[12:46] <LordGamer> anyone know a good VM for linux?
[12:46] <Jester45> qemu
[12:48] <Jester45> i got a ftp site mounted :)
[12:49] <LordGamer> cool now that I installed it with Packet Manger where did it go?
[12:49] <LordGamer> Package*
[12:49] <Jester45> use qemu /image/path/ to run it
[12:52] <grazie> LordGamer: not tried it myself yet, but a lot of people like virtualbox
[12:52] <Jester45> this is pretty cool
[12:52] <LordGamer> thanks grazie
[12:55] <Blais1> well can't get firefox or opera to work
[12:55] <Blais1> but hey, Beryl works a treat! :D
[12:55] <Jester45> thats good
[12:56] <Jester45> took me a long time
[12:56] <Blais1> i wouldn't mind having a working webbrowser though...
[12:57] <Jester45> its most likly a bug
[12:57] <Jester45> xgl isnt to stabole
[12:57] <Jester45> stable
[12:58] <grazie> Jester45: Blais1 had same problem before beryl though
[12:58] <Blais1> this has been the case before I installed beryl, it doesn\t use xgl either
[12:59] <Jester45> try turning off beryl and see if it opens
[12:59] <Blais1> I used this howto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301364&highlight=howto+beryl+ati
[12:59] <grazie> Jester45: this was before beryl was installed!
[12:59] <Blais1> i even tried berylIve not been able to use firefox even on the live cd, before
[12:59] <Blais1> yes yes :D
[01:00] <Blais1> exuse my grammer this laptop keyboard is a pain
[01:00] <grazie> Blais1: have you ever used links or brillo?
[01:01] <maxamillion> brillo?
[01:01] <grazie> :)
[01:01] <Blais1> are you being cheeky?
[01:01] <maxamillion> well ... links exists and brillo might ... but not in the repositories
[01:01] <Blais1> I think I need a little more than that :)
[01:02] <Blais1> is brillo like dillo?
[01:02] <grazie> yes dillo is just so brillo
[01:04] <Blais1> right I'm off, will have to tackle this another day, I'm not giving up just yet
[01:04] <grazie> maxamillion: Blais1 gets segmentation faults with opera and firefox. I'm stumped. Any ideas?
[01:05] <maxamillion> hmmm... not really, segmentation fault can mean almost anything in most cases
[01:05] <Blais1> :S
[01:05] <Blais1> ok
[01:05] <Blais1> maybe tomorow, thanks chaps
[01:05] <Blais1> gnight
[01:05] <grazie> maxamillion: on a fresh install and disk checks out fine!
[01:06] <grazie> maxamillion: wget works though so that's something...
[01:08] <maxamillion> grazie: still strange though
[01:09] <grazie> maxamillion: yeah...I think so too. both install and live cd the same
[01:09] <maxamillion> grazie: the live cd does it?
[01:09] <grazie> yeah, so he's says...
[01:11] <maxamillion> that's bad
[01:11] <maxamillion> it has to be the iso image or the burn if it happens on the live cd .... or he has a hardware problem
[01:12] <grazie> xubuntu & ubunru the same....I was about say hw too... iso is a frozen build though
[01:13] <maxamillion> yeah, if it seg faults on live cd and hd install, i vote bad ram
[01:13] <grazie> maxamillion: he also XP is fine though
[01:16] <maxamillion> grazie: XP doesn't manage memory worth a darn, i wouldn't doubt it just said "oops, bad block ... just use the next one" ... i think he should do a memtest86+
[01:17] <grazie> maxamillion: true
[01:18] <maxamillion> doesn't look like qt though :/
[01:18] <maxamillion> interesting
[01:19] <grazie> maxamillion: how come the hp printer toolkit is installed on *ubuntu by default?
[01:19] <maxamillion> grazie: well technically it only needs the python-qt3 package so i don't see that being too big of a problem, but its still annoying .... and because they probably need it installed by default
[01:20] <maxamillion> but stilll .... <3 hp for writing linux drivers
[01:22] <RPO> anyone know why a floppy mounted rw reports "RO File system" even when root?
[01:22] <maxamillion> !floppy
[01:22] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[01:23] <maxamillion> RPO: i think you have to change permissions or something
[01:23] <RPO> maxamillion, also how can I backup my partition table & boot sector to a CDR?
[01:24] <maxamillion> RPO: uhmm... i don't know, but why would you want to do that?
[01:26] <RPO> maxamillion: I'm about to install Vista and Windows tends to hose my partition table
[01:27] <RPO> RPO, I know, "and why would you want to do that?"  hehehe
[01:27] <maxamillion> Windows shouldn't hose your partition table ... your grub config maybe, but not your partition table
[01:28] <RPO> maxamillion: someone told me there's a backup utility that has an option for this but didn't know the name
[01:28] <RPO> maxamillion: well, i'd like to back that up, then
[01:28] <Jester45> guess what
[01:29] <Jester45> i made a script that mounts a ftp as a folder
[01:29] <Jester45> im very happy with it
[01:29] <maxamillion> mounts a ftp server as a folder?
[01:29] <Jester45> yes
[01:29] <Jester45> like mounting a harddrive
[01:30] <RPO> maxamillion:  how do I instantiate the new /etc/fstab?
[01:32] <maxamillion> RPO: mount something
[01:32] <maxamillion> RPO: well ... unmount and remount that floppy to be more specific
[01:41] <win2lin> maxamillion, so after Windows hoses GRUB, etc, which it does every time, how do I put it back with the Live CD?
[01:45] <win2lin> maxamillion: never mind, I found an article on it.  I presume that I should put grub in the MBR and not in the Linux boot partition, right?
[01:45] <maxamillion> boot the live cd, mount that hard drive and run update-grub
[01:46] <maxamillion> win2lin: yes
[01:46] <win2lin> maxamillion: well, thatt's a lot less work than what the article says you have to do!
