[12:01] <dimeotane> fl00d: you can use gparted in the live ubuntu cd
[12:01] <linxeh> is there any good dvd iso recording software for linux?
[12:01] <billybob> tom__: thing is, i havent experienced any problems
[12:01] <RPO> greetings, does anyone know how to backup boot sector & partition table in Ubuntu?
[12:01] <fl00d> dimeotane:how?
[12:01] <tom__> bilybob: then you're golden
[12:01] <negen> there is plenty of good dvd software for linux
[12:02] <dimeotane> you can delete the NTFS partition you don't want to make empty space
[12:02] <negen> but i dont know what you mean dvd iso recorder
[12:02] <billybob> tom__: basically, i was just lookign for feedback,from people who have used it, that is all :)
[12:02] <negen> that makes no since to me
[12:02] <gravelBad> hi all; tomcat ubuntu 6.10 question here
[12:02] <tom__> linxeh: check out gnome-files.org as a guide, then install those programs in synaptic
[12:02] <ElbridgeGerry> I'm off, folks.
[12:02] <negen> *sense
[12:02] <ElbridgeGerry> See you all.
[12:02] <dimeotane> negen.. gnome baker is good
[12:02] <fl00d> dimeotane: I meen how to get to gpartition?
[12:02] <ElbridgeGerry> Thanks for the help.
[12:02] <high-freq> net
[12:02] <dimeotane> when you boot using the ubuntu edgy live cd
[12:02] <spinster> somebody here can help me ?
[12:02] <agliv_> LiENUS, I must have different repositiories then, caus sytaptic shows me both linux-image-2.6.17-11-* and linux-headers-2.6.17-11-*
[12:03] <dimeotane> you can also download a gparted live boot cd... a very handy tool to have on hand
[12:03] <linxeh> tom__: many thanks - this is the first time ive tried to burn a dvd iso in linux in 10 years, and I find out cdrecord doesnt do it without paying :o
[12:03] <fl00d> Ok well I'm off I will go try it. Thanks for your help you 2 ;)
[12:03] <ahave> well, unrar-free doesnt seem to want to work with me.. so how do i go about gettings multiverse's unrar?
[12:03] <DarK_007> hello
[12:03] <tom__> linxeh: oh you just want to burn an iso... use gnomebaker
[12:03] <fl00d> later guys and thanks xD
[12:03] <dimeotane> linx: you can rightclick an DVD iso file on the ubuntu desktop and burn it
[12:03] <tom__> !multiverse | ahave
[12:03] <ubotu> ahave: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:04] <DarK_007> heyyyyyy
[12:04] <negen> burning dvd iso is nearly the same as burning a cd iso k3b will also burn iso's
[12:04] <RPO> where is GBACKUP?
[12:04] <crackintosh> Does anyone know of a wireless USB dongle that works out of the box?
[12:04] <nexousNET> Hi, How do I add my current user to have access to all permissions for /opt/lampp/htdocs ?
[12:04] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi anybody got listen 0.5 beta to work
[12:04] <Redhammer_the_Ol> properly
[12:04] <Redhammer_the_Ol> on edgy
[12:04] <tom__> k3b is a dirty KDE program though. Doesn't work well in a gnome envirnment.
[12:04] <LiENUS> crackintosh, define "out of the box"
[12:04] <negen> i have no problems but dont burn very much
[12:04] <auTONYmous> tom_: you beat me to it
[12:04] <CupCakeMaster> Hello, i have a lil problem
[12:04] <LiENUS> crackintosh, is downloading drivers for ndiswrapper acceptable?
[12:05] <dimeotane> LiENUS: my guess is... he means you plug the sucker in while running ubuntu and it works... idiot proof
[12:05] <CupCakeMaster> when browing with firefox the scrolling seem to be very very choppy
[12:05] <RPO> can Ubuntu create a bootable boot sector & partition table recovery disk?
[12:05] <CupCakeMaster> and way to fit this
[12:05] <crackintosh> something that does not require configuration for use on linux.
[12:05] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know why Azureus will not minimize to my system tray?
[12:05] <LiENUS> dimeotane,  windows never does that... and its generallly "idiot proof"
[12:05] <crackintosh> i've got bigger fish to fry today, i dont want to spend time on it
[12:05] <agliv_> LiENUS, should I pastebin my repositories list?
[12:06] <negen> frying big fish is tricky sometimes they burn befor fully cooked
[12:06] <doofy2> is the performace of software raid pretty good? I have two western digital raptors and was thinking of putting them on raid 0. Would this increase me read/write performace?
[12:06] <dimeotane> LiENUS: more like it was made by idiots  =p
[12:06] <billybob> LiENUS: except, when accompanied with an idiot, windows machines keep me in business ;)
[12:06] <nexousNET> !chmod
[12:06] <ahave> will un archiving tool such as ARK, designed to work in a KDE, work in my gnome?
[12:06] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:06] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know why Azureus will not minimize to my system tray?
[12:06] <vrtical> Hi, I'm a newb trying to boot in framebuffer mode on dapper.  setting video=i810fb at the boot prompt doesn't work, it still boots in text mode.  Am unsure how to proceed.
[12:06] <crackintosh> ahave: probably
[12:06] <LiENUS> dimeotane, actually... ms developers are quite inteligent
[12:06] <tom__> youkilldkennedy: we heard you last time
[12:06] <dimeotane> yea forsure...
[12:06] <hairulfr> youkilldkennedy: Is it important for you to use azureus? If not, try freeloader, IMO it's better
[12:06] <auTONYmous> CupCakeMaster: Edit > Preferences > Advanced > turn on "Smooth Scrolling"
[12:06] <dimeotane> but i love to hammer the competition
[12:07] <CupCakeMaster> did alredddi
[12:07] <tom__> youkilldkennedy: probably because azereus is not designed to work in gnome.
[12:07] <LiENUS> dimeotane, look at it this way...
[12:07] <CupCakeMaster> and yet stil lvery choopy
[12:07] <negen> do you have a notifaction area in your pannel
[12:07] <LiENUS> how often do you see a ms developer on irc?
[12:07] <youkilldkennedy> Hairulfr, not important, just used to it.
[12:07] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy, perhaps a problem with java? have the newest version installed?
[12:07] <dimeotane> LiENUS: personally I get a bit tired of the VIRI and the EULAs, and the serials, and the subscrition fees... sooooooo
[12:07] <LiENUS> and how much time have you wasted on irc today?
[12:07] <billybob> LiENUS: i see them on IRC every day
[12:07] <LiENUS> billybob, err where?
[12:07] <hairulfr> youkilldkennedy: Then get freeloader :) Faster as well (a cooler name too)
[12:07] <youkilldkennedy> agliv_: Yep, newest versions, checked that before coming here.
[12:07] <auTONYmous> CupCakeMaster: Is scrolling choppy in any other apps?
[12:07] <Redhammer_the_Ol> anybody can provide help with listen 0.5 beta
[12:07] <LiENUS> billybob, you just killed my logic :/
[12:07] <youkilldkennedy> hairulfr: I'll check that out then, thanks.
[12:08] <dimeotane> LiENUS: it's just less complicated to say, "made by idiots for idiots"
[12:08] <Redhammer_the_Ol> it does not take in my 0.4 library
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking for gawk... no
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking for mawk... mawk
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking for style of include used by make... GNU
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking for gcc... gcc
[12:08] <LiENUS> billybob,  my name is inigo montoyo you killed my logic, prepare to die
[12:08] <Redhammer_the_Ol> nor my podcasts
[12:08] <billybob> LiENUS: then again, i know a couple of MS devs, on IRC< that ive known since beforethey worked for MS ;)
[12:08] <CupCakeMaster> yes
[12:08] <hairulfr> youkilldkennedy: No problem :)
[12:08] <tom__> youkilldkennedy: try using the torrent program that ships with ubuntu. it works all the time.
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> See `config.log' for more details
[12:08] <glundberg> has anyone had a problem with ubuntu hanging during reboot?
[12:08] <CupCakeMaster> for example this chat as it moves down
[12:08] <linuxnewbie756> how can i fix that?
[12:08] <negen> Linuxmint might have somthing going if poeple want a turnkey style of ubuntu
[12:08] <CupCakeMaster> its not smooth at all
[12:08] <LiENUS> billybob, ah, thats different
[12:08] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy, can you restart and autoupdate?
[12:08] <auTONYmous> CupCakeMaster:  Well, IRC scrolling and firefox scrolling are two different animals...
[12:08] <CupCakeMaster> well i would liek tof ix the firefox one
[12:08] <LiENUS> billybob, i mean you dont see ms developers randomly on irc, you dont see sun developers randomly on irc, you dont see ibm developers randomly on irc
[12:08] <dimeotane> l8r sk8rs
[12:08] <billybob> LiENUS: one is a game dever, the other was, but went to work for them for a different reason
[12:08] <youkilldkennedy> agliv_: Yeah
[12:08] <CupCakeMaster> that is my main problem
[12:09] <LiENUS> these 3 groups have one thing in common
[12:09] <billybob> err , different job type
[12:09] <LiENUS> they are all VERY smart
[12:09] <pollywog> how do I know whether I should run a generic kernel image or 386?
[12:09] <pollywog> both seem to work
[12:09] <LiENUS> the only thing really seperating them is the management
[12:09] <auTONYmous> CupCakeMaster: *shrug* could be anything from vid drivers, to mouse driver, to the mouse itself. Hard to say
[12:09] <billybob> yes, they are, you dont go work for MS, and not knowing wtf you  are doing, thats for sure
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> i am trying to compile a program from source, but this pops up
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking for gawk... no
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking for mawk... mawk
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking for style of include used by make... GNU
[12:09] <atomiku-linux> is there a way to see what hardware is plugged in the computer so i can get the name of my graphics card?
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking for gcc... gcc
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:09] <linuxnewbie756> See `config.log' for more details
[12:09] <nikin> does anyone know a good guide how to scale Xubuntu for lowend systems? (P2 400 / 128MB RAM)
[12:10] <pollywog> newbie please don't flood
[12:10] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy, and what happens when you click the x in the upper right of the window?
[12:10] <CupCakeMaster> well scrolling a document i get no problems
[12:10] <CupCakeMaster> but on firefox and opera i do
[12:10] <youkilldkennedy> agliv_: Not responding and I must force quit.
[12:10] <billybob> LiENUS: pretty much, ANYONE who works for, or works on, any project revolving around an OS< or its internals,has to be pretty smart
[12:11] <pollywog> newbie are you installing vmware?
[12:11] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy, you do have 2.5.0.4, correct?
[12:11] <CupCakeMaster> and if it were to be my videocard wher eexactly would i find the driver for me "nvidia geforce 6150 LE"
[12:11] <atomiku-linux> is there a way to see what hardware is plugged in the computer so i can get the name of my graphics card?
[12:11] <billybob> LiENUS: i consider myself a fairly decent hobbyiest programmer, and I dotn think i could hack it
[12:11] <pollywog> atomiku-linux: lspci
[12:11] <atomiku-linux> pollywog: thanks
[12:11] <djm62> excuse me, X appears to be unresponsive on my ubuntu laptop: how on earth do I restart gdm politely?
[12:11] <Hairy> :)
[12:12] <LiENUS> billybob, its not as bad as it seems...
[12:12] <pollywog> djm62: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:12] <atomiku-linux> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3]  (rev a3)
[12:12] <LiENUS> billybob,  granted its been a few years since i've done that kind of stuff...
[12:12] <thekidrio> djm62:  sudo /etc/initi.d/gdm restart
[12:12] <atomiku-linux> so its a nvidia! Excellent!
[12:12] <LiENUS> but when i was doing it before i was 15
[12:12] <djm62> d'oh
[12:12] <mycologist> has anyone managed to get a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Value to work with ubuntu?
[12:12] <thekidrio> err yeah what pollywog said hehe
[12:12] <atomiku-linux> Ill be able to get drivers for this then play my game! :D
[12:12] <youkilldkennedy> agliv_: Finding version number hard to find. one second.
[12:12] <djm62> thx all, it's been a while... I thought init had disappeared
[12:12] <billybob> LiENUS: well, ive actually 'researched' writting my own OS, a few times, and no, its not that bad, its just that I dont ALWAYS feel like coding, as a matter of a fact, its been a few months since ive coded anythign
[12:12] <pollywog> atomiku-linux: I just did sudo apt-get install glx
[12:13] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy, help->version...
[12:13] <pollywog> atomiku-linux: I just did 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:13] <atomiku-linux> Okay dude, thanks. Installing glx now
[12:13] <atomiku-linux> oh
[12:13] <atomiku-linux> nvidia-glx? okay
[12:13] <pollywog> atomiku-linux: I just did 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[12:13] <pollywog> yes like that nvidia-glx
[12:13] <LiENUS> granted when i was doing that i wasnt drugged out of my mind like they keep me now :/
[12:13] <atomiku-linux> Installing now :P
[12:13] <youkilldkennedy> agliv_: It's not there, but I found it. 2.5.0.0
[12:13] <CupCakeMaster> where can i find the driver for my nvidia video card
[12:13] <billybob> LiENUS: for one localization is a PITA, then talkign about multiple different hardware platforms, man, thats a lot of work.
[12:13] <atomiku-linux> If my game works ill be very happy
[12:13] <gravelBad> regarding tomcat 5.5 and 6.10 from universe repositories and I'm getting this error: WARNING: error instantiating 'org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager' referenced by java.util.logging.manager, class not found
[12:13] <gravelBad> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager not found
[12:13] <gravelBad>    <<No stacktrace available>>
[12:13] <tom__> !nvidia | cupcakemaster
[12:13] <ubotu> cupcakemaster: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:13] <RPO> Can you upgrade 32-bit ubuntu to 64-bit ubuntu?
[12:14] <LiENUS> billybob, if you want to write your own os, go embedded
[12:14] <tom__> !pastebin| gravelbad
[12:14] <ubotu> gravelbad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <LiENUS> billybob, i wrote code for the sega dreamcast...
[12:14] <pukekoe> why is there no inittab in /etc on dapper ?
[12:14] <LiENUS> RPO, that sounds like a horrible idea
[12:14] <djm62> 68000 ftw!
[12:14] <billybob> LiENUS: sounds like fun.
[12:14] <LiENUS> pukekoe,  i have one...
[12:14] <tom__> Lienus: a good business decision i bet ;) lol
[12:14] <mycologist> is there a page on how to get different sound cards to work with ubuntu? i have an Audigy 2 Value
[12:14] <ahave> does ubuntu have a built in VNC that i can use to connect to a VNC server running on win2k?
[12:14] <tom__> ahave: yes
[12:14] <pukekoe> LiENUS: ? why don't i ?
[12:15] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy, try updating to the newest version...
[12:15] <rob5> if i have a single drive with my data on it and decided I wanted to add an additional drive and setup RAID1, do I have to reformat the first drive with all my data on it and reinstall or would the second drive automatically 'mirror' the content on the first one?
[12:15] <atomiku-linux> Hmmm.... still doenst work
[12:15] <ahave> tom_, named?
[12:15] <tom__>  !vnc | ahave
[12:15] <ubotu> ahave: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:15] <LiENUS> billybob, my current project revolves around a standardized x86 system... all of generation 1 be exactly the same, all of generation 2 will be exactly the same.
[12:15] <billybob> apt-cache search VNC . . .
[12:15] <LiENUS> billybob, greatly simplifies things if you pick the hardware rather than letting your users
[12:16] <LiENUS> although its still giving me fits :/
[12:16] <billybob> LiENUS:can you elaborate, or do you have an NDAin effect ?
[12:16] <billybob> NDA in effect*
[12:16] <billybob> LiENUS: who do yo uwork for ?
[12:16] <LiENUS> billybob, myself?
[12:16] <mycologist> can anyone help me with a sound card issue? i've spent 2 hours on this :(
[12:16] <billybob> LiENUS: you seem unsure of that ;)
[12:17] <LiENUS> billybob, i'm a business major in college
[12:17] <LiENUS> billybob, have several products, am working on investors now
[12:17] <gravelBad> tomcat bug on 6.10 with gij: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5489/ involves org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager
[12:17] <billybob> LiENUS: anyhow, yeah indies are few and far inbetween any more, but i know a few sucsessful ones
[12:17] <ahave> any XChat users here?
[12:17] <hanso> !dist-upgrade
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <billybob> from IRC of course.
[12:17] <tom__> billybob: you're kidding
[12:17] <LiENUS> billybob, actually im trying to incorporate asap
[12:17] <LjL> !upgrade > hanso    (hanso, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:17] <hairulfr> LiENUS: I designing a gun, interested?
[12:17] <RPO> Can anyone help me with some ubuntu questions?
[12:17] <LjL> !ask
[12:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:18] <spinster> hello how to install adobe flashplayer 9 ?
[12:18] <spinster> can somebody tell me ?
[12:18] <spinster> a
[12:18] <LjL> !flash > spinster    (spinster, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:18] <LiENUS> hairulfr, haha i'm not sure im technically allowed to have guns...
[12:18] <RPO> Where is gparted?
[12:18] <billybob> tom__: im talkign abtu single devers, who actuall sell, and make good amoutns of monies, not the average joe, like me, who writes their own stuff whe nthey feellike it
[12:18] <gravelBad> Can i pay some one for support? I've tried to get contacted from the official support team twice and no luck
[12:18] <pukekoe> is it ok to create an inittab if one does not exit ( dapper) ?
[12:18] <tom__> billybob: ohh if you want to talk about profits hehehe i know lots of devs who don't make money ;)
[12:19] <LjL> pukekoe: uh... your *Dapper* doesn't have inittab? i'd understand if it were Edgy, but
[12:19] <pukekoe> eeek it is an edgy
[12:19] <billybob> tom__: yes, but making a confotable living isnt nessisarily a bad thing
[12:19] <LjL> RPO: don't know, but why don't you just do Alt+F2 and type "gparted" (if you have it installed, that is)
[12:19] <spinster> LjL, ok
[12:19] <th_> why is there no Mplayer package in ubuntu?
[12:19] <billybob> comfortable
[12:19] <LiENUS> pukekoe, edgy and dapper are different
[12:19] <hairulfr> LiENUS: No no, I mean the manufacturing and selling of guns :)
[12:19] <LjL> pukekoe: well then it's ok to create it, but it will be almost totally ignored.
[12:19] <LjL> !upstart > pukekoe    (pukekoe, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:19] <RootSnatch> hey I have proftpd installed, and I am getting a lot of brute force attacks on my the ftp server, what is the best way to stop those, I do run iptables
[12:19] <RPO> LjL, tried it, didn't work, and I can find gsearch tool either
[12:19] <RPO> can=cannot
[12:20] <pukekoe> LjL : ta
[12:20] <th_> RootSnatch, to change the port that proftpd is listening on :)
[12:20] <LjL> pukekoe: the only think that will be taken into account, as far as i know, is the default runlevel, if you set one in inittab
[12:20] <billybob> RootSnatch: add those hosts to host.deny ?
[12:20] <LjL> RPO: but do you have it installed?
[12:20] <RPO> and I can't find Gbackup either
[12:20] <RootSnatch> I need to stay on the same port
[12:20] <LjL> RPO: type "apt-cache policy gparted", does it show it as installed?
[12:20] <RPO> LjL, I thought gparted installed by default
[12:20] <RootSnatch> and i want to add the hosts automaticlly
[12:20] <RootSnatch> not manually
[12:20] <Lionheart> Hey, I have a quick question. In the character map it says "U+00A9", what keys do I press to get that symbol?
[12:20] <LjL> RPO: not sure, i'm on Kubuntu
[12:21] <billybob> RootSnatch: im sure you could write a scrpt, or have someone write one for you.
[12:21] <RPO> LjL, yes
[12:21] <andre> hey guys
[12:21] <flounder> i'm having some trouble getting a dvd-rw drive up and running...if anyone can help out let me know
[12:21] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy,
[12:21] <RPO> LjL, sorry, no it's not
[12:21] <nikin> is there a way to downgrade my PC for a time... i want to try some programs, how they run on low end maschines
[12:21] <agliv_> youkilldkennedy, still there or trying to update?
[12:21] <LjL> RPO: then  sudo apt-get install gparted 
[12:21] <LiENUS> nikin, the most you could do is remove a ram chip if you have more than one
[12:22] <LjL> nikin: use a virtual machine...
[12:22] <LjL> !virtualizers > nikin    (nikin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:22] <LiENUS> heh or that
[12:22] <th_> nikin if you remove cache from the BIOS it will be really slow...
[12:22] <andre> I've got a weird problem with ubuntu.  after I leave the computer alone for a short period it stops responding.  even if I leave it alone at the login screen it'll stop responding there.... help! what is going on?
[12:22] <LjL> nikin: try qemu if you want something slow ;)
[12:22] <LiENUS> LjL,  bochs is slower..
[12:22] <tyler_> hey all I just installed a new wifi card in my desktop and I don't know how to activate it anyhelp?
[12:22] <LiENUS> actually qemu is quite fast...
[12:22] <billybob> RootSnatch: anyhow, a script that say monitors attempts to log in, and failures within a certain amoutn of time, get written to hosts.deny, or something
[12:22] <tom__> i have no problems with qemu.
[12:22] <LiENUS> LjL,  i believe bochs will let you lock it at a certain speed...
[12:22] <LjL> LiENUS: well, it's slow compared to programs that use the native CPU
[12:23] <tom__> yeah of course.
[12:23] <LiENUS> nikin, your computer isnt a laptop is it?
[12:23] <AncientMartian> Rather new to this Ubuntu, none of the USB devices are working or seen from what i can tell....any ideas?
[12:23] <Fuori_dal_Tunnel> salve
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> So... is there some sort of nvidia config command then?
[12:23] <th_> nikin, if you just want something simple then run this command a few times in the shell: " ( while true; do echo > /dev/null; done ) &"
[12:23] <Fuori_dal_Tunnel> hi to all
[12:23] <gravelBad> anyone able to help with a tomcat installation issue on 6.10 server?
[12:23] <LjL> LiENUS: that's quite possible, as it was meant to be more of an "IBM emulator" than a "virtual machine" (not that there is a difference, just one of intents...)
[12:23] <Fuori_dal_Tunnel> help for italian user?
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> I tried this:
[12:23] <billybob> RootSnatch: ive never used proftpd, but perhaps it eve nhas that functionality built in already ?
[12:23] <LjL> !it > Fuori_dal_Tunnel    (Fuori_dal_Tunnel, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> atomiku@atomiku-linux:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> A
[12:23] <LjL> !paste > atomiku-linux    (atomiku-linux, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:23] <RPO> LjL, it asks for a pasword
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> oh sorry, it pasted 4 lines
[12:23] <Fuori_dal_Tunnel> k
[12:23] <atomiku-linux> it was only supposed to be 3
[12:23] <LjL> RPO: it's your password, type it
[12:23] <CupCakeMaster> im trying to instal my videocard driver and one of the steps is "Find the appropriate module for your kernel" where do i find which one i have?
[12:23] <LjL> !sudo > RPO    (RPO, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:23] <pukekoe> i want to use mgetty and am used to /etc/inittab  i have sysv-rc-conf  what else do i need ?
[12:23] <Fuori_dal_Tunnel> thanks a lot
[12:23] <Fuori_dal_Tunnel> ;)
[12:23] <Fuori_dal_Tunnel> bye
[12:24] <mycologist> when i try to open alsamixer i get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device". any reason for this?
[12:24] <andre> I've got a weird problem with ubuntu.  after I leave the computer alone for a short period it stops responding.  even if I leave it alone at the login screen it'll stop responding there.... help! what is going on?
[12:24] <RPO> LjL, password didn't work
[12:24] <LjL> pukekoe, i'm afraid i don't know much about upstart, you'll have to read a bit about it. i'm quite sure that an inittab will *not* work, though
[12:24] <LjL> RPO: what did it say?
[12:24] <youkilldkennedy> agliv_: Having some weird troubles, my top and bottom task bars died...
[12:24] <pukekoe> Ljl: cool i'll check out upstart
[12:25] <CupCakeMaster> how do i findout what kernal i have?
[12:25] <LjL> pukekoe: start from the link Ubotu gave you. upstart is quite totally different from the old init - that much i can say
[12:25] <LjL> CupCakeMaster: uname -r
[12:25] <andre> uname -r
[12:25] <billybob> CupCakeMaster" 'uname -s'
[12:25] <quaal> man
[12:25] <billybob> err -a
[12:25] <quaal> azureus kinda sucks
[12:25] <CupCakeMaster> where do i type that
[12:25] <billybob> errr
[12:25] <pukekoe> LjL: ta cheers
[12:25] <billybob> ...
[12:25] <andre> terminal
[12:25] <LjL> !cli > CupCakeMaster    (CupCakeMaster, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:25] <billybob> CupCakeMaster: term
[12:26] <andre> cupcakemaster: in terminal
[12:26] <BigMac> Hey when I load I get anerror that my x server gui fails to load
[12:26] <BigMac> is there a way to load in safe mode
[12:26] <tyler_> ifconfig lists eth1 as not there but iwconfig can see it but ifup won't bring the device up I'm lost
[12:26] <LjL> BigMac: no. well, there's recovery mode, but that will just bring you to a console.
[12:26] <BigMac> then have it install the default xorg.conf
[12:26] <LjL> BigMac: just type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and select the VESA driver, for a safe mode
[12:26] <andre> Bigmac, you can do that from command line
[12:27] <youkilldkennedy> Having some weird troubles, my top and bottom task bars died... anyone know how to restore them?
[12:27] <RPO> LjL, 3 incorrect password attempts
[12:27] <CupCakeMaster> thanks alot guys
[12:27] <LjL> BigMac: however... do you have Edgy and third-party nvidia or ati drivers?
[12:27] <BigMac> andre:how do I enter the command line, and what is the command
[12:27] <billybob> tyler_: nic modules are loaded ?
[12:27] <LjL> RPO: have you enabled the root account for some reason? have you ever used a GUI application using "sudo" instead of "gksudo"?
[12:27] <tyler_> billybob, not sure I don't know how to check all I know is that iwconfig can see the device
[12:28] <youkilldkennedy> Bueller? Bueller?
[12:28] <nikin> sry for answering late... one of it is a laptop wth scalable CPU from 600 to 1600 Mhz the other is a 2,4Ghz Desktop
[12:28] <LjL> youkilldkennedy?
[12:28] <andre> bigmac: do what LJL suggested,  if you don't know where the terminal is, you should probably head his advise.
[12:28] <BigMac> LjL: I have edgy and ati drivers because I was trying to install beryl
[12:28] <billybob> tyler: basically, you need to know what nic you have, and what module you need then . . .
[12:28] <gravelBad> has anyone had this issue with a tomcat install on 6.10?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5489/
[12:28] <billybob> try 'lsmod'
[12:28] <andre> BigMac:  in any case the terminal is:
[12:28] <billybob> to see if the NICmodule is loaded
[12:28] <youkilldkennedy> LjL... t'wasn't me I swear!
[12:28] <billybob> NIC module*
[12:28] <andre> bigmac: in applications>accessories>terminal
[12:28] <tyler_> billybob ok I'll be right back
[12:28] <LjL> BigMac: and when did this problem appear? after you rebooted yesterday or such perhaps?
[12:29] <BigMac> andre:if you listened to what I said, I can't load thegui so I can't access gnome...
[12:29] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know how to restore the bottom and top taskbars? For some reason they died.
[12:29] <billybob> tyler_: probably need to pip lsmod to less
[12:29] <Qzr> Im trying to install beryl and ive come to the line "Add key" on http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Nvidia.29 and when i add that line and try apt-get update i get the error "E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list" could anyone help me with this?
[12:29] <billybob> pipe*
[12:29] <RPO> LjL, OK, got it.
[12:29] <LjL> youkilldkennedy: try Alt+F2 and typing "gnome-panel"... IIRC
[12:29] <andre> bigmac: then you must be at a command prompt then
[12:29] <andre> bigmac: no?
[12:29] <BigMac> LlJ yah beryl was bering malfunct, so I logged out last night, then I just booted up and I get this error
[12:29] <phantom> gnome network manager does not show my Intel 2200 wireless network card?
[12:30] <phantom> how do I fix thi
[12:30] <phantom> this*
[12:30] <youkilldkennedy> LjL: Alt+F2 does nothing.
[12:30] <LiENUS> phantom, is your network card working in linux?
[12:30] <tyler_> billybob, Idon't see it in lsmod its a linksys
[12:30] <LjL> BigMac, there has been a kernel upgrade, and ati and nvidia drivers won't work anymore unless you update them.
[12:30] <nikin> how can i add Debian menu to Xfce?
[12:30] <phantom> it did earlier
[12:30] <billybob> tyler_: ah, not sure what to do there :/
[12:30] <phantom> I can do it through the command line
[12:30] <youkilldkennedy> LjL: Any ideas?
[12:30] <LiENUS> nikin,  shouldnt you ask that in #debian?
[12:30] <BigMac> But I was logged out so how would it update?
[12:31] <tyler_> billybob I'll go google around for a bit thanks anyways
[12:31] <dsquare> hi how do i change my main font colour please?
[12:31] <andre> BigMac:  you would've updated before you logged out
[12:31] <andre> Bigmac:  update occur within the last week
[12:31] <LjL> youkilldkennedy: not really, for i use KDE... i'll check the logs if i can find an answer (i suppose restarting X doesn't work?)
[12:31] <BigMac> ok so what should I do to get ubuntu back to working
[12:32] <nikin> Lienus: its an ubuntu problem... coz i have the option i just cant check it somehow. And the intsalled system is Ubuntu 6.10 and later added xubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <mamzers555> hello, this is off-toppic, is somebody from france here?
[12:32] <RPO> LjL, ok, the apt-get install gbackup is complete -- what now?
[12:32] <andre> bigmac, switch the line that says "nvidia" in your xorg.conf back to "nv"
[12:32] <andre> bigmac: then update your nvidia driver
[12:32] <LjL> RPO: eh? weren't we talking about gparted?
[12:32] <BigMac> andre:I have an ati card
[12:32] <RPO> LiENUS, 32-bit to 64-bit is horrible idea?  won't work?  driver problems?
[12:32] <andre> bigmac: sorry, can't help ya then...
[12:32] <LiENUS> RPO, more likely software problems
[12:33] <youkilldkennedy> LjL: How do I restart or log off with keystrokes?
[12:33] <LiENUS> hmm thats weird
[12:33] <andre> ctrl-alt-backspace?
[12:33] <LjL> youkilldkennedy: what andre said
[12:33] <LiENUS> the one instance linux has software problems whereas windows has driver problems...
[12:33] <BigMac> Can someone help me because I can't even boot up
[12:34] <LjL> BigMac, uh, you can't boot? didn't you say that you just couldn't get X started?
[12:34] <andre> BigMac: did you make a backup of your xorg.conf file?
[12:34] <BigMac> andre:nope
[12:34] <tom__> bad decision
[12:34] <andre> BigMac: big no no
[12:34] <tom__> bigmac: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:34] <vrtical> Can anyone offer me some general advice about booting in framebuffer mode?  Will I need to recompile the kernel to enable this (on an up-to-date dapper box with intel 815 graphics)?
[12:34] <tom__> should fix you up
[12:35] <BigMac> LjL; It starts loading then when it should go to lgin screen I get that error and it says access server mode to view problems or resart
[12:35] <billybob> andre: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:35] <phantom> can anyone help me here, I have an Intel 2200, it is not seen in Network manager but I can use it in the CL
[12:35] <tom__> billybob: thats what i said.
[12:35] <tom__> ;L
[12:35] <andre> bigmac: do what tom__ said once you get to the command line
[12:35] <LjL> BigMac: server mode?
[12:35] <billybob> tom__: soudns reasonable to me . . .
[12:35] <RPO> LjL, er, gbackup=gparted
[12:36] <LjL> i'm not entirely sure i have it clear in my mind what screen you're seeing...
[12:36] <LjL> BigMac: you aren't on Feisty, are you?
[12:36] <LjL> RPO: ok, then now alt+f2 and "gparted"
[12:36] <LjL> RPO: (it will probably have to be "gksudo gparted", though)
[12:36] <BigMac> LjL:Nope I am on edgy
[12:36] <LjL> BigMac: well, see if you can just press Alt+F2 or Alt+F3 and get a "login" prompt, after X doesn't start
[12:36] <Anti-Tedd> LiENUS, I ended up just switching frequencies XD
[12:36] <billybob> BigMac : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:37] <Anti-Tedd> Is there a way that I can get my original sources.list back?
[12:37] <alecjw> LjL, yes, it iwll have to be gksudo'ed because it does mkfs etc
[12:37] <LjL> BigMac: if you do, then just type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and select the VESA driver (as for the rest of the question, press Enter on the defaults)
[12:37] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, 1 sec
[12:37] <LiENUS> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[12:37] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd,  switching frequencies fixed it?
[12:37] <LjL> alecjw: depends, the user might well have access to the disk :)
[12:37] <Anti-Tedd> LiENUS, I think so
[12:37] <billybob> LiENUS: have yo uworked o nthe ubuntu dev team ?
[12:37] <Anti-Tedd> Gotta run some testing though
[12:37] <RPO> LjL, can I reset the root password using the Live CD the way you can with Mac OS X?
[12:38] <andre> LJL: ever hear of ubuntu not responding very well after being left alone for a certain period of time?
[12:38] <LiENUS> billybob, no
[12:38] <LjL> RPO: why have a root password?
[12:38] <LjL> andre: nope
[12:38] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, you using 802.11g?
[12:38] <RPO> LjL, hehehe, well it's there and I seem to have forgotten it.
[12:38] <Anti-Tedd> LiENUS, yeah
[12:38] <LiENUS> ah
[12:38] <LjL> !root > RPO    (RPO, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:38] <andre> LJL: dang... tx...
[12:38] <Anti-Tedd> although it's still kinda slow
[12:38] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd,  do you have a cordless phone?
[12:39] <LjL> RPO: you said you managed to do the "sudo apt-get install" thing, so that means you *can* get root access, which in turns means that you won't need a live CD to obtain it back
[12:39] <Anti-Tedd> LiENUS, yes I do
[12:39] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, ahh, you might want to look into moving to 802.11a then...
[12:39] <RPO> LjL, yeah I know it worked that one time, now it doesn't
[12:39] <Anti-Tedd> Does that involve me buying anything, LiENUS
[12:39] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, what wireless access point are you using?
[12:40] <norty> how do i copy a file from my hd to an ipod when the file has an undefined character in it?
[12:40] <Anti-Tedd> LiENUS, dumb that down for me? I'm a fool.
[12:40] <mamzers555> hello, some people from france here?
[12:40] <LjL> RPO: then boot into recovery mode, you can select it from the grub boot menu. i can never remember whether it asks for a password or not... if it does, anyway, you can just edit the kernel command line and add "init=/bin/sh", to go straight into a root shell
[12:40] <LjL> !bootoptions > RPO    (RPO, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:40] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, ... i did...
[12:40] <RPO> LjL, sorry, I was typing SU and it worked with SUDO, my bad
[12:40] <LjL> !fr > mamzers555    (mamzers555, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:40] <Anti-Tedd> A router?
[12:40] <Anti-Tedd> Hell.
[12:40] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, yes router!
[12:40] <LjL> RPO: ok. though remember, sudo is quite different from sudo
[12:40] <tom__> LjL: isn't that a security breach?
[12:40] <Anti-Tedd> It's a Linksys.
[12:40] <LjL> tom__: what?
[12:40] <Anti-Tedd> You need the exact model?
[12:40] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, yeah
[12:41] <Anti-Tedd> Gimme a sec
[12:41] <tom__> LjL: going straight to a root shell from grub sans password?
[12:41] <LjL> tom__: uh... no
[12:41] <LjL> tom__: if you have physical access to the computer, you can *always* get in, one way or another.
[12:41] <LjL> tom__: at worst, you have to use a live CD.
[12:41] <tom__> LjL: yeah i suppose.
[12:41] <Anti-Tedd> LiENUS, Linksys WRK54G
[12:41] <billybob> LjL: at worst, you mount the drive in anotehr system ;)
[12:42] <LjL> billybob: if you can open the case, sure.
[12:42] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, then yes to move to a you would need to buy something
[12:42] <simple_x> (beryl-manager:4933): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[12:42] <Anti-Tedd> I'll pass then.
[12:42] <simple_x> Help
[12:42] <simple_x> (beryl-manager:4933): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[12:42] <Anti-Tedd> I'll just siwtch to another frequency
[12:42] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd,  your best solution might be to do updates while plugged directly into the router using ethernet
[12:42] <Anti-Tedd> Right now I'm on 11
[12:42] <ihmSelbst> hi
[12:42] <lasse_> Hi, im having a problem with Firefox and file type associations. I want to change the program that by defaults open the .m3u playlist files. Ive asked over at #firefox, they tell me it might be a ubuntu thing. Anyone know anything about that kind of thing?
[12:42] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, try channel 1, it reachers a little bit further
[12:43] <Anti-Tedd> LiENUS, thanks
[12:43] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd, by a bit further i mean half a foot at most...
[12:43] <LiENUS> Anti-Tedd,  but i find it to be more stable most of the time...
[12:43] <Rhugan> could someone help me, i've turned off the X Server using the Services option under Administration and I dont know how to turn it back on in the shell
[12:43] <billybob> LiENUS: unless you have an 21db gain andrew ;)
[12:44] <linxeh> Rhugan: you can manually start it wit something like /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:44] <LiENUS> billybob, heh since he didnt know the term wap i'd be surprised if he had one...
[12:44] <LiENUS> billybob, thats disturbing
[12:44] <CupCakeMaster> im installing the driver for my nvidia videocard and while im in termianl i add thissudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and they ask me for a password
[12:44] <CupCakeMaster> and its not mine
[12:44] <billybob> LiENUS: whats worse, that or now using WimX at 10 miles out ? ;)
[12:44] <Rhugan> linxeh: ok thanks i'll try that
[12:44] <billybob> WiMax*
[12:44] <iceman> hi
[12:44] <LiENUS> billybob, what if you were looking at porn on that internet and a kid walked between you and the antenna and the porn was beamed through his brain?
[12:44] <DARKGuy> HAHA
[12:44] <billybob> lmao
[12:44] <DARKGuy> xD
[12:44] <billybob> poor kid ;)
[12:45] <patricio> no puedo intalar el msn
[12:45] <patricio> como lo ago ???
[12:45] <DARKGuy> !es
[12:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:45] <billybob> no habla espanol, englese por favor
[12:46] <hairulfr> LiENUS: Haha,
[12:46] <patricio> a por que no
[12:46] <toM|vendettA> hi i was wondering if it was possible to run open gl games in like... a seperate xserver so that i could get a better framerate, i know there was a tutorial on how to do it but i dont know what to search for
[12:46] <CupCakeMaster> any help
[12:46] <ihmSelbst> i want download files from a http-server, but when i use "wegt -r <url>" i get only the files in the maindirectory. i need the files in the deeper directorys too. what can i do?
[12:46] <tom__> paticicio: ignore them. try #ubuntu-es
[12:46] <DARKGuy> este es un canal para hablar en ingles. Para espaol es #ubuntu-es
[12:46] <patricio> shuu
[12:46] <DARKGuy> lo siento :P
[12:46] <patricio> ok
[12:46] <pollywog> where is the tcpwrappers package?
[12:46] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, Its gotta be your password
[12:47] <flyinghippo> Hello.
[12:47] <billybob> well, atleast someone speaks spanish better than me, thats god :)
[12:47] <billybob> good even
[12:47] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, try first to do " sudo ls " then do the " sudo nvidia<somecommandidontremember> and check if it still asks you for a password
[12:48] <DARKGuy> billybob: I'm a native Spanish speaker, that's why ;). Yours not too bad though ^^
[12:48] <RPO> LjL: Ok, so I have the partition information now.  So, someone told me you can run the gnome backup utility and backup the boot sector & partition table because Windows will probably overwrite it, but he didn't know the exact name.
[12:48] <CupCakeMaster> k
[12:48] <flyinghippo> I have successfully installed Ubuntu onto my Dell XPS, however, the screen - Just got it fixed, never mind.  :\
[12:48] <billybob> DARKGuy: i dont spell so well, although i can speak it 'ok'
[12:48] <DARKGuy> billybob: yeah, just noticed :)
[12:49] <LjL> RPO: you're out of my realm, i don't know those GNOME applications at all. don't be *too* anxious about it anyway, you should always be able to restore the Ubuntu boot sector via the live CD in any event
[12:49] <billybob> DARKGuy: if yo uwant to hear somethign funny, you should hear me try to speak spanish, and i toss in the odd german word . . .
[12:49] <lasse_> RPO, can you clarify what you want to do?
[12:49] <billybob> (not on purpose either)
[12:50] <lasse_> RPO, are you gonna install windows, then restore the grub boot loader?
[12:50] <cheeseboy16> how u install free-basic?
[12:50] <CupCakeMaster> 'sudo ls nvidia-glx-config enabel" still ask me for a pass and its not my pass
[12:51] <ezenu> In Firefox, when clicking on a file link, I have the setting saved to open it automatically with a program, however, the location of that program changed. Now I get an error message, which says I should fix it in preferences, yet this file type is not listed under "Manage" file types. Any ideas?
[12:51] <pollywog> is there a restricted-modules source package?  maybe I need that for nvidia to work in a custom kernel
[12:51] <DARKGuy> billybob: hehe, someday sure ^^
[12:51] <DARKGuy> CupCakeMaster: It must be the root password, not your use's password
[12:51] <DARKGuy> *user's
[12:51] <BigMac> LjL:omg there are so many options i have to pick form>.< I don't even understand half of them
[12:51] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, you misunderstood. Try to do the "sudo ls" . It should ask you for a password, check if this is your password?
[12:51] <LjL> BigMac: i told you - just press Enter.
[12:51] <pollywog> is LjL a bot?
[12:51] <LjL> BigMac: the important one is the selection of the graphics driver (VESA)
[12:51] <LjL> pollywog: ytes
[12:52] <DARKGuy> and he spells "yes" with a t in between :p
[12:52] <CupCakeMaster> said command not found for "sudo is:
[12:52] <CupCakeMaster> *sudo is"
[12:52] <pollywog> I didn't ask if he was a smart bot ;)
[12:52] <DARKGuy> Oh, but he is smart indeed :D
[12:52] <ihmSelbst> i want download files from a http-server, but when i use "wegt -r <url>" i get only the files in the maindirectory. i need the files in the deeper directorys too. what can i do?
[12:52] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster,    the only thing your gonna type is       sudo ls     . forget the "-marks
[12:52] <RPO> LjL, I'm trying to save to floppy but it says you don't have permissions (I'm admin), how to fix?
[12:52] <BigMac> LjL: I put Ati because I have an ati card.....
[12:52] <pollywog> is there a restricted-modules source package?  maybe I need that for nvidia to work in a custom kernel
[12:52] <CupCakeMaster> i know
[12:53] <LjL> ihmSelbst: possibly the site has a robots.txt files that tells webcrawlers (such as wget in recursive mode) to leave it alone
[12:53] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, then try     sudo touch testfile.txt
[12:53] <LjL> RPO: what program are you doing this in?
[12:53] <BigMac> LjL:Is that bad
[12:54] <CupCakeMaster> i did and didnt get antyhign
[12:54] <pic__> heya
[12:55] <dreamerdude> Anyone got source code for a simple C++ keylogger? all i can find is C
[12:55] <tom__> bigmac: just use the default
[12:55] <kmu> Is it true that by using Feisty I will have a better chance of having support for new hardware?
[12:55] <tom__> bigmac: do it again and choose the default
[12:55] <CupCakeMaster> this is pissing me off
[12:55] <notgod> dreamerdude: why do you need C++ ?
[12:55] <dreamerdude> cos thats all i know :P
[12:55] <tom__> dreamerdude: can i ask why you want a keylogger?
[12:55] <dreamerdude> its for learning
[12:56] <LjL> BigMac: no, shouldn't be, since "ati" means you'll use the open-source drivers rather than the (currently broken, it seems) binary drivers
[12:56] <BigMac> Dude answer me I am sitting here with my thumb in my butt and a brand new latop that won't even boot
[12:56] <BigMac> ok
[12:56] <LjL> BigMac: if it still doesn't work, however, try with VESA
[12:56] <tom__> bigmac: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:56] <BigMac> Oh crraaap
[12:56] <tom__> instead of putting ati where you did last time
[12:56] <RPO> LjL, Gnome - Computer - Floppy
[12:56] <LjL> BigMac: err, i'm not at your exclusive service, you know, i'm in a couple of other channels and doing other stuff as well
[12:56] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, hmm it seems like you have root permissions if it didnt say anything with sudo touch testfile.txt
[12:56] <tom__> use the default
[12:57] <LjL> tom__: the default will be the previous choice... and it won't work
[12:57] <BigMac> tom_ that is the command I entered bfore
[12:57] <BigMac> the are way to many options
[12:57] <RPO> LjL, I'm guessing it's mounted RO and not RW, but I don't know how to change this and make it stay changed
[12:57] <BigMac> why isn't there a write default
[12:57] <CupCakeMaster> any suggestions
[12:57] <LjL> RPO: i dunno... i guess just launch that application using gksudo. if you don't know what the filename for it is, right click on the menu and fire up the menu editor, and see what the command name is
[12:57] <BigMac> My battery died now I have to star overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:57] <LjL> RPO: sudo mount /media/floppy0 -o remount,rw
[12:57] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, try writing    sudo su     then write the command  nvidia-glx-config enable    without any sudo in front
[12:58] <LjL> BigMac: there ARE defaults. what i told you is to FOLLOW the defaults, EXCEPT for the part where it asks about the driver (that is, the first part). just press Enter at the other questions!
[12:59] <LjL> lasse_: why not sudo -i ;-)
[12:59] <dreamerdude> you dont wanna log in as root
[12:59] <RPO> LjL, "You must specify a file system type"  (FAT?)
[12:59] <dreamerdude> bad habbit
[12:59] <lasse_> LjL; because I dont have so much experience with sudo and didnt know  it :D
[12:59] <LjL> RPO: hm, no "vfat", but if it asks that, i guess it means it was never mounted - read only or not read only
[01:00] <LjL> RPO, anyway, if what you're trying to do is write the HD's boot sector to the FD's *boot sector*, you probably *don't* want to have the FD mounted
[01:00] <andre> LJL:  the ubuntu screensaver, When the screen goes dark, is what screws up ubuntu for me... ever heard of that?
[01:00] <BigMac> LjL so just select ati and hit ente for everything else?
[01:00] <LjL> RPO: if, instead, you're just trying to dump the HD's boot sector on a *file* on the FD, that's another matter
[01:00] <RPO> LjL, it's mounted because I can read the files on the floppy.
[01:00] <ljlolel> So, i'm using the ubuntu.exe on my laptop --- why does the kernel have to be the same as of the installer?
[01:00] <LjL> andre: no, i'll check the bug reports. how exactly does it mess up?
[01:00] <cntb>  I received a tif from scan in gmail and it fails to present on ubuntu is it some proprietray restricted issu here?from windows I see same tif from gmail perfectly
[01:01] <CupCakeMaster> got an error of : must be root or use sudo
[01:01] <andre> LjL:  if in ubuntu already, progs won't load
[01:01] <RPO> LjL, no, I'm just trying to make it work at this point and then I'll have to figure out how to backup the paritition table with GNOME backup (whatever that is).
[01:01] <LjL> RPO: alrighty, then try the same command but with "floppy" instead of "floppy0", and if it still fails, "sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy0 -o remount,rw"
[01:01] <cntb> LjL ^^^ ideas about tif viewing?
[01:01] <andre> LjL: if at login,  X will fail to login
[01:01] <andre> LjL: ie X will give me an error
[01:01] <holycow> ljlolel, ubuntu.exe? is that the win installer of ubunut?
[01:02] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, type   whoami  and tell me what you get
[01:02] <ljlolel> holycow: yes, that's the windows installer for ubuntu -- it uses grldr and grub4dos
[01:02] <CupCakeMaster> "cupcake"
[01:02] <LjL> cntb: TIFF is a perfectly supported format... not sure about how well GNOME programs handle it, but i guess they should normally handle it quite well. perhaps save it and open it in the GIMP
[01:02] <cntb> ubuntu.exe not ready
[01:02] <holycow> ljlolel, where do y ou get that error?
[01:02] <holycow> nor is it really supported here, but i'm curious
[01:02] <cntb> LjL did not work
[01:03] <AWOSDev> I don't care how unstable it is, I *need* w32codecs on my 64-bit system
[01:03] <Wimpog> GUYS, I installed Windows on my primary HDD and linux on my secondary HDD. I don't see grub menu, and Windows starts everytime I start the computer. Can I switch HDDs? That is make the one with Linux primary and with windows secondary???
[01:03] <LjL> cntb: like, GIMP gives an error? well if so i suppose the image is corrupted
[01:03] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, ok, then you still arent root.   then you have to  try the  sudo su  again. Type your password once when it asks you. Does it then ask you for a password again, or doesnt it say anyting?
[01:03] <ljlolel> well, i get it to work normally -- but if I edit menu.lst and try to boot to a .20- kernel instead of a  .17- kernel, it will fail ----- it says in the readme that you have to have the same kernel as the installer
[01:03] <AWOSDev> Wimpog yes, flip the cables so that the first one is second
[01:03] <cntb> will you permit me to send that 531k tif so you try to see it? nothing confidential - PCprices scanned
[01:03] <holycow> Wimpog, well you didn'g install grub on the bootsector of the primary hd
[01:03] <AWOSDev> Wimpog this will work assuming your mobo is set for cable select
[01:04] <holycow> Wimpog, you have a lot of options
[01:04] <holycow> you can get removeable trays and swap drives, i do that
[01:04] <Wimpog> GUYS, thank you for quick responce
[01:04] <BigMac> alright it has been on the loading wheel fo about 5 - 10 minutes
[01:04] <LjL> andre, there are quite a few bug reports that might or might not be relevant... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=screensaver+login&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[01:04] <CupCakeMaster> it says "password:" and does not allow me to write anything only if i click enter and move to the next row
[01:04] <AWOSDev> Is there any way of gettting w32codecs on my AMD64 system?
[01:04] <holycow> you can get a usb tray, install ubuntu on one drive then put it in the usb tray and boot off of that
[01:04] <LjL> eew i always forgot how long those URLs are =)
[01:04] <hitmanWilly> cntb: do you have libtiff4 installed?
[01:04] <AWOSDev> LjL hehe
[01:04] <Wimpog> My intention was to separate Windows and Linux (enemies for ever) as much as I could, so that nothing of the other OS is on another HDD
[01:04] <ljlolel> AWOSDev: there are ways to run them in a chrooted way-- search google
[01:04] <cntb> LjL I mamaged to see same maiol with TIFF attached on a Windows machine
[01:05] <holycow> or you can even install grub on the main bootsector of the windows hd ... but i would avoid that considering your question implies your not familiar with the process thoroughly
[01:05] <AWOSDev> ljlolel would it be easier, or even possible, to run qemu with XP inside?
[01:05] <Wimpog> I am just curios, will I do any damage to my system if I switch places HDDs
[01:05] <LjL> cntb: sure, mail it to ljlbox@tiscali.it
[01:05] <AWOSDev> Wimpog nope
[01:05] <cntb> hitmanWilly: ty will check now
[01:05] <LjL> array: using IRC as root is not a good idea
[01:05] <array> hi
[01:05] <ljlolel> AWOSDev: I do that now (vmware), but I'd prefer to run linux straight
[01:05] <cntb> tyvm LjL
[01:05] <AWOSDev> LjL you live in Italy!?  wow my family wants to move there
[01:05] <holycow> Wimpog, indeed, thats the best method, the options i provided will let you do whateve ryou need
[01:05] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, it does allow you to type everything, but it doesnt show the letters. So when you type your password it wont show, just type it and press enter
[01:05] <LjL> AWOSDev: yep
[01:05] <AWOSDev> LjL cool
[01:05] <AWOSDev> ljlolel okay thanks.
[01:05] <AWOSDev> bye!
[01:05] <ljlolel> Here:
[01:05] <ljlolel> * """You have to use an ISO built on the same kernel of the installer, at the moment this means 2.6.20-6-generic kernel, which is found in Herd3 ISOs
[01:05] <ljlolel> ""
[01:05] <array> hi LjL, i know but I can see my ntfs hd only by root
[01:06] <Wimpog> AWOSDev: thanks. I'm gonna do that right now. I will still be able to to into windows, right??
[01:06] <ljlolel> from the tarball here: http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/
[01:06] <RPO> LjL, Usage...
[01:06] <ljlolel> under Download
[01:06] <LjL> array: err, and how does that imply that you should use *IRC* as root? =)   you can do one thing as root and another thing as a normal user
[01:06] <LjL> !sudo | array
[01:06] <ubotu> array: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:06] <array> or maybe you or someone could help me :)
[01:06] <Wimpog> holycow: I am sorry, but I do not quite understand your options
[01:06] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, this is what it should look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5495/
[01:06] <LjL> array: besides, you can mount NTFS so that your own user can read it
[01:06] <holycow> Wimpog, then ask
[01:06] <LjL> !ntfs > array    (array, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:06] <array> yes, I tried sudo mount but then I can access to files only from terminal
[01:07] <LjL> RPO, what?
[01:07] <RPO> LjL, the syntax appears to be wrong
[01:07] <Wimpog> holycow: could you explain this USB tray issue
[01:07] <LjL> array: no. you can do "gksudo nautilus" (using Alt+F2) and see them from the file browser. *logging in as root in X is a completely terrible idea* (and so is enabling the root account to start with, but anyway)
[01:07] <holycow> well you can buy what is called a usb tray, its an external usb case you put  your hard drive into
[01:07] <holycow> plug in the power and plug it into your usb por
[01:07] <holycow> t
[01:07] <CupCakeMaster> now it says i never instald it WTF
[01:08] <holycow> if you have a newer mobo you should be able to tell it to boot from the usb device in the bios
[01:08] <CupCakeMaster> AAAAAh
[01:08] <LjL> array: disable the root account as the !sudo page instructs, then if you like follow the !ntfs page to know how to mount your NTFS partition so that your user can read it -- or use gksudo nautilus
[01:08] <kev_b> can anyone help with a problem i am having. User switching seems to have stopped working. Running 'gdmflexiserver' fails to start a new virtual console. I don't know how to diagnose or debug..
[01:08] <LjL> RPO: i'll check
[01:08] <cntb> sent to ljlbox  Ljl now will sudo apt=cache search that libtiff4 hitmanWilly pointed to
[01:08] <holycow> alternatively you can buy a removable tray that goes in the same slot as your cdrom (or underneath).  you put your hd into the trays, when you reboot you just swap trays for the os that you want to run
[01:08] <Wimpog> holycow: Oh, I see. Well, I want to do something now, and I don't have usb tray right now. That's why I was asking if the method of switching roles of two HDDs would work
[01:08] <array> !ntfs
[01:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:08] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, I recommend you to follow a guide. ill give you a link for a good guide on how to install nvidia drivers
[01:09] <holycow> Wimpog, you will probably haveto install grub on the bootsector of the linux hd, but yes it will work
[01:09] <LjL> RPO: ah, wait, you probably need to specify the device when you specify the filesystem type... try "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 -o remount,rw"
[01:09] <CupCakeMaster> thank you s00 much lasse you have been so much help
[01:09] <holycow> Wimpog, actually you will haveto probably reinstall linux if you swap the cables, linux kernel doesn' tlike that
[01:09] <holycow> you might want to a:
[01:09] <kev_b> p.s. i've been asking around for a week now so if anyone has a clue i'd really appreciate it
[01:09] <Wimpog> holycow: Here how it is now: Windows is installed on primary HDD, Linux is installed on secondary HDD
[01:09] <holycow> swap the ide / sata cables and reinstall linux on it
[01:10] <array> thank you very much LjL, just following the guide and then come back in user mode :)
[01:10] <RPO> LjL, device not mounted already, or bad option
[01:10] <Wimpog> holycow: that's why Windows always boots and I don't even see grub menu
[01:10] <holycow> or b: unplug the windows hd and just install grub on the remianing hd so that can boot ... because you already installed linux on that particular ide channel you haveto keep it there
[01:10] <lasse_> CupCakeMaster, my pleasure, now try this guide and just ask if something isnt clear to you http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[01:10] <LjL> RPO: uhm, but still you say you have it mounted... please type "mount" and give me the line that talks about the floppy
[01:10] <hairulfr> NN All
[01:10] <holycow> Wimpog, its because the windows bootloader is on the first hd.  you bios checks your ide channels one by one for booteable devices.  when it finds the first bootloader on the first hd it stops and just uses that info
[01:11] <RPO> LjL, /dev/sdc on /media/floppy-1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[01:11] <Wimpog> holycow: GRUB is already installed, the problem is it is installed on secondary HDD, where the entire Linux is installed
[01:11] <LiENUS> im cold
[01:11] <holycow> Wimpog, thus you don't have grub installed on that hd, windows bootloaders have this crazy notion that only windows will ever be installed on a pc
[01:11] <LjL> RPO: eeerg? /dev/sdc? /media/floppy-1 with a hyphen? what sort of floppy do you have? :o)
[01:11] <LiENUS> holycow,  not true
[01:11] <LiENUS> holycow,  theres a way to edit boot.ini and have linux in it
[01:11] <RPO> LjL, USB
[01:11] <ljlolel> So, why does ubuntu.exe think that the kernel of the linux in the file has to be the same as that of the installer?
[01:12] <holycow> Wimpog, and you made sure you added the right windows option to your /boot/grub/menu.lst file ?
[01:12] <lasse_> LiENUS, that is really much harder than getting grub to work
[01:12] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: most bioses will let you pick the HDD to boot from
[01:12] <holycow> its weird that it wasn't automatically done for you
[01:12] <LiENUS> lasse_, not really
[01:12] <LjL> RPO, maybe that GNOME utility is looking for the floppy in some more, uhm, normal place, such as /media/floppy and/or /dev/fd0. if you type "ls /media/floppy", do you see the floppy contents?
[01:12] <Wimpog> holycow: Yeah, windows is in my menu.lst
[01:12] <LiENUS> http://www.tprthai.net/bootmgr.htm
[01:12] <holycow> i would even just reinstall as it sounds easier than learning how to do it manually righ tnow
[01:12] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: you could use the linux drive as default and use GRUB to boot win
[01:12] <Wimpog> at least during installation it added it
[01:12] <esoxlucius> there is someone that could help me with an uninstall of xgl?
[01:12] <holycow> Wimpog, okay cool, so do you get a chance to select linux at the beginning?
[01:12] <lasse_> LiENUS, i know i didnt get it, but maybe i where an idiot. that happens
[01:12] <holycow> grub will boot into the first item in tha tlist
[01:12] <Wimpog> holycow: no, because I don't even see grub
[01:13] <holycow> Wimpog, then its not installed
[01:13] <holycow> you might think it is
[01:13] <RPO> LjL, I tried it with floppy1 instead of Floppy0 but same error
[01:13] <holycow> BUT ITS NOT installed on the MAIN HD
[01:13] <holycow> right?
[01:13] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: that's what I want to do, but the question is is it 'legal' to do that?
[01:13] <LjL> cntb: what's the email subject? looks like it's been trapped by the spam filter :P
[01:13] <holycow> bios looks at the hd, it sees the windows bootlaoder and just uses that
[01:13] <holycow> why don't you just unplug the windows hd and just reboot
[01:13] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: why not?
[01:13] <Wimpog> holycow: IT is installed, I don't see it ONLY because Linux AND grub are installed on secondary HDD
[01:13] <holycow> see if the  bootloader on the linux hd actually points to the right place
[01:13] <LjL> cntb: oh wait, nevermind... i've got a 60kb limit now that i think of it, sorry. i'll give you another address in a PM
[01:13] <esoxlucius> There is someone that could help me with an uninstall of XGL???
[01:13] <holycow> Wimpog, its NOT installed on the main hd, you said it doesn't see it
[01:14] <holycow> it might be installed on the second hd
[01:14] <lasse_> esoxlucius, sure, whats the problem?
[01:14] <Wimpog> holycow: exactly
[01:14] <cntb> no LjL it is hebrew ignore it look at attachment
[01:14] <holycow> Wimpog, so why are you making this hard?
[01:14] <Wimpog> holycow: SO I want to flip HDDs
[01:14] <holycow> Wimpog, unplug the windows hd and reboot
[01:14] <RPO> LjL, did you notice it says it's mounted RW already?
[01:14] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: win's license talks about virtualization, not actual installs
[01:14] <holycow> just be quiet for a second and just try it :)
[01:14] <cntb> OK LjL
[01:14] <holycow> it will give you enough information to furtehr move down the logic chain to debug this
[01:15] <Wimpog> holycow: you mean I have to unplug everytime I want to boot Linux?
[01:15] <holycow> i told you already why you CAN'T flip hds
[01:15] <dsquare> wget http://ubuntu.compiz.net/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[01:15] <dsquare> --16:14:58--  http://ubuntu.compiz.net/quinn.key.asc
[01:15] <dsquare>            => `-'
[01:15] <dsquare> Resolving ubuntu.compiz.net... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
[01:15] <dsquare> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[01:15] <dsquare> del@del-desktop:~$
[01:15] <holycow> the kernel wont like bieng moved from ide2 to ide1
[01:15] <holycow> Wimpog, well thats how you set it up
[01:15] <RPO> LjL, exact error is "You do not have permissions to write to this folder"
[01:15] <kev_b> can anyone help with a problem i am having. User switching seems to have stopped working. Running 'gdmflexiserver' fails to start a new virtual console. I don't know how to diagnose or debug..
[01:15] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[01:15] <thesis> does anyone here use kiba-dock
[01:15] <cntb> hitmanWilly: libtiff4 is already the newest version.
[01:15] <lasse_> dsquaure > pastebin
[01:15] <holycow> Wimpog, i don't think you fully realize the significance of what i'm telling you  tho
[01:15] <dsquare> why am i getting an error instead of the repository please?
[01:15] <dsquare> ty lasse_.
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> cntb: hmmmm
[01:15] <wubrgamer> how do i convert mp4 to mp3 ??????
[01:15] <wubrgamer> join ##linux
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> cntb: try the dev lib
[01:16] <LjL> RPO: indeed, floppies are mounted r/w normally, it would have been weird if it weren't... but anyway, what about "ls /media/floppy", with no digits?
[01:16] <wubrgamer> any ideas ?
[01:16] <andre> LJL:tx for the bug reports
[01:16] <hitmanWilly> cntb: ive had crazier things work
[01:16] <Wimpog> holycow: I think I confused you, so, let me tell you my idea. Linux and grub are installed on secondary HDD. I want to make Linux's HDD primary and Windows' HDD secondary by flipping cables. THEN I would be able to see GRUB's menu and choose whatever I want - Linux and Windows. MY QUESTION IS - WILL THAT WORK???
[01:17] <holycow> no you didn't confuse me
[01:17] <holycow> you don't understand what i'm telling you
[01:17] <holycow> lol
[01:17] <Wimpog> ok, then I'm confused
[01:17] <holycow> you can't flip them
[01:17] <pollywog> Winpog why not just do a dual boot?
[01:17] <holycow> you installed the system while linux was on the other ide channel
[01:17] <DARKGuy> he looks like he's dualbooting with grub
[01:17] <RPO> LjL, nope, but ls /media/floppy-1 works, I just can't save anything to the blank formatted UN-write protected floppy
[01:17] <wubrgamer> mp4 to mp3 eh eh ? eh eh ?
[01:17] <holycow> Wimpog, why don't you just swap and see for your self
[01:17] <hitmanWilly> Winpog: u can change the boot order in the bios
[01:17] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: hitmanWilly said I can do that
[01:17] <holycow> it should freeze on bootup or not boot at all
[01:18] <hitmanWilly> Winpog: dont swap cables. that'll confuse the kernel
[01:18] <Wimpog> ok I'll get back to you later, I'm going to try this...
[01:18] <holycow> Wimpog, but dude, just try it
[01:18] <holycow> damn why are we answering the same questio n10 time
[01:18] <holycow> i iexplained why it wont work, tryin git wont hurt anything
[01:18] <holycow> its simple really
[01:19] <holycow> worst case scenario you swap drives and reinstall
[01:19] <hitmanWilly> yup
[01:19] <LjL> RPO: "floppy-1" isn't a normal name for a floppy in Ubuntu, so i guess the permissions are all set incorrectly... either use sudo/gksudo for everything, or try to fix that. but i don't know where to start looking for the problem
[01:19] <LiENUS> holycow, why not show him how to use boot.ini to boot linux
[01:19] <Zuph_> I have a USB Disk formatted FAT.  Yesterday it was working fine.  Today, though, a directory I was accessing when I turned my computer off yesterday is corrupt, and the disk will only mount as read-only.  What gives?
[01:19] <holycow> LiENUS, are you insane?
[01:19] <holycow> why would i ever help anyone with windows?
[01:19] <LiENUS> hollywoodstar, yes actually, why do you ask?
[01:20] <LiENUS> err holycow yes actually, why do you ask?
[01:20] <holycow> lol
[01:20] <lasse_> Zuph_, do you know your way around in a terminal?
[01:20] <holycow> :)
[01:20] <RPO> LjL, SUDO mv S* /media/floppy-1 also reports RO file system
[01:20] <Zuph_> lasse_: more or less
[01:20] <hitmanWilly> LiENUS: cause its 10x easier from GRUB
[01:20] <LiENUS> hitmanWilly, iyfssb
[01:20] <Zuph_> I've tried mounting it manually, umask=000, to no availi.
[01:21] <LiENUS> LjL, maybe mrename should be used?
[01:21] <lasse_> Zuph_, then try   cd /where/your/usbidsk/ismounted   (usally somwhere in /media or /mnt ). use the ls command to see what is in the folder you are in
[01:21] <LjL> LiENUS: i don't know what mrename is
[01:21] <kev_b> Can anyone tell me why running "gdmflexiserver" might result in nothing happening and no errors?
[01:21] <frogzoo> LiENUS: grub is also 10x more powerful than boot.ini
[01:21] <lasse_> Zuph_, tell me when you are there
[01:21] <LiENUS> LjL, renames dos disks...
[01:21] <zorba64> Zuph_, running fsck.vfat or fsck.msdos find any errors?
[01:21] <LiENUS> frogzoo, and grub can be loaded from boot.ini
[01:21] <LiENUS> frogzoo, whats yer point?
[01:22] <megafauna> Hi, can someone help me please with installing realplayer 10?
[01:22] <LjL> LiENUS: but it's not a label problem, it's actually the mountpoint that's weird
[01:22] <kev_b> If run with -d for debug it just stops at a certain point...
[01:22] <frogzoo> LiENUS: grub can connect to a serial port - so you can reboot remotely from bare metal
[01:22] <kev_b> Sending command: 'FLEXI_XSERVER Standard'
[01:22] <kev_b> and then does nothing
[01:22] <LiENUS> frogzoo,  i doubt he wants that functionality
[01:22] <LiENUS> LjL, gnome will pick floppy-1 or something like that if the disk is unnamed...
[01:22] <lasse_> megafauna, check this out: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29
[01:22] <cntb> hitmanWilly: try dev lib? dont get tit still tif viewing issue
[01:22] <Zuph_> lasse_: what do you mean "What is in the folder you are in"?  It's mounted to /media/usbdisk, and every folder except that one is fine.  The rest of the directory structure is A-OK.
[01:23] <frogzoo> LiENUS: but why learn an inferior tool? that's my point
[01:23] <LiENUS> frogzoo, no learn
 Thanks!
[01:23] <LiENUS> frogzoo, use
[01:23] <LiENUS> theres a difference
[01:23] <lasse_> Zuph_, ok. so now you are in /media/usbdisk  ?
[01:23] <LycoLoc1> hi all - I'm using a live CD to try to fix a problem I've been having - how would I go about running fsck on my linux partition, which is hdb2?
[01:23] <Wimpog> OK GUYS, thanks for all your help. It is even easier that I thougth. I followed hitmanWilly's advice and changed the boot order of HDDs in BIOS. Now I can see GRUB's menu and choose which OS to boot!!! Wicked Cool
[01:23] <Zuph_> lasse_: yes
[01:24] <Dial_tone> I can't find a definitive answer of whether gnomebaker burns dual layer...anyone know?
[01:24] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: nice, huh?
[01:24] <lasse_> Zuph_, Great! Now try to type   sudo touch testfile.txt
[01:24] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: yes. Sorry Guys for some stupid questions, I am not an expert...
[01:24] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: experience from my own dual boot days
[01:24] <zorba64> LycoLoc1, ext3 file system - sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/hdb2
[01:24] <Zuph_> lasse_: cannot touch 'testfile.txt': Read-only file system.
[01:24] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: Wicked cool.
[01:24] <lasse_> Zuph_, ah damn :)
[01:25] <LycoLoc1> zorba64: thanks :-)
[01:25] <zorba64> s'ok
[01:25] <|ADZ|> where can I find printer drivers?
[01:25] <|ADZ|> for Ubuntu
[01:25] <LycoLoc1> zorba64: it immediately comes back clean...which doesn't seem right
[01:25] <zorba64> Zuph_, have you checked it for file system errors?
[01:25] <kev_b> I will paypal $5 to anyone to provides information on my problem which leads to either filing a bug or fixing it : )
[01:25] <LycoLoc1> shouldn't it be doing an actual scan?
[01:25] <lasse_> Zuph_, how about trying   sudo chmod 777 -R /media/usbdisk  ?
[01:25] <frogzoo> LiENUS: if people want a doze way of doing things, they should -> #windows  solutions recommended here need to be able to be supported by the community
[01:25] <kev_b> its not a lot but its more than anyone else is paying! : )
[01:25] <Zuph_> zorba64: trying that now.
[01:25] <lasse_> Zuph_, then the touch testfile.txt
[01:26] <LiENUS> frogzoo, theres no reason for him not to use boot.ini
[01:26] <LiENUS> frogzoo, does he have the source code to his bios?
[01:26] <LiENUS> frogzoo, does the community support his bios?
[01:26] <zorba64> LycoLoc1, then filesystem errors may not be the prob
[01:26] <lasse_> zorba64, would he only get read permissions if the file system is corrupt?
[01:26] <frogzoo> LiENUS: not yet :D
[01:26] <LycoLoc1> zorba64: alrighty, thanks
[01:26] <zorba64> lasse_, yeah...
[01:27] <LiENUS> frogzoo, so then why not use boot.ini?
[01:27] <lasse_> zorba64, huh
[01:27] <kurt_> hi
[01:27] <kev_b> $5 people... easy money maybe?
[01:27] <kurt_> here is my question
[01:27] <LiENUS> frogzoo, theres a project that aims to implement the windows boot loader in open source form
[01:27] <lasse_> hi kurt
[01:27] <kurt_> i tried to mount my windows partition
[01:27] <kurt_> here is what i did
[01:27] <shrndegruv> can someone help me get direct rendering working with open source ati drivers?
[01:27] <kurt_> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[01:28] <jrib> kev_b: I had a similar issue.  What video drivers are you using?
[01:28] <kurt_> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/windows -o ro,users
[01:28] <kurt_> it seems to mount just fine
[01:28] <kurt_> but when i try to ls
[01:28] <Zirg> Hey Gang. When I add new hardware to a (k)ubuntu machine, how do I set it up in the o/s itself? (added a soundblaster and don't have audio)
[01:28] <kurt_> or browse i dont have permissions
[01:28] <ImmortalD23> HELLO NEWYORK!
[01:28] <lasse_> kurt_,  would you please write everything in one line
[01:28] <ImmortalD23> oh wrong channel.. :)
[01:28] <kurt_> oh ok
[01:29] <kurt_> i tried to mount my windows partition  here is what i did
[01:29] <kev_b> jrib: radeon driver, but it was working a while ago and i'm not sure what i changed : )
[01:29] <ImmortalD23> hey kurt_, why is there so much windows haters online?
[01:29] <kurt_>  sudo mkdir /media/windows  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/windows -o ro,users
[01:29] <lasse_> kurt_, try the   sudo chmod -R 777 /media/windows  and then try to browse
[01:29] <zorba64> who has time for hate?
[01:29] <kurt_> aha!
[01:30] <kev_b> jrib: I was playing with my networking settings and I installed NetworkManager but I can't see the relevance
[01:30] <jrib> kev_b: well to troubleshoot, i would try with whatever the default ati drivers are, or is radeon the default for ati?
[01:30] <ImmortalD23> zorba64, its some complete geeks @ demonoid
[01:30] <jrib> kev_b: in my case the nvidia drivers would give me the same trouble you are having but 'nv' worked fine
[01:30] <zorba64> ah well...their problem if it gets to them that much
[01:31] <Zirg> When I add new hardware to a (k)ubuntu machine, how do I set it up in the o/s itself? (added a soundblaster and don't have audio)
[01:31] <kurt_> oh crap
[01:31] <ImmortalD23> yea man
[01:31] <kev_b> jrib: hmm, I think radeon is the only that will work with my card
[01:31] <lasse_> kurt_, whats up?
[01:31] <kurt_> how many of them are there????
[01:32] <lasse_> kurt_,  youre not making it any easier to help you right now :S
[01:32] <Zuph_> zorba64: it reports the directory that appeared to be corrupt was corrupt, but I can't seem to make any meaningful changes;  it still only mounts as read-only.
[01:32] <kurt_> it keeps saying though read-only file system
[01:32] <RPO> LjL: I found an article that had me change /etc/fstab, how do I instantiate it?
[01:32] <kurt_> why is it that ubuntu on my desktop mounting windows is a mouse click
[01:32] <Zirg> kurt_, yeah, that's what you TOLD it! (ro)
[01:32] <LjL> RPO: instawhat? :P
[01:32] <kurt_> but on my laptop its this hassle
[01:32] <hitmanWilly> LjL: mount -a
[01:33] <kurt_> and both are on the same version
[01:33] <zorba64> Zuph_, can you copy off it...may have to reformat if the filesystem is dodgy...backup time maybe?
[01:33] <RPO> kurt, you told it to mount read-only, and its alledgely unsafe to mount ntfs partitions rw under Linux
[01:33] <jrib> kev_b: does gdmflexiserver work if you use -lns ?
[01:33] <kurt_> yeah but so many....
[01:34] <kurt_> ntfs-3g is my nextguess
[01:34] <Zuph_> zorba64: aside from the fact that this drive is 4 times as large as any other drive in the house, it's BRAND spanking new and worked fine until last night, when I shut it off before I stopped accessing it.
[01:34] <kurt_> oh and by the way...
[01:34] <marty> I've got a .deb that broke, and now I can't use package management to any degree - it won't uninstall, either - how can I fix this?
[01:34] <kurt_> it says permission denied still
[01:34] <kev_b> jrib: no i can't get it to do anything, it's strange. It gets to "Sending command: 'FLEXI_XSERVER Standard'" and then it just waits
[01:35] <|ADZ|> does anybody know where I can find a driver for brother hl-2040
[01:35] <kev_b> jrib: but everything before that looks OK. It gets the server and authenticates.
[01:35] <lasse_> kurt_,  ok. try this one. it might seem like youre not using the 3g drivers so follow this guide. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[01:35] <Zirg> kurt_, show me the output of  ls -l /media/windows    please.
[01:35] <|ADZ|> on the brother website, there is noen
[01:35] <|ADZ|> *none
[01:35] <jrib> marty: maybe 'dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq packagename' but please make sure you udnerstand the ramifications before doing this (see man dpkg)
[01:35] <zorba64> Zuph_, ok...i see the prob...and it's full of stuff too huh?
[01:35] <Zuph_> yeah
[01:36] <justin_> can someone help me?
[01:36] <kurt_> ls: /media/windows: Permission denied
[01:36] <Flannel> lasse_, kurt_, ubuntuguide should be avoided.  The official wiki is a better place to look.
[01:36] <buu> So. I've screwed something up. I'm trying to run oowriter and I get a couple of pages of [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureSGIS
[01:36] <buu> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureTransformSGIS
[01:36] <Zuph_> zorba64: I'll gladly DELETE the one directory on the drive that's corrupt if it saves the rest of the drive, I just can't get it to mount non-read only
[01:36] <kurt_> but on my desktop it's just a click on the partition
[01:36] <buu> I'm pretty sure OO.o used to work, but I managed to screw something up.
[01:36] <Zirg> kurt_, show me the output of  ls -l /media/   please.   my bad.
[01:36] <marty> jrib, thanks, all fixed. :)
[01:37] <kurt_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     6 2007-02-11 07:04 cdrom -> cdrom0
[01:37] <kurt_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2007-02-11 07:04 cdrom0
[01:37] <kurt_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     7 2007-02-11 07:04 floppy -> floppy0
[01:37] <kurt_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 2007-02-11 07:04 floppy0
[01:37] <kurt_> dr-x------ 1 root root 12288 2007-02-01 10:43 windows
[01:37] <jrib> !paste | kurt_
[01:37] <ubotu> kurt_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <Zirg> ne1, added a sound card, it's not working, how do you trouble-shoot in ubuntu for new hardware??
[01:37] <lasse_> Flannel, ok, will use that one from now on. whats wrong with ubuntuguide.org btw?
[01:37] <jvai> oi ppl!
[01:37] <array> re
[01:37] <kurt_> if i knew what that meant jrib i might be able to figure this out myself
[01:37] <Flannel> lasse_: some of the stuff it recommends is unsafe
[01:38] <Zirg> kurt_, your permissions are borqd!  the dir is owned by root and you have no rights to it.
[01:38] <andre> hey LJL, ubuntuguide is down, and I'd like to play a dvd,  what packages do I need to install?
[01:38] <kurt_> chown ?
[01:38] <LjL> !dvd > andre    (andre, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:38] <Zirg> kurt_, unmount it, to begin with, change ownership, then mount it and lets see what we see.
[01:38] <kurt_> i dont mind it being owned by root
[01:38] <jrib> kurt_: it means you should visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste large amounts of text
[01:38] <LjL> andre: (ubuntuguide eeew :P)
[01:38] <lasse_> Flannel, like automatix and stuff?
[01:38] <juano__> hello everyone!
[01:39] <Flannel> lasse_: that's one of a few, yeah.  Some other items are just plain... well, upgrade-breaking.
[01:39] <lasse_> Flannel, im taking your word for it
[01:39] <Zirg> kurt_, sorry, just saw that. Yes,  chown   is what you want.
[01:39] <andre> LjL: hehe tx
[01:39] <megafauna> hi lasse_, can I get some more help with realplayer? I'm it's my first time using the terminal and it's not working for me
[01:39] <kurt_> do I chown to users or to kurt ?
[01:39] <Zirg> kurt_, man chown  to see the syntax and capabilities.
[01:40] <lasse_> megafauna, sure buddy. Give me one second to figure out how to do it, then ill help you with it
[01:40] <megafauna> thanks:-)
[01:40] <Zirg> kurt_, man chown    Bugs. :-)  Get used to looking at those MANual pages. It will save you a lot of grief later in life.
[01:40] <megafauna> i d/l'd it from the realplayer site, it's on my desktop
[01:41] <jrib> !realplayer | megafauna
[01:41] <ubotu> megafauna: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:41] <buu> exit
[01:41] <buu> Hah.
[01:41] <Shaezsche> what file do i edit to add extra parameters to my alsa configuration?
[01:41] <Shaezsche> such as the position fix 1 parameter
[01:41] <megafauna> ubotu: i'm looking now
[01:41] <ubotu> im: mail/news handling commands and Perl modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:148-5 (edgy), package size 310 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[01:41] <kurt_> ok i did chown kurt:users ....
[01:42] <Zirg> !hardware | zirg
[01:42] <lasse_> megafauna, you can do what ubotu tol you to do, or you can let me help you with it. Why dont you try with ubotu first, then ask if you dont get it, ok?
[01:42] <kev_b> lol megafauna, i don't think the bot cares
[01:42] <array> can I ask why aMSN works only if lanched from the root account logged? (otherwise it say i need TLS libraries but I've already got them)
[01:42] <GaiaX11> megafauna: ubotu is a bot :-)
[01:42] <megafauna> lasse_
[01:42] <megafauna> ok, didn't realise i was talking to a bot, suspected, but did not realise
[01:42] <kurt_> i did a chown to kurt:users
[01:42] <Zirg> kurt_, good, remount the partition.
[01:43] <kurt_> but when i did sudo mount .... it changed back to root root
[01:43] <kurt_> chown again?
[01:43] <Zirg> no
[01:43] <pollywog> I bumped into a manikin at JC Penney once and said "excuse me"
[01:43] <pollywog> so talking to a bot is okay
[01:43] <andre> LjL: tx dvd working :)
[01:43] <kurt_> no more chowns :(
[01:44] <shiv> knights crashing a lot. I am really depressed I guess linux has lot of bugs
[01:44] <megafauna> i had a friend who bumped into a manikin and apologised too, he never lived it down
[01:44] <hiptadahop> http://www.ozoneasylum.com/28921 << Job posting if you live in minnesota
[01:45] <Zirg> well, i guess i'm on my own with this hardware. (shrug)
[01:45] <Zirg> l8tr all
[01:45] <lasse_> shiv,  why dont you run it from a terminal and post the output it gives after a crash here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:45] <kurt_> i tried the chown again but it ignored me
[01:45] <megafauna> am d/l'ing the debian codecs now
[01:45] <shiv> lasse_: let me do that
[01:46] <Wimpog> GUYS, one more question. So, I have two HDDs, Linux resides on one of them, windows - on another. In Linux, command fdisk -l displays them as labeled hdb and hdc. I wonder why it does not start with hda.
[01:47] <megafauna> is reading database....
[01:48] <megafauna> appears to be finished. I'm going to try to stream some realplayer through firefox
[01:48] <zorba64> Wimpog, cableng channels...master slave thing?
[01:48] <tarelerulz> I am lost how do you find the xgl tarball or better yet deb ?
[01:48] <kurt_> wtf ???
[01:49] <Wimpog> zorba64: yeah one of them is master, one of them is slave, BUT they're labeled as hdb and hdc. Why not hda and hdb?
[01:49] <GaiaX11> shiv: You cannot say that linux has lots of bugs only because for knights. For me linux is all right. Everything running smoothly as ever  :-)
[01:49] <shiv> lasse_: Here u go : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5503/
[01:49] <kurt_> where the ???? did i get sda from ???
[01:49] <lasse_> megafauna, you could just try out typing about:plugins  in firefox and check if you see any Helix there
[01:49] <lasse_> shiv, looking
[01:49] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: something else must be calling itself hda
[01:49] <LjL> !xgl > tarelerulz    (tarelerulz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:49] <LjL> tarelerulz: there are howtos in the topic of that channel
[01:49] <shiv> GaiaX11: All I have done is trouble shooting whenever I have it installed in last 3 years :(
[01:49] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: what might it be? fdisk -l doesnot even show hda
[01:49] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: ive seen that from cd drives before
[01:50] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: so cd-rom can be hda???
[01:50] <lasse_> shiv, huh, i dont get anythingf from this output, ask someone else to check on it
[01:50] <array> LjL: I followed the webpage about mounting partition but it seems to work just for 1 partition (I have 2 ntfs partitions), I put two rows in /etc/fstab
[01:50] <lasse_> shiv, sorry
[01:50] <tarelerulz> The reason I ask for that is I don't have net for my home computer and I have no idea what to do cvs .
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: hda,b etc are ide hard drives, which is what most cd drives act like
[01:50] <shiv> lasse_: I have the backtrace here too http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5505/
[01:51] <LiENUS> !pastebin | array
[01:51] <ubotu> array: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:51] <billybob> Wimpog: hda is its location on the IDE / SATA connection
[01:51] <LiENUS> array, paste your /etc/fstab into pastebin
[01:51] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: ok... I see
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog, if you really want to know, try mounting it
[01:51] <kurt_> folks
[01:51] <kurt_> this is bull
[01:51] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly:  mount hda?
[01:51] <kurt_> as near as i can tell i done eberything right
[01:51] <megafauna> the w32codecs package is not working, firefox freezes when mplayer tries to stream
[01:51] <LiENUS> kurt_, are you a zombie?
[01:51] <megafauna> lol
[01:51] <kurt_> i wish i were
[01:51] <lasse_> i second that emotion
[01:51] <kurt_> then i wouldnt give a damn about this xxxxx
[01:52] <LiENUS> killall -9 kurt
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: probably your cd is configed as primary ide
[01:52] <kurt_> dont tempt me lienus
[01:52] <GaiaX11> shiv:  this is the linux way killing troubles and enhancing it  :-)
[01:52] <kurt_> i dont know the -9 option but killing all .....
[01:52] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: just a guess
[01:52] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: YES, you're right. CD-ROM is Master on one of the IDEs
[01:52] <YelloJello> hi can anyone tell me how to get root priv. (like with copying files and stuff) and i already know the sudo command i want say my account to be root....
[01:52] <kurt_> grrrrr
[01:52] <YelloJello> but not the name
[01:53] <lasse_> YelloJello, i see what you want to do, but i would recommend not doing it
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: if its that big a deal, u could reconfig that with the jumpers on the drives
[01:53] <YelloJello> PLEASE i really would like it
[01:53] <cables> Is there any way to request for Gaim 2 Beta 6 to be backported to Edcy?
[01:53] <rjw_> hi all got a problem with my system, lots of apps seem to have stopped loading
[01:53] <cables> *Edgy
[01:53] <LiENUS> -9 == SIGKILL
[01:53] <array> ok, I pasted the file in the pastebin, this is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5506/
[01:53] <Spragie`> I am running ubuntu and trying to install sound drivers from ALSA, everything has gone smoothly so far but it is asking to me to edit the kernel module config im not sure what to do
[01:53] <shiv> right now I have a hda3 of 1Kb size. I don't know what to do with it. I have no clue how it got there either
[01:53] <lasse_> YelloJello, you could log in as root. But you dont want to do it, its not safe
[01:54] <Anti-Tedd> Is there a way to get my original sources.list back?
[01:54] <megafauna> lasse_ I typed in about plugins and it brought up the page, told me I could play realmedia but didn't say anthing about helix
[01:54] <YelloJello> lasse_: just i need it i wont like do anyhting stupid...but it mostly for manually installing programs and or easyly changing splash screens
[01:54] <Wimpog> hitmanWilly: not, it is not a big deal, I was just curious, why I could not see hda as one my HDDs. Actually I tried to reconfig the jumpers, but my cd-rom did not like being a slave, and did not work, so I had to make it master again
[01:54] <GaiaX11> !root | YelloJello
[01:54] <ubotu> YelloJello: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:54] <Spragie`> I am running ubuntu and trying to install sound drivers from ALSA, everything has gone smoothly so far but it is asking to me to edit the kernel module config im not sure what to do
[01:54] <kurt_> lasse_,  can you explain why it is so easy to do on my desktop and so hard to do on my laptop
[01:54] <YelloJello> ubotu: already know that
[01:55] <kurt_> i think i done everything
[01:55] <hitmanWilly> Wimpog: probably the way the cables are hooked up
[01:55] <kurt_> besides throw this effing thing out the window
[01:55] <lasse_> kurt, My thought may be that you have the 3g drivers installed on your desktop, and not on your laptop. try sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[01:55] <array> hda2 works fine but if i try to open (nautilus) hda1 it says I don't have such rights (or it shows an empty folder like it's not mounted at all)
[01:55] <kurt_> no no 3g
[01:55] <kurt_> i havent got that far yet
[01:56] <kurt_> both systems are on feisty
[01:56] <kurt_> both updated last night
[01:56] <YelloJello> lasse_: please tell me... at leased if i screw up well its my fault
[01:56] <kurt_> however this is the alternate install
[01:56] <kurt_> but did i do wrong with my mounts ?
[01:56] <lasse_> YelloJello, You shouldnt do it like that. Do a sudo chmod 777 on the folder you want to copy files to, then youre user account is able to read write and execute from it. the manually installing apps, just do sudo -i   then youre loggid in as root
[01:56] <pic__> cya all
[01:57] <lasse_> megafauna, guess you should be alright then
[01:57] <kitche> !feisty | kurt_
[01:57] <ubotu> kurt_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:57] <megafauna> lasse_ i'm not, yet...
[01:57] <kurt_> thats cool kitche
[01:57] <kurt_> but why is the one on my desktop different to the one on my laptop
[01:57] <lasse_> kurt_,  i dont know about feisty sorry
[01:57] <kurt_> ?
[01:57] <YelloJello> so say i wanted to copy a file into the usr folder i would use what exact commant
[01:58] <jnt> hey everyone. I'm having a problem with debarchiver on a local apt repository not finding the packages in incoming - it has worked in the past.
[01:58] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know anything about TRUEMOBILE 1180 INTERNAL 802.11 b mini-pci card?
[01:58] <jnt> debug output indicates that it doesn't seem to see any packages in incoming. anyone have any ideas?
[01:58] <lasse_> megafauna, ok. can you open realplayer from the terminal with the   realplay   command?
[01:59] <kurt_> it seems to be mounting but wont let me read
[01:59] <kurt_> i dont want to activate su on this installation
[01:59] <megafauna> i installed it, it asked me for my password and installed, but then i didn't know what to do and it hadn't appeared in the sound&vid menu
[01:59] <lasse_> YelloJello, ok.  first do    sudo chmod 777 -R /folder/you/want/to/be/able/to/copy/to
[01:59] <billybob> jnt: are you trying to say apt-get install <package>  doesnt work ?
[02:00] <lasse_> YelloJello, then       cp /file/you/want/to/copy /destination/to/where/you/want/it/copied/to/
[02:00] <Spragie`> I am running ubuntu and trying to install sound drivers from ALSA, everything has gone smoothly so far but it is asking to me to edit the kernel module config im not sure what to do
[02:00] <megafauna> lasse_ i installed it, it asked me for my password and installed, but then i didn't know what to do and it hadn't appeared in the sound&vid menu
[02:01] <jnt> billybob: no, debarchiver is scanning incoming and not seeing any packages to accept into the dist
[02:01] <lasse_> megafauna, ok. but try to open a terminal and type in  either   realplay   or   realplayer   . do you get anything?
[02:01] <jnt> it's a local apt repository
[02:01] <megafauna> lasse_ trying now
[02:01] <billybob> jnt: ah, not famailir with that, although soudns very usefull . . .
[02:01] <jnt> we use it a lot for home rolled or backported software
[02:02] <megafauna> lasse_ nothing: command not found.
[02:02] <lasse_> Spragie`, Im not sure at all but maybe you want to insert the module? Then sudo modprobe nameofmodule      and then check if its loaded by  sudo lsmod | grep nameofthemodule
[02:02] <megafauna> lasse_ I still have the .bin on my desktop if that helps
[02:02] <billybob> jnt: yeah, soudns like what i was trying to do over a year ago with debian, just never had teh time . .
[02:02] <lasse_> megafauna, ok. first, lets try   killall gnome-panel   , tehn check if its in the Sound/Video menu
[02:03] <GaiaX11> megafauna: type:  which realplay
[02:03] <kurt_> is there a graphical tool for mounting?
[02:03] <lasse_> megafauna, do as GaiaX11 said
[02:03] <megafauna> lasse_ k
[02:03] <Spragie`> lasse_, well i gedit'd the file it was talking about and it seems like it had just made the file...the only command in it was lp
[02:03] <megafauna> GaiaXll k
[02:04] <megafauna> GaiaXll which realplay does nothing, but at least it doesn't say command not found
[02:04] <lasse_> Spragie`, what file is this?
[02:04] <Joske> The Ubuntu live cd I burned does not boot properly, could someone help?
[02:04] <jvai> joske, u burned it @ 4x?
[02:04] <lasse_> Joske, i think you have to either dl or burn it again. check the md5 checksum
[02:04] <Joske> nope, at 10x
[02:05] <jvai> aaaah slllooooow burn @ joske
[02:05] <billybob> burn speed shouoldnt matter
[02:05] <jvai> 4x
[02:05] <GaiaX11> megafauna: do now: which realplayer
[02:05] <megafauna> am now trying Automatixs
[02:05] <megafauna> GaiaXll: ok
[02:05] <cpk1> megafauna: dont
[02:05] <Joske> as far as I can tell everything went right, I can also access all the files.. but when booting the process hangs after selecting boot/install on the second ubuntu logo
[02:05] <cables> megafauna, Automatix is a really bad idea
[02:05] <lasse_> megafauna, dont do automatix, its not a good way
[02:06] <Spragie`> lasse_ ... /etc/modules.conf
[02:06] <HymnToLife> yep, Automatix is evil
[02:06] <cables> megafauna, it can break installs badly, especially when you try to upgrade to the latest ubuntu
[02:06] <megafauna> oops
[02:06] <GaiaX11> megafauna: do now: which realplayer
[02:06] <megafauna> how do i stop it?
[02:06] <lasse_> Spragie`, isnt it supposed to be just /etc/modules in ubuntu?
[02:06] <megafauna> GaiaXll:  no response
[02:06] <cables> megafauna, is automatix running now, or are you installing it?
[02:06] <billybob> Joske: check the integretity of the iso, and if good, make sure your writer is clean, and after that, make sure the media you use is in good order
[02:06] <megafauna> it is running
[02:06] <megafauna> cables it is running
[02:06] <lasse_> Spragie`, check what is in you /etc/modules file
[02:06] <Spragie`> lasse_, i have no idea lol im a linux new-b
[02:07] <Joske> k
[02:07] <Spragie`> lasse_, k justa sec
[02:07] <megafauna> ooooopps
[02:07] <cables> megafauna, i'd use the automatix uninstaller to remove whatever you just installed with it, then remove automatix, then put your sources.list back to normal.
[02:07] <jvai> joske, slow burns migitate errors
[02:07] <megafauna> found the cancel button
[02:07] <lasse_> megafauna, :D
[02:07] <megafauna> cables: found the cancel button
[02:07] <cables> megafauna, you'll still need to fix your sources.list probably
[02:08] <megafauna> so how do i do that?
[02:08] <Joske> :o it did give me an error saying the cd should be finalized for all the data to fit.. but since it's a > 700 mB iso I wouldn't know why it wouldnt fit on a standard 80 min cd-r
[02:08] <GaiaX11> megafauna: dpkg --purge realplay or dpkg --purge realplayer. Then install everything again :-)
[02:08] <stian2> I need some help with restoring grub (yes, I installed windows). I've mounted my root under /mnt/temp and chroot'ed. I've got a sata drive, and my ext3 partition is on /dev/sda2 (although my /boot/grub/menu.lst boots on (hd0,1)). Anyways, when I launch grub and write: root (hd0,1) I get "error 21: selected disk not found". And, if I write "sudo fdisk -l" I get "cannot open /proc/partitions". Anyone care to help?
[02:08] <megafauna> calbes: there is a button to "Reove Automatix repositories form your souce list"
[02:09] <HymnToLife> Joske, it's normal - just click OK to finalize it
[02:09] <megafauna> GaiaXll k, doing now
[02:09] <youkilldkennedy> Hello
[02:09] <HymnToLife> !hi | youkilldkennedy
[02:09] <ubotu> youkilldkennedy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:09] <youkilldkennedy> Is anyone familiar with FreeLoader?
[02:09] <nexousNET> How do I figure out what my IP is when DHCP is on?
[02:09] <megafauna> GaiaXll requested operation requires superuser privilege
[02:09] <Joske> is finalizing needed for the cd to work?
[02:09] <lufis> Am I the only one having trouble using FTP in Nautilus? It gives me an error every time it try copying a file to a remote server
[02:09] <youkilldkennedy> Haha!
[02:09] <GaiaX11> megafauna: so sudo
[02:09] <HymnToLife> Joske, no, but it is required for the data to fit :p
[02:09] <youkilldkennedy> Does the program not start where it left off with downloads?
[02:09] <theherbalizer> hey guys, problem: trying to mount sda returns this:  "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,       missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so"
[02:09] <GaiaX11> megafauna: sudo dpkg etc ...
[02:10] <lasse_> Spragie`, whats happening buddy?
[02:10] <megafauna> thought so, i just read that a min ago
[02:10] <rbil> nexousNET: you mean the ip addy assigned to your by your ISP?
[02:10] <theherbalizer> youkilldkennedy: freeloader? it does that to me
[02:10] <kekko> nexousnet: ifconfig
[02:10] <Joske> I'm using a rewritable disc, maybe that's the issue?
[02:10] <nexousNET> Okay, Thanks.
[02:10] <youkilldkennedy> theherbalizer: doesn't start where it left off?
[02:10] <HymnToLife> Joske, it should work, just finalize it
[02:10] <billybob> Joske: dotn finalize then, or use different media
[02:10] <v1rtualcowboy> gnite
[02:10] <HymnToLife> it's a bad idea though imo
[02:11] <megafauna> GaiaXll: The plot thickens: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove realplay which isn't installed.
[02:11] <vote4arealclown> anyone have any idea how i get my opengl drivers loaded
[02:11] <vote4arealclown> i'm trying to play planscape
[02:11] <HymnToLife> vote4arealclown, ati or nvidia ?
[02:11] <vote4arealclown> nvidia
[02:11] <nexousNET> Also, How do I start up lampp (command: /opt/lampp/lampp start) on startup?
[02:12] <kitche> !nvidia | vote4arealclown
[02:12] <ubotu> vote4arealclown: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:12] <HymnToLife> !nvidia
[02:12] <billybob> Joske: i would recommend using normal media, and finalizing, i have never finalized a rw, so i couldnt sday if you would lock it down or not
[02:12] <BigMac> Alright guys my ubuntu won't load
[02:12] <BigMac> it go through grub then stops
[02:12] <HymnToLife> damn, kitche beat me to ie
[02:12] <Spragie`> lasse_, ok ... found the modules file....idk how i can edit it or what i should do to it because the only line that is not ignored is 'lp'
[02:12] <HymnToLife> it*
[02:12] <vote4arealclown> thanks dudes....and for the correction!
[02:12] <HymnToLife> billybob, finalizing a rw doesn't "lock" it
[02:13] <kurt_> i friggin give up
[02:13] <megafauna> GaiaXll so if I have realplayer on my desktop as a .bin file, how do I install it, I guess I hadn't been successful
[02:13] <HymnToLife> I still think it's a bad idea thoug, rw's are far less reliable that r's
[02:13] <kurt_> just too fustrating
[02:13] <Joske> hmm, I looked it up and it seems a complete erase will undo the finalizing again.. so I'll try that
[02:13] <billybob> HymnToLife: overburning a RW still isnt a good idea
[02:13] <BigMac> I stried recopying my xorg.conf with sudo cp xorg.conf.original-0 xorg.conf
[02:13] <HymnToLife> billybob, it's not overburning
[02:13] <BigMac> but it still will not load
[02:13] <lasse_> Spragie`, you can add the name of the module you want to load at boottime, but i would suggest you try to load it first with  sudo modprobe nameofthemodule     then     lsmod | grep nameofthemodule    to check if it has loaded
[02:14] <Joske> the fact that it reports the cd-rw to be too small is surprising in the first place
[02:14] <BigMac> is there anything else I can do short of reloading ubuntu with the live disc
[02:14] <megafauna> Can someone recommend a really good beginners guide to using the terminal?
[02:14] <billybob> Joske: use normal media . . .
[02:14] <Pelo> BiGcaT,sudo dpkg-recongifure xserver.conf
[02:14] <HymnToLife> Joske, no, the max amount of data you can burn on a 700 MiB CD without finalizing it is about 670 MiB
[02:15] <Pelo> Bibmac,sudo dpkg-recongifure xserver.conf
[02:15] <theherbalizer> anyone know how to fix this? "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,       missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so"
[02:15] <rbil> megafauna: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[02:15] <HymnToLife> cd-r and cd-rw as well
[02:15] <billybob> Joske: a CD without being overburnt is 650MB, just that most burners + media now days is capable of being overburnt RW is anotehr ballgame
[02:15] <Pelo> megafauna, http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[02:15] <Joske> ...lol, seriously?
[02:15] <lasse_> megafauna, i like this  one. its short and good http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal
[02:15] <billybob> yes.
[02:15] <Joske> so what they are marketing as 80 min discs are in fact 74 min discs capable of overburning?
[02:15] <HymnToLife> theherbalizer, you neer a number after /Dev/sda
[02:15] <jexdawg> how do i access ~/.gnome2/totem_config  ? like... uhh... where is it?
[02:16] <HymnToLife> to tell the kernel which partiton it needs to mount
[02:16] <theherbalizer> HymnToLife: does 0 count?
[02:16] <megafauna> THANKS ALL. I shall be dual booting for the next couple of weeks I guess till I get a handle on this "Terminal Thing"
[02:16] <billybob> Joske: whats the mdeia say as far as storage ?
[02:16] <theherbalizer> HymnToLife: oh, wait, im not mounting the swap, right? so just sda1?
[02:16] <HymnToLife> theherbalizer, no
[02:16] <billybob> because 80 minutes tells me nothign other than its an audio / video CD
[02:16] <Rees2> can anyone tell me why I can sudo but not login as root?
[02:16] <Pelo> jexdawg,    files and folders with a . at the begining are hidden
[02:16] <Joske> afaik 80 min's was in the orange book and whatnot (or however these standards r called nowadays)
[02:16] <brrrt> i have a problem running swiftfox on feisty64: everytime when i start swiftfox, a md5sum process starts to eat up both turion x2 cpu cores for about 30 seconds (!), please, how can this be ??
[02:16] <HymnToLife> theherbalizer, yep, if /dev/sda1 is the partiton you want to mount
[02:16] <HymnToLife> sudo fdisk -l will tell you if you're unsure
[02:17] <Joske> it says 80 min/700 MB
[02:17] <rbil> Rees2: because by default in Ubuntu, root doesn't have a password assigned
[02:17] <billybob> Joske: ah, ok, then im not sure if overburn plays a factor there
[02:17] <Rees2> rbil, I thought SUDO & root use the same password?
[02:17] <HymnToLife> Rees2, they don't
[02:17] <jexdawg> pelo - i checked "show hidden files" - where should it be?
