=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-2.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ [n=chrman@nrbg-4db444d3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-87-163.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chezz99 [n=root@125.96.99.20] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] who did the default amarok theme? [01:46] kwwii: did you? === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:59] Hobbsee: yes I made it [01:59] at least, the one for edgy [02:00] going to bed now though...see you in 7 hours [02:01] kwwii: apparently its' very blue [02:01] night! have a good sleep! === chezz99 [n=root@125.96.99.20] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-226-93.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] in feisty is just main enabled by default or other repos? [03:05] and should i refer to them as "software channels" instead? [03:14] good evening [03:14] ah dang it [03:14] brb [03:14] k === wgw has not used feisty [03:14] you might try the main Kubuntu channel === manchicken [n=mstemle@74-134-238-24.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-112128p.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:11] nixternal: what reposotires are enabled by default in feisty and are you referencing them as software chanels or repositories? === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] anyone around or everyone else asleep? [05:11] question i now need answered is how upgrades will be handeld for feisty [05:11] if i recall correctly there is an update manager? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dasickis [n=thebest@hindi.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dasickis [n=thebest@hindi.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:35] any core devs around? [05:35] Hobbsee: no devs are around :( [05:35] jjesse: awww :( [05:35] i think i'm the only one awake [05:35] drat :( [05:35] Hobbsee: my work had an opportuity for 12 weeks of work in Australia, but I was tied up in another gig :( [05:35] i could have come and visted you [05:36] awww! woudl have been great to do it! [05:36] and praetor, depending on where you went [05:36] i know i was pretty bummed === dasickis [n=thebest@hindi.ccs.neu.edu] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [05:45] yeah it would have been awesome [05:45] don't know if the wife would have enjoyed it, but i would have :) [05:45] btw if i'm the only user on my system and change my password, sudo will still work correctly right? [05:46] would expect so [05:46] even if you werent the only user [05:46] changing your UID might, though [05:46] ok [05:46] just curious, never tried it === jjesse has to get the kubuntu chapter to the editor by the end of the week [05:47] ah [05:48] for some reason i have less pages then last chpt due to some of the great changesmade [05:48] ah [05:48] jjesse: main, restricted, universe and multiverse are enabled now in Feisty [05:48] woot :) [05:49] hehe [05:49] hiya Hobbsee and jjesse [05:49] hey nixternal :) === Hobbsee wondered why her feisty died trying to recover a partition [05:50] hiya nixternal [05:51] can someone define what exactly the splash screen is and why i might wnat to change it? [05:52] jjesse: which splash screen? [05:53] ksplash, or usplash? [05:53] the splash screeen i can change from system settings [05:53] there is the usplash which is the boot screen during boot up, then there is the ksplash which is what you see when you log in [05:53] then there are splash screens for stuff like Amarok, K3b and such [05:54] so usplash is what i can configure from system settings under look and feel? [05:54] jjesse: that is the splash (ksplash) which shows the startup process after login with icons and text === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-057-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:54] ksplash is under system settings [05:54] usplash you would configure from /boot/grub/menu.lst [05:54] i think i mispoke in the last rev of the chpt [05:55] nixternal: are you snowed in??? I heard part of chi-town got 8.8 inches? [05:55] we got just over 10" yesterday [05:56] and they never closed the uni [05:56] that's a bummer [05:56] everything else was closed, but not school [05:56] I have some nice 4' to 8' drifts out back [05:56] we had about a 12' drift on the side of the house in between our house and the neighbors house [05:56] wow [05:56] it just drifted here [05:57] the guy that plows my driveway was complainng that .7 inches of snow is turning into 2ft in some locations [05:57] i laughed at him [05:57] I took a shovel and chopped away at the base for laughs and when it fell, oh man did it knock me silly [05:58] i bet that was funny === jjesse is heading to bed before he has to tackle changes to printers in system settings including the new hp thingy in the KMenu [05:59] seele: heh. you pong'd slightly too late [05:59] seele: which is the most sensible order to put the logout buttons in? see backscroll for more info [06:27] Hobbsee: Hi, do you or another one update the amarok package in kubuntu.org/packages (magnatune2.diff) ? [06:28] hi ;) [06:28] Hi [06:28] Czessi: dunno for amarok [06:28] Czessi: i will/have [06:29] Czessi: there's a freeze on at the moment [06:29] Tonio_: if you uploaded it now, it'll just sit in the queue, right? [06:30] Hobbsee: the edgy backport too? http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145/pool-edgy/amarok/ [06:30] Czessi: not yet. will have to wait for feisty's to be uploaded for that, i expect [06:31] Hobbsee: where's the magnatude patch ? [06:31] Hobbsee: I can upload today, when the freeze ends [06:33] Tonio_: http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/amarok.debdiff [06:33] Tonio_: and other patches that upstream asked us to put in (regressions) [06:33] Hobbsee: ok [06:33] Hobbsee, Czessi: will upload today [06:34] Tonio_: great [06:35] Tonio_: thanks === dinosaur-rus [n=dinosaur@ppp91-76-78-27.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:46] hi === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:47] heya [06:48] Tonio_: please check and fix mime data in KDE (for example, "Archive Tar compacte par Gzip" for gzipped tarballs) [06:48] er.. darn I'm late... [06:49] _StefanS_: there's no update to ksmserver yet... :( [06:49] dinosaur-rus: of course not, we're in a darned freeze. and did you file the mime data bug as requested? [06:49] dinosaur-rus: most people will not just drop everything and code you a fix, you know... [06:50] dinosaur-rus: what is the issue for mimetypes ? [06:51] dinosaur-rus: archives are frozen, that's why you didn't get any update [06:51] Hobbsee: recently _StefanS_ fixed logout screen bug (broken buttons, etc.) and said an update will be available soon [06:51] dinosaur-rus: that'll be updated when the archives are unfrozen [06:51] dinosaur-rus: yes, but we're in a main freeze, as !schedule would tell you [06:55] Tonio_: I apologize, that's not your mistake. it's something wrong with KDE -- for some types it selects wrong language... :( [06:55] dinosaur-rus: hum, you get them in french ? [06:56] Tonio_: not all [06:56] french desktop ? [06:57] Hobbsee: _Stefan sent e a patch over his patch with fucked up headers :'( [06:57] pain to apply this.......... [06:57] Tonio_: sorry? === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:58] Tonio_: which was this? [06:58] Hobbsee: the new logout patch isn't a kdebase patch [06:58] Tonio_: ahhh... kick my head... :) they ALL are in French, but KDE is in English (so it should use English for everything) [06:58] it is a diff for his diff for kdebase :/ [06:58] ah [06:58] lovelyy [06:58] that's about as stupid as introducing a patch system, to patch something in debian/ [06:59] let's apply the match manually I think...... [06:59] Tonio_: bet it didnt apply then.... [06:59] Tonio_: you should be able to apply the patch just to his diff? [06:59] dinosaur-rus: never heaard about that issue, that's very strange....... [06:59] Hobbsee: yeah but well that's a pain to apply ;) [06:59] Tonio_: is it? === Hobbsee would have thought standard patch would handle that. [07:00] i mean, that's what it does for debian files [07:00] er, for upstream files [07:01] well what I can do is to apply patches without his patches [07:01] make 2 copies, then apply his patches, then diff again........ pleasure.... [07:02] Tonio_: i thought you could just take the original pathc, modify the new patch to actually patch the original patch, and then put the newlypatchedoriginalpatch into debian/patches? [07:02] or am i missing something major here? [07:02] Hobbsee: how so ? [07:03] Tonio_: can you pastebin the patch taht he sent you, and the original patch, that you're patching? [07:03] Hobbsee: it is not a patch update, it is a diff to his diff :) [07:03] well not exactly [07:03] it is a diff for kdebase that considers his first diff is already applied [07:03] I have to merge the 2 patches isn fact [07:04] I don't know if that's clear ? [07:04] yeah, it is now. [07:04] hos second patch can only apply when the first is already applied [07:04] can you pastebin both of them? [07:04] yup [07:04] Hobbsee: don't mind, I'll just do it, but I'll have to explain him how to do in the future ;) [07:04] Tonio_: heh [07:04] cause doing this + test is a big waste of time :) [07:04] treu that === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.242.192.