[01:46] <win2lin> maxamillion: and that will still let me dual boot Vista & Linux?
[01:46] <maxamillion> yeah
[01:47] <Jester45> no vista
[01:47] <maxamillion> i have dual boot xp and xubuntu at work (the machine i am on now) and grub in the mbr works like a charm
[01:47] <maxamillion> Jester45: no vista?
[01:47] <Jester45> it el sucko
[01:48] <win2lin> thanks, people!
[01:49] <maxamillion> Jester45: well .. we know that
[01:50] <Jester45> have your tried it?
[01:56] <RP2> sorry, I still can't write to the floppy,  i did mv S* /media/floppy (and floppy0 and floppy-1) and it says first two invalid and last one is RO)
[01:56] <RP2> actually, I did sudo mv S* /media/floppy-1
[01:57] <RP2> it tries to copy but says "Read only file system"
[02:09] <_Dez> Hi guys
[02:09] <Jester45> hi
[02:10] <_Dez> Whats up
[02:11] <Jester45> scipting
[02:15] <Jester45> ownage
[02:15] <Jester45> ownage
[02:15] <_Dez> really
[02:15] <Jester45> yes
[02:16] <RP2> can anyone tell me why I can sudo but not login as root?
[02:16] <Jester45> i just made a script to mount a ftp site
[02:16] <_Dez> sweet
[02:17] <Jester45> wanna try it?
[02:17] <_Dez> No ftp sites for me
[02:17] <_Dez> i dont know any
[02:17] <Jester45> what about http?
[02:17] <_Dez> do you know of a gui for unrar?
[02:17] <_Dez> sure http
[02:17] <Jester45> ok let me work on the http
[02:18] <grazie> RP2: cos' the root account is not enable by default
[02:18] <Jester45> o
[02:18] <Jester45> RP2: its a safy feature
[02:19] <Jester45> safty
[02:19] <RP2> grazie, well, I'm having just a hec of a time here... I can't write files to my floppy drive, printing png files results in a black page, and I can't login as root  :(
[02:20] <RP2> grazie, and I can't change my video to 1600x1200
[02:20] <RP2> :( :(
[02:21] <RP2> grazie, how do I enable root?
[02:22] <grazie> RP2: you almost certainly don't need to...it's why you've got sudo
[02:23] <RP2> grazie, OK, well, my floppy drive is mounted /dev/sdc /media/floppy-1 rw but it says Read Only file system (I'm using VFAT) AND Use floppy drive is checked for every user.
[02:24] <RP2> grazie, if I use sudo mv ... it says "Operation not permitted"
[02:26] <grazie> RP2: I'm off to bed now....I'll look at it for 2 minutes
[02:26] <RP2> grazie, thanks, if I can get past that I can get on with what I need to do
[02:27] <grazie> RP2: isn't your floppy device /dev/df0?
[02:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Is the switch on the floppy set to read-only?
[02:28] <Jester45> smart one PuMpErNiCkLe
[02:31] <Jester45> sorry i can only get ftp working
[02:31] <RP2> grazie, it's an external USB.  I did figure out that /media/floppy0 and /media/floppy-1 are just directories in the file system and are not apparantly linked to the floppy drive (anymore) (earlier, it was floppy-1)
[02:33] <Jester45> any one here good at making images
[02:33] <Jester45> ??
[02:33] <BFTD> no
[02:34] <Jester45> dang
[02:34] <Jester45> i need someone to make somthing simpole for me
[02:34] <Jester45> simple
[02:34] <Jester45> a banner with FTP--->(a folder) look to it
[02:36] <Jester45> maybe i can work on it at school tomarro
[02:44] <Jester45> http://jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/Scripts/Scripts.tar.bz2
[02:45] <Jester45> a ftp mount/ unmounter i made
[02:45] <Jester45> please test if you can
[03:50] <Sharn> Hello again. :P
[03:50] <BFTD> hello
[03:50] <BFTD> how are you today/tonight?
[03:50] <Sharn> Bored and tired. xD
[03:50] <Jester45> good
[03:51] <Jester45> hi Sharn
[03:51] <Sharn> Hello
[03:51] <Jester45> guess what
[03:51] <Sharn> What? :O
[03:51] <Jester45> i made a script and a nice one at that
[03:51] <Sharn> Sweeeet. To do what?
[03:51] <Jester45> mounts ftp sites
[03:51] <Jester45> well
[03:52] <Sharn> Wow. That would be interesting. xD
[03:52] <Jester45> adds a kernal modual then mounts
[03:52] <Sharn> Impressive. :)
[03:52] <Jester45> i think im gonna slip it into 2 scrips one to install other to mount
[03:53] <Jester45> becuase right now each tiem you run it script to mount its trys to install
[03:53] <Sharn> Put it in a .deb. :)
[03:53] <BFTD> Jester45 make sure that gets into the next version of Ubuntu
[03:53] <Sharn> ++ ^
[03:54] <Jester45> you guys want?
[03:54] <Jester45> jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org
[03:54] <Jester45> you can pick zip or bz2
[03:55] <Jester45> bz2 is smallers
[03:55] <Sharn> Someone will have a use for it
[03:55] <Jester45> i have a use
[03:55] <Sharn> Yeah
[03:55] <Jester45> mounting all the ftp sites i want
[03:55] <Sharn> Are you like... hosting that site?
[03:55] <Jester45> so i dont have to search on line
[03:55] <Jester45> yes
[03:55] <Jester45> hehe nice main page
[03:56] <Sharn> I agree. xD
[03:56] <Jester45> its really my 2nd site
[03:56] <Jester45> but... the 1 was a few years ago
[03:56] <Jester45> and was really good
[03:57] <Jester45> i need cellofellow to install php or somthing for me
[03:57] <Sharn> Don't have php?
