=== mohammad [n=mohammad@CPE001346f4a717-CM0011aea585d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] Do you think that bug #66292 worth an update to proposed? [12:17] Malone bug 66292 in sylpheed "Please bump sylpheed to 2.2.9" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66292 [12:20] bigon: if you backport the individual fixes, I see no problem with an SRU. however a new upstream version should go to -backports [12:21] sistpoty: ark === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-79-39.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plopix [n=erik@pD9537B16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-63-150.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kozz [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kozz [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] bddebian: hello [01:16] bddebian: I have applied all comments you gave me on zekr, would you please kindly review it? [01:17] gn8 everyone [01:23] mohammad: Yep, give me a little bit [01:25] :) === kozz_ [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] !seen jdong [01:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jdong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] Hi, I had a question regarding the policy on packages in universe. The upstreamdev package is currently a bit old and I'd like to see a more recent version packaged (which fixes a lot of bugs). My question is, is it possible to have the new version included in feisty at this point in time in the schedule? [01:33] !where seen went [01:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about where seen went - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:33] ^^ Seveas ..... :( [01:35] jrib: as we are in UVF now, it depends which bugs are fixed. the more severe the more likely to get it included [01:36] geser: it's still pretty early. file a UVF exception === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] Hobbsee: I've already filed one :) [01:37] ah [01:37] geser: I see, well the current package in feisty won't be able to use ubuntu-nl's pastebin since that has been updated since we released the version that got packaged. That's probably the biggest issue. Should I make sure I find a packager or create a suitable package myself before filing a UVF exception? [01:38] yes [01:38] jrib: you should have a package ready [01:38] "Please note that we expect requesters to have an updated package already prepared and tested!" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 [01:39] jrib: that's a good reason to include a new version [01:40] ok, last question: The package in feisty was brought over from debian. We've been unable to contact the original packager. Are there any issues with a new packager maintaining the new package? [01:40] bah. cant we just say "can we have a new version of basket" "yes" [01:41] jrib: that should be no problem === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-59-176.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] geser, Adri2000, Hobbsee: thank you all very much [01:43] vil: Hello vil I have applied the comment you gave me about using cdbs instead of Makefile. would you please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4350 [zekr] now? [01:47] mahammad, i will take look at it, though i don't promise it will be any soon now (like tomorrow) [01:48] vil: ok thank you :) [01:48] mohammad, sorry for mistyping your name [01:48] see you all :) [01:52] anyone see irony on multiple levels in bug 666? [01:52] Malone bug 666 in malone "can't file a bug on Ubuntu" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666 [01:53] no [02:03] Ack, 666 [02:05] jdong: ha wow, that's a nice find === Lathiat laughs [02:06] well apparently some of us don't have a sense of humor... :) [02:07] jdong, that wasn't your find :P [02:07] i mean jrib [02:07] bah [02:07] whatever [02:07] now revu my packages :P [02:08] tsmithe with his devilish mind first came across that :) [02:08] :) [02:08] in a flood storm of #ubuntuforums with bug commands :D [02:08] hehe [02:08] I did file bug 84647 against Ubugtu for that :) [02:08] Malone bug 84647 in ubuntu-bots "Ubugtu not throttled -DoS/flooding" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84647 === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@25-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] hi, I would like to be added as a REVU reviewer. what can i do for it? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] vil: Become an MOTU :-) [02:57] bddebian, i am :) [02:58] Then you already are :-) === elkbuntu_ [n=melissa@ppp253-83.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] bddebian: no, it requires some DB tweaking [02:58] Oh really? [02:58] yes really [02:58] I thought they were synced. Hmm, sorry === bddebian shuts up [02:59] the uploaders keyring is [02:59] revu accounts in the db aren't [02:59] vil: revu email address? [03:00] ajmitch: vladimir.lapacek@gmail.com [03:01] Altering vladimir.lapacek@gmail.com to level reviewer [03:01] k, done [03:03] ajmitch, thx [03:03] i uploaded a new package to revu, only to find out that it was not new there. [03:03] it's a new upstream version however [03:03] but i did the packaging completely from scratch [03:04] it's not currently in ubuntu [03:04] and it's name is enblend [03:05] tsmithe: apparently thta's not in the archives at all? [03:05] no it's not [03:05] oh, hub did the original package.. [03:05] yes i see that [03:08] however, is what i've done ok? [03:10] hijacking a package generally isn't appreciated [03:11] ajmitch, i know [03:11] as i said, i hadn't realised i had until five minutes ago [03:12] hub, are you here? [03:17] well - i'm going to bed [03:17] i'll pm hub [03:22] done [03:22] night all === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] n8 === alephant [n=cmd@c-24-3-52-93.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] Hi all... I need to rebuild the stock kernel with a slight tweak to the .config -- I need the version numbers to match $(uname -r) so that my modules-nonfree can modprobe. Is this make-kpkg, or dpkg-buildpackage, or something else altogether? [04:03] I know I'm slightly off-topic, please have mercy :-) [04:35] ajmitch: it is actually the second time somebody tries to hijack it. [04:35] ajmitch: actually said package would already be there if I could compile it [04:35] ajmitch: but with 512MB I can't === _ion [i=johan@kiviniemi.name] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:37] hub: a rather heavy package? [04:38] ajmitch: just g++ being a hog [04:38] ah [04:38] the official answer is "get more RAM" [04:44] binary packages should be smaller than the corresponding source package generally, shouldn't they? [04:45] the bad thing about living in australia is probably the fact that there is always a huge mail backlog on the mls in the morning :( === white waves in and says hi [04:46] Hey white. === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] Laser_away, generally. [04:46] I'm