] <hollywood177> It's getting annoying
[04:43] <ikonia> hollywood177: who is pining you
[04:43] <Xilon|Macbook> Littlegator: yes
[04:43] <Littlegator> hollywood177 leave
[04:43] <cow_2001> soundray, that's the annoying part
[04:43] <[swe] Robin> Who likes the new control center
[04:43] <hollywood177> littlegator
[04:44] <ikonia> Littlegator: why are you pinging him ?
[04:44] <Anomal1> ikonia: :)
[04:44] <Anomal1> i've got it working now
[04:44] <Littlegator> ikonia: he was spamming >_>
[04:44] <ikonia> Anomal1: great, thats the problem
[04:44] <ikonia> Littlegator: I didn't see him spam, thats no reason to ping him
[04:44] <hollywood177> i did
[04:44] <hollywood177> i posted my channel
[04:44] <Anomal1> ikonia: huh? what's the problem? :S
[04:44] <hollywood177> which i guess it spam
[04:44] <ikonia> Anomal1: the fix
[04:44] <larson9999> getting this error compiling: "scripts/mod/modpost: not found" should modpost be on my system?
[04:44] <Littlegator> ohh, you OWN a runescape channel... lol, leave
[04:45] <LjL> folks, what's going on please?
[04:45] <Anomal1> anyway, update time
[04:45] <LjL> Littlegator, hollywood177: what's the matter?
[04:45] <Anomal1> turrah
[04:45] <ikonia> Anomal1: sorry I was asking what the fix was
[04:45] <coNP> Bert-: I cannot find this bug now, but should be somwhere listed along https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bugs
[04:45] <[swe] Robin> What is going on here
[04:45] <cow_2001> meh, me goes off
[04:45] <hollywood177> whose is the IRCop
[04:45] <BigMac> Does anyone here use the "mail-notification" program here because I have it running but it no longer shows in the task pane
[04:45] <cow_2001> soundray, thanks
[04:45] <cow_2001> bye bye
[04:45] <soundray> cow_2001: good luck
[04:46] <ikonia> LjL: is
[04:46] <cow_2001> soundray, thank you
[04:46] <LjL> hollywood177, you need channel operators? if so, join #ubuntu-ops
[04:46] <Zarephath> Ok I need some help..for some reason (I have checked sources.list) I don't see any 2.6 kernel images..anyone propose a reason why that would be?
[04:46] <Bert-> coNP: ok thanks, I'll mount the volume for now and try to look around about this bug
[04:47] <ikonia> Zarephath: can you show me the output of uname -a please
[04:47] <[swe] Robin> What do you guys think of the new control center in Ubuntu 7.04
[04:47] <ikonia> Zarephath: the package name is linux-image
[04:47] <Zarephath> ikonia: Ok
[04:47] <Littlegator> So, how do I login to root? >_>
[04:47] <coNP> Bert-: thank *you*
[04:47] <jrib> !root | Littlegator
[04:47] <ubotu> Littlegator: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:47] <LjL> Littlegator: "sudo -i"
[04:47] <ikonia> Littlegator: you don't
[04:47] <Littlegator> oh
[04:47] <Littlegator> just use sudo
[04:48] <ikonia> Littlegator: read the basics on ubuntu.com
[04:48] <ikonia> it will give you a good grounding
[04:48] <Littlegator> I was going to, but I wanted to listen to music during the read :p
[04:48] <Zarephath> ikonia: 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP...I don't have two processors this is a AMD 3200+ CPU...but I want to run 32 bit for compatibility..
[04:49] <ikonia> thats fine
[04:49] <ikonia> smp doesn't have to have 2 cpu's
[04:49] <ikonia> it can be just one
[04:49] <ikonia> its smp compatible, not smp only
[04:49] <BigMac> Can someone tell me how to have something show in the task bar?
[04:49] <ikonia> BigMac: like what
[04:49] <Littlegator> How do I know what the numbers are? like /dev/sd<x><n>
[04:50] <ikonia> Littlegator:what do you mean
[04:50] <ShiftyPowers> guys, how do I force a restart of apache2?
[04:50] <ShiftyPowers> it's gone all crazy on me
[04:50] <ikonia> sda is your first scsi/sata disk - partition one is 1 partition 2 is 2
[04:50] <ikonia> ShiftyPowers: sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[04:50] <Littlegator> so it would be sda1 for disk 1 partition 1?
[04:50] <BigMac> ikonia: I want mail-notification to show there, it did before but I accidentally dragged it off
[04:50] <ShiftyPowers> ikonia, that's what I ran but I get this http://www.pastebin.ca/350590
[04:50] <Littlegator> sdb1, sdb2, etc?
[04:50] <ikonia> Littlegator: if your first disk is scsi or sata - yes
[04:51] <ikonia> ShiftyPowers: you've not configured apache - its using localhost for a hostname (127.0.0.1)
[04:51] <Littlegator> I can't type when it asks me for my password...
[04:51] <LjL> Littlegator: yes you can
[04:51] <Zarephath> ikonia: Looks like they went with more generic kernels...mine is generic right now..but the -11 version borks my mouse to where it doesn't work...should I use the 386 kernel instead?
[04:51] <jrib> Littlegator: you don't see it, but you are typing
[04:51] <soundray> Littlegator: you can. You just don't see it
[04:51] <Littlegator> oh, lol
[04:52] <ShiftyPowers> ikonia, what do you mean?
[04:52] <LjL> Littlegator: obviously, what you type isn't shown, since it's a password - you know, it's meant to be secret
[04:52] <BigMac> ikonia:...?
[04:52] <ikonia> ShiftyPowers: I mean you've not configured apache - the servername directive has not been set so its using 127.0.0.1
[04:52] <CyberCod> what was the ubuntu discussion channel again?
[04:52] <Littlegator> well yeah, I wasn't thinking lol
[04:52] <jrib> !offtopic | CyberCod
[04:52] <ubotu> CyberCod: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:52] <ShiftyPowers> oh, where can I set the ServerName then?
[04:52] <hollywood177> bye!
[04:52] <ikonia> ShiftyPowers: read up on apache
[04:52] <CyberCod> thnx
[04:53] <jexdawg> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:53] <bart_> ShiftyPowers /etc/apache2/apache2.conf , add ServerName blablabla.bla
[04:53] <Littlegator> so how do I mount a NTFS drive?
[04:53] <ShiftyPowers> yep, i think i got it
[04:53] <LjL> !ntfs > Littlegator    (Littlegator, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:53] <ShiftyPowers> thanks guys
[04:53] <ikonia> Littlegator: you've been tool a few times
[04:53] <bart_> Apache2 + WebDAV + Virusscanner , Anyone have a working setup of this ?
[04:53] <Littlegator> ikonia: K, that really helps
[04:53] <ikonia> bart_: why would you have a virus scanner linked into apache
[04:54] <ikonia> Littlegator: sorry, I'm trying to highlight that you've been told, you have to start paying attention
[04:54] <BigMac> ikonia:are you ignoring me or do you have no idea what to do
[04:54] <bart_> because people can upload files thought the webdav protocol and we like to scan those
[04:54] <zero88> wow, would anyone know why my wireless internet isnt sending packets,but it is receiving fine?
[04:54] <Littlegator> Ljl: I've been there, it says to go to system > administration > disks, but disks isn't on there
[04:54] <ikonia> BigMac: sorry the screens scrolling fast with noise so I've not seen your quesiton
[04:54] <amorphous_> when i try to ifup my wireless, I get NoDHCPOFFERS recieved, but when I ifdown eth1 (the wireless) I get DHCPRELEASE on eth1 192.168.1.1 - does that mean it got a dhcp? I can't get a connection, and everything seems right. always had a connection before, but tried to connect to a mates yesterday and now can't get mine??!?! sugestions?
[04:54] <bart_> I've tried streamav ,mod_clamav ,mod_security , dansguardian and http antivirus proxy but none are good enough
[04:54] <LjL> Littlegator: uhm, no, that's what !mount said. but i gave you !ntfs not !mount
[04:54] <soundray> BigMac: try right-clicking the panel, select Add-to-panel, select mail-notifier
[04:55] <Littlegator> well it sent me !mount
[04:55] <LjL> Littlegator: and anyway !mount does specify that it's only for Dapper, and not there in Edgy
[04:55] <LjL> !ntfs > LjL    (LjL, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:55] <LjL> if you say so
[04:55] <jexdawg> i have java sjr installed (hopefully correctly) as well as frostwire, but when i run frostwire in terminal i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5254/ and the frostwire window comes up, displays the tip of the day, and then just leaves an empty screen with only the frostwire title active... how do i fix it?
[04:55] <ikonia> Littlegator: as I said  - you need to start listening
[04:55] <LjL> !ntfs | Littlegator
[04:55] <ubotu> Littlegator: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:55] <LjL> this is what it sends
[04:55] <BigMac>  ikonia: I want mail-notification to show there, it did before but I accidentally dragged it off
[04:56] <Littlegator> yes, and when I go to that link, it tells me to go the system > administration > disks
[04:56] <heya0007> have anyone here used C72 Siemens Mobile Phone on linux?
[04:56] <ikonia> BigMac: right click on it and add an applet (not sure of which one)
[04:56] <BigMac> that would just open the program I am thinking ikonia?
[04:56] <BigMac> when I click it
[04:56] <Littlegator> ....wait, what? The page is different now...
[04:56] <ikonia> BigMac: right click on the task bar and add the pannel
[04:56] <LjL> Littlegator: that page doesn't mention the word "administration" at all. ever.
[04:56] <ikonia> Littlegator: no its not - you just missed it first time around
[04:57] <Littlegator> ikonia: no, it's different, last time I viewed it it was about 2 paragraphs
[04:57] <Littlegator> anyways, k, I'll read this
[04:57] <LjL> Littlegator, it was another page.
[04:57] <heya0007> hey, i need to install a usb cable to comunicate with my C72 mobile phone (siemens), can you guys help me? what kernel modules should i load?
[04:57] <Littlegator> I know, but I don't know why I got that one
[04:57] <ikonia> gee - I wonder
[04:58] <BigMac> ok then what ikonia?
[04:58] <ikonia> BigMac: add the mail applet (not sure which one)
[04:58] <bart_> heya007 : maybe SynCE can help you ?
[04:58] <jexdawg> alright i guess i'll just reinstall java and frostwire but i'm still annoyingly new to ubuntu - how do i "purge" them both?
[04:58] <bart_> heya : not sure tho cause it's for pocket pc's etc
[04:58] <heya0007> bart_, what is synce?
[04:58] <LjL> !synce-serial | heya0007
[04:58] <ubotu> heya0007: synce-serial: SynCE connection manipulation scripts. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-3 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 120 kB
[04:59] <LjL> heya0007: eh, it's for connecting PocketPC PDAs anyway
[04:59] <bart_> Heya see http://www.synce.org/ and http://www.synce.org/index.php/SynCE-Wiki
[04:59] <heya0007> i ll give it a try
[04:59] <heya0007> thx
[05:00] <art_> i have this error - what i can do whit this? http://wklej.org/id/9a87e2122a
[05:00] <Littlegator> LjL: So now they're mounted, how do I view them?
[05:01] <ikonia> art_: exactly  the same error as I told you how to fix last time
[05:01] <soundray> art_: what's your graphics card?
[05:01] <LjL> Littlegator: with nautilus, by going to /media, if you mounted them so that they're visible to all users (or at least your user) as the page instructs
[05:01] <art_> iknow - but it didnt work
[05:01] <art_> i have nvidia ghorce3
[05:01] <Littlegator> oh, I have to use nautilus
[05:01] <LjL> Littlegator: otherwise, fire up a shell and type "cd /media/themountpoint", and "ls"
[05:01] <ikonia> art_: you may need nvidia-legacy - rather than nvidia packages
[05:02] <jexdawg> how can i completely remove both frostwire and the java jre runtime enviro? they are failing (i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5254/ ) and i'd like to just uninstall them and start over
[05:02] <art_> how to get them?
[05:02] <Littlegator> so, where's nautilus? >_>
[05:02] <ikonia> art_: apt or saynaptic
[05:02] <LjL> Littlegator: .... nautilus if the file manager
[05:02] <ikonia> Littlegator: ubuntu.com - please read the basics
[05:02] <Littlegator> yeha, I figured
[05:02] <ikonia> like you said you where going to
[05:02] <Littlegator> ikonia: I've explained this
[05:02] <soundray> art_: NVidia GeForce 3 is a motherboard chipset. What's your graphics card? Try lspci to find out
[05:03] <BigMac> ikonia: All I see is add an application launcher, sorry but I am going to need this spoon fed
[05:03] <art_> gforce is card, not chipset
[05:03] <ikonia> BigMac: I don't know - sorry
[05:04] <fraroco> I want to see vcds I have install xine with automatix but It does not works.
[05:04] <soundray> BigMac: they are applets, not launchers
[05:04] <ikonia> soundray: gefore is card - nforce is chipset
[05:04] <soundray> ikonia: oops, thanks
[05:04] <ikonia> soundray: easy mistake
[05:04] <soundray> art_: I take it all back and apologize
[05:04] <art_> ;)
[05:04] <art_> http://wklej.org/id/6fda6cbea6
[05:04] <art_> np
[05:04] <ikonia> art_: I don't need to see the link again - I've suggested what to do
[05:04] <Orhan_TURKEY> I am a newcomer and installed my first ubuntu
[05:04] <amorphous_> how can I remove all my network settings and start @ square one?
[05:05] <art_> its another one
[05:05] <Orhan_TURKEY> can any body help me? in private plz
[05:05] <LjL> !pm
[05:05] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[05:05] <ikonia> Orhan_TURKEY: just ask in the channel
[05:05] <amorphous_> Orhan_TURKEY, well done mate
[05:05] <soundray> art_: have you tried the wiki instructions?
[05:05] <ikonia> art_: just follow my suggestion
[05:05] <coNP> amorphous_: what kind of network settings you mean?
[05:05] <soundray> !nvidia | art_ (note ikonia's hint and try -legacy)
[05:05] <ubotu> art_ (note ikonia's hint and try -legacy): To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:06] <art_> ok - so i need  to sudo apt-get install nvidia-legacy?
[05:06] <Orhan_TURKEY> amorph thanks I just want to install some additional programs and know the repository of those programs
[05:06] <heya0007> anyone here download pictures from siemens mobile phones on linux?
[05:06] <soundray> art_: follow the help pages
[05:06] <amorphous_> coNP, everything... I've been trying to get my wireless to work for about 2 hours & having no joy & don't understand why.
[05:06] <BigMac> soundray: There is only add, application launcher, and custom application launcher
[05:06] <coNP> amorphous_: how do you try to get it work (i.e. configure it)?
[05:06] <amorphous_> coNP, can I remove all networking services/settings and atart again?#
[05:06] <bad-cables-> how do you install a wireless PCMCIA card?
[05:07] <jexdawg> to install ATI/NVidia drivers, for noobs i'd recomend envy ... makes it a LOT easier. link: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:07] <bad-cables-> i assume you get something from synaptic
[05:07] <coNP> amorphous_: oh, sorry; not familiar with wireless cards
[05:08] <bad-cables-> how do you install a wireless card?
[05:08] <amorphous_> coNP, using the gui's... I use ifup & ifdown... but it wont get a dhcp address
[05:08] <amorphous_> :(
[05:08] <Orhan_TURKEY> BR TANE ALLAHIN TRK YOKMU BURDA CEVAP VERSN
[05:08] <bjornolai> When I boot into my computer only the first program I start opens. Other programs seem to start, and I see them i the promt as running processes, they just never show up in my desktop. Any suggestions what I can do..
[05:08] <soundray> BigMac: do you have the package gnome-applets installed?
[05:08] <BigMac> soundray: no should I ?
[05:08] <billybob> !xfs
[05:08] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB
[05:09] <billybob> anyone here familiar with the XFS file system ?
[05:09] <ikonia> yes
[05:09] <soundray> BigMac: probably. Is there a reason why you didn't do the normal install with the ubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[05:09] <billybob> im trying to set block size, having difficulties .  ..
[05:09] <bad-cables-> what do i need to do to get a wireless PC card working?
[05:09] <soundray> !wireless | bad-cables-
[05:09] <ubotu> bad-cables-: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <BigMac> soundray:  Oh then maybe I have it installed
[05:10] <jexdawg> haha... bad cables for a wireless connection. lol
[05:10] <arjun> hi! i have a question about X on dapper
[05:11] <jexdawg> what music/downloading (legally of course) and general p2p program for ubuntu do you guys recommend?
[05:11] <soundray> BigMac: are you on edgy?
[05:11] <BigMac> soundray: yes
[05:11] <soundray> BigMac: did you get there by upgrading, or is it a fresh install?
[05:11] <BigMac> fresh
[05:12] <bjornolai> jexdawg, azuresus has worked good for me
[05:12] <Igor_V2> how can i get the w32 codecs?
[05:12] <jammer> hi to all
[05:12] <arjun> arjun: I just did a server install on dapper, and then installed xserver-xorg-core, xerver-xorg and fvwm
[05:12] <soundray> BigMac: does 'sudo apt-get -f install' indicate any package inconsistencies?
[05:12] <soundray> !codec | Igor_V2
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <soundray> !codecs | Igor_V2
[05:12] <ubotu> Igor_V2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <arjun> and somehow, 'startx' isnt there. am i doing something wrong?
[05:12] <jexdawg> bjornolai, isn't that bit torrent only though? not direct connect, which is much more effective for old and random songs... or does azureus do both?
[05:13] <quaal> can rhythym box write to an ipod ?
[05:13] <jammer> I'm still going mad with mine Notebook... I've just 2days installed edgy leaving winzoz forever (I hope)... but something's wrong with my wireless adapter... someone ca help me?
[05:13] <bjornolai> jexdawg, your probably right. Only used it with bit torrent
[05:13] <soundray> !wireless | jammer
[05:13] <ubotu> jammer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:14] <jexdawg> yeah. i heard good things about frostwire but i can't get it to work for some reason. errors on pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5254/
[05:14] <bjornolai> anyone had any problem with programs running, just not in X
[05:14] <rob5> if i have two log files on my system from one of my programs I made, how can I get the contents of each of them emailed to me everyday using cron?
[05:14] <jammer> soundray: I've read all on ubuntu forum but nothing to do my Acer Travelmate 4400  doesn't work
[05:14] <jammer> What I can do?
[05:14] <BigMac> soundray: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:14] <hjmills> #tovid
[05:15] <Zarephath> I upgraded my linux-image...now my mouse doesn't work...lsmod shows psmouse...I am at a tty since I can't use my mouse in the window manager...where do I go from here? The mouse is a logitech USB and the batteries are new...
[05:15] <PwcrLinux> Hello again.. I wondered what's up with my system, when I play DVD movie gets choppy and I checked DMA on CDRW/DVD drive it's still show 'ON' (hdc), dvd player spiked CPU at 100
[05:15] <soundray> BigMac: what about 'sudo apt-get -s install ubuntu-desktop' (the -s is for a dry run, so it won't download anything)
[05:16] <arjun> jammer: what exactly is the problem?
[05:16] <ikonia> if your cpu is %100 it will get choppy
[05:16] <sacater> im trying to copy my entiter home area /home/sacater, to /mnt. However it keeps saying permission denied, whats going on?
[05:16] <sacater> it worked before
[05:16] <PwcrLinux> ikonia: yep
[05:16] <arjun> jammer: I have an intel 2200 b/g and it worked just fine the last time i tried
[05:16] <coNP> sacater: do you copy this as root?
[05:16] <PwcrLinux> even FF browser too
[05:16] <coNP> sacater: I mean via sudo
[05:17] <Littlegator> so, after looking over the basics, I found that it said noting about browsing to different hard disks
[05:17] <sacater> coNP: no normal user, but it never needed sudo before
[05:17] <ikonia> you can't have read the basics in 10 minutes
[05:17] <sacater> coNP: and also i cant add my whole profile to a tar.gz
[05:17] <trace_E_G> Hello
[05:17] <sacater> coNP: i have to select all the things within the folder
[05:18] <coNP> sacater: you might need this if you have files created by sudo e.g.
[05:18] <jexdawg> i just ran echo 3 | sudo update-alternatives --config java and i now have 2 options: 1 /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1   OR  2 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java - which one should i pick?
[05:18] <trace_E_G> Was anyone able to get sound working on a IBM 600E runinng
[05:18] <coNP> sacater: that are owned by not you but the root
[05:18] <jelly-home> Hi, what is the correct way to detect an ubuntu installation?
[05:18] <soundray> sacater: you need sudo to write to /mnt
[05:18] <Sanne> hi
[05:18] <jammer> I've read that I need 2 software acer_acpi to startup wireless card, and a bclw*.inf and sys files for firmware to load into ndiswrapper... well I've just loaded firmware but acer_acpi doesnt work... and front panel blinking led doesn't works at same!
[05:18] <ikonia> jelly-home: boot it ?
[05:18] <trace_E_G> 6.10
[05:18] <jammer> Some idea?
[05:18] <sacater> coNP: how do i know which ones are owned by sudo or not, there are dozens
[05:18] <jelly-home> ikonia: programatically.
[05:18] <hjmills> how can I encode an avi to an mpeg (for a dvd) and limit the size to a gig?
[05:18] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[05:18] <sacater> i have full write abilites to /mnt
[05:19] <BigMac> soundray: Whre would the applet installer be if I already have it installed
[05:19] <sacater> i know cos i use it
[05:19] <Sanne> I'm running fsck on another pc. There are too many errors and I'd like to abort the check. Can I safely do ctrl-c?
[05:19] <arjun> jammer: which wireless card is it?
[05:19] <jammer> arjun: is a Broadcom 43xx model as a standard built in card!
[05:19] <soundray> BigMac: right click on the panel, Add to Panel
[05:19] <BigMac> I already have the newest version according to the terminal soundray
[05:19] <Littlegator> How do I view files on mounted windows hard disks?
[05:19] <Eposhark> arjun: my Intel 2200 BG card isn't working either
[05:19] <ikonia> Littlegator: you've been told mutiple times
[05:20] <Littlegator> ikonia: no I haven't
[05:20] <arjun> jammer: hmm.. i have a friend with the same problem. dont remember if he got rid of it though.
[05:20] <ikonia> you have -
[05:20] <soundray> BigMac: something is really strange then. Add to Panel should give you a choice of applets to install in the panel
[05:20] <name> good day
[05:20] <arjun> Eposhark: well, mine worked out of the box.
[05:20] <Littlegator> I've been told "cd /media/themountpoint", and "ls" and I'm not sure what that means
[05:20] <Littlegator> nobody has told me anything other than that
[05:20] <ikonia> you've been given links
[05:20] <drkm> how do I install KDE headers with apt-get?
[05:20] <Eposhark> Same here, on the kernel that came with ubuntu, but not on a custom compiled kernel
[05:20] <BigMac> yah it has a list of things like geyes and stuff but mail notification is not there
[05:20] <Eposhark> I can't find why tho
[05:20] <LjL> !compile > drkm    (drkm, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:20] <ikonia> you've been told to browse that mount point with nautalius
[05:21] <LjL> drkm: kde-devel
[05:21] <jammer> arjun: I'm use my notebook for work.... then I need wireless
[05:21] <jammer> :((((8
[05:21] <Littlegator> ikonia: The link told me how to mount it, now how to view the files
[05:21] <drkm> ok thanks
[05:21] <arjun> jammer: that totally sucks
[05:21] <name> how to configure X so two stand-alone X sessions are started at two monitors
[05:21] <steveire> Is it possible to put symbols like theta into xlabels in gnuplot?
[05:21] <name> each using a different keyboard and mouse
[05:21] <Littlegator> I also don't know how to browse to it with nautilus, and the basics didn't help
[05:21] <sacater> coNK: if I copy my home area as sudo, the home area copy can still be accessed by non-sudo/me
[05:21] <LjL> Littlegator: hit Alt+F2 and type "nautilus /media"
[05:21] <BigMac> soundray:  yah it has a list of things like geyes and stuff but mail notification is not there
[05:22] <trandism> !bcfg2
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcfg2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <Littlegator> thank you
[05:22] <LjL> Littlegator: if the drive's not mounted correctly, please read !ntfs again. it explains what there is to be explained. if you're stuck on something specific, then please ask a specific question
[05:22] <drkm> LjL: when I went to install it, it said "The following packages have unmet dependencies".. then a list of packages.. what do I need to do?
[05:22] <hjmills> Littlegator, in nautilus keep going up until you get to the root of the filesystem then go into /media and you can see the mount point
[05:22] <jammer> arjun: I don't believe that theresn't an automatic way to configure this feature or an online complete guide :((((
[05:22] <jpjacobs> steveire, you could try putting them there if you export to eps/ps/fig and edit with xfig, export as latex, and then run latex on it
[05:23] <steveire> O_O
[05:23] <jpjacobs> :)
[05:23] <LjL> drkm: uhm, that shouldn't happen i think - pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[05:23] <steveire> I set terminal png, and plot.
[05:23] <Littlegator> Where can I get a .mp3 decoder? >_>
[05:23] <LjL> !mp3 > Littlegator    (Littlegator, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:23] <BigMac> soundray: join #ubuntu-applet-help
[05:23] <steveire> It has to be scriptable
[05:23] <ikonia> Littlegator: read wiki.ubuntu.com and search for restricted formats
[05:23] <quaal> does anyone know how to write to an ipod in ubuntu ?
[05:24] <luke_> hello
[05:24] <soundray> BigMac: no, I have to go in a minute. Have you tried Alt-F2 mail-notification ?
[05:24] <steveire> !restricted
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <steveire> !ipod
[05:24] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:24] <jpjacobs> quaal, there are toosl for that, use synaptic or apt-cace search to find them
[05:24] <quaal> thanks
[05:24] <luke_> Hi - I am new to Linux and Ubuntu. And I have a problem. Does anyone have a few minutes to help me?
[05:24] <BigMac> soundray: It is running, the icon just doesn't show in the system tray
[05:24] <bjornolai> Im really at a loss here. I cant open more than one program.. If I log in without glx however everything seems to work
[05:25] <jpjacobs> !ask |luke_
[05:25] <ubotu> luke_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <luke_> sure :-)
[05:25] <Littlegator> is there a hotkey for terminal?
[05:25] <jpjacobs> Littlegator, you can make one
[05:25] <Littlegator> k
[05:25] <luke_> I have just installed ubuntu and after installation my wireless card on my IBM T30 laptop is working fine.
[05:25] <zeus> hello
[05:25] <soundray> BigMac: sorry, I can't help
[05:25] <grimboy> zenit, Lo
[05:25] <sacater> please help i cant copy /home/sacater into /mnt
[05:26] <sacater> and i could before
[05:26] <ikonia> scane: what does it say
[05:26] <luke_> Then I upgrade all system components and after this, ubuntu thinks my wireless card is a wired network card, making me unable to use my wireless connection
[05:26] <sacater> permission dened
[05:26] <grimboy> sacater, Are you sudoing it?
[05:26] <hjmills> how can i encode an avi to an mpeg (for dvd) at a particular size?
[05:26] <ikonia> sacater: there you go then
[05:26] <ikonia> bad permssions
[05:26] <sacater> grimboy: no
[05:26] <grimboy> hjmf, tovid
[05:26] <ikonia> sacater: change the permissions
[05:26] <sacater> ikionia: of?
[05:26] <mdonahoe> anyone having trouble with gftp shutting down after this last update?
[05:27] <jammer> hjmills: You can use vlc.... with some trascoder option ;)
[05:27] <ikonia> sacater: the source and target dir
[05:27] <hjmills> jammer, thanks - ill take a look
[05:27] <fraroco> I want to see vcds I have install xine with automatix but It does not works.
[05:27] <jexdawg> i'm running beryl with the desktop cube and my global hotkeys for rhythmbox only seem to work when the program is actively selected, which is annoying because i like to havemy music in the background cubes and have the hotkeys work for it globally, but thta isn't the case. can i make the hotkey (specifically alt+right for next song) global?
[05:27] <steveire> no more ideas on putting symbols into gnuplot()
[05:27] <arjun> luke_: tried 'iwconfig'?
[05:27] <sacater> ikiona: but i could copy it earlier, so why not noe
[05:27] <sacater> ikiona: but i could copy it earlier, so why not now
[05:27] <grimboy> hjmills, Also try http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[05:27] <luke_> no - should I just type iwconfig in the terminal window?
[05:27] <grimboy> hjmills, That's what I use.
[05:27] <ikonia> sacater: because whatever was mounted on /mnt is no longer mounter, or you where a difference use ?
[05:27] <arjun> luke_: yep!
[05:27] <hjmills> grimboy, oh ok - thanks - can i limit the size with that?
[05:28] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hi all!when i open mozilla thunderbird as a normal user it reports error in WebMail extensions, but everything works fine when i open it as a super user!how to set up it works fine with normal user acc???
[05:28] <BigMac> seraphim: You here?
[05:28] <jexdawg> yay! i downgraded to a lower java version and reinstalled frostwire... woot it works now
[05:28] <grimboy> hjmills, Well, it has an option to fit to different types of disk.
[05:28] <luke_> I have a little more information - because during boot, I can choose to boot the version 10 kernel instead of the version 11, and then ubuntu finds my wireless card
[05:28] <hjmills> grimboy, oh ok - thanks
[05:28] <bjornolai> sacater, once youve done one sudo its rememered a while. sure you werent sudo before
[05:29] <arjun> luke_: hmm.. go ahead and type iwconfig
[05:29] <luke_> i have just done that
[05:29] <sacater> bjornolai: absouloutley, were talking a span over weeks
[05:29] <arjun> luke_: and? what does it show?
[05:29] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !program premission
[05:29] <luke_> it shows my wireless card, but i am also running the version 10 kernel rigtht now
[05:30] <luke_> so i will need to reboot, and run version 11, and then try iwconfig
[05:30] <cyber_brain_mfkg> hi all!when i open mozilla thunderbird as a normal user it reports error in WebMail extensions, but everything works fine when i open it as a super user!how to set up it works fine with normal user acc???
[05:30] <arjun> luke_: okay
[05:30] <ikonia> cyber_brain_mfkg: we need more info on the error
[05:30] <trace_E_G> Anyone know to commands to probe ans setup sound HW in 6.10...I can't seem to disable pnp now and the wrong sound module keeps getting loaded
[05:31] <luke_> but what do i do, if it does not find my wireless card, when I boot with version 11 of the kernel?
[05:31] <hbaigu> steveire, see http://t16web.lanl.gov/Kawano/gnuplot/label-e.html
[05:31] <fraroco> I want to see vcds I have install xine with automatix but It does not works.
[05:31] <whonicca> whats the key to move windows around on gnome, say ones without borders and menubars
[05:31] <arjun> luke_: lets see how it turns out first.
[05:31] <lightseed> hello
[05:31] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ikonia, it cant connect to mail server as a normal user!extensions don't work at all!but with sudo everythings fine
[05:31] <luke_> ok, be back in 10 minutes then. Thanks so much
[05:31] <arjun> luke_: im pretty new to this thing too!
[05:31] <lightseed> is the ubuntu boot screen supposed to be grey? anyone get this?
[05:32] <ikonia> cyber_brain_mfkg: need more info on exact error
[05:32] <ikonia> lightseed: no
[05:32] <steveire> hbaigu: Thanks for the link.
[05:32] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ikonia, WebMail indicator LED i red and belowe it says "ERROR"!that's all
[05:32] <cyber_brain_mfkg> *is red
[05:33] <lightseed> ikonia: something to do with the virtual fb maybe
[05:33] <trace_E_G> Anyone using an IBM 600e?
[05:33] <ikonia> lightseed: no idea
[05:33] <jammer> I'm coming back in 10min too
[05:33] <jammer> see you later
[05:34] <Zaggynl> Hi, I've just installed quodlibet, but I have no Internet Radio option in the View menu, did I forget/miss something
[05:34] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ikonia, i need how to set up premissions for thunderbird!how normal user can same premissions as a su!
[05:34] <ikonia> cyber_brain_mfkg: I don't think thats the problem
[05:35] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ikonia, do you know how WebMail works?
[05:35] <steveire> hbaigu: Eh, do I have to redirect the output to a file or something? It's printing out lots of stuff to stdout
[05:35] <CrakeHunter> guys, how do i mount my cdrom automatically? (hda)
[05:35] <coNP> cyber_brain_mfkg: which webmail?
[05:36] <pbureau> your cdrom is not likely to be hda, more likely hdc
[05:36] <ikonia> cyber_brain_mfkg: only very basiclly
[05:36] <PwcrLinux> hda is a hard drive and hdc is a CD or DVD drive or combo
[05:36] <pbureau> CrakeHunter, type mount /dev/cdrom
[05:37] <aidanr> isn't hda just primary master
[05:37] <aidanr> which could be a cdrom
[05:37] <Littlegator> Is there any way to move windows to a different workspace?
[05:37] <coNP> aidanr: sure
[05:37] <aidanr> andd have sda etc sata drives
[05:37] <gh0st> any HEBREW speaker ? i have a question...
[05:37] <smoked> heyas
[05:37] <coNP> Littlegator: ctrl-alt-arrows?
[05:37] <Littlegator> oh >_>
[05:37] <smoked> does anyone have beryl running
[05:37] <coNP> Littlegator: click on the titlebar and select on which workspace they should appear
[05:38] <cyber_brain_mfkg> ikonia, coNP - look i want to recieve my Yahoo,Gmail,Hotmail in my thunderbird inbox!and i installed WebMail extensions for thunderbird!and it works fine in su mode but as a regular user it can't find server!
[05:38] <Littlegator> can I move a batch of them? like 17 audacity windows? >_>
[05:38] <K1GPL> is it possible that after recent updates, edgy is turning my computer off after periods of inactivity?
[05:38] <hbaigu> steveire, if you set 'set terminal postscript *', you have to set the command to redirect to a file (set output "postscrit.ps")
[05:39] <steveire> hbaigu: Thanks, yes, just found that out
[05:39] <aidanr> smoked, yes but if you have a question about it ask in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[05:39] <LinTux> when is the next version of Ubuntu due?
[05:39] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !webmail
[05:39] <steveire> I'd really like it in .png though, because I want to put it in <img> tags in a html file.
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <luke_> Hi again
[05:40] <steveire> I can't guarantee the users will have imagemagick
[05:40] <jelly-home> Hi, what is the correct way to detect an ubuntu installation programatically? Also, is repeating questions frowned upon on this channel?
[05:40] <pbureau> K1GPL, check your power settings, its sleep or hibernate modes
[05:40] <steveire> LinTux: April
[05:40] <zyth> steveire, statically compile the libs in then
[05:40] <LinTux> cheers
[05:40] <steveire> zyth: Eh?
[05:40] <zyth> steveire, nm, misread
[05:40] <smoked> does anyone have beryl running
[05:40] <zyth> thought you were programming :)
[05:40] <PwcrLinux> !beryl
[05:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:40] <gh0st> !arabic
[05:40] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[05:40] <CrakeHunter> if i mount my cdrom it tells me:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda, missing codepage or other error
[05:41] <smoked> i know what it is
[05:41] <coNP> cyber_brain_mfkg: you might ask this on a mozilla / thunderbird support channel
[05:41] <smoked> just wondering if anyones using it
[05:41] <smoked> i knw its not stable
[05:41] <coNP> cyber_brain_mfkg: seems that it is not ubuntu-specific, but I don't know just a hint
[05:41] <smoked> but how unstable is it
[05:41] <pbureau> CrakeHunter, cat /etc/fstab please
[05:41] <PwcrLinux> I am not a effects fan
[05:41] <salotti> hi... I have a problem with a repositories.. that won let me do nothing on my system.... Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg    .. there is another mirorr ?
[05:41] <hbaigu> steveire, you also have gs (ghostscript)
[05:41] <eternal_p> good morning all...I am wondering, is it possible ot map the windowskey + d to bring everything to the desktop (like windows)?
[05:41] <CrakeHunter> i made a pastebin of my fstab:  http://pastebin.ca/350648
[05:41] <zyth> smoked, it crashes alot.  Not stable.  hence, it being called unstable.  It may lock your system, crash your hard disk, or eat your babies.
[05:42] <smoked> hahah
[05:42] <luke_> I have a problem with my wireless network card. I have just installed Ubuntu. My wireless card is found and works fine. However after updating all system components, my wireless card is identified as a wired network card. If I boot Ubuntu with kernel version 6.2.17-10 my wirelsss card works, but not if Ubuntu boots normally with kernel 6.2.17-11. Please advice
[05:42] <smoked> ic
[05:42] <steveire> hbaigu: Can I'll have to make some compromise it seems
[05:42] <DiOXiN> My sound does'nt work, I use to enter  chmod /777/dev/dsp*  and then I can use xmms for my mp3 but now NO SOUND! what did I miss?
[05:42] <smoked> what about Kubuntu
[05:42] <smoked> it can use the opengl
[05:42] <smoked> for 3d cubes
[05:42] <Enverex> What's the command to force a reinstall through apt-get?
[05:42] <xtknight> my gtk doesn't seem to be accelerated in 2d.  any idea what's up with that?  (for example, create a large button in glade designer, mouseover it and it uses 100% cpu)
[05:42] <luke_> I have tried iwconfig when I boot with kernel 6.2.17-11 - and Ubuntu finds no wireless cards
[05:42] <smoked> sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:42] <tim167> is there a tool to convert rm > avi ?
[05:43] <arjun> luke_: this seems to be some sort of problem with the kernel
[05:43] <BigMac> How can I use a .ico stored in /home/mike/images/ as the icon fo an application in the top panel?
[05:43] <tim167> can mencoder do rm > avi ?
[05:43] <CrakeHunter> pbureau, i did make a  cat /etc/fstab
[05:43] <eternal_p> luke: I believe there is a message in the forum which deals with this
[05:43] <eternal_p> luke_: sorry (see above)
[05:43] <aidanr> tim167, more than likely ;)
[05:43] <Enverex> Anyone having an issue with MPlayer just playing MP3s as white noise?
[05:43] <Littlegator> Is it possible to convert batches of .mp3 files to .ogg ?
[05:44] <tim167> aidanr: aaight cool
[05:44] <luke_> Do you then know how I can force ubuntu to load with kernel version 10?
[05:44] <dreckslord> hi dudes my synaptic says me that therse a problem with reading the cached package list what can i do?
[05:44] <arjun> luke_: thats  easy
[05:44] <luke_> eternal_p - thanks. Would you be able to help me find this message?
[05:44] <HymnToLife> dreckslord, apt-get update from a terminal
[05:44] <eternal_p> Littlegator: there is a program to do that...crapp...you can find it in add/remove, give me a minute to remember the name
[05:44] <arjun> luke_: want me to walk you through this?
[05:44] <Littlegator> is it audacity?
[05:44] <tim167> littlegator mplayer does that with the right commands fed to it
[05:45] <Littlegator> oh
[05:45] <eternal_p> Littlegator: I 'believe' so
[05:45] <luke_> that would be great - thanks. How do I just write to you?
[05:45] <dreckslord> HymnToLife
[05:45] <dreckslord> still the same
[05:45] <tim167> Littlegator: Audacity too, but i dont know if /howyou can batch it
[05:45] <Steve^> Is it possible to make a little macro thing (easily), so when I type 1 command, it executes 3 in a row?
[05:45] <HymnToLife> dreckslord, could you pastebin what you get so we see what the exact error is ?
[05:45] <arjun> luke_: 'gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' in a terminal
[05:45] <dreckslord> its german
[05:45] <Enverex> What's the command to force a reinstall through apt-get?
[05:45] <Littlegator> by mplayer do you mean movie player or an app called mplayer?
[05:45] <arjun> luke_: tell me when it opens up
[05:46] <Enverex> Littlegator, mplayer is an app
[05:46] <dreckslord> it is the error number >1<
[05:46] <coNP> Enverex: --reinstall , I  think
[05:46] <Littlegator> k
[05:46] <luke_> it is open
[05:46] <Enverex> coNP, Thanks
[05:46] <arjun> good.
[05:46] <coNP> Enverex: yw
[05:46] <eternal_p> luke_: sorry i'm not too sure where it is, just look in Installation and Upgrading
[05:46] <arjun> luke_: keep scrolling down till you see entries that look something like 'title ...'
[05:47] <LMJ> Got a question : I installed a fresh ubuntu 6.10 on my friend laptop, i play with the Gnome topbar plugin & so on, but somewhere, i desactivated the CPU power management, so the CPU speed never go down to reduce the Power consumption, How can i re-active it  PLZ ?
[05:47] <jexdawg> how do i register my nick?
[05:47] <m00re> i need a ftp server which enables me to "login with a system user account" and "with accounts that come from a mysql table". i tried proftpd, but looks like it can not handle both at the same time. anyone knows a secure ftpd with this ability?
[05:47] <CrakeHunter> if i reboot is everything mounted as usually, even if i manually mounted my cdrom in this session?
[05:47] <mc44> jexdawg: /nickserv register password
[05:47] <arjun> luke_: something like 'title   ubuntu kernel <version>
[05:48] <jexdawg> ty
[05:48] <dreckslord> E: Es ist ein interner Fehler beim ffnen der zwischenspeicherten Paketliste aufgetreten (1): Bitte melden Sie diesen Fehler.
[05:48] <dreckslord> HymnToLife that is what it says
[05:48] <Enverex> coNP, Problem now is that I'm getting: "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[05:48] <Enverex>  field name `      E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)"
[05:48] <luke_> at ubuntu.com ?
[05:49] <dreckslord> is it possible to reinstall synaptics?
[05:49] <jexdawg> do i need to be in irc to do that? (i'm using gaim and it says
[05:49] <jexdawg> No such command.
[05:49] <luke_> eternal: at ubuntu.com - or at another webpage?
[05:49] <sacater> theres a folder in trash called Astronamy Pics, however i dont have permission to delete it, when i look in .Trash i cant see it, where is it?
[05:49] <mc44> jexdawg: /msg nickserv register password
[05:49] <luke_> arjun: i just found it - is says: # title  Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[05:49] <arjun> well.. the # is a commeny
[05:50] <dreckslord> how to reistall synaptics via apt-get?
[05:50] <arjun> *comment
[05:50] <arjun> go further down
[05:50] <arjun> look for a line without a '#'
[05:50] <luke_> Arhun - now I found it: title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-11-generic (recovery mode)
[05:50] <pbureau> sacater, open a terminal sudo rm -R /trash/<directory to remove>
[05:50] <synic> dreckslord: apt-get --reinstall install synaptic
[05:50] <sacater> ty
[05:50] <Littlegator> ..why does rhythmbox only see 1 of my files?
[05:50] <pbureau> ooop sacater, open a terminal sudo rm -r /trash/<directory to remove>
[05:51] <arjun> good. look for the 10 version (which works)
[05:51] <arjun> luke_: one which _isnt_ recovery mode.
[05:52] <luke_> this one? title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-11-generic
[05:52] <dreckslord> it doesn't work synic there is some pkg that want to be reinstalled
[05:52] <dreckslord> but it doesnt find a source
[05:52] <exs> guys, my vmware isn't working for some reason, is there a quick fix?
[05:52] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /trash/Astronamy Pics
[05:52] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/trash/Astronamy': No such file or directory
[05:52] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `Pics': No such file or directory
[05:52] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /trash/Astronamy\ Pics
[05:52] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/trash/Astronamy Pics': No such file or directory
[05:52] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /.trash/Astronamy\ Pics
[05:52] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/.trash/Astronamy Pics': No such file or directory
[05:52] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /.Trash/Astronamy\ Pics
[05:52] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/.Trash/Astronamy Pics': No such file or directory
[05:52] <synic> dreckslord: sounds like your sources.list is jacked.
[05:52] <DiOXiN> My sound does'nt work, I use to enter  chmod /777/dev/dsp*  and then I can use xmms fo
[05:52] <cables> exs, you'll have to be WAY more specific
[05:52] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$
[05:52] <cables> !paste | sacater
[05:52] <ubotu> sacater: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:52] <mc44> !paste | sacater
[05:52] <dreckslord> yes synic it is
[05:52] <arjun> luke_: that is 11. look for 2.6.17.10
[05:52] <assasukasse> hi everyone, i wish to ask a developer to add a driver package in ubuntu, so that i don't have to compile myself, how can i do it?
[05:52] <synic> dreckslord: reinstalling synaptic won't fix that
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[05:52] <exs> cables: it just doesn't launch. it loads for about 10 seconds then doesn't come up
[05:52] <dreckslord> how to fix that synic?
[05:53] <luke_> i found it
[05:53] <luke_> and then what?
[05:53] <sacater> !paste | sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /trash/Astronamy Pics
[05:53] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/trash/Astronamy': No such file or directory
[05:53] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `Pics': No such file or directory
[05:53] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /trash/Astronamy\ Pics
[05:53] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/trash/Astronamy Pics': No such file or directory
[05:53] <ubotu> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /trash/Astronamy Pics: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:53] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /.trash/Astronamy\ Pics
[05:53] <arjun> *2.6.17-10-generic
[05:53] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/.trash/Astronamy Pics': No such file or directory
[05:53] <synic> dreckslord: I can send you mine.
[05:53] <midmood> hi all...  I need some help with my pci tvcard
[05:53] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$ sudo rm -r /.Trash/Astronamy\ Pics
[05:53] <luke_> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:53] <sacater> rm: cannot remove `/.Trash/Astronamy Pics': No such file or directory
[05:53] <synic> sacater: quit it.