[03:57] <Jester45> no
[03:57] <Sharn> Ouch...
[03:58] <Jester45> never got around to it
[03:58] <Jester45> im good with html when i have the time
[03:58] <Jester45> might just make a blog
[03:58] <Jester45> seems like the best idea
[03:59] <Sharn> Blog... with html? Manually edit it?
[04:00] <Jester45> no
[04:00] <Jester45> later
[04:00] <Jester45> right now i just wanted to have somthing to get files from a remote computer
[04:00] <Jester45> like a school
[04:00] <Sharn> Ahhh. Mk
[04:00] <Jester45> stream my music or video
[04:01] <Sharn> Are you hosting it on the computer you'ree on?
[04:01] <Jester45> yes
[04:01] <Sharn> Sweet. My internet is about 20x too slow for that. :P
[04:02] <Jester45> what you got
[04:02] <Jester45> upload
[04:03] <Sharn> 45Kbps max... like actual upload.
[04:04] <Jester45> 2mbit for me 800ish
[04:14] <_Dez> Slow!
[04:14] <_Dez> 10mbit here
[04:15] <Jester45> up or down
[04:15] <_Dez> up and down
[04:15] <_Dez> Beta testing 10mbit in my small town of 2,222 people
[04:15] <_Dez> :p
[04:16] <_Dez> costs me $60
[04:16] <Jester45> gay s***
[04:17] <Jester45> i alpha  test a t3 line
[04:17] <Jester45> how do you test internet?
[04:17] <Jester45> umm... yep its working
[04:18] <Jester45> dose sourceforge have ftp?
[04:19] <_Dez> T3 sucks
[04:19] <_Dez> its like dsl :/
[04:20] <Jester45> fine
[04:20] <_Dez> try ftp.download.com
[04:21] <Sharn> Lmfao
[04:21] <Sharn> I only have DSL. Our census like 4 years ago was only 1000. :P
[04:22] <Sharn> And IT costs $60. >.<
[04:22] <Jester45> OC-3072
[04:23] <Jester45> 159.25248 Gbps
[04:23] <Jester45> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OC48#OC-3072
[04:24] <Sharn> Insane
[04:24] <Jester45> oc-768 is highest in use
[04:25] <Sharn> 40Gbps
[04:25] <Jester45> i wouldnt mine oc1 or oc1/2 or even 1/4
[04:26] <Sharn> Yeah. xD
[04:26] <Jester45> well
[04:26] <Jester45> not 1/4
[04:26] <Sharn> 1/4 would be... like 12.5Mbps?
[04:26] <Jester45> 25% of 50
[04:26] <Jester45> thats kinda slow
[04:26] <Jester45> 1/2 wouldnt be bad
[04:27] <Sharn> Mmmmm.... That's still pretty fast.
[04:27] <_Dez> Thats to freakin fast
[04:27] <_Dez> no hdd would take that load
[04:27] <Jester45> of what
[04:27] <Sharn> I agree
[04:27] <Sharn> You couldn't even write to your HDD that fast
[04:27] <Jester45> and its called a router
[04:28] <Sharn> Mine's 3Gb/ but that's only a 4th of 1/4. xD
[04:28] <Sharn> Actually, no, I'm confused..
[04:28] <Sharn> -smacks self-
[04:29] <_Dez> lol
[04:30] <Sharn> Head for the hills. Jester45 has an idea.
[04:30] <Jester45> lol
[04:30] <Jester45> use my script to mount free ftp sites
[04:30] <Jester45> so you can upload to them
[04:30] <Jester45> easy backups
[04:30] <Sharn> It'll wokr that way?
[04:32] <Sharn> Woops. xD
[04:32] <Jester45> it should work
[04:32] <Jester45> if you find a site that will lets you upload
[04:32] <Jester45> you can use one with accounts also
[04:32] <Sharn> Sweet.
[04:33] <Jester45> you would just put user@pass:site:port
[04:33] <Sharn> If you had fast enough internet you could almost use it as just another HDD
[04:33] <Jester45> lol
[04:33] <Jester45> here comes my oc 3000
[04:33] <Sharn> xD
[04:34] <Sharn> I imagine, unless you have a very good job you can't afford it.
[04:34] <Sharn> You can try though. :P
[04:34] <Jester45> sence the 1000 version isnt made yet :)
[04:35] <Jester45> wanna help me find a ftp site?
[04:35] <kalikiana> in germany even 16mbit is still the limit for personal use :/
[04:36] <Jester45> ha ha
[04:36] <Jester45> most ppl in us that have broadband have 3m or 12
[04:36] <Jester45> many have more
[04:37] <Sharn> Not me. =\
[04:37] <kalikiana> our monopoly telekom is 'planning' to establish 50mbit to the inner cities... no idea how long that takes.
[04:37] <kalikiana> I'm on 2MBit/192kbit :/
[04:37] <pbcrunch> is there a disk image i can download to boot the xubuntu cd from a floppy?
[04:37] <Jester45> cable?
[04:37] <Sharn> Everyone's faster than my sad DSL
[04:38] <Sharn> Probably pay less for it too.
[04:38] <pbcrunch> my computer does not support boot from optical drive
[04:38] <Jester45> pbcrunch: yes im not sure where
[04:38] <kalikiana> nope, DSL, a disconnect every 12hours :'/
[04:38] <Sharn> That fast on DSL?
[04:39] <Jester45> dsl can get fast
[04:39] <Jester45> i think the max is 30mb
[04:39] <Jester45> but thats costly
[04:39] <Sharn> pbcrunch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2050526
[04:39] <Jester45> there is a lot of DSL versions
[04:39] <kalikiana> There is no real difference in speed between cable and DSL here
[04:40] <kalikiana> although cable is a bit more expensive
[04:40] <Jester45> cable noramly has lower upload
[04:40] <kalikiana> the good thing about cable would be: no disconnect
[04:40] <pbcrunch> Sharn that looks helpful thanks
[04:40] <Sharn> Really?