just having fun watching my mirror of Feisty grow [04:47] Fujitsu: have you read debian-melbourne@ ? [04:47] Fujitsu: anibal suggested to catch up on wednesday night [04:47] trying to figure out if I have enough space on this partition or not [04:47] white: I can't do Wednesdays, I have TAFE. Plus the parents probably wouldn't let me go :( [04:48] bah === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] I'm up to php in Universe :-) [04:50] Laser_away: Why are you mirroring it? [04:51] crazy person [04:51] for fun, kinda [04:51] Fujitsu: parents won't let you meet strange, slightly disturbing geeks at night? [04:51] how annoying [04:51] Heheh. [04:51] I have enough machines that I thought it might be good [04:52] plus I wanted to be able to get source packages fast :-) [04:52] I'd like to have a source mirror, but it'll take a couple of months to mirror, I think. [04:52] but the main reason is I'm learning how to use reprepo [04:52] Reprepo for mirroring? [04:52] yep [04:53] I'm grabbing i386 and source for Feisty Main and Universe [04:53] I'm almost 7GB into it [04:54] that'll feed 3 machines [04:55] Fujitsu: well just go ahead and write your answer on debian-melbourne, I am sure we find a date where we can catch up [04:55] at least we still need to catch up for keysigning anyway :) === ajmitch should try & get over to melbourne sometime [04:55] me too ;-) [04:56] white: I'll write a reply in a sec. [04:56] ajmitch, how long since you've been here? [04:56] it's just across the trench for ajmitch and I [04:56] my trench is just a bit bigger ;-) [04:56] Laser_away, hah. [04:56] Fujitsu: july [04:57] time to come back [04:57] I don't think I visited at all in 2005 [04:57] white: Definitely. [04:57] Melbourne == goooood. [04:57] was there for nearly 2 months in 2004 [04:57] Better than Dunedin === Fujitsu ducks. === ajmitch would need to check the passport to remember when he's been [04:58] Laser_away, you realise that i386+source feisty main/universe is a few MiB under 30GiB? === Fujitsu kicks debootstrap for being so slow. [05:03] Fujitsu: I'll find out [05:03] I'm not sure why source seems sorta smallish so far [05:03] `Download all files that we need to get (29976 MiB).' [05:04] I was expecting 30-40GB [05:04] when this partition gets full I'll just make a new one and move everything over there [05:05] I just hit the trigger before thinking "Oh, I should check to see if I have enough space" ;-) [05:07] but I'm suprised that I'm almost to "r" for Universe source (no Main yet) and I've only got 7.0GB [05:08] but I'm guessing Gnome+KDE+Kernel+Xorg will take a bit [05:10] universe is about 21GB, so it can't be doing it in order... [05:10] it is though [05:11] I'll just have to see [05:15] @#$^$%@$#^ hard drive :-( === kro [n=user@pool-72-84-46-79.clrkwv.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] bddebian: is it dying? [05:16] <_ion> 29976 MiB is actually 744 MiB less than 30 GiB. [05:17] heh === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] <_ion> Of course the filesystem overhead may add a lot to it. :-) [05:17] Laser_away: Either that or it's just tired of doing reviews :-) [05:18] bddebian: my drive died suddenly not long ago [05:18] I was trying to install OpenSuse [05:18] I think it was a sign [05:18] heh [05:19] so it was a good excuse to buy a bigger drive [05:19] I hadn't bought any computer parts for over a year [05:19] so I went all out and got a 160GB ATA drive ;-) === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WikiMan [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-145-19.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] laserjock: you have a blog? haha, i searched for REVU and found your blog === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:50] Ademan: I do yes [06:51] anyways, is there any way to snag binary packages off of revu in any way? [06:52] they're not autobuilt [06:52] figured [06:52] tiber is not a fast box [06:52] where DO packages get built? out of curiosity? [06:53] on my machine [06:53] for REVU [06:53] geeze, really? are you just a volunteer LaserJock? [06:53] yes [06:54] that's how we do it [06:54] we build on our own machines [06:54] oh, the submitter builds on their machine? === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] once it goes into Ubuntu proper it get's sent to the the Ubuntu build farm [06:54] most of us are 'just volunteers' [06:54] Ademan: reviewers too [06:55] oh so the packages going into the repositories are built at the "Ubuntu build farm" though? [06:55] There are no Canonical-employed people who work primarily on universe, are there? [06:55] Fujitsu: no, dholbach works mostly on main now [06:55] nope [06:55] and ogra on Edubuntu [06:56] Ademan: any upload to ubuntu from us is source-only [06:56] I thought so... :( [06:56] & by any canonical developer too [06:56] Fujitsu: that's the point, that there be community support for it [06:56] debian manages alright [06:56] oh ok, i guess i didn't phrase my question, cause when i said "where do packages get built" i meant, the ones that go into the repositories, oh well [06:56] but you were talking about REVU [06:57] ajmitch: I guess. [06:57] yeah sorry, geeze couldn't you read my mind? lol [06:57] ajmitch: But the vast majority of debian's packages have dedicated maintainers. [06:57] TheMuso: sure, and we have teams who maintain things in ubuntu as well [06:57] We are responsible for a large chunk of debian, all 60 odd of us. [06:57] TheMuso: And there are actually a significant number of active DDs. [06:58] Fujitsu: True that. [06:58] ajmitch: True. [06:58] TheMuso, a lot of that 60 are main-only, and a lot aren't active. [06:58] Fujitsu: Right. === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] anybody know if gparted handles lvm ok? [08:18] What do you mean by OK? [08:18] I'm just not so great with lvm yet [08:19] I *think* I might have an lvm partition [08:19] gparted won't destroy it, but you can't use it to adjust it. [08:19] You think? [08:19] gparted sees an "unknown" partition and under flags it says lvm [08:19] that's the thing [08:19] I don't really remember creating it [08:20] it's not in fstab or mounted [08:20] Ah, it handles it worse than it did in Dapper... It used to at least show the LVs at separate devices. [08:20] Are your other partitions there? [08:20] my regular partitions are there [08:21] I don't know if I even have a volume group [08:21] Try running sudo vgdisplay, and see if it does anything. [08:24] what package is vgdisplay in? [08:24] lvm2 [08:24] (not installed by default since Edgy, grrr.) [08:24] Once you've installed that, you'll probably need to run vgscan before vgdisplay will see anything. [08:24] I'm guessing not having lvm installed probably was an issue ;-) [08:24] bah [08:24] something's not right [08:24] maybe it needs a reboot or something [08:25] It may have installed something in the initramfs, yes. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:25] Hey Hobbsee. [08:26] bah, I'll do it when my repo mirroring finishes/dies === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75BF3.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] good morning [08:27] Hi dholbach. [08:27] hi dholbach [08:27] hi Fujitsu! [08:27] LaserJock: what do you use for building your repo? [08:27] dholbach: what is the plan with motu council in regards to new members? [08:27] morning dholbach [08:28] dholbach: am I to go with TB still this week, or is Motu council fully in charge now? [08:28] Lure: the poll will finish on 15th [08:28] the MC is not ready yet [08:29] hi Hobbsee, hi Fujitsu [08:29] dholbach: ok [08:29] Hobbsee: reprepo [08:30] LaserJock: which isnt in the repos? [08:30] it is [08:30] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ search reprepo [08:30] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ [08:30] !info reprepo feisty [08:30] Package reprepo does not exist in feisty [08:30] LaserJock: where? [08:31] doh, did I spell it wrong [08:31] reprepro === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] !info reprepro feisty [08:31] reprepro: debian package repository producer. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 199 kB, installed size 500 kB [08:31] the only thing I hate about it so far is the name [08:31] ehhe [08:34] Is it at all possible to use/control network manager from the CLI? [08:35] heh, you can get rid of it from CLI ;-) [08:35] yay, TheMuso hasnt drowned! [08:35] Hobbsee: This weather rocks!!! [08:35] & why would TheMuso have drowned? [08:35] ajmitch: because it's very wet [08:35] is it slightly wet there? [08:35] that's good [08:35] TheMuso: as long as you dont have to go out in it, yes :D [08:36] I understand it's been a bit dry :) === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] hehe [08:36] Ok, so what launches network manager? [08:36] Either I can use it in the CLI, or it goes. [08:37] magic [08:37] What???????? dbus? [08:37] yeah === TheMuso choaks. [08:38] Bah and so does dhcdbd === TheMuso now has full control of his network devices once again. === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] dholbach: you couldnt just grant us a UVFe for basket now, could you? (between 1.0rc1 and 1.0 final) or do i have to file it properly? [09:14] there's no UVF yet [09:15] not for universe [09:15] I thought it was the 22nd? [09:15] no? [09:15] No. [09:15] 22nd is FF. [09:15] 8th was UVF. [09:15] I thought it was delayed for Univerese. [09:15] dholbach: it's gone feb 8. but if you say i can put it thru, then please ack the sync :P [09:15] dholbach: no, that was only FF, not UVF. which is kinda silly [09:16] Hobbsee: what is the launchpad bug no? [09:16] dholbach: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/basket/+bug/84678 [09:16] Malone bug 84678 in basket "Please sync basket (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:16] dholbach: havent done the diff and all of that yet [09:16] gracias [09:16] done [09:18] dholbach: thanks [09:18] dholbach: does that mean you'll do the same for ksynaptics/libsynaptics? [09:18] dholbach: i dont think the bug's filed yet [09:19] if you have a good reason to update it - we're fairly early in the cycle still [09:19] dholbach: how about "the current version doesnt work too well" === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] if you can attach bits of the changelog i'm sure it's going to be alright [09:22] I can't say "sure it'll be alright", but i'll sure have look at it [09:22] dholbach: okay. will have to wait on the debian bit to update [09:23] ok [09:23] cool [09:24] bah. ksynaptics will need a merge, but libsynaptics is a sync === fabo [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === roma [n=jason@c-69-254-140-55.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@vds456.sivit.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=maxenced@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] hi [10:16] does ${python:Depends} should add python-gtk2 & python-glade2 to Depends if software needs it ? [10:20] Sp4rKy: I doubt it. === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] k, so i add them === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-59-176.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-27-37.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === helge [n=helge@203.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] dholbach: ping? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] Hobbsee: pong === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.113] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] dholbach: can you ack https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsynaptics/+bug/84681 too please? [11:55] Malone bug 84681 in libsynaptics "Please sync libsynaptics (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] dholbach: we work with debian for all this stuff - yay :) [11:56] +* rewriting singleton pad class (breaks compability!) ??? [11:56] dholbach: please ignore hte ubuntu versoin on that changelog - it's a sync. [11:56] dholbach: means that the new ksynaptics will need to come in too [11:56] please take a look at what it breaks there === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] hm [11:57] ok [11:57] acked [11:57] please refer to the normal process for the other stuff [11:57] i'm out for lunch and buying hardware now [11:57] see you later === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:58] dholbach: okay. FYI, i'ts only ksynaptics that depends on that, which we'll bring in the new versoin. [11:58] (sorry, was being talked to) [11:59] yeah, I checked [11:59] it's ok === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] moin all === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-8-108.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] Fujitsu: was it you who did the reports on kde, and MOTUscience, with debian/ubuntu packages? [01:09] when is the next MOTU meeting btw? i am curious if my suggestion will be discussed === ThiefOfBaghdad [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] white: which suggestion? :) === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-169-146-143.