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| bigon | Do you think that bug #66292 worth an update to proposed? | 12:17 |
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| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66292 in sylpheed "Please bump sylpheed to 2.2.9" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66292 | 12:17 |
| sistpoty | bigon: if you backport the individual fixes, I see no problem with an SRU. however a new upstream version should go to -backports | 12:20 |
| bigon | sistpoty: ark | 12:21 |
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| mohammad | bddebian: hello | 01:15 |
| mohammad | bddebian: I have applied all comments you gave me on zekr, would you please kindly review it? | 01:16 |
| sistpoty | gn8 everyone | 01:17 |
| bddebian | mohammad: Yep, give me a little bit | 01:23 |
| mohammad | :) | 01:25 |
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| jdong | !seen jdong | 01:31 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jdong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:31 |
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| jrib | Hi, I had a question regarding the policy on packages in universe. The upstreamdev package is currently a bit old and I'd like to see a more recent version packaged (which fixes a lot of bugs). My question is, is it possible to have the new version included in feisty at this point in time in the schedule? | 01:33 |
| jdong | !where seen went | 01:33 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about where seen went - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 01:33 |
| jdong | ^^ Seveas ..... :( | 01:33 |
| geser | jrib: as we are in UVF now, it depends which bugs are fixed. the more severe the more likely to get it included | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | geser: it's still pretty early. file a UVF exception | 01:36 |
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| geser | Hobbsee: I've already filed one :) | 01:37 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 01:37 |
| jrib | geser: I see, well the current package in feisty won't be able to use ubuntu-nl's pastebin since that has been updated since we released the version that got packaged. That's probably the biggest issue. Should I make sure I find a packager or create a suitable package myself before filing a UVF exception? | 01:37 |
| Adri2000 | yes | 01:38 |
| geser | jrib: you should have a package ready | 01:38 |
| Adri2000 | "Please note that we expect requesters to have an updated package already prepared and tested!" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 | 01:38 |
| geser | jrib: that's a good reason to include a new version | 01:39 |
| jrib | ok, last question: The package in feisty was brought over from debian. We've been unable to contact the original packager. Are there any issues with a new packager maintaining the new package? | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | bah. cant we just say "can we have a new version of basket" "yes" | 01:40 |
| geser | jrib: that should be no problem | 01:41 |
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| jrib | geser, Adri2000, Hobbsee: thank you all very much | 01:42 |
| mohammad | vil: Hello vil I have applied the comment you gave me about using cdbs instead of Makefile. would you please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4350 [zekr] now? | 01:43 |
| vil | mahammad, i will take look at it, though i don't promise it will be any soon now (like tomorrow) | 01:47 |
| mohammad | vil: ok thank you :) | 01:48 |
| vil | mohammad, sorry for mistyping your name | 01:48 |
| mohammad | see you all :) | 01:48 |
| jdong | anyone see irony on multiple levels in bug 666? | 01:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 666 in malone "can't file a bug on Ubuntu" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666 | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | no | 01:53 |
| bddebian | Ack, 666 | 02:03 |
| jrib | jdong: ha wow, that's a nice find | 02:05 |
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| jdong | well apparently some of us don't have a sense of humor... :) | 02:06 |
| tsmithe | jdong, that wasn't your find :P | 02:07 |
| tsmithe | i mean jrib | 02:07 |
| tsmithe | bah | 02:07 |
| tsmithe | whatever | 02:07 |
| tsmithe | now revu my packages :P | 02:07 |
| jdong | tsmithe with his devilish mind first came across that :) | 02:08 |
| tsmithe | :) | 02:08 |
| jdong | in a flood storm of #ubuntuforums with bug commands :D | 02:08 |
| tsmithe | hehe | 02:08 |
| jdong | I did file bug 84647 against Ubugtu for that :) | 02:08 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84647 in ubuntu-bots "Ubugtu not throttled -DoS/flooding" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84647 | 02:08 |
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| vil | hi, I would like to be added as a REVU reviewer. what can i do for it? | 02:52 |
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| bddebian | vil: Become an MOTU :-) | 02:57 |
| vil | bddebian, i am :) | 02:57 |
| bddebian | Then you already are :-) | 02:58 |
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| ajmitch | bddebian: no, it requires some DB tweaking | 02:58 |
| bddebian | Oh really? | 02:58 |
| ajmitch | yes really | 02:58 |
| bddebian | I thought they were synced. Hmm, sorry | 02:58 |
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| ajmitch | the uploaders keyring is | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | revu accounts in the db aren't | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | vil: revu email address? | 02:59 |
| vil | ajmitch: vladimir.lapacek@gmail.com | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | Altering vladimir.lapacek@gmail.com to level reviewer | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | k, done | 03:01 |
| vil | ajmitch, thx | 03:03 |
| tsmithe | i uploaded a new package to revu, only to find out that it was not new there. | 03:03 |
| tsmithe | it's a new upstream version however | 03:03 |
| tsmithe | but i did the packaging completely from scratch | 03:03 |
| tsmithe | it's not currently in ubuntu | 03:04 |
| tsmithe | and it's name is enblend | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | tsmithe: apparently thta's not in the archives at all? | 03:05 |
| tsmithe | no it's not | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | oh, hub did the original package.. | 03:05 |
| tsmithe | yes i see that | 03:05 |
| tsmithe | however, is what i've done ok? | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | hijacking a package generally isn't appreciated | 03:10 |
| tsmithe | ajmitch, i know | 03:11 |
| tsmithe | as i said, i hadn't realised i had until five minutes ago | 03:11 |
| tsmithe | hub, are you here? | 03:12 |
| tsmithe | well - i'm going to bed | 03:17 |
| tsmithe | i'll pm hub | 03:17 |
| tsmithe | done | 03:22 |
| tsmithe | night all | 03:22 |
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| bigon | n8 | 03:45 |
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| alephant | Hi all... I need to rebuild the stock kernel with a slight tweak to the .config -- I need the version numbers to match $(uname -r) so that my modules-nonfree can modprobe. Is this make-kpkg, or dpkg-buildpackage, or something else altogether? | 04:03 |
| alephant | I know I'm slightly off-topic, please have mercy :-) | 04:03 |
| hub | ajmitch: it is actually the second time somebody tries to hijack it. | 04:35 |
| hub | ajmitch: actually said package would already be there if I could compile it | 04:35 |
| hub | ajmitch: but with 512MB I can't | 04:35 |
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| ajmitch | hub: a rather heavy package? | 04:37 |
| hub | ajmitch: just g++ being a hog | 04:38 |
| ajmitch | ah | 04:38 |
| hub | the official answer is "get more RAM" | 04:38 |
| Laser_away | binary packages should be smaller than the corresponding source package generally, shouldn't they? | 04:44 |
| white | the bad thing about living in australia is probably the fact that there is always a huge mail backlog on the mls in the morning :( | 04:45 |
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| Fujitsu | Hey white. | 04:46 |
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| Fujitsu | Laser_away, generally. | 04:46 |
| Laser_away | I'm just having fun watching my mirror of Feisty grow | 04:46 |
| white | Fujitsu: have you read debian-melbourne@ ? | 04:47 |
| white | Fujitsu: anibal suggested to catch up on wednesday night | 04:47 |
| Laser_away | trying to figure out if I have enough space on this partition or not | 04:47 |
| Fujitsu | white: I can't do Wednesdays, I have TAFE. Plus the parents probably wouldn't let me go :( | 04:47 |
| white | bah | 04:48 |
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| Laser_away | I'm up to php in Universe :-) | 04:50 |
| Fujitsu | Laser_away: Why are you mirroring it? | 04:50 |
| ajmitch | crazy person | 04:51 |
| Laser_away | for fun, kinda | 04:51 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: parents won't let you meet strange, slightly disturbing geeks at night? | 04:51 |
