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The /topic made me chuckle. === null_ [n=null@60-241-43-186.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman_ is now known as Gman [04:11] Mez: This probably isn't the best channel to be pinging me about Debian sponsorship. :) [04:11] infinity, lol - nvm now anyways :D got my other sponsor on the ... blower [04:12] pitti: ping [04:12] pitti isnt here [04:12] grr ;) [04:12] whats the -security process for ubuntu these days ? [04:12] Hey infinity, haven't seen you around in a while. [04:13] Fujitsu: Been avoiding random prattle on IRC, s'all. [04:13] Mez: Pretty much the same as it always was. [04:13] infinity, I've never gone through that process :P where can i find info ? :P [04:14] Mez: Is this for a universe security update? [04:14] infinity, multiverse === alephant [n=cmd@c-24-3-52-93.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["BOOM!!"] [04:19] is a DNS lookup time of 7ms fast or slow? [04:19] what should I typically expect? === Shrews [n=shrews@rrcs-24-199-211-110.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong wonders if he should be OpenDNS'ing === Shrews [n=shrews@rrcs-24-199-211-110.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [04:23] infinity: can you do that magical rebuild give-back thingie on gpac? [04:23] (it seems like ia64 xulrunner is installable again [04:25] Mez: Should be more or less the same process for anything. You'll want to talk to pitti or kees to get approval for the upload (and to let us know that it's on its way), then they can inform you of where you're uploading to. [04:26] Mez: In theory, I can do the approval too, but I trust pitti and kees to make the time to properly go over your upload (and walk you through the process), while I don't trust myself to do anything outside of what I'm currently doing. [04:26] infinity, lol... Well it's a security update for a CVE (which was just posted in debian, and I'm working on doing the seurity updates for that!) [04:30] keescook, you around (scrollback) === _ion [i=johan@kiviniemi.name] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kro [n=user@pool-72-84-46-79.clrkwv.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.16.221.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ is now known as asac [05:33] morning [05:33] Hi fabbione. === nags [n=nags@125.22.6.46] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-14-44.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:52] hiya Mez. cool, yeah, saw that update go by on #debian-security, but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. If you've got a tested debdiff for it, I can easily get it built and uploaded. [06:52] thought pitti will be awake before me, I'm about to go to bed. === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:01] Mez: also, do you have a reproducer I can test with? (if so, just email me directly) === dilinger [n=dilinger@146-115-126-156.c3-0.arl-ubr1.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:02] apeirophobia - A fear of infinity [07:02] dilinger: ! [07:02] fabbione: hiya :) [07:02] dilinger: sup dude? [07:03] keescook: night man :) [07:03] not much. just was looking through http://www.islandnet.com/~egbird/dict/a.htm [07:03] g'night fabbione [07:03] and figured infinity should know that there's a proper word to describe the fear of him [07:03] if he didn't already [07:05] fabbione: how's life? you back to work? [07:06] dilinger: i didn't stop for a while actually :) only had a short break for Xmas, but i am heading off for vacation next week === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:26] dilinger: Cute. [07:33] infinity: aw shucks, thanks. you're not my type, though. [07:33] dilinger: That's not what you were screaming in that hotel room in Sydney... === marilize [n=marilize@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:34] you promised never to speak of that night [07:34] rofl [07:34] aha [07:35] infinity: feel like processing bug #81598 ? (missing to accept into updates) [07:35] Malone bug 81598 in lvm2 "[SRU] lvm2 check if device is md is broken on big endian machines" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81598 [07:35] I'd be thrilled. [07:35] infinity: i would love your processing :) [07:36] That sounds filthy. [07:36] infinity: i know you love when i talk dirty to you ;) [07:36] heh. dilinger is here. hooray. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:41] fabbione: Processed. [07:44] infinity: danke === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:48] Good morning === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A9447B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-30-238.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75BF3.