=== jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb_ [n=richard@cuscon22670.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jan__ [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] hey guys, which pacakge contains the gthread libs? [12:24] libglib2.0-dev [12:26] thanks crimsun [12:26] did i hear you're pacakging up ardour2? [12:26] I don't know; did you? :) [12:26] hehe ithought I did === cbx33 is compiling it now [12:26] did it earlier at work too [12:27] someone said there were some problems with it though === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ is now known as luisbg === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] cbx33: what sort? [12:32] i don;t know, someone said it was proving tricky [12:32] to pacakge [12:33] well, yes, it's a PitA. [12:33] what's the problem with it? [12:33] if you have time to tell me [12:33] I'm curious [12:33] is it scons? [12:33] nope [12:33] meaning, scons is the manageable portion === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] heh [12:35] what's it's problem? [12:35] upgrading cleanly [12:36] <_MMA_> crimsun: From Ardour1 to Ardour2? [12:36] yes, so I'm debating making it parallel installable [12:36] <_MMA_> I would think people would want to install them along side each other. [12:37] <_MMA_> Ardour 1 sessions dont work the same in Ardour2. [12:37] <_MMA_> So I could see people wanting both. [12:37] yes, so I get to have fun with install paths. [12:38] back to LP for me [12:38] hmm [12:38] yeh parallel makes sense [12:38] I'd not want an upgrade [12:39] <_MMA_> I assumed that was the plan. I shoulda asked. :) [12:39] heh [12:39] hi _MMA_ === _MMA_ waves. [12:41] ok with the lowlatency kernel [12:41] if i try to run jack in realtime mode it dies [12:41] is that normal [12:41] but if i run without....the load is AWFUL [12:42] <_MMA_> I think you have to edit your limits.conf [12:42] /etc/security/limits.conf [12:42] <_MMA_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation [12:42] thanks [12:42] <_MMA_> I hope we can patch that at some point. [12:43] hmmm still dying [12:45] <_MMA_> cbx33: I know Ive had it working. Just cant remember how atm. [12:45] <_MMA_> I had it working at one point without touching anything. [12:45] <_MMA_> Lately it doesnt work though. :( [12:45] yeh i had it working [12:45] have you found the bug on LP and added your debug info? === schultmc [i=schultmc@nat/progeny/x-1ea61c07d6a9becb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] <_MMA_> cbx33: Are you starting JACK thought qjackctl? === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] _MMA_, yes [01:05] <_MMA_> cbx33: PM [01:06] ok ardour is now working ;) [01:06] compiled fine [01:06] just need to get jack goign now === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pete [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p548AE7C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] nice [01:10] jack's working [01:10] needed to login and out again [01:10] hi pete :) === pete is now known as cbx33 === crimsun punches cbx33 with a permissions popup bubble [01:11] hey ajmitch [01:11] sorry crimsun [01:11] heh, pete incognito [01:11] hey ogra [01:11] howz it going [01:11] I'll be fixing up TCM later this week [01:11] me too [01:12] nice [01:12] well.... === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] shall I wait till you're done [01:12] hi cbx33 [01:12] cos I'll need to hack up all my bits when you're finished [01:12] hey LaserJock === cbx33 has been fiddling with opengl the past few days [01:13] crimsun, do you mean the bug with qjackctl where it often doesn't have a taskbar bit? [01:14] cbx33, i will fix the vnc side of ltsp ... dont wait on me [01:14] ogra, ok dude [01:14] howz it going anyway? [01:14] cbx33: too many bugs to track [01:14] in qjackctl [01:14] or in general? [01:15] the latter. [01:15] cbx33: Do you mean qjackctl not being accessible via alt-tab when switching between apps? [01:15] well, doing the last urgent upoads for herd4 preparation ... i'm terribly tired but have to wait for a metapackage update to come down the drain === fbond [n=fab@pool-71-169-146-143.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] TheMuso, yup, can't alt+tab [01:15] and can't see it in the taskbar [01:15] cbx33: Thats really annoying. [01:16] TheMuso, yes [01:16] damn annoying [01:16] and turning on the panel applet icon seemed to cause A LOT of problems [01:17] right === TheMuso reckons a few of us should create a GTK jack control program. [01:17] yeh me too === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] <_MMA_> lol [01:18] <_MMA_> I plan on having a bounty for it. ;) [01:18] just make the qjackctl source to generate another binary [01:18] me thinks you all should just rip the sound cards out of your computers and be done with it ;-) [01:18] <_MMA_> Hopefully someone bites. [01:18] <_MMA_> :) === cbx33 pokes LaserJock [01:19] :p [01:19] he's just jealous because he's deaf [01:19] heheh === cbx33 writes gtk apps [01:20] tbh, I'm never in an enviroment where I can listen to sound much === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] <_MMA_> cbx33: Using what? [01:20] cbx33: Yeah we could probably just separate the backend and write a new frontend. [01:20] yeh [01:20] python mainly [01:21] what no php-gtk? :-) [01:21] yuk [01:21] <_ion> eww [01:21] <_MMA_> cbx33: Lets take this to #ubuntustudio. === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-53-115.