[12:01] <drx> Chadarius, I sometimes wonder...
[12:01] <gavintlgold> hopposai: ok, i bet the problem i'm getting is the sudo part... hehehe
[12:01] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: i'm new to it myself, but it seems pretty straightforward
[12:01] <Hopposai> bbl folks, time to weboot
[12:01] <gavintlgold> hopposai: yeah, there we go, now i have a few more options
[12:01] <Roey> weboot.  Sounds like something you do when your Wii crashes.  Wiiboot.
[12:02] <bruenig> patrick_, oh sorry, I didn't read the error close enough, apparently the malformed line is somewhere else. Put the output of this "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-multiverse.list"
[12:02] <abo> is there a text mode irc client in ubuntu?
[12:02] <bruenig> abo, irssi
[12:02] <Chadarius> drx: track me down anytime man. I'll bend over backwards to keep you using Ubuntu with a smile on your face!
[12:03] <Slart> abo: I think bitchx is text mode too
[12:03] <lee___> total noob. sorry if this is annoying. i'll try one last time.... i'm doing a fresh installation of ubuntu and want the canned LAMP stuff that's all rolled into the server version but i also want the LiveCD and GUI on the desktop version. does anyone know if you can install the desktop version (so i have the liveCD and the GUI ) but then can install a canned apache/mysql/php something or other on top of the desktop?
[12:03] <Mumbles> has anyone in here got Gnump3d working ?
[12:03] <Chadarius> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chadarius
[12:03] <patrick_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5839/
[12:03] <Mumbles> becouse i get errors when i start up
[12:03] <HymnToLife> lee___, I don't know of a "canned" apache//php/mysql
[12:03] <patrick_> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5839/
[12:03] <drx> Chadarius, you may regret that offer someday  ;)
[12:03] <HymnToLife> but you can very well install them separately
[12:04] <Chadarius> drx: Never! :)
[12:04] <drx> Chadarius, and, no that's not a gay thing, not that there
[12:04] <Chadarius> drx: LOL
[12:04] <lee___> thanks HymnToLife. maybe some kind of something or other in a software repository?
[12:04] <drx> Chadarius, is anything wrong with that
[12:04] <Chadarius> drx: Is it wrong for a man to help another man fix his Ubuntu?
[12:04] <Chadarius> drx: Ok this is weird on Valentine's day though
[12:04] <lee___> HymnToLife, there was something in the fourms about the base installation not mattering that you can always add the GUI or the A/M/P later... but no help on where/how
[12:05] <HymnToLife> lee___, well, do sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql
[12:05] <drx> Chadarius, I think that's a don't ask don't tell kinda thing
[12:05] <HymnToLife> voil :)
[12:05] <elias__> goodnight guys!
[12:05] <bruenig> patrick_, do gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-multiverse.list and change the 3rd line adding the / like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5840/
[12:05] <HymnToLife> !lamp
[12:05] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:05] <elias__> thanks for the help
[12:05] <abo> how do I get how much memory I have in my graphic card?
[12:05] <elias__> ubuuuuuuuuuuntuuuu!
[12:05] <drx> Chadarius, to be fair to Ubuntu, my Office 2007 keeps crashing in Vista.  But, then, the solution *probably* won't involve editing .mnu and .config files and certainly won't involve mounting anything.
[12:05] <HymnToLife> abo, read the box ?
[12:06] <aoirthoir> brb i have to go pee pee
[12:06] <LjL> abo: if that's for a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - you don't need to fill that in, just leave it blank, it can autodetect it fine in most cases
[12:06] <Chadarius> drx: LOL no... it will probably involve waiting for MS to release a service pack in 6 months :)
[12:06] <abo> HymnToLife, ... no command/config file with that info?
[12:06] <bruenig> config files are fun to edit
[12:06] <aoirthoir> drx..no it will involve going through a bunch of screens, clicking numerous commands, downloading drivers or updates or other packages
[12:06] <HymnToLife> abo, not that I know of
[12:06] <lee___> thanks :)
[12:06] <abo> LjL, ... nothing related to that ..
[12:06] <aoirthoir> drx that is IF there is a fix in a reasonable time period.
[12:07] <meredydd> Okay, new question. If I don't have a net connection, and I have to go with just what's on the CD, how much will " Ubuntu Feisty HERD-3 ALTERNATE ISO" have on it?
[12:07] <LjL> abo: then  lshw -class display 
[12:07] <Roey> hi
[12:07] <bruenig> !hi | Roey
[12:07] <ubotu> Roey: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:07] <Roey> about this Feisty Fawn... does anyone else have problems connecting to a wifi network with a d-link dwl-ag650?
[12:07] <aoirthoir> drx.. that is why windows is good for HOME users and thats it... GNU/Linux is good for business users..which even in a windows based situation would require a professional in order to fix problems
[12:07] <bruenig> Roey, #ubuntu+1
[12:07] <Roey> ah
[12:08] <bruenig> linux is good for HOME users
[12:08] <patrick_> bruenig: that didnt help :\
[12:08] <patrick_> but thank you!
[12:08] <LjL> meredydd: Feisty is not a stable release, and the channel to discuss the testing of it is #ubuntu+1. anyway, you'll have all packages that are dependencies of the "ubuntu-desktop" package. i'm afraid i can't get you a list right now, though
[12:08] <abo> LjL, CHEERS... wonderful
[12:08] <patrick_> any other ideas?
[12:08] <bruenig> patrick_, that was the only difference
[12:08] <Chadarius> yeah I only use Ubuntu at home
[12:08] <aoirthoir> bruenig.. let me rephrase...