| ajmitch | how annoying | 04:51 |
| Fujitsu | Heheh. | 04:51 |
| Laser_away | I have enough machines that I thought it might be good | 04:51 |
| Laser_away | plus I wanted to be able to get source packages fast :-) | 04:52 |
| Fujitsu | I'd like to have a source mirror, but it'll take a couple of months to mirror, I think. | 04:52 |
| Laser_away | but the main reason is I'm learning how to use reprepo | 04:52 |
| Fujitsu | Reprepo for mirroring? | 04:52 |
| Laser_away | yep | 04:52 |
| Laser_away | I'm grabbing i386 and source for Feisty Main and Universe | 04:53 |
| Laser_away | I'm almost 7GB into it | 04:53 |
| Laser_away | that'll feed 3 machines | 04:54 |
| white | Fujitsu: well just go ahead and write your answer on debian-melbourne, I am sure we find a date where we can catch up | 04:55 |
| white | at least we still need to catch up for keysigning anyway :) | 04:55 |
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| Laser_away | me too ;-) | 04:55 |
| Fujitsu | white: I'll write a reply in a sec. | 04:56 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch, how long since you've been here? | 04:56 |
| Laser_away | it's just across the trench for ajmitch and I | 04:56 |
| Laser_away | my trench is just a bit bigger ;-) | 04:56 |
| Fujitsu | Laser_away, hah. | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: july | 04:56 |
| white | time to come back | 04:57 |
| ajmitch | I don't think I visited at all in 2005 | 04:57 |
| Fujitsu | white: Definitely. | 04:57 |
| Fujitsu | Melbourne == goooood. | 04:57 |
| ajmitch | was there for nearly 2 months in 2004 | 04:57 |
| Fujitsu | Better than Dunedin | 04:57 |
| === Fujitsu ducks. | ||
| === ajmitch would need to check the passport to remember when he's been | ||
| Fujitsu | Laser_away, you realise that i386+source feisty main/universe is a few MiB under 30GiB? | 04:58 |
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| Laser_away | Fujitsu: I'll find out | 05:03 |
| Laser_away | I'm not sure why source seems sorta smallish so far | 05:03 |
| Fujitsu | `Download all files that we need to get (29976 MiB).' | 05:03 |
| Laser_away | I was expecting 30-40GB | 05:04 |
| Laser_away | when this partition gets full I'll just make a new one and move everything over there | 05:04 |
| Laser_away | I just hit the trigger before thinking "Oh, I should check to see if I have enough space" ;-) | 05:05 |
| Laser_away | but I'm suprised that I'm almost to "r" for Universe source (no Main yet) and I've only got 7.0GB | 05:07 |
| Laser_away | but I'm guessing Gnome+KDE+Kernel+Xorg will take a bit | 05:08 |
| Fujitsu | universe is about 21GB, so it can't be doing it in order... | 05:10 |
| Laser_away | it is though | 05:10 |
| Laser_away | I'll just have to see | 05:11 |
| bddebian | @#$^$%@$#^ hard drive :-( | 05:15 |
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| Laser_away | bddebian: is it dying? | 05:16 |
| _ion | 29976 MiB is actually 744 MiB less than 30 GiB. | 05:16 |
| Laser_away | heh | 05:17 |
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| _ion | Of course the filesystem overhead may add a lot to it. :-) | 05:17 |
| bddebian | Laser_away: Either that or it's just tired of doing reviews :-) | 05:17 |
| Laser_away | bddebian: my drive died suddenly not long ago | 05:18 |
| Laser_away | I was trying to install OpenSuse | 05:18 |
| Laser_away | I think it was a sign | 05:18 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:18 |
| Laser_away | so it was a good excuse to buy a bigger drive | 05:19 |
| Laser_away | I hadn't bought any computer parts for over a year | 05:19 |
| Laser_away | so I went all out and got a 160GB ATA drive ;-) | 05:19 |
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| Ademan | laserjock: you have a blog? haha, i searched for REVU and found your blog | 06:49 |
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| LaserJock | Ademan: I do yes | 06:50 |
| Ademan | anyways, is there any way to snag binary packages off of revu in any way? | 06:51 |
| ajmitch | they're not autobuilt | 06:52 |
| Ademan | figured | 06:52 |
| ajmitch | tiber is not a fast box | 06:52 |
| Ademan | where DO packages get built? out of curiosity? | 06:52 |
| LaserJock | on my machine | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | for REVU | 06:53 |
| Ademan | geeze, really? are you just a volunteer LaserJock? | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | yes | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | that's how we do it | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | we build on our own machines | 06:54 |
| Ademan | oh, the submitter builds on their machine? | 06:54 |
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| LaserJock | once it goes into Ubuntu proper it get's sent to the the Ubuntu build farm | 06:54 |
| ajmitch | most of us are 'just volunteers' | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | Ademan: reviewers too | 06:54 |
| Ademan | oh so the packages going into the repositories are built at the "Ubuntu build farm" though? | 06:55 |
| Fujitsu | There are no Canonical-employed people who work primarily on universe, are there? | 06:55 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: no, dholbach works mostly on main now | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | nope | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | and ogra on Edubuntu | 06:55 |
| ajmitch | Ademan: any upload to ubuntu from us is source-only | 06:56 |
| Fujitsu | I thought so... :( | 06:56 |
| ajmitch | & by any canonical developer too | 06:56 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: that's the point, that there be community support for it | 06:56 |
| ajmitch | debian manages alright | 06:56 |
| Ademan | oh ok, i guess i didn't phrase my question, cause when i said "where do packages get built" i meant, the ones that go into the repositories, oh well | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | but you were talking about REVU | 06:56 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch: I guess. | 06:57 |
| Ademan | yeah sorry, geeze couldn't you read my mind? lol | 06:57 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: But the vast majority of debian's packages have dedicated maintainers. | 06:57 |
| ajmitch | TheMuso: sure, and we have teams who maintain things in ubuntu as well | 06:57 |
| TheMuso | We are responsible for a large chunk of debian, all 60 odd of us. | 06:57 |
| Fujitsu | TheMuso: And there are actually a significant number of active DDs. | 06:57 |
| TheMuso | Fujitsu: True that. | 06:58 |
| TheMuso | ajmitch: True. | 06:58 |
| Fujitsu | TheMuso, a lot of that 60 are main-only, and a lot aren't active. | 06:58 |
| TheMuso | Fujitsu: Right. | 06:58 |
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| LaserJock | anybody know if gparted handles lvm ok? | 08:14 |
| Fujitsu | What do you mean by OK? | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | I'm just not so great with lvm yet | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | I *think* I might have an lvm partition | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | gparted won't destroy it, but you can't use it to adjust it. | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | You think? | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | gparted sees an "unknown" partition and under flags it says lvm | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | that's the thing | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | I don't really remember creating it | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | it's not in fstab or mounted | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, it handles it worse than it did in Dapper... It used to at least show the LVs at separate devices. | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | Are your other partitions there? | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | my regular partitions are there | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | I don't know if I even have a volume group | 08:21 |
| Fujitsu | Try running sudo vgdisplay, and see if it does anything. | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | what package is vgdisplay in? | 08:24 |
| Fujitsu | lvm2 | 08:24 |
| Fujitsu | (not installed by default since Edgy, grrr.) | 08:24 |
| Fujitsu | Once you've installed that, you'll probably need to run vgscan before vgdisplay will see anything. | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | I'm guessing not having lvm installed probably was an issue ;-) | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | bah | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | something's not right | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | maybe it needs a reboot or something | 08:24 |
| Fujitsu | It may have installed something in the initramfs, yes. | 08:25 |
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| Fujitsu | Hey Hobbsee. | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | bah, I'll do it when my repo mirroring finishes/dies | 08:26 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:27 |
