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| oslo | hi | 12:30 |
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| oslo | is there a probleme with the acx trick on feisty ? | 12:30 |
| mhb | oslo: what trick? | 12:30 |
| oslo | mhb> oslo@desktop:~$ sudo ln -s -f /lib/firmware/`(uname -r)`/acx/1.2.1.34/tiacx111c16 /lib/firmware/`(uname -r)`/acx/default/tiacx111c16 && sudo modprobe acx | 12:31 |
| oslo | & my wlan0 is recognized like an ethernet card it seems | 12:34 |
| mhb | oslo: tbh my acx card doesn't work at all | 12:37 |
| mhb | oslo: although it did with edgy | 12:37 |
| mhb | oslo: I have reported it, they promised a fix but nothing happened | 12:37 |
| oslo | http://fr.pastebin.ca/351121 | 12:38 |
| oslo | so the only thing is to wait ? | 12:39 |
| mhb | ya, same output here | 12:39 |
| oslo | there isn't another working firmwares for us ? | 12:40 |
| mhb | oslo: you can do something | 12:40 |
| mhb | oslo: comment on that bug | 12:40 |
| oslo | mhb> do u have the link ? | 12:41 |
| mhb | bug 81812 | 12:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 81812 in linux-source-2.6.20 "ACX111-based wireless network card doesn't work with Feisty kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81812 | 12:41 |
| mhb | you can confirm it | 12:41 |
| oslo | k thanks | 12:41 |
| mhb | oslo: but if you are able to backport to edgy's udev you can use the older kernel and it will be fine | 12:43 |
| oslo | just right now i don't need wlan | 12:43 |
| ryanakca | is FF past? | 12:47 |
| mhb | ryanakca: yep | 12:47 |
| mhb | ryanakca: someone should delete the info in /topic | 12:48 |
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| ryanakca | anything to add? | 12:48 |
| === ryanakca twiddles while waiting to hit the "OK" button | ||
| ryanakca | guess not | 12:49 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:ryanakca] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | ||
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| oslo | & about samba ? i can reach a samba on dapper but i can reach myself my samba & i can't reach my dapper distro | 12:55 |
| oslo | i'm on feisty | 12:55 |
| oslo | the settings are the same on my dapper & on my feisty | 12:55 |
| oslo | on dapper all works , on feisty i can only see the sharing folder name | 12:56 |
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| === Hobbsee looks for life | ||
| jjesse | nothing goes better then working on kubuntu then a good glass of wine | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | yay, jjesse! | 01:34 |
| === Hobbsee pokes imbrandon | ||
| jjesse | hello Hobbsee | 01:35 |
| oslo | mhb> now acx works for me ;) | 01:37 |
| oslo | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/78513 | 01:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78513 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Current ACX driver will not let USR5410 card function properly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:37 |
| Hobbsee | yay! basket1.0!!! | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: ping? | 01:39 |
| === Hobbsee looks into kdesvn-build | ||
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| jjesse | is universe enabled by default in feisty? | 02:01 |
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| claydoh | no, it wasn't for me | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: think so | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | oh wiat, no | 02:09 |
| === claydoh just enabled it today :) | ||
| === Hobbsee attempts to build konversation using this new whacky build script | ||
| manchicken | cmake? | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | no, kdesvn-build | 02:12 |
| manchicken | Interesting. | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | see http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 02:12 |
| manchicken | You core devs get all the fun. | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: i'm not a core dev :P | 02:14 |
| manchicken | What's going to change with this linspire deal? I don't like it. | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: a core dev of what? | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | dunno. we cant tell them "no you cant base yourself off us" though | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | Running configure... | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | Unable to configure extragear/network! | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | i dont get it - that's all it's telling me... | 02:15 |
| manchicken | No, but we don't have to endorse their business practices... | 02:15 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: it means it is unable to configure extragear/network! how hard is that to get? | 02:16 |
| === nixternal totally runs and hides | ||
| nixternal | hahahah | 02:16 |
| nixternal | ;P | 02:16 |
| manchicken | hehh | 02:16 |
| nixternal | dude, the wrath of Hobbsee is on its way | 02:16 |
| === nixternal searches for the pain killers | ||
| === nixternal peaks to see if it is safe | ||
| ajmitch | nixternal: just keep running | 02:25 |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 02:25 |
| nixternal | no doubt, she is polishing the pointy stick of doom, cussing me under her breath | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | she would never.. | 02:25 |
| nixternal | so you say | 02:26 |
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| manchicken | I think it's more likely that she's cussing konversation's new build process under her breath :P | 02:31 |
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| hellcattrav | ok i tried the #kubuntu forum, but got no response-m could someone help with further instruction on how to set up wireless for kubuntu? I tired re-entering my WEP key as xxxx-xxxx-xx but to no avail- nevermind, someone is helbing me, but if anyone would continue or want to privide any furhter assistance that would be great | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: hehe | 02:42 |
| === Hobbsee attacks nixternal with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Hobbsee | manchicken: just that i havent used the program before | 02:44 |
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| n8k99 | nixternal | 06:31 |
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| nixternal | yo yo | 06:47 |
| Jucato | hi nixternal! | 06:49 |
| nixternal | well hello there | 06:49 |
| Jucato | nixternal: regarding your call for docs, about configuring the desktop, not sure if the one I made would be good enough. it's definitely not complete, and might need a bit of changing depending on how System Settings in feisty will look like | 06:50 |
| n8k99 | thought i'd answer a call for help | 06:52 |
| nixternal | cool | 06:53 |
| n8k99 | where do i start? | 06:53 |
| nixternal | if there is any one section that interests you most, it is yours :) | 06:53 |
| n8k99 | mostly configuring the desktop | 06:53 |
| Jucato | nixternal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu | 06:54 |
| nixternal | OK, there is another guy with configuring the desktop as well, but I don't know his experience. let me talk to him tomorrow and see what he is working on | 06:54 |
| nixternal | damn Jucato, you did all that? | 06:54 |
| Jucato | er... yeah | 06:54 |
| Jucato | it's based on the one I did for KDE 3.5.6 | 06:54 |
| Jucato | Chapter 12 of the KDE User Guide | 06:55 |
| Jucato | or is it Ch. 13... | 06:55 |
| nixternal | hrmm, well there is a lot of customizing | 06:55 |
| Jucato | oh ch. 12 | 06:55 |
| n8k99 | yes there is | 06:55 |
| Jucato | yep. I only focused on the appearance/theme aspects | 06:56 |
| Jucato | but I might have to add some notes there, depending on how System Settings turns out in Feisty... | 06:56 |
| nixternal | Multimedia (i.e., Music, Video, Photos) that needs some loving | 06:56 |
| nixternal | Office, Printing, those need a little bit of loving | 06:56 |
| === n8k99 currently rocks feisty like this http://eckenrodehouse.net/images/2-12.png | ||
| n8k99 | I can jump on Photos | 06:57 |
| Jucato | nixternal: ok... stuff that I couldn't probably work on. I'm just presenting what I already know and have :) | 06:57 |
| === Jucato gives others a chance :P | ||
| n8k99 | is that on the wiki as well? | 06:58 |
| nixternal | what is the "File" "Edit" and so on up top for? | 06:58 |
| Jucato | nixternal: the Mac OS X -like panel | 06:58 |
| nixternal | ya | 06:58 |
| Jucato | notice he doesn't have menu bars per window | 06:58 |