[12:08] <patrick_> i know, i dont get it
[12:08] <patrick_> ill try it again maybe a restart will help
[12:09] <aoirthoir> bruenig.. windows is AWEFUL for business users.. it is LESS aweful for home users
[12:09] <Roey> I just don't like how it does not come with emacs keybindings
[12:09] <Roey> ugh
[12:09] <aoirthoir> home that clarifies
[12:09] <Roey> makes it harder to use for me
[12:09] <drx> aoirthoir, we'll I'm trying to be unbiased, I work in Windows and Linux, and I've worked in Unix longer but with Windows more, and I would say Windows is easier to maintain by a longshot and requires less technical knowledge but that Linux/Unix are more stable overall IF you have that knowledge, which many don't (and I don't)
[12:09] <kane77> how do I hibernate from cli?
[12:09] <bruenig> OK I undersTAND what you are sAYIng now
[12:10] <meredydd> LjL: Rightie. (I'm aware of instability, please forgive.) So, that would give me a functioning window system, some apps, but, say, probably not a development toolchain?
[12:10] <aoirthoir> drx you will find with some studying.. that the linux is quite simple to run
[12:10] <Chadarius> aoirthoir: depends on the business and what its used for. Linux works great for point of sale machines and any users that don't require MS Office specifically
[12:10] <wolfwalker> For MS Office, there's always OpenOffice
[12:10] <Chadarius> aoirthoir: but you are right... its harder for businesses to adopt Linux in general
[12:10] <HymnToLife> meredydd, all the stuff needed for compiling (aka build-essential) wil be on the alternate CD too
[12:10] <wolfwalker> I just discovered it, and I LOVE it!
[12:10] <HymnToLife> at least, it has always been so
[12:10] <LjL> meredydd: quite correct. the alternate CD, however, *does* have GCC and friends on it, even though they're not installed by default (contrary to the Desktop CD, which doesn't have that at all)
[12:10] <aoirthoir> chad the only reason someone would require MS Office is because someone else is sending them MS office files
[12:10] <LjL> at least if i remember right
[12:11] <bruenig> wolfwalker, abiword is good
[12:11] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know how to get 3D Acceleration working for nVidia cards?
[12:11] <aoirthoir> chad actually I am saying the opposite..
[12:11] <LjL> !nvidia > youkilldkennedy    (youkilldkennedy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:11] <patrick_> bruenig: it also comes up with this error : when i try to reload http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5842/
[12:11] <drx> aoirthoir, I'm in for the long haul because I need a replacement for Netware, but *MS* did a lot of usability & driver work that just isn't there on Linux
[12:11] <Chadarius> aoirthoir: I wish that were true, but there are so many applications out there that use Office as well
[12:11] <meredydd> Aha. Score. I'm guessing that an IDE would be too much to ask for? :P
[12:11] <gavintlgold> youkilldkennedy: there's a cool program called "envy"
[12:11] <clearzen> Does anyone know how to use rsync mirrors?
[12:11] <gavintlgold> youkilldkennedy: sorry, script i meant
[12:11] <bruenig> patrick_, you could just delete that particular repository and it would work
[12:11] <youkilldkennedy> so sudo apt-get install envy?
[12:11] <youkilldkennedy> Oh...
[12:11] <youkilldkennedy> How's that work?
[12:11] <LjL> gavintlgold: that's not needed to get 3D support, at all.
[12:12] <Chadarius> aoirthoir: especially business apps that generate documents like loan documents and stuff like that
[12:12] <bruenig> patrick_, just put a # in front of the third line and then try to reload
[12:12] <LjL> youkilldkennedy: no, just follow the instructions of !nvidia please
[12:12] <GMWeezel> How can I make Ubuntu ignore an installed video card and use only the integrated one? If you are wondering why I am doing this, the installed one was cheap ($30 USD) and while it handles 3D rendering much better than the integrated card, it doesn't do 2D too well which is pretty much the only thing I do on my Linux box.
[12:12] <youkilldkennedy> Okay, will do
[12:12] <aoirthoir> chad since windows requires a professional to run, it is no more simple than linux
[12:12] <gavintlgold> sorry if i was giving misinformation
[12:12] <wolfwalker> I wish someone could tell me the answer to this question. Ubuntu/Kubuntu/other -buntus won't run on my computer. Apparently Ubuntu types are the ONLY Linux distros that won't run. Can someone suggest a distro that is as close to Ubuntu as possible?
[12:12] <HymnToLife> GMWeezel, remove the other one ?
[12:12] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, Debian
[12:12] <GMWeezel> HymnToLife: I want windows to use it for games.
[12:13] <wolfwalker> |HymnToLife:| I tried Debian. I was lost without the GUI desktop :/
[12:13] <aoirthoir> GMWeezel: i dont use non-free systemks if I can avoid it.. I have one more program to get rid of and then I wont be using windows ever again
[12:13] <mc2003> morning guys
[12:13] <patrick_> which repository is it bruenig?
[12:13] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, which Debian did you try ?
[12:13] <patrick_> i tried the # and that didnt help
[12:14] <bruenig> patrick_, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-multiverse.list and then put a # in front of the security repository
[12:14] <wolfwalker> |HymnToLife:| I dunno. Googled "Debian", went to the homepage, started a bit torrent.
[12:14] <Chadarius> aoirthoir: I suppose they both require professionals in a business sense though. In a business sense its more about the cost of moving to applications that are not Windows centric and less about the cost of support people since that will remain a constant relatively speaking for many businesses
[12:14] <wolfwalker> It just said Debian.
[12:14] <posingaspopular> help? my log in to my ubuntu failed. apparently my password/username is not what i thought they were and now im stuck back on a live cd?
[12:14] <Stormx2> Issue! My printer works fine with a driver supplied by canon. Well, it works on the "print test page"! nothing else will print! It just sits there in the print queue! I don't know what to do, I've tried from gedit, firefox, etc...
