[12:01] <shatrat> harisund, the liveCD installer can resize NTFS, make sure to defrag first.
[12:01] <Chicory> Hmm ...
[12:01] <hairulfr> harisund: Partition Magic is real good... But not free though
[12:01] <Chicory> Frog:  So far I don't have ANYTHING interesting installed.
[12:01] <Chicory> I run Beryl and Firefox, that's about it.
[12:01] <MystaMax> harisund, or you can use the gparted liveCD
[12:01] <harisund> shatrat, yes, it's completely defragged. So the LiveCD can be used.. so what do I need to do ?
[12:01] <juano__> hello qeed, i used dvd author from win and it worked :) , i can see the movie in DVD player ok
[12:01] <Chicory> Chatzilla as a Firefox extension.
[12:01] <harisund> MystaMax: gParted would work? Ok .. will give it a try ..
[12:01] <qeed> juano__, great
[12:01] <juano__> qeed: would you give me the line to convert from avi to mpg in ffmpeg ?
[12:01] <harisund> thanks shatrat and MystaMax .... I will give it a try
[12:02] <juano__> qeed: thanks a lot btw, ive been wanting to do this some time ago
[12:02] <frogzoo> harisund: resizing ntfs doesn't work well atm - you do best to d/l a recent (0.3) version of gparted & save it to usb, boot a live cd & run gparted from the usb - gparted for 0.1 is bugged for ntfs
[12:02] <MystaMax> harisund, gparted is also on the ubuntu install cd
[12:02] <Chicory> Ah, here we go.
[12:02] <Chicory> drwxr-xr-x 48 yamathan yamathan 4096 2007-02-13 16:56 /home/yamathan
[12:02] <juano__> qeed: cause i forgot the line , i didnt write it down
[12:02] <DarkSun88> Hi
[12:03] <qeed> juano__, ffmpeg -i <input_file> -target pal-dvd or ntsc-dvd -ab 192 <outfile>
[12:03] <sroske> I've managed to get the desktop by the gnome safety, it visually looks alright.
[12:03] <juano__> qeed: great, thanks a lot :) i need it again for other videos
[12:03] <dyrne> grodius: take a look at the first line in the file.  you can use head filename.bin to give you an idea how to run. might be like #!/bin/bash  then youd just do bash filename.bin.  also the fommand "file filename.bin"
[12:03] <juano__> qeed: and also so i have it here for future events
[12:04] <qeed> :)
[12:04] <cikas> do i have to install kde that kdetv to run?
[12:04] <Chicory> Oh, good, I don't.
[12:04] <frogzoo> Chicory: this is edgy?
[12:04] <Chicory> Yep.
[12:04] <cikas> i followed all the steps from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935 and nothing(in xp tvtuner is running)
[12:04] <Chicory> 6.10, running Beryl on XGL with an fglrx driver.
[12:05] <gpd> I keep getting Grub Error 21 when installing from the Edgy Server CD - could there be a bug?  I don't see any BIOS issues
[12:05] <arrenlex> I want to set up my stylus to right-click when I press the button, and\or when I press-and-hold. It's a tablet PC. Can anyone help me do this?
[12:05] <barbarella> cikas:why kdetv, and not tvtime?
[12:05] <cikas> because after i install them same pb no signal
[12:05] <frogzoo> gpd: if you have multiple hdds, yes there's a bug - grub looks at the wrong hdd when installing
[12:05] <cikas> and i have on the same pc a hard with xp installed and tvtuner is working
[12:06] <cikas> in linux is not
[12:06] <frogzoo> Chicory: this yamathan, that is the default account?
[12:06] <barbarella> cikas:have you got tv with xawtv?
[12:06] <cikas> yes
[12:06] <Chicory> Yep.
[12:06] <cikas> same
[12:06] <gpd> frogzoo: can I just unplug? or do i have to reinstall with unplugged?
[12:06] <Chicory> That's the default account.
[12:06] <grodius> dyrne, its a 'Bourne shell script text executible'
[12:06] <barbarella> cikas:so you have to do a first scan with tvtime
[12:06] <grodius> dyrne, what should I do to extract it
[12:07] <Firebird8> hello
[12:07] <cikas> how do i do that?
[12:07] <frogzoo> gpd: no, you have to fix /boot/grub/menu.lst & set correctly kopt & groot params
[12:07] <dyrne> grodius: bash filename.bin should work then.  you can open it in a text editor if unsure and just look at the first line
[12:07] <Trixsey> Can I get GAIM 1.5.0 from some repo?
[12:08] <cikas> barbarella
[12:08] <cikas> ?
[12:08] <cikas> barbarella:how do i do that?
[12:08] <frogzoo> Chicory: any problems with 'ldd `which finger`'   ?
[12:08] <grodius> dyrne, ok cool thanks
[12:08] <dyrne> grodius: also if you just dont really care and want to run it. chmod +x filename.bin then ./filename.bin.  or from inside gnome you can right click i think and in properties make it executable
[12:09] <pbureau> Trixsey,  only available @ http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[12:09] <cikas> barbarella:i have a first scan from channel management and nothing
[12:10] <jellobean> I created a ubuntu live CD that works on one of my computers, but gives error message "can't access tty; job control turned off"
[12:10] <jellobean> on my other computer
[12:10] <barbarella> cikas:a sec
[12:10] <cikas> ok
[12:10] <fiberchunks> jellobean, what kind of motherboard in that computer?
[12:11] <jellobean> fiberchunks_ intel dg965wh
[12:11] <Chicory> frogzoo: Nope.
[12:11] <Chicory> Oh, wait, be right back.
[12:11] <Fraj> Hi
[12:11] <frogzoo> jellobean: try passing the option 'acpi=off'  from the grub - hit F6 to get there
[12:11] <Fraj> can someone tell me how to uninstall ubuntu please?
[12:11] <fiberchunks> jellobean, probably the same problem that I have -- the lack of either pata_marvell, or pata_jmicron drivers being loaded
[12:11] <Trixsey> svn is not found it says
[12:11] <Trixsey> the command
[12:11] <Trixsey> how do I get svn?
[12:11] <dyrne> !mbr | Fraj
[12:11] <ubotu> Fraj: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:11] <Trixsey> :/
[12:11] <Gurpartap> how to know process id?
[12:12] <jellobean> fiberchunkssweet let me give it a shot
[12:12] <Fraj> dyrne i want to uninstall ubuntu not install it!
[12:12] <arrenlex> I want to set up my stylus to right-click when I press the button, and\or when I press-and-hold. It's a tablet PC. Can anyone help me do this?
[12:12] <barbarella> cikas:try tvtime-scanner
[12:12] <pbureau> Trixsey, why get the svn version just get the tarball
[12:12] <Fraj> any ideas?
[12:13] <cikas> i tried
[12:13] <cikas> and nothing
[12:13] <assasukasse> hi is there anyone using exfalso? i have a problem with musicbrainz
[12:13] <Trixsey> pbureau, how do I update my repo install then?
[12:13] <barbarella> cikas:and nothing
[12:13] <Gurpartap> how to know process id? need to kill firefox :P
[12:13] <cikas> i was witing.......
[12:13] <dyrne> Fraj: there is no need really. just overright the boot manager with windows default (assuming you want windows). then in windows you can format the other partition and put watever you want on it
[12:13] <linxeh> Gurpartap: ps -ef | grep firefox
[12:13] <pbureau> Trixsey, listencarefully 1.50 is NOT on a repository yet you need to download the tarball and compile ioty
[12:13] <pbureau> Trixsey,  only available @ http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[12:13] <cikas> waiting for 10 min and same no signal
[12:13] <Gurpartap> thanks linxeh
[12:13] <kitche> Gurpartap: just do killall firefox-bin if you don't know the pid
[12:13] <barbarella> cikas:and witing or waiting
[12:13] <dyrne> Fraj: i think its fdisk /mbr or something like that to put windows as boot manager again
[12:13] <cikas> waiting
[12:13] <Gurpartap> okay
[12:14] <dyrne> Fraj: that is a windows command btw
[12:14] <barbarella> what does dmesg say?
[12:14] <Trixsey> pbureau, yeah but I want it to be LIKE the repos.. the friggin icon.. that "gaim &" works in console etc
[12:14] <Trixsey> I listen, you just dont listen :p
[12:14] <barbarella> cikas:about you tv card
[12:14] <Fraj> oh
[12:14] <Fraj> right
[12:14] <sroske> Is there a way to fix "unable to locate RDSP"? my mobo is unnamed, guess I should'a written that down
[12:14] <Fraj> so do i just need to follow the instructions on the link u gave me earlier?
[12:15] <cikas> bt878
[12:15] <pbureau> Trixsey, I am not sure what your asking you need an icon on your desktop...?? it creates it when you compile it
[12:15] <sroske> I can get to the gnome safety mode, is there an ap that can tell me the mobo?
[12:15] <dyrne> Fraj: well i dont know if it would be on that link. maybe better off googleing for windows mbr recover or something.
[12:15] <frogzoo> sroske: lshw probly your best bet
[12:15] <cikas> i followed the steps from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935
[12:16] <CupCakeMaster> ive tried everything but i keep  getting errors when installing wine any help
[12:16] <dyrne> Fraj: can i ask why youre switching back?
[12:16] <Trixsey> pbureau, I'll only do "make" then "make install"?
[12:16] <sroske> frogzoo: thx
[12:16] <frogzoo> CupCakeMaster: you on edgy?
[12:16] <CupCakeMaster> yes
[12:16] <frogzoo> sroske: yw
[12:16] <linxeh> cikas: you either did something wrong, or something was missing, or maybe your bt8x8 chip doesnt have a suitable tuner connected to it. dmesg should tell you about what tuner it has. I had bt8x8 cards working in linux around 6-7 years ago, so I know it is possible
[12:16] <htaccess> is ~/.bash_profile being referenced in ubuntu, i added keychain stuff to it and it doesnt seem to be being used?
[12:16] <sroske> once I have the mobo info, what do I do with it to fix the RDSP problem
[12:16] <Fraj> dyrne there is something wrong iwth the gfx on the new ubnutu screen keeps flickering everytime u scroll down adn it gets goddamn annoying
[12:16] <pbureau> Trixsey,  well README tell you, but ./Configure, make make install
[12:17] <frogzoo> CupCakeMaster: you using the budgetdedicated repos?
[12:17] <barbarella> cikas:cable?
[12:17] <cikas> yes
[12:17] <Fraj> well at the moment im clueless on how to switch back, iv tried placing a windows botoable cd inb ut itwont even boot from it!
[12:17] <cikas> cable
[12:17] <pbureau> Trixsey, and if you have errors it doesnt install properly.
[12:17] <CupCakeMaster> the what?
[12:17] <pbureau> Fraj, load gparted, kill all partitions, shutdown, reboot on windows cd it will work
[12:18] <axis1> hello.. how can i find driver for my canon i965 printer??
[12:18] <frogzoo> !wine | CupCakeMaster
[12:18] <ubotu> CupCakeMaster: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:18] <Fraj> im in gparted now but the main partition has a lock on it
[12:18] <Fraj> how do i get rid of the lock?
[12:18] <Fraj> it wont let me delete it
[12:18] <Trixsey> pbureau, and it'll work in console too?
[12:18] <jellobean> fiberchunks, tried acpi=off i still the same error
[12:18] <dyrne> Fraj: use the livecd for gparted or ubuntu
[12:18] <CupCakeMaster> i get this error "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\run.exe": Module not found
[12:18] <CupCakeMaster> "
[12:18] <Fraj> what live cd?
[12:19] <Trixsey> pbureau, I need to uninstall current gaim? or will it overwrite?
[12:19] <frogzoo> Fraj: you can't run gparted against the / partition - you need to boot from a live cd
[12:19] <linxeh> CupCakeMaster: what did you try and run ?
[12:19] <Jeepster> hi everyone
[12:19] <pbureau> Trixsey, it will overite
[12:19] <Fraj> where can ig et a live cd from?
[12:19] <michaelpo>  why in synaptics, some packages has the ubuntu logo in the 2nd column, some does not?
[12:19] <Trixsey> great
[12:19] <CupCakeMaster> nothing becuase i keep getting that
[12:19] <frogzoo> Fraj: you can boot the edgy cd
[12:19] <linxeh> CupCakeMaster: doinng what ?
[12:19] <posingaspopular> Fraj: any ubuntu/kubuntu/edubuntu cd
[12:19] <posingaspopular> will double as a live cd
[12:19] <tim167> ________________________________________________________    ??  how do i repair a broken ubuntu installation ??                _________________   thanks
[12:19] <Fraj> oh right
[12:19] <Fraj> ok
[12:19] <linxeh> CupCakeMaster:  you must have typed something to make it do that
[12:19] <linxeh> tim167: lame
[12:20] <pbureau> Trixsey, instruction say be root... so su/password then ./configure, make, make install
[12:20] <dyrne> michaelpo: maybe those are ones in main or universe?
[12:20] <mecfs4_> michaelpo>this means that it is supported by Ubuntu
[12:20] <CupCakeMaster> during the instalation
[12:20] <barbarella> cikas:i just started a pc with the same chip...scanning now
[12:20] <Jeruvy> tim167: run repair
[12:20] <frogzoo> michaelpo: ubuntu recommended
[12:20] <CupCakeMaster> i got that
[12:20] <linxeh> CupCakeMaster: what did you type???
[12:20] <Err_> i just tried updating my nvidia drivers to beta like it says in the guide, and now when ubuntu starts up it goes straight to dos, i get no graphical desktop
[12:20] <Trixsey> ohhh.. it worked as non-root tho :o
[12:20] <CupCakeMaster> !wine
[12:20] <tim167> Jeruvy from grub ?
[12:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:20] <Trixsey> su and sudo are equvalent?
[12:20] <shatrat> Err_, there is no dos. its the shell.
[12:20] <Jeruvy> tim167: from the livecd on boot
[12:20] <linxeh> Trixsey: similar
[12:20] <gpd> frogzoo: looking at /boot/grub/menu.lst and it seems sane - my root is /dev/sda2 and groot is hd1,1 - not sure what to fix?
[12:20] <jellobean> fiberchunks, I tried acpi=off i still get the same error
[12:20] <pbureau> Trixsey, cat INSTALL
[12:20] <technomancy> why, oh why do your drivers suck so much?
[12:20] <mojo> tim167: ________you______Start____by___fixing____your_____stuck_____key______on________your__ke_y____b___o_______a___r___d___________
[12:20] <frogzoo> tim167: please don't spam, kthx
[12:20] <shatrat> Err_, what guide are you using to install the 9746 drivers?
[12:20] <mecfs4_> su is super user and sudo is super user done once
[12:20] <cikas> how do u do that
[12:20] <MrPrise> hello
[12:21] <linxeh> CupCakeMaster: what did you type to install it....
[12:21] <tim167> Jeruvy, does it have to be exactly the same version as the one installed ?
[12:21] <frogzoo> gpd: reconcile with /boot/grub/device.map
[12:21] <michaelpo> thanks... i gtg get ready for work in 20 mins... thanks...
[12:21] <kmu> ubuntu is locking up during boot. even safe mode fails. they both die with udev-event[2749] : run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit. i know what software needs to be reinstalled, but how can i get a command prompt?
[12:21] <cikas> how do u do that?
[12:21] <linxeh> cikas: do what ?
[12:21] <tim167> mojo: lol, ok message received
[12:21] <cikas> barrabela:how do u do that?
[12:21] <frogzoo> gpd: also, is this a huge hdd ?
[12:21] <fiberchunks> jellobean, the problem, from what I've read on the forums about this, is that there is a kernel module not being loaded by the installer (either pata_marvell, or pata_jmicron), and thus, once the boot process starts, the cdrom is failed to be recognized
[12:21] <grodius> is the new ubuntu version stable
[12:22] <dyrne> Err_: sudo sed -i 's/nvidia/vesa' /etc/X11/xorg.conf    then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  if that doesnt work do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then the gdm restart again.  use the generic vesa driver
[12:22] <Err_> shatrat: ubuntuguide.org
[12:22] <MrPrise> I have a FSC Amilo K7610 notebook. What driver I should use with that to get better performance in x? I use the vesa driver now
[12:22] <barbarella> cikas:with tvtime-scanner
[12:22] <shatrat> grodius, fiesty is definitely not.
[12:22] <Josh___> hey, i just upgraded to ubuntu 64 bit and the livecd worked fine, so i installed it to a partition and it boots until the loading bar, but then freezes, any help?
[12:22] <grodius> shatrat, k
[12:22] <cikas> barbarela:how do u do that?
[12:22] <cikas> in a terminal?
[12:22] <posingaspopular> feisty? ive heard both stable and unstable
[12:22] <joe-cot> hey, how do i tell whether the kernel was built with gcc 4.0 or 3.4 ?
[12:22] <pjz_> joe_: no, the stable versino of ubuntu is stable.
[12:22] <barbarella> cikas:have you got tvtime installed?
[12:22] <suzylee> what does running "sudo pppoeconf" do?
[12:22] <pjz_> edgy is stable, feisty is in testing
[12:22] <cikas> yes
[12:22] <jellobean> fiberchunks, when i add the option to the grub do i just add it to the end of the line that is already there?
[12:22] <barbarella> cikas:yes...in terminal
[12:22] <shatrat> Err_, not familiar with that one.  I recommend the driver section from this guide.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[12:22] <cikas> i ve got tvtime
[12:22] <posingaspopular> suzylee: it configures your ppoe
[12:22] <mojo> Josh___: can you alt-F1 to get to a text vt?  have yo tried Recovery mode? does that work?
[12:22] <pjz_> suzylee: try to run your ppp-over-ethernet configuration script
[12:22] <Trixsey> anyone here use feisty?
[12:22] <Trixsey> if so, how stable is it?
[12:23] <frogzoo> feisty is alpha - it's fun to play with but not stable
[12:23] <shatrat> Trixsey, ubuntu+1 is the channel for feisty
[12:23] <cikas> let me see and i say to u
[12:23] <posingaspopular> the uh network protocol
[12:23] <barbarella> cikas:ok
[12:23] <posingaspopular> from superuser
[12:23] <joe-cot> Trixsey: i am right now. Updating to it hosed my system. the herd 3 gives crash reports on start up :)
[12:23] <dyrne> Trixsey: im not having any problems really in feisty but yeah i wouldnt recommend it yet
[12:23] <suzylee> pjz_: will that command help me to connect my eterhnet adsl modem to my exchange?
[12:23] <shatrat> Err_, are you using a different driver now, or  on a different computer or something?
[12:23] <gpd> frogzoo: sda is said to be hd1 in devices.map -- still no obvious problem?
[12:23] <Josh___> mojo: well i have and i can get into text mode, but i am a total linux noob, right now im in windows
[12:23] <JimBeam> help: can someone tell me what i have to do if i changed the network adapter in my ubuntu server 6.10 ?
[12:23] <suzylee> is there any person here using Edgy and Optusnet?
[12:23] <dyrne> Trixsey: its mostly just if you want to help out an report bugs or to play around
[12:24] <Err_> shatrat: i'm on a diff comp
[12:24] <gpd> frogzoo: did update-grub and now rebooting to check
[12:24] <graft_> hey - is there any discussion of why sudo tickets aren't a security risk over su?
[12:24] <pjz_> suzylee: no idea, I know nothing about ethernet adsl
[12:24] <gpd> frogzoo: will the desktop or alternative CD's have this problem?
[12:24] <gpd> frogzoo: or should I just detach all other drives and reinstall?
[12:24] <trainer_> I did some package upgrades and now my system won't get past an (initramfs) prompt at boot, I can't find anything on the forums about this, can someone help
[12:24] <Fraj> wts da smallest live cd i can download?
[12:25] <posingaspopular> Fraj: im assuming xubuntu
[12:25] <shatrat> Err_, I see.  well you can try finding out what went wrong with this driver install, or you can try installing using that method.  You can recover to a limited graphicsl environment by editing the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and in the Device section for your videocard changing the driver to "nv" from "nvidia"
[12:25] <jamillesantana> Hello there
[12:25] <Fraj> thnx
[12:25] <majortom> do i have to have fglrx to get s-video out working?
[12:25] <bcardarella> Does anyone know if the FeistyFawn server will include Apache2.2?
[12:25] <dyrne> Fraj: damn small linux id think
[12:25] <barbarella> JimBeam:did you change a network card?
[12:25] <suzylee> pjz_: why not?
[12:25] <JimBeam> barbarella: yes, i changed the hardware
[12:25] <majortom> Fraj, slax has a pretty good one too ~200mb
[12:25] <bcardarella> Or rather when the repository might upgrade to Apache2.2
[12:25] <mojo> posingaspopular: I would have said DSL ;)
[12:25] <matt1234> anyone have any ideas what might prevent firefox, Gaim, etc from working when i can ping the router?
[12:26] <frogzoo> gpd: is your grub partition > dunno, say 100meg?
[12:26] <gpd> frogzoo: no - not huge just SATA 200G drive
[12:26] <graft_> matt1234: does your router have WAN connectivity?
[12:26] <matt1234> graft, yea
[12:26] <Fraj> yeh ok ill get slax
[12:26] <graft_> matt1234: my guess is spite
[12:26] <Trixsey> yay it worked
[12:26] <dyrne> matt1234: 'dig google.com' or ping google.com might be a dns thing
[12:26] <mojo> matt1234: does your router have a configuration web page?  like mine is 192.168.1.1... can ffox bring that up?
[12:26] <matt1234> graft, its my brothers machine, but he told me the rest of the house can use the web
[12:26] <gpd> frogzoo: yes, grub partition is 200G ;)
[12:26] <barbarella> JimBeam:does the hardware show up, or have you internet connection?
[12:26] <axis1> i need a driver for ubuntu, to my printer canon i965
[12:26] <pjz_> suzylee: because I've never used it.
[12:26] <frogzoo> gpd: but how big's the parition holding grub?
[12:26] <Trixsey> I need SSL for new GAIM.. how do I get it? *blushes*
[12:27] <gpd> frogzoo: never had a problem with that before now -- just one large / and a swap at the start of the disk
[12:27] <posingaspopular> Josh___: wasup?
[12:27] <matt1234> mojo, didnt try that, but it can for a fact ping the router
[12:27] <frogzoo> gpd: hmmm... might be a problem maybe
[12:27] <Josh___> freezes when booting ubuntu X86
[12:27] <mojo> matt1234: also, i recently had problems after a kernel upgrade because of ipv6 making ffox take a loooooooooo...oooong time to resolve dns names and it would fail to connect to about anything.
[12:27] <graft_> matt1234: can you ping google?
[12:27] <Chicory> Hmm.
[12:27] <posingaspopular> what freezes
[12:27] <mojo> matt1234: have you tried nslookup to see how your name resolution is working?
[12:27] <graft_> i blacklisted ipv6
[12:27] <Chicory> Question:  Why does this DRI error appear spontaneously?
[12:27] <gpd> frogzoo: you said it was a bug - is that with the Server - or with Ubuntu installer in general?
[12:27] <sroske> barbarella: i have run lshw, the mobo is a 430TX - 82439TX MTXC from Intel
[12:27] <matt1234> nslookup exists on linux too eh? :)
[12:28] <Josh___> it loads the kernel but gets to a loading bar and just stops
[12:28] <JimBeam> barbarella: i dont get internet connection (should be obtained via dhcp, it worked well with the other network card) - i dont know where to look up the installed hardware :( i'm very new (24h) to linux :)
[12:28] <matt1234> i use it at work all the time, but never thought about it on linux
[12:28] <Chicory> I installed xserver-xorg-fglrx with no ill effects and no complaints that "XFree86-DRI" wasn't there --
[12:28] <Chicory> And now it is.  >: E
[12:28] <sroske> barbarella: is this helpful for fixing the RDSP problem?
[12:28] <dyrne> matt1234: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf   you should have a line like nameserver 192.168.1.1  or whatever
[12:28] <matt1234> graft, should my brother try to just ping "google.com" or the actual ip
[12:28] <barbarella> JimBeam:wireless?
[12:28] <mojo> matt1234: you have to try and narrow down where the problem lies... is it name resolution of here.there.com to an ip address that fails, or is it maybe a problem with all your ports being locked out (not so likely for port 80/http)... in other words it could be a firewall issue
[12:28] <posingaspopular> uh okay so you have ubuntu x86 on a cd, you try to install and it freezes and doesn't install?
[12:29] <graft_> matt1234: i mean, can you ping google.com from whatever machine ff isn't working on
[12:29] <Josh___> no
[12:29] <JimBeam> barbarella: nope, rj54
[12:29] <posingaspopular> hmm?
[12:29] <graft_> matt1234: or ping the IP, even
[12:29] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so the are all set to go.
[12:29] <mojo> matt1234: oh, so ping by name works.  that is promising
[12:29] <barbarella> JimBeam:rj45
[12:29] <Josh___> the livecd works, i installed it, but after rebooting it won't boot up
[12:29] <JimBeam> right :)
[12:29] <posingaspopular> ohhh okay
[12:29] <mojo> matt1234: what sort of error messages do you get?
[12:29] <posingaspopular> and you ont get any errors or anything like that?
[12:29] <matt1234> mojo, well, i dunno... he's eating dinner, so i'll try again in a minute
[12:29] <Josh___> nah
[12:29] <Josh___> just freezes
[12:29] <barbarella> JimBeam:what kind of nic you have got?
[12:29] <Trixsey> If I installed GAIM without SSL support, would I have to install SSL support and then re-compile gaim?
[12:29] <Trixsey> and what should I use for SSL?
[12:29] <JimBeam> barbarella: nic?
[12:29] <matt1234> mojo, he said Gaim wont connect, and firefox says "server not found"
[12:30] <posingaspopular> okay so where exactly does it freeze? on the page where you select users?
[12:30] <barbarella> JimBeam:network card
[12:30] <Josh___> no before then
[12:30] <posingaspopular> ohhh
[12:30] <posingaspopular> i know where it freezes now
[12:30] <Josh___> ok
[12:30] <frogzoo> gpd: I believe some bioses have a problem with large disks that can cause grub to fail
[12:30] <Josh___> any ideas?
[12:30] <posingaspopular> can you just reinstall? delete the partion, and install a new one
[12:30] <posingaspopular> thats what i did
[12:31] <matt1234> graft, ok, so i'll have my brother first ping google's ip, then google's domain name to figure out if its DNS or not.... if he can ping google's domain name, then what?
[12:31] <shatrat> Josh___, can you boot up in recovery mode?
[12:31] <Josh___> i'll try that
[12:31] <Josh___> yes
[12:31] <graft_> matt1234: then everything should work
[12:31] <JimBeam> barbarella: some cheap stuff, do i need to know the exact model?
[12:31] <matt1234> graft, haha, and if it doesnt?
[12:31] <Josh___> but i don't no what to do in recovery mode
[12:31] <JimBeam> barbarella: its from realtek
[12:31] <barbarella> JimBeam:what does lspci say in a terminal? Try to look for a network divice
[12:31] <graft_> matt1234: umm... we'll see then, but i'd be surprised
[12:31] <Josh___> soo i guess i'll reinstall it and come back here if it doesn;t work
[12:32] <posingaspopular> yea
[12:32] <graft_> matt1234: that means he can send ICMP packets but not TCP packets... unlikely situation
[12:32] <grodius> does anyone know where Java is installed by default (the one that is included with ubuntu)
[12:32] <posingaspopular> thats what i did when it didn't work
[12:32] <barbarella> JimBeam:rtlXXX?
[12:32] <matt1234> graft, yea, likewise.... embarrassed to say but i'm a network engineer, should be able to figure this out :)
[12:32] <posingaspopular> k good luck
[12:32] <JimBeam> barbarella: i will thry that, brb
[12:32] <Josh___> thx
[12:32] <barbarella> JimBeam:g-lan
[12:32] <posingaspopular> np let me know
[12:32] <Josh___> aight
[12:33] <webmaren> my GnuPG won't let me upgrade to feisty
[12:33] <matt1234> graft, you gona be here a while?
[12:33] <shatrat> Josh___, try this first
[12:33] <frogzoo> gpd: if you can reinstall without too much hassle, maybe make a 10gig -20gig / partition
[12:33] <graft_> matt1234: actually, wtf... if he can do DNS lookups, TCP has to be working
[12:33] <graft_> matt1234: um... define 'a while'
[12:33] <mojo> Josh___: there should be a log file somewhere like under /var/log that details what is going on as you boot up, but honestly i don't know what file to point you to.  If, while booting, you can get to the alt-f1 screen and see the text boot-up messages, it might give a clue as to wehere it starts.  another option is to press "e" on the menu line in grub, then remove the "splash" part of the command line before booting so you get a text only boot...  after editin
[12:33] <mojo> g, you press b to boot
[12:33] <shatrat> Josh___, press "e" at the grub screen to edit the entry for the normal ubuntu boot, and remove "quiet splash" from the end, then boot it
[12:34] <matt1234> graft, eh, 20 or 30 minutes
[12:34] <shatrat> Josh___, that should give you an idea where it hangs
[12:34] <grodius> can someone help me? Im trying to find the java default directory
[12:34] <linxeh> matt1234: I've had that problem before
[12:34] <graft_> matt1234: um, sure
[12:34] <mojo> Josh___: ^whereit STOPS, i mean ;)
[12:34] <IanLiu> Hi
[12:34] <posingaspopular> IanLiu: the room says hi back
[12:34] <shatrat> grodius, "locate java" "ls -l /usr/bin/java" "find java"
[12:34] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so they are all set to go.
[12:34] <matt1234> linxeh, what's that... being able to ping the router but not use the web/gaim?
[12:35] <linxeh> I can't remember how I solved it. I think it might have been to do with having two default routes for the same network, or because my host was using an IP that was no longer valid from my dhcp server, and the router knew this
[12:35] <graft_> matt1234: if he can only ping the router, might be he (for some reason) doesn't have the router as his gateway
[12:35] <JimBeam> barbarella: lspci lists the card as "RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+"
[12:35] <linxeh> matt1234: try route -n and see how many listed things for your default route
[12:35] <IanLiu> My Ubuntu internet connection is strange... It takes tooo long to establish the connection with the server, but when it does, the internet speed is normal. Any tips?
[12:36] <linxeh> IanLiu: probably a problem in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:36] <mojo> shatrat: thanks for being more specific for Josh___ ;)
[12:36] <IanLiu> what kind of problem? Can it be repaired?
[12:36] <frogzoo> !ipv6 | IanLiu
[12:36] <ubotu> IanLiu: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:36] <matt1234> whats the "search" line mean in /etc/resolve.conf ?
[12:36] <linxeh> or that :)
[12:36] <webmaren> !feisty
[12:36] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <kmu> i've messed up my install -- no complete boot. is there a way to get a prompt?
[12:36] <trippen> howdy im looking for a cpu temp monitor program that will work with ubuntu64 and a core 2 duo
[12:37] <linxeh> matt1234: it will try and look up hosts in that domain first. eg if you lookup www.google.com it will do www.google.com.some.search.domain first, then do www.google.com if it fails
[12:37] <IanLiu> thanks, going to take a look at the link
[12:37] <frogzoo> matt1234: man resolv.conf
[12:37] <linxeh> matt1234: its so that you can do http://www, and have it go to the www server for your organisation etc
[12:37] <matt1234> frogzoo, ah, nice, didnt realize there were man pages for .conf files :)
[12:37] <barbarella> JimBeam:look back at the this channel, sombody had the same problem, and it was solved.
[12:37] <dyrne> kmu: can you alt-ctrl-f2 to get a login? if not maybe from the grub screen hit e to edit an entry and add the line init=/bin/sh   then boot
[12:38] <trippen> howdy im looking for a cpu temp monitor program that will work with ubuntu64 and a core 2 duo
[12:38] <dsquare> how do i get more screensavers for ubuntu please?
[12:38] <th1> Hi, I am trying to make Sun's java package default java on my machine.. google yields a lot of different methods most of which seem to be outdated, what is the "correct" way to do it?
[12:38] <dsquare> how do i get more screensavers for ubuntu/
[12:38] <sroske> anybody solve an unable to locate RDSP problem lately?
[12:38] <dsquare> ?
[12:38] <JimBeam> barbarella: ok, thx
[12:38] <dyrne> kmu: you can also boot from livecd then look in the /media directory your parition will be there then just chroot /media/hda1  or whatever
[12:39] <hairulfr> dsquare: You can use Synaptic Package manager.Just search for screensavers
[12:39] <dsquare> hmm ok ty :)
[12:39] <hairulfr> dsquare: There are billions if you google
[12:39] <barbarella> JimBeam:ask shatrat and MurderousHobo
[12:40] <trippen> howdy im looking for a cpu temp monitor program that will work with ubuntu64 and a core 2 duo .. computer temperature moniter does not work .. and none of the gdesklets work please help
[12:40] <gpd> frogzoo: fixed -- from the boot cd grub menu i was able to see that sda2 was actually hd0!
[12:40] <th1> trippen, main thing is which motherboard you have.
[12:40] <trippen> th1 a gigabyte 965p s3
[12:40] <th1> what chipset is that?
[12:40] <barbarella> cikas:and?
[12:41] <trippen> 965p
[12:41] <dyrne> are we going to be using uuid from now on in grub and fstab? i noticed this in feisty
[12:41] <sroske> If I know what my mobo is can I fix the RDSP problem? How?
[12:41] <th1> try xsensors
[12:41] <dm> Anyone know of a way to get XFCE's ICONBOX port to Gnome panel ?
[12:41] <graft_> dyrne: i hope not... it's awful
[12:41] <trippen> xsensors doesnt even start up i click it and nothing happons
[12:41] <th1> trippen, if it works you can use any package that uses lm-sensors as a backend
[12:41] <barbarella> sroske:maybe?!
[12:41] <th1> trippen, have you looked at /etc/sensors.conf?
[12:41] <trippen> i dont know what that is
[12:42] <trippen> im a newb :)
[12:42] <Edso> Hey guys
[12:42] <sroske> babarella: thx, so what do I do with this knowledge?
[12:42] <IanLiu> Another question
[12:42] <Edso> Im a n00b to linux
[12:42] <IanLiu> When booting Ubuntu
[12:42] <Edso> i kind of want to get it
[12:42] <graft_> !ask | Edso
[12:42] <ubotu> Edso: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:43] <Edso> Can I download linux and switch between it and windows
[12:43] <sleepy723> How do I turn off timestamp in irssi (irssi is a ghosttown right now)
[12:43] <graft_> Edso: yep, it's called 'dual boot'
[12:43] <posingaspopular> Edso: of course, just partition the HD
[12:43] <Edso> ...
[12:43] <posingaspopular> ha
[12:43] <Edso> Explain
[12:43] <posingaspopular> want me to talk you through it?
[12:43] <Edso> you see
[12:43] <Edso> i dont have linux
[12:43] <Edso> i want it
[12:43] <trippen> th1 i opened /etc/sensors.conf but it has a ton of stuff in there i dont know what any of it is
[12:43] <Edso> Really bad
[12:43] <barbarella> sroske:so, im not a mind reader
[12:43] <agliv_> Greetings all :) I just upgraded to Licq 1.3.4 and it's not playing any of the sounds it should... can anyone help me fix this?
[12:43] <graft_> Edso: well, if windows is already installed, you can (hopefully) defrag and repartition your hard-drive, then install linux on the new partition
[12:44] <Edso> ...
[12:44] <Edso> can someone PM me
[12:44] <posingaspopular> Edso: you're on windows?
[12:44] <Edso> yes
[12:44] <posingaspopular> Edso: meet me on #flood
[12:44] <posingaspopular> its easier for me to help you there
[12:44] <IanLiu> When booting ubuntu, at the File System part, I get some error messages regarding to the FAT32 partition. I think is where Windows is. This message appears too: "Differences between boot sectors and backups", any tips to resolve this?
[12:44] <sroske> barbaralla: sorry, 430TX - 82439TX MTXC from Intel
[12:45] <dm> Im having  a little trouble with getting GNOME to be a bit faster ? any suggestions anyone
[12:45] <sroske> barbarella: that's what lshw gave me for PCI
[12:45] <th1> trippen, try "sudo sensors-detect"
[12:45] <barbarella> sroske:did you reset the bios to default?
[12:45] <shatrat> dm, gnome is pretty fast as ti is.  What hardware do you have?
[12:46] <sroske> barbarella: I'll do that now, to make sure. But I thought it was already
[12:46] <trippen> it says i need to have programs install how can i check to see if they are or are not installed
[12:46] <dm> dual core 1.66 1gig 667 mhz nvidia 7400go
[12:46] <linxeh> dm: gnome should fly on that
[12:46] <dm> shatrat ***dual core 1.66 1gig 667 mhz nvidia 7400go
[12:46] <barbarella> sroske:ok, we will wait
[12:46] <frogzoo> dm: upgrade to edgy
[12:46] <matt1234> graft, heh, i got him to test everything and it worked magically
[12:46] <dm> linxeh it does, but when it first loads it takes about 20 seconds
[12:46] <dm> frogzoo im running edgy
[12:47] <shatrat> dm, yeah you shouldnt have any problems, I suspect you dont have the drivers from nvidia installed?  please tell me what glxinfo | grep rendering   tells you, (yes or no)
[12:47] <matt1234> the only thing i got him to do that he normally wouldnt is Ctrl + alt + backspace and log back in
[12:47] <graft_> matt1234: yeah... most likely blip in the router
[12:47] <dm> linxeh right after GDM it takes a bit for some reason
[12:47] <dm> shatrat i have them installed correctly (thank you envy) i play WOW on it
[12:47] <matt1234> graft, old arp table or something?
[12:47] <linxeh> dm: hmm, mine flies - amd3500, nvidia gf 6600gt, 2gb
[12:47] <th1> sorry for asking again - I am trying to make Sun's java package to be default java on my machine.. but I am unsure what the right way to do it. Is there a dpkg-reconfigure java-selector or something or do I set up symlinks to the right java executables, or what?
[12:47] <graft_> matt1234: who knows... lots of house routers are pieces of crap, frankly
[12:47] <shatrat> dm, ah, it takes time to start you mean? Yeah sometimes its slow on mine as well, not sure why.  I dont reboot too often though.
[12:48] <IanLiu> What does the flag 'r' do in `dosfsck' ?
[12:48] <dyrne> dm: sounds more like somethings hanging at startup than a problem with speed in gnome
[12:48] <dm> linxeh when its running its fine, but on first load its kinda slow
[12:48] <linxeh> th: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:48] <matt1234> graft, yea, after working on cisco gear all day, i really hate the home boxes
[12:48] <graft_> matt1234: the only router i ever had that was worth a damn was my linux box + iptables
[12:48] <matt1234> haah
[12:48] <th1> linxeh, thank you very much
[12:48] <dm> dyrne aye, but i dont know what it is, beryl active or not its slower than it used to be
[12:48] <linxeh> th: then do the same for javac, javah, javap, jar etc
[12:48] <th1> ok! thanks
[12:48] <IanLiu> oh, see it
[12:48] <iKitchu> hello, I have an issue now where everytime I install a software, can be anything, it'll always tell me that it depends on a library but also tell me that the librabry will NOT be installed... and if i'm lucky enough to go further, I'll get this error message and will not get anything installed : E: inn2: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:48] <matt1234> graft, oh well, thanks for your help anyway
[12:48] <trippen> th1 can i msg you the results ?
[12:48] <sroske> barbarella: still get the same error. ACPI: unable to locate RDSP
[12:48] <DJ_Gentoo> problem with my Belkin NIC
[12:48] <dm> dyrne im prolly just being paranoid, i installed XFCE to play around and it FLEW even when boot up (after GDM )
[12:49] <th1> trippen, please paste it on pastebin.ca
[12:49] <DJ_Gentoo> the forums page is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2151897#post2151897
[12:49] <dyrne> dm: well im not too familiar with gnome. i dont really like it but even i have to admit its pretty snappy these days
[12:49] <matt1234> DJ_Gentoo, do you actually dj under that name?
[12:49] <trippen> paste it where ???
[12:49] <th1> on pastebin.ca
[12:49] <DJ_Gentoo> does it matter
[12:49] <trippen> how do i get to that
[12:49] <matt1234> yea, i'm a dj
[12:49] <th1> in firefox type pastebin.ca :)
[12:49] <graft_> iKitchu: try installing the library it says will NOT be installed
[12:49] <dm> dyrne too bad i cant use XFCE cus i think its primitive
[12:49] <mojo> sleepy723: did you get your answer?  /set timestamps off in irssi
[12:49] <zero88> Who can tell me the benefits of programming your own sockets???
[12:49] <humbolto> The kernel in edgy does not do the trick for me!
[12:49] <DJ_Gentoo> yeah
[12:49] <barbarella> sroske:does it start from the live cd?
[12:49] <humbolto> It has several issues I would like to overcome. So now I am wondering, if it is possible to compile the feisty kernel for/in edgy.
[12:49] <DJ_Gentoo> but that's not wh yI'm here
[12:49] <cafuego_> MattJ: He prolly plays 33rpm vinyl at 78rpm ;-)
[12:49] <DJ_Gentoo> hardly
[12:50] <dm> humbolto prolly dont want to do that anyway
[12:50] <IanLiu> applying `dosfsck -ar` to my Windows partition will lose data?
[12:50] <DJ_Gentoo> that sounds messed-up
[12:50] <graft_> iKitchu: you can usually figure out what the offending program is that's keeping things back - if you remove it with dpkg -r you can usually repair things
[12:50] <matt1234> haha, obviously your not here to talk about djing, relax man, just curious
[12:50] <dm> humbolto just use feisty, its a bit unstable but meh
[12:50] <humbolto> dm: yes I want
[12:50] <matt1234> what do you play?
[12:50] <sroske> barbarella: this machine doesn't have a dvd drive. I installed from a cd I burned off my XP box.
[12:50] <frogzoo> humbolto: certainly not supported
[12:50] <DJ_Gentoo> any event, I came here for a reason which has nothing to do with DJing
[12:50] <linxeh> iKitchu: : dpkg -P -a or something
[12:50] <trippen> th1 http://www.pastebin.ca/354454
[12:50] <dyrne> dm: the default theme is a little goofy but im really liking the new thunar file manager and once you move all the taskbars and make em smaller its not too bad
[12:50] <DJ_Gentoo> my WNIC works under 2.6.15, but stops under 2.6.17
[12:50] <matt1234> DJ_Gentoo, website, myspace something?
[12:50] <IanLiu> applying `dosfsck -ar` to my Windows partition will make it lose data??
[12:50] <DJ_Gentoo> the forum page is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2151897#post2151897
[12:50] <linxeh> humbolto: : reboot up into an old kernel then remove the packages with apt-get autoremove pkg, and apt-get clean
[12:51] <barbarella> sroske:so, is there no a live cd?
[12:51] <iKitchu> Well I don't see what you guys are talking about... the issue is with ANYTHING i want to install
[12:51] <DJ_Gentoo> as for myspace, I don't do that crap... it's an easy way to get stalked
[12:51] <humbolto> dm frogzoo: feisty is probably not just a little unstable.
[12:51] <barbarella> sroske:so, is there not a live cd?
[12:51] <kmu> dyrne: i got to a prompt with init=/bin/sh, but i could change a file (sources.list) should i be able to modify files in this mode?
[12:51] <graft_> iKitchu: specific examples?
[12:51] <matt1234> puss
[12:51] <linxeh> dm: I use xfce here on my laptop (similar spec to yours)
[12:51] <dm> dyrne its XFCE all together, things just dont work how i want them to, but i do like thunar, but i like my nautilus for its scripts and stuff that i have set
[12:51] <kmu> dyrne: could = could not
[12:51] <frogzoo> humbolto: feisty is alpha, nuf said
[12:51] <dyrne> kmu: it mounts it read only now that you have a shell do 'mount -o remount,rw /' i think should work
[12:51] <matt1234> oh well, just thought it was a cool dj name, would spread the name around a bit but since your an ass, nm
[12:51] <th1> ok trippen just say "yes" to have it set up the modules for you
[12:52] <dm> humbolto i've had no issues... in fact i find edgy a bit unstable as far as gnome-panel goes
[12:52] <sroske> barbarella: I have one that burned to a DVD. both are from the edubuntu website. I downloaded them and burned the ISOs
[12:52] <th1> then after that xsensors shoudl work
[12:52] <DJ_Gentoo> sooo... does anyone have any *helpful* advice?
[12:52] <graft_> DJ_Gentoo: um, what's the card?
[12:52] <sir_mud> what was your problem DJ_Gentoo
[12:52] <trippen> okay but it looks like the only thing it found was for my video card
[12:52] <DJ_Gentoo> F5D7010, Belkin
[12:52] <iKitchu> graft_ well just tell me to install anything from the synaptic and it'll return the same error... E: inn2: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1... and that's probably the same reason why those libraries won't get installed
[12:52] <dm> DJ_Gentoo about what
[12:52] <humbolto> dm: edgy does not power off my laptop for example
[12:52] <barbarella> sroske:cause you don't have a dvd drive, try the cd version!
[12:53] <dm> humbolto u mean feisty?
[12:53] <humbolto> dm: and I can't run the generic kernel
[12:53] <graft_> iKitchu: ah... do what linxeh suggested, dpkg -P -a
[12:53] <DJ_Gentoo> and Mud... I ignore people if they're being annoying, no matter what people care
[12:53] <humbolto> dm: no I mean edgy!
[12:53] <frogzoo> DJ_Gentoo: best bet might be wait til the mess with the latest kernel updates gets sorted out
[12:53] <humbolto> dm: feisty kernel works fine!
[12:53] <DJ_Gentoo> ah
[12:53] <humbolto> dm: I want it!
[12:53] <humbolto> dm: In edgy
[12:53] <DJ_Gentoo> wait... I had that prob on other distros
[12:53] <DJ_Gentoo> so it's not an Ubuntu-specific problem
[12:53] <barbarella> sroske:it is the only way to be sure it is not a hardware issue
[12:54] <dm> humbulto prolly a prob with the vid card driveer, i had that with breezy, reinstalled the vid card ( correctly ) and everything workd
[12:54] <trippen> th1 the xsernsors still does not load up when i try to start it
[12:54] <sroske> barbarella: I'll restart and check the install CD. It is the latest Edubuntu CD. Its rebooting now
[12:54] <barbarella> sroske:ok
[12:54] <th1> trippen, what about plain "sensors"
[12:54] <dm> humbolto what specs u running
[12:54] <humbolto> dm: hw?
[12:55] <Fraj> right
[12:55] <dm> humbolto hardware yes, specs
[12:55] <Fraj> can someone den tell me what do i do after i downloaded slax and gone itno the live cd?
[12:55] <Fraj> how do i delete the partition?
[12:55] <iKitchu> I just did dpkg -P -a, but I still get E: inn2: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:55] <kmu> how do i get access to my hard drive  when booting from the live cd?
[12:55] <DJ_Gentoo> Fraj, join #slax
[12:55] <graft_> iKitchu: dpkg -r inn2?
[12:55] <humbolto> intel centrino with nvida
[12:55] <Fraj> ok thanks
[12:55] <trippen> th1 http://www.pastebin.ca/354462
[12:55] <DJ_Gentoo> np
[12:55] <humbolto> dm: I filed a bug report
[12:56] <barbarella> kmu:man mount
[12:56] <th1> trippen check this: http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/lm-sensors/sensors-Gigabyte-965P-DS3.conf
[12:56] <Fraj> ermmm u lot told me to get a live cd and then format it and u told me to get slax and no ones in teh slax rooom anyway
[12:56] <dm> humbolto GJ :)
[12:56] <humbolto> dm: but this will not change anything, since it is a kernel issue, and it does not seem like they will backport anything new into edgy kernel
[12:56] <trippen> thats a different model but they are really really really really close so thanks ill give it a look
[12:56] <humbolto> dm: so I want to switch
[12:57] <dm> anyone know of an app to rip music from the ipod, banshee isnt seeing the pod
[12:57] <deville75> hello
[12:57] <trippen> its a conf file what should i do with it
[12:57] <dm> humbolto I dont think its a prob with the kernal
[12:57] <jk-> dm: gtkpod ?
[12:57] <deville75> I need help with Azureus
[12:57] <dm> hi deville75
[12:57] <humbolto> dm: just take amarok
[12:57] <deville75> I've downloaded and extracted Azureus
[12:57] <deville75> a torrent program
[12:57] <Fraj> anyone?
[12:57] <th1> trippen overwrite /etc/sensors.conf with that one
[12:57] <deville75> how do I launch the program?
[12:57] <iKitchu> oh my gosh!!!! succesfully applied all changes!!!! THANK YOU sOOO MUCH!
[12:57] <barbarella> deville75:to download ubunt ;-)
[12:57] <dm> humbolto eh, i hate amarok.
[12:57] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell deville75 about azureus | deville75, see the private message from ubotu.
[12:58] <deville75> ok
[12:58] <th1> and then also run "sudo sensors-detect" again and say yes to the last question "should I install xxx in modules for you"
[12:58] <sroske> barbarella: there is no live CD option on this disk choices are || install hard disk, install workstation, install command line, chekc CD, rescue, memory test, boot from first hard disk
[12:58] <humbolto> dm: yes it is a problem with acpi on my fucking vaio laptop - but ultimately they have to add a workaround in the kernel
[12:58] <dm> humbolto  too bloated and slow IMO
[12:58] <dm> humbolto watch the language
[12:58] <deville75> ubotu: thanks I'll check that out
[12:58] <Murmex> Oh cool, great idea to set this channel as default for XChat (Gnome)
[12:58] <humbolto> dm: I am so upset with this laptop!
[12:58] <humbolto> dm: sorry
[12:58] <sir_mud> humbolto: it's probably sony not releasing the specs nessecary, give it a little time and someone will figure it out
[12:58] <barbarella> sroske:server version?
[12:59] <iKitchu> humbolto what kind of laptop do you have?
[12:59] <jvai> question: is the only place i can get a wordlist for john the ripper is from the openwall site?
[12:59] <dm> humbolto i understand your frustration, a bug report will help the Ubuntu devs, for now i would say that its save to hit shutdown and wait for suffecient time and then shut it down
[12:59] <trippen> okay now what
[12:59] <gpd> can I use the mirrors.kernel.org in sources.list?  it is super fast for download
[12:59] <humbolto> vaio vng s560p - more than a year old already
[12:59] <DJ_Gentoo> soo... does anyone have any advice?
[12:59] <dm> humbolto I had the same problem at one time, beleive me, i know how upsetting it can be
[12:59] <kitche> jvai: you can get a wordlist from anywhere
[01:00] <barbarella> sroske:is it ok to reinstall, if data loss is not a issue?
[01:00] <iKitchu> humbolto are you able to ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:00] <sroske> barbarella: well now, I don't know, it was the default option off the website. I didn't look that deeply. the DVD ISO has a live component
[01:00] <sroske> barbarella: it is ok to reinstall,
[01:00] <jvai> kitche.. all the wordlists i've seen cost...
[01:00] <humbolto> dm: it helped already. but it helped in feisty. and feisty will not be released before april
[01:00] <dm> humbolto if you decide to reinstall your vid card, try "envy" its sooooooo nice
[01:00] <trippen> th1 i still have the issue here http://www.pastebin.ca/354462
[01:00] <sir_mud> i agree, humbolto, file a bug report with ubuntu, and give them all the info they want
[01:00] <humbolto> iKitchu: what should I kill my X for?
[01:00] <jvai> lol.. i need to find out how to make my own wordlist
[01:00] <sroske> barbarella: any special configurations to include you recommend?
[01:00] <dm> humbolto u can help with the testing for feisty and install it as your main OS, but dont be suprised if you update and its broken
[01:00] <DJ_Gentoo> my F5D7010 refuses to work on the latest kernel, and the thread is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2151897#post2151897 I get this problem on other distros
[01:01] <Fraj> so no one can help me den? anyone know how to delete a partition using slax?
[01:01] <jerb> !uuid
[01:01] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:01] <sir_mud> cfdisk?
[01:01] <sir_mud> Fraj
[01:01] <barbarella> sroske:http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:01] <jvai> i thought i could point john to open office's files, or the online dictionary.. but...
[01:01] <Fraj> yes
[01:01] <trainer_> How do I mount a hdd partition from the live cd?
[01:01] <dm> humbolto i dont use amarok, how would i rip my music from it to my HDD?
[01:01] <dyrne> trainer_: what format? ntfs? ext3?
[01:01] <sir_mud> is it a windows partition trainer_
[01:01] <barbarella> sroske:have you got a knoppix cd?
[01:01] <humbolto> sir_mud: I already filed a report and the problem is finally fixed in feisty.
[01:01] <frogzoo> humbolto: did you enable ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=true in /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[01:02] <trainer_> no a broken ubuntu
[01:02] <th1> trippen what kernel are you using?
[01:02] <sroske> I have a RIPlinux
[01:02] <Fraj> its an ubuntu partition
[01:02] <MTecknology> I have a system running Ubuntu 7.04. It's a Gateway M285-E. I am lost as far as getting the Fujitsu Finepoint stylus to work. I don't even know if it's being recognized, any help?
[01:02] <jellobean> I created a live Boot CD for ubuntu and it works in one of my computers, but not the other...i get the error message. "can't access tty; job control turned off" any ideas?
[01:02] <th1> trippen try this: "sudo sensors -s ; sudo sensors"
[01:02] <sir_mud> trainer_, mount /dev/hda1 if its the only partition
[01:02] <trippen> what ever the one thats isalled with the 64bit version of edgy..
[01:02] <DJ_Gentoo> here's my problem:
[01:02] <sroske> barbarella: won't help with the PII, can't boot to USB
[01:02] <kitche> MTecknology: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[01:02] <dyrne> trainer_: well the livecd should automount it under /media but if not do a sudo fdisk -l to find it then sudo mkdir /media/hda1;sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[01:02] <DJ_Gentoo> my F5D7010 refuses to work on the latest kernel, and the thread is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2151897#post2151897 I get this problem on other distros.
[01:02] <MoTown> ok, i'm experieicing slow browsing, i followed the WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 instructions and when I check to see if it's still running I get a response, why?
[01:02] <humbolto> frogzoo: what should that help?! This is some power saving stuff. Has nothing to do with a laptop shutting down the os but not powering off the damn hardware.
[01:03] <trippen> both of those commands give the same error
[01:03] <mparrish> Is ubuntu install still broken on the intel mac mini?
[01:03] <dm> humbolto lol .
[01:03] <barbarella> sroske:just get the live cd, if bandwith is not a problem.
[01:03] <gpd> looks like you can use mirrors.kernel.org!!! wwow.. that is fast
[01:03] <frogzoo> humbolto: that's an acpi function
[01:03] <kitche> MoTown: did you reboot after disabling ipv6?
[01:03] <trainer_> sir_mud, can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:03] <gpd> 6044kB/s 56s <--- HMG
[01:03] <humbolto> frogzoo: what is an acpi function?
[01:04] <sir_mud> ok, do cat /etc/fstab then and see what's there
[01:04] <humbolto> humbolto: why lol
[01:04] <frogzoo> humbolto: turning off the power at shutdown
[01:04] <MoTown> kitche: yes I restarted the computer, and then checked through the terminal
[01:04] <humbolto> frogzoo: I know that this is an acpi function! I mentioned the damn acpi for this damn laptop is broken earlier!
[01:04] <cikas> barbarella:in a terminal; same pb after scan....
[01:05] <LordUltimaDavid> !beryl
[01:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:05] <jellobean> I created a live Boot CD for ubuntu and it works in one of my computers, but not the other...i get the error message. "can't access tty; job control turned off" any ideas?
[01:05] <trainer_> sir_mud unionfs and tmpfs
[01:05] <MoTown> kitche, was I supposed to create the bad_list file under /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[01:05] <barbarella> sroske:so it did start up
[01:05] <frogzoo> humbolto: lots of people in support channels claim stuff is broken, doesn't mean it is
[01:05] <humbolto> Enough talk. I want to have the feisty kernel in edgy. Don't care it this is supported! What do I need to do?
[01:05] <sir_mud> hmm, it isn't detecting the partition then
[01:05] <kitche> MoTown: if you don't have it yes
[01:05] <trainer_> jellobean thats the same thing I have when i boot from hdd
[01:05] <humbolto> frogzoo: my info is accurate
[01:06] <exs> I have a cell phone with a camera, how do I batch my photos to scale down 75%? ...
[01:06] <MTecknology> I have a system running Ubuntu. It's a Gateway M285-E. I am lost as far as getting the Fujitsu Finepoint stylus to work. I don't even know if it's being recognized, any help?
[01:06] <MoTown> kitche, ok well I did not have it and I created it, and when the system restarted I still got a response
[01:06] <jellobean> trainer_ can you boot from live cd?
[01:06] <sroske> barbarella: wait, I just remember I have ubuntu live CDs from the summer, but they are ubuntu and I thought edubuntu would work better. I'll check now.
[01:06] <humbolto> frogzoo: and as I mentioned before, it is fixed in feisty
[01:06] <trainer_> jellobean yes thats where i'm at now
[01:06] <kitche> MoTown: I added most of that stuff to disable ipv6 to my alisas file
[01:06] <humbolto> frogzoo: so how do I get the feisty kernel to run in edgy?
[01:06] <barbarella> sroske:there we go
[01:06] <sroske> barbarella: it is ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[01:07] <sir_mud> trainer_, look for a program called testdisk on google, it'll scan your harddrive and give you a list of the partitions and let you recover them
[01:07] <MoTown> kitche, where is my alias file located? i'm pretty new at this
[01:07] <kitche> MoTown: /etc/modprobe.d/
[01:07] <MoTown> kitche, cool should have known
[01:07] <barbarella> sroske:i think that's no problem with your old pc
[01:07] <trainer_> sir_mud i dont think it detects my hdd at all
[01:07] <trippen> how can i tell for sure what version my kernel is
[01:07] <sroske> barbarella: loading kernal now
[01:07] <Err_> whenever i upgrade my drivers from nv to nvidia and i try to start up kubuntu it goes right to shell instead. this happened after i installed the beta drivers, then uninstalled them
[01:07] <preaction> trippen: uname -a
[01:07] <zorba64> uname -a
[01:08] <barbarella> sroske:ah
[01:08] <sir_mud> try running dmesg > dmesg.txt and look through dmesg.txt for any errors
[01:08] <kmu> when i boot from the live cd, i don't see my hard drive in /dev. how do i get ubuntu to see it?
[01:08] <trippen> th1 Linux PhasedC2D 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:08] <trippen>  is the result so does that help ?
[01:08] <sir_mud> it should automagically detect it unless there is a hardware error
[01:08] <sroske> ] barbarella: I just saw the same error message quickly flash before continuing the boot
[01:08] <dyrne> Err_: just curious.  whyd you go with the beta drivers instead of nvidia-glx package?
[01:08] <trippen> thanks preaction
[01:09] <barbarella> sroske:i think it is hardware problem
[01:09] <MoTown> kitche, Would I remove the alias for ipv6 from the aliases file?
[01:09] <sroske> barbarella: darn
[01:09] <barbarella> sroske:try to change hd cables
[01:09] <barbarella> sroske:if you can
[01:09] <Err_> dyrne: i don't know, i just decided to test them out. i was using the glx package before. then i installed the beta and i got shell, so i uninstalled, went back into kubuntu just fine with 'nv' drivers, then used automatix to give back the nvidia drivers, and now it's going to shell again
[01:10] <sroske> barbarella: I have some spare ones to try.
[01:10] <trainer_> edgy on 64bit has been an absolute nightmare
[01:10] <barbarella> sroske:ok
[01:10] <MTecknology> I have a system running Ubuntu. It's a Gateway M285-E. I am lost as far as getting the Fujitsu Finepoint stylus to work. I don't even know if it's being recognized, any help?
[01:10] <MoTown> kitche, Or better yet, perhaps just comment is out.
[01:10] <dyrne> Err_: edgy?
[01:10] <deville75> I want to know what happens if i accidentally install a program incorrectly, for example, I followed instructions for Ubuntu Edgy, but I have Breezy.  Can I just start following Breezy instructions, or do I uninstall the previous version
[01:11] <kitche> MoTown: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 follow Disabling IPv6 on Dapper it worsk on edgy
[01:11] <frogzoo> trainer_: for a desktop you do best with 32 bit
[01:11] <Err_> dyrne: yes the most recent
[01:11] <syntaxx> im using pure-ftpd for my ftp server. and i wonder when i browse it using my explorer ftp://ftp.my.domain it doesnt prompt for any user and password it shows page cannot be displayed. anyone know why?
[01:12] <frogzoo> deville75: back out whatever you did first
[01:12] <sir_mud> seconded, 64bit is only really nessecary for servers atm
[01:12] <deville75> how do i do that?
[01:12] <trainer_> frogzoo it's a laptop. which distro has the most solid 64bit support?
[01:12] <cafuego_> trainer_: Solaris probably
[01:12] <juano> how do i transfer a downloading torrent from one client to the other not having to start the download from 0% again ?
[01:12] <juano> e.g i want to transfer a torrent downloading from Ktorrent to azureus
[01:12] <ThunderFox> Don't waist your time with 64 bit support on a Laptop.
[01:12] <dyrne> Err_: ive used this a number of times http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy  to install. im not really too familiar with the manual installs though
[01:12] <cafuego_> trainer_: for desktop use, i'd just go 32bit. less pain, more "just works".
[01:12] <ThunderFox> If you don't have the memory, it's not worth it.
[01:13] <deville75> frogzoo: how do I back out?
[01:13] <sir_mud> as long as you tell them to save the same place it should work juano
[01:13] <ThunderFox> You can access the additional instructions in 32 bit mode.
[01:13] <syntaxx> im using pure-ftpd for my ftp server. and i wonder when i browse it using my explorer ftp://ftp.my.domain it doesnt prompt for any user and password it shows page cannot be displayed. but when i go ftp://user@ftp.my.domain it prompts for my pass though.. anyone know why?
[01:13] <trainer_> cafuego_ i cant just put 32 bit ubuntu on amd 64 hardware ??
[01:13] <frogzoo> deville75: you undo whatever you did
[01:13] <trainer_> can i?
[01:13] <sir_mud> yes
[01:13] <ThunderFox> Syntaxx, it's IE.
[01:13] <sir_mud> 64bit is just 32bit extensions
[01:13] <cafuego_> syntaxx: Because wb browsers use anonymous ftp unless specified otherwise.
[01:13] <trainer_> oh @#$%
[01:14] <dyrne> syntaxx: i would think it would depend on the client youre using
[01:14] <cafuego_> trainer_: Yes you can.
[01:14] <liquidsilence> A friend told me that Linux is much better to use for hacking than Windows. Does anybody know anything specific about that?
[01:14] <deville75> frogzoo: ... i guess so if i got a package from Synaptic then I just go back and uncheck it?
[01:14] <gpd> I am currently trying to extract myself from 64bit ubuntu on my server -- the proprietary backup software didn't work on it :(
[01:14] <ThunderFox> trainer_  Of course you can.
[01:14] <trainer_> arrrrrgh
[01:14] <dyrne> liquidsilence: omgz yes
[01:14] <syntaxx> dyrne: well i tried IE and Firefox to access it but im having page cannot be displayed
[01:14] <trainer_> well that should do it for me, thanks
[01:14] <liquidsilence> dyrne:  How, specifically?
[01:15] <frogzoo> trainer_: sure you can
[01:15] <ThunderFox> liquidsilence, if your doing hardware hacking yes, if your a script kiddy, you'll be overwhelmed.
[01:15] <frogzoo> deville75: it's not possible to install edgy packages on dapper through synaptic, so I'm not really sure what you've done
[01:15] <dyrne> syntaxx: pure-admin is i think a gui front end package might be easier for you to set up using it. set up anomymous login and such i mean
[01:15] <liquidsilence> ThunderFox:  Thanks. :)
[01:15] <LordSavage> how can i display a user list in x-chat?
[01:16] <MoTown> i'm trying to disable ipv6 and i'm having some trouble.  After I followed the guide I still have IPv6 enabled, what do I do?
[01:16] <frogzoo> MoTown: did you reboot ?
[01:16] <jvai> linux is great for basic networking .. the unix way... you'll learn sooo much, i did
[01:16] <MoTown> frogzoo, yes, I rebotted already
[01:16] <LordSavage> how can i display a user list in x-chat?
[01:16] <rapid> LordSavage, Check preferences  > user list.
[01:16] <HymnToLife> LordSavage, it should be there by default, can I have a screeshot of your xchat ?
[01:17] <Beseiged> could someone message me to answer some basic questions?
[01:17] <MoTown> frogzoo, it is still enabled somehow
[01:17] <syntaxx> dyrne: wait im confused.. do i need to have a anonymous access for it to view it on browsers? coz what i want when they go to the url it should ask for user and password
[01:17] <barbarella> Beseiged:?
[01:17] <Beseiged> yes
[01:17] <dyrne> liquidsilence: :) well everything is free on there are any number of tutorials and people willing to help you learn to program and about various protocols
[01:17] <Beseiged> i don't want to spam the public channel
[01:17] <trippen> how can i make sure my kernel is mounting libsenors and sysfs
[01:17] <Beseiged> and then lose trrack of conversations
[01:17] <LordSavage> can't finde it
[01:17] <LordSavage> sure
[01:17] <LordSavage> @ HymnToLife
[01:18] <LjL> !pm | Beseiged
[01:18] <ubotu> Beseiged: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[01:18] <Beseiged> i can't update
[01:18] <dyrne> syntaxx: im really not sure ive never used those as ftp clients.  i know firefox is supposed to have a nice ftp plugin but i mean that seems like a complaint about the browser youre using mostly
[01:18] <tj_> how can I rename my harddrive?
[01:18] <Beseiged> i get to loading 24 or 42 and then an eror
[01:19] <HymnToLife> tj_, define "rename"
[01:19] <tj_> does somebody know this?!
[01:19] <tj_> sorry hehe..
[01:19] <Beseiged> i've updated my sources.list
[01:19] <linxeh> liquidsilence: linux is easier to hack on because there are more development tools. it is typically quite costly to do any hacking on windows because you need to buy something like visual studio to do it effectively
[01:19] <Beseiged> according to the source-o-matic
[01:19] <HymnToLife> Beseiged, what to you want to update ?
[01:19] <syntaxx> dyrne: ok thanks
[01:19] <cikas> barbarella
[01:19] <sir_mud> uh, mingw, why pay for vstudio
[01:19] <Beseiged> well its a fresh install
[01:19] <cikas> i fimd is a bttv
[01:19] <tj_> HymnToLife, i've partitioned and formatted a hard drive using gparted and I wish to rename it to <name>
[01:19] <Beseiged> said there was 128 files to update
[01:20] <deville75> frogzoo: lol, I gotta start using Linux more often.  I totally forgot everything.  Oh well lets see what happens
[01:20] <Beseiged> somehow messing with my sources i don't even get that list anymore
[01:20] <HymnToLife> tj_, instead of what ?
[01:20] <Beseiged> then when i did have that list and clicked update
[01:20] <Beseiged> they all failed
[01:20] <barbarella> cikas:yes
[01:20] <tj_> HymnToLife, instead of usbdisk
[01:20] <HymnToLife> Beseiged, oh, right, could you please pastebin your sources.list ?
[01:20] <tj_> HymnToLife, because I now have usbdisk 1 - 2 and 3
[01:21] <barbarella> cikas:bttvis ok
[01:21] <barbarella> cikas:bttv is ok
[01:21] <d0uglas> Hi. Right now i only get wifi when i log in with a gnome session (not kde) with gnome's networkmanager thing. What can i apt-get to get wifi going on boot (init.d style?)?
[01:21] <d0uglas> ifplugd, waproamd? guessnet?
[01:21] <nexousNET> Hi, how would I go about accessing my windows network hard drive through ubuntu?
[01:21] <Beseiged> in this channel?
[01:21] <Beseiged> # Automatically generated sources.list
[01:21] <Beseiged> # http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[01:21] <Beseiged> #
[01:21] <Beseiged> # If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file
[01:21] <Beseiged> # and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key)
[01:21] <Beseiged> #
[01:21] <Beseiged> # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[01:21] <cikas> now i am trying to scan again
[01:21] <Beseiged> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[01:21] <cikas> :d
[01:21] <Beseiged> # Ubuntu supported packages
[01:21] <HymnToLife> :/
[01:21] <Beseiged> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[01:21] <Beseiged> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe
[01:21] <Beseiged> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[01:21] <Beseiged> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[01:21] <graft_> !paste | Beseiged
[01:21] <ubotu> Beseiged: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:21] <tj_> HymnToLife, mkfs.ext3 <name> /dev/sdx  <---- normally this is done like this right?
[01:21] <Beseiged> # Ubuntu community supported packages
[01:21] <d0uglas> Sigh.
[01:21] <Beseiged> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[01:22] <Beseiged> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[01:22] <graft_> oh my god
[01:22] <Beseiged> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[01:22] <Beseiged> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[01:22] <Beseiged> # Upstream Wine
[01:22] <HymnToLife> tj_, yep
[01:22] <Beseiged> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[01:22] <Beseiged> # Medibuntu multimedia packages
[01:22] <barbarella> Beseiged:aaarrrrgh
[01:22] <Beseiged> # GPG key: 0C5A2783
[01:22] <Beseiged> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[01:22] <graft_> Beseiged: CUT IT OUT
[01:22] <Beseiged> # Canonical Commercial packages
[01:22] <d0uglas> no anti flood rules with you guys?
[01:22] <Beseiged> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[01:22] <d0uglas> back to debian
[01:22] <Beseiged> deb http://archive.canonical.com dapper-commercial main
[01:22] <frogzoo> tj_: e2label if that's what you want
[01:22] <d0uglas> :P
[01:22] <Beseiged> i don'y know what thayt means
[01:22] <trippen> how can i make sure my kernel is mounting libsenors and sysfs
[01:22] <Beseiged> i wasn't spamming, i've used linux 1 day
[01:22] <HymnToLife> tj_, I don't know how to change the mountpoint for device smounted with pmount, sorry
[01:22] <frogzoo> Beseiged: pasting in channel is a really bad plan
[01:22] <LordSavage> @ HymnToLife : http://www.masse-design.com/linux/xchat.png
[01:22] <graft_> Beseiged: don't paste large texts in here, it pisses off jesus
[01:22] <LjL> gee Beseiged
[01:22] <LordSavage> that is how it looks
[01:22] <tj_> HymnToLife, ow ok :)
[01:22] <cypherdelic> Need help with encryption: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=17047
[01:22] <trippen> who caresa bout jesus
[01:22] <tj_> frogzoo, I'll try e2label
[01:22] <trippen> hes dead..
[01:23] <Beseiged> well how do you want me to show you the sources.list then?
[01:23] <frogzoo> tj_: e2label if that's what you want
[01:23] <graft_> !paste | Beseiged
[01:23] <ubotu> Beseiged: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:23] <LjL> graft_: that was totally inappropriate
[01:23] <trippen> please help how can i make sure my kernel is mounting libsenors and sysfs
[01:23] <cikas> barbarella:if i type sudo modprobe -c=/etc/modprobe.conf bttv card=42 tuner=24 radio=1 is that corect?
[01:24] <HymnToLife> LordSavage, try  /set gui_ulist_hide OFF
[01:24] <graft_> LjL: which?
[01:24] <Beseiged> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5647/
[01:24] <Beseiged> is that better?
[01:24] <frogzoo> Beseiged: that will get you better help, yes
[01:24] <graft_> LjL: the jesus thing? apologies...
[01:24] <barbarella> cikas:have you got an audio problem, cause it should work out of the box
[01:24] <LjL> graft_: yes, that
[01:24] <LordSavage> gui_ulist_hide set to: 0
[01:24] <LordSavage> but it changed nothing
[01:24] <ubuntu_noob> hi, i think i nuked my GL install
[01:25] <deville75> I'm following a tutorial for downloading Azureus (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo) and it says I need to wget http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/azureus_2.4.0.2-1_all.deb
[01:25] <ubuntu_noob> is there an easy way to revert back to default?
[01:25] <deville75> But I get an error
[01:25] <deville75> wget http://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/contrib/a/azureus/azureus_2.4.0.2-1_all.deb
[01:25] <cikas> i dont have any image even sound
[01:25] <LjL> Beseiged, your sources.list looks decent to me. what is the problem?
[01:25] <deville75> sry not that error
[01:25] <cypherdelic> Need help with encryption: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=17047
[01:25] <Err_> has anybody else ever installed beta and had ubuntu only start into shell?
[01:25] <deville75>            => `azureus_2.4.0.2-1_all.deb'
[01:25] <deville75> Resolving ftp.egr.msu.edu... 35.9.37.225
[01:25] <deville75> Connecting to ftp.egr.msu.edu|35.9.37.225|:80... connected.
[01:25] <deville75> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[01:25] <deville75> 19:22:06 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[01:25] <dyrne> deville75: you dont need to do all that just install java jre and then go to the azureus website
[01:25] <trippen> please help how can i make sure my kernel is mounting libsenors and sysfs
[01:25] <Beseiged> i when i do sudo apt-get update
[01:25] <LordSavage> HymnToLife,  maybe a bug in the feisty version?
[01:25] <HymnToLife> LordSavage, do you have something on the right edge of your window now ? like dots or someting ?
[01:25] <deville75> i c
[01:25] <deville75> ok
[01:26] <barbarella> to much deville75
[01:26] <deville75> sry
[01:26] <LordSavage> ah
[01:26] <LordSavage> thank you
[01:26] <LordSavage> my mistake
[01:26] <LordSavage> :D
[01:26] <rapid> that error is self explanitory
[01:26] <Beseiged> i get errors, i can only load about 24/42 before i get an error retreive repos, and i no longer have files listed in my update manager
[01:26] <ThunderFox> Ubuntu_Noob, what's your partition setup?
[01:26] <dyrne> deville75: azureus is a pain for me with 512 ram though. there are smaller torrent clients that work well
[01:26] <barbarella> Beseiged:take an other mirror
[01:27] <trippen> please help how can i make sure my kernel is mounting libsenors and sysfs
[01:27] <LjL> Beseiged, do another "sudo apt-get update" and paste the full output of it into the pastebin, please
[01:27] <cypherdelic> Need help with encryption: http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=17047
[01:27] <Beseiged> as an update?
[01:28] <ubuntu_noob> ThunderFox: i only nuked the opengl stuff, i don't think it's a partition problem
[01:28] <ubuntu_noob> by copying new .so files over the default ones
[01:28] <deville75> dyrne: what are they? I have 1GB of ram, but if you know better programs please tell
[01:29] <ThunderFox> ubuntu_noob, you you accidently disrupted a package, just use the package manager to reinstall the package and it should clean it up.
[01:29] <geckino> hi, have ubuntu package mod_security 1.9 or 2 for apache2
[01:29] <Beseiged> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5648/ i've reposted with the output
[01:29] <geckino> ?
[01:29] <ubuntu_noob> ThunderFox: yeah i've done that, but it still refuses to work 0.o
[01:30] <ubuntu_noob> ThunderFox: every time i try to run any opengl related app i get symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmOpenOnce
[01:30] <ubuntu_noob> but i've made sure that it's the so from the original packages
[01:30] <dyrne> deville75: well ive heard good things about ctorrent. i use rtorrent but thats a terminal app.. deluge is something ive been keeping an eye on but havent tried yet
[01:30] <ThunderFox> ubuntu_noob,  well the reason I asked about the partition, is if you want to reinstall, you can save your user settings by keeping your /home directory in a separate partition and not reformating it.  (Back it up just to be safe, as well as your whole system if you have the slightest thought you might need some file that is in the main tree)
[01:31] <kupesoft> Does linux-restricted-modules-generic work on the server kernel?
[01:31] <LjL> Beseiged, yes, try other mirrors than the US ones. is your internet connection generally working well?
[01:31] <dyrne> deville75: if youre on kde id just use ktorrent but in gnome..
[01:31] <ubuntu_noob> ThunderFox:  it would be nice to not have to do a whole re install :<
[01:31] <amonkey> how can i extract a .flp in ubuntu?
[01:31] <deville75> dyrne: i c.. hmm I'll check those out, but until then I have a shell script of Azureus, how do I run it? I'm sorry if this is really noob question
[01:32] <Beseiged> never have internet problems, i had a server up and running for 35 days with no disconnects
[01:32] <ryanakca> how would I make this work in cron/crontab? 0-59/30 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate 0.ca.pool.ntp.org
[01:32] <agliv_> Can anyone help me to get Licq to play sounds again?  Sometimes it beeps and sometimes it doesn't even though I haven't changed the settings....
[01:32] <Beseiged> before i shut it down
[01:32] <Beseiged> i also have dmz on this computer
[01:32] <Biovore> .flp isn't that an ISO FS type thing?
[01:32] <Beseiged> is that source-o-matic a reliable place to get sources?
[01:33] <ubuntu_noob> ThunderFox:  if i select all the installed packages in synaptic for re install, should that fix it?
[01:33] <amonkey> Biovore: I believe it is a floppy image. But I don't have a floppy drive and just need the files out of it.
[01:33] <Q_Continuum> I forget, can you do a server install off a desktop CD?
[01:34] <LjL> Beseiged: yes
[01:34] <Biovore> The differance between the server and the desktop is 1 virtual package
[01:34] <Biovore> after installing desktop to get server uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[01:34] <dooglus> ryanakca: stick it in /etc/crontab  - but it's better to use ntp than ntpdate - that's a daemon that keeps itself synced as it needs to
[01:34] <kitche> Biovore: you still have all the gnome applications installed though
[01:34] <pjz_> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and I lost my mouse in the process.  Any hints?
[01:35] <kitche> Biovore: so it's just not one package
[01:35] <Beseiged> ok i just updated my sources.list to Switzerland and have an = ammunt of errors
[01:35] <pjz_> it's a USB mouse, if that matters
[01:35] <Biovore> well if you remove gtk.. it should catch all the dependicies..
[01:35] <barbarella> Beseiged:your urls doesn't match, and you have some things 2 times
[01:37] <pjz_> I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and I lost my mouse in the process.  Any hints? it's a USB mouse if that matters.
[01:37] <Beseiged> this is what i have now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5649/
[01:37] <Beseiged> still errored
[01:37] <Biovore> pjz_: dmesg | grep mouse
[01:37] <amonkey> exit
[01:37] <dooglus> pjz_: if you tail -f /var/log/syslog then unplug and replug the mouse, do you see anything?
[01:38] <tarelerulz> I had something funny  happen to me one day my wireless card was not working and the next day it is working . I have no idea what I did
[01:38] <Trenatos> Anyone got a min over to help out a newbie?
[01:38] <pjz_> | mice: PS/2 mouse system common to all mice
[01:38] <tarelerulz> all I can think I did was update my system
[01:38] <torero> Hello, have a problem with glxgears..no frames per seconds were shown!:(
[01:39] <casey_> is david in here?
[01:39] <dooglus> torero: did you use the fps flag?
[01:39] <Biovore> dmesg | grep input:
[01:39] <Biovore> dose that show a mouse?
[01:39] <torero> don't know....I'm new...I just typed in glxgears
[01:39] <ST47> hello, help please :D
[01:40] <deville75> Anyone know how I run Azureus when I've finished installing it?
[01:40] <Trenatos> Yea, it should be in the menu, under Internet.
[01:40] <casey_> does anyone here use beryl?
[01:40] <Biovore> deville75: you will probably have to run it from a shell (terminal)
[01:40] <Biovore> casey_: I do..
[01:40] <casey_> !beryl
[01:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:40] <barbarella> Beseiged:it should be http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[01:40] <torero> glxgears -fps don't work :(
[01:40] <ST47> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10 on a laptop, and every time I try, I get up to "select and install software" and it fails
[01:40] <tarelerulz> I installed berly last night. it is cool ,but it crash alot on me
[01:40] <xtknight> torero:  glxgears -printfps
[01:41] <torero> thx
[01:41] <casey_> it broke beryl
[01:41] <casey_> and need some help fixing it
[01:41] <Biovore> torero: Its not a good benchmark
[01:41] <Vilhelms> I was asking in #winehq about a problem I was having running World of Warcraft, where after a minute of running it my whole computer would hang and I am forced to a hard shutdown but they told me it is probably a problem with my video card and not wine
[01:41] <ST47> I've burnt many DVDs, this one finally checked ok, and it failed again
[01:41] <pjz_> dooglus: nope nothing
[01:41] <jvai> hey ppl i'm ghost!
[01:41] <torero> yes...I know.but.....after starting glxgears I receive the message -->  libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:42] <ST47> it's a very old laptop
[01:42] <cikas> barbarella: after dmesg i found modtec:unknown tunerstring: ??????????????
[01:42] <factboy818181> just out of random curiosity, is there an ubuntu equivalent of Windows MOvie Maker
[01:42] <barbarella> cikas:still a problem
[01:42] <Biovore> torero: what graphics card?
[01:42] <cikas> what should i do?
[01:42] <torero> ATI Mobility 9700
[01:42] <Biovore> factboy818181: kinda...
[01:42] <Trenatos> Here's a Newbie-question for you people. heh.. *embarrased* How do I activate KDE (Or other) after installing it?
[01:42] <Biovore> torero: you install ATI's driver correctly..
[01:42] <ST47> perhaps using ubuntu rather than kubuntu may help, I am going to try to burn the dvd at 1x rather than 2x, but honestly, WTF
[01:42] <factboy818181> Biovore: ?
[01:42] <Biovore> torero: Its a pain in the butt
[01:42] <Vilhelms> I am having a problem where World of Warcraft has bad FPS and after about a minute hangs, as well as my whole PC and can't seem to find a solution for it. Here is some output related to my video card, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5608/. Does anyone have any idea of what I could try?
[01:42] <pjz_> Trenatos: choose it as your window manager
[01:43] <barbarella> cikas:what is the tv hardware you have got?
[01:43] <Biovore> factboy818181: cinderela I think its called
[01:43] <torero> torero@torero-laptop:~$ glxinfo | grep direct
[01:43] <torero> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:43] <torero> direct rendering: Yes
[01:43] <Biovore> factboy818181: its not in the repos (I think)
[01:43] <Trenatos> pjz_ duh. But HOW do I do that. thats my problem. Where do I do that?
[01:43] <Biovore> torero: glxinfo
[01:43] <cikas> a pixelwiew
[01:43] <factboy818181> Biovore: any other programs?  I think I tried Cinderela already... :(
[01:43] <torero> direct rendering: Yes
[01:43] <pjz_> Trenatos: oh, should be in your display manager. uh, the thing that prompts you to log in.
[01:43] <deville75> Biovore: I do but it shows a bunch of lines of info and then it says Azureus TERMINATED
[01:43] <Biovore> factboy818181: kino
[01:44] <factboy818181> Biovore: thanks
[01:44] <Biovore> deville75: you have java install correctly?
[01:44] <cikas> TVTuner PixelView Play TV Pro Ultra
[01:44] <Trenatos> Brb
[01:44] <tarelerulz> I make xgl session myself and it is all messed up . It miss menu text so much all most to the point that I could not use it . once I ran berly manager for the menue it worked
[01:44] <geckino> hi, has ubuntu package mod_security 1.9 or 2 for apache2?
[01:44] <barbarella> cikas:pal or ntsc?
[01:44] <emakris2> Anyone know why chroot wouldn't work from a live CD shell?
[01:44] <deville75> Biovore: yes I believe so,
[01:44] <casey_> ubuntu noob here and was wonderering if anyone could help me get beryl working again after i somehow broke it the first time i had it working
[01:44] <Biovore> tarelerulz: beryl is very beta still
[01:45] <emakris2> my latest kernel update fried my system and I need to run apt-get upgrade
[01:45] <kitche> casey_: #ubuntu-effects for help with xgl, aiglx or beryl and compiz
[01:45] <ST47> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10 on a laptop, and every time I try, I get up to "select and install software" and it fails
[01:45] <ST47> I've burnt many DVDs, this one finally checked ok, and it failed again
[01:45] <eitan> hey guys...i'm having problems compiling gtk 2.10.9 from source.  I believe I have all the dependencies and ./configure runs fine.  When i do "make" i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5650/plain/ ...any suggestions?  I'd appreciate it very much!
[01:45] <torero> I think gfx is installed ok because of direct rendering is set to yes
[01:45] <cikas> pal
[01:45] <Biovore> deville75: let me see if I can find a howto on install in azureus
[01:45] <tarelerulz> Well, that is good to know I was think I might have messed up the config
[01:45] <deville75> Biovore: I found one
[01:45] <Beseiged> i've updated to use http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ and i still get all ign and err
[01:45] <Biovore> deville75: still no go?
[01:45] <torero> but no frames where shown when I start the glxgears
[01:46] <deville75> Biovore: I followed it and still no go.
[01:46] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know about wireless
[01:46] <emakris2> anyone here had any problems after the 2.6.17-11 kernel upgrade?
[01:46] <Beseiged> do you know anything possibly on my side that would prevent updates. perhaps closed posrts or such
[01:46] <deville75> Biovore: this is the website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[01:46] <Vilhelms> emakris2, Yeah, my ndiswrapper messed up completely, I had to reinstall it lol
[01:46] <kitche> emakris2: everyoen had problems when they upgraded the kernel
[01:46] <tarelerulz> I get kubuntu to see my card  and see other wireless network ,but I can't connnect to them
[01:46] <barbarella> cikas:can you pastebin dmesg for me, i only need the bttv section.
[01:46] <emakris2> did everyone just end up reinstalling?
[01:46] <Biovore> deville75: Don't really know why..  I think it might be something with java..  It a complete pain in the but..  If your running kde, I would run ktorrent works well..
[01:46] <emakris2> I can't boot either the old kernel
[01:46] <tim167> ok i downloaded a new ubuntu live cd and now i want to try to repair my broken installation, how do i proceed ?
[01:47] <cikas> pffff i am on another pc
[01:47] <cikas> :d
[01:47] <Vilhelms> I am having a problem where World of Warcraft has bad FPS and after about a minute hangs, as well as my whole PC and can't seem to find a solution for it. Here is some output related to my video card, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5608/. Does anyone have any idea of what I could try?
[01:47] <kitche> emakris2: no some fixed their problems while other booted to the old kernel
[01:47] <deville75> hmm how do i know what I have I'm kind of a noob, but I believe I have  Gnome
[01:47] <Biovore> torero: dose glxinfo show glx vender string: ATI
[01:47] <emakris2> I wish I could boot the old kernel :(
[01:47] <Vilhelms> emakris2, You can
[01:47] <emakris2> I have no idea why that would be affected
[01:47] <tim167> i have no option 'repair' on ubuntu live cd ... help !
[01:47] <Vilhelms> emakris2, Just hit esc while grub is loading and choose the older one
[01:47] <emakris2> I get the same error
[01:48] <winston> what is the command to shutdown if you cant shutdown via the button in the top right?
[01:48] <stinger_au> yo
[01:48] <emakris2> I tried that, /sbin/loader permission denied
[01:48] <Vilhelms> emakris2, Oh =\ What is it that you're having a problem with in the new kernel?
[01:48] <barbarella> Beseiged:in console, can you do a wget http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/db3/db3-doc_3.2.9-25_all.deb
[01:48] <ryanakca> dooglus: kk, thanks
[01:48] <pbureau> winston, sudo shutdown -h now
[01:48] <ST47> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10 on a laptop, and every time I try, I get up to "select and install software" and it fails
[01:48] <ST47> I've burnt many DVDs, this one finally checked ok, and it failed again
[01:48] <barbarella> Beseiged:just an example
[01:48] <Beseiged> a file downloaded
[01:49] <emakris2> Vilhelms: yeah there is no way to boot any of the kernels :(
[01:49] <winston> aah, cant open terminal either
[01:49] <Beseiged> 19:48:30 (285.38 KB/s) - `db3-doc_3.2.9-25_all.deb' saved [722440/722440] 
[01:49] <Vilhelms> emakris2, Can you boot in recovery mode at all?
[01:49] <emakris2> I'm on an nvidia chipset as well
[01:49] <emakris2> yes
[01:49] <Beseiged> completed
[01:49] <tim167> how can i repair my broken ubuntu installation ? i have a live cd but it doesnt give me 'repair' option or anything..
[01:49] <pbureau> winston, try pressing your power button
[01:49] <emakris2> I can mount the drive and have backed everything up
[01:49] <winston> righty
[01:49] <emakris2> now I want to run chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[01:49] <kitche> emakris2: have to reinstall the nvidia driver
[01:49] <Beseiged> can you hold any comment till iget back
[01:49] <winston> thought there might be an elegant way
[01:49] <barbarella> cikas:if you are connected with ssh dmesg souldn't be problem
[01:49] <Beseiged> should be like < 2 minutes running to restroom
[01:49] <emakris2> and I get /bin/bash permission denied
[01:50] <lipe__> how can i install the newest gnome desktop ???/ please ...
[01:50] <stinger_au> does kde-core cover the xserver stuff you need as well ?
[01:50] <emakris2> I would love to get to the chroot to be able to reinstall the nvidia driver :)
[01:50] <Vilhelms> tim167, You can boot in recovery mode by hitting esc before grub loads your kernel
[01:50] <emakris2> But I can't
[01:50] <pbureau> winston, well the program intercepts the power button as a request to shutdown, if it works it should goto shutdown mode. (same as shutdown -h now)
[01:50] <cikas> barbarella i send toy i am the same nikos
[01:50] <tim167> Vilhekms: so without CD ?
[01:50] <emakris2> The only other thing I'm doing is downloading the alternate cd install to see if the repair installation option will work
[01:50] <tarelerulz> are subnet and netmask the same thing ?
[01:50] <tim167> Vilhelms: ^
[01:50] <pbureau> winston, you can try ctl-alt-F2 and do the sudo command
[01:51] <maxx18> hey guys... flashplugin-nonfree 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 from the dapper repos isn't working for me. It installed fine but I can't view any flash sites.....
[01:51] <emakris2> but I was wondering if anyone knows why chroot is complaining?
[01:51] <Beseiged> k back
[01:51] <nikos> barbarella i am cikas on the another pc
[01:51] <barbarella> cikas:so, the only thing whjat does work i xawtv
[01:51] <Vilhelms> tim167, Yeah, take out the CD... Grub will tell you its loading and you have about 3 seconds to hti esc and go to the menu
[01:51] <graft_> maxx18: enable backports and you should be able to get flash 9
[01:51] <barbarella> cikas:so, the only thing what does work i xawtv
[01:51] <Vilhelms> tim167, Once you do you can select "recovery mode" and it will take you right into the shell with root access ;)
[01:51] <nikos> i l see now
[01:51] <pbureau> graft, flash9 has issues as well (install wize)
[01:51] <Vilhelms> tim167, Now, as far as what you need to do to repair... thats a whole different issue heh
[01:51] <lipe__> how can i install the newest gnome desktop ???/ please ...
[01:52] <tim167> Vilhelms: ok ... then i'm nowhere actually
[01:52] <maxx18> graft_, i have enabled them... i think u can only get flash 9 on edgy
[01:52] <tim167> Vilhelms: can you help ?
[01:52] <Vilhelms> tim167, :( I can't help you much further because I'm not too experienced with Ubuntu yet
[01:52] <Vilhelms> tim167, Depends, what is your problem?
[01:52] <barbarella> Beseiged:try to reinstall apt
[01:52] <Beseiged> how does one do that?
[01:53] <tim167> Vilhelms: when starting ubuntu it hangs on first 'logo' screen at 'waiting for root file system'
[01:53] <Vilhelms> tim167, try to see if you can boot in recovery mode and see if you get any errors... that may help us further
[01:53] <barbarella> Beseiged:apt-get --reinstall
[01:53] <Vilhelms> tim167, If not, try running dmesg and see if there is any issues there
[01:54] <Vilhelms> tim167, Other than that, I don't remember where the system log is so you'll have to ask someone else where that is :-\
[01:54] <emakris2> Vilhems: should I try recovery mode as well?
[01:54] <emakris2> I booted from the live CD
[01:54] <emakris2> but that's where I get the chroot issue
[01:54] <tim167> Vilhelms: started recovery mode, but i have no prompt
[01:54] <gemini9> hi
[01:54] <Vilhelms> emakris2, Did you not say you tried that? Yeah it'd be good. Thats probably why its not letting you mount successfully
[01:54] <Vilhelms> tim167, Where did it stop?
[01:54] <tim167> Vilhelms: only a cursor
[01:54] <emakris2> I tried from the desktop live cd, not the alternate one yet
[01:54] <Vilhelms> tim167, Yeah, either its hanging or its still loading... is it showing any messages at all?
[01:55] <tim167> Vilhelms: ".... USB HID core driver"
[01:55] <ffad> can i use beryl on dapper drake anymore
[01:55] <ffad> or is that not supported
[01:55] <Beseiged> when i type that i am shown a screen of text
[01:55] <Vilhelms> tim167, Maybe you have a problem with your USB drive =\ Did it say anything else?
[01:55] <tim167> Vilhelms: no other messages no
[01:55] <lipe__> how can i install the newest gnome desktop ???/ please ...
[01:55] <tim167> Vilhelms: ah it also says: waiting for root file system
[01:55] <Vilhelms> emakris2, I am not 100% sure but I don't think you can gain access to your drive through the Live CD so try booting in recovery mode
[01:55] <barbarella> Beseiged:apt-get --reinstall apt
[01:56] <Biovore> lipe__: check it out of cvs/svn and build it I guess..
[01:56] <emakris2> ok willdo, recovery cd is downloading now.
[01:56] <Vilhelms> tim167, Okay, yeah that can take a few seconds... depending on the speed of your computer but if not then there may be something wrong with the drive :(
[01:56] <emakris2> Vilhelms: thanks for the support!
[01:56] <[M] Darkorical> hello
[01:56] <tim167> Vilhelms: and there was something else about that, but it just dissapeared, have to retry boot
[01:56] <barbarella> Beseiged:what does apt-get -f install say?
[01:56] <lipe__> Biovore: thx u very much
[01:56] <maxx18> if i do update-flashplugin it fails with "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes".... can anybody help me out?
[01:56] <torero> biovore ........ no vendor string: SGI :(
[01:56] <Vilhelms> emakris2, You're welcome, i'm not really doing much just trying to brainstorm through the problems I have had setting my Ubuntu up the past few days :)
[01:56] <tim167> Vilhelms: or its looking in the wrong place
[01:56] <cikas> barbarella xawtv does not work
[01:57] <Vilhelms> tim167, I'm not sure =\ I don't know much about problems with the filesystem
[01:57] <Vilhelms> tim167, All I cay say is that it may not be able to load the drive... but I have no clue
[01:57] <[M] Darkorical> I have a few questions some on ubuntu and some on linux in general  can I get some answeres here?
[01:57] <tim167> Vilhelms: after waiting for root file system comes :   device not accepting addres 2, error -71
[01:57] <Vilhelms> tim167, You'll have to try and see if you can get someone more experienced give you a hand.. sorry i can't be of any more help :(
[01:58] <Beseiged> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5652/
[01:58] <EpicUser> anyone tried running *buntu off a memory stick?
[01:58] <tim167> Vilhelms: no problem thanks anyway
[01:58] <Vilhelms> tim167, :( I have no clue what that means
[01:58] <Beseiged> oops ifnore that
[01:58] <Vilhelms> Anyone else that can give tim167 a hand?
[01:58] <Beseiged> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:58] <Beseiged> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:58] <Vilhelms> sudo
[01:59] <Vilhelms> Beseiged, sudo before the command
[01:59] <Beseiged> yea my bad there
[01:59] <tim167> anyone  know what " waiting for root file system" followed by "device not accepting addres 2, error -71" signifies ( ubuntu wont boot )
[01:59] <Beseiged> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:59] <Q_Continuum> "Make me a sandwich." "Make yourself a sandwich." "sudo make me a sandwich" "okay"
[01:59] <EpicUser> mmm, sandwich
[01:59] <Q_Continuum> mmm sandwich indeed.
[02:00] <barbarella> Beseiged:and -f install
[02:00] <Vilhelms> I am having a problem where World of Warcraft has bad FPS and after about a minute hangs, as well as my whole PC and can't seem to find a solution for it. Here is some output related to my video card, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5608/. Does anyone have any idea of what I could try?
[02:00] <Beseiged> that was the out put from sudo apt-get -f install
[02:00] <casey_> what is the graphics line again plz?
[02:00] <JamesG> Anyone have any suggested alternatives to gnome-screensaver? I keep having problems like I'll come back to my desk after being away for a while, and it's caused a problem where the mouse has stopped working and I can't switch to other apps with the keyboard. The only solution is to ssh in from another box and kill the gnome-screensaver process.
[02:00] <nikos> barbarella pls the last help
[02:01] <tim167> i have an ubuntu installation that stalls at 'waiting for root file system' it says : "device not accepting addres 2, error -71", after a while (in recovery mode) it says: "can't access tty; job control turned off" any ideas ?
[02:01] <barbarella> Beseiged:what does a apt-cache search ubuntu say?
[02:01] <Biovore> JamesG: set the screensaver to non GL ones..
[02:01] <barbarella> Beseiged:what does an apt-cache search ubuntu say?
[02:01] <Err_> how do i get a resolution above 1024x760?
[02:01] <JamesG> Biovore: It's not using a GL one. It's set to cycle photos.
[02:01] <Beseiged> many many things
[02:01] <barbarella> ok
[02:01] <Biovore> JamesG: him intressting..  try a blank screen...
[02:02] <Beseiged> do you need me to expand on that?
[02:02] <cypherdelic> Any encryption expert here??
[02:02] <Biovore> JamesG: the gnome system uses xscreensaver for screensaver..
[02:02] <JamesG> Biovore: Not by default in ubuntu it doesn't
[02:02] <tarelerulz> if you have wireless hard should getting your ip and so on from the dhcp should that work or do you have to manuelly config it
[02:03] <tim167> my ubuntu installation is broken, it hangs at 'waiting for root file system' in recovery mode i can see : "device not accepting addres 2, error -71", after a while it says: "can't access tty; job control turned off" any ideas ? thanks
[02:03] <beg1689> i still havent gotten my wireless to work
[02:03] <GaiaX11> Err_: If you have a card which supports that. Do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose that :-)
[02:03] <beg1689> i have to switch to windows for tha damn thing
[02:04] <GaiaX11> beg1689: Have you tried ndiswrapper to set your card up?
[02:05] <barbarella> Beseiged:van you pastebin your error agian when you do update
[02:05] <tim167> ok other question then: how do i install ubuntu leaving a previously installed version intact so i can keep all files from that ?
[02:05] <Beseiged> if it matters i modified my source and sources .list because i didn't know which one to update
[02:05] <pbureau> tim167, dont reformat the partitions when reinstalling
[02:05] <jellobean> tim, I am having the same problem with the can't access tty....do you have any other OS's installed on your computer?
[02:06] <Being> just use the free space
[02:06] <barbarella> Beseiged:still it does.
[02:06] <cypherdelic> Any encryption expert here??
[02:06] <tim167>  jellobean: yes
[02:06] <GaiaX11> Beseiged: source.list
[02:06] <Biovore> cypherdelic: what you doing with encryption?
[02:06] <tim167>  jellobean: i have another ubuntu which also doesnt work, and i also docked + nested a dynebolic on this dirve
[02:06] <frogzoo> tim167: if /home is on a separate partition, backup all /etc & /var if you need it should do it
[02:07] <jellobean> my disk works fine on my old computer with Win xp on it...but stops on the computer with no OS
[02:07] <cypherdelic> Being,
[02:07] <Vilhelms> I am having a problem where World of Warcraft has bad FPS and after about a minute hangs, as well as my whole PC and can't seem to find a solution for it. Here is some output related to my video card, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5608/. Does anyone have any idea of what I could try?
[02:07] <beg1689> GaiaX11: actually, my card worked out of the box (used kubuntu install 6.10)
[02:07] <beg1689> but when i set up my LAN, i couldnt get the wireless to connect anymore
[02:07] <tim167> frogzoo: /home is not a separate partition
[02:07] <cypherdelic> Beseiged, i try to encrypt my root partition
[02:07] <Being> cypherdelic		B
[02:07] <linxeh> Vilhelms: get a proper graphics card
[02:07] <linxeh> :)
[02:07] <frogzoo> tim167: that's a shame, you'll need to back it up then
[02:07] <beg1689> when i check with iwconfig it says 97% and my router lists me as a client
[02:07] <beg1689> but i get no internet
[02:08] <jellobean> does anyone know what tty stands for??
[02:08] <cafuego_> teletype
[02:08] <frogzoo> jellobean: teletype
[02:08] <Biovore> Vilhelms: That output looks fine...
[02:08] <beg1689> any ideas?
[02:08] <Beseiged> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5656/
[02:08] <jellobean> thanks
[02:08] <Vilhelms> Biovore, So what you're saying is that its probably a problem with wine?
[02:08] <linxeh> Vilhelms: what card do you have ?
[02:08] <frogzoo> jellobean: it's a legacy, to say the least
[02:08] <brrrt> how can i unmute my notebook speakers?   when i use the newest feisty kernel i cannot control the notebook speakers :( but it works with older feisty kernels
[02:08] <Vilhelms> linxeh, ATI Xpress 200
[02:08] <tim167> frogzoo: you dont happen to know how to fix my other problem ? (the device not accepting addres 2, error -71 one )
[02:08] <th1> I have just updated the lm-sensors package with the latest upstream version, so it now detects my sensors.. should I submit this to ubuntu and if so how?
[02:09] <Biovore> beg1689: do you get an IP from DHCP?
[02:09] <linxeh> Vilhelms: I'm running WoW on an AMD64 machine using an Nvidia 6600GT pci express card, but using Cedega rather than wine
[02:09] <beg1689> i think so
[02:09] <GaiaX11> beg1689: have you double checked ip number, dns, essid, etc ...?
[02:09] <Biovore> Vilhelms: wine is very complex..
[02:09] <linxeh> Vilhelms: I havent tried Wine by itself yet
[02:09] <cypherdelic> Beseiged, do you know anything about that?
[02:09] <beg1689> i can try right now but ill lose IRC
[02:09] <beg1689> it drops my local connection when i do it
[02:09] <Vilhelms> linxeh, Cedega is the one you pay for, right?
[02:09] <linxeh> Vilhelms: yeah
[02:09] <Vilhelms> linxeh, Is there a way I could try to see if I can get it working with like a trial version or something?
[02:09] <frogzoo> tim167: is this a usb drive?
[02:10] <linxeh> Vilhelms: some people say that crossover office has less problems
[02:10] <shatrat> Vilhelms, I ran wow in wine no problem
[02:10] <tim167> frogwoo: nope, its the drive that has ubuntu installed on it
[02:10] <linxeh> Vilhelms: you can get a 30 day trial of crossover - might be worth a go
[02:10] <shatrat> Vilhelms, if you havent tried that yet.
[02:10] <Beseiged> cypher i am sorry, but i don't knwo what question your are regerring to
[02:10] <beg1689> im gonna try again right now
[02:10] <Vilhelms> linxeh, I think I will
[02:10] <Vilhelms> shatrat, Do you have problems chaging your video preferences in game?
[02:10] <linxeh> Vilhelms: is your PC overclocked ?
[02:10] <Vilhelms> linxeh, No, its a laptop
[02:11] <gpd> any idea where samba stores the password file?
[02:11] <frogzoo> tim167: try a search of launchpad if you haven't yet
[02:11] <sable> When I run this command for wine: /configure CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector
[02:11] <linxeh> Vilhelms: ahh - I've yet to get the fglrx driver to work on my laptop :(
[02:11] <shatrat> Vilhelms, well, I sold my account a couple months ago, but I didn't then.  There is a whole wine how-to linked in the ubuntuforums.org gaming area though, addresses all the common issues
[02:11] <sable> I get: /configure CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector
[02:11] <cypherdelic> Beseiged, Im using cryptsetup, after startup i get output: "no cryptroot configured, skipping"
[02:11] <Biovore> yeah cedega is your better bet
[02:11] <Biovore> www.transgamming.com I think
[02:11] <Biovore> cost money, but there some real support with it..
[02:11] <linxeh> I've got a flipping Radeon M300 in this laptop and its a right PITA
[02:11] <tim167> frogzoo : what's launchpad ?
[02:11] <sable> err, checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[02:11] <Beseiged> oh i don't
[02:11] <sable> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[02:11] <Vilhelms> shatrat, I tried that and I still have problems :(
[02:11] <sable> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[02:11] <sable> checking for gcc... gcc
[02:11] <sable> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[02:11] <sable> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:11] <Vilhelms> shatrat, I'm going to give cedega a try
[02:12] <Beseiged> i've been using ubuntu about a day and i used debian through commandline for about a week
[02:12] <linxeh> Vilhelms: I dont think you can get a trial of it
[02:12] <linxeh> i might be wrong though
[02:12] <barbarella> Beseiged:are you using the console?
[02:12] <Beseiged> yes
[02:12] <shatrat> Vilhelms, ok, but cedega is basically a fork off wine.  Still, you can get their supported full version for 3 months for like 15 bucks.
[02:12] <frogzoo> gpd: /var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb
[02:12] <shatrat> Vilhelms, and its supposed to performa bit better
[02:12] <linxeh> shatrat: cedega is really nice and easy though :)
[02:12] <Beseiged> well terminal right?
[02:12] <Vilhelms> shatrat, Yeah thats what I've heard
[02:12] <gpd> frogzoo: thanks :D
[02:12] <Vilhelms> shatrat, and I understand its just a fork off of wine
[02:12] <pjz_> wow, that was... weird
[02:12] <linxeh> at least cedega push money back into wine
[02:13] <pjz_> my USB mouse refused to work... until I plugged in a PS/2 mouse
[02:13] <sable> When I run this command for wine: /configure CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector
[02:13] <Beseiged> i am also using sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list to modify list
[02:13] <shatrat> Vilhelms, it forked a long time ago though, its significantly different now, but I thnk the biggest advantage is that you cang et support for it.
[02:13] <sable> I get: checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[02:13] <linxeh> shatrat: I thought it was just a set of python scripts and patches to core wine ?
[02:13] <sable> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[02:13] <sable> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[02:13] <Vilhelms> shatrat, I will give it a try for 3months and see if its worth it :)
[02:13] <sable> checking for gcc... gcc
[02:14] <sable> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[02:14] <sable> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:14] <sable> Any Ideas why?
[02:14] <beg1689> ok, how can i test if my wireless works
[02:14] <Biovore> sable: apt-get install build-essential
[02:14] <barbarella> Beseiged:what does a sudo aptitude update say?
[02:14] <Biovore> sable: no compile installed
[02:14] <beg1689> i think its connected but if i unplug my LAN i dont have internet anymore
[02:14] <shatrat> linxeh, I thought the changes weren't that superficial, maybe youre right though.
[02:14] <sable> biovore: I already have build essentials installed
[02:15] <linxeh> shatrat: I'm probably totally wrong :)
[02:15] <Beseiged> i get done up to and including building tag datbase and then err and ign the rest of the way until it says reading package lists... done
[02:15] <beg1689> heres my iwconfig: http://rafb.net/p/zWULhN59.html
[02:15] <trevor> I think my HDD has some errors or bad blocks. When installed I sometimes recieve an error telling me that there are no disk drives present to install onto. I reboot and the message goes away sometimes and will start to install. If i cancel the install (to test for the error message) it appears again a few times. Is this a cause of a hard drive failing?/ If so, how can I test my hard drive for failures?
[02:16] <linxeh> trevor: I'd just toss it away, but I've been stung by bad drives in the past so I would say that
[02:16] <trevor> so you think its the drive linxeh?
[02:17] <tim167> can anyone help me ?: ubuntu wont start, it hags at 'waiting for root file system'. If I start in recovery mode i can see:  "device not accepting address 2, error -71".
[02:17] <frogzoo> trevor: install smartmontools
[02:17] <frogzoo> tim167: try a search of launchpad if you haven't yet
[02:17] <trevor> frogzoo: I did, smart is not avail on this machine it says
[02:17] <mapez> Guys, whhy should I go for Ubuntu and not Debian?
[02:17] <trevor> Device does not support SMART when i run smartctl
[02:17] <GaiaX11> beg1689: do you have the networking icon in your panel?
[02:18] <frogzoo> mapez: why indeed
[02:18] <shatrat> mapez, it's more fun to say?  better support?  newer packages?
[02:18] <_3oo3> mapez:  Actually I hear the ubuntu is african for 'I dont get debian'
[02:18] <bruenig> chucke
[02:18] <mapez> I was just wondering the major differences.
[02:18] <_3oo3> mapez:  its like xp...
[02:18] <tim167> frogzoo https://launchpad.net/ ?
[02:18] <frogzoo> mapez: the ubuntu install is easier to setup
[02:18] <Beseiged> like xp that i can run simple updates on >.>
[02:18] <Beseiged> can't*
[02:19] <sable> Any other ideas Biovore?
[02:19] <bruenig> mapez, ubuntu is easier and isn't as flawed as debian is
[02:19] <jcole> how can i have wget not download a file but ONLY the headers?
[02:19] <GaiaX11> beg1689: If not, right click the panel and add the icon on it. So it will tell you if the card is on
[02:19] <frogzoo> tim167: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:19] <Biovore> sable: gcc -version
[02:19] <_3oo3> less functionality, less stability, easier to use, no thought required, don't do anything outside of preset intentions on the developer's side, as opposed to being the antithesis of a tool.
[02:19] <mapez> bruenig: flawed? I'm looking to make the jump sometime.
[02:19] <sable> Biovore: gcc: unrecognized option '-version'
[02:19] <sable> gcc: no input files
[02:20] <Biovore> sable: gcc --version
[02:20] <_3oo3> mapez:  do the PCBSD if you want wasy and funcitonal....ubuntu is more like a 'trying out linux for the first time' os, and I wouldn't recommend it for that, even.
[02:20] <bruenig> _3oo3, you are retarded. If you aren't able to fit ubuntu to your needs, you have to be the most ignorant human being I have seen.
[02:20] <Biovore> sorry :-P
[02:20] <sable> gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[02:20] <bruenig> _3oo3, the preset people who don't know much can use it, but if you are this dominant power user you present yourself as being, certainly you can customize it
[02:20] <Biovore> sable: what are you compiling?
[02:20] <cafuego_> bruenig/_3oo3: do you mind?
[02:20] <mapez> _3oo3: I'm not looking for easy.. I'm looking for something to kill time with.
[02:20] <frogzoo> bruenig: now now
[02:20] <sable> I don't know, I'm setting up eve to work with wine
[02:20] <_3oo3> mapez:  freebsd
[02:21] <sable> This is the command I'm using:  sudo ./configure CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector
[02:21] <shatrat> mapez, ubuntu is a great place to start because of the huge userbase and package availability.  Dont mind the trolls.
[02:21] <_3oo3> bruenig: its not my fault youre loyal to an os that does less for you than mine does for me ;)
[02:21] <linxeh> trevor: how old is the drive?
[02:21] <shatrat> _3oo3, yours seems to seriously have harmed your personality
[02:21] <shatrat> _3oo3, think Ill steer clear of that
[02:21] <Biovore> sable: should work.....
[02:21] <cafuego_> STOP TROLLING!
[02:21] <_3oo3> shatrat: what do you mean
[02:21] <sable> Yeah, that's my problem :(
[02:22] <Biovore> sable: what package you tring to compile?
[02:22] <bruenig> _3oo3, you are ridiculous man. If you want to do something on ubuntu you can. I can do anything on ubuntu that I can do on any other linux distro. It is setup easier for those who aren't as experienced. But for those who are, you can still do whatever you want, it is linux after all.
[02:22] <chorse> sable: put that CFLAG stuff BEFORE the ./configure
[02:22] <trevor> linxeh: about a year, maybe.
[02:22] <tim167> ok ill have to reinstall once again, i'm not going to get this fixed :-/
[02:22] <HymnToLife> bruenig, please don't feed the troll
[02:22] <Biovore> sable: that might do it.. or make it a shell variable
[02:22] <bruenig> ok
[02:23] <sable> Command not found
[02:23] <GigaClon> This is an Ubuntu support channel _3oo3 so either support ubuntu or ask a question or leave
[02:23] <_3oo3> bruenig: why Linux?  Its an inferior platform...and why ubuntu?  I mean....opensuse hits both ends of ubuntu's spectrums, and its support is better.
[02:23] <HymnToLife> !ops | _3oo3 is trolling
[02:23] <ubotu> _3oo3 is trolling: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:23] <pungie> I am a bit of a newbie, I had dapper running great, my wifi card worked out of hte box... I did a software upgrade to edgty  and new my wireless nic doesn't show up and I have no clue what to do
[02:23] <Biovore> sable: export CFLAGS=<>  then try a ./configure --prefix=/usr
[02:23] <linxeh> trevor: hmm, what make ? I've found hitachi/ibm drives and maxtor drives to be really nasty over the last couple of years
[02:23] <Centaur5> I have a lock on totem and it won't let me take it off.  How can I force that?
[02:23] <Beseiged> are there any ports i need to open for apt-get update? it just looks like port 80 to me which is open
[02:23] <cafuego_> LjL: thanks
[02:23] <lolole> anyone here with a wacom tablet?
[02:23] <mapez> Sorry for starting a huge war here guys :S I'm 'peacing out'
[02:23] <sable> Biovore: et up the wine compile environment (the CFLAGS is essential!) and build.
[02:23] <sable> That is the step I am on
[02:23] <luzylee> cafuego: hello
[02:23] <barbarella> Beseiged:it tries to get some packages, witch are not there, that is your miner issue.
[02:24] <trevor> linxeh: maxtor :/
[02:24] <shatrat> at least it wasnt malformed DCC requests this time
[02:24] <luzylee> LjL: wow, that was quick :/
[02:24] <trevor> linxeh: im not sure what it is, it sounds hdd'ish to me
[02:24] <frogzoo> Biovore: why are you compiling wine?
[02:24] <sable> Biovore: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[02:24] <Beseiged> it either fails, ignores, or errors my package. i that is more like all then "some"
[02:24] <linxeh> trevor: hmm. ive had problems like you are having with the controller has started to die too, and when the cable is dodgy
[02:24] <cafuego_> luzylee: heya. related to suzy? ;-)
[02:24] <barbarella> Beseiged:that's what i read from your output
[02:24] <luzylee> cafuego: same
[02:24] <lolole> any way to adjust sensitivity on a wacom tablet?
[02:25] <luzylee> cafuego: I found some data If I may show you
[02:25] <lolole> it is very reactive to my styles
[02:25] <lolole> *stylus
[02:25] <lolole> and also, the mouse sometimes jumps when i reach the top
[02:25] <Ztripez> any1 here using lirc under edgy?
[02:25] <trevor> linxeh: I tried several cables.
[02:25] <cafuego_> luzylee: Sure... if it's a lot, plonk it on a pastebin.
[02:25] <trevor> and a new mobo.
[02:25] <sable> Biovore: Should I try to reinstall gcc?
[02:25] <trevor> conclusion -- HDD. I tried ram even
[02:26] <linxeh> trevor: yeah, I would assume the HDD. I try and replace all of my drives within a year, and sell them as secondhand
[02:26] <linxeh> trevor: IMO domestic IDE drives are absolute rubbish :(
[02:26] <pungie> I am a bit of a newbie, I had dapper running great, my wifi card worked out of hte box... I did a software upgrade to edgty  and new my wireless nic doesn't show up and I have no clue what to do
[02:26] <tim167> so my only option is: backup all my files, erase partitions, install ubuntu, install all programs search for all dependancies, , all over again, pfff how i hate this :-/
[02:26] <luzylee> cafuego_: I pasted for you in other channel
[02:26] <HymnToLife> funny, _3oo3 continues his badmouthing in ##freebsd
[02:27] <trevor> linxeh: mines a ata 2
[02:27] <HymnToLife> and is quite proud of it, actually
[02:27] <linxeh> trevor: at work we only keep drives for 9-11 months before they are replaced
[02:27] <Ztripez> noone?
[02:27] <linxeh> in critical systems anyway
[02:27] <frogzoo> tim167: create a separate /home this time
[02:27] <GaiaX11> pungie: Is your card working?
[02:27] <trevor> linxeh: ahh
[02:27] <pungie> GaiaX11: yes, it worked prior to the upgrade to Edgy... running iwconfig say no wireless extensions
[02:28] <pungie> I think somiethng in the upgrade, broke something?
[02:28] <tim167> frogzoo: will do, ubuntu should by default
[02:28] <frogzoo> tim167: agreed
[02:28] <pungie> ah
[02:28] <GaiaX11> pungie: I mean in edgy. Is it working?
[02:28] <sable> BIovore: I reinstalled gcc, and same thing, it still says the compiler cannot make executables.  Any other ideas?
[02:29] <Camo`_`> Hi  can someone help me with vpnc on KUBUNTU?
[02:29] <pungie> hmm, it doesn't appear but I just typed: modprod ath_pci and now in iwconfig it shows up
[02:29] <LjL> sable: i assume you have build-essential installed?
[02:29] <frogzoo> sable: did you install build-essential ?
[02:29] <Biovore> sable: hmmm
[02:29] <LjL> sable: are you... compiling WINE?
[02:29] <Biovore> frogzoo: (he did)
[02:29] <shatrat> pungie, its a pretty common problem, I dont have a wireless card much less the same model as you.  Its because of the kernel updgrade most likely,  check out this thread for example.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2137436
[02:29] <sable> LjL and frogzoo: yes
[02:29] <theidiotthatisme> Hey hopefully you guys can help me with something. Right now, I have Suse, Ubuntu, and Windows installed on my laptop. I want to get rid of Suse and append the partition to Ubuntu, however the Grub that is currently used is Suse's. Is there a simple way to make Ubuntu's the grub that is used?
[02:29] <Biovore> sable: wine is funky...
[02:30] <pungie> shatrat, thanks. I just did the modprob and it works now... Do I need to do that on every reboot?
[02:30] <sable> I don't know what I'm doing, I'm jsut following directions,  I'm installing eve/wine
[02:30] <Camo`_`> I'm having trouble connecting to my school's wireless with Kvpnc... I imported the cisco vpn file from the vpn client I have on windows but it still doesnt work
[02:30] <frogzoo> Biovore: sable no need to compile wine - just use the latest from the budgetdedicated repo
[02:30] <GaiaX11> pungie: can you surf the net?
[02:30] <Camo`_`> it connects me, but i can't get on any websites does anyone know what's wrong?
[02:30] <LjL> sable, i don't know if you need a specific version of WINE or whatever for some reason -- but you do know that WINE is available from the repositories, and compiled?
[02:30] <LjL> !wine
[02:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:30] <LjL> !info wine
[02:30] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[02:31] <sable> I have to compile because If you dont add the cflags then when you try to run wine you'll just get "Segmentation fault. Core dumped."
[02:31] <pschulz01_> !ssh-agent
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh-agent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <frogzoo> sable: with 0.9.30 ?
[02:31] <Camo`_`> I'm having trouble connecting to my school's wireless with Kvpnc... I imported the cisco vpn file from the vpn client I have on windows but it still doesnt work... it connects me, but i can't get on any websites does anyone know what's wrong?
[02:31] <sable> if I already downloaded wine, and tried to compile it, did it "install"? Or can I just delete the direcvtory
[02:32] <pfein> how can I get tomboy to use Konqueror instead of Firefox?
[02:32] <pschulz01_> How do I set up ssh-agent within gnone?
[02:32] <LjL> sable: eh, no, if you never typed make install, it did not install
[02:32] <jellobean> my live cd won't boot up....where can i get a copy to install it directly on my hard drive
[02:32] <Ferret> sable: in the tools directory there used to be a script called wine-installer or similar
[02:32] <sable> Frogzoo: I guess im not using newest, im using 0.9.23
[02:32] <trainer_> I'm trying to install from the live cd, and the partitioner hangs. my /etc/fstab has only unionfs and tmpfs, is it not detecting my hd?
[02:33] <frogzoo> sable: 0.9.30 is on the budgetdedicated repo, also, check appdb for wine problems
[02:33] <frogzoo> !wine | sable
[02:33] <ubotu> sable: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:33] <frogzoo> !appdb | sable
[02:33] <ubotu> sable: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:33] <GaiaX11> jellobean: Why not? Did it boot up before?
[02:33] <sable> K, I'll try some more and I'll be back if it still does not work
[02:33] <holycow> trainer_, yeah that is very common indeed sir.  its buggy.  install ubuntu using the alternate iso ... it uses d-i the terrific text based installer
[02:33] <sable> What is the command for removing a directorty even though it's full?  I thought it was rmdir -r
[02:33] <jellobean> it boots up on my old computer...but not my new one....tells me "/bin/sh: can't access tty;job control turned off
[02:33] <jellobean> (initramfs)_
[02:34] <Beseiged> if  i have version 6.06 and do sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade i should be able to upgrade from 6.06 correct?
[02:34] <GaiaX11> sable: rm -rf
[02:34] <trainer_> holycow, alternate iso? i have to burn a new cd?
[02:34] <Daemonic> OMG! ubotu! I'm a big fan of your work!
[02:34] <YelloJello> hey i need a way so i can get my account to be root
[02:34] <YelloJello> not using sudo
[02:34] <Camo`_`> type sudo man
[02:35] <Camo`_`> oh :(
[02:35] <Camo`_`> I'm having trouble connecting to my school's wireless with Kvpnc... I imported the cisco vpn file from the vpn client I have on windows but it still doesnt work... it connects me, but i can't get on any websites does anyone know what's wrong?
[02:35] <frogzoo> YelloJello: you most likely don't - use sudo
[02:35] <Linkmasta23> hi
[02:35] <holycow> trainer_, its a separate cd yes.  just note that the live cd is brand new idea for installing an os, ubuntu was the first to do it, but the modifications made to the partitioner are very buggy and i helkp people with your situation a lot.  so yeah try the alternate for now.  the live cd will improve.
[02:35] <Linkmasta23> !microsoft
[02:35] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:35] <jellobean> gaiaX11, it boots up on my old computer...but not my new one....tells me "/bin/sh: can't access tty;job control turned off (inittramfs)
[02:35] <frogzoo> YelloJello: sudo -i
[02:35] <YelloJello> DOES ANYONE WANT TO TELL ME HOW TO GET AN ROOT ACCOUNT UNDER A CURRENT USER
[02:35] <holycow> !caps
[02:36] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:36] <holycow> thank you
[02:36] <frogzoo> YelloJello: no
[02:37] <sable> When I install something from the prepo's, where does it install it to?
[02:37] <Linkmasta23> is caps really bad around here?
[02:37] <GaiaX11> jellobean: I had some problems like that another day. I water washed the cd cleaned it and it worked. Try that before downloading a new .iso  Perhaps it still works :-)
[02:37] <holycow> Linkmasta23, they are bad everywhere
[02:37] <GigaClon> caps is bad in the internet
[02:38] <holycow> its an internet convention
[02:38] <GigaClon> caps = shouting
[02:38] <qwerty967> what's the best media plugin for firefox? is it mplayer?
[02:38] <atomiku-linux> caps = serious business
[02:38] <Asc__> sable: you can check the files it installs by right-clicking on the package, selecting 'properties' and going to the 'installed files' tab
[02:38] <jellobean> gaiax11, thanks, isn't it weird that it works on my other computer though?
[02:38] <shatrat> qwerty967, I like mplayer, I dont know how one defines "best" though
[02:38] <Biovore> qwerty967: I have good luck with the mplayer pluggin here..
[02:38] <bruenig> !best
[02:38] <pfein> how can I get gnome apps to use konqueror (I'm a KDE user)?
[02:38] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:39] <Linkmasta23> i knolw that but is it worth booting someone from irc?
[02:39] <Linkmasta23> know
[02:39] <atomiku-linux> yes
[02:39] <atomiku-linux> its worth booting someone from irc
[02:39] <atomiku-linux> because its annoying and noobish
[02:39] <sable> Anyone here good with wine?
[02:39] <YelloJello> lasse_: Can u tell me how i was talking to you the other day
[02:39] <shatrat> Linkmasta23, booting someone? Id kill someone with a hatchet just for misusing their/they're/there
[02:39] <LjL> Linkmasta23: especially if coupled with his attitude. anyway, let's keep on topic.
[02:39] <qwerty967> i'm trying to stream a video, and the totem one doesn't work with this stream... i'm trying mplayer, but the two seem to conflict
[02:39] <frogzoo> sable: did you install from budgetdedicated yet?
[02:39] <stinger_au> HELP:  i just installed kde-core and my kcontrolcenter is empty
[02:39] <atomiku-linux> shatrat: me too
[02:39] <qwerty967> how do i disable totem plugin?
[02:39] <audimage> Hello, do any of you know how to recover an Ubuntu partition? I've installed windows, but cannot get grub to load. I am using the livecd now
[02:39] <sable> Frogzoo: I installed with the package manager
[02:40] <Biovore> atomiku-linux: apt-get install kde-base
[02:40] <GaiaX11> jellobean: if you do what I said you will not loose any data. But it is up to you
[02:40] <LjL> !grub > audimage    (audimage, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:40] <holycow> Linkmasta23, i didn't see the rest of his posts so hard to judge
[02:40] <frogzoo> sable: go back, read the wine docs, enable the budgetdedicated repo & try again
[02:40] <frogzoo> !wine | sable
[02:40] <ubotu> sable: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:40] <theidiotthatisme> !grub > theidiotthatisme
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> hey all. i have wireless internet working via ndiswrapper with my broadcom card... mainly, anyways. i'm able to connect to most wireless networks, except those at my school. whenever i try to connect to any of my school's networks, i get an error that the "ip could not be found"
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> anyone know what this is about?
[02:40] <YelloJello> please tell me how to become  a root user?
[02:41] <LjL> YelloJello: you *have* a root account available under you current user (if you installed a default Ubuntu). just type "sudo -i", and there you are at a root login.
[02:41] <GigaClon> why do you need to be?
[02:41] <GaiaX11> FantasticFoo: try to ping your school host before
[02:41] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: huh?
[02:41] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: how?
[02:41] <Dabian> A quick quistion from the hip --- which card- or usb-"wifi-thing" do I want for Ubuntu most likely?
[02:42] <bard> LjL, isn't "sudo su" faster
[02:42] <sable> frogzoo: W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[02:42] <jellobean> gaiax11, i have no data on my new comp, i haven
[02:42] <LjL> bard: .......?
[02:42] <qwerty967> does anyone know how i disable totem? i tried to remove just the plugin and i see it's part of ubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <GaiaX11> FantasticFoo: ping ipschollnumber
[02:42] <Pooky> You know what would be cool, if there was a recommended hardware page on the ubuntu site. Like, if you buy XYZ, you'll have a trouble free install.
[02:42] <Dabian> Pooky : I agree!
[02:42] <LjL> bard: it's the same number of characters, if that's what you mean. besides that, "sudo su" it totally redundant, as "sudo" and "su" are both commands to switch users, and "sudo" is perfectly capable of doing it by itself
[02:42] <Pooky> Buy x, get a fairly standard workstation, buy y, get a beryl steampowered desktop, etc.
[02:43] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: and by "ipschollnumber" you mean their ip address right?
[02:43] <GaiaX11> jellobean: I meant not your comp, but your cd
[02:43] <zeeeeeee> help - i was running update-manager to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, but it had tons of errors for some reason (ubuntu had otherwise been running smoothly). i decided to try again by rebooting, but now my system's completely hosed - i can't start gnome, i barely figured out how to get wifi working from the cli, and i can't even start vi because of missing shared libs.
[02:43] <FudgeYou> does anyone know how to hack wifi encription
[02:43] <TylerDurden> hi, my firefox refuses to boot up, it often crashes and i have to restart to get it back up again. but i'm wgetting something right now, is there a way to "kill" firefox so i can use it again? (but i don't see it in sys terminal)
[02:43] <Pooky> Cause I need to get a new laptop for work, and I want to get something that unlike my macbook with linux, works worth a damn.
[02:43] <GaiaX11> FantasticFoo: yes
[02:43] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: k
[02:43] <calvarez> FudgeYou, why>
[02:43] <calvarez> ?
[02:43] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: and how does that help me? what should i do with the output
[02:43] <zeeeeeee> any hope of rescuing my laptop from this situation?
[02:43] <sable> FudgeYou:  What type of encription?
[02:43] <holycow> FudgeYou, wrong question for the wrong channel
[02:43] <calvarez> zeeeeeee, yes, fresh install
[02:43] <holycow> please take that to google
[02:43] <Dabian> Pooky: Buy Z .. get a broken system that will run like Royal Rouge if you manage to get it working.
[02:44] <FudgeYou> fbecause my school they encripted it and wont let students use it
[02:44] <Pooky> Dabian, is there even like, a supported hardware list anywhere?
[02:44] <zeeeeeee> calvarez: really? that's it?
[02:44] <holycow> Pooky, yes on the wiki
[02:44] <shatrat> TylerDurden, killall firefox or maybe killall firefox-bin
[02:44] <Dabian> Pooky : SOmething like that ..
[02:44] <calvarez> zeeeeeee, hmm, if you want a very reliable installation, yes
[02:44] <Dabian> holycow !!
[02:44] <GaiaX11> FantasticFoo: If it pings, you have to set up your school host to accept your home ip connection there
[02:44] <Dabian> holycow : Didn't you run Debian some time back?
[02:44] <shatrat> TylerDurden, but im sure there must be some solution to your problem, maybe you have an older flash plugin and your homepage has flash in it?  When firefox crashes the #1 suspect is flash imo
[02:44] <calvarez> zeeeeeee, if you could fix it reliably, you wouldn't be asking how to do it, so I strongly recommend a fresh install
[02:44] <holycow> Dabian, nope, i wish
[02:45] <TylerDurden> shatrat, it says there is no process to be killed
[02:45] <Dabian> holycow : OK .. I thought I saw you in a debian help channel once.
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> GaiaX11: hmm
[02:45] <holycow> Dabian, ah i'm there always actually
[02:45] <zeeeeeee> sigh...ok
[02:45] <Dabian> LjL: Just ban all of AOL .. most are bad anyhow.
[02:45] <LjL> heh
[02:45] <TylerDurden> shatrat, my homepage is google, it usually crashes randomly, for example i just opened a screenshot this time and it crashed, when trying to open it just tries to load it for 15 seconds and then dies
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> ok
[02:45] <calvarez> why was yellojello banned?
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> time to do homework
[02:45] <LjL> anyway yellojello and fudgeyou were clones, for those wondering.
[02:45] <FantasticFoo> bye guys
[02:46] <calvarez> oh
[02:46] <LjL> calvarez: see above.
[02:46] <holycow> actually i want to know also
[02:46] <calvarez> LjL, is it against the rules to have multiple instances connected from the same computer?
[02:46] <audimage> LjL I followed the instructions, however grub returned this:
[02:46] <audimage> grub> setup (hd0,5)
[02:46] <audimage>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[02:46] <audimage>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[02:46] <audimage>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[02:46] <audimage>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[02:46] <Dabian> calvarez : Darn aol users.
[02:46] <audimage>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,5)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[02:46] <audimage>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,5) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu
[02:46] <audimage> .lst "... failed
[02:46] <DARKGuy> Ahhhh
[02:46] <DARKGuy> !paste
[02:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:46] <shatrat> TylerDurden, that is odd, its quite stable for me across all my OSes.  Im not sure where to start to try and diagnose a firefox crash,  perhaps try reinstalling, perhaps a different version
[02:46] <LjL> calvarez: no, but when both connected users are troll, you're quite likely to get a ban.
[02:46] <LjL> anyway, this is offtopic.
[02:46] <Mena> Is there a best a progarm to dowenload files from  the inernet
[02:47] <calvarez> makes sense. Thanks
[02:47] <TylerDurden> shatrat, i dont know either, but it's ok, im reinstallting tomorrow anyhow, i've had a bunch of problems so far
[02:47] <mrbrdo> i've got a problem with the nvidia drivers..
[02:47] <holycow> mrbrdo, just ask
[02:47] <GaiaX11> Mena: which kind of files?
[02:47] <mrbrdo> wait, i'm writing ;)
[02:47] <calvarez> TylerDurden, usually crashes are plugin problem
[02:47] <GaiaX11> Mena: .deb ?
[02:47] <Mena> any files
[02:48] <Dabian> holycow: Are you by any chance using wifi?
[02:48] <Mena> i mean an internet dowenload manger as IDM
[02:48] <calvarez> TylerDurden, try uninstalling firefox, then delete /home/<your_user_name>/.mozilla, then reinstall firefox
[02:48] <holycow> Dabian, not exactly sure what that means, i buy supported hardware and plug it in and go, so yes.
[02:48] <Dabian> holycow : I have an ASUS mobo .. but I can't the onboard wifi working (even though it should work) so I want to buy something better.
[02:48] <holycow> what chipset?
[02:48] <Asc__> mena - never used IDM, but I find aria's a nice download manager.
[02:48] <GaiaX11> Mena: do you already know apt-get and synaptic?
[02:48] <Dabian> holycow 590
[02:49] <calvarez> make sure you don't have multiple instances of a plugin installed. For example, I installed the Flash 9 plugin, and I didn't realize I still had Flash 7 plugin installed
[02:49] <Dabian> holycow nforce 590
[02:49] <Mena> Gaiiax11,yes
[02:49] <holycow> oh wait for a realease or two
[02:49] <holycow> chances are thats nforce 6
[02:49] <TylerDurden> is there any other browser in gnome that i could temporarly use? (outside of terminal-text ones)
[02:49] <holycow> thats not supported until a later kernel and backports for drivers are taking long
[02:49] <calvarez> TylerDurden, install epiphany
[02:49] <Dabian> holycow : I want to get rid of my cable ...
[02:49] <frogzoo> sable: anyway, did wine install ok, apart from the missing key?
[02:49] <holycow> get an extra supported peripheral in the meantime
[02:49] <holycow> or wait
[02:49] <shatrat> TylerDurden, well, you could install Opera
[02:49] <holycow> not worth trying to muck about manually unless your comfy compiling
[02:50] <calvarez> Epiphany, Opera, etc
[02:50] <TylerDurden> so there isn't one built in?
[02:50] <DARKGuy> I like Galeon
[02:50] <Dabian> holycow : I used to compile kernel myself .. but its too much work when you don't do it for the fun of it.
[02:50] <Asc__> opera's not in repos, last I checked
[02:50] <calvarez> Epiphany is the official GNOME web browser,  but it's usually not installed by default, firefox is
[02:51] <TylerDurden> calvarez, is there a way to run 2+ apt-gets at a time?
[02:51] <calvarez> hmm?
[02:51] <GaiaX11> Mena: do you know d4x?
[02:51] <frogzoo> TylerDurden: nope
[02:51] <brombomb> Anyone know where the setting to turn on/off accents using the " key?
[02:51] <calvarez> you can only run only one instance of dpkg at a time
[02:51] <TylerDurden> ok
[02:51] <calvarez> why, are you already running apt-get?
[02:51] <TylerDurden> yup
[02:52] <Clint-> evening all
[02:52] <Being> hi
[02:52] <calvarez> you're gonna have to wait until it's done :/
[02:52] <Dabian> calvarez : Make that "you're only supposed to run one instance of dpkg at a time". :)
[02:52] <Being> you know the menu list ,can the color be changes ?
[02:52] <mrbrdo> okay, i have a clean install of kubuntu amd64 edgy, i followed the instructions here: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy#Option_1: and installed the nvidia-glx drivers..
[02:52] <Clint-> need a bit of help
[02:52] <Being> changed?
[02:52] <Dabian> mrbrdo : Why?
[02:52] <Asc__> TylerDuren: sure.  type apt-get [operation]  [package one, package two, package n]  :p
[02:52] <GaiaX11> !ask | Clint
[02:52] <ubotu> Clint: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:52] <calvarez> Dabian, oh, every time I've tried to run several instances of dpkg, only the first one goes through because it locks the package database
[02:53] <Mena> Gaiiax11,YES
[02:53] <Clint-> i want to make some sort of batch file so that on double click it will launch terminal run ssh using host -l option and the pass option
[02:53] <mrbrdo> now i had a different problem just last restart, but now i'm getting FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such fil or directory
[02:53] <TylerDurden> Asc__ but i already have one instance running
[02:53] <mrbrdo> Dabian why?
[02:53] <Dabian> calvarez : Yeah .. you can do much in GNU/Linux though, to fool programmes.
[02:53] <Dabian> mrbrdo : Why did you follow those instructions?
[02:53] <calvarez> Dabian, well, I'm assuming typical, non-uber-1337-hacking usage here
[02:53] <mrbrdo> Dabian because i thought it'd work?
[02:53] <GaiaX11> Mena: Be more specific please
[02:53] <Asc__> tylerdurden: if it's just downloading, you can cancel it.  If it's installing, it won't take long to finish.
[02:53] <mrbrdo> Dabian better suggestion?
[02:53] <Dabian> calvarez : Right
[02:54] <Mena> Gaiiax11,yes but i am on kubuntu do you think it would work
[02:54] <Dabian> mrbrdo :  OK
[02:54] <mrbrdo> and i'll go on to try out beryl too so..
[02:54] <Mena> Gaiiax11,i know D4X i used it befor
[02:54] <GaiaX11> Mena: Where are you then?
[02:54] <Dabian> mrbrdo : I think there is a guide on the ubuntu wiki that actually works.
[02:54] <TylerDurden> Asc__ haha yeah of course I can, but when you spend 15 min downloading something you usually don't want to just cancel it.. just looking for an easy out is all
[02:54] <Mena> Gaiiax11,i am on kubuntu know and i dont like use kget
[02:54] <Mena> now*
[02:54] <Asc__> tylerdurden: Your download will resume
[02:54] <calvarez> mrbrdo, I followed the one on the beryl wiki and that one worked fine
[02:55] <TylerDurden> Asc__ how? just typing apt-get whateverpckage and it should resume?
[02:55] <corevette> so for mythtv....do you have to plug in a computer through a coaxial cabel?
[02:55] <GaiaX11> Mena: Did you like d4x?
[02:55] <calvarez> corevette, yes
[02:55] <Clint-> anyone?
[02:55] <Clint-> i want to make some sort of batch file so that on double click it will launch terminal run ssh using host -l option and the pass option
[02:55] <calvarez> corevette, you need to have a video capture or PVR card in your computer as well
[02:55] <Asc__> tylerdurden: Yeah.  Packages (and partially downloaded packages) are saved in a cache.  As long as you don't alt-get clean in the meantime, they'll still be there.
[02:56] <GaiaX11> Mena: if so, install it: sudo apt-get install d4x
[02:56] <corevette> calvarez...so would i have to buy a tvtuner card?
[02:56] <calvarez> yes
[02:56] <calvarez> I would suggest you get not just a TV tuner card, but rather a PVR card
[02:56] <Mena> Gaiiax11,yes but i wonder if there a program could make 16 conection while dowenloading like IDM so dowenloading would fast
[02:56] <calvarez> they have hardware decoding
[02:56] <Asc__> tylerdurden: (so yes; if you try to install it again, the download will resume from where you left off)
[02:56] <TylerDurden> Asc__, thanks ill keep that in mind next time
[02:57] <sable> When I run an application I installed into wine, it does nothing
[02:57] <calvarez> corevette, I would suggest 3 things: get familiar with the PVR software you want to install (MythTV, Freevo, etc) BEFORE you buy any equipment
[02:57] <sable> when I do it via shell, it just gives me > prompt
[02:57] <sable> Any ideas?
[02:57] <Mena> Gaiiax11,in way i guess i will use d4x
[02:57] <Biovore> sable: its crashing
[02:57] <Mena> any*
[02:57] <calvarez> corevette, 2) ask before you buy, the #mythtv-users channel is useful
[02:57] <prabu^> hi guys
[02:57] <corevette> how would i get familiar if i can't use it calvarez
[02:57] <sable> Yeah
[02:57] <Dabian> holycow : Is there USB-card that will work great here and now - pray'n'plug?
[02:57] <sable> Thought so, Eve is hard to get to work with linux
[02:58] <holycow> Dabian, lots of them, the wiki has a list of wireless supported devices
[02:58] <calvarez> corevette, 3) I've been recommended the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR150 or PVR-500 cards, they're the ones that work the best in l,inux
[02:58] <chris_> Hello
[02:58] <holycow> oh wait
[02:58] <holycow> lol
[02:58] <Mena> Gaiiax11,until i found any another download manger
[02:58] <holycow> usb card
[02:58] <Dabian> holycow : You have no personal expirice worth sharing?
[02:58] <holycow> no i don't know of any usb cards that work
[02:58] <calvarez> corevette, I mean, do some research before you buy equipment, make sure you understand how the system is going to work
[02:58] <sable> So how do I find out why it's crashing?
[02:58] <holycow> i thought you wrote pmci card
[02:58] <prabu^> i got a Q, i have 1 machine with a RAID1 and what we did is take the secondary HDD out from the array and put it in another machine as the primary and put another HDD in there and cloned all the 5 machines
[02:58] <holycow> Dabian, i haven't used usb network connections
[02:58] <Dabian> holocow: So .. any recommendation to pci (or pci-e) card?
[02:58] <prabu^> we got a problem now the NIC only works on the machine the image was made on
[02:59] <calvarez> corevette, if you just go buy a TV tuner card, you come back and then you go "OK, so what do I do now..." that's recipe for disaster
[02:59] <GaiaX11> Mena: Fast downloading has not to do with the program itself it has to do with your internet connection speed :-)
[02:59] <chris_> Is there currently any sort of workaround or fix for the Emblem problem with icon size >150%
[02:59] <Mena> Gaiiax11,i know
[02:59] <calvarez> corevette,  and 4) have lots of patience. If you use MythTV (with is the most feature-full PVR software there), installation and configuration is hard
[02:59] <hansent_> corvette, I use a Hauppauge PVR250 with my mythTV setup...works splendid
[02:59] <Dante123> hi all......I'm a teacher and I have a laptop with windows and ubuntu.......I prefer ubuntu by the way.....but sometimes run into trouble with it when hooking up to peripherals etc.   Today I tried to hook it up to an LCD projector....and it did work....however video I tried to show was in 1024 x768.......and would not give me any other option......does this have something to do with the fact that I was hooked up via the monitor po
[02:59] <Dante123> LCD projector?
[02:59] <Being> can any one get to gnome look ?
[02:59] <prabu^> anybody ?
[02:59] <Being> www.gnome-look.org
[03:00] <calvarez> PVR150 is the newer, cheaper version of PVR250
[03:00] <Dregin> no it was dead earlier
[03:00] <Camo`_`> I'm having trouble connecting to my school's wireless with Kvpnc... I imported the cisco vpn file from the vpn client I have on windows but it still doesnt work... it connects me, but i can't get on any websites does anyone know what's wrong?
[03:00] <Dregin> speaking of that
[03:00] <sable> Biovore: I get this error W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[03:00] <calvarez> either one is well supported
[03:00] <Mena> Gaiiax11,but also conecting to 16 conection for the server i am dowenloaing from would make the downloading a litle faster
[03:00] <hansent_> corevette, you should also look into knopMyth...makes setup super easy...and they have a list of supported hardware
[03:00] <sable> err not htat error
[03:00] <sable> Biovore: fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x33fc34) stub!
[03:00] <Mena> for>>>from*
[03:00] <sable> that error
[03:00] <Dabian> holycow : Hmmm .. I'll have to pull my computer out of this table, managing all the wires, then insert the card, and back again .. and reverse when the onboard USB-one is supported ... I guess compiling my own kernel might be worth a shot ... I guess I can build using kernel-package .. and still get my nvidia 7900gtx card working?
[03:00] <Dante123> I have found that sometimes movies won't display properly on the LCD unless i switch to 800 x 600.....but under preferences--> screen resolution....the only option that came up was 1024 x 768
[03:01] <hansent_> calcarez, does the PVR150 come with hardware mpeg2 encoding/decoding
[03:01] <corevette> i already set up hansent_
[03:01] <calvarez> hansent_, only decoding
[03:01] <Camo`_`> I'm having trouble connecting to my school's wireless with Kvpnc... I imported the cisco vpn file from the vpn client I have on windows but it still doesnt work... it connects me, but i can't get on any websites does anyone know what's wrong?
[03:01] <calvarez> the PVR350 is the only one with encoding as well
[03:01] <holycow> Dabian, sure ... i'm not certain what your criteria are so its hard to have an opinion
[03:01] <calvarez> erm, wait
[03:01] <chris_> lol ill paypal anyone $5 for the emblem fix :)
[03:02] <calvarez> the other way
[03:02] <holycow> the pvr250 has the same encoding capabilities btw... the only difference is video out
[03:02] <calvarez> hansent_, it has mpeg2 ENcoding
[03:02] <Dabian> holycow : I don't want to mess up my filesystem too much .. or the package system.
[03:02] <Camo`_`> dayam chris u rich or something?
[03:02] <chris_> no just desperate
[03:02] <Camo`_`> ohhhhhh
[03:02] <calvarez> all of them have mpeg2 encoding, only pvr350 has decoding
[03:02] <chris_> it's a huge nuisance for me
[03:02] <calvarez> but you don't want that
[03:02] <atomiku-linux`> Back.
[03:02] <chris_> I like my folders / icons a little bigger than 150%
[03:03] <calvarez> hansent_, a PVR150 + an nvidia card is cheaper, faster and more reliable than getting the 350
[03:03] <Camo`_`> isnt kde better than gnome? so why isnt ubuntu kde and they shoujld make a gubuntu for ppl who want gnome???
[03:03] <chris_> and unfortunately the emblems get cut off when it is over that
[03:03] <HymnToLife> Camo`_`, KDE is better than Gnome for people who prefer it
[03:03] <Dabian> holycow : I used to down me kernels fresh from kernel.org .. and it used to force me to install "fake" kernels to trick dependcies.  Then I started using stock kernels, until I got nvidia gfx card ..
[03:03] <calvarez> Camo`_`, it's all about user preference
[03:03] <chris_> does kde support emblems?
[03:03] <Camo`_`> i thought most people prefer kde?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> I know it may sound incredible but there are acually people who prefer Gnome
[03:03] <atomiku-linux`> So... I think its time for a little cleaning... Where do I start? Over the months I have installed all sorts of crap and installed loads of drivers that I dont even really need any more. How shall I go about cleaning ubuntu?
[03:03] <Clint-> anyone?
[03:03] <Clint-> i want to make some sort of batch file so that on double click it will launch terminal run ssh using host -l option and the pass option
[03:03] <Dante123> gnome.....more potential to woo windows users
[03:04] <calvarez> Camo`_`, I just switched to GNOME this last week after years of using KDE
[03:04] <holycow> Dabian, sweet, you should be able to help a few people in here when they come asking :)
[03:04] <Camo`_`> i have kde with beryl.. im pretty sure i can woo windows users :)
[03:04] <Camo`_`> why calvarez?
[03:04] <Camo`_`> how do u like gnome?
[03:04] <calvarez> they're both excellent, it's just a matter of preference, that's all
[03:04] <chris_> does kde have emblems?
[03:04] <Camo`_`> oic
[03:04] <Dante123> clavarez.....and what are your thoughts?
[03:05] <calvarez> Camo`_`, I don't know, I used to use KDE but I realized that most of the software I used was GTK+ (Gaim, gimp, etc)
[03:05] <Dante123> calvarez.....why did you switch?
[03:05] <calvarez> so I decided to switch
[03:05] <dooglus> calvarez: try XFCE4 some time as well if you've not yet
[03:05] <frogzoo> atomiku-linux`: maybe dpkg -l   & see what you can do away with
[03:05] <calvarez> dooglus, I have, It's too minimalistic for my taste
[03:05] <atomiku-linux`> Trying now
[03:05] <calvarez> I used to use Xubuntu
[03:05] <atomiku-linux`> Also
[03:05] <Dabian> holycow : Hmm .. I guess meanwhile there is a backport of some sort where I can get ubuntu package for my wifi?
[03:05] <calvarez> I like eye candy, and both GNOME and KDE have plenty of it
[03:06] <Camo`_`> oh yeah ... with the auto apt-get thing on my system tray, it keeps saying i have 32 updates but when I get the list of updates, it says requested action is "no change"
[03:06] <chris_> One reason I have never liked KDE a whole lot was it just gave you too much of the same thing.
[03:06] <Camo`_`> so it doesnt do anything when I click update
[03:06] <HymnToLife> calvarez, you don't know what "minimalistic" means until you've tried openbox :p
[03:06] <chris_> Too many apps preinstalled
[03:06] <shatrat> Dante123, im with calvarez,  I dont really care too much either way about gnome-panel versus kpanel or nautlius versus konqueror, but GTK beats QT
[03:06] <linxeh> calamari: and xfce does too
[03:06] <Camo`_`> what is going on?? they are mostly python updates
[03:06] <zyth> HymnToLife, evilwm.
[03:06] <HymnToLife> chris_, KDE is not Kubuntu
[03:06] <holycow> Dabian, not for nforce6 yet, not that i know of
[03:06] <Music_Shuffle> calvarez, Beryl + XFCE is shiny too if you felt like it ./shrug.
[03:06] <Dabian> holycow : Oh .. its nforce 5.
[03:06] <HymnToLife> you can very well install KDE with very few apps if you want
[03:06] <mrbrdo> Which guide would you guys recommend for installing beryl?
[03:06] <calvarez> HymnToLife, I don't intend to go on the minimalistic direction. That's why I drew my line on XFCE
[03:06] <frogzoo> !beryl | mrbrdo
[03:06] <ubotu> mrbrdo: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:06] <shatrat> mrbrdo, the help.ubuntu.com/berylonedgy one
[03:07] <calvarez> Music_Shuffle, I like Beryl + GNOME :)
[03:07] <Camo`_`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[03:07] <Dabian> holycow : nforce 5 comes in 3 variants.
[03:07] <chris_> kde just seems to have too much going on
[03:07] <dacks_> quick question
[03:07] <holycow> Dabian, not sure you will haveto research it more deeply for that, i just bought nforce chips once and never again
[03:07] <Dabian> holycow : I got 590
[03:07] <calvarez> chris_, that's also the impression I get
[03:07] <mrbrdo> Camo`_` thanks i'll sure try it out
[03:07] <Camo`_`> that's what i think about gnome, chris
[03:07] <Music_Shuffle> calvarez, indeed, and if you load Beryl on startup, it'll run in XFCE too O_O
[03:07] <Dabian> holycow : I looked for alternatives .. but there were no real :(
[03:07] <MattJ> Any idea why my sound suddenly died?
[03:07] <Camo`_`> np.. i isntalled it yesterday .. it was fast and easy :)
[03:07] <dacks_> anyone know how to set 75hz refresh rate for 800x600 resolution only. (xorg 7.1, beryl installed, edgy)
[03:08] <MattJ> It hasn't worked all day, was fine yesterday
[03:08] <Dabian> holycow : I hate proprietary secret hardware.
[03:08] <frogzoo> MattJ: maybe you have a mute set
[03:08] <mrbrdo> Camo`_` is it using still aiglx or already without it? i heard that was a new possibility, without xgl or aiglx
[03:08] <holycow> Dabian, i switched to intel chipsets recently, as much as i hate intel and want to support the underdog i'm tired of dealing with weird chipset issues
[03:08] <MattJ> It seems there is no device...
[03:08] <Dabian> holycow : But no other chipset performed like this one when I bought it.
[03:08] <zepeuga> in sticky notes my notes close to sticky and don't stay in desktop...anyone has the same problem ?
[03:08] <MattJ> Mixer settings are blank
[03:08] <Camo`_`> um i have no idea about that
[03:08] <Camo`_`> i think i have xgl tho
[03:08] <MattJ> and amixer says "Device not found" or something
[03:08] <calvarez> mrbrdo, yes, besides AIGLX and XGL there is a special NVIDIA configuration
[03:08] <shatrat> holycow, nothing wrong with intel, they have more than a few people working on the linux kernel iirc
[03:08] <chris_> to me personally. Gnome seems to give you the bare essentials and add on if you wish. Default wise I'd say gnome seems to cater more to those who want to be functional but add their own stuff as they see fit. KDE seems to throw everything at you whether you want it or not. Atleast it defaults that way
[03:08] <frogzoo> Dabian: sounds like you want the HorizSync + VertRefresh options in your xorg.conf
[03:08] <calvarez> for GeForce FX cards and up
[03:09] <frogzoo> !fixres | Dabian
[03:09] <ubotu> Dabian: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:09] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on??
[03:09] <mrbrdo> well i have a supported card
[03:09] <mrbrdo> the problem is, as i'm looking at this guide, it's using the same repo that screwed my X up
[03:09] <HymnToLife> chris_, no, it doesn't
[03:09] <Dabian> holycow : Does intel chipset support real 16x pci-e in SLi mode?
[03:09] <calvarez> chris_, if you want barebone essentials, then there are other desktop environments that are way lighter than GNOME
[03:09] <mrbrdo> is that repo updated for sure for amd64, the .11 kernel?
[03:09] <audimage> can anybody help me recover my ubuntu partition? When I try to recover grub, it reports Error: 22 No such partition
[03:10] <holycow> Dabian, not sure, i haven't required those features yet
[03:10] <dacks_> the horiz and vert synch are correct, its doing 85hz by default
[03:10] <dacks_> but i need 75
[03:10] <frogzoo> !appdb | sable
[03:10] <ubotu> sable: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:10] <chris_> I never said barebone :P barebone is non-functional (IE a barebone computer) I said it gives you enough of what you need to be functional
[03:10] <HymnToLife> audimage, a mistake in your menu.lst, most likely
[03:10] <shatrat> mrbrdo, there are still problems with that repo though, the maintainer said he'd be fixing them in the next day or two, but you migth want to use the manual install method that is mentioned if you dont want to wait.  I install manually, its not that big a deal
[03:10] <calvarez> I just like GNOME for it's elegance, simplicity and feature list. KDE is good too, it allows for extra configurability but it gets kindof crowded IMO
[03:10] <Dabian> holycow : I wanted my machine to be "game ready" ... I want to code free 3D games. :)
[03:10] <chris_> yah thats what I think
[03:10] <shatrat> mrbrdo, you might want to direct any other questions to #ubuntu-effects  and youll probably get better responses
[03:10] <dacks_> in the gnome panel the only option is 85 hz
[03:10] <MattJ> $ amixer
[03:10] <MattJ> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[03:10] <chris_> a lot of stuff going on.
[03:10] <dacks_> ive tried generating different modelines in xorg.conf
[03:10] <mrbrdo> shatrat oh, just install from nvidia.com then? i'll try it
[03:10] <dacks_> but its not allowing me to use 75hz
[03:11] <shatrat> mrbrdo, well, follow the guide, there are dependencies and stuff to be met
[03:11] <calvarez> and most KDE distros tend to replace KDE configuration with their own stuff, so the point of KDE configurability gets kind of lost
[03:11] <holycow> Dabian, your way too ready. nothing will really use that for games for quite a while.   you will be coding for old hardware for a long time
[03:11] <audimage> hymntolife how would i go about fixing that
[03:11] <zepeuga> in sticky notes my notes close to sticky tray and don't stay in desktop...anyone has the same problem ?
[03:11] <holycow> Dabian, although, it does sound fun :)
[03:11] <Dabian> holycow :)
[03:11] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on?? they are mostly python updates
[03:11] <shatrat> zepeuga, I thought thats how it was supposed to be.  I dont want to see em all the time.
[03:11] <HymnToLife> audimage, opening it in your favourite text editor and fixing the partitions numbers, since it obviously has wrong ones
[03:11] <frogzoo> dacks_: sounds like you want the HorizSync + VertRefresh options in your xorg.conf
[03:11] <Dabian> holycow : I bought my computer june 2006.
[03:11] <calvarez> holycow, I challenge that statement
[03:12] <dacks_> frogzoo, i have configured them already
[03:12] <dacks_> to factory ranges
[03:12] <zepeuga> shatrat: hmm i thougt they would STICK in desktop
[03:12] <holycow> calvarez, okay :)
[03:12] <mrbrdo> brb
[03:12] <calvarez> holycow, I think a super-pimped-out computer can be excellent for gaming even at this time
[03:12] <chris_> Anyway, back to my previous request. $5 for this emblem fix :)
[03:12] <dacks_> how do i set xorg to use 75hz specifically for 800x600
[03:12] <zepeuga> zepeuga: theres any app that sticks in desktop ?
[03:12] <dacks_> modeline correct?
[03:12] <zepeuga> shatrat
[03:12] <shatrat> zepeuga, perhaps there is a setting for that in the preferences?
[03:12] <calvarez> Dabian, just 3 words: Unreal Tournament 3
[03:12] <calvarez> ;)
[03:12] <Dabian> :)
[03:12] <zepeuga> shatrat: there isnt
[03:12] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on?? they are mostly python updates plz help!!
[03:12] <frogzoo> dacks_: if it's an option, remove all the other modelines
[03:12] <mrbrdo> anyway, does this open for you guys http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-9746.html ? i just get a blank page
[03:13] <dacks_> frogzoo, i have remove all of them
[03:13] <calvarez> mrbrdo, it opens
[03:13] <dacks_> frogzoo, it still defaults to 85hz
[03:13] <shatrat> zepeuga, maybe you should try tomboy?  I havent used it but i think its similiar and myabe can do what you want?
[03:13] <Dabian> calvarez : I play PlaneShift .. it seems to demand something already ... at least my fan is going crazy if it starts snowing or stuff like that.
[03:13] <calvarez> yea, Planeshift is demanding
[03:13] <mrbrdo> calvarez: and you see what?
[03:13] <calvarez> mrbrdo, the page :)
[03:13] <mrbrdo> i just get a blank page
[03:13] <dacks_> calvarez, planeshift rocks!
[03:13] <calvarez> the driver download page
[03:14] <mrbrdo> what the hell :/
[03:14] <mrbrdo> it doesn't even open on my windows box
[03:14] <calvarez> mrbrdo, suggestion: don't download the driver from there
[03:14] <dacks_> windoze
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: because?
[03:14] <Dabian> calvarez : I guess I need a better CPU .. I only have a 4200+  (dual core 2.2GHz AMD64)
[03:14] <calvarez> mrbrdo, there is a package with that driver
[03:14] <zepeuga> shatrat: its visually stupid and BIG ;) but yes, it sticks to desktop because it stays open in taskbar :D
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: it's broken for amd64
[03:14] <calvarez> mrbrdo, you need to enable the right repository
[03:14] <shatrat> calvarez, the package isnt working right now
[03:14] <calvarez> oh
[03:14] <calvarez> ok, I didn't know that
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: i just tried it, and X wouldn't start anymore
[03:14] <frogzoo> dacks_: xvidtune maybe
[03:14] <calvarez> I see
[03:14] <mrbrdo> calvarez: something with mismatch in module versions
[03:15] <mrbrdo> calvarez: could you give me the direct download link? i can't open the damn page :/
[03:15] <shatrat> mrbrdo, try this "wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9746/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9746-pkg2.run" in a terminal
[03:15] <calvarez> Dabian, Nexuiz is demanding too
[03:15] <dacks_> frogzoo, what would i have to modift to get 75hz
[03:15] <mrbrdo> ah, thanks :)
[03:15] <Dabian> calvarez : Been a while since I tried that one.
[03:15] <calvarez> dacks, you want to modify your Xorg configuration file
[03:15] <frogzoo> dacks_: dunno, but xvidtune should be able to let you tweak your modelin
[03:15] <mrbrdo> shatrat: works.
[03:15] <zyth> Dabian, you don't need a better cpu for planeshift, I have a 2.8g p4 and it runs fine
[03:15] <calvarez> dacks, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <atomiku-linux> What can I get so I can share the files that are on my windows box to my linux box? I was thinking FTP but I wanna have the files from the windows box like theyre actually on the linux box without transfering them over.
[03:16] <Dabian> zyth : Which gfx card?
[03:16] <calvarez> dacks, WARNING: make sure you read the appropriate documentation or you may fry your monitor
[03:16] <calvarez> dacks, consider yourself warned
[03:16] <zyth> Dabian, radeon 9600 128mb
[03:16] <Dabian> dacks_ : Esp. if the monitor is not young.
[03:16] <Dabian> zyth : ATI is better than nvidia for PS?
[03:17] <calvarez> meh
[03:17] <calvarez> ATI = no good :p
[03:17] <zyth> ati isnt better in linux
[03:17] <zyth> I just have a crap card
[03:17] <zyth> lol
[03:17] <calvarez> for anything in linux, really
[03:17] <Dabian> zyth : How do you cope with snow, and the stuff in BD?
[03:17] <zyth> Dabian, runs fine
[03:17] <zyth> gonna get an nvidia soon though
[03:17] <Dabian> zyth : No black spots on the bd-road?
[03:18] <chris_> would possibly making my emblems smaller fix this problem?
[03:18] <calvarez> ok, I gtg
[03:18] <calvarez> good luck everyone
[03:18] <Dabian> calvarez : You 2!
[03:18] <zyth> Dabian, not that I've noticed, no
[03:19] <Dabian> zyth : Remarkable ... maybe I really need to set up my ram timing in the BIOS.
[03:19] <philip> firefox crashes a lot in feisty
[03:20] <Weems> why am I unable to install libc6? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5666/
[03:20] <Camo`_`> what is after edgy and when is it gonna be released?
[03:20] <Biovore> philip: and thats why feisty is a RC :-P
[03:20] <Weems> feisty
[03:20] <exs> i've installed a windows program under wine, where does wine store c;/program files/*program name* in my ubuntu partition?
[03:20] <philip> in your home's .wine
[03:20] <Camo`_`> ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:21] <exs> thanks
[03:21] <Dabian> zyth: At times I get low framerates, and the fan goes wild ..
[03:21] <Camo`_`> nice name dude
[03:21] <zyth> Dabian, that doesnt' sound healthy
[03:21] <Camo`_`> the auto updater in my kubuntu keeps saying i have 32 updates but the Requested Operation says "no change" for all of them but they are upgradable so when I click apply updates, it doesn't do anything since it's "no change" what is going on?? they are mostly python updates plz help!!
[03:21] <ubuntu_noob> :^) well its sorta tru
[03:21] <Camo`_`> :^)
[03:22] <ubuntu_noob> i cant figure out why repairing package fails
[03:22] <ubuntu_noob> shouldn't repair fix the stuff?
[03:22] <Dabian> zyth: Well .. in XPlane my card is saying like that all the time .. the software keeps the frame rate up there though.
[03:22] <audimage> hymntolife is there any way i can just completely reinstall grub from scratch?
[03:22] <HymnToLife> !grub | audimage
[03:22] <ubotu> audimage: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:22] <audimage> nothing i try seems to be working
[03:22] <HymnToLife> audimage, first link
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob> i broke my libgl1-mesa-glx package so i tried using the repair thing
[03:23] <cypherdelic> http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=17047
[03:23] <shatrat> audimage, did you try sudo grub-install?
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob> it keeps saying
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob>  dpkg-reconfigure libgl1-mesa-glx
[03:23] <ubuntu_noob> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libGLw.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[03:23] <Camo`_`> I have both windows and ubunto on my machine. I want to resize my windows partition to make it smaller and resize my ubuntu to make it bigger. is this possible??
[03:24] <holycow> Camo`_`, sure, but try to use partition magic for windows ... hard to guarantee results for ntfs resize with open source tools
[03:24] <Camo`_`> oh ok thanks
[03:24] <ubuntu_noob> anybody know how to override this or something?
[03:24] <MasterZen> there we go :D
[03:24] <MasterZen> Im in!!
[03:24] <Camo`_`> well i did my partitiong with QTParted and i have ntfs for my windows partition
[03:24] <MasterZen> Lmfao
[03:24] <Dabian> help.ubuntu.com down?
[03:24] <ubuntu_noob> i was gonna try an uninstall / install but the uninstall didn't like all the broken dependencies
[03:24] <ubuntu_noob> *-)
[03:24] <Sreyom_Ekim> Hey is there a way to have ubuntu boot the contents of the cd bay before the hard disk? Because I need to run the ubuntu live cd to reinstall ubuntu
[03:24] <Camo`_`> i think u do that in ur bios
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> Or a command I can execute in a terminal
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> I already have it changed in bios
[03:25] <holycow> Camo`_`, its not the partition stuff you haveto worry about, its the allocation of the ntfs bits ... you want that done properly on a resize, especially if you want to be sure to keep your windows data corruption free
[03:25] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : I think you can ask grub to do that.  However, the default way would be to convince your BIOS, though.
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> but that does not seem to effect it Camo`_`
[03:25] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian:How would I do that from the terminal?
[03:25] <H4T> I have a dual monitor setup with an AGP card and a PCI card...when I went into the Device Manager, it does not even show both my cards there and will only display on one monitor (both are NVidia cards) What can I do?
[03:26] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : I wouldn't do it in terminal, I would do it using the bios util of your bios.
[03:26] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian: I already set up in bios for the cd to load first but grub is semming to ignore it
[03:26] <MasterZen> question I have a dvd in my cd drive how do i watch it I've installed codecs
[03:27] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : Grub shouldn't get into play in this case.  Not grub from the HD anyway.
[03:27] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : Have you a broken CD?
[03:28] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian: I don't think so
[03:28] <chris_> try hitting like F12 on bootup
[03:28] <MasterZen> anyone
[03:28] <MasterZen> how do i watch it
[03:28] <Sreyom_Ekim> ok
[03:28] <chris_> some bios will give you a boot selector when you hit F12
[03:28] <chris_> no guarantees though
[03:28] <audimage> when i try to install grub i get this message
[03:28] <audimage> The file /mnt/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[03:29] <MasterZen> Now Listening to pink floyd - Wish you where here.mp3
[03:29] <ubuntu_noob> anybody? :<
[03:29] <MasterZen> Still wondering why I can't watch my movie
[03:29] <_goofy_> whats to command to get an output wth glxgears
[03:29] <shatrat> MasterZen, to watch a dvd you need libdvdcss
[03:30] <H4T> still have no idea how to help MZ, I'd imagine I'm not alone
[03:30] <Dabian> chris_: Thanks .. I asserted that he could read. :)
[03:30] <shatrat> MasterZen, msg ubotu dvd or restricted or something and it will pm you the link
[03:30] <bulmer> audimage: you boot from a liveCD?
[03:30] <newtux> fg
[03:30] <chris_> well what I meant was not to literally change the boot order in the bios
[03:31] <H4T> I've got two vid cards (and two monitors)...do I need to manually install those drivers? Ubuntu only detected one and won't let me use the other
[03:31] <mrbrdo> hey again
[03:31] <Sreyom_Ekim> it has the green loading on the live cd and it is staying like that
[03:32] <mrbrdo> beryl is up now, but beryl manager won't start.. at least i can't see anything.. is the manager for GNOME only?
[03:32] <mrbrdo> nvm now it started :)
[03:32] <MasterZen> shatrat
[03:32] <MasterZen> do you mean gxine?
[03:32] <_goofy_> how do i get an out put for glxgears
[03:32] <Sreyom_Ekim> Dabian/chris: that was towards you guys
[03:32] <kitche> _goofy_: output for what
[03:33] <Dabian> Sreyom_Ekim : Thanks.
[03:33] <chris_> are you giving it enough time before you give up?
[03:33] <_goofy_> im looking for a frame out put
[03:33] <Sreyom_Ekim> yah
[03:33] <_goofy_> frme rate**
[03:33] <kitche> _goofy_: glxgears -printfps
[03:33] <Dabian> chris_: Do you work with support RL?
[03:33] <Sreyom_Ekim> usuall it goes loading... and now it is just freezing at loading
[03:34] <mrbrdo> how do you add something to session startup in Kubuntu? like in system-preferences-session for ubuntu?
[03:34] <_goofy_> i dont know why i cant ever remember....thanks
[03:34] <Biovore> mrbrdo: start when you log in?
[03:34] <mrbrdo> yep
[03:34] <chris_> What Dabian?
[03:34] <Biovore> mrbrdo: place a symlink in ~/.Autostart
[03:35] <mrbrdo> aha so no GUI way in KDE
[03:35] <mrbrdo> okay
[03:35] <MasterZen> alright so I have my dvd in my player and gxine how do i start this baby up
[03:35] <Sreyom_Ekim> chris_:yah it is deffintetly freezing
[03:35] <mrbrdo> one more thing, how can i confirm my kernel is amd64 and not i386?
[03:35] <H4T> I've got two vid cards (and two monitors)...do I need to manually install those drivers? Ubuntu only detected one and won't let me use the other
[03:35] <mrbrdo> uname -r just says generic
[03:35] <Biovore> mrbrdo: sorry.. I mean ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:35] <chavo> mrbrdo, there's an app on kde-apps.org that will do it, but nothing in the repos yet
[03:35] <mackinac> generic IS the kernel
[03:36] <mrbrdo> chavo: i see
[03:36] <mrbrdo> mackinac: but how can i find out if it's 64bit?
[03:36] <Dabian> chris_: You seem very adjusted to the level of an avarage customer.
[03:37] <Dabian> The Zen Master was stroken by impatience(!)
[03:37] <MasterZen> common
[03:37] <MasterZen> lol
[03:37] <MasterZen> I got the dvd in and gxine
[03:37] <MasterZen> how do i start this baby up
[03:37] <chris_> What do you mean Dabian. Sorry for for the misunderstanding but it's the net. I am not entirely getting what you're trying to say.
[03:37] <mrbrdo> okay time to try if it works, brb
[03:38] <Dabian> chris_: I am guessing that you work with support?
[03:38] <MasterZen> sinces hes done help me ! :D
[03:38] <MasterZen> I cant find my e drive
[03:38] <Sreyom_Ekim> I'm not done
[03:38] <Sreyom_Ekim> I have got nothign since go into bios
[03:39] <MasterZen> ILL KILL YOU ALL >,<
[03:39] <chris_> support specifically related to Ubuntu ? No :P
[03:39] <UntouchableMX> need help, Im installing MySQL and dont know what to do next
[03:40] <chris_> I deal with customers on a day to day bases though. I am a General Manager of a food establishment :P
[03:40] <chris_> basis even.
[03:40] <MasterZen> gotta love denies eh chris
[03:40] <chris_> :P
[03:40] <MasterZen> am i right? do you own a dennies
[03:40] <BlueEagle> untouchablemx: If you're not sure what to do next I suggest you google for: securing mysql server
[03:40] <Dabian> chris_ :)
[03:40] <chris_> I eat there occasionally
[03:41] <chris_> No, I run a Little Caesars
[03:41] <Dabian> chris_ : I guess customers stay customers ... I can even see myself turn into one at times.
[03:41] <UntouchableMX> Well I did the get-apt and it just say Configurating mysql-server
[03:41] <ubuntu_noob> i cant figure out why repairing package fails, i broke my libgl1-mesa-glx package so i tried using the repair thing, it keeps saying dpkg-reconfigure libgl1-mesa-glxldconfig: /usr/lib/libGLw.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[03:41] <MasterZen> so why wont anyone help me >,<!!!!
[03:41] <MasterZen> >,<"
[03:41] <ubuntu_noob> help? (unsure)
[03:41] <MasterZen> >,<'
[03:41] <Dabian> MasterZen : Have you eaten?
[03:41] <quaal> hey does anyone here use azureus
[03:42] <Flannel> MasterZen: becuase you haven't asked a question?
[03:42] <MasterZen> I have asked :P
[03:42] <UntouchableMX> so what should I do next???
[03:42] <MasterZen> how do i get my dvd to play i have gxine 0.5.7 installed and the dvd in the drive
[03:42] <chris_> I am actually pretty new to Ubuntu. Linux in general actually.
[03:42] <Flannel> !libdvdcss | MasterZen
[03:42] <MasterZen> and actualy no I havnt eaten
[03:42] <ubotu> MasterZen: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:42] <chris_> I tried Ubuntu back when it was Hoary Hedgehog
[03:42] <chris_> I just recently am giving it another shot with Feisty Fawn
[03:42] <ubuntu_noob> thanks for the story chris
[03:42] <mrbrdo> hm well putting beryl-manager in .kde/Autostart didn't work so good, it starts only 10 seconds after everything is already started (all window decorations disappear for a few seconds then)
[03:43] <ubuntu_noob> :^)
[03:43] <chris_> no problem :P
[03:43] <Flannel> chris_: you might want to try edgy, not feisty, as feisty is still alpha software
[03:43] <UntouchableMX> any body thats willing to help a n00b
[03:43] <chris_> Well it's definately not a mission critical system :P so I don't care about dealing with the risks really.
[03:43] <H4T> Ubuntu only detects one of my two vid cards; my PCI card. My AGP card is my primary, and it won't show up, how do I install my AGP card?
[03:43] <chris_> My important information is on my external drive :P
[03:43] <MasterZen> screw it ima just watch the shawshank redemptions for the like 80th time no joke
[03:43] <ubuntu_noob> cu
[03:43] <mrbrdo> And, what can i use instead of gnome-screenshot on Kubuntu, or can i use that?
[03:43] <Flannel> chris_: not risks, just the fact that it's day-to-day as to whether it works
[03:44] <chris_> Working excellent so far. Plus, someone has gotta send in the bugs right?
[03:44] <chris_> :)
[03:44] <bulmer> H4T: i never had to use two monitors, but dont they conflict IRQ wise if you have two of them?
[03:44] <Flannel> chris_: sounds good, as long as you know it's alpha ;)  #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[03:44] <H4T> no, I'm talking to you now from my Windows partition....both monitors work great here
[03:44] <calamari> anyone know of a good Ubuntu or Linux book?  I'm looking for something that covers command line AND gui.. foor example, cover synaptic, but also apt-get, dpkg, /etc/apt/sources/list.. /etc/init.d, /etc/rc, user management, adding a font, etc etc.. basically the whole os, not jkust gui not just console
[03:44] <chris_> My only gripe so far is the emblem issue but it is affecting other releases as well
[03:45] <chris_> Not specific to the release anyway I suppose but I figure more people would be able to assist here.
[03:45] <chris_> Want to earn $5 Flannel?
[03:45] <chris_> :P
[03:45] <UntouchableMX> some one knows what to do when you install using sudo apt-get
[03:45] <Madpilot> calamari, check out the Official Ubuntu Book
[03:45] <bulmer> H4T can you check if they are using same IRQ just out of curiosity
[03:45] <defragmeout> hello
[03:46] <H4T> sure can, is that in the BIOS?
[03:46] <Flannel> UntouchableMX: what's your question?
[03:46] <Madpilot> calamari, (giant Amazon URL, sorry....) http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Mako/dp/0132435942/sr=8-1/qid=1171421156/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-9795670-9623924?ie=UTF8&s=books
[03:46] <bulmer> H4T perhaps or maybe in devicemanager or somewhere under control panel
[03:46] <Flannel> !lamp | UntouchableMX, instructions here
[03:46] <ubotu> UntouchableMX, instructions here: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:46] <H4T> I'll do  a google search
[03:46] <dragonfly7> Is gnome-look down for anyone else?
[03:46] <kitche> dragonfly7: yes their server is down
[03:47] <UntouchableMX> well im installing MySQL-Server, it has extract it self and stop and left this messege, Configurating mysql-server
[03:47] <toddobryan> I have two SATA drives and have given up on FakeRAID. Anybody have a link to a good how-to for setting up RAID using the support built into the kernel?
[03:47] <dragonfly7> kitche: Thanks, I was wondering what's up.
[03:47] <chris_> I guess my problem has already been filed. But, I would be so certain that there would be a temporary workaround and I am just not seeing it anywhere.
[03:47] <toddobryan> I need handholding starting at the partitioner.
[03:47] <chris_> Searched the forums. Usenet, Googled it for hours heh
[03:47] <H4T> bulmer: no, they are on different IRQs
[03:47] <ubuntu_noob> anybody want to help teach a humble noob the ways of ubuntu??
[03:47] <ubuntu_noob> i cant figure out why repairing package fails, i broke my libgl1-mesa-glx package so i tried using the repair thing, it keeps saying dpkg-reconfigure libgl1-mesa-glxldconfig: /usr/lib/libGLw.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[03:47] <Flannel> !raid | toddobryan
[03:47] <ubotu> toddobryan: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:47] <bulmer> H4T: okay, thanks for checking
[03:47] <H4T> np
[03:48] <toddobryan> Flannel: Thanks!
[03:48] <H4T> I posted a thread on the forums, so maybe we'll get some hits there
[03:48] <H4T> this IRC thing is insane lol
[03:48] <UntouchableMX> Flannel can I pm you???
[03:48] <Flannel> UntouchableMX: I suppose
[03:48] <ubuntu_noob> THANKS IN ADVANCE
[03:48] <ubuntu> anyone know if i have no audio in ubuntu but i install a windows vm if it will be able to (assuming it has the device drivers) have audio?
[03:49] <calamari> Madpilot: that doesn't appear to handle more advanced topic or command line issues
[03:49] <toddobryan> Flannel: Here's a quote from RaidConfigurationHowTo: This is *NOT* for people with new, blank hdds. For you it is much easier IMHO to set them up using linux software raid, i believe that there is a howto on this forum already for that.
[03:50] <calamari> Madpilot: I'm looking for something in depth, that isn't afraid to get advanced and tell everything it can
[03:50] <toddobryan> Any idea where *that* howto is? I've actually searched the wiki for it to no avail.
[03:50] <KanRiNiN> Is there anyway to install fluxbuntu on my current ubuntu partition w/o upgrading to fiesty?  If I just install fluxbox will I get the same nice tabbed skin it has?
[03:50] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: If ubuntu doesn't know what sound card you have or it's not set up correctly vmware won't know either. Windows sees a "generic sound device" when run in vmware. It does not access the hardware directly.
[03:50] <Madpilot> calamari, Ubuntu-specific or just Linux in general? If Linux in general, check some of the O'Reilly books out - lots of good Linux command line stuff there
[03:51] <Laibsch> I have two devices with wlan and one AP not under my control that offers internet connectivity.  I want both devices to have access to the internet AND I want ssh connection between them.  Connections "device - AP - device" seem to be restricted.  Is there any way I can have both internet and ssh between my two computer (like device aliases or one computer acting as a WLAN extender?  I am not too knowledgeable about this)
[03:51] <ubuntu> BlueEagle: Thanks!
[03:51] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[03:51] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: It's like a car in a cargo truck won't be able to drive the truck if the truck has broken down. :)
[03:51] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: No problem. :)
[03:52] <Bantroth> yes! My cat is amazing
[03:52] <Weems> does anyone know why i might get an error saying error while processing locales?
[03:52] <BlueEagle> weems: I would assume it's caused by an error that occures while processing locales.
[03:53] <Weems> but I want to know how to fix it
[03:53] <BlueEagle> weems: When does this error message appear?
[03:53] <junmin> hi, somebody can tell me some package that i can use to draw workflow??? thx
[03:53] <Weems> when running apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:53] <tsoler> hello
[03:53] <calamari> Madpilot: for example.. the filesystem structure, what goes where, basic bash scripting, vi, /etc stuff (profile, rc.d, init.d, ...), apt/dpkg/etc, grub, devices/mounting, lspci/mod,dev (etc) modules and devices, Xorg including configuration files, Gnome/XFCE settings
[03:54] <tsoler> got a question here
[03:54] <BlueEagle> weems: are you running in a root environment? (su? sudo -i?)
[03:54] <Weems> yes
[03:54] <DeepB> anyone know the developers of Rosetta??
[03:54] <Weems> root term
[03:54] <BlueEagle> weems: Does it occur only with apt-get or also with other executables?
[03:54] <Weems> no
[03:54] <tsoler> i can not see my files that are in greeks
[03:54] <Weems> well I havent tried to run locales itself
[03:54] <BlueEagle> weems: Have you tried running aptitude dist-upgrade?
[03:54] <bulmer> calamari: power tools.. published by orielly..and just for you to see all the bash commands now.. two tabs in your command line
[03:55] <Nergar> can anyone help me run a perl script as root??
[03:55] <Madpilot> calamari, the Ubuntu book I linked you to goes into the filesystem, gnome/kde settings, and touches on most of the rest, but it really is aimed at desktop users... have a look at the O'Reilly titles - "Linux in a Nutshell" or one of those
[03:55] <BlueEagle> weems: or something other that uses locales like ehh.. vim or such?
[03:55] <Weems> doing that now
[03:55] <tsoler> any workarounds >
[03:55] <frogzoo> junmin: kivio or office drawing - neither are ideal really
[03:55] <mrbrdo> so how would i find out if my kernel is 64bit or not?
[03:55] <tsoler> cannot see filenames in greeks
[03:55] <atomiku-linux> !divx
[03:55] <tsoler> ?
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <Weems> BlueEagle: same thing happened in aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:55] <toddobryan> junmin: check out Dia. It's pretty cool.
[03:56] <BlueEagle> weems: Does it occure when apt-get is starting or while installing some package?
[03:56] <Weems> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5668/
[03:56] <Weems> installing
[03:56] <junmin> toddobryan, thx
[03:56] <emilia> is something wrong with http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:56] <BlueEagle> weems: I see. Which package is it attempting to install when you get the error?
[03:56] <tsoler> guys i have an ntfs disk with my files on it.
[03:56] <mrbrdo> Where could i get rid of the KDE tooltip that shows when you hover a window in the taskbar?
[03:56] <emilia> im trying to upgrade to feisty, and i get an error that i cant download anything from http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <BlueEagle> !feisty
[03:57] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:57] <Weems> language-pack-en
[03:57] <tsoler> I can see english filenames but not greek filenames!
[03:57] <tsoler> any help here?
[03:58] <calamari> bulmer: thanks.. I'm having trouble finding the book.. is the title "power tools"?  I found UNIX power tools, but I'm looking for something about Linux
[03:58] <Nergar> can anyone help me run a perl script as root please??
[03:58] <toddobryan> Anybody have a really good howto for setting up software RAID that's supported in the kernel?
[03:58] <Flannel> emilia: I believe development releases (feisty) are only on the main ubuntu server
[03:58] <zathras_laptop> anyone familiar with installs around?
[03:58] <toddobryan> Best I can tell, the most recent Wiki article was last updated around Hoary?
[03:58] <BlueEagle> tsoler: You have probably set the wrong codepage when mounting the partition. `man mount` on the command line should bring up the manual for mount.
[03:58] <emilia> Flannel : i tried gksu update-manager -d, and it auto choses that one? can i change it?
[03:58] <Weems> BlueEagle: heres the complete aptitude dist-upgrade process
[03:58] <Weems> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5670/
[03:59] <Weems> ^^ there **
[03:59] <Flannel> emilia: Ask in #ubuntu+1, they'll know more
[03:59] <BlueEagle> weems: Are you upgrading to feisty since you're running dist-upgrade?
[03:59] <asdf_> I want to run a kernel later than 2.6.17
[03:59] <asdf_> how do I do that?
[03:59] <asdf_> (running ubuntu)
[03:59] <Weems> no
[03:59] <asdf_> want to do this with as little work as possible
[03:59] <asdf_> perferably an apt-get install
[03:59] <Weems> trying to upgrade from hoary
[03:59] <Weems> to breezy
[03:59] <Weems> and then to edgy
[03:59] <tsoler> Blueeagle: i have mount the disks with a script
[04:00] <Flannel> Weems: You have to go breezy to dapper to edgy
[04:00] <Nergar> please anyone?
[04:00] <BlueEagle> tsoler: Why do you have to mount the disks with a script?
[04:00] <tsoler> cause i am a novice
[04:00] <tsoler> :-/
[04:00] <Flannel> Weems: you might be better off just downloading edgy and reinstalling.  Or you'll be downloading about 1.5GB of stuff you don't really have to
[04:01] <BlueEagle> tsoler: Well I agree with you that the manual is a tad overwheming. Try the link ubotu sends you.
[04:01] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell tsoler about ntfs
[04:01] <Flannel> asdf_: compile it yourself, or upgrade to feisty
[04:01] <Weems> is there a smaller or network install cd?
[04:01] <Flannel> Weems: minimal iso, sure.
[04:01] <Flannel> !minimal | Weems
[04:01] <ubotu> Weems: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:01] <BlueEagle> weems: I am not familiar with upgrades and errors resulting from such processes so I am unable to help you any further.
[04:02] <tsoler> !ntfs
[04:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:02] <BlueEagle> weems: Atleast you kan now formulate the problem. :)
[04:02] <pfein_> any evdo users?
[04:02] <mackinac> mrbrdo, uname -a
[04:02] <spaceb3ar> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting. <--------- where do i configure that
[04:02] <spaceb3ar> ?
[04:02] <pfein_> er, EVDO / usbserial ?
[04:02] <atomiku-linux> hmm
[04:02] <tsoler> ok i ll have a look here
[04:02] <atomiku-linux> divx doesnt seem to be working
[04:02] <trollboy> I just changed my hostname, and was gunna set up bind so that that host resolves, but now, sudo complains about gethostname() whenever I try to do anything
[04:02] <trollboy> trollboy@shoggoth:~/Desktop$ sudo updatedb
[04:02] <trollboy> sudo: unable to lookup shoggoth.local via gethostbyname()
[04:02] <Nergar> how do i mount a ext3 partition?
[04:02] <trollboy> I can't even change it back
[04:03] <atomiku-linux> I ran install.sh but it doesnt seem to have installed
[04:03] <Biovore> Nergar: in liunx I assume?
[04:03] <DARKGuy> Good evening/night o.o; I have a question: If I have a valid floppy image file (.IMA), how can I write it to a floppy disk using dd?
[04:03] <Flannel> !hostname | trollboy
[04:03] <ubotu> trollboy: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[04:03] <BlueEagle> spaceb3ar: Did you look for /etc/3ddesk ?
[04:03] <Nergar> yes bionoid
[04:03] <spaceb3ar> ill see
[04:03] <Nergar> yes Biovore
[04:03] <Flannel> trollboy: make sure both those places are changed
[04:03] <BlueEagle> spaceb3ar: That's just a guess for what the config file or directory would be called. Also please read the manual.
[04:04] <Biovore> Nergar: there are a few ways to do this..  you want a perminate mount or a temp?
[04:04] <Weems> thanks BlueEagle
[04:04] <Nergar> perm, i have edgy and feisty in the same comp
[04:04] <Weems> I think im just gonna go the mini cd route
[04:04] <spaceb3ar> found it.. but no way to make ubuntu probe for my hardware acceleration. i have to set it in the conf myself?
[04:04] <frogzoo> DARKGuy: dd if=blah.ima of=/dev/fd0
[04:05] <Biovore> Nergar: ok what the device of the drive you want to mount (/dev/hdb3 or something)?
[04:05] <trollboy> Flannel: I can't sudo to edit those files
[04:05] <trollboy> and networking is dieing
[04:05] <zathras_laptop> can i use a usb hdd to install ubuntu onto an internal hdd?
[04:05] <Nergar>  /dev/sda3 on /sda2
[04:05] <ubuntu_noob> thanks for all the help guys
[04:05] <ubuntu_noob> i figured it out
[04:05] <Flannel> trollboy: correct.  You'll need to reboot to the recovery console (at the grub menu) to edit them
[04:05] <DARKGuy> frogzoo: thanks a lot :)
[04:06] <trollboy> even after just using hostname?
[04:06] <trollboy> i didn't edit the files originally
[04:06] <Flannel> trollboy: er, you're tempoarily changing your hostname? or what?
[04:06] <Biovore> Nergar: ok where you want it to be mounted to?
[04:06] <trollboy> I was testing
[04:06] <trollboy> setting up internal dns
[04:06] <Nergar> Biovore, media/sda3
[04:06] <Flannel> trollboy: rebooting will reset it
[04:06] <trollboy> crap
[04:07] <trollboy> was hoping not to reboot
[04:07] <BlueEagle> weems: np
[04:07] <trollboy> oh well
[04:07] <trollboy> ttyl
[04:07] <Biovore> Nergar: for now you can do a mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[04:07] <justdave> anyone good with troubleshooting ethernet?  I have no idea what chipset the onboard ethernet on this motherboard is, and Ubuntu Dapper doesn't seem to know it exists.  Don't know if it's missing a driver or what, but it's hard to fix if I can't get it on the net :)
[04:07] <Biovore> Nergar: but to make it do it on boot you may want to add the following line to /etc/fstab (in next comm)
[04:07] <Nergar> ok
[04:08] <Nergar> i want it to be permanent
[04:08] <bushblows> justdave: is it a 10/100 NIC
[04:08] <bushblows> or is it higher then 10/100
[04:08] <Biovore> Nergar: /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ext3 rw 0 0
[04:08] <justdave> bushblows: yeah, it's a 10/100
[04:08] <Biovore> throw that at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:08] <danieleboyo> hello there
[04:08] <herold> what command will tell me what version of Ubuntu I am useing?
[04:09] <bushblows> well ubuntu should recognize it
[04:09] <bushblows> it might just need configured
[04:09] <bushblows> have you looked at /etc/network/interfaces
[04:09] <danieleboyo> would anyone be able to help me with some live cd problems? (my screen has a bunch of horizontal and vertical bars instead of the GUI)
[04:09] <DARKGuy> justdave: I can't help you much with the ethernet, but maybe you could use "lspci" in a terminal to see if it exists and the info you can get (usually you can get the model and other useful stuff to identify it)
[04:09] <British_Intel> heya ppl
[04:09] <justdave> yeah, there's nothing listed in lspci that says ethernet except for the wifi card that's in one of the slots
[04:10] <Biovore> British_Intel: stop collecting info on me :-P
[04:10] <bushblows> well justdave you said it is onboard right
[04:10] <British_Intel> can some1 tell me how to mount a usb hard disk with write permissions using livecd
[04:10] <justdave> but the wifi doesn't work either because my wifi is WPA, and the wpa_supplicant on here is apparently too old (or network-manager is, one or the other)
[04:10] <British_Intel> lol
[04:10] <Biovore> British_Intel: is it ntfs formated disk?
[04:10] <justdave> yeah, the wired ethernet is what I'm trying to get working
[04:10] <British_Intel> yeah
[04:10] <Biovore> British_Intel: then nope.. you can't...
[04:10] <danieleboyo> would anyone be able to help me with some live cd problems? (my screen has a bunch of horizontal and vertical bars instead of the GUI)
[04:10] <British_Intel> :S y not ?
[04:10] <justdave> the port lights up when I plug a cable into it, so it at least has power :)
[04:10] <bushblows> what does your /etc/network/interface look like
[04:11] <Biovore> British_Intel: write suppot in linux for ntfs sucks.. thus disabled by default..
[04:11] <bushblows> and dont paste it in the channel, pastebin
[04:11] <Weems> BlueEagle: I cant burn the cd now... because of this broken locales issue.....
[04:11] <British_Intel> i need to copy files from 1 usb hdd to another
[04:11] <Weems> I cant install k3b or xcdroast
[04:11] <British_Intel> is there no way to do it :S
[04:11] <danieleboyo> has anyone had really bad graphics when loading the live cd?
[04:11] <chris_> dunno about live I was reading something about ntfs-3g or something on the forums though.
[04:12] <BlueEagle> weems: Then the only option that I can see is to get someone else to burn it for you. :(
[04:12] <Nergar> Biovore, how do i edit fstab?? i tried sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:12] <justdave> there's an entry for lo and an entry for wlan0 and that's it
[04:12] <herold> How can I tell what version I am running ?
[04:12] <Flannel> herold: lsb_release -a
[04:12] <herold> Thanks
[04:12] <Nergar> never mind Biovore
[04:12] <BlueEagle> weems: Lesson being that it pais to have a live-cd handy. Especially when upgrading. :)
[04:12] <fenris> hi
[04:12] <justdave> the wlan0 one has an essid and key in it from my attempt to get the wifi working
[04:13] <bushblows> just dave i dont know if this will work or not but try adding this to your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:13] <British_Intel> i need to copy /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 to /media/usbdisk1/folder - is htere no way to do it
[04:13] <tsoler> BlueEagle: fstab would be the solution for this?
[04:13] <bushblows> auto eth0
[04:13] <frogzoo> British_Intel: with both usbs mounted, it's a doddle
[04:13] <bushblows> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:13] <Nergar> Biovore, how do i save???
[04:13] <Nergar> :P
[04:13] <danieleboyo> could someone please help me!
[04:13] <Biovore> Nergar: you have to be root to edit that file and save to it..
[04:14] <justdave> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[04:14] <frogzoo> British_Intel: cp -r /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 /media/usbdisk1/folder
[04:14] <British_Intel> ooo ty
[04:14] <Biovore> Nergar: if your using the gui run gtsudo gedit (or something like that, I use kde here)
[04:14] <Nergar> i tried sudo nano /etc/fstab but i don't know how to use it  :P
[04:14] <bushblows> justdave: what kind of computer is it
[04:14] <British_Intel> kk brb
[04:14] <fenris> hm, when i am using the ssh -L option together with -g ssh only says "bind: Address already in use"... but i am sure it is not. With my previous debian install the same call worked fine, so whats wrong?
[04:14] <Biovore> Nergar: oh..
[04:14] <roostishaw> Is there a noticeable difference between a 386-NO SMP and a 686-WITH SMP?
[04:14] <justdave> custom-built media PC, the motherboard is a PCChips P23G
[04:14] <leafw> how can I generate a default xorg.conf file for a server install that didn't have Xorg initially?
[04:14] <Nergar> cus gedit didn't work
[04:14] <roostishaw> kernels i mean
[04:14] <Biovore> Nergar: in nano I belive its ALT-W
[04:15] <astronouth7303> I have a Saitek Gamer's keyboard <http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/gamerskey.htm> I'm trying to get to work with X. The keyboard itself works fine, but the command pad is unrecognized. I can get all kinds of technical information on the keyboard (3 devices, /dev/input/event[2,3,4] , etc.)
[04:15] <Nergar> kk thanx
[04:15] <bruenig> !xconfig | leafw
[04:15] <ubotu> leafw: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[04:15] <leafw> installing gdm and xserver-xorg-core didn't generate a xorg.conf
[04:15] <astronouth7303> How do I find how to configure X for this?
[04:15] <Biovore> Nergar: control-o thats it..
[04:15] <leafw> bruenig : I did that, didn't work
[04:15] <BayGuy28> anyone have a URL to an updated sources.list with restricted packages?
[04:15] <Nergar> yes, w is for search
[04:15] <danieleboyo> my gui does not load properly when i load the ubuntu 6.10 live cd, any ideas why not?
[04:15] <frogzoo> !easysource | BayGuy28
[04:15] <Biovore> Nergar: then control-x to exit..
[04:15] <ubotu> BayGuy28: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:15] <leafw> hum I see, xserver-xorg is not installed ... only yhe core
[04:16] <mackinac> danieleboyo, got enough ram ?
[04:16] <danieleboyo> yup
[04:16] <danieleboyo> 1 gig
[04:16] <BayGuy28> thanks!
[04:16] <danieleboyo> mackinac: i also have a 256 mb video card
[04:16] <Nergar> thanx a lot Biovore, it will work next restart?
[04:16] <Biovore> Nergar: yup..
[04:16] <mackinac> out of ideas then ;p
[04:17] <Biovore> Nergar: can work now if you want
[04:17] <danieleboyo> oh
[04:17] <danieleboyo> :'(
[04:17] <bushblows> justdave: ubuntu should recognize your NIC their is nothing special about it that would cause for extra drivers
[04:17] <Biovore> Nergar: sudo mount /media/sda3
[04:17] <danieleboyo> mackinac: anyone you know who could help?
[04:17] <Ztripez> any1 here using lirc under edgy?
[04:17] <mackinac> just let your question linger :)
[04:18] <Nergar> Biovore, /dev/sda3 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[04:18] <danieleboyo> but it gets swept away among the millions of others!
[04:18] <mackinac> such is the nature of #ubuntu :)
[04:18] <Biovore> Nergar: is /dev/sda3 the correct partion? for you linux ext3 filesystem..
[04:18] <danieleboyo> so then do i have to be annoying and keep posting it every so often?
[04:18] <Nergar> let me check but i think it is
[04:19] <Nergar> and sda4 is swap
[04:19] <mackinac> !repeat
[04:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:19] <justdave> hmm, suppose I could downgrade my wifi to WEP long enough to apt-get dist-upgrade the thing :)
[04:19] <mackinac> basically yes
[04:19] <Biovore> Nergar: might be /dev/sdb ?
[04:19] <Biovore> Nergar: is this all on the same physical disk?
[04:19] <danieleboyo> hahaha alright :S
[04:19] <Nergar> yes
[04:19] <Biovore> Nergar: how many partions you have?
[04:19] <danieleboyo> my gui does not load properly when i load the ubuntu 6.10 live cd, any ideas why not?
[04:20] <Nergar> 4
[04:20] <Nergar> :P
[04:20] <Biovore> Nergar: all primarys I guess?
[04:20] <Nergar> yes
[04:20] <Biovore> Nergar: well there are only 4 options then...
[04:20] <Biovore> what dose mount say is mounted now?
[04:21] <Nergar> -_-?
[04:21] <Biovore> Nergar: type mount in a shell
[04:21] <Biovore> Nergar: what /dev/sda devices dose it show as mounted.. (process of elimiation)
[04:22] <Biovore> Nergar: should show root mounted to some device and swap as some device..
[04:22] <Nergar> /dev/sda3 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[04:22] <Nergar> my bad
[04:22] <danieleboyo> my gui does not load properly when i load the ubuntu 6.10 live cd, any ideas why not?
[04:23] <Nergar> Biovore, /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:23] <British_Intel> can some1 help me copying files, i want to copy  /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 to /media/usbdisk1/folder - but i get a Read only file system error ?
[04:24] <Biovore> Nergar: wheres swap at?
[04:24] <Biovore> Nergar: can also look in /etc/fstab
[04:24] <Nergar> Biovore, how can i open a partition editor to see my hdd? if i remember correctly sda1 is xp sda2 is edgy sda3 is feisty and sda4 is swap
[04:24] <Biovore> fdisk
[04:24] <Biovore> fdisk /dev/sda
[04:25] <asc_> danieleboyo: You'd be amazed how often that happens.  I usually recommend that people use the alternate install CD so nothing can break until it's actually installed.
[04:25] <danieleboyo> asc_: what is the difference?
[04:25] <British_Intel> can some1 help me copying files, i want to copy  /media/usbdisk/folder1/folder2/folder3 to /media/usbdisk1/folder - but i get a Read only file system error ?
[04:25] <danieleboyo> asc_: ...between alternate and 64 bit?
[04:25] <danieleboyo> i mean, desktop
[04:25] <asc_> danieleboyo: There's no GUI, so the GUI can't break.
[04:26] <Biovore> British_Intel: yes.. because /media/usbdisk1/folder is probably a nfts filesystem.. you can't write to ntfs with stock kernels in ubuntu
[04:26] <Nergar> Biovore, unable to open
[04:26] <asc_> danieleboyo: (it just uses a windows-esque text-mode installer)
[04:26] <Biovore> Nergar: you doing it as root?
[04:26] <herold> danieleboyo: try writeing your CD at a slower speed
[04:26] <Nergar> lol
[04:26] <danieleboyo> asc_: oh...alright! well that sounds fair enough...and i dont think its that, because all of the regular desktop ubuntu cds dont work :(
[04:26] <danieleboyo> asc_: but knoppix worked just fine oddly enough. . .
[04:27] <British_Intel> Biovore, i need to copy those files in linux because in windows the hdd i want to copy from is unreadable, any live cd distro able to do it ?
[04:27] <asc_> danieleboyo: Just out of curiosity... do you have an ATI 3D card?
[04:27] <mrbrdo> how can i find out if my kernel is 64bit?
[04:27] <danieleboyo> asc_: nope, nvidia 6600GT
[04:27] <mackinac> mrbrdo, uname -a
[04:27] <mrbrdo> no
[04:27] <Biovore> British_Intel: knoppix I think will do it.. but writing to NTFS in linux is HIGHLY not recommened.. it will eat your disk!!!
[04:27] <leafw> any known solution for amd64, Xorg crashing on "Could not open default font 'fixed' " ?
[04:27] <mackinac> yes
[04:27] <mrbrdo> it says generic anyway
[04:27] <Nergar> Biovore, The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9729.
[04:27] <mackinac> you did -a not -r ?
[04:28] <mrbrdo> ah wtf, it's SMP too
[04:28] <Biovore> Nergar: thats nice..  what dose p option in fdisk show (should show the partion table)
[04:28] <mrbrdo> :S
[04:28] <British_Intel> what about if i was to format the destination drive to fat32 ?
[04:28] <asc_> danieleboyo: Huh, funky.  If you can get to a command like, I'd try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... if you can get the livecd working, you won't have to worry about the install not working.
[04:28] <mrbrdo> mackinac: is there a non SMP version too? O_o
[04:28] <Biovore> British_Intel: that works,. fat32 is well know
[04:28] <asc_> danieleboyo: s/like/line
[04:28] <Nergar> Biovore, -l??
[04:28] <EchoBinary> greetings all :)
[04:28] <Biovore> British_Intel: NTFS isn't supported well because M$ keeps changing it on us..
[04:28] <British_Intel> kk how can i format to fat32 in ubuntu
[04:29] <danieleboyo> asc_: no that i have realized, cuz the insall is nice, but command line from a gui that is just a bunch of yellow horizontal bars?
[04:29] <British_Intel> MS = micrshaft thats y lol
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> woot
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <crowley1027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDjWJyh_0o
[04:29] <asc_> danieleboyo: try hitting control-alt-F1
[04:29] <Nergar> Biovore, can i pm u??
[04:29] <blablablablano> how do i bring my laptop out of standby
[04:29] <EchoBinary> about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[04:29] <Biovore> Nergar: lolz.. I just tryed that on my box and it shows me having 1 freebsd partioon on the box..  I don't have freebsd installed.. I wonder how that happend..   Yes.. pm away..
[04:30] <danieleboyo> asc_: hmm...would the alternate cd work and work with x?
[04:30] <Biovore> Nergar: if pm's work.. kinda funky on freenode.. I havn't figure out whats up with it..
[04:30] <herold> British : I have a fat32  partion that I use to share files between win XP and linux and it works great
[04:30] <asc_> danieleboyo: The alternate cd doesn't try to start X until you boot the computer after installation.
[04:30] <legistrate> can anyone point to a link on how to repartion my harddisk in ubuntu?
[04:30] <EchoBinary> gparted?
[04:30] <British_Intel> how can i formatt my hdd to fat32 in ubuntu tho
[04:31] <danieleboyo> asc_: no i know, do you think X will work when it reboots?
[04:31] <Biovore> British_Intel: I don't know if the live disk has mkfs.vfat on it
[04:31] <sink_> hi!
[04:31] <asc_> danieleboyo: No idea.  But it *is* possible to get it working.
[04:31] <British_Intel> how i find that out lol
[04:32] <danieleboyo> asc_: in live cd you mean? or just otherwise...because im not very good at command lining (i can do the basics...but fixing x i dont know )
[04:33] <herold> British_Intel: I have 4 primary portations ntfs fat32 ext3 and swap
[04:33] <asc_> danieleboyo: Probably both, probably.  I don't have much experience with the livecd, but it should be identical to a default ubuntu install.
[04:33] <British_Intel> ooo
[04:33] <danieleboyo> asc_: hmm...so what should i do?
[04:33] <dragon> hey can anyone tell me why when i do apt-get update i get conection refused for all the sources .... i only just installed this system ...
[04:33] <asc_> danieleboyo: did control-alt-F1 get you to a command line?
[04:34] <danieleboyo> oh
[04:34] <cables> dragon, server down maybe?
[04:34] <danieleboyo> well, this i am on the computer i would be installing it on now :S
[04:34] <EchoBinary> about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[04:34] <dragon> every server in mi apt sourses list ...?
[04:34] <AdamBerg> i've got my updates working. i noticed i was able to do them when i was plugged directly into the modem and not the router. however, i have more than one computer and want to use my router. does anyone know why this could be happening
[04:34] <dragon> dosint sound verry likely ...
[04:34] <oggy> erm these are my speakers , im trying to connect them to my phillips hdtv 30" tv what connectors do I use
[04:34] <oggy> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2177,CONTENTID=9486#Specifications
[04:34] <British_Intel> brb
[04:35] <cryosphere> how do I login as root in ubuntu
[04:35] <AdamBerg> sudo -s ?
[04:35] <cryosphere> i dont remember even setting the root password
[04:35] <cryosphere> during the HD installation
[04:35] <herold> British_Intel: the fat32 is the largest I use it for my docs in windows and i am able to access it from Ubuntu
[04:35] <AdamBerg> crysophere: it is sudo -s
[04:35] <cryosphere> Adam: thanks
[04:36] <quaal> hey does anyone here use azureus
[04:36] <cryosphere> also how can I monitor my CPU frequency
[04:36] <shatrat> quaal, I do
[04:36] <asc_> danieleboyo: I've dinner soon.  I'd try the livecd again; if you can get to the command line, do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.  Use the 'nv' diver.  Defaults should mostly be okay for the rest of the configuration, except monitor size (use 'simple').
[04:36] <British_Intel> quaal: i use it, whats the problem ?
[04:37] <shatrat> cryosphere, theres something you can add to gnome-panel to display your freq.  just right click and add to panel and look for it
[04:37] <quaal> shatrat would you mind showing me what your azureus install directory looks like? i made the mistake of installing it to /home/username/.azureus where all the config files go
[04:37] <cryosphere> it important (I need to block the top freq step, otherwise I overheat)
[04:37] <cryosphere> ok, is there a command
[04:37] <cryosphere> i used to know it
[04:37] <cryosphere> Im not running gnome
[04:37] <danieleboyo> asc_: alright thanks alot !
[04:38] <danieleboyo> asc_: enjoy your dinner!
[04:38] <asc_> danieleboyo: Hm, and after trying that, so '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' to try video again.  Good luck with that.
[04:38] <AdamBerg> i've got my updates working. i noticed i was able to do them when i was plugged directly into the modem and not the router. however, i have more than one computer and want to use my router. does anyone know why this could be happening
[04:38] <danieleboyo> thanks
[04:39] <seeds> hello. please i need some help. I reinstalled ubuntu today but now i can't see windows xp in grub
[04:39] <seeds> what can i do?
[04:39] <linux_kid> AdamBerg: is this a wifi problem or an update problem?
[04:39] <quaal> seeds, hmm
[04:39] <quaal> it was fine before you 'reinstalled' ?
[04:39] <cryosphere> its apt-get update/upgrade the best way to stay current?
[04:39] <roostishaw> Is there a noticeable difference between a 386-NO SMP and a 686-WITH SMP (kernels)?
[04:40] <l337dexter> does anyone know of a way to get the linux wireless working on bcm43xx cards?
[04:40] <shatrat> quaal, well, I installed using synaptic and then extracted the official azureus jar from sourceforge into its directory to fix the bugs with the repo version
[04:40] <pike_> good lord what have you guys done with my simple little inittab file?
[04:40] <pike_> event.d ..
[04:40] <quaal> shatrat, hmm. i originally installed with the repository also, but azureus was disappearing randomly. so i downloaded from the website
[04:41] <quaal> shatrat, where did you put the azureus files ?
[04:41] <linux_kid> roostishaw, yes, almost no apps run in 64bit kernels
[04:41] <tim167> does gparted allow making a new partition in unused diskspace and install new os in there ?
[04:41] <quaal> shatrat, or where are they
[04:41] <linux_kid> tim167: yes, it does
[04:41] <roostishaw> linux_kid: crap. really?
[04:41] <shatrat> quaal, trying to remember
[04:41] <dragon> can someone please give me a copy of their sources list for edgy?
[04:42] <tim167> linux_kid: so i can do this: make new partition on my drive which has a broken ubuntu on it, and install a new ubuntu in new partition ?
[04:42] <seeds> quaal: it was fine
[04:42] <linux_kid> roostishaw: run the 32bit ubuntu version, not the 64bit
[04:42] <shatrat> !sourceomatic | dragon
[04:42] <ubotu> dragon: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:43] <linux_kid> tim167: why not just reformat broken ubuntu and install on newly formatted partition?
[04:43] <astroboy> < /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off > .. any solutions ? Won't boot & I can't access a lot of work I have done .. urgh@#$
[04:43] <frogzoo> !easysource | dragon
[04:43] <nexousNET> Hi, How do I have all icons on desktop automatically resized?
[04:43] <bruenig> dragon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5671/
[04:43] <shatrat> quaal, I cant find it, but there was a post on the ubuntuforums.org about fixing azureus by extracting the .jar into it
[04:43] <l337dexter> does anyone know of a way to get the linux wireless working on bcm43xx cards?
[04:44] <linux_kid> l337dexter: what card number do you have?
[04:44] <tim167> linux_kid: i have no empty diskspace to make a complete backup, i want to keep as much on it as possible
[04:44] <shatrat> l337dexter, check the broadcom how-to on the ubuntuforums.org, worked for me.
[04:44] <l337dexter> 4318
[04:44] <leafw> how can I print the package dependencies of a package
[04:44] <linux_kid> tim167: what you previously stated should work fine
[04:44] <leafw> there is way, I've done it before
[04:45] <kupesoft> If anyone is running Ubuntu 6.06 / Dapper Drake Server Edition, please pm me.  I have a quick question to ask,
[04:45] <linux_kid> !anyone | kupesoft
[04:45] <ubotu> kupesoft: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:45] <bruenig> leafw, apt-cache show package | grep Depends
[04:45] <leafw> thanks
[04:45] <astroboy> ubotu: I did that, no result .. (:-)
[04:46] <kupesoft> linux_kid: How would you recommend I have restructured my question?
[04:46] <bruenig> !ubotu
[04:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:46] <linux_kid> kupesoft: whats your problem?
[04:46] <sink_> i've a little question, what's the name of log which save starting, ending reboot and things like that?
[04:46] <tim167> linux_kid: i'm going to try that, i'm looking at fdisk now, or do you recommend installing gparted ?
[04:46] <bruenig> kupesoft, actually ask your question, that wouldn't be a restructure per se but a real question
[04:47] <cafuego_> l337dexter: Plonk it onto the 11Mbit rate and install the bcm43xx firmware. Should be fine.
[04:47] <linux_kid> tim167: you have to use a liveboot cd to change partitions
[04:47] <kupesoft> The Edgy/server kernel doesn't come with the madwifi module and there's basically no way of installing it without compiling by hand.  I'm curious if the same situation exists for the Dapper server kernel.
[04:47] <cafuego_> kupesoft: probably. Just install the normal kernel.
[04:47] <tim167> linux_kid: ubuntu live cd any good for that ?
[04:48] <linux_kid> tim167: yes
[04:48] <kupesoft> cafuego_: I'm not looking to install it.  I'm writing some documentation for madwifi.
[04:48] <cafuego_> kupesoft: aaahhh.
[04:48] <kupesoft> cafuego_: Hence the "If anyone..."
[04:49] <cafuego_> kupesoft: Well, as luck would have it..
[04:49] <kupesoft> cafuego_: You're running dapper/server?
[04:49] <bruenig> kupesoft, but don't you think it would make more sense to ask everyone at once, so that those who have dapper server but don't know, don't waste their and your time pming you
[04:49] <cafuego_> Linux vitta 2.6.15-28-server #1 SMP Thu Feb 1 16:58:14 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:49] <leafw> @#@$#@$%@! Could not find default font "fixed"
[04:49] <leafw> the livecd works ... the installation doesn't
[04:49] <leafw> makes no sense
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: modprobe -l ath_pci
[04:50] <tim167> linux_kid: rebooting now, there is a nested live cd (dynebolic) on this hd, will ubuntu install cd's repartitioning tool see this or regard it as empty space ?
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: sudo modprobe -l ath_pci
[04:50] <daev> Realtek AC97 Codec (sound card) -- can't seem to get the driver installed. after './install' i get a long list of errors.
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: What's your output?
[04:50] <cafuego_> kupesoft: It has no restricted-modules, so there is no atheros.
[04:50] <cafuego_> kupesoft: (no output)
[04:50] <__mikem> leafw, in the boot screen for the disk, there should be a thing to check and make sure the disk isn't curupt, run it.
[04:50] <kupesoft> cafuego_: I figured as much.  Thank you kindly!
[04:50] <blazemonger> anyone here use Debian AND Ubuntu on the same system?
[04:51] <tim167> linux_kid: i spose its just inside the main linux partition, because i can see it on /mnt/hd1/1/dyne
[04:51] <__mikem> leafw if that doesn't work, try the "alternative" instalation cd image on the ubuntu website
[04:51] <leafw> __mikem : I did. The disks are fine.
[04:51] <leafw> and the CD is fine too
[04:51] <l337dexter> how do you add the other repos on edgy eft?
[04:51] <__mikem> okay, then try the alternative install cd
[04:51] <blazemonger> another thing.i've noticed bugs in edgy..that aren't in debian
[04:51] <__mikem> by the way, what version are you using
[04:51] <linux_kid> tim167: excuse me, but what is on /mnt/hd1/1/dyne ?
[04:51] <blazemonger> but there's some things ubuntu is better with like audio
[04:52] <leafw> __mikem: I installed from the alternate, no other way to setuo LVM otherwise. Then I sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <leafw> amd64 here
[04:52] <leafw> well. EMT64, but for ubuntu that's the saem
[04:52] <tim167> linux_kid: a 'nested' live cd named dynebolic (www.dynebolic.org)
[04:52] <__mikem> oh, are you using the 64 bit version of ubuntu (it doesn't matter, I am just curious)
[04:53] <__mikem> oh crap
[04:53] <tim167> linux_kid: this allows it to be booted from hd instead of cd
[04:53] <linux_kid> tim167: im not very knowledgable in embedded live cd's, sorry
[04:53] <zero88> where do i locate programs SYnaptic downloads?
[04:54] <nalioth> zero88: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:54] <__mikem> hey nalioth
[04:54] <nalioth> hi __mikem
[04:55] <zero88> nalioth thanks, how would i load it through a terminal and have it run still after closing the terminal window?
[04:55] <shiv> nalioth: Hi
[04:55] <__mikem> hey Madpilot
[04:55] <Madpilot> __mikem, hi
[04:55] <quaal> British_Intel, hey you still around?
[04:55] <nalioth> zero88: how would you load what?
[04:55] <AdamBer1> i just used the package loader to get the nvidia drivers
[04:55] <shiv> nalioth: were u associated with arklinux at any time?
[04:56] <AdamBer1> however, i can't change my resolution to widescreen yet
[04:56] <zero88> nalioth, Firestarter, i can load it through the termianl but want to keep it loaded after closing the terminal window
[04:56] <nalioth> shiv: i was not.
[04:56] <nalioth> zero88: any changes you make with firestarter will be retained until you change the settings again
[04:56] <__mikem> Madpilot, I don't know if this is your department, but would you mind checking the cd image for the 64 bit version of ubuntu on the website, I have someone saying that the installer isn't working properly complaining about a missing font file, the guy appears to know what he is talking about, and insists the cd selfcheck returned no errors
[04:57] <EchoBinar1> im back!
[04:57] <EchoBinar1> about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[04:57] <Madpilot> __mikem, not my department at all - file a bug @ bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <__mikem> okay
[04:57] <zero88> nalioth, i dont understand?
[04:57] <blazemonger> why is it that Ubuntu is slow ?
[04:57] <daev> your computer is lacking ram?
[04:57] <blazemonger> Debian is very fast on my older p4 system but with Ubuntu
[04:57] <__mikem> leafw, if you believe heres a problem with the cd image on the website, you can file a bug report at bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <nalioth> zero88: firestarter is just a frontend to iptables.  once you make changes in firestarter, they are kept until you change them again
[04:57] <blazemonger> 768 megabytes of memory is LOW AMOUNT!?!?
[04:58] <shatrat> blazemonger, no video acceleration?
[04:58] <blazemonger> nope
[04:58] <daev> its what i'm running on ubuntu, and i have no problems
[04:58] <blazemonger> but things run just FINE in Debian though
[04:58] <leafw> __mikem : Xorg.0.log reported I needed to run mkfontdir on a certain folder .. I did, nothing changed
[04:59] <zero88> nalioth, ya i know, i mean say i opened a terminal window.and i type $ firestarter, it will load and work fine.but say i didnt want that terminal window that started firestarter anymore open,nd i closed it,it will close firestarter also,how do i keep firestarter running if i close the window
[04:59] <__mikem> leafw, like I said, it sounds like a problem with the cd, I personally didn't have any problems with my install cd, but I am not using the 64 bit version. I would recomend you file a bug report at bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:59] <Madpilot> zero88, System menu->Admin->Firestarter
[04:59] <ardchoille> blazemonger: Ubuntu is not debian. It may be that the way you are doing things on debian is causing Ubuntu to be slow. You can't do things the same way on every distro and expect the same outcome.
[05:00] <leafw> __mikem : the CD did a minimal install, I installed everything from the repos
[05:00] <zero88> Madpilot thanks
[05:00] <__mikem> leafw, okay.
[05:00] <trollboy> is there a package for mod-rewrite
[05:00] <ptl> hello all... I hope you can help me, I have googled all over with no solution. I recently updated libatk and some other gnome package and now gnome fonts are not appearing. To make things worse, apt-get/apt-cache/aptitude/synaptic etc. are all dumping core, so I can't automatically update/upgrade or reinstall packages, only with dpkg.
[05:00] <ptl> the fonts appear as "squares"
[05:01] <ptl> I need to fix my ubuntu installation... dapper
[05:01] <ptl> how can I do that?
[05:01] <ptl> I have found an udeb of libatk, what's the use of an 'udeb'?
[05:01] <__mikem> pt1, not that it matters, but Ubuntu Edgy Eft is out, and way nicer than dapper.
[05:01] <ptl> oops
[05:01] <__mikem> pt1 have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <ptl> __mikem: sorry, I meant edgy
[05:02] <ptl> xorg.conf was not deconfigured/changed at all
[05:02] <EchoBinary> lol
[05:02] <__mikem> pt1, yes, but your fonts may have been curupted or overwriten by something
[05:02] <__mikem> reinstalling xorg may fix that
[05:02] <nemesis> hi all
[05:03] <nemesis> anyone knows which is the file where gnome stores the programs launched at startup?
[05:03] <tim167> ok i'm going to reinstall ubuntu by simply choosing to automatically resize a partition and use freed space in the live cd installer...and hope i dont loose any data, if this sounds like a bad idea, stop me :)
[05:03] <ptl> reinstalling all x11 packages, __mikem ?
[05:03] <ptl> it is just gnome fonts that doesn't
[05:03] <ptl> but the weird thing is that all KDE fonts work
[05:03] <__mikem> pt1, do you know what package the gnome fonts are in?
[05:04] <ptl> __mikem: not really
[05:04] <nalioth> zero88: open it with "firestarter &"
[05:04] <__mikem> pt1, and yes I would go ahead and reinstall the x11 packages
[05:04] <nalioth> !tell zero88 about cli
[05:04] <__mikem> nalioth, what package is the gnome fonts in?
[05:04] <nalioth> __mikem: use apt-cache search
[05:05] <ptl> nalioth: I can't use apt-cache search, it dumps core
[05:05] <nalioth> ptl: then use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:06] <__mikem> sounds to me like something just $#!+ itself on his machine
[05:06] <ptl> __mikem: it was all working ok till today...
[05:06] <UntouchableMX> waz up
[05:06] <__mikem> pt1, what did you install when this happened
[05:07] <minimec> hi. What are the system requierements of totem? I have a PIII 400 with a ATI Rage pro (direct rendering 'on'), but I am not capable to play the 'mandela-example-movie'
[05:07] <ptl> I installed a bunch of -dev packages (libgtk2.0 and libatk1.0, which had not the -ubuntu suffix, had to be downgraded by minor versions)
[05:07] <UntouchableMX> can some one help me to install apache???
[05:08] <nrdb> I have heard a romour that the PPC is to be droped from the officially support.  Is this true ?
[05:08] <__mikem> pt1, that shouldn't have broken anything. DId you do anything else that may have caused this?
[05:08] <newest007> hey there, has anyone installed doom on linux before?
[05:08] <__mikem> nalioth, why was leafw just k-lined
[05:08] <newest007> im having a little difficulty installing the game
[05:08] <daveyates> doom, doom2, or doom3?
[05:08] <newest007> doom, doom2
[05:09] <newest007> i think the package is called doomsday
[05:09] <UntouchableMX> please some one help to install apache
[05:09] <tim167> ubuntu intaller is resizing partition, it stays at 0%...is it working ? how long should this take ?
[05:11] <UntouchableMX> please some one help me
[05:11] <nalioth> !tell UntouchableMX about lamp
[05:12] <EchoBinary> anyone hre have exp with VMWare?
[05:12] <UntouchableMX> well I just downloaded apache http server and I want to install it
[05:12] <racerii> how do I check what version of ubuntu I have? trying to update my source.list
[05:12] <__mikem> EchoBinary, yes
[05:12] <Pie-rate> Why don't ubuntu's automatic updates give me Linux Genuine Advantage without my consent? what a crappy product.
[05:13] <blanky> how can I easily convert mp3 to ogg, mencoder?
[05:13] <EchoBinary> _mikem: about to set up xubuntu (edgy) to be a vmware server, had a thought, how will the hard drives interact?   is it reasonable to expect the xubuntu server drive to be able to see the data on the vm drives and vice versa?
[05:13] <blanky> anyone, I'm in a hurry
[05:13] <jrib> Pie-rate: they do, they also don't inform you though
[05:13] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[05:13] <nalioth> UntouchableMX: check your private messages, there is no reason to download anything, apache is in the repos
[05:13] <newest007> this is the link to the page ive been following to install doom: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330839&highlight=doom   although im having problems when i get to the 'moment of truth' and using the code ./doom, it says that theres no such file!?
[05:13] <GigaClon> any ideas on how to fix?
[05:13] <__mikem> EchoBinary, are you using a physical hard drive for the virtual machine or a virtual disk file
[05:13] <tim167> blanky: mplayer
[05:14] <Pie-rate> jrib: but my computer hasn't been crippled yet, and its past the grace period
[05:14] <blanky> tim167: command line? what's the command, please?
[05:14] <billybob> Pie-rate: actuall you DO consent to genuine advantage, try installing update manually sometime ;)
[05:14] <EchoBinary> right - understand that part, but what if I want to transfer files off the virtual machine onto th ehost
[05:14] <EchoBinary> the host*
[05:14] <jrib> Pie-rate: file a bug
[05:14] <__mikem> EchoBinary, you have several options there
[05:14] <racerii> how do I check which version of ubuntu I have?
[05:14] <tim167> blanky: sorry dont remember, its been a while
[05:14] <jrib> !version | racerii
[05:14] <ubotu> racerii: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[05:15] <daev> Realtek AC97 Codec (sound card) -- can't seem to get the driver installed. after './install' i get a long list of errors.
[05:15] <billybob> same old syndrome, no matter what OS 'clickity clickity clickity' . . .
[05:15] <blanky> anyone know what I can use to convert mp3 to ogg fast
[05:15] <__mikem> EchoBInary, do you have a lan set up with smb shares on it?
[05:15] <racerii> thanks jrib
[05:15] <blanky> !restrictedformats
[05:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <EchoBinary> yeap
[05:15] <blanky> how?
[05:15] <__mikem> okay, do you know the Local IP address of the server
[05:15] <EchoBinary> ok, so ill have to use the network to transfer files
[05:15] <__mikem> yes thats the idea
[05:16] <EchoBinary> *nod* alrighty - that's cool
[05:16] <cables> blanky, you could probably make a script to run it first through LAME then some vorbis encoder
[05:16] <__mikem> if you were using vmware workstation, you could also use whats called a shared folder
[05:16] <__mikem> but I don't think vmware server supports that feature
[05:16] <EchoBinary> the idea is that the host will also be a file server
[05:16] <__mikem> yes I understand
[05:16] <blanky> cables: I just want to convert ONE mp3 file haha, no need to go overkill, thanks though
[05:16] <Pie-rate> cool, if you try to run the windows genuine advantage on linux with firefox, it gives you an endless loop of javascript alerts
[05:16] <cables> blanky, if it's just 1 that you want to convert, you can use Audacity
[05:16] <EchoBinary> but the VM's will have access to the "outside world"
[05:16] <EchoBinary> and the host idealy will not
[05:16] <blanky> cables: thanks I know that, I Was wondering if there was a fast easy way, maybe mencoder
[05:17] <__mikem> EchoBinary, if the host doesn't have access to the outside world, I don't see any way in which the virtual machine will, infact that doesn't even make sense
[05:17] <tim167> blankey: i have a script that does m4a to mp3 if you want
[05:17] <cables> blanky, it'll be faster to download Audacity and use it than it will be to figure out Mencoder for 1 mp3
[05:17] <EchoBinary> is there any way to configure the VMs to use one NIC and the host to use another?
[05:17] <blanky> cables: I know, I was just WONDERING if anyone knew the command at the top of their head, I'll do that though
[05:17] <Biovore> EchoBinary: VM ware?
[05:18] <cables> blanky, ok
[05:18] <__mikem> EchoBinary, I never tried it, I always used a network bridge
[05:18] <__mikem> And I am using VMware workstation
[05:18] <__mikem> not VMware server
[05:18] <EchoBinary> hmmm
[05:19] <Biovore> EchoBinary: VMware Workstation I think you have to manual hack the VM after you make it to use a certian interface.. I think it can be done..
[05:19] <__mikem> Biovore, he is not using Workstation
[05:19] <tim167> what should i do now: chose install in ubuntu live cd, resize partition, started it, but it stays at 0%, if i interrupt it will it break my harddisk ?
[05:19] <EchoBinary> Biovore: interested in using VMware Server
[05:20] <Biovore> EchoBinary: I think they support that..  I am not sure how..  check with vmware.
[05:20] <__mikem> EchoBinary, I personally recomend you use vmware player over vmware workstation, because workstation has a very poor graphics layer and consequentially trying to run X will result in painfully slow performance
[05:20] <__mikem> s/workstation/server
[05:21] <frogzoo> EchoBinary: there should be a script vmware-config.pl somewhere, that will configure your networking
[05:21] <EchoBinary> ..  I suppose my goal is a more secure system - am I overthinking it?  should I just lock down my install and have it be that way?
[05:21] <__mikem> EchoBinary why not just use a firewall
[05:21] <EchoBinary> I am - but I poke lots of holes for various reasons
[05:21] <frogzoo> EchoBinary: tbh windows VMs on a linux box are a security threat, & you're best off firewalling them
[05:21] <EchoBinary> torrents, web serving, media sharing etc
[05:22] <tim167> how long does repartitioning take normally on a 100gb hd? 15 minutes? 1 h ? 1 day ?
[05:22] <foutrelis> hey :)
[05:22] <EchoBinary> not planning to use windows VMs on my box
[05:22] <Biovore> tim167: 10 secs to partition
[05:22] <frogzoo> tim167: 15 mins for a full format - quick format 30secs
[05:22] <foutrelis> tim167: A few minutes
[05:22] <EchoBinary> in fact, was thinking of other ubuntus or freebsd
[05:22] <foutrelis> tim167: or seconds :P
[05:22] <__mikem> frogzoo how is having a windows vm on a linux box a security threat?
[05:22] <Biovore> tim167: maybe 3 mins to format..
[05:22] <frogzoo> mikefoo: viruses plus it's hackable
[05:23] <tim167> hm it was just at 0% in repartitioning process for about 30 minutes
[05:23] <EchoBinary> bad administration is a security threat no matter the platform/OS
[05:23] <__mikem> wow, the list of reasons not to use windows grows ever longer
[05:23] <foutrelis> tim167: I don't think that's normal.. :S
[05:24] <tim167> i canceled it, and now, strangely enough, it seems like all is fine, it asks me to install ubuntu to new partition
[05:24] <cryosphere> is there anyway to see everything that appeared on my screen during start up?
[05:24] <EchoBinary> dmesg?
[05:24] <__mikem> cryosphere try looking at the screen
[05:24] <cryosphere> hmm
[05:24] <cryosphere> well YES, but is it logged somewhere?
[05:24] <EchoBinary> dmesg might help a lil
[05:25] <seeds> please i need some help. I reinstalled ubuntu today but now i can't see windows xp in grub
[05:25] <tim167> can i choose NOT to install grub ? (because i want to keep my old grub menu)
[05:25] <frogzoo> seeds: multiple hard drives?
[05:25] <cryosphere> does dmesg contain everything from the start
[05:25] <cryosphere> ?
[05:25] <seeds> frogzoo: no, just 1
[05:25] <EchoBinary> not sure actually
[05:25] <forQed> Is there a way to stop Vitual ethernet so /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl will work?
[05:25] <EchoBinary> but I found it helpful in my slackware days
[05:26] <UntouchableMX_> I have the apache http server file, and I want to install it
[05:26] <__mikem> !duelboot
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duelboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <__mikem> crap
[05:26] <ReKlipz> hey guys, ive got a question about network bridges
[05:26] <__mikem> I used to know of a factoid that would have addressed seeds' problem
[05:26] <jml> how can I get emacs to use the Bitstream Mono font
[05:26] <foutrelis> !dualboot
[05:26] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:26] <foutrelis> :)
[05:26] <cryosphere> Echo: right I sure either, the reason I asking is becase my laptop will connect to the internet and recognize my USB devices one time out of every 5 times I boot  . . .
[05:26] <tim167> if gparted says space is unallocated, can i trust it ?
[05:27] <__mikem> there we go
[05:27] <cryosphere> *i NOT sure either
[05:27] <__mikem> !dualboot | seeds
[05:27] <ubotu> seeds: please see above
[05:27] <frogzoo> seeds: in /boot/grub/menu.lst  - at the bottom, should be something like rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[05:27] <seeds> !dualboot
[05:27] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:27] <UntouchableMX_> any one willing to help a n00b
[05:27] <ReKlipz> Ive got a windows box with 2 ethernet ports and a wifi card. It gets inet via wifi. Ive got a box i just put ubuntu on, which has an ethernet port. Is there anyway to get internet to the ubuntu box by hooking it up to the windows box?
[05:27] <cables> !ask | UntouchableMX_
[05:27] <ubotu> UntouchableMX_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:28] <foutrelis> !ask | UntouchableMX_
[05:28] <UntouchableMX_> how to install apache
[05:28] <__mikem> !lamp
[05:28] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:28] <ReKlipz> sudo apt-get install apache
[05:28] <foutrelis> UntouchableMX_: Try using Synaptic :)
[05:29] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: easiest is to enable net sharing on the doze box, and then point the ubuntu to the doze box as default gateway
[05:29] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, so the ubuntu will get to the internet that way?
[05:29] <UntouchableMX_> and after it finishes how do run it in graphical mode, because I intall mysql and dont know how to run it in graphical mode
[05:29] <seeds> frogzoo: there isn't somehitng like rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[05:29] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: should do
[05:30] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, will i need a crossover or just a regular patch (ive got both)
[05:30] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: nic to nic (no hub) you want a crossover
[05:30] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, and as far as ip's, just static 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 or something else?
[05:30] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: definately use static
[05:30] <foutrelis> UntouchableMX_: Use Synaptic to install phpmyadmin, mysql-server-5.0 and php5. Then you will have a LAMP environment ready to use :)
[05:30] <ReKlipz> k, ill give it a shot
[05:31] <__mikem> well, I am going to bed
[05:31] <__mikem> night
[05:31] <jeff_> anyone have any leads as to what might cause telnet to refuse connection, even from the same server?
[05:31] <ReKlipz> to assign ip's in linux, sudo ifconfig eth0 <what here?>
[05:31] <jeff_> hunted all over can't pint it down
[05:32] <nightlogin> hallo
[05:33] <justme_> jeff, is telnet-server installed?
[05:33] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, how do i make the ubuntu point to the doze box as its gateway, just put the doze's box in for the gateway ip?
[05:33] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: /etc/network/interfaces  gateway=x.x.x.x
[05:33] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: /etc/network/interfaces  gateway x.x.x.x
[05:34] <ReKlipz> k
[05:34] <jeff_> justme i have telnet and telnetd installed
[05:35] <jeff_> a line for telnet shows up in inetd.conf
[05:35] <ReKlipz> do i need to reboot or anything?
[05:35] <justme_> jeff what verison of ubuntu?
[05:35] <ReKlipz> or just down / up the thing?
[05:35] <jeff_> 6.10
[05:35] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[05:36] <ReKlipz> its trying to do dhcp...
[05:36] <ReKlipz> when i do ifup
[05:37] <ReKlipz> its got a line: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:37] <steelb> anyway to get extended ascii to work in ubuntu?
[05:37] <Biovore> steelb: well your in unicode in linux
[05:37] <steelb> but... my passwords
[05:37] <justme_> jeff, just tried it on my 6.10 got the same issue.  Give me a few........
[05:37] <Biovore> steelb: gnucharmap
[05:38] <AfC> What would be a [web?]  way of finding out what something is packaged as in Ubuntu and at what versions? Obviously there are tools to do so on an Ubuntu box, but for someone not running the distro, is there somewhere they can look?
[05:38] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: should read iface eth0 inet static  - the gateway x.x.x goes under that in same para
[05:38] <jeff_> justme, ty :) i was going nuts (short trip for me tho)
[05:38] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, ya, and the gateway is just the ip of the doze box
[05:38] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: you'll need address/netmask specs also
[05:38] <ReKlipz> k
[05:38] <steelb> thanks biovore
[05:38] <ReKlipz> they're there
[05:39] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, that didnt work
[05:39] <ReKlipz> cant reach google.com
[05:39] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: can you ping doze?
[05:39] <ReKlipz> lets see
[05:40] <ReKlipz> nope
[05:40] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: check ip setting on doze
[05:40] <ReKlipz> ip: 10.0.0.1, submas: 255.0.0.0, default gateway: (blank)
[05:40] <ReKlipz> thats the doze
[05:41] <ReKlipz> ubuntu is ip: 10.0.0.2, submask: 255.255.255.0, gateway: 10.0.0.1
[05:41] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: k, ifconfig on the linux box should give an ip, & route -n the route table
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm wondering if there's a way to set up a separate little desktop that a remote client would receive, instead of the host's regular desktop.
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> With its own custom resolution.
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> RE: VNC
[05:42] <BHSPitMonkey> Sorry, I left the intro sentence out. Heh.
[05:42] <ljlolel> When I run gv, ghostscript message "Unknown device: x11" is issued.
[05:42] <wasabi_> BHSPitMonkey: THat's traditionally how VNC works.
[05:42] <wasabi_> BHSPitMonkey: install a VNC server, and run it.
[05:43] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: ubuntu box: inet addr: 10.0.0.2 Bcast:10.0.0.255 mask:255.255.255.0
[05:43] <BHSPitMonkey> wasabi_, yeah, but I'm only used to setting it up to 0:0
[05:43] <wasabi_> apt-cache search vnc server
[05:43] <ReKlipz> route -n: destination: 10.0.0.0 gateway: 0.0.0.0 genmask:255.255.255.0 flags:u metric:0 ref:0 use:0 iface:eth0
[05:44] <aleka> I get Choppy sound when playing streaming video in Realplayer 10 Gold (video format=.smil) is there any known workaround for this??
[05:45] <ReKlipz> frogzoo k, i can ping the doze box now
[05:45] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, now theres another entry in the route table
[05:46] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: k, you'll need to set /etc/resolv.conf to point to a dns server too
[05:46] <K|NgGh0sT> if I wanted to dispay the first 5 lines in a txt file, and no more that have a keyword what would that syntext be?
[05:46] <frogzoo> K|NgGh0sT: head -5 blah
[05:47] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: how do i enable sharing on the doze box, just turn inet connection sharing on and choose the connection that is getting inet?
[05:47] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: there's a wizard "enable networking" & you select allow lan to access internet through this host
[05:48] <ReKlipz> k
[05:48] <K|NgGh0sT> frogzoo, that just shows the first five lines, not the first two lines that have say keyword 'test'
[05:48] <peshalto> grep test | head 5
[05:48] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: what do i do for the /etc/resolv.conf, where do iget a dns server ip from?
[05:48] <peshalto> er
[05:48] <peshalto> grep test filename | head 5
[05:48] <K|NgGh0sT> sweet thanks
[05:49] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: you'll probably get away with pointing to the doze box as the dns server
[05:49] <peshalto> K|NgGh0sT: your comma was in a weird place, so your question wasn't clear...
[05:49] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: k, there is no resolv.conf in etc
[05:50] <peshalto> is it easy to get two monitors working with ubuntu?
[05:50] <andres_> as i install beryl in my kubuntu edgy?
[05:50] <justme_> jeff, checkout this link  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html%22***%3C/t-19344.html
[05:50] <frogzoo> peshalto: it's not straight forward, if you know what you're doing it's not hard
[05:50] <peshalto> I tried a couple weeks ago, and it seemed like a bunch of editing of x-something files was required
[05:51] <justme_> Jeff, will ssh work for you?  More secure than telnet.
[05:51] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: don't see how you can not have an /etc/resolv.conf
[05:51] <GMWeezel> If I install another video card in my computer, will Linux automatically select it over the integrated card?
[05:51] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?
[05:51] <peshalto> frogzoo: I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to scan lines, interlacing, etc. (wtf?)
[05:51] <frogzoo> peshalto: nothings changed in a couple of weeks
[05:51] <peshalto> heh
[05:51] <ReKlipz> the pust is a fresh install, never online, that make it possible?
[05:51] <jeff_> justme, sure that works (assuming i can get a way to use it from an xp node)
[05:52] <yell0w> hey guys, what's p and v in the first line of the search result of aptitude stands for ?
[05:52] <jeff_> i got connection refused on ssh too
[05:52] <frogzoo> peshalto: best to google & find some sample xorg.conf you can copy off
[05:52] <frogzoo> peshalto: unless you have an ATI?
[05:52] <peshalto> frogzoo: I have an nVidia, I think it's a 5200 or something.
[05:53] <jeff_> (although ssh i'm not sure i have all packages installed, attempting to check...)
[05:53] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?
[05:53] <andres_> whoy helps me? as I Install beryl in my kubuntu edgy?
[05:53] <peshalto> that's one thing I'll never understand. how tf are we expected to know what model of hardware components we have, a few years after throwing away the box?
[05:53] <justme_> Jeff, sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:53] <frogzoo> !beryl | andres_
[05:53] <ubotu> andres_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:53] <justme_> Jeff, on xp download putty.exe
[05:54] <peshalto> my motherboard manual tells two ways to ID the specific model. when I use the two ways, the resuls conflict! :-)
[05:54] <justme_> Jeff, I use it everyday works great.
[05:54] <koregaonpark> Hey, I just upgraded to Edgy, but now my comp is taking forever to boot up. I remember the fix for this might have been disabling the boot screen.
[05:54] <K|NgGh0sT> peshalto, can you search for two different keywords in the same line?
[05:54] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: the pute is a fresh install, never online, that make it possible?
[05:54] <peshalto> K|NgGh0sT sure... string greps together: grep word1 filename | grep word2 | head 5
[05:54] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?\
[05:54] <jeff_> justme, ok installing...
[05:55] <phixnay> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers for my old computer
[05:55] <peshalto> K|NgGh0sT: that will find only lines that have both words. grep -i if you want to ignore case.
[05:55] <phixnay> Device Manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] "
[05:55] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: in that case "sudo -i ; echo nameserver 10.0.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:56] <koregaonpark> I upgraded to Edgy, but now my comp is taking forever to boot up. I don't even see the boot screen (the new black one), only a flashing cursor.
[05:56] <jeff_> ok thanks justme looks like i can at least get in from localhost with ssh;
[05:56] <frogzoo> !fixres > koregaonpark
[05:56] <justme_> Jeff, Google for putty.exe.  Its a free download.
[05:56] <ReKlipz> k
[05:56] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, k, done
[05:56] <koregaonpark> frogzoo, what?
[05:56] <jeff_> i will see if i can make it work from xp altho the next set of probs is i can't samba nor postgres sql to my ubuntu box
[05:56] <phixnay> Do I need glx-nvidia or glx-nvidia-legacy + nvidia-settings?
[05:56] <jeff_> (that
[05:56] <braniff> what linux app will open up a webpage and then save it as a windoze "compiled html file" ??
[05:57] <frogzoo> koregaonpark: read the pm from the bot
[05:57] <peshalto> frogzoo: really want to make the switch. i'm down to two programs I would miss if I switched my main machine to Linux: 1) TotalRecorder and 2) printer drivers for a Canon S900.
[05:57] <jeff_> 's another whole set of debugging i kno)
[05:57] <koregaonpark> oh, okay... frogzoo
[05:57] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, theres nothing in the file
[05:57] <ReKlipz> oops
[05:57] <ReKlipz> k, ya theres nothing in there when i load with gedit
[05:57] <koregaonpark> frogzoo, it's not a screen resolution problem! i don't see the _boot_ screen, when i turn on my comp
[05:57] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: in that case "sudo -i ; echo nameserver 10.0.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:58] <peshalto> koregaonpark: whence your handle, koregaonpark?
[05:58] <Mixx> i originally had:  hda1:ntfs windows | hda2:ext3 ubuntu || now I've used dd to copy hda2 to hdb1 but now GRUB is failing because I'm sure my MBR points to the second partition on the drive.  If I use grub-install, will it blow away my existing config?
[05:58] <justme_> Jeff, make sure xp firewall isnt blocking samba
[05:58] <st3v3dnd> Anyone know what I need to do to be able to hear sound from multiple sources at the same time? Right now, if I say have firefox running some audio, it hogs the sound card, and mplayer can't get a hold of the sound card to play its sound. Shouldn't there be multiple channels or some such to prevent this problem?
[05:58] <koregaonpark> peshalto?
[05:58] <phixnay> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers for my old computer. Device Manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] ." Do I need glx-nvidia or glx-nvidia-legacy + nvidia-settings?
[05:58] <frogzoo> Mixx: yep
[05:58] <posingaspopular> Mixx: what's the problem if you mind me asking?
[05:58] <ReKlipz> k, now it worked when i did it
[05:59] <peshalto> koregaonpark: sorry, phone rang
[05:59] <jeff_> hurrah putty works to ubuntu ty justme
[05:59] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, still no inet after an ifdown ifup
[05:59] <justme_> Jeff, np.  NIGHT!
[05:59] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: can ping doze?
[05:59] <jeff_> g'night :)
[05:59] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, yep
[05:59] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: doze = xp ?
[06:00] <ReKlipz> frogzoo - ya
[06:00] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: you've run the share internet wiz?
[06:00] <Mixx> posingaspopular I used to dual-boot ubuntu and Windows XP and now I've decided to get rid of XP (yay!) and expand the partition.  I have two similarly sized drives, one, my original, has Ubuntu on the second partition.  The second, the one I want to move to, has Ubuntu on the first partition.
[06:00] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?\
[06:00] <Mixx> posingaspopular I'm trying to recreate the MBR but keep my existing GRUB config
[06:00] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, i tried the network stup wizard, dunno where the share inet wizard is, so i tried to do it manujally using the properties window of the nic card
[06:01] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: go to network settings - LHS - setup network
[06:01] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: setup a home or small office network, k, there
[06:01] <koregaonpark> ahoy, can anyone help me please? i just upgraded to edgy and now ubuntu is taking forever to boot. i believe the solution is turning off the gui boot screen, the fancy black one with the ubuntu logo.
[06:01] <Mixx> posingaspopular of course when I boot the new drive GRUB gets an error because (i assume) it can't find the config on the second partition.  I am considering using GRUB-INSTALL to recreate the MBR, but I'm afraid it's going to completely wipe out my menu.lst etc
[06:02] <dilch> is a 2 giggerhurtz pentium or whatever able to run ubuntu?
[06:02] <frogzoo> dilch: yep
[06:02] <dilch> what about dual xeons?
[06:02] <jellobean> I am using alternate install to install umbuntu, and it does not recognize my dvd rom...any suggestions?
[06:02] <peshalto> koregaonpark: i can't help, but was curious about your handle
[06:02] <frogzoo> dilch: also yep - those machines would profit from a gig or more of ram
[06:03] <dilch> oh, and also, i'd like to run ubuntu on my sun hardware as well
[06:03] <koregaonpark> peshalto, it's the name of a neighbourhood, that's all.... you might have seen it on /. or digg where i'm an active contributor
[06:03] <frogzoo> dilch: maybe
[06:03] <gerald> which GTK package do I download for delopment
[06:03] <dilch> how about on my IBM RS6000?
[06:03] <dilch> i need to replace AIX .... so outdated now
[06:03] <peshalto> koregaonpark: heh, I used to live in that neighborhood, is why I asked
[06:03] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?\
[06:03] <ReKlipz> woot!
[06:03] <frogzoo> !sparc > dilch
[06:03] <peshalto> in pune
[06:03] <ReKlipz> frogzoo: LOVE YOU!!!!!
[06:03] <koregaonpark> peshalto, oh yeah?
[06:04] <frogzoo> heh
[06:04] <fiberchunks> avast! koregaonpark, add  splash=silent  to your boot parameters
[06:04] <phixnay> Hi, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers for my old computer. Device Manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] ." Do I need glx-nvidia or glx-nvidia-legacy + nvidia-settings? EIther way, glx doesn't work, what do I do?
[06:04] <peshalto> long long time ago
[06:04] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, there is an easier way to do it btw
[06:04] <koregaonpark> fiberchunks, how do i do that?
[06:04] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, on ubunto, turn dhcp on for the nic
[06:04] <dilch> phixnay computer says no
[06:04] <phixnay> ??
[06:04] <koregaonpark> peshalto, so, are you indian?
[06:04] <frogzoo> ReKlipz: best left off, you don't want doze trying to serve dhcp
[06:04] <peshalto> koregaonpark: o
[06:05] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, on the doze box, enable inet sharing for the wireless card and choose the nic that the linux box is connect to to share, and wham
[06:05] <peshalto> koregaonpark: no
[06:05] <ReKlipz> frogzoo, its only temporary, and it kinda forced it...
[06:05] <koregaonpark> peshalto, were you a participant in the ashram?
[06:05] <peshalto> koregaonpark: no again, but lived a couple blocks from it
[06:05] <dilch> oh, i get it .. 'doze' 'cause it's kinda stupid?
[06:05] <Vilhelms> How could I get the Windows key to be considered a modifier like Ctrl, Shift, or Alt instead of it being recognized as a key itself?
[06:05] <ReKlipz> doze cuz it short for windows, a pain to type
[06:05] <koregaonpark> peshalto, okay, cool.
[06:05] <fiberchunks> koregaonpark, when your machine boots, you can add parameters to the boot line via I believe 'f6' or something similar.  Use the key at the bottom that says "boot options"
[06:05] <Vilhelms> I want to be able to use keywords such as Windows+D
[06:05] <zorba64> windows=windoze
[06:05] <peshalto> and you?
[06:06] <dilch> zorba64 it seems rude
[06:06] <koregaonpark> fuberchunks, uhm, im quite the n00b
[06:06] <zorba64> is meant to be...a little
[06:06] <peshalto> i know people who used to frequent the ashram. sounded fun. i was too young for that kind of fun at the time.
[06:06] <ReKlipz> anyone have a better sources.list file?
[06:06] <phixnay> I'm having trouble getting video acceleration, can anyone help?
[06:06] <fiberchunks> koregaonpark, oki, wait one
[06:06] <dilch> phixnay computer says no
[06:06] <frogzoo> dilch: doze - cos it's kinda slow
[06:07] <koregaonpark> peshalto, it is fun... love the pool and the restaurants
[06:07] <Vilhelms> phixnay, What video card do you have?
[06:07] <peshalto> i don't know the pool, unless you mean the blue diamond, or there was a club with a pool.
[06:07] <phixnay> vilhelms: Device manager says I have a "NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] "
[06:07] <peshalto> is there a pool there now? I'm sure it's changed a lot.
[06:07] <ReKlipz> time to install beryl
[06:08] <koregaonpark> peshalto, no, i mean in the ashram
[06:08] <dilch> anyway, i can't wait .. i got rid of the doze and installed ubuntu so I can play "Supreme Commander" with no slowdown at all!
[06:08] <koregaonpark> theres always been one there.....
[06:08] <dilch> because everyone said ubuntu was way faster
[06:08] <Vilhelms> phixnay, run lspci | grep VGA
[06:08] <nexousNET> How do I go about playing .mov (quicktime) movies in ubuntu??
[06:08] <frogzoo> Vilhelms: sys -> prefs -> keyboad -> layout options - (windows key = super)
[06:08] <ReKlipz> wheres the default sources.list file?
[06:08] <phixnay> dilch: supreme commander! how did you get it working?
[06:08] <peshalto> koregaonpark: ok, that I understand.. but restaurants? the ashram has those too? or just the neighborhood?
[06:08] <dilch> phixnay i haven't, i'm just about to buy it
[06:08] <gerald> which package from apt-get should i download for gtk development
[06:08] <phixnay> vilhelms: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]  (rev 15)
[06:09] <dilch> phixnay of course it works on ubuntu?
[06:09] <dilch> why wouldn't it?
[06:09] <koregaonpark> always had those too... basho, zorba, mariam etc.
[06:09] <phixnay> dilch: isn't there a demo out?
[06:09] <Vilhelms> frogzoo, Thanks :)
[06:09] <peshalto> koregaonpark: are you indian?
[06:09] <frogzoo> Vilhelms: yw
[06:09] <dilch> phixnay yes, it comes out next month
[06:09] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so they are all set to go.
[06:09] <peshalto> koregaonpark: and were you at the ashram?
[06:09] <koregaonpark> peshalto, yeh...
[06:09] <koregaonpark> peshalto, still am some of the time
[06:09] <pavs> how to stop debsum daemon from hogging my cpu?
[06:10] <dilch> pavs stop it?
[06:10] <peshalto> koregaonpark: sorry to ask so much. love that old neighborhood. are you still in poona?
[06:10] <pavs> kill it
[06:10] <koregaonpark> peshalto, no prob. sure i am. :-)
[06:10] <dilch> pavs well, that will solve the problem
[06:10] <peshalto> cool
[06:11] <pavs> how?
[06:11] <Vilhelms> phixnay, Try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:11] <pavs> kill devsum?
[06:11] <pavs> kill debsum?
[06:11] <dilch> pavs how about 'kill -9 devsum'
[06:11] <dilch> or whatever it's called
[06:11] <Vilhelms> phixnay, I haven't tried installing an nVidia card but thats a guide similar to what I used for my ATI :)
[06:11] <posingaspopular> Mixx: I know there is a way to check what is going on during your boot during your text
[06:11] <posingaspopular> did you try that, or know anything about that
[06:11] <phixnay> Vilhelms: I installed nvidia legacy the way it describes, and I get the nvidia splash screen on boot
[06:11] <pavs> bash: kill: debsum: arguments must be process or job IDs
[06:11] <dilch> phixnay computer says no
[06:11] <peshalto> i remember the clothes-washers used to wash at the river... dhobis, is that the word?
[06:12] <dilch> pavs lol, yeah look up to pid with top
[06:12] <dilch> s/to/the
[06:12] <phixnay> vilhelms: the problem is when I do "$ glxinfo | grep rendering" I get
[06:12] <phixnay> "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[06:12] <koregaonpark> peshalto im-nig you
[06:12] <dilch> pavs if that fails 'ps auxwww|grep debsum'
[06:12] <pavs> ah it stopped by itself:)
[06:12] <Vilhelms> phixnay, I'm not too sure about that =\
[06:12] <dilch> pavs it musta read your mind
[06:13] <phixnay> Vilhelms: ok
[06:13] <pavs> what does it do debsum checks? it not in the top list
[06:13] <dilch> i heard ubuntu does have telepathic qualities
[06:13] <dilch> pavs i don't know. i use freebsd
[06:13] <pavs> ah
[06:13] <pavs> better?
[06:13] <dilch> pavs not the place to comment
[06:13] <pavs> ok sorry
[06:14] <dilch> pavs in other words .. yes!
[06:14] <dilch> ;)
[06:14] <pavs> gotcha no more comments
[06:14] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?
[06:14] <koregaonpark> peshalto, i gotta run... email me if u want....my nick (kp) @gmail.com
[06:15] <dilch> I had a fiesty fawn, but i slapped it into shape, now it's a humbled doe
[06:15] <dilch> much better, not so many dependency problems
[06:16] <dilch> in fact, many of the so-called 'problems' on here could be solved by repeatedly slapping your OS. At a bit level, of course
[06:16] <gerald> can someone tell me which package to download for gtk+ development?
[06:18] <seeds> please i need someone who can tell me how to add windows xp to the grub list
[06:18] <posingaspopular> seeds: whats the problem
[06:18] <posingaspopular> erm by that i mean more details
[06:18] <seeds> i reinstalled ubuntu and i can't see windows xp in the grub menu
[06:18] <zorba64> so the would be Bit Slapping I suppose?
[06:18] <Flannel> seeds: what partition is windows on?
[06:19] <seeds> so i can boot into windows now
[06:19] <seeds> i can't i meant
[06:19] <posingaspopular> can you find your partion table?
[06:19] <seeds> it's all there in a different partition
[06:19] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[06:19] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[06:19] <GigaClon> oops
[06:19] <Flannel> seeds: which partition
[06:20] <seeds> how can i know that?
[06:20] <GigaClon> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:20] <seeds> /dev/hda1
[06:20] <marduk> grub babies
[06:21] <Flannel> seeds: you'll need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, scroll ALL the way down, to after where it says "end automagic kernels", then paste the following ni there
[06:21] <seeds> ok i'm in menu.lst
[06:21] <ReKlipz> hey guys, how do i find out the amount / type of ram installed on a linux box?
[06:21] <dilch> ReKlipz 'dmesg|less'
[06:21] <dilch> ReKlipz look carefully for the memory sections
[06:22] <ReKlipz> 511MB LOWMEM available
[06:22] <ReKlipz> nice, thx
[06:22] <seeds> flannel: what should i paste?
[06:22] <dilch> ReKlipz i'm here to help
[06:22] <ReKlipz> i just bought this box
[06:22] <dilch> ReKlipz you can pay by direct deposit
[06:22] <Flannel> seeds: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5678/
[06:23] <Flannel> seeds: without the numbers, those are a biproduct of the pastebin
[06:23] <dilch> ReKlipz well, you can find out a lot just by looking at dmesg
[06:23] <dilch> ReKlipz then you can get into the /proc directory
[06:23] <ReKlipz> a 21" CRT (IBM P202), a keyboard and mouse, 1.4GHz Intel Centrino, 512MB PC600, 20GB IDE, DVD/CDROM, nVidia QUadro2
[06:23] <ReKlipz> all for 20$
[06:23] <dilch> report back to me
[06:24] <dilch> ReKlipz i hate to tell you ... a monitor isn't part of a 'box'
[06:24] <dilch> you lied
[06:24] <seeds> flannel: should i paste that after : ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[06:24] <ReKlipz> actually, i got 2 of the putes, and 2 p202, and 1 p96 monitor, and a p76
[06:24] <Flannel> seeds: yes, after that.
[06:24] <seeds> ok
[06:24] <ReKlipz> dilch, agreed, which is why im not using the monitor
[06:24] <seeds> i'll try it now. brb. thank you very much
[06:24] <gerald> can someone tell me which package to download for gtk development??
[06:24] <dilch> ReKlipz ah ok, i forgive you then
[06:24] <dilch> gerald computer says no
[06:24] <ReKlipz> dilch, lol, but still ,a good deal, no?
[06:24] <Audimage> how do i mount an NTFS drive, and what text should i add to fstab to perminently mount it
[06:25] <dilch> ReKlipz an excellent deal. So good it makes me jealous/angry and i don't wish to discuss it further
[06:25] <ardchoille> df(1), dpkf(1)  <-- what does the (1) mean?
[06:25] <dilch> Audimage remember it is experimental to mount ntfs read/write ... use caution
[06:25] <ReKlipz> dilch, i think ur just mad that im not gonna deposit ne money to ur account, that of which you never posted ur info for
[06:25] <UntouchableMX__> exit
[06:26] <dilch> sorry "Big Papa Enterprises, 434-984 5445676, National Bank of Australia"
[06:26] <zorba64> gerald, mess about with apt-cache search and you'll find something
[06:26] <frogzoo> gerald: apt-cache search gtk |grep -i devel
[06:26] <ReKlipz> k, gotta go kids, thx dilch
[06:26] <dilch> every correct answer or successful troll is 75 cents
[06:26] <Flannel> ardchoille: man man gives information on that, they're categories.  "man 1 df" for intsance, shows df(1)
[06:27] <dilch> ciao
[06:27] <ReKlipz> ah, ok dilch, that'll get there sometime in the year 2053
[06:27] <ReKlipz> =)
[06:27] <ReKlipz> later guys
[06:27] <dilch> and then once you learn to do 'man whatever' you get the joy of learning how to read them
[06:27] <ardchoille> Flannel: Ah, thanks
[06:27] <ReKlipz> dilch, =)!!!
[06:27] <ReKlipz> gotta go 4 reals no
[06:27] <ReKlipz> now
[06:27] <dilch> read *carefully*, the man pages usually give everything you need, including examples
[06:27] <ReKlipz> adios
[06:28] <dilch> ReKlipz ciao again
[06:28] <dilch> the new ubuntu way is no spoonfeeding, so the man pages are your best friend
[06:28] <dilch> Mark Shuttleworth has said it's the 'tough love' phase
[06:29] <marduk> what about sporkfeeding?
[06:29] <dilch> sporks are borderline
[06:29] <dilch> if the prongs dig into the mouth, that's ok
[06:29] <Potti> I have an issue with installing new software i get this "E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[06:29] <Potti> " what do i do
[06:30] <dilch> Potti hmm, you are trying to defraud the movie industry
[06:30] <Potti> who me = P
[06:30] <crimsun> !restricted |Potti
[06:30] <ubotu> Potti: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Potti> nah
[06:30] <dilch> Potti there is no other reason for libdvdcss2
[06:30] <reverendnathan> What are alternitives to Archive Manager and XArchive? Archive Manager asks for a password (there isn't any), and XArchive extracts... but then doesn't output a file! For .r00 files.
[06:31] <Potti> well reading a tut on how to play dvds it gave me this line to write which i did and go that
[06:31] <dilch> Potti but the real answer is you need the source
[06:31] <dilch> Potti the repository that has the library
[06:32] <Potti> so go there and do what cause i wanna be able to watch dvds
[06:32] <dilch> Potti do you know anything about repositories?
[06:32] <mosh_> what is the exquivialnt the setfont command for gentoo in ubuntu? i am trying to change the virtual console font to 8x8
[06:32] <Potti> not really
[06:32] <zorba64> reverendnathan, .rar file?
[06:32] <dilch> Potti then ask here. But not me. I don't handle repository/sources.list questions anymore
[06:32] <GigaClon> reverandnathan, try renaming the .r00 file to rar
[06:33] <reverendnathan> zorba64: Yes, RARchives from usenet/newsgroups
[06:33] <Potti> z0mg im so cunfused
[06:33] <GigaClon> then point it to next file when needed
[06:33] <Potti> i just wanna be able to watch dvds & play mp3s in order to do that what must i et and how
[06:33] <dilch> Potti say this .. "how do install libdvdcss2??? What repositories do i have to add, and how do i do that?????"
[06:33] <GigaClon> Potti, it can be confusing at first
[06:33] <frogzoo> mosh_: /etc/default/console-setup - look for FONTFACE
[06:33] <gerald> i don't even know how to tell whether it's the right package to download or not
[06:33] <dilch> Potti try that now
[06:34] <mosh_> frogzoo: tym
[06:34] <zorba64> install rar & unrar, then run: unrar e on the first file and it should uncompress and join em
[06:34] <gerald> libglib1.2-dev
[06:34] <Potti> how do install libdvdcss2??? What repositories do i have to add, and how do i do that?????
[06:34] <gerald> gyessing it's this
[06:34] <GigaClon> !restricted > Potti
[06:34] <posingaspopular> someone is going to have to walk him through this
[06:34] <dilch> Potti now read what the nice person has directed your way
[06:34] <GigaClon> Potti read your Private messages
[06:35] <Potti> yes im reading
[06:35] <Potti> tahnk you
[06:35] <marduk> u need to add the correct suppository for that pkg
[06:35] <dilch> it's easier than it may seem
[06:35] <GigaClon> !repos > Potti
[06:35] <dilch> and an essential skill for any ubuntu-er
[06:35] <reverendnathan> zorba64: Trying now
[06:35] <dilch> excellent, i finally got Vista running under wine
[06:36] <ullvarg_> any advice for a good program to burn isofiles?
[06:37] <AdamBerg> i can seem to get my sound card to work, it works on the live cd and i see that it recognizes the card
[06:37] <AdamBerg> can't*
[06:37] <dilch> ullvarg i use mkisofs and cdrecord .. i understand this is not the ubuntu way :(
[06:37] <gerald> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[06:37] <gerald> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[06:37] <gerald> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[06:38] <frogzoo> AdamBerg: 5$ says you have a mute somewhere - sys -> prefs -> vol control - look under file -> device & edit -> prefernces
[06:38] <gerald> anyone know what to do with this?
[06:38] <dilch> now i can finally run tcpdump with Aero
[06:38] <B_166-ER-X> I just installed an edgy on a dell destkop system, but on kernel boot it shows for a very short time 'PCI : cannot allocate region.. ' and i cannot get internet on the pc , the installation is complete , but still, no internet, cans someone please help me figure ou the problem ? (I'm on another pc )
[06:38] <AdamBerg> by volume control do you mean "sound"
[06:38] <frogzoo> gerald: you install libgtk2.0-dev ?
[06:38] <dilch> ullvarg but ask again, i'm sure someone knows of a good front-end for cdrecord
[06:38] <gerald> yea
[06:38] <gerald> from apt-get
[06:39] <jordanau> i am using my ubuntu box to play movies on my tv, i cant get the movies to show up on the television screen although everything else shows up fine i think it is a primary/secondary monitor issue, any advice?
[06:39] <ullvarg_> ok, thanks dilch
[06:39] <gerald> oh wait
[06:39] <gerald> no
[06:39] <frogzoo> AdamBerg: sorry, I mean sound -> volume control
[06:39] <gerald> i must've installed something else
[06:39] <valehru__> Hey guys, How can I update the MPD database?  Currently it only has one directory in the playlist, I added new directories to the music folder but they are not coming into the clients playlist
[06:40] <duckdown> Hi all.  Unusual request here, but it would b ehighly appreciated.  I dont understand awk/sed/grep hardly, but my router logs show lines like "Feb 13 21:39:02  user.warn kernel: DROP IN=vlan1 OUT= MAC=00:18:f8:d2:4a:2c:00:05:00:e2:1b:04:08:00:45:00:00:30 SRC=74.112.68.208 DST=74.111.178.118 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=120 ID=45005 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1625 DPT=39394 SEQ=498699090 ACK=0 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x"  How can I show ONLY the "DRO
[06:40] <ComradeC> is there a way to easily upgrade to a new kernel like 2.6.20?
[06:40] <duckdown> P: SRC= , SPT= , and DPT= "
[06:40] <dilch> ullvarg or do a google for 'ubuntu cdrecord front-end'
[06:40] <dilch> duckdown heh, you could do it many ways. What parts do you want?
[06:41] <dilch> duckdown i can't tell ... you want the IPs and ports?
[06:41] <duckdown> dilch, I guess the "DROP" and SRC= addy, the SPT= port, and the DST= port
[06:41] <frogzoo> duckdown: an interesting, highly pertinent to ubuntu, question...
[06:41] <duckdown> would be an awesome start
[06:41] <duckdown> frogzoo, well im using it :( sorry then
[06:41] <duckdown> i dont know where else to ask
[06:41] <jordanau> duckdown, man grep and look under patterns it should you can refine it from there
[06:41] <dilch> frogzoo it's not ubuntu specific, but at least it's an interesting question for once
[06:41] <duckdown> dilch, thanks! :D
[06:41] <dilch> duckdown naw, well awk it for you.
[06:42] <duckdown> beauty
[06:42] <AdamBerg> doesn't appear to be working
[06:42] <gerald> ok, i got gtk to work,thanks guys
[06:42] <dilch> duckdown i'll report back in PM, so ppl don't get mad
[06:42] <AdamBerg> master up
[06:42] <AdamBerg> pcm up
[06:42] <duckdown> dilch, thanks alot man!! :)
[06:42] <cj_> hello
[06:42] <cj_> hola
[06:43] <AdamBerg> when i click sound playback should i hear a tone?
[06:43] <jellobean> installing ubuntu, and I receive the error..."no common cd rom drive detected" any ideas
[06:44] <duckdown> how are you booting the installcd? :)
[06:44] <jellobean> i put the cd in and it boots up...my bios recognizes my drive as well
[06:44] <ComradeC> is there a way for me to update the kernel to 2.6.20 without doing crazy configuration, like can I just add it to the apt-get?
[06:47] <shiv> why do I have this folder in my home folder: shadymahn
[06:48] <dilch> duckdown you don't seem to answer PMs
[06:48] <dilch> duckdown this distresses me greatly
[06:48] <duckdown> wha?
[06:48] <duckdown> no! :( i am sorry man
[06:48] <GMWeezel> I need to install an nVidia driver but I have to close x-server; how do I do that?
[06:48] <duckdown> i only saw 2
[06:48] <dilch> duckdown lol, ok i pasted it again for you. see it?>
[06:49] <duckdown> no man, i only see 2 PM's
[06:49] <duckdown> a "hey" and "are you there"
[06:49] <duckdown> i
[06:49] <duckdown> i'm asking you " can you see this? " in PM
[06:49] <dilch> duckdown you must not be registered :)
[06:50] <duckdown> stupid thing is telling me its blocking my messages in PM, sorry about that.. I am registered, i guess not auth'ed
[06:50] <corevette> is there a good repository for updating ktorrent? the ubuntu one is out of date
[06:50] <jellobean> Hi everyone, I'm an absolute linux newbie and am trying to install warty on a new system that already has XP installed. I am able to get the image CD to boot up and enter my language and keyboard layout. I then get a screen with a header "Detect and Mount CD-Rom" and the message "No common CD-Rom drive was detected". The prompt then asks for floppies containing the CD-Rom drivers. The message further insinuates that I may have non-st
[06:50] <AzMoo> warty? Why Warty?
[06:51] <maxi_> jemand da der deutsch spricht?
[06:51] <corevette> jellobean...why warty?
[06:51] <nevron> do i need kubuntu to run kde?
[06:51] <jellobean> sorry meant to say ubuntu
[06:51] <mssever> nevron: no
[06:52] <mssever> nevron: just install kubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <mssever> or, you could install only kde
[06:52] <nevron> is there a difference in performance under kde?
[06:52] <mssever> vs. Gnome?
[06:52] <cj_> hi
[06:52] <mssever> I haven't used KDE enough to know
[06:53] <cj_> pls help me
[06:53] <nevron> ok mssever thank you for your help
[06:53] <cj_> i'm having problem with my apache
[06:53] <cj_> apache2
[06:53] <brombomb> What can I use to play a .bin video file?
[06:53] <mssever> cj_: what sort of problem?
[06:54] <brombomb> In windows I use VLC but it doesn seem to have that codec installed now
[06:54] <cj_> mssever: a'm i acedentally delete it in /etc/
[06:54] <posingaspopular> the difference is that KDE rocks
[06:54] <corevette> is there a list of repositories somewhere?
[06:54] <mssever> cj_: you mean the apache2 folder?
[06:54] <jordanau> i how do i make videos play on my tv with s video out?
[06:54] <cj_> yes mssever
[06:54] <Maizen> Hey i am having problems installing ubuntu. I created 2 partition. 1 for swap (1GB) and 1 is unformatted that i used for "/" but I get a "root must be used" error when clicking next
[06:54] <mssever> cj_: The easiest thing is to reinstall apache2
[06:55] <posingaspopular> Maizen: I got this
[06:55] <brombomb> jordanau: If its SVGA then you can use VLC with the SVGA library
[06:55] <cj_> after i remove it using apt-get command
[06:55] <posingaspopular> check out my blog about this error
[06:55] <mssever> cj_: yes
[06:55] <posingaspopular> posingaspopular.wordpress.com
[06:55] <posingaspopular> there is a link to the bug report on what the problem is
[06:55] <duckdown> thanks alot dilch  :D
[06:55] <cj_> i also remove the folder
[06:55] <duckdown> that awk worked nice
[06:55] <posingaspopular> exact bug i mean
[06:55] <jordanau> brombomb, so it is not an issue with my xorg, it is specific to mplayer and totem?
[06:55] <posingaspopular> if that doesnt help PM me back here
[06:55] <duckdown> i gotta learn that for sure
[06:56] <duckdown> much appreciated
[06:56] <dilch> duckdown my pleasure. Not an ubuntu question, but at least an interesting one :)
[06:56] <seravitae> anyone here use 955resolution package?
[06:56] <Potti> i followd those tuts and the ending is screwd for i cant seem to install libdvdcss it tells me "error : dependency is not satifiable"
[06:56] <stinger_au> Question:how do you add something to the default run level in ubuntu ? like in gento its rc-update add foo default
[06:56] <cj_> then after i reinstall the apache2 i have an error
[06:56] <seravitae> 915 i mea
[06:56] <cj_> like this
[06:56] <dilch> duckdown now, go forth and track those that are attacking your machine
[06:56] <duckdown> dilch, i try :D
[06:56] <cj_>  * Starting apache 2.0 web server...                                                                                                        apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:56] <cj_>                                                                                                                                      [fail] 
[06:56] <duckdown> dilch, will do man, will be much easier thanks to you
[06:56] <duckdown> cheers!
[06:56] <cj_> mssever:
[06:56] <dilch> :)
[06:56] <brombomb> jordanau: never used totem or mplayer.... I just happened to see this while looking for something similiar juust 2 seconds ago
[06:57] <mssever> cj_: did you purge apache?
[06:57] <mssever> cj_: sudo aptitude purge apache2
[06:57] <cj_> yes mssever
[06:58] <cj_> i use Sudo command
[06:58] <mssever> cj_: and reinstalling it didn't recreate /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[06:58] <cj_> ya mssever
[06:59] <mssever> cj_: weird... are you sure you used the command I gave you? sudo isn't much of a command by itself
[06:59] <penius> I just installed the apache2 package using apt, but when I try to use the RewriteEngine on directive, apache doesn't recognize it... do I need to install mod_rewrite some other way?
[06:59] <cj_> ok i'll try it again
[07:00] <kgoetz> penius: its probably in a seperate package
[07:00] <penius> I thought so, but apt-cache search mod_rewrite turns up nothing relevant :(
[07:00] <mssever> penius: make sure that the symlink is set up correctly in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[07:00] <Maizen> posingaspopular: so if you create an "ext 3" partition and format it, it should work?
[07:01] <cj_> apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:01] <cj_> mssever:
[07:01] <cj_> still
[07:01] <penius> ah ,that seems to be the problem, thanks
[07:01] <cj_> theres a error
[07:01] <cj_> fail
[07:01] <BBHoss_> permissions?
[07:02] <koregaonpark> hey, i'm still trying to figure out how to disable the splash screen in edgy. i believe it's slowing down my boot time.
[07:02] <corevette> where do i find the: php executable path
[07:02] <kgoetz> cj_: run `ls -lh /etc/apache2/apache2.conf`
[07:02] <mssever> cj_: does the directory /etc/apache2 exist now?
[07:02] <valehru__> Hey peeps, how can i update mpd so that it recognises that new files has been added to the folder?
[07:02] <koregaonpark> can someone tell me what i have to change in my menu.lst?
[07:02] <cj_> do i need to to run that command using sudo
[07:02] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: remove the 'splash'
[07:02] <jordanau> brombomb, was there something i need to do after installing the svga libraries?
[07:02] <posingaspopular> yea iirc
[07:03] <brombomb> Are you using VLC?
[07:03] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, okay... looking..
[07:03] <posingaspopular> im still getting the hang of partioning myself
[07:03] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, this line? "# defoptions=quiet splash"
[07:03] <brombomb> jordnaau: Are you using VLC?
[07:03] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: yes, and also on in the 'do not change this bit' bit
[07:03] <cj_> yes it exist
[07:04] <cj_> mssever:
[07:04] <kgoetz> you change it on that line for the next update, the others so it takes effet now
[07:04] <jordanau> jordanau, yeah still doesnt show on my tv
[07:04] <mssever> cj_ what about /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[07:04] <brombomb> Jordanau: sorry Im out of ideas....
[07:04] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, removed that line. this one too? "root=UUID=cd7eb660-1de1-460e-916d-7f9a2bc98b3a ro quiet splash"
[07:04] <jordanau> okay  i think it is an issue with xorg
[07:05] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: no no, dont remove it, just remove 'splash' from the line
[07:05] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, okay!
[07:05] <justdave> bushblows: hey, I managed to get ahold of the vendor....  (the ethernet card that didn't show up)
[07:05] <cj_> the apache.conf does not exist mssever
[07:05] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, so just the word "splash"? leave "ro quiet"?
[07:05] <GMWeezel> How do I close X-Server?
[07:05] <noodles12> i'm creating a new session for xgl in kde. what is kde's equivalent to gnome-session?
[07:05] <cj_> i mean the apache2.conf does not exist mssever
[07:05] <justdave> bushblows: they said to turn the thing off, unplug the ethernet and the power for 15 seconds, and then plug it all back in and turn it back on.
[07:05] <bfdhud> Hello, I recently installed Java5 plugin and java 5 runtime, I failed to accept the EULA and now java does not work on my system. I have tried removing and reinstalling but it still does not work
[07:05] <justdave> and believe it or not, that worked.
[07:06] <bfdhud> anyone have any suggestions or able to help
[07:06] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: quiet reduces the amount of text output. you can leave it or keep it at your option
[07:06] <justdave> eth0 magically showed up
[07:06] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, just reinstall java, it should work
[07:06] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: close?
[07:06] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, oh thanks for the info, ill leave it in.
[07:06] <mssever> ok, so it needs to be re-created... not sure the best way to do it. I'm puzzled why aptitude didn't fix it, cj_
[07:06] <GMWeezel> kgoetz: Yes; I still need terminal access though; it's to install a video card driver.
[07:07] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: sudo /etc/init.d/x11<tab> stop
[07:07] <bfdhud> koregaonpark, I have, It doesn't give me the option to accept the EULA again, and when I go to java sites (ie dslreports speed test) the applet won't load
[07:07] <Seveas> bfdhud, try marking it for complete removal in synaptic
[07:07] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: press tab key, dont type <tab>
[07:07] <mssever> cj_: try sudo aptitude purge apache2 purge && sudo aptitude install apache2
[07:07] <cj_> do you think i need to remove it then install it again mssever
[07:07] <GMWeezel> kgoetz: Thanks.
[07:07] <bfdhud> seveas, how do I know which packages are part of the java 5 set to remove?
[07:07] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, how did you install java in the first place? via add/remove or the terminal?
[07:07] <Seveas> bfdhud, everything that starts with sun-java
[07:07] <bfdhud> Koregaonpark add/remove
[07:07] <mssever> cj_: yes, and post any errors you get in the install
[07:08] <Maizen> is there any other partition program in ubuntu that i can use besides the one that came with the installer???
[07:08] <posingaspopular> yea
[07:08] <cj_> ok mssever
[07:08] <kgoetz> Maizen: parted?
[07:08] <posingaspopular> ummm sgrub, supergrub i think it's called
[07:08] <Maizen> parted?
[07:08] <GMWeezel> kgoetz: My GUI is till running.
[07:08] <posingaspopular> that didnt work?
[07:08] <penius> ok... I just apt-ge install'd apache2, but it looks like I'll need to build apache 2.2 from source instead... can I safely remove my apache 2.0 packages? if so, how?
[07:08] <posingaspopular> gparted
[07:08] <Maizen> gparted is the one that came with the installer
[07:08] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: and `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop`
[07:08] <posingaspopular> ahhh
[07:09] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, okay, then go back, make sure java is unticked, hit apply, and then tick the options again and it should reinstall. otherwise you'll have to ask someone how to install java 5 via the terminal
[07:09] <penius> apt-get remove, is this safe?
[07:09] <mssever> penius: you should be able to remove apache2 just like any other package
[07:09] <bfdhud> seveas according to synaptic they are not installed
[07:09] <posingaspopular> give me a se
[07:09] <posingaspopular> sec
[07:09] <mssever> penius: yes
[07:09] <penius> okay... I think i am just being paranoid... I did it a billion times back on debian :)
[07:09] <Seveas> bfdhud, then do dpkg -P packagename_here
[07:09] <bfdhud> koregaonpark I have installed/uninstalled two times, I have even deleted the .java folder in my home directory
[07:09] <Seveas> for all sun java packages
[07:09] <posingaspopular> did my suggestion not work?
[07:09] <LordFloppy> does anyone know if i have to find and install gdmsetuptool to deal with certain theme packages? Cause I couldnt find it
[07:10] <bfdhud> Seveas, It's asking for an option
[07:11] <Potti> can i get any help with installing wine on 6.10
[07:11] <Seveas> bfdhud, what did you type?
[07:11] <cj_> mssever: theirs no error upon installation
[07:11] <posingaspopular> super grub
[07:11] <posingaspopular> might work
[07:11] <mssever> cj_: so, does it work now?
[07:11] <bfdhud> sudo dpkg -P sun-java5-bin
[07:11] <valehru__> Hey guys, whats the best mpd client out there?
[07:11] <penius> crap... that looks like it was a pretty messy uninstall, which is what I was worried about... /etc/apache2 is still around, and so is apache2ctl
[07:11] <Seveas> bfdhud, odd, that should work...
[07:11] <bfdhud> sorry seveas i forgot the -P
[07:11] <Seveas> heh :)
[07:11] <penius> I'm just worried it'll have left behind some bits of cruft which'll interfere with my apache 2.2 install
[07:11] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, i'm not an experienced linux user. i would check the ubuntu wiki and see if the directions there are of any help. here's the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:12] <Seveas> penius, remov apach2-common
[07:12] <mssever> penius: if you're installing from source, just delete all that stuff
[07:12] <penius> Seveas: thanks!
[07:12] <cj_>  * Starting apache 2.0 web server...                                                                                                        apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:12] <cj_>                                                                                                                                      [fail] 
[07:12] <Seveas> penius, you'll need to purge it as well to get rid of /etc/apache2
[07:12] <kgoetz> cj_: have you checked if the file exists?
[07:12] <penius> k
[07:13] <cj_> does not exist kgoetz
[07:13] <bfdhud> Seveas it said it was removing config files
[07:13] <mssever> cj_: just noticed what Seveas just said. try removing and reinstalling apache2-common
[07:13] <Seveas> bfdhud, then you can reinstall now and it should ask the question again
[07:14] <bfdhud> Seveas, whats the best way to reinstall? synaptic or add/remove (there seems to be more options in synaptic
[07:14] <Seveas> bfdhud, doesn't matter
[07:14] <cj_> yes mssever
[07:15] <bp847> is there any way to resize an ntfs partition using the ubuntu livecd without losing data, or should I use the gparted livecd for partitioning and go from there?
[07:15] <blicket> question here..I just tried to load ubuntu on my 2nd pc(p4,256mb), it gets stuck halfway through the startup, always. Right after the left-right animation, then it goes dark.  does anyone know if it's my machine?
[07:15] <mssever> cj_: in fact, you might want to open up Synaptic, search for apache2, and purge anything that shows up as installed, then start over
[07:15] <bfdhud> Seveas no dice still not working properly :(
[07:15] <ctford> is anything dire likely to happen to me if i try and use feisty packages with edgy?
[07:16] <mssever> cj_: 'cause apache2.conf isn't easy to manually reconstruct
[07:16] <blicket> there's blinking prompt at the very top left corner..and it's stuck there
[07:16] <mssever> ctford: maybe
[07:16] <init2null> Hi guys. I restarted my computer and, although the session manager comes up, KDE and Gnome refuse to start.
[07:17] <mssever> ctford: better to compile feisty packages from source
[07:17] <ctford> mssever: but not definitely? :)
[07:17] <LordFloppy> @blicket- you may have a corrupt installer cd
[07:17] <mssever> ctford: depends on the package and what dependencies it has
[07:17] <jordanau> how do i set my tv to be my primary monitor?
[07:17] <blicket> @lordfloppy thanks i'm running the media check right now
[07:17] <ctford> mssever: the edgy vlc mozilla plugin doesn't load media at all for me. the vlc guys advised me to try the feisty version.
[07:18] <mssever> ctford: but most of those dependencies are solvable if you compile from source
[07:18] <bfdhud> seveas am I wrong in assuming that the java 5.0 runtime and plugin would make dslreports work in Mozilla?
[07:18] <init2null> I get an error message about the process running setuid when I try to start KDE or Gnome.
[07:18] <init2null> any ideas?
[07:18] <mssever> ctford: dunno about that one. If you don't have to install or upgrade any deps, it sould be safe
[07:19] <ctford> mssever: hmm yeah. i don't think it would screw up anything serious if it did go wrong anyway... (famous last words :p)
[07:19] <mssever> ctford: whatever you do, don't use the feisty version of libc6
[07:19] <paul__> hey anyone here use Pulseaudio
[07:20] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so they are all set to go.
[07:20] <mssever> ctford: I broke my machine that way, trying to use an edgy package on dapper
[07:20] <ctford> mssever: aha :) i'll steer clear of that one then
[07:20] <n2diy> mssever: amen to Dapper"
[07:21] <valehru__> hey guys, would having ipv6 slow down my machine?
[07:21] <n2diy> valehru__: yes
[07:21] <LordFloppy> you might try openDNS thought
[07:21] <valehru__> ahh k...
[07:21] <valehru__> was wondering why it was slowing up..
[07:22] <ctford> mssever: one last question. if packages have the same name in edgy and feisty, how would the conflict be resolved if i added the feisty repos?
[07:22] <valehru__> LordFloppy, pointless for me considering my location.  I'm based in China at the moment...
[07:22] <n2diy> valehru__:  it isn't fully employed yet.
[07:22] <LordFloppy> nevermind
[07:22] <seeds> hello. i need some help please. I can't set the hour in ubuntu it says that i can't do that
[07:23] <cj_> so what should i do mssever
[07:23] <mssever> ctford: it would try to install the latest version. If you just switch your repos and upgrade, you'll mostly wind up with a feisty machine
[07:23] <seeds> it says: "the configuration could not be loaded"
[07:23] <LordFloppy> @seeds- you need to be in admin account
[07:23] <mssever> cj_: have you followed my suggestion about synaptic?
[07:23] <seeds> how do i do that?
[07:24] <ctford> mssever: ok. thanks for the help.
[07:24] <mssever> ctford: np
[07:24] <bfdhud> Seveas, Azureus works, just not Firefox? Is there another package I need
[07:24] <LordFloppy> did you set up an administrator account other than "oem" when you originally set up your machine?
[07:25] <seeds> i think i did
[07:25] <LordFloppy> I think you might better off looking in the ubuntu forums
[07:26] <seeds> i add my name to the sudoers file
[07:26] <seeds> but it didn't work
[07:26] <Nushio> Hey LordFloppy, can you help me out with my prob? I just reinstalled (fresh install) Ubuntu 6.06 and it won't boot
[07:26] <LordFloppy> Im getting outside my limited understanding of ubuntu seeds
[07:26] <LordFloppy> sorry
[07:27] <bp847> seeds: you're trying to change the time, correct?
[07:27] <Nushio> for some reason It doesnt find the hdd or a way to boot from hdd, I think that its because it didnt install lilo or grub
[07:27] <LordFloppy> i had issues when i installed LIlo on another machine
[07:27] <dilch> Nushio yeah, that small problem of no bootloader
[07:27] <LordFloppy> if you can try to set it up to use Grub
[07:27] <seeds> bp847: yes im trying to change it
[07:28] <Nushio> I can't boot into ubuntu, except with ubuntu live
[07:28] <dilch> Nushio so install grub. If that's too hard, google something called GAG
[07:28] <bp847> seeds: you've tried right clicking on the time in the upper right of the screen, going to adjust time/date, and working from there?
[07:28] <Nushio> ooh, Gag looks nice, thanks dilch!
[07:29] <Nushio> Ugh, I just realized that I dont have a floppy disk reader
[07:29] <mssever> cj_: you still there?
[07:29] <LordFloppy> nushio, what do you need a floppy reader for
[07:30] <LordFloppy> ?\
[07:30] <Nushio> for GAG?
[07:30] <cj_> mssever: ye
[07:30] <cj_> mssever: yes
[07:30] <LordFloppy> you dont have a thumb key?
[07:30] <Nushio> yepp, I do
[07:30] <seeds> bp847: yes i did that, but i get a message that i can't because im not allowed to use the system configuration
[07:30] <dilch> Nushio oh, that sucks
[07:30] <mssever> cj_: what's your status? have you purged and re-installed everything related to apache2?
[07:30] <dilch> Nushio well just install grub if you can
[07:31] <bp847> seeds: did it prompt for the root password?
[07:31] <Nushio> Ill try to figure things out
[07:31] <LordFloppy> luck man
[07:31] <LordFloppy> but do try the ubuntu forums
[07:31] <cj_> i'm still working on it... mssever
[07:31] <seeds> no it didn't
[07:31] <LordFloppy> or try google.com/linux
[07:31] <mssever> cj_: ok...just wondering
[07:31] <seeds> bp847: it didn't
[07:31] <Nushio> yeah, I already do check those
[07:31] <cj_> thanks mssever
[07:31] <posingaspopular> seeds: do you have a password set?
[07:32] <seeds> posingaspopular: yes i have a password
[07:32] <dilch> Nushio you can install grub from the install disk
[07:32] <jeff_> anyone know which file provides the specific command that starts postgres on boot up?
[07:32] <posingaspopular> oh okay, just checking
[07:32] <mssever> jeff_ look in /etc/init.d
[07:32] <Nushio> thanks, i'll try!
[07:32] <cj_> mssever: the synaptic are now installing the apache2
[07:33] <smoenux> !java
[07:33] <jeff_> ty mssever i try there
[07:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:33] <mssever> cj_: ok
[07:33] <dynamicreflux> any idea why the mouse scroller (vertical) on my touchpad doesnt work?
[07:33] <cj_> mssever: i will give an update after installation
[07:33] <sparr> how would i get "FAT: Directory bread..." errors in dmesg when im not using any FAT-ish filesystems?
[07:33] <mssever> cj_ k
[07:34] <bp847> seeds: try opening up a terminal and typing "sudo time-admin"
[07:35] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know where the crop tool is in Gimp? my help files aren't installed and it would be faster if I just ask someone here.. thanks
[07:35] <mssever> captainMorgen: shift+C
[07:36] <seeds> bp847: great it worked!
[07:36] <seeds> bp847: what can i do to do things like that wothout a password
[07:36] <seeds> ?
[07:37] <CaptainMorgan> thanks mssever
[07:37] <bp847> seeds: perfect! doing things like that without a password...you won't be able to, since it's making a change to system settings
[07:37] <LordFloppy> linux will always ask for a password
[07:37] <LordFloppy> its safer that way
[07:38] <LordFloppy> makes sure you understand you may mess up your system and to make sure you know what youre about to do
[07:38] <Ferret> huh?
[07:38] <BrianR> Hi
[07:38] <Ferret> You can make sudo not ask for a password
[07:38] <BrianR> can someone help me out with a question?
[07:38] <mssever> shoot
[07:39] <posingaspopular> BrianR: dont ask to ask, just ask ;)
[07:39] <BrianR> I just ordered my ubuntu cd today
[07:39] <BrianR> and I shoutcast to a shoutcast server can you do that in ubuntu?
[07:39] <seeds> bp847: thank you very much
[07:39] <BrianR> if so how?
[07:39] <posingaspopular> let's see
[07:39] <posingaspopular> !shoutcast
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shoutcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <bp847> seeds: you're welcome!
[07:39] <seeds> ferret: how do i set ubuntu not to ask for the password
[07:40] <BrianR> ok I got booted
[07:40] <BrianR> can someone tell me if you can shoutcast with ubuntu?
[07:40] <bp847> and on the topic of messing up my system...is there any way to resize an ntfs partition from the live cd without losing data?
[07:40] <mssever> BrianR: dunno about shoutcast. You might try ubuntuforums.org--or google
[07:41] <BrianR> hmm okay
[07:41] <BrianR> thank you
[07:41] <posingaspopular> gogoel.com/linux
[07:41] <posingaspopular> google.com/linux
[07:42] <CygnusRising> Hey, what is the standard bundled software with Ubuntu? From what I see so far, it's OO.Org, Firefox, RythymBox, and The GIMP.  Am I missing any?
[07:42] <LordFloppy> evolution
[07:43] <mssever> cygnusrising: the list is very long
[07:43] <Ferret> Dah, he left
[07:43] <CygnusRising> Heh.  Thanks.  Is there a URL with a full listing somewhere?
[07:43] <posingaspopular> akregator
[07:43] <mssever> cygnusrising: totem, tomboy...
[07:43] <mssever> cygnusrising: dunno
[07:44] <Ferret> bp847: Yes, use gparted.  If it's not on your ubuntu disk, it's got its own livecd that's about 30M download
[07:44] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so they are all set to go.
[07:44] <crash_> Helloo... how would I set my domain name on my computer for a home network? :-P
[07:45] <CygnusRising> mssever:  Those mean nothing to me.  I'm just kinda looking into Ubuntu after a reccomendation as a good place to start with Linux-based OS's.  I've always kinda liked the support and universality that Windows has offered, but I really should start branching out.
[07:45] <bp847> ferret: perfect, thanks for the info
[07:45] <LordFloppy> n2diy, you may try mythtv package
[07:45] <Ferret> bp847: It's pretty easy to use, and it lets you set up all the actions you want to do before starting.  Of course you need to be careful with such programs and should consider backing stuff up but it's very popular, never hear of problems with it
[07:45] <mssever> cygnusrising: it's quite a complete system out of the box...the best way to see is to try out the live cd
[07:46] <cj_> mssever: same error
[07:46] <cj_> hehehe
[07:46] <LordFloppy> ive never heard of anyone using a satellite box with linux, but it may be possible
[07:46] <LordFloppy> thats something you may have to dig for
[07:46] <mssever> cj_: really? then I'm stumped...If I knew how, I'd send you mine
[07:46] <orient2000> cygnusrising: run adept, install kubuntu
[07:47] <CygnusRising> mssever:  Thanks.  I look into grabbing the ISO when my computer is on for the evening and I'm not using it.  Gotta get that new HDD first so I can repartition my current one without losing any data though.  Unless I kept in mind that I wanted to dual-boot at some point and left a 10 GB raw partiton.
[07:47] <n2diy> LordFloppy: roger that, thanks.
[07:47] <CygnusRising> orient2000:  Adept?  Why Kubuntu over Ubuntu?
[07:48] <bp847> ferret: good to hear that it's easy to use...I'm actually asking for a friend who's never worked with linux before, so I was a bit worried that he was going to manage to do something wrong while partitioning >.<
[07:48] <orient2000> Kubuntu is more like windows menu like. menu is left-bottom
[07:48] <dilch> nothing can go wrong with ubuntu
[07:48] <dilch> ever
[07:48] <cj_> ok thank you verry much msserver
[07:48] <orient2000> kubuntu is KDE and more popular
[07:48] <variant> orient2000: actualy, ubuntu is more popular (gnome)
[07:49] <dilch> cool, i finally got Vista running under wine
[07:49] <Ferret> bp847: You drag little coloured rectangles that represent the partitions around the screen.  It's fun. ;P
[07:49] <LordFloppy> i think its a bit prettier at setup as well
[07:49] <mikejanssen> i prefer gnome more than kde
[07:49] <mikejanssen> kde = blegh
[07:49] <dilch> no one prefers kde or gnome
[07:49] <dilch> xubuntu
[07:49] <dilch> or death
[07:49] <Keitaru> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64   this would work on my AMD Athlon 64 rig right?
[07:49] <mikejanssen> psh
[07:49] <variant> Keitaru: yes
[07:50] <noodles12> i usually run gnome but i'm in kde to try things out. Everything seems.. blurry. Is there something i have to change in the settings?
[07:50] <Keitaru> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386  and this would work an an Intel rig right?
[07:50] <variant> Keitaru: yes
[07:50] <CygnusRising> >.<  Ladies, you're both pretty. I've seen the KDE Gnome war for long enough.  Why can't we settle on something we a like...  How about...   PCB's.  We can all like Printed Circuit Boards....
[07:50] <noodles12> i fixed the blurry font by changing the anti-aliasing to slight.
[07:50] <dilch> and only xubuntu because ubuntu refuses to have a default fluxbox installation
[07:50] <CygnusRising> >.<
[07:50] <mikejanssen> Keitaru,  i am using that on an amd
[07:50] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:50] <Keitaru> using what mike
[07:50] <mikejanssen> the i386
[07:50] <orient2000> cygnusrising: go to konsole and type apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and restart with KDE.
[07:50] <Keitaru> lol how is it stable??
[07:50] <bp847> ferret: nice, he should be able to deal with that easily enough =P
[07:50] <mikejanssen> works fine for me
[07:50] <Ferret> bp847: Don't be surprised if it takes a couple of hours to run (although that depends on what you're doing -- moving partitions (or at least the start of them) takes ages, and gparted is especially slow because it does a full trial run of everything before actually doing it. ;p
[07:51] <ardchoille> dilch: "default"? Pffft.. as long as your apt is working, you have everything ;)
[07:51] <CygnusRising> Vista just kinda lost it in my mind.  I mean, all I see it as right now is a prettied up version of windows that tries to be a bit more practical with system resources.
[07:51] <CygnusRising> Rather, a prettied up version of XP.
[07:51] <LordFloppy> its slow even on new hardware
[07:51] <dilch> ardchoille if only. You need to undertake a number of steps to completely remove k/u/x unbuntu, then install the desired wm
[07:52] <Keitaru> anyone know a Freeware Iso burner?
[07:52] <LordFloppy> that new system permissions thing already has an exploit
[07:52] <cj_> anyone can help me about my apache2
[07:52] <CygnusRising> Yeah.  Didn't THG say something about it not playing well with a lot of hardware, especially nVidia cards and Samsung MP3 players.
[07:52] <BlackMage-Redwiz> The one that comes with ubuntu
[07:52] <dilch> Keitaru google a 'front-end cdrecord'
[07:52] <Keitaru> ty
[07:52] <LordFloppy> vista was not ready for release
[07:52] <dynamicreflux> vista blows
[07:52] <dynamicreflux> i hate it
[07:52] <CygnusRising> Agrees with LordFloppy.
[07:52] <dynamicreflux> and im an avid m$ user
[07:52] <dilch> this is not #vista
[07:52] <mikejanssen> i like vista
[07:52] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:52] <dilch> any talk of it disgusts me
[07:52] <bp847> ferret: I'm assuming that it's just a resize, since he's going from using the entire drive for xp to a dual boot (hopefully, we'll see what he actually manages by the end of tomorrow)
[07:53] <ardchoille> Microsoft should change their name to Playschool.. their target audience is the same..
[07:53] <BlackMage-Redwiz> right click on the iso and use the default it works fairly well for iso burning
[07:53] <CygnusRising> I would say...  If you want your preformance, run Windows 2000 on a system that's way to powerful for it.
[07:53] <BlackMage-Redwiz> not 2000 but 98
[07:53] <dilch> ardchoille yeah, 'cause ubuntu is the 'adult's' choice in *nix ...
[07:53] <LordFloppy> 98 is a pos OS
[07:53] <dilch> enough MS talk
[07:53] <mikejanssen> 98se
[07:53] <mikejanssen> ftw!
[07:53] <CygnusRising> (Of course, that is assuming that you want a Windows system)
[07:54] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dilch im sorry thats right .... I only ever used se...
[07:54] <dilch> everyone know MS peaked with ME
[07:54] <CygnusRising> 98SE and 2k are all pretty close, but I would say that if you had the option, and you wanted similar OS speed, go with a *nix based OS.
[07:54] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dual boot FTW just incase your friends dont use linux....
[07:54] <dilch> quad-boot or death
[07:55] <variant> dilch: stop trolling
[07:55] <bp847> ferret: but I'll mention that just in case...I'm actually worried that he'll end up following a walkthrough that's entirely outdated and manage to kill something in the process >.<
[07:55] <mikejanssen> i am using a tri-boot
[07:55] <dilch> variant that isn't trolling
[07:55] <mikejanssen> xp, vista, ubuntu
[07:55] <mikejanssen> = )
[07:55] <Kelbizzle> anyone know how to make xchaqt open link with firefox.
[07:55] <CygnusRising> BlackMage:  Yup, but 2000 will be more supported out of the group.
[07:55] <CygnusRising> Without taking the step to XP, of course.
[07:55] <dilch> xp/freebsd/debian/win2k3
[07:55] <dilch> or death
[07:55] <LordFloppy> mac os or linux
[07:56] <dilch> death
[07:56] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dilch...lol...which channel are you in...:P
[07:56] <valehru_> hey guys, how can i make sure that ipv6 is off?
[07:56] <Madpilot> dilch, you're starting to look a lot like a troll... cool it.
[07:56] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz some weird death one
[07:56] <dilch> Madpilot i'm just excited
[07:56] <CygnusRising> Yeah, I could see someone booting OSX, *nix, and boot camping XP on a Mac.
[07:56] <bp847> Kelbizzle: should be able to right click the link and select "open link in browser"
[07:56] <dilch> if excitement about linux is a crime, yes, i am guilty
[07:56] <bp847> ferret: anyway, thank you for the help!
[07:57] <Kelbizzle> it opens in a different browser. I found !mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox 'openURL(%s,new-tab)' in a google
[07:57] <variant> dilch: it's all the random comments i'm talking about
[07:57] <CygnusRising> Psh, I would in a heartbeat exchange my knowledge of Windows based systems for *nix based systems.
[07:57] <Ferret> bp847: The install doc should be displayed to you when you get to the desktop on the CD n.n
[07:57] <juraj> hy
[07:57] <Ferret> It shouldn't be out of date
[07:57] <dilch> variant my brain veers off on tangents. I will try to control myself
[07:57] <juraj> i need something like electronic workbench
[07:58] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I dont know... run *nix your self get your friends on it and sell your winblows knowledge for profit
[07:58] <bp847> ferret: I know, but he's searching for walkthroughs on google...I told him that he's overthinking it, but he's still worried -_-
[07:58] <CygnusRising> Question:  Does Opera release for *buntu?
[07:58] <dilch> of course
[07:58] <Madpilot> CygnusRising, yes
[07:58] <CygnusRising> Meaning, is it covered under the *nix releases.
[07:58] <juraj> does enybody knows the name of aplication
[07:58] <ardchoille> CygnusRising: I believe it's in the Seveas repo
[07:59] <Madpilot> CygnusRising, it's in the -commercial repos, so you can download it via Synaptic
[07:59] <CygnusRising> thought so.  Just making sure.  I wouldn't want to migrate without a little bit of home.
[07:59] <Ferret> CygnusRising: http://www.opera.com/download/ let's you choose ubuntu and select which version, so I assume yes
[07:59] <Ferret> Ah, neat, there's a repo for it.
[08:00] <dilch> migrate
[08:00] <dilch> some would call it installing another browser. But those ppl deserve death
[08:00] <CygnusRising> Well, it actually doesn't specifiy Ubutu expressly, but it does have a lot of open source OS support: Linux, FreeBSD, etc.
[08:01] <dilch> next you'll say you are deprecating firefox
[08:01] <Madpilot> dilch, seriously, cool it. last warning.
[08:01] <BlackMage-Redwiz> no offence but after using opera for almost a year I can firmly say that I much prefer firefox...
[08:01] <variant> dilch: man, this channel is busy enough without you filing it wil random comments
[08:01] <dilch> there haven't been any real questions for a long while
[08:01] <CygnusRising> Something about Firefox always bugged me.  Why I use Opera.  Too bad Opera doesn't quite have the support that Firefox has yet.
[08:01] <dilch> i've helped at least 6 ppl since i've been here
[08:01] <dilch> relax
[08:02] <Madpilot> BlackMage-Redwiz, after using Opera for longer than FF has existed, I can firmly say that I much prefer Opera ;)
[08:02] <Nushio> yeah, dilch helped me :P
[08:02] <Nushio> (im almost done)
[08:02] <darweth> Yikes.  I just thought I would try Democracy Player out of boredom, but Mozilla-Browser is a dependency.
[08:02] <darweth> I am not installing the Mozilla suite!
[08:02] <darweth> lol
[08:02] <Nushio> couldn't find grub or lilo inside the disk, so instead I went for a clean install from oem
[08:02] <dilch> darweth i truly hate that when that happens
[08:02] <variant> Madpilot: I tried opera a while back before fx came along.. thought it was very good except for the embedded add. then I realised that free software is better :P
[08:03] <rio> i wrote the command "chmod 640 <filename>", and it returned "Too many levels of symbolic links".  what does that mean/
[08:03] <rio> ?
[08:03] <dilch> opera used to have rendering/formatting problems
[08:03] <Madpilot> variant, the embedded ad is long gone - several versions ago now
[08:03] <sparr> it means that <filename> is a symlink to a symlink to a symlink...
[08:03] <CygnusRising> I mean, I like Mozilla, I give it to anybody who's a PEBKAC-in-waiting because it feels much closer to MSIE than anything else.
[08:03] <dilch> i have heard they fixed those. It's still by heresay the fastest browser
[08:03] <Nushio> isnt opera the only one that currently passes the acid2 test?
[08:03] <variant> Madpilot: yeah, still not free software though :)
[08:03] <darweth> Nushio: no
[08:03] <sparr> too many levels USUALLY indicates that the symlinks form a circle, so they never end
[08:03] <darweth> Safari, Konqueror pass it.
[08:03] <sparr> in theory you could have 100 levels of real symlinks and get that error, but its unlikely
[08:03] <Nushio> ah, i hadn't checked on those
[08:03] <variant> Nushio: also dillo
[08:04] <sparr> rio: ^^ ^^ ^^
[08:04] <rio> sparr so how do i fix that?
[08:04] <dilch> lol, i use dillo on a p75
[08:04] <dilch> it rocks
[08:04] <dilch> or death
[08:04] <sparr> rio: figure out where the file is supposed to be and link directly there.  if its a package, report the bug.
[08:04] <dilch> with 16mb of ram, as well
[08:04] <CygnusRising> I just like seeing my friend run Xubuntu on a machine he pulled from a dumpster.
[08:04] <variant> dilch: please get a grip on your self.. you don't want to cut your self off from the great resource that is #ubuntu
[08:05] <ardchoille> dilch: I realise you are excited, and I am too. But, your "or death" comments are getting annoying.
[08:05] <dilch> ok, i will stop
[08:05] <dilch> or death
[08:05] <CygnusRising> Literally pulled from a dumpster.  It was quite something to see it run so well.
[08:05] <variant> CygnusRising: yeah, dumpster box's can be suprisingly good machines
[08:05] <mikejanssen> cygnus..system prolly didnt handle xp well, so they tossed it
[08:05] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:05] <unop> rio,  it could be a situation where  link A points to link B which points back to link A (directly or indirectly)  in a circular fashion
[08:05] <dilch> CygnusRising i have a few machines here like that .. mostly p2s,but 2 p3s
[08:06] <dilch> i still don't know why they threw them out
[08:06] <variant> rio: type readlink /path/to/file
[08:06] <mikejanssen> prolly mad gf's threw away bf's computers
[08:06] <Ademan> are there any decent cross platform collaborative drawing (whiteboard) applications out there?
[08:06] <CygnusRising> Turned out it got trashed because the power switch soldering had popped.  It was hilarious.  5 minutes and he had fixed it:  The first 2 minutes was waiting for the soldering gun to heat up.
[08:06] <rio> sparr, unop i see... i think i know what i did wrong...
[08:06] <rio> brb
[08:07] <Madpilot> Ademan, Inkscape has some sort of whiteboard feature - Inkboard - try #inkscape for help with it
[08:07] <CygnusRising> Mike:  "You've played WoW more than you've seen me!"
[08:07] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:07] <dodgyville> Hi, my machine upgrade firefox to 2.0.0.1 (I don't recall requesting the upgrade!) and now it can't connect to secure websites. Has anyone heard of this prob?
[08:07] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I have several 400mhz intels from the garbage but... alas I have no KVM switch so it really has no point
[08:07] <unop> rio,  variant suggested you find out where the link points to, it should give you an idea of the problem
[08:07] <Ademan> Madpilot: oh really? awesome i was just thinking if there wasn't one i might do something myself based off inkscape
[08:07] <CygnusRising> Mike: The sad part is that probably happens quite often.
[08:07] <ardchoille> CygnusRising: I take old machines that people throw out, donate or give away and I install Ubuntu and donate them to businesses or schools.
[08:07] <mikejanssen> no dodgyville
[08:07] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:07] <mikejanssen> prolly
[08:07] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz why not just ssh into them from a central machine?
[08:07] <Madpilot> Ademan, yea - I've never used inkboard, but I know it exists...
[08:08] <CygnusRising> ardhoille:  Ubuntu?  Why not the lighter-weight Xu?
[08:08] <mikejanssen> 'WHAT DOES WOW GIVE YOU THAT I CANT!!'
[08:08] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz and you can export the X
[08:08] <Ayabara> how can I dist-upgrade from dapper to feisty?
[08:08] <dynamicreflux> any idea why my touch pad scroller isnt working properly?
[08:08] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz anyway, that's what i do .. all the old machines on the network are X-less though
[08:08] <valehru_> hey guys, what clients look good as a frontend for mpd?
[08:08] <mikejanssen> cant wait for april...for new ubuntu to come out
[08:08] <CygnusRising> Mike:  The lack of complaint?
[08:08] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:08] <variant> Ayabara: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <Ayabara> variant, ok. thanks
[08:08] <ardchoille> CygnusRising: Wel, it depends.. if I happen to have a stick of ram or a newer CPU laying around that will run gnome, I'll do it. But, I have installed Xubuntu on quite a few.
[08:08] <variant> Ayabara: it is not advisable, you may loose all your data but it's up to you
[08:09] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dilch because that would require running about 100ft of cat5 cable...
[08:09] <Ayabara> variant, I'm doing it on a fresh vm :-)
[08:09] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz yeah, i guess that's what i did in association with wireless ...
[08:09] <CygnusRising> sighs.  I need to get that second HDD so I can actually back all my shtuff up and reformat my 80 GB boot disk.
[08:09] <dilch> maybe 75 feet
[08:09] <mikejanssen> yea, i need another hd
[08:10] <mikejanssen> for storage
[08:10] <mikejanssen> 200gig hd...doesnt work too well with a tri-boot
[08:10] <mikejanssen> hard to decide how big to make each partition, and be able to save things
[08:10] <BlackMage-Redwiz> well I have wireless to my lappy and my desktop is non existant right now and my family computers are all upstairs...though my gf just got a sweet Desktop I must say
[08:10] <mikejanssen> i need a laptop
[08:10] <mikejanssen> = \
[08:10] <variant> mikejanssen: create one large ext3 partition for /home and you can use that from under windows as well
[08:10] <mikejanssen> i must get one
[08:11] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz do you have that puppy networked up?
[08:11] <CygnusRising> Then just split it even between XP and *nix, then have the entire second HDD be NTFS.  As long as *buntu can acess NTFS, which I'm assuming it can?
[08:11] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz the desktop, not the gf
[08:11] <sparr> BlackMage-Redwiz: wtf "lappy"?  strongbad much?
[08:11] <dilch> Don't format it as NTFS if you want to share
[08:11] <dilch> you'll have to use FAT for error-free read/write
[08:11] <variant> CygnusRising: it can, with fuse support there is now good quality read/write support
[08:11] <BlackMage-Redwiz> mike, I run a dual boot on a 60 right now... mind you I have to keep all my music in compressed formats...
[08:11] <variant> dilch: thats not strictly true any more
[08:11] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:12] <newest007> hey there, how do i stop gaim from loading and asking for login everytime i boot my pc up?
[08:12] <dilch> variant it still produces garbage on occassion
[08:12] <mikejanssen> im just weird
[08:12] <CygnusRising> Dilch: Ah.  I see.  I was going to say.  I know that FC5 can read/write off NTFS.
[08:12] <BlackMage-Redwiz> lappy is a horrible habit I picked up from a friend
[08:12] <mikejanssen> i have plenty of storage space
[08:12] <newest007> is there a option to choose which programs start at start up?
[08:12] <variant> dilch: never noticed. I suppose it depends it you use ntfs-ng or fuse
[08:12] <mikejanssen> but i always worry 'im runnin out!' when i have like 40gigs left
[08:12] <dilch> variant it's a feature we are constantly testing at work, because we need to use NTFS
[08:12] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:12] <BlackMage-Redwiz> which desktop...
[08:12] <dilch> ah i haven't tried the latest release of fuse
[08:12] <CygnusRising> Mike:  I start to worry when I have 40 MB left. >.<
[08:12] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:13] <Kelbizzle> can xchat connect to two servers at the same time?
[08:13] <variant> mikejanssen: yeah, if you don't have enough space to duplicate your entire storage system then you don't have enough space :)
[08:13] <variant> Kelbizzle: yes
[08:13] <mikejanssen> my xp partition = 85gig...vista = 65...ubuntu = 35 or something
[08:13] <variant> Kelbizzle: afaik, /newserver
[08:13] <newest007> how do i choose which programs run at start up?
[08:13] <Kelbizzle> variant, thank you
[08:13] <variant> newest007: there is a startup manager program thing in the administration section
[08:13] <CygnusRising> Mike:  Ya know, all that internets I teh downloadz.  Only one of the six.  Ya know, the first 5 being myspace and porn, the last one being actually useful things.
[08:13] <ardchoille> newest007: System -> Preferences -> Sessions ?
[08:13] <BlackMage-Redwiz> linux doesnt waste your space as much as windows does... my ext3 partition is smaller than my ntfs... and it has about twice as much free space.
[08:14] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:14] <dilch> newest007 or do the manly thing and go through /etc/init
[08:14] <dilch> or death
[08:14] <dilch> yes! or death!
[08:14] <variant> dilch: please stop that
[08:14] <variant> idiot
[08:14] <CygnusRising> If anything, he's presistant to the last.
[08:14] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I watch my pron in linux fewer problems that way
[08:14] <mikejanssen> i dl music and dvdr's
[08:14] <mikejanssen> w00t
[08:14] <mikejanssen> -pirate
[08:14] <newest007> thing is i use KDE, i thought gnome looked boring, but now everything is in different places for the GUI
[08:14] <mikejanssen> just got casino royale tonight
[08:14] <BlackMage-Redwiz> mike:EWW... vista:p
[08:15] <newest007> so i cant find the session thingy
[08:15] <CygnusRising> Yeah.  I hate that.  pron pron pron pr-  System Error?!  But where's all the pron gone?!
[08:15] <CygnusRising> Sighs.  Enough of that.
[08:15] <mikejanssen> i cant do the pr0n thing...got a fiancee on the same computer
[08:15] <mikejanssen> doesnt go over too well
[08:15] <ardchoille> newest007: For gnome?
[08:16] <newest007> i got the kubuntu desktop package and installed it on my ubuntu
[08:16] <rio> cool, i got it! thanks sparr, unop, variant!!
[08:16] <newest007> now its all flash KDE graphics
[08:16] <BlackMage-Redwiz> Gnome looks good if you find the right themes and set the menus to nonexpanded and hideable
[08:16] <BlackMage-Redwiz> *panels rather
[08:16] <unop> rio,  what was it?
[08:16] <newest007> nah, KDE looks waaay better than gnome
[08:16] <newest007> way way better
[08:16] <CygnusRising> I'm out.  Night/Morning/Whatever.
[08:16] <mikejanssen> i dont like the kubuntu boot screen
[08:16] <mackinac> blech
[08:16] <mikejanssen> i want my ubuntu boot screen back
[08:16] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:16] <mikejanssen> orange > blue
[08:17] <BlackMage-Redwiz> meh... I use my own boot screen... and and gnight cyrus
[08:17] <tehseen> I had beryl working, and it loads up but it doesnt work.
[08:17] <mikejanssen> i have diff sessions
[08:17] <mikejanssen> 1 for kde
[08:17] <mikejanssen> 1 for gnome
[08:17] <mikejanssen> i never use kde
[08:17] <mikejanssen> ugly to me
[08:17] <thekidrio> kde is pretty nice, usabilty wise
[08:18] <thekidrio> i prefer gnome myself
[08:18] <rio> unop setting up my own wiki... in doing so, i moved the wrong file because it looked like there were two with the same name <- used to windows
[08:18] <thekidrio> from my hacked solaris days
[08:18] <thekidrio> heyas rio
[08:18] <rio> <- used to windows
[08:18] <thekidrio> like your name
[08:18] <rio> haha
[08:18] <thekidrio> :)
[08:18] <BlackMage-Redwiz> well I use gnome with mostly KDE apps... sadly.
[08:18] <rio> yeah, nice nick, why you copin'??
[08:18] <rio> hahh
[08:18] <thekidrio> BlackMage-Redwiz: haha
[08:18] <unop> rio,  ahh, i see
[08:18] <newest007> oh no, i now have NO idea where the session thing is....
[08:18] <thekidrio> hehe
[08:18] <newest007> omg
[08:18] <mikejanssen> kde has great games included
[08:18] <mikejanssen> = )
[08:18] <tehseen> ohk so nvm
[08:18] <mikejanssen> i <3 the kballbounce game
[08:18] <mikejanssen> addicting
[08:18] <thekidrio> i have been thekidrio since 1994 :P
[08:19] <thekidrio> haha mikejanssen
[08:19] <variant> mikejanssen: kbounce rocks
[08:19] <mikejanssen> ya it does
[08:19] <mikejanssen> i love that game!
[08:19] <ardchoille> mikejanssen: crack-attack is also addictive ;)
[08:19] <thekidrio> i just set up an iax asterix box!
[08:19] <mikejanssen> ive only gotten to level 111
[08:19] <mikejanssen> 11*
[08:19] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:19] <thekidrio> made a call to hawaii
[08:19] <mikejanssen> its hard after that
[08:19] <newest007> where is the session place config thing for KDE??
[08:19] <thekidrio> umm session place config... do you mean to add a session for kde?
[08:19] <thekidrio> did you install kde?
[08:19] <newest007> no
[08:19] <rio> oh hrmm... ive been rio on irc since last year, but rio as a nickname outside of irc since 96 =P
[08:20] <newest007> i want to stop some programs from starting when i turn my pc on
[08:20] <newest007> like gaim etc
[08:20] <thekidrio> ahhh
[08:20] <thekidrio> sorry newest007
[08:20] <variant> newest007: remove it from the session
[08:20] <thekidrio> i got my nickname from a marlon brando movie
[08:20] <newest007> how do i do that??
[08:20] <thekidrio> its a great film if you like westerns
[08:20] <variant> newest007: menu > preferences > session
[08:20] <variant> iirc
[08:20] <unop> rio,  there's probably been 1024 other rio's who have said just that :p
[08:20] <ardchoille> newest007: Open a terminal and run: gnome-session-properties then go to the Startup Programs tab, I think they are in there
[08:20] <orient2000> you change sesion before you type passwort after boot
[08:20] <mikejanssen> my efnet nick = slap_me
[08:21] <mikejanssen> back from my aol days
[08:21] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:21] <rio> ahhh....
[08:21] <thekidrio> called "One Eyed Jacks"
[08:21] <thekidrio> great great film
[08:21] <thekidrio> efnet, i was kidrio
[08:21] <thekidrio> or lobo
[08:21] <mikejanssen> i had one of those indent screen names with the spaces in front of the letters, sn was '   slap me'
[08:21] <mikejanssen> i was l33t
[08:21] <rio> lobo... sounds familiar
[08:21] <thekidrio> alternet, lobo or thekidrio
[08:21] <thekidrio> lobo is pretty popular
[08:21] <yopad> are there any good books
[08:21] <thekidrio> means wolf and its a comic book character
[08:21] <thekidrio> on what yopad?
[08:22] <rio> i used to frequent EFnet quite often, back in teh day
[08:22] <thekidrio> ubuntu hacks is a great book
[08:22] <rio> ....as JAyRULE
[08:22] <thekidrio> cool stuff
[08:22] <Madpilot> thekidrio, mikejanssen - IRC nick chat to PM or elsewhere, thanks...
[08:22] <newest007> uh oh
[08:22] <newest007> i think something bad has happend to my pc
[08:22] <Madpilot> yopad, the Official Ubuntu Book is good
[08:22] <newest007> gnome-session-properties
[08:22] <newest007> ** (gnome-session-properties:5705): CRITICAL **: gsm_protocol_new: assertion `GSM_IS_GNOME_CLIENT (gnome_client)' failed
[08:22] <Killerkiwi> vpnc help, i can connect and get web traffic but other things (including ping) are blocked
[08:22] <newest007> ** (gnome-session-properties:5705): WARNING **: Could not connect to gnome-session.
[08:22] <BlackMage-Redwiz> whats wrong newest
[08:22] <newest007> ^^^ that
[08:22] <thekidrio> Madpilot: was that a warning?
[08:22] <newest007> im using KDE
[08:22] <newest007> not gnome
[08:23] <thekidrio> i was waiting and trying to answer questions eh
[08:23] <Madpilot> thekidrio, just a request
[08:23] <newest007> i cant find session
[08:23] <newest007> sessions
[08:23] <variant> lol, aacs has been cracked wide open already, bring on the gnu hd/blueray dvd movies!
[08:23] <thekidrio> okie dokie Madpilot, cool name btw
[08:24] <yopad> on ubuntu...i want to be an advance user
[08:24] <yopad> im just using it casually...but i think theres more stuff i need to learn
[08:24] <thekidrio> anyone know the package for roaming network profiles?
[08:24] <thekidrio> network-manager?
[08:25] <variant> yopad: if you want to be an "advanced" user it depends on what level you want to reach.. will take you a while. take alook at command line (bash) tutorials and stuff
[08:25] <yopad> if my internet keeps disconnecting to connect to my neighbors...what can i do?
[08:25] <yopad> variant...thanks for the info on bash tutorials
[08:25] <variant> yopad: without breaking the law, not much
[08:25] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I use NetworkManager
[08:26] <yopad> how about changing the channel or something
[08:26] <yopad> you think that will work
[08:26] <twothree> no more ubuntu ppc :(
[08:26] <variant> yopad: connecting to wifi that you are not authorised to is illegal in most countries that I know of. This isn't the place to ask anyway
[08:26] <Sensae> Hello. in xorg.conf my max resolution is 1024 x 768 but the welcome screen is loading at 1600 x 1200
[08:26] <yopad> they just moved in..and my connection was perfect...now it disconnects and try to connect to theirs...lame man...
[08:26] <yopad> variant
[08:27] <yopad> i have my own connection
[08:27] <Keitaru> anyone know why my dvd drive won't open when I press eject
[08:27] <Spo8> Hi, I had a quick installation question.  I'm running off the LinuxMint live cd right now and I'm trying to install, but I'm stuck when picking the partitions to install on.  I made two (one 18g, the other 1g) for the main and swap partitions, but it keeps saying there's no root even when I assign the big one as "/" and the smaller one as "swap."  Am I just being a huge noob?
[08:27] <Sensae> As a note I have the free ATI drivers installed and Beryl running
[08:27] <yopad> their connection is interfering with mine
[08:27] <variant> Spo8: linuxmint is not ubuntu, please ask in linuxmint forums or irc channels.
[08:27] <yopad> im using wireless..trying to connect to my router..but ubuntu connects to theirs
[08:27] <twothree> yopad, you can switch the wireless channel in your router settings
[08:27] <yopad> then i have to disconnect
[08:27] <twothree> it might lessen interference
[08:27] <variant> Tom_Kun: ah lol
[08:28] <BlackMage-Redwiz> good luck Yopay
[08:28] <BlackMage-Redwiz> yopad*
[08:28] <variant> BlackMage-Redwiz: type yo and press the tab key :)
[08:28] <yopad> whats up blackmage
[08:28] <Spo8> but it's basically ubuntu, just with some basic stuff installed for you, correct?  i assume the installation is exactly the same.
[08:28] <mikejanssen> beddddddd time
[08:28] <posingaspopular> Spo8: i know the problem though
[08:28] <variant> Spo8: no, it's not ubuntu. it's a fork and it's not appropriate to ask for help about it in here
[08:28] <BlackMage-Redwiz> yopad you said you had to disconect so I wished you luck...
[08:29] <yopad> i already did haha
[08:29] <yopad> im on mine right now
[08:29] <posingaspopular> PM me
[08:29] <thekidrio> !wireless | thekidrio
[08:29] <Sensae> My Ubuntu max resolution is higher than xorg.conf, anyone know why this could be?
[08:30] <Keitaru> whats yoru resolution for unbutnu
[08:30] <Keitaru> ubuntu
[08:30] <Sensae> It's set at 1024 by 768 but max is 1600 by 1200
[08:30] <Sensae> My monitor won't support that and the ubuntu welcome screen likes to load at 1600 by 1200
[08:30] <Keitaru> how come my ubuntu only has
[08:30] <Keitaru> 640x480 resolution
[08:31] <ardchoille> !fixres | Keitaru
[08:31] <ubotu> Keitaru: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:31] <Keitaru> sweet
[08:31] <Keitaru> thanks
[08:32] <lovloss> Im very tired and i hate ffmpeg / mencoder. Is ther any quick, gui based way anyone knows of to turn a bunch of mp4 files into mp3 files so i can burn this playlist :P
[08:32] <lovloss> actually, they're ".m4a"
[08:33] <thekidrio> m4a.. i had that codec isnt that umm ipod compat?
[08:33] <yopad> whats the best place for wallpapers
[08:33] <posingaspopular> yes
[08:33] <lovloss> yes. but i dont want it on an ipod
[08:33] <lovloss> i want it on a cd :P
[08:33] <thekidrio> i might search google for m4a mp3 convert or m4a converter
[08:33] <posingaspopular> kdelook
[08:33] <jeff_> anyone know a good tape backup that's reliable with 4mm dat drives?
[08:33] <ardchoille> yopad: /usr/share/backgrounds is the default
[08:33] <posingaspopular> if you use kdde
[08:33] <thekidrio> cd is umm redbook audio i think
[08:33] <lovloss> kdelook?
[08:34] <posingaspopular> kde-look.org
[08:34] <lovloss> never mind. i was hoping maybe there was something i could apt-get or something... ill look tomorrow
[08:34] <posingaspopular> themes, wallpapers, splash agers etc
[08:36] <doojin> ubuntu
[08:36] <doojin> I don't believe the stability of linux gui
[08:36] <thekidrio> hrmm?
[08:36] <thekidrio> what about it don't you believe?
[08:36] <doojin> I used to see linux gui stopping itself several times a week
[08:36] <doojin> I was running some programs
[08:37] <thekidrio> yeah it was not the best for uptime haha
[08:37] <doojin> And linux blew my datas
[08:37] <gusto5> Anyone know about gnome-look's downtime?
[08:37] <doojin> oops
[08:37] <doojin> *data
[08:37] <posingaspopular> gusto5: just noticed that myself
[08:37] <doojin> I forgot data is the plural form
[08:37] <LordMetroid> Is there any off topic channel? I want to dicuss an upcomming purchase of some hardware...
[08:37] <gusto5> aighttt
[08:37] <newest007> hey why does azureus have nat errors when i portforward??? im using exactly same settings as i did in windows for portforwarding, but in ubuntu it says nat error???
[08:37] <posingaspopular> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <doojin> I never saw windows xp stop its gui
[08:37] <Kris_T> i'm having serious issues with Ubuntu freezing on me all the time
[08:38] <doojin> Why does linux stop gui frequently?
[08:38] <gusto5> im looking for those osx icons by kiddo, but gnome-look is the downage : )
[08:38] <doojin> I gave up linux
[08:38] <doojin> I removed it from my harddisk
[08:38] <gusto5> really?
[08:38] <ardchoille> doojin: What are you talking about? I have had a box here running Ubuntu for over a month and nothing's wrong with it.
[08:38] <posingaspopular> help installing a dekstop background?
[08:38] <variant> doojin: do you have a problem you would like help with? or are you just here to troll?
[08:38] <doojin> ardchoille : maybe you are not running gui
[08:38] <Kris_T> usually it's when i play mp3's with Amarok or XMMS, then the whole thing will freeze up and a loud beep will come out of the speakers until i reboot
[08:39] <doojin> linux gui is very unstable
[08:39] <gusto5> it is?!
[08:39] <ardchoille> doojin: Please take that nonsense to another channel.
[08:39] <doojin> I installed ubuntu, and ubuntu's xwindows server stopped very often
[08:39] <Kris_T> but sometimes it just freezes, even when i'm not playing music, for no apparent reason
[08:39] <doojin> maybe 1~2 times a week
[08:39] <doojin> I didn't know the problem
[08:39] <variant> doojin: comments like that are so obviously trolling that they are inefective.. if your going to troll at least do it right.. noob
[08:39] <orient2000> ubuntu freezing? maybe screen saver.
[08:39] <MikesDesk> Hi, Im running 6.06 and trying to install java jre 6, I tried to follow the guide on ubuntuguide but I cant install the fakeroot command. Which means I cant convert my java.bin to .deb. Any ideas?
[08:40] <doojin> I'm not insulting ubuntu, I just want to know the reason
[08:40] <yettenet> Good day! I need info about setting default programs for filetypes (I mean, for example, if I have 3 audio players, I'd like to know where to choose the default one)
[08:40] <unop> MikesDesk,  do you have sudo capabilities?
[08:40] <variant> doojin: please pastebin your xorg.conf and the log file from /var/log
[08:40] <doojin> variant : sorry I removed it a long time ago
[08:40] <MikesDesk> I tried using sudo and adding the multiverse and universe repos but it just cant find fakeroot.
[08:41] <variant> doojin: ah, can't really help you then can I?
[08:41] <ardchoille> yettenet: System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media ?
[08:41] <doojin> variant : do you know the usual reasons?
[08:41] <unop> MikesDesk,  usually you just execute the file.bin -- sudo sh -c "chmod +x ./file.bin; ./file.bin"
[08:41] <yettenet> ardchoille: I'll give it a look
[08:41] <doojin> The usual reasons linux gui stops
[08:41] <variant> doojin: as far as i'm aware there are no usual resons for what you describe, as it's very unusual
[08:41] <variant> doojin: perhaps you unplugged it?
[08:42] <unop> MikesDesk,  why do you want fakeroot, do you want to install java or make a .deb?
[08:42] <doojin> no
[08:42] <doojin> Variant : It just stopped
[08:42] <MikesDesk> so I give the file execute rights
[08:42] <MikesDesk> Then just run it?
[08:42] <unop> MikesDesk,  yep
[08:42] <variant> doojin: the proprietry nvidia driver has had some issues with locking up randomly but thats all i can think of
[08:42] <ardchoille> variant: Don't feed the trolls ;)
[08:42] <MikesDesk> okey thanks a million will try it now
[08:42] <unop> MikesDesk,  but this needs to be run as sudo as it makes changes to the system
[08:42] <doojin> variant : what was that?
[08:42] <MikesDesk> sure
[08:43] <variant> doojin: if you don't know what it is it's not something you should worry about
[08:43] <orient2000> some screen saver are freezin compoter so I have non for now
[08:43] <gveri1> Is there a GUI to set monitor/resolution configuration or do I have to vi Xorg.conf?
[08:43] <doojin> variant : do you think linux gui has more problems than windows gui does?
[08:43] <ardchoille> gveri1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is good
[08:44] <gveri1> ardchoille: Thanks, I will try that!
[08:44] <doojin> it was also difficult to set screen resolution in linux.
[08:44] <ardchoille> doojin: Please, this is an Ubuntu support channel. Thake your nonsense or OS comparisons to another channel.
[08:44] <doojin> ardchoille : maybe you are the only one who doesn't get it. my buddy, variant does
[08:45] <orient2000> My kubuntu 6.06 was always stable, no problems.
[08:45] <variant> lol
[08:45] <doojin> variant : do you use linux?
[08:46] <variant> ardchoille: he is on /ignore now anyway :)
[08:46] <gusto5> arguably we're here because we use linux
[08:46] <gusto5> >_>
[08:46] <doojin> variant : really?
[08:46] <ardchoille> variant: I just added him to mine too
[08:46] <doojin> These guys just don't wanna listen to problems
[08:46] <gusto5> so no one has osx iconset on hand?
[08:46] <doojin> You all want to see only good things of linux
[08:47] <gusto5> Just like we try to see good things of everything else?
[08:47] <thekidrio> who is on whose ignorelist?
[08:47] <variant> !icons
[08:47] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[08:47] <dxdt> so
[08:47] <orient2000> I don't
[08:47] <variant> hmm, thats not very helpfull
[08:47] <gusto5> lol
[08:47] <gusto5> not at all : P
[08:47] <doojin> And I don't definitely lie
[08:47] <thekidrio> whats the ? variant?
[08:47] <yettenet> ardchoille: It wasn't what I wanted
[08:47] <doojin> I am just here to solve problems
[08:47] <variant> thekidrio: what?
[08:47] <thekidrio> you said thats not helpful
[08:48] <thekidrio> thought might have a question
[08:48] <thekidrio> about fonts
[08:48] <crimsun> doojin: there's a bug reporting tool. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[08:48] <ardchoille> yettenet: What are you trying to do.. I'll try and help.
[08:48] <dxdt> yeah is beryl completely borked now?  I don't use it frequently, but I noticed that it broke with one of the updates and hasn't fixed with the most recent update.  I wish ATI was more compatible with AiGLX then I would just use Compiz + AiGLx
[08:48] <variant> thekidrio: no
[08:48] <thekidrio> ahh my mistake
[08:48] <doojin> I wonder why it goes not to problem solving but to arguing
[08:48] <Madpilot> dxdt, try #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[08:48] <variant> dxdt: i use beryl at the momment, latest version and it works perfectly with radeon 7000igp and the free drivers
[08:48] <ardchoille> yettenet: Are you trying to set which app a certain file type opens in?
[08:49] <yettenet> Exactly
[08:49] <yettenet> :)
[08:49] <dxdt> Madpilot, well, I wasn't really looking for a solution as much as a quick confirmation, but OK.
[08:49] <variant> Madpilot: ubuntu-xgl has been replaced by some other chan.. ubuntu-effects iirc
[08:49] <ardchoille> yettenet: Right-click the file, choose Properties. Go to the Open With tab and set it up.
[08:49] <dxdt> yeah I know, I've been in those rooms and such in the past.
[08:49] <yettenet> Oh
[08:49] <yettenet> I see
[08:49] <yettenet> Thank you very much
[08:49] <ardchoille> yw
[08:49] <Madpilot> variant, good to know - I don't use XGL/beryl etc myself..
[08:50] <gusto5> I like beryl!
[08:50] <variant> Madpilot: I set it up for my girl friend :) she loves it
[08:50] <orient2000> !beryl
[08:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:50] <gusto5> lol what the heckkk
[08:50] <gusto5> why does my backspace key
[08:50] <doojin> Damn it, I'm trying to solve problems my way seriously, those guys think I'm just a complainer.
[08:50] <gusto5> function like a page-up key?
[08:51] <gusto5> oooo, question
[08:51] <unop> gusto5,  is it a non-standard keyboard?
[08:51] <gusto5> is there a synaptics touchpad manager in ubuntu?
[08:51] <gusto5> nah, its a standard US english
[08:51] <frogzoo> gusto5: yep
[08:51] <dynamicreflux> how do u get the scroller to work on the touchpad
[08:51] <frogzoo> gusto5: syndaemon
[08:51] <dynamicreflux> mine doesnt work
[08:52] <doojin> I hate this situation
[08:52] <gusto5> oh yeah, the page-up behaviour is only in firefox though
[08:52] <gusto5> on OOo it'll actually delete.
[08:53] <orient2000> is beryl working in kubuntu 6.06?
[08:53] <gusto5> orient2000, I thin it works, but it isnt supported
[08:53] <dynamicreflux> when is the next beryl release expected?
[08:54] <gusto5> check out the beryl-project page
[08:55] <gusto5> frogzoo, is that not a package in the regular repos?
[08:55] <frogzoo> gusto5: what are you trying to do?
[08:55] <ptl> I reinstalled almost everything and the font problem with squares instead of characters continue :(
[08:55] <gusto5> synaptics touchpad in ubuntu
[08:56] <ptl> PLEASE help me... What could I do to gnome apps restart working?
[08:56] <orient2000> Beryl screen shots http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=3323
[08:58] <frogzoo> gusto5: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:58] <MurderousHobo> How would I install a VNC server over command line
[08:58] <gusto5> ahhhh aight
[08:58] <ptl> no fonts on xfontsel appear as squares
[08:58] <ptl> ALL fonts on gnome font selector appears as squares
[08:58] <ctford> is there a way to bring up the system monitor if ubuntu freezes?
[08:58] <MurderousHobo> !vnc
[08:58] <ptl> no fonts on KDE font selector appears as squares
[08:58] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:58] <ptl> how can I correct this?
[08:58] <cryosphere> Im not able to reboot
[09:00] <Enselic``> Is it 'I'm from the country of Sweden' or 'I'm from the country Sweden'?
[09:00] <orient2000> cryosphere: are you in a text mode?
[09:00] <crimsun> Enselic``: depending on the context, both are acceptable.
[09:01] <Enselic``> crimsun: If the context is "where are you from"?
[09:02] <ctford> enselic``: i would just say "i'm from sweden."
[09:02] <stylus> Hi there. What's the easiest method for installing Xchat on ubuntu?
[09:02] <crimsun> stylus: using Application>Add/Remove ..
[09:02] <stylus> Isn't that the gnome version though?
[09:03] <variant> stylus: apt-get isntall xchat
[09:03] <crimsun> no, you didn't specify whether you wanted Xchat or Xchat-gnome
[09:03] <crimsun> both are available, of course, from Applications>Add/Remove
[09:03] <Enselic``> ctford: I'd like to say "I'm from the wonderful Sweden"    doesnt it sound better with 'country' then?
[09:03] <stylus> Ok
[09:04] <stylus> Thanks.
[09:04] <jml> What's a good calendar app to use within gnome?
[09:04] <fek> moin
[09:05] <frogzoo> jml: evolution works
[09:05] <spike723> what program can I use to get serial console?  does ubuntu have tip or cu?
[09:05] <ctford> enselic``:  you wouldn't say "the wonderful sweden". you'd say "wonderful sweden." but i agree, "i'm from the wonderful country of sweden" is probably what you're after.
[09:05] <MikesDesk> unop, I have run the java1.6.0.bin and its has returned a directory and the readme inside the file from sun says nothing about installation.
[09:05] <frogzoo> jml: click on the clock in the toolbar
[09:06] <Sensae> Can someone help me setting max resolution in X / relink me to the X troubleshooting guide?
[09:06] <Enselic``> ctford: ty
[09:06] <unop> MikesDesk,  usually it asks you for confirmation on accepting license agreements and then goes on to installing it?? how did you start of the install?
[09:06] <cryosphere> orient: no I not
[09:07] <MikesDesk> I just ran the bin file once adding file permissions.
[09:07] <MikesDesk> It created a directory called java1.6.0
[09:07] <unop> MikesDesk,  through the GUI ??
[09:07] <MikesDesk> Yes
[09:07] <ptl> I DID IT!
[09:07] <ptl> I have just upgraded pango
[09:07] <ptl> DANG
[09:07] <unop> MikesDesk,  man, i gave you a command for a purpose
[09:07] <frogzoo> !fixres | Sensae
[09:07] <ubotu> Sensae: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:07] <MikesDesk> let me try command again
[09:07] <unop> MikesDesk,  here - sudo sh -c "chmod +x ./file.bin; ./file.bin"
[09:08] <cryosphere> yeah, so I can get ubuntu to reboot
[09:08] <cryosphere> or rather xubuntu
[09:08] <cryosphere> it just takes to a black screen with a rat in the middle and sits there
[09:08] <cryosphere> *takes me
[09:08] <cryosphere> *cant
[09:09] <Sensae> That doesn't cover the radeon drivers :/
[09:10] <rylan> so, i have no sound, messed with all the default settings and still no sound, i think no drivers for my sound card, its a weird chinese brand.
[09:11] <ptl> !fixres
[09:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:11] <ptl> !test | ptl
[09:11] <ptl> !fixres | ptl
[09:11] <variant> rylan: what card is it?
[09:12] <variant> rylan: sudo -i then run update-pciids && lspci
[09:12] <rylan> plain english please
[09:12] <frogzoo> ptl: dude, you need to register with nickserv
[09:12] <spike723> ah ubuntu has "cu"
[09:12] <frogzoo> !fixres | ptl
[09:12] <ubotu> ptl: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <valehru> Anyone know where I can get some nice gmpc skins?
[09:13] <variant> rylan: presumably you understood "what card is it?"
[09:13] <ptl> frogzoo: ok!
[09:13] <ptl> 06:53 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You have already identified
[09:13] <cryosphere> !reboot | ptl
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <Sianis_> hi all
[09:14] <cryosphere> Im just trying to reboot, what could be preventing this?
[09:14] <rylan>  things are happening!
[09:14] <dxdt> You can't reboot you are saying?
[09:15] <Sianis_> i'm compiled mplayer , but gmplayed said : Cannot load bitmap font:
[09:15] <rylan> Variant: ok, now what.
[09:15] <Sianis_> how can I fix tihs?
[09:15] <cryosphere> dxdt: yes
[09:16] <variant> rylan: now answer the question
[09:17] <cryosphere> Im using xubuntu and when I tell it to reboot, it looks like it goes through almost all the step but in the end it cant move past the last screen (with the blue rat or whatever)
[09:17] <rylan> computer says, intel corp 82801G (ICH7 family ) high definition audio controler
[09:18] <dxdt> cryosphere, hmmm weird.  I would just press ctrl+alt+f1 if I were you.  Get to that console and then login and use the command sudo init 0
[09:18] <cryosphere> ok Il try that
[09:19] <rylan> any ideas variant?
[09:19] <cryosphere> I should probably also mention that when I boot into ubuntu I cant connect to the internet or use my usb devices
[09:20] <azalin> how do I use wine? I would like to run a windows program on ubuntu
[09:20] <cryosphere> and since its unpredictable as to when it does, I have no way to tracking down the problem
[09:20] <svu_> damn. dropping ppc support. this way i'll end up with gentoo :///
[09:20] <zwnj> dapper live cd doesn't detect the raid device of our intel xeon server, case: SR 2500, board: 5000 PAL.  should i load any module manually?
[09:20] <zwnj> [not only the live, also text-mode installer] 
[09:21] <variant> svu_: who is dropping ppc support?
[09:22] <cursive> is it possible to install ubuntu on an external hd (usb2/esata)?
[09:22] <rylan> so, can someone help me figure out why my sound card isnt working. and possibly explain things a little to me?
[09:23] <variant> rylan: if you had answered my question in the first place instead of making remarks i would have hleped you by now
[09:23] <BlackMage-Redwiz> well ... what happend to the discusion...
[09:24] <svu_> variant, ubuntu
[09:24] <BlackMage-Redwiz> newest did you figure out your sessions
[09:24] <newest007> hey how on earth do i move a file into /etc/init.d ??? says im not allowed to?
[09:24] <newest007> whats the command in terminal to do this?>
[09:24] <newest007> yup, got the sessions sorted mate
[09:24] <BlackMage-Redwiz> makesure you use sudo
[09:24] <newest007> lol
[09:25] <newest007> see, im trying to portforward azureus
[09:25] <newest007> but i gotta move this iptable-azureus file into etc/init.d
[09:25] <rylan> i did. variant, maybe you didnt see it. it is coming up as an intel brand, 82801G (ICH7 FAMILY) high definition audio controler
[09:25] <Jowi> cursive, if it is detected at install time, why not. the only thing you will have to manage is the boot process - you will need to configure grub/bootloader on the primary disk.
[09:25] <variant> svu_: where did you hear that?
[09:25] <newest007> but i dont know how to do it command line
[09:26] <newest007> when i try to do it the GUI way, it wont let me
[09:26] <dxdt> newest007, mmmmmm
[09:26] <Jowi> newest007, so you will have to learn to do it from the command line.
[09:26] <dxdt> newest007, port forward?
[09:26] <rylan> Buuuut i know its an onboard sound card on a ASUS motherboard/
[09:26] <Jowi> !commands | newest007
[09:26] <ubotu> newest007: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:26] <dxdt> newest007, why?
[09:26] <HereBeDragon> >	Hi, How do I find out which package installed a file on my Ubuntu?
[09:26] <azalin> how do I use wine? I would like to run a windows program on ubuntu
[09:26] <newest007> whats the comand to move /home/joe/ip-tables   to :  /etc/init.d
[09:26] <newest007> so i can portforward azuerus
[09:27] <Lord_Shadow> sudo nautilus maybe?
[09:27] <newest007> take me to your leader
[09:27] <newest007> godamit
[09:27] <newest007> lol
[09:27] <Lord_Shadow> hehe ramy
[09:27] <Tomcat_> HereBeDragon: dpkg -S <file>
[09:27] <Jowi> HereBeDragon, dpkg -S filename
[09:28] <HereBeDragon> thanks folks :D
[09:28] <dxdt> newest007, you keep saying that, but I don't think it means what you think it means.  To put it another way, I installed azureus and only port forwarded my router.  Since Ubuntu, by default, had everything else open for me as I could see with sudo iptables -L
[09:28] <newest007> dont work for me
[09:28] <newest007> im following these intructions: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem look at the bit it says for ubuntu
[09:28] <cursive> Jowi: cheers
[09:28] <dxdt> newest007, I don't think adding iptable rules is going to change that though.  I think the problem lies elsewhere.  I personally have noticed that sometimes azureus will just choke and tell me I'm firewalled when it isn't and then I'll restart and it will be fine
[09:29] <rylan> .... im glad other people are getting help.
[09:29] <newest007> look at the link
[09:29] <dxdt> newest007, restart azureus that is.  I'm looking gimme a sec
[09:29] <newest007> cause, i can do it in windows np at all
[09:29] <MikesDesk> thanks unop, my eclipse trader - using java works
[09:29] <newest007> but i get nat errors in ubuntu
[09:29] <newest007> i know how to portforward my router np's, but its still nat error in ubuntu
[09:31] <BlackMage-Redwiz> newest if you don't know the command line maybe ' sudo nautilus' would work cuz it gives you a root browser
[09:31] <Jowi> newest007, "sudo nano /etc/init.d/iptables_azureus" will open a texteditor (called nano) to edit/create the file in question. C-x and y to exit and save. the other commands need to have "sudo" in front of them since you are modifying system files.
[09:31] <Jowi> BlackMage-Redwiz, sudo nautilus is a bad idea.
[09:31] <dxdt> newest007, do me a favor and type sudo iptables all and look at the default policy for each of the three things.  I'm just curious because I actually feel that the guide you are looking at is wrong....
[09:32] <Jowi> BlackMage-Redwiz, it can screw up the settings.
[09:32] <BlackMage-Redwiz> Jowi,  thanks for letting me know...
[09:32] <newest007> kk do it now
[09:33] <dxdt> newest007, I meant sudo iptables -L  sorry about that
[09:33] <cursive> is it possible to boot ubuntu from a external disk on multiple different pc's? is anything similar to windows hardware profiles so you can load different drivers at startup depending on the pc the external drive is connected to?
[09:33] <Jowi> newest007, learn the basic commands that ubotu gave you. you will need to learn one way or another. one great link to get to know your system is here: http://www.linux.sgi.com/LDP/LDP/linuxcookbook/html/cookbook.html#SEC_Top
[09:33] <newest007> iptables v1.3.5: no command specified
[09:33] <newest007> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[09:33] <dxdt> newest007, yeah I messed up I meant sudo iptables -L
[09:33] <dxdt> not all
[09:34] <voodooattack> hi all :)
[09:34] <Jowi> hello voodooattack
[09:34] <newest007> k i got a whole bunch of stuff come up
[09:34] <voodooattack> hey Jowi :)
[09:34] <newest007> too much to paste in here, or ill get booted
[09:34] <dxdt> !pastebin
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:35] <newest007> joe@joe:~$ sudo iptables -L
[09:35] <newest007> Chain INPUT (policy DROP)
[09:35] <dxdt> newest007, use that site
[09:35] <newest007> target     prot opt source               destination
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpt:60003
[09:35] <Jowi> newest: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:60003
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:60003
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:60003
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  192.168.1.254        anywhere            tcp flags:!FIN,SYN,RST,ACK/SYN
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     udp  --  192.168.1.254        anywhere
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     icmp --  anywhere             anywhere            limit: avg 10/sec burst 5
[09:35] <frogzoo_> bad newest007 !!
[09:35] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             255.255.255.255
[09:35] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             255.255.255.255
[09:36] <frogzoo_> !ops
[09:36] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/8  anywhere
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/8
[09:36] <RichiH> newest007: plesae type /flushq
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  255.255.255.255      anywhere
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             0.0.0.0
[09:36] <voodooattack> aww man. i downloaded the ubuntu cd a while back.. and kept delaying the installation (my main development environment is windows) now my dvd burner is broken and i can no longer make use of it -_-
[09:36] <Jowi> voodooattack, luckily dvd/cd burners are quite cheap nowadays :)
[09:37] <voodooattack> yeah, now i need to buy another one (and it will take more time) :P
[09:37] <dxdt> so that's weird, looking at his policies it is clear that they are in fact defaulted to drop, but why?  Mine weren't.  When did that default in ubuntu or in other words, how come mine aren't?
[09:37] <dxdt> weird
[09:37] <jelen> hi folks
[09:37] <voodooattack> hi jelen :)
[09:37] <frogzoo_> dxdt: any decent firewall defaults to drop
[09:38] <newest007> did any of that help?
[09:38] <Jowi> dxdt, the default is to allow everything. he's obviously set the rules up himself
[09:38] <nalioth> !paste | newest007
[09:38] <ubotu> newest007: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <newest007> cause there was actuaaly more, soz about the flood
[09:38] <dxdt> Jowi, that's what I was thinkng
[09:38] <nalioth> newest007: please use a pastebin
[09:38] <newest007> will do, soz
[09:39] <newest007> but the azureus wiki rekons for ubuntu you gotta do some other stuff apart from portforward the router
[09:39] <dxdt> newest007, so yeah, ok, the weird thing is that my iptables on Ubuntu were setup by default to accept everything, yours aren't.  That's why you are having problems and that's why I was confused.
[09:39] <newest007> under the nat error part
[09:39] <dxdt> because by default, you don't have to follow their wiki and fix anything... did you install another firewall or mess with the rules some other time?
[09:39] <jelen> i have one question :]  ... i'm trying to start skype on the ubuntu edgy (2.6.17-10-generic x86_64) and dunno why - it just say that file doesn't exists (ls -la skype> -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 15232104 2006-09-29 14:08 skype) but when i try to execute - it say> -su: ./skype: No such file or directory ... anyone know whats this all about? :|
[09:39] <newest007> i did install a firewall
[09:39] <frogzoo_> newest007: like what? you nat, forward the bt ports, you're good to go
[09:39] <dxdt> newest007, ok
[09:39] <newest007> i did forward the router
[09:40] <newest007> i have before
[09:40] <newest007> and have np's
[09:40] <newest007> but ubuntu dont connect with it
[09:40] <newest007> i installed firestarter one time
[09:40] <frogzoo_> newest007: you did open the forwarded ports in firestarter?
[09:40] <dxdt> newest007, that makes sense then.  Haha Ok so basically whatever firewall you installed at that time changed the rules of your machine and that's why I didn't have to forward the ports but you do.
[09:40] <newest007> i dont use it now
[09:40] <newest007> and gaurdog
[09:40] <newest007> which i dont use now either
[09:41] <newest007> i dont use the firewalls anymore
[09:41] <frogzoo_> newest007: that looks awfully like a firestarter rule set
[09:41] <newest007> but i guess my settings are now chaned anyway?
[09:41] <jelen> use shorewall :) clear configs, nice loging if anything is wrong..
[09:41] <Jowi> newest007, so start firestarter again and remove the rules.
[09:41] <newest007> kk
[09:42] <frogzoo_> newest007: grep iptables-restore /etc/rc2.d/S*
[09:42] <dxdt> Yeah I think that wiki is wrong too on their site... listen to this "Computers running Ubuntu, by default, come with all the ports locked down and you need to open the ports in ubuntu by using the iptables command. Other flavours of linux behave similarly"
[09:42] <dxdt> that seems really wrong to me.
[09:43] <frogzoo_> dxdt: well it's not true - default behaviour is empty iptables rule set
[09:43] <newest007> k, i did grep iptables-restore /etc/rc2.d/S*
[09:43] <dxdt> frogzoo_, that's what I'm saying
[09:43] <newest007> and theres nothing to change in firestarter
[09:43] <dxdt> frogzoo_, I think their wiki is wrong
[09:43] <frogzoo_> dxdt: I think you're right
[09:43] <unop> jelen,  where is this skype file located?
[09:43] <dxdt> mhmmmm interesting'
[09:44] <newest007> oh man, still nat error
[09:45] <newest007> hmm sudo front kick to the sternum?
[09:45] <frogzoo_> newest007: of course, you need to find where the iptables rules are getting inserted
[09:45] <newest007> hmmm
[09:45] <seravitae> hey, i have universe, multiverse, main and resticted in my sources list. a friend is having mega problems with repositories, and he's seeing Sun Java 6 in his list. my list is working fine but i only see sun java 5. any ideas?
[09:45] <newest007> im way over my head here, lol
[09:46] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there an ubuntu channel for the PowerPC port?
[09:46] <jelen> unop: at my mounted home directory.. anyway - if i move it to /tmp it doesn't work anyway.. all permitions are ok (chmod a+rx), but it just doesn't work...
[09:46] <Davo_Dinkum> !powerpc
[09:47] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:47] <HereBeDragon> Hi, If anyone is running Apache2 on Ubuntu 6.06, could you please tell me what's the name of the Apache2 process?
[09:47] <jelen> root@ubuntu:/mnt/home/ienik/skype# ldd ./skype
[09:47] <jelen> /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
[09:47] <jelen> ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127)
[09:47] <Davo_Dinkum> !powerpc-channel
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powerpc-channel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <unop> jelen,  it looks like you are trying to use su on the file? is that so?
[09:48] <frogzoo_> newest007: dpkg -l firestarter
[09:48] <jelen> unop, i didn't use su or sudo on this file.. just execute it by non-root user using "./skype" and it does nothing
[09:49] <dxdt> newest007, if you aren't using those firewalls anyway, I would just do sudo apt-get remove firestarter.  Then restart then do sudo iptables -L and see if it is nice and clean again
[09:49] <newest007> uh oh
[09:49] <newest007> it didnt like that
[09:49] <newest007> uh, sweet, uninstalling now
[09:49] <jelen> dunno why, but on edgy it doesn't work... on my old Dapper - it works... i moved from Dapper to try edgy and now i have only troubles :/
[09:50] <unop> jelen,  hrmm, for some reason it's looking for ld-linux.so.2 in /lib when it should look in /usr/lib -- is this skype from the skype repositories? was it compiled for debian/ubuntu?
[09:50] <unop> jelen,  i'd suggest reinstalling skype then
[09:50] <newest007> sweet, just done  sudo iptables -L
[09:51] <newest007> ill try the nat test again
[09:51] <rus_net> Hi all, I'm looking for some help with an X / nvidia driver problem. I'm new to Linux / Ubuntu. I was trying to install Beryl and followed the instructions at ubuntuguide.org to install the Nvidia Beta drivers and when I restarted X wouldn't start. A friend helped me to install the drivers from nvidia.com and X started, but when I shut down and restarted X won't start again. My friend would be able to help but he's not available now. I
[09:51] <dxdt> newest007, paste bin what the new sudo iptables _L did to make sure it is nice and clean.
[09:52] <frogzoo_> !beryl | rus_net: | these are better instructions for setting up beryl
[09:52] <ubotu> rus_net: | these are better instructions for setting up beryl: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:52] <unop> jelen,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[09:52] <jelen> unop, it's a static version (non-debian) but as I said - it works on Dapper (2.6.15 I guess) ..
[09:52] <stlxv> hi, all
[09:52] <dxdt> rus_net, I want to say that nvidia+X+Beryl is broken right now due to an update(it is test software after all)  and yeah like the bot said #ubuntu-effects will be more help
[09:52] <newest007> sorry whats the iptable command again?
[09:52] <jelen> unop, hmh.. ok, but i think, that it will not help :/...
[09:52] <dxdt> sudo iptables -L
[09:52] <newest007> for the list i mean
[09:52] <frogzoo_> newest007: sudo iptables -L
[09:52] <rus_net> Hi dxdt, I'm not so worried about Beryl, I just want to get back into X...
[09:53] <unop> jelen,  if skype will work on edgy here -- why wont it there :)
[09:53] <jelen> unop, ok.. downloading.. i will give you response in few minutes :)
[09:53] <stlxv> try downloading skype from skype's official site
[09:54] <dxdt> rus_net, is it possible to just undo the changes you made to start beryl and such each time by default?
[09:54] <stlxv> the skype from the source can't run well on edgy
[09:54] <dxdt> rus_net, and yeah, ubuntu-effects will probably be more help than I can possibly be in this area.
[09:54] <newest007> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5686/
[09:54] <newest007> just done it
[09:54] <rus_net> dxdt, maybe so, only I don't know how to do it.. I'm a recent convert :)
[09:54] <rus_net> ok, I'll try there, cheers
[09:55] <dxdt> newest007, ok, everything is open
[09:55] <newest007> just that, now my DHT is firewalled too?
[09:56] <newest007> and nat errors
[09:56] <newest007> weird?
[09:56] <newest007> acutally, ill restart azzy first
[09:57] <newest007> still nat errors :(
[09:58] <jelen> unop, thanks for help .. i'm going to reboot (just now I am runing installation cd and it doesn't allow me to edit /etc/apt/sources.list) so I have to try it on "real" system..
[09:58] <jelen> thnx, bye now
[09:58] <unop> ok :)
[09:58] <DragonLord> hi
[09:58] <Shaffox> hi
[09:58] <newest007> should i reinstall azureus?
[09:59] <frogzoo_> newest007: nope
[09:59] <frogzoo_> newest007: just check you have the port set in azzy, and the port forwarded from your router
[10:01] <newest007> still gettin nat error
[10:01] <humbolto> how can I make the feisty kernel available in edgy? get linux-source package and recompile? get the bin package and install??
[10:01] <unop> newest007,  i'm not used to azureus but in DC++ you need to set the mode in which it operates, active meaning it's on a public interface, passive meaning it is behind a router .. maybe there's such a setting in azureus too ?
[10:01] <humbolto> don't ask me why I want that, I have a perfectly good reason!
[10:02] <unop> humbolto,  the best way is to dist-upgrade to feisty
[10:02] <newest007> not sure myself unop, unfortunatly im not very good at this sort of thing
[10:02] <edawg26> Anyone have time for an ubuntu/default install gnome question?
[10:02] <humbolto> unop: but that's out of question until at least an rc release is out.
[10:03] <krinns> hi all
[10:03] <unop> humbolto,  you could force an install of the feisty kernel but it might bring in other feisty packages and then that might leave a lot of your edgy packages broken
[10:03] <humbolto> unop: so, what is the BEST way?
[10:04] <newest007> brb, tryin a reboot
[10:04] <darweth> dist-upgrade
[10:04] <unop> humbolto,  have you tried installing linux-image-2.6.19 ??
[10:04] <unop> humbolto,  manually i.e. ?
[10:05] <humbolto> unop: no. is this available in edgy?
[10:06] <unop> humbolto,  sorry, that'd be linux-image-2.6.20 .. and no this is not available for edgy .. it's for feisty
[10:06] <humbolto> unop: that's what I thought
[10:06] <unop> humbolto,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image-2.6.20&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all
[10:07] <humbolto> unop: I guess the best way would be to get linux-source-2.6.20 and recompile it with the debian or ubuntu magick in edgy?!
[10:07] <unop> humbolto,  or you could download and install the .deb from the repositories :)
[10:07] <unop> try i.e.
[10:09] <newest007> still got nat errors
[10:10] <unop> humbolto,  the latest might be this http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-8-386_2.6.20-8.14_i386.deb
[10:10] <unop> oops, thats a source package, hold on :)
[10:11] <unop> bahh no, its not a source package.. silly me, read too fast
[10:12] <newest007> any reason why i could still be getting nat errors?
[10:12] <humbolto> will give it a try
[10:12] <unop> newest007,  are you following a howto?
[10:13] <newest007> a how to?
[10:13] <rattlerviper> what is the best python editor for Ubuntu?
[10:13] <barata> hi, my java plugin for firefox sucks big time!
[10:13] <barata> anybody knows the jre name for apt-get-ing?
[10:13] <unop> humbolto,  i wash my hands of any responsibility for any problems arising due to the install of this eh .. its not supported on edgy and you must be aware of the implications of doing this :)
[10:14] <Enselic``> barata: apt-cache search jre
[10:14] <humbolto> unop: shouldn't it provide roughly the same kernel api?
[10:14] <cj_> acedentally deleted the apche folder in etc pls help thanks
[10:15] <frogzoo_> rattlerviper: emacs ?
[10:15] <unop> newest007,  a howto is a procedure to get something installed -- usually compiled by someone who has gotten the software installed successful :)
[10:15] <newest007> hangon a second
[10:15] <rattlerviper> frogzoo_, just checking to make sure there was nothing better thanks
[10:15] <unop> newest007,  but if you google for "azureus ubuntu", you'll see a lot of people having problems with it
[10:15] <newest007> would i have the same IP in ubuntu as i would in windows?
[10:15] <edawg26> rattleviper: do you like eclipse?
[10:15] <frogzoo_> newest007: if you're using dhcp, very likely
[10:16] <fiberchunks> netinstall of ubuntu from windows --- yummy :)
[10:16] <rattlerviper> edawg26, never tried it honestly
[10:16] <edawg26> Most people either like to use IDEs or they don't.
[10:16] <unop> humbolto, the kernel shouldnt be a problem .. its the package dependencies that might be a little tricky tho -- if you try and install this package manually and you dont get any complaints from dpkg, it ought to work quite well
[10:16] <edawg26> if you like IDEs then eclipse is decent, takes a little getting used to...
[10:16] <krinns> any one how i get zabbix-agent for ubuntu
[10:17] <edawg26> I used it a lot for java. I'm only recently learning Python so I haven't tried it yet
[10:17] <edawg26> but there IS an python editor for eclipse
[10:17] <krinns> when i do apt-get install zabbix-agent it says no package found
[10:17] <edawg26> package is called 'eclipse-pydev'
[10:17] <rattlerviper> edawg26, I'll install it and check it out right now
[10:17] <crazy_penguin> Hello!
[10:17] <Enselic``> hi
[10:17] <unop> edawg26,  there's python support for for eclipse if thats what you mean
[10:17] <glenn> can't help ya
[10:18] <niner4ever> i have a question
[10:18] <rus_net> Hi all, I asked the following question here a few minutes ago, and was directed to #ubuntu-effects, but no one seems to be awake there. If anyone here can help I would greatly appreciate it...I'm looking for some help with an X / nvidia driver problem. I'm new to Linux / Ubuntu. I was trying to install Beryl and followed the instructions at ubuntuguide.org to install the Nvidia Beta drivers and when I restarted X wouldn't start. A frie
[10:18] <edawg26> unop: I'm not quite sure actually. Is there 'python support' INSIDE of eclipse?
[10:18] <fiberchunks> folks, what's a good size for / partition for ubuntu?  I usually use 5G -- but that's with SuSE
[10:19] <edawg26> fiberchunks: as always, depends on what you wanna do ^^.
[10:19] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: depends if you plan to have any of the following as separate partitions - /home /var /usr
[10:19] <unop> edawg26,  errm, the way it works is you install plugins on eclipse to get it to work with other languages
[10:19] <rattlerviper> edawg26, eclipse is not "light" is it?
[10:19] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, home is separate, but the rest are in /
[10:19] <niner4ever> im trying to test servers on my lan but they dont seem to like it because I dont have a domain name
[10:19] <fiberchunks> this machine is mostly for light development and things of that nature
[10:19] <unop> rattlerviper,  no, its quite heavy and "slow" since it's java based :)
[10:20] <edawg26> rattleviper: nope, it's heavy, hehe. Usually people like IDEs or they don't.
[10:20] <nevron> people what is the best vector greaphics application under linux
[10:20] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: as long as you don't have any big databases or websites, 10-15gig
[10:20] <fiberchunks> 10-15G really - that big?  wow
[10:20] <rattlerviper> edawg26, well I'll soon know I've been using gedit
[10:20] <niner4ever> especially when i want to try <virtualhost> on apache
[10:20] <edawg26> unop: yeah, but like, the eclipse-pydev package SEEMS to install the correct plugins.. I'm testing it right now
[10:20] <unop> edawg26,  like emacs or vim I suppose you just install language support and off you go
[10:20] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: well, I install a lot of crap, you'd get by mostly on 5 maybe
[10:20] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, does ubuntu cache the apt-get'd packages, or does it remove them on install?
[10:20] <niner4ever> is there a way to make a domain without actually having one?
[10:21] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: it caches - you can set cache size & expiry periods - 500meg is typical
[10:21] <variant> !install
[10:21] <unop> edawg26,  well, you might need to fiddle about in eclipse to get this python support turned on .. i wouldnt know how tho
[10:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:21] <rattlerviper> niner4ever, are you just trying to run a home network?
[10:21] <fiberchunks> ah, cool, thanks
[10:21] <niner4ever> yeah
[10:21] <variant> niner4ever: try dyndns.org
[10:21] <edawg26> rattleviper: it's pretty much a question of, do you want an editor that is going to do basic syntax highlighting, give you colors/etc. Or do you want a heavy editor that is going to offer methods up as soon as you type in your class name/variable name...
[10:21] <ddnngg> any1 have unned cedega promo code ?? :>
[10:21] <edawg26> rattleviper: i'm checking it out right now to see what it can do...
[10:21] <niner4ever> yeah but i dont really want anyone else accessing my lan either
[10:21] <niner4ever> so i wont be port forwarding
[10:22] <niner4ever> would it still work?
[10:22] <rattlerviper> edawg26, thanks...I'm downloading it right now
[10:22] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, one more question: I usually use ext3 -- but I'm looking for a faster journalling filesystem -- what's the state of reiser these days?
[10:22] <edawg26> rattleviiper: but yeah, anyway you cut it, eclipse is HEAVY
[10:22] <unop> edawg26,  have you checked out the pydev documentation?
[10:22] <rattlerviper> edawg26, well my computer can handle it I just usually try to stay away from the fat
[10:22] <newest007> wierd, i even have a nat error for 6881 in azureus...
[10:22] <edawg26> unop: nope, haven't rtfm'ed, hehe. I'm just installing it and seeing if eclipse will show up with a python editor.
[10:22] <newest007> this is totally frustrating now...
[10:22] <unop> edawg26,  http://pydev.sourceforge.net/
[10:23] <niner4ever> variant: would those dynamic domains still work if i dont forward my ports?
[10:23] <newest007> because i have np with windows and portforwarding and azureus
[10:23] <rattlerviper> newest007, google port forward...
[10:23] <newest007> i did
[10:23] <newest007> i know how to portforward dude
[10:23] <newest007> i have before
[10:23] <newest007> successfully
[10:23] <newest007> np's at all
[10:23] <edawg26> unop: see, ubuntu makes it easy for the worst sorts of users who will apt-get install eclipse-pydev, let it drag in all the crud necessary, and test it out. All without reading the manual.
[10:23] <newest007> but ubuntu dont want a piece of it
[10:23] <rattlerviper> newest007, wierd your having a issue.
[10:23] <rus_net> Is anyone able to help with an X problem, error message: "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[10:23] <edawg26> unop: I will read this link you sent me though, thanks!
[10:24] <broadcast> hi
[10:24] <newest007> i just booted into windows xp before, and tried azureus on that, no nat errors what so ever
[10:24] <newest007> same port settings, everything
[10:24] <unop> edawg26,  a picture is indeed a thousand words - http://pydev.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html :)
[10:24] <newest007> but ubuntu wont let me do it
[10:25] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks:  a good question - but for a desktop, I doubt you'd notice the difference - if you want, you can disable atime, or if you're really pushing it, enable write back
[10:25] <rattlerviper> unop, nice
[10:25] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, many thanks :)
[10:26] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: much as I'd like to enable write back, that's a little too fruity for me
[10:26] <mzuverink> can i use fetchmail to get mail from my two gmail accounts and then somehow pipe them to spamassassin and then place them in a mailbox in my home dir to be accessable by thunderbird?
[10:26] <fiberchunks> indeed
[10:26] <fiberchunks> I was thinking about using this system for play mostly (it has no cdrom, floppy, etc, but it's new) so I'll probably dabble with XFS / JFS for giggles :)
[10:26] <unop> edawg26,  install pydev and try creating a new project or python file -- i should imagine eclipse autodetects based on filename and gets everything ready and set for you :)
[10:27] <unop> rattlerviper,  it looks nice .. but it's eclipse .. thats enough to tell me, not everything that glitters is gold :)
[10:27] <rattlerviper> unop, hahaha
[10:27] <edawg26> unop: It SHOULD but i'm having some trouble. Wants me to configure it. I can figure that out from the manual.
[10:28] <edawg26> its all a matter of opinion. Different tools for different people.
[10:28] <mzuverink> Where would be the proper channel to ask fetchmail related questions?
[10:29] <CheshireViking> when ubuntu boots I get a list of 4 figure hex numbers and fsck errors saying not fixed at the moment, but i don't see the whole message, is there a boot log that will give me the full error message so i can read it & try to fix it?
[10:29] <newest007>  oh man, this is just not right
[10:29] <newest007> i cant find anything!
[10:30] <unop> newest007,  why not invest your time in looking for another bittorrent client :) save your frustration
[10:30] <rattlerviper> night guys.  Talk to you all later
[10:30] <edawg26> rattleviper: Yeah, this won't work out of the box for me. If you're still interested in checking it out, Look at the screenshots in UNOP's link. If you're still interested in getting it to work we can chat about it more, I should have it going in a few minutes.
[10:30] <mneptok> newest007: what are you trying to do?
[10:30] <rattlerviper> edawg26, allright.  Just really tired right now.  For some reason it's downloading really slow for me.
[10:31] <newest007> cause demonoid dont like many other bittorent clients
[10:31] <newest007> none that i know of anyways
[10:31] <newest007> private trackers are pretty strict with clients
[10:31] <rattlerviper> newest007, you could always run utorrent under wine if your desperate.
[10:32] <mneptok> newest007: i'm happy to help. i have a lot of experience with BT and Ubuntu
[10:32] <rattlerviper> and utorrent is well accepted too.
[10:32] <rattlerviper> newest007, perhaps that would work for you.
[10:32] <rattlerviper> rattlerviper, well good night all
[10:34] <newest007> basically, ive portforwarded before, i was in windows xp not more than an hour ago, dl with azuerus nps at all, no nat errors nothin, but when im in ubuntu, i just get nat errors, and the DHT is also firewalled
[10:34] <newest007> yes my router is portforwarded
[10:34] <mneptok> newest007: does Ubuntu get the exact same IP address as Windows had?
[10:34] <newest007> im not sure how to check my ip in ubuntu
[10:34] <mneptok> ifconfig
[10:35] <newest007> its the eth0 i should be looking at?
[10:36] <mneptok> i don't know. i'm not in front of your machine. ;)
[10:36] <mneptok> do you use a wired or wireless connection?
[10:36] <newest007> wired
[10:36] <newest007> theres two things that show up
[10:36] <newest007> eth0 and lo
[10:36] <newest007> wiht infomation regarding both
[10:36] <glenn> good night all
[10:36] <mneptok> do you have other interfaces? do they have DHCP IP leases active?
[10:36] <cyphase> anyone know how to join the gobby session for editing the herd4 release notes?
[10:37] <newest007> not that i know of
[10:37] <mneptok> newest007: you want eth0, in that case
[10:37] <newest007> ah kk
[10:37] <newest007> then omg.. .lol
[10:37] <newest007> yes, ubuntu uses a diff ip i think
[10:37] <mneptok> then there's your problem
[10:37] <edawg26> newest007: it really depends on your dhcp server (build into your cable/dsl router if you have one).
[10:37] <mneptok> you're port forwarding to the wrong IP.
[10:39] <newest007> lol
[10:39] <newest007> gawd
[10:39] <newest007> i soooooooooo wish i knew a bit more about linux, lol
[10:40] <newest007> and voila!!!
[10:40] <newest007> nat error resolved!!!
[10:40] <newest007> yay!
[10:40] <newest007> thank you!!
[10:42] <newest007> thanks again! that was soo frustrating lol, have to go, bye :)
[10:43] <Keitaru> I've just installed ubuntu for the first time now how do you do those cool gui effects?
[10:43] <niner4ever> anyone care to solve another nat problem? lol
[10:43] <JackPhil> I can't poweroff  but reboot is perfect
[10:44] <niner4ever> how do i run a domain in lan without portforwarding
[10:44] <JackPhil> any solution?
[10:44] <unop> niner4ever,  and you want people on the internet to be aware of the domain?
[10:44] <mneptok> JackPhil: bot with the noacpi kernel parameter
[10:44] <mneptok> *boot
[10:44] <niner4ever> not really
[10:44] <niner4ever> just for my lan
[10:44] <frogzoo_> niner4ever: just nat might be sufficient
[10:45] <niner4ever> yeah but i cant test apache virtualhost stuff
[10:45] <unop> niner4ever,  whats portforward got to do with this then? just setup a DNS server and off you go :)
[10:45] <mneptok> Keitaru: those "cool GUI effects" are beta software, have steep hardware requirements, and are not ready for use by inexperienced users.
[10:45] <niner4ever> ah
[10:45] <unop> niner4ever,  or simplistically you can just edit the /etc/hosts file
[10:46] <niner4ever> yeah i had that idea
[10:46] <niner4ever> but i would have to edit all the /etc/host or windows host files on every computer
[10:46] <edawg26> rattlerviper: yeah, this python eclipse plugin seems to work ok and seems a bit userful, but I'm a newbie python programmer
[10:46] <niner4ever> but that dns server idea isnt too bad
[10:46] <unop> niner4ever,  say you want to test out www.example.com on apache .. edit the hosts file and add an entry for it .. firefox should then be able to browse to example.com at the IP address you specified
[10:46] <edawg26> rattleviper: I had to set it up a bit.
[10:46] <niner4ever> yeah i know that would works
[10:47] <niner4ever> how about if i run a dns server
[10:47] <niner4ever> set the router to look up to that dns server
[10:47] <niner4ever> with some bogus host name
[10:47] <unop> niner4ever,  if all the hosts want to be aware of a hostname then the best way is a DNS server
[10:47] <niner4ever> yeah cool
[10:47] <niner4ever> thanks man
[10:48] <unop> niner4ever,  if you setup a DNS server, you probably want all the hosts looking it up before the router
[10:48] <CheshireViking> when fsck finds errors at boot, but says "not fixing them at this time", is there a boot log file that will list the full error so I can try to fix it?
[10:48] <unop> niner4ever, but then again, you can configure the DNS server to also be a forwarder so it forwards requests it does not know about to the router and so on
[10:48] <JackPhil> mneptok, noacpi cannot boot my laptop
[10:48] <niner4ever> hmm i could just set it up on my router to look up to the local dns server right?
[10:49] <JackPhil> actually, i use acpi=off
[10:49] <niner4ever> or does the browsers look up the addresses elsewhere?
[10:49] <niner4ever> do*
[10:49] <unop> niner4ever,  errm, i wouldn't realy on a SOHO router to do that -- the software is either badly written to handle unusual situations or it's just plain incapable
[10:49] <edawg26> niner4ever: your browser will look where your computer's DNS is set to. If your computers get their DNS from the router's DHCP server then yeah, that'd work....
[10:50] <niner4ever> ah i got it
[10:50] <edawg26> niner4ever: but yeah, as unop said, the SoHo router might be broken/untested for a set up like that. I think it's worth a shot.
[10:50] <niner4ever> i'll look into it now
[10:50] <niner4ever> oO
[10:51] <variant> to switch from server to desktop install is it just to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[10:51] <unop> niner4ever, you could also setup NIS and have a shared /etc/hosts file .. so that one is propogated to all NIS capable hosts .. but that usually excludes windows hosts
[10:52] <niner4ever> yeah ><
[10:52] <niner4ever> majority of the hosts are windows here
[10:53] <unop> niner4ever,  DNS is better then
[10:53] <stylus> which identd works best with ubuntu?
[10:53] <Nitro-Wii> omg this place has so many users
[10:53] <wwwdotcomhere> Hello, how do I uninstall unbuntu?
[10:53] <Nitro-Wii> how do you install ubuntu
[10:54] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, you need to make a disc
[10:54] <Nitro-Wii> i have ubuntu installed lol
[10:54] <unop> stylus,  inetd and xinetd both work well .. you could also use other super-servers but those two are the most popular
[10:54] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, well, then stop being an ass, and please help me uninstall it
[10:55] <mackinac> wwwdotcomhere, install something else over it
[10:55] <Nitro-Wii> uninstall ubuntu why?
[10:55] <stylus> unop, ok.
[10:55] <wwwdotcomhere> mack, I tried, but it won't.  It goes to load
[10:55] <stylus> Thanking you.
[10:55] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, I have an old computer, and I need to put an older OS on
[10:56] <Nitro-Wii> boot from cd in boot priorities
[10:56] <Nitro-Wii> make sure it doseent boot from HD
[10:56] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, but that doesn't mean the OS is removed
[10:56] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: what are the specs of the machine? RAM? CPU?
[10:56] <wwwdotcomhere> mnep, old imac
[10:56] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: oh ... to uninstall
[10:56] <Nitro-Wii> wow
[10:56] <mackinac> wwwdotcomhere, when you install a new OS, the boot loader will be overwritten
[10:56] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: with what do you wish to replace Ubuntu?
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> mne, just 9.1 LOL
[10:57] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: is Classic installed now?
[10:57] <frogzoo_> any pointers to configuring pppd so it will stay up, or brings it back up when the link drops ?
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> Well, I believe so
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> but when I go to reboot
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> it loads ubuntu
[10:57] <Nitro-Wii> its there a bios in macs?
[10:57] <Nitro-Wii> is'
[10:58] <mneptok> Nitro-Wii: all computers have firmware.
[10:58] <Nitro-Wii> k
[10:58] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: do you have an OS Nein CD?
[10:58] <wwwdotcomhere> mne, no, I have a 9.1 cd
[10:58] <uwewes> nen
[10:58] <wwwdotcomhere> I made a unbuntu cd
[10:58] <Nitro-Wii> so you could set it to boot from a disc insted?
[10:58] <wwwdotcomhere> and now I am trying to revert back
[10:59] <mneptok> (and, if you care, i think Xubuntu is a *much* better idea on that machine than is OS Nein)
[10:59] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, again, that doesn't remove the OS, it just bypasses it on boot
[10:59] <wwwdotcomhere> mne, yes, but it loads slower, that's the problem
[10:59] <wwwdotcomhere> Really slow, like 30 minutes for a program to load
[11:00] <wwwdotcomhere> so I might as well use it for storage
[11:00] <wwwdotcomhere> and I can play media files
[11:00] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: boot off the 9.1 CD. run Drive Setup. use that to reformat the ext3 partitions as HFS+.
[11:00] <wwwdotcomhere> with 9.1
[11:00] <wwwdotcomhere> mne, when I tried to install, it asks for a drive but it lists none
[11:01] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: you need to run the Drive Setup utility
[11:01] <stylus> unop, the command to install inetd is simply "apt-get install inetd" correct?
[11:01] <wwwdotcomhere> ok, I'll try to find that
[11:01] <unop> stylus,  looks correct :)
[11:01] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: your disk is 100% in use. by Ubuntu. so the OS Nein installer is correct. you have no free space or partition for it.
[11:03] <Nitro-Wii> i have a question how come when i run Steam the game disro with wine i cant see any text?
[11:04] <Nitro-Wii> anyone?
[11:05] <Nitro-Wii> jeez
[11:06] <Nitro-Wii> a irc should never be this quiet
[11:08] <mackinac> do all partitions need a UUID in fstab?
[11:08] <unop> mackinac,  nope, you can use the old style devices too
[11:08] <Juhaz> or LABEL
[11:09] <mackinac> my Fat32 partition wont mount :(
[11:10] <fiberchunks> is the vfat module loaded?
[11:10] <stepanstas> how do you edit a file with sudo? (whats the command)
[11:10] <unop> mackinac, have you tried mounting it via the command line?
[11:10] <mackinac> i tried sudo mount -a
[11:10] <unop> stepanstas,  sudo $EDITOR /etc/fstab
[11:10] <Keitaru> I just broke X now I am in text based terminal
[11:10] <Nitro-Wii> lol
[11:11] <unop> mackinac,  try something like this - sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdx /mnt/point  .. substituting your device and mnt_pnt here
[11:11] <stepanstas> unop, and if i want to edit menu.lst where do i place it
[11:11] <mackinac> error: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4, missing codepage, or other error"
[11:11] <unop> stepanstas,  sudo $EDITOR /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:11] <wwwdotcomhere>  Looks, like it is working, I had to initialize ATAP which I guess gives it a drive to install the OS
[11:11] <unop> mackinac,  are you sure it is a FAT partition -- check with - fdisk -l
[11:12] <stepanstas> unop, thanks, and what editor is easies to use for a beginer
[11:12] <unop> stepanstas,  nano is pretty good for these things
[11:13] <unop> stepanstas,  i believe its installed by default on ubuntu and might also be the default $EDITOR .. check with - echo $EDITOR
[11:13] <mackinac> fdisk cannot open
[11:13] <unop> or - echo $VISUAL
[11:13] <fiberchunks> unop, what's the magic for checking DMA status on a hard drive (i can't bloody remember)
[11:14] <fiberchunks> mackinac, sudo fdisk -l
[11:14] <unop> fiberchunks,  hdparm?
[11:14] <fiberchunks> thanks :)
[11:14] <stylus> unop, is there anything else I must do for the identd to respond to requests?
[11:14] <stepanstas> unop, thanks a lot
[11:14] <mackinac> fiberchunks, ok ty
[11:14] <stepanstas> unop, you gave me the quick help i needed
[11:15] <unop> stylus,  errm, it needs an entry in it for the service it will provide .. and might need to be restarted if that was done
[11:15] <unop> stepanstas,  yw :)
[11:15] <stylus> unop, I haven't added that entry then I guess.
[11:15] <mackinac> unop, fdisc doesn't say what file system, neither does device manager
[11:16] <stylus> unop, how can I do so?
[11:16] <unop> stylus,  what service do you want to serve?
[11:16] <mackinac> unop, guess I should try gparted to reformat?
[11:16] <SoulChild> HEY ALL... I have this strange PRoblem that Links in Thunderbird or X-Chat (anywhere) do not open???
[11:16] <fiberchunks> fdisk -l should list all partitions on all devices, and the type is under the 'System' colum
[11:16] <stylus> unop, ident
[11:16] <unop> mackinac,  does fdisk list the FS type for the other partitions ?
[11:17] <unop> stylus,  errm, i guess you might also need ident/identd installed to
[11:17] <unop> stylus,  google for this "ident inetd" .. i bet you'll get lots of results
[11:17] <unop> :)
[11:17] <mackinac> unop, oh, i thought i had to specify the disk ... ok it says "W95 FAT32"
[11:17] <fiberchunks> mackinac, sudo lsmod | grep vfat
[11:18] <fiberchunks> does it say anything, or just give you another prompt
[11:18] <mackinac> vfat  14720  0
[11:19] <mackinac> fat  56348  1  vfat
[11:19] <fiberchunks> mmm, k the module is loaded
[11:20] <unop> fiberchunks,  [ `sudo lsmod | grep vfat` ]  && echo "yes, vfat loaded"  :) :>
[11:20] <fiberchunks> heh
[11:20] <unop> mackinac,  are you sure you are using the mount command the right way?
[11:21] <unop> mackinac, and on the right device too?
[11:21] <mackinac> "sudo mount -a"
[11:21] <unop> mackinac,  dude but if the /etc/fstab entry is wonky, that's useless really
[11:21] <SysDoc> Anyone have good link for trouble shooting a grub reinstall? Had to install Xp again and grub isn't liking something and not booting linux
[11:22] <unop> mackinac,  try mounting from the command line before adding an entry into /etc/fstab
[11:22] <frogzoo> !grub > SysDoc
[11:22] <mackinac> unop, ok ill try specific
[11:23] <mackinac> unop, what options should I use?
[11:23] <variant> !flash9
[11:23] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:23] <variant> !flash
[11:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:24] <unop> mackinac,  simply, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdX /mnt/point
[11:24] <Nitro-Wii> how do i install 32 bit flash for 64 bit
[11:24] <Nitro-Wii> ?
[11:24] <SysDoc> frogzoo thanks but have tried all those methods
[11:24] <unop> Nitro-Wii,  you probably need a seperate chroot for that
[11:25] <Nitro-Wii> mm
[11:25] <unop> !chroot > Nitro-Wii
[11:25] <Nitro-Wii> :O no wai
[11:25] <unop> eh?
[11:26] <niner4ever`> unop you're right my soho router doesnt have option to set dns server
[11:26] <niner4ever`> unless i use static pppoe
[11:26] <Viroo> how can I "flush" the cache ?
[11:26] <niner4ever`> there's an option for local domain name but it doesnt specify which ip
[11:26] <niner4ever`> so i guess i'll just go for an easy fix
[11:26] <mackinac> unop: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4, missing codepage, or other error"
[11:26] <Viroo> how can I "flush" the cache ?
[11:26] <frogzoo> SysDoc: can you get to a grub prompt?
[11:27] <SysDoc> yea
[11:27] <frogzoo> SysDoc: find /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:27] <niner4ever`> I'd hand out emails to add " ip > test host" to host files
[11:27] <niner4ever`> lol
[11:27] <unop> niner4ever`,  can you change the DHCP options on the router??
[11:27] <mackinac> unop, "dmesg | tail" gave me: "cant find a valid fat filesystem"
[11:27] <niner4ever`> yeah
[11:27] <Viroo> how can I "flush" the cache ?
[11:27] <mackinac> unop: and "bogus sectors per cluster"
[11:28] <Viroo> anyone?
[11:28] <patrick_king> does anyone know of a good back up program
[11:28] <unop> mackinac,  and are you sure /dev/hda4 exists and is the win95 FAT partition as per fdisk -l ?
[11:28] <niner4ever`> lemme show you
[11:28] <frogzoo> Virtuall: sudo apt-get clean                if you mean the apt cache
[11:28] <patrick_king> for directories
[11:29] <unop> niner4ever`,  if thats the case, you might be able to set the DNS server options for the clients
[11:29] <SysDoc> frogzoo, I have access to all the files and have got grub reinstalled, just tells me that the partitions are not mountable
[11:29] <mackinac> unop, yes .... maybe the drive is too big for my mobo / bios firmware?
[11:29] <niner4ever`> hmm what do you mean
[11:29] <niner4ever`> it just says Local domain name " blank " (optional)
[11:29] <niner4ever`> it doesnt say where
[11:29] <niner4ever`> http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/di624/h_lan.html
[11:30] <mackinac> unop, i thought since the partition manager saw 250GB it was fine, but...
[11:30] <muuhDBX> will ubuntu have something like http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ ?
[11:31] <niner4ever`> oh what i was saying is it only gives me options to set dns address for static PPPoE
[11:31] <wwwdotcomhere> Well, if ubuntu doesn't do codec games like windows does, I would be quite happy putting it on this computer
[11:31] <niner4ever`> but mine is dynamic and I cant change the dns server when its dynamic
[11:32] <unop> mackinac,  probably - you got a windows machine?
[11:32] <mackinac> yeah, sort of...
[11:32] <unop> niner4ever`,  usually you have an option somewhere here to set the DNS servers the clients recieve - http://support.dlink.com/Emulators/di624/h_dhcp.html
[11:32] <marvin_> hello room..pls help me I"m trying to install tomboy
[11:32] <niner4ever`> ah
[11:32] <unop> mackinac, you could go back into windows and run a chkdsk on the drive
[11:33] <niner4ever`> its actually the wrong router
[11:33] <nknwd> does anyone know how to install pyGTK-devel ?
[11:33] <niner4ever`> i have di624 too but different version
[11:33] <niner4ever`> and the one i have doesnt give me the option
[11:33] <mackinac> unop, ok, thanks for the help :)
[11:33] <unop> niner4ever`,  but all is not lost, you can also setup a DHCP server yourself and configure all these things
[11:33] <niner4ever`> when i select dynamic
[11:33] <niner4ever`> yeah
[11:33] <muuhDBX> will ubuntu have something like http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ ?
[11:33] <niner4ever`> lemme see if any firmware update would help
[11:34] <unop> mackinac,  if that doesnt help -- you can create a new FAT partition and copy files over or convert the drive to NTFS
[11:34] <agliv5> Greetings all :) Having problems with Licq playing sounds... sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't although I haven't made any changes to the settings... Can anyone help me out?
[11:34] <unop> niner4ever`,  i meant a DHCP server on a linux box :)
[11:34] <nknwd> DOES anyone know how to install pyGTK-devel ?
[11:34] <niner4ever`> ah ok
[11:34] <mackinac> unop, not a problem as this drive is new and empty :) ... thanks!
[11:35] <unop> mackinac,  ahh, you should be able to delete the partition and recreate the file system again :)
[11:35] <niner4ever`> i'll play around with it a little
[11:35] <niner4ever`> thanks again unop
[11:35] <mackinac> unop, yeah i'll give that a shot
[11:35] <unop> mackinac,  actually just recreate the FAT filesystem again -- man mkfs
[11:35] <fiberchunks> or, if you're not bound to having to have it be vfat, put a linux fs on there
[11:35] <marvin_> hello room..pls help me I"m trying to install tomboy
[11:35] <bimberi> nknwd: python-gtk2-dev
[11:35] <mackinac> fiberchunks, i'll try that too, thanks!
[11:36] <unop> mackinac,  i think its as simple as -- sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hda4   (please verify)
[11:36] <fiberchunks> mackinac, is there any particular reason it needs to be a windows-based filesystem?
[11:37] <fiberchunks> ex. because it's a windows installation drive or some such thing?
[11:37] <nknwd> thanks bimberi
[11:38] <mackinac> unop, that seems to have worked! :)
[11:38] <mackinac> be right back
[11:38] <muuhDBX> will ubuntu have something like http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ ????
[11:39] <ycmarvin> hello room..pls help me I"m trying to install tomboy
[11:39] <wwwdotcomhere> How is ubuntu better than debian?
[11:39] <ikonia> its different
[11:39] <unop> muuhDBX,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/
[11:39] <ikonia> its just opinions
[11:40] <ycmarvin> hello room..pls help me I"m trying to install tomboy.. ./configure worked but after that.. the make command doesnt work
[11:40] <ikonia> I fail to understand why we need the install.exe project
[11:40] <ikonia> ycmarvin: what is the error
[11:40] <ycmarvin> no targets specified no target found
[11:40] <freebse> what the hell is this debian.exe anyway
[11:40] <ikonia> ycmarvin: you're configure didn't work
[11:40] <ikonia> freebse its an install from within windows
[11:41] <ycmarvin> what should I do then...
[11:41] <freebse> ikonia: I thought something like that, do we really need this ?
[11:41] <unop> ikonia,  because a majority of the target audience has no idea what a partition is (forget getting them to partition) .. an installer that takes care of all these issues is a right way to go to attract the "clueless" (forgive my insensitivity) :)
[11:41] <frogzoo_> anyone give me some pointers to configuring pppd params to keep the link up even when it drops temporarily?
[11:42] <ikonia> unop: thats unacceptable, I still can't get behind that project
[11:42] <ycmarvin> I also have a problem with firestarter..it doesn't start automatically
[11:42] <mackinac> fiberchunks, simply for win compatibility
[11:43] <K-Rich> not sure who to tell but i'm getting hits on random ports when connecting to archive.ubuntu.com  (91.189.89.182) when updating packages ports in the 40000 to 60000
[11:43] <K-Rich> range
[11:43] <fiberchunks> mackinac, ah, ic
[11:44] <unop> ikonia,  it really doesnt affect the users who like to do things the old style way or those who know how to partition .. can a 10 year old windows user install linux using a live CD (well maybe, but theres still a chance he could botch the install and/or ruin the existing windows install his family wants) .. if he just ran install.exe (typical windows), it's quite straight forward
[11:45] <ycmarvin> here's the error when I run ./configure for tomboy .. can't find mcs path
[11:46] <ikonia> unop: I appriciate that, but how much are we dumming this down............ eg: if a user can't install windows, he normally goes to his local PC shop or mate, should the same not be for ubuntu. eg; your not at the level where you can install "an OS" so get someone else to do it
[11:46] <ikonia> ycmarvin: you told me configure was working fine
[11:46] <ycmarvin> ikonia, yes I thought it was. i got it wrong
[11:47] <mackinac> unop, apparently the formatting at install didn't take... all is good now - thanks again :)
[11:48] <fotoflo> hey everyone
[11:48] <lufeng> ?
[11:48] <ikonia> hello
[11:48] <fotoflo> got a quick question: when i ssh into my ubuntu box it says i have new mail, but i dont have pine or elm and aptget doesnt work for pine or elm... how do i check it?
[11:49] <fiberchunks> fotoflo, mail
[11:49] <fotoflo> lufeng: ni hao
[11:49] <ikonia> mutt ? biff ? mail ?
[11:49] <lufeng> ni hao
[11:49] <fotoflo> command not found x3
[11:49] <lufeng> da jia hao
[11:49] <ycmarvin> ikonia im doing the sudo apt-get build-dep tomboy
[11:49] <ikonia> fotoflo: install a mail client
[11:49] <ycmarvin> got that tip just now
[11:49] <unop> ikonia,  ok, well, do you accept that once ubuntu is up and running that any user, even a kid can install any application he wants and be totally at home with the setup??
[11:49] <fotoflo> command not found x3i have evolution
[11:50] <fotoflo> err
[11:50] <ycmarvin> is there a way to make firestarter automatically start
[11:50] <fotoflo> i have evolution
[11:50] <ikonia> fotoflo: you need something what will read mail fomat
[11:50] <ikonia> mutt, mail, pine, etc
[11:50] <fotoflo> ikonia theres no package for pine or elm
[11:50] <geckino> I wanna install mod_security 1.9 or 2 for apache, have an idea?
[11:50] <geckino> *apache2
[11:50] <ikonia> fotoflo: ok - use mutt
[11:51] <fotoflo> getting mutt
[11:51] <fotoflo> whats mutt?
[11:51] <fotoflo> stds?
[11:51] <ikonia> a mail client like pine
[11:51] <fotoflo> err ssds
[11:52] <fotoflo> ikonia, running it for the first time, it says my mail folder dosnt exist
[11:52] <ikonia> fotoflo: man it and read how to set it up
[11:52] <fiberchunks> what's the command in debian ubuntu speak for searching for packages?
[11:52] <ycmarvin> bye room
[11:52] <ikonia> apt-cache
[11:52] <ikonia> bye
[11:53] <fotoflo> ikonia,  ok :-)
[11:53] <fiberchunks> thx
[11:53] <fotoflo> ikonia, it worked
[11:53] <unop> fiberchunks,  apt-cache search something   or  aptitude search "regular expression"
[11:53] <Dimensions> Hiya can we install ubuntu on 1 GB USB Flash Drive .... as one of my friend did but he couldn't save data between sessions .... ??
[11:53] <ikonia> Dimensions: I'd advise against that
[11:54] <fiberchunks> unop, thx again
[11:54] <MattJ> I need some ideas for what could be wrong with my sound
[11:55] <unop> Dimensions,  well, why or what couldnt he save? out of space?
[11:55] <MattJ> No apps can detect the sound card, and it happened just... suddenly
[11:55] <ikonia> MattJ: not configured, speakers not got volume turned up, wrong drivers,
[11:55] <Dimensions> ikonia:  i need a linux OS on a USB flash drive fully working ... currently i use ubuntu on all of our systems in office and deployments ... and im happy with ubuntu but donno which flavour i should try then ...
[11:55] <MattJ> One day it worked, next day it didn't
[11:55] <frogzoo_> MattJ: usually it's just cos people have a mute - check sound -> volume control - file -> deivices   & edit -> preferences
[11:55] <ikonia> Dimensions: why do you need it on a usb pen /
[11:55] <MattJ> ikonia: Explain how I have been using it for months with the wrong drivers? :)
[11:55] <MattJ> It's not muted
[11:56] <Dimensions> unop:  he created directories but when rebooted system they were gone ...
[11:56] <ikonia> MattJ: you've downloaded the ubuntu update, you've installed an app the changed the configuration
[11:56] <MattJ> The mixer settings are not there
[11:56] <ikonia> MattJ: what do you mean the mixer settings are not there
[11:56] <Dimensions> ikonia:  to save the space ... we need small factor units ... just like gumstix
[11:56] <unop> Dimensions,  it's hard to see ubuntu fitting on 1GB, even on a very minimal install -- and then you have to take into consideration space you need for yourself
[11:56] <ikonia> to save space ??? disk space or desk space ?
[11:56] <MattJ> I'm using Xfce, and the panel item shows no settings, because there are no sound devices
[11:56] <Dimensions> ikonia:  desk ...
[11:57] <MattJ> amixer also reports "Device not found"
[11:57] <unop> Dimensions,  DSL is probably the way to go with a 1GB pendrive
[11:57] <ikonia> Dimensions: but you'll still need a PC to plug the drive into - how is that saving space ?
[11:57] <Dimensions> unop: we just need abt 10 mb for our self
[11:57] <frogzoo_> MattJ: easiest might be install alsamixer
[11:57] <unop> Dimensions,  even then, i just cant see ubuntu fitting on 1GB, however much you shave off
[11:58] <MattJ> frogzoo_: I have it
[11:58] <MattJ> $ alsamixer
[11:58] <MattJ> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[11:58] <ikonia> MattJ: which device is it looking for ?
[11:58] <unop> MattJ,  would you happen to have 2 sound cards -- one onboard maybe?
[11:58] <MattJ> Like I said, it was working fine a day or two ago
[11:58] <MattJ> and it has been since I installed Ubuntu
[11:58] <unop> MattJ,  thats not the answer to the question :)
[11:58] <ikonia> MattJ: you've said that 3 times - it doesn't change the fact that its not working now
[11:58] <MattJ> I do, as it happens
[11:58] <g4l84t0r1x> gi
[11:58] <g4l84t0r1x> fds
[11:58] <frogzoo_> MattJ: dapper or edgy?
[11:58] <MattJ> But the onboard is disabled
[11:58] <MattJ> Edgy
[11:59] <unop> MattJ,  use asoundconf to see if alsa is using the right card/device
[11:59] <Dimensions> ikonia:  the pc it self is 4*4
[11:59] <ikonia> Dimensions: I advise strongly against it
[11:59] <MattJ> ~$ asoundconf list
[11:59] <MattJ> Names of available sound cards:
[11:59] <MattJ> UART
[11:59] <Dimensions> unop:  and if i use 2 GB drive ?
[11:59] <MattJ> I have a SOundBlaster
[12:00] <MattJ> *SoundBlaster
[12:00] <Chousuke> how can I control the fan in my laptop?
[12:00] <ikonia> Dimensions: you'd have more space
[12:00] <Chousuke> ubuntu isn't spinning it up when needed, so my computer gets too hot.
[12:00] <unop> Dimensions,  errm, you could probably get away with it, yea
[12:00] <fiberchunks> is there an equivalent to a /etc/SUSE-release file ?
[12:01] <unop> fiberchunks,  /etc/release ?
[12:01] <Jowi> fiberchunks, lsb_release
[12:01] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: /usr/share/doc/
[12:01] <Dimensions> ikonia:  but will i be able to save data ? just like a folder with few MB space i.e 100 mb ?
[12:01] <fiberchunks> thx
[12:01] <Jowi> fiberchunks, /etc/lsb-release even
[12:01] <unop> Dimensions,  yes
[12:02] <Dimensions> thanks unop and ikonia :)
[12:02] <Dimensions> ikonia:  if it was my own pc i would never need to try it ... but as i have been asked to do it ... so i have to ...
[12:03] <CapRiCoRN^80> can i install ubuntu sparc thr net
[12:03] <unop> Dimensions,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 might help
[12:05] <unop> Dimensions,  or better http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308027
[12:06] <MattJ> I think I'll have to post on the forums
[12:07] <MattJ> I followed a guide on there, to remove and reinstall alsa, but it didn't help
[12:07] <CheshireViking> when fsck finds errors at boot, does it store the error in a specific log file? I'm getting an error, but i only see the very end of it, the rest scrolls off the screen, if it gets kept in a log file I can try & solve it?
[12:08] <MattJ> Look in  /var/log/fsck/
[12:09] <cot> whois
[12:09] <cot> cot
[12:10] <CheshireViking> MattJ, thanks for that, i'll have a look tonight when i get home to the machine
[12:13] <nevron> people is there a driver for sblive 24bit usb sound cards
[12:13] <Jowi> hmmm, created a hard link. removed the created link. the original is not removed. is this normal?
[12:13] <CaptainMorgan> is it possible to lift text from a picture in Gimp?
[12:14] <agliv5> Greetings all :) Having problems with Licq playing sounds... sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't although I haven't made any changes to the settings... Can anyone help me out?
[12:14] <zoli2k> How can I remove all non-alphabetic character in a text file?
[12:14] <nevron> i checked ubuntu forums but couldnt find anything about sblive 24bit sound drivers for usb
[12:15] <unop> zoli2k,  perl -pe 's/\W//g' file
[12:15] <unop> zoli2k, oops,  perl -i.bak -pe 's/\W//g' file
[12:15] <CapRiCoRN^80> can i install ubuntu sparc throught net on sun blade 150 ???
[12:16] <giorgiga> Hi guys - sorry to bother
[12:16] <giorgiga> I'm running the latest (unstable) Ubuntu - after today's update I'm no longer able to unlock the pc... I imagine there is a problem in GDM...
[12:16] <giorgiga> Does anyone know where I can report this?
[12:16] <frogzoo> CapRiCoRN^80: you can use the dodge tool to lighten a selected area - if the text is transparent yes, you can remove it
[12:16] <zoli2k> unop, thank you, you are the fastest :)
[12:17] <mackinac> !feisty
[12:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:17] <unop> zoli2k,  yw :) .. it still hangs on to underscores tho .. you'll need s/\W|_//g if you want them removed
 : didnt get u ?
[12:18] <zoli2k> unop: If I  want to preserve space also ?
[12:18] <frogzoo> zoli2k: strings might do what you want
[12:19] <nevron> isnt there anybody that knows about soundcards
[12:19] <unop> zoli2k,  s/[^\w\s] //g
[12:19] <giorgiga> thanks ubotu - I'll try #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <zoli2k> unop: thx
[12:19] <nevron> is there a better channel that i can ask about soundcards generallt
[12:20] <ucordes> how can i get rid of the bootsplash in order to see the regular booting progress?
[12:20] <coNP> ucordes: edit you /boot/grub/menu.lst and get rid of quiet and usplash in the entries
[12:21] <unop> ucordes,  edit the grub menu.lst and remove the word 'splash' from the particular boot entry
[12:21] <MattJ> Does lspci list /all/ my PCI cards, or only those loaded?
[12:21] <ucordes> coNP, unop: thanks
[12:21] <MattJ> Because it does not list my soundcard
[12:21] <unop> MattJ,  all those seen by linux, and those loaded by the BIOS
[12:21] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there an IRC channel for the PowerPC port of ubuntu?
[12:22] <ucordes> unop: what are the parameters ro and single for?
[12:22] <nevron> how can i get a channel list?
[12:23] <ardchoille> nevron: With the amount of channels, it'd likely flood you off the network.
[12:23] <unop> MattJ,  hmm, maybe your soundcard is listed there under another name or by generic card name
[12:23] <nevron> ardchoille do you know of a channel about soundcards
[12:23] <MattJ> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5701/
[12:24] <unop> ucordes,  ro and single correspond to the recovery mode - meaning boot into "single" user mode and ensure everything is loaded "read-only"
[12:24] <ucordes> unop: i see. thank you
[12:25] <ardchoille> nevron: No, sorry
[12:25] <coNP> nevron: you can ask gaim to list channels
[12:25] <coNP> nevron: I guess
[12:25] <unop> MattJ,  errm, yea, it's not detected here -- have a look at what  lshw or hwinfo detect
[12:26] <ienik> unop: i'm back (if you remember my old nickname - jelen - and skype troubles)
[12:26] <nevron> conP ok i am doing that
[12:26] <mackinac> nevron, there is #alsa ...
[12:26] <unop> ienik,  yes :)
[12:26] <nevron> makinac is it about soundcards
[12:27] <olimpico> Can someone help me please, I read in the internet that the TP-Link wireless card worked out of the box, but it doesn't. Please give me a hint, I was not able to find in the internet a howto, apparently it should work automatically
[12:27] <mackinac> alsa is a sound platform
[12:27] <unop> ienik,  did you have any luck?
[12:28] <mneptok> olimpico: what chipset does the card use?
[12:28] <soundray> olimpico: manufacturers sometimes change the chipset of a model without changing the model name.
[12:28] <ienik> unop: so, now it's running.. I forget to install 32bit libs for my amd64... so now it's working.. :) thanks for your help
[12:29] <nevron> mackinac my problem is really primitive i couldnt get ubuntu to use the sblive 24 bit soundcard as the default sound device
[12:29] <olimpico> mneptok: It's the TL-WN610G
[12:29] <olimpico> From the internet I got the following:
[12:29] <olimpico> 0000:06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[12:29] <olimpico> Subsystem: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 1051
[12:29] <olimpico> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11
[12:29] <olimpico> Memory at 26000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] 
[12:29] <olimpico> Capabilities: [44]  Power Management version 2
[12:29] <mackinac> nevron, sry, I don't have experience with that
[12:29] <ucordes> how can i change the VGA mode in command line ( ctrl+F1...F6) ?
[12:29] <real_mayo> hi
[12:30] <erUSUL> ubotu tell olimpico about pastebin | olimpico see priv msg from ubotu
[12:30] <MattJ> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5703/
[12:30] <real_mayo> is this the right place to ask questions?
[12:30] <unop> ienik,  yw :)
[12:30] <nevron> it uses the mpu-401 uart now
[12:30] <ienik> :] 
[12:30] <ucordes> real_mayo: ubuntu specific questions, yes
[12:30] <real_mayo> oh ok thanks
[12:30] <mneptok> olimpico: Edgy?
[12:31] <olimpico> BUT my card is not even recognized
[12:31] <olimpico> mneptok: YES!
[12:31] <soundray> olimpico: see if you find a similar line in the output of 'lspci'
[12:31] <real_mayo> how do i mount a fat32 partition thats probably going to be mainly used for storage?
[12:31] <mneptok> olimpico: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[12:31] <real_mayo> i tried the documentated ugides
[12:31] <real_mayo> i can see the partition except i can't exactly access it
[12:31] <olimpico> Yes, it says Ethernet controller: Atheros communications
[12:32] <mneptok> olimpico: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[12:32] <mneptok> olimpico: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[12:32] <mneptok> olimpico: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[12:32] <ucordes> real_mayo: fat32 should be mounted automatically afaik. don't matter if you are gonna use it for storage or something else. between, talking about storage fat32 isn't the real deal since max. file size is 4gb or something
[12:32] <soundray> !fat32 | real_mayo
[12:32] <ubotu> real_mayo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[12:33] <real_mayo> i went to that site
[12:33] <olimpico> mneptok: Are you sure is linux-restricted-modules???
[12:33] <real_mayo> i created the partition in GParted
[12:33] <mneptok> olimpico: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[12:33] <olimpico> mneptok: Are you sure is linux-restricted-modules???
[12:33] <assasukasse> hi all
[12:33] <unska_> is it possible to do a script that opens ssh connection, gives my password to the connection, waits till the connection is established, writes screen -r. everytime the computer is booting up?
[12:33] <soundray> real_mayo: pay particular attention to the table that describes the mount options
[12:33] <ucordes> olimpico: what you want is the madwifi driver which is included in  sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[12:34] <soundray> !autossh | unska_
[12:34] <ubotu> unska_: autossh: Automatically restart SSH sessions and tunnels. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-4 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:34] <unop> MattJ,  this is not good .. are you sure you havent disabled this card in the BIOS ??
[12:34] <MattJ> I haven't even touched the BIOS :/
[12:34] <ucordes> olimpico: you can also get it here and compile it manually. advantage is you get the latest version in that way
[12:34] <ucordes> olimpico: www.madwifi.org
[12:34] <unska_> soundray, can it write the screen -r?
[12:34] <unop> MattJ,  do you have the live CD around?
[12:34] <MattJ> I do, somewhere
[12:35] <LeonWP> hello
[12:35] <real_mayo> which one do you mean?
[12:35] <erUSUL> olimpico: sudo apt-get install liunx-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[12:35] <LeonWP> how can I see the current CPU frequency?
[12:35] <unop> MattJ,  if i were you i'd boot into a couple of other OSes to see if it is detected there
[12:35] <real_mayo> soundray: which one do you mean?
[12:35] <mneptok> erUSUL: that is not correct
[12:35] <MattJ> Ok, I'll try it
[12:35] <LeonWP> it seems that the live cd kernel has the cpufreq governor enabled, so I wonder how to watch it
[12:35] <mneptok> erUSUL: the meta package should arways be used.
[12:35] <mneptok> *always
[12:36] <unop> MattJ, if thats not detected, ensure the card is seated in the slot well and try again
[12:36] <soundray> unska_: what you're trying to do is impossible to do safely.
[12:36] <real_mayo> soundray: which table were you referring to?
[12:37] <unop> unska_,  what is this "screen -r" ?
[12:38] <soundray> unop: GNU screen
[12:38] <ucordes> !screen | unop
[12:38] <ubotu> unop: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[12:38] <selinuxium> hi all, how dangerous is it to enable the backports repository? e
[12:38] <selinuxium> I am using edgy
[12:38] <ucordes> selinuxium: i always did fine with the backports
[12:38] <soundray> unska_: what's the problem with starting 'ssh remotehost screen -r' manually?
[12:38] <ucordes> selinuxium: but the normal repos are mor stable
[12:38] <unop> unska_,  you can have password-less SSH connections .. so in theory it is possible to run a command line , something like -- ssh user@host screen -r
[12:38] <unska_> soundray, are you seriously asking that?
[12:39] <erUSUL> mneptok: i stand corrected, thanks :)
[12:39] <selinuxium> ucordes: cheers :)
[12:39] <soundray> unska_: no, I take it back and will refrain from asking you anything anymore
[12:41] <ucordes> lol
[12:41] <unska_> =)
[12:41] <unop> unska_,  actually -- screen complains that it needs to be connected to a terminal when used with ssh .. so, i dont think it is possible
[12:41] <jrib> selinuxium: in the past there were some hiccups, but more recently I haven't seen any problems with them.  They seem to have gotten the process down :)
[12:41] <unska_> unop, damn =/
[12:41] <unska_> well i guess i have to do it manually then
[12:41] <unop> unska_,  run screen from within ~/.profile on the remote machine tho :)
[12:42] <unska_> =)
[12:42] <unop> unska_,  http://www.snailbook.com/faq/no-passphrase.auto.html
[12:43] <mneptok> passwordless ssh keys are THE DEVIL!
[12:43] <ucordes> can somebody help with my problem described above?
[12:44] <ucordes> mneptok: you serious? i thought password files are more save
[12:44] <mneptok> please, don't set your machine up to become an open spam realy and botgarage simply to save yourself a few keystrokes every day.
[12:44] <unska_> hehe thanks
[12:44] <unop> mneptok,  only if your keyfile is available to the world
[12:45] <mneptok> unop: oh right. of course. no data has EVER been taken off a machine without the owner's knowledge ;)
[12:45] <unop> mneptok,  that really has nothing to do with ssh now, does it? :)
[12:45] <ucordes> unop: sure it does
[12:45] <finn> does anybody know the filebrowser in http://www.boxwhore.org/modules/wfdownloads/images/screenshots/screenshot-2.png
[12:46] <finn> and if it's a good one?
[12:46] <mneptok> unop: it *does* have to do with passwordless keys being a giant security risk.
[12:47] <mneptok> finn: looks like Nautilus to me
[12:47] <unop> ucordes,  mneptok -- if you let someone take data off of your machine, then ssh keys are probably the last thing you want to be worried about
[12:47] <ardchoille> finn: Looks like nautilus with some things turned off.
[12:47] <finn> ok, thanks
[12:47] <soundray> unop: to change the VGA mode on the ttys, you have to boot with a vga= command line option
[12:47] <unop> soundray,  eh?
[12:47] <erUSUL> !info expect
[12:47] <soundray> ucordes: to change the VGA mode on the ttys, you have to boot with a vga= command line option
[12:47] <soundray> sorry unop
[12:47] <ubotu> expect: A program that can automate interactive applications. In component main, is optional. Version 5.43.0-6 (edgy), package size 274 kB, installed size 520 kB
[12:47] <mneptok> unop: dude, do you think data gets comprmised only when an owner "lets" it?
[12:47] <unop> soundray,  no worries :)
[12:47] <jenda> any other CLI web browsers than Lynks?
[12:48] <occasus> links
[12:48] <mneptok> jenda: w3m
[12:48] <occasus> or lynx :P
[12:48] <mneptok> jenda: it's in Main
[12:48] <unop> mneptok,  now really, this is way beyond the scope of SSH
[12:48] <mneptok> unop: no, it's not.
[12:48] <ucordes> soundray: in the /boot/grub/menu.lst? and how can i find out the right mode to set?
[12:48] <ucordes> jenda: links2
[12:49] <mneptok> unop: trust me. i've been doing this stuff for years. no sane sysadmin allows passwordless ssh keys.
[12:49] <erUSUL> finn: given that it is used with fluxbox i bet it is ROX Filler
[12:49] <soundray> ucordes: add it to the #kopt= line
[12:49] <unop> mneptok,  heh, i guess you have never needed to ssh from within a script then
[12:49] <jenda> mneptok, ucordes, thanks.
[12:49] <soundray> ucordes: there is a table somewhere in the kernel docs, hold on...
[12:49] <mneptok> unop: you ID for the key at login.
[12:50] <unop> mneptok,  i mean non-interactively
[12:50] <mneptok> unop: man ssh-agent
[12:50] <ucordes> temperature:             65 C mit frei zugnglichen lftungsschlitzen
[12:51] <ucordes> soundray: k thanks
[12:51] <soundray> ucordes: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
[12:52] <unop> mneptok,  lol errm, and nothing has ever been taken from ssh-agent, right?
[12:52] <mneptok> unop: huh?
[12:52] <mneptok> unop: that makes no sense
[12:54] <steel_lady> I don't know what is happening, I don't have right clik any more?!!!
[12:54] <unska_> where could be the problem, vlc player is not printing all the subtitles, it prints like every 10th line =/
[12:54] <unska_> but the subtitle file has all the subtitles
[12:54] <ardchoille> steel_lady: on the desktop or anywhere?
[12:54] <unska_> and fps etc is set correctly
[12:54] <Boknoy> where can i get free cd and free shipping here in davao city, philippines?
[12:54] <Morrissey> Hi, can anyone confirm that kde-look.org is down please?
[12:55] <steel_lady> ardochiolle, anywhere!
[12:55] <ardchoille> Morrissey: All of the 222.*-look.org are down.
[12:55] <soundray> Morrissey: confirmed
[12:55] <unska_> can you tell me another player that can play subtitles so i can test if they work
[12:55] <jrib> Boknoy: shipit.ubuntu.com maybe
[12:55] <Morrissey> ardchoille, thanks ... do you know the reason?
[12:55] <ardchoille> Morrissey: kde-look.org, gnome-look.org, xfce-look.org are all of the same owner
[12:55] <ardchoille> Morrissey: No, I, but I hope they come back up soon.. I need some stuff.
[12:56] <Morrissey> same here
[12:56] <soundray> !shipit | Boknoy
[12:56] <ubotu> Boknoy: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[12:56] <ardchoille> steel_lady: Ouch!
[12:56] <ucordes> soundray: vga mode i need is one with the res 1280x800 which i unfortunately i can't find in the guide you handed out. any idea where i could find this?
[12:56] <ucordes> -i
[12:56] <MarcoPau> is there any way to enable audio mixing?
[12:57] <MarcoPau> or sharing... dunno the proper name
[12:57] <soundray> ucordes: no, I don't think that's a vesa mode.
[12:57] <occasus> MarcoPau: AOSS?
[12:57] <steel_lady> ardchiolle, is there any hope??? is it the mouse problem or software?
[12:57] <jrib> MarcoPau: playing more than one sound at once?  That should work by default, but some apps (the ones that use oss) will hog the sound card
[12:57] <ucordes> soundray: any way to list those vesa modes?
[12:58] <soundray> ucordes: at boot, if you enter 'vga=scan'
[12:58] <ardchoille> steel_lady: If you have another mouse, you can switch them and see. I don't know.
[12:58] <MarcoPau> the thing that annoies me the most is flash player. that'll keep the audio device busy even if shut
[12:58] <Morrissey> btw, does anyone have a problem with the latest radeon/fglrx drivers wich was updated through repos? I just get a blank screen
[12:58] <soundray> ucordes: I would recommend 1024x768@64k for your screen, ie. vga=0x317
[12:58] <occasus> MarcoPau: one thing i tried was AOSS, and set that as my default device, alsa then handles the mixing
[12:59] <ucordes> soundray: the point is, that with the standard settings my X freezes when i try to logout, shutdown, reboot or change to tty mode
[12:59] <soundray> Morrissey: check that you have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[12:59] <Morrissey> thanks soundray
[01:00] <steel_lady> it's the mouse :-(
[01:00] <MarcoPau> occasus: where do I have to set it?
[01:00] <jrib> MarcoPau: if you use flash9 it will use alsa
[01:00] <soundray> ucordes: I had the same problem with an older kernel. vga=0x317 fixed it (this was on a 1400x1050 screen)
[01:01] <occasus> MarcoPau: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=44155#44155
[01:01] <jrib> !flash9 | MarcoPau
[01:01] <ubotu> MarcoPau: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:01] <ucordes> soundray: ah that sounds good then. i'll give it a try. thanks for your help so far
[01:01] <soundray> ucordes: is this ATI?
[01:01] <ucordes> yepp
[01:01] <MarcoPau> !flash
[01:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:01] <ucordes> soundray: x700 mobility
[01:01] <soundray> ucordes: fglrx or ati driver?
[01:01] <okias> Hi i need help: i have sda1(2GB) and sda5(ntfs rw, 220GB) i need make link from /home(sda1) to /media/data/home(sda5). thanks(sry my english is bad)
[01:01] <sh4rm4> how can I enable WEP on my eth1 ?
[01:02] <ucordes> soundray: fglrx
[01:02] <ucordes> no problems with ati
[01:03] <soundray> ucordes: interesting, on my present machine I had the same with ati, but not fglrx (have since disabled the integrated video and bought an nvidia card ;)
[01:03] <Morrissey> okias, you could make a symlink ... ln -s
[01:04] <MattJ> unop: Still here?
[01:04] <unop> MattJ,  yep
[01:04] <MattJ> This PC is a dual-boot with Windows
[01:04] <MattJ> Guess what? Windows bluescreens on startup :)
[01:05] <unop> MattJ, ouch, what does it say?
[01:05] <soundray> okias: it's a bad idea to store /home data on an NTFS-formatted partition
[01:05] <MattJ> DRIVER_IRQL_LESS_OR_NOT_EQUAL or something like that
[01:05] <okias> i know, but exist any tool to convert 220GB ntfs to ext2/3? :-(
[01:06] <soundray> okias: backup, format, restore
[01:06] <MattJ> Also, when I was shutting down Ubuntu to reboot, I noticed a line from startup, it went domething like "Invalid PCI header at <address>, ignoring"
[01:06] <unop> MattJ,  sounsd like the device has died :(
[01:06] <MattJ> I think so too :(
[01:06] <okias> soundray: and: my ntfs partition surviving long time... :-)
[01:06] <unop> sounds*
[01:07] <MattJ> I'll hunt around, see if I can find another, and swap it
[01:07] <MattJ> or maybe swap PCI slots first
[01:07] <okias> soundtray: yes, you can send me any next 250GB hdd? :-D
[01:07] <unop> MattJ, yep, i'd try that -- but it's unlikely to help
[01:07] <yaman> need a tutorial for setting devices drivers ] 
[01:07] <soundray> MattJ: also, check whether your BIOS setup has an option for resetting ESCSD data
[01:08] <unop> okias,  why dont you have a link in your /home folder that points to this NTFS partition?
[01:08] <MattJ> Hmm, I've just been there, didn't see that but I guess it is somewhere
[01:08] <ikonia> yaman: what do you mean setting device drivers ?
[01:08] <soundray> MattJ: not every setup offers it, unfortunately
[01:08] <MattJ> soundray: It does :)
[01:08] <MattJ> Remove the battery
[01:09] <MattJ> lol
[01:09] <unop> okias,  something like this maybe - ln -s /media/data/home ~/ntfs
[01:09] <okias> unop: thx, i try
[01:10] <MattJ> brb (I hope) :)
[01:10] <MattJ> Wish me luck
[01:10] <unop> good luck :)
[01:10] <yaman> ikonia: i do have asus laptop a6r and i can't get the wifi , camera , modem to work on ubuntu and i don't know what should i do .
[01:11] <MarcoPau> !backports
[01:11] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:13] <mjg> Trying to burn an ISO image to cdrom on Ubuntu 6.10. I select the ISO image, then "Write to Disc...' after about 5 seconds the computer reboots. WTF?
[01:13] <conash> hi, there, I am a newbie and need some help
[01:14] <unop> !ask
[01:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <conash> I think that it is not a very big deal but I somehow screwed the update
[01:14] <yaman> ikonia: do you think this could help ??? http://sourceforge.net/projects/most4linux/
[01:14] <inkvizito68sl>    .
[01:14] <inkvizito68sl> .
[01:14] <soundray> !ru
[01:14] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:14] <inkvizito68sl> ?
[01:14] <ikonia> yaman: what do you want to do with that ?
[01:15] <coNP> conash: what is the problem?
[01:15] <conash> I get exceptions.ValueError
[01:15] <inkvizito68sl> peoples help me to install drivers for nvidia 6150 (please on russian)
[01:15] <soundray> mjg: you may have two master drives on the same IDE channel. Check jumper settings
[01:15] <okias> and can i delete link?
[01:15] <yaman> ikonia: i want to get my wifi work first
[01:16] <ikonia> yaman: is your wifi card supported ?
[01:16] <inkvizito68sl> is russia-spekers here??
[01:16] <unop> conash,  where are you seeing this?
[01:16] <unop> inkvizito68sl,  no sorry, they are all in #ubuntu-ru
[01:16] <conash> well I get a popup
[01:17] <conash> in the panel
[01:17] <inkvizito68sl>  /join #ubuntu-ru?
[01:17] <unop> inkvizito68sl,  yes :)
[01:17] <inkvizito68sl> thanks
[01:17] <yaman> ikonia: i don't know it's bulitin  my laptop and its look like nothing wrong but when i start searching for access points it say no access point found
[01:17] <unop> conash,  is this as a result of doing something?
[01:17] <MarcoPau> jrib: I already have flash9
[01:17] <finn> if I do a dist-upgrade to feisty, will I have problems with the nvidia binary drivers?
[01:18] <yaman> ikonia: is there any commands i can try to show you the problem ?
[01:18] <unop> finn,  hopefully not
[01:18] <conash> I tried with Synaptics and it says everythin
[01:18] <conash> is ok
[01:19] <unop> conash,  so this popup has nothing to do with synaptic?
[01:19] <conash> no
[01:19] <sacater> you know how there is a gconf-editor is there one for xfce
[01:20] <unop> conash,  hmm, what causes this error to popup? do you do anything for it to popup? or is it automatic? if so, does it go away? does it come back, etc?
[01:20] <yaman> ikonia: do you have vnc ??
[01:20] <conash> when I hoover with the mouse over the orange square it appears
[01:20] <LeNoube> can someone tell me the name of a graphic tool that executes SFTP for gnome?
[01:20] <ikonia> no
[01:21] <unop> conash,  errm, what orange square is this?
[01:21] <conash> I updated and had to restart, it took pretty much so I shut the computer down manually
[01:21] <unop> LeNoube,  nautilus-connect-server ??
[01:22] <conash> probably this caused the problem
[01:22] <li_> where i can change encoding at X-chat-GNOME ?
[01:22] <LeNoube> unop, thank you that helped alot =) i didnt know that nautilus had it. thanks
[01:22] <coz_> is there an effective way to disable the .recently-used
[01:23] <yaman> ikonia: info.product = 'BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller'  (string)
[01:23] <yaman>   pci.product = 'BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller'  (string)
[01:23] <unop> conash,  hmm, probably .. if you tell me what that orange square corresponds to maybe we could reinstall the application responsible for it
[01:23] <Morrissey> Hi! I have just upgraded my fglrx drivers, and upgraded to the latest beryl from repos (not svn) ... but now I only get a white screen, I can rotate the cube and all, but its all white. I can see the frames of open programs, but my entire screen's white .. any ideas?
[01:24] <unop> yaman,  does ifconfig -a detect this WIC ?
[01:24] <yaman> unop yeah it says this is eth1
[01:24] <conash> I think it is the package manager, when I booted a popup came out from the square saying that updates are ready to install
[01:25] <eMish_> How can I print list of files (a la 'dpkg -L' of the package that's not installed ?
[01:25] <unop> yaman,  does eth1 have an IPAddress now?
[01:25] <yaman> no
[01:25] <conash> so I clicked it, the update begun and then I was told to restart
[01:25] <unop> yaman,  does network-admin recognize the card?
[01:25] <yaman> unop:eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:F2:CD:20:CC
[01:25] <yaman>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:25] <yaman>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:25] <yaman>           TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:25] <yaman>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[01:25] <yaman>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:3696 (3.6 KiB)
[01:25] <yaman>           Interrupt:5 Base address:0xc000
[01:26] <unop> !paste | yaman
[01:26] <ubotu> yaman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <broadcast> :)
[01:26] <MUTU> Hi, how can I change my software source to take from http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com please?
[01:26] <unop> yaman,  i didnt ask for a paste :)
[01:26] <yaman> unop: yeah it can detect
[01:26] <unop> yaman, can you configure it from there?
[01:27] <conash> sorry for buggin in but I had the same problem with my WI-FI card so I used Wifi radar, it worked perfect
[01:27] <yaman> unop: yeah but i can't connect for any ap because it keep searching for like 3 minuts then it gana close like nothing happen
[01:27] <CapRiCoRN^80> hi i just tried to boot ubuntu on sun blade 150 and it boot fine but after Loading Initial ramdisk it gave me error illegal instruction
[01:27] <unop> yaman,  does iwlist eth1 scan  list any networks?
[01:28] <unop> MUTU,  change the ubuntu sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <MUTU> How do I create an APT line for http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com please?
[01:28] <yaman> unop: i don't know this command , but i used  wlassistant and it said no devices found
[01:29] <unop> yaman,  try the command
[01:29] <yaman> unop, it give me this too fast eth1      No scan results
[01:30] <unop> yaman,  from what i can see -- eth1 does not appear to be a WIC
[01:30] <unop> yaman,  are you absolutely sure it is one?
[01:30] <soundray> MUTU: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace the *.archive.* URLs with yours
[01:30] <seravitae> Anyone have any idea why i can ping sites fine, but all HTTP sites will say 'connection refused' instantly at least 29 out of 30 times?
[01:30] <coz_> yaman, what is on that link that you need to have it in the surces list?
[01:31] <unop> seravitae,  can you nslookup hosts at the command line .. e.g. nslookup google.co.jp
[01:31] <yaman> unop: yeah i am sure , it's not only about the wifi the bisoncam and the modem still having problem i don;t know y asus don't have linux support for it's drivers
[01:31] <CapRiCoRN^80> anyone help me ?
[01:31] <seravitae> unop: yup works fine
[01:31] <seravitae> im browsing sites fine
[01:31] <seravitae> it'll be like every 30 minutes for 10 minutes, a few times a day or something.
[01:31] <conash> how about conash?
[01:31] <yaman> coz: what do you mean ?
[01:32] <coz_> CapRiCoRN^80, what is the problem someone will be able to help
[01:32] <seravitae> where i just have to keep refreshing till it goes again.
[01:32] <soundray> CapRiCoRN^80: nobody here seems to know at the moment. Ask again in an hour or so when different people will have logged on.
[01:32] <unop> seravitae,  well, its those 10 minutes of the day that i'm concerned about :)
[01:32] <coz_> yaman, I thught you needed the line for the sources list of that link , sorry if it wasn't you
[01:32] <CapRiCoRN^80> ok
[01:32] <seravitae> unop it just did it again
[01:32] <seravitae> but i can still ping and stuff.
[01:33] <seravitae> its *just* http. irc doesnt get interrupted or anything.
[01:33] <MUTU> thanks guys
[01:33] <soundray> seravitae: are you behind a transparent web proxy?
[01:33] <unop> seravitae, probably a browser issue then, have you tried another browser?
[01:33] <MarcoPau> nothing changes, firefox will keep the sound device busy
[01:34] <seravitae> unop, no the same thing occurs when i go to a term and telnet www.whateversite.com 80
[01:34] <seravitae> it will go connection refused instantly
[01:34] <unop> yaman,  what does iwconfig list .. please !pastebin
[01:34] <okias> sudo ln -s /media/data/home /home /ok, working, and after restart stay?
[01:34] <seravitae> if i do it like 50 times, eventually it connects, then i jump into my browser and it works too.
[01:34] <unop> okias,  yes
[01:34] <okias> great :-) thx unop
[01:35] <yaman> i don't know what pastebin :P
[01:35] <unop> okias,  errrm, that wasnt a smart thing to do tho
[01:35] <unop> !pastebin | yaman
[01:35] <ubotu> yaman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:35] <unop> okias,  what did you link to /home .. ???
[01:36] <unop> okias,  i didnt even give you that command .. bahh
[01:36] <okias> unop: /media/data/home(ntfs-rw) is now /home
[01:37] <soundray> oh dear
[01:37] <unop> okias,  you were told that housing your /home directory on a ntfs partition is not a good thing to do
[01:37] <yaman> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5708/plain/
[01:37] <unop> okias,  and your home folder probably doesnt exist as /media/data/home/$USER
[01:37] <okias> unop: i know...
[01:38] <Flamekebab> Does anyone have experience using TV-out under Edgy, on an nVidia card?
[01:38] <okias> unop: i copy users to new destination
[01:38] <soundray> Flamekebab: no, but I remember where it's documented
[01:38] <unop> yaman,  errm, can you also pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interface please
[01:38] <loca|host> how to not to permit users to do: "sudo passwd root" on a basic ubuntu install ?
[01:38] <Flamekebab> soundray, that'd be handy
[01:38] <MarcoPau> what's alsa-plugins in ubuntu? libasoun2-plugins?
[01:39] <MarcoPau> sound*
[01:39] <soundray> Flamekebab: sec
[01:39] <okias> and after, delete all /home...
[01:39] <yaman> ok one min
[01:39] <Flamekebab> I'm trying to get it to let me use my TV as another monitor, but NOT with twinview (although that seems to work)
[01:39] <okias> *unop:
[01:39] <unop> okias,  and you using ntfs-3g?
[01:39] <loca|host> in other way, how to revoke root password changing to simple users ?
[01:39] <okias> working good... :-)
[01:39] <ardchoille> loca|host: If they're not in sudoers, then they can't use sudo anyway
[01:39] <soundray> Flamekebab: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz
[01:39] <okias> unop: yes :-)
[01:39] <unop> okias,  why don't you just mount /home on /media/data/home directly then?
[01:40] <loca|host> ardchoille, i want them to use sudo for root commands (apt-get, dpkg ...) except changing root's password
[01:40] <soundray> Flamekebab: you want to run a separate X server for the TV?
[01:40] <unop> okias,  you probably will confuse /etc/fstab now if it already has an entry for /home as /home is now a link and not a directory
[01:40] <yaman> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5711/plain/
[01:41] <Flamekebab> soundray, pretty much
[01:41] <Flamekebab> I want to have my desktop as normal
[01:41] <Flamekebab> but also be able to view videos on my TV
[01:41] <okias> unop: i have hdd sda5 on only /media/data home is folder...
[01:41] <MattJ> woot, it works :D
[01:41] <ardchoille> loca|host: Why don't you want them chaning that? If they have sudo rights, they can do "sudo rm -rf /" if they wanted, and they don't need to log in to do that.
[01:41] <soundray> Flamekebab: try Appendix H then
[01:42] <MattJ> I just switched it to another PCI slot
[01:42] <Flamekebab> soundray, I'll take a look
[01:42] <unop> okias,  in that case, you dont need /home linking to /media/data/home yet again .. remove the link and remake the directory -- sudo sh -c "rm /home; mkdir /home"
[01:42] <unop> MattJ,  nice :d :)
[01:43] <unop> yaman,  is yamo a valid ESSID?
[01:43] <darkstar> How can I install system-wide available themes for gnome?
[01:43] <loca|host> ardchoille, :] 
[01:43] <unop> yaman,  in otherwords, is "yamo" the name of your wireless network as set on the router?
[01:43] <ardchoille> darkstar: unpack the theme into /usr/share/themes if it's a gtk2 or metacity theme.
[01:43] <okias> unop: in fstab i can use only devices like /dev/sda5 /media/data, not /media/data/home /home?
[01:44] <yaman> unop: this was my ap name it's ryt
[01:44] <loca|host> ardchoille, ok so, need to grant privilege to apt-get install, wget and dpkg only
[01:44] <darkstar> thanks ardochille.
[01:44] <eike> irc://irc.freenode.net/ruby-lang
[01:45] <eike> arg :)
[01:45] <yaman> unop: now i am not using it but any way i can't  make search for any ap ??? i thought it should give me a list for the wifi aps near me ?? but i can't get any thing
[01:45] <unop> okias,  /home must be a directory if /home is mentioned in /etc/fstab .. right now, it is not a directory, it is a link .. please remove link and make /home as a directory
[01:46] <darkstar> ardochille gnome look would be the source for themes, right?
[01:46] <shinoda_> ?
[01:46] <okias> unop: i dont have /home in fstab... :-)
[01:46] <ardchoille> loca|host: So they can "sudo dpkg -i my_custom_su_with_a_back_door.deb"? I am trying to get you to think about whther or not these folks actually need sudo privs or not. Are they trustworthy?
[01:46] <yaman> unop: b4 3 days i couldn't get the wic activate but after i read a long tutorial i got it activate but the list is empty no connection
[01:46] <Shaffox> i have killed my bars, how can i start them again?
[01:46] <Shaffox> which command do i have to use ?
[01:47] <unop> yaman,  yea, for some reason tho, it says your Access point is invalid ... that doesnt sound good
[01:47] <ardchoille> loca|host: BTW, you're talking to a security zealot, lol
[01:47] <loca|host> :D
[01:48] <unop> okias,  /home as a link is not safe, especially if the target name changes -- please make /home in /etc/fstab :)
[01:49] <okias> unop: you can give me line?
[01:49] <Shaffox> how can i have my bars back ?
[01:49] <fiberchunks> so following tseliots blog instructions, the only available nvidia driver for me is 7174? Seems odd, or am I missing something
[01:49] <battlesquid> my ubuntu 6.10 server (not installed using server option) keeps falling in and out of connection. what can i do to diagnose/fix the problem?
[01:49] <okias> unop: in fstab: /dev/sda5/home /home ntfs-3g ?
[01:50] <MattJ> Shaffox: I don't know, is it maybe gnome-panel?
[01:50] <Shaffox> i use gnome yes
[01:51] <battlesquid> the problem occurs while being logged in to the server using ssh from forwarded port 22 from the router..
[01:51] <Shaffox> i mean the bars with system, administration on
[01:51] <valehru> hey guys, how can I check if IPV6 is completely turned off?
[01:52] <Pici> Shaffox: I think the applet is called main menu, with an ubuntu icon
[01:52] <Dave> Hi All,  What I want to do is have two hard drives on my pc, one for windows and the other for ubuntu.  I plug in the second hard drive which is from an old PC and when booting the pc up with both in, it say please insert recovery disk (or soemthing along them lines).  I assume this means it is reading the hard drive i have just put it (from the old computer since there is nothing on it). ...
[01:52] <Dave> ...but it doesn't give me any options for it to boot using the hard drive which can standard with the pc with windows on.  i was wondering if i insert the ubunutu disk it won't damage my windows install?
[01:52] <valehru> as in is there a way of testing if IPV6 Is turned off?
[01:52] <ardchoille> valehru: ip a | grep inet6  <-- if that returns nothing, then ipv6 is diabled.
[01:53] <valehru> ardchoille, thanks....is that an Irish name ya have there?
[01:53] <frogzoo> !ipv6 | valehru
[01:53] <ubotu> valehru: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:53] <ucordes> anybody will see soundray today?
[01:53] <ardchoille> valehru: Close, it's Scottish Gaelic "Ard Choille".
[01:53] <valehru> frogzoo, have it disabled, just wanted to make sure...
[01:53] <mianos> re
[01:54] <valehru> ardchoille, thought so....
[01:54] <ardchoille> valehru: :)
[01:54] <mianos> hey guys, i'm running feisty, today apt-get upgrades my kernel and now my bcm4306 based wifi doesnt work anymore
[01:54] <MattJ> battlesquid: Try using ssh with the -o TCPKeepAlive option
[01:54] <mianos> [  623.444000]  bcm43xx: YOUR FIRMWARE IS TOO OLD. Firmware from binary drivers older than version 4.x is unsupported. You must upgrade your firmware files.
[01:55] <mianos> but where can i get an updated firmware file?
[01:55] <battlesquid> MattJ, on the client side upon connecting?
[01:55] <MattJ> Yes
[01:55] <ucordes> mianos: erm there is a list with drivers in the manpage i fink
[01:55] <Dave> can anyone assist me in setting ubuntu up on a second hard drive in the pc so i still have my windows one working so i have two options when booting my pc :- windows or ubuntu?  are there any documents or sites about this?
[01:56] <ardchoille> ucordes: You "fink"?
[01:56] <mianos> the driver works ucordes
[01:56] <mianos> but it needs a newer firmware
[01:56] <mianos> the package bcm43xx-firmware is installed
[01:56] <MattJ> battlesquid: on the other hand, I don't know
[01:56] <MattJ> battlesquid: man ssh_config says it is on by default already
[01:56] <someone> help pls I have a ntfs windows partition and I need some dates from it
[01:56] <ucordes> mianos: sorry i meant there is a list of firmwares
[01:57] <mianos> hm
[01:57] <ucordes> mianos: man bcm43xx-firmware ?
[01:57] <battlesquid> MattJ, one would assume that, i agree. also it never was neccasary before
[01:57] <MattJ> battlesquid: Look at ServerAliveInterval instead
[01:57] <MattJ> battlesquid: I'm only working on the assumption that it is the router dropping an idle connection
[01:57] <someone> can someone help me ?
[01:57] <saelynh>  /hellp
[01:57] <someone> pls:)
[01:57] <MattJ> battlesquid: Do you think it is?
[01:58] <MattJ> someone: What do you mean, you need dates?
[01:58] <Capricorn^800> anyone there who has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[01:58] <saelynh> sry, I just make a test under irssi :X
[01:58] <battlesquid> MattJ, i don't know, it's hard for me to say when i don't know how to diagnose the problem..
[01:58] <someone> i want to mount ntfs partition
[01:59] <someone> Mattj: I want to mount a ntfs partition in Ubuntu
[01:59] <Anti-Tedd> someone, it should already be mounted
[01:59] <Anti-Tedd> Shouldn't it?
[01:59] <MattJ> someone: Look in /media
[01:59] <Anti-Tedd> I mean, ubuntu has always detected and automounted my other partitions.
[02:00] <battlesquid> MattJ, but no, i don't think that's the case. i haven't experienced this before and i have been working on the server at least for 15 minutes without any connection problems
[02:00] <Anti-Tedd> And it has NTFS support now, since like august
[02:00] <MattJ> Hmm
[02:00] <someone> Mattj: no ... it`s not mounted ...
[02:01] <MattJ> !ntfs | someone
[02:01] <ubotu> someone: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:01] <eamo> gnucash upgrade to 2.*?
[02:04] <paul_world10> %C8
[02:04] <paul_world10> %C0
[02:05] <whatspy> I'd like to disable ctrl-alt-delete in console mode... I did google it but, strangely, I don't find the so-called /etc/inittab where the ctrl-alt-del behaviour is said to be set...
[02:05] <crolle17> can anybody give me a link, from where i can download the packages for creating a offline package installation cd?
[02:06] <crolle17> i mean i repository for nearly all packages
[02:06] <battlesquid> MattJ, i'm working on some files on the server and it seems that the problem occurs when i access the disk, "ls -l" and :w in vim causes unresponsiveness - both are disk operations... what happens is the caret freezes and keyboard becomes unresponsive for like 30 secs. so the connection might as well be fine, hard to tell.
[02:06] <BugMaker> anybody know what is rusian ununtu-chanel?
[02:07] <MattJ> !ru | BugMaker
[02:07] <ubotu> BugMaker:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:07] <crolle17> i'm upset in downloading all packages every time i install ubuntu. pleas egive me a repository link for downloading
[02:08] <MattJ> battlesquid: I don't know :/
[02:08] <GMWeezel> How can I rename my computer?
[02:08] <battlesquid> thanks anyway
[02:08] <Paddy_EIRE> guys trying to fiqure out my friends weird radio streaming problem in ubuntu edgy which otherwise works in his windows install.. after about 1 and 1/2 to 2 mins of play the stream just stops
[02:09] <Paddy_EIRE> works fine in win and the connection is 1.1mb
[02:09] <Capricorn^800> anyone there who has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[02:09] <Pici> crolle17: I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for, but http://packages.ubuntu.com has all the packages in a place where you can download them
[02:09] <tomix> im trying to add a 3rd party repos using synaptic but when i got to settings > repositories > it brings up a window called software prefernces and there is no 3rd party tab infact it not even the right window according to the guide I have read. Any ideas?
[02:10] <frogzoo> GMWeezel: change /etc/hostname & update /etc/hosts
[02:10] <crolle17> Pici ahh, it seems to be the right url... ;)
[02:10] <newbie001> hello, does anyone had any problems printing with an hp 1022?
[02:10] <GMWeezel> frogzoo: thanks.
[02:11] <tarin> hello.
[02:12] <tarin> hello?
[02:12] <frogzoo> tarin:
[02:12] <tarin> hi there
[02:12] <tarin> I'm glad someone is still up
[02:12] <tarin> I was wondering if someone could help me with a few questions
[02:13] <sk2> .
[02:13] <sk2> If I add an entry to  /usr/share/xsessions/, it doesn't show up in the GDM menu when I log out. Is there somewhere I am going wrong?
[02:13] <pawan> hi
[02:14] <pawan> can broadband be accesed using ubuntu livecd
[02:14] <Tomcat_> pawan: Yes.
[02:14] <pawan> how
[02:14] <mwe> someone was asking why /etc/inittab is missing in edgy. It was replaced by /etc/event.d/ when the new 'upstart' package was introduced, I believe.
[02:14] <newbie001> how can I reset the printer configuration to the installation default?
[02:14] <sk2> pawan what form of broadband?
[02:14] <pawan> adsl
[02:15] <Capricorn^800> ...
[02:15] <pawan> DSL
[02:16] <mwe> pawan: If your card is supported it should work out of the box I think
[02:16] <tarin> does the 6.06 version of ubuntu have kde initially or would i have to add it later?
[02:16] <sk2> tarin... kubuntu?
[02:16] <mwe> pawan: asuming DHCP
[02:16] <catalytic> hi all
[02:16] <pawan> I HAVE BUITL IN LAN CARD
[02:16] <pawan> BUILT
[02:16] <catalytic> how come whenever i use unzip -d it never retains flie permissions?
[02:16] <tarin> no, i just downloaded ubuntu 6.06
[02:16] <pawan> INTEL MOTHERBOARD
[02:16] <Pici> !caps
[02:16] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:17] <sk2> pawan how about trying it? livecd should do it all automatically...
[02:17] <catalytic> i have tried -K and -X
[02:17] <pawan> how to create the new connection
[02:18] <sk2> pawan have you even tried browsing?
[02:18] <tarin> can i dual boot ubuntu in windows?
[02:18] <catalytic> yes tarin
[02:18] <vanlinx> wats the best PCI wireless card to use with edgy?
[02:18] <pawan> no
[02:18] <catalytic> read up on GRUB
[02:18] <tarin> awesome
[02:18] <tarin> me?
[02:18] <sk2> pawan try it first?
[02:18] <catalytic> yes you
[02:18] <pawan> how
[02:18] <tarin> ah
[02:18] <BugMaker> hi all. i have a problem with resolution. LCD monitor supports 1280*1024 but ubuntu set it to 1024*768 only. I was add to file xorg.conf new resolution (1280*1024) it not take effect...
[02:18] <stylus> pawan, boot off the livecd
[02:18] <sk2> tarin, by default it should setup dual boot
[02:18] <mwe> pawan: open the browser
[02:18] <pawan> ok
[02:18] <sk2> pawan what have you done?
[02:19] <tarin> so i can install it without overwriting windows?
[02:19] <catalytic> eys
[02:19] <catalytic> yes
[02:19] <pawan> but it is not getting connected to the net
[02:19] <tarin> it does it automaticly?
[02:19] <catalytic> as long as you have antoher partitoin
[02:19] <tarin> ok
[02:19] <catalytic> partition
[02:19] <sk2> tarin: yes, just make sure with the partition manager that you don't nuke your windows partitions and you will be fine
[02:19] <stylus> tarin, you may need to resize your windows partition to create space
[02:19] <paul_world10> :}
[02:19] <tarin> i dont follow
[02:20] <finalbeta> Take backups, resizing , splitting partitions ain't very safe, especially with partitionmagic
[02:20] <tarin> you mean clear some space
[02:20] <eric__> After deleting the original user account, I created a new account and then added it to the "root" group - now when I start the computer, I get a terminal login, not GDM - how do I fix this?
[02:20] <sk2> you need to create another "drive" like in windows to put linux on
[02:20] <Capricorn^800> ...
[02:20] <eric__> I can't sudo, either. :/
[02:20] <mwe> tarin: as long as you don't explicitly delete the windows partition it will stay
[02:20] <sk2> eric__: you can only sudo if you're in the sudoers group
[02:20] <misterfamous> how do I change directories in the terminal and which directory is the desktop? I need to run the Flash installer
[02:20] <BugMaker> can somebody help me?
[02:20] <tarin> oh yeah, no doubt
[02:21] <mwe> !helpme | BugMaker
[02:21] <ubotu> BugMaker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:21] <sk2> BugMaker: of course not. gee
[02:21] <catalytic> how can i extract from zip and retain file permissions?
[02:21] <eric__> misterfamous, just use apt-get to install flash
[02:21] <BugMaker> i have a problem with resolution. LCD monitor supports 1280*1024 but ubuntu set it to 1024*768 only. I was add to file xorg.conf new resolution (1280*1024) it not take effect...
[02:21] <jussi01> BUgMaker: Whats your problem?
[02:21] <sk2> I guess my question re GDM sessions is a bit too advanced :/
[02:21] <tarin> so... 1. create new partition 2. install ubuntu 3.???? 4.PROFIT
[02:21] <mwe> catalytic: use sudo
[02:21] <catalytic> i did, doesnt keep them
[02:22] <catalytic> i tried the -K and -X switches
[02:22] <misterfamous> ooh yeah, better idea - thanks eric__
[02:22] <catalytic> but i end up havnig to go in and manually chmod all the dir's and files
[02:22] <mwe> catalytic: odd.
[02:22] <jussi01> BugMaker: what video card do you have?
[02:22] <mwe> catalytic: zip or gzip?
[02:22] <catalytic> zip
[02:22] <mwe> hmm
[02:22] <eric__> misterfamous, to answer your question "cd" changes directories, "~" is your home folder ( /home/<username> ) - and "~/Desktop" is your desktop ( /home/<username>/Desktop )
[02:22] <catalytic> its a template file for phpbb2
[02:22] <BugMaker> GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)
[02:23] <tarin> but i wont be able to use beryl if i run livedisk right?
[02:23] <eric__> misterfamous, "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[02:23] <misterfamous> thanks eric
[02:23] <tarin> i would have to install it?
[02:23] <tarin> as a whole
[02:23] <eric__> I think you might need some repositories enabled, not sure.
[02:23] <mwe> catalytic: does zip support unix users and groups and perms?
[02:23] <BugMaker> jussi01: GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)
[02:23] <LjL> tarin: i think so. it might be possible to get beryl running on the live cd... but i guess it's more complicated than it's worth. perhaps try the Kororaa live cd if you want to test beryl from a CD?
[02:24] <cjsoftuk> Problem: emerald reports: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[02:24] <cjsoftuk> hwo do I solve that
[02:24] <jussi01> try running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:24] <catalytic> well it works on other os's just upping the zip file to the server
[02:24] <stylus> livedisk == livecd? Then nope..
[02:24] <stylus> You'd prolly need to install ubuntu before you could get beryl up and running properly.
[02:24] <eric__> After deleting the original user account, I created a new account and then added it to the "root" group - now when I start the computer, I get a terminal login, not GDM - how do I fix this?
[02:24] <catalytic> not sure
[02:24] <tarin> thanks ljl. I'm just not down with downloading another iso right now
[02:24] <catalytic> is there a phpbb2 # on freenode?
[02:24] <tarin> i might mess around with what i got right now
[02:24] <eric__> Beryl will run on a LiveCD - but it won't be permanent, obviously.
[02:24] <LjL> eric__, accounts that must have administrative rights should be added to group "admin", *not* to group "root"
[02:25] <LjL> !adduser > eric__    (eric__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:25] <eric__> catalytic, #phpbb
[02:25] <mwe> catalytic: I don't think it does. I'm not really into the details of phpBB but maybe it just works (TM)
[02:25] <CapRiCoRN^80> any one there how has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[02:25] <eric__> LjL, thanks - rebooting into recovery console to fix that
[02:25] <eric__> how do I remove a user from a group?
[02:25] <LjL> eric__: deluser <user> <group>. anyway i'd also have a look manually at /etc/passwd and /etc/group, and make sure there's not something very messed up
[02:26] <tarin> so... let me ask a really dumb question... after inserting the cd, i would select "start or install ubuntu" and then it should install right?
[02:26] <LjL> eric__: make sure the primary group of your user is the group with the same name as the user, for starters -- and also that root is number 0 both as a user and as a group
[02:26] <jhaig> tarin: It boots up into a live system, from where you can install it.
[02:26] <gusto5> tarin: right
[02:26] <Pici> tarin: No, it would just start the 'Live' portion of the system
[02:26] <LjL> tarin: no, it should *start*. it will install if you click on the icon.
[02:27] <gusto5> assuming you have 6.06 or later.
[02:27] <gusto5> distro version
[02:27] <LjL> which you most definitely should
[02:27] <tarin> yeah... ok see thats the problem
[02:27] <LjL> if you have Breezy, get Dapper instead
[02:27] <gusto5> you have 5.04/5.10?
[02:27] <tarin> i hit start or install ubuntu
[02:27] <Pici> !enter
[02:27] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:27] <LjL> but if it says "Start or install Ubuntu", it means it's at least Dapper, anyway
[02:27] <tarin> and it just loads and loads and loads
[02:28] <stylus> tarin, it takes ages
[02:28] <tarin> and then it stops and kida glitches
[02:28] <LjL> tarin: do you see the CD drive reading, or does it stop at some time?
[02:28] <tarin> no it keeps reading
[02:28] <zyth> well, no binary drivers in feisty apparently.
[02:28] <LjL> tarin: either try another CD drive, or try the alternate CD... it tends to be more reliable, i think
[02:28] <Pici> tarin: What are your system specs, CPU/RAM?
[02:28] <LjL> zyth: that is, there will be no binary drivers by default?
[02:29] <zyth> LjL, yep
[02:29] <stylus> tarin, the same thing happened to me. Make some tea and return and everything should have loaded. :-)
[02:29] <stylus> The install itself wasn't slow though./
[02:29] <gusto5> LOL
[02:29] <gusto5> sweeeetttt
[02:29] <tarin> 1gig of ram/ 3Ghz
[02:29] <tarin> that should b good right?
[02:29] <tarin> i read it requires 129mb
[02:29] <LjL> tarin, yes - i suspect it's a problem with the CD drive, from your description of the very long loading
[02:30] <stylus> gusto5?
[02:30] <Pici> tarin: Yes, that 'should' be fine, but then again the LiveCD doesnt always work with all systems
[02:30] <tarin> what about the glitching?
[02:30] <LjL> tarin, well no, the live CD will hardly work with 128megs to be honest. anyway, 1 gig is quite fine
[02:30] <tarin> thanks. i thought so
[02:30] <LjL> tarin: well, explain "glitching"
[02:30] <VincentMX> hi
[02:30] <tarin> ok
[02:30] <gusto5> stylus: the thought of tea is satisfying in the morning, nothing else.
[02:30] <stylus> Ah, I see. *rubs his own tummy*
[02:31] <VincentMX> hi
[02:31] <tarin> it looks like a bunch of lines (green, bluish, etc) and when i use the arrow keys and enter and stuff, it kinda changes and moves an stuff
[02:31] <gusto5> =) sorry, its 8 in the morning.
[02:31] <BugMaker> jussi01: done. reboot?
[02:31] <Paddy_EIRE> i am currently havin a cup meself
[02:31] <tarin> all the while the splash screen os still there
[02:31] <eric__> LjL, what else might need to be done?
[02:31] <LjL> eric__: i assume this means you had no luck?
[02:31] <jussi01> Bugmaker: ctrl alt backspace should do it - see you in a minute
[02:32] <eric__> LjL, no I'm at the recovery console
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know anything about sound daemons and streaming radio
[02:32] <eric__> Just wondering if there's anything else that needs to be done before I reboot
[02:32] <jussi01> !helpme | Paddy_EIRE
[02:32] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:32] <LjL> eric__: well, maybe... but it'll probably occur to me just after you've rebooted ;) what does "group yourusername" says anyway?
[02:33] <LjL> eric__: sorry, that's "group*s*"
[02:33] <eric__> Bah - rebooted.  Brought me back to tty1
[02:33] <eric__> Logging in, unable to cd to /home/eric
[02:34] <zyth> No more ubuntu for powerpc
[02:34] <eric__> So they say.
[02:34] <eric__> Not enough funding.
[02:34] <eric__> And here I thought they were increasing PS3 support?
[02:34] <whatspy> mwe: long ago in the buffer, you solved my problem, thank you
[02:34] <BugMaker> jussi01: Thank you! It's work :)
[02:35] <Trini_Man> hi everyone
[02:35] <valehru> for the battery, what would be the default name in ubuntu?  bat0?
[02:35] <frogzoo> valehru: it varies
[02:35] <zyth> "However, it isn't all gloom and doom for PowerPC users. A team has been formed to work on the PowerPC, and if community support for the port is strong enough, there's no reason Ubuntu won't continue to be perfectly usable for PowerPC owners, even in its "unofficial" status."
[02:35] <newbie001> is anyone aware of this error? : cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[02:35] <CrossFire> for a WoW Privat server i have to copy files to the WoW-Directory, were is it??? I've installed WoW with Wine
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> while my friend is listening to streaming radio stations they stop playing after 1 - 2 mins?  This works perfectly in windows and the connection is 1.1mb
[02:35] <Trini_Man> how do i start ubuntu in verbose mode ?
[02:35] <newbie001> on the error log of cups
[02:35] <variant> zyth: where did you hear that ubuntu was not supporting ppc any more?
[02:35] <GarySaved> I just re-installed Ubuntu64.  There used to be a sound option to enable the sound server.  I have no sounds.  How do I enable it?
[02:35] <CrossFire> for a WoW Privat server i have to copy files to the WoW-Directory, were is it??? I've installed WoW with Wine
[02:36] <Trini_Man>  how do i start ubuntu 6.10 in verbose mode ?
[02:36] <valehru> frogzoo, how can i find out what it could be?
[02:36] <zyth> variant, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/13/1943218
[02:36] <zyth> !patience | CrossFire
[02:36] <ubotu> CrossFire: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:36] <Trini_Man>  how do i start ubuntu 6.10 in verbose mode ?
[02:36] <eric__> !sli
[02:36] <Pici> Trini_Man: Remove 'quiet' from the appropriate kernel line /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <eric__> !crossfire
[02:36] <valehru> !battery
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> CrossFire, try home/you/.wine/drive_c/
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about battery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <eric__> :/
[02:37] <frogzoo> valehru: ls /proc/acpi/battery/ ?
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> while my friend is listening to streaming radio stations they stop playing after 1 - 2 mins?  This works perfectly in windows and the connection is 1.1mb
[02:37] <craigbass1976> I'm not in front of an ubuntu box right now, but this is probably a general linux question anyway...  I have a folder /invoices owned by the invoices user and invoices group.  It is drwxrwx---.  When bob (in the invoices group) makes a file there, joe (also in the invoices group) can't write to it unless I do another chmod -R 770.  How do I fix this?
[02:37] <craigbass1976> something to do wiht umask?
[02:38] <jussi01> BugMaker: Fantastic to hear no problems!!
[02:38] <CrossFire> Paddy_EIRE, Big big thx, it works
[02:38] <zyth> craigbass1976, chown -R invoices:invoices /invoices
[02:38] <CrossFire> Paddy_EIRE, Big big thx, it works
[02:38] <CrossFire> sry
[02:39] <monzie> hi all
[02:39] <monzie> i am unable to get vmware-player from the repos to work
[02:39] <craigbass1976> zyth, I do that, but it only works for files that are currently in /invoices, not new ones put there by one user or another.
[02:39] <variant> zyth: thanks, I am more pleased to see that proprietry graphics drivers are not to be included in the next release
[02:39] <eric__> Logging in, unable to cd to /home/eric - how can I solve this?
[02:40] <eric__> variant, it would be nice to see fully functional open source drivers. :/
[02:40] <monzie> help please!
[02:40] <monzie> i did an apt-get install vmware-player
[02:40] <monzie> but the config script fails!
[02:40] <zyth> variant, I'm ambivalent, but installing them isn't hard so it's no skin off my nose :)
[02:40] <craigbass1976> eric__, do you own /home/eric?
[02:40] <zyth> I'd prefer if the open source drivers were useful, though
[02:40] <Paddy_EIRE> CrossFire, nice one :)
[02:40] <zyth> unfortunately, they're not.
[02:41] <zyth> craigbass1976, hm
[02:41] <zyth> monzie, try virtualbox.  Unless you really need to run a vmware image.
[02:41] <wmealing_> would anyone be so kind to tell me if ubuntu has the logo programming language available ?
[02:42] <wmealing_> apt-cache search logo , or something to that effect.
[02:42] <craigbass1976> zyth, hmm is right.  I was hmmm-ing at 1:30 this morning trying to set a customer's box
[02:42] <monzie> zyth: i really need to run a virtual image'
[02:42] <zyth>  kturtle - educational Logo programming environment
[02:42] <zyth> right there
[02:43] <monzie> could some one please tell me why the default ubuntu installation is failing?
[02:43] <craigbass1976> Is kturtle like the old apple logo?
[02:43] <variant> zyth: yes, the nouveau driver is making good steady progres.. one of the most effecient irc channels I ahve seen :)
[02:43] <zyth> wmealing_, that'd be a yes.
[02:44] <zyth> variant, I tried the radeon driver... utter crap fps
[02:45] <Pici> craigbass1976: Yes, it is
[02:45] <monzie> help! polease
[02:45] <frogzoo> !helpme | monzie
[02:45] <ubotu> monzie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:46] <variant> zyth: which card?
[02:46] <zyth> variant, 9600
[02:46] <monzie> i need to install vmware-player by hand
[02:46] <zyth> craigbass1976, try chmod g+w /invoices
[02:46] <GarySaved> Does anyone know how I enable a sound server for Ubuntu64 ?
[02:46] <frogzoo> monzie: from the install menu, hit f6 + give grub the option 'acpi=off'
[02:46] <monzie> unfortunately it si on uninstalling due to dpkg returning an error codde
[02:46] <variant> zyth: I have a radeon 7000 igp with the free software driivers. I get 4 or 5 more fps on ubuntu than i do on windows with the same game and the best possible driver on windows
[02:46] <aalhamad> hi all... i want to know how to connect a satellite receiver to my PC.. and make my pc act as a decoder?
[02:47] <monzie> frogzoo: i need to somehow reinstall vmware-player first
[02:47] <variant> zyth: yes, the 9600 works with the radeon driver but is non optimised.. best support can be had from 9250
[02:47] <aalhamad> plz help me out.. i know its not an easy task to do.. but if you can support me with references .. thanks
[02:47] <zyth> variant, ahh, I see I see.
[02:47] <frogzoo> monzie: oh it's the vware install that's failing?
[02:47] <monzie> frogzoo: yes!
[02:47] <tarin> alright thanks for the help guys. i'll see if i can get it working
[02:48] <frogzoo> monzie: on edgy?
[02:48] <monzie> it is actually not uninstalling properly
[02:48] <variant> aalhamad: here is a point in the right direction: http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=BDK&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=linux+satellite+decoder&spell=1
[02:48] <monzie> frogzoo: yes
[02:48] <zyth> variant, I wanted it to work, since the oss driver supports aiglx
[02:48] <frogzoo> monzie: sudo /etc/init.d/vmware stop  ; then try uninstalling
[02:48] <monzie> frogzoo: i just want to zap the thing of my system and reinstall
[02:48] <wmealing_> zyth, thanks :)
[02:48] <zyth> wmealing_, np
[02:49] <variant> zyth: yeah, how much effort did you put into the driver? you will probably get better results if you use the cvs version and make some effort to optimise it your self
[02:49] <aalhamad> variant, thanks but the conection does it have to be with a video car?
[02:49] <aalhamad> variant, thanks but the conection does it have to be with a video card?
[02:49] <CapRiCoRN^80> any one there how has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[02:49] <GarySaved> oh, and I am using Edgy
[02:49] <variant> aalhamad: no, a satellite decoder card
[02:49] <zyth> variant, I just used the one that came with Edgy, I wasn't aware I could grab a newer ver.  Never occured to me
[02:49] <zyth> variant, is there a website for the project?
[02:49] <variant> zyth: yeah, allways worth looking into
[02:50] <variant> zyth: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[02:50] <aalhamad> variant, its PCI right? but i can;t link them with a cable?
[02:50] <zyth> variant, thnx
[02:50] <aalhamad> or connet them with a cable..
[02:50] <variant> aalhamad: I have no idea, I am not an expert
[02:50] <aalhamad> ok thaks
[02:51] <variant> zyth: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware#head-2f5098616350345fc8b9d26888cb729d63303cf2
[02:51] <variant> zyth: thats what you want
[02:51] <variant> zyth: where it says "to build latest version"
[02:51] <rylan> hello, this is the third day of me trying to get my sound to work. i would greatly appreciate someone helping me.
[02:52] <variant> rylan: what is the issue exactly? are you the person I tried to help yesterday but you kept making remarks?
[02:53] <rylan> yes i am. and i wasnt trying to make remarks. i was just getting frustrated.
[02:53] <VincentMX> 
[02:53] <VincentMX> oops
[02:53] <VincentMX> sorry
[02:53] <variant> rylan: well man, stay cool and I will help you out :)
[02:53] <monzie> frogzoo: i tried deleting some of the vmware things by hand as well
[02:53] <IdleOne> rylan, have you checked out !sound, made sure nothing is muted in the volume control, set to alsa mixer, made sure everything is plugged in ( speakers )?
[02:53] <monzie> frogzoo: now it wont let me uninstall it!
[02:54] <huXfluX> Does anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank you!
[02:54] <rylan> yep everything is good there.
[02:54] <GarySaved> variant: All I need is to know where I enable the sound server.  The older versions had a section for it under System.  I can not find it in etch.
[02:54] <monzie> how do i make apt-get forget about my previous installation and ask it to install a fresh copy of vmware-player again?
[02:54] <rylan> that much i figured out on my own.
[02:54] <SoulChild> HELP! Firefox does not open if i click any link???
[02:54] <rylan> the problem i think is that my sound card is... chinese
[02:55] <VincentMX> hi
[02:55] <IdleOne> rylan, they all are :)
[02:55] <variant> rylan: please tell me exactly what sound card you have, in a terminal run the following commands: sudo -i, update-pciids && lspci
[02:55] <rylan> well this one is a chinese one made for chinese people
[02:55] <IdleOne> made in china atleast
[02:55] <variant> rylan: then please put the output here: www.rafb.net/paste
[02:55] <rylan> i will do that again.
[02:55] <VincentMX> i've installed the edubuntu desktop, but some parts of the kde edutainment software and such is in english
[02:56] <VincentMX> edubuntu-desktop even
[02:56] <variant> rylan: and if your talking to me please put my nick at the front sot that it highlights me
[02:56] <rylan> variant ok i will
[02:56] <variant> VincentMX: perhaps not all parts have been translated into your language?
[02:56] <MattJ> rylan: To do that, type vari and press tab
[02:56] <MattJ> :)
[02:57] <rylan> thx.
[02:57] <vlt> Hello. What is the right "ifconfig" command to set eth0 to dhcp mode (w/o editing interfaces file)?
[02:57] <VincentMX> variant: can i do this myself, quickly?
[02:57] <variant> vlt: dhclient eth0
[02:57] <IdleOne> MattJ, varitab is what I get :/
[02:57] <variant> VincentMX: do what?
[02:57] <VincentMX> translate
[02:57] <CapRiCoRN^80> any one there how has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[02:57] <chris> hello Ubuntu, anyone else here noticed problems with www.gnome-look.org lately?
[02:58] <VincentMX> it's for an elementary school, they don't know english there
[02:58] <variant> VincentMX: i'm sure the projects would like it if you helpt them translate the software.. it\s a big effort thogh
[02:58] <MattJ> IdleOne: :) The tab key is the button above the caps lock
[02:58] <monzie> help!
[02:58] <MattJ> AT least on my keyboard
[02:58] <vlt> variant: Thank you.
[02:58] <VincentMX> variant: nm then
[02:58] <pic_> heya
[02:58] <IdleOne> MattJ, :P I know hehe was just trying to be funny
[02:58] <monzie> sudo apt-get --reinstall vmware-player does not work
[02:58] <variant> VincentMX: yw
[02:58] <MattJ> IdleOne: Thank goodness :)
[02:58] <monzie> can someone please tell me how to install it?
[02:58] <variant> monzie: apt-get isntall --reisntall
[02:58] <vlt> What is the best way to upgrade breezy to edgy? Do I have to update to dapper first?
[02:58] <IdleOne> vlt yes'
[02:58] <variant> vlt: yes, you have to go one to the next
[02:59] <CheshireViking> chris, Just tried gnome-look.org for you, I've got an unable to connect message
[02:59] <IdleOne> vlt, or get a edgy cd and do a fresh install
[02:59] <monzie> variant: i have this package which is corrupted
[02:59] <monzie> i just want apt-get to overwrite everything
[02:59] <rylan> variant, ok i did what you asked, i got the information in the terminal its telling me i have an "intel corporation 82801g (Ich7 family) High definition audio controller (rev 01)
[02:59] <l3m> is there a way to get a list of all the installed packages on a system and use it to install all these packages on a second one? as automated as possible?
[02:59] <chris> CheshireViking: was afraid of that, has been unavailable for over a day now
[02:59] <chris> CheshireViking: ty :)
[02:59] <variant> rylan: cool, thats fairly standard
[02:59] <monzie> variant: how do i make it bejhave as if the previous installation never existed?
[02:59] <CheshireViking> chris, no prob
[03:00] <variant> rylan: please install alsamixer-gui
[03:00] <monzie> variant: i dont want the postinstall script to run
[03:00] <variant> rylan: with apt-get
[03:00] <mzuverink> Can you set up fetchmail to get your mail and then pipe it through spamassassin, and then place it in a maildir or mbox in your home dir so you can check it with thunderbird?
[03:00] <SoulChild> HELP! Firefox does not open if i click any link???
[03:00] <variant> monzie: sorry, don't know off the top of my head
[03:00] <vlt> IdleOne: What about my (ocnfig) data in /home? Can I just copy it? Will KDE (running kubuntu) work then?
[03:00] <rylan> variant, can you dumb that down a touch for me. 3rd day with linux here
[03:00] <vlt> s/ocfig/config/
[03:00] <variant> rylan: type sudo apt-get install alsamixer-gui
[03:00] <monzie> can someone please help me?
[03:01] <IdleOne> vlt, if you do a fresh install you can do a backup of /home and /etc first and then just replace after installation
[03:01] <vlt> IdleOne: thx
[03:01] <huXfluX> Does anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank you!
[03:02] <variant> vlt: for future reference it is very strongly advisable to have /home on a seperate partition as you then dont need to format that partition if you reinstall
[03:02] <rylan> variant,  apt-get couldnt find it
[03:02] <vlt> variant: /home actually is on a separate partition ;-)
[03:02] <IdleOne> !universe | rylan
[03:02] <cma> mzuverink: I don't think you can with Thunderbird
[03:02] <ubotu> rylan: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:02] <variant> rylan: sorry, thats apt-get install alsamixergui
[03:03] <variant> rylan: there is no -
[03:03] <IdleOne> vlt, than your good to go
[03:03] <IdleOne> vlt just make sure you dont format that partition :)
[03:03] <rylan> variant, thanks
[03:03] <variant> vlt: good stuff
[03:03] <rylan> ill let you know how it works
[03:03] <vlt> variant, IdleOne: My question was rather related to the different program versions and the injection of old config file formats to the newer ones ...
[03:03] <variant> rylan: cool
[03:03] <rylan> variant, will i need a restart?
[03:04] <variant> rylan: no
[03:04] <variant> rylan: just let me know when it has finished installing
[03:04] <mzuverink> cma, I know you cant pipe with thunderbird, hence why I want to use fetchmail.  I think itd be some kind of fetchmail/procmail recipie, but just looking for verification
[03:04] <IdleOne> vlt, I dont see how the configs could differ so much as to make the apps not usable
[03:04] <variant> vlt: there are very little changes to the home directory, i wouldn't worry about it. you might have to re-enter skype details or somesuch
[03:05] <vlt> IdleOne: I just don't _know_ if they're different
[03:05] <rylan> variant, still nothin
[03:05] <variant> rylan: apt-get install alsamixergui doesn't do anything? did it install it?
[03:06] <IdleOne> vlt, probably not . would not make sensde to change the format of configs from one version to next. we would be continuously having to re-enter that info at every update/ upgrade of a app
[03:06] <festerino> ciao
[03:06] <cma> mzuverink: well I really havn't used TB but from what I have seen it dosn't to want to know about local mail spools etc.
[03:07] <rylan> variant, says it was setting up alsamixergui (o.9.0rc2-1-9) . . .
[03:07] <variant> rylan: ok, start playing a song or anything that makes constant noise (a video or whatever). then at the same time run alsamixergui from the command prompt and unmute all the options and set the sliders to the maximum value
[03:07] <mzuverink> cma, sure it does, what real mail client wouldn, it does spools of all sorts
[03:07] <CheshireViking> variant, just asking a dumb question following from something you just mentioned to rylan, if /home is on a seperate partition and I reinstalled ubuntu & I remount my original /home, would that retain things like email settings, firefox favourites etc?
[03:08] <MattJ> CheshireViking: Yes, I do that
[03:08] <rylan> variant,  so what should i type.
[03:08] <MattJ> CheshireViking: It makes life pretty easy when it comes to installing new releases :)
[03:08] <variant> CheshireViking: yes, absolutly
[03:08] <variant> rylan: as i said:
[03:08] <variant> rylan: ok, start playing a song or anything that makes constant noise (a video or whatever). then at the same time run alsamixergui from the command prompt and unmute all the options and set the sliders to the maximum value
[03:08] <huXfluX> Does anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank you!
[03:08] <vlt> I'm trying to find the min. system requirements for (K)ubuntu. Will it "run" on a 128 MB RAM machine?
[03:09] <variant> CheshireViking: the only thing is that you will have to select the old profile with the firefox profile manager
[03:09] <rylan> variant, the apt-get install alsamixergui?
[03:09] <cma> mzuverink: hmm! I am interested. How do you get read from /var/mail?
[03:09] <variant> vlt: yes, it will run but will be a bit slow
[03:09] <CheshireViking> MattJ & variant, thanks, something I'll have to remember next time i reinstall which maybe very soon if my hard drive is failing & not just got a corruption that fsck can't fix
[03:09] <jhaig> vlt: You will probably need to install it using the 'alternative' CD rather than the live one.
[03:09] <variant> rylan: I can fix it for you myself if your prepared to give me remote access to your computer, it's up to your self of course. I have done it with a few peopel here before quite successfully
[03:10] <rylan> variant, go ahead.
[03:10] <jhaig> My brother installed it with 128Mb, but he couldn't do it from the live CD.
[03:10] <aldur> !bot resolution
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <rylan> variant,  you will have to walk me through how to do that
[03:10] <vlt> jhaig: Yes, thank you.
[03:10] <vlt> I think I'll try the update-breezy-to-dapper-to-edgy way ...
[03:10] <aldur> !bot screensize
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot screensize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <aldur> !
[03:11] <vlt> Do I just have to replace all breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:11] <aldur> sdf
[03:11] <variant> rylan: ok, you will ahve to follow the following steps: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:11] <aldur> !bot screen-resolution
[03:11] <mzuverink> cma, you just choose unix mail spool(movemail) and tell it your box location
[03:11] <rylan> variant, when this is done, if you are ever in shanghai, i am buying you a beer.
[03:11] <variant> rylan: hehe :)
[03:12] <rylan> variant, ok, installed
[03:12] <cma> mzuverink: is that part of that set wizard thing?
[03:12] <mzuverink> cma, yeah
[03:12] <cma> mzuverink: is that part of that setup wizard thing?
[03:12] <variant> rylan: email me your username and password to mr integrity at gmail dot com
[03:12] <variant> rylan: did you get that?
[03:12] <rylan> variant, ok
[03:12] <mzuverink> cma, yeah(x2)
[03:12] <Tseligas> hello
[03:12] <cma> mzuverink: hehe
[03:12] <CapRiCoRN^80> any one there how has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[03:13] <Strong> Hello ppl, how do i know the processes that are using my soundcard ?
[03:13] <chris> can someone refer me to a good place to find tips/info on changing gnome-terminals look.. I am used to using KDE an hate the way gnome terminal looks
[03:13] <mzuverink> cma, too early in the morning to have to answer twice ;)
[03:13] <variant> Strong: fuser
[03:13] <marcin_> witam
[03:13] <rylan> variant, mrintegrity at gmail dot com? or with an _
[03:14] <variant> rylan: there is no _
[03:14] <variant> rylan: all one word
[03:14] <cma> mzuverink: I'll check it out some time. I've only ever used mutt and mail with exim, fetch and co.
[03:14] <rylan> gotit. just making sure
[03:14] <variant> rylan: yep
[03:14] <mzuverink> gotcha
[03:14] <rylan> ok, anything else i have to do from here?
[03:14] <variant> rylan: please note that I am at work.. might be distracted for a couple of minnits here and there
[03:14] <mzuverink> opps, cma, gotcha
[03:14] <variant> rylan: shouldnt be, are you behind a firewall
[03:14] <variant> ?
[03:14] <cma> mzuverink: too late at night :)
[03:15] <rylan> variant, there is a weird chinese router, i dont know how much i can feck with there
[03:15] <variant> rylan: that will probably block my connection.. you can't connect directly?
[03:16] <rylan> nah, shared connection. well perhaps i will have to figure this myself.
[03:16] <rylan> variant, i gotta go.
[03:16] <variant> rylan: np, good luck
[03:16] <rylan> variant, ill be back in 30 min or so
[03:16] <variant> rylan: run alsamixer
[03:16] <variant> klakl;sd
[03:16] <cma> mzuverink: I havn't actually set any of that up on this recent ubuntu install.
[03:16] <mzuverink> cma, I think I might go back to s&c gtk, but mozilla came out with the lightening addon(a calandar like sunbird) whiich integrates nicely, and its not all bloat like evolution, but the spamassassin deal has me by the jewels(family)
[03:18] <mzuverink> cma, currently I am just using gmail to filter spam, their not bad, about 90 %, but that last 10% I would rather not see
[03:18] <cma> mzuverink: Yeah, yahoo for me. Same deal.
[03:19] <l3m> is there a simple howto for changing sysv init scripts to upstart?
[03:20] <cma> mzuverink: I'm actually going to give evolution a look.  Although I feel a bit dubious.
[03:22] <Flamekebab> If I'm using Beryl, is it possible to configure a keyboard shortcut for switching between Beryl and Metacity?
[03:23] <icehammer> help!! i downloaded limewire for linux.. .rpm package..
[03:24] <JohnRobert> argg!
[03:24] <icehammer> and used alien to convert it to .deb..
[03:24] <JohnRobert> Try downloading an ubuntu package
[03:24] <icehammer> there's no ubuntu package..
[03:24] <icehammer> after install.. it retirns a syntax error..
[03:24] <JohnRobert> icehammer:
[03:24] <JohnRobert> The answer, invariably, is that you should be using gtk-gnutella, which allows you to share files on the limewire, morpheus and a few other networks. You can install it using:
[03:24] <JohnRobert> sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:24] <JohnRobert> use google.
[03:24] <JohnRobert> I searched for:
[03:25] <JohnRobert> ubuntu limewire
[03:25] <Flamekebab> icehammer, why not use Frostwire?
[03:25] <JohnRobert> that was the first page.
[03:25] <darweth> Is Limewire any good?
[03:25] <icehammer> i'll be able to use all of limewire, morpheus, and others, all in  one??
[03:25] <JohnRobert> yes.
[03:25] <valehru> hmm...anyone know where I can get a copy of ncurses?
[03:25] <icehammer> cool
[03:25] <icehammer> thanks
[03:25] <Vilhelms> I can't hibernate with Ubuntu. The screen goes black and I guess everything shuts down properly but the computer stays on with the screen flickering every few seconds :(
[03:25] <JohnRobert> do as I say and you'll get what you want
[03:25] <darweth> I've never used Limewire in my life.
[03:25] <variant> darweth: not really.. occasionaly it's not too bad. the best option is news groups
[03:25] <savvas> !dlink
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dlink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <savvas> !d-link
[03:25] <darweth> Well, I am on a billion private BT trackers. :x
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d-link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <savvas> bummer
[03:25] <JohnRobert> Vilhelms: hibernate doesn't work too well on linux...try suspend instead
[03:25] <valehru> !ncurses
[03:26] <variant> darweth: or dc++
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <JohnRobert> !hibernate
[03:26] <Shaffox> !sexy
[03:26] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <IdleOne> !ROUTER | savvas
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <darweth> DC++ seems cool for niche things.
[03:26] <variant> valehru: actualy, hibernate works perfectly on my laptop while suspend does not work at all
[03:26] <savvas> anyolol
[03:26] <Vilhelms> JohnRobert, Doesn't that use up my battery faster than hibernate though? I'm on a laptop
[03:26] <JohnRobert> Vilhelms: only slightly
[03:26] <JohnRobert> I am also on a laptop
[03:26] <Vilhelms> JohnRobert, Alright, thanks :)
[03:26] <l3m> how can i start sshd in 6.10?
[03:26] <Vilhelms> JohnRobert, I guess I will do that from now on
[03:26] <JohnRobert> it turns off all the hardware and just keeps it ticking over
[03:26] <variant> Lurkan: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:27] <Vilhelms> JohnRobert, Ah, I see... whats the difference between Suspend and Hibernate then?
[03:27] <JohnRobert> hibernate saves the computers memory to the hard disk
[03:27] <JohnRobert> and then restores it when you turn it back on
[03:27] <JohnRobert> suspend just turns off screen/hard disk etc
[03:27] <Vilhelms> Oh I see... cool, I guess I'll just use suspend :)
[03:27] <valehru> Is there a ncurses deb packaged for ubuntu?  Apt can't find it at all.
[03:27] <JohnRobert> yeah, just see how long it can be in suspend for...
[03:28] <JohnRobert> you'll probably get about 24 hours out of suspend
[03:28] <JohnRobert> depends really on your laptop
[03:28] <Vilhelms> Well my battery only lasts about half an hour as it is...
[03:28] <tanascar> Newbie here.. got a missing file (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/packet/af_packet.ko), can somewhere tell me where I can download this file manually? Is there a zip file or something of all the modules for that build?
[03:28] <JohnRobert> heh
[03:28] <JohnRobert> don't expect too much then
[03:28] <Zborg> hello :)
[03:28] <Vilhelms> I need to get my battery replaced though... I'm still in Warranty and can do it. Just the two weeks without it is kind of hard :-\
[03:28] <JohnRobert> yeah
[03:28] <JohnRobert> well worth doing then
[03:28] <Zborg> I have a small problem with one of my ubuntu boxes
[03:29] <Vilhelms> JohnRobert, Well, thanks for your suggestion :) I will try it and see if my battery dies during the time its suspended heh
[03:29] <JohnRobert> yeah, give it a go
[03:29] <Zborg> I used to mount smb shares by using the "connect to server" menu in "shortcuts", and suddenly these mounts don't work anymore
[03:29] <Vilhelms> Is there a specific channel I should go to ask beryl related questions or should I ask them here?
[03:30] <IdleOne> Vilhelms, can try #ubuntu-effects or in here also or #beryl
[03:30] <Vilhelms> IdleOne, Thanks :)
[03:31] <erUSUL> tanascar: install the last kernel 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic'
[03:32] <tanascar> erUSUL: problem is my network isnt working, trying to do networking stop/start and it comes up with an error on that file
[03:32] <risto> hi
[03:32] <tanascar> it was missing, shoved a file from elsewhere in there, not the right one
[03:32] <defragmeout> hello
[03:33] <huXfluX> Does anyone know how can i install the "Console" font for Konsole? PLEASE! Thank you!
[03:34] <tanascar> Is there a list somewhere that I can search for a specific kernel file and it will tell me what package it is in?
[03:34] <Zborg> any idea about my shares problem?
[03:34] <cikas> hello--how i install a printer i mean yhe driver?
[03:34] <Zborg> tanascar: did you try apt-file ?
[03:35] <cikas> hello--how i install a printer i mean the driver?
[03:35] <IdleOne> tanascar, the file is in the kernel package sudo aptitude install linux-image-generic
[03:35] <erUSUL> tanascar: well how do you plan to get the file then?
[03:35] <kleinLohmi> hellp
[03:35] <kleinLohmi> hello
[03:35] <tanascar> I have another machine
[03:35] <hbaigu> huXfluX, i don't use konsole, but can't you choose the font that you want in the preferences settings?
[03:36] <tanascar> booting the machine with live cd, mounting existing file system, then replace file
[03:36] <erUSUL> tanascar: if you are in a i386 machine dl this http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.17/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_2.6.17.1-11.35_i386.deb
[03:36] <IdleOne> tanascar, then download the linux-image-generic package and intall it to the machine that nees it
[03:36] <tanascar> k, thanks guys
[03:36] <Dregin> my sound in edgy is no longer working. I havent installed anything today at all and the sound was working before I loaded audacity.
[03:37] <kleinLohmi> i have a geforce 2 ti and installed the nvidia-glx-legacy package, then i set driver=nvidia in the xorg.conf, but when i start the x-server, the x-server crashes. can anyone help me?
[03:37] <pawan> hi
[03:37] <cikas> how to install printer driver?
[03:37] <CapRiCoRN^80> wats SILO prompt ?
[03:37] <pawan> how to connect to internet using ubuntu livecd
[03:37] <ikonia> silo is a version of lilo for use on sparc
[03:38] <pawan> how to connect to broadband
[03:38] <pawan> using ubuntu livecd
[03:38] <CapRiCoRN^80> silo stands for ?
[03:38] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: does it matter ?
[03:39] <chris> kleinLohmi: did you make a backup copy of your xorg.conf?
[03:39] <pablo> hi, why is it said ubuntu is not completely free?
[03:39] <kleinLohmi> yes
[03:39] <CapRiCoRN^80> hmm
[03:39] <iratik> pablo: for corporations - commercial support is available
[03:39] <kleinLohmi> the x server is running, but without the nvidia driver
[03:39] <variant> pablo: because it contains certain closed source firmware for the likes of wireless cards etc
[03:39] <CapRiCoRN^80> i m trying to install ubuntu on sun blade 150 n reading some posts that y i asked
[03:39] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: so why do you need to know what it stands for, i've already told you its a version of the lilo boot loader for sparc
[03:40] <pawan> broadband on livecd
[03:40] <pawan> how
[03:40] <ikonia> it goes between the obp and the booting of the kernel
[03:40] <chris> kleinLohmi: this is probably the easiest method to install the driver, I would try this first, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:40] <variant> pablo: please rephrase your question in a polite way if you expect to get an answer other than google
[03:40] <kleinLohmi> thank you, im going to try this
[03:40] <sacater> if anyone is a 1337 with source compiling, can they please join my #sacater channel, i have a few questions to ask
[03:41] <ikonia> sacater: just ask in a development channel
[03:41] <pibarnas> What's the best software to copy DVDs on Ubuntu?!
[03:41] <pablo> variant: ok sorry, how would you do the question?
[03:41] <pawan> how to play mp3 files in ubuntu
[03:41] <LinTux> I have been unsuccessful in installing the Nvidia driver for my PCI-E 7300LE, does anyone know of a script that will do this for me?
[03:41] <variant> pibarnas: depends how you want to copy the, make an avi or make a duplicate dvd?
[03:41] <pawan> and how to connect it to internet
[03:41] <Toma-> pibarnas: dvdshrink is a crowd favorite
[03:41] <erUSUL> !nvidia | LinTux
[03:41] <ubotu> LinTux: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:41] <ikonia> pawan: go and read the basics on http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <pibarnas> variant duplicate.
[03:41] <Zborg> any idea about the problem I have with my smb shares?
[03:42] <chris> pawan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:42] <variant> pibarnas: as Toma- mentioned, there are free software alternatives to this though
[03:42] <erUSUL> ubotu tell pawan about mp3 | pawan see priv msg from ubotu
[03:42] <Toma-> pibarnas: dvdshrink will have a dvd9 format down to a standard dvd
[03:42] <CapRiCoRN^80> any one there how has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[03:42] <ikonia> yes
[03:42] <Toma-> variant: like dvdshrink :D (linux version)
[03:42] <Toma-> ahh "xdvdshrink"
[03:43] <variant> Toma-: is it gpl/other free licence?
[03:43] <pablo> variant: apart from the support and the wireless firmware, something else is not free?
[03:43] <Toma-> gpl
[03:43] <ikonia> pablo: there is nothing in ubuntu you have to pay for
[03:43] <pibarnas> Toma- Is it on Multiverse or Universe... I can' get through apt...
[03:43] <variant> pablo: the free refers to freedom rather than cost.. thats a common miss conception of what Free Software actualy means
[03:43] <flounders> ikonia: He meant free as in speech.
[03:43] <l3m> where can i get 2.6.18 for edgy?
[03:43] <ikonia> l3m you can't
[03:43] <pablo> variant: sorry i ment open
[03:44] <variant> l3m: download it from kernel.org (assuming you mean linux) and compile it
[03:44] <l3m> ikonia debian usually has backported repos....ubuntu doesnt?
[03:44] <ikonia> l3m: yes, but there is no .18 package
[03:44] <Toma-> pablo: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Xdvdshrink
[03:44] <l3m> ikonia ok. not yet or is there a reason for it?
[03:44] <ikonia> there is no need for it
[03:44] <l3m> ikonia why not?
[03:45] <ikonia> why is there a need for it
[03:45] <l3m> am i missing something?
[03:45] <pibarnas> Where do I get dvdshrink?
[03:45] <pawan> how to connect to broadband using ubuntu livecd
[03:45] <ikonia> don't think your missing anything
[03:45] <ikonia> pawan: I've told you where to look
[03:46] <variant> man, this channel stresses me so much sometimes :)
[03:46] <l3m> ikonia well i have a cluster with requires patches for myrinet and lustre and they are only available for 2.6.12 or ..18
[03:46] <phyberoptik> stress can be a good thing
[03:46] <l3m> which
[03:46] <Toma-> pibarnas: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Xdvdshrink
[03:46] <ikonia> l3m: you'll have to build your own and break your ubuntu dependency tree
[03:46] <pibarnas> Toma- Ok, thank you, I'll get it!
[03:46] <Toma-> np.
[03:47] <variant> l3m: sounds like you know what your doing then, download the source from kernel.org and compile it your self
[03:47] <yaman> ikonia: do you know how ndiswrapper work ?
[03:47] <ikonia> yaman: yes thanks
[03:47] <ikonia> although I never usei t
[03:47] <ikonia> it
[03:47] <Toma-> variant: i had to cut back on helping coz it gets so stressful :)
[03:47] <l3m> ikonia, variant thanks! i justed wanted to use a official .config as base
[03:48] <eric__> Is there a way to install from the net?
[03:48] <variant> !install | eric__
[03:48] <HymnToLife> eric__, not that I know of
[03:48] <ubotu> eric__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:48] <variant> eric__: yes there is
[03:48] <ikonia> Toma-: its not stressfull, there are just too many fools and you can't see anything to them as ubuntu is "super friendly" just becomes tedious saying !nvidia !wifi !beryl and !ati
[03:48] <HymnToLife> !netinst
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netinst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <eric__> Awesome, thanks gents
[03:49] <Toma-> ikonia: i have a nasty habit of helping 10 people at once aswell.
[03:49] <fabio_> hi all...i have a problem...my ubuntu don't mont the swap partition...how can solve it?
[03:49] <ikonia> fabio_: swap doesn't get mounted as a file system
[03:49] <Toma-> ikonia: quickly turns into a google frenzy for non-google artists :)
[03:49] <defragmeout> anyone going to con?
[03:50] <yaman> any one have an idea for this error ??!!  when i do this (ndiswrapper -l) it give me  "bcmwl5  invalid driver!" how can i fix this problem the wireless still not working on my computer :@
[03:50] <erUSUL> fabio_: try sudo swapon -a' and paste the errors you get
[03:50] <pibarnas> ikonia It can be, but you need special modules from kernel...
[03:50] <ikonia> yaman: the driver is invalid
[03:50] <erUSUL> !pastebin > fabio_
[03:50] <ikonia> pbureau: pardon ?
[03:50] <ikonia> pibarnas: pardon ?
[03:50] <Toma-> yaman: are you sure its the correct driver? use lspci to see the exact chipset it uses
[03:50] <fabio_> fabio@vaio:~$ sudo swapon -a
[03:50] <fabio_> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/6bd104ed-7819-41d6-86fd-bbcc941da67a: Argomento non valido
[03:51] <pibarnas> ikonia sorry, I get confused with ram... :)
[03:51] <Zborg> forget it, a reboot did the trick
[03:51] <yaman> mmm lemme try
[03:51] <Toma-> yaman: ps. dont paste in here
[03:52] <yaman> i didn't paste !!
[03:52] <Toma-> i know :D
[03:52] <Toma-> just preping for a lspci paste
[03:52] <fabio_> erUSUL: i have this error:
[03:52] <fabio_> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/6bd104ed-7819-41d6-86fd-bbcc941da67a: Argomento non valido
[03:52] <CapRiCoRN^80> any one there how has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[03:52] <yaman> lol it's only one line
[03:52] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: yes
[03:52] <fabio_> "Argoment not valid"
[03:52] <cypherdelic> Hello, does anybody knows, how to encrypt root-filesystem for edgy 6.10 after server installation?
[03:52] <CapRiCoRN^80> nice to hear from u
[03:52] <eric__> Is the slow IPv6 DNS problem solved in Fawn?
[03:53] <yaman> how can i show u the result then  ??
[03:53] <Toma-> !pastebin
[03:53] <ikonia> eric__: its still beta
[03:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:53] <Toma-> yaman: ^^^
[03:53] <erUSUL> fabio_: and does that partition exist on your machine? can you post de /etc/fstab ?
[03:53] <deb_user> hey...is there anyway to rollback an update?
[03:53] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: after boot cdrom it welcome me n do some processing but give me illegal error
[03:53] <deb_user> i get choppy graphics after an update
[03:53] <CapRiCoRN^80> wat should i do ?
[03:53] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: depends on the error
[03:53] <fabio_> erSUL: yes...it exist....maybe is changed the uuid?
[03:53] <yaman> :^)
[03:53] <ikonia> fabio_: check it with blkid
[03:54] <erUSUL> fabio_: post the fstab please
[03:54] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: its illegal instruction error
[03:54] <Toma-> deb_user: you can hope that your /var/cache/apt directory didnt get cleaned, and install the old .deb file
[03:54] <yaman> toma: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5727/plain/
[03:54] <n0dl> do we have any c++ coders in here?
[03:54] <fabio_> uhm...uuid isn't changed but...
[03:54] <fabio_> /dev/hda4: UUID="6bd104ed-7819-41d6-86fd-bbcc941da67a" TYPE="swsuspend"
[03:54] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: well, you either need to be more specific or its a generic issue with your media
[03:54] <ikonia> n0dl: just ask the question
[03:55] <fabio_> swsuspended? firt i have try to suspend my notebook....but it's don't restart...
[03:55] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: didnt get u
[03:55] <deb_user> toma-: i've got /var/cache/apt/archive, with a whole slew of .deb files in it
[03:55] <fabio_> and i have shut down it brutally :)
[03:55] <Dave> sorry about the lack of knowledge of names of stuff.  but can two hard drives run off one cable to the motherboard?
[03:55] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: whats the exact error - at what point do you get it, what is the result of getting it
[03:55] <Toma-> deb_user: well, start rolling back :)
[03:55] <deb_user> toma-: how do I know which ones to choose?
[03:56] <CapRiCoRN^80> its do loading intial ramdisk and then illegal instruction n ok prompt
[03:56] <yaman> Toma: do you know where i can get driver for this ?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5727/plain/
[03:56] <Toma-> deb_user: find the biggest number of a package, -1, then install it?
[03:56] <erUSUL> fabio_: mine are of the form "UUID=bfd5e177-9651-4777-85db-46e9fa6c8d21 none swap sw 0 0" i do not recognize that fstab line...
[03:56] <Toma-> yaman: plz wait.
[03:56] <ikonia> yaman: hmmm mare you sure you have the sparc version ?
[03:56] <yaman> Toma: ok sorry
[03:56] <loca|host> anyone know a web based free port scanner ? i would like to scan my router IP from outside to check for open ports
[03:57] <ikonia> nmap
[03:57] <VrilutZa> need help
[03:57] <ikonia> ask then
[03:57] <yaman> ikonia: i don't know i am new linux user
[03:57] <VrilutZa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5731/
[03:57] <yaman> :(
[03:57] <fabio_> erUSUL: in fstab there is that line!
[03:57] <ikonia> yaman: you don't know what ?
[03:57] <loca|host> ikonia, web based ?
[03:57] <ikonia> loca|host: oooh right, no idea, just get someone on the net to nmap you
[03:57] <CapRiCoRN^80> after booting i get the boot: prompt and i hit Enter and it do some processing and then do Loading initial ramdisk (some calculation in bracket) after that i get illegal instruction error and it give me ok prompt
[03:58] <deb_user> toma-: i've sorted the packages by date
[03:58] <Toma-> deb_user: thatll work too
[03:58] <deb_user> and installing all the ones that occured on the date of my latest update
[03:58] <pbureau> ikonia, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=web+port+scanner&btnG=Google+Search
[03:58] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: are you sure you have the sparc cd
[03:58] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: after booting i get the boot: prompt and i hit Enter and it do some processing and then do Loading initial ramdisk (some calculation in bracket) after that i get illegal instruction error and it give me ok prompt
[03:58] <CapRiCoRN^80> yes
[03:58] <Toma-> deb_user: id install the ones from BEFORE things got bad
[03:58] <ikonia> pbureau: why are you showing me that
[03:58] <soundray> loca|host: http://www.heise.de/security/dienste/portscan/test/go.shtml?scanart=2 -- if you don't mind the German
[03:58] <VrilutZa> pls need help
[03:58] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: have you searched the forum
[03:58] <pbureau> opps sorry ikonia
[03:58] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: i got this cd titile ubuntu-6.06.1-server-sparc
[03:59] <CapRiCoRN^80> yes i did
[03:59] <pbureau> loca|host, check this for web based http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=web+port+scanner&btnG=Google+Search
[03:59] <Toma-> yaman: whats the error from ndiswrapper again?
[03:59] <CapRiCoRN^80> n got some results like edit file /etc/silo etc
[03:59] <CapRiCoRN^80> but i m not getting it
[03:59] <yaman> ikonia: i don't know how to get the bcmwl5  invalid driver!
[03:59] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: bottom line is - something in that ramdisk or kernel is stopping it booting
[03:59] <erUSUL> fabio_: then make sure that the partition it points it is of type swap with 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/xxx'
[04:00] <yaman> sorry wrong :P
[04:00] <yaman> toma: bcmwl5  invalid driver!
[04:00] <deb_user> toma-: on all of them it says same version already installed
[04:00] <sdilimot> hello!
[04:00] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: wat should i do
[04:00] <phyberoptik> yaman: ndiswrapper + windows driver for your card
[04:00] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: log a bug
[04:01] <Toma-> ok yaman i found you something... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:01] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359592
[04:01] <yaman> phyberoptik: yeah mr thats what i did i think i still have problem some where so i can't use it
[04:01] <VrilutZa> hello I need help
[04:01] <yaman> ok toma i ll try thanx
[04:01] <Toma-> deb_user: yeh, youll have to install the ones from before the date that you installed the bad packages...
[04:01] <fabio_> erUSUL: the output is: Il disco /dev/hda4 non contiene una tabella delle partizioni valida....traslate "/dev/hda4 don't have a valid table partition "
[04:01] <deb_user> they aren't there
[04:01] <phyberoptik> ah, i've seen alot of people try and use some weird driver files
[04:01] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: what do you want me to do with that
[04:01] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: can u check above thread
[04:01] <Toma-> deb_user: well thats going to be hard.
[04:02] <deb_user> great...
[04:02] <Toma-> :/
[04:02] <Toma-> deb_user: what the real problem?
[04:02] <VrilutZa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5731/
[04:02] <VrilutZa> how to resolv this?
[04:02] <VrilutZa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5731/
[04:02] <deb_user> toma-: the real problem is the ati drivers were broken for ever
[04:02] <CapRiCoRN^80> in this thread there is some thing about /boot/silo.conf gile
[04:02] <CapRiCoRN^80> i dont know where this file is
[04:02] <deb_user> toma-: so I froze them out so they wouldn't update, from the last version that worked
[04:03] <ikonia> that file is on the cd - you can't edit it as silo is read only on the cdrom
[04:03] <deb_user> now I'm sure that's coming back to haunt me
[04:03] <Toma-> do you remember the working version?
[04:03] <CapRiCoRN^80> then y its mentioned in the specific thread
[04:03] <erUSUL> fabio_: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[04:03] <deb_user> toma-: the working version of the ati drivers?
[04:03] <pbureau> yaman what card you have bcm????
[04:03] <Toma-> yeh
[04:04] <deb_user> toma-: right now I'm running 8.24.8-1
[04:04] <ikonia> your missreading it
[04:04] <bard> hey
[04:04] <deb_user> fglrx-control
[04:04] <ikonia> you need to edit the boot properties
[04:04] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: i m just searching a way to install it on my sun blade 150
[04:04] <Toma-> deb_user: and theyre broken... whats the working version number?
[04:04] <nikitis> Has anyone been able to get CS Source to work with wine?  I can get it to run, but when joining a game it freezes at sending client info.  I went to #winehq and they said it was a ubuntu issue.  Cause it works with all other distros
[04:04] <CapRiCoRN^80> i got only one ram as i have read some threads that if u have 2 rams u should remove 1 etc
[04:04] <deb_user> toma-: later versions caused major problems on reboot and shut down
[04:05] <bard> i have a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  wificard ubuntu upgraded my kernel but didnt use bcm43xx-fwcutter to get the firmware
[04:05] <Toma-> ahh so thats the working version?
[04:05] <deb_user> Have no idea if they fixed it yet or not
[04:05] <yaman> pbureau: its wifi card for a asus laptop a6r  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[04:05] <bard> what do i need to do to get bcm43xx-fxcutter to install the fireware
[04:05] <tanascar> Is there a command line utility to extract files manually from a .deb package? My dpkg is messed...
[04:05] <deb_user> toma-: don't know, they kept upgrading it, but it never fixed the problem, so I locked it out with the version that worked
[04:05] <deb_user> toma-: now I'm starting to run into compatibility problems
[04:05] <pbureau> yaman, come to #ubuntu-wifi I can help you.
[04:05] <bard> i want my wifi working again :)
[04:05] <Toma-> dang.
[04:05] <nikitis> Anybody?
[04:06] <unop> tanascar,  if dpkg is "messed" reinstall dpkg then :)
[04:06] <deb_user> toma-: yeah...
[04:06] <ikonia> nikitis: anybody what ?
[04:06] <nikitis> Has anyone been able to get CS Source to work with wine?  I can get it to run, but when joining a game it freezes at sending client info.  I went to #winehq and they said it was a ubuntu issue.  Cause it works with all other distros
[04:06] <tanascar> unop: No internet, no apt-get, etc..
[04:06] <unop> tanascar,  the command to extract a .deb however is - ar -x file.deb
[04:06] <ikonia> nikitis: you'll get a better response from #wine and #winehq
[04:06] <erUSUL> fabio_: 'sudo swapon /dev/hda4'
[04:06] <tanascar> unop: Thanks :)
[04:06] <nikitis> ikonia, just said that they sent me to you
[04:07] <ikonia> nikitis: are you using wine from the ubuntu repo or from the wine web site ?
[04:07] <nikitis> ubuntu
[04:07] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: wat u say ?
[04:07] <Toma-> nikitis: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731
[04:07] <fabio_> fabio@vaio:~$ sudo swapon /dev/hda4
[04:07] <fabio_>  swapon: /dev/hda4: Argoment not valid
[04:07] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: what I say  ???? I didn't say anyting to you
[04:07] <Toma-> deb_user: so youre still using the working ati driver? and its locked?
[04:08] <deb_user> toma-: yeah, i could unlock it...
[04:08] <deb_user> toma-: i'm wondering if I should upgrade to edgy...though I had wanted to stay with dapper because its the "long term stable"
[04:08] <CapRiCoRN^80> ikonia: any advice etc ?
[04:08] <GreyGhost> deb_user ,u got any good reason to upgrade?
[04:08] <ikonia> CapRiCoRN^80: try the boot parameters suggested in the thread ?
[04:08] <variant> fabio_: is that a valid swap partition?
[04:09] <deb_user> greyghost: yeah, my graphics are all choppy now after an update
[04:09] <Toma-> deb_user: dapper has all the same versions as edgy, afaik
[04:09] <deb_user> greyghost: and I'm sure its related to the broken fglrx-control with an ati graphics card in dapper
[04:09] <GreyGhost>  deb_user ,tried reinstalling ur graphics drivers?
[04:09] <deb_user> greyghost: that's the problem...
[04:09] <fabio_> variant...i think that the problem is suspend....first i have suspend my notebook...but i don't restart....e i shutdown it brutally...
[04:09] <deb_user> greyghost: the latest updates are broken with my ati card
[04:09] <Al> Hi guys, currently I have win installed and i have a second partition (D:) - wanna put ubuntu on D , but don't wanna loose the files from D and I wanna accesses them (the files), any ideas ?
[04:09] <deb_user> just check out the bug report page
[04:10] <deb_user> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bugs
[04:10] <ikonia> al you can't put ubuntu on D without formating it
[04:10] <fabio_> variant: the blkid output is /dev/hda4: UUID="6bd104ed-7819-41d6-86fd-bbcc941da67a" TYPE="swsuspend"
[04:10] <ShiFTKey> hey
[04:10] <erUSUL> fabio_: something is wrong with that partition i do no know what...
[04:10] <ShiFTKey> i just updated my nvidia driver from the software update
[04:10] <deb_user> a HUGE list of stuff with pretty much the same problems I've been having with the latest driver
[04:10] <GreyGhost> deb_user ,i havent really used dapper for long ... but i''ve heard that edgy has upgrade bugs ...
[04:10] <ShiFTKey> and now my x is broke
[04:10] <fabio_> why is "swsuspend"?
[04:11] <variant> fabio_: sorry, I dont know what the problem is. could be that the partition needs to be reset (mkswap) every time you come back from a suspend.. you can automate that if it is indeed the problem
[04:11] <cjsoftuk> What does the following error mean:
[04:11] <cjsoftuk> emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
[04:11] <fabio_> variant: mkswap /dev/hda4?
[04:11] <variant> fabio_: if thats your swap partition
[04:11] <angel> hey
[04:11] <Toma-> deb_user: when it comes to ati, im at a loss.
[04:11] <angel> ik heb een vraagje
[04:11] <Al> Ikonia: Can you somehow devide a partition without loosing its files ?
[04:12] <ikonia> Al no
[04:12] <Al> ... oh ... great :(
[04:12] <Toma-> deb_user: all i can really suggest it running the absolute latest drivers from ati.
[04:12] <ikonia> al you'll need to strink it - and create a new one at best
[04:12] <variant> angel: this is an english speaking channel only
[04:12] <unop> !gparted | Al
[04:12] <ubotu> Al: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:12] <deb_user> toma-: i'm looking through the bug reports now to see if its been fixed
[04:12] <deb_user> toma-: thanks for your help though
[04:12] <cjsoftuk> Anyone have any ideas on why emerald says Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0" at me?
[04:13] <Al> ubotu: how does that help?
[04:13] <Toma-> deb_user: good idea. also, if you can throw them anymore info, it will be worth it in the long run
[04:13] <ikonia> cjsoftuk: join #ubuntu-effects
[04:13] <Toma-> deb_user: no probs. wish i could have done more
[04:13] <cjsoftuk> ok
[04:13] <cjsoftuk> thx ikonia
[04:13] <CheshireViking> Al, can you copy the contents of "D" to a new directory on "C", then repartition "D" into an Ubuntu partition and a 2nd empty partition that you can format as FAT32 and have access to in both Win & Ubuntu, then install Ubuntu onto the new partition and copy the original data back to the new "D"?
[04:13] <tanascar> easy question here...  when I do a command like ar --help.. how do I keep if from scrolling off the screen.. tried to do -less but it acts all weird and doesn't let me scroll up
[04:13] <deb_user> toma-: guess i'll just have to upgrade and see if its fixed...
[04:13] <ikonia> tanascar: pipe it through "more"
[04:13] <therapy> angel:  voor vragen in het nederlands : #ubuntu-nl
[04:13] <Toma-> deb_user: you could test install on an extra partition?
[04:13] <unop> Al, ubotu is a bot .. :) and ubotu was suggesting you use gparted to divide a partition up without losing files
[04:14] <nikitis> Toma-, omg thanks.  That site let me to find out that it doesn't like alsa.  Fixed my problem
[04:14] <tanascar> weird.. worked on that one.. but sometime doesn't.. thanks though
[04:14] <deb_user> toma-: nah, I can always roll it back if I have to
[04:14] <Toma-> nikitis: no probs
[04:14] <fabio_> variant: i have do mkswap...change uuid in fstab...and swapon...now it works. thank you!
[04:14] <Toma-> deb_user: okie dokie :>
[04:14] <fabio_> variant: but why my suspend don't works?
[04:14] <Al> unop: realized that ... didn't know about that :(
[04:14] <Al> hahaha
[04:15] <Dave> can someone please tell me which connection on the ribbon cable is the slave and master? is the one on the very end the master?
[04:15] <unop> Al, the ubuntu live CD has gparted which'll work on windows volumes
[04:15] <ikonia> dave thats not ubuntu
[04:15] <unop> al :)
[04:15] <poningru> Dave: yes
[04:15] <Dave> ikonia: i know, but i am doing it so i can install ubuntu
[04:16] <poningru> Dave: but make sure its on cable select
[04:16] <Al> So I will have to copy the files on something else and then format D... Or are there any other suggestions  ?
[04:16] <ikonia> ughhh I'm fed up of the weak questions in this channel
[04:16] <ikonia> either its ubuntu support
[04:16] <unop> Dave, that depends on the jumper configuration on the drives actually
[04:16] <Dave> poningru: can i connect two hard drives to one ribbon cable?
[04:16] <ikonia> or its not and its a free for all including basic pc maintenence
[04:16] <poningru> Dave: yes
[04:16] <Toma-> ikonia: how can i effectivly debug a window manager? :)
[04:16] <bauer77> what is a weak question?
[04:16] <Al> Can this programm shrink my partitioin without deleting anything ?
[04:16] <Dave> ok, i will try that out.
[04:16] <Al> I thought the answer was no ... :(
[04:17] <ikonia> Toma-: that would be interesting
[04:17] <poningru> Al: back it up, no guarantees
[04:17] <unop> Al, errm, it probably will if there is enough space to contain the files
[04:17] <Toma-> ikonia: xnest,valgrind+gdb :O
[04:17] <Toma-> ;)
[04:17] <Al> confused :S
[04:17] <ikonia> Toma-: are you genuinly doing that ?
[04:17] <Toma-> yeh
[04:17] <Toma-> debugging e17 :>
[04:17] <poningru> alenax: are you talking about ntfs?
[04:17] <Al> I suppose I back up anyways ... it s a little bit to dangerous to loose all the music :D
[04:17] <CheshireViking> Al, I've used it to do that twice, first time it worked ok, second time, some files got corrupted, just make sure you've got a working backup before you do anything
[04:17] <ikonia> Toma-: very interesting
[04:18] <alenax> i am just not talking poningru
[04:18] <alenax> :p
[04:18] <unop> Al, gparted can only shrink a partiton down by shaving off the free space in that partition but no more
[04:18] <poningru> alenax: sorry :)
[04:18] <Al> can you make unop shut up ? ... hahaha
[04:19] <fabio_> guys...when i suspend my notebook...no problem...but when i press a button to restart my pc...the leds turn on...but the screen is black! why?
[04:19] <unop> I think i will actually
[04:19] <Al> Chesire Viking:Ok ... I'll try ... a little scared :S
[04:19] <ikonia> al depends if you can grasp these simple concepts without being told it 4 or 5 times
[04:20] <Kresjah> Hey! I've been trying to get my gfx card runnin GL on my Feisty for weeks now. I am using an Ati Mobility M1 (Mach64). After several attempts using different methods, I am currently at what seems to be my last alternative, building DRM and MESA myself. Following this guide ( http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building ) I've no come to the point where I have to make changes to and compile a modified kernel (section 1.7 of said guide)... howev
[04:20] <Toma-> Kresjah: feisty means no help from here
[04:20] <Toma-> try #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <ikonia> Kresjah: why are you bothering with all that - fesity is still alpha - next week changes could break all your effort
[04:21] <Kresjah> Ok. Thanks
[04:21] <Al> Look, I'm speakin a foreign languge and try to understand you, sorry for that... 2.: I just wanna know, wheather this programm will delete those fiiles or just make new partitions out ot the free space ... :(
[04:21] <alenax> no problem poningru :))
[04:21] <ikonia> al I've told you 2 times myself  you are best to create a new partition along side your existing one
[04:22] <ikonia> al shrinking partitions can be dangerous
[04:22] <Kresjah> ikonia: Because I (unfortunately) didn't listen when a linux friend of mine recommended to run feisty
[04:22] <ikonia> Kresjah: so install edgy for example
[04:22] <Kresjah> But nevertheless, this same problem has existed all the way since Dapper or something
[04:22] <ikonia> Kresjah: rather than persist with an alpha product
[04:22] <Al> all right, thx ... get back to you later ... see ya
[04:23] <Q-FUNK> howdy!  anyone with pulseaudio problems on Feisty?
[04:23] <Kresjah> Too bad I didn't bring my Edgy cd... gotta redownload it then
[04:23] <tarin> hello everyone
[04:23] <ikonia> Q-FUNK: probably - fesity is alpha -
[04:23] <Q-FUNK> ikonia: it's already in freeze.
[04:23] <ikonia> Q-FUNK: still in alpha
[04:23] <variant> Q-FUNK: #ubuntu+1
[04:23] <Toma-> Q-FUNK: doesnt mean its supported yet
[04:23] <TAGBEdotCOM> wow
[04:24] <Kresjah> So, will ya help me if I get my Edgy back then? :p
[04:24] <TAGBEdotCOM> my distro is populair
[04:24] <ikonia> yes
[04:24] <TAGBEdotCOM> look how many people
[04:24] <ikonia> TAGBEdotCOM: "you" distro ?
[04:24] <bauer77> Is anyone having an issue withe Terminal server client, it works for me very irratically
[04:24] <Kresjah> Very well... gotta scour this house for a writable CD
[04:24] <tarin> so i need some advice
[04:24] <ikonia> tarin: just ask the question
[04:24] <Q-FUNK> Toma-: I wasn't asking abotu that either.
[04:25] <tarin> i booted ubuntu from the disk on my old dust pc thats about 3 yrs old now and it worked fine
[04:25] <tarin> i then booted it on my new awesome pc and it dosent worlk
[04:25] <tarin> it stops at the splash and glitches
[04:25] <Toma-> tarin: i installed it flawlessly on a 266mhz 64mb pentium :>
[04:26] <iratik> what is sit0 the network interface ?
[04:26] <iratik> ah... the wifi ?
[04:26] <Q-FUNK> variant: that was the droid I was looking for.  thanks
[04:26] <Skew-> is a 3 year old PC old?
[04:26] <tarin> yeah, so i dont understand why this is happening
[04:26] <variant> qsloqs: what?
[04:26] <phyberoptik> as a joke, i managed to get windows xp installed on a 350mhz p2 with 32mb of ram
[04:26] <ikonia> tarin: probably your video card is very new
[04:26] <tarin> 'is that an issue
[04:26] <ikonia> tarin: it can be
[04:26] <phyberoptik> slower than death, installed linux (cli only) and proved the superiority of linux vs windows
[04:26] <Toma-> phyberoptik: and it ran?!
[04:26] <phyberoptik> it ran!
[04:26] <phyberoptik> it was nuts
[04:27] <ikonia> phyberoptik: probes nothing
[04:27] <ikonia> proves
[04:27] <phyberoptik> i could even play red alert ;)
[04:27] <tarin> how would i get around this problem
[04:27] <Toma-> phyberoptik: should have pumped out soem fluxbox on it :>
[04:27] <phyberoptik> hehe
[04:27] <ikonia> tarin: what video card do you have ?
[04:27] <tarin> x800
[04:28] <phyberoptik> i tell ya, ubuntu works great on acer notebooks, i've loaded it on 4 so far, works awesome
[04:28] <huXfluX> DOES anyone know where the location "fonts:/" is located specificaly on the hard drive ?
[04:28] <tarin> radeon X800, 3Ghc cpu 1g ram, etc etc
[04:28] <royel> Hello Gnome, anyone know anything about the gnome-look.org website, has been unavailable to me for over a day now
[04:28] <ikonia> royel: this is ubuntu - not gnome
[04:29] <dtrump> sup?
[04:29] <royel> ikonia: lol, oops :)
[04:29] <tarin> Does the X800 have issues?
[04:29] <ikonia> tarin: with things like dri - yes
[04:29] <tarin> dri?
[04:29] <ikonia> tarin: simple answer "yes it can"
[04:29] <tarin> ah
[04:30] <tarin> what can i do to overcome these issues?
[04:30] <ikonia> !ati >tarin
[04:30] <Toma-> good luck all
[04:31] <huXfluX> DOES anyone know where the location "fonts:/" is located specificaly on the hard drive ?
[04:31] <rambo3> in some shared folder
[04:31] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[04:31] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:31] <rambo3>  . /usr/share/fonts maby
[04:31] <gnomefreak> go to that link it will tell you
[04:32] <tarin> are there drivers i need to install? updates I need to download? what will work on my setup?
[04:32] <TAGBEdotCOM> j help
[04:32] <bauer77> never mind I resolved my Terminal server client problem
[04:32] <ycmarvin> I tried to update synaptic package manager and I wasn't able to download all repositories..is this normal in update
[04:32] <bauer77> I was unaware that I had to select RPDv5 and not RDP
[04:33] <rylan> hey all
[04:33] <TimRainey> Hello, I have been using windows for like 10 years now. I have hosted my webstuff on CentOS. I am moving to a new server which could be running Ubuntu, and I don't want to pay for Cpanel. So my question is, is there a way for me to get to the GUI from my windows machine to a server downtown?
[04:33] <Dave> poningru: i just read that cable select are not standard on most pcs. i am just using the standard ones which came with my pc, does this mean i have to buy some?  all i want to do is have two hard drives, one with windows and the other ubuntu installed.
[04:33] <tarin> so ubuntu doesn't work with an ati card
[04:34] <eric__> TimRainey, do your servers have shell access?
[04:34] <poningru> !ati | tarin
[04:34] <TimRainey> Yes
[04:34] <ubotu> tarin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <mjr> it actually works nicely with out-of-the-box free 3d on ati radeon <=x850; for newer ones, it may not be so straightforward
[04:34] <eric__> TimRainey, most servers do not have a GUI
[04:34] <AdamBerg> how can i get beryl to work?
[04:34] <rambo3> !putty
[04:34] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:35] <mjr> oh wait, if the bug hasn't been fixed, you might need to change Driver "ati" to Driver "radeon" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf on some of those that basically work. Which is a shame.
[04:35] <rylan> ok, here is the last attempt for day three on getting my MFing sound to work. anyone have any sort of expertise on this?
[04:35] <poningru> Dave: no I think by 'standard' it means default
[04:35] <tarin> "!ati | tarin" <--- i dont know what that means, but thank you.
[04:35] <TimRainey> This server can be setup how ever I want it to be setup. So if there was some way to access the GUI, where I feel more safe as I do not know the command line very well, I would rather do it that way.
[04:35] <poningru> Dave: but it would still be wrong
[04:35] <eric__> TimRainey, I think you'll need it to have a VNC server, and then have a VNC client wherever you're accessing from
[04:36] <poningru> !dualboot | Dave
[04:36] <ubotu> Dave: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:36] <TimRainey> Okay, I will look into that, thank you very much.
[04:36] <eric__> TimRainey, no problem. :)
[04:36] <Dave> poningru:how do you know if you have cable select on it?
[04:36] <rylan> alright, so i am trying to get my sound to work. im really new at linux, all the easy stuff has been tried. can someone help me?
[04:37] <rylan> anyone?
[04:37] <Ramunas> when I do "sudo modprobe nvidia" i get "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia"
[04:37] <giovi> i
[04:37] <eric__> rylan, linux is really particular about drivers - most of the time linux freaks only allow free drivers in the repositories
[04:37] <Ramunas> any ideas of what can be causing this?
[04:37] <_joey> is anyone using usb wifi on linux box?
[04:37] <giovi> hy
[04:38] <eric__> rylan, you may want to look for a proprietary driver
[04:38] <ycmarvin> I tried to update synaptic package manager and I wasn't able to download all repositories..is this normal in update
[04:38] <stephen> a) Extract bcm43xx-fwcutter-006.tar into your home directory
[04:38] <stephen> b) cd bcm43xx-fwcutter-006
[04:38] <stephen> c) sudo make
[04:38] <stephen> d) sudo make install
[04:38] <stephen> e) sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter /home/bcm43xx-fwcutter-006/BCMWL5.SYS
[04:38] <stephen> f) sudo make installfw
[04:38] <stephen> i need help with step c
[04:38] <stephen> when i do sudo make
[04:38] <rylan> eric__,  ok, how do i go about doing that
[04:38] <eric__> !paste
[04:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <stephen> it just siad no specified target
[04:38] <pbureau> hello stephen  come to #ubuntu-wifi :)
[04:38] <eric__> rylan, depends on what soundcard you have - try running "lspci" on the command line
[04:38] <poningru> Dave: a) how old is your computer? b) did you make sure to check the hard drive jumpers?
[04:38] <stephen> k
[04:38] <poningru> !build essential | stephen
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <rambo3> stephen,  go into directory first
[04:39] <bauer77> ls
[04:39] <poningru> !buildessential | stephen
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <poningru> gaah
[04:39] <rylan> eric__,  done that one a bunch of times,
[04:39] <eric__> !build-essential | stephen
[04:39] <ubotu> stephen: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:39] <stephen> k
[04:39] <rylan> eric__,  the question is, with that information where do i go looking
[04:39] <AdamBerg> Has anyone here successfully installed Beryl onto Ubuntu?
[04:39] <eric__> rylan, on the manufacturer's website
[04:39] <eric__> AdamBerg, try #ubuntu-effects
[04:39] <AdamBerg> thanks
[04:39] <stephen> k
[04:40] <rylan> eric__,  now there is where the problem may be, origional manufacturer is a chinese company, you see i am in china.
[04:40] <eric__> rylan, does their website list an official linux driver?
[04:41] <rylan> eric__,  on top of that, chinese is tricky as hell to read. ill try to see if i can find one
[04:41] <eric__> rylan, google language tools might also be of use - http://www.google.com/language_tools
[04:41] <ycmarvin> I tried to update synaptic package manager and I wasn't able to download all repositories..is this normal in update
[04:41] <Dave> poningru: a) it is around 4 years old but i have updated a lot of the hardware.  it is p4 2.66ghz with 1gb ram. b) yes.  i am gonna give it another go now to see what happens.  when i go to the install of ubuntu will i be able to select a hard drive to install it on? (apposed to a partition)
[04:41] <eric__> rylan, or Altavista's babelfish, which I don't have the link to
[04:42] <eric__> ycmarvin, have you modified your repository list?
[04:42] <rylan> eric__,  i may be new at linux, but i am hardly new to computers :P
[04:42] <niyi> can someone please tell me why every time i answer Y to a terminal question it aborts
[04:42] <poningru> Dave: yes
[04:42] <AMD> hey can any one help
[04:42] <eric__> rylan, sorry - I have to assume the worst.  ;D
[04:42] <AMD> i cant run sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[04:42] <eric__> !specific
[04:42] <bronze> niyi: personal animosity maybe
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specific - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <niyi> Do you want to continue [Y/n]  Y
[04:42] <poningru> Dave: just make sure to choose the right hard-drive
[04:42] <niyi> abort
[04:42] <rylan> eric__,  i suppose you must. and you should
[04:43] <poningru> Dave: when it asks for it
[04:43] <Dave> poningru: thanks i will be able to tell from the space available i hope, might be back depending on how it goes lol.
[04:43] <eric__> rylan, it's something that severely frustrated me when I first moved to linux, so I can only do my best to improve on it
[04:43] <bronze> niyi: for what app?
[04:43] <poningru> Dave: if you are using the live cd you can start xchat
[04:43] <poningru> Dave: what cd are you using?
[04:44] <niyi> beta nvidia drivers
[04:44] <sexie> hey guys :D
[04:44] <niyi> ut it happens on other stuff as well bronze
[04:44] <Dave> poningru: just the live one.  i will pop it open when i boot in 5 minutes.
[04:44] <AMD> hey :-)
[04:44] <sexie> Does Ubuntu have transparency in windows (not MS windows)
[04:45] <rylan> eric__,  no dice captain. no drivers for sound on the asus website.
[04:45] <poningru> !beryl | sexie
[04:45] <ubotu> sexie: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:45] <xypruso> modem not working what should i do
[04:45] <AMD> sexiE yessss
[04:45] <sexie> :D
[04:45] <AMD> cant any one help me i cant run sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[04:45] <poningru> sexie: basic answer yes... but you have install couple of software and make sure you have hardware accelerated 3d graphics
[04:45] <cryptom> Hi all, I dont manage to get "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to generate locales for ISO-8859-1 (I managed to get de_CH locales but with UTF-8 by installing language-support-de). How do I get away from UTF-8?
[04:45] <therapy> xypruso:  make it work ;-)
[04:45] <rylan> eric__, any way else?
[04:46] <eric__> rylan, ndiswrapper I think allows you to use Windows drivers in Linux - but I'm not familiar with it
[04:46] <Trist_an> I'd like to have more round buttons under KDE. Now my GAIM looks like this : http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7996/screenshot1yd8.png I'd like that the button "Disponible" for example to be more round and with a gray gradient
[04:46] <sexie> I'm designing a site and want transparencies.
[04:46] <Trist_an> I'm running under KDE
[04:46] <rylan> eric__, is that likely to work?
[04:46] <sexie> Thoout MS would sue me :P
[04:46] <sexie> thought*
[04:46] <xypruso> modem looks like connected but on what port i dont know
[04:47] <eric__> rylan, I'm not sure - but that's what it is aimed for, making drivers from windows work in linux
[04:47] <rylan> hmmm,
[04:47] <eric__> rylan, it's worth a shot, if you can Google up a tutorial on how to use it
[04:47] <AMD> ~$ sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[04:47] <AMD> sudo: aticonfig: command not found
[04:47] <rylan> i might have to do that another day
[04:47] <AMD> hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllppppppppppppppppp
[04:47] <bronze> no
[04:47] <bronze> :-)
[04:48] <AMD> yessss :D
[04:48] <bronze> heh
[04:48] <sexie> Take a look here, http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7199/firemonochrometocolor01xt2.png  The transparent window border wont attract any trademark stuff na?
[04:48] <fabio_> please....anyone can help me with suspend?
[04:48] <AMD> you dont even know whats wrong with it
[04:48] <rylan> eric__, any chance you could tell me a command to scan the system incase i buggered something up on the install. like a check for missing files?
[04:48] <VrilutZa> who is a stable for ubuntu desktop  to recompile
[04:48] <VrilutZa> ?
[04:48] <rylan> eric__, namely the important ones?
[04:48] <eric__> rylan, I wish I knew - I'm looking for a similar command.
[04:49] <eric__> rylan, one that I do run from time to time is "aptitude upgrade"
[04:49] <rylan> eric__, well if you find one let me know
[04:49] <rylan> eric__, what does that do?
[04:50] <eric__> rylan, it resolves all dependencies, and makes sure you have all the latest versions of everything
[04:50] <eric__> rylan, there might be a different parameter, I don't remember, that just runs checks
[04:50] <eric__> rylan, check-dependencies or something silly like that
[04:50] <rylan> well, if it checks and downloads that good enough for me
[04:50] <blazemonger> my toolbar is frozen
[04:50] <phyberoptik> <3 ubuntu as audio system
[04:51] <eric__> phyberoptik, I've had a few problems with multiple sounds playing at once... :/
[04:51] <xypruso> i am chatting via gaim on ubuntu 6.06 lts
[04:51] <blazemonger> phyberoptik:yh ubuntu is great for multimedia
[04:51] <rylan> eric__, what is the command?
[04:51] <eric__> rylan, "aptitude upgrade"
[04:51] <rylan> eric__, i suppose it couldnt hurt to try
[04:51] <mattfletcher> since upgrading to edgy my swap space isn't working
[04:51] <blazemonger> if only i can get ubuntu to not freeze on certain programs
[04:51] <rylan> eric__,just type aptitude upgrade in terminal?
[04:52] <phyberoptik> i run some insane sound hardware in my machines hehe
[04:52] <phyberoptik> multiple sounds works fine for me
[04:52] <rylan> eric__,no dice again.
[04:52] <eric__> rylan, you probably want to add "sudo" to the beginning of it
[04:53] <rambo3> and update before that
[04:53] <rylan> eric__,oh well. it was worth a shot.
[04:53] <mattfletcher> anyone else had problems with their swap partition since an edgy upgrade?
[04:53] <Ramunas> mattfletcher: not me
[04:53] <rylan> eric__,there was one guy who knew what to do to fix my sound, but he isnt online now.
[04:53] <eric__> rylan, try rambo3's advice - "sudo aptitude update" and then "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[04:53] <phyberoptik> my swap doesnt load, doesnt hurt me any tho
[04:53] <rambo3> mattfletcher, what is is mounted as can you see it in fdisk -l
[04:54] <rambo3> sudo fdisk -l
[04:54] <fabio_> please....anyone can help me with suspend?
[04:54] <geem> <<<<<<<<beginner
[04:54] <rylan> eric__, well still no sound, and its nearly midnight with my girlfriend waiting in bed for me. as fun as this is, that is better. have a good night :D
[04:55] <slippyr4> hi all, n00b to ubuntu. have installed 6.06.1 LTS. What package will i find kernel headers in (not source, don't want source)
[04:55] <geem> 20,000 hrs + on microshit
[04:55] <leo> how do I reconfigure xorg? I want to switch from vesa to i810 driver. dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server?
[04:55] <geem> i saw that
[04:55] <phyberoptik> geem: ouch, i havent used windows for like 3 years
[04:55] <phyberoptik> as a desktop anyway
[04:55] <rambo3> !fixres > leo
[04:56] <geem> well as i just told he guys in apache i am new to this net and them and here helped me getting my server up
[04:56] <mattfletcher> rambo3 http://www.pastebin.ca/355564
[04:56] <geem> so i thought i'd stay and lern and try to help
[04:56] <geem> the headers i saw
[04:56] <geem> but forgot
[04:56] <phyberoptik> geem: linux is great, depending on what you do, i Dj, and damn does it work great for that :)
[04:57] <geem> i own a pc store in san antonio
[04:57] <rambo3> mattfletcher, how do you know that it is not working
[04:57] <phyberoptik> geem: nice, i own very large speakers lol
[04:57] <geem> kewl
[04:57] <geem> i got osome nice stuff too
[04:57] <geem> :)
[04:57] <xypruso> anyone here for modem
[04:58] <VrilutZa> who is the latest stable version of the ubuntu desktop?
[04:58] <mattfletcher> rambo3: top gives: Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   160372k cached
[04:58] <LjL> !edgy | VrilutZa
[04:58] <blazemonger> for some odd reason ubuntu runs very sluggish compared to debian
[04:58] <tarin> so i looked around and i found out that i need drivers for my radeon X800 in order to run ubuntu. all i'm finding though is "r300_dri.so" and I have no idea what to do with it.
[04:58] <ubotu> VrilutZa: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[04:58] <mattfletcher> rambo3: plus i spotted some errors as it booted
[04:58] <blazemonger> i dont see why ubuntu would be slugggish
[04:58] <tarin> bear with me guys
[04:58] <royel> !dapper | VrilutZa
[04:58] <ubotu> VrilutZa: dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[04:58] <rambo3> mattfletcher, that doesn't mean that it is not working
[04:59] <mzuverink> can anyone point me to a simple setup how to on setting up a mailserver?
[04:59] <rambo3> mattfletcher, what errors on boot
[04:59] <geem> i loaded ubuntu on two machines well i wound up locking myself out of the first one, when i was trying to get apache configured
[04:59] <xypruso> modemmmmmmmmm
[04:59] <mzuverink> I am overwhelmed by all I find
[04:59] <VrilutZa> it's posibil to download source to recompile?
[04:59] <xtknight> VrilutZa: yes
[04:59] <LjL> VrilutZa: download source for what to recompile what?
[04:59] <VrilutZa> kernel
[04:59] <LjL> !kernel > VrilutZa    (VrilutZa, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:59] <royel> mzuverink: try howtoforge.org
[04:59] <xtknight> absolutely, common process
[05:00] <blazemonger> is there a way to speed up ubuntu?
[05:00] <VrilutZa> oki thanks I love ubuntu
[05:00] <VrilutZa> :)
[05:00] <mzuverink> royel, thanks will do that
[05:00] <mattfletcher> rambo3: well the machine was busy and it used all 512M of real RAM, then promptly hung, the load average went to 20+. where can i find logs of the boot errors?
[05:00] <AdamBerg> is there a channel i could get support with wine help?
[05:01] <geem> i am getting lots of work out of ubuntu thats for sure
[05:01] <geem> #AAA
[05:01] <rambo3> mattfletcher, machine wont work directly  on HD . it saves pages in VM and whem needed for work puts them back in MEM
[05:01] <geem> jk
[05:01] <xtknight> lol
[05:02] <rambo3> mattfletcher, anyway if you think its not working use " sudo mkswap /dev/??? && sudo swapon /dev/???  ". but i dont think thats the problem
[05:04] <mattfletcher> rambo3: the swap is not working. i am sure of it. dmesg | gre pswap gives Unable to find swap-space signature
[05:05] <mattfletcher> rambo3: cat /proc/swaps gives nothing
[05:05] <kenthomson> Help! Help! My house is one fire!...though you can't send fire-extinguishers through TCP/IP....ok, its not that serious, may i ask a question?
[05:05] <mattfletcher> rambo3: sudo swapon -a gives "swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2e9a7cac-e30e-446c-a337-14f29b69e4f9: Invalid argument"
[05:05] <fabio_> please....anyone can help me with suspend?
[05:06] <blazemonger> like what background tasks could take up so much processing time in ubuntu
[05:06] <koregaonpark> Is it possible to play .flv files on Ubuntu?
[05:06] <koregaonpark> I've downloaded a bunch, and I want to watch them.
[05:07] <eric__> !ipv6
[05:07] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:07] <blazemonger> er4z0r:ipv6 isp rob what'staking up thep rocessing?
[05:07] <mattfletcher> rambo3: the mkswap, swapon solved it, thanks
[05:07] <rambo3> mattfletcher, that looks wierd
[05:07] <xtknight> koregaonpark: where did you get flv files?
[05:07] <rambo3> mattfletcher, ok then
[05:08] <xtknight> koregaonpark: probably off a flash site right?  couldn't you just use their player for flv?
[05:08] <blazemonger> i have ipv6 enabled on my debian box and it's not sluggish
[05:08] <koregaonpark> xtknight, off YouTube.
[05:08] <xtknight> koregaonpark: ahh so youtube saves flv file?
[05:08] <xtknight> koregaonpark: i think flv uses vp6 codec.  mplayer should be able to handle it
[05:08] <xtknight> koregaonpark: or mplayer svn perhaps
[05:08] <koregaonpark>  xtknight, I've saved them on my computer and wanna play them back. Yeah, VideoDownloader downloads YouTube vids as .flvs.
[05:09] <koregaonpark> xtknight, I'll give Mplayer a try.
[05:09] <koregaonpark> xtknight, amazingly VLC can't play them! I was really surprised.
[05:09] <blazemonger> ubuntu is on a good start but just not therre yet
[05:09] <apollo2011> How do I put a program in the system startup so that it will execute with root privileges?
[05:10] <variant> koregaonpark: there is a extension to firefox that gets avi's
[05:10] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, i think it's "there", unlike Vista, which is nowhere....
[05:10] <kenthomson> I need a widescreen 1440x900 (16:10), GFXBOOT THEME. I can't find it anywhere on the internet, can someone point me to a source?
[05:10] <xtknight> koregaonpark: what do you mean by vista is nowhere?
[05:10] <koregaonpark> variant, I still have all these .flvs that I don't wanna convert.
[05:10] <koregaonpark> xtknight, the DRM... it's MESSED UP.
[05:10] <rambo3> !ot
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <xtknight> #offtopic | xtknight
[05:10] <blazemonger> what's "there" ?
[05:11] <xtknight> :)
[05:11] <LjL> !ot is <alias> offtopic
[05:11] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[05:11] <variant> xtknight: vista is a chrome plated turd imo
[05:11] <xtknight> ok #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <koregaonpark> xtknight, listen to Security Now (http://www.grc.com/). I agree with variant, Vista is nothing more than crap made to look pretty.
[05:12] <variant> whereas ubuntu is a chrome plated gem :)
[05:12] <phyberoptik> heh @ grc
[05:12] <mattfletcher> Vista: Looks, Locks, Lacks
[05:13] <koregaonpark> nice anecdote, mattfletcher. variant, yes, ubuntu with Beryl is a chrome plated gem
[05:14] <blazemonger> i'm going to give ubuntu another chance
[05:14] <koregaonpark> other than for games, I see no use for Windows any more.... and as games slowly move off the PC and onto consoles, and the older ones start getting emulated, Windows is dead.
[05:14] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, I really really think you should.
[05:14] <blazemonger> koregaonpark:well i have older hardware
[05:14] <blazemonger> p4
[05:14] <xtknight> linux works best on old hw
[05:14] <bsnider> where would the log file for module-assistant be?
[05:14] <Where|here> blazemonger: I used to run Linux on a Pentium 4
[05:15] <blazemonger> and r128 768 megz of memory and the times i've ran Ubuntu it always runs sluggish/slow
[05:15] <Where|here> worked like a charm :)
[05:15] <xtknight> blazemonger: maybe because you didn't use dri
[05:15] <blazemonger> but Debian/Blag/etc. run fast
[05:15] <blazemonger> dri was enabled
[05:15] <Where|here> blazemonger: did you allocate enough swap?
[05:15] <xtknight> blazemonger: did you try xubuntu?
[05:15] <blazemonger> i need gnome/kde
[05:15] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, i'm using a P4 at the moment with Ubuntu Edgy. the only problem i've found is that the Edgy boot screen (splash or w/e) slows down the boot process tremendously, so i've deactivated it.
[05:15] <DDS> guys anyone know how to play those .EVO (HD-DVD) files ?
[05:15] <blazemonger> gnome/kde run fast in debian but in ubuntu it's sluggish
[05:16] <xtknight> DDS: mplayer will support them soon
[05:16] <xtknight> as far as i know at least, i heard talk about them on the mailing-list
[05:16] <sable> When I try to open a program with wine, I get this error: fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x33fc34) stub!
[05:16] <xtknight> blazemonger: i know what you mean.  debian does seem faster.  older versions of gtk/qt i think
[05:16] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, not only am I using GNOME, I'm also using Beryl.
[05:16] <blazemonger> this is debian sid
[05:17] <xtknight> sable: it's not an error, it's a stub.  the process is checking if it's running under xp 64 ibt, that error can safely be ignored
[05:17] <blazemonger> youre using Beryl on a ati rage 128!?!?!?!?!?
[05:17] <DDS> xtknight:  thx , can you tell me a link ,where i can read how to configure  MPlayer cuz am having troubles?
[05:17] <xtknight> sable: wine has a lot of stubs (unimplemented functions).  those functions just return zero always as far as i know
[05:17] <rambo3> sable its reporting about unimplemented/handled event
[05:17] <LMNT_OX> hey all
[05:17] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, i'm using Beryl with my on-board Intel graphics card! and it works superbly.
[05:17] <sable> xtknight: it doesn't run the program, it jsut gives me that and thats it
[05:17] <blazemonger> how old is it koregaonpark?
[05:17] <xtknight> DDS: mplayer does not support them yet.  a future version may but i can't confirm
[05:17] <LMNT_OX> i need help with setting up ubuntu to dual boot with windows
[05:17] <blazemonger> koregaonpark:ok i'll give it another chance
[05:18] <koregaonpark> how old is what, blazemonger?
[05:18] <xtknight> sable: probably the program isn't supported then.  youll have to read on winehq about compatibility
[05:18] <blazemonger> if i can't get it to run as stable as debian sid i'll have to go back to debian
[05:18] <sable> xtknight: I know that it does work, it's callede Eve-online, and a lot of people use wine with it
[05:18] <LMNT_OX> ne 1 know what i'd have too do???
[05:18] <xtknight> sable: wine is rather tricky.  i'm afraid i can't help.  try a wine irc channel
[05:18] <kenthomson> Where do i find widescreen GFXBOOT themes?
[05:18] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, the good thing about ubuntu is that a lot of stuff works out of the box.....
[05:18] <sable> LMNT: if possible, install windows, then linux, and it should work fine
[05:18] <DDS> xtknight:  yes i understood that. I was asking other thing , but nevermind thanks again
[05:18] <sable> xtknight: Kk, thanks
[05:19] <xtknight> sable: i'm not sure they'd be able to help either though... check for HOWTOs on how to get that app running and how to configure wine for it (winedlloverrides etc)
[05:19] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, debian is great, but i'm not sure i'm savvy enough to install it....
[05:19] <blazemonger> koregaonpark:well ive had bad experience with ubuntu :(
[05:19] <Laibsch> !irda
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <blazemonger> like alot of packages not working
[05:19] <Laibsch> !infrared
[05:19] <xtknight> sable: there are about a billion different errors wine could report and they have no idea how to fix it unless they have a complete register dump and know the context of ur pc etc
[05:19] <blazemonger> conflicts
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <LjL> !msg the bot | Laibsch
[05:19] <ubotu> Laibsch: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:19] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, the only bad experience ive had is with the splash/boot screen. give it another try.....
[05:19] <dou213> hey guys i'm interested in linux PDAs... does any1 of u have such things? can i play ubuntu on these devices? or other distros?
[05:19] <LjL> Laibsch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[05:19] <rambo3> !Lirc > Laibsch
[05:20] <LMNT_OX> sable windows is installed...
[05:20] <LjL> !irda is <reply> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[05:20] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[05:20] <Laibsch> thanks, guys.
[05:20] <Nesco> there's no way to install shockwave, right?
[05:20] <geem> u guys hear of ncomoputers
[05:20] <LjL> Laibsch: and good luck
[05:20] <LMNT_OX> i am downloading ubuntu as we speak
[05:20] <sable> LMT: and what happens when you install linux on a different partition?
[05:20] <geem> laptops with no hdd's
[05:20] <xtknight> Nesco: shockwave?  i don't know... you can install flash
[05:20] <geem> that run nix
[05:20] <xtknight> what is shockwave anyway
[05:20] <LMNT_OX> i don't know how to partition
[05:20] <geem> the install takes u thru it
[05:21] <xtknight> if you have one HD you don't use, just let the ubuntu installer pick partitions
[05:21] <sable> the ubuntu install comes with a built in partitioner.  Just select "set up partitions manually" and create 2 other partitions, 1 for swap, and 1 for /
[05:21] <LMNT_OX> oic
[05:21] <sable> set them as ext3 and the ninstall linux to there
[05:21] <LMNT_OX> okee
[05:21] <tib> hello , ive got a problem with 3D acceleration , ive got an ATI radeon x1600 , can anybody help me ?
[05:21] <Nesco> @xtknight: Macromedia Shockwave.. it's pretty close to flash I think..I do have Flash installed but shockwave games don't work for me
[05:21] <LMNT_OX> thanks and does MIRC work on ubuntu?>????
[05:21] <sable> How do I check the version of nvidia drivers I have installed? I installed the newest ones, but I don't know if I did it right, so I want to check to be sure
[05:22] <xtknight> Nesco: i dont know,, check adobe (macromedia)'s site
[05:22] <sable> LMNT: No, but there are some good IRC clients for linux.  Currently I use Chatzilla, a add-on for firefox
[05:22] <bsnider> can someone who knows about rebuilding modules take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5751/
[05:22] <xtknight> LMNT_OX: no but xchat and gaim do.  mirc may work through wine but unlesss you use mirc scripts there's no point
[05:23] <xtknight> bsnider: i dont know but it looks like a problem with the code (can you provide some context on your situation?)
[05:23] <Syco> Hi guys, I've just downloaded and burnt Ubuntu (two different cd's, different brands + different burners) but when I goto boot from the CD it starts going (shows splash screen) and sort of sits on the splash for ages and ages then it crashes to a terminal type screen with lots of error messages such as "hda: cdrom+pc+intr: the drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01).  I've been googleing for an hour or so and can't find anything. Any ideas?
[05:23] <koregaonpark> hey, xtknight, mplayer doesnt play back my flvs!
[05:24] <xtknight> Syco: jmicron controller or  core 2 duo motherboard by any chance?
[05:24] <kenthomson> WHERE DO I FIND A WIDESCREEN GFXBOOT THEME
[05:24] <xtknight> koregaonpark: odd.  i dont know man, google it
[05:24] <Syco> not sure, it's a MSI board
[05:24] <Syco> not core 2 duo
[05:24] <koregaonpark> xtknight, lol, i did. before i asked here.
[05:24] <tanascar> Is there a way to automatically rescan and reinstall the network drivers from a command line? I have a ubuntu install with no xserver and no net access.  Just shows the loopback.
[05:24] <xtknight> kenthomson: once you stop using caps it magically appears :)
[05:24] <xtknight> kenthomson: make one?
[05:24] <ucordes> the SD-card in my mobile phone which is connected by usb cable stoppt working with write access. it is only mounting ro. what can be the reasons for this? (it is not the phone i think because there is no setting for this in it)
[05:24] <zoli2k> My SATA disk worked well with gentoo. Now I isntalled Ubuntu server 6.06 and SATA hangs during the boot with messages like: "command 0x25 timeout" "translated ATA stat/err"
[05:24] <zoli2k> any ideas?
[05:24] <kenthomson> xtknight, a response only magically appeared after i used caps
[05:25] <xtknight> lol
[05:25] <kenthomson> xtknight, before this no-one even CARED to reply
[05:25] <xtknight> i would have replied even if you didn't
[05:25] <Syco> xtknight: No, I don't have a core 2 duo motherboard.. Not sure about the controller... It's a MSI mainboard
[05:25] <rambo3> kenthomson, google
[05:25] <kenthomson> xtknight, so where would i get one
[05:25] <kleinLohmi> is it possible to listen to mp3s with rythmbox while playing counter-strike?
[05:25] <kenthomson> rambo3, genius, eureka! you deserve a Pultizer or Noble or some GODDAMN prize or a whack from my mother
[05:26] <blazemonger> ano9ther problem ive had in ubuntu is my mouse cursor fades to all black
[05:26] <rambo3> kenthomson, gfxboot is port from suse . you won't find themse here
[05:26] <rpereira> Hey, everybody!
[05:26] <blazemonger> and i've searched 5 hours straight and tried a billion things to fix that
[05:26] <blazemonger> and yet no luck
[05:26] <alecjw> Syco, did you verify the integrity of the iamge or downlaod it with bittorrent?
[05:26] <koregaonpark> hey, does anyone know if it's possible to play back FLVs in Ubuntu?
[05:27] <rpereira> Does someone knows how to install an Intel 537 Winmodem on Ubuntu?
[05:27] <xtknight> !flv
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <kenthomson> rambo3, i was expecting something a little strong in your reply though :)
[05:27] <Syco> I downloaded via HTTP and I checked the Md5Sum
[05:27] <Syco> checked out fine
[05:27] <kleinLohmi> koregaonpark: use the vlc player
[05:27] <kenthomson> rambo3, i tried google
[05:27] <tanascar> Is there a way to automatically rescan and reinstall the network drivers from a command line? I have a ubuntu install with no xserver and no net access.  Just shows the loopback.
[05:27] <Syco> sorry,
[05:27] <kenthomson> i CANT FIND ONE :(
[05:27] <koregaonpark> kleinLohmi, I tried, doesn't work.
[05:27] <rpereira> I found the info for Hoary/breezy. But I need to know using for Edgy.
[05:27] <Syco> alecjw, I downloaded it via HTTP and I checked the Md5Sum and it checked out fine (just staying it again as I forgot to address you sorry heh)
[05:28] <alecjw> !caps kenthomson
[05:28] <ubotu> caps: C* Audio Plugin Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-1 (edgy), package size 184 kB, installed size 404 kB
[05:28] <kenthomson> alecjw, :)
[05:28] <alecjw> doh
[05:28] <kenthomson> HA HA HA
[05:28] <alecjw> i forgot the pop
[05:28] <alecjw> *pipe
[05:28] <kenthomson> WHATS WRONG WITH CAPS
[05:29] <koregaonpark> OMG, seriously... does no one know of a way to play FLV files on Ubuntu?! VLC works on OS X.... not on Ubuntu.
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[05:29] <Hmmmm> anyone tried configuring evolution to work with google apps mail?
[05:29] <alecjw> kenthomson, they are anooyhtign and rude.
[05:29] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, VLC works on ubuntu
[05:29] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:29] <koregaonpark> kenthomson, not with me....
[05:29] <koregaonpark> I have VLC
[05:29] <koregaonpark> Hmmmm, yep.
[05:29] <Hmmmm> koregaonpark, i cant quite get it to work
[05:29] <alecjw> kenthomson, sorry. i cant type anttrf=annoying
[05:29] <koregaonpark> Hmmmm, just use the default settings...
[05:30] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, to play .flv files you need the proprietary flash plugin;
[05:30] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, Do you have flash plugin in firefox installed
[05:30] <koregaonpark> kenthomson, oh okay! how do i get it?
[05:30] <koregaonpark> kenthomson, let me check.
[05:30] <kenthomson> !flash | koregaonpark
[05:30] <ubotu> koregaonpark: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:30] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:30] <tanascar> Is there a way to automatically rescan and reinstall the network drivers from a command line? I have a ubuntu install with no xserver and no net access.  Just shows the loopback.
[05:31] <Hmmmm> koregaonpark, what do i put for pop mail:: pop.gmail.com
[05:31] <ircusr> hi all
[05:31] <kleinLohmi> is it possible to listen to mp3s with rythmbox while playing counter-strike?
[05:31] <ircusr> i think so
[05:31] <xtknight> kleinLohmi: should be
[05:31] <kleinLohmi> ...
[05:31] <Yeseax_> kleinLohmi, sorry, are u german?^^
[05:31] <kleinLohmi> yes
[05:31] <Yeseax_> may i qry u?
[05:31] <alecjw> Syco, hmm...... thats a very strange problem... i cant help you i'm afraid. sorry
[05:31] <koregaonpark> Hmmmm, sorry, kind of in the middle of this flash thing...
[05:31] <bsnider> xtknight: i am trying to rebuild ivtv drivers
[05:31] <kleinLohmi> yes
[05:32] <kenthomson> kleinLohmi,  tanascar, if people don't know the answer to your question; pasting it again and again in the hope that someone notices it is futile, it will only agravate your situation; go to google or ubuntuforums.org, and search otherwise make a thread there
[05:32] <Hmmmm> koregaonpark, okay, but you've done it is it?
[05:32] <blazemonger> koregaonpark: if i give ubuntu another chance would you be my linux mentor?
[05:32] <pumpkinhea1> does anyone know why networking would not be starting up with the system load? i can do it manually with /etc/init.d/networking
[05:32] <kleinLohmi> thank you
[05:32] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, you got flash installed
[05:32] <koregaonpark> blazemonger, i'm a n00b
[05:32] <bsnider> xtknight: as per the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=345655
[05:32] <xtknight> bsnider: ok, what for?  where did you get the new ivtv drivers
[05:32] <koregaonpark> kenthomson, just a minute
[05:32] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, go to add/remove software and install the firefox flash plugin from there, if you are a n00b
[05:32] <alecjw> Hmmmm, am i right in assumign that you're tryign to set up gmai lwith evolution?
[05:33] <kenthomson> alecjw, just look at that sentence :)
[05:33] <koregaonpark> kenthomson, okay, i have flash-plugin-nonfree installed
[05:33] <xtknight> bsnider: maybe that new driver requires a new kernel also
[05:33] <Hmmmm> alecjw, im trying to setup my google apps mail account, actually
[05:33] <alecjw> Hmmmm, this might be useful: http://alecjw.googlepages.com/configureevolutionwithgooglemail
[05:33] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, good now open firefox, and go to "about:plugins" (put it in address bar) Do you see the flash plugin there?
[05:33] <Hmmmm> alecjw, thanks... checing
[05:33] <Hmmmm> er, checking
[05:33] <bsnider> xtknight: i have the newest feisty kernel
[05:34] <kenthomson> alecjw, whats the best bet if i want to make Internet free voice calls?
[05:34] <xtknight> bsnider: do the drivers support your kernel?  they look like they're for edgy
[05:34] <koregaonpark> kenthoomson, i do not
[05:34] <alecjw> kenthomson, i dont know, sorry
[05:34] <koregaonpark> kenthomson....
[05:34] <pumpkinhea1> akiga is included in uu
[05:34] <pumpkinhea1> #ee
[05:34] <xtknight> bsnider: try downloading a vanilla source from ivtv instead of the edgy repo
[05:34] <pumpkinhea1> ekiga is a voip client
[05:34] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, you installed flash and re-started firefox?
[05:34] <Hmmmm> alecjw, question: pop.googlemail.com:995 is for UK? or internatinal?
[05:34] <koregaonpark> oh wait... i think i need to restart, kenthomson
[05:35] <Ruidoso_Silencio> hello, I'm having this X error: Xsession: warning: Unable to write to /tmp; X session may exit with an error
[05:35] <alecjw> Hmmmm, international
[05:35] <pumpkinhea1> anyone know about networking initialization problems?
[05:35] <Hmmmm> alecjw, ok. and u think it might work with gapps?
[05:35] <Ruidoso_Silencio> any help?
[05:35] <alecjw> Hmmmm, gapps? whats that?
[05:35] <koregaonpark> kenthomson, flash is still no installed
[05:35] <xtknight> Ruidoso_Silencio: any free space on your drive?
[05:35] <koregaonpark> how do i install flash 9, kenthomson?
[05:36] <arromeo> Hello.
[05:36] <rfx> irc.mindforge.org
[05:36] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, Go to firefox>open and select your .flv file and see if it plays in firefox
[05:36] <kenthomson> koregaonpark, search the forums, its got a nice tutorial there
[05:36] <koregaonpark> kenthomson, okay... will do, thanks
[05:36] <unop> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:36] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:36] <Hmmmm> alecjw, got it. thank you so very much !!!
[05:37] <kenthomson> WIDESCREEN GFXBOOT THEME anyone?
[05:37] <arromeo> Firefox should have a bar pop up allowing you to install it using the browser front end.
[05:37] <arromeo> Right?
[05:37] <unop> !flash9
[05:37] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:37] <Hmmmm> alecjw, i meant google apps
[05:38] <blazemonger> i don't trust backports
[05:38] <zzz_> !backports
[05:38] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:38] <pumpkinhea1> !networking
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <zzz_> !network
[05:38] <RoboSheep> speaking of Flash anyone have an idea how long until the 64 bit release?  I know it's been in development since Nov.
[05:38] <LMNT_OX> so another question, after the partitions and what not are set up, when i boot the comp will it give me the option on what os to start
[05:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:38] <Ruidoso_Silencio> xtknight: that was it thanx
[05:38] <zzz_> RoboSheep: a project named Gnash will fix that problem
[05:38] <OpsVentus> anyone know the status of 7.04?
[05:39] <bsnider> xtknight: the repository has packages for feisty's 2.6.19 kernel
[05:39] <xtknight> RoboSheep: no idea, use nspluginwrapper with 32bit flash on 64bit firefox till then
[05:39] <soundray> !feisty | OpsVentus
[05:39] <ubotu> OpsVentus: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <alecjw> kenthomson, please could you stop using all caps? it's annoying and rude
[05:39] <bsnider> xtknight: i am currently using 2.6.20
[05:39] <LMNT_OX> so another question, after the partitions and what not are set up, when i boot the comp will it give me the option on what os to start
[05:39] <xtknight> bsnider: feisty is 2.6.20 by now isnt it?
[05:39] <zzz_> xtknight: correct.
[05:40] <soundray> xtknight: the kernel version in feisty, yes
[05:40] <xtknight> bsnider: if you look on here it says 2.6.19 ONLY http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page
[05:40] <blazemonger> what's feisty?
[05:40] <soundray> blazemonger: ^^ (ubotu)
[05:40] <xtknight> blazemonger: look up a couple lines in irc
[05:40] <RaverDK> a release name of ubuntu
[05:40] <zoli2k> how can I install ubuntu desktop on ubuntu server? ubuntu-desktop package is missing after installation
[05:40] <royel> !feisty | blazemonger
[05:40] <ubotu> blazemonger: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <zoli2k> verstion 6.06
[05:40] <tanascar> Can someone help me.. I need help getting my network card working...
[05:41] <soundray> !repos | zoli2k
[05:41] <ubotu> zoli2k: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:41] <blazemonger> there's alot of things that froze up when i tried ubuntu
[05:41] <riotkittie> such as?
[05:41] <zoli2k> soundray: Ok, I will check out. thx
[05:42] <blazemonger> my hardware is normal too a simple p4 motherboard agp ati rage 128 768 mb of memory and ubuntu runs slower than even XP
[05:42] <pumpkinhea1> tanascar i'm working on this too. here's a page i'm looking at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkDevices
[05:42] <soundray> zoli2k: pay special attention to the advice regarding editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <bsnider> there isn't even a 2.6.19 in the repository
[05:43] <xtknight> bsnider: 2.6.19 kernel image in feisty repos you mean?
[05:43] <bsnider> xtknight: yes
[05:43] <xtknight> bsnider: try ivtv svn maybe it supports 2.6.20
[05:43] <bsnider> i'm looking
[05:43] <zoli2k> soundray: this is why I asking the IRC, I am little bit affraid, I want to allow on the server only packages  supported by ubuntu.
[05:44] <bumiii> Hi, i have the network 10.0.1.0/16 and i want to allow users in that network to access the server on 10.0.2.1. The problem is that the network 10.0.2.0/16 is behind the gateway (10.0.1.1), what shall i do to link them together so clients trying to find 10.0.2.1 is going thru 10.0.1.1?
[05:44] <tanascar> pumpkinhea1: My installation got messed up and I need to have ubuntu reinstall my card again.. I don't know where the config file is or how to set it up.
[05:44] <bumiii> 10.0.1.0/16 = br0
[05:44] <bumiii> 10.0.2.0/16 = tap0
[05:45] <soundray> zoli2k: to be able to install ubuntu-desktop, all you have to enable is 'main'
[05:45] <pumpkinhea1> tanascar this is the only thing that is working for me right now: running /etc/init.d/networking restart in a root terminal manually after startup. you can try it.
[05:45] <bsnider> guuuuhhhh looks like i'm using windows for awhile
[05:45] <blazemonger> me too bsnider
[05:45] <kinjo> hello all i have the same problem as this guy http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336761&highlight=audacity
[05:45] <blazemonger> i can't afford xp
[05:46] <iratik> argh!~ i just need something to drop in - and let me pass it a couple of ports to leave open to "*" everyone .. except for ftp and ssh which i want to limit to certain ip / subnets    - i've tried arnos-iptables-subnet .. (for which there was no package for dapper and had to install lengthly) and firehol ... i just don't know what to do anymore .. isn't there a command i can just run to make this happen and cat it out to init.
[05:46] <iratik> d ?
[05:46] <xtknight> bsnider: ivtv 0.9.2 probably isn't far away
[05:46] <bsnider> 10 rc1 still only supports 2.6.19
[05:46] <bsnider> i guess i could compile it myself
[05:47] <bsnider> but aren't the odd numbered ones unstable?
[05:47] <xtknight> bsnider: compile 2.6.19 yourself?
[05:47] <bsnider> ye
[05:47] <xtknight> bsnider: no, only odd major releases.  2.5.xx is unstable.  2.6.yy is always stable
[05:47] <zoli2k> soundray: Ok I see. I was a little bit surprised that on ubuntu forums somebody supposed to enable multiverse and universe repos.
[05:47] <blazemonger> if debian sid isn't stable then why do the ubuntu people choose debian unstable?
[05:47] <sable> How do I know which version of NVIDIA drivers I have installed
[05:47] <LjL> xtknight, not anymore
[05:47] <bsnider> well i suppose that's an option
[05:47] <LjL> xtknight: the even/odd scheme is deprecated
[05:48] <blazemonger> wouldn't they use something like stable?
[05:48] <xtknight> LjL: hmm so what's the deal?  everything's stable now?
[05:48] <blazemonger> or is ubuntu trying to be bleeding edge?
[05:48] <soundray> zoli2k: the packages in 'main' have the best support, but in stable releases, you shouldn't have any problems with packages from universe and multiverse, either.
[05:48] <pumpkinhea1> sable type nvidia into synaptic. but if you haven't installed your own, you have the generic ones.
[05:49] <xtknight> bsnider: ill try and compile it on my 2.6.20 kernel
[05:49] <zoli2k> soundray: Thank you soundray.
[05:49] <bsnider> compile what, IVTV?
[05:49] <soundray> blazemonger: the definition of 'stable' and 'unstable' varies between people and distributions.
[05:49] <xtknight> bsnider: yeah
[05:49] <kinjo> could some one help me with this       http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336761&highlight=audacity
[05:49] <bsnider> it's not going to work, there are too many differences
[05:49] <LjL> xtknight: don't really know what the current scheme is
[05:50] <xtknight> bsnider: perhaps i can screw around with it and get it to work somehow
[05:50] <iratik> anyone?
[05:50] <yeniklasor> Hi, how can I try my "C" code? Is there any program for launch it?
[05:50] <bsnider> xtknight: the thing is, the driver almost works, it's just that the sound is horribly distorted
[05:50] <soundray> blazemonger: ubuntu is trying to be rock-solid stable in major releases
[05:50] <xtknight> yeniklasor: gcc asdf.c && ./a.out
[05:50] <bsnider> xtknight: there is an ivtv installed here, but it has that problem
[05:50] <xtknight> bsnider: ivtv in 2.6.20 kernel tree you mean?
[05:51] <xtknight> bsnider: ivtv is a builtin driver isnt it?
[05:51] <LMNT_OX> are there any music production programs for ubuntu such like fruity loops??????
[05:51] <bsnider> xtknight:  apparently so
[05:51] <mindstate> LMNT_OX: none that are good
[05:51] <xtknight> LMNT_OX: 'sweep', perhaps
[05:51] <LMNT_OX> thats unfortunate....
[05:51] <bsnider> xtknight: but the stie for IVTV packages for feisty lists them as built against 2.6.19, which feisty doesn't have, which is extremely bizarre
[05:51] <xtknight> LMNT_OX: sorry, i mean Jokosher
[05:51] <LMNT_OX> 'sweep' do u have a dl url???
[05:51] <yeniklasor> xtknigt : said sh: pause: not found
[05:52] <mindstate> LMNT_OX: i cant even find a decent multitrack recording program
[05:52] <Syco> I just tried booting ANOTHER burn .. still not working, still getting "hda: cdrom_pc_int: the drive appears confused.
[05:52] <Syco> are the JMicron controllers on-board type or are they expansion card types?
[05:52] <xtknight> bsnider: feisty used to have it.  they update at a fast pace
[05:52] <yeniklasor> gcc '/home/yeniklasor/Desktop/dongu.c' && ./a.out
[05:52] <LMNT_OX> i use garage band on mac
[05:52] <xtknight> Syco: onboard
[05:52] <xtknight> yeniklasor: incorrect syntax
[05:52] <Syco> I have an MSI mainboard and the DVD drive is plugged in via IDE not SATA
[05:52] <LMNT_OX> jokosher?????
[05:52] <Syco> could I still have one?
[05:52] <bsnider> xtknight:  but why wouldn't it be there as an option?
[05:52] <xtknight> yeniklasor: gcc -o dongu /home/yeniklasor/Desktop/dongu.c && ./dongu
[05:52] <xtknight> yeniklasor: that should work
[05:52] <kinjo> could some one help me with this       http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336761&highlight=audacity
[05:53] <Syco> is there an easy way to tell?  my computer is wedged in somewhere that'll take a lot of effort to get out to open
[05:53] <LMNT_OX> xtnight: du know a dl site for that
[05:53] <royel> LMNT_OX: just type sweep into synaptic, or apt-get install sweep
[05:53] <xtknight> LMNT_OX: google dude
[05:53] <xtknight> first result!
[05:53] <xtknight> :)
[05:53] <LMNT_OX> heheh im tired
[05:53] <Syco> I was under the impression the only onboard "raid" I have is SATA .. the CDrom is IDE so... I'm confused heh
[05:53] <LMNT_OX> 44hrs up.....
[05:53] <sable> I installed my own pumpkin
[05:54] <pumpkinhea1> sable ok i really can't help you i'm no expert
[05:54] <xtknight> Syco: jmicron would be listed in lspci
[05:54] <xtknight> bsnider: i dont know, they just got rid of the old kenrel
[05:54] <blazemonger> well folks i'm gonna give Ubuntu another chance
[05:55] <Syco> lspci? where's that? heh
[05:55] <blazemonger> i'll take tips on speeding it up
[05:55] <LMNT_OX> any synth or drum machine????
[05:55] <Syco> I'm running windows atm
[05:55] <iratik> dmsg
[05:55] <xtknight> Syco: run something like 'pc wizard' then
[05:55] <Syco> I can't even get the Ubuntu CD to boot to install it
[05:55] <yeniklasor> xtknight: I used this in my C program,            system ("pause"); Maybe this wrong?
[05:55] <blazemonger> hopefully it will run faster  than it did the last time i tried it
[05:55] <xtknight> yeniklasor: probably
[05:55] <xtknight> yeniklasor: get the errors.  type "gcc -W -Wall myfile.c"
[05:55] <hardcampa> haha
[05:55] <Syco> xtknight, ok thanks, I'll have a look for it
[05:56] <hardcampa> system pause.. really overdoing it
[05:56] <yeniklasor> what can take for system pause
[05:56] <yeniklasor> ok
[05:56] <soundray> kinjo: still here?
[05:57] <xtknight> bsnider:     * Device Drivers -> Multimedia devices -> Video For Linux -> Video Capture Adapters -> Autoselect pertinent encoders/decoders and other helper chips (CONFIG_VIDEO_HELPER_CHIPS_AUTO)
[05:57] <xtknight> [edit] 
[05:57] <hitammanis> hello
[05:57] <xtknight> bsnider: maybe that's the problem.  my .20 kernel has it on
[05:57] <kinjo> soundray, yep...
[05:57] <kinjo> soundray, still waiting :(
[05:57] <xtknight> yeniklasor: if you have c problems goto ##c
[05:57] <hardcampa> yeniklasor: type man 3 sleep
[05:57] <yeniklasor>  warning: return type defaults to 'int'
[05:58] <soundray> kinjo: check if all these packages report as installed: "dpkg -l xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable"
[05:58] <yeniklasor> is it irc room?
[05:58] <hitammanis> I use ubuntu 6.10 Edgy, are there any PDF Editor out there for it?
[05:58] <xtknight> yeniklasor: yes
[05:58] <yeniklasor> ok thanks for help
[05:58] <fxr> hi i have a couple questions about virtualisation technologies.. i have just gottrn my hands on a cheap pentium D with no VT extensions...
[05:58] <xtknight> i may be able to help you there ;)
[05:58] <fxr>  i plan to buy a later model pentium D in the nest week or so... am i ok to move ahead and install ubuntu etc.. or shhould i hold off and wait til my hardware setup is finished?
[05:58] <pumpkinhea1> hita pdf is adobe property if there were it would be illegal
[05:58] <bsnider> xtknight:where are you looking?
[05:58] <yeniklasor> ok :)
[05:58] <xtknight> fxr: vt extensions now aren't even worth it
[05:58] <fxr> also i notice feisty has kvm built into it.. maybe i should just jump to feisty?
[05:59] <kinjo> soundray, how me new to ubuntu and linux as a whole...
[05:59] <soundray> pumpkinhea1: that is wrong
[05:59] <xtknight> fxr: unless you want to run windows under xen, vt is pointless now.  waitll they get newer CPUs with faster VT as it's slower than software atm
[05:59] <blazemonger> last time i ran ubuntu ( few weeks ago) it was extremely slow even on a pentium 4 with 768 megabytes of SDRAM
[05:59] <royel> !pdf | hitammanis
[05:59] <ubotu> hitammanis: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[05:59] <blazemonger> and a ati rage 128 all in wonder with 32 mb
[05:59] <soundray> kinjo: do you know how to open a terminal?
[05:59] <xtknight> bsnider: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto#Kernel_configuration_specifics
[05:59] <kinjo> soundray, yep...
[05:59] <blazemonger> why would ubuntu be slow on my system?
[05:59] <ucordes> !glibc
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <xtknight> yeniklasor: type /join ##c
[05:59] <ucordes> !glibc_2
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc_2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <hitammanis> royel: I can view them with no problems, I just need to editor them
[06:00] <soundray> kinjo: enter the dpkg command above -- everything between the quotes
[06:00] <blazemonger> every mouse click was like loading something into an 8-bit Atari-400 from a Tape!
[06:00] <tib> whats the command's name for "traceroute" it doesnt work i type it :/
[06:00] <pumpkinhea1> soundray he said editor not viewer
[06:00] <hardcampa> tib you need to install it
[06:00] <xtknight> tib: tracepath maybe.  sudo apt-get install traceroute  too
[06:00] <soundray> tib: tracepath
[06:00] <yeniklasor> ok I'm there
[06:00] <tib> thanks ;)
[06:00] <kinjo> soundray, done want me paste the output on pastebin?
[06:00] <fxr> oh really... xtknight..? thats fantastic.. just what i needed to know.. i wanna run 64bit OSs.. i should be able to find virtualisation software which will allow me to do this?
[06:00] <soundray> pumpkinhea1: you are still wrong
[06:00] <soundray> kinjo: no
[06:00] <blazemonger> should i have built a custom kernel?
[06:00] <blazemonger> or something like that
[06:00] <hitammanis> thanks, anywhere
[06:00] <xtknight> fxr: i'm running xp 64 on linux 64 with vmware
[06:00] <hitammanis> thanks, anyway
[06:01] <soundray> kinjo: just tell me whether the last four lines all start with 'ii'
[06:01] <bsnider> xtknight: how do i disable that option?
[06:01] <pumpkinhea1> ok enlighten me i would love to edit pdf
[06:01] <kinjo> soundray, yes...
[06:01] <xtknight> bsnider: in kernel config when you compile a kernel
[06:01] <fxr> ok nice one, hows the performance & may ask what CPU you have in there? xtknight
[06:01] <xtknight> fxr: intel core 2 duo e6300 with VT (although vmware does not use it).  i've tried everything that supports VT, always slower than vmware
[06:02] <bsnider> xtknight: well, if i have to compile one, i mgiht as well compile 2.6.19
[06:02] <xtknight> fxr: great performance with vmware
[06:02] <soundray> kinjo: now we know it's not the fontpackage's fault
[06:02] <xtknight> fxr: kvm is OK but mouse movement is sluggish
[06:02] <blazemonger> i thought linux was supposed to be fast and have lower hardware requirements
[06:02] <Simpleton> is it possible to resize a linux partition without deleting everything on it
[06:02] <soundray> !flpsed | pumpkinhea1
[06:02] <xtknight> blazemonger: not really
[06:02] <ubotu> pumpkinhea1: flpsed: a WYSIWYG pseudo PostScript editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 124 kB
[06:02] <xtknight> blazemonger: well not gnome
[06:02] <bsnider> xtknight: is thre a good set of instructions for that somewhere?
[06:02] <xtknight> bsnider: instructions?
[06:02] <blazemonger> gnome is fast on Debian but extremely slow on Ubuntu
[06:02] <xtknight> bsnider: well vmware is not free unfortunately
[06:02] <bsnider> xtknight: for compiling a kernel
[06:03] <xtknight> bsnider: sorry, got nicknames confused
[06:03] <blazemonger> i want to know why if ubuntu is based on debian why it would run like a atari 8 bit
[06:03] <fxr> perfect xtknight... ll hold of on the CPU then.. brillant few lines of info there... much appreciated.... : )
[06:03] <Syco> OK, it seems I don't have this JMicron raid controller on board
[06:03] <soundray> blazemonger: consider the possibility that something is wrong with your installation, and not with ubuntu.
[06:03] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, because Ubuntu installs far more stuff (one could ray "random junk") by default
[06:03] <SlimG> Does Intel 2200BG WLAN MiniPCI work with nonCentrino CPU's?
[06:03] <xtknight> bsnider: this is what i always use, great tutorial http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D311158&ei=5EDTRZ5JgriLAfS-oKcF&usg=__CMJUwv_EOMXusVIgx08GGlKyGZ0=&sig2=oBe7z2eJ8kmOABxDdQK46w
[06:03] <Syco> apparantly my hdd contollers are integrated in the intel ICH5 chipset?
[06:03] <xtknight> bsnider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 rather
[06:03] <HymnToLife> just look at the disk usage after a fres Ubuntu install
[06:03] <Syco> this is my mainboard : http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=865PE_Neo3-F
[06:03] <mindstate> how do i upgrade to the newest version of GTK?
[06:04] <soundray> blazemonger: use 'top' to see whether something is hogging your CPU
[06:04] <xtknight> Syco: sorry, i'm really not sure then
[06:04] <Syco> damn, nor is google :(
[06:04] <Syco> the cd boots fine on my gf's machine
[06:04] <soundray> mindstate: 'sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0'
[06:04] <Syco> gah, why is it every time I goto install/setup a linux veriant it screws up? haha
[06:04] <mindstate> soundray: isnt 2.8 the newest version
[06:04] <blazemonger> !top
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <kiwii> if I have amd64 x2, can I install ubuntu for x86 ? 64 cd installation freezes at logo screen
[06:05] <SlimG> Does Intel 2200BG WLAN MiniPCI work with nonCentrino CPU's?
[06:05] <soundray> mindstate: no, not for ubuntu.
[06:05] <fxr> yes kiwii u can
[06:05] <HymnToLife> SlimG, Centrino is not a CPU
[06:05] <blazemonger> i didnt know about that command!
[06:05] <blazemonger> woah
[06:05] <blazemonger> interesting
[06:05] <mindstate> soundray: i've got a program that depends on the newest version of gtk...does that mean i cant use it?
[06:06] <blazemonger> i took a unix class and they never showed me that command
[06:06] <kinjo> soundray, i am using edgy eft but had the same problem with drapper drake....
[06:06] <kiwii> fxr: what special thing have amd 64 edition that normal x86 doesnt have ?
[06:06] <SlimG> HymnToLife: Intel CPU's that is a member of the Centrino platform
[06:06] <HymnToLife> support for 64 bit CPU instructions
[06:06] <HymnToLife> SlimG, phey're mot often Pentium M's, fyi ;)
[06:06] <kiwii> and 6.10 x86 installation cant see my apple keyboard ( keyboard with 2 usb ) ;(
[06:07] <HymnToLife> but yes, I think the wifi card alone would work on another platform
[06:07] <soundray> mindstate: no, it doesn't mean that. You can always compile or backport a library. What are you installing, anyway?
[06:07] <noodles12> in my programming class, i use make to compile c++ files. how do include classes ?
[06:07] <kiwii> HymnToLife: but to change to 64 version, do i have to change kernel only ?
[06:07] <soundray> kiwii: no, all the binaries are different
[06:07] <mindstate> soundray: trying to install Sweep ..it depends on a bunch of stuff i dont have
[06:08] <HymnToLife> kiwii, I don't think so, you'll also have to change all your binaries to 64bit ones
[06:08] <HymnToLife> which is equivalent to a reinstall :p
[06:08] <xtknight> noodles12: well make uses a Makefile
[06:08] <soundray> mindstate: 'sudo apt-get install sweep' will automatically take care of the dependencies.
[06:08] <kiwii> hmm too bad, that 64 bit installion doesnt work for me ;/ ok  i will try with normal one
[06:08] <mindstate> soundray: lol im so stupid thanks
[06:09] <soundray> kinjo: did you upgrade from dapper to edgy or reinstall?
[06:09] <xtknight> noodles12: if you want gcc to link files, just add them to gcc's command line
[06:09] <kinjo> soundray, reinstall
[06:09] <noodles12> xtknight: oh.. ? to compile hello.cpp i ust do make hello and then ./hello . is that makefile automatic?
[06:09] <HymnToLife> noodles12, no, just use gcc
[06:09] <xtknight> noodles12: probably windows right?  i dont know...  this is how it should be done: g++ -o hello hello.cpp   && ./hello
[06:09] <HymnToLife> to use make, you need a makefile
[06:09] <HymnToLife> which doesn't make sense anyway, for  single file
[06:10] <SlimG> Does anyone have a PC with AMD CPU and a Intel 2200BG miniPCI WLAN card that works?
[06:10] <HymnToLife> a*
[06:10] <soundray> SlimG: is this a survey?
[06:10] <noodles12> xtknight: ubuntu.
[06:10] <xtknight> noodles12: no but you used make on windows probably.. there's no command to make one file on linux at least
[06:10] <SlimG> soundray: yes, i need to know if amd cpu will work with 2200bg wlan minipci
[06:10] <blazemonger> so with ubuntu i can make gnome as fast as it is in Debian?
[06:10] <xtknight> noodles12: try the g++ cmd above
[06:11] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, I doubt it
[06:11] <kiwii> great thing, in grub I can use my keyboard and mose, but when X windows start all my USB ports are dead, and my mouse and keyboard dont work
[06:11] <DaRkGoN> nas
[06:11] <blazemonger> tyet i have a FAST system a pentium 4 1.4 ghz with 768 megabytes of memory and 32 mb of video memory
[06:12] <soundray> SlimG: don't ask an "anyone" question then. The question is 'Will a PC with AMD CPU and 2200bg wlan minipci work with Ubuntu?' The answer is "Yes, very probably".
[06:12] <noodles12> xtknight: yea that worked too
[06:12] <saftsack_> hi, where to find the autofs log, if i cannot find it in syslog and messages?
[06:12] <Minuo> Is it possible to disable the emergency temperature power down?  I just got one in error.
[06:12] <blazemonger> or is a 3d card required for ubuntu?
[06:12] <DaRkGoN> a ver si alguien puede ayudarme... llevo varios dias con ubuntu y no consigo ke a 1024x768 kreo ke es se vean las fuentes legibles... las veo muy difuminadas, borrosas o relativamente pekeas
[06:12] <veronica> ola
[06:12] <DaRkGoN> ola veronica
[06:12] <Actium> http://www.degredo.net/
[06:13] <DaRkGoN> alguien puede ayudarme?
[06:13] <noodles12> xtknight: so to include classes hwo would i add them to the gcc?
[06:13] <xtknight> noodles12: g++ for C++.  g++ -o hello ./hello.cpp ./class1.cpp ./class2.cpp ./class3.cpp
[06:14] <soundray> kinjo: I have another idea, but it's a bit involved.
[06:14] <SlimG> soundray: If I ask like that, the only answer i get is: "Sure, i guess so", that's why i ask if a*yone actually has this combination.
[06:14] <kinjo> soundray, i am game for anythin....:)
[06:14] <pumpkinhea1> darkgon algiuen a la channel espanol?
[06:15] <xtknight> !es | DaRkGoN
[06:15] <ubotu> DaRkGoN: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:15] <kiwii> does ubuntu support dual core ?
[06:15] <xtknight> kiwii: yes
[06:15] <Minuo> sorry if anyone answered my question about disabling critical temperature shutdown, my IRC client was being unhappy and I didn't get any messages back
[06:15] <soundray> SlimG: well, that's inappropriate, because this is a support channel, and not one for private polls. Why are you concerned about this combination, anyway?
[06:15] <whacko> I installed edgy to my sandisk u3 1Gb usb, using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent. but my system failed to boot. Any help please??
[06:15] <hitammanis> hello again
[06:16] <kiwii> how big is your swap partition ?
[06:16] <noodles12> xtknight: thanks a lot man.
[06:16] <tarin> hello everyone
[06:16] <hitammanis> Question: How can I change or move my /var/www/ folder to a different location?
[06:17] <soundray> kinjo: run xmms from a terminal like this: 'strace xmms 2>xmms-tracelog'. Bring up the menu, then terminate xmms. After that, you can examine xmms-tracelog for signs of files not found ("ENOENT" stuff). Pay particular attention to font files.
[06:17] <xtknight> hitammanis: well you'd have to point apache to the new location, or symlink /var/www to something else
[06:17] <dtrump> hello
[06:18] <kinjo> soundray, ok 1 min...
[06:18] <Math^> hello, I was wondering: does a Canon Pixma MP1030/110 work with Ubuntu?
[06:18] <Minuo> Does anyone know what could cause the message 'Critical temperature reached (-264 C), shutting down?  I can assure you that my processor is not currently swimming in liquid nitrogen...
[06:18] <hitammanis> xtknight: Thanks, I'm a newbie, what the syntax for that.
[06:18] <soundray> kinjo: feel free to put the tracelog on the pastebin, although it might balk
[06:18] <soundray> !pastebin | kinjo
[06:18] <ubotu> kinjo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <Lunar_Lamp> hitammanis, you can configure your apache to look at somewhere else in /etc/apache2/ in the config files, or do you mean copy the folder?
[06:19] <soundray> Math^: Pixma printers tend to not work, unless you buy a driver from Turboprint. This may change in feisty. Still, go for an HP printer if you can -- better support.
[06:19] <xtknight> hitammanis: sudo ln -s /new/folder /var/www   if you want to link /var/www/ to somewhere else, although that doesn't do much good anyway.
[06:19] <SlimG> soundray: I've been telling people who use broadcom wlan that the easy way is to buy&install the 2200BG, but one of them complains that the 2200BG doesn't work with his AMD based laptop.
[06:19] <xtknight> hitammanis: you should edit httpd.conf if you really want to change the location
[06:19] <kinjo> ok...
[06:20] <DaRkGoN> hola, alguien que hable espaol y pueda ayudarme?
[06:20] <xtknight> !es | DaRkGoN
[06:20] <hitammanis> Lunar_Lamp: I mean instead of place my web file in /var/www/ I can put them some place else and it still work
[06:20] <ubotu> DaRkGoN: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:20] <soundray> SlimG: now *that's* an interesting question. Have you got any details on how it fails?
[06:20] <DaRkGoN> gracias
[06:20] <soundray> SlimG: is there any indication that it's really an adverse interaction between the CPU and the card?
[06:21] <kiwii> If i have 3 primary partitions I cant delete, can I install linux ( i need 2 partitions, for system and swap )
[06:21] <Lunar_Lamp> hitammanis, you need to edit your configuration in /etc/apache2/ there are several configuration files in there, httpd.conf may be the correct one, I can't remember offhand.
[06:21] <Math^> soundray: So then I cant convince my neighbour... :(
[06:21] <Math^> he only prints/scans, surfs and mails in Windows
[06:22] <soundray> Math^: so the question is for your neighbour whether to install ubuntu?
[06:22] <hitammanis> Where is the httpd.conf located
[06:22] <sable> When I try to patch wine, I get this: ~/wine-0.9.24$ patch -pl <eve-2006-10-20.diff
[06:22] <Minuo> hitammanis:  The location of your webroot will be defined in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[06:22] <sable> patch: **** strip count l is not a number
[06:22] <sable> Any Ideas how to fix?
[06:22] <Math^> soundray: yes
[06:22] <blazemonger> so it's not likely ill be able to get ubunto to run fast even on a p4 1.4ghz with 768mb of memory and a crappy video card?
[06:22] <hitammanis> thanks
[06:22] <tarin> I was having trouble with the graphical aspect of running ubuntu (because i have a X800 card) so I asked around and someone told me to hit crtl-alt-f1 in order to configure my video settings. I was in the menu and I got to the part when it asks about color depth. i selected an option and the command line appears and it say that im overwriting a possibly custom file "etc/X11/xorg.conf" and I...
[06:22] <tarin> ...dont know where to go from there...
[06:22] <Math^> soundray: he will stay at windows when he cant use he's printer/scanner :/
[06:22] <soundray> Math^: give me a second
 Math^: Pixma printers tend to not work, unless you buy a driver from Turboprint. This may change in feisty. Still, go for an HP printer if you can -- better support. <== Personal experience says some pixma printers CAN be made to work, but mine couldn't, so I bought a cheap HP laser printer.
[06:22] <mindstate> blazemonger: i ran ubuntu on a crappy video card lol
[06:23] <Minuo> Lunar_Lamp:  They're not using httpd.conf in the default ubuntu installs anymore, it's /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*, with the default in 000-default
[06:23] <blazemonger> ubuntu always crashes on me too
[06:23] <Lunar_Lamp> Minuo, ah ok, I haven't used a webserver running on ubuntu for ages :-)
[06:23] <blazemonger> well ubuntu itself i i don't use it wont crash but if i try to use it it freezes the mouse cursor changes colors, programs lock up the system
[06:24] <bsnider> how is ntfs write support coming along?
[06:24] <SlimG> soundray: After inserting the 2200BG the BIOS says there's a device inserted that isn't supported by the CPU and has to be removed. (It doesn't say what laptop it is)
[06:24] <soundray> Math^: feisty will support printing on various Pixma and Multipass printers, but I can't find that specific model number listed. Turboprint is always an option.
[06:24] <kinjo> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5769/
[06:24] <Minuo> Lunar_Lamp: No problem, just letting you know
[06:24] <lolman> !ntfs-3g | bsnider
[06:24] <ubotu> bsnider: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:24] <danny> hi, was here yesterday.. My Problem is still unsolved. Have a 3Com 3c905C which works fine with windows at 100Mbit and full duplex... with ubuntu ist is only 10Mbit! neither ethtool nor mii-tool works. How can I set up the nic to full speed?
[06:24] <Math^> soundray: thnx :)
[06:24] <mindstate> bsnider: i write to my ntfs drive everyday using ntfs3g. no problems
[06:25] <kinjo> soundray, tried to make sense of the log but failed to do so...:(
[06:25] <Math^> well he's gona take a look tonight here
[06:25] <Math^> so I'll convince him ;)
[06:25] <bsnider> mindstate: cool. vista's ext3 support results in a BSOD
[06:25] <blazemonger> if ubuntu can get it's stability fixed it will be a great distro
[06:25] <xtknight> bsnider: use explore2fs or virtual volumes..they work for me
[06:25] <Math^> i hope so :0
[06:25] <Math^> :)
[06:25] <xtknight> bsnider: even in vista 64 bit
[06:25] <bsnider> xtknight: in vista?
[06:26] <xtknight> bsnider: but you need to run explore2fs under XP SP2 compatiblity options.  then it works under vista64
[06:26] <soundray> SlimG: I have a laptop that will check the PCI ID against a BIOS-internal database and only run with specific mini PCI cards -- all of them wired Ethernet ones. I don't think it matters for compatibility whether the CPU is AMD or Intel.
[06:26] <kiwii> do i have to install linux on primary partition or it can be on extended ?
[06:26] <bsnider> xtknight: i don't have 64bit
[06:26] <xtknight> cpu shouldn't matter for any reason.  it's always a chipset or mobo problem
[06:26] <xtknight> all the cpu does it run instructions
[06:26] <xtknight> bsnider: it should run under vista32 too
[06:27] <Luis07> how do I blank a DVDRW?
[06:27] <xtknight> Luis07: gnome baker or k3b
[06:27] <kinjo> soundray, did u make any sense of the log?
[06:28] <soundray> kinjo: give me couple of minutes pls
[06:28] <Luis07> xtknight, in K3b, when I 'select' format, it says the disc is already formatted... so nothing can be done
[06:28] <denni> anyone here have experience with nvidia mcp51 high definition sound?
[06:28] <unop> kiwii,  it's ideal to keep the /boot partition on a primary, preferably closer to the beginning of the drive
[06:28] <SlimG> soundray: what laptop modell you've got? is there many models with this feature, or is it restricted to one laptop producer?
[06:28] <bsnider> xtknight: doesn't write to ext3 though
[06:28] <kinjo> soundray, kk ...
[06:28] <xtknight> bsnider: http://www.chrysocome.net/virtualvolumes
[06:28] <bsnider> xtknight: the idea is to have a partition that all OSs can use as "my documents"
[06:28] <Math^> soundray: were can I see wich printer-models will be in the feisty release?
[06:29] <xtknight> bsnider: if you want that you can always use vfat.  but virtual volumes should write ext3 under vista if you use the proper compat options
[06:29] <blazemonger> woah someone i know who has a machine even faster than mine a 1.8 ghz machine with a gigabyte of memroy ubuntu ran slow and unstable too
[06:29] <xtknight> Luis07: odd..no idea
[06:29] <sable> My internet keeps going down every 5 minutes, and I have to reactivate my wireless card in order to get it working again, any ideas how to fix
[06:29] <xtknight> sable: poor signal strength?
[06:29] <blazemonger> i've found at least 50 bugs in ubuntu
[06:29] <soundray> Math^: install feisty and you'll see it in the Add Printer dialog ;)
[06:29] <xtknight> blazemonger: good.  have you reported them?
[06:29] <blazemonger> in a day's period of time
[06:29] <Math^> soundray: ok, ill try in vmware
[06:30] <FrenKy> hi all,
[06:30] <sable> xtknight: no, it's good, and the other computers stay connected.  THis just started happening today
[06:30] <blazemonger> they've already been reported
[06:30] <xtknight> blazemonger: fifty?  wow that's quite a bit
[06:30] <blazemonger> mayube its cuz ubuntu is based off debian sid
[06:30] <sable> blazemonger: why troll?
[06:30] <blazemonger> yah..like.progs not running
[06:30] <blazemonger> after installing them
[06:30] <soundray> Math^: all to check compatibility? Good luck ;)
[06:30] <FrenKy> I've messed up my gnome config :) Is someone willing to share /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom??
[06:30] <blazemonger> its like there's all this software thats in the repo that doesn't even work
[06:30] <xtknight> blazemonger: example?
[06:31] <sable> I can Frenky
[06:31] <soundray> SlimG: this was an old IBM Thinkpad 240.
[06:31] <FrenKy> sable: Thanks! I'm running edgy if it makes any difference...
[06:31] <blazemonger> or stuff that's not even completed
[06:31] <xtknight> blazemonger: also link to launchpad report
[06:31] <sable> Frenky: I don't know, I'm using dapper
[06:31] <zoli2k> I installed ubuntu-desktop and on the center of the screen is a 100x100 pixel map with random pixels. Any ideas?
[06:31] <sable> Frenky: what's your email?
[06:32] <blazemonger> even simple stuff such as my gnome pannels freezing causing me to reboot
[06:32] <FrenKy> frenky.nn at gmail dot com
[06:32] <Biovore> zoli2k: probably something to do with the graphics card setup and monitor
[06:32] <FrenKy> :-D
[06:32] <xtknight> FrenKy, sable: why not pastebin it?
[06:32] <FrenKy> ok, works for me
[06:32] <sable> xt: I have no idea what pastebin is
[06:32] <xtknight> !pastebin | sable
[06:32] <ubotu> sable: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <JONES3700> used easyubuntu to install sun-java and other stuff, accidentally closed terminal; and now: E: The package sun-java5-jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[06:32] <sable> oh
[06:32] <sable> k
[06:33] <xtknight> JONES3700: maybe in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:33] <JONES3700> so how can i fix this
[06:33] <JONES3700> ok
[06:33] <blazemonger> my graphics card works just fine in windows
[06:33] <blazemonger> and debian sid even
[06:33] <zoli2k> Biovore: probably. It is an integrated Intel card with i810 driver.
[06:33] <whacko> hello everyone, i have some prob installing edgy in 1Gb usb. any help?
[06:33] <blazemonger> but ubuntu is the one distro that is the slowest of them all
[06:33] <soundray> kinjo: this is a wild guess -- it could be a locales problem. Try to set a different locale for the session at the gdm/kdm login.
[06:34] <blazemonger> maybe you have to have a top of the line pc to use gnome in ubuntu
[06:34] <sable> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5772/
[06:34] <lolman> blazemonger: if you don't like Ubuntu, naff off to another distro's channel :)
[06:34] <kinjo> soundray, eh ?
[06:34] <danny> hi, was here yesterday.. My Problem is still unsolved. Have a 3Com 3c905C which works fine with windows at 100Mbit and full duplex... with ubuntu ist is only 10Mbit! neither ethtool nor mii-tool works. How can I set up the nic to full speed?
[06:34] <blazemonger> i love ubuntu lolman
[06:34] <lolman> Well why have you only complained about it?
[06:34] <blazemonger> i WANT to be able to actually use it instead of spending hours and hours trying to get things working
[06:34] <whacko> i follwed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[06:34] <soundray> blazemonger: this is a support channel, not a slag-off-ubuntu channel. If you want help, you've got to try the suggestions that you read here.
[06:34] <whacko> any1 else tried it?
[06:34] <blazemonger> because i want to be able to use ubuntu
[06:34] <anthony_> hi, how to I disable an nvidia driver from the console
[06:35] <kinjo> soundray, you want me to try to start xmms from another user?
[06:35] <xtknight> FrenKy: sable posted his gdm conf above
[06:35] <soundray> anthony_: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', set nv instead of nvidia
[06:35] <blazemonger> what kind of setups do you folks have that have no probs with ubuntu?
[06:35] <FrenKy> sable: thanks, are you sure this is not /etc/gdm/gdm.conf? I want /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[06:35] <FrenKy> Wondering...
[06:35] <anthony_> 10x
[06:36] <deb_user> what does "Error in MD5 checksums: " mean, in the context of trying to create a deb package?
[06:36] <soundray> kinjo: no, you can use the same user, but you have to logout, change the session preferences at the login screen, and log in again.
[06:36] <sable> err, oops
[06:36] <sable> 1 sec Frenky
[06:36] <FrenKy> np :) Thanks
[06:36] <kinjo> soundray, change it to what?
[06:36] <danny> hi, was here yesterday.. My Problem is still unsolved. Have a 3Com 3c905C which works fine with windows at 100Mbit and full duplex... with ubuntu ist is only 10Mbit! neither ethtool nor mii-tool works. How can I set up the nic to full speed?
[06:36] <royel> blazemonger: how will that help you correct a problem you have?
[06:36] <xtknight> FrenKy: do you need gdm.conf-custom for Beryl or just regular gnome?
[06:36] <knight> hi where can I get a good download manager which can resume downloads?
[06:36] <FrenKy> no regular
[06:36] <xtknight> knight: wget -c  is pretty nice actually
[06:37] <FrenKy> regular. beril is what got me here :)
[06:37] <blazemonger> royel:well maybe ubuntu has certain requirements for it to run th packages in the repos properly
[06:37] <sable> Frenky: that is my custom one
[06:37] <sable> the non-custom one has a lot more in it
[06:37] <soundray> kinjo: to something else that's installed on your system. Try each locale in turn, if there aren't too many.
[06:37] <aoirthoir> I LUV UBUNTU!
[06:37] <aoirthoir> Just thought yall would like to know that.
[06:37] <blazemonger> like only 10% of the software i've grabbed off the repos won't even run
[06:37] <blazemonger> i meant 90%
[06:37] <aoirthoir> all the software I get runs no prob
[06:37] <FrenKy> sable: Strange... How does the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf looks like?
[06:37] <kinjo> soundray, :( didnt understand what u ment ...
[06:37] <blazemonger> aoirthoir: what kind of setup you have?
[06:38] <blazemonger> is it faster than a p4 1.4ghz?
[06:38] <royel> blazemonger: I run a AMD 1400 with 2gigs of ram on my server
[06:38] <knight> xtknight: thanks ill try it
[06:38] <Lynoure> blazemonger: That sounds extremely unusual.
[06:38] <aoirthoir> blaze i have a compaq/hp nw8240 laptop with 80gig/2gig ive got edgy eft with Beryl
[06:38] <blazemonger> my amiga 500 has more stable stuff than linux+windows
[06:38] <MarcN> blazemonger: what packages are giving you problems.
[06:38] <FrenKy> found it :)
[06:38] <FrenKy> http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/
[06:38] <xtknight> knight: i rarely need to pause/continue downloads, i just use command line "wget-c url" when i do.  not sure of any gui download managers...firefox might resume
[06:38] <FrenKy> [servers] 
[06:38] <FrenKy> 0=Xgl
[06:38] <FrenKy> [server-Xgl] 
[06:38] <FrenKy> name=Xgl server
[06:38] <FrenKy> command=/usr/bin/Xgl :0 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo
[06:38] <FrenKy> flexible=true
[06:38] <MarcN> aoirthoir: my compaq/hp nc6000 laptop works great with beryl too
[06:38] <royel> blazemonger: which ubuntu did you use, Edgy, Dapper or the new Feisty?
[06:39] <blazemonger> Lynoure:: torcs, flightgear, billard-gl (it runs it windows), rosegarden , tk707
[06:39] <xtknight> !pastebin | FrenKy
[06:39] <ubotu> FrenKy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:39] <FrenKy> no..
[06:39] <aoirthoir> Blaze i imagine amiga is pretty stable ..are they still updating it?
[06:39] <noodles12> blazemonger: i've had it on a p3 w/ 3xx mb of rAM and it worked fine. just a little slow >.<. but all the prog.s from the repos worked
[06:39] <FrenKy> that is for open GL...
[06:39] <blazemonger> billard-gl locks up my ystem
[06:39] <knight> hey can firefox resume downloads?
[06:39] <FrenKy> Arrgh..
[06:39] <aoirthoir> MarcN: yeah I dig beryl! it rocks
[06:39] <sable> Frenky: same link as before, they are both combined in the same post, so just scroll halfway down and you'll see it
[06:39] <soundray> kinjo: do you know what I mean when I say login screen?
[06:39] <blazemonger> really noodles12?
[06:39] <blazemonger> mm
[06:39] <atomiku> Hey peoples
[06:39] <Soulless> knight: I don't think it does
[06:39] <blazemonger> maybe linux just hates me
[06:39] <kinjo> Soulless, yes...
[06:39] <royel> !enter | blazemonger
[06:39] <ubotu> blazemonger: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:39] <kinjo> soundray, yes...
[06:39] <xtknight> knight: may be able to get a more reliable response in #firefox
[06:39] <manoliaf> hola
[06:40] <MarcN> aoirthoir: oh, and the occasional X server crash...
[06:40] <manoliaf> g
[06:40] <kinjo> soundray, do u want me to change the option?
[06:40] <noodles12> blazemonger: yea. i needed more ram, but your problem with the programs not working is odd.
[06:40] <soundray> kinjo: okay, log out and you'll get to it. There aren't that many session settings to configure. You will see what I mean.
[06:40] <blazemonger> then there's dependencies that uninstall alot of stuff when i install certain packages, etc.
[06:40] <aoirthoir> MarcN: yeah beryl does cause some freezes..but ubuntu boots so fast on my system I can live with it until it is more stable.
[06:40] <blazemonger> then things just don't run
[06:40] <soundray> blazemonger: you are spamming, please stop it now
[06:40] <kinjo> soundray, ok me brb..
[06:41] <Jesse> The installer/live cd doesn't even boot up for me.. any ideas specs: amd x2 4600+ 2042 ram, ati x800, asus a8n-slideluxe ?
[06:41] <manoliaf> i90p
[06:41] <MarcN> aoirthoir: well my issue is the lost work...  I turn it off when I'm working.
[06:41] <VrilutZa> how to test my monitor to maxim resolution and refresh?
[06:41] <xtknight> blazemonger: you still haven't given me one example or a launchpad report to bugs you say esit
[06:41] <aoirthoir> blazemonger: dependencies should not be uninstalling stuff..and they dont..first off you havent answered which version are you running? and what are your system specs?
[06:41] <chrisjw_> I always ask this question but anyway I'll ask it again because no one seems to be able to know the answer.. I want to use tahoma with aMSN, I've already copied the fonts from windows into my fonts directory.. KVirc is using tahoma, so does my desktop.. I've also installed the msttf core fonts.. they're visible to aMSN but not tahoma
[06:41] <chrisjw_> any ideas?
[06:41] <Soulless> Jesse: where did U get UR live CD from?
[06:41] <aoirthoir> MarcN: gotcha...if I did anything graphics intensive i might turn it off also. Currently I am just doing some php scripting with mysql stored procedures..so I save a lot and fast..just a habbit.
[06:41] <Jesse> I downloaded it and burned it
[06:42] <Jesse> from one of the ubuntu mirrors
[06:42] <Jesse> its version 6.10 if that helps
[06:42] <royel> chrisjw_: install them with your user?
[06:42] <chrisjw_> what do you mean install them with my user
[06:42] <royel> chrisjw_: or install them as a system font, so everyone has access to them
[06:42] <chrisjw_> I copied the tahoma.ttf to my fonts directory as root
[06:42] <blazemonger> running edgy ft..system specs: p4 1.4 ghz 768 megabytes of SDRAM, ati rage 128 with 32 megabytes of video memory with tv out (which i've never been able to get it working, a bios where i can't disable acpi
[06:42] <aoirthoir> Jesses did you run an md5 check on the iso to make sure it came through correctly?
[06:42] <Jesse> also when I check the cd for errors it says that everything is fine
[06:43] <soundray> !fonts | chrisjw_
[06:43] <ubotu> chrisjw_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[06:43] <Soulless> Jesse: Did 6.06LTS work?
[06:43] <Jesse> err that there are no errors rather
[06:43] <sacater> chrisjw: then root owns them and you cant access them, run chown <username> <item>
[06:43] <Jesse> I haven't tried installing 6.06 but I've been having the same problem with other linux distros
[06:43] <MarcN> aoirthoir: I'm ssh'ing to remote systems.  Using screen over there helps, but loose the train of thought...
[06:43] <blazemonger> do you folks only use servers or something?
[06:43] <Soulless> Jesse: It may be UR laptop. Have U got UR BIOS set to boot from CD
[06:43] <JONES3700> uh
[06:43] <Jesse> Yes. And I'm on a desktop
[06:44] <kinjo> soundray, no use :(
[06:44] <CheshireViking> when ubuntu starts up, i get this error in the /var/log/fsck "There are differences between boot sector and its backup.Differences: (offset:original/backup)", how can I fix it
[06:44] <JONES3700> xtknight: found the archive, can't access it - what to do? sorry, i suck at this
[06:44] <aoirthoir> MarcN: ive got the developement stuff and databases on my laptop..but copy things to the live system as they work..naturally the server does not have beryl running
[06:44] <Minuo> I have an interesting problem - every so often my computer tells me that the emergency temperature threshold (-264 C) has been reached and the computer is shutting down.  How do I disable emergency temperature shutdown, since that is obviously a glitch?
[06:44] <soundray> blazemonger: nobody except you experiences the trouble you describe with Gnome. It is specific to your setup
[06:44] <blazemonger> even the commodore 64 emulator vice won't run.
[06:44] <kinjo> soundray, logged in using gnome session...
[06:44] <Soulless> Jesse: Does *anything* run on the desktop PC? If not then it might be a hardware problem
[06:44] <Jesse> windows xp runs
[06:44] <blazemonger> soundray:it can't be mysetup...
[06:44] <petal> I'm panicing a little: I just changed my icon-theme in Gnome, the session crashed & now I don't have a desktop anymore -> No Wallpaper & no icons on it & no right-click menu... Any help?
[06:44] <royel> blazemonger: which ubuntu did you use, Edgy, Dapper or the new Feisty?
[06:45] <blazemonger> i used edgy then i tried dapper
[06:45] <Soulless> Jesse: That's odd.
[06:45] <posingaspopular> !x
[06:45] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:45] <soundray> kinjo: you need to change the locale to test my suggestion
[06:45] <royel> blazemonger: LiveCD's?
[06:45] <blazemonger> the wierd thing is these same packages run perfect in debian
[06:45] <blazemonger> sid
[06:45] <MarcN> aoirthoir: today I'm setting up a dns, dhcpd, tftp to pxe boot and install some RHEL4 systems in our lab ~20 miles away.  Yeah, Ubuntu/EDgy on my desktop.
[06:45] <Jesse> yeah, I think it might have something to do with the processor... because a bunch of other people who have been trying to isntall other distros have been saying that they've had problems with their amd x2 4600 or higher
[06:45] <blazemonger> i used the LiveCDs
[06:46] <kinjo> soundray, how do i do that?
[06:46] <Jesse> at first I got an error that said hardware error: processor 0 4bank4, so I typed acpi=off
[06:46] <soundray> blazemonger: the fact that sid works *proves* that it's your setup
[06:46] <Soulless> Jesse: Ah, A 64bit processor?
[06:46] <soundray> kinjo: sorry, I have already told you that.
[06:46] <Jesse> and it would then load up one of the other distros installers but it would not boot afterwards
[06:46] <Jesse> yeah
[06:46] <blazemonger> how could it be my setup then?
[06:46] <blazemonger> i don't understand how? Ithought linux was linux.
[06:46] <aglet> I'm trying to automount /home (not /home/*, /home) -- anyone else do this and want to share their /etc/auto.master?
[06:46] <Jesse> but I even run into the same problem with the 64 bit distros that I have
[06:46] <soundray> blazemonger: you have misconfigured something in ubuntu, or something is hogging your CPU.
[06:46] <Soulless> Jesse: Try a 32 bit version.
[06:47] <kinjo> soundray, well i went to option and changed the session....
[06:47] <blazemonger> and i've verified the drivers..but for some reason Ubuntu has something in it that doesn't like my setup.  Maybe I should try compiling a custom kernel?
[06:47] <soundray> kinjo: I said locales
[06:47] <Jesse> alright thanks
[06:47] <royel> blazemonger: perhaps you would do better with one of the alternate CD installs..
[06:47] <kinjo> soundray, there was no option like that...
[06:47] <blazemonger> which alternate cd installs?
[06:47] <Soulless> Jesse: No probs. I think the 64bit versions may have some slight issues, AFAIK
[06:47] <soundray> !alternate | blazemonger
[06:47] <ubotu> blazemonger: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:47] <blazemonger> i want to use ubuntu..what kind of hardware do i need?
[06:48] <royel> blazemonger: scroll down the page a ways, http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[06:48] <chrisjw_> ok still not working
[06:48] <blazemonger> is there a alternate cd for edgy?
[06:48] <chrisjw_> added tahoma.ttf to /usr/share/fonts
[06:48] <royel> blazemonger: yes
[06:48] <soundray> blazemonger: yes
[06:48] <chrisjw_> restarted X and restarted aMSN
[06:48] <chrisjw_> still no tahoma
[06:49] <soundray> chrisjw_: where did you put the ttf file?
[06:49] <chrisjw_> usr/share/fonts
[06:49] <chrisjw_> usr/local/share/fonts
[06:49] <chrisjw_> home/chrisw69/.fonts
[06:49] <chrisjw_> lol
[06:49] <blazemonger> gonnna try that folks
[06:49] <chrisjw_> my other applications can see tahoma
[06:49] <chrisjw_> like this one
[06:49] <chrisjw_> xchat, etc etc
[06:49] <royel> blazemonger: good luck
[06:49] <chrisjw_> but not aMSN
[06:49] <SlimG> soundray: Better late than never, thanks for your help with the 2200BG issue, I think you're right regarding this beeing a specific BIOS problem, not CPU. thanx again!
[06:50] <chrisjw_> it can see the msttf core fonts, i've already installed them
[06:50] <blazemonger> will this alternate cd install gnome?
[06:50] <soundray> chrisjw_: it's probably showing you monospaced fonts only.
[06:50] <royel> blazemonger: it can yes.
[06:50] <soundray> blazemonger: only if you tell it to explicitly
[06:51] <chrisjw_> verdana isn't monospaced
[06:51] <chrisjw_> it can see that
[06:51] <xtknight> JONES3700: sudo dpkg -i <asdf.deb>
[06:51] <chrisjw_> i've also recached the font cache
[06:51] <chrisjw_> sudo fc-cache -f -v
[06:51] <soundray> chrisjw_: something wrong with the permissions on the ttf?
[06:52] <chrisjw_> hmm!!
[06:52] <chrisjw_> i'll try that
[06:52] <mindstate> !qemu
[06:52] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:53] <chrisjw_> ok all tahoma fonts are 777
[06:53] <soundray> mindstate: '/msg ubotu qemu'
[06:53] <blazemonger> royel:i didn't know that ubuntu  wouldn't run on configurations that other distros run fine on
[06:53] <mindstate> soundray: sorry lol
[06:54] <soundray> blazemonger: ubuntu runs as well as any other distribution on modern PCs
[06:54] <chrisjw_> fc-cache: "/usr/share/fonts": caching, 2 fonts, 3 dirs
[06:54] <chrisjw_> the OS can see tahoma
[06:54] <chrisjw_> it's just damn amsn that can't and i like using tahoma on msn messenger
[06:54] <blazemonger> Soulless: isn't a pentium 4 1.4 ghz modern enough?
[06:55] <soundray> blazemonger: I'm telling you, it's your setup
[06:55] <shiv> Plz see this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136604#c1 It says status resolved. Where do I find the resolution?
[06:55] <noodles12> blazemonger: i had it running on a p3 dell optiplex gx110
[06:55] <blazemonger> how can it be my setup? if  other distros run fine?
[06:55] <Soulless> blazemonger: I'm not sure. butI would think so, depending on what load UR putting on it.
[06:55] <anthony_> soundray: my friend attempted to install xgl on ubuntu as stated in the www.ubuntuguide.org, but after invoking thefuture only the fornt windows could be accessed, after a restart the GUI fails to load
[06:55] <soundray> blazemonger: your ubuntu setup
[06:55] <gre1> how do i get ubuntu to play mp3s in firefox?
[06:55] <LjL> !away > goldeagle_away    (goldeagle_away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:56] <anthony_> and the following message is displayed "failed to start XServer (Graphical Interface), it is likely that it is not set up correctly"
[06:56] <blazemonger> so youre saying my PC is broken?
[06:56] <soundray> anthony_: xgl experts are in
[06:56] <soundray> anthony_: xgl experts are in #ubuntu-effects
[06:56] <unop> shiv,  sounds like a question to be asked in #kde
[06:56] <anthony_> 10x..
[06:56] <soundray> blazemonger: no, I'm saying your personal individual local ubuntu installation is broken
[06:56] <Soulless> blazemonger: try getting another install CD
[06:57] <bwilson> What is a good media player for AVI files?
[06:57] <Soulless> bwilson: try VLC
[06:57] <noodles12> vlc
[06:57] <soundray> bwilson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:57] <bwilson> Soulless noodles12:  ok thanks
[06:57] <gsiener> hi all
[06:57] <goldeagle> LjL: message readed, thx man, sorry for this :)
[06:58] <blazemonger> soundray:i've downloaded ubuntu a billion times
[06:58] <gsiener> anyone have experience with nforce2 and X.Org?
[06:59] <soundray> blazemonger: it seems that I won't be able to convince you that nothing is wrong with ubuntu as a distribution.
[06:59] <soundray> blazemonger: neither can I seem to get you to try some diagnostics on your system.
[06:59] <blazemonger> i've ran memtest and my memory is just fine
[06:59] <Soulless> blazemonger: maybe it ain't your memory
[06:59] <soundray> blazemonger: now will you please stop abusing the channel for slagging off the distribution. This is not what it is for.
[06:59] <mindstate> anyone know why i get this message "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated" when i run qemu, ive got the kqemu module loaded
[07:00] <Biovore> blazemonger: ubuntu is designed to be simple to install, and becausae of this some of the flexablity has been obvuscated from the average user..
[07:00] <bauer77> blazemonger:  do you have a wireless adapter on your pc?
[07:00] <LjL> mindstate: perhaps wrong permissions on /dev/kqemu, try running qemu as root (just as a test - then change the permissions if it succeeds)
[07:00] <mindstate> LjL
[07:00] <mindstate> ok
[07:00] <chrisjw_> lol nopr
[07:00] <chrisjw_> didn't work
[07:01] <sable> >	I run ./configure CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector
[07:01] <jonw> how do i allow my ubuntu user account to forward low ports like root can ?
[07:01] <gsiener> anyone here familiar with nforce2 and xorg?
[07:01] <sable> >	and I get checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[07:01] <sable> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
[07:01] <sable> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[07:01] <sable> checking for gcc... gcc
[07:01] <soundray> chrisjw_: it seems you will have to use your app with a font other than tahoma.
[07:01] <sable> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[07:01] <sable> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:01] <jonw> over ssh sorry
[07:01] <sable> See `config.log' for more details.
[07:01] <sable> Any ideas? config.log doesn't tell me much
[07:03] <unop> sable,  well, does ./configure run without CFLAGS set there?
[07:03] <sable> unop: lemme check
[07:03] <unop> sable,  and whatever you do, dont paste in here
[07:03] <sable> unop: ?
[07:03] <Pici> !paste
[07:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <soundray> sable: it sounds like you don't have a C compiler.
[07:03] <sable> it also seems to be working without cflags
[07:04] <sable> I have gcc installed
[07:04] <unop> sable,  maybe this -- CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector ./configure
[07:04] <battlesquid> hm my computer restarted while i was away. is there some way to find out why?
[07:04] <battlesquid> like what happened
[07:04] <sable> Unop: already tried that, it says command not found
[07:05] <soundray> battlesquid: examine '/var/log/syslog'
[07:05] <unop> sable,  maybe this then -- CFLAGS='-fno-stack-protector' ./configure
[07:05] <alecjw> hi. gaim keeps saying " Message could not be sent because a connection error occured:" and not sending me messages. why's this and how can i fix it?
[07:05] <alecjw> *my
[07:05] <sable> same error, Compiler cannot create executables
[07:05] <hitammanis> hello again
[07:06] <jonw> agh, this whole trying not to be root thing can really get in the way sometimes
[07:06] <soundray> battlesquid: look for the string 'restart.' to jump to times when you booted, and go backwards from there.
[07:06] <unop> sable,  It probable is a spelling mistake -- CFLAGS='-no-stack-protector' ./configure
[07:06] <soundray> jonw: use 'sudo -i'
[07:06] <gsiener> nforce2 anyone? official nvidia driver?
[07:06] <unop> probably*
[07:06] <battlesquid> soundray, thanks. there's no match for restart in that log though
[07:06] <sable> Unop: you were right, I typed the last one in and it worked
[07:07] <jonw> soundray: not when I want to ssh to the ubuntu box to set up a low port ssh forward :(
[07:07] <soundray> battlesquid: examine '/var/log/syslog.0' then. Syslogs get renamed at regular intervals
[07:07] <unop> sable,  be careful :)
[07:07] <hitammanis> Question: It seem like only .php file are being displayed when l do the localhost, it does not display any html js or css, What can I do to change this?
[07:07] <sable> Anyone know of a good graphical backup manager?
[07:08] <phyberoptik> graphical? cli ftw
[07:08] <soundray> jonw: I suggest you locally redirect the low port to a high one, then let users forward the high one.
[07:08] <soundray> !sbackup | sable
[07:08] <ubotu> sable: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[07:08] <jonw> soundray: with iptables ?
[07:08] <soundray> jonw: possibly, but I was thinking of ssh
[07:09] <stephen> hello everybody
[07:09] <stephen> :P
[07:09] <jonw> soundray: oh ssh the ssh ... hmm, that could work ... thanks .. it'll do me for now I think
[07:10] <soundray> jonw: bit of a hack, but if it works, it works ;)
[07:10] <chastech> Hi people! - Is there a bootgrub program to write to the mbr on any drive?
[07:11] <soundray> chastech: can you rephrase that?
[07:11] <duffyd> howdy all - how do I enable my 'wireless mouse' in xorg? I've google for a while but can't find anything
[07:11] <MarcN> sable: I like to use rsnapshot to do backups.  once setup you don't have to do anything.
[07:11] <posingaspopular> supergrub
[07:11] <gsiener> duffyd - is it a bluetooth mouse?
[07:11] <knight> ive got this error in gcc....ld returned exit status 1..i cant be able to get the exe file
[07:11] <duffyd> no, usb wireless
[07:11] <knight> what can i do?
[07:12] <gsiener> duffyd - if that's the case, it should look to ubuntu like a normal usb mouse
[07:12] <duffyd> gsiener: the wireless keyboard works fine just not the mouse.
[07:12] <duffyd> It's a Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 2.10
[07:12] <hitammanis> It seem like only .php file are being displayed when l do the localhost thing , it does not display any .html .js or .css, What can I do to change this?
[07:12] <hitammanis> Please help
[07:12] <knight> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 yeah I have my computer booting from the menu.lst on my D: drive
[07:12] <knight> ./shell: line 3: ./f: No such file or directory
[07:12] <gsiener> silly question: have you checked the batteries? :)
[07:12] <posingaspopular> duffyd: I have the 2.0
[07:12] <benkong2> I had to delete my original profile for firefox. Now my flash and adobe don't work, other than remove and reinstall is there a way to fix these plugins
[07:12] <MarcN> knight: you know the binary is not named *.exe, right?
[07:13] <duffyd> I noticed on the forums that there are quite a number of issues with this product (probably because it's MS ;-)
[07:13] <posingaspopular> and ive had no problems, save batteries
[07:13] <knight> MarcN, yah
[07:13] <MystaMax> hitammanis, please rephrase your question
[07:13] <gsiener> I'm actually using a wireless ms mouse as well, and it recognized it, too
[07:13] <duffyd> posingaspopular: do you mind posting your 'Mouse' section of xorg.conf?
[07:13] <posingaspopular> not at all if you show me how to get it
[07:13] <knight> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ./shell: line 3: ./f: No such file or directory
[07:14] <sable> I'm getting an error during compiling that says gcc: unreconigzed command '-no-stack-protector'
[07:14] <soundray> chastech: what are you trying to do?
[07:14] <knight> MarcN, this is the error
[07:14] <duffyd> posingaspopular: do the following at a command prompt "vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:14] <duffyd> posingaspopular: then scroll through the file (press down arrow) until you find 'Mouse"
[07:14] <knight> MarcN, ive done gcc -o f f.o and ./f
[07:14] <duffyd> well 'Mouse' without the quotes ;-)
 I want my mbr to read the menu.lst on drive C:
[07:15] <MarcN> knight: why not gcc -o f f.c
[07:15] <kleftisx> hello i have install Beryl and it has dissapear the bar that includes Close(X) Maximize, And minimize(-) buttons
[07:15] <kleftisx> any way to fix it?
[07:15] <hitammanis> MystaMax: my webserver is only showing or display file with the ext .php, and if I change a html filename to whatever.php it shows. What do I do to correct this?
[07:15] <_jvictor> anyone dev who works on laptop issues in here?
[07:15] <soundray> chastech: sounds like you need grub for Windows
[07:15] <slippyr4> Hi all, does anyone know how to make a new initrd or links to info? I need to add a module to it to move my root to a new controller.
[07:15] <knight> MarcN, but ive first done gcc -c f.c
[07:16] <knight> MarcN, getting same error thorought the other way
[07:16] <MarcN> knight: if you have .o files, use ld to link them.  if you use gcc -o f f.c  it will compile and link it
[07:16] <bwilson> What is a good BitTorrent downloading software like KTorrent...but for Gnome  (Not Azuereus)
[07:16] <MystaMax> hitammanis, does apache return an error message in the browser, or nothing is displayed? sounds like an apache handler iss
[07:16] <MystaMax> issue
yeah I have dapper on D: and hoary on C:
[07:16] <Rounin> Hello! Does anyone happen to know of a working ID3v2 editor with Unicode support that doesn't use ID3lib?
[07:16] <posingaspopular> "/etc/x11/xorg.conf" [New File]                                0,0-1         All
[07:16] <hitammanis> MystaMax: is displays nothing
[07:16] <mindstate> bwilson: uTorrent under wine works like a charm
[07:17] <Rounin> The id3lib in Ubuntu currently has a bug with Unicode, so it would have to be based on something else
[07:17] <blazemonger> so if i install ubuntu-desktop again it will run good ?
[07:17] <duffyd> posingaspopular: it's case-sensitive "vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:17] <MystaMax> hitammanis, how did you install apache?
[07:17] <posingaspopular> with quotation marks?
[07:17] <jahid> hi, how can i set environment variable so that they will be loaded when i login? should i write on ".bashrc"?
[07:17] <duffyd> posingaspopular: no :-)
[07:18] <alecjw> hi. gaim keeps saying " Message could not be sent because a connection error occured:" and not sending my messages. why's this and how can i fix it?
[07:18] <hitammanis> through the Synaptic Package Manager
[07:18] <bcardarella> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the default apache2.conf file?
[07:18] <hitammanis> MystaMax:  through the Synaptic Package Manager
[07:18] <knight> !pastebin
[07:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:18] <kupesoft> jahid: at the bottom of ~/.bashrc put: export VARIABLE="Value"
[07:18] <duffyd> posingaspopular: yes please use pastebin
[07:19] <alecjw> bcardarella, sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache2 should do it
[07:19] <posingaspopular> okay i got this thing that says section files font path /user/share/x11 etc
[07:19] <posingaspopular> i'll use pastebin
[07:19] <bcardarella> alecjw: thanks
[07:19] <duffyd> posingaspopular: that's the one
[07:19] <litos523> hola
[07:19] <posingaspopular> okay now what do i do
[07:19] <nzx> hey, my laptop is not powering down when i do a shutdown, it gets to when it says power down and nothing happens
[07:19] <_jvictor> need some help on Hotkeys for a laptop..
[07:20] <kupesoft> nzx: You can just press power at that point, does the hard disk shut off?
[07:20] <duffyd> well try this - type type the following without quotes: "/Mouse" then press Enter
[07:20] <posingaspopular> oh okay
[07:20] <posingaspopular> duh thanks
[07:20] <duffyd> it should find the "Mouse" section
[07:20] <kupesoft> nzx: You'll hear it sort of click and stop spinning,
[07:20] <nzx> kupesoft, thats what i have been doing, but it would be better if it powered off properly
[07:20] <bcardarella> alecjw: actually, that's not what I'm looking for...
[07:20] <slippyr4> noone have any info on how to make a new initrd?
[07:20] <MystaMax> hitammanis, if you haven't changed any config files, I'd try reinstalling. My first thought is that your apache handler is messed up, also try #apache channel
[07:21] <nzx> kupesoft, the hard drive clicks when i hold the power button
[07:21] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5782/
[07:21] <kupesoft> nzx: Agreed! Hmmm, sounds like an acpi issue.
[07:21] <posingaspopular> is that right? my first time using pastebin
[07:21] <kupesoft> nzx: What laptop are you running?
[07:21] <bcardarella> alecjw: I installed Apache2.2 because I need mod_proxy_balance for Rails and I would like to ty to configure close to a Ubuntu installation...
[07:21] <nzx> kupesoft, its a sony vaio vgn-s3xp
[07:21] <Kelbizzle> Anyone know how I can find out when a file was created.
[07:21] <Meltdown79> Hey guys, ive been running ubuntu for some time at home and im thinking about installing linux dist at work too, but.. since im a webdesigner i need photoshop and dreamweaver and phpED... I just cant find any similar programs.... I could live without photoshop, but not Dreamweaver... any suggestions?? Been trying to get DW working using wine without any results. =)
[07:21] <knight> hi can anyone help me with my gcc compilation? this is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5783/
[07:22] <duffyd> posingaspopular: thanks - I'll report back
[07:22] <alecjw> bcardarella, i'm not sure how to do that. dsorry
[07:22] <posingaspopular> gimp
[07:22] <slippyr4> anyone know what package mkinitrd would be in? or how i could find out for myself?
[07:22] <posingaspopular> Meltdown79: gimp i mean
[07:22] <knight> MarcN, hi can u pls check it out?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5783/
[07:22] <_jvictor> i use a toshiba laptop A105-S4334 .. i searched the forums to try to get the hotkeys working ..
[07:22] <bcardarella> alecjw: oh, everything is already set up... I just need a default Ubuntu apache2.conf file to compare against httpd.conf
[07:22] <gsiener> just switched to nvidia's official driver, and when I first boot up, I see the nvidia splash, then the screen turns black but I can still see/move the mouse
[07:22] <_jvictor> anyone had luck with it ?
[07:23] <Meltdown79> posingaspopular yeah, gimp is ok.. but i dont really like it. I have been working with photoshop for 10 years and i know everything about it. =)
[07:23] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, aptana is good XHTML/CSS/JS editor, just doesn't have WYSIWYG
[07:23] <Meltdown79> The one I like the most is NVU, but it doesnt support SFTP!!!!! CRY!!!
[07:23] <nzx> kupesoft, i think i need to make set ACPI=force, but how do i do it with grub? can i just pass ACPI=force as a kernel argument on the grub boot menu?
[07:23] <Kelbizzle> Anyone know how I can find out when a file was created.
[07:23] <kupesoft> nzx: http://www.siglost.org/vgna197vp/ - that isn't your exact model but the article talks about a workaround,
[07:24] <duffyd> posingaspopular: after I looked at your xorg.conf file I noticed that it is exactly the same as mine ;-) so then I put new batteries in the mouse and 'hey presto' it works!
[07:24] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, does it have sftp support?? =)
[07:24] <duffyd> posingaspopular: how embawassing
[07:24] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, check www.aptana.com, i'm not sure
[07:24] <kupesoft> nzx: You'll have to add nolapic as a boot parameter
[07:24] <_jvictor> the biggest issue is the screen brightness my eyes are getting roasted ..
[07:24] <Meltdown79> yes, thanx. =) Anyone got Dreamweaver MX 2004 to work with Ubuntu by the way? I got 6.10
[07:24] <nzx> kupesoft, thanks, i'll read up
[07:24] <mnoir> Meltdown79: you might try Quantaplus - much better than NVU
[07:24] <duffyd> posingaspopular: thanks a lot, though!
[07:24] <kupesoft> nzx: May I pm you, I'll explain how to set up a kernel argument there
[07:24] <duffyd> l8r
[07:24] <posingaspopular> np
[07:25] <posingaspopular> good luck
[07:25] <TabooTreez> Can anyone help me with wine?
[07:25] <TabooTreez> Im trying to run warcraft
[07:25] <nzx> kupesoft, sure
[07:25] <TabooTreez> and all im getting is warcraft in black and grey
[07:25] <TabooTreez> no textures kinda
[07:25] <TabooTreez> real funky
[07:26] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, check out this thread. I didn't read it, but looks informative, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266627&highlight=dreamweaver+on+ubuntu
[07:26] <_jvictor> any toshiba satellite users who have got hotkeys working  ?
[07:27] <_jvictor> some hack to reduce the screen brightness will do
[07:27] <_jvictor> its like looking at the sun  all day ..
[07:27] <yopad> hey guys...how do you get the default toolbar back?
[07:27] <yopad> i was messing around and deleted the whole thing...
[07:28] <Meltdown79> mnoir, i have tried quantaplus too... looks really nice, but it also has this problem that it doesnt support sftp i think, only ftp. Or maybe i just didnt understand how to set it up???? would be awsome
[07:28] <_jvictor> yopad, u deleted both ?
[07:28] <yopad> naw...the top one..the main one
[07:28] <Meltdown79> Thanx  alot MystaMax, i will have a look into it
[07:29] <mnoir> hmm - have you asked eric?  join the email list and post - the crew is very small and usually has ready answers for everything.
[07:29] <yopad> is there a way to restore it?
[07:29] <_jvictor> rt clik on the botom one and selct nw panel
[07:29] <AMD> i need the gnome partion manager .......how do i get it please
[07:29] <_jvictor> new panel*
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[07:29] <mnoir> AMD:
[07:29] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, no prob. It looks like aptana supports SFTP
[07:29] <yopad> i know you can rebuild it...but adding new stuff...but im messing stuff
[07:29] <yopad> missing stuff
[07:29] <mnoir> AMD: install gparted?
[07:30] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, yepp, im having a look at it right now.
[07:30] <_jvictor> yopad, once the panel is there , u can rt clik on it and use add to panel.. to select whatever u want
[07:30] <AMD> mnoir ok i will try after the update is done
[07:31] <surripui> how do I make a 6.10 desktop boot without X
[07:31] <yopad> thanks jvic
[07:31] <daleth> Can anyone outside the US try to open the webpage http://www.futureflex.com for me?  I've gotten complaints that non-us people can't get there.  Trying to troubleshoot...
[07:31] <_jvictor> np..anytime :)
[07:31] <kupesoft> daleth: Way off topic.
[07:32] <Meltdown79> MystaMax hehe... seems like it got everything i wont.. but the most important thing... PHP support..hehe
[07:32] <variant> daleth: that is not really an ubuntu related issue, this is not the place to ask that kind of thing (a cynical man would think you were just trying to generate hits)
[07:33] <surripui> can anyone hlep me with my boot without X on 6.10 desktop question?
[07:33] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, easy eclipse can help with that. you're going through the same steps i went through. I also do webdev work
[07:33] <Zaggynl> !prism
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prism - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <slippyr4> is there a way to list all currently loaded kernel modules
[07:33] <variant> slippyr4: lsmod
[07:33] <_jvictor> lsmod
[07:33] <slippyr4> thanks
[07:33] <variant> slippyr4: you might want to pipe that to more or less, there will be a lot of modules on ubuntu
[07:34] <variant> TabooTreez: #wine is the place to ask
[07:34] <TabooTreez> variant: ive done so
[07:34] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, yeah, but all programs i have checked does miss one thing that i need... no program does have all the support that dreamweaver has =)
[07:34] <Meltdown79> Guess i just have to live with it if i want to go linux =)
[07:35] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, thats the conclusion i came to
[07:35] <wolferine> when I try and dl the unbuntu .iso using FlashFXP, it shows as a shortcut in the dir (the icon it), and I still cannot get the file, is this a common problem?
[07:36] <MystaMax> wolferine, doesn't sound common
[07:36] <ndee> hello there, is the open source driver for ATI cards more stable than the proprietary driver?
[07:36] <MystaMax> wolferine, what server are you going to
[07:36] <ndee> the problem is, when I sometimes restart my X server, the whole computer freezes and I can't do a thing and I read, that it's a problem of the ATI driver.
[07:36] <wolferine> ndee been working on it for awhile now? (i am just starting to get ati to work) ?
[07:37] <ndee> wolferine: hm?
[07:37] <Meltdown79> MystaMax if i would only be working with php etc i could be using phpED wich is a very nice phpeditor.... then linux would work really nice.. but when needing photoshop and dreamweaver this looks hard.. Gimp is just not good enough and there is no program similar to dreamweaver..hehehe... I guess i will just have linux at home for now... to play with
[07:37] <redguy> is there any difference between the -386 kernel and the -generic kernel?
[07:37] <Shaffox> !wiki
[07:37] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:37] <variant> Meltdown79: you can install dreamweaver in wine
[07:38] <redguy> if there is - what's the difference?
[07:38] <wolferine> ndee your trying to get the ATI drivers to work in linux
[07:38] <wolferine> correct?
[07:39] <HymnToLife> redguy, the 386 kernel is designed to work even on veeeeeery old hardware
[07:39] <ndee> wolferine: no, I have the driver running and also had beryl running etc.
[07:39] <HymnToLife> so it has no optimizations, and thus will run slower on new hardwre
[07:39] <Meltdown79> variant, yepp.. I have been trying to do it... two ways, first i installed it in windows and copied all the files like the tutorials tells me... then I found a tutorial that told me to install the program using wine.. nothing worked though... didnt get it to run on my Ubuntu 6.10.. dreamweaver MX 2004.. =)  Maybe it was me who screwed up
[07:39] <wolferine> sweet
[07:39] <ndee> wolferine: I'm thinking about switching to the open source driver, if it's more stable.
[07:39] <variant> Meltdown79: real men use emacs
[07:39] <wolferine> thats the point I am trying to get to
[07:39] <shatrat> ndee, what card do you have?
[07:39] <variant> Meltdown79: http://www.z123.org/techsupport/lxdrtut.htm
[07:39] <ndee> shatrat: I have the ATI T2 Firegl 128, in a Thinkpad T42p
[07:39] <Meltdown79> =)
[07:40] <HymnToLife> redguy, so unles your PC is ~15 years old, you should go with the generic :p
[07:40] <wolferine> ndee, can I talk to you in pm, to see what I need to do to get past some pitfalls?
[07:40] <shatrat> ndee, do you know what core that uses?
[07:40] <nofxx> hi.. my samsung LCD is offset to the right... using 'nv' driver.... samsung says 30-81 HSync... can I play with that value?? what can I do?
[07:40] <ndee> wolferine: yep, np
[07:40] <ndee> shatrat: let me check
[07:40] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, is vmware overkill for u?
[07:40] <jove> can the i686 kernel run on an AMD-K6?
[07:41] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, im running vmware... thats how i survive =) Got DW and photoshop installed heheh
[07:41] <nofxx> jove: nope
[07:41] <shatrat> noflxfor starters I wouldnt use the "nv" driver.
[07:41] <redguy> HymnToLife: ok, so the generic is equivalent to the old -i686 ?
[07:41] <ndee> shatrat: FGL 9600
[07:41] <shatrat> redguy, not entirely, -generic also supports dual core and hyperthreading
[07:41] <HymnToLife> redguy, more or less, actually it is a replacement for all the optimized kernels
[07:41] <nofxx> shatrat: its a thin client..... apt-get is not working on the ltsp chroot... so I can install nvidia
[07:42] <HymnToLife> !generic | redguy
[07:42] <ubotu> redguy: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[07:42] <daleth> variant: kupesoft: OK, where *do* you recommend I go for that.  I just thought there's a stable of people of an international flavor... Maybe they can help...
[07:42] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, only problem with running windows xp in vmware is that it is kind of slow.... it slows my computer down a bit... i only have 1 gig of ram.... probably need more to make vmware to run nicely =)
[07:42] <shatrat> nofxx, I see.  not sure what you can do in that case
[07:42] <redguy> HymnToLife: thanks this seems what I was looking for
[07:42] <variant> daleth: ask a friend
[07:42] <ndee> shatrat: I think it's a 9600 core, radeon 9600 or something
[07:42] <nofxx> shatrat: *can't install ... ahh ok.. ty man
[07:43] <shatrat> ndee, well if it is related to the 9x00 series then it should be able to work with the open source driver.
[07:43] <variant> daleth: would you phone the gas company to check if your website was working? no, so don't ask such things here either please
[07:43] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, i can't say the same, although I've got more RAM. I can run 3 vm, beryl, on dual desktops no problem
[07:43] <Voria1> hey guys
[07:43] <daleth> variant: nice.  #ubuntu... where the otterly obvious is handed off as assistance.
[07:43] <ndee> shatrat: but do you think it would be more stable than the proprietary driver?
[07:43] <Voria1> is this the support channel?
[07:43] <variant> daleth: #ubuntu an ubuntu support channel where support for roasting chickens and other unrelated things cannot be found
[07:44] <variant> Voria1: indeed it is
[07:44] <Voria1> variant: i got a simple question
[07:44] <Voria1> i hop
[07:44] <nofeardjb> What's the command to turn off or 'remove' your sound module?
[07:44] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, yeah.. Im able to run Windows Xp nicely.... it works good, but... it doesnt work as good as a windows machine... with only windows installed..hehe... When im running photoshop, dreamweaver, browser and a few more apps in windows.. it get very slow.. =)'
[07:44] <variant> Voria1: ask away
[07:44] <shatrat> ndee, meth addicts are more stable than the proprietary ATI drivers.
[07:44] <sable> In the package manager, what is the difference between romval, and complete removal?
[07:44] <ndee> shatrat: lol
[07:45] <Voria1> I just installed 6.06, but apt wouldn't download anything so i replaced sources.list with the one on the ubuntu website. I'm trying to compile a driver but i keep getting errors
[07:45] <red_star_bg> hi
[07:45] <Meltdown79> MystaMax , i love having Windows xp virtual machine on one desktop.... and using beryl makes it really cool... =)  Very easy to switch between linux and windows.. =)
[07:45] <red_star_bg> i love you red star belgrade
[07:45] <nofeardjb> beryl ftw
[07:45] <variant> Voria1: put the errors at www.rafb.net/paste
[07:45] <Voria1> k
[07:45] <Meltdown79> beryl ftw
[07:45] <Voria1> what language do i use
[07:46] <variant> Voria1: plain text
[07:46] <nofeardjb> anyone know how to remove the sound module?
[07:46] <sacater> Meltdown79: beryl sucks, way too cpu intenive with xgl
[07:46] <sacater> cant play games or antyintg
[07:46] <nofeardjb> if your gpu sucks, then beryl will suck
[07:46] <shatrat> nofeardjb, why do you want to do that?
[07:46] <variant> sacater: works better with aiglx
[07:46] <nofeardjb> on my laptop
[07:46] <nofeardjb> i don't want sound on it
[07:46] <Voria1> http://rafb.net/p/mjQ62Y94.html
[07:46] <shatrat> nofeardjb, why not just mute the sound?
[07:46] <variant> nofeardjb: actualy, i have a radeon 7000 igp and beryl works rather nicely
[07:46] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, yea, beryl works well for me
[07:46] <Meltdown79> sacater im not having any problems at all runnig beryl, my cpu is the same when turning it on
[07:46] <nofeardjb> would that work when it boots up?
[07:47] <nofeardjb> cuz i don't want the boot up sound to play when i log in
[07:47] <royel> anyone know what would be preventing a theme from updating the "start" button applications, places, system area, everything else updates correctly but those items.
[07:47] <shatrat> nofeardjb, I think you can disable that in the GDM setup, and then mute everything else in alsamixer
[07:47] <nofeardjb> variant: nice
[07:47] <variant> Voria1: did you run ./configure?
[07:47] <shatrat> nofeardjb, alsamixer migth mute GDM as well
[07:47] <Voria1> variant: lol im such a noob, did i run WHAT?
[07:47] <nofeardjb> shatrat, gdm setup? do explain
[07:47] <variant> Voria1: before you run make run ./configure
[07:48] <Voria1> in the driver source dir?
[07:48] <shatrat> nofeardjb, are you running ubuntu, the gnome version?
[07:48] <nofeardjb> you bet
[07:48] <variant> Voria1: yes
[07:48] <Meltdown79> MystaMax ... I got this program that bugged on me and I just cant make it shut down... I know there is a way to find out what the process id is and then kill it in shell.... you know how to do it, i have forgotten. lol
[07:48] <variant> Meltdown79: killall appname
[07:48] <Voria1> no such file or directory :(
[07:48] <Meltdown79> oh
[07:48] <Meltdown79> thanx variant
[07:48] <variant> Meltdown79: if it wont die do killall -9 appname
[07:48] <nofeardjb> oh!
[07:48] <Meltdown79> kk
[07:48] <shatrat> nofeardjb, in System - >Administration -> Login Window go to the accessories tab and uncheck the sounds
[07:48] <nofeardjb> i found the sound in "sound preferences"
[07:48] <sacater> Meltdown79: go into terminal and do killall 9 <programname>
[07:49] <variant> Meltdown79: you can also press alt f2 and type xkill then any window you click on will die
[07:49] <Voria1> variant: i type "./configure" and it says no such file or directory
[07:49] <Meltdown79> damn, this is a nice channel, i have been working with ubuntu for a couple of months without any help at all.. lol... I should have joined this channel much earlier...haha =) Learned a lot when googeling though
[07:49] <variant> Voria1: fromyour pastebin you seem to be int he wrong dir, type cd .. first
[07:49] <nofeardjb> shatrat: Thank you!
[07:50] <sebrock> hey I'm sitting here with this problem and I know the answer is simple... I cant use the volume changer in ubuntu, ie it doesnt alter the volume. But sound works fine. How do I fix this???
[07:50] <wolferine> whats ggoogle?
[07:50] <variant> Voria1: so, cd.. && ./configure
[07:50] <shatrat> nofeardjb, no problem
[07:50] <Meltdown79> variant LOL... xkill rulez!
[07:50] <MystaMax> Meltdown79, i like to use htop from the commandline
[07:50] <variant> Meltdown79: indeed
[07:50] <shatrat> sebrock, sounds like the volume changer is set to change the wrong volume slider by default
[07:50] <nihilocrat> Does anyone know which package provides openGL headers? I can get glu and glut headers, but not plain old opengl ones
[07:50] <nihilocrat> I've already installed libgl1-mesa-dev
[07:50] <Meltdown79> thanx for telling me about xkill.. =) I have been doing the killall in shell, but xkill works much faster =)
[07:50] <Voria1> variant: what dir am i supposed to be in? im in the same dir as the driver source. is there supposed to be a config file?
[07:50] <britishseapower> using nautilus to browse my samba server works (it sees it and i can copy a 5 mb file)....but when i try to copy a large file (700mb) the transfer just gets slower and slower and eventually times out...any ideas?
[07:51] <shatrat> sebrock, you can right click it and go to preferences and select device to control, you probably want either Main or PCM
[07:51] <sebrock> shatrat, yes something likew that
[07:51] <variant> Voria1: did you install build-essential etc as well?
[07:51] <Voria1> O.o
[07:51] <variant> Voria1: the top leve of the source directory probably
[07:51] <shatrat> sebrock, its PCM for me.
[07:51] <hitammanis> hello once again
[07:51] <user123> I booted into single usermode, how do I mount my filesystem read and write?
[07:51] <HymnToLife> Voria1, what are you trying to compile ?
[07:51] <variant> Voria1: apt-get install build-essential
[07:51] <Voria1> as we speed, variant
[07:51] <nofeardjb> i sure wish beryl would work with integrate intel graphics
[07:51] <Voria1> speak*
[07:51] <wolferine> whats the command to check what X i am running?
[07:51] <variant> wolferine: what version? X -version
[07:51] <chrisjw_> how do you uninstall a package?
[07:51] <shatrat> nofeardjb, what makes you think it doesnt?
[07:52] <variant> chrisjw_: apt-get remove packagename
[07:52] <sebrock> shatrat, now thats strange I dont have PCM as an option
[07:52] <pbureau> chrisjw_, apt-get remove <packagename>
[07:52] <nofeardjb> i tried?
[07:52] <nofeardjb> lol
[07:52] <shatrat> sebrock, well, different strokes for different chipsets, folks
[07:52] <nofeardjb> i just got a white screen
[07:52] <user123> I booted into single usermode, how do I mount my filesystem read and write?
[07:52] <HymnToLife> wolferine, X -version
[07:52] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, you know if there ar any tweaks to get vmware to work better? =) I just gave my windows xp virtual machine 20gig of HD and 512 mb of ram i think.... any other setting so make it run better? =)
[07:52] <nofeardjb> its possible that it wasn't configured correctly as well hehe
[07:52] <shatrat> nofeardjb, possible
[07:52] <HymnToLife> Meltdown79, get a better CPU :p
[07:52] <Voria1> variant: i have gcc, make, kernel hearers, build-essential, what else shold i need?
[07:52] <Meltdown79> MystaMax, and when im running it, it seems like its faster to run it using vmware player, is that how you are suppose to run it right?
[07:52] <variant> Voria1: depends on what your installing
[07:53] <Meltdown79> HymnToLife, yes!! hehe
[07:53] <variant> Voria1: I have to go home now, sorry
[07:53] <pbureau> Voria1, what your trying to get done ?
[07:53] <nofeardjb> hehe
[07:53] <variant> Voria1: refer to pbureau
[07:53] <HymnToLife> Voria1, what are you trying to compile ? (second attempt)
[07:53] <chrisjw_> what's the best emulator to use?
[07:53] <variant> just finished work :D
[07:53] <pbureau> lol variant dont start !
[07:53] <nofeardjb> i have yet to find anyone with integrated intel graphics that has beryl working
[07:53] <Voria1> lol
[07:53] <Voria1> pb
[07:53] <Voria1> im just installing a driver
[07:53] <Voria1> but im a knub
[07:53] <HymnToLife> which driver ?
[07:53] <britishseapower> using nautilus to browse my samba server works (it sees it and i can copy a 5 mb file)....but when i try to copy a large file (700mb) the transfer just gets slower and slower and eventually times out...any ideas? cant figure it out ?
[07:53] <Voria1> rt61 cvs
[07:53] <variant> nofeardjb: my girl friend has intel on board gfx and it works flawlessly with aiglx
[07:53] <Voria1> i keep getting make errors
[07:54] <chona> i cannot run any command (written in c)..after installing libmysqlclient14-dev...i cannot use "./"
[07:54] <pbureau> Voria1, so you read the README and INSTALL files in that package ? whats does it depend on to make it ?
[07:54] <nofeardjb> do you know what the difference between the xgl and aiglx version is?
[07:54] <Voria1> hm
[07:54] <chrisjw_> what's the best emulator to use???
[07:54] <pbureau> chona, try sudo ./ command
[07:54] <HymnToLife> Voria1, pastebin them, we'll see what we can do
[07:54] <HymnToLife> !repeat  | chrisjw_
[07:54] <ubotu> chrisjw_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:54] <sebrock> shatrat, I found it
[07:54] <shatrat> sebrock, glad to hear that.
[07:54] <sebrock> although the leveler on the keyboard still takes the wrong volume
[07:54] <ptrg> anyone using kxdocker, know how to make it update it's fake transparency more often?
[07:55] <sebrock> shatrat, brb!
[07:55] <hitammanis> I just re-installed apache2, and when I go to http://localhost/apache2-default/ is blank, what am I doing wrong please help?
[07:55] <chona> itsays command not found
[07:55] <HymnToLife> nofeardjb, AIGLX is just a "layer" on top of Xorg, XGL is a completely different X server
[07:55] <Se2> i want to say
[07:55] <nofeardjb> ok
[07:55] <nofeardjb> i'll try aiglx then
[07:55] <pbureau> chona, locate <command>
[07:55] <nihilocrat> Does anyone know which package provides openGL headers? I can get glu and glut headers, but not plain old opengl ones. I've already installed libgl1-mesa-dev.
[07:56] <shatrat> nofeardjb, follow the how-to. you shouldnt have tried xgl in the first place
[07:56] <Se2> 6.10 have so many bugs
[07:56] <nofeardjb> haha
[07:56] <Se2> sux...
[07:56] <britishseapower> using nautilus to browse my samba server works (it sees it and i can copy a 5 mb file)....but when i try to copy a large file (700mb) the transfer just gets slower and slower and eventually times out...
[07:56] <bauer77> What bugs Se2
[07:57] <HymnToLife> Se2, it WorksForMe (TM)
[07:57] <nofeardjb> well, i used that one on another box so i went with that method first on my laptop
[07:57] <chona> it can find it
[07:57] <nofeardjb> i really didn't know the difference
[07:57] <ptrg> i haven't had too many bugs with 6.10
[07:57] <hitammanis> ptrg: wait one
[07:57] <bauer77> works for me too
[07:57] <chona> i can't even run even a simple "hello world" written in C
[07:57] <sebrock> shatrat, do you know where I change that?
[07:57] <Se2> bauer77
[07:57] <Se2> stupid bugs
[07:57] <britishseapower> using nautilus to browse my samba server works (it sees it and i can copy a 5 mb file)....but when i try to copy a large file (700mb) the transfer just gets slower and slower and eventually times out... how can it work for a small file but not a large one?
[07:57] <Se2> need to restart pc -)
[07:57] <HymnToLife> !repeat | britishseapower
[07:57] <ubotu> britishseapower: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:57] <hitammanis> where is the httpd.conf file located
[07:58] <AMD> i have an anoying problem with copy and paste
[07:58] <Se2> the system doesn't respond
[07:58] <chona> i can compile using gcc but i can't even run even a simple "hello world" written in C
[07:58] <HymnToLife> hitammanis, /etc/apache2 iirc
[07:58] <AMD> same times i copy but paste is not avalible
[07:58] <shatrat> sebrock, I dont mess with multimedia keyboards myself, not sure.
[07:58] <bauer77> Se2: maybe your hardware is not configured properly
[07:58] <Se2> the windows system is more stable then ubuntu 6.10
[07:58] <Meltdown79> Are there lots of tweaks for ubuntu to make it run even better? =)
[07:58] <sable> In the package manager, what is the difference between romval, and complete removal?
[07:58] <HymnToLife> Se2, are you a troll ?
[07:58] <ptrg> /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[07:58] <Se2> this is true...
[07:58] <bauer77> HymnToLife: that was my next question thanks
[07:58] <Se2> :(
[07:58] <MystaMax> ha
[07:59] <trainer__> hi, where do I download the edgy iso that is NOT a live cd??
[07:59] <AMD> Se2 give it some time
[07:59] <nofeardjb> trainer: not possible
[07:59] <shatrat> trainer__, there is an alternate installer available usually in the same place
[07:59] <nofeardjb> trainer: unless its the server iso
[07:59] <HymnToLife> trainer__, at the same place you downloaded your live cd from
[07:59] <AMD> trainer__ you looking for an alternate install
[07:59] <bauer77> only issue I had was Terminal Server client and I resolved that myself
[07:59] <trainer__> AMD yes that one
[07:59] <LjL> !alternate | trainer__
[07:59] <ubotu> trainer__: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:59] <Se2> eh, i feel that system will crash son
[07:59] <Se2> :))
[07:59] <LjL> nofeardjb: not really...
[07:59] <LjL> !minimal
[07:59] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:59] <nofeardjb> nofeardjb:or alternative install like they said ^^
[08:00] <trainer__> the live cd can't detect my hdd, somone here told me yesterday to get that alternate cd
[08:00] <nofeardjb> LjL: i know... lol
[08:00] <nozey> how can i make apt reinstall the config files of a package?
[08:00] <AMD> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/ubuntu/
[08:00] <LjL> nofeardjb: then why did you state the contrary? :o)
[08:00] <HymnToLife> nozey, reinstall that package ?
[08:00] <trainer__> LjL thanks
[08:00] <nozey> i unninstaled apache2, then when i reinstall it, apt dont create the /etc/apache2 folder, for exemplo
[08:00] <chona> i cannot run any command (written in c)..after installing libmysqlclient14-dev...i cannot use "./". i can compile using gcc but i can't even run even a simple "hello world" written in C
[08:00] <nofeardjb> LjL: I get jumpy and ahead of myself... =/
[08:00] <HymnToLife> chona, are you sure your bin is in the current dir and executable ?
[08:00] <trainer__> no sweat ;)
[08:01] <IanLiu> Hi
[08:01] <HymnToLife> !hi | IanLiu
[08:01] <ubotu> IanLiu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:01] <nozey> HymnToLife, any tips
[08:01] <sable> In the package manager, what is the difference between romval, and complete removal?
[08:01] <nozey> ?
[08:01] <IanLiu> I am using Dapper Drake, and I wanted to upgrade my GLIBC to 2.4. How I do it?
[08:01] <AMD> trainer__ live cd is better and faster
[08:01] <HymnToLife> IanLiu, compile it from source, or upgrade to Edgy
[08:02] <chona> yes my bin is in the current directory and is executable..
[08:02] <chona> ls
[08:02] <trainer__> AMD but the partitioner hangs
[08:02] <HymnToLife> [20:02]  <AMD> trainer__ live cd is better and faster <= I sincerely hope you're joking
[08:02] <hitammanis> ptrg: are you still here if so http://pastebin.com/881121
[08:02] <AMD> HymnToLife its true http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/01/live-cd-vs-alternate-installer/
[08:02] <LMJ> nozey : try  'apt-get install --reinstall <package>' or something like this, check the man apt-get
[08:02] <wolferine> now to check the version of XFree?
[08:02] <Se2> 2 minutes ago the totem was able to play music, but now it doesn't, 2 programs have crashed unexpectly, one program is not responding...
[08:02] <IanLiu> is there a way to upgrade to edgy without reinstalling all ubuntu, or losing data?
[08:02] <Se2> =)
[08:03] <wolferine> how do I do that?
[08:03] <hitammanis> ptrg: I followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:03] <nozey> LMJ, already tried that and checked the man
[08:03] <sebrock> anyone else who knows where to alter the mapping of a key one the keyboard
[08:03] <Se2> need an restart
[08:03] <AMD> trainer__ burn the cd at a slower speed
[08:03] <nozey> tryed dpkg-reconfigure package too
[08:03] <HymnToLife> faster, maybe, I never really paid attention to the time it took
[08:03] <AMD> Se2 sudo reboot -r now
[08:03] <HymnToLife> but better, no way
[08:03] <shatrat> IanLiu, yes there is, you might want to check the forum thread about it though, it doesn't work 100% reliably
[08:03] <LMJ> sable :   remove the package simply,  remove complete (apt-get --purge)  remove also all config file you modify & directories created
[08:03] <AMD> HymnToLife imho
[08:04] <IanLiu> hmm
[08:04] <IanLiu> better compile from source
[08:04] <nozey> LMJ, it removed. but it dont install the config files again
[08:04] <IanLiu> I must compile libc6 right?
[08:04] <LjL> Se2, if you have a specific question, ask - but just complaining about various less-than-well-defined problems will not be of much use, unfortunately.
[08:04] <Se2> i want to make an 5days uptime but its seems is to hard to make todo with ubuntu
[08:04] <AMD> trainer__	also make sure you drives are set up correctly
[08:04] <hitammanis>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:04] <trainer__> so, where do I download the alternate iso? ubotu didnt say
[08:05] <HymnToLife> trainer__, the same place you douwnloaded your live cd from
[08:05] <wolferine> how do I check which XFree I have on my system?
[08:05] <HymnToLife> wolferine, you most likely don't have it at all
[08:05] <nozey> LMJ, take a look: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1631
[08:05] <wolferine> i do
[08:05] <wheels3572> How do I mount a CD?
[08:06] <HymnToLife> but have Xorg instead
[08:06] <sable> anyone know an easy way to install the newest gcc?
[08:06] <wolferine> whats the command to check the version?
[08:06] <bauer77> wheels3572:  google mount a CD
[08:06] <wolferine> for either then, Xorg of XFree
[08:06] <LMJ> nozey : "dpkg -l | grep -i apache"   what is gives to you ?   remove all apache related packages with --purge option,   do a "deborphan" command (or install it if you don't have it,   "apt-get --purge"  all packages who are orphelan,  then do  "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"  then,  "aptitute install apache2"   etc...
[08:06] <haxality> wheels3572: sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[08:06] <HymnToLife> wolferine, X -version
[08:06] <haxality> wheels3572: in a terminal, of course
[08:06] <rob123> I recently changed my webserver from gentoo to ubuntu server, and now server seems to loose connection every 20 min or so and the come back online again, I did not have this problem before. Any ideeas?
[08:06] <wolferine> doesnt say in X -version
[08:06] <chona> i cannot run any command (written in c)..after installing libmysqlclient14-dev...i cannot use "./". i can compile using gcc but i can't even run even a simple "hello world" written in C
[08:07] <wolferine> just has the rls info about X window system
[08:07] <wolferine> not XFree or Xorg
[08:07] <HymnToLife> wolferine, and what do you want to know ?
[08:07] <raeez> Hi, my computer crashes when loading ubuntu at boot time, but this only happens if any external usb hdd's are in. If i take them out, and then boot, it boots fine into ubuntu. How can i fix this?
[08:07] <wolferine> what version I have of either XFree or Xorg
[08:07] <wheels3572> haxality, not working hmmmmmm
[08:07] <wolferine> thats what I asked wasnt it?
[08:07] <mrkris> I can't seem to recall, what's the package that installs the restricted formats for you?
[08:08] <shatrat> wolferine, try Xorg -version
[08:08] <bauer77> s
[08:08] <sable> anyone know an easy way to install the newest gcc?
[08:08] <HymnToLife> wolferine, it definitely tells you then
[08:08] <pbureau> raeez,  tell your bios to not boot from usb
[08:08] <mc44> wolferine: the version it gives *is* the version of Xorg
[08:08] <mc44> wolferine: most likely 7.1.1
[08:08] <wheels3572> haxality, if I do wheels@wheels-desktop:~$ ls -l /mnt
[08:08] <wheels3572> total 0
[08:08] <wheels3572>  that's the outcome
[08:08] <raeez> pbureau:
[08:09] <raeez> pbureau: It loads perfectly fine in windows..
[08:09] <nozey> LMJ, humm. it worked. seems that apache2 was not the package that had the config files. thank you and im sorry for my english (im brazilian).
[08:09] <wolferine> and to check the kernel version?
[08:09] <raeez> pbureau: and i get to the grub loader and all, just once i select ubuntu then it loads for a while and then crashes
[08:09] <LMJ> raeez :  do you have something related to this USB stoage device on fstab ?  It boots with another OS on it ?  Are you sure that's not a USB poweer cosumption
[08:09] <pbureau> raeez, humm then I dont know.
[08:09] <chona> i changed the permissions and now it says "cannot execute s binary file"
[08:09] <shatrat> wolferine, it will be in that same string
[08:09] <LMJ> welcome nozey
[08:09] <raeez> pbureau: It doesnt actually crash, it sort of just stops responsing
[08:10] <mc44> wolferine: well for one it says so in the X -version :) but you want "uname -r"
[08:10] <raeez> responding*
[08:10] <nofeardjb> shatrat: AIGLX works! weee beryl on my laptop! :D
[08:10] <wolferine> oh it does
[08:10] <shatrat> raeez, try booting without "quiet splash" at the end of your kernel options.
[08:10] <wolferine> well arent you just smrt
[08:10] <shatrat> nofeardjb, Icongratulations
[08:10] <nofeardjb> woohoo!
[08:10] <raeez> shatrat: i have, and i get the same result
[08:11] <nofeardjb> shatrat: ok, give something else to do with my time now lol
[08:11] <raeez> shatrat: it gets to the mounting local fielsystem part and stops there
[08:11] <shatrat> raeez, but can you at least see where it stops?
[08:11] <mrkris> anyone happen to know the tool that aids in install restricted formats and what not?
[08:12] <shatrat> raeez, k, well then it is definitely related to mounting the USB disk.  Maybe adding it permanently to your fstab would help, I dont know.  I dont like to use usb for anything but mice personally
[08:12] <Pici> !easyubuntu | Are you thinking of this mrkris:
[08:12] <ubotu> Are you thinking of this mrkris:: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:13] <nofeardjb> you may be thinking of automatix?
[08:13] <mrkris> ahh yes.
[08:13] <mrkris> both of those would work. thanks :)
[08:13] <nofeardjb> :D
[08:13] <shatrat> mrkris, I wouldnt recommend either, dont
[08:13] <mc44> !automatix | mrkris
[08:13] <ubotu> mrkris: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:13] <shatrat> !restricted | mrkris
[08:13] <ubotu> mrkris: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:13] <chona> please help...i can't make ./ work
[08:13] <nofeardjb> hehe i was waiting for that
[08:13] <mrkris> so i shouldn't even use easyubuntu ?
[08:13] <nofeardjb> you guys are quick
[08:13] <Pici> nofeardjb: Then why did you suggest it?
[08:14] <nofeardjb> Pici: cuz i knew that's what he was trying to remember
[08:14] <mrkris> I don't mind doing it by hand, but i'd prefer to just clicks a few buttons so i can get back to work.
[08:14] <nofeardjb> we weren't recommending it, just helping remember what he had forgotten
[08:14] <leafw> any guide on installing .deb packages from sources, so that I can tune the -march=nocona a la gentoo ?
[08:14] <shatrat> mrkris, its not much harder to go and do it using the guide I linked, and it wont hose your upgrade system
[08:14] <ndee> which ATI open source driver can I use for after 9200 chips?
[08:14] <mrkris> Ok.
[08:14] <shatrat> ndee, which one specifically?
[08:15] <ndee> shatrat: the FGL 9600
[08:15] <shatrat> ndee, oh.  hold on one second
[08:15] <ndee> ok
[08:16] <ndee> shatrat: http://ati.amd.com/products/fireglt2-128/index.html that one to be exact :)
[08:18] <shatrat> ndee, try the steps for the driver listed in this guide.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy   I believe the open source driver works with everything up to the x800 currently
[08:18] <shatrat> ndee, just the driver part of that guide, not necessarily any of the other stuff :)
[08:18] <drake> oh heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:18] <drake> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
[08:18] <swimmerino88> hello to evrebody i have a biggggggggg problem!!!mi kubuntu doesn't start!!!!after the login appears a black screen and then i come back to the login screen,i have pressed ctrl f1 and after the login i have this outputs  error -bash:  [:=: unary operator expected
[08:18] <nofeardjb> uh
[08:18] <drake> sudo
[08:19] <drake> sudo it up!
[08:19] <mc44> drake: please stop that
[08:19] <ndee> shatrat: ok, gonna test it :) thx!
[08:19] <toM|vendettA> hi i was wondering what program i should use to mass convert files from .ogg to .mp3?
[08:20] <ndee> shatrat: If you have ATI Radeon 9500 or above try [BinaryDriverHowto/ATI] . hhmmmm
[08:20] <mc44> toM|vendettA: soundconverter works well for me
[08:20] <ndee> ah, that is for xgl, etc
[08:20] <swimmerino88> PLEASE SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME?I NEED TO USE THE COMPUTER!
[08:20] <ndee> too bad that isn't too stable at the moment
[08:20] <mc44> !caps | swimmerino88
[08:20] <ubotu> swimmerino88: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:20] <swimmerino88> but nobody read me!
[08:22] <LMJ> ok swimmerino88
[08:22] <wheels3572> How do I see if something is Automounted
[08:22] <LMJ> what did you do recently ?
[08:22] <shatrat> ndee, well, I think that part is out of date.  I believe code is in the xorg "ati" driver for everything up to x800 by now, , but I dont use my 9600 anymore so I am still looking for confirmation
[08:22] <LMJ> did you edited some scripts or conf files ?
[08:22] <mc44> shatrat: I think thats the case, radeon doesnt exist anymore at least
[08:22] <ndee> shatrat: oh okay.
[08:23] <swimmerino88> LMJ can you hel me?
[08:23] <Hairy> ROFL
[08:23] <Hairy> this is awsome
[08:23] <LMJ> swimmerino88 : maybe, maybe not
[08:23] <LMJ> swimmerino88 : what did you do recently ?  did you edited some scripts or conf files ?
[08:24] <swimmerino88> LMJ yes!yesterday i installed postgres
[08:24] <pitch> guten abend
[08:24] <nofeardjb> guten tag
[08:24] <shatrat> servus
[08:24] <mc44> !de | pitch
[08:24] <ubotu> pitch: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:25] <nofeardjb> hehe
[08:25] <swimmerino88> LMJ in a guide there was written that i have to write a path in a file tha i don't remember then today i switch on my computer and now i can't acces!and i need to work!
[08:25] <ndee> shatrat: can I just remove the driver while I'm still in X?
[08:25] <hawke> what documentation exists for preseed configuration files?
[08:26] <shatrat> ndee, yeah, youll have to restart X and maybe reboot for changes to take effect.
[08:26] <nofeardjb> how can i get rid of all the server messages in IRC?
[08:26] <mc44> swimmerino88: try asking in #ubuntu-it if you want to ask in italian :)
[08:26] <ndee> shatrat: ok
[08:26] <Shaffox> @bush
[08:26] <swimmerino88> mc44:i don't want to ask there because no body help me!
[08:27] <sable> Is there a way to add a link to the package manger so that it installs it automatically?  manual installation of gcc sucks
[08:27] <swimmerino88> LMJ can we change the path?please!
[08:27] <ndee> shatrat: ok, I gonna reboot now :D
[08:27] <bmk789> i have 2 shortcuts to my jumpdrive on my desktop and i can only unmount 1   how can i get rid of the extra?
[08:27] <shatrat> ndee, good luck
[08:27] <swimmerino88> mc44 how do you know that i am italian?
[08:27] <hawke> the only preseed info I can find are example configurations
[08:27] <Shaffox> @now timezone
[08:27] <hawke> nothing saying what options exist, or what they mean
[08:27] <LMJ> swimmerino88 ; show me the file you edited
[08:27] <HymnToLife> swimmerino88, right-click on your nick :)
[08:28] <ndee> shatrat: and just replace "fglrx" in the Driver part with "radeon"?
[08:28] <LMJ> on paste.ubuntu......   check the topic swimmerino88
[08:28] <AlexC_> crap
[08:28] <swimmerino88>  LMJ:how can i show it if i can't acces in the computer!!!?
[08:28] <shatrat> ndee, "radeon" or "ati"  not sure exactly what the difference is.
[08:28] <ndee> shatrat: ok :)
[08:29] <swimmerino88>  LMJ: i said that i can acces only in text mode and now i am in an other computer
[08:29] <mc44> shatrat: well radeon seems to have dissapeared in edgy for one :)
[08:29] <shatrat> mc44, minor detail
[08:30] <LMJ> boot your computer, then press  CTRL+ALT+F2 , login with your usual login/password
[08:30] <swimmerino88>  LMJ:if i put echo $path my output is->/usr/local/pgsql/bin:.PATH how can i change it???
[08:30] <rpc> do you know how to install aclocal? which package is that?
[08:30] <LMJ> swimmerino88 : where did you put this ?
[08:30] <bmk789> how can i remove a duplicate device shortcut on my desktop?
[08:31] <Aaron> Is there a channel for ubuntu support?
[08:31] <LMJ> rpc  check http://packages.ubuntu.com and look for  aclocal,  or "apt-get update && apt-cache search aclocal"
[08:31] <Agrajag> Aaron: you're in it.
[08:31] <swimmerino88> LMJ:annn i don't remember
[08:31] <mc44> Aaron: this one
[08:31] <chona> please help me...i wrote a simple program in C which prints hello world. it compiled properly, but i can't run the object file..i changed the permission to 777 but still it can't run using ./
[08:31] <sable> Is there a way to add a link to the package manger so that it installs the newest gcc automatically?  manual installation of gcc sucks
[08:31] <swimmerino88> LMJ and i can't use sudo,kate, i can't use some commands!
[08:31] <Aaron> When I login I can't access anything under admin, all it says is "Access denied"
[08:32] <rpc> thank you lmj
[08:32] <LMJ> welcome rpc
[08:32] <wolferine> chona i can help
[08:32] <aoirthoir> ubuntu ROCKS!
[08:32] <LMJ> swimmerino88 ; you mess up your PATH stuff i guess
[08:32] <pollywog> anyone else getting PAM related errors in Edgy?
[08:32] <chona> please help me...i wrote a simple program in C which prints hello world. it compiled properly, but i can't run the object file..i changed the permission to 777 but still it can't run using ./..what shall i do???please..
[08:32] <Lynoure> chona: What happens when you try to run it?
[08:32] <pollywog> I get them because Courier is unable to open PAM modules
[08:32] <LMJ> chona   try in the same directory : ./<scriptname>
[08:32] <toM|vendettA> mc44: when i try to convert it with mp3's i get this error: LAME GStreamer plugin not found, desactivating MP3 output.
[08:33] <swimmerino88> LMJ:what?i don't understand
[08:33] <mc44> toM|vendettA: right, you need to install mp3 support
[08:33] <mc44> !mp3 | toM|vendettA
[08:33] <ubotu> toM|vendettA: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:33] <LMJ> swimmerino88 :  just find the file you edited first, that's the way to solve your problem
[08:33] <mc44> toM|vendettA: see the link above for how to do it
[08:33] <toM|vendettA> kty
[08:33] <plagerism> I am planning on creating a cluster(which kind and how I dont know) and I want to be able to deploy all nodes from the master using either a diskless system or a pxe network install.  I found a guide for using systemimager with 6.0.6 to deploy images across many computers, however in feisty the latest version of systemimager is fairly old(3.2.3).  Because I have no idea how well systemimager works, I am wondering
[08:33] <plagerism>  if anyone has experience using either systemimager or can suggest another approach to deploy images to nodes on a cluster
[08:34] <Aaron> Is there a modification I can make to restore access to my drupal admin account in drupal 4.7?
[08:34] <swimmerino88> LMJ how can i findi it if i can't do nothing!?
[08:34] <chona> i did..i sun it in the same directory..
[08:34] <LMJ> you can start your box and access to this box by pressing  "CTRL+ALT+F2" or via SSH to this box
[08:34] <chona> i can't even perform ./configure
[08:34] <nofeardjb> plagerism: norton ghost does something similiar, but idk if its related to what you want
[08:34] <Nitro> um
[08:34] <AMD> how come im the only one who has a hissing noise problem
[08:34] <dan_> hello
[08:35] <LMJ> swimmerino88 : or boot on a liveCD
[08:35] <plagerism> nofeardjb, I am aware of ghost, however would prefer a free alternative
[08:35] <TwoPints> hello, does anybody know if rdesktop can be used to help somone with remote assistance?
[08:35] <nofeardjb> i thought  that may be what you where thinkin..
[08:35] <Nitro> I have this annoying problem, I managed to install ubuntu, but I can't boot to it. You get the loader, it finishes,  you get a flashing _, 5 secs later it disappears, and nothing happens.
[08:35] <dan_> does anyone know how to connect to a windows remote desktop through ubuntu?
[08:35] <hawke> plagerism: preseed and kickstart do the job nicely for the pxe network install bit
[08:36] <ndee> shatrat: so, direct rendering is not enabled, I think I have to read up some more :D
[08:36] <swimmerino88> LMJ i put my  live cd
[08:36] <TwoPints> dan_: yes use rdesktop
[08:36] <_bt> dan_, rdesktop
[08:36] <Nitro> anyone know why it's happening?
[08:36] <LMJ> chona : ./configure is available only if you have a script called  configure to run it, it you want to compile a little C source code, you have to use a compiler like gcc with  "gcc -o ..." or so
[08:36] <ferret_0567> Ubuntu 6.10 generic kernel is weird. First of all, it's old. Second of all, I was running FAH on the same computer, a P4-M laptop, on FC6 and Ubuntu 6.10; Ubuntu 6.10 and FAH said: "Extra 3DNow boost OK.", FC6 and FAH said: "Extra SSE2 boost OK.", like it should.
[08:36] <dan_> thx guys
[08:36] <TwoPints> dan_: type.. rdeskop <machine_name>
[08:36] <ferret_0567> FAH seems to run slower on Ubuntu 6.10 than FC6
[08:37] <shatrat> ndee, im afraid so :(
[08:37] <wolferine> is there something like partition magic, which I can use to partition drives? (w/o losing data) ?
[08:37] <dan_> is it built into the default install or will i have to get the packages?
[08:37] <chona> i did..i can compile using gcc...but running is the problem...i cant make use of ./
[08:37] <plagerism> hawke: kickstart looks promising thank you, however whats preseed?
[08:37] <TwoPints> i believe it comes with the default install
[08:37] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with mounting my CD-Rom look at my fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5800/
[08:37] <pollywog> wolferine: qtparted or gparted
[08:37] <swimmerino88> LMJ is there a comand who i can see the lat files that i have modified?
[08:37] <TwoPints> dan_: but otherwise just apt-get it
[08:37] <dan_> its there
[08:37] <nofeardjb> preseeding all information i think is what s/he means
[08:37] <hawke> plagerism: preseed is the debian/ubuntu installer configuration system
[08:37] <evanschreier> hey guys i need help .. im trying to set up wireless using gtkwifi, i can connect to the network but i get no internet connection saying dhcp failed
[08:38] <aoirthoir> hey we are all snowed in...but I have my laptop with my work stuff with me..and can anyone guess what OS is on it?
[08:38] <aoirthoir> :D
[08:38] <hawke> plagerism: preseed is to ubuntu/debian as kickstart is to redhat
[08:38] <_bt> wheels3572, what problem are you having
[08:38] <nofeardjb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[08:38] <chona> after changing the permissions, from an error command not found, it changed to cannot perfprm binary file
[08:38] <LMJ> swimmerino88 better to check in your history command, you did the modification with the root account ?
[08:38] <TwoPints> dan_: in gnome its called terminal services client
[08:38] <hawke> though ubuntu also has a kickstart compatibility layer.
[08:38] <royel> anyone know what would be preventing a theme from updating the "start" button applications, places, system area, everything else updates correctly but those items.
[08:38] <wolferine> chone, you check your pm?
[08:38] <swimmerino88> LMJ http://www.psql.it/?q=comment/reply/49 i think that i did it
[08:38] <aoirthoir> what is kickstart
[08:38] <wolferine> or do you not know what that is ?
[08:39] <hawke> aoirthoir: an automated network-based install system
[08:39] <chona> wolferine, how can i check my pm?
[08:39] <plagerism> hawke: oh I definately would like a debian based node so preseed, however hawke after the install will this also retain my manual configuration changes?
[08:39] <swimmerino88> LMJ yes i did!
[08:39] <signature16> Is there a way to get VLC Media Player to play files over a network?
[08:39] <wheels3572> _bt, nevermind i figured it out.  the fstab was pointing to hdd and my cd-rom now that I only have 1 is hdc and it was noauto instead of auto
[08:39] <wolferine> nm
[08:39] <ferret_0567> I hope for Ubuntu 7.04, the kernel version is VERY recent, the kernel does not have useless junk compiled in and that weird things like that are fixed by giving the user i686, i386, and i586 kernels like it used to be, plus giving a "generic" kernel.
[08:39] <wheels3572> got it though ty
[08:39] <aoirthoir> hawke COOL!
[08:39] <hawke> plagerism: there's a compat. layer for kickstart, so you can also use kickstart with debian/ubuntu
[08:39] <chona> i checked everything in the permissions but still it can't work
[08:39] <LMJ> to the cdrom problem guy, you could type  "mount /media/cdrom0"
[08:40] <ferret_0567> I do NOT have 3DNow
[08:40] <aoirthoir> i hate 3dnow
[08:40] <hawke> plagerism: preseed/kickstart only cover installation, so yes of course they'll retain manual config changes
[08:40] <LMJ> where is the editing like swimmerino88 ?
[08:40] <hawke> plagerism: of course, if you're talking about upgrades that's an entirely different matter
[08:40] <chona> please help me...i wrote a simple program in C which prints hello world. it compiled properly, but i can't run the object file..i changed the permission to 777 but still it can't run using ./..what shall i do???please..
[08:40] <Lynoure> ferret_0567: more efficient to voice that kernel concern on #ubuntu+1 or even on the developer channel
[08:40] <mc44> ferret_0567: it makes neglible difference to your performance, and is optimised for i686 anyway
[08:40] <Lynoure> chona: please stop repeating that
[08:40] <ferret_0567> I have SSE2. Something is wrong. I checked the MD5SUM on the FAH, too.
[08:40] <YoshiG3> Hey guys, is it safe to update now? I have like 24 updates that are still waiting, including the kernel
[08:40] <wolferine> lol
[08:40] <chona> i need answers..
[08:41] <chona> please
[08:41] <wolferine> goto C
[08:41] <hardcampa> chona you shouldn't be able to run object files
[08:41] <wolferine> they will help you
[08:41] <wolferine> this is an OS help room
[08:41] <silox> Hi, I have a problem with my laptop, a Dell Inspiron 8100. Both internal USB ports are broken so I have to use an external card. This works well but there is one problem, the internal USB ports gives this error "hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 1" and "hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2" over and over again in the terminal. I cant disable USB in BIOS.. Any ideas?
[08:41] <LMJ> chona : you are on an Ubuntu chat, NOT a C channel, nothing related to Ubuntu in your problem
[08:41] <swimmerino88> LMJ I have found yhe site!!!!!!!
[08:41] <ferret_0567> Thanks, I
[08:41] <swimmerino88> LMJ now i know the file!!!!
[08:41] <aoirthoir> mount /media/girlfriend
[08:41] <ferret_0567> Thanks, I'll do that later. For now, schoolwork.
[08:41] <plagerism> hawke: thank you very much,
[08:41] <LMJ> yes, i saw the tutorial swimmerino88,   what is the file ?
[08:41] <evanschreier> should i go to a diffferent channel for help on wifi connections in ubuntu?
[08:42] <Hairy> mount /media/girlfriend - ROFL. I feel lonley today
[08:42] <ted_> hi. I have a USB HP Deskjet-990C printer connected to 192.168.1.2. I am trying to print using another machine. On that other machine I have entered the following in the Admin - Printing settings : 'ipp://192.168.1.2:631/printers/Deskjet-990C'. When I send a text file to the printer, the printer activates but just prints garbage. Any ideas?
[08:42] <Hairy> :P
[08:42] <aoirthoir> Hairy: :D lol
[08:42] <Lynoure> !wifi | evanschreier
[08:42] <ubotu> evanschreier: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:42] <Hairy> clean  the print heads?
[08:42] <Lynoure> evanschreier: nope, this one is fine :)
[08:42] <wolferine> have a google trigger?
[08:42] <Hairy> Could be a driver error?
[08:42] <hawke> Is there an installation manual / documentation for Dapper anywhere?
[08:42] <swimmerino88> LMJ i put this lines yesterday->LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pgsql/lib
[08:42] <swimmerino88>                                                  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[08:42] <YoshiG3> Hey guys, is it safe to update now? I have like 24 updates that are still waiting, including the kernel
[08:42] <chona> my problem is with ubuntu...i installed the packages i needed but i can't make use of it..
[08:42] <aoirthoir> hawk go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[08:43] <LMJ> hawk ; look for something like this in google  : "perfect installation of ubuntu dapper"  or so
[08:43] <mc44> YoshiG3: when was it not safe to update?
[08:43] <hawke> I can find one for breezy and warty, nothing for dapper
[08:43] <YoshiG3> mc44: Well there was an error with the linux kernel update a while back
[08:43] <YoshiG3> probably a week
[08:43] <evanschreier> thanks
[08:43] <aoirthoir> hawk i gave you the address
[08:43] <aoirthoir> chona how did you install the packages?
[08:43] <mc44> YoshiG3: its fine now
[08:43] <swimmerino88> LMJ and then i did            cd /etc               kedit profile
[08:43] <wolferine> hehe
[08:43] <LMJ> ok swimmerino88    expert only modify the environnement variable inside the session, it doesn't stay up after a reboot
[08:44] <wolferine> this channel is nutz
[08:44] <Lynoure> mc44: last summer, when there was the X problem in Dapper :)
[08:44] <LMJ> yes wolferine ;)
[08:44] <rpc> WARNING: `aclocal-1.4' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy on your system <---damn it, i have it in /usr/bin and it says i got none
[08:44] <hawke> aoirthoir: ubuntuguide is only an "unofficial" manual; I'm looking for something like the official manual at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/
[08:44] <rpc> how do i solve this puzzle?
[08:44] <hawke> only for dapper
[08:44] <swimmerino88> LMJ:now i'm in the live cd how can i modified that thing?
[08:44] <drake> hey guays
[08:45] <drake> how would i be able to reinstall edgy
[08:45] <drake> without losing everything?
[08:45] <aoirthoir> hawk ok
[08:45] <chona> using sudo apt-get install...it installed properly, i guess... because i've used it before..its only after installing the libmysqlclient14-dev that everything can;t work
[08:45] <Lynoure> rpc: What's the it that is saying that you do not have it?
[08:45] <mc44> drake: well, you could backup your home directory
[08:45] <Zaggynl> !blacklist
[08:45] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[08:45] <silox> Hi, I have a problem with my laptop, a Dell Inspiron 8100. Both internal USB ports are broken so I have to use an external card. This works well but there is one problem, the internal USB ports gives this error "hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 1" and "hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2" over and over again in the terminal. I cant disable USB in BIOS.. Anyone???
[08:45] <aoirthoir> hawk: does this help maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[08:46] <drake> mc44: alright
[08:46] <ferret_0567> Does the zip command/File-roller compress zip files as well as WinZip 9.0?
[08:46] <dan_> anyone familiar with gfire?
[08:46] <chona> using sudo apt-get install...it installed properly, i guess... because i've used it before..its only after installing the libmysqlclient14-dev that everything can't work
[08:46] <ferret_0567> What is gfire?
[08:46] <mc44> ferret_0567: Im pretty sure they will be using the same compression algorithm
[08:46] <hawke> aoirthoir: nope, but this does: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/index.html  Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[08:46] <LMJ> swimmerino88 switch in root, then   in a console :   mkdir /mnt/myhd     then, mount /dev/(sda?/hda?)  /mnt/myhd    and then, cd /mnt/myhd  and edit the file your modified using a command line text editor like "vi" or "nano"
[08:46] <pollywog> is that a gaim plugin for xfire?
[08:46] <dan_> it is xfire plugin for gaim
[08:46] <ferret_0567> !gfire
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <dimeotane> anyone know a good way to password protect or encrypt a folder?
[08:46] <ferret_0567> !xfire
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <chona> using sudo apt-get install...it installed properly, i guess... because i've used it before..its only after installing the libmysqlclient14-dev that everything can't work
[08:47] <LMJ> dimeotane  gpg in command line
[08:47] <ferret_0567> Try TrueCrypt or GPG
[08:47] <aoirthoir> hawke:  your welcome
[08:47] <mgmiller> anyone know of a good standalone music equalizer?
[08:47] <swimmerino88> LMJ with the live?
[08:47] <dan_> windows media player!
[08:47] <LMJ> ye
[08:47] <mgmiller> hah
[08:47] <ferret_0567> Both are very good for different scenarios
[08:47] <chona> please help me...i wrote a simple program in C which prints hello world. it compiled properly, but i can't run the object file..i changed the permission to 777 but still it can't run using ./..what shall i do???please..i have installed build-essential using sudo apt-get install...it installed properly, i guess... because i've used it before..its only after installing the libmysqlclient14-dev that everything can't work
[08:48] <wolferine> lol
[08:48] <LMJ> chona : we don't care actually
[08:48] <dimeotane> ferret_0567: I tried to get truecrypt to work... have you used it?  It seems to make the drive only useable from root
[08:48] <Lynoure> chona: stop spamming the channel with your c stuff, please
[08:48] <pumpkinhea1> chona why don't you uninstall the dev package
[08:48] <pollywog> chona: this channel is for Ubuntu
[08:48] <LMJ> LMAO this guy
[08:48] <wolferine> dont give him ideas!
[08:48] <aoirthoir> i hate windowz medial player
[08:49] <pollywog> oh good he gave up
[08:49] <pollywog> or he went to get friends
[08:49] <wolferine> O_o
[08:49] <LMJ> this guys
[08:49] <LMJ> lmao
[08:49] <salty-horse> why does bugreport send to ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com and not launchpad? a) it's moderated. b) does anyone read it? (i was actually secretly hoping it sends to debian :)
[08:49] <scheuri> hi all
[08:49] <iratik> http://pastie.caboo.se/40324   on line 11, i'll reject http requests and https requests if I don't put something here !? what do i do ?
[08:49] <dimeotane> howdy
[08:49] <exwebjunkie> evening
[08:50] <dimeotane> exwebjunkie: you must be in europe?
[08:50] <mc44> salty-horse: its not moderated
[08:50] <elyon225> For some reason, every now and then when I log into Ubuntu, it opens up about four file browsers for my home directory.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[08:50] <pap3rw8> hey i've got an atheros wifi card that isnt working in 6.10, any ideas? it has power but doesn't show up in networking
[08:50] <scheuri> My DVD-Multidrive (LG GSA-H10A) gets recognised by my Barebone (Asus V2-P2G965 with intel G965/ICH8), and loads the install routine of Ubuntu, but the install routine then does not recognise a cd-rom to get the packages from...its on IDE not SATA...anyone an idea?
[08:51] <exwebjunkie> dimeotane:  i am
[08:51] <mc44> salty-horse: and because launchpad isnt set up to do bugs like that yet
[08:51] <swimmerino88> LMJ now i am as root and i am in /mnt/myhd/ and now?
[08:51] <exwebjunkie> London to be more specific.
[08:51] <mc44> salty-horse: and lots of people do read it
[08:51] <salty-horse> mc44, i got a standard mailman reply: "The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list"
[08:51] <ndee> shatrat: ok, now I have direct rendering enabled. So, how can I get OpenGL to wokr?
[08:51] <ndee> :D
[08:51] <firephoto> scheuri: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[08:51] <shatrat> ndee, same thing
[08:51] <mc44> salty-horse: yes, you have to be signed up to the list to post to it, its not moderated though and anyone can sign up
[08:51] <scheuri> firephoto: I tried 6.06.1 and 7.04 Herd 3....
[08:51] <LMJ> pap3rw8 , any modules related to wifi loaded ? can you see it in "lspci -v"   can you see a device  with  iwconfig command ?
[08:52] <mc44> salty-horse: its to prevent spam
[08:52] <scheuri> firephoto: actually even netinst of Etch
[08:52] <dan_> when i updated my nvidia driver, it installed another kernal....would it be a good idea to re,ove the old one?
[08:52] <shatrat> ndee, if it says direct rendering then you have openGL acceleration.
[08:52] <LMJ> swimmerino88 you mounted your hd partition ?
[08:52] <firephoto> scheuri: the live cd or the alternate?
[08:52] <scheuri> firephoto: alternate...
[08:53] <Hairy> Stork?
[08:53] <pap3rw8> iwconfig shows no wireless devices, but it does show up in lspci as an ar5212 chip
[08:53] <ndee> shatrat: but when I let a opengl screensaver running, it's incredibly slow.
[08:53] <swimmerino88> LMJ yes now i am in root@ubuntu:/mnt/myhd# but if i write dir i can't see nothing!!!!
[08:53] <rpc> do you know which file holds info for checking stuff? so the configure produces output like checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing <[08:53] <salty-horse> mc44, it's a trivial bug in debian too - is it ok to post in debian after i sent it to ubuntu-users? (i usually craft by debian bug reports by hand and not with reportbug)
[08:53] <firephoto> scheuri: that was broke, i think the latest daily might be fixed. the live cd should work with that though. feisty. edgy cd won't.
[08:53] <mc44> salty-horse: you could just file it on launchpad directly
[08:53] <LMJ> swimmerino88   did you do something related with  "mount"  yet ?
[08:53] <mgmiller_> anyone know of any decent standalone audio equalizers?
[08:53] <scheuri> firephoto: do you know what is broke exactly? and why does edgy not work? is ICH8 too new?
[08:53] <swimmerino88> LMJ nothing!
[08:54] <salty-horse> mc44, but then it will bounce back to debian and up to ubuntu again. i'd rather prevent the bouncing
[08:54] <firephoto> scheuri: the edgy cd is missing the module for the ide controller. edgy + updates would work but that isn't much good for a new install.
[08:54] <mc44> salty-horse: its probably better to just report it to debian then, if you are sure it is a problem in debian too
[08:55] <LMJ> swimmerino88 , why you just don't simply mount the partition who is your / on the system, edit the file your fucked, umount the partition, reboot the livecd ?
[08:55] <scheuri> firephoto: oh, that is actually bad...do you know which module that would be? and is it included in feisty?
[08:55] <LMJ> swimmerino88 : google now
[08:55] <LMJ> fucked file*
[08:55] <shatrat> ndee, well, I can't help you there.  It's possible that its just because opengl support through the open driver for newer ATI cards is fairly recent and very fast yet
[08:55] <mc44> LMJ: please dont swear
[08:55] <ndee> shatrat: ah ok :) thanks anyway :)
[08:55] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone know when Feisty comes out?
[08:55] <ndee> don't need opengl so far
[08:55] <swimmerino88> LMJ i search in google but i didn't found nothing!
[08:56] <LMJ> i don't mc44,  let's go for  "messup file"
[08:56] <firephoto> scheuri: i'm running feisty on an intel dg965ss, works good.. mine uses the pata_marvell module, your might be the pata_jmicron module.
[08:56] <ndee> that's also the reason why I installed ubuntu, no more gaming during school ;)
[08:56] <LMJ> swimmerino88 :  how to use a live cd to edit to mount a partition ;)
[08:56] <abhinay> hi all
[08:57] <scheuri> firephoto: heyheyhey...yes....jmicron rings a HUGE bell...its is exactly the name that appears during POST...so jmicron is broke and I need new feisty (daily), right?
[08:57] <abhinay> iam getting this error while i do ./configure to any source package, checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!, Any Idea ?
[08:57] <firephoto> scheuri: yep, should be fine. it's not really broken, just watch the updates carefully.
[08:58] <P-E> a
[08:58] <erf> Im tired of using fluxbox in freebsd
[08:58] <erf> is there anything else I can use
[08:58] <scheuri> firephoto: I will...any hint if there is a good URL to get updated about the updates of feisty?
[08:58] <n2diy>   ! FTA
[08:58] <dimeotane> ok I've installed pgp and seahorse... I right click on the file and made a .pgp file.... now when I want to open it what do I use?  no program is associated with .pgp files
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <n2diy> ! FTA
[08:59] <dimeotane> erf: how about xfce  that's nice and light
[08:59] <ubuntus> hello, can i update ubuntu 7.04 alpha to the official realise?
[08:59] <pavement> skarface: try ubuntu for your desktop
[08:59] <firephoto> scheuri: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/feisty-changes
[08:59] <erf> for freebsd?
[08:59] <pic_> heya all
[08:59] <nofeardjb> xfce rocks
[08:59] <erf> is there a port for it and do I have to restart
[08:59] <erf> I mean I like my uptime stats
[08:59] <ubuntus> does ubuntu 7.04 support any security updates?
[08:59] <abhinay> Where are by x libraries then ?
[09:00] <scheuri> firephoto: thanks a lot!!!
[09:00] <scheuri> firephoto: now I know what keywords to google for
[09:00] <LMJ> dimeotane  why not simply  try the command line way with pgp ?
[09:00] <firephoto> scheuri: np
[09:00] <ubuntus> 
[09:01] <dimeotane> LMJ:  I'm listening..
[09:01] <salty-horse> mc44, i could have used reportbug --bts debian :)
[09:02] <LMJ> dimeotane ; let's say, something like  gpg --help and then,  man gpg,  you will learn how to encrypt a file or a partition or so, and decrypt it easily,, you have to be aware about private/public key maybe too
[09:02] <ferret_0567> TrueCrypt will only allow you to map and mount the encrypted file or partition from root but if you select that you don't want to mount the file/partition you can do this to mount the encrypted file user writable with vfat partition type: sudo mount -t vfat -o defaults,uid=<your user id>,gid=<your group id> /dev/mapper/truecrypt* <mountpoint>
[09:02] <erf> downloading the tar now
[09:02] <erf> for xfce
[09:02] <erf> thing is
[09:03] <Pici> !enter
[09:03] <elyon225> For some reason, every now and then when I log into Ubuntu, it opens up about four file browsers for my home directory.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[09:03] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:03] <erf> am i going to have to restart the machine for xfce
[09:03] <ferret_0567> Surprisingly, you don't even have to use "-o loop"
[09:03] <scheuri> firephoto: thanks again....
[09:04] <AMD> help ^^^^
[09:04] <Hairy> Valentines day sucks :(
[09:04] <AMD> $ sudo mount /media/Samsung
[09:04] <AMD> Couldn't mount device '/dev/hda2': Invalid argument
[09:04] <pollywog> Hairy: unless you are a chocolatier or florist
[09:04] <exs> guys, I'm having a bit of trouble. A few programs will not work on my ubuntu 6.10. First, my vmware player and server stopped working. They would load for about 5 seconds then quit. This is the same behaviour as aMSN, it loads then quits before the GUI comes up. I think synaptic might have made an error and removed a certain needed library/file etc... is there any way I can make aMSN run via installing all the file sit needs al over again so that
[09:04] <exs>  the files it needs are defintely not damaged? Thanks!
[09:04] <Hairy> HAH yeah. Or you have  a hot girlfriend
[09:05] <Hairy> tunfortunatly. I have none of the above >.<
[09:05] <YoshiG3> Guys, I have a new font- and I don't know where it goes. It's a .tff. Where do fonts go in linux?
[09:05] <ferret_0567> Yup, just random jibberish :). TrueCrypt rocks!
[09:05] <pollywog> Hairy: but you have Ubuntu
[09:05] <bones_> hi anyone know how to convert a oo presentation to a movie?
[09:05] <AMD> can any one help me mount this /dev/hda2 /media/Samsung ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0
[09:05] <bobby_> YoshiG3: Im not sure but you can do a find /usr -name "*.ttf*" -print
[09:05] <bobby_> and youll find out
[09:06] <Hairy> talk in otehr chat :)
[09:06] <trev_> does anyone know how to export a gaim buddy list using the aim protocol?
[09:07] <sorush20> hi are there any gui music score writing programs out there?
[09:07] <unop> YoshiG3,  users can place fonts in ~/.fonts i believe
[09:07] <erf> xfce is isntalling , will anyone using freebsd , will i have to reboot to ge it start it
[09:08] <sorush20> how do I reboot without rebooting?
[09:08] <sorush20> is there a command ?
[09:08] <unop> sorush20,  man shutdown
[09:08] <dimeotane> erf: maybe you'll need to logout and start a new session with xfce as your wm selected?
[09:08] <pbureau> sorush20,  what you mean reboot without rebooting ? you mean "sudo shutdown -r now : ?
[09:08] <pbureau> sorush20,  what you mean reboot without rebooting ? you mean "sudo shutdown -r now : ?
[09:08] <pbureau> opps
[09:08] <Hairy> \Feels unloved
[09:08] <erf> ah nice , thanks
[09:09] <erf> i can even get freebsd help in ubuntu
[09:09] <erf> =)
[09:09] <erf> thanks again
[09:09] <Hairy> :)
[09:09] <YoshiG3> um, guys, why is my ubuntu telling me that "you are not the owner, you cannot change the permissions to these files"
[09:09] <YoshiG3> ?!?!?!
[09:09] <HymnToLife> YoshiG3, because you are not the owner
[09:09] <dimeotane> YoshiG3: maybe its a file owned by root?
[09:09] <YoshiG3> um, yes I am
[09:09] <HymnToLife> thus you can't change permissions :)
[09:09] <pbureau> YoshiG3, probably owned by root try using sudo in front of the chmod command
[09:09] <YoshiG3> so I have to sudo?
[09:09] <erf> ok if I log out and start a new session
[09:10] <pap3rw8> i've got 3 network cards, none of which can get an IP in ubuntu. the cable is fine, and one of the cards tested worked out of the box in fedora
[09:10] <matt1234> anyone know how to enable CLI php execution?
[09:10] <matt1234> i've got apache and php setup, but it wont work on the command line
[09:10] <erf> what would i type to start the sesssion
[09:10] <erf> xfce
[09:10] <erf> ?
[09:10] <HymnToLife> matt1234, sudo apt-get install php(4|5)-clo
[09:10] <HymnToLife> cli*
[09:10] <pap3rw8> if it matters the current card is a realtek 8169
[09:10] <pbureau> pap3rw8, lspci whats cards are reconized?>
[09:10] <matt1234> HymnToLife, thanks
[09:11] <pap3rw8> linksys gigabit network adapter, and it shows up in networking and lspci
[09:11] <pap3rw8> but it cant get an ip, and static doesnt work either
[09:12] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[09:12] <Hairy> Must be a dogey card?
[09:12] <bones_> can an open office slideshow be converted to a movie somehow?
[09:12] <pap3rw8> it was working fine yesterday in a different system, and two other cards i tried also failed
[09:12] <YoshiG3> how do I sudo from a file browser?
[09:12] <dimeotane> ferret_0567: in the example you gave.... is the mountpoint the truecrypt file location?  or is it /media/tc
[09:12] <n2diy> ! HTPC
[09:12] <matt1234> HymnToLife, its working now, but now when i run a script, it brings the bash prompt to the end of the script output, instead of the lower left like normal, any idea what thats about?
[09:12] <Hairy> drivers?
[09:12] <LjL> YoshiG3: gksudo nautilus, if you really have to
[09:13] <Hairy> Is it a PCI card?
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <Hairy> Is it seater properly?
[09:13] <pap3rw8> yea its pci, its in there snugly. how do i check drivers?
[09:13] <erf> ok done
[09:13] <dimeotane> erf
[09:13] <erf> now
[09:13] <matt1234> HymnToLife, its working now, but now when i run a script, it brings the bash prompt to the end of the script output, instead of the lower left like normal, any idea what thats about?
[09:13] <erf> i log out
[09:13] <erf> and start xfce
[09:13] <erf> ?
[09:14] <erf> or run xfce
[09:14] <erf> ?
[09:14] <dimeotane> the command for xfce from the command line is something like startxfce4 i think
[09:14] <syzygyBSD> how can I get rsync to show what files it is copying?
[09:14] <dimeotane> Or .. at least in ubuntu you can log out and choose a new session with the new windows manager from the login screen
[09:15] <unop> syzygyBSD,  rsync -v ...
[09:15] <midgetg0at> anyone know how to get a dv cam working as webcam in ubuntu edgy?
[09:15] <midgetg0at> sony dcr-hc21
[09:15] <syzygyBSD> heh, should have guessed that, thought it would show other ugly stuff though
[09:15] <syzygyBSD> thanks
[09:15] <ferret_0567> The mountpoint is like /media/tc, yes
[09:15] <dimeotane> thx
[09:16] <tanascar> Can anybody tell me why I get a invalid module format when I try to do modprobe 8139too?
[09:16] <ferret_0567> Wherever you want the mountpoint to be
[09:16] <pbureau> pap3rw8,  do lshw -class network and look for driver= also check they if the device is not DISABLED or UNCLAIMED
[09:16] <dimeotane> ferret_0567: so I don't need to specify the location of the truecrypt file ?
[09:16] <likwidtek> trying to install sunbird on ubuntu 6.10 I am trying to create the menu item using "sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/sunbird.desktop" but it just hangs at the terminal with a blinking cursor
[09:16] <erf> hmm fluxbox started again
[09:16] <likwidtek> any idea why?
[09:16] <erf> do I have to edit a file
[09:16] <ferret_0567> You do, when you map the TrueCrypt volume under /dev/mapper/truecrypt*
[09:16] <Tominator> hi i've got a problem compiling cdemu: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7545/ somebody gave me this link http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/09/19/bad-fd-number , but "bash make" doesnt work either...
[09:16] <dimeotane> erf: dunno.. i use ubuntu
[09:17] <pap3rw8> lshw shows disabled
[09:17] <YoshiG3> Why won't it let me find a file on my desktop
[09:17] <dyrne> Tominator: is there a reason you couldnt grab the binary?
[09:17] <pap3rw8> how do i enable it?
[09:17] <carbm1> rsync -v --progress
[09:17] <YoshiG3> I navigated, in terminal, to my desktop- still will NOT let me copy a file..."cannot stat file not found etc etc etc"
[09:17] <pbureau> pap3rw8, ah, try ifconfig <card> up
[09:17] <Tominator> dyrne: what do you mean?
[09:18] <n2diy> ! Freevo
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freevo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <pap3rw8> ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: device or resource busy.
[09:18] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[09:19] <likwidtek> trying to install sunbird on ubuntu 6.10 I am trying to create the menu item using "sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/sunbird.desktop" but it just hangs at the terminal with a blinking cursor - Any idea why?
[09:19] <YoshiG3> Why is it telling me that afile isn't there, although it really is?!?!!
[09:19] <root____1> ah its working
[09:19] <carbm1> Anybody know of a good IP scanner similar to Angry IP Scanner?
[09:19] <root____1> I did a startxfce
[09:19] <dimeotane> ferret_0567:  the truecrypt manual shows the -u flag as " useful when mounting a filesystem like FAT under a  non-admin
[09:19] <dimeotane>               user account."  I tried that but it didn't seem to help... Don't you think that's what should work to mount a file under a user?
[09:20] <root____1> and its up and running and it looks purdy on a freebsd 6.0 server box
[09:20] <root____1> thanks dimeotane
[09:20] <matt1234> can someone help me figure out why after i run a script, my command prompt is not where it normally is?
[09:20] <dimeotane> np
[09:20] <ProN00b> is there any solution to make gui programs as easy as with the .net stuff on linux ? (a gui designer with a ide)
[09:20] <dimeotane> I like xfce for use on 'lighter' systems
[09:20] <root____1> lets see if I can post a pic
[09:20] <VrilutZa> A have edition server
[09:20] <ferret_0567> That's different
[09:21] <ProN00b> carbm1, nmap is not similar, but some might say its better
[09:21] <ferret_0567> That's if you want to let TrueCrypt call the mount command for you with "-t auto"
[09:21] <likwidtek> anyone use sunbird?
[09:21] <ferret_0567> I don't let truecrypt mount stuff for me because I don't think it works
[09:22] <Crescendo_> carbm1, nmap
[09:22] <Crescendo_> !nmap
[09:22] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[09:22] <VrilutZa> HOWTO Traffic Control per ip
[09:22] <signature16> It seems the Gnome menu bar has frozen...is there a way to fix that without restarting?
[09:22] <ferret_0567> killall gnome-panel in terminal
[09:23] <ferret_0567> Go to Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, and type that
[09:23] <pap3rw8> or do ctrl-alt-shift-F1 to kill gnome
[09:23] <carbm1> I have used nmap before... and yes it does give, sometimes in great detail, what you need. But IP Scanner is fast... I can my DHCP network with well over 200 clients and I can quickly click on them to remote desktop. Is there a similar program for Linux?
[09:23] <unop> ProN00b,  check out glade and GTK .. i believe you can also use .NET (mono) bindings for GTK
[09:23] <ferret_0567> That requires a logout
[09:23] <YoshiG3> Guys, this is really pissing me off. I'm tryign to copy a damn file, and it's not working.
[09:23] <tanascar> can someone help me with sudo modprobe 8139too causingan invalid module format?
[09:24] <YoshiG3> I'm doing everything correctly, I"m pretty sure
[09:24] <signature16> ferret_0567:  I cant access terminal without the panel.  is there a way to do it without ctrl alt fx
[09:24] <ProN00b> unop, i don't want to use anything .net, but rather something based on c or c++
[09:24] <unop> ProN00b,  then gtk and glade are exactly what you want
[09:24] <ProN00b> unop, well, glade just creates those design xml files which i can then use.... somehow *_*
[09:24] <ferret_0567> Yeah, kill GNOME and logout, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or what the other person said
[09:24] <ferret_0567> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will work
[09:25] <SpudDogg> Is there more than one source to get the w32codecs package?  The one I found via a search is freecontrib.org and it had been down for DAYS now.
[09:25] <pbureau> !w32codecs
[09:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:25] <ferret_0567> Ctrl+Alt+F1 is just like Terminal, except less colorful :)
[09:25] <unop> ProN00b,  really, if you spend a little time learning how to bind the glade in your c code, you'll be ok
[09:25] <unop> glade xml*
[09:25] <LouReed> hi
[09:25] <LouReed> help me
[09:26] <LouReed> gaim cant permit to join #ubuntu-it
[09:26] <pbureau> !ask | LouReed
[09:26] <ubotu> LouReed: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:26] <Khem> edgy comes without inittab/getty.  What's the new way to launch a serial login?
[09:26] <ubuntus> hello, when i try to add an applet or to remove applet from panel i get error message
[09:26] <LouReed> but permit to join in another rooms
[09:26] <LouReed> why?
[09:26] <LouReed> !ask LouReed
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask loureed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <LouReed> !ask
[09:26] <dyrne> Tominator: sorry i misunderstood.  i did compile cdemu not too long ago just had to download linux-kernel-source i think
[09:26] <LjL> Khem, i don't quite know, sorry, but you may find some of that information at
[09:26] <LjL> !upstart > Khem    (Khem, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:26] <ubuntus> maybe this is an bag
[09:26] <ProN00b> unop, even after learning that, it will still take quite some more time than using something like the .net ide's...
[09:26] <dimeotane> ferret_0567: i've made a new fat 'truecrypt' volume... how do I map it ?
[09:26] <Tominator> dyrne: okay I'll try
[09:27] <i_want_to_run_li> hi im trying to connect to the internet wirelessly on my laptop with ubtuntu 6.06 my network is identifyed in networking. but when i enter my wep password i cannot connect to the internet for some reason
[09:27] <LouReed> why?
[09:27] <adam__> join #ubuntuforums
[09:27] <i_want_to_run_li> any help would be appericated
[09:27] <dimeotane> after I map it I can try your mount command
[09:27] <ferret_0567> sudo truecrypt -i and follow the directions
[09:27] <dimeotane> k
[09:27] <ubuntus> problem with : oaffid:gnome_MultiLoadApplet
[09:27] <LouReed> how i donwload the mp3 codecs?
[09:27] <ubuntus> how to resolve this error..
[09:27] <pbureau> i_want_to_run_li, are you selecting open or shared key ?
[09:28] <SpudDogg> i_want_to_run_li, put the key in your /etc/network/interfaces file, then reboot
[09:28] <pbureau> i_want_to_run_li, is the router configured for WEP or WPA ?
[09:28] <IdahoEv> first install help:  ubuntu booted off the CD with screen res 640x480.   On the first screen of the installer (select language), I cannot see the "OK" button, it is off the bottom.  I can't resize the window, scroll the window, move the window up far enough to see the button.  Nor can I change my screen resolution via the system control panel.  How do I proceed?
[09:28] <LjL> !mp3 > LouReed    (LouReed, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:28] <LouReed> hey???
[09:28] <LouReed> how i can install the mp3 codec?
[09:28] <tanascar> can someone help me with sudo modprobe 8139too causing an invalid module format
[09:28] <LjL> LouReed: look at what the bot just told you
[09:28] <LouReed> ok ;)
[09:29] <pbureau> tanascar, and you use sudo modprobe ?
[09:29] <blue|palm> I have a problem with fstab and usb hdds... everytime i insert a new usb hdd, it gets added to fstab. Then if the entry is still in /etc/fstab when i restart, and the usb hdd is still in, kubuntu refuses to boot! If i remove the usb hdd (with the entry in fstab still) then kubuntu boots. If i have no entry for that usb hdd in fstab (in other words i remove it from fstab after its automatically added) then kubuntu boots fine with the hdd
[09:29] <blue|palm> in. Is there anyway i can fix this since i boot with 2 external data storage harddrives all the time?
[09:29] <tanascar> pbureau: trying to get my net card configured under a very 'bare' ubuntu install
[09:29] <blue|palm> So that i dont have to remove them each time i want to boot?
[09:29] <dimeotane> ferret_: here's what i got, "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/truecrypt0,"
[09:29] <tanascar> need to get my card working so I can clear up all my packages
[09:30] <unop> ProN00b,  what can i say? this is the state of affairs for free software, it's good but not perfect :)
[09:30] <midgetg0at> anyone running a webcam on edgy?
[09:30] <dyrne> Tominator: linux-source and linux-headers-$(uname -r)    maybe
[09:30] <pbureau> midgetg0at, yep
[09:30] <ProN00b> unop, thats sucky
[09:30] <midgetg0at> any ideas how i can get my dvcam working as a webcam via usb..works with windows
[09:30] <ProN00b> unop, got any example app for that glade thing ?
[09:31] <Pici> !webcam | Take a look here first midgetg0at
[09:31] <ubotu> Take a look here first midgetg0at: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:31] <pbureau> midgetg0at, not really I plugged my cam in it saw it in 'lsusb', is yours reconized ?
[09:31] <midgetg0at> i have no idea how to check.
[09:31] <LP187> fuck!
[09:31] <midgetg0at> lsusb....
[09:31] <dkrou> ola
[09:31] <pbureau> que tal?
[09:31] <ubuntus> it is recommended to install an firewall ?
[09:31] <unop> ProN00b,  I don't code that much , i've tried glade with perl but only a few widgets
[09:32] <midgetg0at> yea, its the first device listed when i type lsusb
[09:32] <LouReed> where i find mpeg codecs?
[09:32] <LjL> ubuntus: if you don't run services, i don't find it particularly important
[09:32] <midgetg0at> Sony Corp. Handycam DCR-30
[09:32] <LjL> !firewall > ubuntus    (ubuntus, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:32] <dimeotane> lp187: i know it's valentines. but people usually do it behind closed doors
[09:32] <OllieD> private
[09:32] <pbureau> midgetg0at, check the link ubotu gave you...
[09:32] <mwe> ubuntus: by default nothing is listening so it's not needed
[09:32] <midgetg0at> going to the first one.
[09:33] <siodine> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu, and I can't change my resolution to 1680x1050.
[09:33] <siodine> I tried editing it in xorg.conf but that doesn't work either.
[09:33] <tanascar> Can anyone help get me in a new direction on trying to get my net card working???Please...
[09:33] <nofeardjb> siodine what did you change in your xorg.conf?
[09:33] <Chadarius> siodine: what kind of video card do you have?
[09:33] <siodine> I have a 6600GT
[09:33] <siodine> nVidia
[09:33] <Tominator> dyrne: both are installed.... still doesn't work :-/
[09:33] <siodine> and a 20.1" Widescreen
[09:34] <siodine> 16:10 aspect ratio
[09:34] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[09:34] <nofeardjb> i have the same setup
[09:34] <nofeardjb> what did you change in your xorg?
[09:34] <siodine> Modes "1680x1050"
[09:34] <mwe> !nvidia | siodine, did you read this?
[09:34] <siodine> under the default depth
[09:34] <ubotu> siodine, did you read this?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:34] <daedra> linux is sexy!
[09:34] <midgetg0at> after running: sudo make install i get this output: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[09:34] <dyrne> Tominator: im assuming build-essential is installed as well correct?
[09:34] <siodine> Well, the device manger recognizes the 6600GT
[09:34] <daedra> I AM SO VERY DRUNK
[09:34] <midgetg0at> when following these directions: http://www.infinicode.org/cameramonitor/
[09:34] <Erealz> need to know how to mount windows partion ?....help anyone
[09:34] <nofeardjb> you don't need to install the nvidia driver to support that resolution
[09:34] <siodine> Section "Screen"
[09:34] <siodine> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[09:34] <siodine> 	Device		"NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] "
[09:35] <Tominator> dyrne: yes
[09:35] <nofeardjb> show me your modes after :
[09:35] <nofeardjb>         SubSection "Display"
[09:35] <nofeardjb>                 Depth           24
[09:35] <mwe> siodine: read the link ubotu provided. it explains what you need to do ;)
[09:35] <daedra> im alone looking for linux help on valentines day :(
[09:35] <mwe> nofeardjb: don't paste in here
[09:35] <midgetg0at> When trying to start canorma i get an error: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection.
[09:35] <daedra> !drunk
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Chadarius> siodine: Its true you don't need the nvidia driver to get that, but I use binary driver and I don't specify any resolution in xorg.conf and it automatically chooses the right one for me
[09:35] <dyrne> Erealz: sudo mkdir /media/hda1; sudo umount /dev/hda1;sudo mount -o ummask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[09:35] <midgetg0at> does canorama work with USB?
[09:35] <daedra> !love
[09:35] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[09:35] <dyrne> Erealz: will work
[09:35] <Pici> I love that quote
[09:35] <ubuntus> is possibe in future to upgrade the installed 7,40 ubuntu alpha to the realise that is coming...
[09:35] <ubuntus> -)
[09:36] <daedra> :D
[09:36] <siodine> Ok, thanks, I'll try that link.
[09:36] <daedra> ubotu knows about love
[09:36] <daedra> you ol' dog
[09:36] <dyrne> Erealz: basically you want to include the umask option in /etc/fstab file
[09:36] <ubuntus> !ubuntu
[09:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:36] <silox>  Hi, I have a problem with my laptop, a Dell Inspiron 8100. Both internal USB ports are broken so I have to use an external card. This works well but there is one problem, the internal USB ports gives this error "hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 1" and "hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2" over and over again in the terminal. I cant disable USB in BIOS.. Any ideas?
[09:37] <wolferine> can I run a webserver and and FTP server and an SSH server in unbuntu?
[09:37] <ubuntus> is the ubuntu 7.04 apha 3 more stabble then ubuntu 6.10 ?
[09:37] <wolferine> or should I be looking after the .server iso?
[09:37] <shatrat> wolferine, of course
[09:37] <Chadarius> wolferine: Yeah you can run all of those
[09:37] <mwe> ubuntus: no it's not released yet
[09:37] <banditti> nothing alpha is ever more stable than release
[09:38] <wolferine> so the server just has al the packages installed already and is just run from command line?
[09:38] <mwe> ubuntus: it's going to be the next release in april
[09:38] <wolferine> so no desktop?
[09:38] <IdahoEv> first install help:  ubuntu booted off the CD with screen res 640x480.  On the first screen of the installer (select language), I cannot see the "OK" button, it is off the bottom.  I can't resize the window, scroll the window, move the window up far enough to see the button.  Nor can I change my screen resolution via the system control panel.  How do I proceed?
[09:38] <Chadarius> siodine: You can also check out this wiki http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:38] <heygab1> Idaho: Use the alternite install cd.
[09:38] <nofeardjb> what is a good harddrive/partition backup software?
[09:38] <heygab1> Your life will improve greatly.
[09:38] <rojo^> silox: maybe boot using a rescue disk and rm the defective entries from /dev?  I dunno, that might make things worse though.  0_o
[09:38] <LjL> !backup > nofeardjb    (nofeardjb, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:38] <nofeardjb> ty
[09:38] <tanascar> Does ubuntu have a restore process to fix a messed up install?
[09:38] <Erealz> ummm how do i find out my whats my windows partion.
[09:38] <nofeardjb> !backup > nofeardjb
[09:39] <nofeardjb> hmmm
[09:39] <IdahoEv> heygab1:  thanks.   Don't really want to have to download another 600mb cd, but oh well
[09:39] <nofeardjb> oh! there's the message lol
[09:39] <Chadarius> IdahoEv: Have you tried using xrandr in the command line to change your resolution?
[09:39] <LjL> Erealz: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/yourdrive"
[09:39] <heygab1> If you don't want to redownload, you can install the nvidia drivers on your live cd.
[09:39] <LjL> Erealz: that is a lowercase L
[09:39] <IdahoEv> Chadarius:  no, i'll look up how to do that
[09:40] <Chadarius> IdahoEv: You can open up a terminal and just type xrandr
[09:40] <Spec> How does one convert a midi file to a .wav file?
[09:40] <Chadarius> IdahoEv: will give you a list of valid resolutions for your system
[09:40] <LjL> !timidity | Spec, using a software MIDI synth
[09:40] <ubotu> spec, using a software midi synth: timidity: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.2-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[09:40] <IdahoEv> Chadarius: is it interactive, or do I need to know ...  ah thanks
[09:40] <Spec> i can use timidity to convert it?
[09:40] <Erealz> dev/hdc1   *           1       19456   156280288+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:40] <Erealz> now
[09:40] <mareks> when compiling something, how do i set an environment var?
[09:41] <Erealz> how do  i mount that
[09:41] <Chadarius> IdahoEv: Then you can change resolution by typing "xrandr -s #" where the # is the resolution line number in the list it gave you before
[09:41] <dyrne> mareks: export BLAH=blah
[09:41] <LjL> Spec: "convert" is not the right word. MIDI is a format that encodes notes and information about notes -- WAV is just one PCM (digital audio) format. so it's more like rendering a 3D scene into a PNG picture than "converting"
[09:41] <IdahoEv> Chadarius:  xrandr gives 640x480 as my only option.
[09:41] <Spec> LjL: yeap
[09:41] <Coll1er> DCC SEND hjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsv
[09:41] <mareks> dyrne: is that a temporary thing
[09:41] <mareks> dyrne: or does that go on the same line as ./configure ?
[09:41] <LjL> Spec: timidity is quite good, but it's only as good as the patch set (i.e. the instrument samples) that you use
[09:41] <Spec> it is more like rendering
[09:41] <LjL> !midi > spec    (spec, see the private message from Ubotu) | so see this
[09:42] <Chadarius> IdahoEv: Yeah I thought it might... the alternative CD is your best bet. Live CD is having trouble figuring out your video card setup
[09:42] <Spec> i understand how midis work a little
[09:42] <Spec> LjL: the instrument samples are on the soundcard, right?
[09:42] <dyrne> mareks: its a temp thing as long as the shell is open i think
[09:42] <AMD> guys how do i get beryl to use "xserver-xgl" and not AIGLX
[09:42] <LjL> Spec: if you browse the internet, there are probably better patches available than the ones that are in Universe (though surely the best ones will be commercial)
[09:42] <LjL> Spec: no
[09:42] <IdahoEv> Chadarius:  My LCD is connected via a KVM switch, which could be confusing it i suppose.   off to find the alt install disk.   thanks...
[09:42] <LjL> Spec: wait a second, i'll banforward the exploit victims, then i'll go on explaining
[09:43] <kando> DCC SEND hjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsv
[09:43] <Biovore> hmm goober attack eh..
[09:45] <dimeotane> ferret_0567: hey I just read a solution that works... you might like:   sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/truecrypt
[09:45] <oggy_> yeah
[09:45] <oggy_> workiing
[09:45] <oggy_> hm is it possible to use analog audio off my abit bp6 motherboard with freebsd 6.0
[09:45] <Erealz> dev/hdc1   *           1       19456   156280288+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:45] <oggy_> using logitech z5500
[09:45] <Erealz> how do i mount that
[09:45] <dimeotane> you can run it under a user after
[09:45] <mwe> !ntfs | Erealz
[09:45] <ubotu> Erealz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:45] <oggy_> also I have an old ibm steel keyboard that makes alot of noise , will that work also
[09:45] <[GuS] > ?
[09:46] <[GuS] > what happen??
[09:46] <hid3> Evening everyone. Is there any way to send some instant message to system screen/console? (even nobody is logged in there)
[09:46] <Spec> hid3: like...send a message to a tty?
[09:46] <oggy_> obviously im able to do alot more with xfce , than I am with fluxbox
[09:46] <Spec> hid3: or as in send a command to a screen?
[09:46] <dimeotane> hid3: $ send -spam /dev/everyone
[09:46] <Erealz> k
[09:47] <hid3> dimeotane: thanks! :)
[09:47] <dimeotane> kidding:-D
[09:47] <hid3> really?
[09:47] <likwidtek> aside from mounting a SMB share... how do you "map a drive" in ubuntu?  instead of having to type smb://blah blah blah is there a way to alias it?
[09:47] <dimeotane> no
[09:47] <iamtheric> the talk protocol is for tty communications
[09:47] <hid3> fuck.. but I need this in real :-)
[09:47] <mwe> LjL: cleaning the ban list? ;)
[09:47] <iamtheric> likwidtek: just add the share to mount to a folder in fstab
[09:48] <dyrne> hid3: you can write or talk
[09:48] <PriceChild> !ohmy | hid3
[09:48] <ubotu> hid3: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:48] <dimeotane> PriceChild: he's getting into the valentines sprit isn't he?
[09:48] <Erealz> my boy just sent me an link to easy ubuntu
[09:48] <PriceChild> dimeotane, /
[09:48] <PriceChild> ?
[09:48] <Erealz> i dont know but easy ubuntu sucks to me
[09:49] <likwidtek> iamtheric: likwidtek: just add the share to mount to a folder in fstab  |  ok how do I do this?
[09:49] <Potti> easy ubuntu?
[09:49] <likwidtek> he left :(
[09:49] <dimeotane> automatix / easybubuntu... what the dif?
[09:49] <Erealz> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[09:49] <dimeotane> !easyubuntu
[09:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:49] <mwe> !automatix
[09:49] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:49] <dimeotane> !automatix
[09:49] <Erealz> im isnt ubuntu easy enough to install crap  anyways
[09:49] <Erealz> like i cant really see a use for it
[09:49] <Erealz> at all....
[09:49] <mwe> dimeotane: copycat
[09:50] <Akuma_> i just changed windows partitions to use ntfs-3g, and now gparted can't find them - is there a trick or do i have to revert to ntfs?
[09:50] <Potti> my only prob is getting wine installed = (
[09:50] <dimeotane> codec throw people off sometimes... cause it doesn't work out of the box.. so they want easy install scrips
[09:50] <dimeotane> mwe: I owe u a beer
[09:50] <mwe> Akuma_: gparted should see your partitions no matter how you mount them I think
[09:50] <mwe> dimeotane: ;)
[09:50] <phaedra> Potti, What's the prob?
[09:51] <Potti> i install wine  w/ synaptic
[09:51] <Potti> but the install file do not go where they should go or even pop up anywherer
[09:51] <crusoe_> How do I got about installing Azureus on my Ubuntu box using terminal?
[09:51] <mwe> Erealz: installing non free stuff requires a little work but it's quite easy
[09:52] <Akuma_> mwe: it gives me a warning for both hda1 and hda5 (win partitions), saying it cannot find the mount point - could that because of something else?
[09:52] <exwebjunkie> crusoe_: sudo apt-install Azureus
[09:52] <phaedra> Potti, No problem there.  Are you having trouble with configuration?
[09:52] <Potti> i guess that could be it
[09:52] <exwebjunkie> sudo aptitude install azureus even
[09:52] <phaedra> Potti, What do you get if you type wine at a console?
[09:52] <mwe> Akuma_: but it still sees the partitions, right?
[09:53] <Potti> Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]    Run the specified program
[09:53] <Potti>        wine --help                   Display this help and exit
[09:53] <Potti>        wine --version                Output version information and exit
[09:53] <Akuma_> mwe: yes, it does. it doesnt seem to see how much data is on it though
[09:53] <phaedra> Potti, Try this url > http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[09:54] <mwe> Akuma_: I don't think it knows about ntfs-3g. I think you can change the size of the partitions anyway.
[09:54] <brombomb> My network has been acting finicky, Is there anything else I cna use besiades ifconfig, ifdown, ifup?
[09:54] <phaedra> Potti, Wine is installed okay.  Just configure it now.
[09:54] <mwe> I need to ignore foo sets/removes ban on bar
[09:54] <Lynoure> hmm
[09:55] <LjL> Sorry for the inconvenience and the spam.
[09:55] <Akuma_> mwe: thanks. although i think i know the answer: is it safe?
[09:55] <mwe> Akuma_: it *should* be. the rule of thumb is to backup when messing with partitions, though.
[09:56] <AMD> LjL you better be :D
[09:56] <Akuma_>  mwe: yeah i backed up. it would really suck to have to reinstall though. thanks a lot
[09:56] <oggy_> I need macromedia flash for freebsd firefox browser
[09:56] <oggy_> where can I get it
[09:56] <padee_> hi all
[09:57] <Akuma_> oggy_: you might wanna start with #freebsd? =)
[09:57] <mwe> Akuma_: I've done it many times. You could loose everything. it's not likely, though.
[09:57] <oggy_> ah good thing
[09:57] <pbureau> oggy_, set your backports update and apt-get
[09:57] <oggy_> let me check ports
[09:57] <oggy_> update apt get?
[09:57] <oggy_> in freebsd
[09:57] <oggy_> ?
[09:58] <YoshiG3> How do I find my default gateway?
[09:58] <pbureau> well your in ubuntu... debian speaking here.... find #bsd channel I guess
[09:58] <YoshiG3> I can't access my router, and it's REALLY pissing me off
[09:58] <mwe> oggy_: try freebsd support instead of ubuntu
[09:58] <oggy_> sure thing mwe
[09:58] <oggy_> =)
[09:58] <mwe> YoshiG3: route -n
[09:59] <TheAsp> Anything break in the last couple weeks that would cause a box to hang during boot just after mounting disks?
[09:59] <padee_> anyone experience with connecting ubuntu with a wireless router belkin 2.4ghz 802.11???
[09:59] <YoshiG3> well, is there any reason why I couldn't access my linksys router? It's showing "Page not found" on 192.168.1.1
[09:59] <YoshiG3> I'm guessing that my comp has 192.168.1.1, but everywhere I've looked, it's 127.0.0.1
[09:59] <YoshiG3> I'm the only comp on this router
[09:59] <mwe> oggy_: Is there even a flash player for freebsd?
[10:00] <pbureau> well your in ubuntu... debian speaking here.... find #bsd channel I guess
[10:00] <mwe> YoshiG3: 127.0.0.1 is the loopback device
[10:00] <tanascar> Anyone know how I can restore my ubuntu install to a functioning install after a partial HD crash?
[10:00] <tanascar> Other than reinstalling from scratch
[10:00] <hume> #kubuntu
[10:00] <sable> When I open the update manager, it just closes itself, how do I find out why?
[10:01] <mwe> tanascar: is the data still there?
[10:01] <tanascar> yes
[10:01] <pbureau> sable,  cat /etc/messages
[10:01] <mwe> tanascar: so how did the disk 'crash' ?
[10:01] <tanascar> but ubuntu only boots up to a command, no xserver
[10:01] <tanascar> lots of corruption
[10:01] <mwe> tanascar: sounds bad
[10:01] <tanascar> ran through fsck and back to running now
[10:01] <oggy_> Macromedia? Flash? plugin is not available for FreeBSD. However, a software layer (wrapper) for running the Linux version of the plugin exists. This wrapper also supports Adobe? Acrobat? plugin, RealPlayer plugin and more.
[10:01] <tanascar> yea
[10:01] <oggy_> i need the linux version
[10:01] <tanascar> just need to get the system reinstalled
[10:02] <oggy_> so Im asking in linux ubuntu
[10:02] <sable> pbureau: I don't have messages
[10:02] <tekrei> maybe correcting xserver configuration solves your problem tanascar?
[10:02] <mwe> !flash | tanascar
[10:02] <ubotu> tanascar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:02] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:02] <pbureau> sable locate messages
[10:02] <nofeardjb> did you mean "cat /var/log/messages" ?
[10:02] <dyrne> oggy_: you can just install the linux-firefox or whatever and grab the linux driver from macromedia and put in /usr/lib/firefox/plugin/ or wherever
[10:02] <tanascar> If I could get the net card working, I may be able to do apt-get and get the packages refreshed..
[10:03] <pbureau> tanascar, lspci what card is it ?
[10:03] <tanascar> it shows the card
[10:03] <tanascar> lsmod doesn't show it though
[10:03] <padee_> wireless? ubuntu? any ideas? is there a better interface than the one from sun?
[10:03] <tanascar> (assuming it suppose to)
[10:03] <marious> hello all, noob question how do I see my drives? I know there there cause I partinioned it and added /usr and /home
[10:03] <pbureau> tanascar, do lshw -class network is it DISABLED ?
[10:03] <mwe> oggy_: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[10:04] <sable> pbureau: It's located in var/log, and when I read through them, the last entry was yesterday
[10:04] <tanascar> pbureau: one sec.. lemee check
[10:04] <Chadarius> padee_: wireless interface from sun?
[10:04] <bernie_> when i make a launcher how do i set the working directory?
[10:04] <Chadarius> padee_: I use knetworkmanager in kunbuntu... I hear there is a new improved Gnome wireless manager as well
[10:04] <kane77> hi
[10:05] <kane77> how do I execute php scripts in cli?
[10:05] <drx> can someone help me fix a post-upgrade dual boot problem?
[10:05] <tekrei> i am using wifi-radar.
[10:05] <mwe> kane77: well you need to install the CLI version
[10:06] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[10:06] <kane77> kane77, cli version of php?
[10:06] <tanascar> pbureau: shows that the card is Unclaimed
[10:06] <kane77> mwe, cli version of php?
[10:06] <mwe> kane77: yeah, php5-cli or php4-cli
[10:06] <Chadarius> I like knetworkmanager because it saves all my network keys security in kwalletmanager
[10:06] <Chadarius> drx: what kind of boot problem?
[10:07] <sable> what is the easiest way to back up your computer? I really hate having to spend an hour reinstalling ubuntu every couple horus
[10:07] <sable> hours*
[10:07] <bard> heygab1, where can i get the lastest bcm4312 wifi card firmware?
[10:07] <bruenig> sable, backup personal files or what?
[10:07] <nofeardjb> i'm using partimage right now
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> good night to all
[10:07] <nofeardjb> to back up my partition
[10:07] <mwe> sable: you're reinstalling every couple of hours? ;)
[10:07] <tekrei> partition imaging is the easiest way as far as i know
[10:07] <sable> bruenig: everything, so that I don't have to go through the ubuntu install
[10:07] <sable> mwe: yes
[10:07] <bruenig> !backup | sable
[10:07] <ubotu> sable: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:07] <sable> mwe: things fuck up, adn the easiest way to fix it is to reinstall
[10:07] <mwe> !backup sable
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backup sable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <nofeardjb> sable:http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[10:08] <bruenig> dd is fun also
[10:08] <LjL> !language | sable
[10:08] <ubotu> sable: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:08] <ooglaboogla> can someone help me out with settup up putty to connect to my ubuntu system using a ssh key, i've executed ssh-keygen -t rsa, copied the contents of the .pub file to ./ssh/authorized_keys, but what do i do from here ?
[10:08] <mwe> sable: I see. I guess I never noticed that
[10:08] <Crescendo_> I'm booting from the install CD, and I'm getting a bunch of buffer I/O errors - brand new HDD - what's up?
[10:08] <mwe> !backup | sable
[10:08] <ubotu> sable: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:08] <bard> Crescendo, get a proper cd/cd-rom :)
[10:09] <|Z_E_R_O|> bonsoir
[10:09] <Crescendo_> bard, it's on device: hdc
[10:09] <Chadarius> sable: I use partimage to do what you want and it works great on restores to similar/same hardware
[10:09] <mwe> !fr | |Z_E_R_O|
[10:09] <ubotu> |Z_E_R_O|: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:09] <drx> Chadarius, I originally installed Vista Beta 2 on SATA drive 2 and Ubuntu on SATA drive 1, I just upgraded from Beta 2 to full Vista (reinstall) and now it just boots to Vista without the Grub Loader boot menu
[10:09] <kane77> mwe, I have installed the php5-cli so now do I run it like that "php script.php"?
[10:09] <|Z_E_R_O|> i'm italian
[10:09] <sable> pbureau: It's located in var/log, and when I read through them, the last entry was yesterday
[10:09] <Crescendo_> !it
[10:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:10] <bard> Crescendo, i had the same problem with a half broken cd-rom
[10:10] <bard> drive
[10:10] <tanascar> pbureau: did you see my last response? The card shows as unclaimed.
[10:10] <|Z_E_R_O|> if i try #ubuntu-it , You need to be identified to join that channel
[10:10] <mwe> kane77: I'm not sure. I haven't used it myself. I just knew you had to use the CLI version. But I'd guess so.
[10:10] <|Z_E_R_O|> -
[10:10] <Chadarius> drx: sounds like you need to reinstall grub to that drive to take over as the bootmanager again
[10:10] <mwe> !register | |Z_E_R_O|
[10:10] <ubotu> |Z_E_R_O|: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:11] <Chadarius> drx: You can probably do it with a few simple grub commands
[10:11] <drx> Chadarius, I tried that but it didn't seem to work:  Live CD - find /boot/grub/stage1 and it came back with (hd0,0) - root (hd0) quit
[10:12] <Chadarius> drx: hmmm let me check something... I think I have how I did this in a file somewhere
[10:12] <tanascar> Can anyone tell me why my network card would show as Unclaimed in lshw
[10:12] <drx> Chadarius, I have another issue complicating things -- my bios offers several SATA modes (compatibility, enhanced, SATA only PATA only SATa+PATA, and I can't boot from the Live CD in certain modes
[10:13] <Flamekebab> Another quick question - if I want to write a tiny bashscript to convert MP3 files to Ogg with a hardcoded quality, shouldn't it require but a single line of code?
[10:13] <Chadarius> interesting
[10:13] <Flamekebab> something like mp32ogg --quality=5 *files*
[10:13] <drx> (it says cdrom_pc_instr: The drive appears confused (ireason=0x01) and the bios changes the name of my DVD drives to some generic ATAPI CD
[10:13] <Chadarius> drx: as long as the drive can be seen with the install CD you should still be able to do it
[10:14] <sh4rm4> Flamekebab, use perl
[10:14] <Flamekebab> sh4rm4, I don't speak perl though..
[10:14] <drx> Chadarius, I seem to be able to see ONE drive with the LiveCD booted, but both are a problem.  I can switch the hdd boot order.
[10:14] <Chadarius> drx: does the drive still remain as hd0,0 when you boot from CD?
[10:14] <bruenig> Flamekebab, that will work
[10:15] <bruenig> Flamekebab, you could just alias that though
[10:15] <Flamekebab> bruenig, I'm just not sure how to get my nautilus script to accept it
[10:15] <khronus> lo all
[10:15] <Chadarius> drx: ah yeah... so this might not all be a grub issue
[10:15] <bruenig> Flamekebab, oh for nautilus, not sure on nautilus scripts
[10:15] <s|g> re
[10:16] <khronus> just installing for first time and am selecting mount points, my system is split with a root partition, a swap partition and 'the rest' what mount point do i give 'the rest'
[10:16] <khronus> ?
[10:16] <s|g> someone know a ubuntu drupal theme download url ?
[10:16] <kane77> some disk usage statistics? (i'm on dapper and I have seen something in edgy, I'm not sure what it was...)
[10:16] <Flamekebab> bruenig, as far as I'm aware nautilus scripts work basically like bash scripts
[10:16] <drx> Chadarius, I'm not sure.  The thing is, that in Enhanced mode the bios shows all 4 drives (2 SATA HDD and 2 DVDRW PATA) but Live CD won't boot
[10:16] <Anders> Hi Experts. Can anyone help me - how do I log on to Ubunt as a root user? I need to add some commands to a script in order for my wireless card to work with kernel 2.6.17-11
[10:16] <bruenig> I use xfce therefore thunar, so I don't know
[10:16] <dacks> Anders, type 'sudo su' in a console
[10:16] <kane77> Anders, you either use sudo in front of the command
[10:16] <drx> Chadarius, if I switch into compatibility mode (which is what I recall doing to install Linux & Vista) I seem to lose the ability to boot from the Live CD
[10:17] <bruenig> !sudo | Anders
[10:17] <ubotu> Anders: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:17] <Flamekebab> bruenig, fair enough, thanks anyway
[10:17] <kane77> or you use sudo passwd to set password...
[10:17] <dyrne> Anders: sudo command  or sudo -i   or sudo -s
[10:17] <khronus> just installing for first time and am selecting mount points, my system is split with a root partition, a swap partition and 'the rest' what mount point do i give 'the rest'?
[10:17] <Flamekebab> I've managed to get hold of an audio converter script, it's just that it's needlessly complex
[10:17] <Chadarius> drx: hmmm interesting
[10:17] <bruenig> khronus, something like /media/whatever
[10:17] <Flamekebab> I don't need to convert to any format under the sun
[10:17] <Anders> Ok, so I can not use the text editor in Ubunt to add the lines?
[10:17] <bruenig> khronus, or any place really, it doesn't matter
[10:17] <khronus> oh right, it gives mne a few options bruenig,
[10:17] <Flamekebab> I just want to be able to right-click on a load of MP3s and have them converted to Q5 Oggs
[10:18] <khronus> such as /var /tmp /boot
[10:18] <khronus> but this is the whoile of the system seems weird calling it that
[10:18] <dyrne> Anders: sudo nano /etc/file.txt
[10:18] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[10:18] <bruenig> khronus, this rest of stuff is for personal files right?
[10:18] <phaedra> khronus, What type of filesystem is 'the rest'?
[10:19] <Anders> Great - thanks. How to I get Ubuntu to load a script during boot?
[10:19] <phaedra> khronus, /home might be good...
[10:19] <drx> my recollection is that I needed compatbility mode with SATA+PATA in order to operate, so I've put that back.  I can see the GRUB menu if I choose boot from 1st HDD from the Live CD menu, but choosing either Linux or Windows results in "Error 21:  Selected disk does not exist"
[10:19] <greywolf777> i ocasionaly get a APIC err when booting but not all the time i was wodering why
[10:19] <khronus> i select ext, noi not just personal stuff erm my partitions so far are root (3gb) swap (1gb) and then all of the rest of the filesystem (34gb )
[10:19] <kleinweby> hello, i have a littel problem with lilo. i wan't do added the vga boot parameter, if I added vga=0x035c to append lilo says thats don't allowed. if I add vga=0x035c as an normal option lilo says at the boot: unkown vga mode or so. can any body help me?
[10:19] <khronus> ext3 soz
[10:19] <drx> and Error 13:  Inavlid or unsupported executable format in the case of Vista
[10:20] <|Z_E_R_O|> nobody help me in ubuntu-it, i'm trying to install ubuntu from cd but I got I/O erorr, I have e I/O card with 2 hdd attached. what can i do?
[10:20] <bruenig> khronus, root has everything, are you just using this partition for storage of stuff or do you want it to have system files on it
[10:20] <Chadarius> drx: It sounds like its a bios issue and not a grub one, although once we fix your bios issue we might have to change some grub entries
[10:20] <fbarc> how do I run a chkdsk on an fat32 drive???
[10:20] <drx> that's cool with me, we can even hose Vista (it's a fresh install) if we need to
[10:20] <khronus> bruenig no idea, its for a friend who is non tech savvy at all so it just needs to be nice and basic
[10:20] <grimboy> What's that program that shows information about hardware?
[10:20] <drx> I just can't afford to lose Linux
[10:20] <Chadarius> drx: what bios do you have? Perhaps there is already a wiki or forum post on this that we can find together
[10:20] <bruenig> khronus, having it mount at /home would be good then
[10:21] <khronus> ok ty !
[10:21] <khronus> :)
[10:21] <kane77> grimboy, lshw
[10:21] <hdx> hello, maybe someone know any progam, to remove some stuff from boot
[10:21] <grimboy> kane77, Ah yes, thanks.
[10:22] <drx> I think I'm past the BIOS problem, I reset everything back the way I remembered it and it looks like the Live CD is booting now (it didn't on 3 prior attempts but I *may* have changed a setting
[10:22] <kane77> grimboy, I believe in kde there's some graphic frontend to it...
[10:22] <|Z_E_R_O|> nobody can help me?
[10:22] <Chadarius> drx: Awesome! So now we just need to figure out what the right drive pointers should be in Grub
[10:22] <grimboy> Them and their fancy-pants kde.
[10:23] <kane77> yeah
[10:23] <fbarc> Can someone tell me how to chkdsk a fat32 partition from ubuntu?
[10:23] <Anders> Thanks for your help - take care
[10:23] <pbureau> grimboy, look under system - admin you will find hardware soemthing (dont ask I use gnome easier :))
[10:23] <finn> !media
[10:23] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:23] <drx> Ok, the only thing now is that I can't see Drive 2 (Vista) inside GPARTED.
[10:24] <grimboy> pbureau, Uh, I use gnome.
[10:24] <finn> is there some place where I can read about how the folder /media works with the mounts etc. ?
[10:24] <Chadarius> drx: hrm weird
[10:24] <juan2> hello
[10:24] <drx> it could be that drive 2 isn't in the bios now, let me check...
[10:24] <pbureau> grimboy, then system - admin - device manager
[10:25] <grimboy> Oh, duh
[10:25] <grimboy> I mean thanks.
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[10:25] <LjL> fbarc: fsck /dev/partition
[10:25] <Chadarius> drx: When you boot into the bios does it show the drive?
[10:25] <LjL> fbarc: while it's NOT mounted
[10:25] <joan> hola
[10:25] <Frost^-> Hello.
[10:25] <joan> algun espaol?
[10:25] <LjL> !es | joan
[10:25] <ubotu> joan: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:25] <Tuana^^> fuck! you!
[10:25] <Tuana^^> fuck! you!
[10:25] <Tuana^^> fuck! you!
[10:25] <Tuana^^> fuck! you!
[10:25] <Tuana^^> fuck! you!
[10:25] <fbarc> LjL: thanks!!!
[10:25] <Frost^-> Can anyone tell me where can I find ubuntu packages' control files?
[10:26] <dyrne> finn: sudo gedit /etc/fstab  or google for udev tutorial
[10:26] <drx> nope, only drive 1, not drive 2 and if I switch from compatible mode to enhanced mode, I can't boot the Live CD
[10:26] <Potti> need help "Could not open the file /home/pottie/Desktop/cedega_timedemo_installer using the Western (ISO-8859-1) character coding."
[10:26] <finn> thanks dyrne
[10:26] <kane77> Frost^-, what control files?
[10:26] <LjL> Frost^-: after they've been installed, or in the .deb itself?
[10:26] <Frost^-> I want to rebuild a certain package.
[10:26] <drx> I'm trying compatible mode + PATA only
[10:26] <flog22> bonsoir
[10:27] <Chadarius> drx: man there is something whacky happening there. OK
[10:27] <drx> nope, that kills my SATA drives
[10:27] <Frost^-> Essentially, upgrade it to a newer version.
[10:27] <LjL> Frost^-, the hacky way is "ar x package.deb", then "tar xf control.tar.gz"
[10:27] <drx> trying compatible + SATA only
[10:27] <|Z_E_R_O|> What can i do if installing ubuntu i receive I/O error?
[10:27] <LjL> |Z_E_R_O|: try booting with noapic or acpi=off
[10:27] <drx> that kills my DVD drives
[10:28] <Frost^-> LjL, I see.
[10:28] <LjL> |Z_E_R_O|: also, check that the CD is ok
[10:28] <|Z_E_R_O|> cd is ok
[10:28] <LjL> !verify > |Z_E_R_O|    (|Z_E_R_O|, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:28] <Potti> Hello
[10:28] <|Z_E_R_O|> the problem is the i/o card
[10:28] <Potti> i need some help
[10:28] <dyrne> |Z_E_R_O|: rule of thumb when burning iso is to use slowest speed you can and verifiy md5sum
[10:28] <drx> What now
[10:28] <Potti> "Could not open the file /home/pottie/Desktop/cedega_timedemo_installer using the Western (ISO-8859-1) character coding." what do i have to do?
[10:28] <Chadarius> drx: There is either a BIOS setting or perhaps the way your drives are wired that is causing this
[10:29] <|Z_E_R_O|> to the i/o card are connected 2 hdd
[10:29] <kleinweby> or if i will use grub on my macbook i get The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. :(
[10:29] <LjL> |Z_E_R_O|, i'd still try the noapic and noacpi
[10:30] <|Z_E_R_O|> ok i'm going to try thanks
[10:30] <drx> trying Enhanced mode SATA+PATA
[10:30] <LjL> !pm | hdx
[10:30] <ubotu> hdx: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[10:31] <LjL> hdx, there is not very much that you can turn off during boot, which will give an appreciable speed increase, short of removing X
[10:31] <flocks> please can you telle me where can I find a list of all PCMCIA card which are supported by linux kernel ?
[10:31] <LjL> hdx: what i suggest (if you're on Edgy) is that you boot with the "profile" kernel option *once* (and only once)
[10:31] <hdx> tnx
[10:32] <darkbaneaway> Does anyone know of a text-editor which supports multi-gig text files that works well with ubuntu?
[10:32] <drx> so here's the thing, when I use this mode, I can see all the drives but the Live CD freezes at "Mounting root file system" -- can we fix this without Live CD?
[10:32] <faLUCE>  Hi. i have compiled a  simple kernel module and generated the .o file. now, how can I insert it? kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:32] <AlexC_> darkbaneaway: multi-gig? as in 5gb file size? :S
[10:32] <Potti> im guessing there is no help for me
[10:32] <Potti> = /
[10:33] <Chadarius> drx: Yes and No... if you can figure out the order of the ive CD
[10:33] <AlexC_> Potti: you've waited 4 mins. You can not say "There is no hope" after 4 mins!
[10:33] <drx> Chadarius, the order?
[10:33] <darkbane> AlexC_ 2 gigs right now, but i could have to deal with larger ones eventually
[10:33] <Potti> i had no idea was being timed
[10:33] <drx> Chadarius, I printed out the gparted screens before upgrading Vista
[10:33] <Chadarius> drx: then we can go in and use the Live CD to fix grub and boot with grub in that mode
[10:34] <AlexC_> Potti: you're not. I simply have timestamps enabled in my IRC client - I saw the time from when you asked for help, then when you started moaning - and worked it out as 4 mins =)
[10:34] <drx> Chadarius, I can't boot from the Live CD
[10:34] <padziak> elo
[10:34] <AlexC_> darkbane: I'm not sure really, never had to open a text-file that big before!
[10:34] <drx> Chadarius, unless I select a BIOS mode that disables drive 2
[10:34] <AlexC_> darkbane: what does open-office or gedit do when you open it?
[10:34] <Chadarius> drx: OK cool... you can make it so you can boot to the CD and edit your menu.lst file though right?
[10:34] <Potti> if your not gonna be any help. id suggest you keep to your self k thnx bye
[10:35] <BigMac> can someone give me a link to a guide with visuals on setting up evolution for gmail? I had one before but lost the link and can't find it on google anymore. or any guide that would tell me who to set up evolution specific for gmail would be great
[10:35] <drx> Chadarius, probably, Oh and I also have a Win32X flash drive that boots Linux if that helps, but it's not ubuntu and theres no GUI
[10:35] <Chadarius> drx: well we don't really need a gui either so however you want to boot so we can edit the menu.lst file is cool with me
[10:36] <darkbane> AlexC_ gedit said "this file is too large" and openoffice just sits there trying to open it
[10:36] <wheels3572> how do I do a search in the repos with a partial spelling of a package?
[10:36] <rmd_> i really wish i could make epic stop showing join/part/signoff messages...
[10:36] <LjL> !packages > wheels3572    (wheels3572, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:36] <LjL> wheels3572: apt-cache search keywo
[10:36] <kane77> I need a tool that would show the formating of a file (e.g. tabs or spaces used) I need to know because I want to parse it... you know of anything?
[10:36] <soundman89> can anybody help with resetting a lost root password?
[10:36] <AlexC_> !anyone | soundman89
[10:36] <ubotu> soundman89: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:36] <Chadarius> drx: We just need to know the drive and partition for Linux and the drive and partion for Vista and the rest should be easy
[10:37] <drx> Chadarius, can you boot from flash drive?
[10:37] <soundman89> how so i go about resetting the root password
[10:37] <AlexC_> darkbane: well a 2GB file _will_ take a long time to open, if you leave open-office does it load it?
[10:37] <Chadarius> drx: yes I have in the past
[10:37] <AlexC_> darkbane: 2gb.... that's mad, can you not split it up at all? =D
[10:37] <eetfunk> how do i specify the default group with adduser under Ubuntu?  the -g switch doesnt work... it works with other distros.
[10:37] <drx> Chadarius, bios setting?
[10:37] <gu014> how can i check to see if my sound card is muted from the command line?
[10:38] <ice63> vista RIGHT!
[10:38] <darkbane> AlexC_ nope ^_^ it's an inbox file from a mail server that's corrupted
[10:38] <Chadarius> drx: yeesh depends on your bios. On My Dell laptop I have a boot up menu I can use to choose on the fly
[10:38] <pbureau> soundman89, use gnome ?
[10:38] <soundman89> yes
[10:38] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me how to get automatix2?
[10:38] <pbureau> system - admin - user account - root - change password
[10:39] <AlexC_> !automatrix | wheels3572
[10:39] <ubotu> wheels3572: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:39] <david_> I'm runnig black box but i don't see the styles option on the right click nenu
[10:39] <david_> menu
[10:39] <Chadarius> amen ubotu!
[10:39] <guerrillawon> Does anyone want to help me try to restore my flash sound by any chance? firefox32 on a 64 bit system flash 9
[10:39] <guerrillawon> Please?
[10:39] <AlexC_> !anyone | guerrillawon
[10:39] <ubotu> guerrillawon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:39] <guerrillawon> I've tried like everything on the forums.
[10:39] <drx> Chadarius, does it matter whether or not gparted can see drive 2 (Vista)?
[10:39] <dyrne> !easybuntu | wheels3572
[10:39] <AlexC_> guerrillawon: how can we possibly help if you ask no question?
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easybuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[10:40] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:40] <guerrillawon> I asked it?
[10:40] <Chadarius> drx: not for what we are doing... Vista is on drive 2 partition 1?
[10:40] <ice63> david_: your running blackbox?
[10:40] <guerrillawon> Does anyone want to help me try to restore my flash sound by any chance? firefox32 on a 64 bit system flash 9
[10:40] <david_> yes
[10:40] <guerrillawon> My audio stopped working I think maybe a program conflict all signs leading to gstreamer.
[10:41] <ice63> david_: do you have bbconf installed ?
[10:41] <soundman89> pbureau> the terminal does not like the command
[10:41] <Shaffox> Does anyone know some good blogsite where you can have your own blog ?
[10:41] <david_> don't know let me check
[10:42] <AlexC_> Shaffox: how is that Ubuntu related?
[10:42] <wheels3572> Is there a different version of X-Chat other then Gnome X-chat cuz the one I had before was a bit more colorful and not so black and white
[10:42] <bard> i have installed broadcom-wl-4.80.53.0 firmware but still do i get [  299.468000]  bcm43xx: YOUR FIRMWARE IS TOO OLD. Firmware from binary drivers older than version 4.x is unsupported. You must upgrade your firmware files.
[10:42] <Bassetts> hey, i have an ati card and I am so fed up with it, so what is a devent nvidia card that is well support in ubuntu?
[10:42] <gdb> wheels3572: there is xchat and xchat-gnome, you want xchat
[10:42] <AlexC_> Shaffox: this is _not_ a drop-in-and-chat channel to ask random questions. For offtopic disccusion go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:42] <darkbane> AlexC_ any ideas?
[10:42] <guerrillawon> I run firefox 32 on my 64 bit architecture. I had flash working fine until my sound went out one day, and I can't get it back. I've tried everything on the forums, and I believe gstreamer may be the reason.
[10:42] <Shaffox> AlexC_: wrong tab, sorry, don't kill me
[10:42] <bard> what do i need to do to get bcm43xx to see that its not older then 4.x
[10:42] <AlexC_> Shaffox: I'll try not to :P
[10:43] <darkbane> AlexC_ open office has been opening the file for 10 minutes or so, and still nothing.
[10:43] <AlexC_> darkbane: it is a 2gb file :P
[10:43] <wheels3572> gdb: Yes i want xchat itself but it installed xchat-gnome on me grrrrrrrr
[10:43] <Chadarius> Bassetts: I have a 6100 a 7800 and a 5700 nvidia all running in Ubuntu. Its all using the same drive. I haven't had any issues with any of them
[10:43] <david_> it says not found
[10:43] <AlexC_> darkbane: how about opening it with nano ?
[10:43] <drx> Chadarius, my printout indicates that Linux is /dev/sdb
[10:43] <AlexC_> darkbane: nano /path/to/stupidly/large/file/
[10:43] <Bassetts> thanks Chadarius
[10:43] <gdb> wheels3572: Yes, you can apt-get install xchat to get the "original" -- personally, I much prefer xchat-gnome.
[10:43] <ice63> hmm
[10:43] <darkbane> AlexC_ hahahaha
[10:44] <drx> Chadarius, and that WIndows is /dev/sda1
[10:44] <drx> Chadarius, so Windows may have been on drive 1 and Linux on drive 2, I'm not really sure
[10:44] <wheels3572> gdb: Im not sure I have all the Repos open that should be lol cuz when i do an apt-get cache xchat it comes up only xchat-gnome
[10:44] <hdx> does anyone have tutorial for beryl for ati radeon 9200
[10:44] <darkbane> AlexC_ would I have to do sudo nano /path/to/monsterous/inbox?
[10:45] <drx> Chadarius, also, the bios lets you swap these drives and I was certainly doing that
[10:45] <ice63> david_: are you running ubuntu or deb?
[10:45] <Chadarius> drx: Ok that makes sense I guess. What partition on /dev/sdb?
[10:45] <Chadarius> drx: Yeah that will kill grub everytime
[10:45] <wheels3572> !repositories > wheels3572
[10:45] <AlexC_> darkbane: only if the user you're logged in as don't have access to the amazingly large file
[10:45] <david_> ubuntu 6.10
[10:45] <drx> Chadarius, remember that my printout is pre-bios changes, pre-Vista reinstall
[10:45] <AlexC_> hdx: there is a great guide on the Beryl wiki
[10:46] <Chadarius> drx: OK so have you edited your grub menu before?
[10:46] <ice63> david_: ok that's why
[10:46] <drx> Chadarius, OK, so now my Linux drive is /dev/sda
[10:46] <AlexC_> hdx: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_XGL
[10:46] <david_> ?
[10:46] <drx> Chadarius, a long time ago
[10:46] <hdx> tnx
[10:46] <drx> Chadarius, and there is no /dev/sdb in this mode
[10:46] <Chadarius> drx: Its easy and full proof... we'll back it up first
[10:46] <soundman89> help needed resetting lost root password... ICQ #-407926184
[10:46] <drx> Chad, OK, let's see...
[10:47] <AlexC_> soundman89: ask your question in here - we wont contact you on ICQ just to help you!
[10:47] <LjL> !root > soundman89    (soundman89, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:47] <drx> Chadarius, terminal?
[10:47] <Chadarius> drx: we need to open a terminal yeah
[10:47] <LjL> soundman89: boot with "init=/bin/sh" as a kernel parameter, and follow those instructions for resetting the password
[10:47] <roxlu> hi all
[10:47] <drx> Chadarius, OK
[10:47] <darkbane> AlexC_ how much longer should I wait for openoffice to try to open this? it's been a while.
[10:47] <soundman89> LjL: thanks, ill try it
[10:47] <LjL> !bootoptions > soundman89    (soundman89, see the private message from Ubotu) | this is how you add kernel parameters at boot (look at the section that talks about hitting "e" and "b")
[10:47] <CheshireViking> has anybody installed beryl when the nvidia graphics is restricted to the nvidia 7184 driver and were there any difficulties?
[10:47] <AlexC_> darkbane: I say cancel it and try nano
[10:47] <david_> can i get bbconf or am i out of luck
[10:47] <dyrne> soundman89: in grub menu highlight the os to boot and hit e  then edit the kernel line adding init=/bin/sh  hit enter then b to boot.  once at a # prompt type mount -o remount,rw /    then change the password to whatever
[10:47] <roxlu> how can I format a partition of my external HD to exts3 ?
[10:48] <Chadarius> drx: Then we need to get to your linux drive... it is probably mounted under /media already right?
[10:48] <darkbane> AlexC_ ok, i'll try that
[10:48] <wheels3572> gdb: can someone give me a standard repo what should be commented in and or commented out?
[10:48] <AlexC_> !anyone | CheshireViking
[10:48] <ubotu> CheshireViking: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:48] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[10:49] <yopad_> hi guys...how do i get my mouse to work...i have extra buttons...is there a program for this?
[10:49] <drx> Chadarius, let me jettison the USB drive (it's mounted but it wouldn't boot)
[10:49] <yopad_> i want to be able to use my back/forward buttons like in windows xp
[10:49] <Chadarius> drx: OK... you are booting from the Live CD again then?
[10:49] <CheshireViking> AlexC_, that was my real question, it just happens to have the word anyone in it
[10:49] <Chadarius> drx: Let me know when you have your terminal open and we'll go from there
[10:49] <drx> Chadarius, Yes now
[10:49] <dyrne> yopad_: you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. you can do this like sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf or sudo sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  if you edit the file just google for the right mouse settings
[10:50] <guerrillawon> Does anyone have a flash version recommendation for Ubuntu 64?
[10:50] <yopad_> sweet thanks dyrne
[10:50] <drx> Chadarius, should I swap the drives in BIOS so they are as they were in the old configuration or leave them alone?
[10:50] <dyrne> yopad_: choose vesa driver if you do dpkg so you dont mess up your gui
[10:50] <Chadarius> drx: you have leave them
[10:50] <Slart> guerrillawon: nope.. install 32-bit firefox.. or run the 32-bit flash player
[10:50] <darkbane> AlexC_ err.. I can't stop openoffice now
[10:50] <AlexC_> darkbane: alt+f2 and type "killall open-office"
[10:51] <Slart> guerrillawon: or.. wait.. that was a recommendation.. I guess yes then =)
[10:51] <Chadarius> drx: we just need to know how they will look when you boot normally and be able to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file from your Linux partition
[10:51] <AlexC_> I think it's open-office anyway, ... try openoffice if that doesn't work
[10:51] <guerrillawon> Slart :P I have the 32 bit one installed with the latest flash. I was just hoping there was a maybe more stable version.
[10:51] <Slart> guerrillawon: not that I know of.. let me know if you find one
[10:52] <darkbane> AlexC_ neither worked
[10:52] <AlexC_> darkbane: killall soffice
[10:52] <david_> ill see if i can find bbconf and install it thanks for the help have good day all
[10:52] <marmer> how can I upgrade gnomebaker 0.6.0 to 0.6.1 by shell please?
[10:52] <bigcx2> hey all
[10:52] <darkbane> AlexC_ that worked
[10:52] <AlexC_> darkbane: why it's soffice ... I've no idea :P
[10:52] <bigcx2> does anyone know what ubuntu's support policy is going to be for feisty
[10:52] <guerrillawon> Slart: Will do.
[10:52] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[10:52] <AlexC_> bigcx2: #ubuntu+1
[10:53] <bigcx2> like: XX years on the desktop, and XX years for servers
[10:53] <shatrat> BiGcaT, same as edgy, it wont be long term support.
[10:53] <Slart> bigcx2: nothing on their site?
[10:53] <guerrillawon> gstreamer-properties
[10:53] <bigcx2> Slart: not for feisty
[10:53] <guerrillawon> Ahh sorry, wrong window.
[10:54] <bigcx2> so what is it for edgy then?
[10:55] <zax1> does any one of a free software that can read DBX(outlook express)file and convert them to csv ?
[10:55] <AlexC_> bigcx2: IIRC; 2 years desktop, 3 years server? not sure, just guesing
[10:55] <lightseed> hi how do i make the dns servers not obtained automaticalled?
[10:55] <bigcx2> yea that's kinda what i thought
[10:56] <darkbane> AlexC_ aaaaaagh nano isn't working either
[10:56] <AlexC_> lightseed: System->admin->networking
[10:56] <bigcx2> and then dapper was longer than that
[10:56] <AlexC_> bigcx2: Dapper is the LTS release, Long Term Support.
[10:56] <mindstate> what are the optimal settings for qemu running winxp?
[10:56] <signature16> How can  I change the default player for AVI files to be VLC media player?
[10:56] <drx> Chad, Drive 1 isnt' mounted
[10:56] <bigcx2> AlexC_: thanks
[10:56] <drx> Chadarius, drive 1 is not mounted
[10:57] <AlexC_> bigcx2: it's supported for 3 years desktop, and 5 years
[10:57] <AlexC_> bigcx2: and 5 yeras server
[10:57] <mindstate> signature16: right click the avi file
[10:57] <bigcx2> edgy?
[10:57] <Chadarius> drx: That's what has Linux on it right?
[10:57] <mindstate> open with vlc
[10:57] <bigcx2> or feisty?
[10:57] <AlexC_> bigcx2: no, Dapper.
[10:57] <bigcx2> oh
[10:57] <AlexC_> bigcx2: Dapper is LTS Release, Supported for 3 years desktop and 5 years Server.
[10:58] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[10:58] <bigcx2> AlexC_: gotcha, thank you
[10:58] <drx> Chadarius, no, it was on drive 2 but when I change the bios so the DVD will boot i think it becomes drive 1 but maybe not
[10:58] <lightseed> AlexC_: i set those but they disappear probably when i reboot
[10:58] <AlexC_> lightseed: "probably" ... why not try it and find it?
[10:58] <drx> Chadarius, the two hard drives are identical so I can't tell which one is actually up
[10:58] <Hopposai> zax http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_Utilities
[10:58] <AlexC_> Crescendo_: please wait more than 5 mins before repeating question
[10:59] <darkbane> AlexC_ nano is frozen now
[10:59] <AlexC_> darkbane: how'd you mean?
[10:59] <drx> Chadarius, but when I run Gparted, it shows the Linux partitions as sda now
[10:59] <Chadarius> drx: you should be able to look at the file system from the Live CD and that will tell you whether its the Linux or Vista one
[10:59] <darkbane> AlexC_ it appears that the process is just looping
[10:59] <Crescendo_> AlexC_, I'm using the Freenode standard of wait till it scrolls past the window. :/
[10:59] <drx> Chadarius, it's linux, but it's not mounted
[10:59] <mindstate> what are the optimal settings for qemu running winxp?
[11:00] <darkbane> AlexC_ and it just self killed
[11:00] <hdx> can someone help me please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5821/
[11:00] <Crescendo_> I'm booting from the install CD, and I'm getting a bunch of buffer I/O errors - brand new HDD - what's up?
[11:00] <AlexC_> !anyone | hdx
[11:00] <ubotu> hdx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:00] <shatrat> Crescendo, possible bad burn of CD, what speed did you burn at?
[11:00] <Crescendo_> Also - ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[11:00] <drx> Chadarius, how do I mount /dev/sda1 so I can edit menulst?
[11:00] <Crescendo_> shatrat, used this CD on another machine, it works fine
[11:00] <main2> i somehow lost the journal of my ext3 partition? > its ext2 now
[11:00] <lightseed> AlexC_: try and find what?
[11:01] <main2> but i dont know how this happend
[11:01] <soundman89> dyrne: used you command,  "mount -o remount,rw/", now what?
[11:01] <Crescendo_> shatrat, also, I've used this CDROM drive to load other things
[11:01] <AlexC_> darkbane: I'm not sure what to suggest then ... smaller files maybe :P hehe - not sure sorry
[11:01] <Hopposai> if i have an amd athlon 32, do i use the k7 kernel?
[11:01] <AlexC_> lightseed: you said it will probably dissapear when you reboot. So why not reboot and find out if it "dissapears"?
[11:01] <main2> can i easily get my journal back?
[11:01] <shatrat> Crescendo, try adding the kernel option "irqpoll" and "pci=noacpi" but thats kind of a longshot
[11:01] <lightseed> AlexC_: its a dhcp connection automatically
[11:01] <erUSUL> !generic | Hopposai
[11:01] <ubotu> Hopposai: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[11:01] <shatrat> Hopposai, use the -generic kernel
[11:01] <Chadarius> drx: Hey I've just had to join a conference call at work... Hopefully I'll be back in about 15 minutes is that OK?
[11:01] <crzygrndpa> Is there a good commandline email app to test my Postfix configuration? (does Pine work with Postfix?)
[11:01] <lightseed> AlexC_: well i know it does
[11:01] <drx> Chadarius, OK
[11:01] <lightseed> AlexC_: everytime
[11:02] <Hopposai> thanks shatrat
[11:02] <darkbane> AlexC_ would it be possible to do a linear dump of the file into multiple smaller files?
[11:03] <soundman89> dyrne: used your command,  "mount -o remount,rw/", now what?
[11:03] <AlexC_> lightspeed try editing /etc/network/interfaces to make it static instead of DHCP
[11:04] <AlexC_> lightspeed: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p3 section 5 Configure The Network may help you
[11:04] <AlexC_> darkbane: I've no idea, never done that before
[11:04] <dyrne> soundman89: you shoud have the / parition mounted read write now. so you can change the root password or anyones. passwd username
[11:04] <lightseed> AlexC_: ok thianks
[11:04] <darkbane> AlexC_ do you know of another way to split the file?
[11:04] <AlexC_> darkbane: no sorry,
[11:04] <dyrne> soundman89: then shutdown -r now  to reboot or just reboot
[11:05] <siodine> Are there drivers for X-Fi?
[11:05] <darkbane> AlexC_ Ok, thanks for all your help anyway.
[11:05] <AlexC_> darkbane: it's ok =)
[11:05] <erUSUL> siodine: no
[11:05] <soundman89> dyrne: do i use the [-p passwdfd]  command in the prompt
[11:05] <siodine> So there's no way for me to get sound in Ubuntu?
[11:06] <dyrne> soundman89: just passwd by itself if changing the root password
[11:06] <dyrne> soundman89: what where you trying to do again?
[11:06] <Potti> anyone here know anything about cedega
[11:06] <AlexC_> siodine: You know, waiting more than 1 minute before moaing that it's impossible to get sound is usualy a good idea.
[11:06] <soundman89> dyrne: thanks you very much
[11:06] <AlexC_> !anyone | Potti
[11:06] <ubotu> Potti: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:06] <ice63> siodine: what is your sound card ?
[11:06] <erUSUL> siodine: most mobos have in board sound HDA or AC97
[11:07] <siodine> ice63, it's an X-Fi XtremeMusic
[11:07] <erUSUL> on board*
[11:07] <siodine> AlexC, how was I moaning?
[11:07] <siodine> It was a question.
[11:07] <Potti> well my question is upon installation i encounter an error "Could not open the file /home/pottie/Desktop/cedega_timedemo_installer using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding."
[11:07] <AlexC_> siodine: you asked if there were drivers, then 1 minute later said "So there is no way to get sound in Ubuntu?" after waiting 1 minute.
[11:07] <lilbeat> hey guys! i installed for the 3rd time ubuntu this week and for the 3rd time i have a login problem where it does not recognise my pass in GUI mode....i am full of it....any help? thank you
[11:08] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[11:08] <zax1> how can i export thunderbird message to a csv file ?
[11:08] <siodine> No, <erUSUL> siodine: no
[11:08] <AlexC_> lilbeat:sure Capslock is off?
[11:08] <lilbeat> 100%
[11:08] <siodine> My "So there is no way to get sound in Ubuntu?" was directed towards erUSUL after he said no.
[11:08] <AlexC_> siodine: I never saw that, sorry,
[11:08] <Potti> Any idea on how to fix my lil problem guys
[11:09] <siodine> So are there any drivers for an X-Fi XtremeMusic?
[11:09] <Crescendo_> shatrat, nope, no such luck
[11:09] <frying_fish> siodine: no x-fi driver yet, there will eventually be one, but not currently.
[11:09] <siodine> Ok, thanks.
[11:09] <lilbeat> AlexC_: it's more seriuos than capslock :(
[11:10] <signature16> is iTunes easy to install using wine?
[11:10] <shatrat> signature16, there are better ways to get music onto an ipod.  itunes is a pain in the ass on any OS
[11:10] <erUSUL> siodine: as i have said most motherboards have more than adequate sound cards onboard
[11:11] <dyrne> signature16: ive heard of some problems.  you could always use osx in vmware :)
[11:11] <frying_fish> siodine: your motherboard will probably have a soundcard built in that will be adequate.
[11:11] <dyrne> signature16: not a fun experience though
[11:11] <frying_fish> signature16: might just be worth trying some of the default programs that come with ubuntu for it, I would guess rhythmbox will transfer music to it
[11:11] <frying_fish> or amarok
[11:12] <shatrat> Theres also GTKpod
[11:13] <eetfunk> Where's the "correct" place to put .pid files on ubuntu?
[11:13] <Chadarius> drx: Ok I'm back mostly :)
[11:14] <Theos> Could someone help me enable my wireless adapter? I am using Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:14] <drx> Chadarius, ok, so I mounted /dev/sda1 and I backed up menu.lst to menu.lst.backup
[11:14] <AlexC_> Ok, gotta go - Bye!
[11:15] <Chadarius> drx: You are the man! Ok so let's edit it.
[11:15] <hbaigu> eetfunk, /var/run
[11:15] <eetfunk> hbaigu: thanks!
[11:16] <bart_> so ... who's stuck with what !? :D
[11:17] <drx> Chadarius, it shows vista root (hd0,0)
[11:17] <thebest> hey
[11:17] <mon^rch> Unable to find an appropriate host video mode.
[11:17] <mon^rch> Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting X is likely to help.
[11:17] <dasickis> hey
[11:17] <mon^rch> any ideas?
[11:17] <Chadarius> drx: OK so when you boot the normal way That is really Linux though right?
[11:17] <doofus> anyone can help me?
[11:17] <dasickis> whats the problem doofus
[11:17] <drx> I'm not sure, dude.
[11:18] <doofus> need to run webfs
[11:18] <drx> it shows Linux root as /dev/sdb1
[11:18] <doofus> but dont know the cmd
[11:18] <doofus> i know it starts with sude
[11:18] <doofus> sudo
[11:18] <spooky> hey all
[11:18] <dasickis> is it /etc/init.d/webfs
[11:18] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[11:18] <dasickis> sudo'd
[11:18] <doofus> yeah
[11:19] <spooky> guyz
[11:19] <doofus> that sound right!
[11:19] <drx> Chadarius, but they may have switched, certainly in Compatible mode Linux is /sda but I don't know what it will be in Enhanced mode when drive 2 is back
[11:19] <spooky> id like some help if you have some free time :)
[11:19] <dasickis> i just remembered that /etc/init.d is where everything is
[11:19] <dasickis> well not everything
[11:19] <elyokko> spooky,  k hay men
[11:19] <spooky> hey :D
[11:19] <spooky> well ive just installed ubuntu
[11:19] <Chadarius> drx: OK so if they are switched than  Vista is hd1,0
[11:19] <spooky> im impressed right Linux is so cool
[11:19] <doofus> das thanx man!
[11:20] <Chadarius> drx: and Linux is hd0,0
[11:20] <dasickis> np
[11:20] <spooky> but i dont know how to connect to the internet
[11:20] <spooky> can anyone help me?
[11:20] <eddie> I need to rip into mp3 because of my player and sound Extractor isn't giving me that option
[11:20] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[11:20] <eddie> any clues?
[11:20] <dasickis> next time try locate or whereis the program ur running
[11:20] <dasickis> it'll show you the paths to them
[11:20] <Crescendo_> spooky, what kidn of problem are you having?
[11:20] <doofus> sppoky im just learing too man but ubuntu is cool!
[11:20] <doofus> sppoky*
[11:20] <Thug-N-Me> how do i make subtitles in mplayer bigger ?
[11:20] <drx> Chadarius, OK, so I'll swap them and we'll see what happens?
[11:20] <doofus> oops
[11:20] <eddie> why isn't there any type of suppoert for mp3 format?
[11:20] <marsswell> comand ip lan?
[11:20] <doofus> spooky
[11:20] <doofus> lol
[11:20] <dasickis> its really a good os to get your feet wet
[11:20] <spooky> I dont know how to connect to the net
[11:20] <eddie> anyone got a clue?
[11:20] <dasickis> aren't you on the net, spooky?
[11:20] <elyokko> slackware 11 is cool men 
[11:20] <spooky> from Win
[11:20] <spooky> :(
[11:21] <bart_> spooky , do you have a router or a modem to connect to the internet ?
[11:21] <spooky> modem
[11:21] <bart_> dsl i presume ?
[11:21] <spooky> usb connected
[11:21] <spooky> yeap
[11:21] <spooky> 2mbit
[11:21] <Chadarius> drx: oh wait Vista was wrong in that last message... its hd1,0
[11:21] <doofus> man connect via enternet
[11:21] <bart_> you want wvdial i think
[11:21] <zax1> how can i export thunderbird message to a csv file ?
[11:21] <Chadarius> drx: but if you swap them then it might work
[11:21] <doofus> i ahd no net probs via ethernet
[11:21] <spooky> wvdial?
[11:21] <Crescendo_> spooky, use a CAT5 cable to connect to your broadband modem
[11:22] <duckdown> Hey all.  I am trying to tail a file but filter out only the things I want to see.. This is the syntax I am trying:  "tail -f /var/log/messages| awk '{print $3,$6,$10,$19,$11,$20}' /var/log/messages |grep DROP"  however, any time a new message appears it just goes back to the prompt.  Can someone correct this for me
[11:22] <Vilhelms> I set the Win key to Super in Keyboard > Layout Options but a key binding with <Super>Button 1 still doesn't work when I press and I left click
[11:22] <Thug-N-Me> no one can tell me how do i make the sub font bigger in mplayer ?
[11:22] <bart_> wvdial - PPP dialer with built-in intelligence
[11:22] <Crescendo_> There's no reason for the USB connection in Linux.
[11:22] <ubuntu> connect xxl
[11:22] <doofus> na he has broadband hehe
[11:22] <doofus> not dial up
[11:22] <eddie> please someone Sound Juicer wigh mp3
[11:22] <spooky> lol
[11:22] <elyokko> alguien habla espaol
[11:22] <Mulder> anyone successfully got radeonfb to work with Xorg ?
[11:22] <spooky> im confused
[11:22] <LjL> !es | elyokko
[11:22] <ubotu> elyokko: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:22] <doofus> dude use a ethernet cable
[11:22] <Crescendo_> spooky, you're on cable?
[11:22] <doofus> not usb!
[11:22] <drx> Chadarius, swap them in the BIOS or change every instance of (0,0) to (1,0) and vice versa?
[11:23] <bart_> DSL uses dial up
[11:23] <elyokko> tanks
[11:23] <doofus> if your modem is in bridge mode yes
[11:23] <spooky> sry but i couldnt understand...
[11:23] <Thug-N-Me> starting the terminal and all other application in ubuntu its a pain ... waiting too long for them to start
[11:23] <spooky> (my crappy english :( )
[11:23] <doofus> spooky: where u live?
[11:23] <spooky> Greece
[11:23] <doofus> oh ok
[11:24] <Thug-N-Me> this is ridiculous
[11:24] <whileimhere> Is there a channel where I might get help on converting video formats?
[11:24] <doofus> do u have an electronics store?
[11:24] <hbaigu> Thug-N-Me, the mplayer man page tell me that there are -subfont-text-scale, -subfont-autoscale options
[11:24] <posingaspopular> Chadarius: was are you working on
[11:24] <spooky> sure
[11:24] <spooky> lol
[11:24] <dasickis> is there a way to get the icons of screenshots of the move in ubuntu?
[11:24] <LjL> spooky: why not join #ubuntu-gr as well
[11:24] <spooky> of course we have
[11:24] <dasickis> like in vista
[11:24] <spooky> ive joined
[11:24] <dasickis> jw, i just saw it on my friend's comp and it look nice
[11:24] <spooky> but nobody is talking
[11:24] <Chadarius> drx: Its fine either way. Bios is probably easiest as long as they match up
[11:24] <spooky> is like a dead channel
[11:24] <drx> Chadarius, OK, let's try that first...
[11:24] <Thug-N-Me> hbaigu man page doesnt says anything .. at least i cannot hear something :)
[11:24] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: Hey man... just some fun bios drive order and grub goodness
[11:24] <LjL> spooky: well, yes, not too many people there. sorry, didn't see you in the list
[11:25] <dasickis> so spooky you have trouble trying to connect at high speeds with ur dsl modem?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> awesome
[11:25] <mips> how can i check what dns servers my pc are using ?
[11:25] <spooky> yeap
[11:25] <spooky> i dont know where to start
[11:25] <spooky> LOL
[11:25] <bart_> mips , cat /etc/resolv.conf
[11:25] <spooky> i go system-administrator-networks
[11:25] <Sebulian> #!mp4
[11:25] <spooky> then what?
[11:25] <spooky> :P
[11:25] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: BIOS's these days... you mess with them and grub bites you back!
[11:25] <dasickis> i'm googling ubuntu dsl modem
[11:25] <dasickis> thats the first place i go
[11:26] <IdleOne> !dsl | dasickis
[11:26] <ubotu> dasickis: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:26] <posingaspopular> haha yea
[11:26] <ddnngg> any1 can help me to update my kernel on 6.06 :> ??
[11:26] <mips> bart_ no I don't want to cat the resolv.conf file which is static. Is there any other way ?
[11:26] <Chadarius> drx also got bitten by Vista... which took over for grub. :)
[11:26] <esaym> do  you have to be root in order to stop and start programs in init.d?
[11:26] <posingaspopular> direct X?
[11:26] <bart_> test
[11:27] <Chadarius> esaym: yep
[11:27] <Vilhelms> I set the Win key to Super in Keyboard > Layout Options but a key binding with <Super>Button 1 still doesn't work when I press and I left click
[11:27] <dasickis> spooky: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:27] <bart_> test
[11:27] <LjL> bart_: passed
[11:27] <dasickis> sorr
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[11:27] <bart_> hehe
[11:27] <Chadarius> esaym: You can use sudo to restart services ect...
[11:27] <dasickis> spooky: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29
[11:27] <esaym> ok so if a program is in init.d how do i start it to run as a certain user?
[11:27] <Indref> This may sound a little random, but I wanna play SimCity!
[11:27] <dasickis> thats the exact section
[11:27] <Indref> Could someone help me install it.
[11:27] <LjL> !lincity-ng | indref
[11:27] <esaym> I need a daemon to start as a user and not root...
[11:27] <spooky> im checking the links now
[11:27] <spooky> thx
[11:27] <ubotu> indref: lincity-ng: City simulator game with polished graphics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (edgy), package size 322 kB, installed size 844 kB
[11:27] <Indref> Woo!
[11:28] <Indref> LjL, Love you!
[11:28] <Indref> Woah it's tiny.
[11:28] <esaym> oh so sudo /etc/init.d/service would stat the service under the current user???
[11:28] <LjL> Indref: it's not *very* much like simcity, mind you, it's different enough
[11:28] <Indref> Is that based on Simcity 200 or the orginial.
[11:28] <drx> Chadarius, I don't think it overwrote GRUB, I think it installed the Vista MBR on the Vista drive and left GRUB on the Linux drive
[11:28] <Indref> 2000 that is.
[11:29] <thesmiler> where can i find out what mount points are valid?
[11:29] <Chadarius> esaym: yeah sudo/etc/init.d/apache2 start would start apache
[11:29] <drx> Chadarius, that didn't work, Linux yields "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"
[11:29] <drx> Vista says "Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format"
[11:29] <Indref> apt get lincity?
[11:29] <esaym> Thank you Chadarius
[11:29] <thesmiler> anyone?
[11:29] <thesmiler> valid mount points?
[11:29] <LjL> Indref: it's based on neither, it's its own city simulator. it shows in an isometric view like 2000 and unlike the original, anyway
[11:29] <IdleOne> apt-get install lincity-ng
[11:29] <LjL> Indref: sudo apt-get install lincity-ng
[11:30] <Indref> LjL, Gonna try it Thank You! :D
[11:31] <thesmiler> guys, i have a 260gb file partition that i can't mount
[11:31] <krimx> What would be the best way to change filenames of a big amount of folders and files all at once? I switched from Windows not too long ago and it seems it's better to have filenames as "yundi_li_-_2003_-_liszt" than "Yundi Li - 2003 - Liszt". Also, how about () and []  are those okay?
[11:31] <thesmiler> what mount points can I use that are valid?
[11:31] <drx> Chadarius, should i try it the other way?
[11:31] <lilbeat> hey guys! i installed for the 3rd time ubuntu this week and for the 3rd time i have a login problem where it does not recognise my pass in GUI mode....i am full of it....any help? thank you
[11:31] <bruenig> thesmiler, wherever you want to mount it. Just make sure it is an empty directory
[11:31] <Indref> Just quickly, I use OpenBox so I don't have a menu option for shutting down my machine
[11:32] <thesmiler> so i need to make a directory in /mnt?
[11:32] <Indref> You guys said to use shutdown -h now, which does work
[11:32] <bruenig> thesmiler, it can be anywhere
[11:32] <bruenig> thesmiler, /mnt works
[11:32] <LjL> Indref: you can also use "halt"
[11:32] <thesmiler> okay
[11:32] <Indref> But it seems to shutdown halfway through the shutdown procedure, what gives.
[11:32] <dasickis> hey is there a way for application specific audio settings in ALSA?
[11:32] <whileimhere>  This might not be the right room for this question but its my only hope Obi Wan, Is there a way to easily convert video files from one format to another? I would prefer a GUI interface but if anyone has a suggestion I would love to hear it.
[11:32] <gavintlgold> whoa, did someone ask about mounting an HD just now?
[11:32] <thesmiler> i'd rather keep it organised :D
[11:32] <ChTib> whats the command to extract a .rar please ?
[11:32] <dasickis> I Know there's a program for OSS but just wondering
[11:32] <LjL> Indref: hm?
[11:32] <thesmiler> thanks for that though
[11:32] <gavintlgold> because that's what i wanted to ask
[11:32] <Chadarius> drx: hold on one sec
[11:32] <dasickis> whileimhere: from what to waht?
[11:33] <dasickis> or just a generic video conversion?
[11:33] <drx> Chadarius, K
[11:33] <doofus> are there any other games for ubuntu like Enemy Territory?
[11:33] <ChTib> how to extract a .rar please ?
[11:33] <LjL> !rar > ChTib    (ChTib, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:33] <bruenig> ChTib, unrar e whatever
[11:33] <dasickis> rar e <your_rar_file>
[11:33] <Indref> LjL, shutdown -h now seems weird, I see the linux stuff about closing down all the services, but the machine dies before it's finished.
[11:33] <whileimhere> from mpeg1 to mpeg2 so that I can watch these clips on a regular DVD player
[11:33] <dasickis> do man rar
[11:33] <dasickis> for more info
[11:33] <bruenig> unrar*
[11:33] <ChTib> thanks
[11:33] <lilbeat> chtib: unrar [filename] 
[11:33] <dasickis> brb real quick
[11:33] <LjL> Indref: that definitely shouldn't happen...
[11:33] <LjL> Indref: check your logs
[11:34] <nofeardjb> !mp3 > nofeardjb
[11:34] <Indref> LjL, If I exit openbox, and then shutdown using the login screen, it takes a minute from the login screen.
[11:34] <gavintlgold> ok, how do I mount a hard drive so that it appears in the "computer" folder?
[11:34] <Indref> LjL, shutdown command takes ten seconds.
[11:34] <Hopposai> quick question.. how do i find out which kernel my nvidia drivers were compiled for?
[11:34] <iratik>  Can't access the ftp server (proftpd)- if i'm on the server i can type ftp localhost and everything turns out right.. if i type the LAN ip - everything turns out right ... if i type in the domain that resolves to this lan ip as the DMZ - i can't connect - what could be wrong ??
[11:34] <Hopposai> i've been trying tinstall the restricted drivers, and i seem to be screwing it up
[11:34] <LjL> Indref: well all i can say is - check your logs. i can have no clue unless i know where the shutdown is aborting
[11:35] <Indref> LjL, How do I check my logs.
[11:35] <posingaspopular> Indref: doesn't sudo shutdown now -0 work? im under the impression that you cant tell ubuntu how long to wait before it shuts down
[11:35] <LjL> Indref: check /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kern.log and their friends
[11:35] <lilbeat> why doesn't it recognise my pass?
[11:35] <Indref> LjL, Wow, that seems like a lot of reading o0
[11:35] <LjL> Indref: KDE and GNOME come with a graphical log viewer, i don't know about OpenBox. you can always just use a text editor
[11:35] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: you have to mount it under /media and alsu have it in the /etc/fstab
[11:35] <jrib> lilbeat: what prompt?
[11:35] <gavintlgold> so the command would be....?
[11:35] <Indref> LjL, Well I can always login with gnome for that if I need to.
[11:36] <LjL> Indref, well, it is, but if you know the exact time when you shut down the machine, you can look for log messages that appeared at that time, instead of just hunting around
[11:36] <Indref> LjL, Gotta go, thanks for the help!
[11:36] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: is the partition/mount point listed in /etc/fstab? iirc if its nt there it won't show up in computer.
[11:36] <lilbeat> jrib: nothing. i try login in GUI and it says again "login"
[11:37] <jrib> lilbeat: at gdm you mean?
[11:37] <self> OK, that's saddist.
[11:37] <self> For a few month's down
[11:37] <self> I come to #ubuntu
[11:37] <self> And I get redirected to ##ubuntu
[11:37] <self> Today
[11:37] <jrib> !enter | self
[11:37] <ubotu> self: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:37] <gavintlgold> hopposai: no it isn't
[11:37] <self> I connect to ##ubuntu, and I got to #ubuntu.
[11:37] <Crescendo_> spooky, you're on cable?
[11:37] <self> jrib: Sorry, nasty habbit to break ;)
[11:37] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[11:37] <lilbeat> jrib: i mean login using GNOME
[11:38] <LjL> self, ##ubuntu forwards to #ubuntu
[11:38] <Crescendo_> (Sorry spooky )
[11:38] <jrib> lilbeat: can you login regularly at ctrl-alt-f1?
[11:38] <self> Oh, almost forgot my question! :)
[11:38] <iratik> wow -- i've been in here 4 times today - and nadda response from noone
[11:38] <lilbeat> yup
[11:38] <posingaspopular> iratik: whats the issue?
[11:38] <jrib> !ask | iratik
[11:38] <ubotu> iratik: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:38] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: for starters create a directory on /media and see if you can mount it there $ mount /dev/hda1 /media/drive
[11:38] <philc_> does anyone know if the icons from the human theme are licensed as such where I could use a few of them on a website of mine?
[11:38] <self> I have an intergrated graphics card, can I still add a descret graphics card?
[11:38] <lilbeat> jrib:but cannot startx from there
[11:38] <iratik>  Can't access the ftp server (proftpd)- if i'm on the server i can type ftp localhost and everything turns out right.. if i type the LAN ip - everything turns out right ... if i type in the domain that resolves to this lan ip as the DMZ - i can't connect - what could be wrong ??
[11:38] <jrib> lilbeat: errors?
[11:38] <doofus> hey how can i make xchat default to this server/channel?
[11:39] <self> Will the descret card "disable" the intergrated componet, or will they fight to the death?
[11:39] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: then see if you can see that in computer (you may have to refresh)
[11:39] <lilbeat> jrib: nothing
[11:39] <linxeh> http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/consult/open-consultations/ondemand_services.html
[11:39] <jrib> lilbeat: have you tried to replicate the issue with a brand new account?
[11:39] <doofus> hey how can i make xchat default to this server/channel?
[11:39] <jrib> !repeat | doofus
[11:39] <ubotu> doofus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:39] <pipepool> hi all, could anyone help me with a pcmcia isdn card?
[11:39] <lilbeat> jrib: i type user and pass, it seems like it's gonna work and then it propts again login screen
[11:40] <posingaspopular> hmmm i dont know all too much about internet connection
[11:40] <Potti> how can i findout the exact hardware in my computer
[11:40] <gavintlgold> Hopposai: ok, i used hdb1 instead because that's what my hd is
[11:40] <jrib> Potti: lshw  may help
[11:40] <gavintlgold> no errors
[11:40] <lilbeat> jrib: i didn't
[11:40] <jrib> lilbeat: give that a try
[11:40] <frogzoo> Potti: lspci + lshw
[11:41] <frogzoo> Potti: or take a look at the hardware
[11:41] <HP_Vue> What else is there besides gnome and KDE>
[11:41] <gavintlgold> Hopposai: I can't see it in computer, but i can if I go to /media/<my drive name>
[11:41] <posingaspopular> xfce
[11:41] <HP_Vue> oh
[11:42] <jrib> HP_Vue: fluxbox, blackbox, openbox, xfce, ratpoison, fvwm, ion, ...  basically 'apt-cache search window manager'
[11:42] <meredydd> Hey there - is anyone familiar with the LiveCD, and its install-to-disk functionality?
[11:42] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: in that case you have to edit the /etc/fstab
[11:42] <Potti> thanks alot guys
[11:42] <jrib> !anyone | meredydd
[11:42] <ubotu> meredydd: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:42] <gavintlgold> Hopposai: ok, so can you give me an idea how to?
[11:42] <posingaspopular> meredydd: whats the issue
[11:43] <gavintlgold> irc is cool.... this is my first time
[11:43] <meredydd> Specifically, I'd like to point it at a loopback image on a FAT32 filesystem
[11:43] <Johnnybravo> ok nm i found it how to do what i need :)
[11:43] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: t what is is your distro/version?
[11:43] <Johnnybravo> thanks for the help pplz
[11:43] <gavintlgold> edgy eft AMD64
[11:43] <meredydd> I can handle diddling loadlin and the initrd to do the loopback mount on boot - what I need is
[11:43] <Chadarius> drx: Ok sorry about that... work got busy all of a sudden at the end of the day
[11:43] <posingaspopular> does ubuntu have a program that can help me do limits
[11:44] <meredydd> a) a liveCD so I can have a working system to install from
[11:44] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: k/x/n/ubuntu?
[11:44] <jrib> posingaspopular: limits of what?
[11:44] <wkdown> RFID firmly implanted in my nethers, DNA mapping complete, I can finally ask questions about Ubuntu lol
[11:44] <gavintlgold> Hopposai: Oh sorry, Ubuntu
[11:44] <bruenig> limits as in calculus?
[11:44] <meredydd> b) A rootfs-in-a-can I can just dump into such an image
[11:44] <drx> Chadarius, I'm in LINUX!!!!! Just have to try Vista now!
[11:44] <shatrat> What would be the easiest way to remind myself to watch anthony bourdain every monday at 9?  I was wondering if there is something slicker than just adding a cron job that pops up a browser window to his website.
[11:44] <meredydd> (or, alternatively, a from-CD installer I can just point at the mountpoint)
[11:45] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: ok a few minutes please?
[11:45] <posingaspopular> (calculus) uh the epsilon-delta defintion, graphically. as x approcaches c.... etc
[11:45] <gavintlgold> Hopposai: sure
[11:45] <wkdown> ok, so I am trying to upgrade Firefox to 2.0 ... what do I do with the tarball so I don't lose my extensions I have with v1.5??
[11:45] <bruenig> shatrat, record a track of you yelling to watch the show and then set a cronjob to launch that track
[11:45] <Chadarius> drx: Awesome! what did you change?
[11:45] <Potti> im soo lost.. i install xp and i cant get online but i install ubuntu i can what gives
[11:45] <whonicca> how do u get that circle to scroll through firefox by clicking the middle wheel on the mouse like on windows
[11:45] <bruenig> wkdown, the extensions are in the config directory. So it doesn't really matter what you do with the tarball, the config directory isn't touched
[11:45] <shatrat> bruenig, my family and friends already think im crazy for yelling at machines, if they start yelling back Ill be committed
[11:45] <drx> Chadarius, and now I'm booting Vista!  YEAH DUDE YOU ROCK!
[11:46] <Chadarius> drx: Sucks you did most of the work man. I'm just taking shots in the dark to help you :)
[11:46] <drx> Chadarius, Changing the boot drive order didn't work.
[11:46] <Chadarius> drx: Shucks that is
[11:46] <jrib> posingaspopular: does it have to be free software?
[11:46] <david_> blackbox problem fixed in stalled flux bux no problems now
[11:46] <wkdown> ok
[11:46] <posingaspopular> Chadarius: ! chadrius! tsk tsk, i thought you knew better than to help the devil
[11:46] <drx> Chadarius, switching (0,0) and (1,0) in boot.mnu DID work (when I put the drive order back)
[11:46] <gavintlgold> whonnica: you have to go to preferences>advanced>autoscrolling and turn that on
[11:47] <posingaspopular> jrib: free.... beer yes
[11:47] <david_> thank again for the help
[11:47] <wkdown> one other question;  I got one of the five button mouses where you can click to go forward or back in a browser .. is it compatable in Ubuntu?
[11:47] <gavintlgold> whonnicca: sorry, misspelled name
[11:47] <Chadarius> drx: nice! I'm glad you are up and running again my friend.
[11:47] <elias__> hello
[11:48] <elias__> I justed install ubuntu
[11:48] <drx> Chadarius, I don't think I would have gotten that (0,0) (1,0) swap without your help.
[11:48] <elias__> It didn't asked me for a password
[11:48] <bruenig> good for you
[11:48] <hairulfr> elias__: Hello
[11:48] <Chadarius> elias__: Hi that is great! How can we help?
[11:48] <elias__> (root password)
[11:48] <bruenig> !root | elias__
[11:48] <ubotu> elias__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:48] <elias__> why it did that?
[11:48] <posingaspopular> it didn't ask in the installer?
[11:48] <jrib> posingaspopular: any calculator can do limits really, just put a number really close to the value that the variable is approaching, for example x->0, compute f(.0000000001)
[11:48] <whonicca> gavintlgold, which preferences
[11:48] <posingaspopular> you can set it
[11:48] <gavintlgold> whonicca: Firefox Preferences>Advanced>General>Browsing>use Autoscrolling
[11:48] <whonicca> and thanks for responding
[11:48] <posingaspopular> jrib: i dont have a calculator....
[11:48] <whonicca> oh ok
[11:49] <jrib> posingaspopular: there are many in the repositories
[11:49] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Hard_Drive
[11:49] <gavintlgold> whonicca: under edit>preferences
[11:49] <gavintlgold> Hopposai: ok, thanks, I'll check it out
[11:49] <drx> Chadarius, how do I make Vista my default boot choice?
[11:49] <posingaspopular> does the edubuntu kcalc have limits ability
[11:49] <Chadarius> drx: Now why would you want to do that? :)
[11:49] <whonicca> thankyou
[11:49] <elias__> I'll read that
[11:49] <bruenig> posingaspopular, you should see if google will do it
[11:49] <Chadarius> drx: LOL
[11:49] <iratik> spooky spook
[11:49] <elias__> and come back if I have any problems
[11:49] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: its not too well written, but i'm on xubuntu and i have no idea what the ubuntu hdd manager is
[11:50] <Potti> idk waht linux has preinsatlef that my 2 windows iso dont that allow me to get online on xp not to
[11:50] <posingaspopular> bruenig: googe does everything, i'll try that. thanks room
[11:50] <elias__> ubuntu r0cks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:50] <Potti> = (
[11:50] <jrib> posingaspopular: yes, if you use the procedure I described.  I know maple can compute limits algebraically, but it's not free
[11:50] <drx> Chadarius, I don't, but the boss prefers Windows.
[11:50] <iratik> i'm so pissed off!!!!!!!  - (j/k -- long day)
[11:50] <bruenig> exclamation point overload
[11:50] <gavintlgold> hopposai: well, i'll try it out.... thanks anyway
[11:50] <gavintlgold> hopposai: is it red even if I don't capitalize your name?
[11:50] <iratik> very very long day
[11:50] <Slart> eh.. why is Banshee using 28% of my cpu for playing a mp3?
[11:51] <jrib> posingaspopular: apparently 'maxima' can do limits as well
[11:51] <Chadarius> drx: You can probably just change the order in Grub so that the Windows boot section is first. I'm sure there is a better way to do it... perhaps we should check http://ubuntuforums.org or http://wiki.ubuntu.com?
[11:51] <Slart> I'm not running a 486 any more... shesh
[11:51] <Chadarius> elias__: Amen brother!
[11:51] <jrib> posingaspopular:  http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs/manual/en/maxima_18.html
[11:52] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install maxima?
[11:52] <dyrne> Slart: applications these days are 95% eye candy 5% functionality
[11:52] <bruenig> posingaspopular, that should work
[11:52] <youkilldkennedy> So I just installed WINE with the Synaptic Package Manager. How do I use it? I'm pretty confused about this part?
[11:52] <jrib> posingaspopular: yep
[11:52] <axa-axa> Hi. When my ubuntu needs to start screensaver (after specified time in xscreensaver), screen goes blank instead!? Does anyone know what is the problem?
[11:52] <gavintlgold> youkilldkennedy: type wine and then the exe file of a windows program
[11:52] <frogzoo> youkilldkennedy: wine windowsapp.exe
[11:52] <bruenig> youkilldkennedy, do wine whatever.exe
[11:52] <Crescendo_> !bicyclerepair
[11:52] <ubotu> bicyclerepair: A refactoring tool for python. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-4.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 752 kB
[11:52] <Slart> dyrne: yes.. but it's not as if Banshee is very pretty.. not 30% cpu pretty =)
[11:52] <Crescendo_> From a fresh install, I'm connecting to some servers (places>>connect to server) and when I open the resulting shortcut on the desktop, it just hangs there "connecting to server" - WTF?
[11:53] <Enphenitiie> Hay Ubuntu.  I'm trying to install now, and it gets to like the desktop, with the intall icon, but there are artifacts everywhere.
[11:53] <youkilldkennedy> frogzoo, bruenig: That simple? Awesome. Thanks for your help.
[11:53] <elias__> guys
[11:53] <Enphenitiie> install, even
[11:53] <pakal> i have problems installing ubuntu 6.10 on a  hp/compaq DC 5700,
[11:53] <elias__> this documentation describes info if you have a sudo
[11:53] <elias__> the installation didn't ask me for one
[11:53] <elias__> (and I really don;t know why it did that)
[11:54] <bruenig> Enphenitiie, and this affects your ability to double click the install icon...
[11:54] <Enphenitiie> I clicked on it
[11:54] <pakal> anyone have installed ubuntu on this machine?
[11:54] <Potti> whats os is abit more windows friendly ? besides windows it self
[11:54] <Slart> any recommendations for a good mp3 software player?
[11:54] <Enphenitiie> But then the artifacts got worse, and it froze.
[11:54] <frogzoo> youkilldkennedy: you'd do better using wine 0.9.30 using the budgetdedicated repos
[11:54] <Slart> !mp3
[11:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:54] <bruenig> !alternate | Enphenitiie
[11:54] <ubotu> Enphenitiie: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:54] <posingaspopular> elias__: see if anyone can help you you or iw ill after this reboot
[11:54] <youkilldkennedy> Frogzoo: I'm not sure I know what you mean?
[11:54] <frogzoo> Slart: either amarok for full featured, or audacious for cheap & fasty
[11:54] <Enphenitiie> Got a link to that, Bruenig? :D:D
[11:55] <frogzoo> !wine | youkilldkennedy | read the docs, enable the repo
[11:55] <ubotu> youkilldkennedy | read the docs, enable the repo: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:55] <patrick_> hi i just online upgraded to edgy and now i get this error whenever i try to run the package manager....E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-multiverse.list (dist parse)
[11:55] <patrick_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:55] <patrick_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[11:55] <drx> Chadarius, hey, can you do an in-place upgrade of 32-bit ubuntu to 64-bit?
[11:55] <bruenig> elias__, any command that requires root priveleges, you just put "sudo" in front of it, and then when it asks you for the password you just put your user's password
[11:55] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: yes it is..
[11:55] <axa-axa> Anyone?
[11:55] <bruenig> Enphenitiie, ubuntu.com
[11:55] <patrick_> what can i do?
[11:55] <elias__> aha
[11:55] <Slart> frogzoo: until the amarok people learn to use threads I'm keeping away from it.. I don't want to wait for it to search my playlist before I can press the stop button =)
[11:55] <Enphenitiie> Gonna make me dig, eh?
[11:55] <elias__> let me try
[11:55] <hairulfr> Hey, what's the app that can draw/animate your desktop bakground?
[11:55] <frogzoo> Slart: now now
[11:55] <Slart> frogzoo: I'll give audacious a try
[11:55] <Slart> thanks =)
[11:56] <frogzoo> !audacious | Slart
[11:56] <ubotu> Slart: A !repository for the Audacious audio player now exists: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[11:56] <gavintlgold> hopposai: ok, good, less work with the shift key
[11:56] <Chadarius> drx: Hey man... you can just edit the menu.lst and set the default setting to 1 and that will probably set Windows as the default
[11:56] <gavintlgold> ;)
[11:56] <posingaspopular> maybe you need to set your password?
[11:56] <posingaspopular> su passwd
[11:56] <elias__> bruening you are the man dude!
[11:56] <axa-axa> Can someone please tell me my screen goes black when it should start screensaver?
[11:56] <drx> Chadarius, you mean move Windows from the bottom of the menu.lst to the top where Linux is now?
[11:56] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: got synaptic?
[11:56] <elias__> :-)
[11:56] <gavintlgold> hopposai: yeah
[11:57] <cheeseboy16> how many ports are there?
[11:57] <Chadarius> drx: if Ubuntu is the first section and windows is the second section then there is a command called "default" that you can use to set it to 1.
[11:57] <Enphenitiie> Can someone tell me where I put my Ubuntu 6.10 CD Please?
[11:57] <patrick_> anyone?
[11:57] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: try installin pysdm and using it, apparently gnome doesn't have a disk manager gui, and this is the best they have atm
[11:57] <Enphenitiie> It's on my floor! :O
[11:57] <Chadarius> drx: that will boot to the 2nd boot section in menu.lst
[11:57] <lee___> i'm doing a fresh installation of ubuntu and want the canned LAMP stuff that's all rolled into the server version but i also want the LiveCD and GUI on the desktop version. does anyone know if you can install the desktop version (so i have the liveCD and the GUI ) but then can install a canned apache/mysql/php something or other on top of the desktop?
[11:57] <Chadarius> drx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359527&page=2&highlight=grub+vista+default+boot
[11:57] <gavintlgold> hopposai: installing now...
[11:57] <drx> Chadarius, so I leave it where it is but move a parameter called default from the Linux choice to the Windows choice?
[11:57] <bruenig> patrick_, pastebin the output of the following command "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:58] <Chadarius> drx: yep
[11:58] <Thor4> slt tout le monde
[11:58] <bruenig> !patebin  | patrick_
[11:58] <elias__> bruering: so there isn't the old thing where you put another pass for a root and another for a user?
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <bruenig> !pastebin  | patrick_
[11:58] <ubotu> patrick_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:58] <cheeseboy16> anyonwe kno?
[11:58] <elias__> I am the root now with the user name
[11:58] <elias__> I entered
[11:58] <bruenig> elias__, not by default, there isn't
[11:58] <elias__> on installation
[11:58] <elias__> aha
[11:58] <bruenig> elias__, there is no root account, just sudo with user password
[11:58] <patrick_> ok thanks i will bruenig
[11:58] <elias__> that's cool
[11:58] <Chadarius> drx: the default parameter is usually set towards the beginning of the menu.lst file so it should be easy to find
[11:58] <cheeseboy16> how many ports are there?
[11:59] <gavintlgold> hopposai: ok... well idk what to do with it...
[11:59] <elias__> btw any user now can install programs?
[11:59] <bruenig> 65535
[11:59] <elias__> I mean if i create a user Bruering
[11:59] <elias__> with a pass
[11:59] <elias__> could he install programs?
[11:59] <drx> Chadarius, I'll check it out, thanks again for all your help -- dude, I so wasted over 1/2 a day Monday on this stupid thing!
[12:00] <bruenig> elias__, I think you can, I only have one user so I never have had to deal with that
[12:00] <elias__> ok
[12:00] <elias__> and now
[12:00] <Chadarius> drx: Yeah it can be frustrating sometimes, but Ubuntu is so worth it!
[12:00] <Roey> hello
[12:00] <aoirthoir> i am back
[12:00] <gavintlgold> hopposai: everything is grayed out and there don't seem to be any options...
[12:00] <patrick_>  bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5838/
[12:00] <elias__> tell me please what should I type to install amsn
[12:00] <elias__> I am as root
[12:00] <aoirthoir> just ate some stove top stuffing with canned gravy.
[12:00] <elias__> apt-get install amsn?
[12:00] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: its pretty simple.. you have to run it as sudo, pick the partition you want to mount and then it will ask you to configure it
[12:01] <Roey> I'm on Feisty Fawn; I'm having difficulty getting connect to the wifi network with this dwl-ag650 d-link pcmcia card.  Can anyone help?   I can see networks out there with Kismet