[02:17] <HymnToLife> when you sudo, you use _your_ password
[02:18] <|ADZ|> I am getting the error: An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[02:18] <billybob> HD-CD :)
[02:18] <|ADZ|> when trying to connect to my camera
[02:18] <theherbalizer> HymnToLife: oh, got it now. thanks!
[02:18] <Joske> :p never heard of that
[02:18] <Pelo> jexdawg,  in your home folder
[02:18] <billybob> google :)
[02:18] <Joske> can you read it on a standard cd drive?
[02:18] <lasse_> ok, this has been nice, but its getting late. think its time to go to sleep. good night everybody
[02:18] <billybob> yeap
[02:18] <youkilldkennedy> HymnToLife: Any suggestions for a Torrent downloader that works well with GNOME?
[02:18] <Rees2> HymnToLife, so I guess I have to root my system?  or can I sudo and change the root password?
[02:18] <kurt_> lasse_,  i edited fstab
[02:18] <jexdawg> aha! thanks pelo
[02:18] <billybob> Joske: not many burners suported it
[02:18] <|ADZ|> anyone?
[02:18] <kurt_> lasse_,  hope that works
[02:18] <HymnToLife> youkilldkennedy, nope, KDE all the way since 1999 for me :)
[02:18] <particleman> ok I have the dumb question
[02:18] <kurt_> thanks for the advice though
[02:18] <lasse_> ok, just 2 more mins..
[02:19] <CoAX> hi there
[02:19] <lasse_> kurt_, ok try to sudo umount -a   then sudo mount -a
[02:19] <kurt_> lasse_,  sincerely
[02:19] <Pelo> youkilldkennedy,  utorrent running on wine is the preferred choice right now it seems but keep an eye out for deluge-torrent
[02:19] <particleman> is there something wrong with my settings if I'm trying to upgrade to 6.10 and it can only dl 44 of 45 files?
[02:19] <youkilldkennedy> HymnToLife: I see... why KDE?
[02:19] <kurt_> oh ok i was gonna reboot
[02:19] <HymnToLife> Rees2, you can set a root password if you want to
[02:19] <CoAX> is there an easy way to make the update manager update all the time silently?
[02:19] <HymnToLife> though I can't see why you would
[02:19] <lasse_> kurt_, that should reload the partition tabel (fstable)
[02:19] <youkilldkennedy> Pelo: Sure will! Thanks for the heads up.
[02:19] <BigMac> Can someone please help me really . I can't get any help on etiher channels igMac> and I can't see aything to do besides reinstalling which would be stupid
[02:19] <particleman> and on an unrelated note, anyone here know anything about getting surround sound to output properly with an SB5.1 card?
[02:19] <tritium> BigMac: did you state your exact problem?
[02:19] <HymnToLife> youkilldkennedy, because I like it better, I find Gnome to be awfully unfunctional, but this is quite !offtopic
[02:19] <nexousNET> Hi, How would I go about accessing a windows network driven harddrive?
[02:20] <bithunter> hi! mail-notification in ubuntu edgy has no support for mozilla-thunderbird. am i missing something or is this a bug? or should i post it as a feature reuqest?
[02:20] <Spragie`> lasse_, when i gedit /etc/modules, it gives me several lines starting w/ cannot find card '0', w/ a bunch of no such device lines
[02:20] <Joske> oh well, I'm going to sleep and try some more in the morning; humntolife, billybobm others: thanks for your support! :)
[02:20] <BigMac> tritium: Yah originally it sated X interface gui could not lod
[02:20] <linxeh> I have a dvd .iso I wish to burn - what should I use to burn this from within ubuntu?
[02:20] <kurt_> lasse_,  you know when you do at the end what you should have done at the beginning
[02:20] <BigMac> so i assumed it was from beryl
[02:20] <kurt_> i tmounts it reads
[02:20] <BigMac> and I can't figure out what to do
[02:20] <particleman> answers even
[02:20] <lasse_> Spragie`, jesus, thats not to be expected
[02:21] <lasse_> kurt_, true
[02:21] <kurt_> ok now i can see the data i need
[02:21] <kurt_> lasse_,  thank you so much
[02:21] <jexdawg> ermm.. in /gnome2 there is no totem_config file, only a totem file. this guide is telling me to edit totem_config - should i just edit the totem file?
[02:21] <lasse_> kurt_,  good for you. have nice night
[02:21] <tritium> BigMac: beryl?  Are you using edgy?
[02:21] <kurt_> off to try a wine install of peachtree
[02:21] <MarcN> linxeh: open the file browser (nautilus) and right click on the iso to start the burning program
[02:21] <Pelo> jexdawg,  do a search for the file they want first
[02:21] <lasse_> Spragie`, do you know what   nano  is?
[02:21] <billybob> ahhhh
[02:21] <Spragie`> no
[02:21] <kurt_> nano = editor
[02:22] <HymnToLife> yep, 10^-9 :p
[02:22] <billybob> good ole ceasar salad . . .
[02:22] <BigMac> tritium:yes
[02:22] <Spragie`> ic ic
[02:22] <Spragie`> is nano better than gedit?
[02:22] <linxeh> MarcN: I've tried that - it keeps telling me there isnt enough space on the disc, despite it being a new dvdr and the file being 2.7GiB
[02:22] <HymnToLife> Spragie`, they're different
[02:22] <CoAX> a lot of people in here
[02:22] <MarcN> Spragie`: depends on what you like.  I prefer emacs
[02:22] <billybob> nano is all there is as far as im concerned
[02:22] <lasse_> Spragie`, yeah   nano is a text editor in the terminal. I prefer vim  , but nano might be easier
[02:22] <CoAX> have a good night all
[02:22] <HymnToLife> nano is a command line editor, while gedit is a gui editor
[02:22] <lasse_> Spragie`,  try    sudo nano /etc/modules
[02:22] <MarcN> linxeh: well it works for me.  Try using k3b if you have it installed.
[02:23] <billybob> its not like you cant use nano in x geesh
[02:23] <particleman> I used gksu "update-manager -c"
[02:23] <billybob> man what planet you guys coem from ?!
[02:23] <Pelo> Spragie`,  nano will work without a gui which makes it a good thing to learn for when you get stuck in CLI
[02:23] <lasse_> Spragie`, first you do a sudo cp /etc/modules /etc/modules.backup
[02:23] <linxeh> MarcN: ok thanks, ill give that a go
[02:23] <Morgenroete> i have a question, its possible install and run AIXGL with fglrx?
[02:23] <kitche> Morgenroete: no with fglrx you need xgl
[02:23] <Morgenroete> thanks
[02:23] <LordUltimaDavid> !beryl
[02:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:24] <HymnToLife> billybob, you know, xterm is still command-line...
[02:24] <hartsantler> i have apt-get'ed twiki, how to i run it, i do not see it listed in the Services?
[02:24] <billybob> how does xgl copmpare to beryl anyhow ?
[02:24] <billybob> compare*
[02:24] <particleman> !upgrade
[02:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:24] <billybob> ive never been able to get xgl working AIXGL ran perfectly fine on my 6600GT
[02:24] <kitche> billybob: they are two different things xgl is a server beryl is a window manager
[02:25] <billybob> HymnToLife: exactly my point HOWEVER blasphemy
[02:25] <HymnToLife> billybob, they're different things, XGL is a X implementation, while Beryl is a window manager...
[02:25] <lasse_> Spragie`, i need you to speed up a bit because im going to work tomorrow and its geting late here. Progress?
[02:25] <billybob> HymnToLife: ok, AIXGL then
[02:25] <HymnToLife> as far as I kner on top of Xorgow, AIGLX is just a lay
[02:26] <HymnToLife> while XGL is a completely different X server
[02:26] <Rees2> can anyone please tell me why my floppy drive mounted as /dev/sdc /media/floppy-1 rw fails and says Read Only file system (I'm using VFAT) AND Use floppy drive is checked for every user?
[02:26] <billybob> HymnToLife: a PITA to setup ?
[02:26] <Morgenroete> u cant play opengl games with AIXGL?
[02:26] <billybob> XGL that is
[02:26] <krznpsk> i can't connect my laptop to my wireless network, can someone please help me?
[02:26] <HymnToLife> billybob, as far as my experience gets, yes :p
[02:26] <billybob> Morgenroete: yes you can . . .
[02:26] <particleman> and...ok...that was useless
[02:26] <particleman> ok, one more time for those that just showed up
[02:26] <particleman> I'm trying to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy using gksu "update-manager -c"
[02:27] <linxeh> MarcN: thanks - thats working great
[02:27] <particleman> it goes fine and downloads 43 of the 45 necessary files
[02:27] <particleman> then I get a file not found on the other end error
[02:27] <Morgenroete> i want install aixgl becouse with xgl i cant run opengl games
[02:27] <billybob> Morgenroete: i used the SabayonLinux liveDVD< and ran the doom3 demo, worked perfect, except didnt work (which has nothign to do with graphics)
[02:27] <particleman> is this my problem or the repository's, and how do I resolve it?
[02:27] <Rees2> also, if I try sudo mv ... /media/floppy-1 it says "Operation not permitted"
[02:27] <billybob> except sound ddnt work*
[02:28] <Skuller> hey guys
[02:28] <lasse_> particleman, i would advice you to do a fresh install. but i dont know what the problem might be, sorry
[02:28] <Skuller> LOL...i m in Unreal Tournament rite now...i dint know it had an IRC client as well...lol
[02:28] <billybob> Morgenroete: anyhow, SabayonLInux LIveDVD uses Beryl, and i loaded AIXGL to play doom3
[02:28] <particleman> lasse_-why not an upgrade?
[02:29] <lasse_> particleman, often some things dont quite turn out how they should.. other times its flawless
[02:29] <particleman> hmm
[02:29] <Morgenroete> Billybob thanks
[02:30] <Skuller> what is the difference between a kubuntu CD and a DVD?...i mean what extras are there in it?
[02:30] <billybob> Skuller" probably every_possible_package ..
[02:30] <lasse_> Spragie`, Please i really want to help you, but this has to be a two way communication. talk to me man
[02:31] <Skuller> billybob: thnx...thas gud to know coz i m on slow broadband anywaiz...128kbps....
[02:32] <particleman> *sigh*
[02:32] <billybob> Skuller: i know nothing about install kbuntu, but would expect, anything that you NEED could also be downloaded one package at a time, for me personally, i think DVD sized installs are a waste of time / bandwidth
[02:32] <billybob> then again, i like min installs
[02:34] <icatalina> hi! i've compiled gimp with a wrong "prefix" option...
[02:34] <icatalina> then i uninstall it and delete the compilation folder
[02:34] <jester-> icatalina: and?
[02:35] <icatalina> i extract it again and remake it but it still trying to get the configuration files from the wrong prefix folder
[02:35] <icatalina> any idea??
[02:35] <hartsantler> i'm getting crappy graphics performance, should i apt-get aiglx ? or get xgl ?  which is easy for nividia card?
[02:35] <kitche> icatalina: how are you compiling it?
[02:35] <billybob> !aixgl
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <jvai> question: is ubuntu alternate install, the closest to debian's net install?
[02:35] <billybob> !beryl
[02:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <cables> !aiglx | billybob
[02:36] <ubotu> billybob: AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[02:36] <jester-> icatalina: nedd to delete .gimp directory on your home
[02:36] <billybob> err yeah
[02:36] <icatalina> i delete it 5th times
[02:36] <Arigato> where on the computer are the nautilus thumbnails for video and images stored?
[02:36] <billybob> hartsantler: anyhow check #ubuntu-effects, they probably know
[02:37] <ferret_0567> Does anybody know why the X Double Buffer Extension (dbe) is not working? I added it to my xorg.conf file under the "Modules" section, but it still does not seem to be loading. I am running Ubuntu 6.10 with a "NVIDIA GeForce 4 440 Go with AGP 4x" and the proprietary NVIDIA module.
[02:37] <ferret_0567> !conky
[02:37] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[02:37] <ferret_0567> That's the software I am trying to use with the DBE extension\
[02:38] <Morgenroete> who is that?
[02:38] <|ADZ|> i keep getting a message: An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[02:38] <|ADZ|> when trying to connect a camera
[02:38] <|ADZ|> anyone know why?
[02:38] <krznpsk> my pcmcia wireless card is not working in this old laptop, can someone help me?
[02:39] <ferret_0567> Maybe laptop not CardBus capable? :)
[02:39] <jexdawg> in gaim, how can i automatically send this message to nickserv everytime i login: "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY my-password" ?
[02:39] <cables> jexdawg, #gaim
[02:39] <jexdawg> word
[02:39] <frogzoo> |ADZ|: not sure, take a look in sys -> prefs -> removable -> camera maybe
[02:39] <billybob> in short, learn how to script ;)
[02:39] <krznpsk> wah?
[02:40] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know why Azureus won't minimize to the system tray?
[02:40] <jexdawg> is freenode like the opensource program server?
[02:40] <gabriela> how can check if my windows disc have virus from ubuntu?
[02:40] <leal> hello...
[02:40] <frogzoo> jexdawg: well s/the/a & then yes
[02:41] <kitche> !clamav | gabriela
[02:41] <ubotu> gabriela: clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:41] <cables> jexdawg, there's a password box in the account settings for an IRC account. Use that.
[02:41] <leal> there is a package to install the sled 10 gnome "look" to ubuntu?
[02:41] <gabriela> do i have to installed from synaptic?
[02:41] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know why Azureus won't minimize to the system tray?
[02:42] <gabriela> ok thanks gonna check it
[02:42] <leal> themes, icons and panel?
[02:42] <gabriela> and if i find a virus is it safe to remove it?
[02:44] <ferret_0567> Anybody?
[02:45] <Bourne> hi.. is there a way to make ubuntu 6.10 faster, I find the boot/shutdown process too slow, now I read that SysVinit is not anymore the script ruler in this release... how do I turn off stuff just like I used to with sysvinit?
[02:46] <EchoBinary> http://youtube.com/watch?v=D1Nq086QB1Q
[02:46] <cables> Bourne, I think it pretty much emulates sysvinit for all your startup services... someone should probably back that up though, i'm not entirely sure.
[02:46] <EchoBinary> ....   crap - sorry - wrong window
[02:47] <Bourne> cables: it is said that is some thing called upstart...
[02:47] <eternaljoy> whats KVM?
[02:47] <cables> Bourne, I know... I think it's compatible with init configuration scripts and can be configured the same way, though.
[02:47] <Kapuche> thx for the link EchoBinary  now i know who sing that ;)
[02:48] <cables> Bourne, there's a channel called #upstart with a few people in it...
[02:48] <Bourne> cables: you know the way we used to do... turning off by Sysiniv application
[02:48] <eternaljoy> !kvm
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <cables> Bourne, I think that may still work.
[02:49] <Bourne> cables: it doesn't, I marked for installation and immediately, the upstart in the list got marked as to-be-removed
[02:49] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody knows how to remap my numeric pad return key to the normal return key? or how to make the numeric pad return key "work" in text input boxes and such?
[02:49] <francois> !ssh
[02:49] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:50] <rbil> Bourne: I hate when "updates" like this come along that break what has worked so well for years. I'd like to read somewhere a justification for changing things like this.
[02:50] <DARKGuy> Evolution.
[02:50] <DARKGuy> Improvement.
[02:50] <amorphous_> does anyone here use opera for mail?
[02:51] <kristallpirat> has anybody a running gpg version 2.0.2?
[02:51] <Bourne> rbil: YEAH.LOL
[02:51] <Bourne> rbil: sounds like REDHAT
[02:52] <andre> !ntfs
[02:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:52] <DARKGuy> ...wtf
[02:52] <DARKGuy> !offtopic
[02:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:52] <andre> !ntfs-3g
[02:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:53] <ferret_0567> !newnvidia
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newnvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <LjL> !nvidia9
[02:53] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[02:53] <carlhume> I'm trying to find the line to add to my apt sources to be able to install java-package - anyone know?
[02:53] <billybob> !IET
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <billybob> !iSCSI
[02:54] <bruenig> carlhume, what is java-package
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iscsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <bruenig> !fishing | billybob
[02:54] <ubotu> billybob: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:54] <juggernaut> how do i set permissions for a directory?
[02:54] <carlhume> bruenig, I'm following the how-to on www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76735.html
[02:54] <bruenig> !permissions | juggernaut
[02:54] <ubotu> juggernaut: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:54] <juggernaut> i remember it's a chown command but i can't remember all of it.
[02:54] <billybob> bruenig: relax, i sent two querries ffs . . .
[02:55] <bruenig> juggernaut, could be chmod, depending on what exactly you are dong
[02:55] <carlhume> bruenig, I'm guessing it's the deb that contains make-jpkg ...
[02:55] <juggernaut> bruenig, i just want to enable write permission to the azureus directory so it will update for me.
[02:56] <bruenig> juggernaut, write for everyone?
[02:56] <juggernaut> for me.
[02:56] <ferret_0567> you should download the offical Azureus, not use the Ubuntu one
[02:56] <juggernaut> bruenig, everybody would be ok too, as i'm the only one who uses this system.
[02:56] <bruenig> juggernaut, well chmod -R 777 would do all, if you just wanted you, you would need to chown it to yourself and then chmod u+w it
[02:57] <juggernaut> ferret_0567, what's different about the official, versus the ubuntu one?
[02:57] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody knows how to remap my numeric pad return key to the normal return key? or how to make the numeric pad return key "work" in text input boxes and such?
[02:57] <bruenig> the official one was easier to manage for me because of the permission issues
[02:57] <juggernaut> hmm....
[02:57] <jvai> question: is ubuntu alternate install, the closest to debian's net install?
[02:58] <bruenig> !minimal | jvai
[02:58] <ubotu> jvai: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:58] <ferret_0567> The offical Azureus has a newer SWT library so that it'll crash less (atleast for me. I am using the Murrine GTK Engine)
[02:58] <juggernaut> thanks!  i'll look into it after i'm done downloading my current torrents.
[02:58] <juggernaut> i'm using xubuntu for now.  just wanted to try it out....
[02:58] <jvai> aaaaah ty bruenig .. & ubotu
[02:58] <andre> hey guys, how do I resize my swap partition?
[02:58] <juggernaut> my lappy is puny on specs and ubuntu was running rather slowly.
[02:59] <bruenig> andre, use gparted
[02:59] <carlhume> bruenig, Any guesses?
[02:59] <bruenig> carlhume, is that java for 64 bit?
[02:59] <bruenig> carlhume, or your initial question was about adding repo lines right?
[02:59] <carlhume> bruenig, yes
[02:59] <andre> bruenig,  I'll try that
[02:59] <juggernaut> would azureus contribute to bad sectors on my HD?
[02:59] <carlhume> bruenig, yes
[02:59] <jvai> wow! 10mb for a minimal install image! bettr than deb's net install, & smaller!
[02:59] <juggernaut> or frostwire?
[02:59] <maxx18> hey guys is it ok for me to dist-upgrade using Synaptic? (if i change sources.list manually)
[02:59] <heatman> Hi everyone. Does anyone use fluxbox with edgy? I cant find the .fluxbox folder after installing it via apt-get. Can someone help?
[02:59] <bruenig> andre, make sure you right click on it and select unmount before you try to resize
[03:00] <bruenig> carlhume, well /etc/apt/sources.list is where you would add it
[03:00] <kitche> heatman: did you run fluxbox yet?
[03:00] <juggernaut> what's fluxbox?
[03:00] <carlhume> bruenig, yes
[03:00] <carlhume> bruenig, I can't find what repo I need to add...
[03:01] <bruenig> carlhume, that howto is really old, year and a half, it is probably obselete
[03:01] <bruenig> obsolete*
[03:01] <heatman> a minimalist desktop... replace KDE... somewhat
[03:01] <DARKGuy> fluxbox = coolest thing ever
[03:01] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody knows how to remap my numeric pad return key to the normal return key? or how to make the numeric pad return key "work" in text input boxes and such?
[03:02] <heatman> DARKGuy: can u tell me if u installed it with apt-get?
[03:02] <DARKGuy> heatman: yes, apt-get install fluxbox
[03:02] <carlhume> bruenig, hrm - well then, back to the drawing board
[03:02] <carlhume> bruenig, thx
[03:02] <DARKGuy> heatman: you need the universe/multiverse repositories enabled though
[03:03] <heatman> DARKGuy: can u tell me where i can find the .flubox folder? I wanna modify my menu and such
[03:03] <bruenig> carlhume, do you need just the plugin, because I know some howtos for that
[03:03] <DARKGuy> heatman: in /home/user/.fluxbox/
[03:03] <unop> heatman,  ~/.fluxbox
[03:03] <DARKGuy> heatman: It won't be there until you run fluxbox for the first time though
[03:03] <ubuntu_cry> hey
[03:03] <carlhume> bruenig, No - I need the SDK
[03:03] <ubuntu_cry> is there someone here
[03:03] <DARKGuy> heatman: and "man fluxbox" should tell you everything about the menu, startup and other files
[03:03] <ubuntu_cry> now i have one question
[03:03] <heatman> thats odd... could access it... just could
[03:03] <bruenig> !hi | ubuntu_cry
[03:03] <ubotu> ubuntu_cry: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:04] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_cry: there are plenty of people here
[03:04] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig man
[03:04] <carlhume> bruenig, I just found the java6 jdk in Multiverse - maybe I'll give it a whirl
[03:04] <andre> bruenig,  tx
[03:04] <ubuntu_cry> buenig
[03:04] <heatman> yeah i know how to make it work... just first time installing it via apt-get
[03:04] <ubuntu_cry> person bruenig
[03:04] <ubuntu_cry> perdon
[03:04] <DARKGuy> heatman: Ahh, have you enabled the repositories yet?
[03:04] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig i have problem
[03:04] <unop> heatman,  fluxmenu is a GUI tool that'll help you design the fluxbox menu
[03:04] <cables> !ask | ubuntu_cry
[03:04] <ubotu> ubuntu_cry: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:04] <heatman> DARKGuy: think so... what repo is there to add?
[03:05] <heatman> unop: i know ;)
[03:05] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig i can't make new partition gparted say that this partition is windows dynamic what can i do man.
[03:05] <cables> ubuntu_cry, why not ask everyone, not just bruenig?
[03:05] <unop> !info fluxbox | heatman
[03:05] <ubotu> heatman: fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (edgy), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[03:05] <kismet> Does anyone know what I need to connect my cellphone to ubuntu?
[03:05] <cables> ubuntu_cry, can you say the exact error?
[03:05] <kismet> Besides my usb cord?
[03:05] <DARKGuy> heatman: multiverse and/or universe, try editing the /etc/apt/sources.list and removing the comment (#) before the deb and deb-src lines that have universe and/or multiverse in the end
[03:05] <ubuntu_cry> cables becouse man becouse i know him
[03:05] <bruenig> ubuntu_cry, do you have empty space, you need empty space for a new partition
[03:05] <DARKGuy> yay, ubotu rocks
[03:05] <ubuntu_cry> cables ok moment
[03:06] <bruenig> I don't know him unless it is a different username
[03:06] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig man i have 31gb free
[03:06] <unop> !ubotu
[03:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:06] <HighLife245> Is it possible to download files from a computer with ssh server installed?
[03:06] <bruenig> ubuntu_cry, it has to be unallocated
[03:06] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig man you may know him i have sometime with ubuntu
[03:06] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody knows how to remap my numeric pad return key to the normal return key? or how to make the numeric pad return key "work" in text input boxes and such?
[03:06] <ubuntu_cry> cables are you here
[03:07] <cables> ubuntu_cry, you need to shrink the existing partitions to make room for a new one
[03:07] <unop> HighLife245,  sure .. sftp or scp can be used to connect upto the ssh server .. although stfp might need extra configuration
[03:07] <EchoBinary> there is no cables, only Zuul
[03:07] <cables> EchoBinary, there is no cables?
[03:07] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig i will try again gparted and will tell you what error give me
[03:07] <rj__> I also have gparted problem.  Or, I should say, created a major problem with gparted.
[03:07] <ubuntu_cry> cables man????
[03:07] <HighLife245> unop I was hoping to do it through something like putty
[03:07] <ubuntu_cry> cables to delete the partition
[03:07] <cables> ubuntu_cry, what are you trying to do?
[03:08] <unop> DARKGuy,  xmodmap should be able to do that
[03:08] <ubuntu_cry> cables i'm trying to install format
[03:08] <ubuntu_cry> perdon
[03:08] <cables> ubuntu_cry, you want to make a new partition, right?
[03:08] <ubuntu_cry> cables i'm im trying to make new partition
[03:08] <DARKGuy> unop: yes, but I don't know how to use it for that (I followed a tutorial for the print screen key, but I have no idea for the other return key)
[03:08] <ubuntu_cry> cables but i can't,and windows xp too say this.
[03:08] <rj__> When I last installed XP, I went partition-crazy and created an OS partition, an Applications partition, and a data partition.
[03:08] <cables> ubuntu_cry, how many partitions does the drive currently have?
[03:08] <Mr_Bunny_> where does the corefont install by default? wine wants the M$ fonts...
[03:09] <rj__> Problem is, OS partition became too small over time.
[03:09] <ubuntu_cry> cables only 1 partition and is 300gb
[03:09] <unop> HighLife245,  errm, i dont really know much abut putty
[03:09] <vote4arealclown> i went threw the hold howto on installing nvidia
[03:09] <cables> ubuntu_cry, you need to resize that partition to make room for your new partition.
[03:09] <Bourne> people... why GNOME... man, I have given a time to the linux thing... and just to get back and feel that GNOME runs slower and slower, and it keeps slowing, even on a 3Ghz/512MB computer
[03:09] <vote4arealclown> and still no go
[03:09] <vote4arealclown> anyone have any ideas?
[03:09] <cables> Bourne, your computer seriously has issues...
[03:09] <ubuntu_cry> cables there is the problem
[03:09] <francois> Mr_Bunny_: did you install msttcorefonts ??
[03:09] <HighLife245> Well I would like to download files to a windows comtpuer
[03:09] <HighLife245> computer*
[03:09] <rj__> I tried to use gparted to expand the OS partition, but Apps partition was next to it.  So I copy/pasted apps to the other side of Data, then deleted original Apps (D:/).
[03:10] <ubuntu_cry> cables in resize Gparted don't give me to do this.
[03:10] <Bourne> cables: it realllly doesnt, my tweaked XP is WAY faster than Gnome
[03:10] <DARKGuy> Bourne: I've felt the same thing over time. However, there are alternatives oO XFCE is good, and fluxbox is too. Running GTK apps under these does good (to my PC at least)
[03:10] <rj__> Now XP does not see D:, only "Apps" which it sees but does not access
[03:10] <cables> Bourne, I have much less than that and Gnome is WAY faster than XP. It's just you.
[03:10] <Bourne> cables: and starting to think that XP default is WAY faster
[03:10] <rj__> now all programs are broken.  please help
[03:10] <cables> ubuntu_cry, do you speak english natively?
[03:10] <ubuntu_cry> cables no why?
[03:10] <DARKGuy> Bourne: It is - until you install stuff and stuff :P
[03:11] <shatrat> cables, I bet he hasnt installed his drivers or something
[03:11] <unop> DARKGuy, this should help http://cweiske.de/howto/xmodmap/allinone.html
[03:11] <cables> ubuntu_cry, what language do you speak?
[03:11] <Bourne> Darkguy: I am getting xfce... GNOME is unbearable... i only can take the support comments to it as mad-passion....
[03:11] <ubuntu_cry> cables lets say Bulgarian
[03:11] <DARKGuy> unop: Ah, I'll check that link, thanks!
[03:11] <ubuntu_cry> cables why can't you help me
[03:11] <cables> shatrat, or it's a KVM :), but the problem is really that he can't make a new partition
[03:11] <dm> Anyone here know how much space XCFE will take on my HDD?
[03:11] <bruenig> bulgaria is awesome, I like the attack party
[03:11] <dm> i was thinking about trying it again
[03:11] <cables> ubuntu_cry, because you're not being clear.
[03:11] <DARKGuy> Bourne: XFCE shall do good - it has a plugin to load some Gnome applets in case you miss osme of them :P
[03:11] <unop> !info xfce
[03:11] <ubotu> Package xfce does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[03:11] <bruenig> !info xubuntu-desktop
[03:11] <DARKGuy> *some
[03:11] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.23 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 36 kB
[03:12] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig man ok
[03:12] <hagabaka> if i use bcron instead of vixie-cron, would some packages have problem running maintenance scripts?
[03:12] <dm> Bourne what is wrong with gnome?
[03:12] <ubuntu_cry> cables can i chat with in private with you
[03:12] <cables> ubuntu_cry, sure
[03:12] <Bourne> dm slower than windows xp
[03:12] <dm> bourne WHAT>???
[03:12] <ubuntu_cry> cablrs but the nick is not registered
[03:12] <Bourne> dm on default install...
[03:12] <ubuntu_cry> cables but the nick is not registered
[03:12] <dm> bourne what kinda PC u runnin
[03:12] <bruenig> Gnome is sluggish, compared to xfce
[03:12] <Bourne> 3Ghz/512MB
[03:12] <shatrat> Bourne, did you not install your video drivers?  Gnome is faster than XP and most other windowing environments in just about every way
[03:12] <CupCakeMaster> Can anyone help me instal wine /
[03:12] <cables> ubuntu_cry, join #cables
[03:12] <bruenig> CupCakeMaster, sudo apt-get install wine
[03:13] <cables> !wine | CupCakeMaster
[03:13] <ubotu> CupCakeMaster: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:13] <ubuntu_cry> ok man thanks
[03:13] <Ferret> hagabaka: cron is a relatively well-defined system.  As long as those maintenance scripts aren't using vixie-cron extensions like @daily, they should be fine
[03:13] <Bourne> shatrat: i take your comment as passionate?
[03:13] <hagabaka> hmm
[03:13] <Ferret> hagabaka: If they are doing that they shouldn't, so report it as a bug ;p
[03:13] <Mr_Bunny_> francois, I'm not sure how to whisper but I used Add/Remove programs on 6.10 to install "Microsoft Core Fonts"
[03:13] <hagabaka> ok
[03:13] <dm> bruenig i was thinking about trying xfce, but last time i did, i didnt find it enjoyable as i did gnome
[03:13] <hagabaka> i had some errors when i installed bcron though
[03:13] <dm> bruenig the file manager in xfce was horrible imo
[03:13] <bruenig> dm, thunar?
[03:13] <Bourne> shatrat: i'm getting xfce, then Ill be able to tell if it's issue with video.. it could be
[03:13] <shatrat> Bourne, well, it is a passionate time of the year.  Anyway, if you consider anythin about gnome slow you must have something set up incorrectly or not have direct rendering
[03:13] <bruenig> thunar is great. When I used gnome I actually used thunar
[03:14] <shatrat> Bourne, it takes 2 seconds to tell, "glxinfo | grep rendering" in terminal
[03:14] <dudanogueira> join #ubuntu-nz
[03:14] <dm> bruenig i tried xfce a year ago, so i dont rmember what it was
[03:14] <bruenig> no need for those arrows when you have the tabs at the top
[03:14] <DARKGuy> I use thunar here with fluxbox :P
[03:14] <vote4arealclown> anyone have any ideas on how to get my 3d working
[03:14] <Bourne> shatrat: ok help me out
[03:14] <CupCakeMaster> i got this "E: Invalid operation instal"
[03:14] <dm> shatrat aye ill agree with him bourne
[03:14] <Bourne> shatrat: coz my system, when I install XP, it is just like this until I install the video driver
[03:14] <vote4arealclown> i've went threw the howto and got nothing
[03:14] <dm> vote4realclown try ENVY
[03:14] <bruenig> CupCakeMaster, do you have the universe repo enabled or do you not know (probably means you don't then)
[03:14] <vote4arealclown> envy?
[03:14] <noodles12> is there a way to configure konquerer to view "IE only" pages?
[03:15] <CupCakeMaster> yeh i have no idea what your talking about
[03:15] <dm> envy is a gfx driver installer
[03:15] <shatrat> Bourne, well its the same with any unaccelerated 2D environment, your CPU is doing the work of the videocard.  Anyway, direct rendering yes or no?
[03:15] <CupCakeMaster> = P
[03:15] <vote4arealclown> thanks
[03:15] <dm> it works wonders for me vote4arealclown
[03:15] <tritium> dm: please don't recommend that
[03:15] <bruenig> CupCakeMaster, are you on edgy or dapper?
[03:15] <unop> dm,  you could use nautilus under xfce .. or better something like gnome-commander or the rox-filer
[03:15] <Bourne> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
[03:15] <Bourne> direct rendering: Yes
[03:15] <CupCakeMaster> ?
[03:15] <Trini_Man> hi everyone
[03:15] <andre> !fstab
[03:15] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:15] <bruenig> CupCakeMaster, 6.10 or 6.06
[03:15] <CupCakeMaster> 6.06
[03:15] <Bourne> shatrat: yes, direct rendering
[03:16] <Trini_Man> i cant boot ubuntu ubuntu failed to load nvidia kernel module
[03:16] <Trini_Man> it happened after an update this morning
[03:16] <Trini_Man> ubuntu failed to load nvidia kernel module
[03:16] <shatrat> Bourne, what hardware do you have? graphics card, ram, cpu.
[03:16] <ubuntu_cry> hey what is the command to make screenshots
[03:16] <DARKGuy> ah, the link helps a lot, thanks unop!
[03:16] <Trini_Man> can someone help thanks
[03:16] <Mr_Bunny_> where do the msttcorefonts default install to? i need to copy them over so my wine install can use them...
[03:17] <Trini_Man> ubuntu failed to load nvidia kernel module
[03:17] <unop> DARKGuy,  don't tell anyone, google is my secret weapon :p
[03:17] <Bourne> shatrat: the video is a Savage S3 Unichrome.... the RAM I have is 512 MB, the CPU is a Celeron 2.66
[03:17] <shatrat> Mr_Bunny_, /usr/share/fonts I think
[03:17] <CupCakeMaster> lol
[03:17] <DARKGuy> unop: lol, sure ;)
[03:17] <Trini_Man> i try to update nvidia stuff still did not fix it
[03:17] <mdmartz_> In what file can I make modifications to the driver used by a specific piece of hardware?  In this case a wireless card that was previously using a orinco driver and now using prism.
[03:17] <ubuntu_cry> !screenshots
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenshots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <unop> DARKGuy,  especially since google likes linux too -- http://google.com/linux :)
[03:17] <Trini_Man> how do i role back kernel updates
[03:17] <sadistico> !wireless
[03:17] <bruenig> CupCakeMaster, okay copy this entire thing at once, it should enable all your repos, update, and then install wine: sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/dapper universe/dapper universe multiverse/g' -e 's/dapper-security universe/dapper-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[03:17] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:17] <shatrat> Bourne, ah I see.  But you get "direct rendering: yes" when you use that command I gave you earlier?  the Savage card is a little slow but it should be fine on the desktop.  Im not familiar with it though
[03:17] <andre> hey guys, I just mounted a partition,  how do I get it to show in "computer" ?
[03:17] <DARKGuy> unop: :o didn't know that, haha ^^
[03:17] <ferret_0567> ubuntu_cry: gnome-screenshot
[03:18] <ubuntu_cry> and in kde
[03:18] <andre> !computer
[03:18] <CupCakeMaster> mdma? eVil MD
[03:18] <Trini_Man> ubuntu failed to load nvidia kernel module
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about computer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <Bourne> Bourne: yes I got "Direct Rendering YES"
[03:18] <Bourne> shatrat: yes I got "Direct Rendering YES"
[03:18] <ferret_0567> Err...dunno
[03:18] <andre> hey guys, I just mounted a partition,  how do I get it to show in "computer" ?
[03:18] <ferret_0567> Go to #kubuntu
[03:18] <ferret_0567> I haven't used KDE in a while
[03:18] <hagabaka> should the bcron package have its own man page? i installed it, but man cron still says vixie cron
[03:19] <hagabaka> and there is no manpage for bcron
[03:19] <Bourne> shatrat: and "3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46"
[03:19] <Trini_Man> ubuntu failed to load nvidia kernel module
[03:19] <shatrat> Bourne, thats a harmless warning.  its fixed in 2.6.19 but it doesnt really effect anything
[03:19] <bruenig> Trini_Man, little more will be necessary if you want help
[03:19] <mdmartz_> In what file can I make modifications to the driver used by a specific piece of hardware?  In this case a wireless card that was previously using a orinco driver and now using prism.
[03:19] <Bourne> shatrat; so, any tweaks to make this videocard faster?
[03:20] <Bourne> shatrat; coz it does perform well on XP
[03:20] <rj__> Please help. . . . Ideas on reactivating my applications partiiton in XP?  Copy/pasted my D: (applications) partition, to expand C:.  Then deleted D:.  the copied partition is seen by XP, but inaccessible.  Created a new D: and want to copy/past data from the inaccessible partition into new D:, hoping C: (XP) will see the new D: (and data pasted from former D:, now inaccessible partition) and applications will work again.  Please advise.  I am
[03:20] <rj__>  unable (or don't know how) to "mount" the partition XP cannot access.  I am using 6.06LTS live cd hoping for rescue.  please help.
[03:20] <Bourne> shatrat; with its driver
[03:20] <Trini_Man> ok i did a kernel update that ubuntu had this morning when i reboot Xserver gave me this error ""
[03:20] <shatrat> Bourne, I dont know if ive ever even seen one of those, much less worked with it.  Im poking around but I dont see much documentation on it.  Most people run Nvidia, Intel, or ATI
[03:20] <Trini_Man> "ubuntu failed to load nvidiakernel module "
[03:21] <shatrat> Bourne, if I find something Ill let you know, but maybe you should try installing "xubuntu-desktop"
[03:21] <Bourne> ok thanks
[03:21] <tritium> Trini_Man: you're likely missing the linux-restricted-modules for that kernel version
[03:21] <Trini_Man> tritium : how do i install that ?
[03:22] <bruenig> Trini_Man, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[03:22] <tritium> Trini_Man: should be automatic, with your kernel update.  What release are you running?
[03:22] <shatrat> Bourne, actually I might have something else you could try.
[03:22] <Bourne> shatrat: what is it
[03:23] <DARKGuy> Yay!
[03:23] <Trini_Man> tritium: i dont know the exact kernal version its now it asked me to update today i am runnuing 6.10
[03:23] <ferret_0567> Does anybody use the "dbe" X extension with a NVIDIA card?
[03:23] <DARKGuy> keycode 36 = Return
[03:23] <DARKGuy> keycode 108 = Return
[03:23] <DARKGuy> That did it :D
[03:23] <bruenig> Trini_Man, run that command, it will install the right modules for your kernel
[03:23] <mdmartz_> In what file can I make modifications to the driver used by a specific piece of hardware?  In this case a wireless card that was previously using a orinco driver and now using prism.
[03:23] <shatrat> Bourne, changing the color depth to 16.  if you do gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and go down to the Screen section at the bottom there is a line that says "DefaultDepth 24"  I think if you change it to 16 and save it, then ctrl alt backspace to restart X you should be faster.
[03:23] <tritium> Trini_Man: uname -r to find out your kernel version
[03:23] <Trini_Man> ok i will try it
[03:23] <sadistico> !ftwcutter
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftwcutter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <sadistico> !fwcutter
[03:24] <tritium> Trini_Man: and bruenig has you covered
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fwcutter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <Trini_Man> tritium : going nad try it now thanks guys
[03:24] <tritium> :)
[03:24] <bruenig> Trini_Man, remember that the ` are the thing above the tab and to the left of 1, I once thought they were ' and yeah failure ensued
[03:25] <bruenig> is*
[03:25] <Trini_Man> k kool
[03:25] <Trini_Man> thanks
[03:25] <Bourne> shatrat: ok i just commented out the other settings left only 16bit
[03:25] <juano__> how do i make GDM my default desktop manager again _
[03:25] <juano__> ?
[03:25] <f> um
[03:25] <f> sessopms
[03:25] <f> sessions
[03:25] <f> at the main screen
[03:25] <Bourne> shatrat: i just installed xubuntu... how do i switch gnome to it
[03:25] <f> login screen
[03:25] <f> sessions
[03:25] <ElbridgeGerry> GAH!
[03:25] <bruenig> !enter
[03:25] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:25] <shatrat> Bourne, ah, no those are the Modelines, they specify what resolution is available at different depths.  What you need to do is look for the DefaultDepth line, which specifies which one of those lines to use.
[03:26] <bimberi> juano__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:26] <rj__> Gparted problem. Ideas on reactivating my applications partiiton in XP?  Copy/pasted my D: (applications) partition, to expand C:.  Then deleted D:.  the copied partition is seen by XP, but inaccessible.  Created a new D: and want to copy/past data from the inaccessible partition into new D:, hoping C: (XP) will see the new D: (and data pasted from former D:, now inaccessible partition) and applications will work again.  Please advise.  I am u
[03:26] <rj__> nable (or don't know how) to "mount" the partition XP cannot access.  I am using 6.06LTS live cd hoping for rescue.  please help.
[03:26] <shatrat> Bourne, so uncomment them, and change "DefaultDepth  24" to DefaultDepth 16
[03:26] <llama32> anyone know how to fix automount? i had a screwup with users & groups, and now i've gotta mount everthing manually
[03:26] <gabriela> hi
[03:26] <Mhz> hi everyone
[03:26] <Bourne> shatrat: yes, i djd that
[03:26] <shatrat> Bourne, lets try this first before you log into XFCE
[03:26] <juano__> bimberi: will this take away my sessions settings ?
[03:26] <bruenig> !hi | gabriela and Mhz
[03:26] <ubotu> gabriela and Mhz: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:26] <gortba_> Hi everyone. I have a textbook on C++ that I want to work through to teach myself how to program. Can anyone tell me what program I need to install on my linux machine to get started?
[03:26] <Bourne> shatrat:
[03:26] <Bourne> ok
[03:26] <gabriela> thanks
[03:26] <shatrat> Bourne, great, save and then ctrl alt backspace.  That restarts X
[03:27] <bimberi> juano__: not sure, i doubt it
[03:27] <gabriela> i want to change the boot splash
[03:27] <juano__> bimberi:  ok
[03:27] <DLB|Maximus> im having a problem with the ubuntu installer @ prepare mount partitions, its telling me "no root file system" i have clearly selected "/" at hda6 with size of 6gb, what gives?
[03:27] <Mhz> does anyone feel like helping a poor man whose update manager is screwed up?
[03:27] <ElbridgeGerry> Every time I try to use QSynaptics to edit my touchpad, when I turn the touchpad tapping off, and click "Apply" or "OK", it doesn't save. Tapping still counts as a click
[03:27] <gabriela> but i can not unzip the image to .grub folder
[03:27] <shatrat> gortba_, well, build-essential will get you a compiler along with source code for the kernel and other good stuff.
[03:27] <bruenig> !anyone | Mhz
[03:27] <ubotu> Mhz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:27] <unop> gortba_,  build-essentials g++
[03:27] <gabriela> it toldme that i dont have permisions
[03:27] <noodles12> how would i install a java virtual machine for ies4linux?
[03:27] <bimberi> gortba_: build-essential (includes gcc and other goodies)
[03:27] <ElbridgeGerry> Do I have to restart X for the changes to take effect?
[03:27] <gabriela> wanted to do this
[03:27] <shatrat> gortba_, but you might want an IDE as well.  I think jgrasp is a decent one for beginners.
[03:27] <gabriela> Gzip your xpm file and put it into your /boot/GRUB directory (or to any directory of a /dev/hda1 partition)
[03:28] <gabriela> does someones know how?
[03:28] <bruenig> gabriela, you need to sudo mv it
[03:28] <gortba_> thanks everyone. shatrat--what is an IDE?
[03:28] <Mhz> cool, here's my problem: recently I started having trouble in my update manager with Samba
[03:28] <mdmartz_> In what file can I make modifications to the driver used by a specific piece of hardware?  In this case a wireless card that was previously using a orinco driver and now using prism.
[03:28] <bimberi> noodles12: download/install the plugin using IE itself
[03:28] <Bourne> shatrat: i seems a lot faster
[03:28] <krel> is it a known problem for ubuntu to fail to come out of standby about 50% of the time?  and if so, is there a solution?
[03:28] <shatrat> gortba_, Integrated Development Environment.
[03:28] <daveyarusso> Hi, a bit of an odd dialup issue here.  Using sl-modem-daemon for my modem, and the regular gnome network-admin > Enable interface works, while gnome-ppp does not.  I tried running network-admin from a terminal to see what it did differently, but got no useful output.  What should I try to change in gnome-ppp?
[03:29] <Mhz> and today I got this msg: It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[03:29] <gabriela> bruenig i can not get it with sudo
[03:29] <Bourne> shatrat: lemme turn on some apps to check
[03:29] <bruenig> Mhz, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install -f
[03:29] <gabriela> i know that im doing wrong
[03:29] <unop> gzip -9v file.xpm; mv file.xpm.gz /boot/grub  gabriela
[03:29] <shatrat> Bourne, yeah apparently the hardware on the S3 only likes 16 bit words, so its twice as slow if it has to do 24
[03:29] <bruenig> gabriela, what does it say when you try to sudo mv it
[03:29] <gortba_> ok thanks everyone.
[03:29] <shatrat> gortba_, IDE is basically a text editor that checks syntax and has a Compile button.
[03:29] <gabriela> let me see
[03:30] <gortba_> ahh I see
[03:30] <Bourne> shatrat: one thing I want to get rid of.. animations windows
[03:30] <Mhz> I did here's the output: http://rafb.net/p/wMZidH81.html
[03:30] <ummagumma> daveyarusso>> excuse guy, but did you try wvdial?!
[03:30] <juano__> bimberi: seemed to work! thanks
[03:30] <billybob> !paste
[03:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:30] <Bourne> shatrat: getting rid of it would really improve more
[03:30] <bimberi> juano__: cool, np :)
[03:30] <valehru_> Hey guys, does anyone here have experience using vmware?  I keep getting the error: Failed to construct 3-D rendering backend.  The 3-D features of the display card will be disabled.
[03:30] <gabriela> says that the files is missing
[03:30] <jvai> aight ppl.. i'm ghost
[03:30] <juano__> bimberi: problem was i installed enlightenment and set Entrance as default , so now with this i could select kdm , gdm or entrance and re-selected gdm
[03:30] <Trini_Man> Terminus : thanks man
[03:31] <juano__> bimberi: thanks
[03:31] <bruenig> Mhz, try doing sudo apt-get remove samba, then sudo apt-get install samba
[03:31] <gortba_> shatrat, I can just download both build essential and jgrasp from the repository--and they'll work together?
[03:31] <unop> Mhz,  try doing this -- sudo rm -rf /etc/rc2.d/K09samba
[03:31] <Trini_Man> and the other person that helped me
[03:31] <gabriela> bruenig: says that the file is missing
[03:31] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, Yes.  wvdial actually does some strange things as well, which is probably related.  It asks for a password on two different occasions, and on the second, hangs.  If the pw is provided in the conf file, it connects, then drops it, and hangs later.
[03:31] <Trini_Man> u guys are life savers !!!
[03:31] <bruenig> gabriela, where is the file you are trying to move located, and where are you trying to move it
[03:31] <shatrat> Bourne, animations window? Not sure wht that is.  Im the complete opposite direction of you, ive got composite desktop with water effects and shadows and wobbly windows etcetera
[03:32] <Bourne> shatrat: the maximizing effects.. animations
[03:32] <shatrat> gortba_, I dont know if jgrasp is in the repo, Im sure there are some IDEs though, and I bet theres plenty of guides
[03:32] <rj__> Yes, lifesavers.  Thanks, guys.
[03:32] <ummagumma> what modem you use?!
[03:32] <Terminus> Trini_Man: i don't think you were referring to me. =P
[03:32] <llama32> is there something lighter than openoffice that will read .doc files?
[03:32] <shatrat> Bourne, Ill see if I can find out how to do that.  Never tried
[03:32] <Mhz> nope, it won't do: http://rafb.net/p/mQ4jgd55.html
[03:32] <unop> llama32,  !abiword
[03:32] <shatrat> llama32, abiword?
[03:32] <dude_> hello does anyone know a good alternative to quuick books
[03:32] <shatrat> i lose
[03:32] <bruenig> llama32, I like abiword. It's .doc ability is suspect occasionally but it does well enough
[03:32] <gortba_> Cool. Thanks shatrat. You guys are great.
[03:32] <gortba_> going to experiment now.
[03:32] <bruenig> dude_, what is quick books
[03:32] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, It's the internal winmodem on a Dell Inspiron 5100.  Not sure what the exact modem is offhand.
[03:33] <Bourne> shatrat: they say you cant do that in metacity
[03:33] <tritium> bruenig: accounting software
[03:33] <francois> anyone familiar with ssh, and how to set it up ? i need a quick run down
[03:33] <gabriela> the file is the desktop
[03:33] <unop> Mhz,  sudo sh -c "rm -rf /etc/rc2.d/K09samba; aptitude remove samba; aptitude install samba"
[03:33] <tritium> !ssh > francois
[03:33] <bruenig> !gnucash
[03:33] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2014 kB, installed size 6388 kB
[03:33] <gabriela> this is the name of the file tuxbsdxp.xpm.gz
[03:33] <Bourne> shatrat: how do I switch to xfce?
[03:33] <dude_> bruenig: yes
[03:33] <francois> tritium: i read that whole thing, i still don't understand the keys thing
[03:33] <ummagumma> well, i think this modem have support from the driver, otherwise you cannot connect
[03:33] <unop> gabriela,  where is it located tho?
[03:34] <bruenig> gabriela, and it its going where exactly?
[03:34] <ummagumma> my modem is a hsp56mr...
[03:34] <ummagumma> but it works!
[03:34] <shatrat> Bourne, well, if you log out and click on the button in the lower left you can choose it as a session, and then log back in.  I think ive found a way to disable animations though
[03:34] <tritium> francois: you don't _need_ to generate keys
[03:34] <gabriela> i want to move it to the boo/grub folder
[03:34] <dude_> tritium: do you have any suggestion
[03:34] <Bourne> shatrat: what really annoys me in GNOME is that, a window never opens where you are looking at... it always opens where your not expecting...
[03:34] <gabriela> in order to change the splash boot image
[03:34] <tritium> dude_: for a quick books replacement?  Nope, sorry.
[03:34] <Bourne> shatrat: what is the way to disable it?
[03:34] <francois> tritium: woah, ok now i'm really confused, if i just want ssh to run on bootup, with a password, how do i get it done ? i thought it needed a passphrase or a key or something
[03:35] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, Yeah, the driver should be fine, since it does actually dial and such, and it does connect via the network-admin (I'm on this machine atm actually).  In short, I need to find out what configuration options are being sent when doing the n-a method so I can compare them to my wvdial.conf.
[03:35] <shatrat> Bourne, hah.  Well I use Beryl and it is pretty good about placing things intelligently, but it would make your system run at about 2 frames per second
[03:35] <shatrat> Bourne, in gconf-editor  (launch in terminal) you can change it
[03:35] <bruenig> gabriela, ok then open a terminal and do the following,  tar xf ~/Desktop/tuxbsdxp.xpm.gz && sudo mv ~/Desktop/tuxbsdxp.xpm /boot/grub
[03:35] <dude_> tritium: thank you
[03:35] <Flannel> francois: you want ssh to run, as in, the client?
[03:35] <shatrat> Banstick?
[03:35] <Mhz> unop & bruenig : it worked! thanks a lot guys!!
[03:35] <BlueEagle> francois: You want to automatically log into a secure shell server using a password on boot?
[03:35] <ummagumma> ok, that's all to do
[03:35] <BlueEagle> francois: Or do you want the shell server to start at boot?
[03:35] <bruenig> Mhz, which one was it, the rm or the apt-get remove for future reference
[03:35] <Bourne> shatrat: ok, there in gconf
[03:36] <tritium> francois: oh, you didn't explain what you're trying to do...
[03:36] <bruenig> or did you do both
[03:36] <gabriela> says that is does not apperd to be a tar file
[03:36] <norty> can someone help me? I have a file that has a character in the name that ubuntu doesn't recognize, I need to copy this file to a ipod, how do I get it to copy?
[03:36] <DLB|Maximus> im having a problem with the ubuntu installer @ prepare mount partitions, its telling me "no root file system" i have clearly selected "/" at hda6 with size of 6gb, any ideas?
[03:36] <shatrat> Bourne, the key you want to change is in Desktop/Gnome/Interface
[03:36] <gabriela> ok let me get to dinner
[03:36] <gabriela> be right back
[03:36] <francois> BlueEagle: i want the server to run on boot, so that i can log into my system from school, over ssh, with a simple password login, like i have now
[03:36] <gabriela> thanks
[03:36] <shatrat> Bourne, its called enable_animations
[03:36] <Mhz> I tried everything you told me to try, in order. the last one was: sudo sh -c "rm -rf /etc/rc2.d/K09samba; aptitude remove samba; aptitude install samba"
[03:36] <unop> francois,  http://www.snailbook.com/faq/no-passphrase.auto.html
[03:36] <shatrat> Bourne, and after that I promise Ill let you try xfce
[03:37] <Flannel> francois: the openssh server, once installed, will run automatically
[03:37] <rabican> ls
[03:37] <Bourne> shatrat: LOL....
[03:37] <bruenig> two variables, bad scientific method
[03:37] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, Do you happen to know what command the "Enable" button runs?  If I can do that directly from a terminal I'll be able to see the exact output.
[03:37] <francois> Flannel: on boot ? without login ? liek if i just leave it at the login screen ?
[03:37] <Bourne> shatrat: ok why the calculator opens like there in the corner of the window.. and not in the center... is this a GNOME thing?
[03:37] <BlueEagle> francois: The secure shell server should start at boot by default.
[03:37] <noodles12>  in konquerer my tools menu is empty/blank. How do i get it back so i can fake the browser ID to be IE?
[03:37] <Flannel> francois: right.  It'll start before X even starts
[03:38] <BlueEagle> francois: To make sure you can install rcconf and check.
[03:38] <shatrat> Bourne, well, there are different algorithms for deciding where to place new windows.  I dont know if it is configurable for metacity (the window manager of gnome)
[03:38] <Bourne> ok
[03:38] <francois> Flannel: sweet, ok, so i can just login with my regular ID and password ? no need to create new ones ?
[03:38] <Bourne> shatrat: thanks anyway
[03:38] <Bourne> shatrat: many thanks
[03:38] <Flannel> francois: that's correct
[03:38] <ummagumma> i just type "wvdial" on a ternimal section, and all the commands are displayed
[03:38] <shatrat> Bourne, no problem, have fun
[03:38] <francois> Flannel: ok awsome
[03:38] <blenna_unix> if i do a "ln file1 /apps/file1" will the command copy the file from the current directory to /apps/file1?
[03:38] <BlueEagle> francois: That is correct.
[03:38] <ummagumma> your connection is tone or pulse based?!
[03:38] <unop> francois,  do you want the server to start up, or the client connecting to another machine?
[03:38] <francois> unop: thanks for the link, its a good one, i'll make sure to read it
[03:39] <francois> unop: server to start
[03:39] <unop> francois,  ahh, thats started auto
[03:39] <Flannel> francois: just make sure you port forward correctly,  you probably want to try it once to make sure you've got everything setup, while you still at home
[03:39] <francois> unop: so i can putty to my computer from school
[03:39] <unop> francois,  flannel read your mind :)
[03:39] <francois> Wicked, thanks everyone, i've been fiddling for hours with this
[03:39] <BlueEagle> francois: Make sure that the firewall at your school doesn't block port 22 tho.
[03:39] <__mikem> well, I am done setting up edgy, and I love it so far. ITs the best ubuntu yet. Kudos to the guys at Cannonical
[03:40] <BlueEagle> francois: You won't get anywhere if that's the case.
[03:40] <BlueEagle> :)
[03:40] <hartsantler> i just installed ubuntu edgy, and am dual booting with Windows Vista, i used the resize partion option, but now Vista hangs when i try to boot it, what should i do?
[03:40] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, Not sure about tone or pulse.  And yes, running wvdial in a terminal will show all of the commands, but it doesn't work.  The other thing works, but I don't know what it's doing.
[03:40] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[03:40] <francois> BlueEagle: i use a live cd in that case, :)
[03:40] <posingaspopular> remove vista ;)
[03:40] <__mikem> lol @ posingaspopular
[03:40] <ljlolel> okay, so, wireless networking.. i set up ndiswrapper as instructed by many forums/websites... but now my wireless card isn't showing up as a device (wlan0 or eth1).... it used to be eth1, but now that has disappeared
[03:40] <unop> BlueEagle,  francois could port forward a different port to port 22 on his server, that ought to work
[03:40] <SpamKids> hello humans people: my cursor sometimes blinking on X11/KDE... is possible to improve it?
[03:41] <ummagumma> maybe your wvdial config file is wrong, about the tone or pulse option
[03:41] <BlueEagle> unop: Yes that would probably work.
[03:41] <blenna_unix> can someone explain how links work? if i do a "ln file1 file2" will that command copy the file again?
[03:41] <Flannel> BlueEagle, francois, unop, if it does block 22, change the port on your ssh server.  You may want to anyway, as it'll eliminate nearly all hack attempts as well
[03:42] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell blenna_unix about man
[03:42] <Flannel> before I changed mine I had huge auth.logs, full of crack attempts
[03:42] <shatrat> blenna_unix, ln creates links
[03:42] <ummagumma> to know what type connection you have, ypu can look at your phone device, try to look
[03:42] <SpamKids> hello humans people: my cursor sometimes blinking on X11/KDE... is possible to improve it?
[03:42] <ljlolel> blenna_unix, no, that just creates another "label" to the same memory address on your harddrive
[03:42] <shatrat> blenna_unix, if you want to copy file1, use cp file1 file2
[03:42] <LjL> !repeat | SpamKids
[03:42] <ubotu> SpamKids: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:42] <ummagumma> these configs are important
[03:42] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, I'll try swapping that.  Since obviously this requires disconnecting to futz with, any other things I should try while I'm at it?
[03:42] <__mikem> !repeat | SpamKids
[03:42] <unop> Flannel,  i'd rather get the portforwarder forward another port like 2222 to 22 on the ssh server .. that way, on the LAN you could use normal port 22 and 2222 from the outside
[03:42] <PwcrLinux> How I can find which driver loaded in for a ATI mobility 7500 (hopefully should have 9000's driver), after upgraded the kernel, the FF and DVD player much slower, is there possiblity video issues?
[03:42] <ljlolel> blenna_unix, you'll almost always want to create only symbolic links... ln -s, to copy use cp
[03:43] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, What do you mean by look at your phone device?
[03:43] <ummagumma> excuse, i mean you may look to your phone
[03:43] <shatrat> PwcrLinux, glxinfo | grep string
[03:43] <SpamKids> __mikem: hello! do you want that I repeat?
[03:43] <SpamKids> __mikem: sorry for my poor English
[03:43] <__mikem> No
[03:43] <PwcrLinux> okay shatrat hang on
[03:43] <SpamKids> __mikem: can you help me?
[03:43] <__mikem> I don't, I was trying to trigger the info bot
[03:43] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell spamkids about repeat
[03:44] <SpamKids> __mikem: repeat or not?? O_o sorry
[03:44] <blenna_unix> so the "ln file1 file2" command will only creates links, but when i do a "ls" command, it appears the file has been copied.
[03:44] <LjL> SpamKids: no
[03:44] <DLB|Maximus> im having trouble installing 6.10 @ preparing mount points, its telling me "no root file system" though i have selected "/" for partition hda6, anyone have any ideas whats wrong?
[03:44] <__mikem> LjL are you in offtopic at the moment?
[03:44] <SpamKids> __mikem: well, if you want that I repeat, I repeat: hello humans people: my cursor sometimes blinking on X11/KDE... is possible to improve it?
[03:44] <posingaspopular> DLB|Maximus: yea i can help
[03:44] <PwcrLinux> shatrat: Okay which line will be?
[03:44] <unop> blenna_unix,  ln on its own creates a hardlink which is not a shortcut -- you need ln -s .. ln -s file file2
[03:44] <ljlolel> blenna_unix, it just creates another pointer, tit doesn't copy the actual bits
[03:45] <posingaspopular> can you meet me in #flood though?
[03:45] <BlueEagle> spamkids: Please read the message ubotu spits out. Thank you.
[03:45] <DLB|Maximus> posingaspopular: why there?
[03:45] <posingaspopular> it's easier for me, too many things going on in here
[03:45] <SpamKids> I'm sorry, what?
[03:45] <ummagumma> daveyarusso, find something?
[03:45] <unop> blenna_unix,  ln creates hardlinks which means that multiple filenames can point to the same file .. in your instance, if you edited "file2", the changes would be seen in "file"
[03:45] <LjL> SpamKids: do NOT repeat. ask your question ONE time.
[03:45] <shatrat> PwcrLinux, well, sadly im not entirely sure what it Should say, since I dont use the open source driver.   I should have thought of that before.
[03:45] <SpamKids> I have a little problem... I don't know, all was closed
[03:46] <daveyarusso> ummagumma, Not really.  Looking at some possibly relevant wiki pages while I'm connected to see if there's anything enlightening.
[03:46] <SpamKids> LjL: I'm sorry. Do you is human?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell spamkids about de
[03:46] <BlueEagle> !de
[03:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:46] <shooters> How can I count the number of subfolders in a specific folder?
[03:46] <ummagumma> ok
[03:46] <unop> shooters,  ls -1 /path/ | wc -l
[03:46] <PwcrLinux> shatrat: want go into prvmsg for look at it?
[03:46] <LjL> BlueEagle: i don't understand.
[03:46] <SpamKids> __mikem: are you human?
[03:46] <shatrat> PwcrLinux, sure, join #shatrat, thats where my posse gathers
[03:46] <PwcrLinux> okay
[03:46] <unop> shooters,  oops -- find /path -type d | wc -l
[03:46] <BlueEagle> ljl: ?
[03:46] <__mikem> No, I am a robot
[03:46] <BlueEagle> ljl: What do you not understand?
[03:47] <LjL> BlueEagle: err, sorry, was meant for sp amkids
[03:47] <LjL> SpamKids: why are you asking if we are human?
[03:47] <SpamKids> __mikem: hmmm. so, it's explainded
[03:47] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell spamkids about es
[03:47] <amorphous_> unop, shooters; not ls -l /path/ |grep ^d|wc -l
[03:47] <BlueEagle> spamkids: Please read the messaages ubotu sends you.
[03:47] <SpamKids> LjL: because the Ubuntu prhase is "for humans beign"
[03:47] <__mikem> I spy with my little eyes a troll
[03:47] <BlueEagle> spamkids: I am not sure what language you speak tho.
[03:47] <blenna_unix> unop: ok. the reason i ask is that my samba directory has several a large files i want to publish to /var/www, im concerned that the "ln" command copied the actual bits of these files
[03:48] <LjL> SpamKids, is your language spanish? if yes, probably you will be more lucky in #ubuntu-es
[03:48] <SpamKids> BlueEagle: Portuguese, why?
[03:48] <forQed> What is the best for burning ISO files, Gnomebaker, Nero, x-CD Roast, or K3B?
[03:48] <LjL> SpamKids: because your english is a bit hard to understand -- no offence.
[03:48] <unop> blenna_unix, well, to say it has "copied" would be a misnomer -- but you can delete the new hardlinks in /var/www and you should be ok
[03:48] <SpamKids> LjL: I'm sorry, I don't had lucky on #ubuntu-br...
[03:48] <BlueEagle> spamkids: Because your english is bad and thus you might try a support channel that uses your own language.
[03:48] <BlueEagle> !bt
[03:48] <unop> amorphous_,  come again?
[03:48] <BlueEagle> !pt
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:48] <LjL> eeew BlueEagle, you're spamming more than him :P
[03:48] <SpamKids> ubotu: de nada. you are welcome
[03:49] <BlueEagle> ljl: Sorry, I mis-placed my fingers. :)
[03:49] <__mikem> SpamKids, ubotu is only a robot
[03:49] <SpamKids> __mikem: and you?
[03:49] <__mikem> I am human
[03:49] <__mikem> bye
[03:49] <LjL> SpamKids: and you are a troll
[03:49] <__mikem> nothlit, ljl just took him out
[03:50] <nothlit> :O
[03:51] <forQed> In Gnomebaker, what does the option "Burnfree" mean?
[03:51] <blenna_unix> unop & others: thank you
[03:52] <BlueEagle> forqed: Burnfree is a buffer under run protection feature offered by your cd/dvd burner.
[03:52] <BlueEagle> forqed: You want it enabled.
[03:52] <forQed> BlueEagle: thanks!
[03:52] <amorphous_> unop - shooters wanted to know how to count the subfolders in a folder... i was asking if you should run it through grep ^d to just cound the lines starting with 'd' for directory... is that right?
[03:52] <Mhz> hi again everyone, I have a network problem: my computer and my gf's are connected to a hub and can't ping each other.
[03:52] <unop> amorphous_,  ahh, ok, yea yea, thats right -- i didnt really understand what you said before
[03:53] <BlueEagle> mhz: How do the two machines obtain IP-adresses?
[03:53] <Mhz> it looks like a netmask issue but I wouldn't know how to solve it
[03:53] <Mhz> dhcp I think
[03:53] <noodles12>  in konquerer my tools menu is empty/blank. How do i get it back so i can fake the browser ID to be IE?
[03:53] <Mhz> they are both connected to the net through a dsl modem
[03:54] <shooters> amorphous_: you need ls -lR ....  since I asked in all subdirectories,
[03:54] <Mhz> both have a dynamic IP
[03:54] <BlueEagle> mhz: Well if they both obtain ip-addresses from the same dhcp server they should have the same netmask.
[03:54] <BlueEagle> mhz: Is the modem connected to the same hub?
[03:54] <amorphous_> shooters - respect! ;)
[03:54] <Mhz> yes, the 2 computers are connected to the hub, which in turn is connected to the modem
[03:54] <unop> shooters,  the find command i gave you would do the same too
[03:55] <BlueEagle> mhz: Which firewall are the two machines using?
[03:55] <shooters> unop: yes, worked fine... thanks
[03:55] <gabriela> hi is me again want to change the boot screen
[03:55] <forQed> So today I got a Samba share working between VMware and Ubuntu, I think that is the bee's knees
[03:55] <gabriela> but i can not extract the file to /boot/grub
[03:55] <Mhz> my computer is not using any and gf's (running win xp) isn't either
[03:56] <gabriela> i dont have permisions
[03:56] <unop> gabriela,  you need the right permissions -- how are you extracting files there?
[03:56] <gabriela> im trying but i cant
[03:56] <ljlolel> OKay, I have a wireless card (Broadcom), how do I make it appear as a network interface? (eth1 or wlan0 or w/e)
[03:56] <BlueEagle> mhz: Ok. On your linux machine start a terminal and run: ifconfig |grep "inet a"
[03:56] <gabriela> thanks unop for your help
[03:56] <BlueEagle> mhz: That should normally return one line.
[03:57] <Mhz> BlueEagle: sorry, she has the windows firewall enabled, but that should not block the ping command, right?
[03:57] <gabriela> unop: im just trying to folllow the directions from a webpage
[03:57] <BlueEagle> mhz: I would not know.
[03:57] <ljlolel> Right now, my only interfaces are lo and eth0 (the wired network), but i can't make my wireless card appear again after installing ndiwrapper --- even though I could see it before
[03:57] <gabriela> i want to change the grub splash image
[03:57] <BlueEagle> mhz: Did you get the IP and the netmask of your linux box?
[03:58] <gabriela> unop: are you there?
[03:58] <Mhz> BlueEagle: http://rafb.net/p/6pKEyU15.html
[03:58] <elin> ??
[03:58] <nikin_> hy
[03:58] <norty> can someone help me please? im trying to copy a folder from my hd to an ipod and the folder has a character not recognized by ubuntu in the name, how do I copy this file?
[03:58] <unop> gabriela,  i'm here yes, show me the page and section and i'll help you out
[03:58] <unop> hey again norty :)
[03:58] <gabriela> http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/#1.0
[03:59] <gabriela> this is the web page
[03:59] <norty> hey unop, i almost got everything off, cept this one file
[03:59] <gavagai> I have a headless ubuntu box that isn't accepting SSH connections from the internet.  port 22 is forwarded on my router.  what should i check?  i haven't used this box in awhile, but as I remember it used to work no problem
[03:59] <gabriela> in the section 1, 1.0 and 1.1
[03:59] <unop> gabriela,  cool, now which section?
[03:59] <unop> gabriela,  ok :)
[03:59] <gavagai> i've confirmed it accepts from inside the LAN, i'm logged in now
[03:59] <nikin_> is there  a lighter ubuntu distro than Xubuntu? i was trying to get the RAM usage of Xubuntu down... but i couldnt get it below 100 Megs (Without any production apps running) :(
[03:59] <BlueEagle> mhz: Ehh.. Hmm.. You have got a point-to-point connection set up on your linux box. Is your linux box connected to the modem?
[04:00] <gortba_> shatrat, you still here?
[04:00] <shatrat> gortba_, yes
[04:00] <Mhz> BlueEagle: not directly, but through the hub
[04:00] <unop> norty,  have you tried renaming the file at the command line -- use the tab to complete it -- and then quote it -- e.g. mv file<TAB> ( ..after completion..)   mv "file_with??characters" /new/path/
[04:00] <marshall> hey guys
[04:00] <calamari> hi
[04:01] <norty> tab doesnt work to complete it
[04:01] <marshall> does anybody know how to get rid of that page outline in inkscape? i just want to design little graphics, not a whole page spread or anything
[04:01] <BlueEagle> mhz: I see. Well then I need to know the make and model of your ADSL modem.
[04:01] <BlueEagle> mhz: And just to make sure: Is the winXP box able to connect to the internet?
[04:01] <gavagai> duh, fixed it...
[04:01] <gavagai> who installed firestarter on here!?!  :)
[04:01] <gortba_> hi. umm I downloaded jgrasp into my /usr/local then added a link in /usr/bin to the executable, but I can't seem to run it. Can you tell me how to install this thing properly?
[04:01] <calamari> marshall: yeah you can get rid of it
[04:02] <marshall> calamari: how
[04:02] <shatrat> gortba_, if you run "which jgrasp" or whatever the name of the link is, does it return jgrasp?
[04:02] <unop> gabriela,  i'm sorry, i dont see where it asks to extract files -- which line is it on ?
[04:02] <unop> norty,  have you tried copying using the GUI ?
[04:02] <calamari> marshall: sorry, was afk.. back now
[04:03] <f> 24
[04:03] <gabriela> in instruccions 1.1 I have my image, now what?
[04:03] <marshall> calamari: ok
[04:03] <norty> yep doesnt work
[04:03] <f> was anyone watching 24?
[04:03] <calamari> marshall: opening the app so I can tell you right
[04:03] <f> lol
[04:03] <gortba_> shatrat. yes
[04:03] <norty> unop: yep doesnt work
[04:03] <marshall> its open
[04:03] <marshall> calamari: its open
[04:03] <gabriela> unop: 1.1 I have my image, now what?
[04:03] <calamari> marshall: I mean on my computer.. hehe
[04:03] <marshall> calamari: lol ok
[04:03] <unop> gabriela, ok, this might be easier -- but be careful this -- launch a root shell -- sudo -i ... you should be able to go on now without any problems
[04:04] <calamari> marshall: okay, go to File : Document Properties
[04:04] <shatrat> gortba_, but just running "jgrasp" doesnt do anything?
[04:04] <gortba_> actually--it gives me an error
[04:04] <calamari> marshall: uncheck "Show page Border".. hit ok
[04:04] <unop> norty,  errm, is it the only file left in the directory?
[04:04] <norty> nope
[04:04] <marshall> calamari: lol thats it?
[04:04] <calamari> marshall: err actually I guess you just close it
[04:04] <norty> since i cant delete files or folders
[04:04] <calamari> yes
[04:04] <shatrat> gortba_, what error?
[04:04] <gortba_> shatrat here's the error:  Error at jGRASP startup:
[04:04] <gortba_> Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[04:04] <marshall> calamari: ok, thanks
[04:04] <marshall> xD
[04:04] <gabriela> unop: i did that now what?
[04:04] <shatrat> gortba_, stand by
[04:05] <gortba_> thanks
[04:05] <unop> gabriela,  continue on from where you were last :)
[04:05] <unop> norty,  well, ok, hold on
[04:06] <gabriela> do i have to put the dots
[04:06] <norty> ok
[04:06] <unop> gabriela,  just this -- sudo -i
[04:06] <calamari> I've heard that the amd64 ubuntu might include slightly less packages than x86 (for example I heard there is no flash player).  packages.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to have a setting for that.. how can I find out what packages that amd64 ubuntu has available?
[04:06] <gabriela> i did that
[04:06] <kintaro0e> hello guys..how to set the path of JAVA_HOME in /etc/profile?
[04:07] <gabriela> but when i try to extract the files it says the same no permisions
[04:07] <calamari> kintaro0e: export JAVA_HOME=...
[04:07] <Pie-rate> Why can't I start more than one instance of sound juicer? I have 4 drives to rip from.
[04:07] <unop> norty, where does this file exist? the location
[04:07] <Pie-rate> Is there a better utility than sound juicer?
[04:07] <norty> ~/Desktop/folder
[04:07] <unop> gabriela,  ok, how are you extracting file to this location?
[04:07] <calamari> kintaro0e: disregard that, misread your question
[04:07] <gabriela> unop: how can i strart file roller with sudo permisions?
[04:08] <barata> how to convert ppt to avi in linux?
[04:08] <gabriela> unop: yeap
[04:08] <unop> gabriela,  sudo file-roller :)
[04:08] <barata> or ppt (oo impress) to mpeg
[04:08] <gabriela> ok
[04:08] <nevron> people i need help with the sound drivers in ubuntu 6.10
[04:08] <gabriela> let me try that way
[04:08] <unop> norty,  copying over to ~/Desktop/folder2 ??
[04:08] <BlueEagle> mhz: Ok. Since you didn't get back to me I'm going to bed. What you need to try is to set up your adsl modem to act as a router. It seems that it does not do so by default. Alternately you can set up your linux box as a router for your gf-s computer. That will require an additional network card.
[04:08] <unop> gabriela,  actuall this is better - gksudo file-roller
[04:08] <BlueEagle> ...and on that note I bid you all a good night.
[04:08] <kismet> Can anyone help me connect my cellphone?
[04:09] <Pie-rate> Why can't I start more than one instance of sound juicer? I have 4 drives to rip from and only 1 CPU is being used. Is there a better utility?
[04:09] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:09] <kintaro0e> calamari thanks
[04:09] <norty> ill try
[04:09] <unop> norty,  cd ~/Desktop/folder; perl -le 'opendir D,"."; print `mv -v "$_" /new/path `for readdir D'
[04:09] <norty> whats that do
[04:09] <shatrat> gortba_, what language did you settle on trying first btw?
[04:09] <calamari> kintaro0e: oh, was that what you needed?  okay cool
[04:10] <gortba_> which language?
[04:10] <gortba_> C++
[04:10] <unop> norty,  its a fancy mv command -- but this takes into consideration the odd character -- the only problem is it still keeps that character
[04:10] <gabriela> unop: thats it i did it now i can continue with the step 2 thanks a lot
[04:10] <gortba_> but build essential supports almost everything right?
[04:10] <nevron> when i start ubuntu xmms works and plays only one song and when that song finishes it throws an error and the playback stops
[04:11] <shatrat> gortba_, to get jgrasp running youre gonna have to get some java dependencies taken care of, there are other IDEs in the repositores though.  Try searching for "development environment"
[04:12] <gortba_> shatrat, cool thanks again! I'll have a look
[04:12] <Pie-rate> is there any way I could force sound juicer to let me run multiple instances?
[04:12] <shatrat> gortba_, theres one called "geany" that might be good for starters.
[04:12] <unop> gortba_,  another good c/c++ IDE is !anjuta
[04:12] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:12] <gortba_> ok thanks, I'll give them a try
[04:12] <unop> gabriela,  :)
[04:13] <calamari> Pie-rate: I've never really used sound juicer.. I like grip, but I dunno how it would react either
[04:13] <gabriela> unop: now i have to figth with the next step
[04:13] <Pie-rate> calamari: trying grip
[04:14] <gravemind> hi all
[04:14] <gravemind> how can I improve my boot time?
[04:14] <calamari> can I run x86 apps under amd64 ubuntu?
[04:14] <samuel> sup all
[04:14] <unop> gabriela,  :) i know those instrcutions arent really for a beginner, but you'll learn a lot and quick here :)
[04:14] <gravemind> I assume I can disable some modules somewhere or something that will make it boot faster
[04:14] <cchanc1> Is their any open source sms voting application that uses internet gateways?
[04:14] <samuel> anyone know if i can get a prebuilt deb with python 2.5 on ubuntu?
[04:15] <gabriela> unop: im a beginnner
[04:15] <unop> calamari,  sure , use a 32bit chrooted environment
[04:15] <calamari> gravemind: which part is slow?  doesn't do any good to disable modules if that's not the slow part
[04:15] <gabriela> and i really apreciete your time and help
[04:15] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:15] <unop> gabriela,  no worries, you're welcome :)
[04:15] <Spragie`> Does anyone have experience with alsa?
[04:15] <gravemind> calamari: the part after grub where it says "ubuntu" and there's a bar that shows the loading
[04:16] <calamari> unop: would I be able to run X apps that way?
[04:16] <unop> calamari,  certainly
[04:16] <cchanc1> !sms
[04:16] <gabriela> unop: can you tell me what does this mean? 2. Edit your GRUB config file (aka /etc/GRUB.conf) and add this line:
[04:16] <gabriela> splashimage=(hd0,0)/GRUB/myfile.xpm.gz
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <Spragie`> I have a ad1986a audio chipset onboard and i have installed alsa drivers/lib/utils and i am still not able to get sound, does anyone have any suggestions?
[04:16] <cchanc1> !sm
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <Spragie`> !ad1986a
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ad1986a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <gravemind> Spragie: see if you can search google for linux drivers for your type of sound hardware
[04:17] <unop> gabriela, errm, hold on a second
[04:17] <gabriela> ok
[04:17] <gravemind> spragie: that's what I did, and I lucked out
[04:17] <calamari> unop: how would I do that?  I can create a chroot.. that's not a problem, but I'm not sure how the X part would work
[04:17] <Spragie`> gravemind it worked for u?
[04:18] <cchanc1> !cell
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <gravemind> Spragie: I was in a similar situation. I had realtek onboard sound, which didn't work out of the box, but I found drivers through google
[04:18] <Spragie`> gravemind my card isnt showing up in /proc/interrupts
[04:18] <unop> gabriela,  i think you might find this much more helpful -- it's in clear to understand english and you have the instructions there too 0 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:18] <Spragie`> gravemind i used google...found drivers and shit but still nothing
[04:18] <unop> calamari,  can i give you a link?
[04:18] <cchanc1> Is their any open source sms voting application that uses internet gateways?
[04:18] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:19] <unop> !chroot | calamari
[04:19] <ubotu> calamari: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:19] <calamari> unop: sure, that'd be great
[04:19] <calamari> unop: thanks a lot
[04:19] <gravemind> Spragie`: sorry then, I don't know. I tried to install another distro on this same computer and I wasn't able to get sound work
[04:19] <gabriela> let me check it
[04:20] <gravemind> calamari: any suggestions about improving boot time?
[04:20] <cchanc1> Can WINE applications use the internet
[04:20] <calamari> gravemind: sorry, I must have missed your response to my question.. which part of the boot is slow?
[04:20] <frogzoo> cchanc1: look at kannel might be of interest for sms - wine uses stock routing
[04:20] <yell0w> gravemind, get rid of unneeded services at boot time
[04:20] <gravemind> calamari: the splash screen
[04:20] <calamari> gravemind: oh, I see it now
[04:21] <gbrent> can anyone point me in the right direction to get help with anope for ircd? Is there an IRC channel for it? thnxs
[04:21] <gabriela> im mixed up
[04:21] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:21] <gabriela> unop: im now mixedup
[04:21] <gabriela> i think is better to let it like it is
[04:21] <cchanc1> frogzoo, stock routing?
[04:21] <gravemind> yell0w: would that help speed up the splash screen, because that's the part that's slow] 
[04:21] <frogzoo> cchanc1: standard ip
[04:21] <Ins|de> i there, i have no sund in my ubuntu, i cannot ear nothing, what should i do ?
[04:21] <cchanc1> frogzoo, Kannel what can i use though to make it ablt to recive sms
[04:21] <unop> gabriela,  errm, which part do you find confusing?
[04:21] <calamari> gravemind: well, afaik that splash screen hides two things.. the kernel booting, and the /etc/rc script actions
[04:22] <gabriela> unop: everything lol
[04:22] <cchanc1> frogzoo, so they *can* connect?
[04:22] <unop> gabriela,  its better this way, the olderway will probably have you going all evening
[04:22] <calamari> gravemind: in my experience, the kernel boots pretty quickly.. I doubt that is your problem
[04:22] <gabriela> now what i dont know what is edgy and what dapper
[04:22] <unop> gabriela,  he he .. errm, ok, in the old manual, how far have you gotten to now? upto which step>?
[04:23] <gravemind> calamari: I have a lot of folders in /etc called "rc*.d"
[04:23] <gabriela> unop: just extract the image to the boot/grub folder
[04:23] <calamari> gravemind: one min, there is an app you might want to check out, need to find the exact package name
[04:23] <cchanc1> frogzoo, nvm i guess i dont need it that bad
[04:23] <unop> gabriela,  edgy and dapper are versions of ubuntu - you can check yours by this command - cat /etc/release
[04:23] <unop> !version
[04:23] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:23] <unop> gabriela,  or ^^
[04:24] <calamari> gravemind: package is called "bum"
[04:24] <jonw> god I hate ATI, nvidia+beryl+wine = no worries, same thing with a radeon ... ARGHHHHH!
[04:24] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a command that will let me look at the files that make up a .deb files, without installing the .deb?
[04:24] <gravemind> calamari- I remember on dapper, it showed you what was going on while it booted, is there some way to hide the splash screen at boot?
[04:24] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:24] <unop> gabriela,  ok, looks like it's safe and you can continue on using the second manual
[04:24] <calamari> gravemind: I don't know.  I've upgrades all the way from warty, and I do not have a splash screen
[04:25] <gravemind> cool, how do you not have one?
[04:25] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  use ar to extract files from it -- ar -x file.deb
[04:25] <calamari> gravemind: so there is probably some package you have that I don't
[04:25] <calamari> gravemind: are you installing bum?
[04:25] <linuxor> Hi, I wana make compilation, but I got error : No package 'gtk+-2.0' found and 'libglade-2.0', I've done build-essential , and didn't find'm using synaptic, so Please what to do ?
[04:25] <frogzoo> Dev-: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - remove the 'quiet' params
[04:25] <gabriela> what is the secnond manual?
[04:25] <gravemind> yes, it's just installed
[04:25] <P235> has anyone ever tried using password managers?  If so, what do you do when you're using a computer other than the one you normally use?  <---- clearly a dummy
[04:25] <calamari> gravemind: it is called Boot-Up Manager in the menu
[04:26] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Thanks!
[04:26] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:26] <gravemind> calamari: which menu?
[04:26] <atrus> "xset dpms force off" and "xset dpms force standby" work fine, but gnome-screensaver/gnome-power-manager fail to shut off the screen. Any suggestions?
[04:26] <gravemind> nvm i see it
[04:26] <calamari> gravemind: system : administration
[04:26] <leafw> any clues on why ubuntu 64 alternate CD does not see my 4 HD as the raid10 that I configured them to be?
[04:26] <frogzoo> jonw: don't use wine inside beryl
[04:26] <leafw> do I have to pass flags to the kernel when installing?
[04:26] <unop> gabriela,  this one --https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[04:26] <gravemind> ok, I see some things I can probably uncheck
[04:27] <frogzoo> leafw: ordinarily, no
[04:27] <calamari> gravemind: ok first thing to do is to check the advanced box
[04:27] <leafw> frogzoo : excuse me?
[04:27] <gravemind> done
[04:27] <Spragie`> My onboard sound card came with linux drivers but i cannot get them to work, when put 'cat /proc/interrupts' it doesnt list my audio card any idea?
[04:27] <Spragie`> gravemind should stated that before
[04:27] <jonw> frogzoo: I'd live with either or at the moment or are you telling me to run wine inside a non-xgl session ?
[04:27] <gabriela> unop: ok i will check it
[04:27] <greywolf777> how do you upgrade versions without getting another cd?
[04:27] <frogzoo> jonw: bingo
[04:28] <gabriela> unop: want to know where are you from
[04:28] <jonw> frogzoo: ahhhh, that could be the bit I was missing lol
[04:28] <frogzoo> !upgrade | greywolf777
[04:28] <ubotu> greywolf777: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:28] <gravemind> Spragie`: I don't really know how I got mine to work, I had a lot of help from gurus
[04:28] <greywolf777> thsnks
[04:28] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:28] <gravemind> Spragie`: It had something to do with recompiling ALSA...
[04:28] <linuxor> Please, Hi, I wana make compilation, but I got error : No package 'gtk+-2.0' found and 'libglade-2.0', I've done build-essential , and didn't find'm using synaptic, so Please what to do ?
[04:28] <posingaspopular> Dev-: resolution?
[04:28] <Spragie`> yes i have done that
[04:29] <Dev-> native is 1280x1024.
[04:29] <jonw> frogzoo: ahaa .. you star ! :)
[04:29] <Dev-> but it doesn't even get to the splash screen.
[04:29] <unop> gabriela,  the UK
[04:29] <gabriela> unop: im from mexico
[04:30] <gravemind> Spragie`: I'm sorry I can't help you any more than that, I've only been using linux for 6 months
[04:30] <gabriela> thanks a lot for your help but i think im gonne let it like it is
[04:30] <frogzoo> jonw: yw
[04:30] <gravemind> calamari: the only obvious thing I saw that I could disable was the HP printing and imaging service
[04:30] <Dev-> i have an Intel 845GPL integrated graphics chip, which it recognizes, then it says screen configured incorrectly, no screens found, in the error details
[04:31] <norty> unop: did you figure out a way to copy the folder with the weird character or how to rename it?
[04:31] <unop> gabriela,  thats cool :) which part?
[04:31] <calamari> Spragie`: does it show up in lspci ?
[04:31] <unop> norty,  errm, i gave you the command didnt i?
[04:31] <gabriela> unop: Monterrey Mexico near from USA
[04:31] <norty> thats to move the folder whole that the file is in
[04:31] <norty> i cant do that, no space
[04:32] <linuxor> Hi,Pleaaaaase, I wana make compilation, but I got error : No package 'gtk+-2.0' found and 'libglade-2.0', I've done build-essential , and didn't find'm using synaptic, so Please what to do ?
[04:32] <unop> norty,  ok, whats the file named .. it doesnt matter about the weird character . i just need part of it
[04:32] <calamari> gravemind: yeah.. it all depends on your system
[04:32] <zackglennie> I need C headers: math.h, stdio.h, etc.  Where can I get them?
[04:32] <norty> DJ_Tiesto
[04:32] <norty> the e is the weird character
[04:32] <shatrat> zackglennie, sudo apt-get build-essential?
[04:32] <Dev-> i have an Intel 845GPL integrated graphics chip, which it recognizes, then it says screen configured incorrectly, no screens found, in the error details
[04:33] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:33] <calamari> zackglennie: they will be in /usr/include
[04:33] <Wimpog> GUYS, I just installed ubuntu server, and when it starts up, I do not see any messages. Like It should say "starting DHCP, starting mysql server, starting DNS, etc..." but it does not. ALSO, I cannot fine the 'inittab' file. Any ideas?
[04:33] <zackglennie> thanks
[04:33] <canine_kouji> oh right :)
[04:33] <unop> gabriela,  nice, must be nice, hot and sunny there now :) .. it's the opposite here :(
[04:33] <canine_kouji> I'm getting a ubuntu server set up, yip
[04:33] <gravemind> calamari: Ok. I wish I could hide the splash screen and see what's slowing it down though :)
[04:33] <daveyarusso> linuxor, most likely you lack -dev packages.  Try searching for things like gtk+-2.0-dev.
[04:33] <canine_kouji> I'd go FreeBSD, but I'm needing to use mono, and mono is so pathetic its only stable on linux for what I want to use
[04:33] <gabriela> unop: actually is cold
[04:33] <gravemind> anyone know how do hide the splash screen on boot?
[04:34] <canine_kouji> ubuntu server, dah dah dah dah dah
[04:34] <calamari> gravemind: well, let's see if we can figure it out.. might as well because when I install ubuntu on my new system it'll be there
[04:34] <daveyarusso> zackglennie, The apt-file utility is also good for locating things like that.
[04:34] <dooglus> norty: what's the file called?
[04:34] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:34] <zackglennie> daveyarusso: cool, I'll look into it sometime.
[04:34] <gravemind> calamari: in suse, you can press esc at the splash screen, and it shows you text of what's happening. maybe there's some key like that
[04:35] <zackglennie> Every time I install, I forget that g++ and other such things don't come standard.  I hadn't installed build-essential.
[04:35] <calamari> gravemind: sure, that's possible
[04:35] <daveyarusso> gravemind, Splash screen?  You mean the grub menu, your computer's manufacturer logo, usplash (the thing with the loading bar), or the gnome-splash?
[04:35] <calamari> gravemind: I have no idea though
[04:35] <dooglus> norty: you can rename it by putting a '*' instead of the 'funny' character:  mv fil*name newname
[04:35] <zackglennie> all: working now, thanks much!
[04:35] <calamari> daveyarusso: usplash.. thanks
[04:35] <gravemind> calamari: the thing with the loading bar (says ubuntu)
[04:35] <wezlo> has anyone in here compiled lirc modules successfully?
[04:35] <norty> ok let me try
[04:36] <gabriela> unop: i have to go i hope to see you again here and i think that the world need a lot of peapole like you, thanks
[04:36] <daveyarusso> gravemind, Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and remove the word "splash" from the kernel line.
[04:36] <calamari> gravemind: ahh, yes.. I don't have the usplash package installedf
[04:36] <gravemind> thanks guys
[04:36] <unop> gabriela,  definitely, you are welcome :)
[04:36] <calamari> gravemind: daveyarusso's suggestion is better than mine
[04:37] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:37] <unop> norty,  eh, i figured you would have tried what dooglus suggests .. let us know if it works
[04:37] <norty> norty@norty:~$ sudo mv /home/norty/Desktop/katie3/Music/DJ_Ti*sto/ DJ_Tiesto
[04:37] <norty> mv: cannot stat `/home/norty/Desktop/katie3/Music/DJ_Ti*sto/': No such file or directory
[04:38] <norty> thats what i get when i try what dooglus said
[04:38] <gravemind> daveyarusso: from this line then: "kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash boot: noapic no1apic"
[04:38] <norty> the folder is named DJ_Tiesto (where the e is the weird character)
[04:38] <daveyarusso> gravemind, yep
[04:38] <gabriela> unop: im talking you from the window that you opened
[04:38] <linuxor> Hi, Please, I've got error : No package 'gtk+-2.0' found and 'libglade-2.0', I've done build-essential , and didn't find'm using synaptic, so Please what to do ?
[04:39] <dooglus> norty: what do you see if you do this:    cd ~/Desktop/katie3/Music; ls | od -c
[04:39] <calamari> linuxor: did you install the appropriate dev packages?
[04:39] <unop> norty,  perl -le 'opendir D,"."; print `mv -v "/home/nort/Desktop/folder/$_"` for grep /dj_ti.sto/i, readdir D'
[04:40] <Wimpog> GUYS, I can't find /etc/inittab in Ubuntu server, where is it???
[04:40] <norty> dooglus: norty@norty:~$ cd ~/Desktop/katie3/Music; ls | od -c
[04:40] <norty> bash: cd: /home/norty/Desktop/katie3/Music: Permission denied
[04:40] <norty> 0000000   D   e   s   k   t   o   p  \n   E   x   a   m   p   l   e   s
[04:40] <norty> 0000020  \n
[04:40] <norty> 0000021
 like what?
[04:40] <calamari> linuxor: for gtk and libglade
[04:41] <Dev-> i get an error message saying that my screen is not configured correctly whenever i try to boot from the live cd, and it never goes to the splash screen.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:41] <dooglus> norty: so you don't have permission to go to that directory.  try a "sudo -i" first
 i think gtk is installed
[04:41] <posingaspopular> Dev-: did you try the ubuntu forums/google? ive never heard of this
[04:41] <gabriela> unop
[04:41] <calamari> linuxor: yes.. of course it is.. but is the DEV package for gtk installed?
[04:41] <unop> norty, actually ,  cd ~/Desktop/folder; perl -le 'opendir D,"."; print `mv -v "$_" ~/Desktop` for grep /dj_ti.sto/i, readdir D'
[04:41] <unop> gabriela,  yep? :)
[04:41] <gabriela> unop: still here?
 i do not know ? how to install it?
[04:41] <gabriela> im talking you from the window that you opened
[04:42] <unop> gabriela,  si :)
[04:42] <dooglus> unop: he can't cd to the directory in question...
[04:42] <calamari> linuxor: using synaptic
[04:42] <Xenguy> Wimpog: do:  file /etc/inittab
[04:42] <shatrat> Dev-, try the safe graphic setting entry on the boot menu, and if that doesnt work, Id just try downloading the alternative text based install CD, sometimes the liveCD is more hassle than it's worth
[04:42] <Xenguy> Wimpog: what is the output?
[04:42] <Wimpog> just a second..
[04:42] <calamari> linuxor: for example, libglade2-dev
[04:42] <unop> dooglus,  he could copy every other file except this one -- he might not have executable permissions on the directory to CD to it, but he can definitely read from it
[04:43] <Dev-> i never even get to the boot menu.
 i ''ll try
 thx a lot friend
[04:43] <Dev-> i just get press F1 for help, or ENTER to boot
[04:43] <unop> dooglus,  errm, actually, on second thought, he could cd to it before
[04:43] <dooglus> unop: you can't copy anything from a directory if you don't have execute permission on it
[04:43] <Dev-> then i get an error
[04:43] <unop> dooglus, sure you can
[04:43] <shatrat> Dev-, hmm, dont even get to the splash screen.  Maybe it was a bad burn or corrupt iso download?
[04:43] <unop> gabriela,  hmm
[04:44] <dooglus> unop: this "bash: cd: /home/norty/Desktop/katie3/Music" indicates there's a permissions problem
[04:44] <gabriela> unop: what?
[04:44] <Dev-> maybe...
[04:44] <Dev-> i did burn it at 48x
[04:44] <dooglus> unop: try it.  you'll find you can't.
[04:44] <unop> gabriela,  i opened a window? :>
[04:44] <dooglus> unop: you can list the contents of a directory without 'x' permission, but can't read the files
  sorry Ii did not find them
[04:45] <gabriela> yeap one that is with your nick name
[04:45] <gabriela> you asked me are you there
[04:45] <shatrat> Dev-, Yeah I wouldnt be surprised.  I usually only burn at high speed with audio disks, data disks I burn at like 4x
[04:45] <Dev-> ok
[04:46] <Ph1L777> I need help
[04:46] <norty> unop: norty@norty:~$ sudo cd ~/Desktop/katie3; perl -le 'opendir D,"."; print 'mv -v "$_" ~/Desktop' for grep /DJ_Ti.sto/i, readdir D'
[04:46] <norty> sudo: cd: command not found
[04:46] <norty> unop: when I add sudo in front of that command it says bash: permission denied
[04:46] <Wimpog> Xenguy: says ERROR cannot open ... no such file
[04:46] <unop> norty,  err, you cant sudo cd
[04:47] <unop> norty,  cd is a builtin
[04:47] <unop> gabriela,  gimme 2 secs ;)
[04:47] <calamari> linuxor: libglade2-dev is in the main ubuntu package area.. if you cannot find it then either you're not looking for it correctly or your package list isn't correct?
[04:47] <dooglus> norty: run "sudo -i" as a separate command to get a root shell
[04:47] <calamari> heh
[04:47] <Xenguy> Wimpog: if that file is not present, then something is wrong with your system - it should always be there
[04:47] <norty> ok did that
[04:47] <norty> now what
[04:47] <fnf> !suspend
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <gabriela> unop: ok
[04:47] <Ph1L777> Anyone can help me out ? plz
[04:47] <dooglus> norty: now try the 'mv DJ* DJ' command
[04:47] <gravemind> daveyarusso, calamari, I saw the splash screen anyway. I think grub is starting from my other ubuntu (32 bit) partition
[04:47] <norty> is that exactly what the command is?
[04:48] <norty> i dont know linux that well..
[04:48] <Crescendo_> What's a good MP3 to MIDI converter for Ubuntu?
[04:48] <dooglus> norty: if you 'cd' into the folder first, and you only have one folder beginning with 'DJ' then yes.
[04:48] <daveyarusso> gravemind, That could be.  You'll need to establish which grub config is actually being used.
[04:48] <norty> i have many folders starting with DJ
[04:48] <calamari> gravemind: you can chroot to the other drive and do the grub changes there
[04:49] <DARKGuy> Hm, I got a question. I have a dual monitor setup here with 2 video cards. Now, in my xorg.conf I have both devices/screens/monitors defined. Is there a way I can kill the :0.1 display and be left just with :0.0, or visceversa ? somehow I think :0.1 is linked to :0.0 and visceversa and that if I kill one, I can kill the other one, am I right?
[04:49] <zackglennie> again I come.  Anyone know how to install "sndplay"?
[04:49] <calamari> err that isn't quite right, but you get the idea
[04:49] <gravemind> calamari: what is chroot? I was just going to edit the other menu.lst, but if there's a better way...
[04:49] <dooglus> norty: ok, so cd to the folder which contains the DJ_thingy folder, then "mv DJ_wh*tisname JD_whatisname"
[04:49] <zackglennie> it's the command-line program for playing a .wav file
[04:49] <Andymeows> does anyone know what package to install to get man pages for functions like getopt, and other C stuff?
[04:49] <Wimpog> Xenguy: here is thing. I installed Windows Server in my primary HDD, and Ubuntu Server in my secondary HDD. Then, I noticed that I would not get GRUB menu, because grub together with ubuntu was on secondary HDD, and Windows server would boot EVERY TIME. So I changed boot options to boot from HDD where Ubuntu server is installed, and I can now see GRUB and load linux, but the thing is, that I don't see any messages when ubuntu is 
[04:49] <unop> norty, whats the full path of this directory?
[04:49] <calamari> gravemind: after editing menu.lst did you run grub-install ?
[04:50] <Wimpog> Xenguy: could it be because I changed the boot order of HDDs?
[04:50] <gravemind> calamari: no, I did not
[04:50] <norty> /home/norty/Desktop/folder/Music/
[04:50] <calamari> gravemind: aha :)
[04:50] <norty> the folder im trying to fix is in there
[04:50] <cables> gravemind, calamari, isn't it "grub-update"?
[04:50] <Xenguy> Wimpog: I really don't know - hopefully someone else can help
[04:50] <Wimpog> Xenguy: ok, thanks anyways
[04:50] <calamari> cables: has it changed?  I have always known it as grub-install
[04:50] <Xenguy> Wimpog: good luck
[04:51] <dooglus> Andymeows: manpages-dev
[04:51] <unop> norty,  ahh, but you did this earlier --  cd ~/Desktop/katie3/Music; ls | od -c
[04:51] <norty> dooglus: it says "mv: cannot move (the file) to (new file): Read-only file system
[04:51] <gravemind> calamari, cables, which is it?
[04:51] <gabriela> unop: are you there?
[04:51] <cables> calamari, when I change the settings in menu.lst, I use "sudo update-grub"...
[04:51] <calamari> gravemind: well, I have no grub-update command
[04:51] <Andymeows> thanks dooglus
[04:51] <unop> norty, this out to do it -  cd ~/Desktop/folder; perl -le 'opendir D,"."; print `mv -v "$_" ~/Desktop` for grep /dj_ti.sto/i, readdir D'
[04:51] <dooglus> norty: interesting.  is it an NTFS file system?  or a CDROM?
[04:51] <Asc__> wimpog: You don't see any messages when ubuntu is loading?
[04:51] <cables> calamari, gravemind, i meant update-grub
[04:51] <norty> ntfs
[04:51] <unop> gabriela,  i'm here but not getting your messages through pm
[04:52] <fnf> I've tried a number of tutorials (including Ubuntu guide) on how to make suspend-to-RAM work but to no avail. Will anyone recommend a reliable way to do this ?. What is the state of suspend support in Ubuntu ?
[04:52] <calamari> gravemind: use grub-install
[04:52] <Wimpog> Asc__: Yeah, I only see like 2 or 3 - checking the file system and activating swap
[04:52] <gabriela> unop: what do i need to do to do that?
[04:52] <dooglus> norty: do you just want to copy the folder?  'cos editing NTFS partitions in Linux is possibly unsafe
[04:52] <unop> dooglus,  you got him to do an od -c on the wrong folder there .. that explains the permissions
[04:52] <Wimpog> Asc__: but it should say things like starting DHCP, starting DNS, starting Mysql
[04:52] <unop> !register
[04:52] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:52] <Asc__> wimpog: Ah, okay.  You're not using a spash screen then?
[04:52] <calamari> gravemind: for example on my system it is sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[04:52] <unop> gabriela,  ^^^ register
[04:53] <zombor> can anyone help me out with my scanner and xsane...its is an HP F380, and xsane-find-scanner sees it, but when i launch xsane it says no scanner found
[04:53] <Wimpog> Asc__: how do I activate it?
[04:53] <cables> calamari, sorry, you're right
[04:53] <gravemind> calamari: ok. I also have a man page for update-grub
[04:53] <gabriela> how and where?