[12:14] <bruenig> patrick_, in front of the whole line (in front of #deb)
[12:14] <bruenig> *deb
[12:14] <GMWeezel> aoirthoir: That's nice but I still do;
[12:14] <mc2003> newb question...if i use once a swap space of about 5% lets say doshnt it have then to go back to 0% when the load is cooling?
[12:14] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, you certainly got stable then (aka Sarge) which is pretty old and can cause problems on recent hardware
[12:14] <GMWeezel> aoirthoir: Linux can run the games I paid for.
[12:15] <GMWeezel> aoirthoir: *can't
[12:15] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, dowload testing (aka Etch) and you should be fine
[12:15] <Enphenitiie> So.. anyone got a link directly to the text only install of 6.10?
[12:15] <patrick_> yeah i tried that, didnt help haha what the hell!
[12:15] <clearzen> !rsync mirror > clearzen
[12:15] <patrick_> thank you for helping bruenig, i searched abit and then came here i dont know
[12:15] <bruenig> Enphenitiie, http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[12:16] <bruenig> patrick_, I meant Enphenitiie
[12:16] <aoirthoir> Chadarius:  I feel ya. In our case we have one old DOS program that we are migrating to a mysql/php setup (for now) and the Act! sales database program and then of course MS office..open office is a good replacement for that..and my program will replace the other two
[12:16] <clearzen> How do you use rsync to access mirrors?
[12:16] <AtTiLiO_78> ho all
[12:16] <AtTiLiO_78> hi all
[12:16] <mc2003> hi
[12:16] <posingaspopular> help?
[12:16] <aluno1> hi
[12:16] <aoirthoir> Chadarius: combined these other programs are costing us many many man hours in lost productivity not to mention the financial cost..but its the lack of ability to change things and the security that most cause us to desire a move to ubuntu
[12:16] <Chadarius> aoirthoir: Sweet... I'm working on a plan to migrate maybe about 10,000 workstations to Linux in the next 12-18 months
[12:17] <AtTiLiO_78> question, who is the last release BERYL or COMPIZ ?
[12:17] <bruenig> who is the last release?
[12:17] <posingaspopular> Chadarius: help me out here
[12:17] <bruenig> is who the right pronoun?
[12:17] <dsquare> what
[12:17] <dsquare> who is for people
[12:17] <Slart> AtTiLiO_78: I think beryl is more up to date.. not sure though
[12:17] <dsquare> or groups of people
[12:17] <bruenig> !beryl
[12:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:17] <gavintlgold> ooooo beryl is cool
[12:17] <gavintlgold> i love it
[12:17] <dsquare> ok, if i install beryl, or compiz, is my desktop going to crash a lot?
[12:17] <Chadarius> aoirthoir: For me its finding the low hangning fruit out of the 200,000 desktops we support that can handle running Linux from an applicaiton perspective
[12:17] <aoirthoir> Chadarius: well that is tiny compared to what we have..heck I have to convert 3 servers over (one is already over) and 20 workstations
[12:17] <meredydd> posingaspopular: Can you mount your root filesystem from the liveCD?
[12:17] <aoirthoir> :D
[12:17] <dsquare> will i lose my work if i install beryl or compiz??
[12:17] <hackeron> hmm, I've read the release notes and dev pages for ubuntu feisty and I still don't know what new features are added - I see a re-arranged system->preferences menu to a control-panel style tool, anything else?
[12:17] <Slart> indeed.. I just with they would fix the screensaver lock thingy
[12:18] <bruenig> !beryl | dsquare
[12:18] <ubotu> dsquare: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:18] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: what you need?
[12:18] <GigaClon> what is the format command?
[12:18] <AtTiLiO_78> i have installed compiz and is right
[12:18] <meredydd> posingaspopular: Can you mount your root filesystem from the liveCD?
[12:18] <ompaul> !nickspam | ||drake||
[12:18] <ubotu> ||drake||: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[12:18] <k1piee> Hello
[12:18] <Slart> dsquare: nope. you can install, turn on, off etc.. nothing lost.. nothing broken
[12:18] <meredydd> posingaspopular: (Does that sentence even make any sense?)
[12:18] <posingaspopular> uh it makes sense
[12:18] <dsquare> ahhh very nice slart! ty! im gonna do it now.
[12:18] <posingaspopular> i dontknow HOW
[12:18] <aoirthoir> Chadarius: yeah for smaller companies like ours it is much easier
[12:18] <posingaspopular> but i think its possible
[12:18] <||drake||> !nickspam | ompaul
[12:18] <ubotu> ompaul: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[12:18] <Slart> dsquare: there's a repository with prebuilt up to date packages out there
[12:18] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: sure... sudo df to find out the partitions and which one is which
[12:19] <bruenig> uh oh
[12:19] <meredydd> posingaspopular: The liveCD may have already done it
[12:19] <bruenig> and there he goes
[12:19] <Slart> dsquare: no config, just instant eye candy =)
[12:19] <gavintlgold> how can i make a hard drive writeable to someone other than root? i just figured out how to mount it, but now i can't copy files to it?
[12:19] <k1piee> out of interest
[12:19] <dsquare> wow incredible..
[12:19] <posingaspopular> what does the df stand for? should i pastebin?
[12:19] <Chadarius> posingaspopular:  then look at the list... will tell you if its mounted already
[12:19] <gavintlgold> sorry, remove the last "?"
[12:19] <meredydd> posingaspopular: good idea.
[12:20] <Kenny> hello all
[12:20] <aridese> gavintlgold, try looking up "chmod" "chown" commands, especially the recursive option
[12:20] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: just a disk space usage tool that prints nice list of mounts
[12:20] <gavintlgold> aridese: ok, thanks
[12:21] <posingaspopular> which command shows you the partition?
