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tuxdevilhallo all, hab da ma ne frage12:15
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Dr_willisSoup De Joure, :)12:15
epimethhot or cold, yes we only live to serve!12:15
Dr_willisMy sister married a French Chef12:15
tuxdevilhello all i have asks between napster12:16
epimethso he made the cake?12:16
epimeth:-p12:16
Dr_willisYes - he made his own wedding cake.12:16
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Dr_willisStrawberry with Peach Schnnaps in the iceing..12:16
Dr_willisdang thing was almost flameable.12:16
epimethI was talking about the one you just took out of the oven... but that works, too12:17
Dr_willisI made that cake. :)12:17
solidsourceeasy question: what would be the reasons to upgrade to feisty at the current time?12:17
Dr_willissolidsource,  no reason at all.. unless you want to test it out.12:17
epimethactually... I don't think peach schnapps has enough of an alcohol content to be flammable12:17
tuxdevilok great helpsee ya :-((12:18
epimethtux:12:18
epimethwhat's the question?12:18
epimethright12:18
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epimethwe're better of w/o him, anyway12:18
epimeth:-)12:18
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michaelpo why in synaptics, some packages has the ubuntu logo in the 2nd column, some does not?12:19
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Dr_willis------> <tuxdevil> hello all i have asks between napster                  (That was a question?)12:19
juano__when will KDE 4 be available in the repos ?12:19
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epimethwhats with the linux-restricted-modules and why is it being kept back?12:19
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Dr_willismichaelpo,  some may be from the official ubuntur repos?12:19
Dr_willisjuano__, when its done... :)12:20
Dr_willisjuano__,  which looke like December...12:20
juano__Dr_willis: hehe ah ok12:20
michaelpothanks... i gtg get ready for work in 20 mins... thanks...12:21
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Dr_willisi called in today.. :)12:23
Dr_willissnow day!12:23
epimethbesides beryl, is there any good reason to switch from dapper to edgy?12:24
epimethand again, whats with the linux-restricted-modules and why is it being kept back?12:25
epimethand what does /away do?12:25
epimethand did I mention I miss snow?12:26
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epimethmore specifically, snow capped mountains that can be skied upon?12:26
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epimethdoc?12:28
epimethbrb... shutting down the laptop12:29
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epimethactually... I just took a peek at edgyknownproblems... no way I'm updating yet12:32
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epimethand I'm talking to myself...12:32
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BluesKajepimeth, what probs are you referring to ?12:35
epimethwhat made me decide "absolutely not" was that OpenOffice crashes in KDE when an image is selected12:36
epimethbut that was just the proverbial icing on the cake12:36
epimeththere seem to be more than enough excuses not to upgrade but only one that screams "DO IT NOW!!!"12:37
epimethberyl12:37
epimethoooohhhhh beryl12:37
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BluesKajbah humbug ..eyecandy12:38
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BluesKajwant eye candy, get vista :)12:39
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unix_infidelheh, even WHEN i run vista i'll probably be in windows classic mode :P12:39
hattawhen?  you *are* an infidel12:41
unix_infidelhatta: actually i run bsd and os x more than anything now a days.12:42
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Dr_willisif installing Fiesty be VEVY VERY VERY carefull as to what drive you are installing to..  the new kernel/features  made my IDE controller drives show up as "sda/sdb/sdc and so on"12:42
DummyThatKnowsNaCan someone please help me with this webserver thingy12:42
unix_infidelor rather bsd derivatives.12:42
Dr_willisi almost installed to the wrong drive.. :)12:42
Dr_williswhich would of been a bummer.12:42
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epimeth!lamp12:43
unix_infidelDr_willis: that's standard to the new kernel :)12:43
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:43
epimethDummy: ^12:43
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DummyThatKnowsNapeople keep saying that but it does not work12:43
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epimethwhats the problem?12:43
DummyThatKnowsNaeverything12:43
Dr_willisunix_infidel,  but the non-ide controller drives showed up as hda . so im not sure what the deal is.. but then the live cd installer crashed.. so i gave up for now.12:43
epimethlol12:43
epimethokay... what have you done?12:43
DummyThatKnowsNaI tried following this thing step by step and I am not using Dapper12:44
epimethis it just me, or does "Open" in KTorrent not work?12:44
epimethDummy: what are you using?12:44
DummyThatKnowsNaKubuntu12:44
DummyThatKnowsNaedgy12:44
epimethokay12:44
unix_infidelDr_willis: yea, i've been seeing lots of problems with anything dapper+12:44
unix_infidelso until they dramatically fix things with feisty...i'm sticking to dapper or using debian :)12:45
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Admiral_Chicagoi've never had a problem, but that's offtopic12:45
epimethDummy: lets do this nice and slow12:45
DummyThatKnowsNaok12:45
om3gaim on 6.10 now seems ok12:45
epimethDummy: do you want to install using the command line or Adept?12:46
DummyThatKnowsNaI prefer the command line that way I can learn12:46
epimethgood :-)12:46
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epimethso open a terminal window and type the following:12:46
DummyThatKnowsNaok12:47
epimethsudo apt-get install Apache212:47
Dr_willis!find apache212:47
ubotuFound: apache2, apache2-common, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 52 others)12:47
epimethlol12:47
epimethsudo apt-get install apache212:47
DummyThatKnowsNaok it is already installed I guess12:47
epimethmy bad :-p12:47
Dr_willisyea - i think its case senestive. :)12:47
epimethnow type the following:12:47
epimethsudo /etc/init.d/Apache2 restart12:48
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epimeththis time I *know* its in caps!12:48
DummyThatKnowsNacould not determine the servers fully qualified domain name12:48
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epimethhold up.. I'll install it on my system, too12:49
DummyThatKnowsNaok12:49
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epimethdoes it say "using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName", too?12:53
DummyThatKnowsNayes12:53
epimethgood12:53
DummyThatKnowsNaand now my firefox does not open12:53
epimethopen up your favorite web browser12:53
DummyThatKnowsNaI tried12:53
epimeth(I've always wanted to say that :-))12:53
DummyThatKnowsNafirefox will not open12:53
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epimethah12:53
epimethso try konqueror12:54
DummyThatKnowsNanope12:54
DummyThatKnowsNait just closes out12:54
epimeththat is...odd... to say the least12:54
epimethhave you done an apt-get upgrade recently?12:54
DummyThatKnowsNayes12:54
DummyThatKnowsNajust about an hour ago12:54
epimethtry resetting your machine.  I'll still be here12:55
DummyThatKnowsNaIt is on a machine right next to me so I will not be going anywhere12:55
DummyThatKnowsNalol12:55
epimethheh12:55
epimeththat works too12:55
epimethso now I'll ask some general questions...12:55
DummyThatKnowsNaok12:55
epimethwhat do you want a web server for?12:55
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DummyThatKnowsNaI want to run a website that I cannot put on my dedicated12:56
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epimethand you want people from outside of your network to be able to access it?12:56
DummyThatKnowsNasee Windows Servers i can do like nothing12:56
DummyThatKnowsNayes exactly12:56
DummyThatKnowsNai already know that I will have to forward some ports12:57
epimethand you know how to configure your router properly?12:57
epimethoaky good12:57
DummyThatKnowsNa:-)12:57
DummyThatKnowsNaok restarted12:57
epimethdon't even bother signing in to X12:57
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DummyThatKnowsNaoops12:57
DummyThatKnowsNatoo late12:57
epimethits okay if you did12:57
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DummyThatKnowsNaok12:58
epimethits just that if you want a machine to be a dedicated server you really shouldn't have x installed... waste of resources12:58
epimethbut since its open we'll play with it anyway12:58
epimethopen up FFox12:58
DummyThatKnowsNait is open12:58
epimethtry "localhost" as the address12:58
DummyThatKnowsNaok I got apache2-default/12:59
epimethsweet12:59
epimethso apache is working12:59
epimethopen up a terminal12:59
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epimethtype ifconfig12:59
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epimethwhat is the ip?12:59
DummyThatKnowsNa192.168.1.11301:00
epimethopen up a browser on the other box and type in that ip as the address01:00
DummyThatKnowsNathe box that I a mtalking to u on or the one I want working01:00
DummyThatKnowsNasame thing01:01
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DummyThatKnowsNaapache2-default/01:01
goodseedmwi kto po polsku ?01:01
epimethwhile you are at it, open up your router's configuration and give the box with apache a static ip (it should be in the DHCP settings... you'll need its MAC address)01:01
Dr_willis!uuid01:01
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:01
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wwallace_lap!uuid01:01
epimethso its working just fine01:01
DummyThatKnowsNaumm01:01
DummyThatKnowsNawait01:01
DummyThatKnowsNado what01:01
epimethlol01:01
epimethokay01:01
epimethport forwarding works like so:01:02
archangel_shalom ya'll01:02
DummyThatKnowsNaI can do that but i do not know01:02
DummyThatKnowsNathe static ip thing01:02
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epimeththe router recieves a request on (usually) port 8001:02
epimethit then needs to move that request on to the box with apache01:02
epimethin order to do that it needs to know it's IP address01:02
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DummyThatKnowsNayea I forwarded that ip01:03
archangel_hey how hard is it to have my pc (used everyday) to be a server?01:03
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DummyThatKnowsNaI was lost when u said static ip01:03
epimethunfortunatly the apache box does not have a static ip... it recieves a different address every certain amount of time01:03
archangel_recomended01:03
archangel_?01:03
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epimetharch: shalom yourself01:04
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epimetharch: not suggested, but not hard01:04
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archangel_I can see our quite fluent01:04
epimethDummy: the router assigns random ips to all of the hosts on the network01:04
archangel_hmmmm01:04
Dr_willis!shell01:04
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:04
epimethyou have to tell it to give that specific machine the same ip every time01:05
archangel_even if I dedicate a hard drive?01:05
epimetharch: ata tzochek alai, ah?01:05
DummyThatKnowsNaok now that is what I do not know how to do01:05
DummyThatKnowsNaI already forwarded the port01:05
DummyThatKnowsNaand I can see it with my external HDD01:05
archangel_epimeth: tov ma ode01:05
DummyThatKnowsNai mean ip I mean01:05
epimethgo to the DHCP settings01:06
epimeththere should be an option there for static addresses01:06
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epimethif you look at your ifconfig you will see an HWaddr01:06
epimeththat is your MAC address01:06
archangel_I guess I will rent01:06
DummyThatKnowsNayes I see HW addr01:07
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epimetharch: ze lo kashur la hard drive.. ha meabed yaase yoter midai avoda01:07
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epimetharch: az ze lo mumlatz leharitz sharat al machshev ishi01:07
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epimetharch: ma leazazel ata ose er beshtaim baboker?01:08
epimethDummy: did you find the DHCP settings?01:09
DummyThatKnowsNayea I know where those are but I cannot see where to set this pc to that specific IP01:09
epimethwhat company/model router do you have?01:09
DummyThatKnowsNaI have Lynksys01:09
epimethmodel?01:10
DummyThatKnowsNaWRT54g01:10
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archangel_raga echod01:10
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archangel_bevacasha01:10
epimethlol... thats my old router!01:10
DummyThatKnowsNalol01:10
DummyThatKnowsNacool01:10
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DummyThatKnowsNaso we should be able to get this work easy then01:10
epimethyup01:10
archangel_(looking in Hebrew dictionary.......... not that fluent     lol01:11
juanohow do i transfer a downloading torrent from one client to the other not having to start the download from 0% again ?01:11
juanoe.g i want to transfer a torrent downloading from Ktorrent to azureus01:11
manchicken__Tonio_: It seems like not all power-management stuff is quite right.01:12
HymnToLifejuano, just start the download in Azureus01:13
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HymnToLifeit should detect the already downloaded part01:13
DummyThatKnowsNaepimeth?01:13
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vegashow's it going01:14
Tonio_manchicken you mean ?01:14
juanoHymnToLife: ok, cause i tried coping the whole contents of the folder with the downloaded part to another folder , then tried opening it with Azureus and it didnt work01:14
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Tonio_manchicken I heard about a cpu/memory usage bug01:14
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Tonio_I don't have a laptop at the moment so I can't reproduce01:14
manchickenTonio_: Resuming from suspend isn't working.01:15
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epimethDummy: sorry... was away for a sec01:15
Tonio_manchicken depends on the computer01:15
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Tonio_depends on the acpi drivers01:15
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vegasok, sorry forthe noob question, but how do i mount a folder that's shared on my network?01:15
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Tonio_nothing to do with the app, which just initiates the suspend01:15
HymnToLifevegas, what kind of "shared" ?01:15
manchickenTonio_: In #kd there seems to be someone who can reproduce...01:15
vegaswindows shared01:15
DummyThatKnowsNaepimeth: no problem01:15
Tonio_manchicken of course, someone with the same laptop ;)01:15
Tonio_manchicken there is no perfect solution for acpi support and laptop01:16
juanovegas: you use Samba01:16
HymnToLifeubotu, tell vegas about samba | vegas, see the private message from ubotu.01:16
epimethDummy: go to the DHCP tab01:16
Tonio_you have powersave and acpi-support01:16
Admiral_Chicagobtw, Tonio_ i don't remember if you answered my question. should i keep your repo in my sources?01:16
DummyThatKnowsNaok I am there01:16
Tonio_the most compatible is acpi-support, which we use, but that's very far from perfect01:16
manchickenIt worked in edgy, and it's not working in feisty...01:17
Tonio_Admiral_Chicago: you can remove it, the debs will be overwritten by the official ones when I upload (thursday)01:17
manchickenI wonder if there's some support that we're not covering now that we had before.01:17
Admiral_ChicagoTonio_: okay, cool01:17
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Tonio_manchicken I'd say kernel regression01:17
Tonio_manchicken if a printer isn't compatible, that doesn't mean kdeprint is buggy right  ? ;)01:17
Tonio_same problem with acpi in fact01:17
Tonio_nothing to do with powermanager01:17
manchickenTrue.01:18
manchickenIs this configurable in the kernel?01:18
Tonio_manchicken the best solution for those who have issues is to try kpowersave, which uses another acpi management backend01:18
Tonio_sometimes it works better on some configs01:18
Tonio_manchicken not really, just depends on the kernel options, but everything related to acpi is activated01:19
LeeJunFanwth - I just noticed an ssh key in .ssh/known_hosts for freenode, don't know how the hell that got ther.e01:19
vegasok, is there a way to make it so that playlists work?  i'm trying to play some music off of this share, and when i run an m3u it says that all of the files aren't found locally01:19
DummyThatKnowsNaepimeth: Ok I did that already01:19
epimethDummy: hold up... I'm reading the manual01:19
manchickenLet me try with kpowermanagement.01:19
Tonio_manchicken if that doesn't work, it just means the driver has a bug, no way to fix01:19
DummyThatKnowsNaI set it as static already01:19
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manchickenkpowersave doesn't like me.01:19
epimethDummy: just the specific box, right?01:19
Tonio_manchicken ca also be a problem with acpi-support scripts, right, but that's a nightmare to fix.... testing kpowersave is probably the best option in case you have a problem01:20
DummyThatKnowsNayes01:20
DummyThatKnowsNaI set just that ip to static01:20
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epimethjust so I'm clear that you did it correctly... what, exactly, did you do?01:20
manchickenTonio_: kpowersave is complaining about DBUS now.01:20
DummyThatKnowsNaI set it in the setup as the ip that gets static...lol01:20
DummyThatKnowsNaumm01:20
manchickenSaying I'm not permitted to connect to the DBUS server.01:20
DummyThatKnowsNaall I did was type the ip of that pc in the spot01:21
Tonio_manchicken hum that possible, requires rebuild ?01:21
Tonio_manchicken what is the error message ?01:21
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manchicken"You are not permitted to connect to the powersave daemon via DBUS.  Please check your DBUS configuration and installation."01:21
Tonio_manchicken look on -devel for crimsun tip01:22
trav_hey all01:22
trav_back01:22
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epimethDummy:  so you didn't do the right thing.01:22
DummyThatKnowsNaok01:23
epimeththat pc is set for retrieving its address from the DHCP server01:23
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diego_hola01:23
diego_soy ovato01:23
diego_novato01:23
diego_pero novatisimo01:24
trav_trying to get ubuntu desktop and i get back from just letting it sit and it says the the following:01:24
epimetharch: didn't know you weren't fluent... sorry...01:24
diego_alguien sabria decirme como configuro el apt-get01:24
epimetharch: basically, you don't want a desktop pc as a server because you are using it and that takes away cpu resuorces01:25
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trav_failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/evolution/evolution_2.8.1-0ubuntu4_i386.deb01:25
trav_connection timed out[IP:91.189.89.182 80]  E: unable to fetc some archives, maybe run apt-et update or try with  -- fix missing?01:26
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archangel_anyone know the cheapest place to rent a small plot on a server?01:27
vegasarchangel_: , how small?01:27
archangel_10 gig01:28
archangel_at the most01:28
vegashm01:28
vegaswhat kind of speed do you need?01:28
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vegaslike how much bandwidth are you going to be putting through?01:28
archangel_epimeth: its ok, I am ashamed that I am not01:28
LeeJunFantrav_: something is apparently wrong with your connection, I can get to that repository and browse around fine.01:28
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LeeJunFantrav_: by IP of course.01:28
archangel_not much right now01:29
epimetharch: I just took you for a native israeli since you said shalom when you got in... nothing to be ashamed of :-)01:29
vegasarchangel_: , www.dpphosting.com/reseller.php01:29
vegasfairly cheap01:29
trav_huh01:29
archangel_I sell pcs and parts on the side, and its picking up. So I thought I would try a net store and see what happends01:30
trav_ok so now...what do i have to do?01:30
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LeeJunFantrav_: open a browser and try downloading from this link: http://91.189.89.182/ubuntu/pool/main/e/evolution/evolution_2.8.1-0ubuntu4_i386.deb01:30
archangel_vegas:  " unknown host"01:30
vegasi have a friend whose prices are pretty damn good if you want him to help design it as well01:30
trav_ok as in konqueror?01:30
vegashm...i might have misspelled it01:30
trav_thats what i have now01:31
LeeJunFantrav_: yeah.01:31
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vegasoops01:31
david_join kubuntu-es01:31
vegassorry01:31
vegaswww.ddphosting.com/reseller.php01:31
vegassee...misspelled it01:31
david_argh01:31
david_sorry01:31
david_#kubunto-es01:31
archangel_actually I've always done mine, but it wont hurt to have another connect in case I cant01:32
david_#kubuntu-es01:32
trav_LeeJunFan: its downloading at the moment01:32
david_how join to kubuntu-es?01:32
vegashis screenname's draftzgod on aim01:32
LeeJunFantrav_: well, that's odd that apt couldn't get it.01:32
archangel_ahh, good01:32
trav_now how do i use the ubunto desktop instead of kde?01:32
trav_I think the connection might have timed out01:32
david_#kubuntu-es01:33
archangel_wow01:33
david_hey help me please01:33
david_how join to kubuntu-es channel?01:33
LeeJunFantrav_: well, to do that you need to successfully finish 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'01:33
david_i spanish01:33
LeeJunFantrav_: downloading evolution was more of a test.01:34
trav_oh01:34
trav_ok01:34
david_join #kubuntu-es01:34
LeeJunFan/join #kubuntu-es01:34
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LeeJunFan!es01:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:34
trav_now its downloaded its showing in konqueror three files control.tar.gz   data.tar.gz   debian-binary01:35
trav_what do i do know>01:35
LeeJunFantrav_: just close/cancel that. It's apt you need to work with.01:35
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trav_ok01:35
trav_do i need to type sudoapt-get install ubuntu-desktop again?01:36
LeeJunFantrav_: yeah.01:36
trav_would that start the entire thing over again?01:36
LeeJunFantrav_: no, it won't download what has already been downloaded.01:36
LeeJunFanThose files you download with apt are stored in a temp dir until you run 'sudo apt-get clean'01:36
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trav_hey im at some sort of configuring gdm01:37
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archangel_vegas:https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/shared.asp?app%5Fhdr=&ci=565201:38
archangel_I guess I cant beat those prices01:38
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trav_im at configuring gdm, and its saying that im to select which display manager should run by deflaut01:41
trav_how do i do this?01:41
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trav_nvm01:42
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nomad111hey all just installed edgy01:43
trav_cool01:43
nomad111wat do i need for mp3 playback01:43
nomad111do i need all the gstreamer stuff01:43
nomad111under kubuntu01:43
nomad111!mp301:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:43
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vegasi just tried to edit my /etc/fstab file, but when trying to save it won't let me01:46
vegasany suggestions?01:46
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nomad111wat command did u use01:46
nomad111to open for editing01:46
vegaserror message was this:01:46
vegasThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/fstab.01:46
vegasCheck that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.01:46
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nomad111ye01:47
vegasi opened it with kate01:47
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matt0507hi, i used to have my paritioned auto mounted in /media/sda2/ everytime i kubuntu, but now when i click on sda2 folder there are no files, how do mount my partition again?01:47
nomad111sudo kate /etc/fstab01:47
nomad111use that01:47
vegasgave me the error cannot connect to x server01:48
Jucato!kdesu01:48
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo01:48
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trav_!gksudo01:49
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 01:49
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Biovorewell on kde use kdesu01:49
trav_i was looking at GNOME01:49
nomad111there u have it01:49
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nomad111can any1 tell me if the gstreamer packages need to be installed in kubuntu01:50
nomad111for restricted formats01:50
Biovorenomad111: depends on what your doing...01:50
Jucatonomad111: not necessarily01:50
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nomad111i need mp3 playback01:51
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Jucatolibxine-extracodecs takes care of that01:51
Biovorenomad111: you need xine-lib-extras01:51
cgeohow can i send messaging in a linux box located in the same LAN using console???01:51
nomad111yep it works just had restart amarok01:51
nomad111foolish me01:51
epimeth!pastebin01:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:51
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Biovorecgeo: ytalk..  but the box on the other system has to have it running...01:52
Admiral_Chicagocgeo: you want the 'wall' command01:52
Admiral_Chicagoor 'talk'01:52
trav_hey my konsole says setting up ubuntu-desktop(1.30)  setting up brltty-x11(3.7.2-3.lubuntu3)01:52
Biovore(hes talking about over a network betweeen linux boxes)01:52
trav_what does this mean01:53
BiovoreI think brltty is a bralle intranslator terminal....01:53
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trav_ok01:53
trav_how long should this set up take?01:54
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cgeoAdmiral_Chicago:i think wall is for multiple users using the same operating system right?? i want to send messagines in another linux box01:54
AattilaDoes anybody know how could I use my .iso files without burning these to disk?01:54
archangel_use?01:54
BiovoreAattila: mkdir tmp  && mount -o loop filename.iso tmp/01:54
nomad111can upgrade to kubuntu 7.04 when it comes out or do i have to do a clean install01:54
Biovore(might need to be root)01:54
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AattilaBiovore: thanks01:55
Admiral_Chicagocgeo: not sure really. man talk?01:55
Biovorenomad111: your suppose to be able to do a dist-upgrade.. but it can be tricky sometimes..01:55
cgeoAdmiral_Chicago:yes pretty sure :)01:56
nomad111Biovore: i dont like the fact that every 6 months there is a new os01:56
nomad111Biovore: how am i meant to catch up01:56
Admiral_Chicagowell you know what, i'm going to bust out my Unix book and read up on commands. bbl all01:57
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trav_anyone know of a site for documentation?01:57
mem_!sound01:57
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:57
archangel_John Ashcroft was singing at my church01:58
archangel_didnt know he sang01:58
Biovorenomad111: apt-distupgrade is suppose to do it..01:59
trav_hey how do i know if that apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is done?01:59
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get dist-upgrade is the command01:59
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Biovoretrav_: you'll get a prompted back.. ?01:59
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trav_i still got that setting up brltty-x11 that i mentioned earlier02:02
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trav_so is kontact better or evolution?02:02
Admiral_Chicagotrav_: kmail.02:02
Biovorekontact is a total suite for PIM02:02
trav_so kontact/dke?02:03
Biovorekmail is the email client02:03
trav_do these email clients work with yahoo>02:03
trav_>02:03
trav_?02:03
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Biovorethey do POP POPS IMAP IMAPS for sure..02:03
trav_ok02:03
trav_so...yes?02:03
Admiral_Chicagotrav_: yahoo doesn't allow pop02:03
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Biovorejust like thunderbird02:03
trav_oh02:03
trav_so no?02:03
nomad111!samba02:03
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:03
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: free Yahoo Mail doesn't. but the paid one has POP3, afaik02:04
trav_well i got free, so i guess that puts paid to that02:04
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: btw, you should get your cloak and shiny new e-mail addy :)02:04
trav_?02:04
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trav_whats that mean?02:04
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: waiting on Dennis02:04
Biovoretrav_: gmail dose have pop access and works with most email clients :-P02:05
Admiral_Chicagotrav_: you have to use a web browser to check your mail is what that means02:05
cgeoAdmiral_Chicago: Talk does the job after all. Thanx02:05
trav_well i have that, but that was before i applied to college(which i got a new email)02:05
Admiral_Chicagocgeo: cool, np02:05
trav_oh i don't mind using browser to check02:05
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: you already joined the ubuntu members LP team?02:06
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: yep. I got approved earlier today. I still need Dennis to approve the cloak approval, and I'm sure it'll be freddymartinez9@ubuntu.com soon02:06
Jucatokool :)02:07
trav_hey what was that admiral about a cloak?02:07
Admiral_Chicagotrav_: ubuntu members get cloaks so a /whois Jucato says:02:07
Admiral_Chicago"Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato"02:08
trav_hey how can i see if this update in the shell is done02:08
trav_oh02:08
Admiral_Chicagotrav_: which update?02:08
trav_-- the Ubuntu desktop it says setting up brltty-x11    and its been like that for 5 min probably     ------anyone still on from when i was trying to get my wireless up02:09
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trav_my wireless card doesn't appear in network settings02:09
Admiral_Chicagohmm, maybe try CTRL + C and try again02:10
trav_so wait- is it stuck?02:10
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trav_i don't really want to download anything again take up more space02:10
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Admiral_Chicagotrav_: won't be downloading anything extra02:11
trav_which really is causing me to wonder why im downloading the ubuntu stuff in the first place, if kontact and what not is better....02:11
trav_thoughts anyone?02:11
Biovoretrav_: press ctrl-c to kill it..02:11
Biovoretrav_: then try a apt-get install -f02:11
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Biovoretrav_: pop open a terminal and type iwconfig02:11
trav_sure02:11
Biovoretrav_: and what wireless care you have?02:12
trav_a just a sec02:12
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mart81someone knows where kopete stores it's account information? I need to get around a usability bug.02:13
TheDebuggerKWallet?02:13
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Admiral_ChicagoKwalletmanager iirc. but yes TheDebugger is corret afaik02:14
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trav_crap, whats the command to find wireless card?02:14
mart81TheDebugger: nope, i started with creating a winpop account, got a popup whether i wanted to created a folder, said no and cancled all. But now i get a popup that i do not have samba running every minute.(!)02:14
Biovoretrav_: iwconfig02:15
Biovoretrav_: lspci02:15
hassanm\j02:15
trav_thanks02:15
hassanmHello eveyone02:16
trav_i got the iwconfig02:16
hassanm#ubuntu02:16
Dr_willis0_o02:16
underdog5004hey trav_ , any luck?02:16
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trav_here it is biovore: intel pro/wireless 3945 ABG network connection02:17
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trav_yeah man im just slow, still trying to remember which commands do what02:17
Biovoretrav_: same one I got :-P02:17
trav_ace02:17
Biovoreworks great here02:17
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underdog5004trav_, cool02:17
BiovoreI don't remember if the OS worked it out of the box or not..02:17
trav_and while we're on wireless: do you happen to have an HP all in one 2710 wireless printer? :)02:17
civixierhi all. I want to install kubuntu on my 512 mb USB flash drive. Is this possible?02:18
trav_ahh hah02:18
trav_gangs all here now02:18
Biovorecivixier: yes02:18
BiovoreI have install kubuntu on usb external HDs before..02:18
Biovorethe bios just have to beable to boot it..02:18
Dr_willis512mb may be a little small02:18
Biovore^ probably true..02:18
underdog5004yeah, you need at least 3 gigs02:18
mart81oh, nevermind, restarting the app seems to have fixed this. Still is a usability bug IMO.02:19
trav_biovore: My printer is wireless and I don't know what to do to run it, i was googling and found some sort of linux hp driver deal and my printer was listed as supported, just don't know how i would get about it working02:19
civixierthat's too bad... then I'll go buy a 3gb flash drive instead. Thanks anyways :)02:19
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Dr_willisthere are other disrtos taht work on 512mb or less02:20
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Admiral_ChicagoDSL is one02:20
pfeinhow do I get tomboy to use Konqueror instead of Firefox?02:20
Dr_willispuppy linux, DSL, slax are others02:21
MinatakuDSL is wonderful02:21
JucatoKubuntu works fine with 256, works nice with 512MB02:21
Admiral_Chicagopfein: that's a GNOME app, not sure if you can02:21
trav_firefox keeps closing when i try to go to yahoo02:21
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: on a 512 Mb flash drive?02:21
pfeinAdmiral_Chicago: I just want to tell it to use a different default browser.02:21
Admiral_Chicago:O02:21
pfeinKDE'll use Firefox just fine....02:21
aseigopfein: there's a setting in gconf for that iirc02:21
Admiral_Chicago~/.gconf iirc as well02:22
trav_biovore: what do i have to do now?02:22
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: lol sorry02:22
MinatakuDSL is 50MB on disk, runs excellently in 80MB of RAM on a 166MHz Pentium 1 + MMX02:22
JucatoI thought RAM bwahaha02:22
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aseigopfein: http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/users/2004-September/014087.html02:22
aseigopfein: that might work stil =)02:22
Jucatoaseigo!!!! :)02:22
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aseigoah, the simple desktop02:22
civixierthx, I'll try one of them :D02:22
JucatoHobbsee!!! :)02:23
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trav_biovore: do you know what i should do?02:24
Hobbseehey Jucato!02:24
HymnToLifeMinataku, DSL runs very well on 16 MB of RAM and 90 MHz :)02:24
MinatakuHymnToLife: 16MB? Now that I can't believe02:25
MinatakuIs that with X11 or without?02:25
HymnToLifewithout02:25
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MinatakuSee? There's the scam02:25
Minatakulol02:25
HymnToLifeit runs acceptably with, too02:25
HymnToLifewith openbox as WM02:25
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MinatakuI'd test it on Minataku (75MHz Pentium 1 M, 8MB RAM) but he has no CD-ROM drive02:26
MinatakuMahoro is the slightly more advanced one02:26
Minatakulol02:26
stodgeHi folks - I'm trying to reinstall grub. I installed Kubuntu a while ago, then a few months  later installed WinXP, which wiped out my MBR. I booted into the LiveCD, but I'm not sure how to re-install grub on my disk. Any suggstions appreciated.02:27
Jucato!grub | stodge02:27
ubotustodge: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:27
civixieruhm... just one more thing... about DSL... I've got a wireless router with WPA-security... Is that an obstacle?02:27
trav_.....hello...can someone help with why my wireless card isn't showing up in network systems?02:28
ubuntu__gggg02:28
Dr_willishhhh02:28
ubuntu__hola02:29
trav_well someone was helping, but im lost again02:30
trav_the good thing is im on the wireless02:30
stodgeThanks!02:30
Biovoretrav_: I guess that means you figured out the wireless :-P02:30
trav_sort of02:31
underdog5004trav_, can I help at all?02:31
trav_here is another thing then: my router has an WEP key which i know but i don't know if i enter it under network systems or under knetworkmanager02:31
trav_yeah02:31
pfeinaseigo: hmm... Isn't this what /etc/alternatives is for?02:31
trav_possilby help me puzzle this out02:31
Biovoretrav_: standard 64bit wep?02:32
trav_idk02:32
underdog5004trav_, uh...I've used WEP before on linux...but it was kinda sketchy02:32
trav_my dads friend did all the network setting up02:32
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trav_i really want to stop usign my mates router, and use my own02:32
Biovoretrav_: you can specify it using iwconfig..  (iwconfig is the wireless controll system on the CLI)02:32
underdog5004lol, go for it...you've got one for yourself?02:33
trav_he said it was alright to use it, but i don't really want to ear out teh welcome02:33
Biovoretrav_: man iwconfig02:33
trav_well not my own02:33
trav_the router for the house02:33
fignewcan anyone help me with audio... I disabled ARTSd from the KDE control panel, and I tried to use the ALSA output drivers (in xine) but those failed to initialize... OSS works fine however (it's limited to one sound source though)02:33
trav_biovore: do i type man iwconfig in the konsole?02:33
trav_or just iwconfig?02:33
Biovorefignew: dose it fail with something like "Can't open /dev/dsp" when running alsa only?02:34
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Biovoretrav_: yes.. open konsole and type man iwconfig02:34
Biovoretrav_: press Q to exit it..02:34
trav_ok02:35
fignewno mention of /dev/dsp02:35
trav_should i open a new console?02:35
fignew(I am in the audio group BTW)02:35
trav_or just type it in shell one or 2?02:35
Biovorefignew: you get any sound at all?02:36
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Biovorefignew: in alsa?02:36
fignewhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5659/ <-- exact error message02:36
Biovoretrav_: dosn't mater.. any where you got a bash prompt02:36
fignewjust in ALSA, OSS Xine output works fine02:36
trav_ok02:36
fignewI can get sound using OSS or ARTSd (If it's enabled)02:37
trav_ok typed that in, what am i looking for?02:37
Biovorefignew: intressting bug you got there...02:37
fignewyea :/02:37
Biovorefignew: I wonder if alsa's setup is messed up somehow..  what sound card you got?02:38
trav_underdog:  think this could help with my printer issue?":  http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html02:38
trav_ive an HP photosmart 2710 wireless all in one02:38
Biovoretrav_: thats probably in cups..02:39
Biovoreis the wireless wifi (has a IP on a network) or bluetooth?02:39
trav_i wan to say wifi02:39
Biovoretrav_: then treat it as a network printer in cups02:39
Dr_willisif you can ping it. :)02:39
trav_cos no one uses bluetooth here(at least for printers)02:39
trav_ok02:39
trav_install that hplip?02:40
Dr_willisi found the gnome cups interface a little easier to set up a printer in.. the kde interface is a bit.. overwhelming02:40
fignewBiovore: 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)02:40
trav_well im running kde?02:40
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Biovoretrav_: hplip is for HP PSC printers I think..02:40
fignewM-audio brand 7.1 card02:40
trav_well i saw photosmart 2710 on the list somewhere02:40
Biovorefignew: hmm.. that care should work fine..02:41
MenaIs there a program like IDM but stay away from kget02:41
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bdnphappy valentin's day everybody02:41
Menabdnp, happy valentin02:41
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Menaany idea02:42
bdnpabout what Mena02:42
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trav_so whats up02:42
trav_ok so...02:42
Menaa program like IDM02:42
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trav_any luck?02:42
Menabut not kget02:43
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bdnpdunno Mena02:43
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Menabdnp,ok :)02:43
bdnpwhat kind of program is idm02:43
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beg1689can someone help me please? i cant get this dam wireless to work02:44
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Menaits internet dowenload manager its name is that its so popular for XP02:44
beg1689and its not a driver problem02:44
beg1689i can scan for networks with wlassistant02:44
beg1689and it even shows whether they are encrypted or not02:45
beg1689but i cant connect02:45
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Biovorebeg1689: connecting to a encrypted network?02:45
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beg1689my home network yes, its jsut WEP02:45
beg1689i put the code in02:45
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beg1689heres my result from trying to connect with wlassistant, the only error it logs is something about a ping: http://rafb.net/p/ni0DAp19.html02:46
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johanezhey02:46
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ComProhey everyone...i'm trying to get synergy to start up before a user logs in to the machine. how would i go about doing that? running kubuntu edgy02:47
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beg1689i can try disabling the WEP to narrow it down but i dont think it is02:47
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hellcattravok im back02:47
BiovoreComPro: look at /etc/init.d/02:47
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StarenHello!02:48
hellcattravBiovore: i typed in iwconfig in my konsole02:48
bdnpoke and kget is not good Mena02:48
hellcattravmy wireless card is an i394502:48
beg1689ipw394502:48
hellcattravbroadcom intel pro wireless02:48
Jucatokget is good. it's a download *manager* not a download *accelerator*02:48
Biovoreipw3945 isn't broadcom.. its intell02:48
StarenThe HDD transfer worked, so now I'm ready to actually install Kubuntu. I've never made a dual-boot system before, so I just want to make sure -- I make a second primary partition, not an extended one, right?02:48
beg1689thats my card02:48
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hellcattravsorrty02:48
Biovorehellcattrav: dose it work?02:49
beg1689sure it does02:49
StarenI'm using the kubuntu livecd's install program.02:49
beg1689mine *did* work02:49
hellcattravi assume so- unless theres a way wirelessly on the net02:49
hellcattrav?02:49
hellcattravbut the card doesn't show in network settings02:49
hellcattravi just have eth0 and eth102:49
beg1689eth1 is it for me02:49
Biovorehellcattrav: yeah its probably eth102:49
Biovorehellcattrav: use iwconfig eth1 to see the wireless settings02:50
hellcattraveth1 also has an ip02:50
Biovorehellcattrav: yeah.. one is your wired and the other is your wifi02:50
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beg1689Biovore.. how would i go about switching to a wireless connection, assuming everything is as it should be02:50
hellcattravok02:50
hellcattravso eht1 is wifi02:50
Menabdnp , no i dont like it so musch02:51
Biovorehellcattrav: to see what its doing check your route (route -n)02:51
Menamuch*02:51
hellcattravin konsole?02:51
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Biovorebeg1689: there is a app that makes this gravy.. (apt-get install knetworkManager)02:51