| n8k99 | i hate having those things in every single window | 06:59 |
| nixternal | I also noticed Konqi is semi-transparent | 06:59 |
| nixternal | oh ya | 06:59 |
| Jucato | my guess would either be Compiz/Beryl or kompmgr | 06:59 |
| nixternal | that is pretty neat | 06:59 |
| n8k99 | using standard composite from kwin | 06:59 |
| Jucato | ah kompmgr then | 06:59 |
| nixternal | ya, I messed around with it a little bit. The shadows on the bouncing icons for activity are garbage, but everything else was decent | 07:00 |
| nixternal | heh, #Alcoholics-Anonymous | 07:00 |
| n8k99 | oops! | 07:01 |
| nixternal | haha | 07:01 |
| Jucato | lol | 07:01 |
| Jucato | in your eagerness to show a screenshot :) | 07:01 |
| n8k99 | no one ever shows up anyway! | 07:01 |
| nixternal | http://www.nixternal.com/imgs/screeny1.png | 07:02 |
| nixternal | there is my lovely desktop | 07:02 |
| nixternal | nice and boring :) | 07:02 |
| nixternal | the way I like it | 07:02 |
| === Jucato doesn't have a current shot... so nothing to share | ||
| nixternal | Jucato: me either :) but it would look the same I think | 07:03 |
| Jucato | hehe | 07:03 |
| nixternal | I don't notice anything different lately | 07:03 |
| Jucato | mine is easy to imagine.. Kubuntu defaults except for the wall paper. and no visible kicker :) | 07:03 |
| nixternal | alrighty, I need my beauty rest, so I will talk to you all today or tomorrow where ever you are :) | 07:03 |
| Jucato | but I have 4 hidden panels | 07:03 |
| === n8k99 Jucato never has current pictures of anything ;) | ||
| Jucato | hahah | 07:03 |
| Jucato | g'night nixternal | 07:04 |
| nixternal | g'nite to all | 07:04 |
| nixternal | zzZzzzzzZzzz | 07:04 |
| n8k99 | night | 07:04 |
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| fabo | Hobbsee: pong | 08:41 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: plans to package basket 1.0? | 08:41 |
| fabo | Hobbsee: it was uploaded yesterday to Debian | 08:42 |
| Lure | fabo: do you know if somebody at debian is working on k3b 1.0? | 08:45 |
| Lure | fabo: seaLne is doing ubuntu packages, not sure if this is alligned with debian | 08:45 |
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| fabo | Lure: 1 don't know. k3b debian maintainer is ouotside of qt-kde and kde extras team. | 08:46 |
| fabo | *outside* | 08:46 |
| Lure | fabo: thanks | 08:47 |
| fabo | Hobbsee: uploaded to experimental. How does it work (as sync are from unstable) ? | 08:48 |
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| fabo | Hobbsee: there's a new release of libsynaptics and ksynaptics | 08:54 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: way cool. it's a UVF exception by now | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: ditto libsynaptics/ksynaptics | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | !uvf | 08:56 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about uvf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | !release | 08:56 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | !schedule | 08:56 |
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| Hobbsee | !uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 | 08:57 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, Hobbsee | 08:57 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: ^ | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: seems like a guy in #ubuntu+1 is asking to test k3b debs that he made. | 09:03 |
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| fabo | Hobbsee: ok :) | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: i'll do the basket one, if you want, and you do *synaptics* | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | ? | 09:04 |
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| Hobbsee | fabo: it appears that basket is only for i386 yet | 09:08 |
| kishore | Hi i am running feisty and was wondering if kde 4 dev packages would be available as is with edgy? | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | kishore: at some point, probably when they do the next snapshot | 09:09 |
| kishore | Hobbsee: and when is that expected? | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | kishore: no idea | 09:10 |
| kishore | now that i find feisty quite stable i spendmost time logged in hereand would like to work with kde 4 | 09:10 |
| Hobbsee | kishore: heard of kdesvn-build? it might be useful for what you want (if you want to compile kde4) | 09:11 |
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| kishore | thanks ill chk that out.. i just did not want to get into building kde itself | 09:14 |
| kishore | but it looks like i ll have to do that now anyway! :-) | 09:14 |
| Hobbsee | i'd say so | 09:14 |
| fabo | Hobbsee: ok, i'll take care of *synaptics | 09:15 |
| Jucato | kishore: http://developernew.kde.org | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: way cool. however, it seems that dholbach doenst know the freeze is in place... | 09:16 |
| kishore | Jucato: thanks for the link | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | okay, filing the bugs for it | 09:20 |
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| Hobbsee | fabo: when'd you upload the synaptics stuff? | 09:20 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: ksynaptics probably needs a merge | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | tonio_'s made changes to it | 09:24 |
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| fabo | Hobbsee: this morning (~1 hour, i already pre-packaged it) | 09:26 |
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| Hobbsee | fabo: right. | 09:27 |
| Hobbsee | fabo: which explains why i'ts not in debian QA yet | 09:27 |
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| Hobbsee | fabo: do you have the changelog of ksynaptics yet? | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | guess not, if it's not actually uploaded... | 09:30 |
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| _StefanS_ | mornings | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 09:50 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobseeeee | 09:51 |
| _StefanS_ | isn't it late in .au now ? | 09:51 |
| _StefanS_ | or early | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | 7.55 pm | 09:55 |
| _StefanS_ | oh | 09:55 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 11:51 |
| _StefanS_ | hey Tonioooos | 11:52 |
| _StefanS_ | it has been 2 hours since anyone wrote to the channel | 11:52 |
| _StefanS_ | so welcome. | 11:52 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_! | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: you modified ksynaptics :( | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i presume pot file extraction to rosetta cant be in the debian packages? | 11:53 |
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| === Jucato waves to Tonio_, _StefanS_, and Hobbsee | ||
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato!!! | 11:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucatoooo | 11:54 |
| Jucato | :) | 11:54 |
| Jucato | to much oooooo :P | 11:54 |
| _StefanS_ | oooooooooooo | 11:54 |
| Tonio_ | hey Jucato, Hobbsee, _StefanS_ | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 11:54 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ksynaptics package contains ubuntu specifics :) | 11:58 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: doesn't require a merge, but a sync ;) | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hrm? | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hum, oups, sync <> merge, gforget this ;) | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | requires a sync not a merge | 11:59 |
| Tonio_ | merge not a sync ? | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | merge not a sync, yes. | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | i'm thinking | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | ie, keep the ubuntu changes | 11:59 |
| === Tonio_ was really drunk this we, so forgive me :) | ||