[12:21] <paul_ubuntu> hey guys.. I'm getting this error while trying to install "error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: invalid ELF header" .. any advice would be appreciated :)
[12:21] <ShakespeareFan00> Hi
[12:21] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: will show it to you just running df if its mounted
[12:21] <bruenig> !hi | ShakespeareFan00
[12:21] <ubotu> ShakespeareFan00: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:21] <ShakespeareFan00> anyone on here familar with CVS?
[12:21] <Jarlaxe> Hi
[12:21] <aridese> i have a wi-fi PCI card set up and it works on an encrypted network; each time i turn the card on, i have to use iwconfig to enter the encryption key. is there any way to get by this?
[12:21] <GigaClon> yeah
[12:21] <bruenig> !hi | Jarlaxe
[12:21] <ubotu> Jarlaxe: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:21] <ShakespeareFan00> I need some help over on #wikicats
[12:21] <ShakespeareFan00> Sorry
[12:21] <ShakespeareFan00> #WikiCast
[12:22] <Jarlaxe> thanks
[12:22] <posingaspopular> give me a sec, pastebin is being screwy !pastebin
[12:22] <Chadarius> hehe
[12:22] <posingaspopular> !pastebin
[12:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <SmartMan> hi guys i need help for making ubuntu fairewall / router
[12:22] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5843/
[12:22] <bruenig> !firewall | SmartMan
[12:22] <ubotu> SmartMan: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:22] <eclipse__> Hi, i am trying to install NVIDIA driver for my system. my system has, Gforce4 440 card, i tried nvidia-glx driver but it does not start X. X crashes with error saying no Nvidia GPU dound, help please.....
[12:23] <LjL> !iptables > SmartMan    (SmartMan, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:23] <LjL> !firewall > SmartMan    (SmartMan, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:23] <ralphr_> Hello, on boot i'm getting an error "cannot create directory '/var/run/network/: no such file or directory". It's causing the loopback interface to not work. However, the directory is there and there is an ifstate file there too. Any ideas?
[12:23] <paul_ubuntu> hey guys.. I'm getting this error while trying to install "error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0: invalid ELF header" .. any advice would be appreciated :)
[12:23] <cheeseboy16> ..
[12:23] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: OK so doesn't look like its mounted
[12:24] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: try sudo fdisk -l to list out your drives and partitions so we can make sure we mount the right one
[12:24] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: unless you know its /dev/sdb1 or something
[12:24] <paul_ubuntu> nobody has any clue with mine?
[12:25] <bruenig> !patience
[12:25] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:25] <gavintlgold> yay... got the hd writing working... ran sudo chmod a=rwx media /hdb1
[12:25] <paul_ubuntu> hehe.. thanks for that ;)
[12:26] <aluno1> mother fuckers
[12:26] <gavintlgold> guys, is there any media center-like app for linux... i don't have a tv card, but does mythtv work anyway?
[12:26] <Lunar_Lamp> paul_ubuntu, what are you trying to install?
[12:26] <glok> anyone have an opinion on which tape backup program is most reliable?
[12:26] <Chadarius> paul_ubuntu: Can you give us some more context? What are you installing?
[12:26] <posingaspopular> it's spitting out something weird
[12:26] <paul_ubuntu> Lunar_Lamp: ubuntu christian edition
[12:27] <bruenig> hmmm
[12:27] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: paste bin it
[12:27] <dyrne> gavintlgold: there is a knoppix mythix livecd you could try out. why do you want it with no tv card?
[12:27] <SmartMan> ok anther something guys what is the best program i have to use as messenger for (MSN , Yahoo , etc
[12:27] <posingaspopular> you said sudo fdisk -
[12:27] <posingaspopular> l
[12:27] <dyrne> gavintlgold: knoppix myth
[12:27] <wolfwalker> So I went looking for this Debian distro you said to get. Etch, wasn't it?
[12:27] <posingaspopular> and everythign it returns?
[12:27] <wolfwalker> So is this it? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/bt-cd/
[12:27] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: sure why not?
[12:27] <gavintlgold> dyrne: i just want some cool way to brows videos on my hd... is there anything?
[12:27] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, yep
[12:27] <gavintlgold> browse*
[12:27] <Lunar_Lamp> paul_ubuntu, at what point in the install does it go wrong?
[12:27] <posingaspopular> wait i got it
[12:27] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[12:27] <posingaspopular> brb i have a dog
[12:28] <wolfwalker> Which of the many versions do I want?
[12:28] <wolfwalker> Or do I need all of them?
[12:28] <Chadarius> posingaspopular: I should check mine too they are outside
[12:28] <posingaspopular> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5844/ keep yourselfs busy with that. should take 5
[12:28] <wolfwalker> There's like more than 20 cds here
[12:28] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, note that if you want KDE of XFCE, you have cd's for them at the bottom
[12:28] <wolfwalker> KDE sucks eggs, imo
[12:28] <dyrne> gavintlgold: well nautilus isnt bad in that it makes vidclips of each one for an icon.
[12:28] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, if you have a net connection, you can get only the first one
[12:28] <bruenig> as does thunar
[12:29] <wolfwalker> But that's probably because they just didn't put enough care in the Kubuntu distro. It felt like a hastily redone Ubuntu.
[12:29] <paul_ubuntu> Lunar_Lamp: it goes through detecting hardware, creates whatever it needs for the x-session and that's where it dies with that error... (before getting into the gui) weird thing is, the error is in X, and I get the login screen if I click "OK" then it tries to login again (automatically) and quits again
[12:29] <guerby> hmm 2.6.20-6-generic boots but not 2.6.20-8-generic on my x86_64 feisty box, am I alone in seeing this?
[12:29] <Hopposai> gavintlgold: did it work?
[12:29] <gavintlgold> dyrne: yeah, but my friend has windows media center and it looks kind of cool.... i was just wondering if there was something like that for linux
[12:29] <wolfwalker> So do I just get the first one, or all of them?
[12:29] <Lunar_Lamp> paul_ubuntu, ah right, so you get it when loading up the live cd for the first time? Have you tried booting into safe mode?
[12:29] <gavintlgold> hopposai: yep, and then I ran chmod to get it to read/write without root
[12:29] <posingaspopular> gavintlgold: what is windows media center>
[12:30] <HymnToLife> wolfwalker, only the first
[12:30] <marshall> sup guys
[12:30] <wolfwalker> Thanks
[12:30] <marshall> anybody know how to go about burning a .bin cd image?
[12:30] <wolfwalker> Thank you for helping a rank newbie :)
[12:30] <GigaClon> gavintlgold, maybe MythTV?
[12:30] <aoirthoir> i like cheerios
[12:30] <HymnToLife> the other ones contain additional packages but if you have a net connection, you can apt-get them anyway
[12:30] <aoirthoir> does anyone know what the name cheerios means?
[12:30] <bruenig> windows media center is a crappy OS they put on the super low end computer they are trying to dump on idiots who say "cool a 300 dollar computer, what a deal"
[12:30] <dyrne> gavintlgold: well my friend uses kde with mythtv  kde is better on tv displays and is very customizable.  but ive never used media center
[12:30] <HymnToLife> aoirthoir, isn't that a bif !offtopic ?
[12:31] <marshall> anybody know how to go about burning a .bin cd image?
[12:31] <gavintlgold> dyrne: i don't have a tv card or even cable, but i was wondering if it would work anyway
[12:31] <aoirthoir> HymnToLife: not since general mills announced they are migrating all of their servers to ubuntu
[12:31] <Nikolas> !offtopic == NOT offtopic
[12:31] <posingaspopular> oh okay
[12:31] <gavintlgold> aoirthir: they are?
[12:31] <posingaspopular> yea im back guys
[12:31] <posingaspopular> verdict
[12:31] <gavintlgold> aoirthoir: they are?
[12:32] <patrick_> bruenig: any other ideas?
[12:32] <marshall> anybody know how to go about burning a .bin cd image?
[12:32] <bruenig> patrick_, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-multiverse.list
[12:32] <aoirthoir> brb
[12:32] <gavintlgold> thanks hopposai!! very helpful
[12:32] <frogzoo> marshall: mdf2iso is easiest
[12:32] <gavintlgold> (btw)
[12:32] <marshall> ok
[12:32] <marshall> thanks
[12:32] <Stormx2> E [14/Feb/2007:23:32:10 +0000]  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found! <-- CUPs is saying this. Any suggestions?
[12:32] <Chamuco> actually media center is not the low end is the high end windows xp
[12:33] <Chamuco> with extensions to handle tv card and stuff like that
[12:33] <Chamuco>  not better than mythtv
[12:33] <gavintlgold> yeah, media center is a program within windows xp i believe... if you get media center edition
[12:33] <bruenig> nonsense
[12:33] <gavintlgold> i don't really like it, but i like the idea of browsing files that way
[12:33] <fimp_> hi
[12:33] <patrick_> bruenig: that didnt help ! ahh
[12:33] <paul_ubuntu> Lunar_Lamp: it's not the live CD I'm trying to just do the install (regular), I'm gonna try Safe mode right now though see if that makes any difference, thanks for the tip appreciate it, if you can think of anything else my ears are open :)
[12:33] <fimp_> can someone help me with movie streaming?
[12:34] <bruenig> patrick_, what error do you get when you do "sudo apt-get update"
[12:34] <nn2> wow there are a lot of people on here!
[12:34] <patrick_> E: Malformed line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dapper-universe.list (dist parse)
[12:34] <SmartMan> some one using program it's name is NETCUT it using for cuting internet of any computer on the lan
[12:34] <Lunar_Lamp> paul_ubuntu, hmm, whilst I haven't used the christian edition myself, I thought all normal ubuntu installs were live-cds that you then clicked on "install" on the desktop to install.
[12:34] <Jarlaxe> good bye
[12:34] <bruenig> patrick_, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[12:34] <nn2> im using the new knoppix 5.1.1 and it rocks
[12:35] <patrick_> ah that worked!
[12:35] <posingaspopular> fimp_: problem?
[12:35] <patrick_> beautiful, thank you bruenig
[12:35] <nn2> the new kernal fixed my sound problem!
[12:35] <bruenig> yah for deleting a whole bunch of stuff until it works
[12:35] <fimp_> posingaspopular: I cant view the following video. I hear a short clip of sound, then it stops, but no video either. It's in Danish, but here is the direct link: http://sputnik-dyn.tv2.dk/player/asx.php?playlist=6118612,&ticketHandle=9746989:bfbefadbf6a144740311b6c1c24d08f6&free=true
[12:35] <patrick_> so update will restore all of that?
[12:36] <bruenig> patrick_, well with the automatix repos in your real sources.list those others aren't really necessary
[12:36] <nn2> somthing with the chip that controled my speekers?
[12:36] <Chamuco> anyone knows of a good how to on installing a 32 bit inside a 64bit ubuntu
[12:36] <patrick_> ahh  okay
[12:36] <paul_ubuntu> Lunar_Lamp: hehe.. you're probably right, I am kind of new to ubuntu... I used a few other distros before this.. but love ubuntu now... I messed around with fedora, yoper, centOS
[12:36] <gavintlgold> chamuco: doesn't it just work?
[12:36] <posingaspopular> what are you trying to view it in, under etc?
[12:36] <kitche> !chroot | Chamuco
[12:36] <ubotu> Chamuco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:36] <fimp_> posingaspopular: I installed linux mint which is using mplayer
[12:37] <Chamuco> TY
[12:37] <Roey> anyone here use a d-link dwl-ag650?  I'm having trouble getting mine to connecto the open wireless network here
[12:37] <gavintlgold> chamuco: i mean i installed ubuntu edgy 32-bit edition fine on my amd64 bit... is that what you meant?