[05:53] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$
[05:53] <mc44> sacater: stop pasting to the channel please
[05:53] <cables> exs, I can't help you.. I'm just saying that "VMware doesn't work how do I fix it" isn't a good question
[05:53] <Enverex> Is "/var/lib/dpkg/available" supposed to be entirely plain text?
[05:53] <sacater> hmm
[05:53] <dreckslord> go on
[05:53] <pbureau> sacater, you spelled the directory path correctly?
[05:53] <synic> dreckslord:
[05:53] <dromer> hi, I want to make a startupscript for synergy, but I need the client to start an ssh-session with the server, how can I make this?
[05:53] <synic> http://synic.ath.cx/sources.list
[05:54] <sacater> pbureau: yes
[05:54] <arjun> good. now count starting from the first 'title' till the 'title' corresponding to the kernel you want (namely 2.6.17-10-generic)
[05:54] <toutafai> bonjour
[05:54] <arjun> luke_: its important that you count right. my guess is that it's the third such 'title'
[05:54] <sacater> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5264/
[05:54] <mc44> arjun: might be easier to get him to pastebin it ;p
[05:54] <cables> !fr | toutafai
[05:54] <ubotu> toutafai: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:54] <arjun> (the first two being for 17-11)
[05:55] <luke_> starting from 1 or 0? And you are right, it is the third
[05:55] <arjun> mc44: :) lets do it the hard way. he will learn more!
[05:55] <dreckslord> synic, one more help plz, i dont know the directory of the source.lsit :D
[05:55] <arjun> luke_: amazing! start from 0
[05:55] <cables> dreckslord, /etc/apt/
[05:55] <synic> dreckslord: /etc/apt, and you'll need to run apt-get update after you put it there.
[05:55] <sacater> pbureau: im gonna reboot see if that does anything
[05:55] <arjun> luke_: well. its number 2 ('cos we started with 0)
[05:55] <luke_> it is the third, so it is no 2
[05:56] <luke_> Thanks
[05:56] <luke_> :-)
[05:56] <PiNE> my computer (through network-manager) can recognize my wireless router, and it shows the strenght of the signal but it can never connect.  any ideas how to fix this?
[05:56] <Orhan_TURKEY> BKKDSFHUHJFZTGSKBKBVQQQGHHFDO9IOFGUFHTRYTYLJYTOKRIYTJGHF                                                  VFJHUUFYSRFODRYTSJTRHYFJGR
[05:56] <luke_> And then what?
[05:56] <mc44> Orhan_TURKEY: stop that please
[05:56] <synic> Orhan_TURKEY: grow up.
[05:56] <arjun> now, we need to go up and look for a line that simply says 'default       0'
[05:56] <francesco_> iao ragazzi
[05:56] <francesco_> un aiutino x favore
[05:56] <pbureau> PiNE, do you use WEP/WPAon that router ?
[05:56] <arjun> luke_: go UP. its somewhere near the top of the file.
[05:56] <dreckslord> wow thats a big source-list thanks dude i think it worked
[05:56] <mc44> !it | francesco_
[05:56] <ubotu> francesco_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:57] <luke_> I am going up - is it to "default   0" ?
[05:57] <dromer> I need a script se this will happen everytime I log into ubuntu: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/security.html
[05:57] <arjun> luke_: yes. thats where u got to go.
[05:57] <zsakr> the kernel from ubuntu edgy only boots graphical mode when fglrx modules are isntalled. Anyway around that?
[05:57] <zsakr> anyone?
[05:58] <luke_> and then replace 0 with 2?
[05:58] <arjun> luke_: and change it to 'default        2'
[05:58] <DiOXiN> plz help! I can't play my mp3's in ubuntu, I usually just enter chmod /777/dev/dsp* in the terminal when this happens but now its not working... what do I miss?
[05:58] <arjun> luke_: well. thats it.
[05:58] <luke_> great - thanks
[05:58] <dromer> the server needs to do $ synergys  and the client needs- to open an ssh connection with the server and restart on localhost
[05:58] <arjun> luke_: reboot. enjoy.
[05:58] <luke_> I am so glad, thanks
[05:58] <PiNE> pbureau, no i have turned all the security off.  but my neighbours have theirs turned on and if i try to join it does ask for a password.
[05:58] <Littlegator> how do I convert a batch of .mp3 files to .ogg using mplayer?
[05:58] <jussi01> !restricted
[05:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:58] <dromer> cables: hmm, I have kde ..
[05:58] <zsakr> the kernel from ubuntu edgy only boots graphical mode when fglrx modules are isntalled. Anyway around that?
[05:58] <arjun> luke_: i think you shouldnt be too sure till you actually reboot.
[05:58] <cables> dromer, #kubuntu then
[05:58] <luke_> one more thing - another user said i might be able to read about this problem on the forum. Do you know which forum that is?
[05:59] <arjun> luke_: anything could go wrong ;)
[05:59] <arjun> luke_: yes. ubuntuforum.org i think
[05:59] <dreckslord> synic damn synaptic is still the same 0 pkgs in the list and those two damn errors at startup
[05:59] <suyog> how do i make a command to autorun at startup?
[05:59] <mc44> luke_: ubuntuforums.org
[05:59] <Littlegator> how do I convert a batch of .mp3 files to .ogg using mplayer?
[05:59] <synic> dreckslord: what errors?
[05:59] <Littlegator> >_>
[05:59] <jammer> ok
[06:00] <hbaigu> Littlegator, mplayer con only do one at a time, to use it you have to make a bash/sh script
[06:00] <suyog> someone, please? How do i make a command to autorun at startup?
[06:00] <cables> !startup | suyog
[06:00] <ubotu> suyog: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[06:00] <zsakr> ?
[06:00] <luke_> Thanks
[06:00] <max-_-> hey guys!
[06:00] <Littlegator> well, hgaigu, how would you recommend I make the script?
[06:00] <dreckslord> vritualbox has to be reinstalled but i dont find a pkg and an internal errour occured i cant read the cached source-list
[06:00] <Littlegator> hbaigu*
[06:00] <luke_> I will try to reboot now - Thank you so much for your help
[06:00] <enry183> Epia??
[06:00] <max-_-> I get this when i'm surfing with firefox http://nopaste.masterfrag.de/?109
[06:00] <suyog> no no.... without gnome. I want to load a driver for my modem at startup automatically
[06:00] <synic> dreckslord: run apt-get -f install
[06:00] <cables> dreckslord, do you have a backup sources.list/
[06:00] <gottatrieit> My machine suffered a momentary outage do to a power outage and I can't get synaptic or the updates files to work now. How do I repair this?
[06:00] <enry183> Epia is supported by Linux?
[06:01] <max-_-> any idea? didn't find any bigreport
[06:01] <jammer> Ok, then for WiFi there's no way... I'm still rolling back to windows :(
[06:01] <arjun> luke_: thats alright. hope we edited it right. see you later then.
[06:01] <synic> suyog: put it in /etc/rc.boot, make sure that file is executeable.
[06:01] <synic> suyog: wait, is it a module?
[06:01] <cables> !wifi | jammer
[06:01] <ubotu> jammer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:01] <synic> put it in /etc/modules.
[06:01] <midmood> Trying configurating my tvcard i have generated a crash in kdetv or tvtime when i start them... how can I uninstall them and go back to the original configuration?
[06:01] <cables> jammer, have you looked at this guide?
[06:01] <jammer> cables
[06:01] <jammer> for Travelmate 4400 nothing to do
[06:01] <vlt|home> Hello. There was an update to the package linux-image recently. Where can I find information what has been changed there?
[06:01] <cables> jammer, ok
[06:01] <dreckslord> cables yes i have and it is loaded
[06:01] <dreckslord> synic it says the dont find an archive
[06:02] <suyog> synic: the module autoloads. then i have to type martian_modem --daemon /dev/modem every time i restart my computer
[06:02] <eontasticness-zz> fsck has been running all night, god i hope my data is ok
[06:02] <cables> vlt|home, it's a new version of the kernel...probably just maintenance changes
[06:02] <synic> dreckslord: apt-get remove the package that's complaining then
[06:02] <cables> eontasticness-zz, do you have backups?
[06:02] <synic> suyog: ah, yeah, put it in /etc/rc.boot
[06:02] <suyog> thanks synic
[06:02] <eontasticness-zz> cables: my fileserver is in raid6, one drive died, linux software raid sucks apparently
[06:02] <dreckslord> he says the same if i try to remove it
[06:02] <eontasticness-zz> there are 8 drives in the array
[06:02] <cables> eontasticness-zz, ouch
[06:03] <eontasticness-zz> cables: yeah i woke up to it telling me there was a bad drive in the array and to manually run fsck
[06:03] <eontasticness-zz> on 2.7TB that takes a while
[06:03] <phatrabbit> is Kubuntu with XGL stable ?
[06:03] <dreckslord> might i should reinstall it but he want kernel headers, but i cant install them without synaptics-.- what a devilscircle :D
[06:03] <suyog> synic: /etc/rc.boot does not exist! i'm using edgy, please
[06:03] <synic> suyog: yeah, it doesn't by default.  You need to create it... and remember to chmod +x it.
[06:04] <suyog> i see. thanks synic
[06:04] <vlt|home> cables: Yes, but where can I find details about what has changed? Debian.org, for ex., has a list of all changes available on their site. I want to know how urgent a reboot is ...
[06:04] <LinTux> How can I stop UBUNTU asking me to insert the CD everytime I install new progs
[06:04] <synic> heh, I never reboot when it tells me to.
[06:04] <cables> LinTux, it shouldn't do that
[06:04] <synic> LinTux: remove the cdrom: line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <hbaigu> Littlegator, take you choice, see http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=convert%20ogg%20mp3
[06:04] <phatrabbit> i installed ubuntu on my linux box and connected to the router and i could get straight on the net
[06:04] <eontasticness-zz> i guess i am going to have to get a backup for my backup
[06:04] <phatrabbit> i installed it on my main pc
[06:05] <phatrabbit> and it doesnt connect to the net straight away
[06:05] <dreckslord> synic what can i do know wanna ssh access?
[06:05] <Littlegator> hbaigu: I just got the soundconverter app
[06:05] <phatrabbit> where can i find info on setting my net up on ubuntu
[06:05] <AStorm> Hello.
[06:05] <synic> dreckslord: I can try if that's what you want to do, but I'd recommend against that.
[06:05] <AStorm> Does anyone know where one can get in touch with upstart developers?
[06:05] <eontasticness-zz> AStorm: Hello.
[06:06] <AStorm> (for some questions)
[06:06] <mc44> AStorm: #upstart
[06:06] <dreckslord> mh then help me some other way
[06:06] <AStorm> Ok, thanks
[06:06] <lin> what's the best way for me to play age of empires in linux?
[06:06] <dreckslord> how to install the kernel header files?
[06:06] <lin> i've tried wine but doesn't work
[06:06] <gottatrieit> I've got the update messenger showing on my machine but when I click on it, nothing happens. Why?
[06:06] <suyog> synic: do i need to put #!/bin/sh at the beginning of the line in rc.boot?
[06:06] <eontasticness-zz> lin: i'm not sure if AOE will run in linux...
[06:06] <cables> lin, wine doesn't work for everything. You may have to run Windows in a VM, or just use windows.
[06:06] <Br0eTcHeN`> lin vmware+windows
[06:06] <synic> suyog: I don't think so, but it wouldn't hurt.
[06:07] <lin> thanks guys
[06:07] <phatrabbit> where can i find a guide on setting up the net on ubuntu
[06:07] <cables> lin, it looks like a 2d game so VMware should work
[06:07] <suyog> synic: thanks. i will reboot now. :-)
[06:07] <cables> phatrabbit, it should just work... are you on a DSL modem
[06:07] <Br0eTcHeN`> vmware server console is for free
[06:07] <phatrabbit> yer i am
[06:07] <phatrabbit> it worked fine on my linux box
[06:07] <phatrabbit> didnt have to do anything at all
[06:07] <eontasticness-zz> microsoft made age of empires, fat chance of that working in linux ;) --- but yeah, wine might work
[06:07] <phatrabbit> but i installed it on my main pc
[06:07] <LinTux> synic: Cheers m8, thats that sorted.
[06:07] <cables> !dsl | phatrabbit
[06:07] <ubotu> phatrabbit: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[06:08] <phatrabbit> and its connected straight to the router aswell
[06:08] <eontasticness-zz> err not wine
[06:08] <eontasticness-zz> vmware
[06:08] <lin> vmware server, i'll look for that
[06:08] <phatrabbit> thanks ubotu
[06:08] <cables> eontasticness-zz, lin, it WILL work on VMware... VMware will work with everything windows if it's not 3d.
[06:08] <vlt|home> Where can I find information what has been changed in the latest kernel (security) update?
[06:08] <phatrabbit> oh wait thats a bot :)
[06:08] <cables> phatrabbit, that was me :)
[06:08] <phatrabbit> lol
[06:08] <lin> ok
[06:08] <PwcrLinux> hehe
[06:08] <synic> eontasticness-zz: you can also try cedega
[06:08] <eontasticness-zz> cables: ive run 3D games in Vmware with severe performance problems
[06:08] <dreckslord> hymntolife u still there?
[06:09] <lin> vmware server is free correct?
[06:09] <eontasticness-zz> cables: not 3d, 2d i meant
[06:09] <mc44> lin: yes
[06:09] <OrangeOrange> hey i need mp3 codecs for Amarok. Someone had recommended me to use something like seveas packages... however i dont understand the steps
[06:09] <LinTux> anybody know how to install Nvidia 7300LE graphics card?
[06:09] <cables> eontasticness-zz, really? OK, I guess graphics acceleration just doesn't work...
[06:09] <lin> thanks
[06:09] <OrangeOrange> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages "replace list_of_selection"
[06:09] <cables> !nvidia | LinTux
[06:09] <ubotu> LinTux: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:09] <bcardarella> Where do mail messages get sent to?
[06:09] <TomEstat> Hi everybody ! I'm getting in trouble while trying to get dssi-vst running on an ubuntu 6.10. Anybody wanna try to help me ?
[06:09] <timthelion> hey, how do I set the gnome wm?
[06:09] <synic> !restrictions | OrangeOrange
[06:09] <eontasticness-zz> cables: yeah even with the vmware tools installed, it was a bit laggy on an undemanding game --- i had a geforce 6600 with 256 and the game required 16mb
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <timthelion> Is it an env var like KDEWM=?
[06:10] <LinTux> I have tried that but I cannot seem to stop and restart xserver?
[06:10] <synic> !restrictied | OrangeOrange
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictied - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <synic> !restricted | OrangeOrange
[06:10] <ubotu> OrangeOrange: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:10] <synic> crap.
[06:10] <cables> !multiverse
[06:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:10] <theBishop> is there a utility for managing 2 monitors?
[06:10] <dreckslord> synic is there a way to remove my virtualbox?
[06:10] <mc44> synic: !spellcheck :p
[06:10] <synic> :P
[06:10] <CrakeHunter> hello is it possible to print 2 pages on 1 page?
[06:10] <synic> dreckslord: apt-get --purge remove virtualbox, or try dpkg -P virtualbox
[06:10] <CrakeHunter> i dont see any options in my print settings
[06:11] <cables> CrakeHunter, probably not... LInux printer drivers tend not to be as fancy as Windows ones.
[06:11] <CrakeHunter> okay
[06:11] <dreckslord> lol synic he wants me to reinstall it before deinstall it -.-
[06:11] <LMJ> any idea for my problem ?
[06:12] <synic> dreckslord: what's the package it's failing on?
[06:12] <LinTux> is their a script available for automatically installing Nvidia drivers?
[06:12] <shatrat> LinTux, its called "envy"
[06:12] <cables> LinTux, I can walk you through if you want
[06:12] <Littlegator> Rhythmbox Music Player only sees one of my .ogg files...
[06:12] <sacater> right that problem earlier about copying my home area, i did not use sudo, all the files were still owned by me, with sudo the home folder copy becomes root
[06:12] <shatrat> LinTux, Id recommend using the how-to though
[06:12] <LinTux> cables: go on then
[06:12] <cables> LinTux, it's really quite easy to follow the howto, actually.
[06:12] <dreckslord> virtualbox is similiar to vmware
[06:12] <phatrabbit> cables: i tried sudo pppoeconf in terminal and it found my ethernet, but it says it can not connect
[06:13] <dreckslord> but i cant install it without kernelheaders
[06:13] <phatrabbit> but if i boot in windows the internet works fine
[06:13] <cables> LinTux, just follow that and come back here if you need help with any step
[06:13] <synic> dreckslord: pastebin the error you get from apt-get -f install
[06:13] <dreckslord> the error is in german
[06:13] <dreckslord> can you read that?
[06:13] <LinTux> cables: the prob I have is how do I stop xserver#
[06:13] <synic> heh, no, but pastebin it anyway.
[06:13] <synic> I might be able to decipher it
[06:13] <cables> LinTux, you've already gone through everything?
[06:13] <shatrat> LinTux,  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:13] <dreckslord> E: Das Paket virtualbox muss reinstalliert werden, ich kann aber kein Archiv dafr finden.
[06:13] <cables> LinTux, if that doesn't work, just reboot...
[06:14] <synic> dreckslord: no, pastebin the whole error.
[06:14] <synic> not in here, in  a pastebin.
[06:14] <OrangeOrange> wat mp3 codec should i install for Amarok?
[06:14] <dreckslord> that was the whole error
[06:14] <cables> !paste | dreckslord
[06:14] <ubotu> dreckslord: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <dreckslord> i know what a pastebin is
[06:14] <shatrat> dreckslord, how did you install it? from a downloaded .deb or something?
[06:14] <[BTF] Chm0d> LinTux: ctrl-alt-f1 login and at console type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:14] <dreckslord> shatrat yes
[06:15] <quaal> i sure love being able to press delete on a file and it going straight to the trashbin. no are you sure you want to delete this file? bullshit
[06:15] <phatrabbit> how do u get back to your desktop after ctrl-alt f1
[06:15] <shatrat> dreckslord, well, apparently some dependency is broken.  I think you should apt-get remove it and then try and reinstall, hopefully from a repository so it can get updates
[06:15] <synic> phatrabbit: ctrl alt f7
[06:15] <phatrabbit> ta
[06:16] <salotti> where can I change the "new user" default model???? keyboard layout, wallpaper... etc....
[06:16] <Dr_willis> quaal,  I perfer things to actually delete. No Trashcan BS.
[06:16] <dreckslord> shatrat he wont remove it untill i reinstall it
[06:16] <timthelion> how can I set the gnome window manager?
[06:16] <quaal> Dr_willis, some things i like to find again later
[06:16] <Dr_willis> timthelion,  'set' what?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> quaal,  the trashcan does cause some issues with removeable media. and if mounting nfs/samba shares.. sucks when you delete a 5gb file and it 'moves' it to the local trashcan..
[06:17] <dreckslord> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5267/ synic
[06:17] <PwcrLinux> Dr_willis: I moved the libflashplayer.so to backup folder and I ran FF work prefectly
[06:17] <richard> 50$ to anyone who can solve my s-video out problem
[06:17] <quaal> Dr_willis, problems with removeable media? like what
[06:17] <Dr_willis> richard,  and the problem is?
[06:17] <quaal> i actually dont have any removeable media that isnt read only
[06:17] <synic> dreckslord: what does that error message mean?  "no installation candidate"?
[06:17] <quaal> so i think i'm ok for now
[06:17] <richard> Dr_willis, it doesnt work (GMA 950, laptop)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> quaal,  moving stuff to the trashcan dir and NOT deleting things..     THEN you wonder where the space went.
[06:18] <quaal> oh. right
[06:18] <Dr_willis> richard, ' it dosent work' wow. :)
[06:18] <dreckslord> yes something like that he couldnt find a archiv (or a package)
[06:18] <richard> Dr_willis, :)
[06:18] <mark_> you can bypass the trashcan and have it delete straight away
[06:18] <andre> hey folks
[06:18] <richard> Dr_willis, really though - I can't find any kind of documentation
[06:18] <shatrat> dreckslord, try reading this, perhaps it will solve your problem.  and its not 'he' it is 'it' ;)  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344124
[06:18] <synic> dreckslord: ok, pastebin the error you get if you type apt-get install gajim
[06:18] <richard> Dr_willis, Intel GMA950
[06:19] <richard> Dr_willis, vga out works fine, but the s-video port seems to be dead
[06:19] <dreckslord> exactly the same error synic
[06:19] <Dr_willis> richard,  cant help ya there. never used a intel based video card/chipset at this time. There is a ubuntu wiki/forum for laptops.. and several laptop linux sites.  the s-video does work under 'other' os's ?
[06:20] <richard> Dr_willis, havent tried, I put ubuntu on it as soon as I got my hands on it (a couple of weeks ago)
[06:20] <Dr_willis> richard,  i have seen where the svideo conector needs to be hooked up at boot time (in some cases) for X/video drivers to see it.
[06:20] <andre> hey guys, I've got an issue with the nvidia binaries,  everytime I reboot I have to reinstall the driver... anyone know how to fix this?  I know that it is a known bug.
[06:20] <synic> hah, ^5 richard
[06:20] <gottatrieit> My system is apparently corrupted. I cannot load Synaptic nor update manager. Please help.
[06:20] <dreckslord> shatrat yeah you'Re right thats because he says to "itself" I so i personallized that to much
[06:20] <Dr_willis> richard,  its possible the svideo out IS broke. :) but a bit hard to prove that.
[06:20] <shatrat> andre, are you usinga different kernel every time you reboot?
[06:20] <phatrabbit> is beryl easy to uninstall once you have installed it
[06:20] <richard> I guess so... will keep on looking
[06:21] <synic> phatrabbit: yes.
[06:21] <phatrabbit> ok here goes
[06:21] <andre> shatrat: nope same kernel everytime
[06:21] <dreckslord> shatrat yeah thats exactly my problem oO
[06:21] <tier> hello, i need help with a rv350 9600/9700 m10
[06:21] <andre> phatrabbit: if you are using synaptic it's painless
[06:22] <tier> the proprietary driver doesnt work
[06:22] <shatrat> tier, the open source one should work on that
[06:22] <gottatrieit> I have the update icon showint in my sys tray, but I cannot connect. Why?
[06:22] <synic> tier: "doesn't work" is *never* a good description of the problem.
[06:22] <Littlegator> How do I open synaptic?
[06:23] <pal32i> i'm having issues when i play quicktime video files in vlc - videos are all messed up
[06:23] <synic> Littlegator: one method:  alt+f2, type synaptic
[06:23] <tier> synic i can post the logs, but is there enough space in the forum?
[06:23] <synic> tier: use a pastebin
[06:23] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  some of the servers are overloaded at this time.. may want ty try again later/tomorrow
[06:23] <ikonia> Littlegator: its on the applications menu
[06:23] <Littlegator> I did that, but it says I don't have admin privelages
[06:23] <tier> how do i use that?
[06:23] <grimboy> Littlegator, Have you typed your password where it asked you to?
[06:23] <synic> tier: http://rafb.net/paste
[06:23] <synic> paste it, and give the url
[06:24] <Littlegator> it didn't ask me...
[06:24] <grimboy> Littlegator, Or are you on somebody else's machine?
[06:24] <Mandrill> I have an 80gb drive mounted in my filesystem. I have ownership and read/write permissions. There are currently approx 5gb of data on the drive. I'm trying to copy a 21gb folder from another drive to this drive but it keeps telling me theres not enough space. Is there some strange way that Ubuntu thinks about empty hdd space or am I missing something obvious?
[06:24] <ikonia> Littlegator: it didn't ask your for a password ?
[06:24] <Littlegator> no
[06:24] <grimboy> Littlegator, Because if so you'll have to get them to install everything.
[06:24] <tier> synic this is nice
[06:24] <gottatrieit> Dr_willis: I have tried since yesterday, the screen doesn't open. Also, synaptic won't open. I had a quick power outage that I think may have fouled my system.
[06:24] <grimboy> Littlegator, Or ask them to put you on the 'sudoers list'.
[06:24] <PwcrLinux> pal32i: does your system spikes CPU at 100?
[06:24] <Littlegator> grimboy: It didn't ask me for a password
[06:24] <tier> shatrat, do u have a rv350?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  ugh. may want to boot a live cd. and fsck the drives to verify they are all 'ok'
[06:25] <pal32i> i dont know how to check that
[06:25] <shatrat> tier, I used to have.  I havent used it in a year or so though
[06:25] <ikonia> Littlegator: have you tried launching it from the "applications" menu
[06:25] <grimboy> Littlegator, Yeah, but is the computer you are talking about yours?
[06:25] <Littlegator> grimboy: yes
[06:25] <PwcrLinux> pal32i: like program very slow and lagging, does the video plays choppy?
[06:25] <grimboy> Littlegator, Did you install it?
[06:25] <Littlegator> ikonia: I'm not sure where it is...
[06:25] <grimboy> Littlegator, Are you using the first user?
[06:25] <pal32i> its all pixelated
[06:25] <gottatrieit> I upgraded from Badger to Dapper over the internet, can I use the Badger cd to do this?
[06:25] <grimboy> Littlegator, Or another user you created?
[06:25] <sandro__> hi
[06:25] <ikonia> Littlegator: your REALLY starting to get on my nerves by not looking for anything yourself
[06:25] <salotti> How to change the default keyboard layout for new users?????
[06:25] <Littlegator> grimboy: I am using the only user
[06:26] <tier> shatrat i would like to have xgl,running. not that i real need it.
[06:26] <grimboy> Littlegator, Ok, just checking.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  i dont even rember what the badgercd can do.. you really should track down a newer livecd.
[06:26] <grimboy> Littlegator, Open a terminal.
[06:26] <salotti> Where is the model ubuntu uses to create new users ??
[06:26] <ikonia> Littlegator: system --> Administration ---> synaptic
[06:26] <andre> hey guys, I've got an issue with the nvidia binaries,  everytime I reboot I have to reinstall the driver... anyone know how to fix this?  I know that it is a known bug.
[06:26] <Littlegator> ikonia: I don't really know where to look for this, and it would be less hassle to look it up on google than ask you people who are here to help
[06:26] <tier> shatrat should i use the open source driver fopr rv350?
[06:26] <ikonia> Littlegator: look on the ubuntu forums and wikis
[06:27] <ikonia> your REALLY becoming a pain in the neck
[06:27] <shatrat> tier, check the how-to posted in the topic of #ubuntu-effects, you shouldnt need XGL or FGLRX
[06:27] <PwcrLinux> pal32i: yea, it's choppy.. I guess the kernel, I had update still laggy when I run a program to play DVD and FF browser get slow and laggy.. I noticed the CPU spiked at 100
[06:27] <Littlegator> or I could just ask a simple question...
[06:27] <gottatrieit> Dr_willis: Can this be performed from terminal?
[06:27] <ikonia> or you could learn to do a bit for yourself
[06:27] <ikonia> I'm all for helping but you are the most lazy person
[06:27] <pal32i> what can  i do?
[06:27] <Littlegator> ikonia: okay stop talking
[06:27] <ikonia> you can't even be bothered looking down a lit s of menus
[06:27] <ikonia> and you've totally missed that I told you the exact menu where to look
[06:27] <salotti> How to change the default keyboard layout for new users?????
[06:27] <synic> light a man a fire, keep him warm for the night.  Light a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.
[06:27] <grimboy> Littlegator, Have you tried opening synaptic through the menu?
[06:27] <tier> shatrat thanks for the help
[06:27] <gottatrieit> Dr_willis: fsck, I mean.
[06:27] <synic> er.. that's not the one.
[06:27] <daviey> Hi, does anybody have a problem of video having a tint of blue using fglrx ATI driver?
[06:28] <Littlegator> ikonia: synaptic is open, I don't need that
[06:28] <PwcrLinux> pal32i: I am waiting for kernel get updated to get better performance..
[06:28] <Littlegator> grimboy: yes, and it didn't prompt me for a password
[06:28] <ikonia> then why did you ask for it ?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  fscking from a system you booted from/with mounted filesystems. is not a good idea.  thus the need for a live cd.
[06:28] <grimboy> Littlegator, Can you open a terminal please?
[06:28] <Littlegator> ikonia: Because it wasn't open, but I got it open thanks to grimboy
[06:28] <synic> Littlegator: in a terminal, what happens if you type sudo apt-get update?
[06:28] <pal32i> is there any other program I can use to play .mp4 or .mov
[06:28] <grimboy> Littlegator, Then type 'sudo ls'
[06:28] <Mandrill> I have an 80gb drive mounted in my filesystem. I have ownership and read/write permissions. There are currently approx 5gb of data on the drive. I'm trying to copy a 21gb folder from another drive to this drive but it keeps telling me theres not enough space. Is there some strange way that Ubuntu thinks about empty hdd space or am I missing something obvious?
[06:28] <dreckslord> someone know a good how-to how to create a kernel module ?
[06:28] <gottatrieit> ok, ty, Dr_willis.
[06:28] <ikonia> Littlegator: launching it through the menu is different than alt+f2
[06:28] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  i got a stack of little live cds i keep for just such an emergancy. I boot them, use fsck /dev/whatever as needed (rarely ever need to do this) but yours is a special case
[06:28] <ikonia> hence why I'm telling to launch it through the menu
[06:29] <Littlegator> and nothing different happened through the menu
[06:29] <synic> Littlegator: did you do it?
[06:29] <grimboy> daviey, Have you tried adjusting your monitor settings? Specifically try changing the temperature.
[06:29] <Littlegator> grimboy, it just says desktop examples
[06:29] <Littlegator> system > administration > synaptic
[06:29] <daviey> grimboy, it's a laptop
[06:29] <grimboy> Littlegator, But did it ask you for a password?
[06:29] <gottatrieit> Dr_willis: can I download a live cd from the internet or do I have to find an outside source to order/purchase one?
[06:29] <hotti> how to repair nvidia drivers after kernel-upgrade?
[06:29] <Littlegator> grimboy yes
[06:30] <ikonia> Littlegator: then why did you say it didn't ask you for a password ?
[06:30] <dyknicke> I have a strange problem with Ubuntu.. May computer won't turn off when I choose to "shut down"
[06:30] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  theres 100's of them you can download.
[06:30] <dyknicke> Fist I must log out, then shut off
[06:30] <synic> ikonia: ok, not only is Littlegator unable to help himself, but he won't let others help him.
[06:30] <Littlegator> ikonia: wtf
[06:30] <ikonia> synic: I know this
[06:30] <ikonia> language
[06:30] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  may want to check out 'slax' or 'puppylinux' or 'dsl'  live cd's
[06:30] <Littlegator> What are you guys talking about? =.=
[06:30] <Dr_willis> gottatrieit,  plus theres the official ubuntu live cd's
[06:30] <synic> Littlegator: why are you ignoring?
[06:31] <madar> Anyone dealing with the following? nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9742
[06:31] <grimboy> Littlegator, ok, try typing in the terminal sudo synaptic.
[06:31] <madar> after dist upgrade last night
[06:31] <sandro__> I have a problem with freeradius-sql it works locally but not from the access point, take a look there http://pastebin.ca/350701
[06:31] <grimboy> Littlegator, What happens now?
[06:31] <phatrabbit> /etc/apt$ vi sources.list
[06:31] <dreckslord> synic am i required to compile my kernel?
[06:31] <hotti> how can i reinstall nvidia drivers after automatic kernel-upgrade?
[06:31] <synic> dreckslord: never.
[06:31] <Littlegator> it opened synaptic without the admin prompt
[06:31] <phatrabbit> it wont let me add liens to my sourcelist
[06:31] <gottatrieit> Ok. Thanks again. Live ubuntu cd's would be at the support sight someplace? Yes? (Only a newbie would ask, right? lol )
[06:31] <synic> dreckslord: unless you need a special driver or something.
[06:31] <phatrabbit> any ideas ?
[06:32] <dreckslord> synic ok
[06:32] <name> which device is the PS/2 keyboard
[06:32] <phatrabbit> should i just change the permissions to chmod 775
[06:32] <jussi01> hei all, im trying to ompile a program, and make is giving me this: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:32] <ikonia> jussi01: have you configured it
[06:32] <dreckslord> name your keyboard/tastatur
[06:32] <grimboy> daviey, Hmm... have you tried searching for an adjustment program using synaptic?
[06:33] <jussi01> no, instructions said just type ake, then make install
[06:33] <grimboy> Littlegator, Ok, now it's working.
[06:33] <name> dreckslord: name it?
[06:33] <Littlegator> grimboy: thank you
[06:33] <ikonia> jussi01: I suggest thats wrong or you have to do a make -F makefile
[06:33] <hjmills> jussi01, you mean make?
[06:33] <dreckslord> synic yeah i solved my problem and successfully installed virtualbox
[06:33] <daviey> grimboy, didn't know what to search for:(
[06:33] <iveqy> hi, I wonder how to change (delete) the update and the mail icon in the upper toolbar.
[06:33] <phatrabbit> oh ic
[06:33] <iveqy> the thing is that I need to do it manually in a textfile to be able to distribute this change in my skel profile
[06:33] <phatrabbit> u gotta sudo
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> !u
[06:34] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[06:34] <dreckslord> thanks for your help synic/shatret
[06:34] <bulmer> is there anything special about a laptop harddrive with a 44 pin to 40 pin converter, connected now as primary drive, installed linux on it, but I can not boot from it
[06:34] <gottatrieit> Dr_willis: Thanks again for your help. Have a good day. bye all
[06:34] <Dr_willis> ok
[06:34] <pal32i> is there any task manager in ubuntu
[06:34] <ikonia> bulmer: does it have a boot loader on  ?
[06:34] <PwcrLinux> bulmer: search on google,  "IDE adapter for laptop hard drive"
[06:35] <ikonia> bulmer: I suspect not if it was not always connected as your primary during the install
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun?  those crazy dutch
[06:35] <lubos> hello so i have installed g++ but now when i will compile app just with cout << nothing will show up
[06:35] <bulmer> ikonia: i just installed the linux on it, and yes it seems it does have a boot loader on it, from fdisk it from a liveCD
[06:35] <VividHazE> hey guys, probably simple question but i'm clueless, what command do I type in to find my IP Address?
[06:35] <jussi01> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5273/
[06:35] <Xenguy> VividHazE: ifconfig
[06:35] <ikonia> bulmer: install grub on to it
[06:35] <VividHazE> Xenguy: I've used that, what is it called? is it the inet addr?
[06:35] <capt-rogers> System>Administration>Login. to change those weird ubuntu login restrictions...or 'sudo bash' whatever floats your boat.
[06:35] <grimboy> daviey, Don't know then. My laptop's chipset is i910 so searching for that gets me an adjustment program. The only other thing I can think of is if you have a cable inside the laptop lose or you can adjust stuff in windows if you have that dual booted.
[06:35] <ikonia> jussi01: show me the dir your are typing make from
[06:36] <ikonia> as in the name of the dir
[06:36] <bulmer> ikonia: i thought I have done it via the rescue, but I will try again..
[06:36] <pal32i> ls
[06:36] <Xenguy> VividHazE: inet addr
[06:36] <ikonia> bulmer: doesn't look like it
[06:36] <jussi01> gsopcast-0.2.10
[06:36] <VividHazE> Xenguy: If i'm using DHCP does it matter? I mean does DHCP mean I don't have a static IP?
[06:36] <jussi01> jussi@jussi-laptop:~/gsopcast-0.2.10$ make
[06:36] <jussi01> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:36] <hbaigu> lubos, did you put a newline '\n'?
[06:36] <daviey> grimboy, okay thanks... i '' have a look; no windows :(
[06:37] <ikonia> jussi01: can you please do an "ls Makefile" in that dir please
[06:37] <bulmer> ikonia: would this message at boot (the only message before it hangs)  "Booting from Harddisk" indicates it has grub or non?
[06:37] <ikonia> bulmer: no - thats just your bios
[06:37] <lubos> hbaigu:i have putted std::endl;
[06:37] <Xenguy> VividHazE: static IP's mean the same IP is always assigned; DHCP (dynamic) means that the assigned IP changes sometimes
[06:37] <jussi01> ikonia: jussi@jussi-laptop:~/gsopcast-0.2.10$ ls Makefile
[06:37] <jussi01> ls: Makefile: No such file or directory
[06:37] <bulmer> ikonia: okay..ill rescue and run grub-install
[06:37] <ikonia> jussi01: there is no make file
[06:38] <GameSpy> Moro
[06:38] <VividHazE> Xenguy: Ok thanks man:)
[06:38] <Xenguy> VividHazE: yw
[06:38] <Mandrill> how do you change to a directory which has a space in the name from the terminal?
[06:38] <jussi01> ikonia:ok, how do I compile then?
[06:38] <hbaigu> lubos, can you pastebin your source code
[06:38] <bulmer> Mandrill: use " "
[06:38] <ikonia> Mandrill: use an escape char (\)
[06:38] <GameSpy> Hey
[06:38] <psyron> can someone tell me how to enable remote desktop from the terminal? i have a headless box with only ssh access atm...
[06:38] <yommb> mandrill : or\ use\ this\  !
[06:38] <ikonia> jussi01: well you need the make file, but this isn't an ubuntu problem
[06:38] <jussi01> hmmm...ok
[06:38] <Mandrill> nice thnx guys
[06:39] <jussi01> so where do you think I should ask?
[06:39] <dreckslord> mv directory\ with\ space :)
[06:39] <ikonia> jussi01: the application owner
[06:39] <bulmer> psyron: when you say headless, you meant there are no X running on that remote or just no monitor?
[06:39] <Littlegator> How do I add a line to sources.list (for beryl) when sources.list is read-only?
[06:39] <jussi01> thanks...
[06:39] <psyron> no monitor
[06:39] <dreckslord> littlegator do sudo
[06:39] <ikonia> Littlegator: its not read only
[06:39] <Music_Shuffle> !gksudo | Littlegator
[06:39] <ubotu> Littlegator: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[06:39] <ikonia> your not reading the basics
[06:40] <dreckslord> sudo "your editor" source.list
[06:40] <lubos> hbaigu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5276/
[06:40] <ikonia> Littlegator: PLEASE read the basics
[06:40] <Littlegator> ikonia: I get it, okay? Stop talking
[06:40] <ikonia> or use the wiki or the forums before wanting spoon feeding
[06:40] <AmaroqWolf> When I do gedit, I never do gksudo. xD I just do sudo.
[06:40] <oxigen> hi where can i find repository with a new Inkscape (0.45)?
[06:40] <ikonia> Littlegator: its clear your don't get it as you keep asking
[06:40] <dreckslord> wiki is down ikonia
[06:40] <bulmer> psyron: you need to prefix your response to whomever you are responding to
[06:40] <ikonia> dreckslord: it was ok earlier
[06:41] <psyron> bulmer: ok soz
[06:41] <Littlegator> well that's too bad
[06:41] <Music_Shuffle> AmaroqWolf, same, but apparently, we're not supposed to transfer our bad habits to others :P
[06:41] <duckvenge> hi all, what is the diff between the alternate and server install CD ?
[06:41] <AmaroqWolf> Music_Shuffle: :P
[06:41] <bulmer> psyron  ssh in with -X option
[06:41] <ikonia> dreckslord: its up
[06:41] <ikonia> Littlegator: the wiki is up - you can use it
[06:41] <dreckslord> yeah i tryed it 2 times a few time ago but it has an internal server error
[06:41] <jussi01> ikonia: there is a Makefile.am and Makefile.in in the directory though...
[06:41] <Music_Shuffle> dreckslord, wiki is very much up.
[06:41] <ikonia> jussi01: is there a ocnfiugre script
[06:41] <ikonia> configure script
[06:41] <dreckslord> oO
[06:41] <jussi01> yes... file called configure
[06:41] <dreckslord> my browser says em internal server error
[06:41] <dreckslord> wtf oO
[06:42] <ikonia> jussi01: the instructions are rubbish
[06:42] <psyron> bulmer: ok now what?
[06:42] <hbaigu> lubos, it works fine for me in a terminal, are you using some ide?
[06:42] <AmaroqWolf> Music_Shuffle: We can just let them develop our bad habbits on their own. xD
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> Indeed ^^
[06:42] <jussi01> ok, so what do I  need to do?
[06:42] <dreckslord> u sure Music_Shuffle that u aren't surfing in cache? i get error 500 wtf!?!
[06:42] <bulmer> psyron what have you typed so far?
[06:42] <lubos> hbaigu: thanks for your help, so its problem in code::blocks ide :o
[06:43] <cbx33> does ubutnu handle rewirtable cd discs?
[06:43] <Music_Shuffle> dreckslord, I'm very sure. Lol.
[06:43] <phatrabbit> does anyone knw what that mac tool bar add on is called
[06:43] <cbx33> I have just put one in but it won't delete the adta
[06:43] <cbx33> data
[06:43] <OrangeOrange> hey guys.. i got some japanese songs... when i browse my folder i see the kanji or character correctly... however playing it in the mediaplayer amarok.....display it coreclty
[06:43] <OrangeOrange> help?
[06:43] <cbx33> it's mounted inro mode
[06:43] <cbx33> do i need a special peice of softweare to use it?
[06:43] <dreckslord> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5277/
[06:44] <ikonia> jussi01: you need to contact the developers and ask them to update their instructions
[06:44] <psyron> bulmer: ssh -X *remotebox*
[06:44] <dreckslord> i need a whisky thats to much for me
[06:44] <bulmer> psyron:  specify the user like so   ssh -X -l usename remotebox
[06:44] <oxigen> hey, how can i get .deb from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/graphics/inkscape
[06:44] <oxigen> ?
[06:45] <bulmer> psyron and make sure you add the remote box to your local display
[06:45] <the1337djs> Can anyone walk me throught the installation for CEDEGA by Transgaming?
[06:45] <bulmer> psyron if it fails, please google for ssh remotely with graphics
[06:45] <infidel> !aac
[06:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <ikonia> the1337djs: there is a wiki page on it
[06:46] <lubos> oxigen:download inkspace->i386(me)
[06:46] <the1337djs> ikonia: Kay, tthanks ill check it out
[06:46] <psyron> bulmer: ok thanks
[06:47] <AmaroqWolf> oxigen, if it's in your repository listings, you can just apt-get install it. If not, you can add the repository and apt-get it, or you can just downlod the .deb and install it via dpkg.
[06:47] <larson9999> is virtualbox good enough i should quit using qemu in lui of it?
[06:47] <robi1> is apt-get the same as synaptic package manager?
[06:47] <hbaigu> lubos, i don't know code::blocks, but some ides first you to compile then you have to choose to run it
[06:47] <oxigen> AmaroqWolf & lubos, yes thanks i found it
[06:47] <ikonia> larson9999: thats personal opinion
[06:47] <AmaroqWolf> robi1 synaptic is a graphical interface for apt-get
[06:47] <larson9999> ikonia: and what's yours?
[06:47] <infidel> anyone know how to convert mp3 to aac?
[06:47] <ikonia> I don't like either
[06:48] <webben> how can you apt-get download to a current directory?
[06:48] <robi1> AmaroqWolf: ok ty, thats what i figured
[06:48] <webben> (note I want the debs not the source)
[06:48] <larson9999> ikonia: what do you like?
[06:48] <NABIL_X> yo tt le monde
[06:48] <ikonia> larson9999: for what
[06:48] <barktpolar> Question, Is there a alsaconf for Ubuntu
[06:48] <AmaroqWolf> robi1: You're welcome. ^^
[06:48] <ikonia> barktpolar: yup
[06:48] <larson9999> ikonia: errr, what you'd qemu or virtual box for
[06:49] <bulmer> barktpolar: you can verify if it exist,  locate alsaconf
[06:49] <AmaroqWolf> barktpolar: alsaconf, as in alsamixer?
[06:49] <barktpolar> Yeah, cause I'm trying to configure my old sound card, but I only have alsa-base and alsa-utils
[06:49] <the1337djs> ikonia: Cant seem to find installtion help
[06:49] <barktpolar> no as in alsaconf'
[06:49] <ikonia> larson9999: nothing
[06:49] <AmaroqWolf> barktpolar: ah, I'm not familiar with that.
[06:49] <seiken> how can i see how much space is left on my harddrive ?
[06:49] <qid> seiken: df -h
[06:49] <ikonia> seiken: right click on it or use df
[06:49] <seiken> thanks
[06:49] <KohlInGA> does anyone know where I can find the Ubuntu pictorial installation guide?
[06:50] <OrangeOrange> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:50] <robi1> KohlInGA: im in the livecd right now installing. its 6 steps... pretty easy really.
[06:50] <barktpolar> It's a type of program that helps configure your sound card
[06:50] <qid> although... strangely, df -h does not show a / or /home mount point
[06:50] <ikonia> the1337djs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega#head-ef048728dd3a8751ca64277052178fdb2ee07184
[06:50] <larson9999> ikonia: errr, thanks!
[06:50] <juano__> how can i open a torrent with another torrent client resuming whats already been downloaded with the old client ?
[06:50] <OrangeOrange> hey guys
[06:50] <qid> that doesn't seem right
[06:50] <bulmer> qid  try  fdisk -l
[06:51] <OrangeOrange> help me... i got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5278/
[06:51] <zsakrr> the new kernel from ubuntu edgy only boots to graphical mode when fglrx modules are isntalled, i recently upgraded to edgy.
[06:51] <ikonia> qid: are you running of a livecd ?
[06:51] <zsakrr> is there any way to use ati drivers from the ubuntu repository?
[06:51] <qid> bulmer: no results
[06:51] <qid> ikonia: no
[06:51] <mytruehero> Is there any way that I can alt-tab between workspaces the way I alt-tab between applications?
[06:51] <ikonia> !ati >zsakrr
[06:51] <petriborg> anyone have an account on www.gnome-look.org or kde-look.org etc ?
[06:51] <bulmer> qid: try fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:51] <juano__> OrangeOrange: sudo apt-get update
[06:51] <ikonia> qid: df should show all mount points
[06:51] <robi1> !ati > robi1
[06:51] <KohlInGA> robi1  I saw won a little while ago but forgot but didn't saved now I have a friend in Canada who it could really help
[06:52] <AmaroqWolf> mytruehero ctrl+alt+left or ctrl+alt+right arrows
[06:52] <phatrabbit> how can i find my gateway address
[06:52] <phatrabbit> in terminal
[06:52] <the1337djs> ikonia: dpkg: error processing cedega_[5.2] .deb (--install):
[06:52] <the1337djs>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:52] <the1337djs> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:52] <the1337djs>  cedega_[5.2] .deb
[06:52] <robi1> ifconfig i think phatrabbit
[06:52] <Littlegator>  I'm confused when installing beryl, the wiki tells me to add something to the device section of xorg.conf, but xorg.conf is blank unless I typed it wrong in the terminal...
[06:52] <psyron> bulmer: perhaps i should elaborate... i had remote desktop working until i left out one command (depmod -a) when installing some graphics drivers, and now i can't log in (im using tightvnc in windows)
[06:52] <bulmer> phatrabbit:  netstat -ran
[06:52] <arnducky> phatrabbit: ifconfig
[06:52] <phatrabbit> thats windows ?
[06:52] <qid> bulmer: I have hda1, 2, and 5
[06:52] <nicobrain> hi @all
[06:53] <ikonia> the1337djs: does that file exist ?
[06:53] <arnducky> no 'ipconfig' is winDoh!s
[06:53] <robi1> iP config is windows.... iF config = linux
[06:53] <robi1> ifconfig
[06:53] <qid> mount also does not show anything mounted at /
[06:53] <hbaigu> juano__, get again the .torrent file and choose the save to the save location as the one you want to resume
[06:53] <nicobrain> is hier jemand der deutsch schreibt???
[06:53] <the1337djs> ikonia: yes, along with many other formats
[06:53] <psyron> bulmer, so basically im trying to fix it from the terminal but im having no luck
[06:53] <mytruehero> AmaroqWolf: That's not quite what I'd like to do. I want to set alt+caps lock to cycle through all of my workspaces. I can figure out how to set it to move to the workspace to the right, or move to the workspace to the left, but not how to get it to cycle through all of them continuously. Is there a way to do that?
[06:53] <phatrabbit> ic ta
[06:53] <bulmer> psyron you may need to visit the remote host and connect a crt to get a view of what is going on
[06:53] <Zta> I want my Ubuntu to automatically copy the file from a CF card to a directory, when the CF card is inserted.  What's the best approach to do this?  pcmcia event handler script?  Perhaps combined with auto mount?
[06:54] <KohlInGA> The hunt continues!  Thanks for trying to help, robi1
[06:54] <arnducky> netstat -ran displays your routing table which works too
[06:54] <yommb> mytruehero : I think xbindkeys could do the job !
[06:54] <AmaroqWolf> mytruehero: I have no idea. xD
[06:54] <bulmer> qid and what do you get when you do   fdisk -l /dev/hda ?
[06:54] <robi1> heh :)
[06:54] <RallyMonkey> Anyone have any idea with this? When I try to boot up my system, it attempts to boot the kernel, and then gives this error
[06:54] <nicobrain> hello, i'am an linux newbie and want to know: how can i remove the desktop icons??
[06:55] <OrangeOrange> juano__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5279/ after running sudo apt-get update......... i even did it multiple times... so... wat shud i do next?
[06:55] <jrib> !icons | nicobrain
[06:55] <ubotu> nicobrain: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[06:55] <assasukasse> i have a problem with edgy, bootup is very slow and even gnome terminal takes good 20 secs to pop up
[06:55] <OrangeOrange> !fonts
[06:55] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:55] <RallyMonkey> "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown block(0,0)
[06:55] <qid> bulmer: it shows three partitions, hda1, 2, and 5
[06:55] <quaal> man
[06:55] <nicobrain> thx ubotu
[06:55] <quaal> i just installed banshee
[06:55] <bulmer> qid: you were just looking for its size right?
[06:55] <echosyp> anyone here live in texas? and use cox as ISP
[06:55] <quaal> and imported all my music to it
[06:55] <robi1> is there an actual ROOT user account in ubuntu? i need some info on the sudo / root thing cause im confused by it
[06:55] <RallyMonkey> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:55] <quaal> this shit sucks
[06:55] <quaal> its freezing like nonstop
[06:55] <ikonia> language !
[06:55] <quaal> or hanging
[06:55] <juano__> hbaigu: aah ok ill try that
[06:55] <quaal> is there a program thats not as shitty as banshee
[06:56] <ikonia> !language >quaal
[06:56] <mytruehero> yommb: Using xbindkeys, what should I bind alt+caps lock to in order to get the functionality I'm after?
[06:56] <qid> bulmer: I suppose, mostly just curious why nothing shows up in df -h or mount
[06:56] <ikonia> quaal: I don't need to see that language
[06:56] <echosyp> i do
[06:56] <the1337djs>  ikonia: Its an archive though. debian archive
[06:56] <quaal> ikonia, grow up.
[06:56] <juano__> OrangeOrange: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <bulmer> qid: i dont know..reboot and see if it recovers
[06:56] <juano__> OrangeOrange: paste me that please
[06:56] <ikonia> quaal: I'm fine - I just don't need to see bad language
[06:56] <echosyp> its only bad cause you were conditioned to think it is
[06:57] <ikonia> no - because its a rude word
[06:57] <quaal> "bad language" is only your false construct of social conditioning
[06:57] <echosyp> good and bad are opinioins
[06:57] <qid> bulmer: that sounds like a Windows solution :-\
[06:57] <quaal> thank you echosyp
[06:57] <OrangeOrange> juano__:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5281/
[06:57] <ikonia> and the policy of this channel is no rude words
[06:57] <ikonia> if you don't like it - don't participate
[06:57] <bulmer> qid: no, sometimes you must..you just started didnt you?
[06:57] <peace-keeper> bad language keeps the internet healthy
[06:57] <OrangeOrange> juano__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5281/
[06:57] <yommb> mytruehero : xbindkeys converts keystrokes & key-combinations to terminal commands ; if you find out the ( wm ) command for switching workspaces , then you should be there , no ?
[06:57] <quaal> it was not directed at you, therefore you have no reason to be offended.
[06:57] <jrib> nicobrain: in gconf-editor, nautilus has a "show_desktop" option under /preferences/.  If you disable taht , you won't see any more icons
[06:57] <echosyp> you can't define "rude language" because its different to everyone
[06:57] <mborg> why doesn't the mysqldump command in edgy work?
[06:58] <juano__> OrangeOrange: k let me check
[06:58] <qid> quaal: see, if this was a public commons, you would have the right to say "bad words", but this isn't, so you don't
[06:58] <Littlegator> I'm having trouble adding the beryl repositories on this link http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[06:58] <quaal> qid,  is there a list of "bad words"
[06:58] <mytruehero> yommb: Alright, I'll do some searching. Thanks!
[06:58] <ikonia> guys - the rules of the channels is not swear words - thats classed as a swear word, so don't use it
[06:58] <mister_roboto> echosyp: i find that kind of argument hilarious, personally. you use specific language for effect and then argue that it should have no such effect. if all language is essentially neutral to you, just choose other language for the current context and be done with it. nothing is to be gained by such fruitless argument
[06:58] <robi1> people please, theres no reason to curse is the point. everyone back down for gods sake.
[06:58] <ikonia> Littlegator: whats the error
[06:58] <yommb> quaal : that shouldn't be too hart to figure out , no ?
[06:58] <yommb> *hard
[06:59] <SanguineAnomaly> hey guys, anyone have a link to a guide for compiling my own kernel on ubuntu - i'm used to doing it on other distros, but I can't seem to find the source on here _
[06:59] <PwcrLinux> !language
[06:59] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:59] <Littlegator> ikonia: I'm not sure how do add the command lines into the console, I got error when I copied them exactly
[06:59] <wolki> hi, i've got a small xorg.conf problem, and was wondering whether someone could help me. the thing is, i can't get anything other than best resolution on my laptop. ths was no problem for the past couple of months, but i'd like to have some resolutions available for a presentation tomorrow
[06:59] <ikonia> Littlegator: whats the error
[06:59] <quaal> can i say "banshee is being a cocksucker" ?
[06:59] <ikonia> !ops
[06:59] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:59] <echosyp> hah
[06:59] <juano__> OrangeOrange: try adding a '#' to the last line
[07:00] <Littlegator> ikonia: oh, uh, no valid openPGP data found
[07:00] <juano__> OrangeOrange: seems the japanese repo is giving trouble
[07:00] <bulmer> kick quaal
[07:00] <apokryphos> ikonia: ?
[07:00] <mborg> why doesn't the mysqldump command in edgy work? anyone?
[07:00] <quaal> if you have a link of banned words could you show me it ?
[07:00] <echosyp> me too
[07:00] <ikonia> apokryphos: offensive lanaugae being used from quaal
[07:00] <juano__> OrangeOrange: like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5284/
[07:00] <OrangeOrange> juano__: to test if that line is bad?
[07:00] <ikonia> constantly
[07:00] <mister_roboto> quaal: context is everything when it comes to human language. pretend you're talking to your mother and you'll be fine
[07:00] <OrangeOrange> juano__: wiat
[07:00] <juano__> OrangeOrange: yes
[07:00] <wolki> i've added the smaller resolutions to my xorg.conf but it doesn't help... changing the resolution just keeps the old one
[07:00] <juano__> OrangeOrange: and run sudo apt-get update after that
[07:01] <echosyp> thats some bs
[07:01] <echosyp> fuck
[07:01] <echosyp> shit
[07:01] <echosyp> cunt
[07:01] <ikonia> bye
[07:01] <unop> !ops
[07:01] <mc44> apokryphos:
[07:01] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:01] <mister_roboto> sigh...
[07:01] <PwcrLinux> !language
[07:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:01] <pbureau> echosyp, I think you could refrain this language in this channel no ?
[07:01] <ajifans> LIttlegator:  please don't take this the wrong way, but I'd strongly advise you against installing Beryl for the moment.  Although it looks pretty sweet, it's not quite ready for prime time, and can take a fair bit of fiddling to keep it working properly and in conjunction with your other apps. Many experienced linux users don't bother with it for this reason.
[07:01] <LiENUS> is there a way to set it so by default when i add a user it adds them to the group "users" instead of making a new group named after their username?
[07:01] <mister_roboto> !ops
[07:01] <apokryphos> mister_roboto: dealt with :)
[07:01] <ikonia> apokryphos: can you do quall please
[07:02] <apokryphos> ikonia: already kicked.
[07:02] <phatrabbit> damm
[07:02] <ikonia> ahhh - thank you
[07:02] <Zta>  # /etc/init.d/pcmciautils start * No PCMCIA bridge module specified
[07:02] <phatrabbit> thanks for that beryl comment
[07:02] <phatrabbit> i think i might pass on it
[07:02] <Zta> why?
[07:02] <yommb> ajifans : half the world has been running beryl quite succesfully  for months ...
[07:02] <unop> LiENUS,  read the adduser manpage :)
[07:02] <phatrabbit> arrg i am confused
[07:02] <Littlegator> ajifans: Are there other apps that skin ubuntu?
[07:02] <OrangeOrange> juano__:  duplicate source entries http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5286/
[07:02] <ikonia> Littlegator: gnome has themes
[07:02] <phatrabbit> meh i will just install it
[07:02] <ikonia> but if you used the wiki and forum as I suggested you'd find the threads on it
[07:02] <pal32i> do i need to run any program on regular basis to keep ubuntu running fine like diskdefragment
[07:02] <phatrabbit> see how it goes
[07:03] <Littlegator> ikonia: I know, but I'm not really fond of them
[07:03] <Nitro> Hello
[07:03] <ajifans> littlegator, yes go to gnome-look.org
[07:03] <seiken> is it possible to create a wifi network with ubuntu ?
[07:03] <LiENUS> unop, i want a way to do it by defualt
[07:03] <ikonia> no look then
[07:03] <bulmer> ajifans: is there a way to use that 3-d (beryl?) for other purposes like training someone like to show them how a room looks like? neat tool
[07:03] <LiENUS> i want adduser to do it without me telling it to
[07:03] <ikonia> Littlegator: nothing that can be done then if you don't like using gnome themes
[07:03] <LiENUS> bulmer,  how a room looks?
[07:03] <LiENUS> what?
[07:03] <juano__> OrangeOrange: seems you have duplicated repos, let me check again
[07:03] <Littlegator> ajifans: all I see there is compiz, are there others?
[07:03] <ikonia> beryl
[07:03] <phatrabbit> is there a way to get the 3d cube by itself
[07:03] <unop> LiENUS,  create a wrapper script
[07:04] <ikonia> compiz is not supported by ubuntu
[07:04] <phatrabbit> instead of getting beryl
[07:04] <ajifans> bulmer; maybe but it's well beyond my expertise
[07:04] <Nitro> erm, command to get all the packages to use/compile xchat?
[07:04] <dimeotane> anyone know what version of .zip is installed by default in  ubuntu edgy?
[07:04] <phatrabbit> Kubuntu seems to work ok with beryl
[07:04] <LiENUS> phatrabbit,  yes, learn to code and use opengl
[07:04] <ikonia> dimeotane: use dpkg to check it
[07:04] <iammisc> hi i have 3 kernels installed how do i get rid of the oldest. MY grub menu is filling up fast
[07:04] <phatrabbit> LiENUS, ok see u in 10 years
[07:04] <Tominator> hi! I've got a problem... I had a wineversion from the winehq repo installed and "overinstalled" a version which I compiled by my self (due to a patch) but now I want apt to install the newer version from the repo again, but it doesn't work#
[07:04] <Nitro> Anyone, I can't remember the right command to do so :/
[07:04] <dimeotane> one .zip package in the repositories is the infozip version..
[07:05] <ikonia> Tominator: becuase you've broke the dependencies
[07:05] <bulmer> ajifans: oh okay, some client ask me about an app in linux, to do such..and I saw that 3-d thing..i thought it can be applied to his needs
[07:05] <yell0w> iammisc, just remove them like normal
[07:05] <ikonia> by installing from outside the repo
[07:05] <Music_Shuffle> Nitro, like...sudo apt-get install xchat?
[07:05] <soundray> dimeotane: 2.32
[07:05] <Tominator> ikonia: how can I fix them?
[07:05] <AmaroqWolf> xD
[07:05] <iammisc> yell0w: what is normal? sudo apt-get remove ? but what are the packages called
[07:05] <ikonia> Tominator: remove all the old wine references
[07:05] <Nitro> Music_Shuffle: I'm going to compile the latest version, but I know by default ubuntu can't do it.
[07:05] <Tominator> ikonia: but how?
[07:05] <ajifans> littlegator, i'd look at the GTK2 themes, play around the transparency of the taskbars and also change the icons.  It's fairly easy, non-destructive and can make Ubuntu look nicer
[07:05] <yell0w> iammisc, easier if you use synaptics
[07:05] <ikonia> Tominator: rm
[07:05] <iammisc> yell0w : what packages?
[07:06] <ajifans> sorry bulmer, afraid I can't help you there
[07:06] <Littlegator> ajifans: I'll try that I guess
[07:06] <yell0w> iammisc, depends on your version
[07:06] <dimeotane> soundray: which version... pkzip? infozip?  which one is installed by default in ubuntu?
[07:06] <Tominator> ikonia: not really? do I have to delete each single file?
[07:06] <ikonia> Tominator: yes
[07:06] <yell0w> iammisc, and what you've installed and what you want to leave for use
[07:06] <SanguineAnomaly> hey guys, home come when i press ctrl+alt+f1, i get a black screen, instead of a VT
[07:06] <soundray> dimeotane: infozip
[07:06] <iammisc> yell0w i want to remove kernel 2.6.15-26-386
[07:06] <dimeotane> ikonia:  how do I use dpkg to check that?
[07:07] <ajifans> littlegator; once you've downloaded them from gnome-look you can install them via System > Preferences > Theme
[07:07] <yell0w> iammisc, i removed all but 2..8.15-28-386/686/server
[07:07] <iammisc> yell0w ok
[07:07] <Nitro> I was here some days ago, and someone told me the command, but I can't remember it
[07:07] <Tominator> ikonia: I think it'll be faster to compile the newer version myself won't it?
[07:07] <iammisc> it won;t allow me to remove all of them right?
[07:07] <bulmer> SanguineAnomaly: try the next one maybe? f2?
[07:07] <dimeotane> what I'm trying to figure out is what encryption or password protection that .zip offers in file roller when I set a password
[07:07] <SanguineAnomaly> bulmer, same
[07:07] <dimeotane> Winzip and PKzip are AES encryption
[07:07] <ikonia> Tominator: thats your call, just remember your in this position because YOU broke the dependency tree, so you're welcome to carry on that way
[07:07] <SanguineAnomaly> they're all black - at least they were, they're now all multicoloured :S
[07:08] <yell0w> iammisc, use synaptics, it gives you more visually on what you have installed / not installed and easier to pick out the one you don't want
[07:08] <iammisc> yeah i'm doing that
[07:08] <bulmer> SanguineAnomaly: umm cant recall, but maybe /etc/securetty have something you can look at
[07:08] <Tominator> ikonia: how could I have not done it?
[07:08] <SanguineAnomaly> bulmer, ok, thanks
[07:08] <yell0w> iammisc, 686 gives noticable difference in the feel of the system
[07:08] <yell0w> :)
[07:08] <juano__> OrangeOrange: sorry , let me check i was afk a sec
[07:08] <ikonia> Tominator: use the versions from the repo
[07:09] <OrangeOrange> juano__: dont worry, im kinda use to it..
[07:09] <ikonia> Tominator: package up the newer version against ubuntu deps
[07:09] <yell0w> iammisc, i just cleaned out my kernels and switch to 686 2 days ago, loved it
[07:09] <Eposhark> I'm trying to get my wireless to work, and I got a little closer. In installed ndiswrapper, and I found an .inf file which I loaded into ndisgtk, this is the output:
[07:09] <Eposhark> epo@epuntu:/media/data$ ndiswrapper -l
[07:09] <Eposhark> e100b325 : invalid driver!
[07:09] <Eposhark> netw39x5 : driver installed
[07:09] <Eposhark> netwlan : invalid driver!
[07:09] <Eposhark> w29n51 : driver installed
[07:09] <lordkeiden> will running avahi interfer with network manager?
[07:09] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm weird though i dont see where the duplicate entry is
[07:09] <juano__> OrangeOrange: is this making apt crashing ?
[07:09] <Eposhark> So now it seems I have a working driver, what should I do next? iwconfig stills says there is nothing
[07:09] <jexdawg> in totem, i'm trying to play a .mov and i have sound, and when i move the screen around really fast i can see little parts of the video, but when i just let it sit there it isn't showing up. what gives?
[07:10] <Eposhark> "eth1      no wireless extensions.
[07:10] <Eposhark> "
[07:10] <OrangeOrange> juano__: wat?
[07:10] <yell0w> !w32codecs | jexdawg
[07:10] <ubotu> jexdawg: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:10] <OrangeOrange> juano__: well wen i do the apt get update.. it show me the error before i show u...
[07:10] <jexdawg> gracias yell0w
[07:10] <assasukasse> question: is there a way to make a driver compilated with a kernal to stay there even when i update kernel
[07:10] <yell0w> jexdawg, de nada
[07:10] <juano__> OrangeOrange: yeah but, i mean , can you still download with this error ? or is apt crashing ?
[07:10] <AmaroqWolf> jexdawg, if you've got the codecs installed that it needs, you might still need to mess with that player's settings.
[07:11] <bulmer> Eposhark: maybe you can try that ndiskgtk front end for ndiswrapper, dont know how much it would help
[07:11] <gaspipe1> hey all
[07:11] <bulmer> ndisgtk*
[07:11] <Eposhark> I loaded the driver using that :-)
[07:11] <OrangeOrange> ermm
[07:11] <Eposhark> But it's only used for loading a driver
[07:12] <OrangeOrange> juano__: it have hit , get... but it will stop with the error messsage.. so is it dl completely?
[07:12] <bulmer> Eposhark: nothing shows up on your /etc/networking/interfaces ..look at dmesg too
[07:12] <juano__> OrangeOrange: ok, it stops with that error message
[07:12] <juano__> OrangeOrange: apt-get stops with that error message
[07:13] <OrangeOrange> so apt-get stops ____________ the blank are the big error messages?
[07:14] <andre> hey guys
[07:14] <andre> I'm having a problem with the nvidia drivers... can anyone help me?
[07:14] <Yodude> hey how sdo i install a tar.gz package?
[07:14] <yell0w> !ask | andre
[07:14] <ubotu> andre: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <cables> Yodude, extract it and see if there's a readme
[07:14] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm, your sources.list seems fine though
[07:14] <ikonia> andre how can we help if you don't tell us the problem
[07:14] <dimeotane> how do I use dpkg to find out what version is installed of zip
[07:14] <nofxx> how to change the default new user model??? keyboard layout.. wallpaper...
[07:15] <ikonia> dimeotane: man dpkg
[07:15] <soundray> dimeotane: 'dpkg -l zip' (man dpkg helps, too)
[07:15] <cables> dimeotane, not sure how to use dpkg, but you could to "aptitude show <packagename>"
[07:15] <Jowi_n1> Yodude, either unpack it with "tar" or use "file-roller", which is a graphical front end
[07:15] <dimeotane> k thx
[07:15] <Jowi_n1> nofxx, /etc/skel contain all the default settings for new users
[07:15] <Yodude> but hey i have a primary question
[07:16] <Yodude> where should my apps be installed?
[07:16] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: there is nothing there....
[07:16] <Yodude> at / or /home
[07:16] <Yodude> ?
[07:16] <jexdawg> ermm.. what is command to edit sources.list with root access? sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:16] <cables> Yodude, /usr/bin usually
[07:16] <juano__> OrangeOrange: paste this : sudo ls -a /var/lib/apt/lists
[07:16] <Littlegator> does the mouse-3 button not work or something?
[07:16] <[BTF] Chm0d> my sound is kinda skipping and stuttering any suggestions?
[07:16] <cables> Yodude, you can check with the command: "whereis <programname>"
[07:16] <soundray> Yodude: what are you installing?
[07:16] <[BTF] Chm0d> its a fairly new ubuntu install
[07:17] <Littlegator> Is there any way to make mouse3 scroll like in windows? That's the one feature I miss >_>
[07:17] <Jowi_n1> Yodude, usually /usr/local or /opt is what I use myself
[07:17] <ikonia> Littlegator: wiki and forums
[07:17] <andre> soory brb
[07:18] <lordkeiden> will running avahi interfer with network manager?
[07:18] <Jowi_n1> nofxx, also see /etc/gnome/ for gnome specific defaults
[07:18] <soundray> lordkeiden: no, it shouldn't. Feisty will use both by default
[07:18] <Yodude> hey does anybody know why the repositories are slow at this time?
[07:18] <edex> Hey every body!  I have a question about Totem..
[07:18] <cables> Yodude, lots of updates maybe?
[07:18] <Yodude> in the morning i wa getting a good speed now i'm bvarely connecting
[07:19] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: been there too...only default applications there.... xD
[07:19] <AlexC_> edex: then ask it if you want help.
[07:19] <quaal> too all offended: my apologies.
[07:19] <Yodude> i'm not installing the updates for now i'm just downloading my nvidia driver
[07:19] <edex> when trying to play a dvd I get the message no URI handler implemented for 'dvd'    how can I implement this
[07:19] <_`XeOn_> i need help to mount my hard drive as persistent
[07:19] <cables> Yodude, but a lot of people probably are installing updates
[07:19] <Yodude> btw how can i update a single app?
[07:20] <Yodude> without re-downloading thw whole of it?
[07:20] <AlexC_> _`XeOn_: how can we help if you don't ask a question!
[07:20] <ikonia> quaal: are you going to drop the attitude now ?
[07:20] <Jowi_n1> nofxx, /usr/share/gnome ?
[07:20] <ikonia> rather than just apply to a polite request ?
[07:20] <nanomad> hi all!
[07:20] <Nitro> Hello
[07:20] <OrangeOrange> juano__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5289/ sry was away
[07:20] <_`XeOn_> i need to mount my win32 partition
[07:20] <Nitro> Anyone that can tell me?
[07:20] <jexdawg> umm.. i got .mov to work but no luck on .wmv and .mpeg. crap.
[07:20] <AlexC_> !wmv | jexdawg
[07:20] <ubotu> jexdawg: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:20] <hanasaki> what package do you folks recommend for a VPN?  It has to work with windows clients as well as wireless and linux (maybe mac too)
[07:20] <cables> !ntfs | _`XeOn_
[07:20] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:20] <pradeep> !ask | Nitro,
[07:20] <ubotu> Nitro,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:21] <quaal> ikonia, no apology was requested. i made the apology on my own accord. now get over it. thank you.
[07:21] <soundray> !fat32 | _`XeOn_
[07:21] <ubotu> _`XeOn_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:21] <juano__> OrangeOrange: maybe you got duplicated entries in there
[07:21] <nanomad> just installed feisty...is it normal that the close, hide and maximize buttons are at 3/4 of my window in the title bar?
[07:21] <Nitro> pradeep: I've already asked
[07:21] <drphx> Hello.  I'm trying to install 6.10 on a Sony Vaio laptop from the PCMCIA CD-ROM drive and installation is stopping at a BusyBox prompt with an error -- '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off' and then a '(initframfs)' prompt.  any suggestsions?
[07:21] <cables> nanomad, it's alpha...
[07:21] <OrangeOrange> juano__: do i edit that.. how do i edit that?
[07:21] <soundray> nanomad: no. Ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:21] <jexdawg> ty alexc
[07:21] <andre> ok guy I'm back
[07:21] <juano__> OrangeOrange: nope, its a dir
[07:21] <ikonia> quaal: ahhhh so your attitude still stinks. I meant are you going to be nice and just comply with my polite request of watching your language
[07:21] <nanomad> k
[07:21] <cables> nanomad, #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <AlexC_> nanomad: Feisty is in heavy development, expect breakages - if you want a stable system use Edgy or Dapper, and #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <ikonia> I didn't mean you'd been forced to apologies, but I just asked you politly to watch your language
[07:22] <andre> I'm having a problem with the Nvidia drivers from the restricted repo... when I reboot, they don't work anymore...
[07:22] <nanomad> AlexC_, no poblems....i came from debian sid
[07:22] <ikonia> andre define won't work
[07:22] <swanfl> need the entry in sources.list for amarok 1.4.5
[07:22] <AlexC_> ikonia: haha, I was just about to say the exact same thign!
[07:22] <pradeep> Nitro, sorry .. If you don't mind can you post it again?
[07:22] <duckx0r> how can I map a domain name to a specific IP address?
[07:23] <andre> ikonia by won't I mean X won't load and I have to switch to the "nv" driver
[07:23] <Yodude> cables: if i install my apps on /usr/local will evry user be able to open them?
[07:23] <AlexC_> !dns | duckx0r
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <ikonia> andre have you looked at the xorg logs  ?
[07:23] <Yodude> i want thm to be avaiulable for all
[07:23] <pradeep> oops, too late
[07:23] <andre> ikonia...
[07:23] <soundray> duckx0r: you can only map a hostname to an IP address
[07:23] <andre> ikonia... no
[07:23] <ikonia> duckx0r: you need a dns config
[07:23] <OrangeOrange> juano__: wat should i do then?
[07:23] <hotti> how to repair nvidia drivers after kernel-upgrade?
[07:23] <OrangeOrange> juano__: delete folders?
[07:23] <hotti> pls anyone
[07:23] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: damn.... nothing there too...... only folders
[07:23] <ikonia> andre I suggest you check the logs
[07:23] <HymnToLife> andre, there was a kernel upgrade recently, did you upgrade your restricted-modules as well ?
[07:23] <nanomad> duckdown, /etc/hosts ?
[07:23] <ikonia> while using nvidia - not nv
[07:24] <andre> ikonia... want me to nopaste.info them to you?
[07:24] <lordkeiden> soundray: thanks
[07:24] <andre> hymnToLife: I installed the drivers today
[07:24] <nofxx> Jowi_n1: and applications defaults...... jusst the keyboard I 'll be happy.....   set a default keybpoard for all new users
[07:24] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm no, i was checking to see if you had duplicated files in there, but seems not
[07:24] <salotti> nofxx teste
[07:24] <duckx0r> ikonia, where do I get this DNS config from?
[07:24] <ikonia> andre no thanks, just look through the logs yourself and get a rough idea
[07:24] <juano__> OrangeOrange: let me see
[07:24] <juano__> OrangeOrange: sec
[07:24] <soundray> lordkeiden: did you find out what set your iptables the other day?
[07:24] <ikonia> duckx0r: your ISP normally hosts DNS
[07:24] <Yodude> does anybody know the best location to install apps?
[07:24] <andre> ikonia: where are the logs?
[07:24] <Yodude> i want them accesible by everyone
[07:24] <HymnToLife> Yodude, which apps ?
[07:25] <ikonia> andre /var/log/X.0.log
[07:25] <Yodude> like maybe thunderbird
[07:25] <ikonia> xorg.0.log
[07:25] <duckx0r> ikonia, yes I am using my ISPs DNS right now, but I want to override something because my domain hasn't propagated yet
[07:25] <Yodude> Google earth
[07:25] <yell0w> Yodude, make a separate partition for it ?
[07:25] <ikonia> duckx0r: you can't
[07:25] <duckx0r> ikonia, there's gotta be a way. you can do it in windows...
[07:25] <jexdawg> i have a microsoft wireless mouse + keyboard combo (and i'm using ubuntu... wtf?) and i'd like to install the drivers. i haven't even tried wine yet, so this isn't really a support issue, just an "is it possible?" issue. basically i'd like to use some of the keys and the scrollwheel on my keyboard and the back/forth buttons on my mouse. can wine do this?
[07:25] <AmaroqWolf> Yodude, in /etc ?
[07:25] <ikonia> duckx0r: no you can't
[07:25] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: please don't
[07:25] <duckx0r> ikonia, i've done it before.
[07:26] <yell0w> AmaroqWolf, /etc is just for configs files
[07:26] <untung> hello
[07:26] <Yodude> i was thinking in /Opt
[07:26] <HymnToLife> Yodude, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware
[07:26] <lordkeiden> soundray: yeah....i didnt know it, and still dont know how, but firehol got installed and was running. killed it and everything was fine! newbie mistake....
[07:26] <yommb> silly question perhaps, but can a scanner be shared via samba ?
[07:26] <ikonia> duckx0r: you can only use another dns service or use /etc/hosts
[07:26] <madar> anyone else dealing with  nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9742 after an upgrade?
[07:26] <ikonia> duckx0r: thats your only option
[07:26] <soundray> lordkeiden: well done
[07:26] <drphx> Hello.  I'm trying to install 6.10 on a Sony Vaio laptop from the PCMCIA CD-ROM drive and installation is stopping at a BusyBox prompt with an error -- '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off' and then a '(initframfs)' prompt.  any suggestsions?
[07:26] <untung> is that posible to encript the CD ROM data?
[07:26] <andre> ikonia: I'm no expert at reading this... I don't know what to tell you...
[07:26] <duckx0r> ikonia, yes /etc/hosts that's what i'm looking for
[07:27] <yell0w> Yodude, /opt is good, the ubuntu  firefox 2 instllation tutorial use /opt
[07:27] <AmaroqWolf> soundray, yell0w, where is a good place then? :P I've been wondering the same thing, because I'm curious about making a fun game demo I found into a .deb package.
[07:27] <HymnToLife> Yodude, unless I'm mistaken... do you want to install the Thunderbird build from mozilla.com ?
[07:27] <crazy_penguin> good night!
[07:27] <untung> i want to burn a cd data  and put encription so it can be read if it has key
[07:27] <juano__> OrangeOrange: mm i think i found a duplicated entry
[07:27] <Yodude> HymnToLife: yes
[07:27] <ikonia> andre look for lines starting with EE
[07:27] <OrangeOrange> juano__: cool
[07:27] <nofxx> How to change the default keyboard layout for new users????
[07:27] <juano__> try substituting your sources.list for this one
[07:27] <HymnToLife> Yodude, then /opt is the right place
[07:27] <juano__> OrangeOrange: sec
[07:27] <yell0w> Yodude, AmaroqWolf, /opt is good, but me personally i used a separate partition for things i install manually
[07:27] <ant1matter> anyone had success pairing with a bluetooth headset?
[07:28] <HymnToLife> and then symlink the executable to somewhere in your $PATH, usually /usr/local/bin
[07:28] <andre> ikonia: unable to load "nvidia"
[07:28] <ikonia> andre ok - so that normally means the nvidia kernel driver is missing or not loaded
[07:28] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: look, this is really unacceptable behaviour. If you don't know the proper answer to a question that someone is asking here, then DON'T ANSWER IT
[07:28] <andre> ikonia... but synaptic tells me otherwise
[07:29] <luis>  hola estoy haciendo un manual de ubuntu 6.10, el problema es que quiero capturar la barra de herramientas para mostrar lo que tiene el menu de aplicaciones y no puedo capturarla, las otras pantallas es facil pero esto me gano, alguien puede ayudar
[07:29] <soundray> !es | luis
[07:29] <ubotu> luis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:29] <ikonia> andre check the modules there
[07:29] <andre> ikonia: modules where?
[07:29] <luis> nadi sabe esto
[07:29] <jexdawg> how long did you guys use linux/ubuntu before you started to feel like it was your true OS and you were truly comfortable... maybe not an expert, but to the point where you were just... content with it?
[07:29] <ikonia> andre do an lsmod and see if nvidia is loaded
[07:30] <andre> ikonia: you'll have to give me the exact command :$... sorry
[07:30] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: alright. I assumed it was /etc because I looked there once and saw folders with names on them of all of the apps I had.
[07:30] <ikonia> I've just given you the exact command
[07:30] <ikonia> ls mod
[07:30] <ikonia> lsmod
[07:30] <Yodude> hey when i want to install thunderbird.tar.gz to /opt
[07:30] <ikonia> why do you want to use the tar file
[07:31] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: if someone had followed their advice, they could have wrecked their system to the point that it would have required a reinstallation.
[07:31] <shatrat> Yodude, why, it's in the repositories
[07:31] <soundray> s/their/your
[07:31] <Yodude> i get this message: You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/opt"
[07:31] <ikonia> Yodude: you don't have permission
[07:31] <mc44> Yodude: why dont you install it from the repositories?
[07:31] <ikonia> Yodude: why do you want to use the tar file  ?
[07:31] <andre> ikonia:  the only thing resembling nvidia in there is :sata_nv
[07:31] <Yodude> yes but i already download the tar.gz
[07:31] <shatrat> Yodude, well undownload it
[07:31] <juano__> OrangeOrange: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5290/
[07:31] <ikonia> andre ok - so "modprobe nvidia"
[07:31] <juano__> OrangeOrange: try that for your sources.list
[07:31] <unop> Yodude,  sudo that command
[07:31] <Yodude> because i already downloaded it and my connection is slow i don't want to download it again
[07:32] <shatrat> Yodude, sudo apt-get install thunderbird, or maybe mozilla-thunderbird
[07:32] <ikonia> Yodude: I would advise STRONGLY against doing that
[07:32] <Yodude> i'm extracting it using the graphical extractor
[07:32] <Yodude> not a command
[07:32] <juano__> OrangeOrange: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the contents, then do sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <ikonia> Yodude: use apt
[07:32] <ikonia> please
[07:32] <juano__> OrangeOrange: i found the universe repo from the same dir repeated
[07:32] <andre> ikonia: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[07:32] <juano__> OrangeOrange: might work
[07:32] <unop> Yodude,  then launch the GUI extractor as superuser
[07:32] <AmaroqWolf> soundray: okay. I know better now, about the /etc thing anyway. I always try not to help someone unless I'm confidant that I know the answer, but I was wrong this time.
[07:32] <ikonia> andre ok - so nvidia is not installed
[07:32] <Yodude> unop: how do i lunch it as a superuser
[07:32] <andre> *sigh*
[07:33] <ikonia> Yodude: please please please - use apt
[07:33] <mc44> Yodude: look, you are likely to break things unless you use the version from the repository
[07:33] <Yodude> ( btw i won't download unbless from apt anymore i promise:))
[07:33] <vlt|home> Hello. When I connect to from ubuntu's UTF-8 shell via ssh to an ISO-8859-15 Debian there are some chars not displayed properly. What do I have to do on the client (or on the server) to avoid this?
[07:33] <andre> ikonia: ok let me uninstall what is installed and reinstall
[07:33] <robinQuivers> okay hmmm total linux newb here... looking for GRUB help i think. i managed to navigate the filesystem and found the grub menu.lst which im guessing is my boot load. i would like to make the DEFAULT windows xp instead of ubuntu. how?
[07:33] <towsonu2003> have stupid question: how do you see whether you have 3D working?
[07:33] <unop> Yodude,  well, what is the name of it?
[07:33] <ikonia> andre a wise choice
[07:33] <jexdawg> towsonu, glxinfo in terminal might tell you
[07:33] <unop> Yodude,  file-roller?
[07:33] <Yodude> file roller
[07:33] <Yodude> yes
[07:34] <soundray> AmaroqWolf: okay, I'm glad you didn't just fool around or mislead someone intentionally.
[07:34] <unop> Yodude,  ALT+F2 .. gksudo file-roller
[07:34] <shatrat> Yodude, btw, I just looked it up, the package you want is "mozilla-thunderbird"
[07:34] <andre> ikonia: ok reinstalled,  I'm now going to change my xorg.conf to say "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[07:34] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: Count the menu entries (start with 0) and change the "default 0" to XP's number.
[07:34] <AmaroqWolf> towsonu, glxinfo | grep direct
[07:34] <ikonia> andre don't forget to reboot
[07:34] <OrangeOrange> juano: replace how?
[07:34] <andre> ikonia: first or after?
[07:34] <ikonia> first
[07:34] <wiseelben> hi, sound is suddenly not working. I have no idea what caused it, most likely an update. Any ideas why?
[07:34] <robinQuivers> vlt|home: okay looking at that now...
[07:34] <mc44> Yodude: you will save far more time installing it from apt and downloading it again than you will if you compile it yourself
[07:34] <towsonu2003> AmaroqWolf, ah so direct rendering = 3d?
[07:35] <AmaroqWolf> I believe so
[07:35] <peace-keeper> lol
[07:35] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: When you count don't forget to include the section separators ;-)
[07:35] <Yodude> ?
[07:35] <AmaroqWolf> It's hardward acceleration anyway
[07:35] <AmaroqWolf> *hardware
[07:35] <towsonu2003> jexdawg, it says Tungsten Graphics although I have Ati Radeon Mobility 9000 with the open source drivers. is that normal?
[07:35] <unop> mc44,  i believe the package you download as a tar.gz from mozilla is a binary package
[07:35] <andre> ikonia: rebooting brb
[07:35] <Yodude> why should i compile?
[07:35] <Yodude> it already contains the folders and files of the installed version
[07:35] <Yodude> not code
[07:35] <mc44> unop: ah, sorry
[07:36] <funkja> is there a way to ignore an update so it won't notify me about it anymore but when the next update comes it will tell me?
[07:36] <unop> Yodude, yea, its a binary package
[07:36] <ikonia> Yodude: do NOT compile
[07:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> Hey guys good afternoon.  I have a problem with my sound.  For some reason its skipping when I play a movie or mp3.  Any suggestions?
[07:36] <POVaddct> damn marvell wlan cards
[07:36] <ikonia> Yodude: apt-get mozilla-thunderbird - its will do it all for you
[07:36] <bart_> Apache + WebDAV + Antivirus , does anyone have a sortlike setup ?
[07:36] <mc44> unop: but presumably the depedencies may well be broken
[07:36] <shatrat> Yodude, it still isnt as good as having a ubuntu specific package which will automatically recieve security updates
[07:36] <ikonia> bart_: why would you run antivirus with apache ?
[07:36] <Yodude> yes but i told you now my connection is barely 3KB so...
[07:36] <Yodude> i guess i'll wait till tomorrow
[07:36] <AmaroqWolf> towsunu2003, I believe direct renduring is 3D, but I'm not sure. I'm slightly new at this myself, but I think if you've got direct renduring enabled and your card is capable of 3D, it should work. :P
[07:37] <towsonu2003> thanks :)
[07:37] <robinQuivers> vlt|home: okay i didnt even see that default 0, i tried changing it to 3 but the file is read only and doesnt seem to want to save. i was doing this in the gui so when i right clicked it seems it belongs to root and i cant change it. i am unfamiliar with shell editing... can you point me to steps?
[07:37] <savvas> i have just updated to the new kernel.. and the x desktop won't load, something about the nvidia module, it found the screen, but the module doesn't work. any help?
[07:37] <unop> mc44,  well, he'll find out soon enough if thats the case :)
[07:37] <SanguineAnomaly> :X
[07:38] <SanguineAnomaly> silly comman
[07:38] <SanguineAnomaly> d
[07:38] <andre_> ikonia: I rebooted fine, I'm gonna switch to "nvidia" now
[07:38] <bart_> ikonia : because i want to scan file uploads and downloads that happen throught the webdav protocol
[07:38] <Thug-N-Me> how do i enable nautilus Microsoft Windows compatibility cD ?
[07:38] <Yodude> ok but hey guys you haven't answered a question:
[07:38] <ikonia> bart_: I see - thank you
[07:38] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: Open a shell, type "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:38] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: "sudo" means "do as root"
[07:38] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: "nano" is an editor.
[07:38] <Yodude> how can i update a single app ( like Firefox ) without downloading the whole of it again?
[07:38] <robinQuivers> k
[07:39] <wiseelben> AmaroqWolf, towsunu2003, direct rendering is not "3d." It gives applications to display 3d stuff faster because it allows aps to directly give data and commands to hardware (video card).
[07:39] <robinQuivers> opening up accessories > terminal
[07:39] <andre_> ikonia: I'll wait for your OK before I reboot
[07:39] <robinQuivers> ty ill follow your instructions and let you know.
[07:39] <peace-keeper> is nano more fashionable nowadays than vi ?
[07:39] <AmaroqWolf> wideelben: ah, thank you
[07:39] <ikonia> andre please do
[07:39] <Yodude> cuz i noticed that by selecting firefox only updates in update manager i got 8.9Mb!
[07:39] <boredandblogging> is nano like pico?
[07:39] <wiseelben> Yodude - you would have to download the whole app if you want to update
[07:40] <unop> boredandblogging,  very similar
[07:40] <Psy> hey guys, ubuntu has detected my wlan0 connection and shows the signal strength as very good but ti still says disconnected - any ideas?
[07:40] <boredandblogging> then nano sucks
[07:40] <wiseelben> peace-keeper - nano and vi are two totally different things
[07:40] <peace-keeper> no, they are both editors
[07:40] <savvas> the x desktop won't load after updating to the new kernel. anyone knows how to fix this?
[07:40] <robinQuivers> vlt|home: whats the command to save a file in nano.... ctrl^o = write out??
[07:40] <peace-keeper> i miss the times when that stupid "sudo" was not all around
[07:40] <Yodude> wiseelben: man why?! in windows it's just the added code
[07:41] <unop> boredandblogging,  errm, thats some conclusion you arrive at :) but no, pico is forked off from nano (i believe) and has more in terms of functionality
[07:41] <jpjacobs> savvas, you ccan try apting the right restricted modules, and nvidia-kernel. (use aptitude, it's nice)
[07:41] <ikonia> Yodude: thats because windows is 1 platform - linux is 2302342984 platforms
[07:42] <Yodude> dam
[07:42] <wiseelben> Yodude - no it's not. It total depends on the application. If the app (lets say firefox) allows you to update only part of it, then it is a featuire that the firefox developrs put in. I'm not sure if firefox has that feature though.
[07:42] <savvas> jpjacobs: do you know which restricted module is it? :\
[07:42] <vlt|home> robinQuivers: ctrl+o works or F2
[07:42] <robinQuivers> anyone... ive opened a file in nano in the shell. how do i save the changes... ctrl+0?
[07:42] <robinQuivers> okay ty vlt|home
[07:42] <Yodude> man i'm getting more and more walls between me and linux
[07:42] <Psy> is there a command to make a connection connect, my wlan and lan connection show as disconnected and are both enabled?
[07:42] <boredandblogging> unop, hah, actually, pico was very helpful when I was learning solaris and needed to edit files, but eventually I learned enough of vi to ditch it like a bad date
[07:42] <Yodude> my connection is too slow it's only 7KB per second download
[07:42] <jpjacobs> savvas, it's the one with the same version number as your kernel
[07:42] <soundray> unop: no, nano was written as a clone of pico because pico is non-free in the sense of free speech
[07:42] <peace-keeper> real men edit config files with ms word
[07:42] <Yodude> i can't download like 10MB everyday!
