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[12:49] sigmatel, too. === wasabi_ [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] c [01:06] TheMuso: oh no, not this again [01:07] LaserJock: heh === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:15] mdz: do I leave open bug 84992 (apport) [01:15] Malone bug 84992 in apport "Apport not working due to network problem" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84992 === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Eons [n=Eons@151.76.187.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sjoerd [n=sjoerd@tunnel3460.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:31] hi, does anybody know if nvidia-drivers are ok in feisty? last time I used them, they crashed when an app went fullscreen === johanbr [n=j@blk-137-114-65.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] could a archive deity perform backport bug 83554? [01:37] Malone bug 83554 in edgy-backports "KTorrent 2.1" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83554 [01:37] (high demand) === Kano [n=kano@91.64.67.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] so tested a kernel without IDE support and PATA full active. on P965 and P865 no problems - but with former selection === dilinger [n=dilinger@146-115-126-156.c3-0.arl-ubr1.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sjoerd [n=sjoerd@tunnel3460.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:44] formerly problematic === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:48] Kano: sweet, that's awesome to hear :) [01:49] btw not my systems [01:49] but others reported it [01:49] aww Kano , no Core 2 Duo at your disposal? :) === holycow [n=hello@mail.wjsgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:50] http://kanotix.com/files/fix/kernel-update-pack-noide/source/changes.tar.gz [01:50] jdong: no, x2 [01:50] abi change for generic only [01:51] precompiled for etch too, but i think you would not use that ;) [01:52] as long as mc does have problems with changing into long dir names (not always, but too often), i prefer etch [01:52] have no idea what the problem is with feisty [01:54] btw. that test changes are very extreme, maybe use it only for testing [01:54] enabled experimental drivers too [01:54] no problems ripping audiocd here, that has been problematic with old pata code === BenC__ [n=bcollins@collinsap1.phunnypharm.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:55] i tested it on nforce3 === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjg59_ [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Trewas [n=ilonen@raato.lut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daviey [n=dave1111@cpc1-sout2-0-0-cust111.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === user_ [n=user@bl4-198-159.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alinux [n=vsichi@host194-124-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host194-124-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Weems [n=weems@68.113.96.3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxSOS [n=vsichi@host194-124-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === visik7 [n=visi@host13-167-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:03] who do I need to talk to about universe UVFEs? === keescook moves to #u-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.14.19.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fnordus [n=dnall@24.85.128.203] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@122.0.231.117] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kano [n=kano@91.64.67.21] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.5.14] has joined #ubuntu-devel === holycow [n=hello@mail.wjsgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-b3b61e982e01e97e] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:35] Launchpad will be going down in 15 minutes for a scheduled code update. Estimated downtime is 15 minutes. === faux_ [n=christia@1-1-4-21a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gus_m [n=gus_m@84-12-153-143.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gus_m [n=gus_m@84-12-153-143.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.15.10.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor__ [n=sebi@p57AEDEE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ is now known as asac === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:46] morning === jdub_ [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub_ is now known as jdub === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === quail_linux [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9A3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stephanb [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TerminX [i=780fa7a8@adsl-68-123-181-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F71A0E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:32] good morning [07:33] morning dholbach [07:33] hey Burgundavia === marilize [n=marilize@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:02] hmmmm, shiny usplash on amd64 === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:03] argh, when did ubuntu-desktop become uninstallable? === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:14] dholbach: just pushed a new usplash - the final one it seems :-) [08:15] kwwii: yoohoo :) [08:15] now that is a good way to start the day ;-) [08:19] kwwii: uploaded [08:19] dholbach: excellent, thanks :-) === Kagou [n=Kagou@88.140.35.50] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:29] hi [08:33] dholbach: are you sure? I can't see it. [08:33] usplash-theme-ubuntu 0.12? [08:33] sweet i810 and -modesetting are about to merge -> -intel [08:33] i definitely uploaded it [08:33] Successfully uploaded usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.12.dsc to upload.ubuntu.com. [08:33] Successfully uploaded usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.12.tar.gz to upload.ubuntu.com. [08:33] Successfully uploaded usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.12_source.changes to upload.ubuntu.com. [08:35] tfheen: I can re-upload if you like [08:35] dholbach: hmm, weird, it's not in unapproved [08:35] dholbach: please. [08:36] done === dsas [n=dean@host81-129-229-157.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:39] tfheen: better? === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:40] no, I need to investigate. [08:41] but first I need to pop out for an hour or so. [08:41] kwwii's mail address is Kenneth Wimer and I sponsored with my usual key [08:41] hmmh [08:41] I think we're seeing this only with sponsored uploads, right? [08:41] ok see you later [08:46] brb === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F71A0E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-8-55.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sky_walkie [i=czzhrd02@xdsl-563.lodz.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:01] Anyone knows the actual title of sabdfl at canonical? ceo? president? person in charge? [09:04] "Mark"? [09:04] boss-man :p [09:04] I'm trying to be factually correct for a fridge article. Right now I have "the man behind Ubuntu and Canonical" :) [09:06] "founder of Ubuntu" seems to appear on the Linspire press release [09:06] robitaille: CEO, according to other news sites: http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=20495&hed=Linux%3A+Ubuntu+Founder+On+Microsoft+%E2%80%9CChallenge%E2%80%9D+ [09:06] sounds better than "Fearless leader of merry men" === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] Lure...I have seen CEO before, but never in actual ubuntu sites...and his official bio doesn't say. === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-90-40.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:08] CEO is also on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanonicalStaff. no doubt someone who actually works at Canonical will answer your question :D [09:09] Good morning [09:10] ugh, why is my desktop so damn slow after yesterday's dist-upgrade? [09:11] pitti: what especially? [09:11] if you're experiencing audio glitches and hitches in the mouse cursor movement, try stopping apport. [09:11] dholbach: switching desktops, typing characters into terminal/xchat etc. === Nuscly [n=nuscly@29-231.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:12] crimsun: hm, mouse works fine, and apport is not running ATM === mvo [n=egon@p54A6670F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:13] pitti: i wondered myself - I did a fresh install on my new amd64 and expected it to be blatantly fast, but ... hm - I'm not so very much impressed right now :) === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:14] dholbach: I switched from nvidia to nv yesterday (new kernel didn't yet have lrm), and it got a little slower; but today it's really sluggish... [09:14] i usually use nv [09:15] freedom lover! [09:16] yeah [09:16] dholbach: nv with Xv is broken at least for me (comb effect), but mplayer with SDL backend works fine [09:16] dholbach: I just can't use Totem with nv, but that's something I can live with [09:16] hmmm strange [09:17] totem works fine for me (xv with nv) === Huahua [n=hua@122.0.231.117] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:23] dholbach: even fullscreen? [09:24] dholbach: as soon as I scale a video to more than, say 1.5 times the original size, I get huge comb effects [09:25] hmm, X.org uses 100% cpu if I merely scroll down some lines in a terminal === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A90080.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:46] tfheen: process-upload is commented out in lp_queue's crontab, which is why usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.12 isn't appearing. Do you know why? [09:47] I see the publisher's commented out too === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga_ [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F4FDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@193.10.130.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:09] cjwatson: no idea. === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joumetal [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [n=herzi@p548FBD8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lukketto [n=lukketto@host86-8-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] cjwatson: do you have any idea why /testing/feisty_probs claims ubuntu-desktop is uninstallable? It's not from a freshly bootstrapped chroot. [10:23] tfheen: it says that linuxprinting.org-ppds is uninstallable, so I'd start there === siretart noticed yesterday that aptitude felt like removing ubuntu-desktop. might be a related problem. [10:23] tfheen: IIRC from conversations yesterday that was being changed to openprinting-ppds, so maybe just a metapackage update is needed === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:24] : tfheen@golem ~ > apt-cache show linuxprinting.org-ppds | grep Task [10:24] : tfheen@golem ~ > [10:24] so it's not part of ubuntu-desktop any more. [10:24] ubuntu-desktop still depends on it here [10:24] cjwatson, tfheen: I changed the seeds yesterday [10:24] argh [10:25] pitti: you need to upload -meta too. [10:25] cjwatson, tfheen: but yesterday's foomatic-db upload reintroduced the old names as transitional packags [10:25] can you do that now? [10:25] pitti: ... which apparently are uninstallable [10:25] pitti: yes, which C/F/R the old ones. [10:25] that's why I didn't bother with a -meta upload, since it's not too important [10:25] ah, indeed [10:25] tfheen: sorry; doing now [10:26] fixing openprinting-ppds' Conflicts to be versioned << first-transitional-version would be good too [10:26] (and -extra) [10:26] Replaces should probably be versioned too [10:26] right === pitti does that as well === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-90-40.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:32] cjwatson: http://paste.stgraber.org/60 [10:33] cjwatson: (had to change Maintianer: too, my local dpkg already refuses to build the previous one) [10:33] tfheen: ^ ok for uploading? [10:35] pitti: yes. [10:35] pitti: and if we have to set original-maintainer, it should be possible to just set it sans [10:35] tfheen: foomatic-db, {,k}ubuntu-meta uploaded, edubuntu-meta in the works [10:35] X-SBC-blah [10:36] it should? will it appear in the .dsc if you do that? [10:36] tfheen: how so? [10:36] I would have thought dpkg-gencontrol would ignore i [10:36] t [10:36] only XS- will make it appear in the .dsc [10:36] pitti: having to add X-SBC-headers to anything we upload is crack. [10:37] it should then just be a regular header in dpkg. [10:37] B is not strictly necessary since pkgbinarymangler does it, but it ensures consistent local builds [10:37] oh you mean "should" as in "ought to, in the future" [10:37] cjwatson: yes. [10:37] ah, sure [10:38] tfheen: this topic will appear on tomorrow's distro team meeting anyway, I have some things to discuss about it [10:38] pitti: goodie [10:39] tfheen: edubuntu-meta is up === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@147.28-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_ [n=mpt@121-72-137-28.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:47] kwwii,dholbach: I just rejected the second usplash-theme-ubuntu which showed up. No need to get worried about getting both an accept and a reject mail. [10:47] kwwii,dholbach: JFYI. [10:47] alright === jdub_ [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] pitti: would you be able to do another kubuntu-meta update, I had to change the seeds to save size but the source to your recent upload isn't on launchpad yet [10:53] Riddell: sure === dsas [n=dean@host81-129-229-157.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:55] tfheen: xubuntu-meta updated as well (oh my, this was very out of date) [10:55] pitti: cheers === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-16-179.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:00] Is there a good point to start when a "make" fails but a second "make" (without anything else) succeeds? [11:00] Happy HugDay! === pkl_ [n=phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:03] Riddell, tfheen: new kubuntu-meta uploaded with Jonathan's recent change [11:04] pitti: ook === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.21.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] OH CRAP ! === ogra just rsynced the serveraddon CD over his server CD [11:17] crap indeed === janimo [n=jani@89.137.122.195] has joined #ubuntu-devel === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:21] pitti, i see you did a lot of -meta uploads, are you planning to do edubuntu as well ? [11:21] ogra: I did [11:22] ohg, my evo filter sorted it wrong [11:22] indeed [11:22] thanks :) === lukketto [n=lukketto@host86-8-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:27] seb128, bug 76632, any idea why the socket isnt there ? [11:27] Malone bug 76632 in gnome-screensaver "screen does not unlock after locking" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76632 [11:28] (third last comment) [11:28] ogra: we moved it to /var/run [11:28] ouch, ok [11:28] i'll check gss .... [11:28] I didn't realize gnome-screensaver was using it, sorry [11:28] me neither :) [11:29] ogra: it must have /tmp/.gdm_socket hardcoded [11:29] looks like [11:29] urgh [11:29] change it to /var/run/.gdm_socket [11:29] i'll fix [11:29] seb128: that smells like an easy gdm DoS [11:29] pitti: what do you mean? using a socket? or storing it to /var/run? [11:29] seb128: hardcoded file names in /tmp [11:30] src/cut-n-paste/gdm-queue.c:#define GDM_SOCKET_FILENAME "/tmp/.gdm_socket" [11:30] tsk [11:30] seb128: why .gdm_socket? Hidden files are ugly. [11:30] pitti: well, now they are hardcoded to /var/run :p [11:30] seb128: that's fine, /var/run is only root-writable [11:30] tfheen: I was thinking the same, I'll change it for "gdm_socket" but after herd4 [11:30] or do you want gdm and gnome-session changed now? [11:30] seb128: no, after herd 4 is fine. [11:30] ok [11:31] but I'd like a working gss now. === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] ogra: ^^ can you do that now? [11:31] tfheen: ogra is on it apparently [11:33] tfheen, uploading [11:34] cheers [11:35] tfheen: I've done a gnome-cups-manager upload which install the .desktop at the correct place so it's listed by the new control-center shell (with a fixed category) if you want to approve it for herd4 [11:36] seb128: accepted. [11:36] thank you [11:37] pitti, bug 85006, seems there is a bashism in hal [11:37] Malone bug 85006 in gnome-power-manager "gnome-power-manager and gnome-brightness applet not changing brightness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85006 === Zdra [n=zdra@147.28-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso_ [n=luke@dsl-124-149-101-87.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:39] ogra: that was fixed in hal 0.5.8.1-4ubuntu3 three weeks ago [11:39] ogra: thanks for the pointer, I dup it to 68617 [11:39] pitti, ah, ok, sorry for the noise then [11:39] yeah [11:40] pitti, and husghsie asked me if we plan to ship hal-info in feisty [11:40] ogra: no worries, thanks for the pointer -- one bug less :) [11:41] ogra: ~/ubuntu/hal/hal/build-tree/hal-0.5.8.1$ find -name hal-info* -> no hits [11:41] strange ... he knows which version we ship .... is it a separate source ? === elkbuntu_ [n=melissa@ppp26-162.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:42] ogra, apparently yes http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=hal-info.git;a=summary [11:43] aha === jdub_ is now known as jdub [11:44] thats a lot of fdi files ... === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:45] which incorporate some of our patches even .... nice === K-Rich [n=krich@blender/artist/K-Rich] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:48] i think there is an isure with the archives.ubuntu.com servers .... i keep getting tcp hits from archive.ubuntu.com on random ports in the 40000 - 60000 range. [11:48] s/isure/issue [11:48] pitti, i think it makes sense to have these extra fdi files ... but they will clash with some of our existing hal patches [11:49] ogra: aaaah [11:49] mjg59: would it be painful to make usplash use 16bpp images and/or would it break suspend/resume? [11:49] ogra: you mean the hal-info git repo [11:49] yep [11:49] ogra: the hal upstream release is the hal plus the hal-info git repos combined [11:49] K-Rich: what are the source ports? [11:49] aaah ! [11:49] ogra: it's just separate that guys like us can commit to hal-info, but not to hal [11:49] s/that/so that/ [11:49] so we actually ship it [11:49] ogra: yes, of course [11:49] these FDIs are very important [11:50] ogra: I regularly submit new music players as git patches against hal-info and such [11:50] tfheen, one sec [11:50] well, some of our patches look a bit different ... [11:50] ogra: sorry, I thought you meant a new program hal-info [11:50] ogra: right, that's mostly because 0.5.8.1 is really ages old [11:50] upstream should really do a new release [11:50] well, since i never heard of it before hughsie asked i didnt know if its a program or what :) [11:50] then we can drop 80% of our giant patch collection [11:51] would you pull it into feisty ? === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:52] asac: I would love you forever if you could take a look at bug 81207; I'm lost with that... [11:52] Malone bug 81207 in apport "webbrowser fails to open for system crash when it runs as root" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81207 [11:53] ogra: you mean using hal-info git head and rebasing our patches? well, if it helps us to fix some bugs, sure === tkamppeter [n=till@bl8-119-97.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:54] ogra: but I guess that would need to be accompanied by source code patches [11:54] hi tkamppeter [11:54] pitti, i meant a new upstream :) [11:54] hi, pitti [11:54] pitti: looking [11:55] ogra: oh, not sure; it has the potential for a lot of bug fixes, but also a lot of regressions; it's a core part of our system now... [11:55] yep === joumetal [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === asac has fear to run pittis script ;) [12:00] seb128, wow, not having the socket available has really weird sideeffects in gss [12:00] asac: of course you should take a look at it frist [12:00] asac: and remove all the rm -rf ~ commands :-D [12:00] ogra: yeah :/ [12:01] like if i kill gnome-screensaver from the console after i cant unlock, the dialog window stays [12:01] tkamppeter: hi, for bugs such as 83960 is it enough to post an xml to lp? Or do you prefer directly to openprinting upstream? [12:01] ogra: You need to kill g-s and g-s-d. [12:02] Fujitsu, well ... g-s-d should die with its parent :) [12:02] It should. [12:02] (and it should also unlock when asked :P) [12:02] but it hangs looking for the socket ... [12:02] Sounds like fun to debug. [12:03] easy to debug ... [12:03] but that code needs a lot of overhaul ... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:04] Hobbsee: happy Valentine's day! [12:05] it should use different searchpaths for the socket and refuse to lock if its not there ... [12:05] tfheen, where do i find my firewall log files (i use firestarter) [12:05] K-Rich: no idea, I don't use firewalls. [12:06] hey pitti :) [12:06] pitti: happy valentine's day to you too :) === Hobbsee doesnt have a valentine :P === Hobbsee hugs pitti, ogra and tfheen === tfheen bounces around Hobbsee and is hugged. [12:06] hehe [12:06] how's Sydney today? === ogra hugs back === pitti got a self-made chocolate cake from his gf *yummy* [12:07] nice! [12:07] tfheen: dunno, havent seen much of it. been working [12:07] brb, lunch [12:07] (yes, it's 10.07pm here) [12:08] I got slightly confused about that, yes. [12:09] hehe [12:10] pitti, for a typical main incl review are the debs perused as well or just the source package? I was wondering if NEW source processing and MIR can happen in one step :D [12:10] slomo, wow, you are fast :) [12:11] tfheen, well it seems to be random ports in the 30000 - 60000 range [12:11] janimo: I always check the .debs for promotion [12:11] K-Rich: I doubt the source ports are in that range. [12:11] pitti, ok thanks [12:11] ogra: i just saw the bug in #ubuntu-bugs by accident ;) [12:11] janimo: so binary NEW and promotion can happen at the same time [12:11] heh [12:11] Hobbsee: you can be *MY* valentine! [12:11] tfheen, Time: Feb 14 04:10:53 Source: 91.189.89.182 Destination: 10.0.0.3 In IF: eth0 Out IF: Port: 60518 Length: 44 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown [12:11] mneptok: you wish. [12:12] pitti: thats a bit strange ... indeed === mneptok watches Hobbsee re-assess homosexuality [12:12] mneptok: errrr.....? [12:12] asac: it works fine if I run 'firefox ' directly [12:12] Hobbsee: ... as an alternative. [12:12] tfheen, Time: Feb 14 04:12:22 Source: 91.189.89.182 Destination: 10.0.0.3 In IF: eth0 Out IF: Port: 52343 Length: 44 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown [12:12] asac: so there must be something ffox wants from the environment or parent process that I don't know about [12:12] mneptok: oh, in response to you. gotcha. [12:12] pitti: yep [12:12] K-Rich: I don't think that's the source port, just the destination port. [12:13] asac: hm, it just occured to me that in the sudo script, the calling process does not have all the auxiliary groups that the running firefox has [12:14] Time: Feb 14 04:13:23 Source: 91.189.89.182 Destination: 10.0.0.3 In IF: eth0 Out IF: Port: 52352 Length: 44 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown [12:15] Which probably means it's an ACK. [12:15] Based on the port, destination and length. [12:15] pitti: firefox detects the lock in profile dir, but fails to run the remote command against the already running instance [12:17] tfheen, very odd, happens when i 'sudo aptitude update' [12:17] asac: if I call epiphany -n in the script, then it works and returns immediately, so it's not something deep in the mozembed stuff [12:18] K-Rich: so it's legal traffic. [12:18] K-Rich: you have a misconfigured firewall; go to #ubuntu for support, please. === K-Rich [n=krich@blender/artist/K-Rich] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === carlos_ [n=carlos@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:31] Riddell: could you download http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/ubuntu-bug and check whether it correctly invokes apport-qt in bug filing mode for you? (e. g. 'ubuntu-bug -p bash') [12:32] pitti: apport-qt pops up briefly saying "uploading" then konqueror starts up [12:33] cjwatson: you were going to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/84597 fixed this morning, weren't you? [12:33] Malone bug 84597 in ubiquity "[apport] ubiquity crashed with AssertionError in subst()" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:33] Riddell: that sounds right [12:33] Riddell: and the dialog was okay, looked like apport-qt? [12:34] Riddell: I plan to stuff this script into /usr/bin, so that people can call it from the shell, and we also need it for firefox 'Report a bug...' menu integration [12:35] Riddell: a quick eyeballing of the script is appreciated, too [12:35] tfheen: yeah, working on it [12:35] cjwatson: thanks. [12:35] Riddell: first I test pgrep -u `id -u` -x ksmserver >/dev/null, and fall back to pure [ -x apport-qt ] if neither gnome-session nor ksmserver is running [12:36] pitti: What if gnome-session is the process that just crashed? :-) [12:36] pitti: all looks good to me [12:36] StevenK: then it'll still DTRT in the usual case [12:37] unless the user has two X session running, one with gnome and one with kde [12:37] but even so it's not a problem to have the gtk frontend on kde [12:37] StevenK: worst case is that if you run KDE and have apport-gtk installed, then you'll get the gtk interface. No big deal, I'd say [12:37] Riddell: right [12:37] Riddell: I thought KDE rolled over and killed Gnome in that case? :-P === pitti rings the bell for "DE war, round 8320427" [12:37] KDE doesn't roll over for anybody [12:38] pitti: :-) [12:38] Riddell: thanks for checking [12:38] Riddell: I won't reply what I'm thinking. :-P [12:38] pitti: .de war? you german guys... :p [12:38] Bwahaha [12:38] seb128: DE, not .de !!!111! [12:39] ah :) === pitti hugs seb128 === seb128 hugs pitti back === pitti ponders abandoning Gnome, it still cannot open the Rhythmbox cover and lyrics plugins [12:39] seb128: (just kidding) === tfheen kicks the slacking buildds. [12:40] pitti: it's kicking ass in feisty here. the cover one at least, not tried lyrics ;) [12:40] pitti: I think you might face http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404932 [12:40] Gnome bug 404932 in Programmatic interfaces "Python modules do not work on 64-bit and Python 2.5" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [12:40] Ng: it worked before, and suddenly stopped working a while ago; however, (kicks ass)++ [12:40] pitti: which is fixed upstream and will be fixed for feisty [12:40] pitti: harsh :( [12:40] seb128: aaaah [12:41] pitti: while ago being the switch to python2.5? [12:41] seb128: entirely possible [12:42] I'll ping you to test when the new version will be to feisty [12:42] seb128: btw, do you use rb yourself? [12:42] yep [12:42] but on i386 :) [12:42] seb128: I find it quite annoying that an album doesn't start playing any more when I double-click on it [12:42] seb128: is that a bug or a feature? === pitti is in whining mood today, sorry === pitti fixes some apport bugs in exchange [12:43] pitti: I'd hope that it was a bug, as it was nice to be able to do that. [12:43] a bug I would say, I double click on the first track usually, I didn't know that double click on the album was doing something ;) [12:43] pitti: no problem don't worry ;) === pitti files a 'Low' bug [12:43] Artist/Album double-clicking played all the tracks listed. [12:43] Fujitsu: right, that was really handy [12:44] pitti: don't bother [12:45] pitti: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404753 fixed in SVN [12:45] Gnome bug 404753 in general "Can't double click artist/album in browser to play" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [12:45] seb128: these Gnome dudes rock [12:45] ;) === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:52] Riddell,mvo: software-properties appears to be telling people to report bugs on ubiquity. Could you please make it stop doing that? [12:52] ./data/designer/crashdialog.ui:102: <a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+filebug</a> === sacater [n=sacater@host86-143-96-119.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] cjwatson: oh sorry, my fault, I'll fix it now in bzr [12:53] tfheen: please let a fix for that through - it's beginning to seriously piss me off :) === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-53-95.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] cjwatson: will do. [12:53] Riddell: note a number of crash reports that I've been getting, reassigned === davmor2 [n=davmor2@62-30-74-119.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:55] pitti: have you had time to review my script to modify the Maintainer field in source packages? [12:56] geser: oh, I wasn't even aware of it [12:56] pitti: http://members.ping.de/~mb/srcmaintainermangler/ [12:56] geser: I wrote my own script on Monday (just took me some 15 minutes, not a biggie) [12:56] geser: thanks! [12:56] it's based on pkgmaintermangler [12:56] geser: doko already had a script for doing mass uploads, so I just adapted that [12:57] is it available somewhere? === pitti scp's === jamesh [n=james@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] geser: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/update-maintainer-transition [12:58] Query: can anyone let me know what is currently happening with nm not working with rt2500 wireless cards? Is there anything that can be done? [01:00] Riddell: will you fix it in the ~ubuntu-core-dev repo? [01:00] mvo: yes [01:01] geser: I'm not really happy with mass uploads for this [01:01] we shouldn't be causing that kind of mirror hit === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:02] cjwatson: I don't plan to mass-upload anything [01:02] and we definitely should only be modifying packages that already have *ubuntu* versions, which that script doesn't seem to do [01:03] my script only automates the changing of the maintainer field [01:03] ok, just saying :) [01:03] cjwatson: right, I doubt the usefulness of mass-upload as well [01:03] tfheen: I've uploaded a control-center update which fixes gnome-default-applications-properties (it was looking for the applications list to the wrong place), would be nice to accept for herd4 [01:03] cjwatson: mdz asked me to do that, but the request was a bit ambiguous [01:04] Shouldn't there be some way for DDs to say `I don't want my fields mangled'? [01:04] cjwatson: that's why I'll put it on tomorrow's agenda [01:04] There is [01:04] StevenK: Not for source packages. [01:04] pitti's script also misses packages using debian/control.in to generate debian/control [01:04] seb128: ok [01:04] geser: oh, right [01:04] I will track down and hurt anyone who mass uploads packages just to change the maintainer field [01:04] elmo: That's the spirit. [01:04] elmo: Is that a promise? :-) [01:05] pitti: run away from elmo ;) [01:05] seb128: as I said, I don't think it makes sense [01:05] pitti can run faster than elmo, I think [01:05] seb128: but I'll do it if mdz wants me to :) [01:05] pitti: I was just joking, don't worry ;) === seb128 hugs pitti [01:05] pitti: nope, running away from James doesn't make sense. He'll get to you eventually. :-) [01:05] heh [01:05] 'huh, I can't login to the DC any more, nor upload shit' === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:06] tfheen: you read BofH as well, I figure :-D === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] pitti: not for a long time, but yeah. [01:07] tfheen: fixed that ubiquity bug in bzr, I think, but I need to arrange to test it somehow === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:07] cjwatson: please. [01:07] greetings sabdfl [01:07] cjwatson: just take your time, we need get soyuz fixed too. [01:08] hi all === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] Hey sabdfl. [01:10] I've a question about mozilla-browser (universe) in feisty: Debian removed it already from unstable and replaced it by iceape (aka seamonkey). IMHO we should do the same and replace it also by iceape. Any other opinions on this? [01:10]