[11:59] <allmanj> hey - i'm continually forgetting this so this time i'll make a note. If i want to stop an install from rebooting after it finishes, there's a kernel option i can pass, right?
[12:13] <cjwatson> just don't preseed prebaseconfig/reboot_in_progress or finish-install/reboot_in_progress (as applicable); it doesn't reboot noninteractively unless you preseed that
[12:48] <allmanj> on a dapper system?
[12:48] <allmanj> actually, i have preboot_in_progress set
[12:48] <allmanj> i'll try switching that off - thanks!
[12:53] <cjwatson> prebaseconfig/reboot_in_progress on dapper IIRC
[12:57] <allmanj> seems to be the one all right. type note? is that right? (seems odd)
[12:57] <allmanj> running an install now to see if that'll stop it
[01:10] <cjwatson> yes, it's a note template
[01:10] <cjwatson> preseeding it has the effect of indicating that you've already "seen" the note and thus it shouldn't be displayed again
[01:22] <allmanj> gotcha, but i thought that was normall done with seen? anyway - it worked a charm!
[01:24] <cjwatson> you can do it with seen too, but it doesn't make any difference with notes because there's no relevant value involved
[01:24] <cjwatson> the ability to preseed just the seen flag postdates ordinary value+seen preseeding
[01:25] <cjwatson> and it's mostly just used for preseeding something but then setting the seen flag to false again
[01:25] <cjwatson> (i.e. set a default)
[01:25] <allmanj> yes, i think i follow that
[01:25] <allmanj> that's what i've been using it for
[01:25] <allmanj> didn't really see the distinction but i think i get you now
[01:26] <cjwatson> preseeding does have the (arguable) flaw that it makes a lot more sense if you're familiar with debconf
[01:26] <cjwatson> it was designed by the author of debconf, and it shows :) it's a low-level facility in some ways
[01:30] <allmanj> yeah, it's not always obvious - but it does appear to work nicely when it works!
[02:32] <evand> I posted an announcement for m-a to -discuss.  Hopefully the mailman admins will get my drop request before it's posted there too.
[03:50] <cjwatson> evand: neat, thanks