[07:42] <jbroome> wussy
[07:42] <savvas> jpjacobs: ok i'm going to try it
[07:43] <ikonia> Yodude: well that won't solve anything with downloading the binary - you still have to download the whole thing, and its not every day - its quite rare
[07:43] <unop> wiseelben, well, its like windows update -- you dont download the entire windows OS.. just bits of it at a time .. but then again, it depends on the particular firefox update
[07:43] <jexdawg> i've installed the w32 codecs and now, randomly, even my .movs won't play (along with everything else).. damn
[07:43] <eztk> did anyone find their Nvidia support died after the software update to ....10 ...11
[07:43] <robinQuivers> vlt|home:  okay good! thanks a ton that worked it seems. ill ultimately know on boot i suppose but yea. ty
[07:43] <mc44> jexdawg: try vlc or mplayer
[07:43] <peace-keeper> i have nvidia and its still working
[07:43] <eztk> it might work now though. helper-scripts seemed to download and install now
[07:43] <OrangeOrange> juano__: wat i replace?
[07:43] <unop> soundray,  ok, i stand corrected -- i know little about pico or nano
[07:43] <eztk> 'wb' module went missing
[07:44] <andre_> ikonia: I'm having the exact same darn probelm...
[07:44] <andre_> ikonia: so mad...
[07:44] <peace-keeper> amazingly i havent had any problems with ubuntu for >1 week
[07:44] <jexdawg> which do you recommend? and if i do, will i need totem, or should i uninstall it?
[07:44] <FantasticFoo> i need to lower the mouse pointer acceleration on my laptop trackpad, but i can't seem to figure out how
[07:44] <eztk> so i switched to older .i386 .10 kernel (dont know where that came from) in grub, and now nvidia works again
[07:44] <ikonia> andre ok - so modprove nvidia
[07:44] <eztk> must be a frustrating problems for newbie
[07:44] <mc44> jexdawg: you dont need to uninstall it. I would recommend vlc
[07:44] <andre_> ikonia: modprove nvidia no such command
[07:45] <xratex> hihi
[07:45] <ikonia> modprobe nvidia sorry
[07:45] <Yodude> ikonia: you know, if i had a decent connection, ubuntu would be like the ALL-GOD-CHOSEN-PERFECT operating system for me
[07:45] <FantasticFoo> the "mouse" preferences dialog can't seem to change acceleration
[07:45] <soundray> FantasticFoo: System-Preferences-Mouse-Motion
[07:45] <jexdawg> fantasticfoo ... simple, but - system -> preferences -> mouse
[07:45] <jexdawg> oh. nvm then.
[07:45] <amonkey_> how can i tell if i have vt or emt64? i can't find a good list/test
[07:45] <unop> boredandblogging,  seems pico is to nano as vi is to vim
[07:45] <ikonia> Yodude: thats part of the deal though
[07:45] <xratex> how was the command to see if my 3D driver is working?
[07:45] <andre_> ikonia: same thing
[07:45] <Yodude> on one side it make things SO easy with a good connection
[07:45] <ikonia> andre show me the error again please
[07:45] <ikonia> ahhhh wait hang on
[07:45] <soundray> Yodude: then why are you trying to wreck it by installing non-ubuntu packaged software?
[07:45] <boredandblogging> unop, good analogy, yo uare probably right
[07:45] <FantasticFoo> the mouse moves WAY too fast. i really need to slow it down
[07:45] <_chm0d_> i have skipping in my sound can anyone suggest a remedy?  I have searched the internet but really have found nothing.
[07:45] <ikonia> andre have you just done a kernel update
[07:45] <soundray> FantasticFoo: System-Preferences-Mouse-Motion
[07:45] <Yodude> on the other side it can make the OS suck
[07:45] <andre_> ikonia: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[07:46] <ikonia> Yodude: yup
[07:46] <jexdawg> fantasticfoo, did you go to the motion tab in mouse preferences? it has the Acceleration option right there and it works for me
[07:46] <Thug-N-Me> nautilus its crashing when i try to burn a dvd
[07:46] <andre_> ikonia: no.. I just now installed the driver.
[07:46] <dimeotane> FantasticFoo: have you changed your xorg.conf settings ?
[07:46] <andre_> Ikonia: if we can't fix this I'm gonna have to format, reinstall
[07:46] <ikonia> andre no, I mean have you recently moved to the .11 kernel
[07:46] <almi1> im sitting on ubuntu and using fluxbox and the resolution is 800x600, how do i change this?
[07:46] <ikonia> andre thats not going to help
[07:46] <dimeotane> or tried the system -->preferences-->mouse
[07:47] <andre_> ikonia: yes yesterday I moved to .11
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> jexdawg: on a laptop trackpad?
[07:47] <dimeotane> on my laptop i need to change the xorg.conf settings to get the trackpad to work
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> dimeotane: no i haven't
[07:47] <ikonia> andre ok - now we are getting somewhere
[07:47] <n1zzh> look in /lib/modules/ for the older kernel. I'd bet there is an earlier kernel mods directory, and that copying the .ko (as root) will make the driver work.
[07:47] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the  icrosoft Windows compatibility  ?
[07:47] <dimeotane> the mouse settings only worked on the usb mouse
[07:47] <ikonia> andre swap back to .10 in the grub boot menu and I'll bet money it works
[07:47] <andre_> ikonia: I reinstalled yesterday, updated to .11 and installed driver today
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> dimeotane: what did you change/
[07:47] <unop> almi1, did you have another WM that had the right resolutions?
[07:47] <jexdawg> fantasticfoo, my bad. thought you were on a desktop. sorry.
[07:47] <andre_> ikonia: do the drivers not work for anyone in .11?
[07:47] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how to get WPA with rt2500 and Knetworkmanager to work? It sees the network and all, but the dropdown menu doesn't show WPA
[07:47] <Littlegator> quick question: Can you resize icons, and if so, how?
[07:48] <almi1> unop: WM?
[07:48] <ikonia> andre I don't think they have been updated
[07:48] <radioaktivstorm> hello, anyone versed in the *highly descriptive* language of xp blue screen errors? my friends XP box returns a string of lovely numbers that have no discernable meaning (thank goodness for live CDs). if not, can someone direct me to a windows help irc channel? thanks
[07:48] <Yodude> i wish i had a better ISP
[07:48] <ikonia> Littlegator: wiki and forum
[07:48] <ikonia> Littlegator: and yes you can resize
[07:48] <andre_> ikonia... dang it.
[07:48] <unop> almi1,  window manager - gnome, kde, etc ?
[07:48] <mc44> radioaktivstorm: ##windows
[07:48] <Borat> Hey Guys, i updated my kernel to 2.7.11 or something like that, and now my beryl/xgl is not working, does anyone know how to fix it?
[07:48] <ikonia> Borat: nvidia card ?
[07:48] <Littlegator> ikonia: it's probably a hotkey that would take all of 7 seconds to type
[07:48] <ikonia> Littlegator:  no its not
[07:48] <radioaktivstorm> thanks, mc44
[07:48] <Borat> ikonia: No, ATI
[07:48] <FantasticFoo> dimeotane: do you remember what you had to edit in your xorg.conf?
[07:48] <ikonia> bu it does take about 10 seconds to do
[07:49] <almi1> i used gnome before flux but i just found out that it was 800x600
[07:49] <depinko> does anyone know some utility that can convert ogg theora to xvid? (or other video format?)
[07:49] <Littlegator> oh, so sorry, it's in the right click menu =.=
[07:49] <ikonia> Littlegator: if you had done research on some of the other questions - you'd get these questions answered in a quick 2 seconds response
[07:49] <unop> almi1,  you'll need to edit your xorg.conf and set the resolution there
[07:49] <unop> !fixres
[07:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <ikonia> Littlegator: is it ?? I never saw that
[07:49] <unop> almi1,  ^^
[07:50] <Littlegator> ikonia: yes, right click > stretch icon
[07:50] <almi1> unop, xorg.conf says that i have support for a lot of resulotions
[07:50] <ikonia> Littlegator: right click on the icon ?
[07:50] <Littlegator> ikonia: yes
[07:50] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the Microsoft Windows compatibility ?
[07:50] <ikonia> Littlegator: aahhhh thats only one icon - you can do it globally
[07:50] <tcpip> !ntfs-3g
[07:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:50] <Littlegator> ikonia: oh, well I wanted to resize only one
[07:51] <ikonia> thats perfect then
[07:51] <_chm0d_> grrrr why is ubuntu so finicky on sound
[07:51] <ikonia> didn't know you could do that
[07:51] <Littlegator> ikonia: but if I ever want to do it globally I'll look it up
[07:51] <almi1> unop, isn't there just a litte command to change this? :P
[07:51] <ikonia> Littlegator: good man
[07:51] <Psy> got my wireless connectiont o connect - status idle, but ti can;t ping or be pinged, any help would be apreciated :)
[07:51] <unop> almi1,  for the particular depth you want to use, , you need to set the mode you want to be the first in the list .. as xorg tests them in that order
[07:51] <AmaroqWolf> Littlegator, I think you can just edit the image in your pixmaps dir
[07:52] <styx2005> hi
[07:52] <robinQuivers> okay hmmmm bad. i just ran updates and now my panels and menus are not responding. luckily i had my chat window up here. how can i fix this?
[07:53] <andre_> ikonia: ok I'm on .10,  the drivers do work here...  when do you expect the drivers to be updated for .11?
[07:53] <Yodude> hey is anybody here from Lebanon? i have a question for him
[07:53] <bulmer> robinQuivers: maybe just wait longer..
[07:53] <unop> almi1,  say you use a depth of 24 -- change the Modes directive like this -  Modes     "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" ....
[07:53] <Yodude> :)
[07:53] <ikonia> andre I wouldn't imagine it will be long
[07:53] <andre_> ikonia: ok tx
[07:53] <andre_> ikonia: appreciate the help
[07:53] <robinQuivers> bulmer: nothing is working. the computer is mentally silent and ready to do something
[07:53] <ikonia> andre no problem
[07:53] <robinQuivers> nothing is working = cpu and hard drive arent crunching
[07:54] <AmaroqWolf> Youdude, I'm not from lebanon, but I know someone online who is. xD They don't use linux though, if it's a linux question.
[07:54] <unop> Psy,  what can't be pinged?
[07:54] <MFen> anyone know how to make postfix forward based on domain?
[07:54] <AmaroqWolf> Youdude: and they're not online now either.
[07:54] <Psy> unop, the router
[07:54] <MFen> for example, i want user@blah_spams.thesoftworld.com to forward to user+blah_spams@gmail.com
[07:54] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the Microsoft Windows compatibility ?
[07:54] <almi1> unop, DefaultDepth	24 it says and on that section Modes		"1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400"
[07:54] <unop> Psy,  has the wireless interface got an IP address
[07:54] <MFen> (yeah, i know about google apps .. i don't want a separate mailbox)
[07:55] <Thug-N-Me> no one able to help ? getting rid of the Microsoft Windows compatibility ?
[07:55] <robinQuivers> so yea this is definitely a problem. my panels and menus are still not responding. help?
[07:55] <Psy> yep
[07:55] <Psy> it can ping its self
[07:55] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: not when you spam the channel
[07:55] <MFen> note that i already know how to set up forwards.  i want a wildcard forward
[07:55] <Psy> hmm hangon - could it be it's tring to use the wired connection first? *disconnects lan cable
[07:55] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia looks like its the only way i can be seen
[07:55] <MFen> users@*_*.thesoftworld.com
[07:55] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: makes you look a fool
[07:55] <Psy> nope still nothing
[07:55] <_chm0d_> im just installing the updates to kernel .11 this ought to be interesting
[07:56] <unop> almi1, hmm, have a look in the wiki, common fixes exist there -- !fixres
[07:56] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia aint no matter ... the fucking Microsoft Windows compatibility its pissing me off
[07:56] <ikonia> language !
[07:56] <ikonia> makes you look even more of a fool
[07:56] <riotkittie> oh! my virgin ears. :o
[07:56] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia ohh stop it
[07:56] <robinQuivers> wow linux is great... ive already crashed it somehow. =-\
[07:56] <PwcrLinux> !language
[07:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:56] <ikonia> just show some respect
[07:56] <unop> Psy,  is the IP address static or via DHCP ?
[07:56] <ikonia> there is no need for bad language
[07:56] <Psy> static
[07:56] <almi1> unop, i'll that one a try, but it's not fluxbox i have to modify its xOrg right?
[07:56] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: err. how did you crash it?
[07:57] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia hell yeah ... you can ignore me if you dont like it .. end of story
[07:57] <robinQuivers> riotkittie: my panels and menus arent responding
[07:57] <robinQuivers> i only have this chat window up
[07:57] <robinQuivers> luckily.
[07:57] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: no, I mean the channel doesn't need to see the language
[07:57] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: ah. GNOME?
[07:57] <robinQuivers> this happened after i ran the updates... just installed ubuntu.
[07:57] <robinQuivers> i guess, yea? gnome isnt responding
[07:57] <unop> almi1,  do you start flux from GDM or using startx ?
[07:57] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia sometimes it does ;)
[07:57] <ikonia> no its doesn't
[07:57] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: if you hit ALT+ F2, can you get a run box?
[07:57] <robinQuivers> no
[07:58] <PwcrLinux> ops is watching for languages, they can banning on you..
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia who are you to tell me what the channel does and what not ?
[07:58] <almi1> unop, i dont know what GDM is but i sure don't use startx
[07:58] <soundray> Which package provides the Print dialog in gnome please?
[07:58] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: no problem, I'll just go and grab an op to ban you
[07:58] <robinQuivers> yea alt + f2 yields nothing
[07:58] <unop> Thug-N-Me,  this channel has kids and women come in too -- just be a little considerate .. it;s easier not to swear , everyone's happy that way
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia if that will make you happy go for it
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> unop fair enough
[07:59] <ikonia> it won't be all you had to say was "yup - sorry about the language"
[07:59] <dimeotane> is there any file archiving & compression formats in ubuntu which support passwords and encryption?  Zip does, but is only 96-bit ... quite insecure
[07:59] <riotkittie> robinQuivers: ok. do this. ALT + CTRL + F1   ... login, type killall gnome-panel   ... then alt+ctrl+f7 back to the desktop. OR restart X all together with ALT + CTRL + BKSPC
[07:59] <Psy> unop, it's static, subnet mask is correct
[07:59] <ikonia> you just had to show a little respect for the channels rules
[07:59] <unop> Psy,  ahh, but is the gateway correct tho?
[07:59] <juano__> Thug-N-Me: watch the language in here
[07:59] <Psy> could it be a routing problem, if the connection is showing as active?
[07:59] <robinQuivers> riotkittie: okay hmmm i hope i dont lose this chat window
[07:59] <Psy> yep, gateway is fine
[07:59] <davide> somebody know how to configure a dlink 650+ on ubuntu 6.06?
[07:59] <Psy> although
[08:00] <Psy> it's nto showing gateway under ifconfig
[08:00] <unop> Psy, ifconfig doesnt list it -- you need  route -n  for that
[08:00] <riotkittie> dlink 650?      what do you need to configure, davide ?
[08:00] <juano__> Psy: type route
[08:00] <Thug-N-Me> juano__ how many times have you seen me swearing  ?
[08:00] <juano__> Psy: you should add your router to the routing table
[08:00] <ikonia> once
[08:00] <davide> it doesn't work riotkittie
[08:00] <Psy> dest 0.0.0.0 gw 10.0.0.61
[08:00] <AmaroqWolf> tokj: lol, BUFH.
[08:01] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia i wasnt talking to you
[08:01] <ikonia> just responding
[08:01] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia no need to
[08:01] <robinQuivers> heh... okay i ran alt+ctrl+backspace and lots all my windows but now im back in and ubuntu informed me i needed to restart to make the updates work fully. thanks :)
[08:01] <unop> Psy,  and 10.0.0.61 is the address of your router, right?
[08:01] <Psy> yep
[08:01] <juano__> Thug-N-Me: i saw you swear just a minute ago, just be cool man, no need to swear in here
[08:01] <riotkittie> davide: is it a wireless card ?
[08:01] <unop> Psy,  can i ask why you arent using DHCP ?
[08:01] <Thug-N-Me> juano__ yeah no problem
[08:02] <Psy> too many other systems
[08:02] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: dude - thank you, thats all I wanted, just to see it was an oversite
[08:02] <davide> yes, but it seems it doesn't work. there is no light
[08:02] <Psy> need to keep the server on the same ip
[08:02] <alsa> need help reinstalling grub in rescue mode , from the live dvd installation
[08:02] <Psy> and the media centre
[08:02] <Psy> and the machines the media centre looks at for media
[08:02] <Psy> etc
[08:02] <unop> Psy,  eh? how many other systems ?
[08:02] <juano__> Thug-N-Me: thanks , its just a channel rule
[08:02] <pbureau> !enter | Psy
[08:02] <ubotu> Psy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:02] <Psy> the others are all windows
[08:02] <Thug-N-Me> no problem at all man
[08:03] <Psy> 13 other machines on the netowrk - they're working fine
[08:03] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: now lets sort out your windows compatability, do you want to explain the problem
[08:03] <Psy> sorry ubotu
[08:03] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia i would like to enable it
[08:03] <unop> Psy,  but if you configure the DHCP server right, you can ensure that the server always gets the same IP address .. and if its a server, its quite likely to relinquish the lease .. so i dont see that as much of an issue
[08:03] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: at what level ? disk access I assume ?
[08:03] <juano__> Psy: whats the IP of the machine with trouble ?
[08:03] <Psy> 10.0.0.75
[08:03] <pockito> hi... i changed my hw on my ubuntu box. but when restarting the graphic device is not recognized/detected.. how do i tell ubuntu to redetect my hw?
[08:03] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia what do you mean at what level ?
[08:04] <ikonia> pockito: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <Psy> unop, i know it an be done - but my dad prefers it static - not much i can do there :)
[08:04] <pockito> ok. ill try that
[08:04] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: could you define what your want in terms of compatability
[08:04] <juano__> Psy: you should try in that machine a sudo route add default gw 10.0.0.61 ---> if this is the IP of the router
[08:04] <davide> there is any program I should use in order to configure the d-link 650+ wireless card?
[08:04] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: eg: access the disk, etc
[08:04] <unop> Psy,  anyway .. for the sakes of troubleshooting this .. try DHCP out.. you can always revert back if it's successful
[08:04] <riotkittie> davide: ok, i am super stupid when it comes to wireless. i have a 650 as well, and it did work out of teh box but i am merely tapping into other people's unsecured wireless. are you using a router or whatever ?
[08:04] <alsa> any one here can help regarding Grub reinstall in rescue mode
[08:04] <alsa> !grub
[08:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:04] <davide> yes
[08:05] <nalioth> !ohmy | Thug-N-Me
[08:05] <ubotu> Thug-N-Me: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:05] <davide> but I can't setup the wireless card
[08:05] <AmaroqWolf> alsa: sudo apt-get reinstall grub ? *chuckles*
[08:05] <Psy> juano__, i got SIACADDRT: File exists
[08:05] <juano__> Psy: also a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to ensure changes are applying
[08:05] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia no clue what you are talking about .. i try to burn a dvd and i get the warning about the windows compatability not being able to write the disk and stuff
[08:05] <davide> I read it was automatic during the ubuntu installation but...
[08:05] <Psy> unop - that would involve taking the network down - not an option unfortunately :(
[08:05] <riotkittie> davide: you shouldnt need to set the card up.  in it listed when you type lspci ?
[08:05] <unop> Psy,  you dont need to add a new route -- as the same exists already
[08:05] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: ahhh ok. Totally different to what I was thinking
[08:06] <davide> I try now..
[08:06] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: could you get the exact error message for me please
[08:06] <AmaroqWolf> oh wait, *reads that link*
[08:06] <unop> Psy,  taking what network down ?? it's just re-enabling your wireless interface
[08:06] <juano__> Psy: ok, sudo route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 default gw 10.0.061 dev eth0    -----> eth0 can vary actually , you give your device in that part
[08:06] <juano__> Psy: ok, sudo route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 default gw 10.0.0.61 dev eth0    -----> forgot the poing before 61
[08:06] <rodrigo> HI all
[08:07] <riotkittie> brb
[08:07] <unop> juano__, the route's already configured tho
[08:07] <davide> it says "02:00.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface
[08:07] <davide> "
[08:07] <alsa> need help reinstalling grub in rescue mode , from the live dvd installation
[08:07] <juano__> unop: ok, sometimes that helps though , works for me
[08:07] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia not really because not i lost 2 blank dvd already trying to write the same files again i will lost another one
[08:08] <juano__> alsa:
[08:08] <juano__> alsa: sure
[08:08] <juano__> alsa: are you on livecd now ?
[08:08] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: ahhh, thats a drag. Its hard to work out whats its complaining about without the exact message. You may want to check the forums though and see if anything rings any bells
[08:08] <FantasticFoo> can anybody please help me get the motion preferences to affect my laptop trackpad?
[08:09] <Shaffox> how can i put a shortcut to a program ?
[08:09] <alsa> yeah
[08:09] <dabaR_> Shaffox: it is called a launcher
[08:09] <unop> juano__,  well, he cant ping the gw at 10.0.0.61, so it's unlikely to be the default route
[08:09] <Littlegator> I'm having trouble customizing usplash and the ubuntu wiki/provided guide aren't helping
[08:09] <Audimage> I just installed Unreal Tournament 2004, and i cannot figure out how to execute it
[08:09] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia it tries to rename the files .. so that it can be readed in windows too ... like filnename.something!.  you get me all this dots and ! are not allowed in windows
[08:09] <grimboy> FantasticFoo,What model is your laptop?
[08:10] <Shaffox> dabaR_: where can i find it ?
[08:10] <juano__> unop: ahh, he on wifi ?
[08:10] <apecat> Audimage: where is it installed?
[08:10] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: have you tried using a different dvd burining application ?
[08:10] <dabaR_> Shaffox: right click on the desktop
[08:10] <unop> juano__,  yes
[08:10] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia no
[08:10] <Psy> that line just rought up a usage: thing
[08:10] <Audimage> apecat, i installed it into the default directory, i didn't pay any attention
[08:10] <grimboy> FantasticFoo, You might already have something under preferences> touchpad.
[08:10] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: inspiron 2200
[08:10] <davide> riotkittie, what I should do then?
[08:10] <Psy> identical to how you put it...
[08:10] <dabaR_> Shaffox: try to do what you think you should be able to do, and it will work.
[08:10] <juano__> unop: his device is ath0 then
[08:10] <ikonia> Thug-N-Me: give another one a go
[08:10] <juano__> unop: or something like that
[08:10] <apecat> Audimage: you just need to locate the executable and launch it
[08:10] <juano__> unop: he try iwconfig ?
[08:10] <unop> juano__,  heh, how can you be sure? it could be anything
[08:10] <amonbish> sup
[08:10] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: naw, nothing like that
[08:11] <Audimage> apecat, i know...however, i can't find it
[08:11] <PwcrLinux> Oh boy, demuxer missing on xgine..
[08:11] <AmaroqWolf> audimage, if you installed it under wine, it'll be somewhere in ~/.wine/drive_c/
[08:11] <juano__> unop: well it mostly is the default, if thats the only card in the PC
[08:11] <dhorn> anyone have the time to quickly help me with drivers?
[08:11] <grimboy> FantasticFoo, Have you turned on the extra repos?
[08:11] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: yes.
[08:11] <apecat> Audimage: try using the command which unr ... and tab complete
[08:11] <Audimage> amaroqwolf, ut2004 runs natively in linux
[08:11] <AmaroqWolf> Audimage: oh. xD okay
[08:11] <ikonia> dhorn: drivers with what
[08:11] <unop> juano__,  well, he says the net-applet detects signal strength .. he hasnt done iwlist scan yet tho .. he should tho
[08:11] <EdgEy> hello, i'm using feisty and suddenly my ethernet has stopped working completely
[08:12] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: why?
[08:12] <grimboy> Fanskapet, apt-get install gsynaptics
[08:12] <juano__> unop: yes your right, he should do it
[08:12] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: ah. thankyou
[08:12] <Flannel> EdgEy: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[08:12] <unop> Psy, what does this return -- iwlist wlan0 scan
[08:12] <EdgEy> i can't access the internet (router) or ping any other machines on the network
[08:12] <amonbish> no
[08:12] <ikonia> EdgEy: fesity is unstable and underdevelopment
[08:12] <Psy> iwlist wlan0 ...?
[08:12] <AmaroqWolf> Audimage: If you know the names of any of the files in it's dir, you could just run a locate on that.
[08:12] <Psy> scan, ok
[08:12] <dhorn> ikonia: i installed unbuntu on my ibm r52 and the video card isn't able to go to the max supported resolution of 1400x1200
[08:12] <dhorn> ikonia: any suggestion?
[08:12] <unop> Psy,  replace wlan0 there with your wireless interface's
[08:12] <Psy> got cell 01 and cell 02
[08:12] <ikonia> dhorn: ati card?
[08:12] <AmaroqWolf> Audimage: sudo updatedb before running the locate though.
[08:12] <apecat> Audimage: as in try to write the biginning letters of the word unreal and see if you get anything with tabcomplete
[08:12] <Psy> one is my network - the other is one i dont know
[08:12] <apecat> in a term
[08:13] <Audimage> apecat, i tried and nothing showed up
[08:13] <LinTux> where can I get info on the next April release of Ubuntu
[08:13] <apecat> k
[08:13] <Psy> mine is wlan0 also
[08:13] <dhorn> ikonia: no, integrated intel, 915GM
[08:13] <ikonia> dhorn: really thats strange
[08:13] <dhorn> ikonia: it only lists one available resolution
[08:13] <gapagos> hi i need help when I boot in knoppix I get no video signal after knoppix starts to load the x window server
[08:14] <dhorn> ikonia: 1280X1024
[08:14] <ikonia> dhorn: what version of ubuntu
[08:14] <dhorn> 6.10
[08:14] <Audimage> i'll just try re-installing it
[08:14] <gapagos> i tried with default options and with fb1280x1024
[08:14] <ikonia> ahhh xorg 7.1.1
[08:14] <ikonia> dhorn: there have been a few problems with xorg 7.1.1 and the i810 driver
[08:14] <dhorn> ikonia: suggestions?
[08:14] <unop> Psy, ok .. how does iwlist fare with your wireless interface? can you show us the result .. use a !pastebin
[08:15] <ikonia> dhorn: check the info on the i810 driver's compatability
[08:15] <Psy> it's another machine unfortunately unop
[08:15] <FantasticFoo> grimboy: sensitivity makes no difference.
[08:15] <jrib> !feisty | LinTux
[08:15] <ubotu> LinTux: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <Psy> ok trying to ping 10.0.0.61 and i now get a dest host unreachable from 10.0.0.75
[08:15] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: I also have an i810. What are you having trouble with?
[08:15] <dhorn> ikonia: I'm relatively new to ubuntu and *nix, where would I find that info
[08:15] <ikonia> dhorn: www.x.org
[08:15] <Psy> iwlist found 2 networks from what i can see
[08:15] <gapagos> can anyone help me why I get no video in knoppix after the xwindow server starts to load or is this really ubuntu only?
[08:16] <ikonia> gapagos: this is ubuntu support - not knoppix
[08:16] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: I have the Intel 815GM integrated chipset and I can't get my resolution higher than 1280X1024
[08:16] <dhorn> ikonia: thanks
[08:16] <grimboy> FantasticFoo, No idea then. Do a search of the repos for other config programs and drivers or search the ubuntu wikis for your model.
[08:16] <gapagos> ikonia: would you know if there's a knoppix support chat room? I tried in forums I can't find my issue
[08:17] <davide> thanks riotkittie
[08:17] <apecat>  gapagos: /join #knoppix
[08:17] <ikonia> gapagos: #knoppix
[08:17] <Funtwo> hello can anyone reference me to a good repo for Edgy for use with media and other famous apps?
[08:17] <gapagos> thank you ikonia / apecat
[08:17] <EdgEy> is there anything i should try for getting ethernet to work, noone seems to be alive in #ubuntu+1
[08:17] <_`XeOn_> how do i make a mounted partition ntfs writtable?
[08:17] <EdgEy> _`XeOn_ look into ntfs-3g
[08:17] <ikonia> EdgEy: its alpha software - could be anything
[08:17] <[BTF] Chm0d> well i ran the updates everything seems to be ok so far :)
[08:18] <dabaR_> EdgEy: give it a raise.
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <_`XeOn_> kk
[08:18] <EdgEy> though be aware there is a certain bit of risk in writing to ntfs
[08:18] <apecat> gapagos: if we do recommend any of those, you need to understand that those rpos aren't officially supported
[08:18] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: you there?
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:18] <EdgEy> ikonia, i know that, but where can i start? there's not much i can do at the moment, i'm stuck on feisty unless there is a backport of the newer nvidia drivers
[08:18] <Funtwo> yes i know
[08:18] <JosS> http://meneame.net/story/bluetooth-hacking-seguridad-telefonos-moviles  |||| dale donde dice MENEAME!!!
[08:19] <apecat> sorry, that was to Funtwo
[08:19] <pbureau> buzz off josh
[08:19] <_`XeOn_> !ntfs-3g
[08:19] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:19] <ikonia> joss STOP
[08:19] <LinTux> Ubotu & jrib: Thanks
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jrib: thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <Jawshie> Hi guys :)
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> low and behold my i have no sound now LOL
[08:19] <[BTF] Chm0d> sigh
[08:19] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: oh xD I figured you were thinking along the lines of getting direct draw enabled. I believe you can add more resolutions to the config by messing with x-server's config file. But I don't know about if that card has limits or anything like that, so don't hold me to what I say about that. But you can modify your config file with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Just leave all of the settings the way they are, and modify
[08:19] <AmaroqWolf> the one you need when you get to it. Once again, don't hold me to that. xD We're entering territory I'm not entirely familiar with.
[08:20] <gapagos> another question I have is.... I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS..... could I download Ubuntu 6.10 and install it separately, on another partition, and boot 6,06 OR 6.10?
[08:20] <EdgEy> gapagos yes
[08:20] <assasukasse> could someone tell me what is this error
[08:20] <assasukasse> make: execvp: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic/scripts/gcc-version.sh: denied [: 1: 0400: unexpected operator
[08:20] <Jawshie> Is there an upgerade path for 6.06-6.10?
[08:20] <[BTF] Chm0d> i just dont understand how sound can just quit and ubuntu now doesn't see my audio.  just dont understand
[08:20] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: thanks, I'm looking on x.org now and it looks like there's an issue with my chipset and the xorg driver
[08:20] <gapagos> I,m asking this question because I heard 6.10 is very buggy and i don't want to upgrade but I desesperately want to try Beryl's 3d world lol
[08:20] <Jawshie> upgrade*
[08:20] <Flannel> Jawshie: yep, just normal upgrade
[08:20] <dabaR> assasukasse: did you ask google?
[08:20] <ikonia> assasukasse: what are you trying to build - and why
[08:21] <pbureau> [BTF] Chm0d, checkdmesg or /etc/messages for more info. maybe it quit because of internal error
[08:21] <assasukasse> ikonia i am trying to build ugrab-winmodem with checkinstall
[08:21] <ompaul> Jawshie, yes - as long as you have not installed materials from repos outside of Ubuntu you should be okay
[08:21] <ompaul> !upgrade
[08:21] <[BTF] Chm0d> ill looky thx
[08:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:21] <Jawshie> is there like an apt-get repository thingy for a 3d enviroment?
[08:22] <Flannel> Jawshie: #ubuntu-effects for all that stuff (check the topic)
[08:22] <Jawshie> k thanks
[08:22] <ikonia> Jawshie: yes - search the wiki for beryl
[08:22] <juano__> does anyone know a good .avi to DVD image program _??
[08:22] <birdsixone> What command do I type to view what kernel I have?
[08:23] <Flannel> birdsixone: uname -r
[08:23] <ikonia> birdsixone: uname -a
[08:23] <Yodude> hey when i download stuff from the repository
[08:23] <ikonia> then you can see the arch too
[08:23] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: I know that when I use 1280x1024 on 24 bit color, my monitor gets funny staticky lines on it. I prefer to use 1024x768 anyway, so I've never tried what you're trying. If your graphics are running slow for games and graphic-intensive programs, I do know that that card only supports direct draw in 16 bit color.
[08:23] <JAGFin1> Anyone got experience with KDE Network Manager?
[08:23] <qeed> juano__, you want to make a dvd movie out of an avi?
[08:23] <Yodude> can i save the packages i downloaded on a disk or something?
[08:23] <ikonia> Yodude: its easer to just download and install
[08:23] <dabaR> !anyone > JAGFin1
[08:23] <juano__> qeed: yes
[08:23] <[BTF] Chm0d> hmm it says nothing about it
[08:23] <Flannel> Yodude: sure, they're in /var/cache/apt
[08:24] <Yodude> so i can't?
[08:24] <hotsauce> how can i install a bare system without x on a server?
[08:24] <qeed> juano__, i use ffmpeg to encode the avi movie to mpeg
[08:24] <ikonia> Yodude:  you can - but why save them ?
[08:24] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: there's a package available for the 800 and 900 intel chipsets that corrects the resolution error.  I'm trying it now
[08:24] <ompaul> hotlug, download and install the server edition
[08:24] <Flannel> hotsauce: grab the alternate CD, or server CD.
[08:24] <qeed> dvdauthor can create the dvd structure to be burned to the dvd
[08:24] <dabaR> ikonia: they get saved autom..
[08:24] <Littlegator> arghhh
[08:24] <juano__> qeed: are these available in the repos ?
[08:24] <dumbalien> anyone help with hd troubles?
[08:24] <jumpkick> hi, if I do a `uname -m`, I get x86_64...  is there a command that will tell me the name of the packaging arch -> i.e. something to give me 'amd64'?
[08:24] <Yodude> i want to to save time so i can just add them next time
[08:24] <dabaR> !anyone > dumbalien
[08:24] <EdgEy> when i unplug/replug my ethernet cable /var/log/dmesg shows it
[08:24] <qeed> juano__, i think dvdauthor is, not sure about ffmpeg
[08:25] <EdgEy> yet i can't ping other machines
[08:25] <Yodude> c u
[08:25] <ikonia> jumpkick: your runnning amd64
[08:25] <Yodude> thnkx :)
[08:25] <EdgEy> hinking maybe dhcp is the problem ?
[08:25] <ikonia> thats what 86_64 is
[08:25] <juano__> qeed: can you guide me a bit with it ?
[08:25] <juano__> qeed: after i download dvdauthor
[08:25] <gapagos> hey guys, how easy / difficult is Genatoo compared to ubuntu?
[08:25] <dabaR> EdgEy: do you have a proper IP address?
[08:25] <assasukasse> any idea why i keep getting those errors?
[08:25] <juano__> qeed: i got ffmpeg installed yea from repos
[08:25] <Littlegator> I'm having trouble changing my usplash, the guide says to find the directory "usplash-theme-fingerprint.so" but that file doesn't exist
[08:25] <ikonia> gapagos: as differnet /easy/hard as you make it
[08:25] <EdgEy> dabaR it should be assigned by the router
[08:25] <dumbalien> after mounting on livecd it shows files
[08:25] <jumpkick> ikonia: I know, but I need to set amd64 in a makefile, if it's running on an amd64...  but I don't know how to get that from the OS
[08:25] <ikonia> assasukasse: because the package is not compatible with those headers
[08:26] <qeed> juano__, even though i said dvdauthor, i don't use it, since it's a bit complex for me to understand, i use windows to make dvd structure
[08:26] <ikonia> jumpkick: what makefile ?
[08:26] <juano__> qeed: ok dvdauthor is too
[08:26] <dabaR> EdgEy: run ifconfig in a terminal and see whether there is a proper IP address from the router.
[08:26] <assasukasse> ikonia sudo make install works
[08:26] <apecat> gapagos: kind of a bizarre question to ask here, but i'd say it's very diffficult. gentoo is a source based distribution
[08:26] <EdgEy> okay
[08:26] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: okay. Good luck with that. I have never had any use for large res's, so I don't need that. I am curiuos about what package it is though.
[08:26] <ikonia> assasukasse: no it doesn't, because make didn't work
[08:26] <jumpkick> ikonia: a project I'm working on
[08:26] <gapagos> hm, then I'll take for granted that Genatoo is too hard for me
[08:26] <jumpkick> it doesn't matter
[08:26] <qeed> juano__, the flags you need to make an avi to a dvd mpeg movie, is ffmpeg -i <avifile> -target ntsc-dvd(or pal-dvd) -ab 192 output.mpg
[08:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> ok what do you do when there is nothing in dmesg about my sound?  My sound for some reason just quit
[08:26] <jumpkick> I'll try to google it more
[08:26] <ikonia> jumpkick: if you just give me detail I can help you
[08:26] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: 915resolution is the name of the package
[08:27] <gapagos> if it wasn,t for the atomatix packacge, i probably wouldn't be using Ubuntu :-P
[08:27] <juano__> qeed: let me try it, sec
[08:27] <ompaul> !automatix
[08:27] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:27] <ikonia> gapagos: thats a bad package
[08:27] <Jawshie> Oh do I have to have the Edgy cd to upgrade to it from dapper or can i just use some miracle command line cute
[08:27] <Jawshie> cure
[08:27] <jumpkick> ikonia: I need the shell to return 'amd64' from a command, that's it
[08:27] <ompaul> gapagos, you can't upgrade if you have used that
[08:27] <EdgEy> dabaR - ifconfig shows nothing, ifconfig eth0 shows some info but no IP addresses
[08:27] <apecat> gapagos: gentoo is a very powerful and customizable tool, but do you have all the time, willingness to learn and.. patience it takes to get it running and keeping the system up to date? that's what you've got to ask yourself before you try gentoo on an important machine
[08:27] <ompaul> !nickspam _Chm0d_
[08:27] <dumbalien> hd shows in bios, not in windows, when i mount it on the livecd i can view folders once. after that it fails to open again
[08:27] <ikonia> jumpkick: thats amd64 isn't an arch though
[08:27] <ompaul> !nickspam | _Chm0d_
[08:27] <ubotu> _Chm0d_: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[08:27] <EdgEy> i can't copy/paste since it's on a different machine
[08:27] <tcpip> any similar app like squid??
[08:27] <_Chm0d_> it was a typo jesus
[08:27] <Flannel> Jawshie: sure you can it without a CD, yeah.  It's on that page.  with update manager, or changing your sources.list
[08:27] <gapagos> ikonia why is it a bad package? it worked like a charm for me
[08:27] <HymnToLife> Jawshie, if you have the CD; the best bet would be do to a fresh install
[08:28] <Flannel> !worksforme | gapagos
[08:28] <ubotu> gapagos: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:28] <gapagos> apecat yup I indeed do not have such a patience therefore it's not meant for me lol
[08:28] <jumpkick>  ikonia: *_i386.deb, *_amd64.deb
[08:28] <tcpip> !squid
[08:28] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[08:28] <jumpkick>  ikonia: nevermind
[08:28] <hotsauce> how asinine to tell someone not to change their nick in a channel
[08:28] <ikonia> jumpkick: thats just package names - not an arch
[08:28] <ikonia> jumpkick: I'm interested in helping
[08:28] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: You know what I find odd? Is that my card is listed on IBM's site as an i815, but xorg has it as an i810. I tried to set that config to make it i815, but that broke my x-server. xD I had to figure out how to edit files from a terminal to fix it.
[08:28] <Jawshie> Err is it worth upgrading to edgy?
[08:28] <ikonia> don't give up
[08:28] <juano__> qeed: ok its working
[08:29] <juano__> qeed: its encoding to mpg
[08:29] <ikonia> AmaroqWolf: i810 is the driver name package
[08:29] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: although... I might've mistaken i815 for the series of audio card I'm using.
[08:29] <assasukasse> ikonia how can i know which header is needed, i mean i am using those drivers and they do work, how come they still do if i changed kernel
[08:29] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: oh
[08:29] <juano__> qeed: after that, what do i need to do to make it playable in DVD players ?
[08:29] <jumpkick> ikonia: this is what I needed `dpkg --print-architecture`
[08:29] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: did you see what ikonia said?
[08:29] <qeed> juano__, dvdauthor does that part, but it's way to complex for me to use
[08:29] <jumpkick> now I'm good
[08:29] <ikonia> assasukasse: if you are using these drivers on ubuntu - why are you trying to rebuild
[08:29] <Jowi_n1> AmaroqWolf, i810 covers a whole range of chipsets
[08:29] <dumbalien> mounted hardrive showed files once!! (on livecd) know it denies access !!! any help ??
[08:29] <ikonia> jumpkick: ahhh I see
[08:29] <AmaroqWolf> dhorn: so, it's not referencing the actual card, but rather a driver package?
[08:30] <dhorn> AmaroqWolf: correct
[08:30] <qeed> juano__, i use this program called dvdauthor from pegasys inc in windows to do that
[08:30] <juano__> qeed: what do you use in windows ?
[08:30] <AmaroqWolf> Okay xD Now I know.
[08:30] <[mg] Zimmerman> nvidia kernel module differs from x module version -- any help folks?
[08:30] <qeed> look above
[08:30] <juano__> qeed: ok, ill try that in windows
[08:30] <assasukasse> ikonia i am gonna update to feisty
[08:30] <apecat> gapagos: well then there you go ;). but it *is* a healthy learning experience, and the documentation and the cummunity support is phenomenal. try it on a secondary machine first. another distro you might want to try to learn stuff is slackware. it's not source based, so it's quicker to install
[08:30] <assasukasse> and i want to try if they rebuild before i do
[08:30] <qeed> juano__, nero vision is good too
[08:30] <ikonia> assasukasse: thats different headers that are probably not supportd
[08:30] <juano__> qeed: i got Nero yea
[08:31] <gapagos> apecat staying too much on my pc is not a healthy experience, for me :-P but thanks for the heads up lol
[08:31] <apecat> gapagos: ;)
[08:31] <juano__> qeed: how much time aprox does it take to encode ?
[08:31] <[mg] Zimmerman> nvidia kernel module differs from x module version -- any help folks?
[08:31] <qeed> juano__, depends how long the movie is
[08:31] <juano__> qeed: its like a 2 hour movie
[08:31] <davee> [mg] Zimmerman: Edgy upgrade broke your nvidia support?
[08:32] <juano__> qeed: its Xvid
[08:32] <qeed> juano__, hmm, well 1.8 GHZ P4 here takes around 4 hours for one pass
[08:32] <assasukasse> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <HymnToLife> [mg] Zimmerman, there was a kernel update today, make sure you have the nvidia module matching the new kernel
[08:32] <juano__> qeed: ok
[08:32] <Wowbagger> Hey, I'm trying to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, but when I click 'Upgrade' I get this error message: "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server."
[08:33] <dumbalien> using livecd. How do i check my hd that i can not access?
[08:33] <juano__> qeed: it would be cool if a % showed up
[08:33] <davee> HymnToLife: The current state of Edgy's kernel, though, is that the kernel proper is newer than linux-restricted-modules
[08:33] <assasukasse> ikonia could you look at this
[08:33] <assasukasse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5299/
[08:33] <davee> HymnToLife: This breaks nvidia and others
[08:33] <yeniklasor> Feisty? Is it newest ubuntu?
[08:34] <bulmer> dumbalien: fdisk -l
[08:34] <unop> !feisty
[08:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <dumbalien> it shows up
[08:34] <EdgEy> is there a way to download the new package lists on one computer, to move to another that doesn't have internet
[08:34] <ompaul> yeniklasor, it is not stable
[08:34] <EdgEy> i need to check what updates are available and then copy hem from another computer to install
[08:34] <dumbalien> i have mounted it, and the files showed up once
[08:34] <yeniklasor> ok thanks
[08:34] <unop> yeniklasor,  it's not released yet -- so it can't be new -- but it will be soon
[08:34] <ikonia> assasukasse: look ok
[08:34] <leo_> is it just me or xchat-gnome from feisty segfault?
[08:34] <yeniklasor> April ;)
[08:34] <AmaroqWolf> I love how in a room full of people knowledgeable about ubuntu, there is no single 'awesome' user who knows everything about everything. There's so many things to know about it, that our knowledges are diverse and we can always help eachother, as the expert in one situation may find himself the inexperianced in another.
[08:35] <hotsauce> heh..ok
[08:35] <juano__> qeed: its going at a 4500.0/kbits/s and and growing
[08:35] <Wowbagger> Hey, I'm trying to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, but when I click 'Upgrade' I get this error message: "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server."
[08:35] <txdv> jeeez im sick of installing ruby and gems on ubuntu
[08:35] <assasukasse> ikonia does it request full kernel tree or just headers? it says tree
[08:35] <ikonia> just headers
[08:35] <Flannel> Wowbagger: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[08:35] <[mg] Zimmerman> Davee: when I the latest nvidia drivers attempt to install they can't pull down a kernel so they compile the oldest legacy one
[08:35] <unop> AmaroqWolf,  it's how everything in the world works, why would it be different in ubuntu? :)
[08:35] <[mg] Zimmerman> Davee: where would I go to get the newest nvidia module
[08:35] <HymnToLife> davee, I'll take your word for it, I'm runing exclusively custom kernels
[08:35] <Wowbagger> thx
[08:35] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: i consider myself an intermiate user who is too lazy to learn everything. that's why i stay with ubuntu and debian ;)
[08:36] <apecat> *intermediate
[08:36] <PwcrLinux> My DVD player still choppy, last checked on DMA still "on" on the hdc. and even demuxer missing
[08:36] <Tox> hi , cud u answer me why net indicator always shows that recieve incoming conection
[08:36] <qeed> juano__, fast cpu :)
[08:36] <Flannel> EdgEy: /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin, I believe those are the only files (Although, that doesnt mean it's right ;)
[08:36] <juano__> qeed: 3.0 GHZ
[08:37] <davee> HymnToLife: Yeah, I'm seeing remarkbly little info about this bug, because anyone with an nvidia card would have got breakage, simply by applying the automatic updates...