[04:53] <cables> gravemind, calamari is right
[04:53] <Wimpog> Asc__: I'd like to know
[04:53] <gravemind> cables: ok
[04:53] <unop> gabriela,  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:53] <Asc__> wimpog: I get the same thing.  Started happening when I upgraded to edgy.  I'd like more messages but it dosn't seem significant to work out how.
[04:53] <gabriela> is it free?
[04:53] <dooglus> unop: I asked him to run the 'ls | od' in the folder containing the funny named folder.  I didn't mention katie...
[04:53] <norty> yea i just want to copy
[04:53] <Wimpog> Asc__: do you have inittab file in your system?
[04:53] <djKap0w> hello, all
[04:53] <norty> i dont care if its unsafe
[04:53] <norty> im reformatting anyways
[04:54] <Wimpog> Asc__: because I don't have it for some reason
[04:54] <norty> unop: that command isnt working
[04:54] <zackglennie> never mind. I got it working.
[04:54] <dooglus> norty: so:  cp -r DJ_what*sname /path/to/copy/to
[04:54] <djKap0w> is there a way to lessen the disk space requirements fort the desktop version?
[04:54] <Asc__> wimpog: to use a splash sccreen add 'splash' to the end of the 'kernel' line in /boot/grub/*lst
[04:54] <unop> dooglus,  <dooglus> norty: what do you see if you do this:    cd ~/Desktop/katie3/Music; ls | od -c
[04:54] <cables> norty, can't you just put the drive in a Windows machine?
[04:54] <Asc__> wimpog: Dunno.  What's inittab?
[04:54] <gravemind> calamari: "/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[04:54] <norty> no cables
[04:54] <norty> unop: i see a lot of lines wth characters
[04:54] <norty> tons
[04:55] <calamari> gravemind: well, which is your boot drive?  might not be /dev/hda
[04:55] <unop> norty,  with which command?
[04:55] <gravemind> i thought it was - I only have one hard drive
[04:55] <Wimpog> Asc__: type: more /etc/inittab This file specifies how your system should boot. I think maybe this is a problem why we're not getting messages
[04:55] <norty> cd ~/desktop/katie3/music; ks | od -c
[04:55] <Wimpog> Asc__: let me know if you have that file
[04:55] <Asc__> wimpog: I have it.
[04:55] <Wimpog> cool, I don't and don't know why
[04:56] <calamari> gravemind: check df
[04:56] <djKap0w> i cannot believe a desktop-centric distro NEEDS 2gb
[04:56] <unop> norty,  you want to run this - ls ~/Desktop/folder/DJ* | oc -c
[04:56] <zombor> can anyone help me out with my scanner and xsane...its is an HP F380, and xsane-find-scanner sees it, but when i launch xsane it says no scanner found
[04:56] <gravemind> k I'm at df, what do I look for?
[04:56] <cables> djKap0w, it comes with a ton of preinstalled software. Windows uses about that much, but doesn't come with anything useful.
[04:57] <dooglus> norty: be more specific, like "DJ*_Ti*o" - you'll get less output that way
[04:57] <daveyarusso> djKap0w, Your best bet would be to install a minimal install, and get the other packages you want on top of that.
[04:57] <calamari> gravemind: this lists your drives and the total, free, used space
[04:57] <djKap0w> i understand... i only want 1/2 ton of preinstalled software
[04:57] <calamari> gravemind: df -h is probably prettier
[04:57] <norty> unop: when i run that command i get: root@norty:/home/norty/Desktop/katie3# ls /home/norty/Desktop/katie3/DJ* | oc -c
[04:57] <norty> -bash: oc: command not found
[04:57] <norty> ls: /home/norty/Desktop/katie3/DJ*: No such file or directory
[04:57] <valehru> Hey guys, has anyone here got the 3d acceleration working in vmware for winxp?
[04:57] <gravemind> calamari: /dev/hda is mounted on /media/cdrom0
[04:57] <dooglus> norty: 'od' not 'oc'
[04:58] <unop> norty,  sorry -- od -c .. my bad
[04:58] <calamari> gravemind: okay.. so that's not the hard drive
[04:58] <daveyarusso> djKap0w, ie, install a minimal server, add X, Gnome, OOo, Firefox, or whatever else you want, but not the entire ubuntu-desktop metapackage.  You should be able to do it for significantly less space, and just a bit more work as a tradeoff.
[04:58] <calamari> gravemind: guessing there is a /dev/sda ?
[04:58] <gravemind> calamari: yes, there's one of those for each partition
[04:58] <norty> o shit, i got into the folder using that command unop
[04:58] <norty> that ls | od c -c one or something
[04:58] <calamari> gravemind: yep.. that's probably your hd right there
[04:58] <Wimpog> Asc__: for splash screen it says "ro quite splash" what do I change here?
[04:59] <asdf_> olaris
[04:59] <calamari> gravemind: so sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:59] <Asc__> wimpog: That's interesting.  The splash screen is working, then?
[04:59] <Wimpog> Asc__: no
[04:59] <gravemind> so do I do sudo grub-install /dev/sda or sda2?
[04:59] <dooglus> norty: don't worry about the 'od' thing - just run "cp -r DJ_Ti*o /home/norty/Desktop/DJ_Tiero
[04:59] <gravemind> ok
[04:59] <norty> i think i tried that it didnt work
[04:59] <Asc__> wimpog: What does it look like while booting?  Text-only, or blank?
[05:00] <n2diy> Asc__: should "quiet splash" be commented out?
[05:00] <gravemind> "Installation finished, no error reported"
[05:00] <gravemind> I'll try restarting now
[05:00] <Asc__> n2diy: It depends on what state we're trying to achieve, I guess....
[05:00] <frobro360> question: i've got two hard drives on the same ide channel, how much of a performance increase would I get by putting the two drives on seperate channels?
[05:00] <Wimpog> Asc__: blank for a long time and then some text like activating swap, filesystem, only 3 messages
[05:00] <norty> dooglus: ot@norty:/home/norty/Desktop/katie3/Music/DJ_Tisto# cp -r DJ_Ti*sto /home/norty/Desktop/DJ_Tiesto
[05:00] <norty> cp: cannot stat `DJ_Ti*sto': No such file or directory
[05:00] <Nergar> hello
[05:00] <n2diy> Asc__: yea, I thought he wanted to watch the boot process?
[05:01] <calamari> gravemind: from what I've seen, the "h" devices are things attached to your IDE bus, s are scsi, usb, sata devices
[05:01] <gravemind> calamari: is there any chance that grub gets messed up?
[05:01] <dooglus> norty: "cd .." first
[05:01] <calamari> gravemind: why, what happened?
[05:01] <help> ok i need help
[05:01] <Nergar> who knows how to script in python or pearl??
[05:01] <Asc__> Wimpog: Different than mine.  Do you want a graphical splash?
[05:01] <Wimpog> no
[05:01] <unop> norty, you are already in this folder -- just copy the files in it to somewhere else? :)
[05:01] <dooglus> Nergar: the people in #python and #perl do
[05:01] <help> ????????
[05:01] <Nergar> help, state ur quetion if you want an answer
[05:01] <norty> dooglus: root@norty:/home/norty/Desktop/katie3/Music/DJ_Tisto# cd cp -r DJ_Ti*sto /home/norty/Desktop/DJ_Tiesto
[05:01] <norty> -bash: cd: cp: No such file or directory
[05:01] <help> k
[05:01] <dooglus> help: can you be more specific?
[05:02] <Nergar> thanx dooglus
[05:02] <Asc__> Wimpog: Okay.  Removing 'splash' will make it text-mode.  n2diy says that removing 'quiet' will also do something,
[05:02] <dooglus> norty: no, "cd .." is one command
[05:02] <unop> norty, if you didnt cd .. already - cp -Rv ./*  ~/Desktop
[05:02] <Chicory> Does anyone have a list of PLF packages handy?
[05:02] <dooglus> then the "cp" command, without "cd" in front of it
[05:02] <unop> Nergar,  yes, perl
[05:02] <Wimpog> Asc__: I'll try now
[05:02] <DLB|Maximus> anyone know of a problem with the installer not allowing someone to create a seperate partition just for /home?
[05:02] <gravemind> it says the only contents of my /boot/grub/device.map is the one line "(hd0)     /dev/sda"
[05:02] <frogzoo> Chicory: I thought PLF was extinct?
[05:02] <gravemind> is that right?
[05:02] <Asc__> Wimpog: I've not tried without quiet, but it seems like it ought to make it print more messages.
[05:02] <help> i cant get on myspace cuase i cant rememebr my password and when i get my passwrod sent to my email by pressing forget passrword it sends it there but i dont got a email
[05:02] <Nergar> i want to learn unop
[05:02] <starz> o gawd
[05:02] <Chicory> frogzoo:
[05:02] <Nergar> know where??
[05:02] <Asc__> n2diy: thanks, hadn't considered removing quiet because I didn't know what it does.
[05:02] <starz> on teh phone with cableguy
[05:03] <Chicory> Many of the packages were grandfathered in to Medibuntu.
[05:03] <n2diy> Asc__: I think if you comment out the entire line, you'll get a text mode boot, before you hit the splash screen, but I'm not sure of that.
[05:03] <help> can anyone help?
[05:03] <Chicory> w32codecs is available there now.
[05:03] <Wimpog> Asc__: The fact that I don't have /etc/inittab file means already something is wrong
[05:03] <unop> Nergar,  errm, if you want resources -- http://perlmonks.org is a good place, as is #perl
[05:03] <Asc__> n2diy: I like having a kernel, so I think I'll keep that line for now....
[05:03] <Hobbsee> help: try #myspace or something?
[05:03] <Chicory> So ...
[05:03] <dooglus> help: no, I doubt if anyone can.  did someone change the email address on the account?
[05:03] <frogzoo> Wimpog: nopers, means they did away with inittab :)
[05:03] <Nergar> help, this isn't the place to ask that
[05:03] <norty> unop , dooglus: I got it to a point where can copy it
[05:03] <n2diy> Asc__: ? :)
[05:03] <Chicory> Any Medibuntu lists available?  XD;;
[05:03] <norty> thanks for the help!
[05:03] <Nergar> thanx unop
[05:03] <Asc__> wimpog: It's possible, but I don't know if edgy requires it.  Do you have terminals on ctrl-alt-F1 though F6?
[05:04] <help> damn u guys are mean i just wanted to ask smart people Nergar
[05:04] <Wimpog> Asc__: yeah, I do have that
[05:04] <help> no just the password
[05:04] <dooglus> norty: good.  the copies will be owned as root now, so do a "chown -R norty:norty ~/Desktop/DJ_Tiaro" to make them owned by you.  then "exit" to stop being root.
[05:04] <frogzoo> Wimpog: look in /etc/event.d/
[05:04] <Asc__> n2diy: that line defines the kernel location, so commenting it out could make booting a little more difficult.
[05:04] <pavs> how do I install nubuntu from terminal? amd64 here
[05:04] <sable> Hello
[05:04] <stinger> yo
[05:04] <Nergar> help, 1. your email is worng or 2. th mail is in the spam folder
[05:05] <unop> pavs,  is that a ubuntu terminal ?
[05:05] <stinger> Need help - i delete my /var/cache dir
[05:05] <help> wats the spam folder
[05:05] <pavs> yes
[05:05] <dooglus> help: or 3: the email is delayed, and will turn up later
[05:05] <unop> pavs,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:05] <stinger> now aptitude is complaining about /var/cache/debconf/config.dat not existing
[05:05] <Nergar> whats ur email?
[05:05] <n2diy> Asc__: ah ok, I wasn't paying close enough attention to what you guys were doing.
[05:05] <frobro360> alright what am I doing wrong??? i almost never get a response when I post a question in this channel
[05:05] <help> but i cant rememebr my password for my mypsace email or my normal email
[05:05] <stinger> is there a way that i can restup the aptitude directory structure ?
[05:05] <frogzoo> stinger: dude, deleting /var/cache/ is not supported
[05:06] <Nergar> spam or junk mail help
[05:06] <Chicory> >:E
[05:06] <Chicory> Darn!
[05:06] <dooglus> help: how do you know the email isn't arriving if you can't read your email?
[05:06] <Wimpog> Asc__: Did you install Edgy or upgraded from hoary?
[05:06] <n2diy> ! splash
[05:06] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[05:06] <Chicory> I can't find a simple list of what's available through medibuntu!
[05:06] <stinger> frogzoo, yeah long story
[05:06] <Wimpog> frogzoo: inittab isn't present in /etc/event.d
[05:06] <Chicory> Anyone have a suggestion on how to find what IS available?
[05:06] <frobro360> see not even a response, it's all good though
[05:06] <kasper> hi
[05:06] <stinger> frogzoo, is there a way i can rebuild the dir ?
[05:06] <help> it did arrive but i dont have an normal email and it wont olet me make one iwth my myspace email and thats the only way i can get my passworf
[05:06] <n2diy> ! medibuntu
[05:06] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[05:06] <Asc__> stinger: if you're going to delete files in /var/cache, don't delete the folders.  Also, you might have to make a blank file if you delete the apache log, or it won't start.
[05:06] <frogzoo> Wimpog: no, because upstart doesn't use inittab, it uses scripts
[05:06] <sable> I'I'm trying to download and install wine and a game called Eve-Online, and I'm going step by step, but at the first step, it tells me to type in sudo apt-get install build-essential flex bison xlibs-dev x11proto-gl-dev libgl1-mesa-dev fontconfig libfreetype6-dev fontforge checkinstall,  but I get an error that says Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another...
[05:06] <sable> ...package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:07] <sable> is only available from another source
[05:07] <unop> stinger,  probably by reinstalling debconf
[05:07] <sable> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[05:07] <sable> what is build-essential, and where do I find a copy of it?
[05:07] <sable> \
[05:07] <Wimpog> frogzoo: So why don't I have inittab file at all?
[05:07] <unop> !info build-essentials
[05:07] <ubotu> Package build-essentials does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[05:07] <unop> !info build-essential
[05:07] <xsystemx> is there a log file that could tell me what vnc-http is not working? I get logon screen and it says network error: could not connect to server...?
[05:07] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:07] <kasper> any one guys sucsseus installing 3D acceleration on ATI
[05:07] <pavs> unop i want to install nubuntu not ubuntu
[05:07] <frogzoo> stinger: dpkg -l return anything??
[05:07] <sable> I'm using dapper, not edgy
[05:07] <frogzoo> Wimpog: cos edgy uses upstart
[05:07] <Nergar> help, contact the myspace support team
[05:07] <kasper> it's gonna make me crazy
[05:07] <Nergar> btw, i don't know where
[05:07] <Asc__> n2diy: Getting back to you, I've been doing upgraded since breezy
[05:08] <help> how do i contact tehm
[05:08] <frogzoo> !anyone | kasper
[05:08] <ubotu> kasper: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:08] <help> them
[05:08] <Wimpog> frogzoo: whereis that upstart? Like I want to check the boot level, where do I see that?
[05:08] <xsystemx> anyone here use VNC?
[05:08] <gravemind> uh, calamari
[05:08] <Asc__> n2diy: splash isn't working, but I prefer text anyway; I'm just trying to get more messages while booting.
[05:08] <unop> pavs,  ohhh, i'm sorry, i thought you'd mis-spelt that :) .. errm,  i really dont know about nubuntu .. maybe the homepage has instructions on doing this?
[05:08] <Crescendo_> What's a good MP3 to MIDI converter for Ubuntu?
[05:08] <Crescendo_> And what's a good MIDI player for Ubuntu?
[05:08] <frogzoo> Wimpog: just 'runlevel' will do that, but to change default bootlevel, well hmm..
[05:08] <gravemind> ubuntu 32 bit has disappeared from the boot list
[05:09] <gravemind> calamari: and sound no longer works in 64 bit
[05:09] <sable> How do I stop X server?
[05:09] <pavs> I was hoping they have a way to do it from terminal :) thanks anyways
[05:09] <dooglus> Chicory: look at http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/edgy/ - that's one way to find what's in the repositories
[05:09] <Dr_willis> sable,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (is 1 way)
[05:09] <Chicory> Ah!
[05:09] <Chicory> Thanks, dooglus!
[05:09] <sable> thank you
[05:09] <n2diy> Asc__: roger that, I've been around linux awhile too.  I thought you were trying to get a verbose boot screen, but I didn't realize it was done with inittab or startup?
[05:09] <stinger> frogzoo, yeah heaps of stuff
[05:09] <kasper> didn't get it so how is ok ??
[05:09] <frogzoo> Wimpog: check /etc/event.d/rc-default
[05:10] <Wimpog> frogzoo: it doesn't say how to change the default run level
[05:10] <calamari> gravemind: have you edited your menu.lst file before?
[05:10] <jtmoney_> anyone know why apt-get install ivtv-source is not working right now? i have all the repositories enabled
[05:10] <Asc__> n2diy: I imagine it's with whichever edgy uses.  I'm going to restart to test it, back in five
[05:10] <gravemind> calamari: I think so
[05:11] <frogzoo> stinger: ls -ld /var/cache
[05:11] <calamari> gravemind: probably a result of those past changes
[05:11] <ubuntu_cry> hey
[05:11] <ubuntu_cry> is there someone here
[05:11] <n2diy> Asc_: gl
[05:11] <calamari> gravemind: guessing at the time you might not have run grub-install
[05:11] <sable> is there a keyboard shortcut to switch desktops?
[05:11] <help> you guys are no HELP
[05:11] <stinger> frogzoo, i think i got it working :) thansk for your help making a blank file seems to have worked
[05:11] <frogzoo> ubuntu_cry: with 929 people in chan, you'd think someone was here, wouldn't you?
[05:11] <cables> sable, ctrl-alt-right and left arrow
[05:11] <gravemind> calamari: so how do I make sound work again? The volume controller doesn't even work
[05:11] <Crescendo_> Number lock works in BIOS and during startup - but doesn't work once Ubuntu is loaded.
[05:11] <Crescendo_> Help?
[05:11] <ubuntu_cry> grogzoo what?
[05:12] <Wimpog> frogzoo: I also saw very few (like 2 or 3)  messages on startup, until I removed 'quite' in the menu.lst where it said 'quite splash' IS THIS OK??? I mean is it OK that I did not see many messages like starting dns, starting dhcp, starting mysqld, etc...
[05:12] <frogzoo> stinger: /var/cache/ should be a directory, not a file, perms 755, owner root:root
[05:12] <ubuntu_cry> frogzoo what???
[05:12] <andre> hello how would i add ntfs
[05:12] <ubuntu_cry> andre man help
[05:12] <andre> ntfs drive
[05:12] <Chicory> Oh, is libdvdnav required for using libdvdcss very effectively?
[05:12] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: there are people here, yes.  do you have a question?
[05:12] <frogzoo> Wimpog: that's what quiet does
[05:12] <ubuntu_cry> andre i can't resize ntfs
[05:12] <calamari> gravemind: I am not sure
[05:12] <cables> ubuntu_cry, you have to ask your question to the whole channel, not one specific people.
[05:12] <stinger> frogzoo, yeah but the config.dat file i mean
[05:12] <Chicory> aptitude didn't point me to anything out of the ordinary about it.
[05:12] <mackinac> !ask | ubuntu_cry
[05:12] <ubotu> ubuntu_cry: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:13] <ubuntu_cry> cables man are you onlune
[05:13] <dooglus> Chicory: no.  libdvdnav is needed to navigate a DVD's menus.  but if you just want to watch the movie it isn't
[05:13] <Chicory> Okies!
[05:13] <ubuntu_cry> cables lets continued the work i change to UBuntu
[05:13] <Chicory> Thanks again, dooglus.
[05:13] <gravemind> calamari: can I undo grub-install?
[05:13] <Wimpog> frogzoo: I'm in the middle of either something is wrong with my system OR that's how it should be... I'm clueless right now
[05:13] <frogzoo> stinger: kk, obviously you'll have lost a lot of state, if any packages play up, dpkg-reconfigure them
[05:13] <cables> ubuntu_cry, seriously, you need to ask your question to the channel! Someone will be able to help you.
[05:13] <calamari> gravemind: it might keep a backup.. checking the man page
[05:13] <ubuntu_cry> cables the problems is for gparted man
[05:13] <frogzoo> Wimpog: no /etc/inittab on edgy is the default
[05:14] <cables> ubuntu_cry, ASK EVERYONE. Not just me.
[05:14] <mackinac> man
[05:14] <pavs> !nubuntu
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <Crescendo_> And what's a good MIDI player for Ubuntu?
[05:14] <Crescendo_> What's a good MP3 to MIDI converter for Ubuntu?
[05:14] <andre> i dont want to resize ntfs i want to access the drive from ubuntu
[05:14] <Crescendo_> Number lock works in BIOS and during startup - but doesn't work once Ubuntu is loaded.
[05:14] <unop> frogzoo,  thats only if sysvinit is used tho .. upstart doesnt use that
[05:14] <ubuntu_cry> hey i have problem i can't install UBUntu
[05:14] <rj__> then it says "register password;" so, just type in a password, right?
[05:14] <frogzoo> ubuntu_cry: did you use gparted to resize ntfs & now all your data is gone?
[05:14] <Asc__> That worked.  Was still printing messages after the login prompt came up though
[05:14] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: if gparted won't resize ntfs for you, boot into windows and fix the partition.
[05:14] <Wimpog> frogzoo: because before I had Hoary and later upgraded to edgy. That had inittab. BUT now i reformated the HDD and installed fresh edgy.
[05:14] <Chicory> !ati
[05:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <Chicory> Hmm.
[05:14] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus i can't boot in windows xp
[05:15] <calamari> Crescendo: I use pmidi, but it doesn't have a ui
[05:15] <frogzoo> Wimpog: correct - no inittab is needed for a default edgy install
[05:15] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus only Ubuntu see the hard disk
[05:15] <Chicory> Any way to get XGL to play nice with an ATI driver?
[05:15] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: I see.  and what happens when you try to resize the ntfs partition?
[05:15] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus windows xp say that this partition is dynamic and can't install it
[05:15] <frogzoo> ubuntu_cry: did you use gparted to resize ntfs & now all your data is gone?
[05:15] <Crescendo_> calamari, that's suitable, for me
[05:15] <DARKGuy> Hm, I got a question. I have a dual monitor setup here with 2 video cards. Now, in my xorg.conf I have both devices/screens/monitors defined. Is there a way I can kill the :0.1 display and be left just with :0.0, or visceversa ? somehow I think :0.1 is linked to :0.0 and visceversa and that if I kill one, I can kill the other one, am I right?
[05:15] <javaTN> hey all
[05:15] <ubuntu_cry> frogzoo moment
[05:15] <javaTN> everyone here knows what valentines day is, right?
[05:16] <unop> Wimpog,  there shouldnt be a need to change the runlevel anyway because runlevels 2-5 remain identical in debian/ubuntu
[05:16] <mackinac> !offtopic | javaTN
[05:16] <ubotu> javaTN: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:16] <frogzoo> javaTN: this is in international chan, VD is a US festival day only
[05:16] <kasper> no i don't know
[05:16] <dooglus> javaTN: it's yet another means of extacting cash from suckers, right?
[05:16] <javaTN> it is?
[05:16] <javaTN> lol
[05:16] <DARKGuy> xD
[05:16] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: you should install the linux then install windows.. if you had a windows in first, you'll likely a grub didn't get a "windows" menu selections..
[05:16] <Wimpog> unop: yeah, but I stil want to know how to do it
[05:16] <javaTN> no i just need to get some opinions of people
[05:16] <javaTN> what valentines day means o them
[05:16] <javaTN> to*
[05:16] <dooglus> Wimpog: "sudo telinit 3"
[05:16] <frogzoo> !offtopic | javaTN
[05:16] <ubotu> javaTN: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:16] <javaTN> if this isnt a reasonable channle, tell me where to go.
[05:17] <gravemind> javaTN: apt-get deliver flowers
[05:17] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus now i have error Cluster Accounting 2576892:extra cluster in $BItmap
[05:17] <DARKGuy> ahahah
[05:17] <kasper> guys how can you replay for some one with quto or what ever it is name
[05:17] <cables> PwcrLinux, ubuntu_cry can't make a new Linux partition...that's his problem.
[05:17] <dooglus> javaTN: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <javaTN> ?
[05:17] <Wimpog> dooglus: that'll change it???
[05:17] <frogzoo> javaTN: -> #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[05:17] <n2diy> javaTN: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <dooglus> Wimpog: yes
[05:17] <ubuntu_cry> Error FIlesystem check faild!Totaly 1 cluster mismatches
[05:17] <javaTN> its like no one is in there.
[05:17] <mackinac> bad luck
[05:17] <javaTN> lol
[05:17] <dooglus> Wimpog: I have changed runlevel 2 to not include gdm, so I can 'telinit 2' to stop gdm and 'telinit 3' to start it
[05:18] <cables> ubuntu_cry, do you have windows on the computer?
[05:18] <PwcrLinux> cables: yea, looks like he didn't put into something correctly..
[05:18] <unop> Wimpog,  hrrm, i have no idea really -- except of a workaround - create the last script in /etc/rc2.d that sends you to another runlevel using init/telinit :)
[05:18] <Wimpog> dooglus: but is there something like 'inittab' in Edgy? Something that you can open with vim and see?
[05:18] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: the problem is that gparted won't touch an ntfs filesystem if it's corrupted.  you have to fix it using Windows as far as I know.
[05:18] <chona> why can't i include mysql/mysql.h in my c file?
[05:19] <dooglus> Wimpog: I thought edgy used /etc/inittab.  If not, I don't know what it uses.
[05:19] <EnsignRedshirt> chona: Does the file exist in /usr/include/mysql?
[05:19] <chona> how can i have the library mysql/mysql.h?download?
[05:19] <Wimpog> dooglus: folks here just told me that Edgy by default does not have /etc/inittab
[05:19] <cables> dooglus, Wimpog, Edgy uses Upstart, but all it's doing right now is emulating sysvinit, so you can do the same things to it as you could with sysvinit.
[05:19] <Crescendo_> Things keep looking for a sequencer - how do I get one installed?
[05:20] <ubuntu_cry> This software  has detected that your NTFS Is corrupted .please Run Chkdsk /f
[05:20] <gravemind> calamari: any new info?
[05:20] <dooglus> chona: you need to install the headers?  package libmysqlclient15-dev or some such?
[05:20] <lineman60> I am running 6.06TLS ed. I was trying to get my wireless card to work, and some how i removed it.  Ubuntu no longer sees it in the network config tool and iwconfig shows no wireless devices.
[05:20] <Wimpog> cables: yeah, but, Is there are something similar to /etc/inittab, that you can open and see?
[05:20] <ubuntu_cry> on WIndows then reboot it twice !important don't forget the parameter /f
[05:20] <chona> how can i download or install it??
[05:20] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: Oh, how old on your hard drive?
[05:20] <calamari> gravemind: so, sorry.. the install was successful.. why don't we take a look at your menu.lst file
[05:20] <EnsignRedshirt> chona: You probably need to install a package with the headers, possibly libmysqlclient15-dev
[05:20] <gravemind> I have it open
[05:21] <calamari> gravemind: paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:21] <ubuntu_cry> PwcrLInux 6 month why?
[05:21] <lineman60> is there an easy way to reload the wireless config
[05:21] <EnsignRedshirt> chona: sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient15-dev
[05:21] <unop> Wimpog,  probably one of the files in -- dpkg -L upstart
[05:21] <n2diy> lineman60: did you ever have the card working?
[05:21] <cables> Wimpog, I used sysv-rc-conf to edit my startup stuff...
[05:21] <lineman60> yes, but it kept droping off after a few minits
[05:21] <ubuntu_cry> Afterwards you can run nftsresize.NO modification was made to NTFS
[05:21] <EnsignRedshirt> chona: ...or use Synaptic
[05:21] <ubuntu_cry> that is the problem.
[05:21] <ubuntu_cry> NOw lets repair man
[05:22] <ubuntu_cry> what i need to do.
[05:22] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: it's telling you to use Windows to fix it...
[05:22] <n2diy> lineman60: hmm, gl.
[05:22] <Wimpog> cables: where is it located? sysv-rc-conf
[05:22] <cables> ubuntu_cry, you need to scan the disk in Windows, I think...
[05:22] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: but if you can't boot into windows...
[05:22] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus but how i can enter in windows
[05:22] <cables> Wimpog, I really don't know if it works. You need  to install the package of the same name first.
[05:22] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: can you put the drive into a machine which can boot windows?
[05:22] <ubuntu_cry> is there a windows live cd
[05:22] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus no
[05:22] <ahave> am looking for a C++ IDE... would kdevelop work in my gnome environment?
[05:22] <gravemind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5522/ It looks pretty normal, except it defaulted to hidden menu, 3 second timeout, and doesn't have the choice to boot up in ubuntu 32bit that I had before
[05:22] <cables> ubuntu_cry, sort of but not really... you need a windows pc to make it, it's called BartPE.
[05:22] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus becouse windows install say that this hard drive is dynamic
[05:22] <dooglus> ahave: it would, yes
[05:23] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: do you have another PC which can boot windows?
[05:23] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: you can try chkdsk -f  (fix the corrputed files), sometime may not recoverable in some of dirs
[05:23] <ubuntu_cry> yes i have
[05:23] <cables> PwcrLinux, he doesn't have windows...
[05:23] <gravemind> calamari: I'm most upset that the sound is not working. It took so long to install the drivers, and I don't know how to replicate it
[05:24] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: so you can put the drive with the corrupted ntfs partition into the machine where windows works, and fix it from there
[05:24] <trelayne> hi all, anyone know what packages I have to install for development? Ie. such as gcc?
[05:24] <ubuntu_cry> I thanks on UBuntu becouse he can repair the problem but why
[05:24] <gravemind> trelayne: build-essential
[05:24] <cables> trelayne, "build-essential"
[05:24] <ubuntu_cry> in UBuntu don't have defrag man
[05:24] <trelayne> thanks a bunch!
[05:24] <gravemind> np
[05:24] <Wimpog> cables: I'm lost. I just installed ubuntu server, and can't find /etc/inittab. So I'm looking for some kind of equivalent of inittab. The system somehow boots, so it reads the configuration from somewhere....
[05:24] <cables> ubuntu_cry, Ubuntu doesn't need defrag, Ext3 pretty much doesn't require it.
[05:24] <valehru> , I have a 5.5.2 build-29772 vmworkstation running off of an ubuntu host.  Through vmware I have installed Windows XP.  How do I install the default nvidia driver FOR VMWARE??
[05:24] <cables> Wimpog, not sure... you could ask in #upstart
[05:25] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus ufffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff nooo
[05:25] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: linux doesn't need defrag.
[05:25] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: ubuntu doesn't have anti-spyware programs either, for the same reason
[05:25] <P235> hi I'm new to password managers and I'm wondering if there is a way to export a password manager database in a secure format onto a usb for use upon any OS for travel?
[05:25] <unop> ubuntu_cry,  sure it does -- sudo aptitude install defrag
[05:25] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy hi man
[05:25] <unop> !info defrag | ubuntu_cry
[05:25] <cables> unop, doesn't need it as much
[05:25] <ubotu> ubuntu_cry: defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-7 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 208 kB
[05:25] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: hi
[05:25] <calamari> gravemind: I'm sorry that you're upset, but how was I to know that you modified that file before?
[05:25] <ubuntu_cry> unop ??? raeally
[05:25] <gravemind> calamari: I'm not angry at you I just want to fix it
[05:25] <Wimpog> cables: I'm going to go there right now
[05:25] <unop> cables,  in most cases you dont need it at all .. but he claimed there were no defrag tools for linux
[05:26] <ubuntu_cry> unop but this defras is for ntfs not for ntfp
[05:26] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy thanks for all
[05:26] <unop> ubuntu_cry,  ntfp?
[05:26] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: nada
[05:26] <cables> ubuntu_cry, you need to scan the disk on a Windows box
[05:26] <ubuntu_cry> unop ntfp
[05:26] <ubuntu_cry> unop ntfs
[05:27] <xsystemx> I cant get VNC to work, where can I get help?
[05:27] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy like the old time.american spanish language
[05:27] <hyarion_> arg, this is driving me insane; I'm running Edgy Eft and it freezes entirely, have to manually restart a few times a day, anyone have this problem?
[05:27] <xsystemx> no log... etc...?!?
[05:27] <unop> ubuntu_cry,  i'm having trouble understanding you, can you explain yourself a little better please
[05:27] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: there's a program called 'ntfsfix' in pacakge 'ntfsprogs' which might be able to help, but I've never tried it.
[05:27] <gerson> hola
[05:27] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: ah, yes, now I remember.
[05:27] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus ok lets try iy then
[05:27] <gerson> hello
[05:28] <cables> !hi | gerson
[05:28] <ubotu> gerson: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:28] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy yeah man that i'm with another nick and one big problem.
[05:28] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus ok where i need to search for this program
[05:28] <cables> ubuntu_cry, open a terminal and run "sudo aptitude install ntfsprogs"
[05:28] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: you install package 'ntfsprogs'
[05:28] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: yea, I didn't remember the nick, and sorry, I don't have any ideas to help you.
[05:29] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy no problem.
[05:30] <ubuntu_cry> cables man i need to restart UBuntu
[05:30] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: you do?  why?
[05:30] <ubuntu_cry> cables to restart ubuntu live cd
[05:30] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus becouse it want
[05:30] <n2diy> Is Dapper patched to apply the new Canadian and Us Daylight Saving times?
[05:31] <n2diy> *Us/US
[05:31] <calamari> gravemind: it's possible that you are now booting a different kernel that you were before
[05:31] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: restarting a live CD will uninstall whatever you've installed so far.
[05:31] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus i didn't install nothing
[05:31] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus sudo give me error
[05:31] <gravemind> calamari: oh yeah, that's right, because update manager just ran, and wanted me to restart
[05:31] <ubuntu_cry> please wait to come
[05:31] <dooglus> ok
[05:31] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: do you have a USB flashdrive?
[05:31] <gravemind> calamari: what do I have to do now that I'm in a new kernel?
[05:32] <Flannel> n2diy: yes.  or, if it isn't, it will be before relevant.
[05:32] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus and when i came tell me the command
[05:32] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: what's the error?
[05:32] <ubuntu_cry> Pwcrlinux yes i have pen drive
[05:32] <n2diy> Flannel, cool.
[05:32] <calamari> gravemind: try the older kernel.. maybe your sound will be back
[05:32] <calamari> gravemind: I mean try booting with the older kernel
[05:32] <gravemind> ok, how do I get the older kernel?
[05:32] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus Reading package lists... Error!
[05:32] <ubuntu_cry> E: Write error - write (28 No space left on device)
[05:32] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: download onto usb flash drive..
[05:32] <calamari> gravemind: from the grub boot menu
[05:33] <Flannel> gravemind: when youre booting, choose a different kernel from the GRUB menu (hit escape after the POST screen to show the menu, if hidden)
[05:33] <ubuntu_cry> pwcrlinux iu have 4 gb pen drive
[05:33] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: good :) and let them help you
[05:33] <ubuntu_cry> pwcrlinux but how to download it????
[05:33] <gravemind> calamari, flannel: oh ok, I boot into .10 instead of .11
[05:33] <ubuntu_cry> Pwcrlinux ????
[05:34] <n2diy> ! Pwcllinux
[05:34] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: write errors, you didn't have enuff space of ram memory..
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pwcllinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <gravemind> I'll restart now
[05:34] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: interesting.  the live CD doesn't write to the disk, so you're out of memory I guess.  does closing some applications help?
[05:34] <Wimpog> GUYS from #upstart don't know about inittab
[05:34] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus i don't have much application open
[05:35] <ubuntu_cry> hey peoples please wait i;m restarting
[05:35] <sable> I typed in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and it stop it stopped the display manager, but when I run my vid card driver install, it still says I am running the X server
[05:35] <sable> Any other ways to stop the X server?
[05:36] <PwcrLinux> same mines, when my HD died, I put the live CD, work prefectly, I can use USB flashdisk to save something from the downloads..
[05:36] <PwcrLinux> easy way
[05:36] <cables> Is anyone curious why ubuntu_cry has ntfs but no windows to chkdsk it?
[05:36] <unop> sable,  hmm, try this command to ensure gdm isnt running - sudo killall -9 gdm
[05:36] <sable> k
[05:37] <cables> PwcrLinux, dooglus, Is anyone curious why ubuntu_cry has ntfs but no windows to chkdsk it?
[05:37] <gemini9> having a hell of a time her
[05:37] <gemini9> here
[05:37] <mackinac> go to a diff tty...
[05:37] <PwcrLinux> cables: his windows OS gone, probably he don't have other machine.
[05:37] <dooglus> Wimpog: are the links on http://mailhost.cecs.pdx.edu/pipermail/osinternals/2007-January/000002.html any use?
[05:37] <GMWeezel> How can I install Windows 98 on my dual booted Ubuntu Dapper and Windows MCE computer? I know Windows has a habbit of wiping the MBR.
[05:37] <unop> cables,  well, the question arises, do you need windows to have an ntfs partition? :>
[05:37] <elyon225> Could someone please tell me how to exit X (so I can install the nvidia drivers)?
[05:37] <cables> PwcrLinux, how's his windows OS gone before he even started installing Ubuntu?
[05:37] <gemini9> hahaha
[05:37] <frogzoo> GMWeezel: install doze to a spare partition, then restore grub
[05:37] <cables> elyon225, ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:38] <frogzoo> !grub | GMWeezel
[05:38] <ubotu> GMWeezel: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:38] <dooglus> cables: he has windows, but it doesn't boot.  I guess that's why he's using ubuntu - he wants to fix his windows.
[05:38] <gemini9> you could get windows 3.11
[05:38] <elyon225> cables: No, that restarts it... I want to END it.
[05:38] <GMWeezel> Thanks.
[05:38] <zeeeeeee> hi all, i'm currently using ubuntu 6.06. how do i upgrade to 6.10? update manager doesn't show me the upgrade button.
[05:38] <dooglus> elyon225: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:38] <cables> dooglus, he should get knoppix to fix windows... it's better at fixing stuff.
[05:38] <unop> elyon225,  sudo killall gdm
[05:38] <cables> !edgyupgrades | zeeeeeee
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgyupgrades - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <PwcrLinux> cables: he read the instruction, he didn't get read correctly or pressed the wrong keys..
[05:38] <elyon225> dooglus: That's the one I couldn't remember... thank you.
[05:38] <ubuntu_cry> hey i ;m back
[05:38] <cables> !edgyupgrade | zeeeeeee
[05:38] <ubuntu_cry> lets go now
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgyupgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <ubuntu_cry> what was the command
[05:38] <PwcrLinux> wb
[05:38] <cables> damn i thought that would work
[05:38] <sable> I tried sudo killall -9 gdm, but it says no process killed
[05:39] <zeeeeeee> :)
[05:39] <ubuntu_cry> thanks man
[05:39] <lineman60> ok, rebooted and got my wireless card to show back up
[05:39] <sable> and I still get the same error, that the X server is running, and I need to shut it down to continue
[05:39] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: do you have a knoppix CD?  cables says knoppix is better at fixing ntfs than ubuntu is
[05:39] <unop> sable,  do you use kubuntu?
[05:39] <sable> no, ubuntu
[05:39] <Mixx> I've got dd running - is there a way to see how fast it's running?  is there a way to see how much a process has read/written?
[05:39] <zorba64> sable, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:39] <unop> sable,  ok, do you use another display manager, KDM or XMD, perhaps?
[05:39] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus yes but i try with KNoppix and the problem is the same
[05:39] <Wimpog> dooglus: I'll read it, thanks
[05:39] <cables> dooglus, i just know that it mounts ntfs automatically... and it's designed as a usable livecd, not a test-and-install livecd
[05:39] <sable> I use gnome unop
[05:39] <sable> I have zorba
[05:40] <sable> sry unop, I can't PM
[05:40] <cables> ubuntu_cry, why do you have an NTFS partition, but no windows?
[05:40] <ubuntu_cry> cables becouse before i have 200gb and the disk has been damaged
[05:40] <ubuntu_cry> cables and today i will return to Seagate
[05:40] <unop> sable,  is the X process listed in - ps aux | grep X
[05:40] <gravemin1> calamari: Sound Works Again!!!
[05:40] <ubuntu_cry> cables and there was the all data saved
[05:40] <cables> ubuntu_cry, if it's damaged, there's little chance you'll be able to do anything to it with Gparted...
[05:41] <dooglus> Mixx: the only way I know is to "strace -p <process-id>" and look at the reads and writes it's doing
[05:41] <gemini9> using KUBUNTU here
[05:41] <calamari> gravemin1: okay cool
[05:41] <ubuntu_cry> cables i have 2 hard disk
[05:41] <cables> gemini9, #kubuntu
[05:41] <ubuntu_cry> one 200gb who is damaged and another is 300gb
[05:41] <zeeeeeee> ah, found http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/610
[05:41] <gemini9> i find Knoppix has no support, but makes a great rescue disc
[05:41] <cables> zeeeeeee, backup first... edgy upgrades go wrong a lot, especially if you've used automatix.
[05:41] <cookthis> whats the command to see hidden folders
[05:41] <ubuntu_cry> 300gb i have 31 gb free and windows can see them,and UBUntu see them but can install UBUntu
[05:42] <cables> cookthis, ls -a
[05:42] <gemini9> i have UBUNTU 6.10 here,nice
[05:42] <dooglus> cookthis: ls -a?
[05:42] <gravemin1> calamari: ok, until I figure out how to install sound in .11 kernel, I'm going to set the default to this .10 kernel, ok?
[05:42] <cookthis> ty
[05:42] <zorba64> ls -a
[05:42] <sable> Yes Unop
[05:42] <ubuntu_cry> PwrcLInux what was the command for ntfs
[05:42] <cables> gravemin1, does your linux-restricted-modules version match that of your linux-image?
[05:42] <n2diy> gemini9: agreed, Knoppix would rock if it had this level of support.
[05:42] <calamari> gravemin1: sounds good.. what were we originally working on.. boot time?  did the splash screen go away?
[05:42] <sable> there is a bunch of stuff still running (firefox, etc)
[05:42] <cookthis> oh
[05:42] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs"
[05:42] <unop> sable,  terminate it then -- killall X
[05:42] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus thanks man
[05:42] <PwcrLinux> ubuntu_cry: see dooglus's say
[05:43] <cookthis> and any idea why i cant play MP3's and play games at the same time? when i play mp3s game sound doesnt work
[05:43] <unop> sable,  and try your thingy again .. it should work hopefully
[05:43] <gravemin1> calamari: the linux-restricted-modules updated automatically along with the linux-image
[05:43] <n2diy> cookthis: cpu overload?
[05:43] <ubuntu_cry> ok and them dooglys when i have installed it
[05:43] <ubuntu_cry> dooglys what i need to do.
[05:43] <gravemin1> calamari: the splash screen is back I'm afraid :) I think it's only disabled for the .11 kernel
[05:43] <Mr1> Can anyone help me with iwconfig?
[05:43] <cookthis> n2diy: it works under windows do u think its a game bug or a ubuntu bug
[05:43] <GoingCrazy> can anybody help me with beryl and xgl with a 3d desktop ... it went to a blank install after following the instructions
[05:43] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: I don't know how safe it is to use 'ntfsfix'
[05:43] <cables> gravemin1, you can make it disable automatically for everything
[05:44] <cables> GoingCrazy, #ubuntu-effects
[05:44] <lineman60> quit (reboot)
[05:44] <trelayne> hi all, I've update my xorg.conf and can't get it to load... I need to use the legacy nvidia drivers... anyone know what might be wrong?
[05:44] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus why?
[05:44] <ubuntu_cry> !defrag
[05:44] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[05:44] <gravemin1> cables, calamari: I thought I saw usplash in "bum"
[05:44] <cookthis> GoingCrazy:  just out of curiosity do u have an ATI?
[05:44] <cables> gravemin1, calamari, don't disable it there
[05:44] <GoingCrazy> yes
[05:44] <calamari> gravemin1: look on line 133 of your pastebin
[05:44] <GoingCrazy> i have a radeon 200
[05:44] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: because Microsoft keep the specifications for NTFS secret, so any Linux tool that works with NTFS is kind of guessing how best to work with it
[05:44] <marshall> ubuntu_cry: lol, thats why i love linux
[05:45] <cookthis> GoingCrazy: your gona have a very hard time installing beryl with an ATI, its tricky getting direct rendering working and opengl support at the same time ect ect
[05:45] <ubuntu_cry> Bad MIcrosoft pfuuu
[05:45] <cables> gravemin1, you can disable it and have it stay disabled for every new kernel by editing menu.lst
[05:45] <n2diy> cookthis: my guess is a Ubuntu bug. Gaming software isn't well supported in linux, since the game makers, and the folks that make the sound cards, don't release there specs to the linux folks.
[05:45] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus ok then leave
[05:45] <cookthis> ati linux drivers = *blurrt*
[05:45] <marshall> because MS is a bunch of baboons
[05:45] <GoingCrazy> but is it possible ?
[05:45] <cookthis> n2diy: okay thanks
[05:45] <Mixx> dooglus - thanks I'll check that out
[05:45] <cookthis> GoingCrazy: i tried for 2 days and i codun't do it
[05:45] <PwcrLinux> "powerchair bulldozed M$ out" hehehe
[05:45] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus i will try to put the drive in windows 2003
[05:45] <gravemin1> cables: I edited menu.lst before but the splash screen came back for the older kernel
[05:45] <billybob> marshall: sure, thats how bil gates became the riches person on earth, becasue he has loads of baboons working for him . . .
[05:45] <sable> Stopped Gnome, killed it, killed al lx process by number, and no more were running, did a killall and killall -9 on X
[05:45] <cookthis> but i wouldn't say its impossible
[05:45] <GoingCrazy> i was reading comments ... at least 2 or three people got it working with the same card
[05:45] <sable> and the x server is still running
[05:45] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: that's safer.
[05:46] <cables> gravemin1, did you edit it on the specific kernel, or on the automatic options section?
[05:46] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus THanks man
[05:46] <Mr1> Wireless help anyone?
[05:46] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: you may need to adjust the jumper on the drive to get it detected as a slave.
[05:46] <ubuntu_cry> Thanks of the all peoples for the help
[05:46] <cables> !wifi | Mr1
[05:46] <gravemin1> cables, the specific kernel line
[05:46] <ubotu> Mr1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:46] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus ok that is not the problem.
[05:46] <sable> Is there a way to start Ubuntu without loading X?
[05:46] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: put it on a separate IDE cable if possible
[05:46] <gravemin1> calamari, cables: what does "quiet" do? maybe if I disable that it will give more debug info
[05:46] <cables> gravemin1, I can tell you where to edit it to make it permanent
[05:46] <calamari> gravemin1: my wife and I are going to go eat dinner.. good luck with your splash and speedup
[05:46] <gravemin1> cables: ok
[05:46] <cookthis> dooglus: select boot into debug mode
[05:46] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus ???? i have master and slave???
[05:46] <cables> gravemin1, it should
[05:46] <gravemin1> calamari: ok, thanks for all your help
[05:47] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: gl man.
[05:47] <cookthis> dooglus: sorry wrong person
[05:47] <cables> gravemin1, do you want to do the splash disable now?
[05:47] <dooglus> cookthis: ?  have you got the wro... yes.
[05:47] <jen_> drooglus: which packages section is ntfsprogs in ?
[05:47] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus perdon i speak for the cables
[05:47] <gravemin1> cables: yes
[05:47] <cookthis> sable: boot into debug mode when your at the grub splash
[05:47] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy is it like gl driver?
[05:47] <marshall> billybob: i didnt say he had baboons working for him, i said that they are all baboons and I guess in this society, a baboon can be revered for being in the right place at the right time and stealing from people who trusted him
[05:47] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: hopefully everything is set up for auto-detect.  but it's possible that both your drives are set as 'masters'
[05:47] <trelayne> All,  I would like to install nvidia-glx-legacy  but for some reason, the apt-get says that it is referred to by another name?
[05:47] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: gl, good luck. :)
[05:48] <sable> cookthis: what is GRUB?
[05:48] <marshall> billybob: imbecile
[05:48] <gravemin1> !GRUB
[05:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:48] <PwcrLinux> bootloader
[05:48] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: there's a little bit of plastic on some metal pins on the drive which you may need to move.  there will be a diagram near it showing what it means
[05:48] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy hmmm aha that was in program language gl >Th.Man
[05:48] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus ok i will try.
[05:48] <cookthis> sable: the default boot loader for ubuntu
[05:48] <ubuntu_cry> THanks again on all peoples
[05:48] <ubuntu_cry> im off.
[05:48] <dooglus> good luck
[05:48] <n2diy> ubuntu_cry: gl man, good luck, dude! :)
[05:48] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus thanks
[05:48] <sable> I don't use a bootloader, it boots straight into UBUNTU
[05:48] <cables> gravemin1, look for the line that says # defoptions
[05:49] <ubuntu_cry> n2diy ok lets see now.
[05:49] <zorba64> GRand Unified Bootloader
[05:49] <cables> gravemin1, remove "splash", then run "sudo update-grub"
[05:49] <gravemin1> cables: ok, found it
[05:49] <gravemin1> cables, what about "quiet"
[05:49] <cables> gravemin1, don't disable that there
[05:49] <gravemin1> ok
[05:49] <cables> gravemin1, if you want to do it temporarily, you can do that when you boot.
[05:49] <gravemin1> ok I deleted splash
[05:50] <gravemin1> I'm going to change default to point to the .10 kernel now too
[05:50] <cables> gravemin1, when you boot into the grub menu next time, just highlight the kernel you want to boot, hit e, and edit the kernel line to remove quiet.
[05:50] <gravemin1> cables: can I do that for splash as well?
[05:50] <cables> gravemin1, yes, if you want to do it temporarily
[05:51] <gravemin1> cool ok
[05:51] <cables> gravemin1, i thought you wanted it permanent?
[05:51] <gravemin1> no
[05:51] <gravemin1> I wanted to see why it was taking so long that's all
[05:51] <cables> gravemin, then make sure not to save the file
[05:51] <dooglus> gravemin1: deleting quiet will just make the boot less quiet...
[05:51] <gravemin1> dooglus: what do you mean?
[05:52] <dooglus> gravemin1: it'll display more messages about what's going on
[05:52] <cables> dooglus, that's what he wants...
[05:52] <dooglus> 'quiet' suppresses the messages
[05:52] <dooglus> cables: right.
[05:52] <gravemin1> dooglus: yeah, I want to see why it's so slow for the time being
[05:52] <cables> dooglus, gravemin1 wants to do that, so he can see what's going on, in case there's an error there
[05:52] <dooglus> I prefer not using quiet.  then I can see straight away what's taking the longest
[05:53] <gravemin1> cables: at this point, can I also add some more things to the grub menu?
[05:53] <cables> gravemin1, just don't screw anything up...
[05:53] <dooglus> cables: I don't think the update-grub step is needed - it updates automatically
[05:53] <sable> Odd
[05:53] <gravemin1> cables: I have another ubuntu partition I want to add to the boot menu, how do I do that?
[05:53] <cables> dooglus, if you edit the default options section, you do
[05:53] <sable> I can no logner start a terminal, it just says "starting terminal" and then disappears
[05:54] <cables> gravemin1, i have no idea...
[05:54] <n2diy> gravemin1: one thing at a time.
[05:54] <gravemin1> cables: It used to be on there. n2diy, lol ok
[05:54] <dooglus> cables: I'm not sure.  I don't think that's the case though
[05:54] <cables> dooglus, editing the default options won't change the individual kernels 'till you run that.
[05:55] <dooglus> cables: ok
[05:55] <cables> dooglus, if he edited the kernel lines he wouldn't have to do that, but the settings wouldn't stick.
[05:55] <sable> Any ideas besides restarting my comp that may fix the terminal so that it loads? (I'm in the middle of a download, so I don't want to restart)
[05:55] <lwizardl> Hi
[05:55] <sable> Hello
[05:56] <dooglus> I don't understand grub really.  I've got an old ubuntu partition that I want to delete, but I can't because that's where the grub menu is
[05:56] <cables> sable, use xterm instead
[05:56] <sable> cables: how do I start it?
[05:56] <cables> sable, terminal :)
[05:56] <cables> sable, just kidding
[05:56] <cables> sable, alt-f2
[05:56] <dooglus> alt-f2
[05:56] <sable> oh
[05:56] <deal> anyone know any thing about a wap 11
[05:56] <sable> I wanted to use in GUI terminal so I could copy and paste
[05:56] <lwizardl> anyone try ubuntu on a compaq proliant 6400r server
[05:57] <dabaR> dooglus: oh, come on, that is such a bad excuse...you should learn.
[05:57] <cables> deal, is that a wi-fi thing?
[05:57] <dooglus> sable: type alt-f2 then xterm
[05:57] <nothlit> dooglus: so move the menu and kernels..
[05:57] <sable> oh
[05:57] <sable> ok
[05:57] <deal> cables, ya made by linksys
[05:57] <cables> !wifi | deal
[05:57] <ubotu> deal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:57] <dooglus> dabaR: I've got a copy of the menu on my 'live' partition, but it's never used.  how do I tell grub to use a different partition?
[05:57] <coach_z> can anybody help me to setup a computer boot from a network??? im a complete noob and will need a lot of help with this
[05:57] <deal> anyone know anything about m0n0wall
[05:58] <cables> !m0n0wall
[05:58] <sable> dooglus: I type xterm, hit run, and nothing happens
[05:58] <dooglus> !info m0n0wall
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m0n0wall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <ubotu> Package m0n0wall does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[05:58] <deal> it's based on the bsd kernal
[05:58] <dooglus> sable: you can try control-alt-f1 to get to a terminal.  and alt-f7 to get back here.
[05:58] <n2diy> coach_z: if you are a newb, why would you attempt such an install?
[05:58] <cables> deal, then this is the wrong place to ask...
[05:58] <spike723_> is there informatin on getting ubuntu set up with root on nfs? ie: diskless ubuntu?
[05:59] <d0uglas> currently my wifi only fires up when i log in on a gnome session... how can i get it fired up on boot, before the desktop manager goes on?
[05:59] <deal> coach_z, you need a server to do a net install
[05:59] <cables> d0uglas, are you using NetworkManager?
[05:59] <d0uglas> yeah
[05:59] <zero-1> How can I run a test on my memory on X?
[05:59] <cables> d0uglas, no way to fix that i'm afraid... you have to use the regular system for that.
[05:59] <coach_z> n2diy: my spare HD kicked the bucket and that was to be used on this machine
[05:59] <d0uglas> and kde's equiv doesn't work so good
[06:00] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i've just installed the keyboard from the logitech cordless mx duo, and the F-keys aren't working
[06:00] <d0uglas> damn so to let mom use kde i gotta log in on a separate x session as myself on a gnome de?
[06:00] <IcemanV9> !netinstall | coach_z
[06:00] <ubotu> coach_z: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:00] <n2diy> coach_z: sorry, I mis-read your question, I thought you wanted to install over the network, not boot from it. Good luck.
[06:00] <dabaR> dooglus: well, I would have to read a little bit from the recovering grub wiki page to know exactly, but it is not hard. Or something similar on the help.ubuntu.com site.
[06:00] <coach_z> deal: okay, that sounds like i am just going to have to find a new HD
[06:00] <morka> hi all
[06:00] <spike723_> I have a nfs serve set up that I netboot freebsd and netbsd from
[06:00] <spike723_> but I wanna try with ubuntu also
[06:00] <spike723_> with a pxe client
[06:00] <sc4ttrbrain> hi guys :)
[06:00] <CoRnJuLiOx> is there something i need to do to get the f-keys working in linux?
[06:00] <morka> I have this browser appliance virtual machine from vmware, it's apparently loaded with ubuntu breezy
[06:00] <floobit> any advice on HAL failing and not being able to access user permissions?  should I wipe and start over?
[06:01] <morka> how do I upgrade it to at least dapper?
[06:01] <sc4ttrbrain> is there a solution for read and write acces of HFS+ partition(mac os x) ?
[06:01] <morka> or even better, edgy
[06:01] <n2diy> morka: what are you running now?
[06:01] <cables> !hfs
[06:01] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:01] <morka> n2diy: breezy
[06:01] <dabaR> !upgrade > morka
[06:01] <IcemanV9> morka: change the sources.lst from breezy to dapper
[06:01] <morka> thats it?
[06:01] <d0uglas> then apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:01] <zero-1> how can i test my memory on X?
[06:02] <gravemin1> cables: so I save menu.lst then do sudo update-grub?
[06:02] <morka> allright
[06:02] <cables> morka, that's probably a bad idea
[06:02] <dooglus> !info memtester
[06:02] <ubotu> memtester: A utility for testing the memory subsystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.93.1-3.1 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:02] <cables> That's what I've heard...
[06:02] <morka> i was just expecting im going to get into a major mess
[06:02] <morka> cables, why is that?
[06:02] <IcemanV9> morka: yep and read more info from ubotu as well
[06:02] <n2diy> morka: Breezy is 5.10 right? Upgrade to Dagger, and, if you insist, then Edgy, but don't jump over Dapper.
[06:02] <cables> gravemin1, you should make a backup though...
[06:02] <dabaR> ya, about that dagger....
[06:02] <dooglus> zero-1: "memtester" is a console app.  is that OK?
[06:02] <gravemin1> just of the menu.lst file right?
[06:02] <n2diy> *Dagger/Dapper
[06:02] <morka> n2diy: so it's best to upgrade one step over?
[06:02] <cables> gravemin1, yep
[06:02] <zero-1> thanks dooglus
[06:02] <sc4ttrbrain> no , i can mount it automatically butr, i dont have read and write access to hfs+
[06:03] <IcemanV9> cables: morka is using vmware image :)
[06:03] <morka> yeah
[06:03] <kitche> !permissions | sc4ttrbrain
[06:03] <ubotu> sc4ttrbrain: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:03] <cables> IcemanV9, good point, not much to break
[06:03] <morka> so if it blows, i live:)
[06:03] <cables> yep :)
[06:03] <zero-1> the thing is I tried the memtest at boot but I dont know wheter is good or bad cn it be foxed or not it just wont stop
[06:03] <sc4ttrbrain> is there a solution for read and write acces of HFS+ partition(mac os x) ? i can mount it as read only ...
[06:03] <n2diy> morka: no, don't skip a distro, follow the order.
[06:03] <cables> morka, you could just put an ubuntu install ISO as a CD and install to the vm...
[06:03] <morka> n2diy: is it better just to run a fresh install?
[06:03] <dooglus> morka: the only upgrade path supported is to go one step at a time
[06:03] <morka> cables, yes, but im willing to learn how to upgrade now
[06:04] <morka> before i jump in head first.
[06:04] <sc4ttrbrain> kitche, how to get read and write access in hfs+ partition ?
[06:04] <n2diy> morka: yes, IMO, provided you are backed up, or are willing to lose stuff.
[06:04] <morka> im not willing to lose anything
[06:04] <mharris_> hey i just installed awn from svn
[06:04] <morka> but im backed up.
[06:04] <gravemin1> cables: ok, I'm calling it a night
[06:04] <mharris_> after downloading the source
[06:04] <IcemanV9> morka: like others said, just go from breezy > dapper > edgy > soon-to-be feisty
[06:04] <mharris_> after make install
[06:04] <kitche> sc4ttrbrain: go tot the filepermssions link then to volume permission on that page
[06:04] <morka> allright
[06:04] <mharris_> when i type the executable in the command line
[06:04] <mharris_> it launches the old one
[06:04] <mharris_> what gives?
[06:05] <n2diy> morka: If /home isn't on it's own partition, and you don't know what you are doing, you should be learning how to back up, not upgrade.
[06:05] <kitche> mharris_: you sure it's the old one?
[06:05] <mharris_> yes
[06:05] <dooglus> mharris_: do "./awn" to run the awn in the current directory
[06:05] <IcemanV9> morka: just back up your vmware image overlay; so you can start over if need :)
[06:05] <mharris_> thats how i know
[06:05] <mharris_> when i new that on the new executable
[06:05] <morka> n2diy: i just copied my vmware image :)
[06:05] <mharris_> its different
[06:05] <dooglus> mharris_: or set your PATH variable to have the new executable's directory before the old one's
[06:05] <morka> IcemanV9, yeah, that's what ive done
[06:05] <n2diy> morka: I'm not familiar with VMware.
[06:06] <mharris_> how to remove the old one?
[06:06] <morka> its an emulator.
[06:06] <IcemanV9> morka: well, you're ready to go! :)
[06:06] <mharris_> id rather have the new executable be installed
[06:06] <morka> its doing something.
[06:06] <mharris_> when i run make install
[06:06] <kitche> mharris_: it is installed
[06:06] <kitche> mharris_: it's probably in /usr/local/bin
[06:06] <morka> oh well
[06:06] <n2diy> morka: Winders emulator? I will never be familiar with it then. :)
[06:06] <dooglus> mharris_: run "type aws" to see which one it's running
[06:06] <sc4ttrbrain> kitche, do u really know what my problem is? or just random info? because i know how to change it....
[06:07] <dabaR> !awn
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <mharris_> when i do which
[06:07] <mharris_> it says /usr/local/bin
[06:07] <dooglus> mharris_: when you did "sudo make install" it should have shown you where it installed to
[06:07] <morka> n2diy: its a cross platform emulator
[06:07] <kitche> sc4ttrbrain: yes I told you how to do it if you won't do it then it's your problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VolumePermissions is the page that you want exactly
[06:07] <morka> you can run anything on anything
[06:08] <morka> basically like xen or parallels.
[06:08] <pavs> debsum is running in the background and hogging my system how can i stop it
[06:08] <n2diy> morka: Anything on anything!? My Vic-20 stuff will run on it?
[06:08] <mharris_> hmm
[06:08] <dooglus> pavs: sudo pkill debsum
[06:08] <MikeB-> evening all
[06:08] <sc4ttrbrain> kitche,well i actually done it yesterday, but still i cant write on hfs+ partition :(
[06:08] <morka> n2diy: is it x86 :) ?
[06:09] <mharris_> it says nothing to be done for
[06:09] <mharris_> and then a bunch of files
[06:09] <morka> can I install debian packages on ubuntu?
[06:09] <morka> or is it a bad idea?
[06:09] <pavs> thanks but when I restart it will comeback, how can i stop it from runnig without permission'
[06:09] <DLB|Maximus> can someone tell me where i can get a list of third party repositories so i can install ndiswrapper?
[06:10] <n2diy> morka: Umm, no, if IRCC, it is Moto 6800, or something like that. Seriously, I'm wasting your time, maybe someone else can help you, good luck.
[06:10] <sc4ttrbrain> kitche,i m thinking that maybe i need third party software (some fuse fs) or anything to get write access
[06:10] <sable> DO any of you know of a good download manager/accelerator for linux?
[06:10] <yamathan> Quick question -- what's the verdict on DRI support in the most recent proprietary fglrx binary?
[06:10] <unop> !info ndiswrapper
[06:10] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[06:10] <unop> :o
[06:10] <yamathan> sable:  freeloader is good.
[06:10] <sable> Thanks
[06:10] <DLB|Maximus> unop: :)
[06:10] <yamathan> So is downloadthemall! in conjunction in terms of a Firefox extension.
[06:10] <unop> !info ndiswrapper-common
[06:11] <dooglus> morka: it's generally a bad idea
[06:11] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-common: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:11] <yamathan> wget is a good command-line one.
[06:11] <sc4ttrbrain> !hfs
[06:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:11] <unop> DLB|Maximus,  :) ^^
[06:11] <sc4ttrbrain> !fuse
[06:11] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:11] <yamathan> Y'know ...
[06:11] <DLB|Maximus> ubotu: its in the main?
[06:11] <yamathan> I hate to sound to snotty, but I just want my ATI card to work, you know?
[06:11] <sc4ttrbrain> ubotu is a bot ;)
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <DLB|Maximus> component main?
[06:12] <sable> Would it be beneficial to just install -Everything- in the package manager? That way I do not have to worry about installingany of them later?
[06:12] <n2diy> ! ubotu | DLB|Maximus
[06:12] <ubotu> DLB|Maximus: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:12] <yamathan> I love the fact that I can fuck with Linux as much as I want, but, uh, I want my ATI card to WORK.  I don't care if the binary is proprietary or not for some applications.
[06:12] <unop> !language | yamathan
[06:12] <ubotu> yamathan: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:13] <yamathan> Oh, sorry unop.
[06:13] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: lol, i didnt expect a bot to answer my question when i didnt direct the question at it :)
[06:13] <n2diy> ! language | yamathan
[06:13] <sable> !language ubotu
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <sable> !language | ubotu
[06:13] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:13] <unop> yamathan,  kids and women frequent this channel .. they'd appreciate some gentlemanleness :)
[06:13] <unop> !botabuse | sable  :)
[06:13] <ubotu> sable  :): Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:14] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: the bot didn't, I told it to.
[06:14] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: the first time i asked?
[06:14] <sable> Would it be beneficial to just install -Everything- in the package manager? That way I do not have to worry about installingany of them later?
[06:14] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: i must have missed that
[06:14] <yamathan> Eh, sometimes I forget that not everyone curses produsely.
[06:14] <yamathan> sable:  That'd be great if some packages don't contradict one another.
[06:14] <sable> Oh
[06:14] <yamathan> And if you have conflicting repositories ...
[06:15] <sable> So how do I stop X server?  I dont have grub, so I can't enter debug mode
[06:15] <yamathan> Hmm?  Isn't there a special boot --debug command?
[06:15] <dooglus> sable: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:15] <sc4ttrbrain> is there a solution for read and write acces of HFS+ partition(mac os x) ? i can mount it as read only ...
[06:15] <sable> And I when i tell it to stop with /etc/init.d/gdm stop, it says it stopped it, but it doesn't.  I tried killing all the processes, it didn't work either
[06:16] <unop> yamathan,  have you followed the instructions as per !ati ?
[06:16] <yamathan> What's the verdict on ATI R300 support as of the 8.33.thingamajig?
[06:16] <yamathan> Unop, I'm a little leery -- the last time I did the DRI issues were ... not good.
[06:16] <shatrat> yamathan, r300 is 9x00 series right?
[06:17] <yamathan> *thingamajig = update
[06:17] <unop> yamathan,  things change quite fast with ubuntu -- :)
[06:17] <yamathan> I thought it was the x1000series.
[06:17] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: I missed something to, I told ubotu, to explain it was a bot to you.
[06:17] <yamathan> Unop -- I think it was ... what, four months ago?
[06:17] <unop> yamathan,  worth a try then , definitely :)
[06:17] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: i caught that part
[06:18] <yamathan> And THEN an apt-get update and an apt-get upgrade later and it all broke again.
[06:18] <yamathan> HARD.
[06:18] <dooglus> sable: run a "ps -Hef | less" and find the X process.  what's directly above it?
[06:18] <yamathan> I'll try though!
[06:18] <yamathan> The worst that can happen is that I'll need to try again.
[06:18] <yamathan> !ati
[06:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:19] <sc4ttrbrain> is there a solution for read and write acces of HFS+ partition(mac os x) ? i can mount it as read only ...
[06:19] <morka> mac mini, ipod, some intel mainboards, and dell desktops are made in the same factory.
[06:19] <yamathan> This might be relevant to the ATI debate, though.
[06:19] <morka> interesting
[06:19] <yamathan> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=639&num=1
[06:19] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: im still confused about ndiswrapper though, for software soucres i have universe, main, multiverse, and restricted selected, but when i go to add/remove and search for ndiswrapper it doesnt find anything
[06:19] <yamathan> It's a site dedicated to Linux gaming.
[06:19] <yamathan> Special emphasis on video drivers, of course.
[06:19] <yamathan> That particular article is on the open-source vs. proprietary binary drivers for ATI cards.
[06:20] <samuel> anyone know how to enable mysql server from any host?
[06:20] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: I can't help, I'm not running any wireless cards here. Have you updated your sources?
[06:21] <yamathan> As great as benchmarks are, uh, I'd rather know if it'll play nice with DRI.
[06:21] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: after i selected the internet sources it downloaded a updated list if thats what your talking about...
[06:22] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: i was trying to figure out where to get a list of third party repositories, then i stumbled upon a howto that says to select universe to get ndiswrapper but it didnt help
[06:22] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: Ok, keep in mind, your packages are cached locally, so when you uninstall something, and go to fetch it again, your are just getting it from your cache.
[06:22] <sable> dooglus: what does X show up at in ps?
[06:23] <CoRnJuLiOx> how do i check where teh boot loader is installed? i've got 2 Hard drives in my pc rightn ow
[06:23] <lineman60> any one here good with wireless?
[06:23] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: this is a brand new install, and all i have done is add those sources
[06:23] <dooglus> sable: /usr/bin/X :0 -dpi 96 or something
[06:23] <IcemanV9> !wifi | lineman60
[06:23] <ubotu> lineman60: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:23] <Pelo> !wireless | lineman60
[06:23] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: what did you use to set up the new repos?
[06:24] <ubuntu_cry> hmm
[06:24] <ubuntu_cry> no
[06:24] <ubuntu_cry> WIndows say that this hard disk is RAW
[06:24] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: system > administration > software sources... i selected the other internet sources that were not checked and let it update
[06:25] <yamathan> Hmm ..
[06:25] <yamathan> *...
[06:25] <ubuntu_cry> doogys
[06:25] <ubuntu_cry> doogys no it won't work
[06:25] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: hi
[06:25] <yamathan> Is there any special characteristic I need to be aware of with this binary regarding All In Wonder cards?
[06:25] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus hi man
[06:25] <yamathan> It's supposed to be a Radeon x1300 effectively.
[06:25] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus it won't work man
[06:25] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: What ver. of Ubuntu are you running? On Dapper, I use sys-admin-synaptic.
[06:25] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: RAW, hmm.  not heard of that before.
[06:26] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus that say chkdsk
[06:26] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: what happened to break this windows install?  did you try resizing it, and that broke it?
[06:26] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: 6.10 edgy?
[06:26] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus i try and it can't do it
[06:26] <kazuka> when is ubuntu for playstation 3 gonna comeout?
[06:26] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: i mean 6.10 is that edgy?
[06:26] <Dingbat> Hello -- I've been running Ubuntu for two weeks now and I have just one irritant I can't seem to figure out.  My webcam (Creative) doesn't want to work (always getting a can't found /dev/video0 message) help?
[06:26] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: yes, but why did it break to start with?
[06:26] <Dingbat> Running 6.10 edgy
[06:26] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus i gnomepart
[06:26] <yamathan> Thanks for referring me to ati, everyone.
[06:26] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: So no Synaptic option in sys-admin?
[06:27] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus in gnomepart or in chkdsk
[06:27] <sc4ttrbrain> is there a solution for read and write acces of HFS+ partition(mac os x) ? i can mount it as read only ...
[06:27] <yamathan> Especially you, unop.
[06:27] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: yeah, just found it in there...
[06:28] <dooglus> !fglrx
[06:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:28] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: Ok try that, there is a preferences option, or something like that in the menus, where you can click check boxes, to add the additonal repos.
[06:28] <ubuntu_cry> dooglus man i'm going to sleep good day.
[06:29] <dooglus> ubuntu_cry: good night.
[06:29] <DLB|Maximus> n2diy: i found it in there, whats the diff between add/remove and synaptic?
[06:29] <jen_> with Edgy ..how do i tell mgetty to respawn ie: inittab style
[06:29] <Dingbat> Hello -- I've been running Ubuntu for two weeks now and I have just one irritant I can't seem to figure out.  My webcam (Creative) doesn't want to work (always getting a can't found /dev/video0 message) help?
[06:29] <jen_> ?
[06:29] <leafw> mshade: the tutorial at ubuntu-in doesn't match: can't see the expected /dev/mapper/* device
[06:29] <dooglus> DLB|Maximus: synaptic is just a gui for the command line install/remove
[06:29] <n2diy> DLB|Maximus: It is there to confuse both the newbs and vets alike!
[06:29] <Wimpog> so does anybody know if there is an equivalent of inittab?
[06:30] <kazuka> when is ubuntu for playstation 3 gonna comeout??
[06:30] <Wimpog> in edgy
[06:30] <Pelo> DLB|Maximus,  synaptic gives you the choice of all the packages indivitualy,  add/remove is more program oriented and noob friendly
[06:30] <IcemanV9> !webcam | Dingbat
[06:30] <ubotu> Dingbat: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:30] <Pelo> dooglus,  you'Re thinking of apt-get
[06:30] <dooglus> Pelo: yes.  I forgot about the gui add/remote thing
[06:30] <n2diy> kazuka: when the moon falls down. :)
[06:30] <bobo> hey everyone I'm in trouble I have Fedora Core 6 with grub and I don't know how to restore my windows MBR and I don't have a windows installation CD nor a floppy disk drive
[06:30] <lineman60> IcemanV9  wifi works but it keeps dieing off,
[06:31] <DLB|Maximus> Pelo: it just confused me as add/remove didnt find ndiswrapper and synaptic did
[06:31] <bobo> Ubuntu also does not want to install over Fedora Core for some reason
[06:31] <DLB|Maximus> Pelo: so i was wondering what the diff was
[06:31] <Pelo> DLB|Maximus,  must be a repo issue or a typo,  I found it no problem
[06:31] <alexius> hey all
[06:31] <bobo> can anyone tell me how to fix MBR without a windows installation disk
[06:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> bobo, configure ur grub
[06:32] <alexius> I have a problem regarding php, I currently am running lightspeed websever and I am trying to install a blog, The problem is it says I dont have php_uploads ON and on my php.ini it says I do.
[06:32] <IcemanV9> lineman60: even when you're at least 1/2 meter away?
[06:32] <fiberchunks> !grub
[06:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:32] <fiberchunks> !grub | bobo
[06:32] <ubotu> bobo: please see above
[06:33] <dooglus> bobo: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html ?
[06:33] <alexius> Can anyone help me?
[06:33] <dooglus> alexius: #php ?
[06:33] <alexius> dooglus: its regarding php for a webserver.
[06:34] <DLB|Maximus> Pelo: in add/remove?
[06:34] <kitche> alexius: so ask in lightspeed webserver channel not sure what it is though
[06:34] <jeffery> does anyone know where I can get php4-oracle drivers package ?
[06:35] <Pelo> DLB|Maximus,  I found it in synaptic,  it might not be in add/remove, add/remove is more for user program, not for services or libs
[06:35] <bobo> I don't want to restore grub dooglus, I want to restore the Windows MBR
[06:35] <bobo> but i dont have a windows CD
[06:35] <kitche> bobo: you need a windows install cd or a recovery cd
[06:35] <fiberchunks> indeed
[06:35] <Christopher> Hi
[06:36] <bobo> kitche: i dont have one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:36] <DLB|Maximus> Pelo: ok, thats what i was talking about, i found it in synaptic...
[06:36] <n2diy> kitche: , bobo, or a live linux cd that can get you into winders restore routine, I did that a couple of year ago with Knoppix
[06:36] <Christopher> My eth0 wont start when the machine is rebooted. I have to manually ifup eth0 for it to work.
[06:36] <Christopher> Can someone help me?
[06:37] <jeffery> does anyone know where I can get php4-oracle drivers package ?
[06:37] <KeysMaker> hi all
[06:37] <Pelo> Christopher,  patience in waiting for your answer,  also look up your problem in the forum
[06:37] <n2diy> Christopher: try system-admin-networking
[06:38] <ahave> could someone help me with setting up gcc?
[06:38] <leafw> hum, what to do when gparted is not listing a raid10 device, but dmraid -ay complains that the device is already active?
[06:38] <ahave> i get this error when compiling a simple prog;  error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[06:38] <ahave> is it not linking to the proper directory?
[06:39] <kitche> ahave: did you install build-essential
[06:39] <ahave> hmm, i dont remember doing so
[06:39] <ahave> with aptitude?
[06:40] <kitche> ahave: if that's what you use
[06:40] <ahave> indeed
[06:40] <sc4ttrbrain> is there a solution for read and write acces of HFS+ partition(mac os x) ? i can mount it as read only ...
[06:40] <ahave> alright, ill do that now
[06:40] <bobo> How can I fix the MBR WITHOUT A FLOPPY OR CD????
[06:40] <fiberchunks> prayer
[06:40] <gandalf[1] > heh
[06:40] <n2diy> ! shouting | bobo
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <Turophile> G'day guys
[06:41] <media_> I have a ubuntu box I'm setting up for family.  Sometimes they don't power off correctly and they have to do a recovery mode to system to boot (otherwise it says there are filesystem inconsistencies).  It also boots and requires the root password which they don't know.  Is there a way to remove the mantainence mode root password request, or to get around the filesystem inconsistency notice that requires an alternative boot method?
[06:41] <n2diy> ! caps | bobo
[06:41] <ubotu> bobo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:41] <gandalf[1] > is it just me or are lots of things broken in edgy ?
[06:41] <sc4ttrbrain> its just u ;)
[06:41] <jen_> anyone setup a ttyS0 for mgetty iin /etc/event.d ?
[06:41] <n2diy> bobo: pay Bill Gates the ransom he wants for a winders disk, and re-install, and kiss all your stuff good bye.
[06:42] <fiberchunks> gandalf[1] , methinks it has to do with the latest kernel upgrade (at least from what I've read in channel past couple of days)
[06:42] <gandalf[1] > I was fighting for a long time trying to get a vnc server working
[06:42] <fiberchunks> bobo: more importantly, why don't you want to use grub to dual boot?
[06:42] <gandalf[1] > I thought I was a retard, until I blew it away and installed 6.06, then I got it working in half an hour
[06:43] <fiberchunks> gandalf[1] , don't feel bad, I _am_ a retard ;)
[06:43] <n2diy> media_: Yes, winders specializes in that type of operation.
[06:43] <jeffery> does anyone know where I can get php4-oracle drivers package ?
[06:43] <Turophile> I don't suppose that anyone here is running a Logitech Quickcam (Dell OEM)?
[06:43] <n2diy> media_: Otherwise, try configuring it as a kiosk.
[06:44] <fiberchunks> hrm, guess bobo didn't really want an answer
[06:45] <ahave> kitche, thanks. that fixed it up
[06:45] <sc4ttrbrain> Turophile, webcam?
[06:45] <gandalf[1] > I'm also kindof annoyed that totem doesn't seem to want to open any files from network shares directly anymore
[06:45] <Turophile> sc4ttrbrain: mhm.  V4L2 only it appears.
[06:45] <gandalf[1] > once upon a time it worked
[06:45] <sc4ttrbrain> Turophile,tried spca5xx?
[06:46] <gandalf[1] > must be regression with gstreamer-0.10
[06:46] <morka> the only reason people dont all switch to linux, is because windows comes preinstalled in the PCs
[06:46] <ahave> kitche, i was also trying to use apt to install JDK but after the install 'javac' was not in my bin directory
[06:46] <kitche> ahave: it might be in /opt/java
[06:47] <fiberchunks> morka, yes, but more importantly, windows is 'comfortable' to most people (ignore the spam, virii, trojans, etc)
[06:47] <ahave> kitche, well whereever it is.. i get the 'bash command : javac not found error
[06:47] <gandalf[1] > I wonder if there is going to be an updated release of edgy or something
[06:47] <gandalf[1] > like 6.10.1 or something
[06:47] <Turophile> sc4ttrbrain: not yet... does ubuntu have that in the tree or am I source scavenging again?
[06:47] <sc4ttrbrain> ahave,whereis javac ? ;)
[06:47] <morka> fiberchunks: it is comfortable, I get no spam virii or trojans
[06:47] <morka> and any software that you download, will work
[06:47] <gandalf[1] > there's some glaring mistakes right out of the box on that one
[06:47] <n2diy> morka: check the bug list, that is #1 on the list.
[06:47] <morka> but its not easy like that with linux
[06:47] <GForXe> it
[06:47] <fiberchunks> morka -- really?  get a copy of vista, and try out either ATI or nvidia drivers please
[06:47] <sc4ttrbrain> Turophile,i m not in ubuntu right now but just look at sourceforge for webcam ;)
[06:47] <ahave> javac:
[06:47] <ahave> ahave@ahave-laptop:~/Downloads/test$
[06:48] <sc4ttrbrain> Turophile,i forgot actualkly :)
[06:48] <fiberchunks> since the majority of windows pre-builts are now shipping with that phenomenal os
[06:48] <Turophile> sc4ttrbrain: sauce is there
[06:48] <ahave> kitche, err. dunno if that worked. but it just returned a line saying "javac:"
[06:48] <gandalf[1] > what are ati's linux drivers like these days?
[06:48] <drvegan> hello
[06:48] <kitche> ahave: which javac
[06:48] <morka> fiberchunks: i work for a large pc manufacturer, one of the big ones
[06:49] <ahave> kitche, what do you mean? Sun's?
[06:49] <morka> vista machines work flawlessly, nvidia/ati drivers included.
[06:49] <ahave> kitche, not IBMs
[06:49] <fiberchunks> gandalf[1] , better, but still crappy compared to nvidia binary from what I've heard :\
[06:49] <visored> is there an easy way to upgrade from breezy badger to the latest release?
[06:49] <drvegan> another chat help guy was helping me mount a partition and i got to the point where it shows the partition (i think) but it just says 12gb free and no files
[06:49] <Turophile> sc4ttrbrain: Found it.
[06:49] <kitche> ahave: the command which javac
[06:49] <sc4ttrbrain> Turophile, i remember sum1 on the forum has the deb ;)
[06:49] <gandalf[1] > visored: really, I'm pretty impressed with how easy it is to compile and install NVidia's drivers _most_ of the time
[06:49] <warri0r> is ther any1 to kindly help me to install a fix for a bug
[06:50] <warri0r> :(
[06:50] <n2diy> visored: only with a fresh install, otherwise you have to work up through the chain.
[06:50] <ahave> kitche, what is that supposed to do? it does and returns nothing
[06:50] <fiberchunks> morka, if so, then why troll on #ubuntu?  Personally, I don't care what you use if it suits your needs, but I've heard a _lot_ of people complain about 3d accel in vista with either nvidia or ati drivers as of late
[06:50] <visored> work up through the chain?
[06:50] <morka> I dont troll
[06:50] <kitche> ahave: ok then for some reason you don't have javac installed if you install jdk
[06:50] <sc4ttrbrain> ahave, that command is to know which javac you are executing
[06:50] <ahave> ah
[06:50] <morka> big bucks are involved with things like that, fiberchunk, they get rectified rather quickly
[06:51] <morka> also, we ship linux on some of our machines:)
[06:51] <n2diy> 5.10-6.06.6.10
[06:51] <ahave> hmm. do you have a link/tut for installing javac/ JDK?
[06:51] <sable> SO after restarting my computer a lot, and a lot of package installs, the NVIDIA installer now says it cannot find the kernel source tree.  I have installed everything that is involed with a kernel source, kernel dev, and kernel tree
[06:51] <sable> Any other ideas?
[06:51] <kitche> ahave: not really sicne I use the open source one now
[06:51] <Turophile> sc4ttrbrain: doesn't support the device
[06:51] <fiberchunks> fair enough -- I misunderstood your comment above then -- essentially, you are arguing _against_ the MS tax, correct?
[06:52] <sc4ttrbrain> Turophile, i have logitech quickcam messenger-- supported, dunno bout yours
[06:52] <kitche> !offtopic
[06:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:52] <n2diy> morka: that is a joke, they get fixed, renamed and you have to pay for them.
[06:52] <Turophile> sc4ttrbrain: Yeah, lsusb doesn't fit.
[06:52] <morka> MS products are not that expensive, I dont know why people think MS is expensive
[06:52] <morka> OEM versions of XP were something like 20-30$ ?
[06:52] <gandalf[1] > sable: make sure you have the _correct_ packages installed, I was running the -386 kernel, but the packages installed were for the -generic kernel
[06:53] <pate4ever> hey, can someone direct me to some literature about how to set up a proxy on my wireless
[06:53] <gandalf[1] > if that makes sense
[06:53] <morka> for homeuser they are practically negigible, its other things that make windows worse
[06:53] <gandalf[1] > I have no idea wtf the difference is
[06:53] <cafuego_> morka: Except you're not allowed to buy an OEM version and put it on your computer.
[06:53] <morka> cafuego: no, you can
[06:53] <gandalf[1] > other than they're in different directories
[06:53] <morka> every time you by a preload - you by an oem
[06:53] <drvegan> can someone help:  another chat help guy was helping me mount a partition and i got to the point where it shows the partition (i think) but it just says 12gb free and no files
[06:53] <cafuego_> You *can* is different from you *may*
[06:53] <morka> you can also buy an oem license yourself
[06:53] <n2diy> morka: you should take this to #ubuntu-marketing.
[06:53] <morka> its just that you have to agree you will be responsible for support
[06:53] <fiberchunks> really? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832116200
[06:54] <fiberchunks> that's home basic
[06:54] <sc4ttrbrain> !offtopic
[06:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:54] <morka> my last offtopic phrase - I was talking about XP.
[06:55] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: can you see the files if you do 'sudo ls' ?
[06:55] <drvegan> i'll try
[06:55] <pate4ever> hey, can someone direct me to some literature about how to set up a proxy on my wireless
[06:56] <drvegan> says "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mnt"."
[06:56] <leafw> what is the command line equivalent to gparted?
[06:56] <fiberchunks> leafw, parted
[06:56] <leafw> thanks
[06:56] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: that's weird
[06:56] <gandalf[1] > what kind of partition is it ?
[06:56] <drvegan> ntfs
[06:57] <sable> gandalf: I did not have the correct ones installed.  How do I find the current ones?  All that is in the package manager is 2.4, I have 2.6
[06:57] <drvegan> the guy told me to add the following lines:  "/dev/hda1 /mnt ntfs rw,user,auto 0 0" and to download ntfs-3d
[06:58] <gandalf[1] > is it mounted ?
[06:58] <gandalf[1] > try 'sudo mount' and see
[06:58] <drvegan> i think so, it says the right amount of free space, will try that
[06:59] <drvegan> lot of stuff came up but it does not work
[06:59] <gandalf[1] > try 'sudo df;
[06:59] <gandalf[1] > err
[06:59] <gandalf[1] > 'sudo df'
[07:00] <graft> anyone really good at regular expressions, here?
[07:00] <drvegan> says "/dev/hda1             61440556  48609472  12831084  80% /mnt" for that partition, but still not able to access
[07:00] <graft> i.e., can you write a bash regexp to match a domain name?
[07:00] <Flannel> graft: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <graft> argh. i'm still banned from offtopic
[07:01] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: I think you might have to add some parameters for default permissions to that line in /etc/fstab
[07:01] <fiberchunks> wow offtopic in offtopic?   ;)
[07:01] <graft> i said something nasty to ubotu
[07:01] <zcat[1] > that's what I was thinking.. you can get banned from #offtopic?
[07:02] <Turophile> mmm... does anyone know if Ubuntu has microsoft core fonts as a package?
[07:02] <graft> msttcorefonts, Turophile
[07:02] <zcat[1] > msttf-fonts or something..
[07:02] <graft> !info msttcorefonts
[07:02] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[07:02] <Turophile> ta graft
[07:02] <fiberchunks> graft #bash perhaps?
[07:02] <corevette> is there anybody out there willing to digg my article?
[07:02] <sable> HOw do I find the skernel source files for my version?> the package manager only hase 2.4, I have 2.6
[07:02] <graft> ah thanks fiberchunks
[07:02] <Flannel> corevette: that's horribly offtopic
[07:02] <Turophile> graft: I'm a gentoo user.  Ubuntu is purely for my laptop because Gentoo has buggy patches at the moment
[07:02] <drvegan> will look at that
[07:02] <corevette> flannel, isn't it wonderful :-)
[07:02] <Flannel> !kernel | sable
[07:02] <ubotu> sable: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:02] <Turophile> Also, doesn't show up... heh.
[07:02] <Flannel> corevette: no.  Go elsewhere.
[07:02] <Turophile> Ah, typo
[07:03] <drvegan> how would i do that
[07:03] <zcat[1] > I just installed ubuntu on a 433MHz machine with 128M ram and a fairly old 6G drive. It's not very fast :(
[07:03] <fiberchunks> zcat[1] , shocking! ;)
[07:03] <zcat[1] > in fact words like 'glacial' spring to mind..
[07:03] <fiberchunks> heh
[07:03] <corevette> http://digg.com/mods/Finally_Firefox_s_Answer_to_Opera_s_Integrated_Torrent_Downloader_Bitfox
[07:03] <zcat[1] > Guess I should have tried xubuntu.
[07:04] <fiberchunks> change your DE to something like fluxbox or xfce perhaps?
[07:04] <maxxism> has anyone tried accessing an NFS share from an Edgy server to a mac client?  my NFS works great from Edgy to Edgy.  but I cant seem to get my mac to log in?  maybe a mac channel would be better????
[07:04] <zcat[1] > yeah, gnome is a bit heavy for it.
[07:04] <asc_> zcat: I recomment more ram, it runs fine on 500/256
[07:04] <graft> maxxism: i've done it
[07:04] <Turophile> Ubuntu has come a long way since 5.04
[07:04] <maxxism> graft any suggestions?
[07:04] <graft> maxxism: what're you using to mount with on the mac?
[07:05] <zcat[1] > I have 500mhz and 256m on my laptop and it's not too bad.. but I don't have any ram handy for this machine
[07:05] <graft> maxxism: if i recall correctly there's a mount_nfs command
[07:05] <nanothief> is there a way to backup downloaded packages? My internet is slow and it would take days to redownload
[07:05] <asc_> (128 costs like $10 these days)
[07:05] <maxxism> graft I tried that command.  it keeps saying operation not permitted.  even as root on the mac.
[07:05] <Flannel> nanothief: they're in /var/cache/apt
[07:05] <asc_> But in any case, just apt-get install xfce and set it to default in gdm
[07:05] <nanothief> Flannel: thanks
[07:05] <zcat[1] > It's getting hard to find ram that still works in the older mobos though
[07:06] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: try changing the "rw,user,auto" bit to "rw,user,umask=644"
[07:06] <maxxism> graft I think I put it like this.   mount_nfs 192.168,1.100:/sharename /mountpoint
[07:06] <zcat[1] > damn cat is on the desk trying to steal my dinner!
[07:06] <fiberchunks> zcat[1] , indeed -- perhaps a new $50 mobo with a new $75 proc is in order :)
[07:06] <fiberchunks> plus ram of course
[07:06] <graft> maxxism: mount -o -P servername:/sharename /mountpoint
[07:07] <drvegan> should i delete the 0's ?
[07:07] <maxxism> graft I tried it with the -P
[07:07] <maxxism> graft It mounts.  but then I cant access the folder I mounted it too
[07:07] <maxxism> graft it gives more permission errors
[07:07] <graft> maxxism: try it with mount -o, not mount_nfs
[07:07] <maxxism> graft what is the -o?
[07:08] <maxxism> graft ok.  will do.  thanx.  brb
[07:08] <graft> dunno, just some voodoo i found on some webpage
[07:08] <graft> no idea how mac mangled nfs
[07:08] <graft> or why
[07:09] <drvegan> its not working
[07:09] <zcat[1] > I just use smb everywhere .. even when the network is all linux machines!
[07:10] <n2diy> graft: voodoo!? cool, lots of voodoo in linux.
[07:10] <drvegan> i tried "sudo chown swimmerone /mnt"
[07:10] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: did you reboot it, or just manually unmount/remount it?
[07:10] <graft> n2diy: not linux, osx
[07:10] <drvegan> and it says "chown: changing ownership of `/mnt': Read-only file system"
[07:10] <drvegan> did not reboot
[07:10] <drvegan> the other guy told me i didnt need to, should i do that
[07:10] <n2diy> graft: that too.
[07:10] <gandalf[1] > I would try changing that bit from auto to umask=644
[07:11] <drvegan> should i delete the zero's when i do that
[07:11] <zcat[1] > mount /mnt -o remount,rw,umask=644
[07:11] <Trixsey> Edgy is somewhat unstable for me, do you guys think it might benefit me do update to Feisty?
[07:11] <n2diy> graft: for that matter, programming in general.
[07:11] <gandalf[1] > no
[07:11] <Turophile> This webcam seems to be useless
[07:11] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: what zcat said
[07:11] <drvegan> i add that to the code ?
[07:12] <drvegan> or type it in the terminal
[07:12] <zcat[1] > and if it works, make sure the apropriate umask is in /etc/fstab for next time.
[07:12] <gandalf[1] > drvegan, type what zcat said in the terminal
[07:12] <gandalf[1] > see if that helps
[07:12] <drvegan> says only root can do that
[07:12] <zcat[1] > sudo mount /mnt -o remount,rw,umask=644
[07:12] <n2diy> Trixsey: no, if Edgy is unstable, what do you think Feisty will be? I'm sticking with Dapper.
[07:12] <graft> Trixsey: if you find edgy unstable, feisty is bound to feel worse
[07:13] <gandalf[1] > I'm back to dapper
[07:13] <graft> Trixsey: what's unstable in edgy? i liked it way better than dapper
[07:13] <zcat[1] > actually, no.. sudo umount /mnt then go edit fstab and add the options "user,umask=644"
[07:13] <drvegan> still it says i dont have permission
[07:13] <gandalf[1] > edgy broke more things than I can count
[07:13] <maxxism> graft  -o gives me an unknown special file of file system.  -P is an illegal option.
[07:13] <crweb> why would apt-get repeatedly want to upgrade a package that I made? I apt-get dist-upgrade, and my 3 packages are marked for upgrade.  I upgrade them. then apt-get dist-upgrade and they are marked for upgrade again
[07:13] <graft> maxxism: with mount? or mount_nfs?
[07:14] <maxxism> graft mount
[07:14] <gortba_> Hi. If anyone can help, I'm trying to use anjuta and get this message: please add the files codeset.m4, gettext.m4, ... to autoconf directory. Does anyone know where the autoconf macro directory is?
[07:14] <gandalf[1] > drvegan:try 'sudo umount /mnt'
[07:14] <n2diy> gandalf[1] : Trixsey, after spending an afternoon here, I abandon all plans to "upgrade" to Edgy.
[07:14] <DLB|Maximus> can someone tell me how i change my wireless alias from eth1 to wlan0
[07:14] <gandalf[1] > then try that chown command again
[07:14] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl
[07:14] <DLB|Maximus> when i issue iwconfig it shows up as eth1 and not wlan0
[07:14] <graft> maxxism: argh. well, apparently the problem is, macs try to use an insecure port (i.e., > 1024) for NFS by default, even if you run it as root
[07:14] <zcat[1] > graft: just so we're clear; you mounting this on the ubuntu end, or in osx?
[07:14] <maxxism> graft  mount_nfs gives me an Operation not permitted.
[07:15] <Trixsey> n2diy, I wouldn't if I were you ;p
[07:15] <s0undt3ch> while trying to build my own kernel I got:
[07:15] <graft> zcat[1] : i'm not mounting it, maxxism is
[07:15] <s0undt3ch> /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: File format not recognized
[07:15] <graft> zcat[1] : but he's exporting from ubuntu to osx
[07:15] <zcat[1] > sorry, maxxism
[07:15] <s0undt3ch> what's up!?
[07:15] <maxxism> yeah.  from ubuntu share to osx client
[07:15] <graft> maxxism: so you can solve this by exporting with the option 'insecure'
[07:15] <graft> maxxism: though... obviously this is not ideal
[07:15] <n2diy> Trixsey: wouldn't what, upgrade? It's not happening until LTS for Dapper is abandoned.
[07:15] <drvegan> now it says the free space from the linux partition
[07:15] <zcat[1] > ahhh... ok.
[07:15] <cafuego_> graft: Yup. There's a little utility called "NFS Manager" for OSX, it's your friend.
[07:16] <Trixsey> LTS doesn't really mean much though?
[07:16] <maxxism> graft I do this in my exports file on the ubuntu box?
[07:16] <Trixsey> I mean people here would help you with Edgy (no LTS afaik?) anyway
[07:16] <maxxism> I will try the NFS manager.
[07:16] <Trixsey> or even Feisty if you join #ubuntu+1
[07:16] <graft> maxxism: yeah, /etc/exports
[07:16] <gandalf[1] > I basically "upgraded" to edgy to see if one problem would go away
[07:16] <gandalf[1] > it didn't
[07:16] <drvegan> why is this so difficult
[07:17] <n2diy> Trixsey: my boxes are happy with it, and I rarely see question here about it, I'm happy when the boxes are happy.
[07:17] <gandalf[1] > and about 8 other things broke
[07:17] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: because linux hates ntfs ;)
[07:17] <drvegan> apparently
[07:17] <s0undt3ch> so anyone got any pointers about this libc6 prob?
[07:17] <Trixsey> external HDDs on NTFS is ok?
[07:17] <Trixsey> or not? :(
[07:17] <ahave> i have a problem with ubuntu... the gnome environment will not launch any system windows, ie. terminal, system monitor, places>>computer etc  - how to fix this?
[07:17] <graft> linux doesn't hate NTFS - NTFS hates the world
[07:17] <gandalf[1] > hehehe
[07:17] <graft> at least linux TRIES to be friends with NTFS
[07:17] <drvegan> yeah ms sucks, but if i cant get this to work, i'm stuck with it
[07:18] <nephish> hello all
[07:18] <zcat[1] > NTFS doesn't play well with others..
[07:18] <EE> Hello I have a newbie question
[07:18] <gortba_> Hi. If anyone can help, I'm trying to use anjuta and get this message: please add the files codeset.m4, gettext.m4, ... to autoconf directory. Does anyone know where the autoconf macro directory is?
[07:18] <drvegan> been working on this hard drive thing for 2 hours
[07:18] <graft> ahave: can you launch stuff to X from the console?
[07:19] <ahave> graft, if i could open up a console.. maybe?
[07:19] <graft> ahave: ctrl-alt-f1
[07:19] <n2diy> gandalf[1] : off the top of my head, no disk manager, no inittab, NV and ATI support seems to be broken, etc...
[07:19] <graft> ahave: export DISPLAY=:0, etc.
[07:20] <EE> I am unable to get the Ubuntu 6.10 installer to finish loading. "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"
[07:21] <ahave> graft, what will that do?
[07:21] <drvegan> is there any more i can do ?
[07:21] <zcat[1] > EE: do the disk self-test first...
[07:21] <ahave> graft, the export line
[07:21] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: are you on 6.10 ?
[07:21] <drvegan> i think so
[07:22] <gandalf[1] > try these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[07:22] <graft> ahave: um... that tells it that it should try to run xwindows applications on display 0
[07:22] <gandalf[1] > it might help
[07:22] <gandalf[1] > I've never used the ntfs-3g package
[07:22] <drvegan> i'll try
[07:22] <zcat[1] > EE: then try things like noapic ..
[07:22] <Turophile> sc4ttrbrain: Mmm, no joy here
[07:22] <gandalf[1] > so I can't tell you if it actually *works* or not
[07:22] <graft> ahave: so if you subsequently run, like, xclock, or whatever, it'll open it in X
[07:22] <graft> ahave: or tell you why it can't
[07:22] <EE> acat[1] : I'm sorry I have no idea what tha means?
[07:22] <Turophile> It says I've got the driver up and running, but no joy with actually running/testing the device out.
[07:23] <Turophile> And /dev/video hasn't appeared... there's the problem
[07:23] <zcat[1] > EE: when you first boot the disk, there should be a few different options; one of them will have the disk check itself for errors.
[07:23] <drvegan> says something about broken packages
[07:23] <EE> zcat[1] : ok I will take a look. I remember a memory check
[07:23] <drvegan> ntfs-3g: Depends: fuse-utils (>= 2.5) but it is not going to be installed
[07:24] <ahave> graft, said something about missing charset.. and when i switched back over ctrl-alt-f7 the clock came up
[07:24] <zcat[1] > EE: There's also some hints about common problems if you press the function keys, I think F6 is one.... you can 'switch off' features that some computers often have trouble with
[07:24] <drvegan> is there any way to get more rows in the area that has the buttons to choose what program you're looking at
[07:24] <gortba_> Hi. If anyone can help, I'm trying to use anjuta and get this message: please add the files codeset.m4, gettext.m4, ... to autoconf directory. Does anyone know where the autoconf macro directory is?
[07:25] <graft> ahave: okay... so not an X problem, it's a gnome problem...
[07:25] <EE> zcat[1] : its a toshiba satellite U200. haven't found much info on it yet
[07:25] <graft> ahave: what's running, gnome-wise?
[07:25] <drvegan> so fuse utils is needed and can't be installed ?
[07:25] <zcat[1] > ahh.. laptops are often difficult :(
[07:26] <ahave> graft, xchat, firefox 2 term windows - one on terminal other running kismet
[07:26] <Turophile> nano -w /etc/modules.conf
[07:26] <Turophile> bah wrong window
[07:26] <graft> ahave: um, oh, sorry... i thought nothing at all was running
[07:26] <whyameye> I don't understand how the latest kernel update broke Gnome and still hasn't been fixed....
[07:26] <Turophile> wrong box as well for that matter :P
[07:26] <graft> ahave: uh, so what doesn't launch?
[07:26] <gandalf[1] > drvegan: I'm not sure, you could be missing a repository for it, have you enabled the universe/multiverse repositories ?
[07:26] <ahave> graft, nothing new will launch
[07:27] <EE> zcat[1] : yes unfortunalty they seem to be. give me m$ and I can turn it up-side down. give me linux and I'm lost :S
[07:27] <graft> ahave: can you restart the launcher app?
[07:27] <ahave> graft, only exception is firefox
[07:27] <drvegan> i dont know what that means
[07:27] <graft> ahave: maybe you accidentally uninstalled everything?
[07:27] <ahave> graft, how? and what will that do?
[07:27] <drvegan> i'm looking in synaptic package
[07:28] <warri0r> hello
[07:28] <warri0r> any1 know hw to apply the fix for nautilus
[07:28] <warri0r> i m a damn newbie to linux
[07:28] <warri0r> some1 help plz :(
[07:28] <n2diy> warri0r: what fiy
[07:29] <n2diy> *fiy/fix
[07:29] <graft> ahave: try running gnome-terminal from within one of your terminal windows
[07:29] <warri0r> hey
[07:29] <warri0r> ye tat nautilus
[07:29] <warri0r> high cpu usage
[07:29] <warri0r> bug
[07:29] <n2diy> warri0r: ?