[12:37] <posingaspopular> did you try the multimedia page
[12:37] <posingaspopular> !multimedia
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:37] <Lunar_Lamp> paul_ubuntu, I'm not sure precisely what extra software Christian Edition includes, but it *might* be an idea to just install normal ubuntu and install the extra packages yourself.  Just a suggestion :-)
[12:37] <kitche> fimp_: ask the linux mint channel for help if that's the distro that you use
[12:37] <Chamuco> no I have a 64bit ubuntu and want to have a chroot with a 32
[12:37] <fimp_> kitche: mint is ubuntu with some extra packages
[12:37] <Chamuco> I started but couldn't get it to work
[12:37] <ompaul> !chroot
[12:37] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:37] <kitche> Chamuco: follow the guide that ubotu
[12:38] <gavintlgold> chamuco, never mind then
[12:38] <kitche> fimp_: but doesn't mean it's supported here though
[12:38] <paul_ubuntu> Lunar_Lamp: yes that is exactly my plan actually hehe.. I was just hopign to save some major time in configuring / installing all the packages myself :) (lazy)
[12:38] <dom> does anyone know how i can tell if i have the latest version of GLX installed?
[12:38] <posingaspopular> Chadarius: i expect some answers when i come back
[12:38] <fimp_> posingaspopular: I tried that when I had ubuntu, no luck.
[12:39] <Brunellus_> what do I have to do to get it to make-kpkg
[12:39] <dexem_> hi, when I launch sabayon (as root) it gets frozen and says no errors. It's trying to connect to X. Why could it be this problem?
[12:39] <Brunellus_> dexem_: ask in #sabayon
[12:39] <Brunellus_> this is #ubuntu
[12:39] <dexem_> my distro is ubuntu :P
[12:39] <dexem_> anyway, I'll try there
[12:39] <dexem_> thanks
[12:40] <dexem_> uhm
[12:40] <dom> n/m, glxinfo
[12:40] <dom> so, i have 1.2, some parts of JOGL require 1.3, how can i upgrade?
[12:40] <dexem_> sabayon linux is not what I'm talking about
[12:40] <Mumbles> ok has anyone tired to install Gnump3d latley ?
[12:40] <dexem_> I'm talking abut gnome sabayon
[12:40] <Mumbles> i get - /usr/share/example-content/example-content is a recursive symbolic link
[12:40] <kitche> dexem_: are you using gksudo when you are starting it or just root
[12:41] <axa-axa> I'm using Edgy Eft and my screen goes black when it should start screensaver. Does anyone know what is the problem?
[12:41] <dexem_> kitche: sudo, but launching it from the control center does the same problem
[12:42] <woody451> bsr
[12:42] <private_pyle> what is Ubuntu?
[12:42] <kitche> dexem_: and the terminal doesn't say anything when you start it from the terminal
[12:42] <kitche> !ubuntu | private_pyle
[12:42] <ubotu> private_pyle: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[12:42] <LjL> !ubuntu > private_pyle    (private_pyle, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:43] <dexem_> kitche: just if I kill it with Ctrl-c
[12:43] <private_pyle> where is mark
[12:43] <private_pyle> i want to speak to mark
[12:43] <ntbnnt> private_pyle: to the left hand of debian whihc is right of god
[12:43] <BigMac> Is there a way to make opera the default application for links in irc and such?
[12:43] <noodles12> !ubuntulite
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntulite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <gavintlgold> byebye everyone
[12:43] <private_pyle> by god you mean freebsd?
[12:44] <ompaul> private_pyle, na, that would just be daemonizing stuff
[12:44] <Meltdown> yeah, what about freebsd, my friend tells me to run it... what makes it better then ubuntu really? =)
[12:45] <LjL> !offtopic
[12:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:45] <Keitaru> I just broke X now I am in text based terminal
[12:45] <ompaul> private_pyle, this is not a chat channel it is actually a support channel if you want "debate" have a look in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks (Meltdown you might be interested in this)
[12:45] <private_pyle> Keitaru type startx
[12:45] <Keitaru> i broke the resolution thing
[12:45] <LjL> Keitaru: by doing what?
[12:45] <Keitaru> xorg.conf
[12:45] <dom> can someone tell me how to upgarde my GLX server? i have i810
[12:45] <Keitaru> LjL: i added some lines
[12:45] <private_pyle> type edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[12:45] <LjL> Keitaru: then restore the backup of the previous version
[12:45] <leafw> any recommended CPU temperature monitor applet for gnome ?
[12:45] <jellobean> Dilemma: I am trying to install ubuntu 6.10 using a live CD, i insert the CD and it boots up fine, I pass the language and identify keyboard stage, but when i get to mount the CD-ROM it says it cannot find my drive (my bios reads my drive), does anyone have a similar problem, or know how to go around this...I read it is a problem with people that have SATA HD's
[12:45] <noodles12> do u guys know what happened toubuntu lite? the site is down and i can't find anywhere to download it
[12:47] <dexem_> kitche: this is what I get if I kill it with Ctrl+c      http://www.pasteserver.net/100
[12:47] <Keitaru> private_pyle will do !
[12:47] <ompaul> Keitaru, so do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and sort it out
[12:47] <private_pyle> then change the mode lines and off you go Keitaru
[12:47] <Keitaru> wow that sounds simple :P
[12:47] <Keitaru> <-- newbie xD
[12:47] <private_pyle> ompaul, wont he lose all other settings too??
[12:47] <LjL> Keitaru, the simplest solution is surely restore the backup that i'm sure you had done beforehand :)
[12:47] <axa-axa> I'm using Edgy Eft and my screen goes black when it should start screensaver. Can someone plase tell me how to fix this?
[12:47] <dom> anybody? xgl? latest version?