[08:37] <apecat> Tox: and you aren't receibing incoming connections?
[08:37] <juano__> qeed: :)
[08:37] <Psy> juano__, i managed to add that route to my routing table - still no ping reply though. any more ideas?
[08:37] <Tox> it recieving ....
[08:37] <_apelsinchoklad_> i cant get the internet-conection work on my old imac.. help me. I'm a linux begginer..
[08:37] <juano__> Psy: did you try a iwlist <dev> scan ?
[08:37] <juano__> Psy try a iwconfig
[08:37] <AmaroqWolf> unop: x3 yeah, but some things are moreso that way than others. Say, a programming language. It isn't so diverse as much as it is simply levels of knowledge. apecat: I consider myself an intermediate user too. But learning more on linux and fixing problems that arise is so fun. Much more interesting than windows. :P
[08:37] <HymnToLife> davee, this is really bad, I'm wondering why a distro as mature as Ubuntu still has this kind of problems
[08:38] <dumbalien> does fdisk -l show up mounted hardrives ????
[08:38] <davee> HymnToLife: *nods*
[08:38] <deLatz> Hi there, my wlan adapter isn't named as wlan0 but instead as eth1 ... gnome network manager doesn't recognise my wireless therefore....
[08:38] <Psy> iwlist wlan0 scan shows me two wireless networks
[08:38] <Tox> only incoming even if there's no conection is active i mean browser other stuff
[08:38] <davee> HymnToLife: Especially, seeing as the symptom is that X just doesn't start.
[08:38] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: yes, it's fun without getting too much like slackware or gentoo :)
[08:38] <Skuller> hey guys...is there any reason for me to switch from Dapper to Edgy?
[08:38] <apecat> not that there's anything wrong with those two distros
[08:38] <mabus> How do i take a package off of hold with dpkg
[08:38] <tcpip> can anyone help me configuring squid
[08:39] <coNP> mabus: I guess dpkg generally ignores holds
[08:39] <juano__> AmaroqWolf: yeah i agree, you learn a lot solving issues
[08:39] <apecat> Skuller: probably not if you need to ask us that question
[08:39] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: *chuckles* From what I hear, it'll be quite some time before I'm good enough to attempt to install gentoo.
[08:39] <Tox> i connected thru some kind of modem it get me cable tv and internet
[08:39] <Flannel> !pin | mabus
[08:39] <ubotu> mabus: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[08:39] <mindstate> is there anyway i can have k3b without having the entire kde desktop environment
[08:39] <HymnToLife> AmaroqWolf, Gentoo is imo less confusing than Slack
[08:40] <Flannel> mindstate: yes, of course.  You do however need the KDE libs.
[08:40] <AmaroqWolf> HymnToLife, wow. There's something worse than gentoo? xD
[08:40] <HymnToLife> especially now, when you don't have to compile everything anymore
[08:40] <hotsauce> slack is on its EOL
[08:40] <_apelsinchoklad_> help somone??
[08:40] <kritical> Skuller, I don't know the official reasons, however they're always upgrading the software between distribution releases... I'd advised upgrading after each major release.. don't wanna get left behind :P
[08:40] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: if you're able to follow documentation there's nothing wrong with trying. chanches are that you'll learn to love it
[08:40] <juano__> Psy: try iwconfig , what does that show ?
[08:40] <Skuller> apecat: will i benefit from the LTS of 6.06 in any way, bcoz that is the only thing that is holding me back from switchin to Edgy (who doesnt want to ave the newer thing?)
[08:40] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: :P I do have an extra computer I could try it on.
[08:40] <mindstate> Flannel: well i installed the whole KDE and when i tried to uninstall it still left a bunch of KDE software ..how can i get rid of it?
[08:40] <Skuller> kritical: thnx....i guess i shud switch then
[08:41] <Psy> juano__ bit rate, essid, frequency etc details for my wlan0 interface
[08:41] <apecat> Skuller: you benefit from it by not needing to upgrade to get security fixes anytime soon
[08:41] <apecat> that's the pooint with lts
[08:41] <HymnToLife> mindstate, psychocats.net has a page about it
[08:41] <juano__> Psy: mm ok
[08:41] <kritical> Skuller, some people have had issues upgrading to edgy, make sure you google it, there's a proper way to do it
[08:41] <HymnToLife> mindstate, next time, use aptitude to install such things :p
[08:41] <Flannel> !upgrade | Skuller, kritical
[08:41] <ubotu> Skuller, kritical: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:41] <juano__> Psy: did you give it an IP ?
[08:41] <mindstate> HymnToLife: i checked that i tried it..and it tried to uninstall a whole lot of stuff that i installed..that isnt kde related
[08:41] <Psy> yup
[08:41] <apecat> Skuller: if you are somebody who just wants it to work right away, why fix something that isn't broken.
[08:42] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac..
[08:42] <juano__> Psy: also, which netmask did you give it ? , by using class A you should be using 255.0.0.0
[08:42] <HymnToLife> mindstate, I guess you'll just have to manually remove everything you don't want then
[08:42] <Skuller> Flannel: sorry, stupid question but after you rote !upgrade, wich key did u use to put that vertical bar?
[08:42] <Psy> no its using 255.255.255.0 - don;t ask em why :)
[08:42] <Psy> thats what the network is set to
[08:42] <K-Rich> i wonder if there is an XDMCP client for windows
[08:42] <juano__> Psy: this is if you are configuring static IP, i suppose you have DHCP enabled on the router
[08:42] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: well you have nothing to loose. except for your time and social life :)
[08:42] <Flannel> Skuller: shift-\ on most keyboards
[08:42] <Psy> no, it's disabled
[08:42] <apecat> but that's the fun of it
[08:42] <mindstate> HymnToLife: thats the problem, i dont what some stuff is called
[08:43] <gilgeai> slt
[08:43] <Flannel> K-Rich: cygwin is probably your best bet
[08:43] <HymnToLife> mindstate, just let it be then, it can't hurt
[08:43] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: xD I've been told it'll take two weeks for an about average smart person to set it up.
[08:43] <Skuller> Flannel: |....nice...thanx
[08:43] <juano__> Psy: mm ok, usually a 255.255.255.0 is a 192.168.x.x C class IP
[08:43] <Psy> yeh i know - the network settigns are correct though
[08:43] <Psy> same as the ones im using ont his pc
[08:43] <mindstate> HymnToLife: it'd free up some space :)
[08:44] <juano__> Psy ok
[08:44] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: yes and no, depending how fast your machine can compile stuff, how much stuff that will break, how many first timer mistakes you do etc ;)
[08:44] <gilgeai> Oh excuse my i'm half English ,half French and i speak French ,I speak english and my english is very pool
[08:44] <juano__> Psy: mm try ping 10.0.0.61
[08:44] <juano__> Psy: that aint working right ?
[08:44] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: lol, I see. x3
[08:44] <PwcrLinux> i'll bbl
[08:44] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac..
[08:44] <HymnToLife> mindstate, you could always open synaptic and spot everything that starts with a k :p
[08:44] <Psy> nope, i get 'FROM 10.0.0.75 icmp_seq=n dest host unreachab;e'
[08:44] <mindstate> HymnToLife: yes ill try that lol
[08:44] <mykhul> do you guys all tweak your machines to make the graphics and display stuff sweet and sexy?
[08:45] <gilgeai> oh
[08:45] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: keep in mind that gnome or kde takes something like 8 hours to compile on the athlon xp 2100/512 mb eam+ i'm writing this on
[08:45] <HymnToLife> mykhul, I sometimes do, when I'm bored :p
[08:45] <Simpleton> Hey, on all of the twinview guides it acts as if there is only one device
[08:45] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: whoa.
[08:45] <gilgeai> Do you speak French?
[08:45] <LjL> mykhul, that sounds more like a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:45] <LjL> !fr
[08:45] <ompaul> !fr
[08:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:45] <Simpleton> but on my xorg.conf nvidia's config created two videocard devices, one for each monitor
[08:45] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: what ghz is that?
[08:45] <midmood> Hi, i'm recompiling kernel aided by this guide http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/CompilazioneKernel
[08:45] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: 1.7
[08:46] <juano__> Psy: also one important thing, run sudo dhclient on that machine
[08:46] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac.. anyone?
[08:46] <EdgEy> hmm
[08:46] <midmood> something isn't working...  can you help me?
[08:46] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: I think my other machine is like, 1 ghz
[08:46] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: so when you try, you may want to stay with lightweight window managers and stuff like that
[08:46] <EdgEy> i am making progress now
[08:46] <EdgEy> i can ping my gateway but nothing past that
[08:46] <HymnToLife> midmood, and the problem is ?
[08:46] <midmood> ah ok
[08:46] <Psy> ok... its doing some stuff...
[08:46] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: my other computer couldn't even boot from the ubuntu CD. xD It would try to mount the filesystem when starting up, and it would get stuck like that.
[08:47] <midmood> HymnToLife, when typing this:  sudo dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.17-11.deb
[08:47] <Flannel> EdgEy: did you ask in #ubuntu+1?  It's a feisty problem, they probably have a concise answer on how to fix it
[08:47] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: well it's not all that tragic if you stay with a clean and minimal system. fluxbox, icewm etc are things people learn to love over time. these window managers are so unbloat that its hard to believe
[08:47] <bthornton> What's the name of ATI's new open-source drivers (open-source version of fglrx)?
[08:47] <midmood> i receive "no file found"
[08:47] <bthornton> "ati" or "radeon"?
[08:47] <_apelsinchoklad_> can someone help me?? ... the internet-connetction wont work on my old imac.
[08:47] <Xk2c> bye
[08:47] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: is it running ubuntu
[08:47] <juano__> Psy: try sudo dhclient3 wlan0  or sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:47] <HymnToLife> midmood, try to tab-complete : sudo dpkg -i linux<tab>
[08:47] <Jowi_n1> !find chcase
[08:47] <HymnToLife> surely you didn't compile a 2.6.17 kernel
[08:47] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: yess.
[08:47] <midmood> HymnToLife, ok, i try and back soon
[08:47] <ubotu> Package/file chcase does not exist in edgy
[08:48] <illriginal> What's a good program to make audio cds?
[08:48] <illriginal> from mp3s
[08:48] <EdgEy> Flannel, yeah, but i think it's nothing wrong with feisty and maybe something i just screwed up myself. there's not many people in the feisty channel, if i use ifconfig to set stuff up manually it's working
[08:48] <juano__> Psy: that could help, we have to enable the dhcp client on that machine if your connecting to a router running DHCP server
[08:48] <Simpleton> Does anyone have twinview working properly?
[08:48] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: how much ram does it have. the ubuntu live cd installer is for machines with 256 megabyte sof ram or more. use the alternate cd for machines with less ram. in fact, i always use the alternate cd. much faster to get the install going
[08:48] <HymnToLife> illriginal, k3b
[08:48] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: does it see the network card at all
[08:48] <bthornton> ubotu radeon
[08:48] <Psy> no it's not using dhcp
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <illriginal> k3b? ok
[08:48] <Psy> it's set up static
[08:48] <bthornton> ubotu ati
[08:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: I think it has half that ram.
[08:48] <juano__> Psy: oh ok
[08:48] <HymnToLife> illriginal, it needs an extra plugin to handle mp3, you'll fint it in Synaptic too
[08:48] <juano__> Psy: is it to 10.0.0.75 ?
[08:48] <midmood> HymnToLife, Maybe i did confusion, what dir am i supposed to do the command?
[08:49] <illriginal> when i download it, im sure it'll be like k3b plugin yes?
[08:49] <juano__> does iwconfig tell you that ip ?
[08:49] <juano__> Psy: or ifconfig ?
[08:49] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: then i think you won't get the full ddesktop live cd working becouse of the ram. if you want ubuntu on it, you might want xubuntu instead, xfce is leighter
[08:49] <HymnToLife> midmood, hmm actually, I think this was not the right thing or you
[08:49] <Psy> iwconfig doesn't show an ip, if config shows that yes
[08:49] <apecat> *lighter
[08:49] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: yeh.. its strange.. it works whith google if I go in to it whith my computer beside first.. but when I try other sites it wont work
[08:49] <HymnToLife> what do you want a custom kernel for ?
[08:49] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: so you can visit google, but no other sites ?
[08:50] <midmood> yes, I think so, But I'm trying anyway :-)
[08:50] <Psy> oh hang on a second - there is no ip's in ifconfig this time...
[08:50] <AmaroqWolf> apecat: I've always wondered what the difference is between ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu.
[08:50] <midmood> alone i can't, I suppose...
[08:50] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: but you could install ubuntu on it with the alternate installer, which has an easy to use menu driven interface
[08:50] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: yepp
[08:50] <HymnToLife> midmood, why do you think you need a custom kernel ?
[08:50] <juano__> Psy: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 down , then sudo ifconfig wlan0 10.0.0.75 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[08:50] <ikonia> AmaroqWolf: and you never thought to check http://www.ubuntu.com to find out
[08:50] <midmood> cause i have to configure audio for my tvcard
[08:50] <juano__> Psy: i would be using 255.0.0.0 for 10.0.0.0 but anyway
[08:50] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: thats very strange, alls I can think of is that your dns isn't working and google is cached
[08:50] <midmood> and i need a custom module
[08:51] <HymnToLife> then just build that module
[08:51] <HymnToLife> not the whole kernel :p
[08:51] <Ellixis> Hi all, I have a Dapper Desktop installation CD... does it have a "server install" inside ?
[08:51] <juano__> Psy: since all of them are on 255.255.255.0 , just try that one
[08:51] <HymnToLife> Ellixis, no
[08:51] <apecat> AmaroqWolf: those are all the same thing, exept for the default deskto. kubuntu has a customized kde desktop, xubuntu has a customized xfce. you can try either of thsese by installing the packages xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu desktop
[08:51] <Tox> how to check out all active connections ?
[08:51] <apecat> *kubuntu-desktop
[08:51] <Ellixis> HymnToLife: damn it :( I can't install a server with it ?
[08:51] <heydabop> How do I [artition my hard drive in Ubuntu?
[08:51] <heydabop> partition*
[08:51] <Psy> ok it;s back up, it has a ip in ifconfig now
[08:51] <HymnToLife> Ellixis, no, you'll need a Server or Alternate CD
[08:51] <EdgEy> !partitioning
[08:51] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:51] <Psy> still no ping from 10.0.0.61
[08:51] <apecat> Tox: the netstat command
[08:51] <ikonia> heydabop: gparted, fdisk
[08:52] <heydabop> Ok.
[08:52] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: some other sites also works if i go in to them with the computer beside that use os x..
[08:52] <apecat> Tox: you might want to check out the tool netwatch (which has to be run as root)
[08:52] <ompaul> Tox, netstat -an | less
[08:52] <Ellixis> HymnToLife: ok thanks, bye all
[08:52] <midmood> HymnToLife, I followed step by step all the istructions in the tutorial, but, as a newbie user, i moved between dirs whesn something went wrong... I just need to be put back in the right way :-)  please help me
[08:52] <Tox> tnx guys
[08:52] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: what do you mean "the computer beside" - is that a different computer or the same
[08:52] <Tox> as i wrote i have a big problem
[08:52] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: a different
[08:53] <apecat> Tox: you can install netwatch with the package netdiag
[08:53] <sylpheedClaws> Tox: yeah?
[08:53] <juano__> Psy: sudo ifconfig wlan0 10.0.0.75 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 10.0.0.61 up
[08:53] <ikonia> _apelsinchoklad_: so what has that got to do with your mac
[08:53] <midmood> HymnToLife, tried not bothering users with dummy questions, but now i need help
[08:53] <Tox> outgoing connection running
[08:53] <HymnToLife> midmood, I can't really help you with it, I always build my kernels with source from kernel.org, not with the Ubuntu packages
[08:53] <sylpheedClaws> I wasn't here when you said it
[08:53] <Tox> i cant find out why'
[08:53] <sylpheedClaws> so... what's the problem?
[08:53] <juano__> Psy: after that, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:54] <midmood> HymnToLife, ok... could be simply a wrong dir error, can you suggest me from which one I can type the command?
[08:54] <sylpheedClaws> mid: prob?
[08:54] <Tox> indicator shows outgpin bytes
[08:54] <bootsbradford> Where does ubuntu hide its root password?  My friend set his ubuntu system up and the only pass he had to [rovide was a user password.
[08:54] <_apelsinchoklad_> ikonia: if I go in to a site on my mac with os x and then whith the computer whith ubuntu it works on that site..
[08:54] <HymnToLife> midmood, maybe /usr/src/linux ?
[08:54] <sylpheedClaws> midmood: what's the problem?
[08:54] <Tox> how to find out where it goin
[08:54] <apecat> bootsbradford: you can set the root password with sudo passwd root
[08:54] <midmood> sylpheedClaws, blocked in the middle of the recompilation of kernel
[08:54] <jrib> !root | bootsbradford
[08:55] <ubotu> bootsbradford: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:55] <ghostdog> ! pastbin
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <sharperguy> If i make a separate home partition, how big (% wise) should I make it compared with the rest of the drive?
[08:55] <Flannel> bootsbradford, ubuntu doesn't use the root account, and there's no reason to set one up.  It's disabled.
[08:55] <ghostdog> i need past..
[08:55] <sylpheedClaws> ...I don't have much kernel-compiling experience
[08:55] <midmood> hmm, it seems i don't have an /usr/src/linux
[08:55] <HymnToLife> midmood, are you getting my PMs ?
[08:55] <sylpheedClaws> ghostdog | ~pastebin
[08:55] <hjmills> hi - how do i unzip every zip file in a folder from the term? unzip * says they are all not matched
[08:55] <apecat> bootsbradford: if you really want the root account you can set it up, but in most situations using sudo is safer
[08:55] <sylpheedClaws> ghostdog | !pastebin
[08:55] <bootsbradford> Flannel - that's great until you unmount with a normal user account and then can't remount wiuthout su privileges
[08:55] <Psy> juano__, i get gw@ host name lookup faliure
[08:56] <Psy> *gw: host name lookup faliure
[08:56] <Flannel> bootsbradford: you use sudo.  not su.
[08:56] <bootsbradford> apecat: e.g. sudo mount /dev/blah asks for a password
[08:56] <Skuller> kritical: if i just format my ext3 partition and install Edgy on it, wudnt it be better than 'upgrading' my Dapper?
[08:56] <sylpheedClaws> !pastebin | ghostdog
[08:56] <ubotu> ghostdog: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:56] <Flannel> bootsbradford: it's asking for your user password
[08:56] <apecat> bootsbradford: that's your own password
[08:56] <HymnToLife> Skuller, it would definitely be better if you can afford it
[08:56] <bootsbradford> ah ok, thanks apecat, Flannel
[08:57] <juano__> Psy: ok, mm, well anyway, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:57] <Skuller> HymnToLife: hmm...thanx...i guess i'll go for that as soon as i am done downloading the edgy eft ISO on my 128kbps connection....
[08:57] <sylpheedClaws> your root pass is the pass of the first user
[08:57] <sylpheedClaws> on Ubuntu, you don't su, you sudo with your own pass
[08:57] <sylpheedClaws> it's safer that way
[08:57] <HymnToLife> sylpheedClaws, wrong, there is no root pass inUbuntu by default
[08:57] <Flannel> sharperguy: Really /home is where you put all your stuff.  It's best to think the opposite, figure out about how much space you need for everything else, then give /home the rest.  Since it'll be where you put all your random junk, that'll pile up
[08:57] <HymnToLife> don't confuse the user password and the root password
[08:58] <sylpheedClaws> no, I meant that on Ubuntu, the pass treated as the root pass is the user pass
[08:58] <Psy> juano__, host name look up faliure again doing that restart...
[08:58] <Littlegator> Is anyone familiar with changing the usplash?
[08:58] <EdgEy> http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:zoiGI5Qko0cJ:linux.rice.edu/help/net-debug.html+debugging+ethernet+linux&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=31&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
[08:58] <sharperguy> Flannel, what do you suggest then?
[08:58] <ikonia> Littlegator: yup
[08:58] <apecat> sylpheedClaws: nope
[08:58] <HymnToLife> sylpheedClaws, it's not the same thing
[08:58] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: are you there? could you help me compile the latest alsa for hda intel?
[08:58] <juano__> Psy: are your other PCs set to similar IPS ?
[08:58] <Flannel> sharperguy: no, it's not. And if you create a second user with admin privledges, then the sudo password is that user's password as well.
[08:58] <EdgEy> can anyone who understands networking better give me a description of what <naddr> is in that link?
[08:58] <sylpheedClaws> ...the pass of the first user
[08:58] <Littlegator> ikonia: I've searched the wiki, forums, and the guide that is provided and I can't get this to work
[08:58] <Psy> yep
[08:59] <juano__> Psy: have you got them all on 10.0.0.0 net ?
[08:59] <HymnToLife> you can't use it to login as root or use su for example
[08:59] <Psy> yep
[08:59] <ikonia> Littlegator: whats the problem
[08:59] <Skuller> what is the difference between Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu?
[08:59] <juano__> Psy: what netmasks dot ehy use ? 255.255.255.0 ?
[08:59] <EdgEy> Skuller, window managers
[08:59] <sylpheedClaws> but the root password for sudo, not su
[08:59] <Psy> yep
[08:59] <assasukasse> ikonia what is this problem now?
[08:59] <assasukasse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[08:59] <Flannel> sharperguy: another way to do it is to use LVM, and then you don't need to worry about sizes ;)
[08:59] <HymnToLife> Skuller, the desktop environment they install by default
[08:59] <Flannel> sylpheedClaws: sudo doesn't use the root password, at all.
[08:59] <dcordes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[08:59] <sylpheedClaws> on other distros
[08:59] <Littlegator> ikonia: I'm not sure, it tells me to enter a line in the terminal but the terminal says the command usage is wrong
[08:59] <meshyf> Ok so I go to update Ubuntu and it gives me this "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " error message. So I go to the Terminal to do dpkg --configure -a like it says and it says I require super user privileges. So I go to install the Super User Terminal but it wont let me because of the error from before. What can I do to fix this?
[08:59] <sylpheedClaws> this is for people who aren't familiar wit hUbuntu's sudo system
[08:59] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu != other distros :p
[09:00] <hamit> trke bilen varm help
[09:00] <juano__> Psy: have you tried looking in the !wireless
[09:00] <bootsbradford> any ways to stop nautilus displaying mounted devices on the desktop automatically?  I can always get them by going into the file manager if I want
[09:00] <HymnToLife> sylpheedClaws, sudo is not Ubuntu's
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> mesh:
[09:00] <dcordes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[09:00] <dcordes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5303/
[09:00] <ikonia> Littlegator: whats the command
[09:00] <HymnToLife> it existed way before UBuntu was created
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> did you upgrade with the upgrade manager?
[09:00] <ikonia> assasukasse: looks like a header / kernel incompatability
[09:00] <juano__> !wireless | Psy
[09:00] <ubotu> Psy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:00] <Littlegator>  ikonia:  sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so usplash-artwork.so
[09:00] <hamit> *trke bilen varm help
[09:00] <meshyf> Sylpheed: yeah
[09:00] <Psy> *looking
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> ...
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> weird
[09:00] <sharperguy> sylpheedClaws: not really, because if you type in su, then no password will let you in, because it s disabled
[09:00] <ikonia> Littlegator: that looks fine
[09:00] <unop> sylpheedClaws,  even on other distro's the default password sudo asks for is the user's not roots -- although it can be configured to ask for root's password
[09:00] <sylpheedClaws> I've got that message by hacking the upgrade
[09:00] <corevette> how do you turn off "sticky keys" in ubuntu?
[09:01] <Littlegator> ikonia: it gives me the usage prompt, saying  {{--install needs <link> <name> <path> <priority>}}
[09:02] <unop> meshyf,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:02] <meshyf> unop: Thanks man. :D
[09:02] <assasukasse> ikonia please look here
[09:02] <assasukasse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5306/
[09:03] <unop> meshyf,  sudo = superuser do :)
[09:03] <meshyf> unop: oh lol I had no idea.
[09:03] <Psy> juano__, i have the mac address for the router under iwconfig - this means i can see it right?
[09:03] <infidel> anybody know anything about smart type phones?
[09:03] <chable> anyone knows whats the value of 256 in binary numbers
[09:03] <ikonia> assasukasse: ok
[09:03] <ikonia> ?
[09:03] <unop> meshyf,  now you do :)
[09:03] <cypherdelic> when will restricted kernel modules 2.6.17-50 be released?
[09:04] <cypherdelic> or will it ever be released.
[09:04] <assasukasse> ikonia why checkinstall doesnt work but sudo make install does?
[09:04] <Flannel> sharperguy: uh, depends on what you use your computer for, for instance, I have a larger /var, because I have my own web server and stuff.  But, personally (and this is more space than I'll ever need for these partitions): / - 512MB, /usr - 10GB, /var - 25GB (because I have user-ish stuff there), /tmp - 5GB and then /home - the rest (200GB), I was sloppy, because I have LVM running, so I can shift them around if I need, and I had a big d
[09:04] <Flannel> eh, that probably got cut off.
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> 100000000
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> chable
[09:04] <chable> cheers
[09:04] <midmood> HymnToLife, maybe i need to register my nick ...
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> why?
[09:04] <ikonia> assasukasse: check install is a crappy way to work
[09:04] <sylpheedClaws> you'll probably be using hex mostly
[09:04] <ikonia> assasukasse: I never use it
[09:04] <midmood> it's the first time since longtime
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: mmm well thats a good sign
[09:05] <sylpheedClaws> (in which case, it'd be #100)
[09:05] <unop> chable,  1 0000 0000
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: but its weird that you cant ping it
[09:05] <assasukasse> ikonia i see :D its a pity that i've to reinstall always stuffs
[09:05] <chable> thank you
[09:05] <sylpheedClaws> why?
[09:05] <Psy> could it be that ubuntu is trying to route stuff to the wired port rather than the wireless?
[09:05] <HymnToLife> midmood, that's what I told you
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: sure its the router or your wlan0 mac address ?
[09:05] <EdgEy_> is there any way of recovering data from a partition deleted by gparted? it changed the operation queue automatically and i didn't read it
[09:05] <juano__> Psy: you have 2 network cards in that PC ?
[09:06] <midmood> HymnToLife, don't you read my responses?
[09:06] <dobbbob> how can i change the defaul power governor? my laptop boots with Performance, and i want it to be set to conservative
[09:06] <juano__> Psy: one wireless and one wired ?
[09:06] <dobbbob> i knowhow to change it after boot, but i want to set the defaults
[09:06] <corevette> where do i find repositories
[09:07] <unop> Psy,  it could happen if the wired connection has an IP address that has a default gateway as the same router
[09:07] <Locksmith> Hello
[09:07] <rohan> someone should offer ubuntu cd's with updated packages, much like fc respins. :(
[09:07] <Littlegator> ikonia: Do you have any idea why the usplash wouldn't be working?
[09:07] <rohan> especially so for kubuntu, since it has major upgrades like kde 3.5.6 and amarok 1.4.5
[09:08] <ikonia> Littlegator: nope, not without research
[09:08] <dettoaltrimenti> hellllo- if I download the Feisty live cd and install (I already have windows xp and kubuntu 6.10 on my laptop) will feisty show up in my boot menu automatically?
[09:08] <Locksmith> Well - another Linux convert here as of today..... just Borne again today!!!!
[09:08] <Locksmith> just loaded up ubuntu this morning
[09:08] <ikonia> dettoaltrimenti: if you have to ask that - you should not be using alpha software
[09:08] <cypherdelic> when will restricted kernel modules 2.6.17-50 be released?
[09:08] <HymnToLife> midmood, no, you'll need to be registered to send PMs
[09:08] <Flannel> rohan: 6.06.1 is exactly that.  But, if you want updated packages, use the alternate CD or the minimal CD, they'll download the latest from the web.
[09:08] <calvarez> hello, I just switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu. I also made Ubuntu my default laptop OS
[09:08] <whonicca> when is fiesty being released
[09:08] <rohan> Flannel: i was saying it in context to edgy :)
[09:08] <unop> rohan,  ubuntu tries to provide packages as current as can be afforded .. but stability comes first
[09:08] <stork> where can i get a screensaver that is an image slideshow?
[09:08] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:09] <EdgEy_> whonicca april
[09:09] <rohan> unop: i am just talking about updated cd's
[09:09] <Flannel> rohan: eh, the latter still applies ;)
[09:09] <tuskernini> Question, is wlan connection different (pc to pc) than normal wlan?
[09:09] <cypherdelic> or will it ever be released.
[09:09] <cypherdelic> when will restricted kernel modules 2.6.17-50 be released?
[09:09] <whonicca> another question, how often should u do kernel updates when available
[09:09] <SurfnKid> !RestrictedFormats
[09:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <walla> does anyone know how i edit certain aspects of my gtk 2.x theme
[09:09] <CyberCod> I'm having trouble using ktorrent in ubuntu (yes i know its for kde)
[09:09] <Locksmith> Any SUPER Ubuntu users able to help a newbie out with a screen resolution issue?
[09:10] <calach> tuskernini: what do you mean by normal wlan?
[09:10] <Lunar_Lamp> !screenresolution
[09:10] <unop> rohan, you mean CD's for packages already available in the repositories?
[09:10] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:10] <whonicca> whats the problem
[09:10] <whonicca> with ur screen resolution, not a super user but i can help maybe
[09:10] <juano__> Locksmith: whats the problem ?
[09:10] <rohan> unop: yes
[09:10] <tuskernini> calach, wlan from a more common router... ex. dlink...
[09:10] <Lunar_Lamp> !resolution | Locksmith
[09:10] <ubotu> Locksmith: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:11] <unop> rohan,  heh, arent you happy enough that they provide a free service? :) you're on the net, why not download the packages
[09:11] <amortvigil> hey the samba update from last week is broken could anyone help me fix it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5308/
[09:11] <Locksmith> Thanks, I loaded UBUNTU - newest version on my eurocom 5600p clevo with a radeon 7500 video card... and when i try to change the screen res, my resolutions are not listed
[09:11] <tuskernini> calach, we have a project in the city where you can log onto the city wlan but when I open network manager... it sees it as a little computer  and i can not connect..
[09:11] <calach> hmmm
[09:11] <juano__> Locksmith: they are probably not in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <rohan> unop: that was just a request .. ofcourse i am grateful. and, it is pain to download packages in areas with slow internet, like me
[09:12] <Psy> unop, would it detect the channel automatically?
[09:12] <tuskernini> calach, not as my home wlan... and as the other wlans here in the complex
[09:12] <stork> how do i edit screen saver settings?
[09:12] <tuskernini> calach, if i create a wlan connection from my computer.. it also sees it as pc to pc..
[09:12] <calach> yeah
[09:13] <calach> well I mean, it is a computer to computer connection
[09:13] <Locksmith> ok so i tried editing the xorg.conf via the resolution howto and now when i open the screen resolution window now I get this error >>> Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/screen//0/resolution": Can't have two slashes (/) in a row
[09:13] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:13] <whonicca> how often should u do kernel updates when available
[09:13] <tuskernini> calach, and i can not connect to such a connection made by a friend from a mac eather... but he can connect to one I make?
[09:13] <mhiku> faad: error while loading shared libraries: libfaad.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory? how can i fix this?
[09:14] <unop> Psy,  well the fact that you can see the network when you scan suggests so .. but to be sure -- iwconfig
[09:14] <calach> that is most likely just a firewall setting on his end
[09:14] <walla> anyone know i can change just certain aspects of my gtk theme instead of changing the whole thing?
[09:14] <Flannel> whonicca: Well, the updates are bug/security fixes, but it's up to you to balance security vs downtime
[09:14] <juano__> Locksmith: i would try sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , this reconfigures xorg and you can select again the screen resolutions you want to have in it
[09:14] <tuxtoti> i installed apache2 and php using synaptic.... my acpache sever is running and i can see the default apache page ..... but it looks like it wont execute php scripts ...it just gives me a box.. asking where to save the php file (in firefox)...
[09:14] <whonicca> Flannel, i could care less about downtime
[09:14] <tuxtoti> what could be the problem?
[09:14] <whonicca> just wondering since theres like a new one every week
[09:14] <tuskernini> calach, any ideas? maby it needs something... verification? or being able to open a webpage?
[09:14] <Flannel> whonicca: then go ahead and update whenever theyre available
[09:14] <unop> rohan,  is there a reason you must have the latest and greatest?
[09:15] <juano__> Locksmith: before that you should sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[09:15] <Flannel> tuxtoti: you need to install libapache2-mod-php5
[09:15] <calach> tuskernini: you only have problems with ad hoc networks, not infrastructure right?
[09:15] <acastano> hi
[09:15] <unop> amortvigil,  what does this return --  ls -ld /etc/rc2.d/S91samba
[09:15] <rohan> unop: err.. i dont think you got me. i meant, cd's like the fedora respins, or 6.06.1, i.e. updated cd's with the latest packages in repo.
[09:15] <tuskernini> calach, yes with no key... have not tried to disable my home wlan key yet
[09:16] <Locksmith> THANKS JUANO_ I'll try those suggestions
[09:16] <calach> tuskernini wait your home wlan is operating as ad hoc?
[09:16] <unop> rohan,  yes, i got you -- but why must you have the latest version of KDE and whatnot, why dont the current packages cut it?
[09:16] <amortvigil> unop lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Dec  5 14:46 /etc/rc2.d/S91samba -> /samba
[09:16] <tuskernini> calach, no it has a key or am i not understanding you
[09:16] <rohan> unop: the current packages are the latest - 3.5.6. only, the cd is outdated
[09:16] <Skuller> HymnToLife: EdgEy: does my being a 17 yr old student mean that i wud be more happy with 'Edubuntu' rather than Ubuntu?....or if i am an Eye candy lover shud i go for Kubuntu?
[09:16] <Flannel> rohan: just grab the minimal CD, then you'll always have the most recent version.  always.
[09:17] <michi_> hello, does anyone own a ATI X1950 Pro?
[09:17] <calach> well ad hoc and infrastructure can all use keys
[09:17] <unop> amortvigil,  try this -- sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S91samba  -- and run that command again
[09:17] <commoner> does anyone know how to get BitchX to stop showing join/part & quit messages?
[09:17] <calach> but most home networks use infrastructure
[09:17] <rohan> Flannel: the download page lists only desktop and alternate. can you link me to the minimal cd's ?
[09:17] <SurfnKid> michi_: go to #ubuntu-effects or #beryl they  have info there
[09:17] <dxdemetriou> I have copied some files to external disk, and some others aren't there now but in lost&fount. can I restore them?
[09:17] <unop> rohan,  so the only reason you want the latest packages is because you think what you are running is outdated?
[09:17] <HymnToLife> Skuller, if you have the slightest common sense, you'll be happier with Kubuntu :p </troll>
[09:17] <tuskernini> calach, so i must have infrastructure... how can i find out? iwconfig?
[09:17] <Flannel> Skuller: no.  Edubuntu is geared more towards classroom settings (client-server teacher-student thing), if you like what edubuntu gives, install ubuntu then install the edubuntu themes/stuff
[09:17] <michi_> SufnKid: thx
[09:18] <calach> tuskernini connect to your router
[09:18] <Flannel> Skuller: classroom settings like teachers controlling students screens and stuff, not just 'educational' settings
[09:18] <AVN`> my down key doesn't work
[09:18] <whonicca> do i have to enable anything on the windows machines on my netowrk in order to open up there folders through nautilus with samba
[09:18] <Flannel> !minimal | rohan
[09:18] <ubotu> rohan: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:18] <SurfnKid> michi_: np
[09:18] <AVN`> how do I reset the keybindings?
[09:18] <calach> tuskernini: sorry i cant help you much I dunno
[09:18] <_apelsinchoklad_> nn hr som kan lite linux?? ... ja provade att installera linux (ubuntu) igr p min gammla imac 233mhz.. men ja kan inte f internet att funka... det funkar iaf p powermacen brevid med os x p.... det som r konsigast r att om man gr in p en sida p powermacen och sen p imacen s funkar det ibland p den sidan.
[09:18] <whonicca> i get an authentication required pop up, put in my login name and password and it still doesnt allow me to browse
[09:18] <amortvigil> unop its woring
[09:18] <tuskernini> calach,  thanks anyway...
[09:18] <rohan> unop: that, and because of the changes listed on http://kde.org/info/3.5.6.php
[09:18] <dxdemetriou> can I restore files from lost and found? The fsck.ext3 doesn't restore them
[09:19] <rohan> Flannel: that was exactly what i was looking for ! thanks :)
[09:19] <Kasparr> Hi. Can anyone tall me whats the best support for Beryl to run with my Radeon 9200? AIGLX or XGL?
[09:19] <Flannel> _apelsinchoklad_: english only.  But, if you want a lighter version of ubuntu, check out xubuntu
[09:19] <ompaul> !se
[09:19] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:19] <Flannel> Kasparr: #ubuntu-effects for beryl questions
[09:19] <leke> sup
[09:19] <timthelion> now that termcap-compat is completely depricated can one run emacs-cvs on ubuntu?
[09:19] <unop> amortvigil,  woring? whats that mean?
[09:19] <Nomad_O_North> What is the Linux equivilant of C:/Program Files?
[09:19] <Kasparr> Flannel: thanks
[09:19] <kitche> Kasparr: with ati binary drivers it's just xgl witht he open source drivers you can use aiglx
[09:20] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, there is non - we have an older and more sane way of looking at files
[09:20] <cables> Nomad_O_North, /usr/bin usually, for the actual app, ~ for settings
[09:20] <Skuller> Flannel: HymnToLife: so i dont reali have to use Edubuntu if i am a home desktop user i guess....the option now just comes down to between Ku and Ub....and considering wt Hymn said i guess i shud download and install Kubuntu right?
[09:20] <Flannel> Nomad_O_North: /usr/bin  http://www.secguru.com/files/cheatsheet/linux-file-structure.jpg is a reasonable rundown (but not ubuntu specific)
[09:20] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, what are you trying to do?
[09:20] <cables> Nomad_O_North, you can do whereis appname to know
[09:20] <Zaggynl> !wifi
[09:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:20] <amortvigil> unop sorrie typo:P its all working
[09:20] <AVN`> Can anyone tell me how to fix gnome key bindings? mine got screwed up and I don't want to recusimize my gconf
[09:20] <timthelion> ompaul: I wouldn't go so far as to say more sane, I have never seen a sane destcription
[09:20] <Flannel> Skuller: you can actually have them both installed on the same system (on the same partition) and choose between DEs each time you login
[09:20] <babo> does anyone know how to convert an avi file to a flv file ? .... pls ... ??
[09:21] <unop> rohan,  man o man, why do you assume that it's best to have what's newest -- i bet you if you were sent a CD, the KDE you got would be obsolete :)
[09:21] <timthelion> AVN`: um, you could go to system preferences hotkeys
[09:21] <babo> I've tried mencoder, but it doesn't seem to be up to the job ... :-(
[09:21] <Flannel> unop: that's what the minimal CD solves, you only download the latest.
[09:21] <JessicaFL> Is it possible to run two XWindows at once?  Like, Ctrl+F7 for one and Ctrl+F8 for the other?  I have VMWare running but even maximized I don't have enough visual area to be comfortable in the guest OS.  If possible, any pointers on what I need to read up on?  Thanks!!!
[09:21] <rohan> unop: true, but kde 3.5.6 has its advantages :)
[09:21] <Skuller> Flannel: ohh...but i guess that would be unnecessary unless you can give me an advantage of using Ub rather than Ku
[09:21] <timthelion> ompaul: if you know of a good description of unix directory structure I'm interested
[09:21] <AVN`> timthelion: stuff like the down arrow, not like whats in hotkeys
[09:22] <Nomad_O_North> I'm going to perform a backup of all of the primary programs on my system. That is, all of the programs visible under Alacarte.
[09:22] <rohan> and other things, like kernel updates, bug fixes and security updates, that are usually part of edgy-updates, unop
[09:22] <Flannel> Skuller: theyre... comparable.  It's personal preference over merits, for KDE vs Gnome
[09:22] <timthelion> AVN`: what is wrong with the down arrow?
[09:22] <Amaranth> Nomad_O_North: why?
[09:22] <Amaranth> Nomad_O_North: those are easy to reinstall
[09:22] <kitche> timethelion: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ has everythign layed out well and is what most distros follow
[09:22] <AVN`> timthelion: it is not mapped to anything, a few other keys are broken also
[09:23] <Flannel> Skuller: HymnToLife was being silly when he said Kubuntu was better if you 'have the slightest common sense'
[09:23] <Nomad_O_North> Just to be safe, in case for some reason known only to bob an essential file goes missing.
[09:23] <HymnToLife> Skuller, it was a joke to say that I consider KDE to be way better than Gnome, but you could try them both if you want to make your own opinion about it
[09:23] <rohan> Skuller: it depends on your preference - whether you like KDE or gnome
[09:23] <ompaul> timthelion, http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_intro/sect_03_01.html scroll down that page a bit - Nomad_O_North you might find it interesting
[09:23] <coNP> ! flamewar
[09:23] <commoner> JessicaFL: i've done that before with two different users signed in at the same time.  I don't know how well it would work if it's the same user signed in twice.
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flamewar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <rohan> but I'd agree with HymnToLife , Skuller :)
[09:23] <coNP> oh, poor ubotu :)
[09:23] <HymnToLife> but if you like eye-candy, KDE is definitely the best bet
[09:23] <Skuller> Flannel: Does the personal preference come in even if i have not used Ub for more than 2 days?....i mean i dont think i wuf prefer one more than the other if i have just initiated myself in the Linux world a couple of dayz back
[09:24] <Nomad_O_North> That way I can just replace the file and go about my business.
[09:24] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:24] <Skuller> HymnToLife: that is arrite then.....but eye candy still goes to KDE aye?
[09:24] <commoner> JessicaFL, just go to system>quit and choose switch uses
[09:24] <HymnToLife> Skuller, that's exacly why I'm teling you to try them both
[09:24] <rohan> Skuller: all the more reason to try both - you can then just stick to what you like.
[09:24] <unop> rohan, it's not feasible to use CDs .. especially as the install ones are already given out free .. which is why you have the online repos .. now, if you spent a couple of hours everyday running update (even of 2kbps dialup) you'd have no problems
[09:24] <dm> exit
[09:24] <JessicaFL> commoner: I don't mind making another user.  Do I just run StartX as each user?  I don't mind reading a lot, but do you know a good place for info on this?
[09:24] <JessicaFL> commoner: ok (i'll wait until you're done of course :)
[09:24] <Flannel> Skuller: eh?  Theyre different.  Yeah, personal preference would make a difference, because you still know what you like ;)  Probably install both, try them each, then choose one (or don't, no issue leaving them both installed)
[09:25] <rohan> unop: true ..
[09:25] <illriginal> How come K3B cannot play mp3 files?... And will it convert the mp3s into audio format so that i can play it in a car stereo or in a CD player?
[09:25] <HymnToLife> Skuller, http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9/kdecompositech0.png
[09:25] <HymnToLife> here's some nice KDE eye-candy :p
[09:25] <Skuller> Flannel: rohan: HymnToLife: thanx....i guess i'll try both and then make up my mind....thnx for ur help
[09:25] <illriginal> How come K3B cannot play mp3 files?... And will it convert the mp3s into audio format so that i can play it in a car stereo or in a CD player?
[09:25] <Flannel> illriginal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3  you need to install k3b's mp3 codec,
[09:26] <HymnToLife> illriginal, I told you k3b needs an extra plugin to handle mp3, you'l find it in Synaptic
[09:26] <rohan> Skuller: yes, try both and stick to one you like .. np :)
[09:26] <illriginal> i did.
[09:26] <illriginal> I DID THAT.
[09:26] <unop> JessicaFL,  did you want to have two sessions running at the same time?
[09:26] <illriginal> the decoder.
[09:26] <commoner> JessicaFL, np ;)  If you're using GDM (for graphical login screen) you should be able to use switch user (instead of running startx from the console)
[09:26] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:26] <Flannel> illriginal: which one?  and which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:26] <JessicaFL> commoner: oh! ok, I thought I had to do more than that
[09:27] <gapagos> hey when i tried to boot from the Ubuntu 6.10 installation CD it freeses about 20 secs after loading the kernel
[09:27] <Nomad_O_North> BTW, I also need to know how to back up my aplications menu...
[09:27] <Muzik83> illriginal: you probably need libk3b2-mp3
[09:27] <gapagos> i have 6.06 installed
[09:27] <mamonassassina> hi,is a .bin file "mountable"?
[09:27] <JessicaFL> commoner: then how do you switch between them? (or is it just doing switch user back and forth?)  can you do alt+f7,f8 ?