Menamaybe he also check the DNS02:51
bdnpwell to be honest i dont use download managers Mena02:51
beg1689heh no it doesnt02:51
Biovorehellcattrav: yes,,02:51
beg1689that program for me just crashes02:51
beg1689wlassistant came with ubuntu and it used to work great, jut stopped working all the sudden02:51
Biovorebeg1689: iwconfig?02:51
Menabdnp , no problem i will find a solution02:52
Menabdnp , :)02:52
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StarenI don't want to bother people....02:52
Biovorebeg1689: wlassistan kinda sucks for me too..02:52
beg1689so if im using iwconfig how would i connect02:52
Biovorebeg1689: knetworkmanager is different02:52
beg1689just set the essid?02:52
beg1689and the key if necesery02:52
Biovorebeg1689: 1 sec.. I have to look it up again..02:52
hellcattravhow is knetworkmanager different?02:52
hellcattravwiat02:52
hellcattravive a WEP key, would the set up work the same for his WPA ?02:53
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Biovorehellcattrav: see man iwconfig02:53
beg1689im using WEP02:53
hellcattravmanual?02:53
Biovorehellcattrav: knetworkmanager is a small icon that sits in your system tray02:53
BiovoreI am using wep here as well02:53
hellcattravyeah02:53
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Biovoreand it works02:54
hellcattravhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5662/02:54
hellcattravok02:54
hellcattravfinally progres02:54
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hellcattravBiovore: here is what i got when i rann -n02:54
Biovorehellcattrav: you using your wireless now..02:54
hellcattravyeah02:54
hellcattravbut i can't get to my router02:55
hellcattravso im using wireless02:55
hellcattravyay02:55
hellcattravbut its not quite constitant02:55
Biovorewell it looks connect02:55
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hellcattravcurrently k network manager is disconnected02:55
Biovorethe signal strength loks like crap02:55
hellcattravi connected with wlan assistant02:55
hellcattravi think02:55
hellcattravhow can i telll signal strength?02:56
Biovoreyou running in ad-hoc or managed?02:56
hellcattrav?02:56
hellcattravi don't know02:56
Biovoreits in iwconfig02:56
hellcattravthis is only day three with kubunut02:56
beg1689iwconfig shows signal strength02:56
hellcattravkubuntu*02:56
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hellcattravk02:56
BiovoreKNetworkManager shows signal strength too02:57
epimeth!lamp02:57
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)02:57
hellcattravbut thats disconnectd02:57
hellcattravknetworkmanager I mean02:57
bdnpyou have to edit the configuration file for knetworkmanager so that it recognize your card i believe hellcattrav02:58
hellcattravok so do wireless cards normally show up in network settings under there name02:58
hellcattravchrist02:58
hellcattravok02:58
Biovoreyeah.. knetworkmanager is kinda funky.. It only works if you start with your wifi disconnected.. IT took me some fanagling to get it to work right..02:58
hellcattravwelll i got to start learning to edit stuff02:58
hellcattravmind helping me finangle mine?02:58
Biovorehellcattrav: well I can..  but I set the wifi up months ago02:58
BiovoreDon't really remember what it was I did..02:59
BiovoreI think I found something on the fourms02:59
pfeinaseigo: gconftool --set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command --type=string 'konqueror %s'02:59
beg1689so what am i supposed to do to get my wireless to work02:59
pfeinthat should be a faq02:59
hellcattravwhen you say start with wifi off, as in start the wifi off as the computer is off? and keep it off until kubuntu is up and running?02:59
beg1689not possible02:59
hellcattravcos my wireless card as a little switch that i can toggle on or off03:00
beg1689if my wifi switch is off kubuntu doesnt start up03:00
hellcattravah see ive not tried it03:00
StarenHow big should /swap be?03:00
beg1689it took me an hour to figure out why i couldnt start the install cd when i was first installing kubuntu03:00
beg1689because the switch was off03:00
hellcattravthat blows03:00
Biovorebeg1689: intressting..03:00
Biovoremy box dosn't care if its there or not..03:01
hellcattravhuh03:01
beg1689im using a laptop03:01
hellcattravme too03:01
Biovorebeg1689: same here..  Dell E170503:01
hellcattravHP pavillion dv900003:01
beg1689mine is sort of a dell03:01
StarenI'm a linux newbie installing kubuntu -- How big should the partition for /swap be?03:01
beg1689alienware03:01
BiovoreStaren: 1GB or so..03:01
hansent_Staren, how much ram do you have?03:01
Staren1 gig.03:01
mart81Staren: max 1GB is my personal observation.03:02
hellcattravive also got a dual boot03:02
beg1689nice guess Biovore03:02
Dr_willisStaren,  512mb or so is about as much as ive seen needed.. but it depends on wha tyou are doing03:02
StarenWell, is 1GB best, or does it usually not need to be that big?03:02
Biovorehellcattrav: no dual boot here.. linux dose everything and then some...03:02
beg1689if you want to be able to suspend to disk, you will need 1 gb03:02
Biovorebeg1689: hmm let me look at my wifi setup and I'll get back to you in a few mins..03:02
StarenWell, I'll for the most part be doing web browsing, MUDing, internet browsing, and games.03:02
mart81Staren: 1GB is perfectly fine, but you also cannot have anough ram03:03
Starenand some programming.03:03
hellcattravhey what bout me?03:03
hansent_I usually go with 2 GB...but you should have at least 2x your ram size03:03
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mart81*enough03:03
hellcattravi mean its working great, but it sometimes cuts in and out03:03
Dr_willis2x ram size is old.03:03
beg1689i have 512mb swap and 1.5gb ram03:03
Dr_willisI rarely even use any of my swap.03:03
beg1689i never use my swap03:03
beg1689but i heard its a bad idea not to have one03:03
hellcattravand do you  either of you to know anything bout wireless printers?03:03
Biovorebeg1689: you have libiw28 installed?03:03
Dr_willisbeg1689,  yep. I keep a little swap on all my hd's :)03:03
beg1689yup03:04
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StarenSo 1GB if I want to be able to suspend, and what, half my ram size otherwise? 1/3 of my ram size?03:04
Biovoreno swap here.. :-P03:04
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Biovorethat way I can change the size of my swap space on the fly :-P03:05
mart81Staren: i just stick to 1GB always, works for me.03:05
beg1689i have a 512mb swap but i am using exactly 0mb03:05
beg1689and only 320mb of my total mem03:05
Biovorebeg1689: yeah.. only hardcore people eat swap for lunch..03:05
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hansent_512MB Ram is a little low if your going to go without a swap dont you think?03:05
Biovorewhen your consistanly run 50 tasks at once.. then you will eat that swap..03:05
StarenBy suspend, you don't mean the thing where it just sort of goes into a low-power mode, but the thing where it writes memory to a disk and shuts off?03:06
beg1689i have 1.5gb ram, msot i ever do is internet, chat, music, and programming at once03:06
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StarenHmm. 50? I might do 20-30... I tend to end up with a lot of browser, folder, and various windows open...03:06
beg1689so anyway.. my wireless doesnt work03:07
beg1689i think i screwed it up somehow03:07
beg1689and would that ping error have anything to do with it?03:07
Biovorebeg1689: you have libiw28 installed?03:07
StarenIf I need swap I could always partition some in anyway, right? What happens if it needs swap and I haven't got any?03:07
beg1689yes03:07
Dr_willisbad things. :)03:07
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Dr_willisya can always make a swap file if ya want to03:07
beg1689if theres room03:08
BiovoreDr_willis: thats what I do03:08
beg1689but if your going to have blank unpartitioned space why dont you jusdt make a swap03:08
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StarenShould be room for a swap file, I'm giving 10GB to the linux partition.03:08
Dr_willis10gb? that would be enough for my... err.. no not enough for that..03:08
Dr_willis:)03:08
Biovorebeg1689: (I don't have 1 partion)03:09
StarenThe rest is going to Win XP and an old hard drive that I'm copying over completely (FAT32)03:09
Biovore(only have)03:09
beg1689ony my laptop i have 20gb / 80gb /home and 20gb C:\03:09
Dr_willisyou could put swap on the old hd.03:09
Dr_willis:)03:09
beg1689and a 60gb external for windows03:09
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Biovorebeg1689: iwconfig eth0 mode Managed03:10
Biovoretry that03:10
beg1689its eth103:10
beg1689and its set to managed03:10
Biovoreok03:10
hellcattravwhats that?03:10
StarenWell, in the end it will look something like 25GB-NTFS (win xp), 58GB-FAT32 (old drive from a windows system), 10GB-ext3 (kubuntu)03:10
epimeth|awayspeaking of wireless... my wireless card is set as eth1... how do I make it wlan0?03:10
hellcattravare we through with me--- is there anything else i need to do?03:10
beg1689alias03:10
StarenSo I could put a swap file in either of the latter partitions and that would work fine?03:10
hellcattravwhat is wlan0?03:10
hellcattravwhats the difference?03:11
beg1689an alias03:11
beg1689no difference03:11
hellcattravoh03:11
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Biovorebeg1689: apt-get install knetworkmanager03:11
hellcattravso why does it show sometimes as one and not another03:11
hellcattraveth1 compared to eth0 or wlan0?03:11
Biovorebeg1689: then run it from the K-Button | internet |03:11
epimethI just want it to be wlan0... how do I do that?03:12
beg1689well i use e17 but OK :)03:12
Biovorehellcattrav: there interface names..03:12
Biovorebeg1689: oh..03:12
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StarenSo I'm not going to have unpartitioned space on the drive when I'm finished moving all the files over.03:12
hellcattravdo i need to know about them, or would it confuse me at this point :)03:12
beg1689i have kubuntu desktop installed though and the whole menus there03:12
Biovoreah..03:12
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StarenSo I don't need a /swap I can just make a swap file if I don't expect to use swap much?03:12
Biovorebut it my not work because your not in kde..03:12
Biovorebeg1689: I don't think E17 has a gui method for running your ethernet03:13
Biovoreerr wireless03:13
beg1689doesnt matter what enviremont you use03:13
beg1689same programs03:13
beg1689just eats a bit more memory03:13
Biovorewell knetworkmanager needs the kicker to be running03:13
hellcattravwhats a kicker?03:13
Biovoremaybe..03:13
Biovorethat bar with the K-button on it..03:13
Biovoreon the bottom of kde03:13
Biovorehas the clock your tasks and icons on it..03:14
beg1689you are right03:14
beg1689BUT03:14
beg1689i can run the kicker from e17 :)03:14
hellcattravoh03:14
hellcattravok03:14
Biovoreit may dock with the E17 systray still..03:14
Dr_willisssh -X to a box and run kicker,, then ya can launch stuf and have it appear locally :)03:14
beg1689i dont usually use the systray03:14
beg1689well its in kicker03:15
beg1689it shows my network, full signal03:15
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beg1689(im like 3 inches from the router)03:15
epimethdoc: do you know how I can change my interface name from eth1 to wlan0?03:15
usuariohello03:15
Biovorebeg1689: cool can you connect to it with the gui?03:15
Dr_willisepimeth,  why would ya need to?03:15
beg1689ill try running it but theres a good chance itll just drop my LAN connection and wont connect to wireless03:15
epimethI don't03:15
beg1689here goes03:15
epimethI want to03:15
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Dr_willisi think that differnt wireless drivers/cards use different device names03:15
Biovoreepimeth: is a module alias in /etc/modules(something)03:16
Dr_willisin any case you would use eth1 , you can use wlan003:16
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Dr_willisor should be able to at least03:16
hellcattravwell thats that question answered03:16
Biovoreyeah.. its just a name for a interface.. it dosn't matter..03:16
usr001ie got a problem03:16
beg1689am i still connected?03:16
Biovorebeg1689: yup03:16
hellcattraveither of you know about printers03:16
Dr_willisbeg1689,  yes.03:16
usr001yep. you r connected03:17
beg1689it says Activation stage: IP configureation started.03:17
Biovorebeg1689: dose you route -n show eth1 as the default gw03:17
beg1689its stuck there03:17
hellcattravbeg1689: coming in loud and clear  :)03:17
Dr_willishellcattrav,  id say google the ubuntu wiki/forims for your exact printer.03:17
hellcattravthanks03:17
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beg1689nope.. it shot me back to the WEP pass screen03:17
Dr_willishellcattrav,  i can configure MY network printer fairly easially.. but its simple.03:17
hellcattravits an HP photosmart 2710 all in one if that helps at all03:17
beg1689gonna try it disabled03:17
epimethBiovore: it uses ndiswrapper... can I configure ndiswrapper to appear as wlan0?03:17
Dr_willishellcattrav,  i think theres some services you need to install and get running  for that thing.03:18
Biovoreepimeth: broadcom wifi?03:18
epimethI 'm pretty sure thats the chip, but the card itself is a linksys03:18
Biovoreepimeth: I don't know anything about ndiswrapper..  Its basicly a crappy hack to get hardware suport.. no clue what it can do..03:18
epimethkay03:18
epimeththanks anyway03:18
epimethDoc: you know, maybe?03:19
morticiis there a IA64 version of kubuntu?03:19
usr001somebody changed my root password. but i changed it by entering in single mode. but it seems like the root password is't the password i have to tell when i want to use adept and other stuff thar needs administration privileges in KDE. How can i change the administrator password from command line?03:19
hellcattravsweet some one you may know something.....        Dr_willis would you know what if any i would instal for it?03:19
Dr_willisIve given up on wireless.. i just run wires.03:19
Biovoremortici: I don't think so..  I don't thing AMD64 arch works on that..03:19
beg1689ok03:19
morticiBiovore: :( thanks03:19
Dr_willis!find hjoj03:19
epimethdoc: kay... cheers anyway.  gnight all!03:19
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hellcattravoh03:20
Dr_willis!find officejet03:20
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ubotuPackage/file officejet does not exist in edgy03:20
hellcattravbecause theres no real wires i have03:20
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hellcattraveveryone else uses windows, and my dads uber computer god set it up03:20
Dr_willisif the wireless is working,,, and you can ping the printer... then you just need to figure out how to configure it.03:20
Dr_willisat least you dont have a Canon printer.03:21
deitarionWhich packages are necessary to get video support in Kopete via a Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX?03:21
Biovorelolz... god.. they suck03:21
hellcattravi just got kubuntu and installed it yesterday03:21
hellcattravhow do i ping it03:21
Dr_willisping ip.of.the.box03:21
Biovorehellcattrav: pop open a konsole and type ping <ipaddress> -c 403:21
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Dr_willisto test03:21
usr001i think ping comes with that. tracert does't03:22
hellcattravhow do i know what the ip address would be?03:22
hellcattravwould an ethernet cable work?03:22
Dr_willisgood question....03:22
Biovorehellcattrav: ping broadcase maybe..?03:22
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Dr_willisplug in a network cable.. and see what the docs say03:22
Biovorehellcattrav: or there is a print a test page button on the printer...03:22
Dr_willisthen use the web interface to the device. (if it has one)03:22
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hellcattravshit this isn't making sense03:22
usr001ifconfig03:22
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Dr_willishellcattrav,  and this is rather basic networking stuff.03:23
Biovorehellcattrav: well your setup will be.. you need info to tell the linux box..03:23
Dr_willishellcattrav,  if the printer has an ip.. or you can set a static ip.. that will make it a lot easier.03:23
hellcattravyes and i don't generally muck about with networking03:23
Dr_willisplug in a usb cable then and do it that way03:23
usr001use ifconfig03:23
hellcattravhow so usr001?03:23
Dr_willisif you got the ip of the device set wrong.. well it may be impossible to configure03:24
usr001go to an terminal window and type ifconfig03:24
Dr_willisya could use windows and see what ip its using.03:24
Biovoreusr001: that tells him his ip.. no the printers...03:24
beg1689i got it working but only with WEP disabled, which sucks03:24
beg1689hmm.. picking up an unencrypted "linksys" nearby03:24
usr001oh03:24
usr001i thought he was talking about network03:24
Dr_willisnetwork enabled printer03:25
Biovoreusr001: we just got past that point.. :-P03:25
hellcattravyeah :)03:25
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hellcattravok looked at the printer, options saw something called network but it said i had to have HP software03:25
usr001is there any button on the printer that prints the printer server configuration?03:25
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Dr_willishellcattrav,  the docs may mention some web interface to the device also.03:26
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beg1689.03:26
Biovorehes back..03:26
Dr_willisof course my wireless router has a web interface that shows me what machines are using what ip's also.. :)03:26
Biovorebeg1689: your netconnection probably changed..03:26
usr001usually there's a button on the printer that when you hold, prints the ip it's using03:26
beg1689well i got everything working EXCEPT my WEP is off03:26
bdnpmy god that somebody uses chatzilla03:26
Biovorebeg1689: the swap between interfaces drops you TCP connections..03:26
hellcattravhey if i tell it to print network configurations?03:26
hellcattravwould that work?03:27
Dr_willishellcattrav,  ONE way to find out!03:27
bdnpanyway guys night night, this guy is going to bed03:27
Biovorebeg1689: yeah.. that can be set in knetwork manager..03:27
Dr_willis:)03:27
hellcattravok, correction would that be a jumping off point03:27
usr001at least you will know the ip you wanna ping03:27
hellcattravyeah03:27
hellcattravhey biovore: how do i input the WEP key? in knetworkmanager or in wlan assisstant?03:28
Biovorebeg1689: you will need to know the 12 hex digit code (I think its 12 length)03:28
beg1689mine is 10 digit03:28
beg1689do i need 0x?03:28
beg1689i have it memorized03:28
Biovoreyeah that might be it..03:28
beg1689and is it case sensititive?03:28
usr001guess i can't help03:28
Biovorenope..03:28
usr001:P03:28
Biovoreall numbers (0-9) and alpha (A-F)03:29
usr001somebody changed my root password. but i changed it by entering in single mode. but it seems like the root password is't the password i have to tell when i want to use adept and other stuff thar needs administration privileges in KDE. How can i change the administrator password from command line?03:29
underdog5004usr001, sudo passwd root03:29
underdog5004!sudo03:29
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:29
Biovoreusr001: sudo passwd  (I think, but ubuntu dosn't set root passwd)03:29
hellcattravok i got the network config page03:29
hellcattravMy WEP is 10 digits too03:30
beg1689how i turn my wireless off so that knetworkmanager can find it again03:30
hellcattravmine is just 10 numbers though03:30
Biovorebeg1689: well just wait.. it scans for networks every so offen..03:30
beg1689no i mean it doesnt find eth103:30
Biovorebeg1689: it should show a lock symbol by the network..03:30
hellcattravoi see an ip address on here for the printer03:30
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hellcattravshould i try that03:30
Dr_willis0_o03:31
beg1689i think you mentioned it before, it doesnt find it when its active03:31
Biovorebeg1689: dosn't show any wireless networks?03:31
hellcattravgo to printer set up?03:31
beg1689doesnt even show a wireless adapter03:31
usr001it didn't work03:31
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Dr_willishellcattrav,  try pinging that ip and see if it blows up. :)03:31
beg1689iwconfig shows it though, and shows my signal strength and all03:31
Biovorebeg1689: you on wireless now?03:31
beg1689no im using lan03:31
hellcattravwhat do you mean by blow up?03:31
Dr_willishellcattrav,  if you cant ping it - you aint going to be able to set it up.03:31
hellcattravoh03:31
hellcattravalright03:31
beg1689but i tihnk my wireless is connected, just not being used as my connection03:32
Dr_willishellcattrav,  which is WHY we suggested using a cabled connection first.03:32
Biovoredose ifconfig show eth1 with a IP?03:32
usr001i changed the root password. but it is not working inside kde03:32
Biovorebeg1689: dose route -n show eth0 for 0.0.0.003:32
beg1689there is no eth103:32
beg1689in ifconfig03:32
Biovoreusr001: kde wants your user password in kubuntu03:32
beg1689theres an lo but no ip03:32
beg1689route -n shows eth0 only03:32
Biovorebeg1689: oh.. you must have turned of the wifi with that wifi button or something..03:33
hellcattravyes ok03:33
usr001my user has no privileges03:33
beg1689no03:33
beg1689its connected03:33
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beg1689its conected to my network03:33
beg1689but not being used03:33
Biovorebeg1689: if eth1 dosn't show up in ifconfig.. you can't be connected03:33
hellcattravsorry its just my dad and others set up and generally fix any of this stuff, im doing all this linux kubuntu stuff all for my self03:33
beg1689well its not connected but its doing something03:33
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Biovorebeg1689: might be searching for signals or something.. thats something the card dose by itself03:34
usr001well03:34
hellcattravhey when i type in ping do i need to put <  > around it>03:34
usr001for some reason it worked03:35
usr001:D03:35
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Dr_willishellcattrav,  no03:35
Dr_willisthat was an Example03:35
usr001thankx03:35
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hellcattravoh03:35
beg1689"No network device found"03:35
Biovorebeg1689: yeah.. no eth1 means the kernel dosn't see it anymore..03:35
beg1689but iwconfig sees it03:36
Biovorebeg1689: ifconfig -a03:36
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beg1689shos signal strength.. access point.. essid03:36
hellcattrav typed ping 192.168.0.107   and got this :      PING 192.168.0.107 (192.168.0.107) 56(84) bytes of data.03:36
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hellcattravso is that the printer?03:36
Biovoredid you see a something ms03:37
beg1689eth1 is there03:37
Dr_willisdid the ping respond?03:37
hellcattravi can't tell03:37
hellcattravlike i said ive never done this before03:37
Dr_willisid guess thats a NO then03:37
hellcattravprobably03:37
Biovorebeg1689: its just not configured..  It will get configured when you use the knetworkmanager thing.. (Or should)03:37
Dr_willistry 'ping 127.0.0.1'03:37
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hellcattravok03:38
usr001have you ppl installed second life ?03:38
beg1689but whaqt im trying to say is knetwork manager doesnt find any adapters03:38
hellcattravyeah im getting something back03:38
Dr_willisusr001,  yes.. and i still dont see the point to the game.. and YES its a game. :P refuardless of what the media/company wants to say03:38
hellcattravwhat is it?03:38
Dr_willisheh heh03:38
hellcattravwhat?03:38
Biovorebeg1689: It dosn't show any interfaces on my eather.. just wired and wireless networks it can see..03:38
Dr_willishellcattrav,  that one WORKING.. it sends a signel to the box and times the return.03:38
beg1689no it says no dvice found03:39
Dr_willishellcattrav,  if nothing returns - then the remote machine is not reachable or working03:39
beg1689in the main part of the menu03:39
Biovorebeg1689: ifconfig eth1  up03:39
hellcattrav so...03:39
hellcattravthis means that i was pinging myself?03:39
Biovorehellcattrav: yes03:39
hellcattravoh03:39
hellcattravok03:39
usr001is that hard to install03:39
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Dr_willisusr001,  was trivial.. download their installer.. run it...03:40
Dr_willisusr001,  i installed it for a single user.03:40
Biovorehellcattrav: are you on the same network as the printer? (192.168.0.xx ip on both systems)03:40
usr001there's something about the video driver03:40
beg1689oh i got it03:40
hellcattravnope03:40
beg1689how can i give my user access to eth1?03:40
hellcattravive geen trying to get on the same network03:40
Biovorebeg1689: you had to do something as root?03:40
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Dr_willisusr001,  you have your video cards 3d drivers set up?03:40
beg1689yes03:41
beg1689knetworkmanager only works as root03:41
hellcattravbut i don't know what to do with the WEP key03:41
beg1689otherwise it says no device found03:41
Biovorebeg1689: hmm runs as a user here..03:41
beg1689that doesnt help03:41
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usr001they say i need exactly the openGl driver, but my computer is sealed and i had to take it to the store to change the motherboard03:41
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hellcattravbiovore:  how do i enable the WEP key?03:41
usr001i dont know the driver i have to use now03:42
Dr_willisusr001,  what video card do you have? ati/nvidia?03:42
Biovorehellcattrav: you knetworkmanager?03:42
usr001onboard03:42
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Dr_willisusr001,  gee.. that tells me very little. :)03:42
hellcattravnope, wlan assisstant, knetworkmanager says its disconnected03:42
Dr_willis!nvidia03:42
usr001i know03:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:42
Dr_willis!ati03:42
Dr_willisuse lspci and see what cards are shown03:42
Dr_willisor a live cd.. or boot to windows and sew what card IT sees03:42
Biovorehellcattrav: you have linux-restricted-modules installed?03:43
Dr_willisif you are using a low end onboard viceo card-- well your 2nd live gaming experience may not be that good.03:43
usr001i dont have windows03:43
deitarionWhat could cause a video camera to be recognized without error but no /dev/video* entry to appear?03:43
hellcattravprobably not, since i jsut got this up and running03:43
usr001let me see03:43
Biovorehellcattrav: also install network-manager-kde03:43
hellcattravwhats the difference between that and knetworkmanager?03:44
Biovorebeg1689: ^ you have that?03:44
Biovorenot sure.. but this howto show both..03:44
Biovoremight just be a virtual package..03:44
usr001VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Grap03:44
usr001hics Controller (rev 02)03:44
Dr_willisI know very little of the intel chips.. so cant help ya much more then say check the wiki/forums.. others in here may know more03:45
Biovore82865 is a northbridge chip for P4's03:46
Biovorethe AGP on that should work with the intel i8xx agp driver03:46
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hellcattravalright03:46
Biovorevideo should work in X as well.. kinda tricky to setup as well..03:47
Dr_willisthats a rather low end video card Biovore ?03:47
Biovoreyes...03:47
hellcattravthink you could help get me on my network?03:47
Biovorei800 series onboard video03:47
Dr_willisick - i had an i810 Years ago. :)03:47
Dr_willisi hope its better then that.03:47
Biovoreyup same thing..03:47
StarenInstallation went perfectly, but now I'm having wireless problems... It apparently recognizes my card because it can see the wireless network, but it says "connection failed" when I attempt to connect.03:47
Biovorebut intell opensourced them.. so it should work better these days..03:48
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Dr_willisi mean 'power' wise - that thing was worse then even the worse nvidia i could find. :)03:48
hellcattravany idea?03:48
usr001I found this: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&ProductID=1044&DwnldID=12330&strOSs=39&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng03:49
Biovorehellcattrav: what dose eth0 say for addr when you do a ifconfig?03:49
hellcattravlink encap ethernet03:49
StarenI can choose eth0 or wifi in the assistant...03:49
StarenThe wifi program that came with kubuntu I mean.03:50
Biovorehellcattrav: you don't see a 192.168.xxx.xxx number ?03:50
BiovoreStaren: yeah.. knetworkadmin works fine here03:50
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hellcattravnot for eth0 but for eth1 i see inet addr: 192.xxx.xx.xxx03:51
StarenI seem to be using wlassistant, I see there's a bug...03:52
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beg1689why cant it just work03:52
beg1689WHY03:52
beg1689what am i missing?03:52
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beg1689http://rafb.net/p/HUNe4Z72.html03:53
Biovorebeg1689: it works as root though?03:53
beg1689not anymore03:53
beg1689getting it to work is the exception to the rule03:53
beg1689look at my paste03:53
beg1689what else am i missing?03:53
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Biovorebeg1689: hmm looks like your using the wireless now..03:54
beg1689no03:54
beg1689that was 2 minutes ago03:54
beg1689i got all those settings, but no internet03:54
hellcattravok so what now?03:54
StarenTyping "sudo ifup wlan0" didn't work, it gave a bunch of errors.03:54
Starenis there any way to get a fixed version of wlassistant?03:54
beg1689so i had to switch back to LAN03:54
BiovoreStaren: apt-get install knetwork-manager03:55
beg1689ugh03:55
beg1689if wlassistant actually worked i would like it much more than that03:55
hellcattravif it worked03:55
beg1689right now i am indifferent, nothing works03:55
beg1689what a waste of an hour03:56
pfein_beg1689: I'll second knetwork-manager.03:56
Dr_willissounds about like my last fighting with wireless networking...03:56
jtmoneyyeah, knetworkmanager is the best by far03:56
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BiovoreI had this issue with it when I set it up.. but I forgot what I did...03:57
beg1689forget the gui, how would i do it from a console03:57
usr001For some reason, seems that all packages are installed already03:57
beg1689lok at my paste03:57
beg1689http://rafb.net/p/HUNe4Z72.html03:57
pfein_though you need to comment out everything execept lo from /etc/network/interfaces & reboot03:57
Starenit didn't work, switching to that comp.03:57
beg1689what else am i missing? why doesnt it work?03:57
hellcattravcheers folks I'm getting some shut eye03:57
usr001the guy who changed the motherboard did the installation03:57
Biovorebeg1689: that paste shows you using eth1 (wireless interface)03:57
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beg1689that paste shows the state of a machine with non-working internet03:58
pfein_any EVDO users btw?03:58
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usr0012d driver, drm module and 3d GL03:58
usr001:D03:58
Biovorebeg1689: you using that machine right now?03:58
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StarenOkay, I'm on the linux comp now.03:59
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StarenEven when I typed "sudo apt-get install knetwork-manager" it said it couldn't find the package.03:59
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Biovoreapt-get install knetworkmanager04:00
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beg1689same machine no trace of eth104:00
beg1689im not stupid04:00
StarenE: Couldn't find package knetworkmanager04:00
beg1689theres no dash04:00
jtmoneydoes anyone know if the samba client is not compatible with vista?04:00
beg1689finds it for me04:00
Biovorejtmoney: it is..04:01
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jtmoneyi can see the shares, have the correct login/password/case, but it won't authenticate me04:01
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Starenscott@R40:~$ sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager04:01
StarenReading package lists... Done04:01
StarenBuilding dependency tree04:01
StarenReading state information... Done04:01
StarenE: Couldn't find package knetworkmanager04:01
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Biovorejtmoney: vista also now knows what a symlink is..  YAY microsoft.. good boy.. only 20 years in the past with that one..04:01
shivMy computer goes to sleep as soon as I log in to kde :(04:01
jtmoneyheh04:01
usr001you may need to add the URLS for the universe, multiverse, etc04:02
StarenHow do I do that?04:02
Biovorebeg1689: what dose iwconfig and ifconfig do now?04:02
usr001i just know how to do that in kde04:03
beg1689iwconfig shows the same thing04:03
usr001you have to open the adept04:03
beg1689ifconfig shows eth0 with an ip, but eth1 with no ip04:03
Starenadept?04:03
StarenI am using KDE.04:03
beg1689(using just ifconfig, not -a)04:03
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usr001yes, adept is a package manager for kubuntu04:04
Biovorebeg1689: if the interface isn't configured it won't show up with out -a04:04
beg1689i use synaptic04:04
Starenbash doesn't recognize command adept.04:04
beg1689i said without -a04:04
Dr_willis!find adept04:05
ubotuFound: adept, adept-batch, adept-common, adept-installer, adept-manager (and 2 others)04:05
beg1689so nobody here can help me?04:05
jtmoneyBiovore: apparently i'm not the only one who cannot connect to vista shares04:05
usr001it's in the K menu04:05
jtmoneyhttp://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=12810404:05
Biovorejtmoney: it works here04:05
Biovoreand thats with dapper as the server..04:05
Starenconversation with su failed.04:05
usr001K menu >  System04:05
jtmoneyno no, i want to access a vista share04:06
jtmoneyi.e. vista is the server04:06
beg1689i can get an ip from dhcp but it still doesnt work04:06
Starenit asks "run as root - KDE su", I put in my password, and it says "conversation with su failed"04:06
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Dr_willisStaren,  What are you typing in exactly?04:07
StarenK menu, system, adept package manager04:07
usr001he's openning Adept. It is in kde04:07
usr001it asks for a password04:08
StarenIt asks for my password. I type in the password and hit enter, and it saus "conversation with su failed"04:08
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StarenIf it's a single-user system, the only password should be mine, right?04:08
beg1689yes04:08
beg1689never seen that error04:09
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usr001me neither04:09
beg1689use synaptic :)04:09
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Starenusing sudo to run it instead of kdesu worked.04:09
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usr001did you open adept?04:10
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StarenI can't find the package knetworkmanager, just knetworkconf which it says is installed.04:10
StarenHow do I add repositories?04:11
BiovoreStaren: might need to have universe enable..04:11
BiovoreStaren: /etc/apt/sources.list04:11
Biovoreuncomment the entries for universe04:11
usr001in the adept menu there's an option to manage04:11
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BiovoreStaren: then run apt-get update04:11
Nothingwhy can't I join #kubuntu-offtopic?04:12
StarenHow do I uncomment?04:12
Nothinganyway, I typed /join #kubuntu-offtopic and nothing happened04:12
NothingI'm drunk, so that may be the reason...04:12
Nothingheh heh heh04:12
Starenfound it04:12
Nothinghmm04:12
BiovoreNothing: need to be registered with server to join channel?04:12
Starenisn;'t there another repository called multiverse? DO I need that?04:12
usr001i guess you uncomment by just clickng04:12
NothingI'm registered as underdog500404:12
BiovoreStaren: yup..04:12
BiovoreNothing: I can join it just fine..04:13
BluesKajuncomment is deleting the # in front of the deb...'04:13
Nothinghmmm04:13
NothingI shouldn't be nothing...I am someone04:13
Nothingunderdog5004...drunk...oh man04:13
usr001right-clicking04:13
Starenit seems to be getting the headers now...04:13
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underdog5004there we go04:14
Stareninstalling knetworkmanager.04:14
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underdog5004not bad for being totally wasted04:14
underdog5004sorry about that outburst, ops04:14
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usr001nice04:16
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jetsaredimanyone know where to get the new amarok 1.4.5 from?04:17
Biovorejetsaredim: subversion04:17
Biovoreyou have to build it04:17
Admiral_Chicagothere is a a stable version released for edgy04:17
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StarenI can't find akode-mpeg in universe.04:18
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jetsaredimyea - I thought that when it was posted on the front page of kubuntu.com that meant it was available somewhere04:18
mshade!compile kernel04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
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mshade!recompile04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recompile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
mart81jetsaredim: kubuntu.org should have the information for that04:18
mshade!recompile kernel04:18
nestorhola a todos soy nuevo en el tema de kubuntu podrian enviarme informacion04:18
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juano__!wiki04:19
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation04:19
mshade!es |nestor04:19
ubotunestor: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:19
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juano__!wiki | nestor04:19
ubotunestor: please see above04:19
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nestorgracias04:20
mshadede nada04:20
mshadehablo pequito espanol, pero no puedo entender todo :)04:21
Admiral_Chicago!es | mshade04:21
ubotumshade: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:21
Admiral_Chicagooh nvm04:21
mshadeAdmiral_Chicago: LOL :)04:22
mart81well, i predicted it, kde-look.org gone down04:22
Admiral_Chicagomshade: i realize I didn't read up but I just woke up from a nap04:22
Starenis xmms a gnome only thing?04:23
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Admiral_ChicagoStaren: no, it works on KDE as well afaik04:23
usr001is there any portuguese hep too?04:23
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Xlylithhello all.... i wonder how to report bug in Kubuntu, anybody can help me?04:23
usr001help04:23
kyle_hell04:23
kyle_p04:23
kyle_for sho04:24
kyle_is anyone there04:24
krilleyes?04:24
usr001hello04:24
XlylithI noticed a strange behaviour in gwenview....04:24
kyle_cool04:24
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Admiral_Chicagousr001: yes, let me find a link04:24
usr001thnkx04:24
Admiral_Chicago!pt | usr00104:24
ubotuusr001: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:24
usr001nice04:25
Xlylithit only display image files even when I select all files from drop-down menu04:25
rookie1_1998just can't get wireless to work consistently04:25
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rookie1_1998even when wireless manager reports excellent link quality04:25
rookie1_1998just won't connect04:26
StarenI crashed xmms and now it won't go away ;_;04:26
rookie1_1998s/manager/assistant/04:26
Starenrookie: Wireless manager is broken. Get knetworkmanager.04:26
BiovoreStaren: ps ax | grep xmms04:26
BiovoreStaren: or killall xmms04:26
BiovoreStaren: in a console04:26
Starenah, thanks.04:27
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rookie1_1998i ll give it a try04:27
StarenHow do I mount the winxp partition?04:27
Dr_willisHmm.. testing out Virtualbox.. anyone recall how to get out of fullscreen mode?04:28
usr001i started the second life and got errors04:28
usr001Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:28
usr001Xlib: No protocol specified04:28
usr001now my video is weird04:28
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Dr_willisyou ran the game as the user? oir as root?04:29
usr001root04:29
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usr001my fonts are failed now04:29
Dr_willisthats why04:29
Dr_willisroot dosent have permission to have a program display on the X display04:29
Dr_willisunless you use gksu, or kdesu, but whatever they are called..04:30
Dr_willistheres no need to install/run the game as root either.04:30
usr001now i run as user04:30
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usr001and got a window saying "window creation error"04:31
kyle_Anyone know a good windows help channel?04:31
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jarnIs there any way to play .m4p files in Linux?04:31
usr001X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16804:31
usr001  Major opcode:  14504:31
usr001  Minor opcode:  304:31
usr001  Resource id:  0x004:31
usr001Failed to open device04:31
Dr_williskyle_,  thats a scary idea04:31
Dr_willisusr001,  thats just a warning about the wacom tablet in the xorg.conf04:32
kyle_yah i know, i just replaced my mobo, and when i try to boot windows i get a "vitual memory" error and it restarts04:32
Dr_williskyle_,  that sounds like some bad ram on the mb.04:32
Dr_willisor somthing similer wrong.04:32
usr001what can i do about that?04:32
kyle_i put in a new mobo, cpu, and 1 stick of ram04:32
StarenHow do I mount the winxp partition?04:32
kyle_im running linux fine though...04:33
Dr_willisusr001,  the 'device 168' error is fixable.. but its JUST a warning...04:33
Admiral_Chicagorun a memtest kyle_ , that will help hiagnos the problem04:33
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Dr_willisHelp Diagnose also.  :)04:33
usr001the program isn working anyway04:33
Biovorememtest is you friend!!!04:33
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Dr_willisusr001,  it works for me on Edgy,  with my nvidia card04:34
kyle_one bad ram stick would stop windows from running, but not linux?04:34
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usr001what do i do?04:34
Biovorekyle_: could be bad ram..   I have 3 box's with nvidia cards and they all run kubuntu just fine..04:34
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usr001my video colours are all scrambled now04:35
kyle_i think its just the change in mobo and stuff is throwing windows xp off on boot04:35
usr001i'll restart the X server04:35
kyle_im gonna run a memtest and come back04:36
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usr01X server restarted04:37
SlynderdaleHmm, where can I get Gaim Beta 6 for Kubuntu?04:37
Biovoreusr01: u using the nvidia driver or the opensource nv driver..04:37
usr01i don't have a nvidia card04:38
usr01it's an intel onboard chipset04:38
XlylithHello? Is there anybody who uses gwenview here?04:38
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Dr_willisSlynderdale,  could use the source.. or check those autopackage, or klick sites04:39
usr01i restarted the X server, but it still not working04:39
usr01at least it's not scrambling the video again04:39
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Admiral_ChicagoXlylith: #ubuntu-bugs is probably the place to go04:40
usr01but i still get an error message and the program does not ipen04:40
usr01open04:40
Admiral_ChicagoXlylith: there may be a wait though04:40
XlylithAdmiral_Chicago: thanks, ill try there04:40
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dwidmannXylith: http://www.launchpad.net <-- Ubuntu bug reporting; http://bugs.kde.org <-- KDE upstream bug reporting04:41
_greywolfgood evening; I'm just getting into linux for the first time and have (apparently, from the looks of what I get from the boot CD compared to the FAQs online) run into a problem04:42
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dwidmann* Xlylith04:42
