=== jelmer [n=jelmer@219pc197.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === _thumper_ is now known as thumper === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [01:05] Goooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [01:09] mpt: afternoon [01:10] mpt: for dependancy graph that is shown on the spec pages, do you know where it is size constrained? [01:10] not offhand, no [01:10] though I probably increased it for the new layout [01:14] mpt: the max is too small [01:15] https://blueprints.beta.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+spec/ui-roadmap [01:15] mpt: thanks! [01:21] Hobbsee, you're welcome [01:21] thanks for the feedback [01:22] mpt: :) [01:22] mpt: still going to reply back - sometime [01:22] thumper, I have a worse example than that [01:25] thumper, https://beta.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/1.0-web-interface [01:25] thumper, it's bug 66344 [01:25] Malone bug 66344 in blueprint "Dependency chart becomes unreadable with >12 dependencies" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66344 - Assigned to Steve Alexander (stevea) [01:25] and tweaking the width will only change the "12" in that bug to "14" or "16" === jelmer [n=jelmer@219pc197.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad === jelmer is now known as ctrlsoft === ctrlsoft is now known as jelmer === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.13.20.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [02:53] 144 KB for a translation page, ouch [02:53] and that's just the HTML [02:54] then 110 KB for MochiKit [02:54] for every page load? [02:54] 22.6 KB of other JavaScript [02:54] ajmitch, yes [02:54] well, this is just one particular translation page that has many suggestions [02:54] but the JavaScript is loaded on every page [02:54] across Launchpad [02:55] hence why I bookmark certain urls to avoid the pain of navigation & waiting [02:55] it does feel quite heavy at times [02:56] 348 KB altogether [02:56] wowser [03:10] Can you do something like making the browser cache the JS, or split MochiKit up into smaller libraries, and only load the necessary ones? [03:11] caching+https don't always play nice [03:11] you should have seen the (pre-malone) ubuntu bugzilla [03:11] 1MB of javascript on each page load [03:11] Fujitsu: its a browser isse [03:11] *issue* [03:31] New bug: #43893 in malone "Allow product-/package-specific bug-reporting guidelines" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43893 [04:01] Fujitsu, it's mostly our fault for doing HTTPS, and partly browsers' fault for being too jittery about caching HTTPS stuff [04:01] and partly also our fault for sending the whole of MochiKit each time, yes [04:02] It'd be nice if you could send the images/JS over HTTP without the browser complaining. === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad [04:21] Fujitsu, that's easily done, just send the HTML over HTTP too :-) [04:22] I think probably we're greatly overusing HTTPS === Bhaskar [n=Bhaskar@202.79.37.177] has joined #launchpad === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.16.221.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [05:19] thumper: so, I just had a look on the NZ lenovo website. The Thinkpad X60 2.0GHz is 850 AUD cheaper in NZ. [05:20] jml: you wanting me to get it for you? [05:21] thumper: I'm quite tempted to ask. [05:21] if I ship it to AU though, it'll get taxed [05:21] you'll have to come for a visit [05:22] jml: I registered 15 specs for lp-bzr this morning [05:22] thumper: cool. [05:22] some of which jumped out at me saying "jml can do this" [05:22] thumper: lots of reading for me tomorrow then? [05:22] heh heh [05:22] none of them have wiki pages yet [05:23] just place holders for work that I've identified [05:23] or had been identified before and no one had written down [05:25] thumper: I like the look of a lot of them :) [05:26] Fujitsu: something to work towards anyway [05:27] jml: my desktop just fubar'ed [05:28] thumper: what happened? [05:28] jml: Stops at "Memory Testi" and nothing more :( [05:28] thumper: ouch [05:28] things where hanging so I rebooted [05:28] and got that [05:28] so off to buy some clean memory tomorrow [05:28] I'm hoping that's all it is [05:38] Can someone please take a look at OOPS-408C267? A timeout seems to occur when attempting to list branches for any product. [05:38] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/408C267 [05:41] Indeed, any branch listing at all (even in a bug) fails. [05:43] Fujitsu: our dba is doing some maintenance which will be causing these timeouts [05:44] OK, would be nice to have something nicer than timeout errors in such a situation. === thumper shugs === thumper shrugs [05:46] yeah [05:52] Fujitsu: the maintenance is being done to fix some timeout errors. [05:52] I note that the timeouts I mentioned are no longer, which is good. === Trickser [n=sergio@client0496.vpn.uni-saarland.de] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad === stu1 is now known as stub === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-152-141.