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] (suggestion = automatically writing a mail to everyone who just uploaded a new package to universe which is not in debian if they might want to consider bringing it into debian as well or at least looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributingToDebian ) [01:11] ahhh [01:11] or in other words i do not have to do it semi-manually anymore :) === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] Hobbsee, you able to do a revu? (tis for the good cause of ubuntustudio ;) ) [01:12] tsmithe: right now, i'm fighting madison-lite [01:12] hehe ok [01:20] Hobbsee: well i am still looking for an answer or do you reckon it is not worth to discuss? :) [01:21] white: sounds good to me [01:21] white: but then you have to find an elusive DD, no? [01:21] what do you mean? [01:22] white: as in, it's known that there arent terribly many DD"s around. at least not around in #ubuntu-motu [01:23] seems that way, whehter it's true or not, though [01:23] if you are looking for a sponsor you can go via #debian-mentors (oftc), debian-mentors@l.d.o. or utnubu-discuss@l.alioth.d.o. (exclusively for MOTUs and ubuntu folks :) )or ask the DDs in this channel if they are around === white is horrible [01:23] at least a horrible cook [01:24] hehe [01:24] yes, i'm starting to see that you arent so high and mighty and perfect, and wouldnt come talk to us lowly ubuntu people :P [01:24] Hah! [01:24] rotfl [01:25] Hobbsee: well actually i am just here for you ;) [01:25] . o O(i was never good at flirting ...) [01:25] hehe [01:25] white: Don't give up your day job, that's dreadful. :-P [01:25] :) [01:25] hehe === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] white: if you say things like that, then i'll tend to utilise it. ask StevenK how many packages he uploaded for me before i got MOTU :P === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] StevenK is motu eh... [01:31] could he do a revu for me? [01:31] tsmithe: if you convince him... [01:31] Hobbsee: go ahead, i feel like i want to take this challenge [01:31] good good === Gazer [n=gazer@200.68.69.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] StevenK, are you up for a review? as i said to Hobbsee, it's for the great and just cause of UbuntuStudio ;) [01:32] white: but then i'd have to find something to upload to debian. and i got beaten, for basket. [01:32] Now look what you've done! [01:32] tsmithe: make white review it :P === white is wondering what UbuntuStudio is [01:32] http://ubuntustudio.org [01:32] but, erm, it's pretty elusive [01:32] tsmithe: Is it on REVU? [01:32] StevenK, yup [01:32] wired ;) [01:33] In that case, I'll think about it. [01:33] white, it's just a theme, a tweaked installed, and different packages [01:33] StevenK, that's very definitive of you :P [01:33] thanks [01:34] ah so it is like the theme and stuff as you said [01:34] yeah [01:34] i thougt it is a music studio [01:34] and a choice of the lowtency kernel [01:34] hum [01:34] !info ubuntustudio-audio feisty [01:34] eth [01:34] ubuntustudio-audio: Ubuntu Studio Audio Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1 (feisty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB [01:34] *etc [01:34] and then there's one for video, graphics [01:35] we're gonna expand in v2, do more cool stuff like tweaking settings, portaudio with jack perhaps [01:35] interesting things [01:36] oh and white, you can help me get my packages into debian! [01:36] Shhh, don't tell him a DD [01:37] tsmithe: I'd suggest you make friends with http://mentors.debian.net/ for that purpose. [01:37] hehe ok [01:37] http://paste.debian.net/21782 [01:37] if somebody needs to know what the suites in debian are [01:38] we just figured that out :) [01:38] Bwahaha [01:38] There's two states on archive.debian.org, though [01:38] white, hehe [01:39] wooo! cinelerra has finished pulling from bzr... now i can get to work sorting out the licence [01:39] but it's a pita to push [01:39] 483MiB... :( [01:39] tsmithe: What's the link to the REVU thing you want me to look at? [01:39] tsmithe: yeah if you need anything, just tell me [01:39] . o O(i hope this wasn't a mistake) [01:39] hahaha [01:39] StevenK, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4354 [01:39] tsmithe: and if you ever need sponsoring StevenK is a DD [01:39] white, cool [01:39] StevenK, cool [01:39] white: Commonly known as "Don't make me regret this!" [01:40] BAH! [01:40] hehe === StevenK kicks white === white hides [01:40] StevenK, now your in for it too! mwhaaha [01:40] white: and you arent? [01:40] . o O(i need to get rid of my cloak) [01:40] tsmithe: i can attack StevenK with my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! too, so that's even better [01:40] hehe ok === StevenK raises an eyebrow [01:40] Hobbsee, you need that on the lart ;) [01:41] and more !!!!s [01:41] tsmithe: yes, but i didnt make the lart. [01:41] hehe ok :) [01:46] ARGH, you Build-Depend on cvs [01:46] yeah! very argh [01:46] but it dies unless i do [01:46] Oh what? [01:46] the "autogen.sh" script that generates configure dies if it can't find cvs === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] Why does debian/manpage.1 exist? [01:47] as the manpage... [01:47] ? [01:47] You'd call it wired.1 [01:48] And stuff wired.1 into debian/manpages === lastnode [n=lastnode@124.43.234.109] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] hmm ok === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-78-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] Fujitsu, ping please [01:49] i'll update that then [01:50] Build-Depending on cvs concerns me [01:50] it concerns me too === StevenK plays === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] but there's not really i can do... [01:51] and debian/manpages just contains one line: wired.1x (as i will rename it) [01:52] right? [01:53] Looks fine [01:53] Right, autopoint -f is too blame [01:53] s/too/to/ [01:53] yeah it is [01:53] but i don't really know what to do about it [01:53] And you can't depend on Internet access to build, which it currently does. [01:53] i don't even know what that does :S [01:54] The Ubuntu buildds, for example, can't access the Internet. [01:54] ok [01:55] but i don't even know if it uses it to do anything internety [01:55] as i said, i'm not sure what it does... [01:56] root@liquified:~/wired-0.4# sh -x /usr/bin/autopoint -f >../log 2>&1 [01:56] root@liquified:~/wired-0.4# grep '+ cvs ' ../log [01:56] + cvs -d /tmp/buildd/wired-0.4/tmpcvs3792 init [01:56] + cvs checkout -rgettext-0_14_4 archive [01:57] BAD === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] yes [02:02] that is very very bad [02:02] very very very bad [02:02] hum [02:02] I'd daresay hacking autogen.sh to not call autopoint === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] StevenK, yeah [02:03] i'll see if i can do a patch [02:04] i'll also poke upstream [02:07] ajmitch, siretart, etc: Can you fix it so I can comment on REVU? [02:07] hey guys, I have a problem with a build and a menu entry: dh_installmenu: Compatibility levels before 4 are deprecated. [02:07] any idea? [02:08] you are using a debhelper compat lever smaller than 4 ? [02:08] s/lever/level/ [02:08] white: how can I know that? [02:08] :) [02:08] debian/compat [02:08] or debian/rules [02:09] let me see [02:09] white: # This is the debhelper compatibility version to use. [02:09] export DH_COMPAT=3 [02:09] in rules [02:09] pochu: that'd be it [02:10] should I change it to 4? [02:10] pochu: you might want to remove that line and use debian/compat [02:10] and put in 5 [02:10] Hobbsee, do you have Fujtsu on IM? [02:10] white: ok, I'm going to try it, ty! === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] or 4, depends on what you want [02:11] lastnode: no, sorry :( [02:11] lastnode: i'd imagine he's gone to bed though - it's a school night [02:11] Heh [02:11] . o O(good that small students like me are still on holidays) [02:12] white: why it depends? I want to fix a menu entry [02:12] pochu: the compat lever is important for debhelper's behaviour [02:12] s/lever/level/ [02:12] white: how old are you? [02:12] *narf* [02:12] Hobbsee: 20 [02:13] white: bah. oldie :P [02:13] you? [02:13] white: there would be any problem if I put 5? [02:13] Hobbsee, i see, i keep missing him. damn timezones [02:13] pochu: then you use latest compat level and can use the current features of debhelper and stuff [02:14] white: 18 [02:14] jeffey [02:14] Hobbsee: as me ;) [02:14] white: thanks :) [02:14] no worries === Nafallo feels old === StevenK does too === Hobbsee steals StevenK's walking stick === Hobbsee steals Nafallo's walking stick too === StevenK falls in a heap === Hobbsee picks StevenK up, and duct tapes him to his chair [02:15] Hobbsee: where abouts are you located? [02:15] Hah [02:15] white: sydney, australia [02:15] white: close enough to be able to thump StevenK if he doesnt do what i want, you know? :P [02:16] Hobbsee: come over here to Melb :) === StevenK doesn't take orders from no-one. Uh, sir [02:16] . o O(more keysigning ...) [02:16] StevenK: much. [02:16] bah [02:16] aussies [02:16] StevenK: even if they carry a Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? [02:16] hmm [02:16] tsmithe: i am certainly not [02:17] Hobbsee: Heh [02:17] :) [02:17] eskilstuna, sweden... === tsmithe is in the UK [02:17] white: You just happen to be in Melbourne? [02:17] yes, i am an international student [02:17] We won't hold that against yuou [02:17] s/yuou/you/ [02:17] rotfl [02:19] wooo! [02:19] StevenK: which? the fact that he's in melbourne, not sydney, or an international student? === tsmithe is happy cos he can fix the autopoint problem [02:20] first of all Melbourne rocks [02:20] why does autopoint even exist when /usr/share/gettext/archive.tar.gz does?! [02:20] second point is that the aussies love internationals [02:20] Hobbsee: The latter [02:20] ah [02:22] tsmithe: Because /usr/share/gettext/archive.tar.gz might, heaven forbid, be out of date. [02:22] Hence the update from CVS. [02:22] that's crazy :P [02:22] Just like the rest of autotools [02:22] hehe ok [02:23] you are just all jealous cos i have my super cow international power [02:23] white: that depends on where you're originally from, of course === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:24] well start to tell me from where it is good? === Hobbsee shrugs [02:25] hmm [02:25] hehe ... i am fully listening === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK uses his leet DD skills and finds out [02:25] bah === white hurries to change settings [02:26] how do i use archive.tar.gz? all the files have `,v` appended to their filenames... [02:26] That's because it's under RCS control [02:27] but, but,... [02:27] sooo... how do i fix it? [02:27] well debian ldap does not have any natioanlity field === tsmithe looks at what autopoint does [02:27] s/natioanlity/nationality/ [02:27] No, but I've made a guess. [02:27] bah yeah you can find it out [02:27] well let Hobbsee guess a bit :) [02:28] Does your Jabber ID lie? === essenza [i=root@unaffiliated/essenza] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] i can't use my jabber here, but yes my jabber id tells you about my nationality [02:29] Right. === StevenK waits for Hobbsee to guess, too. === Hobbsee isnt guessing. === tsmithe leaves [02:29] :( [02:29] so how do i sound like? [02:29] well actually i do not use my voice here at all ... [02:29] Like text, duh. [02:29] white: well, the ISP is german [02:30] ? [02:30] you mean user.skolelinux.no ? [02:30] btw, you have a LP page. https://launchpad.net/~steffen-joeris [02:30] steffen.joeris@skolelinux.de [02:30] sorry, yoru email is [02:31] damn my mails ... [02:31] Hah [02:31] Hobbsee: yes i do have a LP page, cos i wanted to look things up ... [02:31] ditto jabber, blog... [02:31] Hobbsee: Nicely done, I did the same thing with db.debian.org [02:31] bah bad google [02:32] hehe [02:32] Actually, I think you have stuff in Debian with that e-mail [02:32] stratus: hi, i was just told that my mails are marked as spam, can you maybe check that? [02:33] Yup, you o. [02:33] s/ o/ do/ [02:33] stratus: nion pointed me to you [02:33] right i did not reupload all of my packages so far [02:33] Most of them appear to be skolelinux.de, actually [02:34] well they did not need an upload [02:34] or maybe i was too lazy === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode__ [n=lastnode@124.43.229.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] stratus: bah just forget about it, i somehow mixed things up, sorry === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@p548FC096.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] Hobbsee: so you still have to say if that is any good or not [02:43] white: hrm? === Hobbsee is very sleepy [02:44] 14:23 < Hobbsee> white: that depends on where you're originally from, of course [02:44] . o O(the time might be a bit confusing) [02:46] white: yes, i got it. but i never found otu where you were from, although apparently nto germany [02:46] oh wait. [02:46] .no, presumably? === white gives up [02:47] smart. i'm half asleep [02:47] go to bed, we continue that tomorrow ;) === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-78-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable208.212-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] Anyone have any tips for installing amule on dapper from the backports? [03:12] I've never installed from the backports befors [03:12] !backports [03:12] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports [03:13] hmm... not quite === LongPointyStick [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] heh === LongPointyStick DOOMS white === LongPointyStick DOOMS Q-FUNK too. [03:16] hm. where did Hobbsee go? === Nafallo wishes LongPointyStick could come and DOOM the workers who've been drilling all day :-/ [03:17] and doom the homeland security too. [03:17] while you're at it, dig out your Dubya-like voodoo doll and make it suffer a painful death. [03:19] ok so to get a backported package I just download the deb file and install it and run apt-get -f update? 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[03:54] that sounds like an illness (no offense) === tmarble [n=tmarble@192.18.101.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] white: :-) [03:56] AnAnt: NP [03:56] white: nope, a software [03:58] AnAnt: if you are the author, please excude i did not want to offend you [03:59] s/excude/excuse/ [04:07] LongPointyStick: bad Hobbsee [04:07] bddebian, sorry to be so mean, but could you... wait.. no - i need to update it first. 