[04:40] <Sharn> pbcrunch: You're welcome
[04:41] <kalikiana> I need to go to Japan, they have 50MBit for like 20 I believe
[04:41] <_Dez> later guys
[04:41] <_Dez> im out
[04:41] <kalikiana> cya
[04:41] <Jester45> japan is cool
[04:41] <Sharn> 20... yen? Not sure what that symbol is...
[04:41] <Jester45> weird food
[04:41] <Jester45> its not 20 yen
[04:41] <kalikiana> Sharn, should be a 'euro' :D
[04:41] <Jester45> there is like 300 yen per USD
[04:42] <Sharn> :P
[04:43] <Sharn> A euro is like worth twice USD, right?
[04:44] <kalikiana> Sharn, like 1,3usd i think :)
[04:44] <Sharn> Hmmmm... Ok.
[04:45] <kalikiana> but buying my bentos from the us will cost some toll :/
[04:46] <Sharn> bentos?
[04:48] <kalikiana> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bento ;)
[04:48] <kalikiana> it's the boxes in my case
[04:50] <Sharn> Bleh
[04:50] <Sharn> Looks nasty. xD
[04:51] <Jester45> anyone know of a free ftp site?
[04:52] <kalikiana> pah, i guess i'd be scared if i knew what you eat :P
[04:52] <Sharn> Pizza
[04:52] <Sharn> Tacos
[04:52] <Sharn> xD
[04:52] <Sharn> Jester45: Get a host. :P
[04:53] <Jester45> free
[04:53] <Sharn> byethost.com
[04:53] <Sharn> They have to activate your account, though... It may take ap to a couple hours.
[04:54] <Jester45> o wel
[04:54] <BrendanM> Hey, does anyone know why Xarchiver won't work with .rar or .7z files?
[04:54] <Jester45> they arenot free
[04:54] <BrendanM> I have rar and 7zip installed, and I can extract both of them using their respective command line utilities
[04:55] <Sharn> BrendanM: What's the problem?
[04:55] <kalikiana> BrendanM, rar should work I believe, may your version be outdated?
[04:55] <BrendanM> I got it from the repos
[04:55] <Sharn> http://www.byethost.com/
[04:55] <Jester45> BrendanM: what rar tool did you use
[04:55] <Jester45> there are 2 of them
[04:55] <BrendanM> unrar
[04:55] <BrendanM> Xarchiver claims to support those formats, if you have utlities installed. It's like Xarchiver doesn't know where to look for them
[04:55] <Sharn> !rar
[04:55] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:56] <Sharn> Maybe?
[04:56] <kalikiana> It works via unrar for me...
[04:56] <BrendanM> yeah, I think I installed unrar-free
[04:56] <BrendanM> lemme check
[04:56] <Jester45> i got both
[04:56] <BrendanM> yeah, it works fine with unrar, it's just that Xarchiver doesn't do it. So I have to go into CLI every time
[04:57] <Jester45> make a command for it
[04:57] <Jester45> unrar e
[04:57] <BrendanM> yeah, it's just that Xarchiver claims to support those formats: http://xarchiver.xfce.org/features.php
[04:58] <BrendanM> So I'd like to try to make it do that
[04:58] <Sharn> Is it giving an error or anything?
[04:59] <BrendanM> "Sorry, this archive format is not supported:the proper archiver is not installed!"
[04:59] <BrendanM> except it totally is
[05:00] <BrendanM> Should I try reinstalling Xarchiver?
[05:01] <kalikiana> BrendanM, check the prefix of any custom install
[05:01] <kalikiana> unless everything is from the repos anyway
[05:03] <BrendanM> It's all from the repos. I think I just figured it out though. Installing the package "rar" made it work
[05:03] <BrendanM> previously, I only had "unrar-free" installed
[05:03] <BrendanM> That's too bad Xarchiver doesn't seem to work with the free version. They should fix that. Is there a config file for Xarchiver anywhere?
[05:07] <Sharn> Not sure...
[05:08] <Sharn> kalikiana: Why two accounts on? :P
[05:09] <kalikiana|mysql> Sharn, dsl reconnect :/
[05:13] <BrendanM> Does anyone here know how to close the X server without logging out? Ctrl+alt+bkspace only restarts it and takes me to the login screen.
[05:14] <Jester45> i dont think you can
[05:14] <Sharn> BrendanM: I'm pretty sure you can't - not positive, though.
[05:15] <Jester45> lol
[05:15] <Jester45> theres a guy online that uses torrents to store his files
[05:15] <Jester45> kinda risky
[05:16] <Sharn> How's that?
[05:16] <Jester45> seed that file
[05:16] <Jester45> then come back later and dl it
[05:16] <Sharn> That's really odd.
[05:17] <Jester45> unlimited space
[05:17] <Sharn> Meh
[05:19] <Jester45> oscartorrents.com
[05:20] <kalikiana|mysql> so let's hope he has no private or 'problematic' files...
[05:21] <kalikiana|mysql> but if he was living in future germany, he wouldn't have to bother.
[05:21] <Jester45> he is probly storing his movies
[05:21] <Sharn> Hey, bittorrent has an oficial Linux client...
[05:21] <Jester45> yep
[05:21] <Sharn> Anyone tried it?
[05:22] <Jester45> no
[05:22] <kalikiana|mysql> I'm using Deluge.
[05:22] <Sharn> I like deluge too. I'm gonna try the official, though...
[05:23] <Sharn> Nevermind, maybe not...
[05:24] <Jester45> its ugly] 
[05:25] <Sharn> Rofl
[05:25] <Sharn> So is DSL. :)
[05:27] <Sharn> It looks pretty nice to me, personally.
[05:29] <Sharn> Stupid Hydrogen...
[05:43] <BFTD> eh
[05:43] <BFTD> hi all
[05:44] <kalikiana|mysql> hi
[05:44] <kalikiana|mysql> what's up?
[05:44] <BFTD> oh nothin
[05:44] <Jester45> hi
[05:44] <BFTD> the bad thing about wireless mice, is that they get lost easily
[05:45] <kalikiana|mysql> *g
[05:45] <Sharn> Mine just kept dieing, so I'm using a corded one now. :P
[05:45] <kalikiana|mysql> I have a wired again because of the batteries.
[05:45] <Sharn> The wireless is heading to that laptop I'll hopefully be getting tomorrow...
[05:45] <Jester45> i have both
[05:45] <Sharn> I do too, Jester45...
[05:46] <kalikiana|mysql> And I'm using it in front of the monitor anyway. :P
[05:46] <Jester45> its fun to mess with people
[05:46] <Sharn> I have about 4 mice around the house. xD
[05:46] <Jester45> thats what i did
[05:46] <Jester45> i got wireless keyboard
[05:46] <Jester45> its embedded in my desk
[05:47] <Sharn> I don't.... :P
[05:48] <Sharn> I like my wireless mouse, but I see no reason for a keyboard. Optical is nice to have too.
[05:48] <Jester45> i see more a reason for keyboard than mouse
[05:48] <Jester45> i can type from 10ft away but i cant manuver the mouse from 4
[05:49] <Sharn> Mine did like 10 feet...
[05:50] <Sharn> My monitor is too small for that far back anyway. :P
[05:50] <Jester45> but i cant see it from there
[05:50] <BFTD> to much lag for wireless
[05:51] <Jester45> what 5ns?
[05:51] <Sharn> Mine never lagged either. Just freaked out. It was a little too sensitive too.
[06:14] <riceriot> khi
[06:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> khello
[06:16] <Sharn> Talking again. :O
[09:46] <gunny01> !ubotu beyrl
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beyrl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <grazie> !beryl | gunny01
[09:54] <ubotu> gunny01: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:58] <riceriot> khi
[09:59] <riceriot> anybody know how to access the gnome-power-manager tool?
[10:03] <riceriot> nm
[10:04] <sunnz2> Are you on 6.10 or??
[10:41] <gunny01> !ailx
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ailx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <gunny01> !flightgear | gunny01
[10:48] <agreif> I installed xubuntu 6.10 but the xfce desktop shown no icons. I have xfce 4.3.99. Is this feature only implemented in 4.4, or do I have to set a flag somewhere to show mounted volumes on the desktop?
[10:50] <gpocentek> agreif: you can't change that
[10:50] <gpocentek> err, mounted volumes should appear on the desktop actually
[10:51] <gpocentek> only home, FS and trash are now shown
[10:51] <agreif> yep, that is what I am missing
[10:51] <agreif> I see actually nochting on the desktop. Only icons in the panels
[10:52] <galorin> that's normal
[10:52] <gpocentek> s/now/not/ (sorry)
[10:53] <agreif> ok. which release will include the feature tro sshow icons on the desktop?
[10:53] <gpocentek> feisty with Xfce 4.4
[10:54] <agreif> thanks
[10:55] <grazie> agreif: Applications > Settings > Desktop Settings. Tick the 'Allow Xfce...' checkbox
[10:55] <grazie> agreif: it's a known bug
[10:56] <ny83> what is the command line instruction to remove a package and its dependencies?
[10:57] <agreif> aahhh, now I see all of them! thx
[10:57] <galorin> apt-get remove $PKGNAME && apt-get autoremove maybe?  not that up on apt really.
[10:57] <galorin> deborphan is useful too
[10:58] <galorin> oh, might make that apt-get remove --purge $PKGNAME
[10:58] <grazie> yes
[11:00] <agreif> where can I find a sample for a pyxfce plugin?
[11:03] <ny83> will that purge packages used by other programs?
[11:03] <ny83> dependencies sorry
[11:04] <ny83> i just used synaptic and selected mozilla-thunderbird for "complete removal" and a prompt window arises stating xubuntu-desktop must be removed
[11:07] <galorin> --purge removes configuration fies as well,
[11:07] <galorin> it's autorempve and deborphan that does the real magic.
[11:08] <galorin> xubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package, it can be safely removed after installation.
[11:10] <galorin> f you're on ubuntu or edubuntu, etc you can apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and get xubuntu installed, In theory.  It works pretty well.
[11:17] <ny83> thankyou galorin :-)
[11:21] <galorin> ta
[11:43] <test1> !restricted
[11:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:43] <leaphisto> !virus
[11:43] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:58] <BrendanM> Does anyone know if there's a piece of free software that'll let you fill out PDF forms? Or do I have to get the official Adobe reader?
[01:59] <Xemanth> whats da color of xubuntu? :)
[02:00] <Xemanth> blue kubuntu kde, brown ubuntu gnome
[02:41] <Ramla> I think it's also blue, but more win2k kinda blue than kde blue.
[03:27] <KayoDot> Hey guys. What's the command to stop the xserver in Xubuntu? I need to install my graphics card drivers :/
[03:28] <KayoDot> I know in Ubuntu it's sudo etc/init.d/gdm stop, but that doesn't seem to work in Xubuntu. Neither does xinetd stop, I keep getting the error sudo: /etc/init.d/xfce: command not found
[03:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[03:29] <KayoDot> I'm a little puzzled.
[03:47] <psb154> !nvidia
[03:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <cga> !duplex
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duplex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <cga> !audio
[03:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:23] <BFTD> whats nuubuntu?
