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JoshH2kSorry, raylu12:16
rayluNot sure if this will help, JoshH2k, but it's what I got after accepting hlds's license agreement12:16
JoshH2kmIRC is set to auto-decline12:16
JoshH2kLemme change that12:16
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JoshH2kOkay; try again, please?12:17
JoshH2karrrgh12:17
JoshH2kI turned it off....once...under XP....12:19
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Roeyhello again12:19
JoshH2kTry it now12:19
Roeyso anyone have any ideas on how I can decipher this wifi problem12:19
JoshH2kSorry, again please. >:(12:20
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JoshH2kThe reason I'm running Vista/XP on this machine is because I want to be able to access resources on my Linux box from the Internet, but I don't want to open up my Windows machine to the INTARWEB12:20
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rayluHm...a speedy 0b/s12:21
JoshH2k...12:21
JoshH2kConnection failed on my end12:21
rayluBTW, where did you download your HLDSupdatetool to?12:21
Slynderdale!make12:21
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:21
MinatakuJoshH2k: You're running Vista?12:21
JoshH2kraylu: /media/hda312:21
rayluo.0? Why not somewhere like...~12:22
RoeyIndia.12:22
Roeyin India.12:22
JoshH2kMinataku - yes12:22
MinatakuJoshH2k: Get out.12:22
Minatakuj/k12:22
Minatakulol12:22
Roeyarg, I'm on #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #wireless for close to an hour now and nobody even responds to me12:22
MinatakuBut seriously, are you cracked (in the head) or something?12:22
JoshH2kraylu - because hda3 is an empty partition to share information easily between my Kubuntu & Fedora installations12:22
rayluRoey, I tried, but I don't even have any ideas :P sorry12:22
JoshH2kMinataku - I got it for free through my university, and I'm going into the field of systems engineering. :P12:22
Roeyraylu:  thanks for helping :)12:23
JoshH2kI'm going to see if it's the Windows firewall that's screwing things up, raylu12:23
rayluJoshH2k, hm...I still think it's worth a try sticking it in ~12:23
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JoshH2kI'll try that12:23
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JoshH2kThat worked.12:24
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JoshH2kFor no damn reason.12:24
JoshH2kSeriously.  WTF?12:24
MinatakuJoshH2k: Sorry... I can't imagine anyone sane willingly using Windows Vista for any reason other than masochistic pleasure12:24
ubuntu_hola12:25
JoshH2kIt's not bad at all, Minataku.12:25
JoshH2kGranted, I wouldn't have installed it if it weren't free.12:25
JoshH2kBut I'm graduating this semester, and having "Windows Vista (Business Edition)" on my resum is a big plus.12:25
HymnToLifeI wouldn't install it even if it was free as in freedom :p12:26
rayluI would get it too, just to see how it is. I'm limited by HD space, though.12:26
MinatakuJoshH2k: Not if I was reading your resume12:26
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JoshH2k...you'd consider it a minus?12:26
Admiral_ChicagoMinataku: good yount.12:26
rayluwe can add "curiosity" to the list of "masochistic pleasure"12:26
MinatakuJoshH2k: I'd set it on fire, rub my hands with bleach then set the lighter I used to light the resume on fire12:27
Admiral_Chicagooops, i'm dyslexic. point12:27
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JoshH2kPlus the Linux-like UAC is dandy.12:27
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MinatakuHm... add an extra "on fire" to the end of that12:27
rayluuac = ?12:27
JoshH2kUser Access Control12:27
JoshH2kSimilar to sudo12:28
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JoshH2kYou can't make any system changes without logging in as an administrator12:28
MinatakuJoshH2k: Of course it's nifty... it wasn't their idea12:28
rayluOh yeah. My fried tried to read his xp partition with vista RC1 and it refreshed the screen twice for 2 dialogs for every folder he went into.12:28
JoshH2kNever said it was.  Thus, "Linux-like".  :P12:28
rayluBut I'm guessing that was a misconfig.12:28
JoshH2kIf I thought it was, I would have said how neat it is that Linux has that "Vista-like" function.12:28
Minatakuraylu: Probably not12:28
JoshH2kraylu - I've not run into that problem12:29
Minatakuraylu: Vista cooks video cards like delicious strips of bacon12:29
JoshH2kMine's doing fine.12:29
rayluAnd we also encountered an irreproducible bug where12:29
MinatakuExcept burning epoxy and phenolic smell like absolute crap12:29
rayluanother friend said "penis" into the voice recognition software and it crashed :P:12:29
Minatakuraylu: lol12:29
MinatakuNote I had to downplay what that smells like... not allowed to swear in here even when needed12:30
MinatakuAnd trust me, when describing burning phenolic... it's needed12:31
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MinatakuBesides, unless it's Vista Ultimate you're just paying $300 for a half-assed XP service pack12:33
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rayluHm...does Kopete log conversations?12:33
MinatakuAnd if it's Vista Ultimate that extra $100 gets you absolutely nothing useful whatsoever12:33
JoshH2kUh?12:33
JoshH2kVista has .NET 3.0 and DX10 - two things XP will not have12:33
MinatakuOh, except the DRM, copy protection and "security"12:34
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rayluThe problem I have with Vista is it seems to not be backwards compatable towards XP for some apps. Especially games12:34
Admiral_Chicagosomething GNU / Linux will never have12:34
MinatakuBingo, Admiral_Chicago12:34
JoshH2kFurthermore, Ultimate provides HD video editing software as well as software to interface with a 360.  Not something everyone needs, but not useless.12:34
MinatakuSay, did you get voted in?12:34
rayluNow, does anyone know about Kopete logging?12:34
JoshH2kraylu - that's why I've done an XP/Vista dual-boot.12:34
MinatakuJoshH2k: HD video encrypting software?12:34
Admiral_ChicagoMinataku: you asking mo?12:34
MinatakuUseless12:34
Admiral_Chicagome*12:34
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MinatakuAdmiral_Chicago: Yeah12:35
JoshH2kMinataku - why is it useless?12:35
rayluJoshH2k, I want to too, but that means I'd have xp + vista + linux triple boot...which is too much.12:35
Admiral_ChicagoMinataku: i got voted in as a member as of yesterday12:35
MinatakuAdmiral_Chicago: Cool12:35
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rayluMember of?12:35
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MinatakuJoshH2k: I wouldn't trust Vista with ANY of my content12:35
Admiral_ChicagoUbunutu Member12:35
rayluo.0? What does that mean/give you?12:35
MinatakuLest it become DRM'd for some reason then suddenly it's not mine anymore12:35
JoshH2kWhat leads you to say that, Minataku?12:36
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MinatakuJoshH2k: Who knows what MS has up their sleeves12:36
JoshH2kSo...you basically have no basis for your statement.12:37
Branded_Atomhahaha, how funny would that  be, eula: anything made using this software belongs to MS12:37
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Roeysounds like a plan.12:38
MinatakuBranded_Atom: It would be funny if it weren't for the fact that I wouldn't be surprised if they tried that12:38
Branded_Atomoh come on12:38
RoeyAnyone else having difficulty getting a successful wifi connection with a d-link dwl-ag650 pcmcia card?12:38
Branded_Atomeven the evil empire couldn't get away with THAT12:38
MinatakuBranded_Atom: It wouldn't be that cut and dry, of course12:38
rayluThat reminded me of12:39
rayluhttp://bash.org/?57745112:39
MinatakuIt would be more along the lines of it being automatically tainted with DRM then suddenly it's against the law to use your own property the way you want to because of the DRM applied12:39
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inteliwaspwhat do i need to do to share a folder between 2 linux boxes?12:42
ChousukeNFS12:42
Chousukeor sshfs12:42
inteliwaspany gui based options?12:43
rayluChousuke, which would you recommend?12:43
Chousukeof NFS and SSHFS? hmm.12:44
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ChousukeI suppose NFS is better.12:44
Chousukesshfs is kind of hack-ish12:44
MinatakuNFS is more established12:44
Chousukeyeah.12:44
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MinatakuSSHFS is a FUSE thing, I believe12:45
Chousukethough I have the impression that many people hate it and think that it sucks12:45
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Chousukebut many things suck, yet they're being used12:45
MinatakuChousuke: Like Vista12:45
ChousukeMinataku: I really don't know12:45
ChousukeI have yet to even see a box running windows vista.12:46
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MinatakuUnforunately, I don't12:47
rayluinteliwasp, you could use SSH, I think12:47
ChousukeNFS is relatively simple to set up12:47
MinatakuNor do I have yet to see someone falling all over themselves with ignorant love for it12:47
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MinatakuI'll stop now, though, sorry all for that12:48
jsheedyhas anyone been able to install the googlebar extension for Firefox?12:49
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Chousukeit's not GUI though, but it's not excruciatingly difficult if you're not scared to death by editing a few simple configs.12:50
Chousukeof*12:50
Chousuke!nfs12:50
Chousukehmm.12:50
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.12:50
inteliwaspit's nice that the wiki is have more languages up, but it is annoying to click on a title that is English but the article is in another language12:50
jsheedynm think I got it12:50
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Chousukeinteliwasp: that isn't in english for you?12:50
inteliwaspi ment a few other wiki entries12:51
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frojndhello I need help. I need to convert 434 pages of pdf into odt or word12:54
frojndhow can I do this with pdftk utillity?12:55
frojndis there some expert who knows how to do this12:55
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david_#kubuntu-es12:59
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Branded_Atomfrojnd: i don't think pdftk can do that01:00
frojndyeah, I just heard :s01:00
frojndthe problem is I tryed to convert it with Kword01:00
nomad411hi everyone.  A friend at work dropped his Presario 2100 on me today to fix his botched Kubuntu install01:00
frojndbit the result wasn't that good01:00
frojndsome pages (pictures) are mixed up..01:00
frojnd:S01:00
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nomad411Would anyone know of issues with Kubuntu on there before I spend time on it?01:00
nomad411I have so little of it. :(01:01
flaccidkubuntu has lots and lots of issues01:01
flaccidcare to fix?01:01
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flaccid!bugs01:01
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots01:01
Branded_Atomfrojnd: there seems to be windows apps to do it01:02
Branded_Atomnot so  much ubuntu01:02
Branded_Atomwould html be ok?01:02
frojndBranded_Atom: what windows apps?01:02
Branded_Atompdf2soc, solid converter, i'm  seeing may be able to do what  you need01:04
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frojnd!pdf20001:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pdf200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
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veganrihi, i'm using wine to run one of my apps and it says:01:12
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veganrisorry there was a problem opening the profile "winefake" for display "x11 windowing system" please select a different profile using profile chooser (2)01:15
veganrianyone able to help please ?01:15
veganrican someone please help01:19
frojndbased on this plain, README txt, can someone tell me how to isntall pdf200: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5850/01:19
tarelerulzany of you installed wireless card and gotten it to work if so what did you use01:19
frojndwhen I downloaded, pdf200 there was 3 files: LICENSE  pdf2oo  README01:19
docMuertosome send me on pastebin.ca the sources.list kubuntu Feisty please !!01:20
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MariseTTTdoes any one know the name of the boot manager that's supposed to be faster than grub or lilo ?01:24
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MariseIs there any boot loader faster than Grub ??01:32
tarelerulzI can see my wireless card ,but I can't connect to the open network at the library I did the auto settings01:32
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frojndthis pdf200 is driving me crazy01:34
frojndhow can I isntall it01:34
Branded_Atomfrojnd: get the packages it specifies01:35
frojndyes, I got it01:35
frojndbut there isn't any pdf20001:35
Branded_Atomthen put the thing into /usr/local/bin01:35
Branded_Atomyou got ALL the packages in  the readme?01:35
Branded_Atomimagemagick, xpdf-utils etc...01:36
frojndyes for fext mode01:37
frojndgor GUI I  wasn't able to get kdelibs-bin01:37
Branded_Atompdftoppm etc...01:37
frojndwell I was installing for debian01:38
Branded_Atomi'm not sure entirely, but i think everything under "command" means "generic"01:39
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frojndI tryed for command but it can' find the packages..01:39
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frojndarrh01:41
frojndI need to conver pdf into odt :S01:41
frojndI am so despered01:41
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aseigofrojnd: depending on the pdf.. you could try opening it in kword (it does pdf import) and export to odf? i wonder if scribus has odf output.... hm.01:43
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danehello01:43
daneits my first time in hear01:43
frojndaseigo: I tryed with Kword, it converted me in to odt, but the pages where hum, strange couse pictures inported from pdf were mixed.. covering each other.. and I have of 434 pages..01:44
danein hear look cook01:44
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Branded_Atomfrojnd: would html be an acceptable alternative to .docs?01:44
hybridhere01:44
hybridit's01:44
frojndhtml?01:44
aseigofrojnd: zoinks.01:44
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hybrid;)01:44
danein hear look kool01:44
Admiral_Chicagoheya hybrid01:44
frojndBranded_Atom: html is the package?01:45
frojndaseigo: zoinks is the package?01:45
rjiancan someone teach me how to unmount the disk in kubuntu?01:45
Branded_Atomhtml, you know, html, not .odt or .doc,  but .htmll01:45
aseigofrojnd: no, that's just an uttering of "wow'01:45
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aseigorjian: open konqueror, go to media:/, right click on the disk and select unmount01:46
rjianaseigo: it give me an error msg...01:46
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yogiWhere does one find the restricted codecs for kubuntu?  They aren't in 'Add/Remove Programs".01:46
frojndBranded_Atom: I need to get .doc at the and.. :)01:47
yogiI'm talking 'FEISTY'... sorry.01:47
Admiral_Chicago!restricted | frojnd01:47
ubotufrojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:47
scooterhello is there a myspace im for linux01:47
yogicool. Thanks!01:47
hybridhi Admiral_Chicago01:47
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scooteror can someone walk me through the install using wine01:48
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Admiral_Chicagohybrid: my cloak isn't working so I gave up on it :(01:49
Admiral_Chicagoscooter: what are you trying to do01:49
Admiral_Chicagoinstall wine?01:49
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felesberyl goes down after I install ati drivers and make the resolution 1200x800, any ideas?01:49
tarelerulzWhat do you want to install wine for? admiral01:49
scooterno im trying to install the myspace im messenger but it seems to only be for windows and i need to use wine to get it installed01:50
Admiral_Chicagotarelerulz: i'm not, scooter might be though01:50
Admiral_Chicagooh, hmm do you have wine installed?01:50
scooteryes its installed01:50
scooterfor my terminal01:50
Admiral_Chicagookay, right click on the .exe and there should be an install function01:51
scooterok hang on01:51
scooteri wouldnt be that lucky lol01:52
scooterlet me make 100% sure wine is installed be right back01:52
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felesany help for berly?  have got a widescreen problem with it01:54
lotusleaffeles: #beryl #ubuntu-xgl01:54
Admiral_Chicagolotusleaf: #ubuntu-effects also01:54
lotusleafAdmiral_Chicago: ya? cool thx :)01:55
lotusleafAdmiral_Chicago: #ubuntulive :P01:55
feleslotusleaf: I have installed them all nad berly was working fine, after I installed ati and change the resolution berly goes down01:56
hybridAdmiral_Chicago: what cloak?01:56
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scooteri told you wrong its not installed can you please help01:56
Admiral_Chicagohybrid: membership, i got it yesterday and the cloak today.01:56
Admiral_Chicagoscooter: in a terminal. sudo apt-get install wine01:57
scooterwine is already the newest version.01:57
scooter0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.01:57
scooterthis is what i get01:57
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Admiral_Chicagoso you have the latest version01:58
scooteryea01:58
tony_hi01:58
scooterbut i forgot how to use it in terminal because it wont work otherwise01:58
tony_who knows how to use chinese input in ubuntu?01:58
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Admiral_Chicagoscooter: where is the file on your computer?01:59
scooteron my desktop01:59
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hybridAdmiral_Chicago: CONGRATS!01:59
Admiral_Chicagohybrid: thanks02:00
Admiral_Chicagohybrid: -offtopic if you want02:00
scooteradmiral_chicago: thanks so much for helping02:00
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rjian!upgrade dapper02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upgrade dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
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hybridkk02:02
jtmoneyi have all the repositories enabled on two machines... on my i386 install, i can "sudo apt-get install ivtv-source" without a problem, but on my amd64 box, i cannot... what gives?02:02
scooteradmiral_Chicago: the file is on my desktop02:02
Admiral_Chicagoscooter: cd Desktop && wine *.exe02:03
scooterthanks02:03
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jtmoneyanyone? =(02:05
jtmoneydon't make me install opensuse =(02:06
jtmoneyi've searched all the forums and can't find anything02:06
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redcardWe won't make you install opensuse. :)02:07
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scooterit did a little bit then stopped lol02:07
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redcardjtmoney: You have installed the multiverse, right?02:07
jtmoneyyes02:07
jtmoneyall respositories are enabled02:08
jtmoneyit's the craziest thing02:08
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redcardTry switching to a different copy of the repo02:08
moiseshey guys. I have a logitech quickcam orbit - does anyone know how to get it working in linux?02:08
adz21chi, anyone have any idea what this might mean? *** No rule to make target `dummy-checksum.c', needed by `dummy-checksum.o'.  Stop.02:08
jtmoneyredcard: i'm not sure how to do that02:08
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redcardjtmoney: sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list02:09
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Alethesanybody know how to keep the baghira sidebar from showing multiple icons for a cd-rom that is mounted automatically?02:09
jtmoneydoes that make sense though? my 32-bit install sees it fine, just not the 64-bit install02:09
redcardHmm.02:09
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redcardTry apt-cache search ivtv-source02:09
jtmoneynothing02:10
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redcardHmm.02:10
redcardHave you done a sudo apt-get update ?02:10
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moisesdoes anyone have any idea how to make webcams work in ubuntu?02:11
jtmoneyyes02:11
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redcardWell.. I dunno what to suggest, jt.02:13
redcardPossibly the repository you're using doesn't have it..02:13
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lunitikAnyone have issues installed Herd 3?02:14
jtmoneyredcard: how can i go about changing the repositories? is there a list of mirrors somewhere?02:15
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redcardYeah.. I'm looking it up, Jt02:15
Tm_Tlunitik: Doing gallup?02:15
Admiral_Chicagolunitik: i haven't but that question is for #ubuntu+102:15
lunitikjtmoney: take a look at apt-spy  (I think that's the prefered one still?)02:15
redcardjtmoney: What repository do you use?02:15
lunitikAdmiral_Chicago: you could get it installed?02:16
jtmoneyredcard: i enabled everything that was disabled by default02:16
redcardjtmoney: OH.. here's a question.. did you enable the source repository?02:16
jtmoneybackports, universe, multiverse, etc.02:16
Admiral_Chicagolunitik: no i upgraded from edgy02:17
jtmoneyyes02:17
lunitikAdmiral_Chicago: ugh.... well thanks anyways02:17
redcardHmmm.02:17
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jtmoneyi did a fresh install on here too... i was having the same problem yesterday02:18
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jtmoneyhah, and ivtv's web site doesn't support kernel .11... only the newer ones02:20
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borkoany1 use kile?02:21
DacrVan itt magyar?02:21
jtmoneywait, i'm gonna try and compile it from the source02:22
jtmoneythis should work02:22
tarelerulzI can't get mplayer to work and I add arts , esd alsa to the command line02:22
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jtmoneybrb02:23
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jtmoneywell, i got ivtv working and tested it and i'm getting a signal... but mythtv is not listed in adept... it HAS to be because this is the amd64 version02:37
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jtmoneynow, there should be some way that i can install 32-bit packages on here, right?02:37
intelikey!chroot02:38
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box02:38
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Sannejtmoney: you also can install 32 bit apps manually (usually /usr/local or /opt). You would also need to have any required libs those apps need also in 32 bit version, which may or may not be a hassle.02:39
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jtmoneyintelikey and Sanne: thank you02:39
emjay!it02:39
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:39
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Sannejtmoney: I'll find you some general info, sec02:40
jtmoneyi might just install the i386 version on here02:40
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SlynderdaleHow do you open Konsole?02:41
Admiral_ChicagoSlynderdale: alt + space. kon [enter] 02:41
Sannejtmoney: two links, the 64 bit forum on ubuntuforums, and helpful wiki pages: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=134 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=64&titlesearch=Titles02:41
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SlynderdaleAdmiral_Chicago: Alt+space didn't do anything02:42
Admiral_ChicagoSlynderdale: alt + F2, konsole02:42
Admiral_Chicagoyou don't have katapult on which is odd02:43
intelikeySlynderdale it's in the kmenu  or you can type in commands    ^02:43
jtmoneySanne: thanks02:44
Sannejtmoney: you're welcome02:44
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago where is datapult default ?02:44
intelikeycatapult02:44
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Admiral_Chicagointelikey: define "where"02:44
intelikeywhere generally denotes a specific point in space or time.02:45
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Admiral_Chicagointelikey: no but katapult has a ton of files, i assumed you mean where is it installed02:45
SlynderdaleHmm, can someone give me the command to open konsole so I can add it to my menu?02:46
intelikeyno i mean  "<Admiral_Chicago> you don't have katapult on which is odd" <<< would imply that catapult was a default app02:46
intelikeykonsole Slynderdale02:47
intelikeythat is the command.02:47
intelikeykonsole02:47
Admiral_Chicagokatapult is installed by default for kubuntu. i mean it's not on02:47
intelikeyit is installed by default on kubuntu ???  i've never seen it.02:47
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: space + alt ?02:48
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago like i said.  i've never seen it02:48
Admiral_Chicagothat's very strange.02:49
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psykcan someone please tell me how to install a file with the *run in kubuntu linux02:49
intelikeypsyk execute it02:50
intelikey!run02:50
psykhow do i do that02:50
Sannepsyk: are you sure it's not in the official ubuntu repositories?02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
psyktype no its a game02:50
psykAmercan Army02:50
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LjLintelikey: but you can't hide02:50
Admiral_Chicagopsyk: ./02:50
psykyeah02:51
cj_hello dood morning02:51
Sannepsyk: ok02:51
cj_to all02:51
intelikeypsyk chmod 700 file.run ;./file.run02:51
psykso type !RUN  than the filename?02:52
psyki got this file armyops250linux.run02:52
psyknow i want to install it02:52
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago   katapult - item launcher for KDE02:53
psyki go to the directory and type !run armyops250linux.run02:53
intelikeyThe following NEW packages will be installed:02:53
intelikey  katapult02:53
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: what version?02:53
intelikeyseems it isn't installed in dapper02:53
Admiral_Chicagoi had it then.02:53
intelikeymaybe you installed it02:53
Admiral_Chicagono. i put dapper on my buddy's system and katapult was installed02:54
intelikeypsyk#    chmod 700 file.run ;./file.run02:54
psykwhats chmod 700 file.run mean02:54
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intelikeypsyk means you probably don't need to be executing commands...02:55
iroxorsjuhey everyone02:55
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iroxorsjucan somone point me in the direction to learn linux02:57
iroxorsjuI am gonan try it out02:57
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago hmmmm maybe it is a dep. on kubuntu-desktop   seems to list it when i issue  install kubuntu-desktop    but i have installed from the kub. live on several systems  never saw alt+space do anything...   (never really looked for it either)02:57
iroxorsjuI got Kubuntu installed already02:58
om3gadoes any one like KOffice better than openoffice?/02:58
Admiral_Chicagoiroxorsju: there is an official desktop guide02:58
Admiral_Chicagoom3ga: i do02:58
iroxorsjuone that teachs you how to install programs from the web you find like boinc02:59
om3gaok im about to try it out just thought i would ask02:59
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intelikeypsyk chmod is a command to CHange the MODification privledges (aka permissions) on an inode    700 would make the owner able to read/write/execute the file and no one else.02:59
Branded_Atomiroxorsju: my advice, don't install from the web, use system-> adept_package manager03:00
Admiral_Chicagoiroxorsju: BOINC is in the repositories03:00
iroxorsju..03:00
intelikeypsyk then the   ;./file.run    portion of that command would execute the file.03:00
Branded_Atomthats got nearly everything you could be looking for, and its automated to install to your specific distro and libraries03:00
iroxorsjuman this is like a shock to the system lol03:00
Branded_Atomits so much better than trying to check  on dependencies etc, yourself03:02
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BluesKajBranded_Atom , where do you think adept installs the pkges from ...the repositories reside on the net03:02
iroxorsjui went in there and typed Boinc i don't see it i am searching around in the desktop guide now03:03
intelikeyBluesKaj yeah but that's not what Branded_Atom meant03:03
Branded_Atomcomparing adept to googling for a specific thing?03:03
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BluesKajwell ppl who aren'yt familiar with the way pkg repos work could be misguided by his statement03:04
intelikeyboinc-client - core client for the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure03:04
intelikeyboinc-manager - GUI to control and monitor the BOINC core client03:04
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dwidmannom3ga: I do03:05
intelikeyyeah and people that only have the dvd repo could assume that it was pefrectly wise03:05
tarelerulzI am trying to use mplayer and I compiled it with arts is that a good idea03:05
psykim just trying  install a file qwith the *.run extension03:06
psykand no one inhere canhelpme03:06
psykIM very knew to linux03:06
intelikeytarelerulz why did you compile it ?03:06
intelikeypsyk i told you how,  and explained the meaning of the commands.03:07
intelikeypsyk scroll up  ^03:07
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dwidmannintelikey: well, you've gotta admit the more recent versions are qutie a bit superior to the pre7 release03:07
intelikeydwidmann i don't have to admit any such thing.     just use vlc.03:08
intelikey:)03:08
BluesKajpsyk , usually *.run files are driver installers03:08
intelikeyBluesKaj it's a game in that case  ^03:09
dwidmannintelikey: I bounce around msyelf, but if I'm going to use mplayer, I'll be d***ed if I'm not using the release candidate, or at least the pre8 release03:09
psykSh  than the filename03:10
intelikeydwidmann fair enough.   then arts  and/or  alsa03:10
psykis how you install .run files03:10
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dwidmannI always use alsa with mplayer03:10
Nicknamehi03:11
Nicknamei have a problem03:11
dwidmann("mplayer -vo xv -ao alsa") *thumbs up*03:11
HymnToLifepsyk, sh /path/to/file.run03:11
HymnToLifewith sudo if needed03:11
Nicknamei try to install kubuntu on my computer but it freze03:11
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psykprobably a scratch in the cd03:11
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BluesKajif i remember correctly i installed *.run file with guidance of the software driver source site with instructins that are particular to that software driver03:12
Nicknamei have a dual boot system03:12
Nicknameno03:12
intelikeythat does assume that it has shell script code at the beginning...     which it probably does.  but chmoding it and ./file.run   will work even if it doesn't03:12
psykmaybe its a bad cd03:12
psyktry another cd03:12
psykor another cd03:12
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Nicknamedoes there any way to install from command prompt03:12
Nicknamenot a cd problem03:13
Nicknamei try different cds03:13
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dwidmannNickname: try the alternate cd03:13
intelikeyNickname alternate CD03:13
intelikey!alternate03:13
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.03:13
Nicknamei tried03:13
dwidmannOdd that it would freeze03:14
Nicknameok then03:14
Nicknamethats wht i have the live cd03:14
dwidmannI'm assuming that you ran "check disk for errors" at the menu?03:14
dwidmann(just to be safe, that is)03:14
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Nicknamei dont think there is any problem in the cd03:15
dwidmannthinking and knowing - two different terms with two different meanings03:15
Nicknamei know03:15
Nickname;-)03:15
Nicknamethis is the 20th time i tried03:15
shivI have 2 audio cards one onboard and 1 audigy. How do I tell mixer to make audigy default everytime it boots?03:16
dwidmannLast time I went through that many cds, I ended up replacing my burner :\03:16
Nicknamesee you guys03:16
intelikey<Nickname> thats wht i have the live cd <<<<    live CD  !=  alternate03:16
dwidmannshiv: you could probably blacklist the driver for the onboard sound03:17
shivhow do I do that03:17
dwidmannLets see here, I do believe it involves adding a line to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file03:18
BluesKajor change the peripherals settings in the BIOS03:18
intelikeywhy not just go into the kcontrol sound setting  and tell kde to use the card you want....03:18
dwidmannthe line reads like "blacklist [insert driver name here] "03:18
dwidmannex: blacklist intel8x003:18
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intelikeyBluesKaj bios probably wont affect that.03:19
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BluesKajit worked for me intelikey03:19
intelikeyBluesKaj it might.  but linux doesn't pay very much attention to bios...03:19
dwidmannit doesn't always have a choice03:20
dwidmannif you disable devices, not much linux can do about it ;)03:20
shivlet me try the kcontrol again. I have done it before. Id defaults back to the onboard when I boot03:20
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shivintelikey: In kcontrol in sounds hardware its not giving me any option to choose audigy03:23
intelikey<dwidmann> if you disable devices, not much linux can do about it ;) <<<   ah i beg to differ.  i disable all disk drives but the boot disk...03:23
intelikeydwidmann and my running system is not on the boot disk...03:24
intelikeyonly one example.  there are many.03:24
intelikeyshiv doesn't let you slect the device ?03:25
BluesKajaudigy drivers for linux perhaps?03:25
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dwidmannintelikey: odd, when I disable devices, linux can't access it ..... not the same for you?03:26
intelikeyno03:26
shivintelikey: its listed in kmixer as audigy but its not located in hardware section in kcontrol03:26
dwidmannAt any rate, I still think the easy way would be to blacklist the module for the onboard sound ...03:26
intelikeyshiv aconfig   ?03:27
intelikeyseems i remember seeing crimsun using that command to switch cards...03:28
intelikeyaconf[tab-key]     i may not know the name of the command.  but if you find it man it03:28
Admiral_Chicagoman -k searches all man pages for keywords03:29
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intelikeyapropos03:30
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shivlet me restart I used the blacklist thing03:32
krupsi'm having issues playing some cds.  it's works for some, but not others.  ideas on how to troubleshoot?  i can rip them on a windows box - just don't like to.03:32
intelikeyserver side spam !!!03:32
BluesKajshiv, perhaps hardware recognition does require the presence of the right drivers , so it may be listed , but still won't work03:32
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BluesKajsorry doesn't require the right drivers03:32
shivdwidmann: Do I need to just write blacklist intel8x0 or should I write the whole name after intel82....03:32
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shivBluesKaj: It works fine03:33
shivBluesKaj: It works fine, all I need to do is select every time it boots and relogin03:33
intelikeyshiv lsmod | grep snd03:33
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dwidmannThat'll work, if that's the driver for the onboard sound anyhow03:34
dwidmannrun lsmod | grep snd03:35
Slynderdale!nessus03:35
ubotunessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB03:35
dwidmannif intel8x0 is in the list, then it's the one03:35
BluesKajoops :)03:36
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shivdwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5867/03:36
shivdwidmann: I think it is03:36
shivlet me reboot and see03:36
intelikey snd_intel8x003:37
intelikeyyes that's your card driver03:37
shivbrb03:37
intelikeysnd_ac97*  is also card drivers03:37
BluesKajwell , I used to have 2 sound cards on this pc and I was advised by the mfg to disable the onboard one in the BIOS , even with linux03:38
SlynderdaleAnyone here use GAIM beta 6 and is it stable?03:38
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ichsanWhat do u mean by stable?03:38
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ichsanI had used GAIM but the file transfer is not reliable03:39
SlynderdaleHmm, are there any other alternatives?03:40
XVampireXichsan: Wait for Jingle support03:40
XVampireXOr use Skype for file transfer03:40
ichsanWhat do you usually use for? Yahoo or just jabber?03:40
intelikeyi heard someone mention this pre-alpha software and, i was wondering if it's rock solid server ready stable ????03:40
BluesKajIM that works well on ubuntu is aMSN , doesn't crash if that's what is meant by "stabe"03:40
XVampireXintelikey: What?03:40
BluesKajstable03:40
XVampireXichsan: Me?03:40
Slynderdaleichsan: Yahoo and MSN03:41
XVampireXAh03:41
jeremieHi everyone.  I'm setting up Kubuntu, well repairing it, on a friend's laptop.  I keep getting error 13 when I try to set up his XP as a choice in Grub.  Is it possible that someone here knows what this is about?03:41
ichsanwait ...03:41
intelikeystable and alpha/beta  don't gerenally go in the same breath...03:41
samiam010203you could try and reinstall grub03:41
SlynderdaleWell, I'm currently using Gaim Beta 3 and by stable, I mean doesn't crah every few minutes03:41
intelikeyjeremie wrong address for the partition03:42
jeremieI reinstalled Kubuntu, and all works fine that way, I suspect he wrecked something of the windows boot process, but I have no clue about that :(03:42
jeremieahh?03:42
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XVampireXPeople if you want good file transfers, use skype03:42
jeremieintelikey: I thought I had it right, first partition on only one disk, so hd0,003:43
jeremieI agree with XVampireX, Skype rules at file transfer03:43
intelikeyjeremie that's normally what error 13 means.  it can be a missing fs as well.03:43
SlynderdaleHmm, anyone have any reccomendations for software that doesn't come with (K)Ubuntu by default?03:43
XVampireXjeremie: but Jingle will blow skype :D03:43
HymnToLifeSlynderdale, software to do what ?03:44
intelikeyjeremie literally  grub error 13 == "i can't read the <supply by-words to suit self> thing.03:45
ichsanI'm currently using jabber protocol03:45
ichsanwith jabbin as the messenger03:45
SlynderdaleHymnToLife: Hmm, basicly general software that makes your expierance with Linux better03:45
ichsanIt's really reliable03:45
ichsanpeer 2 peer03:45
BluesKajjeremie, how did you partition the drive ...before install or during Kubuntu install ?03:45
matdonhi03:45
jeremieintelikey: Yes, I remember a message about "not a suitable executable"03:45
matdonhow can I get kubuntu to see my usb mass storage device?03:46
jeremieHe gave it to me already bugged.  XP is on teh first partition, and therest was free, so I used it for swap and /03:46
HymnToLifematdon, plug it in03:46
HymnToLifenothing else should be needed03:46
intelikeyjeremie on the outside chance that the partition number is wrong     sudo fdisk -l03:46
ichsanWhen Taiwan is down again, it won't has effect on my network03:46
matdonthat doesn't work03:46
HymnToLifewhat does it do instead of working ?03:46
matdonnothing03:47
HymnToLife"not working"03:47
jeremiein fdisk i gives me that it;'s /dev/hda103:47
HymnToLifeokaaaaaaaay03:47
jeremieHPFS/NTFS03:47
matdonit doesn't show up under /dev03:47
HymnToLifematdon, type media:/ in konqueror's address bar03:47
intelikeythat should be (hd0,0)  check  cat /boot/grub/device*03:47
HymnToLifedoes it appear in there ?03:47
BluesKajHPFS is the rescue partitionfor HP 's XP03:48
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BluesKajI had one03:48
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matdonno03:49
jeremieintelikey: hdo: /dev/hda03:49
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jeremiehd003:49
intelikeyk then i sujest that the fs may well be hosed.03:50
matdoncould it be a problem invovling udev?03:50
jeremieintelikey: That's what I suspect.  And he didn;t supply me with a Windows CD, so I'm done I gues. :(03:50
intelikeymatdon it could.   unplug and replug the device and then do  dmesg    in a konsole.03:51
ctwHi! Does anybody know approximately when the 1st beta (or next alpha?) of Feisty Fawn will come out?03:51
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BluesKajjeremie, what about supergrub disk or Ultimate boot Disk03:51
greywolfhello03:51
matdonyeah it doesn't change dmesg output at all03:51
jeremieBluesKaj: Thanks.. It is a Compaq laptop, so I guess HP too03:51
intelikeyjeremie heh unless you want to blank that partition and add the empty space to the linux system   :)03:51
jeremieI wisj :)03:52
jeremiewish03:52
BluesKajthey are supposed to work03:52
jeremieI even hate this keyboard..03:52
jeremie:)03:52
intelikey:)03:52
jeremieBluesKaj: Those are repair tools?03:52
BluesKajoh hangon , did it come with an XP rescue disk , jeremie03:52
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ichsandoes anyone know how to format ntfs in linux?03:52
jeremieprobably that the rescue is on HD only03:52
shivdwidmann: It still recognised the onboard intel03:53
greywolfI came here last night to get some help for installing Kubuntu, but nothing I tried worked, so I went onto the ubuntu forums and asked there, and got some more feedback, but I'm too impatient to wait for another reply because I want to use Kubuntu now :P03:53
intelikeyichsan you don't.03:53
greywolfif someone could read the thread and help me out, that would be most appreciated03:53
shivdwidmann: Do I write blacklist intel8x or blacklist snd_intel8x?03:53
dwidmannblacklist intel8x003:53
greywolfit's at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36110903:53
dwidmannerm03:53
BluesKajjeremie, yes the rescue disk boots to the rescue partition on HP stuff03:53
dwidmannblacklist snd_intel8x003:53
shivok03:53
shivwait03:53
dwidmannafterwards - run sudo update-modules03:54
dwidmannI thimk03:54
intelikeyichsan ntfs is some Micro$oft propritary junk that they don't want anyone to know anything about...03:54
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jeremieBluesKaj: I don;t see a resce disk in his bag03:54
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BluesKajbummer03:54
intelikeydwidmann the module name uses - not _ iirc03:54
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BluesKajwhat disk do you have there ?03:55
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dwidmannlooks like a _ to me03:55
dwidmannsnd_intel8x0           42024  203:55
dwidmannfresh from lsmod03:55
intelikeydwidmann that's not the name of the module per'se  ls /lib/modules/*/*/sound/03:56
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inteliwaspi am trying to mount a folder over nfs, but it is giving me this error "mount: block device 192.168.0.14:/podcasts is write-protected, mounting read-only"03:56
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dwidmannalso, I see other modules listed in the blacklist file, such as snd_intel8x0m ...... using an underscore03:57
intelikeyok try it.03:57
greywolfwhen one of you guys is finished helping someone, could you help me?03:58
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intelikeyi guess the - char is case insensitive03:58
intelikeyin that usage03:58
dwidmannintelikey: possibly03:58
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ctwgreywolf: have you tried any other live CDs?03:59
greywolfI'm downloading the alternate version now03:59
greywolfbut it'll be another 2 hours :(03:59
ctwyikes03:59
HymnToLifegreywolf, it'll be worth it :)03:59
greywolfheh03:59
ctwovernight, also try downloading Knoppix04:00
HymnToLifeat least you will get you Ubuntu installed04:00
inteliwaspany sugestions?04:00
HymnToLifethen you can go about installing drivers for your card04:00
sancho21Oh yeah, why I can't use hear any sound from my game while hearing to amarok? This is one of the most I hate in Linux. Sound collision04:00
greywolfwell, even when I try to use the text-based install with the normal 6.10 live cd, it gives me errors04:00
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dwidmannsancho21: make sure both the game is using alsa and it shouldn't be a problem04:00
greywolfwhat's the difference between the alternate and normal versions?04:00
HymnToLifethe alternate CD is test-based04:01
ctwif you get graphics in Knoppix, you know it works and you could copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file04:01
dwidmannA lot of games, especially commercial games, tend to use OSS04:01
HymnToLifeext*04:01
sancho21dwidman, how to make sure of that04:01
sancho21?04:01
greywolfwell, when I boot Kubuntu from the cd and try to install it, it leads me to a command line, not an installation GUI04:01
intelikeyinteliwasp does the user in question have permission locally ?   i see that that is a local network address so i assume you can check at the other end04:01
dwidmannthe alternate also only requires far less memory, and it's a bit more flexible (RAID/LVM installs, etc)04:01
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dwidmannsancho21: guess it would depend on the program04:01
HymnToLifegreywolf, you could also edit your xorg.conf from your live cd to use the never-failing-but-poor-quality vesa drive04:02
HymnToLifer*04:02
HymnToLifejust so you can get your ubntu installed04:02
greywolfso I've tried using startx to install it, but that fails as well04:02
ctwgeywolf: that's why I suggested trying knoppix04:02
inteliwaspintelikey: i was using sudo to mount04:02
greywolfI did that, too :(04:02
greywolfI used "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:02
greywolfand reconfigured the drivers to use vesa04:02
sancho21There is no sound system manager that manage all resource using the sound device then?04:03
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DaskreechRight04:03
Daskreech So I need to rotate the page on a pdf04:03
Daskreech any suggestions?04:03
greywolfbut it gave me an error about not being able to find the video card04:03
sancho21dwidmann, So you have the same problem too? I suppose04:03
HymnToLifethat's weird, the vesa driver is supposed to work on _all_ videocards04:04
greywolffor reference, I have an ATI Radeon 9250 (yeah, now I find out that ATI sux)04:04
HymnToLifewell, recent ones, at least04:04
dwidmannsancho21: yeah, I have to kill anything accessing /dev/dsp before starting quake404:04
greywolfwill taking out that radeon card help?04:04
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jeremieI'm off to try Supergrub disk, thanks guys04:04
ctwgreywolf:http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html04:04
HymnToLifeif you can replace it with an nvidia, yes04:04
greywolfbecause I'm at the point where I just want to install and get it over wtih04:04
ctwthey have pretty good hardware detection04:04
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ctwcopy the xorg.conf file from knoppix if it works04:05
HymnToLifegreywolf, the alternate will let you do that, then you can go about installing drivers for your radeon04:05
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HymnToLifectw, not necessarily04:05
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greywolfctw: but I don't even have ubuntu installed yet - does that matter?04:06
HymnToLifedrivers in different distros are not always the same04:06
greywolfHymn: ok I guess I just have to be patient then04:06
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greywolfI think I'm eventually gonna make the switch from windows to linux, but the only thing that's holding me back are my games and photoshop04:06
intelikeygreywolf yes. install from the alternate install CD  then  install the vidio driver04:07
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ctwif all else fails, Knoppix is worth a try ... you'd copy the xorg.conf file on a usb stick and then copy it on the HD when you want to install Kubuntu04:07
user__hey anyone using lm-sensors here?  got a quick question04:07
x04ty29erjust ask04:07
dwidmanngreywolf ... well, you could dual boot04:07
greywolfI don't have a usb stick :(04:07
juano_greywolf: games are a bit  of an issue yes, except photoshop, well there is GIMP, an alternative which is good04:07
greywolfyeah, I am04:07
x04ty29erif anyone has any idea what you are talking about04:07
x04ty29erthey will answer04:07
dwidmannuse linux as the main, then reboot to play games or whatnot04:07
user__after installing it, how do i open it??04:08
x04ty29erthats what i do04:08
x04ty29erdo you know where yoou installed it to?04:08
HymnToLifeuser__, http://www.lm-sensors.org04:08
user__naw, straight off adept04:08
juano_greywolf: but i dont know, probably a dual boot should be best for games and photoshop04:08
HymnToLifeall you need to know is there :)04:08
x04ty29erlol04:08
greywolfjuano_: yeah, I'm dual booting to see what ubuntu is like, so perhaps I'll just stick with that04:08
x04ty29erprobably04:08
intelikeyctw installing knoppix would work  but using xorg.conf from a knoppix cd to get x running on *buntu is doubtfull at best04:08
x04ty29erby the way04:09
juano_greywolf: yes, i dual boot also, there are things in windows which i like, Nero, etc.04:09
x04ty29ereven adept manager tells you what it installs to where04:09
x04ty29eryou just have to click on the package and click details04:09
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juano_greywolf: you can install Photoshop via crossover office, though i dont like it much , its not the same you know04:09
x04ty29erit doesnt work as well at all04:10
dwidmannor codeweavers, or depending on the version, or wine ......  or in a virtual machine, plenty of possibilities04:10
greywolfyeah04:10
ctwgreywolf: if you don't need the ATI card and can take it out (like a previous post suggests) you'd most likely get it running with the on board graphics chip04:10
greywolfok I guess that'll be my only option if this alternate cd fails04:11
juano_x04ty29er: yea, i think crossover office isnt as good as it seems04:11
greywolfI don't want to try it now because my download's at 32%04:11
ludomatichi all! I have a question about the info panel that appear from the taskbar for some seconds04:11
ludomaticanyone know how to call it from command line?04:12
ludomaticI have a loooong make to do and would like to do something like $make && alert("finished")04:12
Daskreechgreywolf: Welcome to the linux realm :)04:12
ctwgreywolf: try the alternate first ... if all else fails you could always consider trying another distribution, too ... I like Kubuntu a lot, but maybe another distribution is better for your hardware ... many years ago I had some good experiences with SuSE04:13
ctwhttp://www.opensuse.org/04:13
intelikeyhmmmm something eat 4m of ram...04:13
x04ty29erjuano_: yea I tried to run some stuff off crossover and the performance was barely acceptable04:13
ctwI used it in the pre-Novell days, so my experience with it is a bit dated04:13
x04ty29erespecially comapred to its windows counterpart04:13
greywolfok, I'll do that, then, if Kubuntu doesn't work04:14
ctwbut again, if you don't need the ATI card, get rid of it first04:14
ctwthat should solve your problems04:14
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x04ty29erkeep the card until you figure out how to config it right04:14
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x04ty29erwell04:14
x04ty29ernot in your computer04:15
ctwor sell it and get an nvidia card instead04:15
greywolfheh04:15
juancamilohi all04:15
DaskreechAnyone have a solution?04:15
ctwshould make your live easier04:15
juano_x04ty29er: yes, one of my main issues is my motorola rokr, which has itunes, i installed itunes but never made the pod sync its itunes04:15
greywolfI'll probably be getting a new computer sometime next year04:15
x04ty29erjuano_: amarok has a feature that allows it to sync ipods04:16
greywolfI grabbed this one for $200 at best buy in the after-thanksgiving sale04:16
x04ty29erand other devices04:16
ctwit's always good to check the components for linux compatability first04:16
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ctwfor desktops it's usually not much of an issue04:16
intelikeyDaskreech to what?04:16
DaskreechI need to rotate the page on a pdf04:16
ctwbut especially for laptops it can save some headache later04:16
juancamiloi have a problem with my video card, a nvidia gforce 6600 go, when i try to enable the driver it does not work...anyone??04:17
greywolfsounds crappy, but it's actually pretty decent: 80 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 2.66 GHz, 256K bus speed04:17
intelikeyoh..  !i04:17
greywolfwell, that looks crappy, too, but suffice to say it runs just fine :P04:17
ctwjuancamilo: do you have the linux-restricted-modules installed?04:17
juano_x04ty29er: yes, ive tried , amarok , gtkpod, no luck :(04:17
D4rklyhi i just downloaded rtspd2.0 but its source. the source contains configure and makefile.in how can i build this app04:17
intelikey256K bus speed ?04:17
user__anyone know a good sensors program? lm doesnt seem to good04:18
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greywolfwell I don't like laptops much - it's really hard to play ADoM and other roguelikes that way04:18
ludomaticok, I've used04:18
ludomatic$ make ; kdialog --msgbox "finished: $?"04:18
BluesKajgreywolf, seems quite sufficient to run kubuntu...games are a diff story04:18
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juancamiloyes i have, them04:18
Daskreechuser__: lmsensors I think04:19
intelikeyksensor ?04:19
juano_juancamilo: change Driver "nv" to "nvidia"04:19
ctwwhat did you do to enable the driver, what's the error message04:19
D4rklyhow do i run configure and makefile to build rtspd ?04:19
juano_juancamilo: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:19
intelikeyksensors ?04:19
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juancamilook, ill try that04:19
greywolfblueskaj: yeah, I've been researching linux a bit and it seems that's the main (only?) problem04:19
juancamilothanks04:19
user__yah except lm sensors, and ktemperature04:19
Daskreech!info ksensors04:19
ubotuksensors: lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-11ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 912 kB04:19
juano_juancamilo: that helps with rendering04:20
user__anything better?04:20
user__hmmmmmmmmm04:20
user__let me check that out04:20
greywolfctw: it spouts a message saying it can't find the video card (either I guess I have the wrong PCI address in the config, or it's something different), and this: (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS04:21
Daskreechintelikey: Any suggestions04:21
intelikeyDaskreech no sorry.  pdf is something i avoid like the plague04:22
Daskreechcool04:22
Daskreechanyone else have any solutions :)04:22
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user__hmmm aight tried the lm with ksensor front end, its aight, but no temperature displays?04:23
user__wats up with that?04:23
greywolfctw: oh, I forgot to say that I typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and that took me to a hardware configuration wizard; I used it to pick the VESA driver and set the PCI bus location of the video card - I skipped everything else04:23
ctwgerywolf: what exactly did you do?04:24
intelikeygreywolf i have seen vidio cards that wont support vesa  try reconfiguring xorg to use your card rather than vesa04:24
user__anyone?04:24
D4rklycan someone help me compile rtspd2.0 (rtsp streaming server)04:24
ctwyeah, try another driver04:25
greywolfintelikey: how would I do that? It gives me a list of 30ish drivers04:25
greywolftry it 30 different times? :P04:25
ctwlook for ATI or radeon04:25
ctwand try different ones04:25
ctwalso try anything that looks generic like "frame buffer"04:25
intelikeygreywolf switch to another console and issue# lshw | less04:25
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greywolfswitch to another console? I don't have kubuntu installed yet...04:26
intelikeygreywolf in the list of hardware find your vidio card and select the driver aproprate for it.04:26
greywolfctw: ok I'll do that04:26
greywolfintelikey: if I knew the appropriate driver, I would have done that already ;)04:27
user__annnyone?  no one monitors their cpu temps here!?04:27
BluesKajlinux doesn't run hot04:27
intelikeygreywolf like i said switch to another console and look it up.04:27
user__linux doesnt run hot? .... dude... heat is app/load based...04:27
x04ty29eractually04:28
greywolfintelikey: you'll have to forgive me - I don't know what you mean... >_>04:28
x04ty29errunning the same average load04:28
BluesKajno kidding ,...gamer huh ?04:28
x04ty29erI think that linux does run slightly cooler04:28
x04ty29erfor me at least04:28
intelikeygreywolf alt+f#  where # is any number from 1 to 604:28
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Branded_Atomksysguard has a temp sensor interface04:28
ctwgreywolf: what happens when you press CTRL+SHIFT+F!04:28
ctwF104:28
MenaWhat is the latest ver of kernel04:28
user__Branded_Atom: where?04:28
greywolfctw: I haven't done that before04:29
Branded_Atomkmenu, system, ksysguard04:29
ctwitntelikey: I think it's ctrl+shift rather than alt04:29
ctwgerywolf: try it04:29
intelikeyctw not for consoles04:29
greywolfI'll do it when the alternate cd downloads >_>04:29
ctwthat syoud give you a different console04:29
x04ty29ertty?04:29
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user__Branded_Atom: im looking at it now, but no temp display04:29
ctwah04:29
ctwright04:29
user__Branded_Atom: do i need to add it?04:29
Mena What is the latest ver of kernel04:30
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ctwI forgot that X wasn't up yet04:30
greywolfso, to look up my video card in the other console, what do I say?04:30
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Branded_Atomsensor browser\04:30
ctwpress alt+F1 (or F2 ...)04:30
x04ty29erMena: Look online04:30
greywolf(and find the appropriate driver)04:30
intelikeyctw i'm in tty1 as we speek,  and play in console all the time...04:30
Branded_Atomlocal host, acpi04:30
x04ty29erlol04:30
Menax04ty29er, where04:30
ctwand type lshw | less04:30
greywolfah oki04:31
Branded_Atomthermal zone.. just keep expanding, you'll see it04:31
ctwintelikey: sorry, I stand corrected04:31
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greywolf*ok04:31
jtmoneyif uname -a says "i686", that is the 32-bit version of kubuntu, right?04:31
intelikeyright04:31
jtmoneywhat the hell, i still can't see the mythtv and ivtv-source packages04:31
Branded_Atomuser__: you get it going?04:31
Mena!kernel04:31
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:31
x04ty29erMena: google linux kernel04:31
user__Branded_Atom: i dont have acpi04:31
Menax04ty29er, ok04:31
Menax04ty29er, :)04:32
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Branded_Atomyou see sensor browser?04:32
Branded_Atomlocal host..04:32
greywolfonly an hour left for the alternate iso download! :)04:32
shiv_dwidmann: The blacklist thing finally worked, Thanks :)04:32
user__yup04:32
intelikeyMena better yet goto http://kernel.org04:32
user__im on local host04:32
deathnotewhat's the difference between the dvd and cd version of edgy?04:32
user__browsing thru cpu 0, 1 and such04:32
ctwgerywolf: are you currently booted up in Windows?04:32
Menaintelikey, okay04:32
greywolfctw: yeah04:32
jtmoneydeathnote: dvd has more packages04:32
dwidmannshiv: cool04:33
Branded_Atomand logfiles, and memory?04:33
intelikeydeathnote initall install   no differance.04:33
deathnotemeans i don't need to apt-get update ?04:33
shiv_dwidmann: I remember something in suse where I had interchanged 0 and 1 with both the cards somewhere and it had worked too. Is there something like that in (k)ubuntu?04:33
user__yup04:33
greywolfwhenever I try to boot and install from the cd, it leads me to a command line04:33
Branded_Atomand there should be an acpi bit in that level04:33
Eeyore-Jrfeodra had a utility that upon boot scanned for new hardware and if it found it, installed it.  does kubuntu do this as well, or is there an easy way to add new hardware ?04:33
ctwgreywolf: it's also a good idea to find other local linux users who might be able to help you get started: http://www.linux.org/groups/04:34
intelikeygreywolf yes that's called a "console"04:34
user__logfiles only has daemon, kern and messages04:34
greywolfheh, yeah, I figured that04:34
greywolfI'm just used to the windows term04:34
greywolfctw: ok, thanks04:34
deathnotemore packages means less download from net?04:34
Branded_Atomuser, it should be in the same level as diskthroughput and memory, just one level under localhost04:35
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Branded_Atomif not, i can't help you anymore, its a hardware/software interaction issue04:35
user__crap... its an issue then... DAMN!04:35
user__lol04:35
user__thanks anyways thouh man04:35
deathnotehow do i get out of the kubuntu loading screen during boot up to see what's loading?04:36
Branded_Atomnot saying it IS an issue, but it seems that way to my noobishness04:36
ctwgerywolf: if you look up your graphics card in the windows hardware info, what does it say?04:36
MinatakuAh... 2.6.20 is compiling as we speak04:36
MinatakuI love configuring a new kernel04:37
intelikeygreywolf by default *buntu linux will have 6 login consoles active when not in single user mode (rescue)    you switch between them with alt+f#      if / when  in xorg the consoles are still active but xorg requires you to add the ctrl key to break out of X   ctrl+alt+f#    and xorg is running in tty7 by default.    console == tty04:37
deathnote!nvidia04:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:37
DaskreechDoes anyone have a good way of rotating a page on a PDF?04:37
ctwDaskreech: what exactly do you want to do?04:37
Admiral_ChicagoDaskreech: xpdf is what i use04:38
ctwdo you want to read or create a PDF?04:38
ctwis the PDF only one page long?04:38
DaskreechI want to turn the page sideways so  ican read it without my chiropracter04:38
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MinatakuDaskreech: Lift monitor, rotate along Z axis 90 degrees, place monitor back on holding surface04:38
DaskreechNo it's 9 pages but they are all sidways04:38
greywolfctw: in Device Manager, it says under Display Adapters, "RADEON 9250" and then "RADEON 9250 - Secondary"04:38
MinatakuSorry, just joking XD04:38
ctwDAskreech there's a comand in acroread that can do that easily04:38
DaskreechMinataku: I think You mean X :)04:38
user__another question, how do you set konqueror to a certain view mode?  ie tree view permanantly04:38
intelikeyDaskreech i have a thought.     "pring the file"04:38
block-guyis there a way to get Reg xchat installed vs this horrid xchat-gnome04:39
Daskreech!info acroread04:39
ubotuacroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)04:39
intelikeyprint04:39
MinatakuDaskreech: No, Z04:39
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MinatakuX would put the screen facing up or down04:39
DaskreechMinataku: In that case you probably mean around the Z axis04:39
SpAwNhello all i installed apache and then uninstalled it and i accidently erase the /etc/apahe/folder ...i know need apache and went to install it and got this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/43704:39
Daskreechnot along04:39
MinatakuDepending on which way you rotate04:39
juancamilohi all04:39
greywolfunder properties, it says it's working properly and it's in PCI Slot 2 (PCI bus 1, device 1, function 0)04:39
user__how do you set konqueror to a certain view mode?  ie tree view permanantly04:39
juancamilojuano_ i did that already but it does not seem to be working04:40
MinatakuDaskreech: I dunno, math isn't my thing04:40
ctwgreywolf:what's the exact name / model number04:40
MinatakuSorry X304:40
Daskreech:-)04:40
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Branded_Atomuser, settings, configue view profiles..04:40
juancamilojuano_ how can i test it?04:40
ctwDaskreech: so what's the problem with acroread?04:40
user__Branded_Atom: thanks man, let me give it a go04:40
Daskreechctw: Don't know didn't install it04:41
Branded_Atomdon't forget that file management != web browsing, you may need to be specific04:41
deathnotehi just done an installation via dvd for edgy.. i noticed in sources.list there's a line for the CD .. should i remove before doing update?04:41
DaskreechI know okular is rotate able04:41
DaskreechKpdf isn't04:41
DaskreechI guess acroread is04:41
Branded_Atomits not something i have done, but it seems straightfoward04:41
ctwDaskreech: open it in kghostview04:41
intelikeydeathnote no need to remove it.  but you can if you don't want to use the dvd as a source04:41
ctwthat can rotate a page04:41
Daskreechctw: Beautiful thanks04:42
SpAwNhow can i reinsatll apache when im getting this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/437  ...is there a command that will reconfigure it?04:42
DaskreechHa ha!!!04:43
deathnotewhat's the difference if i use dvd as source? means i won't need to download from net?04:43
Daskreech it works04:43
Branded_Atomspawn, can you do a complete uninstall?04:43
Branded_Atomand try reinstalling?04:43
user__Branded_Atom: yahhhhhhhhh it doestn seem to be so starightforward04:43
user__lol04:44