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock sends subliminal messages to #ubuntustudio, "Remove your soundcard and all will be well" [01:23] and grabs $20 from crimsun's hand [01:23] <_MMA_> lol [01:24] <_MMA_> Go listen to your Belle and Sebastian CD. [01:24] <_MMA_> :) === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-61.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@128.153.219.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] heya freeflying :) [01:50] Lutin: hi [01:51] how are you ? [01:53] preparing for the coming chinese traditional spring festival === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving..."] === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] Burgwork: I guess mdz didn't know that authtool is bitrotting in NEW :) === ajmitch is not subscribed to sounder so can't really reply right now === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] ajmitch: like he didn't know the Ubuntu Packaging Guide existed ;-) [02:16] heh [02:16] if I'm lucky it'll get accepted through NEW before release [02:20] is it in binary NEW? [02:22] nope [02:22] still source NEW === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] of course I was in a slight rush before FF, so I expect I'll have to revise it a couple of times before it'll get accepted [02:23] so maybe feisty+2 [02:25] :-) [02:27] I don't know if I'll be even around for feisty+2 === rmjb_ [n=richard@cuscon23960.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] LaserJock: Sure you will. :) [02:34] once I graduate I'll probably be gone :/ [02:34] <_ion> Gone? [02:34] LaserJock: just don't graduate :P [02:34] heh [02:34] I've been at uni 9 years [02:34] LaserJock: judging from my experience, I'd agree that you'll find little time. [02:34] sometimes you gjust gotta graduate [02:35] tritium!! [02:35] HI LaserJock :) [02:35] LaserJock: hm... 8 years for me I guess *g* [02:35] (though I stopped counting) [02:35] I'd stop too if people didn't keep asking me ;-) [02:36] tritium: how have you been? [02:36] t'was quite embarassing when I registered my thesis and didn't know in which term I was *g* [02:36] LaserJock: fine, thanks. Busy, of course. You? [02:37] <_ion> sistpoty: Hehe [02:37] sistpoty: lol [02:37] tritium: really busy, as always [02:38] I can imagine. [02:38] tritium: I had a postdoc inquiry from a guy at Sandia (Livermore) at a conference a couple weeks ago [02:39] hey tritium [02:39] LaserJock: Any follow up? [02:39] hi ajmitch [02:39] research has been slow. partly my fault (too much Ubuntu) and partly collaborators taking forever [02:39] tritium: not yet, need to get a paper or 2 out === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === drbeams [n=chatzill@24.225.22.191] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:40] LaserJock: that would be rather cool if that works out. [02:40] I'm not crazy for Livermore, but the pay's good [02:41] I'm out there quite regularly. [02:41] to the combustion research lab? === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] Heya [02:45] bddebian: :) [02:45] wb bddebian [02:45] LaserJock: oh, no, not ther. [02:45] tritium: ! [02:45] there [02:45] Heya sistpoty [02:45] LaserJock: inside the gate [02:46] tritium: I visited the combustion research facility once [02:46] it was nice, lots of good equipment [02:46] LaserJock: cool. [02:47] Yeah, I can imagine. I've toured it once, but I don't remember much. === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-117-48.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ursinha [n=ursinha@201.72.63.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-117-48.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["[-] === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ursinha [n=ursinha@201.72.63.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@189.0.159.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@25-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] gn8 everyone === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945554.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral_ [n=kyral@128.153.219.