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: hehe. hopefully your passphrase is long enough that you wont be able to type it in drunken state | 12:00 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if Tonio_ drunk is as amusing as Riddell drunk... | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I never saw Riddell drunk :) | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | globally, I'm more happy than sad when drunk | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: already seen Riddell dunk ? | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i saw him on irc drunk....never met him in person, drunk or sober | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | unfortunately, i didnt save the logs | 12:01 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: :-(, I wish I could read this :) | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: perhaps get him drunk again, and see it yourself | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | i think it was during UDS paris... | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | people kept buying him drinks on one of the nights... | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | hum, I was there at the uds and never saw Riddell drinking too much | 12:02 |
| Riddell | I've never been drunk in my life | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | except the latest day | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: rubbish :P | 12:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: really ? | 12:02 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: well... no | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: well, more than slightly tipsy? | 12:03 |
| Riddell | maybe once or twice | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well that's an evidence of serious | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | I wish I could say the same :) | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:04 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: if you want to give away hardware just announce it here or on kubuntu-devel mailing list | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | that doesn't happen very often to me, maybe twice a year, not more | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | hehe - wishful thinking, anyone? | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon's got a spare pcmcia wifi card, if anyone wants it. | 12:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: oka, I wasn't sure | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have a solution concerning kde autostart, and that works | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but I'd like your opinion on that point : | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: somehow kde pastes /usr to the path, so I have to add a rule for xdg/data, and then create a symlink | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: does that sound crappy for you ? | 12:10 |
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| _StefanS_ | by the way, do all you guys use konqueror, or prefer firefox ? | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | FIREFOX!!! | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | me too, I was just wondering.. being KDE and all :) | 12:21 |
| Jucato | Konqi | 12:22 |
| Jucato | :D | 12:22 |
| serzholino | Knqui too | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | Krazy people, you are :P | 12:23 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: did you notice that your clipboard gets zeroed when you quit firefox ? I mean if you copy some text and quit firefox, and want to insert it into eg. kwrite - its gone | 12:23 |
| === Jucato never realized Automatix2 went GUI until today... :( | ||
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: yep | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: good. that means you're staying away from it :P | 12:23 |
| Jucato | because Firefox doesn't use klipper? | 12:24 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: oh definitely :) | 12:24 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: Would be cool to change it... its soo anoying | 12:24 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: nope, Its a security featire | 12:24 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: err.. or usuability error | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: afaik, most apps do that. unless you have klipper | 12:24 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt use klipper | ||
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee: nope they dont | 12:24 |
| Jucato | klipper nice :) | 12:24 |
| Jucato | did you know you could search-as-you-type in klipper? :D | 12:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: firefox is the only one I have encountered, but thunderbird probably does the same | 12:25 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: I'm guessing most non-KDE apps? | 12:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: sure seems like it | 12:26 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: what the ... hmm never figured that out | 12:26 |
| Jucato | not surprising :) | 12:26 |
| _StefanS_ | hopefully that will change with kde4 and stuff | 12:27 |
| Jucato | non-KDE apps would probably not be using KDE API to interface with Klipper. but I'm not familiar with the technical stuff andall | 12:27 |
| Jucato | and all* | 12:27 |
| mhb | nice offer _StefanS_ | 12:27 |
| Jucato | dinner!! :) | 12:27 |
| mhb | and hi all | 12:28 |
| Jucato | hi mhb | 12:28 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: thanks :) - sure hope someone benefits from it | 12:28 |
| === Jucato waves /tmp/goodbye | ||
| Hobbsee | hey mhb! | 12:28 |
| mhb | by the way: does someone experience a small bug in the new shutdown dialog? | 12:28 |
| mhb | the text is over the icons here | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: not here. what locale? | 12:28 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: czech | 12:29 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: is that a problem with that? | 12:29 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: the sizing of the text vs. icons is broken in some cases, I have been up all last night to figure out how to fix it depending on the fonts | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: no idea. it might have something to do with it | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 12:29 |
| mhb | what are you people working on these days? | 12:29 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: please send me a screenshot so I can see if its the error I already know about | 12:30 |
| === mhb wants to help, but doesn't know what to do | ||
| mhb | _StefanS_: sure | 12:30 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: you could help me with figuring out if a QPushButton can be laid out like the current shutdown with icon and text below. I having a hard time overriding the drawContents on that one | 12:31 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: I'm currently using QFrame | 12:31 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1074/shutdownbugyy1.png | 12:33 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: thats a variant of the issue, but is related to the same bug i think. Thanks ! | 12:33 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: whats your resolution, fonts, and dpi? | 12:34 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: can't you overload the paint method for the button? | 12:34 |
| mhb | just a thought | 12:34 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: yep I can, but it has no effect on the button whatsoever.. and I can't figure out why | 12:34 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: 1024x768, DejavuSans 10, 96 DPI (that should be the default) | 12:35 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: the thing is: if I use the QPushButton instead of QFrame i get alot of stuff given for free, like tab/arrow/enter actions | 12:35 |
| _StefanS_ | thanks | 12:36 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: I see | 12:36 |
| mhb | _StefanS_: is your code available somewhere? | 12:36 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm thats funny, the other guy that had a problem was in 1024x768 also.. | 12:36 |
| _StefanS_ | gotta try switching down, and test it there | 12:36 |
| _StefanS_ | argh its probably KDialog sizehinting that does it | 12:37 |
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| _StefanS_ | must be relative to the resolutions | 12:38 |
| === _StefanS_ has to do some regular work before working on that dialog | ||
| Lure | Hobbsee: re bug 84678 - why sync request from unstable (has 0.5.0) - we need experimental (1.0)? | 12:48 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84678 in basket "Please sync basket (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84678 | 12:48 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: damn. please change ti :) | 12:49 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: ohh...that's why the changelog buggered | 12:49 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: exactly ;-) | 12:49 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: because i did the quick and dirty use of requestsync. | 12:49 |
