[12:16] <JoshH2k> Sorry, raylu
[12:16] <raylu> Not sure if this will help, JoshH2k, but it's what I got after accepting hlds's license agreement
[12:16] <JoshH2k> mIRC is set to auto-decline
[12:16] <JoshH2k> Lemme change that
[12:17] <JoshH2k> Okay; try again, please?
[12:17] <JoshH2k> arrrgh
[12:19] <JoshH2k> I turned it off....once...under XP....
[12:19] <Roey> hello again
[12:19] <JoshH2k> Try it now
[12:19] <Roey> so anyone have any ideas on how I can decipher this wifi problem
[12:20] <JoshH2k> Sorry, again please. >:(
[12:20] <JoshH2k> The reason I'm running Vista/XP on this machine is because I want to be able to access resources on my Linux box from the Internet, but I don't want to open up my Windows machine to the INTARWEB
[12:21] <raylu> Hm...a speedy 0b/s
[12:21] <JoshH2k> ...
[12:21] <JoshH2k> Connection failed on my end
[12:21] <raylu> BTW, where did you download your HLDSupdatetool to?
[12:21] <Slynderdale> !make
[12:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:21] <Minataku> JoshH2k: You're running Vista?
[12:21] <JoshH2k> raylu: /media/hda3
[12:22] <raylu> o.0? Why not somewhere like...~
[12:22] <Roey> India.
[12:22] <Roey> in India.
[12:22] <JoshH2k> Minataku - yes
[12:22] <Minataku> JoshH2k: Get out.
[12:22] <Minataku> j/k
[12:22] <Minataku> lol
[12:22] <Roey> arg, I'm on #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #wireless for close to an hour now and nobody even responds to me
[12:22] <Minataku> But seriously, are you cracked (in the head) or something?
[12:22] <JoshH2k> raylu - because hda3 is an empty partition to share information easily between my Kubuntu & Fedora installations
[12:22] <raylu> Roey, I tried, but I don't even have any ideas :P sorry
[12:22] <JoshH2k> Minataku - I got it for free through my university, and I'm going into the field of systems engineering. :P
[12:23] <Roey> raylu:  thanks for helping :)
[12:23] <JoshH2k> I'm going to see if it's the Windows firewall that's screwing things up, raylu
[12:23] <raylu> JoshH2k, hm...I still think it's worth a try sticking it in ~
[12:23] <JoshH2k> I'll try that
[12:24] <JoshH2k> That worked.
[12:24] <JoshH2k> For no damn reason.
[12:24] <JoshH2k> Seriously.  WTF?
[12:24] <Minataku> JoshH2k: Sorry... I can't imagine anyone sane willingly using Windows Vista for any reason other than masochistic pleasure
[12:25] <ubuntu_> hola
[12:25] <JoshH2k> It's not bad at all, Minataku.
[12:25] <JoshH2k> Granted, I wouldn't have installed it if it weren't free.
[12:25] <JoshH2k> But I'm graduating this semester, and having "Windows Vista (Business Edition)" on my resum is a big plus.
[12:26] <HymnToLife> I wouldn't install it even if it was free as in freedom :p
[12:26] <raylu> I would get it too, just to see how it is. I'm limited by HD space, though.
[12:26] <Minataku> JoshH2k: Not if I was reading your resume
[12:26] <JoshH2k> ...you'd consider it a minus?
[12:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Minataku: good yount.
[12:26] <raylu> we can add "curiosity" to the list of "masochistic pleasure"
[12:27] <Minataku> JoshH2k: I'd set it on fire, rub my hands with bleach then set the lighter I used to light the resume on fire
[12:27] <Admiral_Chicago> oops, i'm dyslexic. point
[12:27] <JoshH2k> Plus the Linux-like UAC is dandy.
[12:27] <Minataku> Hm... add an extra "on fire" to the end of that
[12:27] <raylu> uac = ?
[12:27] <JoshH2k> User Access Control
[12:28] <JoshH2k> Similar to sudo
[12:28] <JoshH2k> You can't make any system changes without logging in as an administrator
[12:28] <Minataku> JoshH2k: Of course it's nifty... it wasn't their idea
[12:28] <raylu> Oh yeah. My fried tried to read his xp partition with vista RC1 and it refreshed the screen twice for 2 dialogs for every folder he went into.
[12:28] <JoshH2k> Never said it was.  Thus, "Linux-like".  :P
[12:28] <raylu> But I'm guessing that was a misconfig.
[12:28] <JoshH2k> If I thought it was, I would have said how neat it is that Linux has that "Vista-like" function.
[12:28] <Minataku> raylu: Probably not
[12:29] <JoshH2k> raylu - I've not run into that problem
[12:29] <Minataku> raylu: Vista cooks video cards like delicious strips of bacon
[12:29] <JoshH2k> Mine's doing fine.
[12:29] <raylu> And we also encountered an irreproducible bug where
[12:29] <Minataku> Except burning epoxy and phenolic smell like absolute crap
[12:29] <raylu> another friend said "penis" into the voice recognition software and it crashed :P:
[12:29] <Minataku> raylu: lol
[12:30] <Minataku> Note I had to downplay what that smells like... not allowed to swear in here even when needed
[12:31] <Minataku> And trust me, when describing burning phenolic... it's needed
[12:33] <Minataku> Besides, unless it's Vista Ultimate you're just paying $300 for a half-assed XP service pack
[12:33] <raylu> Hm...does Kopete log conversations?
[12:33] <Minataku> And if it's Vista Ultimate that extra $100 gets you absolutely nothing useful whatsoever
[12:33] <JoshH2k> Uh?
[12:33] <JoshH2k> Vista has .NET 3.0 and DX10 - two things XP will not have
[12:34] <Minataku> Oh, except the DRM, copy protection and "security"
[12:34] <raylu> The problem I have with Vista is it seems to not be backwards compatable towards XP for some apps. Especially games
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> something GNU / Linux will never have
[12:34] <Minataku> Bingo, Admiral_Chicago
[12:34] <JoshH2k> Furthermore, Ultimate provides HD video editing software as well as software to interface with a 360.  Not something everyone needs, but not useless.
[12:34] <Minataku> Say, did you get voted in?
[12:34] <raylu> Now, does anyone know about Kopete logging?
[12:34] <JoshH2k> raylu - that's why I've done an XP/Vista dual-boot.
[12:34] <Minataku> JoshH2k: HD video encrypting software?
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Minataku: you asking mo?
[12:34] <Minataku> Useless
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> me*
[12:35] <Minataku> Admiral_Chicago: Yeah
[12:35] <JoshH2k> Minataku - why is it useless?
[12:35] <raylu> JoshH2k, I want to too, but that means I'd have xp + vista + linux triple boot...which is too much.
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Minataku: i got voted in as a member as of yesterday
[12:35] <Minataku> Admiral_Chicago: Cool
[12:35] <raylu> Member of?
[12:35] <Minataku> JoshH2k: I wouldn't trust Vista with ANY of my content
[12:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Ubunutu Member
[12:35] <raylu> o.0? What does that mean/give you?
[12:35] <Minataku> Lest it become DRM'd for some reason then suddenly it's not mine anymore
[12:36] <JoshH2k> What leads you to say that, Minataku?
[12:36] <Minataku> JoshH2k: Who knows what MS has up their sleeves
[12:37] <JoshH2k> So...you basically have no basis for your statement.
[12:37] <Branded_Atom> hahaha, how funny would that  be, eula: anything made using this software belongs to MS
[12:38] <Roey> sounds like a plan.
[12:38] <Minataku> Branded_Atom: It would be funny if it weren't for the fact that I wouldn't be surprised if they tried that
[12:38] <Branded_Atom> oh come on
[12:38] <Roey> Anyone else having difficulty getting a successful wifi connection with a d-link dwl-ag650 pcmcia card?
[12:38] <Branded_Atom> even the evil empire couldn't get away with THAT
[12:38] <Minataku> Branded_Atom: It wouldn't be that cut and dry, of course
[12:39] <raylu> That reminded me of
[12:39] <raylu> http://bash.org/?577451
[12:39] <Minataku> It would be more along the lines of it being automatically tainted with DRM then suddenly it's against the law to use your own property the way you want to because of the DRM applied
[12:42] <inteliwasp> what do i need to do to share a folder between 2 linux boxes?
[12:42] <Chousuke> NFS
[12:42] <Chousuke> or sshfs
[12:43] <inteliwasp> any gui based options?
[12:43] <raylu> Chousuke, which would you recommend?
[12:44] <Chousuke> of NFS and SSHFS? hmm.
[12:44] <Chousuke> I suppose NFS is better.
[12:44] <Chousuke> sshfs is kind of hack-ish
[12:44] <Minataku> NFS is more established
[12:44] <Chousuke> yeah.
[12:45] <Minataku> SSHFS is a FUSE thing, I believe
[12:45] <Chousuke> though I have the impression that many people hate it and think that it sucks
[12:45] <Chousuke> but many things suck, yet they're being used
[12:45] <Minataku> Chousuke: Like Vista
[12:45] <Chousuke> Minataku: I really don't know
[12:46] <Chousuke> I have yet to even see a box running windows vista.
[12:47] <Minataku> Unforunately, I don't
[12:47] <raylu> inteliwasp, you could use SSH, I think
[12:47] <Chousuke> NFS is relatively simple to set up
[12:47] <Minataku> Nor do I have yet to see someone falling all over themselves with ignorant love for it
[12:48] <Minataku> I'll stop now, though, sorry all for that
[12:49] <jsheedy> has anyone been able to install the googlebar extension for Firefox?
[12:50] <Chousuke> it's not GUI though, but it's not excruciatingly difficult if you're not scared to death by editing a few simple configs.
[12:50] <Chousuke> of*
[12:50] <Chousuke> !nfs
[12:50] <Chousuke> hmm.
[12:50] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:50] <inteliwasp> it's nice that the wiki is have more languages up, but it is annoying to click on a title that is English but the article is in another language
[12:50] <jsheedy> nm think I got it
[12:50] <Chousuke> inteliwasp: that isn't in english for you?
[12:51] <inteliwasp> i ment a few other wiki entries
[12:54] <frojnd> hello I need help. I need to convert 434 pages of pdf into odt or word
[12:55] <frojnd> how can I do this with pdftk utillity?
[12:55] <frojnd> is there some expert who knows how to do this
[12:59] <david_> #kubuntu-es
[01:00] <Branded_Atom> frojnd: i don't think pdftk can do that
[01:00] <frojnd> yeah, I just heard :s
[01:00] <frojnd> the problem is I tryed to convert it with Kword
[01:00] <nomad411> hi everyone.  A friend at work dropped his Presario 2100 on me today to fix his botched Kubuntu install
[01:00] <frojnd> bit the result wasn't that good
[01:00] <frojnd> some pages (pictures) are mixed up..
[01:00] <frojnd> :S
[01:00] <nomad411> Would anyone know of issues with Kubuntu on there before I spend time on it?
[01:01] <nomad411> I have so little of it. :(
[01:01] <flaccid> kubuntu has lots and lots of issues
[01:01] <flaccid> care to fix?
[01:01] <flaccid> !bugs
[01:01] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:02] <Branded_Atom> frojnd: there seems to be windows apps to do it
[01:02] <Branded_Atom> not so  much ubuntu
[01:02] <Branded_Atom> would html be ok?
[01:02] <frojnd> Branded_Atom: what windows apps?
[01:04] <Branded_Atom> pdf2soc, solid converter, i'm  seeing may be able to do what  you need
[01:07] <frojnd> !pdf200
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdf200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <veganri> hi, i'm using wine to run one of my apps and it says:
[01:15] <veganri> sorry there was a problem opening the profile "winefake" for display "x11 windowing system" please select a different profile using profile chooser (2)
[01:15] <veganri> anyone able to help please ?
[01:19] <veganri> can someone please help
[01:19] <frojnd> based on this plain, README txt, can someone tell me how to isntall pdf200: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5850/
[01:19] <tarelerulz> any of you installed wireless card and gotten it to work if so what did you use
[01:19] <frojnd> when I downloaded, pdf200 there was 3 files: LICENSE  pdf2oo  README
[01:20] <docMuerto> some send me on pastebin.ca the sources.list kubuntu Feisty please !!
[01:24] <Marise> TTTdoes any one know the name of the boot manager that's supposed to be faster than grub or lilo ?
[01:32] <Marise> Is there any boot loader faster than Grub ??
[01:32] <tarelerulz> I can see my wireless card ,but I can't connect to the open network at the library I did the auto settings
[01:34] <frojnd> this pdf200 is driving me crazy
[01:34] <frojnd> how can I isntall it
[01:35] <Branded_Atom> frojnd: get the packages it specifies
[01:35] <frojnd> yes, I got it
[01:35] <frojnd> but there isn't any pdf200
[01:35] <Branded_Atom> then put the thing into /usr/local/bin
[01:35] <Branded_Atom> you got ALL the packages in  the readme?
[01:36] <Branded_Atom> imagemagick, xpdf-utils etc...
[01:37] <frojnd> yes for fext mode
[01:37] <frojnd> gor GUI I  wasn't able to get kdelibs-bin
[01:37] <Branded_Atom> pdftoppm etc...
[01:38] <frojnd> well I was installing for debian
[01:39] <Branded_Atom> i'm not sure entirely, but i think everything under "command" means "generic"
[01:39] <frojnd> I tryed for command but it can' find the packages..
[01:41] <frojnd> arrh
[01:41] <frojnd> I need to conver pdf into odt :S
[01:41] <frojnd> I am so despered
[01:43] <aseigo> frojnd: depending on the pdf.. you could try opening it in kword (it does pdf import) and export to odf? i wonder if scribus has odf output.... hm.
[01:43] <dane> hello
[01:43] <dane> its my first time in hear
[01:44] <frojnd> aseigo: I tryed with Kword, it converted me in to odt, but the pages where hum, strange couse pictures inported from pdf were mixed.. covering each other.. and I have of 434 pages..
[01:44] <dane> in hear look cook
[01:44] <Branded_Atom> frojnd: would html be an acceptable alternative to .docs?
[01:44] <hybrid> here
[01:44] <hybrid> it's
[01:44] <frojnd> html?
[01:44] <aseigo> frojnd: zoinks.
[01:44] <hybrid> ;)
[01:44] <dane> in hear look kool
[01:44] <Admiral_Chicago> heya hybrid
[01:45] <frojnd> Branded_Atom: html is the package?
[01:45] <frojnd> aseigo: zoinks is the package?
[01:45] <rjian> can someone teach me how to unmount the disk in kubuntu?
[01:45] <Branded_Atom> html, you know, html, not .odt or .doc,  but .htmll
[01:45] <aseigo> frojnd: no, that's just an uttering of "wow'
[01:46] <aseigo> rjian: open konqueror, go to media:/, right click on the disk and select unmount
[01:46] <rjian> aseigo: it give me an error msg...
[01:46] <yogi> Where does one find the restricted codecs for kubuntu?  They aren't in 'Add/Remove Programs".
[01:47] <frojnd> Branded_Atom: I need to get .doc at the and.. :)
[01:47] <yogi> I'm talking 'FEISTY'... sorry.
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted | frojnd
[01:47] <ubotu> frojnd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:47] <scooter> hello is there a myspace im for linux
[01:47] <yogi> cool. Thanks!
[01:47] <hybrid> hi Admiral_Chicago
[01:48] <scooter> or can someone walk me through the install using wine
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> hybrid: my cloak isn't working so I gave up on it :(
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> scooter: what are you trying to do
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> install wine?
[01:49] <feles> beryl goes down after I install ati drivers and make the resolution 1200x800, any ideas?
[01:49] <tarelerulz> What do you want to install wine for? admiral
[01:50] <scooter> no im trying to install the myspace im messenger but it seems to only be for windows and i need to use wine to get it installed
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> tarelerulz: i'm not, scooter might be though
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> oh, hmm do you have wine installed?
[01:50] <scooter> yes its installed
[01:50] <scooter> for my terminal
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, right click on the .exe and there should be an install function
[01:51] <scooter> ok hang on
[01:52] <scooter> i wouldnt be that lucky lol
[01:52] <scooter> let me make 100% sure wine is installed be right back
[01:54] <feles> any help for berly?  have got a widescreen problem with it
[01:54] <lotusleaf> feles: #beryl #ubuntu-xgl
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> lotusleaf: #ubuntu-effects also
[01:55] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: ya? cool thx :)
[01:55] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: #ubuntulive :P
[01:56] <feles> lotusleaf: I have installed them all nad berly was working fine, after I installed ati and change the resolution berly goes down
[01:56] <hybrid> Admiral_Chicago: what cloak?
[01:56] <scooter> i told you wrong its not installed can you please help
[01:56] <Admiral_Chicago> hybrid: membership, i got it yesterday and the cloak today.
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> scooter: in a terminal. sudo apt-get install wine
[01:57] <scooter> wine is already the newest version.
[01:57] <scooter> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:57] <scooter> this is what i get
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> so you have the latest version
[01:58] <scooter> yea
[01:58] <tony_> hi
[01:58] <scooter> but i forgot how to use it in terminal because it wont work otherwise
[01:58] <tony_> who knows how to use chinese input in ubuntu?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> scooter: where is the file on your computer?
[01:59] <scooter> on my desktop
[01:59] <hybrid> Admiral_Chicago: CONGRATS!
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> hybrid: thanks
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> hybrid: -offtopic if you want
[02:00] <scooter> admiral_chicago: thanks so much for helping
[02:01] <rjian> !upgrade dapper
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgrade dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <hybrid> kk
[02:02] <jtmoney> i have all the repositories enabled on two machines... on my i386 install, i can "sudo apt-get install ivtv-source" without a problem, but on my amd64 box, i cannot... what gives?
[02:02] <scooter> admiral_Chicago: the file is on my desktop
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> scooter: cd Desktop && wine *.exe
[02:03] <scooter> thanks
[02:05] <jtmoney> anyone? =(
[02:06] <jtmoney> don't make me install opensuse =(
[02:06] <jtmoney> i've searched all the forums and can't find anything
[02:07] <redcard> We won't make you install opensuse. :)
[02:07] <scooter> it did a little bit then stopped lol
[02:07] <redcard> jtmoney: You have installed the multiverse, right?
[02:07] <jtmoney> yes
[02:08] <jtmoney> all respositories are enabled
[02:08] <jtmoney> it's the craziest thing
[02:08] <redcard> Try switching to a different copy of the repo
[02:08] <moises> hey guys. I have a logitech quickcam orbit - does anyone know how to get it working in linux?
[02:08] <adz21c> hi, anyone have any idea what this might mean? *** No rule to make target `dummy-checksum.c', needed by `dummy-checksum.o'.  Stop.
[02:08] <jtmoney> redcard: i'm not sure how to do that
[02:09] <redcard> jtmoney: sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
[02:09] <Alethes> anybody know how to keep the baghira sidebar from showing multiple icons for a cd-rom that is mounted automatically?
[02:09] <jtmoney> does that make sense though? my 32-bit install sees it fine, just not the 64-bit install
[02:09] <redcard> Hmm.
[02:09] <redcard> Try apt-cache search ivtv-source
[02:10] <jtmoney> nothing
[02:10] <redcard> Hmm.
[02:10] <redcard> Have you done a sudo apt-get update ?
[02:11] <moises> does anyone have any idea how to make webcams work in ubuntu?
[02:11] <jtmoney> yes
[02:13] <redcard> Well.. I dunno what to suggest, jt.
[02:13] <redcard> Possibly the repository you're using doesn't have it..
[02:14] <lunitik> Anyone have issues installed Herd 3?
[02:15] <jtmoney> redcard: how can i go about changing the repositories? is there a list of mirrors somewhere?
[02:15] <redcard> Yeah.. I'm looking it up, Jt
[02:15] <Tm_T> lunitik: Doing gallup?
[02:15] <Admiral_Chicago> lunitik: i haven't but that question is for #ubuntu+1
[02:15] <lunitik> jtmoney: take a look at apt-spy  (I think that's the prefered one still?)
[02:15] <redcard> jtmoney: What repository do you use?
[02:16] <lunitik> Admiral_Chicago: you could get it installed?
[02:16] <jtmoney> redcard: i enabled everything that was disabled by default
[02:16] <redcard> jtmoney: OH.. here's a question.. did you enable the source repository?
[02:16] <jtmoney> backports, universe, multiverse, etc.
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> lunitik: no i upgraded from edgy
[02:17] <jtmoney> yes
[02:17] <lunitik> Admiral_Chicago: ugh.... well thanks anyways
[02:17] <redcard> Hmmm.
[02:18] <jtmoney> i did a fresh install on here too... i was having the same problem yesterday
[02:20] <jtmoney> hah, and ivtv's web site doesn't support kernel .11... only the newer ones
[02:21] <borko> any1 use kile?
[02:21] <Dacr> Van itt magyar?
[02:22] <jtmoney> wait, i'm gonna try and compile it from the source
[02:22] <jtmoney> this should work
[02:22] <tarelerulz> I can't get mplayer to work and I add arts , esd alsa to the command line
[02:23] <jtmoney> brb
[02:37] <jtmoney> well, i got ivtv working and tested it and i'm getting a signal... but mythtv is not listed in adept... it HAS to be because this is the amd64 version
[02:37] <jtmoney> now, there should be some way that i can install 32-bit packages on here, right?
[02:38] <intelikey> !chroot
[02:38] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:39] <Sanne> jtmoney: you also can install 32 bit apps manually (usually /usr/local or /opt). You would also need to have any required libs those apps need also in 32 bit version, which may or may not be a hassle.
[02:39] <jtmoney> intelikey and Sanne: thank you
[02:39] <emjay> !it
[02:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:40] <Sanne> jtmoney: I'll find you some general info, sec
[02:40] <jtmoney> i might just install the i386 version on here
[02:41] <Slynderdale> How do you open Konsole?
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Slynderdale: alt + space. kon [enter] 
[02:41] <Sanne> jtmoney: two links, the 64 bit forum on ubuntuforums, and helpful wiki pages: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=134 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=64&titlesearch=Titles
[02:42] <Slynderdale> Admiral_Chicago: Alt+space didn't do anything
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Slynderdale: alt + F2, konsole
[02:43] <Admiral_Chicago> you don't have katapult on which is odd
[02:43] <intelikey> Slynderdale it's in the kmenu  or you can type in commands    ^
[02:44] <jtmoney> Sanne: thanks
[02:44] <Sanne> jtmoney: you're welcome
[02:44] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago where is datapult default ?
[02:44] <intelikey> catapult
[02:44] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: define "where"
[02:45] <intelikey> where generally denotes a specific point in space or time.
[02:45] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: no but katapult has a ton of files, i assumed you mean where is it installed
[02:46] <Slynderdale> Hmm, can someone give me the command to open konsole so I can add it to my menu?
[02:46] <intelikey> no i mean  "<Admiral_Chicago> you don't have katapult on which is odd" <<< would imply that catapult was a default app
[02:47] <intelikey> konsole Slynderdale
[02:47] <intelikey> that is the command.
[02:47] <intelikey> konsole
[02:47] <Admiral_Chicago> katapult is installed by default for kubuntu. i mean it's not on
[02:47] <intelikey> it is installed by default on kubuntu ???  i've never seen it.
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: space + alt ?
[02:48] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago like i said.  i've never seen it
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> that's very strange.
[02:49] <psyk> can someone please tell me how to install a file with the *run in kubuntu linux
[02:50] <intelikey> psyk execute it
[02:50] <intelikey> !run
[02:50] <psyk> how do i do that
[02:50] <Sanne> psyk: are you sure it's not in the official ubuntu repositories?
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <psyk> type no its a game
[02:50] <psyk> Amercan Army
[02:50] <LjL> intelikey: but you can't hide
[02:50] <Admiral_Chicago> psyk: ./
[02:51] <psyk> yeah
[02:51] <cj_> hello dood morning
[02:51] <Sanne> psyk: ok
[02:51] <cj_> to all
[02:51] <intelikey> psyk chmod 700 file.run ;./file.run
[02:52] <psyk> so type !RUN  than the filename?
[02:52] <psyk> i got this file armyops250linux.run
[02:52] <psyk> now i want to install it
[02:53] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago   katapult - item launcher for KDE
[02:53] <psyk> i go to the directory and type !run armyops250linux.run
[02:53] <intelikey> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:53] <intelikey>   katapult
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: what version?
[02:53] <intelikey> seems it isn't installed in dapper
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> i had it then.
[02:53] <intelikey> maybe you installed it
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> no. i put dapper on my buddy's system and katapult was installed
[02:54] <intelikey> psyk#    chmod 700 file.run ;./file.run
[02:54] <psyk> whats chmod 700 file.run mean
[02:55] <intelikey> psyk means you probably don't need to be executing commands...
[02:55] <iroxorsju> hey everyone
[02:57] <iroxorsju> can somone point me in the direction to learn linux
[02:57] <iroxorsju> I am gonan try it out
[02:57] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago hmmmm maybe it is a dep. on kubuntu-desktop   seems to list it when i issue  install kubuntu-desktop    but i have installed from the kub. live on several systems  never saw alt+space do anything...   (never really looked for it either)
[02:58] <iroxorsju> I got Kubuntu installed already
[02:58] <om3ga> does any one like KOffice better than openoffice?/
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> iroxorsju: there is an official desktop guide
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> om3ga: i do
[02:59] <iroxorsju> one that teachs you how to install programs from the web you find like boinc
[02:59] <om3ga> ok im about to try it out just thought i would ask
[02:59] <intelikey> psyk chmod is a command to CHange the MODification privledges (aka permissions) on an inode    700 would make the owner able to read/write/execute the file and no one else.
[03:00] <Branded_Atom> iroxorsju: my advice, don't install from the web, use system-> adept_package manager
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> iroxorsju: BOINC is in the repositories
[03:00] <iroxorsju> ..
[03:00] <intelikey> psyk then the   ;./file.run    portion of that command would execute the file.
[03:00] <Branded_Atom> thats got nearly everything you could be looking for, and its automated to install to your specific distro and libraries
[03:00] <iroxorsju> man this is like a shock to the system lol
[03:02] <Branded_Atom> its so much better than trying to check  on dependencies etc, yourself
[03:02] <BluesKaj> Branded_Atom , where do you think adept installs the pkges from ...the repositories reside on the net
[03:03] <iroxorsju> i went in there and typed Boinc i don't see it i am searching around in the desktop guide now
[03:03] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah but that's not what Branded_Atom meant
[03:03] <Branded_Atom> comparing adept to googling for a specific thing?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> well ppl who aren'yt familiar with the way pkg repos work could be misguided by his statement
[03:04] <intelikey> boinc-client - core client for the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure
[03:04] <intelikey> boinc-manager - GUI to control and monitor the BOINC core client
[03:05] <dwidmann> om3ga: I do
[03:05] <intelikey> yeah and people that only have the dvd repo could assume that it was pefrectly wise
[03:05] <tarelerulz> I am trying to use mplayer and I compiled it with arts is that a good idea
[03:06] <psyk> im just trying  install a file qwith the *.run extension
[03:06] <psyk> and no one inhere canhelpme
[03:06] <psyk> IM very knew to linux
[03:06] <intelikey> tarelerulz why did you compile it ?
[03:07] <intelikey> psyk i told you how,  and explained the meaning of the commands.
[03:07] <intelikey> psyk scroll up  ^
[03:07] <dwidmann> intelikey: well, you've gotta admit the more recent versions are qutie a bit superior to the pre7 release
[03:08] <intelikey> dwidmann i don't have to admit any such thing.     just use vlc.
[03:08] <intelikey> :)
[03:08] <BluesKaj> psyk , usually *.run files are driver installers
[03:09] <intelikey> BluesKaj it's a game in that case  ^
[03:09] <dwidmann> intelikey: I bounce around msyelf, but if I'm going to use mplayer, I'll be d***ed if I'm not using the release candidate, or at least the pre8 release
[03:10] <psyk> Sh  than the filename
[03:10] <intelikey> dwidmann fair enough.   then arts  and/or  alsa
[03:10] <psyk> is how you install .run files
[03:10] <dwidmann> I always use alsa with mplayer
[03:11] <Nickname> hi
[03:11] <Nickname> i have a problem
[03:11] <dwidmann> ("mplayer -vo xv -ao alsa") *thumbs up*
[03:11] <HymnToLife> psyk, sh /path/to/file.run
[03:11] <HymnToLife> with sudo if needed
[03:11] <Nickname> i try to install kubuntu on my computer but it freze
[03:11] <psyk> probably a scratch in the cd
[03:12] <BluesKaj> if i remember correctly i installed *.run file with guidance of the software driver source site with instructins that are particular to that software driver
[03:12] <Nickname> i have a dual boot system
[03:12] <Nickname> no
[03:12] <intelikey> that does assume that it has shell script code at the beginning...     which it probably does.  but chmoding it and ./file.run   will work even if it doesn't
[03:12] <psyk> maybe its a bad cd
[03:12] <psyk> try another cd
[03:12] <psyk> or another cd
[03:12] <Nickname> does there any way to install from command prompt
[03:13] <Nickname> not a cd problem
[03:13] <Nickname> i try different cds
[03:13] <dwidmann> Nickname: try the alternate cd
[03:13] <intelikey> Nickname alternate CD
[03:13] <intelikey> !alternate
[03:13] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:13] <Nickname> i tried
[03:14] <dwidmann> Odd that it would freeze
[03:14] <Nickname> ok then
[03:14] <Nickname> thats wht i have the live cd
[03:14] <dwidmann> I'm assuming that you ran "check disk for errors" at the menu?
[03:14] <dwidmann> (just to be safe, that is)
[03:15] <Nickname> i dont think there is any problem in the cd
[03:15] <dwidmann> thinking and knowing - two different terms with two different meanings
[03:15] <Nickname> i know
[03:15] <Nickname> ;-)
[03:15] <Nickname> this is the 20th time i tried
[03:16] <shiv> I have 2 audio cards one onboard and 1 audigy. How do I tell mixer to make audigy default everytime it boots?
[03:16] <dwidmann> Last time I went through that many cds, I ended up replacing my burner :\
[03:16] <Nickname> see you guys
 thats wht i have the live cd <<<<    live CD  !=  alternate
[03:17] <dwidmann> shiv: you could probably blacklist the driver for the onboard sound
[03:17] <shiv> how do I do that
[03:18] <dwidmann> Lets see here, I do believe it involves adding a line to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file
[03:18] <BluesKaj> or change the peripherals settings in the BIOS
[03:18] <intelikey> why not just go into the kcontrol sound setting  and tell kde to use the card you want....
[03:18] <dwidmann> the line reads like "blacklist [insert driver name here] "
[03:18] <dwidmann> ex: blacklist intel8x0
[03:19] <intelikey> BluesKaj bios probably wont affect that.
[03:19] <BluesKaj> it worked for me intelikey
[03:19] <intelikey> BluesKaj it might.  but linux doesn't pay very much attention to bios...
[03:20] <dwidmann> it doesn't always have a choice
[03:20] <dwidmann> if you disable devices, not much linux can do about it ;)
[03:20] <shiv> let me try the kcontrol again. I have done it before. Id defaults back to the onboard when I boot
[03:23] <shiv> intelikey: In kcontrol in sounds hardware its not giving me any option to choose audigy
 if you disable devices, not much linux can do about it ;) <<<   ah i beg to differ.  i disable all disk drives but the boot disk...