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] man, my reprepro mirroring is still going [04:40] hm [04:40] I really wonder how /usr/local is mounted at the moment [04:40] everything *seems* to be there [04:40] but /dev/md1 is marked as inactive [04:41] md1? what kind of device is that? [04:41] raid 0 [04:41] so it needs all 3 disks to be active [04:52] anyone feel it's their calling to answer a stupid Python question? [04:52] ;-) [04:52] I might allow a lease of my soul to that person for some time [04:52] or maybe just a restricted shell account on my soul [04:55] depends on how stupid it is [04:55] what would be a good test for determining if a variable is of a numeric type? [04:55] (i.e. float, int, etc) [04:56] i.e. not a sequence [04:57] (isinstance(variable, float) or isinstance(variable, int)) ? [04:57] that seems awkward though [04:57] to list every numeric type [04:58] Yeah. [04:58] (float,int,complex,long) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] Anything else is going to be a bit indirect, though? [05:00] I was hoping for a function that tested it [05:00] well, conversely, how would you test if something is a sequence? [05:00] well, I guess if len() doesn't bork with an exception [05:00] That'll work :) [05:00] wait, no that way wouldn't work [05:00] because I'd get infinite recursion with strings [05:01] Why? [05:01] all terms of a string are sequences [05:01] 'a'[0] = 'a' which_is sequence === Hobbsee waves [05:01] Obviously there's some context here. [05:01] >>> 'a'[0] [0] [0] [0] [0] [0] [05:01] 'a' [05:02] recursive algorithm [05:02] Oooooh, you want to unpack a sequence into atoms, right? [05:02] for adding up all the elements of an arbitrary dimension (nested) list [05:02] i.e. simple: [[1,2] ,[3,4] ] [05:02] I've got some code lying around which does that. [05:02] Let me drag it up :) [05:02] more complicated: [[[[[[1] ] ] ] ] ,2,[3] ,4] [05:02] write a function that's able to sum up any such list :) [05:03] i.e. sum of those previous two examples should return 10 [05:03] should *both* return 10 I should say [05:03] <_ion> If python had been object-oriented from the beginning, int, float etc. would have a common superclass. [05:03] _ion: but do they? [05:03] Yes, but it's "object" :) [05:03] class int(object) [05:03] | int(x[, base] ) -> integer [05:04] pfft [05:04] a bit less cheesy than Java [05:04] but nonetheless... pfft [05:04] def isAtomic(x): return not isinstance(x, (list, tuple)) [05:04] <_ion> "pfft" sums up python quite well. ;-) === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] _ion: "(((((((pfft)))))))))" sums up Scheme/LISP too. [05:05] RAOF: but what about a dict... [05:05] maybe it's easier to list numbers [05:05] Indeed. [05:05] wait [05:05] wait === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] operator! [05:05] module operator [05:05] operator.isNumberType! [05:05] whee! [05:05] Awesome! === jdong loves you all === RAOF squirrels that nugget away. [05:06] from operator import isNumberType [05:06] def addElements(a): [05:06] if isNumberType(a): [05:06] return a [05:06] sum=0 [05:06] for item in a: [05:06] sum+= addElements(item) [05:06] return sum [05:06] ^^ that works! [05:06] <_ion> raof: If by "awesome" you mean "pfft, ugly" :-) [05:07] _ion: pfft. [05:07] :) [05:07] _ion: how would YOU do it oh great master [05:07] and if it starts with os.system('perl -e......... [05:07] ;-) [05:08] <_ion> n.is_a? Numeric [05:08] and what magical language is that? [05:08] <_ion> ruby [05:09] pfft [05:09] so that's os.system('ruby..... [05:09] (I'm sure this would be considered cheating....) [05:10] <_ion> Or just #!/usr/bin/ruby ;-) [05:10] some kid already cheated the online homework system :) [05:10] _ion: well, it strips (safety strips) and evals() the answer you submit [05:10] and sends it thru some unit tests [05:10] we were having fun cracking the system last week :) [05:10] <_ion> Heh. [05:11] I made a MagicAnswer class that overloaded operator == to always return True :) [05:11] <_ion> :-) [05:12] another friend of mine uuencoded and compile()'ed a os.system() statement :) [05:12] file() and compile() weren't stripped. [05:12] <_ion> :-) [05:12] that lead to more interesting results :D [05:12] unfortunately it was FC6 with SELinux "jailed" apache [05:12] so it wasn't as fun as it could've been === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] 16GB ... I need a faster connection [05:26] Don't we all? :) === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] :) === jdong would love a faster connection === ajmitch returns [05:34] yay, ajmitch :) [05:34] yay? === ajmitch wonders what he's in for now [05:34] heh [05:37] What's the protocol for getting a second advocate for a package on REVU. [05:37] New packages need two acks, right? [05:37] beg [05:37] Ok. [05:37] bribe [05:38] RAOF: which package? === RAOF begs for someone to be the second advocate of specto http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4323 [05:38] LaserJock: bribe lots :P [05:38] ajmitch: REVUing, of course. [05:38] bang your fists and scream [05:38] Hobbsee: oh right [05:38] Hobbsee: can't do that, sorry [05:38] ajmitch: why not? [05:39] he's not qualified ;-) [05:39] RAOF: do you also intend to bring the package into debian? [05:39] LaserJock: exactly! === white tries to save a mail :) [05:40] white: I suppose that I should, yeah. [05:40] RAOF: you might want to have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributingToDebian === ajmitch looks at how to contribute to debian [05:40] white: recruiting more debian devs :P [05:40] i see [05:41] RAOF: and feel free to ask on debian-mentors@l.d.o. , utnubu-discuss@alioth.l.d.o. or the DDs who are around here [05:41] It might as well be in debian, too :) [05:41] Hobbsee: well he