_greywolfIs there anyone that could help me sort this out?04:42
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Dr_willis_greywolf,  depenmds on the problem. we dont have esp...  whats the problem?04:43
_greywolfheh04:43
dwidmannDr_willis: you sure we don't, darn. Another fantasy shot down04:44
Biovorelol04:44
Dr_willisdwidmann,  we got msg and pms, but no esp04:44
Xlylithdwidmann: yes...04:44
_greywolfWell, I burned the ISO onto a CD, ran the checker and the CD turned out fine, so there aren't any problems related to corrupted files or anything. Whenever I choose the first option on the list from the boot menu, it seems like I'm supposed to get into an install program after Kubuntu loads, but I end up getting into a console-style interface04:45
jhutchins_greywolf: Try passing the noapic option at bootup.04:45
jhutchinsOh, an actual problem definition...04:45
Xlylithdwidmann: I noticed its in Bug #6324904:45
StarenSo how do I mount my ntfs partition?04:45
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume04:45
jhutchinsStaren: NTFS is a problem, because Microsoft made subtle changes in a few versions of it.04:46
Dr_willisStaren,  edit your fstab file. and add the proper entry.. or manually mount them.. OR it depends on what you really want to do.04:46
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Xlylithdwidmann: nobody took it yet, though04:46
Dr_willis!ntfs04:46
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:46
_greywolfI looked at a few faqs and it seems like Kubuntu is supposed to boot into a GUI that guides me through the setup process, not lead me to a command prompt04:46
jhutchinsStaren: The chaneges comply with Microsoft's secret definition of NTFS, but they aren't apparent to reverse engineering.04:46
Dr_willis_greywolf,  the live cd's go to a desktop. the alternative isntall cd - use a text based installer..04:46
dwidmannXlylith: may as well be patient ... the KDE devs do seem to be pretty busy04:46
Dr_willis_greywolf,  if the live cd is booting to the shell/console.. then for some reason its not seeing your video correctly04:47
jhutchinsStaren: Unfortunately, it's like heart disease, the first symptom of incompatibilty is total loss of the NTFS partition.04:47
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_greywolfI am running an ATI video card; I've heard that they're somewhat unstable - is that the problem?04:47
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Dr_willis_greywolf,  depends.. My ati cards worked decently well04:47
_greywolfBecause I could probably just disconnect my monitor from that and plug it straight into the computer04:47
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jhutchinsjhutchins: Therefore there is a great deal of "don't go there" FUD on the net.04:47
aseigoXlylith: why would it show anything besides image files/04:48
jhutchinsOh, talking to myself.04:48
Dr_willis_greywolf,  the fact you have 2 video cards MAY be a bigger issue04:48
aseigoXlylith: it's an image viewer not a file manager04:48
jhutchinsStaren:  Therefore there is a great deal of "don't go there" FUD on the net.04:48
_greywolfah, that might be it04:48
x04ty29erDr_willis: I highly doubt it04:48
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Dr_willis_greywolf,  you got the onboard video  disabled?04:48
Xlylithaseigo: it used to do that04:48
x04ty29erunless its an overheat thing04:48
jhutchinsStaren:  90+% of the time nothing will go wrong.04:48
_greywolfum, I don't think so04:48
Dr_willisx04ty29er,  you would not belive the oddities ive seen :)04:48
x04ty29erlol04:48
jhutchinsStaren: 1% of the time you will loose the partition.04:48
Xlylithaseigo: before, I could use it to browse image in zip files04:48
Dr_willisx04ty29er,   i 'lost' my X once...  on my nvidia system.. but sound was playing (the gdm startup sound)  console worked.. THEN i turned on the tv... There was the X display.04:49
Dr_willis:)04:49
jhutchinsStaren: Sorry, no response from you, I'm going back down stairs.04:49
_greywolfI only switched my monitor onto the video card in the windows Display Properties settings tab04:49
Dr_willis_greywolf,  you may want to disable that video card in the bios - just to be safe04:50
aseigoXlylith: hm. so you'd want it to show archives as well as images ... that makes sense i suppose04:50
Starendo I want package ntfs-3g, ntfs-3g0, or something else?04:50
_greywolfok I'll do that04:50
Dr_willisStaren,  you dont NEED those unless you want to write to ntfs04:50
_greywolfI may be back... >_>04:50
Xlylithaseigo: I believe it worked in dapper, or at least breezy04:50
_greywolfwe'll see04:50
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_greywolfthanks, though04:50
StarenAh.04:51
usr01this damm second life does not support my video card04:51
Starensecond life doesn't support my vidcard... but the linux client runs anyway and works! Ha!04:51
Dr_willisusr01,  id be very suprised if any games worked well on that video card.04:51
usr01i have the openGL installed correctly04:51
SlynderdaleHmm, whats best, the default drivers included in Kubuntu or Nvidia drivers?04:51
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Dr_willisSlynderdale,  if you got a nvidia card that uses the nvidia drivers.. use them04:51
StarenI see...04:52
Dr_willissome of the older cards work fine with the nv drivers04:52
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SlynderdaleDr_willis: Its an old computer with a Nvidia TNT2 card04:52
Dr_willisSlynderdale,  read that !nvidia factoid/site04:52
Dr_willisit lists them04:52
Dr_willis!nvidia04:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:52
Xlylithaseigo: perhaps i need to test it in other kde-centric distro just to make sure whether its a distro problem or gwenviews04:52
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usr01Why does it have to be Nvidia?04:53
StarenThanks a bunch for your help, everyone!04:53
adydasWhat package is needed to be installed for qt ? Lib qt? qt-dev ?04:53
dwidmannXlylith: I just noticed it now that you mentioned it ..... I think I'll fetch the source and find out04:53
StarenI'm going to see if I can make wireless work.04:53
Dr_willis-dev stuff  is developer files.04:53
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usr01Isn't the OpenGl that makes the connection btween the game and the video card?04:53
adydasdo i need dev stuff? its for a make xconfig04:54
Dr_willisadydas,  differnet programs.. need different dev packages.. highly possible you do04:54
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adydasits to compile a kernel using make xconfig04:54
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Dr_williscompiling source - yes :) but a kernel.. perhaps not.. try it and see04:54
dwidmannI forget what the package you need was :\04:55
Dr_willisYou did isntall the 'build essential' package?04:55
redcardMan.  This is so nice.04:55
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dwidmannMy guess is on libqt3-mt-dev though adydas04:56
redcardOh.. is there any KDE based TV viewing / recording program?04:56
redcardI have a wintv card..04:56
Dr_willis!find starvoyager04:57
ubotuFound: starvoyager, starvoyager-data04:57
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adydasit wants it04:57
adydas/usr/src/linux-2.6.20# make xconfig04:57
adydas  CHECK   qt04:57
adydas*04:57
adydas* Unable to find the QT installation04:57
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Dr_willisadydas,  id just fire up the  package manager and search for qt and install all the -dev stuff i can find. :)04:58
adydasduh why didnt i think of that04:58
Dr_willisactually dosent the make xconfig use the qt gui? theres alternatives to that I thought04:58
Dr_willis!kernel04:59
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:59
redcardput it in a terminal and do make menuconfig04:59
redcardIt'll use ncurses04:59
SlynderdaleHow do you find out what version of linux you have?04:59
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Dr_willisSlynderdale,  i use 'uname -a'04:59
redcardSlynderdale: uname -a  ;cat /etc/version04:59
adydaswasnt it uname -r?04:59
adydasnever mind me tho04:59
redcardExcept ubuntu doesn' have an /etc/version05:00
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chavocat /etc/issue will tell you the release name05:01
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dwidmannadydas: take a look at this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/50394-error-make-xconfig.html05:01
draikWhat is the lib package that will let me play quicktime?05:01
adydasis it within the .config you can change the name of the kernel from 2.6.17-generic to somthing else, or via grub05:01
dwidmanndr_willis: I believe the alternatives are a cli base menu (menuconfig), or an ncurses (text mode?) interface05:02
Dr_willisthe grub names have very little to do with much.. they just normally use the version #'s05:02
redcarddwidmann: menuconfig will do the ncurses interface on kernel builds05:03
redcardTho.. I would wonder why you're doing a kernel build..05:03
dwidmannSee, I'd never bothered with anything other than the qt config redcard05:03
Dr_willisredcard,  i know better then to even ask that. :)05:03
Dr_willisheh heh05:03
dwidmannAnd that was a long time ago, just to prove that I could.05:03
Slynderdalenvidia-glx-legacy isn't showing up but nvidia-glx does :/05:03
Dr_willis!info nvidia-glx-legacy05:04
ubotunvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.17.7-11.1 (edgy), package size 2998 kB, installed size 9832 kB05:04
redcardDr_willis: *grins* I mean, a long time ago in a galaxy far away (like.. linux 1.0.28 and earlier..) the builds were actually almost necessary.05:04
Dr_willisenable the 'multiverse' repository?05:04
Dr_willisredcard,  yep.. been there done that05:04
redcardThat sucked.  Waiting an hour and a half plus for the kernel to compile on your 486-33 and then realizing, oh crap, you put the wrong thing in configure for your sound card.05:04
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dwidmannredcard: ouch05:05
Dr_willisredcard,  or frogot to put ext2 filesystem in the kernel..05:05
Dr_willisor ide support05:05
redcardHahaha :)\05:05
redcardDid that only once :)05:05
adydasredcard: Nvidia drivers out of date from the kernel version i have05:05
redcardadydas: I would recommend Envy05:05
adydasim going to guess updateing the kernel will match the Nvidia driver and solve the problem05:05
dwidmannIndeed05:05
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dwidmann!nvidia905:05
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable05:05
dwidmann!envy05:06
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia05:06
mem_!sound05:06
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:06
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redcardI use beryl, but.. before that, Envy was a nice script..05:06
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kyle_not the memory, memory is fine05:10
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kyle_i need to find a way to set the vitual memory or paging file without being in windows :(05:10
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kyle_its a common problem, but i did the reinstall to fix it and it still dont work05:14
naught101why does konqueror try to open web pages with firefox? why can't it open it itself?05:15
Biovorenaught101: did you set firefox as the default webrowser or something?05:15
naught101yeah... but I'm opening the pages from within konqueror, from another webpage05:15
kyle_anyone got any ideas to help me get this booted?05:15
naught101I go here: http://www.nusa.org.au/ , click on the link, and it asks me if I want to open it in firefox05:16
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Biovorehttp://www.nusa.org.au/cms/  <-- works here05:17
dwidmannThat's just the way Konqueror behaves05:17
naught101yeah. doesn't here05:17
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naught101it's ridiculous05:17
dwidmannif you set something else to the default for that mime type, that's what it will do05:17
DummyThatKnowsNacan someone please give me a hand getting Mysql to start05:17
kyle_its because you have firefox set as the default05:17
naught101arrgh...05:18
astroboy"/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off" .. anyone remember the solution .. ?05:18
Biovoreastroboy: thats called Fubared05:18
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dwidmannThe better way is to leave the mimetype alone, and set it in kcontrol -> KDE components -> Default Applications -> Web browser05:18
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naught101so there's NO way to have FF as kde's default browser, and still have functional browsing in konqueror?05:18
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raylu? what's disfunctional about konqueror right now?05:19
usr01witch one is best? mesa-glide3 or mesa-dri05:19
Dr_willisnever noticed..05:19
x04ty29ermy konqueror is fine05:19
x04ty29erand FF is my default web browser05:19
rayluSame here.05:19
Dr_willisi thought it launched FF for the urls. and kept konq for the file manager05:19
x04ty29erone sec05:20
Branded_Atommine is too, ff for http, konqueror for file manager05:20
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rayluwhois ubotu05:20
rayluack05:20
dwidmannOpera for http here, Konqueror for file manager, or sometimes web browser05:20
x04ty29ernope05:20
Biovore!ubotu05:20
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:20
dwidmann!bot | raylu05:20
uboturaylu: please see above05:20
x04ty29erif i enter a url in konqueror05:20
x04ty29erit still goes to it in konqueror05:20
raylui thought ubotu would be in some bot channel05:20
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dwidmannx04ty29er: I think the only occasion where it wouldn't would be if you screwed with the html mimetype05:21
naught101x04ty29er: yeah, same here, but if I click a link (to another page), it tries to download it05:21
naught101or open it with FF05:21
x04ty29erum05:22
x04ty29erone sec05:22
naught101my HTML mimetypes still have konqueror at the top of the list05:22
naught101that is, text/html and...05:22
dwidmannHmm, interesting05:22
x04ty29ercheck konqueror settings05:22
naught101xhtml/xml/html05:23
naught101where?05:23
x04ty29eryou may have it opening links in an external app05:23
x04ty29ersettings05:23
Biovorethats what I think he has.. his example works fine here..05:23
x04ty29erconfigure konqueror05:23
dsmith_how many ppl run raid on thier *nix boxes?05:23
x04ty29ernot me :)05:23
BiovoreI have a box with a real raid controller on it..05:24
Biovoreand I had a box that ran mdadm05:24
Biovore(software raid 5)05:24
dsmith_mdadm?05:24
dsmith_oh05:24
naught101ahh... ok. I think I may have figured it. system mietypes set correctly, my user mimetypes buggered...05:24
dsmith_i dont like software raid05:24
Biovoreme neather.. thats why I have a hardware raid controller now :-P05:24
dsmith_:P05:24
dsmith_I like 3ware05:24
Biovoreacera05:25
naught101yay! fixed! thanks for the help x04ty29er and others05:25
Dr_willisif i type a url into konqueror - i think i would want it to stay in koqueror...05:25
Biovorebasicly full opensourced drivers (unlike 3ware and adaptec)05:25
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dsmith_upgrading dapper to edgy05:26
dsmith_on this machine05:26
dsmith_has anyone been using 7.04 yet?05:27
Biovoredsmith_: its kinda buggy still05:30
dwidmanndsmith: I took a peak, didn't see anything that stood out really05:30
phobiacI've got a wireless card issue, kubuntu didn't install the drivers for my wireless card. As far as I can tell from the Gateway website the card is a broadcom 802.11b/g PCI wireless lan card.05:30
redcardThe autosuggest codecs is neat05:30
phobiacI'm unsure as to where to look for the driver.05:30
dsmith_hmmmm05:31
phobiac!wireless05:31
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:31
Dr_willisthe exact chipset  is the info ya shoudl findout05:31
dsmith_6.06 vs 6.10 is huge difference05:31
Dr_willisuse 'lspci' to see what its seen as.05:31
dsmith_wondering if they are suffering from feature creep..05:32
phobiacYeah, I found the docs. I'll see if they can help. Thank you.05:32
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redcardI suspect I'll go to 7.0405:33
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phobiacWell that's great. Kubuntu recognizes the hardware, and the interface is up, but iwconfig says there are no connections.05:36
Dr_willisthe more i mess with wireless... the more i run wires05:36
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phobiacWhat I've noticed is that in system settings>network settins my wireless card isn't enabled, and I can't enable it (even after getting root rights).05:37
x04ty29erlol05:37
phobiacKnetworkmanager also refuses to acknowledge the card.05:37
phobiacDr_willis: I usually use wires too. It's faster and easier, but it's nice to have the ability to move around if need be.05:38
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cpk1i havent run into any problems with ndiswrapper05:39
dsmith_lol...Dr_Willis05:39
cpk1although i havent tried my desktop wireless yet05:39
cpk1i think that one is a little funky05:39
rayluIsn't there a command to enable a wireless device?05:39
dsmith_Phobiac: just make longer wires05:39
Xlylithdwidmann: I wonder how to confirm a bug in launchpad....05:39
cpk1yeah ifup wlan0 (or whatever its logical name is)05:40
Xlylithdwidmann: I have add my comment there, but I couldn find a way to make the bug status confirmed05:40
phobiacdsmith: It's hard to find a wire that can go all around a two story house :P05:41
rayluoooh. how do I get a list of network devices' logical names?05:41
cpk1lshw05:41
dsmith_phobiac: lol, I hear ya05:42
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Dr_willislots of LONG wires05:42
Biovoredon't choke your self with them :-P05:42
Dr_willistoo bad that power-line-network stuff dident really take off.05:42
dsmith_lol05:42
phobiacHmm, so my wireless connection is eth1. sudo ifup eth1 gives me this: ifup: interface eth1 already configured05:42
BiovoreBPL is evil05:42
Dr_willisthenya could just have network working when ya plug in the pc05:42
plackslayer_Has anyone here tried using a linksys WRE54G as a wired access point to a wireless network?05:43
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Biovoreplackslayer_: It should work.. that device runs a linux.. and people have hacked into it :-P05:43
dsmith_when we built the office05:43
rayluisn't ifup the same as ifconfig up?05:43
cpk1so bring it down then up05:43
Biovoremaybe...05:43
dsmith_I had them install 4 cable ports in every room05:43
dsmith_I just filled a 24 port Netgear switch05:44
dsmith_ok... back to kubuntu05:44
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rayluifdown dsmith_ kekekekeke ok =\05:44
dsmith_raylu: ?05:44
raylunothing. im just happy that i dont have to use a gui to disable my eth devices05:45
dsmith_:)05:45
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kaihey everybody05:46
dsmith_hey05:47
kaiJucato: Do you use ie4Linux or Firefoe w/ wine?05:47
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rayluFirefox natively05:47
dsmith_firefox will install on *nix05:47
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dsmith_I have installed ie4linux, but never resort to it05:48
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kaiI know that, im tryin tog et plugin support, which I almost found in firefox  with wine05:48
phobiac_Hmm, knetworkmanager still doesn't recognize it.05:48
kaiFor example Speedtest.net05:48
dsmith_which plugin?05:48
rayluFor which plugin?05:48
dsmith_use speakeasy05:48
dsmith_flash?/05:48
raylu!speakeasy05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about speakeasy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
dsmith_lol05:48
rayluT.T05:48
rayluwhat is it?05:49
kaiThe Macromedia05:49
dsmith_oh flash05:49
dsmith_install flash 905:49
kaiIm also wanting to get the qt and mpg support05:49
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dsmith_I used automatix205:49
kaiI did that, my opera still doesnt work w/ flash05:49
dsmith_for thoses I believe05:49
kaiidk why05:49
dsmith_i tired opera once05:50
dsmith_*gasp*05:50
vegasanybody have a link for a how-to on vmware?05:50
cpk1phobiac_: is there some reason you need to use knetworkmanager?05:50
kaiI like it, I have the 'motif' plugins and everything but I still can't get macro stuff to work05:50
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dsmith_raylu: Speakeasy provides a bandwidth flash speed test05:50
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kyle_arrg05:50
kyle_god damn windows!!!05:50
rayluis it online?05:51
dsmith_yea05:51
dsmith_you can pick your servers05:51
phobiac_cpk1: No reason I have to, I can use anything else. But nothing is recognizing that my wireless card is (apparently) working.05:51
dsmith_wash, dc; new york, etc..05:51
mem_I'm still having trouble with my sound.. I tried running through the suggestions given through "!Sound". I've installed/configured ALSA as far as I know. Removing alsa-base removes ubuntu-minimal which really pissed everything off ... I've had the sound working once.. and I can't get it up again. Anyone have any suggestions... sound card is SiS 7012 AC'97 Alsa recognises it as intel8x005:51
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phobiac_Wireless Assitant Manager doesn't either05:51
cpk1phobiac_: iwlist scan do anything?05:51
dsmith_whats wrong with windows?05:51
dsmith_:)05:51
mem_I've also given user/group access to Audio.05:51
dsmith_oh I know... whats right with it, huh?05:51
phobiac_eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.05:52
kyle_Anyone possibly wanna help me 1 on 1 with a windows problem i got?05:53
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mem_Whatcha got Kyle.. I'm probably useless.. but still05:53
cpk1mem_: I have an sis 7012 works with no setup at all05:53
kyle_well, i just replaced my mobo, cpu and got a new ram stick05:53
phobiac_kyle: You should really ask in #windows, but I don't mind taking a crack at helping.05:53
cpk1its ##windows05:53
kyle_and when i boot up, it goes into windows, but right before it all loads, i get a virtual memory or pagefile error05:54
greywolfWell, I tried multiple ways of disabling my integrated video card, even in the BIOS (which doesn't have an option to disable it), but to no avail - I tried forgetting about my ATI card and just sticking with the default graphics card, but my monitor didn't display anything (I guess it must be stuck on my ATI card). Any suggestions?05:54
phobiac_Oh yeah, the extra #.05:54
kyle_i did the windows repair and everything05:54
mem_cpk1 Mine didn't work from install, all 6 times I've installed it05:54
greywolfFor reference, my installation never gets to this screen: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9720/w2u218vo.png (using the Kubuntu cd, of course, not Ubuntu)05:55
cpk1mem_: you checked the sound levels? =)05:55
mem_I had it working after 2 days of mucking around.. then I tried to install Beryl but found out the SiS760 AGP card won't do something about 3d acceloration.. and lost sound after installing it again05:55
kyle_and my windows restarts05:55
mem_I've ran alsamixer and everything is unmuted05:55
mem_kyle_ you might want to check the manufacturer of the mobo to see if they have any known bugs05:55
cpk1mem_: are you using the digital out? getting the digital to work sometimes can be funky05:56
mem_umm, I'm not digital05:56
mem_At least I don't think so >.>05:56
andres_whoy helps me? as I Install beryl in my kubuntu edgy?05:56
cpk1the digital out is one coaxial plug, you would probably know if you were using it =P05:56
mem_andres_ the beryl wikipedia entry is very helpful. I'm 1 week old linux user and I could follow it fine05:56
greywolfI get here just fine, however: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7134/w2u198sn.png - it's when I choose "Start Kubuntu" that it eventually runs into the command prompt and not the installation GUI that guides me through the process.05:56
mem_No, I'm on a laptop lol using analogue I assume05:57
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greywolfI've even tried "Start Kubuntu in safe graphics mode," but get the same result05:57
plackslayeris there an easy way to hook up a desktop to (wired) eth0 in my laptop and let it use (wireless) eth1 for internet access?05:58
mem_kyle_ there may also be an issue with one of your periphs. Is it OK without Mouse/Keyboard?  With my main desktop, if you move the mouse too soon before windows logs you in, I get a blue screen >.< stupid MSI05:58
andres_mem: can I install in my computer?05:58
phobiac_This is odd for me, I *think* my card is supported. It worked perfectly fine with no configuration the first i installed kubuntu.05:58
kyle_i dont get a blue screen at all05:59
kyle_it just gives me that error about virtual memory/ pagefile and then restarts05:59
mem_andres_ check here: http://www.beryl-project.org/ and here: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page05:59
mem_My bf has that problem when he types too quickly05:59
greywolfHelp? Anyone?05:59
phobiac_greywolf: What's the problem?06:00
mem_greywolf not familiar with ATI graphics06:00
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rayluOuch. BSOD for typing too fast or moving your mouse too early?06:00
greywolfphobiac: my installation doesn't lead me to the installation GUI: I get a command prompt instead06:01
mem_raylu yes, there are a lot worse problems we face with the MSI K9N Platinum SLI mobo.. it pains. I can't burn discs without it powering off.  We can't watch AVIs in full screen with SLI enabled or it powers off06:01
greywolfI get here just fine: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7134/w2u198sn.png06:01
greywolfBut I've never seen this before: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9720/w2u218vo.png06:02
mem_something wrong with a capacitor apparently.. completely annoying06:02
greywolfMuch less anything like this: http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7145/w2u228yf.png (which I'm pretty sure is supposed to happen)06:02
mem_but yea.. that's not my problem! I'm totally confused about my sound issue06:03
phobiac_greywolf: What version live CD is it?06:03
mem_My bf (played around with linux for yearss) says its a lost cause.. that I can't do it...  yet I've already had sound once!06:03
greywolfit's 6.1006:03
rayluHow are you testing your sound, mem_?06:03
phobiac_That's really odd, hmm.06:03
phobiac_What ATI card is it?06:03
underdog5004X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:04
underdog5004any ideas?06:04
greywolfa 925006:04
underdog5004is it my xorg.conf looking for a wacom device?06:04
mem_raylu: Just launching Amarok and playing the test ogg06:04
MuJunderdog5004: propably06:04
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raylumem_, is artsd running before you launch Amarok?06:05
underdog5004MuJ, bummer...oh welll06:05
mem_raylu: select enable sound in the system settings? That's selected..06:05
rayluHuh?06:05
MuJunderdog5004: it shouldn't matter06:05
phobiac_greywolf: You choose the option to load up kubuntu right?06:05
greywolfYeah06:05
mem_raylu: I don't know how to check how else artsd is running06:05
phobiac_Not insulting your intelligence, just checking.06:05
greywolfheh06:05
rayluWhat I'm getting at here is the fact that I use "killall artsd" sometimes before launching a program if it's sound isn't playing.06:06
phobiac_What happens after you choose it?06:06
mem_raylu: Giving it a go now06:06
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greywolfIt displays the boot-up splash screen kinda like the windows one, and then a bit of text flashes by too fast for me to read, then a bunch of text pops up followed by a command prompt06:07
greywolfI'm able to reboot by saying "sudo reboot"06:07
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greywolfBut when I say anything like "boot live" or "boot", it says it doesn't recognize the command "boot"06:07
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mem_raylu: I did killall artsd then tried to run a file, it still looks as though it is playing06:07
mem_raylu: If I try to play media while a terminal is running, it reports alsamixer is having a problem06:08
raylumem_, oh, so the issue isn't that kubuntu doesn't see the hardware?06:08
mem_raylu: I also installed alsa from the alsa-project site, but I also have the alsa stuff installed from the kubuntu package06:08
phobiac_greywolf: I haven't booted a kubuntu live CD in a few weeks now so my memeory is fuzzy. Do you have the option to boot in safe graphics mode like with ubuntu?06:08
phobiac_And if so did you try it?06:08
mem_raylu: when I run aplay -l it shows my device06:08
naught101anyone know why firefox/thunderbird's "restart" command doesn't work?06:08
greywolfyeah, I do, and I did try it with the same result06:08
mem_raylu: I can't remove alsa packages otherwise it removes the whole of kubuntu due to dependencies >.<06:09
phobiac_greyworlf: What about (if it can) checking the CD for defects?06:09
greywolfI did that to start out with, and it said it had 0 checksum errors06:09
phobiac_mem_: How did you install kubuntu?06:09
greywolf(which is probably a good thing ;)06:09
mem_phobiac: from the Kubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 Live CD downloaded a week ago06:10
phobiac_greywolf: Hmm, I have no idea past this point. Sorry :/06:10
greywolf:(06:10
greywolfI'll try the forums then06:10
greywolfthanks06:10
phobiac_mem_: How are you trying to uninstall alsa? apt-get or aptitude?06:10
phobiac_greywolf: Did you check google to see if anyone else has the issue?06:10
raylumem_, what about reinstalling them?06:11
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mem_phobiac_: apt-get through terminal which also removes the ubuntu-minimal then adept GUI which removes everything06:11
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greywolfsorta - I tried searching for kubuntu install problems but everything that came up seemed related to packages, and the ones that did involve installing the OS itself weren't my problem06:11
greywolfI'll check again though06:11
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phobiac_mem_: Have you used aptitude to install anything?06:12
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mem_raylu: I've reinstalled via Adept, apt-get and by installing the source from alsa-project.org ... I think I may have 2 versions of ALSA due to this06:12
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kyle_how can i access my windows drive in kubuntu?06:12
phobiac_greywolf: To narrow it down I'd add the ATI and the model number or whatever it's called to the search.06:12
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mem_phobiac_: my boyfriend did about 20 minutes ago06:12
raylukyle_, look under /media06:12
phobiac_It's possible it's not supported.06:13
greywolfok I will06:13
raylumem_, what does "which alsamixer" show?06:13
phobiac_mem_: That could be a part of your issue. Aptitude and apt-get don't mix well in my experience.06:13
mem_raylu: /usr/bin/alsamixer06:13
SlynderdaleI followed the instructions on the site to install the Nvidia Drivers on Kubuntu Edgy for the TNT2 series graphics card, it won't let me configure it. IT says command not found when I use sudo nvidia-xconfig06:13
mem_raylu: I don't think that's where I installed the drivers downloaded from ALSA-Project06:14
phobiac_mem_: Do you know if alsa was installed with aptitude?06:14
kyle_there is no drive in /media06:14
kyle_only cdrom and my firewire drive06:14
rayluSlynderdale, type nvidia and then tab twice06:14
raylukyle_, are you on a livecd?06:14
kyle_no06:14
mem_phobiac_: alsa was installed with kubuntu live cd, then reinstalled with adept a few times, and apt-get. Not with aptitude at all06:14
kyle_linux never shows my windows drive....06:15
raylukyle_, it may be under /dev/hda1,2,3,etc or /dev/sda1,2,3,etc but I'm not sure how this works.06:15
rayluWhat filesystem is your win drive?06:15
kyle_ntfsd06:15
kyle_ntfs*06:15
kyle_windows xp06:15
rayluo.0, then it should.06:15
Slynderdaleraylu: sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found06:15
phobiac_mem_: Hmm, odd. I remember I had a problem similar to this when I (stupidly) install kubuntu-desktop with aptitude. I then couldn't use apt-get to uninstall anything because it wanted to autoremove everything. :(06:15
mem_My bf has a problem where linux makes his windows drive hidden06:15
rayluSlynderdale, did you try nvidia and then tab twice?06:16
flaccid0shidden?06:16
Slynderdaleraylu: yEAP06:16
SlynderdaleYeap06:16
raylunothing showed up?06:16
SlynderdaleNope06:16
mem_phobiac_: Adept is still fine, installing, updating and removing various things. Its just that the alsa-base package installed by the kubuntu live cd has dependencies on everything. Its not predjudice about uninstalling its self06:16
rayluHm...no idea then. I thought maybe you had the command wrong. I've never used the Nvidia config stuff06:16
greywolfphobiac_: I think I found the problem, although I'm not sure - it looks like the 9250 isn't supported by ubuntu 6.1006:16
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phobiac_mem_: Hidden? What do you mean hidden?06:17
greywolfalthough does that really have an impact on the install of the OS itself?06:17
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phobiac_greywolf: No video card means pretty much no gui as far as I know06:17
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mem_phobiac_: this was months ago, I was just looking at kyle_'s problem. When he was installing debian with Lilo, his windows drive would be hidden ntfs not just ntfs06:17
kyle_yah so wth06:18
redcardSo.. what do people use for podcasts around here?06:18
mem_phobiac_: so you couldn't access that drive without modifying something in lilo.conf .. the partitions or something06:18
greywolfAh, wait - it seems that the drivers are out of date06:18
flaccid0sits not hidden when you mount it06:18
kyle_iv never been able to see my c:>windows06:18
kyle_in linux06:18
mem_it won't be called c windows?06:18
phobiac_greywolf: There may be hope06:18
greywolfDoes that mean that if I update the drivers in *windows* it will work?06:19
flaccid0s!mount06:19
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter06:19
raylukyle_, have you looked in /dev yet?06:19
phobiac_mem_: Give me a second to colect my thoughts06:19
flaccid0sshiz06:19
kyle_all that shows up is my cdrom drives and my firewire drive06:19
flaccid0s!ntfs06:19
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:19
raylu!ntfs-3g06:19
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)06:19
flaccid0s^^ that is what needs to be read to mount drives. a good read06:19
mem_kyle_ how long ago did you install ubuntu?06:19
raylumsg ubou fuse06:19
rayluack06:19
kyle_a bit ago06:20
mem_kyle_ an hour, a week?06:20
kyle_month or two06:20
kyle_maybe more06:20
kyle_why?06:20
mem_probably read the mount info just posted then06:20
phobiac_mem_: I don't know what the deal is with your dependency issuies with alsa. I've never had that problem happen with the live CD. Sorry. :/06:20
phobiac_But for ntfs partitions I would go with ntfs-3g like raylu said.06:21
rayluOn another note, why would reinstalling alsa drivers help?06:21
raylulol, I used ntfs-3g on ubotu to see what it was :P06:21
phobiac_I have to go. Bye guys.06:21
flaccid0sdepends if you wanna risk data loss with ntfs write...06:21
rayluI don't like the "use with caution," though06:21
greywolfthanks phobiac06:21
phobiac_raylu: Oh :P Whoever suggested it06:21
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phobiac_greywolf: Np, I hope you get the problem fixed06:21
phobiac_raylu: It works 100% fine for me.06:22
greywolfyeah, me too :P06:22
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rayluhm...I wonder how risky it actually is.06:22
phobiac_I have not had any issues at all, even moving over 4GB of mp3's from an ntfs partiton to an ext3.06:22
mem_raylu: I give up for today06:22
mem_Thanks for your help raylu & phobiac_06:22
rayluwait06:22
mem_OK..06:22
mem_:)06:22
raylu[23:21:05]  <raylu> On another note, why would reinstalling alsa drivers help?06:22
kyle_brb gonna delete my pagefile, see if that makes my windows boot06:22
flaccid0sjust because you havnt had a problem yet, doesn't mean you are not going to have a problem in the future..06:23
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phobiac_I really have to go now though, good luck everyone with whatever problems you're having! Night all.06:23
mem_I'm not sure what else to do.. I think I have 2 versions of alsa now, that are both trying to access the sound device. I can't remove the older version ebcause it came with the Kubuntu package and has dependency issues06:23
flaccid0scia006:23
rayluand where is the new version?06:24
flaccid0s!force06:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about force - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:24
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mem_raylu: /usr/src06:24
mem_raylu: the which alsamixer points to one in usr/bun06:24
mem_bin*06:24
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rayluHm...I'm not too sure either.06:25
mem_pain is watching your gf struggle with linux sound for HOURS :P <- BF06:25
flaccid0sbbl06:26
mem_my bf took over the keyboard...06:26
rayluHave you tried removing the one in /usr/src?06:26
mem_its valentines day... and I'm infront of my laptop working on linux06:26
flaccid0slinux still isn't easy for newbies. thats a fact that cannot be denied. you still have to stuff around.06:26
mem_raylu: usr src is the new version06:26
mem_maybe I should remove it and try to install it over the top of whats in usr bin (fromt he kubuntu disc)?06:26
rayluBut I think having only one would be better... and since which likes the other one06:27
ForgeAusflaccid, depends on what you need to do as a newbie :)06:27
rayluOr just don't touch the one in /usr/bin?06:27
ForgeAusfor some newbie who doesn't go tinkering it could be quite easy....06:27
mem_Its 4:30pm .. I'll try to remove the second in usr src, but the original one in usr bin didn't work anyway06:27
rayluForgeAus, how many linux newbies won't tinker?06:27
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mem_I should actually spend some of valetines day with him before he takes over the keyboard again though06:27
raylugmt time, o.006:27
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mem_+10 I'm in Syd Aus06:28
ForgeAusi dunno, I should do some tkinkering myself :)06:28
mem_+11 actually.. DST06:28
rayluo.0??06:28
mem_daylight savings time..06:28
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rayluOh...4:30 PM.06:28
mem_I'll give it a try later on. We were supposed to catch a movie today06:28
rayluOK06:29
mem_thanks for the info though. Will definitely give it a go.06:29
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mem_Have a happy V-day everyone06:29
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plackslayerok still looking into how to share the network to a desktop that is hooked into my laptop's ethernet port (eth0) and going out using the wireless (eth1),   Any help or howto's somewhere?06:39
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plackslayeranyone have any ideas?   All I can find through google are ways to setup my laptop as an access point for other wireless devices and thats the opposide direction I'm trying to go...06:46
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draikI can't play quicktime videos. How do I get the necessary plugins for that?06:51
Admiral_Chicago!quicktime06:51
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rayluhow do I send a signal to a process?07:01
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adydasIs there some with within unbuntu that makes things RO, ive edited resolv.conf numorus times as root and changed it, saved it and its been fine untill reboot and it seems rebooting resets it back to default from the installation :/07:04
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mshadeadydas: you have a static IP?07:06
mshadeadydas: or is it running dhclient ?07:06
adydasnope not static07:07
adydasand how do i check about dhclient ( i havent installed it )07:07
adydasok DHclient is going07:07
SolidSourcegood evening all07:07
raylunevermind, solved my problem07:08
raylukill -s signal pid07:08
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dettoaltrimentiis there a program for linux to graphically see how big different directories are on your hard drive?07:22
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Jucato!filelight | dettoaltrimenti07:22
ubotudettoaltrimenti: filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB07:22
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yuriydettoaltrimenti: in konqueror go to view mode> file size view07:25
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adydas!nvidia07:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:26
Jucatoyuriy: it's sort of hard to interpret those things... not to mention they're prone to crashes at times...07:26
adydas!api07:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about api - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:26
newtoeverythinganyone got any time to go through a grub problem with me?07:27
sparrhow can i check what filesystem a drive uses?07:27
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adydassparr checked the /etc/fstab file?07:27
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sparradydas: i want to know what it really is07:28
yuriyJucato: hmm i don't find it hard *shrug* and the only time it crashed for me was when i was trying to make it crash07:28
Jucatosparr: "mount" or "sudo fdisk -l"07:28
sparrJucato: its not mounted.  fdisk just lists partition types07:28
Jucatosparr: under the System column?07:29
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Jucatoa "drive" can have as many filesystems as it has partitions.07:30
sparrJucato: thats just the partition type07:30
sparrlets pretend you knew what i meant, and ill pretend you werent being an ass by ignoring it07:30
Jucato /dev/hdb2              65        1239     9438187+  83  Linux <-- tells me that it's ext307:30
sparrno it doesnt07:30
sparrit might be ext207:31
Jucato82 = ext3/ext2, 82 = swap07:31
sparr83 = "linux", it could be formatted with any filesystem07:31
sparrit could be ISO (yes, crazy)07:31
sparror ext2, or ext3, or reiser07:31
sparror udf, or fat07:31
Jucatobut you'd know that it's not a drive if it's an ISO07:31
Jucatono. FAT and NTFS have different systems07:32
Jucato /dev/hda3            1307        2433     9052627+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)07:32
sparrno, they SHOULD have different systems07:32
Jucato /dev/hda1   *           1        1175     9438156    7  HPFS/NTFS07:32
sparrnothing stops you from formatting a "linux"-type partition as FAT07:32
Jucatoanyway, that07:32
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Jucatothat's just afaik.07:32
sparror a "FAT32"-type partition as ext207:32
Jucatobut I guess you know more so I'll just shut up07:32
sparrthanks07:32
newtoeverythinganyone know a little about grub?07:33
Admiral_Chicagoi know a little, dunno if that'll help07:33
newtoeverythingwell can you try lol.. kinda pulling my hair out and dont want to format lol07:33
newtoeverythingi installed kubuntu on /dev/hda2 and then debian on /dev/hda3 (both on ext3) but now when i try and boot into the kubuntu grub dont seem to recognise its filesystem07:34
Admiral_Chicagooh wow, i could help but it's bed time for me.07:35
newtoeverythingshame.. lol anyone else free?07:35
underdog5004I am, and I'm sober now07:37
underdog5004what can I help you with?07:37
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adydasoh oh oh me me MEE07:37
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newtoeverythinglol.. well did anyone read the problem ^07:38