[03:24] <intelikey> dwidmann and my running system is not on the boot disk...
[03:24] <intelikey> only one example.  there are many.
[03:25] <intelikey> shiv doesn't let you slect the device ?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> audigy drivers for linux perhaps?
[03:26] <dwidmann> intelikey: odd, when I disable devices, linux can't access it ..... not the same for you?
[03:26] <intelikey> no
[03:26] <shiv> intelikey: its listed in kmixer as audigy but its not located in hardware section in kcontrol
[03:26] <dwidmann> At any rate, I still think the easy way would be to blacklist the module for the onboard sound ...
[03:27] <intelikey> shiv aconfig   ?
[03:28] <intelikey> seems i remember seeing crimsun using that command to switch cards...
[03:28] <intelikey> aconf[tab-key]     i may not know the name of the command.  but if you find it man it
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> man -k searches all man pages for keywords
[03:30] <intelikey> apropos
[03:32] <shiv> let me restart I used the blacklist thing
[03:32] <krups> i'm having issues playing some cds.  it's works for some, but not others.  ideas on how to troubleshoot?  i can rip them on a windows box - just don't like to.
[03:32] <intelikey> server side spam !!!
[03:32] <BluesKaj> shiv, perhaps hardware recognition does require the presence of the right drivers , so it may be listed , but still won't work
[03:32] <BluesKaj> sorry doesn't require the right drivers
[03:32] <shiv> dwidmann: Do I need to just write blacklist intel8x0 or should I write the whole name after intel82....
[03:33] <shiv> BluesKaj: It works fine
[03:33] <shiv> BluesKaj: It works fine, all I need to do is select every time it boots and relogin
[03:33] <intelikey> shiv lsmod | grep snd
[03:34] <dwidmann> That'll work, if that's the driver for the onboard sound anyhow
[03:35] <dwidmann> run lsmod | grep snd
[03:35] <Slynderdale> !nessus
[03:35] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[03:35] <dwidmann> if intel8x0 is in the list, then it's the one
[03:36] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[03:36] <shiv> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5867/
[03:36] <shiv> dwidmann: I think it is
[03:36] <shiv> let me reboot and see
[03:37] <intelikey>  snd_intel8x0
[03:37] <intelikey> yes that's your card driver
[03:37] <shiv> brb
[03:37] <intelikey> snd_ac97*  is also card drivers
[03:38] <BluesKaj> well , I used to have 2 sound cards on this pc and I was advised by the mfg to disable the onboard one in the BIOS , even with linux
[03:38] <Slynderdale> Anyone here use GAIM beta 6 and is it stable?
[03:38] <ichsan> What do u mean by stable?
[03:39] <ichsan> I had used GAIM but the file transfer is not reliable
[03:40] <Slynderdale> Hmm, are there any other alternatives?
[03:40] <XVampireX> ichsan: Wait for Jingle support
[03:40] <XVampireX> Or use Skype for file transfer
[03:40] <ichsan> What do you usually use for? Yahoo or just jabber?
[03:40] <intelikey> i heard someone mention this pre-alpha software and, i was wondering if it's rock solid server ready stable ????
[03:40] <BluesKaj> IM that works well on ubuntu is aMSN , doesn't crash if that's what is meant by "stabe"
[03:40] <XVampireX> intelikey: What?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> stable
[03:40] <XVampireX> ichsan: Me?
[03:41] <Slynderdale> ichsan: Yahoo and MSN
[03:41] <XVampireX> Ah
[03:41] <jeremie> Hi everyone.  I'm setting up Kubuntu, well repairing it, on a friend's laptop.  I keep getting error 13 when I try to set up his XP as a choice in Grub.  Is it possible that someone here knows what this is about?
[03:41] <ichsan> wait ...
[03:41] <intelikey> stable and alpha/beta  don't gerenally go in the same breath...
[03:41] <samiam010203> you could try and reinstall grub
[03:41] <Slynderdale> Well, I'm currently using Gaim Beta 3 and by stable, I mean doesn't crah every few minutes
[03:42] <intelikey> jeremie wrong address for the partition
[03:42] <jeremie> I reinstalled Kubuntu, and all works fine that way, I suspect he wrecked something of the windows boot process, but I have no clue about that :(
[03:42] <jeremie> ahh?
[03:42] <XVampireX> People if you want good file transfers, use skype
[03:43] <jeremie> intelikey: I thought I had it right, first partition on only one disk, so hd0,0
[03:43] <jeremie> I agree with XVampireX, Skype rules at file transfer
[03:43] <intelikey> jeremie that's normally what error 13 means.  it can be a missing fs as well.
[03:43] <Slynderdale> Hmm, anyone have any reccomendations for software that doesn't come with (K)Ubuntu by default?
[03:43] <XVampireX> jeremie: but Jingle will blow skype :D
[03:44] <HymnToLife> Slynderdale, software to do what ?
[03:45] <intelikey> jeremie literally  grub error 13 == "i can't read the <supply by-words to suit self> thing.
[03:45] <ichsan> I'm currently using jabber protocol
[03:45] <ichsan> with jabbin as the messenger
[03:45] <Slynderdale> HymnToLife: Hmm, basicly general software that makes your expierance with Linux better
[03:45] <ichsan> It's really reliable
[03:45] <ichsan> peer 2 peer
[03:45] <BluesKaj> jeremie, how did you partition the drive ...before install or during Kubuntu install ?
[03:45] <matdon> hi
[03:45] <jeremie> intelikey: Yes, I remember a message about "not a suitable executable"
[03:46] <matdon> how can I get kubuntu to see my usb mass storage device?
[03:46] <jeremie> He gave it to me already bugged.  XP is on teh first partition, and therest was free, so I used it for swap and /
[03:46] <HymnToLife> matdon, plug it in
[03:46] <HymnToLife> nothing else should be needed
[03:46] <intelikey> jeremie on the outside chance that the partition number is wrong     sudo fdisk -l
[03:46] <ichsan> When Taiwan is down again, it won't has effect on my network
[03:46] <matdon> that doesn't work
[03:46] <HymnToLife> what does it do instead of working ?
[03:47] <matdon> nothing
[03:47] <HymnToLife> "not working"
[03:47] <jeremie> in fdisk i gives me that it;'s /dev/hda1
[03:47] <HymnToLife> okaaaaaaaay
[03:47] <jeremie> HPFS/NTFS
[03:47] <matdon> it doesn't show up under /dev
[03:47] <HymnToLife> matdon, type media:/ in konqueror's address bar
[03:47] <intelikey> that should be (hd0,0)  check  cat /boot/grub/device*
[03:47] <HymnToLife> does it appear in there ?
[03:48] <BluesKaj> HPFS is the rescue partitionfor HP 's XP
[03:48] <BluesKaj> I had one
[03:49] <matdon> no
[03:49] <jeremie> intelikey: hdo: /dev/hda
[03:49] <jeremie> hd0
[03:50] <intelikey> k then i sujest that the fs may well be hosed.
[03:50] <matdon> could it be a problem invovling udev?
[03:50] <jeremie> intelikey: That's what I suspect.  And he didn;t supply me with a Windows CD, so I'm done I gues. :(
[03:51] <intelikey> matdon it could.   unplug and replug the device and then do  dmesg    in a konsole.
[03:51] <ctw> Hi! Does anybody know approximately when the 1st beta (or next alpha?) of Feisty Fawn will come out?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> jeremie, what about supergrub disk or Ultimate boot Disk
[03:51] <greywolf> hello
[03:51] <matdon> yeah it doesn't change dmesg output at all
[03:51] <jeremie> BluesKaj: Thanks.. It is a Compaq laptop, so I guess HP too
[03:51] <intelikey> jeremie heh unless you want to blank that partition and add the empty space to the linux system   :)
[03:52] <jeremie> I wisj :)
[03:52] <jeremie> wish
[03:52] <BluesKaj> they are supposed to work
[03:52] <jeremie> I even hate this keyboard..
[03:52] <jeremie> :)
[03:52] <intelikey> :)
[03:52] <jeremie> BluesKaj: Those are repair tools?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> oh hangon , did it come with an XP rescue disk , jeremie
[03:52] <ichsan> does anyone know how to format ntfs in linux?
[03:52] <jeremie> probably that the rescue is on HD only
[03:53] <shiv> dwidmann: It still recognised the onboard intel
[03:53] <greywolf> I came here last night to get some help for installing Kubuntu, but nothing I tried worked, so I went onto the ubuntu forums and asked there, and got some more feedback, but I'm too impatient to wait for another reply because I want to use Kubuntu now :P
[03:53] <intelikey> ichsan you don't.
[03:53] <greywolf> if someone could read the thread and help me out, that would be most appreciated
[03:53] <shiv> dwidmann: Do I write blacklist intel8x or blacklist snd_intel8x?
[03:53] <dwidmann> blacklist intel8x0
[03:53] <greywolf> it's at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361109
[03:53] <dwidmann> erm
[03:53] <BluesKaj> jeremie, yes the rescue disk boots to the rescue partition on HP stuff
[03:53] <dwidmann> blacklist snd_intel8x0
[03:53] <shiv> ok
[03:53] <shiv> wait
[03:54] <dwidmann> afterwards - run sudo update-modules
[03:54] <dwidmann> I thimk
[03:54] <intelikey> ichsan ntfs is some Micro$oft propritary junk that they don't want anyone to know anything about...
[03:54] <jeremie> BluesKaj: I don;t see a resce disk in his bag
[03:54] <BluesKaj> bummer
[03:54] <intelikey> dwidmann the module name uses - not _ iirc
[03:55] <BluesKaj> what disk do you have there ?
[03:55] <dwidmann> looks like a _ to me
[03:55] <dwidmann> snd_intel8x0           42024  2
[03:55] <dwidmann> fresh from lsmod
[03:56] <intelikey> dwidmann that's not the name of the module per'se  ls /lib/modules/*/*/sound/
[03:56] <inteliwasp> i am trying to mount a folder over nfs, but it is giving me this error "mount: block device 192.168.0.14:/podcasts is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[03:57] <dwidmann> also, I see other modules listed in the blacklist file, such as snd_intel8x0m ...... using an underscore
[03:57] <intelikey> ok try it.
[03:58] <greywolf> when one of you guys is finished helping someone, could you help me?
[03:58] <intelikey> i guess the - char is case insensitive
[03:58] <intelikey> in that usage
[03:58] <dwidmann> intelikey: possibly
[03:59] <ctw> greywolf: have you tried any other live CDs?
[03:59] <greywolf> I'm downloading the alternate version now
[03:59] <greywolf> but it'll be another 2 hours :(
[03:59] <ctw> yikes
[03:59] <HymnToLife> greywolf, it'll be worth it :)
[03:59] <greywolf> heh
[04:00] <ctw> overnight, also try downloading Knoppix
[04:00] <HymnToLife> at least you will get you Ubuntu installed
[04:00] <inteliwasp> any sugestions?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> then you can go about installing drivers for your card
[04:00] <sancho21> Oh yeah, why I can't use hear any sound from my game while hearing to amarok? This is one of the most I hate in Linux. Sound collision
[04:00] <greywolf> well, even when I try to use the text-based install with the normal 6.10 live cd, it gives me errors
[04:00] <dwidmann> sancho21: make sure both the game is using alsa and it shouldn't be a problem
[04:00] <greywolf> what's the difference between the alternate and normal versions?
[04:01] <HymnToLife> the alternate CD is test-based
[04:01] <ctw> if you get graphics in Knoppix, you know it works and you could copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:01] <dwidmann> A lot of games, especially commercial games, tend to use OSS
[04:01] <HymnToLife> ext*
[04:01] <sancho21> dwidman, how to make sure of that
[04:01] <sancho21> ?
[04:01] <greywolf> well, when I boot Kubuntu from the cd and try to install it, it leads me to a command line, not an installation GUI
[04:01] <intelikey> inteliwasp does the user in question have permission locally ?   i see that that is a local network address so i assume you can check at the other end
[04:01] <dwidmann> the alternate also only requires far less memory, and it's a bit more flexible (RAID/LVM installs, etc)
[04:01] <dwidmann> sancho21: guess it would depend on the program
[04:02] <HymnToLife> greywolf, you could also edit your xorg.conf from your live cd to use the never-failing-but-poor-quality vesa drive
[04:02] <HymnToLife> r*
[04:02] <HymnToLife> just so you can get your ubntu installed
[04:02] <greywolf> so I've tried using startx to install it, but that fails as well
[04:02] <ctw> geywolf: that's why I suggested trying knoppix
[04:02] <inteliwasp> intelikey: i was using sudo to mount
[04:02] <greywolf> I did that, too :(
[04:02] <greywolf> I used "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:02] <greywolf> and reconfigured the drivers to use vesa
[04:03] <sancho21> There is no sound system manager that manage all resource using the sound device then?
[04:03] <Daskreech> Right
[04:03] <Daskreech>  So I need to rotate the page on a pdf
[04:03] <Daskreech>  any suggestions?
[04:03] <greywolf> but it gave me an error about not being able to find the video card
[04:03] <sancho21> dwidmann, So you have the same problem too? I suppose
[04:04] <HymnToLife> that's weird, the vesa driver is supposed to work on _all_ videocards
[04:04] <greywolf> for reference, I have an ATI Radeon 9250 (yeah, now I find out that ATI sux)
[04:04] <HymnToLife> well, recent ones, at least
[04:04] <dwidmann> sancho21: yeah, I have to kill anything accessing /dev/dsp before starting quake4
[04:04] <greywolf> will taking out that radeon card help?
[04:04] <jeremie> I'm off to try Supergrub disk, thanks guys
[04:04] <ctw> greywolf:http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html
[04:04] <HymnToLife> if you can replace it with an nvidia, yes
[04:04] <greywolf> because I'm at the point where I just want to install and get it over wtih
[04:04] <ctw> they have pretty good hardware detection
[04:05] <ctw> copy the xorg.conf file from knoppix if it works
[04:05] <HymnToLife> greywolf, the alternate will let you do that, then you can go about installing drivers for your radeon
[04:05] <HymnToLife> ctw, not necessarily
[04:06] <greywolf> ctw: but I don't even have ubuntu installed yet - does that matter?
[04:06] <HymnToLife> drivers in different distros are not always the same
[04:06] <greywolf> Hymn: ok I guess I just have to be patient then
[04:06] <greywolf> I think I'm eventually gonna make the switch from windows to linux, but the only thing that's holding me back are my games and photoshop
[04:07] <intelikey> greywolf yes. install from the alternate install CD  then  install the vidio driver
[04:07] <ctw> if all else fails, Knoppix is worth a try ... you'd copy the xorg.conf file on a usb stick and then copy it on the HD when you want to install Kubuntu
[04:07] <user__> hey anyone using lm-sensors here?  got a quick question
[04:07] <x04ty29er> just ask
[04:07] <dwidmann> greywolf ... well, you could dual boot
[04:07] <greywolf> I don't have a usb stick :(
[04:07] <juano_> greywolf: games are a bit  of an issue yes, except photoshop, well there is GIMP, an alternative which is good
[04:07] <greywolf> yeah, I am
[04:07] <x04ty29er> if anyone has any idea what you are talking about
[04:07] <x04ty29er> they will answer
[04:07] <dwidmann> use linux as the main, then reboot to play games or whatnot
[04:08] <user__> after installing it, how do i open it??
[04:08] <x04ty29er> thats what i do
[04:08] <x04ty29er> do you know where yoou installed it to?
[04:08] <HymnToLife> user__, http://www.lm-sensors.org
[04:08] <user__> naw, straight off adept
[04:08] <juano_> greywolf: but i dont know, probably a dual boot should be best for games and photoshop
[04:08] <HymnToLife> all you need to know is there :)
[04:08] <x04ty29er> lol
[04:08] <greywolf> juano_: yeah, I'm dual booting to see what ubuntu is like, so perhaps I'll just stick with that
[04:08] <x04ty29er> probably
[04:08] <intelikey> ctw installing knoppix would work  but using xorg.conf from a knoppix cd to get x running on *buntu is doubtfull at best
[04:09] <x04ty29er> by the way
[04:09] <juano_> greywolf: yes, i dual boot also, there are things in windows which i like, Nero, etc.
[04:09] <x04ty29er> even adept manager tells you what it installs to where
[04:09] <x04ty29er> you just have to click on the package and click details
[04:09] <juano_> greywolf: you can install Photoshop via crossover office, though i dont like it much , its not the same you know
[04:10] <x04ty29er> it doesnt work as well at all
[04:10] <dwidmann> or codeweavers, or depending on the version, or wine ......  or in a virtual machine, plenty of possibilities
[04:10] <greywolf> yeah
[04:10] <ctw> greywolf: if you don't need the ATI card and can take it out (like a previous post suggests) you'd most likely get it running with the on board graphics chip
[04:11] <greywolf> ok I guess that'll be my only option if this alternate cd fails
[04:11] <juano_> x04ty29er: yea, i think crossover office isnt as good as it seems
[04:11] <greywolf> I don't want to try it now because my download's at 32%
[04:11] <ludomatic> hi all! I have a question about the info panel that appear from the taskbar for some seconds
[04:12] <ludomatic> anyone know how to call it from command line?
[04:12] <ludomatic> I have a loooong make to do and would like to do something like $make && alert("finished")
[04:12] <Daskreech> greywolf: Welcome to the linux realm :)
[04:13] <ctw> greywolf: try the alternate first ... if all else fails you could always consider trying another distribution, too ... I like Kubuntu a lot, but maybe another distribution is better for your hardware ... many years ago I had some good experiences with SuSE
[04:13] <ctw> http://www.opensuse.org/
[04:13] <intelikey> hmmmm something eat 4m of ram...
[04:13] <x04ty29er> juano_: yea I tried to run some stuff off crossover and the performance was barely acceptable
[04:13] <ctw> I used it in the pre-Novell days, so my experience with it is a bit dated
[04:13] <x04ty29er> especially comapred to its windows counterpart
[04:14] <greywolf> ok, I'll do that, then, if Kubuntu doesn't work
[04:14] <ctw> but again, if you don't need the ATI card, get rid of it first
[04:14] <ctw> that should solve your problems
[04:14] <x04ty29er> keep the card until you figure out how to config it right
[04:14] <x04ty29er> well
[04:15] <x04ty29er> not in your computer
[04:15] <ctw> or sell it and get an nvidia card instead
[04:15] <greywolf> heh
[04:15] <juancamilo> hi all
[04:15] <Daskreech> Anyone have a solution?
[04:15] <ctw> should make your live easier
[04:15] <juano_> x04ty29er: yes, one of my main issues is my motorola rokr, which has itunes, i installed itunes but never made the pod sync its itunes
[04:15] <greywolf> I'll probably be getting a new computer sometime next year
[04:16] <x04ty29er> juano_: amarok has a feature that allows it to sync ipods
[04:16] <greywolf> I grabbed this one for $200 at best buy in the after-thanksgiving sale
[04:16] <x04ty29er> and other devices
[04:16] <ctw> it's always good to check the components for linux compatability first
[04:16] <ctw> for desktops it's usually not much of an issue
[04:16] <intelikey> Daskreech to what?
[04:16] <Daskreech> I need to rotate the page on a pdf
[04:16] <ctw> but especially for laptops it can save some headache later
[04:17] <juancamilo> i have a problem with my video card, a nvidia gforce 6600 go, when i try to enable the driver it does not work...anyone??
[04:17] <greywolf> sounds crappy, but it's actually pretty decent: 80 GB HD, 512 MB RAM, 2.66 GHz, 256K bus speed
[04:17] <intelikey> oh..  !i
[04:17] <greywolf> well, that looks crappy, too, but suffice to say it runs just fine :P
[04:17] <ctw> juancamilo: do you have the linux-restricted-modules installed?
[04:17] <juano_> x04ty29er: yes, ive tried , amarok , gtkpod, no luck :(
[04:17] <D4rkly> hi i just downloaded rtspd2.0 but its source. the source contains configure and makefile.in how can i build this app
[04:17] <intelikey> 256K bus speed ?
[04:18] <user__> anyone know a good sensors program? lm doesnt seem to good
[04:18] <greywolf> well I don't like laptops much - it's really hard to play ADoM and other roguelikes that way
[04:18] <ludomatic> ok, I've used
[04:18] <ludomatic> $ make ; kdialog --msgbox "finished: $?"
[04:18] <BluesKaj> greywolf, seems quite sufficient to run kubuntu...games are a diff story
[04:18] <juancamilo> yes i have, them
[04:19] <Daskreech> user__: lmsensors I think
[04:19] <intelikey> ksensor ?
[04:19] <juano_> juancamilo: change Driver "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:19] <ctw> what did you do to enable the driver, what's the error message
[04:19] <D4rkly> how do i run configure and makefile to build rtspd ?
[04:19] <juano_> juancamilo: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:19] <intelikey> ksensors ?
[04:19] <juancamilo> ok, ill try that
[04:19] <greywolf> blueskaj: yeah, I've been researching linux a bit and it seems that's the main (only?) problem
[04:19] <juancamilo> thanks
[04:19] <user__> yah except lm sensors, and ktemperature
[04:19] <Daskreech> !info ksensors
[04:19] <ubotu> ksensors: lm-sensors frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-11ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 292 kB, installed size 912 kB
[04:20] <juano_> juancamilo: that helps with rendering
[04:20] <user__> anything better?
[04:20] <user__> hmmmmmmmmm
[04:20] <user__> let me check that out
[04:21] <greywolf> ctw: it spouts a message saying it can't find the video card (either I guess I have the wrong PCI address in the config, or it's something different), and this: (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS
[04:21] <Daskreech> intelikey: Any suggestions
[04:22] <intelikey> Daskreech no sorry.  pdf is something i avoid like the plague
[04:22] <Daskreech> cool
[04:22] <Daskreech> anyone else have any solutions :)
[04:23] <user__> hmmm aight tried the lm with ksensor front end, its aight, but no temperature displays?
[04:23] <user__> wats up with that?
[04:23] <greywolf> ctw: oh, I forgot to say that I typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and that took me to a hardware configuration wizard; I used it to pick the VESA driver and set the PCI bus location of the video card - I skipped everything else
[04:24] <ctw> gerywolf: what exactly did you do?
[04:24] <intelikey> greywolf i have seen vidio cards that wont support vesa  try reconfiguring xorg to use your card rather than vesa
[04:24] <user__> anyone?
[04:24] <D4rkly> can someone help me compile rtspd2.0 (rtsp streaming server)
[04:25] <ctw> yeah, try another driver
[04:25] <greywolf> intelikey: how would I do that? It gives me a list of 30ish drivers
[04:25] <greywolf> try it 30 different times? :P
[04:25] <ctw> look for ATI or radeon
[04:25] <ctw> and try different ones
[04:25] <ctw> also try anything that looks generic like "frame buffer"
[04:25] <intelikey> greywolf switch to another console and issue# lshw | less
[04:26] <greywolf> switch to another console? I don't have kubuntu installed yet...
[04:26] <intelikey> greywolf in the list of hardware find your vidio card and select the driver aproprate for it.
[04:26] <greywolf> ctw: ok I'll do that
[04:27] <greywolf> intelikey: if I knew the appropriate driver, I would have done that already ;)
[04:27] <user__> annnyone?  no one monitors their cpu temps here!?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> linux doesn't run hot
[04:27] <intelikey> greywolf like i said switch to another console and look it up.
[04:27] <user__> linux doesnt run hot? .... dude... heat is app/load based...
[04:28] <x04ty29er> actually
[04:28] <greywolf> intelikey: you'll have to forgive me - I don't know what you mean... >_>
[04:28] <x04ty29er> running the same average load
[04:28] <BluesKaj> no kidding ,...gamer huh ?
[04:28] <x04ty29er> I think that linux does run slightly cooler
[04:28] <x04ty29er> for me at least
[04:28] <intelikey> greywolf alt+f#  where # is any number from 1 to 6
[04:28] <Branded_Atom> ksysguard has a temp sensor interface
[04:28] <ctw> greywolf: what happens when you press CTRL+SHIFT+F!
[04:28] <ctw> F1
[04:28] <Mena> What is the latest ver of kernel
[04:28] <user__> Branded_Atom: where?
[04:29] <greywolf> ctw: I haven't done that before
[04:29] <Branded_Atom> kmenu, system, ksysguard
[04:29] <ctw> itntelikey: I think it's ctrl+shift rather than alt
[04:29] <ctw> gerywolf: try it
[04:29] <intelikey> ctw not for consoles
[04:29] <greywolf> I'll do it when the alternate cd downloads >_>
[04:29] <ctw> that syoud give you a different console
[04:29] <x04ty29er> tty?
[04:29] <user__> Branded_Atom: im looking at it now, but no temp display
[04:29] <ctw> ah
[04:29] <ctw> right
[04:29] <user__> Branded_Atom: do i need to add it?
[04:30] <Mena>  What is the latest ver of kernel
[04:30] <ctw> I forgot that X wasn't up yet
[04:30] <greywolf> so, to look up my video card in the other console, what do I say?
[04:30] <Branded_Atom> sensor browser\
[04:30] <ctw> press alt+F1 (or F2 ...)
[04:30] <x04ty29er> Mena: Look online
[04:30] <greywolf> (and find the appropriate driver)
[04:30] <intelikey> ctw i'm in tty1 as we speek,  and play in console all the time...
[04:30] <Branded_Atom> local host, acpi
[04:30] <x04ty29er> lol
[04:30] <Mena> x04ty29er, where
[04:30] <ctw> and type lshw | less
[04:31] <greywolf> ah oki
[04:31] <Branded_Atom> thermal zone.. just keep expanding, you'll see it
[04:31] <ctw> intelikey: sorry, I stand corrected
[04:31] <greywolf> *ok
[04:31] <jtmoney> if uname -a says "i686", that is the 32-bit version of kubuntu, right?
[04:31] <intelikey> right
[04:31] <jtmoney> what the hell, i still can't see the mythtv and ivtv-source packages
[04:31] <Branded_Atom> user__: you get it going?
[04:31] <Mena> !kernel
[04:31] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:31] <x04ty29er> Mena: google linux kernel
[04:31] <user__> Branded_Atom: i dont have acpi
[04:31] <Mena> x04ty29er, ok
[04:32] <Mena> x04ty29er, :)
[04:32] <Branded_Atom> you see sensor browser?
[04:32] <Branded_Atom> local host..
[04:32] <greywolf> only an hour left for the alternate iso download! :)
[04:32] <shiv_> dwidmann: The blacklist thing finally worked, Thanks :)
[04:32] <user__> yup
[04:32] <intelikey> Mena better yet goto http://kernel.org
[04:32] <user__> im on local host
[04:32] <deathnote> what's the difference between the dvd and cd version of edgy?
[04:32] <user__> browsing thru cpu 0, 1 and such
[04:32] <ctw> gerywolf: are you currently booted up in Windows?
[04:32] <Mena> intelikey, okay
[04:32] <greywolf> ctw: yeah
[04:32] <jtmoney> deathnote: dvd has more packages
[04:33] <dwidmann> shiv: cool
[04:33] <Branded_Atom> and logfiles, and memory?
[04:33] <intelikey> deathnote initall install   no differance.
[04:33] <deathnote> means i don't need to apt-get update ?
[04:33] <shiv_> dwidmann: I remember something in suse where I had interchanged 0 and 1 with both the cards somewhere and it had worked too. Is there something like that in (k)ubuntu?
[04:33] <user__> yup
[04:33] <greywolf> whenever I try to boot and install from the cd, it leads me to a command line
[04:33] <Branded_Atom> and there should be an acpi bit in that level
[04:33] <Eeyore-Jr> feodra had a utility that upon boot scanned for new hardware and if it found it, installed it.  does kubuntu do this as well, or is there an easy way to add new hardware ?
[04:34] <ctw> greywolf: it's also a good idea to find other local linux users who might be able to help you get started: http://www.linux.org/groups/
[04:34] <intelikey> greywolf yes that's called a "console"
[04:34] <user__> logfiles only has daemon, kern and messages
[04:34] <greywolf> heh, yeah, I figured that
[04:34] <greywolf> I'm just used to the windows term
[04:34] <greywolf> ctw: ok, thanks
[04:34] <deathnote> more packages means less download from net?
[04:35] <Branded_Atom> user, it should be in the same level as diskthroughput and memory, just one level under localhost
[04:35] <Branded_Atom> if not, i can't help you anymore, its a hardware/software interaction issue
[04:35] <user__> crap... its an issue then... DAMN!
[04:35] <user__> lol
[04:35] <user__> thanks anyways thouh man
[04:36] <deathnote> how do i get out of the kubuntu loading screen during boot up to see what's loading?
[04:36] <Branded_Atom> not saying it IS an issue, but it seems that way to my noobishness
[04:36] <ctw> gerywolf: if you look up your graphics card in the windows hardware info, what does it say?
[04:36] <Minataku> Ah... 2.6.20 is compiling as we speak
[04:37] <Minataku> I love configuring a new kernel
[04:37] <intelikey> greywolf by default *buntu linux will have 6 login consoles active when not in single user mode (rescue)    you switch between them with alt+f#      if / when  in xorg the consoles are still active but xorg requires you to add the ctrl key to break out of X   ctrl+alt+f#    and xorg is running in tty7 by default.    console == tty
[04:37] <deathnote> !nvidia
[04:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <Daskreech> Does anyone have a good way of rotating a page on a PDF?
[04:37] <ctw> Daskreech: what exactly do you want to do?
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Daskreech: xpdf is what i use
[04:38] <ctw> do you want to read or create a PDF?
[04:38] <ctw> is the PDF only one page long?
[04:38] <Daskreech> I want to turn the page sideways so  ican read it without my chiropracter
[04:38] <Minataku> Daskreech: Lift monitor, rotate along Z axis 90 degrees, place monitor back on holding surface
[04:38] <Daskreech> No it's 9 pages but they are all sidways
[04:38] <greywolf> ctw: in Device Manager, it says under Display Adapters, "RADEON 9250" and then "RADEON 9250 - Secondary"
[04:38] <Minataku> Sorry, just joking XD
[04:38] <ctw> DAskreech there's a comand in acroread that can do that easily
[04:38] <Daskreech> Minataku: I think You mean X :)
[04:38] <user__> another question, how do you set konqueror to a certain view mode?  ie tree view permanantly
[04:38] <intelikey> Daskreech i have a thought.     "pring the file"
[04:39] <block-guy> is there a way to get Reg xchat installed vs this horrid xchat-gnome
[04:39] <Daskreech> !info acroread
[04:39] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:39] <intelikey> print
[04:39] <Minataku> Daskreech: No, Z
[04:39] <Minataku> X would put the screen facing up or down
[04:39] <Daskreech> Minataku: In that case you probably mean around the Z axis
[04:39] <SpAwN> hello all i installed apache and then uninstalled it and i accidently erase the /etc/apahe/folder ...i know need apache and went to install it and got this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/437
[04:39] <Daskreech> not along
[04:39] <Minataku> Depending on which way you rotate
[04:39] <juancamilo> hi all
[04:39] <greywolf> under properties, it says it's working properly and it's in PCI Slot 2 (PCI bus 1, device 1, function 0)
[04:39] <user__> how do you set konqueror to a certain view mode?  ie tree view permanantly
[04:40] <juancamilo> juano_ i did that already but it does not seem to be working
[04:40] <Minataku> Daskreech: I dunno, math isn't my thing
[04:40] <ctw> greywolf:what's the exact name / model number
[04:40] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[04:40] <Daskreech> :-)
[04:40] <Branded_Atom> user, settings, configue view profiles..
[04:40] <juancamilo> juano_ how can i test it?
[04:40] <ctw> Daskreech: so what's the problem with acroread?
[04:40] <user__> Branded_Atom: thanks man, let me give it a go
[04:41] <Daskreech> ctw: Don't know didn't install it
[04:41] <Branded_Atom> don't forget that file management != web browsing, you may need to be specific
[04:41] <deathnote> hi just done an installation via dvd for edgy.. i noticed in sources.list there's a line for the CD .. should i remove before doing update?
[04:41] <Daskreech> I know okular is rotate able
[04:41] <Daskreech> Kpdf isn't
[04:41] <Daskreech> I guess acroread is
[04:41] <Branded_Atom> its not something i have done, but it seems straightfoward
[04:41] <ctw> Daskreech: open it in kghostview
[04:41] <intelikey> deathnote no need to remove it.  but you can if you don't want to use the dvd as a source
[04:41] <ctw> that can rotate a page
[04:42] <Daskreech> ctw: Beautiful thanks
[04:42] <SpAwN> how can i reinsatll apache when im getting this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/437  ...is there a command that will reconfigure it?
[04:43] <Daskreech> Ha ha!!!
[04:43] <deathnote> what's the difference if i use dvd as source? means i won't need to download from net?
[04:43] <Daskreech>  it works
[04:43] <Branded_Atom> spawn, can you do a complete uninstall?
[04:43] <Branded_Atom> and try reinstalling?
[04:43] <user__> Branded_Atom: yahhhhhhhhh it doestn seem to be so starightforward
[04:44] <user__> lol
[04:44] <SpAwN> Branded_Atom, it is.....i uninstalled then like a idiot i erased the /etc/apache folder
[04:44] <user__> that brought me to a menu i dont think its the right thin
[04:44] <SpAwN> Branded_Atom, that is the reinstall
[04:44] <Branded_Atom> there IS a difference between uninstalling and complete uninstalling
[04:44] <SpAwN> Branded_Atom, oh......how do i compleatly uninstall
[04:45] <Branded_Atom> sorry user__, i've never tried to save a view mode
[04:45] <user__> crap, anyone else ever completely c hanged their view mode permanently?
[04:45] <user__> its cool though man, thanks for the input
[04:45] <Branded_Atom> spawn, use a graphical manger like adept_installer or synaptic and use the option "completely install"
[04:46] <SpAwN> Branded_Atom, Oh ok thanks. ill try
[04:46] <intelikey> SpAwN or apt-get remove -P apache
[04:47] <intelikey> --purge
[04:47] <intelikey> maybe -P is only dpkg
[04:47] <deathnote> no......update doesn't update from the cd...
[04:48] <Daskreech> It can
[04:48] <intelikey> update only updates the package database
[04:48] <user__> nvm, read up on it, found out how
[04:48] <Branded_Atom> can you share user?
[04:48] <Branded_Atom> for the future
[04:49] <user__> lol, well you were right.  konqueror will not auto save how you last left it after closing.  make the changes your want, ie view mode, then go to "save view profile v"web browsing"" and it will save those settings for the next time you open konqueror
[04:50] <user__> you have to close it after saving those settings, and then it will work from then on out
[04:50] <intelikey> yes or you can set it up to save the current on each exit....
[04:50] <deathnote> how to speed up my update?????
[04:50] <Branded_Atom> hehe yea, i figured you saw the "save" option
[04:51] <user__> true, but for me i just need one view mode
[04:51] <deathnote> apt-get update is taking long time as usual..and i thought using dvd to install is faster
[04:51] <user__> lol, well i didnt want to mess it up, so i decided to look it up.
[04:52] <Branded_Atom> good choice anyway ;)
[04:52] <intelikey> deathnote as i said  apt-get update   only updates the package database.   the database for the dvd doesn't need updated.... only the ones on the web.
[04:53] <Branded_Atom> update shouldn't take that long, maybe 90 seconds to 120 seconds
[04:53] <Branded_Atom> upgrade may take more
[04:53] <Branded_Atom> especially if its a first upgrade
[04:53] <intelikey> upgrade will take much longer.
[04:53] <deathnote> i need more than that for update..
[04:53] <deathnote> but downloading at 110kb/s average
[04:54] <Branded_Atom> and it doesn't make much sense to update a dvd package database
[04:54] <deathnote> wonder why i got so much things to update
[04:54] <Branded_Atom> have you added many repositories?
[04:54] <deathnote> sorry i think its upgrade
[04:54] <juancamilo> help....i'm trying to open kwrite form the konsole just typing kwrite, but:
[04:54] <juancamilo> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:54] <juancamilo> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:54] <juancamilo> kwrite: cannot connect to X server :0.
[04:55] <deathnote> i just..remove those # in my sources.list
[04:55] <deathnote> and added multiverse behind those which doesn't have
[04:55] <deathnote> that's all
[04:55] <juancamilo> anyone?
[04:56] <Branded_Atom> deathnote: so it was upgade afterall?
[04:56] <Branded_Atom> and not update?
[04:56] <intelikey> juancamilo yeah.  use kdesu  not sudo   but that will probably still error out.    so do this.     xhost +LOCAL: ;kdesu kwrite
[04:56] <Branded_Atom> that could take a bit especially if its a first upgrade or you haven't done one in a while
[04:57] <intelikey> or maybe you didn't sudo that to start with...
[04:57] <Branded_Atom> but do them regularly and they should be just 30 seconds or so
[04:57] <juancamilo> intelikey: it still error out
[04:57] <juancamilo> ???
[04:57] <deathnote> yea upgrade..
[04:57] <juancamilo> again, can not conec to x server....
[04:57] <deathnote> its the first upgrade..
[04:57] <deathnote> first time installing from dvd..and i see no difference in speed
[04:58] <Branded_Atom> speed of what?
[04:58] <deathnote> reduction in installation time
[04:58] <Branded_Atom> upgrades are always downloaded and installed, so i don't know what you're comparing to
[04:59] <intelikey> juancamilo xhost | grep LOCAL
[04:59] <Branded_Atom> are you trying to say you're upgrading from a dvd?
[04:59] <intelikey> juancamilo does that show anything ?
[04:59] <juancamilo> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:59] <juancamilo> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:59] <juancamilo> xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"
[05:00] <deathnote> yah upgrades are downloaded
[05:00] <deathnote> but installation is still the same
[05:00] <deathnote> what's the diff?
[05:00] <deathnote> between dvd n cd
[05:00] <juancamilo> intelikey??
[05:00] <Branded_Atom> so what are you comparing the speed to? i'm confused
[05:00] <deathnote> more packages, so? speed is the same
[05:01] <intelikey> juancamilo wrong display address ?
[05:01] <Branded_Atom> but the dvd isn't coming into play right now, as i understand it
[05:01] <juancamilo> what do u mean?
[05:01] <intelikey> juancamilo did you use  kmenu > switch users > start new session ?
[05:02] <juancamilo> intelikey. yes
[05:02] <deathnote> i'm comparing the speed of dvd and cd of course
[05:02] <deathnote> what's so confusing?
[05:02] <intelikey> then it's probably not :0*  it's probably :22*
[05:02] <Branded_Atom> but you're not using the cd or the dvd to upgrade
[05:03] <deathnote> either one i need to upgrade and either one is taking same amount of time
[05:03] <deathnote> and i thougth dvd have more packages than cd
[05:03] <deathnote> whatever
[05:03] <Branded_Atom> but the packages are at the same release
[05:03] <intelikey> juancamilo i don't play with X much,  you'll need to findout the exact display address and export DISPLAY=':22'    or what ever it is.
[05:03] <Branded_Atom> its probably me being stupid, just ignore mee
[05:04] <juancamilo> intelikey, sorry, i don't know how to do that..
[05:05] <intelikey> juancamilo  export DISPLAY=':22'  ;xhost
[05:06] <intelikey> juancamilo if that works,   is  LOCAL:  in one of the lines of output ?
[05:06] <juancamilo> xhost:  unable to open display ":22"
[05:06] <intelikey> then it's not 22
[05:06] <intelikey> :)
[05:07] <intelikey> there is a command that will tell you what it is....   but i don't recall it off the top of my head
[05:07] <juancamilo> :(
[05:07] <intelikey> ps ax | grep ' :'
[05:08] <intelikey> see what that says
[05:09] <juancamilo> grep command not found
[05:09] <NightBird> o_O
[05:09] <NightBird> wow..
[05:09] <NightBird> you don't have grep...
[05:09] <intelikey> me too night
[05:09] <juancamilo> ???
[05:09] <intelikey> ps ax | grep ' :'
[05:10] <juancamilo>  4070 tty7     Ss+    1:12 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-GKEo8B
[05:10] <juancamilo>  4984 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep  :
[05:10] <intelikey> hmm not listed there
[05:11] <juancamilo> ???
[05:11] <intelikey> idk.  someone else might know how to display the display info
[05:12] <BluesKaj> nite all, sack time for old guys
[05:12] <intelikey> oh   display
[05:12] <intelikey> duh
[05:12] <intelikey> no i guess not.
[05:13] <juancamilo> intelikey...thanks a lot anyways
[05:14] <Slynderdale> I just installed and selected a proprietary Nvidia TNT2 Pro driver and now my resolution was chaged to 800x600 when it was 1024 before
[05:14] <Slynderdale> When I try to go change it, it says 800x600 is the highest
[05:14] <juancamilo> ...how can i list the display info???
[05:15] <juancamilo> anyone?
[05:18] <newest007> hey there my system just crashed and rebooted from the splash screen, i checked the KSystemLog, and it gave me this: Internal error: memory corruption detected,  how do i go about fixing this?
[05:22] <dasickis> hey i was wondering how do you remove a program you build from source?
[05:23] <x04ty29er> newest007: what were you doing when it crashed
[05:23] <intelikey> dasickis you used make install ?
[05:23] <dasickis> yeah
[05:23] <newest007> i was just browsing the net
[05:23] <gumpo> I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and tried to run EasyUbuntu, but after i choose my options and press okay, nothing happens. Anyone know a workaround other then installing everything manually?
[05:23] <intelikey> make uninstall
[05:23] <x04ty29er> um
[05:23] <dasickis> really tahnks
[05:23] <intelikey> and hope they provided fro that
[05:23] <newest007> and looking at the Sysinfo system info
[05:23] <x04ty29er> more specifically.........?
[05:23] <x04ty29er> hm
[05:24] <dasickis> because i was trying to install aterm from source
[05:24] <x04ty29er> join channel rx435 and post the error report
[05:24] <dasickis> but i didn't look clearly (stupid of me) and it just screwed up my sound system
[05:24] <dasickis> i'm not sure how
[05:24] <dasickis> the Afterstep Terminal Emulator
[05:25] <Slynderdale> I just installed and selected a proprietary Nvidia TNT2 Pro driver and now my resolution was changed to 800x600 when it was 1024 before
[05:25] <Slynderdale> When I try to go change it, it says 800x600 is the highest
[05:25] <juancamilo> when i try to open kwrite it says: cannot connect to x server...
[05:25] <juancamilo> how can i fix that?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> how are you trying to run it?
[05:27] <juancamilo> kwrite in the konsole
[05:27] <intelikey> juancamilo you will have to tell it what the address is to the xserver you are in.   seeing that you opened another session it inheireted the settings from the first session and it can't connect to it...  so export the correct address and it will work.
[05:27] <intelikey> and no i don't know what command to issue to find out the address
[05:27] <jbruckman> does anyone know of a linux editor that works about the same as frontpage(but of course better)
[05:28] <intelikey> juancamilo you can ask in #ubuntu also
[05:28] <[R] eaper> i need help with my ati card
[05:28] <dasickis> well as I said before my sound was totally f*d by the Afterstep emulator is there a way to figure out what's wrong?
[05:29] <intelikey> Dr_willis did you know how to find out what the x server address is ?    :0  is default  but this is a second session... ?
[05:29] <Slynderdale> ANyone here know how I can get a resolution higher then 800x600?
[05:29] <juancamilo> intelikey, i look for it, thanks again
[05:30] <intelikey> stdin could tell ya if he was here
[05:30] <willy_> alguien sabe como configurar mi camara para el amsn
[05:30] <x04ty29er> Slynderdale: make sure you have the right drivers
[05:30] <willy_> solo que no puedo
[05:30] <willy_> porfa
[05:30] <Branded_Atom> !es
[05:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:31] <x04ty29er> and go to channel rx435 and post your xorg.conf
[05:32] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  Hmm... grep for running X sessions?
[05:32] <Slynderdale> x04ty29er: I have the Nvidia Legacy drivers for the TNT2 as stated on the Ubuntu site
[05:32] <Slynderdale> I'll post my xorg.conf file
[05:32] <intelikey> Dr_willis i tried that first  only thing showing is X :0
[05:32] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  the  2nd one should be :1 i guess.. and so on.. but not sure how to tell from a X session exactly what it is.. except perhaps checking the  DISPLAY variable.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> ive rarely ran more then 1 session
[05:32] <x04ty29er> Slynderdale:
[05:32] <x04ty29er> lol
[05:32] <[R] eaper> i need help with my ati card, http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2438/instantnea3kx2.jpg
[05:33] <x04ty29er> sry i forgot about that
[05:33] <x04ty29er> post the part under
[05:33] <x04ty29er> one
[05:33] <x04ty29er> sec
[05:33] <intelikey> Dr_willis wasn't :1 on this system  and i don't think it is on juancamilo's either
[05:33] <NightBird> and what do you need help with?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> [R] eaper,  and the problem with your ati x1600 is?
[05:33] <[R] eaper> the screen errors
[05:34] <intelikey> juancamilo do    export DISPLAY=':1' ;xhost
[05:34] <[R] eaper> system crash on glxgears
[05:34] <intelikey> just to make sure it's not :1
[05:34] <NightBird> does glxinfo tell you anything?
[05:35] <NightBird> like... does it crash? or does it say you are using the ATI proprietary drivers? or..
[05:35] <[R] eaper> ati radeon x1600, direct renderiong: yes, etc etc etc
[05:35] <willy_> #kubuntu-es
[05:35] <intelikey> NightBird you may be onto something there.
[05:35] <jtmoney> okay, i installed the i386 version of 6.10 on my amd64... even after enabling all the repositories and fetching updates (and apt-get update), i STILL cannot see ivtv-source or mythtv, though i know they are there... what does this have to do with my 64-bit machine? i can see these packages from my 32-bit laptop
[05:36] <intelikey> juancamilo     glxinfo | grep -i 'name of display'
[05:36] <jtmoney> E: Couldn't find package ivtv-source == what i get when i type sudo apt-get install ivtv-source
[05:38] <jtmoney> The drawbacks are that Ubuntu, with APT (the package manager for Ubuntu), currently does not support BiArch, which means you likely won't be able to install and run 32bit packages on your AMD64 install. This is a problem for users who wish to use Flash, w32 codecs, and WINE (for example), as they are only available for 32-bit. There are possible methods of getting it running, but they involve creating a chroot (see DebootstrapChroot),
[05:38] <jtmoney> for example. ... what if i installed the 32-bit version on my amd64? this shouldn't affect me, right?
[05:39] <intelikey> !chroot
[05:39] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:39] <intelikey> you can install in there
[05:39] <jtmoney> but if i installed the i386 iso on my amd64, i shouldn't have to do that, right?
[05:39] <[R] eaper> ok, take a look now http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg
[05:39] <intelikey> right
[05:40] <jtmoney> well, i still cannot see the ivtv-source and mythtv packages from this machine
[05:40] <jtmoney> the cd is labelled "i386"
[05:40] <jtmoney> i don't know what else i can do
[05:40] <intelikey> i*86 should work on k8 as well as it would on a comperable k7
[05:41] <juancamilo> intelikey, is not the 1 and with the other i got this: : error: unable to open display (null)
[05:41] <jtmoney> k, let me explain here... i could not see certain packages (namely, ivtv-source and mythtv) on my amd64 with 64-bit install
[05:41] <jtmoney> i can see them on my 32-bit lappy
[05:41] <intelikey> display (null) ???
[05:41] <jtmoney> so i reinstalled the 32-bit kubuntu os on my amd64 and enabled all the repositories and i still can't see them
[05:41] <intelikey> juancamilo you are not in a console (tty) are you ?
[05:42] <willy_> allguien de uds me puede ayudar
[05:42] <willy_> solo que me urge mucho
[05:42] <willy_> me pueden ayudar
[05:42] <willy_> con mi web cam
[05:42] <willy_> porfa
[05:42] <jtmoney> !spanish
[05:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:42] <[R] eaper> <NightBird>: look http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg
[05:42] <intelikey> jtmoney you updated the databases after you edited the sources.list ?
[05:43] <jtmoney> i ran sudo apt-get update
[05:43] <jtmoney> and "fetch updates" from adept
[05:43] <jtmoney> is there something else i'm supposed to do?
[05:43] <juancamilo> intelikey im in a konsole...why?
[05:43] <intelikey> jtmoney also you can have ubotu search for packages /msg ubotu find whatever
[05:44] <[R] eaper> anyone can help me with this?? http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg
[05:44] <intelikey> juancamilo cause display (null) is the error message i get from glxinfo in a console
[05:44] <jtmoney> yeah, it found ivtv-source... problem is, it's not appearing in my adept
[05:44] <jtmoney> i know it exists, i can see it on my 32-bit box
[05:44] <NightBird> [R] eaper, disable the composite extension
[05:44] <NightBird> restart the xserver
[05:44] <NightBird> that looks very similar to what happens when I use the proprietary driver+composites
[05:45] <juancamilo> ???....
[05:45] <willy_> juancamilo me podes ayudar porfa
[05:45] <juancamilo> con que?
[05:45] <[R] eaper> ok, i will try that
[05:45] <NightBird> /etc/X11/xorg.conf:  Add a section called Extensions with the option Composite set to false
[05:45] <willy_> esque fijate que no se ni como componer mi camara webcam aka en kubuntu
[05:46] <willy_> para usarla en los chat porque a veces me sirve
[05:46] <SpAwN> what is the default spot apache uses?... /var/www/ doesnt seem to be it....i had the default index.html in there and erased it and its still displaying on the site
[05:46] <willy_> y eso me esta obligando a usar el msn live en windows
[05:46] <willy_> no dejen que eso pase porfa
[05:46] <juancamilo> que dice cuando la conectas?
[05:46] <willy_> pues me conecto con el amsn
[05:46] <NightBird> SpAwN, that depends on where you tell it to look at...
[05:47] <NightBird> there should be something in the apache configuration files... make sure it's pointing at that directory
[05:47] <juancamilo> intelikey, i didn't understood whats wrong?
[05:47] <SpAwN> NightBird, hmm allright....i think i need to redo the conf
[05:47] <dasickis> hey can someone help me configure suspend
[05:47] <juancamilo> willy, ????cuando conectas la camara no la reconoce solo el kubuntu?
[05:47] <NightBird> dasickis, sure can't.... mine wasn't working, then I upgraded to the new kernel and everything works now... :P
[05:48] <dasickis> to feisty?
[05:48] <NightBird> [R] eaper, any better?
[05:48] <willy_> pues le doy que me configure
[05:48] <NightBird> dasickis, no, I mean the actual linux kernel
[05:49] <juancamilo> intelikey...im just frustated
[05:49] <willy_> y dice que me encuetro detras de un muro de fuego de un ruteador
[05:49] <willy_> y no se en realidad como activarla
[05:49] <case> hola , alguien sabe como instalar uira?
[05:49] <willy_> ya me meti al synaptic e instale webcam y webcamd
[05:49] <willy_> pero no nada
[05:49] <juancamilo> miraste en la documentacion de kubuntu
[05:50] <willy_> no se que onda
[05:50] <Slynderdale> ANyone here know how I can get a resolution higher then 800x600?
[05:50] <willy_> no donde puedo ver tenes algun link para por lo menos guiarme
[05:51] <dasickis> NightBird: to what kernel did you update to?
[05:51] <intelikey> juancamilo i stand under you with full synphony.       does xvinfo display any information ?
[05:51] <dasickis> NightBird: because I tried to update the kernel but when I boot up it just failed
[05:52] <NightBird> sad day
[05:52] <NightBird> [R] eaper, it any better?
[05:52] <[R] eaper> no :(
[05:52] <dasickis> i used the http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[05:52] <[R] eaper> im on vesa
[05:52] <dasickis> tutorial
[05:52] <juancamilo> willy, www.kubuntu.org/documentation
[05:52] <NightBird> dasickis, ah, I just installed from the repository, so I don't know how to help you for having compiled the kernel itself..
[05:53] <juancamilo> o depronto esto, http://vegdave.wordpress.com/tag/technology/os/linux/ubuntu/
[05:53] <dasickis> well its back to normal now
[05:53] <dasickis> ok
[05:53] <juancamilo> intelikey, unable to open display ;1
[05:53] <willy_> alguien que me ayude porfqa
[05:53] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to compile a kernel module on Dapper running 2.6.15-28-k7. I installed linux-source and -headers but get a lot of compiler errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5870/   ---   Any idea?
[05:54] <dasickis> NightBird: I have 2.6.17-11-generic
[05:54] <intelikey> juancamilo hit ctrl+alt+f7 and try it.   if it lists two displays  ctrl+alt+f8 to get back to the one you are in now.
[05:54] <Slynderdale> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:54] <Slynderdale> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:54] <Slynderdale> Segmentation fault
[05:54] <Slynderdale> What does that mean?
[05:55] <NightBird> [R] eaper, you disabled composites in the xorg.conf file, right?
[05:55] <[R] eaper> yes
[05:55] <NightBird> hm... no idea then...
[05:55] <[R] eaper>         Option      "Composite" "0"
[05:56] <NightBird> er... is that in it's own section labled "Extensions"?
[05:56] <juancamilo> intelikey, that was weird
[05:56] <NightBird> and also, I don't know about 0, but I know "false" disabled it for me..
[05:56] <intelikey> what did it call the displays juancamilo ?
[05:56] <Slynderdale> Can someone take a look at my xorg.conf and see if they can figure out why I'm stuck at only a 800x600 resolution and get GLX errors when I open some applications? http://pastebin.ca/356616
[05:56] <[R] eaper> "false" did not work
[05:57] <NightBird> and it's own section?
[05:57] <[R] eaper> yes, its on is own section
[05:57] <NightBird> any messages in dmesg?
[05:57] <NightBird> or in the xorg log file?
[05:57] <[R] eaper> Section "Extensions"
[05:57] <[R] eaper>  Option      "Composite" "0"
[05:57] <[R] eaper> EndSection
[05:58] <intelikey> juancamilo ?
[05:58] <NightBird> alright, that looks fine...
[05:59] <juancamilo> intellkey, there are no displays listed
[05:59] <juancamilo> ???
[05:59] <dasickis> NightBird: I get this error when I try sudo s2disk "suspend: Could not stat the resume device file"
[05:59] <ForgeAus> what package has kcmdisplay?
[05:59] <intelikey> juancamilo did you run    glxinfo | grep -i 'display name'      in the other session ?
[06:00] <willy_> alguien sabe como hacerce usuario ubuntu o kubuntu
[06:00] <intelikey> errr oops  NOT name.   just      glxinfo | grep -i 'display'
[06:01] <intelikey> else you get nothing.
[06:01] <intelikey> and 'name of display' short changes you.
[06:02] <juancamilo> when ctrl alt f8, i can't execute anything
[06:03] <juancamilo> in ctrl alt f8 it says: Error: unable to open display (null)
[06:03] <juancamilo> willy, que clase de usuario
[06:04] <juancamilo> willy_???
[06:04] <intelikey> juancamilo that's where the konsole is running,   right ?      open a konsole in tty7 (ctrl+alt+f7)   and type in               glxinfo | grep -i 'display'
[06:05] <willy_> para tener usuario linux
[06:06] <willy_> no solo en mi compu sino poder entrar a las paginas y todo eso en internet
[06:06] <willy_> aparte que quiero ser usuario linux y tener un numero de registro
[06:06] <intelikey> get the information for the second display  (i.e. NOT :0 but the other one)   and switch back to tty8 (ctrl+alt+f8)     export DISPLAY=':?'   where ? it the correct info.     then you should be able to run commands in the konsole in tty8....
[06:06] <intelikey> that's where all that started and ends.
[06:07] <juancamilo> im in tt7 and in tt8 i can not run anything...
[06:07] <intelikey> nothing in 7 either ?
[06:08] <intelikey> glxinfo doesn't work in tty7 ?
[06:08] <juancamilo> i can only work in tt7 in tt8 nothing happens
[06:08] <intelikey> xhost    doesn't work in tty7 ?
[06:08] <draik> What do I need for quicktime? I have installed all the packages on my friend's computer that I have and still no quicktime video
[06:08] <intelikey> exactly.  so read what i wrote and try it.  ^
[06:11] <intelikey> your first xsession is in tty7   the second one in tty8    third...    but xorg has a problem updating the environment for the konsole when you open a new xsession    when you get this to work one time.  you can pretty much remember that you have to export the correct DISPLAY=  then it will all work...
[06:11] <NightBird> .... for some reason I smell turkey...
[06:11] <NightBird> brb
[06:12] <intelikey> i'm not a developer so i don't know why xorg has trubble with that.    also i don't use a gui very much so it's low priority for me.
[06:13] <juancamilo> intelikey, so tt8 does not work for me, i tryed tt6 and i got the same error than before
[06:13] <ForgeAus> intellikey how do you manage without a gui? you must have a good memory!
[06:14] <intelikey> juancamilo wait.   you tried tty6  ???    tty6 would be a console.    i did ask you specificly if you meant console or konsole      console != konsole
[06:15] <intelikey> did i miss something ?
[06:15] <intelikey> ForgeAus idk.   i seem to have forgotten enough to fill a small librarry
[06:16] <ForgeAus> lol
[06:17] <juancamilo> intelikey. im now in tt6 using kde desktop and inside it a konsole, i tryed tt6 which is a console....
[06:17] <juancamilo> tt8 does not work at all
[06:18] <juancamilo> i can type anything there but nothing happends
[06:18] <intelikey> juancamilo you do remember answering whether or not you had went to     kmenu > switch users > start new session      and you said "yes... "  ^
[06:19] <intelikey> so all this time i have been working on the wrong end of this thing.... ?
[06:19] <intelikey> close the konsole  and open a new one   then  type     glxinfo    see if it works.
[06:21] <dasickis> is there a way to get my tv tuner to work with ubuntu using ndiswrapper?
[06:21] <dasickis> I know that ndiswrapper is for wireless cards but just wondering
[06:22] <juancamilo> intelikey, it listed xlib ...but everything is 0
[06:22] <intelikey> and   kwrite    will start now ?
[06:23] <juancamilo> it does...thanks a lot
[06:23] <juancamilo> sorry, for taking so long...you rock
[06:24] <intelikey> you are quite welcome.
[06:25] <surgy> can someone be kind enough to help me compile a program?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> any details on the issue surgy ?
[06:25] <surgy> dr_willis: i have no idea where to start :)
[06:27] <surgy> !compile
[06:27] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:27] <surgy> there we go
[06:27] <surgy> thank you dr_willis
[06:27] <Dr_willis> install build-essential also
[06:27] <juancamilo> intelikey...i know...it doesn't feel good at all when you waste so much time in just a little thing...thanks again
[06:27] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[06:27] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:28] <Dr_willis> so you dont want 'help' you want 'hand-held' :)
[06:28] <intelikey> juancamilo we'll try to do better next time.    communication is the key to good support.
[06:29] <intelikey> it's also the key to good relations
[06:29] <juancamilo> intelikey...have a good night
[06:29] <intelikey> you too
[06:29] <juancamilo> bye bye everyone
[06:33] <draik> What do I need for quicktime? I have installed all the packages on my friend's computer that I have and still no quicktime video
[06:33] <intelikey> why do gui configs default to 9 point fonts... i know this is just a 17" screen but 9 point is too tiny to see...
[06:34] <raylu> intelikey, did you get my memo?
[06:34] <intelikey> yes i did.
[06:34] <raylu> wooz hooz.
[06:34] <intelikey> thanks for passing that on.
[06:34] <surgy> configure: error: Please verify your Qt devel install!           <<<< this means i need to get the package qt-devel right?
[06:36] <intelikey> prolly  qt4-dev-tools  ?
[06:36] <surgy> ill try that
[06:37] <intelikey> surgy i'm not sure on that one.
[06:37] <surgy> that wasnt it
[06:37] <surgy> >> Unable to locate your Qt includes...
[06:37] <surgy> configure: error: Please verify your Qt devel install!
[06:37] <intelikey> could be    libqt3-mt-dev
[06:37] <intelikey>  i really don't know for sure.
[06:38] <surgy> so does every source file contain a configure script? becuase personally mine dont :)
[06:38] <intelikey> normally   apt-cache search "<key phrase from error>"    will show you what you need...
[06:39] <surgy> intelikey ok
[06:39] <noiesmo> hey all, had a hard drive failure, well my ext3 is now ext2 my data appears ok but I would like to convert to ext3 again is this possible without lossing any data
[06:39] <surgy> that last package you gave me made it go a little further
[06:39] <surgy> now i get
[06:39] <surgy> error: Something wicked happened while trying to validate your Qt installation!!! Please verify your libraries..
[06:40] <Dr_willis> noiesmo,  you can use tunefs (i recall) to convert from ext2 to 3
[06:40] <Dr_willis> or was it tune2fs?
[06:40] <noiesmo> Dr_willis, k will read up on tune2fs/tunefs
[06:40] <surgy> intelikey: apt-cache search "<qt>" didnt show anything
[06:40] <Dr_willis> its tune2fs
[06:41] <Dr_willis> -j     Add  an  ext3  journal  to  the  filesystem.
[06:41] <kaatil> is firefox 2.0.0.1 is out for kubuntu yet?
[06:41] <intelikey> surgy not <>    that generally means <translate from here to here>    unless it's a real redirrect.
[06:41] <noiesmo> Dr_willis, yeah tune2fs -j /dev/hdb1
[06:41] <kaatil> i am on dapper btw.
[06:42] <intelikey> surgy like this#   apt-cache search  'Qt devel' | grep 'Qt devel'
[06:42] <intelikey> you can omit the pipe for more results
[06:42] <surgy> intelikey: from there website "Make sure you have qt-3.0.5-17.i386.rpm and qt-devel-3.0.5-17.i386.rpm installed."
[06:42] <intelikey> surgy like this#   apt-cache search 'Qt devel'
[06:43] <surgy> will that package be in our repos?