SpAwNBranded_Atom, it is.....i uninstalled then like a idiot i erased the /etc/apache folder04:44
user__that brought me to a menu i dont think its the right thin04:44
SpAwNBranded_Atom, that is the reinstall04:44
Branded_Atomthere IS a difference between uninstalling and complete uninstalling04:44
SpAwNBranded_Atom, oh......how do i compleatly uninstall04:44
Branded_Atomsorry user__, i've never tried to save a view mode04:45
user__crap, anyone else ever completely c hanged their view mode permanently?04:45
user__its cool though man, thanks for the input04:45
Branded_Atomspawn, use a graphical manger like adept_installer or synaptic and use the option "completely install"04:45
SpAwNBranded_Atom, Oh ok thanks. ill try04:46
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intelikeySpAwN or apt-get remove -P apache04:46
intelikey--purge04:47
intelikeymaybe -P is only dpkg04:47
deathnoteno......update doesn't update from the cd...04:47
DaskreechIt can04:48
intelikeyupdate only updates the package database04:48
user__nvm, read up on it, found out how04:48
Branded_Atomcan you share user?04:48
Branded_Atomfor the future04:48
user__lol, well you were right.  konqueror will not auto save how you last left it after closing.  make the changes your want, ie view mode, then go to "save view profile v"web browsing"" and it will save those settings for the next time you open konqueror04:49
user__you have to close it after saving those settings, and then it will work from then on out04:50
intelikeyyes or you can set it up to save the current on each exit....04:50
deathnotehow to speed up my update?????04:50
Branded_Atomhehe yea, i figured you saw the "save" option04:50
user__true, but for me i just need one view mode04:51
deathnoteapt-get update is taking long time as usual..and i thought using dvd to install is faster04:51
user__lol, well i didnt want to mess it up, so i decided to look it up.04:51
Branded_Atomgood choice anyway ;)04:52
intelikeydeathnote as i said  apt-get update   only updates the package database.   the database for the dvd doesn't need updated.... only the ones on the web.04:52
Branded_Atomupdate shouldn't take that long, maybe 90 seconds to 120 seconds04:53
Branded_Atomupgrade may take more04:53
Branded_Atomespecially if its a first upgrade04:53
intelikeyupgrade will take much longer.04:53
deathnotei need more than that for update..04:53
deathnotebut downloading at 110kb/s average04:53
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Branded_Atomand it doesn't make much sense to update a dvd package database04:54
deathnotewonder why i got so much things to update04:54
Branded_Atomhave you added many repositories?04:54
deathnotesorry i think its upgrade04:54
juancamilohelp....i'm trying to open kwrite form the konsole just typing kwrite, but:04:54
juancamiloXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:54
juancamiloXlib: No protocol specified04:54
juancamilokwrite: cannot connect to X server :0.04:54
deathnotei just..remove those # in my sources.list04:55
deathnoteand added multiverse behind those which doesn't have04:55
deathnotethat's all04:55
juancamiloanyone?04:55
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Branded_Atomdeathnote: so it was upgade afterall?04:56
Branded_Atomand not update?04:56
intelikeyjuancamilo yeah.  use kdesu  not sudo   but that will probably still error out.    so do this.     xhost +LOCAL: ;kdesu kwrite04:56
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Branded_Atomthat could take a bit especially if its a first upgrade or you haven't done one in a while04:56
intelikeyor maybe you didn't sudo that to start with...04:57
Branded_Atombut do them regularly and they should be just 30 seconds or so04:57
juancamilointelikey: it still error out04:57
juancamilo???04:57
deathnoteyea upgrade..04:57
juancamiloagain, can not conec to x server....04:57
deathnoteits the first upgrade..04:57
deathnotefirst time installing from dvd..and i see no difference in speed04:57
Branded_Atomspeed of what?04:58
deathnotereduction in installation time04:58
Branded_Atomupgrades are always downloaded and installed, so i don't know what you're comparing to04:58
intelikeyjuancamilo xhost | grep LOCAL04:59
Branded_Atomare you trying to say you're upgrading from a dvd?04:59
intelikeyjuancamilo does that show anything ?04:59
juancamiloXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:59
juancamiloXlib: No protocol specified04:59
juancamiloxhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"04:59
deathnoteyah upgrades are downloaded05:00
deathnotebut installation is still the same05:00
deathnotewhat's the diff?05:00
deathnotebetween dvd n cd05:00
juancamilointelikey??05:00
Branded_Atomso what are you comparing the speed to? i'm confused05:00
deathnotemore packages, so? speed is the same05:00
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intelikeyjuancamilo wrong display address ?05:01
Branded_Atombut the dvd isn't coming into play right now, as i understand it05:01
juancamilowhat do u mean?05:01
intelikeyjuancamilo did you use  kmenu > switch users > start new session ?05:01
juancamilointelikey. yes05:02
deathnotei'm comparing the speed of dvd and cd of course05:02
deathnotewhat's so confusing?05:02
intelikeythen it's probably not :0*  it's probably :22*05:02
Branded_Atombut you're not using the cd or the dvd to upgrade05:02
deathnoteeither one i need to upgrade and either one is taking same amount of time05:03
deathnoteand i thougth dvd have more packages than cd05:03
deathnotewhatever05:03
Branded_Atombut the packages are at the same release05:03
intelikeyjuancamilo i don't play with X much,  you'll need to findout the exact display address and export DISPLAY=':22'    or what ever it is.05:03
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Branded_Atomits probably me being stupid, just ignore mee05:03
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juancamilointelikey, sorry, i don't know how to do that..05:04
intelikeyjuancamilo  export DISPLAY=':22'  ;xhost05:05
intelikeyjuancamilo if that works,   is  LOCAL:  in one of the lines of output ?05:06
juancamiloxhost:  unable to open display ":22"05:06
intelikeythen it's not 2205:06
intelikey:)05:06
intelikeythere is a command that will tell you what it is....   but i don't recall it off the top of my head05:07
juancamilo:(05:07
intelikeyps ax | grep ' :'05:07
intelikeysee what that says05:08
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juancamilogrep command not found05:09
NightBirdo_O05:09
NightBirdwow..05:09
NightBirdyou don't have grep...05:09
intelikeyme too night05:09
juancamilo???05:09
intelikeyps ax | grep ' :'05:09
juancamilo 4070 tty7     Ss+    1:12 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-GKEo8B05:10
juancamilo 4984 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep  :05:10
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intelikeyhmm not listed there05:10
juancamilo???05:11
intelikeyidk.  someone else might know how to display the display info05:11
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BluesKajnite all, sack time for old guys05:12
intelikeyoh   display05:12
intelikeyduh05:12
intelikeyno i guess not.05:12
juancamilointelikey...thanks a lot anyways05:13
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SlynderdaleI just installed and selected a proprietary Nvidia TNT2 Pro driver and now my resolution was chaged to 800x600 when it was 1024 before05:14
SlynderdaleWhen I try to go change it, it says 800x600 is the highest05:14
juancamilo...how can i list the display info???05:14
juancamiloanyone?05:15
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newest007hey there my system just crashed and rebooted from the splash screen, i checked the KSystemLog, and it gave me this: Internal error: memory corruption detected,  how do i go about fixing this?05:18
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dasickishey i was wondering how do you remove a program you build from source?05:22
x04ty29ernewest007: what were you doing when it crashed05:23
intelikeydasickis you used make install ?05:23
dasickisyeah05:23
newest007i was just browsing the net05:23
gumpoI just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and tried to run EasyUbuntu, but after i choose my options and press okay, nothing happens. Anyone know a workaround other then installing everything manually?05:23
intelikeymake uninstall05:23
x04ty29erum05:23
dasickisreally tahnks05:23
intelikeyand hope they provided fro that05:23
newest007and looking at the Sysinfo system info05:23
x04ty29ermore specifically.........?05:23
x04ty29erhm05:23
dasickisbecause i was trying to install aterm from source05:24
x04ty29erjoin channel rx435 and post the error report05:24
dasickisbut i didn't look clearly (stupid of me) and it just screwed up my sound system05:24
dasickisi'm not sure how05:24
dasickisthe Afterstep Terminal Emulator05:24
SlynderdaleI just installed and selected a proprietary Nvidia TNT2 Pro driver and now my resolution was changed to 800x600 when it was 1024 before05:25
SlynderdaleWhen I try to go change it, it says 800x600 is the highest05:25
juancamilowhen i try to open kwrite it says: cannot connect to x server...05:25
juancamilohow can i fix that?05:25
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Dr_willishow are you trying to run it?05:26
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juancamilokwrite in the konsole05:27
intelikeyjuancamilo you will have to tell it what the address is to the xserver you are in.   seeing that you opened another session it inheireted the settings from the first session and it can't connect to it...  so export the correct address and it will work.05:27
intelikeyand no i don't know what command to issue to find out the address05:27
jbruckmandoes anyone know of a linux editor that works about the same as frontpage(but of course better)05:27
intelikeyjuancamilo you can ask in #ubuntu also05:28
[R] eaperi need help with my ati card05:28
dasickiswell as I said before my sound was totally f*d by the Afterstep emulator is there a way to figure out what's wrong?05:28
intelikeyDr_willis did you know how to find out what the x server address is ?    :0  is default  but this is a second session... ?05:29
SlynderdaleANyone here know how I can get a resolution higher then 800x600?05:29
juancamilointelikey, i look for it, thanks again05:29
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intelikeystdin could tell ya if he was here05:30
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willy_alguien sabe como configurar mi camara para el amsn05:30
x04ty29erSlynderdale: make sure you have the right drivers05:30
willy_solo que no puedo05:30
willy_porfa05:30
Branded_Atom!es05:30
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:30
x04ty29erand go to channel rx435 and post your xorg.conf05:31
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Dr_willisintelikey,  Hmm... grep for running X sessions?05:32
Slynderdalex04ty29er: I have the Nvidia Legacy drivers for the TNT2 as stated on the Ubuntu site05:32
SlynderdaleI'll post my xorg.conf file05:32
intelikeyDr_willis i tried that first  only thing showing is X :005:32
Dr_willisintelikey,  the  2nd one should be :1 i guess.. and so on.. but not sure how to tell from a X session exactly what it is.. except perhaps checking the  DISPLAY variable.05:32
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Dr_willisive rarely ran more then 1 session05:32
x04ty29erSlynderdale:05:32
x04ty29erlol05:32
[R] eaperi need help with my ati card, http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2438/instantnea3kx2.jpg05:32
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x04ty29ersry i forgot about that05:33
x04ty29erpost the part under05:33
x04ty29erone05:33
x04ty29ersec05:33
intelikeyDr_willis wasn't :1 on this system  and i don't think it is on juancamilo's either05:33
NightBirdand what do you need help with?05:33
Dr_willis[R] eaper,  and the problem with your ati x1600 is?05:33
[R] eaperthe screen errors05:33
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intelikeyjuancamilo do    export DISPLAY=':1' ;xhost05:34
[R] eapersystem crash on glxgears05:34
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intelikeyjust to make sure it's not :105:34
NightBirddoes glxinfo tell you anything?05:34
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NightBirdlike... does it crash? or does it say you are using the ATI proprietary drivers? or..05:35
[R] eaperati radeon x1600, direct renderiong: yes, etc etc etc05:35
willy_#kubuntu-es05:35
intelikeyNightBird you may be onto something there.05:35
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jtmoneyokay, i installed the i386 version of 6.10 on my amd64... even after enabling all the repositories and fetching updates (and apt-get update), i STILL cannot see ivtv-source or mythtv, though i know they are there... what does this have to do with my 64-bit machine? i can see these packages from my 32-bit laptop05:35
intelikeyjuancamilo     glxinfo | grep -i 'name of display'05:36
jtmoneyE: Couldn't find package ivtv-source == what i get when i type sudo apt-get install ivtv-source05:36
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jtmoneyThe drawbacks are that Ubuntu, with APT (the package manager for Ubuntu), currently does not support BiArch, which means you likely won't be able to install and run 32bit packages on your AMD64 install. This is a problem for users who wish to use Flash, w32 codecs, and WINE (for example), as they are only available for 32-bit. There are possible methods of getting it running, but they involve creating a chroot (see DebootstrapChroot),05:38
jtmoneyfor example. ... what if i installed the 32-bit version on my amd64? this shouldn't affect me, right?05:38
intelikey!chroot05:39
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box05:39
intelikeyyou can install in there05:39
jtmoneybut if i installed the i386 iso on my amd64, i shouldn't have to do that, right?05:39
[R] eaperok, take a look now http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg05:39
intelikeyright05:39
jtmoneywell, i still cannot see the ivtv-source and mythtv packages from this machine05:40
jtmoneythe cd is labelled "i386"05:40
jtmoneyi don't know what else i can do05:40
intelikeyi*86 should work on k8 as well as it would on a comperable k705:40
juancamilointelikey, is not the 1 and with the other i got this: : error: unable to open display (null)05:41
jtmoneyk, let me explain here... i could not see certain packages (namely, ivtv-source and mythtv) on my amd64 with 64-bit install05:41
jtmoneyi can see them on my 32-bit lappy05:41
intelikeydisplay (null) ???05:41
jtmoneyso i reinstalled the 32-bit kubuntu os on my amd64 and enabled all the repositories and i still can't see them05:41
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intelikeyjuancamilo you are not in a console (tty) are you ?05:41
willy_allguien de uds me puede ayudar05:42
willy_solo que me urge mucho05:42
willy_me pueden ayudar05:42
willy_con mi web cam05:42
willy_porfa05:42
jtmoney!spanish05:42
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:42
[R] eaper<NightBird>: look http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg05:42
intelikeyjtmoney you updated the databases after you edited the sources.list ?05:42
jtmoneyi ran sudo apt-get update05:43
jtmoneyand "fetch updates" from adept05:43
jtmoneyis there something else i'm supposed to do?05:43
juancamilointelikey im in a konsole...why?05:43
intelikeyjtmoney also you can have ubotu search for packages /msg ubotu find whatever05:43
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[R] eaperanyone can help me with this?? http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg05:44
intelikeyjuancamilo cause display (null) is the error message i get from glxinfo in a console05:44
jtmoneyyeah, it found ivtv-source... problem is, it's not appearing in my adept05:44
jtmoneyi know it exists, i can see it on my 32-bit box05:44
NightBird[R] eaper, disable the composite extension05:44
NightBirdrestart the xserver05:44
NightBirdthat looks very similar to what happens when I use the proprietary driver+composites05:44
juancamilo???....05:45
willy_juancamilo me podes ayudar porfa05:45
juancamilocon que?05:45
[R] eaperok, i will try that05:45
NightBird/etc/X11/xorg.conf:  Add a section called Extensions with the option Composite set to false05:45
willy_esque fijate que no se ni como componer mi camara webcam aka en kubuntu05:45
willy_para usarla en los chat porque a veces me sirve05:46
SpAwNwhat is the default spot apache uses?... /var/www/ doesnt seem to be it....i had the default index.html in there and erased it and its still displaying on the site05:46
willy_y eso me esta obligando a usar el msn live en windows05:46
willy_no dejen que eso pase porfa05:46
juancamiloque dice cuando la conectas?05:46
willy_pues me conecto con el amsn05:46
NightBirdSpAwN, that depends on where you tell it to look at...05:46
NightBirdthere should be something in the apache configuration files... make sure it's pointing at that directory05:47
juancamilointelikey, i didn't understood whats wrong?05:47
SpAwNNightBird, hmm allright....i think i need to redo the conf05:47
dasickishey can someone help me configure suspend05:47
juancamilowilly, ????cuando conectas la camara no la reconoce solo el kubuntu?05:47
NightBirddasickis, sure can't.... mine wasn't working, then I upgraded to the new kernel and everything works now... :P05:47
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dasickisto feisty?05:48
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NightBird[R] eaper, any better?05:48
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willy_pues le doy que me configure05:48
NightBirddasickis, no, I mean the actual linux kernel05:48
juancamilointelikey...im just frustated05:49
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willy_y dice que me encuetro detras de un muro de fuego de un ruteador05:49
willy_y no se en realidad como activarla05:49
casehola , alguien sabe como instalar uira?05:49
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willy_ya me meti al synaptic e instale webcam y webcamd05:49
willy_pero no nada05:49
juancamilomiraste en la documentacion de kubuntu05:49
willy_no se que onda05:50
SlynderdaleANyone here know how I can get a resolution higher then 800x600?05:50
willy_no donde puedo ver tenes algun link para por lo menos guiarme05:50
dasickisNightBird: to what kernel did you update to?05:51
intelikeyjuancamilo i stand under you with full synphony.       does xvinfo display any information ?05:51
dasickisNightBird: because I tried to update the kernel but when I boot up it just failed05:51
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NightBirdsad day05:52
NightBird[R] eaper, it any better?05:52
[R] eaperno :(05:52
dasickisi used the http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu05:52
[R] eaperim on vesa05:52
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dasickistutorial05:52
juancamilowilly, www.kubuntu.org/documentation05:52
NightBirddasickis, ah, I just installed from the repository, so I don't know how to help you for having compiled the kernel itself..05:52
juancamiloo depronto esto, http://vegdave.wordpress.com/tag/technology/os/linux/ubuntu/05:53
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dasickiswell its back to normal now05:53
dasickisok05:53
juancamilointelikey, unable to open display ;105:53
willy_alguien que me ayude porfqa05:53
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vltHello. I'm trying to compile a kernel module on Dapper running 2.6.15-28-k7. I installed linux-source and -headers but get a lot of compiler errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5870/   ---   Any idea?05:53
dasickisNightBird: I have 2.6.17-11-generic05:54
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intelikeyjuancamilo hit ctrl+alt+f7 and try it.   if it lists two displays  ctrl+alt+f8 to get back to the one you are in now.05:54
SlynderdaleXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".05:54
SlynderdaleXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".05:54
SlynderdaleSegmentation fault05:54
SlynderdaleWhat does that mean?05:54
NightBird[R] eaper, you disabled composites in the xorg.conf file, right?05:55
[R] eaperyes05:55
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NightBirdhm... no idea then...05:55
[R] eaper        Option      "Composite" "0"05:55
NightBirder... is that in it's own section labled "Extensions"?05:56
juancamilointelikey, that was weird05:56
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NightBirdand also, I don't know about 0, but I know "false" disabled it for me..05:56
intelikeywhat did it call the displays juancamilo ?05:56
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SlynderdaleCan someone take a look at my xorg.conf and see if they can figure out why I'm stuck at only a 800x600 resolution and get GLX errors when I open some applications? http://pastebin.ca/35661605:56
[R] eaper"false" did not work05:56
NightBirdand it's own section?05:57
[R] eaperyes, its on is own section05:57
NightBirdany messages in dmesg?05:57
NightBirdor in the xorg log file?05:57
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[R] eaperSection "Extensions"05:57
[R] eaper Option      "Composite" "0"05:57
[R] eaperEndSection05:57
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intelikeyjuancamilo ?05:58
NightBirdalright, that looks fine...05:58
juancamilointellkey, there are no displays listed05:59
juancamilo???05:59
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dasickisNightBird: I get this error when I try sudo s2disk "suspend: Could not stat the resume device file"05:59
ForgeAuswhat package has kcmdisplay?05:59
intelikeyjuancamilo did you run    glxinfo | grep -i 'display name'      in the other session ?05:59
willy_alguien sabe como hacerce usuario ubuntu o kubuntu06:00
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intelikeyerrr oops  NOT name.   just      glxinfo | grep -i 'display'06:00
intelikeyelse you get nothing.06:01
intelikeyand 'name of display' short changes you.06:01
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juancamilowhen ctrl alt f8, i can't execute anything06:02
juancamiloin ctrl alt f8 it says: Error: unable to open display (null)06:03
juancamilowilly, que clase de usuario06:03
juancamilowilly_???06:04
intelikeyjuancamilo that's where the konsole is running,   right ?      open a konsole in tty7 (ctrl+alt+f7)   and type in               glxinfo | grep -i 'display'06:04
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willy_para tener usuario linux06:05
willy_no solo en mi compu sino poder entrar a las paginas y todo eso en internet06:06
willy_aparte que quiero ser usuario linux y tener un numero de registro06:06
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intelikeyget the information for the second display  (i.e. NOT :0 but the other one)   and switch back to tty8 (ctrl+alt+f8)     export DISPLAY=':?'   where ? it the correct info.     then you should be able to run commands in the konsole in tty8....06:06
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intelikeythat's where all that started and ends.06:06
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juancamiloim in tt7 and in tt8 i can not run anything...06:07
intelikeynothing in 7 either ?06:07
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intelikeyglxinfo doesn't work in tty7 ?06:08
juancamiloi can only work in tt7 in tt8 nothing happens06:08
intelikeyxhost    doesn't work in tty7 ?06:08
draikWhat do I need for quicktime? I have installed all the packages on my friend's computer that I have and still no quicktime video06:08
intelikeyexactly.  so read what i wrote and try it.  ^06:08
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intelikeyyour first xsession is in tty7   the second one in tty8    third...    but xorg has a problem updating the environment for the konsole when you open a new xsession    when you get this to work one time.  you can pretty much remember that you have to export the correct DISPLAY=  then it will all work...06:11
NightBird.... for some reason I smell turkey...06:11
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intelikeyi'm not a developer so i don't know why xorg has trubble with that.    also i don't use a gui very much so it's low priority for me.06:12
juancamilointelikey, so tt8 does not work for me, i tryed tt6 and i got the same error than before06:13
ForgeAusintellikey how do you manage without a gui? you must have a good memory!06:13
intelikeyjuancamilo wait.   you tried tty6  ???    tty6 would be a console.    i did ask you specificly if you meant console or konsole      console != konsole06:14
intelikeydid i miss something ?06:15
intelikeyForgeAus idk.   i seem to have forgotten enough to fill a small librarry06:15
ForgeAuslol06:16
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juancamilointelikey. im now in tt6 using kde desktop and inside it a konsole, i tryed tt6 which is a console....06:17
juancamilott8 does not work at all06:17
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juancamiloi can type anything there but nothing happends06:18
intelikeyjuancamilo you do remember answering whether or not you had went to     kmenu > switch users > start new session      and you said "yes... "  ^06:18
intelikeyso all this time i have been working on the wrong end of this thing.... ?06:19
intelikeyclose the konsole  and open a new one   then  type     glxinfo    see if it works.06:19
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dasickisis there a way to get my tv tuner to work with ubuntu using ndiswrapper?06:21
dasickisI know that ndiswrapper is for wireless cards but just wondering06:21
juancamilointelikey, it listed xlib ...but everything is 006:22
intelikeyand   kwrite    will start now ?06:22
juancamiloit does...thanks a lot06:23
juancamilosorry, for taking so long...you rock06:23
intelikeyyou are quite welcome.06:24
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surgycan someone be kind enough to help me compile a program?06:25
Dr_willisany details on the issue surgy ?06:25
surgydr_willis: i have no idea where to start :)06:25
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surgy!compile06:27
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:27
surgythere we go06:27
surgythank you dr_willis06:27
Dr_willisinstall build-essential also06:27
juancamilointelikey...i know...it doesn't feel good at all when you waste so much time in just a little thing...thanks again06:27
Dr_willis!info build-essential06:27
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB06:27
Dr_willisso you dont want 'help' you want 'hand-held' :)06:28
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intelikeyjuancamilo we'll try to do better next time.    communication is the key to good support.06:28
intelikeyit's also the key to good relations06:29
juancamilointelikey...have a good night06:29
intelikeyyou too06:29
juancamilobye bye everyone06:29
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draikWhat do I need for quicktime? I have installed all the packages on my friend's computer that I have and still no quicktime video06:33
intelikeywhy do gui configs default to 9 point fonts... i know this is just a 17" screen but 9 point is too tiny to see...06:33
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rayluintelikey, did you get my memo?06:34
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intelikeyyes i did.06:34
rayluwooz hooz.06:34
intelikeythanks for passing that on.06:34
surgyconfigure: error: Please verify your Qt devel install!           <<<< this means i need to get the package qt-devel right?06:34
intelikeyprolly  qt4-dev-tools  ?06:36
surgyill try that06:36
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intelikeysurgy i'm not sure on that one.06:37
surgythat wasnt it06:37
surgy>> Unable to locate your Qt includes...06:37
surgyconfigure: error: Please verify your Qt devel install!06:37
intelikeycould be    libqt3-mt-dev06:37
intelikey i really don't know for sure.06:37
surgyso does every source file contain a configure script? becuase personally mine dont :)06:38
intelikeynormally   apt-cache search "<key phrase from error>"    will show you what you need...06:38
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surgyintelikey ok06:39
noiesmohey all, had a hard drive failure, well my ext3 is now ext2 my data appears ok but I would like to convert to ext3 again is this possible without lossing any data06:39
surgythat last package you gave me made it go a little further06:39
surgynow i get06:39
surgyerror: Something wicked happened while trying to validate your Qt installation!!! Please verify your libraries..06:39
Dr_willisnoiesmo,  you can use tunefs (i recall) to convert from ext2 to 306:40
Dr_willisor was it tune2fs?06:40
noiesmoDr_willis, k will read up on tune2fs/tunefs06:40
surgyintelikey: apt-cache search "<qt>" didnt show anything06:40
Dr_willisits tune2fs06:40
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Dr_willis-j     Add  an  ext3  journal  to  the  filesystem.06:41
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kaatilis firefox 2.0.0.1 is out for kubuntu yet?06:41
intelikeysurgy not <>    that generally means <translate from here to here>    unless it's a real redirrect.06:41
noiesmoDr_willis, yeah tune2fs -j /dev/hdb106:41
kaatili am on dapper btw.06:41
intelikeysurgy like this#   apt-cache search  'Qt devel' | grep 'Qt devel'06:42
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intelikeyyou can omit the pipe for more results06:42
surgyintelikey: from there website "Make sure you have qt-3.0.5-17.i386.rpm and qt-devel-3.0.5-17.i386.rpm installed."06:42
intelikeysurgy like this#   apt-cache search 'Qt devel'06:42
surgywill that package be in our repos?06:43
intelikeysurgy qt-devel   is not a package in *buntu06:43
intelikey!find qt-devel06:43
ubotuPackage/file qt-devel does not exist in edgy06:43
kaatil!find firefox06:43
ubotuFound: mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-in, mozilla-firefox-locale-ca (and 57 others)06:43
Dr_willisit has some odd funky name06:43
surgyqt devel does?06:44
intelikeylibqt3-mt-dev06:44
Dr_willisi recall some asking that in here the other day.. it wasent a logical name.06:44
Dr_willis:)06:44
Dr_willissee06:44
Dr_willisi got NO idea where -mt- comes from06:44
Dr_willis!find libqt06:44
ubotuFound: libqt-perl, libqt3-compat-headers, libqt3-headers, libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev (and 26 others)06:44
surgythats kindof retarded06:44
Dr_willis!info libqt3-mt06:45
ubotulibqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3064 kB, installed size 8712 kB06:45
Dr_willisMulti-threaded I guess06:45
intelikeyyeah threaded06:45
Dr_willis!info libqt306:45
ubotuPackage libqt3 does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas06:45
Dr_willis!info libqt3-dev06:45
ubotuPackage libqt3-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas06:45
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Dr_willis!find libqt306:45
ubotuFound: libqt3-compat-headers, libqt3-headers, libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev, libqt3-i18n (and 6 others)06:45
surgybut obviously thats not the one i need06:45
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Dr_willis:)06:45
surgyi sudo apt-get install [that package]  and it 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:46
intelikeylol06:46
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surgybut im still getting errors about it in configure06:46
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Dr_willisits possible the ./configure script needs some optuons to tell it where to look06:46
Dr_williswhat are you compiling?06:46
surgyshoweq06:46
Dr_willisgot a url?06:46
surgyhold on06:47
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surgyhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/seq/   and http://www.showeq.net06:47
intelikeyapt-cache search qt | grep '^qt'       is kinda revealing...06:48
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Dr_willisShowEQ or SEQ for short is a program designed to decode the EverQuest data stream06:49
Dr_willisICK..06:49
Dr_willisheh heh06:49
surgylol06:49
surgyintelikey: i got tons of stuff after typing  apt-cache search qt | grep '^qt'06:49
intelikeyqt3-apps-dev - Qt3 Developer applications development files   <<< might help.06:49
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surgyintelikey trying now06:50
surgyqt3-apps-dev is already the newest version.06:51
surgyE: Couldn't find package Qt306:51
surgylol this is why i hate compiling, but seq is only offered as source06:51
intelikeyhmmm06:52
Jucatolibqt3-mt-dev06:52
Jucato!info libqt3-mt-dev06:52
ubotulibqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB06:52
intelikeyJucato we covered that long ago ^06:52
Dr_willisIm thinking tha programs ./configure is brain dead..06:52
Dr_willisive compiled dozens of apps so i got most all the qt stuff installed06:52
intelikeyDr_willis i'll drink to that.06:52
Jucatook, if you say so06:52
surgydr_willis and your still getting the same error?06:53
surgyi allready have libqt3-mt-dev jucato06:53
Dr_willis>> Unable to locate your Qt includes...06:53
Dr_willisconfigure: error: Please verify your Qt devel install!06:53
intelikey<intelikey> could be    libqt3-mt-dev06:53
intelikeyJucato ^06:53
Jucatoreally looks like a configure script problem06:53
surgyyea i got past that now im at "06:54
surgyconfigure: WARNING: Qt documenation not installed?!06:54
surgyconfigure: error: Something wicked happened while trying to validate your Qt installation!!! Please verify your libraries...06:54
Jucatoqt3-doc?06:54
surgyshould i ignore that?06:54
Dr_williscould install kde-dev :)06:54
intelikeyqt3-doc - Qt3 API documentation06:55
surgydr_willis: whats that?06:55
Jucatowarnings could be ignored... but errors no...06:55
intelikeyqt4-doc - Qt 4 API documentation06:55
Jucato!kde-devel06:55
ubotukde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB06:55
Jucatohm...06:55
intelikeysurgy i did mention   qt4-dev-tools - Qt 4 development tools06:55
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intelikeydidnt i06:56
Dr_willislooks like a large   meta-package that installs a LOT of the kde dev files06:56
it-stuffhallo, guys..06:56
Dr_willisMy system is so messed up.. i cant even isntall a lot of the stuff now..06:56
surgyintelikey yes and i have them06:56
intelikeyk06:56
Dr_willisgot kde 3.6.6 i think that messed some things06:56
SlynderdaleWhats the command to mount a windows NTFS drive?06:56
surgyman i wished i could get this to compile06:56
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Admiral_ChicagoSlynderdale: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /mntpoint iirc06:57
Dr_willissurgy,  so you can cheat at EQ?06:57
Dr_willis:)06:57
surgyslynderdale mount -106:57
intelikeymount /dev/device  /mount/point06:57
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume06:57
surgymount -a06:57
intelikey!ntfs | Slynderdale06:57
ubotuSlynderdale: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:57
surgydr_willis: so i can cheat on my own server on eq :)06:57
intelikey!ntfs-3g | Slynderdale06:57
ubotuSlynderdale: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)06:57
intelikey!fuse | Slynderdale06:58
ubotuSlynderdale: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse06:58
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surgythis sucks06:58
Dr_willissurgy,  the fact you run your own EQ server   ..... no.. i wont even GO there....06:58
Dr_willis:)06:58
intelikeyJucato i thought that 2.6.10 did...06:58
Dr_willisThe Ubuntu technical board has decided to forgo the inclusion of a compositing window manager and proprietary video drivers in the default installation of the upcoming Ubuntu release.06:59
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Admiral_Chicagowe are on 2.6.2006:59
Dr_willisHmm...06:59
Dr_willisbummer06:59
Jucatointelikey: built in? afaik no06:59
JucatoDr_willis: yay! :P06:59
surgydr_willis: lol purely reverse enginneered software... if thats what your talking about, no copywritten anything.....06:59
Admiral_Chicagothey can handle it. but by default, no06:59
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JucatoDr_willis: see sabdfl's blog for more accurate details06:59
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draikWhere can I get help for viewing quicktime?06:59
Dr_willissurgy,  tell that to the makers of that free battle.net alternative.. that got killed off..06:59
Jucatodraik!!! damn I don't know what else to do for you :(07:00
it-stuffsomebody help me, how to connect printer in the network using kubuntu, pls..?07:00
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draikHey Jucato07:00
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surgydr_willis: lol anyways, seq is obviously free....... and open source, im not asking for help on "grey areas"07:00
Dr_willissurgy,  looks like its badly written also07:00
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surgydr_willis: im not that smart...... to be able to make sense out of it07:01
mem_I have sound!!!! :D07:01
SlynderdaleI tried mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r and it said I didn't have permission to read the drive07:01
Admiral_Chicagomem_: sweet!07:01
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intelikeyDr_willis it doesn't by any chance have an install script does it ?07:01
Dr_willisSlynderdale,  use 'sudo mount .....'07:01
Admiral_Chicagomem_: i couldn't try to help you, i was in class but I saw your problem07:01
surgydr_willis, i just want it to configure and make :(07:01
Dr_willisintelikey,  i looked at the install docs... and decided to not try much more with it.07:01
mem_Admiral_Chicago: All I had to do was uncheck external amplifier... >.<07:01
Dr_willissurgy,  find the windows version and use wine :)07:02
Admiral_Chicagoah, an easy fix07:02
intelikeyDr_willis heh07:02
mem_Admiral_Chicago: Hey that's OK :). I just blew out my ear drums though lol07:02
surgydr_willis i did it reuires ms .net framwork so i get mono and still no luck no errors or anything07:02
Admiral_Chicagoi bet it was the best time you ever had blowing out your ear drums07:02
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ForgeAusI think there is a way of installing .net framework into wine... but I havn't got it working yet07:03
mem_Admiral_Chicago: hehe one of the most recent, but definitely worth it after the last few days.07:03
intelikeywhat's ".net framework" ?07:03
ForgeAusits a set of libraries basically07:04
ForgeAusmono is a *nix implementation of it..07:04
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mem_Admiral_Chicago: I ended up having to reinstall kubuntu (coz I'm noobish and thats the only way I know to get rid of it) due to numerous installations of ALSA drivers07:04
intelikeyhmmm07:04
ForgeAusbasically provides a CLR (common language runtime) environment for apps07:04
Admiral_Chicagoalsa is very nice though07:04
surgyforgeaus: but it doesnt let myseq run07:04
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ForgeAusI don't know anything about myseq...07:05
mem_Yep. I've installed it scratch so many times now I think I could do it from memory. Which is useless, since it comes with kubuntu packages anyway07:05
ForgeAusyou would probably need .net framework for windows installed into your wine to use it that way07:05
ForgeAusthere was some work on a mono bridge for wine07:05
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Dr_willis!find webstart07:07
ForgeAuswell the forum for it is useless07:07
ubotuPackage/file webstart does not exist in edgy07:07
ForgeAusneed to register to od anything!07:07
deathnote!mfs07:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:07
deathnote!mdf07:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:07
Dr_willisHmm.. i found a game that uses 'java web start'  jnlp file... i think ive had these working befor on linux...07:08
deathnote!mount07:08
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter07:08
deathnoteanyone knows how to mount a .mdf file?07:08
Dr_willisbut dont seem to have the java webstart any more in my menus.. (may of been on a different machine/disrto)07:08
Dr_willisdeathnote,  as far as i knwo - you cant. it has extra info in it.07:08
Dr_willisdeathnote,  could try renaming it to .iso and try the loop stuff.07:08
Dr_willis!iso07:09
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn07:09
Slynderdaleroot@john-desktop:~# gksudo gedit /etc/fstab07:09
SlynderdaleXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server07:09
SlynderdaleXlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key07:09
deathnotek07:09
SlynderdaleWhat would cause that?07:09
Admiral_Chicagonothing07:09
ForgeAushmmm myseq is based on ShowEQ for linux?07:09
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ForgeAuswhy not get showeq?07:09
Admiral_Chicagowell actually, opening from the command line will do it07:09
surgynope.... no luck07:10
surgylooks like no seq for me :(07:10
surgyforgeaus: showeq wont compile07:10
ForgeAusouch.. that sounds nasty07:10
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ForgeAuslooks like its geared towards rpm/ebuild packages anyway07:11
deathnoteso i rename which file to iso? mdf or mds ?07:11
ForgeAuscan you do any of that kinda stuff with kasbar?07:11
ForgeAusand or ksysguard07:12
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SlynderdaleDOes this look right for fstab? /dev/hda1   /media/windows     ntfs   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   007:13
deathnote!kiso07:13
ubotukiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 343 kB, installed size 1048 kB07:13
Dr_willisdeathnote,  i would guess the larger file07:14
ForgeAusif it was a slackware .tgz file you could probably just copy the binaries in the right place and it'd likely work!...07:14
ForgeAusbut then even for slackware source packages can be a problem07:15
deathnotei tried using kiso.. but running kiso it will give an error "Could not find mime type, application/octet-stream"07:15
Jucatosurgy: any luck finding .deb packages for showeq instead?07:15
Dr_willisdeathnote, try 'file whatever.mds' and see what it thinks it is. you may NOT be able to convert the thing with any linux tools07:15
surgyjucato: nope07:16
deathnotesigh.. i try to mount it but couldn't07:16
deathnoteboth files07:16
doc_hi: kdesu chmod (??user) /media/290/           <--------- help, I can't  viw my HD USB !!07:16
deathnotethought it would be best to convert to iso..07:16
Dr_willisdeathnote,  that may not even be doable..07:16
Dr_willisthats a special drive/disk/image format for copy protected cd/dvds theres a lot of extra info in there.07:16
Dr_willisim not even sure how well documented the format is.07:17
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Dr_willissince i know of 2 tools that use it.07:17
deathnoteok this is a warcraft.mdf/mds file..its a very small file07:17
deathnotesuppose to fake a warcraft cd07:17
deathnoteso that my game can run07:17
doc_hi: kdesu chmod (single user) /media/290/           <--------- help, I can't  view my HD USB !! only root07:17
Dr_willisyou mean warcraft i, ii or iii?07:17
deathnotewc3..07:17
Dr_willisdeathnote,  just go get a no-cd-crack for it.07:18
deathnotei have the disc..07:18
deathnoteno cd crack wouldn't allow me to play battlenet..sigh07:18
deathnotei have the cd07:18
Dr_willisi hate cd copy protection.07:18
Dr_willisand i really HATE battlenet.07:18
Dr_willis:)07:18
deathnotei just don't wanna put the disc in all the time07:18
Dr_willisyou are trying to play this under linxu with wine?07:18
deathnoteyup.....its running07:19
surgydeathnote: lol try a better rts?07:19
Dr_willisdd the original cd to an .iso file perhaps..07:19
surgycedega will run WC307:19
deathnotewhat's rts07:20
Dr_willishe dosent want to use the CD for the copy protection.. is the issue07:20
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surgyreal time strategy07:20
deathnotewill the iso be big? after using dd07:20
surgy?07:20
surgywhy dont you want to use the cd?07:20
Dr_willisit sill be the size of the cd. :)07:20
deathnotei wnat those..real small iso files which can fake07:20
intelikeydeathnote the size of the disk07:20
deathnotehehe..because the cd is not mine.....hahaha07:20
Dr_willisdeathnote,  that uses some special features of the daemontools. or alcohol120 program.07:20
doc_hi: kdesu chmod (single user) /media/290/           <--------- help, I can't  view my HD USB !! only root07:21
Dr_willisjust converting them to a .iso will NOT get you around the copy protection07:21
surgydeathnote: rip to iso then mount  with virtual cdrom its easy07:21
Dr_williseven a .iso may not pass the copy protection checks07:21
deathnotesigh.....07:21
intelikeydoc_ what fs ?07:21
Dr_willisnow you know why i dont do much windows-gaming any more07:21
deathnoteanyway to get daemontool running?07:21
Dr_willisdeathnote,  doubtfull07:22
intelikeydoc_ you can't chmod M$ krap.07:22
deathnotemaking a copy of the disc need a pattern file also..i think07:22
intelikeydoc_ M$ crap has no permissions bit07:22
surgydeathnote: your best bet whould be to either one: forget about battle.net and use a no cd patch, or two: go pay 15$ and get a copy07:22
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Dr_willis'the mounting of a ntfs/vfat filesystem - requires the use of the umask, and other options to 'fake' the linux file permissions and ownership information'07:23
intelikeydoc_ man mount   and scroll down to   FILESYSTEM SPECIFIC MOUNT OPTIONS   and read07:23
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume07:23
Dr_willishas lots of nice examples as well07:23
deathnote!deamon07:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about deamon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:23
deathnote!daemontool07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about daemontool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
raylulol, deathnote07:24
Dr_willis!google07:24
surgywhy do you guys even use the konsole to mount and manage hard drives? especially ntfs ones?07:24
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux07:24
deathnote!alcohol12007:24
raylusurgy, what do you use?07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alcohol120 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
rayludeathnote, there is something called cdemu, I believe, that will do it07:24
Dr_willissurgy,  because i can do it in less time then it takes you to ask that question.07:24
deathnotei know.....!! use wine to run daemon tool07:24
raylubut I can't get it to mount it as a cd.07:24
intelikeydoc_ and more specifically in "man mount"   Mount options for fat07:24
deathnoteand use daemon tool to mount mdf file07:24
rayludeathnote, ...no. =\07:24
deathnotehahaha07:24
SlynderdaleHow do you place a recycle bin icon on the desktop?07:24
surgyraylu: there is a gui for it in kdemenu >> system settings >> filesystems and disks07:25
Dr_willisusing wine to run dawmon tools? that would be... interesting.07:25
raylusurgy, oh. Console is easier.07:25
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Dr_willisSlynderdale,  i so perfer it on the panel now.. that i even try to set up other disrtos that way.07:25
surgydr_willis: but can you mount an ipod unmount your ntfs drive and listen to amarok all in one konsole? with an eq server running at 512mb ram? in one konsole?07:25
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surgyyeah console is easier07:26
intelikey<surgy> why do you guys even use the konsole to mount and manage hard drives? especially ntfs ones?...   i don't .   i use a console for everything07:26
Dr_willissurgy,  yes you can.07:26
surgybut comming from windows guis are nice07:26
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surgyintelikey: the i use a console for eveything was you speaking right?07:26
Dr_williswhichis easyer to tell someone how to do somthing.. typing a command in the console.. or describing how to click down 3 menu levels, and a few tabs.. then finding a 'advanced button'07:26
intelikeyyes07:27
surgyok07:27
surgyagreed dr_willis07:27
Dr_willisComming from Windows - i find windows often   has some VERY badly done  'standard ways of doing things' :)07:27
surgylol also agreed07:27
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surgybut its habbit07:27
Dr_willislike Kitten Huffing?07:28
Dr_willis:)07:28
surgyhuh?07:28
surgywtf is kitten huffing? lol whatever beastiality your into..... i dont want it07:28
Dr_willishttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Kitten_Huffing07:28
surgyj/k07:28
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surgyoh my god lmao07:29
surgy"Kitten huffing is a controversial practice that has recently been growing as a popular and healthy alternative to street drugs"07:29
deathnote!iso07:30
surgylol wtf is wrong with people07:30
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn07:30
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intelikeyso dosbox has a binarry that is the whole 'dos' system ?   it doesn't seem to actually boot anything07:30
surgy"It is a general rule of thumb that anyone who huffs more then 3 kittens a day is an addict. Veteran huffers often caution against huffing more than a couple kittens per day "07:30
surgyok im done07:30
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Dr_willisIn Soviet Russia, Kitten huff you!07:31
surgyintelikey: dosbox isnt meant as an actual os i think07:31
Dr_willisintelikey,  it should have came with a freedos setup to boot07:31
surgyintelikey: its ment more for an emulator for games i think07:31
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Dr_willisyep - i play dos games with it all the time07:32
Dr_willisWarlords I and II07:32
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Dr_willisrun dosbox  - i get a window and a dos shell and a Z:\ prompt07:33
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surgyyeah i dont like how dosbox is put together07:33
surgynot my style07:33
surgyyou have to "mount" everything07:34
Dr_willisegads! the humanity of it all!07:34
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Agent_bobDr_willis dpkg -L dosbox   shows one executable07:34
surgydr_willis: are you a fan of ultima?07:34
Dr_willisactually i set mine up (under gnome) not kde, to where i could right click on a game dir.. and run the game07:34
Agent_bobno libs   just some docs07:34
Dr_willisaint played ultimata in ages07:34
Dr_willis!find dosbox07:35
ubotuFound: dosbox07:35
Dr_willis:)07:35
surgylol i have an ultima 7 disk i bought a month after it came out07:35
deathnote!iso07:35
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn07:35
Agent_bobit didn't install anything with it as a dep.07:35
ForgeAus!dosbox07:35
ubotudosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB07:35
Agent_bobso i just assumed that it was a standalone07:35
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ForgeAus!dosemu07:36
ubotudosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 958 kB, installed size 2208 kB07:36
Dr_willisit may come with a dos version included.. i may of been using dosemu with freedos.. or perhaps that was qemu07:36
Agent_bobnow dosemu on the other hand does boot a dos system  and you can have it boot anything07:36
Dr_willisi was testing them all out a few months ago07:36
Dr_willisi run 'dosbox' and i get a z:  prompt  i then run the games from.07:36
mem_raylu: I got the sound working after deselecting external amplifier in Kmix07:36
deathnotedamnit.....07:37
deathnote!mdf2iso07:37
ubotumdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB07:37
ForgeAusactually freedos doesn't come *with* either of them its an optional extra download07:37
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raylumem_, CONGRATS!07:38
Agent_bobForgeAus dosemu seems to depend on freedos  ?07:38
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ForgeAusAgent, possibly...07:38
surgydr_willis: a quik question about dosbox...... windows 95 is based on dos right? and it has DX9 support so could you not run DX games through dosbox?07:38
Agent_boberr on  dosemu-freedos07:38
ForgeAussurgy so is win98 by that reasoning07:38
surgyforgeaus: am i wrong?07:39
mem_raylu: :-D thanks07:39
ForgeAuswindows 3.11 is mostly the DOS-based one but windows 98 has an underlying DOS yes...07:39
ForgeAus(95 of course is the same although the dos vers might be different? I'm not certain)07:39
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deathnoteit keeps saying wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0 when i try to mount the mdf file07:39
ForgeAusWindows ME is very strange... I'm sure there is an underlying DOS somewhere its just that you can't use the sys command with it...07:40
deathnotetried iso9660,vfat,ext3 all don't work07:40
Agent_bob95 and 98 both used dos707:40
ForgeAusXP however I'm not even certain if there is a DOS underlying it...07:40
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mem_Can I remove Konqueror and just use Firefox? Do you know if there are any silly dependency issues there?07:40
ForgeAusAgentbob basically yes07:40
surgyforgeaus: no winxp has no dos, it has a dos emulator07:40
ForgeAusbut not dos 6.1107:40
ForgeAusthey had their own built in DOS's07:40
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ForgeAussurgy cmd?07:41
surgyforgeaus: no, compatibility mode07:41
surgyforgeaus: which wasnt a bad idea, they just did it badly07:42
Jasenhello, anyone mind answering a few questions from a linux nub?07:42
surgy!ask07:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:42
Agent_bobheh dosbox man page says that all the built-in command.com commands work plus others.   first one i tried "ver" isn't there  lol07:42
Jasenlol tnx.07:42
ForgeAussurgy I heard they built a complete windows98 subsystem into XP for compatibility reasons07:42
ForgeAuslol Agentbob07:42
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ForgeAusit has mount, which is something DOS doesn't07:43
surgyforgeaus: something like that, it lacks features, and definately lacks the ability to use it very effectivly07:43
Dr_willissurgy,  you could run qemu, or vmware to play windows 95 games.. no dosbox.07:43
surgyforgeaus: as far as i got was with the compatibility tool kit, and it is slow, and weak at everything before ntfs07:43
ForgeAussurgy: agreed my experiences also come to that conclusion07:44
surgydr_willis: i just figured out that the original warcraft is free now....... YEP IM GETTING DOSBOX!07:44
Agent_bobForgeAus yes it has mount.   and i can see why.  but still the very basics of information gathering....07:44
Dr_willisiv4e used dosbox (i thinK) under windowsxp07:44
Jasenhaving trouble with a new install. trying to add my first program (sylpheed email app) got an error stating I needed glib. downloaded glib, did ./configure  (no errors) did make (no errors) did make install got permission denied07:44
Dr_willissurgy,  free? where did ya find that at?07:44
ForgeAusactually Dosbox is awesome under XP!07:44
ForgeAussame under Linux really07:45
Dr_willissurgy,  there was a linux port/game that could use the warcraft data files07:45
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surgydr_willis: sorry, by free i meant shareware free07:45
ForgeAusruns games like Advanced Civilization (the computerized version of the *board* game sid's Civilization was based on)07:45
surgydr_willis: http://www.sss-mag.com/games/index.html#old07:45
Jasenany idea what would cause denial of permission?07:45
ubuntuhi im trying to install kubuntu and im doing manual partition mounting, but it keeps saying no root file system07:46
Dr_willissurgy,  thats just links to the demo it seems07:46
nkRushanyone runnig WoW on kubuntu?07:46
nkRush*running07:46
surgyforgeaus: its amazing how dosbox can outperform a multi million dollar os at backwords compatibility isnt it?07:46
Agent_bobjasen   compiling glib ?07:46
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Jasentrying to yes07:46
surgydr_willis: i know :(07:46
ForgeAushehe :) yeah07:46
Dr_willisnight all.07:47
surgynight07:47
Jasenmake install I assume is compiling yes?07:47
Agent_bobwell sudo make install      but i don't know why you are compiling....07:47
ubuntuhi im trying to install kubuntu and im doing manual partition mounting, but it keeps saying no root file system07:47
deathnotehi, how do i create an iso for my warcraft 3 cd, and will it work properly to run game?07:48
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ForgeAuswell XP was really the first desktop oriented (unlike NT line inc win2000) that required an emulator for backwards compatibility... although the 95/98 gui's didn't run DOS apps well internally...07:48
Agent_bobubuntu   what partition do you have set to mount on  /   ?07:48
surgywarcraft was ported to psp/psx?07:48
ForgeAusMacs required emulation well before XP did07:48
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ubuntuext307:49
ubuntulogical07:49
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Agent_bobset to format it ?07:49
surgyforgeaus: yeah but you whould think if gates wanted his os to be backwords compatible it whould happen, he wants no legaacy support so you have to buy more of his software07:49
Jasenam I doing something wrong? I was following instructions I found... but got the permission denied error message...07:49
Jasenso I must be07:49
ForgeAushmmm so kubuntu can't be installed on fat32?07:50
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ubuntuwont let me chekc the box07:50
ForgeAusI know ext3 is the one its suited to, but I dind't know it was limited only to ext307:50
Agent_bobForgeAus not with out scba gear of some sort07:50
Agent_bobJasen sudo make install07:50
ForgeAusyour right Gates doesn't want to go backwards he wants us to go forwards07:51
ForgeAuscan never be too far forward for him!07:51
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JasenAgent_Bob: Sudo make? what does that mean?07:51
Agent_bobForgeAus it's not limited to only ext3   there are several fs's that linux can live in.   just nothing M$ built has permissions bits07:51
ForgeAuswhats scba? at first I thought you typed scuba!07:51
ForgeAusAgentbob doesn't NTFS have permission bits?07:52
deathnoteis k3b capable of cloning exact cd of my warcraft 3?07:52
Jasennm07:52
Agent_bobno07:52
ForgeAusnot that I recommend NTFS07:52
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ForgeAusso ntfs permissions are something different?07:52
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Jasensudo is like su to root?07:52
Agent_bobForgeAus the u in scuba is "underwater"  i didn't expect water on your disk.07:52
ForgeAusrofl Agent_bob :) nice one07:53
ForgeAusI never really remember having heard what SCUBA stands for then07:53
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Agent_bobForgeAus fire fighters ware scba gear   astronauts ware scba gear07:53
ForgeAus(inf act I wasn't even aware it was an acronym)07:53
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Agent_bobself contained breathing aparatus07:54
ForgeAuswhy not EPG ? environmental protection gear?07:54
ubuntuplz help s1, why wont it let me install?07:54
ubuntukeeps saying No root file system07:54
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ForgeAusubuntu? no idea what boot loader are you using?07:55
Agent_bobit's not protecting the env form the warer  it's protecting the warer from the env ForgeAus07:55
ubuntuim using latest release i think07:56
ForgeAuserm grub or lilo? if its lilo I probably can't help07:56
deathnotehi can anyone teach me how to make an iso out of my warcraft cd???07:56
ForgeAusbut grub, is mostly configurable by its menu.lst file under /boot/grub07:56
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Agent_bobif it's saying no root file system  it's still the partition setup that's hanging it.07:56
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ForgeAusor on reboot use the e key and tweak the references (mostly the numbers in ()'s07:57
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ubuntuso what doesnt it like?07:57
ubuntuthe fact that its logical?07:57
Agent_bobdeathnote dd if=/dev/cdrom of=filename.iso07:57
ForgeAusdoesn't what is it LVM handle logical volumes?07:57
ForgeAusis a logical volume the same as a logical partition?07:58
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ubuntui dont know07:58
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Agent_bobi'm not sure what a "logical partition" is     i first assumed he meant "extended partition"07:59
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ubuntuit says "logical" next to the partition name07:59
ForgeAusno08:00
ForgeAusextended partition is something different08:00
ForgeAusit usually contains other ones08:00
ForgeAushmm, doesn't fdisk have a logical drive thing? I've never used it before tho08:01
surgyare there any good rts games for linux? preferably free?08:01
ForgeAusubuntu is that in QTpart? (the live cd partition program)08:01
ForgeAussurgy definitions of "good" vary from person to person08:01
ubuntuits in install to HD08:02
ubuntufrom live cd08:02
Agent_bobForgeAus the nick would sujest the live CD08:02
ForgeAusyeah QTParted is embedded in the installer08:02
ForgeAusor something like taht08:02
surgyforgeaus: something along the lines of empire earth or age of empires08:02
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Branded_Atomsurgy, check stratagus08:02
ForgeAusempire earth is kewl :)08:02
ForgeAusI love sierra games mostly08:03
ForgeAussince like the time of Kings Quest 3 and Larry 1 :)08:03
ForgeAusof course since then I've backdated tried KQ2 and KQ108:03
ubuntuso nobody knows why its not working08:04
Agent_bobubuntu  one word.   alternate08:04
ubuntualternate what08:04
Agent_bob!alternate08:04
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.08:04
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ForgeAusubuntu I have two theories the logical thing might mean you require LVM but I don't know HOW to do that you might need to google it08:04
surgytribal trouble looks fun08:04
ubuntuwhats LVM?08:04
ForgeAustheory 2 is simply that grub isn't looking in the right place whihc means you just need to fiddle with the hd(#,#) that it boots from08:05
ForgeAusLogical Volume Manager? something like that I guess08:05
Agent_bobthe last sentance of that infonode should not be there.08:05
ForgeAus!LVM08:05
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO08:05
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ubuntuohh so is it because its SATA?08:06
ForgeAushmmm08:06
ForgeAusprobably not08:06
ForgeAussata is just sda instead of hda08:06
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Agent_bobprobably because the liveCD installer is "junk"08:06
ForgeAusbut it depends, its possible that theres some raid or sata stuff thats made it an LVM08:07
matt0507anyone know a good image editing software i could grab from adept? thanks.08:07
ForgeAusmatt... GIMP!08:07
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ForgeAus(or if you want kde alternatives you should already have krita by default)08:07
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Agent_bobxpaint ?08:08
ForgeAustheres also stuff like Blender and Kpovray  depends on what kind of image editing you want to do08:08
matt0507ok i typed in gimp and all these plugins showed up. how can i tell what the actually install is?08:08
ForgeAusyes xpaint even08:08
ForgeAusthe actual install should be just gimp itself, but yeah there is lotsa plugins for it08:08
JasenOMG dependancies....08:09
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ForgeAusunfortunately gimp is GTK-based rather than QT based08:09
ForgeAuskoffice has at least 2 graphic apps in it...08:09
Agent_bobJasen i asked you why you were compiling....  all debian based linux distros are binarry package oriented...08:10
deathnotemounting my iso but my warcraft can't run08:10
deathnotesigh08:10
ForgeAuswarcraft, warcraft II warcraft III World of Warcraft? which one?08:11
JasenBob.... I have no idea what I am doing08:11
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ForgeAusI'm sure WineHQ would have some info on it anyhow08:11
ForgeAus!wine08:11
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:11
JasenI am a total nub lol08:11
Agent_bobJasen what is the desired end result ?08:11
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Jasenall I want to do is install sylpheed.... it is (from what I am told) the email package that will support my needs (robust, fast and can handle and sort 15,000+ stored emails without bogging down)08:12
Agent_bobsylpheed - Light weight e-mail client with GTK+08:13
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Agent_bob!sylpheed08:13
ubotusylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-1build1 (edgy), package size 580 kB, installed size 1424 kB08:13
Jasenunfortunately I have been stuck in gates-land for about 25 years and never learned a real os08:14
Agent_bobjasen all you need to do is enable the universe repo if it's not already and use your favorite package manager to install it.08:14
Jasenwhat is a package manager?08:15
ForgeAusKivio is good for diagramming08:15
Agent_bobaka  sudo apt-get install sylpheed08:15
ForgeAusJasen basically a software installer08:15
Agent_bobJasen adept08:15
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Agent_bobJasen synaptic08:15
Agent_bob!apt08:15
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:15
ForgeAuspackage managers basically deal with your .debs (or .rpms for distros like Mandriva)08:15
ubuntucan you just dbl click to install?08:16
Jasenok... I installed the edgy cd... it is running. is there a package manager in it?08:16
ForgeAusyes08:16
ForgeAusat least 208:16
Agent_bobthere is one in your   kmenu08:16
Agent_bobadept08:16
ForgeAusaptitude is a cli one, but adept is the main one08:16
ForgeAusadd/remove programs uses "a mode of" adept08:17
JasenOMG.... thank you!!!08:17
Agent_bobi prefer synaptic over adept   but don't like any of them really.      apt  is all i use08:17
ForgeAus(they're actually separate binaries but it at least seems to use the same engine as adept)08:17
ubuntuim installing kubuntu on a sata drive, will it boot properly?08:18
ForgeAusagentBob there is a kynaptic :) arklinux uses it08:18
ForgeAusbut I'm not sure there is a .deb for it08:18
matt0507!gimp08:18
ubotugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.08:18
Agent_boball of them are mearly frontends to dpkg08:18
ForgeAustrue08:18
ForgeAuskynaptic was basically just a KDE-style synaptic anyway08:18
ForgeAustheres also kpackage08:18
ForgeAusor even smart!08:19
ubuntuim installing kubuntu on a sata drive, will it boot properly and will it conflict with my winxp install?08:19
Jasenso I go to a repository and it will have sylpheed?08:19
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Agent_bobno and yes ubuntu  but not nessecerally in that order.08:19
ForgeAusJasen you can add a repository with sylpheed possibly ... google it08:19
Agent_bob:)08:19
surgyubuntu: no and no im on sata too08:19
ForgeAusactually kubuntu SHOULD NOT interfere with your winXP08:20
ubuntuno? it wont boot?08:20
Jasen(hopefully my inexperience will entertain someone)08:20
ForgeAusyou can install grub in a way that doesn't mess up your MBR08:20
surgyubuntu: you wont have problems :)08:20
ForgeAus(I think it does so by default anyhow)08:20
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Agent_bobJasen you go to repositories and enable universe     click apply changes and then  install   sylpheed08:20
ForgeAusI'm on sata too but I think ubuntu's is a little more complex than merely a sata drive08:20
Gretljust click on install and take your time to read the menus coming there properly08:21
surgyagreed08:21
ForgeAussome kind of LVM in there...08:21
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deathnote!uml08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
Agent_bob!botsnack | deathnote08:22
ubotudeathnote: Yum!08:22
Jasenok, I am in adept, I go to manage repositories (yes?) I dont see universe08:23
deathnotethe iso won't work08:23
ForgeAusno08:24
Agent_bobit should be there Jasen08:24
ForgeAusUser mode linux08:24
ForgeAusor United Modelling Language08:24
ForgeAusdepends on whihc UML you were looking for08:24
Agent_bobJucato busy ?08:24
ForgeAus!honeypot08:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about honeypot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:25
ForgeAusawww08:25
ForgeAusthats sad08:25
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ForgeAusfor UML diagramming tools something like Kivio or Dia is great... for Usermode linux try searching for pacakges in Adept08:26
SolidSource!w32codecs08:26
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs08:26
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ForgeAusor you could just get vlc08:26
ubuntuwhy is my screen resolution limited to 1024?08:26
ubuntuis it because im on live cd?08:27
surgygood night08:28
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SolidSourceyes, if you are on live cd...you will smaller res08:28
ubuntuok thanx08:29
sparrmy firefox is giving me weird cursors...  a blue pointer, a very tall hand for links, a blue cursor with a spinning clock while loading.  very surprising, very annoying.  what might have done that and how do i fix it?  could this be a gtk problem?08:29
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SolidSource!codecs08:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:30
deathnoteuml = unified modeling language08:31
deathnoteForgeAus: u were saying kivio or dia is great for UML diagramming?08:31
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Slynderdale!proccesses08:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about proccesses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:32
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eh-ef-kayhello.08:33
ForgeAusDeathnote Kivio is a koffice app that is designed as an alternative to Visio for MS Office08:35
eh-ef-kayi got an odd question about colors not showing in xchat like topics ect are in color but any color i try to send don't work as well as colors others use and this seems to be the only distro i've had this issue on any ideas?08:35
ForgeAusDia is Gnome's Diagramming Tool (theres even a prgram to create I'm not sure which way, either a diagram from C code or dia to a C skeleton one of them two08:36
deathnoteForgeAus: sorry i am new to UML.. my lecturer tell us to install Proxy Designer.. but i'm using linux08:36
deathnotebut he say its not important..words can draw the diagram too08:36
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sparrFor some reason my mouse cursor theme changes in firefox.  This just started happening.  What did I do to cause it, and how can I fix it?08:37
matt0507what do i do with .tar.gz file? how can i turn it into something useful >.<08:37
deathnotemat: tar xzvf .tar.gz08:38
aseigomatt0507: first, unpack it. from the command line: tar xvf <filename> ; you can also use ark, a gui app, as well; clicking on it in konqi usually launches ark08:38
sparraseigo: tar xvf on a .tar.gz wont work so well :-p08:38
aseigoactually these days tar actually autodetects the compression ... which is pretty neat08:39
ForgeAusI don't know Proxy Designer08:39
ForgeAusum you can check out Visual Paradigm for UML08:39
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aseigoso you don't have to specify z or j (bzip2) manually. about time too, imho =)08:39
ForgeAusnot usre if there is a linux version tho08:40
sparrnote to self: upgrade tar08:40
aseigomatt0507: is this an program you're trying to build?08:40
ForgeAus(it definitely has a plugin for Visual Studio .NET)08:40
aseigosparr: heh.. if your using kubuntu, at least edgy, it's the default behaviour08:40
matt0507yes it is, it suppose to be the gimp im trying to install08:40
sparraseigo: im using dapper/edgy/feisty/selfbuilt  :)08:40
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ForgeAuswhy can't I install libdvdcss2 and/or w32codecs?08:41
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ForgeAusthe ubunutu-multimedia-kde metapackage from saveas doesn't want to install...08:42
JasenAgent Bob, I found a reference to "apt-get install sylpheed"  is this the apt you were talking about?08:42
sparrForgeAus: is multiverse in your sources?08:42
ForgeAusyes08:42
aseigomatt0507: ok, so once you've unpacked the source, cd into the resulting directory and read the README and/or INSTALL files08:42
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aseigomatt0507: generally you're going to do sth like this: ./configure --prefix=/usr; make && sudo make install08:43
aseigoassuming you want it in /usr as opposed to the more traditional /usr/local for user-installed apps =)08:43
ForgeAusI have the required packages but it might conflict or replace something else I have?... any idea what?08:43
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Jasenuuh-oh he left,08:44
JasenForgeAus: are you familiar with Apt?08:44
ForgeAusum partially08:45
deathnotetry to apt-get remove xxxx08:45
deathnotethen get again?08:45
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JasenI found a reference to "apt-get install sylpheed" is that something I type in at a command line?08:45
ForgeAusoohh ok it called them forbidden!08:46
ForgeAusis that beacuse they're non-free?08:46
deathnotehmm maybe08:47
deathnote!photoshop08:47
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant08:47
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dhqi need help08:49
dhqi have a laptop08:49
deathnoteanyone know of any great photo editing tools similar to window's adobe photoshop in linux?08:49
dhqand my temparature of the laptop is never below 55degres08:50
dhqdeathnote: gimp is nice08:50
SolidSourcedeathnote: theres always photoshop in wine08:50
deathnotewine??!08:51
deathnotedo u mean running  adobe photoshop in wine?08:51
deathnoteok trying out gimp08:51
SolidSourceyes, thats what I do08:51
dhqdeathnote: well i love gimp08:52
deathnoteic..problem is i don't have a cracked version of adobe photoshop lol08:52
dhqdeathnote: thats y i prefer opensource08:52
deathnotedhq: i'm using 2 laptops now..how to check the temperature?08:52
SolidSourceeh, theres always a way around a serial08:52
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dhqdeathnote: i use gkrellm and i can monitor my temperature08:53
deathnotek installing08:53
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deathnotewhich one of the graph shows temp? lol08:57
dhqdeathnote: go throught the settings08:57
deathnotegot it.. one is 42C08:59
deathnotethe other laptop is acer dual core.. 67C and 57C09:00
deathnoteyours?09:00
SolidSourceremember to keep a can of air around to clear out the fans....that will help09:01
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deathnotea can of cool air?09:03
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deathnoteanyway what temp normally will the laptop take? 100C?09:04
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incorrectcan tora connect to mysql?09:05
SolidSourcedeathnote: not just a can of compressed air to clear the dust out of the fans09:05
ForgeAushey Jucato do you think someone should work on a plugin for CNR for Konqueror, basically all that should be needed is a sidebar by the look of it!09:06
deathnote!photoshop09:06
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant09:06
deathnotei don't like gimp..09:06
crazy_penguin'morning all!09:07
ForgeAuslooks mostly like its just a customized web-browser anyway09:07
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deathnotewhich looks like adobe photoshop the most? gimp, imagemagick, pixel32, cinepaint, rubymagick, corel photopaint 9 ?09:08
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memphiswoot woot woot09:15
memphiskubuntu rocks09:15
SolidSourceanyone else hear that owl?09:15
deathnotehey where's the layer tool in gimp ?09:15
Admiral_Chicagoyes it does.09:15
Admiral_Chicagodeathnote: second09:15
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memphisnice09:15
Admiral_Chicagodeathnote: Ctrl + L09:16
Admiral_Chicagoor Dialogue >> Layers09:16
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deathnoteAdmiral_Chicago: ahh ctrl L works..where do i open those tool bars actually?09:16
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Admiral_Chicagodeathnote: ^^09:17
Admiral_Chicago Admiral_Chicago> or Dialogue >> Layers09:17
deathnoteic so its called dialogue09:17
deathnotehey gimp is fun09:17
Admiral_Chicagofile, open as layer works as well.09:17
deathnotehow do u arrange those dialogues?09:18
deathnotemanually?09:18
Admiral_Chicagonot sure, my gimp skills are lacking09:18
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Jasen:)  WOOOHOOO Its installed.....09:19
Jasen.... but what a journey09:20
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Admiral_ChicagoJasen: what was your problem09:21
craig_hi room09:22
Admiral_Chicagohello09:22
Jaseninstalling an app09:22
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Admiral_Chicagowhich one?09:22
craig_any one want to chat on msn09:22
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JasenI was installing sylpheed09:22
gregddeathnote: try krita it is nice09:22
Admiral_Chicagoor inkscape09:23
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Admiral_Chicagobut thats in the repositories09:24
craig_hello09:24
JasenAdmiral, this is my first linux box... I had no idea how to use them09:24
Admiral_ChicagoJasen: open up adept_manager09:24
Admiral_ChicagoK menu >> system iirc09:24
Jasenya....09:24
JasenI did it :)09:25
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Admiral_Chicagois that how you installed it?09:25
premier_hello09:25
craig_hello everyone09:25
Admiral_Chicagohello premier_09:25
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craig_anyone like to msn09:25
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Jasenwell.. I used Adept to install Symantic and then I added a link from a website to the symantic then I installed it09:25
Jasennot bad for a nub09:26
premier_Im having trouble running a java program from the command line.  Linux tries to run a program called gij, which is apperently version 1.4.209:26
Admiral_Chicagolol, adept does the exact same thing.09:26
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deathnotewhat's krita?09:26
Admiral_Chicagothey are both package manager (GUI front ends) for apt09:26
ernieI've just run Krita - its very paintshopish - its not too shabby at all :) I might use it instead of the GIMP or as well as09:26
Jasenbut adept didnt have a repository with sylpheed listed.... I enabled all the ones that were there...09:26
premier_I have version 1.6.0 on my computer, but bash automatically goes to the /usr/bin/java rather than /home/jdk1.6.0/bin09:26
Admiral_Chicagoit's an image editing program09:26
Admiral_ChicagoJasen: did you do an update?09:27
Jasenyes09:27
Jasenthen I searched sylpheed09:27
deathnoteoh cool09:27
deathnotethis is cooooooooooool09:27
premier_bash does recognize scripts from /home/premier/jdk1.6.0/bin09:27
deathnotenvmind09:27
premier_how do I fix this?09:27
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Admiral_Chicagohmm, i'm going to say it was something you did, i've never had a problem. i'd recommend running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"09:28
Admiral_Chicagono quotes09:28
deathnoteyeah..09:28
deathnoteanymore interesting software09:28
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JasenAdmaral probably it was.... I am a noob09:28
Admiral_ChicagoJasen: run those commands in konsole09:29
premier_Admiral_Chicago: can you help me?09:30
Jasen:) I already got it to work through my circuitous method....  I was just reveling in my success for the ppl here who helped me earlier... though I appreciate the insite. I want to know how it works so I can be less nublike next time09:31
Admiral_Chicagopremier_: never had a problem with java, i'm sorry09:31
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Admiral_ChicagoJasen: there is a good guide, let me get it for you09:32
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premier_well, this isnt a java problem, its a bash problem09:32
JasenAdmaral, thank you :)09:32
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Jucato!info sylpheed09:32
ubotusylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-1build1 (edgy), package size 580 kB, installed size 1424 kB09:32
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premier_see, If I force it to use /home/premier/jdk1.6.0/bin, java will try to look for source there, rather than in the folder I give09:33
deathnotei've installed ltris but how do i run it?09:33
deathnote!ltris09:33
ubotultris: very polished Tetris clone with CPU opponents. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-1 (edgy), package size 484 kB, installed size 1144 kB09:33
Admiral_ChicagoJasen: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html09:33
Jucatopremier_: any reason you didn't want to install java from the repos?09:33
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JasenAdmiral: thanks! that will help much.09:34
Admiral_ChicagoJasen: it's written by some very good people. It's a good read for new people. enjoy09:34
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: cloak is taking forever to get. something is screwy09:35
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Jucatoso I've noticed... I keep on /whois'ing you :)09:35
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Admiral_Chicagoi keep doing that to myself too.09:36
Jucatolol09:36
Admiral_Chicagoi'd like to get my addy as well, but that can wait a bit09:36
Jucato!info sun-java6-jdk09:36
ubotuPackage sun-java6-jdk does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas09:36
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Jucato!info sun-java6-jdk edgy-backports09:36
ubotuPackage sun-java6-jdk does not exist in edgy09:37
Jucatook why doesn't ubotu scan edgy-backports...09:37
Admiral_Chicagonot sure, i think Dennis is the man that handles the bot09:38
Jucatoyeah.. that was more of an outburst rather than an honest question :)09:38
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Admiral_Chicagoah09:41
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deathnote!webcam09:42
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:42
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ForgeAusbrb09:42
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deathnotehi my acer laptop have a build in webcam09:44
deathnotehow do i use it?09:44
deathnotewhat application can use the webcam09:44
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aldindeathnote: kopete, amsn09:44
Admiral_Chicago!webcam09:44
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:44
Admiral_Chicagothat's the best I can do09:44
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aldindeathnote: gqcam09:45
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deathnoteok gqcam09:46
deathnotehow do i know if its detected?09:46
craig_hi arcangel09:46
craig_looks for a chat09:47
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@ubuntu/member/admiral-chiago] 09:49
Jucatonice!! congrats Admiral_Chicago09:49
Jucatobut why chiago?09:49
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Admiral_Chicagothanks. bed time soon...09:49
Jucatoadmiral-chiago?09:49
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i'm from Chicago.09:49
Admiral_Chicagooh i see09:50
Jucato:P09:50
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deathnote!gspca09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gspca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
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[StingRay] Hi, stdin :)09:55
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thomaxhi all09:56
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Admiral_Chicagohello09:59
thomaxI have a little problem with some .rar files, it's one package split in several packages like .r01 .r02 and so on, now for some reason some of the files are all uper case, while the rest is lower case and ark won't extract them because he doesn't recognise the ones in uppercase (looks like it is case sensitive) now do any of you have an idea to get those other files in lower case without having to rename them all manually10:00
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thomaxmore than 40 files, so it would take me a while doing it manual10:01
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thomaxno one?10:05
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Pensa`MIAthere are batch file renaming programs in the repo's10:06
thomaxyou have a name of such a script?10:06
Pensa`MIAkbrename or something like that, I'm not on linux atm so I cant't say for sure10:06
thomaxalright, i'll check it out, thanks anyway ^^10:07
Admiral_Chicagothomax: apt-cache search foobar will search for package foobar10:07
Jucato!krename10:07
ubotukrename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.12-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1240 kB10:07
Jucatothomax: ^^^10:07
thomaxalright, great10:07
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: you know all the packages don't you10:08
Jucatolol no :)10:09
Jucatosome are just familiar10:09
thomaxinstalled krename_3.0.12-0ubuntu1_i386.deb10:09
JucatoI can't memorize 20,000+ names :)10:09
thomaxthanx for your help y'all10:09
Jucatoer? installed the .deb?10:09
ForgeAusThunar has a batch renaming tool but krename suits kubuntu way better10:09
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thomaxjep .deb10:10
Jucato"sudo apt-get install krename" works better10:10
thomaxthats what i did ;)10:10
Jucatohm. ok...10:10
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kjean-pierrehello every body10:10
kjean-pierrei'm new user on kubuntu, and I would like to install a proxy,10:11
kjean-pierreto go on msn10:11
kjean-pierreis there somebody who could help me ?10:12
kjean-pierreplease?10:12
kjean-pierreand I would like also see my windows partitions10:12
ForgeAusmsn needs a proxy?10:12
kjean-pierreI don't realy know10:13
ForgeAuswell mounting your windows partitions you just need to know which reference the drive is10:13
kjean-pierrehda?10:13
ForgeAusie /dev/sdb2 (for partition 2 on sata drive 2)10:13
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ForgeAusok hda refers to ide drive 110:13
kjean-pierreI try this raight now10:13
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Jucatonight Admiral10:13
kjean-pierreit is not a sataconnexion10:13
kjean-pierreit is ide10:14
kjean-pierrebut I try ath ever10:14
ForgeAuskjean the command line is sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 (assuming hda1 is a dir under mnt, you may need to sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 first)10:14
kjean-pierrethanks forgeAus10:15
kjean-pierreI try this10:15
ForgeAushda refers to the entire disk itself I think, what you want to do is mount a partition on the disk... ie hda1 (most likely unless you have multiple partitions on it)...10:15
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kjean-pierreyes it is10:16
kjean-pierreI try and come back10:16
kjean-pierrethanks10:16
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kjean-pierrels10:19
ForgeAusnow thats a command linux users should know well :)10:20
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deathnote!java10:27
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:27
deathnotewhat's the gui tool for java editing in linux?10:27
ForgeAuswhats wrong with java6?10:27
ForgeAusdeathnote a good one is eclipse10:28
ForgeAusbut you can get netbeans or many others...10:28
deathnoteok i try eclipse10:28
deathnoteas long as its free?10:28
ForgeAuseclipse is kinda big10:28
ForgeAusum not sure if its free/oss or not10:28
deathnoteoss?10:29
deathnote!eclipse10:29
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB10:29
ForgeAusdoes monodevelop do java?10:29
deathnotei've no idea.. in windows i use jcompiler10:29
ForgeAusI'm not much of a java programmer so I don't really know10:30
ForgeAusbut eclipse is extensible to jhython/python or ruby or perl10:30
ForgeAustheres even aspect Java...10:30
ForgeAusone of the most interesting things is an OpenOffice plugin for it! rolf10:31
ForgeAusgrr rofl10:31
deathnotek will try eclipse10:31
deathnote!screensaver10:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:31
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deathnoteany graphics intensive screensaver for testing10:32
dettoaltrimenti_is it difficult to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without reinstalling?10:32
Ghostnot difficult10:32
ForgeAusI don't know dettoal some poeple have trouble10:33
dettoaltrimenti_do you just do it in adept10:33
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ForgeAusisn't it apt-get dist-update or something10:33
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ForgeAusI don't know if kubuntu notifies of dist updates10:34
ForgeAusyou can install gnomes one10:34
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mauro!upgrading | dettoaltrimenti_10:34
ubotudettoaltrimenti_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:34
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maurodeathnote: i do java programming, i use Eclipse10:35
dettoaltrimenti_thanks10:35
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deathnoteok i'm installing eclipse10:36
deathnoteits big10:36
maurodeathnote: yes, it is.10:36
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ndeehello there, how can I create a PDF out of OpenOffice?10:39
ndeefound it :D10:39
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ninHerhi all10:41
deathnotewhat's a proper way to install beryl?10:44
deathnote!beryl10:44
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deathnoteso many guides but..10:45
deathnotei haven't suceed yet..haha10:45
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deathnote!keyboard10:49
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts10:49
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dogeragazzi salve,11:13
dogeho due prese telefoniche a casa11:14
Jucato!it | doge11:14
ubotudoge: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:14
dogevolevo sapere se posso utilizzarle tutte e due per connettermi ad internet contemporaneamente con due pc diversi11:14
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dogescusate11:14
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Jucatodoge: English only please11:15
nounouBonjour11:15
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Guardianhi11:36
Guardianwhen i plug an usb drive11:36
Guardianit asks me what i want to do11:36
Guardiani choose "open in new window"11:37
Guardianand nothing happens11:37
Guardianand there is no icon on the desktop11:37
Guardianany idea please ?11:37
econthrusthi!11:37
econthrusti might look for some data in the directories under /media11:37
econthrustif none of the folders hold the data suspected to be on the usb, then i don't have a clue :(11:38
econthrustmaybe, u could install the "autofs" package11:38
econthrustsudo apt-get install autofs i think11:38
econthrusti look it up to be correct11:39
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econthrustyes autofs is right, i hope that helps :)11:40
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mrernyhola11:41
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johny_Hey guys, I've got a problem with Kubuntu. Don't why it happened but when I log in the login manager appears, I put the login and the password, then it returns to the login screen, KDE doesn't start. If someone want to gave a hand, I've got the log from Xorg11:54
psb154johny_ this sounds like an Xserver problem, specifically: not the correct Xserver for the graphics card you are using.11:55
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kjean-pierrelet's go to eat11:57
kjean-pierresee you later11:57
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johny_psb154: But so far I have not had problems with my graphics card (Radeon M 9700). I've been using the fglrx drivers without problems, and what's to say: I used to restart my computer often11:59
psb154johny_ something has *obviously* changed :-) have you updated recently?12:00
psb154if so this could be the problem.12:00
econthrusti still suggest u to look at the /var/log/Xorg.log type file12:00
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econthrustthat will surely help u trust me :)12:01
psb154on the kubuntuforums front page there is a note that people who have upgraded recently may suffer problems with ATI and nvidia xservers.12:01
econthrusti have a ati card too in my notebook, it sux sometimes but the logs helped me to calibrate12:01
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econthrustfglrxinfo says i have a versio 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)  radeon driver from the repository12:03
econthrusti set it up accoording to the unofficial ubuntu guide ^^12:03
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johny_psb154: No I haven't. I've just found out that I hadn't any space on the HDD- "df -h" gave me "0 mb". Was the problem that?12:07
econthrustLOL12:07
econthrustthat's always a problem, it surely help if u set some space free :)12:08
econthrustmaybe X couldn't write the settings, logs, and throw an error12:09
johny_econthrust: Ok, but can it "block" KDE from loading?12:09
psb154johny_ oh... hate it when that happens 8-) I have seen that happen when MySQL dumps too many log files to the hard disk.12:09
econthrustin my opinion yes, if it cannot write session files12:09
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psb154johny_ yes any window manager will prolly have the same problem. You will have to reboot, hit escape key, select recovery-mode or whatever it is called and free up some space.12:11
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johny_BTW guys,My Kubuntu partition is only 15 gb, I've got a lot of space on the win partition (free). Do you know some program to convert that freespace in another partition, just like partition magic does?12:11
econthrusti use acronis partitioning expert 200312:11
johny_econthrust: is it free?12:12
econthrustnope :)12:12
MuJjohny_: what filesystem are you using on kubuntu partition?12:12
johny_econthrust: can I manage the partitions from a terminal session with this app?12:12
johny_MuJ: ext 312:12
econthrusti just cannot think any free one, except ubuntu's gparted or something called like that12:12
psb154johny_ are you looking to format the partition?12:13
MuJjohny_: there's lots of tutorials how to resize ext2/ext3 partitions on web.. just google =)12:13
econthrustjohny_:  it's a windows software but it has a great bootcd function burnt on a cd12:14
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johny_MuJ: I do know that but without a graphic interface would be quite difficult -:).12:14
econthrusta great partition manager will load, and u can do almost anything12:14
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MuJjohny_: actually it's not.. :|12:14
MuJjust read couple through and I'm sure you can do it12:15
johny_MuJ: i was looking to find that out, listening to you..12:15
psb154johny_ if you boot from the kubuntu install cd you will find a gui partition manager thing on the start bar.12:15
johny_MuJ: Do you mean searching google with "Lynx"?12:15
MuJuuumm.. why not? =)12:16
johny_psb154: I just wanted to do it in this way but was curious about others opinions12:16
econthrustjohny_: boot up in windows, and serch12:16
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econthrust*search12:16
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johny_ok, but just wanted to know whether it's possible from the terminal?12:17
MuJit is12:17
econthrustsure, i know it is, everything is possible from console, u only have to read how12:17
psb154johny_ man mke2fs12:18
econthrust*nix console with bash just rocks :)12:18
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nomad111hey all does any1 here use xgl?12:18
econthrustnope :(12:18
johny_nomad111: I do12:18
nomad111do u have trouble playing videos12:19
johny_what you mean "trouble"?12:19
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nomad111sluggish behaviour12:19
nomad111frame skipping12:19
johny_yeah12:19
nomad111did u resolve that issue?12:20
johny_nomad111: I've experineced the similar behavior12:20
johny_nomad111: but for me it was every 10, 11 sec the image freezed12:20
johny_nomad111: and then everything returned to the previous state12:21
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johny_nomad111: Have you read the ATI manual driver yet?12:21
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johny_ok guys now I'm going to restart this beauty and see what happens12:24
nomad111i dont have ati12:24
nomad111intel12:24
johny_nomad111: Sorry I do12:24
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johny_nomad111: XGL is a popular graphics server, haven't you found some infos on your problem on web?12:25
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nomad111i didnt bother looking12:26
nomad111ive formatted and install many distros after screwing around xgl/beryl/compiz12:26
nomad111now im just going to settle down12:26
nomad111and use the standard xserver12:26
johny_nomad111: no hope?12:26
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nomad111not really just sick of formatting and installing lol12:27
nomad111i was interested in a few features of beryl12:27
nomad111not so much the eye candy stuff12:27
nomad111however emerald beats the current kde themes12:27
johny_nomad111: you might be more experineced than me, what do you think about those XGL/Compiz/Beryl?12:27
johny_are they usefull, bring anything "new"?12:28
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nomad111i like the cube idea12:29
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johny_nomad111: yeah this one really rocks12:30
nomad111not so much the wobbly windows and minimise maximise effects12:30
nomad111i dont see the point12:30
nomad111the zooming features is sometimes useful and negative effect coz i dont have great vision12:30
johny_nomad111: Ok, where's the point of having on of those installed?12:30