| === Hobbsee was *wondering* what happened there | ||
| Lure | Hobbsee: should we change it or is better to Reject it and open new bug? | 12:51 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: change it - motu uvfe has already been done | 12:52 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: done | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: thanks :) | 12:54 |
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| oslo | mhb> about acx right now i just need to run " sudo modprobe -r acx && cd /usr/src/acx-20070101 && sudo insmod ./acx.ko " on each restart for my WLAN works correctly | 01:06 |
| mhb | oslo: really? I have to try that | 01:09 |
| oslo | but i have a problem with my turboprint for canon pixma mp150, on edgy /dapper it's worked but on feisty it tolds me my printer is disconected; i tried with the package on the official site & by compiling myself: same things | 01:09 |
| oslo | mhb> yesterday or this night on the morning i gave you a link with what to do | 01:09 |
| mhb | oslo: really? I have to check | 01:09 |
| oslo | yes u have | 01:09 |
| mhb | oh yes, thanks :o) | 01:10 |
| _StefanS_ | anyone know nico larosa ? | 01:10 |
| oslo | a pablo escobar's friend ? | 01:12 |
| oslo | :p | 01:12 |
| _StefanS_ | heh | 01:12 |
| mhb | by the way, did someone have trouble with knetworkmanager? | 01:14 |
| mhb | mine says no network found even though "iwlist wlan0 scan" finds one | 01:15 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: I encountered a little stop yesterday where I had to logout and in again to enable wireless | 01:15 |
| _StefanS_ | mhb: definitely been much better since Tonio fixed that dcop thing | 01:15 |
| Jucato | I'm experiencing a strange problem when installing compiled apps/styles in places other than /usr (using --prefix=/opt). even after adding /opt to $KDEDIRS and to $PATH in .bashrc, KDE doesn't "see" the app/style, except when I run it from the command line/Konsole. Any ideas why this happens? | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: got wlan0 commented out in /e/n/i? | 01:16 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: did you login and out again ? kde might not have picked up the new path | 01:23 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: log out, log in, reboot, everything.... | 01:24 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I have to check | 01:24 |
| Jucato | my next attempt will be to set KDEDIRS in /etc/environment | 01:24 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: try setting it in /etc | 01:24 |
| _StefanS_ | yep | 01:24 |
| _StefanS_ | kdm runs as root | 01:24 |
| _StefanS_ | which in turn launches kde | 01:24 |
| Jucato | hm... | 01:25 |
| Jucato | but about PATH and KDEDIR? | 01:25 |
| _StefanS_ | so try /etc | 01:25 |
| Jucato | so you mean there's no way in Kubuntu to set user specific PATH and KDEDIRS? | 01:25 |
| _StefanS_ | seems like they dont stick, is what i mean | 01:25 |
| Jucato | strange... | 01:26 |
| _StefanS_ | try the /etc approach and see if that works, then we'll see if a user can override it | 01:26 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: no I had not | 01:26 |
| _StefanS_ | afterwards | 01:26 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: should commenting it help? | 01:26 |
| Jucato | hm.. okay.... | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: you can try. one works, the other doesnt | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | and if you do it, and it doesnt work, try reverting it. | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | it's rather tempramental - but once it works once, it keeps working. | 01:27 |
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| praetor | whats the command to show all connected devices? my ipod doesnt want to connect for some bizarre reason? | 01:27 |
| Jucato | lspci ? | 01:27 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: lscpi ? | 01:27 |
| Jucato | :P | 01:27 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: lsusb maybe | 01:27 |
| praetor | i tried lsusb and it just hangs | 01:28 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: did you give a few moments ? | 01:28 |
| praetor | yea | 01:28 |
| praetor | heh | 01:28 |
| _StefanS_ | what does dmesg say | 01:28 |
| praetor | unforunately i have a 3rd gen ipod and rockbox doesnt work so well on them | 01:28 |
| _StefanS_ | I mean does it even recognize the usb device | 01:29 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: well, I've tried both | 01:30 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: and in both cases knetworkmanager freezes around 28% | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: right. then it's just screwed :P | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | hrm | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: any encryption on it? | 01:30 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I've tried running iwconfig | 01:30 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: nope | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | can you connect via standard ifconfig, if you sudo killall NetworkManager? | 01:31 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: it seems knetworkmanager finds the AP and then in 2 seconds detaches from it | 01:31 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: yeah | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | ugh | 01:31 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: I simply set the ESSID and then run dhclient - as simple as that | 01:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Hobbsee & mhb: did you notice the bubble popup has disappeared lately ? | 01:32 |
| mhb | really? | 01:32 |
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| _StefanS_ | I just see it briefly and then it just makes progress in the tray icon | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | _StefanS_: yeah, seems to soemtimes. | 01:32 |
| _StefanS_ | the first versions actually had the bubble on until the connection was done | 01:33 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: hmm, there has been a knetworkmanager update recently, maybe that's my problem | 01:33 |
| praetor | _StefanS_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5399/ | 01:33 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: hmm did you just unplug it while it was initializing ? | 01:35 |
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| praetor | _StefanS_: i had plugged it in, the ipod was displaying the do not turn off thing, and then it ran out of power so it died | 01:36 |
| Jucato | adding the PATH and KDEDIRS to /etc/environment worked... but it's system-wide now... so... :( | 01:39 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: oh | 01:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: good thing, because it works now. How is your ~/.bashrc laid out ? | 01:40 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: as normal as the default .bashrc in Kubuntu | 01:41 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: plug it in again, and let me see | 01:41 |
| kwwii | howdy all | 01:41 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: I'm presuming you're running KDE 3.5.6 + Basket 1.0, not Basket 0.6.0? | 01:41 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: well you added KDE_DIR and PATH entries I imagine | 01:41 |
| Jucato | hiya kwwii! | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: correct | 01:41 |
| _StefanS_ | hi kwwii | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: well, 1.0rc1 at the moment, but yeah | 01:41 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: when I did that in .bashrc only, it didn't work. when I added it to /etc/environment and removed it from .bashrc, it worked | 01:41 |
| praetor | ok i've unplugged it and plugged it in again | 01:41 |
| praetor | the ipod doesnt display the "do not unplug me" screen | 01:42 |
| kwwii | how does one add an entry in fstab? I have all these funky UUID=very long sting thingies that I have never seen before | 01:42 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: ok... I just wanted someone to test if Basket can't be added to Kontact since 3.5.6 | 01:42 |
| Jucato | !uuid | kwwii | 01:42 |