[07:29] <drvegan> i tried to install ntfs 3g, it says
[07:29] <drvegan> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:29] <drvegan> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:29] <ahave> i typed 'gnome-terminal' from one of my open terms, and it just hangs...
[07:29] <zcat[1] > drvegan: sudo ?
[07:30] <drvegan> what does sudo mean, people keep asking me to type it
[07:30] <zcat[1] > !sudo
[07:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:30] <redbox> drvegan: type man sudo to find out
[07:30] <drvegan> i understand programming to some degree, just very unfamiliar with linux
[07:30] <ahave> if i try to lauch a term by clicking on a link from my desktop. i can see a bottom tab open up.. then hang.. then tab disappears
[07:30] <drvegan> cool
[07:30] <zcat[1] > ahave: alt-F2 and type "xterm" perhaps?
[07:30] <graft> ahave: um, just hangs is weird
[07:30] <gandalf[1] > drvegan, it's giving you that since synaptic is open
[07:31] <warri0r> @<n2diy> theres a fix available to prevent nautilus from using high cpu
[07:31] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i need some urgent help. i "rm -rf'd" a direcotry. any way i can recover it?
[07:31] <drvegan> cool gan
[07:31] <ahave> graft, alt-f2 and 'xterm' does nothing
[07:31] <warri0r> here is the fix files
[07:31] <zcat[1] > Hmmmm: in short, no.
[07:31] <warri0r> http://people.ubuntu.com/%7Eseb128/debug/54684/
[07:31] <n2diy> warri0r: For what version of Ubuntu?
[07:31] <Hmmmm> zcat[1] , are you sure?
[07:31] <warri0r> its edgy
[07:31] <Mr1> Hmmmm: Why would you do that?
[07:31] <graft> Hmmmm: pretty much no
[07:32] <zcat[1] > "Are you sure?" is something rm -rf never asks..
[07:32] <relix> Hi, I have a question about gnome-terminal, but I don't get any answers in ##gnome so I tought I should try here
[07:32] <warri0r> wait a min, i ll get a link to tat bug report
[07:32] <relix> I would like to start a gnome-terminal and execute a command with a delay in it
[07:32] <drvegan> Reading package lists... Done
[07:32] <Hmmmm> zcat[1] , no data recovery tool could find it?
[07:32] <drvegan> Building dependency tree
[07:32] <n2diy> warri0r: Sorry, I don't have that problem with Dapper, good luck.
[07:32] <drvegan> Reading state information... Done
[07:32] <drvegan> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[07:32] <drvegan> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[07:32] <drvegan> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[07:32] <inazad> Hi there, I can't receive messages with Evolution.. It can't connect to my pop server.. It still waiting
[07:32] <drvegan> or been moved out of Incoming.
[07:32] <drvegan> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[07:32] <drvegan> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[07:32] <drvegan> that package should be filed.
[07:32] <drvegan> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[07:32] <drvegan> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:32] <drvegan>   ntfs-3g: Depends: fuse-utils (>= 2.5) but 2.3.0-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[07:32] <relix> for example: gnome-terminal -e="sleep 3; echo 'hello'"
[07:32] <drvegan> E: Broken packages
[07:32] <graft> !pastebin | drvegan
[07:32] <ubotu> drvegan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:32] <Mr1> rm -rf / is like crack for linux haha
[07:33] <drvegan> what do you mean graft
[07:33] <relix> that doesn't work though, anyone know why?
[07:33] <graft> i mean, don't spam the channel
[07:33] <drvegan> oh
[07:33] <tritium> Mr1: don't do that
[07:33] <Mr1> Don't plan to
[07:33] <tritium> !paste > drvegan
[07:33] <relix> the terminal appears and dissapears so quickly I can't see what's going on, possibly an error
[07:33] <Hmmmm> Hmmmmmmmmm
[07:33] <tritium> Mr1: no, I mean don't mention that in here
[07:33] <Mr1> Why not?
[07:33] <drvegan> adapting to linux is more difficult than installing windows
[07:33] <tritium> Because someone might mistake that as advice, and try it
[07:34] <Mr1> Hmmm good point
[07:34] <Mr1> Sorry
[07:34] <tritium> Worse yet, they may use sudo
[07:34] <warri0r> @n2diy: here the link abt the bug
[07:34] <warri0r> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/54684
[07:34] <graft> ahave: um, can you launch xeyes from one of your terminals? or run, say, ls?
[07:34] <warri0r> ther are some fixes available
[07:34] <tritium> Thanks, Mr1
[07:34] <drvegan> do  you think a local linux users group might be able to help if i brought my laptop to them
[07:34] <warri0r> but hw can i install them :(
[07:34] <Mr1> trit sudo rm would remove everything right?
[07:34] <inazad> Hi there, I can't receive messages with Evolution.. It can't connect to my pop server.. It still waiting
[07:34] <tritium> Mr1: yeah, if the password was given
[07:34] <zcat[1] > Mr1: yes, and surprisingly quickly too..
[07:35] <unop> Mr1,  except a directory -- for which you use rmdir
[07:35] <Mr1> I know
[07:35] <Mr1> I have tried ti
[07:35] <Mr1> it*
[07:35] <ahave> graft, yes. xeyes does run.. and as far as navigation of the filesystem the term acts normal
[07:35] <n2diy> warri0r: Ok, if it is a know bug, you'll have to live with it until it gets fixed. That is why I stay with Dapper.
[07:35] <tritium> inazad: must be your configuration, as evolution can connect to pop servers, and has been able to for years
[07:35] <ny83> hi just about to reinstall ubuntu - was using dapper for a while and installed edgy but i cant quite remember if i had any problems with it. i know theres trouble upgrading from dapper to edgy but are there any major known problems with a fresh edgy install?
[07:35] <warri0r> no man theres a fix released for tat
[07:35] <ahave> graft, but in general nothing will launch. except xeyes, which besides FF are the only 2 to do so
[07:35] <VSpike> can anyone tell me an easy way 1) To tell which kernels I haeve installed and 2) To remove a kernel?
[07:35] <VSpike> I get confused by the different kernel packages
[07:36] <chris_> unop: wrong, sudo rm -Rf / will remove everything... EVERYTHING
[07:36] <tritium> inazad: are you running feisty?  You're asking in the wrong channel, in that case.
[07:36] <Mr1> Can anyone help me with my wireless?
[07:36] <inazad> tritium, yeah but how I can fix it ?
[07:36] <tritium> !wireless
[07:36] <inazad> tritium, no edgy
[07:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:36] <Hmmmm> chris_, are you sure no data recovery can bring it back?
[07:36] <warri0r> @n2diy : the problem i dont know hw to install the fix
[07:36] <tritium> inazad: what's the question?
[07:36] <warri0r> is*
[07:36] <Mr1> Its kind of specifi
[07:36] <drvegan> thank you for trying to help, have a good night
[07:36] <Mr1> specific*
[07:36] <inazad> tritium, I can't connect to my email' pop server..
[07:36] <cables> Who 'rm -rf /'d?
[07:36] <unop> VSpike,  dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[07:36] <qwerty967> help! nautilus won't connect to remote servers
[07:36] <warri0r> plz help dude
[07:36] <relix> so, no one?
[07:37] <n2diy> warri0r: The page says it has been fixed. I don't know how to do the fix either, have you updated recently?
[07:37] <chris_> Hmmmm: that was not the question, re-read what was stated to understand
[07:37] <Mr1> I would like to be able to cut the power to my Belkin transmitter
[07:37] <Mr1> Anyone?
[07:37] <tritium> inazad: again, check your configuration.  Did you specify the server/port correctly, etc.?
[07:37] <warri0r> no i havnt updated since install
[07:37] <unop> chris_,  i wasnt born yesterday -- it's better to use rmdir on directories
[07:37] <inazad> tritium, wait, I will open my configuration menu.. plz wait me
[07:37] <VSpike> unop: thanks
[07:37] <warri0r> whenever i try to update , my ubuntu never boots up
[07:37] <atomiku-linux> When I have something playing in XMMS, theres no sound in Enemy Territory. what can I do to fix this?
[07:37] <n2diy> Mr1: disconnect the power cord?
[07:38] <tritium> inazad: only you can double-check your config.  Check it against your server settings.
[07:38] <graft> ahave: um, so basically, everything but gnome apps runs
[07:38] <zcat[1] > I use -rf far too much too.. once or twice I've nuked important stuff... fortunately I have backups of anything important.
[07:38] <cables> atomiku-linux, install packages "alsa-oss" and lanch the game as "aoss <game>"
[07:38] <Mr1> n2d: well Yeah but I want to turn off the power through my laptop any ideas?
[07:38] <unop> VSpike,  make sure you _never_ uninstall the kernel you are running eh :)
[07:38] <qwerty967> nautilus won't connect to remote server... what could be wrong?
[07:38] <zcat[1] > it keeps the box clean :)
[07:38] <warri0r> @n2diy: they asked me to use the following files to fix the bug
[07:38] <atomiku-linux> cables: hmmm okay
[07:38] <warri0r> http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/debug/54684/
[07:38] <graft> ahave: so, possibly some gnome daemon died, or is hung up on something... did you try restarting gnome?
[07:39] <tritium> unop: you can, if you install a new one before you do so
[07:39] <ahave> graft, yea. i suppose. although xterm wouldnt bring up xclock
[07:39] <cables> !info alsa-oss > me
[07:39] <chris_> unop: I was stating either way as a better method, but you said except a directory -- for which you use rmdir, which will remove a directory as well, but the # sudo rm -Rf / will wipe your entire root directory.. nothing will be left.
[07:39] <ahave> graft, no. i have not restarted anything
[07:39] <atomiku-linux> !info alsa-oss > me
[07:39] <inazad> tritium, but I don't understand, I use the same settings with thunderbird and it works great... in Evolution, I'm just able to send message (smtp) ... not to receive...
[07:39] <ahave> graft, how would i restart just gnome?
[07:39] <atomiku-linux> seems a little unnessesary though but okay
[07:39] <n2diy> Mr1: the easiest way is to disconnect the power cord. I'm waiting for your link to come up.
[07:39] <graft> ahave: logout? or ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:40] <Mr1> Like ifconfig eth1 down will kill the connection through my laptop... I want to cut the connection to my trnasmitter
[07:40] <tritium> inazad: possibly have to setup the proper port for authentication?
[07:40] <n2diy> ! oubuntu
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <unop> tritium,  thats errm, a risky thing to do.. especially since you have no idea how the new kernel is going to fare -- also "do you saw off the branch you are sitting on" ?
[07:40] <cables> atomiku-linux, it's necessary... the game is trying to use OSS, but you want it to use ALSA, which supports sound mixing. Alsa-oss lets that work.
[07:40] <zcat[1] > Are there really no decent tools for recovering etx3? I've seen plenty for fat32 and ntfs (even Free ones!)
[07:40] <warri0r> so anyone cud help me regarding tat :( ?
[07:40] <inazad> tritium, why ?
[07:40] <n2diy> Mr1: Sorry, I don't know anything about those files, good luck.
[07:40] <Mr1> Damn
[07:40] <inazad> tritium, it doesn't ask me..
[07:40] <warri0r> it bags 95%of my cpu :(
[07:41] <Mr1> N2d: So no matter how I try to disconnect wireless it will only kill the interface right?
[07:41] <ny83> any known problems with fresh edgy installs?
[07:41] <atomiku-linux> hmm
[07:41] <zcat[1] > etx3 :) I need a spelling checker in xchat..
[07:41] <unop> chris_,  i dont know why you are advertising rm -rf .. rmdir is the way to go, its safer, it prompts you if you have subdirectories or files and is consequently safer .. i know what rm -rf but i will never ever use it unless i really really have to
[07:42] <ahave> graft, ok i will try that... i will be back. i hope :)
[07:42] <zcat[1] > unop: even safer, drag folder to trash in gnome :)
[07:42] <tritium> unop: I never said you _should_ do it, but it can be done, and it's not that terrible
[07:42] <inazad> tritium, and I can't change it..
[07:42] <dougb> who here is using feisty?
[07:42] <tritium> Please take the "rm -rf" talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <inazad> tritium, can we see the logs of evolution somewhere?
[07:43] <cables> dougb, go to the channel #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <tritium> dougb: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:43] <unop> tritium,  heh, rm -Rf /  is not terrible .. even the mention of it is  .. the !ops will let you know about that
[07:43] <atomiku-linux> the thing is, cables, the sound works fine on ET without using that aoss thing
[07:43] <tritium> unop: I am an op ;)
[07:43] <dougb> sweet, i didn't know it had it's own channel
[07:43] <unop> tritium,  ok, well, then you know better to say things like that :)
[07:43] <tritium> And I was referring to removing the running linux-image kernel
[07:43] <inazad> tritium, u're there ?
[07:43] <tritium> unop: you misunderstood
[07:43] <cables> atomiku-linux, I know... but if you want ET not to steal sound from other apps, you need to run it under ALSA.
[07:44] <chris_> unop: I wasn't advertising anything, you stated  except a directory -- for which you use rmdir, Implying that # sudo rm -Rf / would not delete a directory, when in fact it does!
[07:44] <atomiku-linux> Ahh okaty then
[07:44] <tritium> Now please, take the rm -rf talk to -offtopic
[07:44] <unop> tritium,  my bad my bad -- sorry, its just your post came after zcat[1] 's there and i assumed it was the same topic
[07:44] <atomiku-linux> btw, the sound quality is very bad and choppy on ET now
[07:44] <atomiku-linux> (when I use aoss...)
[07:44] <cables> atomiku-linux, no idea how to fix that, sorry
[07:44] <chris_> unop: I was simply correcting your mis-informing statement you made to everyone.
[07:44] <atomiku-linux> thanks for the help so far though :)
[07:45] <unop> chris_,  its not misinformation -- its just the way it should be and has been .. and FYI a directory is a file :)
[07:46] <zcat[1] > arghhh..
[07:46] <Eleaf> ahh!  My printer stopped working ;(
[07:46] <Mr1> Since when did a file become a dir?
[07:46] <inazad> tritium, ??
[07:46] <cables> Mr1, since forever in Unix... everything's a file...
[07:46] <zcat[1] > -offtopic, please!!
[07:46] <Eleaf> It was printing just a second ago, but now when I try to print, the printer says "Put letter, standard paper in tray 1"
[07:46] <Eleaf> There is paper.
[07:47] <Eleaf> Printing is so bad in linux...
[07:47] <unop> Mr1,  thats the way directories (or anything for the matter) are represented in a filesystem on *nix
[07:47] <cables> !offtopic | Eleaf
[07:47] <ubotu> Eleaf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:47] <n2diy> Mr1: linux/unix treats everything as a file.
[07:47] <tritium> inazad: yes?
[07:47] <posingaspopular> chris_: some info for you.
[07:47] <zcat[1] > Eleaf: there's paper in the printer?
[07:47] <Eleaf> cables, ??
[07:47] <Eleaf> yes zcat[1] 
[07:47] <chris_> posingaspopular: hey man, how are you
[07:47] <Mr1> So if I type mkdir blag it creates a writeable file instead of a folder?
[07:47] <Eleaf> zcat[1] , windows prints fine .
[07:47] <Eleaf> I tried resetting up the printer, but it still doesn't print.
[07:47] <Eleaf> I have a huge project due very soon.
[07:47] <posingaspopular> apparently the problem we ran into is a problem with ubuntu reading / as root file
[07:48] <unop> Mr1,  well technically yes, but for the sakes of usability, no
[07:48] <cables> Eleaf, you said it works in windows, print from windows...
[07:48] <gandalf[1] > what kind of printer ?
[07:48] <posingaspopular> a known bug i should say
[07:48] <Mr1> Ok I got ya
[07:48] <n2diy> Mr1: linux/unix treats everything as a file. Folders don't exsist in linux.
[07:48] <Eleaf> cables, it's too hard to get all my data over there..
[07:48] <posingaspopular> how are you btw?
[07:48] <Eleaf> I have like 20 files
[07:48] <cables> Eleaf, email to self, put on memory card/floppy/cd
[07:48] <inazad> tritium, so, what I can do ? nothing it's working...
[07:48] <Eleaf> cables, that's rediculous.
[07:48] <inazad> tritium, anyone here can download his messages ?
[07:48] <Eleaf> And why does linux not have that many options for quality?
[07:48] <Eleaf> (cups)
[07:48] <cables> Eleaf, why not do that first, then fix the printing when you actually have time?
[07:49] <unop> Mr1,  on some *nixes if you use cat on a directory .. you get some info .. cat on linux warns you tho
[07:49] <cables> Eleaf, it's not linux, its' the driver.
[07:49] <Eleaf> cableroy, because it was working 1 minute ago
[07:49] <Eleaf> I try to change the quality and it doesn't work..  I put all the settings back.
[07:49] <valehru> hey guys, need help over here.  I think my kernel updated and now my drivers are not working for nvidia......can anyone help me out?  I have a 6600GT, and I am now unable to run glxgears
[07:49] <Eleaf> It's the middle of the night, and the printer with linux is always the weakest part.
[07:49] <zcat[1] > Eleaf: did you change anything in the app you're printing from (like paper size) that might make it think it's supposed to use a different paper source?
[07:49] <Eleaf> zcat[1] , it can't even do a test print.
[07:49] <cables> why the hell did the updates cause so much trouble? Seriously, don't they QA these things?
[07:50] <Eleaf> zcat[1] , so I don't believe so.
[07:50] <zcat[1] > that is weird.
[07:50] <tritium> inazad: whose messages?
[07:50] <unop> cables,  can every single package developer take into consideratione ever single different setups on the millions of setups around the world -- you're just a victim of fate :)
[07:50] <graft> cables: everyone's setup is in a different state at different times, it's hard to QA everything
[07:50] <Eleaf> grr
[07:51] <inazad> tritium, anyone can't download his emails from Evolution ?
[07:51] <inazad> tritium, I'm alone with this problem ?
[07:51] <cables> unop, graft, it's mostly Nvidia problems.
[07:51] <gandalf[1] > try 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart' from a terminal
[07:51] <zcat[1] > Eleaf: sounds like your easiest option for now is just to copy the files to Windows.. :(
[07:51] <graft> cables: that's even less ubuntu's fault
[07:51] <cables> graft, true
[07:52] <mykhul> can anyone recommend a shell based torrent program?
[07:52] <tritium> inazad: it's not an evolution problem.  Likely you've not configured it right.
[07:52] <zcat[1] > If nvidia would just open their damn drivers (hello, comply with the GPL anyone?!) it would be a lot less hassle
[07:52] <n2diy> tritium: Maybe, google will tell if you are alone.
[07:52] <cables> zcat[1] , easier said than done
[07:52] <Eleaf> hmm
[07:52] <tritium> n2diy: ?
[07:52] <unop> cables,  ahh and thats more of an issue -- since that's non-free/proprietary stuff, it's not even ubuntu's responsibility really although they do package the binaries
[07:52] <graft> zcat[1] : never gonna happen...
[07:52] <inazad> tritium, hmmm...
[07:52] <n2diy> tritium: you do know how to use a search engine, no?
[07:52] <cables> I wonder if Novou will ever get anywhere
[07:53] <gandalf[1] > they really can't open up video drivers
[07:53] <tritium> n2diy: what are you getting at?
[07:53] <zcat[1] > would happen overnight if the choice was comply or stop selling the chipset for embedded stuff like pvr's and games..
[07:53] <Mr1> How do I write to a file in bash?
[07:53] <gandalf[1] > it would allow too much ip about the way the graphics chips work out in the wild
[07:53] <Mr1> Hello world > myfile
[07:53] <cables> zcat[1] , and how would that ultimatum come about?
[07:53] <n2diy> tritium: if you can't find your answers here, look elsewhere.
[07:53] <zcat[1] > intel would happily supply that market for them
[07:53] <unop> Mr1,  the simplest way -- cat -> file    .. and ctrl+c when you are done
[07:54] <tritium> n2diy: I'm not looking for answers here.  You must have me confused with someone else.  I suggest you treat users in here a little more kindly.
[07:54] <unop> Mr1,  but you should use your favourite $EDITOR  really
[07:54] <Mr1> Ok
[07:54] <Mr1> Why is that?
[07:55] <gandalf[1] > ok ttg
[07:55] <unop> Mr1,  because thats what editors are for :) -- cat is very very simplistic
[07:55] <Mr1> So... touch myfile write the hello world > myfile
[07:55] <zcat[1] > cables: kernel copyright. The legal opinion from FSF is that nvidia's drivers are almost but not quite complying with the GPL
[07:55] <unop> touch creates the file -- you need to echo "hello world" then into it .. so - touch myfile; echo "hello world" > myfile
[07:56] <n2diy> tritium: yes, things scroll by quickly.  And I was being kind, answer that aren't available here could be a mouse click away. Sorry if I came on harshly.
[07:56] <Mr1> Ahhh thats what I was missing.. echo
[07:56] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. this is way offtopic and I hafta go pick up the family
[07:56] <tritium> n2diy: no worries.
[07:56] <Hmmmm> does anyone know how to recover files using mc?
[07:57] <atomiku-linux> When I have something playing in XMMS, theres no sound in Enemy Territory. what can I do to fix this?
[07:59] <unop> Hmmmm,  this page makes some mention of it http://www.chm.tu-dresden.de/edv/mc/mc4.5/manual1.html
[07:59] <oggy> its raining on my desktop
[07:59] <gandal1> ok this is a dumbass question, but I can't figure out the logs in recent linux systems
[08:00] <unop> gandal1,  how different can they be from older linux systems? :)
[08:00] <gandal1> unless I launch programs from a terminal, I can't find the output
[08:00] <unop> gandal1,  the output of what tho?
[08:01] <rms> gOLdenHaWK3D, hey man, join our private channel
[08:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> rms, ok
[08:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> rms, im already there!
[08:01] <gandal1> the output of programs you launch in X
[08:01] <n2diy> ! rms
[08:01] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[08:01] <Hmmmm> unop, thanks. taking a look at the link
[08:01] <gandal1> unless I launch something from a terminal, there's no way to debug it
[08:01] <kaje1> I'm trying to get compiz to work. I have everything installed, but when I click the "Enable GL Desktop" checkbox, X locks up... Can anyone help?
[08:02] <gandal1> I thought that stuff was supposed to show up in /var/log/messages
[08:02] <gandal1> I'm rather new to X though
[08:02] <unop> gandal1,  well yes, that's what you'd expect normally right? you dont want your apps dirtying your GUI do you?
[08:02] <gandal1> yeah, exactly
[08:02] <gandal1> only there's nothing in there
[08:02] <gandal1> except shite from gconf
[08:02] <gandal1> for page after page
[08:03] <unop> gandal1,  well, without detail, what exact X apps are you trying to debug?
[08:03] <n2diy> ! tail
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <gandal1> just in general
[08:03] <thor> hi all
[08:03] <gandal1> when apps die in X, etc
[08:03] <gandal1> I would like to know what's going on
[08:04] <gandal1> specifically debug output from wine would be nice sometimes
[08:04] <gandal1> ...
[08:04] <gandal1> :)
[08:04] <n2diy> gandal1: if you want to watch stuff realtime run your apps from a terminal, with the tail -f command. See man tail for the specificies.
[08:04] <thor> does anyone have experience with compiling void11 ? I get strange errors...
[08:04] <rms_> gOLdenHaWK3D, hey man, join our private channel
[08:05] <unop> gandal1,  ok /var/log/messages is where syslog places it's logs -- and apps that write to syslog have their messages stored somewhere in that directory .. normal apps do not send messages there, it's usually not worth keeping a log of every single apps debugs messages
[08:05] <gOLdenHaWK3D> rms_, im already there!
[08:05] <gandal1> ok, maybe my brain is short circuiting
[08:05] <oggy> nice
[08:06] <gandal1> probably from staring at /var/log/syslog for 2000 years getting samba to work back in the NT days
[08:06] <oggy> raindrops on a Dell widescreen 2005fpw
[08:06] <oggy> looks cool
[08:06] <gandal1> or was it /var/log/messages ?
[08:06] <gandal1> hehe
[08:06] <mist> lol
[08:06] <mist> wee!
[08:06] <unop> gandal1,  there is an environmental variable for wine (i cant remember what it is, but its in the wine developer docs) that spits out very verbose messages for every single action wine does
[08:06] <oggy> i wish I can upload a video of this
[08:06] <thor> void11 anyone has experience ?
[08:07] <oggy> but istanbul only does flv files
[08:07] <gandal1> I've found it useful enough to run the wine apps from a terminal
[08:07] <gandal1> I thought maybe when you launch from within X that those messages would be output somewhere else instead
[08:07] <gandal1> I guess they just go to /dev/null ;)
[08:07] <unop> gandal1,  on ubuntu, i think samba has its own logs - not sure what they are either
[08:07] <Mr1> ANybody know where I can get a list of terminal commands?
[08:08] <Pablo> gandalftp
[08:08] <chris_> Mr1: this is just one of many.. google will show you more .. http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[08:08] <n2diy> Mr1: man bash, and google bash.
[08:08] <unop> gandal1,  nothing is redirected to /dev/null unless you want it to -- or the app is launced in a GUI handling app (like gnome, kde, etc)
[08:08] <Mr1> Thanks!
[08:09] <atomiku-linux> When I have something playing in XMMS, theres no sound in Enemy Territory. what can I do to fix this?
[08:10] <atomiku-linux> seems it cant handle multiple output
[08:10] <unop> gandal1, the messages you get are really down to the individual application and how the developers want it .. although if you have developer know-how, you can use tools like strace and valgrind to go behind the scenes
[08:10] <Hmmmm> i want to mount /var as read only. how do i do that?
[08:10] <unop> Hmmmm,  is /var mounted on a seperate partition at the moment?
[08:11] <Hmmmm> unop, yup sda6
[08:11] <unop> Hmmmm,  then just add 'ro' to the options for that entry in /etc/fstab
[08:12] <Hmmmm> unop, next to defaults?
[08:12] <unop> Hmmmm, yep .. seperated by a comma tho -- defaults,ro -- or better simply ro
[08:13] <Hmmmm> unop, okay. done. i want to run the recover command on that filesystem
[08:13] <unop> Hmmmm,  errm, i should have thought you need the partition to be writeable  .. anyway, i'm not sure
[08:14] <ivx> hello, i am trying to use a weather desklet, but it always says fail, do i have to open a port or something to get it working?
[08:14] <trollboy> can someone help me with playing wmv's?  I've tried the stuff on the restricted format's site with no avail
[08:14] <unop> Hmmmm,  you have to remount the partition tho, for the changes to take effect
[08:14] <unop> trollboy,  install the !w32codecs
[08:14] <Hmmmm> unop, im rebooting the machine
[08:14] <unop> !w32codecs
[08:14] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:15] <unop> Hmmmm,  you dont need to do that -- just -- sudo sh -c "umount /dev/sda6; mount /dev/sda6"
[08:15] <unop> :)
[08:15] <Hmmmm> unop, done already
[08:15] <atomiku-linux> hmmm
[08:16] <agliv5> Greetings all :) I was wondering, is it possible to compile ubuntu youself?
[08:16] <brombomb> Anyone a Regex Pro?
[08:16] <atomiku-linux> I still cant figure this out... multiple sound outputs :/
[08:16] <Mr1> What is the whole purpose of piping info?
[08:17] <DarthLappy> brombomb: Might depend on what you need.
[08:17] <brombomb> Im trying to grep a date range from Feb 5th - Feb 9th
[08:18] <DarthLappy> Have you tried something like /Feb [5-9] th/ ?
[08:18] <brombomb> not yet
[08:18] <Bieleke> morning guys
[08:19] <atomiku-linux> DAMNIT.
[08:19] <Bieleke> what was again the command on linux to start a program in background ?
[08:19] <atomiku-linux> Sorry
[08:19] <atomiku-linux> It just seems I cant get this to work... When I have XMMS playing stuff theres no sound on my game
[08:19] <DarthLappy> Bieleke: program &
[08:19] <luis1234> Hi
[08:19] <brombomb> The slash seems to throw off the grep
[08:20] <Bieleke> DarthLappy, thanks dude
[08:20] <luis1234> Anyone runs TOR with UBUNTU?
[08:20] <DarthLappy> Bieleke: No problem :)
[08:20] <luis1234> Hi.
[08:20] <unska_> hmm.. maybe Archive Manager says "Archive type not supported." when I try to unzip a .rar file
[08:20] <unska_> what to do?
[08:20] <DarthLappy> brombomb: Heh, that was just my way of surrounding the regex :P
[08:20] <atomiku-linux> You cant unzip rar files with Archive manager
[08:20] <atomiku-linux> do some googling and im sure you'll find a linux program that can
[08:20] <unska_> what program should i install then
[08:20] <mneptok> unska_: you try unrar-ing it instead of unzipping it?
[08:20] <brombomb> How do I combine the Feb string with the Regex [5-9] 
[08:21] <mneptok> sudo aptitude install unrar
[08:21] <DarthLappy> brombomb: 'Feb [5-9] '...
[08:21] <DarthLappy> You can have it as one thing...
[08:22] <atomiku-linux> windoze users with their winrar?
[08:22] <b0nd> hi guys. I would like to install mysql-query browser and mysql-admin but i get this error message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:23] <b0nd> Any help.
[08:23] <atomiku-linux> you using sudo apt-get ?
[08:23] <diskus> well, winrar is definitely best software for windows
[08:23] <b0nd> i am using sudo aptitude install
[08:23] <mneptok> diskus: for what?
[08:23] <atomiku-linux> hmm
[08:23] <atomiku-linux> get more ram. lol.
[08:23] <brombomb> no luck
[08:23] <atomiku-linux> no seriously, lemme google it
[08:24] <Byan> 7z is the best actually..
[08:24] <dooglus> brombomb: what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:24] <atomiku-linux> b0nd: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31854
[08:24] <Byan> I use winrar though.. cause I like how it looks
[08:24] <mneptok> "don't use .rar" is the best on any platform.
[08:24] <cntb> LjL wonderful
[08:24] <Byan> mneptok: what's wrong with rar?
[08:25] <brombomb> var/log/auth.log find all accepted logins from feb 5th - 9th
[08:25] <unska_> mneptok, thank you for that. how do i install mp3, divx, avi, mpeg decoders?
[08:25] <b0nd> atomiku-linux: thanks i will check it out.
[08:25] <mneptok> there is nothing wrong with open formats. why choose a proprietary format that locks your data to one author's whims?
[08:25] <atomiku-linux> Hey would everything explode if I: VNC'd my computer with another computer runnining in a VM on another computer VNC'd to another computer VNC'd to another computer running on another VM?
[08:25] <Byan> mneptok: well... then.. same with zip files
[08:25] <mneptok> unska_: apititude search fluendo
[08:26] <diskus> mneptok: for packing files
[08:26] <mneptok> unska_: apititude search ffmpeg
[08:26] <brombomb> Atomiku: Only if you created a loop lol
[08:26] <atomiku-linux> would the whole universe blow up?
[08:26] <brombomb> which we did at work by accident
[08:26] <atomiku-linux> uh oh
[08:26] <Byan> someone definately should've created a tar.gz app for windows right away..
[08:26] <atomiku-linux> I bet that maxed out the connection
[08:26] <mneptok> unska_: errr .... "aptitude" will work better ;)
[08:26] <Byan> so, that it would;ve caught on
[08:26] <mneptok> Byan: already been done
[08:26] <unska_> hehe ;p
[08:26] <luis1234> Does anyone know if TOR/Pivoxy works under UBUNTU?
[08:27] <atomiku-linux> brombomb: did your whole office blow up?
[08:27] <DarthLappy> brombomb: I think you'll find there are two spaces between Feb and the numbers.
[08:27] <unska_> mneptok, will they work automaticly after install?
[08:27] <Bieleke> mmmm long time ago for me...
[08:27] <brombomb> It kicked him out of his own desktop
[08:27] <DarthLappy> luis1234: Yes, it does.
[08:27] <atomiku-linux> must have been some awesome time paradox
[08:27] <Byan> mneptok: no, I mean... there should;ve been one.. to overcome winzip
[08:27] <mneptok> unska_: yes
[08:27] <brombomb> so all the computers were useless
[08:27] <mneptok> Byan: http://www.izarc.org/
[08:27] <kameron> i just installed a new hard disk and rebooted. how do i use it?
[08:27] <Bieleke> what would be the first line in a file to make it run ?
[08:27] <Byan> mneptok: I know they exist now....
[08:27] <Bieleke> like batch-files in windows i mean
[08:27] <diskus> Byan: but do they have good UI or crappy one?
[08:27] <Bieleke> something with sh
[08:27] <mneptok> Bieleke: #!/bin/bash
[08:28] <Bieleke> mneptok, thanks :-)
[08:28] <graft> kameron: if it gets recognized okay, you can format the device, make a mount point, and mount it
[08:28] <Byan> diskus: hmm?
[08:28] <kameron> graft im not sure its recognized
[08:28] <kameron> graft, it already is formatted and partitioned, info on it, etc
[08:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> my / partition is 99% filled up. & i got a warning!!! any help!!!
[08:29] <gortba_> Hi. If anyone can help, I'm trying to use anjuta and get this message: please add the files codeset.m4, gettext.m4, ... to autoconf directory. Does anyone know where the autoconf macro directory is?
[08:29] <diskus> Byan: tar.gz soft for windows
[08:29] <dooglus> brombomb: grep '^Feb  [5-9] .*sshd.*opened' /var/log/auth.log
[08:29] <Byan> diskus: winrar does it..
[08:29] <unska_> mneptok, what about xvid decoder?
[08:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> my / partition is 99% filled up. & i got a warning!!! any hjelp!!! can i empty my /tmp???
[08:29] <atomiku-linux> When I have something playing in XMMS, theres no sound in Enemy Territory. what can I do to fix this?
[08:29] <jbellis> I'm supposed to set up a server with ip 69.60.124.245 / subnet 255.255.254.0 -- is subnet the same as "network" in /etc/network/interfaces?  how do I determine netmask?
[08:30] <unop> gOLdenHaWK3D,  reboot and /tmp ought to be emptied
[08:30] <gortba_> OR Does anyone know of a good development environment for a newbie to learn C++?
[08:30] <mneptok> atomiku-linux: wait for ET to use a more modern sound subsystem, sadly.
[08:30] <graft> kameron: oh... um, what does /proc/partitions say?
[08:30] <dooglus> gortba_: I don't think a newbie should learn C++
[08:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, ok, and any other place i migt empty? to free space?
[08:30] <atomiku-linux> awww
[08:30] <atomiku-linux> mneptok: :(
[08:30] <Byan> diskus: my point is that.. people should've put effort into making a tar.gz proggie with a UI comparitive to winzip.. so.. we wouldn't be using zip files all the time
[08:30] <unop> gortba_,  anjuta is pretty widely used
[08:30] <mneptok> atomiku-linux: they use ESD. bleh.
[08:30] <kameron> graft, ah it's there
[08:30] <atomiku-linux> someone suggested this "aoss" sound wrapper thingy, but it didnt work properly
[08:30] <atomiku-linux> Darn.#
[08:30] <Byan> gortba_: why do you need an enviroment..?
[08:30] <gortba_> unop, I'm having issues that I can't resolve when I start a project
[08:31] <kameron> graft, i think i just had the jumper on the wrong spot on the drive
[08:31] <Byan> gortba_: just use vim.. or kate.. or something
[08:31] <mneptok> gortba_: start a project in what?
[08:31] <Byan> and then compile using g++
[08:31] <unska_> mneptok, what about xvid decoder?
[08:31] <graft> kameron: most drives have an 'auto' jumper setting that figure out whether to be in master or slave depending
[08:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Any other place i might empty to free space? my / is 99% filled up!!!
[08:31] <Bieleke> whoooo way cool :-)
[08:31] <mneptok> unska_: ffmpeg
[08:31] <dooglus> kameron: it's often called 'cable select'
[08:31] <atomiku-linux> mneptok: there must be something I can do, like get a sound wrapper or something
[08:32] <chona> i cannot run a C file. error message says i dont have mysql/mysql.h..how can i have it?
[08:32] <atomiku-linux> Maybe i'll do some researching on this "aoss" thing
[08:32] <gortba_> Guys, I'm not a programmer. I got a textbook, and I want to teach myself
[08:32] <unop> gOLdenHaWK3D,  remove old logs from /var/log/ . purge/deinstall unneeded software . install and use !localepurge and finally manually clean out your ~/ directory
[08:32] <Bieleke> now SABnzbd starts automaticly when i start gnome... way cool
[08:32] <kameron> graft, oh.. sweet
[08:32] <dooglus> atomiku-linux: I use aoss for everything.  it works well here
[08:32] <atomiku-linux> dooglus: How about ET?
[08:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, thanx. trying
[08:32] <graft> dooglus: does aoss do your dishes?
[08:32] <mneptok> gortba_: the only thing required to write code is a text editor.
[08:32] <unop> chona,  you need the -dev package for mysql-server
[08:32] <dooglus> (well, 2 of the 3 speakers work, anyway)
[08:32] <diskus> Byan: well winzip wasn't good at all, winrar has good ui
[08:32] <dooglus> atomiku-linux: I think he was fictional.
[08:32] <gortba_> but I can't anjuta to work
[08:32] <dooglus> graft: no, I've got a woman for that.
[08:32] <mneptok> diskus: http://www.izarc.org/
[08:32] <chona> what -dev package is that?
[08:32] <Byan> diskus: it had a good UI compared to other things back then
[08:33] <graft> dooglus: ouch... -2 feminism points
[08:33] <dooglus> graft: don't worry - all she does is loads the dishwasher.
[08:33] <chona> i have libmysqlclient14-dev...and can't download libmysqlclient15-dev..
[08:33] <Bieleke> diskus, it's even that bad, that when you try to download winrar from usenet, it's packed with winrar, so imagine you have no winrar on your box :-)
[08:33] <gortba_> mneptok: then how do I compile it?
[08:33] <Byan> diskus: we are talking early 90's..
[08:34] <diskus> Byan: well at that time there wasn't much choice, zip or some other odd packing methods
[08:34] <Bieleke> as Billy already said... life is not fair, get used to it :-)
[08:34] <Byan> diskus: there was tar.gz...
[08:34] <diskus> Bieleke: well unzip then :P
[08:34] <brombomb> My new Regex.... [F] [e] [b] [ ] [5-9] 
[08:34] <brombomb> lol
[08:34] <Byan> diskus: but there was no windows UI
[08:34] <mneptok> gortba_: an IDE is not a compiler. ever. an IDE may *call* a compiler, but it is not a compiler itself. and you use gcc to compile C-ish code on Linux.
[08:34] <Byan> so..
[08:34] <Byan> yeah
[08:34] <dooglus> gortba_: you type "g++ file.cc"
[08:34] <DarthLappy> brombomb: O_o why do you need to do it like that?
[08:34] <diskus> Byan: yep, but people used zip a lot in those times, dos/windows people
[08:35] <diskus> there was arj I remember too :p
[08:35] <gortba_> on the command line?
[08:35] <unska_> mneptok, i did sudo aptitude install ffmpeg, but i cant find the video player :o
[08:35] <brombomb> becuase the other one wouldn match
[08:35] <b0nd> atomiku-linux: I followed the forum discussion and discovered that i had apt-get update running at the same time. I now however get this message:  mysql-query-browser: Depends: libglibmm-2.4-1c2a which is a virtual package. Can u help me how to resolve this?
[08:35] <mneptok> gortba_: correct
[08:35] <dooglus> brombomb: just "Feb  [5-9] " will do
[08:35] <brombomb> grep says invalid regexp
[08:35] <unop> chona,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=mysql.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[08:35] <DarthLappy> brombomb: Feb *[5-9] 
[08:35] <dooglus> brombomb: but notice there are 2 spaces between 'Feb' and '5'
[08:35] <brombomb> ahhh
[08:35] <mneptok> unska_: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[08:35] <DarthLappy> And remember to quote it :)
[08:36] <dooglus> brombomb: use this: grep '^Feb  [5-9] .*sshd.*opened' /var/log/auth.log
[08:36] <gortba_> ok. I'm going to go try.
[08:36] <mneptok> gortba_: do you have programming experience on other platforms?
[08:36] <dooglus> gortba_: if you don't know other programming languages, C++ probably isn't a good place to start
[08:36] <gortba_> no. Mostly I programmed in math languages to solve math problems like matlab or mathematica
[08:36] <gortba_> so I'm trying to expand
[08:36] <benjm> hi all.. is it ok to ask a question here?
[08:37] <unop> !ask | benjm
[08:37] <ubotu> benjm: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:37] <dooglus> benjm: if it wasn't, you'ld already be in trouble.
[08:37] <gortba_> dooglus: should I start with Java then?
[08:37] <benjm> great, thanks :0
[08:37] <mneptok> gortba_: i agree with dooglus. C++ is throwing yourself in the deep end.
[08:37] <brombomb> Thanks dooglus
[08:37] <unop> gortba_,  C would be a good one to learn
[08:37] <Bieleke> gortba_, depends... java is quit hard to learn, just as C and C++
[08:37] <dooglus> gortba_: Java's a little nicer, but still too heavy imho.  try something like Python I'd suggest
[08:37] <brombomb> I went with grep "Feb  *[5-9] " auth.log | grep "Accepted"
[08:37] <Bieleke> gortba_, try python instead
[08:38] <mneptok> gortba_: i would recommend an interpreted language. Python might be a good choic.
[08:38] <mneptok> +e
[08:38] <gortba_> hmm. Ok sounds good.
[08:38] <Bieleke> and if you know python, then you can start learning a bit java and move to jython :-)
[08:38] <mneptok> gortba_: what OS are you using now?
[08:38] <dooglus> brombomb: there's no need to do 2 greps.  just:    grep "Feb  [5-9] .*Accepted" /var/log/auth.log
[08:38] <gortba_> mneptok
[08:38] <benjm> i'm using squid (2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2) on ubuntu 6.10, but i keep hitting what looks like squid bug #1681 - is there anyway to check whether the squid version i  have includes the fix for that bug?
[08:38] <gortba_> mneptok: I'm running Ubuntu distro
[08:39] <FunnyMan3595> Is there any way to prevent totem, etc. from keeping a history of recently used files?  I can see that it's storing them in ~/.recently-used[.xbel] , but I can't seem to come up with a permission setting that prevents the files from being created/written to.
[08:39] <unop> if you know C, you can learn C++, java, perl, and perhaps languages like python and ruby with ease afterwards :)
[08:39] <mneptok> gortba_: then you have a full Pyton environment ready and waiting to run your stuff.
[08:39] <dooglus> gortba_: Ruby's good, too
[08:40] <mneptok> Python will be of far more use in Ubuntuworld than will be Ruby.
[08:40] <gortba_> mneptok: so should I just get a book and hammer away?
[08:40] <unop> benjm,  spkg -l | grep -i squid
[08:40] <dooglus> C can be very frustrating for a newbie - you have to be pretty careful with memory management and stuff, whereas Python is a lot kinder
[08:40] <unop> benjm,  oops - dpkg -l | grep -i squid
[08:40] <crazy_penguin> Hello!
[08:40] <FunnyMan3595> I've tried touching the files as root and simply chmoding u-w, but it came back with the default permissions both ways.
[08:40] <mneptok> gortba_: only spned money on a book if the web can't teach you.
[08:40] <Yodude> hey i'm having trouble installing flash player
[08:40] <dooglus> gortba_: I'd suggest running through the online Python tutorial to get started
[08:40] <coNP> hi crazy_penguin
[08:41] <cafuego_> dooglus: giveintopython is preinstalled, is it not?
[08:41] <mneptok> Yodude: sudo aptitude install flashplayer-nonfree
[08:41] <Yodude> i know
[08:41] <Bieleke> gortba_, and last but not least, if you own an xbox and it's modded, then you can use python-scripts, so it's never wrong to learn the python language
[08:41] <dooglus> cafuego_: I've never heard of it
[08:42] <Yodude> but it doesn't download thw whole package\it seems to download an online packag installer
[08:42] <unop> dooglus,  well, i started off learning C .. and you dont get to memory management and things like that unless you start off in the deep-end of C .. it's the perfect language to learn the basics about programming i think
[08:42] <benjm> unop, thanks, that gives me some versions for squid and squid-common.. but i'm not sure how to tell what version has a fix for the bug
[08:42] <Yodude> than it actually downloads the real player in the background
[08:42] <crazy_penguin> Hi coNP
[08:42] <Yodude> but it always fails to connect
[08:42] <dooglus> unop: I don't know.  as soon as you start working with strings you're in trouble.  strings are just pointers in C...
[08:42] <unop> benjm,  how have you determined you have a bug?
[08:42] <dooglus> gortba_: http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html
[08:42] <Yodude> although i can instal ohter packages just fine
[08:43] <gortba_> Thanks everyone
[08:43] <FunnyMan3595> gortba_: For more help with Python, there's a #python channel here.
[08:43] <benjm> unop - i get errors in /var/log/squid/cache.log that seem to match exactly the description at http://www.squid-cache.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=1681
[08:44] <Yodude> so what should i do?
[08:44] <FunnyMan3595> Aha!  Well, it's hackish, but I came up with a way: Create a directory in the place of those files.  Presumably it's using rm as a fallback when it can't write the files, and rm on a directory (even an empty one) doesn't work.
[08:44] <agliv5> Anybody know if it is possible to compile ubuntu yourself?
[08:44] <gortba_> Thanks for all your help everyone. I'm going to try some python.
[08:44] <FunnyMan3595> agliv5: Possible, but not reccommended.
[08:44] <dooglus> agliv5: it is
[08:44] <FunnyMan3595> agliv5: If it weren't possible, it wouldn't be Linux.
[08:45] <Bieleke> gortba_, good choice... i wish you good luck and happy programming
[08:45] <unop> dooglus,  well, i suppose dealing with python's object orientedness, classes, scoping, etc are not what a user wants really -- but thats a deal with every language, you have to deal with some of the advanced issues at first without knowing exactly what they do until you start learning about them
[08:45] <Byan> agliv5: if you want to compile things yourself use gentoo
[08:45] <unop> dooglus,  beginner user i.e.
[08:45] <dooglus> unop: the thing is though, you don't notice that Python is object oriented until you need to
[08:45] <Byan> gentoo works very very well... I'd use it if I wasn't impatient about installing shit
[08:46] <dooglus> unop: whereas in C you need to understand what a pointer is pretty much from the off
[08:46] <gortba_> Bieleke: Thanks
[08:46] <Byan> dooglus: uhmm.. C is not object orientated
[08:46] <FunnyMan3595> Byan: I know what you mean.  I moved my laptop to Gentoo a while back, and installation of software is slow.  Runs slick as ice once it's installed, though.
[08:46] <dooglus> Byan: I know.  Did you think I said it was?
[08:47] <Hudso1> Anyone here have experience with nvidia drivers / envy? I'm having problems installing the drivers to do an aiglx/compiz install
[08:47] <unop> benjm,  errm, have you updated recently ?? maybe there are new versions of squid in the repos already with those patches applied
[08:47] <Byan> you said Python is barely OO, (which I have no idea, never used it), then you said, "whereas" implying that C was the opposite or something
[08:47] <Flannel> guys, take the programming to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:48] <Byan> so, yeah, I thougth you said it was...
[08:48] <benjm> unop, yeah, i just did a complete update of all packages, but still the error persists (and when it happens I have to stop squid and restart it, so a bit annoying)
[08:48] <Gin> can u set a default umask value for a particular directory in your home directory?
[08:48] <Byan> benjm: what error?
[08:48] <nevron> can yoyu help me change my boot settings
[08:48] <dooglus> Byan: Python is properly object oriented, but you don't need to know what that means to use it effectively.
[08:48] <unop> benjm,  maybe a reinstall of squid will do the trick?
[08:48] <benjm> Byan: this one http://www.squid-cache.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=1681
[08:48] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a list of commonly used programs in gnome? I am used to kubuntu but I'm giving ubuntu a try and want to know the gnome equivalents to konqueror, adept, kate, kmail, etc
[08:49] <Byan> benjm: you could try removing the package and then compiling it..
[08:49] <Flannel> dettoaltrimenti: nautilus (local)/firefox (web), synaptic package manager, gedit, uh... no idea.
[08:49] <dooglus> konqueror=nautilus adept=synaptic kate=gedit kmail=evolution
[08:50] <Raovq> is it possible to start up a second x server on another display?
[08:50] <dooglus> Raovq: yes.  type "gdmflexiserver"
[08:50] <fudgeEater> YOYOYOYO
[08:50] <Hudso1> Anyone here have experience with nvidia drivers / envy? I'm having problems installing the drivers to do an aiglx/compiz install
[08:50] <Byan> Raovq: gets rid of the ability to move them in between the two displays though..
[08:50] <benjm> Byan, yeah i would love to compile squid myself, but i am not sure of the procedure for compiling on ubuntu - do you have any urls by any chance?
[08:50] <Raovq> dooglus, gtk warning, cannot open display
[08:50] <nevron> people help me change my boot settings is there a n interface for grubb the boot loader
[08:51] <Raovq> oh
[08:51] <Flannel> !compile | benjm
[08:51] <ubotu> benjm: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:51] <dooglus> Raovq: in a terminal window?
[08:51] <unop> benjm,  i'd suggest a reinstall first -- if that doesnt resolve it - then attempt to compile
[08:51] <Flannel> nevron: usually easiest to edit by hand.  What do you want to change?
[08:51] <dettoaltrimenti> how do I start nautilus/
[08:51] <fek> moin
[08:52] <dooglus> dettoaltrimenti: it's already running probably.  look at the 'places' menu?
[08:52] <benjm> that ubotu link looks great, thanks
[08:52] <nevron> there are some generic verisons and i dont want them listed
[08:52] <dettoaltrimenti> ah thanks. can nautilus be used as a web browser too?
[08:52] <benjm> and unop, yeah but i also want to compile a squid with ssl support in it as well as fixing this bug
[08:52] <nevron> also i am dual booting can i change the timer settings
[08:52] <Flannel> dettoaltrimenti: no, firefox is the ubuntu web browser
[08:52] <Byan> benjm: either you can use the deb compile stuff, or you can compile it right from the tar.gz they have on the site
[08:52] <unop> benjm,  then a compile it is :)
[08:52] <lwizardl> anyone try ubuntu on a compaq proliant 6400r server?
[08:53] <benjm> thanks unop and Byan, you've been very helpful.. also ubotu but i think you are an unthankable bot
[08:53] <unop> Byan,  probably better to get the ubuntu source and then make modifications to it
[08:53] <agliv5> Byan, thanks for the tip :)  I don't have any expierence with gentoo, is this a good place to start? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linuxhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux
[08:53] <dooglus> dettoaltrimenti: no.  the gnome web browser is 'epiphany' - but everyone uses firefox 'cos it's better
[08:53] <Raovq> im just messing about with ssh, my goal is to have a remote desktop and my desktop on the same machine. is it possible/easy to do without a vnc server?
[08:53] <fildo> lwizardl i have a proliant, not that model specific, but yeh i have tried ubuntu on it
[08:53] <Flannel> Raovq: yeah, you'll tunnel X through ssh
[08:53] <Byan> agliv5: people think because you are compiling stuff from source gentoo is easier or something, but it's not really
[08:54] <Byan> gentoo is fairly easy
[08:54] <lwizardl> fildo, and how was it?
[08:54] <Byan> so, if you want to compile everything, get gentoo instead
[08:54] <fildo> not to bad, use smart start
[08:54] <fildo> n work from there, mine was a rack mounted dual 600mhz
[08:54] <Raovq> Flannel, i did that, and opened gnome-session, but it gave me all sorts of graphical weirdness. i was wondering if i could designate the output to a different window or something.
[08:54] <Flannel> nevron: yeah.  the file you want to edit is /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll need to use gksudo or sudo), ther's a 'timeout' variable, which will change the timing
[08:54] <fildo> with 18gigx10 hotswappable scsi
[08:55] <Lam_al_Adie> hi.
[08:55] <nevron> Flannel: sudo nano -B /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:55] <lwizardl> fildo, mines a rackmount quad xenon p3 500
[08:55] <nevron> is tihs the command
[08:55] <Flannel> nevron: that'll work, yes.
[08:55] <fildo> nice
[08:55] <fildo> how much u pay for it?
[08:55] <lwizardl> I have 4 coming
[08:55] <fildo> i ebayed mine, ex cba australia
[08:55] <fildo> i paid 36bucks for mine
[08:56] <Yodude> hey i'm always getting this error when installing flash: automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[08:56] <lwizardl> fildo, hehe repaired someone's xbox (hd died did a chip then formated a drive and locked it to the xbox)
[08:56] <lwizardl> was giving the servers as payment
[08:56] <lwizardl> *given
[08:56] <nevron> flannel can i remove the things that i dont use like 2.6.17-11 generic kernel will it be ok
[08:57] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, do i delete all files in /var/log to empty space?
[08:57] <Lam_al_Adie> i'd need some help switching from debian (sarge) to ubuntu (edgy eft). i got an old machine with a crappy CD-ROM that won't read my ubuntu-cd, but does read a debian-instaler-cd.
[08:57] <Byan> lwizardl: what are the specs of the servers?
[08:57] <Byan> Lam_al_Adie: thats.. weird
[08:57] <Byan> there is no reason it should read one over the other
[08:57] <lwizardl> Byan, quad p3 500, 1gb ram 4x scsi 10gb
[08:57] <chable> hy
[08:57] <chable> hi*
[08:57] <Byan> lwizardl: damn...
[08:57] <lwizardl> byan, iirc
[08:57] <chable> anyone knows how to open udp port 8008 using iptables ?
[08:58] <Byan> lwizardl: sounds like a fun server
[08:58] <unop> gOLdenHaWK3D,  no no .. just the old ones -- e.g. the old versions of /var/log/messages might be messages.0.gz, messages.1.gz etc
[08:58] <Flannel> nevron: Just remove those kernels via apt
[08:58] <Lam_al_Adie> Byan: no, it ain't. the debian-cd is "official", the ubuntu-cd i burned with another cd-writer.
[08:58] <Flannel> nevron: removing the packages will remove the grub entries
[08:58] <nevron> how do i do that can you tell me an example command
[08:58] <amant84> http://chat14.x-echo.com/Salons/index.php?portail=w#
[08:58] <nevron> ok through synaptic?
[08:58] <chable> !iptables
[08:58] <fudgeEater> SYNAPTIC
[08:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:58] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, oh got it!!! but they are too many!!!
[08:58] <Flannel> nevron: whatever package manager you like, just remove the linux-image-[old version numbers]  stuff
[08:59] <lwizardl> Byan, yeah I think I'll run 1 as a webserver, and the others as a NAS server if I can figure it out (nas)
[08:59] <Flannel> nevron: yep, synaptic works just as well.
[08:59] <Byan> Lam_al_Adie: hmmm, you could try burning the ubuntu CD with really slow speeds (4x)
[08:59] <nevron> flannel ok thanks a lot you have been a great help
[08:59] <Byan> Lam_al_Adie: it might work then..
[08:59] <fudgeEater> iat least use a cd burner
[08:59] <fudgeEater> not a dvd burner
[08:59] <Lam_al_Adie> so, my question is this: given a simple debian installation, is it sufficient to change the sources.list and then make a apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:00] <Flannel> Lam_al_Adie: to upgrade to ubuntu?  no.   that probably won't work.
[09:00] <unop> gOLdenHaWK3D,  usually -- you can remove all the ones matching *gz .. check them with this command - ls /var/log/*gz  . if you are happy that they are all old .. you can use this - sudo rm -/var/log/*gz
[09:00] <Lam_al_Adie> Byan: already did, first 16x, then 4x, will try at 1x.
[09:00] <Lam_al_Adie> Flannel: :-(
[09:00] <fudgeEater> use a cd burner!
[09:00] <fudgeEater> u mutha
[09:00] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, thanx
[09:00] <Lam_al_Adie> wouldn't want to order a cd just for that.
[09:00] <Flannel> Lam_al_Adie: for a bunch of different methods, see the following factoid
[09:00] <fudgeEater> you need one
[09:00] <lwizardl> Lam_al_Adie, you having issues burning the ubuntu cd?
[09:00] <Flannel> !install | Lam_al_Adie
[09:00] <ubotu> Lam_al_Adie: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:01] <fudgeEater> I used a dvd burner and it only burned a couple isos
[09:01] <fudgeEater> the others never succeeded after 10 tries
[09:01] <unop> Lam_al_Adie,  you cannot be sure that ubuntu's package versions are > than the ones debian provides -- but otherwise that'll work .. but expect problems tho
[09:01] <fudgeEater> so I used my cd burner and it worked all fine
[09:01] <lwizardl> i use a dvd burner and have burned the ubuntu cd with it
[09:02] <Yodude> unop: please can ou help me with flash?
[09:02] <Lam_al_Adie> lwizardl: not rally, dvdisaster would read the cd with no errors and with at least 24x (in another machine)
[09:02] <fudgeEater> try use a dvd burner and burn red hats isos
[09:02] <nevron> flannel what are these am i removing the packages of the updated kernells
[09:02] <unop> Yodude,  i'll try, whats the matter?
[09:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> !localpurge
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about localpurge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <unop> !localepurge | gOLdenHaWK3D,
[09:02] <ubotu> goldenhawk3d,: localepurge: Automagically remove unnecessary locale data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.6 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 152 kB
[09:02] <Flannel> nevron: yes.  You're removing the old kernels
[09:02] <Lam_al_Adie> unop: i would bet ubuntu edgy eft is in all means newer than sarge.
[09:02] <lwizardl> hmm does the md5 match ?
[09:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, oh! :P
[09:02] <Yodude> i always get this error: automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[09:03] <unop> Lam_al_Adie,  thats an assumption -- not a certainty -- :) so beware
[09:03] <nevron> what is a generic kernel
[09:03] <frogzoo> nevron: no 686 optimisation
[09:03] <Flannel> nevron: it's a kernel that isn't tied to particular processor of the intel family
[09:03] <Byan> Lam_al_Adie: yeah, woody to ubuntu works flawlessly
[09:03] <Flannel> frogzoo: that's incorrect
[09:03] <frogzoo> Flannel: rily?
[09:03] <Byan> Lam_al_Adie: but sarge doesn't.. because there are some packages in which case sarge has a higher version
[09:04] <unop> Lam_al_Adie,  I have tried that tho -- i installed a minimal debian and then used the ubuntu sources -- but the minimal debian was an old sarge
[09:04] <elth_> can anyone recommend a good mud client? :)
[09:04] <Flannel> frogzoo: yes.  the generic kernel has ALL the optomizations in it, loaded at runtime
[09:04] <unop> Yodude,  please address the person you are talking to otherwise they can miss your post in the busy channel :)
[09:04] <frogzoo> Flannel: oh, nice
[09:04] <Yodude> unop: ok lol so what do you think i should do?
[09:04] <Yodude> i can install other packages just fine
[09:05] <unop> Yodude,  have you updated apt recently -- sudo aptitude update
[09:05] <nevron> Flannel why doesnt ubuntu understand that i have an amd athlon cpu?
[09:05] <nevron> is there a way to configure it?
[09:05] <Byan> nevron: hmmm? what does it say
[09:06] <Flannel> nevron: it does.  The kernel doesn't need ot be a special one.  it'll still use the best optomizations for your processor
[09:06] <Byan> nevron: look in /proc/cpuinfo
[09:06] <dooglus> !ati
[09:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <guitarboy2005_db> howdy howdy
[09:06] <nevron> under device manager it says unknown
[09:06] <Yodude> unop: i'll update it now wait
[09:06] <Lam_al_Adie> well, thanks a lot. i'll try with another burn, and if that does not work I'll just swap that drive for a working one from another machine.
[09:06] <nevron> vendor:unknown device:unknown status:status :)
[09:06] <Byan> nevron: open up a terminal and type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:06] <dooglus> that ubuntu.com URL is an https:// one - which browser can view those?  I don't think lynx can.
[09:07] <Flannel> dooglus: lynx can, if you install ssl libraries
[09:07] <unop> Lam_al_Adie,  there's a 90% chance it'll be successful and a 10% chance you'll lose some hair resolving small issues .. but yea, go for it if you feel brave :)
[09:07] <thoreauputic> dooglus: links2 can IIRC
[09:07] <nevron> Byan it does show my cpu there but not under device manager?
[09:07] <Byan> nevron: I wouldn't bother with it in device manager then? who cares?
[09:08] <unop> nevron,  thats gnome for you -- it's quite economical with the truth -- but then, every GUI is
[09:08] <dooglus> is there any text web browser installed by default?
[09:08] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, localepurge freed 37165K of space!!! lol
[09:08] <unop> dooglus,  lynx or w3m i think
[09:08] <thoreauputic> dooglus: w3m
[09:08] <Flannel> dooglus: yes.  i believe edgy has... elinks.  let me double check.  (it's changed a few times)
[09:08] <fudgeEater> lawl
[09:08] <Byan> nevron: heh, btw, says unknown in device manager over here too
[09:08] <thoreauputic> ah interesting...
[09:08] <nevron> unop than there s no problwem everything is working the way they are supposed to right?
[09:09] <funkyzire> can i play psx games with original cds with that pcsx emulator, or do i need to convert them in iso's ?
[09:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, now cleaning my ~/.
[09:09] <dooglus> edgy doesn't have lynx, links, links2 or elinks, but it does have w3m, thanks.
[09:09] <Flannel> dooglus: running 'www-browser' will always work though
[09:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> :)
[09:09] <unop> gOLdenHaWK3D,  yep, localepurge is a good thing, it monitors when you install packages next and will clean up after you then too :)
[09:09] <jordanmore> i need help learning how to install things on ubuntu linux if anyone can help me
[09:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, wow! thanx again
[09:09] <Mr1> jordan: sudo apt-get install
[09:09] <Flannel> !synaptic | jordanmore
[09:09] <ubotu> jordanmore: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:10] <dooglus> I just tried using edgy for the first time this year and found that X doesn't want to start :(
[09:10] <unop> nevron,  well, do you think everything is working as expected? :) if so, then yes :)
[09:10] <dooglus> and I can't install anything because apt-get is downloading over 100MB of updates...
[09:10] <Flannel> dooglus: and, in theory/hopefully, those will fix X ;)
[09:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: edgy has had ... issues. Hopefully Feisty will be better
[09:10] <unop> dooglus,  you could update a subset of packages at a time
[09:10] <fudgeEater> feisty is better....
[09:11] <unop> feisty has issue,...
[09:11] <unop> issues*
[09:11] <thoreauputic> unop: well yes - but it hasn't reached release yet :)
[09:11] <fudgeEater> no
[09:11] <fudgeEater> NO!
[09:11] <fudgeEater> Feisty is nice
[09:12] <unop> thoreauputic,  even so, once it is released, it will have issues -- thats the nature of software, isnt it? :)
[09:12] <Flannel> fudgeEater: Feisty is alpha.
[09:12] <fudgeEater> =(
[09:12] <fudgeEater> meanie
[09:12] <thoreauputic> fudgeEater: sure, but it is still in development
[09:12] <thoreauputic> unop: yes, there will always be bugs :)
[09:12] <Glined|4|life> can i get some help
[09:12] <Glined|4|life> please
[09:12] <thoreauputic> !ask
[09:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:12] <Byan> dooglus: if you want to install something else while the downloads are going.. you can ctrl+c it..
[09:13] <Byan> you won't loose any of the packages already downloaded it
[09:13] <Glined|4|life> ok i cant install ubuntu
[09:13] <unop> thoreauputic,  hopefully not the ones that are "in your face" or dont leave you hanging :) let's hope
[09:13] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I'm not upgrading to edgy from dapper - I already did that a long time ago.  These are just updates since edgy was released I think
[09:13] <agliv5> Byan, my friend told me that if you compile yourself then Ubuntu is more adaptive to your system and it's capabilities... i.e. faster and better...
[09:13] <unop> s/dont//
[09:13] <vanlinx> hey, is it possible to get beryl or XGL onto ubuntu hoary?
[09:13] <dooglus> agliv5: I tried to compile myself, but found the source isn't available.
[09:13] <thoreauputic> dooglus: right - I have edgy on a partition here but mostly I still run dapper
[09:13] <billybob> unop: you familiar with rsync ?
[09:13] <Glined|4|life> and what dose my ubuntu to get files like debian is apt get
[09:14] <dooglus> Glined|4|life: the same
[09:14] <Yodude> unop: it didn't work i still get an error
[09:14] <unop> agliv5,  thats somewhat a misconception -- it depends on the individual software package really
[09:14] <vanlinx> hoary+XGL, is that possible, please help
[09:14] <Yodude> unop: how do you think i can fix it?
[09:14] <agliv5> dooglus, I think it is; however I could be wrong... still looking
[09:14] <Byan> agliv5: yeah.. but.. if your going to do that then why not use a distro made for ricers who want to have everything run slightly faster in exchange for massive compiling time
[09:14] <unop> billybob,  errm, only that its a command and i could use it if i wanted to -- but do ask
[09:14] <unop> Yodude,  you still get the same error? please !pastebin
[09:14] <agliv5> unop, are u suggesting normal install of ubuntu and manual compile of software?
[09:14] <Yodude> unop: ok
[09:15] <Flannel> dooglus: the source is available, don't be silly
[09:15] <Glined|4|life> well lets get to the first problem i am runnin on the live cd how would i install it
[09:15] <bikerman> !restricted formats
[09:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:15] <dooglus> Flannel: really?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: click the install button ?
[09:15] <agliv5> Byan, sounds like a good idea, but I have no idea what you are talking about...
[09:15] <Flannel> agliv5: compiling really won't give you much of a boost, you'll spend more time compiling than you'd gain
[09:15] <Flannel> dooglus: of course.
[09:15] <billybob> unop: i have a problem gettign it to work as i intend, could be my misunderstanding, in short: rsync -av --dry-run --include-from=/home/yyrkoon/files /home/movies /home/backup/
[09:15] <Glined|4|life> ok but i usealy get an error
[09:15] <vanlinx> hello
[09:15] <dooglus> Flannel: I'd love to see it.
[09:15] <billybob> unop: files contains *.jpg only
[09:15] <vanlinx> no ones can read this?
[09:16] <jordanmore> in order to install something on ubuntu does it have to be a certain kind or file like .rpm
[09:16] <dooglus> vanlinx: no
[09:16] <billybob> unop: rsync proceeds to copy EVERYTHING
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: so tell us the error
[09:16] <fudgeEater> alluc.org = #1 source for movies and tv shows!!!!
[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: if you want to compile everything, install gentoo and no ubuntu
[09:16] <fudgeEater> alluc.org = #1 source for movies and tv shows!!!!
[09:16] <Flannel> dooglus: apt-get source [package]  gets the source of that package
[09:16] <fudgeEater> alluc.org = #1 source for movies and tv shows!!!!
[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: http://www.gentoo.org/
[09:16] <Glined|4|life> thats why i said hold on a sec
[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: /join #gentoo
[09:16] <unop> agliv5,  well its like this -- some software's source can take advantage of compiler optmizations, the environment, etc .. some doesnt .. what i find is that compiling software for applications i use often and/or require these optmizations is better than compiling absolutely everything
[09:16] <dooglus> Flannel: right.
[09:16] <agliv5> Byan, and what distro might that be?
[09:16] <fudgeEater> alluc.org = #1 source for movies and tv shows!!!!
[09:16] <Lynoure> fudgeEater: I have no belief you are an actual person, but stop it anyway
[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: the distro is gentoo...
[09:16] <Flannel> !ops
[09:16] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:16] <Yodude> unop: it's in the pastebin now
[09:16] <fudgeEater> Bot error
[09:17] <fudgeEater> errrrrr
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Flannel: ?
[09:17] <unop> Yodude,  whats the url ?:p
[09:17] <Flannel> thoreauputic: fudgeeater
[09:17] <Glined|4|life> it keeps freezeing and its really slow :(
[09:17] <Yodude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5537/ lol:)
[09:18] <unop> billybob,  are /home/yyrkoon/files /home/movies two source directories .. being moved into /home/backup ?
[09:18] <dooglus> hrm.  the edgy update finished, but trying to run X still tells me "(EE) No devices detected"
[09:18] <dooglus> I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:18] <billybob> unop: actually /home/yyrkoon/files is a includes file containing *.jpg only
[09:19] <PwcrLinux> hi there
[09:19] <billybob> unop: in other words, i want to copy all jpg files, nothing else
[09:19] <Byan> dooglus: I was just about to ask you if there was a device attached.. but you are probably using it right now..
[09:19] <vanlinx> wh ycant people see what im writing?
[09:20] <Flannel> vanlinx: Beryl/XGL support is #ubuntu-effects
[09:20] <thoreauputic> vanlinx: have you said anything ? ;-)
[09:20] <nevron> i need to rip some dvds is it easy to do for a starter?
[09:20] <dooglus> Byan: it's a laptop and I'm using the built-in LCD panel.  The graphic card is an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB
[09:20] <dooglus> (it says on the sticker)
[09:20] <unop> billybob,  ok - i think this is it then -- rsync -av --include="*jpg" /home/yyrkoon/files /home/movies /home/backup/
[09:20] <agliv5> Byan, according to unop a complete compile might not be worth it as much as compiling certian packages... I think I will go the mid-route and install base and compile everything else ;)
[09:20] <Yodude> unop: so? what doyou think?
[09:20] <unop> Yodude,  un minute :)
[09:20] <vanlinx> oh ok thanks
[09:20] <Yodude> k :)
[09:20] <Byan> agliv5: actually...
[09:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, how do i remove the games i got preinstalled with gnome?
[09:20] <billybob> unop: okie will give it a go
[09:20] <ruben> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:21] <Byan> compiling the kernal would probably be one of the most.. beneficial things to do...
[09:21] <PwcrLinux> my video driver seem working fine, im still see my system spikes cpu at 100 when I run a FF browser and DVD player..
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Language: English
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Keyboard layout: U.S. English
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Name: mark
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Login name: flip
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Location: America/New_York
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  GRUB will be installed to
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> No partition table changes and no creation of file systems have been
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> planned.
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> If you plan on using already created file systems, be aware that existing
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> files may prevent the successful installation of the base system.
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> what dose that mean?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> !paste | Glined|4|life
[09:21] <ubotu> Glined|4|life: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <billybob> unop: nope, happil still copying the entire contents of /home/movies
[09:22] <unop> gOLdenHaWK3D,  errm, you can use the add/remove programs thingy -- or manually install them
[09:22] <billybob> happily*
[09:22] <Yodude> !pastebin | Glines|for|life
[09:22] <ubotu> Glines|for|life: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <Glined|4|life> sorry but what dose it mean?
[09:22] <unop> Yodude,  aer you on edgy?
[09:22] <Yodude> inop: yes
[09:22] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, can u please tell me the manual way of uninstalling them?
[09:22] <Yodude> unop*
[09:22] <dooglus> Byan: turns out the fix was simple - install xorg-driver-fglrx.  somehow it had gotten uninstalled(!)
[09:22] <Byan> dooglus: weird..
[09:23] <unop> billybob,  ok, what's the status of play with /home/movies .. what do you intend to do with it or file in it?
[09:23] <PwcrLinux> Glined|4|life: if you plan install just linux only or daul boot, which one you would like to put in it?
[09:23] <funkyzire> i get sometimes error from (KDE?) programs: amarok and K3B: cant laun kmail notofier or something
[09:23] <billybob> unop: its a mountpoint XFS file system, for backing up my desktop machine
[09:23] <funkyzire> whats that ?
[09:23] <Glined|4|life> i would like to daul boot
[09:23] <funkyzire> *on gnome
[09:24] <unop> Yodude,  ok, i'd suggest changing you /etc/apt/sources.list to match this - http://pastebin.ca/348620 -- then updating apt again, etc
[09:24] <billybob> unop: right now, im trying to organize my pictures, to put somewhere else
[09:24] <Yodude> unop: k thnkx
[09:24] <PwcrLinux> Glined|4|life: is your windows in your hard drive? I don't know someone might know from here..
[09:24] <Glined|4|life> yes windows is on harddrive
[09:24] <unop> billybob,  ok, wait let me get this straight -- you want to backup picures in  /home/yyrkoon/files? and put them in /home/backup?
[09:25] <billybob> unop: i want to backup everything that ends with *.jpg, from /home/movies, to an alternate directory, retaining directory structures
[09:25] <ny83> can someone tell me if you are using "OTR" for instant messaging, do both people in a conversation need to be using it?
[09:25] <PwcrLinux> anyone, Glined|4|life need help with dual installation.
[09:26] <thoreauputic> !install | Glined|4|life
[09:26] <ubotu> Glined|4|life: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:26] <billybob> unop: target destination is really irrelivent atm
[09:26] <unop> billybob,  errm, why don't you use mv then? :)
[09:27] <billybob> unop: we're talking 10's of thousands of files, in different directories, and i want to retain theeir respect directory structure
[09:27] <Glined|4|life> ok i get an error it says no filesystem is defined
[09:27] <black_13> does ubuntu use dexconf
[09:27] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: read the URLs Ubotu sent you
[09:27] <unop> billybob,  ok, i see where you are going -- the directory might have other files in it and you just want *jpg?
[09:28] <PwcrLinux> <== just pure linux only on the lappy :)
[09:28] <aphexer> I had a dual headed configuration set up fine, but since an update of x11 about a week ago, there are some strange issues... When I move a window to my external screen, it can only move to about the half of the screen. The right half of my external screen is unuseable... Anyone knows how to fix this,
[09:28] <aphexer> ?
[09:28] <unop> billybob,  while maintaing the directory structure of those *jpg in the new location?
[09:28] <billybob> unop: well, some files may have the same name, so they must be in their respective directories (digi cam does that)
[09:29] <unop> billybob,  yes, exactly
[09:29] <PwcrLinux> gn all, off to the bed for now :)
[09:29] <agliv5> Byan, unop, so gentoo + compile everything or i.e Xubuntu + software compile? what would you both recomend? Would it make sence to compile the linux kernel?
[09:30] <billybob> unop: anyhow rsync is supposed to do this, everyone is telling me im doing something wrong, but from what i can tell, im no :/ its quite distressing
[09:30] <Flannel> agliv5: there's really no reason to compile anything.  You'll waste more time compiling (you've wasted more time thinking about compiling) than you'll ever make up in performance benefits
[09:30] <unop> billybob,  you are definitely on the right path -- i'm just making certain that you get the command for just what you want, know what i mean? :)
[09:30] <thoreauputic> agliv5: gentoo if you want to compile - but you get about 1% performance increase anyway :)
[09:30] <dooglus> billybob: you can use 'tar' to do that.
[09:31] <Glined|4|life> how do i find out how mutch space i have available for ubuntu
[09:31] <billybob> unop: yeah, im just very frustrated, been at this for hours.
[09:31] <unop> billybob,  also, i don't see where this /home/yyrkoon/files directory comes into play .. whats it's deal?
[09:31] <aphexer> Glined|4|life, maybe "df -h" will tell you
[09:31] <billybob> unop: its a patch to the include-file
[09:31] <billybob> path*
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: check your space from windows - you should defrag windows before you install Ubuntu as well
[09:32] <billybob> unop: i tried --include, didnt work either, but they are related
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: assuming you want dual boot
[09:33] <billybob> unop: in other words, you can specify an include file, and put the rules, or patterns in it similar to what you'd do with --include
[09:33] <Keitaru> hello
[09:33] <unop> billybob,  yea, i gathered -- i'm trying this out here now, but i seem to be doing something wrong too... gimme 2 secs :)
[09:33] <billybob> unop: and the man page doesnt help much, in that it has loads of unreadable symbols in it for my locale . . .
[09:34] <Keitaru> I am trying to install ubuntu using a Live CD but always seem to freeze at the partition step/install.(this is when the cd stops spinning and it freezes)  Anyone know whats the problem?
[09:34] <mneptok> Keitaru: bad burn?
[09:34] <Keitaru> nope
[09:35] <billybob> unop: i hope this isnt another one of Edgy's quirks . . .
[09:35] <mneptok> Keitaru: did you md5sum the .iso file and check the CD for defects?
[09:35] <Keitaru> mneptok: you mean the option on the live cd where it says Check CD for Defect?
[09:35] <peter__> ?
[09:35] <mneptok> Keitaru: yes.
[09:35] <peter__> quit
[09:36] <Keitaru> I'll try that in a minute I am going to give this another go
[09:36] <mneptok> peter__: /quit
[09:36] <mart81> et OsX er wel weer op, ik vind drie dagen prutsen om bv filmpjes te kijken en het programma voor de aangifte van de belastingdienst te installeren meer dan genoeg.
[09:36] <arnadelo> Keitaru, it happened to me the same whe i tried to install 6.06
[09:36] <mneptok> !nl | mart81
[09:36] <ubotu> mart81: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:36] <arnadelo> but ubuntu 6.10 no problem
[09:36] <cntb> server installations q. , anyone here installed Open Xchange Server on edgy or dapper ?
[09:36] <Lam_al_Adie> Keitaru: you might also want to consider a bad drive ... happens to me just at this moment.
[09:37] <mart81> mneptok: sorry, by touchpad on my xps laptop has this weird behaviour when i go over it sometimes, it was not intended.
[09:38] <mneptok> mart81: keine probleme
[09:38] <Lam_al_Adie> mart81: your touchpad automatically translates englis to dutch? I'm impressed :-] 
[09:39] <billybob> duetch
[09:39] <mart81> :) no it comes from the clipboard, but i sure don't know how...
[09:39] <mneptok> Lam_al_Adie: it's the Operation Market Garden touchpad
[09:39] <cntb> server installations q. , anyone here installed Open Xchange Server on edgy or dapper ?
[09:39] <ruben> me cago en to
[09:39] <ruben> los que este abando
[09:39] <billybob> mart81: you've been haxxored !!!
[09:39] <billybob> :P
[09:39] <mneptok> !es | ruben
[09:39] <ubotu> ruben: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:41] <billybob> unop: it must be giving you fits too eh ?
[09:42] <Mutantx> Can someone help me on how or what command that I can use to set iptables ACCEPT everything on eth0
[09:42] <unop> billybob,  i just remembered whey i dont use rsync -- it's impossible :|
[09:42] <Flannel> Mutantx: the firewall blocks nothing by default
[09:42] <mneptok> unop: huh?
[09:43] <chable> Mutantx flush them
[09:43] <billybob> mneptok: try using it to backup a single file type
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> Okay then. I've been googling this for hours and ive came to a conclusion: ET uses OSS. OSS can only have one program playin stuff at the same time. So basically unless I get a working audio wrapper for ET i cant have xmms and ET running at the same time
[09:43] <billybob> ie *.jpg
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> So.
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> I need a bit of help here
[09:43] <dooglus> billybob: how's this?
[09:43] <dooglus> billybob: cd /image/dir && find dir1 -name '*.jpg' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf)
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> I need both ET and XMMS working at the same time
[09:43] <billybob> that wont work . . .
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> sharing the audio device
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> how can i do this?
[09:44] <dooglus> billybob: why not?
[09:44] <Flannel> atomiku-linux: I'd check the forums.  They have a bunch of threads about games, and I'm sure someone else has shared your plight
[09:44] <billybob> dooglus: we're talking litternally tens of thousands of file, in different directories, and some may have the same name
[09:44] <dooglus> billybob: and?
[09:44] <Mutantx> I'm using firestarter and I have 3 net cards and it's blocking everything on the 3rd card and I'm trying to let everything on go through
[09:44] <dooglus> billybob: tar preserves the directory structure
[09:44] <billybob> and i need the directory structure for each given file to remain intact
[09:45] <billybob> and, i dont want them archived
[09:45] <Flannel> Mutantx: the firewall blocks nothing.  You need something to listen/open a port though.
[09:45] <dooglus> what do you mean by 'archived'?
[09:45] <billybob> dooglus: as in put into a tar, or some other archive type
[09:45] <dooglus> billybob: read it again - it does what you want:    cd /image/dir && find . -name '*.jpg' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf)
[09:46] <dooglus> it copies all the jpg files from /image/dir into /backup, keeping the dir structure
[09:46] <agliv5> thoreauputic, so stick to Xubunt + compile packages?  Would there be any reason to compile the linux kernel or is it alread optimal?
[09:46] <billybob> dooglus: ill give it a go
[09:46] <billybob> seems too good to work though
[09:47] <dooglus> billybob: do you have any called '.jpeg' or '.JPG' or other such endings?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agliv5: unless you are quite experienced, compiling a kernel is kind of pointless
[09:47] <billybob> jpg
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agliv5: and Ubuntu kernels are patched to work well on Ubuntu
[09:47] <Mutantx> Flannel: It's firestarter that's blocking everything on eth3 and I don't want it to
[09:47] <billybob> dooglusL i may halso have some png etc also, but thats not an issue
[09:47] <dooglus> billybob: better, so it only works on files:    cd /image/dir && find . -type f -name '*.jpg' -o -name '*.png' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf)
[09:48] <dooglus> you can string different types together with '-o' (for 'or')
[09:48] <thoreauputic> agliv5: the only time I compile *anything* is if it isn;t in the repositories
[09:48] <Yodude> unop: lol guess what?
[09:48] <mneptok> billybob: why don't you just use include/exclude paraweters/files for rsync?
[09:48] <Yodude> unop: it still gives me the same error
[09:48] <funkyzire> what device is my keyboard ?
[09:48] <dooglus> another good reason to compile things is when there's a bug in the repository version.  it's very hard to get bugs fixed in the ubuntu repositories
[09:49] <atomiku-linux> back
[09:49] <atomiku-linux> Flannel: ive been searching for ages
[09:49] <Flannel> dooglus: no it's not.  Why do you think we have updates?
[09:49] <funkyzire> i mean: a joystick would be /dev/js0
[09:49] <atomiku-linux> thought id ask here so i can get some live support
[09:49] <billybob> tar: Old option `f' requires an argument.
[09:49] <funkyzire> what should i put in there if i use a keyboard ?
[09:49] <dooglus> Flannel: I think updates are mostly for security patches aren't they?  not for functionality.
[09:49] <billybob> dooglus: why do i even need 'f' ?
[09:50] <billybob> tar: Old option `f' requires an argument.
[09:50] <dooglus> billybob: sorry...
[09:50] <dooglus> billybob: better, so it only works on files:    cd /image/dir && find . -type f -name '*.jpg' -o -name '*.png' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf -)
[09:50] <atomiku-linux> How can I have ET and XMMS both playing sound? (Sharing the audio device) I know I gotta use some audio-wrapper since ET uses OSS and OSS can only have one sound playing at a time
[09:50] <mneptok> billybob: why don't you just use include/exclude paraweters/files for rsync?
[09:50] <billybob> mneptok: becasue includes dont seem to be working
[09:51] <mneptok> billybob: what syntax are you using?
[09:51] <Keitaru> it froze when gpart thing loaded any idea what gpart is?
[09:51] <dooglus> billybob: you don't need the 'f' or the '-':
[09:51] <dooglus> billybob: cd /tmp/dir1 && find . -name '*.jpg' | tar cT - | (cd /tmp/dir2 && tar x)
[09:52] <Keitaru> i am also running disc check defect right now
[09:52] <Flannel> dooglus: bugfixes and security
[09:52] <felixhummel> hi!
[09:52] <dooglus> Flannel: most bugs I report get no activity on them for 6 months or so, followed up with a question "is this still an issue" and then "rejected"
[09:53] <felixhummel> does anyone know how to remap keys in mc (midnight commander)?
[09:53] <Flannel> atomiku-linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=250175&postcount=3  seems to indicate it should work
[09:53] <billybob> dooglus: you just did, in one line, what ive been trying to do for hours with perl, and now rsync . . .
[09:53] <dooglus> billybob: cool
[09:53] <billybob> dooglus: two brownies for you !
[09:53] <dooglus> yum
[09:53] <billybob> thanks very much
[09:54] <dooglus> billybob: I was as surprised as you were that tar doesn't have a --include option
[09:54] <mneptok> but rsync does
[09:54] <unop> billybob,  you can't have gone wrong in perl surely :)  find /target | grep -i "jp.g" | perl -lne 'chomp;$s=$_;s[/target/] [] ;print "mv $s /home/backup/$_"'
[09:54] <dooglus> unop: that wouldn't copy any .jpg files at all
[09:55] <billybob> unop: my perl sucks
[09:55] <dooglus> unop: only .jpeg, .jpig and so on?
[09:55] <mneptok> and --exclude. and --include-from=/path/to/file.
[09:55] <nevron> people can you help me backup some decrypted dvds?
[09:55] <billybob> mneptok: ive been at rsync for hours . . .
[09:55] <unop> dooglus, minor - find /target | grep -i "jp.*g" | perl -lne 'chomp;$s=$_;s[/target/] [] ;print "mv $s /home/backup/$_"'
[09:56] <billybob> mneptok: --include=, and include-from= both seemed to be borked
[09:56] <dooglus> unop: I know.  just amused me that you said "you can't have gone wrong in perl" and then went wrong in perl...
[09:56] <Yodude> hey is there any alternative to the adobe flash player plugin?
[09:56] <Yodude> i can't seem to be able to install that one
[09:56] <mneptok> billybob: what syntax are you using?
[09:56] <unop> dooglus, that wasnt perl's part :)
[09:56] <billybob> mneptok: sec
[09:57] <dooglus> unop: that perl won't work if there are any spaces in filenames either
[09:57] <Flannel> Yodude: not really
[09:57] <Yodude> man i'm always getting an error!
[09:57] <Flannel> Yodude: did you follow the wiki?
[09:57] <Yodude> it's always not installing
[09:57] <unop> dooglus,  actually it's a dry run -- as he'd orginally wanted -- its not even copying anything now
[09:57] <billybob> mneptok: rsync -av --dry-run --include-from=/home/yyrkoon/files /home/movies /home/backup/
[09:58] <Yodude> nearly
[09:58] <billybob> mneptok: and yes, i know thats a dry run . . .
[09:58] <Yodude> give me the link again would u?
[09:58] <Flannel> !flash | Yodude
[09:58] <ubotu> Yodude: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:58] <mneptok> billybob: Yyrkoon?!
[09:58] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:58] <billybob> yyrkoon ;)
[09:58] <billybob> lol
[09:58] <unop> dooglus, but then again, it's small - find /target | grep -i "jp.*g" | perl -lne 'chomp;$s=$_;s[/target/] [] ;print`mv "$s" "/home/backup/$_"`'
[09:58] <Flannel> Yodude: you should probably do flash9, at that.  from backports (just download the deb and install with dpkg -i), don't add backports to your sources.list, that's asksing for trouble)
[09:59] <Yodude> !backports
[09:59] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:59] <mneptok> billybob: the --include-from= expects a text file with thi include directives. not a source dir.
[09:59] <Yodude> flannel: can you give me the link to the backports site?
[09:59] <dooglus> unop: how would you copy the files?  that won't work if there are double quotes in the paths?
[09:59] <billybob> mneptok: that is a text file, no extension, is that my problem ?
[09:59] <Flannel> Yodude: it's right there.
[09:59] <agliv5> thoreauputic, but mplayer / mencoder works better (My personal oppinion) when you compile yourself...
[10:00] <agliv5> thoreauputic, for example...
[10:00] <unop> dooglus,  ahh come on -- first spaces, now quotes .. things you shouldnt be using in filenames anyway
[10:00] <thoreauputic> agliv5: quite possible - I'm not against compiling as such
[10:00] <nevron> can anybdy help me backup dvds?
[10:00] <dooglus> unop: I shouldn't?  why not?
[10:01] <thoreauputic> agliv5: for instance i compiled a more recent version of fluxbox that isn't in the repos
[10:01] <frogzoo> nevron: k3b
[10:01] <dooglus> unop: my point is that it's quite easy to get it wrong in Perl
[10:01] <billybob> mneptok: yeah, anyhow, i dont know whats worse, me using yyrkoon as a username, or the fact i know the name Dyvim T'var, and Theleb K'aarna by memory ;)
[10:01] <doktoreas> hi to all
[10:01] <mneptok> billybob: rsync -a -v -h --progress --dry-run --exclude=. --include=\>jp.g /path/to/source /path/to/target
[10:01] <dooglus> unop: you've also omitted to create the destination directories...
[10:01] <Yodude> in which category does flash player fall? utilities?
[10:01] <pavs_> is possible to sync tomboy over several PC?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> agliv5: and sometimes a package gas problems that can be solved by compiling yourself
[10:02] <billybob> mneptok: ill give that a try
[10:02] <thoreauputic> s/gas/has
[10:02] <doktoreas> i have an hp printer on a win xp box...can i use it for printing from ubuntu?
[10:02] <mneptok> billybob: and Voilodion Ghagnasdiak? ;)
[10:02] <billybob> Elric should be obviousl tho, and arioc ;)
[10:02] <billybob> Arioc*
[10:02] <mneptok> +h
[10:03] <Flannel> Yodude: easiest to go through packages.ubuntu.com: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=flashplugin-nonfree
[10:03] <DLB|Maximus> can someone tell me how i go about changing my default route
[10:03] <billybob> mneptok: viloa !
[10:03] <DLB|Maximus> route shows eth0 instead of wlan0
[10:04] <mneptok> billybob: works?
[10:04] <billybob> yessir, is that regex ?
[10:04] <mneptok> it'tis
[10:04] <frogzoo> DLB|Maximus: sudo route add default dev lan0
[10:04] <billybob> no wonder
[10:05] <mneptok> billybob: exclude=. means "exclude everything. sync nothing."
[10:05] <billybob> mneptok: you know, i thought about that
[10:05] <DLB|Maximus> frogzoo: whats the dev?
[10:05] <mneptok> billybob: include=\>jp.g means "include any file that ends with jp*g"
[10:05] <billybob> mneptok: but everyone was telling me just worry about the includes
[10:05] <DLB|Maximus> oh, device?
[10:06] <billybob> mneptok: so i could replace with pn.g ?
[10:06] <billybob> is.o etc ?
[10:06] <atomiku-linux> eyetoy usb webcam drivers for linux?
[10:07] <atomiku-linux> !eyetoy
[10:07] <Flannel> billybob: png is the file extension, not pnig or anything.  its because jpg could be jpg or jpeg
[10:07] <Lynoure> billybob: everyone was wrong. If you do not have exclude, everything is included (see man rsync for details)
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eyetoy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <mneptok> billybob: or make a text file with "\>jp.g" and "\>png" each on one line and call that text file as the include file
[10:07] <geeksauce> is there an FTP client with a decent gui already installed in edgy?
[10:07] <gortba_> good night
[10:07] <Ademan> any vim users know how to yank text so it goes into your clipboard so you can paste it into other programs?
[10:07] <Flannel> geeksauce: yeah, nautilus.  use places > connect to server
[10:07] <billybob> Lynoure: i would except every other symbol in the man page is unreadable with my locale
[10:07] <mneptok> geeksauce: no. sudo aptitude install gftp
[10:08] <billybob> not literally, but might as well be . . .
[10:08] <Ademan> geeksauce: nautilus lets you manipulate a remote server as if it's local
[10:08] <Lynoure> billybob: oh, but luckily there are plenty of mans online.
[10:08] <billybob> Lynoure: i tried, honestly google was my first recourse man second
[10:08] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, is there any sort of Ubuntu roadmap? I'm keen to know when Tomcat 5.5 will be available.
[10:09] <geeksauce> just need to dl some files from xbins and transfer to my xbox... nothing too fancy needed
[10:09] <Lynoure> billybob: I'm not criticising you. :)
[10:09] <mneptok> billybob: let this be a lesson. those with minds weird enough to read Moorcock can usually learn regex without going completely mad. ;)
[10:09] <christof-kr> hi. i'd like to buy a "new" graphics card. is a card with nvidia 6200 chip well supported with xinerama setup (1x CRT and 1x TFT)?
[10:09] <billybob> Lynoure: google is always > man ;)
[10:09] <Flannel> CrummyGummy: when was it released?
[10:09] <billybob> Lynoure: yes, i understand this has been a very frustrating several hours for me
[10:10] <Flannel> CrummyGummy: er, 5.5 is already available, in edgy.
[10:10] <billybob> im just glad everythign works now, and two ways to do it thanks to mneptok, and dooglus :)
[10:10] <billybob> mneptok, dooglus: thanks very much, again :)
[10:11] <billybob> lol
[10:11] <geeksauce> what does "need to get 0B of archives" mean?
[10:11] <billybob> you evil human wizard you
[10:11] <Lynoure> geeksauce: no need to download anything
[10:11] <mneptok> billybob: you don't know how many people in the Ubuntu community would agree with that sentiment ;)
[10:12] <billybob> lo, black hate ?
[10:12] <geeksauce> lynoure is that what that means?
[10:12] <billybob> lol*
[10:12] <billybob> hat . . .
[10:12] <DLB|Maximus> how do i go about making sure wlan0 is brought up at boot if im not using network manager or something like that?
[10:12] <CrummyGummy> Flannel, Really? I installed it yesterday and didn't see it...
[10:12] <billybob> black hat, man, it must be bedtime
[10:13] <Flannel> CrummyGummy: it's in universe, yeah. 'tomcat5.5'
[10:13] <mneptok> billybob: if i was, that rsync help would have included a request for an account on your machine ;)
[10:13] <CrummyGummy> Ah, must look with eyes open...
[10:13] <CrummyGummy> thanks
[10:13] <Lynoure> geeksauce: that all you need is already downloaded or available locally
[10:13] <billybob> lol
[10:13] <billybob> mneptok: two subnets, and a router to go through :P
[10:14] <geeksauce> lynoure i was downloading gftp... am i to assume that said app and respective dependencies are already in place?
[10:14] <frogzoo> geeksauce: means you already have it in cache
[10:14] <Flannel> geeksauce: if not, you'll be currently downloading the dependencies
[10:14] <Lynoure> geeksauce: that whan the text you quoted means
[10:14] <ruben> hello
[10:15] <Dreamglider> is it easy to setup dual screens ?
[10:15] <Yodude> hey which email client is better? evolution or thunderbird?
[10:15] <geeksauce> frogzoo: not sure how those files are cached but how can i install gftp?
[10:15] <Lynoure> geeksauce: what did the other lines say? If you have removed it and are installing it, they are probably still in on the disk.
[10:15] <Yodude> and can evolution be synced with an iPod?
[10:15] <billybob> mneptok: hmm now for some reason, when i take --dt-run out, it resorts to copying EVERYTHING
[10:16] <atomiku-linux> Damn! Ive installed eyetoy drivers and they work well except when it makes the microphone input high pitched! What shall I do?
[10:16] <billybob> when i take dry-run out*
[10:16] <Dreamglider> at home i like to use two screens, the laptops lcd and a crt. and in school i just use the lcd
[10:17] <geeksauce> !pastebin
[10:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:18] <geeksauce> lynoure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5538/
[10:19] <mar1> hello i am boot installing off a live cd and the start bar where it says applications ect is not there i have loaded in to this disk many times and it has been there it just all the sudden disappeard
[10:19] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[10:19] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:19] <billybob> mneptok: something is definately borked
[10:20] <mar1> when i install will the start bar also be gone?
[10:21] <mar1> !startbar
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <mackinac> mar1, right click on the bar and select "add to panel"
[10:21] <mar1> there is no bar
[10:22] <mar1> they are both gone
[10:22] <mackinac> oh, the whole panel...
[10:22] <mar1> yes
[10:22] <geeksauce> is there any way in xchat-gnome to open up a new server tab?  need to connect to a different server without disconnecting from freenode
[10:22] <thoreauputic> mar1: hit alt-F2 and type gnome-panel
[10:22] <mackinac> can you get a terminal?
[10:22] <mar1> no makinack
[10:22] <mackinac> do what thoreauputic said :)
[10:23] <Dreamglider> geeksauce,  Ctrt-T
[10:23] <Ayabara> I'm following the instructions for connecting to my nokia via bluetooth, but I'm not quite there yet. How do I perform bluetooth pairing in ubuntu?
[10:23] <mar1> no5hint opend thoreauputic
[10:23] <mar1> nothing **
[10:23] <geeksauce> dreamglider: not working
[10:23] <Terminus> hello. is `mkfs.ext3 -O dir_index` practical on a 320GB fs?
[10:23] <stef> geeksauce: /newserver
[10:23] <thoreauputic> mar1: OK hit alt-F2 and type gnome-terminal , then in the terminal type killall gnome-panel
[10:24] <Dreamglider> geek you use XCaht 2.6.6 ?
[10:24] <Dreamglider> geeksauce,
[10:24] <Dreamglider> XChat*
[10:24] <thoreauputic> mar1: if that doesn't bring it back, type gnome-panel again in the terminal
[10:24] <norf-ubu> !beryl
[10:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:24] <Lynoure> geeksauce: "0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 131 not upgraded." It's not upgrading or installing anything, possibly because some of the packages have been kept back. Try to do apt-get update  and retry
[10:24] <billybob> mneptok: specifcally, when i have al those files in the destination directory already, then i run rsync, it works, but if not, it doesnt owrk
[10:25] <geeksauce> can't get multiple servers in xchat-gnome.  /newserver causes a second instance of the app to run and crashes just about everything i have running
[10:25] <unska_> how can i get .mpg decoder?
[10:26] <cassidy> geeksauce: IRC -> connect
[10:26] <cowbud> unska_: do you want to watch a mpeg video?
[10:26] <mackinac> mar1, did the liveCD session start like that?
[10:26] <unska_> cowbud, yes
[10:26] <Yodude> hey should i get beryl or compiz?
[10:26] <cowbud> unska_: and when you open it with totem it doesn't play?
[10:26] <Yodude> which one is better?
[10:26] <unska_> cowbud, thats right =)
[10:27] <geeksauce> cassidy: yes but that will disconnect me from freenode
[10:27] <cowbud> unska_: does any sound play cuase if I recall a standard mpeg should be playable
[10:27] <unska_> nope but i can play xvid and avis fine because i have ffmpeg or something like that :o
[10:27] <cowbud> unska_: are you sure it is a valid mpeg file if you are able to play xvid you shouldn't have an issue with mpeg..
[10:28] <Yodude> hello? help please?
[10:28] <unska_> ill test with another clip
[10:28] <mackinac> !help
[10:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:28] <cowbud> unska_: is it from a camera? sometimes those don't play nicely..
[10:28] <thoreauputic> Yodude: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:29] <unska_> cowbud, ive tested several mpgs and mpegs and none of them work :o
[10:29] <m_o_k> hello
[10:29] <unska_> there should be nothing wrong with the files
[10:29] <ub2> hello what is the terminal in ubuntu?
[10:29] <cowbud> unska_: alright try this: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[10:29] <cowbud> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \
[10:29] <cowbud> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[10:29] <cowbud> grr
[10:30] <thoreauputic> ub2:  gnome-terminal by default ( xterm is also installed )
[10:30] <cowbud> that was supposed to be on one line
[10:30] <unska_> hehe
[10:30] <cowbud> unska_: basically the line at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy under multimedia players
[10:30] <funkyzire> i cant get pcsx to run :/
[10:30] <funkyzire> where should i search for help
[10:30] <funkyzire> i tried google
[10:30] <funkyzire> the problem is i dont get an error
[10:30] <ub2> thanks thoreauputic
[10:30] <funkyzire> just a big black screen
[10:30] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:30] <cowbud> thoreauputic: clever name
[10:31] <thoreauputic> cowbud: opinions vary, but I've used this nick for years now so I won't change it :)
[10:31] <cowbud> thoreauputic: I was serious
[10:31] <thoreauputic> cowbud: :)
[10:32] <cowbud> ;)
[10:32] <ub2> is this in africa?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> ub2: ?
[10:32] <Dreamglider> ub2,  this is in cyber space.
[10:33] <unska_> cowbud, it started working fine :)
[10:33] <ub2> heard ubuntu was from africa so want to know if this server is in africa or if anyone is from africa?
[10:33] <mar1> ok i have my applaction bar now is there a way to run a server to where some one could help me something like vnc?
[10:33] <unska_> is there a way to see .wmv? i only hear it now
[10:33] <Yodude> hey no one is answering e at the #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <Yodude> can someone here help me?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> ub2: you could be on any number of servers in the irc.freenode.net network
[10:33] <christof-kr> hi. i'd like to buy a "new" graphics card. is a card with nvidia 6200 chip well supported with xinerama setup (1x CRT and 1x TFT)?
[10:33] <mackinac> ub2, the login window should show you what freenode server you're on
[10:33] <cowbud> unska_: that site I told you about ;) sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll && rm -r ~/.gstreamer-0.10/
[10:33] <cowbud> should let you see wmv9
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Yodude: questions about "which is better" rarely produce clear answers :)
[10:34] <unska_> why rm gstreamer?
[10:34] <cowbud> unska_: so did it turn out your mpegs are actually wmv? and I am assuming so that it will recreate the available plugins list..
[10:34] <Yodude> thoreauputic: can you suggest one to me? please?
[10:34] <mar1> can i get some help i cannot install it it keeps getting stuck at 22% and then it just freezes
[10:34] <Yodude> i don't know which one to get
[10:34] <Chousuke> the ffmpeg gstreamer plugin should be able to play wmv9 too
[10:34] <Dreamglider> Mark Shuttleworth, the father of ubuntu is a south african if im not wrong
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Yodude: no, because I haven't used either :)
[10:35] <unska_> cowbud, no the mpegs were mpegs and they started working fine but i would also like to have wmvs working
[10:35] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: you're not wrong :)
[10:35] <Yodude> i'll get beryl
[10:35] <Yodude> lol it seems cooler
[10:35] <mar1> can  some one help me
[10:35] <mackinac> !anyone
[10:35] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:36] <mackinac> !patience | mar1
[10:36] <ubotu> mar1: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:36] <krantix> i need to run ms access 2003 on ubuntu... is there any way around? crossover does not support access... but maybe by copying some dlls from a windows installation :-)
[10:36] <Dreamglider> allso called Mark Ubuntu Shuttleworth :)
[10:36] <cowbud> ohh snap
[10:36] <cowbud> marl you could start by saying what you are trying to achieve..
