[02:25] night === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-201-105.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:25] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/82805 [09:25] Malone bug 82805 in mozilla-thunderbird "During install mozilla-thunderbird recommends mozilla-firefox, but the package is called firefox in Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [09:26] Can someone confirm this bug? Its only on Feisty I believe === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:57] AlexLatchford: you already confirmed it ... should be a safe bet. Took it to my TODO list. [10:58] yeah I went and looked through synaptic and asumed it wouldn't have changed === Admiral_Chicago waves to room, [11:01] comap is hard. [11:03] Admiral_Chicago: hiho [11:08] hey there asac [11:08] i just realized I have to be up at 6 am tomorrow as well [11:09] ...fun [11:10] Admiral_Chicago: then you will nearly get up when i am [11:10] though its 1100 here :-P [11:15] :( [11:15] it's a healthf 4.15 am [11:15] i have to shower, clear my head, leave this problem for nom [11:16] now*. see ya [11:20] cya === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:15] ok maybe that will help :( [12:41] hello :) [12:42] hello :) [12:43] can i help? [12:44] nope i got everything under control so far. [12:45] ok great ;) [12:49] is there a Roel on our team? === hjmf [n=hjmf@208.Red-81-33-107.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:58] hi [12:59] hi [12:59] can you take a look to the Stacktrace on bug 82440 , to me looks very close to bug 82601 [12:59] Malone bug 82440 in firefox "firefox crashed while downloading/opening pdf file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82440 [12:59] Malone bug 82601 in firefox "Firfox shuts down occassionally when switching tabs or to open an URL in a new tab. (dup-of: 74576)" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82601 [12:59] Malone bug 74576 in firefox "crash [@nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowJSInternal] [@nsContentTreeOwner::ShowAsModal] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal] " [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74576 [01:01] could it be the same issue? maybe mark as dup [01:15] asac: you still here? [01:21] asac: can you look at bug 48617 i was being pinged about it. [01:21] Malone bug 48617 in firefox "galeon says it is Firefox via ssh URI" [Low,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48617 === gnomefreak wonders if it would be better to merge feistys ff into edgy [01:31] seeing as it seems more stable than edgys [01:35] hjmf: what version of apport are you using and are you in an edgy chroot? [01:36] apport 0.5 from feisty in edgy chroot [01:37] hjmf: how are you running the retraces? [01:38] ie: apport-retrace -o retraced.crash -v -d -C /tmp/foo _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash 2>&1 | tee retrace.log === gnomefreak thinks im missing dbg package but cant find one [01:38] I'm trying to fit all dep issues form the apport's ouput [01:41] the problem ther eis -dbgsym are not updated so you would have to use -dbg but they are not all there [01:41] but your getting more output than me on retraces [01:42] I'm using the -dbg I find based on the package versions I'm using [01:43] from http://mirror.linux.org.mt/mirror/ubuntu/pool/ [01:43] are you using that as a repo or just grabbing the debs? [01:44] just grabbing using dpkg -i [01:44] it's faster [01:44] k [01:45] then when finished, I leave the chroot updated with apt-get [01:45] ready for next retrace [01:46] where are the -dbg packages? i dont see them in main [01:47] on each package directory (if there is one -dbg, not always) [01:48] ie: http://mirror.linux.org.mt/mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk+2.0/libgtk2.0-0-dbg_2.10.6-0ubuntu3_i386.deb [01:48] just google as "libgtk2.0-0-dbg_2.10.6-0ubuntu3 site:mirror.linux.org.mt" [01:51] oh ok i didnt thin google could use site:bleh [01:52] ty will try it out. are you not getting errors when running apport-retrace. like asserstionerror? [01:54] not at all, only dep issues that can be solved most of them [01:55] hopfully ill find the ones i need [01:57] what does the retrace.crash do? [01:57] im getting errors trying to run that command [01:58] the retrace.crash is just the retraced crash report, just to not mess up the original [01:59] In case that helps you, these are the only feisty packages I'm using: [01:59] i was just looking at that. heres the error i get (kind of weird) [01:59] python-launchpad-bugs_0.1~r75_all.deb python-apt_0.6.20ubuntu4_i386.deb apport_0.50_all.deb [02:00] (mychroot)gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/bug84702$ apport-retrace -o retrace.crash -v -d -C _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash 2>&1 | tee retrace.log [02:00] usage: apport-retrace [options] [02:00] apport-retrace: error: incorrect number of arguments; use --help for a short online help [02:00] chech if you have installed those packages [02:01] i am [02:01] i dont [02:01] i am installing them now [02:01] k [02:01] if ff stops crashing [02:01] ? [02:02] when i go to download froma mirror ff crashes [02:02] 3.0 [02:02] I see [02:04] what version of libc6 do you have in your chroot? [02:04] python-apt depends on feistys version [02:04] >2.5 [02:06] lots of depends on feisty [02:06] ok ... avail again to serve you :) [02:07] asac: i just need you to look at the above bug about ssh :( [02:07] give me numbers :) [02:08] found it :) 48617 [02:08] ? [02:08] gnomefreak: what happens if you click an ssh:// url from within firefox? [02:10] never tried [02:11] same dialog [02:11] hmm [02:12] hjmf: they are both installed it seems i must have had wrong names :( [02:12] gnomefreak, libc6 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 [02:12] right now [02:12] yeah edgys version is installed [02:13] asac: if you have a link for me to try ill try it on 3.0 [02:14] http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/test.html [02:14] hjmf: your not using apport 0.52? [02:14] i get it here too [02:14] gnomefreak, no, 0.50 [02:15] I'm using that always since it was the one available when started [02:15] ah ok [02:15] and I'm installing / removing it when using apt-get [02:15] ill try it with that version [02:15] k [02:16] I have to go [02:16] hjmf: cu [02:17] asac: take a look to bug 82440 | I'll review the logs later [02:17] Malone bug 82440 in firefox "firefox crashed while downloading/opening pdf file (dup-of: 74576)" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82440 [02:17] Malone bug 74576 in firefox "crash [@nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowJSInternal] [@nsContentTreeOwner::ShowAsModal] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal] " [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74576 [02:17] cu [02:17] do we have public logs of this channel? [02:18] yes hold on ill get the link [02:18] maybe we can put it in wiki? [02:18] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [02:18] ok ... I am usually online too ... was just curious [02:19] hjmf: yeah ... you are right ... its a dupe. [02:19] can we try to get someone who can reproduce these crash on open (some) dialog into this channel? [02:20] I would like to upload a preview version with the upstream fix for the theme change crashes and see if those go away too [02:22] i can see if i can find one but i dont know if they are even on irc [02:23] have you seen any of those crashes? [02:23] I can reproduce the bug on theme switch (at least it hangs for some time here) ... but haven't seen a crash on file download et al [02:24] maybe it happens more often on i386 than on x86_64 [02:24] not here im just getting crashes when clicking on some download link [02:25] and its starting to piss me off bad [02:26] hey [02:26] that might be it [02:26] you have a trace? [02:27] next time it does it ill will see if i can grab it. it wants to send it to mozilla since its ff 3.0 [02:44] hmmm then this is probably not fixed by the theme change patch [02:44] as this already landed on trunk [02:44] ... which makes the trace even more interesting [02:45] ok ... maybe I shold tell you if you have unconfirmed bugs in bugzilla I can confirm them ... if you have patches that should land of branches, I can nominate them :) [02:48] however thats almost the end of my upstream powers :) [02:49] can you translate the following error in english? [02:49] Traceback (most recent call last): [02:49] File "/usr/bin/apport-retrace", line 19, in ? [02:49] import apt, apt_inst [02:49] ImportError: No module named apt [02:49] yeah [02:49] you miss the apt python module :) [02:49] python-apt? [02:49] probably [02:49] hmmmm [02:50] its kind of installed [02:50] dunno how its called ... its not in edgy i guess [02:50] its not [02:51] not installed or not in edgy? [02:51] the version is not in edgy [02:51] it says installed but all kinds of depends that havent been [02:52] and i cant install the depends due to libc6 [02:52] what? [02:52] what did you mess up? [02:52] whats your libc6 issue? [02:53] i downgraded apport to 0.50 along with all the other packages. and i need python-apt 0.6.20ubuntu4 but trying to install all hell breaks loose [02:54] ah k [02:54] try to respin python-apt? [02:55] no but i have a few ideas i can try [02:55] i think python-apt is build against newer libs [02:55] if you do apt-get source python-apt [02:55] from