[12:26] !word is equivalents [12:26] I'll remember that, LjL === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-184.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-184.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] [12:28] In ubotu, cables said: excel is A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant [12:32] i beat him on that === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Exit,] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === pleia2_ [n=lyz@clockbot.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@129.63.56.143] has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:14] anyone mind checking me for a DCC exploit? [01:14] thanks [01:14] CaptainMorgan: done :) [01:14] thanks :) === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@129.63.56.143] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Loop,] === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [01:44] In #ubuntuforums, Monk-e said: !stop is Hammer time!!! === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v DBO] by ChanServ [02:10] [02:10:13] hey please unban me im really sorry [02:11] bleah, he's so sorry that he even changed nicknames to see if he could rejoin... (see my ban in #ubuntu) [02:13] guess there's your answer [02:15] he's still whining. admittedly i didn't "warn" him, i just banned him. what'd you say? [02:16] LjL: do what is necessary [02:17] you mean, laugh? i really am sorry...., like i said ive had a little too much to drink and I dont know everything about computers please forgive me kind sir [02:17] now i think he'll wait until he's less drunk, at the very least :) [02:18] LjL: haha, put him in the drunk tank [02:18] lol [02:18] yes, please give him a few hours, LjL [02:18] i love people saying 'kind sir', its classic [02:18] just like the local police, oh to much to drink, here let us introduce you to out drunk tank [02:18] hehe [02:19] well my english isn't refined enough to be *absolutely* sure of the tone that's behind that "kind sir"... but my instinct says "troll" [02:19] Kamping_Kaiser: don't all of the emails from Africa wanting to use my bank account to store their millions always start out as "Kind sir" [02:19] nixternal, i dont know , i dont send *all* of them :P [02:19] hahaha [02:19] just a couple of them [02:20] LjL, to me it means 'sucking up' [02:20] yup [02:20] buy him a shot and send him to bed ;) [02:20] you think? but seriously could a, uh, title like that, used on IRC, excite anything but laughs? [02:23] drunk+sucking up=kind sir [02:23] keeeind shirrr... =) [02:23] :) [02:24] hahaha [02:24] hiccup [02:30] this query is getting better and better [02:38] In ubotu, cables said: photoshop is A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant === Seeker` knows people that would use "kind sir" in conversation [02:39] hm, i think i'll tell cables about aliases === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-184.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ [02:51] Question: I know that mere mortals like me can submit new factoids to Ubotu, and that they are moderated. However, is there any etiquette to it, besides making sure they're relevant? Should I ask first, or something? [02:51] just put it in :) [02:51] dunno about any protocol for it [02:52] Thanks [02:52] cables: just do it [02:52] ok, got it === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ [02:53] In ubotu, cables said: trillian is equivalents [02:55] !equivalents [02:55] A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant [02:56] !trillian is equivalents [02:56] I'll remember that, Hobbsee === elkbuntu_ [n=melissa@ppp253-83.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-184.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ === phos-phoros [n=Donovan@unaffiliated/phos-phoros] has joined #ubuntu-ops === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-184.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-ops [03:37] In ubotu, cables said: outlook is equivalents [03:59] damn theres a lot of equivilants in there! [04:29] Did holycow ever just go away and sleep it off last night? [04:35] i unmuted him earlier [04:44] good, I guess. How long did he moan last night? [04:44] he got the hint when you left [04:51] i got it all in scrollback === essy [n=essy@about/essy/stouterik/pdpc.base.SportChick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v essy] by ChanServ === essy [n=essy@about/essy/stouterik/pdpc.base.SportChick] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [05:00] bug 84657 [05:00] Malone bug 84657 in unrar-nonfree "Needs Security update " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84657 === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v elkbuntu] by ChanServ === Tedd_ [n=na@ool-457b3956.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Tedd_ [n=na@ool-457b3956.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === cables [n=cables@65-78-17-184.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth_] by ChanServ === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgundavia] by ChanServ === essy [n=essy@about/essy/stouterik/pdpc.base.SportChick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v essy] by ChanServ [06:39] nalioth, ping? did you say Schnickfitzel was the nick of your favourite chaostreffpunkt member? [06:50] elkbuntu: ja [06:50] something like that, anyway [06:50] where is he? [06:50] he's in #ubuntu [06:51] oh goodie [06:51] well behaved at the moment of course [06:51] watch him like a hawk [06:51] already [06:51] don't feel the slightest worry about booting him [06:54] anyone else currently on from his hostmask? [06:55] not that i can see [07:13] heeere we go is it allowed to trade pics here?? === mneptok thunders past [07:19] heeere we really go now [07:19] where can i find the internet explorer in ubuntu? [07:22] next stupid remark from him earns a footprint on his butt [07:24] eh, just +b but don't kick. he strikes me as the type to be more harmed by a muzzle than a night on the porch. ;) [07:24] he's a network-wide troll [07:24] part of the chaostreffpunkt clan [07:24] im jut having fun with him atm === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106001150603f7d.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:57] !schedule [08:57] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [08:58] !meeting [08:58] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [08:58] hrmf [08:58] !meetings [08:58] @lart 37 mneptok === Ubugtu shows mneptok a photo of mneptok === GazzaK dances about a bit [08:58] !rub_me_until_the_gravy_flows === GazzaK has finally moved \o/ === GazzaK rubs mneptok === mneptok makes his own sauce! [08:59] eeek [09:00] I've missed you mneptok [09:01] GazzaK: yay! === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === GazzaK ducks === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b *!*@unaffiliated/GazzaK] by Hobbsee === GazzaK was kicked off #ubuntu-ops by Hobbsee (Hobbsee) [09:02] poor bugger [09:02] meany Hobbsee :( === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b GazzaK!*@*] by Hobbsee [09:02] ride the lightning. === Hobbsee looks innocently [09:02] mneptok: yup === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b GazzaK!*@*] by Hobbsee === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b *!*@unaffiliated/GazzaK] by Hobbsee === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:06] :p [09:06] wb *hugs GazzaK * [09:16] homo superior in my interior. but from the skin out a i'm homo sapien, too. [09:16] i'm a homo sapien, too. [09:16] you're a homo sapien, too. [09:16] i'm a homo sapien like you. [09:18] i don't want to classify like some animal in a zoo. but it seems good to me to know that you're homo sapien, too. [09:23] mneptok, you are mad [09:24] GazzaK, you only just realized this? [09:24] Anyway, have fun with the flooders in #ubuntu; I need to crash. Got to be up in just under 6hrs :| === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [09:25] Madpilot: :/ [09:25] night all [09:32] @lart mneptok === Ubugtu stabs mneptok === mneptok secretes an ominous smelling gelantinous horror [09:36] (the extra 'n' is for extra 'nasty') [09:50] did Seveas ever get the okay's to add me to the op list for #ubuntu-offtopic ? [09:51] we dont want you as an op there. kicking you powerlessly is great fun :P [09:52] Hobbsee, you do that here [09:52] and Hobbsee thats not nice === GazzaK dcc's Hobbsee some flowers [09:54] GazzaK: heh [09:54] GazzaK: it's not valentines day yet :P [09:54] flowers are for every day [09:57] smooth [09:57] Hobbsee: i miss our quiet times together. the long walks on the beach. curled ug together by a warm fire. your hands clasped around my neck in that way that says, "i will choke the life from you for the good of the tribe" .... [09:57] mneptok: haha [10:01] when is the next ops meeting? [10:01] 1700UTC on what day? === Hobbsee hands mneptok a book with green friendly letters on the front cover [10:02] mneptok: what does it say on the front? [10:02] "Mommy Says The Hamburger Clown Isn't Supposed To Touch My Hoo-Haa" [10:03] mneptok: that's what it says on the back. turn it over. [10:04] "aaH-ooH yM hcuoT oT desoppuS t'nsI nwolC regrubmaH ehT syaS ymmoM" === Hobbsee thwacks mneptok [10:04] mneptok: it says "read the topic. it will help you" === mneptok echoes hollowly === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ [10:07] hey jenda [10:08] save me from mneptok please === jenda saves mneptok from GazzaK [10:08] I'M SAVED! [10:08] PRAISE JEBUS! [10:09] aw, that was almost a goal :P === mneptok shoots kgoetz and scores with Hobbsee === kgoetz