[10:36] <ub2> does ubuntu mean dog?
[10:37] <cowbud> ub2: im sure google knows
[10:37] <mar1> cowbud i am trying to install ubuntu
[10:37] <cowbud> or ubuntu.com for that matter
[10:37] <Dreamglider> ub2,  no it means humanity to mankind
[10:37] <Dreamglider> or somthing like that
[10:37] <cowbud> marl and what is your issue?
[10:37] <mackinac> mar1, is this the first time you ran the liveCD?
[10:37] <mar1> no its not mackinac
[10:37] <mar1> cow bud it gets stuck at 22 %
[10:38] <cowbud> marl: with no errors?
[10:38] <mackinac> mar1, how much RAM do you have?
[10:38] <mar1> nope no errors it just freezes
[10:38] <Dreamglider> ub2,  Humanity towards others
[10:38] <mar1> 992
[10:38] <mar1> mb
[10:38] <valehru> Hey guys, is there a way I can change the default icon placement in gnome?  Right now it alligns to the right hand side of the screen.  Is there a way I can get it to auto align to the left hand side?
[10:38] <cowbud> marl have you tried with the noacpi option?
[10:39] <mar1> no i have no clue what that is
[10:39] <ub2> yea align under properties you can get it to do top or bottom
[10:40] <ub2> point it at the  panel line
[10:40] <valehru> marl, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and insert noacpi into the boot options
[10:40] <mar1> alright i got an error this time it says no root file
[10:40] <antonisgr> hi guys. I use ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop with widecreen monitor. When i choose the 1280x800 resolution, the screen make some glitches,wrong textures e.t.c Is there any way to fix it?
[10:40] <mar1> **no root file system**
[10:40] <cowbud> valehru: that is probably kinda tough considering it is a live cd..
[10:40] <Madeye> guys, I'm trying to install kde-base but ran into dependency hell! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5539/
[10:40] <valehru> ahh...soz...
[10:41] <cowbud> grr I forget if there is a noacpi option booting to the cd..
[10:41] <cowbud> lets find out..
[10:41] <valehru> cowbud, it shouldnt be needed for the cd.
[10:41] <m_o_k> i'am searching for an app that can find duplicate images.
[10:41] <cowbud> valehru: really
[10:41] <cowbud> and why is that
[10:42] <frogzoo> cowbud: acpi=off
[10:42] <valehru> cowbud, well, I have that problem with my system, but I never needed it for the live CD.
[10:42] <valehru> Each time I update grub that needs to be added
[10:42] <cowbud> well it is good that everyone is helping the wrong person
[10:42] <cowbud> in the meantime I bothered to boot to a cd to find out how to do it for him
[10:43] <krantix> so nobody can help me have access 2003 running on ubuntu :-)
[10:43] <cowbud> marl: next time you boot hit F6 and add noacpid at the end add acpi=off
[10:43] <thoreauputic> krantix: #winehq
[10:43] <ub2> bye thanks for the help
[10:44] <cowbud> marl: hah that was confusing I mean hit F6 before it starts and add acpi=off to the end
[10:44] <mar1> where do i hit f6 ? when it ask's me where you to ask me where i want to boot from
[10:44] <Edulix> hi
[10:44] <cowbud> marl: when you first see the ubuntu boot screen and it says Start or install ubuntu
[10:44] <Edulix> anyone here has a wifi card with AR5005G and working monitor mode?
[10:45] <mar1> alright
[10:45] <jhaig> krantix: If crossover office doesn't support it, then it is unlikely that wine will as cxoffice is just the commercial version of wine.
[10:45] <mar1> brb
[10:45] <cowbud> Edulix: did you install the patched madwifi drivers?
[10:45] <geeksauce> i downloaded ccxstream for linux.  it has a makefile... what do i need to do to run it?
[10:45] <Edulix> cowbud:  I'm about to do that
[10:45] <cowbud> Edulix: well that would be the first step
[10:46] <marcin_ant> hi guys I'm following howto about setting up ubuntu server as firewall/router (on howtoforge) and got one question
[10:46] <krantix> ok thanks!
[10:46] <marcin_ant> do I need to set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward value to 1 in order to have nat enabled?
[10:46] <Edulix> cowbud: ok =)
[10:46] <jhaig> krantix: I believe that .NET stuff doesn't work well (at all?) in wine.
[10:46] <cowbud> Edulix: it is pretty is to do you shouldn't have too much trouble if you are used to compiling stuff..
[10:47] <jhaig> krantix: (I don't know that Access 2003 is .NET, but I'm guessing that it is)
[10:47] <krantix> jhaig, thanks... will try anyway :-)
[10:47] <Edulix> cowbud: I'm used to
[10:47] <albe84tr> can I ask some stuffs about mozilla and linux... I have just installed it.. and i dont know anybody in this country I live who can help me....
[10:48] <jhaig> krantix: If you really need it you could try setting up a vmserver to run windows.
[10:48] <geeksauce> can anyone help me get this running?  i'm new to the whole needing to compile source files thing :)
[10:48] <Edulix> cowbud: some people recomend using patching it with http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/madwifi-ng-r1886.patch but I think the patch doesn't affect my card ?
[10:48] <jhaig> geeksauce: The usual way is "./configure" followed by "make" and "make install"
[10:48] <david> when upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 on boot after upp grade i get a grey distorted ubuntu screan this is for amd 64 version i386 works fine but i want to run the 64 version
[10:49] <david> oh and it dosent boot
[10:49] <jhaig> geeksauce: "make install" needs to be run as root, unless you want to install it in your home directory.
[10:49] <mackinac> !compile | geeksauce
[10:49] <ubotu> geeksauce: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:49] <cowbud> Edulix: hrmm it is from january of 2007 so i'd say chances are it does but since I don't have that particular card I can unfortunately not confirm or deny that..
[10:49] <cowbud> id say give it a try
[10:50] <krantix> jhaig, i have vmware but it's very slow... (i've only 1GB of ram)
[10:50] <Edulix> cowbud: ok do you have any tutorial to recomend?
[10:50] <albe84tr> the problem is that both with firefox and mozilla when I go to some pages the program closes and thats all... I dont know why
[10:50] <mar2> i did not see that option cowbud
[10:50] <welemski> is it ok to discuss programming here?
[10:50] <geeksauce> jhaig: "./configure command not found"
[10:50] <mar2> gumby is that you off hbh??
[10:50] <cowbud> Edulix: not really http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:GvkMklNN3vEJ:huwico.hu/~litch/wep/ubuntu_wep_hack.pdf+madwifi+monitor+ubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us&client=firefox-a might help
[10:50] <jhaig> krantix: Too slow even if all you are running in it is one application?
[10:51] <Lam_al_Adie> hmmmm, `loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz vga=normal ramdisk_size=14972 root=/dev/rd/0 rw --` says bye-bye with "RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data". I tried with a ramdisk of 16M, but that would not work either.
[10:51] <lagrimo> hi
[10:51] <cowbud> Edulix: http://huwico.hu/~litch/wep/ubuntu_wep_hack.pdf or the actual pdf
[10:51] <lagrimo> whats wrong here? http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7499/
[10:51] <Lam_al_Adie> will i need a bigger RD or something else?
[10:51] <albe84tr> ah... nobody answer me...
[10:52] <jhaig> geeksauce: That is the usual way of doing it, but obviously not in the case of your application.  Try reading any readme or install files, and also follow mackinac's suggestion.
[10:52] <Edulix> cowbud: ok thanks. I'll be back when wifi starts working again
[10:53] <mar2> cowbud that option was not available??
[10:53] <cowbud> mar2: F6?
[10:53] <jhaig> krantix: I suppose using a different database is out of the question.  :-)
[10:53] <mackinac> mar2, its not an option you can select. at the boot menu screen, hit F6 then add "acpi=off" at the end of the text that pops up
[10:53] <mackinac> then enter
[10:53] <mar2> ok thanks
[10:53] <cowbud> mackinac: thank you ;)
[10:54] <mackinac> np
[10:55] <albe84tr> I wrote my easy problem last time than if somebody want to help me can write later... both firefox and mozilla when i click on continue in the window that speaks about ecrypted information close by it-selfs
[10:55] <albe84tr> no error msgs or anything like that
[10:55] <welemski> i have a question for mozilla firefox i dunno if it is a bug...
[10:56] <albe84tr> super!
[10:56] <albe84tr> welemski it is not my same problem? isnt it?
[10:57] <welemski> nope... but is it appropriate to ask about it here? about certain firefox bug?
[10:57] <krantix> jhaig, i'm trying to migrate to mysql... i've found navicat for creating easily queries...
[10:58] <krantix> is there a better program?
[10:58] <mar1> ok got it acpi=off correct?
[10:58] <cowbud> mar1: yah
[10:58] <mar1> ok now what?
[10:58] <cowbud> krantix: mysql-admin is a possibility maybe..
[10:59] <cowbud> mar1: hit enter and try to install again
[10:59] <mackinac> enter then see how it runs
[10:59] <albe84tr> i asked and no answer then probably... it isnt :-)
[10:59] <mar1> cowbud can i pm you
[10:59] <cowbud> sure
[10:59] <geeksauce> what is a file with a .c extension?
[10:59] <F-nkyMNK> marl: you can pm me to, but yeah, i have not much to say
[11:00] <F-nkyMNK> geeksauce: its a C file (C as in the programming language). So, its basically raw code
[11:00] <jhaig> krantix: I don't know navicat so I cannot comment on that.
[11:01] <jhaig> krantix: If you are going to migrate to MySQL, couldn't you do that in Windows and then replace Windows when you don't need to run Access anymore?
[11:01] <ploom> geeksauce, use "file any-file-name" command, where instead of any-file-name is the .c file you want to identify the content type of any file
[11:01] <mar1> ok cowbud i pmed you
[11:01] <albe84tr> hey anybody can say at least "This is not the topic" or "I have no time" so I try to find some other solution?!?
[11:01] <albe84tr> ...
[11:01] <Lynoure> albe84tr: let me do lastlog on you first
[11:01] <cowbud> mar1: uh you did?
[11:01] <mar1> yes
[11:01] <cowbud> I didn't get it hah
[11:02] <krantix> jhaig, i'll try... who knows :-) anyway.... why do my kde application look quite ugly on gnome? is there a way to have a better look (buttons, texts...)?
[11:02] <albe84tr> ok
[11:02] <Lynoure> albe84tr: you mean your FF occasionally crashes?
[11:02] <Lynoure> laway
[11:02] <mar1> ill try again
[11:02] <albe84tr> no every time...
[11:02] <mar1> did you get that time
[11:02] <mackinac> you can't pm if your nickname isn't registered
[11:03] <geeksauce> i had this working before i reformatted...forgot how though.  there is a shell script included with the archive but i cannot get it to run
[11:03] <cowbud> ahh there ya go so no I didn't
[11:03] <mackinac> create a new channel
[11:03] <albe84tr> ok one sec
[11:03] <cowbud> mar1: join #mar1
[11:04] <ploom> its a matter of taste, but haven't kde apps always looked ugly?
[11:05] <ploom> ...for a gnome freak
[11:05] <darkstar> hi there
[11:05] <tombow> kde == win95 emulator
[11:05] <darkstar> 'morning everybody I need some help if u can
[11:05] <mackinac> lol
[11:06] <Lynoure> tombow: That's just trolling
[11:06] <mackinac> !ask | hi darkstar
[11:06] <ubotu> hi darkstar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:06] <darkstar> alreight, then...
[11:06] <slippyr4> hi all, is there any way to load a propriatary module into the kernel during install?
[11:07] <darkstar> I have messed up with a recursive permission chang and ended up changing permission to my user to lots of files..
[11:07] <suguru> How can I find all python .deb and mark and install them all without clicking each one?
[11:07] <darkstar> is there a script that can check essential files ownership and revert?
[11:07] <albe84tr> is it ok now....
[11:08] <ploom> krantix, a lot has changed since 2004, but here is one link that might interest you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56630
[11:08] <unop> suguru, why do you want to do that? you'll be installing a lot doing so
[11:08] <rpc> is it possible to run something on cron more often than every single minute? i would like 30s interval
[11:08] <darkstar> just reverted /etc/sudoers but truthfully don't know how many more files have been changed by -R
[11:08] <unop> rpc,  use a script that sleeps for 30 seconds and run it every minute :)
[11:08] <albe84tr> lynoure... are you there ?
[11:08] <rpc> unop well yes that would work ;)
[11:09] <ploom> krantix,  and then there comes http://www.google.ee/search?q=make+kde+applications+look+nice+on+ubuntu
[11:09] <rpc> but does it mean that cron can't run more frequently than 1min?
[11:09] <Lynoure> albe84tr: yes, but you never answered my question on your problem
[11:09] <Lynoure> albe84tr: so I thought you no longer want any help
[11:09] <jhaig> rpc: For something that needs to run that often, it would probably be a better idea than by using cron.
[11:09] <unop> rpc,  afaik no, but most of the time i'm wrong :p
[11:09] <rpc> he he unop
[11:09] <albe84tr> no sorry is that i though that this msg i get it red because it was personal then i registered
[11:09] <suguru> I need all python packages.  How can I get a pk mgr to show all python so I can mark them all automatically and then just let computer pkg mgr dl
[11:09] <rpc> jhaig i read you, it's just better not to call it so often? ok
[11:10] <rpc> unop hm this sleep 30 trick is cool
[11:10] <krantix> ploom, thanks!!!
[11:10] <albe84tr> the problem is that when in every browser
[11:10] <mackinac> darkstar, just wait a while and ask your question (in one line) again if nobody gets to it right away
[11:10] <unop> suguru,  thats not answering the question.. i asked you why you want to do that because i might be able to help you better then
[11:10] <jhaig> rpc: If, for whatever reason, it hangs you could end up with a lot of processors running very quickly.
[11:10] <rpc> jhaig mhm
[11:10] <aarohi> how do i change the theme settings for kde apps?
[11:11] <unop> rpc,  it's a trick that has been around for a long time
[11:11] <albe84tr> the window that asks me if i am sure to send ecrypt information apear
[11:11] <rpc> unop but that might be a bit of insecure as jhaig says
[11:11] <rpc> just wondering
[11:11] <darkstar> mackinac, alright... just like to avoid having to re-install the whole system
[11:11] <rpc> it's a VERY simple script... it only checks if a process is running
[11:11] <albe84tr> then whan i click on continue the program crashes
[11:11] <rpc> so hopefully it won't cause any troubles
[11:12] <ploom> krantix, it would be nice if you could provide some "before" and "after" screenshots maybe ;-)
[11:12] <Lynoure> albe84tr: Anything about in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[11:12] <jhaig> rpc: If the process needs to be checked every 30 seconds, I would suggest that something needs to be done about that instead.
[11:12] <albe84tr> no window appear to indicate any error it just close
[11:12] <unop> rpc,  if a script fails, it fails - it's upto you to do the exception handling off course and ensure that it cleanly exits  .. but the fact that you run it every minute ensures that a new one is run even if the previous one should fail
[11:12] <Lynoure> albe84tr: did you check .xsession-errors at least?
[11:13] <albe84tr> I dont know what it is
[11:13] <Lynoure> albe84tr: in all browsers you say? Which ones have you tried?
[11:13] <albe84tr> firefox
[11:13] <albe84tr> and mozilla
[11:14] <albe84tr> and i can not install opera because some database problem
[11:14] <Lynoure> albe84tr: are you on dapper or edgy?
[11:14] <unop> rpc, jhaig is right tho, if the script fails and hangs about, it's likely all other instances of the script will fail and you dont want too many scripts hanging about -- but you can get your own script to kill it's predecessors if they are hanging about :)
[11:14] <albe84tr> Mozilla/5.0
[11:15] <albe84tr> hard question... i have installed ubuntu 2 days ago...
[11:15] <aarohi> how do i change the theme settings for kde apps?
[11:15] <Lynoure> albe84tr: Do you have ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10?
[11:15] <albe84tr> no 5.10
[11:15] <suguru> I need all python packages because I am a professor who needs to be ready to show whatever any student wants to know.  How can I get kpackage apt or synaptic to just show all python packages ready for marking so I can dl them all?  Synaptic will show them all easy.  But marking each one by hand and waiting for synaptic is a pain.
[11:16] <albe84tr> and I cant download 6.10
[11:16] <Lynoure> albe84tr: then I recommend upgrading, 5.10 is not supported very long anymore (just couple of months)
[11:16] <suguru> I am running edgy.
[11:17] <geeksauce> can someone help me compile some C source?
[11:17] <albe84tr> so help me to make it upgrade because when i try
[11:17] <albe84tr> an error occurs
[11:17] <albe84tr> :
[11:17] <Lynoure> albe84tr: :?
[11:18] <unop> suguru,  i suggest doing this in two parts -- first part -- aptitude search python > py_packages  .. and then edit the py_packages file to exclude/delete the packages you don't need -- second part - sudo aptitude install $(cat py_packages | cut -c 3-30 | xargs)
[11:18] <albe84tr> i am trying to install to read the error msg properly
[11:20] <albe84tr> cant install ubuntu-desktop, it wasimpossible to install  a required package. Please report it as a bug...
[11:20] <albe84tr> i am trying to install 6.06
[11:21] <rpc> unop you are right, just trying to fix a proper error handling code :)
[11:21] <albe84tr> and  then can not calculate the upgrade
[11:22] <suguru> unop  Thanks I will go try that.
[11:23] <unop> rpc, that's the trickiest, hardest and meanest part of programming/scripting  :)
[11:26] <Edulix> hi
[11:26] <Edulix>  it works very well, included monitor mode
[11:27] <mips> where does the pppoe.conf file live ?
[11:27] <Edulix> lets see if I can crack my own wep key ;)
[11:27] <erUSUL> mips: /etc/ppp/*
[11:28] <mips> erUSUL and if there is no such file there /
[11:28] <geeksauce> ok i figured out that ccxstream has no install for "make install" but how do i get the .c files into useable binaries?
[11:28] <erUSUL> mips: /etc/ppp/options <<< main conf file for pppd
[11:29] <albe84tr> are you there?
[11:29] <geeksauce> anyone?
[11:29] <mips> erUSUL is that the same as pppoe.conf then /
[11:31] <albe84tr> lynoure...
[11:31] <albe84tr> where are you... my hero !!!!!!!
[11:31] <thoreauputic> mips: are you confusing this with the command "pppoeconf "  ?
[11:31] <erUSUL> mips: what do you want to change?
[11:32] <mips> erUSUL I need to add ACNAME= parameter
[11:32] <erUSUL> geeksauce: gcc -o exefile exefile.c <<<
[11:33] <Lynoure> albe84tr: Work took my attention for the bit
[11:33] <welemski> is there an update for mono in ubuntu in the repository?
[11:33] <albe84tr> anybody can help me? mozzilla and firefox too are crashing when I chose ok whan a window asks me if I want to send encryp info....
[11:34] <albe84tr> and i can not upgrade to 6.06
[11:34] <albe84tr> from 5.10
[11:34] <Lynoure> albe84tr: you could of course try to tell the browser never to ask that and see if it happens still.
[11:34] <albe84tr> because to problems that are bugs...
[11:34] <albe84tr> HELP!
[11:35] <unop> mips,  locate ppoe.conf
[11:35] <albe84tr> i did... it happens
[11:35] <unop> mips,  you might need to run updatedb first if you recently installed ppoeconf
[11:35] <thoreauputic> unop: no such file - maybe mips should look at man pppoeconf
[11:36] <NeoCicak> hi.. i've just downloaded some new fonts, hoping that i can use them on my desktop (gnome)... but it turns out that I cant use some of them... can any of u guys tell me what are the criteria for a font to be usable for desktop fonts?
[11:36] <geeksauce> erUSUL:  not working... just throwing mad errors.
[11:36] <thoreauputic> possibly ppposeconf creates such a file ...
[11:36] <thoreauputic> umm pppoeconf
[11:36] <unop> thoreauputic,  it's likely
[11:37] <Pooky> I've got a weird issue, whenever gnome pops up a dialog for any app that needs sudo, the screen gets dim, and then where the dialog box should be, nothing shows up. Any ideas why that might be happening?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> unop: I don't know - I use a router so I haven't needed pppoeconf :)
[11:37] <erUSUL> geeksauce: i'm sure the package has some readme or install file explaining how to build the thing
[11:37] <sitchuk> Please help: how to install the GCC compiler on Ubuntu Dapper? There is no one by default. I have tried "sudo apt-get gcc make", but there is no any libraries and header files after that. Thanks.
[11:38] <Lynoure> albe84tr: And is this how you are upgrading: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14 ?
[11:38] <unop> thoreauputic,  same here but i seem to recall the name from someone else in here who had a problem with it
[11:38] <geeksauce> erUSUL: heh, i wish it did.  the readme contains useless info like how to use the program AFTER it's been compiled.  no install file at all.
[11:38] <unop> sitchuk,  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:39] <Pooky> nevermind, I just realized it's only happening in beryl, I'll go ask there.
[11:39] <albe84tr> yes it is...
[11:39] <albe84tr> and then it cant complete it
[11:39] <sitchuk> unop, thank you, I'll try.
[11:40] <unop> !build-essential
[11:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:40] <GoingCrazy> i wanted to bring to peoples attension about 3d desktop and issues with laptops
[11:40] <GoingCrazy> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[11:40] <albe84tr> shall I write again the  errors?
[11:41] <GoingCrazy> in case anybody asks about hp laptops and cant get the 3d running ... its the sideport in the bios
[11:41] <Madeye> nyone can help me with this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5540/
[11:42] <erUSUL> geeksauce: here http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/download_files.htm they recomend using samba over ccxserver...
[11:42] <VSpike> can I automate a web form that uses POST from a script?
[11:42] <Lynoure> albe84tr: I'll need to go, but the next person will probably want to see the errors and your sources.list in pastebin
[11:43] <albe84tr> pastebin?
[11:43] <unop> Madeye,  what does this command return ? ls -ld /usr/X11R6/share
[11:43] <geeksauce> erUSUL i know, but i prefer a dedicated app to stream video, so only my xbox can see the shared media
[11:43] <albe84tr> who will be the next person?
[11:43] <cowbud> albe84tr: I don't think anyone with the attitude you have
[11:44] <albe84tr> wich attitude i have?
[11:44] <frogzoo> VSpike: perl/python choose your poison
[11:45] <albe84tr> big ?
[11:45] <cowbud> albe84tr: reread some of your messages. So what is your goal to get a browser working or to upgrade to ubuntu 6.06?
[11:45] <praveen> i am using, Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 03) and after running 3ddesk iam getting the following error
[11:45] <VSpike> frogzoo: thanks
[11:45] <Yodude> hey can someone help me with beryl?
[11:45] <unop> Madeye,  you still there?
[11:45] <praveen> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[11:45] <praveen> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[11:45] <praveen> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[11:45] <praveen> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[11:45] <Yodude> when i logged into XGL i got an ugly theme
[11:45] <frogzoo> Madeye: have you tried reinstalling/then remove?
[11:45] <unop> !paste | praveen
[11:45] <ubotu> praveen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:45] <Yodude> and there was not effects
[11:45] <Madeye> unop, yes, I'm back sorry d/c
[11:46] <geeksauce> maybe this will shed some light on things >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5541/
[11:46] <unop> Madeye,  what does this command return ? ls -ld /usr/X11R6/share
[11:46] <praveen> ubotu:ok
[11:46] <frogzoo> Madeye: have you tried reinstalling/then remove?
[11:46] <suguru> I got an error in step 2
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <Madeye> frogzoo, I couldn't install it from the first place, it was all broken so now I'm trying to remove what been installed
[11:46] <Yodude> can someone help me please?
[11:46] <lolman> Yodude: #ubuntu-effects is better for Beryl questions :)
[11:46] <Madeye> unop,  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-13 12:36 /usr/X11R6/share
[11:46] <Yodude> but nobody answers me there
[11:46] <suguru> /var/cache/apt/archives# aptitude install $(cat /home/js/56/linux/debPackages/SudoInstallAllThesePackages.sh | cut -c 3-30 | xargs)
[11:46] <suguru> Reading package lists... Done
[11:46] <suguru> Building dependency tree
[11:46] <suguru> Reading state information... Done
[11:46] <suguru> Initializing package states... Done
[11:46] <unop> suguru,  use a !pastebin and show us some output :)
[11:46] <suguru> Building tag database... Done
[11:46] <suguru> Couldn't find package "install".  However, the following
[11:46] <suguru> packages contain "install" in their name:
[11:46] <suguru>   debian-installer kinstaller zope-cmfquickinstallertool libextutils-autoinstall-perl installation-guide-sparc libmodule-install-perl
[11:46] <suguru>   installation-guide-hppa app-install-data adept-installer libdebian-installer-extra4 mini-dinstall debian-edu-install f-prot-installer
[11:47] <suguru>   rancid-installer libdebian-installer4 installation-guide-i386 scsh-install-lib typo3-site-installer daemontools-installer installation-guide-amd64
[11:47] <albe84tr> both of that... sorry if i was unpolite... but i cant use this chat and I cant use ubuntu at all.. for this reason i am asking...
[11:47] <suguru>   djbdns-installer installation-report libsub-install-perl libdebian-installer4-dev gnome-app-install systeminstaller qmailanalog-installer
[11:47] <unop> suguru,  you're pretty dumb arent ya?
[11:47] <suguru>   checkinstall installwatch libdebian-installer-dev installation-guide-ia64 libsysadm-install-perl app-install-data-commercial
[11:47] <suguru>   installation-guide-powerpc
[11:47] <unop> !ops
[11:47] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:47] <suguru> E: Unmatched '('
[11:47] <suguru> E: Badly formed pattern $(cat
[11:47] <suguru> The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
[11:47] <suguru>   python2.5-minimal
[11:47] <faemir_> suguru: FGS use pastebin
[11:47] <Seveas> !paste | suguru
[11:47] <ubotu> suguru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:47] <frogzoo> Madeye: there's no x permission on the directory - very odd
[11:48] <unop> frogzoo,  its not even a directory :p
[11:49] <mitkoz> ola
[11:49] <unop> Madeye,  try this -- sudo sh -c "mv /usr/X11R6/share  /usr/X11R6/share.bak; aptitude install -f"
[11:49] <Madeye> frogzoo, aha! ok , I remove it, created it as dir, then it complained about share/app.link so I created it and it worked!
[11:49] <Madeye> thanks
[11:49] <mitkoz> ola
[11:49] <CrakeHunter> monring! whats the command for ending a "vpnc" - session?
[11:49] <frogzoo> unop: in Madeye's paste, find seems to think it should be a directory
[11:50] <frogzoo> Madeye: choice
[11:50] <erUSUL> geeksauce: a simple "make" build everythimg for me
[11:50] <unop> frogzoo,  indeed, and his /usr/X11R6/share wasnt a directory -- Madeye> unop,  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-13 12:36 /usr/X11R6/share
[11:50] <geeksauce> erSUL: that's the command that threw all those errors :)
[11:50] <Lucifel> How would I go about forwarding a single port from my machine to another on the LAN?
[11:51] <frogzoo> Lucifel: google 'iptables + DNAT'
[11:52] <albe84tr> I have to upgrade 5.10 to 6.06
[11:52] <albe84tr> but 2 errors occur:
[11:52] <erUSUL> geeksauce: most likely you lack *-dev packages try installing the basic build-essential and then libc6-dev....
[11:53] <albe84tr> and it is writen they are bugs...
[11:53] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: libc6-dev is a dependency of build-essential
[11:53] <albe84tr> anybody wants to help me? I offer a dinner in istanbul...
[11:54] <bauer77> albe84tr: Do you pay for the flight to?
[11:54] <erUSUL> thoreauputic: good to know, i stand corrected ;)
[11:55] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: :) apt-cache depends build-essential
[11:55] <haec> hello, does anyone know why I get a burst pipe error when I try to install the ati fglrx pack? Is there something i'm (not) doing correctly?
[11:55] <haec> like prior to installation
[11:58] <CrakeHunter> does anyone know the command fo stopping my vpnc- VPN connection?
[11:59] <albe84tr> hey guys please! somebody helps me... I have to write my final-work in one month and I can not use this ubuntu... nobody uses linux in this country!!!!!!!
[12:00] <BrendanM> abe84tr, what seems to be the trouble?
[12:00] <BrendanM> Also, does anyone know if there's a piece of free software that'll let you fill out PDF forms? Or do I have to get the official Adobe reader?
[12:00] <albe84tr> I can not upgrade to 6.10
[12:00] <BrendanM> Do you need 6.10 to write your final?
[12:01] <albe84tr> no but so manythings are not working
[12:01] <mattfletcher> is there any way to quickly restore the default gnome panels? i've played with mine that much i want to start again
[12:01] <geeksauce> erSUL: ok, installed necessary packages and made a little improvement.  here is what i get now with 'make' >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5542/
[12:02] <albe84tr> like mozilla or firefox crashes when i click ok on continue in the window that asks me if I wanna send ecrypt msg
[12:02] <BrendanM> albe84tr, why don't you figure out what the minimum you need to have working in order to finish your schoolwork, and then concentrate on just doing that. If you're having trouble upgrading to 6.10, you might be able to just reinstall from a 6.10 CD
[12:02] <BrendanM> that could save you time
[12:02] <unop> geeksauce,  what package is this in relation to?
[12:02] <BrendanM> albe84tr, what're some of the things that aren't working on 6.06?
[12:02] <albe84tr> I have 5.10
[12:02] <geeksauce> unop: it isn't in relation to any package
[12:03] <unop> geeksauce,  so, it's random code? :)
[12:03] <geeksauce> unop: haha, no... sourcecode (c) that i can't seem to compile
[12:03] <albe84tr> like mozilla or firefox crashes when i click ok on continue in the window that asks me if I wanna send ecrypt msg
[12:04] <BrendanM> So...no suggestions for PDF software that can handle fill-in forms?
[12:04] <unop> geeksauce,  bahh, ok then, whats the name of the source-package  you are trying to install? :p
[12:05] <geeksauce> unop: ccxstream
[12:06] <BrendanM> albe84tr, I can read your PM, can you read mine?
[12:06] <mattfletcher> is there any way to quickly restore the default gnome panels? i've played with mine that much i want to start again
[12:06] <BrendanM> albe84tr, which version of firefox are you running? I've heard 1.5 is kind of glitchy. You might try upgrading to 2.0
[12:07] <unop> geeksauce,  i'd try this -- sudo aptitude install gnulib
[12:07] <BrendanM> albe84tr, also, if you just need a working web browser ASAP, try installing Opera, and worry about fixing FF later.
[12:07] <albe84tr> ok but I can not
[12:08] <BrendanM> albe84tr, why not? Is your internet connection no good?
[12:08] <albe84tr> brendan; bacause i tryed in the menu you can chose the aplications and
[12:09] <BrendanM> albe84tr, I wouldn't use the "add programs" thing, do you know how to open the synaptic package manager?
[12:09] <albe84tr> brendan; bacause i tryed in the menu you can chose the aplications
[12:09] <albe84tr> brendan. no
[12:10] <geeksauce> unop: installed that... same errors as last time
[12:10] <Cin> hey, when I press print screen, is there a way I can make it be taken by GIMP instead of the default?
[12:11] <albe84tr> brendan.. ok found
[12:11] <erUSUL> geeksauce: you need libreadline-dev
[12:11] <BrendanM> albe84tr, here is a direct link to download opera: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux
[12:12] <unop> geeksauce,  hmm, do you have an INSTALL or README file in the source directory? check them and make sure you satisfy the prequisites too
[12:12] <BrendanM> if firefox won't work well enough to download it, we can go at it anther way, but try that
[12:12] <erUSUL> geeksauce: please use tab completion of my nick i almost missed the last msg
[12:13] <Dimensions> How can i add something in Sessions via terminal without accessing it via System Preferences Sessions ??
[12:13] <geeksauce> erSUL:  tab completion?
[12:13] <geeksauce> erUSUL*
[12:14] <lolman> geeksauce: you can type part of someone's nick, then hit tab and the IRC client will complete it for you
[12:14] <erUSUL> geeksauce: well most irc clients can complete the nicks hitting <tab> as bash do with commands and filenames
[12:14] <just-this-time> \o is rssh chroot jailed by default ? where can I read how to use rssh ?
[12:15] <erUSUL> geeksauce:  i only type ge<tab> and your nick is completed for me... ;)
[12:15] <albe84tr> brendan but other small things are not working... so somebody told me to upgrade it because 5.10 it is not good any more
[12:16] <BrendanM> albe84tr, oh, you're on 5.10? Then yes, I would suggest upgrading. I thought you were on 6.06 LTS
[12:17] <BrendanM> albe84tr, have you tried upgrading to 6.06 instead of going all the way to 6.10? I've heard that can work better.
[12:17] <albe84tr> Could not open "opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[12:17] <albe84tr> Archive type not supported
[12:17] <[H4z3] > Hey guys im having a problem with jdk... Im running dr java... and it says it cant find tools.java
[12:17] <just-this-time> albe84tr: backup home dir and etc to other disk / partition / computer
[12:18] <just-this-time> !java
[12:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:18] <Dimensions> Hiya ..... To run a script when we login to system we add it to /usr/bin and add its name into System Preferences --> Sessions --> and add it to Startup Programmes ... how can i do the same via terminal ??
[12:18] <[H4z3] > thanks ill have a look
[12:18] <albe84tr> brendanM couldnt install opera
[12:18] <BrendanM> albe84tr, yeah, can you just back up your home directory and then do a clean reinstall from a 6.10 install disc? Honestly, that will probably be the simplest. That will also get you firefox 2.0 which should work better.
[12:18] <assasukasse> i have a problem, sudo mc and in general terminal window is extremely slow, what can i do?
[12:18] <unop> Dimensions,  you mean add a startup script for bash?
[12:19] <[H4z3] > I have done what that says.. And it says it installed fine.. yet i still get the error
[12:19] <unop> assasukasse,  why the need to sudo?
[12:19] <assasukasse> unop sometime i use mc for modification on /etc so is convenience to use sudo mc
[12:19] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you can also enter "sudo aptitude install opera" at a terminal to install opera. Anyone know if he needs multiverse enabled?
[12:19] <just-this-time> assasukasse: also if in X (GUI) try krusader
[12:19] <geeksauce> erUSUL: thanks :)  works fine now
[12:20] <Dimensions> unop i donno but currently when i want to run a script or programme automatically on system startup i add it to System Preferences Sessions .... how can i add it via terminal instead ?
[12:20] <erUSUL> geeksauce: no problem ;)
[12:20] <assasukasse> just-this-time but i would have to install the whole kde libs no?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> BrendanM: opera is in the commercial repo - whether it is available for anything but 6.06 I don't know
[12:20] <aimtrainer> hi! does anyone now how I can edit a symlink? I just wana open it with a texteditor, but it always opens the file it points to
[12:21] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: you can not "edit a symlink"
[12:21] <BrendanM> would it be easier for albe84tr to get firefox 2.0? has that been backported to 5.10?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> aimtrainer: you don't edit symlinks - you replace or remove them
[12:21] <assasukasse> exactly gnome terminal is slow in starting and in executing commands
[12:21] <unop> thoreauputic,  i believe you can install the opera available in the commercial repo on any version of ubuntu (dapper and upwards)
[12:21] <aimtrainer> thoreauputic, yea the problem is that creating the symlink I want doesnt work
[12:21] <mitkoz> ola nhvdfgjh
[12:21] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[12:21] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[12:22] <aimtrainer> .. havent tried it in the shell yet
[12:22] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: symlinks in unix are very different of direct access of windows... only vista (at least) will support proper symlinks
[12:22] <BrendanM> how would he enable the commercial repos from the CLI? I've always done it through synaptic.
[12:22] <mitkoz> jijjoj
[12:22] <mitkoz> hhhhh
[12:22] <unop> assasukasse,  does the same behaviour exhibit itself in another terminal -- something like xterm or rxvt ?
[12:22] <assasukasse> unop i don't have them installed
[12:23] <unop> assasukasse,  i think xterm is installed by default (not entirely sure)
[12:23] <assasukasse> but i notice that it speeds up alot if i delete .metacity and .nautilus for a few bootup, then became slow again..unop
[12:23] <aimtrainer> what'S the command to create a symlink in the konsole?
[12:23] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: man ln
[12:24] <unop> Dimensions,  what you could do is add an oddly named script named foobarbazquuz, add it up to the startup list via the GUI and then try and locate the same name from the terminal
[12:24] <unop> assasukasse,  you using gnome-terminal right?
[12:24] <assasukasse> unop do u have idea how to use windows icons on wine? i mean taking them out from exe? my wine uses always the same icon for every exe
[12:24] <Lucifel> frogzoo I think that was on the right track, but I didn't seem to get the results I was looking for
[12:24] <assasukasse> unop yes gnome-terminal
[12:24] <albe84tr> brendan if you tell me how to upgrade on line wouldnt be better?
[12:24] <aimtrainer> thanks erUSUL
[12:24] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: no problem
[12:25] <erUSUL> ubotu tell albe84tr about upgrade | albe84tr see priv msg from ubotu
[12:25] <Lucifel> I'm trying to tunnel a MS Remote Desktop connection to access a machine on the same LAN as an ssh server
[12:25] <unop> assasukasse,  there's probably a way to extract the icons from the exe's resource table .. but i'm not sure how that'd work on linux
[12:25] <Lucifel> I got this far http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5545/
[12:26] <unop> assasukasse,  i dont like gnome-terminal -- it's extremely heavy for a terminal -- you should really try another term (atleast to rule gnome-terminal out)
[12:26] <assasukasse> unop sorry i found it already http://www.winehq.com/pipermail/wine-users/2005-September/018892.html
[12:26] <assasukasse> unop i was used for rvxt, but i would try something with more features..
[12:26] <Lucifel> the -p 5822 being a port forwarded to the ssh server
[12:26] <assasukasse> unop how can i change the default terminial?
[12:27] <suguru> unop, I pasted into pastin.something and ubuntu-pastin.nl now I am stuck in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5547/  what should I do next?
[12:27] <Enselic`> Is the magnetic field from a subwoofer strong enough to threaten my harddrive?
[12:27] <unop> assasukasse,  i didnt know there could be one :) usually i just have a keyboard-shortcut as i dont tend to use icons and menus
[12:27] <Goldenphoenix> Enselic, not the magnetic field, but the Bass :-)
[12:28] <Enselic`> Goldenphoenix: :D      I'm not actually placing it immediately on top of it
[12:28] <Enselic`> it's on its of shelf
[12:28] <Enselic`> put very close
[12:28] <Enselic`> but*
[12:28] <Dimensions> unop:  what i can do is that add script in /usr/bin and add its name in startup list via GUI in sessions .... but my question :- can i do the same without opening GUI my goal is to write some script to add it to there
[12:29] <Lucifel> How do I forward a MS Remote Desktop port from an ssh server to the destination doze machine on same LAN?
[12:29] <mitkoz> helol
[12:30] <Goldenphoenix> Enselic, normally the magnetic field is not strong enough to influence your harddrive
[12:30] <pihus> Hi ya'll. Anyone knows why multiple apps cannot play a sound at the same time (e.g. aMSN & bmp)?
[12:30] <BrendanM> albe84tr, instructions for upgrading from 5.10 can be found here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[12:30] <mitkoz> hello
[12:30] <Enselic`> Goldenphoenix: is that guess or a fact?
[12:30] <Enselic`> Goldenphoenix: I dont want to appear as paranoid, but my hd is precious to me
[12:31] <Goldenphoenix> pihus, do you know about esd ?
[12:31] <unop> suguru,  if the first command is -- aptitude search python > installallthesepackages.sh; then change the second one to this -- sudo aptitude install `cat installallthesepackages.sh | cut -c 3-30 | xargs`
[12:31] <Lucifel> Enselic` my sub came with a disclaimer saying not to use within 2 feet of electronic devices
[12:31] <albe84tr> brendan thanks a lot... if you come to ist let me know
[12:31] <Cin> d'oh
[12:31] <F-nkyMNK> bye all
[12:31] <Cin> er..
[12:31] <albe84tr> istanbul
[12:31] <pihus> jeap i know, but since switching bmp to esd, it doesen't play a thing anymore
[12:32] <Enselic`> Cin: any mysterious hd happenings yet?
[12:32] <mitkoz> yamame606678100
[12:32] <Lucifel> Enselic` so I'm not sure I'd take the chance if you have the option
[12:32] <unop> Dimensions,  you can add commands to the ~/.xinitrc -- so that they are executed everytime you start X
[12:32] <assasukasse> unop i changed the menu with xterm, however i dunno if gnome-terminal is the default one..
[12:32] <Yodude> hey i need to remove a file i added to /
[12:32] <Yodude> how do i remove it?
[12:32] <BrendanM> No problem albe84tr. It looks like you can't upgrade directly to 6.10. So you'll want to follow that guide to upgrade to 6.06. That should probably be good enough to get your work done. 6.10 isn't that big of an improvement.
[12:33] <Cin> Enselic`, er, both of them are dead. I'm using my laptop
[12:33] <okay> hi
[12:33] <Cin> Enselic`, possibly related. but both are bout five years old anyway
[12:33] <ahave> ubuntu doesnt seem to play application sounds yet it will play login/logout sounds
[12:33] <Goldenphoenix> Enselic`: the hd is build with metal around, that's shield the magnetic field
[12:33] <ahave> how can i correct this?
[12:33] <mitkoz> ay algen q able espanol
[12:33] <okay> lorsque je ping avec l'option -f j'ai un E comme rsultat, je n'arrive pas trouver la signification! qq1 peut-il m'aider
[12:33] <mok> Yodude: sudo rm * ?
[12:33] <unop> !fs | okay
[12:33] <okay> oups sorry
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <unop> !fr | okay
[12:33] <ubotu> okay: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:34] <pihus> How to get bmp working with esd?
[12:34] <unop> !es | mitkoz
[12:34] <ubotu> mitkoz: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:34] <okay> when i ping with -f option, i have E as result! somebody know why plz?
[12:34] <mitkoz> olaaaaaaaaaa
[12:34] <Yodude> mok: it says rm: cannot remove `/etc/X11/Sessions/Xgl-beryl': No such file or directory
[12:35] <finn> !nvidia
[12:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <Cin> anyone know of a program that can record your screen?
[12:35] <Cin> to video format
[12:35] <CheshireViking> Goldenphoenix, just saw your thread, I had a subwoofer sat on top of my desktop case for 7 years, never had any problems with the hard drive, but the subwoofer broke a couple of months ago
[12:35] <Cin> say, if I want to create guides or whatever
[12:35] <mitkoz> unop olaaaaaaaa
[12:35] <albe84tr> brendan...
[12:36] <unop> okay,  can you use a !pastebin and show us some of what you see there
[12:36] <albe84tr> edit:12428): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:36] <albe84tr> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:36] <Lucifel> I'm looking to connect MS Remote Desktop through an ssh tunnel to a box on the same LAN. How would I accomplish this? I've gotten this so far: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5545/ but the iptables entry doesn't seem to work
[12:36] <mok> yodude: then the file isnt there i think..
[12:36] <albe84tr> i can not upgrade...
[12:36] <albe84tr> :-(((
[12:36] <Goldenphoenix> ChechireViking: lol
[12:36] <unop> albe84tr,  did you try and sudo something just now?
[12:36] <erUSUL> !es | mitkoz
[12:36] <ubotu> mitkoz: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:37] <bulishko> laudis klau, ka es varu restratet savu apach nerestartejot PC?
[12:37] <bulishko> :)
[12:37] <unop> Lucifel,  does the windows machine you want to "remote desktop" to have an SSH server installed?
[12:37] <just-this-time> assasukasse: I see you on GNOME
[12:38] <albe84tr> unop yes...
[12:38] <mitkoz> erusur q m quieres decir
[12:38] <Lucifel> unop no I was hoping to forward the port from a box on the same LAN that does
[12:38] <bulishko> ups, sorry, not for this chanel :)
[12:38] <erUSUL> mitkoz: lee el mensaje de ubotu
[12:38] <unop> albe84tr,  you really have ought to use gksudo there instead and then you wont see those messages
[12:38] <just-this-time> unop how do I install SSH on windows machine?
[12:39] <TMH_> crap! I've just locked myself out of my system with some careless usermodding. How can I solve this problem?
[12:39] <albe84tr> unop i can not upgrade in any other way
[12:39] <mitkoz> n l e podido ler q dice
[12:39] <Lucifel> ssh on Windows sux so I was hoping to use the Ubuntu box I tunnel into to forward traffic along to the remote desktop destination machine
[12:39] <TMH_> actually never mind i think i know the solution
[12:39] <unop> Lucifel,  ok, well, i trust you know what you are doing there -- but anyway, since you are tunneling port 3389-in-ssh .. you need to configure IPtables for the SSH port .. port 5822 here i believe
[12:40] <erUSUL> !es > mitkoz
[12:40] <Lucifel> Well 5822 is forwarded to 22 on the tunnel machine
[12:40] <albe84tr> unop i can not upgrade in any other way... help me please
[12:40] <unop> albe84tr,  you trying to upgrade what exactly?
[12:40] <Lucifel> That part I got to work, and I tested it creating something similar to tunnel VNC directly to the Ubuntu machine
[12:40] <albe84tr> ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 or 6.10
[12:41] <mitkoz> erusur eres xiko o xika no me entr d nada
[12:42] <erUSUL> mitkoz: este canal es en ingles si quieres ayuda en espaol con ubuntu entra en #ubuntu-es ( /join #ubuntu-es )
[12:44] <albe84tr> unop... I am trying to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to ubuntu 6.10/6.06
[12:44] <erUSUL> albe84tr: what comand is failing ?? gksudo "update-manager" ??
[12:45] <pihus> !!bmp
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <pihus> !esd
[12:45] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[12:45] <albe84tr> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:45] <albe84tr> (gedit:12546): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:45] <albe84tr> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:45] <Lucifel> unop if I change those 3389 ports on the local line to 5900 I can VNC into the Ubuntu ssh target machine as expected
[12:45] <pihus> grr
[12:46] <unop> Lucifel,  errm, i'm not sure if 3389:localhost:3389 is the right spec here .. please verify that, somehow i dont see that transporting RDP traffic to 10.0.0.14:3389 .. also, are you just trying to open a port in the firewall to allow RDP traffic outwards ?
[12:46] <albe84tr> erusul
[12:46] <Lucifel> unop I think now I just need to figure what to feed iptables to get this machine to forward to the remote desktop
[12:46] <albe84tr> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <BrendanM> albe84tr, that sounds like it's a permissions error. Are you using sudo or gksudo
[12:47] <erUSUL> albe84tr: whay are you trying the hard way instead of using the update manager??
[12:47] <erUSUL> why*
[12:47] <unop> albe84tr,  ok, now change sources.list to this http://pastebin.ca/348620
[12:47] <BrendanM> erUSUL, he's on 5.10, isn't the update manager only for 6.06->6.10
[12:48] <unop> albe84tr,  once done, save the file and run this command - sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:48] <erUSUL> BrendanM: according to the oficial docs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades no it isn't
[12:48] <mackinac> doesn't the edgy alt install cd have option to install from hdd image?
[12:49] <albe84tr> there is but it is not working from there
[12:49] <stinger_au> yo
[12:49] <albe84tr> 2 errors occured
[12:49] <albe84tr> and both of that are bug...
[12:49] <mackinac> (that dapper had)
[12:49] <demodog> can anyone tell me syntax for sending message with smbclient to other user?
[12:50] <unop> Lucifel,  there also appears to be slight syntax errors with the iptables command -- sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --to 10.0.0.14 --dport 3389 -j DNAT  (i think, not verified)
[12:50] <unop> !linpopup
[12:50] <ubotu> linpopup: X Window System port of Winpopup, running over Samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-8 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 332 kB
[12:50] <unop> demodog,  ^^
[12:50] <Lucifel> unop yeah the iptables entry is where I'm stumped
[12:51] <unop> Lucifel,  do you have iptables already configured?
[12:51] <Lucifel> unop 5900:localhost:5900 gives me a working tunnel for VNC
[12:51] <jean-b> hi
[12:51] <jean-b> i wish to install beryl on kubuntu edgy
[12:51] <stinger_au> anyone here in Australia ? got a good sources file i can rip ?
[12:51] <unop> Lucifel,  i think you might be best off with using !firestarter as the front end to iptables, it'll make your life easier
[12:51] <mackinac> !beryl | jean-b
[12:51] <ubotu> jean-b: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:51] <jean-b> stinger_au: i am in aus
[12:52] <faemir_> jean-b: you have to love ubotu ;)
[12:52] <stinger_au> jean-b, good a good sources list ?
[12:52] <jean-b> thanx mackinac
[12:52] <pihus> argh, bmp isn't avalible via apt-get?
[12:52] <albe84tr> unop how to list there
[12:52] <jean-b> what do you mean by good sources list?
[12:52] <BrendanM> hmm, good call erUSUL. I just installed from a CD so I've never done any of this upgrading stuff.
[12:52] <unop> http://pastebin.ca/348620  jean-b
[12:52] <unop> albe84tr,  to list what?
[12:53] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you should try the update manager instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  it looks to be a one-shot deal
[12:53] <stinger_au> well a complete list - update to date
[12:53] <stinger_au> i just did a fresh install
[12:53] <unop> Lucifel,  but 5900:localhost:5900 means that the client launches a tunnel, connecting it's port 5900 to the server's 5900 .. there's a different flag and combination to use for remote forwarding
[12:53] <tsai> hello all, has anyone tried using beryl on ubuntu edgy?
[12:53] <erUSUL> !source-o-matic
[12:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:53] <stinger_au> arr ok cool
[12:54] <Lucifel> unop that may be the issue as the iptables entry doesn't look as wrong as I first thought
[12:54] <albe84tr> brendan it is not working...  it says I need to dowload PSM to see this page
[12:54] <Lucifel> I just used my VNC tunnel as a reference for setting this up and hoped for the best
[12:54] <unop> Lucifel,  install and use !firestarter its a neat GUI that'll make IPTables really easy
[12:55] <tsai> hello
[12:55] <Lucifel> unop ahh I'll look into that, thank you
[12:55] <BrendanM> what's PSM?
[12:55] <unop> Lucifel,  but you mentioned that the VNC server was on the same machine as the SSH server you connected to right? if thats the case, then you dont want the same SSH command line
[12:55] <vanlinx> hi
[12:55] <albe84tr> unop i dont know what to do in the page you linked me:  http://pastebin.ca/348620
[12:55] <tsai> hi vanlinx have you tried beryl?
[12:56] <vanlinx> nah, im running hoary, i dont know ifs possible
[12:56] <Lucifel> unop yeah that sounds like what I've got wrong
[12:56] <tsai> what's hoary?
[12:56] <vanlinx> ubuntu 5.04
[12:56] <unop> albe84tr,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  -- paste the contents of http://pastebin.ca/348620 into it, save the file, and run this command ..
[12:56] <vanlinx> cause i got this ATI 340 IGP, impossible to set up with EDGY
[12:56] <unop> albe84tr,  sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:57] <tsai> i see, i have tried beryl and everytime it breaks my system on edgy no prob with dapper though
[12:57] <mackinac> tsai, if you need help with beryl, try #ubuntu-effects
[12:57] <tsai> really
[12:57] <mackinac> !beryl
[12:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:57] <vanlinx> oi, does dapper pick up ATI cards immediately?
[12:57] <BrendanM> if you can't open that website, I copied the instructions here: http://pastebin.ca/353492
[12:57] <BrendanM> ^ for albe84tr
[12:58] <tsai> does ubuntu effects do the same as beryl
[12:58] <mackinac> its a help channel like this one
[12:58] <vanlinx> 3ddesktop is like a watered down version, not as pretty >__<
[12:58] <mackinac>  ... /join #ubuntu-effects
[12:58] <erUSUL> tsai: it is only the name of the channel...
[12:59] <Lucifel> unop how would I correct the ssh line to accomodate?
[12:59] <tsai> oh my bad i will go there thanks erUSUL
[12:59] <jarhead756> i am trying to compile sound converter .9.3 from source, but it won't get past ./configure, this pops up checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for gawk... no
[12:59] <mackinac> youre welcom
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for mawk... mawk
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for style of include used by make... none
[12:59] <albe84tr> unop it says that it is not posible to save it
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for gcc... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for cc... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for cl.exe... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:59] <jarhead756> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:59] <erUSUL> jarhead756: stop it, do not paste here...
[01:00] <agreif> which package do I have to install to have the full java 1.4 SDK?
[01:00] <mackinac> !pastebin | jarhead756
[01:00] <ubotu> jarhead756: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:00] <unop> !paste | jarhead756
[01:00] <erUSUL> !pastebin > jarhead756
[01:00] <agreif> which package do I have to install to have the full java 1.4 SDK?
[01:00] <unop> Lucifel,  i have a feeling you need this -- ssh -f -L 3389:10.0.0.14:3389 user@ssh_server
[01:00] <jarhead756> oh, ok, but does anyone know what i am talking about?
[01:00] <erUSUL> jarhead756: sound-converter is on the repos
[01:00] <unop> Lucifel,  can the ubuntu server use the windows machine's remote desktop at the moment (without ssh)??
[01:00] <erUSUL> jarhead756: why bother compiling it?
[01:01] <jarhead756> yes, but not the newest version is it? i need the newest, the one that uses gstreamer 1 instead of .8
[01:01] <albe84tr> unop it says that it is not posible to save it
[01:01] <unop> !build-essential | jarhead756 , you need a C compiler :)
[01:01] <ubotu> jarhead756 , you need a C compiler :): Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:01] <unop> albe84tr,  did you use gksudo to launch gedit???
[01:01] <Lucifel> unop I haven't tested from the Ubuntu machine specifically but remote desktop to the intended target works from Mac OS X on local LAN
[01:02] <unop> Lucifel,  why not try ssh forwarding now without IPTables running?
[01:03] <mamzers555> i get this error with wine: wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\--winver.exe"
[01:03] <mamzers555> can somebody help me with this
[01:03] <mamzers555> i installed it from the repos
[01:03] <albe84tr> I used the terminal...
[01:03] <unop> mamzers555,  whats the ocmmand you are using there?
[01:03] <lancerr> Is it possible to have a different desktop background for each virtual desktop? I don't think it is (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149130), but things may have changed since then (eg. in Beryl). Thanks
[01:03] <Lucifel> unop I was after a tunneled remote desktop session for when I have to work on the Windoze machine from shady networks
[01:03] <vanlinx> hey, whats the channel for ATI ubuntu specific installations if there is one
[01:03] <mamzers555> unop; wine --winver.exe winxp xxx.exe
[01:03] <unop> albe84tr,  use this command _exactly_ -- gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <erUSUL> !ati | vanlinx
[01:03] <ubotu> vanlinx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:03] <BrendanM> albe84tr, in the terminal, did you use the gksudo command?
[01:04] <vanlinx> ok kool
[01:04] <BrendanM> albe84tr, what command did you enter to launch gedit
[01:04] <frogzoo> !appdb | mamzers555
[01:04] <ubotu> mamzers555: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:04] <Lucifel> unop ssh forwarding works for VNC from Mac OS X on external network to the Ubuntu machine
[01:04] <unop> mamzers555,  well obviously -- is --winver.exe a command even -- it should be wine winver.exe winxp xxx.exe -- but i doubt that command will work
[01:04] <chrisjw_> hi can someone post me that ubuntu FAQ website
[01:04] <chrisjw_> it was really interesting
[01:04] <frogzoo> mamzers555: also, you're best off using the budgetdedicated repo
[01:04] <frogzoo> !wine | mamzers555
[01:04] <ubotu> mamzers555: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:05] <Lucifel> unop oh NM misread your last msg, checking that now
[01:05] <unop> Lucifel,  I understand exactly what you are doing :) what i mean is turn IPTables off and try that ssh command i gave you there from your mac to the ssh server on ubuntu
[01:06] <antonisgr> hi. I have low transfer speeds on gaim messenger.Is there any way to solve it?
[01:06] <coNP> anyone using mediawiki on edgy? it complains that tsearch2 is not installed, however I installed the postgresql-8.1-contrib package (and tsearch2 seems to be part of it)
[01:06] <albe84tr> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <unop> albe84tr,  forget this approach, it's just not working for you
[01:07] <unop> !upgrade | albe84tr follow this instead
[01:07] <ubotu> albe84tr follow this instead: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:09] <albe84tr> ubotu, i can not bacause it says I have to download personal security manager first
[01:10] <mamzers555> how can i found out, which charset my ubuntu has?
[01:10] <Fedman> I have problems playing .mov files. I've installed all the codecs from automatix and still get the no stream error in mplayer
[01:10] <erUSUL> mamzers555: utf8
[01:11] <Fedman> any ideas what I can be doing wrong
[01:12] <erUSUL> Fedman: automatix is a black box for most of us... we can not know what it has done wrong...
[01:12] <mackinac> using automatix :p
[01:12] <albe84tr> unop, 1 I write in the terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 2 i copy in the window that apears (sourse.list) the text that is in the link you gave me. 3 I write that comand. What is wrong???
[01:13] <BrendanM> Anyone know what this personal security manager it's asking for is about?
[01:13] <BrendanM> I've never heard of that
[01:13] <mamzers555> erUSUL; thank you, do you also know how to find out which charset my windows has?
[01:13] <jarhead756> configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:13] <erUSUL> mamzers555: no, sorry :(
[01:13] <jarhead756> does this mean i need something else?
[01:13] <mamzers555> ok, thanks
[01:14] <ahave> i am having trouble with some apps and their sound, could someone help me diagnose this?
[01:14] <erUSUL> jarhead756: you need  XML::Parser perl module
[01:14] <Fedman> erUSUL: I've tried installing all the codecs from the repositories before using automatix including the bad and ugly ones
[01:14] <jarhead756> where can i find that erusul?
[01:14] <mackinac> !anyone
[01:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:14] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you can't open that website in Firefox? Is that the problem?
[01:14] <erUSUL> ubotu tell ahave about sound | ahave see priv msg from ubotu
[01:14] <erUSUL> Fedman: for mov files you need w32codecs afaik
[01:15] <BrendanM> !patronizing
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patronizing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <BrendanM> Guess not.
[01:15] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Fedman about w32codecs | Fedman see priv msg from ubotu
[01:15] <albe84tr> brendan no i can open it in mozilla...
[01:15] <erUSUL> jarhead756: with synaptic or apt-cache search
[01:15] <vanlinx>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY fullysick
[01:15] <mamzers555> somebody get photoshop cs2 running on linux with wine?
[01:15] <BrendanM> albe84tr, ok so just read it in mozilla
[01:15] <albe84tr> brendanM, I cant open it in mozilla...
[01:16] <erUSUL> vanlinx: XD
[01:16] <Fedman> erSUL: thx mate much apretiated :)
[01:16] <BrendanM> albe84tr, neither mozilla nor firefox will open it?
[01:16] <erUSUL> Fedman: no problem
[01:16] <jarhead756> erusul, so it starts with xml, right?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> vanlinx: "Pizza" Fan? ;D
[01:16] <erUSUL> jarhead756: most likely with perl-
[01:16] <albe84tr> no I cant open in in mozilla i dont have firefox anymore and I can not dowload opera
[01:16] <Grogs> Am I going to have a lot of problems installing Ubuntu on a system using the Asus P5B?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> !hardware | Grogs
[01:16] <ubotu> Grogs: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:17] <Grogs> Thanks. :)
[01:17] <Tomcat_> Grogs: Try with the LiveCD first, but I doubt you'll have problems.
[01:18] <Grogs> Alright, I just read on the forums and there was mention of problems with drivers for CD drives etc. :)
[01:18] <erUSUL> albe84tr: try epiphany web browser
[01:18] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know how to compile H.264 support into ffmpeg?  I need it for podencode
[01:18] <jarhead756> erUSUL, this would be it wouldn't it? libxml-parser-perl
[01:19] <albe84tr> erUSUL, it is not possible to dowload it from application manager... I try to find it online
[01:19] <erUSUL> jarhead756: yes it could be...
[01:19] <albe84tr> but i have just the impression taht upgrading the system everything would work...
[01:20] <erUSUL> albe84tr: your systems seems to be falling appart nothing works... :(
[01:20] <jarhead756> in compiling, after ./configure, is it make, or ./make
[01:21] <sebrock|a> I need some help, just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and X wont start, I do hear the loginsound etc tho. Any tips?
[01:21] <ahave> erUSUL, the link you gave me doesnt seem to be quite what i am looking for...
[01:21] <ahave> erUSUL, sound works with _some_ apps. but not all
[01:21] <erUSUL> ahave: what apps do work?
[01:21] <ahave> erUSUL, i tried a diff liveCD of diff distro and the sound works fine
[01:21] <albe84tr> but i have just the impression taht upgrading the system everything would work...
[01:22] <albe84tr> Il pacchetto epiphany-browser non ha versioni disponibili, ma .
[01:22] <albe84tr> Questo significa che il pacchetto  diventato obsoleto on disponibile all'interno da un'altra sorgente
[01:22] <albe84tr> E: Il pacchetto epiphany-browser non ha candidati da installare
[01:22] <ahave> erUSUL, firefox works and i tried a few games and they worked also
[01:22] <albe84tr> sorry
[01:22] <ahave> erUSUL, but xchat has no sounds and kismet has no sounds
[01:22] <sebrock|a> was the same with the LiveCD, i have no clue
[01:23] <vanlinx> hey, why cant i talk to anyone here? do i need to register or something?
[01:23] <albe84tr> erUSUL I have tryed to install it from terminal: it says that there is no versin aviable
[01:23] <erUSUL> albe84tr: maybe a fresh install would be better (if you can backup your files)
[01:23] <albe84tr> erUSUL
[01:24] <sebrock|a> hmmm anyone?
[01:24] <erUSUL> vanlinx: yes, you have to be registerd to pm (and ask first)
[01:25] <erUSUL> sebrock|a: try booting in recovery mode and reconfigure X try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:25] <carlhume> Okay, I have to ask - why is the mysql-server-4.1 deb dependent on postfix?
[01:25] <frogzoo_> carlhume: mail alerts, unfortunately
[01:26] <sebrock|a> erUSUL, maybe I should tell you more, after the bootscreen when X should start, the marker blinks a few times and then freezes
[01:26] <carlhume> frogzoo, hrm - I cancelled out of the postfix config, and apt appears to just be haning...
[01:26] <albe84tr> erUSUL this is the second time I install ubuntu 5.10... same problems... know i would like to upgrade to 6.06/6.10 BUT there is some problem... unop was explaining me how to do but then he stoped:
[01:26] <troughton> i am wanting to find out about composit managers can anyone help ?
[01:26] <CheshireViking> vanlinx, you put in a /msg NICKSERV info in the channel before, that'd suggest you are registered on freenode
[01:26] <albe84tr> I was doing as follow:
[01:26] <carlhume> frogzoo_, hrm - I cancelled out of the postfix config, and apt appears to just be haning...
[01:26] <erUSUL> ahave: maybe kismet (being qt iirc needs arts running)
[01:26] <albe84tr> unop, 1 I write in the terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 2 i copy in the window that apears (sourse.list) the text that is in the link you gave me. 3 I write that comand. What is wrong???
[01:26] <frogzoo_> carlhume: start over maybe
[01:26] <carlhume> frogzoo_, I was afraid you'd say that :)
[01:27] <mamzers555> i have problem with recode, if i enter recode ucs-2..utf-8 xxx.reg then i get an error
[01:27] <frogzoo_> carlhume: just the mysql install, not all over
[01:27] <ahave> erUSUL, what do you mean by qt iirc and arts?
[01:27] <erUSUL> albe84tr: and nothing happens when you issue the aptitude comands?
[01:27] <ahave> erUSUL, link me?
[01:27] <BrendanM> albe84tr, what's the matter with doing a clean install? Can you just download/burn the install CD?
[01:27] <Jowi> carlhume, it isn't for me. mailx is there but not postfix
[01:27] <mamzers555> somebody have an idea about that?
[01:27] <Fedman> erSUL: I installed em and I still can't play mov files :(
[01:27] <BrendanM> albe84tr, it really seems like you're having a lot of trouble with the upgrade
[01:27] <carlhume> frogzoo_, No worries - it wouldn't have been a smiley afterwords if I thought I'd be reinstalling everything
[01:27] <erUSUL> ahave: arts is a sound server like esd some apps need one to be running kde uses arts and gnome esd
[01:27] <sebrock|a> erUSUL is this saying anything to you, its from .xsession-errors: http://www.pastebin.ca/353514
[01:27] <albe84tr> maybe it will be easier to find the 6.06/6.10 version cd in
[01:28] <carlhume> Jowi, Really?   hmmmm
[01:28] <albe84tr> Istanbul
[01:28] <ahave> erUSUL, ah
[01:28] <Jowi> carlhume, "apt-cache depends mysql-server-4.1" show only mailx (edgy)
[01:28] <erUSUL> Fedman: it works for me... i do not know what can be wrong...
[01:28] <jekson_> this is my problem
[01:28] <troughton> can anyone help me with composit manigers and ubuntu eye candy ?
[01:28] <ahave> erUSUL, can i load a KDE environment ontop/next to my ubuntu w/ gnome?
[01:29] <ahave> erUSUL, or possibly switch to KDE without loosing all my settings
[01:29] <albe84tr> erusul. this happened: GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:29] <albe84tr> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:29] <carlhume> Jowi, interesting - I just dove into a apt-get install mysql-server-4.1, and low and behold - postfix!
[01:29] <erUSUL> ahave: not wise, maybe tyou can configure kismet to use alsa directly and all other apps that doesn't work
[01:30] <jekson_> i try to install cedega CVS i install the dependances but whe I i try to launch WineCVS script it turn me this problem
[01:30] <jekson_> test: 43: ==: unexpected operator
[01:30] <jekson_> WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:30] <albe84tr> brendanM where to download the installCD?
[01:30] <Jowi> carlhume, are you using the ubuntu repos?
[01:30] <ahave> erUSUL, what if i just switch to KDE? would that require a new install?
[01:30] <erUSUL> albe84tr: use nano instead of gedit in a terminal
[01:30] <albe84tr> ok
[01:30] <carlhume> Jowi, universe, multiverse, restricted
[01:31] <carlhume> Jowi, using the Canadian mirrors though
[01:31] <Fedman> erUSUL: uh sorry I'm dumb it's working now :)
[01:31] <carlhume> Jowi, if that makes a difference...
[01:31] <erUSUL> ahave: no, install kubuntu-desktop but it seems like no worth the effort just for hearing kismet
[01:31] <erUSUL> Fedman: no problem
[01:31] <Jowi> carlhume, Filename: pool/universe/m/mysql-dfsg-4.1/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb  <-- that's the one?
[01:31] <jekson_> any idea for my problem look up
[01:32] <ahave> erUSUL, i agree. but i wouldnt mind seeing the difference in the two.
[01:32] <erUSUL> ahave: as i said install kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <ahave> erUSUL, alright. thank you
[01:33] <carlhume> Jowi, Not sure, to be honest - how do I find out?
[01:33] <albe84tr> erUSUL and then?
[01:33] <Jowi> carlhume, apt-cache show mysql-server-4.1 | grep name
[01:34] <carlhume> Jowi, thanks
[01:34] <erUSUL> albe84tr: change breezy to dapper in all lines
[01:34] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you can download them here: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:34] <carlhume> Jowi, carl@home:~$ apt-cache show mysql-server-4.1 | grep name
[01:34] <carlhume> Filename: pool/universe/m/mysql-dfsg-4.1/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[01:36] <Jowi> carlhume, same. why do we have different dependencies? it isn't another package you're installing that demands it?
[01:36] <albe84tr> erUSUL no line... the page it is empty
[01:36] <carlhume> Jowi, I just typed "sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1" ...
[01:37] <carlhume> Jowi, Thanks for your help - the babies are calling me
[01:37] <Jowi> carlhume_afk, np
[01:37] <troughton> i am wanting to find out about xgl and alglx and composit manages can anyone help ?
[01:38] <erUSUL> albe84tr: have you done 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'  ??
[01:38] <cizra> Hello there
[01:38] <albe84tr> erUSUL.. sure..
[01:38] <cizra> I've got a VERYstrange problem.
[01:38] <erUSUL> !beryl > troughton
[01:38] <cizra> When Iwrite a small test program, GCCcomplains that bar.cpp:5: error: stray \342 in program
[01:38] <cizra> Ibet it's a codepage issue.
[01:38] <erUSUL> albe84tr: and it's empty ??
[01:39] <cizra> $LANGand $LC_ALLare both et_EE.utf8
[01:39] <cizra> file bar.cpp says bar.cpp: UTF-8 Unicode C program text
[01:39] <erUSUL> albe84tr: no wonder nothing worked...
[01:39] <cizra> Any ideas?
[01:39] <darweth> I have a simple problem.  When I apt-get install, it no longer asks me Y/N before installing something.  How can I turn Y/N back on?
[01:39] <albe84tr> erUSUL yes   GNU nano 1.3.8        File: '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:39] <albe84tr>                                  [ Nuovo file ] 
[01:39] <albe84tr> ^G Guida     ^O Salva     ^R Inserisci ^Y Pag Prec. ^K Taglia    ^C Posizione
[01:39] <albe84tr> ^X Esci      ^J Giustifica^W Cerca     ^V Pag Succ. ^U Incolla   ^T Ortografia
[01:39] <darweth> (It does ask Y/N before removing).
[01:40] <troughton> when i try that erUSUL i lose my graphics all together
[01:40] <albe84tr> erUSUL yes it is empty
[01:40] <cizra> darweth: When you apt-get one package, it doesn't ask, IIRC. When apt-getting a package that depends on a bunch of others, it should ask.
[01:40] <erUSUL> troughton: go to the specific irc channel mentioned in the ubotu msg
[01:40] <darweth> Ah.  I see.
[01:41] <troughton> thanks
[01:41] <darweth> I suppose that would explain not asking over xchat-systray.
[01:41] <erUSUL> albe84tr: you need to regenerate it or copy one hold on
[01:41] <Ins|de> hi there, i've a little problem with sound, i cannot hear anything, i've unmuted all channels, all modules are loaded, but it stills completely mute, can anyone help me? thanks
[01:41] <Jowi> darweth, normally, if it is only one package without dependencies it will not ask. if it is a package that need to install dependencies in order for it to work it will ask
[01:41] <darweth> Okay, I did not know that. :)  Thank you.
[01:41] <IdleOne> Ins|de, speakers plugged in?
[01:41] <albe84tr> erUSUL regenerate=write ?
[01:41] <Ins|de> IdleOne, yes
[01:42] <IdleOne> !sound | Ins|de
[01:42] <ubotu> Ins|de: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:42] <albe84tr> erUSUL I can write it again letter by letter
[01:42] <grimsan> what is a good firewall program for ubuntu ?
[01:42] <Ins|de> IdleOne, thanks, let me check
[01:43] <IdleOne> grimsan, sudo aptitude install firestarter
[01:43] <IdleOne> !info firestarter
[01:43] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[01:43] <erUSUL> albe84tr: wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5555/plain/ this will dl a index.html that you can rename as sources.list and use
[01:44] <grimsan> !info guarddog
[01:44] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[01:44] <grimsan> which is best?
[01:44] <IdleOne> grimsan, or guardog
[01:44] <grimsan> im a complete newb
[01:44] <IdleOne> !best | grimsan
[01:44] <ubotu> grimsan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:44] <jekson_>  i try to install cedega CVS i install the dependances but whe I i try to launch WineCVS script it turn me this problem
[01:44] <jekson_>  test: 43: ==: unexpected operator
 WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:44] <Aaron_Mason> !info ffmpeg
[01:44] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[01:44] <grimsan> so i need something easy
[01:45] <grimsan> ok IdleOne , im a newb, so what do u recomend
[01:45] <IdleOne> grimsan, try them both see what works for you... sudo aptitude install firestarter ( if you dont like it ) sudo aptitude remove firtestarter
[01:46] <erUSUL> albe84tr: once you replaced the sources.list use the aptitude comands unop said and cross your fingers (or use: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) DO NOT MISS the  DIST part of the command
[01:46] <IdleOne> grimsan, I have tried firestarter have not used guarddog
[01:46] <albe84tr> erUSUL but it is not possible to write there in the page that I open writing sudo nano ... thing...
[01:47] <grimsan> IdleOne , it doesnt get firestarter
[01:47] <IdleOne> grimsan, have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[01:47] <grimsan> yepp
[01:47] <IdleOne> you sure
[01:47] <grimsan> whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude
[01:47] <grimsan> yes im sure
[01:48] <erUSUL> albe84tr: use sudo for example 'sudo cp -i index.html /etc/apt/sources.list' (answer yes)
[01:48] <IdleOne> ok go to System>Administration>Synaptic package Manager and search for it there
[01:48] <Jowi> grimsan, (don't forget to apt-get update or reload in synaptic)
[01:48] <grimsan> i did
[01:48] <grimsan> this is weird man :D
[01:49] <IdleOne> grimsan, aptitude seems to track dependencies a little better for me at least.. apt-get sometimes doesnt remove all the depends after I decide I dont like a certain app
[01:49] <erUSUL> albe84tr: cp copies files
[01:49] <maaaani^weg> is it possible to use Smart Package Manager with kubuntu?
[01:49] <sebrock|a> if I only could get the ath0 to work then installing the nvidia would solve my problem I think
[01:50] <erUSUL> albe84tr: i have to go away, sorry...
[01:50] <sebrock|a> Fatal server error:
[01:50] <sebrock|a> no screens
[01:50] <sebrock|a> thats what I get when starting X
[01:50] <IdleOne> grimsan, if you need more help ask away in channel here. /me brb
[01:50] <albe84tr> erUSUL last thing!
[01:51] <erUSUL> albe84tr: ?
[01:51] <albe84tr> erUSUL, what i have to write after cp:
[01:51] <albe84tr> ?
[01:52] <erUSUL> albe84tr: 'sudo cp -i index.html /etc/apt/sources.list' you have to be in the dir you dl the index.html file with wget
[01:52] <erUSUL> albe84tr: Ciao!!
[01:52] <sebrock|a> how the hell do I get the network to run??
[01:52] <sebrock|a> I cant get it up by iwconfig
[01:52] <albe84tr> erUSUL: dl? wget?
[01:52] <sebrock|a> "no such device"
[01:52] <frogzoo> !wifi | sebrock|a
[01:52] <ubotu> sebrock|a: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:53] <albe84tr> erUSUL dont go!!!!!! :-))
[01:53] <lasse_> sebrock|a, try sudo ifconfig  and see what network interfaces is up a nd running?
[01:53] <albe84tr> erUSUL: no te ne andare... ti prego :-)))))))))))99+
[01:53] <albe84tr> erUSUL: dl? wget?
[01:53] <sebrock|a> lasse_ I did
[01:54] <sebrock|a> Its just a bunch of loopbacks
[01:54] <Yodude> hey can someone help me with beryl? no one is answering me at the #ubuntu-effects channel
[01:54] <lasse_> sebrock|a, and what is listed?
[01:54] <sebrock|a> eth0 ath0
[01:54] <sebrock|a> which is correct
[01:54] <Yodude> unop: lol can you help me with beryl plz
[01:54] <sebrock|a> but when I try to start them, I get "no such devvice"
[01:54] <lasse_> sebrock|a, ath0 is your wifi?
[01:55] <sebrock|a> yeah
[01:55] <sebrock|a> lasse_ funny thing is that during install it was detected and asked for WEP code and said it was successfull
[01:55] <lasse_> sebrock|a, you use wep?
[01:56] <Night_Owl> Holy moley
[01:56] <Yodude> help please!!!
[01:56] <Night_Owl> There's a lot of people in here :)
[01:56] <IdleOne> Yodude, there is #beryl also you can ask in
[01:56] <lasse_> sebrock|a, do you use wep on your wireless network?
[01:56] <sebrock|a> yes
[01:56] <lasse_> sebrock|a, do you know if it is ascii or hexidecimal?
[01:57] <sebrock|a> it was all configured good in install, its hex
[01:57] <lasse_> sebrock|a, try sudo iwconfig ath0 essid <yournetworkhere> key <yourweppassword>
[01:58] <sebrock|a> did
[01:58] <lasse_> sebrock|a, you sure the syntax is right?
[01:58] <sebrock|a> it complains about no such device
[01:58] <suguru_> I tried to pastin I did a replace of
[01:58] <suguru_> v   pythonPackages very many
[01:58] <suguru_> with
[01:58] <suguru_> #  v   pythonPackages very many
[01:58] <suguru_> leaving a long list of
[01:58] <suguru_> p  pythonPackages very many
[01:58] <sebrock|a> I really dont understand that, as everyhting was configured during install
[01:58] <suguru_> and that was unwieldly so I aborted as you can see below
[01:58] <wirelexh> Hi
[01:58] <suguru_> then I deleated everything except
[01:58] <suguru_> p   python 2.5 and another package
[01:58] <suguru_> which was only 16MB to dl but I could not even
[01:58] <suguru_> get this.
[01:58] <suguru_> I have flown across 12 time zones and would really like
[01:58] <suguru_> to start a download to take back to the Indonesian
[01:58] <suguru_> disaster zone to help others learn python.
[01:59] <suguru_> We are charged for each byte dl in Indonesia if we
[01:59] <suguru_> are even lucky to be able to dl.  You can't most of
[01:59] <suguru_> the time in the disaster area.
[01:59] <suguru_> Will someone please help me?
[01:59] <wirelexh> please where are spanish server for xchat?
[01:59] <suguru_> Why is only downloading python so slow on my
[01:59] <suguru_> high-speed connection after hours of trials?
[01:59] <sebrock|a> damn this is bugging me out
[01:59] <suguru_>  and the results but I got a message that I appeared to be spamming.  I was asked to enable javascript.  But I want to stay secure.
[01:59] <lxsu> ngon svensk?
[01:59] <lasse_> lxsu, this is not a swedish channel
[01:59] <Jowi> lxsu, yeah, but try #ubuntu-se
[01:59] <wirelexh> please where are spanish server for xchat?
[01:59] <CrakeHunter> hello, how can i control the speed of my case fan?
[02:00] <Jowi> lxsu, only English speaking in here
[02:00] <lxsu> ook.... can I find some swedish channel for ubuntu users?
[02:00] <Jowi> lxsu, "/join #ubuntu-se"
[02:00] <jrib> suguru_: why are you downloading python?  It's included in ubuntu
[02:00] <lasse_> #ubuntu-se
[02:00] <lxsu> tnx
[02:00] <wirelexh> #ubuntu-se o #ubuntu-es it's a channel or server?
[02:01] <Jowi> wirelexh, a channel on this server
[02:01] <Jowi> s/server/network
[02:01] <suguru_> Where is version 2.5? How can I tell what is included and what is not.  I only got 2.4 in Edgy.
[02:01] <Night_Owl> I'm looking for networking help.. Running on an XP box atm, other box is Ubuntu 6.10, looking to network the two together so I can share files and printers.  Do I need Samba (it looks like it would be a major headache to set up for a new user :/)
[02:01] <jrib> suguru_: only 2.4 is included, 2.5 has to be downloaded
[02:02] <lasse_> Night_Owl, yuo need samba
[02:02] <IdleOne> wirelexh, click on Xchat ( top left ) and then network list in there you will find a list of all the servers
[02:02] <samuel__> weeg234g235
[02:02] <wirelexh> Jowi, do you know any spanish server, please?
[02:02] <frogzoo> Night_Owl: samba is the way to go
[02:02] <frogzoo> !samba | Night_Owl
[02:02] <ubotu> Night_Owl: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:02] <Jowi> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:02] <wirelexh> ubotu gracias
[02:02] <jrib> suguru_: are you using a local mirror?
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gracias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <samuel__> wre2r5we56r65rt76567k789989
[02:03] <suguru_> I did not do anything special.  I am near LAX in Los Angeles.
[02:03] <yabba> hello, i am trying to install ubuntu linux dapper drake. my bios accepts my S-ATA HDD (I have RAID switched OFF) but when the ubuntu installer checks for HDD it says it doesn't find any partitionable media
[02:03] <ahave> can anyone help me with soundplay?
[02:03] <lasse_> Night_Owl, if you want to set up insecure, but easy samba, this is the way to go http://my.opera.com/Mr%20Green/blog/show.dml/227095
[02:04] <posingaspopular> yabba: are you using a live cd?
[02:04] <yabba> yes
[02:04] <posingaspopular> can you try a different one?
[02:04] <yabba> i also tried with an earlier version which was non-live
[02:04] <posingaspopular> hmmm
[02:05] <posingaspopular> ive never heard of this having.
[02:05] <Night_Owl> At this point, easy will do plenty :) I'm not *as* concerned about security with the Linux box, and my XP machines have firewalls installed already (note - not Windows Firewall) ;)
[02:05] <posingaspopular> what exactly is the error you get?
[02:05] <Night_Owl> At this point I just want simple and stable :)
[02:05] <yabba> from the live cd the installer just crashes, and the earlier version's installation process gives me "no partitionable media found"
[02:06] <yabba> it says it doesnt find any media to create a partition on, which is strange cause my BIOS has got the S-ATA
[02:06] <yabba> im a big helpless, could it have to do with the RAID?
[02:06] <lasse_> Night_Owl, thats good. follow the link then, but be aware that you might compromise information you might want to keep secure if you go for this solution
[02:06] <yabba> bit*
[02:06] <posingaspopular> what would happen if you turned RAID on. i assume that you're booting from the live cd and trying to install ubunt on your SATA?
[02:06] <Hub441> hi!
[02:07] <Night_Owl> As in, worrying about it getting over the Internet?
[02:07] <suguru_> unop, told me how to dl a list of python programs then edit the list to get what I wanted then say aptitude install cat to install list.  Can anybody help me do what he suggested?
[02:07] <yabba> yes exactly posingaspopular . if i turn the RAID in my bios on it doesnt find the HDD anymore
[02:07] <Hub441> i finally did it, and my laptop boots now the xubuntu-cd over PXE
[02:07] <frogzoo> Hub441: neat trick
[02:07] <Hub441> last problem: gdm won't start due to wrong owdnerships in /var/lib/gdm
[02:07] <Night_Owl> I insist on wired, not wireless ;)
[02:07] <posingaspopular> wow thats strange, ive never heard of that
[02:07] <yabba> yes i dont get it either
[02:07] <Hub441> frogzoo: jupp, needed a lot of trying to make it work
[02:08] <yabba> ok ill continue googling thx anyway
[02:08] <lasse_> Night_Owl, if its wired and not wireless your 95% more secure
[02:08] <frogzoo> Hub441: drwxrwx--T 2 root gdm 1024 2007-02-13 23:47 /var/lib/gdm/
[02:08] <posingaspopular> is there anyone in here wo can help out with this SATA/install problem? I'm no good with SATA
[02:08] <Hub441> so my question: what's the password for the CD?
[02:08] <Hub441> frogzoo: can't login 'cause i don't know the root-pw for the liveCD
[02:09] <frogzoo> Hub441: blank passwd ?
[02:09] <yabba> SATA HDD accepted in BIOS but ubuntu installer doesnt find it
[02:09] <lasse_> Hub441, you should be able to log in as root by typing sudo -i    . It shouldnt ask you for a password
[02:09] <Night_Owl> Aye, I agree. They pretty much have to be physically connected to get anywhere :)
[02:09] <yabba> could it be my BIOS version?
[02:09] <lasse_> Night_Owl, did you find the link useful?
[02:09] <frogzoo> Hub441: sudo -i should just pop you a shell straight up
[02:10] <ahave> what is ubuntu's default sound player? and where is it located?
[02:10] <Hub441> GDM didn't start !
[02:10] <Night_Owl> Yeah
[02:10] <posingaspopular> it could be bios, or the installer
[02:10] <frogzoo> ahave: alsa on edgy
[02:10] <posingaspopular> or a combination of the two
[02:10] <Night_Owl> Do I have to install Samba on both machines?
[02:10] <Hub441> no GUI at all,, only console
[02:10] <grimsan> thx IdleOne , firestarter was great
[02:10] <ahave> frogzoo, what is edgy?
[02:10] <Anubis> hey all
[02:10] <frogzoo> ahave: edgy is latest release
[02:10] <lasse_> Night_Owl, no, windows has its smb protocol installed
[02:10] <mackinac> Question: fresh Edgy install :: a fat32 partition from previous install, not reformatted :: the fat32's vol label i gave it at install was "data(fat)" - in some places nautilus gives it the correct name, but in other places, like the drive icon on desktop or in nautilus location bar, it's labeled with weird characters: "ht, "");    }" ..... any idea why?
[02:10] <frogzoo> Hub441: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:10] <ahave> frogzoo, ah, ok :)
[02:11] <Night_Owl> ok.. gimme a few min.. gotta hop onto the Ubuntu box and find Samba :)
[02:11] <Hub441> frogzoo: LOL how to start without beeing logged in?
[02:11] <ahave> frogzoo, so if i have an app that is asking (in the config file) for the location of the sound player... i should enter what "whereis alsa" tells me?
[02:11] <ptrg> can't get hardware acceleration working on my x300 i have the fglrx driver installed from ati. i have followed several tutorials, with no luck. any secret magic tricks out there?
[02:11] <frogzoo> Hub441: you can't ctrl alt f1 & get a terminal ?
[02:12] <Hub441> frogzoo: i've only got a command-line
[02:12] <lasse_> Night_Owl, to restart samba after you have configure /etc/samba/smb.conf you reload it with a  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:12] <Hub441> frogzoo: and the command-line asks me for login
[02:12] <frogzoo> Hub441: cool, so 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[02:12] <frogzoo> Hub441: argh...
[02:12] <Hub441> UAR!
[02:12] <lasse_> ptrg, buy nvidia :D
[02:13] <lasse_> Hub441, isnt "ubuntu" the default login name on live-cds? i think it is also on xubuntu
[02:13] <lasse_> Hub441, try   user   ubuntu   and password  <blank>
[02:14] <Anubis> i hope this does not sound like a stupid question, but i have a nvidia chipset on one of my desktops, do I also have to get a nvida card to get all of the beryl effects going?
[02:14] <Hub441> lasse_: nope blank password won't work
[02:14] <zyth> this is odd.  Vista is on hd(0,0) but it won't boot in grub.  The screen just flashes and it comes back to the grub menu.  Ubuntu boots fine though. (I have vista on hd0 and ubuntu on hd1, reinstalled grub after installing vista) - anyone got any suggestions for me?
[02:15] <Chicory> Aaah!
[02:15] <ahave> frogzoo, thank you!! i got one application working :D
[02:15] <Chicory> Nothing like a snow day to work with Linux.  :D
[02:15] <lasse_> zyth,  http://digg.com/software/HowTo_dual-boot_Windows_XP_and_Windows_Vista_-_Windows_Vista_Beta:_
[02:15] <lasse_> zyth, sorry wrong link
[02:15] <zyth> oh
[02:15] <CrakeHunter> how do i change discs on cedega while installing a more-than-one-cd-rom-game? i cannot open my dvd-rom
[02:16] <Shaffox> Power the computer: what does this mean ?
[02:16] <mackinac> guess i should try getting updates first
[02:16] <cafuego_> zyth: remove vista - problem solved
[02:16] <zyth> cafuego, yes, so freaking helpful.  Either be constructive or stfu.
[02:17] <Chicory> Hooray!
[02:17] <cafuego_> Hey, you wanted suggestions.
[02:17] <posingaspopular> cafuego: agreed :)
[02:17] <zyth> :P
[02:17] <Chicory> Unop, if you're on here under a different handle, THANK YOU.
[02:17] <Chicory> Fglrx works brilliantly now!
[02:17] <frogzoo> zyth: you do realise grub calls to the doze bootloader which loads xp ?
[02:17] <chrisjw_> is there any dvd ripping software for ubuntu
[02:17] <sebrock|a> lasse_ some progress, I got the eth0 to talk to the router
[02:18] <cafuego_> chrisjw_: Yup, dvd::rip
[02:18] <frogzoo> chrisjw_: k3b
[02:18] <sebrock|a> lasse_ but it should get a DHCP adress, and it is not
[02:18] <zyth> frogzoo, it won't boot vista.  worked fine when XP was on that drive, but now that vista is there it just flashes and goes back to the grub menu
[02:18] <sebrock|a> so I cant get online
[02:18] <frogzoo> zyth: spooky
[02:18] <Chicory> !beryl
[02:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:18] <lasse_> sebrock|a, try  sudo ifdown eth0     and   sudo ifup eth0   and see what happens
[02:18] <frogzoo> zyth: Redmond fights back!
[02:19] <mackinac> zyth, have you tried booting directly to the win drive via bios options?
[02:19] <zyth> lol
[02:19] <cafuego_> Without wanting to incur futher STFUs, how is vista not booting an Ubuntu problem?
[02:19] <oxigen> gentoo have command 'revdep-rebuild' for updating libs, what is command in ubuntu for this?
[02:19] <sebrock|a> lasse_ ok, I have to boot into win all the time, so I cant do it just like that
[02:19] <Chicory> Oh, guys, what's the verdict on Vista's "BitLocker" NTFS protocol?
[02:19] <zyth> mackinac, grub is on the windows drive.  grub is in the mbr on hd0, and vista is on the rest.  Ubuntu is on hd1
[02:19] <Chicory> Last I heard it was a foil to other OS'es accessing the partition.
[02:19] <mackinac> ahh
[02:19] <cafuego_> oxigen: There isn't one; not needed.
[02:19] <lolman> Chicory: pile of dog turd
[02:19] <Chicory> Has someone successfully reverse-engineered it yet?
[02:19] <sebrock|a> I did all that aswell lasse_, how do I assign an DHCP adress to the card?
[02:19] <lasse_> sebrock|a, hold on
[02:20] <cafuego_> oxigen: There is 'apt-get build-dep <packagename>' to pull in buoild depends.
[02:20] <suguru_> noop or jrib, I was told to use pastin.  Which I did but no one has responded to my pastin.  What am I suppossed to do?
[02:20] <Chicory> lolman: To our advantage or disadvatage?  XD
[02:20] <jrib> suguru_: you haven't told us the url to your paste
[02:20] <lolman> Chicory: depends if you use it XD
[02:20] <sebrock|a> lasse_ this maybe: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:20] <mackinac> i would redo the mbr on the hd0 and put grub on hd1
[02:20] <Chicory> Eh, I don't know if I'm ever upgrading to Vista.
[02:20] <oxigen> cafuego_: i have libpng,but still get 'error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3'
[02:20] <Chicory> If anything "Vienna" is coming out in 2009.
[02:20] <cafuego_> oxigen: What app gives you that error?
[02:21] <Chicory> ... Supposedly.  :P
[02:21] <frogzoo> zyth: quick google turned up this "Try hiding some of the partitions when
[02:21] <frogzoo> trying to boot XP/vista with something like
[02:21] <frogzoo> "hide=(hd0,0)" in your grub.conf...obviously you will have to hide the correct partitions for your system."
[02:21] <chrisjw_> is k3b available with synaptic
[02:21] <Chicory> Vista, after all, was SUPPOSED to come out like four years ago.
[02:21] <jrib> !k3b | chrisjw_
[02:21] <ubotu> chrisjw_: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:21] <oxigen> cafuego_: kerkythea
[02:21] <lolman> Chicory: I'd call it 2011, and with a load of stuff removed too
[02:21] <zyth> frogzoo, ehh? that an option in menu.lst?
[02:21] <Chicory> Ah.
[02:21] <jrib> chrisjw_: (yes)
[02:21] <chrisjw_> hmm
[02:21] <cafuego_> oxigen: installed using apt?
[02:21] <Chicory> As long as people keep porting my favorite games into Linux, I'll stick with Linux/WinXP ...
[02:22] <chrisjw_> i'm after something such as clone dvd or ripdvd
[02:22] <oxigen> cafuego_: no, it's not available
[02:22] <ahave> what is the thing to install if i want to install kde?
[02:22] <frogzoo> zyth: it's a grub option you can set within the doze section, google around for examples
[02:22] <Chicory> Granted that my WinXP installation doesn't die, which it will.
[02:22] <cafuego_> oxigen: So compiled binary off a site somewhere?
[02:22] <zyth> ok
[02:22] <chrisjw_> will k3b do that or is it just a dvd burner
[02:22] <lasse_> sebrock|a, dont think no iface command will work
[02:22] <oxigen> cafuego_: yes
[02:22] <frogzoo> chrisjw_: k3b copies dvds, yes
[02:22] <cafuego_> typical. probably redhat binary.
[02:22] <oxigen> hmm
[02:22] <lasse_> sebrock|a,  sudo ifconfig up eth0   should use dhcp by default
[02:23] <sebrock|a> well it doesnt
[02:23] <jrib> !kde | ahave
[02:23] <ubotu> ahave: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:23] <chrisjw_> frogzoo: even dvds i buy from stores that i want to make backups of
[02:23] <sebrock|a> damn!!!
[02:23] <Chicory> !beryl
[02:23] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:23] <frogzoo> chrisjw_: I don't see why not
[02:23] <cafuego_> oxigen: Do you have 'libpng3' installed as well?
[02:23] <oxigen> cafuego_: yes
[02:23] <chrisjw_> there are protections that stop you doing things like that
[02:24] <Night_Owl> ok how do I find where smb.conf is hiding on my system? :/
[02:24] <ahave> jrib, how will it work? will i be given a choice? i want to have both gnome and KDE just to try them out
[02:24] <chrisjw_> but programs such as clonedvd on windows break the protection
[02:24] <frogzoo> chrisjw_: try it, see what happens
[02:24] <cafuego_> oxigen: what does `ldd kerkythea' say about libpng.so.3?
[02:24] <lasse_> Night_Owl, its in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:24] <Pici> Night_Owl: probably in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:24] <jrib> ahave: at the long screen, you can choose which you want to use with the "Options" button in the bottom left corner
[02:24] <Chicory> Quick question -- can I run Beryl using the proprietary binary ATI driver?
[02:24] <dreckslord> hello dudes
[02:24] <Chicory> Inquiring minds wish to know.  :s
[02:24] <oxigen> cafuego_: i have also problems with compiling inkscape 0.45, the same libpng3 problem :/
[02:25] <lasse_> sebrock|a, check the /etc/network/interfaces   file and confirm taht eth0 is set to dhcp
[02:25] <ahave> jrib, ok. sweet.
[02:25] <Pici> Chicory: I don't think you should have any problems
[02:25] <dreckslord> can sombody help me with my grub i tried to install but he says Error: Couldn't find /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst. Is GRUB installed?
[02:25] <cafuego_> oxigen: Well, there at least I can help you, I have inkscape 0.45 packages for edgy :-)
[02:25] <ahave> jrib, one more Q: is there a way to findout how much room i have remaining on my / partition?
[02:25] <Chicory> Ah, well, the Ubuntu Community Documentation is having a hissy fit about that.
[02:25] <variant> How do you set the default media player for all video formats, without having to do it one at a time?
[02:25] <ahave> jrib, i feel as if i am installing left and right here...
[02:25] <jrib> ahave: df -h, or right click and go to properties in natuilus
[02:25] <Pici> dreckslord: What exactly is giving you the error?
[02:26] <cafuego_> oxigen: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/edgy-cafuego/inkscape/
[02:26] <dreckslord> pici its the installer of arch linux
[02:26] <oxigen> cafuego_: yea!!? cool!! thanks!
[02:26] <dreckslord> i dont know what command its specified
[02:26] <sebrock|a> lasse_ maybe I need to set the gateway
[02:26] <lasse_> sebrock|a, it should say something like auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:26] <lasse_> sebrock|a, no dhcp will do that for you
[02:26] <Pelo> morning folks,  anyone know something to convert m4a to mp3 ?
[02:26] <variant> Pelo: mplayer.. or google for m4a2mp3
[02:27] <chrisjw_> frogzoo:
[02:27] <chrisjw_> k9copy is a tabbed tool that allows to copy of one or more titles from a DVD9
[02:27] <chrisjw_> to a DVD5, in thesame way than DVDShrink for Microsoft Windows (R).
[02:27] <variant> Pelo: mplayer/mencoder
[02:27] <sebrock|a> I wonder... rebooting
[02:27] <Pici> dreckslord: uh, Ubuntu installs the menu.lst to /boot/grub/menu.lst  I'm not sure if I can help you with an Arch Linux install
[02:27] <chrisjw_> that's what i wanted
[02:27] <Pelo> mplayuer realy ?
[02:27] <chrisjw_> thanks:)
[02:27] <cafuego_> oxigen: Hmm, I have no problems running kerkythea on edgy.  Can you reinstall your libpng3? (sudo apt-get install --reinstall libpng3)
[02:27] <variant> Pelo: well, mencoder which is part of mplayer. yes
[02:27] <Pelo> ah
[02:27] <Pelo> thks
[02:27] <oxigen> cafuego_: ok, i'll try
[02:28] <lasse_> Night_Owl, how is the samba configuration going?
[02:28] <variant> Pelo: really you would want to play the m4a file and pipe it to mp3 encoder
[02:28] <Asl[a] n> do I have to enable WINS server on ubuntu tog get samba wrking properly?
[02:28] <frogzoo> Asl[a] n: you can map by ip only if you don't want to use nmb
[02:28] <CrakeHunter> how do i manually unmount my dvdrom ? and mount it again?
[02:28] <ahave> jrib, ok. thanks. ... i only have 1G remaining for installs :O
[02:29] <dreckslord> pici yes i had ubuntu installed but i mgiht crushed gdm so i just tryed something new :D
[02:29] <dreckslord> pici what do you think can i do?
[02:29] <oxigen> cafuego_: you are right! i have now problems with libtiff, but i know now where is the problem. hmm, how comes?
[02:29] <lasse_> CrakeHunter, sudo mount  to list the mounted devices   then sudo umount /dev/<yourdvdrom>    then sudo mount /dev/<yourdvdrom>
[02:29] <lisette> # j ./momomo
[02:29] <cafuego_> oxigen: Dunno... unfinished update at some stage?
[02:30] <lisette> vad skriva bjrn
[02:30] <oxigen> cafuego_: hmm, maybe... thank you!
[02:30] <cafuego_> np :-)
[02:31] <oxigen> cafuego_: do you have some pubkey for your repository?
[02:31] <cafuego_> oxigen: Yeah, check the front page of the site link, it's there
[02:32] <CrakeHunter> lasse, thanks, it tells me "the device is busy"
[02:32] <oxigen> cafuego_: ok, thanks
[02:32] <cafuego_> or pull it from a keyserver
[02:33] <Chicory> AIGLX v. GLX in Edgy using fglrx -- does it matter?
[02:33] <frogzoo> Chicory: XGL for fglrx
[02:33] <CrakeHunter> lasse, how do i force unmounting my drive?
[02:34] <Chicory> Ah, thanks frogzoo.
[02:34] <lasse_> CrakeHunter, i was wondering about the same thing.
[02:34] <CrakeHunter> ;)
[02:34] <frogzoo> Chicory: also you may consider reading the docs...
[02:34] <frogzoo> !beryl | Chicory
[02:34] <ubotu> Chicory: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <chona> how can i run a c file?
[02:34] <chona> how can i run a c file?
[02:35] <mackinac> c is source code
[02:35] <lasse_> CrakeHunter, i guess the -f option would work
[02:35] <hjmills> are there any known issues with the latest linux-restricted-modules and the atheros based wireless cards?
[02:35] <lasse_> chona, youll have to compile it
[02:36] <Night_Owl> ug
[02:36] <chona> then after compiling?
[02:36] <suguru_> I just went to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ as I was told and did a pastin.  I also did it in pastin.com or org  Sorry guys.  18 hrs fly plus all nite here Now must fly again
[02:36] <chona> then after compiling wirth gcc?
[02:36] <chona> then after compiling with gcc?
[02:36] <CrakeHunter> lsse, yea thats the comman, however it still says: device is busy
[02:36] <rexsum> you can execute it or link it
[02:36] <chona> is it ./ ?
[02:36] <lasse_> hjmills, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/+bugs?field.tag=atheros ?
[02:37] <chona> it says permission denied
[02:37] <hjmills> thanks lasse_
[02:37] <rexsum> gcc -o file.c file?
[02:37] <Rossimo-work> is there any way I can disable ad-hoc networking with NetworkManager?
[02:37] <chona> rexsum: then what?
[02:38] <rexsum> then you have an executeable
[02:38] <lasse_> CrakeHunter, im not sure.
[02:38] <rexsum> might want to read the install file that came with it
[02:38] <rexsum> or get prebuild programs if you dont know how to build
[02:38] <lasse_> Night_Owl, how did the samba configuration go?
[02:38] <Asl[a] n> how come i don't get any contents in the network folder- cripes. I was able to share files without a problem on samba. but not anymore.
[02:38] <Asl[a] n> ok, i can see an icon which says 'windows network'.
[02:38] <Asl[a] n> but nothing happens when I double click it
[02:39] <lasse_> Asl[a] n, try  smb://<iptotheserveryouwanttoconnectto  in nautilus
[02:39] <lasse_> Asl[a] n, *smb//<iptotheserver>
[02:40] <Asl[a] n> lasse_, __GASP___. you're a life saver :)
[02:40] <hjmills>  can network manager be set to auto connect to any open network if there are no known secured networks around?
[02:40] <hjmills> and can it be set to run a script when it does so?
[02:41] <Asl[a] n> lasse_, so how come it doesnt work like it used to? i used to be able to see the server on my network.
