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[03:28] <ivoks> anyone around? :)
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[03:15] <zul> heylo
[03:16] <alehke> hi
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[05:42] <Keybuk> would anyone admit to knowing much about inotify?
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[09:50] <st3> we reported a critical bug about bcm43xx here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/85404
[09:50] <st3> we are receiving a lot of bug reports from ubuntu users, please fix it asap
[09:50] <st3> thank you
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[11:33] <BenC> st3: for one, ogra was getting bcm43xx crashes and/or poor performance
[11:33] <st3> what does poor performance mean?
[11:33] <BenC> damnit, and ogra just left
[11:34] <BenC> poor performance means if he was more than 10 feet from the AP, he lost connection
[11:34] <st3> note that 4311 and 4318 are partially supported
[11:34] <BenC> I think that performance issues are mostly 4318 related
[11:34] <st3> there are big issues with interferences and power transmission
[11:34] <BenC> but the oopses are an issue regardless
[11:34] <BenC> he has an AMD64 laptop with 1G ram
[11:35] <BenC> and I thought that might be related, but didn't have time to debug his system
[11:35] <st3> ah yes, there are some experimental patches by larry finger
[11:35] <BenC> give me a few minutes to pull up some bug reports
[11:35] <st3> you should have included that ones, instead
[11:35] <BenC> wth is that bug report unchangeable by me?
[11:35] <st3> i don't know, the bug was filed by michael
[11:36] <st3> (link: ftp://lwfinger.dynalias.org/patches)
[11:36] <BenC> oh, viewstatus
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[11:36] <st3> (e.g. ftp://lwfinger.dynalias.org/patches/patch_2.6.20_for_DMA_over_1GB)
[11:36] <BenC> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/77280
[11:37] <BenC> that's an unload bug
[11:37] <BenC> ogra's oops happened at random times during usage
[11:38] <st3> it's softmac related
[11:39] <st3> by the way, did you have him check /proc/interrupts?
[11:39] <BenC> the oops totally locked his box, so checking anything was impossible
[11:39] <BenC> If I remember right, the oops was in interrupt
[11:39] <st3> even with netconsole?
[11:40] <st3> is linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu) a vanilla kernel?
[11:40] <BenC> netconsole doesn't bring the box out of a total lockup :)
[11:40] <BenC> it's mostly vanilla
[11:40] <st3> any patches related to softmac?
[11:40] <BenC> none
[11:41] <st3> he should enable full debugging output for both softmac and bcm43xx, and paste some more lines from dmesg right before the oops
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[11:42] <st3> ogra, BenC was telling me about your oops
[11:42] <ogra> right, i didnt have it since some time ..
[11:43] <st3> i think you should enable full debugging output for both softmac and bcm43xx, then post a bug report to bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de
[11:43] <ogra> but with the recent kernel i have it complaining about my firmware being to old
[11:43] <st3> with the ubuntu kernel, you mean?
[11:44] <ogra> indeed
[11:44] <st3> that's completely broken
[11:44] <st3> it uses a very old version of -d80211 branch
[11:44] <ogra> i only use ubuntu kernels, i dont have the time for kernel compiling :)
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[11:44] <ogra> well, then BenC should update that :)
[11:44] <st3> we received a lot of bug reports from ubuntu users for that kernel version
[11:45] <st3> anyway, could you try to enable debugging options in the kernel?
[11:45] <ogra> dunno, BenC do we have a debug kernel ? 
[11:46] <BenC> ogra: There's only small amounts of debug enabled, like softlockup
[11:46] <ogra> shouldnt we have a dbg image for tests ? 
[11:47] <ogra> with everything thats possible switched on ? 
[11:47] <st3> you could just recompile those modules, btw
[11:47] <ogra> (and a big warning note indeed)
[11:49] <BenC> ogra: Sure, if we want to double the amount of time and diskspace required to do it
[11:49] <BenC> e.g. i386 is already 5 kernels.....doing 10 would be really slow
[11:49] <ogra> indeed
[11:49] <zul> shazbut
[11:50] <ogra> well, i'm back to 2.6.20-5-generic, since -8 doesnt work at all ... -5 was completely stable, i havent seen any oopses with it
[11:51] <st3> what does it mean translated to vanilla naming scheme?
[11:54] <st3> so you didn't get that oops with the kernel you call -5, right?
[11:55] <ogra> thats the package version ...
[11:55] <ogra> right, i dot get them with the older version
[11:55] <st3> which i can assume is plain 2.6.20, no git snapshot, right?
[11:56] <ogra> i know BenC added some fixes during the oslo sprint so these might be the ones fixing it for me
[11:56] <st3> isn't there a changelog or something like that?
[11:56] <ogra> they must have appeared between -3 and -5 ....
[11:56] <BenC> st3: in git, debian/changelog
[11:56] <ogra> i think there is even a git tree
[11:57] <st3> is there a gitweb setup somewhere?
[11:57] <st3> (sorry, but i never used ubuntu, i'm not used to this)
[11:58] <st3> ah ok found it
[12:08] <st3> well, i can't find any related commit in git
[12:08] <st3> if you want to help, please send bug reports with debugging info to bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de and stating exactly what kernel are you using, thank you
[12:08] <st3> bye
[12:12] <BenC> st3: Our git is available from kernel.org
[12:13] <st3> i saw it
[12:14] <st3> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=summary isn't it?