would have gotten a mail from me anyway :) [05:41] white: true === ajmitch hides [05:42] RAOF: in other words you can ask ajmitch or StevenK for sponsoring if you want :) [05:43] :) === white tries to hide now [05:44] do DDs track ubuntu bugs at all? [05:44] yes and no, depends [05:44] LaserJock: Depends on the package. [05:44] RAOF: but first, you should ask white for all DD stuff :) [05:44] and the maintainer I think. [05:44] ajmitch: bah [05:45] ajmitch: I've browsed though it before, but now that I've got something to which it might actually *apply*... [05:46] It would be good to get more bugs upstream, I haven't figured out the best way of doing that yet :/ [05:47] other than a ot of man power I guess [05:47] *lot [05:47] LaserJock: well you can use reportbug and send the stuff to debian bts [05:48] I was thinking more like a Malone -> BTS interface [05:48] but maybe reportbug is sufficent for most people [05:49] LaserJock: i reckon it is the best to educate people to send the stuff directly to debian bts and maybe keep malone for ubuntu specific things [05:50] but does Debian really want all kinds of "this crap doesn't work in Ubuntu" bugs :-) [05:50] depends on the way [05:51] if somebody writes me : "see this does not work here because of ... and can you maybe change it" then i do it if it does not break anything for debian [05:51] if somebody writes: "your crap does not work with ubuntu, fix it soon" then i am about to pipe it to /dev/null [05:51] heh [05:52] I just wonder with the difficulty we have with getting good bug reports if you really want it sometimes [05:52] white: how about "how dare you release such a buggy piece of crap with ubuntu?!?" [05:52] when it's an ubuntu change that has broken it [05:53] LaserJock: yes, there are some DDs around who explode if they see that the submitter uses ubuntu [05:53] and i think they just make the situation they want to change worse [05:53] ajmitch: then i ask here and bounce the mail to a MOTU [05:53] yay, flaming users [05:53] white: yes, sometimes it's an unrelated change that broke it [05:54] ie, zope3 is broken in ubuntu because twisted-web2 doesn't work with twisted which was upgraded to work with python2.5 [05:54] well it is obvious that i am all for bringing everything (especially universe stuff) into debian and then simply sync it from there [05:54] so 4 packages involved to break things [05:54] bringing everything into debian & syncing doesn't always work so well [05:55] well i guess it depends on the debian maintainer you have to work with [05:55] debian can move slowly in some areas [05:55] or not just that [05:55] well mostly people can step into the existing debian teams [05:55] we make changes in ubuntu that don't apply to debian yet [05:55] sometimes NMUs are appropriate [05:56] ajmitch: i get your point and know that there are parts where you maybe have to go ahead with ubuntu only things [05:56] hm, my ~/debian dir (which includes ubuntu stuff) is a mere 96GB [05:57] but i guess there are also areas where things can be improved, just like bringing new packages into universe (which should be done the other way around) [05:57] sure, as long as the barriers for contribution aren't too high [05:57] what do you mena? [05:57] I know I can easily get a package into debian [05:58] as long as debian-mentors is active, there are sponsors, NEW doesn't take too long, etc [05:58] so can everybody i reckon, some people just need a sponsor [05:58] here MOTUs have to advocate as well [05:58] at the moment, there are packages ~1 month old in debian NEW [05:59] and it is a shame i agree [05:59] we generally don't have to wait as long in ubuntu [05:59] though sometimes it gets too long [05:59] or differing freeze tims [05:59] so what about bringing them into debian NEW queue and then uploading to ubuntu already? [05:59] s/tims/times/ [05:59] re freeze times: stuff can afaik be synced even from experimental [05:59] I'm not arguing against getting stuff in debian [05:59] and I know that things can be synced [06:00] i know :) === ajmitch even has a couple of packages in debian still [06:04] a couple = 24 [06:04] :) === ajmitch shrugs [06:07] sometimes it just takes too long [06:09] to put stuff in Debian then get sync back [06:10] and many Ubuntu users have never used Debian [06:10] doesn't mean we can't try & help where possible [06:10] sure [06:10] but it takes me longer to figure out how to get things into Debian and get them synced back in [06:10] of course [06:11] especially when you need a fix in quick [06:11] that's what is tough [06:12] it's sort of hard to motivate unless you are already in Debian [06:19] is there some sort of "Debian for Ubunteros" wiki page on the debian wiki? === ajmitch shrugs [06:38] how would I find if something is run a suid? [06:44] You mean "running as suid", or has the suid bit set? [06:45] LaserJock: Because you can check the later with "ls -lah" and it looks something like "-rwSr-Sr--" === jnair [n=jayesh@203.123.188.