[02:41] <Asl[a] n> not anymore though
[02:41] <lasse_> Asl[a] n, you can mount it so you dont have to write the ip adress all the time.. http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in-ubuntu.html
[02:41] <lasse_> Asl[a] n, im not sure
[02:42] <Night_Owl> ug
[02:42] <CheshireViking> hjmills, don't know how you would set it to do that, but my laptop connects automatically to an open network if there;s one available, not sure how it would react if it found 2 open networks in range though, presumably it'd connect to the last one it was connected to, or maybe just the first one it finds
[02:42] <Night_Owl> I haven't a clue, lasse_
[02:42] <lasse_> Night_Owl, whats the problem
[02:42] <Night_Owl> I think I did it properly according to what you'd shown me
[02:42] <Night_Owl> But I don't know how to get the two systems to be able to 'see' each other :/
[02:43] <lasse_> Night_Owl, after you have edited the /etc/samba/smb.conf   youll have to restart samba to load the new config file
[02:43] <Night_Owl> ok how do I restart it without rebooting the PC?
[02:44] <Night_Owl> sorry I've never had a Linux box before :/
[02:44] <lasse_> Night_Owl, the way you do that is   sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart    .   Then try to write smb://<iptoyourwindowsbox> in nautilus  or \\<iptotheubuntubox> in windows
[02:45] <erUSUL> !seen albe84tr
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen albe84tr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <rexsum> !seen me?
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <frankzhao> hi, how to disconnect using pppoeconf?
[02:48] <frankzhao> i want to disconnect ...
[02:48] <Night_Owl> hmm.. how do I find my IP address for my Linux box? :/
[02:48] <jfanaian_> ifconfig
[02:48] <frankzhao> ipconfig, I think
[02:48] <Zil_> frankzhao: sudo poff -a
[02:48] <ahave> is there a terminal command to display system settings? i want to display info such as whether or not the system is 32bit or 64
[02:48] <frankzhao> thanks a lot!
[02:48] <Zil_> np
[02:49] <Zil_> anybody have an idea for a PDF editor?
[02:49] <frankzhao> where r u from, man?
[02:49] <hjmills> frankzhao: ipconfig is for windows - ifconfig is the linux command
[02:49] <jfanaian_> I'm having a problem with my ubuntu... I installed my ATI drivers last night and also apt said to do "apt-get autoremove" to remove ndiswrapper-common because supposedly it wasn't needed
[02:49] <frankzhao> yes, u r right! it is cool to chat with everybody here!
[02:49] <jfanaian_> Now when I boot normally it stops before the login screen and doesn't show anything but the typing "_" on the top left
[02:49] <jfanaian_> And if I boot in recovery mode it stops after ndiswrapper loads
[02:49] <chona> why can't i use this ./ ?
[02:49] <jfanaian_> And it says "NET: Registered protocol family 17"
[02:50] <jfanaian_> And it won't boot after that :(
[02:50] <IdleOne> chona, what are you trying to use it for?
[02:50] <chona> to run
[02:50] <IdleOne> run what?
[02:51] <bulmer> chona an equivalent to that is  source command
[02:51] <IdleOne> !away | faemir_
[02:51] <ubotu> faemir_: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:51] <chona> i already included a source command..it doesn't work on any command
[02:52] <chona> like ./configure..and any other commands
[02:52] <IdleOne> bulmer, doesnt chona need to install build-essential to be able to use ./configure and the such?
[02:52] <chona> all i want is to run a file afetr compiling it.. i worked before, but now it doesn't
[02:52] <jfanaian_> Is there an alternate way to boot other than recovery boot? When I try to boot in recovery mode it hangs
[02:52] <Night_Owl> *sigh*
[02:53] <Night_Owl> OK
[02:53] <ahave> is there a terminal command to display info such as whether or not the system is 32bit or 64
[02:53] <chona> i already installed build-essential
[02:53] <chona> i already installed build-essential, its the latest..
[02:53] <chona> i can compile with gcc but i can't run
[02:53] <chona> i can compile with gcc but i can't run any
[02:53] <Night_Owl> I can tell XP it has two different IP addresses, one for LAN and one for the Internet, using the same NIC. How do I do that for the other box?
[02:54] <bulmer> chona  its like this  .  ./commandhere
[02:54] <chona> yes, i've done thta...
[02:54] <chona> yes, i've done that..
[02:54] <chona> as i've said, it worked before..
[02:55] <IdleOne> chona what did you compile?
[02:55] <Night_Owl> I'm gonna log on from the Linux box.. be able to C&P from there should I need to
[02:55] <Chicory> Argh!
[02:55] <erUSUL> Night_Owl: use ethn:1 as the second iface of ethn (so you have two virtual nics in the same real nic)
[02:56] <Chicory> Why is XGL being such a pain in the ass?  :s
[02:56] <IdleOne> !ohmy | Chicory
[02:56] <ubotu> Chicory: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:56] <Chicory> fglrx worked without any errors regarding DRI.
[02:56] <pic__> heya ;] 
[02:56] <erUSUL> Night_Owl: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/IP-Alias.html
[02:56] <Chicory> Ah, sorry, IdleOne.
[02:56] <IdleOne> NP
[02:56] <Chicory> But, lo, xgl -- xgl is ... argh.  >: E
[02:56] <IdleOne> !xgl
[02:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:56] <Chicory> Xgl is spitting out "missing DRI" errors all over the place!
[02:56] <Chicory> But AIGLX is certainly no better!  D:
[02:57] <IdleOne> Chicory, try #ubuntu-effects they might be able to help you
[02:57] <NoEvidenZ> You know how you click on System > Administration > Networking?
[02:57] <Chicory> I dunno, it was pretty dead a few minutes ago.
[02:57] <IdleOne> Chicory, :/ hang out here I guess sooner or later someone will be able to help you
[02:58] <glundberg> has anyone had a problem with ubuntu not rebooting completely?
[02:58] <NoEvidenZ> I don't have Networking anymore. What packages do I need to download or reinstall or whatever to get it back?
[02:58] <jfanaian_> Is there an alternate way to boot other than recovery boot? When I try to boot in recovery mode it hangs
[02:59] <Chicory> Thanks, IdleOne.
[02:59] <IdleOne> Chicory, NP sorry I cant help you more
[02:59] <Chicory> Nah, I think I might be on to something in the Ubuntu Help Wiki.
[02:59] <Nightscape> ah
[02:59] <Nightscape> here I am
[02:59] <IdleOne> heya Nightscape
[03:00] <NoEvidenZ> Can anyone tell me how to get Networking back in the System > Administration menu?
[03:00] <Nightscape> on Ubuntu box
[03:00] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, Applications>Add/remove should be in there and you can add it back
[03:00] <NoEvidenZ> What's it called?
[03:01] <IdleOne> probably Networking
[03:01] <NoEvidenZ> Heh, c'mon. It can't be that easy..
[03:01] <IdleOne> why not :)
[03:01] <NoEvidenZ> Because my problems never are. =o
[03:01] <jfanaian_> Is there an alternate way to boot other than recovery boot? When I try to boot in recovery mode it hangs with the last message being "NET : Registered protocol family 17"
[03:01] <NoEvidenZ> Well, maybe a few...
[03:02] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, doesnt seem to be in there
[03:03] <zyth> uhhh my sound has decided to randomly start cutting out for no apparent reason.  It's going, then it gets skippy, then it just turns right off.
[03:03] <NoEvidenZ> IdleOne: Could you maybe look at the launcher on yours and tell me what it launches, so I can go hunt for that?
[03:03] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, you can also install alacarte ( menu editor )
[03:04] <mtyhome> hi all
[03:04] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, app is called network-admin
[03:04] <LjL> Edgy with the updated -11 kernel and updated nvidia drivers from lupine - X works, but it doesn't start at boot, i have to  sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start  manually. anybody else had this happening?
[03:04] <IdleOne> hello mtyhome
[03:04] <Night_Owl> Nightscape - url - http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/IP-Alias.html
[03:04] <mtyhome> can you tell me a way to make networkmanager work with my prism3 wifi chipset?
[03:05] <IdleOne> !wifi | mtyhome
[03:05] <ubotu> mtyhome: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:05] <jfanaian_> Is there an alternate way to boot other than recovery boot? When I try to boot in recovery mode it hangs with the last message being "NET : Registered protocol family 17"
[03:05] <NoEvidenZ> IdleOne: Thanks
[03:05] <Hudso1> Anyone able to help me get Nvidia drivers installed and AIGLX working? I can't seem to get it to work
[03:05] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, yup
[03:06] <Nightscape> uggg
[03:06] <Nightscape> this looks confusing :/
[03:06] <IdleOne> Nightscape, what does?
[03:06] <Jowi> jfanaian_, boot in recovery and press ctrl-c to interrupt the bootprocess when you feel you can
[03:06] <Nightscape> This thing about aliasing IPs and NICs
[03:06] <IdleOne> oh
[03:07] <jfanaian_> Jowi: it does nothing if i do that, but if i press ctrl+alt+del it interrupts and goes right to the prompt but the whole drive is in read-only mode
[03:07] <Qzr> Is it possible to get flash and java for amd64?
[03:07] <IdleOne> !flash > Qzr
[03:07] <IdleOne> !java > Qzr
[03:07] <Nightscape> I'm guessing it's not possible to do that in a GUI?
[03:07] <LjL> jfanaian_: well, you can remount it read-write with "mount / -o remount,rw"
[03:07] <mtyhome> ok thx for the link, but does somebody use linux-wlan-ng drivers with nm??
[03:07] <Qzr> !flash
[03:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <erUSUL> Qzr: flash:no, java: dunno but i bet no
[03:07] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:07] <Qzr> !java
[03:07] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:08] <jfanaian_> LjL: I will try that and see if it works
[03:08] <Qzr> !backports
[03:08] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:08] <LjL> jfanaian_: i don't really know what the protocol family 17 message is about, however
[03:09] <finalbeta> What software do I need to create a shoutcast server, or something that does the same, and allows me to schedule?
[03:09] <jfanaian_> LjL: Cool, its working now :) Let me see if I can get it to boot normally by replacing the xorg.conf backup, because I think it has to do with me trying to install my ATI drivers
[03:09] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, I've been migrating my friend to linux now for about 1 week and there still remains a few big bugs that render him booting back into winxp "yuk" and the transition aint working as of yet
[03:09] <rexsum> i sense a question
[03:10] <LjL> !darkice > finalbeta    (finalbeta, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:10] <LjL> !icecast-server > finalbeta    (finalbeta, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:10] <finalbeta> thank you
[03:10] <Night_Owl> "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck would?"
[03:10] <Night_Owl> :)
[03:10] <apecat> how can i enable a full kernel message output view on bootup in ubuntu?
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> the radio streaming in linux is weird it plays for about 1 min or 2 then stops?? he has a 1.1mb connection and it works fine in windoze
[03:10] <LjL> finalbeta: i don't know about scheduling, but i suppose that in the worst case, you could do with some shell script
[03:10] <rexsum> crappy sound daemon/drivers?
[03:10] <apecat> i've tried  # defoptions=quiet splash
[03:11] <rexsum> dmesg will list it afterwards
[03:11] <apecat> in grub's conf
[03:11] <erUSUL> apecat: quit the quite boot option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:11] <rexsum> wasnt the tag nosplash ?
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> rexsum, how would I check which are currently being used
[03:11] <rexsum> probably esd in the process list
[03:11] <apecat> hmm
[03:11] <unop> LjL,  The IP Protocol #17 pertains to the UDP protocol. :)
[03:11] <rexsum> kill it and then try to mpg123 directly to the sound device
[03:11] <LjL> unop: ACK
[03:12] <apecat> erUSUL: thanks
[03:12] <unop> LjL,  ahh no, UDP doesnt not understand and use them :)
[03:12] <Paddy_EIRE> rexsum, gonna note what I will do otherwise I maybe on this channel in his comp if i still cant solve it
[03:12] <erUSUL> apecat: no problem
[03:12] <LjL> unop: don't nitpick now :P
[03:12] <unop> LjL,  AYN/ACK? :p
[03:12] <Hudso1> Every time I try to use envy to install nvidia drivers I end up reinstalling ubuntu
[03:12] <unop> SYN/ACK*
[03:12] <Hudso1> anyone able to point in me a better direction
[03:12] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Hudso1
[03:12] <ubotu> Hudso1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:13] <[h] tony|afk> moin moin
[03:13] <karthik> hi guys help needed in gcc...how to convert integer to string>???????/
[03:13] <karthik> hi guys help needed in gcc...how to convert integer to string>???????/
[03:13] <LjL> unop: well surely TCP isn't the only network protocol where ACK packets are used anyway :P
[03:13] <LjL> !repeat  | karthik
[03:13] <ubotu> karthik: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:13] <Nightscape> ruh roh
[03:13] <meuchu> bonjour les gens
[03:13] <karthik> hi guys help needed in gcc...how to convert integer to string>???????/
[03:13] <karthik> ok
[03:13] <IdleOne> !fr | meuchu
[03:13] <ubotu> meuchu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:13] <LjL> karthik: this is an Ubuntu support channel, not a programming room... .P
[03:13] <Chicory> A HA!
[03:14] <Chicory> <3
[03:14] <Chicory> http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[03:14] <Chicory> Beryl+XGL on Edgy!
[03:14] <Qzr> !flash
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:14] <LjL> karthik: sprintf(string, "%d", integer)
[03:15] <CrakeHunter> how do i create a symlink?
[03:15] <LjL> CrakeHunter: ln -s target linkname
[03:15] <LjL> CrakeHunter: man ln
[03:15] <CrakeHunter> k thx
[03:15] <unop> LjL,  indeed, but in terms of networking it's TCP that comes to mind as the one that relies of acknowldgements, connections, flow control, etc .. UDP is the "chilled out" cousin :)
[03:15] <Nightscape> That URL I was given earlier (for IP aliasing) .. the first line I was given, I'm sure I typed right, and it came back saying can't read.. no such file or directory
[03:15] <bulmer> how one would test an LPD services from running on a windows xp (printer parallel por attached); testit from linux side
[03:15] <NoEvidenZ> IdleOne: No luck.
[03:16] <jfanaian_> LjL: Its still not booting, I don't know what the problem is. Could it have to do with ndiswrapper-common? Aptitude said I should do a apt-get autoremove because that package wasn't being used. Could that cause it to hang?
[03:16] <Nightscape> the line about loading the module into the kernel
[03:17] <LjL> jfanaian_, i don't really know. i would look at /etc/network/interfaces and disable any interface you aren't using. but i'm not even sure why i'm saying this - it's just as likely to be successful as any other random thing
[03:17] <LjL> !away > faemir_    (faemir_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:17] <jfanaian_> LjL: I'll see what I can do
[03:17] <unop> bulmer,  are you sure it's not CIFS (like samba) thats not sharing the printer there?
[03:18] <bulmer> unop: the LPD services is run on the xp
[03:18] <LjL> jfanaian_: perhaps look at /var/log/messages and friends, and try to see exactly where the boot process stops (the message you mentioned might be deceiving)
[03:18] <erUSUL> bulmer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[03:18] <bulmer> unop: i just need to telnet to it or something to check the queue if it is getting the print jobs
[03:18] <jfanaian_> LjL: I'll look in there as well. I just installed ndiswrapper-common to see if that is the problem because the message right before it is about ndiswrapper loading
[03:19] <jfanaian_> LjL: Oh it was it!!!! It booted :)
[03:19] <LjL> jfanaian_: cool
[03:19] <jfanaian_> LjL: Now let me try normal boot
[03:19] <CrakeHunter> and how do i delete copyprotected files?
[03:19] <unop> bulmer,  if you were to be strict .. LPD is a unix thing not windows .. so if you said LPD on windows, i'd be inclined to think you were running it under cygwin/uwin
[03:19] <Pici> unop: Or Windows Services for Unix
[03:20] <bulmer> unop: they have an equivalent LPD services running on the windows xp
[03:20] <unop> Pici,  or that yea
[03:20] <Jowi> CrakeHunter, rm -f filename
[03:20] <CrakeHunter> k thanks
[03:20] <jfanaian_> LjL: Awesome, it all works perfect :)
[03:21] <LjL> CrakeHunter: no file is "copyprotected". files can be marked as readable, writable or executable, for a given user -- and anyway, *deleting* a file pertains to the permission that the *directory* (and not just the file) has
[03:21] <LjL> CrakeHunter: if the file is owned by root, delete it as root (though this begs the question, why would you delete a root owned file?)
[03:21] <unop> bulmer,  well, i think you mean "Windows File and Printing Services"  .. so http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html
[03:21] <bulmer> unop: actually I dont know how to test if one is running (LPD) on an Linux box..just do an lpstat?
[03:21] <bulmer> unop: that could be it, File and print services
[03:22] <CrakeHunter> ljl - im experimenting with cedega. i cannot just delete a file in there i need to go to console and get su rights
[03:22] <unop> bulmer,  err yea, that link has a section i think to troubleshooting the windows print services
[03:22] <marsswell> how do you  find a server in the software Alexandria?
[03:22] <CrakeHunter> i assume there is no possibility to get sudo rights on the desktop without going to console
[03:22] <CrakeHunter> this would speed things up
[03:23] <rexsum> you need root if you cant su or sudo yeah
[03:23] <rexsum> su prolly works though
[03:23] <jfanaian_> Is there any other wifi manager other than the default Networking tool on ubuntu to manage multiple wifi networks easier?
[03:23] <erUSUL> CrakeHunter: you can launch a 'gksudo nautilus'
[03:23] <erUSUL> jfanaian_: network manager
[03:23] <marsswell> how do you  find a server in the software Alexandria?
[03:23] <CrakeHunter> a good!
[03:23] <Farhan> I went to /etc/dgm/dgm.conf-custom and well I enabled allowroot=true but it doesn't work.
[03:24] <array_> hi
[03:24] <marsswell> how do you  find a server in the software Alexandria?
[03:24] <IdleOne> !repeat | marsswell
[03:24] <ubotu> marsswell: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:24] <freezey> besides running an psaux how do i find what programs are running?
[03:25] <marsswell> sorry
[03:25] <faemir_> don't you just love ubotu ;)
[03:25] <bulmer> CrakeHunter: try this  sudo su -
[03:25] <Night_Owl> I'm lost :/
[03:26] <fiXXXerMet> Could anyone help me set the hostname in ubuntu 6.10?  Everytime I do "hostname site.domain.tld", it changes back at reboot.  I even echo the address to /proc/sys/kernel/hostname
[03:26] <jrib> fiXXXerMet: system > administration > networking
[03:26] <fiXXXerMet> Server - no gui
[03:27] <freezey> fiXXXerMet: it should be in /etc/
[03:27] <jrib> fiXXXerMet: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts appropriately
[03:27] <fiXXXerMet> Should /etc/hostname be the fqdn, or just the part before the first dot?
[03:28] <freezey> fiXXXerMet: its just your computer name
[03:28] <chrisjw_> join ##windows
[03:28] <chrisjw_> oops
[03:28] <chrisjw_> sorry
[03:28] <chrisjw_> wine is screwing up
[03:28] <fiXXXerMet> Mail?  or mail.domain.tld?  This is a mail server
[03:28] <jfanaian_> erUSUL: I already have network-manager installed... how do I find it?
[03:29] <buckwild> has anyone had any experience running two x servers?
[03:29] <freezey> buckwild: yeah it crashes
[03:29] <buckwild> I tried running twinview with my HDTV and my monitor
[03:29] <Night_Owl> I looked at the mini howto for IP aliasing, but the first command I went to type in (to load the module) came back with an error a la 'file not found'
[03:29] <buckwild> but the problem is that my monitor isn't widescreen, and my HDTV is
[03:30] <buckwild> so my HDTV I think will constantly be forced into a non-widescreen resolution (aka cutting off some of the screen)
[03:30] <freezey> buckwild: are you trying to get the dual monitor affect?
[03:30] <buckwild> freezey: exactly
[03:31] <buckwild> freezey: I don't really care if both monitors are tied together, I'd like to eventually run mythTV on my TV and other stuff on my computer
[03:31] <erUSUL> jfanaian_: run nm-applet
[03:31] <freezey> buckwild: how i have it is i have 2 monitors that are identical
[03:31] <erUSUL> !nm
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <erUSUL> !network-manager
[03:31] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:31] <freezey> buckwild: you can do that but ur mythTV would be running through a diff card
[03:31] <buckwild> freezey: why a different card?
[03:31] <freezey> buckwild: or my apologies that dam wingo tv card
[03:31] <freezey> buckwild: i had this setup before
[03:32] <freezey> buckwild: i just cant remember how i had mythTV going
[03:32] <buckwild> my problem right now is getting the HDTV to pop up at a resolution that makes sense
[03:32] <buckwild> I don't think twinview works with one regular resolution monitor and one 16:9 resolution monitor
[03:32] <freezey> buckwild: yeah if you run 2 sessions of X server its going to crash
[03:33] <buckwild> I've gotten both to have a picture at the same time, but both monitors were in a regular monitor resolution, and the HDTV wasn't showing all of the screen due to that
[03:34] <therapy> anyone had problems on logout with ati cards and fglrx drivers?
[03:34] <freezey> hhmm
[03:34] <buckwild> isn't there a way to run two different X servers, one per monitor?
[03:34] <buckwild> is that possible?
[03:34] <freezey> yeah buckwild: no
[03:34] <buckwild> no?
[03:34] <freezey> buckwild: i have tried to run 2 xservers
[03:34] <freezey> buckwild: and it has crashed on me and i had to rebuild xorg
[03:35] <buckwild> hmm
[03:35] <buckwild> what would you suggest then?
[03:35] <portahex> my feisty desktop is no longer booting, following the last round of updates. it begins to boot, shows some unexpected messages ("init: 1: cannot open /dev/root" and output from "modprobe -h" and "busybox" amongst other things). it then stalls completely around the usb device detection stage
[03:35] <buckwild> xinerama?
[03:35] <buckwild> twinview I don't think will work
[03:35] <buckwild> I think both monitors have to have the same aspect ratio
[03:36] <buckwild> and I don't wanna buy a 16:10 monitor just to get it to work right
[03:36] <buckwild> I think the problem with twinview is that it wants the added resolutions to equal a 16:9 or 4:3 ratio when they aren't going to when you combine a 4:3 and a 16:9 display together
[03:37] <freezey> buckwild: yeah buck i am not sure i personally have 2 identical monitors running... so i dont know any other way to do it... but i know running 2 sessions of X does not work.. but maybe their is some way you can do it with editing the xorg.conf
[03:37] <freezey> buckwild: i would say google it... or even post a question on ... http://www.linuxquestions.org
[03:37] <jrib> portahex: #ubutnu+1 for feisty
[03:37] <dave> buckwiled, i got two different xservers running by editing my /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make sure u backup first) so that it was setup for extended desktop over two monitors using xinerama, then deleting the "leftof" part in the serveroptions at the bottom
[03:37] <jfanaian_> Oh god, now my wireless interface won't show up even though it shows in ndiswrapper -l as present :(
[03:37] <nofxx> hi.. my pppoe connection drops in ubuntu.. and  I need to restart the modem to make it work!! it wasnt happening in xubuntu..... any idea???
[03:38] <freezey> dave: thats not two different xservers running tho... thats just using dual monitors isnt it?
[03:38] <freezey> dave: so what your saying is you have 2 entirely different desktop enviroments?
[03:39] <buckwild> what I've read of xinerama is that you can't set resolutions on either monitor, is that true
[03:39] <facugaich> I want to upgrade the kernel but it tells me its not authenticated, what's going on? (Dapper)
[03:39] <buckwild> I think that honestly I'll have to hardcode the resolution for the HDTV in because I don't think it'll detect it
[03:39] <array_> Can someone help me? I tried to install xchat by tarball so I got a new icon 'XChat IRC' in applications/internet menu, but it doesn't work 'child process execution failed'... then I installed xchat-gnome using apt-get and it's ok but I want to uninstall the other xchat
[03:39] <buckwild> when I run it with just the HDTV it puts it in a standard desktop resolution
[03:40] <samalex> Hey guys.  I had been running Ubuntu 6.10 but installed KDE as that's what I prefer to use over Gnome.  This morning the HD in this box died so I replaced it but installed Kubuntu instead.  Though it's still KDE, it looks quite different.  For example, the fonts just don't look right as commas and periods look almost the same.  Also many apps, like synaptic, aren't there.  I'm installing these one by one, but just curious.
[03:40] <freezey> array_: sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:40] <array_> freezey: I need to uninstall it
[03:40] <freezey> array_: sudo apt-get remove xchat
[03:40] <freezey> lol
[03:41] <array_> oh, thanks :)
[03:41] <nofxx> hi.. my pppoe connection drops in ubuntu 6.10.. and  I need to restart the modem to make it work!! it wasnt happening in xubuntu 6.10 too..... any idea???
[03:43] <jfanaian_> I'm having a problem now. Ndiswrapper is showing my wireless card as present, but it won't show up in iwconfig or ifconfig
[03:43] <array_> freezey: it says xchat is not installed so it shouldn't be removed
[03:43] <nofxx> jfanaian_: ifconfig ra0 up ?
[03:43] <nofxx> or iwconfig... i dunno...
[03:44] <jfanaian_> nofxx: I don't have a device named ra0
[03:44] <Quintin_> I keep getting "Your session has been saved." when I click power button to power off.  then it doesn't power off, but keeps running
[03:44] <jfanaian_> nofxx: ifconfig -a only shows eth0, lo and sit0
[03:44] <Quintin_> I don't want any "session" crap anywhere
[03:44] <nofxx> jfanaian_: humm... it gives that name on my laptop...
[03:45] <jfanaian_> nofxx: We can have different interface names :)
[03:45] <Quintin_> any ideas ?
[03:45] <jfanaian_> nofxx: Mine's usually named wlan0
[03:45] <nofxx> jfanaian_: yup.. sure.... try sit0 up
[03:45] <Night_Owl> meh
[03:46] <Night_Owl> I'll pop by tomorrow
[03:46] <Night_Owl> hopefully someone can help me then :)
[03:46] <gary> I'm having problems with the internet on my PC.  It is very very slow.  I'm on a local network, and the other computers seem fine, but mine is slow for some reason.  can anyone help me with commands that will help me try to find a reason why this is happening.  I think I have a 100mbps network card
[03:46] <nofxx> jfanaian_: i guess is the chipset... i've got a ralink....
[03:48] <jfanaian_> nofxx: Probably heh
[03:48] <Pici> !ipv6 | gary, take a look at this, it should speed up your network browsing
[03:48] <ubotu> gary, take a look at this, it should speed up your network browsing: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:48] <Quintin_> gary: disable ipv6
[03:48] <Nino> re
[03:48] <Quintin_> re
[03:48] <Pici> re?
[03:49] <Quintin_> Pici: noob
[03:49] <Pici> pft
[03:49] <freezey> is anybody familiar with postfix and sympa?
[03:49] <gary> ubotu: Quintin_ thanks, I'll try to do that now
[03:49] <buckwild> anyone have any experience using even an HDTV in ubuntu
[03:49] <buckwild> getting the correct resolution to show up?
[03:49] <Nino> sorry, i'm french, i'm have error on open channel
[03:50] <Nino> bybye
[03:50] <Quintin_> Nino: bie
[03:50] <gap-closer> chriz
[03:51] <jfanaian_> My wireless was working before, but now it isn't showing up with either iwconfig or ifconfig even though in ndiswrapper it shows it as present
[03:52] <gary> Sorry, quick question, how do I tell if I am using dapper, breezy, etc??
[03:53] <jrib> !version | gary
[03:53] <ubotu> gary: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:53] <alephant> Hi all...
[03:53] <alephant> ...Is the Mozilla Quality Feedback Agent (AKA Talkback) enabled in the Firefox package in Edgy?
[03:54] <[gijoework] > gary: cat /etc/*-release
[03:54] <array_> Do someone knows how to make the terminal complete a filename while we're typing it? (e.g.: if there is a file called 'file1' in current directory I just type 'fi' and then press TAB)
[03:54] <ithaycu> Hello
[03:54] <gary> Thank You!
[03:54] <gary> restarting to disable IPv6
[03:54] <gary> exit
[03:55] <ithaycu> Can anyone give me some advice on tracking down the cause of unexpected machine shutdowns?
[03:56] <jrib> array_: what shell
[03:56] <erUSUL> ithaycu: check the varius logs in /var/log/
[03:56] <alephant> Anybody?  Talkback / Moz Quality Feedback Agent in Ubuntu Firefox build?
[03:56] <jfanaian_> My wireless was working before, but now it isn't showing up with either iwconfig or ifconfig even though in ndiswrapper it shows it as present
[03:56] <array_> jrib: the terminal under 'applications/accessories' menu
[03:57] <array_> bash i guess
[03:57] <chrisjw_> hi is there any reason why i can't use tahoma with
[03:57] <chrisjw_> amsn
[03:58] <[gijoework] > array_: export PATH=.:"${PATH}"
[03:58] <ithaycu> erUSUL: Thx, I'll check the logs. I know the shutdowns are non-graceful
[03:59] <jfanaian_> chrisjw_: Try doing "sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts"
[03:59] <jfanaian_> chrisjw_: That will install the Microsoft TrueType core fonts
[03:59] <array_> thanks [gijoework] , will this work after my next reboot?
[04:00] <chrisjw_> i have done all of that
[04:00] <Benjiboy0784> hi... i really need some assistance on installing ubuntu 6.10
[04:00] <chrisjw_> tahoma isn't part of that anyway
[04:00] <chrisjw_> i've already installed tahoma
[04:00] <[gijoework] > array_: No, but add it to your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[04:00] <chrisjw_> my problem is, amsn can't see it in the font list
[04:00] <chrisjw_> every other application seems to eb able to
[04:00] <jrib> array_: bind '"\t":menu-complete'    it seems
[04:00] <chrisjw_> gaim, open office, vIRC, xchat
[04:00] <array_> [gijoework] : is there a way to make it works with folders as well?
[04:01] <jfanaian_> chrisjw_: Does MSN rune nativetly on ubuntu? Or are you running it through wine or similar?
[04:01] <jfanaian_> natively*
[04:01] <gary> I
[04:01] <jrib> array_: see "cycling set-up" http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/papers/bash_tips/
[04:01] <chrisjw_> i'm using aMSN it was a debian package
[04:01] <[gijoework] > array_: it should work with folders as well, it does here anyway. You just have to type in enough characters to make a match.
[04:01] <array_> jrib: thanks, perfect, it's what I was looking for
[04:02] <chrisjw_> I am emulating mIRC at the moment using WINE
[04:02] <chrisjw_> that's even using tahoma!
[04:02] <chrisjw_> i just don't see why the damn application won't
[04:02] <gary> I've disabled ipv6 now, and restarted the computer.  However the internet still seems slightly slow.  Again, I believe the other computers on the network are browsing quite a bit faster than I am.  The command: ip a | grep inet6 returns nothing, so it seems it is turned off
[04:02] <variant> chrisjw_: thats not somthing most people would admit to
[04:02] <chrisjw_> let me use tahoma, im using verdana right now
[04:02] <chrisjw_> thats ok im not bothered i like what i like
[04:02] <chrisjw_> and i like tahoma :(
[04:02] <chrisjw_> any ideas?
[04:02] <variant> nope
[04:03] <chrisjw_> :(
[04:03] <yeniklasor> hi, is here anyone was worked Internet Explorer on linux? Some websites requed I.E
[04:03] <jfanaian_> My wireless was working before, but now it isn't showing up with either iwconfig or ifconfig even though in ndiswrapper it shows it as present
[04:03] <yeniklasor> wine for example
[04:03] <variant> chrisjw_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82318.html
[04:03] <ithaycu> yenkilasor: You'll probably find that most ppl stop using thos sites.
[04:03] <variant> yeniklasor: yes, there is a very nice script that will install it for you flawlessly with flash as well
[04:03] <nofxx> yeniklasor: there is a neat plugin for firefox... you change the name of it for the sites...
[04:03] <ithaycu> yenkilasor: I know I do
[04:03] <nofxx> so the site thinks its IE and you get it.. xD
[04:04] <variant> yeniklasor: I will get you the link
[04:04] <yeniklasor> ok
[04:04] <IdleOne> yeniklasor, if the site isnt firefox friendly then you can email the webmaster and tell them to ge with the times or start using a different website
[04:04] <variant> yeniklasor: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page it installs ie6
[04:04] <jfanaian_> My wireless was working before, but now it isn't showing up with either iwconfig or ifconfig even though in ndiswrapper it shows it as present
[04:04] <yeniklasor> ok I'm checking
[04:05] <nofxx> IdleOne:  that site will be in my blacklist too...  f*** ie only sites
[04:05] <HymnToLife> jfanaian_, does ndiswrapper appear in lsmod ?
[04:05] <nofxx> the worst is this detection thing... without a "let me in anyways"
[04:06] <Benjiboy0784> can anyone help me.....?
[04:06] <nofxx> this firefox addon fixs this... you can change your browser name to opera, ie... anything
[04:06] <variant> yeniklasor: obviously you can improve firefox site compatibility by making sure you ahve all the relevent plugins and fonts installed, as somone else mentioned there is a plugin for firefox that makes it pretend to be ie as well. this fixes 99% of the sites that "require" internet exploiter
[04:06] <bulmer> jfanaian_:  look under /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf  and see if your interface is there
[04:06] <jfanaian_> HymnToLife: Ndiswrapper does show up in lsmod
[04:06] <HymnToLife> Benjiboy0784, you'll need to ask something a bit more precise
[04:06] <jfanaian_> bulmer: the file is empty
[04:07] <yeniklasor> variant : thanks for solve thanks
[04:07] <HymnToLife> jfanaian_, and ndiswrapper -l says "driver installed, hardware present" but iwconfig shows nothing ?
[04:07] <variant> yeniklasor: np
[04:07] <HymnToLife> that's definitely weird :/
[04:07] <jfanaian_> bulmer: oh its a dir
[04:07] <bulmer> jfanaian_: this means the kernel never detected any  of your networking stuff
[04:07] <Benjiboy0784> im trying to install ubuntu but it stops and wont go any further.....
[04:07] <jfanaian_> HymnToLife: Yeah, thats correct
[04:07] <variant> yeniklasor: it does a very good job of installing ie.. but it wont run quite the same as it does on windows
[04:07] <jfanaian_> bulmer: in ipv4/conf it has all, default, and lo
[04:07] <HymnToLife> Benjiboy0784, what is the last thing you see and what does it do exactly after that ?
[04:08] <IdleOne> Benjiboy0784, you need to be alot more specific
[04:08] <bulmer> jfanaian_: what are listed there? be precise now.
[04:08] <yeniklasor> yes but some sites dont look good with firefox
[04:08] <jfanaian_> bulmer: Three directories, all, default, lo... each with a bucnh fo files like accept_redirects, accept_source_route, arp_accept, etc.
[04:08] <Benjiboy0784> i just get a flashing line on the screen... thats what it sits at...
[04:08] <jfanaian_> bulmer: Each seem to have the same files
[04:08] <yeniklasor> I wanted it for this ;)
[04:08] <HymnToLife> Benjiboy0784, try an !alternate CD
[04:09] <IdleOne> !alternate | Benjiboy0784
[04:09] <ubotu> Benjiboy0784: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:09] <jfanaian_> bulmer: If I do lshw the wireless card does show up but it says "UNCLAIMED" for it
[04:09] <HymnToLife> the Live CD's installation thingie can still be quite buggy sometimes
[04:09] <bulmer> jfanaian_: that just shows you dont have a nic recognized..it would have something like eth0 or wlan0
[04:09] <aarohi> which program can i use to make animated gifs?
[04:09] <jfanaian_> bulmer: my eth0 is working fine... i'm using it and i can browse the internet
[04:09] <variant> aarohi: gimp
[04:09] <HymnToLife> aarohi, !gimp
[04:10] <HymnToLife> !gimp
[04:10] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[04:10] <aarohi> variant, i have gimp. what am i looking for in there?
[04:10] <bulmer> jfanaian_: i asked you to be precise when listing whats on that directory, you didnt mention eth0
[04:10] <HymnToLife> aarohi, you need to make layers on your image
[04:10] <aarohi> after that? save as animated gif?
[04:10] <MagicRabbit> Hello everybody! I think I want to kill my Laptop, lol... I might just be being thick though. Anyone know much about Wireless networks - newbie level?
[04:10] <jfanaian_> bulmer: It doesn't have eth0 in there... I told you everything that is in there
[04:10] <IdleOne> !wifi | MagicRabbit
[04:10] <ubotu> MagicRabbit: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:10] <HymnToLife> aarohi, yes, when you'll save a multi-layered image as GIF, you'll have the option to save it as animation
[04:10] <variant> aarohi: you need the gimp animation program afaik.. not done it in  along time
[04:11] <bulmer> jfanaian_: and your eth0 is working you say?
[04:11] <HymnToLife> with each layer being a frame of the animated gif of course
[04:11] <jfanaian_> bulmer: Yup
[04:11] <jfanaia1> bulmer: This is jfanaian_, connected from my ubuntu machine
[04:11] <bulmer> jfanaian_: that is really odd..all has to show up under /proc
[04:12] <variant> aarohi: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Advanced_Animations/
[04:12] <jfanaia1> bulmer: oh wait... eth0 is showing up now
[04:12] <jfanaia1> bulmer: It showed up after i did dhclient eth0 haha, sorry :(
[04:12] <bulmer> jfanaian_: it should, thats the only it will work
[04:12] <MagicRabbit> Thanks - just re-reading to check I haven't missed anything.
[04:12] <variant> aarohi: it's not exactly excellent but it's the only one i know of (there are likly more because it's not somehting I do)
[04:12] <michaelpo> why i cant play vcd in linuxmint? i can play dvd..
[04:12] <jfanaian_> bulmer: Yeah sorry about that =\... I didn't have it loaded, I had to get an IP first and now its showing up, but my wlan0 is not showing up
[04:12] <variant> michaelpo: why are you asking about linuxmint here?
[04:13] <bulmer> jfanaia1: thats the trick, to get the kernel to include your wifi into that dir and all its supporting files
[04:13] <michaelpo> it's based on ubuntu... i had the same problem with ubuntu before...
[04:13] <michaelpo> !vcd
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <variant> michaelpo: so go ask in linuxmint's irc channels or forums
[04:14] <jfanaian_> bulmer: Well, how would I go about that?
[04:14] <bulmer> jfanaia1: you may have to look into /etc/init.d/networking and figure out how this scripts enable interfaces
[04:14] <jfanaian_> bulmer: Oh... Okay I will try to see what I can find
[04:15] <IdleOne> michaelpo, you probably need to install dvd codecs. check the forums for linuxmint. I dont know about linuxmint sorry
[04:15] <bulmer> jfaniian a lil difficult but..
[04:15] <michaelpo> ok
[04:15] <michaelpo> i will reread ubuntu manual
[04:16] <michaelpo> !multimedia
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[04:16] <michaelpo> !codec
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <michaelpo> !codecs
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <Benjiboy0784> rite... a bit more info on what it stops at....... [429.269557]  Kernel panic - Not syncing: VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,1)
[04:17] <HymnToLife> Benjiboy0784, custom kernel ?
[04:17] <IdleOne> michaelpo, type /server irc.spotchat.org then /join #linuxmint.com
[04:17] <Benjiboy0784> no... i went into the help on the install and typed Boot: live acpi=off
[04:18] <jfanaian_> bulmer: So what you're saying is that I should try to figure out how this script loads an interface and try to manually load wlan0?
[04:18] <Sisodiya> hi
[04:19] <MagicRabbit> Ok - have read wireless. My wireless card is coming up as eth1 and wont let me do ifconfig stuff - says "SET failed on device eth1: Operation not permitted"
[04:19] <bulmer> jfanaian if you must ..do what it takes
[04:20] <HymnToLife> MagicRabbit, what kind of card is it ?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> you most likely need a firmware for it
[04:20] <MagicRabbit> It's one built into a Dell Inspiron 2200 - coming up as a Broadcom 4318
[04:21] <infidel_> anyone have a suggestion for an icon editor
[04:21] <Benjiboy0784> does it matter that im trying to install ubuntu on a seoerate partition?
[04:21] <IdleOne> Benjiboy0784, it shouldnt
[04:21] <IdleOne> !dualboot | Benjiboy0784
[04:21] <ubotu> Benjiboy0784: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:21] <infidel_> !icon
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <michaelpo> idle
[04:22] <atari_> !fat32
[04:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:22] <IdleOne> infidel_, search for icon editor in Synaptic
[04:22] <IdleOne> michaelpo, yes?
[04:22] <IdleOne> michaelpo, please enter my whole nick so I can see when you are talking to me :)
[04:23] <infidel_> IdleOne, thankls
[04:23] <infidel_> IdleOne, thanks
[04:23] <IdleOne> infidel_, you find it already?
[04:25] <IdleOne> later folks
[04:25] <geemy> bye
[04:25] <likwidtek> so what's the difference between the "add and remove program" and synaptic
[04:26] <unska_> how can i enable global quickbuttons on totem?
[04:26] <MagicRabbit> I can see my card in the Network Configure but it always says diconnected. Is there a "Connect" button I'm overlooking?
[04:26] <ithaycu> How do I keep from having to reinstall the Nvidia binary driver everytime I reboot?
[04:26] <unska_> they work while totem is focused only
[04:29] <infidel_> IdleOne, yeah mini gimp
[04:30] <arphetic> Hi dudes, im getting anoyed by the retarded error message again which I cant remove :<
[04:30] <Eldox> hey
[04:30] <infidel_> IdleOne, yeah babygimp
[04:30] <gumpish> Grrr... My desktop is 1600x1200 but my screen isn't. (If I move my mouse to the edge it scrolls.) What gives?
[04:31] <MagicRabbit> HymnToLife - How do I check if I have firmware installed... I thought firmware was on the card itself - if this basically drivers under Linux?
[04:31] <Eldox> anyone knows about a partition recovery program, i need to recover two documents from a NTFS partition. i would be very great full :D
[04:31] <ganda1f`> anyone know why wine apps don't see my printer ?
[04:32] <ganda1f`> all the docs say it should automatically add cups printers, but it's never worked for me
[04:32] <gumpish> Eldox:  TestDisk and PhotoRec are free software and worth a try.
[04:33] <Kyral> Eldox: Try the SystemRescue LiveCD
[04:33] <Eldox> tnx, i'll try testdisk :)
[04:34] <Baronvonbarbeque> ok, i have just installed, trying to get ubuntu to recognize my cd drive. any advice?
[04:35] <bulmer> Baronvonbarbeque: did you use a cdrom to install?
[04:35] <Baronvonbarbeque> yes i did.
[04:35] <Baronvonbarbeque> now i see a few things but no cd-drive.
[04:35] <bulmer> try   dmesg | grep cd
[04:36] <bulmer> anything shows up as cd?
[04:36] <Yaseax> hello :)
[04:36] <Baronvonbarbeque> ok, i have just installed the first linux os ever, and i have had it running for 5 min.
[04:37] <bulmer> Baronvonbarbeque: is it okay if I ask you to then browse through the very helpful tutorial on linux? lots of them around
[04:37] <ahave> !xbuntu
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <ahave> could someone tell/link me to what xbuntu is?
[04:37] <Baronvonbarbeque> ok, i found it in the device manager. i may be new to linux but i am far from new to computers
[04:38] <Kaso> ubuntu just died on me, grub failed with error 17 and now i'm on the LiveCD and i can't mount my root Partition, i wonder if anyone has any ideas?
[04:39] <Baronvonbarbeque> ok, here is the next idiot question. the button for my cd-drive is also broken is there any way i can get the computer to eject via command?
[04:39] <seraphim> sudo eject
[04:39] <seraphim> or right-klick the symbol on the desktop and choose eject
[04:39] <Benjiboy0784> how can i specify what partition i want to install ubuntu on?
[04:40] <seraphim> Benjiboy0784: the installer asks you ;)
[04:40] <Baronvonbarbeque> haha
[04:40] <slight> does anyone know if there's any way to hack networkmanager to connect on  boot? i need to mount an NFS homedir over WPA protected wifi...
[04:40] <JaMiNkLe-> how do i restart networking
[04:40] <Benjiboy0784> seraphim: its not letting me get that far
[04:40] <bulmer> Baronvonbarbeque: type the command eject
[04:41] <slight> JaMiNkLe-, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[04:41] <slight> kameron, in terminal
[04:41] <JaMiNkLe-> sweet thanks
[04:41] <slight> er, JaMiNkLe- rather :)
[04:42] <noelferreira> how can i open a .fdf file in edgy? urgent help
[04:42] <slight> what is is noelferreira ?
[04:42] <aarohi> ty variant
[04:43] <JDStone> noelferreira: what's an fdf file?
[04:43] <noelferreira> extension of pdf i guess slight
[04:43] <JDStone> ahh
[04:43] <noelferreira> something to fill forms
[04:43] <slight> i'm not sure you can then
[04:43] <slight> oh
[04:43] <noelferreira> i should
[04:43] <JDStone> try using Preview
[04:43] <ahave> can someone better describe the diff between xbuntu and ubuntu?
[04:43] <noelferreira> i won't install windows in order to open it
[04:43] <soundray> Please help me figure out this USB mass storage device -- it shows up in the device manager with two partitions, but there are no disk device names. What can I do?
[04:43] <slight> noelferreira, try installing acrobat reader
[04:44] <rexsum> xubuntu uses a lighter windowmanager
[04:44] <seraphim> ahave: xubuntu uses xfce, ubuntu uses gnome as desktop-manager
[04:44] <rexsum> and lighter desktop stuff
[04:44] <rexsum> things
[04:44] <noelferreira> ubuntu acrobat reader?
[04:44] <CrakeHunter> im searching for java support in my firefox. do i need to install it manually or is there a java package in synaptic?
[04:44] <noelferreira> lol
[04:44] <ahave> so it would be better fit for an mp3 server?
[04:44] <mthaddon> ahave: Xubuntu uses XFCE as the default window manager (more lightweight, less features) while Ubuntu uses Gnome
[04:44] <ahave> or would ubutnu-server
[04:44] <JDStone> ahave: use ubuntu server
[04:44] <JDStone> if you don't need a gui
[04:45] <JDStone> gotta get ready for work
[04:45] <ahave> alright, thanks everyone
[04:45] <Kaso> my ubuntu just died on me, grub failed with error 17 and now i'm on the LiveCD and i can't mount my root Partition, i wonder if anyone has any ideas?
[04:46] <CrakeHunter> !java
[04:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:46] <soundray> noelferreira: what are you lol'ing about?
[04:46] <Slaughterer> hi, i need help
[04:46] <noelferreira> acrobat reader
[04:46] <CrakeHunter> heh how cool is that
[04:46] <noelferreira> soundray:
[04:46] <soundray> noelferreira: what about it?
[04:46] <Slaughterer> Ubuntu doesn't seem to mount my SATA NTFS HDD
[04:46] <Slaughterer> it shows up in the Device manager, but not under Computer
[04:47] <noelferreira> there's no acrobat reader for linux systems
[04:47] <ahmaru2> hey guy... how to get rid of firefox... i tryed to remove it but then error 127 occured
[04:47] <soundray> noelferreira: you are wrong
[04:47] <soundray> !acroread | noelferreira
[04:47] <ubotu> noelferreira: acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:47] <JaMiNkLe-> does ubuntu come with a vnc installed
[04:48] <soundray> JaMiNkLe-: yes, you can share the main desktop by default (System-Preferences-Remote Desktop)
[04:48] <noelferreira> edgy won't use it anymore
[04:48] <noelferreira> i don't have that package
[04:48] <atomiku-linux> How can I get Enemy Territory to use a different sound device like AOSS so I can have sound on ET and XMMS?
[04:48] <CrakeHunter> uh just tried to install java from the repositories... and i got this: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:49] <soundray> noelferreira: you have to enable multiverse and you have to be on i386
[04:49] <soundray> noelferreira: and let me point out that your reaction to slight's advice was incredibly rude
[04:49] <noelferreira> ah ok
[04:49] <ahmaru2> hey guy... how to get rid of firefox... i tryed to remove it but then error 127 occured
[04:49] <noelferreira> i'm in amd64
[04:50] <noelferreira> that's it
[04:50] <noelferreira> sorry
[04:50] <bulmer> CrakeHunter:  E:  ? you're in windows?
[04:50] <CrakeHunter> heh, no!
[04:50] <CrakeHunter> ubuntu :D
[04:50] <soundray> noelferreira: the forums have advice on how to install acroread32 on amd64. Look for user Kilz.
[04:50] <CrakeHunter> dunno E: is for error i guess
[04:51] <Slaughterer> soundray: could you please help me
[04:51] <Slaughterer> ?
[04:51] <ahmaru2> nobody knows about this bastard error 127
[04:51] <soundray> Slaughterer: only if it's quick, have to pick up the wife ;)
[04:51] <Slaughterer> can i PVT you ?
[04:52] <soundray> Slaughterer: oh, I see. Try 'sudo fdisk -l' and see if your NTFS partition is listed
[04:52] <soundray> Slaughterer: if it is, follow ubotu:
[04:53] <soundray> !ntfs | Slaughterer
[04:53] <ubotu> Slaughterer: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:53] <deft> hello
[04:53] <soundray> Slaughterer: if it isn't, then you have the problem that I came here to ask about.
[04:53] <atari_> !netgear
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netgear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <soundray> Slaughterer: hope that helps, really have to go now.
[04:53] <bulmer> CrakeHunter:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:53] <Slaughterer> k thanx :)
[04:53] <atari_> !wlan
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <atari_> !wireless
[04:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <Slaughterer> ubotu: it is not a partition, it is another hard drive
[04:54] <deft> !upgrade
[04:54] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:54] <Slaughterer> using 'sudo fdisk -l' displays the hard drive
[04:54] <Slaughterer> but i'm unable to see it under computer
[04:55] <ahmaru2> ubotu can you help me again? about this error 127
[04:55] <CrakeHunter> thx, unfortunately my java-crossword riddle, still doesnt load, after installing the java-plugin package
[04:56] <Kaso> the filesystem on my root partition seems to have become damaged, is there anything i can do other than format and reinstall ?
[04:56] <furryballs> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2149854#post2149854
[04:56] <seraphim> !fsck
[04:56] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[04:57] <atomiku-linux> How can I get Enemy Territory to use a different sound device like AOSS so I can have ET and XMMS both playing sound at the same time?
[04:57] <vasco> hi
[04:57] <dsquare> what is the best game for ubuntu dapper drake 6.06????
[04:57] <Cryoniq> Oh great.. todays update for 6.10 messed up beryl for me. Cant move windows at all grabbing them, no icons in corners to maximize or minimize them etc.. anyone else experienced this problem?
[04:57] <vasco> i've just installed ubuntu
[04:57] <seraphim> dsquare: supertux! ;D
[04:57] <atomiku-linux> dsquare: Enemy Territory
[04:57] <dsquare> cool vasco are you excited?!!?
[04:57] <GaiaX11> How long will i get updates for dapper? Because I am still getting it :-)
[04:58] <vasco> but i,ve the following problem: when 1 boot form hdd, sound doesn't work
[04:58] <dsquare> lol ok ill check them out.
[04:58] <ahmaru2> nobody can help me about this firefox thing?
[04:58] <HymnToLife> GaiaX11, 3 years
[04:58] <seraphim> dsquare: nexuiz is cool too
[04:58] <vasco> when i'm booting from cdrom, sound just works
[04:58] <ahmaru2> because if i can not remove it I can not install epiphany neather
[04:58] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: What method are you using to remove?
[04:58] <GaiaX11> HymnToLife: :-)
[04:58] <ahmaru2> because if i can not remove it I can not install epiphany neather
[04:58] <padlefot> cheers, I some help, I'm using ubuntu for six computers at a sporting event, so people can see the scores from the games on my website. Whats the best way of restricting the OS/Internet to just one web-area??
[04:59] <ahmaru2> come on!
[04:59] <padlefot> *need
[04:59] <vasco> i've used freebsd for 1.5 year, but i'm impressed by the neat gnome stuff
[04:59] <vasco> and synaptic is great
[04:59] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: What method are you using to remove firefox?
[05:00] <vasco> but when my sound wouldn't work, i'll switch back to freebsd
[05:00] <padlefot> any way of making restrictions on internet use, in say Firefox?
[05:00] <JaMiNkLe-> ok my resolution is 1680x1050 and the refresh rate is 60 :\ i cant change any of them and my screen if flickering like crazy any idea how i can get the rez down?
[05:00] <vasco> i'm using a ich4 soundzut
[05:01] <ahmaru2> jfanaial from upgrade manager
[05:01] <noodles12> using anjuta 2.0.2, 1) how do u make teh automake plugin active all the time? i have to reselect it everytime i start anjuta?
[05:01] <ahmaru2> and the resolution uo? my prob too
[05:01] <variant> padlefot: use a firewall, i reccomend firestarter
[05:02] <ahmaru2> and the resolution up? my prob too
[05:02] <ahmaru2> JFANAIAL from upgrade manager
[05:02] <variant> padlefot: and close all ports by default, then open http port only and only allow it to the ip address of the website you wish to be accesable
[05:02] <ahmaru2> JFANAIAL anyother method?
[05:03] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: try apt-get remove firefox on the terminal
[05:03] <ahmaru2> ok
[05:03] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: You'll have to be patient with me, I'm at work and trying to type so I can't look at this window all that often
[05:03] <variant> padlefot: did you see my comment?
[05:05] <ahmaru2> jfanaial... dont warry thanks because you can help me
[05:06] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: Did apt-get remove work?
[05:06] <JaMiNkLe-> my resolution is 1680x1050 and the refresh rate is 60 i cant change any of them and my screen if flickering
[05:06] <ahmaru2> jafanaial: E: Impossibile aprire il file di lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:06] <ahmaru2> E: Impossibile creare un lock sulla directory di list
[05:06] <unop> vasco,  what did you make of debian/ubuntu after the switch over from BSD? is it daunting? is it easy? are you totally lost? are you comfortable? etc
[05:06] <ahmaru2> jfanaial. no
[05:06] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: Use sudo apt-get remove firefox
[05:07] <unop> vasco,  I've just got a spare machine to play with and put fbsd6.2 on it, and i'm hopelessly lost :)
[05:07] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: You'll have to type in your password as well
[05:07] <ahave> does ubuntu come with a bittorrent manger that has a command line interface, ie able to be used on a server?
[05:08] <zyth> unop, the freebsd handbook = the best thing ever.
[05:08] <unop> zyth,  yea but it doesnt encompass everything -- especially what i need for the puddle i am in at the time :)
[05:09] <Baronvonbarbeque> ok, looks like i need to find a pluggin to get my mp3's to work. any advice?
[05:09] <ahave> Baronvonbarbeque, xmms
[05:09] <unop> !w32codecs | Baronvonbarbeque
[05:09] <ubotu> Baronvonbarbeque: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:10] <unop> !mp3 | Baronvonbarbeque
[05:10] <ubotu> Baronvonbarbeque: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <vasco> unop, i'm a bit loss, my sound is'nt working anymore
[05:10] <unop> vasco, would you happen to have multiple sound cards -- one onboard maybe?
[05:10] <ahmaru2> jfanaial i did it but didnt work: ahmaru2@devrim:~$ sudo apt-get remove firefox
[05:10] <ahmaru2> Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
[05:10] <ahmaru2> Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto
[05:10] <ahmaru2> Il pacchetto firefox non  installato, quindi non  stato rimosso
[05:10] <ahmaru2>  consigliabile eseguire 'apt-get -f install' per correggere questi problemi:
[05:10] <ahmaru2> I seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:
[05:10] <ahmaru2>   mozilla-firefox-locale-it: Dipende: firefox ma non sta per essere installato oppure
[05:10] <ahmaru2>                                       language-support-it ma non sta per essere installato
[05:10] <ahmaru2> E: Dipendenze non soddisfatte. Provare 'apt-get -f install' senza pacchetti (o specificare una soluzione).
[05:10] <ahmaru2> ahmaru2@devrim:~$ apt-get remove firefox
[05:10] <padlefot> cheers, I need some help, I'm using ubuntu for six computers at a sporting event, so people can see the scores from the games on my website. Whats the best way of restricting the OS/Internet to just one web-area??
[05:10] <ahmaru2> E: Impossibile aprire il file di lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:10] <ahmaru2> E: Impossibile creare un lock sulla directory di list
[05:10] <unop> !ops
[05:10] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:11] <Enselic``> Does anyone know of a laptop brand with good linux compability?
[05:11] <vasco> unop,oneboard stuff ac97, ich4 driver
[05:11] <padlefot> any way of making restrictions for internet use in firefox? say to only one specific web area? Im using Firefox with Ubuntu Linux
[05:11] <unop> vasco,  use the asoundconf utility -- i think asoundconf list
[05:11] <Lunar_Lamp> Enselic``, IBM traditionally does. System76 sells laptops with linux preinstalled./
[05:12] <Dr_willis> padlefot,   you could set up iptables rules, or check out some of the koisk mode plugins i guess
[05:12] <Cryoniq> Anyone with beryl where windows after last updates arent able to be moved, and no themes?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> padlefot,  or your own dns server/ or proxy
[05:12] <noelferreira> i people. how can i open a .fdf file with evince?
[05:12] <LjL> !beryl > Cryoniq    (Cryoniq, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:12] <infidel_> padlefot, you could use a proxy server and just allow that url
[05:12] <seraphim> padlefot: i would set up a router with shorewall
[05:12] <JaMiNkLe-> how can i force a resolution
[05:12] <ewaloe> hi people
[05:12] <Lunar_Lamp> Enselic``, there's several places on the internet that will sell laptops with linux pre-installed.
[05:13] <Enselic``> Lunar_Lamp: I'm not looking for preinstalled ones, just those with good drivers etc
[05:13] <Enselic``> Lunar_Lamp: the one I have now is not very good
[05:13] <padlefot> Dr_willis, infidel_; would it be hard to configure a proxy server? I have some network experience..
[05:13] <atomiku-linux> How can I get Enemy Territory to use a different sound device like AOSS so I can have ET and XMMS both playing sound at the same time?
[05:13] <oxigen> http://masterplanthemovie.com
[05:13] <Dr_willis> padlefot,  proberly not. :)  but it depends on how locked down/paranoid you want to be i guess.
[05:13] <infidel_> padlefot, it's not hard to setup
[05:13] <vasco> unop, hmm, sound was muted :(, i'll reboot my machine without noapci
[05:13] <vasco> brb
[05:13] <Lunar_Lamp> Enselic``, well, IBM would be a good place to start looking though http://www.linux-laptop.net/ might be a place to look for compatibility of a model you like.
[05:14] <padlefot> Dr_willis; hehe.. im not sure yet
[05:14] <Dr_willis> atomiku-linux,  check the command line optionms for the game.. its so old. it may not have many sound options
[05:14] <Lunar_Lamp> Enselic``, or here: http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html
[05:14] <padlefot> infidel_: tips&tricks?
[05:14] <padlefot> should i use Ubuntu, or would XP be easier?
[05:14] <padlefot> i have a ton of old computers donated to me
[05:15] <atomiku-linux> Dr_willis: i dont believe it does.
[05:15] <infidel_> padlefot, i would use linux, i'm assuming that all the pc's are networked together right?
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[05:15] <deft> im upgrading to the 6.10 now.. wish me luck
[05:15] <Enselic``> Lunar_Lamp: ill take a look, thanks
[05:15] <JaMiNkLe-> ok google says i gotta edit x11 to force a resolution... anyone wanna tell me how
[05:15] <padlefot> infidel_: correct
[05:15] <LjL> !fixres > JaMiNkLe-    (JaMiNkLe-, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:15] <LjL> !xconfig > JaMiNkLe-    (JaMiNkLe-, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:15] <vasco> joj, sound is working now
[05:16] <Lunar_Lamp> !ops
[05:16] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[05:16] <LjL> Lunar_Lamp: ?
[05:16] <Lunar_Lamp> felicia5, spamming
[05:16] <LjL> oh
[05:16] <Lunar_Lamp> Thankyou LjL :-)
[05:16] <geem> heh
[05:17] <padlefot> anybody tried out Anon Proxy server?
[05:17] <geem> so freenode is a no services server?
[05:17] <geem> like efnet?
[05:17] <LjL> geem: ?
[05:17] <geem> yes
[05:17] <atomiku-linux> it does
[05:17] <LjL> geem:  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LjL
[05:17] <Dr_willis> JaMiNkLe-,  you may want to research your actual problem more befor editing the xorg.conf file.
[05:17] <atomiku-linux> anope or something
[05:18] <geem> oh
[05:18] <geem> anope
[05:18] <geem> yes
[05:18] <geem> so unlike efnet sorry
[05:18] <atomiku-linux> somewhat modified
[05:18] <atomiku-linux> it hink
[05:18] <geem> i see
[05:18] <atomiku-linux> *I think
[05:18] <geem> i believe it
[05:18] <Kaso> is there anyway i can stop ctrl c from closing Xchat, i keep accidently pressing it :<
[05:18] <geem> i own a pc store
[05:18] <geem> been trying to get a new server up
[05:18] <geem> the ubuntu machine
[05:18] <bjorn> I'm running a dual boot with ubuntu and suse. Currently suse is controlling my grub (as I understand it). Before removing suse therefore I would like to put ubuntu back in control. Anyone know a good way of doing this?
[05:19] <JaMiNkLe-> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh ahh thats what i was looking for
[05:19] <geem> all i got to do is fig out permissions to modify apache2 folder
[05:19] <Enselic``> Is there a place to globally set bigger fonts? including in apps?
[05:19] <geem> sweet
[05:19] <atomiku-linux> Kaso: lol use mirc on wine or something
[05:19] <geem> i am getting out thru the router and everything now
[05:19] <Kaso> ha
[05:19] <unop> bjorn,  install and configure grub within ubuntu
[05:19] <Dr_willis> bjorn,  read the grub docs/web site - and check that ubuntu has the proper grub configs, then rerun the grub-install script
[05:19] <atomiku-linux> im currently on mirc right now, using wine
[05:19] <atomiku-linux> its pretty good
[05:19] <Skew-_> how do i list a folder on my desktop? i tried: ls ~/desktop/school but it didn't work
[05:20] <Dr_willis> atomiku-linux,  thats sick in soooo many ways.
[05:20] <atomiku-linux> capital D?
[05:20] <geem> home use
[05:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:20] <geem> user
[05:20] <bjorn> unop and Dr_willis, thanks
[05:20] <infidel_> padlefot, this might help http://schools.coe.ru.ac.za/wiki/Configuring_transparent_proxy
[05:20] <ahmaru2> I am sorry :-(
[05:20] <unop> Skew-_,  ls ~/Desktop/school
[05:20] <geem> desktop
[05:20] <atomiku-linux> Skew-_:capital D
[05:20] <Skew-_> is the terminal case sensitive?
[05:20] <atomiku-linux> yes
[05:20] <Skew-_> ooh
[05:20] <Skew-_> thanks
[05:20] <atomiku-linux> :P
[05:20] <unop> Skew-_,  you can always tab complete ~/D<Tab> ...
[05:20] <Crescendo> How can I force close an application without the command line?
[05:20] <geem> so i am a bit lost
[05:20] <unop> Skew-_,  everything on nix should be assumed to be case sensitive
[05:20] <ahmaru2> it is just since this morning that i try to make ububntu working but after 7 hours i couldn manage...
[05:20] <geem> do i have to do edits thru the terminal window
[05:20] <geem> ?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Crescendo,  make a script to run xkill and make an icon for it.
[05:21] <geem> i cant log on as root
[05:21] <geem> ?
[05:21] <unop> geem, try this command - sudo -s
[05:21] <Dr_willis> !entyer
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about entyer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <Skew-_> yay it worked, thanks the help
[05:21] <LjL> Crescendo: try gnome-system-monitor perhaps, it should be somewhere in the menu
[05:21] <Dr_willis> !enter
[05:21] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:21] <Crescendo> Dr_willis, so I can't CTRL+SHIFT click the window and then kill it.... :/
[05:21] <EdgEy> is there a package to add rar support to fileroller
[05:21] <geem> whats that do?
[05:21] <Crescendo> LjL, yeah, I just can't figure out waht program it is
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Crescendo,  there are some window managers with some features lijke that i guess.. never tried.
[05:21] <Crescendo> It's two "deleting files" windows
[05:21] <geem> unop
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Crescendo,  i just use a terminal and xkill.
[05:21] <unop> EdgEy,  afaik, it uses it if you install rar and unrar
[05:21] <Crescendo> And they're just hanging there
[05:22] <Crescendo> I don't know what program they are, though
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Crescendo,  or use the terminal and the 'kill' command.
[05:22] <unop> geem,  sudo -s  gives you a root terminal there
[05:22] <EdgEy> thanks unop, i'll try that
[05:22] <geem> yes
[05:22] <geem> but then
[05:22] <Crescendo> How can I find out what program they are?
[05:22] <unop> !enter | geem
[05:22] <ubotu> geem: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:22] <geem> i  have to edit the file in terminal window?
[05:22] <EdgEy> yep seems to work. :)
[05:22] <geem> or make the switch?
[05:22] <LjL> Crescendo: can't help sorry, i'm on KDE
[05:22] <Crescendo> LjL, s'okay. :/
[05:23] <unop> geem,  please try and keep all your conversation on one long line like this so that people can keep track of it :)
[05:23] <geem> yes i am sorry
[05:23] <Crescendo> How can I figure out what program a certain window is in GNOME?
[05:23] <unop> geem,  you can use your favourite editor -- try typing  gedit in the root terminal
[05:23] <geem> ok
[05:24] <geem> i already got locked out of the other machine my messing with permissions
[05:24] <LjL> Crescendo: i don't know -- but i've previously tried to find out about that, and i couldn't find an answer. so perhaps it just can't be done
[05:24] <geem> thanks
[05:24] <Crescendo> LjL, Linux fails on the simple things, yet again. :/  Though, I'm a Linux fan, and I use it as my personal computer.  It's little things like this that make it an irritation
[05:25] <ntbnnt> hey, quick question, i try to makefile and get "/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-686/build" no such dir, any suggests?
[05:25] <LjL> Crescendo: well, why do you need to know that, anyway?
[05:25] <LjL> Crescendo: to know which program to kill?
[05:26] <Crescendo> LjL, a "deleting files" window or two hung.
[05:26] <xfab> hi there
[05:26] <Galego_Kun> hi
[05:26] <LjL> Crescendo: if you just click on the Close button a couple of times, won't a dialog come up asking if you want to terminate it? in KDE, it's like that
[05:26] <Crescendo> LjL, nope - clicked the X button for many many times, nothing, no force quit window
[05:26] <LjL> Crescendo: there's probably also some panel applet called "killsomething" or similar, that allows you to just click on a window and have the app killed, IIRC
[05:26] <Galego_Kun> how can i chosse channels?
[05:27] <LjL> (which would mean, on second thoghts, that there *is* a way to know what process a window belongs to..)
[05:27] <unop> Crescendo,  well, its just the constraints of your environment and circumstances -- a driver who just got a ferrari after driving a beemer for 10 years is going to say "wow, i love this .. but errm, i wish i could go from A to B or pull more birds" .. it's all an art, a know-how, a lifestyle, etc and it all comes in time :)
[05:27] <ahmaru2> hi... today everybody is hungry with me bacause i am here since this morning trying to make ubuntu 5.10 working on my laptop but i cant.... can anybody help me?
[05:27] <LjL> !away > Pic|Away    (Pic|Away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:27] <JaMiNkLe-> ok so i restarted x now i am just at some screen with a blinking _
[05:27] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: Why are you using 5.1?
[05:27] <JaMiNkLe-> for about 5 mins
[05:27] <xfab> I've got a little question about kernel kompiling
[05:27] <jfanaia1> ahmaru2: Just curiosity =\ lol
[05:27] <Crescendo> unop, Ubuntu's goal is freedom - and while I'd like to also point out Torvalds' goal of ruling the world - it isn't going to happen, ever, when simple functions aren't available.
[05:28] <Crescendo> Easily, at least
[05:28] <unop> Crescendo,  what "simplicity" are you seeking?
[05:28] <xfab> I've compiled a kernel on ubuntu Breezy and tried to start it, but right after the start, the booting stops
[05:28] <Crescendo> unop, the ability to close a window
[05:28] <xfab> what have I done wrong?
[05:29] <unop> Crescendo,  xkill and point in window :)
[05:29] <Galego_Kun> hi
[05:29] <unop> Crescendo,  point and click, i.e.
[05:29] <unop> Crescendo,  and it wasnt just torvalds who got the phenomenon of GNU/Linux going .. he was just one of the many thousands
[05:29] <ahmaru2> jfanaial because i got this cd I am in turkey, so it is difficoult to get 6.10 cd and I can not dawnload the upgrade from the upgrade thing, this is one of the 3 programs i cant solve since this morning
[05:30] <xfab> I someone here, who's good at kompiling kernels?
[05:30] <xfab> *is
[05:30] <Cyrus25801> i am having problems with firefox. it is haning and after 5 min it comes right then hangs again.
[05:30] <Crescendo> Yeah, so I'm going to just reload GNOME to make these windows go away.
[05:30] <Crescendo> :/
[05:30] <Crescendo> Apparently Windows has a "Switch To" feature in their system monitor
[05:31] <Crescendo> :/
[05:31] <xfab> Cyrus25801: you've tried to reinstall firefox?
[05:32] <unop> I dont crescendo actually checked the gnome-system-monitor close up
[05:32] <xfab> does anybody hear me? test
[05:32] <PriceChild> xfab, hey
[05:32] <xfab> was just a test ^^
[05:33] <Cyrus25801> xfab: ok any other ideas
[05:33] <JaMiNkLe-> how do i start x from shell
[05:33] <LjL> JaMiNkLe-: startx
[05:33] <xfab> PriceChild: hey there ^
[05:33] <unop> JaMiNkLe-,  gksudo gdm
[05:33] <xfab> Cyrus25801: didn't work?
[05:33] <LjL> JaMiNkLe-: or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart, if you want the login screen
[05:33] <LjL> unop: eeew, why not start it with the proper script? :P
[05:34] <unop> LjL,  it's effectively the same thing :p
[05:34] <JaMiNkLe-> heh they both dont work
[05:34] <jfanaia1> I don't know what to try anymore, my wireless is not showing up in ifconfig but ndiswrapper says it is loaded. When I do lsmod ndiswrapper shows up on there too. What else could I try?
[05:34] <unop> JaMiNkLe-,  do you use kubuntu?
[05:34] <JaMiNkLe-> gksudo gdm says cant open display
[05:34] <JaMiNkLe-> ubuntu
[05:34] <LjL> JaMiNkLe-: then your xorg.conf is broken i guess
[05:34] <Mena> How to play 3gp files
[05:35] <seraphim> is the nvidia-driver /module problem fixed?
[05:35] <unop> JaMiNkLe-,  did you try - sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart  ?
[05:35] <xfab> Mena: you tried mplayer?
[05:35] <Mena> yes
[05:35] <Mena> didnt work
[05:35] <xfab> Mena: otherwise you could use realplayer, I'm quite sure, that it supports this format
[05:35] <JaMiNkLe-> yeah
[05:35] <unop> jfanaia1,  you sure its not listed -- ifconfig -a
[05:35] <facugaich> Mena: google "play 3gp ubuntu" and you'll get some tuts
[05:35] <JaMiNkLe-> ill try detect the gfx again
[05:35] <Cyrus25801> xfab: will try and get back to you
[05:36] <xfab> Cyrus25801: ok
[05:36] <s0undt3ch> while trying to compile my kernel I keep getting /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: File format not recognized
[05:36] <Svish> !mjpeg
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mjpeg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <Mena> xfab, okay
[05:36] <unop> JaMiNkLe-,  are you installing something like nvidia or ati drivers?
[05:36] <ahmaru2> anybody know how to increase monitor resolution?
[05:36] <xfab> Is anybody here, who could help me with my kernel building problem?
[05:36] <Mena> facugaich, okay
[05:36] <s0undt3ch> xfab: what's your prob? like mine?
[05:36] <xfab> ahmaru2: yes, 1. install proper drivers
[05:36] <unop> ahmaru2,  gnome-display-properties
[05:36] <JaMiNkLe-> no.. i just installed ubuntu and my resoslution was crazy
[05:36] <morgWork> *yawn*
[05:37] <morgWork> sup guys
[05:37] <lanny> ol
[05:37] <unop> JaMiNkLe-,  do you know what changes you've made?
[05:37] <xfab> ahmaru2: then Settings -> Monitor Resolution
[05:37] <seraphim> is the nvidia-driver /module problem fixed?
[05:37] <|rms|> gOLdenHaWK3D, hey man
[05:37] <gsyfjrm> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:37] <Svish> guess I shouldnt ask programming questions here.. where should I do that?
[05:37] <ahmaru2> xfab where is gnome?
[05:38] <morgWork> anyone know how to get apt-get install libnss-ldap to NOT prompt for configuration? -y, -qq, and --force-yes don't seem to have much effect.
[05:38] <xfab> ahmaru2: you've installed ubuntu right?
[05:38] <unop> Svish,  well, whats the matter, we can direct you on if we know
[05:38] <JaMiNkLe-> even sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart dies
[05:38] <jrib> Svish: ##c for c, #python for python, etc...
[05:38] <xfab> ahmaru2: the windowmanager you're using is called gnome then
[05:38] <finalbeta> How do I start a bash file non blocking? I mean ./test.sh will block until executed. In windows I could use start. what can I use in bash?
[05:39] <jrib> finalbeta: append &
[05:39] <xfab> ahmaru2: you just got to go to System -> Settings -> Monitor Resolution
[05:39] <unop> finalbeta,  send it to the background --
[05:39] <finalbeta> damn, right. I knew that :p.
[05:39] <ntbnnt> wooo
[05:39] <finalbeta> lols, converting is confusing. thnx
[05:39] <aoupi> a question about background, if I hit ctrl+z will the app continue running or will it pause untill I bring it up again?
[05:39] <xfab> could someone help me with my kernel problem? (booting freezes right after the start)
[05:40] <lanny> ol galera
[05:40] <madprobe> gOLdenHaWK3D, hey man
[05:40] <jrib> aoupi: pause, but you can use the 'bg' command to resume it in the background.  Google for "shell job control linux"
[05:40] <aoupi> jrib: oh didn't know about 'bg', thanks
[05:40] <jrib> aoupi: 'jobs' and 'fg' are two other usefull ones...
[05:40] <lanny> oiiii
[05:41] <aoupi> jrib: yea I know them, 'jobs -l' was very useful to get the PID when I didn't know about fg :)
[05:41] <monitor_> ol pesoal
[05:41] <ahmaru2> xfab... ah ok :-) but where is diplay... sorry but i am using the italian version...
[05:42] <jrib> aoupi: to work with jobs you don't need PID btw, you can refer to them with job numbers.  Like  fg %2  will foreground job 2
[05:42] <gh0st> hey, how can i SYNCHRONISE two folders (while the first folder isn't changed, but the second is updated so that it's exactly like the first)?
[05:42] <xfab> ahmaru2: what you mean exactely by display? ^
[05:42] <aoupi> jrib: I see
[05:42] <xfab> ^^
[05:42] <bjdiei> How reliable is upgrading to Breezy to Dapper?
[05:43] <ahmaru2> xfab if it is the window called monitor resolution I would like to change it more then this...
[05:43] <jrib> bjdiei: wfm fine, but you should always have backups anyway.  It can be 99.99% reliable but you still don't want to be taht .01% and not have backups
[05:43] <ahmaru2> xfab you wrote this gnome-display-properties
[05:43] <NewNeo> #ubuntu-it
[05:43] <NewNeo> sorry
[05:43] <NewNeo> :
[05:44] <fr0g> hello people
[05:44] <xfab> could someone help me with my kernel problem, please?
[05:45] <padlefot> any good proxy servers (with GUI) in linux?
[05:45] <JaMiNkLe-> ahhhh it wont redetect my gfx just keeps taking me back to the reconfi screen
[05:45] <adinsx> jesus this is a crowded channel!
[05:46] <ntbnnt> xfab: what's up
[05:46] <arphetic> Hiya, since today I have some strange error on Azureus, http://paste.debian.net/21861 for the error logfile thing. What should I do?
[05:46] <padlefot> what I really meant was is there any good proxy servers in the ubunbu resps?
[05:47] <xfab> hey ntbnnt
[05:47] <xfab> ntbnnt: I try to solve my kernel building problem
[05:47] <ntbnnt> xfab: what's goin' on in your box
[05:48] <kmaynard> padlefot, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=proxy&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[05:48] <adinsx> I have a simple problem with Gnome in Ubuntu, but im not sure how to phrase it.  I would like to set Gnome so that it dosn't animate windows until i select a place to move them to
[05:48] <kmaynard> padlefot, squid and tinyproxy are good
[05:48] <adinsx> im using open source drivers and the animation isnt smooth
[05:49] <bjdiei> Anyone here have experience upgrading breezy to Dapper?
[05:49] <kmaynard> been a long time
[05:49] <ntbnnt> kmaynard: have you played with just the desktop prefs
[05:49] <NetCruZa> Just installed Compiz, and it works great... But I can't get gnome-compiz-preferences to work, whenever i try to run it i get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5586/
[05:49] <variant> adinsx: what graphics card is it?
[05:49] <adinsx> Mobility radeon 9000, isn't covered by the proprietary ati drivers
[05:49] <kmaynard> ntbnnt, huh?
[05:49] <adinsx> they probably wouldnt work much better, its 3d accelerated atleast
[05:49] <xfab> ntbnnt: I'm using v6.10 ubuntu, kernel-version 2.6.17 (ubuntu)
[05:49] <adinsx> it would just be nice if it would only animate windows when i find a place ot move them to
[05:49] <ntbnnt> kmaynard: what animations are you wanting to disable
[05:50] <variant> adinsx: strange, i have a radeon 7000 igp with the open drivers and it works very smoothly
[05:50] <variant> adinsx: you are using aiglx right?
[05:50] <kmaynard> ntbnnt, none, i never said anything about animations
[05:50] <adinsx> its pretty smooth dont get me wrong
[05:50] <xfab> ntbnnt: I kompiled everything and added the kernel with dpkg
[05:50] <variant> adinsx: and edgy not dapper?
[05:50] <padlefot> cheers, I need some help, I'm using ubuntu for six computers at a sporting event, so people can see the scores from the games on my website. Whats the best way of restricting the OS/Internet to just one web-area??
[05:50] <ntbnnt> xfab: yea, but whats the problem
[05:50] <adinsx> um, im not sure how would i check
[05:50] <adinsx> 6.10
[05:50] <variant> yeah edgy
[05:50] <ntbnnt> kmaynard: my bad, i must have read wrong :(
[05:50] <xfab> ntbnnt: after I tried to boot the new kernel and it crashed right after I select it in grub
[05:50] <padlefot> anybody formiliar for approx?
[05:50] <Hub441> did anyone manage to boot the xubunut-cd via network/pxe?
[05:50] <kmaynard> np
[05:51] <ntbnnt> xfab: you got another kernel to boot to?
[05:51] <padlefot> or the anon-proxy server?
[05:51] <xfab> ntbnnt: there is also some text, before it crashes, but I can't read it, it's to fast
[05:51] <variant> adinsx: I have only really used beryl.. it has a settings manager. I don't know how compiz handles that sort of thing
[05:51] <xfab> ntbnnt: yea, I've got my standart ubuntu kernel
[05:51] <adinsx> i followed a guide to get the radeon drivers installed and they work pretty well
[05:51] <adinsx> beryl?
[05:51] <xfab> I logged in with this one actually
[05:51] <adinsx> hmm
[05:51] <variant> adinsx: an alternative to compiz
[05:51] <ntbnnt> xfab: for the text, you could try your system pause button - works on some comps
[05:51] <adinsx> im not familar with either of those, lemme look them up really quick
[05:51] <variant> adinsx: if you are using radoen 9000 then you already hav ethe drivers installed.. you shouldnt have to follow a guid
[05:52] <kmaynard> padlefot, are you looking for an anonymizer or something?
[05:52] <ntbnnt> xfab: try getting to that GRUB menu and boot to a previous kernel
[05:52] <variant> adinsx: please show me what guide you followed to isntall the driver
[05:52] <bjdiei> jrib: Have you done an upgrade in Ubuntu?
[05:52] <xfab> ntbnnt: i can't see an error, just the splashscreen with a little bit orange in it
[05:52] <adinsx> um, i dont remember, it was in the official ubuntu wiki i think
[05:52] <xfab> ntbnnt:  if this helps you
[05:52] <variant> padlefot: I already told you how to do it but you ignored me
[05:52] <ntbnnt> xfab: hmmm, have you done a reinstall
[05:52] <xfab> ntbnnt: I booted the previous kernel, it's all working, just the new one isn't
[05:52] <yann__> join #debian-mirror
[05:53] <ntbnnt> okay
[05:53] <xfab> ntbnnt: I'm writing from this machine to you
[05:53] <fiftykps> can someone please tell me how to change the default runlevel of ubuntu 6.10 workstation install, now that the /etc/inittab file is gone?
[05:53] <adinsx> 2
[05:53] <adinsx> i believe
[05:53] <ntbnnt> xfab: go with the previous one
[05:53] <xfab> ntbnnt: but I wanted to kompile a kernel that is more efficient
[05:53] <ntbnnt> xfab: err, ubuntu doesn't like custom kernels
[05:53] <xfab> ntbnnt: that's why I wanted to compile one
[05:53] <adinsx> also ya i thought i was just crazy or i was remembeing wrong... why did they get rid of the inittab file :(
[05:53] <variant> padlefot: you don't need a proxy server. just use your firewall as i described. if you don't have a firewall then install firestarter (apt-get install firestarter) and block all ports accept http
[05:54] <xfab> ntbnnt: sure?
[05:54] <variant> padlefot: and also only allow http to that one site
[05:54] <adinsx> oh im pretty sure my xwindow system isnt hardware accelerated, i should check this out
[05:54] <adinsx> (looking at compiz wiki right now)
[05:54] <variant> adinsx: it is
[05:54] <adinsx> o
[05:54] <xfab> ntbnnt: is there a reason why ubuntu doesn't like customs?
[05:54] <ntbnnt> xfab: im sure, tried myself several times and even let someone ssh my box and try
[05:54] <variant> adinsx: run glxinfo | grep direct
[05:54] <adinsx> k
[05:54] <xfab> ntbnnt:  I see
[05:54] <ntbnnt> xfab: it's just ubuntu
[05:54] <variant> adinsx: your looking for a "yes"
[05:55] <xfab> ntbnnt: on Gentoo the kernel I compiled worked pretty good
[05:55] <xfab> but that was on another pc
[05:55] <adinsx> got a yes
[05:55] <ntbnnt> xfab: stock kernels for ubuntu isn't soo bad
[05:55] <variant> adinsx: then you have 3d accelleration
[05:55] <Wanderer> anyone know how to make a system renew it's dhcp lease any time a network cable is unplugged and re-plugged?
[05:55] <xfab> ntbnnt: but it's a bit slow I thought
[05:55] <ntbnnt> xfab: werid things like touchscreen for compaq computers are enabled, but hey
[05:55] <s0undt3ch> dam, why am I getting /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: File format not recognized
[05:55] <adinsx> but is the gnome using it to animate the desktop?  I have 3d acceleration on my windows machine but it dosnt use it for the desktop
[05:55] <LjL> fiftykps: you can still use /etc/inittab for setting the default runlevel. that's the only think that inittab is checked for. there's probably a "better" way though
[05:55] <LjL> !upstart
[05:55] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:55] <s0undt3ch> with make menuconfig!?!?!?
[05:55] <xfab>  ntbnnt yea ^^
[05:56] <Svish> jrib: trying to find out how I can program a tool in c or java that merges jpegs into a mjpeg
[05:56] <_Freedom0_> Hello
[05:56] <LjL> fiftykps: let me find the script that checks for the inittab default runlevel...
[05:56] <xfab> ntbnnt: support for a toshiba laptop :P
[05:56] <ntbnnt> xfab: you might just go with dstraight debian, it loves customs and
[05:56] <fiftykps> LjL: thank you
[05:56] <IVANWEJAR> hola
[05:56] <ntbnnt> xfab: you almost need a custom to work in debian
[05:56] <_Freedom0_> could someone help me with downlloading cvs files as i cant connect via my modem
[05:57] <xfab> ntbnnt: how do you mean exactely?
[05:57] <jtinney> I've been having some trouble with the nvidia drivers and X, I didn't in Dapper, but now I get an error on start up after i install nvidia-glx and then run nvidia-xconfig, that itself yields no errors, it successfully modifies xorg.conf and even has the driver name as 'nvidia', but x will not start and i have to resort to a backup
[05:57] <xfab> ntbnnt: is it otherwise so slow?
[05:57] <lolman> Bit of help needed, I have 2 rather small hard disks (a 3.2GB and a 4.3GB) and want to combine them, either using LVM or software RAID. I was just wondering: how would I get such a partition booting?
[05:57] <jtinney> i'm looking for some 3d support, because even dragging windows and scrolling is very jerky
[05:57] <LjL> fiftykps: the file is /etc/event.d/rc-default -- if you look at it, you'll see that it just greps for "initdefault" in inittab and, if it's there, uses "telinit" to set the runlevel..
[05:58] <ntbnnt> xfab: well, not really, but you will run into strange errors and some boards just don't like debain
[05:58] <fiftykps> ok, cool, thanks
[05:58] <_Freedom0_> could someone help me with downlloading cvs files as i cant connect via my modem i need it from this :cvs -d:ext:anoncvs@cvs.infradead.org:/home/cvs co -D 2006-01-17 usbatm
[05:58] <xfab> ntbnnt: hmm... that sounds like a lot of problems ^^
[05:59] <ntbnnt> xfab: that's y im on ubuntu now
[05:59] <xfab> ntbnnt: but thank you anyway
[05:59] <xfab> ntbnnt:  I see :)
[05:59] <ntbnnt> xfab: ubuntu is nice, and its debain based
[05:59] <_Freedom0_> ?
[05:59] <variant> adinsx: as you said before, you are using compiz so yes
[05:59] <variant> i'm offski
[06:00] <Jimmey> I connected my laptop and my Desktop together using a xover cable and a setup I've had work previously, and I get "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted" - What's wrong?
[06:00] <Jimmey> "
[06:00] <adinsx> well ok...
[06:00] <xfab> ntbnnt:  can I ask you one last question? :D
[06:00] <archangelpetro> can anyone tell me how i'd get the man pages for syscalls? (which package do i install for them?)
[06:00] <_Freedom0_> anyone?
[06:00] <ntbnnt> xfab: sure
[06:00] <majortom> if i wanted to use the s-video out on a graphics card, would i have to configure anything special? or would it "just work"?
[06:01] <xfab> ntbnnt: if you run xfce (xubuntu), how fast are gnome and kde-programms on it?
[06:01] <Zta> Any experts who can help me understand a new things about ivman?
[06:01] <latz> hi how do you add services to startup?
[06:01] <xfab> ntbnnt: because if you start a kde app on gnome it's quite slow
[06:02] <ntbnnt> xfab: i noticed no difference with my comp (duo, 2ghz, 2gb ram, 256 ati card)
[06:02] <freezey> i have all these conf files that are now labeled as executables but shouldn't be how do i change that?
[06:02] <ntbnnt> xfab: i like gnome; you can still run kde prgms
[06:03] <xfab> ntbnnt: I like gnome too, but I tried amarok and it's quite cool
[06:03] <ntbnnt> yea
[06:03] <xfab> ntbnnt: perhaps I should try xmms ^^
[06:03] <xfab> ntbnnt: but thank you again for your support :-)
[06:03] <ntbnnt> xfab: np, thanks, nice chatting
[06:04] <jtinney> latz: In Ubuntu, go to System > Preferences > Sessions, then go to the Startup Program Tab and you can add a start up entry from there
[06:04] <xfab> ntbnnt: you've really spared me some trouble (trying to getting the kernel to work
[06:04] <xfab> ntbnnt: yea, have a nice evening
[06:04] <latz> jtinney, kay ... that's fine for the desktop but how do you do it on console? cause I need both solutions
[06:04] <latz> :)
[06:04] <xfab> ntbnnt:  (got to go reading a book for school :-/)
[06:05] <ntbnnt> xfab: just go with stock, unless you have gentoo, debain, etc.
[06:05] <xfab> ntbnnt: ok, I see
[06:05] <jtinney> latz: You got me there, I'm newish. I'm having trouble this time around getting X to work with the nvidia-glx drivers and my GeForce 4 Ti4200
[06:05] <ntbnnt> xfab: fedora, solaris don't like customs either
[06:05] <xfab> ntbnnt: good to know
[06:06] <ntbnnt> xfab: have a nice evening, yea
[06:06] <zAi> i have redhat dictro and want to dual box ubuntu. ir order to do it, i need just to change / to something like /root ?
[06:06] <xfab> ntbnnt: thank you and cu
[06:06] <xfab> cu guys
[06:06] <jtinney> ntbnnt: are you any good with getting nvidia 3d support going?
[06:06] <latz> jtinney, kay but it would be nice knowing that......
[06:06] <fiftykps> in 6.10, runlevel is telling me its in runlevel 2, while x and gnome is running, how is this possible?
[06:06] <_Freedom0_> LjL
[06:06] <ntbnnt> jtinney: it depends on your card, what is it
[06:07] <jtinney> ntbnnt: it is a Gainward GeForce 4 Ti4200
[06:07] <petal> sorry, dumb question: What's the command again to bring up the gnome-config-editor? I tried to google it but couldn't come up with a correct keyword... Sorry!
[06:07] <latz> lol and that's how you get your questions answered by answering (or at least try to) other questions first!
[06:07] <Jimmey> jtinney, sudo apt-get install nvidia-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:07] <Jimmey> jtinney, no, that's wrong.
[06:08] <jtinney> Ok
[06:08] <Jimmey> jtinney, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:08] <_Freedom0_> !msg the bot>LjL
[06:08] <jtinney> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-server
[06:08] <sdac1> hi does anyone know roughly when the final stable version of xubuntu fiesty will come out ?  my installation of edge is ruined so i was thinking of waiting for fiesty and do clean install
[06:09] <ntbnnt> jtinney: okay
[06:09] <Jimmey> jtinney, you have to enable the multiverse repository
[06:09] <Jimmey> !repos
[06:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:09] <Agrajag> sdac1: April
[06:09] <freezey> whats the command to make evertying just read and write? not executable
[06:09] <atomiku-linux> What audio wrapper shall I use for enemy territory so I can get sound?
[06:09] <jtinney> They are enabled..
[06:09] <freezey> well whats the numbercode
[06:09] <latz> jtinney, thx anyway :)
[06:09] <ntbnnt> jtinney: go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 and try there, your card was a sticky one...
[06:10] <jtinney> ntbnnt: Excellent, thank you very much for all of your help.
[06:10] <Jimmey> jtinney, then sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules-($uname -r)
[06:10] <sdac1> Agrajag:  ok thanks
[06:10] <latz> ehum another question ... is it possible to disable tooltips on gnome? and if yes how?
[06:10] <jtinney> Jimmey: standby, running now
[06:10] <_Freedom0_> hi !
[06:10] <jtinney> latz: Sorry I couldn't be of more help. I tried to google it for you but came up empty.
[06:10] <latz> same here
[06:11] <_Freedom0_> Could someone help me for downloading this :cvs -d:ext:anoncvs@cvs.infradead.org:/home/cvs co -D 2006-01-17 usbatm
[06:12] <sdac1> does anyone know if firefox stores that saved sessions (open tabs) ... is it on the root parition or in /home  ?  I need to format and reinstall ubuntu so i need to make sure i can recover these open tabs
[06:12] <freezey> whats the number code to make things just read and write not executable
[06:12] <jhall> hey, i booted into ubuntu this morning and my wireless network settings were gone (including no wlan0)... There was an additional kernel listing on bootup... there are 3 there now.... what happened?
[06:12] <LjL> _Freedom0_, excuse me?
[06:12] <ntbnnt> jtinney: this is a nice project going on right now https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/accelerated-x
[06:12] <jrib> !permissions | freezey
[06:12] <ubotu> freezey: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:12] <Jimmey> sdac1, in /home/user/.mozilla
[06:12] <kbrosnan> sdac1: ~/.mozilla
[06:12] <_Freedom0_> lol ,where were you,!
[06:13] <iratik> I found a .pem file on my system - only its badly named and I have no clue which certificate it is -- is there a way to query the certificate to get its general info ?
[06:13] <_Freedom0_> LjL,please i need you to download for me a cvs file as i couldnt do it (i cant access to the net via my usb modem)
[06:14] <jtinney> ntbnnt: yes, it does, I will be very excited if 3d acceleration is enabled by default. It sure would save a lot of hassle.
[06:14] <LjL> _Freedom0_: err, if you can't access the net, how are you on IRC and how will i send it to you? :P anyway, giving me !msg the bot isn't a good way to get my attention. really.
[06:14] <atomiku-linux> What audio wrapper shall I use for enemy territory so I can get sound?
[06:14] <sdac1>  Jimmey and kbrosnan:  ok so everything is already saved.  great
[06:14] <jtinney> Jimmey: When I run the apt-cache command it just seems to execute and returns me back to the command prompt
[06:14] <ntbnnt> jtinney: hell yea!
[06:14] <jhall> what happened to my network settings?
[06:14] <_Freedom0_> LjL!its simple i connect via anotehr modem wich isnt a n USB!!huh!
[06:15] <_Freedom0_> im not using the dsl now!
[06:15] <LjL> _Freedom0_: then can't you get that CVS stuff from there?
[06:15] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> hey, I need some help here
[06:15] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> I'm having a Kernel Panic error, when I try to install the Edgy version...
[06:15] <Jimmey> jtinney, alright - are you sure that multiverse is enabled? What does "sudo less /etc/apt/sources.list | grep multiverse" say
[06:15] <_Freedom0_> im using windows ,and those cvs files are for my usb modem!dont worry!
[06:16] <iratik> _Freedom0_: the internet is interoperable between any type of connection device and any other type of connection device because it abides by a protocol - it doesn't matter if you are using usb modem - if it can connect to a website - it uses tcp/ip - therefore you can probably get the csv file you are looking for if you try
[06:16] <_Freedom0_> check this if u ont believ me http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/zxdsl852
[06:16] <jtinney> it lists ten entries with multiverse in them
[06:16] <Agrajag> _Freedom0_: Then why don't you just install cvs in windows and download the files?
[06:16] <jtinney> Jimmey ^
[06:17] <Jimmey> Alright
[06:17] <_Freedom0_> how i coan n im a newbie and using windows!!!!
[06:17] <_Freedom0_> euh i dont think windows could download cvs files!
[06:17] <Agrajag> _Freedom0_: http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ I haven't used this, but I have used tortoiseSVN and it's pretty simple.
[06:17] <Jimmey> jtinney, what does "apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules-*" say
[06:18] <jtinney> Jimmey: You might kill me for not mentioning this sooner.. but my installation is an Ubuntu Edgy Server, then I installed ubuntu-desktop on top of that to get a GUI
[06:18] <_Freedom0_> i dont know how to use it sorry!i tried with it!
[06:18] <iratik> _Freedom0_: what do you need to do - and what are you running
[06:18] <Jimmey> jtinney, I don't think that'll make much of a difference, I could be wrong though
[06:18] <jtinney> Jimmey: Ok. I didn't think it would, but you never know.
[06:18] <_Freedom0_> i need these files for compiling a module for my modem as shown on this tuto http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/zxdsl852
[06:18] <aalhamad> is there a something close to metacafe for linux?
[06:18] <LjL> _Freedom0_: there's plenty of CVS clients for windows. anyway, i've downloaded it... here you are http://mega-file.net/file.php?file=c8f32c344528d06715c110b427f1272c
[06:19] <jtinney> Jimmey: It has a listing of linux-restricted-modules, is there one in particular I should look for?
[06:19] <aalhamad> metacafe will not display the vedios
[06:19] <iratik> _Freedom0_: alright ... why do you need to compile a file for your modem ?
[06:19] <Jimmey> jtinney, one for your kernel
[06:19] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> hey I need some help installing my Edgy...
[06:19] <_Freedom0_> and as im newbie and i just using windows and i need to download them n compile it as wrtiiten on the tuto!
[06:19] <jtinney> Jimmey: Ok, how do I determine my kernel..? I guess I could check my GRUB file
[06:20] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> I have a Kernel Panic error msg
[06:20] <_Freedom0_> tahts why i ased you for a hand!
[06:20] <Jimmey> jtinney, that's what uname -r does
[06:20] <jtinney> ah, alright
[06:20] <thianpa> One question. Why is that Knoppix and Mandriva can support mp3 codec on default but Ubuntu dont ??
[06:20] <iratik> _Freedom0_: okay.... arrete
[06:20] <therapy> sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg:  I thought you might need some help picking a nick
[06:20] <SurfnKDal> !wireless
[06:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:20] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> lol
[06:20] <Jimmey> thianpa, Ubuntu can, just chooses not too
[06:20] <iratik> _Freedom0_: why are you compiling it under windows?
[06:20] <therapy> :-)
[06:20] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> haaha yeah I had no idea, so I put this
[06:20] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> my name is Joe
[06:20] <_Freedom0_> iratik ,,arrete  why?
[06:20] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> you can call me like hat
[06:20] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> that*
[06:21] <therapy> ok
[06:21] <_Freedom0_> euh no ,compilng under unbuntu 6.06
[06:21] <aalhamad> is there a something close to metacafe for linux? cuz meta cafe will not display videos before downloading them
[06:21] <iratik> il y a des instruction pour l'installer sans l'internet - pour quoi est vous ne les suivez pas si vous devez l'installer sur un boite sans l'internet ?
[06:21] <thianpa> Jimmey : Why dont they choose it? i mean its one of the most used Music Format in the world. Would that make it more popular ?
[06:21] <jhall> what would cause my wireless network settings to be lost after a reboot (i've been using wireless for MANY MONTHS)???
[06:21] <jtinney> Jimmey:  I have 2.6.17-11-server, which I didn't see in the apt-cache results, probably where my trouble lies..
[06:22] <iratik> i'm not sure if my french is as good as your english -- but ... why aren't you following the instructions for installing without the internet ?
[06:22] <_Freedom0_> iratik ,vous me comprenez pas ou quoi?j'ai dit jai besoin de connexion !! pour toi tu as un linux sans connexion c'est normal?
[06:22] <Jimmey> thianpa, it's closed source, Ubuntu ships completely open source - It's up to you whether you opt to use closed source stuff.
[06:23] <Jimmey> jtinney, try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[06:23] <_Freedom0_> iratik i install ubuntu and its alright!but ghow do you think that i could use Linux withouta connection :s??!
[06:23] <Agrajag> Jimmey: it's not closed-source.
[06:23] <Agrajag> Jimmey: it's patented.
[06:23] <RobNYC-work> !ipod
[06:23] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:23] <RobNYC-work> !rockbox
[06:23] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[06:23] <iratik> d'accord
[06:24] <jtinney> Jimmey: Excellent, it is downloading now. Will advise
[06:24] <thianpa> Jimmey : ok thanks
[06:24] <aalhamad> is there a something close to metacafe for linux? cuz meta cafe will not display videos before downloading them... plz help
[06:24] <Baronvonbarbeque> hmmm, looks like my sound card is not working or something, im getting no sound whatsoever
[06:24] <schwach> Hate to ask.. where so I set my computer's domain name - is there a config file somewhere?
[06:25] <iratik> vous avez un boite avec ubuntu - mais il ne peut pas utilise votre modem dsl avec algerie telecom ...  vous avez aussi un boite avec windows -- et vous voulez utilizer l'internet avec ubuntu , oui ?
[06:25] <iratik> n'est pas ?
[06:25] <fr0g> FR0GS RULE
[06:25] <fr0g> oh noe
[06:25] <fr0g> french
[06:25] <iratik> lol
[06:25] <fr0g> please don't eat me ><
[06:25] <_Freedom0_> iratik ,what do you eman by 'boit'?
[06:25] <iratik> box
[06:26] <cnc> hi! i kinda couldn't find this anywhere. how do i make xdm autologin me as a normal user? it's possible w/GDM, what about xdm?
[06:26] <jtinney> Jimmey: System restart is required. So, I'll brb.
[06:26] <_Freedom0_> i ve an usb mdeom wich isnt supported by my linux! (ubuntu 6.06)
[06:26] <atomiku-linux> how do i create a symbolic link?
[06:26] <Baronvonbarbeque> can someone please help me get my sound to work.
[06:26] <iratik> ln -s path name
[06:26] <tj_> Can anyone help me with how to install 3 harddisks on 1 pc?
[06:27] <atomiku-linux> thankas
[06:27] <atomiku-linux> *thanks
[06:27] <waxfactor2nd> what is the Option "DPMS" in the xorg.conf
[06:27] <yasi8h> lap so that i can accsess it remotly
[06:27] <Flannel> tj_: it's no different than 1, you still have various partitions mounted places, except in your case, those partitions are on separate drives
[06:28] <yasi8h> i installed openssh-server and i can accsess it localy
[06:28] <Goldenphoenix> waxfactor: it's to use powermanagement for monitors
[06:28] <yasi8h> like from the box where the server was installed
[06:28] <yasi8h> but i can't accsess it from a another pc in the lan?
[06:28] <yasi8h> what can be the problem?
[06:28] <Flannel> yasi8h: You sure you have the ip correct?
[06:28] <iratik> alright .. bottom line ----   you can use linux without the internet -- just like you can use windows without the internet. if you would like the internet on your ubuntu box -- and are on your windows box right now.. please refer  to the instructions for downloading the cvs client in windows  and it will compile it for UNIX if you specify as instructed ... then you can also download the .bin file to upgrade the modem for compa
[06:28] <iratik> tibility and go on from there -- the instructions are right there
[06:28] <yasi8h> yea
[06:29] <yasi8h> when i sshd 192... it just stays there like its stuck or something
[06:29] <tj_> Flannel, I have 1 hd_a installed with dual boot win/ubuntu but other 2 hd_b&c installed via raid card. Not able to see them in ubuntu.