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[05:00] Malone bug 84732 in python-pam "SRU: python-pam contains no binaries (edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84732 === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-82-194.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@Hikari.graham.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando_ [n=fernando@189.0.136.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pl0pix [n=erik@pD953717E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@33.90.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] How does one resolve a symlink in a shellscript? [05:51] i.e. I have a symlink /path/foolink and want to know where it points to. [05:55] jdong: readlink [05:55] Nafallo: thanks! [05:55] that's exactly what I need === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] hi folks [06:01] <_ion> Hi === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:sistpoty] : to: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | Check these packages for syncs/merges: http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html [06:01] hi _ion [06:01] Hi sistpoty [06:01] hi geser [06:02] Heya sistpoty [06:03] hi bddebian === hagi [n=hagi@adsl-89-217-152-77.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-0694.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving..."] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@25-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hagi [n=hagi@adsl-89-217-23-200.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Enchained [n=cyrille@88.166.169.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] why does a pythons based package, which builds and runs under debian sid fail to run on a ubuntu edgy box? Msg: ImportError: No module named... === ptitdav69 [n=ptitdav6@254.39.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _stefan_ [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.158.118.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] why dosn't edgy's default python version 2.4 read packages python modules from /usr/share/python-support// ? === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@h-67-102-70-2.snfccasy.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] heya bddebian sistpoty Nafallo jdong etc etc etc [07:22] :) [07:22] good mass ping :) [07:22] lol [07:22] hi imbrandon :-) [07:22] mass >5 [07:22] heh [07:24] Hi imbrandon [07:25] hi imbrandon :-D [07:25] hey hey jwhitlark , long time [07:25] hows it been going in cali [07:25] mass > 5 except in the case of Rosie O'Donnell [07:25] in which cases it's much bigger === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] ouch [07:26] you watch too much daytime tv [07:26] ;) [07:26] ;-) [07:26] I actually don't [07:26] I actually don't have a TV right now [07:26] should've brought my 32" LCD [07:26] didn't think my dorm would be big enough [07:26] but boy was I wrong [07:27] empty space everywhere [07:27] heh i have a 22in lcd monitor, and a few crt's 19 21 and 17 but only a 13 in TV [07:27] lol [07:27] i dont watch much tv === ptitdav69 [n=ptitdav6@254.39.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong doesn't either [07:27] or if i do its on the computer [07:27] he may or may not torrent Family Guy and Office, depending on if MIT IS&T is listening in on this conversation. [07:27] ;-) [07:30] well, off to Calc [07:30] have fun everyone [07:30] someone please figure out for me why avidemux is weirdly FTBFS === jdong doesn't have many brain cells left to figure that out [07:32] hey imbrandon, I've been sooo slammed.. Was hoping to see you at SCALE this weekend, but I guess you couldn't make it. jono thought you were going to show, but... [07:33] yea i was definately trying , but i dident make it [07:33] i told seele and jono i probably would but work happened === Neonightmare [n=neonight@33.90.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:34] heh, that never happens to me.:-! [07:34] the next time i "plan" on getting out is to ubuntu live in portland [07:34] but something else wiill probably catch my eye before then [07:34] ;) [07:35] hmm. I'm not sure if I'm going to that one. I've got pycon in a week, and I'll be 8 days there, not sure if my boss will let me go to another. And I want to try to get to UDS in Spain... [07:35] Do we know where in spain it will be? [07:35] not yet iirc [07:36] but i'll be going top that too [07:36] s/top/to [07:36] where is pycon? google? [07:36] Dallas. [07:36] ahh [07:36] 1 day of tutorials, 3 days of talks, 4 days of sprints. I think I'll be sprinting on trac. [07:36] thats only a few hours from here , i might try to take a day trip or something one of the days [07:37] dallas is aobut 7 hours if i rember right from here [07:37] that'd be tight. It's a good conf. [07:37] somewhere close to that [07:37] let me know, and we'll set you up with a room share, if you like. [07:37] kk cool [07:38] i still have your number in my old cell i think [07:38] if not i'll hit you up before then [07:38] if my old cell is charged up LOL === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] hum hum hum, man yea now i'm wishing i would have went to SCALE [07:39] did you catch seele's talk ? i heard it was good [07:39] k. I've been off irc lately, but I'm back. I had weird stuff happening around the holidays, my wife had a friend over from Turkey, and we bought her a new car, ... [07:39] seele's [07:39] ? [07:39] ummm celeste at UDS === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl5402A186.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] seele == irc name === asimon [n=andreas@p54A5F73A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] http://weblog.obso1337.org/2007/more-on-the-scale-women-in-oss-mini-conf/ [07:40] thanks, just a sec. [07:40] KDE useability person === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:41] ah, she was in the mini-conf. on friday. I flew down on Sat. morn. (wayyyy to early) so no. [07:42] s/to/too/ [07:45] ahh [07:45] yea [07:45] Funniest part was when the Xen source was giving a presentation on a XP laptop, and while he was in powerpoint, outlook crashed and popped up a huge error msg on the screen. O:-) Of course, we didn't boo, jeer, and laugh. [07:45] hahahah rock on [07:46] yea actualy that was one of the big reasons i wanted to go is see the XEN guys [07:46] but they will be at Ubuntu Live / OSCON [07:46] see i just need a job like jono and get paid to come to conf's ;) [07:46] It was a good overview of the architecture of Xen. [07:47] me too. [07:47] imbrandon: or get a sugar mommy [07:47] zul, hahah exactly === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:47] zul, you gonna try to make it to portland? not many people i have talked to are [07:47] my work doesn't force me to take vacation for conferences, but I'm on call during them, and I have to pay my own way. [07:47] immwhen is portland again? [07:48] jwhitlark, same here, i get all the time off i want and a small ( not normal ) ammount of pay IF they are intrested in the conf [07:48] zul, july [07:48] 22-26 or some such [07:48] www.ubuntulive.com , its piggybacking OSCON [07:48] imbrandon: nope ill be taking 3 weeks off in march or my wife would kill me [07:49] man, I so want to go to oscon, not sure I can afford it... [07:49] ahh 22-24 not 26 [07:49] Hello, lintian will report an outdated-autotools-helper-file error for cdbs packages, even through the package depends on autotools-dev and cdbs will update the obsolete config-guess file automatically. Is this right? [07:49] jwhitlark, thats why ubuntu live is at the same time same place [07:50] less cost [07:50] imbrandon: besides the baby is going to be in hospital during my "vacation" [07:50] ahhh [07:50] dosent sound good [07:50] could be worse [07:51] hum [07:51] hope everything goes well. [07:51] i need to reload my mac today , osx + linux or linux only? ( that rehtorical ) [07:51] it should.. [07:52] good. keep us posted. [07:52] how was herding cats ? === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:53] man where is whiprush when you need him [07:53] have you seen the version online? [07:53] not yet, been busy busy busy at work [07:53] today starts my 4 days off [07:54] so i'll probably check it out [07:54] he said he changed it only a little, so I saw something else. [07:54] it's good. [07:54] do ya know if feisty herd 3 is stable enough to use for day to day? [07:54] i still am trying to convince him for a LugRadio LIVE in the USA [07:55] jwhitlark, i am using it day to day, there are some quarks but its ok if you are already use to ubuntu [07:55] i wouldent recomend a newb using it === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] Tonio_ and Riddell have done some amazing stuff on the KDE side this time , making things much more intergrated and such [07:56] that would be cool. LugRadio rocks. [07:56] everythging kinda flows now === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] morning [07:57] I'm going to install and test today, but wasn't sure if I should point it at my home dir, or just do a standalone install with a separate home dir. [07:57] sounds like there's not any show stoppers. [07:57] i would defiantly backup your ~/ but should be fine [07:57] k. === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] jono said boot flies now. [07:58] ajmitch, morning [07:58] beryl is kinda unstable on it, but i dunno if thats feisty or beryl itsself [07:58] yea boot and shitdown both fly [07:58] shutdown* [07:58] beryl?, unstable?? Noooo..... [07:58] lol [07:59] leaste now when it crashes it falls back to kwin [07:59] thats nice [07:59] heya ajmitch [08:00] I've really gotten used to beryl, though. makes vdesktops intuitive for me. [08:00] yea there are somethings i almost cant do without now, but overall i turn most of it off [08:00] and it helps when i woo and ahh the vista moonites at work with it [08:00] ;) [08:01] yup. very nice when you turn off the pointless stuff. [08:02] oops. time for our weekly meeting. catch ya'll in 3 hours :-[ [08:02] l8tr === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Shoragan [n=shoragan@datenfreihafen.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] if you didn't vote yet, vote: http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+polls [08:28] good night === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-0694.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch should probably vote for the motu council [08:36] or at least check if I put in a vote for everyone :) [08:39] Is there a debian whatever recind software packaging notice for amap? [08:39] it's not in feisty's repos anymore. [08:40] (I wish nmap would just eat amap) [08:40] http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/amap/news/20060214T220807Z.html [08:40] thanks === _Enchained [n=cyrille@88.166.169.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] hello crimsun === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] oh, gpl with subclauses [08:43] didn't know that. [08:44] crimsun: that's dumb === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] it's non-free but they pulled it completely [08:45] complain to debian, we can't fix it for them here [08:46] Yes I know, but it's debian [08:46] last time I asked a question in #debian I got banned for 2 years [08:46] I wonder why [08:47] because I was running mandrake and trying to figure out how some random command worked on debian but didn't have it in front of me probably. [08:49] bluefoxicy: i think that was a rhetorical question :) === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["trombone"] [08:52] zul: Usually when people ask me rhetorical questions, they're followed up by, "Oh, ok, my fault for asking" === Ingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-0694.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] for example, "Why do you keep talking about Josh?" can end in something very graphic [08:53] I think we'd just tune you out [08:53] or kick you, whichever is more effective at the time [08:53] XD [08:54] ajmitch: I've actually had someone threaten to kill me, and then ban me from life [08:54] I can understand that [08:54] anyway I have class === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb [n=richard@cuscon22078.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] Hey guys [09:50] apt-get update on feisty and now I can't install anything [09:52] <_ion> Perhaps it's just a temporary problem with your mirror. [09:53] maybe... I'll check back later === rmjb suspends feisty vm === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-0694.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === helge [n=helge@203.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@25-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@25-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-148-63.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@25-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@25-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@34-192.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] ajmitch: they are clammering for your blood on sounder === Laser_away goes to look [11:16] huh? [11:16] ajmitch: they want your network auth client === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] oh well [11:19] heh === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] Burgwork: it may make it into the archive in a month or two :) [11:23] ajmitch: right === Burgwork whips ajmitch :) [11:23] don't whip me [11:24] I can't push it any harder [11:24] <_ion> Network auth client? === [knap] [n=luis@217.129.215.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] _ion: making it easy to connect Ubuntu to LDAP servers [11:25] <_ion> Wow, sounds great [11:25] just some stuff to screw up config files [11:25] <_ion> Although i find configuring the actual server more annoying than configuring the clients. :-) [11:25] yes, but you only have to do the server once or twice, usually [11:26] <_ion> True. === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-144-222-197.