underdog5004nope, what's up?07:38
newtoeverythingi installed kubuntu on /dev/hda2 and then debian on /dev/hda3 (both on ext3) but now when i try and boot into the kubuntu grub dont seem to recognise its filesystem07:38
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adydasnvidia Api error kernel modul miss match, 1.0-7184 // 1.0-974607:39
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newtoeverythingim sure its still there cos i can mount it as a ext3, but in grub when i do (hd0,TAB it shows it as "Partition num: 3,  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"07:39
underdog5004newtoeverything, lol, I'm no help...sorry07:39
newtoeverythinglol its kewl07:39
underdog5004maybe edit the menu.list07:39
sparrI want an equivalent result to "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/tmp/foo && file /tmp/foo" without needing a shitload of free space in /tmp.  Help?07:39
adydasnewtoeverything: nano /boot/grub/menu.lst07:40
underdog5004sparr, why don't you just write directly to where you want to write to?07:40
underdog5004otherwise, you _will_ need a shitload of tmp space07:40
newtoeverythingi did, on boot gives the same message.. i must of done something really bad:(07:41
sparrunderdog5004: i dont want to write anywhere07:41
sparrunderdog5004: i just want to run 'file' on it07:41
sparraha!07:43
sparrfile -s /dev/hda107:43
sparrhooray07:43
Branded_Atomnewtoeverything: this is what a google search came up with: "Be sure to check your root(x,y) settings in your grub.conf."07:43
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dsmith_ok so if beryl doesn't like this machine07:43
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dsmith_could  just upgrade the video card?07:43
Branded_Atomfor the error :filesystem type unknown partition type 0x7  Error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition07:44
newtoeverythingBranded_Atom yea i checked and re checked07:44
Branded_Atomthats alli got. sorry07:45
newtoeverythingits kewl thnx anyway.. thought it might have been a common thing07:45
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yuriy!mp307:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:52
adydasAm i going to be missing out on anything by using nv over nvidia as my graphics device?07:53
adydasAnswered my own Q, Yes.. the tv output07:53
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t095i09hello07:55
t095i09test07:55
t095i09hello07:55
dettoaltrimentimy gmail.com page when I view it on konqueror doesn't look great- the font is too small- is there any way I can change the settings to have a bigger font, but just for gmail.com?07:55
t095i09how to configure wpa in edgy ?07:55
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Branded_Atomcontrol+= increases the font size on a page in konqueror...07:57
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dettoaltrimentiI know, Branded_Atom. I was wondering if I could change the settings for a particular site so I don't have to press ctrl+ every time I check my emqail07:58
Branded_Atomi  suppose you could write  a style sheet for it07:58
Branded_Atomkoqueror supports css07:59
ash211_t095i09: try using knetworkmanager07:59
ash211_you'll need wpa_supplicant07:59
dsmith_off topic I know but real quick, what manufacturer makes a decent nvidia card?07:59
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t095i09ash11..yea...but where is wpasupplicant.conf location ?08:02
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Vuenargh. i'm using adept, i'm trying to install lyx08:06
Vuenanyone know how i can go about doing this?08:06
Vuenwhen i search for lyx using adept, it shows only "GNU polyxmass". but apt-cache in a konsole shows lyx is indeed in the repository08:07
Vuenwhy isn't adept showing it?08:07
JucatoVuen: are you using Add/Remove Programs?08:08
Vuenyes.08:08
Vueni suppose i should say i already installed from a konsole08:08
JucatoVuen: click the checkbox for "unsupported"08:08
Vueni'm just wondering why adept is not showing it08:08
Vueni already tried that08:08
Jucatohm..08:09
Vuendoes it show it on your computer?08:09
Jucatoit does. but I have to click on the Office category08:09
Vuensee, why can't adept just show me the packages? synaptic works great for this08:09
Branded_Atomsynaptic shows it for me...08:09
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VuenBranded_Atom: yes, synaptic shows it for me too.08:09
JucatoVuen: if you use Adept Manager, it will show up.08:09
JucatoVuen: Add/Remove Programs is the same Add/Remove Programs in Ubuntu. Add/Remove Programs is not like Synaptic or Adept Manager08:10
VuenJucato: when i click Add/Remove Programs, I get a KDE su window that wants to run "adept_installer". I put in my password, Adept Installer pops up.08:10
Vuenit most definitely IS running adept08:11
Branded_Atomi see it in adept installer,  if  i change kde only to "any suite"08:11
JucatoVuen: Adept Installer is the program name for Add/Remove Programs. Adept Manager is a different kind08:11
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VuenBranded_Atom: i don't see it. i've got Any Suite selected, checked off show unsupported and proprietary software08:11
JucatoVuen: like what Branded_Atom said, change KDE to "Any Suite", check "Unsupported", type in "lyx" then click on the Office Category08:11
Vuenit's not there08:11
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Vueni'm telling you. it's not there08:12
Vuenwould you like a screenshot?08:12
Jucatosure08:12
Vuen*sigh* fine.08:12
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Jucatobtw, Adept Installer isn't like Adept Manger or Synaptic. Synaptic = Adept Manager. Adept Installer = Add/remove Programs in ubuntu08:13
Branded_Atomand can i  ask why you're not using synaptic if you said you saw it there earlier?08:13
VuenBranded_Atom: because i'm on kubuntu08:13
Branded_Atomso am i08:13
Vuenso we're supposed to use synaptic? that doesn't even make sense, synaptic is gtk08:13
JucatoVuen: you're supposed to use what you want. no one's dictating. the defaults are just there for.. well... default08:14
Vueni WANT to use a QT-based package manager that will just show me the packages in the repository.08:14
Branded_Atommy adept-manger is showing lyx08:15
Vuenadept-managnick@nick:~$ adept-manager08:15
Vuenbash: adept-manager: command not found08:15
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Vuennevermind, it's an underscore08:16
Vuenooh. see this is exactly what i'm looking for08:16
Vuenhow do i run adept manager from the K menu?08:16
Vuennevermind i see it now08:16
Branded_Atomsystem, ->adept08:16
JucatoVuen: http://jucato.org/stuff/lyx.png08:17
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Branded_Atompersonally, i like synaptic better08:17
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Vuenanyway, here's your screenshot: http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adeptlyxdl4.png08:17
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Branded_Atomthat is odd08:18
Jucatobtw, I officially don't trust Adept Installer aka Add/Remove Programs :)08:18
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Branded_Atomi'm with you there08:19
adydasi cant say im to impressed with it08:19
Vueni didn't even know adept-manager existed until now. why on earth are they two separate programs?08:19
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JucatoBranded_Atom: try looking for KWord in there :)08:19
adydasi grew up with apt-get, Yum was weird but adept just feels wrong08:19
JucatoVuen: why on earth is Syanptic and Add/Remove Programs different on Ubuntu too? :)08:19
enjoihello everyone, are there any advantages or disadvantages to upgrading to edgy from the cd rather than doing dist-upgrade?08:20
Branded_Atomhaha, i'm still looking for a word processor that i lik08:20
Branded_Atomdownload time =0 with cd ;)08:20
JucatoVuen: Adept Installer is *supposed* to be a more friendly interface to Adept Manager. just like what its counterpart is in Ubuntu08:20
enjoilol, cd it is then08:20
VuenJucato: anyway. yes, i grew up with apt too08:20
Branded_Atomymmv08:20
enjoiok thanks brandon see ya08:21
Vuenbut it's hard to impress people at linux's ease of installation when you have to do it from a terminal window08:21
JucatoVuen: Kubuntu != all of Linux08:21
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Vuen?08:21
adydaslinux is terminal window08:21
Branded_Atomyea, but kubuntu is linux fo the masses!08:21
Admiral_Chicagolinux is a kernel actually08:21
tudzaAny way to update Amarok without updating Kubuntu?08:21
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Vuen"<Jucato> Vuen: Kubuntu != all of Linux"  what?08:22
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Vuenwhat is that even referring to?08:22
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adydasthink of it more as a figure of speech Admiral_Chicago08:22
Branded_Atomhe means "linux's ease of installation"08:22
Branded_Atomand the terminal08:22
Vuenfine then, debian-derived distributions' ease of installation. happy now?08:22
Admiral_Chicagotudza: add the amarok repo08:23
JucatoVuen: what I meant was that one distro's ease or unease of installation doesn't represent all of Linux (the OS) in its entirety08:23
Jucatoand, as what Branded_Atom so poetically mentioned earlier, ymmv08:23
Jucato(Your Mileage May Vary)08:24
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Vuen*sigh* if i'm going to show off how easy it is to install things on my computer, i'm not going to explain to them the differences between distributions and package managers. i'm going to tell them "this is Linux."08:24
Branded_Atomwell don't do that08:24
Branded_Atomhehehe08:24
Vuenwhy?08:24
newest007how do i upgrade to kubuntu from ubuntu?08:24
Vuenwhy not?08:24
JucatoVuen: then show them a distro that is supposed to be easy to install and manage08:24
VuenJucato: and ubuntu is not such a distro?08:24
Jucatotbh? no08:25
tudzaah, what would the URL for the amarok repository be?08:25
Vuennewest007: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:25
newest007no08:25
VuenJucato: wow. okay08:25
newest007i want to upgrade TO kubuntu, not upgrade to ubuntu08:25
newest007i got ubuntu now, i want kubuntu though08:25
Vuennewest007: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:25
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newest007ahh k, ty08:25
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Vuennewest007: when it asks whether you want gdm or kdm, tell it kdm08:26
newest007just that i already done sudo apt get install kubuntu desktop08:26
newest007but i messed things up08:26
newest007now my pc is awol08:26
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JucatoVuen: imho, Ubuntu is a relatively harmonious blend of GUI and command-line. if you want "ease" of use, look towards something like Linspire08:26
newest007ive got both gnome and kde apps in menus etc08:26
Jucatonewest007: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde08:26
newest007but all the gnome ones are useless08:26
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VuenJucato: if not ubuntu, then what would be a distro that is easy to install and manage?08:26
newest007but i dont know how to clean up the desktop of all the gnome app's08:26
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VuenJucato: ah08:26
JucatoVuen: well, Ubuntu is easy to install. Manage? that depends08:27
VuenJucato: first off linspire is proprietary. they may as well use windows. second of all, soon linspire and freespire will be based on ubuntu08:27
Vuenwhich makes your argument pretty much moot08:27
JucatoVuen: you do know what proprietary means don't you?08:27
newest007if i do sudo apt get install kubuntu desktop again, will my desktop reset back to the default KDE settings? cause my desktop is REAL messed up08:28
VuenJucato: nice, how condescending of you.] 08:28
Jucato"proprietary" doesn't mean "paid/commercial"08:28
VuenJucato: linspire costs MONEY.08:28
JucatoFreespire doesn't. And we're talking about "ease" of use.08:28
VuenJucato: *sigh* just because it's open source doesn't mean it's not proprietary. proprietary does not mean closed source.08:28
newest007how do i stop programs from starting up when i boot my pc?08:28
VuenJucato: yes, and to make it easy to use, they're migrating to ubuntu. that's the whole point.08:29
newest007cause gaim keeps loading up, i want to stop it08:29
adydas_I dont find it all that easy to be fair08:29
JucatoVuen: proprietary means "closed source"08:29
Vuenno, it doesn't.08:29
newest007anyone?08:29
Jucatonewest007: close it before you logout. but are you on Kubuntu?08:29
newest007im on ubuntu but i used sudo apt get install kubuntu desktop,08:30
newest007whats the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu apart from the desktop graphics?08:30
Jucatonewest007: by default, KDE saves what you left open when you logout, and restores it when you login.08:30
newest007ahh, kk08:30
newest007so i have to select, load a new session?08:30
adydas_newest007:  just that ib elive08:30
newest007sorry??08:31
Jucatonewest007: no. just remember to totally quit GAIM before you logout08:31
newest007i do08:31
newest007but it keeps trying to start up when i log on08:31
Vuennewest007: you can configure KDE to exclude gaim from starting up automatically08:31
newest007and everynow and then, some other programs randomly start up08:31
Jucatonewest007: are you sure it's not running in the system tray?08:31
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newest007im sure08:31
Jucatohm...08:31
Jucatonewest007: this happens when you login to KDE?08:32
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newest007my user name is present, all i have to do is enter my passowrd, and desktop loads up, which i dont like, id prefer if my user name wasnt shown at logon screnn..08:33
newest007soz typos, type too fast, lol08:33
Vuennewest007: system settings -> session manager, click "Start with an empty session" or type "gaim" in the aplications to be excluded08:33
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Branded_Atomor /home/(your user name)/.kde/Autostart08:34
Branded_Atomand get it out of there..08:34
Vuenanyway Jucato, debian uses "proprietary" for any closed source application, but that's not how the FSF defines it; they define it as any software that isn't GPL-compatible. take cedega for example, open source but proprietary.08:35
newest007ahh, sweet, got it now, ty people08:35
Branded_Atomwhich way worked best for you?08:35
VuenJucato: from wikipedia: "Some proprietary software comes with source code or provides offers to the source code. Users are free to use and even study and modify the software in these cases, but are restricted by either licenses or non-disclosure agreements from redistributing modifications or sharing the software. Examples include Pine, the Microsoft Shared source license program, and certain proprietary implementations of SSH."08:35
Vuenso to answer your condescending question, yes, i know what proprietary means. do you?08:36
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Vuenanyway. linspire is proprietary. it contains lots of proprietary software by default, such as codecs, which users pay money for.08:38
Vuenfreespire is FOSS. it will soon be based on ubuntu, and ubuntu will soon be using CNR.08:39
JucatoUbuntu will soon be "able to" use CNR.08:40
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Vuenfeisty will have CNR in the repos, feisty+1 will have it by default iirc08:40
morticihow does one "format" a drive in linux? i have a 1gb flash drive that is telling me it has 250gb worth of data08:41
adydas_!format08:42
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:42
ForgeAusJucato will it be called CNR or fcnr?08:42
JucatoForgeAus: ask Vuen. he seems to know a lot about official Ubuntu plans for CNR08:42
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Vueni don't know.08:43
ForgeAuslol08:43
Vueni haven't heard of fcnr08:43
ForgeAusI looked for it on sourceforge and it had something about freespire (I think it was under a different name but seemed to be referring to the same thing) and an fcnr...08:44
ForgeAuswhich I guess stands for free click n run08:44
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Spo8hey i had an install question that maybe you guys could help with08:44
adydas_ffs ok, if i edit resolv.conf and reboot why does it go back to what ever default it has08:44
ForgeAusady I had similar problems with my fstab sometimes08:45
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ForgeAus(and when my kernel updated it messed up my grub's menu.lst...)08:45
adydas_im SO confused08:45
adydas_YES08:45
adydas_same08:45
adydas_i was jsut going to say that08:45
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ForgeAusin teh transition getting rid of the old one somehow i managed to get myself a drive full of some error log for x-session (which I simply deleted... )08:46
Jucatoadydas_: that's the normal behavior for resolv.conf, afaik. don't know how to make it stay08:46
thill2708for the love of god, how do I use fuseiso, and why can't I find a konqueror plugin that does the same thing? I basically want to be extracting xdvdfs files08:46
ForgeAusadydas all I can suggest is keep backups of those files08:47
ForgeAusand restore/compare them to the default/update/etc versions08:47
JucatoForgeAus: as for menu.lst, anything above the AUTOMAGIC Kernel list is changed when there's a kernel upgrade08:47
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adydaserr weird..08:48
thill2708and why isn't mountiso in the feisty repositories?08:48
Jucatoif you want to make something stick in menu.lst. put it below that line08:48
ForgeAuswhy does it need to be?08:48
adydasSo theres no way is can stop every reboot it resorting to trying to use my local NAS drive as the primary DNS server08:48
ForgeAustheres serveral apps that can mount iso's08:48
adydasWHY its set to that i dont know..08:48
thill2708yeah, but as far as I can tell, only mountiso/fuseiso can do xdvdfs08:48
Jucato!iso08:49
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn08:49
ForgeAusthill possibly, I havn't heard of xdvdfs so I wouldn't know08:49
Jucatothere's no mountiso on Edgy either08:49
thill2708argh08:49
thill2708mountiso is a konqueror extension that'll do it easily08:49
ForgeAuskonqueror has extensions08:50
ForgeAustheres also kiso you could look at08:50
thill2708yup, using that but it doesn't read xdvdfs iso's08:50
ForgeAusI'm pretty sure I can use iso:// kioslave in konqueror08:50
ForgeAusbut again the xdvdfs thing might be a problem08:50
ForgeAusI don't know that format08:50
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Jucatothill2708: #ubuntu-motu if you want to ask about "why this program isn't packaged in Ubuntu"08:51
ForgeAusis it some kinda udf?08:51
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thill2708Yeah, I think so08:51
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thill2708plus kde-apps.org is timing out.08:52
ForgeAusyou might want to look for udf tools? they might do the same thing... but I doubt you'd mount them as an iso that way, probably as a /dev/devicename08:52
thill2708ah, I'll try that Jucato08:52
Jucatokde-*.org sites are down08:52
thill2708why?08:52
vgehi, what was the command to create new .htpasswd password?08:52
Jucatodunno why. I don't own it :D08:52
thill2708dammit, Jucato08:53
ForgeAushehe kde-*.org sites are notorious for having links that don't function well under konqueror08:53
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ForgeAusstill they're not the only source of kde software08:53
adydashtpasswd08:53
adydas?08:53
Jucatothill2708: nothing you/we can do but wait for them to be up again08:53
JucatoForgeAus: they're the largest source of 3rd-party KDE software08:54
JucatoForgeAus: and they are as official as you can get08:54
Jucatobut KDE-Look... well.. that's another story08:54
ForgeAusmostly about the aesthetics anyway right?.. themes, icons, etc?08:54
Jucatoyeah. but it's one hell of a haystack08:55
ForgeAusI'm not talking up or down kde-*.org I'm just saying its not NECESSARY, I'm not denying that it is handy...08:55
Branded_Atomvge, what do you need?08:56
ForgeAusum btw Jucato what can you tell me about an fsck error 8 (operational error according to the man page) ... which doesn't mean all that much to me08:57
JucatoForgeAus: it *is* necessary (kde-*.org)08:57
JucatoForgeAus: dunno about those errors08:57
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ForgeAusis it possible it could be caused by the fsck error saying that a drive is already mounted?08:58
vgeBranded_Atom: i got what i needed, but unfortunally the command was not supported in the ssh connection i had08:58
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Branded_Atomhtpasswd -c /path/to/new/htpasswd/file username?08:59
ForgeAusit just means I need to exit a shell, login (textmode) sudo -i (login directly as root didn't work for some reason) and run kdm manually08:59
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vgeBranded_Atom: yup, no htpasswd command08:59
adydasinstalled ?09:00
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Branded_Atomodd, is htaccess running where you ssh'ed to?09:00
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vgeyup09:02
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Branded_Atomi think you have a deeper problem that  you are seeing a symptom of here09:03
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fekmoin09:04
orient2000does anybody knows any working weather desklet?09:05
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Branded_Atomforecastfox in firefox? ;)09:05
mart81orient2000: superkaramba?09:06
Branded_Atomi don't know about you, but ff is always open for me09:06
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orient2000I have liquid weather from superkaramba but I do not know where it is.09:12
mart81orient2000: load the app from either the K-menu or from ALT-F2 and "superkaramba". Then right-click the icon of superkaramba in the systray and from the popup you can find your way.09:14
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orient2000OK I got karamba working but I can not find my themes I downloaded.09:26
nomad111hey every1 samba is not mounting a shared folder on my other computer09:27
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nomad111my fstab entry: //insight/downloads  /media/insight-downloads  smbfs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  009:27
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nomad111any tips to help09:29
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cntb!printing09:32
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:32
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emjayhi all09:34
emjaysome italian here?09:34
Jucato__it09:35
Jucato__!it09:35
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:35
emjaytnk u09:35
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unix_infidelheh, the only italian i know is from "life is beautiful"09:36
Jucato__la vita bello?09:37
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unix_infidelJucato__: whatever parts of the english dub that werent dubbed :)09:37
Jucato__roflmao09:38
firecrotchHow can I figure out if my wireless NIC is using full or half duplex?09:38
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parkerw207can someone help me i cannot load adept09:55
parkerw207it says there is an error09:55
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stdinif it's what I think it is, it's a simple fix...09:56
stdin!aptfix09:56
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:56
stdinparkerw207: ^^09:56
parkerw207oo ok then thanks09:56
stdinno problem :)09:57
parkerw207i'll check now :P09:57
parkerw207oo no that didnt work09:58
parkerw207i added a new address to the repository could that have cuased this ?09:58
parkerw207its says there is something wrong with the configuration09:58
typecastparkerw207: can you paste the error message on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/?09:59
parkerw207i'll ry09:59
stdinthe new source could be it, adept is very picky about that09:59
parkerw207ooo i'll just past he messag09:59
parkerw207though i can copy and paste it :P09:59
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parkerw207ook it wont even load adept now lol10:00
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stdinparkerw207: just post your /etc/apt/sources.list to the paste site typecast gave you, we will be able to spot any mistakes in there10:02
parkerw207ok10:02
parkerw207permission denied ?10:03
parkerw207oo i get it lol10:03
parkerw207i fixed it myself :)10:04
stdinheh10:05
stdingood :)10:05
parkerw207*getting the hang of this10:05
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parkerw207ok cya guys :) thanks for the help :)10:06
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crazy_penguinHello!10:17
stdinhey crazy_penguin10:17
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vegasHi, anybody on?10:23
vegasI can't get ktorrent to work10:23
vegasit just says stalled, and i know for a fact that the torrent has plenty of seeders10:23
stdinvegas: check your firewall settings (if it's enabled), and try changing the default port and enable encryption (in case your ISP it capping/blocking torrents)10:25
vegasyea, i'm at a coffee shop, they probably block torrents10:26
vegassurprises me though...just the other week they allowed them10:26
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vegasand that was before i switched to kubuntu10:26
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vegasso i figured it was probably a problem with the os10:26
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stdinmost torrent problems are connection problems (ISP/Local blocking)10:27
vegasstdin, do you happen to know if it's possible for me to set up vmware so that i can run my old xp install on vmware?10:27
vegasi know it's not the isp...i live a block away from here and have the same one10:27
vegasso apparently they got smart10:27
stdinvegas: you mean a previously install windows, from the disk ?10:28
vegaslol...i guess so...they finally changed the name and pass for the router away from admin and admin10:28
vegasyea10:28
vegaserm10:28
vegasno10:28
vegasmy xp install that was on this hdd before i installed kubuntu10:28
vegasi just changed the partitions10:28
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stdinso you want to be able to run it from the hdd, in vmware?10:29
vegasso there's a 20gb ntfs partition with a full working (if you want to call it that) xp install10:29
vegasyea10:29
vegasalso...i don't really know how to set up vmware10:29
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stdinI think you can do it, with vmware workstation/server, not with the player. you do the setup in vmware as normal, except you choose to use a physical disk/partition as the disk. But there a chance windows won't boot, as it doesn't like hardware changes10:31
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vegasyea10:32
vegasalso, do you know of a place where i can find drivers for wifi cards?  when i installed my wifi card wouldn't work so i just put my old one in, but i'd like to use the newer one seeing as it's 802.11g and this one is10:32
vegasisn't10:32
vegasi do a lot of file transfers/streaming, so it'd be nice to use the g card10:33
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stdinthe driver for linux?10:34
stdinvegas: oh, found this for you too: http://news.u32.net/articles/2006/07/18/running-vmware-on-a-physical-partition10:34
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vegasyea, can't find the driver for linux10:36
vegasit's an msi mp54g510:36
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stdinI don't use wireless, but the help page is a good place to start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:38
vegasgood call10:39
vegasthanks10:39
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vegashm10:46
vegastried a different torrent and it works10:46
vegasfor some reason one from thepiratebay works, but one from demonoid and one from bitmetv don't wokr10:46
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stdinmaybe they are selectively blocking some servers10:48
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reldruhdoes anybody know of a panel applet that will display the current status of my wireless connection?11:00
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adydas_reldruh: http://www.kde-look.org/ go down to like karamba and see if you can find any11:01
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reldruhadydas_: I don't have karamba installed and I'd like to keep it that way. I tried to check kde-apps for a standard panel applet, but the site seems to be down11:02
stdinknetworkmanager will do it too, it sits in the system tray11:02
reldruhstdin: thanks. It's installing now11:03
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reldruhstdin: that's an amazing applet11:05
reldruhexactly what I was looking for11:05
reldruhit seems to be hanging though...11:05
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stdinI'm still in the networking dark ages, using a wired connection, so I don't use it much11:06
adydas_This is bollox, how can you edit a file such as resolv.conf reboot and it go back to what ever it feels like11:06
Tarinhello!11:06
_StefanS_hi11:07
reldruhstdin: interesting. Maybe it's a problem with ndiswrapper. I just installed it11:07
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Tarinlinux is getting more attention...  isn't it?11:09
stdinit should work with any wifi connection11:09
stdinTarin: more "main stream" attention, yeah11:09
Tarinword11:09
Tarinwhat with vista biting the big one11:09
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Tarinmore people are looking for alternatives11:10
sorush20hi11:10
stdinyeah, people are starting to realise that M$ don't care about customers11:10
sorush20where is the kubuntu picasa package repositories11:10
adydas_As its got more userfreindly its grown11:10
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vegaswhat do you guys use for video playback?  i'm considering converting my media center pc to linux11:10
stdin!picasa | sorush2011:11
ubotusorush20: Picasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html11:11
vegasalso, how do i run an rpm file?11:11
adydas_you get redhat ?11:11
stdin!rpm | vegas11:11
ubotuvegas: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)11:11
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vegasthanks stdin11:11
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stdinvegas: try and find a .deb if you can, packages converted from rpm can go wrong, tho I haven't had too many problems11:12
Tarini was wondering if you folks would reccomend using ubuntu + beryl11:12
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Tarinif if i should try something simpler11:12
vegasanyway, any suggestions as to media players?11:12
Tarinim a noob11:12
adydasvegas: mplayer ive been tolds good11:13
vegasand would you guys say that kubuntu is the best distro for a media center pc?11:13
vegasthanks adydas11:13
stdinmy favourite media player is mplayer, but VLC is good too11:13
adydasive gave it ago, but nothing to compare it against it played my avi files etc from a network drive on a fedora core machine11:13
vegasi used vlc on winblows, wasn't bad but wasn't great11:13
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adydasyeah VLC for the win tho, i loved it on windows seemed to play anything11:14
vegasyea11:14
stdinit works well with some codecs11:14
vegasbut then again so did divx player11:14
stdinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications <-- just found this11:14
vegasthanks stdin11:15
vegasi should probably start reading the ubuntu help and guides before just asking you guys, i'll probably start annoying you soon11:15
adydasi know naff all, but if i can help i will11:15
vegasbut on the bright side once i get to the point where i know my shit i'll stick around and help out others11:15
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stdinit's still nice to get "human" help every now and then :)11:16
adydasstdin:  you know anything about writeing to resolv.conf as su saving, rebooting and it going back to what it was before you edited it?11:16
stdinadydas: yeah, I know a bit...11:17
adydascan you explain, i cant understand whats going on, how on earth can root edit and save the file and it go back due to a resart11:18
stdinadydas: what heppens is that the name servers in there are written by dhclient, which gets the info from your dhcp server11:18
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adydasright, sounds like i stop using DHCP :p11:18
stdinso it's written every time the network comes up11:18
stdinyou can "bypass" it tho :P11:18
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adydasor ill just not use DHCP11:19
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adydasits only running for my cellphones use11:19
stdinahh, it's just a matter of editing 1 line in a file tho, if you wanted to11:19
adydasim good, im actually annoyed at how little you need to setup for ubuntu to be fair11:20
vegasmaybe this is a stupid question, but why would you wifi for a cellphone?11:20
adydaswhat about grub files11:20
adydasvegas its a windows based imate phone11:21
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adydasso it syns to the internet via the dhcp and can then sync to an exchange server to pick up emails etc11:21
stdinwhat do you want to know about grub11:21
adydassame thing11:21
adydasi edit and save menu.1st11:21
adydassame thing happens11:21
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vegasah11:22
vegasthat reminds me of a question i had11:22
stdinmenu.1st? you mean menu.lst ?11:22
adydasyeah11:22
adydassorry11:22
vegashow much of a problem am i going to have using my pda with linux?11:22
adydasits late here11:22
vegasit's windows mobile based11:22
vegasit's early here11:22
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vegas5:22 am11:22
vegasi was up all night11:22
craighi11:22
vegasthis linux shit's fascinating11:22
adydasok you win11:22
adydaswhere is it there11:22
vegasi just started using it yesterday11:22
vegaskalamazoo, michigan11:23
craigany babes here11:23
stdinadydas: what are you changing in the menu.lst file?11:23
adydascraig: wrong room11:23
kaatilit almost one year.. well until to june will my first anniversery on kubuntu. :p..11:23
vegasLOL @ craig11:23
kaatiland on linux as well11:23
craigwhat room then11:23
stdin#ubuntu-women11:23
stdin:P11:23
vegasman, i guess i was a day early...i should've picked it up on valentine's day11:24
stdin^^ real channel btw11:24
vegasi was just about to try it to see11:24
adydasstdin: removing some fouled up entries a make isntall put there11:24
vegascraig, the room you're looking for would be a bar11:24
vegasany bar11:24
vegaswell11:24
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vegasi guess that would depend upon your preferences11:24
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stdinadydas: you mean some kernel boot options, or something else ?11:25
vegasalthough guys that go trolling irc for women are probably the same ones that would get drunk enough to adopt the "mouth's a mouth" philosophy11:25
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vegasok, mplayer for video, do you guys use it for audio too?11:29
stdinmplayer will play anything really, but for audio Amarok RULES11:29
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stdinAmarok puts windows media player to shame11:30
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adydas_im likeing amarok11:30
adydas_stdin: before i reset net, it was to remove some wrong inserts into the file11:30
vegasum, stdin, itunes put windows media player to shame, and itunes sucks11:31
vegasbut yea, i like what i've seen of amarok so far11:31
stdinjust wait until you look at the scripts for it, vegas11:31
adydas_i mean comon11:32
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adydas_windows never has a wikipedia search for your artists currently been played11:32
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vegasi'm just glad to be free of the bugs of windows11:33
nknwddoes anyone know how to install pyGTK-devel ?11:33
stdinadydas_: it shouldn't get writtin to again unless you install a kernel update, and then all you need to change is the "kopt=" line11:33
vegasi haven't run into a single problem with kubuntu, aside from the fact that i'm a complete and utter n00b11:33
adydas_it adds the new, and the old again11:33
adydas_so i have 15 entrys, 2.6.20-generic 2.6.20.old etc etc11:34
vegasoh, how big of a hit do you take from using wine and cedega for games?  should i keep an xp partition on my gaming pc?11:34
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stdinadydas_: can you post the file to pastebin, I'll have a look at it11:35
nknwdDOES anyone know how to install pyGTK-devel ?11:35
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stdinvegas: some games run in wine/cedega, some don't11:35
adydas_vegas i kept a win xp partition for games, never used it11:35
adydas_xbox 360 for the win11:35
adydas_nknwd: sudo apt-get install pyGTK-devel11:36
vegasi have a 360, but for first person shooters i can't give up my pc11:36
stdinnknwd: maybe python-gtk2-dev11:36
adydas_assuming thats the correct package11:36
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adydas_vegas: Rainbow 6, GOW, Call of duty11:36
vegasuntil they give me a mouse and keyboard for the xbox 360 i'm sticking with pc gaming11:36
adydas_you give it time, get used to it and it rocks.11:36
stdinadydas_: you know what they say about assuming, don't you? :P11:36
vegasdude, i got my xbox on launch date, got my 360 on launch date, still use pc for gaming11:37
vegasi'm a cpl player11:37
SolidSource!w32codecs11:37
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs11:37
vegasi mean, the xbox came out in what, 2001?11:37
adydas_stdin: i know, im so used to assuming11:37
vegasi think 6 years is ample time11:37
adydas_xbox 360s can use a mouse andk eyboard ( from what ive heard )11:38
vegasit doesn't bother me to keep my pc up to date for games11:38
adydas_some minor dikin about11:38
vegasalso, what real time strategy games are there for the consoles?11:38
vegasyes, they can, but it sucks11:38
adydas_comamnd & Conq is coming out on  360 soon11:38
mart81iSuck tm11:38
adydas_and that Lord of the rings game :/.11:38
vegasthe thing is, it's basically the x and y axis of your right analog stick mapped to a mouse11:38
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vegasso the ability to turn a 180 on a dime is gone11:39
vegasyea, but the thing is that rts sucks on a console11:39
vegasit's been done11:39
vegasit sucks11:39
vegasfor things like that you need a pc11:39
vegasit's just a fact11:39
adydas_i game as good on 360 as i ever did on pc styles, admitadly its easyer to just sit down and learn keyboard and mouse gaming than a hand controlelr for a 36011:39
vegaswell, in my book, anyway11:39
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adydas_took me a few months to master things with the xbox11:40
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vegasadydas, it's a preference thing...i played the hell out of halo 2, but i still greatly prefer counter-strike11:40
adydas_i agree, i used to love counterstrike.. but now im hooked on rainbow 6 ( very ish simlar )11:41
vegasit has nothing to do with my ability to rack up frags, i'm sure that with concentration and practice i could pwn just as many noobs on xbox as i do on pc, the thing is that it's not as fun in my book11:41
vegasi play rainbow 6 a lot, it's just that counter-strike's the old stand-by11:41
adydas_6 of 1, half a dozen of the other on that fo rme11:41
vegasalso, i make money off of cs11:41
vegashell, i wish i could make the switch to just console gaming, it'd save me money11:42
vegasall i pay for on consoles is the initial cost...i play burned 360 games online all the time11:42
vegasm$ really screwed the pooch on the security for that one11:42
adydas_yeah11:42
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adydas_im gonna firmware my dvd rom soon to do tha11:43
vegasoh, is there support for flac with amarok?11:43
vegasadydas, make sure you have the right drive11:43
vegasalso, check what sata card you do it with11:43
adydas_oh ill pay someone11:43
vegashey...i'm experienced11:43
vegasif that's how you want to go11:43
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adydas_you in my country :P11:44
vegaswhat country?11:44
adydas_New Zealand11:44
vegasouch11:44
vegashm11:44
adydas_Man, i JUST timed out..11:44
vegaswonder what shipping would be11:44
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adydasarse loads11:44
vegasidk, shipping's cheap, generally11:44
vegasdepends on how you go11:44
adydastherse a company in new plymouth here that does them11:44
adydasits like $30 bucks11:44
vegasoh11:44
vegasnm then11:44
adydasit would cost me that in shipping11:44
vegasyea11:45
adydasmy only issue, if orgot the companys name11:45
vegasLOL11:45
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vegasgoogle should solve that for you11:45
adydasyeah11:45
adydaswhen i need to worry about it ill dig it out11:45
adydasie warrenty expires11:45
vegaslol...warranty11:45
adydasthat to :p11:45
vegasno, i was laughing at the notion11:45
vegasi void warrantees as soon as i can usually11:46
vegasit's just one of those things11:46
adydasyeah i know, but if somthing goes horirbly wrong in the next 3 months ih ave 1 leg as apposed to none to stand on11:46
vegasum...there's always a leg to stand on11:46
adydasactually launch was 1st march so its nearly all over rover anyway11:47
vegasif it breaks you ship it to a friend, insure it for $400, and have them claim the insurance11:47
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adydasyou mean $80011:47
vegasdon't get greedy when scamming shipping companies11:47
vegasthat's how you get busted11:47
adydasno, thats what it cost me11:47
vegasdoes new zealand use different dollars?11:48
adydasyes11:48
vegasah11:48
vegaswell11:48
adydaswer elike 42 cents to the us $ i belive..11:48
adydaserr, you know what i mean11:48
vegasship it for whatever a brand new one costs there, and be happy with the fact that you got a new 36011:48
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vegasyea, i wish there was a global currency11:48
adydasbe so much easyer he11:48
adydaseh11:48
vegasalthough the monetary system is corrupt enough as it is11:49
vegasthere's no backing to it11:49
vegaswell, there is, but not much11:49
vegasin the US i think there's actual backing for about 1/9 of the money in circulation11:49
vegasprobably similar in NZ11:50
adydasim curious how much missing money is floating around the states11:50
adydasrecently we changed our 5, 10 and 50 cent coins and had to hand in our old stuff for free exchange11:50
vegashell, think of the missing money that's floating arounds in iraq or any other country in the world11:50
vegasUSD, no less11:50
adydasthere was like millions missing11:50
vegasever see any of the pictures of mercenaries in iraq sitting on stacks of sheets of uncut $100 bills?11:51
vegaslegal us tender11:51
adydasi remeber somthing on the news11:51
adydassome guy tryed to sneek it home11:51
adydaswith others and they got busted eh11:51
vegasum, if you work for someplace like blackwater it's legal to take it home11:51
adydasman, that would be sweet11:52
vegasif you're a regular soldier, yeah, you have to turn it in11:52
vegasmy cousin's in blackwater11:52
adydashere working for a chocolate factory getting a free samples hard work11:52
vegasit'd be sweet, but there's a lot that goes into working for a place like that11:52
vegas10+ years military experience, mandatory documented combat experience11:53
vegasyou've got to be a hardass11:53
adydasha cool11:53
vegasyou know what blackwater is, right?11:53
adydasKDE pannel (kicker) crashed11:53
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adydasoh perhaps not, i thought it was a place11:53
vegasthat happened to me, actually11:53
vegaswonder what happened to it11:53
vegasanyway11:53
adydasso its not an area11:53
vegasblackwater is the biggest and most well known private military contractor on the planet11:54
vegasbasically, mercenaries11:54
vegassee, governments like the US will go into an area, protect certain VIP's, then pull out and leave them hanging11:54
vegasso those people need protection11:55
vegasso they hire mercenaries11:55
adydasyou learn somthing new every day11:55
adydasand im 6 mins away from a new day to..11:55
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vegasit's quite lucrative, if you meet their qualifications11:57
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PhinnForthow can I reset my K-Menu?11:57
PhinnFortit's really bugged up after I "converted" from gentoo11:58
vegasmy cousin should be home soon, i think tomorrow, actually, and after working for blackwater for three years he made enough money to retire11:58
PhinnFortis there some folder under ~/.kde which I can delete?11:58
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JucatoPhinnFort: as in remove any modification you havee made to it?11:58
PhinnFortJucato: something like that11:58
lucio_hi!11:58
JucatoPhinnFort: ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu <-- move or remove that11:59
PhinnFortthanks11:59
PhinnForti'll backup it for now11:59
PhinnFortdo i need to rebuild the ksycoca or something?11:59
JucatoPhinnFort: yep11:59
vegash lucio11:59
mart81someone else has a 82801G intel chip for sound by accident?11:59
vegashi, i mean11:59
PhinnFortJucato: how do I rebuild it again?12:00
PhinnForti never remember the command;)12:00
JucatoPhinnFort: kbuildsycoca12:00
PhinnFortthanks;)12:00
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adydasNight guys12:00
adydasor what ever it is for you all12:00
PhinnFortmidday12:01
vegasnight adydas12:01
mart81morning but thanks :)12:01
vegasyou're crashing at midnight?12:01
vegasbeen a long time since i've gone to sleep that early12:01
vegasi'm a night owl12:01
adydasi have a dog, gets me up at 6:30 am regardless of anyhying else in the world12:01
vegasi normally go to bed at like 10am or so12:01
PhinnFortlol12:01
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PhinnFortnice dog12:01
vegasmy kitten wakes me up in the morning too, but i just lock her out of the room at that point12:01
adydasPITA12:02
PhinnFortlol12:02
vegaspita?12:02
PhinnFortpain in the a**12:02
vegasoh12:02
PhinnFort:P12:02
adydasits a bit harder to lock a hungry bulldog out of your room12:02
vegasi knew i'd seen that one, just forgot12:02
PhinnFortrotfl12:02
vegaswell, that's why i have a cat12:02
adydasand IF i did, it would just go piss somewhere in the house12:02
vegasshe's a great alarm clock though12:02
adydasoverall getting ups somewhat worth it12:02
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adydasas long asi m not up till all hours :p12:03
adydaswell yes, WHEN i go back to work12:03
vegasif i need to wake up in the morning i just lock her in the room with me...never fails i'm awake ten minutes after sunrise12:03
adydasim sure ill love the little Bast***12:03
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vegasoh, i was talking about my kitten12:03
doudouhi all i wanna install beryl on a friend system with the remote desktop12:03
vegasbut yea, i guess the dog would be too12:03
adydas!beryl12:04
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:04
doudoubut apt says it has some broken package ...12:04
doudoucould somebody help?12:04
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adydasa window manager, intresting12:04
vegaswill i be able to use something similar to ultr@vnc to control my linux media center pc with other computers in the house?12:04
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vegasi need something that i'll be able to use from windows too, because my roommates aren't anywhere near ready to make the switch12:05
PhinnFortvegas: yes12:05
PhinnFort*vnc or nx12:05
vegaswhat program will i be able to use from winblows?12:05
PhinnFortvegas: i think nx has a windows client12:05
vegasoh, so i can keep using ultr@vnc?12:06
vegasthat's what i used when the media center pc was a windows box12:06
PhinnForti haven't heard about ultr@vnc before12:06
vegaswell, i guess it still is12:06
vegasbut i'm going to switch it today12:06
vegaswell, if i have enough hdd space to back everything on the raid5 array on there up12:07
PhinnFortwell, you should just use normal VNC or TightVNC12:07
vegasultravnc is for windows12:07
PhinnForti'm not sure which protocol UltraVNC utilizes12:07
vegasoh12:07
vegasnot sure12:07
PhinnFortah, it uses plain VNC12:07
PhinnFortthe linux box is going to be the "host"?12:08
vegaswhat file system should i use for my raid5 array when i convert it to linux?12:08
vegasyes, it'll be the host12:08
PhinnFortext3 would be my suggestion12:08
vegask12:08
PhinnFortit's very rugged12:08
vegasthat's a good thing12:08
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PhinnFortnot very fast, but quicker than most12:08
vegaswell, how is it compared to ntfs?12:09
PhinnFortmuch better12:09
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PhinnForti meant compared to XFS and JFS12:09
vegasah12:09
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PhinnFort;)12:09
vegas!reiser12:09
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.12:09
vegashm12:09
PhinnFortmeh, it's outperformed by XFS in many tests12:10
vegasi care more about stability12:10
vegasthere's going to be a LOT of data on there12:10
PhinnFortthen go for ext312:10
vegasit's a 3750gb array12:10
vegasusable12:11
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PhinnFortshouldn't be a problem, afaik12:11
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nomad111i really need help with this samba problem12:11
PhinnFortnomad111: "bring it on";)12:11
nomad111the shared folder from the other computer isnt getting mounted on at startup12:12
nomad111ill get u the fstab entry in a sec12:12
nomad111/insight/downloads  /media/insight-downloads  smbfs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  012:12
vegashow is kubuntu as far as bluetooth support is concerned?12:13
PhinnFortnomad111: what happens if you try to just "mount /insight/downloads"12:13
vegasi just need it for a mouse and keyboard12:13
PhinnFortvegas: i haven't tried it myself, but afaik KDE is known for rather good bluetooth support12:13
lucio_is there someone i can ask a question?12:13
vegaslucio_: shoot12:13
PhinnFortand Ubuntu is known for good hardware support;)12:13
lucio_well... i need to install the libxine for mp312:13
nomad111PhinnFort: if i do sudo mount -a it comes on12:13
nomad111PhinnFort: forgot to mention that12:14
vegasyea, i hope it plays well with my desktop...i remember the damn gentoo livecd hung up with every kind i tried because of my video cards12:14
lucio_but i can't connect to internet (winmodem)12:14
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PhinnFortnomad111: i'm not sure, but what if you add "defaults" to the list of options?12:14
Jucatolucio_: libxine-extracodecs from the multiverse repository12:14
nomad111in /var/log/messages it says timed out12:14
PhinnFortnomad111: are you sure your network interface comes up before the mounting?12:14
lucio_is it possible to download libxine with another pc (win) and then install them without adept?12:14
PhinnFortmethinks probably not12:15
PhinnFortlucio_: yes12:15
PhinnFortlucio_: download the .deb-file from packages.ubuntu.com12:15
Jucatolucio_: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com12:15
nomad111Phithe drive is visible but nothing in it12:15
Jucatolucio_: make sure you download the "Depends" of libxine-extracodecs, so that you could install those as well, just in case it's not yet installed on the system12:15
PhinnFortnomad111: it's probably just the empty directory where the fs is getting mounted12:16
Jucato(most notably, libmad0 won't be installed afaik)12:16
vegassomebody should make a parody of the recent mac commercials, but add a linux guy12:16
PhinnFortvegas: :P12:16
PhinnFortlucio_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libxine-extracodecs12:16
lucio_ok! ty, just a minute, i'm gonna search that... i'm somehow newby...12:16
lucio_ty phinn! i needed the exact url! :)12:16
PhinnFortlucio_: amd64 or normal 32-bit?12:17
lucio_normal 32 bit12:17
PhinnForthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fx%2Fxine-extracodecs%2Flibxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb&md5sum=8d54a7d44b860054c31fdd4208298620&arch=i386&type=main12:17
vegasPhinnFort: have you seen any of the ones where it's making fun of mac?12:17
JucatoPhinnFort: presuming he's on Edgy right?12:17
PhinnFortchoose a site near you12:17
PhinnFortlucio_: are you on edgy?12:17
PhinnFort;)12:17
PhinnFort6.1012:17
vegashow much does distance to a site really matter?12:17
PhinnFortnot much12:17
PhinnFortbut it helps spreading the load12:17
vegasah12:18
Jucatodistance to a server helps the speed too, afaik12:18
lucio_sorry phinn... i don't remember the code name... it is the kubuntu 06.1012:18
PhinnFortyeah12:18
JucatoI mean, proximity to a server12:18
lucio_i just installed it12:18
PhinnFortlucio_: then the link was right12:18
Jucatolucio_: yep. that's Edgy12:18
Jucatoand PhinnFort presumed right :P12:18
PhinnFortlucio_: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb12:18
PhinnFortdirect link12:18
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PhinnFort:P12:18
lucio_Phinn_: ok! thanks! i'm trying12:18
vegasyea, but for most connections with <5mb download speed, i doubt that it makes that much difference12:18
olimpicoWhat do i need to install my wireless card?12:18
olimpicoapt-get install ?????12:19
PhinnFortolimpico: you shouldn't need to install it12:19
lucio_waiting... i've a dialup too... :(12:19
olimpicoPhinnFort: I think there is some headers or something of the kernel i Should install12:19
PhinnFortolimpico: what kind of card do you have?12:20
lucio_can you tell me what i should do when the file is downloaded?12:20
olimpicoTP-Link, because I read in the internet is worked automatically on ubuntu12:20
bob_i'm a noob with a techno question - least its techno to me...12:20
PhinnFortlucio_: double click on it, i think should do it12:20
vegasis there anything that i can do if my card isn't on the compatability list?12:20
vegasi have another wireless card that i couldn't get to work12:21
PhinnFortlucio_: you should download http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/libm/libmad/libmad0_0.15.1b-2.1_i386.deb too12:21
PhinnFortin case it needs it12:21
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PhinnFortvegas: ext3 supports up to 32TB12:21
vegasi could bring up the wireless manager thing, but it didn't show any networks with that card12:21
PhinnFortbtw12:21
lucio_Phinn_: ty! i'm waiting for the download now.. you're very kind12:21
PhinnFortvegas: try running "iwconfig" in a terminal12:21
vegasok12:21
vegasnot right now though, i'm at a coffee shop12:22
vegasmy house is a block away and...it's really cold outside12:22
bob_i'm trying to mount windows partitions following instructions at psychocats12:22
PhinnFort:P12:22
vegasi wasn't worried about the file system not supporting that much space, i was just worried about stability and whatnot12:22
vegaswhich is kind of a stupid worry when it comes to using linux, i guess12:22
PhinnFortwell, afaik it's one of the stables fs's in the universe, at the moment12:23
bob_i want to know what a umask is and what codes to use12:23
PhinnFortbob_: umasks sets default permissions12:23
PhinnFortlike ability to read and write to files12:23
PhinnFortafaik12:23
vegaswell, i wouldn't go as far as saying the universe12:23
olimpicoAnd how do I cahnge the kernel to a 386 and not a generic?12:23
vegasi'd at least qualify that statement to known universe12:23
PhinnForti wouldn't12:24
PhinnFortit's darn stable;)12:24
PhinnFortbob_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask12:24
bob_phinn i can see 0222 here and 00012:24
bob_phin - ty - i'll take a look12:24
vegasodds are that there's somebody out there, and there's a good likelihood that they have something as stable as ext3 and linux, if not moreso12:24
PhinnFortbob_: also scroll to the bottom here: http://www.datasavantconsulting.com/roland/fileperm.html12:24
PhinnForti just burnt my toast...12:25
vegasi'm not some ufo nut, i'm just saying that the likelihood that another planet was habitable and that that planet has been around long enough to advance past us is not only possible but likely12:25
lucio_Phinn_: ok now i've got: libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb and libmad0_0.15.1b-2.1_i386.deb. i'm going to transfer those in the kubuntu pc, i'll tell you if it works! :)12:25
vegasthat sucks12:25
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PhinnFortlucio_: good luck!12:25
PhinnFort:D12:25
vegasi'm going to make a bagel sandwich when i get motivated enough to walk home12:25
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vegasi'm dreading the 1 block walk12:25
vegasit's that cold here12:25
PhinnFortvegas: taking the probability that life start spontanious, i say it isn't weird that ID has been created12:26
PhinnFort;)12:26
PhinnFortit's cold here too12:26
PhinnFortnorway12:26
bob_phinn i'll go peruse12:26
vegasid?12:26
PhinnFortintelligent design12:26
bob_phinn put more toast on12:26
PhinnFortcreationists12:26
PhinnFortbob_: i don't have any more toasts...:(12:26
vegasgood point12:26
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vegashow cold is it there?12:27
PhinnFortthe chance that life starts by itself, is infinitisemally small12:27
PhinnFort-10 i think now12:27
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PhinnFort!weather12:27
PhinnFortwrong bot12:27
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about weather - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
vegasLOL12:27
bob_phinn isn't there a repository somewhere?12:27
PhinnFort:P12:27
PhinnFortbob_: with toasts?;)12:28
bob_phinn -open terminal - get toast12:28
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vegasit's about -10C here too12:28
bob_phin get toast/not burnt12:28
PhinnFortsudo apt-get toast12:28
vegasit's 10F, so i think that's about the same12:28
PhinnFortrotfl12:28
PhinnFortah, ok12:28
PhinnFortit has just gotten warmer here though12:29
vegasactually, i'd imagine it's closer to ltmq, phinn12:29
PhinnFortwas about -20C here12:29
vegasthat sucks12:29
vegasi miss vegas soo bad12:29
PhinnFort;)12:29
PhinnForti can tell12:29
vegascold there means 10c12:29
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PhinnForti miss kenya12:29
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vegasno, it's just that i play poker so much that my friends gave me the nickname vegas12:29
vegasyou're kenyan?12:29
vegasor did you visit?12:30
PhinnFortno, but my grandmother has moved there12:30
vegasah12:30
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PhinnFortit was purely touristical12:30
vegasi bet it's nice there at the moment12:30
PhinnFortyeah...12:30
vegastouristical...wonder if that's really a word12:30
PhinnFortdoubt it12:30
PhinnFortbut it should be12:30
lucio_Phinn_: gosh... it doesn't recognize my usb pendrive! :o what to do?12:30
PhinnFortlucio_: look in the system logs12:31
vegasPhinnFort: , you're starting to sound like my president12:31
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PhinnFort;)12:31
vegaswell, not MY president, but the president of the us12:31
PhinnFortlucio_: K-menu -> System -> KSystemLog12:31
PhinnFortwell, we don't have presidents here12:32
PhinnFortwe have democrazy12:32
PhinnFort:P12:32
vegaswe're a democratic republic, a good system when it works12:32
vegasif people would vote it'd be a good system12:32
PhinnFort*when*;)12:32
lucio_Phinn_: when i plug it appear a window that ask me "a new medium... what you want to do" i tell him to open in a new window... but i'm afraid i should mount it first? is it right? how to do?12:32
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vegaswe have about 50% voter turnout12:32
PhinnFortlucio_: it does it automagically12:32
PhinnFortjust hit "open in a new..."12:32
donovanvegas: where do you live?12:33
PhinnFortvegas: from what i've heard the votes are counted a bit weird12:33
PhinnFortmaybe that's why people don't care?12:33
lucio_Phinn_: it says: unable to run  the command specified. the file or folder file:///media/PKBACK# 001 does not exist.12:33
vegasmichigan, USA12:33
vegasit's called the electoral college12:34
vegascertain states get a certain number of votes12:34
vegasit's not based upon a simple popular vote12:34
vegasso12:34
vegasyea, it's counted funny12:34
PhinnFortlucio_: ah... I think it's the weird name of your usb pendrive combined with the stupid patches Ubuntu apply to KDE12:34
PhinnFort;)12:34
vegasbut it's not the whole reason why people don't care...americans don't care because we're by and large ignorant12:34
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vegasit embarrasses me to be an american12:35
PhinnFortheh12:35
vegaswe're a country full of idiots12:35
lucio_Phinn_: yes it is the name, i know, but sorry, i didn't told you...12:35
vegasfat idiots, at that12:35
PhinnFortit sometimes embarrasses me to be norwegian too12:35
PhinnFort:P12:35
keNorwegian girls are teh-shit!12:35
PhinnFortlucio_: try to open the file-manager, and type in "media:/" in the address-bar12:35
vegashey, at least you don't have the missing link as a figurehead12:35
PhinnFortke: ;)12:35
PhinnFortrotflmho12:35
lucio_Phinn_: ok i'll try12:36
PhinnFortvegas: have you seen our prime minister?12:36
vegasdude12:36
PhinnFortlet me get you a video12:36
vegasi doubt it'll impress me12:36
PhinnFort:P12:36
PhinnForti think he's closet homophobia12:36
PhinnFortyou'll understand12:36
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vegaswe have a president in power right now that took a $500,000,000,000 surplus and turned it into a near $8,000,000,000,000 deficit12:37
vegasand it's growing daily12:37
vegasour president has made it his agenda to ban gay marriage and stop gay couples from getting benefits for each otehr12:37
PhinnForthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfrY4rRmPFw12:37
vegasand the best part about it is his vice president has a lesbian daughter12:37
PhinnFortrotfl12:38
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vegashow many grammatical errors did your PM make during his last speech?12:39
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vegasmy president made 6 during the STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS this year12:39
vegasthat's basically his mission statement for the year12:39
vegasit was 5 minutes long12:39
lucio_Phinn_: you're great! i did it! i double clicked on libxine-extracodec etc... is it an archive? there are three files: control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, debian-binary. what to do?12:39
PhinnFortwe don't have a standardized spoken language12:39
PhinnFort;)12:39
vegasreally?12:39
vegashm12:39
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PhinnFortlucio_: i'm sorry, i forgot this was kubunut12:39
PhinnFort*kubuntu12:39
vegassee, i'd know that if the american school systems weren't quite so ethnocentric12:40
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vegashell, i graduated college with a 3.8 gpa and i'm still a noob at what i went to school for12:40
lucio_Phinn_: yes is kubuntu... so i can't do what i meant to?12:40
PhinnFortlucio_: right-click, and choose kubuntu package menu, and install12:40
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PhinnFort:P12:40
vegasi'm better off than a lot of the people i went to school with, but take somebody from another developed country with the same degree and i'd look like an ass, most likely12:41
PhinnFort;)12:41
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vegashey, at least your country isn't trying for global domination12:43
haffevegas:  Ok, here in Sweden everybody dreams of getting an american degree.12:43
vegasyou guys should ALL be frightened of the US12:44
vegashaffe: depends upon the institution, i'd imagine12:44
haffeOk.12:44
haffeIf you say so.12:44
PF-Awayvegas: have you seen what we've done in middle east?12:45
PF-Awaywe try to dominate both sides;)12:45
bob_my country used to have global domination - just not sure where we put it12:45
vegasPF-Away: are you american?12:45
PF-Awaynope, norwegian;)12:45
haffeAt least it seems that if your degree is stamped with UCLA, MIT, Princeton or Yale people in sweden don't look further.12:45
PF-Awaywe used to dominate north america12:45
PF-Awaysome ~<1000 yrs ago12:45
vegasyea, before north america was worth anything12:46
PF-Away:P12:46
vegasthen you guys pulled out for no reason it seems12:46
bob_we didn't dominate really - our upper classes did - we just touched forelocks12:46
vegassee, UCLA, MIT, Princeton, and Yale is the same around here12:46
PF-Awaywas no fun anomore12:46
tesukiwhy can't i stream radio streams with Amarok.12:46
PF-Awaybut still your government has some sense of free speech...12:47
PF-Awayour government was to censor our interwebs12:47
PF-Awayat a national scale12:47
bob_yup its free to tell us any lies it pleases12:47
lucio_Phinn_: it seemed 't was allright: i installed as you told, but now amarok doesn't start! :lol: i'm going to reboot and look what happens! :)12:47
PF-Awayblock pornography, internet gambling and torrent stuff12:47
PF-Awaylucio_: try to start amarok in a Konsole12:47
vegasours does too12:47
haffePF-Away:  Freedom of Speach in the US = You can say what you like, as long as the governement allows it.12:47
PF-Away;)12:47
vegasthey already took away internet gambling12:48
bob_i think maybe its law that we have to believe the lies12:48
vegasthey prosecute for torrenting12:48
vegasor try to, at least12:48
lucio_PF_: i'm just rebooting... then if needed i'll try with console12:48
vegasporn though...that's big business here12:48
PF-Awaywell, internet gambling is illegal to host in norway, but they also want to block from other countries12:48
vegasas long as there's no kids or animals involved, it's cool by our govt12:48
vegaswe can't pay any money to internet gambling sites12:49
PF-Awaywell, child pornography is already filtered by KRIPOS12:49
PF-Away(our version of the FBI)12:49
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vegasthey want us to go to vegas or AC12:49
PF-Away:P12:49
vegaswhat's kripos stand for?12:49
vegasthey just banned internet gambling in october, they're now enforcing it12:49
lucio_PF_: it woooorks!!! :)12:50
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vegaswhich will screw me over if i run out of money on pokerstars...it's how i'm paying the rent at the moment12:50
donovanare there any gamers round here, who could help me with a fglrx-issue?12:51
vegasi'm a gamer, but also a *nix n00b12:52
donovando you have ati-card in your linux box?12:52
vegasyup12:53
lucio_PF_: you're really kind! thank you very much! :)12:53
vegasbut my only linux box is my laptop, it's got a radeon 900012:53
vegaspretty soon i'll be trying my desktop with dual x1900xt's12:53
donovanso... how does it work under linux compared to windows games? i notice a remarkable decrease in fps in 3d-games.12:53
vegasbut the laptop was the guinea pig12:53
vegasi'd imagine so...you're going through an emulator of sorts12:54
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donovanno. i've got some games like nexuiz or sauerbraten which have windows- and linux-versions and they really suck under linux.12:54
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vegasi've heard that cedega and wine will give you about a 10-15% hit on framerates, but i'd imagine that varies depending upon the game12:54
MorrisseyCan anyone confirm that kde-look.org is down?12:55
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donovanmore like 50%-80% of fps12:55
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darthdual__Games programmed with openGL work better on linux and Games programmed with directX work better on windows12:56
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PhinnFortnot necessarily12:56
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PhinnFortbut as a thumb-rule, yes;)12:56
darthdual__Assuming you have an Nvidia card on linux12:57
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donovanwell? those games that i have in mind use sdl. at least i think so.12:57
lucio_Phinn_: are you there? did you read what i wrote 5 minutes ago?12:57
PhinnFortthen they probably use GL for 3d12:57
donovannop. ati.12:57
PhinnFortlucio_: that it worked?12:57
PhinnFort[12:50]  <lucio_> PF_: it woooorks!!!12:57
PhinnFortthat was the last i heard12:57
lucio_Phinn_: that it worked, but mainly that i wished to thanks you a lot! :)12:58
vegasdonovan: i've heard ati is the wrong choice for linux12:58
PhinnFortno problem at all;)12:58
vegaswhat card are you running?12:58
PhinnFortvegas: they have lesser support for Linux, yes12:58
donovanwell... i bought my notebook first and then made the choice to use linux. its a x600 mobility series12:58
Morrisseybtw, does anyone have a problem with the latest radeon/fglrx drivers wich was updated through repos? I just get a blank screen12:58
PhinnFortMorrissey: i just use the open source drivers12:59
MorrisseyPhinnFort, where are they?12:59
PhinnFortMorrissey: they come with it by default12:59
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PhinnFortMorrissey: what kind of card do you have?12:59
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MorrisseyATI Radeon 25012:59
linopil\o all12:59
Morrissey9000 series12:59
PhinnFortMorrissey: then imho you should go with the open source drivers01:00
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linopil!printing01:01
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:01
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lucio_bye all!01:03
linopilguys how can I see thru SSH the name of a cups printer.? now looking at ubuntu server with cups printer from Windows thru putty01:03
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linopilIOW I want to connect and print from Windows to a LPT1 laser on ubuntu01:04
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linopilwhere are the shared cups printers in ubuntu? what folder?01:06
PhinnFortlinopil: http://librenix.com/?inode=807701:07
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vegasdamn...i got warned on the demonoid forums01:09
PhinnFortabout what?01:09
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veganrihi i recently tried 6.1 and found it had bugs, and now i am trying to use 6.06 and it is missing lots of programs that .1 had, including wine01:12
bob_phinn - where can i get a short list of common console commands?01:12
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PhinnFortbob_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:13
PhinnFortlinopil: do you need help sharing your printers?01:13
bob_phinn - thats what i need - many thanks01:13
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PhinnFortnp01:13
veganrican someone help please01:14
PhinnFortveganri: have you enabled all the repositories?01:15
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veganriprobably not, how can i do this please ?01:15
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veganrii refreshed each program getter, like synaptics etc01:15
PhinnFortveganri: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories01:15
veganritrying it now phinn01:17
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Jucatohm.. Dapper...01:19
veganriphinn, looks like it might be working...01:19
PhinnFortgood, good01:19
PhinnFort6.06 is dapper, isn't it?01:19
Jucatoyep01:19
JucatoI was just saying hm...01:19
PhinnFortAh... hm...01:20
PhinnFortis it okay for me to join in hmming, btw?01:20
Jucato:P01:20
PhinnFortvegas: regarding our discussion: http://digg.com/politics/Now_it_s_personal_Al_Qaeda_calls_Bush_an_alcoholic_liar01:21
PhinnFort:P01:21
veganrihas anyone used aol on wine ?01:22
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MorrisseyHi! I have just upgraded my fglrx drivers, and upgraded to the latest beryl from repos (not svn) ... but now I only get a white screen, I can rotate the cube and all, but its all white. I can see the frames of open programs, but my entire screen's white .. any ideas?01:23
PhinnFortMorrissey: i think you have the white cube problem i had on Gentoo01:24
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PhinnFortmake sure you're actually running the fglrx drivers01:24
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_rince_hi01:24
MorrisseyPhinnFort, its not just the cube thats white. Its everything01:24
PhinnForti know01:24
Morrisseyok01:24
MorrisseyI use Driver: "radeon"01:24
Morrisseyshould I change to fglrx? Or what should I do? :)01:25
PhinnFortthat really depends;)01:25
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PhinnFortdo you use Xgl?01:25
Morrisseyhehe01:25
Morrisseyaigxl01:25
veganrido i need to reboot for wine to work01:25
PhinnFortthen you shouldn't01:25
_rince_anyone using gpac and x264? i'm looking either for x264 with mp4-file support or at least for a gpac packages which includes headers / libraries01:25
PhinnFortMorrissey: i'll try to start beryl here, please hang on01:25
MorrisseyPhinnFort, what should I?01:25
Morrisseyok PhinnFort01:25
PhinnForthmm01:26
MorrisseyI just boot up with the radeon drivers, then I run: "beryl-xgl" ... it allways worked before01:26
PhinnFortMorrissey: can you post your Xorg.conf somewhere?01:26
MorrisseyPhinnFort, sure, give me a sec01:26
PhinnFortthat's probably wrong01:26
PhinnFortrafb.net/paste, tw01:26
PhinnFort*btw01:26
Morrissey!paste01:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:26
PhinnFortyou should run "beryl-manager"01:26
PhinnFortand choose beryl there01:26
PhinnFortafaik01:27
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MorrisseyPhinnFort, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5705/01:27
Morrisseythat was the only way it worked before .. but Ill try. Be right back, most likely to restart X again =)01:27
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Jucatohm.. shouldn't you have Composite enabled?01:28
Jucatoat the bottom? not really sure01:28
Jucato!beryl01:28
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:28
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MorrisseyPhinnFort, had to restart ... everything locks when I start beryl-manager01:31
PhinnFortnot good01:31
MorrisseyI know01:31
PhinnForti would clean up the xorg.conf a bit01:31
MorrisseyThats why I allways had to just start: beryl-xgl01:31
JucatoMorrissey: have you followed the guides from Beryl?01:31
MorrisseyPhinnFort, hehe, you noticed? :)01:32
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veganriphinn, you rock ! thank you !01:32
MorrisseyJucato, several times .. just didnt work for me01:32
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JucatoATI huh?01:32
PhinnFortveganri: no problem;)01:32
MorrisseyI really should do a fresh install soon01:32
MorrisseyJucato, what else :P01:32
Jucatohm... my experience is limited to NVIDIA unfortunately01:32
PhinnFortMorrissey: you should enable composite01:32
MorrisseyPhinnFort, but did you see something wrong with my sick xorg.conf file?01:32
PhinnFortMorrissey: I couldn't find composite01:33
MorrisseyPhinnFort, hm ... played around with composite for a loong time, that does not work on my card ...01:33
Morrisseyfound it in a forum somewhere01:33
JucatoMorrissey: Composite extension should be enabled in xorg.conf afaik01:33
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JucatoPhinnFort: he has it, "Disabled", and commented out, at the top (I think it should be at the bottom)01:34
PhinnFortMorrissey: it works, but not with flgrx01:34
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MorrisseyPhinnFort, isnt it fglrx I have? Or?01:34
PhinnFortno, you use the open source driver01:34
PhinnFort"radeon"01:34
Morrisseyoh, cool01:34
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mena 8-)01:35
frojndhello guys01:35
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MorrisseyPhinnFort, ok, give me a moment .. Ill enable it and try01:35
PhinnFortok01:35
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frojndis there a way to convert pdf into odt ?01:35
frojndi have 443 pages in pdf, and I need them in odt :s01:36
Jucatofrojnd: try KWord or pdftk01:36
veganripeace, out01:36
PhinnFortpeace, in01:36
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MorrisseyChecking for XComposite extension               : failed01:36
MorrisseyPhinnFort,01:36
MorrisseyNo composite extension01:37
Morrisseyberyl-xgl: No composite extension01:37
PhinnFortthat seems like crap01:37
Morrisseysure does01:37
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JucatoMorrissey: because you have Composite extension disabled in xorg.conf01:37
vegasi did my good deed of the day01:38
Morrisseyoh, doh! I disabled it :) wait a sec, Ill enable it :p01:38
PhinnFortMorrissey: did you enable composite?01:38
vegasi just talked somebody out of vista01:38
PhinnFort:P01:38
PhinnFortvegas: gratz;)01:38
PhinnForti did a couple of guys last week01:38
Morrisseyvegas, good for you :)01:38
vegasi got them to go for mac, actually01:38
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PhinnFortnice;)01:38
Morrisseyif they love eyecandy make them use beryl01:38
JucatoMorrissey: try putting it at the bottom of xorg.conf too01:38
DiGiTXhey all01:38
vegastoo much of a noob for linux, but the guy said he'll try dual booting01:38
frojndjucato: is pdftk somekind of plugin for kpdf ? I can't find pdftk01:39
Jucato!pdftk01:39
ubotupdftk: A useful tool for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12-11build1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2140 kB01:39
vegasi wish i could get my wifi to work on os x for this laptop01:39
Jucatofrojnd: it's a seperate app. KWord can open/edit PDF's. so you can open it and save it as ODT01:39
vegasor osx86, or whatever you want to call it01:40
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vegasactually, since i've been at this coffee shop i've talked three people out of vista01:40
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PhinnFort:P01:40
PhinnForti have a crapload of programs installed...01:40
frojndJucato: so pdftk is together with Kword?01:41
Jucatofrojnd: no01:41
vegaslol...one of them came to me actually...the background on desktop 1 was the bad vista logo01:41
Jucatofrojnd: sorry if I'm confusing you. pdftk has nothing to do w/ KDE. it's a command line utility01:41
vegasthey asked why i don't like vista01:41
frojndJucato: ok01:41
vegasi told them it was the same reason i don't like aids...it's just plain unpleasant01:41
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PhinnFortrotfl01:42
MorrisseyAll the checks passes and everything .. and then I just get this big white screen ... though I can rotate cube01:42
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Morrisseyworked fine before upgrade01:42
JucatoPhinnFort, vegas: interesting discussion, fit for #kubuntu-offtopic :)01:42
tp_hi01:42
PhinnFort:D01:42
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tp_can someone help me?01:42
vegashow do i get the cube to work?  my friend chris has that working, and i'm jealous01:43
Jucatotp_: please state your problem. if someone can, someone will01:43
vegasalso, is there a keyboard shortcut for switching desktops?01:43
Jucato!beryl | vegas01:43
ubotuvegas: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:43
vegassorry, Jucato01:43
Jucatovegas: using beryl?01:43
Jucatovegas: no. I'm just pointing you to the links for more info01:43
vegasnope...guess i'll start01:43
vegasno, i was apologizing about being off-topic01:43
vegasnot for being a noob01:43
Jucatonah, it's ok. it happens (the offtopic part)01:44
Jucatothe noob part is unforgivable01:44
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Jucatoj/k01:44
tp_i have kubuntu edgy 6.10 and as soon as i try to enter control-pannel/monitor,my monitor freeze01:44
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tp_and i'm forced to restart my pc01:44
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Jucatohm... tp_, better wait for some more people to come in and ask again... sorry couldn't help01:46
tp_ok...thx anyway01:46
tp_u have no idea?01:46
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Jucatome? nope01:46
tp_ok :)01:46
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stdinJucato is just here to stop off-topic discussion :P j/k01:47
MorrisseyIve searched the forums ... seems like a comon problem but noone knows how to fix it01:47
tp_uhm...crafic card problem i guess01:47
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Jucatovegas: I don't chase after people. I can reach them wherever they are :)01:48
tp_even when i use firefox o_O01:48
Jucatotp_: what card, btw?01:48
tp_ati x20001:48
vegasthe chase is half the fun, Jucato01:48
tp_bleah!01:48
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Jucatohm..01:49
dettoaltrimenti_is there any way to have firefox show up in the system tray when it's on?01:49
Jucatotp_: what's your reason for going to the monitor config?01:49
vegasactually, Jucato, this is probably a conversation that would go best in #kubuntu-offtopic01:50
tp_dettoaltrimenti: italiano?01:50
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ju_bonjour01:50
Jucatovegas: I wasn't continuing the conversation, if you've noticed01:50
linopillookin tyvm PhinnFort now on irssi. can it find some 100 lines backwards in channel some link a guy gave me ? tis on librenix01:50
vegassorry, i've been up learning how to use linux for a good 35 hours, i'm getting loopy01:50
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: I vaguely remember an app that lets you do that. not in the repos, though01:50
Jucatolinopil: <PhinnFort> linopil: http://librenix.com/?inode=807701:51
linopilphinnfort gone01:51
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linopiltyvm01:51
Jucatoywvm :D01:51
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Jucato!kdocker | dettoaltrimenti_01:52
ubotudettoaltrimenti_: kdocker: minimize all applications to system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 324 kB01:52
Jucatolooks like it's in the repos after all01:52
linopilit's an ubuntu linux file/printserver for linux there on librenix. nice !01:53
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vegaswhere do i look for my version of kubuntu?01:54
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Jucato!version | vegas01:54
ubotuvegas: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell01:54
vegasand are the versions the same for ubuntu and kubuntu?01:54
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stdinsame name for both01:55
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Jucatosame codename and release version01:55
vegastyvm Jucato and stdin01:55
dettoaltrimenti_thanks Jucato01:57
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dettoaltrimenti_does anyone know how much space it would take to install all 20,000 packages from adept- in universe and multiverse?02:00
Jucatomore than the DVD installer I bet...02:01
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stdinI would think about 4 or 5 DVDs, minimum02:03
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haffeI think it would be easist treated as a statistical problem.02:03
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yaccinhi02:03
Morrisseybut why would you do that?02:03
haffeAssume the size of each package is Xi, where Xi is some stochastic variable.02:04
dettoaltrimenti_is there a graphical way to use kdocker? like a right click option or anything?02:04
yaccinim having a problem with my wacom02:04
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: try to do a Google on it. iirc ther is02:04
Jucatothere*02:04
dettoaltrimenti_thanks02:04
=== Morrissey just failed his statistics course ... so thanks haffe :P
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haffeOk.02:04
haffeI passed mine on the 2:n try.02:04
MorrisseyHopefully so will I  ...02:05
Morrisseyyou taking a master of science?02:05
xsachai passed stats! :D02:05
Morrisseygood for you xsacha  :P02:05
haffeMorrissey:  Yes.02:05
haffeM.sc. Mathematics.02:05
Morrisseyhaffe, same here .. on my second year02:05
xsachai still know nothing about it.. but i did while i was doing the course02:05
Morrisseyhaffe, communication technology02:06
haffeOk.02:06
xsachaim sure if i looked at it, it'd all coming rushing back to me02:06
Morrisseyat what? stats?02:06
xsachayeah02:06
MorrisseyIts not that hard really ..02:06
Morrisseybut this years exam was insane02:06
haffeOk.02:07
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haffeMy university holds three exams each study year for each course.02:07
stdinhmm02:07
stdin!offtopic02:07
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:07
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Morrisseyhaffe, oh really? I have 8 courses a year with 1 (sometimes 2) exams each02:07
haffeUmm, what I meant was that the exam is given three times, but you only have to pass once.02:08
yaccinhow can i get the scroll-wheel of my wacom working?02:08
haffeThe point is that some examiners think that the further from the course the exam is. the harder the exam should be.02:09
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Morrisseyhaffe, oh, I see ... we have one in the summer as well as the one given for christmas/spring ... 2 times. But you really could take it as much as you like =)02:09
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vegas!tar02:13
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:13
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epimethdoes dapper not support firefox2?02:14
stdinepimeth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion02:15
epimethall right02:15
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user__hi room02:16
yaccinhow can i get the scroll-wheel of my wacom working?02:16
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haffeyaccin:  Read up on ubuntuguide.org02:16
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andremarte!italiano02:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:17
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yaccinhaffe: this covers only basic functionallity02:21
yaccinbut the scroll wheel and the 2 buttons on the tablet dont work with this guide02:21
haffeOk, not even with imwheel/edev?02:22
yaccini dont know what that is ^^02:22
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yaccin*installing imwheel*02:23
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yaccindo i have to configure imwheel?02:24
yaccinand how do i do that?02:24
yaccinah02:24
yaccin-c02:24
yaccinbut it seems not to work02:25
vegasi get this error when running ./configure for beryl:  http://fora.demonoid.com/index.php?topic=24352/508162#50816202:26
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vegasoops02:26
vegasone sec02:26
Jucatohm...02:26
vegaschecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool02:26
vegasyea, beryl wasn't trying to send me to demonoid02:26
Jucatovegas: does the beryl website have instructions on required packages/headers/libraries for compiling beryl?02:27
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vegasprobably02:27
vegasi'll look02:27
yaccinwhy compile beryl?02:27
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Jucato:)02:27
vegasyaccin: , i'm a noob02:27
yaccinthere are repos :)02:27