reads taht 4 ways, tehn gives up [10:09] scoring how? === mneptok woggles an eyebrow [10:10] baseball bat scoring? === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [10:10] :( === Hobbsee smashes mneptok wiht the cluebat === mneptok echoes hollowly [10:11] !debug [10:11] For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === jenda dials ISP, and patiently waits in line... === jenda is then put on hold. === jenda is then told they are processing it. [10:44] argh. [10:44] hehe [10:44] poor jenda [10:45] Fortunately, I'm going to have a month-long break from all things internet :) [10:51] internet withdrawl? [10:52] lack of internet connection [10:53] jenda: i thought they gave you community service and not actual jail time ... [10:57] mneptok: allow me to explain the concept of 'vacation' and how it differs from 'parole' [10:58] rofl [10:58] you should probably trust his word too, mneptok. the boy be a lahw-yer [11:04] IANALY [11:05] whats the extra Y for? [11:05] (Is it possible that I don't get disconnects now that I'm not running under bip?) [11:05] yet? [11:05] Seeker`: yup :) === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:06] jenda: please, your sexual preferences are not relevant to this conversation. [11:07] o.O [11:08] Speaking of relevant, hm... === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Mez_] by ChanServ [11:23] lol === Seeker`_ [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v apokryphos] by ChanServ [11:50] Is there a reason punBB allows me to see the IP address of every forum member? [11:50] (forum.ubuntu.cz) [11:50] are you set as admin? [11:54] yes === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ [11:54] But still - why? :) [11:54] jenda: that's why [11:54] that's the cause, not the reason. [11:55] Do I need to know their IP as admin? [11:56] jenda: to ban them, yes. [11:57] hmm, ok. [11:57] For some reason, IP banning didn't occur to me ;) [11:57] it would when they registered a new account to evade ;) [11:59] I never had to do it on forums before. [11:59] yep :) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ [12:03] jenda, goes to show that we behave in there... :D [12:03] effie_jayx: not at all :) [12:03] it's another forum ;) [12:04] :S [12:04] that's what happens when I butt in :S [12:04] OMG YOU SAID BUTT YOU ARE BANNED FROM THE FORUMS [12:05] lol :D [12:05] and this is why we never leave mneptok with ops... [12:06] hehe [12:06] Hobbsee: you are now banned from my pants. [12:06] Hobbsee: I wouldn't leave mneptok with anyone alone. [12:06] happy now? HUH?! [12:07] s/happy/relieved/ [12:08] mneptok: dont worry, i wouldnt want to be there anyway. [12:08] mneptok: maybe just to beat you up [12:09] jenda: hehe, smart [12:11] Hobbsee: i thought you'd choose a target of real value and sensitvity. [12:11] WAIT! i mean! uhhh .... [12:12] heh [12:13] WTF is a .pif file? [12:15] Prgam Information file [12:16] Windows .exe stub [12:18] why would someone want me to download a random img.pif? [12:20] you need to ask why a random stranger wants you to run a Win32 executable? [12:20] is it executable? [12:20] virus. trojan. worm. some sort of malware. [12:20] oh come on... [12:20] 06:13 <+jenda> WTF is a .pif file? [12:20] 06:15 <+mneptok> Prgam Information file [12:20] 06:16 <+mneptok> Windows .exe stub [12:20] jenda@Elu:~/Desktop$ wine img.pif [12:20] jenda@Elu:~/Desktop$ [12:21] :_D [12:21] oh, ok... I didn't understand what you meant with the 'stub' [12:21] http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PIF_file.html === jenda looked in wikipedia [12:22] got it [12:22] so it will try to run some other executable, won't it? [12:23] no one ever offers a .pif with an innocent reason. [12:23] I know that, of course. [12:23] open it with a text editor. [12:23] sounds like mneptok does that all the time, then [12:23] Given that it was ICQ'd to a friend simultaneously from 3 people :-D [12:25] my guess is that the .pif does a BUNCH of crap, including some nasty tricks with ICQ ;) [12:25] whoever sent it is infected. get them a Dapper CD. [12:25] Starts with "MZKERNEL32.DLL^@^@LoadLibraryA^@^@^@^@GetProcAddress^@^@+~^C^@ByDwing@" [12:25] good idea ;) [12:26] I'm fresh out of Edgies :( === Seeker` thinks that "Edgies" sounds like some sort of drug [12:29] it is [12:30] oh. ok. === GazzaK passes round the edgies [12:31] yeah man === Hobbsee destroys GazzaK === Seeker` watches the smoking pair of shoes that once was GazzaK === GazzaK smokes da edgies [12:35] wooo, pretty === GazzaK is worried about Hobbsee [12:48] GazzaK, you'll get over that [12:52] heh [12:52] elkbuntu survived, somehow [12:54] Hobbsee, of course... she is the almighty elkbuntu ... :D [12:54] hehe [01:00] heh [01:15] BTW, am I still in here? :) [01:16] no, sorry. [01:16] nope [01:16] sorry jenda