[09:27] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:27] <unop> JessicaFL,  you can have another session within your current one by running this command - gdmflexiserver -xnest
[09:27] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:27] <_apelsinchoklad_> the internet wont work on my old imac.. but when I go in to a site on my mac with os x first and then with the one whith ubuntu the site works sometimes.. what's wrong???
[09:27] <commoner> JessicaFL, nope.. and then you can switch between the two sessions with ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[09:27] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, rather than doing that - create a test user
[09:27] <lehaid> hi
[09:27] <cables> !patience > _apelsinchoklad_
[09:27] <JessicaFL> great! i'm going to try it out.  thanks commoner and unop for your help!
[09:27] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, whats chipset on your network card ?
[09:27] <lehaid> i've connected an USB 4-in-1 card reader, and it doesn't show up, how do i know what to do ?
[09:27] <Nomad_O_North> ompaul:Huh?
[09:28] <gapagos> hey when i tried to boot from the Ubuntu 6.10 installation CD it freeses about 20 secs after loading the kernel ... i have 6.06 installed already though
[09:28] <pbureau> lehaid, put a card in
[09:28] <lehaid> i dont even see it in "lsusb".....
[09:28] <lehaid> pbureau, i did
[09:28] <gapagos> i dont want to upgrade i want to have both versions on seperate partitions
[09:28] <lehaid> and the leds are on
[09:28] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, as one users personal settings do not influence anothers - so you can break all you want
[09:28] <pbureau> lehaid, do lsusb does it report the card reader there ?
[09:28] <Nomad_O_North> I need to be able to write the contents of my applications menu to a cd-wr.
[09:28] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: chipset??
[09:28] <lehaid> pbureau,  nop
[09:29] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, type lspci |grep Network whats does it report
[09:29] <illriginal> The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder
[09:29] <lehaid> maybe the usb hub isn't recgoznied in linux ?
[09:29] <illriginal> ^ have that
[09:29] <mamonassassina> hi,is a .bin file "mountable"?
[09:29] <pbureau> lehaid, so all 0000 in there ?
[09:29] <gapagos> can anyone help me? why does 6.10 freezes on its 1st boot from the CD? It works in 6.06
[09:29] <Flannel> illriginal: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:29] <lehaid> pbureau, no.. other usb (in back) are there
[09:29] <illriginal> Edgy eft
[09:29] <lehaid> i'm trying toc onnect it on front
[09:29] <mamonassassina> lehaid: this is how my card reader worked...
[09:29] <mamonassassina> lehaid: connect it in other usb port.
[09:29] <pbureau> lehaid, try plugin the usb card reader into the pc directly and check lsusb again
[09:29] <CrakeHunter> hello! how can i make beryl make boot automatically at startup?
[09:30] <gapagos> help anyone plz
[09:30] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureu: dont now.. i'm kind a begginer.. not so good at computers/linux
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: go to system,administration...
[09:30] <Nomad_O_North> So, the contents of my applications menu will be in my personal settings...?
[09:30] <lehaid> can't access the back ports
[09:30] <lehaid> it's hard
[09:30] <lehaid> blah..
[09:30] <lehaid> sec
[09:30] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, type --> lspci |grep Network <--whats does it report
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: hm...hold on haha
[09:30] <CrakeHunter> heh ;)
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: i know its system,administration.
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: but i have to look for the thing.
[09:31] <CrakeHunter> k thx in advance :)
[09:31] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: system,preferences,sessions.
[09:31] <lehaid> ok
[09:31] <lehaid> connected to back.. works :)
[09:31] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: there,you'll probably know what to do.
[09:31] <lehaid> now, i want to install on the 1GB flash card, a linux dist with GCC
[09:32] <lehaid> any recommendations ?
[09:32] <pbureau> lehaid, I have a card reader that does the same thing..
[09:32] <Nomad_O_North> So, the contents of my applications menu will be in my personal settings...?
[09:32] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: especially cause my ubuntu is in portuguese and i don't know how to explain you that.
[09:32] <CrakeHunter> i suppose add it in startup programs ;)
[09:32] <lehaid> what is a small, non-X distribution, with gcc that fits 1 GB?
[09:32] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: yes :P
[09:32] <pbureau> lehaid, nope never done it
[09:32] <Zahrber> Can anyone tell me how to use NMapFe with root privledges
[09:32] <CrakeHunter> a muchas gracis!
[09:32] <ddude> mplayer question: how can i decrease the font size of the sub-titles? (srt file)
[09:32] <Zahrber> *priviledges
[09:32] <lehaid> guess, i'll try slackware again
[09:32] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, back this up:  .gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers/
[09:32] <gapagos> can anyone help me boot into 6.10
[09:32] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: that is spanish,but no hay problema.los 2 sn casi iguales.
[09:33] <gapagos> 6.10 freezes during live cd boot
[09:33] <cables> !br | mamonassassina
[09:33] <ubotu> mamonassassina: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:33] <Flannel> gapagos: did you check the CD?
[09:33] <gapagos> yes
[09:33] <ompaul> !bootoptions | gapagos
[09:33] <gapagos> cd is fine
[09:33] <ubotu> gapagos: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[09:33] <mamonassassina> cables: why?
[09:33] <alex_> hola buenas, alguien sabe de asterisk?
[09:33] <mamonassassina> cables: why should i go to ubuntu-br if i speak english?
[09:33] <gapagos> ubotu: what options should I use? 6.06 didn't need any options to boot properly
[09:33] <pbureau> !es | alex_
[09:33] <poningru> !nm
[09:33] <HymnToLife> !es | alenax
[09:33] <ubotu> alex_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:33] <mamonassassina> cables: why should i go to ubuntu-br if i have asked my question in english right here 10 minutes ago?
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <ubotu> alenax: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:34] <Zahrber> gapagos: where does it freeze look at what is the last service loaded
[09:34] <poningru> !network manager
[09:34] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[09:34] <cables> mamonassassina, i just got back to the channel and i thought you wanted help in Portuguese... sorry
[09:34] <KratoS_> we
[09:34] <CrakeHunter> my gaim crashes all the time.. anyway, no salgo antes yo te he preguntado como se dice "muchas gracias" en portugues?
[09:34] <Nomad_O_North> OK. Thanks ompaul!
[09:34] <KratoS_> Hi
[09:34] <mamonassassina> cables: ok,ok.
[09:34] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: it's 'muito obrigado'.
[09:34] <Zahrber> Can anyone tell me how to use NMapFe with root priviledges
[09:34] <mamonassassina> now,is a .bin file "mountable"?
[09:34] <gapagos> Zahrber: it freezes shortly after the kernel was loaded, when you see the big Ubuntu logo with a progress bar moving left to right to left to right
[09:34] <CrakeHunter> vale, muito obrigado :)   adios, amigo!
[09:34] <pbureau> obrigado in portuguesh
[09:34] <KratoS_> ehm...how I can connect to Italian server?
[09:35] <gapagos> there is no text at this point
[09:35] <pbureau> KratoS_,  /join #ubuntun-it
[09:35] <cables> CrakeHunter, are you on Edgy? It's a beta, and the bug should be reported. However, you can try  renaming ~/.gaim to something else to temporarily try using blank settings.
[09:35] <HymnToLife> KratoS_, /join #ubuntu-it
[09:35] <Zahrber> gapagos: so it never starts loading services
[09:35] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: adios.or,how we say it,"tchau". lol
[09:35] <CrakeHunter> yea im on edgy...
[09:35] <CrakeHunter> the bug cannot be reported, it crashes without error message
[09:35] <gapagos> Zahrber: I wouldn't know, i've never seen an edgy sucessful boot
[09:35] <KratoS_> ok thanks
[09:36] <Zahrber> gapagos: do you ever see the kernel module loaded
[09:36] <gapagos> Zahrber: yes, I can confirm the kernel module is always 100% loaded
[09:36] <enry183> somebody know a software for podcast
[09:36] <hbaigu> mamonassassina, what is that .bin file?
[09:36] <Skuller> To connect to the internet i use an ADSL modem which requires an Username and Password.....i used the pppoeconf to connect to the internet....i have 2 accounts which i want to be able to switch between easily rather than going through the whole process of 'pppoeconf' ing again and again....is it possible, if yes then how?
[09:36] <CrakeHunter> well,  - i dont chat very often anyway... so off to my new ubutnu desktop, weee :)
[09:36] <CrakeHunter> tchau, mamonassassina!
[09:37] <Zahrber> gapagos: then the hardware detection starts after that for loading modules into the kernel\
[09:37] <kitche> CrakeHunter: it does give an error you just can't see it unless you start gaim from terminal
[09:37] <flo_> how can i force a prog to compile with a arbitrary version of gcc?
[09:37] <pesco> Hi.
[09:37] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: a "virtual CD" (sorry for not having a better definition for that lol)
[09:37] <alex_> I need help with asterisk
[09:37] <alex_> I want to load chan_bluetooth but it's imposible
[09:37] <cables> alex_, #asterisk
[09:38] <_Dez> Hi guys
[09:38] <gapagos> anyway if i can't even BOOT into 6.10, I don't want to start thinking about upgrading it... the only reason I want 6.10 is to try Berryl 3d world; and I want to stick to Ubuntu because it's easy to set up
[09:38] <pirate-king> anybody running smoothwall?
[09:38] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: there is the option of burning it into a cd,but i'd like to mount it into a 'virtual drive'.
[09:38] <kitche> alex_: asterisk is probably to advance then what most people in here know about I barely know asterisk sicne I ddon't use it or have a need but read documents for it
[09:38] <pesco> I've got the following problem and can't find a fix: When I play back video with the XVideo extension, it appears but totally stretched vertically. This is feisty fawn herd 3 with a radeon 9600 on an Apple PowerBook.
[09:39] <pesco> Has anyone ever seen this or any idea what could fix it?
[09:39] <gapagos> knoppix also doesnt work very well, i have no video after xwindow server loads but thats another story
[09:39] <EdgEy_> gapagos, if you just want to try out beryl you could use 7.04, since it won't matter if anything breaks if you're just testing
[09:39] <kitche> pesco: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[09:39] <pesco> kitche: Oh, thanks! Sorry...
[09:39] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: cant write it.. somthing is wrong whith my keyboard.. cant write the "|" ... what button should i press in linux?
[09:40] <EdgEy_> _apelsinchoklad_, if it's on US layout
[09:40] <Zahrber> gapagos: check you loading of 6.06 and see what starts after kernel and I am sure 6.10 loads the first few the same. this will give you an idea where to start
[09:40] <EdgEy_> it's near the enter key
[09:40] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, copy and paste the text I posted into a terminatl window then :)
[09:40] <Norf-ubu> spot the idiot... :P i "played" with a proggy called bootup manager and disbaled all the services.... screen went blank so did a 3 finger shuffle to reboot.... it reboots but stops at a command prompt with Login...... heylp!
[09:40] <EdgEy_> possibly # or ]  (UK keyboard) i forget now
[09:40] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, type --> lspci |grep Network <--whats does it report
[09:40] <Locksmith> Back again after running dpkg to reconfigure xorg, and still not able to get xorg.conf to take the new settings (yes I ran it with sudo )
[09:40] <kurt> hello
[09:40] <kurt> is it true that linux is going commercial?
[09:41] <cables> kurt, some distros are commercial...
[09:41] <EdgEy_> 'linux' is a kernel
[09:41] <kurt> oh i see
[09:41] <Zahrber> gapagos: you will need to pay attention closely but you probably have hardware detection problems if Knoppix is acting up also
[09:41] <gapagos> Zahrber: if my hw is incompatible what can i do
[09:41] <kitche> Norg-ubu: login and fix what you did sicne you probably disabled gdm on boot so it boots to cli
[09:41] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureu:  cant copy past betwin two computers..
[09:41] <kurt> so the commercial ones have media support and wine right out fo the box?
[09:41] <gapagos> i mean i cant run everything software
[09:42] <gapagos> so in other words im fucked
[09:42] <ompaul> !language gapagos
[09:42] <ompaul> !language | gapagos
[09:42] <ubotu> gapagos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:42] <Zahrber> gapagos: you may have to do some research on your exact HW to find the cure
[09:42] <pbureau>  the | key is the same as \ but press shift and \ and you will get |
[09:42] <Norf-ubu> kitche: ok- logged in but it stops at the comman dpromt - i'm a wet behind the ears newb - so pointers welcome
[09:42] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_,  the | key is the same as \ but press shift and \ and you will get |
[09:42] <hbaigu> mamonassassina: see it this help http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Burning_a_CDROM_from_a_bin/cue_file
[09:42] <gapagos> ah linux is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:42] <gapagos> too discouraging
[09:42] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: i dont want to burn it.
[09:42] <Muzik83> gapagos: have you tried disabling the splash screen and taking the silent mode off the boot options to the kernel?  This should spit out tons of lines of information on what its doing, rather than the nice pretty splash screen
[09:42] <unop> gapagos,  easy now
[09:42] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: i want to mount it.
[09:42] <kitche> kurt: linux is already commerical redhat suse xandros mandriva, even ubuntu is semi-commerical
[09:42] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: wont work.. i have swedish keyboard.
[09:42] <LjL> gapagos: spamming channels won't help much
[09:43] <|thunder> Norf-ubu; 'startx'
[09:43] <FantasticFoo> i just installed wifi-radar. when setting up a profile for a wireless network, how do i know what "channel" to give it?
[09:43] <kitche> Norf-ubu: startx to start X
[09:43] <Zahrber> gapagos: Linux requires you to learn more than Windows and that is a good things but places like this give you a push in the right direction
[09:43] <FantasticFoo> the options are "auto" or 1-14
[09:43] <hbaigu> mamonassassina: see the page botton, is give option about mounting
[09:43] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: oh,yes!thank you so much.
[09:43] <Skuller> kitche: how is ubuntu semi - commercial?
[09:43] <Norf-ubu> thank you thank you thank you!
[09:43] <gapagos> is there a way i can run Berryl in 6.06?
[09:43] <Norf-ubu> <huge grin>
[09:44] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, well I am sorry mate I have no idea, you may want to simply type lspci and look for your network card
[09:44] <mamonassassina> what is a "kernel module"?
[09:44] <Norf-ubu> teach me not to mess again :-s
[09:44] <kitche> Skuller: there is free support as this and paid support
[09:44] <LjL> mamonassassina: you know what the kernel is?
[09:44] <Zahrber> gapagos: check out your HW and I think you will find it easier than you think, but a little more than click a next next finish wizard
[09:44] <gapagos> i tried installing Berryl and ALIGX or whatever was required but when i run beryl-manager it logs me off
[09:44] <Skuller> kitche: oh...cool...thnx
[09:44] <mamonassassina> LjL: hm...no
[09:44] <ompaul> Skuller, and the people here are not paid
[09:44] <Locksmith> Anyone else been through the trouble of getting screen resolution problems resolved?
[09:44] <LjL> mamonassassina: well, Linux is the kernel, and it's basically the core of the operating system. the rest are "userland" programs.
[09:44] <kurt> someone asked already
[09:44] <LjL> mamonassassina: a kernel module is a part of the kernel that can be loaded and unloaded while the kernel is running
[09:44] <pbureau> Locksmith, mostly ATI/Nvidia owners :)
[09:44] <ompaul> !resolution | Locksmith
[09:44] <ubotu> Locksmith: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:45] <kurt> how is ubuntu semi-commercial?
[09:45] <mamonassassina> LjL: and how can i load it?
[09:45] <mamonassassina> LjL: or,load a module?
[09:45] <LjL> mamonassassina: drivers for hardware are often made as modules - that way, you don't need to have drivers for hardware that you don't have
[09:45] <Zahrber> gapagos: I don't care to use Beryl myself, but I am sure you could run it in 6.06
[09:45] <kurt> my ati is fine
[09:45] <EdgEy> gapagos, linux isn't really too discouraging, it's just when you have awkward unsupported hardware
[09:45] <LjL> mamonassassina: sudo modprobe modulename
[09:45] <unop> _apelsinchoklad_,  this ought to give you swedish keys - setxkbmap se
[09:45] <kurt> i havent installed the dirvers for 3d yet though
[09:45] <illriginal> Does K3B automatically convert files from mp3/wav to audio format so that it can be played in a stereo/cd player?
[09:45] <Skuller> ompaul: yea i figured that...i know all u guys here are doing a reali generous, not to mention a terrific, job
[09:45] <mamonassassina> LjL: this,for example.
[09:45] <EdgEy> there is nothing on Windows like beryl
[09:45] <mamonassassina> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Burning_a_CDROM_from_a_bin/cue_file#Mounting_a_BIN.2FCUE_or_IMG.2FCUE_file
[09:46] <pbureau> unop he has swedish keyboard they just dont have the "pipe" "|" key on their keyboards
[09:46] <hbaigu> mamonassassina: try first to convert to a iso
[09:46] <Zahrber> gapagos: what kind of system are u using
[09:46] <gapagos> amd
[09:46] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: ya,easier :P
[09:46] <unop> pbureau,  errm, sure they do :)
[09:46] <gapagos> tower
[09:46] <Zahrber> gapagos: graphics
[09:46] <LjL> mamonassassina: well, that is not a module that's available in Ubuntu, and unfortunately *adding* new modules is not very easy
[09:46] <illriginal> Does K3B automatically convert files from mp3/wav to audio format so that it can be played in a stereo/cd player?
[09:46] <gapagos> pci-e nvidia 7200
[09:46] <Muzik83> illriginal: yes when everything is working... i can create an audo cd, drag mp3s on it, and burn...then play in any cd player ...  what version of k3b do you have, and ubuntu?
[09:46] <LjL> mamonassassina: so i second the suggestion to try converting to an ISO using bchunk, first
[09:47] <LjL> !bchunk
[09:47] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:47] <shadowhywind> hay all when i just to use wpa_supplicant it slows my computer down to a halt, any ideas
[09:47] <pbureau> unop, I would not know... he said he did not have one... what do I know I have a qwerty keyboard..
[09:47] <Zahrber> gapagos: do you have 3d in other apps to make sure you nvidia drivers are loaded properly
[09:47] <jexdawg> i just installed wine and i need to edit a file in the directory ~/.wine/drive_c ... how do i get to said directory?
[09:47] <illriginal> Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 and K3B 12.17
[09:47] <gapagos> oh yeah i have official drivers and they work very well
[09:47] <EdgEy> jexdawg, ~/ would be your home folder
[09:47] <LjL> jexdawg: gedit ~/.wine/drive_c/nameofthefile
[09:47] <EdgEy> for example /home/username/
[09:47] <jexdawg> man you guys kick ass
[09:47] <gapagos> games such as vega strike
[09:48] <gapagos> work well
[09:48] <juraj> hy
[09:48] <illriginal> Muzik83 Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 and K3B 12.17
[09:48] <mamonassassina> jexdawg: i agree,this guys are awesome (not being sarcastic,i don't include myself on that)
[09:48] <gapagos> i get 150fps at armagetron or something
[09:48] <kurt> jexdawg, in home choose view hidden files
[09:48] <fr> test test
[09:48] <unop> pbureau, every single keyboard locale supports "|" .. he might just have a different keymap set now where "|" is somewhere other than where it is expected
[09:48] <Zahrber> gapagos: ok sounds good, now start checking all other HW and narrow it down to HW or a certain process failing at boot
[09:48] <kurt> jexdawg, then you can look around for the file you need to edit
[09:49] <jexdawg> ah... show hidden files. excellent. thanks kurt
[09:49] <gapagos> but why would 6.10 be uncompatible with stuff that used to in 6.06
[09:49] <LjL> unop, pbureau: i think some (a few?) layouts have "|" as the key next to the left Shift key. and if one makes the mistake of telling the system they have a PC104 keyboard instead of PC105, that key won't be recognized. just a thought
[09:49] <FantasticFoo> a tutorial told me to "rmmod" a certain module. how do i do the opposite: add the module back?
[09:49] <oCfuu> hi there
[09:49] <Muzik83> illriginal: i'm on 6.06 and 12.17...and on im seeing what I have installed
[09:49] <LjL> FantasticFoo: sudo modprobe modulename
[09:49] <juraj> i don't know what is the topic, i would like to ask few questions
[09:49] <FantasticFoo> LjL: oh thanks
[09:49] <EdgEy> !ask
[09:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:50] <illriginal> ah ok
[09:50] <juraj> does it exsist vu meter for xmms
[09:50] <oCfuu> can anyone help me getting sound drivers installed for my nforce2 board?
[09:50] <oCfuu> i get a wird error when I try to install using the how-to in the forums
[09:50] <unop> pbureau,  and IIRC, even non-english language keyboards support the qwerty and dvorak configurations .. althought dvorak would be quite rare then
[09:50] <Zahrber> gapagos: 6.10 has newer technology so it may be doing something different. I use my 6.06 and 6.10 on a basic system I don't do much 3d stuff so I can't tell you
[09:51] <pbureau> unop I get your point but it wasnt me that had the | problem.. :)
[09:51] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: it comes nothing when i write it..
[09:51] <Locksmith> where would this KEY be located so i can fix it """"Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/screen//0/resolution": Can't have two slashes (/) in a row
[09:51] <Locksmith> """ I get this error opening SCREEN RESOLUTION under the prefrences menu
[09:51] <juraj> some kind of vu meter for xmms?
[09:51] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, you on a MAC.
[09:52] <juraj> enybody
[09:52] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yes
[09:52] <nusa42> Sup - I'm having a problem hooking my Ubuntu HTPC to my LCD - Any experts know how to alter resolution, restart X from the console?
[09:52] <Zahrber> gtg
[09:52] <knoppix> hello ?
[09:52] <sontek> How do I tel gtksourceview/gedit what a mime types header should look like?
[09:52] <EdgEy> nusa42, something like /etc/init.d/gdm restart can work depends on your environment
[09:52] <knoppix> i tought i didn't have internet
[09:52] <Pau1ius> hi, how could I find out which package some file belongs to?
[09:52] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, and you typed lspci and you got no replies ? then I have no ideas.. guess mac dont have pci chipsets...
[09:52] <Locksmith> NUSA42 - I am having resolution issues too
[09:53] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: i may made somthing wrong then?
[09:53] <nusa42> well.. I'm running mythtv and uninstalled gdm to be able to automatically login... so I don't have a login manager anymore.
[09:53] <Muzik83> illriginal: before you said you have the libk3b2-mp3 installed, does k3b recognize this in tools -> options -> plugins -> "k3b MAD Decoder" ?
[09:53] <knoppix> so is this real or is this a demo ? :P
[09:54] <unop> LjL, that | issue you experienced could be a locale specific thing -- i tried changing my keyboard's model to PC104 but | is still where it should be, although if i change to an american layout i get > there instead
[09:54] <hbaigu> Pau1ius, dpkg -S /path/to/file
[09:54] <LjL> unop: but your | is next to the left Shift key?
[09:54] <LjL> unop: it really only concerns keyboards that have | there
[09:55] <illriginal> Muzik83 I'm burnin the CD right now to see if it works
[09:55] <Muzik83> ok
[09:55] <nusa42> I've tried to edit xorg.conf but no luck - tried to reconfigure X server to different low level resolution - still no luck - LCD screen (Samsung LE32M5 32" native 1360x768)
[09:55] <EdgEy> is it possible to speed up dd ?
[09:55] <unop> LjL,  on te left hand bottom side of they keyboard, above the WIN key and to the right of shift , yes :)
[09:55] <illriginal> Muzik83 it just started to play the mp3s in k3b so im assuming it's working
[09:55] <EdgEy> dd if /dev/hda of /media/disk/hda6.img bs 1 skip 140000000000
[09:55] <EdgEy> is running ~200 kB/s
[09:55] <jexdawg> this wine tutorial i'm following says: Change to the location where the WineCVS.sh is lying and start it with: sh WineCVS.sh  - uhh.... change what to that location? start it how? huh? haha
[09:55] <unop> s/te/the/ s/they/the/
[09:56] <Locksmith> NUSA42 - Welcome to the club
[09:56] <EnterUserName> hi all.
[09:56] <nusa42> heh
[09:56] <EnterUserName> I can't seem to find the answer to this easily. I'm placing a script in the cron.daily, willt his run aily as it says
[09:56] <LjL> unop: well anyway the problem for me was when i set pc104 from xorg.conf (that is, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) - if you've tried it from inside GNOME, perhaps it doesn't happen there
[09:56] <EnterUserName> dand if so what user
[09:56] <kitche> jexdawg: you need that script it installs wine from CVS
[09:56] <EnterUserName> erk and if so what user will the cron daily will run with?
[09:56] <Vema> Can i send a password with telnet? Ex: telnet server.com 22 password="test" ?
[09:56] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: is there something other I can do?
[09:57] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_,  try ifconfig does it see an eth0 card >
[09:57] <LjL> Vema, no, telnet has no specific support for passwords
[09:57] <jexdawg> kitche, do you mind if I pm/bother you excessively?
[09:57] <nusa42> LjL hmm ... I run with the Intel i855 chipset - set the reconfigure script to i810 -
[09:57] <juraj> i need to compile something for ubuntu how??
[09:57] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yes.
[09:57] <LjL> Vema: (besides, keep in mind that passwrods via telnet is not quite a good idea anyway)
[09:57] <EnterUserName> anyone? Will all scripts run in the cron.daily and what user is it run as?
[09:57] <hbaigu> EdgEy, put bs=1024, ajust the skip value
[09:57] <unop> LjL, yea, i did try it from within gnome -- but it shouldnt make a difference where you change it because a PC104 keyb is a PC104 kb whereever you use it, no?
[09:58] <EdgEy> hbaigu divide skip by 1024 ?
[09:58] <troll_> hey, how can i change my screen resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024?
[09:58] <hbaigu> EdgEy, bs=1024c, yes
[09:58] <albacker> whats the name of the package that creates and installs .deb from source ?
[09:58] <Vema> LjL, So i have to type it in? Yes i know this, its clear text and easy sniff. But i need to send everything without user input
[09:58] <Locksmith> lol TROLL let me know when you figure it out OK
[09:58] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: I'm not sure of the answer to your question, however you can do a crontab -e to edit the crontab file.  If you want it to run as a certain user you can either do the crontab -e command as that user, or there is a way to use root and specify the user (but i'm not sure of how that works)
[09:58] <kitche> jexdawg: not really since I m just typing up a paper but it's already written just transfering it to computer so I can print it
[09:58] <nusa42> LockSmith: heh... really sucks eh!? Used 4 days to set up Mythtv + Ubuntu so everything works (sata, raid, myth .. phew)
[09:58] <unop> albacker,  sudo apt-get -b source package
[09:58] <_Tom_> Oh here we are.
[09:58] <cgeo> guys. i try to bbot with a live cd and all i get is a blank screen when it is supposed to enter the gui.i do hear sound hear sounds and stuff though
[09:58] <albacker> unop, i have the package in .tar.gz
[09:58] <_Tom_> Live CD ftw \o/
[09:59] <EnterUserName> hrm. thank you.
[09:59] <LjL> unop, well, i wouldn't be so sure... after all, a PC105 keyboard is just a PC104 keyboard with one more key ;-) and since i don't really know what the difference is between setting the layout from GNOME and doing it in the X config (but there certainly is a difference), for all i know it may well be that the X config overrides GNOME in that respect
[09:59] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: does that help at all?
[09:59] <nusa42> WHen connecting to my lcd screen - the resolution fucks up ...
[09:59] <troll_> Locksmith, i've tried to add the resolution in the xorg.conf but it doesn't work
[09:59] <_Tom_> I has a quick question about /boot
[09:59] <Locksmith> well I'm on day 1 and I have just about everything working except screen resolution and MP3 player
[09:59] <EnterUserName> I missed some of it cuz of the scrolling im aware of the crontab -e
[09:59] <hbaigu> EdgEy, what are you doing?, you can dd from /dev/hda6, do you know that?
[09:59] <_Tom_> How big would one choose to make their /boot partition?
[09:59] <EnterUserName> i guess i can sudo -i and then put it in the root user
[09:59] <EdgEy> dd if /dev/hda of /media/disk/hda6.img bs 1024 skip 136718750
[10:00] <EnterUserName> thank you
[10:00] <EdgEy> is now running 20mB/s thankyou
[10:00] <EdgEy> hbaigu, yeah, well
[10:00] <unop> albacker,  use the usual way then -- or did you want to do something more debian-specific with it?
[10:00] <EdgEy> i deleted a partition
[10:00] <kitche> !fixres | LockSmith troll_
[10:00] <ubotu> LockSmith troll_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:00] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: it says eth0 and a lot of other stuff..
[10:00] <roo_> _Tom_, not very big, less than 100mb perhaps
[10:00] <Locksmith> TROLL_ I have tried manually editing xorg.conf and running the dpkg and still nothing
[10:00] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: so if i want to run it as someone, I would su to them then do the -e ... its probably not the best solution
[10:00] <LjL> Vema, you could pipe something into telnet. like  echo mypassword | telnet blah.com  22  - i suppose it should work. or use "chat" if you need something more complicated (like, waiting for a login prompt)
[10:00] <cgeo> guys. i try to boot with a live cd and all i get is a blank screen when it is supposed to enter the gui.i do hear sound hear sounds and stuff though
[10:00] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, is there an IP line ?
[10:00] <EdgEy> and i'm trying to image the part of my hdd that the partition was on to use some data recovery software with it
[10:00] <EdgEy> :)
[10:00] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: but those who know seem to be keeping silent :p
[10:00] <EnterUserName> i understand that.. im not too familiar with ubuntu i'll do some testing. thanx
[10:00] <EnterUserName> :)
[10:00] <nusa42> heh - lucky you ! ;) - Took me forever to get Ubuntu to recognize my SATA controller and SpeedStep -
[10:00] <Vema> LjL, Cool, thanks :)
[10:00] <troll_> ubotu, ty
[10:00] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:00] <_Tom_> roo_:  Would I get away with any less than 100MB?
[10:00] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yepp
[10:00] <unop> LjL,  telnet to an ssh port? :o eh?
[10:01] <andre> hey folks
[10:01] <CrakeHunter> hi again, id like to import my conctacts (vcf format) in evolution. do i really have to insert them one by one
[10:01] <roo_> _Tom_, are you that pushed for space?!
[10:01] <_Tom_> nusa42: I'm having the same fun atm :)
[10:01] <LjL> unop: eh, yeah, well, whatever :P
[10:01] <albacker> unop, what's the usual way ? i mean, i dont want to compile it, or maybe it will compile ut i want to install the .deb so itll be easier for unninstalling !
[10:01] <CrakeHunter> or is there a faster way
[10:01] <_Tom_> roo_:  Yes :p
[10:01] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_,  okay I am confused or I did not understand your problem can you repeat yourself please
[10:01] <] {urgan> Hey all, I have a very strange, obscure linux wifi networking issue
[10:01] <nusa42> must have recompiled 2.6.19.3 12-15 times :)
[10:01] <Vema> unop, He was responding to my Q, the port is not the Q
[10:01] <_Tom_> 70GB drive, no more :/
[10:01] <unop> LjL,  that surely will not work .. lol.. telnet does not talk SSH :p
[10:01] <roo_> _Tom_, yes, you would. But remember, most filesystems take up some of the space (for inodes etc), so you'll never get the 'full' amount.
[10:01] <albacker> unop, checkinstall is what i was thinking of.. thanks a lot
[10:01] <andre> I've got a funny issue with the nvidia drivers, upon reboot the screen is bigger than my monitor so by moving the mouse to the edges it shifts the screen around...
[10:02] <_Tom_> I seeee
[10:02] <LjL> unop, really i just used the same port that Vema used in the example... if i have to be honest, right now i don't *remember* what's the telnet standard port :P
[10:02] <_Tom_> Right well, 100MB it will be :)
[10:02] <depinko> Audacity: host not found, can't find audio device........any solutions?
[10:02] <_Tom_> Thanks for your help, roo_
[10:02] <roo_> _Tom_, np.
[10:02] <roo_> depinko, do you get sound outside of audacity?
[10:02] <unop> Vema,  well, if you are trying to telnet to SSH .. all you'll get is garble .. telnet doesnt understand the ssh protocol
[10:02] <unop> LjL,  23 :)
[10:02] <depinko> roo_: yeah
[10:02] <Locksmith> What is a good MP3 player for Ubuntu?
[10:02] <Violent_Solution> howdy
[10:02] <roo_> depinko, no idea then.
[10:02] <SmashCat> Hi, anyone know if amavis-ng is just a test release? Doesn't seem to do anything at all on my server!
[10:02] <LjL> unop: 21 22 and 23 i always mess them up
[10:02] <LjL> !players > Locksmith    (Locksmith, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:03] <roo_> Locksmith, many players work.
[10:03] <Vema> unop, ... The port was not the Q!!
[10:03] <unop> LjL,  ftp, ssh, telnet
[10:03] <depinko> roo_: I read something about killing esd or artsd but it didn't helped
[10:03] <alex_21> i need some help with asterisk....
[10:03] <unop> Vema,  well, i gathered that but i'm trying to save you the hassle
[10:03] <andre> !nvidia9
[10:03] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[10:03] <Violent_Solution> i have a problem getting my wireless card running the drivers are installed  using ndiswrapper but the card (pcmcia) isnt powering up
[10:04] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yeh. I can try... but thanx anyway..
[10:04] <EnterUserName> ok I figured out .. a bit how it works :)
[10:04] <EnterUserName> thankx all
[10:04] <Vema> unop, Ok thanks, but i its ok
[10:04] <] {urgan> This is weird, so I'll try to explain it fully:  I have a number of computers, 2 laptops and 1 desktop, all exhibit the same problem under linux but not under windows.  the problem is that when I first start the computer up, often DNS lookups wont work, unless I manually ping my gateway machine first.  When I ping the gateway machine, often the first ping will take upwards of 400ms to return, and all others after that will come
[10:04] <] {urgan>  back in 2 or 3ms
[10:05] <unop> ] {urgan,  man, what a nickname you have ? :(
[10:05] <LjL> unop: easy to tab complete :)
[10:05] <stonedog> Has anyone had issue with the kernel update killing Nvidia function?
[10:05] <] {urgan> unop, sorry, I cna change if you want :)
[10:05] <unop> LjL,  still, ] <tab> :)
[10:05] <scott__> hey, anyone know of a linux program that can stream video to an xbox360?
[10:06] <kitche> stonedog: yes with each new kernel the nvidia module for hte old kernel is no good anymore
[10:06] <unop> ] {urgan,  it's ok .. i'm just fussy :p
[10:06] <LjL> unop: actually, for me it's just ur<tab>, my client is that smart :P
[10:06] <mojo_> i am having weird problem with my networking... all seems fine except webpages take FOREVER to load... , ffox or even konqueror.. But using Privoxy/Tor is actually faster in ffox..  now my roommates (winxp/ffox) are having no problems at all... so it is not the router or cablenet...  ideas???
[10:06] <roo_> scott__, nope, its not possible.
[10:06] <kitche> stonedog: not sure if they fixed it yet but you can use envy for now or use the old kernel
[10:06] <kitche> !ipv6 | mojo_ if you didn't disable ipv6 yet
[10:06] <ubotu> mojo_ if you didn't disable ipv6 yet: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:06] <CrakeHunter> i would like to import my vcf contact files into evolution. is there another way than to import them one by one ( i know to many ppl for that ;) )
[10:07] <scott__> roo_ im pretty sure it is, as you no longer require emdia centre edition of windows to do it, media connect and wmp 11 can do it
[10:07] <] {urgan> unop, any idea about my problem, I think it's possibly the gateway machine, but it only affects linux machines, so I wondered if it's MMU or something strange
[10:07] <unop> ] {urgan,  have you tried disabling IPv6 in the kernel and other network apps
[10:07] <stonedog> envy?  I figured I'd have to look up the version of the new kernel and reload the old one...but what is envy?
[10:07] <roo_> scott__, and how can you get media connect and wmp 11 on linux?
[10:07] <] {urgan> unop, no, thats a good idea, I'll try that
[10:07] <kitche> !envy | stonedog
[10:07] <ubotu> stonedog: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[10:07] <scott__> roo_ you cant, but various other windows program will stream video to it
[10:07] <andre> !nvidia9
[10:07] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[10:07] <mojo_> thanks kitche i'll check that out... but wonder how it got turned on ... stuff was fine not that long ago... hmm
[10:08] <SmashCat> Anyone know of a replacement for amavis?
[10:08] <roo_> scott__, I see, interesting. Its been a month or so since I tried. TVersity looked promising, but it was extremely buggy when I tried it.
[10:08] <bart_> SmashCat ClamAV?
[10:08] <daviey> Is there a tool i can use to automatically wget from an rss feed?
[10:08] <tuskernini> does anyone know how to chat with netcat through a network?
[10:08] <stonedog> thanks folks!
[10:09] <unop> LjL,  what client you running?
[10:09] <mojo_> hmm maybe it was my kernel update to .17 from .15... could've been...
[10:09] <SmashCat> bart_: I have clamAV installed too, I think amavis is a dead project, wondered if it was continuing under another name.
[10:10] <troll_> how can i see my x server driver?
[10:10] <roo_> scott__, I saw there was a way to stream using vlc that transcode to wmv on the fly, but i couldnt get the linux release of vlc to work.
[10:10] <Drago84> salve
[10:10] <FantasticFoo> i have a weird problem. i recently installed ubuntu edgy on my dell laptop. whenever i first start firefox after i reboot, it crashes. then after that firefox functions flawlessly
[10:10] <FantasticFoo> anybody know what this is about?
[10:10] <scott__> roo_, cheers, i will look into it
[10:10] <LjL> unop: konversation
[10:10] <LjL> !it | Drago84
[10:10] <ubotu> Drago84: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:10] <troll_> Drago84, questo  in ing collegati a -it
[10:10] <] {urgan> unop, remind me, I just comment out the net-pf-10 ipv6 line from /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (or wherever the aliases file is now)
[10:10] <troll_> how can i see my x server driver?
[10:10] <bart_> Is there a way to exclude packages from the Update Manager ?
[10:10] <Drago84> haaaaaaaa
[10:10] <EnterUserName> why does crontab run anacron it doesnt look like it actually does anything..
[10:10] <Drago84> :D
[10:10] <] {urgan> unop, or do I have to change ti to off, or something weird
[10:10] <roo_> scott__, my problem was that i couldn't find ANYTHING that transcodes to wmv. FROM wmv no problem, but a wmv encoder was impossible
[10:10] <LjL> troll_: try lshw -class display
[10:11] <Violent_Solution> i have a problem getting my wireless card running the drivers are installed  using ndiswrapper but the card (pcmcia) isnt powering up
[10:11] <alex_21> anybody know asterisk???i need some help
[10:11] <unop> tuskernini,  on the server -- nc -v -L t -p 666 -- on the client - nc servername 666
[10:11] <EnterUserName> am i looking at it wrong or can someone give me a hint.. from the cron.daily it looks like if it checks if its esxecuteable.. then updates timestamps but does nothing..
[10:11] <tuskernini> unop,  thank you will try it out
[10:11] <unop> !ipv6 | ] {urgan
[10:11] <ubotu> ] {urgan: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:12] <tuskernini> unop, as we spoke just read it on http://www.rohitab.com/discuss/lofiversion/index.php/t11812.html
[10:12] <stonedog> Roo_, I don't know that there is any FOSS stuff that will transcode into wmv.
[10:12] <Zorg95> hi, i am just curous whether the next release of Ubuntu will be Long Term Supported as the Dapper Drake is... anybody knows?
[10:12] <witless> hi.  can i burn an mpg file to a dvd and play it in a regular dvd player?
[10:12] <LjL> Zorg95: no, it won't
[10:12] <bart_> witless : no , you must convert that mpg to a .vob file before a dvdplayer can play it
[10:12] <roo_> stonedog, scott__ - yeah, a lack of a wmv encoder seems to be the sticking point for linux->360 streaming :(
[10:12] <pear> does anyone know if Ubuntu plans to introduce this silly new Vista/DRM standards to future releases? any news on that?
[10:12] <witless> bart_: how can i do that?
[10:12] <Violent_Solution> can someone gimmie a hand with my wireless card problem please?
[10:13] <scott__> roo_,  bah :(
[10:13] <Flannel> Zorg95: it'll most likely be 7.10
[10:13] <cables> pear, why would Ubuntu put DRM in?
[10:13] <Bakefy> I have a folder that has a locked icon, I cannot delete it.
[10:13] <unop> tuskernini,  yea, it's probably where i copied that command from too (a few years ago)
[10:13] <cables> !wifi | Violent_Solution, try this first:
[10:13] <ubotu> Violent_Solution, try this first:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:13] <roo_> stonedog, scott__ - unless of course there is a windows implementation of wmv encoder that will run under wine. but performance might be shit..
[10:13] <Zorg95> thanks a lot
[10:13] <pear> cables: because its the new snazzy standard, and i heard even Linus said he wasnts it in the lnx kernel?
[10:13] <Scott___> hello
[10:13] <mojo_> okay kitche i'll give those changes a try... thanks!!  bbiab
[10:13] <bart_> witless : try with mencoder (it's a program that comes with MPlayer)
[10:13] <Violent_Solution> thanks ill see what i can find from tehre
[10:13] <Scott___> i need help
[10:13] <nusa42> How about restarting X server from the console - anyone jow the syntex (how to kill it - I know the startx syntax)
[10:13] <unop> roo_,  wmv, just say no!! :)
[10:13] <stonedog> Witless, try Avidemux to do the transcoding for you.  Transcode into MP2 and then KMediaFactory or something similar to make the DVD .iso for you
[10:14] <] {urgan> cheers ubotu and unop, I'll be back once I've rebooted
[10:14] <witless> ok, thanks bart_ stonedog
[10:14] <alex_21> i want to use chan_bluetooth but it's imposible
[10:14] <roo_> unop, I know.. i feel dirty even saying it, but there's not a lot of choice. Plus, i want to transcode on the fly, so its only temporarily dirty :p
[10:14] <Bakefy> what is the command to delete folders in terminal
[10:14] <Scott___> so i just installed ubuntu, and everythign is fine, it sits on a 10gb partition (1 of 4 including the linux swap, on my hard drive)
[10:14] <nusa42> rmdir
[10:15] <Scott___> except I cant connect to the internet
[10:15] <nusa42> Bakefy: rmdir
[10:15] <Littlegator> Quick Question: cp is the copy command, right?
[10:15] <unop> roo_,  some important trivia (oxymoron?) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <juraj> i have something in source code how to compile that for ubuntu?
[10:15] <Flannel> !compile | juraj
[10:15] <ubotu> juraj: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:15] <Muzik83> bakefy: rmdir if the folder is empty, and rm -ri if the folder has stuff in it...
[10:15] <pear> anyway, this new Vista DRM and tieing the OS to hardware IDs sounds like a nightmare...so I'm going to dump Windows and ONLY use Linux now. stupid MS
[10:15] <nusa42> Littlegator: yes
[10:15] <cables> pear, you mean Trusted Computing?
[10:15] <tuskernini> unop, wierd with the nc -v -L t -p 666 i get a invalid option -- L
[10:15] <juraj> ok thanks
[10:15] <unop> roo_,  off course there's choice -- the most popular at the moment happens to be another non-free format - .flv :)
[10:15] <reap> would it be worth it for me to go with the 6.10 installation
[10:15] <reap> or the older one?
[10:16] <reap> first time ubuntu user
[10:16] <cables> reap, try both, see if you have any problems with either.
[10:16] <thegve> Hello. I've got an SD slot in my laptop. When I insert my 2GB fat32 SD card, it will only mount read-only.
[10:16] <cables> reap, try both on the livecd.
[10:16] <roo_> unop, err, i know about these issues.. im quite an active f/oss developer :) i just want to watch movies on my 360 but streaming them!
[10:16] <stonedog> I like 6.10, but either way you are going to be fine.
[10:16] <thegve> Does anybody know how I can get it to work?
[10:16] <reap> kk
[10:16] <alex_21> please anybody can help me with asterisk?????????'
[10:16] <Littlegator> Why, when I try to copy a directory to a folder, does it say "omitting ** directory" ?
[10:16] <alex_21> please anybody can help me with asterisk?????????'
[10:16] <cables> thegve, check the write-protect tab
[10:16] <EdgEy> reap i would say try 6.10 and if you have any major issues switch, i see no real reason to use 6.06 on the desktop unless you are having issues
[10:16] <Scott___> ive installed ubuntu 6.10, and it wont connect to the internet
[10:16] <alex_21> please anybody can help me with asterisk?????????'
[10:16] <cables> alex_21, check #asterisk
[10:16] <reap> its going on a fairly bland system
[10:16] <Bakefy> thanks Muzik83
[10:16] <unop> roo_,  ogg then (if you really seek FOSS approval) :)
[10:16] <Muzik83> reap: I use both.. provided both are problem free then I would use 6.10, it has more eye-candy
[10:16] <reap> AMD XP1500
[10:17] <reap> ATI 8500
[10:17] <reap> ok
[10:17] <reap> ya ill try the 6.10
[10:17] <thegve> cables: I've checked the obvious :) Tested using both settings
[10:17] <roo_> unop, do you know what an xbox 360 is? are you implying that an xbox 360 will play ogg theora files?
[10:17] <mega_fauna> !rules
[10:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:17] <unop> tuskernini, try -l instead there
[10:17] <Cyrus25801> what can i play swf and flv files with
[10:17] <tuskernini> unop, will do
[10:17] <EdgEy> Cyrus firefox should load swf with the flash plugin
[10:17] <Flannel> Cyrus25801: flash
[10:17] <cables> Cyrus25801, flash?