[05:49] <Hub441> hi1
[05:49] <Hub441> did anyone manage to boot the xubuntu CD via network?
[05:52] <Hub441> well it boots, mounts the nfs-share an complains about wrong permissions for /var/lib/gdm/
[05:52] <Hub441> if i chroot on the nfs-server to the share, permissions are correct
[05:53] <Hub441> so, gdm doesn't start, and i have only a promt asking me for login. but i don't have any password
[05:53] <Hub441> ubuntu:<blank> doesnt work
[05:55] <Coder[] > Hello
[05:55] <Coder[] > I need Help
[05:55] <Coder[] > please help me
[05:56] <Coder[] > Please help me
[05:57] <Hub441> *g* help doing what? fixing wholes in your roof?
[05:57] <siucdude> i got a question
[05:58] <siucdude> I just installed xubuntu for a friend on his older dell laptop
[05:58] <siucdude> its got a pcmcia card that works on dapper version but
[05:58] <siucdude> i can't get it to load on edgy
[05:58] <Coder[] > I have 6800GS
[05:58] <Coder[] > And How i can run linux whith framebuffer
[05:59] <siucdude> it freezes at login everytime i put the card in before booting
[06:02] <siucdude> anyone
[06:13] <Buddha|> Is there any way to make the SmartBookmark panel plugin bigger?
[06:13] <Buddha|> Or is there another panel plugin for searching the web?
[06:14] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> hey
[06:14] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> someone here?
[06:15] <sdfdsfdsfsdfddfg> ...
[07:02] <nsg1sfubar> i would like to know if there is a starter guide for xubuntu
[07:06] <grazie> nsg1sfubar: this link should help https://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[07:09] <nsg1sfubar> thanks
[07:10] <grazie> np
[07:27] <yettenet> Hi there... I've just installed xubuntu (my first Unix-based operating system) and I really don't know anything about it... could you give me the link of a relatively fine "Idiot's guide to (x)Ubuntu" site?
[07:28] <grazie> yettenet:  this link should help https://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[07:28] <kalikiana> yettenet, https://help.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[07:28] <yettenet> grazie grazie :)
[07:28] <grazie> prego
[07:32] <faemir> can anyone tell me where to put themes for only one user to access?
[07:34] <grazie> faemir: ~/.themes
[07:37] <yettenet> LoL
[07:37] <yettenet> Faemir
[07:37] <yettenet> Here too :D
[07:37] <faemir> thanks grazie
[07:38] <faemir> hello yettenet 8-)
[07:40] <yettenet> :)
[07:59] <comradeC> hi, I'm trying to get a wireless card setup, but I need to know how to do this, the instructions say to  Unblacklist bcm34xx... what does that mean?
[08:09] <gabkdll1> comradeC: are you using edgy? in my /etc/modprobe.d/ the blacklist files don't blacklist bcm34xx anymore.
[08:12] <MattJ> Hey all
[08:23] <MattJ_laptop> rehi all :)
[08:44] <faemir> this sounds really stupid, but how can i take a screenshot in xubuntu?
[08:45] <gabkdll1> faemir: there is a screenshot panel item
[08:45] <faemir> ... where?
[08:45] <faemir> oh right
[08:45] <faemir> sorry xD
[08:46] <grazie> faemir: also with the gimp...File > Acquire > Screenshot (it's more flexible)
[08:54] <drx0drx> I was instructed by a post to download & install OpenLDAP-devel and i see that the tar creates a /usr/... structure, so i just did mv ./usr/ /usr   is that right?
[08:54] <drx0drx> actuall mv ./usr /usr
[08:55] <nicolah> what does "honor the standard ICCCM focus hint" mean ?
[08:55] <nicolah> in window manager tweaks
[08:59] <Blaise> hello everyone
[08:59] <drx0drx> hello
[09:00] <drx0drx> what is the syntax to mv a subdirectory to a parent of the same name?
[09:00] <Blaise> I'm getting Segmentation Faults when I try and load Firefox, (this also happens from the liveCD), does anyone know how I can get Firefox up and running?
[09:05] <psb154> drx0drx, if you use the full-path of both the source and destination that should work 8-)
[09:11] <psb154> Blaise, you could try a:    sudo apt-get check    this will check whether you have any 'broken dependencies'.
[09:15] <drx0drx> psb154, Thanks! (Yes!)
[09:16] <psb154> drx0drx no problem :-)
[09:16] <rmd_> ok, so i did a sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop... and it installed everything, but ubuntu is still loading with all the gnome stuffs.  is there something i need to change?
[09:17] <drx0drx> psb154, how do you remove an empty directory?
[09:17] <rmd_> drx0drx: rmdir
[09:17] <rmd_> to remove a full directory, rm -rf
[09:17] <psb154> drx0drx,   rm -fr dirName
[09:18] <drx0drx> psb154, thanks again!  (say, is this what you do when you unpack a tar with a /usr tree in it, you just mv it into /usr ?
[09:18] <grazie> Blaise: pretty sure you've got memory problems. run the memtestx86 on the live cd
[09:18] <psb154> rmd_, when you log on you have to change to your 'Session settings' to xfce.
[09:19] <Blaise> Grazie
[09:19] <Blaise> something strange is happening
[09:19] <psb154> drxodrx, to unpack a tar type:   tar xvf tarFileName
[09:19] <psb154> drx0drx, to unpack a tar type:   tar xvf tarFileName
[09:19] <Blaise> A friernd sent me a link in a IM window, I clicked it and it opened in Opera
[09:19] <Blaise> and Opera is working ok
[09:20] <drx0drx> psb154, I know, I was just wondering if when you DO unpack a tar and it has a /usr/... tree in it if the correct thing to do was to mv it into /usr
[09:20] <psb154> drx0drx, so this is a backup of /usr directory ?
[09:21] <drx0drx> It's OpenLDAP-devel
[09:21] <rmd_> you are amazing
[09:21] <grazie> yes...still think you've got memory problems...it'll probably fall over if you open lots of tabs...run the test
[09:22] <Blaise> ok
[09:22] <Blaise> if I do have memory problems, what can I do about them?
[09:23] <Blaise> (It fell over when to a flash site)
[09:24] <psb154> drx0drx, the contents of the tar file will be extracted in the same parent directory you xvf it, you prolly know that. Then you can copy the desired files from the extracted directory to your proper /usr/ directory.
[09:24] <drx0drx> psb154, proper?
[09:26] <psb154> drx0drx, the one in at root. if you: cd /    then: ls    you will see /usr   that is your proper /usr directory.
[09:26] <grazie> Blaise: isolate the bad sim and replace
[09:26] <drx0drx> psb154, I noticed many of the subdirs had the same names as subdirs in /usr, so i just mv .../usr/include to /usr/include, e.g.
[09:27] <psb154> drx0drx, that makes sense to me but I am not exactly certain of what you are trying to atchieve 8-)
[09:28] <psb154> drx0drx I would do a: cp    rather than a: mv   and you would: cp -fr   in order to copy subdirectories.
[09:29] <drx0drx> psb154, I'm trying to install Evolution-Exchange, and I keep getting an error when I ./configure it, and an article said to get two packages including the aforementioned, so I did, and I built the first one and mv the second one, but it still doesn't work
[09:30] <drx0drx> Is there a ./configure log that might tell me what else I need?
[09:31] <psb154> drx0drx, dude!! 8-) you could do a:  sudo apt-get install evolution-exchange
[09:31] <drx0drx> psb154, didn't work
[09:33] <psb154> drx0drx, try: sudo apt-get -f    this will fix broken dependencies. What was the error message when you tryied to get evolution-exchange via apt-get?
[09:34] <drx0drx> psb154, i can't use it b/c the machine with the internet access is not the machine with the Evolution
[09:35] <psb154> drx0drx, can you temporarily connect the computer to the internet?
[09:35] <drx0drx> nope
[09:36] <drx0drx> psb154, anyway, I already have Evo-Exch source, it just won't build
[09:37] <psb154> drx0drx, have you install build-essentials? ... hang on if you can't get internet access you wont be able to install them.
[09:39] <psb154> drx0drx, from the CD ubuntu based distros don't have all the stuff you need to build applications as you are seeing.
[09:40] <drx0drx> psb154, I don't know what an "Evolution Development library" is
[09:41] <psb154> drx0drx, that would be: evolution-dev    (prolly)
[09:42] <psb154> brb
[09:47] <grazie> drx0drx: are you building this on *ubuntu?
[09:53] <drx0drx> grazie, on ubuntu 6.10 and also on mac OS X 10.4.8
[09:54] <grazie> drx0drx: why don't you just get the .debs (for ubuntu)?
[09:55] <drx0drx> grazie, because I need it on both and i'm not sure evolution-exchange dev exists
[09:56] <grazie> drx0drx: check at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:57] <grazie> grazie: if you're using the .debs you will not need the -dev package
[09:59] <grazie> drx0drx: you only usually need -dev package if you wan to develop the source code
[10:00] <drx0drx> grazie, i meant to say .deb
[10:01] <grazie> tis a big difference :)
[10:02] <Sharn> Anyone run Xubuntu on a P2?
[10:02] <grazie> drx0drx: you setting up a mail server?
[10:02] <drx0drx> grazie, no
[10:03] <grumpymole> Sharn: i am typing this on a Thinkpad 600e (PII 400)
[10:04] <drx0drx> so I ran ./configure on another program and it built without errors, but when I type make it says "make: *** No targes specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[10:04] <Sharn> Hmmmm. Ok. I'm getting an old company laptop... all I know is it's gonna be a PII... Don't even know if it will be over 300Mhz. Any chance it could be upgraded to a 400?
[10:04] <grazie> drx0drx: you're in the wrong directory
[10:05] <drx0drx> grazie, where am i supposed to be?
[10:05] <psb154> lol
[10:06] <grazie> drx0drx: i'm not telepathic
[10:06] <grumpymole> Sharn: depends on the laptop, but it might be a lot of effort
[10:06] <drx0drx> grazie, how do i go about finding it (the INSTALL file just says run make)
[10:06] <Sharn> Meh. I've taken apart my fair share of computers.. I'm more concerned about bus speeds.
[10:07] <grazie> drx0drx: you could have unpacked the tar badly too
[10:07] <drx0drx> grazie, i don't think so, because the ./configure worked and you just double click the file
[10:08] <Sharn> And it's an "Ashton Digital", a much older one that you can't even find on the internet. :P
[10:08] <Sharn> Oh well. Thanks.
[10:09] <grazie> drx0drx: the error tells you what's wrong..you have to look a bit
[10:09] <drx0drx> grazie, what i typed is all it says
[10:10] <grumpymole> Sharn_Away: sorry, got distracted by my 3-year-old
[10:12] <grazie> drx0drx: did you double click on the package archive?
[10:13] <drx0drx> yes, and it said "unpacking package archive xyz"
[10:13] <grazie> grazie: then you've not unpacked it correctly
[10:14] <grazie> drx0drx: I thought someone gave you instructions for tar?
[10:14] <drx0drx> grazie, it creates a folder called evolution-data-server-1.8.2 2
[10:15] <drx0drx> then I go there and type ./configure and it builds
[10:16] <grazie> drx0drx: you're not listening :(
[10:17] <drx0drx> grazie, i found the problem, it actually fails and says "XML::Parser perl module is reuired for intltool"
[10:17] <drx0drx> grazie, is there an option to have it go out and get these dependecies automatically?
