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| kgoetz | i want to execute a script on logout. gdm has /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default, but is that file read by ltsp? i'm under the impression the ltsp stuff uses ldm (or something) | 12:54 |
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| kgoetz | i ask because i want to remove a users home directory when they log out, and recreate it (its a public account) | 12:55 |
| cstextiles | Can we start vino-server for all the users by default? | 12:57 |
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| Burgwork | kgoetz: sbalneavs was working on a pam method for doing that | 01:24 |
| kgoetz | Burgwork: mmm ok. so that means 'it will be in future releases'? | 01:32 |
| Burgwork | no idea, given FF has passed | 01:32 |
| Burgwork | ask scott for the latest source code | 01:33 |
| kgoetz | right. i'll keep looking then. i'm after something that will work for dapper now ;) | 01:34 |
| Burgwork | a script will do it | 01:35 |
| Burgwork | I have no idea about how ldm runs hooks | 01:35 |
| Burgwork | ogra: ^ ? | 01:35 |
| kgoetz | hm. meeting starting. bbl | 01:36 |
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| kgoetz | um.... i just noticed ldm isnt installed. is it not a dependancy of ltsp-server? | 02:40 |
| kgoetz | or is it only installed on the client? | 02:40 |
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| kgoetz | aoh, only on client. sorry :| | 02:41 |
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| pisi_de | ping ogra | 12:19 |
| ogra | pisi_de, pong ? | 12:19 |
| pisi_de | juliux here | 12:19 |
| pisi_de | we have a sun ultra 60 and are trying to buld ltsp-client i386 on that machine | 12:20 |
| pisi_de | but it is still tryiong to build the sparc version, too | 12:20 |
| pisi_de | we tried "--arch i386" | 12:21 |
| ogra | i never tested on sparc ... | 12:21 |
| pisi_de | ist there any config file for ltsp-build-client script? | 12:22 |
| ogra | but the arch code is built so that is will only build i386 on i386 or amd64 hw ... | 12:22 |
| ogra | there is stuff that needs to be executed in the chroot ... so you need a compatible arch | 12:22 |
| ogra | i have a tarball with an edgy chroot ... | 12:23 |
| ogra | if that helps ... | 12:23 |
| pisi_de | also building on another machine and copying onto the sun? | 12:23 |
| ogra | you need to unpack it to /opt/ltsp/i386 and run the two ltsp-update-* commands (untested) | 12:23 |
| pisi_de | ok | 12:24 |
| ogra | indeed, you could also build from an i386 that you run from a liveCd, mount /opt/ltsp readwrite via nfs from the server and run ltsp-build-client there | 12:24 |
| ogra | afterwards you always need to run the ltsp-update-* scripts ... | 12:25 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ltsp-tarball-20060211.tgz | 12:25 |
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| juliux_ | ogra, my idea was to copy the ltsp chroot from my notebook via scp to the sun and then run ltsp-update | 12:27 |
| ogra | that might work too | 12:27 |
| juliux_ | ok, we will test it;9 | 12:27 |
| juliux_ | ogra, and pls mail me your postaddresse;) | 12:27 |
| ogra | oh, crap, i forgot, sorry | 12:27 |
| juliux_ | don t worrie it is not to late;) | 12:28 |
| juliux_ | ogra, should i use the postaddress from your domain? | 12:31 |
| ogra | heh, no | 12:32 |
| juliux_ | hehe | 12:32 |
| ogra | sent | 12:33 |
| juliux_ | thxs | 12:38 |
| juliux_ | ogra, is there any thing we should test next weekend? | 12:41 |
| juliux_ | ogra, we have a lot of clients and different hardware there, and a lot of time;) | 12:41 |
| ogra | test herd4 :) | 12:48 |
| ogra | and the addon CD :) | 12:49 |
| juliux_ | ok | 12:50 |
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| rodarvus | good morning | 01:18 |
| juliux_ | hi rodarvus | 01:19 |
| juliux_ | rodarvus, did you tested ltsp5 on sparc? | 01:20 |
| rodarvus | hey juliux_ | 01:20 |
| rodarvus | I don't have sparc at home, unfortunately | 01:20 |
| juliux_ | hehe | 01:20 |
| rodarvus | (I used to, a few years ago, though) | 01:20 |
| rodarvus | but the machines I had aged quite quickly, and I just gave them to someone else | 01:21 |
| rodarvus | (they use *a lot* of electric power, too) | 01:21 |