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philwyett [n=philwyet@bb-87-81-146-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] Gnight folks === caravena_ [n=caravena@32-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] Laser_away: > [07:37] > regards [07:37] > Margaret [07:37] bah [07:37] Laser_away: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributingToDebian [07:37] that's what you are looking for i reckon === hoora_214 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-904ad28b064fd06e] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F77C77.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] good morning [08:06] hi daniel [08:06] hey andrew [08:12] white: I meant on Debian's wiki === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.226] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] linux-image-2.6.20-8-generic hasn't hit the archives yet? [08:41] seems so [08:42] zakame: I updated now, and can get that [08:43] coNP: thanks, I'll update again [08:43] zakame: yw === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-145-19.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LuisBG [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] LaserJock: ping [09:28] LaserJock: got my message ? [09:28] hmm [09:28] which one? [09:29] LaserJock: the one about gplcver package [09:29] I sent it to Laser_away [09:29] 2/3 days ago [09:30] yep, I see it now [09:30] so you need to do a sync request [09:30] me ? [09:30] how ? [09:30] me how ... sounds chinese [09:30] file a bug [09:31] where ? [09:32] and follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@h-67-102-70-2.snfccasy.covad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:36] LaserJock: what should the summary be for a sync request ? === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] the title of the bug? [09:38] Please sync foo 1.2.3-4 (unstable) from Debian (main) [09:38] or similar === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [09:40] ajmitch: thanks [09:41] ajmitch: what if I see that it is classified well [09:41] it's in devel [09:41] hm? [09:42] the package section doesn't matter, but the component does [09:42] I see that it should be in sciene [09:42] science [09:42] oh, ok [09:42] how do I know if it is in main or whatever there ? [09:43] apt-cache madison [09:44] there's a useful script linked on that page there [09:44] what page ? === ThunderFox [n=ThunderF@oh-71-55-62-166.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:47] the url I gave you a few minutes ago [09:47] oh [09:48] ajmitch: do you know if Debian NEW is being processed? [09:48] it seems kinda backed up, but I don't know if that's because of Etch or just generally being backed up [09:49] processed, very slowly [09:51] hmm, there's a package on there that I want to get into feisty [09:51] maybe I should just grab it and put it on REVU === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] grab it from where? [09:55] well, the author [09:55] ah [09:55] I thought you may have meant NEW [09:56] which is impossible [09:56] yeah [09:56] azeem is the sponsor and it's a data package [09:56] so I wouldn't think it'd be hard to get it through revu [10:02] LaserJock: according to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess , if a change would be made to the package, then sync request should be done [10:02] it no changes need to be made, do a sync request [10:03] *if [10:03] LaserJock: I see that sync is in 'devel' section, yet I think it should be in 'scientific' section [10:03] well, we can change that later if we really want to [10:04] LaserJock: yes there is as well, but i reckon it is more a place for the ubuntu wiki though [10:04] LaserJock: there is a whole team inside debian dedicated to help ubuntu people [10:04] it is called utnubu [10:05] ok, I ran: requestsync gplcver unstable [10:05] and that is pretty much why i am here :) [10:05] I suppose, although I would expect to find documentation on Debian to be on the Debian wiki ;-) [10:05] I got this: apt-cache madison does not contain gplcver/unstable [10:05] I know, I'm fairly familiar with utnubu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] ah great [10:05] LaserJock: well if you have anything, just nudge me [10:07] unfortunately I think my dislike for BTS is my biggest problem, not something someone else has done [10:07] well i presonally prefer BTS, but i fully agree with you that other bugtrackers, e.g. bugzilla, are easier for others, because of their nice web interface === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-75-85.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] BTS of Debian ? [10:08] I can appreciate the power of BTS [10:09] as I struggle with the web interface of Malone [10:09] but it took me a while to figure out how to get reportbug to send and email [10:10] it took a couple of hours to even know if my first bug made it [10:10] and in the end I think it created a dup [10:10] so I felt kinda silly [10:10] I have no clue how to control bugs [10:11] ajmitch: ok, I ran: requestsync gplcver unstable [10:11] ajmitch: I got this: apt-cache madison does not contain gplcver/unstable [10:12] white: that's where more of a "This is how you would do X in Debian" page would be handy [10:13] ajmitch: although the package does exist: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/gplcver [10:13] you need the deb-src lines in your sources.list [10:13] AnAnt: I think you have to have a deb-src line for unstable in your sources.list for that to work [10:13] bah [10:13] and the target is feisty, not unstable [10:14] oh ! [10:15] ok, I still dunno wether it is in main or what [10:16] ok, I found out [10:16] is it in ubuntu already? [10:16] ajmitch: no [10:17] then it will go into universe [10:17] whether it's main/universe only matters for the ubuntu side of things [10:17] since only ubuntu has universe [10:18] so I should subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to it ? [10:19] I don't see subscribe option, only assign [10:19] subscribe [10:19] once the bug is filed [10:19] don't subscribe ubuntu-archive [10:21] what does filed mean ? [10:21] submitted [10:22] I did submit it [10:25] ajmitch: here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/84857, is there anything else I should do ? [10:25] Malone bug 84857 in Ubuntu "Please sync gplcver 2.11a-3 (unstable) from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [10:25] that's mine ! [10:25] LaserJock: k [10:25] bah [10:26] LaserJock: i mean like there is the new maintainer guide and other stuff which explains all the basic things in debian [10:26] AnAnt: you haven't subscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors [10:26] http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ [10:26] ajmitch: I didn't see any subscribe field [10:27] oh, Subscribe someone else ? [10:27] white: well, I was thinking more like "Here's how to get a new package into Debian (ITP, debian mentors, etc.) [10:27] yes [10:28] white: or, "Here's how to file a bug (with a few easy examples of common cases" [10:28] or maybe I'm just blind and want things to easy ;-) === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] ajmitch: ok, done, thanks [10:30] ajmitch: I shouldn't subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors, right ? [10:32] no, you shouldn't [10:33] ok, thanks === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === herzi [n=herzi@p548FBC5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-75-85.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@34-192.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ is now known as luisbg === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_214 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-a7aa250918c29b8a] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-75-85.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-122-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@dslb-088-073-122-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] dholbach: hi [12:00] hiya ivoks [12:00] how are you? [12:09] ivoks: a bit tired and quite busy, but else good :) [12:09] ivoks: how are you? [12:09] same here :/ [12:09] at least, classes at faculty are over now, so i can prepare some things i was working on === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-60-226.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-75-85.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@sunq04.gbar.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando_ [n=fernando@189.0.138.65] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jnair [n=jayesh@61.95.197.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.250.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host47-159-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.40] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gpocentek [n=gauvain@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ursula_ [n=ursula@143.106.7.170] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] hi, just a quick question. how do i control if a package goes to universe or multiverse? === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-93-85.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] you dont [02:36] oh, he's gone === Kagou [n=Kagou@88-139-242-34.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] hi [02:48] <_MMA_> hallo [02:52] hi === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] someday i really want to have a talk to the linda developer [03:01] white@katha:~/white/debian/debs/sponsoring/videomanager$ linda videomanager_0.5-1_i386.changes [03:01] Roses are red, violets are blue, [03:01] lintian is dead and Culus goes moo. === StevenK waves. [03:01] Hi! === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@HyperDream.graham.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving..."] [03:07] StevenK: i dont think white saw you. you might be in luck === jnair [n=jayesh@203.123.188.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] -- Steve Kowalik Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:25:09 +1000 [03:07] waaaaaaaaaaaaaah [03:08] StevenK: got ya [03:08] from debian-edu channel: [03:08] 15:02 < white> one day i really want to drink a beer with the linda developer [03:08] 15:05 < Werner> white: then you did go the wrong way to study .. he lives in .uk :) [03:11] No, I don't === white goes to db.debian.org [03:12] white: Sydney, .au to save you the trouble [03:12] :) === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-93-85.