[10:24] <grazie> drx0drx: yes, it's called apt-get :)
[10:24] <Sharn_Away> drx0drx: Just open synaptic and looks for the package...
[10:24] <drx0drx> grazie, that's great for Ubuntu, but not for OS X
[10:27] <psb154> drxOdrx try an OSX irc channel for OSX questions.
[10:31] <cyberyak> does xmms play the windows .asx playlist files?
[10:32] <cyberyak> or maybe the better question, "What do I need to install to play streaming music from an .asx file?"
[10:32] <cyberyak> as in http://zradio.org/rock-128s.asx
[10:32] <drx0drx> psb154, I'm installing on both
[10:33] <Sharn_Away> drx0drx: Are the errors FROM Xubuntu? Or are your errors from OSX?
[10:33] <drx0drx> Sharn_Away, both give me the same
[10:34] <Sharn_Away> Get them working on Ubuntu, then go and find substitutes for OSX
[10:35] <Sharn_Away> http://search.cpan.org/dist/XML-Parser/
[10:35] <Sharn_Away> There you go.
[10:35] <Sharn_Away> There's a download link to the right of This Release:
[10:37] <grazie> cyberyak: you'd find it easier to play the real stream :(
[10:40] <cyberyak> hrm
[10:41] <maxamillion> cyberyak: you might just need some windows codecs .... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[10:45] <cyberyak> thanks!  I'll try that and see if I'm missing something.  that and VLC should probably get me there.
[10:47] <cyberyak> well, back to work.
[10:48] <cyberyak> I found my RESUME!
[11:27] <rippawallet> !grub
[11:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:28] <rippawallet> Sharn_Away: lolsup
[11:39] <rippawallet> hey
[11:39] <rippawallet> can i get some help with grub please
[11:39] <rippawallet> and dont do !grub
[11:39] <rippawallet> it didnt work
[11:39] <rippawallet> the instructions didnt
[11:39] <SJ8> !grub
[11:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:39] <rippawallet> first link is the best
[11:39] <rippawallet> :>
[11:39] <SJ8> thx
[11:42] <rippawallet> np
[11:43] <arrenlex> What are my options for getting a wireless configuration utility without installing 30-40 gnome or kde libs?
[11:46] <Sharn_Away> Oh, hey rippawallet.
[11:47] <Sharn> Just got the coolest version of Windows. :P
[11:49] <Sharn> ThreePointOne. ^_^
[11:50] <rippawallet> 3.1
[11:50] <rippawallet> :S?
[11:50] <Sharn> Yeah. xD
[11:51] <Sharn> My mom's friend had the floppys layuing around. She gave them to me. ^_^
[11:52] <grazie> Sharn: I hope she paid you too! :)
[11:53] <rippawallet> Sharn: how old are you?
[11:53] <rippawallet> :)?
[11:53] <arrenlex> We have windows 3.1 on our old computer.
[11:54] <arrenlex> It dualboots winth w95.
[11:54] <Sharn> 15. xD
[11:54] <rippawallet> D:
[11:54] <Sharn> Sweet. Good start on open-source software. :)
[11:54] <rippawallet> :D
[11:55] <rippawallet> Indeedy.
[11:56] <rippawallet> VMware
[11:56] <rippawallet> leet
[11:56] <rippawallet> lol
[11:56] <Sharn> Yeah. :)
[11:56] <rippawallet> VMware hates me
[11:56] <rippawallet> >_>
[11:57] <rippawallet> lol
[11:57] <rippawallet> well
[11:57] <rippawallet> actually
[11:58] <michaelpo> i've installed a few packages... now i can play dvd... but not vcd... did i miss out any packages?
[11:58] <rippawallet> Sharn: what distro you on?
[11:59] <rippawallet> i cant ctcp as im on the liveCD
[11:59] <rippawallet> trying to fix grub
[11:59] <rippawallet> :P
[12:01] <Sharn> Ouch, what's the problem?
[12:02] <Sharn> And I'm on Ubuntu... running xubuntu-desktop.
[12:02] <rippawallet> many thingds
[12:02] <rippawallet> :(
[12:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michaelpo: Which media player are you using?
[12:02] <michaelpo> totem and mplayer
[12:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[12:03] <Sharn> Did you ever back it up?
[12:05] <Sharn> Oh Noes. I think the discs are bad. =\
[12:06] <grazie> michaelpo: easyubuntu is a good tool for adding codecs, etc and letting you know what's already installed
[12:07] <grazie> !easyubuntu | michaelpo
[12:07] <ubotu> michaelpo: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:07] <michaelpo> grazie: i dont remember how many.... i know libdvdcss, is there a libxine?
[12:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah.  There's libxine and libxine-extracodecs.
[12:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Those two should let you play vcds in totem, assuming you're running totem-xine.
[12:09] <michaelpo> PuMpErNiCkLe: yes i checked my synaptic... yes i have both libxine and extracodecs...
[12:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> But are you using totem-xine?
[12:11] <michaelpo> i'm using libxine
[12:11] <michaelpo> i searched for vcd in synaptic... i dont have vlc installed... does that play vcd?
[12:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah.
[12:11] <michaelpo> totem and mplayer dont support vcd?
[12:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Having libxine installed doesn't necessarily mean you're using it.  Totem can use either gstreamer or xine, depending on whether you have totem-gstreamer or totem-xine installed.
[12:13] <michaelpo> which plays vcd? gstreamer or xine?
[12:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Both.
[12:14] <michaelpo> why in synaptics, some packages has the ubuntu logo, some does not?
[12:15] <michaelpo> in the 2nd column
[12:21] <michaelpo> thanks... i gtg get ready for work in 20 mins... thanks...