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vegaswhat's a repos02:27
Jucatovegas: noobs don't compile stuff :)02:27
vegasand how do i use it02:27
Jucatoalthough they ask about compiling...02:27
vegaslol...apparently02:28
Jucato!repositories02:28
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:28
yaccinthere are instructions on wiki.beryl-project.org02:28
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Jucato!beryl | vegas02:28
ubotuvegas: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:28
stdinhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Compile_requirements02:28
yaccinid use the repo02:28
yaccinits easy, simple and works great02:28
Jucatovegas: that website and that channel (the topic in there) have more helpful links02:28
stdinhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu02:28
westbaerhello02:28
yaccini actually use the svn-repo ^^02:28
yaccin#beryl may also be helpfull02:28
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vegasthanks guys...sorry again for the dumb noob questions02:30
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yaccinthere are no dumb questions :P02:30
Jucatovegas: repository: as the name suggest, it's an online database/storage (aka repository) of packages that are compiled, built, and ready to install for Kubuntu (all official *buntus)02:31
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vegaslol...i prefer mr. garrison's version..."there are no stupid question, just stupid people."02:31
yaccin^_^02:31
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Jucato"there are no stupid questions, just stupid people who don't ask questions"02:33
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niki_hi02:34
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vegastouche, Jucato02:34
Jucatotouch, right?02:34
Jucato(just checking my spelling)02:34
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vegasyea, i just can never remember how to make the accent symbol02:34
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Jucatoit usually is the right Alt key by default02:35
JucatoR-Alt + ' + e02:35
stdinR-Alt + ' +e =  (for me)02:35
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stdinR-Alt + ; +e =  (again for me)02:36
JucatoO.o02:36
Jucato?02:36
Jucato; + e02:36
stdinyep02:36
Jucatook anyway...02:36
vegashm...just realized this, but i don't think that my right alt/ctrl work02:36
joe123hey ppl I'm having a "kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init".. error msg02:36
joe123this is when I put the Kubuntu 6.10 cd, and put Install kubuntu02:37
joe123black screen with a lot of things, and then that02:37
joe123that happens when the system is loading the Linux ernel02:37
jean-bhi, i run kubuntu edgy, should i install beryl xgl, aiglx or nvidia?02:37
yaccinR-alt + = 02:37
yaccin^^02:37
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vegashow do i find what to add to adept so that i can use it for beryl?02:38
vegassorry if that's worded funny02:38
stdinvegas: dapper or edgy ?02:38
vegasedgy02:38
vegasi'm about 26 hours into this linux thing02:39
jean-bhi, i run kubuntu edgy, should i install beryl xgl, aiglx or nvidia?02:39
vegasonly other time i used it was to hack tivos02:39
yaccinjean02:39
stdinvegas: have you already got aiglx or xgl?02:39
yaccindepends02:39
vegasi don't think so02:39
Jucato26 hours and already you want to install one of the hardest things to do currently? O.O02:39
yaccinyou have n nvidia card?02:39
jean-byaccin: yes02:39
vegasbut...it looks cool02:39
vegasso yes02:39
vegasi'm not scared02:39
vegasjust naive02:39
yaccinberyl is not hard to install :)02:39
vegasati02:40
Jucatoyaccin: I didn't say it was hard to install :)02:40
yaccinjean-b: then just install beryl and start it02:40
Jucatoit's harder to make it work well )02:40
yaccinno need for more configuration etc02:40
jean-bberyl nvidia then?02:40
stdinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl02:40
Jucato:)02:40
yaccinJucato: depends02:40
yaccin:D02:40
joe123hi... i'm having a kernel panic error msg02:40
yaccinbut mostly it isnt02:40
joe123attempted to kill init02:40
joe123this happens when I put the kubuntu 6.10 cd02:41
joe123and put install02:41
yaccinJucato: for nvidia... simply install and run.. aiglx... make aiglx work and simply run it... i wont suggest xgl... xgl is the worst part of it :D02:41
frojndJucato: have u ever try to use Kword, to open pdf and save it into odt?02:41
joe123the systems starts to load the kernel, and then that comes up02:41
joe123any ideas?02:41
niki_can I install mysql in kubuntu02:41
vegasok, so aiglx or xgl?02:41
frojndI have some difficultys with this file http://rs4.rapidshare.com/files/16409629/SEMINARI_I-VII.pdf02:41
vegaswhat the difference?02:41
Jucatoyaccin: "making it work" includes fixing disappearing window borders :)02:41
frojndJucato, if u have time and will, please try for me02:41
yaccinvegas: when you have nvidia you dont need any of them02:41
yaccinelse i suggest aiglx02:41
yaccinJucato: thats simple :)02:41
Jucatofrojnd: I have. but iirc opening a big pdf takes time...02:42
Jucatoyaccin: ok. then you're the perfect person to help vegas02:42
yaccinyou have beryl-manager (icon in the tray) and theres an option in the menu which fixes that in 99% ^^02:42
Jucatobecause my experience wasn't that simple02:42
vegasdamn...i'm already being handed off02:42
yaccinhe :)02:42
yaccinvegas: you have n nvidia card?02:42
vegasno, ati radeon 900002:42
yaccinah02:42
vegas!aiglx02:43
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.02:43
yaccinyou play 3D Games on that PC?02:43
vegasno, i use my home computer for that02:43
yaccinok02:43
vegasthe one that cost more than my car02:43
yaccinyou have frglx drivers installed?02:43
vegasor should have :)02:43
vegasi don't know...just installed standard kubuntu install02:43
yaccinok02:43
yaccinthen you need to change your graphicscard driver to radeon02:44
frojndJucato: When I opened this pdf file in odt, was some jigsaw with background color02:44
yaccinthen install beryl02:44
yaccinand i think it should simply work02:44
frojndso if u know how to disable background color in original pdf..02:44
yaccinwhen not you have to edit something in yiur xorg.conf02:44
frojndI think this would help a little02:44
Jucatofrojnd: oh ok... sorry if I can't be of more help...02:44
vegaso.O02:45
frojndif u would try that would be big help02:45
vegaschange...driver i don't understand02:45
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yaccinvegas: you know how to open your xorg.conf in kate? ^^02:45
vegasnegative02:46
yaccinalt+f2 > "kdesu kate /etc/xorg.conf"02:46
yaccinerr02:46
yaccinalt+f2 > "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"02:46
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vegasgave me some failed to open device errors and opened a basically blank kate file02:47
yaccin /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:48
yaccintry that one ^^02:48
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vegasis that XLL or x11?02:48
JucatoX1102:48
dettoaltrimenti_does anyone know how to export mail from thunderbird, to import into another thunderbird on another computer?02:48
vegasas in the number?02:48
Jucatoyes02:49
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yaccin22/202:49
dettoaltrimenti_please help02:49
yaccinthen search Section "Device"02:49
vegasbash:  /etc/x11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory02:49
Jucatoer sorry, dettoaltrimenti_. that yes was for vegas02:49
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Jucatovegas: X11 not x1102:49
dettoaltrimenti_heh oh ok02:49
yaccinits an X not an x02:49
yaccin^^02:49
Jucatovegas: Linux is case sensitive02:49
dinosaur-rushi02:49
yaccinand there change Driver "ati" to Driver "radeon"02:49
dinosaur-rushow can I remove "Switch User" item from K Menu?02:50
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yaccinin the same section add this line: Option"XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"02:50
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yaccinsave and close02:50
yaccininstall beryl02:50
yaccinreboot02:50
vegasworks...case sensitivity is the devil02:50
yaccinrun beryl-manager02:50
Jucatoreboot?02:50
vegasi capitalize nothing02:50
yaccinshould work02:50
yaccinJucato: or restart x-server02:50
yaccin:P02:50
Jucatoshake off the Windows habit heheh :)02:51
yaccin:P02:51
Jucato3R's - Reboot, Reformat, Reinstall02:51
yaccinoh02:51
yaccinvegas: at bottom of the file02:51
yaccinadd this:02:51
Jucato:P02:51
yaccinSection "Extensions"02:51
yaccinOption "AIGLX" "enabled"02:51
yaccinEndSection02:51
yaccinthen save and close02:51
yaccininstall beryl02:51
yaccinand hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace02:52
yaccin^^02:52
Jucato:D02:52
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epimethhas anyone got wine working?02:52
yaccini have02:52
epimethon 6.06.102:52
epimethoh!!! beryl!!!02:52
yaccin:D02:52
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epimethmore important :-)02:52
yaccinhehe02:52
yaccinepimeth: ati or nvidia?02:52
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epimethI want it02:52
epimethnvidia02:53
yaccininstalled drivers already?02:53
epimeththey won't work :-(02:53
yaccinwhy?02:53
yaccinwhich graphics card?02:53
yaccingeforce2ultra=02:53
yaccin?02:53
epimethfirst I got a segfault, then I fixed that and X stopped loading02:53
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epimethgeforce 2 mx 40002:53
yaccinhm02:53
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yaccinone moment02:53
epimethprobably the oldest non-legacy card :-)02:53
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yaccinoh its non-leagcy?02:54
yaccinare you sure? :D02:54
huXfluXDoes anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank you!02:54
epimethpositive... checked 3 times02:54
epimeththe legacy drivers gave me a segfault02:54
epimeththe others didn't, but didn't work, either02:54
epimeth:-)02:54
yaccinhmm yes your right02:54
yaccinuhm02:54
yaccinso you dont have them installed atm?02:55
vegasok...now for the next question...how do i install beryl02:55
yaccinvegas: wiki.beryl-project.org02:55
vegasi still haven't figured out how to add the repository for it02:55
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yaccinadd a repo to apt ^^02:55
yaccinkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:56
yaccin:)02:56
yaccinadd the repo to that file02:56
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hellcattravhey how do i use a USB flash drive, do i have to do anything after i stick it in th USB slot?02:56
vegaswhat's the repo address02:56
yaccinits in the beryl wiki02:56
yaccintheres an official one and the svn-repo02:56
yaccinhellcattrav: a window should pop up where you can choose what to do02:56
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hellcattravoh ok02:57
hellcattravcool02:57
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yaccinhm02:57
yaccintoo fast02:57
yaccinhe should be sure to always savely remove the device02:57
yaccin:D02:57
epimethah!  too much02:57
yaccinepimeth: you have the drivers installed atm?02:57
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epimethlol02:58
epimethokay02:58
epimethno, the nvidia drivers are not installed02:58
yaccinok02:58
epimethno02:58
yaccinthen sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx02:58
epimethuninstalled them02:58
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yaccinand then change your corg.conf to use them02:58
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yaccinif you cant get the drivers to work, then im afraid beryl wont work02:58
yaccinbut geforce 6200 are cheap :)02:59
yaccinand fast ^^02:59
yaccini had a 2 ultra before i switched to 620002:59
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yaccinyes, it was a legacy-card :D02:59
epimethcheap?  whats that?02:59
epimeth:-)02:59
yaccinit was about 50 i think03:00
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epimethits nice that you have 65 dollars to spend wisely... I, however, do not have the required 300 shequels03:01
epimeth:-p03:01
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epimethokay... nvidia-glx installed03:01
huXfluXDoes anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank you!03:01
epimethand xorg.conf file open03:01
yaccinepimeth: search Section "device"03:01
epimethhuXfluX: sorry, dunno03:01
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yaccinchange Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia"03:01
mzuverinkanyone use amarok with there ipod?03:02
yaccinsave. close and hit Ctrl+alt+backspace... should work ^^03:02
mzuverinkI am wondering if it will put the album art on the pod03:02
yaccinmzuverink: i dont have a ipod yet03:02
yaccini think so03:02
yaccin /hoe03:02
yaccin /hope03:02
mzuverinkI dont see anywhere in the config to do so03:02
yaccinhmm03:03
yaccinit doesnt by default?03:03
epimethokay... bbs... gonna ctrl-alt-del da bitch03:03
yaccin^^03:03
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yaccinworks?03:04
yaccin^^03:04
epimethwell... x is working... dunno if glx is working tho03:05
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epimethholy shit03:05
yaccinyou had a funny nvidia-logo after hitting ctrl+alt+backspace?03:05
epimethyou gotta be kidding me03:05
Morrisseyepimeth, glxgears03:05
yaccinwhy?03:06
epimethno nvidia logo, but direct rendering: yes03:06
yaccinok03:06
epimethtada!03:06
yaccinthen its good :)03:06
epimethall right03:06
epimethwtf03:06
yaccinjust install beryl then03:06
yaccinshould work ootb03:06
epimethwhy did it not work when I tried before???03:06
yaccinmabe you didnt change you xorg.conf?03:06
epimethubotu, take me home!03:06
epimeth!beryl03:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about take me home! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:06
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:06
epimethno... thats not what I meant, you stupid bot!03:07
yaccinwiki.beryl.projects.org03:07
epimeththere'03:07
epimeths one in help.ubuntu no?03:07
Morrisseyberyl still gives me only white screen after upgrade .. anyone got a sollution to this yet?03:07
yaccinsvn is nice.. most features but isnt as stable as official repo03:07
yaccinmirshafie: ati/nvidia?03:07
yaccinerr03:08
yaccinMorrissey:03:08
Morrisseyati ...03:08
yaccinxgl?03:08
Morrissey:) put 2 and 2 together :P03:08
yaccinor aiglx?03:08
Morrisseyaiglx03:08
yaccinhmm03:08
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yaccinsvn?03:08
Morrisseyseems like a comon problem03:08
Morrisseynah, repos03:08
yaccinhmm03:08
huXfluXDoes anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank you!03:08
yaccinsvn works fine here :)03:08
toxidashi all03:08
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Morrisseyyaccin, do you have the repo for the svn?03:09
Morrisseymaybe Ill try that03:09
toxidasi wnt to play games via cegeda i've installed hommv but cannot start?03:09
epimethyaccin: all I do now is add the dapper beryl repos and do an dist-upgrade?03:09
toxidasanybody help03:09
toxidas?03:09
yaccinif you have dapper ^^03:09
yaccinno03:09
Morrisseyepimeth, sudo aptitude install beryl03:09
yaccinnot and dist-upgrade03:09
epimethsorry... and then an install beryl?03:09
Morrisseyhave kubuntu :)03:09
yaccinyes03:09
toxidasor should i try wine instead03:09
yaccinsudo apt-get install beryl03:09
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yaccintoxidas: search "franks corner" on google03:10
Morrisseyyaccin, do you have the edgy repos for beryl svn?03:10
yaccintheres help for some games on wine03:10
yaccinMorrissey: yes i use svn on edgy03:10
yaccini switch to feisty this evening ^^03:10
Morrisseyok, do you have the repos link? :)03:10
toxidasthanx03:11
yaccinMorrissey: should be in the beryl wiki ^^03:11
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yaccinhttp://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=70&hilit= oor look there for svn03:12
epimeth!paste03:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:12
epimethhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5719/03:12
epimethyaccin: any ideas?03:13
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yaccinepimeth: those are REALLY old repos03:13
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yaccinthey dont work03:13
yaccinif you want try svn version then look at http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=70&hilit=03:13
yaccinelse ill get a link for you in a minute03:13
epimethcheers03:15
yaccinhttp://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/03:15
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frojndJucato, any luck?03:15
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naphhi, is the latest kernel version with kubuntu 2.6.17?  is there any way of getting a package for a more recent release?  thanks03:15
BluesKaj"Morning folks03:16
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epimethvaccin: so deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ dapper main03:16
epimeth?03:17
epimethmorning Blues03:17
BluesKajnaph, it's the latest stable version03:17
yaccinif you have dapper, yes03:17
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yaccin:)03:17
BluesKajhi epimeth03:17
naphok, no way of getting an unstable version? :-/  (though i don't wanna go outside the package system and compile myself really)03:18
yaccinnaph: i think feisty has a newer kernel03:18
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yaccinbrb03:18
epimethyaccin: I got the no pubkey again... do I *need* to verify?03:18
naphok, thanks for the info! :D03:19
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BluesKajfiesty 2.6.1903:20
epimethwhat about it?03:20
BluesKajAFAIK 2.6.17 is the latest stable kernel for edgy as well03:20
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Tm_TBluesKaj: True.03:20
jean-bhi03:20
jean-bi've just installed beryl; loaded it03:20
jean-bbut have no effects03:21
Tm_TOnly way to get newer working kernel to 6.10 is to compile yourself.03:21
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jean-bso i want to remove it03:21
Tm_T!xgl | jean-b03:21
ubotujean-b: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:21
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jean-bthanx Tm_T03:21
jean-bi''ve followed this guide03:22
jean-bhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia03:22
Tm_T"- Help in #ubuntu-effects"03:22
Tm_T;)03:22
jean-bnobody answer in ubuntu-effects03:23
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blue|palmi know this might be a silly question: but when is 7.4 set to be out? April?03:24
jean-bi want to reverse what i've done with http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia03:24
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vegaslol...apparently removing a dvd burner and putting it back in makes linux PISSED03:24
jean-bhow can i do it?03:24
BluesKajnaph, well, this site should help :http://www.kernel.org/03:25
yaccinvegas: if your system was running while you did that its a normal reaction03:25
yaccin:D03:25
JucatoBluesKaj: yes. it's 7.04 = 2007-04 = 2007 April03:25
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vegaswill it do that for usb devices?03:26
yaccinusb works great03:26
yaccinbut03:26
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vegasbut?03:26
yaccinbe sure to ALWAYS savely remove the device03:26
BluesKajnot the newset official release  Jucato , naph was aking about the latest kubuntu kernel ...that would be fiesty03:26
vegasoh03:27
vegaswhat happens if you don't?03:27
yaccinelse you get "empty" files on your mp3player for example03:27
vegasah03:27
JucatoBluesKaj: <blue|palm> i know this might be a silly question: but when is 7.4 set to be out? April?03:27
incorrectcan i get opera for kubuntu?03:27
yaccinusb scanners webcams etc are "safe" to just disconnect03:27
yaccinincorrect: yes03:27
yaccin!opera03:27
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser03:27
JucatoBluesKaj: er sorry03:27
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Jucatowrong tab completion03:27
Jucatoblue|palm: yes. it's 7.04 = 2007-04 = 2007 April03:27
Jucatodarn03:27
BluesKajdunno exactly Jucato03:28
yaccinJucato: 7.03 is already available but only as an alpha-release03:28
yaccinerr03:28
yaccin7.0403:28
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yaccinso you shouldnt use it03:28
yaccin:D03:28
vegasman, kodometer is sweet03:28
theD3viLwhy i have to click to mount my windows disk or mp3 player in storage devices? How to do automatic?03:28
incorrectwow sweet!!03:28
vegasapparently i've moved my mouse a few hundred meters in the last couple hours03:29
yaccintheD3viL: add them to your /etc/fstab03:29
JucatoBluesKaj: sorry, it was a misdirected answer03:29
incorrectopera should just let people include it in the distro03:29
yaccinmp3 players are not suggest to do so03:29
theD3viLyaccin: thats the only way?03:29
yaccintheD3viL: one moment03:29
theD3viLok03:29
yaccinincorrect: no, opera sucks03:29
yaccin:P03:29
yaccinits not free software03:30
yaccinso it will never be included in a debian based distro03:30
incorrecti just need another spare browser03:30
yaccinkonqueror03:30
BluesKajnp Jucato , we all doit once in a while :)03:30
yaccinit rocks03:30
eeoshi there. how do you report / file bug report? where is the tracker?03:30
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incorrectkonq has issues still :(03:30
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incorrectif only there was *puke* *puke* ie03:31
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yaccintheD3viL: when the window pops up for what to do with your mp3-player etc select the option to do that what you want automatically03:31
blindsideuse firefox03:31
blindsidelol03:31
incorrectsadly i have to make sure things work with IE03:31
yaccinincorrect: what issues?03:31
naphbtw (and i know this is a vague question) is feisty stable enough to use now (i don't mind some crashes, and don't have any data loss worries) ??03:31
yaccinIE works with wine03:31
yaccinincorrect: webdesigner?03:31
yaccin:D03:31
incorrectyaccin: well fckeditor doesn't work too well in konq03:31
theD3viLyaccin: what about windows partition? :) the window pops doesnt come up :P03:31
yaccintheD3viL: you have to add them to your /etc/fstab03:32
eeosincorrect there is an interesting package if you want to test with MSIE under linux. we use it.03:32
theD3viLokay, tnx03:32
yaccinmaybe you can do that automatically in systemsettings or kcontrol03:32
yaccinbut i dont know03:32
incorrectyaccin: im not a designer,  i am just building sites,  just for giggles,  sadly one of the people i am helping is getting grumy with me not having their site in ie03:32
BluesKajthere's a version of IE ported for linux without needing wine to run it , but i don't remember where i saw it03:32
jean-bhey guys i've followed this http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia starting from "adding beryl repositories" and i want to cancel everything to come back to my initial state03:32
incorrecteeos: swish03:32
incorrecteeos: where?03:32
BluesKajit's only IE5.503:33
incorrectnevermind03:33
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yaccinincorrect: then i suggest a nice script which installs IE 5.5, 6.0 and 6.5? or 5.0?03:33
incorrecti need 6 and 7 now03:33
eeosincorrect ms ie 5.0,5.5,6.0,703:33
yaccinwell 3 IEs parallel03:33
yaccin:D03:33
yaccin7.0 i dont know03:33
huXfluXDoes anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank yo03:33
incorrectnevermind thats with rdesktop is for :D03:33
jean-bhow can i cancel this sudo echo && wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -03:33
yaccinyou dont NEED any of IEs03:33
yaccin:P03:33
jean-b?03:33
yaccinIEs sucks03:33
incorrectbut i needed a second browser for testing permissions03:34
eeosincorrect http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Congratulations03:34
eeosincorrect download and install beta5 version so you have ms ie 7 support as well03:34
Jucatojean-b: Ctrl+C03:34
eeosincorrect it works very well on kubuntu 6.1003:34
yaccinyay cool03:34
yaccin:)03:34
yaccinuse that script incorrect:)03:34
jean-bJucato??03:34
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incorrectthat is sweet03:35
Jucato<jean-b> how can i cancel this sudo echo && wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -03:35
jean-b?03:35
eeosincorrect this are installatio instruction for kubuntu http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Ubuntu03:35
JucatoCtrl+C cancels the download, but it might be too quick to cancel03:35
eeoshow do you file bug report? where is the tracker?03:36
jean-bit's done already03:36
jean-b i've followed this http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia starting from "adding beryl repositories"03:36
incorrectthanks! :)03:36
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Jucato!bugs | eeos03:36
ubotueeos: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots03:36
Jucatoeeos: for Kubuntu, I presume?03:36
jean-bnow i want to uninstall everything to come back to my initial state03:36
eeosJucato yep03:36
eeosJucato but I think it si also for other derivatives03:37
Jucatojean-b: ah. you mean "undo" not cancel... no problem with that03:37
Jucatoeeos: only if they're using launchpad03:37
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Jucatoeeos: for example, gnewsense doesn't and neither does mepis03:37
eeosJucato no I mean the bug i want to report03:38
Jucatoeeos: ohok03:38
jean-byea Jucato, so far i ve used sudo apt-get remove for the package that i installad03:38
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Jucatojean-b: sudo apt-key del root@lupine.me.uk.gpg03:39
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Jucatojean-b: to undo the apt-key add part03:39
jean-bbut i added a repo and did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:39
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jean-bthis installed a few packages that i want to remove now03:39
jean-bthanx03:40
StrongHi03:41
StrongHow can i kill the arts sound server.. ?03:41
jean-bgpg: key "root@lupine.me.uk.gpg" not found: eof03:41
JucatoStrong: Ctrl+Esc, select artsd, and kill it03:41
jean-bgpg: root@lupine.me.uk.gpg: delete key failed: eof03:41
Strongk tks!03:41
Strong:)03:41
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Jucatojean-b: try to be in the same directory where you downloaded that file03:41
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emjay!it03:42
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:42
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jean-bJucato: i dont remember, the thing is that i removed that repo03:42
SeanTaterHow do I make konqueror turn on java by default (Tools -> HTML Settings -> Java keeps it off by default)?03:42
Jucatojean-b: it's not a repo. it's a .gpg file (a key)03:42
rayluStrong, "killall artsd" is a bit easier03:42
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jean-bJ03:43
rayluSeanTater, you mean load java applets automatically?03:43
jean-bJucato: is there a way to find it?03:43
SeanTaterraylu: yes, at least for one site03:43
JucatoSeanTater: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Java & Javascript03:43
SeanTaterJucato: tried that03:43
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JucatoSeanTater: you set it to?03:44
SeanTaterJucato: uh -- fixed it03:44
Jucato:)03:44
SeanTaterJucato: I had it enables globally, but not for that specific site -- now it works03:44
SeanTaterJucato: thanks03:44
Jucatohm.. ok03:45
jean-bJucato:  is there a way to find that key?03:45
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Jucatojean-b: hm... you know... it's not really important if you remove it or not...03:45
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jean-bi added a repo and did "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:46
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stupiddo you guys know any messanger interface for pandion XMPP (for linux)03:46
jean-bthat installed a few packages03:46
Tm_Tstupid: Kopete03:46
jean-bnow i've removed this repo03:46
yaccinwhat is pandion? o.O03:47
Jucatojean-b: "sudo echo && wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" does not add a repo03:47
jean-band want to remove those packages03:47
Tm_Tstupid: Pandion is XMPP/Jabber client, so any Jabber client works.03:47
Jucatojean-b: removing the key won't remove the packages either03:47
yaccinah03:47
yaccinthen kopete :D03:47
yaccinkopete rocks ^^03:47
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stupidyeap but I do have a corporate server03:47
Tm_Tstupid: Doesn't matter.03:47
stupidthat raise issues03:47
Tm_TIt's still same protocol.03:47
yaccini think you can specify your server in the account options03:47
Tm_TIIRC03:47
stupidokay tim I'll try03:47
jean-bi added it manualy editing the sources files03:47
Tm_TYou _always_ define server somehow.03:48
yaccinjean-b: sudo apt-get remove beryl?03:48
Jucatoyaccin: your area :)03:48
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yaccinTm_T: pssh! dont tell anyone :P03:48
Tm_Tyaccin: Tell what?03:48
jean-byaccin: done already03:48
jean-bdid not like it03:48
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yaccinTm_T: that you always do that ^^03:49
rayluWow...pandion looks nice03:49
yaccinjean-b: then everything from that repo should be uninstalled03:49
slyfoxThose who use Akgregtor - when viewing list of news on a specific RSS feed, is this a bug that when I press down key on my keyboard, akgregator deos not move on to the next news article in the list ?03:49
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Tm_Traylu: Also uses Explorer, so safety-- IMO03:50
yaccinraylu: looks like kopete for windows somhow :D03:50
jean-byaccin: if i remove a repo, everything from this repo is removed also?03:50
yaccinjean-b: no03:50
yaccinbut you removed beryl03:50
yaccinand this is a beryl repo03:50
yaccin:)03:50
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jean-bhow can i remove everything from a repo?03:50
yaccini think you already did that03:51
jean-band sudo apt-get autoremove?03:51
yaccinbecause theres not much other things on that repo then beryl03:51
yaccinyes, try that03:51
yaccinbut why is this so important?03:51
jean-bbecause i like my pc to be clean ...03:52
jean-blol =)03:52
rayluyou should format it nightly :D03:52
yaccin:D03:52
jean-blol03:52
jean-banyway you were speaking about kopote not long ago03:52
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yaccinyes03:53
yaccinkopete <303:53
jean-bwhy doesnt it save my passwords on my pc?03:53
yaccinit should o.O03:53
yaccindoes it here :)03:53
smozemy kopete saves passwords03:53
jean-bi check remember this password, then it ask for permission to access the wallet but it never work03:53
smozeoh, kill the wallet03:54
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jean-bdone03:54
epimethyaccin: still here?03:54
jean-band guys03:54
rayluWhat's wrong with the wallet (besides the fact that its annoying and slightly bloated?)?03:54
jean-bi am using skype a lot03:55
jean-bis there an open source equivalent?03:55
yaccinepimeth: yes03:55
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epimethso now what?03:55
epimethits installed03:55
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epimethhow do I run it?03:55
epimeth:-)03:55
smozeraylu: the fact that it is annoying and it is hard to get rid of03:55
yaccinjean-b: theres a skype-wrapper for kopete it hink03:55
yaccinepimeth: alt+f2 "beryl-manager"03:56
jean-byaccin: yes but it's just a skin03:56
rayluOh yeah, how do I get more "wrappers" for kopete?03:56
yaccinjean-b: i know, but skype is proprietary, so no other solutions03:56
smozeis beryl worth isntalling??03:57
yaccinyou can try to get your skype contacts to switch to a SIP-client03:57
yaccinsmod03:57
yaccinsmoze: depends03:57
yaccini would say yes03:57
yaccin:D03:57
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epimethyaccin: and now what?03:57
epimethI have a ruby in my taskbar03:57
yaccinepimeth: you should have a red icon in your kicker03:57
smozeis there more than just the eyecandy=?03:57
yaccinright-klick on it03:57
Jucatored icon = ruby :)03:58
cryptomHi, what packages do I need to install (or configure), or what files do I need to change to get English language for all applications, but Swiss German dates, keyboard, etc?03:58
yaccinsmoze: better workflow03:58
epimethbrb03:58
yaccinepimeth: select window-manager > beryl03:58
smozeyaccin: compared to kde?03:58
BluesKajsmoze , beryl will be ok id you use nvidia graphics, it works withj ati but at some sacrifice to other effects03:59
yaccinsmoze: uhm its nicer... and looks besser03:59
cryptomI installed localeconf and chose en_US.iso8859-1, a subsequent call to locale tells me that only locales for en_US.UTF-8 are generated03:59
yaccinand has more features03:59
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yaccinbut you dont really NEED most of them03:59
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yaccinoh03:59
yaccinand emerald is great :D03:59
raylucryptom, can't you just modify the Country/Region & Language settings?04:00
yaccinyou can have better skins then with kwin04:00
yaccin^^04:00
epimethyaccin: I did that... the blue bar at the top of Konversation's window dissapeared and I couldn't type anything in the text area04:00
yaccinepimeth: uhm one moment04:00
rayluOr do you want an importable file?04:00
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cryptomraylu, I'm (above all) talking about the console (sorry, forgot to mention)04:00
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cryptomraylu, I dont have X installed on that ubuntu server installation04:00
rayluOh. I've never done it through the console, sorry.04:00
yaccinepimeth: beryl menu > extended options > rendering path > copy04:00
yaccintry again ^^04:01
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epimethyaccin: what? where?04:02
yaccinthe menu when you right-klick the beryl icon04:02
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yaccinextented options > rendering path > copy04:02
cryptomor how do I install more locales? locale -a only gives c, posix and en_US.utf-804:02
epimethno extended options...04:02
yaccinepimeth: i dont know how they are called in english04:03
yaccin:D04:03
raylucryptom, try localeconf04:03
stdin!locale04:04
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf04:04
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cryptomraylu, command not found... I installed the package localeconf and chose en_US.iso-8859-1, but it is not listed when I execute locale -a04:04
jean-bcan i use webcam on linux skype?04:04
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yaccinjean-b: yes04:04
epimethyaccin: I don't see anything like that...04:04
yaccinif its supported04:04
jean-bcan i receive04:05
jean-bvideo from a contact?04:05
yaccinepimeth: can you send a screenshot with the menu open04:05
yaccinoh04:05
yaccinwait04:05
stupidtim its works04:05
stupidthanks04:05
yaccinlinux skype is old version04:05
yaccinwithout webcam support04:05
raylucryptom, strange, i see en_AU.utf8, BW, CA, DK, GB, etc.04:05
Tm_Tstupid: Who's tim?04:05
stupidone headache finished04:05
yaccinjean-b: webcam works with kopete + msn04:05
stupidsorry04:05
stupidTm04:05
raylucryptom, which seems to be in /usr/bin/locale04:06
stupidthanks Tm_t04:06
Tm_T:)04:06
raylucryptom, so I'm guessing you could just install to there.04:06
epimethyaccin: how do I make a creenshot? printscreen didn't work04:06
yaccinksnapshot04:06
cryptomraylu, and how do I install more locales?04:06
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raylucryptom, I'd imagine you just download them and put them there...but if that doesn't work, its not my fault :P04:07
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jean-bso the solution is skype + video on msn?04:08
CainMadnessJust installed Kubuntu on another PC, and it worked fine for awhile, but now it won't let me get much further than the login screen. You type in password and it will attempt to. Gets to just the background picture, but doesn't load anything else. The shell console opens up, and it just sits there... Help?04:08
epimethyaccin: how do I keep beryl manager open and click on knsnapshot at the same time?04:08
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yaccinknsnapshoot has a "timeout" setting04:08
yaccinset it to 2 or 3 seconds04:08
yaccin:)04:08
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epimethyaccin: why aren't you accepting the send?04:10
yaccinoh04:10
yaccinone moment04:10
epimeth:-)04:11
CainMadnessAnyone have a clue about my problem?04:11
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intelikeyCainMadness what it is ?04:11
raylu[09:08:21]  <CainMadness> Just installed Kubuntu on another PC, and it worked fine for awhile, but now it won't let me get much further than the login screen. You type in password and it will attempt to. Gets to just the background picture, but doesn't load anything else. The shell console opens up, and it just sits there... Help?04:11
CainMadness"Just installed Kubuntu on another PC, and it worked fine for awhile, but now it won't let me get much further than the login screen. You type in password and it will attempt to. Gets to just the background picture, but doesn't load anything else. The shell console opens up, and it just sits there... Help?"04:11
rayluHaha. By the way, when you say "shell console" you mean that you see a black screen with white text?04:11
CainMadnessKonsole, yeah.04:12
yaccinok doesnt work here04:12
CainMadnessIt pops up in the top left.04:12
yaccinimageshack.us ^^04:12
rayluoh...so kdm is loaded.04:12
CainMadnessI assume.04:12
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CainMadnessIt just loads the konsole in the top corner, and then.. Sits there. Nothing else loads, not the menu etc.04:13
rayluHm...perhaps you should go into tty1 and try loading kdm from there.04:13
CainMadnessEh...?04:13
rayluCtrl+Alt+F104:13
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CainMadnessMmk.04:13
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rayluHoly crap, there's an op here.04:13
intelikeyCainMadness press ctrl+alt+f1  login   and issue this command,   sudo chown `whoami` $HOME -R     #and log out and press alt+f7   and try to login.04:13
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epimethhttp://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9239/snapshot1jk9.png04:14
intelikeyraylu several04:15
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yaccinepimeth: alt + f2 "konsole"04:15
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yaccintype beryl --replace04:15
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rayluI only see Tm_T as an op04:15
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yaccinand give the output ^^04:16
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intelikeyraylu just because they are not +o doesn't mean they are not opers04:16
rayluoh. Why don't they show themselves as op? And can I identify them?04:16
CainMadnessintelikey: How do I get it to log out from the tty2?04:16
epimethhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5734/04:16
yaccinCainMadness: type "exit"04:16
intelikeyCainMadness type    exit04:17
rayluI also see haggai online, but not in any channels04:17
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emjay!it04:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:17
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intelikeyraylu visit http://freenode.net04:17
yaccinepimeth: you have edgy, right?04:18
epimethno04:18
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yaccinoh04:18
epimethdapper04:18
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CainMadnessintelikey: I tried what you suggestd. When I logged in, it just did it all over again. Konsole in top left, nothing else loading.04:18
yaccinepimeth: then its kinda harder :D04:19
epimethlol04:19
epimethgood04:19
rayluintelikey, m...what am I looking for? And should CainMadness try my suggestion of running kdm from a console?04:19
yaccinhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX04:19
intelikeyCainMadness and if you exit that terminal ?04:19
yaccinyou need aiglx then i think04:19
CainMadnessWhen I exit that terminal, it takes me back to the login screen04:19
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intelikeyraylu kdm is already running.04:19
yaccinoh04:20
yaccinor first04:20
rayluRight, but it may have given off warnings04:20
yaccintry adding      Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" in the screen-section of you xorg.conf04:20
intelikeyCainMadness ok login and in that terminal tupe  startkde04:20
hellcattravlast night in installed ubuntu desktop, but i want to switch back to kubuntu kde, so do i u apt to get rid of ubuntu desktop?04:20
yaccinand ctrl+alt+backspace again.. if this doesnt work you have to use (and install) aiglx, or upgrade to edgy :D04:20
intelikeyraylu not very likely   kdm is not very verbal04:20
rayluhellcattrav, just install kubuntu-desktop04:21
rayluOh :(04:21
hellcattravwell i already have kubuntu desktop04:21
CainMadnessYeah, I tried to do 'startkde' and it said it failed on a lot of stuff, then just brought me back to screen with terminal in the top left.04:21
blue|palmhelp: when i try glxinfo | grep direct on my ati flgrx driver card, it tells me extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display... what does this mean and is it a problem?04:21
intelikeyraylu if this doesn't get it, we'll have him close kdm and use 'startx'  which is verbal04:21
hellcattravand I've got a dual boot windows set up but now when i turn my pc on i get to options for ubuntu(4 total, two that say ubuntu and two that say embedded)04:22
intelikeyCainMadness is that box netowrked ?04:22
rayluhellcattrav, I think you can choose login type at the login screen04:22
CainMadnessEh...? Not sure.04:22
Omnifrogdisk full?04:22
intelikeynet-worked   connected to the net ?04:23
alexiconhow do you fix the broken packages error again?04:23
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CainMadnessYeah, I got that PC plugged up to the net.04:23
hellcattravi can?04:23
alexicon!broken04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:24
alexicon!broken packages04:24
raylualexicon, what error?04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about broken packages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:24
alexicon python-diacanvas2: Depends: python2.4-diacanvas2 but it is not installable04:24
alexiconE: Broken packages04:24
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LjL!info python-diacanvas204:24
ubotupython-diacanvas2: DiaCanvas2 library support for Python (default version). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.14.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 56 kB04:24
LjL!info python2.4-diacanvas204:24
ubotuPackage python2.4-diacanvas2 does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas04:24
StarenHow do you mount an NTFS partition for read access?04:25
rayluo.0. What happens when you try to install python2.4-diacanvas204:25
alexiconE: Broken packages04:25
alexiconthat happens04:25
intelikeyCainMadness you first highlight the error text, then you can use this command    w3b http://pastebin.ca     and paste in the error messages from the startkde output04:25
alexiconapt-cache search brings it up04:25
LjLalexicon: it's broken indeed04:25
alexicondamn04:25
LjLalexicon: apt-cache show doesn't show it04:25
LjLit's broken04:25
epimethyaccin: literally, Option "Addblabla" "True"04:25
epimeth?04:25
alexiconshows it for me04:25
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alexiconi need a uml editor04:25
epimethor just Addblablabla True04:25
epimeth?04:25
alexiconbetter than umbrello04:25
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LjLalexicon: if it shows it, then it should also install it. can you pastebin what it shows?04:25
CainMadnessIt make take me a second to do that intelikey.04:26
alexiconalexis@phaedrus:~$ apt-cache search diacanvas204:26
alexiconpython-diacanvas2 - DiaCanvas2 library support for Python (default version)04:26
blue|palmhelp: when i try glxinfo | grep direct on my ati flgrx driver card, it tells me extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display... what does this mean and is it a problem?04:26
LjLalexicon: alrighty but it's python2.4-diacanvas2 that is missing04:26
LjLalexicon: perhaps try making an equivs and see if it works anyway04:26
LjL!equivs04:26
alexiconok04:26
ubotuequivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB04:27
LjLand file a bug04:27
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CainMadnessI can't get the error messages intelikey. Once it displays them, it shows a new screen of a handprint or something. Some design, and then it brings back to the login screen.04:27
alexiconno time, uml project due in 13 hrs04:27
intelikeyCainMadness ok.  take your time. i need to run an erond    be back in a few.   you can let others look at the pastebin,   i'll be back in a few to look at it if you haven't fixed it yet.04:27
huXfluXDOES anyone know where the location "fonts:/" is located specificaly on the hard drive ?04:28
LjL!fonts04:28
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer04:28
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epimethyaccin: still with me?04:29
LjLalexicon: well you can surely file the bug later - and an equivs is fast enough to make, just run equivs-control filename, edit the file, and equivs-build filename04:29
LjLjust say that the fake package "Provides" python2.4-diacanvas204:29
alexiconty04:29
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huXfluXDOES anyone know where the location "fonts:/" is located specificaly on the hard drive ?04:30
LjLhuXfluX: nowhere.04:31
LjLi've given you information on what the relevant directories should be, however.04:31
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CainMadnessSince intelikey left.. The error messages I can't get to load to pastebin right now. But I can read most of them off for someone. xsetroot and xset cannot open display, ksplash cannot connect to x server, kdeinit aborts from $display not set, ksmserver cannot connect to x server, and then it shuts down the startkde scripts.04:32
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blue|palmhelp: when i try glxinfo | grep direct on my ati flgrx driver card, it tells me extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display... what does this mean and is it a problem?04:34
huXfluXLjL: where !?04:35
haffeblue|palm:  Yes, this is a problem.04:35
blue|palmhaffe: Im in xgl at present...04:36
haffeIt means that the accelerated drivers aren't loaded.04:36
CainMadnessAnyone have an idea?04:36
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LjLhuXfluX: /usr/share/fonts , /usr/local/share/fonts and others, as mentioned in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto04:36
blue|palmhaffe: How do i fix, that would explain alot04:36
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rayluCainMadness, a friend of mine had an error like this, too04:36
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rayluHe needed to edit his Xorg.conf for his video card.04:37
CainMadnessOuch.04:37
haffeblue|palm:  I haven't owned an ATI card since the 9800pro was the hotest piece of hardware around.04:37
londondaveanyone know how to get kde-devel to install in edgy04:37
CainMadnessOkay.. How do I do that?04:37
haffeTry the ubuntuguide.org blue|palm04:37
blue|palmhaffe: thanks04:37
rayluHe had to use vim a bunch :D Not sure what he actually changed, though.04:37
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cryptomI dont manage to get locale -a to generate locales for ISO-8859-1 (I managed to get de_CH locales but with UTF-8 by installing language-support-de). How do I get away from UTF-8?04:37
blue|palmhaffe: would it make any difference that I am currently running XGL?04:37
CainMadnessHmm.04:37
rayluIf you leave me an e-mail address, I'll tell you what he tells me when I see him later today04:38
haffeblue|palm:  Probably not.04:38
BluesKajlondondave, it's not in synaptic ?04:38
CainMadnessHold on Raylu, checking something.04:38
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londondaveBluesKaj: tried it with apt-get install and it just says broken packages04:38
huXfluXLjL:04:39
huXfluXf you'd like to use a fixed font in your terminal, use this command:04:39
huXfluXsudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig04:39
huXfluXDon't change anything on the first and second screen, and choose to enable bitmapped fonts on third screen. Now you can select some new fixed fonts in your gnome-terminal's profile. Terminus is suitable for terminals; to install this font in command line, run apt-get install xfonts-terminus or use Synaptic (see above).04:39
huXfluXbut i don't get any screens ?!?!04:39
huXfluXit just says updating.. regerenating fotns... and there's the bash again04:39
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LjLhuXfluX: true, i seem to recall too that that reconfigure command is ineffective, hold on04:42
CainMadnessAh, got it. A setting was nerfed. Thanks everyone, and someone tell Intelikey thanks!04:42
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LjLhuXfluX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config04:43
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kamieziomek04:44
blue|palmhaffe: I just read the ubuntu guide, and it says that it always reports that no direct rendering available under glx so i am safe :)04:44
huXfluXLjL: now what? reboot?04:45
haffeblue|palm:  Ok.04:46
LjLhuXfluX: i don't think. perhaps you'd have to restart X, though. but install Terminus first - if that's what you wanted to do...04:46
haffeI was wrong apperently.04:46
huXfluXLjL: i wanted to have Console font installed for Konsole04:46
blue|palmhaffe: thanks though :)04:46
huXfluXthis one: /usr/share/apps/konsole/fonts/console8x16.pcf.gz04:46
huXfluXhow do i install terminus?04:46
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huXfluXLjL ?04:48
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LjLhuXfluX: it's explained in that very page, just below the fontconfig part that wasn't working for you. but, err, nevermind: you said Konsole? Doesn't Settings / Font / Install bitmap just work?04:48
xsachawoot feisty fawn herd 4 out tomorrow :D04:48
LjLin the Konsole menu04:48
yaccindamn04:48
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yaccini just downloaded herd 304:48
yaccin:D04:48
xsachalol04:48
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yaccinbut when i install herd 3 and online-update it, is it the same like i install herd 4?04:49
huXfluXLjL: no. it says "Could not install console8x16.pcf.gz into fonts:/Personal/"04:49
BluesKajxsacha, why the celebration? it's not that much different than edgy04:49
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LjLhuXfluX: it installs for me. and i don't even have bitmap fonts enabled. are you on Edgy?04:50
huXfluXKubuntu edgy yeah04:50
xsachaBluesKaj: joking? they have like lasers and 4d effects04:51
yaccinand a time machine04:51
BluesKajeye candy04:51
yaccinand coffeemachine-drivers04:51
BluesKajyaccin, :)04:51
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yaccinand wifi-toaster-interface04:51
yaccinand money-printing support :D04:51
BluesKajno fridge tv tho ...I ain't biting :)04:52
Tm_Traylu: op?04:52
yaccinand built in cure for cancer and HIV :D04:52
LjLhuXfluX: i'll leave for a second to restart X and check if they're working04:52
yaccinBluesKaj: not in an alpha-release :P04:52
mart81now ppc will het unofficial, will the new intel based macbooks run on the i386-image?04:52
xsachaand built-in support for vista capable toasters04:52
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mart81*will get04:52
yaccinlol vista04:52
yaccinmakes it blue toast?04:52
yaccinbtod :D04:52
xsacha4ghz toaster04:52
yaccinblue toast of death04:52
yaccin_D04:52
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BluesKajno support for IE , then I wont migrate to linux , just yet04:53
xsachahavent you heard? it's the black toast of death now :P04:53
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yaccinBluesKaj: you can install IE on linux04:53
Dr_willis0_o04:53
Dr_willisbut why would you want to.04:53
xsachaies4linux :D04:53
BluesKajnot a wine fan04:53
yaccinxsacha: black dtoast is boring :P04:53
xsachathat's vista04:53
yaccinDr_willis: if you are a web developer/designer04:53
Dr_willisyaccin,  i still dont see the logic of that.04:54
BluesKajDr_willis, exactly ...I'm joking of course04:54
yaccini need opera, firex, konqueror and IE04:54
mart81!ppc > mart8104:54
yaccinDr_willis: most people use IE :(04:54
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LjLhuxflux left?04:54
Dr_willisof course if all the browsers followed the standard and the web sites quit doing this Bull$&#&# stuff.......04:54
yaccinbut they dont04:54
xsachathen the world would be a terrible place04:54
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yaccinso i need to hack my css for IE04:54
yaccin^^04:54
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Dr_willisjust start filling 1000000000 bugs a day to MS.04:55
huXfluXLjL: it's ok now04:55
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huXfluXthank yoU!04:55
BluesKajbeen using mozilla type browsers since '99..IE has never been the default browser on any of my machines04:55
Dr_williscss - bah! who needs it. :)04:55
huXfluXjust needed a restart04:55
huXfluX; -)04:55
yaccinDr_willis: o.O who doesnt?04:55
LjLhuXfluX: they work. you just need to do that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" thing, then restart X. Konsole gave you that error because they *were* installed successfully the first time04:55
yaccincss is great04:55
xsachait'd be 100x easier to become a web designer/developer and their pay packets would plummet... that's why MS needs to keep it up04:55
LjLyou just couldn't see them before reconfiguring fontconfig-config04:55
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huXfluXi see :)04:55
Dr_williscss must be broken if IE needs tweaks for it to work right = MS logic.04:55
LjLthey're quite horrible to be honest, though :P04:55
yaccino.O04:56
yaccinIE sucks04:56
yaccin:D04:56
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yaccin:(04:56
yaccinno04:56
yaccinim going home now04:56
yaccin:P04:56
yaccincu later ^^04:56
Dr_willisuse lynx like a real man!04:56
yaccino.O04:56
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xsachai think IE is based off lynx04:56
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Dr_willisjavascript!04:56
xsachajust added a gui04:57
BluesKajnetscape04:57
Dr_willislinks -G04:57
LjLIE is based on Mosaic04:57
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LjLor at least it was, perhaps they've finally rewritten the engine now04:57
BluesKajnetscape was the first browser i ever used04:58
LjLlook in the About box if there's still Mosaic copyrights04:58
juanoBluesKaj: same here :)04:58
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juanoBluesKaj: Netscape in Mac LC 2 lol04:58
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BluesKajof coursae linux was below my horizon then04:58
PaulusVictorAnyone have any experience running WoW with Wine?04:59
LjLno04:59
LjL!wow04:59
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org04:59
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BluesKajwell , Imac originally used IE .... my sister  still uses it on hers04:59
xsachaLjL: when you put in 'wow', how'd it know you meant the game?04:59
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PaulusVictorI've just got an apt-get problem with Wine, something about unmet dependencies.04:59
xsachasurely you were reacting to vista.. "wow!"04:59
LjLxsacha: it's got a database of factoids05:00
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LjLi typed !wow, not wow!05:00
LjLcommands begin with !05:00
xsacha:P05:00
xsacha!vista05:00
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org05:00
PaulusVictorKinda hard to follow the FAQ when I can't get the first step done. :P05:00
tarinhey everyone05:00
Dr_willisPaulusVictor,  you may want to set up the repos to get the latest beta versions of wine for all the latest updates/ and patches05:00
LjL!-vista05:00
ubotuvista has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2007-01-30 21:00:0605:00
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LjLknew that05:00
PaulusVictorDr_willis, is there a forum post or something in the wiki about this?05:01
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cox377hello all05:01
JucatoDr_willis: the latest stable version of Wine is happily in edgy-backports :)05:01
cox377for some reason, after a powercut the login screen has disappeared from kubuntu, you can enter the password and it will log in05:02
cox377does anyone know how to fix this?05:02
BluesKajthe sales of new pc's jumped on jan 30th when vista was released ...just goes to show how effective marketing can be ...even brainwashes half intelligent cutomers who keep hoping Vista will solve their computing probs05:02
tarini checked around and i found out that i need drivers for my radeon X800 in order for ubuntu to work. all i find is "r300_dri.so" though. I dont know what i do with this. Can someone lend me a hand?05:03
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BluesKajtarin, what OS are you in right now ?05:05
tarinXP05:05
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BluesKajwere you able to login to kubuntu at all ?05:05
tarinno. it loads up all the way to the splash screen and it just sits there with little colored line that i can move around but i cant really see the gui05:06
BluesKajthe x800 should work with the std fglrx ati driver in kubuntu05:06
tarinwhere do i get the driver?05:07
tarinon atis site?05:07
tarini kinda answered my own question there05:07
BluesKajit's in kubuntu05:07
tarinoh05:07
tarinthe iso?05:07
BluesKajbut it won't help you if you login05:07
BluesKajcan't05:08
tarinyeah. so are there any alternatives?05:08
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tarincan i find it some where else?05:08
BluesKajsounds like an xserver-xorg problem05:08
tarini dont know what that is.05:08
BluesKajJucato, ?05:08
Jucatohuh?05:09
BluesKajtarin needs help that I'm not sure of05:09
Jucatowho dares disturb my thousand year slumber?05:09
tarinseriously05:09
BluesKaj:)05:09
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tarinawww05:09
Jucatosorry.. I'm an nvidia guy...05:09
tarini dig it man05:09
Jucatoand even in that area, my experience is limited..05:09
BluesKajhe can't get past the login scrn05:09
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Jucatowhat happens when he tries to login?05:10
tarini cant05:10
BluesKajtarin,05:10
Jucatoah05:10
Jucatook05:10
Jucatohm..05:10
cox377is it possible to install the graphical file manager from ubuntu onto kubuntu?05:10
JucatoI'll try to scroll up and read the posts first05:10
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Jucatocox377: Nautilus?05:10
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tarinthe splash screen just sits there and there are multi colored lines just moving around when i press the arrow keys05:11
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apollo2011How do I put a program in the system startup so that it will execute with root privileges?05:11
epimethcan anyone help me with setting up beryl?  yaccin is gone :-(05:11
Jucatoepiq05:11
epimethwho yaccin05:11
BluesKaj!beryl05:11
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:11
Jucatoepimeth: try the guys in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects05:11
Jucato!ati | tarin05:11
ubotutarin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:11
Jucatotarin: have you seen those guides?05:11
cox377Jucato: not sure what it's called05:11
tarini dont know what that is05:11
epimethubuntu-effects told me to buzz off cuz beryl isn't supported on dapper :-(05:11
cox377Jucato: i shall punh that into google and see what it is05:12
Jucatoepimeth: ouch...05:12
Jucatocox377: I'm fairly sure it's Nautilus...05:12
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Jucatobut why you would want to use that... I can't seem to comprehend05:12
epimethI'm way past drivers... I just need to know if I have AIGLX installed05:12
epimethhow do I check that?05:12
Jucatoepimeth: in #ubuntu-effects, the topic has a web page for the Beryl wiki, which has guides for installing beryl even on dapper05:13
tarinwhat is "!ati"05:13
cox377Jucato: basically, i was thinking the file manager for ubuntu or the thing u navigate about with seems a lot more slick that kubuntu on05:13
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Jucatocox377: using that on Kubuntu/KDE would make it less useful though05:13
Jucatotarin: !ati calls the bot with the ATI factoid05:13
Jucato!ati | tarin05:13
ubotutarin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:13
Jucatotarin: please read that guide in the link05:13
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cox377Jucato: hmmm :s05:14
tarini'll take a look at it05:14
tarinthanks :D05:14
Jucatocox377: btw, define "more slick"05:14
mart81cox377: maybe you can look into dolphin, that application comes closer to the gnome-manager i think.05:15
Jucatomart81: it does... including the inability to have tabs... but that would be added soon I heard05:15
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Jucatojust need the breadcrumb widget...05:15
tarinwhat does the guide mean by repositories?05:15
cox377Jucato: well say for instance, you open a file using xmms, the manager looks like something from the 80's05:15
cox377Jucato: or is that xmms dependant?05:15
Jucatothat depends on the music player that you have installed and is used by default05:16
Jucatobut I don't recall that Nautilus does that at all05:16
mart81cox377: err, guide?05:17
xenolhow can i install *.bin files? need to compile?05:17
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Jucatoxenol: ./file.bin (usually)05:17
cox377Jucato: from what i remember ubuntu uses the same one for every application05:17
cox377mart81: what do u mean mate?05:17
xenolJucato:  i want to install google earth :S05:17
Jucatocox377: are you sure that itnautilus05:18
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Jucatocox377: are you sure that it's nautilus that looks like something from the 80's?05:18
BluesKajtarin , there is one thing you can try ,after booting into kubuntu , ctrl+alt+F1 then at the prompt you give your pw , type this : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ..this will bring you back to your Xscrn settings setup , make sure you choose vesa in the video card driver section if your graphics card isn't in the list. then when yer done all the rest of the settings, type ctrl+alt+F7 at the prompt05:18
mart81sorry, i meant tarin (i to find my glasses again..)05:18
Jucatoafaik, it just launches xmms05:18
cox377Jucato: one second, let me find u an image05:18
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epimethjucato:  I'm using that howto, actually...05:19
epimethI'm stuck on    sudo update-alternatives --config Xorg05:19
cox377Jucato: http://keroppix.blogsome.com/images/nautiluss.jpg05:19
epimethI get a "No alternatives for Xorg"05:19
tarinwow uh... ok i'll try that out in just a minute05:19
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Jucatocox377: yes that is Nautilus. I don't recall it taking the shape/look of xmms when you open a file in xmms. maybe what happens is that it (Nautilus) automatically closes when you open a file in XMMS and XMMS launches05:20
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tarinbut i cant even see the prompt, there is nothing visible for me to type in. i'm utterly blind when i start it up05:20
Jucatotarin: Ctrl+Alt+F1 should bring up a text login screen05:21
tarin... ok I'll give it a try05:21
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BluesKajlet it go to the splash scrn first then type   Ctrl+Alt+F105:21
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tarinbtw, i'm actually trying to boot ubuntu not kubuntu. is that any different in terms of startup?05:22
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kufallaI use Alt+F205:22
cox377Jucato: sorry mate, i dont know if we are on the same path, basically, when you go file/open in xmms it gives this really really bad looking fire manager, i've noticed it with a few other applications05:22
kufallato get a command line05:22
Jucatokufalla: tarin doesn't even have X up05:22
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BluesKajJucato, is irssi included in the edgy install, i can't recall ?05:22
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JucatoBluesKaj: starting edgy, they dropped it... (bad decision imho)05:23
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Jucatocox377: er.. you mean the GTK+ Open Dialog box?05:23
BluesKajok , bummer for sure , is the another cli irc client available ?05:23
tarincould kubuntu be kinder to me than ubuntu?05:24
JucatoBluesKaj: not installed by default. you can still install irssi05:24
cox377Jucato: well the box thayt open when u click file open05:24
Jucatocox377: that's not a file manager.. that's just a dialog box...05:24
cox377ahh ok05:24
BluesKajyup I have it ,,, saved my bacon when i had a similar prob with X05:24
Jucatocox377:  you can see a similar thing when you try to open a file/URL in Firefox05:24
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epimethI think I found the problem05:24
epimeththere are no dri modules for my kernel05:25
epimeth!05:25
Jucatocox377: if that's the thing you're looking for, then no... you can't have those on KDE unless you're using a GTK/GNOME app (like Firefox or XMMS)05:25
epimethwhere can I find them for 2.6.15-28-386?05:25
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cox377Jucato: actually, when i do file open on firefox its different to what i get on xmms05:25
Jucatocox377: of course, XMMS is older. it's GTK1. Firefox uses GTK2 or GTK+ iirc05:26
cox377Jucato: ahh i see, i thought it would be default05:26
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cox377to kubuntu05:27
tarinBluesKaj, I'll try your technique.05:27
Jucatono. Ubuntu uses GNOME/GTK. Kubuntu uses KDE/Qt05:27
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tarinThanks for the help all.05:27
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epimethjucato: where can I find dri modules for kernel 2.6.15-28-386?05:28
bxnpguys i want to use xmms as my streaming client with firefox instead of using the mplayer plugin05:28
bxnphow can i do that05:28
Jucatoepimeth: sorry, no idea...05:28
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SmrtJustinIn KDE's System Settings my nvidia driver isn't an option.  Theres only the nv driver in the list.  I have the nvidia driver installed, and it works when KDM comes it I believe the nvidia driver is working, but once I log in I'm stuck w/ a 60hz refresh rate and can't select the nvidia driver.05:35
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Tm_Tintelikey: root?05:36
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intelikeyyeah,  not really.05:36
Tm_TSure I believe you...05:36
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Tm_T!root > intelikey05:36
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intelikey!sudo > Tm_T05:36
intelikey:)05:37
Tm_Tintelikey: Happy valentines to you too.05:37
intelikeylol05:37
intelikeyyeah i guess it is.   well the blessed ole saint spread a lot of cheer i suspose.05:38
intelikeywhat's the command to read memos from memoserv ?05:39
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Tm_Tintelikey: I'm blessed saint?05:39
stdinintelikey: /msg MemoServ read 1 (to read 1st memo)05:39
intelikeyst. valentine05:39
Tm_TOh, he is, ok.05:39
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intelikeystdin hmmm  yeah that's what i typed and got nothing...05:40
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stdintry /msg MemoServ list05:41
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intelikeydid05:41
intelikeysays there are two05:41
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Pensa`MIAhow to configure the special multimedia keys on keyboards?05:42
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kuerniehi all05:42
stdinintelikey: check the "idx" of them05:42
intelikeystdin ooops    auto ignored memoserv...      duh my bad.05:42
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stdinheh05:42
stdinthat would be a problem, yeah05:42
intelikeyflood protection you oknow.05:42
intelikeyknow.05:42
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Pensacolaintelikey?05:43
stdinahh, yeah05:43
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pfein__does PPP work with knetwork-manager?05:43
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stdin!shortcut | Pensacola05:43
ubotuPensacola: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net05:43
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stdin!info keytouch05:44
BCMMmy friend's machine was at 100% disk usage, when the power went out. It came up with a few odd problems...05:44
BCMMmost are fixed now, but there is a weird problem with KDE (or maybe with KDM)05:44
ubotukeytouch: A program to configure the extra function keys of the keyboard. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 412 kB, installed size 1824 kB05:44
PensacolaI do know about keytouch but since kubuntu comes with standard support for my volume keys and stuff, they should be configurable right?05:44
Pensacolaok05:44
Pensacolathx05:44
BCMMlogging in, one ends up with just a  session konsole open05:44
BCMMno kicker or kdesktop05:44
BCMMkdeinit, dcopserver and a few others appear to be running05:44
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BCMMthis problem doesn't happen if i just start X and run startkde05:45
fabrizio_buonasera a tutti05:45
BCMMany idea how to deal with this?05:45
stdinPensacola: yeah, just install it, if your model isn't listed, you can make it with keytouch-editor05:45
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BCMMs/sesion konsole/konsole session05:45
intelikeyah and Pensacola i just found your question....  not good to ask then change your nickname ....   ;/05:45
stdin!nick05:45
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ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:45
intelikeyBCMM are you cain* from a bit ago ?05:45
fabrizio_qualcuno parla ITALIANO ??05:46
stdin!it | fabrizio_05:46
ubotufabrizio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:46
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intelikeyBCMM at any rate.   try starting kde and see what errors it pukes out.    also you can kill kdm and run startx to see what errors that pukes out.05:47
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intelikeyBCMM if you need help with doing either just ask.05:47
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stdinyou may want to take the chance to backup soon, just in case05:49
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intelikeybackup ?05:49
intelikeystdin that was for whom ?05:50
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stdinfor BCMM's friend05:50
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intelikeyok05:51
gr-cnhi all, i'm kubuntu's newbie with compilation problem on mesa driver for a matrox G450, anybody can help me?05:51
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intelikeygr-cn did you install build-essential ?05:52
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gr-cni work on a wiki page and i installed gcc build-essential05:53
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gr-cnand linux headers to05:53
intelikeyok what error are you getting ?05:53
pixelation_is there anything I need to do besides update and upgrade to keep my installation good?05:54
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HymnToLifepixelation, not install random junk :)05:54
jhutchins_wkpixelation_: Study man pages and learn about the system?05:54
Jucatobah he beat me to it...05:54
pixelation_jhutchins_wk :(05:54
gr-cnthe first driver compiling was ok - the common driver05:54
intelikeypixelation_ and in some cases  NOT upgrade    :)05:54
jhutchins_wkAw, come on, learning is part of the fun!05:54
Jucatopixelation_: you don't have to necessarily start w/ the man pages... but eventually, you'll learn to decipher those arcane texts :)05:55
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gr-cnthe 2 driver compiling - the mga driver - told mi that can't compile against my kernel modules05:55
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jhutchins_wkgr-cn: Possibly you need a different version?05:56
pixelation_I used to use kdirstat to clean the file system and delete junk... but it would erase Kubuntu's settings and the coolest thing about Kubuntu is it learns from you... so I don't want to erase that stuff.05:56
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pixelation_hehe, ok.05:56
intelikeygr-cn or possably you need the kernel source  not just the headers.05:56
gr-cni installed the latest kernek source05:56
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intelikeyand you are building for that version ?05:57
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SmrtJustinfor some reason in my KDE System Settings there is no nvidia driver for me to show, only nv.  I have nvidia installed and it works fine when KDM launches, but once I log in my refresh rate drops, and in system settings I can't raise it and it says I'm using the nv driver.05:57
pixelation_how do I change the default 30 uses defrag?05:57
gr-cnand also  linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)05:57
pixelation_to like every 5 times?05:57
Jucatodefrag?05:58
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intelikeymakefile may default to `uname -r` if not specified    so "<gr-cn> i installed the latest kernek source"  still may not be the version you need if you don't specify the version.05:58
fabrica7ok05:58
stdinyou mean fsck pixelation_ ?05:58
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pixelation_well I assume that's what it's doing because it talks about percentege of contigued files... or whatever.05:58
gr-cnin the path menu?05:58
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pixelation_yes.05:58
eMaXhi05:58
pixelation_fsk stdin05:58
eMaXanyone knows what "Unable to seek on /dev/sdb" means for fdisk -l /dev/sdb on a memory stick?05:59
gr-cnoff the driver?05:59
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stdinpixelation_: I think you use tune2fs for that05:59
pixelation_ok, wow, thanks :)05:59
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pixelation_quick answer :)05:59
intelikeygr-cn i never built that source   only guessing at possable causes to the problem you described.06:00
gr-cni have to point to /usr/source/kernel-etc-?06:00
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intelikeyyes and may need a symlink in /lib/modules to point to the source dir06:00
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stdinpixelation_: look at the man page for more on it, "man tune2fs" or "man:/tune2fs" in konqueror, I think it's the -i option06:01
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pixelation_great :)06:01
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epimethwhere can I find dri modules for kernel 2.6.15-28-386?06:01
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gr-cntnx a lot intelikey i'll try this06:02
cpk1to set a fsck on next reboot i think its tune2fs -c 9906:02
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intelikeypixelation_ but you should probably read   man e2fsck   to learn a little about what it's actually doing...  (defrag)  heh06:02
pixelation_alright,06:02
pixelation_thanks.06:02
intelikeygr-cn don't thank me until you are sure it helped...  ;/06:03
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intelikeycpk1 capital C06:05
intelikeycpk1 your command will delay the check until the count reaches 9906:05
cpk1intelikey: ah, i always get it confused with each other =\06:06
cpk1which is probably why i read the man before I do that =)06:06
intelikey:)06:06
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cpk1i havent had to force a recheck on any of my new drives though06:07
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cpk1i remember my old laptop drive... SMART kept on giving a worse and worse prognosis06:08
chairulhow to get repositories for kubuntu06:08
cpk1!repos | chairul06:08
ubotuchairul: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:08
intelikey!repos | chairul06:08
intelikeylag.06:08
epimethanybody have beryl on dapper?06:09
chairulstraight to the address please??06:09
intelikeyhmmm looks like the mount count on my root drive is 14206:09
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LjLDr_willis: ping06:10
Alpha_Clusterdoes anyone here know anything about knetworkmanager?06:10
stdinchairul: ubotu gave you the address to go to06:10
cpk1Alpha_Cluster: I know it is supposed to be an applet that shows net connections06:11
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intelikeystdin i wonder if i should check my root drive ?   it says it's been mounted 142 times...    auto checking is disabled...06:11
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Alpha_Clusterwell basically i need to figure out how to change an option in the configuration of it...06:11
tarinhello again everyone06:11
Alpha_Clusteri dont get why there is no button for doing it06:11
stdinintelikey: yeah, it may be a good idea to give it a check06:12
cpk1what command tells you the mount count?06:12
intelikeycpk1 tune2fs -l06:12
stdin*may need sudo06:12
intelikeyno just the device node06:12
tarinBluesKaj?06:12
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intelikeytune2fs -l /dev/hda106:13
intelikeyfor example06:13
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stdinintelikey: depends on the permissions of the node, and the groups the user is in06:13
intelikeyfor me it's  tune2fs -l /dev/sda06:13
intelikeystdin partition not readable ?06:13
cpk1yeah /dev/hda is my root drive and looks like i need root to read it06:13
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stdinintelikey: eg, my root shows "brw-rw---- 1 root root 8, 1 2007-02-13 07:31 /dev/sda1", so I'd need sudo06:14
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intelikeycpk1 if you perms are like stdin  yes sudo   but unless you have a partitionless disk like me  use the partition number   /dev/hda#06:14
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intelikeystdin  brw-rw-r-- 1 root root 8, 0 Sep 16 04:31 /dev/sda06:15
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intelikeyCainMadness did you get it working ?06:16
stdinintelikey: other has read permission there06:16
cpk14 mounts to go till i get an autocheck06:16
CainMadnessEh, yeah intelikeyl. But new problem now.06:16
chairulis there any other repo address for kubuntu edgy?06:16
intelikeystdin yes i know.  that's what i expected to be default...06:16
CainMadnessInstalled to the wrong hard drive. Wants me to install to a sata HD, but when I run livecd to install it, it hangs up on the select a disk part.06:17
stdinintelikey: no, the default is actually 660 root:disk06:17
epimethI'm kinda stuck with a beryl installation... I can't find linux-dri-modules-2.6.2806:17
epimetherm06:17
epimethI'm kinda stuck with a beryl installation... I can't find linux-dri-modules-2.6-2806:17
epimethI'm kinda stuck with a beryl installation... I can't find linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-2806:17
epimethgeez06:17
stdin!repeat06:18
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:18
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cpk1CainMadness: when i installed edgy I had to wait until after I installed to my ide drive before formatting my sata drive06:18
Jucato!patience06:18
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:18
jhutchins_wkstdin: He was repeating 'cause he was making typos.06:18
epimethstdin:  I didn't mean to spam the question.. I was just making typos06:18
cpk1i couldnt figure out why it didnt like my sata drive06:18
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epimethjucato: I know :-)06:18
stdinjhutchins_wk: yeah, but can't he read it before he preses enter?06:18
CainMadnessI don't really have the option to set up IDE drive before my sata.06:18
epimethI'm just soooo close to getting beryl working I can taste it...06:19
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intelikeyCainMadness the liveCD installer...   yuch!    you could maybe install to ide and migrate, but that begs module trubble in the initramfs.img ....    the alternate install cd would be a better choice.06:19
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jhutchins_wkepimeth: isn't 2.6.15 a bit old?  I thought we were on .17.06:19
Jucatoepimeth: no. I was just looking for what !patience spits out06:19
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epimethstdin:  I'm right here... don't talk like I'm not :-(06:19
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jhutchins_wkJucato: You can PM the bot and it'll give you a private answer.06:19
CainMadnessAlternate install CD?06:19
intelikeyCainMadness yes06:20
cpk1CainMadness: text install basically06:20
stdinepimeth: sorry, but I was replying to someone else06:20
Jucatojhutchins_wk: I know... but since it was in the factoid and seems to be related, might as well show it06:20
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intelikey!alternate06:20
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.06:20
CainMadnessWhen I try the text only install, it hangs up as well.06:20
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epimethjhutchins_wk: I don't know... its what I have.  I'm using dapper06:20
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jhutchins_wkHave you seen the faq that the bot has on beryl?06:20
intelikeywhoever wrote that factoid needs to see a shrink.  ***For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.***06:21
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epimethjhutchins_wk: yes... I'm following it exactly, but I can't find the dri modules06:21
CainMadnessMmk. I'll go try. Be back later it it doesn't work.06:22
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intelikeyfair enough06:22
K-1000-Ohi06:22
jhutchins_wkepimeth: Google isn't finding that phrase either, so I don't know what to tell ya.06:23
intelikeywell i can't keep out of the office long enough to help here.    back when things calm down.06:23
jhutchins_wkepimeth: Finding more than one post about the same problem...06:24
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K-1000-Ohi some one speak spamish??06:24
stdinspamish? is that the language of spam?06:25
Jucato!es | K-1000-O06:25
ubotuK-1000-O: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:25
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Jucatostdin: hm.. you just made me hungry06:25
jhutchins_wkepimeth: What does uname -r tell you?06:25
stdinheh, I'm already hungry06:26
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epimethexactly what I'm searching for... 2.6.15-28-38606:26
stdinand speaking of food... I'm going to get some now :)06:26
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epimethgandalfn.club.fr only has up to -2706:26
jhutchins_wkepimeth: Look for 2.6.15-2706:27
cpk1downgrade then06:27
epimethjust the dri drivers or the whole kernel?06:27
cpk1personally i think beryl is useless and anyone who wastes their time trying to get it to work deserves every negative possible06:27
cpk1but thats just me06:27
epimethbrb06:28
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Biovoreberyl is a play toy at best.. still extremly buggy...06:28
mefisto__I want to download a package without installing it. where will apt-get save the package?06:28
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Biovoremefisto__: /var/cache/apt I think..06:29
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cpk1mefisto__: current directory06:30
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epimethjhutchins_wk: should I downgrade the kernel or just the dri drivers?06:30
mefisto__cpk1: that's simple. are you sure?06:30
cpk1using aptitude yes06:31
cpk1mefisto__: remember if you also want to get all the dependencies then you should do aptitude install -d packagename and then it will throw all of the packages into /var/cache/apt/archives06:32
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mefisto__cpk1: thanks, that was my next question06:33
kalindahey all; anybody using Beryl?06:33
BiovoreI have it installed and it works.. but not currently using it..06:33
mefisto__wait, aptitude? or apt-get?06:33
kalindaSo you have no trouble playing videos with it turned on? nVidia or ATI?06:34
Biovorenope.. works fine in mplayer06:34
Biovoreand xine06:34
BiovoreI am usinga nvidia card06:34
kalindao-o... I dont get it06:34
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cpk1i'm talking about aptitude, not sure if apt-get has exactly the same command or the exact same path06:35
kalindaI can't play video with it being weird... it's hard to describe.. but little lines appear when there's a lot of movement.. I think it's called frame stuttering or something.. but only when beryl is turned on06:35
Biovorekalinda: you using xv for your  video out?06:35
eeoshi there. how do you find what uninstalled package containes a certain file?06:35
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chairulada yg bisa bhs indonesia06:36
Jucatochairul: English only please06:36
kalindaBiovore: Yes, I set it up like taht in Kaffeine and the Firefox mplayer plugin.. it doesn't help.. is there some place else I have to turn it on?06:36
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kalinda*checks again*06:37
jhutchins_wkWell, that was interesting, hard crash.06:37
Biovorekalinda: you getting video at all?  or is it just choppy...06:37
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chairuljucato : tell me how to sharing file with nfs06:37
Jucato!id | chairul06:37
kalindaIm getting video.. it's just weird and choppy.. the odd thing is that it does it on my brother's computer in KDE, but not in Gnome.. and his machine is much better then mine06:37
ubotuchairul: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia06:37
Biovore!nfs06:38
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:38
Jucatochairul: sorry, not familiar with NFS06:38
jhutchins_wkepimeth: You getting anywhere?06:38
kalindaBiovore: Yeah, xv is on06:38
chairulubuntu-id jarang yg posting06:38
Biovorekalinda: what graphics card you got?06:38
jhutchins_wkchairul: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/06:39
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kalindaBiovore: nVidia 5200 FX.. I'm using the latest driver06:39
eeosguys, how do you find what uninstalled package containes a certain file? cannot get it from man dpkg.06:39
kalindaBiovore: The weird thing is that video used to be fine back in Beryl 0.1.106:40
epimethjhutchins_wk: should I downgrade the kernel or just the dri drivers?06:40
Biovoreeeos: that information is dependent on the package..  you can try searching the online repo.. packages.ubuntu.com06:40
jhutchins_wkepimeth: I'm pretty sure they have to match.06:40
epimethso how do I downgrade the kernel?06:40
Biovorekalinda: whats the symptoms..  no video at all...06:40
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kalindaepimeth: Why would you want to?06:41
cpk1epimeth: just load the other kernel during the grub menu if its still installed06:41
chairulthanks anyway06:41