[06:43] <intelikey> surgy qt-devel   is not a package in *buntu
[06:43] <intelikey> !find qt-devel
[06:43] <ubotu> Package/file qt-devel does not exist in edgy
[06:43] <kaatil> !find firefox
[06:43] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-in, mozilla-firefox-locale-ca (and 57 others)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> it has some odd funky name
[06:44] <surgy> qt devel does?
[06:44] <intelikey> libqt3-mt-dev
[06:44] <Dr_willis> i recall some asking that in here the other day.. it wasent a logical name.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> see
[06:44] <Dr_willis> i got NO idea where -mt- comes from
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !find libqt
[06:44] <ubotu> Found: libqt-perl, libqt3-compat-headers, libqt3-headers, libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev (and 26 others)
[06:44] <surgy> thats kindof retarded
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !info libqt3-mt
[06:45] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3064 kB, installed size 8712 kB
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Multi-threaded I guess
[06:45] <intelikey> yeah threaded
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !info libqt3
[06:45] <ubotu> Package libqt3 does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !info libqt3-dev
[06:45] <ubotu> Package libqt3-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !find libqt3
[06:45] <ubotu> Found: libqt3-compat-headers, libqt3-headers, libqt3-mt, libqt3-mt-dev, libqt3-i18n (and 6 others)
[06:45] <surgy> but obviously thats not the one i need
[06:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:46] <surgy> i sudo apt-get install [that package]  and it 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:46] <intelikey> lol
[06:46] <surgy> but im still getting errors about it in configure
[06:46] <Dr_willis> its possible the ./configure script needs some optuons to tell it where to look
[06:46] <Dr_willis> what are you compiling?
[06:46] <surgy> showeq
[06:46] <Dr_willis> got a url?
[06:47] <surgy> hold on
[06:47] <surgy> http://sourceforge.net/projects/seq/   and http://www.showeq.net
[06:48] <intelikey> apt-cache search qt | grep '^qt'       is kinda revealing...
[06:49] <Dr_willis> ShowEQ or SEQ for short is a program designed to decode the EverQuest data stream
[06:49] <Dr_willis> ICK..
[06:49] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:49] <surgy> lol
[06:49] <surgy> intelikey: i got tons of stuff after typing  apt-cache search qt | grep '^qt'
[06:49] <intelikey> qt3-apps-dev - Qt3 Developer applications development files   <<< might help.
[06:50] <surgy> intelikey trying now
[06:51] <surgy> qt3-apps-dev is already the newest version.
[06:51] <surgy> E: Couldn't find package Qt3
[06:51] <surgy> lol this is why i hate compiling, but seq is only offered as source
[06:52] <intelikey> hmmm
[06:52] <Jucato> libqt3-mt-dev
[06:52] <Jucato> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[06:52] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB
[06:52] <intelikey> Jucato we covered that long ago ^
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Im thinking tha programs ./configure is brain dead..
[06:52] <Dr_willis> ive compiled dozens of apps so i got most all the qt stuff installed
[06:52] <intelikey> Dr_willis i'll drink to that.
[06:52] <Jucato> ok, if you say so
[06:53] <surgy> dr_willis and your still getting the same error?
[06:53] <surgy> i allready have libqt3-mt-dev jucato
[06:53] <Dr_willis> >> Unable to locate your Qt includes...
[06:53] <Dr_willis> configure: error: Please verify your Qt devel install!
 could be    libqt3-mt-dev
[06:53] <intelikey> Jucato ^
[06:53] <Jucato> really looks like a configure script problem
[06:54] <surgy> yea i got past that now im at "
[06:54] <surgy> configure: WARNING: Qt documenation not installed?!
[06:54] <surgy> configure: error: Something wicked happened while trying to validate your Qt installation!!! Please verify your libraries...
[06:54] <Jucato> qt3-doc?
[06:54] <surgy> should i ignore that?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> could install kde-dev :)
[06:55] <intelikey> qt3-doc - Qt3 API documentation
[06:55] <surgy> dr_willis: whats that?
[06:55] <Jucato> warnings could be ignored... but errors no...
[06:55] <intelikey> qt4-doc - Qt 4 API documentation
[06:55] <Jucato> !kde-devel
[06:55] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[06:55] <Jucato> hm...
[06:55] <intelikey> surgy i did mention   qt4-dev-tools - Qt 4 development tools
[06:56] <intelikey> didnt i
[06:56] <Dr_willis> looks like a large   meta-package that installs a LOT of the kde dev files
[06:56] <it-stuff> hallo, guys..
[06:56] <Dr_willis> My system is so messed up.. i cant even isntall a lot of the stuff now..
[06:56] <surgy> intelikey yes and i have them
[06:56] <intelikey> k
[06:56] <Dr_willis> got kde 3.6.6 i think that messed some things
[06:56] <Slynderdale> Whats the command to mount a windows NTFS drive?
[06:56] <surgy> man i wished i could get this to compile
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Slynderdale: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /mntpoint iirc
[06:57] <Dr_willis> surgy,  so you can cheat at EQ?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:57] <surgy> slynderdale mount -1
[06:57] <intelikey> mount /dev/device  /mount/point
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:57] <surgy> mount -a
[06:57] <intelikey> !ntfs | Slynderdale
[06:57] <ubotu> Slynderdale: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:57] <surgy> dr_willis: so i can cheat on my own server on eq :)
[06:57] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | Slynderdale
[06:57] <ubotu> Slynderdale: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:58] <intelikey> !fuse | Slynderdale
[06:58] <ubotu> Slynderdale: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:58] <surgy> this sucks
[06:58] <Dr_willis> surgy,  the fact you run your own EQ server   ..... no.. i wont even GO there....
[06:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:58] <intelikey> Jucato i thought that 2.6.10 did...
[06:59] <Dr_willis> The Ubuntu technical board has decided to forgo the inclusion of a compositing window manager and proprietary video drivers in the default installation of the upcoming Ubuntu release.
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> we are on 2.6.20
[06:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[06:59] <Dr_willis> bummer
[06:59] <Jucato> intelikey: built in? afaik no
[06:59] <Jucato> Dr_willis: yay! :P
[06:59] <surgy> dr_willis: lol purely reverse enginneered software... if thats what your talking about, no copywritten anything.....
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> they can handle it. but by default, no
[06:59] <Jucato> Dr_willis: see sabdfl's blog for more accurate details
[06:59] <draik> Where can I get help for viewing quicktime?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> surgy,  tell that to the makers of that free battle.net alternative.. that got killed off..
[07:00] <Jucato> draik!!! damn I don't know what else to do for you :(
[07:00] <it-stuff> somebody help me, how to connect printer in the network using kubuntu, pls..?
[07:00] <draik> Hey Jucato
[07:00] <surgy> dr_willis: lol anyways, seq is obviously free....... and open source, im not asking for help on "grey areas"
[07:00] <Dr_willis> surgy,  looks like its badly written also
[07:01] <surgy> dr_willis: im not that smart...... to be able to make sense out of it
[07:01] <mem_> I have sound!!!! :D
[07:01] <Slynderdale> I tried mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r and it said I didn't have permission to read the drive
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> mem_: sweet!
[07:01] <intelikey> Dr_willis it doesn't by any chance have an install script does it ?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Slynderdale,  use 'sudo mount .....'
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> mem_: i couldn't try to help you, i was in class but I saw your problem
[07:01] <surgy> dr_willis, i just want it to configure and make :(
[07:01] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i looked at the install docs... and decided to not try much more with it.
[07:01] <mem_> Admiral_Chicago: All I had to do was uncheck external amplifier... >.<
[07:02] <Dr_willis> surgy,  find the windows version and use wine :)
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> ah, an easy fix
[07:02] <intelikey> Dr_willis heh
[07:02] <mem_> Admiral_Chicago: Hey that's OK :). I just blew out my ear drums though lol
[07:02] <surgy> dr_willis i did it reuires ms .net framwork so i get mono and still no luck no errors or anything
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> i bet it was the best time you ever had blowing out your ear drums
[07:03] <ForgeAus> I think there is a way of installing .net framework into wine... but I havn't got it working yet
[07:03] <mem_> Admiral_Chicago: hehe one of the most recent, but definitely worth it after the last few days.
[07:03] <intelikey> what's ".net framework" ?
[07:04] <ForgeAus> its a set of libraries basically
[07:04] <ForgeAus> mono is a *nix implementation of it..
[07:04] <mem_> Admiral_Chicago: I ended up having to reinstall kubuntu (coz I'm noobish and thats the only way I know to get rid of it) due to numerous installations of ALSA drivers
[07:04] <intelikey> hmmm
[07:04] <ForgeAus> basically provides a CLR (common language runtime) environment for apps
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> alsa is very nice though
[07:04] <surgy> forgeaus: but it doesnt let myseq run
[07:05] <ForgeAus> I don't know anything about myseq...
[07:05] <mem_> Yep. I've installed it scratch so many times now I think I could do it from memory. Which is useless, since it comes with kubuntu packages anyway
[07:05] <ForgeAus> you would probably need .net framework for windows installed into your wine to use it that way
[07:05] <ForgeAus> there was some work on a mono bridge for wine
[07:07] <Dr_willis> !find webstart
[07:07] <ForgeAus> well the forum for it is useless
[07:07] <ubotu> Package/file webstart does not exist in edgy
[07:07] <ForgeAus> need to register to od anything!
[07:07] <deathnote> !mfs
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <deathnote> !mdf
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i found a game that uses 'java web start'  jnlp file... i think ive had these working befor on linux...
[07:08] <deathnote> !mount
[07:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:08] <deathnote> anyone knows how to mount a .mdf file?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> but dont seem to have the java webstart any more in my menus.. (may of been on a different machine/disrto)
[07:08] <Dr_willis> deathnote,  as far as i knwo - you cant. it has extra info in it.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> deathnote,  could try renaming it to .iso and try the loop stuff.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !iso
[07:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[07:09] <Slynderdale> root@john-desktop:~# gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:09] <Slynderdale> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:09] <Slynderdale> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[07:09] <deathnote> k
[07:09] <Slynderdale> What would cause that?
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> nothing
[07:09] <ForgeAus> hmmm myseq is based on ShowEQ for linux?
[07:09] <ForgeAus> why not get showeq?
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> well actually, opening from the command line will do it
[07:10] <surgy> nope.... no luck
[07:10] <surgy> looks like no seq for me :(
[07:10] <surgy> forgeaus: showeq wont compile
[07:10] <ForgeAus> ouch.. that sounds nasty
[07:11] <ForgeAus> looks like its geared towards rpm/ebuild packages anyway
[07:11] <deathnote> so i rename which file to iso? mdf or mds ?
[07:11] <ForgeAus> can you do any of that kinda stuff with kasbar?
[07:12] <ForgeAus> and or ksysguard
[07:13] <Slynderdale> DOes this look right for fstab? /dev/hda1   /media/windows     ntfs   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[07:13] <deathnote> !kiso
[07:13] <ubotu> kiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 343 kB, installed size 1048 kB
[07:14] <Dr_willis> deathnote,  i would guess the larger file
[07:14] <ForgeAus> if it was a slackware .tgz file you could probably just copy the binaries in the right place and it'd likely work!...
[07:15] <ForgeAus> but then even for slackware source packages can be a problem
[07:15] <deathnote> i tried using kiso.. but running kiso it will give an error "Could not find mime type, application/octet-stream"
[07:15] <Jucato> surgy: any luck finding .deb packages for showeq instead?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> deathnote, try 'file whatever.mds' and see what it thinks it is. you may NOT be able to convert the thing with any linux tools
[07:16] <surgy> jucato: nope
[07:16] <deathnote> sigh.. i try to mount it but couldn't
[07:16] <deathnote> both files
[07:16] <doc_> hi: kdesu chmod (??user) /media/290/           <--------- help, I can't  viw my HD USB !!
[07:16] <deathnote> thought it would be best to convert to iso..
[07:16] <Dr_willis> deathnote,  that may not even be doable..
[07:16] <Dr_willis> thats a special drive/disk/image format for copy protected cd/dvds theres a lot of extra info in there.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> im not even sure how well documented the format is.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> since i know of 2 tools that use it.
[07:17] <deathnote> ok this is a warcraft.mdf/mds file..its a very small file
[07:17] <deathnote> suppose to fake a warcraft cd
[07:17] <deathnote> so that my game can run
[07:17] <doc_> hi: kdesu chmod (single user) /media/290/           <--------- help, I can't  view my HD USB !! only root
[07:17] <Dr_willis> you mean warcraft i, ii or iii?
[07:17] <deathnote> wc3..
[07:18] <Dr_willis> deathnote,  just go get a no-cd-crack for it.
[07:18] <deathnote> i have the disc..
[07:18] <deathnote> no cd crack wouldn't allow me to play battlenet..sigh
[07:18] <deathnote> i have the cd
[07:18] <Dr_willis> i hate cd copy protection.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> and i really HATE battlenet.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:18] <deathnote> i just don't wanna put the disc in all the time
[07:18] <Dr_willis> you are trying to play this under linxu with wine?
[07:19] <deathnote> yup.....its running
[07:19] <surgy> deathnote: lol try a better rts?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> dd the original cd to an .iso file perhaps..
[07:19] <surgy> cedega will run WC3
[07:20] <deathnote> what's rts
[07:20] <Dr_willis> he dosent want to use the CD for the copy protection.. is the issue
[07:20] <surgy> real time strategy
[07:20] <deathnote> will the iso be big? after using dd
[07:20] <surgy> ?
[07:20] <surgy> why dont you want to use the cd?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> it sill be the size of the cd. :)
[07:20] <deathnote> i wnat those..real small iso files which can fake
[07:20] <intelikey> deathnote the size of the disk
[07:20] <deathnote> hehe..because the cd is not mine.....hahaha
[07:20] <Dr_willis> deathnote,  that uses some special features of the daemontools. or alcohol120 program.
[07:21] <doc_> hi: kdesu chmod (single user) /media/290/           <--------- help, I can't  view my HD USB !! only root
[07:21] <Dr_willis> just converting them to a .iso will NOT get you around the copy protection
[07:21] <surgy> deathnote: rip to iso then mount  with virtual cdrom its easy
[07:21] <Dr_willis> even a .iso may not pass the copy protection checks
[07:21] <deathnote> sigh.....
[07:21] <intelikey> doc_ what fs ?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> now you know why i dont do much windows-gaming any more
[07:21] <deathnote> anyway to get daemontool running?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> deathnote,  doubtfull
[07:22] <intelikey> doc_ you can't chmod M$ krap.
[07:22] <deathnote> making a copy of the disc need a pattern file also..i think
[07:22] <intelikey> doc_ M$ crap has no permissions bit
[07:22] <surgy> deathnote: your best bet whould be to either one: forget about battle.net and use a no cd patch, or two: go pay 15$ and get a copy
[07:23] <Dr_willis> 'the mounting of a ntfs/vfat filesystem - requires the use of the umask, and other options to 'fake' the linux file permissions and ownership information'
[07:23] <intelikey> doc_ man mount   and scroll down to   FILESYSTEM SPECIFIC MOUNT OPTIONS   and read
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:23] <Dr_willis> has lots of nice examples as well
[07:23] <deathnote> !deamon
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deamon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <deathnote> !daemontool
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daemontool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <raylu> lol, deathnote
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !google
[07:24] <surgy> why do you guys even use the konsole to mount and manage hard drives? especially ntfs ones?
[07:24] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[07:24] <deathnote> !alcohol120
[07:24] <raylu> surgy, what do you use?
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alcohol120 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <raylu> deathnote, there is something called cdemu, I believe, that will do it
[07:24] <Dr_willis> surgy,  because i can do it in less time then it takes you to ask that question.
[07:24] <deathnote> i know.....!! use wine to run daemon tool
[07:24] <raylu> but I can't get it to mount it as a cd.
[07:24] <intelikey> doc_ and more specifically in "man mount"   Mount options for fat
[07:24] <deathnote> and use daemon tool to mount mdf file
[07:24] <raylu> deathnote, ...no. =\
[07:24] <deathnote> hahaha
[07:24] <Slynderdale> How do you place a recycle bin icon on the desktop?
[07:25] <surgy> raylu: there is a gui for it in kdemenu >> system settings >> filesystems and disks
[07:25] <Dr_willis> using wine to run dawmon tools? that would be... interesting.
[07:25] <raylu> surgy, oh. Console is easier.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Slynderdale,  i so perfer it on the panel now.. that i even try to set up other disrtos that way.
[07:25] <surgy> dr_willis: but can you mount an ipod unmount your ntfs drive and listen to amarok all in one konsole? with an eq server running at 512mb ram? in one konsole?
[07:26] <surgy> yeah console is easier
 why do you guys even use the konsole to mount and manage hard drives? especially ntfs ones?...   i don't .   i use a console for everything
[07:26] <Dr_willis> surgy,  yes you can.
[07:26] <surgy> but comming from windows guis are nice
[07:26] <surgy> intelikey: the i use a console for eveything was you speaking right?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> whichis easyer to tell someone how to do somthing.. typing a command in the console.. or describing how to click down 3 menu levels, and a few tabs.. then finding a 'advanced button'
[07:27] <intelikey> yes
[07:27] <surgy> ok
[07:27] <surgy> agreed dr_willis
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Comming from Windows - i find windows often   has some VERY badly done  'standard ways of doing things' :)
[07:27] <surgy> lol also agreed
[07:27] <surgy> but its habbit
[07:28] <Dr_willis> like Kitten Huffing?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:28] <surgy> huh?
[07:28] <surgy> wtf is kitten huffing? lol whatever beastiality your into..... i dont want it
[07:28] <Dr_willis> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Kitten_Huffing
[07:28] <surgy> j/k
[07:29] <surgy> oh my god lmao
[07:29] <surgy> "Kitten huffing is a controversial practice that has recently been growing as a popular and healthy alternative to street drugs"
[07:30] <deathnote> !iso
[07:30] <surgy> lol wtf is wrong with people
[07:30] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[07:30] <intelikey> so dosbox has a binarry that is the whole 'dos' system ?   it doesn't seem to actually boot anything
[07:30] <surgy> "It is a general rule of thumb that anyone who huffs more then 3 kittens a day is an addict. Veteran huffers often caution against huffing more than a couple kittens per day "
[07:30] <surgy> ok im done
[07:31] <Dr_willis> In Soviet Russia, Kitten huff you!
[07:31] <surgy> intelikey: dosbox isnt meant as an actual os i think
[07:31] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  it should have came with a freedos setup to boot
[07:31] <surgy> intelikey: its ment more for an emulator for games i think
[07:32] <Dr_willis> yep - i play dos games with it all the time
[07:32] <Dr_willis> Warlords I and II
[07:33] <Dr_willis> run dosbox  - i get a window and a dos shell and a Z:\ prompt
[07:33] <surgy> yeah i dont like how dosbox is put together
[07:33] <surgy> not my style
[07:34] <surgy> you have to "mount" everything
[07:34] <Dr_willis> egads! the humanity of it all!
[07:34] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis dpkg -L dosbox   shows one executable
[07:34] <surgy> dr_willis: are you a fan of ultima?
[07:34] <Dr_willis> actually i set mine up (under gnome) not kde, to where i could right click on a game dir.. and run the game
[07:34] <Agent_bob> no libs   just some docs
[07:34] <Dr_willis> aint played ultimata in ages
[07:35] <Dr_willis> !find dosbox
[07:35] <ubotu> Found: dosbox
[07:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:35] <surgy> lol i have an ultima 7 disk i bought a month after it came out
[07:35] <deathnote> !iso
[07:35] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[07:35] <Agent_bob> it didn't install anything with it as a dep.
[07:35] <ForgeAus> !dosbox
[07:35] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[07:35] <Agent_bob> so i just assumed that it was a standalone
[07:36] <ForgeAus> !dosemu
[07:36] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 958 kB, installed size 2208 kB
[07:36] <Dr_willis> it may come with a dos version included.. i may of been using dosemu with freedos.. or perhaps that was qemu
[07:36] <Agent_bob> now dosemu on the other hand does boot a dos system  and you can have it boot anything
[07:36] <Dr_willis> i was testing them all out a few months ago
[07:36] <Dr_willis> i run 'dosbox' and i get a z:  prompt  i then run the games from.
[07:36] <mem_> raylu: I got the sound working after deselecting external amplifier in Kmix
[07:37] <deathnote> damnit.....
[07:37] <deathnote> !mdf2iso
[07:37] <ubotu> mdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
[07:37] <ForgeAus> actually freedos doesn't come *with* either of them its an optional extra download
[07:38] <raylu> mem_, CONGRATS!
[07:38] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus dosemu seems to depend on freedos  ?
[07:38] <ForgeAus> Agent, possibly...
[07:38] <surgy> dr_willis: a quik question about dosbox...... windows 95 is based on dos right? and it has DX9 support so could you not run DX games through dosbox?
[07:38] <Agent_bob> err on  dosemu-freedos
[07:38] <ForgeAus> surgy so is win98 by that reasoning
[07:39] <surgy> forgeaus: am i wrong?
[07:39] <mem_> raylu: :-D thanks
[07:39] <ForgeAus> windows 3.11 is mostly the DOS-based one but windows 98 has an underlying DOS yes...
[07:39] <ForgeAus> (95 of course is the same although the dos vers might be different? I'm not certain)
[07:39] <deathnote> it keeps saying wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0 when i try to mount the mdf file
[07:40] <ForgeAus> Windows ME is very strange... I'm sure there is an underlying DOS somewhere its just that you can't use the sys command with it...
[07:40] <deathnote> tried iso9660,vfat,ext3 all don't work
[07:40] <Agent_bob> 95 and 98 both used dos7
[07:40] <ForgeAus> XP however I'm not even certain if there is a DOS underlying it...
[07:40] <mem_> Can I remove Konqueror and just use Firefox? Do you know if there are any silly dependency issues there?
[07:40] <ForgeAus> Agentbob basically yes
[07:40] <surgy> forgeaus: no winxp has no dos, it has a dos emulator
[07:40] <ForgeAus> but not dos 6.11
[07:40] <ForgeAus> they had their own built in DOS's
[07:41] <ForgeAus> surgy cmd?
[07:41] <surgy> forgeaus: no, compatibility mode
[07:42] <surgy> forgeaus: which wasnt a bad idea, they just did it badly
[07:42] <Jasen> hello, anyone mind answering a few questions from a linux nub?
[07:42] <surgy> !ask
[07:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:42] <Agent_bob> heh dosbox man page says that all the built-in command.com commands work plus others.   first one i tried "ver" isn't there  lol
[07:42] <Jasen> lol tnx.
[07:42] <ForgeAus> surgy I heard they built a complete windows98 subsystem into XP for compatibility reasons
[07:42] <ForgeAus> lol Agentbob
[07:43] <ForgeAus> it has mount, which is something DOS doesn't
[07:43] <surgy> forgeaus: something like that, it lacks features, and definately lacks the ability to use it very effectivly
[07:43] <Dr_willis> surgy,  you could run qemu, or vmware to play windows 95 games.. no dosbox.
[07:43] <surgy> forgeaus: as far as i got was with the compatibility tool kit, and it is slow, and weak at everything before ntfs
[07:44] <ForgeAus> surgy: agreed my experiences also come to that conclusion
[07:44] <surgy> dr_willis: i just figured out that the original warcraft is free now....... YEP IM GETTING DOSBOX!
[07:44] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus yes it has mount.   and i can see why.  but still the very basics of information gathering....
[07:44] <Dr_willis> iv4e used dosbox (i thinK) under windowsxp
[07:44] <Jasen> having trouble with a new install. trying to add my first program (sylpheed email app) got an error stating I needed glib. downloaded glib, did ./configure  (no errors) did make (no errors) did make install got permission denied
[07:44] <Dr_willis> surgy,  free? where did ya find that at?
[07:44] <ForgeAus> actually Dosbox is awesome under XP!
[07:45] <ForgeAus> same under Linux really
[07:45] <Dr_willis> surgy,  there was a linux port/game that could use the warcraft data files
[07:45] <surgy> dr_willis: sorry, by free i meant shareware free
[07:45] <ForgeAus> runs games like Advanced Civilization (the computerized version of the *board* game sid's Civilization was based on)
[07:45] <surgy> dr_willis: http://www.sss-mag.com/games/index.html#old
[07:45] <Jasen> any idea what would cause denial of permission?
[07:46] <ubuntu> hi im trying to install kubuntu and im doing manual partition mounting, but it keeps saying no root file system
[07:46] <Dr_willis> surgy,  thats just links to the demo it seems
[07:46] <nkRush> anyone runnig WoW on kubuntu?
[07:46] <nkRush> *running
[07:46] <surgy> forgeaus: its amazing how dosbox can outperform a multi million dollar os at backwords compatibility isnt it?
[07:46] <Agent_bob> jasen   compiling glib ?
[07:46] <Jasen> trying to yes
[07:46] <surgy> dr_willis: i know :(
[07:46] <ForgeAus> hehe :) yeah
[07:47] <Dr_willis> night all.
[07:47] <surgy> night
[07:47] <Jasen> make install I assume is compiling yes?
[07:47] <Agent_bob> well sudo make install      but i don't know why you are compiling....
[07:47] <ubuntu> hi im trying to install kubuntu and im doing manual partition mounting, but it keeps saying no root file system
[07:48] <deathnote> hi, how do i create an iso for my warcraft 3 cd, and will it work properly to run game?
[07:48] <ForgeAus> well XP was really the first desktop oriented (unlike NT line inc win2000) that required an emulator for backwards compatibility... although the 95/98 gui's didn't run DOS apps well internally...
[07:48] <Agent_bob> ubuntu   what partition do you have set to mount on  /   ?
[07:48] <surgy> warcraft was ported to psp/psx?
[07:48] <ForgeAus> Macs required emulation well before XP did
[07:49] <ubuntu> ext3
[07:49] <ubuntu> logical
[07:49] <Agent_bob> set to format it ?
[07:49] <surgy> forgeaus: yeah but you whould think if gates wanted his os to be backwords compatible it whould happen, he wants no legaacy support so you have to buy more of his software
[07:49] <Jasen> am I doing something wrong? I was following instructions I found... but got the permission denied error message...
[07:49] <Jasen> so I must be
[07:50] <ForgeAus> hmmm so kubuntu can't be installed on fat32?
[07:50] <ubuntu> wont let me chekc the box
[07:50] <ForgeAus> I know ext3 is the one its suited to, but I dind't know it was limited only to ext3
[07:50] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus not with out scba gear of some sort
[07:50] <Agent_bob> Jasen sudo make install
[07:51] <ForgeAus> your right Gates doesn't want to go backwards he wants us to go forwards
[07:51] <ForgeAus> can never be too far forward for him!
[07:51] <Jasen> Agent_Bob: Sudo make? what does that mean?
[07:51] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus it's not limited to only ext3   there are several fs's that linux can live in.   just nothing M$ built has permissions bits
[07:51] <ForgeAus> whats scba? at first I thought you typed scuba!
[07:52] <ForgeAus> Agentbob doesn't NTFS have permission bits?
[07:52] <deathnote> is k3b capable of cloning exact cd of my warcraft 3?
[07:52] <Jasen> nm
[07:52] <Agent_bob> no
[07:52] <ForgeAus> not that I recommend NTFS
[07:52] <ForgeAus> so ntfs permissions are something different?
[07:52] <Jasen> sudo is like su to root?
[07:52] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus the u in scuba is "underwater"  i didn't expect water on your disk.
[07:53] <ForgeAus> rofl Agent_bob :) nice one
[07:53] <ForgeAus> I never really remember having heard what SCUBA stands for then
[07:53] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus fire fighters ware scba gear   astronauts ware scba gear
[07:53] <ForgeAus> (inf act I wasn't even aware it was an acronym)
[07:54] <Agent_bob> self contained breathing aparatus
[07:54] <ForgeAus> why not EPG ? environmental protection gear?
[07:54] <ubuntu> plz help s1, why wont it let me install?
[07:54] <ubuntu> keeps saying No root file system
[07:55] <ForgeAus> ubuntu? no idea what boot loader are you using?
[07:55] <Agent_bob> it's not protecting the env form the warer  it's protecting the warer from the env ForgeAus
[07:56] <ubuntu> im using latest release i think
[07:56] <ForgeAus> erm grub or lilo? if its lilo I probably can't help
[07:56] <deathnote> hi can anyone teach me how to make an iso out of my warcraft cd???
[07:56] <ForgeAus> but grub, is mostly configurable by its menu.lst file under /boot/grub
[07:56] <Agent_bob> if it's saying no root file system  it's still the partition setup that's hanging it.
[07:57] <ForgeAus> or on reboot use the e key and tweak the references (mostly the numbers in ()'s
[07:57] <ubuntu> so what doesnt it like?
[07:57] <ubuntu> the fact that its logical?
[07:57] <Agent_bob> deathnote dd if=/dev/cdrom of=filename.iso
[07:57] <ForgeAus> doesn't what is it LVM handle logical volumes?
[07:58] <ForgeAus> is a logical volume the same as a logical partition?
[07:58] <ubuntu> i dont know
[07:59] <Agent_bob> i'm not sure what a "logical partition" is     i first assumed he meant "extended partition"
[07:59] <ubuntu> it says "logical" next to the partition name
[08:00] <ForgeAus> no
[08:00] <ForgeAus> extended partition is something different
[08:00] <ForgeAus> it usually contains other ones
[08:01] <ForgeAus> hmm, doesn't fdisk have a logical drive thing? I've never used it before tho
[08:01] <surgy> are there any good rts games for linux? preferably free?
[08:01] <ForgeAus> ubuntu is that in QTpart? (the live cd partition program)
[08:01] <ForgeAus> surgy definitions of "good" vary from person to person
[08:02] <ubuntu> its in install to HD
[08:02] <ubuntu> from live cd
[08:02] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus the nick would sujest the live CD
[08:02] <ForgeAus> yeah QTParted is embedded in the installer
[08:02] <ForgeAus> or something like taht
[08:02] <surgy> forgeaus: something along the lines of empire earth or age of empires
[08:02] <Branded_Atom> surgy, check stratagus
[08:02] <ForgeAus> empire earth is kewl :)
[08:03] <ForgeAus> I love sierra games mostly
[08:03] <ForgeAus> since like the time of Kings Quest 3 and Larry 1 :)
[08:03] <ForgeAus> of course since then I've backdated tried KQ2 and KQ1
[08:04] <ubuntu> so nobody knows why its not working
[08:04] <Agent_bob> ubuntu  one word.   alternate
[08:04] <ubuntu> alternate what
[08:04] <Agent_bob> !alternate
[08:04] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:04] <ForgeAus> ubuntu I have two theories the logical thing might mean you require LVM but I don't know HOW to do that you might need to google it
[08:04] <surgy> tribal trouble looks fun
[08:04] <ubuntu> whats LVM?
[08:05] <ForgeAus> theory 2 is simply that grub isn't looking in the right place whihc means you just need to fiddle with the hd(#,#) that it boots from
[08:05] <ForgeAus> Logical Volume Manager? something like that I guess
[08:05] <Agent_bob> the last sentance of that infonode should not be there.
[08:05] <ForgeAus> !LVM
[08:05] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:06] <ubuntu> ohh so is it because its SATA?
[08:06] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[08:06] <ForgeAus> probably not
[08:06] <ForgeAus> sata is just sda instead of hda
[08:06] <Agent_bob> probably because the liveCD installer is "junk"
[08:07] <ForgeAus> but it depends, its possible that theres some raid or sata stuff thats made it an LVM
[08:07] <matt0507> anyone know a good image editing software i could grab from adept? thanks.
[08:07] <ForgeAus> matt... GIMP!
[08:07] <ForgeAus> (or if you want kde alternatives you should already have krita by default)
[08:08] <Agent_bob> xpaint ?
[08:08] <ForgeAus> theres also stuff like Blender and Kpovray  depends on what kind of image editing you want to do
[08:08] <matt0507> ok i typed in gimp and all these plugins showed up. how can i tell what the actually install is?
[08:08] <ForgeAus> yes xpaint even
[08:08] <ForgeAus> the actual install should be just gimp itself, but yeah there is lotsa plugins for it
[08:09] <Jasen> OMG dependancies....
[08:09] <ForgeAus> unfortunately gimp is GTK-based rather than QT based
[08:09] <ForgeAus> koffice has at least 2 graphic apps in it...
[08:10] <Agent_bob> Jasen i asked you why you were compiling....  all debian based linux distros are binarry package oriented...
[08:10] <deathnote> mounting my iso but my warcraft can't run
[08:10] <deathnote> sigh
[08:11] <ForgeAus> warcraft, warcraft II warcraft III World of Warcraft? which one?
[08:11] <Jasen> Bob.... I have no idea what I am doing
[08:11] <ForgeAus> I'm sure WineHQ would have some info on it anyhow
[08:11] <ForgeAus> !wine
[08:11] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:11] <Jasen> I am a total nub lol
[08:11] <Agent_bob> Jasen what is the desired end result ?
[08:12] <Jasen> all I want to do is install sylpheed.... it is (from what I am told) the email package that will support my needs (robust, fast and can handle and sort 15,000+ stored emails without bogging down)
[08:13] <Agent_bob> sylpheed - Light weight e-mail client with GTK+
[08:13] <Agent_bob> !sylpheed
[08:13] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-1build1 (edgy), package size 580 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[08:14] <Jasen> unfortunately I have been stuck in gates-land for about 25 years and never learned a real os
[08:14] <Agent_bob> jasen all you need to do is enable the universe repo if it's not already and use your favorite package manager to install it.
[08:15] <Jasen> what is a package manager?
[08:15] <ForgeAus> Kivio is good for diagramming
[08:15] <Agent_bob> aka  sudo apt-get install sylpheed
[08:15] <ForgeAus> Jasen basically a software installer
[08:15] <Agent_bob> Jasen adept
[08:15] <Agent_bob> Jasen synaptic
[08:15] <Agent_bob> !apt
[08:15] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:15] <ForgeAus> package managers basically deal with your .debs (or .rpms for distros like Mandriva)
[08:16] <ubuntu> can you just dbl click to install?
[08:16] <Jasen> ok... I installed the edgy cd... it is running. is there a package manager in it?
[08:16] <ForgeAus> yes
[08:16] <ForgeAus> at least 2
[08:16] <Agent_bob> there is one in your   kmenu
[08:16] <Agent_bob> adept
[08:16] <ForgeAus> aptitude is a cli one, but adept is the main one
[08:17] <ForgeAus> add/remove programs uses "a mode of" adept
[08:17] <Jasen> OMG.... thank you!!!
[08:17] <Agent_bob> i prefer synaptic over adept   but don't like any of them really.      apt  is all i use
[08:17] <ForgeAus> (they're actually separate binaries but it at least seems to use the same engine as adept)
[08:18] <ubuntu> im installing kubuntu on a sata drive, will it boot properly?
[08:18] <ForgeAus> agentBob there is a kynaptic :) arklinux uses it
[08:18] <ForgeAus> but I'm not sure there is a .deb for it
[08:18] <matt0507> !gimp
[08:18] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[08:18] <Agent_bob> all of them are mearly frontends to dpkg
[08:18] <ForgeAus> true
[08:18] <ForgeAus> kynaptic was basically just a KDE-style synaptic anyway
[08:18] <ForgeAus> theres also kpackage
[08:19] <ForgeAus> or even smart!
[08:19] <ubuntu> im installing kubuntu on a sata drive, will it boot properly and will it conflict with my winxp install?
[08:19] <Jasen> so I go to a repository and it will have sylpheed?
[08:19] <Agent_bob> no and yes ubuntu  but not nessecerally in that order.
[08:19] <ForgeAus> Jasen you can add a repository with sylpheed possibly ... google it
[08:19] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:19] <surgy> ubuntu: no and no im on sata too
[08:20] <ForgeAus> actually kubuntu SHOULD NOT interfere with your winXP
[08:20] <ubuntu> no? it wont boot?
[08:20] <Jasen> (hopefully my inexperience will entertain someone)
[08:20] <ForgeAus> you can install grub in a way that doesn't mess up your MBR
[08:20] <surgy> ubuntu: you wont have problems :)
[08:20] <ForgeAus> (I think it does so by default anyhow)
[08:20] <Agent_bob> Jasen you go to repositories and enable universe     click apply changes and then  install   sylpheed
[08:20] <ForgeAus> I'm on sata too but I think ubuntu's is a little more complex than merely a sata drive
[08:21] <Gretl> just click on install and take your time to read the menus coming there properly
[08:21] <surgy> agreed
[08:21] <ForgeAus> some kind of LVM in there...
[08:21] <deathnote> !uml
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <Agent_bob> !botsnack | deathnote
[08:22] <ubotu> deathnote: Yum!
[08:23] <Jasen> ok, I am in adept, I go to manage repositories (yes?) I dont see universe
[08:23] <deathnote> the iso won't work
[08:24] <ForgeAus> no
[08:24] <Agent_bob> it should be there Jasen
[08:24] <ForgeAus> User mode linux
[08:24] <ForgeAus> or United Modelling Language
[08:24] <ForgeAus> depends on whihc UML you were looking for
[08:24] <Agent_bob> Jucato busy ?
[08:25] <ForgeAus> !honeypot
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about honeypot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <ForgeAus> awww
[08:25] <ForgeAus> thats sad
[08:26] <ForgeAus> for UML diagramming tools something like Kivio or Dia is great... for Usermode linux try searching for pacakges in Adept
[08:26] <SolidSource> !w32codecs
[08:26] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:26] <ForgeAus> or you could just get vlc
[08:26] <ubuntu> why is my screen resolution limited to 1024?
[08:27] <ubuntu> is it because im on live cd?
[08:28] <surgy> good night
[08:28] <SolidSource> yes, if you are on live cd...you will smaller res
[08:29] <ubuntu> ok thanx
[08:29] <sparr> my firefox is giving me weird cursors...  a blue pointer, a very tall hand for links, a blue cursor with a spinning clock while loading.  very surprising, very annoying.  what might have done that and how do i fix it?  could this be a gtk problem?
[08:30] <SolidSource> !codecs
[08:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <deathnote> uml = unified modeling language
[08:31] <deathnote> ForgeAus: u were saying kivio or dia is great for UML diagramming?
[08:32] <Slynderdale> !proccesses
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proccesses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <eh-ef-kay> hello.
[08:35] <ForgeAus> Deathnote Kivio is a koffice app that is designed as an alternative to Visio for MS Office
[08:35] <eh-ef-kay> i got an odd question about colors not showing in xchat like topics ect are in color but any color i try to send don't work as well as colors others use and this seems to be the only distro i've had this issue on any ideas?
[08:36] <ForgeAus> Dia is Gnome's Diagramming Tool (theres even a prgram to create I'm not sure which way, either a diagram from C code or dia to a C skeleton one of them two
[08:36] <deathnote> ForgeAus: sorry i am new to UML.. my lecturer tell us to install Proxy Designer.. but i'm using linux
[08:36] <deathnote> but he say its not important..words can draw the diagram too
[08:37] <sparr> For some reason my mouse cursor theme changes in firefox.  This just started happening.  What did I do to cause it, and how can I fix it?
[08:37] <matt0507> what do i do with .tar.gz file? how can i turn it into something useful >.<
[08:38] <deathnote> mat: tar xzvf .tar.gz
[08:38] <aseigo> matt0507: first, unpack it. from the command line: tar xvf <filename> ; you can also use ark, a gui app, as well; clicking on it in konqi usually launches ark
[08:38] <sparr> aseigo: tar xvf on a .tar.gz wont work so well :-p
[08:39] <aseigo> actually these days tar actually autodetects the compression ... which is pretty neat
[08:39] <ForgeAus> I don't know Proxy Designer
[08:39] <ForgeAus> um you can check out Visual Paradigm for UML
[08:39] <aseigo> so you don't have to specify z or j (bzip2) manually. about time too, imho =)
[08:40] <ForgeAus> not usre if there is a linux version tho
[08:40] <sparr> note to self: upgrade tar
[08:40] <aseigo> matt0507: is this an program you're trying to build?
[08:40] <ForgeAus> (it definitely has a plugin for Visual Studio .NET)
[08:40] <aseigo> sparr: heh.. if your using kubuntu, at least edgy, it's the default behaviour
[08:40] <matt0507> yes it is, it suppose to be the gimp im trying to install
[08:40] <sparr> aseigo: im using dapper/edgy/feisty/selfbuilt  :)
[08:41] <ForgeAus> why can't I install libdvdcss2 and/or w32codecs?
[08:42] <ForgeAus> the ubunutu-multimedia-kde metapackage from saveas doesn't want to install...
[08:42] <Jasen> Agent Bob, I found a reference to "apt-get install sylpheed"  is this the apt you were talking about?
[08:42] <sparr> ForgeAus: is multiverse in your sources?
[08:42] <ForgeAus> yes
[08:42] <aseigo> matt0507: ok, so once you've unpacked the source, cd into the resulting directory and read the README and/or INSTALL files
[08:43] <aseigo> matt0507: generally you're going to do sth like this: ./configure --prefix=/usr; make && sudo make install
[08:43] <aseigo> assuming you want it in /usr as opposed to the more traditional /usr/local for user-installed apps =)
[08:43] <ForgeAus> I have the required packages but it might conflict or replace something else I have?... any idea what?
[08:44] <Jasen> uuh-oh he left,
[08:44] <Jasen> ForgeAus: are you familiar with Apt?
[08:45] <ForgeAus> um partially
[08:45] <deathnote> try to apt-get remove xxxx
[08:45] <deathnote> then get again?
[08:45] <Jasen> I found a reference to "apt-get install sylpheed" is that something I type in at a command line?
[08:46] <ForgeAus> oohh ok it called them forbidden!
[08:46] <ForgeAus> is that beacuse they're non-free?
[08:47] <deathnote> hmm maybe
[08:47] <deathnote> !photoshop
[08:47] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[08:49] <dhq> i need help
[08:49] <dhq> i have a laptop
[08:49] <deathnote> anyone know of any great photo editing tools similar to window's adobe photoshop in linux?
[08:50] <dhq> and my temparature of the laptop is never below 55degres
[08:50] <dhq> deathnote: gimp is nice
[08:50] <SolidSource> deathnote: theres always photoshop in wine
[08:51] <deathnote> wine??!
[08:51] <deathnote> do u mean running  adobe photoshop in wine?
[08:51] <deathnote> ok trying out gimp
[08:51] <SolidSource> yes, thats what I do
[08:52] <dhq> deathnote: well i love gimp
[08:52] <deathnote> ic..problem is i don't have a cracked version of adobe photoshop lol
[08:52] <dhq> deathnote: thats y i prefer opensource
[08:52] <deathnote> dhq: i'm using 2 laptops now..how to check the temperature?
[08:52] <SolidSource> eh, theres always a way around a serial
[08:53] <dhq> deathnote: i use gkrellm and i can monitor my temperature
[08:53] <deathnote> k installing
[08:57] <deathnote> which one of the graph shows temp? lol
[08:57] <dhq> deathnote: go throught the settings
[08:59] <deathnote> got it.. one is 42C
[09:00] <deathnote> the other laptop is acer dual core.. 67C and 57C
[09:00] <deathnote> yours?
[09:01] <SolidSource> remember to keep a can of air around to clear out the fans....that will help
[09:03] <deathnote> a can of cool air?
[09:04] <deathnote> anyway what temp normally will the laptop take? 100C?
[09:05] <incorrect> can tora connect to mysql?
[09:05] <SolidSource> deathnote: not just a can of compressed air to clear the dust out of the fans
[09:06] <ForgeAus> hey Jucato do you think someone should work on a plugin for CNR for Konqueror, basically all that should be needed is a sidebar by the look of it!
[09:06] <deathnote> !photoshop
[09:06] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:06] <deathnote> i don't like gimp..
[09:07] <crazy_penguin> 'morning all!
[09:07] <ForgeAus> looks mostly like its just a customized web-browser anyway
[09:08] <deathnote> which looks like adobe photoshop the most? gimp, imagemagick, pixel32, cinepaint, rubymagick, corel photopaint 9 ?
[09:15] <memphis> woot woot woot
[09:15] <memphis> kubuntu rocks
[09:15] <SolidSource> anyone else hear that owl?
[09:15] <deathnote> hey where's the layer tool in gimp ?
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> yes it does.
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: second
[09:15] <memphis> nice
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: Ctrl + L
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> or Dialogue >> Layers
[09:16] <deathnote> Admiral_Chicago: ahh ctrl L works..where do i open those tool bars actually?
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> deathnote: ^^
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago>  Admiral_Chicago> or Dialogue >> Layers
[09:17] <deathnote> ic so its called dialogue
[09:17] <deathnote> hey gimp is fun
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> file, open as layer works as well.
[09:18] <deathnote> how do u arrange those dialogues?
[09:18] <deathnote> manually?
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, my gimp skills are lacking
[09:19] <Jasen> :)  WOOOHOOO Its installed.....
[09:20] <Jasen> .... but what a journey
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: what was your problem
[09:22] <craig_> hi room
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[09:22] <Jasen> installing an app
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> which one?
[09:22] <craig_> any one want to chat on msn
[09:22] <Jasen> I was installing sylpheed
[09:22] <gregd> deathnote: try krita it is nice
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> or inkscape
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> but thats in the repositories
[09:24] <craig_> hello
[09:24] <Jasen> Admiral, this is my first linux box... I had no idea how to use them
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: open up adept_manager
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> K menu >> system iirc
[09:24] <Jasen> ya....
[09:25] <Jasen> I did it :)
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> is that how you installed it?
[09:25] <premier_> hello
[09:25] <craig_> hello everyone
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> hello premier_
[09:25] <craig_> anyone like to msn
[09:25] <Jasen> well.. I used Adept to install Symantic and then I added a link from a website to the symantic then I installed it
[09:26] <Jasen> not bad for a nub
[09:26] <premier_> Im having trouble running a java program from the command line.  Linux tries to run a program called gij, which is apperently version 1.4.2
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> lol, adept does the exact same thing.
[09:26] <deathnote> what's krita?
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> they are both package manager (GUI front ends) for apt
[09:26] <ernie> I've just run Krita - its very paintshopish - its not too shabby at all :) I might use it instead of the GIMP or as well as
[09:26] <Jasen> but adept didnt have a repository with sylpheed listed.... I enabled all the ones that were there...
[09:26] <premier_> I have version 1.6.0 on my computer, but bash automatically goes to the /usr/bin/java rather than /home/jdk1.6.0/bin
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> it's an image editing program
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: did you do an update?
[09:27] <Jasen> yes
[09:27] <Jasen> then I searched sylpheed
[09:27] <deathnote> oh cool
[09:27] <deathnote> this is cooooooooooool
[09:27] <premier_> bash does recognize scripts from /home/premier/jdk1.6.0/bin
[09:27] <deathnote> nvmind
[09:27] <premier_> how do I fix this?
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i'm going to say it was something you did, i've never had a problem. i'd recommend running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> no quotes
[09:28] <deathnote> yeah..
[09:28] <deathnote> anymore interesting software
[09:28] <Jasen> Admaral probably it was.... I am a noob
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: run those commands in konsole
[09:30] <premier_> Admiral_Chicago: can you help me?
[09:31] <Jasen> :) I already got it to work through my circuitous method....  I was just reveling in my success for the ppl here who helped me earlier... though I appreciate the insite. I want to know how it works so I can be less nublike next time
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> premier_: never had a problem with java, i'm sorry
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: there is a good guide, let me get it for you
[09:32] <premier_> well, this isnt a java problem, its a bash problem
[09:32] <Jasen> Admaral, thank you :)
[09:32] <Jucato> !info sylpheed
[09:32] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-1build1 (edgy), package size 580 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[09:33] <premier_> see, If I force it to use /home/premier/jdk1.6.0/bin, java will try to look for source there, rather than in the folder I give
[09:33] <deathnote> i've installed ltris but how do i run it?
[09:33] <deathnote> !ltris
[09:33] <ubotu> ltris: very polished Tetris clone with CPU opponents. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11-1 (edgy), package size 484 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[09:33] <Jucato> premier_: any reason you didn't want to install java from the repos?
[09:34] <Jasen> Admiral: thanks! that will help much.
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Jasen: it's written by some very good people. It's a good read for new people. enjoy
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: cloak is taking forever to get. something is screwy
[09:35] <Jucato> so I've noticed... I keep on /whois'ing you :)
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i keep doing that to myself too.
[09:36] <Jucato> lol
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd like to get my addy as well, but that can wait a bit
[09:36] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-jdk
[09:36] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-jdk does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[09:36] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-jdk edgy-backports
[09:37] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-jdk does not exist in edgy
[09:37] <Jucato> ok why doesn't ubotu scan edgy-backports...
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, i think Dennis is the man that handles the bot
[09:38] <Jucato> yeah.. that was more of an outburst rather than an honest question :)
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ah
[09:42] <deathnote> !webcam
[09:42] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:42] <ForgeAus> brb
[09:44] <deathnote> hi my acer laptop have a build in webcam
[09:44] <deathnote> how do i use it?
[09:44] <deathnote> what application can use the webcam
[09:44] <aldin> deathnote: kopete, amsn
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> !webcam
[09:44] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> that's the best I can do
[09:45] <aldin> deathnote: gqcam
[09:46] <deathnote> ok gqcam
[09:46] <deathnote> how do i know if its detected?
[09:46] <craig_> hi arcangel
[09:47] <craig_> looks for a chat
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@ubuntu/member/admiral-chiago] 
[09:49] <Jucato> nice!! congrats Admiral_Chicago
[09:49] <Jucato> but why chiago?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks. bed time soon...
[09:49] <Jucato> admiral-chiago?
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i'm from Chicago.
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see
[09:50] <Jucato> :P
[09:54] <deathnote> !gspca
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gspca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <[StingRay] > Hi, stdin :)
[09:56] <thomax> hi all
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[10:00] <thomax> I have a little problem with some .rar files, it's one package split in several packages like .r01 .r02 and so on, now for some reason some of the files are all uper case, while the rest is lower case and ark won't extract them because he doesn't recognise the ones in uppercase (looks like it is case sensitive) now do any of you have an idea to get those other files in lower case without having to rename them all manually
[10:01] <thomax> more than 40 files, so it would take me a while doing it manual
[10:05] <thomax> no one?
[10:06] <Pensa`MIA> there are batch file renaming programs in the repo's
[10:06] <thomax> you have a name of such a script?
[10:06] <Pensa`MIA> kbrename or something like that, I'm not on linux atm so I cant't say for sure
[10:07] <thomax> alright, i'll check it out, thanks anyway ^^
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> thomax: apt-cache search foobar will search for package foobar
[10:07] <Jucato> !krename
[10:07] <ubotu> krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.12-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1240 kB
[10:07] <Jucato> thomax: ^^^
[10:07] <thomax> alright, great
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you know all the packages don't you
[10:09] <Jucato> lol no :)
[10:09] <Jucato> some are just familiar
[10:09] <thomax> installed krename_3.0.12-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:09] <Jucato> I can't memorize 20,000+ names :)
[10:09] <thomax> thanx for your help y'all
[10:09] <Jucato> er? installed the .deb?
[10:09] <ForgeAus> Thunar has a batch renaming tool but krename suits kubuntu way better
[10:10] <thomax> jep .deb
[10:10] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get install krename" works better
[10:10] <thomax> thats what i did ;)
[10:10] <Jucato> hm. ok...
[10:10] <kjean-pierre> hello every body
[10:11] <kjean-pierre> i'm new user on kubuntu, and I would like to install a proxy,
[10:11] <kjean-pierre> to go on msn
[10:12] <kjean-pierre> is there somebody who could help me ?
[10:12] <kjean-pierre> please?
[10:12] <kjean-pierre> and I would like also see my windows partitions
[10:12] <ForgeAus> msn needs a proxy?
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> I don't realy know
[10:13] <ForgeAus> well mounting your windows partitions you just need to know which reference the drive is
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> hda?
[10:13] <ForgeAus> ie /dev/sdb2 (for partition 2 on sata drive 2)
[10:13] <ForgeAus> ok hda refers to ide drive 1
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> I try this raight now
[10:13] <Jucato> night Admiral
[10:13] <kjean-pierre> it is not a sataconnexion
[10:14] <kjean-pierre> it is ide
[10:14] <kjean-pierre> but I try ath ever
[10:14] <ForgeAus> kjean the command line is sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 (assuming hda1 is a dir under mnt, you may need to sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 first)
[10:15] <kjean-pierre> thanks forgeAus
[10:15] <kjean-pierre> I try this
[10:15] <ForgeAus> hda refers to the entire disk itself I think, what you want to do is mount a partition on the disk... ie hda1 (most likely unless you have multiple partitions on it)...
[10:16] <kjean-pierre> yes it is
[10:16] <kjean-pierre> I try and come back
[10:16] <kjean-pierre> thanks
[10:19] <kjean-pierre> ls
[10:20] <ForgeAus> now thats a command linux users should know well :)
[10:27] <deathnote> !java
[10:27] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:27] <deathnote> what's the gui tool for java editing in linux?
[10:27] <ForgeAus> whats wrong with java6?
[10:28] <ForgeAus> deathnote a good one is eclipse
[10:28] <ForgeAus> but you can get netbeans or many others...
[10:28] <deathnote> ok i try eclipse
[10:28] <deathnote> as long as its free?
[10:28] <ForgeAus> eclipse is kinda big
[10:28] <ForgeAus> um not sure if its free/oss or not
[10:29] <deathnote> oss?
[10:29] <deathnote> !eclipse
[10:29] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[10:29] <ForgeAus> does monodevelop do java?
[10:29] <deathnote> i've no idea.. in windows i use jcompiler
[10:30] <ForgeAus> I'm not much of a java programmer so I don't really know
[10:30] <ForgeAus> but eclipse is extensible to jhython/python or ruby or perl
[10:30] <ForgeAus> theres even aspect Java...
[10:31] <ForgeAus> one of the most interesting things is an OpenOffice plugin for it! rolf
[10:31] <ForgeAus> grr rofl
[10:31] <deathnote> k will try eclipse
[10:31] <deathnote> !screensaver
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <deathnote> any graphics intensive screensaver for testing
[10:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> is it difficult to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 without reinstalling?
[10:32] <Ghost> not difficult
[10:33] <ForgeAus> I don't know dettoal some poeple have trouble
[10:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> do you just do it in adept
[10:33] <ForgeAus> isn't it apt-get dist-update or something
[10:34] <ForgeAus> I don't know if kubuntu notifies of dist updates
[10:34] <ForgeAus> you can install gnomes one
[10:34] <mauro> !upgrading | dettoaltrimenti_
[10:34] <ubotu> dettoaltrimenti_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:35] <mauro> deathnote: i do java programming, i use Eclipse
[10:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[10:36] <deathnote> ok i'm installing eclipse
[10:36] <deathnote> its big
[10:36] <mauro> deathnote: yes, it is.
[10:39] <ndee> hello there, how can I create a PDF out of OpenOffice?
[10:39] <ndee> found it :D
[10:41] <ninHer> hi all
[10:44] <deathnote> what's a proper way to install beryl?
[10:44] <deathnote> !beryl
[10:44] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:45] <deathnote> so many guides but..
[10:45] <deathnote> i haven't suceed yet..haha
[10:49] <deathnote> !keyboard
[10:49] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[11:13] <doge> ragazzi salve,
[11:14] <doge> ho due prese telefoniche a casa
[11:14] <Jucato> !it | doge
[11:14] <ubotu> doge: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:14] <doge> volevo sapere se posso utilizzarle tutte e due per connettermi ad internet contemporaneamente con due pc diversi
[11:14] <doge> scusate
[11:15] <Jucato> doge: English only please
[11:15] <nounou> Bonjour
[11:15] <nounou> hi
[11:36] <Guardian> hi
[11:36] <Guardian> when i plug an usb drive
[11:36] <Guardian> it asks me what i want to do
[11:37] <Guardian> i choose "open in new window"
[11:37] <Guardian> and nothing happens
[11:37] <Guardian> and there is no icon on the desktop
[11:37] <Guardian> any idea please ?
[11:37] <econthrust> hi!
[11:37] <econthrust> i might look for some data in the directories under /media
[11:38] <econthrust> if none of the folders hold the data suspected to be on the usb, then i don't have a clue :(
[11:38] <econthrust> maybe, u could install the "autofs" package
[11:38] <econthrust> sudo apt-get install autofs i think
[11:39] <econthrust> i look it up to be correct
[11:40] <econthrust> yes autofs is right, i hope that helps :)
[11:41] <mrerny> hola
[11:54] <johny_> Hey guys, I've got a problem with Kubuntu. Don't why it happened but when I log in the login manager appears, I put the login and the password, then it returns to the login screen, KDE doesn't start. If someone want to gave a hand, I've got the log from Xorg
[11:55] <psb154> johny_ this sounds like an Xserver problem, specifically: not the correct Xserver for the graphics card you are using.
[11:57] <kjean-pierre> let's go to eat
[11:57] <kjean-pierre> see you later
[11:59] <johny_> psb154: But so far I have not had problems with my graphics card (Radeon M 9700). I've been using the fglrx drivers without problems, and what's to say: I used to restart my computer often
[12:00] <psb154> johny_ something has *obviously* changed :-) have you updated recently?
[12:00] <psb154> if so this could be the problem.
[12:00] <econthrust> i still suggest u to look at the /var/log/Xorg.log type file
[12:01] <econthrust> that will surely help u trust me :)
[12:01] <psb154> on the kubuntuforums front page there is a note that people who have upgraded recently may suffer problems with ATI and nvidia xservers.
[12:01] <econthrust> i have a ati card too in my notebook, it sux sometimes but the logs helped me to calibrate
[12:03] <econthrust> fglrxinfo says i have a versio 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)  radeon driver from the repository
[12:03] <econthrust> i set it up accoording to the unofficial ubuntu guide ^^
[12:07] <johny_> psb154: No I haven't. I've just found out that I hadn't any space on the HDD- "df -h" gave me "0 mb". Was the problem that?
[12:07] <econthrust> LOL
[12:08] <econthrust> that's always a problem, it surely help if u set some space free :)
[12:09] <econthrust> maybe X couldn't write the settings, logs, and throw an error
[12:09] <johny_> econthrust: Ok, but can it "block" KDE from loading?
[12:09] <psb154> johny_ oh... hate it when that happens 8-) I have seen that happen when MySQL dumps too many log files to the hard disk.
[12:09] <econthrust> in my opinion yes, if it cannot write session files
[12:11] <psb154> johny_ yes any window manager will prolly have the same problem. You will have to reboot, hit escape key, select recovery-mode or whatever it is called and free up some space.
[12:11] <johny_> BTW guys,My Kubuntu partition is only 15 gb, I've got a lot of space on the win partition (free). Do you know some program to convert that freespace in another partition, just like partition magic does?
[12:11] <econthrust> i use acronis partitioning expert 2003
[12:12] <johny_> econthrust: is it free?
[12:12] <econthrust> nope :)
[12:12] <MuJ> johny_: what filesystem are you using on kubuntu partition?
[12:12] <johny_> econthrust: can I manage the partitions from a terminal session with this app?
[12:12] <johny_> MuJ: ext 3
[12:12] <econthrust> i just cannot think any free one, except ubuntu's gparted or something called like that
[12:13] <psb154> johny_ are you looking to format the partition?
[12:13] <MuJ> johny_: there's lots of tutorials how to resize ext2/ext3 partitions on web.. just google =)
[12:14] <econthrust> johny_:  it's a windows software but it has a great bootcd function burnt on a cd
[12:14] <johny_> MuJ: I do know that but without a graphic interface would be quite difficult -:).
[12:14] <econthrust> a great partition manager will load, and u can do almost anything
[12:14] <MuJ> johny_: actually it's not.. :|
[12:15] <MuJ> just read couple through and I'm sure you can do it
[12:15] <johny_> MuJ: i was looking to find that out, listening to you..
[12:15] <psb154> johny_ if you boot from the kubuntu install cd you will find a gui partition manager thing on the start bar.
[12:15] <johny_> MuJ: Do you mean searching google with "Lynx"?
[12:16] <MuJ> uuumm.. why not? =)
[12:16] <johny_> psb154: I just wanted to do it in this way but was curious about others opinions
[12:16] <econthrust> johny_: boot up in windows, and serch
[12:16] <econthrust> *search
[12:17] <johny_> ok, but just wanted to know whether it's possible from the terminal?
[12:17] <MuJ> it is
[12:17] <econthrust> sure, i know it is, everything is possible from console, u only have to read how
[12:18] <psb154> johny_ man mke2fs
[12:18] <econthrust> *nix console with bash just rocks :)
[12:18] <nomad111> hey all does any1 here use xgl?
[12:18] <econthrust> nope :(
[12:18] <johny_> nomad111: I do
[12:19] <nomad111> do u have trouble playing videos
[12:19] <johny_> what you mean "trouble"?
[12:19] <nomad111> sluggish behaviour
[12:19] <nomad111> frame skipping
[12:19] <johny_> yeah
[12:20] <nomad111> did u resolve that issue?
[12:20] <johny_> nomad111: I've experineced the similar behavior
[12:20] <johny_> nomad111: but for me it was every 10, 11 sec the image freezed
[12:21] <johny_> nomad111: and then everything returned to the previous state
[12:21] <johny_> nomad111: Have you read the ATI manual driver yet?
[12:24] <johny_> ok guys now I'm going to restart this beauty and see what happens
[12:24] <nomad111> i dont have ati
[12:24] <nomad111> intel
[12:24] <johny_> nomad111: Sorry I do
[12:25] <johny_> nomad111: XGL is a popular graphics server, haven't you found some infos on your problem on web?
[12:26] <nomad111> i didnt bother looking
[12:26] <nomad111> ive formatted and install many distros after screwing around xgl/beryl/compiz
[12:26] <nomad111> now im just going to settle down
[12:26] <nomad111> and use the standard xserver
[12:26] <johny_> nomad111: no hope?
[12:27] <nomad111> not really just sick of formatting and installing lol
[12:27] <nomad111> i was interested in a few features of beryl
[12:27] <nomad111> not so much the eye candy stuff
[12:27] <nomad111> however emerald beats the current kde themes
[12:27] <johny_> nomad111: you might be more experineced than me, what do you think about those XGL/Compiz/Beryl?
[12:28] <johny_> are they usefull, bring anything "new"?
[12:29] <nomad111> i like the cube idea
[12:30] <johny_> nomad111: yeah this one really rocks
[12:30] <nomad111> not so much the wobbly windows and minimise maximise effects
[12:30] <nomad111> i dont see the point
[12:30] <nomad111> the zooming features is sometimes useful and negative effect coz i dont have great vision
[12:30] <johny_> nomad111: Ok, where's the point of having on of those installed?
[12:31] <waylandbill> I've not had luck with beryl. Well, under sabayon I did, but xgl crashes the system under kubuntu every single time.
[12:31] <nomad111> if u have beryl installed u can turn features on and off
[12:31] <nomad111> emerald is so good
[12:31] <nomad111> i like the bright window decorations
[12:32] <nomad111> lol
[12:32] <nomad111> the alt tab preview is cool
[12:32] <waylandbill> sooner or later the xgl will work and I'll play with it again. I'm not fond of locking up my system repeatedly to find out what's going on.
[12:33] <johny_> nomad111: do all those things consume all the computer recources?
[12:33] <johny_> resources
[12:33] <waylandbill> johny_: yeah. they use up some memory and cpu.
[12:34] <johny_> ok
[12:34] <johny_> thanks for all the info
[12:34] <johny_> got to reset this machine
[12:38] <ni-hao777> jj
[12:40] <mefisto__> I recently upgraded/installed linux headers so I now have 2.6.17.10 and 2.6.17.11. Everything seems to be fine when running 2.6.17.11, so can I safely remove 2.6.17.10? (Just trying to avoid unforeseen problems)
[12:42] <psb154> mefisto__ best way to remove unnecessary files is to either do a: sudo apt-get autoclean    or: sudo apt-get clean   I'd suggest autoclean
[12:43] <psb154> mefisto__ man apt-get for more details.
[12:43] <mefisto__> psb154: I don't mean removing the .deb files, I mean fully uninstalling my original linux headers and image packages, 2.6.17-10
[12:45] <Linux_Galore> nice pick of the centre of our galaxy with the comsic dust removed http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0702/gcenter_spitzer_f40.jpg
[12:45] <Linux_Galore> oops wrong channel
[12:59] <mefisto__> anyone have any comments on uninstalling old linux images?
[01:02] <econthrust> well u can uninstall them in synaptic for example, though i don't think it will ever bother you, and knowing ubuntu, no problems would occur
[01:02] <econthrust> i myself didn't bother of uninstalling them, just to gain 50-80MB of disk space
[01:03] <econthrust> it's up to u
[01:03] <vge> iw done it, no biggies, they are just gone
[01:04] <michaelpo> hello.... i cannot watch vcd... i can watch dvd... what do I need to do? before i did a reinstallation i could watch both dvd and vcd after i installed some package... i could not find the website that teach me how to do it now... please help...
[01:04] <vge> !dvd
[01:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:04] <vge> !vcd
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <ForgeAus> wow you OS is freaky!
[01:08] <michaelpo> vge: i've got libdvdcss2 installed.
[01:10] <ForgeAus> I can't seem to get it... I keep getting a message that its forbidden
[01:11] <michaelpo> downloading vlc now...
[01:17] <kraut> moin
[01:21] <michaelpo> vlc did not work... it crashed when first loading vcd content..
[01:24] <ForgeAus> !saveas
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <ForgeAus> !w32codecs
[01:24] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:26] <Filthpig> hmm
[01:27] <Filthpig> just wondering why kubuntu does not come with 3d acc drivers and mp3 support?
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> MSN IM having issues? or did they make a change kopete doesn't like?
[01:27] <mart81> ForgeAus: can you please use /msg on ubotu?
[01:27] <Filthpig> LeeJunFan: can't connect?
[01:27] <Tm_T> LeeJunFan: It's MSN, what did you expect?
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> Filthpig: nope.
[01:28] <Filthpig> I had that problem an hour ago
[01:28] <mart81> LeeJunFan: yes i have connecting problems too, also using kopete.
[01:28] <Tm_T> It's msn network broken, as usual.
[01:28] <Filthpig> I just let it reconnect until it connected
[01:28] <mart81> lol
[01:28] <Filthpig> I'm using aMSN though
[01:28] <Jucato> Filthpig: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats The introduction answers your wondering
[01:29] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: can't connect either... but that's nothing new...
[01:29] <mart81> offtopic: today they also started with popups on connecting that there is now msn live for you...
[01:29] <econthrust> two days ago i deleted my msn account b/c i got fed up with it ^^
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> MSN not so live.
[01:30] <mart81> systay popups in kopete that is from MS, which is quite shocking to me :p
[01:30] <Tm_T> econthrust: Good choice.
[01:31] <econthrust> Tm_T: i know :) it's the result of a few years of experience, or maybe not experiencing any good :)
[01:31] <ForgeAus> Jucato why am I getting this:
[01:31] <ForgeAus> Err http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl edgy-seveas/all libdvdcss2 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4
[01:31] <ForgeAus>   403 Forbidden
[01:31] <ForgeAus> trying to install libdvdcss2 and w32codecs packages
[01:32] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Seveas' repo might be down or something....
[01:32] <econthrust> the cherry on top is that i had to change to linux b/c my notebook has a radeon card and windows crashes all the time :)
[01:32] <Jucato> Seveas: any comment?
[01:32] <Seveas> ForgeAus, because you forgot to read the BIG BOLD NOTICES on the wikipage
[01:32] <econthrust> the change is permanent
[01:33] <ForgeAus> erm what big bold notices?
[01:33] <Seveas> the big bold ones...
[01:33] <Jucato> "This server sits on an ADSL line and is NOT accessible outside my home network. Please use a mirror." <--- that one?
[01:33] <ForgeAus> hmm trying that
[01:33] <ForgeAus> but I just got the pgp thing from there I have to change the repo in sources.lst too right?
[01:33] <Seveas> Jucato, that sounds like the one :)
[01:34] <Jucato> hehe :)
[01:34] <Tm_T> Can we slap you too?
[01:34] <econthrust> LOL ^^
[01:34] <ForgeAus> no.. and especially not with a large trout
[01:34] <lab014-03> where areu frome
[01:35] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports
[01:35] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:35] <Tm_T> ForgeAus: No trout, I had enough greenpeace already.
[01:35] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[01:35] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:35] <Jucato> Seveas: question about that ^^^^
[01:35] <Seveas> hmm
[01:36] <ForgeAus> yay its working!
[01:36] <ForgeAus> aawww...
[01:37] <Jucato> you started it :D
[01:37] <Seveas> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[01:37] <ForgeAus> actually it was Tm's idea about the slapping
[01:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:37] <Seveas> hmmmmmmm
[01:37] <Seveas> @reload Encyclopedia
[01:37] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[01:37] <ubotu> OK
[01:37] <Seveas> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[01:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:37] <ForgeAus> but I confess I was the one that started the trout thing...
[01:37] <Tm_T> ForgeAus: No, slap alias kickban is my idea. ] ;=
[01:38] <Jucato> Seveas: yay! :)
[01:38] <Ash-Fox> Anyone have any idea of how to strip out cr/lf characters from a file in a bash script?
[01:38] <Seveas> Ash-Fox, sed -e 's/\r//' -i file.sh
[01:38] <Seveas> that's for the cr
[01:38] <ForgeAus> wow 14mb for win32 codecs!
[01:38] <Ash-Fox> Thanks Seveas
[01:38] <Jucato> Seveas: \r? not \n
[01:38] <Seveas> repeat with \n instead of \r for cr :)
[01:39] <Seveas> but sed may fail there
[01:39] <Jucato> thought*
[01:39] <Seveas> stupid single-line patternspace
[01:39] <Seveas> Jucato, crlf == \r\n
[01:39] <Ash-Fox> Hm, weird, not working
[01:39] <Jucato> Seveas: oh ok :)
[01:39] <Seveas> Ash-Fox, for the \n it fails I guess
[01:39] <Seveas> sed isn't smart
[01:39] <michaelpo> i've also just installed quake... where is the icon to start quake?\
[01:40] <ForgeAus> hmmm michael is quake dos or windows?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: you have to make a launcher for it
[01:41] <michaelpo> how do i make a launcher?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: wait are you talking the game quake?
[01:41] <michaelpo> yes the game quake2
[01:41] <gnomefreak>  :(
[01:42] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: doesnt quake run in wine?
[01:42] <ForgeAus> I thought quake was originaly a dos app
[01:42] <ForgeAus> but quake 2? not sure
[01:43] <ForgeAus> well if its dos it'd need dosbox
[01:43] <ForgeAus> does wine run dos apps too?
[01:44] <michaelpo> i typed quake2... Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[01:44] <ForgeAus> could be either A) couldn't find the path to it or B) its protected (permissions issue)
[01:45] <Ash-Fox> Wasn't quaked opensourced?
[01:45] <Ash-Fox> *quake
[01:45] <gnomefreak> !info quake2
[01:46] <s4_dzalbs_j> hi
[01:46] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[01:46] <soulrider> hi
[01:46] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: why didnt you get it from the repos
[01:46] <janchs> hmz....
[01:46] <janchs> what is going on?
[01:47] <mikmak> hi
[01:47] <michaelpo> gnomefreak: i did get it from the repos
[01:47] <mikmak> I've got a little problem with edgy on some computers with mouting USB keys, sometimes it won't open the key and .xsession-errors says something like : kded: ERROR: mount failed for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_part1_size_252690432: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied - A security policy in place prevents this sender f
[01:47] <mikmak> rom sending this message to this recipient
[01:48] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: than if its not running i would file bug on it. more than likely if you met all depends for it than its looking in wrong path for that module
[01:48] <michaelpo> hmm... how do i create an i con for quake2?
[01:48] <michaelpo> which directory is quake2 installed?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: you need to knwo the command to run it to make icon for it
[01:49] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: /usr/share/somewhere
[01:50] <michaelpo> nope... not in usrshare
[01:50] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: parts of quake were installed in a bunch of dirs. im sure
[01:50] <michaelpo> how do i do a search for the directory?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> michaelpo: locate quake
[01:50] <gnomefreak> open konq and find a search option
[01:51] <iroxorsju> hey guys
[01:51] <iroxorsju> i got a quick question
[01:51] <soulrider> ask
[01:52] <iroxorsju> Apept package manager is working in the background for some reason and i don't see how to close it or that its even running
[01:52] <iroxorsju> i can see it in processes
[01:52] <Jucato> !adeptfix | iroxorsju
[01:52] <ubotu> iroxorsju: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:53] <iroxorsju> how much of that do i put in the command promt
[01:54] <Jucato> iroxorsju: only the ones inside the << >> part
[01:54] <iroxorsju> i am really really new i just installed my first program a bit ago
[01:55] <iroxorsju> hmmm
[01:55] <iroxorsju> well i did it it did not give me an error it just went away
[01:56] <iroxorsju> i still got it in processes though
[01:56] <iroxorsju> the manager that is
[01:56] <michaelpo> i did a right click property in synaptic for quake2... lots of different directory... where is the quake2.exe file?
[01:57] <ForgeAus> michael it doens't have to be a .exe file in linux
[01:57] <ForgeAus> maybe just quake2
[01:57] <ForgeAus> or quakeII as long as its set to executable
[01:57] <ForgeAus> linux isn't like windows or dos extensions don't have to be .com .exe .bat .pif etc... in order to run
[01:58] <iroxorsju> gah this is a headache lol
[01:58] <Filthpig> hm
[01:58] <iroxorsju> how do i log into root
[01:58] <Filthpig> use sudo
[01:58] <iroxorsju> so i can jsut kill the proceess
[01:58] <ForgeAus> sudo
[01:59] <ForgeAus> try sudo -i
[01:59] <Filthpig> hm
[01:59] <ForgeAus> or for single commands use sudo <command here>
[01:59] <iroxorsju> ...
[01:59] <ForgeAus> should ask you the root password before executing it
[01:59] <Filthpig> I installed q2 from the repos, but I get Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx when trying to run the game
[01:59] <ForgeAus> (sometimes if you run another immediately after even with sudo before it it doesn't ask, perhaps it realizes your still logged in)
[01:59] <iroxorsju> ahh i tried putting this in there and it dind't ask for password
[02:00] <iroxorsju> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:00] <iroxorsju> dind't ask for password or do anything
[02:00] <Filthpig> a quick search for colormap gave nothing that had to do with q2
[02:00] <ForgeAus> I don't know the fuser command
[02:01] <iroxorsju> Ubotu gave it to me
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gave it to me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <ForgeAus> !fuser
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <iroxorsju> ...
[02:01] <iroxorsju> is that a person?
[02:01] <ForgeAus> hehe lol sometimes things are strange
[02:01] <ForgeAus> no ubotu is a bot
[02:01] <Jucato> iroxorsju: ok try to split it into 2 commands: "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[02:01] <Jucato> iroxorsju: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[02:01] <iroxorsju> ok lol
[02:02] <iroxorsju> nothing
[02:02] <ForgeAus> semicolons aren't an acceptible filenam char are they?
[02:02] <iroxorsju> it gives no error nor does it ask for password
[02:02] <ForgeAus> irox perhaps your already logged in as root?
[02:02] <Jucato> it's ok. the system remembers your password for a few minutes
[02:02] <Jucato> I think 3 minutes
[02:03] <Jucato> iroxorsju: even this command shows nothing? sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:03] <iroxorsju> well i went in to the performance monitor to kill a process but it said i dind't have privlages to kill it so i figured i wasn't
[02:03] <ForgeAus> maybe your sudo is broken?
[02:03] <iroxorsju> niether does anything
[02:04] <Jucato> iroxorsju: try launching Adept Manager again?
[02:04] <iroxorsju> k sec i think i tried
[02:04] <iroxorsju> i will try again
[02:04] <Jucato> yep. try again, specially after those 2 commands
[02:05] <iroxorsju> nothing it jsut poofs
[02:05] <Jucato> what do you mean by "poofs"?
[02:05] <iroxorsju> manager doesn't come up it asks for password then never comes up
[02:05] <iroxorsju> shall i jsut reboot?
[02:05] <Jucato> hm... Adept's sickness (again...)
[02:05] <Jucato> no
[02:06] <Jucato> iroxorsju: try again... or... press Alt+F2, and type this: kdesu adept_manager (if you're on Edgy)
[02:06] <iroxorsju> i am on kbuntu
[02:06] <iroxorsju> whatever the newest one is
[02:06] <ForgeAus> edgy is a version of kubuntu
[02:06] <Jucato> that would be edgy
[02:06] <iroxorsju> lol
[02:06] <iroxorsju> told you i am new
[02:06] <ForgeAus> feisty is the newer one than that but its in alpha/herd
[02:08] <iroxorsju> ok
[02:08] <iroxorsju> i did
[02:08] <michaelpo> nevermind... no need to try quake2... try something else...
[02:08] <iroxorsju> kdesu adept_manager   it asked for password and nothing ever came up
[02:08] <iroxorsju> i think it would be easier to just restart :O
[02:08] <iroxorsju> if that would work
[02:08] <Jucato> maybe...
[02:09] <iroxorsju> i logged out and back in
[02:09] <iroxorsju> once but never turned off computer
[02:09] <iroxorsju> i jsut got done installing Boinc could that have done something?
[02:10] <iroxorsju> be right back
[02:10] <iroxorsju> gonan restart computer
[02:10] <michaelpo> is there another good fps that i can try in linux?
[02:10] <tesuki> tremulous
[02:11] <tesuki> can be found on www.tremulous.net
[02:14] <iroxorsju> restarting fixed it can't beat the old restart
[02:14] <iroxorsju> lol
[02:15] <Jucato> heh
[02:15] <iroxorsju> you know this is jsut a computer i got sitting in the corner don't raelly use it since i just bought a new one
[02:16] <iroxorsju> if i could just get my games going i would be all about this linux thing
[02:16] <iroxorsju> i am at least learning even if i don't use it
[02:18] <vge> michaelpo: basically all ID software FPS:s or their offsprings
[02:19] <michaelpo> vge: not in synaptics?
[02:19] <iroxorsju> whats that?
[02:20] <vge> not free ones
[02:20] <vge> well, enemy territory is
[02:20] <iroxorsju> i mess with Vanguard
[02:20] <Jucato> what's what?
[02:20] <iroxorsju> haha
[02:20] <iroxorsju> no idea
[02:20] <iroxorsju> hmm enemy territory
[02:20] <vge> michaelpo: and eaven thou quake2 can be found in repos, you still need the actual data files to play it
[02:20] <iroxorsju> i havne't played that in ages
[02:21] <vge> iroxorsju: well, i havent playd for ages :)
[02:21] <Andrew_0> hey hey could someone help me get connected to my Apple wireless keyboard?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> vge: isnt quake2-data a depend of quake?
[02:21] <Andrew_0> someone who understands bluez-utils & kbluetoothd
[02:21] <Andrew_0> I'm in hidd --search * hcitool etc hell at the moment ;)
[02:22] <vge> gnomefreak: actually im not 100%, ill check
[02:22] <gnomefreak> yep it is
[02:22] <Andrew_0> upgrading from dapper -> edgy screwed my bluetooth setup, so trying to fix it.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> vge: apt-cache show shows it as one
[02:23] <vge> get the descriptions of that paggage,  it says something different if im not mistaken
[02:24] <vge> well, i donno anymore
[02:26] <Andrew_0> nobody here knows about bluetooth + kubuntu :( ?
[02:26] <Andrew_0> any ideas what channels I could try?
[02:26] <Andrew_0> a bluez-utils channel would be ideal
[02:26] <ForgeAus> I know kubuntu has some progs for bluetooth by default
[02:27] <Jucato> I know just a bit about bluetooth + kubuntu, but everything just worked out of the box...
[02:27] <fernando_> I have install windows vista, and know I can se the list to select the OS....
[02:27] <fernando_> how can I reinstall only grub???
[02:27] <fernando_> without to reinstall kubuntu???
[02:28] <Jucato> !grub
[02:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:28] <fernando_> now.. i cann't see..
[02:28] <Jucato> fernando_: one of those pages might have an answer
[02:28] <fernando_> okis..thanks.jucato
[02:31] <michaelpo>  i cant find the .deb file for alienarena
[02:34] <vge> michaelpo: have u tested http://www.princessleia.com/UT.php ?
[02:34] <michaelpo> vge: nope...
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[02:38] <michaelpo> im tired.... will try finding fps and installing it another day..... bedtime... good night...
[02:46] <dick_turpin> Hi, Is it possible to upgrade/replace Mepis with Kubuntu via apt-get?
[02:46] <Jucato> dick_turpin: #mepislovers
[02:48] <BluesKaj> Jucato, have you tried mepis ?
[02:49] <Jucato> when MEPIS 6.0 first came out
[02:51] <dick_turpin> Jucato: Its for my girls and they prefer Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[02:51] <Jucato> dick_turpin: ah... I'm not sure that would be easy to do
[02:52] <eean> I installed htdig and still htsearch isn't found by kdevelop.
[02:52] <eean> any ideas?
[02:53] <eean> dick_turpin: sounds ill-advised :)
[02:53] <eean> dick_turpin: why its good to keep / on a seperate partition from /home
[02:53] <alexicon> is there an apt flag that gives a bit more package information
[02:54] <xenol> plz where can i DL br2684ctl for amd64 kubuntu 6.06? plz
[02:54] <eean> (my prob is solved at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107714 )
[02:54] <dick_turpin> Its the Fujitsu Amelo D-7830 thats giving me trouble, its a fresh install on a clean HDD
[02:58] <reagleBRKLN> i'm using kubuntu edgy with 2.6.17-10-generic  kernel, and want to build a 2.6.20. But i'm having trouble with my booting on my SATA drives. I have a Dell e520 with a Serial ATA AHCI Bios version iSrc, which module do I use?
[02:59] <econthrust> there are notices that 2.6.20 kernel is buggy and/or not compatible with some HW...use with care
[02:59] <BluesKaj> reagleBRKLN, one question , ... Why?
[03:00] <reagleBRKLN> Black5un: couple of reasons, try kvm, beryl, etc.
[03:01] <dick_turpin> Thanks anyway it was worth asking
[03:02] <xenol> how can i run draytek vigor318 modem on dapper plz?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> beryl is buggy at best even on edgy
[03:05] <atidem> hello
[03:07] <reagleBRKLN> trying ahci
[03:07] <BluesKaj> heh, i wonder what atidem question is about ? :)
[03:07] <atidem> BluesKaj: no question
[03:10] <xenol> can someone help me to r un vigor318 modem?
[03:12] <guiden> hi, I want to programs programs in kde
[03:12] <guiden> program
[03:13] <guiden> what should I do
[03:20] <Jack001> Has have installed berkeley DB?
[03:24] <thompa> i cant seem to access port 8443 on a remote server?
[03:24] <andy_0> Hi, does anyone here know about BLUETOOTH on Kubuntu, or which channel I could try for some assistance?
[03:25] <thompa> andy_0: install bluetooth tools, obix stuff etc if its not there already
[03:25] <Jack001> Has have installed berkeley DB?
[03:25] <andy_0> thompa: um, my problem is really quite unique, and would requirwe somebody to know quite a lot about bluez-utils I think
[03:26] <andy_0> My problem isn't just a "I haven't instaled the necessary packages"
[03:26] <andy_0> Basically from Dapper-> Edgy I now get this hci_acldata_packet: hci0 ACL packet for unknown connection handle 7 appearing in my DMESG
[03:26] <thompa> andy_0: i just use mine for phone and palm synching, dont know about anything else
[03:27] <andy_0> sure thompa
[03:27] <andy_0> hopefully someone here might know where I can get help
[03:27] <andy_0> I've tried #bluez, it seems not active
[03:33] <thompa> does anyone know why i cant access :8443 port in browser, it works on main box but not laptop?
[03:34] <The_Machine> how can i use ntfs-3g to read the filesystem of a USB2 external hdd w/ NTFS as the FS on it?
[03:34] <The_Machine> i don't get how to do it w/ USB drives
[03:34] <The_Machine> (I do understand internal ones)
[03:34] <xenol> !ntfs
[03:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:34] <The_Machine> !ntfs-3g
[03:34] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:36] <incorrect> k3b keeps trying to use /dev/sg not /dev/scd0
[03:37] <incorrect> how can i force it to use the right device
[03:45] <MidMark> hi, I've enabled zeroconf, but I cannot see anything that I shared, what I have to do?
[03:45] <MidMark> I've two computer in the same lan
[03:46] <hellcattrav> hey folks
[03:46] <MidMark> I've to install nfs?
[03:47] <hellcattrav> ive a question, i can access my windows file under /media and i want to listen to my mp3's what do i have to do-
[03:48] <psb154> !nfs
[03:48] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:48] <psb154> !mp3
[03:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <psb154> 8-)
[03:49] <hellcattrav> hanx
[03:49] <MidMark> psb154: nfs is needed to share folders between 2 linux?
[03:50] <psb154> samba is prolly simpler.
[03:50] <psb154> !smb
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <psb154> !samba
[03:50] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:50] <MidMark> samba betweenn two linux?
[03:50] <psb154> sure
[03:50] <hellcattrav> if im running kubuntu how do i add the repositories?
[03:50] <MidMark> adept->manage repo
[03:51] <MidMark> psb154: ok
[03:51] <hellcattrav> amarok aksed me to input password to dowload restricted files, but i don't think it updates
[03:52] <hellcattrav> ok im at the adept--> manage reposoitores, wheere should i go know?
[03:53] <MidMark> hellcattrav: enable all repo that are disabled
[03:53] <MidMark> right click -> enable
[03:53] <MidMark> then apply and fecth update or something similar
[03:54] <hellcattrav> the greyed out ones?
[03:55] <hellcattrav> and how do i know i which one is the one I'd want?
[03:55] <MidMark> yes, only ones that match with an url, no ones with comments
[03:55] <MidMark> see the wiki link provided ^
[03:55] <hellcattrav> yeha thanks
[03:56] <MidMark> hellcattrav: I suggest you to use Synaptic (from Ubuntu) rather than adept, synaptic does the same things than adept, but I think it's easier and better, you can install it from adept
[03:56] <MidMark> you can have both of course installed
[03:57] <hellcattrav> if i installed the ubuntu desktop, would it have synaptic with that?
[03:58] <hellcattrav> nevermind
[03:58] <hellcattrav> i answered my own question
[04:00] <benkong2> Hello all, I think I must have made a mistake. my kubuntu partition was 55GB I had an extra 120GB empty part and so I used gparted and resized. However it still shows 55GB what did I do wrong?
[04:00] <benkong2> df -h shows 55GB gparted shows 177GB
[04:02] <psb154> benkong2 what does   df -a   show?
[04:02] <benkong2> 55GB with 87% used
[04:02] <Johny_> !mplayer|johny_
[04:03] <The_Machine> okay, i've read the mounting NTFS partitions stuff that people !ntfs etc. to me
[04:03] <Johny_> !mplayer
[04:03] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:03] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:03] <benkong2> I ran reiserfs_chk and it reported all ok
[04:03] <benkong2> that was reiserfsck
[04:04] <ForgeAus> hellcat you can install synaptic into kubuntu but no its not installed by default
[04:04] <hellcattrav> ok im in synaptic what am i looking for?
[04:05] <psb154> benkong2 does: cat /ect/fstab show other hd?
[04:05] <Johny_> Hey is there any way to launch a movie with mplayer from a full terminal session?
[04:06] <benkong2> yes it does. It shows my second HD 60GB and it shows the partitions for /home and /media/windows NTFS and /media/share fat32
[04:06] <mshade> Johny_: you want to launch it in another X session? or in the console..
[04:08] <Johny_> mshade: In the full console ( alt+f1)
[04:08] <mshade> you could play it with aalib
[04:08] <mshade> mplayer -vo aa filename.mpg
[04:08] <benkong2> Ok now reiserfsck  --check reports Bad root block 0. What do I need to do
[04:09] <mshade> the problem is, you've got no real interface to the graphics card.  VGAlib might do it, but you'd have to run as root
[04:09] <psb154> benkong2 if you are sure that the partition exists and has been formated couldn't you simply add it to your /etc/fstab
[04:09] <PhinnFort> !kickoff
[04:09] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:10] <benkong2> psb154: I am using the partition now. It is my / partition that I installed kubuntu in
[04:10] <benkong2> I resized it and now it does not show the increased size
[04:10] <psb154> i see
[04:10] <psb154> you've rebooted your brains out I assume?
[04:11] <benkong2> psb154: yes I have warm and cold boots
[04:11] <animimotus> hi
[04:11] <benkong2> I have also run all reiserfs tools
[04:11] <jhutchins> SuSE is attempting to replace KDE?
[04:11] <benkong2> All I know to do now is reinstall
[04:11] <psb154> if you run qparted or whatever it was again now what does it say
[04:11] <jhutchins> Oh, just the menu.
[04:11] <benkong2> and use ext3 for all my linux FS
[04:12] <atidem> Johny_: $ mplayer -vo fbdev file
[04:12] <psb154> benkong2 if you run qparted or whatever it was again now what does it say
[04:12] <jhutchins> benkong2: What did you use to resize it?
[04:13] <Johny_> !fbdev
[04:13] <benkong2> gparted. I booted from a gparted CD and resized the /dev/hda3 partition
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fbdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <benkong2> I will reboot using the CD and see what it says.
[04:13] <animimotus> please, someone has an url to indicate in Adblock module for Konqueror ?
[04:13] <Johny_> atidem: thanks, I'll give a try
[04:14] <atidem> Johny_: you are welcome
[04:14] <psb154> benkong2 you can sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:14] <benkong2> psb154: yes I can but don't I need to unmount the partition before trying it?
[04:15] <psb154> benkong2 not just to view the partitioning
[04:15] <benkong2> ok hold on
[04:15] <psb154> benkong2 whatever you feel comfortable with.
[04:16] <blue|palm> Is it at all possible to put different superkaramba objects onto different sides of a beryl cube?
[04:21] <benkong2> psb154: funny it shows the 177GB partition
[04:22] <benkong2> psb154: it also shows 170GB used I know that's not true
[04:23] <Dr_willis> all righty - dare i update the kernel packages now? :)
[04:24] <psb154> benkong2 oh dear. It does sound like the resize process didn't work properly.
[04:24] <benkong2> yeah, that's what I suspected
[04:24] <benkong2> ok BRB I am going to backup and reinstall see ya later and thanks
[04:25] <psb154> benkong2 good luck.
[04:32] <hellcattrav> hey firefox keeps closing on me when i go to yahoo
[04:32] <hellcattrav> i try to sign in to my email and it just closes
[04:32] <hellcattrav> anyone know why?
[04:39] <xenol> !msg  ubotu !bestsoftware
[04:40] <LjL>  /msg ubotu best
[04:43] <eeos> does anyone know if portaudio is compiled with alsa support?
[04:45] <CaptainApathy> quick question:  if I want the power manager from Feisty Fawn, is there a way to install it?
[04:45] <CaptainApathy> without installing the full system
[04:46] <HymnToLife> I doubt it
[04:47] <HymnToLife> maybe get the sources packages and compile them on your Edgy
[04:47] <HymnToLife> but the feisty packages definitely won't work
[04:47] <CaptainApathy> hm.... I see..
[04:49] <brett> is there a good channel to go to for help with java coding? they wont let me into#java because my nick isn't registered
[04:49] <Jucato> !register | brett
[04:49] <ubotu> brett: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:49] <brett> jucato how quickly can i get registered?
[04:50] <CaptainApathy> they normally try to make it fairly easy to register
[04:50] <Jucato> brett: that page has instructions
[04:50] <brett> ok.. thanks
[04:50] <Jucato>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:50] <Jucato> just check it
[04:52] <brett> how do i change my handle?
[04:52] <brett> what is the command
[04:53] <Johny_> mshade: Hey the command you gave me doesn't work
[04:54] <Johny_> mshade:sorry it wasn't you
[04:54] <newname>  /nick newname
[04:54] <BrettV> thanks
[04:55] <BrettV> thanks guys
[04:57] <MidMark> psb154: I cannot access to samba's other pc, it always timeout
[04:57] <MidMark> both have the same workgroup, I have create a user in my samba, choosen a shared dir...
[04:57] <MidMark> what I'm missing?
[04:58] <CaptainApathy> MidMark:  does the Firewall let the connection in?
[04:58] <eeos> does anyone know if portaudio is compiled with alsa support?
[04:58] <psb154> MidMark have you: smbpasswd
[04:58] <MidMark> psb154: yes smbpasswd -a <user>
[04:59] <MidMark> CaptainApathy: which firewall?
[04:59] <MidMark> this works with one windows and one linux, but not with two linux
[04:59] <CaptainApathy> on the computer that is serving the samba share?
[04:59] <MidMark> CaptainApathy: I haven't a firewall here
[04:59] <psb154> MidMark tell me if this link helps: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=12735.msg50821#msg50821
[05:01] <MidMark> I can view other pc, but when I click to view shared folder -> timeout
[05:01] <MidMark> smbfs should be installed?
[05:03] <psb154> MidMark what you describe is symptomatic of not setting up an smb user. The smb user name must be the name and password of a user on the computer you wish to connect to.
[05:03] <MidMark> psb154: I know, but I created! should I reboot?