feisty [02:55] and build that on edgy everything should be fine [02:56] might have jsut fixed everything :) [02:58] major wizardry :) [02:58] yep :) [03:04] who was interested in getting his feed wet on packaging? [03:05] me [03:05] :) ... but do you still have time left? [03:05] yeah i can take break from retraces for a day [03:05] hehe [03:05] fine [03:05] i think i ony have 1 left if that [03:05] you remember the locale bug ? [03:06] by rimas? [03:06] no unless your talking about the one where the feeds are only on en? [03:06] s/on/in [03:06] no ... its a wishlist bug [03:07] for adding -lt locale to our firefox-locales package [03:07] or was it thunderbird? [03:07] hmmm [03:07] ah no i didnt see that [03:07] i thzink the latter [03:07] wait a sec [03:07] not subscribed to thunderbird package? [03:07] i am i just dont rremember that one [03:07] checking email now [03:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird-locales/+bug/61229 [03:07] Malone bug 61229 in thunderbird-locales "Please provide missing locale (lt) for Thunderbird" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:08] i have to ask pitti if mozillateam we are responsible at all ... if we are this is a good thing to learn about packaging I guess [03:08] its quite straight forward [03:08] by you will have to touch a good bunch of debian/ files in order to properly update [03:09] /^by/but/ [03:09] s/^by/but/ [03:09] thats fine im not afraid of debian files i think i can figure it out (i hope) [03:09] yeah ... i ment its good to edit debian files because in that way you will get more used to general packaging things [03:10] is this edgy build? [03:10] no we will add locales for feisty I guess, but I first have to clarifiy before being sure about ubuntus locale procedures [03:11] k [03:14] i want it from debian unstable right? [03:15] gnomefreak: unfortunately debian has no thunderbird-locales package anymore [03:15] we have to maintain our own [03:15] ah ok [03:15] or maintain a conversion script so we can use debians as blueprint [03:15] but i doubt that makes sense [03:15] you would need to patch the package name [03:16] and have to replace all .xpi in source tarball as we want the original upstream ones [03:16] with the official branding [03:16] anyway, maybe it makes sense to do the conversion once [03:16] to begin [03:16] because I know the guy who maintains the icedove locales pretty well [03:17] and he did a good job recently to add tools in order to maintain the tarball recently [03:17] however maybe grabbing the last avail thunderbird-locales from archives.debian.net would be fine too [03:18] .... to get things started ... then we are all alone ;) [03:19] if we dont need debians packages at all to add a patch than why use thier locales are they that much different than ours? === gnomefreak looking at a patching guide and it looks hard as hell. please tell me its not as hard as it looks :) [03:23] what? [03:23] sorry ;) [03:23] ah [03:23] no i don't want to use their locales [03:23] I just would start from it, because the package is well build [03:23] and it would duplicate work [03:24] is that what you asked? [03:24] patching is not difficult ... learning by doing works pretty well. [03:25] however ... merging might be difficult, because you have to understand what was done ... or at least have to recognize code patterns [03:25] but its all a matter of excercise [03:26] so i still need to grab debians source package? [03:27] i was thinking apt-get source m-tb and just work in those files [03:32] atleast that is what i am assuming from what it says at: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/updating-chap.html [03:46] actually its not that bad ... what in particular do you want to know? [03:46] gnomefreak: apt-get source mozilla-thunderbird will downoad source and extract it [03:47] as it uses a broken dpatch mechanism [03:47] the patches are not yet applied [03:47] they lie around in debian/patches [03:47] and will be applied at the beginning of the build [03:50] after apt-get source mozilla-thunderbird i cd mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.9/debian/patches and i see a list of patches. [03:51] isnt it enough to add the patch there change a few files in mozilla-thunderbird-1.5.0.9/debian and rebuild it? this is all in ubuntus version that i apt-get source package [03:57] 00list [03:58] i see that one [03:58] thats what actually get applied [03:58] k [04:03] i think you can use fakeroot ./debian/rules patch [04:03] do extract source to build-dir/mozilla and apply current patches [04:03] however things like dpatch-edit don't work as thunderbird dpatch is broken [04:03] ah === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-202-121.