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === brottman [n=brianr@vpn.beenegarter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc_ [n=schultmc@c-68-58-138-203.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium_ [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:03] Heya gang [04:06] hi bddebian [04:06] Hello lionel === tcurdt [n=tcurdt@p5484F716.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host47-159-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] hi there! === chrisj [n=tortoise@82.152.250.88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] I would love to see spread updated to the latest version http://www.spread.org/ [04:17] anyone I could somehow bribe to upgrade the package? :) [04:17] is there a issues tracking system or something to keep track of such requests? [04:18] tcurdt: yes, the bug tracker is a good option for this : https://launchpad.net [04:20] tcurdt: note that we are in UVF [04:20] if you want to introduce a new upstream release, you will need to ask for a UVF [04:21] lionel: sorry, but what's a UVF? :) [04:23] Upstream Version Freeze : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpstreamVersionFreeze === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-93-85.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] lionel: so IIUC atm no new upstream packages can be added? ...until the freeze is over? === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] tcurdt: it can be added if you get an exception [04:32] but you have to justify it, etc. [04:33] Otherwise, it whould be for feisty+1 === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] will there be a sync soon from Debian ? [04:36] I mean before feisty release [04:37] AnAnt: automatic sync from Debian are stoped since late December [04:37] ok [04:37] well, 3.x is old and I need version 4 ....but I doubt that qualifies for an exception ;-) [04:37] lionel: can I request a sync from a package that is in experimental ? [04:38] AnAnt: yes, no problem with that [04:39] lionel: I mean thru the launchpad [04:39] ok, thanks [04:39] lionel: couldn't the new package go somewhere else? ...say experimental? [04:39] Yes, open a bug saying "sync from experimental", please include the changelog from latest Ubuntu version [04:39] tcurdt: experimental is Debian :) [04:40] lionel: ok [04:40] tcurdt: if the Debian maintainer packahe the spread 4, I think it would be easier for everybody [04:41] ok ...will try to ping him and see how that goes. Thanks [04:41] tcurdt: wackamole depends on spread, if we update to 4, we should not break it. [04:41] (they have the same Debian Maintainer) [04:41] tcurdt: no problem :) [04:44] lionel: I should file the bug for the aircrack-ng package ? that's the package I want to sync [04:45] or should I leave the I don't know option checked ? [04:46] yes, file the bug on the source package that you want to sync [04:46] and scubscribe Ubuntu Sponsor for Universe [04:46] ok [04:47] thanks === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:47] Huch [04:48] too late, he left :) === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable208.212-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-032-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable208.212-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945161.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman [n=iceman@cable-87-244-154-165.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@34-192.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chninkel [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chninkel [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] hi folks [06:10] hi === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] Heya sistpoty [06:25] hi bddebian === mlpug [n=user@a85-156-253-211.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.144.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bronson [n=bronson@adsl-75-36-145-145.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@34-192.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-096-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-096-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@dslb-088-073-096-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _stefan_ [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.147.16.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@unaffiliated/redguy] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@32-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-148-63.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:01] morning === _Enchained [n=cyrille@88.166.169.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] hi ajmitch [08:04] Heya ajmitch, geser [08:05] hm, there's a small & growing stack of universe UVF exceptions [08:05] ajmitch: get to it then :) [08:05] not in motu-uvf [08:14] hi bddebian [08:15] are slomo and dholbach already looking at UVF exceptions? [08:15] geser: i'll look through the 6 or something open ones tonight === ptitdav69 [n=ptitdav6@254.39.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] our loyal, hardworking team of uvf handlers ;) === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === co-NP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html yay, no bug! === ajmitch shrugs [08:44] I guess something broke, oh well [08:45] heh === muzzol [n=muzzol@62-43-71-59.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] Adri2000: you have bugs to fix again [08:52] ah great, thanks :) === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === philwyett [n=philwyet@bb-87-81-146-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] did anyone experience something similar to bug #84668? [09:16] Malone bug 84668 in devmapper "adds misleading double entry to swapon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84668 [09:18] just testing... bug #84668 [09:18] Malone bug 84668 in devmapper "adds misleading double entry to swapon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84668 [09:18] uia === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@32-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@32-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] Hey MOTUs. [10:00] hello MOTU === neutrinomass [n=pandis@dhcp168.mansfield.ox.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] geser: Thanks for the uploads :) === hagi [n=hagi@adsl-84-226-96-131.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] Heya TheMuso === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-76-64.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] Wow. [10:19] Powerpc support dropped. [10:20] ? [10:21] it's a 'community-supported port' [10:21] see ubuntu-announce === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-80-145.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:22] the other decision is no binary drivers by default === TheMuso is happy with that. === ajmitch is slightly disappointed about the ppc decision, but it's not surprising [10:23] ajmitch: Yeah me too. [10:23] If I had a faster ppc, I'd probably join the team and help out. === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] a 400mhz g3 that runs osx 99.9% of the time is all I have access to at the moment :) === TheMuso has a 300Mhz G3. [10:26] Running as a small file/DNS/DHCP server. [10:27] I'd run GUI stuff, but the video card plays funny buggers with my KVM, and I couldn't be bothered tracking down another PCI Mac video card. === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-80-145.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@h-67-102-70-2.snfccasy.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gurkZor [n=gurkzor@81-231-116-171-no53.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gurkZor [n=gurkzor@81-231-116-171-no53.tbcn.telia.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Mohahaha"] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-80-145.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] Later gang === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-61.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp85-141-148-208.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jan__ [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jharr [n=jharr@137.48.138.204] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jan__ is now known as janm === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schultmc_ [n=schultmc@c-68-58-138-203.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host138-112.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ThunderFox [n=KitsuKun@oh-71-55-62-166.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === muzzol [n=muzzol@62-43-71-59.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@dhcp168.mansfield.ox.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-80-129.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] hmm, when is our motu meeting? === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] 10:00UTC [11:53] like 12 hrs or so from now === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] 11 hours & a bit [11:54] man, this is going to suck, I'm not sure if I'll make it or not [11:54] aw [11:54] try & make it, please :) === sistpoty distrusts his skill of disabling the alarm clock *during* sleep *g* [11:55] haha [11:55] but that'll be nice & late for you, the day will be half over ;) [11:56] :P [11:57] I was up until 3:00am last night [11:57] got up for a 9:00am dentist appointment === ajmitch was up until nearly 1AM [11:57] that lasted 3 hrs [11:57] fun! [11:59] sistpoty: could you have a look at the mlt package on revu when you have some time ? I get a lot of linda errors, and don't really know how to deal with them :/ [11:59] Lutin: sure [11:59] sistpoty: thanks :) === TheMuso notes that the MOTU meeting is at a convenient time this time around. [12:00] I'll be there. [12:03] I suppose it's good to get the other half of the world to the meeting ;-) [12:03] for some reason I seem to be in an odd TZ [12:03] not too many West Coasters in MOTU === ivoks [n=ivoks@19-98.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu