[12:47] <kwwii> troy_s: hey man
[12:48] <troy_s> sup kwwii?
[12:48] <kwwii> had to fix a friends windows computer
[12:48] <kwwii> ie turn it off, unplug it, turn it back on
[12:48] <kwwii> thanks be to god that worked
[12:56] <troy_s> lol
[12:58] <troy_s> anything new happening with you kwwii?
[12:59] <kwwii> troy_s: not too much, been working on the usplash pretty much all day
[12:59] <kwwii> that and lots of emails :-)
[12:59] <kwwii> troy_s: you?
[12:59] <troy_s> yeah there are a few of those.
[01:00] <troy_s> not as much as I would have liked to.  i need to get some scrapbook shit together for this film project.
[01:00] <troy_s> alas, my head is pounding.
[01:02] <troy_s> have you been chatting with sab?
[01:07] <kwwii> been ping-ponging each other with emails
[01:07] <troy_s> super fun
[01:07] <kwwii> yeah, really
[01:07] <kwwii> no...really :p
[01:08] <kwwii> actually, until now the colaboration has been very working very well
[01:08] <troy_s> until now?
[01:08] <troy_s> lol
[01:08] <troy_s> collaboration... sure.
[01:09] <troy_s> well hopefully it will go ok for you...
[01:10] <troy_s> i can't imagine otherwise unless you try to really hit some distinctive elements out.
[01:13] <kwwii> well, with the time schedule for feisty doing something radically new is out of the question anyway
[01:14] <kwwii> and doing radically new things is not probably going to be done by one person anyway, lest it go astray
[01:58] <troy_s> kwwii Well yes.  The point being is that the 6 month cycle isn't exactly conducive to a longer term level of design anyways.
[01:59] <troy_s> I wouldn't even say radical is a question -- just getting everything into a suitable top drawer sort of presentation would take longer than a 6month cycle.
[01:59] <troy_s> Right now, the underlying issues are handicapping that element anyways.
[02:08] <kwwii> right on both counts
[02:09] <kwwii> and to think that I did a release every 3 months at suse
[02:09] <kwwii> it's like being expected to fart artwork
[02:39] <troy_s> kwwii well that would really cripple the bloody work.
[02:39] <troy_s> kwwii I think that in order to really have a chance, we need to be developing the next while twiddling the now enough to keep sab happy.
[02:40] <troy_s> That said, the 'next' would also need to be approved by him, which again, given that he has had completely free reign, seems to be
[02:40] <troy_s> a problem to try and actually develop any sort of distinct identity.
[02:54] <kwwii> troy_s: yepp, I agree with that
[02:57] <Viper550> Is any of the Fiesty art so far on the wiki/in packages?
[03:10] <kwwii> Viper550: nope, only in packages
[03:11] <kwwii> erm, reread your question
[03:11] <kwwii> no wiki stuff, only packages
[03:11] <kwwii> and only the usplash and a wallpaper until onw
[03:11] <kwwii> now
[08:42] <nysosym> hi there :)
[08:43] <kwwii> moin
[08:43] <kwwii> w00t! the usplash is now final :-)
[08:43] <nysosym> have u seen my new icon for update notifier kwwii ? :)
[08:44] <nysosym> Yes? Can is see them? :)
[08:44] <kwwii> nysosym: it is in the process of being uploaded
[08:45] <kwwii> nysosym: hrm, I guess I missed that - really liked the one lapo made
[08:45] <nysosym> ok, but i can't use feisty, madwifi doesn't work and i can't see the new version :-/
[08:46] <nysosym> kwwii: sure i like lapos although very much, but i think these icons doesn't match with the human look
[08:47] <kwwii> nysosym: yeah, they need a bit of gloss and so
[08:47] <kwwii> but the metaphor itsel is very nice
[08:47] <kwwii> did you post a version to the mailing list?
[08:47] <kwwii> if so, I cannot find it
[08:47] <nysosym> damn, anytime i send new mails with my new adress and these aren't in this list
[08:48] <nysosym> mom
[08:49] <nysosym> its out :)
[08:49] <kwwii> nysosym: probably need to change the list subscription to point to the new address
[08:49] <nysosym> do u have a new mail?
[08:50] <kwwii> yepp
[08:50] <kwwii> here is a few ideas
[08:50] <nysosym> good :)
[08:50] <kwwii> the white has very little contrast against the orange
[08:50] <kwwii> and I think that orange is more along the lines of what we need than red
[08:51] <kwwii> the gloss on the icon should probably be curved to match the gloss on other icons (like the folder, for instance)
[08:51] <nysosym> well, i have used the orange from the human folders ^^
[08:51] <nysosym> the gloss is although from the folders ^^
[08:51] <kwwii> you would probably need to add a slight line around the white arrow
[08:51] <kwwii> yeah, the gloss itself is ok, but it should probably have a curved lower edge
[08:52] <nysosym> well, good points thx :)
[08:52] <nysosym> i will do my best :)
[08:52] <kwwii> no problem
[08:52] <kwwii> sabdfl really likes the ones that lapo sent, btw...not sure how much time I would stick into making other versions :-)
[08:53] <kwwii> not that I want to stop you, just thought you should know
[08:54] <nysosym> no problem, i didn't have a problem with this, i can't use my icon for mayself for instance ^^
[08:54] <kwwii> cool
[08:58] <nysosym> can`t =can ^^
[08:58] <kwwii> yeah, I figured that out ;-)
[09:02] <nysosym> hehe ;)
[09:09] <nysosym> kwwii: the gloss more to the bottom of this icon?
[09:09] <kwwii> nysosym: not necessarily...just add a curve to it
[09:10] <kwwii> gotta run...be back later
[09:10] <nysosym> thx, have a nice day :)
[09:14] <nysosym> hi andreasn
[09:14] <andreasn> hi nysosym
[09:14] <andreasn> how are things?
[09:30] <nysosym> andreasn: well, all fine here :)
[09:30] <nysosym> little bit stress, valentine day...
[09:31] <nysosym> woman.... ^^
[10:07] <nysosym> andreasn: what do u think about my update notifier icon?
[10:08] <nysosym> http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g4642vy9.png
[11:35] <nysosym> re
[12:51] <andreasn> looks a bit unsharp, but other than that it looks nice
[12:53] <kwwii> hi andreasn
[12:53] <kwwii> how's things?
[12:54] <andreasn> I have a cold
[12:54] <andreasn> so I more or less slept all day
[12:54] <kwwii> ouch
[12:54] <kwwii> sorry to hear that
[12:54] <kwwii> get well soon :-)
[12:55] <andreasn> but now I'm trying to track down a invoice to a customer that might have got lost in the post
[12:55] <andreasn> thanks
[05:46] <troy_s> wholly overcomplicated 24 pixel icons.
[05:49] <troy_s> kwwii re the update lapo icon -- humanize it if sabdfl is going to go with it.  otherwise it is yet one more step down the road to frankenstein.
[09:17] <nysosym> hi there
[10:06] <nysosym> hi Seveas
[10:08] <kwwii> howdy Seveas
[10:11] <kwwii> Seveas: thinking about including a decent set of aspect ratios in the usplash
[10:11] <kwwii> Seveas: any ideas on that front?
[10:11] <kwwii> Seveas: oh, and it looks like we are going to be able to use 16 or 24bit graphics
[10:11] <Seveas> kwwii, -ETIME, I planned on doing that for feisty but some hell in my private life prevented that
[10:12] <Seveas> 16/24bit: not in the near future
[10:14] <kwwii> Seveas: from what mjg59 and tfheen say it should be doable (we'll still have the 256 as backup)
[10:15] <Seveas> kwwii, good to hear, they know infinitelymore than me about that
[10:16] <kwwii> Seveas: it would certainly make it easier to make pics for it
[10:16] <kwwii> Seveas: but in any case, I want to include a few aspect ratios and I thought maybe you have an idea which ones would be good
[10:16] <kwwii> and which sizes I should make
[10:16] <kwwii> Seveas: the new stuff is pure svg (and already works with 8bit)
[10:17] <kwwii> so the pics are not a problem
[10:17] <kwwii> Seveas: but I do not want to include too much as it only takes up space on the CDs
[10:39] <nysosym> kwwii: hi, please make a 1680x1050 version of usplash! :)))
[10:42] <nysosym> here is my favorite list 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1280x800, 1680x1050, 1680x1200
[10:42] <nysosym> that's the most used resolutions :)
[10:50] <nysosym> there is all in 4:3, 4:5, 16:10, 16:9
[10:53] <nysosym> gn8 @ all :)
[11:06] <msikma> 16:9? That's very uncommonly used by monitors, isn't it?
[11:06] <msikma> All wide screens I've ever used or seen were 16:10.
[11:17] <kwwii> yeah, 16:10 is probably a better ratio
[11:28] <PingunZ> mine is 16:10
[11:58] <troy_s> 16:9 is standard HD.
[12:01] <msikma> troy_s: yes, for primarily televisions
[12:02] <msikma> I have never seen a 16:9 computer monitor
[12:02] <msikma> I guess you could support those that hook up Ubuntu on an external HD television but it seems that there's very limited space on the CD.
[12:06] <troy_s> msikma: Not really an issue if SVG is included on the cd
[12:06] <troy_s> seems to make the most logical sense.
[12:08] <msikma> You'll still need to tell it to downscale properly and proportionally, and in that case you might as well use a large PNG