| Fujitsu | Hi dholbach. | 08:27 |
| Lure | hi dholbach | 08:27 |
| Hobbsee | hi Fujitsu! | 08:27 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: what do you use for building your repo? | 08:27 |
| Lure | dholbach: what is the plan with motu council in regards to new members? | 08:27 |
| Hobbsee | morning dholbach | 08:27 |
| Lure | dholbach: am I to go with TB still this week, or is Motu council fully in charge now? | 08:28 |
| dholbach | Lure: the poll will finish on 15th | 08:28 |
| dholbach | the MC is not ready yet | 08:28 |
| dholbach | hi Hobbsee, hi Fujitsu | 08:29 |
| Lure | dholbach: ok | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: reprepo | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: which isnt in the repos? | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | it is | 08:30 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ search reprepo | 08:30 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ | 08:30 |
| Hobbsee | !info reprepo feisty | 08:30 |
| ubotu | Package reprepo does not exist in feisty | 08:30 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: where? | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | doh, did I spell it wrong | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | reprepro | 08:31 |
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| Fujitsu | !info reprepro feisty | 08:31 |
| ubotu | reprepro: debian package repository producer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 199 kB, installed size 500 kB | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | the only thing I hate about it so far is the name | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | ehhe | 08:31 |
| TheMuso | Is it at all possible to use/control network manager from the CLI? | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | heh, you can get rid of it from CLI ;-) | 08:35 |
| Hobbsee | yay, TheMuso hasnt drowned! | 08:35 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: This weather rocks!!! | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | & why would TheMuso have drowned? | 08:35 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: because it's very wet | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | is it slightly wet there? | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | that's good | 08:35 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: as long as you dont have to go out in it, yes :D | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | I understand it's been a bit dry :) | 08:36 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 08:36 |
| TheMuso | Ok, so what launches network manager? | 08:36 |
| TheMuso | Either I can use it in the CLI, or it goes. | 08:36 |
| ajmitch | magic | 08:37 |
| TheMuso | What???????? dbus? | 08:37 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 08:37 |
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| TheMuso | Bah and so does dhcdbd | 08:38 |
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| Hobbsee | dholbach: you couldnt just grant us a UVFe for basket now, could you? (between 1.0rc1 and 1.0 final) or do i have to file it properly? | 09:13 |
| dholbach | there's no UVF yet | 09:14 |
| dholbach | not for universe | 09:15 |
| dholbach | I thought it was the 22nd? | 09:15 |
| dholbach | no? | 09:15 |
| Fujitsu | No. | 09:15 |
| Fujitsu | 22nd is FF. | 09:15 |
| Fujitsu | 8th was UVF. | 09:15 |
| dholbach | I thought it was delayed for Univerese. | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: it's gone feb 8. but if you say i can put it thru, then please ack the sync :P | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: no, that was only FF, not UVF. which is kinda silly | 09:15 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: what is the launchpad bug no? | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/basket/+bug/84678 | 09:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84678 in basket "Please sync basket (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: havent done the diff and all of that yet | 09:16 |
| dholbach | gracias | 09:16 |
| dholbach | done | 09:16 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: thanks | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: does that mean you'll do the same for ksynaptics/libsynaptics? | 09:18 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: i dont think the bug's filed yet | 09:18 |
| dholbach | if you have a good reason to update it - we're fairly early in the cycle still | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: how about "the current version doesnt work too well" | 09:19 |
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| dholbach | if you can attach bits of the changelog i'm sure it's going to be alright | 09:22 |
| dholbach | I can't say "sure it'll be alright", but i'll sure have look at it | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: okay. will have to wait on the debian bit to update | 09:22 |
| dholbach | ok | 09:23 |
| dholbach | cool | 09:23 |
| Hobbsee | bah. ksynaptics will need a merge, but libsynaptics is a sync | 09:24 |
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| Sp4rKy | hi | 10:15 |
| Sp4rKy | does ${python:Depends} should add python-gtk2 & python-glade2 to Depends if software needs it ? | 10:16 |
| StevenK | Sp4rKy: I doubt it. | 10:20 |
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| Sp4rKy | k, so i add them | 10:21 |
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| Hobbsee | dholbach: ping? | 11:53 |
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| dholbach | Hobbsee: pong | 11:55 |
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| Hobbsee | dholbach: can you ack https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsynaptics/+bug/84681 too please? | 11:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84681 in libsynaptics "Please sync libsynaptics (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:55 |
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| Hobbsee | dholbach: we work with debian for all this stuff - yay :) | 11:55 |
| dholbach | +* rewriting singleton pad class (breaks compability!) ??? | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: please ignore hte ubuntu versoin on that changelog - it's a sync. | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: means that the new ksynaptics will need to come in too | 11:56 |
| dholbach | please take a look at what it breaks there | 11:56 |
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| dholbach | hm | 11:57 |
| dholbach | ok | 11:57 |
| dholbach | acked | 11:57 |
| dholbach | please refer to the normal process for the other stuff | 11:57 |
| dholbach | i'm out for lunch and buying hardware now | 11:57 |
| dholbach | see you later | 11:57 |
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| Hobbsee | dholbach: okay. FYI, i'ts only ksynaptics that depends on that, which we'll bring in the new versoin. | 11:58 |
| Hobbsee | (sorry, was being talked to) | 11:58 |
| dholbach | yeah, I checked | 11:59 |
| dholbach | it's ok | 11:59 |
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| fernando | moin all | 12:01 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: was it you who did the reports on kde, and MOTUscience, with debian/ubuntu packages? | 01:06 |
| white | when is the next MOTU meeting btw? i am curious if my suggestion will be discussed | 01:09 |
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| Hobbsee | white: which suggestion? :) | 01:10 |
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| white | (suggestion = automatically writing a mail to everyone who just uploaded a new package to universe which is not in debian if they might want to consider bringing it into debian as well or at least looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributingToDebian ) | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 01:11 |
| white | or in other words i do not have to do it semi-manually anymore :) | 01:11 |
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| tsmithe | Hobbsee, you able to do a revu? (tis for the good cause of ubuntustudio ;) ) | 01:12 |
| Hobbsee | tsmithe: right now, i'm fighting madison-lite | 01:12 |
| tsmithe | hehe ok | 01:12 |
| white | Hobbsee: well i am still looking for an answer or do you reckon it is not worth to discuss? :) | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | white: sounds good to me | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | white: but then you have to find an elusive DD, no? | 01:21 |
| white | what do you mean? | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | white: as in, it's known that there arent terribly many DD"s around. at least not around in #ubuntu-motu | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | seems that way, whehter it's true or not, though | 01:23 |
| white | if you are looking for a sponsor you can go via #debian-mentors (oftc), debian-mentors@l.d.o. or utnubu-discuss@l.alioth.d.o. (exclusively for MOTUs and ubuntu folks :) )or ask the DDs in this channel if they are around | 01:23 |
| === white is horrible | ||