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee thought diff actually merged diff's properly === Hobbsee will have to try that [07:11] Tonio_: if KDE developers fix that thing, will it be packaged (i.e. will it be considered as important fix)? [07:11] for SRU? [07:11] dinosaur-rus: if your issue is confirmed yes, of course [07:11] Hobbsee: good point :) I was talking about feisty [07:12] Hobbsee: when you shift + suppr and it doesn't has for confirmation, how to revert back ? I can't find that... [07:12] Hobbsee: found it ! sorry :) [07:13] dinosaur-rus: if that closes a kde bug, I'll fix for feisty, but probably not for edgy... [07:14] Tonio_: I'm on Feisty ;) [07:14] dinosaur-rus: so it'll be fix [07:14] dinosaur-rus: but I can't reproduce your issue, I am french, so my desktop is just perfect :) [07:15] :) [07:16] dinosaur-rus: did someone already confirmed the issue for you ? [07:17] I'm surprised to hear about that for the first time === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-033-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:17] Tonio_: not yet because I thought it's Kubuntu-specific problem :S [07:18] Tonio_: so I'm filling a bug report [07:18] dinosaur-rus: that's the good approach yes :) [07:21] Hobbsee: you didn't tell your opinion concerning the little zoom effect for the desktop ? [07:22] Tonio_: did i know about it? :P [07:22] Tonio_: zoom in effect for the desktop? [07:22] Hobbsee: the konqueror effect on execute [07:22] Hobbsee: we discussed about it 2 days ago remember ? [07:22] er, no? === Hobbsee doesnt think that was her? === Hobbsee doesnt remember anything about konq [07:22] let me show tou :) [07:23] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52994 [07:23] Hobbsee: packages are available on my repo for testing [07:23] http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org [07:23] Hobbsee: just have to add my repo and dist-upgrade, then restart kde [07:23] looks to me like just working [07:24] Hobbsee: but i'd like to get the maximum feedback before adding it [07:24] Tonio_: ohhh...that... [07:24] yes [07:25] looks nice, didnt test it on my system === Hobbsee --> grabbing food before work [07:25] okay ;) === Tonio_ gives love to kwlan [07:27] now I have to go. cya and good luck! ;) === ash211 [n=andrew@user-112128p.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-165-229.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-112128p.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-112128p.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-112128p.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.5.14] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ is listening to End of the Beginning by Jason Becker on Perspective [Amarok] === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.5.14] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-36-101.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-112128p.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR_ [i=yT4brpae@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@61.149.4.218] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:56] Tonio_: i have updated kwlan package [08:57] fabo: ah great [08:57] fabo: UVF exception ? [08:57] fabo: universe is upstream version frozen [08:58] Tonio_: yes, UVFe will follow [08:58] fabo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwlan can't see your 0.6.0 upload... [08:58] okay perfect, I'm leaving this then :) thanks for the job ! [08:59] Tonio_: yes, my sponsor must upload it to debian this morning then i ask a sync. [08:59] np [08:59] fabo: concerning klibido you should sync the patches, I've updated the nzb one [08:59] i know ;) [08:59] fabo: there was an issue cleaning args === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:59] utnubu feed is great [09:00] hehe ;) [09:00] yes that's very usefull for the debian maintainers who care about ubuntu patches :) [09:01] sad thing about klibido is that it seems unmaintained.... [09:01] very sad since the base is very nice, but unstable... [09:01] it freezes when you let it 10 minutes idle, I don't know why [09:02] I hope upstream will at least provide a kde4 port of this [09:03] Tonio_: upstream don't want to let klibido to someone atm [09:03] fabo: yes but well he doesn't maintain the code... 2 commits in one year... [09:03] i asked him if he don't have time to maintain it, he can ask for help ;) [09:04] there's someone on the ml, who seems motivated and want to take care of it [09:04] well the app will be forked by someone wanting to improve it then... sad but risks to happen [09:04] I can't understand those developpers who really want to keep the code for them even if they don't maintain it... [09:04] stupid [09:04] i saw some other interesting apps on kde-apps based on Qt4 [09:05] et pis merde on est que deux je vois pas pourquoi on causerait en anglais hein :) [09:05] hehe :) [09:05] bref, la fiert de certains devs me rend malade [09:05] il fout plus rien, mais surtout pas question de laisser un autre mec coder sa place.... [09:05] oui, donc je commence prospecter pour un remmplaant [09:05] monomaniaque, voila le terme [09:06] bah t'as bien raison, c'est potentiellement un des meilleurs grabbeurs toutes plateformes confondues [09:06] sauf qques problemes d'intgration et d'instalabilit [09:06] je sais pas si j'ai encore son mail ... il veut mme pas filer un acces au depot [09:06] mon patch est partiel, mais c'est un hack de merde [09:07] on devrait pouvoir foutre les nzb en queue via la session courante, depuis un double click sur un nzb, mais c'est aps facile a faire :) [09:07] j'ai tent de merger le truc en kuniqueapplication, mais ca marche pas [09:07] tu vois bien les patches qu'il y a sur le paquet, que je lui ai propos il y a presque 1 an ... mme pas commit [09:07] fabo: bah faut forker le bousin alors.... [09:08] ca sera l'occaz de changer de nom :) vu que klibido, ca sonne assez porno aux oreilles de pas mal de monde [09:08] a force de faire des modifs. ce sera bientot le cas ;) [09:08] bien un nom de soft rital ca..... :) [09:08] lol :) === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:08] une chose est sure, ne commit pas mon patch, c'est pas super au point [09:08] c'est clair === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:09] faut que j'arrive grer ca dans la session courante plutot qu'une nouvelle session a chaque fois [09:09] c'est pas grave en ce moment j'upload en experimental [09:09] si j'arrive a faire ca, avec un code un peu moins degueu, pourquoi pas [09:09] waip et puis bon ca fonctionne, mais c'est pas propre quoi [09:09] le freeze de etch commence a s'eterniser === Jucato wakes up and wonders if he walked into the wrong channel :) [09:10] le truc c'est que pour que ca marche faudrait que le code soit orient kuniqueapplication, mais ca demande beaucoup de code cette affaire... [09:10] a moins de faire une option de commande genre "addnzbtoqueue" [09:10] Jucato: hehe sorry we thought we were alone ;) [09:10] it's ok [09:11] I'm actually enjoying watching it :) [09:11] please continue :D === Tonio_ wonders were is the peasure reading somethnig you may never understand :) [09:11] Jucato: mais bon si c'est ton trip, ca me va :) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [09:12] seeing words I don't understand kinda makes me smile... maybe an effect of watching to much Anime lol === praetor [n=praetor@203-166-244-60.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:12] fabo: ceci dit je te souhaite bonne change pour trouver un remplaant :) le code a l'air propre, donc le projet doit tre reprenable par un bon codeur sans trop de problemes [09:13] Jucato: haha :) [09:14] je me demande ce qu'en penserait manchicken... === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] fabo: ca a l'air d'tre un bon codeur qui cherche un projet ;) [09:15] fabo: il a commit de bons trucs pour adept recemment... [09:15] fabo: y a aussi un autre gars ici : _Stefan [09:15] fabo: ca te dis que je leur en parle ? === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@28.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === MrWGW- [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:53] <_StefanS_> mornings [09:53] moin _StefanS_ [09:53] <_StefanS_> Jucatooo [09:54] :) [09:55] heh reading stuff i halfway understand ^^ is interesting [09:56] heh :) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] hey _StefanS_ :) [10:10] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: :) cheers on the update [10:10] _StefanS_: concerning your patch, I had hard time adding it ! [10:10] <_StefanS_> yessir cool [10:10] <_StefanS_> Im running it now [10:11] _StefanS_: your patch is a diff done while the previous patch is already applied [10:11] I had to merge them [10:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: oh.. well I need a little lecture on that diff/debian business === Jucato wonders when he'll here those statements from Tonio_: "I had a hard time adding your patch" [10:12] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I just end up diff'ing all files on my system [10:12] _StefanS_: I think I need a whole semester on that :) === _StefanS_ is NOT a diff master [10:12] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I'm sorry [10:12] _StefanS_: that's not to blame you :) === _StefanS_ didn't get much sleep last night... kids [10:12] _StefanS_: that happens, especially when you learn diff, debdif and cdbs usage [10:13] "cdbs takes away my sleep" [10:13] _StefanS_: the idea not to rebuild the all patch is to use cdbs to edit your patch, I'll explain you the way it works != [10:13] Riddell: hey ;) [10:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yes, we got to have a little session on that [10:13] <_StefanS_> Riddell: hey [10:13] morning all [10:14] Riddell: although it might be nice to have a cdbs-edit-diff alias sometimes === Riddell reboots to test feisty CDs [10:15] _StefanS_: it'll take you 10 minutes to figure out how to use it properly, and you'll obviously love that ;) [10:15] cdbs is genius === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: seet [10:15] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: sweet even [10:15] <_StefanS_> did you read my mail btw ? [10:16] _StefanS_: but don't mind, I did so many crappy things when I started using debdiff and cdbs ;) [10:16] _StefanS_: yes, I'd love the kdesu fade === _StefanS_ has already done alot of crappy diff stuff [10:16] and I'd love the keep above flag on the kdesu window :) [10:16] _StefanS_: concerning the logout window, didn't you use the same i18n phrases than the previous one ? [10:16] _StefanS_: translation fails for me [10:17] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nope, we agreed that the text's should be changed.. remember ? :) [10:17] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: End Session -> Log out [10:17] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: minus 'computer' on all texts aswell [10:17] Riddell: I started to look at the kdesktop context menus translation issue, but I don't understand... it seems to be the same part of code than for konqueror, except the context menus are correct in konq... [10:18] _StefanS_: I hope it'll be translated for the release ;) [10:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: Can't we push that somehow ? [10:18] _StefanS_: I agree smal text is better [10:18] _StefanS_: sure I'm just waiting for the archives to be opened [10:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yes.. no point in "shutdown computer" "restart computer" etc.. [10:19] I have kdebase, kdelibs, amarok and kubuntu-default-settings packages to upload [10:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: the keep above all others are critical to whether this will be usable or not. [10:19] Tonio_: the whole of kdesktop doesn't pick up translations [10:19] _StefanS_: actually isn't not just keep above, it's also that it can't loose focus [10:19] <_StefanS_> Riddell: If we cannot make the window to behave, then we better leave it [10:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: Well I think it can be set as well [10:20] excellent stuff :) [10:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I found a whole list of properties to stick on a window [10:20] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I will do some testing with a simple app to see how it works [10:21] may also be worth looking at the gksu code to see how it does it [10:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell: in fact I messed around in gtk to find that specific net_wm_above* thing ;) [10:21] are there any new superkaramba packages in the latest feisty? [10:21] cause the current ones are very crash happy [10:21] Riddell: ah ? I just noticed a few things untranslated.... how come the rest in french here then ? [10:21] <_StefanS_> Riddell & Tonio_: I was thinking of doing exactly same fade as in ubuntu, instead of using the one for the logout which is more advanced. We dont want it to impose waits [10:23] agreed, waits are bad [10:24] <_StefanS_> I'm not very satisfied with the logout wait (2-3 secs), but it seems it is a Qt bug related to convertToImage [10:24] <_StefanS_> If the desktop if != 24 bit [10:24] _StefanS_: yes, waits on logout are not a problem, but with kdesu that can be painfull [10:25] _StefanS_: do you consider changing it for the logout too ? === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:25] I wouldn't oppose to this neither, as it is a bit slow, especially when using a crappy driver like nv [10:26] <_StefanS_> 2secs, talking on the phone [10:28] <_StefanS_> ok back [10:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well I have thought about changing it, since I hate slow stuff [10:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I will look into it while looking at the possibilities while hacking kdesu [10:29] <_StefanS_> ehh that was a really weird sentence :) [10:29] <_StefanS_> I will look at it hehe [10:30] okay ;) === _StefanS_ sips some more coffee [10:31] Tonio_: desol le boss m'a coup ;) [10:32] donc, je vais relancer une derniere fois l'upstream et je te tiens au courant s'il faut commencer un fork === MrWGW- [n=nondiscl@cpe-75-85-97-183.socal.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [10:33] <_StefanS_> well I better do some paid work ... talk to you guys later === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:38] Tonio_: have your kopete changes gone in? [10:40] Riddell: my kopete changes ? ah the contact list theme, yes it is already in the archives [10:41] doesn't look any different to me [10:41] the patch + the default theme [10:41] Riddell: default config is changed... [10:41] I'm on a live CD [10:41] the background is more blue [10:41] hu ??? [10:41] that's it [10:41] the contact list has a backgrond [10:41] and the theme is different [10:42] muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kopete.png [10:43] Riddell: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp/capture19.png [10:43] Riddell: that's it you have the changes... [10:43] default theme is changed and contactlist background is there too [10:43] that's normal :) [10:44] groovy, can you put that on the Herd 4 page? [10:44] sure === Tonio_ goes bying cigarettes, will do that in a few minutes : [10:44] http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png [10:45] Tidam... [10:45] aw man, I thought they'd gone all civilized and banned smoking in france [10:45] Riddell: it is banned in public, yes, not at home hehe :) [10:45] Riddell: They [10:45] hmh [10:46] <_StefanS_> Tm_T: cool background ! [10:46] They're french, what did you expect? [10:46] I'm sick of that way to forbit everything.... [10:46] Tm_T: now that looks different [10:46] don't smoke, don't drink, don't phone cellphones are dangerous [10:46] don't play video games, that's dangerous for your mind [10:47] do NOTHING ! [10:47] Riddell: Hmm, and that's how my desktop looks when I move back towards "kde default" [10:47] you'll be bored all your life and die happy..... [10:47] I agree non-smokers are prior, that's normal, but forbidding everything makes me sh... [10:48] uh oh, Tonio's turned into a Daily Mail reader [10:48] Can't hate Oxygen icons & colours <3 [10:48] Riddell: I think I should read daily mail then :) [10:48] morning all [10:48] kopete has an option to hide the scrollbar on the contacts list. that's so KDE [10:49] Riddell: yes that's ridiculous.... [10:49] Riddell: :) [10:49] I never liked scrollbar in contactlist. [10:49] me neither [10:49] And my contactlist has bigger pictures than yours! [10:54] has anyone experienced KMail trouble lately? [10:54] I have. [10:54] Stupid MDN stuff I can't get off. [10:55] hmm, mine can't even check for new mail [10:56] Ouch. [10:56] it says "no new messages" even though it hasn't checked at all === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db4455a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:06] Riddell: is there going to be new entries in the meta-release file for kubuntu, or will the same upgrader tool work for both ubuntu and kubuntu, based on the cmd line flag passed to it? [11:07] <_StefanS_> praetor: have you tested the latest logout ? [11:07] <_StefanS_> praetor: you had some problems with it, right ? [11:07] praetor: the same tool will work for both [11:07] praetor: what I'm not sure about is the release notes [11:07] _StefanS_: not I, i'm still capped for another 6 days [11:09] <_StefanS_> praetor: oka [11:13] stupid question but how can we upload images to the wiki ? [11:13] Riddell: I'm adding the stuff in with screenshots, but I don't find the upload image function :) [11:16] may sounds stupid but I really can't find that.... [11:18] Tonio_: not sure if this helps: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpOnLinking [11:18] Tonio_: I've never worked that out, I just