[02:11] asac: you should add yourself to the ML [02:12] :) === jhnjwng [n=wj1918@pool-70-21-130-84.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_Chicago looking at wiki pages now to make them better === Admiral_Chicago get his Loco mate to help him. === dfarning [n=dfarning@d14-226.rb2.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:52] seems like karma got fixed today. it doubled for me [11:38] Admiral_Chicago: yep ... though who knows if this is a fix or another bug :) [01:36] anyone running feisty avail? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:54] gnomefreak: hi ... how is your baby doin? [01:58] gnomefreak: I have extended the bugs/states page a bit ... if you have comments let me know [01:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States [01:58] shes doing good :) they are both sleeping atm [01:58] ok ill look [02:00] gnomefreak: are they at home already? [02:01] yeah i was able to bring them home this morning [02:02] what happened to the show bugs link on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags [02:03] they will be extended ... but in general tags used there as quickreferenced should be explained in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States too [02:03] as each state has his own set of valid tags [02:04] anyway ... someone has to update the urls for them :) [02:04] dunno why they are not there anymore [02:05] 06:36 < asac> anyone running feisty avail? [02:05] I am [02:05] Admiral_Chicago: did you make it? [02:05] gnomefreak: yes [02:05] yeah ... great [02:05] congrats [02:05] gnomefreak: thanks [02:05] yw [02:05] Admiral_Chicago: I will upload a new firefox package ... can you at least try if it still integrates well in gnome desktop? [02:06] sabdfl was highly impressed by my work with our team. well our team in general [02:06] Admiral_Chicago: i am not sure because I switched to use official branding build infrastructure und had to revert several patches [02:06] well i don't run GNOME but i'll install it when i'm in class [02:07] you run kde? [02:07] yes [02:07] or what? [02:07] hmmm [02:07] kde should have kde-intergation afaik the spec was oked [02:07] asac: are you uploading it to ubuntu servers? [02:08] today sometime ... but want to test desktop integration before [02:08] s/servers/repos [02:08] asac: ok give me about an hour? [02:08] hour for what? [02:08] i have feisty i just need to do a few things than i can revert the symlinks and test it [02:09] ok ... I still need an hour too :) [02:09] ah good [02:09] have to once again walk through the latest interdiff :) [02:09] asac: unfortunetly I just woke up and have class from 8am - 5pm. it is 7.09 here [02:11] Admiral_Chicago: that sound like a filled schedule [02:12] yes, so I can test at 24 UTC at the earliest [02:27] um wtf is Could not open the address "https://launchpad.net/bugs/85094": [02:27] Malone bug 85094 in firefox "[apport] firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [02:27] There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location. [02:27] can anyone open that link? [02:28] i can open it by copying nad pasting the link into ff but not ctrl+left click :( [02:30] i cant launch any link from irssi anymore :( [02:30] gnomefreak: opening link from terminal works [02:30] i use irssi too in console [02:30] but use gnome terminal feature to open links [02:31] i cant open it :( i removed ff3 and now no links will open from terminal. (using gnome-terminal [02:31] ah [02:31] go to preferences->preferred applications [02:31] there firefox has probably changed your default browser [02:32] fix it by resetting to default app firefox [02:32] ah thats right [02:32] :) [02:32] yeah ... the great "register as default browser feature" :) [02:33] which is broken if you install firefox in /usr hierachy properly [02:33] it just works for dist/bin installs :) [02:33] at least for thunderbird [02:33] i'm off everyone. long day ahead af me. [02:33] its no longer there :( [02:34] Admiral_Chicago: cu [02:35] should be firefox %u right? [02:35] have fun Admiral_Chicago [02:35] yes and i will gnomefreak [02:35] dunno ... if you select firefox from drop down than it should be right [02:35] asac: no drop down :( [02:36] gnome preferred application dialog? [02:36] the drop down only says custom. i think this is a bug in gnome-control-center [02:36] or where are you? [02:36] asac: in perferred apps [02:36] ah [02:36] ok [02:36] than you have no firefox package installed _:) ? [02:37] the preferred application dialog looks if there is an executable /usr/bin/firefox to enable the firefox entry [02:37] sure i do :) [02:37] then you messed something else up [02:37] but should be [02:37] firefox %s [02:38] it works now [02:38] i think it the control ceter that is bugged [02:43] have you tried beryl? [02:44] yes ofcourse :) === gnomefreak head of the desktop-effects team [02:44] ok ... going to lunch .. thing the firefox package should ready for preview upload when I return :) [02:44] really? [02:44] great [02:44] will definitly come back to you :) [02:45] ok and yep :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:42] gnomefreak: you can try [03:42] http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/feisty/firefox [03:42] either pull by hand or add to sources.list [03:42] thx [03:56] ok will do [03:59] aded repo to sources : its easier that way :) [04:00] and what do you mean by better intergration in gnome? its in the menus its got a launcher already ;) [04:06] asac: what package am i wanting? upgrade isnt grabbing it [04:06] hold that thought smart didnt see your repo [04:09] wont let me add your repo it keeps saying malformed line and i had added deb to the front [04:10] wait [04:10] http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/81-APT-repository-Backports-for-sarge-available-+-testing-dropped!.html [04:11] wth is that [04:11] the line should look like that (of course replace the proper url) [04:12] deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/feisty/firefox is what i added since that is where the packages are [04:12] yeah ... append ./ [04:12] ah [04:13] like in the examples above [04:13] ok trying again ty [04:23] they seem to be all amd64.debs that are upgrading my 32bit (this mistake in naming?) [04:24] yeah ... sorry [04:24] can you respin on i386? [04:24] its all good :) might want to change it for upload [04:24] upload will be source only [04:24] thats ubuntu policy [04:25] ah ok [04:25] respin as in rebuild? [04:25] yep [04:26] should be easy enough not really any file changes just grab source diff and dsc and just runt he commands? [04:26] run the* [04:27] will try it in a few [04:33] Host 'FeistyFawn', running Linux 2.6.20-8-generic - Cpu0: Intel 1681 MHz; Up: 17:05; Users: 4; Load: 0.06; Free: [Mem: 26/250 Mio] [Swap: 1398/1459 Mio] ; Vpenis: 20.9 cm; [04:34] just make [04:34] apt-get source firefox [04:34] then go to the firefox-2.0.0.1+1 dir [04:34] and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [04:34] and resolve missing build dependencies [04:34] until it builds [04:35] ah easy enough [04:35] of course you need to add deb-src line [04:35] for apt-get source [04:35] yep [04:35] there is some apt(itude) command to install build depends [04:35] but I forgot [04:35] and do it manually (like described above) [04:35] sudo apt-get build-dep [04:35] ah ... will not build on edgy [04:35] yeah [04:35] :) [04:35] great [04:35] on feisty :) [04:35] good [04:43] you want firefox-gnome-support firefox and firefox-dbg respun? or all of the packages? [04:43] just all [04:43] just [04:43] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [04:43] for all the packages though right? [04:44] no ... just once in the extracted source directory [04:44] ah ok for firefox [04:55] does it build? [04:55] gnomefreak: ^^ === asac should setup a 32bit chroot [04:58] dont know still getting the 64bit named packages from update when thats done ill build it [04:59] asac: if i get building ff comfortable i can build the 32bit. respinning should be no issue at all [04:59] lol i cant update ill begin rebuilding them now [05:00] you probably shouldn't be able to upgrade [05:00] either you install is 32 or 64 bit [05:00] 64bit name stopped me from upgrading them [05:01] gnomefreak: i would be fine if you can contribute i386 builds for preview packages ... you have a place where you can put them up temporarily, so I can sync them to my people.ubuntu.com directory from there? [05:02] i should have a place but it will be downloadable not repo type [05:03] thats no problem ... i will sync them to my place so we have one place for all ... there I can generate repo files [05:03] k === gnomefreak feels stupid now :( i forgot to apt-get update after adding src repo [05:13] does it work well? [05:13] havent ran it yet [05:13] grabbing build-deps and source for firefox atm [05:14] ah ok :) now I remember that your connection is on the low end :) [05:14] yep :( [05:15] about 23 minutes left for the source [05:15] just to be sure everything is right: [05:15] does it pull the source from my repo? [05:16] yep [05:16] fine [05:16] then its just a matter of time. Maybe I will manage to setup a system soon where you all can log in and build ... with some more decent bandwidth :) === gnomefreak gonna build firefox first than ill go with -dbg and so on [05:17] :) [05:17] no [05:17] as i said [05:17] there is just one source tree [05:17] if you build from there [05:17] everything will be build [05:17] ohhh [05:17] sweet [05:17] you end up with a firefox-xxxx/ directory [05:17] running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [05:17] produces all packages defined in debian/control [05:17] ah [05:18] thats easy enough :) [05:18] you will even end up with transitional packages that i didn't upload [05:18] oh damn [05:18] e.g. mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-dom-inspector et al [05:18] those are no problem [05:18] as they are pretty small [05:19] a problem? [05:19] ah ok [05:19] not a bit [05:19] asac: when im done let me know what you want uploaded and ill upload them to a firefox dir on the server so you can grab them [05:19] yep [05:20] we need all (non transitional) debs produced ... but not the orig.tar.gz nor the .dsc file [05:20] nor the diff.gz and .changes [05:21] k [05:22] the easiest way to ensure that you don't miss a package is to setup dput or dupload [05:22] but maybe later :) [05:23] :) [05:44] its building but i didnt use -k so i might have to redo it [05:47] yeah if you want to sign the result then yes [05:48] would be ok to just sign the .changes manually afterwards so I can at least do some basic verification [05:48] whats your id? [05:48] ah ... lp [05:49] 3C1C3C2A [05:49] key id [05:50] yep already have it === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-220-224.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [06:05] good morning all [06:05] morning [06:06] this is taking longer than i thought. but its all good :) [06:06] what are you working on;) [06:06] 32bit firefox packages :) [06:06] just repackaging them for 32bit [06:07] nice are you packaging them from scratch from mozilla tarball? [06:07] from 64bit builds from asac [06:07] is there a bzr branch were you are doing this work? [06:08] no not yet [06:08] i was trying to test the builds but they wouldnt install due to being 64bit [06:08] dfarning: me? [06:09] you ;) [06:09] would it be much work to set up a bzr branch? [06:09] yep from scratch :) [06:09] i have a git archive now ... but more to organize patches than to keep a histroy atm [06:09] actually I like some features and still had not time how to properly do it in bzr [06:09] while i was asking gnomefreak but if you have something that would be great === gnomefreak doesnt know bzr all that well. it took me 3 days to set up my blog for planet [06:10] dfarning: you know bzr a bit? [06:10] crikey i'm still trying to get IRC to work;) [06:11] I have played with it bit [06:12] I could set up something up and put up a short wiki page on how to use it. [06:12] or just link a good tutorial :) there are plenty I gues [06:12] It may be crude but it will work [06:13] ok Will work on this later today [06:13] asac, did you get the mail from Martin about bug-report? [06:14] it is really useful [06:14] dfarning: let me play a bit with bzr first [06:14] yes I got ... what does it do? [06:15] basically, we can write some hooks for individual programs so that wecan have specific information automatically reported to us. [06:16] sounds interesting [06:16] can one extend command-line arguments of bug-report too? [06:16] the hooks can take care of frequently asked question such as flash version [06:17] I don't thinks so yet [06:17] so we can run arbitrary scripts? [06:17] but we can write a number of scripts and have them include in the apport package [06:17] it will take some planning ahead [06:18] will those hooks work on poth ... crash report as well as menu link? [06:18] s/poth/both/ [06:18] yes [06:18] ... we cannot install extension scripts from our packages? [06:19] e.g. ship the scripts on our own? [06:19] We will have to look [06:19] currently the hooks are stored in //usr/bin/apport/package-hooks [06:20] that is a good idea === gnomefreak pretends to know what is going on ;) [06:21] each package _should_ install its own hook rather than have apport worry about it [06:21] yes, i think if this is not yet done, it will be soon. [06:21] gnomefreak, I'll post some sample hooks and their results this afternoon on the wiki [06:21] does bug-report include any information on its own (e.g. like package version, distribution, etc.)? [06:22] dfarning: ty [06:22] at this point no but that would be easy to implemt as it is already part of crash report [06:24] I'll file some feature requests and send you the links [06:24] gnomefreak: build still running? [06:24] yep === gnomefreak thought p4 would make it short but i guess theres alot to build [06:25] if you have enough memory it might not be that bad. [06:26] 256 :( [06:26] I have posted a clue file that reflects the current /states page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Bughelper/ClueFile [06:27] some sort of differnet ram than normal so its too much money to spend on this pc === asac reading [06:27] dfarning: so do we want to prefix? [06:27] that would the match even more unique [06:27] like [06:28] mt:needtester [06:28] ? [06:28] Yes, I think that would be good to reduce confussion [06:29] now to create namespace? ... colon, dash, slash ?? [06:30] yikes I hate naming [06:31] are their any tools where a colon in the sting will cause them to barf? [06:31] s/sting/string [06:35] offtopic: AlexLatchford has done already done two months of good work with us. Should we encourage him to apply for ubuntu membership next month? [06:36] good bug work and really good wiki work [06:36] i think so ... but lets him decide if he feels ready :) [06:37] yes i think we should === gnomefreak will look more into his Lp and wiki and see if he needs to point to more things [06:39] ok sounds good i'll email him know that we are behind him if he is ready to apply; [06:40] :) [06:40] I'll be off line for the next several hours. hope to have some hooks ready to go [06:41] bye [06:41] great ... i will be away for 2 hours or so from now === gnomefreak will be in and out and i will upload the builds when its done and post link in here [06:54] gnomefreak: ty [06:54] yw === asac is now temporarily away === gnomefreak away for a bit while this is building. === dfarning_ [n=dfarning@69-179-12-232.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:13] built and being uploaded atm [08:20] New wiki summarizing how we are you bughelper at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Bughelper [08:20] s/you/using/ [08:20] ty [08:21] gnomefreak, next is the apport stuff espically for you;) [08:21] :) ty [08:33] asac: all you need uploaded is firefox ff-dom-inspector -dbg -dev -gnome-support libnspr libnspr-dev libnss libnss-dev (all .debs of those packages) you dont need changes, source, dsc or diff [08:34] and you dont need the mozilla-* packages? [09:01] uploaded all just in case should be done in an hour or so. not uploading source since its already uploaded unless you need it just let me know [09:31] Meh? [09:32] AlexLatchford: how about going up for membership next CC meeting? [09:33] maybe in a few months [09:33] think I need to build up a bit more Karma before I try [09:33] no your ok on that [09:34] nah I have only been involved for a few months also [09:34] feel like I should contribute a bit more [09:34] if you document what youve done and what your plans to learn to do or do on your wiki you will be fine :) [09:34] asac: ok built almost done uploaded and im gonna test it now [09:35] bad news: it kills your icon :( [09:36] its not letting me set one either [09:42] ok cant use the firefox icon mozilla-firefox.xpm but seem to beablet o use .png icons in pixmaps [09:48] looks like icon was left out of build [09:57] asac: ok here is the link it should be fully complete in about 28-30 minutes from now. http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/FireFox/ but looks like we are gonna have to rebuild after icon is included (or fixed) other than that testing is going well. === gnomefreak goes away for an hour or 2 [10:51] gnomefreak: but only in the menu, right? can you please try to cp /usr/share/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png as well as to /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png helps? [10:57] asac: menu and launcher [10:57] tried? [10:58] where am i getting them from? [10:58] /usr/share/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png [10:58] that should exist [10:58] the other two should exist too [10:58] ah ok [10:58] so just copy it over for now ... I create links in package [10:59] actually /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png should already be a link to nowhere [10:59] so maybe remove it [11:00] that works [11:00] still cant expect users to have to do that? [11:02] they don't need to [11:02] i update package to link it [11:02] please try: [11:02] rm those new files [11:02] again [11:02] and link: [11:03] ln -s /usr/share/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png /usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png [11:03] ln -s /usr/share/firefox/icons/mozicon128.png /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-firefox.png [11:04] works also [11:06] fine [11:06] then it will be fixed i guess [11:07] can it be fixed without having to rebuild it? [11:07] gnomefreak: do you find a place where something is not called "Mozilla Firefox" .. .e.g. like BonEcho [11:07] ? [11:08] nope its called mozilla-firefox everywhere that i can tell [11:08] without the - [11:09] great [11:09] aehm [11:09] one more thing [11:09] wait a sec [11:09] if you reset your homepage to default [11:09] is the homepage in place? [11:09] or not found? [11:10] it works it brings up file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html [11:10] in my chroot it appears to not exit [11:10] does it exist for you? [11:10] but its Edgys page :( [11:10] maybe not yet been updated? [11:10] guess not [11:10] but it exists in feisty for you? [11:10] then its fine [11:10] yes === gnomefreak likes the get help online feature [11:12] i dont remember seeing that befor [11:12] e [11:12] what happens if you use it? [11:12] at least we should remove the translate entry [11:12] its of no use atm [11:12] brings me to LP [11:13] yeah [11:13] unknown page [11:13] quite a mess [11:13] yeah the translate doesnt seem to work [11:13] maybe we should drop it for now [11:13] Admiral_Chicago: can you take a look at the membership page and tweak it to suit the new membership requirements? [11:13] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Membership [11:13] mozilla already asked us to better work together with them if we want to translate [11:13] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+sources/firefox/+gethelp that is where the get help online brings me [11:14] and not to do it on our own [11:14] makes sense imo [11:14] i agree if they are willing to help us [11:14] there are already a good bunch of translations available [11:14] they all come from them [11:14] cool [11:14] if we want a new, we can help them? [11:15] look at source firefox-locales [11:15] or thunderbird-locales [11:15] the translations are already maintained under their patronage [11:16] i agree to work with them for translations/locales (does that mean i need to send locale issues upstream?) [11:16] depends of what kind [11:17] po files we maintain ... but there shouldn't be any necessary for us in the long run [11:17] maybe thunderbird sill has a debconf template ... firefox not [11:17] mostly people ask us to add new .xpi ... because they exist upstream [11:17] quite similar to the request about the lt.xpi [11:18] you remember? [11:18] yes [11:20] it doesnt seem we have any lang packs installed [11:20] i cant change the language the page displays in [11:20] oh i have a crash report too :) [11:21] i mean :( [11:23]