| white | at least a horrible cook | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:24 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i'm starting to see that you arent so high and mighty and perfect, and wouldnt come talk to us lowly ubuntu people :P | 01:24 |
| StevenK | Hah! | 01:24 |
| white | rotfl | 01:24 |
| white | Hobbsee: well actually i am just here for you ;) | 01:25 |
| white | . o O(i was never good at flirting ...) | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:25 |
| StevenK | white: Don't give up your day job, that's dreadful. :-P | 01:25 |
| white | :) | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:25 |
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| Hobbsee | white: if you say things like that, then i'll tend to utilise it. ask StevenK how many packages he uploaded for me before i got MOTU :P | 01:29 |
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| tsmithe | StevenK is motu eh... | 01:30 |
| tsmithe | could he do a revu for me? | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | tsmithe: if you convince him... | 01:31 |
| white | Hobbsee: go ahead, i feel like i want to take this challenge | 01:31 |
| tsmithe | good good | 01:31 |
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| tsmithe | StevenK, are you up for a review? as i said to Hobbsee, it's for the great and just cause of UbuntuStudio ;) | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | white: but then i'd have to find something to upload to debian. and i got beaten, for basket. | 01:32 |
| StevenK | Now look what you've done! | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | tsmithe: make white review it :P | 01:32 |
| === white is wondering what UbuntuStudio is | ||
| tsmithe | http://ubuntustudio.org | 01:32 |
| tsmithe | but, erm, it's pretty elusive | 01:32 |
| StevenK | tsmithe: Is it on REVU? | 01:32 |
| tsmithe | StevenK, yup | 01:32 |
| tsmithe | wired ;) | 01:32 |
| StevenK | In that case, I'll think about it. | 01:33 |
| tsmithe | white, it's just a theme, a tweaked installed, and different packages | 01:33 |
| tsmithe | StevenK, that's very definitive of you :P | 01:33 |
| tsmithe | thanks | 01:33 |
| white | ah so it is like the theme and stuff as you said | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | yeah | 01:34 |
| white | i thougt it is a music studio | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | and a choice of the lowtency kernel | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | hum | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | !info ubuntustudio-audio feisty | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | eth | 01:34 |
| ubotu | ubuntustudio-audio: Ubuntu Studio Audio Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1 (feisty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | *etc | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | and then there's one for video, graphics | 01:34 |
| tsmithe | we're gonna expand in v2, do more cool stuff like tweaking settings, portaudio with jack perhaps | 01:35 |
| tsmithe | interesting things | 01:35 |
| tsmithe | oh and white, you can help me get my packages into debian! | 01:36 |
| StevenK | Shhh, don't tell him a DD | 01:36 |
| StevenK | tsmithe: I'd suggest you make friends with http://mentors.debian.net/ for that purpose. | 01:37 |
| tsmithe | hehe ok | 01:37 |
| white | http://paste.debian.net/21782 | 01:37 |
| white | if somebody needs to know what the suites in debian are | 01:37 |
| white | we just figured that out :) | 01:38 |
| StevenK | Bwahaha | 01:38 |
| StevenK | There's two states on archive.debian.org, though | 01:38 |
| tsmithe | white, hehe | 01:38 |
| tsmithe | wooo! cinelerra has finished pulling from bzr... now i can get to work sorting out the licence | 01:39 |
| tsmithe | but it's a pita to push | 01:39 |
| tsmithe | 483MiB... :( | 01:39 |
| StevenK | tsmithe: What's the link to the REVU thing you want me to look at? | 01:39 |
| white | tsmithe: yeah if you need anything, just tell me | 01:39 |
| white | . o O(i hope this wasn't a mistake) | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | hahaha | 01:39 |
| tsmithe | StevenK, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4354 | 01:39 |
| white | tsmithe: and if you ever need sponsoring StevenK is a DD | 01:39 |
| tsmithe | white, cool | 01:39 |
| tsmithe | StevenK, cool | 01:39 |
| StevenK | white: Commonly known as "Don't make me regret this!" | 01:39 |
| StevenK | BAH! | 01:40 |
| tsmithe | hehe | 01:40 |
| === StevenK kicks white | ||
| === white hides | ||
| tsmithe | StevenK, now your in for it too! mwhaaha | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | white: and you arent? | 01:40 |
| white | . o O(i need to get rid of my cloak) | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | tsmithe: i can attack StevenK with my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! too, so that's even better | 01:40 |
| tsmithe | hehe ok | 01:40 |
| === StevenK raises an eyebrow | ||
| tsmithe | Hobbsee, you need that on the lart ;) | 01:40 |
| tsmithe | and more !!!!s | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | tsmithe: yes, but i didnt make the lart. | 01:41 |
| tsmithe | hehe ok :) | 01:41 |
| StevenK | ARGH, you Build-Depend on cvs | 01:46 |
| tsmithe | yeah! very argh | 01:46 |
| tsmithe | but it dies unless i do | 01:46 |
| StevenK | Oh what? | 01:46 |
| tsmithe | the "autogen.sh" script that generates configure dies if it can't find cvs | 01:46 |
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| StevenK | Why does debian/manpage.1 exist? | 01:47 |
| tsmithe | as the manpage... | 01:47 |
| tsmithe | ? | 01:47 |
| StevenK | You'd call it wired.1 | 01:47 |
| StevenK | And stuff wired.1 into debian/manpages | 01:48 |
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| tsmithe | hmm ok | 01:48 |
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| lastnode | Fujitsu, ping please | 01:49 |
| tsmithe | i'll update that then | 01:49 |
| StevenK | Build-Depending on cvs concerns me | 01:50 |
| tsmithe | it concerns me too | 01:50 |
| === StevenK plays | ||
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| tsmithe | but there's not really i can do... | 01:50 |
| tsmithe | and debian/manpages just contains one line: wired.1x (as i will rename it) | 01:51 |
| tsmithe | right? | 01:52 |
| StevenK | Looks fine | 01:53 |
| StevenK | Right, autopoint -f is too blame | 01:53 |
| StevenK | s/too/to/ | 01:53 |
| tsmithe | yeah it is | 01:53 |
| tsmithe | but i don't really know what to do about it | 01:53 |
| StevenK | And you can't depend on Internet access to build, which it currently does. | 01:53 |
| tsmithe | i don't even know what that does :S | 01:53 |
| StevenK | The Ubuntu buildds, for example, can't access the Internet. | 01:54 |
| tsmithe | ok | 01:54 |
| tsmithe | but i don't even know if it uses it to do anything internety | 01:55 |
| tsmithe | as i said, i'm not sure what it does... | 01:55 |
| StevenK | root@liquified:~/wired-0.4# sh -x /usr/bin/autopoint -f >../log 2>&1 | 01:56 |
| StevenK | root@liquified:~/wired-0.4# grep '+ cvs ' ../log | 01:56 |
| StevenK | + cvs -d /tmp/buildd/wired-0.4/tmpcvs3792 init | 01:56 |
| StevenK | + cvs checkout -rgettext-0_14_4 archive | 01:56 |
| StevenK | BAD | 01:57 |
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| tsmithe | yes | 02:02 |
| tsmithe | that is very very bad | 02:02 |
| tsmithe | very very very bad | 02:02 |
| tsmithe | hum | 02:02 |
| StevenK | I'd daresay hacking autogen.sh to not call autopoint | 02:02 |
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| tsmithe | StevenK, yeah | 02:03 |
| tsmithe | i'll see if i can do a patch | 02:03 |
| tsmithe | i'll also poke upstream | 02:04 |
| StevenK | ajmitch, siretart, etc: Can you fix it so I can comment on REVU? | 02:07 |
| pochu | hey guys, I have a problem with a build and a menu entry: dh_installmenu: Compatibility levels before 4 are deprecated. | 02:07 |
| pochu | any idea? | 02:07 |
| white | you are using a debhelper compat lever smaller than 4 ? | 02:08 |
| white | s/lever/level/ | 02:08 |
| pochu | white: how can I know that? | 02:08 |
| pochu | :) | 02:08 |
| white | debian/compat | 02:08 |
| white | or debian/rules | 02:08 |
| pochu | let me see | 02:09 |
| pochu | white: # This is the debhelper compatibility version to use. | 02:09 |
| pochu | export DH_COMPAT=3 | 02:09 |
| pochu | in rules | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | pochu: that'd be it | 02:09 |
| pochu | should I change it to 4? | 02:10 |
| white | pochu: you might want to remove that line and use debian/compat | 02:10 |
| white | and put in 5 | 02:10 |
| lastnode | Hobbsee, do you have Fujtsu on IM? | 02:10 |
| pochu | white: ok, I'm going to try it, ty! | 02:10 |
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| white | or 4, depends on what you want | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | lastnode: no, sorry :( | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | lastnode: i'd imagine he's gone to bed though - it's a school night | 02:11 |
| StevenK | Heh | 02:11 |