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] Hey LaserJock. [11:28] morning [11:29] Heya LaserJock [11:30] my isp's dns server isn't responding :( [11:30] anyone has an ip of a dns server I can use? === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] hi folks [11:30] hey sistpoty [11:31] hi rmjb [11:31] Hi sistpoty [11:31] hi bddebian [11:31] bddebian: I didn't backport the world, I upgraded [11:31] rmjb: Good man :-) [11:32] can I have your dns server ip? [11:32] 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 [11:32] thanks much [11:32] Just grab some root level dns servers ;-P [11:32] disclosure: that's provided by opendns. [11:32] that'll work for me :) [11:33] <_ion> I have my own DNS server i use from my network. [11:33] me too... but it's dnsmasq, so it needs an upstream dns server to work [11:36] wahoo, Seville [11:36] LaserJock: you just heard? [11:37] not exactly, but I had to say it [11:37] haha [11:37] I hope you have a good time there :) [11:37] it'll be tricky [11:37] my brother is getting married May 12th [11:37] ?? [11:37] and it starts when? [11:37] gah... and I guess I'll still be programming on my thesis :( [11:38] UDS ends on the 11th [11:38] sistpoty: that's annoying [11:38] I think I might have to cut out early again [11:38] LaserJock: ah, cutting it close [11:38] I guess I really shouldn't go at all [11:38] why? [11:39] I've got a lot to do here, and these UDSs suck me in too much ;-) [11:39] heh [11:39] that's ok, I don't plan to go [11:39] that's too bad === ajmitch shrugs [11:40] won't make much difference really [11:40] we need uber MOTU support [11:40] I'm sure 1 or 2 MOTUs may be sponsored [11:40] but not me [11:40] not me [11:41] lies [11:41] Seville? [11:41] LaserJock: seville? === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:41] heya ajmitch LaserJock Burgwork [11:41] did I spell it wrong? [11:41] hi imbrandon [11:41] no [11:41] heya sistpoty [11:41] LaserJock: where is the announcement? [11:42] users-announce [11:42] Burgwork: on ubuntu-announce [11:42] hey LaserJock [11:42] they only just announced today? [11:42] Later gang [11:42] not, sure [11:42] i guess so i havent seen it yet [11:42] bddebian, bye [11:42] cya bddebian [11:42] later bddebian [11:43] but i havent checked my mail today yet either [11:43] I uh, found out by other means [11:43] LaserJock: well it's been known in edubuntu circles for a little while :) [11:43] & it was on the wiki several days ago [11:43] yeah [11:43] hay there [11:43] hi Lutin [11:44] hi sistpoty [11:44] that's why I'm suprised Burgwork didn't see it [11:44] LaserJock: I was majorly busy this weekend with other things [11:45] a little question about debian/copyright .. if I have several files licensed under GPL, but one is (C) 2006 and the other (C) 2005, do I need to separate them in debian/copyright [11:45] Lutin: being verbose is never wrong ;) [11:46] but is often not fun ;-) [11:46] sistpoty: I'm packaging mlt, and a grep -Rin copyright | wc -l returns about 310 lines. sounds important for me ;) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] hello Hobbsee [11:48] sistpoty: you're assigning bugs to sabdfl? [11:48] LaserJock: sure, sabdfl can fix all bugs [11:48] LaserJock: erm... look at the bug ;) [11:48] bug 83348 [11:48] Malone bug 83348 in gnome-app-install "Need more applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83348 [11:48] sistpoty: is it required, or just a 'could be good' thing ? [11:49] Lutin: if it's all from the same authors, it's imo not required, though I'm no copyright guru [11:49] hey ajmitch! [11:50] hi Hobbsee [11:50] hey sistpoty! [11:50] Hey Hobbsee. [11:50] sistpoty: StevenK was asking to be added to the reviewers group, if no one else picked that up please - on REVU [11:50] hey Fujitsu! [11:50] Fujitsu: lastnode was looking for you yesterday [11:50] Hobbsee: does he deserve it? [11:50] sistpoty: ok [11:50] Hobbsee: will be fixed in a minute ;) === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] ajmitch: he's a MOTU and a DD. on that basis, no :P [11:51] maybe we should have a 3 week vote on it ;-) [11:51] LaserJock: haha [11:51] yay, UDS is announced :) [11:51] Hobbsee: done anyway [11:51] ajmitch: cool, thanks [11:51] now we can make him review more :P [11:51] Hobbsee: I'm a MOTU & DD, and I don't deserve it [11:51] bah [11:51] ajmitch: you forgot core. heh [11:52] that doesn't matter [11:52] when did ajmitch turn into bddebian? scary [11:52] ajmitch: ah, cool then I don't need to mangle the db... strange enough I never use the scripts siretart and /me wrote once for this purpose [11:52] hehe [11:52] sistpoty: btw, don't really know what to do with bug 77977 :// [11:52] Malone bug 77977 in evolution-jescs "[SRU] [ftbfs] typo in evolution-jescs-2.8.2/debian/rules" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77977 [11:52] sistpoty: it's quicker to use the script as long as I ignore the usage warning that lies ;) [11:52] -l LEVEL, --level=LEVEL [11:52] 0 = contributor, 1 = reviewer, 2 = admin [11:52] of course you can't pass 0,1 or 2 [11:53] but you have to spell out the level [11:53] Hobbsee: I do read my scrollback when I've been pinged :) [11:53] (I think I know what it was about, though) [11:53] LaserJock: I'm not bddebian [11:53] Fujitsu: cool :P [11:53] LaserJock: bddebian actually does stuff :) [11:53] Fujitsu: just checking === Fujitsu grumps about the lack of encryption support in the Ubuntu installers. [11:55] Lutin: for the evolution-jesc bug, it would be good if you did some bug triage... [11:55] white: presumably you've seen The next motu-meeting will be on Wednesday, Feb 14th, 10.00h UTC.? [11:55] Lutin: just try to figure what difference kdm has than you... maybe that might give some clue what goes wrong === _Enchained [n=cyrille@88.166.169.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu will probably be about 30 minutes late to the meeting, due to TAFE. === ajmitch might try & make it to the meeting [11:56] (it'll probably be finished by the time I get there, of course) [11:56] depends on what people want to argue about [11:56] Fujitsu: what is it in local time? [11:56] sistpoty: ok, thanks [11:56] 1000+1100 = 2100, Hobbsee. [11:56] 2:00am here [11:56] nice [11:57] so tomorrow night, hrmmm [11:57] yes [11:57] means I'll have to stay up late [11:57] Lutin: I'd prefer it if I had the info if the new bug was caused by the update (bad) or is an entirely different issue (than we could do the update anyways) === sistpoty will have to get up early for the meeting *g* === hagi [n=hagi@adsl-89-217-23-200.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] sistpoty: early = 11am? :p [11:59] Adri2000: before noon == early for me :P [11:59] that's my form of early [11:59] heh [12:00] back later [12:00] later ajmitch === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945554.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === drbeams [n=chatzill@24.225.22.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu