=== SJ8 [n=sjb@dslc-082-082-054-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #xubuntu [] === baconvanhood [n=bacon@vhe-367407.sshn.net] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === aidanr [n=aidanr@83.147.134.5] has joined #xubuntu === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] Anyone know how to setup pdf-cups so I can print to PDFs? [12:51] !pdf-cups [12:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about pdf-cups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [12:51] Nope. =\ [12:52] BrendanM: why do you need to print to PDF? [12:53] BrendanM: OOo can just export them and AbiWord can just save as PDF === gripir is now known as gripiR [12:55] Actually, I'm trying to circumvent restrictions on a fill-in PDF that I downloaded. It won't let you save a filled-in copy [12:55] it will let you print a filled-in copy [12:56] it's actually cups-pdf, not pdf-cups. I think I figured it out [12:56] !cups-pdf [12:56] cups-pdf: PDF printer for CUPS. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 240 kB [12:56] oh ... interesting [12:57] there we go. By "printing" to a PDF, I've essentially saved a filled-out copy of the form. [12:57] BrendanM: nice === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p4020-ipbf2103marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=Jester45@66.112.68.122] has joined #xubuntu === zOap [n=zOap@84.53.35.121] has joined #xubuntu === BrendanM [n=mccollam@hor-gold95.hor.ucl.ac.uk] has left #xubuntu [] [01:17] Hi, I'm looking for laptops that work 100% with xubuntu 6.10, which means that all hardware are supported without to many fuzz. If anyone knows about more than one it is fine. We may have a whole line of lappies to choose from..(inernet store) [01:17] There may be sites that sell only 100% compatible Linux laptops. [01:17] zOap: www.dell.com/linux [01:18] mg. -checks- [01:18] zOap: www.system76.com [01:18] maxamillion, thanks:) [01:19] Niiice find. [01:19] Finds*... [01:19] zOap: www.emperorlinux.com .... www.linuxcertified.com [01:19] :) [01:19] i eat, sleep, and breath linux ... i try to keep my eye out for such things [01:20] Very impressives prices at system76. [01:21] don't dell charge the same for Windoze & Linux labtops? I can't figure that out myself? [01:21] Sharn: the Dell prices are actually a little cheaper, but you have to install for youself because they only come with FreeDOS pre-loaded [01:22] emperorlinus is pretty spendy, though.. [01:22] grazie: no, it is cheaper for a linux laptop from dell because you don't pay the microsoft licensing fee ... its only $60-80 cheaper, but its nice to stick it to the man from time to timr [01:22] Especially since they're just thinkpads... [01:23] Sharn: yes, very expensive for hardware that cost that much [01:23] Thinkpads are popular. xD [01:25] Thinkpads used to be awesome, but since Lenovo started building them it has gone downhill [01:29] You sure? [01:30] I know the old ones often get Xubuntu thrown ont hem... :P [01:34] yes.. he says the new ones arent good === darrend [n=darren@43-015.adsl.zetnet.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [01:35] anyone know how to use bash script to check from an installed program [01:35] Jester45: what program [01:35] ?* [01:36] mplayer [01:36] mpla [01:36] no no [01:36] ? [01:36] check if its installed via script [01:36] like if its installed give this out put [01:37] Jester45: aptitude search mplayer .... if the output has an 'i' next to it then its installed [01:37] it its not give this [01:37] yeah, uhmmm ... that would just be search functions [01:37] how would i put that in script [01:37] Jester45: FOO=`which mplayer`; if [[ "" != "$FOO"] ] ; then ... === BFTD is now known as OGDA [01:38] those are backticks around the which command, not apostrophe's or quotes [01:39] ok im still beginning scripting [01:40] i put that in a terminal and all i get is a new line [01:40] > [01:40] that's because it wasn't a complete script [01:40] i assumed you'd realise that [01:40] Rofl [01:41] replace the ellipses with: echo "installed"; fi [01:41] i said i now [01:41] new [01:43] also missing a space in the first bit. [01:43] try this: [01:43] FOO=`which mplayer`; if [[ "" != "$FOO" ] ] ; then echo "installed"; fi [01:44] http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bash+tutorial [01:44] whats the fi [01:44] ends the 'if' bloack [01:44] *block [01:44] o [01:44] find a tutorial from that link, there are some good ones [01:45] ok i just started yester day [01:45] you'll find it easier to work from a tutorial than ask on IRC [01:46] one last question [01:47] how can i make it a if not installed then do apt-get install mplayer [01:48] well, apt wil lonly install if not already installed anyway so the script would be redundant [01:48] but for the purpose of the script: [01:48] but i dont what it to try each time or show that its trying [01:48] if [[ "" == "$FOO" ] ] ; apt-get install mplayer; fi [01:50] so if the foo=`which mplayer` part comes back with somthing then its continuies === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-93-34-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === VxJasonxV [n=jason@xmms2/troll/VxJasonxV] has left #xubuntu ["de/part'ing"] === VxJasonxV [n=jason@xmms2/troll/VxJasonxV] has joined #xubuntu === VxJasonxV [n=jason@xmms2/troll/VxJasonxV] has left #xubuntu ["de/part'ing"] [02:00] would if [[ "$yn" != "$y" ] ] ; then FOO=`which mencoder`; if [[ "" != "$FOO" ] ] ; then echo "installed"; fi === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p4020-ipbf2103marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] work ? if the $yn was a y/n question and the answer was yes [02:02] or y [02:03] wouldn't it be easier to try i than to ask? [02:04] i was going just now [02:04] nope [02:04] syntax error in conditional expression [02:05] I am not much of an expert with wireless. Will two clients connected to the same AP generally be able to see/ping each other? === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === delaney [n=delaney@mctnnbsa24w-142167056016.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@69.71.163.58] has joined #xubuntu === Daemonic [i=Daemonic@adsl-70-233-248-190.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #XUbuntu [02:27] how do I set how many virtual terminals I have? The default is six and I never use that many so I figured I'd reduce that number to three or four. [02:28] remove the gettys i think [02:29] I mean permenantly. I think init creates the virtual terminals (which I think are virtual serial ports o something.) so init would be the place to look. [02:30] lol [02:30] thats what i ment [02:31] ha, just googling instead. [02:31] weird. kernel panic (in the guest system) when I use -kernel-kqemu in qemu. [02:33] how you get kqemu i couldnt figure that out [02:33] arrg [02:33] dont talk to me i ahve to get to work [02:34] I see what you mean [02:34] I just compiled it [02:34] stop that [02:34] See what you mean about the getty's [02:34] stop what? [02:34] talking to me [02:35] why? === nighthawk001 [n=ray@201.227.5.75] has joined #xubuntu [02:37] Jester45: you ok? [02:37] did I say something? [02:37] SHUT UP!!!!! :) [02:38] He has to go to work, and lacks multitasking skills. ^_^ === nighthawk001 [n=ray@201.227.5.75] has left #xubuntu [] [02:38] oh [02:38] he could just sign out if he's having that much trouble [02:38] ajakngsdflkgjsdn === kalikiana_ stumbles into the romo, accidentally pulling every piece of work from Jeser45's desktop..... [02:38] you no listen?? [02:39] im learning/working === cellofellow just puts his foot in his mouth. === kalikiana_ throws a pillow in Jeser45's direction === Daemonic [i=Daemonic@adsl-70-233-248-190.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has left #XUbuntu [] [02:40] would anyone like to point out what i doing wrong with a bash script === cellofellow is no expert, but finds bash scripts simple [02:40] what's the problem? [02:40] I would, but I find bashscripts have a horrid syntax :P [02:41] maybe C Shell? [02:42] paste bin ing [02:44] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5660/ [02:44] it doesnt work good [02:45] i been going into this kinda fast [02:46] using qoutes in echo is probably a good idea. [02:46] works fine with out them for now [02:46] but will add [02:46] and do a spellscheck :) [02:46] 'sides that, I've no idea what to do. [02:46] Ending ifs with fis is probably also good. [02:47] i have a habit of not thinking when typing so i misspell a lot [02:48] just run ispell (or aspell, can't remember exactly on Ubuntu) on it. [02:49] aspell [02:49] i have that on ff and irc [02:49] not mousepad [02:50] just aspell -c thefile [02:50] PuMpErNiCkLe: any reason why that wouldnt work [02:50] use more lines and \(newline) to keep it readable === commandosquirrel [n=Devon@ip72-195-184-139.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:50] i get error aT LINE 24 [02:51] syntaz error near unexpected token `then' [02:52] use fi, like PuMpErNiCkLe said [02:52] You didn't close your `. === commandosquirrel [n=Devon@ip72-195-184-139.mc.at.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] [02:53] $(stuff) and a text editor with parantheses matching are your friends. [02:53] wewt [02:53] i got my thinkpad working [02:54] :O [02:54] o man [02:54] im so confused [02:55] Jester45, bout what [02:55] Pmg. Jester45. CONFUSED? [02:55] that script im trying to make [02:55] Jester45: try scite, it's good for all sorts of code. C, bash, python. [02:56] has highlighting. [02:56] or just vim with :syntax enable [02:56] its just bash and should be simple [02:56] it's not as simple as all that [02:58] all i need is 2 strings one if its PAL and one if its NTSC and then edit the aspect ratio [02:59] the part above that is checking for installed mplayer and enocder [02:59] seems like what you've got is syntax errors and an editor with syntax highlighting helps a lot. [03:00] this would be a good script [03:00] turn any video into a dvd [03:00] very simple once its done [03:01] Sweet. I would use it. :O === sunnz2 [n=zac@ppp115-5.static.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] i know [03:01] i could get the part after encoding done in 10 mins [03:02] but this encoding part is nasty [03:02] Sharn: you wouldnt happen to know bash? [03:02] Hah. No [03:03] Rofl.. I can't even get DOS to isntall. === sunnz2 [n=zac@ppp115-5.static.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] !rar [03:05] rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free [03:06] install the rar package to use it in xarchiver [03:07] or install the free one and use unrar e to extract it === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.27.40] has joined #xubuntu [03:15] So a new kernel appeared in the repository the other day and was installed apparently successfully, would you guys think it'd be alright to go ahead and remove the old kernel? [03:16] If the new one works, and you feel comfortable not having a backup... sure. [03:16] Good stuff. [03:18] Jester45: no credit to me for you hostname on your website. :) [03:18] ;) [03:18] you can put it there [03:18] you have access to the ftp right? [03:19] I do, but I don't want to it's yours [03:19] i dont care if you do anything with it [03:20] whatever you say [03:20] you can add a link [03:20] dont delete my stuff [03:20] ok [03:21] did you know furniture polish can really get rid of hard skin? [03:21] i got little baby hands now :0 [03:22] and I can't get into your FTP server [03:22] o well [03:22] haha [03:22] brb afk === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.131.96] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] ....that's nice. xD Furniture polish... [03:45] back [03:45] yep it works [03:47] Anyone know how to make a folder into a floppy .img? [03:51] No-one? O: [03:55] Why not just copy the folder over to the floppy disk in question? [03:57] ..... do you have floppys? xD [03:57] I don't even have a floppy drive... === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d28-69.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:15] Sharn, why do you need to make a .img then :P [04:17] sharn: sounds like you want to make a file with dd then mount it with -o loop and then copy the files to it. [04:17] sharn: You should be able to format it once it's mounted. [04:17] sharn: Then it will act just like a floppy disk. [04:17] can you make a bash script wait a number a seconds to wait for a command to finsih [04:18] jester45: man wait [04:18] i know there is plain wait but that waits for a command to finish [04:18] make that: man sleep [04:18] sllep n [04:18] sleep n (n is the seconds)? === malnilion would guess milliseconds [04:19] jester45: man sleep [04:19] jester45: or info sleep === malnilion would be wrong :P [04:19] i have somthing for the user to input somthing if they are not ready for my script to do somthing [04:19] It's seconds [04:19] malnilion: I'm making floppy images for VMware [04:19] would you say 5 secs is good [04:20] for a user to ctrl c the script [04:20] im also doing it this way for addes experience [04:20] added [04:20] I'd make it 10 if it was gonna fuxor things :P [04:20] well its not a hard choise [04:21] sharn: Again. man dd to get the manual. You want if=/dev/zero and of=/path/to/filename.img and you need to specify the size (check the manual for syntax). Then you mount the file with -o loop to a mount point and format it as a floppy disk. Then you copy the files over and unmount the file and you've got yourself a brand new floppy disk image containing the files you want,. [04:21] choice the things above it is only inputing file path and type of dvd wanted [04:22] Heh 5 seconds should be fine then :) [04:23] i just tested it [04:23] BlueEagle: Alright, I'll look into it. Thanks. :) [04:23] sharn: Upi [04:23] sharn: You're welcome. [04:24] and 7 cools good 10 to long for ppl that know the script and if they look away user might miss the 5 sec [04:25] this is starting to look good [04:26] but its kinda not working now but i working deeper i think its gonna fix it === Dell_Boy [n=Linux_Ma@ip70-181-173-229.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:28] I need Help. I am New to Linux [04:29] What'da need help with? :P [04:29] Server X? [04:29] what is that [04:29] it says my Graphical interface is not set up correctly [04:29] You mean the "X Server" Like, X.org? [04:29] what do i do? [04:29] yes [04:30] Where at does it say that? === MagicFab_ [n=magicfab@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:30] after it shows Swap something [04:30] its after i hit start or install Xubuntu [04:30] So, at startup? [04:30] ya [04:30] So, does it never make it past text? [04:31] yes [04:31] it doesnt make it past [04:31] Hmmmm.. [04:32] im using an ATI Radeon 9250 PCI DDR 256mb [04:32] Did you try to isntall drivers for it? [04:32] Install* [04:32] theirs drivers? [04:32] i only got the Windows Drivers(i think) [04:32] Yeah... do you not have Xubuntu installed at all? [04:32] Like, is that happening on the livecd [04:33] yes [04:33] im on Window Currently [04:33] Ooooh. Ouch. [04:33] I think that might be over my head... [04:33] as long as its xp i dont care [04:33] yes its XP [04:34] im trying to have Linux and XP on my HD [04:34] ok whats wrong with the x server [04:35] If you had it installed, you could probably dpkg or whatever it is and fix it... Being a live cd, I'm not sure how to fix it. [04:35] it says Server X ( graphical interface) is not set up properly (i think) [04:35] and have you installed it or using live cd === MagicFab [n=MagicFab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu [04:35] He says he's using the live cd.. [04:35] using LiveCD trying to try Linux out [04:36] then see if i wanna instal it [04:36] well you cant edit things on the live cd... only once its booted === MagicFab_ [n=MagicFab@modemcable175.169-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:36] I think it's all booted except for X... [04:36] becuase the live cd is on a cd and even if it was a rewriteable [04:37] oh dangit [04:37] the fs i scompressed [04:37] Dell_Boy: does it come to a login prompt or anything? [04:37] no [04:37] What does it do after the error? === MagicFab_ [n=MagicFab@modemcable175.169-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:37] its after swap something [ok] [04:37] then something else [ok] [04:37] then it does the Server X problem [04:38] Does it just hang there? Not go any farther? [04:39] it stays there after i hit ok couple of times [04:39] o its messing up during boot === MagicFab_ [n=MagicFab@modemcable175.169-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu [04:39] it says "After fixing Restart GDM" [04:39] should i