[05:04] <psb154> no
[05:04] <psb154> MidMark then permissions on the other computer...
[05:04] <psb154> MidMark how are you creating the shares?
[05:05] <MidMark> right click on the folder -> share with samba
[05:05] <eeos> how do you change festival start up settings? the man page is useless.
[05:05] <Kubunlost> Hi everyone
[05:06] <Kubunlost>  I just lost my favorite kubuntu application :(   Kaffeine player, it refused to start up ... any idea ?
[05:08] <MidMark> psb154: kubuntu has a firewall to be set?
[05:09] <psb154> MidMark not be default.
[05:09] <zobolococo> guys if i use qtparted and format a partition (ntfs) to fat32 will the content be erased?
[05:09] <Biovore> yes
[05:09] <MidMark> so don't know why doesn't work!
[05:09] <LjL> zobolococo: err... formatting *always* mean that the contents is erased
[05:09] <psb154> MidMark the folder you are trying to browse is it in a permissions-restricted directory?
[05:09] <LjL> not securely erased, mind you, but erased
[05:10] <zobolococo> how can i transform a ntfs partition to a fat32 without erasing its content?
[05:10] <LjL> zobolococo: you probably can't
[05:10] <LjL> !convertfs
[05:10] <Kubunlost> I want my Kaffeine back :(  please help
[05:10] <ubotu> convertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:10] <LjL> this is an (unsafe, and probably not going to work) possibility
[05:10] <MidMark> it my home under ext3
[05:10] <Kubunlost>  I can't survive without my daily dose of kaffeine :)
[05:10] <LjL> actually, it *certainly* won't work with NTFS, so don't even bother
[05:10] <SlackRat> zobo, u cant
[05:10] <LjL> just backup and restore
[05:10] <psb154> MidMark as an experiment create a director in root / and then: sudo chmod 777 newDir
[05:11] <zobolococo> with norton partition magic you can
[05:11] <zobolococo> but i cant install it here
[05:11] <zobolococo> the thing is i am runnong
[05:11] <SlackRat> where'd  your caffeine go?
[05:11] <zobolococo> running bitdefender livecd
[05:11] <psb154> MidMark then make it a share and attempt to connect to it and create a text file in it
[05:11] <zobolococo> lol its the stupid keyboard... it has the return key on enter place :|
[05:11] <SlackRat> oops freudian slip, i meant kaffeine
[05:12] <SlackRat> heh
[05:14] <MidMark> psb154: using ip instead of pc names it works, so it can be naming resolution
[05:15] <psb154> MidMark, prolly just need to add the puter in your /etc/hosts file
[05:16] <BrettV> i am attempting to install the jdk through adept... it has been stuck on 23% for ten minutes. I clicked show details and I see a screen that looks like it is waiting for me to click an ok button
[05:16] <MidMark> psb154: there isn't a graphical way to do that?
[05:16] <MidMark> just to know
[05:17] <BrettV> is there something that i need to do?
[05:17] <SlackRat> Brett Adept can take some time, Java tools are a bit large...
[05:17] <psb154> Oh yes, konqueror: smb://192.168.0.1/sharName
[05:17] <CaptainApathy> wooo sound is working again...
[05:18] <CaptainApathy> I think... I'm not going to test it during class.... >_>
[05:18] <psb154> MidMark from konqueror: smb://192.168.0.1/sharName
[05:18] <psb154> MidMark obviously change the ip for puter name or other ip 8-)
[05:19] <MidMark> ok but I want to say that is there a graphical way to add to hosts file the pc
[05:19] <psb154> System settings
[05:19] <CaptainApathy> kwrite? :P
[05:19] <CaptainApathy> oh
[05:20] <MidMark> psb154: where in System Settings?
[05:21] <bdmurray> Is there a way to manually save my KDE session without logging out?  I have set up my session the way I want it but X ocassionally dies on me.
[05:21] <BrettV> i think it wants me to push ok
[05:21] <psb154> Under networking, select your network device I believe. Mine right now is doing that thing where it wont prompt me for Administrator password.
[05:22] <waylandbill> bdmurray: if x dies, it goes back to  the last time you did log out, so make you once you have it set up, that you log out once... if you're crashing X alot anyway.
[05:22] <bdmurray> waylandbill: I'd rather not log out though.  Is there any way to manually save the session?
[05:23] <waylandbill> bdmurray: I'd look at .kde/Autostart
[05:23] <Johny_> some e-mail clients working in the full console mode?
[05:24] <bdmurray> waylandbill: okay thanks
[05:26] <waylandbill> is it possible to submit instructions for setting up a wireless card to the (K)ubuntu documentation? They don't seem to have my card and it's a few steps to set up. Can't edit the wiki though for some reason.
[05:27] <mshade> !mud
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mud - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <waylandbill> I'm talking community documentation of course.
[05:27] <mshade> anyone know of a good mud client for kubuntu?
[05:29] <waylandbill> never mind. I can edit the wiki now. must be not logged in before. :-)
[05:33] <geniusvicks> i keep betting a message saying "adept manager" is aldready opened so I cant use the new window. But I have restarted several times to no avail
[05:34] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone awake?
[05:35] <SlackRat> define awake.... :p
[05:35] <geniusvicks> anyone ? help
[05:36] <SlackRat> first check kystemguard and make sure you dont have several adept sessions running now
[05:37] <psb154> geniusvicks, you have a 'lock' file open somewhere. cd to /etc/apt
[05:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> correction, the ethernet is realtek rtl8211
[05:40] <krawek> hi julianad
[05:41] <psb154> geniusvicks actually check your /var/lib/dpkg directory. Is there a 'lock' file in there?
[05:42] <geniusvicks> psb154 ya. What hpnd wuz, the aptget stuck when I wuz installing java. After that it aint working
[05:43] <waylandbill> geniusvicks: probably was looking for you to accept the license. Install java using apt-get or aptitude on the command line.
[05:43] <waylandbill> (after removing the lock)
[05:44] <geniusvicks> waylandbill, what is teh command. Also how do I include the plugin for "konqueror" ?
[05:44] <geniusvicks> *the
[05:44] <geniusvicks> btw, how do I make double click as the method to open files and not single click
[05:45] <waylandbill> kpersonalizer will help with that
[05:46] <slyfox> Why is it that every time I start Kopete it asks me for all my account passwords? I checked for it rto remember passwords and Kwallet is running... ?
[05:46] <waylandbill> I installed sun-java6-plugin when I installed java. It's in the multiverse.
[05:48] <jhutchins> slyfox: password saving appears to be somewhat broken in the current kubuntu.
[05:48] <jhutchins> slyfox: I don't run kwallet, but kmail asks for every password everytime, including the kwallet password.
[05:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: I tell it to save without using kwallet, it says ok and ignores me.
[05:49] <slyfox> jhutchins: this sucks
[05:49] <jhutchins> I think somebody tried to force the system to use kwallet and broke stuff.
[05:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: File a bugreport.
[05:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: Or if there's already a bugreport, vote for it.
[05:51] <geniusvicks> waylandbill, what is the command to install sun java?
[05:51] <slyfox> jhutchins: not sure if Kwallet i a good idea at all, I like when applications themselfe rememmber passwords
[05:51] <jhutchins> slyfox: I prefer that myself.
[05:51] <waylandbill> geniusvicks: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin    that's what I did.
[05:51] <jhutchins> wallet is to windows for me.
[05:51] <Johny_> some e-mail clients working in the full console mode?
[05:52] <dwidmann> slyfox: there are some interesting things you can do with kwallet though
[05:52] <psb154> geniusvick, System Settings > Mouse > General tab    will allow you to set the number of mouse clicks.
[05:52] <montca48> [] [watis you name
[05:52] <Tm_T> Johny_: mail, pine, mutt, just to name a few.
[05:52] <waylandbill> conceptually you could backup all your passwords by backing up kwallet's data files. I think that's one of the fundamentals of it. Sucks when it doesn't work though
[05:52] <slyfox> dwidmann: liek that ?
[05:52] <dwidmann> Have a master password you can remember .... and randomly generate passwords that can only be broken through brute force
[05:54] <dwidmann> Another way of handling k-wallet is to have your kwallet password blank, then it won't prompt you for the password every time
[05:54] <Johny_> Tm_T:Thanks. Do they act like clients or only as serwers?
[05:54] <Johny_> servers
[05:54] <jhutchins> waylandbill: Think of it as a single point of critical failure.
[05:54] <montca48> what's up jordo?
[05:55] <jhutchins> Johny_: Eh?  Clients.  Kmail/korganizer
[05:55] <waylandbill> dwidmann: if your system is physically secure, you could forgo the master password yes.
[05:55] <Tm_T> Johny_: Clients ofcourse
[05:56] <Johny_> jhutchins: no, no I just wanted a console working client in the text mode to organize my mails
[05:56] <adrian_h> Help! My keyboard stopped working. I'm running Kubuntu 6.06. All of a sudden my keyboard is no longer responsive, although my mouse still works.
[05:56] <jhutchins> Johny_: Oh.  I like pine.
[05:56] <montca48> pine?
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: A lot of people like mutt, but I find it's configuration relatively opaque.
[05:57] <waylandbill> pine is not elm.
[05:57] <Johny_> jhutchins: what client would you reccomend?
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: mail is a pretty minimal client, but it works.  Handy for command-line mailing.
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: pine.
[05:57] <jhutchins> Johny_: I have and use both pine and mail on almost all of my systems.
[05:58] <Johny_> jhutchins: ok, I'll try
[05:58] <jhutchins> mail may be distributed as nail, that's what Mandriva uses.
[05:58] <waylandbill> mail is good for scripting when you need to write mail to many users (organizational, not spam of course)
[05:58] <jhutchins> Yeah, send monitoring reports, etc.
[05:59] <montca48> pine?
[05:59] <jhutchins> Great for emergency pages.
[05:59] <MidMark> psb154: ok now with a computer I can see the other but the countrary is: I can see folders, but when I access then it say "dir not exist" without asking for name and password at all
[05:59] <Johny_> !pine|montca48
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <waylandbill> montca48: pine is not elm. (that's what the acronym stands for) elm replacement.\
[05:59] <MidMark> how can I force to ask me the password?
[06:00] <jhutchins> Sebby2oo7: en
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> vorbiti romana
[06:00] <jhutchins> !ro > Sebby2oo7
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> ?
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> huh
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> ?
[06:00] <Sebby2oo7> !ro
[06:00] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[06:01] <jhutchins> MidMark: What are you sharing folders with?  ntfs or samba?
[06:01] <jhutchins> er, s/ntfs/nfs/.
[06:01] <Dave007> hi
[06:01] <MidMark> samba
[06:02] <Dave007> ich htte eine frage
[06:02] <jhutchins> MidMark: Have a look at the "user" definition for the share.
[06:02] <stamen> hi
[06:02] <MidMark> I have created user in both pc, what do you mean
[06:02] <stamen> how to mount usb stick
[06:02] <jhutchins> Dave007: Sorry, my german's really rusty.
[06:02] <waylandbill> did you add yourself to samba? i.e. smbpasswd
[06:02] <jhutchins> !de | Dave007
[06:02] <ubotu> Dave007: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:02] <Dave007> do you speak english
[06:02] <MidMark> stamen: put it
[06:02] <stamen> where to look
[06:03] <stamen> yes I insert it but nothing
[06:03] <MidMark> ntfs?
[06:03] <jhutchins> stamen: Yeah, some of 'em don't seem to detect correctly.
[06:03] <stamen> after lsusb it founds it, but it isn't mountesd
[06:03] <jhutchins> MidMark: typo.
[06:03] <MidMark> jhutchins: what?
[06:03] <jhutchins> MidMark: n'mind.
[06:03] <Dave007> i have a question?
[06:03] <stamen> jhutchins:  bulgarin li si
[06:03] <jhutchins> stamen: Is the stick formatted with ntfs?
[06:04] <waylandbill> having a unix user doesnt necessarily mean you have a samba user. at some point, one of the dialogs should be calling smbpasswd to add the user to the samba database.
[06:04] <stamen> actualy it is my phone
[06:04] <stamen> :)
[06:04] <jhutchins> stamen: korganizer might find and mount it correctly then.
[06:04] <MidMark> waylandbill: ok I know and I repeat that I have created the user with smbpasswd -a <user> but it doesn't ask for it!!!
[06:04] <stamen> I will install it, an I will try
[06:05] <MidMark> when I access with smb:/ in konqueror i can see pc, I can view shared folders but I cannot enter because it doesn't ask for user&passw
[06:05] <stamen> if it is listed in /dev for what I have to look
[06:05] <stamen> as a device
[06:05] <waylandbill> MidMark: ok. I understand
[06:05] <jhutchins> stamen: Most likely it's /dev/sda
[06:05] <jhutchins> stamen: Unless you already have /dev/sda
[06:05] <stamen> but there is no thing like this :(
[06:06] <waylandbill> MidMark: you could try using smb4k and see if it prompts for the password.
[06:06] <jhutchins> stamen: Do dmesg or /var/log/messages say what the device is?
[06:06] <Dave007> how can i link mei notebook (with kubuntu) to a modem
[06:06] <stamen> jhutchins: the device is my phone with memorry card
[06:06] <MidMark> waylandbill: smb4k is a program?
[06:06] <jhutchins> MidMark: I think you might be able to use a url like smb://user:password@host
[06:06] <stamen> jhutchins: and it is conected thrue USB
[06:07] <waylandbill> MidMark: yes. you'd need to apt-get it
[06:07] <jhutchins> stamen: right.  GO to a console and type dmesg, see if you recognize anything useful.
[06:07] <BluesKaj> !smb4k
[06:07] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (edgy), package size 1176 kB, installed size 2984 kB
[06:07] <MidMark> jhutchins: try, but I cannot understand why in one pc it's ok in the other with the same kubuntu nope
[06:07] <MidMark> try smb4k
[06:08] <jhutchins> MidMark: different cookies.
[06:08] <stamen> jhutchins: I think I saw where is the prob.
[06:08] <stamen> I have recompiled the kernel, and I have removed SCSI support, and the problem is from this
[06:09] <stamen> jhutchins: am I wright
[06:10] <jhutchins> stamen: Yes, most USB storage devices are mounted using scsi emulation.
[06:11] <stamen> jhutchins: and they want SCSI support, are they?
[06:11] <jhutchins> stamen: Yes.
[06:12] <jhutchins> stamen: scsi support may help with CD/DVD support as well.
[06:12] <stamen> jhutchins: ok
[06:12] <stamen> jhutchins: I will recompile
[06:12] <BluesKaj> is there such a program that does text character recognition... I have an old document that i'm trying to scan , but the legibility is compromised due to it's age ...does anyone know if such program even exists ?
[06:12] <jhutchins> stamen: Since it's modular, it won't load and take up memory unless it's needed, so it's fine to leave it enabled.
[06:12] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Yes.
[06:13] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: sane should include ocr.
[06:13] <BluesKaj> ocr ? is that what that is ? ...DOH !
[06:13] <stamen> jhutchins: ok
[06:13] <BluesKaj> I have kooka
[06:13] <stamen> 10x
[06:14] <BluesKaj> and it has ocr
[06:14] <jhutchins> There's also gocr and ocrad.
[06:14] <hatta> someone should write one and call it ocrap
[06:15] <BluesKaj> hatta, is it crap ?
[06:17] <MidMark> waylandbill: with smb4k it ask for password but doesn't use it, it returns this error: "anonymous login successful, share dir doesn't exist"
[06:18] <MidMark> of course I don't know why anonimous login instead of user and password
[06:18] <MidMark> seems it wants to use anonymous everytime
[06:19] <BluesKaj> ok MidMark open kcontrol and find samba in the list , in samba you will see an option to share folders each folder is password protected so it waill ask for your password for each folder or dir that you want to share , but only once , and that's it
[06:19] <psb154> MidMark, you can set up your shares to be user specific or global.
[06:19] <psb154> or have I missed something, was away.
[06:20] <stamen> jhutchins: does usb needs RAID
[06:20] <MidMark> BluesKaj: try
[06:20] <stamen> jhutchins: I think it isn't
[06:23] <jhutchins> stamen: No, usb doesn't need raid.
[06:28] <guiden> HELP!
[06:29] <guiden> I want to programme qt stuff, but I don't know which package to install?
[06:37] <david> #kubuntu-es
[06:39] <provolik> hi to all
[06:39] <CaptainApathy> yo
[06:39] <provolik> Is there someone that can help me about scribus?
[06:39] <CaptainApathy> I can't... have you asked in there chatroom?
[06:39] <blue|palm> how do you make a folder writable by all applications?
[06:40] <provolik> Now I try
[06:40] <hatta> chmod ugo+w folder
[06:40] <blue|palm> hatta: can you do that from konqueror?
[06:40] <CaptainApathy> or chmod a+w folder
[06:40] <CaptainApathy> :P
[06:40] <blue|palm> CaptainApathy: Can you do that from konqueror
[06:40] <hatta> dunno, I don't use it
[06:40] <jhutchins> blue|palm: No, console.
[06:40] <blue|palm> jhutchins: thanks
[06:41] <hatta> I'm sure it can be done through konq
[06:41] <jhutchins> from a GUI filemanager, it woudl probably be accomplished through right-click/properties.
[06:41] <blue|palm> jhutchins: tried it, didnt make a difference
[06:41] <blue|palm> jhutchins: maybe i need a sudo konqueror to be able to do that?
[06:41] <hatta> yeah you have to be the owner of the directory in order to change its modes
[06:42] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Unless you own the files, probably.
[06:42] <blue|palm> jhutchins: i do
[06:42] <jhutchins> blue|palm: Don't use sudo for running GUI apps though, use kdesu instead.
[06:43] <blue|palm> jhutchins: gimp still cant overwrite the file though :(
[06:43] <blue|palm> jhutchins: does it work recursively?
[06:43] <jhutchins> 1)it's open for editing somewhere else, 2)it's still not set right.
[06:43] <blue|palm> jhutchins: does chmod work recursively through a folder
[06:43] <jhutchins> blue|palm: It will work recursively.  chmod -R <mode> <location>
[06:44] <jhutchins> chown might also be of interest.
[06:45] <blue|palm> jhutchins: it didnt work recursively because when i went into the folder (subfolder of the one i ran chmod on) and then ran chmod ugo+w * it worked...
[06:45] <blue|palm> jhutchins: oh it has to have -R thanks
[06:48] <marcelloDoItBeTt> hi! i need a little help.. how can i see .wmv file with kaffeine?? thnks
[06:52] <jhutchins> marcelloDoItBeTt: I don't know with kaffeine, but xine or mplayer should handle it.
[06:52] <jhutchins> !formats
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <jhutchins> !mp3
[06:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <marcelloDoItBeTt> they don't in my kubuntu...
[06:52] <marcelloDoItBeTt> where can i download em?
[06:53] <jhutchins> marcelloDoItBeTt: see above
[06:54] <graft> is there a way to make some patch requests for builds for feisty?
[06:54] <graft> i.e., there's this 'transparent konsole' patch that there's pretty much no reason not to include
[06:56] <mauro> graft: im not sure, but i odn thtink its possible, you might wanna ask a MOTU
[07:02] <parkerw207> Is it possible to get speech recognition on linux ?
[07:04] <CaptainApathy> parkerw207: probably.  I don't know what packages you would need to install though
[07:04] <parkerw207> hmm i did instal what it hought was speech recognition but i couldnt findi it once it was installe dlol
[07:05] <CaptainApathy> hm... and it's not in the kde application list?
[07:06] <CaptainApathy> or in the system settings?
[07:08] <parkerw207> nope
[07:08] <CaptainApathy> hm... dunno then..
[07:10] <parkerw207> its ok
[07:16] <david> #kubuntu-es
[07:16] <jhutchins> Well, let's see, there's a speech reccognition interface for amarok, so I'd say there's speech recognition on linux somewhere.
[07:16] <tate> Hi, i have problems with my Inet connection. I have a 56 internal kbps modem and kubuntu don't recognize it, but ubuntu does. My first problem is that the app "KPPP (i guess)" didn't find the "resolv.conf" i need to create it, how can i do it? Is there any automatic modem search?
[07:16] <surgy> ok guys i have 3 things i need to do, 1: i need to format my secondary hdd 2: i need to run a complete system check on my kubuntu operating system to fix any errors there 3: i need to make a 100% complete backup of my kubuntu hdd onto my secondary hdd
[07:24] <lecci> hi
[07:24] <lecci> how i can compile a c++ file?
[07:24] <niklas> hi
[07:24] <hatta> gcc
[07:25] <CaptainApathy> do you have the g++ compiler?
[07:25] <surgy> anyone know the package name of the new sdl ?
[07:25] <surgy> !sdl
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <atphalix> install base-utils pack
[07:27] <surgy> atphalix: that will give me sdl 1.2+
[07:27] <surgy> ?
[07:27] <lecci> yes i have the g++ compiler...
[07:27] <CaptainApathy> lecci: then g++ filename.cpp
[07:28] <lecci> ok...try
[07:29] <jarino> ciao tutti!
[07:29] <Tessa> Hi, i have an Intel i915 graphics card. When i try to enable some GL screensavers, the screensaver itself just shows up in the upper part of the monitor. So i tried to look at my graphic hardware settings. i changed to administration mode and the window changed to a red frame but doesnt show any content. does anyone have an idea?
[07:29] <lecci> ty CaptainApathy!!!
[07:31] <surgy> ok when im compiling dosbox..... i got all the depencys right, ./configure goes through without errors..... then i tried ./make and it doesnt exsist :(
[07:31] <surgy> so now what?
[07:31] <_Schlumpf> surgy: try make
[07:31] <CaptainApathy> yeah, just make
[07:32] <surgy> cool thnx
[07:34] <surgy> after "make" what do i do?
[07:34] <surgy> install-sh ?
[07:35] <Tessa> make install
[07:35] <Tessa> sudo make install
[07:35] <surgy> and then?
[07:35] <CaptainApathy> use the program
[07:35] <X2B> Hey guys, I got one question: I wrote an init script to start lircd on my system and inserted it in /etc/init.d and with "update-rc.d scriptname defaults" I added it into the single rc.? dirs... So I got the links but it still won't work... What can I do?
[07:36] <Dr_willis> be sure its executable?
[07:36] <osum> hello
[07:36] <Dr_willis> id just toss the commands in the rc.local script myself.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> but im lazy
[07:37] <surgy> dr_willis: it works, my next question, is it installed in the source directory? or can i delete it? and if so will it mess it up to move the source directory?
[07:37] <X2B> it is -rwxr-xr-x
[07:37] <osum> ....test
[07:37] <X2B> just like all the others
[07:37] <osum> ok, bye
[07:37] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I was just wandering, what's the best C++ compiler for Linux (kubuntu 6.10)
[07:37] <Dr_willis> surgy,  if you did a 'sudo make install' then it installed whever it was confgured to install to.
[07:37] <X2B> Alllex: gcc
[07:37] <moparisthebest> gcc Alllex
[07:37] <X2B> g++
[07:38] <Alllex> Thanks
[07:38] <Dr_willis> is there any otehr C compiler?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> C++ even.. intel has some alternative dont they.. but other then that..
[07:38] <surgy> dr_willis: i just ran ./configure with no parameters, how do i know where it was configured to install?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> surgy,  watch what happens when you did a  make install
[07:38] <X2B> surgy: Or run: ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
[07:38] <Dr_willis> if it was a kde app.
[07:39] <X2B> ok sry ^^
[07:39] <Dr_willis> im not sure what hes compiling exactly. :) but X2B  suggestion is often needed to compule the kde themes and other kde apps.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> and get them to install to the right place
[07:39] <surgy> dr_willis: thats alot..... any hints to narrow it down?
[07:39] <X2B> Well I have never compiled anything else by myself ^^
[07:40] <Dr_willis> surgy,  i LOOK at the output and see where it installs to..
[07:40] <surgy> i have just compiled dosbox
[07:40] <Dr_willis> if it installs to the wrong place i use the --prefix= option to fix it
[07:40] <surgy> dr_willis: im looking but it enters and leaves dozens of directories
[07:40] <Dr_willis> often i make things install to /home/myusername/opt
[07:41] <Dr_willis> surgy,  and the path to these dirs are? /usr/???  /opt/???
[07:41] <tate> Hi, i have problems with my Inet connection. I have a 56 internal kbps modem and kubuntu don't recognize it, but ubuntu does. My first problem is that the app "KPPP (i guess)" didn't find the "resolv.conf" i need to create it, how can i do it? Is there any automatic modem search?
[07:41] <X2B> but would rc.local work like a shell script?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> X2B,  it should. ive done a lot of things with rc.local
[07:41] <Dr_willis> X2B,  you dont need to use 'sudo whatever' in there either.
[07:41] <surgy> make[4] : Leaving directory `/home/surgy/Desktop/dosbox-0.65/src/hardware'
[07:41] <X2B> ok, i will try that thx
[07:41] <Alllex> Guys- do I just type in "gpp <filename>" into the cmd console? Because I'm getting alot of errors with my C++ files?
[07:41] <surgy> so it is installed in the source directory
[07:42] <Alllex> gcc*
[07:42] <Dr_willis> if you did a make install it should be copying some stuff to /usr/bin most likely. or /usr/local/bin (also common)
[07:42] <CaptainApathy> Alllex: try g++
[07:42] <Alllex> Command not find
[07:42] <Dr_willis> leaving --> it went to that dir.. and compiled stuff in there.. then went out and on to the next dir.
[07:42] <Alllex> gcc works- but has errors..
[07:43] <CaptainApathy> do you have a c++ compiler installed?
[07:43] <Alllex> Yeah- that could be the prob..
[07:43] <CaptainApathy> ok, install g++ :P
[07:43] <Alllex> Thanks- I assumed Kubuntu had one installed seeing as the gcc command worked- but... Heh..
[07:44] <CaptainApathy> gcc is standard for *nix, but not g++
[07:44] <Alllex> That would explain
[07:44] <Alllex> THanks
[07:44] <tate> Why ubuntu recognize my internal modem and kubuntu don't?
[07:46] <atphalix> I have a problem with the eagle-usb modem package shiped with ubuntu
[07:46] <atphalix> but I sucessfully instaled the modem from source
[07:46] <surgy> kewl moved directory and it works
[07:48] <Dr_willis> surgy,  but is it using the version you compiled.. or the older version in the repos
[07:49] <surgy> dr_willis: what is the version in the repos?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !find dosbox
[07:49] <ubotu> Found: dosbox
[07:49] <Dr_willis> you decided to use the source.. befor checking if the repos were even up to date?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !info dosbox
[07:49] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[07:50] <surgy> lol it is up to date both repos and my compile
[07:50] <Dr_willis> which seems to me TO be one of the few packages that is up to date...
[07:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> thats amazing..
[07:50] <surgy> dr_willis: i need to learn how to compile from source, so i chose a non essential thing :) and it turned out awsome
[07:51] <Dr_willis> my system is so screwy right now - i cant even isntall a lot of the dev packages and stuff.
[07:51] <atphalix> Dr_willis: it is the version that I compiled from the official eagle-usb site
[07:52] <surgy> dr_willis: how do i do a full system scan? im looking for something like scan disk
[07:52] <atphalix> the ubuntu package is broken
[07:52] <Dr_willis> surgy,  you are thinking in windows terms then.
[07:52] <Dr_willis> surgy,  when the linux system boots.. if it finds problems - it 'should' fsck the drives thus 'scandisk'ing them for errors
[07:52] <surgy> dr_willis: not exactly every thirty restarts it forces this type of check
[07:52] <Dr_willis> it WILL scan if it finds a problem
[07:53] <Dr_willis> or it should. :)
[07:53] <Dr_willis> the eveyr 30 is a 'force to check just in case' option.
[07:53] <surgy> ok
[07:53] <mildner> hi
[07:53] <surgy> now whats a good program to format my secondary hdd?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> just power off the system now with the disks all mounted.. and see what happens when you power up.
[07:53] <mildner> where can I get help in german?
[07:53] <pdinoto> Hi. Need help to diagnose a frecuent 1-2min desktop freeze on a Lenovo 3000 N100 laptop.
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !dr
[07:54] <Dr_willis> surgy,  mkfs is 'the' program to format drives. :)  unles sya want a fancy gui/partition tool like qtparted
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> no, tha's not it.
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> !dr
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> the bots are going nuts...
[07:54] <Dr_willis> well you format 'filesystems' that you make on the drives by partitioning the drive with fdisk. or similer.
[07:54] <atphalix> or qtparted
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <surgy> dr_willis: you know i want the gui :)
[07:56] <Dr_willis> surgy,  thats not what you asked for.. so Phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht
[07:57] <Dr_willis> i could of had the thing fdisked and formating by the time it tool ya to ask the question.. :)
[07:57] <surgy> dr_willis: lol
[07:57] <Dr_willis> by the time the gui loaded even...
[07:57] <surgy> dr_willis: what backup program do you suggest?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> Depends on how/what your needs are - i tend to use 'mondo/mindi' to backup my whole system
[07:57] <Dr_willis> well work time for me. byee
[07:58] <surgy> dr_willis: i need something so that after i reinstall linux i can restore it to its exact condition as it is today with all my programs and everything
[07:58] <surgy> by :(
[07:58] <jeff_> HI, all.  Quick question about Kate and .kateproject files -- are they supported/used anymore?
[07:59] <jeff_> Or has that functionality been kind of taken over by the sessions?
[07:59] <atphalix> surgey: you need to save your disk to an iso image
[08:02] <surgy> atphalix: you have a 40gb disk?
[08:03] <rooi> anyone try triple boot on a macbookpro yet? (mac os x, win xp, kubuntu)
[08:03] <surgy> atphalix: i just want to be able to make a complete backup and have a complete restore when i need it including my gui settings my drivers my fstab my movies everything
[08:03] <blue|palm> Beryl: when using CTRL + ALT + LMB to rotate the cube, the windows zoom off the surface (quite a distance for me) i would like to lessen the distance they come off the face of the cube, is it possible?
[08:03] <surgy> blue|palm: try #beryl
[08:04] <blue|palm> surgy: no ones replying :( so i thought it try here
[08:04] <blue|palm> surgy: thanks tho
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> blue|palm: #ubuntu-effects ?
[08:05] <surgy> blue|palm i tried beryl and didnt like it or i whould help you :( sorry and best of luck
[08:05] <rooi> anyone install kubuntu using a swap file instead of a swap partition?
[08:06] <rooi> trying this out but am unable to get around having to format /
[08:07] <atphalix> what about installing into an ext3 file instead of partition?!
[08:08] <blue|palm> surgy: thanks
[08:08] <rooi> ?? didnt quite get ur question
[08:08] <blue|palm> Admiral_Chicago: lol, the only guy responding in there doesnt know
[08:08] <rooi> i've got a single partition that im trying to install on
[08:09] <rooi> have created the swap file on it
[08:09] <rooi> and am not following the install gui
[08:09] <rooi> it gets to a point where you pick the mount / and the partition /dev/sda3
[08:10] <rooi> it says you MUST reformat this, but if i do that then i lose my swap file
[08:10] <rooi> wondering if there is any way around this
[08:10] <rooi> sorry, few lines up - i AM following the install giu
[08:10] <rooi> gui too.