[06:29] <SurfnKDal> does anyone know a help page for the diffferent models of Wireless mini-PCI cards?
[06:29] <Baronvonbarbeque> does anyone have any idea why my sound could be not working?
[06:29] <yasi8h> it doesnt give me a error message or anything at all
[06:29] <waxfactor2nd> Goldenphoenix: thanks - can it for some reason interupt the resulution?
[06:29] <macilaci> rh
[06:29] <SurfnKDal> that ubuntu supports?
[06:29] <Baronvonbarbeque> i just installed ubuntu
[06:30] <aalhamad> is there a something close to metacafe for linux? cuz meta cafe will not display videos before downloading them... plz help
[06:30] <JD|work> I'm getting a whole bunch of weird ATA errors
[06:30] <yasi8h> oh its giving some time out and connection refused errors?
[06:30] <JD|work> for example:
[06:30] <JD|work> ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/04 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/00/00
[06:30] <JD|work> and
[06:30] <JD|work> ATA1: command 0x25 timeout, stat 0x50 host_stat 0x1
[06:30] <yasi8h> is it a firewall or something like that?
[06:30] <JD|work> what are these?
[06:30] <Flannel> yasi8h: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I guess it might be set to local lstening only, but it shouldn't be by default.
[06:30] <yasi8h> ok i check it
[06:30] <Flannel> tj_: ah, RAIDs.  you shouldve said so
[06:30] <Flannel> !raid | tj_
[06:30] <ubotu> tj_: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:30] <atomiku-linux> Hmm... Theres no sound in enemy territory. in the console it says this: /dev/dsp1: No such file or directory
[06:30] <Goldenphoenix> waxfactor2nd: not likely, but try it out
[06:30] <silya> Hi all! when i create classes with prio's from 0 to 3 with the same 'rate' and then add filters: problem appears: default class with prio 1. best traffic walk to class with prio 0 and bad traffic to class with prio 2. when I add filter for bad class best class begin work very bad. ICMP replyes before adding: 10ms, after adding bad filter - 200 ms. what's wrong? (tc htb)
[06:30] <faemir> can someone tell me a good rss feedreader? not including akkregator
[06:30] <atomiku-linux> (when i use aoss et)
[06:31] <iratik> aalhamad: its a flash version issue - not an os issue
[06:31] <aalhamad> iratik, i didn't get you..
[06:31] <waxfactor2nd> Goldenphoenix: well i cant use more than 640*480
[06:31] <aalhamad> there is a metavafe for linux..
[06:31] <ikonone> hey i just downloaded ubuntu AND xubuntu(which I would prefer to install) but when I go to boot from the CD's I  keep getting the message corrupt kernel image on BOTH cd's
[06:32] <jtinney> Jimmey: I have returned. Should I try and run nvidia-xconfig now ?
[06:32] <tj_> Flannel, yes sorry,.... I forgot because they used to be easily detected by windows. So I ignored the fact that things need to be configured in linux
[06:32] <xst> Where do I get inkscape 0.45 for ubuntu?
[06:32] <Goldenphoenix> wasfactor2nd: nopaste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, please
[06:32] <aalhamad> but i want something that can display the videos before donwloading them.. metacafe for linx is doen with command lines
[06:32] <faemir> ikonone: try burning them again at the slowest speed possible
[06:32] <Jimmey> jtinney, have you got nvidia-glx installed?
[06:32] <iratik> http://www.metacafe.com/?
[06:32] <yasi8h> hey i dont see anything that says don't accept connections from the out side in the sshd configuration fiel
[06:32] <yasi8h> file...
[06:33] <faemir> ikonone: and also check the md5 sums
[06:33] <jtinney> Jimmey: I have installed it several times, but I can install again just in case.
[06:33] <estefania> hola
[06:33] <ikonone> faemir yeah i checked the sums and they both turned out correct
[06:33] <Jimmey> try "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[06:33] <Baronvonbarbeque> can someone PLEASE help me figure out why i am getting no sound now that i am running ubuntu
[06:33] <ikonone> faemir which should mean they should work.... ill try reburning them...
[06:33] <Flannel> !sound | Baronvonbarbeque
[06:33] <ubotu> Baronvonbarbeque: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:33] <Goldenphoenix> ikonone: have you checked the sums of the cds?
[06:33] <faemir> ikonone: yup :)
[06:33] <jtinney> Jimmey: Unable to load nvidia kernel driver.
[06:33] <jtinney> nvidia-glx is installed.
[06:34] <ikonone> Goldenphoenix yup....
[06:34] <iratik> faemir: you aren't trying to rescue a broken system are you?
[06:34] <Jimmey> jtinney, does it say why?
[06:34] <tj_> Flannel, but you are suggesting I better install the HD's without a raid card to avoid fuss and trouble?
[06:34] <ikonone> k3b did it when I burned them, I had verify CD checked on both burns
[06:34] <faemir> iratik: um, why would i do that?
[06:34] <jtinney> Jimmey: It says Be Sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your kernel
[06:34] <faemir> iratik: be doing that*
[06:34] <jtinney> Jimmey: That is all it says.
[06:34] <Jimmey> jtinney, alright
[06:34] <iratik> well.. i ran into the same problem when a friend's windows installation abruptly stopped working
[06:35] <iratik> we tried boot disk after boot disk - i told him we could always try linux
[06:35] <ubuntujoop> 
[06:35] <Goldenphoenix> ikonone: that's very strange
[06:35] <ikonone> yeah...
[06:35] <ikonone> i dont get it
[06:35] <iratik> turns out his fans were fried and his system couldn't keep anything straight in its head - i didn't matter what OS was running - a hardware failure
[06:36] <Jimmey> jtinney, maybe you need some different kernel modules - I don't know. I don't know whether it's trying the 386 ones
[06:36] <pjz> does the ubuntu livecd come with a repartitioner?
[06:36] <VincentMX> hi
[06:36] <Jimmey> pjz, yes
[06:36] <Flannel> tj_: I didn't say that.  That page gives RAID info.  You'll definately need the alternate CD though.
[06:36] <pjz> it can resize a winXP NTFS partition?
[06:36] <yell0w> hey guys which key do i hit to stop something like the command top ?
[06:36] <Flannel> yell0w: ctrl-C
[06:36] <Goldenphoenix> pjz: not safely
[06:36] <jtinney> Jimmey: Okay, it looks like in my grub list i have other kernels installed that I can boot in to, should I try that and if it works then I guess we would know it was the -server kernel giving us trouble ?
[06:37] <waxfactor2nd> I can't get my screen to more than 640x480 after installing the nVidia driver. Anyone got some suggestion? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5588/
[06:37] <Flannel> pjz: yes.  juts don't resize it too small
[06:37] <iratik> no sound ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358253
[06:37] <VincentMX> hi
[06:37] <pjz> Flannel: cool, thanks
[06:37] <Jimmey> pjz, there's two ways. There's software called Gparted that can resize partitions, but I'm not sure if it can do NTFS. The install partitioner definitely can.
[06:37] <Goldenphoenix> pjz: and defragment before
[06:37] <Jimmey> jtinney, that's definitely worth a try :-P
[06:37] <yell0w> thanks Flannel , all this time i  used ctrl-z and manually kill the process =))
[06:37] <jtinney> Jimmey: Great, I'll be back in a few.
[06:37] <iratik> I found a .pem file on my system - only its badly named and I have no clue which certificate it is -- is there a way to query the certificate to get its general info ?
[06:37] <Flannel> pjz: it's best to defrag first.  and actually, safest if you repartition in windows itself
[06:37] <pjz> Goldenphoenix: nothing's guaranteed in this world.  All safety and surety are illusion.  Ah, and that sounds like good advice =)
[06:37] <VincentMX> i've installed edubuntu to my laptop, but i dont have any sound
[06:37] <iratik> no sound ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358253
[06:38] <pjz> Flannel: how do I shrink an NTFS partition in windoze? I'd rather not drop the $$$ on partition magic or whatever
[06:38] <Jimmey> pjz, the install partitioner does it perfectly
[06:38] <atomiku-linux> When I use "AOSS ET" the game's sound output is really crackily
[06:38] <atomiku-linux> what can I do
[06:38] <VincentMX> the Volume Control shows AC 97 as a sound interface, and hda-intel
[06:41] <cac__> hi folks
[06:41] <cac__> don't troll pls
[06:41] <waxfactor2nd> Hi cac__
[06:41] <cac__> hello guy
[06:42] <jtinney> Jimmey: Alright, I've returned with kernel 2.6.17-10-386
[06:42] <sable> Is there an easy way to back up my computer?  I've ddone 8 reinstallitions in the past 12 hours, and I'm really getting tired of it
[06:42] <ubuntujoop>  i have started a room dose that mean im the "mod"
[06:43] <Wicks> anyone know how i can simply emulate a "right click" with the ALT button?
[06:43] <likwidtek> does anyone use synergy ?
[06:43] <Goldenphoenix> sable: perhaps you should look at dirvish
[06:43] <sable> Golden: will do
[06:43] <jtinney> Ah, Jimmey abandoned me. :( Alas.
[06:44] <yell0w> Wicks, there's a key on the keyboard for that purpose
[06:44] <yell0w> =)
[06:44] <faemir> on xubuntu, my resolutions only goes up t 1024 x 768, i take it i need to get the gfx card drivers to go higher
[06:44] <cac__> that is a big lie
[06:44] <atomiku-linux> When I use "AOSS ET" the game's sound output is really crackily. is there any way I can fix this?
[06:45] <faemir> atomiku-linux: tried using a different sound instead?
[06:45] <tuxcrafter> does any one now a video tutorial for creating a *.deb package file?
[06:45] <faisalko> hello all i use ubuntu but i cant connect to the internet i use sierra card mobile and the ubuntu unknow the hardware :((
[06:45] <faemir> is it just me or is there a troll logging in and out?
[06:45] <adinsx> does anyone know how to set gnome to only animate windows when you select a place to move them to?
[06:45] <faemir> animate?
[06:46] <atomiku-linux> faemir: what do you mean
[06:46] <adinsx> like when you drag a window in gnome, its visible the entire time, i would rather the window stay put until i select a place it should be moved to
[06:46] <adinsx> its sort of hard to describe
[06:46] <faisalko> hello all i use ubuntu but i cant connect to the internet i use sierra card mobile and the ubuntu unknow the hardware :((
[06:46] <faemir> atomiku-linux: well that is OSS, try alsa
[06:46] <cac__> ey guys
[06:46] <atomiku-linux> huh
[06:46] <faemir> adinsx:  i get you
[06:46] <atomiku-linux> OOOHHH!
[06:46] <atomiku-linux> right
[06:46] <atomiku-linux> how can i get ET to use ALSA?
[06:47] <cac__> have you tried linuxt mint?
[06:47] <faemir> atomiku-linux: i don't know xD
[06:47] <Goldenphoenix> waxfactor2nd: the xorg.conf looks good, can you give the xorg.log in /var/log/ ?
[06:47] <faisalko> plz help
[06:47] <atomiku-linux> D:
[06:47] <faisalko> hello all i use ubuntu but i cant connect to the internet i use sierra card mobile and the ubuntu unknow the hardware :((
[06:47] <cac__> it is a must
[06:47] <_3oo3_> hi.  is ubuntu a good OS compared to BSD platforms?
[06:47] <Wicks> yell0w: what key would that be o_0
[06:47] <faemir> adinsx: sorry, i cant check at the moment (updating & on xfce), if you will stay put on there i will check a bit later
[06:47] <adinsx> ok thanks :)
[06:47] <faemir> _3oo3_: imo it has better software resources
[06:48] <yell0w> Wicks, the key to the left of your right CTRL key
[06:48] <rouven>  hi. im using compiz with aiglx + nvidia 1.0.9631 binary drivers on ubuntu feisty and have a constant load of ~1.6 with xorg eating approx 40 to 50 % of my cpu without any applications running. what's the cause for that?
[06:48] <adinsx> im not even sure where to look, ive checked "optimizing gnome" type guides
[06:48] <_3oo3_> faemir -- im not sure what you mean?
[06:48] <macd> !ati
[06:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:48] <Baronvonbarbeque> big problem, the manufacturer of my sound card doesnt show up in the big list of linux sound card manufacturers!!! HELP
[06:48] <faisalko> hello all i use ubuntu but i cant connect to the internet i use sierra card mobile and the ubuntu unknow the hardware :((
[06:48] <faemir> rouven: is that the xorg drivers or the official drivers
[06:48] <Wicks> yell0w: thanks.. trying it now... bloody macs
[06:49] <rouven> faemir: nvidia binary drivers
[06:49] <yell0w> Wicks, oh wait, macs ?
[06:49] <yell0w> lol
[06:49] <faemir> rouven: sorry, dunno then. try turning of some of the sfx :P
[06:49] <faemir> rouven: have you tried with beryl instead of compiz?
[06:49] <Goldenphoenix> Baronvonbarbeque: try it here: http://www.alsa-project.org/
[06:49] <rouven> faemir: is there a special channel for desktop-effects?
[06:50] <_3oo3_> faemir what do you mean by better software resources? can you elaborate?
[06:50] <Baronvonbarbeque> yeah, im running an onboard sound card made by some chinese manufacturer, i doubt it.
[06:50] <rag_> hi all
[06:50] <faemir> _3oo3_: i find that there are better programs for linux in general over *BSD
[06:50] <rag_> please how to translate list of packages ;)
[06:50] <Baronvonbarbeque> and yep, not there
[06:50] <faemir> rouven: nope
[06:51] <rag_> just description field on list, adept, synaptic, all ;)
[06:51] <Baronvonbarbeque> any ideas?
[06:51] <rag_> any ideas?
[06:51] <Wicks> yell0w: Nope doesnt work :E
[06:51] <rag_> is there this translate?
[06:51] <faemir> rag_: google translater
[06:51] <faemir> xD
[06:51] <Baronvonbarbeque> har har har
[06:51] <yell0w> Wicks, yeah,  i didn't realize it's a mac, sorry ;(
[06:51] <Wicks> hehe no worries
[06:51] <Pag_XP> I need some help with a serious kernel / boot problem
[06:52] <Baronvonbarbeque> seriously though, im using an ASUS brand soundcard, i need drivers!
[06:52] <rag_> faemir: o good!
[06:52] <Pag_XP> I am stumped
[06:52] <rag_> faemir: and other?
[06:52] <Wicks> is here a way how i can map a key to that function?
[06:52] <rag_> faemir: but how to change the list?
[06:52] <Goldenphoenix> !metaquestions | Pag_XP
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metaquestions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <Pag_XP> I have a Pentium D 2.66 Ghz 1GB RAM system running Ubuntu Edgy
[06:52] <_3oo3_> faemir:#ubuntu like what?  can you give example?
[06:53] <Pici> !enter
[06:53] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:53] <rag_> faemir: first how to extract list
[06:53] <rag_> faemir: any command?
[06:53] <Pag_XP> When it boots, I get a lot of messages that ends with "Kernel Panic, tried to kill init"
[06:53] <rag_> faemir: with apt-cache is possible, i see
[06:53] <faemir> _3oo3_: amaroK is the best media player - for linux only
[06:54] <Pag_XP> I can repair it by booting from a live disk, chrooting into the filesystem and reinstalling the linux-image package with apt-get.
[06:54] <_3oo3_> faimer:  thats just not true.
[06:54] <faemir> _3oo3_: also, if you use a very popular distro like ubuntu, you get a massive irc channel like this for help ;P
[06:54] <Pag_XP> But every time I reboot the problem comes back. If anyone else had this: How did you fix it?
[06:54] <Baronvonbarbeque> *starts crying* i just want to play my music, i have the codecs, the sound card is driverless i think
[06:54] <rag_> faemir: nooo
[06:54] <faemir> rag_: idk
[06:55] <unop> Pag_XP,  is this edgy? was it upgraded from dapper or installed afresh?
[06:55] <faisalko> hello all i use ubuntu but i cant connect to the internet i use sierra card mobile and the ubuntu unknow the hardware :((
[06:55] <_3oo3_> faimer:  amarok is crossplatform....bsd, linux, and i think some others
[06:55] <Pag_XP> And, how do I interpret the kernel messages to find out what is actually causing the problem? I looked up "tried to kill init" on the forums
[06:55] <Pag_XP> unop, it is Edgy, installed from scratch
[06:55] <faemir> _3oo3_: that's changed :\
[06:55] <Baronvonbarbeque> *sigh* no one can help me
[06:55] <_3oo3_> also firefox, mozilla
[06:55] <faemir> Baronvonbarbeque: what is your problem?
[06:55] <rag_> faemir: ok thx
[06:55] <_3oo3_> im trying to find reasons to consider both os's
[06:55] <unop> Pag_XP,  I'd suggest you purge and reinstall the upstart package
[06:56] <unop> Pag_XP,  via the chroot, etc
[06:56] <Pag_XP> I had it hang on boot with "Tried to kill init" a couple of times, but booting into recovery mode always fixed it
[06:56] <rag_> please any say where locate list apt
[06:56] <rag_> on local?
[06:56] <Pag_XP> Now recovery mode hangs too
[06:56] <Pag_XP> unop, I will try that
[06:56] <rag_> because it is in local
[06:56] <faemir> _3oo3_: companies that do make alt. drivers they are usually for linux
[06:56] <faemir> _3oo3_: if they do at all
[06:56] <jahid> can anyone tell me, how can activate the middle mouse key of IBM laptop?
[06:56] <unop> Pag_XP,  sudo sh -c "aptitude purge upstart; sudo install upstart"
[06:56] <rag_> because without net apt-cache work it
[06:56] <rag_> any say me whereis the list of packages?
[06:56] <karthik> hi guys...help me...how to convert string into double in gcc?
[06:56] <_3oo3_> faemir, so you could say one advantage is support with third party gaming and multimedia hardware?
[06:56] <karthik> hi guys...help me...how to convert string into double in gcc?
[06:56] <jahid> That middle moues key used to use scroll n a page
[06:57] <Enselic``> karthik: what language?
[06:57] <unop> karthik,  you want #c or #gcc not ubuntu
[06:57] <karthik> GCC
[06:57] <notgod> karthik: you don't in gcc.
[06:57] <faemir> _3oo3_: yeh, and i don't know if there is a wine for *BSD. probably is.
[06:57] <karthik> wht..cant understand
[06:57] <_3oo3_> yes, wine is for freebsd
[06:57] <notgod> faemir: there is.
[06:57] <faemir> _3oo3_: ok
[06:57] <aLFiB> my applet startbar is not working correcly... can anyone help me please?
[06:57] <_3oo3_> it was actually written on bsd :)
[06:57] <faemir> _3oo3_: ^^
[06:58] <_3oo3_> (as was amarok)
[06:58] <karthik> hi guys...help me...how to convert string into double in gcc?
[06:58] <karthik> hi guys...help me...how to convert string into double in gcc?
[06:58] <_3oo3_> (as was linux)
[06:58] <Enselic``> karthik: gcc is a compiler
[06:58] <unop> karthik,  do you want to get banned?
[06:58] <Enselic``> karthik: not a language
[06:58] <mats> wasnt linux crated on minix?
[06:58] <unop> karthik,  please ask in a programming room, this is off-topic here
[06:58] <karthik> hi guys...help me...how to convert string into double in C?
[06:58] <rag_> ok apt-get update is for download packages list
[06:58] <_3oo3_> mats no linux was created in the form of minnix
[06:58] <rag_> but where is this list on local?
[06:58] <Goldenphoenix> karthik try "/join #gcc"
[06:58] <rag_> anybody know it?
[06:58] <mats> _3oo3_: ah, right! ;D
[06:59] <jmazaredo> is there a problem when installing 6.10 using (hdisk master+cdrom slave in 1 cable)
[06:59] <faemir> aLFiB: what wm you using?
[06:59] <Baronvonbarbeque> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GIVE ME SOME HELP. MY SOUND IS NOT WORKING. I HAVE CODECS, I THINK I NEED TO FIND DRIVERS. MANUFACTURER IS NOT LISTED IN THE ALSA SITE.
[06:59] <aLFiB> faemir, ubuntu
[06:59] <unop> !CAPS
[06:59] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:59] <karthik> guys///help me
[06:59] <Enselic``> karthik: http://www.thinkage.ca/english/gcos/expl/c/lib/strtod.html
[06:59] <faemir> Baronvonbarbeque:  try OSS instead!
[06:59] <unop> !ops | karthik offtopic
[06:59] <ubotu> karthik offtopic: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:59] <Baronvonbarbeque> tried oss
[06:59] <Baronvonbarbeque> no good.
[07:00] <atomiku-linux> When I use "AOSS ET" the game's sound output is really crackily. is there any way I can fix this?
[07:00] <faemir> Baronvonbarbeque: dunno then, sorry
[07:00] <_3oo3_> in all fairness unop....no one was answering his question...when you ignore someone they tend to get frustrated in 'supportive' environments
[07:00] <Baronvonbarbeque> tried all of the built in ones
[07:00] <faemir> atomiku-linux: what game is this?
[07:00] <atomiku-linux> enemy territory
[07:00] <faisalko> hello all i use ubuntu but i cant connect to the internet i use sierra card mobile and the ubuntu unknow the hardware :((
[07:00] <unop> Baronvonbarbeque,  have you made sure you have the right card set a default
[07:00] <unop> ?
[07:00] <faemir> atomiku-linux:  is this is wine?
[07:00] <atomiku-linux> im trying to get it to use alsa, so i can have xmms and et both playing sound
[07:00] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone have any idea why Azureus won't show up as a system tray icon, and won't minimize to the taskbar? I'm using Azureus 2.5.0.4 and 6.10.17 of Ubuntu (I think)
[07:00] <atomiku-linux> no, not wine
[07:01] <faemir> youkilldkennedy: i have that problem as well, i just used ktorrent instead :|
[07:01] <GaiaX11> Do you know if the CNR (package management from Linspire) will be also available to older ubuntu versions or only from feisty on?
[07:01] <Baronvonbarbeque> unop where would i look to check?
[07:01] <faemir> oh dear lord
[07:01] <Wicks> anyone else have any ideas on how i can map a key on the keyboard to be a right click button? :E
[07:01] <aLFiB> faemir, can u help me?
[07:01] <faemir> aLFiB: remind what was wrong again sorry
[07:01] <unop> Baronvonbarbeque,   asoundconf list
[07:01] <aLFiB> faemir,  my applet startbar is not working correcly... can anyone help me please?
[07:01] <Pici> GaiaX11: Probably only for new versions
[07:01] <Baronvonbarbeque> thx
[07:01] <youkilldkennedy> faemir: It sucks, don't it? I heard using uTorrent with wine was a good alternative. Does ktorrent keep your place in the download when you close the application.
[07:02] <aLFiB> faemir,  it has a black background
[07:02] <faemir> youkilldkennedy: yes
[07:02] <faemir> youkilldkennedy: i heard that utorrent selling their data :s
[07:02] <daviddixon> I am trying to install MATlab and this is what I get :~/programs/matlab_sv$ /cdrom/install_unix.sh -glnx86
[07:02] <daviddixon> bash: /cdrom/install_unix.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied      can anyone help
[07:02] <Pag_XP> unop, I've purged and reinstalled; I'll reboot a few times to see if it worked. Just for future reference, what exactly does the upstart package contain / do?
[07:02] <Baronvonbarbeque> "names of available sound cards intel"
[07:02] <unop> !upstart | Pag_XP
[07:02] <ubotu> Pag_XP: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[07:03] <unop> !info upstart | Pag_XP
[07:03] <ubotu> pag_xp: upstart: event-based init daemon. In component main, is required. Version 0.2.7-7 (edgy), package size 91 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:03] <unop> !info sysvinit | Pag_XP
[07:03] <ubotu> pag_xp: sysvinit: System-V-like init utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu16 (edgy), package size 106 kB, installed size 280 kB
[07:03] <GaiaX11> Pici: They say that there will be a CNR plugin. So, I am in Dapper then what if I install the plugin?
[07:03] <Ubuntuguy> ALl -- How can I keep boot parameters from disappearing when the kernel is updated?
[07:03] <latz> Hi anybody using openvpn in here, could some1 help setting up the permissions so a non-root user could start a openvpn connection using tun device? (the device is set up properly already) Thx
[07:03] <Pag_XP> Aha
[07:03] <Pag_XP> TY
[07:03] <Baronvonbarbeque> i give up for tonight.
[07:03] <unop> Pag_XP,  if you understand what the init script does, this is ubuntu's enhancement of it
[07:03] <Baronvonbarbeque> 2am 4 hours of trying to get sound.
[07:04] <Baronvonbarbeque> no progress
[07:04] <joe_joe_joe> hey guys, I boot with the Ubuntu 6.10 cd, and I click Install Ubuntu, and then the Kernel starts to load, and then I get this: "Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init"
[07:04] <joe_joe_joe> what's wrong..?
[07:04] <Enselic``> Baronvonbarbeque: we understand you are disappointed, but whining will not help
[07:04] <faemir> aLFiB: are you using GNOME?!
[07:04] <Pici> GaiaX11: I cant speculate on what will happen until we start to see CNR in current versions of Ubuntu.
[07:04] <Enselic``> Baronvonbarbeque: when someone knows the solution they will tell you
[07:04] <faemir> joe_joe_joe: you checked the md5?
[07:04] <aLFiB> faemir, Yes
[07:04] <prabu> Hi guys i need major help here, heres what i need help with : i got a server with 6.10 and a RAID1+LVM the problem is when i add a new HDD in to rebuild the raid it doesnt boot LILO how can i get LILO back in thre
[07:04] <faemir> aLFiB: tried changing themes?
[07:05] <joe_joe_joe> faemir, what's the md5..?
[07:05] <Baronvonbarbeque> im not whining, more like groaning as my arse hurts from a bad chair and my brain hurts from no progress. i will keep trying in the morning.
[07:05] <sable> Anyone know of a graphical backup program? I can't figure out dirvish
[07:05] <joe_joe_joe> and how do I check it? (i'm kinda noob using Linux)
[07:05] <faemir> joe_joe_joe: its a verification thing
[07:05] <Baronvonbarbeque> good luck to the rest of you. may you have better luck than me
[07:05] <faemir> joe_joe_joe: they are used in windows as well ;)
[07:05] <joe_joe_joe> oh, you mean when I record the cd?
[07:05] <faemir> wait sec
[07:05] <aLFiB> faemir, no... what diference it makes?
[07:05] <faemir> joe_joe_joe: also, try burning it again on a _really_ low speed. like 4x
[07:05] <Baronvonbarbeque> oh, and hopefully you will have someone to spend valintines with, might manage some amount of computational frustration.
[07:05] <faemir> aLFiB: try
[07:06] <prabu> anybody on how i can get my LILO back ?
[07:07] <faemir> prabu: pm me your problem
[07:07] <atomiku-linux> How can I have enemy territory and XMMS playing sounds at the same time?
[07:08] <faemir> atomiku-linux: cant you just play both? :S
[07:08] <sable> Anyone know of a graphical backup program?
[07:09] <youkilldkennedy> faemir: Does Ktorrent run well under GNOME?
[07:09] <GaiaX11> Pici: Even in their FAQ this question and answer was not proposed. I tried to get a way of asking them through e-mail, but I did not find. Someone could help me to ask that for them. So they could answer it in their FAQ's (Ubuntu faq/ Linspire faq)
[07:09] <Goldenphoenix> KTorrent works under GNOME
[07:09] <faemir> youkilldkennedy: yeh
[07:09] <gozert> Hello everyone
[07:09] <youkilldkennedy> Okay, thanks.
[07:10] <pollywog> anyone know why nvidia won't work with a custom kernel even though I also installed nvidia drivers for the custom kernel?  I have done this in Debian for years but apparently something else is needed in Ubuntu?
[07:10] <gozert> can anyone point me to a page about enabling composite, with drop shadows? Not XGL/AIGLX but the plain 2D desktop that was introduced wayyy before the 3D desktop
[07:10] <madprobe> gOLdenHaWK3D, hi dude
[07:10] <Nukeador> hi all
[07:11] <Enselic``> hi
[07:11] <gozert> basically it would give shadows and would let the freedesktop clock run with real translucency
[07:12] <Nukeador> any idea why in services-admin i have all unchecked and if I check them again and quit they are not saved? O_O its a big problem because i cant log in normal mode
[07:12] <bruegge> nabend
[07:12] <Nukeador> i have to use recovery mode and launch gdm manually
[07:12] <atomiku-linux> How can I have enemy territory and XMMS playing sounds at the same time?
[07:12] <Goldenphoenix> bruegge: nabend, aber hier ist englisch
[07:13] <bruegge> oh ok sry, dann bin ich flashc glandet, mla gucken wo der deutsche war. ^^
[07:13] <Goldenphoenix> bruegge: #ubuntu-de
[07:13] <bruegge> jut thx
[07:14] <numist> window set stick off
[07:14] <Crescendo> What command can I run to schedule a full hard drive scan and repair on the next reboot?
[07:15] <HymnToLife> Crescendo, shutdown -rF now
[07:16] <HymnToLife> (that will reboot now though)
[07:16] <Crescendo> Okay, I'll just do it when I can.
[07:16] <neighborlee> my HP scanner ( officejet 5500 ) used to work great running xsane, but in edgy it trys..a minute or so later I get error can't communite with device..did they remove support for this device for some reason in edgy ??
[07:16] <gozert> Is there a howto for enabling the composite and damage extension to get shadows and translucency (not xgl or aiglx)
[07:16] <gozert> ?
[07:16] <Crescendo> That'll find bad sectors and eliminate their use?
[07:16] <Pag_XP> OK, so, it worked in that it will boot one time after I reinstall upstart and the kernel image.
[07:16] <Pag_XP> But the second reboot, it's right back at the same problem
[07:17] <HymnToLife> Crescendo, most of the time, yes
[07:17] <Pag_XP> I am seeing something that looks like a stack trace, talking about "acpi_hw_low_level_read" and "kernel_thread_helper" and a lot of hex, maybe opcodes
[07:17] <HymnToLife> you can do sudo touch /forcefsck if you don't want to reboot immediately
[07:17] <HymnToLife> (that will run fsck at next reboot)
[07:18] <Crescendo> HymnToLife, will that do the same scan and repair?
[07:18] <HymnToLife> yes
[07:18] <Nukeador> how can i see what services run at startup? because services-admin does not save my settings
[07:18] <Enselic``> Nukeador: /etc/init.d-ish
[07:19] <unop> Nukeador,  ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S*
[07:19] <Sianis_> hi all
[07:19] <Sianis_> i installed Azureus from repo
[07:19] <Sianis_> but i haven't taskbar icon
[07:19] <Webspot> Using Netgear WPN111 (atheros chipset). Installed ndiswrapper. Installed the windows driver with ndiswrapper. Installed the ndiswrapper in to the kernel modules. running iwconfig shows no wlan0 or ath0 or any other wireless networks adapters
[07:20] <arphetic> Azureus sux :<
[07:20] <Berg> hi
[07:20] <Goldenphoenix> Webspot: ifconfig
[07:20] <Webspot> ifconfig?
[07:20] <Nukeador> Enselic``, /etc/init.d-ish does not exist
[07:20] <arphetic> ye
[07:21] <arphetic> ifconfig in terminal
[07:21] <gozert> i think i got it, apt-get xcompmgr and transset, put Option "RenderAccel" "true" under Device in xorg.conf, enable the composite extension with a section extensions (copy/paste), restart X, run xcompmgr
[07:21] <Goldenphoenix> Webspot: whats the output of ifconfig
[07:21] <Sianis_> arphetic: what are you using?
[07:21] <unop> Nukeador,  ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S*
[07:21] <Enselic``> Nukeador: unop was right, and I confused
[07:21] <arphetic> bittornado
[07:21] <Webspot> just about to run it. It's acutally my friends machine...
[07:21] <Nukeador> unop, that way i get a full list of the services, but they are not loaded on startup :S
[07:22] <arphetic> Sianis_: unless you install the azureus independent from Ubuntu/gnome, you'll get probably tons of problems, as I did ;)
[07:22] <sable> Anyone know of a good graphical backup program? I can't figure out devish
[07:22] <Sianis_> but the bittornado is so unfriendly :)
[07:22] <unop> Nukeador,  they are a list of scripts that run at startup -- whether they get a service running or not depends on the individual script there -- most do, some done
[07:23] <unop> s/done/dont/
[07:23] <marcko> I don't get this story of torrent files. Each time I try to download one, the transfer rate is really slow ( 20, 30 KB/S)
[07:23] <arphetic> !anyone
[07:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:23] <lnxmomo> maybe its not a popular file
[07:23] <arphetic> I love that 1 tbh xD
[07:24] <multichil> marcko : Check you port forwarding settings
[07:24] <sacater> hello, if anyone can help me get beryl or/and xgl on my computer i would appreciate it greatly, please join #sacater to help me
[07:24] <Nukeador> unop, but my prob is that no service run at startup and im unable to log in the system, i have to run ubuntu in recovery mode to log in
[07:24] <unop> Nukeador,  i suppose the question to ask is , what are you trying to achieve?
[07:24] <gozert> i got it, thanks anyway
[07:24] <marcko> multichil. How?
[07:24] <arphetic> marcko: when you upload more, you'll download more (I think)
[07:24] <Nukeador> im trying to activate at startup the services
[07:24] <gozert> arphetic: true
[07:25] <unop> Nukeador,  how do you conclude no services run at startup?
[07:25] <Goldenphoenix> hallo bruegge
[07:25] <multichil> marcko : Do you use Nat or is you pc directly connected to the internet?
[07:25] <arphetic> marcko: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent read more about Torrent system
[07:25] <Nukeador> because i cant run ubuntu in normal mode (blank screen instead of login screen) and if i run services-admin all are unchecked
[07:26] <bruegge> hey, ich geh aber wieder in den deutschen, war blo nen fehler meiner seits ^^
[07:26] <Webspot> Goldenphoenix: ifconfig showed eth0 and lo
[07:26] <Pag_XP> This is getting more and more confusing
[07:26] <Pag_XP> And
[07:26] <aalhamad> is there a good proxy site?
[07:26] <Pag_XP> ........I get an ACPI ERROR!
[07:26] <gozert> Nukeador: "update-rc.d <script> defaults" will reset that script to run at default runlevels
[07:26] <arphetic> !newline
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newline - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <jahid> why my firefox cant play audio and video file?
[07:27] <marcko> O well :) I'm newbie. I have a dsl connection. I have a username and passord. I'm using a modem/router. multichil
[07:27] <Goldenphoenix> Webspot: what's the output of "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[07:27] <Pag_XP> Is there anyone I can pm the calltrace to who can interpret it for me?
[07:27] <Nukeador> gozert, so i should do update-rc.d * defaults in /etc/init.d ?
[07:27] <marcko> I guess it's nat, multichil
[07:28] <gozert> Nukeador: not * but almost :D
[07:28] <Nukeador> k
[07:28] <gozert> Nukeador: * would also include rc?.d
[07:28] <arphetic> !enter > Pag_XP
[07:28] <traisen> Is there a list of available packages for Ubuntu?
[07:28] <Goldenphoenix> marcko: Right guess
[07:28] <marcko> thanks arphetic
[07:28] <arphetic> traisen: yes, what version do you have?
[07:29] <Pici> traisen: http://packages.ubuntu.com ? I'm not sure thats what you're looking for though
[07:29] <aalhamad> is there a good proxy site?
[07:29] <ikonia> aalhamad: proxy for what
[07:29] <traisen> 6.06
[07:29] <aalhamad> if i want to use a proxy to surf over the internet what shall i do ?
[07:29] <marcko> :) I'm already becoming an expert Goldenphoenix.
[07:29] <gozert> Nukeador: try something like ls -l|grep -v drwx|awk '{ print "update-rc.d " $8 " defaults"; }'|bash -
[07:30] <arphetic> traisen: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/
[07:30] <gozert> aalhamad: what browser, firefox? epiphany
[07:30] <gozert> ?
[07:30] <aalhamad> ikonia, for surfing over the internet..
[07:30] <aalhamad> firefox
[07:30] <loca|host> hello
[07:30] <ikonia> aalhamad: do you want to run your own proxy, or use someone elses ?
[07:30] <ikonia> loca|host: hello
[07:30] <traisen> arphetic: Thanks
[07:30] <aalhamad> use somebdy else..
[07:30] <gozert> aalhamad: edit > preferences
[07:30] <loca|host> how to not to permit users to do: sudo passwd root
[07:30] <arphetic> traisen:  thank Pici instead
[07:30] <Nukeador> gozert, i get lots of System startup links for /etc/init.d/reboot already exist.
[07:30] <ikonia> aalhamad: then wy are you asking in a channel thats about supported ubuntu technical supports
[07:30] <gozert> aalhamad: then advanced > network
[07:31] <Webspot> Goldenphoenix: modprobe ndiswrapper showed nothing
[07:31] <loca|host> and change root's password
[07:31] <gozert> aalhamad: click settings
[07:31] <ikonia> loca|host: add them to the sudoers file
[07:31] <aalhamad> gozert, ok?
[07:31] <traisen> pici:thanks
[07:31] <gozert> Nukeador: ohhh that should be fine
[07:31] <loca|host> ikonia, what should i add ?
[07:31] <aalhamad> and what proxy i can use...
[07:31] <ikonia> loca|host: look at the file and you should see the format
[07:31] <ikonia> aalhamad: you need to find someone who is willing to let you
[07:31] <Kresjah> Hello there! I was wondering if someone could help me get Mesa GL working on my machine
[07:32] <Nukeador> gozert, but if i run now services-admin all the services are unchecked...
[07:32] <aalhamad> ikonia there are site that i can;t get into it..
[07:32] <arphetic> Kresjah: try stating the problem instead
[07:32] <ikonia> aalhamad: so ?
[07:32] <joe_joe_joe> faemir I'm having a problem again installing my ubuntu.. I burned t at 8x, and i'm still having the same Kernel Panic error msg
[07:32] <joe_joe_joe> atempted to kill init....
[07:32] <Ace2016> Hi all i need help
[07:32] <aalhamad> so i need to enable a proxy..
[07:32] <gozert> Nukeador: thats strange... everything should be back to defaults
[07:32] <ikonia> aalhamad: so you need to have a proxy
[07:32] <Ace2016> but its a bit off topic
[07:32] <aalhamad> i guess many sites give the out..
[07:32] <Goldenphoenix> Webspot: whats in your /etc/modules with relating ndiswrapper?
[07:32] <aalhamad> on 8080 port
[07:33] <faemir> joe_joe_joe dodgy iso then
[07:33] <Ace2016> Anyone know what the song is in this video?  http://www.funny-videos.co.uk/404.php
[07:33] <pavs> whats the most important linux certification?
[07:33] <Ace2016> i don't know why the error page has a song but i like it
[07:33] <Nukeador> gozert, is a big problem since i can log in into ubutu normal mode because os this issue
[07:33] <ikonia> pavs: personal opinion
[07:33] <gozert> pavs: LPI level 3 imho (which is beta)
[07:33] <joe_joe_joe> faemir what do you mean with dodgy iso...?...
[07:33] <faemir> joe_joe_joe, it's corrupt
[07:33] <pavs> LPI?
[07:34] <faemir> probably have to redownload the iso
[07:34] <Webspot> Goldenphoenix: It's a line at the bottom
[07:34] <faemir> joe_joe_joe, you didn't check the md5 though did you
[07:34] <gozert> Nukeador: i'm sorry, could you please reformulate that?
[07:34] <arphetic> faemir: you should 'v checked the md5 huid
[07:34] <Kresjah> Very well. Basically, I have my laptop here running an ATI Mobility M1 (8MB). Getting GL working on it is hell. On windows (I just recently switched to ubuntu, so I'm still a newbie to all this) was impossible, and even though I have found some for linux, they have a lot of issues
[07:34] <arphetic> s/huid/hash
[07:34] <gozert> pavs: you _should_ know about LPI if you're interested in linux certification
[07:34] <joe_joe_joe> faemir, you mean like chech the disk after the burning, with the same software?
[07:34] <pavs> I am new to linux :)
[07:35] <gozert> ohhhh then don't try getting certified now
[07:35] <Goldenphoenix> webspot: is there an "alias" in this line?
[07:35] <pavs> I will googl it
[07:35] <ikonia> pavs: so forget about certification until your not new
[07:35] <gozert> get more acquainted first
[07:35] <jman_> anybody here have experience with virtualbox?
[07:35] <faemir> joe_joe_joe, try that test, and see what it says
[07:35] <gozert> and try several different distros
[07:35] <arphetic> !openGL
[07:35] <Webspot> Goldenphoenix: what do you mean alias?
[07:35] <Nukeador> gozert, i mean if i run ubuntu in normal mode, i get a blank screen instead of the login screen, then i start ubuntu in recovery mode, and run gdm manually (i get and error with HAL, normal if all the services are off) and log into the system
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <pavs> I think I will go for linux+ to get me started somewhere
[07:36] <faemir> msg joe_joe_joe tell me when you have done that
[07:36] <arphetic> Kresjah: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:36] <gozert> Nukeador: strange... have you set gdm to auto login?
[07:36] <ikonia> pavs: how about just play with linux
[07:36] <Kresjah> I've been searching on the net through all kinds of how-to's, and basically found one on how to get the binary snapshots running on ubuntu. The newest snapshots are from 20060403 (development has stopped it seems), and from reading several other threads on it, these binaries has an issue where polygons drawn outside off the screen goes missing.
[07:36] <ikonia> pavs: forget certification
[07:36] <Goldenphoenix> if there stands "alias" in this line or is there only "ndiswrapper" alone
[07:36] <Nukeador> gozert, no, i read about that but my gdm has not autologin enable
[07:36] <Kresjah> arphetic: I'm currently running feisty herd3, although I had this issue with Edgy too
[07:36] <Webspot> Goldenphoenix: just ndiswrapper alone
[07:37] <pavs> certification will give me motivation to learn even harder , me thinks
[07:37] <arphetic> I have no experience with either feisty or Edgy, but hold on
[07:37] <Kresjah> But in one of the topics out there, someone said that the polygon issue seems to be something with the binaries, and building the mesa/dri source rather than using binaries solves the problem.
[07:37] <ikonia> pavs: you'll get no-one with out just playing
[07:37] <ikonia> s/no-one/no-where
[07:37] <aalhamad> is there a way i can set my own proxy?
[07:37] <Goldenphoenix> what is the chip on your Card, Webspot
[07:37] <gozert> pavs: try running a webserver, dns server, samba, etc etc. create complete (virtual) networks, try creating rpm and deb packages, try out lots of distros like slackware, debian, suse, fedora, ubutu (ofcourse), and read a good buck like running linux or linux in a nutshell
[07:37] <ikonia> aalhamad: not if your behind a firewall thats causing your problems
[07:37] <Kresjah> So, I've been trying to build mesa/dri based on the guide here: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building
[07:38] <gozert> and forget nice GUIs, run everything from terminal windows or virtual consoles
[07:38] <Webspot> Goldenphoenix: atheros
[07:38] <Webspot> Goldenphoenix: gtg. ill come back to #ubuntu later
[07:38] <aalhamad> ikonia, then if i want to surf anonymouse what shall i do?
[07:38] <Kresjah> I managed to get myself to 1.6, but there's where my problems with getting the sources working started.
[07:38] <aatdark> does any one know how the get german for openoffice ..?
[07:38] <gozert> Nukeador: can you run X :1 from a virtual console?
[07:38] <gozert> Nukeador: does that give a gray mesh?
[07:38] <ikonia> aalhamad: you'll need an external proxy
[07:39] <arphetic> pavs: you might better start with some e-Books on linux or something
[07:39] <aalhamad> ikonia, is there a wiki i can reffer ?
[07:39] <pavs> gozert thanks for your list :) I have done the the first 3 of them and on my secondbook now (linux bible, and novell Linux+ guide)
[07:39] <Kresjah> I'll just hold a bit so that people can catch up with my non-talking :p
[07:39] <Nukeador> gozert, i cant do ctrl+alt+f1 in the blank screen unfortunately
[07:39] <gozert> pavs: great :)
[07:39] <Kresjah> non-stop that should be
[07:39] <gozert> Nukeador: ohhh it locks up hmm
[07:39] <freshfish> anyone installed ubuntu 6.10 on a thinkpad T60p 2623? If so how do you like it compared to Suse
[07:39] <ikonia> aalhamad: your not getting it - if your being blocked, you need a proxy on your network thats not blocked - you can't just "have one"
[07:39] <gozert> Nukeador: so you dont get X at all?
[07:40] <amar>  can anyone plz explain me how to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to 6.10......... i'm a newbie...
[07:40] <ikonia> freshfish: I've run it on a T60
[07:40] <pavs> arphatic I have hacking ubuntu e-book, very interesting i havent read it yet
[07:40] <ikonia> pavs: how do you know its interesting if you've not read it ?
[07:40] <freshfish> ATI drivers work ok?
[07:40] <ikonia> freshfish: yup
[07:40] <Nukeador> gozert, i do X :1 and i get a grey screen yes
[07:40] <aalhamad> ikonia, ok now i get you..thanks
[07:40] <gozert> amar: download the Ubuntu 6.06.1 Alternate CD
[07:40] <pavs> i went through couple of pages fro the middle
[07:40] <freshfish> fingerprint reader?
[07:40] <gozert> amar: then insert that while its running
[07:40] <ikonia> freshfish: didn't use that
[07:40] <gozert> amar: it should autodetect the new version and ask you if you want to upgrade
[07:40] <aalhamad> ikonia, what sites offers other proxy.. cause i can't go on trial and error
[07:41] <Nukeador> gozert, but in normal mode there is no X at all
[07:41] <comradeC> how do you tell what module is associated with a device like eth1?
[07:41] <gozert> Nukeador: weird :D
[07:41] <ikonia> pavs: thats crap - you can't base a topic you know nothing about as "interesting" based on a few pages of a book you've not read
[07:41] <Flustrated> okay, so I figured out that my HDTV is cutting off part of the screen due to overscan in a factory mode (720p), does anyone know how to go about fixing this?
[07:41] <freshfish> so last Q, did it work "Out of the box"?
[07:41] <ikonia> aalhamad: it doesn't matter what sites offer proxys - if you can't get to them on your network
[07:41] <ikonia> freshfish: yes it did
[07:41] <Flustrated> I used to be able to fix the overscan issue in Windows XP by setting the resolution of the TV to one setting under 1080i
[07:41] <freshfish> man thx good news *_^
[07:41] <n|RaY> hey guys :D
[07:41] <rahmetli> why do you use gnome? i really wonder. is it just the matter of taste?
[07:41] <jahid> can anyone tel me, how can i make my firefox to play media files? like songs and videos?
[07:41] <ikonia> freshfish: no problem
[07:42] <Nukeador> gozert, i think that i get the blank screen cause in normal mode no service es loaded
[07:42] <ikonia> rahmetli: personal taste
[07:42] <gozert> Nukeador: i think not
[07:42] <jaldrich> Flustrated:  you  not in  16x9  format  your in 4x3
[07:42] <Flustrated> jaldrich: are you sure?  The resolution showed as 720p
[07:42] <pavs> ikonia "interesting" is an opinion, you may not share it.
[07:42] <jaldrich> so
[07:43] <n|RaY> how i fix this problem: If i start Firefox and loads a site with Java, firefox crashs :/
[07:43] <jaldrich> 720  by what   4x3
[07:43] <unop> comradeC,  i think ethtool might be able to tell you
[07:43] <ikonia> pavs: its like me reading a few pages of atomic fusion - and saying "interesting topic" I know nothing about atomic fusion, so I can't make that call reading a few pages on a topic I know nothing about
[07:43] <jaldrich> 720  is just the rez
[07:43] <Nukeador> gozert, so what can i do?
[07:43] <Raskall> any known problems with evolution-exchange in feisty? Cannot authenticate against the exchange-server
[07:43] <Flustrated> jaldrich: nah, it was 720p, 16:9 ratio, I divided them out on a calculator when I read the resolution and it was correct, or it seemed to be, maybe not
[07:43] <Flustrated> heh
[07:44] <gozert> Nukeador: you _could_ try disabling usplash, or running a different dm
[07:44] <jaldrich> 90% of the market  use 720 is a 4x3 format
[07:44] <unop> Raskall,  can you logon and use the exchange-server with other clients?
[07:44] <n|RaY> how i fix this problem: If i start Firefox and loads a site with Java, firefox crashs :/
[07:44] <amar> gozert:i have downloaded 6.10...... but when dat gparted window appears it gets struck there......
[07:44] <gozert> Nukeador: though i really don't know what exactly causes this weird behavior... maybe if you look at the xorg log file
[07:44] <Raskall> unop: with outlook, yes. :)
[07:44] <Flustrated> jaldrich: nope, it was correct, resolution was rated at 1280x720, which is 16:9
[07:44] <gozert> amar: you can't upgrade 5.10 to 6.10
[07:44] <comradeC> does anyone here have a broadcom 4138 wireless
[07:44] <pavs> ikinio, its an "interesting topic" because it interests you, you dont necessarilly have to know everything about it. like I said its a perssonal opinion.
[07:45] <Raskall> unop: I guess I miss some kerberos-stuff.
[07:45] <gozert> amar: upgrade to 6.06 first
[07:45] <Nukeador> gozert, .Xsessions-errors?
[07:45] <jaldrich> ok  then your not setting in the begainning to a 16x9
[07:45] <Anil> hi
[07:45] <amar> k ........ temme how to do dat
[07:45] <gozert> Nukeador: /var/log/Xorg.log.0 iirc
[07:45] <Nukeador> gozert, k
[07:45] <ikonia> pavs: but how do you know it interests you when you know nothing about it ?
[07:45] <amar> i wanna to do it manually
[07:45] <gozert> Nukeador: before launching another X server
[07:45] <Flustrated> jaldrich: it's the resolution that reconfiguring the thing auto-detected, because it couldn't find the mode I tried to enter it into I presume
[07:45] <jaldrich> and depends on how its broad casted
[07:45] <Nino> Oo
[07:45] <amar> i think we can do dat using some code......
[07:46] <unop> Raskall,  verify you are using the exact same settings in evolution  .. maybe grab a howto and have a go that way too
[07:46] <Flustrated> jaldrich: I'm talking about hooking my HDTV up to the computer, it cuts off the menubar, etc.
[07:46] <unop> bbl
[07:46] <jaldrich> yes  me to
[07:46] <gozert> Nukeador: good luck with your troubles, i gotta go
[07:46] <jaldrich> are you using dvi ? or componet
[07:46] <Nukeador> gozert, thanks
[07:47] <Flustrated> jaldrich: my guess is this: WinXP had overscan in these modes too.  My guess is that in regular TV resolutions, (ie 720p and 1080i) you get overscan because the monitor is assuming it needs it because it's broacast content
[07:47] <gozert> Nukeador: you can always disable gdm with update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[07:47] <gozert> Nukeador: then log in to the console and run startx
[07:47] <Flustrated> jaldrich: DVI
[07:47] <Nukeador> aha
[07:47] <gozert> cya ./
[07:47] <pavs> ikonio not reading the book doesnt mean i know nothing about it. the book title was hacking ubuntu , I know ubuntu, and by hacking it basically was referring to messing with setings and importing e-mail froom windowz boz in unconventional way. definately interesting as far as i am concerned even though I dont know how to do it yet.
[07:47] <jaldrich> if you broadcast is 720p
[07:47] <ikonia> pavs: then why did you say you where new to linux - if you know ubuntu ?
[07:47] <jaldrich> your video card might only be 4x3
[07:48] <amaru> fr ???
[07:48] <jaldrich> not 16x9
[07:48] <Pici> !fr | amaru
[07:48] <ubotu> amaru: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:48] <Flustrated> jaldrich: not so, I had this working in WinXP
[07:48] <comradeC> I have this problem with broadcom 4138 wireless, I've used ndiswrapper before but not with this card, the odd thing is that ubuntu detects this and installs it as eth1 on my system, but I can't do anything with it like search for essids or anything... I was trying to find the module it is using so I can unload it and use ndiswrapper
[07:48] <jaldrich> so
[07:48] <jaldrich> what is your point
[07:48] <Flustrated> jaldrich: so my card is 16x9
[07:48] <pavs> 3 weeks == new, I would say.
[07:48] <Flustrated> it's not the card
[07:48] <BusMaster> why can't I copy the .dat files in the mpegav folder of a vcd using linux?  Ican very well do it in windows, but linux simply says input/output error
[07:48] <Flustrated> the TV is overscanning the picture in these modes
[07:48] <Flustrated> is there a software way to correct that?
[07:48] <jaldrich> tv use a diffrent res
[07:48] <ikonia> pavs: so 3 weeks = not know ubuntu
[07:48] <qos> hey guys ... i want to install scribes. but it isnt in my packetmanager. i have enabled multiverse and universe in repository ... does anyone know why i cant find it?
[07:49] <jaldrich> lines of resalution
[07:49] <pavs> now 3 weeks == is still new to ubuntu.
[07:49] <Flustrated> jaldrich: where can I find the resolutions my TV can support?  I knew one that worked in WinXP but I didn't write it down or anything and now I no longer have XP installed
[07:50] <Breetai> Hi all, I am running edgy. Anyone have any idea how to get sound in VMWare?
[07:50] <arphetic> Im using ubuntu for 1 week now, but I have used Red Hat a lot before, and I have a certain experience. Besides that I read a lot of docs on several linux subjects. I know what I want to know, I just aint some walking encyclopedia knowing a solution to all problems.
[07:50] <gleiss> Breetai: have you installed the client components?
[07:51] <kiwii> hi, does linux-image-386 have ext3 module installed ?
[07:51] <Flustrated> jaldrich: I'd be willing to settle for 720p if I could fix the overscan, but how do I do that?
[07:51] <jaldrich> your tv  will only out put what the card does
[07:51] <pavs> arphetic exactly my sentiment you dont have to be a genius in a topic to know that a book might be interesting based on reading couple of pages
[07:51] <Pici> kiwii: Yes
[07:52] <jetzi06> hello, how can i deactivate the touchpad of my laptop? there is no entry in the Xorg.conf
[07:52] <aLFiB> does anyone knows what error is this: E: gtk-engines-eazel: subprocesso post-installation script retornou cdigo de sada de error 2 ?
[07:52] <mrpoundsign> ok...  ugh, I am going to have to kill pppd + dhcpd :)
[07:52] <jaldrich> u might try to  with your remote  changing your screen size
[07:52] <aLFiB> it happens when i try to install NVIDIA packages
[07:52] <Flustrated> jaldrich: my TV remote?
[07:52] <jaldrich> yes
[07:52] <kiwii> pici: i installed this by apt-get, and I got error in Grub
[07:52] <n|RaY> how i fix this problem: If i start Firefox and loads a site with Java, firefox crashs :/
[07:52] <Flustrated> jaldrich: tried, no settings
[07:52] <Flustrated> I wish that they'd truly make these TVs like monitors
[07:52] <Flustrated> and give you the ability to adjust picture dimensions
[07:52] <jaldrich> then  that is what the tv will do
[07:53] <Pici> kiwii: can you paste/pastebin the error?
[07:53] <arphetic> pavs: I was more refering to know how to fix all bugs. I'm fimilar with the terminal, and linux itself. Ubuntu is not really THAT different from Redhat to be honest, and there is nice support for it. Eventhough I still dont have the solution for my errormessages problem ^^
[07:53] <jaldrich> you can;t compair apple and oranges
[07:53] <Flustrated> jaldrich: not exactly apples and oranges, but whatever
[07:53] <Flustrated> haha
[07:53] <pudland> xserver help please, crashed after restricted modules update
[07:53] <jaldrich> xp use a closed format driver
[07:53] <pavs> nIray what site? i want to see if i can replicate it
[07:53] <jaldrich> ubuntu use a open  driver format
[07:53] <Breetai> gleiss: yes, but when I turn sound on, I get an error failed to open sound device /dev/dsp device not found
[07:54] <Flustrated> actually I'm using an nvidia binary driver
[07:54] <Flustrated> haha
[07:54] <Breetai> or cannot be opened
[07:54] <kiwii> Pici: I think its a common error, VFS: cannot open root device "hda2"
[07:54] <Flustrated> but whatever you like
[07:54] <n|RaY> how i fix this problem: If i start Firefox and loads a site with Java, firefox crashs :/
[07:54] <jaldrich> i'v been in broadcast  for a very long time
[07:54] <pavs> arphetic main differance IMO is that red hat uses KDE as their main XDM
[07:54] <ikonia> pavs: thats nonsense
[07:55] <pavs> termianl commands in most linux distros are universally same AFAIK
[07:55] <ikonia> pavs: the layout of components and the package managment is the main difference
[07:55] <jaldrich> and all so what are you using  nivida
[07:55] <arphetic> True
[07:55] <pavs> ikonia calling me crap and now nonsense:)
[07:55] <jaldrich> or ati
[07:55] <ikonia> pavs: I didn't call you crap
[07:55] <gleiss> Breetai: ls /dev/dsp?
[07:55] <ikonia> pavs: I said your statment was nonsense
[07:56] <pavs> ok whatever makes you happy
[07:56] <qos> hey guys ... i want to install scribes. but it isnt in my packetmanager. i have enabled multiverse and universe in repository ... does anyone know why i cant find it?
[07:56] <ikonia> pavs: its not about making me happy - you just made a wrong statment
[07:56] <ikonia> how are you meant to learn if you can't take that critisism
[07:56] <pbureau> you two need a room ?
[07:56] <pbureau> lol
[07:56] <ikonia> no thanks
[07:56] <gleiss> qos: did you do an update after chaning the source config?
[07:57] <pavs> ikonia package management in most major distro are differant anyways
[07:57] <comradeC> what does it mean to unblacklist something?
[07:57] <Pici> kiwii: is your rout filesystem on hda2?
[07:57] <ikonia> pavs: not really as there are only 3 or 4 main ones, but the 3 or 4 main ones are the ones that seperate themselves
[07:57] <ardchoille> ikonia, pavs, Please take the off-topic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic . This channel is for Ubuntu specific support.
[07:57] <kiwii> Pici: yes
[07:58] <Minuo> Is there a [somewhat]  simple way to get the ubuntu install CD to give me a ssh session and a text-mode installer?  I want to install Ubuntu on a headless server and I don't have a monitor handy
[07:58] <ikonia> ardchoille: apologiese, got caught up
[07:58] <kiwii> Pici: and swap is on hda1
[07:58] <ikonia> Minuo: the cd doesn't come with ssh server
[07:58] <pavs> oops
[07:58] <pavs> what happened
[07:58] <ardchoille> Minuo: You'll need to use the alternate cd to get a text-based install
[07:59] <Minuo> ardchoille: Will the alternate CD have an SSH server?
[07:59] <pavs> Ikonia: i said major distros.
[07:59] <ardchoille> Minuo: _that_ I don't know
[07:59] <ikonia> Minuo: no
[07:59] <qos> gleiss, sure. it is enabled since months... do u know the exact packet name?
[07:59] <pbureau> pavs take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:00] <Minuo> I can plug a keyboard in and take my best guess as to what commands I will need to type to get an ssh server running
[08:00] <pavs> ok
[08:00] <Minuo> I've done it with Gentoo, but this computer is slow as crap so I don't want to have to do that
[08:00] <comradeC> what does it mean by saying that I need to unblacklist bcm34xx
[08:00] <pbureau> Minuo, you dont even have a basic monitor handy ? driving blind man your desperate for it eh ?
[08:01] <gleiss> qos: mmm... I confused it with Scribus
[08:01] <Minuo> pbureau: It's a giant CRT out in my garage.  I'll get it if I have to but I'd rather not
[08:01] <pbureau> comradeC,  sudo pico /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and remove the bcm43xx from the list CTL-X and save the file
[08:01] <Kresjah> Hmm... I've followed the instructions of the DRI wiki install on how to build DRI/Mesa so far, but at point 1.6, it says that I should copy the driver files from mesa/lib to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri ... However, there are two issues; 1. the modules folder does not exist. I could probably mkdir it, but I get the feeling that there's more to that issue than so. 2. The command line they said I should use (cp lib/*_dri.so /usr/X11R6/lib/modu
[08:02] <kiwii> pico: should I recompile kernel ? or there is a problem in grub configuration
[08:02] <joe_joe_joe> hey is there any way I can check my cd with md5, but from windows?
[08:02] <jetzi06> hello, how can i deactivate the touchpad of my laptop? there is no entry in the Xorg.conf
[08:02] <Yodude> hey i have a question about beagle, can i make it the default search engine for my system instead of the default search in ubuntu?
[08:02] <ikonia> k
[08:02] <gleiss> qos: scribes could be in an external, "3rd party" repository
[08:02] <ikonia> Kresjah: what card are you using
[08:02] <technomancy> if i install with the boot parameter "acpi=off" will that only affect that boot, or will all future uses of that installation be unable to use acpi?
[08:02] <qos> gleiss, thank u ... why is it called scribus? i thought the program is called scribes ...
[08:03] <joe_joe_joe> hey is there any way I can check my cd with md5, but from windows?
[08:03] <Yodude> hymntilife: can you help me with something?
[08:03] <pbureau> technomancy, if it does, you could reinstall it afterwards and enable it afterwards ...
[08:03] <OlgaB> How do I change the gamma in gnome?
[08:03] <Kresjah> ikonia: The dreaded ATI Mobility M1 (Mach64)
[08:03] <gleiss> qos: scribus is a page layout editor.  Aren't you looking for the text editor?
[08:03] <technomancy> pbureau: i could, but the installer fails to load on my machine unless I disable acpi =(
[08:03] <technomancy> (this is edgy 64-bit on a core 2 duo laptop)
[08:03] <qos> gleiss, i am looking for the text editor ;)
[08:04] <Breetai> gleiss: it is there,  crw-rw---- root,audio 14, 3 /dev/dsp and the audio group contains the correct user.
[08:04] <ikonia> technomancy: that doesn't remove it from the kernel  - just disables it. Just remove the line from the boot parameters and it will use it
[08:04] <pbureau> technomancy, no you did not understand what I said, run apci=off if it remains off and you want it later, install it again. when you use a parameter it usually means for this install (thus not installing apci)
[08:04] <technomancy> ikonia: ok, cool. i can just edit the grub config files later then?
[08:04] <ikonia> yup
[08:04] <pbureau> yep
[08:04] <funkyzire> hey guys i need your help:
[08:04] <technomancy> ok, thanks!
[08:05] <funkyzire> i have a partition with xubuntu
[08:05] <pbureau> !ask | funkyzire
[08:05] <ubotu> funkyzire: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:05] <technomancy> hopefully failing to boot with ACPI is only a problem with the installer and not with ubuntu in general on my machine.
[08:05] <joe_joe_joe> hey is there any way I can check my cd with md5, but from windows?
[08:05] <Kresjah> ikonia: I tried the binary snapshots of mach64 mesa before I switched from edgy to feisty, but polygons rendering offscreen would not draw properly. From a topic I found back then (which I lost the link to) the polygon drawing issue was for some very odd reasons only happening in the binaries, but should supposedly work correctly if built from sources which is why I'm building from the sources this time.
[08:05] <ikonia> joe_joe_joe: join #windows
[08:05] <gleiss> Breetai: That's all I have.  That and virtualbox.org
[08:05] <funkyzire> and i want completly delete it and use it with my standart ubuntu as a normal data-partition ext3
[08:06] <pbureau> joe_joe_joe, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=md5%2C+but+from+windows&btnG=Google+Search
[08:06] <gleiss> qos: I can only suggest a web search
[08:07] <chezz99> 
[08:07] <pbureau> !jp | chezz99
[08:07] <ubotu> chezz99:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[08:08] <arphetic> I was just gnna try nd translate that ^^
[08:08] <chezz99> I am chinanese
[08:08] <arphetic> !ch | chezz99
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <arphetic> chezz99: this is international chan, try english
[08:08] <HymnToLife> !cn
[08:08] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:08] <Yodude> is there anyone who can help me with Beagle?
[08:09] <HymnToLife> ch is Switzerland :p
[08:09] <bulishko> zdarova narod!!!!!
[08:09] <arphetic> eh lawl ye soz typo :P
[08:09] <kiwii> is 2.6.17 good version or should I install other ?
[08:09] <calvarez> .cn is china
[08:09] <tomekdd> hi all
[08:09] <bulishko> hi bot
[08:09] <chezz99> thanks
[08:09] <calvarez> kiwii, it's fine
[08:09] <HymnToLife> kiwii, it should be good enough for you
[08:09] <arphetic> kiwii you can update it after install I think ;)
[08:09] <kiwii> with ext3 support bultin ?
[08:10] <Nukeador> hi again
[08:10] <ikonia> kiwii: why do you want to change your kernel ?
[08:10] <HymnToLife> ext3 support exists since 2.4.15 IIRC
[08:10] <HymnToLife> so 2.6.17 certainly has it :p
[08:10] <ikonia> HymnToLife: exactly
[08:10] <Nukeador> I run services-admin in a terminal, the settings doest save but i see and error: (services-admin:5633): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: oobs_service_set_runlevel_configuration: assertion `runlevel != NULL' failed
[08:11] <Yodude> hymnToLife: can you help me please?
[08:11] <ikonia> Yodude: whats up
[08:11] <kiwii> ikonia, i  try to install ubuntu on computer which doesnt have cd and floppy, so I boot pxe from Knoppix liveCD
[08:11] <calvarez> libboobs? :o ;)
[08:11] <HymnToLife> Yodude, not if you don't ask a question
[08:11] <kiwii> i got install linux-image, add new lines to grub
[08:11] <Nukeador> why service-admin doesnt save the settings? :S
[08:11] <ikonia> kiwii: so what does that have to do with why you want to update the kernel  ?
[08:11] <kiwii> by my system gets an error
[08:11] <Yodude> whassup iKonida
[08:11] <arphetic> kiwii: how do you load liveCD if you dont have a cd player?
[08:11] <ikonia> kiwii: whats the error ?
[08:11] <kiwii> ikonia: cannot open root device "hda2"
[08:11] <ikonia> arphetic: he net boots
[08:12] <Yodude> i have a question about beagle: can it be set as the default search engine?
[08:12] <kiwii> ikonia: it cant read ext3 partition..
[08:12] <arphetic> Ah okey :)
[08:12] <Yodude> i really don't like the default engine in ubuntu
[08:12] <Raskall> unop: got the exchange plugin working. I didn't know that I had to use the owa server address.
[08:12] <cmt^^> Anyone using Skype here? I can't get my mic to work
[08:12] <kiwii> arphetic: live boot on laptop, and then netboot
[08:12] <calvarez> yodude, what do you mean by engine?
[08:12] <erUSUL> !skype
[08:12] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:12] <Pici> kiwii: Sorry, I was away from the computer, it just occured to me, are you just putting in hda2 or /dev/hda2 ?
[08:12] <HymnToLife> ikonia, if you stuck with the default kernel, of course it can
[08:12] <ikonia> kiwii: no - it can't see your disk
[08:12] <arphetic> yeah I figured ;)
[08:12] <pbureau> cmt^^,  using gnome ? make dure Alsa doesnt have it as muted
[08:13] <ikonia> HymnToLife: it can what ?
[08:13] <arphetic> !webcam
[08:13] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:13] <HymnToLife> read ext3
[08:13] <kiwii> when i try to install linux-image it warns me to configure LILO
[08:13] <ikonia> HymnToLife: I know
[08:13] <ikonia> I didn't say it couldn't
[08:13] <kiwii> but if i use Grub do i have to configure Lilo ?
[08:13] <HymnToLife> sorry, that was to kiwii :p
[08:13] <ikonia> kiwii: I think you may want to check your docs - pxe booting has nothing to do with a boot loader
[08:13] <pbureau> <- tries Kunbuntu yesterday... man the 149 updates just mess the setup completly...lol thank god for Gnome
[08:13] <GaiaX11> suppose that I go to the shop today and buy a modern HP printer will i find the drivers to install it in ubuntu?
[08:13] <calvarez> kiwii, nah, if you're using grub you're set
[08:14] <ikonia> Yodude: no idea
[08:14] <pbureau> GaiaX11, why what printer you have ?
[08:14] <cmt^^> pbureau - i did that, but it doesn't work
[08:14] <calvarez> GaiaX11, you should be able to get any printer, I'd recommend you make sure before you go buy it though
[08:14] <Yodude> maybe if i just uninstall the other search function it will be the default seeing it's obviously the ONLY one
[08:14] <PhilH> Hi Guys, Does anyone know of a nice simple way to convert videos to 3GP format for use on a mobile phone?
[08:15] <ikonia> Yodude: search the forums
[08:15] <kiwii> ikonia: i use pxe booting only to install ubuntu, and then i want to use normal boot from grub
[08:15] <Serg1> hello, i just installed ubuntu and i have a question.. why the totem can't play mp3
[08:15] <PhilH> there are dozens of converters for windows but not a lot in the way of linux stuff
[08:15] <pbureau> PhilH, check http://www.freshmeat.net/
[08:15] <PhilH> pbureau, have done
[08:15] <calvarez> yodude, rephrase the question. What do you mean by engine?
[08:15] <Serg1> how to play mp3 music in ubuntu
[08:15] <Pici> !mp3 | serg1
[08:15] <ubotu> serg1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:15] <calvarez> !mp3
[08:16] <Yodude> cavarez: like in firefox, the default searsh engine is google
[08:16] <pbureau> GaiaX11, so what the make/model of your printer ?
[08:16] <arphetic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech <- I have a quickcam messenger, and I use Dapper Drake. How can I figure out what package/driver I should install (I heared it was supported in the latest linux kernels...)
[08:16] <Yodude> here it's the same: i want Beagle to be the default Search engine for ubuntu
[08:16] <GaiaX11> calvarez: pbureau Where do I find a list of HP printers supported by ubuntu?
[08:16] <calvarez> you're talking of the search engine for firefox?
[08:16] <Yodude> and want it to be the engine of the deskbar search
[08:16] <HymnToLife> Yodude, you know, UBuntu is not a browser...
[08:16] <Serg1> how to install this all with terminal?
[08:17] <Yodude> lol
[08:17] <arphetic> all this what?
[08:17] <adamonline45> How do I exit gnome and all GUI stuff entirely, and get to just the command line?
[08:17] <Yodude> HymnToLife: it's a revolution
[08:17] <Serg1> of codecs etc. to play mp3 music
[08:17] <PhilH> Any other ideas on the 3GP video front?
[08:17] <GaiaX11> pbureau: I want to buy one modern HP. So where do I find a supported ubuntu list?
[08:17] <HymnToLife> well, I really can't see what "the search engine for ubuntu" refers to
[08:17] <arphetic> ctrl+alt+f1 adamonline45 brings you in shell for start
[08:17] <pbureau> GaiaX11,  if you use your web browser and type in http://localhost:631 you will get a web interface for Cups, click on add printer  and check the list , but they carry pretty much all HP printers
[08:18] <adamonline45> arphetic: That will eliminate any processor and memory overhead from gnome?
[08:18] <nofxx> how to use apt-get on other directory? ie.: ltsp chroot
[08:18] <Serg1> i don't want to read
[08:18] <GaiaX11> pbureau: thx :-)
[08:18] <Pici> PhilH: It looks like mencoder can re-encode to 3gp, check out it's man pages for details
[08:18] <Serg1> =] 
[08:18] <pbureau> Serg1, then use windows
[08:18] <arphetic> nofxx: man apt-get
[08:18] <Serg1> i want to listen music
[08:18] <thor> hi all
[08:18] <arphetic> !apt-get
[08:18] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:19] <minimec> Hi. I installed edgy with the live CD. Installation was done without any error. The problem is, that I can't boot now. The system hangs on grub without error... Is there a posibility to rewrite the boot sector with the live disk?
[08:19] <Yodude> HymnToLife: like when you go to Places-Search, it's the default search engine in ubuntu
[08:19] <stephen> what is firefox name for killall command
[08:19] <mlpug> is there some uname or other command to find out what ubuntu is this? dapper or edgy?
[08:19] <adamonline45> minimec: Is there a flashing cursor under the text "GRUB"?
[08:19] <Serg1> i'll read the ubuntu faq, hope to get some help
[08:19] <minimec> stephen: hmmm firefox-bin i think
[08:19] <Yodude> HymnToLife: i want to replace that TOTALLY by beagle
[08:19] <kiwii> hmm maybe i got problem because I had intrd instead of initrd :D
[08:19] <technomancy> mlpug: more /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:19] <minimec> adamonline45: one moment
[08:19] <pbureau> !gstreamer | Serg1
[08:19] <stephen> yeah that did it
[08:19] <stephen> ty
[08:19] <HymnToLife> can't help you with this, I haven't used ubuntu for ages
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <thor> does anyone know how to check what kind of drivers my wireless card is using? It's working fine just want to check what driver is used by the kernel
[08:20] <minimec> adamonline45: Yes there is...
[08:20] <technomancy> ok, i've got a situation where enabling acpi in edgy causes booting to fail. (does not happen with fiesty) is it likely that upgrading my kernel will solve the problem? can i upgrade just the kernel without going all the way to feisty?
[08:20] <Pici> thor: try lsmod to list the currently active modules
[08:20] <Yodude> HymnToLife: lol? what are you using now then?
[08:20] <adamonline45> minimec: I had that same problem with an ubuntu-server install on an old pentuim 2... The BIOS doesn't know how to read disks larger than 8gb
[08:21] <cypherdelic> I need help setting up an encrypted Root-FS for Edgy 6.10, any experts? I got error during startup: "no cryptroot configfured, skipping"
[08:21] <HymnToLife> Yodude, right now, I'm on Debian
[08:21] <pbureau> !GStreamer | Serg1
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <Serg1> pbureau i have check and it's seems that all gstream codecs are installed for my system
[08:21] <Yodude> oh
[08:21] <Serg1> "gstreamer"
[08:21] <adamonline45> minimec: The only way I was able to get it working was to create a physical partition that was 8GB in size, for the root directory
[08:21] <cypherdelic> Anyone familia with cryptsetup-luks for edgy 6.10? please
[08:22] <Jordan_1> is there anyone who wants to be a moderator of a forum here ??? whisper me please !!!
[08:22] <jarg> heya all, i want to download a live cd, my question is, is the same iso? so i don't found a live cd iso
[08:22] <Vilhelms> jarg: Its teh same as the installation iso
[08:22] <ikonia> Jordan_1: probably not appropriate to ask in here
[08:22] <HymnToLife> jarg, the live cd's are the "desktop" ones
[08:22] <adamonline45> minimec: I just put my home directory on a second partition.  The MBR is not the issue, the problem is that when the BIOS tries to read the necessary kernel information it can't find it because it's potentially more than 8gb away from the start of the disk
[08:22] <minimec> adamonline45: it is a 8 GB disk... So I have to flash the BIOS? Oh. So I should do some more partitions... like 4GB for root 512mb swap and the rest for home?
[08:22] <jarg> thanks
[08:23] <cypherdelic> I need help setting up an encrypted Root-FS for Edgy 6.10, any experts? I got error during startup: "no cryptroot configfured, skipping"
[08:23] <thor> Pici: i only get ath_pci. I should have something about madfifi or atheros...
[08:23] <adamonline45> minimec: Once Ubuntu loads, however, it can read the whole disk fine...
[08:23] <Pici> thor: ath_pci sounds like atheros to me
[08:23] <pbureau> thor you have an atheros wifi ? did you install madwifi ?
[08:23] <Jordan_1> if there is someone who wants to join an adult forum , please whisper me !
[08:23] <minimec> adamonline45: THx a lot... That just means that I have to do the whole procedure again... ;)
[08:23] <pbureau> Jordan_1,  go away
[08:24] <HymnToLife> !ops [ Jordan_1 is spamming the channel
[08:24] <thor> no i did not install madwifi. my wifi card is wg311T netgear
[08:24] <nAruto_Elrond> salut
[08:24] <Serg1> salut:):)
[08:24] <ikonia> Jordan_1: is already leaving......;)
[08:24] <adamonline45> minimec: Hmm, well that's interesting then!  Flashing the BIOS may help, as well as creating a smaller partition for the root directory.  What are the specs of your machine?  Yeah, I think it took me about 4 installs to get it working :) Good luck!
[08:24] <kiwii> ok my system is working :D
[08:24] <kiwii> thank you guys :D
[08:24] <Vilhelms> My network manager can't find any of my network devices
[08:24] <thor> Pici: it sounds like :) ? how can i make sure?
[08:24] <cypherdelic> I need help setting up an encrypted Root-FS for Edgy 6.10, any experts? I got error during startup: "no cryptroot configfured, skipping"
[08:25] <Serg1> it's seems that gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is not included to be installed with synaptic manager
[08:25] <PriceChild> !ops
[08:25] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:25] <tat> cypherdelic: read /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/CryptoRoot.HowTo
[08:25] <ikonia> cypherdelic: for a root FS - are you sure about that
[08:26] <minimec> adamonline45: its PIII 400 with 256MB RAM and a ATI Rage 128. I just wanted to use that machine as a simple client. That's why I didn't do any 'partitioning' ....
[08:26] <pbureau> thor do you plugged it in and does lspci see the hardware ? what does it report it as being ?
[08:26] <pbureau> Vilhelms, type lspci and tell us the network card you using ?
[08:26] <adamonline45> minimec: I learned a lot from ubotu's links regarding grub... It's odd that you're getting that error with just an 8GB disk...  Perhaps it's a similar issue, but your BIOS can only handle an even smaller root partition than the typical 8GB...
[08:26] <cypherdelic> tat. i read that its completely wrong!!!
[08:26] <adamonline45> !grub | minimec
[08:26] <ubotu> minimec: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:27] <cypherdelic> ikonia, yes, absolutely shure, i want to encrypt my hole root
[08:27] <minimec> adamonline45: THX
[08:27] <thor> pbureau: the card is working fine just want to know what driver is used
[08:27] <rohan> hi
[08:27] <rohan> what is the default apache ServerRoot in ubuntu ?
[08:27] <adamonline45> minimec: No problem :)
[08:27] <pbureau> thor,  lshw -class network it will show under driver = for that card
[08:27] <HymnToLife> rohan, /var/www - like everywhere else
[08:27] <cypherdelic> tat: it didn't work that way!
[08:27] <rohan> HymnToLife: thanks
[08:27] <Vilhelms> pbureau: I'm using a Broadcom Wireless Card
[08:28] <Vilhelms> pbureau:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[08:28] <Serg1> !ops
[08:28] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[08:28] <pbureau> Vilhelms, what model bcm xxxx <- ???
[08:28] <minimec> adamonline45: The same procedure as last year Miss Sophie?  *rofl*
[08:28] <mats> sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[08:28] <mats> bcm43xx
[08:28] <Vilhelms> pbureau: BCM4318, I am using it through ndiswrapper
[08:28] <Serg1> how to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[08:28] <pbureau> Vilhelms, see my pvt message
[08:29] <cypherdelic> I need help setting up an encrypted Root-FS for Edgy 6.10, any experts? I got error during startup: "no cryptroot configfured, skipping"
[08:29] <Serg1> is this package exists for ubuntu..
[08:29] <Serg1> ?
[08:29] <infidel> !mmf
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Serg1> !mp4
[08:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <mats> pbureau: download the 'bcm43xx-fwcutter' for multiverse and to a sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[08:29] <Serg1> !mp3
[08:29] <thor> pbureau, thank you !!! that what i was looking for :)
[08:29] <infidel_> is there a mp3 to mmf converter?
[08:29] <pbureau> mats thanks... but I already knew that. :)
[08:30] <Vilhelms> pbureau: I already have the card working properly, it just won't show up in network manager
[08:30] <adamonline45> anyone: I know about <ctrl><alt><F1> taking me to a virtual terminal, but is there a way to get to a pure terminal with Ubuntu-Desktop so I can completely maximize my available resources?
[08:30] <mats> pbureau: aha ;) sorry mac. so much typing here
[08:30] <pbureau> mats no worries
[08:30] <Serg1> is the possible to play mp3 in ubuntu?
[08:30] <Flustrated> sergl: yeah
[08:30] <Vilhelms> Serg1: yes it is
[08:30] <Flustrated> umm
[08:30] <Flustrated> when does feisty come out?
[08:30] <pbureau> Vilhelms,  humm.. Network-manager or Network applet ?
[08:30] <cypherdelic> I need help setting up an encrypted Root-FS for Edgy 6.10, any experts? I got error during startup: "no cryptroot configfured, skipping"
[08:30] <hartsantler> what do i apt-get to play mp3s and xvid movies?
[08:30] <kitche> Flustrated: April or so
[08:31] <Vilhelms> pbureau: Network Manager Applet
[08:31] <kitche> !feisty | Flustrated
[08:31] <ubotu> Flustrated: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:31] <Flustrated> nice
[08:31] <thor> Does anyone try to compile void11 ??
[08:31] <Vilhelms> pbureau: Thats what the about says
[08:31] <mrpoundsign> is there any way to speed up evolution-exchange?  every time I launch it, it seems to be re-indexing my email, which takes a good 5 minutes.
[08:31] <pbureau> Vilhelms, then we need to look at a few files, you using wpasupplicant as well ?
[08:31] <Vilhelms> pbureau: wpasupplicant a program? no all i installed to get it working is ndiswrapper
[08:32] <arphetic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech <- I have a quickcam messenger, and I use Dapper Drake. How can I figure out what package/driver I should install (I heared it was supported in the latest linux kernels...)
[08:32] <mrpoundsign> !webcam | arphetic
[08:32] <ubotu> arphetic: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:32] <pbureau> Vilhelms, come to #ubuntu-wifi well check a few thing
[08:32] <cypherdelic> Did nobody encrypted his Root-FS, cmon please.
[08:32] <jexdawg> how do i change the TEXT color on a panel? (not the background color through right click --> prefs --> background)
[08:32] <antipop> phew im here
[08:32] <arphetic> mrpoundsign: nice one, replying the page on which I based my question ><
[08:32] <Serg1> E: Couldn't find package libxine-extracodecs
[08:32] <antipop> i got a huge problem:
[08:32] <antipop> i destroyed my grub
[08:33] <antipop> no idea how to get it workin again
[08:33] <adamonline45> !grub antipop
[08:33] <mrpoundsign> arphetic: oh, jeez, didn't notice, sorry.  haha
[08:33] <Serg1> ;sdgfmjpksdjfgds
[08:33] <ikonia> antipop: re-install grub
[08:33] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[08:33] <Serg1> g
[08:33] <antipop> i tried
[08:33] <Serg1> fuck this linux
[08:33] <antipop> ill give you some info first:
[08:33] <Serg1> ;)
[08:33] <ikonia> Serg1: watch the lanaguage
[08:34] <isakill> woah
[08:34] <Flustrated> how hard is it to install beryl on edgy?
[08:34] <ikonia> Flustrated: not really
[08:34] <PriceChild> Flustrated, #ubuntu-effects for beryl stuff :)
[08:34] <matthew__> beryl on edgy - doddle
[08:34] <jexdawg> flustrated - i am retarded and i did it my 2nd day on ubuntu
[08:34] <matthew__> use automatix bleeder
[08:34] <matthew__> it just works (well)
[08:34] <matthew__> with nvidia card
[08:34] <antipop> my harddisk is 4 partitions..2-4 is ubuntu, my usual OS. on the primary partition was a kubuntu installed. i deleted the first partition from my ubuntu using gparted
[08:34] <PriceChild> !automatix | matthew__
[08:34] <ubotu> matthew__: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:34] <Pici> !automatic | matthew__
[08:34] <ikonia> never use automatix
[08:34] <Flustrated> nice
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <antipop> after a reboot
[08:34] <arphetic> Flustrated: about 12 inch hard tbh
[08:34] <antipop> nothing happend..
[08:35] <antipop> im here with a live-cd of ubuntu
[08:35] <matthew__> ah - oops
[08:35] <Flustrated> I tried to get compiz to work on umm, the last release, dapper, I guess, didn't work out very well
[08:35] <Flustrated> I eventually gave up on those
[08:35] <cypherdelic> I need help with cryptsetup, does anybody knows, why it cant load my cryptroot? its loaded in /etc/crypttab, listed in /etc/fstab and it is on the kernel-line in /boot/grub/menu.lst. PLEASE
[08:35] <Flustrated> but it seems like people are having a great deal more success with edgy
[08:35] <Frost^> Hello
[08:35] <antipop> !grub
[08:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:35] <jahid> can anyone tell me a better database designing tool for ubuntu?
[08:35] <Serg1> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse"
[08:35] <ikonia> jahid: vi ?
[08:35] <Serg1> what's wrong?
[08:35] <Pici> cypherdelic: Chances are if no one is answering, nobody knows.
[08:35] <cypherdelic> it does NOT work, please help
[08:35] <antipop> i dont have a floppy
[08:36] <ikonia> Serg1: you may not have the  multiverse repo enabled
[08:36] <jahid> ikonia, vi? i knew that is just an editor. isn't it?
[08:36] <Serg1> ikonia: what is this?
[08:36] <ikonia> jahid: yup
[08:36] <ikonia> Serg1: whats what ?
[08:36] <Serg1> ikonia: how to enable it then...
[08:36] <Frost^> I'd like to add some windows shares to my /etc/fstab. When I look at my current fstab, I see a UUID prefix before every block device. Should I set one for the devices I wish to add or can I ignore it?
[08:36] <jahid> but, i need a database designing tool
[08:36] <antipop> is it possible to repair the grub when using the live-cd ?
[08:36] <jexdawg> how do you change the font/text color on panels? right now its black text, but i'd like to make the background of the panel black to fit my theme better and so i need to change the font color to white. is that possible?
[08:36] <jahid> where i can draw database diagram
[08:36] <ikonia> antipop: yup
[08:36] <cypherdelic> Pici: There are many HowTos online, noone of these are 100% correctly, and i cant get it to work
[08:36] <Serg1> ikonia: how to enable it -)
[08:36] <antipop> but it doesnt find devices
[08:37] <kitche> Frost^: you don't need UUID for a share that is for devices only
[08:37] <ikonia> Serg1: search the wiki
[08:37] <Serg1> of thanks
[08:37] <antipop> the primary partition is hd0,0 right ?
[08:37] <Serg1> you don't know?
[08:37] <Serg1> =)
[08:37] <ikonia> antipop: depends on your setup
[08:37] <ikonia> Serg1: I know fine - hence why I have plugins installed
[08:37] <adamonline45> How do I exit gnome entirely and get to a CLI?
[08:37] <antipop> how can i see how i did set it up ?
[08:37] <Serg1> how to enable multiverse repo in ubuntu
[08:37] <UberPsyX> my usb card reader with a CF in it doesnt come up as a storage device so i can open the content but mp3 players, etc do work. any ideas on why?
[08:38] <ikonia> Serg1: search the wiki
[08:38] <Serg1> what wiki, googe?
[08:38] <minimec> antipop: hd0,0 is IDE1 Master
[08:38] <Serg1> ...
[08:38] <ikonia> Serg1: the ubuntu wiki
[08:38] <dm> Is there a XFCE chat?
[08:38] <Serg1> ok
[08:38] <kmaynard> adamonline45, ctrl+alt+f1
[08:38] <kmaynard> adamonline45, ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to desktop
[08:38] <ikonia> minimec: thats not true if there is sata/scsi AND ide in the system at the same time
[08:39] <Flustrated> I read that nvidia's latest driver is giving people problems with "detecting" certain resolutions.  I was thinking this might be the problem I'm having.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
[08:39] <adamonline45> kmaynard: That keeps all my Gnome processes running though; I need the system's full resources at the CLI... :/
[08:39] <minimec> ikonia: You are right ;)
[08:39] <suchetha> good day everyone
[08:39] <ikonia> Flustrated: use the drivers out of the repo
[08:39] <kmaynard> adamonline45, ctrl+alt+f1 then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:39] <Chankster> i keep getting this error "bash: ./sb: cannot execute binary file" any ideas?
[08:39] <Serg1> in the next vers. please include this stuff enable
[08:39] <dm> Is there a XFCE chat?
[08:39] <Serg1> ))
[08:39] <Frost^> kitche: When I add the relevant lines and try to mount, I get an error. This is what dmesg tells me: [17234306.880000]  smbfs: mount_data version 1029990773 is not supported
[08:39] <Flustrated> ikonia: if I installed the drivers using apt-get they won't be the new ones then?
[08:39] <Frost^> any ideas?
[08:39] <adamonline45> kmaynard: That's the best answer yet, thank you :)  How do I restart gnome should the need arise?
[08:39] <archangelpetro> Is anyone familiar with a program that will create a PDF file with given text and not add lots of bloat to it? (i need it to be less than 20kb
[08:39] <antipop> hello! i just wasted my hole system, could anyone give me quick help
[08:40] <Serg1> brb
[08:40] <ikonia> Flustrated: they will be the latest out of the repo's
[08:40] <ikonia> antipop: how did you waste it
[08:40] <antipop> killed grub
[08:40] <UberPsyX> !repeat | dm
[08:40] <ubotu> dm: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:40] <ikonia> dm: search freenode
[08:40] <ikonia> antipop: how ?
[08:40] <antipop> by formating a not used partition
[08:40] <Soulless> antipop: use UR live CD
[08:40] <gnat_x> i am using the packaged version of azureus. it is having issues, and the azureus folks suggested using JRE which i have installed.
[08:40] <antipop> im running a live cd atm
[08:40] <ikonia> antipop: that shouldn't effect grub  - as thats your boot sector
[08:40] <adamonline45> kmaynard: Oh, duh, gdm start? :P
[08:40] <archangelpetro> god damn, does anyone here ever reply?
[08:41] <antipop> i used gparted
[08:41] <ikonia> archangelpetro: that your attitude - no
[08:41] <suchetha> gnat_x azureus has had issues with the debian/ubuntu jre package..
[08:41] <antipop> deleted the first partition there
[08:41] <ax> if i have a intel core2 duo do i want to use an -smp kernel, or is generic fine?
[08:41] <Serg1> sorry but i don't know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:41] <ax> i don't see a new -smp kernel actually
[08:41] <antipop> since a kubuntu was installed there that i never did use
[08:41] <archangelpetro> ikonia, my attitude is so because of 'your' attitude.
[08:41] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol|nope :P annoying isnt it?
[08:41] <chezz99> Hello!
[08:41] <ikonia> Serg1: search the wiki
[08:41] <Pici> Serg1: Those codecs are not installed because by doing so they would violate the license that Ubuntu is published under.  It is the user's discretion to install those repositores if needed
[08:41] <gnat_x> suchetha: any fix aside from building it myself?
[08:41] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, it's frustrating.
[08:41] <ikonia> archangelpetro: your just being impatient
[08:41] <Flustrated> oh, one more question, how do you get to a console outside of X?
[08:41] <ikonia> !patience >archangelpetro
[08:41] <jughead> i have a directory with many subdirectories and files; how can I change all of the directories and files to allow anyone to have full access (read/write, delete,e tc) to all of the directories and files?
[08:41] <gnat_x> suchetha: ideally i like to keep using package managers.
[08:41] <archangelpetro> ikonia, is my patience supposed to extend to infiinity?
[08:41] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol|are you any good with ubuntu
[08:42] <suchetha> gnat_x, not that i know of, tried it repeatedly finally said frell it and moved to ktorrent
[08:42] <ikonia> archangelpetro: how long have you been waiting
[08:42] <antipop> damn this is so annoying
[08:42] <infinitee> jughead: chmod -R parent_directory
[08:42] <jexdawg> not trying to spam but can you guys just tell me if its possible to change the text color on your panels? i'll look the fix up myself
[08:42] <suchetha> gnat_x: hopefully feisty will have the new FOSS version of jre
[08:42] <archangelpetro> ikonia, i've been waiting for other questions to be answered.. since i asked them.. anywhere from days to weeks ago.
[08:42] <Raskall> my monitor isn't autodetected. How do I tell X that the monitor handles 1280x1024 and not only 1024x768
[08:42] <Soulless> antipop: if U use the live CD I think U can reinstall GRUB
[08:42] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, i'll help with what i can :)
[08:42] <Raskall> ?
[08:42] <gnat_x> suchetha: ok. that makes sense.
[08:42] <jughead> which numbers would I use for chmod infinitee
[08:42] <Techno|ust> hello fellow ubuntu people.  If I want to execute a unix command at startup to I need to make a sh script to allow this or is there another way?
[08:42] <antipop> yes but HOW ?
[08:42] <ikonia> archangelpetro: whats your question
[08:42] <ikonia> antipop: search the forums/wiki
[08:42] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol| thanks, my usb card reader with a CF in it doesnt come up as a storage device so i can open the content but mp3 players, etc do work. any ideas on why?
[08:42] <Yeseax_> Flustrated, do you mean a real original console? press strg+alt+F1.. F1-F6 are normal the consoles .. F7 is the X-Server.. a ,,console'' on X is called Terminal
[08:42] <antipop> i dont understand all these english howtows
[08:42] <ikonia> then ask speciic questions here
[08:42] <noodles12> i went to system>administration>printing and the "new printer" button is not highlighted and i cannot select it.
[08:43] <Soulless> antipop: I think it's an option marker 'REPAIR' or somethin' like that
[08:43] <Flustrated> Raskall: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure?
[08:43] <infinitee> jughead: what permissions are you aiming at? generally 755 for ordinary user
[08:43] <isakill> wha.....  this copy of x-chat doesn't do multiple networks?
[08:43] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol | and in the device manager it comes up as a mass media device
[08:43] <antipop> hda: empty hda1 ubuntu hda2 ubuntu hda3 swap hda4 ubuntu
[08:43] <Serg1> heh
[08:43] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, i suppose it's down to the auto mounting of those kidns of devices.. have you tried manually mounting it?
[08:43] <antipop> i need a grub again
[08:43] <ikonia> antipop: we know
[08:43] <icatalina> hello, i've update to feisty and i've lost the units icons on the computer menu.... (the windows partition). It still mounting it, but it dont appear on the computer menu... do you know how to repair it?
[08:43] <Techno|ust> do you have to make a .sh script if you want to execut unix commands at startup????
[08:44] <archangelpetro> ikonia, my problem is.. that i need to write a txt file to pdf format without the extra bloat.. I need to keep a 1page document under 20kb (openoffice bulks up the pdf to 200k)
[08:44] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol | as if,  im a complete noob! lol how do i do that?
[08:44] <Soulless> Technolust: I reckon so
[08:44] <jughead> I would like full read/write/execute for all users/groups
[08:44] <infinitee> Techmolust: use "sessions" option to include apps at startup
[08:44] <ikonia> archangelpetro: not aware of an app that can do it that smal
[08:44] <ikonia> small
[08:44] <adamonline45> hpijs
[08:44] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol | sudo /mount usb?
[08:44] <Raskall> Flustrated: on xserver-xorg? Yes, I did, but I was unable to log in afterwards. GDM had the right resolution, but X just died when I tried to log in
[08:44] <Techno|ust> sessions work with xcfe?
[08:44] <adamonline45> !hpijs
[08:44] <ubotu> hpijs: HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS driver (hpijs). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.9+1.6.9-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 337 kB, installed size 712 kB
[08:44] <Techno|ust> *xfce
[08:44] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, sudo mount something along those lines yea :P
[08:44] <suchetha> archangelpetro: i don't think there is a way to do that. a pdf file is large BECAUSE it is an image file.. kind of like a jpeg or summat
[08:45] <infinitee> Techolust: it is in gnome, not sure how to go abt in xfce
[08:45] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, i have trouble with my own portable storage devices
[08:45] <archangelpetro> suchetha, aye, but there must be a way of dropping its size to something reasonable for text
[08:45] <infidel> is there a mp3 to mmf convertoer for linux?
[08:45] <antipop> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[08:45] <antipop> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[08:45] <antipop> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[08:45] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol | lol, windows 98 is looking reeeaaallyy appetising at the minute :P
[08:45] <Flustrated> raskall: check out the error log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or whatever it is
[08:45] <posingaspopular> icatalina: you mean the grub?
[08:46] <icatalina> no, when you are in ubuntu/places/computer
[08:46] <suchetha> archangelpetro: not that i know of, iirc pdf embeds fonts as curves etc etc etc.. that is why it works on any system with any font without the need for the font to be there on teh target machine
[08:46] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, dont go that way :P honestly i'm probably not the best person to ask :P sorry :)  lookup on ubuntu forums 'manually mounting external drives' etc.
[08:46] <icatalina> you have some partitions icons... and i lost it...
[08:46] <Flustrated> raskall: I know for most monitors it'll try at the top of the list, and see what your hardware will support, so if it's not running at the highest possible res it must've bumped into an error
[08:46] <archangelpetro> suchetha, well, odd that they ask for a page under 20k in pdf format :/
[08:46] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol | lol thanks for the help. what do you need help with?
[08:46] <infinitee> hey anybody have this wierd prob: laptop peaks performance and fan blasts full when the laptop is left idle for 5 mins or so.. is there some way to fix it?
[08:47] <ikonia> infinitee: update the bios to a better one
[08:47] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, im trying to send off my PhD proposal :P
[08:47] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol | i might be able to help :P (helped by a noob
[08:47] <suchetha> i have a problem: i use a sb audigy ca0106, i upgraded to the latest version of eft and now i don't have any sound.. ideas?
[08:47] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol | lol cool
[08:47] <infinitee> ikonia: oh, thanks.. I shall do that (I never updated!)
[08:47] <Raskall> Flustrated: I tried to add 1280x1024 as a valid resolution in xorg.conf. I am trying to restart X now
[08:47] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, i wouldnt worry about it, I'm pretty crap at most things too :P
[08:47] <archangelpetro> i imagine you have your strengths elsewhere :P
[08:48] <Flustrated> raskall: k, if it kicks out read the error log afterwards
[08:48] <UberPsyX> archangelpetrol, lol, ok thanks for everything. good luck finding some help :P cya
[08:48] <Raskall> Flustrated: it worked. :)
[08:48] <archangelpetro> UberPsyX, sorry i couldnt be more helpful :P
[08:48] <Raskall> Flustrated: ahh.. nice to have room on the desktop again.
[08:49] <Flustrated> sweet
[08:49] <suchetha> archangelpetro: hmm there are 6 page documents in pdf nder 20kb
[08:49] <suchetha> archangelpetro: so that should be possible.. maybe if you got rid of colours and/or images?
[08:49] <archangelpetro> suchetha, hehe aye, i just want one page.. the actual file is text
[08:49] <archangelpetro> there are no images or anything
[08:49] <Pici> archangelpetro: You may be able to use html2ps then ps2pdf to convert it to pdf
[08:50] <archangelpetro> just OO adds lots of bulk
[08:50] <archangelpetro> thanks Pici :)
[08:50] <suchetha> archangelpetro: hmm try a print to file
[08:50] <Soulless> archangelpetro: Maybe use Abiword
[08:50] <suchetha> that should give you a ps file
[08:50] <Pici> archangelpetro: I believe htm2ps is in one of the repositories, the ps2pdf is in one of the LaTeX packages, I'm not sure which one
[08:51] <archangelpetro> and, I do appreciate all the help :).. thank you very much :)
[08:51] <VincentMX> hi
[08:51] <archangelpetro> ill try  Abiword and htm2ps/ps2pdf
[08:51] <Soulless> archangelpetro: cuz Abiword can export directly to PDF
[08:51] <kmaynard> adamonline45, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  or start if it's already dead
[08:52] <suchetha> problem: no sound on a sb audigy after an upgrade, can anyone please help?
[08:52] <VincentMX> i've installed edubuntu-desktop, but gnome, firefox, and such, and the educational programs, are in english, while i installed it in dutch
[08:53] <infinitee> sucheta: maybe if you could point what package was installed during the update, someone might be able to help you
[08:53] <suchetha> VincentMX: you may have to install the language packs
[08:53] <rfschmid> Can anyone help me find out what's going wrong with my ATI graphics card for which I just installed the proprietary ATI driver?
[08:53] <Wulfe> can someone help me on amarok ... no sound on streaming audio
[08:53] <VincentMX> i installed a base system, since i had no edubuntu cd, then i upgraded, then installed edubuntu-desktop, then some was in english
[08:53] <VincentMX> suchetha: how?
[08:53] <suchetha> infinitee: i think the primary one was that the kernel got upgraped
[08:53] <suchetha> VincentMX: checking now.. one minute please
[08:54] <nofxx> my screen looks way offset to the right.... nvidia... using nv graphics on a thin client..... how to change that?
[08:54] <sidny4> if I make changes to /etc/network/interfaces, do I have to restart the computer to make those changes come into effect
[08:54] <infinitee> VincentMX: did you go to amarok preferences and use the appropriate device?
[08:54] <Serg1> i can't un-comment file , have no permission..
[08:54] <EissblocK> Hi ubuntu users
[08:54] <Ferret> sidny4: you should just have to do sudo /etc/init.d/net restart
[08:54] <Wulfe> in configure amarok ?
[08:54] <sidny4> alright
[08:54] <EissblocK> i have searched all the google ;) and i have a little issue
[08:55] <EissblocK> i am a beginning ubuntu user
[08:55] <infinitee> !ask>Eissblock
[08:55] <EissblocK> i just installed my nvidia drivers
[08:55] <sidny4> EissblocK: ask your question
[08:55] <suchetha> VincentMX: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/translations/language-pack-gnome-nl
[08:55] <Serg1> i have opened source.list and un-commented that i need and cannot save the chnages
[08:55] <isakill> I just rebooted after doing some updating....  I can't play mp3s :/
[08:55] <Serg1> -(
[08:55] <suchetha> VincentMX: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/translations/language-pack-gnome-nl-base
[08:55] <ikonia> Serg1: search the wiki
[08:55] <Serg1> have opened with "text editor"
[08:56] <infinitee> Sergl: use "sudo" before the editor command
[08:56] <rfschmid> I just installed the ATI driver, but fglrxinfo still says I'm using "Mesa GLX Indirect" rendering.