| juliux_ | ok | 01:21 |
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| juliux_ | ogra, we get an x on the thinclient;) | 01:31 |
| juliux_ | ogra, but then the networkcard in the sun get a problem:( | 01:31 |
| ogra | what kind of problem ? | 01:36 |
| pisi_de | maybe a faulty network card | 01:36 |
| juliux_ | it is a hardware problem | 01:36 |
| pisi_de | trying other device | 01:36 |
| juliux_ | ogra, but the ltsp was working | 01:37 |
| ogra | yay | 01:37 |
| juliux_ | after we fixed the nfs export;) | 01:37 |
| ogra | fixed ? | 01:38 |
| juliux_ | yes there was no entry in the /etc/exports | 01:38 |
| ogra | oh, right, ltsp-build-client sets the /etc/exports entry | 01:38 |
| juliux_ | i copied the entry from my notebook and the the ltsp starts and we get an ldm login at the thinclient | 01:39 |
| ogra | great | 01:40 |
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| juliux_ | ogra, now it is working;) | 01:51 |
| ogra | yay | 01:51 |
| ogra | using your chroot ? or the tarball ? | 01:52 |
| juliux_ | yes my chroot | 01:52 |
| juliux_ | where is the difference to your tarball? | 01:57 |
| ogra | there shouldnt be one | 02:02 |
| juliux_ | ok | 02:02 |
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| juliux_ | ogra, if we log in on the thinclient, x died and we get the ldm login screen again | 02:07 |
| pisi_de | by using metacity session instead of default gnome session we get only a black backround with white mouse, no menu. but X does not die | 02:15 |
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| juliux_ | ogra, it is possible to start only a xterm on the thinclient and not a whole gnome desktop? | 02:25 |
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| ogra | create an ~/.xsession :) | 02:32 |
| ogra | but first check in ~/.xsession-errors why the gnome session dies | 02:33 |
| pisi_de | .Xsession creaed | 02:33 |
| pisi_de | created | 02:33 |
| pisi_de | gnome-screensaver caused dead and restart of X server | 02:34 |
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| ogra | strange | 02:37 |
| ogra | do the sessions work locally on the server ? | 02:38 |
| juliux_ | yes on the sun is gnome working well | 02:38 |
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| juliux_ | ogra, that is the http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7534/ xession-erros file | 02:42 |
| ogra | what makes you think its gnome-screensaver ? | 02:48 |
| pisi_de | starting only xterm | 02:49 |
| pisi_de | and after that te screensaver kills x | 02:50 |
| ogra | ?? | 02:50 |
| pisi_de | starting X with only xterm. then starting metacity, gnome-panel and gnome-screensaver in this order from the xterm | 02:50 |
| pisi_de | maybe the screensaver ist not the only application causing this problem, but it ist one of them | 02:51 |
| ogra | how is gnome-screensaver supposed to run without session dbus ? | 02:51 |
| juliux_ | ahh | 02:52 |
| ogra | you need to run the complete session to test it ... | 02:52 |
| ogra | which is a bit tricky, since if you have an ~/.xsession file that will override all other sessions if you just execute /etc/X11/Xsession | 02:53 |
| juliux_ | ok | 02:53 |
| juliux_ | so we should try to start every thing listed in /etc/X11/Xsession | 02:54 |
| ogra | well, it sources a lot of stuff from /etc/X11/Xsession.d | 02:54 |
| juliux_ | i see | 02:55 |
| ogra | probably install xfce, then you can log in to that (it will show up in the session selector after installing it) | 02:55 |
| juliux_ | thxs | 02:55 |
| ogra | select it, open an xterm there and try to run /etc/X11/Xsession ... (gnome will complain about a window manager running already) | 02:55 |
| ogra | oh, i mean xfwm above | 02:55 |
| ogra | not xfce, no need for the whole desktop | 02:56 |
| juliux_ | we will try that;) | 02:57 |
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| juliux_ | ogra, xfwm fvwm are booth not running, but fluxbox is running;) | 03:13 |
| juliux_ | ogra, it is a gnome problem;) | 03:15 |
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| VincentMX | hi | 03:20 |
| VincentMX | where can i get any dutch Kanagram language packs? | 03:20 |
| juliux_ | VincentMX, it should be a part of the ducht kde language pack | 03:24 |
| VincentMX | juliux_: ok | 03:32 |