[12:47] <LjL> !xgl > dom    (dom, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:47] <ompaul> private_pyle, resetting them to how it started out ... doubt it
[12:47] <frogzoo> !fixres | Keitaru
[12:47] <ubotu> Keitaru: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:47] <dom> agh, not XGL, GLX
[12:47] <dom> i need the latest GLX
[12:47] <LjL> dom: AFAIK GLX is just an Xorg extension. you have it.
[12:47] <private_pyle> dri??
[12:48] <dom> um, yes?
[12:48] <LjL> dom: if you mean the nvidia driver (since the package is called "nvidia-glx"), that's a different issue.
[12:48] <private_pyle> if your having trouble get dri-devel
[12:48] <dom> the trouble is that i need the latest version
[12:48] <dom> glxinfo says i have 1.2
[12:48] <dom> jogl needs 1.3
[12:48] <LjL> dom: what distribution, what video card
[12:49] <dom> mesa, intel
[12:49] <private_pyle> which version of ubunti dom?
[12:50] <dom> edgy
[12:50] <dom> 6.10
[12:51] <dsquare> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?   <-- how do i make that not happen please?
[12:51] <dsquare> i am running a sudo install command
[12:51] <Keitaru> what does "sudo command do"
[12:51] <jellobean> Dilemma: I am trying to install edgy using a live CD, i insert the CD and it boots up fine, I pass the language and identify keyboard stage, but when i get to mount the CD-ROM it says it cannot find my drive (my bios reads my drive), does anyone have a similar problem, or know how to go around this...I read it is a problem with people that have SATA HD's
[12:51] <LjL> dsquare: by closing the other process that is using it. do you have other APT software running?
[12:51] <dom> ?
[12:51] <Mumbles> Has anyone installed gnump3d befor ?
[12:51] <private_pyle> Keitaru: switch user do command
[12:51] <Mumbles> im gettint wired errors here
[12:52] <dsquare> ljl no i have nothing but xchat and a mp3 player and my terminal window open..
[12:52] <posingaspopular> sudo is superuser
[12:52] <private_pyle> in other words, it switches you too a root account for the command
[12:52] <LjL> !adept crash fix | dsquare, then try this
[12:52] <Keitaru> private_pyle Thanks the edit command wasn't aloud
[12:52] <ubotu> dsquare, then try this: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:52] <ntbnnt> instead of having a root user
[12:52] <LjL> dom: sorry, i'm afraid i don't know enough (and can't find enough on google) to help you
[12:52] <Chamuco> jellobean: I have a SATA had some problems I am a newbie so I tried 2 install knoppix, fedora & had that trouble
[12:52] <dom> dangit...
[12:53] <bradley> i am looking for a sound program called jakosher-- i'm not sure if i spelled it correctly.  does anyone know where i can get it?
[12:53] <dom> anyone? latest GLX? intel card
[12:53] <jellobean> chamuco....what errors did you get when installing yours?
[12:53] <ntbnnt> woooo
[12:53] <LjL> root____: IRC as root is not a good idea, you know
[12:53] <Chamuco> then I installed suse and it worked but I then switched 2 ubuntu
[12:53] <dsquare> LjL, thanks for your help that worked perfectly!!!
[12:54] <Chamuco> same thing couldn't see the HD it could see the CD
[12:54] <jellobean> chamuco...did it finally end up working out for you?
[12:54] <dom> aaaaaaaanybody? latest GLX for INTEL?
[12:54] <Chamuco> also the chipset for my mobo is ATI
[12:54] <Chamuco> for the sata interface
[12:54] <bradley> i found it!  <jokosher> i was spelling it wrong.
[12:55] <Chamuco> try suse
[12:55] <frojnd>  hello I need help. I need to convert 434 pages of pdf into odt or word
[12:55] <jellobean> is it free?
[12:55] <Chamuco> I am not sure if the fact of having suse installed and then installing ubuntu over that may have made a difference maybe somebody elese here would know
[12:55] <frojnd> and I need to do this with pdftk
[12:55] <frojnd> how can I do this
[12:55] <dom> :'(
[12:56] <Chamuco> well suse was the first one that I was able to install, ubuntu works great I find it easier to install additional software
[12:57] <dom> anybody know how to get the latest GLX for intel?
[12:57] <jellobean> thanks for the help
[12:57] <jellobean> ill give a shot
[12:57] <cafuego_> frojnd: I don't think pdftk converts to anything but jpeg or pdf.
[12:57] <frojnd> oh
[12:57] <frojnd> :\
[12:58] <cafuego_> frojnd: So if you *have* to sue that, the answer is "not" ;-)
[12:58] <axa-axa> I'm using Edgy Eft and my screen goes black when it should start screensaver. Can someone plase tell me how to fix this?
[12:58] <frojnd> I tryed to convert with Kword, but the result is: everything is mixed up
[12:58] <frojnd> :s
[12:58] <cafuego_> frojnd: Yeah
[12:58] <frojnd> why is that
[12:58] <Chamuco> although I am still learning I have done many other things already in suse using KDE and now I am using gnome in ubuntu. in ubuntu ATI opoen sources drivers worked w/o a problem
[12:58] <frojnd> how can I set that pictures from pdf format will suit in Kword
[12:58] <cafuego_> frojnd: improper pdf support? non-opti,al conversion?
[12:59] <frojnd> cafuego_: I'm not following
[12:59] <Chamuco> I had a lot of problems getting ati display drivers I have a ATI x300 card w/2 monitor and wanted 2 d horizontal desktop rather than cloning
[12:59] <frojnd> Kword is for proccessing pdf into odt and from odt to pdf..
[01:00] <frogzoo_> Chamuco: did you try fireglcontrol?
[01:00] <cafuego_> frojnd: that doesn't necessarily mean it's good at it.
[01:01] <frojnd> yes, but for now I only know for Kword for process those files..