[08:11] <underdog5004> is there a modifier for ls to view hidden files?
[08:12] <rooi> ls -a
[08:12] <rooi> all hidden files with begin with a "."
[08:12] <rooi> ".imahiddenfile"
[08:16] <MidMark> at the end with one computer it ask for user and password with smb4k but it totally doesn't care about that, so I resolved with smb://user:password@pc
[08:17] <MidMark> but I still don't know why one computer try always anonimity instead of asks for user and password and USE them
[08:17] <MidMark> waylandbill: ^
[08:17] <MidMark> jhutchins: ^
[08:20] <nscad_nathan> anyone know if a firewall would block svn access?
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> nscad_nathan: no it shouldn1t
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> shouldnt*
[08:32] <ciga> hi
[08:32] <ciga> I have a double layered DVD-RAM (9.4GB). how do I use it with kubuntu?
[08:33] <mX> is it possible to make an installable preconfigured version of kubuntu?
[08:36] <soulrider> !help
[08:36] <soulrider> is the bot gone
[08:36] <soulrider> ?
[08:36] <soulrider> oh no
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider: yes
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> there he is
[08:37] <soulrider> no, i dont need help
[08:37] <soulrider> ahh :)
[08:37] <soulrider> !botsnack
[08:37] <soulrider> i just cant live without this bot
[08:37] <arriesp> bye people
[08:37] <soulrider> bye arriesp
[08:37] <soulrider> the bot sint really responding
[08:38] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:41] <tino_> hi all
[08:41] <tino_> I have a different question
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ask
[08:42] <tino_> I look to a app for show all exported functions of a shared library
[08:43] <aseigo> nm
[08:43] <nscad_nathan> Admiral_Chicago  - I'
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> I'm trying to check out from svn.skolelinux.org and it doesn't connect
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> any ideas why that might be?
[08:44] <tino_> i have see the "Dependency walker" on windows
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> I am behind a schools firewall, which is why I thought that might be it
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i can ping it, so it's not down
[08:44] <nscad_nathan> blarghhh
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> they might have blocked the port
[08:45] <tino_> can everyone help me?
[08:45] <soulrider> do they ahve kubuntu at yoour school ? or is this your computer
[08:46] <sittisal> tino_: ask
[08:46] <hatta> no, everyone can not help you
[08:46] <hatta> someone can help you maybe
[08:47] <tino_> Ok again. I have see on a windows client the App dependency walker and now i look on Ubuntu..
[08:47] <sittisal> tino_: if we don't know the question who can help you?
[08:48] <vontux> how do I format a thumbdrive that is in a file format not automounted by ubuntu?
[08:48] <sturts> anyone have xgl going on kubuntu?
[08:48] <sittisal> tino_: if you are italian and you have some difficult to explain contact me in pvt...
[08:49] <tino_> sittisal: no i are a swiss :->
[08:49] <sittisal> lol
[08:50] <sittisal> tino_: the question?
[08:50] <tino_> sittistal: Do you have an idea?
[08:50] <sittisal> what is the app dependency walker?
[08:51] <vontux> how do I format a thumbdrive that is in a file format not automounted by ubuntu?
[08:51] <tino_> sittisal:http://www.dependencywalker.com/
[08:51] <apollo2011> I am having some trouble with the ubuntu repos. I am trying to install the kde-devel package, but it won't install because there are some package dependencies that are not going to be installed. Can someone help me?
[08:51] <sturts> mount /dev/sda? /mnt/thumbdrive
[08:52] <hatta> you shouldn't format mounted volumes
[08:52] <sturts> apt-get build-dep xxx apollo
[08:52] <sittisal> tino_: ok... now it's clear
[08:53] <sittisal> i don't know if exist any kind of this software for linux
[08:53] <dr_> hhelo
[08:53] <tino_> oooh no.
[08:53] <sittisal> maybe ld
[08:54] <sittisal> yes...
[08:54] <dr_> 56666666666666666666666666666666
[08:54] <sittisal> try ld from shel with a linux app
[08:54] <sittisal> shell
[08:54] <tino_> ld? Its not ldd?
[08:55] <apollo2011> sturts: I still get this output afterward: http://pastebin.com/881605
[08:57] <sturts> did you get an error when you did build-dep?
[08:57] <apollo2011> no
[08:57] <sturts> try that..
[08:57] <apollo2011> $ sudo apt-get build-dep kde-devel
[08:57] <apollo2011> Reading package lists... Done
[08:57] <apollo2011> Building dependency tree
[08:57] <apollo2011> Reading state information... Done
[08:57] <apollo2011> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[08:57] <apollo2011> ksut@Playroom1-Kubuntu:/usr/local/src/kpilot$
[08:58] <vontux> hatta: lets say that the drive I am trying to format is not in a format recognized by ubuntu, will it be in /dev?
[08:58] <sturts> yes
[08:58] <Lynoure> apollo2011: out of curiousity, are you on edgy or dapper?
[08:59] <apollo2011> edgy
[08:59] <vontux> sturts: thankyou
[08:59] <sturts> no prob
[08:59] <Lynoure> apollo2011: good (otherwise I would have told you kpilot is not syncing because of the kernel, not because of kpilot)
[09:00] <xubuntutester> hello
[09:00] <Lynoure> xubuntutester: there might be #xubuntu too, if you need it
[09:01] <apollo2011> Lynoure: ur very observant to figure out I was working on fixing kpilot :-)  I am trying to follow the directions in Linux Journal on how to fix it, and it says you may need to install kde-devel and I got a make error saying I was missing kde development files so I went to install that package, and it won't install
[09:01] <xubuntutester> in xubuntu they send me to here
[09:01] <xubuntutester> i try to start kasablanca but every time he says
[09:02] <xubuntutester> /usr/local/kde/bin/kasablanca
[09:02] <xubuntutester> kasablanca: cannot connect to X server
[09:03] <Lynoure> apollo2011: What kind of problem you have with it? I cannot probably help much, but I want to know what else is wrong with the palm stuff.
[09:03] <xubuntutester> i send ./configure ,make and make install as root
[09:03] <apollo2011> Lynoure: with installing kde-devel or with kpilot?
[09:03] <Lynoure> apollo2011: with kpilot
[09:04] <SolidSource> !ICQ
[09:04] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:05] <casev01> hi
[09:05] <casev01> how can i install qmake?
[09:05] <casev01> i need some repo?
[09:05] <apollo2011> Lynoure: I know I had it working awhile ago, but I stop using my Palm Tungsten T, so I have tried syncing in awhile. I want to start using it again so I started up kpilot and now everytime I sync, new stuff on the Palm gets synced to the PC, but not vice versa. Sometimes, the entry on the PDA gets deleted, while it is retained on the PC. I have found several complaints on the Internet that this is a bug in the current Ubuntu version of kpilot. Linux
[09:05] <apollo2011>  Journal now has a fix for it, but obviously, I can't compile the new kpilot until I have the proper packages installed.
[09:06] <sturts> anyone have xgl going?
[09:06] <xubuntutester> noody a idea to my problem?
[09:06] <Lynoure> apollo2011: oh, that's irritating.
[09:08] <apollo2011> Lynoure: If ur interesed, here is the Linux Journal piece: http://pastebin.com/881621 I also found a bug for the kde-devel package problem: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101
[09:08] <casev01> nobody knows...
[09:09] <Lynoure> apollo2011: Good to hear it has been reported. Thanks
[09:11] <Huey> is there a way to find out which package was responsible for installing a certain file on the system?
[09:11] <ciga> dpkg -S somefile
[09:12] <rooi> is there a workaround for doing the install and not formatting the partition?
[09:13] <Lynoure> casev01: Did apt-cache search qmake  already/
[09:13] <Lynoure> ?
[09:16] <marcel> hi
[09:16] <Lynoure> casev01: If you have not, time to learn to use that command now :)
[09:16] <Lynoure> casev01: then do apt-cache show thefirstpackagenameshown
[09:17] <marcel> I am trying to install updates and I get a message "could not exec dpkg!"any ideas?
[09:20] <shadowhywind> is there someway to limit a programs usage of ram?
[09:21] <LjL> shadowhywind: i don't know. there is a way to limit an *user's* usage of RAM, though
[09:21] <shadowhywind> i don't want to limit the user as a whole, just one program.. mostly just Wine, becuase it likes eating all my ram
[09:22] <XVampireX> People, how can I change my accounts picture?
[09:25] <casev01> it doesnt find any package :(
[09:26] <KiPSeRoN> !vcd
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <casev01> i found this... in spanish
[09:27] <casev01> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/32331
[09:27] <soulrider> casev01: do you speak spanish? if not i could translate for you
[09:29] <duckdown> Hi all.. I need help from someone who knows the SSH command pretty good, is there an ssh support channel anywehre
[09:30] <casev01> yes
[09:30] <casev01> ;)
[09:30] <Lynoure> duckdown: just ask the question?
[09:31] <Lynoure> duckdown: ssh is common, many people know it pretty good.
[09:31] <duckdown> I would need help from someone with PuTTY so I can show them what I mean :(  it's probably a very simple solution, regarding syntax
[09:31] <Lynoure> casev01: It should find qt3-dev-tools
[09:32] <duckdown> I am using ssh -D#### to open a socks proxy from the host I SSH to, but in PuTTY i can click a box that says "allow outside users" as well, so another machine on my network can also use it.  But that port appears closed to anyone except that computer
[09:32] <duckdown> its just manipulating the ssh command some how to make it listen for all computers
[09:32] <casev01> yhx
[09:32] <casev01> thx
[09:36] <sturts> anyone running xgl?
[09:36] <jhutchins> duckdown: What is it you're trying to do?
[09:36] <duckdown> okay
[09:37] <jhutchins> duckdown: Do you want (all) other computers to be able to connect to your linux box?
[09:37] <HymnToLife> sturts, help for XGL in #ubuntu-effects please
[09:38] <duckdown> ya, if i have 2 computers, 'hive' and 'trace', then once 'hive' establishes an ssh connection to the vpn, hive can redirect applications to 'localhost:####' , but 'trace' cannot enter 'hive:####' because that port isn't listening to anybody except localhost
[09:38] <duckdown> in putty theres a little tick box
[09:38] <duckdown> that makes it listen for all computers rather than just the localhost
[09:39] <duckdown> im just using 'ssh -D#### my.outside.network.com'
[09:41] <lnxmomo> hi
[09:41] <lnxmomo> anyone hear?
[09:43] <HymnToLife> lnxmomo, about 350 people
[09:46] <casev01> mm, someone knows how to install uira?
[09:46] <hatta> I know how to install ufia
[09:46] <casev01> ufia?
[09:46] <hatta> it's a joke, nm
[09:46] <casev01> :s
[09:46] <casev01> xD
[09:47] <lnxmomo> hi
[09:47] <atidem> hello
[09:47] <lnxmomo> i am using 64 bit and i cnt seem to install kde themes using kcontrol. it says theme has no preview and wont apply it. i am trying to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27578
[09:48] <lnxmomo> i untarred this b4 anyone says anything
[09:48] <sturts> I'm fucking bored
[09:48] <LjL> !ohmy
[09:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:48] <soulrider> lol  LjL
[09:49] <hatta> family friendly?  how does one get a family?
[09:49] <hatta> doesn't get much more friendly than that
[09:49] <sturts> how many familys run linux?
[09:49] <lnxmomo> mine does
[09:49] <soulrider> sturts: lots
[09:49] <x_link> Hi
[09:49] <lnxmomo> anyone answer my question?
[09:51] <gregd> not likely. svn over http is most common.
[09:51] <sturts> hey look its a cock but its smaller
[09:52] <MidMark> hi, someone know a program that can put a password into my pdf files?
[09:53] <sturts> google midmark
[09:53] <maku> do i need to do anything special to get amarok to play audio cds?
[09:53] <sturts> no
[09:53] <maku> mine wont recognize them
[09:53] <MidMark> sturts: wow I didn't know about google, now I will google about google
[09:53] <MidMark> anyone else?
[09:53] <omgponiezlol> anyone else have issues updating python on dapper
[09:54] <omgponiezlol> iirc, there was a fix for the edgy release
[09:54] <lnxmomo> can anyone tell me how i can get a mac os launcher thing at the bottom of my screen,
[09:54] <lnxmomo> not a superkaramba one
[09:54] <omgponiezlol> also, iirc the depends was python 2.4* not python 2.4=>
[09:55] <casev01> i need a flash editor in linux
[09:55] <casev01> someone knows one?
[09:55] <Lynoure> lnxmomo: mac os launcher? Are you serious?
[09:56] <hellcattrav> i still can't figuire out the repositories to get amarok to play mp3's
[09:56] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[09:56] <hellcattrav> i looked with both synaptic and adept
[09:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:56] <xenol> well build sources.lst on that link
[09:56] <sturts> what?
[09:56] <xenol> hellcattrav: i mean use  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic and u need to isntall libxine-extracodecs
[09:56] <Lynoure> lnxmomo: You get that by installing mac os. It's not free software.
[09:57] <hellcattrav> oh
[09:57] <hellcattrav> xenol: can i install that with adept or synaptic?
[09:58] <atidem> casev01: f4l
[09:58] <hellcattrav> and i can't open that link
[09:58] <hellcattrav> error
[09:58] <Vuen> hi, has anyone managed to configure ktorrent to proxy tracker communications?
[09:58] <Vuen> it doesn't seem to want to do it here.
[09:58] <hellcattrav> never mind
[09:59] <javier> hola canijos
[10:00] <hellcattrav> ok should i include source repositories?
[10:03] <hellcattrav> ok idk what im doing
[10:03] <extern> what is the command to end a task?
[10:03] <atidem> extern: kill
[10:04] <theD3viL> why apollon dont want to connect to any gift-?[22:01:38]  (#) T@nChy (#) says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> papa =**
[10:04] <theD3viL> [22:01:55]  theD3viL says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> na kaj ??
[10:04] <theD3viL> [22:02:51]  theD3viL says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> js mam tud tebe rd ?!?!
[10:04] <theD3viL> [22:02:53]  theD3viL says:
[10:04] <theD3viL> na to?? =)
[10:04] <Bastok> Bonjour
[10:06] <julle> When i do a apt-get update it always hangs at 99% waiting for header, how do i fix this?
[10:07] <sturts> this apt has super cow powers!
[10:08] <ricmik> Hi! Does anyone know how I get java to work i firefox on Kubuntu?
[10:08] <hellcattrav> hey if i name a file school year 2006-2007 would that cause problems? if theres spaces?
[10:09] <ricmik> I have java-common installed
[10:09] <zorglu_> julle: seems a bad sources.list. one repository being unreachable
[10:09] <zorglu_> !source | julle
[10:09] <ubotu> julle: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:09] <dz70ftracker> !easysource
[10:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:09] <dz70ftracker> that might also be useful
[10:09] <zorglu_> julle: the link from dz70ftracker is likely more usefull indeed
[10:10] <julle> dz70ftracker: and zorglu_ thank you all!
[10:11] <zorglu_> !java | ricmik
[10:11] <ubotu> ricmik: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:12] <ricmik> zorglu_: I've already installed java-common with apt-get.. Azureus works, but it doesn't look like Firefox knows that it's installed..?
[10:14] <zorglu_> ricmik: you did what is explain on the page ?
[10:14] <ricmik> no, sorry
[10:14] <ricmik> I'll read it ;)
[10:14] <zorglu_> ricmik: good :)
[10:45] <extern> after the fglrx driver update, glxinfo says "direct rendering: no", it should be yes
[10:46] <extern> what might be wrong?
[10:48] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I hopefully- have just installed GPP onto Kubuntu 6.10
[10:48] <Alllex> Is there anyway I can check if it has been succesful?
[10:50] <equinoxeB> hy there...
[10:50] <ereslibre> hi... i have just installed kubuntu on my laptop (on desktop i have gentoo) and i wonder how to set up a wireless network with wpa protected password... i only can see wep...
[10:50] <equinoxeB> I can't manage to run XGL right...
[10:51] <equinoxeB> I have Beryl...
[10:51] <equinoxeB> and it's VERY SLOW
[10:51] <NightBird> ereslibre, me too :-\
[10:51] <NightBird> equinoxeB, are you using ati?
[10:51] <equinoxeB> yes...
[10:51] <equinoxeB> 8.32 prop drivers
[10:51] <equinoxeB> installed ok...
[10:51] <SpAwN> anyone know of a free service like no-ip's port 80 redirect?....my isp blocks port 80 and id like to run apache on a off number port. but the no-ip service either uses my ip in the adress bar or puts a border around the page
[10:51] <NightBird> ok... are they actually working?
[10:52] <equinoxeB> warcraft is workin' fine...
[10:52] <equinoxeB> :)
[10:52] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I hopefully- have just installed GPP onto Kubuntu 6.10
[10:52] <Alllex>  Is there anyway I can check if it has been succesful?
[10:53] <NightBird> so if you run fglrxinfo, it tells you you are using an OpenGL vendor string "ATI Technologies Inc."?
[10:53] <equinoxeB> yes, it does
[10:53] <NightBird> ok, are you telling xgl to use screen 1?
[10:53] <equinoxeB> oh
[10:53] <equinoxeB> damn
[10:53] <equinoxeB> it doesn't anymore...
[10:53] <equinoxeB> DAMN
[10:54] <NightBird> are you using xgl right now?
[10:54] <equinoxeB> no, kde...
[10:54] <NightBird> if so, then that is probably expected...
[10:54] <equinoxeB> yup
[10:54] <equinoxeB> it worked... :|
[10:54] <NightBird> the only reason why it wouldn't is because your graphics card supports multiple openGL instances...
[10:54] <equinoxeB> I had ATI :P
[10:54] <NightBird> ok, you'll need to fix the driver problem first
[10:54] <NightBird> :P
[10:55] <equinoxeB> I think I get MESA everytime I'm running adept
[10:55] <equinoxeB> and full upgrade...
[10:55] <equinoxeB> guess it overwrites my drivers...
[10:55] <NightBird> it shouldn't
[10:55] <equinoxeB> Is there a way to block MESA?
[10:55] <NightBird> I would check dmesg for errors from the ati driver trying to start up
[10:56] <equinoxeB> I mean... kill.... destroy...
[10:56] <equinoxeB> something REASLLY BAD...
[10:56] <equinoxeB> :P
[10:56] <NightBird> no, don't block mesa, just make sure ati works, and that it defaults to it
[10:56] <equinoxeB> I'll just reinstall the drivers... AGAIN... :|
[10:56] <NightBird> no
[10:56] <NightBird> check the messages
[10:57] <NightBird> there may be an message in there that tells you why it stoped working
[10:57] <equinoxeB> X logs?
[10:57] <NightBird> maybe, but try dmesg | grep fglrx
[10:59] <equinoxeB> something about card not DRI capable...
[10:59] <equinoxeB> I'll reinstall :)
[10:59] <NightBird> ok...
[10:59] <equinoxeB> 10x man.
[10:59] <equinoxeB> I'll be back and worship (if it works L) )
[10:59] <equinoxeB> :)
[10:59] <NightBird> I'm sure there is an easier way to do it then reinstalling, but if you want to do that, then have fun
[10:59] <equinoxeB> I don't want to.
[10:59] <NightBird> well... maybe not easier.... but a better way maybe
[11:00] <equinoxeB> but I don't have the master log skill :P
[11:00] <surgy> how do i assign a particular partition to a mount point?
[11:01] <surgy> i have a hard drive (sda) that i just formated and i saved my old mountpoint now i wish to remount the hdd to the old mountpoint how do i do this?
[11:02] <NightBird> surgy, I think you'll want to edit the /etc/fstab file
[11:02] <surgy> nightbird, i assumed that, but what exactly do i add?
[11:03] <NightBird> surgy, I'm.... not sure... :P
[11:03] <NightBird> can you mount it normally?
[11:03] <NightBird> like kubuntu auto mounts filesystems to /media/*
[11:04] <surgy> nightbird using the command sudo mount /storage            no becuase the new paritions are not set to the mount point /storage
[11:05] <surgy> here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/881697 wanna take a look?
[11:06] <NightBird> ok, do you know where the drive is located in the /dev/ directory?
[11:06] <surgy> nightbird: /dev/sda
[11:06] <NightBird> ok, have you tried mounting that to /storage?
[11:07] <surgy> how?
[11:07] <ricmik> One more question.. in Windows, backspace will navigate back in web-browsers (as well as shift-backspace navigates forward..) how can I change KDE to behave in the same way?
[11:07] <xenol> plz in this # chmod u+x /usr/sbin/stdsl.sh the # symbol means sudo?
[11:08] <surgy> xenol: no # means comment
[11:08] <NightBird> try "mount -t autofs /dev/sda /storage"
[11:08] <NightBird> (to surgy)
[11:08] <NightBird> or if you know the file system, you can tell it to use that filesystem instead
[11:08] <surgy> nightbird: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[11:09] <NightBird> is sda the physical drive, or the partition?
[11:09] <surgy> nightbird let me verify that? will you pm me to keep clutter down?
[11:10] <xenol> surgy: if i want to u se chmod i need to add it to stdsl.sh or just  type it to terminal?
[11:10] <surgy> xenol: got me there
[11:11] <xenol> surgy: my friend is having problems  with vigor318 adsl modem
[11:11] <surgy> xenol: never tried that i always had broadband......
[11:12] <xenol> surgy: well i need some help # chmod u+x /usr/sbin/stdsl.sh so it start evrytime he starts his kubuntu i need to add this to the stdsl.sh with kate ?
[11:13] <surgy> xenol: like i said twice i dont know
[11:13] <xenol> surgy: any ideas where i could get help plz?
[11:14] <surgy> !adsl
[11:14] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:14] <surgy> !help
[11:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:17] <Staren> adept says I have gcc installed -- How do I enable c++ support?
[11:18] <Gretl> Staren:  you called it with g++ ?
[11:18] <ricmik> are there any software that I can use to control CPU-speed on a Centrino processor?
[11:18] <Staren> I tried to compile a program I downloaded and it said cpp failed the sanity check.
[11:19] <Staren> google leads me to suspect this means c++ isn't enabled.
[11:19] <TheDebugger> Staren: g++ :)
[11:19] <Staren> I called it with ./configure
[11:19] <Staren> for the program. I'll check what that called...
[11:20] <Gretl> you have to install the essentials
[11:21] <Staren> g++ says command not found.
[11:21] <ken76> ciao
[11:21] <Staren> adept says the gcc package is installed though.
[11:21] <ken76> hello!!!
[11:22] <Gretl> Staren: you have to install the essential building tools
[11:22] <Gretl> look in adept for the whole package
[11:22] <jbranco> staren, you have to install g++
[11:22] <Staren> what is the package name? g++?
[11:22] <jbranco> yes
[11:22] <jbranco> search for that
[11:23] <Staren> Ah, thanks!
[11:23] <mrb137> anyone else running vmware with edgy run into a problem starting vmware server after latest linux-headers update?
[11:23] <TheDebugger> Staren: No..
[11:23] <TheDebugger> Staren: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <TheDebugger> Staren: This will install everything you need
[11:26] <Staren> Thanks! Now it says
[11:26] <Staren> Err, it worked, but now it says it can't find something else.
[11:26] <Staren> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:27] <Staren> X is a rather vague description for it to give me... What's X?
[11:28] <cntb> howto bkp mbr and bootsector with dd command ?
[11:28] <jbranco> staren: sorry can't help you there, once i downloaded g++ i was able to compile c++ programs without problems
[11:28] <dabear> hi, ehm, do anyone know how i Can open links from chat to konqueror in a new tab, and not a new window?
[11:28] <Gretl> right click and select so
[11:29] <dabear> ont work
[11:29] <Gretl> ups sorry
[11:29] <dabear> wont
[11:29] <Gretl> yap sorry just saw that
[11:29] <dabear> that opens in a window, not tab...
[11:29] <ricmik> How can I control the speed of a speedstep processor.. anyone?
[11:30] <cntb> dabear solution IMHO is copy link to clipboard, open new tab paste address
[11:30] <dabear_> disconnected there...
[11:30] <dabear_> cntb, you said something more?
[11:31] <slyfox> Any idea what minutes does Kcron need? I get this
[11:31] <slyfox> kcronlomMha.tmp":1: bad minute
[11:31] <slyfox> errors in crontab file, can't install.
[11:31] <dabear_> that's what I'm doing now :p
[11:31] <surgy> how do i give permission to read + write +execute to all users for a given partition and mount point?
[11:32] <slyfox> surgy: fmode=0777 did you try that?
[11:32] <surgy> ummm is that the whole command?
[11:32] <slyfox> surgy: fmode=777
[11:32] <slyfox> surgy: not sure :) I am a noob maybe somethinkg like sudo chmod fmode=777
[11:33] <surgy> bash: fmode: command not found
[11:33] <Gretl> chmod
[11:33] <Gretl> you can use the gui in system settings
[11:34] <vcef> hi
[11:34] <vcef> how do I change default application for certain file extensions which is offered by firefox's open dialog?
[11:34] <surgy> hi
[11:34] <Gretl> or open konq as admin right click on file and adjust permissions
[11:35] <vcef> for example - I click on link to pdf file and dialog appears which asks me if I want to save the file or open it with default app
[11:35] <surgy> gretl: lol you dont know how funny that is to me :) but not an option at this point
[11:35] <vcef> and I want to change that default app from evince to kpdf
[11:36] <dabear_> web behaviour -> advanced  :D
[11:37] <dabear_> found it! open in tab when called externally ....
[11:39] <angasule> !soundblaster
[11:39] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[11:41] <vcef>  I want to change the default application which firefox offers me when I click on a link to pdf file and it asks wheter I want to save or open. How do I do that?
[11:43] <xenol> plz if i want one file to start after pc turns on i need to use chmod in konsole or edit that sh and add chmod there?
[11:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> in KPPP, how do I enable pulse dialing?
[11:51] <specialbuddy> is there a way to get the wireless assistant to work without entering my pass everytime?
[11:51] <xenol> how is that possible that i dont have enough persmissions to enter lost+found in my home?
[11:51] <NightBird> nope, it requires a super user's abilities
[11:52] <NightBird> er... that was to specialbuddy
[11:53] <specialbuddy> can I give myself super user abilities so I don't have to enter the pass because it's really annoying
[11:53] <NightBird> specialbuddy, it's possible, but strongly discouraged due to the massive abilities you give yourself to royally screw up your system
[11:53] <specialbuddy> yeah
[11:54] <specialbuddy> I just want it for that app
[11:54] <specialbuddy> not the rest
[11:54] <xenol> plz how can i make gziped backup using dd?
[11:55] <NightBird> I don't know of how to automate logging in for a certain program
[11:55] <angasule> do current linux drivers for the Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 support anything in hardware aside from MIDI? Does the 5.1 work well in both digital and analog?
[12:00] <morghanphoenix> what's the thing that monitors processes in KDE? Something is still running at 100% CPU and I need to kill it but don't know the process ID.
[12:01] <angasule> morghanphoenix: top runs in a console and will tell you, I guess there must be ktop or something...
[12:01] <flaccid> ksysguard
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> err
[12:01] <flaccid> ctrl + esc with kde default shortcuts
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> what is the offtopic?
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> that is
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> kthx
[12:01] <pwn4tt4ck> bye
[12:01] <NightBird> did you hear about the boxing pirate?  He had a killer left hook!
[12:01] <flaccid> bye bye
[12:02] <morghanphoenix> GNU Chess engine it was
[12:02] <flaccid> yeah that thing goes hectic
[12:02] <morghanphoenix> Knights didn't kill it when I quit
[12:02] <flaccid> i wish they would fix that up
[12:02] <flaccid> its annoying
[12:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> anyone here
[12:03] <flaccid> there is 322 nicks
[12:03] <NightBird> that there are
[12:03] <morghanphoenix> 322 by the count on the side of my client
[12:04] <flaccid> just reduced by one thanks to snikker
[12:04] <flaccid> hmm wb
[12:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> I'm trying to install drivers and I need to put file bcmwl5.inf into /usr/sbin but I don't have permission- how can I copy the file using the terminal
[12:04] <morghanphoenix> sudo cp it, or kdesu a konqeror session
[12:04] <flaccid> dettoaltrimenti_: sudo mv bcmwl5.in /usr/sbin
[12:05] <flaccid> yeah mv for move cp for copy
[12:05] <graft> wait, what?
[12:05] <graft> you need to copy bcmwl5.inf into /usr/sbin?!
[12:05] <snikker> flaccid: why thanks to snikker?
[12:05] <flaccid> yeah i don't know why you would need it
[12:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks
[12:05] <flaccid> snikker: just a crap joke about the number of people here soz
[12:05] <graft> dettoaltrimenti_: you're almost certainly doing something wrong, there
[12:05] <snikker> flaccid: oh, ok :-)
[12:06] <morghanphoenix> I use krusader, nice little file manager.
[12:06] <flaccid> the /usr/sbin is for system binaries. a .inf looks like a windows driver file
[12:06] <flaccid> krusader is like my biatch at work
[12:06] <flaccid> so good
[12:07] <morghanphoenix> Whenever I'm updating anything I keep a root mode krusader session open to move packages to my backup section on the external drive, keep a backup of all packages and source I have installed.
[12:08] <hatta> krusader is so nice
[12:08] <graft> has anyone ever got this avant window manager working?
[12:08] <hatta> only file manager that's ever been able to bring me back from the command line
[12:08] <flaccid> same hatta
[12:08] <flaccid> time to get coffeee. i'm asleep
[12:08] <flaccid> bbs
[12:09] <morghanphoenix> Between krusader and yakuake I'm set.
[12:09] <hatta> yakuake eh
[12:10] <JohnFlux> eww
[12:10] <angasule> it's a quake-like console, it's great :)
[12:10] <JohnFlux> that's that japanese porn act i think
[12:10] <morghanphoenix> Terminal, drops down from the top of your screen
[12:10] <JohnFlux> oh
[12:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> graft: yeah I probably was. I'm trying to get the wireless working on another laptop- I installed ndiswrapper and am following these instructions now: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[12:10] <JohnFlux> not what I was thinking of
[12:10] <angasule> JohnFlux: bukakke? not the same thing :P
[12:10] <morghanphoenix> Pretty, hides out of the way with the push of F12, and keeps all my terminal session in nice little named tabs.
[12:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> graft: but the last few lines don't work because there is no /etc/ndiswrapper, I don't know why
[12:11] <hatta> interesting
[12:11] <hatta> does it work if you're not using the whole kde environment?
[12:11] <vegas> what's the off-topic channel again?
[12:11] <hatta> krusader and amarok are the only kde apps I use realy
[12:11] <morghanphoenix> Not sure, never tried it in fluxbox, and don't have gnome
[12:11] <graft> hatta: probably the key bindings wont work
[12:11] <morghanphoenix> !offtopic
[12:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:12] <graft> dettoaltrimenti_: hrm... never used ndiswrapper, so can't help a whole lot
[12:12] <morghanphoenix> Amarok is my friend, better for managing my iPod than iTunes is.
[12:13] <vegas> i need to get a new ipod
[12:13] <anatoly> hello
[12:13] <vegas> i kind of miss mine
[12:13] <vegas> but...can't really justify it...i just use my psp most of the time