waylandbillI've not had luck with beryl. Well, under sabayon I did, but xgl crashes the system under kubuntu every single time.12:31
nomad111if u have beryl installed u can turn features on and off12:31
nomad111emerald is so good12:31
nomad111i like the bright window decorations12:31
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nomad111lol12:32
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nomad111the alt tab preview is cool12:32
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waylandbillsooner or later the xgl will work and I'll play with it again. I'm not fond of locking up my system repeatedly to find out what's going on.12:32
johny_nomad111: do all those things consume all the computer recources?12:33
johny_resources12:33
waylandbilljohny_: yeah. they use up some memory and cpu.12:33
johny_ok12:34
johny_thanks for all the info12:34
johny_got to reset this machine12:34
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ni-hao777jj12:38
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mefisto__I recently upgraded/installed linux headers so I now have 2.6.17.10 and 2.6.17.11. Everything seems to be fine when running 2.6.17.11, so can I safely remove 2.6.17.10? (Just trying to avoid unforeseen problems)12:40
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psb154mefisto__ best way to remove unnecessary files is to either do a: sudo apt-get autoclean    or: sudo apt-get clean   I'd suggest autoclean12:42
psb154mefisto__ man apt-get for more details.12:43
mefisto__psb154: I don't mean removing the .deb files, I mean fully uninstalling my original linux headers and image packages, 2.6.17-1012:43
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Linux_Galorenice pick of the centre of our galaxy with the comsic dust removed http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0702/gcenter_spitzer_f40.jpg12:45
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Linux_Galoreoops wrong channel12:45
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mefisto__anyone have any comments on uninstalling old linux images?12:59
econthrustwell u can uninstall them in synaptic for example, though i don't think it will ever bother you, and knowing ubuntu, no problems would occur01:02
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econthrusti myself didn't bother of uninstalling them, just to gain 50-80MB of disk space01:02
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econthrustit's up to u01:03
vgeiw done it, no biggies, they are just gone01:03
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michaelpohello.... i cannot watch vcd... i can watch dvd... what do I need to do? before i did a reinstallation i could watch both dvd and vcd after i installed some package... i could not find the website that teach me how to do it now... please help...01:04
vge!dvd01:04
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:04
vge!vcd01:04
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:05
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ForgeAuswow you OS is freaky!01:05
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michaelpovge: i've got libdvdcss2 installed.01:08
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ForgeAusI can't seem to get it... I keep getting a message that its forbidden01:10
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michaelpodownloading vlc now...01:11
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krautmoin01:17
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michaelpovlc did not work... it crashed when first loading vcd content..01:21
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ForgeAus!saveas01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about saveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:24
ForgeAus!w32codecs01:24
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs01:24
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Filthpighmm01:26
Filthpigjust wondering why kubuntu does not come with 3d acc drivers and mp3 support?01:27
LeeJunFanMSN IM having issues? or did they make a change kopete doesn't like?01:27
mart81ForgeAus: can you please use /msg on ubotu?01:27
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FilthpigLeeJunFan: can't connect?01:27
Tm_TLeeJunFan: It's MSN, what did you expect?01:27
LeeJunFanFilthpig: nope.01:27
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FilthpigI had that problem an hour ago01:28
mart81LeeJunFan: yes i have connecting problems too, also using kopete.01:28
Tm_TIt's msn network broken, as usual.01:28
FilthpigI just let it reconnect until it connected01:28
mart81lol01:28
FilthpigI'm using aMSN though01:28
JucatoFilthpig: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats The introduction answers your wondering01:28
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JucatoLeeJunFan: can't connect either... but that's nothing new...01:29
mart81offtopic: today they also started with popups on connecting that there is now msn live for you...01:29
econthrusttwo days ago i deleted my msn account b/c i got fed up with it ^^01:29
LeeJunFanMSN not so live.01:30
mart81systay popups in kopete that is from MS, which is quite shocking to me :p01:30
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Tm_Teconthrust: Good choice.01:30
econthrustTm_T: i know :) it's the result of a few years of experience, or maybe not experiencing any good :)01:31
ForgeAusJucato why am I getting this:01:31
ForgeAusErr http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas/all libdvdcss2 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu401:31
ForgeAus  403 Forbidden01:31
ForgeAustrying to install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs packages01:31
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JucatoForgeAus: Seveas' repo might be down or something....01:32
econthrustthe cherry on top is that i had to change to linux b/c my notebook has a radeon card and windows crashes all the time :)01:32
JucatoSeveas: any comment?01:32
SeveasForgeAus, because you forgot to read the BIG BOLD NOTICES on the wikipage01:32
econthrustthe change is permanent01:32
ForgeAuserm what big bold notices?01:33
Seveasthe big bold ones...01:33
Jucato"This server sits on an ADSL line and is NOT accessible outside my home network. Please use a mirror." <--- that one?01:33
ForgeAushmm trying that01:33
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ForgeAusbut I just got the pgp thing from there I have to change the repo in sources.lst too right?01:33
SeveasJucato, that sounds like the one :)01:33
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Jucatohehe :)01:34
Tm_TCan we slap you too?01:34
econthrustLOL ^^01:34
ForgeAusno.. and especially not with a large trout01:34
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lab014-03where areu frome01:34
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Jucato!info flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports01:35
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)01:35
Tm_TForgeAus: No trout, I had enough greenpeace already.01:35
Jucato!info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports01:35
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)01:35
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JucatoSeveas: question about that ^^^^01:35
Seveashmm01:35
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ForgeAusyay its working!01:36
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ForgeAusaawww...01:36
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Jucatoyou started it :D01:37
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Seveas!info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports01:37
ForgeAusactually it was Tm's idea about the slapping01:37
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)01:37
Seveashmmmmmmm01:37
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Seveas@reload Encyclopedia01:37
Seveas%reload Encyclopedia01:37
ubotuOK01:37
Seveas!info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports01:37
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)01:37
ForgeAusbut I confess I was the one that started the trout thing...01:37
Tm_TForgeAus: No, slap alias kickban is my idea. ] ;=01:37
JucatoSeveas: yay! :)01:38
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Ash-FoxAnyone have any idea of how to strip out cr/lf characters from a file in a bash script?01:38
SeveasAsh-Fox, sed -e 's/\r//' -i file.sh01:38
Seveasthat's for the cr01:38
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ForgeAuswow 14mb for win32 codecs!01:38
Ash-FoxThanks Seveas01:38
JucatoSeveas: \r? not \n01:38
Seveasrepeat with \n instead of \r for cr :)01:38
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Seveasbut sed may fail there01:39
Jucatothought*01:39
Seveasstupid single-line patternspace01:39
SeveasJucato, crlf == \r\n01:39
Ash-FoxHm, weird, not working01:39
JucatoSeveas: oh ok :)01:39
SeveasAsh-Fox, for the \n it fails I guess01:39
Seveassed isn't smart01:39
michaelpoi've also just installed quake... where is the icon to start quake?\01:39
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ForgeAushmmm michael is quake dos or windows?01:40
gnomefreakmichaelpo: you have to make a launcher for it01:40
michaelpohow do i make a launcher?01:41
gnomefreakmichaelpo: wait are you talking the game quake?01:41
michaelpoyes the game quake201:41
gnomefreak :(01:41
gnomefreakmichaelpo: doesnt quake run in wine?01:42
ForgeAusI thought quake was originaly a dos app01:42
ForgeAusbut quake 2? not sure01:42
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ForgeAuswell if its dos it'd need dosbox01:43
ForgeAusdoes wine run dos apps too?01:43
michaelpoi typed quake2... Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx01:44
ForgeAuscould be either A) couldn't find the path to it or B) its protected (permissions issue)01:44
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Ash-FoxWasn't quaked opensourced?01:45
Ash-Fox*quake01:45
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gnomefreak!info quake201:45
s4_dzalbs_jhi01:46
ubotuquake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB01:46
soulriderhi01:46
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gnomefreakmichaelpo: why didnt you get it from the repos01:46
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janchshmz....01:46
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janchswhat is going on?01:46
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mikmakhi01:47
michaelpognomefreak: i did get it from the repos01:47
mikmakI've got a little problem with edgy on some computers with mouting USB keys, sometimes it won't open the key and .xsession-errors says something like : kded: ERROR: mount failed for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_part1_size_252690432: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied - A security policy in place prevents this sender f01:47
mikmakrom sending this message to this recipient01:47
gnomefreakmichaelpo: than if its not running i would file bug on it. more than likely if you met all depends for it than its looking in wrong path for that module01:48
michaelpohmm... how do i create an i con for quake2?01:48
michaelpowhich directory is quake2 installed?01:48
gnomefreakmichaelpo: you need to knwo the command to run it to make icon for it01:49
gnomefreakmichaelpo: /usr/share/somewhere01:49
michaelponope... not in usrshare01:50
gnomefreakmichaelpo: parts of quake were installed in a bunch of dirs. im sure01:50
michaelpohow do i do a search for the directory?01:50
gnomefreakmichaelpo: locate quake01:50
gnomefreakopen konq and find a search option01:50
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iroxorsjuhey guys01:51
iroxorsjui got a quick question01:51
soulriderask01:51
iroxorsjuApept package manager is working in the background for some reason and i don't see how to close it or that its even running01:52
iroxorsjui can see it in processes01:52
Jucato!adeptfix | iroxorsju01:52
ubotuiroxorsju: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:52
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iroxorsjuhow much of that do i put in the command promt01:53
Jucatoiroxorsju: only the ones inside the << >> part01:54
iroxorsjui am really really new i just installed my first program a bit ago01:54
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iroxorsjuhmmm01:55
iroxorsjuwell i did it it did not give me an error it just went away01:55
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iroxorsjui still got it in processes though01:56
iroxorsjuthe manager that is01:56
michaelpoi did a right click property in synaptic for quake2... lots of different directory... where is the quake2.exe file?01:56
ForgeAusmichael it doens't have to be a .exe file in linux01:57
ForgeAusmaybe just quake201:57
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ForgeAusor quakeII as long as its set to executable01:57
ForgeAuslinux isn't like windows or dos extensions don't have to be .com .exe .bat .pif etc... in order to run01:57
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iroxorsjugah this is a headache lol01:58
=== ForgeAus hands irox some aspirin
Filthpighm01:58
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iroxorsjuhow do i log into root01:58
Filthpiguse sudo01:58
iroxorsjuso i can jsut kill the proceess01:58
ForgeAussudo01:58
ForgeAustry sudo -i01:59
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Filthpighm01:59
ForgeAusor for single commands use sudo <command here>01:59
iroxorsju...01:59
ForgeAusshould ask you the root password before executing it01:59
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FilthpigI installed q2 from the repos, but I get Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx when trying to run the game01:59
ForgeAus(sometimes if you run another immediately after even with sudo before it it doesn't ask, perhaps it realizes your still logged in)01:59
iroxorsjuahh i tried putting this in there and it dind't ask for password01:59
iroxorsjusudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a02:00
iroxorsjudind't ask for password or do anything02:00
Filthpiga quick search for colormap gave nothing that had to do with q202:00
ForgeAusI don't know the fuser command02:00
iroxorsjuUbotu gave it to me02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gave it to me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
ForgeAus!fuser02:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:01
iroxorsju...02:01
iroxorsjuis that a person?02:01
ForgeAushehe lol sometimes things are strange02:01
ForgeAusno ubotu is a bot02:01
Jucatoiroxorsju: ok try to split it into 2 commands: "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"02:01
Jucatoiroxorsju: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"02:01
iroxorsjuok lol02:01
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iroxorsjunothing02:02
ForgeAussemicolons aren't an acceptible filenam char are they?02:02
iroxorsjuit gives no error nor does it ask for password02:02
ForgeAusirox perhaps your already logged in as root?02:02
Jucatoit's ok. the system remembers your password for a few minutes02:02
JucatoI think 3 minutes02:02
Jucatoiroxorsju: even this command shows nothing? sudo dpkg --configure -a02:03
iroxorsjuwell i went in to the performance monitor to kill a process but it said i dind't have privlages to kill it so i figured i wasn't02:03
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ForgeAusmaybe your sudo is broken?02:03
iroxorsjuniether does anything02:03
Jucatoiroxorsju: try launching Adept Manager again?02:04
iroxorsjuk sec i think i tried02:04
iroxorsjui will try again02:04
Jucatoyep. try again, specially after those 2 commands02:04
iroxorsjunothing it jsut poofs02:05
Jucatowhat do you mean by "poofs"?02:05
iroxorsjumanager doesn't come up it asks for password then never comes up02:05
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iroxorsjushall i jsut reboot?02:05
Jucatohm... Adept's sickness (again...)02:05
Jucatono02:05
Jucatoiroxorsju: try again... or... press Alt+F2, and type this: kdesu adept_manager (if you're on Edgy)02:06
iroxorsjui am on kbuntu02:06
iroxorsjuwhatever the newest one is02:06
ForgeAusedgy is a version of kubuntu02:06
Jucatothat would be edgy02:06
iroxorsjulol02:06
iroxorsjutold you i am new02:06
ForgeAusfeisty is the newer one than that but its in alpha/herd02:06
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iroxorsjuok02:08
iroxorsjui did02:08
michaelponevermind... no need to try quake2... try something else...02:08
iroxorsjukdesu adept_manager   it asked for password and nothing ever came up02:08
iroxorsjui think it would be easier to just restart :O02:08
iroxorsjuif that would work02:08
Jucatomaybe...02:08
iroxorsjui logged out and back in02:09
iroxorsjuonce but never turned off computer02:09
iroxorsjui jsut got done installing Boinc could that have done something?02:09
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iroxorsjube right back02:10
iroxorsjugonan restart computer02:10
michaelpois there another good fps that i can try in linux?02:10
tesukitremulous02:10
tesukican be found on www.tremulous.net02:11
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iroxorsjurestarting fixed it can't beat the old restart02:14
iroxorsjulol02:14
Jucatoheh02:15
iroxorsjuyou know this is jsut a computer i got sitting in the corner don't raelly use it since i just bought a new one02:15
iroxorsjuif i could just get my games going i would be all about this linux thing02:16
iroxorsjui am at least learning even if i don't use it02:16
vgemichaelpo: basically all ID software FPS:s or their offsprings02:18
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michaelpovge: not in synaptics?02:19
iroxorsjuwhats that?02:19
vgenot free ones02:20
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vgewell, enemy territory is02:20
iroxorsjui mess with Vanguard02:20
Jucatowhat's what?02:20
iroxorsjuhaha02:20
iroxorsjuno idea02:20
iroxorsjuhmm enemy territory02:20
vgemichaelpo: and eaven thou quake2 can be found in repos, you still need the actual data files to play it02:20
iroxorsjui havne't played that in ages02:20
vgeiroxorsju: well, i havent playd for ages :)02:21
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Andrew_0hey hey could someone help me get connected to my Apple wireless keyboard?02:21
gnomefreakvge: isnt quake2-data a depend of quake?02:21
Andrew_0someone who understands bluez-utils & kbluetoothd02:21
Andrew_0I'm in hidd --search * hcitool etc hell at the moment ;)02:21
vgegnomefreak: actually im not 100%, ill check02:22
gnomefreakyep it is02:22
Andrew_0upgrading from dapper -> edgy screwed my bluetooth setup, so trying to fix it.02:22
gnomefreakvge: apt-cache show shows it as one02:22
vgeget the descriptions of that paggage,  it says something different if im not mistaken02:23
vgewell, i donno anymore02:24
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Andrew_0nobody here knows about bluetooth + kubuntu :( ?02:26
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Andrew_0any ideas what channels I could try?02:26
Andrew_0a bluez-utils channel would be ideal02:26
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ForgeAusI know kubuntu has some progs for bluetooth by default02:26
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JucatoI know just a bit about bluetooth + kubuntu, but everything just worked out of the box...02:27
fernando_I have install windows vista, and know I can se the list to select the OS....02:27
fernando_how can I reinstall only grub???02:27
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fernando_without to reinstall kubuntu???02:27
Jucato!grub02:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:28
fernando_now.. i cann't see..02:28
Jucatofernando_: one of those pages might have an answer02:28
fernando_okis..thanks.jucato02:28
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michaelpo i cant find the .deb file for alienarena02:31
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vgemichaelpo: have u tested http://www.princessleia.com/UT.php ?02:34
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michaelpovge: nope...02:34
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BluesKajHowdy02:37
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michaelpoim tired.... will try finding fps and installing it another day..... bedtime... good night...02:38
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dick_turpinHi, Is it possible to upgrade/replace Mepis with Kubuntu via apt-get?02:46
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Jucatodick_turpin: #mepislovers02:46
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BluesKajJucato, have you tried mepis ?02:48
Jucatowhen MEPIS 6.0 first came out02:49
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dick_turpinJucato: Its for my girls and they prefer Ubuntu/Kubuntu02:51
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Jucatodick_turpin: ah... I'm not sure that would be easy to do02:51
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eeanI installed htdig and still htsearch isn't found by kdevelop.02:52
eeanany ideas?02:52
eeandick_turpin: sounds ill-advised :)02:53
eeandick_turpin: why its good to keep / on a seperate partition from /home02:53
alexiconis there an apt flag that gives a bit more package information02:53
xenolplz where can i DL br2684ctl for amd64 kubuntu 6.06? plz02:54
eean(my prob is solved at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107714 )02:54
dick_turpinIts the Fujitsu Amelo D-7830 thats giving me trouble, its a fresh install on a clean HDD02:54
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reagleBRKLNi'm using kubuntu edgy with 2.6.17-10-generic  kernel, and want to build a 2.6.20. But i'm having trouble with my booting on my SATA drives. I have a Dell e520 with a Serial ATA AHCI Bios version iSrc, which module do I use?02:58
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econthrustthere are notices that 2.6.20 kernel is buggy and/or not compatible with some HW...use with care02:59
BluesKajreagleBRKLN, one question , ... Why?02:59
reagleBRKLNBlack5un: couple of reasons, try kvm, beryl, etc.03:00
dick_turpinThanks anyway it was worth asking03:01
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xenolhow can i run draytek vigor318 modem on dapper plz?03:02
BluesKajberyl is buggy at best even on edgy03:02
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atidemhello03:05
reagleBRKLNtrying ahci03:07
BluesKajheh, i wonder what atidem question is about ? :)03:07
atidemBluesKaj: no question03:07
xenolcan someone help me to r un vigor318 modem?03:10
guidenhi, I want to programs programs in kde03:12
guidenprogram03:12
guidenwhat should I do03:13
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Jack001Has have installed berkeley DB?03:20
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thompai cant seem to access port 8443 on a remote server?03:24
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andy_0Hi, does anyone here know about BLUETOOTH on Kubuntu, or which channel I could try for some assistance?03:24
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thompaandy_0: install bluetooth tools, obix stuff etc if its not there already03:25
Jack001Has have installed berkeley DB?03:25
andy_0thompa: um, my problem is really quite unique, and would requirwe somebody to know quite a lot about bluez-utils I think03:25
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andy_0My problem isn't just a "I haven't instaled the necessary packages"03:26
andy_0Basically from Dapper-> Edgy I now get this hci_acldata_packet: hci0 ACL packet for unknown connection handle 7 appearing in my DMESG03:26
thompaandy_0: i just use mine for phone and palm synching, dont know about anything else03:26
andy_0sure thompa03:27
andy_0hopefully someone here might know where I can get help03:27
andy_0I've tried #bluez, it seems not active03:27
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thompadoes anyone know why i cant access :8443 port in browser, it works on main box but not laptop?03:33
The_Machinehow can i use ntfs-3g to read the filesystem of a USB2 external hdd w/ NTFS as the FS on it?03:34
The_Machinei don't get how to do it w/ USB drives03:34
The_Machine(I do understand internal ones)03:34
xenol!ntfs03:34
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:34
The_Machine!ntfs-3g03:34
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)03:34
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incorrectk3b keeps trying to use /dev/sg not /dev/scd003:36
incorrecthow can i force it to use the right device03:37
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MidMarkhi, I've enabled zeroconf, but I cannot see anything that I shared, what I have to do?03:45
MidMarkI've two computer in the same lan03:45
hellcattravhey folks03:46
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MidMarkI've to install nfs?03:46
hellcattravive a question, i can access my windows file under /media and i want to listen to my mp3's what do i have to do-03:47
psb154!nfs03:48
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.03:48
psb154!mp303:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:48
psb1548-)03:48
hellcattravhanx03:49
MidMarkpsb154: nfs is needed to share folders between 2 linux?03:49
psb154samba is prolly simpler.03:50
psb154!smb03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
psb154!samba03:50
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:50
MidMarksamba betweenn two linux?03:50
psb154sure03:50
hellcattravif im running kubuntu how do i add the repositories?03:50
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MidMarkadept->manage repo03:50
MidMarkpsb154: ok03:51
hellcattravamarok aksed me to input password to dowload restricted files, but i don't think it updates03:51
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hellcattravok im at the adept--> manage reposoitores, wheere should i go know?03:52
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MidMarkhellcattrav: enable all repo that are disabled03:53
MidMarkright click -> enable03:53
MidMarkthen apply and fecth update or something similar03:53
hellcattravthe greyed out ones?03:54
hellcattravand how do i know i which one is the one I'd want?03:55
MidMarkyes, only ones that match with an url, no ones with comments03:55
MidMarksee the wiki link provided ^03:55
hellcattravyeha thanks03:55
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MidMarkhellcattrav: I suggest you to use Synaptic (from Ubuntu) rather than adept, synaptic does the same things than adept, but I think it's easier and better, you can install it from adept03:56
MidMarkyou can have both of course installed03:56
hellcattravif i installed the ubuntu desktop, would it have synaptic with that?03:57
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hellcattravnevermind03:58
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hellcattravi answered my own question03:58
benkong2Hello all, I think I must have made a mistake. my kubuntu partition was 55GB I had an extra 120GB empty part and so I used gparted and resized. However it still shows 55GB what did I do wrong?04:00
benkong2df -h shows 55GB gparted shows 177GB04:00
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psb154benkong2 what does   df -a   show?04:02
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benkong255GB with 87% used04:02
Johny_!mplayer|johny_04:02
The_Machineokay, i've read the mounting NTFS partitions stuff that people !ntfs etc. to me04:03
Johny_!mplayer04:03
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile04:03
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.04:03
benkong2I ran reiserfs_chk and it reported all ok04:03
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benkong2that was reiserfsck04:03
ForgeAushellcat you can install synaptic into kubuntu but no its not installed by default04:04
hellcattravok im in synaptic what am i looking for?04:04
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psb154benkong2 does: cat /ect/fstab show other hd?04:05
Johny_Hey is there any way to launch a movie with mplayer from a full terminal session?04:05
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benkong2yes it does. It shows my second HD 60GB and it shows the partitions for /home and /media/windows NTFS and /media/share fat3204:06
mshadeJohny_: you want to launch it in another X session? or in the console..04:06
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Johny_mshade: In the full console ( alt+f1)04:08
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mshadeyou could play it with aalib04:08
mshademplayer -vo aa filename.mpg04:08
benkong2Ok now reiserfsck  --check reports Bad root block 0. What do I need to do04:08
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mshadethe problem is, you've got no real interface to the graphics card.  VGAlib might do it, but you'd have to run as root04:09
psb154benkong2 if you are sure that the partition exists and has been formated couldn't you simply add it to your /etc/fstab04:09
PhinnFort!kickoff04:09
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benkong2psb154: I am using the partition now. It is my / partition that I installed kubuntu in04:10
benkong2I resized it and now it does not show the increased size04:10
psb154i see04:10
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psb154you've rebooted your brains out I assume?04:10
benkong2psb154: yes I have warm and cold boots04:11
animimotushi04:11
benkong2I have also run all reiserfs tools04:11
jhutchinsSuSE is attempting to replace KDE?04:11
benkong2All I know to do now is reinstall04:11
psb154if you run qparted or whatever it was again now what does it say04:11
jhutchinsOh, just the menu.04:11
benkong2and use ext3 for all my linux FS04:11
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atidemJohny_: $ mplayer -vo fbdev file04:12
psb154benkong2 if you run qparted or whatever it was again now what does it say04:12
jhutchinsbenkong2: What did you use to resize it?04:12
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Johny_!fbdev04:13
benkong2gparted. I booted from a gparted CD and resized the /dev/hda3 partition04:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fbdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:13
benkong2I will reboot using the CD and see what it says.04:13
animimotusplease, someone has an url to indicate in Adblock module for Konqueror ?04:13
Johny_atidem: thanks, I'll give a try04:13
atidemJohny_: you are welcome04:14
psb154benkong2 you can sudo apt-get install gparted04:14
benkong2psb154: yes I can but don't I need to unmount the partition before trying it?04:14
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psb154benkong2 not just to view the partitioning04:15
benkong2ok hold on04:15
psb154benkong2 whatever you feel comfortable with.04:15
blue|palmIs it at all possible to put different superkaramba objects onto different sides of a beryl cube?04:16
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benkong2psb154: funny it shows the 177GB partition04:21
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benkong2psb154: it also shows 170GB used I know that's not true04:22
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Dr_willisall righty - dare i update the kernel packages now? :)04:23
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psb154benkong2 oh dear. It does sound like the resize process didn't work properly.04:24
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benkong2yeah, that's what I suspected04:24
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benkong2ok BRB I am going to backup and reinstall see ya later and thanks04:24
psb154benkong2 good luck.04:25
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hellcattravhey firefox keeps closing on me when i go to yahoo04:32
hellcattravi try to sign in to my email and it just closes04:32
hellcattravanyone know why?04:32
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xenol!msg  ubotu !bestsoftware04:39
LjL /msg ubotu best04:40
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eeosdoes anyone know if portaudio is compiled with alsa support?04:43
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CaptainApathyquick question:  if I want the power manager from Feisty Fawn, is there a way to install it?04:45
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CaptainApathywithout installing the full system04:45
HymnToLifeI doubt it04:46
HymnToLifemaybe get the sources packages and compile them on your Edgy04:47
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HymnToLifebut the feisty packages definitely won't work04:47
CaptainApathyhm.... I see..04:47
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brettis there a good channel to go to for help with java coding? they wont let me into#java because my nick isn't registered04:49