| VincentMX | some parts of kde programs are in english | 03:33 |
| VincentMX | i need to down some vocabularies for Kanagram and KHangman | 03:33 |
| VincentMX | does anybody know, where i can get those? | 03:39 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:04 |
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| nixternal | I should be connecting right around 20:00 UTC for today/tonight's meeting :) | 04:29 |
| nixternal | I will be chillin' in the school cafe | 04:29 |
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| Spec | Is anyone here going to UbuCon? | 06:46 |
| Spec | well, at any rate, i am...and i was asked to do a presentation/demo of edubuntu, any chance anyone here has any materials that would be useful presentation-wise? | 06:51 |
| Spec | also, can anyone point me to a list of changes edubuntu makes to standard-ltsp? | 06:52 |
| highvoltage | Spec: from LTSP version 5, Ubuntu's LTSP = LTSP.org | 06:53 |
| Spec | meh, i haven't used ltsp since...3? maybe 4 | 06:54 |
| Spec | does it still use tftp? | 06:54 |
| highvoltage | it does indeed | 06:54 |
| highvoltage | just to download the initial kernel though | 06:54 |
| Spec | yeap | 06:55 |
| Spec | i thought edubuntu was trying to implement security w/ ltsp? | 06:55 |
| highvoltage | it does | 06:55 |
| Spec | in which ways has it changed since....two years ago? :P (if the list isn't too long) | 06:56 |
| highvoltage | hardware detection has greatly improved, it now uses debian's hardware detection scripts | 06:56 |
| highvoltage | it uses ssh to export the GUI now, instead of XDMCP | 06:56 |
| Spec | ah | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | that's a big security boost | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | lots of extras have been added | 06:57 |
| Spec | does it put applications on the thinclients? | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | sound is getting better on clients | 06:57 |
| Spec | ie: firefox | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | usb flash disks now automount on client | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | in the next version it would be possible | 06:57 |
| Spec | sound has worked for years (for me), maybe i'm lucky | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | it has a dounside though | 06:57 |
| Spec | what's it called to put an app on a thinclient? | 06:57 |
| highvoltage | you can only currenly run all apps localy, or from the server | 06:58 |
| highvoltage | not a mixture of the two | 06:58 |
| highvoltage | (but still diskless) | 06:58 |
| Spec | yeah | 06:58 |
| Spec | so either all or nothing? | 06:58 |
| juliux | hi highvoltage | 06:58 |
| highvoltage | hi juliux | 06:58 |
| juliux | highvoltage, did you have the drupal theme tar allready done? | 06:58 |
| highvoltage | I have, can I email it to you? | 06:58 |
| juliux | highvoltage, yes you can | 06:59 |
| Spec | how easy is it to 'rebrand' edubuntu? | 07:00 |
| highvoltage | quite easy | 07:00 |
| Spec | as simple as making a theme or is there a script for rebranding and/or a how-to? | 07:00 |
| highvoltage | there's a how-to on remastering ubuntu CD's | 07:01 |
| Spec | ah, so it all applies to edubuntu just the same | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | besides that you just have to make new usplash, gdm themes, etx | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | yep | 07:01 |
| Spec | there's another track on that i believe, so i'll only briefly mention it | 07:01 |
| highvoltage | juliux: emailed. sorry, meant to send it sooner already. | 07:02 |
| Spec | i wonder if i should make a oopresentation or not | 07:02 |
| juliux | highvoltage, it is ok | 07:02 |
| juliux | highvoltage, i had no time yet to use it;) | 07:03 |
| highvoltage | :) | 07:03 |
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| highvoltage | edubuntugirl: please behave yourself this time | 07:10 |
| edubuntugirl | <sad face> ok </sad face> | 07:10 |
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| LaserJock | ajmitch: btw, I got my GTK/C++ stuff to work out last night | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | I'm sort of suprised it worked | 08:39 |
| ajmitch | well done :) | 08:44 |