[10:17] <thegve> cables: Forget to test it in my PDA
[10:17] <cables> !flash | Cyrus25801
[10:17] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:17] <Littlegator> that was amazing xD
[10:17] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:17] <Cyrus25801> yea flash
[10:18] <cables> thegve, that would be good :)
[10:18] <Littlegator> anyone know how to install cursor themes?
[10:18] <unop> roo_, errm, depends - what are you using to stream?
[10:18] <thegve> cables: The card was OK
[10:18] <cables> Littlegator, yep, hold on a minute
[10:19] <roo_> unop, huh? it doesnt depend on what you use to stream, it depends on the format of the video being streamed to the xbox.
[10:20] <mega_fauna> Hi, I need help with a new install which won't boot
[10:20] <foutrelis> Do you know any vmware like software for Ubuntu?
[10:20] <Bakefy> Muzik83 I have a folder that as a lock on it... i tryed deleting it in terminal, but it still didnt work?
[10:20] <stonedog> xbox is M$ product so it will likely only take their twisted Mpeg4 stuff.  The .wmv format.
[10:20] <unop> roo_,  ahh n/m me .. :)
[10:20] <GenNMX> Anyone use a USB Switch? I'm trying to google right now to find any tested-and-true for 2.6.x -- so far, not good. I want to be able to switch between my Windows and Linux desktops without unplugging and replugging (monitor has dual input)
[10:20] <unop> Littlegator,  did you get an answer to your cp question ?
[10:20] <norf-ubu> foutrelis:  yes - vmware is available for linux too
[10:21] <seraphim> foutrelis: qemu
[10:21] <kaptengu> can I change a setting so I don't have to be root to mount stuff?
[10:21] <CageX> ok i just installed the software beautifull
[10:21] <roo_> whats the name of the partition table recover program? aaah, cant remember the name! checkdisk.. something like that
[10:21] <Rhyolite> what is the status of Serial Attached SCSI support?  The information in the UbuntuForums doesn't seem definitive.
[10:21] <cables> Littlegator, put them in ~/.icons
[10:21] <deLatz> hey there, how do I disable "tooltips" in gnome????
[10:21] <Bakefy> GenNMX, what about a kvm switch?
[10:21] <CageX> how do i make it look 3D
[10:21] <foutrelis> norf-ubu: Fogot to mention I was looking for something free or open source. sorry :)
[10:21] <ovidijusnorvilas> hi all
[10:21] <kurt> night folks
[10:21] <cables> Littlegator, extract and put in ~/.icons
[10:21] <ovidijusnorvilas> maby somewhone can help me
[10:21] <foutrelis> thank you seraphim, norf-ubu
[10:21] <roo_> ah - testdisk!
[10:21] <CageX> you know change from one look to another
[10:21] <GenNMX> Bakefy: They cost like 2x more, and the keyboard and mouse are both USB. So it would have to be a USB KVM anyway.
[10:21] <norf-ubu> foutrelis:  the vmware player is - if not QEMU
[10:22] <roo_> Rhyolite, try it :)
[10:22] <ovidijusnorvilas> understand how start use ubuntu linux?
[10:22] <kaptengu> how do I change the security level for mount, I don't want to write sudo mount?
[10:22] <Littlegator> cables, I can't copy them to icons, the GUI paste says I need admin priveliges and I'm doing something wrong when I try to copy it in terminal
[10:22] <cables> Littlegator, it's your own home folder...
[10:22] <Littlegator> cables: I know, but it doesn't let me
[10:22] <cables> Littlegator, do alt-f2, then gksudo nautilus, then use that.
[10:22] <unop> kaptengu, errm, i think if the entry exists in /etc/mtab for that partition, you should be able to mount it
[10:22] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: what do you need help with: do you have it downloaded? Installed?
[10:22] <stonedog> And, vmware is going to be included into the Kernel here soon.  Was going to be compiled into the Feisty issue but may not make it until the next one.
[10:23] <CageX> it shows as box and four sides how can i make it show that???
[10:23] <Bakefy> GenNMX, what are you wanting to spend?  i have a kvm that i use and its got the usb to ps/1 adapter it was like 30
[10:23] <Rhyolite> I was hoping to use SAS with Dapper, but it appears incomplete
[10:23] <foutrelis> norf-ubu: I want to install Ubuntu server on a virtual environment :P
[10:23] <kaptengu> thx unop
[10:23] <Rhyolite> Is SAS better supported in Edgy?
[10:23] <DarkSalmon> When I start Lirc manually with `sudo lircd`, my ir-transmitter works fine.  I've tired every method of getting lircd to load on boot, but it never seems to work.  Can anyone offer some advise?
[10:23] <jrib> kaptengu: anyone can run mount but you need permission to mount a partition
[10:23] <Littlegator> cables: oh yeah, forgot about that :p
[10:23] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik....today I instal ubuntu Linux 5.04 to my pc
[10:23] <infidel> does anyone have a cell phone that uses a mini sd chip?
[10:23] <unop> kaptengu, is this a removable drive?
[10:23] <Bakefy> GenNMX, it does stereo sound too.
[10:23] <] {urgan> outstanding, that seems to have fixed it!
[10:23] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, how upgrade ubuntu?
[10:23] <norf-ubu> foutrelis:  each to his own lol
[10:23] <kinlo> hi, where, do I config the appereance of the "shutdown" button on the quit menu?  I now can only choose between hibernate and suspend... I want shutdown...
[10:23] <ovidijusnorvilas> How instal video and audio codex?
[10:23] <jrib> kaptengu: look up the "user" and/or "users" option in 'man mount' and use the one you think is appropriate in /etc/fstab for your partition
[10:24] <CageX> anyone can help me with some basic questions?
[10:24] <ovidijusnorvilas> until today i used Windows
[10:24] <kaptengu> unop: network share, but can I give my user account permission to mount?
[10:24] <ovidijusnorvilas> How instal skype?
[10:24] <foutrelis> CageX: Sure :)
[10:24] <GenNMX> Bakefy: My keyboard has special functions that need USB (no, not "media functions", it's a gaming keyboard). And I don't need audio switcher, I have a separate receiver.
[10:24] <CageX> foutrelis how can i make it look 3D and change from one screen to another
[10:24] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, go to skype.com, they provide an Ubuntu package.
[10:24] <unop> kaptengu,  look at what jrib just said -- thats how you'd do it
[10:24] <] {urgan> unop, Cheers, now for a slightly more complex question then.  If the issue is that my desktops are using ipv6, and the router doesn't understand ipv6 (hence the delay), If I upgrade the router to have ipv6, things will work?  or is that too complex?
[10:24] <CageX> foutrelis: do i need another program to do that??
[10:24] <ovidijusnorvilas> Cables, I download it to my pc
[10:25] <foutrelis> CageX: Beryl can do that.
[10:25] <kaptengu> ohh thx unop and jrib
[10:25] <ovidijusnorvilas> but i dont know how instal it in my pc
[10:25] <stonedog> I know that automatix will allow you to install skype.  I think there is a Linux version on the skype site too
[10:25] <foutrelis> !beryl | CageX
[10:25] <ubotu> CageX: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:25] <Bakefy> GenNMX, okay.  goodluck with your search, I am sure a product exists I just have not seeen one
[10:25] <gtweedy> hi all
[10:25] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, is it a .deb file? In that case, double-clicking should open an installer.
[10:25] <jrib> !skipe | stonedog
[10:25] <gtweedy> need some help with xorg
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Littlegator> cables: I have them in my icons folder but they didn't work
[10:25] <jrib> !skype | stonedog
[10:25] <ubotu> stonedog: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:25] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: im not sure about 5.10, but you can try something called EasyUbuntu.  It has many codecs which are not free/open source.  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:26] <SmashCat> Looks like amavis-new is the one to use. amavis-ng is a borked package - dunno why it's available really...
[10:26] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, did you try doubleclicking? If that doesn't work, use dpkg -i <pathtopackage>
[10:26] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, is possible somehow talk in privat?
[10:26] <cables> Littlegator, I have no idea
[10:26] <ciplogic> Hi everyone, after upgrade xserver-xorg I've got the error: missing font fixed, which package should I install
[10:26] <ovidijusnorvilas> what is dpkg and where it is?
[10:26] <unop> ] {urgan,  errm, the public internet isnt IPv6 ready as of yet -- so it's quite unlikely -- although some sites are beginning to support IPv6, but to reach them you need a IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel (6over4) at the moment .. so you should probably wait on the IPv6 thing
[10:26] <Littlegator> cables: Do they have to be in folders or directly in the icons folder?
[10:27] <cgeo> guys i have problems loading ubuntu live cd. although it seems to load the gui i cannot see anything. the monitor turns off
[10:27] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, easyubuntu is a bad idea
[10:27] <foutrelis> !dpkg | ovidijusnorvilas
[10:27] <ubotu> ovidijusnorvilas: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:27] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, you should just doubleclick the .deb file you downloaded.
[10:27] <fulhack> Hello. Any ideas on whereabouts I may find help with openLDAP?
[10:27] <ovidijusnorvilas> sorry for questions, but i never use ubuntu or other Linux system
[10:27] <cables> Littlegator, it should be in its own folder
[10:27] <unop> fulhack,  in #ldap
[10:27] <ovidijusnorvilas> ok, I will try send skype
[10:27] <foutrelis> ovidijusnorvilas: You can call it from within a terminal. Also see its man page for usage information
[10:27] <ovidijusnorvilas> again and try instal
[10:27] <Littlegator> cables: Well it's in it's own folder...
[10:28] <babo> does anyone know which mplayer plugins i need to get mplayer to play a straight flv file ?#
[10:28] <] {urgan> unop, but my router at home is an ipcop linux firewall, so if I upgrade it to ipv6 ready, the problem will be solved for inside my network, and I just ahve to make sure that the firewall knows that it's adsl connection is ipv4 only
[10:28] <unop> babo,  it does play .flv files if you have the mplayer-codes or w32codecs installed
[10:28] <cables> Littlegator, check to make sure it's not 2 folders deep...
[10:28] <] {urgan> unop, or is it easier to just modify every one of my internal computers to not use ipv6, well I knwo that would be easier, but it feels slightly hacky! :)
[10:28] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, did you get my PM?
[10:29] <Pie-rate> WTF, ubuntu decided to replace my generic kernel with a 386 one that doesn't support dual core.
[10:29] <leftStanding> hi all, i've searched the forums for awhile, tried out easycam2 loaded up as many modules that bear the ov* moniker, but the /dev/video still reports "no decompressor available", did i miss a step? or is there more to the process?
[10:29] <babo> unop: how can I get the codecs ?
[10:29] <] {urgan> unop, bvesides I'm a geek, one day I might like to try ipv6 (although I dont know what I'd do if I didn't know all the private addressing schemes anymore!
[10:29] <babo> unop: are they in the repos ?
[10:29] <Littlegator> cables: There is the folder, and inside is an index.theme file, and another folder with files in it
[10:29] <unop> !w32codecs | babo
[10:29] <ubotu> babo: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:29] <cables> Littlegator, no idea... can't help you. Sorry
[10:30] <lindomar> #patrocinio
[10:31] <unop> ] {urgan,  well, the thing with linux (i hate this one thing about the linux kernel) is that IPv6 lookups are done before IPv4 is tried .. so there's always going to be that delay (which doesnt help your problem now if you keep IPv6) .. but yea, you could use IPv6 for somethings at home, like i do
[10:31] <andatche> is there any reason the ndiswrapper-source file shipped with edgy doesn't include the debian/control file required to build it?
[10:31] <jexdawg> i just installed steam via wine and it froze on me, locked the whole computer, and forced me to physically press the restart button. it loaded back up but now i am missing the "tasks" bar. like, if you minimize this window, it goes to the bottom of the screen ... that bar is gone
[10:31] <babo> unop: will easyubuntu drag them in, without me having to reconfigure the repos ?
[10:31] <ovidijusnorvilas> why I cannot respence in privat?
[10:31] <cables> !easyubuntu | babo
[10:31] <ubotu> babo: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:31] <ovidijusnorvilas> responce
[10:31] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, because you're not registered with NickServ
[10:31] <unop> babo,  errm, i dont know really -- not sure
[10:32] <quaal> anyone know where the picture gets saved when you use firefox to 'set desktop background'
[10:32] <ovidijusnorvilas> how registered?
[10:32] <babo> cables: right, will it bring in the w32codes ?
[10:32] <unop> babo,  best you manually add them in tho
[10:32] <mymymy> hi people. do you know how i can find out if ubuntu is making use of the hardware acceleration of my VGA-Card ?
[10:32] <cables> babo, easyubuntu is a really bad idea.
[10:32] <cables> babo, as is automatix
[10:32] <grimboy> mymymy, glxgears
[10:32] <unop> quaal,  doesnt the gnome-desktop-properties tell you ?
[10:32] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, can you answer my question? Is the file you downloaded from skype.com a .deb file?
[10:32] <ovidijusnorvilas> Cables....how registered here?
[10:32] <Muzik83> quaal: it should be in your home directory (mine is using gnome)
[10:32] <leftStanding> mymymy: another program to try is glxinfo
[10:32] <kinlo> hi, where, do I config the appereance of the "shutdown" button on the quit menu?  I now can only choose between hibernate and suspend... I want shutdown... (ubuntu 6.10)
[10:32] <ovidijusnorvilas> cables, yes. it is  .deb file
[10:32] <foutrelis> mymymy: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:33] <leftStanding> at the top there's a line that spits out if it's using rendering
[10:33] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, double-clicking it didn't work?
[10:33] <unop> ] {urgan,  how much lag do you initially have with these DNS lookups?
[10:33] <quaal> Muzik83, yea you're right
[10:33] <quaal> thanks
[10:33] <mytruehero> I'm having some trouble mounting my secondary harddrive. It's NTFS formatted, and when I type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint" I don't get any errors, but when I try to access /media/mountpoint, I get an error window saying "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mountpoint."" Any idea why that might be happening?
[10:33] <quaal> unop, what is gnome-desktop-properties ?
[10:33] <foutrelis> mymymy: If you get a 'direct rendering: Yes' message then everything is fine :)
[10:33] <ovidijusnorvilas> cables, wait a little
[10:33] <mymymy> grimboy: that shows me some cogwheels
[10:33] <ovidijusnorvilas> I am resending file
[10:33] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, you mean downloading?
[10:33] <unop> quaal,  it's the utility that pops-up when you right click the desktop and select properties
[10:33] <ovidijusnorvilas> yes
[10:34] <ovidijusnorvilas> redownloading
[10:34] <grimboy> mymymy, Right, but are they skippy?
[10:34] <mymymy> leftstanding, foutrelis: direct rendering: Yes
[10:34] <quaal> unop, hmm i dont have a 'properties' option ?
[10:34] <mymymy> grim: no, they run smoooooothly
[10:34] <quaal> change desktop background only
[10:34] <leftStanding> mymymy: then its working
[10:34] <] {urgan> unop, DNS queries just wouldn't work at all, so using any program, like firefox, or whatver would timeout and fail to connect, as if there was no network.  I always had to use the ping program to ping the gateway, using it's ipaddress.  that would seem to wake it up, but the first ping would always take between 200 and 400ms to return
[10:34] <tier1972> sorry, i dont know how to install a functionating ati driver (open-source or proprietary). only mesa. otherwise the display keeps to be black. i cant switch to console. the grafic is down.
[10:34] <mymymy> leftstanding, foutrelis, grimboy: im asking because firefox renders animates websites (javascript) a lot slower then internet explorer.
[10:35] <mymymy> leftstanding, foutrelis, grimboy: i mean firefox on linux and ie on windows
[10:35] <ChrisH> hi folks, I need some advice on installing the latest ubuntu without using the non-standard kernel
[10:35] <grimboy> mymymy, Firefox doesn't use hardware acceleration.
[10:35] <mymymy> grim: ah ok!
[10:35] <winds_of_change> Hello
[10:35] <grimboy> mymymy, Neither does IE.
[10:36] <mymymy> hehe
[10:36] <] {urgan> unop, as I said I was very confused, however having jsut repowered my desktop, it connected immedietly to everything, so I think that disabling ipv6 seemed to fix it.
[10:36] <foutrelis> grimboy: hmmm.. Is that why firefox on win is more responsive?
[10:36] <tier1972> is a radeon n9600/9700 mobilty. sanybody the same?
[10:36] <ovidijusnorvilas> hmmmm....Muzik, not work
[10:36] <mymymy> grimboy: but firefox renders html animated by javascript a lot slower then ie
[10:36] <stonedog> regarding the Nvidia break due to the kernel update.  Easy way to get the machine back up until we get an updated nvidia module...change the "nvidia" driver option in xorg.conf back to "nv" and presto.
[10:36] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: ok it was worth a try, sorry :p
[10:36] <waterpear> mymymy, that's because firefox is slower than ie
[10:36] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, thank you:)
[10:36] <grimboy> mymymy, Well then that's to do with the speed of the JS virtual machine.
[10:36] <feryana> Hi!
[10:37] <grimboy> mymymy, Which is being rewritten by the way.
[10:37] <andatche> is there any reason the ndiswrapper-source package shipped with edgy doesn't include the debian/control file required to build it?
[10:37] <feryana> I would like to know how can I store song in my iPoD with Linux....
[10:37] <mymymy> grim: yeah, i heard about it.
[10:37] <Music_Shuffle> !ipod | feryana
[10:37] <ubotu> feryana: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:37] <mymymy> i hope it will catch up!
[10:37] <] {urgan> unop, Now for my home network, the DNS server is running on the ipcop gateway, so if that actually had an ipv6 address, or responded via the ipv4 tunnel for ipv6, then I figure the dns lookups would work fine, and the gateway itself may experience the delay wheen connecting to the ADSL router, but internal clients would not experience the slowdown
[10:37] <andatche> makes using a custom kernel a bit of a pain
[10:37] <winds_of_change> i'm sorry the question but someone knows why k3b says to me that i don`t have one dvd ... in dvd-rom and in gnome when i put the dvd the ubuntu ask to me if i want to createone cd\dvd
[10:37] <unop> quaal,  n/m, it doesnt do it  .. i thought it might but it doesnt tell you what file is being used
[10:37] <stonedog> peace guys...thanks for the help!
[10:38] <] {urgan> unop, uncidently, the slowdown happened regardless of whether I was trying to get dns info on an internal computer (like my mail server) or for an internet site, didn't seem to matter
[10:38] <mytruehero> I'm having some trouble mounting my secondary harddrive. It's NTFS formatted, and when I type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint" I don't get any errors, but when I try to access /media/mountpoint, I get an error window saying "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mountpoint."" Any idea why that might be happening?
[10:38] <andatche> has anyone got ndiswrapper-source to build using m-a in edgy?
[10:38] <unop> ] {urgan, hmm, probably a DNS server issue in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:38] <tuskernini> Question, is it possible that i can read a USB stick and HDD from my USB and NOT a usbcam?
[10:39] <unop> ] {urgan,  what does a dig or nslookup do then?
[10:39] <sharms> how can I setup ppp to dial another number if the first one fails?
[10:39] <unop> sharms,  errm, how do you start a ppp connection -- do you use a command?
[10:39] <tier1972> join #ubuntu-de
[10:40] <ChrisH> how do you install the standard 6.10 with a non-generic kernel?
[10:40] <] {urgan> unop, I dont think so, the resolv.conf is obviously rewritten by DHCP, and the dns server in it, is the gateway internally (192.168.0.254).  when I tried dig before, it just hung like all the other applications, like it wasn't getting a response from the dns server
[10:40] <sharms> unop: just a typical setup where I dial my isp
[10:40] <Slart> tuskernini: yes, its very possible.. one is almost standard when it comes to drivers and such.. the other is very special and only works sometimes.. up to you to guess what goes where
[10:40] <unop> mytruehero,  look at the mount man page for issues with the ntfs fs .. or try using the user,uid/gid options with that mount point
[10:40] <mhiku> lol
[10:41] <mhiku> i did got a binary and all work fine
[10:41] <mhiku> hahaha
[10:41] <] {urgan> unop, I'm just trying out my laptop, as I ahven't fixced that yet and it's been off for a few days so should definately exhibit the problem
[10:41] <tuskernini> Slart, but i can read my usb 2.5 hdd and not a cam nor mouse... still normal? i know the cam needs drivers... but the mouse?
[10:41] <Belgain> hi there - quick question: is there any simple way to start a program in such a way that it gets automatically restarted in case it crashes/exits?
[10:42] <Slart> tuskernini: usb mice should work.. unless it's something special about it
[10:42] <tuskernini> Slart, and my other USB port... reads my mouse and cam...
[10:42] <Slart> tuskernini: oh.. well.. that makes it a bit different..
[10:42] <cmt^^> How do I change my $PATH permanently?
[10:42] <antonio__> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound, running ubuntu 6.10 macbook pro... have tried everything
[10:42] <unop> ] {urgan,  is the DNS server on the same IP subnet as the clients using it?
[10:43] <unop> cmt^^,  add this line to the end of ~/.bashrc -- export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[10:43] <Slart> tuskernini: never seen different kinds of USB ports on a mother board.. they usually all work or noone works
[10:43] <tuskernini> Slart, would that be software? or hardware... because the "weak" usb reads one of my usb keys and usb hdd
[10:43] <cmt^^> thanks unop
[10:43] <winds_of_change> why ubuntu write in the dvd?! only because i make eject grrrrrrrrr i lose one dvd think lol :|
[10:43] <leftStanding> hi all, i've searched the forums for awhile, tried out easycam2 loaded up as many modules that bear the ov* moniker, but the /dev/video still reports "no decompressor available", did i miss a step? or is there more to the process?
[10:43] <feryana> thanks!
[10:43] <winds_of_change> oh no it is here lol this is cruisel mysystem :|
[10:43] <unop> cmt^^,  after that you'll either need to run this -- source ~/.bashrc   or restart the terminal
[10:44] <feryana> and the last question
[10:44] <feryana> how can I open a .rar with Linux?
[10:44] <Hoosteen> hiyas peeps!
[10:44] <Slart> tuskernini: I have no idea what might be wrong... is there a pattern to what works? ie things that need lots of power only works in one port..
[10:44] <] {urgan> unop, yup
[10:44] <tuskernini> Slart, it is an ibm laptop... the bottom one does not read everything... irritating... could it not be usb 2?
[10:44] <jason0_> Anyone know how I can install php-fcgi?
[10:44] <winds_of_change> feryana downloads from rarlabs the command line
[10:44] <jason0_> Can't seem to find it in synaptic
[10:44] <winds_of_change> and folow thereadme instructions
[10:44] <winds_of_change> is easy
[10:44] <feryana> winds_of_change how can I do that?
[10:44] <Slart> tuskernini: well.. I guess you could put 1 usb 1.1 port and 1 usb 2.0 port on the same device.. but it seems kind of odd... the 2.0 ones are backwards compatible after all
[10:44] <tuskernini> Slart, i was thinking something like that... but a usbhdd needs a little power i would guess... atleast as much as a mouse...
[10:45] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, are you here?
[10:45] <Slart> tuskernini: yes.. I would agree.. a hd should need more power than a mouse
[10:45] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: yes but I need to go soon
[10:45] <Wyzard> I just did a clean install of edgy, and when I first log in I get a message saying that the GNOME Settings daemon couldn't be started, and GTK is using the ugly default theme instead of Ubuntu's normal one
[10:45] <tuskernini> Slart, that is what confuses me...
[10:45] <winds_of_change> feryana easy ... go to winrar website and download the rar to linux then just install
[10:45] <feryana> cool
[10:45] <feryana> thanls
[10:45] <winds_of_change> use the unrar or rar
[10:46] <tuskernini> Slart, is it possible for one usb port to need other drivers as the other?
[10:46] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, i download skype  debina file .deb
[10:46] <ovidijusnorvilas> but I cannnot instal it
[10:46] <Slart> tuskernini: perhaps there is someone here that knows all about USB ports, chipsets, drivers and such.. but I'm not that person
[10:46] <ovidijusnorvilas> Because my system read it like archive file
[10:46] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: what does it say if you double click it?
[10:46] <unop> ] {urgan, errm, i cant seem to think of why your linux clients would think the router doesnt exist or take so long to lookup/ping initially .. while the windows clients are ok
[10:46] <] {urgan> unop, dammit, would you believe it, laptop wont do it now..  shoot.
[10:47] <Slart> tuskernini: I guess you could put two different usb chips  on the same motherboard.. it seems dumb.. but such a beast might exist =)
[10:47] <tuskernini> Slart, thank you for the help though... i hope i get this one figured out... dont want to install windows to check if it works there...
[10:47] <unop> ] {urgan,  it could be the router - it's probably biased :)
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> when i open it with doble click
[10:47] <Yodude> hey how do i get theme for my ubuntu dekstop?
[10:47] <feryana> winrar.com?
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> it is open
[10:47] <zOap> what was the name of the gui to control wacom tablets?
[10:47] <Slart> tuskernini: perhaps try booting a live cd or two.. see if it's the same
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> like archive file
[10:47] <feryana> I I dont' find nothing to download
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> and then I can see
[10:47] <unop> ] {urgan,  what wont the laptop do?
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> two files with .gz
[10:47] <tuskernini> Slart, will do... take care
[10:47] <antonio__> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound, running ubuntu 6.10 macbook pro... have tried everything
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> and third is debian binary
[10:48] <] {urgan> unop, the weird thing is that the router is linux itself, the only other thing I can think of is the wireless access point
[10:48] <feryana> winds_of_change you mean a linux version, or emulate it with wine... I ddo not find linux version
[10:48] <] {urgan> unop, laptop worked fine on first boot :(
[10:48] <antonio__> including compiling alsa
[10:48] <ovidijusnorvilas> but skype is not instaling
[10:48] <mytruehero> I'm having some trouble mounting my secondary harddrive. It's NTFS formatted, and when I type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint" I don't get any errors, but when I try to access /media/mountpoint, I get an error window saying "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mountpoint."" Any idea why that might be happening?
[10:48] <winds_of_change> feryana noooooo winrar have linux software suport
[10:48] <winds_of_change> you are complicate relax
[10:48] <unop> ] {urgan,  so ,.. the linux router connects upto another router/modem ??
[10:48] <EdgEy> mytruehero only root will be able to access the mounted drive if you mount using sudo
[10:49] <feryana> wind_of_change, the page is winrar.com? I dont find nothing
[10:49] <winds_of_change> feryana http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
[10:49] <EdgEy> try man mount, there is an option to set so that all users can access it
[10:49] <feryana> thanks
[10:49] <feryana> again!
[10:49] <mytruehero> EdgEy: Ah, interesting. I will take a look - thanks!
[10:49] <winds_of_change> feryana lol winrar.com is not the winrar software website lol
[10:49] <winds_of_change> :)
[10:49] <unop> mytruehero,  try this command - gksudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /media/mountpoint
[10:50] <winds_of_change> feryana isyou whith rar and me whith dvds :x lol
[10:50] <feryana> hhahaha winds_of_change I must download de command line one?
[10:50] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: if you right click on the skype file which you downloaded, do you have the option "Install with GDebi Package Installer" ?
[10:51] <feryana> for linux htere is not graphyc
[10:51] <] {urgan> unop, yeh, if you want to know it works kinda co9mplicated, but for various reasons.  I have an ADSL router, that has an ethernet out, and uses the 10.0.0.x/255.0.0.0 ipaddress range.  I have two servers, one of which runs vmware, and under vmware runs an ipcop firewall, which has a 10.0.0.x address, and also a 192.168.0.254 address.  The servers both have 192.168.0. addresses as well, and the ipcop firewall provides dhcp addre
[10:51] <] {urgan> sses in the 192.168.0.x range.  Finally there is a wireless access point, currently very poorly placed, as a 192.168.0.253 address, which provides access to the internal network.
[10:51] <_Tom_> Hey guys, quick Q
[10:51] <_Tom_> What's the ethos on swap partitions/
[10:51] <_Tom_> *?
[10:51] <antonio__> #list channels
[10:51] <_Tom_> How big should it be?
[10:51] <antonio__> #!ist channels
[10:51] <antonio__> !ist channels
[10:51] <_Tom_> I have 1024MB of system memory.
[10:52] <EdgEy> _Tom_, 1gb should be enough
[10:52] <antonio__> !list channels
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ist channels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list channels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <feryana> winds_of_change is a tar.gz How can I install that with Dapper?
[10:52] <winds_of_change> feryana no is not but automatic the file compression detect the rar ... unless havepassword thefile ... but it is easy to useit the command line after install ... just type  unrar x "file_1.rar"
[10:52] <_Tom_> Ok thanks :)
[10:52] <cafuego_> _Tom_: Up to around 1 GB *or* amountof ram + around 256Mb if you want to do hibernation (laptop)
[10:52] <] {urgan> unop, so essentially I have a Green Network, containing all my servers and workstations, and a red network which is only used by the ADSL router and the ipcop firewall.
[10:52] <feryana> winds_of_change I've download a tar.gz.  How can I install that with Dapper?
[10:53] <_Tom_> cafuego_: No, no hibernation :)
[10:53] <unop> ] {urgan,  whoa, you've got many layers of indirection there , it's probably working against you -- do the DNS and routing servers (linux) run in VMWare too?
[10:53] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, i have not this funktion
[10:53] <winds_of_change> feryana uncompress the software and run the  sudo ./Makefile
[10:53] <Math^> hello, I want to try the new Ubuntu: Feisty Fawn, but does it matter when I install the CD that I donwloaded a few months ago? Or is it better to download a new CD again...??
[10:53] <cafuego_> _Tom_: a gb will be fine then
[10:53] <mytruehero> EdgEy: I put "/dev/sdb1       /media/320_internal     ntfs    rw,user,auto" in my fstab, then did "sudo mount -a", but I'm getting the same error message when I try to access the folder
[10:53] <] {urgan> unop, I want to put the wireless into the red network and then use my VPN to get inside my network, meaning that wardrivers can only get out to internet and not in to internal network.
[10:53] <_Tom_> cafuego_: Any difference on having the swap parition at the beginning or the end of the drive?
[10:53] <feryana> thanks :)
[10:53] <winds_of_change> feryana you need to make this file execuatble 1
[10:53] <unop> winds_of_change,  eh, a Makefile should be run by make -- maybe you mean ./configure instead ?
[10:54] <winds_of_change> np you are wellcome :)
[10:54] <cafuego_> _Tom_: nominally yes, slightly faster at one of those locations. But I can't remember which.
[10:54] <winds_of_change> unop no is one script that cames whith winrar linux command line ... to install
[10:54] <andatche> why does ubuntu have so many broken packages in the repo?
[10:54] <_Tom_> cafuego_: Hehe, ok. I'll go find a google link.
[10:54] <mytruehero> unop: My computer doesn't like that command, for some reason
[10:54] <Math^> hello, I want to try the new Ubuntu: Feisty Fawn, but does it matter when I install the CD that I donwloaded a few months ago? Or is it better to download a new CD again...??
[10:54] <andatche> and they never seem to be fixed
[10:54] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: go to a command prompt... choose "Applications" then "Accessories" then "Terminal"
[10:55] <bronze> anyone know why irssi doesn't work?
[10:55] <EdgEy> Math^, is the cd 6.10
[10:55] <andatche> ndisrwapper-source has been broken since the release of edgy and no one has bothered to fix it
[10:55] <] {urgan> unop, The system should work fine, and as I said everything works fine for windows clients.  I know it's complicated, but I've seen managed more complicated networks before
[10:55] <unop> winds_of_change, i'm quite sure you want to use make there not ./Makefile
[10:55] <vladuz976> when i startx i just get a blank screen. i see the nvidia logo after that just turns black. what could be the problem? where can i look for error logs?
[10:55] <Math^> EdgEy: the CD is version 7.04
[10:55] <unop> mytruehero,  any errors?
[10:55] <EdgEy> Math^, i think downloading the new cd would be better, it's not big
[10:55] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, problem is that in accesories system is not Terminal
[10:56] <winds_of_change> unop yes but i'm not talking about the software source the rar don`t have source release i think ...
[10:56] <ovidijusnorvilas> hmm...........
[10:56] <mytruehero> unop: gksudo: unrecognized option `--no-desktop'
[10:56] <Math^> EdgEy: ok, I thougt maybe it will download the new updates automatacly
[10:56] <unop> ] {urgan,  i'm not so familiar with the colours with ipcop .. what i want to know is whether you run the router and DNS server in VMWare
[10:56] <EdgEy> Math^,  possibly but it may not update correctly
[10:56] <Math^> hmmk
[10:56] <Math^> :)
[10:56] <unop> winds_of_change,  a makefile does not have to be just for source code .. it could exist for binary installs too
[10:57] <ricardo_> hola
[10:57] <gaten> im having problems w/ my menu bar. It's all being slowly squished over to the right side. the "Applications", "Places" and "System" menues are squished next to the clock and I can't move them. can anyone tell me how to get them back on the left side?
[10:57] <] {urgan> unop, er, yeh pretty much, the DNS, DHCP and routing is all done by the vmware ipcop system
[10:57] <ovidijusnorvilas> then how update ubuntu?
[10:57] <feryana> winds_of_change , I always have problems with tar.gz
[10:57] <ricardo_> alguien habla espaol
[10:57] <winds_of_change> unop that it :) that the file that came to install :)
[10:57] <unop> winds_of_change,  IIRC, if you want rar support -- file-roller and xarchiver support it if you have the rar and unrar packages installed
[10:57] <feryana> winds_of_change , I uncompressed it to a folder and I'm in the console in that folder, but it saids "command not found"
[10:57] <mytruehero> When I do "df", it shows that the drive is mounted, and from the "used" and "available" columns I can tell that it's the right drive
[10:57] <robbie_crash> I've got a weird Azureus problem and the guys in Azureus help said try here instead of in there, it loads up, everything goes green, connects to peers, but won't download for longer than about 5 minutes. I'm using Edgy, GIJ for java (sun causes Azureus to crash right after launch), and port 49126 which is forwarded on my router and added to my iptables as usauble
[10:58] <robbie_crash> *useable
[10:58] <] {urgan> unop, I did wonder if it might be the vmware network driver, a definate possiblity, but then I'd assume it would affect all network traffic, not just network traffic coming from linux machines
[10:58] <Pie-rate> what is the point of the bot? in my opinion, its stupid. it spams the channel with quite often useless information. if everyone knew how to use it responsibly it might be ok, but no one actually does.
[10:58] <unop> ] {urgan,  see, that could be a problem -- the vmware layer is probably working against you -- is vmware running in windows?
[10:58] <Math^> so EdgEy: is there some way to install 7.04 from usb-stick?
[10:58] <ricardo_> HOLA
[10:58] <EdgEy> Math^,  no clue
[10:58] <bimberi> gaten: you might have to right-click->unlock some of the other items in order to move it
[10:58] <mytruehero> unop: Do I have the right command in my fstab?
[10:59] <Math^> anybody know how to install ubuntu from an usb-stick?
[10:59] <] {urgan> unop, no, I try to avoid running windows where possible.  All machines are running on linux as a base system
[10:59] <winds_of_change> unop rar gui that good to :)
[10:59] <unop> ] {urgan,  i think it's an arp issue with the VMWare network interfaces .. perhaps they arent responding to arp requests on time
[10:59] <bimberi> !install | Math^
[10:59] <ubotu> Math^: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:59] <gaten> bimberi:  ok ty
[10:59] <crimson> hEY
[10:59] <crimson> oops caps lock
[11:00] <_Tom_> I guess so long as it's bootable on your system, Math^, you could install Ubuntu from a usb stick.
[11:00] <unop> mytruehero,  errm, try this instead -- sudo sh -c "nautilus --no-desktop --browser /media/mountpoint"
[11:00] <unop> mytruehero, well, run this command and well determine what to do in /etc/fstab next
[11:00] <feryana> winds_of_change is sudo ./Makefile ? it doesn't work
[11:00] <winds_of_change> feryana open your command line go to whereyou extract the rar and just  chmod +x Makefile  and then sudo ./Makefile
[11:01] <feryana> ok
[11:01] <Pie-rate> has the azureus notification area icon been fixed on edgy or do i still need to find a different repository for it?
[11:01] <mytruehero> unop: That opened it up, though it gave the warning "libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Volume monitoring will not work." But, it did open the drive.
[11:01] <unop> winds_of_change,  errm, i think you should read the install instructions in INSTALL or README first -- Makefiles are generally not self-executing scripts and require make to run them
[11:01] <robbie_crash> Pie-rate: azureus doesn't show in my tray on edgy
[11:01] <] {urgan> unop, well the ipv6 issue seems to have fixed it at the moment, we'l see how it works over next day or two.  It hasn't really been a problem for me, as I'm happy to ping the server if something isn't working, but my wifes windows installation broke, and I couldn;t find the windows discs, so I installed ubuntu 6.10 on her laptop, and she wont do that, so I'm under instructions to fix it
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 8: install:: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 9: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 10: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 11: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 13: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <unop> mytruehero,  and you see all your contents?
[11:02] <unop> winds_of_change,  see ^^
[11:02] <winds_of_change> unop works for me if you got some bether idea just take the user and say it :) i'm just try to help
[11:02] <mytruehero> unop: yes
[11:02] <unop> !worksforme | winds_of_change
[11:02] <ubotu> winds_of_change: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:02] <LjL> !paste > feryana    (feryana, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:02] <Pie-rate> robbie_crash: ok, ty. i'll find the one that works again then
[11:02] <feryana> Ok Sry
[11:02] <] {urgan> unop, anyway you've been a great help, if I still have problems, I'll read up on arp, as I understnad what it is, but know nothing about how its implemented or possible issues with it
[11:02] <unop> feryana,  do you have a INSTALL or README file in that directory?
[11:03] <feryana> i do
[11:03] <feryana> readme
[11:03] <unop> feryana,  check it out, it probably has instructions on how to install
[11:03] <feryana> on;ly explains
[11:03] <Pie-rate> robbie_crash: http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/azureus-edgy/ contains the working ones
[11:03] <feryana> what is rar
[11:03] <robbie_crash> thanks
[11:03] <] {urgan> feryana, an archive format, like zip or tar.
[11:03] <unop> ] {urgan,  you're welcome :)
[11:03] <Math^> ive got some problem, I cant read my mail in thunderbird
[11:04] <Math^> it crashes
[11:04] <unop> feryana,  ok, run this command - make
[11:04] <Math^> when clicking on a mail
[11:04] <VividHazE> hey can anyone help me its really simple but i'm stupid. I'm trying to change permissions on my scanner so I can use it, its already setup, I found instructions to find out what number to put at the end of this: sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/001/002 but it was for Ubuntu not Kubuntu which I have and I can't figure it out
[11:04] <winds_of_change> ubotu yes but ... if i'm using ubuntu and works fine in ubuntu ... what the problem?! lol :)
[11:04] <feryana> ok
[11:04] <VividHazE> is there a command I can put in to find out, or someone tell me the menu in kubuntu to go to?
[11:04] <feryana> I did that
[11:04] <_Tom_> If I format my / as ReiserFS .. Is there a stable windows driver to access the files stored?
[11:04] <feryana> and now?
[11:04] <unop> feryana,  and what's happening?
[11:04] <Math^> the message thunderbird gave: Segment fault (core dumped)
[11:05] <apecat> winds_of_change: ubotu is a bot ;)
[11:05] <Math^> I only can read my email again with sudo
[11:05] <unop> feryana,  or if it finished, what happened?
[11:05] <winds_of_change> lollllll i mean unop :)
[11:05] <moreati> _Tom_: no, there is a program called e2explore for ext2/3
[11:05] <andre> !nvidia9
[11:05] <feryana> unop
[11:05] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:05] <feryana> it just gave me commands
[11:05] <feryana> gonna paste
[11:05] <VividHazE> anyone help me?
[11:06] <cafuego_> _Tom_: If you can, ditch reiserfs and go for ext3.
[11:06] <apecat> winds_of_change: heh, k. but the problem is that providing support for stuff that isn't official packages is harder
[11:06] <robbie_crash> VividHazE: try joining #kubuntu
[11:06] <VividHazE> lol ok thanks
[11:06] <feryana> unop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5317/
[11:06] <robbie_crash> no problem
[11:07] <unop> winds_of_change,  that was me who got the bot to tell you that -- if something works for you, it does not mean it works for someone else .. your experiences, system setup, etc are probably not what a new user has -- and are you going to support the user over the lifetime of the configuration you suggest?
[11:07] <feryana> I've got that
[11:07] <winds_of_change> apecat ok so other time i send to rar channel :) o0 0o
[11:07] <_Tom_> cafuego_: I was under the impression ReiserFS was better than ext3?
[11:07] <robbie_crash> I've got a weird Azureus problem and the guys in Azureus help said try here instead of in there, it loads up, everything goes green, connects to peers, but won't download for longer than about 5 minutes. I'm using Edgy, GIJ for java (sun causes Azureus to crash right after launch), and port 49126 which is forwarded on my router and added to my iptables as usauble
[11:07] <unop> feryana,  ok, thats installed it now -- type this out -- which rar; which unrar
[11:08] <cafuego_> _Tom_: It's better than a garbage disposal, but only marginally.
[11:08] <_Tom_> I know you can access ext2 from Windows, and ext3 (albeit from as ext2, so no journaling)
[11:08] <LjL> _Tom_: if it was all the way better, everyone would be using it instead of ext3, no? ;-) they both have advantages and disadvantages. ext3 is possibly more robust
[11:08] <feryana> /usr/local/bin/rar
[11:08] <feryana> /usr/local/bin/unrar
[11:08] <_Tom_> Righty, ok.
[11:08] <_Tom_> I'll stick with what I know
[11:08] <feryana> Unop so know if I double click a rar
[11:08] <feryana> it opens?
[11:08] <quaal> is there any windows app that will allow me to read and/or write to a linux ext3 partition ?
[11:08] <LjL> !ext3 > quaal    (quaal, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:08] <unop> winds_of_change,  feryana was supposed to run make not ./Makefile -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5317/
[11:08] <cafuego_> _Tom_: The main problem with reiser is that the recovery tools are either extremely immature or non-existent.
[11:09] <unop> feryana,  errm, try it out
[11:09] <robbie_crash> quaal: google ext windows
[11:09] <quaal> oh
[11:09] <quaal> awesome thanks LjL
[11:09] <robbie_crash> it's the first link
[11:09] <feryana> Unop I Open the file and appears empty
[11:09] <winds_of_change> unop look just download the software ... and check the Makefile code
[11:09] <cafuego_> quaal: Yes, there is a think called 'ifs driver' or somesuch that assigns drive letters to ext2/ext3 partitions.
[11:09] <LjL> quaal: take robbie's advice too, both "ext3 windows" and "ext2 windows", there are some other possibilities too (including a program that doesn't install itself as a filesystem driver)
[11:10] <quaal> awesome
[11:10] <quaal> thanks guys
[11:10] <andre> !nvidia9
[11:10] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:10] <LjL> cafuego_: "IFS driver" is the general term for a "filesystem handler" under Windows
[11:10] <feryana> Unop I can open it but I seems that the files are empty
[11:10] <LjL> Installable File System, i think the acronym is
[11:10] <_Tom_> cafuego_: I see, well, I'm going to stick to ext3.
[11:10] <cafuego_> LjL: Aha! You're an MCSE! ;-)
[11:10] <unop> feryana,  ok, these utils you downloaded seem to be command line utilities -- try unraring the file from the command line -- unrar /path/to/file.rar
[11:10] <_Tom_> I know of quite a few apps that can utilise ext2/3 from Windows.
[11:10] <LjL> cafuego_: nah, i just use wikipedia too often :P
[11:10] <_Tom_> As I'm dual-booting, it's quite handy.
[11:10] <feryana> ok
[11:11] <cafuego_> www.fs-driver.org is the url, quaal/_Tom_
[11:11] <robbie_crash> ext2 ifs has always worked well for me,
[11:11] <unop> winds_of_change,  i'm not going to argue more -- ./Makefile is not a bash script, its a makefile  that make is supposed to run, and in this case, that was just what was needed
[11:11] <andre> hey guys how do I install the nvidia drivers from the repo mentioned in !nvidia9's restricted?
[11:11] <LjL> !software > andre    (andre, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:12] <feryana> empty again aww
[11:12] <LjL> andre: just add the line to your /etc/apt/sources.list, do an apt-get update, and an apt-get upgrade
[11:12] <feryana> I hate rars
[11:12] <feryana> I always did
[11:12] <Lucifel> Is there a reliable means of mounting NTFS volumes as writable?
[11:12] <feryana> xD
[11:12] <root__> hi
[11:12] <feryana> with all files
[11:12] <feryana> well... I must go
[11:12] <cafuego_> Lucifel: Use windows+samba
[11:12] <feryana> I'll check later
[11:12] <robbie_crash> Lucifel: No.
[11:12] <feryana> thanks a lot
[11:12] <bur[n] er> !ntfs-3g | Lucifel
[11:12] <ubotu> Lucifel: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:12] <winds_of_change> unop so why do you think i say to make the file executable ...?! ok whatever we arehereall for the same ubuntu :)
[11:12] <unop> feryana,  are you sure that was a .rar file .. is it an empty file (check filesize) ..
[11:12] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: ntfs-3g is hardly reliable
[11:12] <admin___> does cron run the cron.daily or does it not run because anacron is there
[11:12] <feryana> unop 64MB
[11:13] <admin___> im looking at the command ands it says only RUN if anacron permission is not executable..
