[02:15] <Viper550> You need ideas for a new update-notifier icon?
[02:28] <troy_s> No.
[02:28] <troy_s> No one has ideas.
[02:30] <Viper550> I do...
[03:13] <troy_s> *sigh*
[11:18] <darkstar> hi there
[11:19] <PingunZ> hello
[11:19] <darkstar> quite today, isn't it?
[11:20] <darkstar> Just apoproached edgy, coming from openSuse.. Is there a way to have an OSX-like desktop, the easy way?
[11:20] <darkmatter> yup
[11:20] <darkmatter> welll... kinda
[11:21] <darkmatter> theres several osx like themes
[11:21] <darkmatter> theres also
[11:21] <lizardking> darkmatter: look at gnomelook
[11:21] <darkstar> I prefer using gnome, btw
[11:21] <darkmatter> a macmenu for gtk
[11:21] <lizardking> darkmatter: I think apple style is hard to copy
[11:22] <darkstar> not a real clone of the ma style.. something more pleasant than the standard look
[11:22] <darkmatter> lizardking, not really... ony real "hardpoints" are the tabs
[11:23] <lizardking> darkmatter: yes
[11:23] <lizardking> lizardking: also gnome panels
[11:24] <darkmatter> but not that it matters... I'm not really a "mac guy"... but I con almost perfectly clone mac style (I've done it for clients)... its just not a "one click" operation
[11:24] <darkmatter> *can
[11:25] <darkstar> so should I take a look at gnome-look?
[11:25] <darkmatter> sure
[11:26] <darkstar> any suggestions? any known theme that works well according to your opinion?
[11:29] <darkmatter> hmmmm... hard to say... my themes not done (thus not worthy)... and a lot of themes  that are "done" arent... hmmmmm
[11:30] <darkstar> tell you what: I'll go taking a look. if anything pleases me i'll grab it.
[11:30] <darkstar> Thanks for your help.
[11:30] <darkstar> Have a good one.
[03:36] <darkmatter> troy_s, another thing for your consideration to add to the list of exported elements, scrollbars
[04:41] <troy_s> darkmatter: I was under the impression that we were going to try and expose everything.
[04:42] <darkmatter> yup
[04:42] <darkmatter> anyay.. been up all night.. nap time
[04:42] <darkmatter> ;)
[04:44] <troy_s> Yah
[04:44] <troy_s> nicht
[06:16] <troy_s> Builder of bikesheds -- kwwii you in?
[08:58] <Viper550> You said you were going to have trouble with getting the Usplash artwork into GFXBOOT
[09:23] <Viper550> anyone here?
[09:29] <kwwii> I am here but I am in a meeting
[09:30] <kwwii> so i am not really here
[09:30] <Viper550> Okay then, I see you got my email about me noticing that gfxboot oddity on Ubuntu CE
[09:31] <kwwii> yeah, thanks for mentioning that, i would not have noticed
[09:35] <Viper550> I'm also considering whipping up a new Ubuntu login screen using the new version of the Gnome GDM theme (with the ok/cancel buttons) as the base
[09:40] <kwwii> you mean a new gdm theme or a new login splash?
[09:41] <Viper550> gdm, that's what I said
[09:41] <msikma> hmm
[09:41] <msikma> Doesn't the latest unstable version of Ubuntu have DejaVu Condensed as default font?
[09:41] <kwwii> msikma: yes, it should
[09:42] <msikma> Does anyone know for sure?
[09:42] <msikma> If it is, then the default hinting must be set to "slight"
[09:42] <msikma> The hinting seems to not work at all on the other settings.
[09:42] <msikma> But it does work rather nicely on "slight".
[09:42] <kwwii> msikma: that is a problem with gnome
[09:42] <kwwii> msikma: I'll look into that
[09:42] <msikma> It's kind of strange how it doesn't get hinted on "medium"
[09:42] <Viper550> This new font is well, interesting
[09:43] <kwwii> msikma: yeah, seems freaky
[09:44] <Viper550> I actually kinda like it, looks more contemporary
[09:49] <kwwii> Viper550: not sure how much we are going to change the GDM for feisty
[09:50] <Viper550> I'm trying to make it as simliar to the old one as possible layout wise
[09:51] <Viper550> And from what I saw on the Wiki, you are doing most of the work on Fiesty.
[09:51] <kwwii> yeah, pretty much all of it
[09:52] <kwwii> since I am getting paid to do it
[09:52] <Viper550> O_O
[09:57] <kwwii> of course, that does not mean that others cannot help, just that in the end I'll be responsible for it (responsible to report to sabdfl that is)
[09:58] <Viper550> k then! Is there a preview app for GDM themes?
[09:59] <kwwii> not that I know of
[10:03] <Viper550> So far, I've replaced the background, the Options icon, and the "new default fonts"
[10:21] <troy_s> kwwii
[10:22] <troy_s> You in?
[10:22] <Viper550> wanna see my XML so far?
[10:22] <Viper550> p.s. troy_S: he's in a meeting