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:27] good morning [08:33] hey dholbach [08:34] hey dholbach, fabbione! [08:34] hey fabbione [08:34] hi Hobbsee [08:34] /nick DrownedWaterRat === pitti hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee hugs pitti :) [08:34] hey pitti :) === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:45] morning Daniel, Fabio, Sarah, Martin === tfheen yawns. [08:46] morning all! [08:49] hey tfheen! === Hobbsee drops icecubes down tfheen's back [08:49] hey tepsipakki :) [08:50] tepsipakki: that X patch got into the feisty archives :) [08:50] tepsipakki: my machine hasnt crashed today :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] Hobbsee: yes I saw that. It isn't in 7.2 so they fixed it in some other way (seems that the first chunk of that patch _is_ applied) === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.6.62] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] tepsipakki: right. cool === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sky_walkie [n=hrdlo@193.85.244.121] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] fabbione: got a moment? [09:13] mdke: yes [09:13] fabbione: cool. you're the right person to ask about server related things? [09:13] mdke: it depends what you need to know [09:13] fabbione: ok, I'll try [09:14] fabbione: the docteam prepares a server guide (preview is here - http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html), much of which is shipped in ubuntu-docs for desktop users. I wanted to know whether you'd be interested in us making a standalone package which might be seeded in the server install [09:14] I sent an email to -server a few weeks back but it never got moderated [09:15] mdke: up to the docteam.. it makes no diff to me [09:15] mdke: i am ok with whatever decision you take [09:15] fabbione: we'd like to === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@207.210-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:15] mdke: ok.. go ahead and do it then.. [09:16] fabbione: we'll try and do a binary like ubuntu-serverguide from the ubuntu-docs source, if that makes sense to you [09:16] mdke: sounds fine to me [09:16] great, thanks. I'll let you know when it's done [09:16] mdke: have it on html instead of source? [09:16] mdke: once you are done, just find somebody to seed it [09:16] jsgotangco: html yes [09:16] fabbione: great [09:18] maybe txt too [09:18] man page? [09:18] cool === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nuscly [n=nuscly@29-231.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra_ [n=zdra@110.235-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thom [n=thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bhale [n=bhale@brandonhale.us] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@dslb-084-057-101-122.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@adsl-156-66-182.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shawarma [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:33] mjg59: I imported your hal change to the bzr repo; please use that for uploading === macd [n=d@adsl-156-66-182.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEE6E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@vds456.sivit.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [n=fabio@ubuntu/member/thesaltydog] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A671D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [n=fabio@ubuntu/member/thesaltydog] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@80.100-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:53] somehow my 2nd port on the kvm is unhappy and keeps repeating certain keyboard/mouse signals for some reason: [ 8101.304614] psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout [09:53] and this is the 2nd kvm i'm unhappy with [09:53] does somebody have similar experiences and knows how to 'fix it'? [09:54] dholbach: buy a better kvm :(( [09:55] this wasn't a cheap one [09:55] oh well [09:55] since my amd64 broke on saturday, I might as well unplug the kvm for now :-( [09:55] dholbach: i did try several.. i had to wait for a really expensive one to be donated [09:55] i hate hardware [09:55] unfortunatly it's a sad truth === dholbach goes to buy a new amd64 today [09:56] amd dropped prices right on time, then ;) [09:58] still it was a depressing saturday [09:58] first I get strange ? ?? ?? ??? owner/permissions on files, then decide to backup and buy a new disk, add the new disk and the damned piece of hardware doesn't start anymore === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:00] isnt there *still* a kernel bug with respect to kvm switch boxes? [10:00] which stops switching working, loses mouse etc [10:01] that aside, can anyone tell me where the changelogs that you see in update manager are kept? i.e. if someone wants to read those after they have upgraded, to see what was upgraded by reading all those change logs (and thus learn what new features/fixes are in) can they do that using a standard text editor? === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:03] popey: changelogs.ubuntu.com === Gman is now known as GmanAFK [10:06] dholbach: my kvm is from "aten" and works quite well === TuxCrafte1 [n=jelle@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] popey: synaptic has a feature to download the changelogs for you (aptitude as well) - otherwise what Hobbsee said === rawler [n=ulrik@c-584ce155.98-2-64736c13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:08] heya [10:08] for packages that have already