Biovorekalinda: Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"  in your xorg.conf?06:41
eeosBiovore yes, but with rpm you can interrogate the repository for what package contains, let's say, the file 'v4l.h'. Ho do you carry out the same operation with dpkg / apt-get?06:41
kalindaBiovore: No, I have video, when it plays and there's lots of movement or panning, strange lines appear.. I couldn't take a screenshot of it because it goes away when paused.. it's weird.06:42
Biovorekalinda: try using the opengl render?06:42
Biovorefor mplayer06:42
kalindaBiovore: Yeah, I got that.. I have everything added to my xorg as per the nVidia troubleshooting page on the beryl wiki06:42
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kalindaBiovore: I did.. I've tried changing all those around.... I'm starting to wonder if it's at all related to my craptastic computer06:43
Biovoreeeos: what file you looking for?06:43
Biovorekalinda: yeah.. not sure then..  beryl is kinda funky still..  and OpenGL on linux veries alot..06:44
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eeosBiovore I am looking to interrogate the repository so that I can find what package containas a certain file.06:45
kalindaBiovore: Indeed, hopefully it'll just go away in Feisty06:45
CainMadnessSATA still giving me trouble using the kubunutu installation CD. Still freezes up at the 'select a disk' partition step.06:46
Biovoreeeos: apt isn't setup to do that I don't think..06:47
Biovoreif your looking for stuff like header files.. try looking at the -dev packages06:48
eeosBiovore dpkg?06:48
Biovoreyou can list the contents of a particular package..06:48
cpk1CainMadness: I have heard rumors that the ubuntu installer is better...06:48
CainMadnessI think I have an ubuntu CD somewhere..06:48
jhutchins_wkepinephrine: Yeah, just change the default in the grub menu list and reboot.06:48
Biovorecpk1: there the same dam thing..06:48
RobMongooseeeos: you could try 'apt-cache search fileuwant' - that might do it. sorry if this was already suggested...06:48
jhutchins_wkepinephrine: OOps, n'mind.06:48
cpk1Biovore: qtparted as opposed to gparted =P06:49
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Biovorecpk1: both python front ends to fdisk06:49
CainMadnessBiovore: What do you suggest then?06:49
jhutchins_wkeeos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto06:49
jhutchins_wkeeos: Pretty sure apt or dpkg has that option, I just saw it yesterday.06:50
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BiovoreCainMadness: after booting pop open a shell and used fdisk and see if that works..06:50
eeosRobMongoose thanks! read apt-get man page, did not understand how to d it.06:50
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jhutchins_wkeeos: That howto's a little easier.  I'm still learning apt.06:50
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CainMadnessWhen it is running off the disk, open console and type fdisk in?06:51
CainMadnessconsole/shell/terminal06:51
eeosjhutchins_wk RobMongoose thank to both of you!06:51
BiovoreCainMadness: sudo fdisk /dev/sda or /dev/sdb etc06:51
RobMongooseNo problem :)06:51
cpk1CainMadness: try fdisk -l /dev/sda (assuming its not partitioned or one partition)06:51
Biovore^ or that :-)_06:51
jhutchins_wkcpk1: fdisk always wants the root dev, not the partition anyway.06:52
cpk1actually i dont think you even need to give the partition06:52
CainMadnessLet me restart it into loading up with GUI.06:52
CainMadnessThen I'll try it out.06:52
cpk1jhutchins_wk: realized after I said it =P06:52
jhutchins_wkcpk1: Right, it will list the possible ones.06:52
cpk1CainMadness: what are you on right now?06:52
CainMadnessIt was in the text install.06:52
CainMadnessWas hanging up 'again' at the partition area.06:53
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CainMadnessSo restarting so I can get it to do console.06:53
jhutchins_wkHeh.  Always been a weak point in linux installers.06:53
CainMadnessOkay, so which of those do I type into the terminal?06:55
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paphey, has anyone here used THC-Hydra?06:56
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cpk1CainMadness: fdisk -l /dev/sda06:57
cpk1CainMadness: you probably need sudo06:57
vladimirhello06:57
CainMadnessIs that an ell or an eye?06:59
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CainMadnessNm. I type it in, is it supposed to display something?07:02
LjLCainMadness: it's an L07:02
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LjLfor list07:02
CainMadnessIts' not listing anything.07:02
LjLCainMadness: not even "cannot open"?07:03
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LjLi guess /dev/sda isn't partitioned then07:03
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CainMadnessHmm.07:04
CainMadnessSo what now?07:04
jhutchins_wkMaybe it's not /dev/sda07:04
jhutchins_wkdmesg might be of help.07:04
cpk1sudo lshw will tell you the /dev/ of your drives07:05
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chovyhow do i install from a live cd?07:05
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chovyeverytime i boot up, it asks me to boot from LiveCD under Parellels07:06
Dr_willischovy,  should bne an icon on the desktop07:06
Dr_willisno idea about parelles.07:06
CainMadnesscpk1: That gave me a lot of information the computer.07:07
cpk1CainMadness: your sata devices will probably be listed under "storage"07:07
CainMadnessOkay, let me check.07:07
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CainMadnessDisplays a 'Mass Storage Controller' by ATI Technologies under the Storage part.07:09
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cpk1keep going...07:09
PF-Away!gfxboot07:09
ubotugfxboot: bootlogo creator for gfxboot compliant boot loaders. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.23-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB07:09
PF-Away!grub07:09
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:10
cpk1there should be a "disk" section after that07:10
CainMadnessK, let me check.07:10
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CainMadnessNo, doesn't show it anywhere.07:11
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cpk1you did sudo lshw?07:11
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CainMadnessYes.07:11
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cpk1hrmm, well maybe its somewhere else, scan the output =)07:12
CainMadnessOkay.07:12
fabrizioIRC ITALIAN PLEASE07:12
Tm_T!it07:13
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:13
Tm_Tfabrizio: And no caps, thank you.07:13
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CainMadnesscpk1:  Nope. Nothing about the SATA drive is displayed.07:14
cpk1well that might be a problem =P07:14
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CainMadnessAny suggestions?07:15
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CainMadnesscpk1:  Any suggestions?07:23
cpk1hrmm I don't really know where to go if you cant see the drives right off the bat, maybe try a knoppix cd?07:25
CainMadnessHaven't got one, have to get I guess..07:25
cpk1not really sure why you cant see the drives when the controller seems to be fine07:25
CainMadnessThanks though.07:25
cpk1I dont have enough experience in that kind of thing =\07:25
CainMadnessOkay.07:26
cpk1like I said same thing happened to me but I was installing root to IDE anyways so...07:26
cpk1alright then07:26
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dromerhmm, I did an upgrade with synaptic today (dapper) and it's stuck at: Setting up kdelibs (3.5.2-0ubuntu18.2) ...07:28
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dromerah wait, n/m07:29
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dromerI'm paranoi07:29
dromerSuccesfully ayylied all changes. You can close the window now ;)07:29
dromer!3ddesktop07:30
ubotu3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB07:30
Dr_willis3ddesktop is a waste. :)07:30
dromerohw, hehe07:30
_6StringKng_ /msg nickserv link _6StringKng_ xJPM100x07:30
Dr_willisall these beginners see it at the top of the package listings and want to try it..07:30
_6StringKng_lmao07:31
Dr_willisdont bother. heh heh07:31
Jucatouh oh....07:31
dromerhaha07:31
Branded_Atomeveryone wants something new!07:31
JucatoDr_willis: imho it's better than having Beryl :)07:31
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Dr_willisits like that ribbon candy tht grandma has in that glass bowl - that has been there for YEARS.. yes its sugary eye candy.. but its old eye candy.07:31
Dr_willisthe features i saw on tht Mettis Live cd. (from mandriva) had some neat new eye candy. and not using Beryl07:32
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Jucato*cough* Metisse *cough*07:32
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dromerok, beryl isn't available for dapper anyway is it?07:32
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boblenyHey, does anyone know where the php.ini is installed to?07:34
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adydastry /etc/apache i belive07:35
adydasthats right07:35
boblenynvm, I think i found it07:35
boblenyIt was here /etc/php5/apache2/07:35
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adydaswell there ya go07:36
boblenyThanks!07:36
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tdnI have problems getting Konqueror to keep the view I configured it to use. I have done: View > View Mode > Detailed List and then I have saved this view profile for file browsing, but when I type something like "smb://10.0.0.50/" in the location bar, I get the large ikon view. This is really annoying. Why won't Konqueror remember my decision?07:37
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jhutchins_wktdn: Dunno, you could ask in #kde, see if they can tell you.  My guess is that smb mode isn't the same as file mode.07:39
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boblenyI have a question, I installed LAMP and it works great! However, the server can't seem to create or write to files in the server. Do you know why?07:44
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alainsalut alls07:46
boblenyFor instance, when a php script needs to create or modify a php file it cant.07:46
tdnjhutchins_wk, got no response in #kde. Where do I save the profile  for smb mode?07:46
boblenyDoes anyone no why?07:46
[R] eaperhow can i upgrade from dapper to edgy??07:46
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HymnToLifeubotu, tell [R] eaper about edgy | [R] eaper, see the private message from ubotu.07:47
jhutchins_wktdn: Sorry, no idea.07:47
Jucato!upgrade | [R] eaper07:47
ubotu[R] eaper: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)07:47
tdnbobleny, probably permissions :)07:47
boblenyI think it has to do with linux's permissions07:47
boblenylol, thanks tdn..07:47
HymnToLifebobleny, make sure your webserver has writing permission to that file07:47
jhutchins_wk!lamp > bobleny07:47
[R] eaperthx07:48
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boblenyHow can I set permissions for lamp though?07:48
HymnToLifebobleny, in your httpd.conf, you can specify the user the webserver runs as07:49
HymnToLifeset the permissions for this user like you would do for any other07:50
boblenyOk thanks07:50
HymnToLifethe default is www-data, it's usually best to keep it07:50
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boblenyThanks, but how do I set permissions in there? I'm stupid...07:51
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jhutchins_wk!permissions | bobleny07:53
ubotubobleny: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux07:53
krazy77ciao a tuttiiiiiiiiiiiii07:53
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boblenyOk, thanks, I'll check it out.07:54
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blue|palmHi, is it possible at all to reduce the size of icons on your kde desktop?08:03
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jhutchins_wkblue|palm: Well, that'll happen if you increase the resolution...08:07
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soulriderhi08:08
blue|palmjhutchins_wk: I have, but i found a solution (appearance->icons->advanced)08:08
b0rthello08:08
blue|palmjhutchins_wk: so i got it, its ok08:08
b0rtsorry about my n00bness, but how do I write in NTFS partitions?08:09
HymnToLifeubotu, tell b0rt about ntfs | b0rt, see the private message from ubotu.08:09
jhutchins_wkblue|palm: Excellent!08:09
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ciro3salve08:10
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jhutchins_wkHello ciro308:11
ciro3hello08:11
b0rt!ntfs-3g08:11
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)08:11
ciro3good ntfs-3g + kubuntu work perfectly08:11
ciro3:)08:11
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jhutchins_wkActually, I've never had any trouble with R/W NTFS access myself.08:12
jhutchins_wkEven pre-captive.08:12
b0rtpre-captive?08:12
b0rtO.o08:12
ciro3i have a question ntfs-3g + fuse not need recomplire kernel08:12
jhutchins_wkcaptive ntfs searches the ntfs partition using the read-only drivers, then uses the MS drivers for write access.08:13
jhutchins_wkciro3: Shouldn't need to recompile the kernel, but you might have to compile the module.08:14
jhutchins_wk!it | ciro308:14
ubotuciro3: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:14
ciro3ok08:14
ciro3thnaks08:14
jhutchins_wkNo offense, we just don't speak Italian.08:14
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b0rtHymnToLife: humm just read about problems with x64, is ntfs-3g compatible with 64 arch?08:23
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pm2What DVD-playing program will support the DVD menus?08:24
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b0rtdo i have to compile ntfs-3g?08:25
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NightBirdhow do I check the system log?08:26
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HymnToLifepm2, xine does08:26
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HymnToLifeb0rt, don't know, I use 64 bits OSes only on servers08:26
NightBirdn/m, found it08:26
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b0rtits ok, ill keep looking on web08:27
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LeFrenchyhey there08:28
pulaskihello08:28
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LeFrenchycould you help me a little?08:29
LeFrenchyi'd like to uninstall kubuntu off ubuntu08:29
NightBirdLeFrenchy, you want to remove kde from kubuntu and switch to gnome or some other windows system?08:30
zhaartethsudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop if you want to get kde08:30
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JucatoLeFrenchy: or you want to remove Kubuntu, which you installed on top of Ubuntu?08:30
LeFrenchyno in fact i first installed ubuntu, then i wanted to try kubuntu so i just installed kubuntu-desktop pakages and kde08:31
LeFrenchybut i'd like to go back noe08:31
JucatoLeFrenchy: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome08:31
BluesKajLeFrenchy, you'll regert it08:31
LeFrenchythanks i check that right away08:31
BluesKajerr regret it08:31
LeFrenchyi'm a noob in linux, gnow seems much more eaier for a start08:31
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LeFrenchy*gnome08:32
LeFrenchy*easier08:32
BluesKajKDE is more like a windows desktop than gnome08:32
LeFrenchyaaaaaaaaah perfect, i think thats it08:32
LeFrenchythanks Jucato08:32
LeFrenchymaybe i'll go back to kde later, i'll see08:33
LeFrenchyi'll start easy first08:33
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JucatoKDE is easy too...08:33
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b0rtisnt it possible to select X-server on login?08:33
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zhaartethLeFrenchy: if you installed the kdm environment as default, then the kde login menu still has an option to login to gnome08:37
pulaskiI have a client box running kubuntu 6.10 client connected by nfs to a server running kubunt 6.10 server with LAMP.  I grabbed java 1.4.2-02 on the client because I'm taking a java class.   Unfortunately my school uses java 1.5.0.03.  Last time I looked that was the latest version of a java package available on adept.  Is there java 1.5.0.03 package available?08:37
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beels15hallo08:38
beels15die seite auch auf deutsch ?08:39
beels15is this chat in germany ?08:39
Tm_T!de08:40
Tm_THmm08:40
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:40
Tm_T!botsnack08:40
ubotuYum!08:40
beels15thank you08:40
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pulaskiI just looked at adept and my java common is the latest.08:41
pulaskisorry.  I need to look elsewhere.08:41
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tarini got a question for you fellas08:42
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tarini have to configure my video settings in kubunttu so i hit ctrl-alt-f1 and then i enter "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" just as i was told to do. (im running this in livedisk by the way). i get through a lot of questions about my setup and then i get to a question about the color depth. there several options and evey one i pick opens the command line and it says a warning about...08:45
tarin...overwriting a custom file. i dont know what to do next. I just end up starting all over with the config menu.08:45
tarinim so damn lost and all i want to do is set this os up.08:47
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b0rtok, just compiled pmount for R/W access on x64, now do i need to mount drives in a special way?08:48
b0rtR/W access for NTFS on x64 arch *08:48
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BluesKajb0rt, ntfs-3g works for me , but I'm not using 64bit vers , altho the cpu is an AMD 6408:51
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b0rtbut this guy (givr) says to use pmount on 64 0S08:52
b0rt=S08:52
tarinhey  BluesKaj! What you told me did help but I still cant get to any installation dialouge08:53
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cntbwhere does my host someone logged on at the moment on ssh ?08:57
cntbsorry, where does my host see someone logged on at the moment on ssh ?08:58
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djwilcoxwhats the best way to set up lamp08:59
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NightBirdI'm getting an error when loading ndiswrapper, and it's telling me to check system log for messages... what log should I be checking?09:01
NightBirdbecause I'm seeing nothing in syslog, syslog.0, or kern.log09:02
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dec_is it possible to connect a cell phone to the usb port on a computer and have it recognized as a device in ubuntu?09:02
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NightBirddec_, yes.... it is possible.... will it work? who knows..09:03
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dec_nightbird do you know of any software that would fit the bill09:04
NightBirdI sure don't09:04
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dec_I sure thank you09:04
marwanHello all09:04
NightBirdhi marwan09:04
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marwanI installed kubuntu 6.10 on IBM netvista and after rebooting it did not start xserver and directed me to the command line.  Does any one know how to fix that?09:06
jhutchinsdec_: I think the kde contact manager includes links for a lot of phones.09:06
jhutchinsNightBird: check /var/log/messages, and also dmesg09:06
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NightBirdjhutchins, I found the message to check the log in dmesg, and all messages says is the loaded message before it fails..09:08
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jhutchinsYeah, that happens sometimes, doesn't even get as far as logging.09:09
jhutchins!ndiswrapper09:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:10
jhutchinsThat'll be more help than I will.09:10
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NightBirdupgrade from 1.22 to 1.37... :P09:10
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slyfoxWhat is the command for Konquerer to enter ftp sites ?09:10
jhutchinsslyfox: Just use an ftp url.09:11
HymnToLifeslyfox, ftp://login@host09:12
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slyfoxjhutchins: there was a special beginning comamnd, the site can be enterd via ftp protocol, but it is not an ftp site, there is no ftp address attahed to it09:12
jhutchinsmarwan: You're probably having an issue with the video driver.  startx might give you a useful error.09:12
jhutchinsslyfox: If you were to do ftp name.of.site from a console, would it work?09:12
slyfoxjhutchins: actually you are right. It works09:13
jhutchinsCool.09:13
slyfoxHymnToLife: yeah it works, thanks09:13
jhutchinsI think the full format is ftp://user:password@host09:13
xenolplz i want to install kubuntu at friend PC09:13
xenoland  he has got 20 GB free on 150  GB win partition09:14
xenolif kubuntu isntaller resize that disk is there any chance to lose to data ?09:14
Frost^Hello.09:15
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PFAwhat's the name of the KDE theme thing? (if i want to run it from command line)09:16
Frost^I'm having a problem with Amarok - it fails to index my collection (It was able to do so on my previous distro). It says something about taglib might being broken. Does anyone know anything about it?09:16
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jhutchinsFrost^: You might check #amarok09:23
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SSJ_GZPFA:What do you mean by "KDE theme thing" ?:)09:23
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marwanjhutchins: Thanks I will try to startx09:24
Frost^jhutchins: Ok, thanks.09:24
sittisal_impressive...09:24
sittisal_come back to kde after years of gnome09:24
sittisal_back home...09:25
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NightBirdheh09:25
sittisal_still need a bit of polish...09:25
sittisal_but it's faast09:25
jhutchinsYeah, major clean-up a couple of releases ago.09:26
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sittisal_yes... but i think that also kubuntu did a great job on cleaning something09:26
fignewwho woulda though that ktorrent gets unstable when downloading 200 torrents at once...09:26
sittisal_fignew: 200 torrents???09:27
fignewyep :)09:27
jhutchinstorrenting takes a lot of cpu among other things.09:27
sittisal_doesn't saturate the internet connection?09:27
fignewI'm on a 100mbit line09:27
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sittisal_fuxxxx09:27
sittisal_:-)09:28
fignewjhutchins: true: load avg. of 1009:28
sittisal_a lot of tcp ports open, a lot of cpu usage09:28
fignewmaybe turning off DHT will help09:28
blue|palmI have a problem with fstab and usb hdds... everytime i insert a new usb hdd, it gets added to fstab. Then if the entry is still in /etc/fstab when i restart, and the usb hdd is still in, kubuntu refuses to boot! If i remove the usb hdd (with the entry in fstab still) then kubuntu boots. If i have no entry for that usb hdd in fstab (in other words i remove it from fstab after its automatically added) then kubuntu boots fine with the hdd09:28
blue|palmin. Is there anyway i can fix this since i boot with 2 external data storage harddrives all the time?09:28
jhutchinsfignew: it'll spike occasionally.  You'll notice it if you're doing something else like transcoding at the same time.09:28
jhutchinsAlso that's a lot of I/O, and the instability might come from caching.09:29
fignewit was actually complaining about too many files open at the same time09:29
fignewnever knew there was a limit09:29
blue|palmSo that i dont have to remove them each time i want to boot?09:29
jhutchinsblue|palm: Always disconnect the usb drive before you reboot.09:30
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blue|palmjhutchins: I know that fixes the problem, but Its a bit irritating :(09:30
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jhutchinsblue|palm: There are a lot of things that haven't been worked out on that system yet.09:30
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blue|palmjhutchins: oh... is it just ubuntu/kubuntu or linux in general09:30
jhutchinsblue|palm: for instance, you _should_ be able to specify what happens to a device when it connects by using it's USB ID codes, but it's very difficult to do so.09:30
jhutchinsblue|palm: Linux in general, the whole udev thing.09:31
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blue|palmjhutchins: ive been troubleshooting too much lately :( i think ill let this one slide and live with it09:31
sittisal_jhutchins: but the manual fstab configuration should solve the problem...?09:31
jhutchinsblue|palm: Different distros implement it a little bit differently, so some things work here, some thnigs work elsewhere.09:31
blue|palmjhutchins: ive tried09:31
blue|palmjhutchins: manually configuring fstab makes no difference09:31
jhutchinssittisal_: I don't think so.09:31
blue|palmjhutchins: the autoconfig does it correctly anyway09:31
jhutchinsMy problem is that it wants to do the same thing with my camera, my ipod, and my usb drive.09:32
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blue|palmjhutchins: my one recognizes and differentiates between my ipod and my usb hdd :)09:33
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tdnIn Krita, how do I make a marquee/selection that is exactly 1400x1050 (or some other specified values), and then rotate it? I need this so I can make the horizon horizontal on some photographs where it is skewed a few degrees.09:42
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jhutchinstdn: Sizing is usually done with either "Crop" or "Scale", rotation is usually seperate.09:49
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jhutchinstdn: You probably want to rotate first, then crop or scale.09:49
scooterhello has anyone ever dealt with vmplayer virtual machine in ubuntu edgy eft09:50
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scooteri am looking to learn anything everything i can about the virtual machine and how it operates can anyone please help me09:52
tdnjhutchins, ok.09:52
BluesKaj!VMware09:53
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware09:53
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scooterthank you so very much09:53
teulzbonsoir j'ai un problem avec adept09:54
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BluesKaj! fr | teulz09:54
ubotuteulz: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:54
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veskuhi10:09
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veskuhappy Valentines Day!10:11
fabriziohi, i need the server ubuntu-it10:11
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fabriziovorrei entrare nel canale italiano di ubuntu10:13
osiris1I have a quick question. Can anyone help me with the following :  I have a asus nvidia 6600 with 2 outputs XP sees this and can post video signal to each monitor ... But kubuntu crashes when i try to boot any ideas10:13
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veskuim strugling with same kind of problem than you osiris110:14
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osiris1yea xp has no problem10:15
osiris1but when i load in to kubuntu. I get the weirdest video grabage then I have to reset10:15
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osiris1I unplug the other monitor on the analog output and it works fine10:15
osiris1Strange10:15
osiris1im also having some issues with the wireless card issue but I am updating right now10:16
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veskui have hp pavilion and i would like to view my videos from TV but xubuntu shows me only black screen :|10:16
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veskusame here with wireless :D10:16
osiris1i looked on the formus10:17
osiris1they say to do a big update.. which im doing now10:17
osiris1should fix it10:17
veskucan you give some link to forum?10:17
osiris1there is another used wireless manager that I am going to try if this sys update doesnt work10:17
osiris1yea for sure let me search again10:17
veskuthanks10:17
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osiris1http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=13668.010:18
osiris1its on the main edgy foum..10:18
osiris1I am going to reboot soon so Ill be back and tell u if the update worked :))10:18
veskuokey10:18
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jerradhello10:20
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veskuhi10:21
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kristjan_is there an utility that let's me set cpu frequency?10:21
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Frost^-Is there a good guide somewhere for creating ubuntu packages?10:22
kristjan_it can scale between 800MHz and 1.73GHz; I would like to lock it on 1GHz to test something10:22
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faLUCE Hi. i have compiled a  simple kernel module and generated the .o file. now, how can I insert it? kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic10:24
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K`zanfaLUCE: modprobe modulename10:26
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faLUCEK`zan:10:27
faLUCEpaolo@paolo-laptop:~/provekernel$ sudo modprobe simple1.o10:27
faLUCEFATAL: Module simple1.o not found.10:27
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K`zanfaLUCE: Hummm, that is about the extent of my knowledge on the subject.  Perhaps modprobe pathto/modulename10:29
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tarelerulzI download firefox for i368 and It runs for where I extracted ,but how to you install it like normal10:33
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LjLtarelerulz: uh, why would you "download" firefox and run it from the home dir? firefox is in the repositories...10:34
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tarelerulzWell, I try to get it useing add and remore program and it did not find anything10:34
gnomefreak!info firefox10:35
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 8992 kB, installed size 28580 kB10:35
veskuapt-get...10:35
gnomefreaktarelerulz: its in main repo make sure your using the net repos instead of the cd rom repo10:35
tarelerulzI feel dumb I just found it10:36
tarelerulzHow would I go about getting mplayer and firefox plugin10:36
veskuCan anybody help with wlan... how do i connect to wlan?10:37
LjLtarelerulz: "apt-cache search firefox mplayer" or somesuch.10:37
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tarelerulzI feel you  vesku I try the wlan at my library and I could not get connected10:37
LjL!info mozilla-mplayer10:38
LjL!packages10:38
ubotumozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB10:38
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!10:38
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tarelerulzok I found mplayer and its plugin with apt how do I install in the gui one10:41
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LjLtarelerulz, i haven't the slightest idea, i use command line.10:41
LjLif it were me, i'd just type "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer".10:41
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tarelerulzThat ljl10:42
tarelerulzThanks man10:42
HymnToLifetarelerulz, a GUI For what ?10:42
HymnToLifeoh, forget it10:42
tarelerulzthe gui for the the packet and program installer10:42
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fairmanHi, why i can not upgrade amarok from 1.4.3 to version 1.4.5 and the command apt-get upgrade writes "Following pack will be handed in actually version.... Amarok" why??10:49
BluesKajtarelerulz,  http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/10:49
BluesKajthe above is the FF plugin10:50
pc_610:50
Tm_Tfairman: How about pasting full apt-get output to pastebin?10:50
Tm_T!pate10:50
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Tm_TAgh!10:50
LjL!pat10:50
Tm_T!paste10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
BluesKaj!pastebin10:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:50
gnunezhi10:50
Tm_TLjL: I could hate you, easily, but I wont.10:50
LjL*g*10:51
tarelerulzapt-get says it can't get mplayer and it dep10:51
Tm_TNo matter how hard you keep trying. ;)10:51
marwanHappy Valantine day everyone10:51
BluesKajtarelerulz,  http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/10:51
tarelerulzthanks I well get the souce it would seem10:51
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fairmanTm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5820/ - my apt-get output10:53
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marwanI can not increase the display resolution, I have intel 82845G/GL graphic card. Any suggestion?10:54
tarelerulzHow do you get past apt-get saying it will not get the dep for mplayer and so on10:54
mike_@marvan: Try to add the resolution you want to /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:55
Tm_Tfairman: Try apt-get install for amarok etc10:55
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Tm_TTime to get some sleep so remember to behave and have fun! ->10:56
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fairmanTm_T: yes, it seems good, thank you10:56
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marwanmike: the resolution is already in the xorg.config file, but I can not imcrease the res than 640x84010:57
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fairmanQuestion for everybody, why the command apt-get upgrade is not able to upgrade amarok and kopete, but he is able to upgrade the other KDE software....? I have to do throught install command10:58
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main2i lost the journal of my ext3 drive some how? :S11:02
main2it shows up as ext2 now in gparted :S11:02
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main2can i get it back easily?11:02
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marwanBye everyone11:04
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bxnpmy god i am so proud of my newly build desktop system11:12
bxnpfound some cool icons aswell11:13
TheDebuggerI always have problems with adept...11:14
TheDebuggerSometimes, it just doesn't run11:14
bxnpjust use apt-get11:15
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TheDebuggerbxnp: That's what i'm doing :/11:17
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bxnpand what is the message you get11:17
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esaymdo  you have to be root in order to stop and start programs in init.d?11:25
duckdownHey all.  I am trying to tail a file but filter out only the things I want to see.. This is the syntax I am trying:  "tail -f /var/log/messages| awk '{print $3,$6,$10,$19,$11,$20}' /var/log/messages |grep DROP"  however, any time a new message appears it just goes back to the prompt.  Can someone correct this for me11:25
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bxnpduckdown: there is a awk channel on the server #awk11:27
sparri officially hate bash wildcard expansion now.  "rm *(2)*" seems straightforward enough...11:27
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duckdownthanks11:29
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SolidSource!samba11:32
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:32
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bxnphttp://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/images.html my new kubuntu installation11:35
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SolidSourceanyone testing feisty?11:36
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xenoli need help plz11:43
xenolcan someone tell me which package i need for dapper? it is for my modem vigor31811:43
xenolhttp://search.belnet.be/packages/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/f/flex/11:43
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bxnpyour modem11:46
SolidSourceprobably one of these....if those are for your modem: flex_2.5.31-38ubuntu1_amd64.deb or flex_2.5.31-38ubuntu1_i386.deb11:47
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riz_ciao cragazzi11:49
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riz_qualcuno sa come mai la stampante su kubuntu da' problemi?11:50
Xeroche stampante?11:50
riz_lexmark11:50
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michelehi11:50
Xerouhm, buh, modello? e che tipo di problemi?11:50
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Roeyhi! :)11:50
Xerohi11:50
ninHerjust english riz11:51
Xeroook11:51
Xerohe would to know something about problems with his printer11:51
Xeroa lexmark printer11:51
riz_me la riconosce ma al momento di stampare inizia la procedura ma poi niente scompare tutto11:52
Xeroin inglese? :P11:52
ninHeryes please11:52
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Xerohe says that the printer is recognized by the system, but when he prints something nothing appens11:52
riz_ok........11:53
Xeroit seems to be that he does not clicked anything11:53
RoeyI'm on Feisty Fawn;  I am trying to get it to be able to connect with this D-Link DWL-AG650 pcmcia card and although I can /see/ wifi networks out there with Kismet, I can't seem to successfully connect to them.  Can anyone help?11:53
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rayluRoey, I assume you've used the wlan assistant?11:54
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riz_grazie xero.....prima o poi capiro'11:54
Xerolol11:54
Xeroma cavolo, sei italiano? :P11:54
Roeyraylu:  yes I have.11:54
raylu!es | riz_11:54
uboturiz_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:54
rayluand what does it do?11:54
Roeykwifimanager, kde network manager, wlassisatnt11:54
Xeroah si scusa,11:55
Xero:P11:55
riz_si perche'?11:55
Xerono niente, avevo sbagliato utente11:55
riz_ok...scusa11:55
Roeyah, molto bene!11:55
Xerohey roes, let's speek english, otherwise "so cazzi amari" aghag11:55
Roeyraylu, it just times out.11:56
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bxnpRoey: kdenetworkmanager rocks11:56
RoeyXero:  heh ok11:56
rayluWere you able to connect on Windows?11:56
riz_scusate ho fatto confusione11:56
bxnpjust do apt-get install knetworkmanager11:56
bxnpand up you go11:56
Roeybxnp BUT I can't set the timeout to >60s in knetworkmanager11:56
Roeybxnp:  no... it doesn't connect either.11:56
bxnpthe timeout for 60 seconds11:56
RoeyI don't get it.  I *have* the madwifi drivers loaded11:56
bxnpis your card supported anyway11:56
RoeyI can /see/ networks11:56
Roeyer11:56
bxnpoh oke11:56
bxnpwait11:56
Roeythe network I am trying to connect to11:56
Roeyhmm?11:57
Roeyif it is supported?  I've seen posts hinting both ways.11:57
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JoshH2kHowdy ho, neighborinos.  I'm trying to install the Valve Steam server software, but, for some reason, bash keeps telling me that permission is denied, even though my user has rwx on the mount, directory, and binary - I'm even denied permission when I sudo the binary12:00
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Xerobye guy, see you soon..i hope :P12:02
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rayluJoshH2k, are you using the HLDS update tool?12:03
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x04ty29erIt hates you12:03
raylucoming from the person who got it fully working...12:03
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tarelerulzI am going to compile mplayer and am wonding if I do this will the mplayer plugin see that ?12:04
Branded_Atomwhy do you want to compile?12:05
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tarelerulzmplayer from ubuntu does not have win32 in it12:06
Branded_Atomwhy not get it with adept or synaptic12:06
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tarelerulzuless I am missing way to have it install that12:06
Branded_Atombut thats just codec pack12:06
tarelerulzWell, That is the whole reason for getting mplayer12:07
tarelerulzthat is part if it to me12:07
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Branded_Atomcan i suggest just getting the codec pack?12:08
tarelerulzThat is the whole reason I got mplayer12:08
tarelerulzsay I get the coded pack how to get mplayer to use it12:08
tarelerulzthat is what I would like to know12:08
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Branded_Atomyou put the files in the codec folder12:09
tarelerulzI had mplayer installed before and I just thougtht if I did apt-get it might fix some of the bugs I had been having12:09
tarelerulzI had just copy all the files over from other system12:10
Slynderdale!svn12:10
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/12:10
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JoshH2k<raylu> JoshH2k, are you using the HLDS update tool? << Sorry, yes I am.12:10
rayluok12:11
Branded_Atomjust get  the win32 codecs pack and untar them to /usr/lib/codecs12:11
rayluSo you can't even download the files?12:11
JoshH2kI try to execute it from the shell as ./hldsupdatetool.bin, and bash informs that I don't have permission12:11
tarelerulzThat may sound dumb ,but you ever click on the web link for cvc12:11
SlynderdaleHmm, where do I get the SVN command in Kubuntu?12:11
rayluHm...one second, JoshH2k12:11
tarelerulzI had the files there before12:11
tarelerulzwin3212:11
tarelerulzthe new install did not see them12:11
Branded_Atomdid you untar all the files out...12:12
Branded_Atomor just leave the pack intact?12:12
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tarelerulzI mean am I missing something12:12
Minataku!svn12:12
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/12:12
rayludid you give the tool +x?12:12
tarelerulzI thought do apt-get to install it would do all that12:12
Branded_Atomnope12:13
MinatakuHm12:13
Minataku!find svn12:13
ubotuFound: libapache2-svn, libsvn-core-perl, libsvn-doc, libsvn-javahl, libsvn-ruby (and 27 others)12:13
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rayluJoshH2k, did you give HLDSupdatetool +x?12:13
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JoshH2kraylu - I've tried 755 and 77712:13
MinatakuBleh12:13
Minatakulol12:13
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rayluEr...those only modify owner, group, and user12:13
rayluchmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin12:13
SlynderdaleMinataku: Yea, Wasn't that helpful when I tried12:13
xenolplz i need deb for amd64 kubuntu dapper for vigor318 modem can i use deb from debian?12:13
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MinatakuSlynderdale: Heh12:14
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JoshH2kDoesn't that simply add execute permissions to owner, group, and others?12:14
tarelerulzis there an easy how-to for cvs12:14
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MinatakuAt least you're learning how to use things XD12:14
rayluYes. Which is what you need to do, right?12:14
JoshH2kRight; and 755 would give everyone at least read & execute12:14
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JoshH2kI'll try it, though12:14
MinatakuHm12:15
Minataku!help12:15
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:15
JoshH2kraylu: -bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: Permission denied12:15
rayluI thought 755 only gave read and write12:15
MinatakuSorry, I got a goofy response in PM related to that12:15
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rayluHm...strange. I just did it and it worked12:15
MinatakuIt does12:15
JoshH2k5 would be 101 - r-x12:15
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MinatakuThe goofy response came when I asked it "help find"12:16
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