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@pub082136116166.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [08:27] Hobbsee, I found the "Indicate bug" button you were talking about, so I've updated bug 84339 to mention it [08:27] Malone bug 84339 in malone "+choose-affected-product title and heading need rewriting" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84339 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) [08:28] mpt: cool :) that the "mark the bug as affecting upstream" section, whcih is unclear? [08:28] yes [08:28] cool :) [08:35] pfff [08:35] New bug: #84674 in malone "Disappearance of /sbin/lrm-video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84674 [08:37] not sure if bug 42480 isn't really about "hard to report a bug on a ubuntu package", rather than "hard to file bug on non-malone upstream" [08:37] Malone bug 42480 in malone "Report a bug about product that doesn't use Malone should include link to product's official bug tracker" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42480 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko) [08:38] ddaa, that's indeed a possibility [08:38] foolswisdom might not even remember any more :-) === AMREENA [n=amreena@203.135.44.160] has joined #launchpad [08:46] anyone here [08:46] AMREENA: heaps here [08:47] wat ? [08:47] u mean part the channel [08:47] AMREENA: many people here just waiting for your questions [08:47] :) [08:48] ok [08:48] i also want to know something about UBUNTU [08:49] AMREENA: probably best to ask on #ubuntu [08:50] ok thankyou === AMREENA [n=amreena@203.135.44.160] has left #launchpad [] === mrevell [n=matthew@82-47-80-7.stb.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-3-204.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@adsl-70-132-3-204.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@dslb-084-057-101-122.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #launchpad === shawarma [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #launchpad [09:44] review meeting in 16 [09:45] New bug: #84686 in launchpad-bazaar "run supermirror from "make run"" [Low,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84686 [09:45] lifeless: that's an hour early, isn't it? [09:45] its been straight after the bzr meeting for $yonks [09:45] unless that has moved ? [09:46] lifeless: the bzr meeting moved back an hour [09:46] oh [09:46] in 1hr16 then [09:46] thanks! [09:47] You're welcome :) === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-152-141.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [09:59] mrevell, http://vulcano.mine.nu/blog/index.php/2007/02/11/launchpad-teams/ [09:59] mpt: thanks [10:01] mpt: Hmm, if ever there were a "Dear Lazyweb..." post :) === CodeDragon [n=None@195.134.12.229] has joined #launchpad === CodeDragon is now known as CodeDragon|Worki === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad [10:30] mrevell, what do you mean? [10:31] mpt: The post you gave me a link to basically says, "Will someone please explain x and y about Launchpad?" Rather than directly asking people who could answer, it's a broadcast question to the web. On a more serious note, that suggests it's not so easy to find out how to contact the Launchpad team. [10:32] mrevell: There have been a few such posts lately (one from Christer Edwards, for example). [10:33] mrevell, it could mean several other things [10:33] e.g. thinking that the Launchpad team won't be responsive [10:33] or thinking that other people will provide better answers [10:33] mpt: sure, so these are things I need to address on the team's behalf. [10:34] Fujitsu: Yeah, it's all a good sign that we (the LP team) need to explain ourselves more effectively to the community. [10:35] The tours should help with that, I think [10:37] (Coincidentally, the most recent post on lazyweb.org is about Ubuntu) [10:40] mpt: I think the tours will help give an overview of what Launchpad is for and how it can help people, certainly. I must ping static, as he's working on the content for the tours atm. === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [10:57] review team meeting in 3 minutes [11:00] review team meeting [11:00] == Agenda == [11:00] * Roll call [11:00] * Next meeting [11:00] * Queue status. [11:01] spiv: ? [11:01] hi [11:01] BjornT: ? [11:01] hi [11:01] SteveA: ? [11:01] hi [11:02] BjornT: you want to talk about the next meeting time / [11:02] ? [11:02] well, i was mainly wondering if you've considered changing the meeting time? [11:03] given that currently two of the reviewers are never able to attend, it might be worth changing it [11:03] lifeless: hi [11:03] do you have a