been installed? [10:08] i.e. after the upgrade [10:08] eric3 seems to be broken in Feisty [10:08] popey: /usr/share/doc/*/changelog.Debian.gz [10:08] or maybe it's the python-qt-bindings.. [10:09] rawler: ho'ws it broken? [10:09] eric3 doesnt exist in feisty [10:09] I get unresolved symbols when i try to start it.. [10:09] thanks tepsipakki mvo, Hobbsee [10:09] huh? doesn't exist? [10:09] hello, i have a question I have a VIA EN12000E motherboard with xubuntu 6.10. The system is unstable when I start a program sometimes the everything total freezes and I need to press the reset button. I have been trying to debug this problem but with no succes. I need help. with a total checklist how to debug my problem. [10:09] TuxCrafte1: support is in #ubuntu [10:10] well, it's the "eric"-package, but entering a channel saying "eric is broken" might easily be misunderstood.. ;) [10:10] Hobbsee: this is the devel chanel correct? I have a devel question [10:10] rawler: ah. see if there's a bug in debian. also, see #ubuntu+1 [10:10] TuxCrafte1: it is, yes [10:10] Hobsee: *ahh* thanks.. :) [10:11] rawler: tab completion is your friend, btw. [10:11] rawler: we sync that straight from debian [10:11] !debug [10:11] TuxCrafte1: try [20:11] For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures [10:12] rawler: unresolved symbols such as? [10:12] ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/qtcanvas.so: undefined symbol: PenE4QPen [10:12] /usr/bin/python: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/light.so: undefined symbol: _ZN18QMetaObjectCleanUpD1Ev [10:13] Hobbsee: I need some more help. I am pretty familiar with debugging. But can't find any logs of the froze system problem [10:14] tfheen, Hobbsee, might of course be something broken in my setup as well, but I can't really see what.. [10:15] rawler: hmm, it wasn't what I thought it was, at least. [10:16] oh, what did you think? The QSize-problem? [10:16] no; there's a bug in python somewhere which causes python 2.4 to try to import 2.5 modules [10:17] tfheen: Would that cause API version warnings? [10:17] tfheen: interesting anything I can do to debug? [10:17] Fujitsu: it can cause unresolved symbols at least. [10:18] 'causes I was packaging a python module a couple of days back, and it appeared that 2.4 was loading the 2.5 modules (judging by the API version warning). I presumed it was my fault somehow. [10:18] rawler: it seems to start for me at least; which architecture are you on? [10:18] x86 [10:19] rawler: amd64 here, so it might be specific to i386 then. [10:19] Hobbsee: I run these log systems klogd bootlogd sysklogd are there some more I can use to try to find the program? === lmanul [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:19] one interesting observation; installing the python-kde bindings removed the second undefined symbol-part, but instead gave me a segfault.. [10:20] tfheen: ^^ === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:21] tfheen: well, actually it's a amd64 host, but running 386 ubuntu, if that helps.. [10:22] rawler: doesn't help, no. [10:22] Starts for me on i386. === jinty [n=jinty@64.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TuxCrafte1 [n=jelle@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-59-176.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7F3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TuxCrafte1 [n=jelle@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:40] pci=routeirq what is the function of this boot option [10:40] TuxCrafte1: This isn't a support channel. [10:41] Fujitsu: sorry but they do not now the answer on #ubuntu and #ubunt-bugs [10:42] TuxCrafte1: that doesn't make this channel a support channel [10:43] tfheen: do you have python-kde installed? [10:43] Treenaks: thats true i am sorry [10:43] TuxCrafte1: I must concur with Treenaks. [10:43] bye [10:43] rawler: no. === TuxCrafte1 [n=jelle@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:44] hehe, this is funny.. "sudo apt-get remove python-qt && sudo apt-get install eric" did the trick.. [10:44] spooky [10:45] rawler: something which was slightly wedged on your system, then. :-/ [10:45] I wonder why.. I certainly have not been fiddling with those files, I installed eric to start learning Python.. :D [10:46] well, well.. not all is rotten in the state of denmark.. :) === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkamppeter [n=till@bl7-107-36.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] pitti: Oh, crap, sorry [11:27] mjg59: no worries, I just wanted to point out the bzr === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] pitti: libwps ping [11:38] doko: hi [11:39] pitti: needs to be approved for main [11:39] doko: as I said, the source package is an utter mess, I'll dig through it [11:39] pitti: hmm, didn't you want to mark this as "later"? === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] erm, 'mark later'? === pitti reviews now === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] hey heno [11:42] hey pitti [11:44] doko: do you have some testing feedback for this lib? [11:46] omfg... why do closed source people have to be so confusing [11:47] Mez: ? [11:47] damned rar CVE [11:47] pitti: the OOo build succeeds, the libwps tests succeeds, but I don't have a works document. === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-100-40.