| ubotu | kwwii: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: blkid (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) | 01:42 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: i think usbstorage module died | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: if it cant be, or can be? | 01:42 |
| praetor | nod | 01:42 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: can't | 01:42 |
| praetor | i get the same error | 01:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: yes I know, because that is what we have been talking about | 01:42 |
| praetor | can i restart the module without rebooting? | 01:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: what do you have in your .bashrc ? | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: that got fixed in 1.0beta1 iirc | 01:43 |
| kwwii | hehe, since my last update amarok no longer works with my ipod. once again it says that it is a read-only file system | 01:43 |
| kwwii | kernel update that is | 01:43 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: so it's a basket problem? coz I vaguely remember being able to add it to Kontact in KDE 3.5.5 using Basket 0.6.0 | 01:43 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: want me to pastebin? | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | i think kdepim broke basket. | 01:43 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: yes please | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: but it's all fixed with 1.0 | 01:43 |
| Jucato | hm. ok I'll try 1.0 :) | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: there's packages for debian - feel free to recompile | 01:44 |
| === Jucato strangely, feels more comfy compiling from source | ||
| Jucato | _StefanS_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5401/ | 01:45 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: well I meant your user's .bashrc :) | 01:48 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: not the system bashrc | 01:48 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: huh? that *is* my user's .bashrc | 01:48 |
| _StefanS_ | ok | 01:49 |
| _StefanS_ | i see | 01:49 |
| === Jucato wonders what made _StefanS_ it was /etc/bash_bashrc... | ||
| Jucato | er.. /etc/bash.bashrc | 01:49 |
| _StefanS_ | you should add those entries in .bash_profile i see now | 01:50 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: so it doesn't matter if .bashrc is sourced by .bash_profile? | 01:50 |
| Jucato | wanna see .bash_profile too? :D | 01:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: nope, just add the PATH and KDEDIR stuff below the source | 01:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: no dammit :D | 01:51 |
| Jucato | hm... mmokay :) | 01:51 |
| === Jucato is open to any suggestion at this point | ||
| Jucato | although almost everyone says to put it in .bashrc... I'll try anything :) | 01:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: export PATH=$PATH:/opt/blabla | 01:52 |
| Jucato | yep | 01:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: export KDE_DIR=$KDE_DIR:/opt/sasdsa | 01:52 |
| _StefanS_ | something like that | 01:52 |
| Jucato | yep yep | 01:52 |
| _StefanS_ | and that doesn't work for you ? | 01:52 |
| Jucato | in .bashrc? nope | 01:53 |
| _StefanS_ | .bash_profile dammit | 01:53 |
| _StefanS_ | :D | 01:53 |
| Jucato | well wait a minute :) | 01:53 |
| _StefanS_ | forget .bashrc | 01:53 |
| Jucato | I have to type and logout ok :) | 01:53 |
| _StefanS_ | yep | 01:53 |
| === Jucato is not that fast :P | ||
| _StefanS_ | move it move it... | 01:53 |
| _StefanS_ | show me the money | 01:53 |
| Jucato | ok going | 01:54 |
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| Jucato | _StefanS_: ey thanks! worked like a charm | 02:01 |
| Jucato | now for the messy details: why .bash_profile and not .bashrc? | 02:01 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: it seems like debian likes another approach to the bash environment | 02:02 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: on fedora you would just .bashrc to set stuff like that | 02:02 |
| Jucato | ah the beauty of it all :) | 02:02 |
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| _StefanS_ | its a matter of taste how its laid out | 02:02 |
| Jucato | on Gentoo and Mandriva as well, as some kde devs told me | 02:02 |
| _StefanS_ | glad it worked :) | 02:02 |
| Jucato | thanks. now I know of a working method, and a topic to rant on | 02:02 |
| Jucato | lol | 02:02 |
| _StefanS_ | :) | 02:03 |
| === Jucato thinks stuff like this should be standardized a bit... LSB anyone? | ||
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: I don't know its part of the LSB, but yes it would be nice | 02:03 |
| === _StefanS_ is just stupid at sentences today | ||
| Jucato | or could this be a behavior caused by the switch to dash? | 02:04 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: LSB as LifeStyleBlock ? | 02:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | Jucato: might be... probably in some history archives | 02:04 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: LooSeBowel (movement) | 02:05 |
| Tm_T | Ok. | 02:05 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: unless you were serious about the question... :) | 02:05 |
| Tm_T | Seriously, Linux Standard Base? | 02:05 |
| Jucato | yeah | 02:05 |
| praetor | wonder if anyone has been experiencing KWallet bugs | 02:05 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: which ones do you want ? | 02:06 |
| praetor | for instance, in Kmail if I have 2 pop accounts, KMail always asks me for the password for the 2nd account, even though I click store password | 02:06 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: Linux Standard Base | 02:06 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: Ah, good guess here then. ;) | 02:06 |
| praetor | similarly, in Kopete I have 2 accounts, first was MSN, 2nd is AIM. Kopete always asks me for the AIM password, even though i click store | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: suggest you dont use aim, and that problem will go away. | 02:06 |
| praetor | _StefanS_: rebooted, my ipod works :-) | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:06 |
| _StefanS_ | praetor: goody .. the usbstorage module went bonkers when it died before hehe | 02:07 |
| praetor | Hobbsee: some people I game with are on AIM heh | 02:07 |
| === _StefanS_ wonders what the swedish chef would have said to that | ||
| _StefanS_ | bork bork | 02:07 |
| praetor | AIM seems to be pretty huge in the US | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: oh dear. you are aware that jabber does a port across that, i presume? | 02:07 |
| praetor | and Yahoo messenger in Europe | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:07 |
| praetor | Hobbsee: i dont know anything about jabber | 02:08 |
| Jucato | Yahoo Messenger in the Philippines... | 02:08 |
| Jucato | Google stuff hasn't caught on yet... | 02:08 |
| _StefanS_ | msn in dk | 02:08 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: really? jabber.org | 02:08 |
| praetor | Hobbsee: but if everyone uses AIM? | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: http://www.jabber.org/user/userguide/#findgateways | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | praetor: ie, use the gateway to talk to those using AIM | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | if that helps | 02:11 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: btw, how did you know that I should put the env vars in .bash_profile, just by looking at .bashrc? | 02:13 |
| praetor | oh thats rather neat | 02:13 |
| praetor | cheers Hobbsee :-) | 02:14 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: it just looked like it wasn't meant to be edited, also be looking at bash_profile you can see that it sources everything, and then after that you can override | 02:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: donno, I must have been looking too much at config files hehe | 02:15 |
| Jucato | lol | 02:15 |
| Jucato | I thought .bash_profile sourcing .bashrc was normal, so it didn't occur to me... | 02:15 |
| Jucato | to add it to .bash_profile instead | 02:16 |
| _StefanS_ | well naturally the idea was to make sure nothing happened after you set your environment, and by taking the last part of the chain it "should" work | 02:17 |
| _StefanS_ | ofcourse there could have been other stuff that would try to impose a static path no matter what, at which we would have no other solution that to set it in the system config | 02:17 |
| === _StefanS_ could really use some help on overriding the QPushButton's paintEvent to put pixmap and text below the buttons... | ||
| _StefanS_ | any takers :D | 02:21 |
| === Jucato knows no code | ||
| Hobbsee | ich auch | 02:21 |
| _StefanS_ | argh | 02:22 |
| Jucato | _StefanS_: ask me in a few months, I probably will :) | 02:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Jucato: trying to learn c++ at the moment | 02:22 |
| _StefanS_ | ? | 02:22 |
| Jucato | are you a mind reader as well as a .bashrc reader? | 02:23 |
| _StefanS_ | nope, just intuition hehe | 02:23 |
| Jucato | heheh | 02:23 |
| _StefanS_ | if I only didn't have to work, I could look at it now... however why would I have time to be irc the last hours... | 02:24 |
| _StefanS_ | work is boring. | 02:24 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: broken Basket support seems to be from the kdepim side of things... | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: right | 02:26 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ever heard about that bug concerning kopete and edgy ? | 06:01 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: which bug? | 06:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/capture16.png | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that guy is using a fresh and up to date install, kopete seems to use iso instead of utf8 | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | all the system including kde is using utf8 | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | strange.... | 06:02 |
| Riddell | yes, that is strange | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm telling him to switch to 3.5.6 ans we'll see | 06:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and concerning the xdg/autostart, are you fine doing what I propose ? | 06:04 |
| Tonio_ | adding the xdg/autostart, which makes kde using /usr/xdg/autostart, and create a symlink ? | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | that's the best I've been able to do | 06:05 |
| Riddell | can't you add /etc directly? | 06:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no, it seems to paste /usr automatically :) | 06:06 |
| Riddell | there should be a better way | 06:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I know, but that means patching many more things I think | 06:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the solution is probably to patch kstandarddirs.h too | 06:08 |
| Tonio_ | but that sounds a bit dangerous in my opinion :) | 06:08 |
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| Tonio_ | crimsun: ping ? | 06:12 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: well the problem is that autostart path is a "resource" | 06:30 |
| Tonio_ | and it seems to append /usr to any resource | 06:30 |
| Tonio_ | might be hard to change since that's done deeply in kdelibs code | 06:30 |
| yuriy | Riddell: bug 84608 | 06:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84608 in software-properties "software-properties --enable-component is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84608 | 06:34 |
| yuriy | looks like you copy pasted the bug from -gtk | 06:34 |
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| Riddell | yuriy: that functionality should be in the common code | 06:41 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning autostart, it is clear that addresourcetype is using relative path | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | addresourcedir is using absolute path according to the doc.... I'll try with this | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I should be able to use addresourcedir since the type is already defined previously for share/autostart | 06:50 |
| Riddell | I wonder if basket 1.0 got released? | 06:59 |
| Riddell | Lure: is digikam 0.9.1 just a bug fix release? | 07:02 |
| kwwii | Riddell: Hobbsee has been ranting about it | 07:02 |
| Lure | Riddell: no, also some features - but major "feature" is fixing major new features of 0.9.0 | 07:03 |
| Lure | Riddell: basket was released and sync requested | 07:03 |
| Riddell | Lure: oh cool | 07:04 |
| Lure | Riddell: digikam also needs one new lib (libkexiv2), but I suspect we should be fine in getting MIR as it is actually code of digikam moved to lib | 07:04 |
| Lure | Riddell: it will be shared between other photo apps (showimg, kipi-plugins) | 07:05 |
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| Lure | Riddell: 0.9.1beta1 change log: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9957 | 07:05 |
| Eruantalon | Shouldn't there be a way to recover from a kwin or kicker crash in Kubuntu? I often have kwin locking up or chrashing. The best way i have found out of that problem is using ctrl+alt+f1 and using pkill kwin but i can't start kwin from another terminal right? So then I am stuck. Shouldn't there be a mechanism for sensing when kwin is stuck or has chrashed that makes sure that it restarts? | 07:13 |
| Eruantalon | I am thinking that Neal Stephenson was right when he wrote that Unix/Linux is like that drill that keeps going no matter what. | 07:15 |
| Eruantalon | There need to be fallbacks when stuff goes wrong. | 07:15 |
| Eruantalon | There need to be fallbacks when stuff goes wrong. | 07:18 |
| Riddell | Eruantalon: there's no kwin developers, but if you have a problem you should report it to bugs.kde.org | 07:19 |
| Riddell | no kwin developers here I mean | 07:19 |
| Eruantalon | ah. But I am not sure that it is a kwin bug per se(of course the chrashing is, but I have come to expect that). I am thinking it is something that Kubuntu should employ. | 07:22 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi all | 07:29 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I'll be working on the kubuntu usplash tomorrow, think we can still get it on the next herd? | 07:46 |
| Riddell | kwwii: oh, dunno, hadn't heard the freeze details for htat | 07:47 |
| Riddell | thfat | 07:47 |
| Riddell | thing | 07:47 |
| kwwii | gotcha | 07:48 |
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| Eruantalon | How many herds will there be? | 07:59 |
| Lure | Riddell: can you sponsor upload for bug 84480 | 08:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84480 in acpid "power button is ignored by acpi scripts when running kpowersave" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84480 | 08:00 |
| yuriy | Riddell: also a minor thing, but bug 84610 is -kde specific | 08:01 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84610 in software-properties "software-properties-kde has window title "Form"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84610 | 08:01 |
| Riddell | yuriy: oh, that'll be my fault :) | 08:03 |
| Riddell | easy enough to fix | 08:03 |
| crimsun | Tonio_: pong | 08:24 |
| nixternal | howdy KDE people :) (including crimsun) | 08:25 |
| crimsun | I'm on gnome atm | 08:26 |
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| oslo | hi for my acx wifi card works on feisty i had to do this : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/78513 | 08:44 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 78513 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Current ACX driver will not let USR5410 card function properly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 08:44 |
| oslo | but now, after each reboot i have to " sudo modprobe -r acx && cd /usr/src/acx-20070101 && sudo insmod ./acx.ko " how can i make it automaticaly without typing password or only one time ? | 08:46 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: kdelibs patch for xdg autostart works :) | 09:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm uploading | 09:39 |
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| Tonio_ | crimsun: I installed ubuntu for a friend of mine yesterday, wanting to test linux | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: everything worked fine except the sound | 09:44 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: it works but the sound is horrible, saturated, and very low level | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: seems to be a well known issue with some intel chips... | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: I have followed the wiki guide to recompile alsa drivers etc... nothing worked | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: heard about a solution to that issue ? | 09:47 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I hope you installed kubuntu ;-) | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: nope ;) | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I'll wait for feisty to install kubuntu to users again | 09:49 |
| Lure | Tonio_: shame on you ;-) | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: edgy is too imature in my opinion | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: simply honnest, I work on kubuntu, but edgy is really buggy | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: can a newbie user understand that installing java will break his package configuration ? :) | 09:50 |
| Lure | Tonio_: me neither.. ;-) | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: the good news is that feisty will be the very first really mature version of kubuntu ;) | 09:53 |
| Lure | Tonio_: wanna bet? ;-) | 09:54 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: bet for what ? ;) | 09:54 |
| crimsun | Tonio_: I can't debug with that little information. | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: yes I know, I'm searching for the wiki page for more precise infos | 09:56 |
| crimsun | if you can gather the information requested at the top of wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems, that would be a starting point | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: the point is that I'm not in the front of the machine at the moment, but the problem is well known.... | 09:56 |
| crimsun | there are so many "well known" snd-intel8x0 problems | 09:57 |
| crimsun | I haven't a clue to which you're referring | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=244624 | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | this one ;) | 09:58 |
| crimsun | ARGH | 09:58 |
| crimsun | I hate when people do that | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: ? | 09:59 |
| crimsun | please direct him to the DebuggingSoundProblems page | 09:59 |
| crimsun | there is a reason I ask for all that info [https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/42718/comments/11 ] | 09:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42718 in linux-source-2.6.17 "cannot install drivers to Soundblaster AudigySL" [Low,Needs info] | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: well I didn't post on that page, I'll do the tests and report, don't mind ;) | 10:00 |
| crimsun | people don't realise that there are multiple problems, and the symptoms can be caused by any of a half-dozen of those problems | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: just that this seems to be a very widelly known and common issue, so I hoped you had a fix or trick ;) | 10:00 |
| crimsun | the "hibernate and resume for 'full' volume" issue was fixed in 2.6.20-6 by my backporting the conexant driver | 10:01 |
| crimsun | there are another 11 bugs that lie in the realtek and sigmatel HDA codecs | 10:02 |
| crimsun | with that _precise_ symptom | 10:02 |
| crimsun | those have been reported against linux-source-2.6.20 already, no need to dupe them | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: okay, I didn't knew that the same symptom could have that many causes possible | 10:03 |
| crimsun | anyhow, I'll take a look at that url (saved) | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | crimsun: well I'll send you a full report in a few days, maybe tomorrow, thanks ;) | 10:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi there | 10:20 |
| Lure | hi _StefanS_ | 10:21 |
| _StefanS_ | hey Lure | 10:21 |
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| oslo | arf kde-looks is down right now...it seems | 10:24 |
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| Tonio_ | hey _StefanS_ :) | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | hep hey | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I looked at the kaffeine bug, and it seems to me that the xine_part is to blame. | 10:46 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: 0.8.2 works fine on feisty, that means no stuff missing from the kde system | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum, I have several part available (kmplayer part, vlc part) | 10:47 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: 0.8.3 worked briefly with the kaffeine-xine 0.8.2, so | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | none of them is visible | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: there are several kparts and none of them is visible, that's why I don't understand | 10:47 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ok, well I only have kaffiene-xine | 10:48 |
| _StefanS_ | brb | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yes but if you install kmplayer you'll ahve a second one in the list | 10:48 |
| _StefanS_ | gotta give my daughter a bottle of milk | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/capture17.png | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I have kmplayer, kaffeine and vlc installed, I should have 3 engines in the list | 10:52 |
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| _StefanS_ | oka i'm back | 11:02 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: are you using 0.8.3 on edgy ? | 11:02 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: nope on feisty, but have a edgy right here beside me | 11:03 |
| _StefanS_ | an edgy | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: which version of kaffeine ? | 11:03 |
| _StefanS_ | 0.8.2 | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | and the list isn't empty ? | 11:03 |
| _StefanS_ | well on my feisty its 0.8.3, and edgy its 0.8.2 | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | if you sudo apt-get install kmplayer, what happens ? | 11:03 |
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| _StefanS_ | on which installation ?? :O | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: okay so for you it works on edgy and fails on feisty that's it ? | 11:04 |
| _StefanS_ | err.. If I take kaffeine 0.8.2 and compile it on feisty everything works. | 11:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | along with kaffeine-xine 0.8.2 aswell | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | If I then switch just kaffeine to 0.8.3, and leave kaffeine-xine at 0.8.2, the menu displays the Xine-part in kaffeine 0.8.3 | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | do you follow? | 11:05 |
| _StefanS_ | which led me to believe that the kaffeine-xine kpart is broken, to strengthen this I have observed that the libkaffeinepart has more symlinks in /usr/lib when using the old 0.8.2 version. libkaffeine is symlinked from '.so' to so.0.0.1, so.0 | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: can you diff the desktop files ? | 11:08 |
| _StefanS_ | they are the same, already did that | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | ho you mean the .so file ? | 11:08 |
| _StefanS_ | apart from a translation | 11:08 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum, the problem is that external kparts don't display aswell | 11:08 |
| _StefanS_ | hmm it does a fairly standard query to find the kparts inside kaffeine 0.8.3, so I don't think we can blame that | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum, I follow you but the problem is that not any, even external kparts do show in 0.8.3 | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | so I think we can blame kdelibs or kaffeine :) | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | but there is something to blame :) | 11:11 |
| _StefanS_ | oka, well if I use 0.8.2 it displays the parts | 11:11 |
| _StefanS_ | so I don't think kdelibs is to blame | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | what drives me nuts is that it works for you with 0.8.3 with kaffeine xine 0.8.2 | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | that doesn't make sense | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | in that case kmplayer should display aswell | 11:11 |
| _StefanS_ | yea that was a wierd one I tell you :) | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | vlc too | 11:12 |
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| _StefanS_ | in kmplayer, where should I look ? | 11:12 |
| _StefanS_ | for the parts i mean | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: can you look in your cache and send me your kaffeine-xine 0.8.2 deb ? | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | I'd like to test this :) | 11:12 |
| _StefanS_ | sure | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: just install kmplayer and that's it | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | it should appear in the list | 11:12 |
| _StefanS_ | in kaffeine ? | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | maybe requires a kde reload | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yes | 11:13 |
| _StefanS_ | oka | 11:13 |
| _StefanS_ | lemme test | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: kaffeine is a plugin readers the same way konqueror is, it can use other players kparts | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | I'm restarting kde to test this too | 11:13 |
| _StefanS_ | oka | 11:13 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I have an idea.... | 11:17 |
| _StefanS_ | yep ? | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: can you paste me the /usr/share/services/xine_part.desktop from kaffeine-xine 0.8.2 ? | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | maybe there is a tag or something used | 11:17 |
| _StefanS_ | sure | 11:17 |
| _StefanS_ | think i tried that | 11:17 |
| _StefanS_ | sent you the debs btw | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: my test didn't work.... | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: perfect thanks | 11:18 |
| _StefanS_ | ah now I remember - the difference between those desktop files are just the number of mimetypes. The new 0.8.3 supports more | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum..... | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | where is the damned difference ??? | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: on the edgy box with 0.8.2 do you see anything related to kmplayer in the menu once kmplayer is installed ? | 11:20 |
| _StefanS_ | well I got this the wrong way around.. there are more mimetypes for the OLD version | 11:21 |
| _StefanS_ | I will install kmplayer | 11:21 |
| _StefanS_ | already installed .. checking | 11:22 |
| _StefanS_ | yep it does show both xine and kmplayer plus netscape | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: which is normal | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: for me the issue is in kaffeine code | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | no other explanation | 11:24 |
| Tonio_ | or kdelibs 3.5.6 | 11:24 |
| _StefanS_ | yea probably | 11:24 |
| _StefanS_ | sent you the two desktop files btw | 11:24 |
| Tonio_ | thanks | 11:24 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: but well the kmplayer one didn't change... it should still work | 11:24 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: what version of kde are you using on edgy ? | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | yea, only thing left is kaffeine to blame | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | 3.5.6 | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | so it cant be that | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | using riddells packages | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yeah it is kaffeine for sure | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | just cant figure out where it goes wrong | 11:25 |
| _StefanS_ | 1) KTrader::OfferList offers = KTrader::self()->query("audio/x-mp3", "'KaffeinePart' in ServiceTypes"); | 11:26 |
| _StefanS_ | 2) offers = KTrader::self()->query("audio/x-mp3", "'KParts/ReadOnlyPart' in ServiceTypes"); | 11:26 |
| _StefanS_ | thats it | 11:26 |
| _StefanS_ | it uses this to populate the menu | 11:26 |
| Tonio_ | haha :) | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | kaffeine isn't associated to mp3 anymore ;) | 11:27 |
| _StefanS_ | what ? you fixed it :) | 11:27 |
| _StefanS_ | ah ! | 11:27 |
| _StefanS_ | I thought that was too easy | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | I don't want kaffeine associated to audio things, only video :) | 11:27 |
| _StefanS_ | thats lame.. they depend on kaffiene to have mp3 assoc | 11:28 |
| _StefanS_ | also the query dont work... great | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: but how does it integrate other kparts then ? | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | that's the way it offers the kaffeine one only no ? | 11:30 |
| _StefanS_ | Well it just tries to insert all others that are associated with mp3 | 11:31 |
| _StefanS_ | thats the way I read it | 11:31 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: testing with avi :) | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | that may explain indeed, I removed all audio mimetypes for feisty :) | 11:32 |
| _StefanS_ | hehe | 11:33 |
| _StefanS_ | well its totally wrong to depend on mp3 to list video parts | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hackish.... | 11:34 |
| _StefanS_ | yea bad stuff | 11:34 |
| _StefanS_ | donno if that could be changed to something video/x-avi or something | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: it'll probably fix the bug..... I'll have to change kmplayer kparts too | 11:34 |
| _StefanS_ | yep. | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: building with the fix, I'll let you know :) | 11:41 |
| _StefanS_ | goody :D | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: of that works, I'll have another bug to submit you :) | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: lot of fun too hehe | 11:41 |
| _StefanS_ | yess.. I struggling with the logout box | 11:41 |
| _StefanS_ | sizing issues | 11:41 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: talking about that I noticed that while the cursor is on an icon, the text and image are going 1 pix on the bottom | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: is that normal ? | 11:44 |
| _StefanS_ | well thats a QFrame::Sunken | 11:44 |
| _StefanS_ | I could remove it | 11:45 |
| _StefanS_ | think I will.. | 11:45 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I must say I prefer when everything stays at the same exact place | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | looks cleaner to me | 11:48 |
| _StefanS_ | yea you're right. I will remove it | 11:48 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | hey _StefanS_! | 12:00 |
| Tonio_ | re Hobbsee | 12:03 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_ :) | 12:03 |
| Tonio_ | I can't wait for tomorrow | 12:04 |
| === Hobbsee wonders why there's no clock on upgrading the kicker | ||
| Hobbsee | why, whta's tomorrow? | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | I'll know if I'll get that new appartment | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | UDS is announced, btw. *bounce* | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | nice!! | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | 2.5x bigger.... same price | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | very nice! | 12:04 |
| === ingmar [n=ingmar@86-39-1-203.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: isn't that education UDS ? | 12:05 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: a few days before, ti is | 12:05 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I didn't receive the mail concerning feisty+1 uds | 12:06 |
| === ingmar is now known as Ingmar^ | ||
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: it's on u-d-a | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: didn't receive it yet :) | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | I reall hope canonical will make an exception.... they generally don't sponsor people twice | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that this time it'll concern kde4 and lots of people were at google (me, luka etc....) | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yes. the lack of kubuntu people would rather indicate that they would need to sponsor poeple twice | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | I wish I coul be there | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: apply and see, i guess | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | sure ;) | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | it also depends if I have a job or not at that moment | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | true | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | I don't for the moment but I started to search very hardly last week | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: fix worked :) thanks for the help ;) | 12:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: great :) - no problem ! | 12:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: now its time for you to help me on the sizing of the dialog.. | 12:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: just kidding :P | 12:17 |
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