suggested time ? [11:04] if I go later, I lose a days work due to being overly tired the next day [11:04] personal thing: I *dont* sleep in unless actually ill [11:04] even though it's not possible to find a time when everybody will be able to attend, it can be good to move the meeting from time to time [11:04] we can consider rotating it [11:04] like some ubuntu meetings do [11:05] lifeless: no, i don't have any suggestion, i'm not sure when is suitable for everyone. [11:05] New bug: #84694 in launchpad-bazaar "registering bzr upstream for series is difficult" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84694 [11:05] I have a suggestion [11:05] so we have the details on the https://launchpad.canonical.com/ReviewerMeetingAgenda?action=raw page [11:05] reviewing is very important to our processes [11:05] and a review team meeting can be short [11:05] so let's have two per week [11:05] putting that into a calendar should give a feel for slots [11:05] the main point of the meeting is to check reviewers are keeping up effectively [11:05] if someone or some people can attend both [11:05] that will be best [11:06] and they will end up being shorter [11:06] what do you think? [11:06] well, they wont be shorter I think, but I'm happy with the time involved to do two meetings === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [11:06] lifeless: you'd go to just one [11:06] SteveA: I didn't mean to imply it was solely my time I was concerned about [11:06] yeah, two meetings a week would work. the meetings are rather short anyway, so it wouldn't hurt. [11:07] SteveA: I was meaning the time cost for whoever ended up being the gateway [11:07] SteveA: that said, I can do the us evening time slot easily too, so it might be me [11:08] tell you guys what, I'll put the windows we have into a calendar and see what drops out [11:08] so, now that the lpbzr meeting is earlier [11:08] how about we move this meeting 1hr earlier [11:08] and then organise a later US-tz one [11:09] fine by me [11:09] works for me. [11:09] but lets get the other one locked in before changing - its currently AIUI 0900 in sao carlos that this meeting occurs [11:09] (1000 UTC, and they are one hour behind at the moment) [11:10] lifeless: then, why are there no brazilians here [11:10] SteveA: I don't know [11:10] it's 0800 in sao carlos, isn't it? [11:10] it is [11:10] I just asked google === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [11:11] SteveA: ah [11:11] so, next, queue status [11:12] its a pity jamesh isn't here, as hes lagging the most in review freshness [11:12] he's sprinting [11:12] when does he finish ? [11:13] (he has 3 very small branches in his queue, pending for 14 to 59 days). I think that this is rather bad [11:14] he ought to be able to do small branches this week [11:16] I'll send him a nag mail [11:16] if he can't, we have capacity to reallocate, but they need doing one way or the other [11:16] ok. cc kiko, so kiko can help manage his time commitments while he's in brasil [11:17] sure [11:17] other than that, the review queue is quite good. [11:17] way down from its choke period a fortnight back [11:17] GOOD WORK! [11:18] theres four branches @ 3 days (compensating for the weekend). of those, two are conflicted [11:18] so, only 2 can be reviewed, and those are small [11:18] both with spiv [11:18] spiv: you think you can get those knocked over tomorrow ? [11:18] lifeless: I'm sure I can. [11:19] ok. [11:19] any new business? you guys generally ok with review load at the moment ? [11:20] i'm ok [11:20] Yeah, I'm ok. Branches have been pretty small. [11:21] cool, meeting over in 5 [11:21] 4 [11:21] Branches under 300 lines are good, and should be encouraged :) [11:21] 3 [11:21] 2 [11:22] 1 [11:22] 0 [11:22] danke for attending === spiv -> dinner === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.181.171.131] has joined #launchpad === jelmer is now known as ctrlsoft === adrigen [n=adrigen@218-214-68-125.people.net.au] has joined #launchpad === carlos_ [n=carlos@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [11:52] morning === carlos_ is now known as carlos === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [11:58] New bug: #84680 in launchpad "The "Working on" portlet shouldn't include duplicate bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84680 === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === CodeDragon|Worki is now known as CodeDragon|Lunch === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [12:20] good morning ! [12:25] morning [12:27] morning @ 10.27pm! === ddaa -> lunch === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad === kiko_ [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:55] New bug: #48771 in malone "It should be possible to delete attachments" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48771 === krau [n=cktakaha@200.184.118.132] has joined #launchpad === jelmer [n=jelmer@219pc197.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [01:20] New bug: #84711 in malone "long words in bug titles make bug listings very wide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84711 === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db4451d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [01:35] SteveA: new menu looks super - thanks! [01:35] mpt: any idea why the new flat app graphics aren't on beta.lp.n? [01:35] thumper: nice work on the code home page portlets [01:36] just need a branch icon for the listings [01:36] also, branches with titles should still include the product name [01:36] so you get: [01:36] man-db: Development branch [01:37] rather than just: Development branch [01:37] this is only of course important if the product is not implicit in the context [01:37] so, for example, you don't need it in places where you a listing the branches for a particular product [01:37] but you do need it in general portlets [01:38] for example, on the code home page, where the portlets are describing branches from *all* products [01:38] will send this by email in case you don't read scrollback. === jelmer [n=jelmer@219pc197.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #launchpad === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:26] ahoy there [02:27] hey kiko! [02:27] I am now an edgy person [02:27] kiko: you should be a feisty person ;) [02:27] soon! === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [02:40] New bug: #84719 in malone "Live CD crashes/gets into an endlsess loop on shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84719 === bac [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === bac is now known as BradC === mrevell_ [n=matthew@82-47-80-7.stb.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [03:05] mrevell_: hey [03:05] hi jenda [03:05] PM? 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What does it take to get a new upstream bugtracker registered? === tsmithe [n=tsmithe@unaffiliated/tsmithe] has joined #launchpad [05:27] hi [05:28] i'm trying to link the cinelerra-cv product to the upstream bugzilla tracker. when trying to choose, there is a list... but not cinelerra... is it not possible to have a generic "bugzilla" option, where you fill in the details yourself? [05:48] If I search for bugs `newest first', under what circumstances might the bug numbers not be strictly decreasing down the listing ? === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #launchpad === thianpa [n=My@unaffiliated/thianpa] has joined #launchpad [05:56] iwj: I think there is some weirdness due to tasks there, like it might count the date when a new task has been opened [05:56] seb128: Hmm. === barry [n=barry@216-15-33-253.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@d66-183-122-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [06:19] jam, tsmithe: it's not easy to find, but you can register a new upstream bugtracker at https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/+newbugtracker [06:19] tsmithe: but i agree, it should be easier to register a new tracker while choosing one. [06:20] iwj: when we've done bug imports, we've kept the old bug submission dates [06:20] iwj: so for Ubuntu bugs, id order is not quite the same as datecreated order, since some bugs were filed in Launchpad before the bugzilla.ubuntu.com migration === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch [06:27] thanks for the heads up BjornT === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-228.unknown-dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@62.54.66.8] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [07:09] jamesh: Mmm. I think seb128's reply is to the point in this case though. Thanks. === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [07:19] iwj: yeah. The "datecreated" orderby does sort on the bugtask's datecreated which is not the same as the bug's datecreated for subsequent bug tasks [07:19] iwj: I agree that it'd be nicer if it sorted on the bug's date created though === marcus_notebook [n=mholthau@pub082136116166.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad [07:21] I think it's OK, but it was just a bit confusing. === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl5402A186.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #launchpad [07:51] sudden flood of applications to join launchpad-beta-testers... anybody know why? is there a blog somewhere about it? [07:52] mrevell sent an email to launchpad-users === carlos [n=carlos@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [07:53] sabdfl: SteveA and I had a call on Friday following your call and we agreed to invite subscribers to launchpad-users. [07:53] sabdfl: Good response so far :) === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [07:57] mrevell: awesome :-) [08:09] og's blog post probably publicised it too [08:10] and also joey's presentation [08:16] how can i get a new bug tracker registered in launchpad? [08:18] there are instructions on the bug tracker page iirc [08:18] oh... really? === mdke looks [08:19] "Register bug tracker" [08:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers [08:20] ooh [08:20] cool [08:20] thanks [08:25] lotof bugs in that url [08:26] crap, I didn't even know trac was supported === danilos [n=danilo@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === pygi [n=mario@89-172-252-236.