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee is still amazed that her machine hasnt crashed yet today... [11:48] tepsipakki: that fix sure works! === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:51] doko: but at least .odt -> .wps -> .odt works? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos_ [n=carlos@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:52] pitti: if this works, this doesn't use the new libwps, but the old binfilter; for libwps only an import filter is added === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:53] are there any buildd admins here? [11:53] if so, can someone poke rar to build for amd64, it builds under that now === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:56] I have the feeling that something is not correct with the building and archiving servers [11:56] 1. "apt-get update" did not load anything new fo three days [11:57] what mirror are you using? [11:57] 2. For all these three days the mirror fr.ubuntu.com is missin some Python packages ("apt-get dist-upgrade" fails on that) [11:57] That's simply a problem with the fr mirror. === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] tkamppeter: change mirror [11:59] 3. foomatic-db-20070207-0ubuntu2 was uploaded and never reached the server (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foomatic-db), same for last foomatic-db-hpijs [11:59] seb128, will change it, seems that the french guys have given up maintaining it. [12:00] doko: hm, I goggled a bit, couldn't find a demo .wps either [12:00] I wonder whether there is someone on a Windows box where we could grab a .wps [12:00] hi tkamppeter [12:02] hi pitti === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:12] seb128, thanks, the spanish mirror (es.) updated my system without problems. [12:12] tkamppeter: np [12:12] BenC: if you want the new kernel in for herd 4, please upload new -meta ASAP. [12:13] could we get apport fixed for herd4? [12:13] sure, we're not frozen until tomorrow. [12:13] good ;) === cjwatson evilly wonders if he can sneak man-db 2.4.4 past UVF [12:14] cjwatson: any interesting changes we want? [12:15] bug fixes, but I'm mostly kidding, the majority of it is in our package already === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:18] pitti, doko, what is the state of the upload of the last foomatic-db and foomatic-db-hpijs packages? === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-8-108.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] hey guys, do you know why the .20-7-generic-386 kernel is not in the repos, but it has built fine? [12:21] build log: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/300654 [12:21] pochu: I just accepted it. [12:21] it was in binary new, [12:21] tfheen: ok, thanks :) then we should just wait a little, right? [12:22] tkamppeter: not sure, it's not in the archive yet? [12:22] pochu: yep [12:22] tkamppeter: foomatic-db was uploaded by pitti, will do foomatic-db-hpijs today [12:22] pochu: correct. It'll be published in an hour or so. [12:22] well, ty :) [12:26] tfheen, any reason rar hasnt hit the archive, but unrar has ? [12:27] Mez: which version, which suite, which pocket? [12:27] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/rar/1:3.7b1-0ubuntu11 [12:27] so 1:3.7b1-0ubuntu11, feisty, multiverse [12:28] rar | 1:3.7b1-0ubuntu11 | feisty/multiverse | source, i386 [12:28] seems to be there? [12:28] tfheen, weird, I just did an update, and it#s pulling unrar, but not rar [12:28] possibly a mirror issue then ? [12:28] (though it's using archive.ubuntu.com) [12:29] tfheen: what are you using to generate that output, btw? [12:29] Hobbsee: madison-lite [12:29] Mez: your sources.list could be incorrect [12:29] cjwatson, then why would it be pulling the new unrar version, which is in the same place ? [12:29] Hobbsee: ^-- it's a package in the archive, but you need to be running it on a system with at least a mirror of dists/ [12:29] Mez: *shrug* no idea [12:29] cjwatson: right [12:30] Mez: unless you're on non-i386 === Mez just figured it out [12:30] Mez: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/r/rar/ certainly has the binary. [12:30] rar's only available on i386, unrar's there for other architectures too [12:30] I dont have rar installed [12:30] Hobbsee: output of apt-cache madison is similar, I believe [12:30] cjwatson: yes, it's similar. [12:31] cjwatson: doesnt tell me which arches it's on, etc [12:31] cjwatson, rar *should* be available on amd64 too... but it's not being built on that arch for some reason === Hobbsee uses that most of the time [12:31] right, it can't because it's only looking at your apt cache [12:31] rar: i386 # shareware for i386 only [12:31] cjwatson, ok, so that needs updating, but we got it to build and run on amd64 [12:31] Mez: mail elmo, lamont, and/or infinity if Packages-arch-specific needs to be changed === pkl_ [n=phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] Package: rar [12:32] Architecture: i386 amd64 [12:33] Mez: unrar exists on amd64 (and is usually enough :) ) [12:33] pitti, foomatic-db really did not hit the archive yet, I checked on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foomatic-db, should be 0ubuntu2 [12:33] pitti, :P [12:33] mez: soyuz (and sbuild) doesn't care about what the arch says. [12:33] that is, the arch field in the source package. [12:33] tfheen, yeah, It's p-a-s [12:33] I did look at getting it updated in debian but that doesnt make any difference as they're not built in non-free anyways [12:34] cjwatson, would it be easier for me to email launchpad-buildd-admins@lists.ubuntu.com [12:34] Mez: no [12:35] Mez: I'm quoting the instructions at the top of the file. [12:35] Mez: you should get it updated in Debian since our P-a-s is precisely in sync with Debian's [12:36] also it's possible to get Debian non-free autobuilt; there was an announcement on debian-devel-announce a while back, IIRC [12:36] it's on a case-by-case basis [12:36] cjwatson, yes, I remember that - but that doesnt use P-a-s does it ? [12:37] er, it's orthogonal to P-a-s [12:37] cjwatson, I believe you're referring to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/11/msg00012.html ? [12:37] cjwatson, orthogonal ? === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] so, yes, I was right [12:37] hey hey Keybuk [12:38] heyhey [12:38] I never actually got any reply about that yet though [12:42] Mez: independent [12:43] cjwatson, as I said, I was right ;) :P [12:43] to be more precise, I don't know whether the non-free autobuilders use P-a-s or not, but that's totally irrelevant [12:43] in order to get it built in Ubuntu, you must get P-a-s updated. Or you could just continue to focus on irrelevant details I suppose ... === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] Mez: For future reference, when emailing us about P-a-s, please use the addresses from that file, as it's not an Ubuntu/Canonical resource. [01:03] Mez: Makes little difference for me, but for elmo or lamont, you may have landed in a mailbox they didn't want it in. :) [01:03] infinity, I dont know where the file is... I just got [01:03] http://cvs.debian.org/srcdep/Packages-arch-specific?rev=1.673&root=dak&view=markup [01:03] ^--- It's there. [01:03] Mez: mail elmo, lamont, and/or infinity if Packages-arch-specific needs to be changed [01:03] Mez: I'm quoting the instructions at the top of the file. [01:04] ogra ping? see PM [01:04] infinity, apologies :D [01:05] but cheers for the change === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === davmor2 [n=davmor2@62-30-74-119.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-169-146-143.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:24] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/82651 ; any chance you could get this fixed? [01:24] Malone bug 82651 in adept "File overwrite problem" [High,Confirmed] [01:24] it should be trivial === Hobbsee thoguth that got fixed. twice. maybe not... [01:25] maybe it's fixed and the bug is just not closed. [01:26] mvo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/70683 should be marked as fix released, shouldn't it? [01:26] Malone bug 70683 in update-manager "Upgrader needs better free-space checking for /boot " [High,Fix committed] === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Eons [n=Eons@151.76.178.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:28] tfheen: yes, thanks! === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:31] tfheen: i think it's fixed, i cant reproduce it (on ubuntu14) [01:36] doko: could you look at the debdiff in bug #69967 and upload it if it's OK? [01:36] Malone bug 69967 in python-pam "python-pam contains NO PYTHON!" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69967 === eggauah [n=daniel@201.72.58.251] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:40] Hobbsee: please close the bug, then [01:40] tfheen: just did :) [01:41] thanks === davmor2 [n=davmor2@62-30-74-119.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] $ gnome-default-applications-properties [01:48] GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:135: failed to allocate 18446744073699154385 bytes [01:48] aborting... [01:48] seb128: ^ I don't have *that* much memory :/ [01:48] lol [01:48] pitti: THEN GET MORE MEMORY!!! [01:48] BUY MORE [01:48] simple solution, really! :D [01:48] pitti: can you get a valgrind log? === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] Hobbsee: I have 3 GB, that ought to be enough [01:49] That's only 18 Exabytes [01:49] works fine on amd64, must be an i386 problem. :-P === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-78-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:49] tfheen: as you can see on the size_t value, this is an amd64 :) [01:49] hm. [01:49] seb128: switch to 'user defined' browser, and wait two seconds === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:50] pitti: WFM [01:50] pitti: what text do you write to the entry? [01:51] seb128: hm, I dist-upgraded, I should maybe restart [01:51] seb128: this works for me: [01:51] seb128: start app, switch to 'user defined', empty command, click on 'user defined' [01:51] indeed [01:51] pitti: ok, same here [01:51] please open a bug ;) [01:51] seb128: I'll file a bug if you want [01:52] heh, snap [01:52] seb128: oui, Monsieur [01:52] ;) === seb128 hugs pitti [01:54] tfheen: doing [01:55] Riddell: Hobbsee said it was fixed already, though [01:55] well, i cant seem to reproduce it here [01:55] and i bugged manchicken about it during one of his recent uploads of it, so i think it got done. [01:56] tfheen: doesn't seem to be [01:56] hrm [01:56] Riddell: ok, please get it fixed then. :-) [01:56] Riddell: thanks. [01:57] Riddell: how are you reproducing that? should i shoot this pbuilder or something? [02:00] Hobbsee: well I just looked at the debian/control file and saw that there wasn't a replaces for adept-notifier on adept-common [02:00] Riddell: ah. === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:02] seb128: do you maintain libnotify etc? [02:02] Chipzz: no, we don't really have a maintainer for them [02:02] I can update or patch them if required === mbiebl [n=michael@e180122080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:02] hrrrrm [02:02] mvo and dholbach also [02:02] why? [02:03] I just had a notification popup in the upper left corner of my screen, while my notification area is in the bottom right corner [02:04] seb128: I wonder if you've read the spec yet. [02:05] StevenK: what is the URI for the spec again? I'll have a look now [02:06] seb128: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutUbuntu ; thanks [02:06] Chipzz: there is several bugs open about notification-daemon bubble placement [02:06] patches are welcome ;) [02:06] StevenK: np [02:06] seb128: ah ok, known issue :) [02:07] StevenK: looks like a good idea [02:08] seb128: It's mostly written, I have just hit a wall about putting into the System menu [02:08] I doubt I can get it into main this release, though. :-/ [02:08] well, it's past feature freeze now [02:08] that looks like something for next cycle [02:08] get it to universe for now to start [02:09] and get it on the specs list for next UDS so it get discussed [02:09] or maybe mail ubuntu-devel about it [02:09] Yup. But it still needs to be put on the menu... === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:10] StevenK: menu changes should be discussed, that's why I suggest mailing the list to get opinions about that === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] tfheen: ok [02:20] tfheen: I've just been waiting for it to process so lrm would build [02:21] tfheen: Done [02:23] hey BenC [02:23] BenC: would the crash handler problem be fixed for herd4? === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:23] pitti: Hey [02:24] BenC: if not we should consider stopping using apport :/ [02:24] seb128, pitti: No, the kernel tfheen pointed out is the last one I uploaded [02:24] I have a fix for it, but it's not uploaded yet [02:24] could you get it uploaded before herd4? [02:24] seb128: I disabled apport last Friday in 0.52 [02:24] pitti: ah ok, cool [02:24] seb128: Might be best to ask tfheen [02:25] I would prefer getting linux fixed and apport used again for herd4 if possible though ;) [02:25] I'll do an upload and talk to him about getting it in [02:25] BenC: thank you, that would be useful to get valid bugs for herd4 === essenza [i=root@unaffiliated/essenza] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:29] BenC: cheers. === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-132.swipnet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:34] tfheen: oops, forgot to account for last upload version...reuploaded === Liberax [n=Marem@host67-7-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:36] Hi guys.. anybody know what part of the system control the wireless led blinking on the laptop === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:36] Liberax: usually the wireless driver itself [02:37] Ng: beacause on windows works right but on link is blinking too too fast [02:37] on ubuntu [02:37] Liberax: maybe ubuntu is making your wireless go faster! or it might be a bug ;) [02:38] Ng :) usually the led blink when searching wireless network === mako_ [n=mako@bork.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@p548FC096.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:43] Chipzz: hmmm ... most of the placement of the notifications *should* be fixed [02:43] Chipzz: any way to reproduce it? === tkamppeter [n=till@bl7-104-169.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:51] geser: uploaded, IMO a rebuild is sufficient [02:54] mvo: I got it with a notification of "battery full" [02:54] not sure if I can reproduce it [02:54] mvo: ah I get it [02:54] my panel died a couple of days ago, and the power manager icon got it's own window [02:55] which is in the top-left corner (on another desktop even) [02:56] and where did the bubble pointed too now? [02:56] doko: I tried a rebuild, the deb contained the files but the package had no depends on python === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-78-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:59]