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:34] I want to create a more detailed wiki page on how to submit crash reports ... how should it be named? [04:36] Alex is the expert but I think he would use Mozillateam/Bugs/CrashReports [04:37] MozillaTeam/Bugs/CrashReports ? [04:37] or even one more hierachy :) [04:37] MozillaTeam/Bugs/Crash/Reporting [04:38] AlexLatchford: ping ^^^ [04:38] have we heard anything on pitti's repo being updated? [04:38] for edgy? we can use -dbg package don't wee? [04:39] yes and no [04:39] it seems the dbg packages arent all there (example: thunderbird) [04:40] hmm ... okay but for firefox we have no issues with his repo anymore, do we? [04:41] yes still not updated. it only have 2.0+0 in it and causes others to fail because of clash in versions [04:43] so where is his repository at all :) [04:44] where? [04:49] what url [04:50] deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs edgy main universe multiverse restricted [04:52] ah sure. .. should have known [04:52] thx [04:52] yw [04:54] bbl gonna start lunch [04:55] gnomefreak, I should have been more clear. I just changed your admin email on the lists. === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:55] asac, what is special about pitti's repo? [04:58] dfarning: nothing :) just wanted to take a look what packages are there and how outdated they are. [04:58] ty, I started working on clue files last night === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:59] any strings you would like me to search for? [04:59] what doe clue files do? [04:59] can you filter for tags et al? [04:59] actually I would like to have something to find bugs that have an illegal state, like State "Needs Info", but no tag set [05:00] and other consistency checks [05:00] you think something like that is possible? [05:01] I'll try, I don't believe to we can specificall request within tag though [05:02] got pick my nephew up from pre school be back in a few hours [05:02] dfarning: ok ... cu [06:10] me is away now === hjmf [n=hjmf@208.Red-81-33-107.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:25] asac: you pinged? [06:25] MozillaTeam/Bugs/Crash/Reporting would be the most appropriate [06:26] this way if there is more items about Crashes it will have the same header [06:26] I can also use a wildcard search to match all pages easily within the subfolder === hjmf [n=hjmf@208.Red-81-33-107.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-200-71.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === hjmf [n=hjmf@208.Red-81-33-107.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:54] AlexLatchford: ok. makes sense [07:55] AlexLatchford: you moved the Tags and States pages too? Can we remove or disable the old ones somehow? [07:55] so they don't show up when searching? [07:55] yeah sure [07:55] I redirected the old pages to the new ones [07:56] but if you want to delete the pages then ill do that [07:56] yeah .. if the links to them have been properly moved too, i think its safe to remove them? [07:56] Erm yeah sure [07:56] ill do it later on [07:56] I didn;t think there were any links [07:56] sure ... nothing to hurry :) [07:56] from the main bugs page [07:57] the is a link to BugsProcedures [07:57] aha ok [07:57] and from that page there are links to BugStates as well as BugTags [07:57] well ill go over them in a bit [07:57] thx a lot [08:03] Pages are gone :) [08:04] going to work on a small document for the wiki now [08:04] good so now I can add new content :) [08:04] so other people can contribute in a similar style [08:04] yeah sure [08:04] yep ... a short introduction on how to organize hierachy would be nice .. if one can actually word this comprehensible :) === hjmf [n=hjmf@208.Red-81-33-107.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:05] yeah ill try my best [08:06] thats most likely good enough ;) [08:35] gnomefreak: I've taken bug 84545 just to play and I've gotten a Stacktrace that shows more info, I'm uploading it right now, hope you dont mind [08:35] Malone bug 84545 in firefox "firefox crash on youtube" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84545 [08:37] looks like a flashplugin-nonfree issue [08:48] I can't find the actual youtube url in that bug. [08:52] hjmf: thats fine im gonna play with this bug to find out why im not getting everything sinc ei seem to have almost all ff related dbg packages plus some [08:52] actually there is no youtube link in the source package of the link in the chrashreport [08:53] gnomefreak: k [08:53] anyone can interpret what reporter of Bug 84716 means? [08:53] Malone bug 84716 in firefox "firefox crashes, screen divides after applying orca screen reader" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84716 [08:54] "normal page splits to left and jumbled version of magnifier goes to lower right and doesn't track..." [08:55] what does that mean? [08:56] I think the reporter means that the magnifier in the trailing (right) side of the vertical division seems "frozen" [08:57] a digital photo would do wonders [08:57] yeah ... now i get it ... somehow [08:57] is it installed by default? [08:57] magnifier? [08:57] not in the menu [08:58] hmm buts installe [08:58] d [08:58] gnome-mag is the package iirc [08:58] i see i have orca installed [08:58] isn't it that? [08:59] according to the description, -orca is just the keybindings and their responses [08:59] aha [08:59] found in preferences [09:14] what the hell am i missing? http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/352401 [09:19] hjmf: are you using firefox 2.0.0.1 or 2.0+0* [09:24] sorry I was away [09:24] gnomefreak: I'm using the one reported on each crash report [09:26] ... and I have to go now, see you === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-202-121.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:36] hey asac can you give me a few more hints about the states you would like to know about [09:39] dfarning: yeah wait a sec [09:39] can you search for tags? [09:40] can't search for tags specifically but can search for strings with in the tag [09:40] good ... so if you search only the description and title you should get them, right? === gnomefreak gave up installing ubuntu-desktop in chroot :( [09:41] can you do something like ... all bugs that are "Needs Info" State, but have no tag or the wrong tags attached? [09:42] current one can search the entire report which includes title, body, tags [09:42] I can if the boolean dosen't get too hairy [09:42] for now we could say ... all bugs that are "needs info", but that have either "needreport" "retrace" "traced" "needtestcase" "needtester" [09:43] though the last ones are not yet official :) [09:43] i'll start coding that one and get back to you;) [09:43] s/but have either/but have neither/" [09:43] ok [09:43] see important to negation :) [09:44] i want to find need info bugs that are not properly documented [09:44] dfarning: thanks [09:45] It is going to be a while because bughelper caches all of the attachements locallu the first thime you run it with the -A option [09:47] oh ... i think its important not to search any comments for the tags because the will not go away from there. .. just from the description. [09:48] ok i'll try....and file feature requests as needed with daniel [09:48] great === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:54] interesting ... my feisty chroot is now broken [09:54] apt-get, aptitude say they cannot resolve archive.ubuntu.com [09:54] but ping archive.ubuntu.com works [09:54] wierd [09:55] :( === asac bbiw === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@205.166.159.38] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:32] AlexLatchford, Are you about? [11:32] just about [11:33] did you just squish the tags page [11:34] I moved it to /Bugs/Tags [11:34] ok, thanks [11:35] dfarning: is the Mozilla Council in place now? [11:35] or is that on the agenda for the next meeting? [11:36] not yet;( lets wait until the next meeting we don't want to over step or bounds [11:36] I will set up the infrastructure today [11:36] okay [11:37] ill add it to the agenda quickly now then [11:37] AlexLatchford, Im going to put up the results of the last run bughelper on the wiki where would you like it ? [11:38] erm.. /bugs/bughelper/test-date [11:38] would that be okay? [11:38] sounds good to me [11:38] dfarning: we already have results? [11:39] some really simple ones that I would like the rest of you to look at before i continue [11:40] can you pastebin ? [11:40] pastebin? [11:41] http://pastebin.ca/ [11:41] ? [11:41] www.pastebin.com [11:42] sure, I'll paste to www.pastbin.com in a few minutes [12:00] I have listed four new needinfo tags at /tags [12:01] asac, AlexLatchford I have post the first set of results at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Bughelper/Results [12:02] nice [12:09] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Wiki [12:09] just added this page a minute ago [12:11] cool we should post something on the docteam list begging for a wike person to help us;) [12:11] wiki [12:14] yeah probably [12:16] working on the Trademarks page now [12:16] dfarning: yeah ... quite some work :) [12:17] Once you get the syntax it is pretty straight forward [12:17] what would you like next;) [12:21] AlexLatchford, is it possiable to link to a section of a wiki page [12:21] yes, but the page in question needs a Table of Contents [12:21] wait. [12:21]