download the Radeon Drivers for Linux? [04:40] try waiting for someone smarter like PuMpErNiCkLe or crimsun to look [04:40] o [04:40] ok [04:40] no you shouldnt [04:40] ok [04:41] the driver for ati that comes with xubuntu supports all the caRDS to some extent [04:41] bootable [04:41] Yeah... the livecd should boot almost no matter what card you have.. [04:41] I burnt the Xubuntu Disk from the internet [04:42] what version [04:42] drapper or edgy [04:42] hold on [04:42] I'm pretty sure that's not the problem. :P [04:42] Edgy [04:42] 6.10 Edgy Eft [04:42] You COULD try Dapper.. It may work better. [04:42] Sharn: could make the problem more specific [04:43] drapper is more stable [04:43] ok it did the same thing with Ubuntu [04:43] is pre drapper supported any more? [04:43] 6.10 Desktop [04:43] If it doesn't take you too long to download the disc, I would try it. [04:43] ok [04:43] And, Jester45, I don't think they are.. [04:43] You want a link, Dell_Boy? [04:43] ok [04:44] One sec [04:44] ok [04:44] You want Xubuntu or Ubuntu? [04:44] Xubuntu [04:44] goo choice [04:45] i only have 700mb black CDs [04:45] Hmmmm. Do you torrent or just direct download? [04:45] direct download [04:45] whats Torrent? [04:46] http://ubuntu-cdimage.datahop.it/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso [04:46] Thanks [04:46] Torrent directs the load away from the server. Everyon uploads and everyone downloads. [04:47] oh [04:47] this is going to take awile to download [04:48] It'll take as long as the other ones. =\ [04:48] :( [04:48] the torrents also can be faster [04:48] because the severs dont have that much speed but many users have more speed [04:48] oh [04:48] thats cool [04:49] and even the dial upers can add up [04:49] would BitTorrent do it? [04:49] if you dl from 50 dial up connections you can get 100k/s [04:49] yes that would work [04:49] That's exactly it... :P [04:49] oh [04:49] you can try that it might be faster [04:50] my Download Speed supposed to be 7Mbps [04:50] also you need to give it time to connect to people [04:50] ok [04:50] with direct dls you connect to 1 place on torrents i connect to about 100 per torrent [04:51] Where do i get the Torrent File for Xbuntu? [04:52] I'll grab it, one sec. [04:52] thank you [04:52] http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [04:52] Gotta make myslef helpful somehow. xD [04:53] :) [04:53] 3days XD [04:53] lol [04:54] lol now its 2days [04:54] Sharn: you keep xubuntu iso links in your clipboard? :0 [04:54] see [04:54] lol [04:54] thats cool [04:54] give it 15 mins and that is probly top speed [04:54] ok [04:55] but ig the ETA keep droping then wait some more [04:55] Jester45: xD ah, the site's easy to get to though. :P [04:55] What can i get with Bit Torrent? [04:55] ...stuff. :O [04:55] and if it gets faster than the direct download then stop that [04:55] ... [04:55] Dell_Boy: anything [04:55] XD [04:55] ok [04:55] lol [04:56] Dell_Boy: on one "torrent" vista has been downloaded 30,000 times [04:56] Who's going to tell me how to add stuff to my floppy? [04:56] WOW [04:56] and its been there 2 weeks [04:56] VISTA on Torrent [04:56] im not suggesting it :0 [04:56] then there's ten or so others equaling another 10,000. :P [04:56] vista sucks so bad [04:56] I use Limewire XD [04:56] Vista ftl. [04:56] Limewire ftl. [04:56] ? [04:56] do you get videos from limewire? [04:57] Frostwire and Xubuntu ftw. ^_^ [04:57] dont do it [04:57] gtk-gnutella ftw [04:57] videos programs contain Trojans trust me i tried it [04:57] Jester45: short answer: no. Look answer: you can try. :P [04:57] It'll be slow and chances are it won't work anyhow. [04:57] aXXo. Torrentspy. [04:57] :P [04:58] ? [04:58] lol [04:58] Nothing. -whistles- [04:58] its back to 3days [04:58] It'll speed up. [04:58] i hope so [04:58] Dell_Boy: the most downloaded torrent on mininova.org is season 1 eps. 3 of desprate house wifes and has been downloade d 1,300,000 times [04:58] Ok, how the heck do I add my files to my fake floppy. [04:59] Are you serious?! [04:59] dd it Sharn [04:59] nope [04:59] Ahhh. dd sucks. :P [04:59] well i got that from memory i know its the same show and its over 1 mill [04:59] Crazy. [05:00]