[08:56] <EissblocK> i am trying with this game called nexuiz... so i installed it, and it works for like 2 minutes and then everything returns to desktop again :s
[08:56] <suchetha> VincentMX: download install and enjoy
[08:56] <EissblocK> very sucky
[08:56] <patrick_> hey
[08:56] <coldboot> Whenever I view a LaTeX converted to PostScript file in Evince or GhostView, the text looks like it has pixelitus. Even the text that's part of GhostView's interface looks like pixelitus. Does anyone know where I can start to fix this problem? It's hard to search...
[08:56] <Wulfe> how do i get sound on streaming audio in amarok ?
[08:56] <patrick_> i was wondering if someone could send me 2 files, i messed them up when trying  to do network printing.
[08:56] <patrick_> they are
[08:56] <patrick_> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[08:56] <jexdawg> How do i get a media-player control applet on my panel? preferably for rhythmbox?   heck, where do i get any applets?
[08:57] <supmork> hi. experiencing some problem with wifi connection. eg: PC1 has eth1 192.168.0.3 connected to adsl router 192.168.0.2 has a wifi card (ndismapper) 192.168.10.10; PC2 (windozxp) has wifi. Wifi software tells they're connected. but in fact it seems that no packets arrive to and goes from PC1 *excep* for ARP request (Who has 192.168.10.10? Tell 192.168.10.21) and browser master announcement
[08:57] <patrick_> and /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf
[08:57] <ikonia> patrick_: just re-install cups
[08:57] <danny> hi, I have an urgent network problem [distri == ubuntu]  - any suggestions for a good channel about such problems?
[08:57] <supmork> any suggestion?
[08:57] <patrick_> how do i do that ikonia
[08:57] <ikonia> danny: just ask
[08:57] <patrick_> sorry i'm not that well versed
[08:57] <EissblocK> i understand if u don't answer my question :)
[08:57] <ikonia> patrick_: remove cups - then re-install it
[08:57] <patrick_> ok thanks ikonia
[08:58] <pbureau> danny, #ubuntu-wifi
[08:58] <danny> got a 3com 3c905c nic which connects only with 10Mbit [working fine when I boot windows]  and does not react on commands I give with ethtool
[08:58] <livingdaylight> can soemone tell me what the command is for identifyying one's aversion of ubuntu?
[08:58] <infinitee> Eissblock: yours is a very specific question, I doubt others would have encountered that, hence your q wasnt answered
[08:58] <jexdawg> out of beep-media-player, rhythmbox, banshee, and exaile, which do you guys prefer?
[08:58] <ikonia> danny: try mii-tool
[08:59] <EissblocK> i m not mad about it or anything
[08:59] <danny> isn't mii-tool older than ethtool?
[08:59] <ikonia> yup
[08:59] <Wulfe> Amarok - no streaming audio .. but sound work in ubuntu ... suggestions ?
[08:59] <EissblocK> i just love the linux styles and i kinda hate this
[08:59] <infinitee> livingdaylight: system->about ubuntu
[08:59] <MystaMax> hello, i installed xfce on a server, but dont want it to run all the time, only when I need it, how do I go about that?
[08:59] <ikonia> EissblocK: please be-quiet
[08:59] <Flustrated> infinitee: I like rhythmbox...xmms is good too tho
[08:59] <livingdaylight> infinitee, do older versions of ubuntu have this?
[08:59] <infinitee> Wulfe: try exploring preferences of amarok
[09:00] <livingdaylight> is there not a command line way of finding out?
[09:00] <infinitee> livingdaylight: check your sources.list
[09:00] <Flustrated> I was impressed by how quickly rhythmbox got through my collection, which is rather large
[09:00] <danny> ok, i will try and come back if I can't solve the Problem... by the way if it work, how to make the change permanent for further boots?
[09:01] <ikonia> danny: an init script ?
[09:01] <patrick_>  ikonia how do i uninstall it cups?
[09:01] <livingdaylight> infinitee, huh? just to identify ubuntu version?
[09:01] <shrndegruv> in awn, does anyone else notice that right clicking and selecting preferences doesnt work?
[09:01] <ikonia> patrick_: open synamptic - find cups - click remove
[09:01] <danny> ok which one? and how... havent done this so often...
[09:01] <infinitee> patrick_ sudo apt-get remove cups
[09:01] <Blaise> hi everyone
[09:01] <Wulfe> nothing i have done amarok has gotten me to get sound out of this
[09:01] <Blaise> I'm getting Segmentation Faults when I try and load Firefox, (this also happens from the liveCD), does anyone know how I can get Firefox up and running?
[09:01] <ikonia> danny: add it to the network one, or make your own
[09:02] <danny> ok
[09:02] <Vilhelms> I'm having a problem with World of Warcraft. I installed it on wine but after running it for about a minute the game hangs and so does my whole PC. Then I am forced to a hard shutdown. What could be the problem?
[09:02] <patrick_> then just sudo apt-get install cups after?
[09:02] <danny> thanks and good night
[09:02] <ikonia> Vilhelms: you'll get better support in #wine-hq
[09:02] <bart> Vilhemls which wine version do you use ?
[09:02] <infinitee> livingdaylight: if you cant/dont find about ubuntu under system, using CLI that is the way I thought is possible.. it should be listed what version (dapper or feisty) it gets packages from
[09:02] <Wulfe>  is there maybe something i have to download as far as a plugin or streaming audio plug in ?
[09:03] <Pooky> what's a recommended gnome media player?
[09:03] <Chousuke> mplayer
[09:03] <ikonia> totem
[09:03] <livingdaylight> infinitee, ok, sure
[09:03] <Chousuke> totem
[09:03] <livingdaylight> thx
[09:03] <infinitee> !multimedia>Wulfe
[09:03] <bart> totem-xine
[09:03] <Pooky> music player, sorry
[09:03] <Pooky> like, exaile, or listen
[09:03] <Vilhelms> ikonia, Thanks :)
[09:03] <Pooky> but not those :P
[09:03] <kitche> !players | Pooky
[09:03] <ubotu> Pooky: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:03] <Vilhelms> ikonia, There's no one in that channel :(
[09:03] <Pooky> kitche, thanks
[09:03] <Wulfe>  do wha ?
[09:04] <ikonia> Vilhelms: try #wine
[09:04] <jexdawg> whadya guys think of exaile?
[09:04] <jexdawg> is it a resource-hog?
[09:04] <Vilhelms> ikonia, Alright that works, thanks :)
[09:04] <Pooky> I really liked it
[09:04] <cmt^^> #winehq
[09:04] <Pooky> but it kept locking up in beryl
[09:05] <jexdawg> pooky, you're referring to exaile?
[09:05] <Pooky> yes
[09:05] <shawn> quick question, how do i get out of X and just have a terminal to install some video drivers
[09:05] <mitcheloc> hey guys, i'm following an older how to guide on mounting a drive using the ubuntu live cd, it mentions getting in the "disks" manager window, i can't find that menu option anymore??
[09:05] <ana_gergal> ola
[09:05] <Serg1> (gedit:11808): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:05] <Serg1> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:05] <jexdawg> damn. i'm using beryl and i'd rather have it than exaile.. i'll probably give it a shot though
[09:05] <bart> shawn : ctrl-alt f1
[09:05] <Serg1> what is this..
[09:05] <shawn> thanks bart!
[09:05] <mitcheloc> where did system -> administration -> disks go?
[09:05] <Pooky> I would have liked Listen, if it would let me change the library location
[09:05] <ahmaru3> do you have any idea about a driver for an hercules 3d prophet 4500 with chipset kiroII?????
[09:05] <Serg1> is something wrong in this?
[09:06] <bart> shawn : but you probably also need to stop gdm : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:06] <shawn> okay wait follop up question, how do i get back in gui mode
[09:06] <Hopposai> ok. lack of sound is not a kernel problem
[09:06] <bart> alt F7
[09:06] <shawn> awesome i love you thanks
[09:06] <lolman> If gdm is not running alt-f7 won't get you a gui back :P
[09:06] <Serg1> bye all
[09:06] <rmd_> if i install xubuntu-desktop and decide that i like it, can i apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop and experience no problems?
[09:07] <Wulfe>  anybody have any ideas about amarok ?
[09:07] <Hopposai> rmd_: nor really.. ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package, removing it will not remove the gnome desktop
[09:07] <posingaspopular> Wulfe: what exactly have you tried?
[09:07] <infinitee> rmd_ removing "ubuntu-desktop" wont take away the apps with it.. it would still work
[09:07] <ahmaru3> do you have any idea about a driver for an hercules 3d prophet 4500 with chipset kiroII?????
[09:07] <mitcheloc> anyone?
[09:08] <Hopposai> rmd_: i should know, i tried.. and i now have xfce desktop manager crashing
[09:08] <Pooky> There's a script in the ubuntu forum for removing ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu
[09:08] <rmd_> infinitee: so i would have to go through and manually remove all the gnome apps?
[09:08] <Pooky> but, it's kind o scary
[09:08] <White_Lightning> !ftp
[09:08] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[09:08] <White_Lightning> !bcm43xx
[09:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:08] <SpudDogg> HELP!!! I accidentally move a file to big for the trash into the trash!!!!  How can I get it back?!?!?!?!
[09:08] <pbureau> White_Lightning, what bcm card you have ?
[09:09] <Wulfe>  i have done the default install and never get any sound .. but in other OS's ex: freespire ... the default works
[09:09] <Hopposai> SpudDogg:  if you're REALLY lucky you may be able to roll back the jurnal
[09:09] <infinitee> rmd_ not sure, but it seems so
[09:10] <SpudDogg> Hopposai, how do i do that?!
[09:10] <Fraj> hi
[09:10] <Wulfe>  there supposeally is a way to get it running with package install .. but im not sure what i need to get sound out of a sterming file\
[09:10] <pbureau> SpudDogg,  look for ~/.trash it may still be in there
[09:10] <Fraj> iv installed gpart (Partition program) but how do i run it? I cant find it in applications!
[09:10] <ahmaru3> do you have any idea about a driver for an hercules 3d prophet 4500 with chipset kiroII?????
[09:10] <RyanT5000> i know my printer is on /proc/bus/usb/002/003, but it's not being detected by gnome-cups-add; how can I set it up manually?
[09:11] <RyanT5000> (or make it get detected)
[09:11] <Hopposai> SpudDogg: if its not on the partition you are using now, unmount partition asap
[09:11] <infinitee> Fraj: "sudo gparted" in terminal
[09:11] <naotemp_home> pouet
[09:11] <SpudDogg> Hopposai, no, its not.  any other ideas?
[09:11] <grimboy> infidel, I think you mean gksudo, sudoing gui applications can do bad things.
[09:11] <grimboy> infinitee,
[09:11] <posingaspopular> mitcheloc: what was the question
[09:12] <pbureau> RyanT5000, open a browser and http://localhost:631 and use the interface to install your printer that way
[09:12] <pbureau> ahmaru3, check http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+hercules+3d+prophet+4500&btnG=Search
[09:12] <Fraj> ok gotted
[09:12] <adaptr> anyone know how I can list my mainboard/BIOS info without booting ?
[09:12] <Fraj> but it wont let me delete the main drive its got a lock on it
[09:12] <Fraj> wont let me do anything to it
[09:13] <gpd> shot in the dark: can I switch from 64Bit Ubuntu to 32Bit without reinstalling?
[09:13] <infinitee> grimboy: yes, you are right..
[09:13] <adaptr> Fraj: you should use gksu or gksudo when you run that from X
[09:13] <Fraj> yeh its running
[09:13] <RyanT5000> pbureau: it just gets to "device" and doesn't show anything reasonable either
[09:13] <adaptr> gpd: tricky, but should be possible
[09:13] <RyanT5000> LPT/Parallel, internet, bluetooth, jetdirect, etc.
[09:14] <pbureau> RyanT5000, and you click on administration, remove what ever is there and click on add printer it shoudl l ist it IF it is connected directly to the PC
[09:14] <Hopposai> SpudDogg: http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm good luck
[09:14] <adaptr> gpd: you'd have to "switch" your distro, and at least swicth all repos to 32-bit sources, then get the whole base 32-bit ubuntu install, probably onto a new partition, then get a 32-bit kernel, then juggle files around, then reboot and cross fingers...
[09:14] <Fraj> adaptr how can i dlete the main partition?
[09:14] <Fraj> as i wantt o get rid of ubuntu
[09:14] <adaptr> Fraj: how *can* you delete the partition you're running from ?
[09:14] <Fraj> yeh
[09:14] <gpd> adaptr: yes - that is what i thought -- probably not worth the effort
[09:14] <Jowi_n1> ahmaru3, best thing is to check here http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[09:14] <Savage-{> hey is that new Open Client Solution from IBM supposed to be available yet?
[09:14] <adaptr> gpd: :)
[09:15] <Fraj> as when i put another OS cd in it i twont let me boot from it iv checked the bios etc, says press any key etc but then wton boot
[09:15] <gpd> adaptr: can you remember the apt-get command to clone a dump of packages onto a new machine?
[09:15] <adaptr> does anybody know a way to list my mainboard make/BIOS version without booting ?
[09:15] <Hopposai> this is annoying, my sound card refuses to work.. its being detected, it seems to be working, but no sound is coming out. checked with speakers and headphones.. as near as i can figure it out alsa is setting the volume to 0 and not letting me change it upwards.
[09:15] <adaptr> gpd: never heard of it
[09:15] <infinitee> gpd: "apt on cd"?
[09:15] <kristallpirat> When I run ./configure for gnupg 1.4.6 I get the error: C compiler canot create executables <= any hints how to change that?
[09:15] <adaptr> gpd: but you probably want dpkg, not apt
[09:15] <lolman> Hopposai: tried using alsamixer?
[09:16] <adaptr> kristallpirat: did you install build-essential ?
[09:16] <gpd> infinitee: apt on cd?
[09:16] <Jac1> Hey everyone, i need help with installing Ubuntu on an older PC
[09:16] <kristallpirat> adaptr I will check that
[09:16] <adaptr> kristallpirat: if you don;t know, then you don't have it
[09:16] <infinitee> not sure if I got you right, !aptoncd>gpd
[09:17] <Hopposai> lolman: tried them all.. everytime i raise the volume it drops it ight back down to zero
[09:17] <RyanT5000> pbureau: doesn't work
[09:17] <gpd> !aptoncd > gpd
[09:17] <RyanT5000> is there some way I can force a USB hotplug update or something?
[09:17] <frwagon> I've swapped off the GNOME screensaver system to xscreensaver, and now the screen fades when i'm playing full-screen games... any way to stop that?
[09:17] <Jac1> It is an old PC (used to run 98) and Now i want to install ubuntu on it. But it just won't boot from the CD Drive, it tries to boot windows, eventhough it is no longer on the system
[09:17] <lolman> Hopposai: is it changed on reboot or as soon as you leave alsamixer?
[09:17] <VincentMX> infinitee: i installed the kernel source, but when i compile alsa, it says it cant find /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h
[09:17] <pbureau> RyanT5000, what kind of printer is it ? (dont answer cannon please)
[09:18] <VincentMX> Oops
[09:18] <mrpoundsign> does anyone here use evolution with exchange?
[09:18] <RyanT5000> pbureau: samsung
[09:18] <RyanT5000> it was recognized before
[09:18] <rmd_> ok, so i did a sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu is still loading the ubuntu desktop with gnome apps... do i need do change something?
[09:18] <kristallpirat> adaptr installing ...
[09:18] <RyanT5000> the first time i tried to add it, it worked
[09:18] <pbureau> Jac1, boot iun bios set bios to start with cdrom first
[09:18] <VincentMX> i installed the kernel source, but when i compile alsa, it says it cant find /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h
[09:18] <infinitee> VincentMX: sorry, I never was brave enough to play with kernels :)
[09:18] <RyanT5000> but it hasn't worked since rebooting
[09:18] <VincentMX> ok
[09:18] <pbureau> RyanT5000, what model (some are windows only printers)
[09:18] <Jac1> pbureau: I have but it won't work
[09:18] <RyanT5000> well it's worked before
[09:19] <RyanT5000> ML-2250
[09:19] <pbureau> RyanT5000, try setting it up as an HP 4 printer
[09:19] <RyanT5000> oh what port?
[09:19] <pbureau> usually 9100
[09:19] <RyanT5000> huh?
[09:19] <kristallpirat> adaptr thx that helped
[09:19] <RyanT5000> it's USB
[09:20] <feryana> this is not a linux question, but, do you any one know how to send money from my paypal to my checking account in my bank???
[09:20] <Hopposai> lolman: its changed WHILE i'm using it
[09:20] <frwagon> I've disabled the Gnome screensaver manager, and am using xscreensaver, but some of the settings from Gnome are still overriding... how can i reopen the Gnome SS control panel?
[09:20] <lolman> Ah
[09:20] <Hopposai> i use the arrow keys to push it up and it pushes them back down..
[09:20] <rmd_> you are amazing
[09:20] <infinitee> feryena: what is your login/pw? ;)
[09:20] <rmd_> akk
[09:20] <rmd_> hah
[09:21] <Hopposai> i may have done something incredibly stupid, but this may fix it.. i just removed alsa
[09:21] <pbureau> feryana, login, and click on withdraw
[09:21] <Jowi_n1> frwagon,  "gnome-screensaver-preferences"
[09:21] <feryana> infinitee my login is 123fbndfg@yahoo.com and my pass is dhhhffffbedjffjfdshsbgdfhffjfghdd
[09:21] <feryana> infinitee I hope it helps :P
[09:21] <Hopposai> time to run away now
[09:21] <RyanT5000> i have AppSocket/JetDirect, Backend Error Handler, Bluetooth printer, hp no_device_found, http, ipp, LPD/LPR Host or Printer, LPT #1, Parallel Port #1 (EPSON), Parallel Port #1 (CANON), SAMBA
[09:21] <feryana> thanks plbureau
[09:21] <RyanT5000> those are the choices, and none seem right
[09:22] <Hopposai> boil me a kipper, i'll be back for breakfast
[09:22] <frwagon> Jowi - Great! Thank you!
[09:22] <pbureau> RyanT5000, humm....
[09:22] <bakert> Anyone just got the "Technical Board Decisions" email?
[09:22] <pbureau> nope
[09:22] <drake> hey
[09:22] <drake> how do i get to irc://irc.freenode.net/
[09:22] <drake> ?
[09:23] <Seveas> drake, you're there right now :)
[09:23] <nekr0z> Hello all! Is there a way to see how large is a directory with all of it's contents in mc?
[09:23] <darkmatter> drake, what Seveas said ;)
[09:23] <Pelo> nekr0z,  mc ?
[09:23] <warkruid> nekr0z: cmdline "du -ks"
[09:24] <drake> oh word?
[09:24] <drake> alright
[09:24] <warkruid> nekroz: sry "du -cks"
[09:24] <nekr0z> Pelo: Midnight Commander
[09:24] <Hopposai> pelo midnight commander..one
[09:24] <Pelo> ah
[09:24] <posingaspopular> drake: i got you
[09:24] <posingaspopular> you're in knoversation right?
[09:24] <VincentMX> im missing version.h in linux/include/linux
[09:24] <nekr0z> warkruid: yeah I know, but I hoped there was some way inside mc, like they have in Gnome Commander...
[09:25] <warkruid> nekr0z: sry not that i know off. But then I am a commandline junky ;-)
[09:25] <Jac1> I'm trying to boot Ubunto onto an old PC (used to run 98) , but it just won't boot from the CD Drive, it tries to boot windows, even though it is no longer on the system (the Boot sequence is set to CDROM drive first)
[09:25] <Ferret> VincentMX: That only appears once you've compiled the kernel sources
[09:25] <KennethP> nekr0z: F9 + choose info in left or right
[09:26] <Ferret> VincentMX: Although if you don't need to compile a kernel, just build modules against it, you can configure the kernel and run 'make prepare' to get version.h and friends
[09:26] <Hopposai> Jac1: your cdrom drive may not be detecting the ubuntu cd
[09:26] <nekr0z> warkruid: I like command line, but sometimes I have to do some file organizing, and nothing is better than a good old 2-pane manager there.
[09:26] <Hopposai> Jac1: advise you plug in a new cdrom drive
[09:26] <Jac1> Hopposai: It does because when i DID have windows installed i could run the CD from there and install firefox etc.
[09:26] <warkruid> nekr0z: your right of course..
[09:26] <infinitee> Jacl: you have enabled boot from cd as first option in set up, right?
[09:27] <KennethP> nekr0z: Press F9 + choose Info in left or right menu option
[09:27] <nekr0z> KennethP: F9 - isn't that for just menu?
[09:27] <Jac1> infinitee: yes i have
[09:27] <warkruid> nekr0z: the f9 suggestion rings a bell
[09:27] <KennethP> nekr0z: yeah, and try as I told you
[09:27] <infinitee> Jacl: check the contents of the cd from windows.. something might have gone wrong in the burning process
[09:28] <Vilhelms> How can I add custom applications to the Applications -> Internet menu?
[09:28] <Jac1> infinitee: it works on my other computer
[09:28] <nekr0z> KennethP: Looks the same as C-x+i, but it doesn't give the total amount. It only shows what's occupied by directory itself (usually 4 kb)
[09:28] <infinitee> VilhemsL alacarte
[09:29] <Hopposai> nekr0z: it IS C-x+i
[09:29] <Vilhelms> infinitee, Thanks :)
[09:29] <infinitee> !alacarte>Vilhelms
[09:29] <Hopposai> Jac1: hmm as a test, try unplugging the hdd and just boot cdrom livecd style
[09:29] <nekr0z> Hopposai: well it shows the free space good, but i need the occupied space.
[09:29] <maimster> Hi everyone.
[09:30] <jexdawg> is there anyway to control rhythmbox from an applet installed on a panel? its annoying to find it using beryl +3d cubes
[09:30] <posingaspopular> maimster: hi. it's snowing. im upset.
[09:30] <Hopposai> nekr0z: hmm that is a not sure
[09:30] <Jac1> Hopposai: kk, will do
[09:31] <Ferret> nekr0z: In order to display the real usage of a directory all the files and directories within in have to be added up. o.o
[09:31] <maimster> postingaspopular: Yeah. I agree. Hopefully it doesn't stick.
[09:31] <Ferret> nekr0z: You either need to slect the directory in your file manager and run some command or menu-item, or use some other program. ;P
[09:31] <Ferret> tree, xtree, du
[09:31] <posingaspopular> midwest winters are the worst
[09:32] <pestilence> posingaspopular: hope it doesn't stick in chicago?  good luck with that :)
[09:32] <Hopposai> posingaspopular: there are winters in teh midwest now?
[09:32] <maimster> posingaspopular: Spell your nick wrong....
[09:32] <nekr0z> Ferret: du is no problem, and I use it, but I hoped for some builtin feature...
[09:32] <posingaspopular> what's that about my nick?
[09:32] <shrndegruv> how come every gtk theme i download and install from gnomelook errors out when i try to import?
[09:32] <Hopposai> posingaspopular: i remember it used to be two seasons, hot and sticky, and tornadoes
[09:32] <posingaspopular> pestilence: how do you know im from chicago?
[09:33] <Ferret> nekr0z: Check the documentation for your file manager. ;)  If it doesn't have that feature, maybe it just sucks? ;P
[09:33] <pestilence> posingaspopular: /who posingaspopular
[09:33] <posingaspopular> Hopposai: yea global warming is awesome no?
[09:33] <posingaspopular> ahhhh
[09:33] <maimster> pestilence: heheh.. good one.
[09:33] <elias_> Does anyone know if i can get xfc4 via apt-get ?
[09:33] <posingaspopular> even i dont do that on myself
[09:33] <Ferret> nekr0z: Oh, it's mc.  That doesn't suck.
[09:33] <maimster> posingaspopular: I did, to reset the dam real_name tag.
[09:33] <posingaspopular> elias_: just try it
[09:33] <Hopposai> elias_: yes sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <pestilence> posingaspopular: i'm 2 hours south, we probably have 8 inches by now
[09:33] <nekr0z> Ferret: MC, being otherwise a most decent and mature linux manager I know, just plain sucks on this? I don't beleive it! ;-)
[09:33] <posingaspopular> where is 2 hours south?
[09:34] <pestilence> champaign
[09:34] <posingaspopular> ahhh does champaing have a linux LUG?
[09:34] <Wulfe> i am near dayton ohio ... bout what we have
[09:34] <maimster> pestilence: As in Champaign IL?  Is that anywhere near Chanute?
[09:34] <pestilence> posingaspopular: i'm sure they do, i've never attended.  there's probably a SIG linux with the ACM at the u of i
[09:34] <Hopposai> ok see you guys when i get this thing working
[09:34] <Hopposai> ttfn
[09:34] <Vilhelms> If I right click on an icon on my desktop and go to properties, how do I find out the location of the icon so I can use it in alacarte?
[09:34] <pestilence> maimster: 15 miles south of rantoul, home of chanute afb
[09:35] <maimster> pestilence: Yeah I went to school there.
[09:35] <pestilence> (former chanute, i should say)
[09:35] <maimster> pestilence: Oh?  They shut her down?
[09:35] <posingaspopular> actually yea there is,this guy in the chicago ubuntu loco went to a lug meeting somewhere round champgain. or i shold say he came from champaign talking about a linux meeting
[09:35] <infinitee> elias: apt-cache search xfce
[09:35] <pestilence> maimster: mid nineties :)
[09:35] <maimster> pestilence: Jesus...  where does the time go.
[09:36] <posingaspopular> my mom today actually said 'you must be real popular, if you're posingaspopular'
[09:36] <pestilence> no kidding
[09:36] <elias_> infinitee, when i use apt-cache search, do i search for everything that is downloadable?
[09:36] <infinitee> elias: yes, that are available in your emabled repos
[09:36] <Vilhelms> If I right click on an icon on my desktop and go to properties, how do I find out the location of the icon so I can use it in alacarte?
[09:36] <maimster> Anyone use the Ubuntu Unlease book?  If so what did you think?
[09:36] <pestilence> posingaspopular: so champaign is where the university of illinois is, in case you weren't aware (it comes as a shock to a lot of people in chicago, i know).  there are definitely a lot of people using linux here.
[09:36] <Wulfe> anybody want to help me with amarok in private convo or tell me stap by step how to get streaming audio to work
[09:36] <suzylee> how can I get Edgy to use my Nivda 7300 notebook graphics card?
[09:37] <posingaspopular> pestilence: ive visted the school and have friends there
[09:37] <pestilence> posingaspopular: good :)
[09:37] <erUSUL> Vilhelms: they are usually in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[09:38] <Vilhelms> erUSUL, I'm trying to get the ies4linux icon and its not in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[09:38] <minimec> suzylee: What do you mean by 'use'? You have no x-server interface=?
[09:38] <pbureau> !nvidia | suzylee
[09:38] <ubotu> suzylee: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:38] <webmaren> i'm trying to make a backup of my home folder but "sudo cp /home/sam/*" doesn't copy the folders
[09:38] <Zta> Can someone please help me with ivman?  I want my usb device to be automatically mounted and then have a script executed.  I can only get one of the two to get at a time.
[09:39] <pestilence> webmaren: you need cp -a
[09:39] <pestilence> webmaren: i would use rsync, though
[09:39] <suzylee> minimec: I dont think its using my Nivda 7300 notebook graphics card to the fullest ability as video and DVD doesnt play smoothly at all
[09:39] <Ferret> nekr0z: Command/show directory sIzes
[09:39] <Ferret> nekr0z: apparently. o.o
[09:39] <ahmaru3> ma non c' un modo per scaricare l'immagine da terminale o roba simile?
[09:39] <webmaren> pestilence: okay i'll give it a try
[09:39] <pestilence> webmaren: sudo rsync -av /home/sam /path/to/destination
[09:39] <posingaspopular> ahmaru3: french?
[09:39] <LjL> !it
[09:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:39] <Ferret> nekr0z: That *should* work... :/
[09:39] <Ferret> nekr0z: Assuming you have permissions to browse those directories
[09:40] <minimec> suzylee: Try to use the link of ubotu... ;)
[09:40] <nekr0z> Ferret: And it goddamn does! Thank you, man, I must have missed that one. Strange it has no hotkey :-(
[09:40] <pooya> Should I upgare to Edgy from dapper?
[09:40] <LjL> !language
[09:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:40] <LjL> pooya: we can't know for you... is there something you need in Edgy?
[09:40] <suzylee> minimec: what link?
[09:40] <pooya> LjL, WPA
[09:41] <minimec> !nvidia | suzylee
[09:41] <ubotu> suzylee: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:41] <posingaspopular> i have to shovel the neighbor's walk now
[09:41] <posingaspopular> brb
[09:41] <posingaspopular> (she's old)
[09:41] <pooya> LjL, hard to get it woring under dapper
[09:41] <LjL> pooya: just keep in mind that dapper is supported for much longer (meaning you get security updates, for instance), and it's often reported as being kind of more stable
[09:41] <pestilence> posingaspopular: good on ya
[09:42] <Hopposai> this is fun.. using ircii..
[09:42] <suzylee> minimec: right, fanx
[09:42] <Dallur> Anyone else having problems with fglrx since last kernel update for Edgy ?
[09:42] <Hopposai> reminds me of the days at uni
[09:42] <blatyo> I an
[09:42] <blatyo> am
[09:42] <pbureau> pestilence, depends if hes doing it out of the grace of his heart, or because he pity's her
[09:42] <LjL> Dallur: everyone who got it from unofficial repositories, yes
[09:42] <LjL> Dallur: you just update it
[09:42] <Wulfe>  any help with amarok with streaming audio ? private convo too
[09:42] <maimster> Hopposai: I thought that client was a lot like BitchX?
[09:42] <blatyo> I cant seem to get direct rendering on
[09:42] <cables> Dallur, everyone's having problems with everything after the updates.
[09:42] <nekr0z> Ferret: Thanks once again.
[09:43] <Dallur> LjL: thx, tried recompiling but still unable to load module :(
[09:43] <pestilence> pbureau: not from her standpoint it doesn't...does it
[09:43] <suzylee> since ubuntu loaded today, my hdd is going crazy and wont stop reading the HDD!  What could be causing that?
[09:43] <LjL> Dallur: tried rebooting after the recompile?
[09:43] <Hopposai> maimster: it is.. bitchX is like ircii for X
[09:43] <Dallur> LjL: yup, no luck
[09:43] <adaptr> Hopposai: bitchx has nothing to do with X
[09:43] <fredl> hi guys, I've created a Debian repository at http://ut-repo.surfnet.nl/, I've followed this document on http://www.jejik.com/articles/2006/09/setting_up_and_managing_an_apt_repository_with_reprepro/ to do so, but I'm having some difficulties with it, would anybody like to try and help me?
[09:43] <maimster> Hopposai: I have not used that client since my old Red Hat days.
[09:44] <pestilence> suzylee: it's probably running updatedb
[09:44] <maimster> Hopposai: I find IRSSI to do what I need, plus I like the scripts.
[09:44] <suzylee> pestilence: whats updatedb?
[09:44] <Hopposai> adaptr: you may be right.. been a long time since i used either
[09:44] <Hopposai> adaptr: actually you probably ARE right
[09:44] <adaptr> Hopposai: bopth are commandline clients
[09:44] <pestilence> suzylee: when you type locate from a command line, it uses the database generated by updatedb
[09:44] <cables> Can anyone tell me why I have "dapper-commercial" in my sources.list? I'm on Edgy. Did Automatix do that (I know automatix is bad, but I found out too late...)
[09:44] <Dallur> LjL: removed all packages, reinstalled, recompiled, and the error I get when I modprobe is F"ATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[09:44] <Dallur> "
[09:44] <Wulfe> anybody ... help with amarok ?
[09:44] <suzylee> preaction: okay
[09:44] <maimster> adaptr: Is there any other way to go?
[09:45] <pestilence> suzylee: from a command line, type "ps aux |grep updatedb"
[09:45] <elias_> !sh
[09:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:45] <LjL> cables: i guess that's enabled automatically when you select commercial programs from Add/Remove Programs, such as Opera or somesuch... though it might also have been added by automatix, for all i know
[09:45] <Hopposai> maimster: i use a WM so i can have mre command consoles running at the same time.
[09:45] <adaptr> maimster: go for what ?
[09:45] <cables> LjL, ok, thanks
[09:45] <LjL> Dallur: hm, i don't really know
[09:45] <cables> Wulfe, try channel #amarok
[09:45] <maimster> adaptr: I was seconding your notion about the commandline clients.
[09:46] <bouter> I' m having a huge problem installing my linksys WMP54G v4.1 NIC   who can help me?
[09:46] <pestilence> Wulfe: what's your problem?  you also might have more luck in #kubuntu, as that is a KDE app
[09:46] <cables> !wifi | bouter
[09:46] <ubotu> bouter: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:46] <blatyo> I'm having trouble getting direct rendering to run
[09:46] <cables> bouter, I think your card is covered there.
[09:46] <Dallur> LjL: thanks, I will try to figure it out later
[09:46] <maimster> Hopposai: I have a graphical running....  I still like my irc running via terminal.
[09:46] <adaptr> maimster: I did not claim anything one way or the other, merely corrected you in stating that bitchx is not in any way dependent on X
[09:46] <pbureau> bouter, come to #ubuntu-wifi Ill help you
[09:47] <maimster> adaptr: I know. i thought you were stating that fact that BitchX was a commandline base client is all.  No biggie though.
[09:47] <dc2447> is there anything in ubuntu I have to enable in order to get scripts in /etc/cron.daily to execute?
[09:47] <adaptr> maimster: yes, I was
[09:47] <pestilence> dc2447: shouldn't be.
[09:47] <suzylee> pestilence: I posted you the output
[09:47] <maimster> adaptr: Then I agree.  What client are you running, (just being nosey now).
[09:48] <adaptr> dc2447: copy the syntax from another one; they don't even have to be executable
[09:48] <adaptr> maimster: this is K
[09:48] <pestilence> suzylee: i don't see it.
[09:48] <dc2447> I'm nort even seeing the the script getting invoked in cron.log (I updated the default syslog settings)
[09:48] <maimster> adaptr: Ahh cool.  I have never used K.
[09:48] <UberPsyX> help, getting error when trying to install a deb file, dependency is not satisfiable: python. wtf?
[09:48] <LjL> UberPsyX: which deb file?
[09:49] <Hopposai> n
[09:49] <suzylee> pestilence: 22354  0.0  0.3   2888   812 pts/0    S+   07:50   0:00 grep updatedb
[09:49] <pestilence> suzylee: oh, so it's not running
[09:49] <adaptr> maimster: it's pretty near perfect, execpt for advanced stuff like  selecting out different users to a virtual channel to keep the clutter down (bitchx can do this)
[09:49] <pestilence> suzylee: is your hard drive still churning?
[09:49] <suzylee> pestilence: the HDD just stopped anyway
[09:50] <UberPsyX> LjL, gnomeboyadvance, a front end for visualboyadvance
[09:50] <maimster> adaptr: I do that also with irssi.
[09:50] <Spino_> hi, a quick question, how do i switch the startup splash screen (and see dmesg on boot?)
[09:50] <LjL> UberPsyX: link please - i don't see it in the repos
[09:50] <pestilence> suzylee: problem solved then :)
[09:50] <reap> how hard is it to set up a raid array on ubuntu?
[09:50] <HymnToLife> Spino_, remove the splash from your kernel line in gub
[09:50] <LjL> Spino_: remove "quiet splash" from the kernel command line
[09:50] <HymnToLife> grub, even
[09:50] <adaptr> reap: 3 minutes
[09:50] <reap> using an onboard promise ATA100 controller
[09:50] <Spino_> tnx
[09:51] <Spino_> there's no way to do it on the fly (say, manu linuxes would do it with esc)
[09:51] <Spino_> ?
[09:51] <Julien_> hi
[09:51] <adaptr> reap: use soft raid (aka linux kernel raid) , and shove the onboard crap down the drain...
[09:51] <blatyo> I'm trying to enable direct rendering, I have an ati card using fglrx driver, how can I do it?
[09:51] <LjL> Spino_: no, not on Edgy
[09:51] <Spino_> LjL: ok, thanks. thats kinda strange though :)
[09:51] <UberPsyX> LjL, http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/GnomeBoyAdvance-Download-3467.html
[09:51] <saras> saras@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb
[09:51] <LjL> Spino_: you can probably make the splash screen go away (with Alt+Fsomething rather than just Esc, i think), but you still won't see the messages
[09:51] <saras> (Reading database ... 58821 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:51] <saras> Preparing to replace skype 1.3.0.53-1 (using skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb) ...
[09:51] <saras> Unpacking replacement skype ...
[09:51] <saras> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
[09:51] <saras>  skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[09:51] <saras>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[09:51] <saras>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[09:51] <reap> adaptr: thanks, is it just as efficient as the onboard?
[09:52] <Julien_> i have a laptop pc, and i want to download ubuntu 6.10 with torrent file, so i use this file: ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent ?
[09:52] <Spino_> LjL: do you know if it's the same in kubuntu by any chance?
[09:52] <LjL> Julien_: i'd say so
[09:52] <HymnToLife> Julien_, you can use it if you want
[09:52] <cables> Julien_, that should work.
[09:52] <LjL> Spino_: i'm running kubuntu. yes.
[09:52] <Julien_> there is another one: ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[09:52] <adaptr> reap: it is a. 100% supported, b. 100% safe, and c. doesn't suck , like every single on-board fake-raid solution ever devised.
[09:52] <cables> Julien_, use the desktop cd
[09:52] <HymnToLife> Alternate ftw.
[09:52] <reap> lol
[09:52] <cables> Julien_, alternate is text-based.
[09:52] <Spino_> LjL: allright, thanks again
[09:53] <Julien_> ok thank you
[09:53] <reap> adaptr: i have a Promise PCI raid card...how will that work...any idea if the 2 raid setups will be an issue?
[09:53] <UberPsyX> LjL, http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/GnomeBoyAdvance-Download-3467.html
[09:53] <adaptr> reap: just FYI, every. single. so-called on-board raid "solution" is in fact fake.. there is nothing hardware-based about it
[09:53] <adaptr> reap: 2 raid "setups " ?
[09:53] <reap> so its just a softbios onboard?
[09:54] <reap> ya
[09:54] <adaptr> reap: it's properly called "host-based raid", which is the correct term for any system that does not present the raid set to the BIOS as if it were one drive
[09:54] <adaptr> reap: true hardware RAID makes the individual drives invisible to the PC
[09:55] <adaptr> reap: but if you want to mess around with the Promise "solution" be my guest... I'd just ditch it and go for kernel raid
[09:55] <reap> adaptr: thanks for your help...i am gonna be using ubuntu to slap together a low end server to play with later today...just wanted to know what i was in for
[09:56] <saras> who can tell me something about installing programs on ubuntu, i have a problem...  in private chat, please :(
[09:56] <quintin> reap: debian + sw raid = happiness
[09:56] <Hopposai> you forget how much you depend on the WM
[09:56] <adaptr> reap: install server 6.06 LTS, it will be supported until 2009 or something, takes about 30 mijnutes including disks
[09:56] <reap> adaptr: i dont care of teh onboard stuff...but i do have a PCI Promise Card that i bought that i would like to use in addition
[09:56] <adaptr> reap: just hang single drives off it then, not more than 1 per cable (or you performance will magically disappear)
[09:56] <Hopposai> reap: i have used 6.06 as well as 6.10 for servers
[09:57] <Hopposai> reap: either server version of ubuntu will serve you well
[09:57] <quintin> reap: lies. use debian!
[09:57] <adaptr> Hopposai: don't spread the noise please
[09:57] <rattlerviper> I used easy ubuntu and now ubuntu crashes all the time :(
[09:57] <rattlerviper> how do I fix it?
[09:57] <Zarathustra> Heya. I get a "The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!" when trying to run wine. Any ideas on how to correct this? I tried reinstalling my ati-drivers to no avail, got the idea that it's something basic I'm missing here...
[09:58] <reap> quintin: thanks, but i like all that ubuntu offers...its just too well done for me to piss around with debian...but thanks for your input, its much appreciated
[09:58] <Hopposai> rattlerviper: do you have a crash message?
[09:58] <rattlerviper> No...Gaim just crashes now when I connect
[09:58] <saras> can someone help me in private? :(
[09:58] <quintin> rattlerviper: what about typing 'gaim' in a terminal?
[09:58] <reap> hopposai: btw...thats a good anime series 2 thumbs up
[09:59] <quintin> reap: ubuntu is debian.. :p
[09:59] <rattlerviper> Hopposai, yeah I tried the terminal I don't get a error message
[09:59] <Cheetah> are there many people using ubuntu dapper?
[09:59] <Hopposai> saras: well depends on if you're cute and female 8-)
[09:59] <rattlerviper> Hopposai, it's only when I connect to jabber
[09:59] <reap> quintin: im a nub...forgive me...i havent touched a linux installation since the turn of the century
[09:59] <Jac1> ok, two questions. ONE) I unplugged my Hard Drive to try and boot ubuntu from the CD but now all i get is a loud beeping that won't stop (even when i plug it back in) and nothing appears on screen, How can i fix this? TWO) Does anyone know of any NES/SNES/GBA Emulators for linux?
[09:59] <Cheetah> or did most of them upgrade?
[09:59] <adaptr> it rocks for servers, so yes
[10:00] <ompaul> Cheetah, I use it for work desktops for people
[10:00] <adaptr> Jac1: ONE: you screwed up something on your mainboard, possible the video card, possibly something else
[10:00] <ompaul> Cheetah, where users want stability
[10:00] <quintin> saras: I've sent you *two* PMs.
[10:00] <ian|> Hi! I'm trying to compile alsa-sources with 2.6.19 kernel, but I get the error that "linux/config.h" cannot be found? Does anybody have some hints, what could be the problem?
[10:00] <Cheetah> ompaul: I have to put together some kind of system that I install by default on Point Of Sale PCs, so dapper is the way to go, right?
[10:01] <Hopposai> rattlerviper: only jabber? in that case see if you have all the files installed.. last time that happened to me i had to install nss and nspr
[10:01] <ian|> I use the debian/rules script to start compilation (target binary_modules)
[10:01] <ompaul> Cheetah, I would if that is what I was doing
[10:01] <Zarathustra> Heya. I get a "The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!" when trying to run wine. Any ideas on how to correct this? I tried reinstalling my ati-drivers to no avail, got the idea that it's something basic I'm missing here...
[10:01] <quintin> reap: ubuntu is built on debian unstable/testing.  I use debian for all my servers.  my personal desktop is ubuntu
[10:01] <quintin> Zarathustra: /join #winehq
[10:01] <Cheetah> ompaul: alright. are there any drawbacks I might have compared to the latest ubuntu?
[10:01] <rattlerviper> Hopposai, thank you I'll go check now
[10:01] <LjL> UberPsyX: that package requires a version of Python less than 2.4, and Ubuntu comes with 2.4. i guess it was made for an older Debian (remember anyway that, in general, packages made for Debian are far from guaranteed to work with Ubuntu)
[10:01] <Jac1> adaptr: how do i fix that? just poke around at stuff till it works? :P
[10:01] <saras> :(
[10:02] <Zarathustra> quintin: k thanks
[10:02] <Hopposai> jacl: you have a hardware problem as far as i can see.. tighten all the cards, maybe clean the cobwebs and the rat turds out of the casing..
[10:02] <saras> where is it?
[10:02] <adaptr> Jac1: that depends on how rich you are, I guess
[10:02] <ompaul> Cheetah, none for what you want to do - just make sure you got hardware that you can work with - i.e. straight off the shelf - nothing too fancy run of the mill and it should all be great
[10:02] <saras> i dont understand anything there
[10:02] <quintin> saras: ...
[10:03] <Jac1> adaptr: lol it doesn't really matter if everything goes caput, old machine
[10:03] <Jac1> Hopposai: kk, will try
[10:03] <Hopposai> saras: neither do we, we're just making it up as we go along
[10:03] <adaptr> Jac1: re-seat the video card, yes
[10:03] <Cheetah> ompaul: the hardware will be all standard, not even a fancy graphics card. alright. I'll go with dapper then.  :)
[10:03] <suzylee> does gparted support ntfs resizing?
[10:03] <adaptr> Jac1: also make SURE you do a complete cold boot
[10:03] <Hopposai> suzylee: the latest one on the livecd does
[10:04] <reap> whats the easiest windows file sharing program?
[10:04] <reap> somba?
[10:04] <Hopposai> suzylee: make sure you defrag and check the ntfs partition for errors BEFORE you resize
[10:04] <ompaul> Cheetah, there is only one thing you will want to consider in the future that is this new init script but wait for the next lts for it - parallel init scripts but not on a short term one
[10:04] <suzylee> Hopposai: is that version 0.3.3.0 ?
[10:04] <quintin> reap: samba
[10:04] <Jac1> adaptr: ahem, cold boot?
[10:04] <adaptr> Jac1: unplug power, wait 1 minute, plug i power
[10:04] <suzylee> Hopposai: I want to create a separate partition on my notebook 120gig HDD so I can install Edgy.  Will  gparted liveCD help me do that without losing MS Windows which is already on the HDD?
[10:05] <Jac1> adaptr: ok, thanks
[10:05] <Jac1> adaptr: so unplug power, poke around a bit, tighten cards etc. then wait 1 minute?
[10:05] <x2mjokada> hey guys, i'm trying to set up my network printer, and i'm running 'sudo hp-setup' but it gives me this error: error: No devices found.
[10:05] <x2mjokada> error: Error occured during interactive mode. Exiting.
[10:05] <x2mjokada> any help?
[10:05] <dyrne> suzylee: yes but back up anything you cant afford to lose first. there are occationally problems
[10:05] <adaptr> Jac1: you should unplug the power before you touch anything inside, yes
[10:05] <Lunar_Lamp> !adventure
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adventure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <suzylee> dyrne: ok
[10:06] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, are there any other text-based games like "adventure" in the ubuntu repositories?
[10:06] <suzylee> dyrne: will partition magic be better to use for that?
[10:06] <adaptr> Jac1:  if you did not unplug the power before yanking out the HD, you may very well have fscked your computer
[10:06] <adaptr> !Nethack | Lunar_Lamp
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <adaptr> stupid friggin bot flying piece of shite!
[10:07] <Lunar_Lamp> adaptr, nethack isn't the same kind of text based game.
[10:07] <adaptr> BLASPHEMY
[10:07] <Lunar_Lamp> It's nothing like the same kind of game!
[10:07] <adaptr> sure, but fuckbot not knowing about it is INEXCUSABLE
[10:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Hehe, true :-)
[10:08] <Lunar_Lamp> Does anyone know of a game similar to Adventure then?
[10:08] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:08] <dyrne> suzylee: i used to be wary of parted but it seems pretty robust now and to be honest im more worried about norton these days so either or i guess
[10:09] <yaman> any one can help me to get the asus laptop drivers for ubuntu (wifi or camera or modem or even vga)
[10:09] <patrick_> could someone PM me with the text of /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf and /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[10:10] <Dybber> How do i change the default browser? Links opened from xchat and gaim will open in lynx :s
[10:10] <NetCruZa> patrick_: i will
[10:10] <patrick_> thanks NetCruZa
[10:11] <sebrock> lasse__, I worked it out, it was gateway that needed to be specified
[10:12] <shawn> hrm nvidia drivers says  i need binutils, whats that about?
[10:13] <billybob> any rsync pros around ?
[10:13] <yaman> any tutorial for how to install hardware drivers ?
[10:13] <tim167> doe these work for anyone ? : http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9631/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[10:13] <alicen68> why is it when i type the cd command in terminal it tells me "rbash: cd: restricted"?
[10:13] <NetCruZa> patrick_: have you recieved it?
[10:14] <kcinna> hey all
[10:15] <alicen68> why is it when i type the cd command in terminal it tells me "rbash: cd: restricted"?
[10:15] <kcinna> ubuntu wont recognize my ipod, dmesg indicates that it's at /dev/sde, but it says sde2 doesnt exist
[10:15] <LesterGreen> anyone have a guide to learn linux quickly... a good overall primer. command line stuff and filesystem stuff really?
[10:15] <fiberchunks> kcinna, wouldn't it be /dev/sde1 ?
[10:16] <patrick_> no i didnt NetCruZa
[10:16] <comradeC> is there any kind of task viewer like the one in vista for linux?
[10:16] <NetCruZa> patrick_: well, the first file is empty, and I posted the other one here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5610/
[10:16] <erf> ~
[10:16] <erf> ~\\
[10:16] <patrick_> thank you!
[10:16] <LesterGreen> /server irc.gamesurge.net
[10:16] <LesterGreen> oops
[10:16] <erf> 1000000000000000001020000000000.
[10:17] <erf> 3.
[10:17] <erf> 32222128745120.*/89523
[10:17] <erf> 0.-*+96
[10:17] <erf> 3.*/20.
[10:17] <erf> ouch sorry cleaning the keyboard
[10:17] <erf> :/
[10:17] <erf> havent been on this box for a while
[10:17] <kcinna> fiberchunks: i read a guide saying it would be 2 since one is for the firmware partition, but that doesnt work either
[10:17] <erf> Hostname: stagma.ath.cx - OS: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE/i386 - CPU: 2 x Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (367.50-MHz 686-class CPU) - Processes: 29 - Uptime: 258d 16h 20m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 36.58MB/115.46MB (31.68%) - Disk Usage: 6.28GB/35.88GB (17.52%)
[10:17] <alicen68> why is it when i type the cd command in terminal it tells me "rbash: cd: restricted"?
[10:17] <adaptr> comradeC: "vista for Linux" :)
[10:17] <fiberchunks> kcinna, ah, hrm
[10:18] <Spee_Der> comradeC: I use system monitor.
[10:18] <icheyne> how come when I install a package using the NO RECOMMENDS flag, it tries to uninstall other unrelated stuff?
[10:18] <comradeC> sorry maybe I said something wrong
[10:18] <icheyne> sorry I was using aptitude!
[10:18] <comradeC> I mean the task manager thats 3d that shows all your windows
[10:18] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, you're using the rbash envirconment which is really strict security-wise on what you can and can't do.  cd is something you aren't allowed to do evidently (or at least, not to that dir)
[10:19] <adaptr> comradeC: that would be a task *switcher*, and yes - beryl does that 3d
[10:19] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: how do i get rid of rbash and just go back to bash?
[10:19] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, are you an administrator on your box?
[10:20] <fiberchunks> kcinna, kinda convoluted, but you could try using a partitioning tool to look at what partitions actually exist on /dev/sde (and then try to mount them) -- does the ipod use the vfat or fat filesystem? (I don't have one personally)
[10:20] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: through sudo, yes
[10:20] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, hmm, did you set rbash up yourself?
[10:20] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, does it happen every time you open up a terminal, or just this one time?
[10:20] <niko_> was there a bad update? after restarting x won't start
[10:21] <reap> probably a dumb question
[10:21] <reap> but if i wanna get somba
[10:21] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: i'm a friend of this user trying to figure out what's wrong with this pc, i had never even heard of rbash
[10:21] <reap> samba
[10:21] <reap> i need the debian one yes?
[10:21] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: it's every time i load up terminal
[10:21] <linxeh> reap: why not use the ubuntu one ?
[10:21] <reap> where is it?
[10:21] <erf> ~+/--+
[10:21] <linxeh> "samba"
[10:21] <cheeseboy16> whats the code to make a shortcut
[10:21] <linxeh> sudo apt-get install samba
[10:21] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell reap about samba | reap, see the private message from ubotu.
[10:21] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, ok, then the default shell is probably set to rbash in /etc/passwd - you can edit that file for the user to set it as bash.
[10:22] <HymnToLife> cheeseboy16, define "shortcut"
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, however, if you don't know the file, it can be dangerous to edit.
[10:22] <reap> thank you
[10:22] <cheeseboy16> link to another file] 
[10:22] <erf> alrighty
[10:22] <erf> working
[10:22] <cikas> i dont know how to make my tvtuner work
[10:22] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: if you mean a windows shortcut, then it isnt a link to another file
[10:22] <Lunar_Lamp> cheeseboy16, you mean how to symlink to another file?
[10:22] <cikas> in xp on the same pc is working
[10:22] <erf> is it possible to install beryl on freebsd?
[10:23] <cheeseboy16> i mean like windows shortcut
[10:23] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: the closest thing in linux is a browser bookmark, or a symbolic link (symlink)
[10:23] <dyrne> alicen68: "sudo sed -i 's/rbash/bash/g' /etc/passwd "   would be safe enough id think
[10:23] <cikas> doaes anybody knows about tvtuner?
[10:23] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[10:23] <linxeh> generally linux doesnt have a concept the same as "shortcut" in windows
[10:23] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:24] <cheeseboy16> k.. how do i do it?
[10:24] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, the root user there has their default shell set as bash.  Try pasting the whole contents of the file to pastebin
[10:24] <Lunar_Lamp> !pastebin | alicen68
[10:24] <ubotu> alicen68: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:24] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/ or something
[10:24] <linxeh> cheeseboy16: hundreds of tutorials came up when i googled for "linux symlink tutorial"
[10:25] <cbx33> is it easy for us to remaster an ubuntu live cd now?
[10:25] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5613/
[10:25] <maxamillion> how long should it take the installer to change the size of an 80gb partition to a 60gb partition?
[10:25] <cikas> doaes anybody have tvtuner on pc?
[10:26] <jk> Hi! I'm running ubuntu on a small webserver. Is it normal that there are like 9 apache processes and 18 mysql daemon processes runing (when checking with pstree) ?
[10:26] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68:x:1000:0:Alice Snyder,,,:/home/alicen68:/bin/rbash <== that line there [28]  change the very last bit from "/bin/rbash" to "/bin/bash".
[10:27] <cheeseboy16> cikas:, yes
[10:27] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: still saying restricted
[10:27] <AndrewWilliams> is there any way to force gnome sensors applet to detect a item under libsensors as a temp and not a voltage? the "sensors" command line shows it correctly but the applet doesnt
[10:28] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, hmm, the user may need to login and logout - at the very least start a new session.
[10:28] <linxeh> cikas: yes, I have 2
[10:28] <suzylee> if I install Xbuntu 6.10 on my notebook, should it automatically install the Nivda 7300 graphic card drivers for me?
[10:28] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, did the file save correctly? You will need to use "sudo" to edit the file.
[10:28] <htaccess> hi my sshagent seems to have died and now i have to type my passphrase every time i ssh anywhere, how do i restart the agent so it works properly on ubuntu?
[10:28] <linxeh> jk: yes that is normal
[10:28] <cikas> and how can i do mine working?
[10:28] <jk> linxeh: ok good to hear that :)
[10:28] <AndrewWilliams> suzylee, it should pick it up and use the NV driver for X, but for 3d acceleration you may need to download the nvidia drivers
[10:28] <alicen68> Lunar_Lamp: let me double-check the file, but it should work
[10:29] <Lunar_Lamp> alicen68, it's also possible that the bashrc file also is wanting to load up as rbash rather than normal bash :-)
[10:29] <linxeh> cikas: read the wiki / forums. there are lots of tutorials on getting "video4linux" and "mythtv" working
[10:29] <cypherdelic> so
[10:29] <suzylee> AndrewWilliams: download the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website?
[10:29] <linxeh> cikas: it's not particularly easy for some cards, and some are impossible
[10:29] <linxeh> cikas: : which card do you have ?
[10:29] <visik7> which memory subdivision use ubuntu kernel generic 1/3 3/1 2/2 or 4/4 ?
[10:29] <linxeh> suzylee: no, from the ubuntu repositories
[10:30] <cikas> how can i find what card i have?
[10:30] <linxeh> cikas: :well, you bought it surely ?
[10:30] <dyrne> cikas: lspci -v  or sudo lshw maybe
[10:30] <suzylee> linxeh: how do I do that please?
[10:30] <linxeh> suzylee: if you tell synaptic to use the universe and multiverse, you can install "nvidia-kernel-common" and "nvidia-glx" etc
[10:30] <AndrewWilliams> suzylee, nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[10:30] <linxeh> suzylee: the ubuntu wiki has several guides on getting it to work
[10:31] <cypherdelic> i reinstalled ubuntu edgy server now and installed cryptsetup. i got everything working as long as i use root=/dev/sda2 for kernel-line (menu.lst) . but i need to use root=/dev/mapper/root, if i do so, startup hangs
[10:31] <cikas> bt878
[10:31] <cypherdelic> please help
[10:31] <_3oo3> howdy
[10:31] <cypherdelic> how to make /dev/mapper/root an early cryptdisk
[10:31] <_3oo3> someone told me that ubuntu was african for 'I cant figure out Debian'.....is this true?
[10:31] <cikas> dyrne:bt878
[10:32] <ubuntujoop> can opera be installed in kubuntu ?
[10:32] <linxeh> cikas: that chipset is well supported - there are guides for setting it up
[10:32] <cypherdelic> i think it needs to be loaded before the main cryptdisks, because its the root
[10:32] <cypherdelic> but iot doesnt
[10:32] <suzylee> linxeh: can you give me a link to this guide you speak about?
[10:32] <cikas> give me a link pls
[10:32] <linxeh> suzylee: its in the topic
[10:32] <linxeh> cikas: use the links in the topic
[10:32] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:32] <NickGarvey> what command will tell me how much RAM I have?
[10:32] <linxeh> NickGarvey: "free"
[10:32] <erUSUL> NickGarvey: free
[10:32] <boom> Help me please ... I want to play a game ... windows game ...
[10:32] <suzylee> linxeh: which link?
[10:32] <NickGarvey> hah, thanks
[10:32] <boom> what I need
[10:32] <boom> ?
[10:32] <NickGarvey> I know that actually
[10:33] <NickGarvey> knew*
[10:33] <NickGarvey> hm, question 2 then
[10:33] <_3oo3> someone told me that ubuntu was african for 'I cant figure out Debian'.....is this true?
[10:33] <NickGarvey> it is not detecting both sticks..
[10:33] <NickGarvey> let me see if the bios.. sees it..
[10:33] <linxeh> suzylee: www.ubuntu.com/support I guess ?
[10:33] <cypherdelic> i reinstalled ubuntu edgy server now and installed cryptsetup. i got everything working as long as i use root=/dev/sda2 for kernel-line (menu.lst) . but i need to use root=/dev/mapper/root, if i do so, startup hangs
[10:33] <UrteTe> hi. is it possible to make a symlink to a remote server using ftp?
[10:33] <suzylee> linxeh: you guess?  you not sure either?
[10:33] <bogus> Kopete
[10:34] <linxeh> suzylee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:34] <xavier___> hi. how do i disable gdm boot .. keeping only console login?
[10:34] <linxeh> suzylee: it really isnt hard to find the wiki link from www.ubuntu.com...
[10:34] <bogus> Witam
[10:34] <boom> What I need to play an exe game ??
[10:34] <dyrne> UrteTe: you could use sshfs i guess but im not sure of solution for ftp..
[10:35] <Hopposai> hmm sound STILL doesn't work
[10:35] <linxeh> boom: wine, or if you want an easy life, cedega (www.cedega.com) or crossover office - www.codeweavers.com
[10:35] <drake> boom: WINE
[10:35] <Hopposai> uninstalled alsa, and had to reinstall a whole BUNCH of software.
[10:36] <boom> were can i get wine ?
[10:36] <dyrne> boom: wine or cedega. cedega might be easier to configure but it has a minimal fee. /join cedega for info maybe
[10:36] <Hopposai> boom: a liquor shop?
[10:36] <UrteTe> dyrne: thanks
[10:36] <cypherdelic> Help, im trying to encrypt my root, i got "no cryptroot configured,skipping". Works fine if I use old Root for startup and mount the encrypted partitions as additional encryptioned disks
[10:36] <linxeh> boom: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:36] <Hopposai> boom: wine can be got by enabling the multiverse on your sources.list file and then using apt-get
[10:37] <boom> linxeh doesn`t find ... wine:(
[10:37] <linxeh> boom: you need to enable multiverse
[10:37] <boom> how?
[10:37] <linxeh> Hopposai just told you...
[10:37] <Hopposai> boom: can you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[10:38] <sidny4> does anyone know the directory to put themes in (manual install)
[10:38] <boom> i don`t know how :(
[10:38] <Hopposai> boom: distro and version please?
[10:38] <tretle> can anyone tell me if ntfs writing has been added to the feisty fawn herd 3 release?
[10:38] <dan_> sidny4 it's just your .themes folder
[10:38] <Hopposai> boom: can you use a command line?
[10:39] <sidny4> haha, the one place I didn't think of, thanks dan_
[10:39] <Hopposai> tretle: i think its in ntfs-3g mackage in multiverse
[10:39] <dan_> lol
[10:39] <boom> ubuntu 5.10
[10:39] <dan_> it's in your home folder
[10:39] <tretle> hopposai, Its not added as default?
[10:39] <Hopposai> boom: do you know how to use a command line/command line editor
[10:40] <boom> no
[10:40] <Hopposai> tretle: not sure on that, it may not be. depends on how the community reacts to it. enabling ntfsread-write by default can have SERIOUS consequences
[10:40] <dyrne> tretle: im not seeing ntfs-3g on my machine
[10:40] <Hopposai> boom: ok, lets start simple then
[10:41] <dyrne> tretle: herd 3
[10:41] <tretle> its in early stages of developement then? yes?
[10:41] <Hopposai> boom: apt-get install synaptic
[10:41] <huXfluX> hello all! i have a laptop with a touchpad and a mouse attached on usb. If i go to control panel > periph > mouse and lower the acceleration, it lowers it for touchpad ONLY. How can i modify the acceleration of the MOUSE?
[10:41] <Hopposai> tretle: ntfs-3g is pretty mature, but anything that touches NTFS is bound to be unstable.
[10:41] <andrea> hola alguien que hable espaol
[10:41] <bcardarella> I'm getting a 'make not found' error for a program I am trying to install... I user apt-get to install gcc, is there anything else that needs installation for make?
[10:41] <boom> i have it
[10:42] <BrendanM> huXflux, how is your xorg.conf setup
[10:42] <BrendanM> andrea, hablo un poco espanol
[10:42] <xavier___> hi. it seems my hard disk is full ... and now i gdm cannot write its configuration file in the /etc ... wht should i do? i deleted lots of stuff .. how much free space is reqd for login?
[10:42] <cikas> i type sudo gedit.etc/modules  and the answer was command not found
[10:42] <BrendanM> !es | andrea
[10:42] <ubotu> andrea: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:42] <boom> Hopposai what i do now
[10:42] <tretle> and dosn anyone know of any open source software comparable to dreamweaver suit?
[10:42] <dan_> hey guys, im trying to compile the mesa dri source from cvs in order to enable dri on the r300 chipset of radeon cards, but it keeps crashing out with a compile error
[10:42] <cikas> i type sudo gedit/etc/modules  and the answer was command not found
[10:42] <JoachimLM> hello people :)
[10:42] <andrea> Gracias!
[10:42] <Hopposai> boom: ok go to settings > repositories and enable all four repos
[10:42] <JoachimLM> I have a problem with k8n-4e motherboard and ubuntu
[10:43] <huXfluX> BrendanM: well, there's only one inputdevice > the touchpad
[10:43] <huXfluX> and one for keyboard
[10:43] <Hopposai> boom: universe mail multiverse and restricted
[10:43] <JoachimLM> The NIC won't work, and there's a MIIO resource problem, it says
[10:43] <JoachimLM> any clue ?
[10:43] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / as early cryptdisk, so i can startup?
[10:43] <CupCakeMaster> i need help burning iso's whats a good program i can use?
[10:43] <JoachimLM> there's k3b CupCakeMaster
[10:43] <dan_> however the mesa source compiled fine when i got it out of the git repo
[10:43] <JoachimLM> it's easy to use
[10:43] <BrendanM> huXfluX? So your USB mouse isn't represented in xorg.conf?
[10:43] <dan_> does that mean that current mesa cvs is broken?
[10:43] <huXfluX> nope
[10:44] <huXfluX> and i don't know the driver
[10:44] <huXfluX> and the /dev/ thing
[10:44] <BrendanM> that's probably the root of your problem
[10:44] <crazy_penguin> Good night
[10:44] <JoachimLM> whatever NIC is used, it will fail
[10:45] <nochance> is there a german channel for ubuntu help too ?
[10:45] <BrendanM> huXfluX, I'm not an expert on xorg.conf, but I can show you my file if you want. I also have a laptop with a touchpad + usb mouse (I also have a pointstick)
[10:45] <JoachimLM> the forcedeth driver fails with errorcode -22, etc.
[10:45] <UrteTe> dyrne: works like a charm
[10:45] <BrendanM> !de | nochance
[10:45] <ubotu> nochance: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:45] <nochance> !de
[10:45] <huXfluX> BrendanM: show me the part with the usbmouse please;)
[10:46] <jexdawg> can i change the font color on my ubuntu panels? for instance, change the font to white and the panel background to black? the bg is easy to change but i don't see an option for the font
[10:46] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[10:47] <BrendanM> huXfluX, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5622/
[10:48] <dan_> also, my glxgears also seems broken
[10:48] <dan_> i keep getting glxgears: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmOpenOnce
[10:48] <BrendanM> I think the trick is to have one thing configured as "CorePointer" and then the other devices have "SendCoreEvents" turned on, so they pass all their input through that core device
[10:49] <elias_> Could anyone tell me how to install .sh files?
[10:49] <boom> Hopposai: i`m redy now ?
[10:49] <NetCruZa> Any memory editors for linux, that works like TSearch?
[10:49] <BrendanM> elias_, set their permissions to make them executable, then run them with ./ <filename>
[10:50] <elias_> BrendanM, im pretty new, so what do you mean by set their permissions to make them executable?
[10:51] <entel> which matrix printer is good?
[10:51] <squeaks> hey guys, i can use all my internet applications, but in gnome-terminal i have 100% packet loss on pings anywhere farther but not including my router, what can i do?
[10:51] <mojo_> !botsnack
[10:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:51] <entel> squeaks,  see u /etc/resolv.conf
[10:52] <elias_> !java
[10:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:52] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[10:52] <squeaks> entel, search resnet.cornell.edu \n nameserver 192.168.2.1
[10:52] <squeaks> that nameserver is my router's ip
[10:53] <squeaks> the name server should be my isp's right?
[10:53] <entel> squeaks, do you know the DNS of ur company?
[10:53] <entel> yep..
[10:53] <squeaks> i don't, but should this be automatic with dhcp?
[10:53] <BrendanM> elias_, in Linux, files have specific permissions specifying what different users are allowed to do with them (read, write, run as an executable), you can change the permissions with the chmod command. In your case, you want to run "chmod u+rwx <filename>"
[10:53] <adaptr> squeaks: most routers forward DNS to whatever it got from your ISPs DHCP
[10:54] <RaptorJesus> i got a disk is confused error when trying to run the live CD any solutions???
[10:54] <BrendanM> elias_, that command will make it so that users (the "u" part) can read, write, and execute the file (r, w, x)
[10:54] <squeaks> entel, adaptr, woah, google must be refusing my pings, i can actually ping others
[10:54] <squeaks> but not google
[10:55] <entel> google does not like u :P
[10:55] <squeaks> google has been who i always go to for pings
[10:55] <BrendanM> elias_, alternatively, you can probably right-click the file and go to properties and find a way to change it there
[10:55] <cikas> i followed all the steps from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935 and nothing(in xp tvtuner is running)
[10:55] <elias_> BrendanM, ill try it out
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[10:57] <Seveas> Apparently it's peanutbutter-jelly time again on irc
[10:57] <Seveas> RichiH, thanks!
[10:57] <RichiH> did i miss any bot?
[10:57] <RichiH> Seveas: de nada
[10:58] <Seveas> let's see if you missed any
[10:58] <adaptr> peanutbutter jel-LY ! peanutbutter jel-LY!
[10:58] <BrendanM> So when I bring my machine back from hibernate, there are some error messages that flash by really quickly before the X server comes back up. Does anyone know how I can see those messages?
[10:58] <Seveas> BrendanM, try dmesg
[10:58] <dan_> so uh, anyone know what my prob is?
[10:59] <dyrne> dan_: what was your question?
[10:59] <dan_> hey guys, im trying to compile the mesa dri source from cvs in order to enable dri on the r300 chipset of radeon cards, but it keeps crashing out with a compile error
[10:59] <entel> m
[11:00] <dan_> it seems to be an issue with includes but i'm not really sure what i'm doing wrong
[11:00] <Seveas> !compiling | dan_
[11:00] <ubotu> dan_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:00] <RaptorJesus> so has eny 1 ever get an disk is confused error when trying to load the boot CD??
[11:00] <Seveas> dan_, read that wikipage and look for 'build-depends'
[11:00] <mojo_> what is so funny that i missed?  hey man, can i get in on that rotation?  <//////////# ~ ~  ;)
[11:01] <fiberchunks> you folks know if there's a way to load a kernel module on the liveCD at install time
[11:01] <Seveas> more bots coming in
[11:03] <Seveas> dan_, you need lbc6-dev, just install build-essential
[11:03] <Seveas> cables, the freenode staff is clever :)
[11:04] <Seveas> (and they have detailed logs)
[11:04] <cikas> i followed all the steps from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935 and nothing(in xp tvtuner is running)
[11:04] <cikas> pls help
[11:04] <dan_> Seveas: actually that's already installed =/
[11:04] <Seveas> tidiman07, jellobean: you'll need to repeat your qustion, noone saw it
[11:05] <jellobean> Seveas: I am installing ubuntu for the first time, and I get the error cannot access tty; job control turned off
[11:06] <Seveas> jellobean, is that when booting from the cd or booting from harddisk?
[11:06] <jellobean> booting from the cd
[11:06] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[11:06] <toM|vendettA_> hi i was wondering if it was possible to run open gl games in like... a seperate xserver so that i could get a better framerate, i know there was a tutorial on how to do it but i dont know what to search for
[11:06] <Seveas> jellobean, your cd may be broken, it has a self-test option. Please try it
[11:06] <agliv_> Greetings all :) is ubuntu available for 64-bit Intel Core 2 Duo ?
[11:06] <Seveas> RichiH, ?
[11:06] <RichiH> argh, fuck
[11:07] <RichiH> sorry
[11:07] <Seveas> heh
[11:07] <Seveas> I'll find the old topic :)
[11:07] <cables> Spambot control channel?
[11:07] <Music_Shuffle> agliv_, yeh
[11:07] <Hopposai> agliv: i believe so
[11:07] <RichiH> Seveas: i did /topic #ubuntu spambot control channel in the runner channel
[11:07] <Seveas> RichiH, LOL :)
[11:07] <RichiH> Seveas: but irssi is too illigent to let me do that
[11:07] <fiberchunks> Seveas, any idea about my earlier question (is there a way to load a specific kernel module via boot: line on liveCD?)
[11:08] <MetaBookfoziS> !nvidia
[11:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:08] <Seveas> ompaul, thanks
[11:08] <ompaul> Seveas, np
[11:08] <ompaul> RichiH, your still great :)
[11:08] <Seveas> fiberchunks, there may be one but such things are very underdocumented
[11:08] <livingdaylight> unop, ping
[11:08] <RichiH> ompaul: heh, thanks ;)
[11:08] <fiberchunks> whom or where should I ask?
[11:08] <livingdaylight> unop, hey amigo
[11:08] <pbureau> !llibdvdcss
[11:08] <pbureau> !libdvdcss
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about llibdvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:08] <fiberchunks> perhaps #ubuntu-devel?
[11:09] <Seveas> fiberchunks, that channel is not for support
[11:09] <fiberchunks> ahhh
[11:09] <marwan> hello guys
[11:09] <jellobean> seveas: i tested the cd and i get the same error "cannot access tty; job control turned off"
[11:09] <CupCakeMaster> i need help
[11:10] <Seveas> fiberchunks, try 'grep /proc/cmdline /etc/init.d/*
[11:10] <dyrne> marwan: hey
[11:10] <Seveas> jellobean, cd test was succesful?
[11:10] <linxeh> CupCakeMaster: go see a shrink
[11:10] <jellobean> seveas: nope...gives me the same error message
[11:10] <CupCakeMaster> im trying to instal wine but i get this error 'wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\run.exe": Module not found
[11:10] <CupCakeMaster> "
[11:10] <Seveas> jellobean, then the cd is definitely broken
[11:10] <agliv_> Music_Shuffle, but on ubuntu.com it says that the 64-bit-version is for AMD systems... not intel...
[11:10] <cypherdelic> Howto mount encrypted / (root) as "early cryptdisk", so i can startup? root=/dev/mapper/root cryptoroot=/dev/sda4 does not work, help please.
[11:10] <marwan> !dvd
[11:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:10] <linxeh> agliv_: the 64bit version works on intel and amd 64 bit
[11:10] <marwan> !nvidia
[11:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:11] <marwan> !i915
[11:11] <linxeh> agliv_: AMD created the 64bit extensions for the opteron. Intel then copied them to stay in the game
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <marwan> !intel
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <jellobean> seveas: should i burn a new cd using the same .iso image?
[11:11] <Seveas> jellobean, check the md5sum of the iso
[11:11] <Seveas> !md5 | jellobean
[11:11] <bimberi> !msgthebot > marwan
[11:11] <ubotu> jellobean: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:11] <marwan> hey guys, Can someone point me to a good information site on how to setup my graphics driver for i915
[11:12] <Seveas> marwan, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[11:12] <jellobean> !md5
[11:12] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:12] <marwan> Seveas thanks
[11:13] <Seveas> marwan, also make sure to use i810 as driver in xorg.conf
[11:13] <cables> marwan, hold on
[11:13] <agliv_> linxeh, so the 64-bit PC version is also for Intel Core 2 Duo processors?  Why doesn't it say that on Ubuntu.com?
[11:13] <cables> marwan, Seveas, what about xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[11:14] <Seveas> cables, that should be installed by default
[11:14] <Seveas> agliv_, not al core 2 duo machines are 64bit
[11:14] <marwan> cables: what do you mean?
[11:14] <cables> Seveas, not on my system... does it automatically install it if you have an intel graphics chip?
[11:14] <zackglennie> quick question: what does it mean to compile an application under a directory?  I have a source .tar.gz which I presume I can install, I just don't know how to install it "under /usr/local/sbin"
[11:14] <Seveas> cables, you probably have upgraded from breezy or an early dapper
[11:15] <cables> Seveas, installed from scratch. marwan should at least make sure it's installed before he changes the driver.
[11:15] <dyrne> zackglennie: ./configure --prefix=/home/username/local/     or whatever then just make or make install
[11:15] <zackglennie> thx
[11:15] <Seveas> cables, definitely but it's really installed by default on an edgy ubuntu-desktop machine
[11:16] <Seveas> maybe ubiquity does funky hardware detection, but I doubt that :)
[11:16] <cables> marwan, run this command please: "aptitude show xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep State"
[11:16] <linxeh> agliv_: dunno; generally the EM64_T extensions are refered to as amd64 I guess
[11:16] <khermans__> does the Ubiquity installer support software RAID?
[11:16] <cables> marwan, that will make sure you have the right driver installed
[11:17] <jman_> does anybody know any good tutorials or guides for setting up Samba as a PDC?
[11:17] <bcardarella> What is the username that Apache uses for permissions?
[11:17] <Seveas> jman_, is an example config good enough?
[11:17] <Seveas> bcardarella, www-data
[11:17] <jman_> yes Seveas
[11:18] <Seveas> jman_, ok, hang on
[11:18] <khermans__> jman_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC
[11:18] <Seveas> khermans__, ah, nice! Didn't know that existed :)
[11:18] <cwatt> ? some one help me  in one issues in windows
[11:19] <cables> cwatt, there's a #windows channel
[11:19] <Seveas> !windows | cwatt
[11:19] <ubotu> cwatt: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:19] <cwatt> In my company has a w23 with AD but all the machine has a Ubuntu
[11:19] <cwatt> how autentifi with active directory
[11:19] <cables> cwatt, what is a w23 with AD, and what's the ubuntu-relaed problem?
[11:19] <jman_> what is a w23?
[11:20] <cwatt> w2k3
[11:20] <Seveas> cables, windows 2003 with active directory I assume :)
[11:20] <cwatt> sorry
[11:20] <cwatt> yes
[11:20] <cwatt> so sorry
[11:20] <Seveas> cwatt, do you want a dmoain logon or just browsing the shares?
[11:21] <cwatt> yes my boss need that but all the team :$
[11:21] <marwan> cables: Thank you vey much I will try that
[11:21] <khermans__> if the GUI installer on the LiveCD does not support RAID config + install, can i use the text mode installer from the GUI in a shell?  what is the text mode installer binary to launch?
[11:21] <Seveas> cwatt, you may want to look into winbind and some weird pam stuff
[11:21] <cables> marwan, that won't fix anything, just check if the driver's installed. If it's not, you'll have to install it.
[11:21] <cables> Damn, marwan left
[11:21] <agliv_> Seveas, you wouldn't happen to know if the E6400 is 64-bit or not, having trouble finding good results with google...
[11:21] <compengi> can i monitor on my box the number of processes that are connected to the internet?
[11:22] <cwatt> I will try to install that with LDAP
[11:22] <Seveas> cwatt, there is pam_ldap, not sure if that does AD to
[11:22] <khermans__> compengi, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:22] <jellobean> agliv_ im trying to find out the same thing
[11:23] <khermans__> compengi, oh i thought you asked a really dumb question, processors
[11:23] <barbarella> Seveas:no, that is not the way
[11:23] <cwatt> seveas what system are better
[11:23] <khermans__> compengi, netstat -an
[11:23] <agliv_> jellobean, Seveas according to http://www.intel.com/products/services/emea/deu/sitelets/viiv_features.htm the E6400 is 64-Bit
[11:23] <cwatt> to authentication
[11:23] <cwatt> ubuntu with AD
[11:24] <agliv_> Seveas, according to http://www.intel.com/products/services/emea/deu/sitelets/viiv_features.htm the E6400 is 64-bit...
[11:24] <chorse> perhaps  "netstat -an | grep -v unix" to get rid of the unix sockets
[11:24] <linxeh> cwatt: PAM i guess
[11:24] <Seveas> cwatt, I don't really know, never used Ubuntu with AD, only windows with samba on ubuntu :)
[11:24] <linxeh> PAM_LDAP should work with AD
[11:24] <linxeh> I've used LDAP to authenticate against an AD before
[11:24] <bfdhud> How can I completely remove all traces of Java, I didn't accept the EULA and now it wont work and add/remove cant get rid of it
[11:24] <Seveas> linxeh, good to know :)
[11:24] <cwatt> PAM
[11:24] <jellobean> agliv_ according to http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2768780 it is 64-bit
[11:24] <MurderousHobo> If I have a ubuntu server here, not connected to eth0, but eth0 has my router in
[11:24] <MurderousHobo> How do I conenct it
[11:24] <cwatt> ok tks
[11:24] <linxeh> hang on, I've got an example search string for AD here
[11:25] <hairulfr> Hello
[11:25] <jellobean> agliv_ i ran the regular ubuntu live cd on my e6400 and it hadn
[11:25] <jellobean> agliv_ i ran the regular ubuntu live cd on my e6400 and it hasn't worked yet..im thinking i might need the 64=bit
[11:25] <shatrat> bfdhud, you read the eula? I think youre the first person in the history of software to do that.
[11:25] <bfdhud> no
[11:25] <pic_> heya
[11:25] <bfdhud> shatrat, I was quick clicking and didnt check the box
[11:25] <Music_Shuffle> jellobean, you can run regular LiveCD's on dual-cores, or 64 bits, or any mix therein.
[11:26] <cafuego_> agliv_: Just becase a cpu is an x86_64 doesn't mean it would be best to run a 64bit Linux on it. Certainly not if you're going to use it for the desktop.
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> !network
[11:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:26] <bfdhud> shatrat any idea's how to get it off my computer so i can reinstall
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> !ethernet
[11:26] <shatrat> bfdhud, How did you try to install it?  Im not really familiar with it since I havent had any problems but maybe I can help
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <technomancy> if i ever try to get a windows refund it's helpful to be able to say you read it and disagreed with it
[11:26] <cables> bfdhud, do you know the name of the java package you installed?
[11:26] <jellobean> music_shuffle...thanks for the info
[11:26] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[11:26] <cables> bfdhud, was it Sun Java 5 or 6?
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> Does anyone know how to connect to an ethernet device
[11:26] <MurderousHobo> i.e. router
[11:26] <bfdhud> Cables it was java 5
[11:26] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, usually you just plug in and it works.
[11:26] <bfdhud> cables from the add/remove menu
[11:26] <cables> bfdhud, hold on a sec
[11:27] <cables> bfdhud, open a terminal
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I need a console command, im on server
[11:27] <linxeh> cwatt, Seveas: this is what I use with JBoss to use AD as an LDAP auth source- http://rafb.net/p/XzEhaa14.html
[11:27] <bfdhud> cables ok
[11:27] <joe-cot> :(
[11:27] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, oh I see.  Well are you plugged in? Does it at least physically look like it should work? Theres probably a green light that comes on at both ends to show connected.
[11:27] <linxeh> cwatt: the important bits are the uidAttributeID I guess
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> Yes
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> It is plugged in
[11:27] <MurderousHobo> But the router doesnt show it in devices
[11:27] <cables> bfdhud, run this command: sudo aptitude remove sun-java5-plugin
[11:28] <cables> bfdhud, if it asks you anything, ask me before answering.
[11:28] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ok, what does "ifconfig" say for eth0, eth1, etc.  Do they have IP addresses? not ipv6 btw
[11:28] <cables> bfdhud, you can paste into the terminal with ctrl-shift-v
[11:28] <MurderousHobo> shatrat I dunno
[11:28] <Seveas> linxeh, interesting!
[11:28] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Im kinda doing this without a monitor
[11:28] <MurderousHobo> Heh
[11:28] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yeah, you have a command line? type ifconfig
[11:29] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Let me go get a monitor
[11:29] <bfdhud> cables it seemed to work fine
[11:29] <jellobean> If my hard drive is new and has never been partitioned will that cause problems in boot up on a live cd of ubuntu?
[11:29] <agliv_> cafuego, please explain...
[11:29] <Music_Shuffle> jellobean, no.
[11:29] <joe-cot> i updated to feisty, because i wanted to use kvm .... and then found out it works based on hardware virtualization, and my chip doesn't support it >_<
[11:29] <khermans__> Does anyone know the command to run the text mode installer?
[11:29] <cables> bfdhud, didn't ask you anything?
[11:29] <shatrat> jellobean, you could boot the liveCD even with no HD at all
[11:30] <joe-cot> does anyone know about kqemu? does that also only work on dual-cores?
[11:30] <bfdhud> no
[11:30] <fiberchunks> shatrat, assuming that the liveCD will recognize your cdrom drive :)  which is my problem
[11:30] <khermans__> joe-cot, check out virtualbox
[11:30] <cables> bfdhud, if you're back at the terminal (you see a $), you can run "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin" to install it. Make sure you do it right this time :)
[11:30] <joe-cot> khermans__ : i'm on 64 bit
[11:30] <bfdhud> cables it's fixed
[11:30] <fiberchunks> sorry, assuming the liveCD _kernel_ has the proper module loaded for the cdrom drive
[11:30] <bfdhud> cables thanks, I'll actually check the box this time :)
[11:30] <cables> bfdhud, didn't you want to install java?
[11:31] <cables> bfdhud, ok... don't run the second command i sent
[11:31] <shatrat> fiberchunks, well, the liveCD is often more trouble than it's worth imo.
[11:31] <cables> bfdhud, you can do it again from add/remove
[11:31] <khermans__> joe-cot, do you need 64-bit gusts?
[11:31] <bfdhud> cables i'll install from the add /remove window, I didnt check the accept EULA button on accident last time
[11:31] <joe-cot> khermans__ no, i just want windows 2000
[11:31] <fiberchunks> shatrat, perhaps you might know -- is there a way to tell the installer kernel -- hey, use _this_ kernel module for the IDE controller?
[11:31] <khermans__> joe-cot, then it will work, so will vmware server
[11:32] <joe-cot> khermans__ i've tried both. vmware server dies. I have a thread about it on their site, and they have no idea what the problem is
[11:32] <Lenaud01-Coding> I have Ubuntu laptop version installed trying to get Broadcom Wireless going I have ndiswrapper going and drivers loaded and it says Hardware present Yes yet I cant get wireless ? I noticed the radio is off and I cant get it turned on this worked another distro any ideas?
[11:32] <khermans__> joe-cot, last hope is Xen with VT CPU extensions
[11:33] <joe-cot> khermans_ but i don't have VT cpu extensions. that's the problem
[11:33] <shatrat> fiberchunks, Probably but I dont know it.  You might try the options "irqpoll" and "pci=noacpi" though if you havent yet, those sometimes clear up problems
[11:34] <Err_> i'm trying to use vmware player to run windows through ubuntu, but when i click on the .vbx file it tells me that it is unable to access /dev/vmmon, that the file does not exist, and that my monitor is not supported
[11:34] <khermans__> joe-cot, well virtualbox should work then
[11:34] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I have a monitor now
[11:34] <barbarella> Lenaud01-Coding:has your laptop got a name, like hp....etc.
[11:34] <fiberchunks> shatrat, indeed, I've gone through the regular motions -- I've pretty much determined that it's the controller driver (due to some forum posts), and I just really, really don't want to get all into the usb stick install, or other foolishness - I will if I have to though
[11:34] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, sweet, "ifconfig" will list your adapters
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> lo
[11:35] <Lenaud01-Coding> @ barbarella its a Gateway 7422GX
[11:35] <agliv_> jellobean, just go to http://support.intel.com/products/viiv/requirements.htm <- if Intel doesn't know, who would?
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> it says lo
[11:35] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, thats the only one?
[11:35] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, try scrolling up
[11:35] <Lenaud01-Coding> I think the issue might be that I am running 32 bit ubuntu and the broadcom drivers are 64bit
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> No its the only one
[11:35] <MurderousHobo> but ifconfig eth0 does stuff though
[11:35] <Lenaud01-Coding> but I cant find 32 anywhere
[11:35] <knyt> Anyone got a fix for the recent feisty update that makes the gui hang on the transition to gnome?
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> I also have ra0 wireless
[11:39] <mecfs4_> Does anyone know why k3b won't eject a DVD disk when you want to make a copy?
[11:39] <Lenaud01-Coding> iwconfig I can see Broadcom 4306
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ok in your eth0 is there an "inet addr:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" on the second line?
[11:39] <Lenaud01-Coding> almost seems like radio is off
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, No
[11:39] <Lenaud01-Coding> but normally I turn that on with FN+Wireless and thats worked in gentoo but now
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, does the machine have multiple interfaces? if so you might have to check eth1, eth2, etcetera
[11:39] <ghostdog> !pastebin
[11:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> It has ra0 and eth0
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ok.  well if eth0 doesnt have an IP then you are in fact not connected.  Is your router set up to use DHCP?
[11:39] <barbarella> Lenaud01-Coding:strange, should work out of the box.
[11:39] <agliv_> cafuego, why would I not want to install 64-Bit Ubuntu?
[11:39] <jellobean> checked my md5sum on my iso and it the sums match up correctly, what can cause my cd to be malfunctioning?
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Ys
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well, something is gone wrong there.  Perhaps if you set a static IP you will be ok, thats assuming that the problem is just the DHCP
[11:39] <grodius> hey I need help installing a .jar file on my computer
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> It wouldnt connect in the setup
[11:39] <rexsum> how is snort configured by default on ubuntu?
[11:39] <kitche> MurderousHobo: java -jar <file>.jar or do you want to put it someplace?
[11:39] <erUSUL> grodius: java -jar file.jar
[11:39] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I dont know or have a clue about static ips
[11:39] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well, you can change the config for your interface by editing the text file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:39] <kitche> MurderousHobo: sorry about that that was for grodius :)
[11:40] <negen> what is the best webcam program for ubuntu?
[11:40] <frogzoo> rexsum: -> snort.conf
[11:40] <MurderousHobo> kitche, Okay
[11:40] <bruenig> !webam | negen
[11:40] <cables> !webcam | negen
[11:40] <bruenig> !webcam | negen
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ubotu> negen: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:40] <thor> hi. i have problem setting the password for remote desktop connection. Does anyone know what is the configuration file for this service ?
[11:40] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Only lo is there, should eth0 be?
[11:40] <rexsum> frogzoo, i just want it to log to /var/log/snort
[11:40] <rexsum> but doesnt even take the -l <directory> override
[11:40] <rexsum> (keeps logging to tty)
[11:41] <elyon225> What can I do to increase my internet speed?  For some reason, all websites are now loading VERY slowly...
[11:41] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, I dont think kitche meant to say that to you, thats for installing java programs.  I think eth0 should be there...maybe there is a driver problem.  Do you know what chipset the ethernet adapter uses?
[11:41] <frogzoo> rexsum: it logs through syslog
[11:42] <knyt> The virtual consoles also lack gettys after the update, so the only way to command is through the 'failsafe terminal'
[11:42] <frogzoo> !ipv6 | elyon225
[11:42] <ubotu> elyon225: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:42] <agnostic> any actual laptop works with ubuntu?
[11:42] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I have used ubuntu desktop before and it worked out of the box
[11:42] <frogzoo> agnostic: what kind of a question is that?
[11:42] <frogzoo> !hardware | agnostic
[11:42] <ubotu> agnostic: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:42] <joe-cot> khermans_ was there something you saw that led you to believe virtualbox worked on 64? everything i'm seeing says it doesn't
[11:42] <negen> the drivers for the webcam already come  installed with ubuntu which is nice the cam works right after install too bad flash dosnt have color correction
[11:42] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, in that case I dont really understand it.  try "lspci | grep controller" and look for your ethernet controller
[11:43] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Ethernet controller: nVidia Corp. nForce Ethernet Controller (rev c2)
[11:43] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, same thing I have, mine worked as well, although ive never tried the server install.
[11:43] <lwizardl> hi
[11:43] <negen> I think that GyachI must be the better progam to use
[11:43] <rexsum> nvm
[11:43] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Does the desktop cd have ubuntu-desktop on
[11:44] <MurderousHobo> well obviously it does
[11:44] <lwizardl> anyone setup ubuntu as a storage server ?
[11:44] <MurderousHobo> or should
[11:44] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yeah.
[11:44] <rexsum> i just needed coffee, tail -f /var/log/snort/alert &... , whoopsie :D
[11:44] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, How would I install desktop if I have it here
[11:45] <cables> MurderousHobo, you mean you want to install Ubuntu on your computer?
[11:45] <adaptr> lwizardl: easy, use 6.06 lTS, it has very good LVM support to span your storage across mutltiple drives
[11:45] <sleepy723> anyone using irssi?..
[11:45] <lwizardl> adaptr, what about 6.10?
[11:45] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well, you could just go through the installer.  There are ways to install packages through apt from a CD but if you just now installed the server edition it would probably be just as fast and easier to just go through the installer.
[11:45] <adaptr> lwizardl: 6.10 is not LTS
[11:45] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, The desktop installer didnt work
[11:46] <cables> sleepy723, there's an #irssi channel if you want help with it
[11:46] <adaptr> lwizardl: for a storage box, you install it once then don't bother anymore... you want LTS
[11:46] <|rt|> lwizardl: I haven't had any problems with LVM on 6.10
[11:46] <barbarella> shatrat:what module is loaded, so you can help MurderousHobo
[11:46] <MurderousHobo> I have the desktop install mounted
[11:46] <cables> MurderousHobo, is there a problem with it?
[11:46] <Onore_e_Gloria> hi
[11:46] <stylus> Hey
[11:46] <sleepy723> cables, no one is responding in there
[11:47] <erUSUL> sleepy723: me
[11:47] <sleepy723> I tried that channe
[11:47] <MurderousHobo> cables, I have a ubuntu server install here, and a ubuntu desktop. I want to install the desktop
[11:47] <sleepy723> erUSUL, should I use screen or fifo for irssi
[11:47] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, could you run lsmod |  grep forcedeth? Id still like to figure out how to get your ethernet working
[11:47] <MurderousHobo> Specifically the ubuntu-desktop package
[11:47] <cypherdelic> How to configure cryptroot??
[11:47] <MurderousHobo> Sure
[11:48] <Chicory> ... Question.
[11:48] <MurderousHobo> forcedeth 32780 0
[11:48] <Chicory> Why is, uh, ...
[11:48] <erUSUL> sleepy723: i use it with screen donno what fifo is. anyway irssi only needs a terminal
[11:48] <Chicory> Why is Ubuntu claiming that home/yamathan is NOT my home directory?  :P
[11:48] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, well...youve got the driver running.  Now im more confused.
[11:48] <Chicory> My username IS yamathan.
[11:48] <Chicory> So ...
[11:49] <Chicory> Why does Ubuntu think that my home directory doesn't belong to me?
[11:49] <cypherdelic> ALERT! /dev/mapper/root does not exist. Dropping the shell!
[11:49] <cables> Chicory, did you just create that user?
[11:49] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, When I originally installed this, the ethernet wasnt connected
[11:49] <frogzoo> !anyone | Chicory
[11:49] <ubotu> Chicory: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:49] <Chicory> Nope.
[11:49] <Chicory> I created it at installation.
[11:49] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, hmm, maybe if you add an entry for it to your /etc/network/interfaces it will work.
[11:49] <thor> where ubuntu stores vnc password? Or another worlds where ubuntu stores password that you enter to connect via remote desktop?
[11:49] <SeanTater> I want to be able to ude mailx to send an e-mail to an e-mail server I have set up. What options in exim4 do I need to change for it to mail to remote domains?
[11:49] <frogzoo> Chicory: finger yamathan
[11:49] <fiberchunks> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/solutions/en/winvista?c=us&l=en&s=gen#faq11  look down the page under the "Windows Vista Capable" part of the chart
[11:50] <Chicory> Hmm?
[11:50] <Chicory> Frog, what of it?
[11:50] <Chicory> The input just describes how long I've been on.
[11:50] <coreymon77> hi everyon
[11:50] <coreymon77> e
[11:50] <MurderousHobo> Ifconfig just decided to start listing eth0
[11:50] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, add 2 lines to your /etc/network/interfaces that look like "auto eth0" and below that "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[11:50] <Chicory> Which is actually one minute as of "finger".
[11:50] <Nergar> !wmv
[11:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:50] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, we're dealing with a very devious computer, its thinking ahead of me.
[11:51] <MurderousHobo> those lines arnt there yet
[11:51] <frogzoo> Chicory: should show your homedir, or grep yamathan /etc/passwd
[11:51] <MurderousHobo> so should i add them?
[11:51] <coreymon77> i was wondering about the -11 kernel update
[11:51] <coreymon77> have the nvidia and wifi bugs been fixed
[11:51] <coreymon77> ?
[11:51] <Chicory> frogzoo:  Nope.  :P
[11:51] <MurderousHobo> Added
[11:51] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yes, thts how mine is set up.
[11:51] <cables> coreymon77, probably not.
[11:52] <MurderousHobo> Still not connected
[11:52] <coreymon77> should i just not bother and just wait until the next kernel update to upgrade my system
[11:52] <coreymon77> ?
[11:52] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, now use the command "ifup" to load them
[11:52] <grodius> Can someone help me? IM trying to install an IDE for Java and I cant find where my java tools.jar file is located
[11:52] <cables> coreymon77, you might want to wait.
[11:52] <frogzoo> Chicory: so where did they go?
[11:52] <MurderousHobo> Connected.
[11:52] <Chicory> ...
[11:52] <frogzoo> coreymon77: if you're up & running atm, that might be best
[11:53] <Chicory> Frog, I sudo'ed it.
[11:53] <Chicory> It SAYS my directyory is /home/yamathan!
[11:53] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Thanks for staying with me :)
[11:53] <erUSUL> grayscale: maybe you instaled the jre but you need the sdk ??
[11:53] <Chicory> *directory, rather
[11:53] <frogzoo> Chicory: define "I sudoed it"
[11:53] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, everythings working? Great
[11:53] <Chicory> sudo finger yamathan.
[11:53] <erUSUL> grodius: maybe you instaled the jre but you need the sdk ??
[11:53] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Yeah, now I can install vnc and get rid of this monitor
[11:53] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, you could installed ubuntu-destktop with apt-get now if you still want to.
[11:53] <Chicory> for that matter ...
[11:53] <erUSUL> grayscale: sorry was a bad tab completion ;P
[11:53] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, ssh imo ;)
[11:53] <Chicory> "finger yamathan" did the same trick.
[11:53] <Chicory> Damn.
[11:53] <Chicory> That was :F
[11:54] <frogzoo> Chicory: grep yamathan /etc/passwd
[11:54] <sroske> Hi, just installed edubuntu 6.10 on a pII 200mhz, "unable to locate RDSP" on boot, keeps rebooting ????
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, Thats what im doing
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> This is gunna be a server
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> But I like fancy stuff
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> I guess
[11:54] <Chicory> Frog:  yamathan:x:1000:1000:Yamathan Contril,,,:/home/yamathan:/bin/bash
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> !vnc
[11:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> :)
[11:54] <grodius> erUSUL, I have the SDK downloaded. its a .bin file, but i guess i need to install it
[11:54] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, even when im sitting down at a computer, I still prefer commandline most of the time, so im def. not a VNC oriented person.  ymmv :D
[11:54] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, I use a Mac
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> shatrat, What do you expect
[11:55] <erUSUL> ubotu tell grodius about java | grodius see priv msg from ubotu
[11:55] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, shh, youll be lynched round these parts
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> Heh
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> I used to use ubuntu
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> At least im using something which is atleast unix based
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> Unlike SOME things
[11:55] <grodius> erUSUL, is java6 not out for linux?
[11:55] <erUSUL> grodius: java is in the repos see priv msg of ubotu
[11:55] <Seveas> grodius, it is, in feisty
[11:55] <shatrat> MurderousHobo, yeah if I could afford it I would have a macbook.  instead I have a spiral notebook.
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> Heh
[11:55] <erUSUL> grodius: yes it is i installed the jre from repos
[11:55] <Chicory> frogzoo: This is very, VERY odd.
[11:55] <MurderousHobo> I have had two macbooks
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> They both broke within 3 days
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> I got an iMac now
[11:56] <frogzoo> Chicory: ls -ld /home/yamathan
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> Hardware broke
[11:56] <Seveas> !offtopic | MurderousHobo
[11:56] <ubotu> MurderousHobo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:56] <sroske> excuse me, but is there any information on "unable to locate RDSP" google and unbuntu forums were unhelpful.
[11:56] <grodius> erUSUL, ok well i already had java5
[11:56] <MurderousHobo> Sorry
[11:56] <erUSUL> grodius: is in multiverse
[11:56] <frogzoo> Chicory: assuming you know what you're doing & haven't been playing, yes, very odd
[11:56] <Chicory> Frog, to be honest I haven't had enough time to play.
[11:56] <grodius> erUSUL, i need to point my IDE to where its installed, how do i find it
[11:57] <Chicory> Stupid storm sort of screwed up my plans to.
[11:57] <kameron> can someone help me mount an ntfs drive?
[11:57] <Seveas> !ntfs | kameron
[11:57] <ubotu> kameron: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:57] <frogzoo> Chicory: ls -ld /home/yamathan
[11:57] <erUSUL> grodius: dpkg -L sun-java5-jdk (or 6)
[11:57] <Chicory> ...
[11:57] <michaelpo> i've installed a few packages... now i can play dvd... but not vcd... did i miss out any packages?
[11:57] <Chicory> drwxrwxrwx 48 yamathan yamathan 4096 2007-02-13 16:56 /home/yamathan
[11:57] <sleepy723> which is better for scripts, xchat or irssi?
[11:57] <Chicory> It all SEEMS to be in order.
[11:57] <barbarella> sroske:you can start with what mainbord you have.
[11:58] <rockPod_MAN> hey is there a way to have ubuntu boot from the cd drive first becaus eI went into bios and changed the disc order but that did nothing. I can't access anything after the grub menu and a terminal, so could someone tell me what to do to get the cd(desktop live disc) to boot so I can reinstall?
[11:58] <Seveas> irssi if you like perl, xchat if you like python
[11:58] <Chicory> ...
[11:58] <Chicory> Waaaait, waaaait ...
[11:58] <kameron> i have 1 ntfs drive that mounts fine, another one is having problems.
[11:58] <frogzoo> Chicory: world writable homedir - nice
[11:58] <kameron> i cant read anything from the disk.
[11:58] <kameron> but in windows i can.
[11:58] <MystaMax> !restricted > Chicory
[11:58] <sroske> barbarella: I would have to crack open the case for that. It's an old machine. Does it come to that?
[11:58] <Chicory> frogzoo: Hmm?
[11:59] <kameron> Seveas, ?
[11:59] <frogzoo> Chicory: dude, did you make your homedir world writable?
[11:59] <Seveas> kameron, look at what ubotu said
[11:59] <fiberchunks> it sure is
[11:59] <kameron> Seveas, i saw that. but it's not working.
[11:59] <frogzoo> Chicory: what services do you run on the box & does the box have an internet IP?
[12:00] <barbarella> shatrat:it's a start
[12:00] <Chicory> ...
[12:00] <Chicory> Not that I KNOW of, no.
[12:00] <grodius> Hey im trying to install a .bin file, can someone help me
[12:00] <hairulfr> Happy valentines day all.... http://www.fat-pie.com/love.htm
[12:00] <mathrick> hey, is there an equivalent of dpkg --get-selection, but for aptitude?
[12:00] <fiberchunks> others == write with those permissions chicory
[12:00] <Chicory> I've given read access to the group and I SHOULD take it down to "none" for others, but I don't screw with the defaults ...
[12:00] <harisund> Does anybody know how I can resize my NTFS partition (of 60 GB) to create a 30 GB seperate partition to install Ubuntu in? I have only 8 GB of data in the 60 GB NTFS partitoin.
[12:00] <frogzoo> Chicory: what services do you run on the box & does the box have an internet IP?
[12:01] <mathrick> I want to carry over the installed packages, but I don't want aptitude to think everything was installed manually