enter a URL [11:18] Riddell: ah.... the source code looks like it uses internal images [11:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd4/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=smadept-software-properties.png [11:19] probably changed when you submit the page then.... [11:21] Herd 4 is out tomorrow/later? [11:22] Jucato: I think today.... [11:23] ah [11:23] Riddell: did you had those images to the page ? === Jucato considers upgrading already [11:24] it seems like they are attached to the page, I'd like to do the same... looks possible but undocumented... [11:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd4/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kicker-layout.png [11:28] Jucato: how the hell does that come into the page ? [11:28] heh I don't know either... nixternal would probably know best [11:28] :'( I hate when I can't find easy things like this [11:29] Tonio_: not entirely your fault though... if you can't find instructions for it... then it's a documentation problem :) === Jucato glances at nixternal... === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:29] Jucato: please :) [11:29] nixternal: ping ? [11:30] 4:32 AM... [11:32] Jucato: err, true :) that'll wait for nixternal then :) herd4 will not be out that soon, so no pb ;) [11:32] hehe === vinboy [n=vin@125-238-82-8.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:51] ooh, basket 1.0 got in [12:03] What's manchicken's email? [12:08] manchicken@notsosoft. net === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] Riddell: Thanks === ingmar [n=ingmar@86-39-3-183.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb_ [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb_ is now known as mhb === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee pokes Jucato === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === GNUro [i=GNUro@gateway/tor/x-9b3e78d8eb22e85d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato deflates due to Hobbsee's poking [01:05] oh dear [01:05] seen -ops yet? :) [01:05] gonna read the backlog :) [01:06] oh, and congrats :) [01:06] thanks :) [01:09] hm.. anything else I should know about? easily got lost between your ML reply and SeveasCOOTIES :) [01:10] haha [01:13] Hobbsee: btw, regarding basket 1.0 [01:13] Jucato: hrm? it synced, i saw [01:14] I compiled it from source on Edgy. The funny thing is that it's automatically added to Kontact. But you can't see it in Select Components === Hobbsee could [01:15] at the bottom [01:15] oh, dunno about compiling it form source though [01:15] Riddell: you seem to be in love with basket aren't you ? :) [01:15] if you didnt have kdepim-dev installed === Hobbsee loves basket [01:15] Hobbsee: KDE 3.5.6? [01:16] Tonio_: I've never used it [01:16] ah maybe an update Kontact? I asked in #kontact. iirc someone said it's a known issue... oh well :) [01:16] Hobbsee: are you taking care of the packages fabo e-mailed about? [01:16] Riddell: i'd have to double check which they were. i'm helping to, yes [01:16] Hobbsee: oh scratch that... a restart seem to make everything work now... bah [01:16] Jucato: heh [01:18] Riddell: okay, sorry for the stupid comment then ;) === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:18] Tonio_: Hobbsee's the one that's in love with baskets :) [01:20] Riddell: neat, I see you filled in launchDistUpdater() hehe, I was just about to [01:20] Jucato: :P === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.4.218] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:21] praetor: we should be almost ready for testing too [01:21] Riddell: excellent. uncapped on the 21st so 6 days === Hobbsee wonders if there's any reason why libgpod-dev doesnt seem to be a build-dep of amarok === dinosaur-rus [n=dinosaur@ppp85-140-214-150.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:21] hi [01:22] Hobbsee: I'm sure it is [01:22] oh, it is. twice [01:22] yes :) [01:23] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/85329 [01:23] Malone bug 85329 in amarok "amarok_1.4.5-0ubuntu4 need libgpod 0.4.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === Hobbsee wonders why === Hobbsee versions it [01:24] has anyone uploaded my new version yet? === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.4.218] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:25] _StefanS_: this morning Hobbsee said your fix for logout screen won't be available because things got frozen :) [01:25] dinosaur-rus: things are still frozen. see #ubuntu-devel, and the lack of release announcement [01:25]