Jucato!register | brett04:49
ubotubrett: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration04:49
brettjucato how quickly can i get registered?04:49
CaptainApathythey normally try to make it fairly easy to register04:50
Jucatobrett: that page has instructions04:50
brettok.. thanks04:50
Jucato /msg nickserv register <password>04:50
Jucatojust check it04:50
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bretthow do i change my handle?04:52
brettwhat is the command04:52
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Johny_mshade: Hey the command you gave me doesn't work04:53
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Johny_mshade:sorry it wasn't you04:54
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newname /nick newname04:54
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BrettVthanks04:54
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BrettVthanks guys04:55
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MidMarkpsb154: I cannot access to samba's other pc, it always timeout04:57
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MidMarkboth have the same workgroup, I have create a user in my samba, choosen a shared dir...04:57
MidMarkwhat I'm missing?04:57
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CaptainApathyMidMark:  does the Firewall let the connection in?04:58
eeosdoes anyone know if portaudio is compiled with alsa support?04:58
psb154MidMark have you: smbpasswd04:58
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MidMarkpsb154: yes smbpasswd -a <user>04:58
MidMarkCaptainApathy: which firewall?04:59
MidMarkthis works with one windows and one linux, but not with two linux04:59
CaptainApathyon the computer that is serving the samba share?04:59
MidMarkCaptainApathy: I haven't a firewall here04:59
psb154MidMark tell me if this link helps: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12735.msg50821#msg5082104:59
MidMarkI can view other pc, but when I click to view shared folder -> timeout05:01
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MidMarksmbfs should be installed?05:01
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psb154MidMark what you describe is symptomatic of not setting up an smb user. The smb user name must be the name and password of a user on the computer you wish to connect to.05:03
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MidMarkpsb154: I know, but I created! should I reboot?05:03
psb154no05:04
psb154MidMark then permissions on the other computer...05:04
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psb154MidMark how are you creating the shares?05:04
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MidMarkright click on the folder -> share with samba05:05
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eeoshow do you change festival start up settings? the man page is useless.05:05
KubunlostHi everyone05:05
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Kubunlost I just lost my favorite kubuntu application :(   Kaffeine player, it refused to start up ... any idea ?05:06
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MidMarkpsb154: kubuntu has a firewall to be set?05:08
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psb154MidMark not be default.05:09
zobolococoguys if i use qtparted and format a partition (ntfs) to fat32 will the content be erased?05:09
Biovoreyes05:09
MidMarkso don't know why doesn't work!05:09
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LjLzobolococo: err... formatting *always* mean that the contents is erased05:09
psb154MidMark the folder you are trying to browse is it in a permissions-restricted directory?05:09
LjLnot securely erased, mind you, but erased05:09
zobolococohow can i transform a ntfs partition to a fat32 without erasing its content?05:10
LjLzobolococo: you probably can't05:10
LjL!convertfs05:10
KubunlostI want my Kaffeine back :(  please help05:10
ubotuconvertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB05:10
LjLthis is an (unsafe, and probably not going to work) possibility05:10
MidMarkit my home under ext305:10
Kubunlost I can't survive without my daily dose of kaffeine :)05:10
LjLactually, it *certainly* won't work with NTFS, so don't even bother05:10
SlackRatzobo, u cant05:10
LjLjust backup and restore05:10
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psb154MidMark as an experiment create a director in root / and then: sudo chmod 777 newDir05:10
zobolococowith norton partition magic you can05:11
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zobolococobut i cant install it here05:11
zobolococothe thing is i am runnong05:11
SlackRatwhere'd  your caffeine go?05:11
zobolococorunning bitdefender livecd05:11
psb154MidMark then make it a share and attempt to connect to it and create a text file in it05:11
zobolococolol its the stupid keyboard... it has the return key on enter place :|05:11
SlackRatoops freudian slip, i meant kaffeine05:11
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SlackRatheh05:12
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MidMarkpsb154: using ip instead of pc names it works, so it can be naming resolution05:14
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psb154MidMark, prolly just need to add the puter in your /etc/hosts file05:15
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BrettVi am attempting to install the jdk through adept... it has been stuck on 23% for ten minutes. I clicked show details and I see a screen that looks like it is waiting for me to click an ok button05:16
MidMarkpsb154: there isn't a graphical way to do that?05:16
MidMarkjust to know05:16
BrettVis there something that i need to do?05:17
SlackRatBrett Adept can take some time, Java tools are a bit large...05:17
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psb154Oh yes, konqueror: smb://192.168.0.1/sharName05:17
CaptainApathywooo sound is working again...05:17
CaptainApathyI think... I'm not going to test it during class.... >_>05:18
psb154MidMark from konqueror: smb://192.168.0.1/sharName05:18
psb154MidMark obviously change the ip for puter name or other ip 8-)05:18
MidMarkok but I want to say that is there a graphical way to add to hosts file the pc05:19
psb154System settings05:19
CaptainApathykwrite? :P05:19
CaptainApathyoh05:19
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MidMarkpsb154: where in System Settings?05:20
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bdmurrayIs there a way to manually save my KDE session without logging out?  I have set up my session the way I want it but X ocassionally dies on me.05:21
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BrettVi think it wants me to push ok05:21
psb154Under networking, select your network device I believe. Mine right now is doing that thing where it wont prompt me for Administrator password.05:21
waylandbillbdmurray: if x dies, it goes back to  the last time you did log out, so make you once you have it set up, that you log out once... if you're crashing X alot anyway.05:22
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bdmurraywaylandbill: I'd rather not log out though.  Is there any way to manually save the session?05:22
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waylandbillbdmurray: I'd look at .kde/Autostart05:23
Johny_some e-mail clients working in the full console mode?05:23
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bdmurraywaylandbill: okay thanks05:24
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waylandbillis it possible to submit instructions for setting up a wireless card to the (K)ubuntu documentation? They don't seem to have my card and it's a few steps to set up. Can't edit the wiki though for some reason.05:26
mshade!mud05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
waylandbillI'm talking community documentation of course.05:27
mshadeanyone know of a good mud client for kubuntu?05:27
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waylandbillnever mind. I can edit the wiki now. must be not logged in before. :-)05:29
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geniusvicksi keep betting a message saying "adept manager" is aldready opened so I cant use the new window. But I have restarted several times to no avail05:33
Cuddles_in_KYanyone awake?05:34
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SlackRatdefine awake.... :p05:35
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geniusvicksanyone ? help05:35
SlackRatfirst check kystemguard and make sure you dont have several adept sessions running now05:36
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psb154geniusvicks, you have a 'lock' file open somewhere. cd to /etc/apt05:37
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Cuddles_in_KYcorrection, the ethernet is realtek rtl821105:40
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krawekhi julianad05:40
psb154geniusvicks actually check your /var/lib/dpkg directory. Is there a 'lock' file in there?05:41
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geniusvickspsb154 ya. What hpnd wuz, the aptget stuck when I wuz installing java. After that it aint working05:42
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waylandbillgeniusvicks: probably was looking for you to accept the license. Install java using apt-get or aptitude on the command line.05:43
waylandbill(after removing the lock)05:43
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geniusvickswaylandbill, what is teh command. Also how do I include the plugin for "konqueror" ?05:44
geniusvicks*the05:44
geniusvicksbtw, how do I make double click as the method to open files and not single click05:44
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waylandbillkpersonalizer will help with that05:45
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slyfoxWhy is it that every time I start Kopete it asks me for all my account passwords? I checked for it rto remember passwords and Kwallet is running... ?05:46
waylandbillI installed sun-java6-plugin when I installed java. It's in the multiverse.05:46
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jhutchinsslyfox: password saving appears to be somewhat broken in the current kubuntu.05:48
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jhutchinsslyfox: I don't run kwallet, but kmail asks for every password everytime, including the kwallet password.05:48
jhutchinsslyfox: I tell it to save without using kwallet, it says ok and ignores me.05:49
slyfoxjhutchins: this sucks05:49
jhutchinsI think somebody tried to force the system to use kwallet and broke stuff.05:49
jhutchinsslyfox: File a bugreport.05:49
jhutchinsslyfox: Or if there's already a bugreport, vote for it.05:49
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geniusvickswaylandbill, what is the command to install sun java?05:51
slyfoxjhutchins: not sure if Kwallet i a good idea at all, I like when applications themselfe rememmber passwords05:51
jhutchinsslyfox: I prefer that myself.05:51
waylandbillgeniusvicks: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin    that's what I did.05:51
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jhutchinswallet is to windows for me.05:51
Johny_some e-mail clients working in the full console mode?05:51
dwidmannslyfox: there are some interesting things you can do with kwallet though05:52
psb154geniusvick, System Settings > Mouse > General tab    will allow you to set the number of mouse clicks.05:52
montca48[] [watis you name05:52
Tm_TJohny_: mail, pine, mutt, just to name a few.05:52
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waylandbillconceptually you could backup all your passwords by backing up kwallet's data files. I think that's one of the fundamentals of it. Sucks when it doesn't work though05:52
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slyfoxdwidmann: liek that ?05:52
dwidmannHave a master password you can remember .... and randomly generate passwords that can only be broken through brute force05:52
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dwidmannAnother way of handling k-wallet is to have your kwallet password blank, then it won't prompt you for the password every time05:54
Johny_Tm_T:Thanks. Do they act like clients or only as serwers?05:54
Johny_servers05:54
jhutchinswaylandbill: Think of it as a single point of critical failure.05:54
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montca48what's up jordo?05:54
jhutchinsJohny_: Eh?  Clients.  Kmail/korganizer05:55
waylandbilldwidmann: if your system is physically secure, you could forgo the master password yes.05:55
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Tm_TJohny_: Clients ofcourse05:55
Johny_jhutchins: no, no I just wanted a console working client in the text mode to organize my mails05:56
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adrian_hHelp! My keyboard stopped working. I'm running Kubuntu 6.06. All of a sudden my keyboard is no longer responsive, although my mouse still works.05:56
jhutchinsJohny_: Oh.  I like pine.05:56
montca48pine?05:56
jhutchinsJohny_: A lot of people like mutt, but I find it's configuration relatively opaque.05:57
waylandbillpine is not elm.05:57
Johny_jhutchins: what client would you reccomend?05:57
jhutchinsJohny_: mail is a pretty minimal client, but it works.  Handy for command-line mailing.05:57
jhutchinsJohny_: pine.05:57
jhutchinsJohny_: I have and use both pine and mail on almost all of my systems.05:57
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Johny_jhutchins: ok, I'll try05:58
jhutchinsmail may be distributed as nail, that's what Mandriva uses.05:58
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waylandbillmail is good for scripting when you need to write mail to many users (organizational, not spam of course)05:58
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jhutchinsYeah, send monitoring reports, etc.05:58
montca48pine?05:59
jhutchinsGreat for emergency pages.05:59
MidMarkpsb154: ok now with a computer I can see the other but the countrary is: I can see folders, but when I access then it say "dir not exist" without asking for name and password at all05:59
Johny_!pine|montca4805:59
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
waylandbillmontca48: pine is not elm. (that's what the acronym stands for) elm replacement.\05:59
MidMarkhow can I force to ask me the password?05:59
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jhutchinsSebby2oo7: en06:00
Sebby2oo7vorbiti romana06:00
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jhutchins!ro > Sebby2oo706:00
Sebby2oo7?06:00
Sebby2oo7huh06:00
Sebby2oo7?06:00
Sebby2oo7!ro06:00
ubotuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro06:00
jhutchinsMidMark: What are you sharing folders with?  ntfs or samba?06:01
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jhutchinser, s/ntfs/nfs/.06:01
Dave007hi06:01
MidMarksamba06:01
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Dave007ich htte eine frage06:02
jhutchinsMidMark: Have a look at the "user" definition for the share.06:02
stamenhi06:02
MidMarkI have created user in both pc, what do you mean06:02
stamenhow to mount usb stick06:02
jhutchinsDave007: Sorry, my german's really rusty.06:02
waylandbilldid you add yourself to samba? i.e. smbpasswd06:02
jhutchins!de | Dave00706:02
ubotuDave007: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:02
Dave007do you speak english06:02
MidMarkstamen: put it06:02
stamenwhere to look06:02
stamenyes I insert it but nothing06:03
MidMarkntfs?06:03
jhutchinsstamen: Yeah, some of 'em don't seem to detect correctly.06:03
stamenafter lsusb it founds it, but it isn't mountesd06:03
jhutchinsMidMark: typo.06:03
MidMarkjhutchins: what?06:03
jhutchinsMidMark: n'mind.06:03
Dave007i have a question?06:03
stamenjhutchins:  bulgarin li si06:03
jhutchinsstamen: Is the stick formatted with ntfs?06:03
waylandbillhaving a unix user doesnt necessarily mean you have a samba user. at some point, one of the dialogs should be calling smbpasswd to add the user to the samba database.06:04
stamenactualy it is my phone06:04
stamen:)06:04
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jhutchinsstamen: korganizer might find and mount it correctly then.06:04
MidMarkwaylandbill: ok I know and I repeat that I have created the user with smbpasswd -a <user> but it doesn't ask for it!!!06:04
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stamenI will install it, an I will try06:04
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MidMarkwhen I access with smb:/ in konqueror i can see pc, I can view shared folders but I cannot enter because it doesn't ask for user&passw06:05
stamenif it is listed in /dev for what I have to look06:05
stamenas a device06:05
waylandbillMidMark: ok. I understand06:05
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jhutchinsstamen: Most likely it's /dev/sda06:05
jhutchinsstamen: Unless you already have /dev/sda06:05
stamenbut there is no thing like this :(06:05
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waylandbillMidMark: you could try using smb4k and see if it prompts for the password.06:06
jhutchinsstamen: Do dmesg or /var/log/messages say what the device is?06:06
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Dave007how can i link mei notebook (with kubuntu) to a modem06:06
stamenjhutchins: the device is my phone with memorry card06:06
MidMarkwaylandbill: smb4k is a program?06:06
jhutchinsMidMark: I think you might be able to use a url like smb://user:password@host06:06
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stamenjhutchins: and it is conected thrue USB06:06
waylandbillMidMark: yes. you'd need to apt-get it06:07
jhutchinsstamen: right.  GO to a console and type dmesg, see if you recognize anything useful.06:07
BluesKaj!smb4k06:07
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB06:07
MidMarkjhutchins: try, but I cannot understand why in one pc it's ok in the other with the same kubuntu nope06:07
MidMarktry smb4k06:07
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jhutchinsMidMark: different cookies.06:08
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stamenjhutchins: I think I saw where is the prob.06:08
stamenI have recompiled the kernel, and I have removed SCSI support, and the problem is from this06:08
stamenjhutchins: am I wright06:09
jhutchinsstamen: Yes, most USB storage devices are mounted using scsi emulation.06:10
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stamenjhutchins: and they want SCSI support, are they?06:11
jhutchinsstamen: Yes.06:11
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jhutchinsstamen: scsi support may help with CD/DVD support as well.06:12
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stamenjhutchins: ok06:12
stamenjhutchins: I will recompile06:12
BluesKajis there such a program that does text character recognition... I have an old document that i'm trying to scan , but the legibility is compromised due to it's age ...does anyone know if such program even exists ?06:12
jhutchinsstamen: Since it's modular, it won't load and take up memory unless it's needed, so it's fine to leave it enabled.06:12
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Yes.06:12
jhutchinsBluesKaj: sane should include ocr.06:13
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BluesKajocr ? is that what that is ? ...DOH !06:13
stamenjhutchins: ok06:13
BluesKajI have kooka06:13
stamen10x06:13
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BluesKajand it has ocr06:14
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jhutchinsThere's also gocr and ocrad.06:14
hattasomeone should write one and call it ocrap06:14
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BluesKajhatta, is it crap ?06:15
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MidMarkwaylandbill: with smb4k it ask for password but doesn't use it, it returns this error: "anonymous login successful, share dir doesn't exist"06:17
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MidMarkof course I don't know why anonimous login instead of user and password06:18
MidMarkseems it wants to use anonymous everytime06:18
BluesKajok MidMark open kcontrol and find samba in the list , in samba you will see an option to share folders each folder is password protected so it waill ask for your password for each folder or dir that you want to share , but only once , and that's it06:19
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psb154MidMark, you can set up your shares to be user specific or global.06:19
psb154or have I missed something, was away.06:19
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stamenjhutchins: does usb needs RAID06:20
MidMarkBluesKaj: try06:20
stamenjhutchins: I think it isn't06:20
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jhutchinsstamen: No, usb doesn't need raid.06:23
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guidenHELP!06:28
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guidenI want to programme qt stuff, but I don't know which package to install?06:29
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david#kubuntu-es06:37
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provolikhi to all06:39
CaptainApathyyo06:39
provolikIs there someone that can help me about scribus?06:39
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CaptainApathyI can't... have you asked in there chatroom?06:39
blue|palmhow do you make a folder writable by all applications?06:39
provolikNow I try06:40
hattachmod ugo+w folder06:40
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blue|palmhatta: can you do that from konqueror?06:40
CaptainApathyor chmod a+w folder06:40
CaptainApathy:P06:40
blue|palmCaptainApathy: Can you do that from konqueror06:40
hattadunno, I don't use it06:40
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jhutchinsblue|palm: No, console.06:40
blue|palmjhutchins: thanks06:40
hattaI'm sure it can be done through konq06:41
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jhutchinsfrom a GUI filemanager, it woudl probably be accomplished through right-click/properties.06:41
blue|palmjhutchins: tried it, didnt make a difference06:41
blue|palmjhutchins: maybe i need a sudo konqueror to be able to do that?06:41
hattayeah you have to be the owner of the directory in order to change its modes06:41
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jhutchinsblue|palm: Unless you own the files, probably.06:42
blue|palmjhutchins: i do06:42
jhutchinsblue|palm: Don't use sudo for running GUI apps though, use kdesu instead.06:42
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blue|palmjhutchins: gimp still cant overwrite the file though :(06:43
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blue|palmjhutchins: does it work recursively?06:43
jhutchins1)it's open for editing somewhere else, 2)it's still not set right.06:43
blue|palmjhutchins: does chmod work recursively through a folder06:43
jhutchinsblue|palm: It will work recursively.  chmod -R <mode> <location>06:43
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jhutchinschown might also be of interest.06:44
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blue|palmjhutchins: it didnt work recursively because when i went into the folder (subfolder of the one i ran chmod on) and then ran chmod ugo+w * it worked...06:45
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blue|palmjhutchins: oh it has to have -R thanks06:45
marcelloDoItBeTthi! i need a little help.. how can i see .wmv file with kaffeine?? thnks06:48
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jhutchinsmarcelloDoItBeTt: I don't know with kaffeine, but xine or mplayer should handle it.06:52
jhutchins!formats06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:52
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jhutchins!mp306:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:52
marcelloDoItBeTtthey don't in my kubuntu...06:52
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marcelloDoItBeTtwhere can i download em?06:52
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jhutchinsmarcelloDoItBeTt: see above06:53
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graftis there a way to make some patch requests for builds for feisty?06:54
grafti.e., there's this 'transparent konsole' patch that there's pretty much no reason not to include06:54
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maurograft: im not sure, but i odn thtink its possible, you might wanna ask a MOTU06:56
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parkerw207Is it possible to get speech recognition on linux ?07:02
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CaptainApathyparkerw207: probably.  I don't know what packages you would need to install though07:04
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parkerw207hmm i did instal what it hought was speech recognition but i couldnt findi it once it was installe dlol07:04
CaptainApathyhm... and it's not in the kde application list?07:05
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CaptainApathyor in the system settings?07:06
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parkerw207nope07:08
CaptainApathyhm... dunno then..07:08
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parkerw207its ok07:10
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david#kubuntu-es07:16
jhutchinsWell, let's see, there's a speech reccognition interface for amarok, so I'd say there's speech recognition on linux somewhere.07:16
tateHi, i have problems with my Inet connection. I have a 56 internal kbps modem and kubuntu don't recognize it, but ubuntu does. My first problem is that the app "KPPP (i guess)" didn't find the "resolv.conf" i need to create it, how can i do it? Is there any automatic modem search?07:16
surgyok guys i have 3 things i need to do, 1: i need to format my secondary hdd 2: i need to run a complete system check on my kubuntu operating system to fix any errors there 3: i need to make a 100% complete backup of my kubuntu hdd onto my secondary hdd07:16
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leccihi07:24
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leccihow i can compile a c++ file?07:24
niklashi07:24
hattagcc07:24
CaptainApathydo you have the g++ compiler?07:25
surgyanyone know the package name of the new sdl ?07:25
surgy!sdl07:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:25
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atphalixinstall base-utils pack07:26
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surgyatphalix: that will give me sdl 1.2+07:27
surgy?07:27
lecciyes i have the g++ compiler...07:27
CaptainApathylecci: then g++ filename.cpp07:27
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lecciok...try07:28
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jarinociao tutti!07:29
TessaHi, i have an Intel i915 graphics card. When i try to enable some GL screensavers, the screensaver itself just shows up in the upper part of the monitor. So i tried to look at my graphic hardware settings. i changed to administration mode and the window changed to a red frame but doesnt show any content. does anyone have an idea?07:29
leccity CaptainApathy!!!07:29
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surgyok when im compiling dosbox..... i got all the depencys right, ./configure goes through without errors..... then i tried ./make and it doesnt exsist :(07:31
surgyso now what?07:31
_Schlumpfsurgy: try make07:31
CaptainApathyyeah, just make07:31
surgycool thnx07:32
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surgyafter "make" what do i do?07:34
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surgyinstall-sh ?07:34
Tessamake install07:35
Tessasudo make install07:35
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surgyand then?07:35
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CaptainApathyuse the program07:35
X2BHey guys, I got one question: I wrote an init script to start lircd on my system and inserted it in /etc/init.d and with "update-rc.d scriptname defaults" I added it into the single rc.? dirs... So I got the links but it still won't work... What can I do?07:35
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Dr_willisbe sure its executable?07:36
osumhello07:36
Dr_willisid just toss the commands in the rc.local script myself.07:36
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Dr_willisbut im lazy07:36
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surgydr_willis: it works, my next question, is it installed in the source directory? or can i delete it? and if so will it mess it up to move the source directory?07:37
X2Bit is -rwxr-xr-x07:37
osum....test07:37
X2Bjust like all the others07:37
osumok, bye07:37
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AlllexHi everyone- I was just wandering, what's the best C++ compiler for Linux (kubuntu 6.10)07:37
Dr_willissurgy,  if you did a 'sudo make install' then it installed whever it was confgured to install to.07:37
X2BAlllex: gcc07:37
moparisthebestgcc Alllex07:37
X2Bg++07:37
AlllexThanks07:38
Dr_willisis there any otehr C compiler?07:38
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Dr_willisC++ even.. intel has some alternative dont they.. but other then that..07:38
surgydr_willis: i just ran ./configure with no parameters, how do i know where it was configured to install?07:38
Dr_willissurgy,  watch what happens when you did a  make install07:38
X2Bsurgy: Or run: ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`07:38
Dr_willisif it was a kde app.07:38
X2Bok sry ^^07:39
Dr_willisim not sure what hes compiling exactly. :) but X2B  suggestion is often needed to compule the kde themes and other kde apps.07:39
Dr_willisand get them to install to the right place07:39
surgydr_willis: thats alot..... any hints to narrow it down?07:39
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X2BWell I have never compiled anything else by myself ^^07:39
Dr_willissurgy,  i LOOK at the output and see where it installs to..07:40
surgyi have just compiled dosbox07:40
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Dr_willisif it installs to the wrong place i use the --prefix= option to fix it07:40
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surgydr_willis: im looking but it enters and leaves dozens of directories07:40
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Dr_willisoften i make things install to /home/myusername/opt07:40
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Dr_willissurgy,  and the path to these dirs are? /usr/???  /opt/???07:41
tateHi, i have problems with my Inet connection. I have a 56 internal kbps modem and kubuntu don't recognize it, but ubuntu does. My first problem is that the app "KPPP (i guess)" didn't find the "resolv.conf" i need to create it, how can i do it? Is there any automatic modem search?07:41
X2Bbut would rc.local work like a shell script?07:41
Dr_willisX2B,  it should. ive done a lot of things with rc.local07:41
Dr_willisX2B,  you dont need to use 'sudo whatever' in there either.07:41
surgymake[4] : Leaving directory `/home/surgy/Desktop/dosbox-0.65/src/hardware'07:41
X2Bok, i will try that thx07:41
AlllexGuys- do I just type in "gpp <filename>" into the cmd console? Because I'm getting alot of errors with my C++ files?07:41
surgyso it is installed in the source directory07:41
Alllexgcc*07:42
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Dr_willisif you did a make install it should be copying some stuff to /usr/bin most likely. or /usr/local/bin (also common)07:42
CaptainApathyAlllex: try g++07:42
AlllexCommand not find07:42
Dr_willisleaving --> it went to that dir.. and compiled stuff in there.. then went out and on to the next dir.07:42
Alllexgcc works- but has errors..07:42
CaptainApathydo you have a c++ compiler installed?07:43
AlllexYeah- that could be the prob..07:43
CaptainApathyok, install g++ :P07:43
AlllexThanks- I assumed Kubuntu had one installed seeing as the gcc command worked- but... Heh..07:43
CaptainApathygcc is standard for *nix, but not g++07:44
AlllexThat would explain07:44
AlllexTHanks07:44
tateWhy ubuntu recognize my internal modem and kubuntu don't?07:44
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atphalixI have a problem with the eagle-usb modem package shiped with ubuntu07:46
atphalixbut I sucessfully instaled the modem from source07:46
surgykewl moved directory and it works07:46
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Dr_willissurgy,  but is it using the version you compiled.. or the older version in the repos07:48
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surgydr_willis: what is the version in the repos?07:49
Dr_willis!find dosbox07:49
ubotuFound: dosbox07:49
Dr_willisyou decided to use the source.. befor checking if the repos were even up to date?07:49
Dr_willis!info dosbox07:49
ubotudosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB07:49
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surgylol it is up to date both repos and my compile07:50
Dr_williswhich seems to me TO be one of the few packages that is up to date...07:50
Dr_willis:)07:50
Dr_willisthats amazing..07:50
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surgydr_willis: i need to learn how to compile from source, so i chose a non essential thing :) and it turned out awsome07:50
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Dr_willismy system is so screwy right now - i cant even isntall a lot of the dev packages and stuff.07:51
atphalixDr_willis: it is the version that I compiled from the official eagle-usb site07:51
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surgydr_willis: how do i do a full system scan? im looking for something like scan disk07:52
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atphalixthe ubuntu package is broken07:52
Dr_willissurgy,  you are thinking in windows terms then.07:52
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Dr_willissurgy,  when the linux system boots.. if it finds problems - it 'should' fsck the drives thus 'scandisk'ing them for errors07:52
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surgydr_willis: not exactly every thirty restarts it forces this type of check07:52
Dr_willisit WILL scan if it finds a problem07:52
Dr_willisor it should. :)07:53
Dr_willisthe eveyr 30 is a 'force to check just in case' option.07:53
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surgyok07:53
mildnerhi07:53
surgynow whats a good program to format my secondary hdd?07:53
Dr_willisjust power off the system now with the disks all mounted.. and see what happens when you power up.07:53
mildnerwhere can I get help in german?07:53
pdinotoHi. Need help to diagnose a frecuent 1-2min desktop freeze on a Lenovo 3000 N100 laptop.07:53
Admiral_Chicago!dr07:53
Dr_willissurgy,  mkfs is 'the' program to format drives. :)  unles sya want a fancy gui/partition tool like qtparted07:54
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Admiral_Chicagono, tha's not it.07:54
Admiral_Chicago!dr07:54
Admiral_Chicagothe bots are going nuts...07:54
Dr_williswell you format 'filesystems' that you make on the drives by partitioning the drive with fdisk. or similer.07:54
atphalixor qtparted07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:55
surgydr_willis: you know i want the gui :)07:56
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Dr_willissurgy,  thats not what you asked for.. so Phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht07:56
Dr_willisi could of had the thing fdisked and formating by the time it tool ya to ask the question.. :)07:57
surgydr_willis: lol07:57
Dr_willisby the time the gui loaded even...07:57
surgydr_willis: what backup program do you suggest?07:57
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Dr_willisDepends on how/what your needs are - i tend to use 'mondo/mindi' to backup my whole system07:57
Dr_williswell work time for me. byee07:57
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surgydr_willis: i need something so that after i reinstall linux i can restore it to its exact condition as it is today with all my programs and everything07:58
surgyby :(07:58
jeff_HI, all.  Quick question about Kate and .kateproject files -- are they supported/used anymore?07:58
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jeff_Or has that functionality been kind of taken over by the sessions?07:59
atphalixsurgey: you need to save your disk to an iso image07:59
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surgyatphalix: you have a 40gb disk?08:02
rooianyone try triple boot on a macbookpro yet? (mac os x, win xp, kubuntu)08:03
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surgyatphalix: i just want to be able to make a complete backup and have a complete restore when i need it including my gui settings my drivers my fstab my movies everything08:03
blue|palmBeryl: when using CTRL + ALT + LMB to rotate the cube, the windows zoom off the surface (quite a distance for me) i would like to lessen the distance they come off the face of the cube, is it possible?08:03
surgyblue|palm: try #beryl08:03
blue|palmsurgy: no ones replying :( so i thought it try here08:04
blue|palmsurgy: thanks tho08:04
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Admiral_Chicagoblue|palm: #ubuntu-effects ?08:05
surgyblue|palm i tried beryl and didnt like it or i whould help you :( sorry and best of luck08:05
rooianyone install kubuntu using a swap file instead of a swap partition?08:05
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rooitrying this out but am unable to get around having to format /08:06
atphalixwhat about installing into an ext3 file instead of partition?!08:07
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blue|palmsurgy: thanks08:08
rooi?? didnt quite get ur question08:08
blue|palmAdmiral_Chicago: lol, the only guy responding in there doesnt know08:08
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rooii've got a single partition that im trying to install on08:08
rooihave created the swap file on it08:09
rooiand am not following the install gui08:09
rooiit gets to a point where you pick the mount / and the partition /dev/sda308:09
rooiit says you MUST reformat this, but if i do that then i lose my swap file08:10
rooiwondering if there is any way around this08:10
rooisorry, few lines up - i AM following the install giu08:10
rooigui too.08:10
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underdog5004is there a modifier for ls to view hidden files?08:11
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rooils -a08:12
rooiall hidden files with begin with a "."08:12
rooi".imahiddenfile"08:12
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MidMarkat the end with one computer it ask for user and password with smb4k but it totally doesn't care about that, so I resolved with smb://user:password@pc08:16
MidMarkbut I still don't know why one computer try always anonimity instead of asks for user and password and USE them08:17
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MidMarkwaylandbill: ^08:17
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MidMarkjhutchins: ^08:17
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nscad_nathananyone know if a firewall would block svn access?08:20
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Admiral_Chicagonscad_nathan: no it shouldn1t08:31
Admiral_Chicagoshouldnt*08:31
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cigahi08:32
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cigaI have a double layered DVD-RAM (9.4GB). how do I use it with kubuntu?08:32
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mXis it possible to make an installable preconfigured version of kubuntu?08:33
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soulrider!help08:36
soulrideris the bot gone08:36
soulrider?08:36
soulrideroh no08:36
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Admiral_Chicagosoulrider: yes08:37
Admiral_Chicagothere he is08:37
soulriderno, i dont need help08:37
soulriderahh :)08:37
soulrider!botsnack08:37
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soulrideri just cant live without this bot08:37
arriespbye people08:37
soulriderbye arriesp08:37
soulriderthe bot sint really responding08:37
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ubotuYum!08:38
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tino_hi all08:41
tino_I have a different question08:41
Admiral_Chicagoask08:41
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tino_I look to a app for show all exported functions of a shared library08:42
aseigonm08:43
nscad_nathanAdmiral_Chicago  - I'08:43
nscad_nathanI'm trying to check out from svn.skolelinux.org and it doesn't connect08:44
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nscad_nathanany ideas why that might be?08:44
tino_i have see the "Dependency walker" on windows08:44
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nscad_nathanI am behind a schools firewall, which is why I thought that might be it08:44
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Admiral_Chicagoi can ping it, so it's not down08:44
nscad_nathanblarghhh08:44
Admiral_Chicagothey might have blocked the port08:45
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tino_can everyone help me?08:45
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soulriderdo they ahve kubuntu at yoour school ? or is this your computer08:45
sittisaltino_: ask08:46
hattano, everyone can not help you08:46
hattasomeone can help you maybe08:46
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tino_Ok again. I have see on a windows client the App dependency walker and now i look on Ubuntu..08:47
sittisaltino_: if we don't know the question who can help you?08:47
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vontuxhow do I format a thumbdrive that is in a file format not automounted by ubuntu?08:48
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sturtsanyone have xgl going on kubuntu?08:48
sittisaltino_: if you are italian and you have some difficult to explain contact me in pvt...08:48
tino_sittisal: no i are a swiss :->08:49
sittisallol08:49
sittisaltino_: the question?08:50
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tino_sittistal: Do you have an idea?08:50
sittisalwhat is the app dependency walker?08:50
vontuxhow do I format a thumbdrive that is in a file format not automounted by ubuntu?08:51
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tino_sittisal:http://www.dependencywalker.com/08:51
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apollo2011I am having some trouble with the ubuntu repos. I am trying to install the kde-devel package, but it won't install because there are some package dependencies that are not going to be installed. Can someone help me?08:51
sturtsmount /dev/sda? /mnt/thumbdrive08:51
hattayou shouldn't format mounted volumes08:52
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sturtsapt-get build-dep xxx apollo08:52
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sittisaltino_: ok... now it's clear08:52
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sittisali don't know if exist any kind of this software for linux08:53
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dr_hhelo08:53
tino_oooh no.08:53
sittisalmaybe ld08:53
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sittisalyes...08:54
dr_5666666666666666666666666666666608:54
sittisaltry ld from shel with a linux app08:54
sittisalshell08:54
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tino_ld? Its not ldd?08:54
apollo2011sturts: I still get this output afterward: http://pastebin.com/88160508:55
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sturtsdid you get an error when you did build-dep?08:57
apollo2011no08:57
sturtstry that..08:57
apollo2011$ sudo apt-get build-dep kde-devel08:57
apollo2011Reading package lists... Done08:57
apollo2011Building dependency tree08:57
apollo2011Reading state information... Done08:57
apollo20110 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.08:57
apollo2011ksut@Playroom1-Kubuntu:/usr/local/src/kpilot$08:57
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vontuxhatta: lets say that the drive I am trying to format is not in a format recognized by ubuntu, will it be in /dev?08:58
sturtsyes08:58
Lynoureapollo2011: out of curiousity, are you on edgy or dapper?08:58
apollo2011edgy08:59
vontuxsturts: thankyou08:59
sturtsno prob08:59
Lynoureapollo2011: good (otherwise I would have told you kpilot is not syncing because of the kernel, not because of kpilot)08:59
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xubuntutesterhello09:00
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Lynourexubuntutester: there might be #xubuntu too, if you need it09:00
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apollo2011Lynoure: ur very observant to figure out I was working on fixing kpilot :-)  I am trying to follow the directions in Linux Journal on how to fix it, and it says you may need to install kde-devel and I got a make error saying I was missing kde development files so I went to install that package, and it won't install09:01
xubuntutesterin xubuntu they send me to here09:01
xubuntutesteri try to start kasablanca but every time he says09:01
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xubuntutester/usr/local/kde/bin/kasablanca09:02
xubuntutesterkasablanca: cannot connect to X server09:02
Lynoureapollo2011: What kind of problem you have with it? I cannot probably help much, but I want to know what else is wrong with the palm stuff.09:03
xubuntutesteri send ./configure ,make and make install as root09:03
apollo2011Lynoure: with installing kde-devel or with kpilot?09:03
Lynoureapollo2011: with kpilot09:03
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SolidSource!ICQ09:04
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.09:04
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casev01hi09:05
casev01how can i install qmake?09:05
casev01i need some repo?09:05
apollo2011Lynoure: I know I had it working awhile ago, but I stop using my Palm Tungsten T, so I have tried syncing in awhile. I want to start using it again so I started up kpilot and now everytime I sync, new stuff on the Palm gets synced to the PC, but not vice versa. Sometimes, the entry on the PDA gets deleted, while it is retained on the PC. I have found several complaints on the Internet that this is a bug in the current Ubuntu version of kpilot. Linux09:05
apollo2011 Journal now has a fix for it, but obviously, I can't compile the new kpilot until I have the proper packages installed.09:05
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sturtsanyone have xgl going?09:06
xubuntutesternoody a idea to my problem?09:06
Lynoureapollo2011: oh, that's irritating.09:06
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apollo2011Lynoure: If ur interesed, here is the Linux Journal piece: http://pastebin.com/881621 I also found a bug for the kde-devel package problem: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/7910109:08
casev01nobody knows...09:08
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Lynoureapollo2011: Good to hear it has been reported. Thanks09:09
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Hueyis there a way to find out which package was responsible for installing a certain file on the system?09:11
cigadpkg -S somefile09:11
rooiis there a workaround for doing the install and not formatting the partition?09:12
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Lynourecasev01: Did apt-cache search qmake  already/09:13
Lynoure?09:13
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marcelhi09:16
Lynourecasev01: If you have not, time to learn to use that command now :)09:16
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Lynourecasev01: then do apt-cache show thefirstpackagenameshown09:16
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marcelI am trying to install updates and I get a message "could not exec dpkg!"any ideas?09:17
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shadowhywindis there someway to limit a programs usage of ram?09:20
LjLshadowhywind: i don't know. there is a way to limit an *user's* usage of RAM, though09:21
shadowhywindi don't want to limit the user as a whole, just one program.. mostly just Wine, becuase it likes eating all my ram09:21
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XVampireXPeople, how can I change my accounts picture?09:22
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casev01it doesnt find any package :(09:25
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KiPSeRoN!vcd09:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:26
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casev01i found this... in spanish09:27
casev01http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/3233109:27
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soulridercasev01: do you speak spanish? if not i could translate for you09:27
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duckdownHi all.. I need help from someone who knows the SSH command pretty good, is there an ssh support channel anywehre09:29
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casev01yes09:30
casev01;)09:30
Lynoureduckdown: just ask the question?09:30
Lynoureduckdown: ssh is common, many people know it pretty good.09:31
duckdownI would need help from someone with PuTTY so I can show them what I mean :(  it's probably a very simple solution, regarding syntax09:31
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Lynourecasev01: It should find qt3-dev-tools09:31
duckdownI am using ssh -D#### to open a socks proxy from the host I SSH to, but in PuTTY i can click a box that says "allow outside users" as well, so another machine on my network can also use it.  But that port appears closed to anyone except that computer09:32
duckdownits just manipulating the ssh command some how to make it listen for all computers09:32
casev01yhx09:32
casev01thx09:32
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sturtsanyone running xgl?09:36
jhutchinsduckdown: What is it you're trying to do?09:36
duckdownokay09:36
jhutchinsduckdown: Do you want (all) other computers to be able to connect to your linux box?09:37
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HymnToLifesturts, help for XGL in #ubuntu-effects please09:37
duckdownya, if i have 2 computers, 'hive' and 'trace', then once 'hive' establishes an ssh connection to the vpn, hive can redirect applications to 'localhost:####' , but 'trace' cannot enter 'hive:####' because that port isn't listening to anybody except localhost09:38
duckdownin putty theres a little tick box09:38
duckdownthat makes it listen for all computers rather than just the localhost09:38
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duckdownim just using 'ssh -D#### my.outside.network.com'09:39
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lnxmomohi09:41
lnxmomoanyone hear?09:41
HymnToLifelnxmomo, about 350 people09:43
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casev01mm, someone knows how to install uira?09:46
hattaI know how to install ufia09:46
casev01ufia?09:46
hattait's a joke, nm09:46
casev01:s09:46
casev01xD09:46
lnxmomohi09:47
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atidemhello09:47
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lnxmomoi am using 64 bit and i cnt seem to install kde themes using kcontrol. it says theme has no preview and wont apply it. i am trying to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2757809:47
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lnxmomoi untarred this b4 anyone says anything09:48
sturtsI'm fucking bored09:48
LjL!ohmy09:48
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:48
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soulriderlol  LjL09:48
hattafamily friendly?  how does one get a family?09:49
hattadoesn't get much more friendly than that09:49
sturtshow many familys run linux?09:49
lnxmomomine does09:49
soulridersturts: lots09:49
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x_linkHi09:49
lnxmomoanyone answer my question?09:49
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gregdnot likely. svn over http is most common.09:51
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sturtshey look its a cock but its smaller09:51
MidMarkhi, someone know a program that can put a password into my pdf files?09:52
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sturtsgoogle midmark09:53
makudo i need to do anything special to get amarok to play audio cds?09:53
sturtsno09:53
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makumine wont recognize them09:53
MidMarksturts: wow I didn't know about google, now I will google about google09:53
MidMarkanyone else?09:53
omgponiezlolanyone else have issues updating python on dapper09:53
omgponiezloliirc, there was a fix for the edgy release09:54
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lnxmomocan anyone tell me how i can get a mac os launcher thing at the bottom of my screen,09:54
lnxmomonot a superkaramba one09:54
omgponiezlolalso, iirc the depends was python 2.4* not python 2.4=>09:54
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casev01i need a flash editor in linux09:55
casev01someone knows one?09:55
Lynourelnxmomo: mac os launcher? Are you serious?09:55
hellcattravi still can't figuire out the repositories to get amarok to play mp3's09:56
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xenol!source-o-matic09:56
hellcattravi looked with both synaptic and adept09:56
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:56
xenolwell build sources.lst on that link09:56
sturtswhat?09:56
xenolhellcattrav: i mean use  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic and u need to isntall libxine-extracodecs09:56
Lynourelnxmomo: You get that by installing mac os. It's not free software.09:56
hellcattravoh09:57
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hellcattravxenol: can i install that with adept or synaptic?09:57
atidemcasev01: f4l09:58
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hellcattravand i can't open that link09:58
hellcattraverror09:58
Vuenhi, has anyone managed to configure ktorrent to proxy tracker communications?09:58
Vuenit doesn't seem to want to do it here.09:58
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hellcattravnever mind09:58
javierhola canijos09:59
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hellcattravok should i include source repositories?10:00
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hellcattravok idk what im doing10:03
externwhat is the command to end a task?10:03
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atidemextern: kill10:03
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theD3viLwhy apollon dont want to connect to any gift-?[22:01:38]  (#) T@nChy (#) says:10:04
theD3viLpapa =**10:04
theD3viL[22:01:55]  theD3viL says:10:04
theD3viLna kaj ??10:04
theD3viL[22:02:51]  theD3viL says:10:04
theD3viLjs mam tud tebe rd ?!?!10:04
theD3viL[22:02:53]  theD3viL says:10:04
theD3viLna to?? =)10:04
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BastokBonjour10:04
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julleWhen i do a apt-get update it always hangs at 99% waiting for header, how do i fix this?10:06
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sturtsthis apt has super cow powers!10:07
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ricmikHi! Does anyone know how I get java to work i firefox on Kubuntu?10:08
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hellcattravhey if i name a file school year 2006-2007 would that cause problems? if theres spaces?10:08
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ricmikI have java-common installed10:09
zorglu_julle: seems a bad sources.list. one repository being unreachable10:09
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zorglu_!source | julle10:09
ubotujulle: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html10:09
dz70ftracker!easysource10:09
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:09
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dz70ftrackerthat might also be useful10:09
zorglu_julle: the link from dz70ftracker is likely more usefull indeed10:09
julledz70ftracker: and zorglu_ thank you all!10:10
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zorglu_!java | ricmik10:11
uboturicmik: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:11
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ricmikzorglu_: I've already installed java-common with apt-get.. Azureus works, but it doesn't look like Firefox knows that it's installed..?10:12
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zorglu_ricmik: you did what is explain on the page ?10:14
ricmikno, sorry10:14
ricmikI'll read it ;)10:14
zorglu_ricmik: good :)10:14
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externafter the fglrx driver update, glxinfo says "direct rendering: no", it should be yes10:45
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externwhat might be wrong?10:46
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AlllexHi everyone- I hopefully- have just installed GPP onto Kubuntu 6.1010:48
AlllexIs there anyway I can check if it has been succesful?10:48
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equinoxeBhy there...10:50
ereslibrehi... i have just installed kubuntu on my laptop (on desktop i have gentoo) and i wonder how to set up a wireless network with wpa protected password... i only can see wep...10:50
equinoxeBI can't manage to run XGL right...10:50
equinoxeBI have Beryl...10:51
equinoxeBand it's VERY SLOW10:51
NightBirdereslibre, me too :-\10:51
NightBirdequinoxeB, are you using ati?10:51
equinoxeByes...10:51
equinoxeB8.32 prop drivers10:51
equinoxeBinstalled ok...10:51
SpAwNanyone know of a free service like no-ip's port 80 redirect?....my isp blocks port 80 and id like to run apache on a off number port. but the no-ip service either uses my ip in the adress bar or puts a border around the page10:51
NightBirdok... are they actually working?10:51
equinoxeBwarcraft is workin' fine...10:52
equinoxeB:)10:52
AlllexHi everyone- I hopefully- have just installed GPP onto Kubuntu 6.1010:52
Alllex Is there anyway I can check if it has been succesful?10:52
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NightBirdso if you run fglrxinfo, it tells you you are using an OpenGL vendor string "ATI Technologies Inc."?10:53
equinoxeByes, it does10:53
NightBirdok, are you telling xgl to use screen 1?10:53
equinoxeBoh10:53
equinoxeBdamn10:53
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equinoxeBit doesn't anymore...10:53
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equinoxeBDAMN10:53
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NightBirdare you using xgl right now?10:54
equinoxeBno, kde...10:54
NightBirdif so, then that is probably expected...10:54
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equinoxeByup10:54
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equinoxeBit worked... :|10:54
NightBirdthe only reason why it wouldn't is because your graphics card supports multiple openGL instances...10:54
equinoxeBI had ATI :P10:54
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NightBirdok, you'll need to fix the driver problem first10:54
NightBird:P10:54
equinoxeBI think I get MESA everytime I'm running adept10:55
equinoxeBand full upgrade...10:55
equinoxeBguess it overwrites my drivers...10:55
NightBirdit shouldn't10:55
equinoxeBIs there a way to block MESA?10:55
NightBirdI would check dmesg for errors from the ati driver trying to start up10:55
equinoxeBI mean... kill.... destroy...10:56
equinoxeBsomething REASLLY BAD...10:56
equinoxeB:P10:56
NightBirdno, don't block mesa, just make sure ati works, and that it defaults to it10:56
equinoxeBI'll just reinstall the drivers... AGAIN... :|10:56
NightBirdno10:56
NightBirdcheck the messages10:56
NightBirdthere may be an message in there that tells you why it stoped working10:57
equinoxeBX logs?10:57
NightBirdmaybe, but try dmesg | grep fglrx10:57
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equinoxeBsomething about card not DRI capable...10:59
equinoxeBI'll reinstall :)10:59
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NightBirdok...10:59
equinoxeB10x man.10:59
equinoxeBI'll be back and worship (if it works L) )10:59
equinoxeB:)10:59
NightBirdI'm sure there is an easier way to do it then reinstalling, but if you want to do that, then have fun10:59
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equinoxeBI don't want to.10:59
NightBirdwell... maybe not easier.... but a better way maybe10:59
equinoxeBbut I don't have the master log skill :P11:00
surgyhow do i assign a particular partition to a mount point?11:00
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surgyi have a hard drive (sda) that i just formated and i saved my old mountpoint now i wish to remount the hdd to the old mountpoint how do i do this?11:01
NightBirdsurgy, I think you'll want to edit the /etc/fstab file11:02
surgynightbird, i assumed that, but what exactly do i add?11:02
NightBirdsurgy, I'm.... not sure... :P11:03
NightBirdcan you mount it normally?11:03
NightBirdlike kubuntu auto mounts filesystems to /media/*11:03
surgynightbird using the command sudo mount /storage            no becuase the new paritions are not set to the mount point /storage11:04
surgyhere is my fstab http://pastebin.com/881697 wanna take a look?11:05
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NightBirdok, do you know where the drive is located in the /dev/ directory?11:06
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surgynightbird: /dev/sda11:06
NightBirdok, have you tried mounting that to /storage?11:06
surgyhow?11:07
ricmikOne more question.. in Windows, backspace will navigate back in web-browsers (as well as shift-backspace navigates forward..) how can I change KDE to behave in the same way?11:07
xenolplz in this # chmod u+x /usr/sbin/stdsl.sh the # symbol means sudo?11:07
surgyxenol: no # means comment11:08
NightBirdtry "mount -t autofs /dev/sda /storage"11:08
NightBird(to surgy)11:08
NightBirdor if you know the file system, you can tell it to use that filesystem instead11:08
surgynightbird: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,11:08
NightBirdis sda the physical drive, or the partition?11:09
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surgynightbird let me verify that? will you pm me to keep clutter down?11:09
xenolsurgy: if i want to u se chmod i need to add it to stdsl.sh or just  type it to terminal?11:10
surgyxenol: got me there11:10
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xenolsurgy: my friend is having problems  with vigor318 adsl modem11:11
surgyxenol: never tried that i always had broadband......11:11
xenolsurgy: well i need some help # chmod u+x /usr/sbin/stdsl.sh so it start evrytime he starts his kubuntu i need to add this to the stdsl.sh with kate ?11:12
surgyxenol: like i said twice i dont know11:13
xenolsurgy: any ideas where i could get help plz?11:13
surgy!adsl11:14
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE11:14
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surgy!help11:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:14
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Starenadept says I have gcc installed -- How do I enable c++ support?11:17
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GretlStaren:  you called it with g++ ?11:18
ricmikare there any software that I can use to control CPU-speed on a Centrino processor?11:18
StarenI tried to compile a program I downloaded and it said cpp failed the sanity check.11:18
Starengoogle leads me to suspect this means c++ isn't enabled.11:19
TheDebuggerStaren: g++ :)11:19
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StarenI called it with ./configure11:19
Starenfor the program. I'll check what that called...11:19
Gretlyou have to install the essentials11:20
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Stareng++ says command not found.11:21
ken76ciao11:21
Starenadept says the gcc package is installed though.11:21
ken76hello!!!11:21
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GretlStaren: you have to install the essential building tools11:22
Gretllook in adept for the whole package11:22
jbrancostaren, you have to install g++11:22
Starenwhat is the package name? g++?11:22
jbrancoyes11:22
jbrancosearch for that11:22
StarenAh, thanks!11:23
mrb137anyone else running vmware with edgy run into a problem starting vmware server after latest linux-headers update?11:23
TheDebuggerStaren: No..11:23
TheDebuggerStaren: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:23
TheDebuggerStaren: This will install everything you need11:23
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StarenThanks! Now it says11:26
StarenErr, it worked, but now it says it can't find something else.11:26
Starenchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!11:26
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StarenX is a rather vague description for it to give me... What's X?11:27
cntbhowto bkp mbr and bootsector with dd command ?11:28
jbrancostaren: sorry can't help you there, once i downloaded g++ i was able to compile c++ programs without problems11:28
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dabearhi, ehm, do anyone know how i Can open links from chat to konqueror in a new tab, and not a new window?11:28
Gretlright click and select so11:28
dabearont work1