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| ogra | ******** Reminder * Edubuntu meeitng in #ubuntu-meeting in 13 minutes ********** | 08:48 |
| LaserJock | oh geeze, I forgot | 08:50 |
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| ogra | ******** Reminder * Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 4 minutes ********** | 08:56 |
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| ogra | ******** Reminder * Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting starting now ********** | 09:00 |
| willvdl | woop | 09:00 |
| willvdl | timing :) | 09:00 |
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| nixternal | so it looks like it was a good meeting | 10:22 |
| nixternal | one of these days I will go for some Edubuntu membershiip (yes I know once you have one they are all the same, but it is the feeling of pride being on that great list) | 10:22 |
| willvdl | come to Seville | 10:25 |
| nixternal | sure, like the commercials says... | 10:26 |
| nixternal | Got Money? | 10:26 |
| nixternal | ;p | 10:26 |
| juliux | willvdl, is there any sponsorships for sevilla? | 10:26 |
| willvdl | probably | 10:28 |
| === juliux has also a finance problem;) | ||
| === willvdl has seen a euro once and dreams of one day owning one | ||
| juliux | willvdl, should we send you one euro ? | 10:31 |
| ogra | heh | 10:31 |
| nixternal | when is Seville? | 10:32 |
| nixternal | I am to lazy to look it up on the wiki :) | 10:32 |
| willvdl | beginning May | 10:32 |
| ogra | UES is may 3 and 4 | 10:33 |
| ogra | UDS starts on the 6th iirc | 10:33 |
| nixternal | man, it has to always been when school is in session | 10:33 |
| juliux | 5 may is community day | 10:33 |
| nixternal | do one in Chicago already :) | 10:34 |
| juliux | beginning of may is not a good time to travel from germany to spain | 10:34 |
| nixternal | heh, by the time one gets done in Chicago, I will be living in either Europe (Greece or Spain) or Mexico (beach or, umm beach) | 10:34 |
| nixternal | juliux: walk :) | 10:34 |
| nixternal | stick the thumb out and hitch a ride | 10:35 |
| juliux | nixternal, the first may is free in germany so many people take three days off and then they have 6 six days for holiday | 10:35 |
| nixternal | man, I am moving to Germany then :) | 10:35 |
| willvdl | juliux so come end of April | 10:35 |
| nixternal | I need to either live on the beach, or a nice small villa | 10:35 |
| juliux | willvdl, lol | 10:36 |
| nixternal | both must indeed have high-speed though | 10:36 |
| juliux | nixternal, ok you come to germany and we will work to sevilla;) | 10:36 |
| juliux | willvdl, what should i do the days in spain? | 10:36 |
| willvdl | it's downhill, you could skate there | 10:36 |
| nixternal | man, I had a hell of a time flying to Canada a few months back because my name is on the list of terrorists or whatever it is | 10:36 |
| nixternal | stupid government | 10:36 |
| nixternal | how many Rich Johnsons have been accused of being a terrorist | 10:37 |
| willvdl | one? | 10:37 |
| nixternal | I have one of the most common names in the world | 10:37 |
| nixternal | willvdl: haha, I wonder what my dad has been hiding :) | 10:37 |
| ogra | i bet there are more john smitht's | 10:37 |
| nixternal | ogra: oh that is a fact | 10:37 |
| ogra | :) | 10:37 |
| nixternal | I just met a John Smithe today, he spells his name with the e at the end | 10:37 |
| willvdl | Qaryn Smythe : Karen Smith | 10:38 |
| willvdl | righteous | 10:38 |
| nixternal | heh | 10:39 |
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| willvdl | OK, nearly midnight. I need to go and pretend to my GF that nothing happened | 10:39 |
| willvdl | the village folk do talk so | 10:39 |
| nixternal | hehe | 10:40 |
| nixternal | g'nite, I need to get to class anyways | 10:40 |
| willvdl | I really think you should all join the Flat Earth Society and then I can keep normal office hours | 10:40 |
| willvdl | ciao | 10:41 |
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| juliux | omg the cheapest flyight from dresden to sevilla and back is 270 | 10:41 |
| juliux | and i need 5h | 10:41 |
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| Spec | where's the logs for this channel? | 10:59 |
| Spec | nevermind, found 'em | 11:01 |
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