| white | . o O(good that small students like me are still on holidays) | 02:11 |
| pochu | white: why it depends? I want to fix a menu entry | 02:12 |
| white | pochu: the compat lever is important for debhelper's behaviour | 02:12 |
| white | s/lever/level/ | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | white: how old are you? | 02:12 |
| white | *narf* | 02:12 |
| white | Hobbsee: 20 | 02:12 |
| Hobbsee | white: bah. oldie :P | 02:13 |
| white | you? | 02:13 |
| pochu | white: there would be any problem if I put 5? | 02:13 |
| lastnode | Hobbsee, i see, i keep missing him. damn timezones | 02:13 |
| white | pochu: then you use latest compat level and can use the current features of debhelper and stuff | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | white: 18 | 02:14 |
| white | jeffey | 02:14 |
| pochu | Hobbsee: as me ;) | 02:14 |
| pochu | white: thanks :) | 02:14 |
| white | no worries | 02:14 |
| === Nafallo feels old | ||
| === StevenK does too | ||
| === Hobbsee steals StevenK's walking stick | ||
| === Hobbsee steals Nafallo's walking stick too | ||
| === StevenK falls in a heap | ||
| === Hobbsee picks StevenK up, and duct tapes him to his chair | ||
| white | Hobbsee: where abouts are you located? | 02:15 |
| StevenK | Hah | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | white: sydney, australia | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | white: close enough to be able to thump StevenK if he doesnt do what i want, you know? :P | 02:15 |
| white | Hobbsee: come over here to Melb :) | 02:16 |
| === StevenK doesn't take orders from no-one. Uh, sir | ||
| white | . o O(more keysigning ...) | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: much. | 02:16 |
| tsmithe | bah | 02:16 |
| tsmithe | aussies | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: even if they carry a Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? | 02:16 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 02:16 |
| white | tsmithe: i am certainly not | 02:16 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Heh | 02:17 |
| tsmithe | :) | 02:17 |
| Nafallo | eskilstuna, sweden... | 02:17 |
| === tsmithe is in the UK | ||
| StevenK | white: You just happen to be in Melbourne? | 02:17 |
| white | yes, i am an international student | 02:17 |
| StevenK | We won't hold that against yuou | 02:17 |
| StevenK | s/yuou/you/ | 02:17 |
| white | rotfl | 02:17 |
| tsmithe | wooo! | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: which? the fact that he's in melbourne, not sydney, or an international student? | 02:19 |
| === tsmithe is happy cos he can fix the autopoint problem | ||
| white | first of all Melbourne rocks | 02:20 |
| tsmithe | why does autopoint even exist when /usr/share/gettext/archive.tar.gz does?! | 02:20 |
| white | second point is that the aussies love internationals | 02:20 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: The latter | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 02:20 |
| StevenK | tsmithe: Because /usr/share/gettext/archive.tar.gz might, heaven forbid, be out of date. | 02:22 |
| StevenK | Hence the update from CVS. | 02:22 |
| tsmithe | that's crazy :P | 02:22 |
| StevenK | Just like the rest of autotools | 02:22 |
| tsmithe | hehe ok | 02:22 |
| white | you are just all jealous cos i have my super cow international power | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | white: that depends on where you're originally from, of course | 02:23 |
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| white | well start to tell me from where it is good? | 02:24 |
| === Hobbsee shrugs | ||
| tsmithe | hmm | 02:25 |
| white | hehe ... i am fully listening | 02:25 |
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| === StevenK uses his leet DD skills and finds out | ||
| white | bah | 02:25 |
| === white hurries to change settings | ||
| tsmithe | how do i use archive.tar.gz? all the files have `,v` appended to their filenames... | 02:26 |
| StevenK | That's because it's under RCS control | 02:26 |
| tsmithe | but, but,... | 02:27 |
| tsmithe | sooo... how do i fix it? | 02:27 |
| white | well debian ldap does not have any natioanlity field | 02:27 |
| === tsmithe looks at what autopoint does | ||
| white | s/natioanlity/nationality/ | 02:27 |
| StevenK | No, but I've made a guess. | 02:27 |
| white | bah yeah you can find it out | 02:27 |
| white | well let Hobbsee guess a bit :) | 02:27 |
| StevenK | Does your Jabber ID lie? | 02:28 |
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| white | i can't use my jabber here, but yes my jabber id tells you about my nationality | 02:28 |
| StevenK | Right. | 02:29 |
| === StevenK waits for Hobbsee to guess, too. | ||
| === Hobbsee isnt guessing. | ||
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| white | :( | 02:29 |
| white | so how do i sound like? | 02:29 |
| white | well actually i do not use my voice here at all ... | 02:29 |
| StevenK | Like text, duh. | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | white: well, the ISP is german | 02:29 |
| white | ? | 02:30 |
| white | you mean user.skolelinux.no ? | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | btw, you have a LP page. https://launchpad.net/~steffen-joeris | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | steffen.joeris@skolelinux.de | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | sorry, yoru email is | 02:30 |
| white | damn my mails ... | 02:31 |
| StevenK | Hah | 02:31 |
| white | Hobbsee: yes i do have a LP page, cos i wanted to look things up ... | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | ditto jabber, blog... | 02:31 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Nicely done, I did the same thing with db.debian.org | 02:31 |
| white | bah bad google | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:32 |
| StevenK | Actually, I think you have stuff in Debian with that e-mail | 02:32 |
| white | stratus: hi, i was just told that my mails are marked as spam, can you maybe check that? | 02:32 |
| StevenK | Yup, you o. | 02:33 |
| StevenK | s/ o/ do/ | 02:33 |
| white | stratus: nion pointed me to you | 02:33 |
| white | right i did not reupload all of my packages so far | 02:33 |
| StevenK | Most of them appear to be skolelinux.de, actually | 02:33 |
| white | well they did not need an upload | 02:34 |
| white | or maybe i was too lazy | 02:34 |
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| white | stratus: bah just forget about it, i somehow mixed things up, sorry | 02:40 |
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| white | Hobbsee: so you still have to say if that is any good or not | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | white: hrm? | 02:43 |
| === Hobbsee is very sleepy | ||
| white | 14:23 < Hobbsee> white: that depends on where you're originally from, of course | 02:44 |
| white | . o O(the time might be a bit confusing) | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | white: yes, i got it. but i never found otu where you were from, although apparently nto germany | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait. | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | .no, presumably? | 02:46 |
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| Hobbsee | smart. i'm half asleep | 02:47 |
| white | go to bed, we continue that tomorrow ;) | 02:47 |
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| esaym | Anyone have any tips for installing amule on dapper from the backports? | 03:11 |
| esaym | I've never installed from the backports befors | 03:12 |
| gpocentek | !backports | 03:12 |
| ubotu | If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports | 03:12 |
| Q-FUNK | hmm... not quite | 03:13 |
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| Q-FUNK | heh | 03:14 |
| === LongPointyStick DOOMS white | ||
| === LongPointyStick DOOMS Q-FUNK too. | ||
| Q-FUNK | hm. where did Hobbsee go? | 03:16 |
| === Nafallo wishes LongPointyStick could come and DOOM the workers who've been drilling all day :-/ | ||
| Q-FUNK | and doom the homeland security too. | 03:17 |
| Q-FUNK | while you're at it, dig out your Dubya-like voodoo doll and make it suffer a painful death. | 03:17 |
| esaym | ok so to get a backported package I just download the deb file and install it and run apt-get -f update? | 03:19 |
| gpocentek | esaym: that's a question for #ubuntu | 03:26 |
| esaym | oh sorry | 03:28 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:48 |
| Q-FUNK | heya | 03:48 |
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| Q-FUNK | (and greetings from a jetlagged Q-F in Cannuckistan) | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Heh | 03:49 |
| geser | hi bddebian | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Heya geser | 03:50 |
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| AnAnt | bddebian: thanks for reviewing zekr | 03:53 |
| white | zekr? | 03:54 |
| white | that sounds like an illness (no offense) | 03:54 |
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| bddebian | white: :-) | 03:56 |
| bddebian | AnAnt: NP | 03:56 |
| AnAnt | white: nope, a software | 03:56 |