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #launchpad [08:28] mrevell, poke === shawn___ [n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com] has joined #launchpad [08:46] radix, it's only half supported. why don't you help me write support for it? [08:47] kiko: is the same code used for migrations from trac? [08:47] radix, no. [08:47] kiko: oh. then I guess I have less incentive :) [08:47] radix, what do you want to migrate over? [08:47] kiko: Twisted :) (not to say that's going to happen any time soon) [08:48] if it's not happening any time soon, then maybe we should write support for it instead, first? === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.16.221.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-4-87.25-151.libero.it] has joined #launchpad [09:17] pygi: Hey - sorry for the delay, been having dinner === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #launchpad [09:18] mrevell, no problem at all :) [09:18] mrevell, I already planned to sign up for the list, just couldn't get the time [09:19] mrevell, did so now, and will post something in next couple of days [09:19] pygi: cool :) Thanks. Don't feel any pressure to post, but if you do have feedback, I know the team would find it very useful [09:20] mrevell, yup, have some feedback (as always, hehe) [09:20] pygi: cool, it's always welcome :) [09:21] feels fresh and much better to use [09:23] mrevell, I found that "THIS LIST IS NOT FOR REQUESTING CD'S" funny tho :) [09:23] yes haha /me too [09:23] pygi: Yes, in the past a number of people have signed up to launchpad-users to request CDs. I think that in the future we should see less of that, though, as we make it easier to go through the ShipIt sign-up. [09:24] is the list moderated? or is it because i failed to sign up properly? === czajkowski [n=cypher@skynet.skynet.ie] has joined #launchpad [09:24] mrevell: just the person :) [09:25] czajkowski: hello! === Cillian [n=Cillian@86.149.0.165] has joined #launchpad [09:25] Cillian: hello to you too :) [09:25] :) [09:25] wow, is this the, "Come meet Matthew in #launchpad" night? :) [09:26] Yup [09:26] mrevell: if you look for me in #skycon... leaving a message works wonders :) [09:26] mrevell, :-D [09:26] mrevell: pretty much, you werent in lugradio [09:26] czajkowski: Yes, sorry, I got distracted and left you with a ping but nothing else. Hang on, I'll take this to #skycon === czajkowski [n=cypher@skynet.skynet.ie] has left #launchpad [] [09:30] mrevell, well thanks, I won't bug anymore [09:30] pygi: Hey - you're not bugging me :) [09:30] pygi: It's great to have your feedback, so if there's anything you need, let me know. [09:32] mrevell, there is, but no one will listen, so I'll be silent :) === pygi hides [09:35] hummm. i just killed launchpad (normal launchpad) === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #launchpad [09:36] trying to register a spec where the name has been taken, firefox dies, go back to the product, notice the spec is there, try and edit details, launchpad integrityerror [09:36] :-D [09:36] seems reproducible... [09:36] oops :P [09:36] file a bug :P [09:37] sorry mrevell :) [09:37] sorry, been afk [09:37] ^^ === mrevell reads up [09:43] tsmithe: ooh, right, yeha, if you could file a bug, that'd be great [09:43] ok :) [09:43] on the launchpad product? [09:44] erm === Spads [n=spacehob@62.54.66.12] has joined #launchpad [09:46] tsmithe: it's likely to be a known problem. if it's not it'll show up on the error logs tomorrow. thanks for the heads up anyway. [09:47] so should i file or not? [09:48] matsubara: thanks [09:49] tsmithe: what did you change when you tried to edit the details? [09:49] milestone [09:51] tsmithe: was it a product spec that you tried to target against a ubuntu milestone? [09:51] hd [09:51] *yes [09:51] (stupid fingers) [09:53] tsmithe: it's bug 59971 then [09:53] Malone bug 59971 in blueprint "Target a product specification to a distribution milestone triggers a DB constraint" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59971 - Assigned to Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) [09:53] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinelerra-cv/+spec/cinelerra-review <- that spec already exists on ubuntustudio product. i was trying to set it to have milestone for feisty [09:53] hum [09:53] really? [09:53] i managed with the spec on ubuntustudio [09:53] wait no [09:53] thanks ubugtu :-) [09:54] tsmithe: I'm pretty sure it is. the select box shouldn't display the ubuntu milestones as valid targets [09:54] yes - they are displayed. and although i thought it had succeeded in setting it, it appears that it hasn't [09:54] and when i try now, i get an integrityerror :) [09:55] so, yes, matsubara, thanks :_ [09:55] *:) [10:00] mrevell, tsmithe: you're welcome. [10:03] :) [10:05] moin [10:05] hey lifeless [10:09] how do I make a team into a translation group? === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad [10:14] static, ubuntu LoCo team? [10:15] if so, your team needs to get approved by a council (forgot which one, been a while since I was involved) [10:15] pygi: I just realized I probably don't need to do this. Was just trying to figure out how to allow a team to do translations for an upstream product [10:15] static, ah! [10:15] static, just upload a template (pot) and let people translate [10:16] pygi: thanks! [10:16] static, yw === Spads_ [n=spacehob@62.54.66.17] has joined #launchpad [10:18] static: hi [10:18] hey carlos [10:18] static: jamesh told me that you have some question about Rosetta and translation groups [10:19] carlos: yes, I was just confused about when a translation group was needed. I was trying to set up an upstream product to be able to do translations, and I'm a bit confused about the difference between a team and a translation group [10:20] static: translationgroup is a way to link teams with languages [10:20] carlos: aha! ok, I don't need one then [10:22] static: you only need it if you want more fine grained privileges (it's from danilo) [10:23] it's not from me [10:23] :) === mdz [n=mdz@cpe-76-173-8-128.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === shawn___ [n=shawn@netblock-68-183-69-197.dslextreme.com] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-200-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === jml_ is now known as jml [10:50] wow, is launchpad-users moderated even for subscribers? === medders_ [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] has joined #launchpad [10:57] radix, it appears so [11:05] kiko would know why - i seem to recall some discussion about this, and a lot of spam [11:05] might be possible to review it now that we have decent spam filtering [11:06] yes - that would be nice === tsmithe wishes they would get better spam filtering on alsa-devel [11:07] i must say, the ubuntu lists have *very* good spam filters [11:07] i didn't appreciate it until i came across alsa-devel [11:09] It was switched to first-post moderation around the end of November, AFAICR. [11:09] (to stop all the `GIVE ME CDs' posts) [11:09] why to launchpad-users, though? [11:09] Who knows. [11:09] But there were lots of them. [11:09] what makes people choose that? it's crazy! [11:09] i'm sure [11:10] tsmithe, didn't you knew people are usually crazy? :) [11:10] but first post - that's ok. i've done mine now, so i'm happy :) [11:10] pygi, i did, actually. i'm probably included in that ;) [11:17] lifeless, PQM has apparently been processing the same branch for the past 13 hours or so [11:18] stub disabled it [11:18] Is it re-enabled now? [11:18] I have done so [11:18] ok, thanks [11:18] np [11:19] Fujitsu, tsmithe, we also get many bugs reported about Launchpad which are actually about Ubuntu [11:19] mpt: I noticed... Any idea why? [11:19] Work out why that happens, and I'll send you a chocolate fish [11:20] Heh. [11:20] mpt, ah ok. i'd like that chocolate fish. better than normal fish, which i hate ;) [11:25] sabdfl, radix: that sounds like it's broken. it should be moderated for unsubscribed users, but not for subscribed ones. [11:30] kiko, ok. good to hear that it's known :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad [12:01] Gooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [12:03] morning mpt!!! === mpt hugs Hobbsee [12:03] hi mpt === Hobbsee hugs mpt back :D === mpt hugs LaserJock [12:03] Not enough hugs in this channel === Fujitsu grabs some hugs and throws them into the channel. === LaserJock hugs mpt === Hobbsee group hugs mpt, LaserJock, and Fujitsu, and finds her arms are too short. [12:05] http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41500000/jpg/_41500270_mrtickle.jpg === Fujitsu hands Hobbsee some arm-extensions, and hugs her back. === pygi [n=mario@89-172-252-236.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [12:05] hehe [12:07] SteveA, are you available to talk about brilliant branching? [12:07] hmm, I guess not === mpt will get up earlier tomorrow [12:11] New bug: #84800 in malone "no way to jump to a bug from frontpage of beta UI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84800 === jml drafts a spec: more-channel-hugs [12:11] hehe [12:15] brilliant branching?