[11:13] <andre> LjL after that I do what?  apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[11:13] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: a week or two ago someone used to to completely trash his windows install by just mounting it.
[11:13] <LjL> andre: if you didn't have a version of it installed before, yes
[11:13] <unop> winds_of_change,  heh, you seriously have no clue about makefiles, do you?
[11:13] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: live on channel, even
[11:13] <bur[n] er> cafuego_: has worked here for about 3 weeks
[11:13] <lineman60> anyone here can help me with an intermintn wireless connection, i am running NDIS on UBuntu 64,
[11:13] <andre> LjL great :)
[11:13] <LjL> winds_of_change: what's the link to this amazing makefile that executes from bash?
[11:13] <unop> feryana,  well, did unrar give you any output?
[11:14] <lineman60> what wireless util are you useing?
[11:14] <_Tom_> I'm still none the wiser (after googling) as to whether it's better to have my swap partition in the middle, or at the end of the disk.
[11:14] <Lucifel> ahh, 3g is the way to go eh
[11:14] <Lucifel> Thank you
[11:14] <_Tom_> With regards to speed.
[11:14] <cafuego_> _Tom_: I'd plonk it at the end
[11:14] <admin___> HEllo all how can i tell if anacron is listening i did a ps -ef
[11:14] <admin___> HEllo all how can i tell if anacron is listening i did a ps -ef
[11:14] <_Tom_> Just what I was hoping you'd say :)
[11:14] <admin___> erk
[11:14] <admin___> sorry
[11:14] <cafuego_> _Tom_: prevents boot issues on broken bioses
[11:14] <admin___> ps -ef | grep anacron and nothing appears.
[11:14] <dsquare> hi trying to configure dual desktops and my display has gone a bit funny. im sure i followed the big desktop instructions perfectly. first can someone just tell me the command to edit xorg.conf?
[11:14] <bur[n] er> Lucifel: i'd say ext3 with fs-driver for windows is the way to go..
[11:14] <dsquare> !ubot xorg.conf
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <LjL> _Tom_: uhm, not at the end i say (sorry cafuego), because normally the end of the drive is slower (well, actually the *beginning* is slower, but it usually gets mapped to the end, logically)
[11:15] <luke_> Hi everyone. I am VERY new to Linux and Ubuntu. After upgrading to the kernel version 11 my wireless card does not work. It works fine under kernel version 10. I have been trying to use a solution from the forum (entering a lot of commands in the terminal), it works - but only until reboot. Can anyone help me?
[11:15] <winds_of_change> LjL is just one file that cames whith winrar ro linux that after put it in executable mode install the winrar and works fine nathing special
[11:15] <LjL> _Tom_: center is probably a nice position, since on average head movements will be minimized. i have it at the beginning, though
[11:15] <unop> LjL,  i think that makefile is in here (i'm checking it out too) - http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.7.b1.tar.gz
[11:15] <LjL> winds_of_change: winrar? on linux?
[11:15] <LjL> is there a winrar for linux?
[11:15] <admin___> anyone?
[11:15] <admin___> LjL: there is a command line utility for rar
[11:15] <admin___> that i use all the time
[11:15] <Hattori> i get permission denied while doing: echo '#!/bin/sh' >> /etc/rc.local
[11:15] <Hattori> any clue?
[11:15] <LjL> that's quite different
[11:16] <unop> LjL,  no, its the same command line utils from the rar and unrar ubuntu packages
[11:16] <winds_of_change> the rar to linux is from winrar don`t? o0 0o
[11:16] <bur[n] er> admin___: ps ax |grep cron
[11:16] <jpp> Hello -- does anyone have a minute to help me try to figure out an issue I'm having with the 9746 nVidia driver?  I'm very new to Linux, but I've been reading everything I can find on this driver and I've got nothing...
[11:16] <cafuego_> yes, that's 'unrar-nonfree', now 'unrar'.
[11:16] <HymnToLife> LjL, no, but a tool to manage RAR archives created by the developpers of winrar
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> please someone help me getting rid of this error while i try to burn dvd data with nautilus burn " Some files don't have a suitable name for a Windows-compatible CD.Do you want to continue with Windows compatibility disabled?
[11:16] <LjL> Hattori: yes, i have a clue -- but why in the world are you doing that command?
[11:16] <dsquare> what is the location of xorg.conf please?
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> how do i enable it ?
[11:16] <HymnToLife> dsquare, /etc/X11
[11:16] <winds_of_change> ok forget ... gona try to save my dvd this is giving me problems stranges lol
[11:16] <mytruehero> unop: Any clues as to how I messed up my fstab? ;)
[11:16] <jpp> I have my nvidia-bug-report log if that helps?
[11:16] <dsquare> ty HymnToLife :)
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> i
[11:16] <Hattori> LjL: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:LEKW5afa_rgJ:www.astars.org/modules/articles/article.php%3Fid%3D28+pureftpd+add+user&hl=it&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=it
[11:16] <Mandrill> can anyone reccommend a way to automate basic system operations (restart, login, update etc)? I want my other monitor back on my main machine. more complex stuff I can do remotely.
[11:16] <admin___> bur[n] er: does cron.daily not run if anacron is there and is executable by crontab.. i see the || so im guessing anacron takes care of everything..
[11:17] <Lucifel> bur[n] er, the problem is that I have several large NTFS volumes that are nigh on full and Windows refuses to play nicely on this box
[11:17] <bur[n] er> jpp: using the beta drivers from a .deb?
[11:17] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia  Some files don't have a suitable name for a Windows-compatible CD.Do you want to continue with Windows compatibility disabled?
[11:17] <Hattori> LjL: for pureftpd installation
[11:17] <LjL> winds_of_change, if  http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.7.b1.tar.gz is the archive you have in mind, then that makefile is definitely *NOT* meeant to be executed. it's a normal makefile. you just run "make".
[11:17] <luke_> Can anyone please help me with my wireless card under kernel 11?
[11:17] <robbie_crash> Thug-N-Me: you need to rename the files, or burn with Windows compatability disabled.
[11:17] <unop> mytruehero,  can you !pastebin your /etc/fstab file please
[11:17] <bur[n] er> Lucifel: i'd find another drive to move to temporarily so you can format ext3 and move it back if it was data I cared about instead of using ntfs-3g
[11:17] <jpp> burner:  installed the .run file from nvidia's website -- also attempted to use envy and automatix 2 -- both on fresh installs.
[11:17] <Mandrill> !automate | mandrill
[11:18] <LjL> Hattori, i see, but that's totally unnecessary under Ubuntu, since /etc/rc.local *already* exists, and you certainly don't want to add #!/bin/(sh at the *end* of it
[11:18] <Thug-N-Me> robbie_crash i just hit enter and burn it .. it will crash and i the dvd blank its lost :(
[11:18] <unop> LjL,  the magic makefile :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5320/
[11:18] <mytruehero> unop: I've heard of pastebins before, but, is there a fast way to do it from the terminal?
[11:18] <bur[n] er> jpp: try the .deb from the wiki page on beryl
[11:18] <unop> !pastebin
[11:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:18] <Hattori> LjL: ok. so how should i start the pureftpd then?
[11:18] <Thug-N-Me> robbie_crash already lost 3 dvds .. just because of that ...
[11:18] <Lucifel> bur[n] er, I've been trying to figure a way to do that but I can't come up with the space and I'm on a time crunch
[11:18] <eternaljoy> if I intstall xbuntu, can I ipgrade it to Ubuntu?
[11:18] <britt> yes
[11:18] <unop> mytruehero,  cat /etc/fstab -- select and paste ...
[11:18] <winds_of_change> LjL well i think so ...
[11:18] <Lucifel> I may just put some other quickfix together to get work done until i can shuffle the data over to etx3
[11:18] <britt> eternaljoy: yes you can
[11:19] <winds_of_change> LjL ok
[11:19] <LjL> Hattori: don't know, maybe - personally i wouldn't install an FTP server from anywhere that's not an Ubuntu repository, anyway
[11:19] <bur[n] er> Lucifel: your call man... but if you lose everything using ntfs-3g, dont' say you weren't warned... it works here, but that's not to say it will there
[11:19] <cafuego_> Hattori: Just install the package and use its init script or inetd.
[11:19] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes (but that would be a downgrade ;-) ) - install ubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <LjL> winds_of_change: well you're wrong. it clearly doesn't contain a shell script
[11:19] <mytruehero> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5321/
[11:19] <eternaljoy> britt: because I have the xbuntu on DVD, so saves me downloading the whole ubuntu
[11:19] <britt> eternaljoy: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[11:19] <eternaljoy> bimberi: so once I install xubutnu, I install ubuntu-desktop?
[11:19] <eternaljoy> will it then be as the same as ubuntu?
[11:20] <britt> i actually went from ubuntu->kubuntu
[11:20] <_Tom_> Ok, so I've just setup my partitions (/boot, swap and /) .. Should I be applying the boot flag to the /boot partition?
[11:20] <Lucifel> bur[n] er, I hear ya, I certainly don't want this sort of fix for the long term
[11:20] <britt> and then ubuntu->xubuntu on my mythtv box
[11:20] <eternaljoy> britt: is Kubuntu better than ubuntu?>
[11:20] <Lucifel> Thank you for your help
[11:20] <cafuego_> _Tom_: Nah, Linux doesn't care about boot flags.
[11:20] <_Tom_> Bonza
[11:20] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes, although it will still have the xubuntu-desktop packages there
[11:20] <britt> eternaljoy: personal preference
[11:20] <_Tom_> Thanks :)
[11:20] <cafuego_> _Tom_: it will be booted from the MBR
[11:20] <eternaljoy> bimberi: how can I get rid of the xubuntu-desktop packages?
[11:21] <Thug-N-Me> still no one knows how to enable Windows compatibility for nautilus burn
[11:21] <britt> eternaljoy: 'sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop'
[11:21] <luke_> Does anyone have time to help me, please? I can not get my wireless car to work under kernel 11
[11:21] <LjL> eternaljoy: sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop, if you're under Edgy
[11:21] <bimberi> eternaljoy: look, no need for me to reply :) (see britt)
[11:22] <jpp> burner:  you referring to the instructions here:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia   ?
[11:22] <eternaljoy> LjL: cheers
[11:22] <eternaljoy> LjL: is Xbuntu edgy?
[11:22] <beoba> ISDN
[11:22] <LjL> eternaljoy: ?
[11:22] <o_0> hello
[11:22] <britt> eternaljoy: they are all edgy
[11:22] <bur[n] er> jpp: do they have a link to the .deb of the nvidia beta drivers by lupine?
[11:22] <bur[n] er> jpp: if so, yes ;)
 eternaljoy: sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop, if you're under Edgy <-- "IF" im under Edgy?  isnt Xbuntu Edgy?
[11:23] <britt> the xubuntu, ubuntu, and kubuntu are subsets of edgy
[11:23] <LjL> eternaljoy: Xubuntu is the Ubuntu flavor that comes with Xfce instead of GNOME. "Edgy" is the latest release of Ubuntu (and Xubuntu and Kubuntu etc).
[11:23] <LjL> !edgy > eternaljoy    (eternaljoy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:23] <bimberi> eternaljoy: if your DVD has 6.10 on it, that's Edgy
[11:23] <o_0> i am having a hell of a time getting my wifi up i am using edgy 64-bit, and have followed a few different guides to no avail, my nic is a bcm43xx
[11:23] <tritium_> britt: not exactly
[11:23] <o_0> bcm4313 to be exact
[11:23] <dammitman> how do i install drivers in ubuntu? can anyone help me plz?
[11:23] <LjL> eternaljoy: you can have Xubuntu Dapper and Xubuntu Breezy etc.
[11:23] <stylee> hello, can I run programs designed for windows on ubuntu?
[11:23] <eternaljoy> bimberi: the DVD says 6.10 Xbuntu
[11:23] <LjL> !wine > stylee    (stylee, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:23] <unop> mytruehero,  errm, do you run 64bit ubuntu?
[11:23] <LjL> !virtualizers > stylee    (stylee, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:24] <bimberi> eternaljoy: there you are then. you have Edgy :)
[11:24] <winds_of_change> LjL look if you gotsome bether idea who to do it ok ... but ... works here the way i say ,,,
[11:24] <eternaljoy> LjL: my DVD says 6.10 Xbuntu!  can I install that and then install ubuntu-desktop.  And will that be the latest stable version?
[11:24] <eternaljoy> bimberi: is having Edgy good or bad?
[11:24] <LjL> winds_of_change: the "better idea" is *typing the command  make *, as with every Makefile on earth. you surely know what a Makefile is?
[11:25] <winds_of_change> the persons just ask and i just say like i ussually do it here is asking tome so i aswnserlike i can help the way i can help
[11:25] <mytruehero> unop: Heh, I don't think so
[11:25] <unop> mytruehero,  here's the correction .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5324/  .. make sure you use your UID and GID numbers here (they can be retrived by using the id command)
[11:25] <winds_of_change> that why i say to the man or woman
[11:25] <jpp> Burner:  :)  yes indeed, I want to say that was the first or second thing I tried, but I can give it another run -- I've had the exact same problem each time, and looking at my nvidia error log, it appears to be an issue with ACPI or APIC -- but I just am not familiar enough with the log to pinpoint what's up.
[11:25] <winds_of_change> if you think you can help her bether then me just ok take the user
[11:25] <winds_of_change> and he take the user
[11:25] <bimberi> eternaljoy: it's that latest version. 'good or bad' depends on your experience with it I guess.  I'm happy with it myself
[11:25] <winds_of_change> and i shut up
[11:25] <unop> mytruehero, errm, why dont you get this ntfs-3g then
[11:25] <winds_of_change> but now please  ... gibe me a break
[11:25] <unop> !ntfs-3g | mytruehero
[11:25] <ubotu> mytruehero: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:25] <stylee> Thanke you :)
[11:25] <LostWireless> Does anyone have experience with loosing their wireless card after upgrading Ubuntu?
[11:25] <ShadoWindNinj4> I'm trying to get a webserver going here. I have two twenty scsi disks to play with. I've never actually used that type of hard drive before. . . Anyway. I was trying to go for a secure setup and which partitions would be benificial to put on which disk out of : /, /root, /tmp, swap, /boot, /var, /usr, /home. Am I missing any? What's this /bind I've been hearing about.?
[11:25] <eternaljoy> bimberi: ok! I thought Edgy was an beta version
[11:25] <ShadoWindNinj4> hello 8 )
[11:26] <LjL> winds_of_change: well, no advice is better than ill advice. you adviced to run Makefile as if it were a shell script, and *using sudo*. that's terribly dangerous. it's totally, absolutely dangerous. perhaps with that specific Makefile you won't do any damage, but you will in general.
[11:26] <tritium_> LostWireless: yeah, but then I found it.  I had placed it in a drawer.
[11:26] <eternaljoy> bimberi: so installing the Xbuntu 6.10 and then installing gnome-desktop, would be the same as downliading and installing 6.10 Ubuntu?
[11:26] <bimberi> eternaljoy: it's the latest stable version.  The current working version (in apha) is Feisty (7.04)
[11:26] <mytruehero> unop: that works beautifully. thanks so much for the help!
[11:27] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: no... installing "ubuntu-desktop" would be the same
[11:27] <mega_fauna> Hi, can someone please help me with a boot problem?
[11:27] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes, although you will still have the xubuntu-desktop packages (as mentioned) also the package is 'ubuntu-desktop'
[11:27] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: I meant to say :) so installing the Xbuntu 6.10 and then installing ubuntu-desktop, would be the same as downliading and installing 6.10 Ubuntu?
[11:27] <dammitman> can anyone help me install a wireless adapter driver, need help.
[11:27] <unop> mytruehero,  you can install the ntfs-3g thing to get write access to ntfs -- :) i thought you had 64bit linux before and didnt suggest it earlier, i would have had i known you run 32bit
[11:28] <LjL> eternaljoy: no, because you'll have the Xubuntu packages installed in addition to the Ubuntu packages, which plain Ubuntu doesn't have.
[11:28] <eternaljoy> bimberi: yes but when I remove the xubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes
[11:28] <eternaljoy> LjL: but after installing ubuntu-desktop, i will remove the xubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <LjL> eternaljoy: i hardly think that removing xubuntu-desktop will suffice
[11:28] <eternaljoy> bimberi: ok cheers
[11:28] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: it won't remove everything that xfce has... you woul dhave to go through and remove thunar, xfdesktop, xf*
[11:28] <winds_of_change> LjL ok ...
[11:28] <eternaljoy> LjL: so what shall I do?
[11:28] <bimberi> LjL: autoremove ?
[11:29] <bur[n] er> autoremove won't do it either...
[11:29] <eternaljoy> LjL: doesnt sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop  remove everything?
[11:29] <bur[n] er> nope
[11:29] <bimberi> bur[n] er: ah
[11:29] <LjL> bimberi: right, but i'm not sure that with the "default" metapackage (xubuntu-desktop in this case), autoremove will do the job
[11:29] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: why not?
[11:29] <unop> winds_of_change,  its not just that -- when i asked you whether you were sure about "sudo ./Makefile" you said it "works for me" .. but it couldnt have and you continued asserting that you were right .. its better to admit you dont know what the right way to do something is, especially when you suggest a sudo command to some helpless person
[11:29] <britt> ive DONE autoremove
[11:29] <britt> and i have everything ok
[11:29] <bur[n] er> xubuntu-desktop also depends on ubuntu-minimal... you wouldn't want to remove that!  and xubuntu-desktop depends on a kernel... need that still
[11:29] <leftStanding> need help with ov518+ webcam
[11:29] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: will it harm it if the xfce stays on system?
[11:29] <bur[n] er> xubuntu-desktop installs everytying in xfce, but uninstalling it only uninstalls the meta package
[11:30] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: nope
[11:30] <LjL> bimberi: at least, with aptitude it wouldn't - which is because if it did, it would ask you to remove just about your entire system when you remove one package that's depended upon by the -desktop package.
[11:30] <bur[n] er> :)
[11:30] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: because I have the xbuntunu DVD, so im trying to save time downloading ubuntu
[11:30] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: know what I mean?
[11:30] <LjL> bur[n] er: actually, i thought the kernel wasn't depended upon by anything...?
[11:30] <jpp> burner:  is there anything I need to do before trying the deb file -- I don't really understand the whole driver system, so I don't know what to expect having just installed the official package
[11:30] <bimberi> LjL: ah, kk, thanks
[11:31] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: go for it
[11:31] <LjL> bur[n] er: but still, if you install ubuntu-desktop and *then* autoremove xubuntu-desktop (or viceversa, or whatever), ubuntu-minimal should stay installed, since it's depended upon by the other one
[11:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: so after I install ubuntu-desktop, shall I type: "sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop" ?
[11:31] <winds_of_change> unop like i say if you got some bether choice great :)
[11:31] <britt> hey, anybody know how to diable touchpad tapping?
[11:31] <britt> it really sucks
[11:31] <bur[n] er> LjL: in any event, he gets the idea ;)
[11:31] <britt> disable*
[11:31] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: i do? :) hehe
[11:32] <LjL> bimberi: i'm not entirely sure, someone should test that. i'm sure about aptitude, but this new autoremove feature i haven't completely investigated. i can say, anyway that when i tried installing ubuntu-desktop (i have Kubuntu) and then autoremoving it, it didn't quite remove everything that was installed - not sure why
[11:32] <LjL> eternaljoy: if that works... yes.
[11:32] <britt> LjL: i've done it
[11:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: it wont make system unstable?
[11:32] <britt> LjL: only the opposite, i went from ubuntu->xubuntu
[11:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: shouldnt autoremove xubuntu-desktop remove everything associated with it?
[11:32] <unop> winds_of_change,  i dunno how you can laugh this off -- what if the make file had a line in there that was interpreted as a shell command, by sudo .. you could have easily have wrecked the person's install .. i dont think you understand the seriousness of this
[11:33] <eternaljoy> britt: if I use xfce, isnt that as good as gnome?
[11:33] <cafuego_> unop: Honestly, it's pointless.
[11:33] <eternaljoy> britt: why i need gnome or KDE if I have xfce?
[11:33] <unop> cafuego_,  what's pointless?
[11:33] <oyvindaa> anyone got an acer aspire laptop?
[11:33] <britt> eternaljoy: well, xfce is very good for older compuetrs(300Mhz G3 for instance), but its not as flexible as KDE/Gnome
[11:34] <dsquare> if anybody comes in here asking about ATI VIDEO CARDS you gotta tell them MERGED FB is the way to go for dual monitors.
[11:34] <eternaljoy> oyvindaa: are the Acer notebook good?
[11:34] <dsquare> thanks for your help peeps!
[11:34] <eternaljoy> britt: define not as flexible
[11:34] <apecat> oyvindaa: what about it?
[11:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: well no, only the stuff that isn't used by something else -- anyway, yes, but in my experience it didn't do that thoroughly.
[11:34] <winds_of_change> unop rar have danger shell codes?
[11:34] <jrib> dsquare: is that info on the wiki?
[11:34] <andre> LjL:  If I install the nvidia drivers will they run on .11 kernel?
[11:34] <oyvindaa> eternaljoy: sure. i need to know how to remove its dvd drive though, because it's broken. i'd appreciate it if anyone knew how to do it :)
[11:34] <LjL> andre: they're running on mine
[11:34] <eternaljoy> LjL: so If I install xbununtu and then install ubuntu-desktop and remove the xfce, the system wont become unstable will it?
[11:35] <eternaljoy> oyvindaa: Acer may help ;)
[11:35] <LjL> eternaljoy: no it won't
[11:35] <eternaljoy> LjL: ok thats good :)
[11:35] <LjL> eternaljoy: at worst, you'll be left with more packages than you need
[11:35] <darren_derwood> hi is there any one that would be kind as in helping me set up a nes emulator
[11:35] <eternaljoy> LjL: saves me dpownm;oading the whole ubuntu
[11:35] <dsquare> jrib yes it is im going to go comment on it.
[11:35] <unop> winds_of_change,  noo dude, the makefile -- you suggested this - sudo ./Makefile -- what if that had a line in there that was interpreted as a shell command ??
[11:35] <jrib> dsquare: great
[11:35] <LjL> !minimal > eternaljoy    (eternaljoy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:35] <eternaljoy> LjL: I wotn even know those extra packages are there, wil i?
[11:35] <andre> LjL:  I've included the lupine repo in my sources.list, I've updated and upgraded and now I'm going to apt-get install nvidia-glx and it should work fine right?
[11:35] <linuxnewbie756> i am downloading vmware server as a tar.gz, how will i compile it?
[11:35] <unop> eternaljoy,  did you want a pure xfce install? or to totally remove gnome
[11:35] <CageX> foutrelis: you still here??
[11:36] <bruenig> !compile | linuxnewbie756
[11:36] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:36] <Biovore> linuxnewbie756: I think there is a perl script call installer.pl you run..
[11:36] <mega_fauna> Can someone help me with a boot problem please?
[11:36] <shrndegruv> can anyone help me go from fglrx to radeon driver?
[11:36] <bruenig> !anyone | mega_fauna
[11:36] <ubotu> mega_fauna: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:36] <eternaljoy> unop: lol
[11:36] <winds_of_change> unop ok use make is bether ... i usally use copy paste but ok ...
[11:37] <unop> eternaljoy,  errm, did i make a joke? :>
[11:37] <shrndegruv> anyone
[11:37] <shrndegruv> ?
[11:37] <eternaljoy> LjL: what if I want to try KDE. how I install that?
[11:37] <mega_fauna> alright. here goes: Installed ubuntu on a blank drive. Now the computer says that it can't recognize the blank drive
[11:37] <eternaljoy> unop: yeah! youre funny dude :)
[11:37] <shrndegruv> migrating from fglrx to radeon?
[11:37] <mega_fauna> I get grub error 2
[11:37] <LjL> eternaljoy: kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <jonw> how would I add ..http://mirror.ovh.net/ubuntu/pool/ to sources.list ?
[11:37] <bruenig> eternaljoy, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <linuxnewbie756> bruenig, do you know if there is a pre built package somewhere for vmware server?
[11:37] <eternaljoy> LjL: is KDE more featured and stable than gnome?
[11:37] <mega_fauna> I installed ubuntu using the automtic installer
[11:37] <eternaljoy> bruenig: ty :)
[11:37] <LjL> eternaljoy: yes. no. maybe. who knows. try.
[11:37] <mega_fauna> sorry if i was not specific enough
[11:37] <bruenig> linuxnewbie756, I am sure you can find some howto, There was one on the forums I followed a while back that worked
[11:37] <unop> winds_of_change,  thats not really the point -- you have to know what to do and when and if in doubt ask
[11:37] <eternaljoy> LjL: what u use?
[11:38] <LjL> eternaljoy: KDE
[11:38] <eternaljoy> ill trey KDE then :)
[11:38] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: there is a HOWTO for VMware and Ubuntu out there somewhere
[11:38] <jonw> can I add a pool repository infact ?
[11:38] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, i think it has something do do with the master boot record
[11:38] <unop> eternaljoy,  lol , now whose funny :p
[11:38] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: it is good documentation, and works
[11:38] <mega_fauna> The only other thing to add is that in the Dell setup screen (I assume the BIOS) it can recognize the drive 0 but not drive 1
[11:38] <eternaljoy> unop: not as funny as you dude ;)
[11:38] <mega_fauna> the Master boot record.
[11:38] <tritium_> s/whose/who's
[11:38] <unop> eternaljoy,  i use fluxbox, wanna try that too? :))
[11:38] <unop> :p
[11:39] <cafuego_> mega_fauna: the bios and MBR are unrelated. If it seens only 1 where there should be 2 (and they're IDE) - check the jumper settings.
[11:39] <winds_of_change> unop that why me you and the others are here don`t? :)
[11:39] <mega_fauna> how would i alter the master boot record to recognize that the linux formatted drive is related
[11:39] <eternaljoy> LjL: the minimal CD sounds good, but then I have to download so much things!  I rather install xbuntu and then instsall KDE and then remove xfce :)
[11:39] <mega_fauna> the drive IS ide
[11:39] <eternaljoy> unop: :P
[11:39] <linuxnewbie756> i would boot from the disk, use the build in disks manager to format the drive, then install on that drive
[11:39] <linuxnewbie756> probably looking at about 15 minutes
[11:40] <mega_fauna> hmmm
[11:40] <linuxnewbie756> that was for you mega_fauna
[11:40] <mega_fauna> k linuxnewbie756
[11:40] <linuxnewbie756> and mega_fauna, do you have more than one hard drive in?
[11:40] <unop> eternaljoy,  this could help then - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:40] <mega_fauna> there was 2, i removed the first (XP) one
[11:40] <eternaljoy> unop: LOL
[11:40] <mega_fauna> set the second in as a single master
[11:41] <cafuego_> mega_fauna: Are you talking about drives or partitions?
[11:41] <mega_fauna> and formatted it using gpart
[11:41] <shrndegruv> noone can help me migrate from fglrx to radeon?
[11:41] <mega_fauna> drives
[11:41] <cafuego_> mega_fauna: Ah ok.
[11:41] <linuxnewbie756> there is your problem, are you trying to boot with both in?
[11:41] <unop> eternaljoy,  I think you've had too much of the hobbit-weed for one evening :p that so wasnt funny at all :)
[11:41] <bobbyd> hi
[11:41] <mega_fauna> no, only one is in
[11:41] <eternaljoy> unop: rofl ;)
[11:41] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, are you trying to boot with both in?
[11:41] <tritium_> shrndegruv: just change "fglrx" to "ati" (or radeon) in your xorg.conf
[11:41] <mega_fauna> no, 1 drive only
[11:41] <mega_fauna> the linux drive
[11:41] <unop> eternaljoy,  ok, i guess i'm right then heh? :>
[11:41] <shrndegruv> tritium
[11:42] <bobbyd> can anyone recommend a laptop with a core 2 duo CPU and an nvidia gfx chip that would work well with linux?
[11:42] <shrndegruv> i tried that but composite wont work
[11:42] <jay> does anyone here know how to get xmodmap to recognize my Super keys?
[11:42] <mluser> is there a way to 'inject' a package into apt and make it think its really installed?
[11:42] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, the one you tried to install ubuntu on, right?
[11:42] <bobbyd> I'm having difficult finding something good
[11:42] <mega_fauna> yes, the ubuntu one.
[11:42] <eternaljoy> ubotu: cool link
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cool link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <kde_sucks> bobbyd, there are ubuntu specific laptops available
[11:42] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, i would try installing it after formatting within ubuntu off the disk like i suggested
[11:42] <britt> eternaljoy: not as flexible, as in dragging doesnt work in xfce i think, at least on the desktop
[11:42] <eternaljoy> unop: good link
[11:42] <kde_sucks> try doing a google for it
[11:43] <eternaljoy> LjL: seen that link unop gave me?  it shows how to totally remover xfce
[11:43] <dammitman> how do i install drivers in ubuntu? anyone?
[11:43] <eternaljoy> bimberi: seen that link unop gave me?  it shows how to totally remover xfce
[11:43] <jrib> mluser: equivs
[11:43] <linuxnewbie756> so does anyone here actually use vmware server to run windows within ubuntu dapper drake?
[11:43] <unop> !equivs | mluser
[11:43] <ubotu> mluser: equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[11:43] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756: can you explain in more detail?
[11:43] <eternaljoy> unop: that link shows how to totally remove xfce
[11:43] <LjL> eternaljoy: you mean KDE?
[11:43] <Mandrill> can anyone reccommend a way to automate basic system operations (restart, login, update etc)? I want my other monitor back on my main machine. more complex stuff I can do remotely.
[11:43] <tritium> dammitman: you load modules (but they're usually auto-loaded at boot)
[11:43] <eternaljoy> LjL: no! xfce
[11:43] <edgardoweb> hi
[11:43] <cafuego_> bobbyd: I think more c2d systems use intel gfx, a lot of amd based one seem to use nvidia.
[11:43] <LostWireless> Hi
[11:43] <mega_fauna> I previously used the desktop live disc installer
[11:43] <edgardoweb> how are you medders
[11:43] <eternaljoy> LjL: remember my objective is to totally remove xfce and only use KDE
[11:43] <mega_fauna> which program should i use?
[11:43] <dammitman> so how do i load the module?
[11:44] <LjL> eternaljoy: ah yes, i mixed them up. but yeah it just lists packages that are Xfce-specific
[11:44] <tritium> dammitman: for what?
[11:44] <kde_sucks> dammitman, it's modprobe (name of module)
[11:44] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, boot from the ubuntu disk, use the format tool found in system, preferences, disks
[11:44] <LjL> using aptitude to install it is a far better idea, as the site itself says, eternaljoy
[11:44] <eternaljoy> LjL: it says to copy and paste a large command
[11:44] <linuxnewbie756> select the drive, click format.
[11:44] <dammitman> it's a wirelss adapter driver
[11:44] <LjL> (or using Edgy with autoremove... but as i said, i'm not entirely sure autoremove works that well)
[11:44] <linuxnewbie756> then you can install on that drive
[11:44] <LostWireless> Hi - I have a problem. After upgrading to kernel 11, my wireless card does not work. Please can anyone help me?
[11:44] <mluser> unop: thanks
[11:44] <edgardoweb> saludos dammitman
[11:44] <eternaljoy> LjL: yeah! but im talking about totally removing xfce
[11:44] <dammitman> i have the driver but i dunno how to install it
[11:44] <cmt^^> I get like a thousand error when running Jin java chess client
[11:44] <cmt^^> how come?
[11:44] <mega_fauna> i'm talking now with the ubuntu live disk, am now looking for the format tool
[11:44] <tritium> dammitman: what chipset?  Is it supported on linux?
[11:44] <unop> mluser,  you could create a dummy package with equivs -- and do what you wanted incase you were wondering :)
[11:45] <mc44> LjL: autoremove works fine :)
[11:45] <kde_sucks> if it's wirless, check Google to see if it has a linux driver
[11:45] <eternaljoy> LjL: ill use the autoremove command and then paste that command from the website
[11:45] <cmt^^> It can't find the java. bla bla.. what do I need to set my path to for it to work?
[11:45] <linuxnewbie756> if i run windows within ubuntu using vmware server, will everything be really skippy?
[11:45] <eternaljoy> unop: ill use the autoremove command and then paste that command from the website
[11:45] <kde_sucks> if not, you'll need ndiswrapper
[11:45] <dammitman> yes it's supported
[11:45] <pbureau> !madwifi
[11:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:45] <linuxnewbie756> mega_gauna
[11:45] <HymnToLife> cmt^^, because your app is poorly coded ?
[11:45] <bobbyd> cafuego: yup, I can only find a 17" Dell inspiron 9400 with that spec at the moment
[11:45] <eternaljoy> mc44: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:45] <Veganto> Hey guys, I have an Asus nVidia Geforce 7600GS, but when I run nvidia-glx-config enable or nvidia-xconfig, my X crashes whenever I try to start it.
[11:45] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, system, on the top toolbar, administration, disks
[11:45] <LjL> mc44: if you say so... when i installed ubuntu-desktop and then tried to autoremove it, however, i was left under the impression that i still had like 50 gnome-related packages installed
[11:45] <eternaljoy> do Asus make good notebooks?
[11:45] <tritium> dammitman: which chipset?
[11:45] <cafuego_> bobbyd: ugh, both huge *and* a Dell
[11:45] <mluser> unop: thanks.. I'll try that
[11:45] <cmt^^> HymnToLife - not my app, http://jin.sourceforge.net
[11:45] <linuxnewbie756> veganto, do you have the drivers installed?
[11:45] <robbie_crash> Veganto: what exactly happens?
[11:45] <cmt^^> it's the path to java that is messed up I believe
[11:45] <eternaljoy> !asus
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <mega_fauna> looking...
[11:46] <bobbyd> cafuego: I really liked the inspiron 6400 I was borrowing
[11:46] <eternaljoy> bobbyd: Dell notebook?
[11:46] <mc44> LjL: hmm, well I guess it may have left some stuff with gnome deps
[11:46] <LostWireless> Anyone able to help me please with my wireless net card?
[11:46] <bobbyd> eternaljoy: yup, i likes the inspiron 6400, I'd basically be happy with that but with Nvidia graphics
[11:46] <tritium> !wireless
[11:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:46] <HymnToLife> LostWireless, just ask your question
[11:46] <unop> eternaljoy,  yea, it should do it -- also something like this - sudo aptitude purge $(aptitude search "xfce|xubuntu" | cut -c 3-30 | xargs)
[11:46] <Veganto> linuxnewbie756, robbie_crash, I've installed nvidia-glx trough apt-get, but when I run either of those commands and I restart my X, I get an error about X not starting correctly and I have to restore my old xorg.conf trough the command line.
[11:46] <bobbyd> cafuego: ATI graphics :/ not good for linux
[11:46] <tritium> Nice choice, cafuego_ :)
[11:47] <sgibbons> are there people chatting?
[11:47] <robbie_crash> Veganto: what is the error?
[11:47] <sgibbons> sorry, wrong window
[11:47] <linuxnewbie756> ahh
[11:47] <linuxnewbie756> hold on
[11:47] <HymnToLife> sgibbons, no, we're all just sitting in front of our PCs doing nothing
[11:47] <cafuego_> tritium: as far as i can tell, all the hw is supported natively
[11:47] <eternaljoy> unop: u there?
[11:47] <LjL> mc44: in other words - if i do "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ; aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop", i'm back with the exact packages i had originally. but doing "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ; apt-get --purge autoremove ubuntu-desktop" didn't quite seem to have the same effect
[11:47] <HymnToLife> ;)
[11:47] <cafuego_> tritium: plus it comes witha  nice OS for free ;-)
[11:47] <Veganto> robbie_crash: The standard grey box on blue screen X can't start error.
[11:47] <dhorn> is anyone familiar with the i810 driver set?
[11:47] <tritium> cafuego_: including the iSight?
[11:47] <sgibbons> lol, sorry HymnToLife, meant to type that in another window
[11:47] <cmt^^> How do I properly set up the path to java? I can't run any java programs from the command line
[11:47] <linuxnewbie756> veganto, i know what the problem is...
[11:47] <Veganto> linuxnewbie756: You do?
[11:48] <unop> eternaljoy, yea, why did you think i'd gone? :>
[11:48] <LostWireless> After upgrading to kernel 11, my wireless card does not work in Ubuntu. Can anyone help me? Ubuntu identifies it as a wired network card, and hence makes it impossible to use
[11:48] <Veganto> linuxnewbie756: Awesome!
[11:48] <linuxnewbie756> veganto, you have to do something like this, hold on, give me a sec
[11:48] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756: I can't find a program called disks
[11:48] <robbie_crash> but it should say, error here blah blah, what's the issue?
[11:48] <mega_fauna> Does it have another name?
[11:48] <tritium> LostWireless: what do you mean "kernel 11"?
[11:48] <siegie> bobbyd: buy it with intel graphics :)
[11:48] <robbie_crash> like no screen found
[11:48] <robbie_crash> or something
[11:48] <cafuego_> tritium: I expect it works much like the old isight (1394 cam) which worked fine on my linux box.
[11:48] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, go to system, which is on top of the top toolbar, click administration, discs
[11:48] <charles_> hi somehow i do not have any icons in the gnome menus... i created a new user but still no icons under the menus in that user.. any help?
[11:48] <tritium> cafuego_: glad to hear that
[11:49] <linuxnewbie756> vaganto, using dapper or edgy?
[11:49] <cafuego_> tritium: not - i note - on windows
[11:49] <kde_sucks> LostWireless, try editing /etc/iftab
[11:49] <linuxnewbie756> 6.06 or 6.10?
[11:49] <Veganto> robbie_crash: I don't remember what it says exactly, I can recreate the error, but that means logging off of irc.
[11:49] <Veganto> linuxnewbie756: edgy
[11:49] <Slart> linuxnewbie756: discs are not there on edgy.. only dapper I think
[11:49] <tritium> cafuego_: yeah, but that doesn't matter
[11:49] <mc44> LjL: yeah, I guess Ive never used it for a full -desktop meta package... it worked when removing annoying kde deps when I installed random bits though
[11:49] <bobbyd> cafuego: do you dislike the dells just becase of the size/design?
[11:49] <Veganto> linuxnewbie756: Just upgraded from Dapper, where everything worked perfectly for some reason.
[11:49] <linuxnewbie756> slart, oh, i didn't know that
[11:49] <Slart> I found out the hard way =)
[11:49] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756: I have found System - Administrations but no discs....
[11:49] <CrakeHunter> id like to import mbox files into evolution, how do i do that?
[11:50] <linuxnewbie756> well, i am only using dapper, with a geforce 5500 fx
[11:50] <Slart> gparted is perhaps a good alternative?
[11:50] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, turns out, discs isn't there on edgy, are you using edgy?
[11:50] <bobbyd> siegie: but intel graphics don't have hardware transform and lighting, which makes them rubbish for games
[11:50] <Veganto> linuxnewbie756: Yeah, I was using Dapper before too, I had direct rendering and Beryl and such running just fine.
[11:50] <LostWireless> kde_sucks - it does not work... I am very new to Linux, and have tried to read the forums. I have found a workaround (a let of commands in the terminal), but after reboot it does not work again
[11:50] <cafuego_> bobbyd: I don't like huge laptops in general, thy're a pain to travel with. I don't like Dell specifically because they don't sell 'em without windows, apparently did dirty dealings with intel and a batch of business laptops I bought off them years ago were *all* shit.
[11:51] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756: I'm using the Linux Ubuntu Ultimate Edition as dugg by digg. Chekcing for which version, can't remember
[11:51] <orourke> hey, i'm completely new to the whole linux thing and hoping to get some help here...i'm having trouble playing dvd's for starters...my drive is not showing up...any ideas?
[11:51] <linuxnewbie756> i think i remember seeing something that would help you veganto, but i don't remember wehre
[11:51] <cables> cmt^^, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:51] <dhorn> can someone help me with my intel 915 GM?
[11:51] <kde_sucks> LostWireless, how did you install your wireless card?
[11:51] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, never heard of it, probably 6.06 or 6.10
[11:51] <bobbyd> cafuego: ahh, I'm not going to travel with this, and I'd wager all large companies have some dirty business to hide. Also, I think someone got a rebate from Dell for not using windows at all
[11:51] <kde_sucks> during updates, the kernel and restricted modules can be reloaded
[11:51] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756 where do i find that? it's not under help
[11:52] <kde_sucks> might help to reinstall your card entirely
[11:52] <linuxnewbie756> i have no clue
[11:52] <cmt^^> cables - http://pastebin.se/8845
[11:52] <mega_fauna> assume that it's the latest version
[11:52] <LostWireless> kde_sucks: it is a laptop, so it is preinstalled :-)
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> where's the change log for edgy?
[11:52] <kde_sucks> LostWireless, i mean reinstall the drivers for it
[11:52] <cafuego_> bobbyd: yes, but getting a rebate means having to jump through hoops. I'm the customer, I buy what I want, not what a company says I should want.
[11:52] <cables> cmt^^, can't help you with that, sorry
[11:52] <linuxnewbie756> veganto, have you tried sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:53] <Veganto> linuxnewbie756: Yes, the same error appears.
[11:53] <eternaljoy> unop: u there?
[11:53] <eternaljoy> unop: you know that website you gave me?
[11:53] <kitche> Veganto: do you have the .11 kernel installed?
[11:53] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756: it's got to be the latest, would disks be renamed or is there another program to use?
[11:53] <cmt^^> anyone mind looking at http://pastebin.se/8845 and give me a hint
[11:53] <LostWireless> I have not installed any drivers - it just worked fine after installing Ubuntu from the cd... But after upgrading the system with System manager, it does not work
[11:53] <eternaljoy> unop: do i type that command BEFORE or AFTER I install KDE?
[11:53] <Veganto> kitche: 2.6.15-23-386
[11:53] <bobbyd> cafuego: then you'll have to pay a rediculous premium to get a laptop without an OS, or linux installed (that's my opinion based on the empirical evidence I've gathered this-evening)
[11:54] <LostWireless> During boot, I can hit ESC to choose to boot from the old kernel, and then the network card works
[11:54] <eternaljoy> kde_sucks: if you compplain about KDE, write something better then if you can
[11:54] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, i have no clue about edgy, which is probably what you are using, you may could use terminal
[11:54] <eternaljoy> LjL: u busy?
[11:54] <mega_fauna> i can if i'm told what to type
[11:54] <unop> eternaljoy,  preferrably after KDE is installed so you dont leave yourself with a GUI-less system :)
[11:54] <LostWireless> but when ubuntu boots with kernel 11, the network card does not work
[11:54] <linuxnewbie756> anyone know how to format a disc to ext3 within edgy eft from terminal? or a program? off the live disc
[11:54] <eternaljoy> unop: but that command removes firefox etc
[11:54] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756: I used it previously reading stuff off the forums
[11:54] <eternaljoy> unop: wont that remove my firefox?
[11:54] <linuxnewbie756> veganto, what card did you say you have?
[11:55] <charles_> hi if i do sudo on the command line with my password it works fine, if i try through the gui from any admin tool in gnome, it will reject my password.. does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:55] <sgibbons> charles_: it may not want your password, it may want the root password
[11:56] <sgibbons> gnome is like that on fedora at least
[11:56] <charles_> hrm.. i didnt think i set a root pass.. good point though let me check
[11:56] <eternaljoy> unop: so wont that command remove a lot of things that KDE just installed?  and wont it remove firefox etx?
[11:56] <corevette> how do you mount iso's in ubuntu?
[11:56] <linuxnewbie756> hey, vega, what cared did you say you had?
[11:56] <eternaljoy> anyone recommend an Asus Notebook?
[11:56] <racarter> libflash-mozplugin
[11:56] <racarter> does it work?
[11:56] <bulmer> corevette:  mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mnt
[11:57] <eternaljoy> is the Nivida 7300 a good grapgics card for 3d stuff?
[11:57] <eternaljoy> unop: u left me? :(
[11:57] <charles_> yup that was it
[11:58] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756" Gparted seems to be formatting the disc
[11:58] <unop> eternaljoy,  sorry -- errm, is firefox deinstalled as part of a dependency issue or is it stated there in the command?
[11:58] <bobbyd> eternaljoy: the 7300 is a decent card, but far from the best
[11:59] <bobbyd> eternaljoy: what do you want to us it for?
[12:00] <jonw> for the love of god how to I install this please ? http://mir2.ovh.net/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/t/teamspeak-client/teamspeak-client_2.0.32-2_i386.deb on edgy ... teamspeak-client depends on libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1) \ Version of libc6 on system is 2.4-1ubuntu12.3. Thanks
[12:00] <Zaehlas> Greetings, I have an unusual problem, that has stemmed from the recent upgrade, and my xserver crash, and reconfiguration.  But it may take some time to explain the problem.  It has to do with 2 computers, nvidia drivers, and exact xserver refresh rates, if someone can help.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> jonw: you dont unless you get an older version
[12:00] <unop> eternaljoy, firefox probably depends on something in the other xubuntu/xfce packages there and thats why he's included it too -- in anycase, you should revise that command for your needs
[12:00] <charles_> hi all, when i login to gnome, i get "GConf schema installer error, battery_low_percentage cannot be zero"... i cant find anything in google about fixinig this in ubuntu, just if you compile
[12:00] <kitche> jonw: seems odd sicne teamspeak depends on nothing
[12:01] <jonw> is it a feisty package then ?