| white | AnAnt: if you are the author, please excude i did not want to offend you | 03:58 |
| white | s/excude/excuse/ | 03:59 |
| white | LongPointyStick: bad Hobbsee | 04:07 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, sorry to be so mean, but could you... wait.. no - i need to update it first. | 04:07 |
| tsmithe | :) | 04:07 |
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| AnAnt | where's LaserJock ? | 04:12 |
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| bigon | Could someone review bug 84732, it's a SRU? | 05:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 84732 in python-pam "SRU: python-pam contains no binaries (edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84732 | 05:00 |
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| jdong | How does one resolve a symlink in a shellscript? | 05:51 |
| jdong | i.e. I have a symlink /path/foolink and want to know where it points to. | 05:51 |
| Nafallo | jdong: readlink | 05:55 |
| jdong | Nafallo: thanks! | 05:55 |
| jdong | that's exactly what I need | 05:55 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 06:00 |
| _ion | Hi | 06:01 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:sistpoty] : to: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | Check these packages for syncs/merges: http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html | ||
| sistpoty | hi _ion | 06:01 |
| geser | Hi sistpoty | 06:01 |
| sistpoty | hi geser | 06:01 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 06:02 |
| sistpoty | hi bddebian | 06:03 |
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| pl0pix | why does a pythons based package, which builds and runs under debian sid fail to run on a ubuntu edgy box? Msg: ImportError: No module named... | 07:10 |
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| pl0pix | why dosn't edgy's default python version 2.4 read packages python modules from /usr/share/python-support/<package-name>/ ? | 07:15 |
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| imbrandon | heya bddebian sistpoty Nafallo jdong etc etc etc | 07:22 |
| jdong | :) | 07:22 |
| jdong | good mass ping :) | 07:22 |
| imbrandon | lol | 07:22 |
| Nafallo | hi imbrandon :-) | 07:22 |
| imbrandon | mass >5 | 07:22 |
| imbrandon | heh | 07:22 |
| bddebian | Hi imbrandon | 07:24 |
| jwhitlark | hi imbrandon :-D | 07:25 |
| imbrandon | hey hey jwhitlark , long time | 07:25 |
| imbrandon | hows it been going in cali | 07:25 |
| jdong | mass > 5 except in the case of Rosie O'Donnell | 07:25 |
| jdong | in which cases it's much bigger | 07:25 |
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| imbrandon | ouch | 07:26 |
| imbrandon | you watch too much daytime tv | 07:26 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 07:26 |
| jdong | ;-) | 07:26 |
| jdong | I actually don't | 07:26 |
| jdong | I actually don't have a TV right now | 07:26 |
| jdong | should've brought my 32" LCD | 07:26 |
| jdong | didn't think my dorm would be big enough | 07:26 |
| jdong | but boy was I wrong | 07:26 |
| jdong | empty space everywhere | 07:27 |
| imbrandon | heh i have a 22in lcd monitor, and a few crt's 19 21 and 17 but only a 13 in TV | 07:27 |
| imbrandon | lol | 07:27 |
| imbrandon | i dont watch much tv | 07:27 |
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| imbrandon | or if i do its on the computer | 07:27 |
| jdong | he may or may not torrent Family Guy and Office, depending on if MIT IS&T is listening in on this conversation. | 07:27 |
| jdong | ;-) | 07:27 |
| jdong | well, off to Calc | 07:30 |
| jdong | have fun everyone | 07:30 |
| jdong | someone please figure out for me why avidemux is weirdly FTBFS | 07:30 |
| === jdong doesn't have many brain cells left to figure that out | ||
| jwhitlark | hey imbrandon, I've been sooo slammed.. Was hoping to see you at SCALE this weekend, but I guess you couldn't make it. jono thought you were going to show, but... | 07:32 |
| imbrandon | yea i was definately trying , but i dident make it | 07:33 |
| imbrandon | i told seele and jono i probably would but work happened | 07:33 |
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| jwhitlark | heh, that never happens to me.:-! | 07:34 |
| imbrandon | the next time i "plan" on getting out is to ubuntu live in portland | 07:34 |
| imbrandon | but something else wiill probably catch my eye before then | 07:34 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 07:34 |
| jwhitlark | hmm. I'm not sure if I'm going to that one. I've got pycon in a week, and I'll be 8 days there, not sure if my boss will let me go to another. And I want to try to get to UDS in Spain... | 07:35 |
| jwhitlark | Do we know where in spain it will be? | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | not yet iirc | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | but i'll be going top that too | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | s/top/to | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | where is pycon? google? | 07:36 |
| jwhitlark | Dallas. | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 07:36 |
| jwhitlark | 1 day of tutorials, 3 days of talks, 4 days of sprints. I think I'll be sprinting on trac. | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | thats only a few hours from here , i might try to take a day trip or something one of the days | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | dallas is aobut 7 hours if i rember right from here | 07:37 |
| jwhitlark | that'd be tight. It's a good conf. | 07:37 |
| imbrandon | somewhere close to that | 07:37 |
| jwhitlark | let me know, and we'll set you up with a room share, if you like. | 07:37 |
| imbrandon | kk cool | 07:37 |
| imbrandon | i still have your number in my old cell i think | 07:38 |
| imbrandon | if not i'll hit you up before then | 07:38 |
| imbrandon | if my old cell is charged up LOL | 07:38 |
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| imbrandon | hum hum hum, man yea now i'm wishing i would have went to SCALE | 07:39 |
| imbrandon | did you catch seele's talk ? i heard it was good | 07:39 |
| jwhitlark | k. I've been off irc lately, but I'm back. I had weird stuff happening around the holidays, my wife had a friend over from Turkey, and we bought her a new car, ... | 07:39 |
| jwhitlark | seele's | 07:39 |
| jwhitlark | ? | 07:39 |
| imbrandon | ummm celeste at UDS | 07:39 |
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| imbrandon | seele == irc name | 07:40 |
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| imbrandon | http://weblog.obso1337.org/2007/more-on-the-scale-women-in-oss-mini-conf/ | 07:40 |
| jwhitlark | thanks, just a sec. | 07:40 |
| imbrandon | KDE useability person | 07:40 |
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| jwhitlark | ah, she was in the mini-conf. on friday. I flew down on Sat. morn. (wayyyy to early) so no. | 07:41 |
| jwhitlark | s/to/too/ | 07:42 |
| imbrandon | ahh | 07:45 |
| imbrandon | yea | 07:45 |
| jwhitlark | Funniest part was when the Xen source was giving a presentation on a XP laptop, and while he was in powerpoint, outlook crashed and popped up a huge error msg on the screen. O:-) Of course, we didn't boo, jeer, and laugh. | 07:45 |
| imbrandon | hahahah rock on | 07:45 |
| imbrandon | yea actualy that was one of the big reasons i wanted to go is see the XEN guys | 07:46 |
| imbrandon | but they will be at Ubuntu Live / OSCON | 07:46 |
| imbrandon | see i just need a job like jono and get paid to come to conf's ;) | 07:46 |
| jwhitlark | It was a good overview of the architecture of Xen. | 07:46 |
| jwhitlark | me too. | 07:47 |
| zul | imbrandon: or get a sugar mommy | 07:47 |
| imbrandon | zul, hahah exactly | 07:47 |
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| imbrandon | zul, you gonna try to make it to portland? not many people i have talked to are | 07:47 |
| jwhitlark | my work doesn't force me to take vacation for conferences, but I'm on call during them, and I have to pay my own way. | 07:47 |
| zul | immwhen is portland again? | 07:47 |
| imbrandon | jwhitlark, same here, i get all the time off i want and a small ( not normal ) ammount of pay IF they are intrested in the conf | 07:48 |
| imbrandon | zul, july | 07:48 |
| imbrandon | 22-26 or some such | 07:48 |
| imbrandon | www.ubuntulive.com , its piggybacking OSCON | 07:48 |
| zul | imbrandon: nope ill be taking 3 weeks off in march or my wife would kill me | 07:48 |
| jwhitlark | man, I so want to go to oscon, not sure I can afford it... | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | ahh 22-24 not 26 | 07:49 |
| asimon | Hello, lintian will report an outdated-autotools-helper-file error for cdbs packages, even through the package depends on autotools-dev and cdbs will update the obsolete config-guess file automatically. Is this right? | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | jwhitlark, thats why ubuntu live is at the same time same place | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | less cost | 07:50 |
| zul | imbrandon: besides the baby is going to be in hospital during my "vacation" | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | ahhh | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | dosent sound good | 07:50 |
| zul | could be worse | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | hum | 07:51 |
| jwhitlark | hope everything goes well. | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | i need to reload my mac today , osx + linux or linux only? ( that rehtorical ) | 07:51 |
| zul | it should.. | 07:51 |
| jwhitlark | good. keep us posted. | 07:52 |
| imbrandon | how was herding cats ? | 07:52 |
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| imbrandon | man where is whiprush when you need him | 07:53 |
| jwhitlark | have you seen the version online? | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | not yet, been busy busy busy at work | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | today starts my 4 days off | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | so i'll probably check it out | 07:54 |
| jwhitlark | he said he changed it only a little, so I saw something else. | 07:54 |
| jwhitlark | it's good. | 07:54 |
| jwhitlark | do ya know if feisty herd 3 is stable enough to use for day to day? | 07:54 |
| imbrandon | i still am trying to convince him for a LugRadio LIVE in the USA | 07:54 |
| imbrandon | jwhitlark, i am using it day to day, there are some quarks but its ok if you are already use to ubuntu | 07:55 |
| imbrandon | i wouldent recomend a newb using it | 07:55 |
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| imbrandon | Tonio_ and Riddell have done some amazing stuff on the KDE side this time , making things much more intergrated and such | 07:56 |
| jwhitlark | that would be cool. LugRadio rocks. | 07:56 |
| imbrandon | everythging kinda flows now | 07:56 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 07:56 |
| jwhitlark | I'm going to install and test today, but wasn't sure if I should point it at my home dir, or just do a standalone install with a separate home dir. | 07:57 |
| jwhitlark | sounds like there's not any show stoppers. | 07:57 |
| imbrandon | i would defiantly backup your ~/ but should be fine | 07:57 |
| jwhitlark | k. | 07:57 |
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| jwhitlark | jono said boot flies now. | 07:58 |
| jwhitlark | ajmitch, morning | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | beryl is kinda unstable on it, but i dunno if thats feisty or beryl itsself | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | yea boot and shitdown both fly | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | shutdown* | 07:58 |
| jwhitlark | beryl?, unstable?? Noooo..... | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | lol | 07:58 |
| imbrandon | leaste now when it crashes it falls back to kwin | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | thats nice | 07:59 |
| imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 07:59 |
| jwhitlark | I've really gotten used to beryl, though. makes vdesktops intuitive for me. | 08:00 |
| imbrandon | yea there are somethings i almost cant do without now, but overall i turn most of it off | 08:00 |
| imbrandon | and it helps when i woo and ahh the vista moonites at work with it | 08:00 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 08:00 |
| jwhitlark | yup. very nice when you turn off the pointless stuff. | 08:01 |
| jwhitlark | oops. time for our weekly meeting. catch ya'll in 3 hours :-[ | 08:02 |
| imbrandon | l8tr | 08:02 |
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| dholbach | if you didn't vote yet, vote: http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+polls | 08:28 |
| dholbach | good night | 08:28 |
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| === ajmitch should probably vote for the motu council | ||
| ajmitch | or at least check if I put in a vote for everyone :) | 08:36 |
| bluefoxicy | Is there a debian whatever recind software packaging notice for amap? | 08:39 |
| bluefoxicy | it's not in feisty's repos anymore. | 08:39 |
| bluefoxicy | (I wish nmap would just eat amap) | 08:40 |
| crimsun | http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/amap/news/20060214T220807Z.html | 08:40 |
| bluefoxicy | thanks | 08:40 |
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| ajmitch | hello crimsun | 08:41 |
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| bluefoxicy | oh, gpl with subclauses | 08:43 |
| bluefoxicy | didn't know that. | 08:43 |
| bluefoxicy | crimsun: that's dumb | 08:44 |
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| bluefoxicy | it's non-free but they pulled it completely | 08:45 |
| ajmitch | complain to debian, we can't fix it for them here | 08:45 |
| bluefoxicy | Yes I know, but it's debian | 08:46 |
| bluefoxicy | last time I asked a question in #debian I got banned for 2 years | 08:46 |
| ajmitch | I wonder why | 08:46 |
| bluefoxicy | because I was running mandrake and trying to figure out how some random command worked on debian but didn't have it in front of me probably. | 08:47 |
| zul | bluefoxicy: i think that was a rhetorical question :) | 08:49 |
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| bluefoxicy | zul: Usually when people ask me rhetorical questions, they're followed up by, "Oh, ok, my fault for asking" | 08:52 |
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| bluefoxicy | for example, "Why do you keep talking about Josh?" can end in something very graphic | 08:53 |
| ajmitch | I think we'd just tune you out | 08:53 |
| ajmitch | or kick you, whichever is more effective at the time | 08:53 |
| bluefoxicy | XD | 08:53 |
| bluefoxicy | ajmitch: I've actually had someone threaten to kill me, and then ban me from life | 08:54 |
| ajmitch | I can understand that | 08:54 |
| bluefoxicy | anyway I have class | 08:54 |
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| rmjb | Hey guys | 09:49 |
| rmjb | apt-get update on feisty and now I can't install anything | 09:50 |
| _ion | Perhaps it's just a temporary problem with your mirror. | 09:52 |
| rmjb | maybe... I'll check back later | 09:53 |
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| Burgwork | ajmitch: they are clammering for your blood on sounder | 11:15 |
| === Laser_away goes to look | ||
| ajmitch | huh? | 11:16 |
| Burgwork | ajmitch: they want your network auth client | 11:16 |
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| ajmitch | oh well | 11:17 |
| bddebian | heh | 11:19 |
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| ajmitch | Burgwork: it may make it into the archive in a month or two :) | 11:23 |
| Burgwork | ajmitch: right | 11:23 |
| === Burgwork whips ajmitch :) | ||
| ajmitch | don't whip me | 11:23 |
| ajmitch | I can't push it any harder | 11:24 |
| _ion | Network auth client? | 11:24 |
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| Burgwork | _ion: making it easy to connect Ubuntu to LDAP servers | 11:24 |
| _ion | Wow, sounds great | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | just some stuff to screw up config files | 11:25 |
| _ion | Although i find configuring the actual server more annoying than configuring the clients. :-) | 11:25 |
| Burgwork | yes, but you only have to do the server once or twice, usually | 11:25 |
| _ion | True. | 11:26 |
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| Fujitsu | Hey LaserJock. | 11:26 |
| LaserJock | morning | 11:28 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 11:29 |
| rmjb | my isp's dns server isn't responding :( | 11:30 |
| rmjb | anyone has an ip of a dns server I can use? | 11:30 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 11:30 |
| rmjb | hey sistpoty | 11:30 |
| sistpoty | hi rmjb | 11:31 |
| bddebian | Hi sistpoty | 11:31 |
| sistpoty | hi bddebian | 11:31 |
| rmjb | bddebian: I didn't backport the world, I upgraded | 11:31 |
| bddebian | rmjb: Good man :-) | 11:31 |
| rmjb | can I have your dns server ip? | 11:32 |
| crimsun | 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 | 11:32 |
| rmjb | thanks much | 11:32 |
| bddebian | Just grab some root level dns servers ;-P | 11:32 |
| crimsun | disclosure: that's provided by opendns. | 11:32 |
| rmjb | that'll work for me :) | 11:32 |
| _ion | I have my own DNS server i use from my network. | 11:33 |
| rmjb | me too... but it's dnsmasq, so it needs an upstream dns server to work | 11:33 |
| LaserJock | wahoo, Seville | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: you just heard? | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | not exactly, but I had to say it | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | haha | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | I hope you have a good time there :) | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | it'll be tricky | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | my brother is getting married May 12th | 11:37 |
| bddebian | ?? | 11:37 |
| ajmitch | and it starts when? | 11:37 |
| sistpoty | gah... and I guess I'll still be programming on my thesis :( | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | UDS ends on the 11th | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | sistpoty: that's annoying | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | I think I might have to cut out early again | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: ah, cutting it close | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | I guess I really shouldn't go at all | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | why? | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | I've got a lot to do here, and these UDSs suck me in too much ;-) | 11:39 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:39 |
| ajmitch | that's ok, I don't plan to go | 11:39 |
| LaserJock | that's too bad | 11:39 |
| === ajmitch shrugs | ||
| ajmitch | won't make much difference really | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | we need uber MOTU support | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | I'm sure 1 or 2 MOTUs may be sponsored | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | but not me | 11:40 |
| bddebian | not me | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | lies | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | Seville? | 11:41 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock: seville? | 11:41 |
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| imbrandon | heya ajmitch LaserJock Burgwork | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | did I spell it wrong? | 11:41 |
| sistpoty | hi imbrandon | 11:41 |
| Burgwork | no | 11:41 |
| imbrandon | heya sistpoty | 11:41 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock: where is the announcement? | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | users-announce | 11:42 |
| sistpoty | Burgwork: on ubuntu-announce | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | hey LaserJock | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | they only just announced today? | 11:42 |
| bddebian | Later gang | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | not, sure | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | i guess so i havent seen it yet | 11:42 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, bye | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | cya bddebian | 11:42 |
| sistpoty | later bddebian | 11:42 |
| imbrandon | but i havent checked my mail today yet either | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | I uh, found out by other means | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: well it's been known in edubuntu circles for a little while :) | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | & it was on the wiki several days ago | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 11:43 |
| Lutin | hay there | 11:43 |
| sistpoty | hi Lutin | 11:43 |
| Lutin | hi sistpoty | 11:44 |
| LaserJock | that's why I'm suprised Burgwork didn't see it | 11:44 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock: I was majorly busy this weekend with other things | 11:44 |
| Lutin | a little question about debian/copyright .. if I have several files licensed under GPL, but one is (C) 2006 and the other (C) 2005, do I need to separate them in debian/copyright | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | Lutin: being verbose is never wrong ;) | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | but is often not fun ;-) | 11:46 |
| Lutin | sistpoty: I'm packaging mlt, and a grep -Rin copyright | wc -l returns about 310 lines. sounds important for me ;) | 11:46 |
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| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | sistpoty: you're assigning bugs to sabdfl? | 11:48 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: sure, sabdfl can fix all bugs | 11:48 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: erm... look at the bug ;) | 11:48 |
| ajmitch | bug 83348 | 11:48 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 83348 in gnome-app-install "Need more applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83348 | 11:48 |
| Lutin | sistpoty: is it required, or just a 'could be good' thing ? | 11:48 |
| sistpoty | Lutin: if it's all from the same authors, it's imo not required, though I'm no copyright guru | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch! | 11:49 |
| sistpoty | hi Hobbsee | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | hey sistpoty! | 11:50 |
| Fujitsu | Hey Hobbsee. | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | sistpoty: StevenK was asking to be added to the reviewers group, if no one else picked that up please - on REVU | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | hey Fujitsu! | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: lastnode was looking for you yesterday | 11:50 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: does he deserve it? | 11:50 |
| Lutin | sistpoty: ok | 11:50 |
| sistpoty | Hobbsee: will be fixed in a minute ;) | 11:50 |
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| Hobbsee | ajmitch: he's a MOTU and a DD. on that basis, no :P | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | maybe we should have a 3 week vote on it ;-) | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: haha | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | yay, UDS is announced :) | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: done anyway | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: cool, thanks | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | now we can make him review more :P | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: I'm a MOTU & DD, and I don't deserve it | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | bah | 11:51 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: you forgot core. heh | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | that doesn't matter | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | when did ajmitch turn into bddebian? scary | 11:52 |
| sistpoty | ajmitch: ah, cool then I don't need to mangle the db... strange enough I never use the scripts siretart and /me wrote once for this purpose | 11:52 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 11:52 |
| Lutin | sistpoty: btw, don't really know what to do with bug 77977 :// | 11:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 77977 in evolution-jescs "[SRU] [ftbfs] typo in evolution-jescs-2.8.2/debian/rules" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77977 | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | sistpoty: it's quicker to use the script as long as I ignore the usage warning that lies ;) | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | -l LEVEL, --level=LEVEL | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | 0 = contributor, 1 = reviewer, 2 = admin | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | of course you can't pass 0,1 or 2 | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | but you have to spell out the level | 11:53 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: I do read my scrollback when I've been pinged :) | 11:53 |
| Fujitsu | (I think I know what it was about, though) | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: I'm not bddebian | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: cool :P | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: bddebian actually does stuff :) | 11:53 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: just checking | 11:53 |
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| sistpoty | Lutin: for the evolution-jesc bug, it would be good if you did some bug triage... | 11:55 |
| Hobbsee | white: presumably you've seen The next motu-meeting will be on Wednesday, Feb 14th, 10.00h UTC.? | 11:55 |
| sistpoty | Lutin: just try to figure what difference kdm has than you... maybe that might give some clue what goes wrong | 11:55 |
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| === Fujitsu will probably be about 30 minutes late to the meeting, due to TAFE. | ||
| === ajmitch might try & make it to the meeting | ||
| Fujitsu | (it'll probably be finished by the time I get there, of course) | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | depends on what people want to argue about | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: what is it in local time? | 11:56 |
| Lutin | sistpoty: ok, thanks | 11:56 |
| Fujitsu | 1000+1100 = 2100, Hobbsee. | 11:56 |
| LaserJock | 2:00am here | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 11:56 |
| Hobbsee | so tomorrow night, hrmmm | 11:57 |
| ajmitch | yes | 11:57 |
| ajmitch | means I'll have to stay up late | 11:57 |
| sistpoty | Lutin: I'd prefer it if I had the info if the new bug was caused by the update (bad) or is an entirely different issue (than we could do the update anyways) | 11:57 |
| === sistpoty will have to get up early for the meeting *g* | ||
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| Adri2000 | sistpoty: early = 11am? :p | 11:59 |
| sistpoty | Adri2000: before noon == early for me :P | 11:59 |
| Hobbsee | that's my form of early | 11:59 |
| Adri2000 | heh | 11:59 |
| ajmitch | back later | 12:00 |
| sistpoty | later ajmitch | 12:00 |
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