you're out [01:17] weird. [01:17] Well, no, that's expectable. [01:17] The ISP guy said they'd be shutting down the line for a while. [01:17] There is absolutely no way I could be in here, afterall :) [01:18] thx for the input ;) === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v ompaul] by ChanServ [01:20] In ubotu, mohtady said: everything is opend with Quanta ? why? every page I tryed to open [01:21] ??? [01:22] ubotu, that doesn't make any sense [01:28] tsmithe, come on it is a bot [01:28] :) [01:28] i just don't understand how that happened. whenever i try to talk to ubotu she ignores me :( === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ [01:37] tsmithe, "ignore list for uboto "tsmithe"" that might be why :-) [01:37] what? it's not /ignore ignoring me any more [01:37] just erroring :P === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v jenda] by ChanServ [01:45] I cry OP ABUSE! @ Hobbsee :p === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [01:45] Hobbsee... [01:46] naughty girl [01:46] game on [01:46] jenda: what? :) [01:46] this might help a little [01:46] it was a joke when Seveas said it was OK to kick GazzaK, you know... [01:47] I don't mind, I am making a list [01:47] jenda, he awards himself points based on who removes him [01:47] ompaul: hrm? [01:47] I'll put him back where he belongs [01:47] GazzaK: of numbers of kicks or something? === Anti-Tedd [n=na@ool-457b3956.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o ompaul] by ChanServ === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested] === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b *!*@unaffiliated/GazzaK!#ubuntu-offtopic] by ompaul === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o ompaul] by ChanServ === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:48] ompaul: if it's a free economy, Hobbsee's removes barely have any value anymore. === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o ompaul] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b *!*@unaffiliated/GazzaK!#ubuntu-offtopic] by ompaul === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o ompaul] by ChanServ [01:48] 'lo GazzaK [01:48] jenda, we know [01:48] :) === GazzaK rubs backside [01:48] ouch [01:48] Sorry, duders. But I was asked to come here for a test of my router by #ubuntu-read-topic [01:48] ompaul: besides, he likes it, so what's the point? [01:49] I changed the port and it still doesn't work >:[ [01:49] jenda, to give him points is the point [01:49] seems to be === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [01:49] oops [01:49] jenda, I would not say I like it, but I would say I don't dislike it (ie I do not take offence) [01:50] hmpf [01:50] Anti-Tedd: try now? [01:51] jenda, hmpf?? [01:51] hmpf === Anti-Tedd [n=na@ool-457b3956.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ === LjL [i=9f958611@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-f8f082d1f372632f] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ [02:13] you would have been better off doing an exempt on the ident, LjL [02:14] on the ident? but the ident can be faked by anyone [02:15] though i'm remembering just now that i have a cloak... [02:15] though i suppose i probably can't use it on this host [02:15] try [02:15] ah no you're right the ident here is i=. well anyway, will do the same [02:15] idents might be able to be faked, but it stops randoms [02:16] but the "hostmask" should be tied to this specific connection, too, i think [02:16] yes [02:17] it's an encrypted string of the hostmask afaik [02:18] looked like it [02:18] besides anyway this java thing's so slow it's barely even usable [02:18] heh [02:22] argh... this java thing however tells me that the << >> quotation mark i started using in Ubotu do *not* work right without utf8 >: [02:23] but they were always in latin1! wasn't utf8 mostly latin1 compatible? [02:23] no clue [02:23] do you see quotations here? [02:24] LjL: the french thingies... [02:24] jenda: the french use << >> quotation marks? [02:24] yes ;) [02:25] uhm, i thought they were quite universal... just that on keyboards one commonly has "" [02:25] they're called guillemots, btw. [02:26] or, that's what my xmodmap calls them :) [02:27] well anyway they're useful for commands - they make people understand they should *not* type them... and they work even if the command itself contains "" quotations =) [02:27] the fact that they don't quite work with UTF-16 (or latin1 or whatever this windows machine is using) is kind of annoying though [02:28] still, the ones i used right now () were typed using the Windows charmap, and you seem to see them... but i don't see yours [02:28] (well, i see them, but there's an A with a cap before each of them) [02:29] heh [02:29] hey, good idea with them commands [02:30] I always tell people to /ns register only to get a ns register back... [02:30] i try to remember to tell them to do it *in the status window* [02:30] but then half of them don't have a clue what a status window is, so anyway ;) [02:31] yep... [02:36] LjL, what charset does the java app use? [02:36] LjL, iso-8859-1??? [02:37] effie_jayx, i *think* so... i was asked upon login, but i didn't entirely pay attention to it [02:37] Windows itself should be using UTF-16 i think, or at least charmap would hint to that [02:39] jenda, iirc in ascii is laquo and is raquo, as they are/were used for quoting (instead of ' or ") in some languages such as iirc finnish etc [02:39] bah, they *are* used for quoting here. interchangeably with "", but they are. (and with -- as in the m-dash, too) [02:40] actually our using the m-dash for quoting conversations is a good idea IMHO, it makes it more clear who says what [02:40] but then we don't use dashes for anything else, so i guess it wouldn't be as good in english [02:41] yeah, english is a queer thing [02:42] now i use the m-dash as mid-sentense punctuation -- i mean like this -- in italian too... but we don't really do this normally, i've just gotten used to it from english. we use semicolon for that sort of thing, while i don't see the semicolon being used very much at all in english [02:42] it's used more in proper english [02:43] http://www.bartleby.com/141/ is an interesting read [02:44] anyway perhaps i should change those french quotes into the code that this Windows charmap uses for them... since they seem to show correctly in Ubuntu with UTF-8 as well as Windows, while the opposite doesn't apply [02:44] I do a bit of 'this' to give emphasis to things like you say LjL [02:44] ubuntubot is logging this channel now, yes? [02:45] if he's in the channel, yes [02:45] ubuntulog* [02:45] yeah it is... though hmm it logs in html, so not quite sure the character codes will show up very well [02:45] !xconfig [02:45] To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - To configure only the driver and resolution, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh - See also !FixRes [02:46] LjL, there'd be some special chars function used, i would imagine [02:47] !quotationscodes is Personal note to check character codes - (Windows left quote, 0171) (Windows right quote, 0187) (Ubuntu quotes as shown on Windows) [02:47] i'll delete this when i'm back home [02:49] windows encoding is great fun. i once failed a prac because of stupid ^M carriage returns [02:49] effie_jayx: the java applet says it's using "windows-1252" on login, not sure which ISO charset that would be closest to, guess iso8859-1 but don't really know [02:49] prac? [02:49] practical [02:49] exam, that is? [02:49] :S... what a standard ... [02:50] LjL, yep [02:51] elkbuntu: i just finished such a thing... which is why i'm at university... "computing security", i made a fool of myself by inventing stuff i totally didn't know about iptables =) i did pass it though, 12/15... though i still don't know what i got in the theory part, so i might not have passed the whole thing anyway [02:51] it only involved paper and two guys about my age asking me to write down iptables command lines on paper :P [02:51] good grief [02:52] that's gotta be like trying to actionscript a bouncing ball with pen on paper :-/ [02:52] heh well i'm exaggerating a little, they didn't care *that* much about correct syntax and it didn't *really* involve writing down a ton of commands. though they did make me write a couple, and that was embarassing enough [02:53] lol. actionscripting is bad enough, let alone when you cant cheat [02:53] it's not like i *remember* commands. they also asked me how one sets linux ACLs... first i said "chattr"... then one of them whispered "set..." and i completed "facl". it's not like anybody USES them anyway! >: === LongPointyStick [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LongPointyStick] by ChanServ === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ === felixhummel [n=dfm21@p5496F85D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:45] I was forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic, changed my port to 8001 but still cannot connect to #ubuntu. Help please! [04:49] felixhummel: that's because you have to join here for a test first [04:49] I tested you, and you're good to go. You can join #ubuntu directly now :) [04:49] apokryphos, so test me! :) === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-ops === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v nixternal] by ChanServ === SportChick [n=essy@about/essy/stouterik/pdpc.base.SportChick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v SportChick] by ChanServ === LongPointyStick [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-ops === pleia2 [n=lyz@clockbot.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:58] felixhummel: you can go to #ubuntu now === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v DBO] by ChanServ [04:59] Amaranth, thanks === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:59] felixhummel: apokryphos did it :) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@unaffiliated/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === imbecile [n=imbecile@adsl-75-17-11-32.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-ops === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v elkbuntu] by ChanServ [05:01] then thanks, apokryphos [05:01] ;) [05:01] no worries === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v ompaul] by ChanServ === felixhummel [n=dfm21@p5496F85D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:05] I still cannot join #ubuntu, though I made it to #ubuntu-unregged, although I was regged. Then I reconnected to freenode and was thrown to #ubuntu-read-topic again :/ [05:06] felixhummel, join me in #felix-h [05:06] felixhummel: there was a server crash. Try joining now === hybrid_ [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:07] (server crash reinstated all bans that were set, say, a few minutes ago) [05:10] felixhummel: ok, you're in :) [05:11] apokryphos, yes, finally. thanks again! [05:12] does someone know, how this exploit works? why does an irc command interfere with my router? [05:12] because your router wrongly interprets it as one [05:27] hm, yipe is hanging around k-offtopic now I see === maxamillion is now known as max_at_class === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === essy [n=essy@about/essy/stouterik/pdpc.base.SportChick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v essy] by ChanServ === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.1.182] has joined #ubuntu-ops === effie_jayx [i=be25f802@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-212b94a6beae19a8] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:24] can we have an op in #ubuntuforums? [08:24] thanks PriceChild [08:25] Sorry tsmithe, was just getting change for washing lol :) [08:25] :) [08:25] hehe [08:25] tsmithe, crying ops is enough... the only ops there are listed [08:25] ok :) === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === Seeker` [n=cjo20@84-12-195-25.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops [09:14] Could we have the fortune database looked over please? [09:14] Seeker`, PMing you a quote [09:14] arch [09:14] Seveas, ^^^ [09:15] 3:( === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.1.182] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Abandonando"] === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Burgwork] by ChanServ [11:24] how does a team go about getting a mailing list? === hybrid [n=x@easyubuntu/supporter/hybrid] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v hybrid] by ChanServ === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === LjL [n=ljl@unaffiliated/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v LjL] by ChanServ [11:44] hey guys i fixed the bug yesterday.. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ [11:47] can someone let me into #ubuntu please? bug is fixed [11:47] imbecile: router problem, you mean? [11:48] LjL, yuppers [11:48] imbecile: i'll test to make sure if you don't mind [11:48] okily dokily [11:49] sorted [11:49] thanks... thats similar to an old mirc exploit [11:49] dcc too long [11:49] well this one however doesn't involve the IRC client at all [11:49] yeah it the router right? [11:50] yep [11:50] it thinks it should open some ports, but doesn't understand which ones, and crashes, or so is my understanding [11:50] does it have to do with my oem firmware? [11:51] it's certainly a firmware problem - that is, updated firmware could correct it - but i'm not sure how many router makers have published updated firmwares yet [11:51] well i have a wt54g so there is plenty of different firmware for me [11:51] eerr wrt54g* [11:52] anyways thanks for the help :) [11:52] you're welcome [11:59] imbecile: openwrt rox [12:01] nalioth, Ive heard that but i dont know how to get it on there... I've noticed the openwrt sites never give install directions and ive never done anything like that so I dont want to brick it [12:01] imbecile: #openwrt or ##openwrt may be of help [12:02] white noise [12:02] oops [12:02] nalioth, thanks... heheh if ya want to know about it support can always be found on freenode ;P === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v kgoetz] by ChanServ === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.1.182] has joined #ubuntu-ops === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.1.182] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Abandonando"]