[01:01] <Chamuco> axa-axa: is the crt shuting at the same time that your screen saver is turning on?
[01:01] <frojnd> If I knew for any better program..
[01:02] <Chamuco> frogzoo_:  now my displays are working perfectly using the open source drivers & controler
[01:02] <axa-axa> Chadarius: I guess. Screen saver worked fine, but I've had to remove my home dir and make a new one (without previous config files), since then it behaves like this. Does it maybe have something to do with poser management?
[01:02] <Chamuco> axa-axa: U know how to check 4 what I said
[01:03] <jellobean> Dilemma: I am trying to install edgy using a live CD, i insert the CD and it boots up fine, I pass the language and identify keyboard stage, but when i get to mount the CD-ROM it says "No common CD-drive detected" (my bios reads my drive), does anyone have a similar problem, or know how to go around this...I read it is a problem with people that have SATA HD's
[01:03] <axa-axa> Chamuco: I guess. Screen saver worked fine, but I've had to remove my home dir and make a new one (without previous config files), since then it behaves like this. Does it maybe have something to do with poser management?
[01:03] <frojnd> cafuego: can pdftk convert pdf format into jpeg pictures (each page for itself for one jpeg picture) ?
[01:03] <frojnd> cafuego_
[01:04] <cafuego_> frojnd: Yup, that's what I use it for.
[01:04] <Chamuco> go to prefernces see power managment and check that the shut off of ur crt time is longer than that of your screen saver
[01:04] <axa-axa> Chamuco: I've specified screensaver to start after 20 min. and to put screen and computer to sleep (in power management) after 1 hour. But screen goes black after 20 min.
[01:04] <frojnd> so after I have pictures, I just have to paste them into writer...
[01:04] <cafuego_> frojnd: if images in an ODT document is fine, have a look at http://pdf2oo.sourceforge.net/
[01:04] <cafuego_> frojnd: I thought you needed actual editable text.
[01:05] <frojnd> no..
[01:05] <frojnd> couse there is too many pictures
[01:06] <cafuego_> I use pdftk to split a PDf into images, so users can browse a book on a website before they buy it :-)
[01:06] <Chamuco> axa-axa:  well change the time to a minurte and see what happens
[01:06] <ghostdog> i need install mysql-admin , what i do ? thank u
[01:06] <dan__> anyone know anything about gfire?
[01:07] <Gon> hey guys
[01:07] <mytruehero> What's a good program for syncing up my iPod? I'm getting nothing but grief from gtkpod.
[01:07] <Gon> need a lil help here :(
[01:07] <fgsfdsfgsfds> can i dual boot ubuntu and keep OSX on my intel MacBook?
[01:07] <cafuego_> frojnd: Actually, I lie. I sue `convert' from imagemagick.
[01:07] <Gon> how do i install ubuntu :(
[01:07] <axa-axa> Chamuco: Just about now, Ive disabled power_management and specified 1 min. in xscreensaver, and still the same, it goes black when it should show selected screensaver
[01:07] <dan__> anyone know anything about gfire?
[01:08] <dasickis> Gon: what do you mean?
[01:08] <Gon> when i try to install all i get is some irqpoll something
[01:08] <fgsfdsfgsfds> Gon- run from disc, install is on the desktop
[01:08] <dasickis> Gon: did you get the livecd
[01:08] <Gon> mmm
[01:08] <Gon> i think i did
[01:08] <frojnd> cafuego_: ? with this pdf200 I can put whole pdf into odt
[01:08] <frojnd> just like that
[01:08] <Gon> hold
[01:08] <Gon> lemme go try again
[01:08] <cafuego_> frojnd: looks like it, but from what I cna tell it uses ODP, not ODT.
[01:08] <fgsfdsfgsfds> can i dual boot ubuntu and keep OSX on my intel MacBook?
[01:09] <Chadarius> fgsfdsfgsfds: Yeah there is no reason why you can't
[01:09] <dasickis> fgsfdsfgsfds: try parallels
[01:09] <fgsfdsfgsfds> parallels?
[01:09] <frojnd> cafuego_: what the f ODP what is this
[01:09] <cafuego_> frojnd: dude
[01:09] <cafuego_> google
[01:10] <dasickis> http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_dual_boot_ubuntu_linux_mac_os_x.html
[01:10] <axa-axa> Chamuco: Now, I've specified to put monitor to sleep after 59 min. and it's same. I'll try now to put both (monitor and computer) to 59 min.
[01:10] <dasickis> fgsfdsfgsfds: that's for u
[01:10] <Chadarius> fgsfdsfgsfds: Parallels isn't dual booting, but it will let you run Ubuntu virually in OSX
[01:10] <frojnd> as far as writer eat it.. it's fine by me
[01:10] <fgsfdsfgsfds> thanks guys
[01:10] <dasickis> fgsfdsfgsfds: google mac linux dual boot
[01:10] <cafuego_> frojnd: ODP is Impress. I'd test to see if it cna export as ODT.
[01:11] <dasickis> fgsfdsfgsfds: or just try googling ubuntu dual boot "os x"
[01:11] <mytruehero> What's a good program for syncing up my iPod? I'm getting nothing but grief from gtkpod.
[01:11] <HymnToLife> amarok
[01:11] <HymnToLife> !amarok
[01:11] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[01:11] <axa-axa> Chamuco: No , it's no use. It's the same.
[01:11] <Chadarius> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[01:11] <Chamuco> no put the screen to sleep to 20 min put the screensaver to 1min
[01:11] <mytruehero> HymToLife: Thanks; I'll check it out!
[01:12] <axa-axa> Chamuco: please refere tome directly because I can hardly recognize you messages to me only.
[01:12] <dasickis> mytruehero: what's the problem you get when you plugin ur ipd?
[01:12] <dasickis> ipod*
[01:12] <axa-axa> Chamuco: I'll do that now...
[01:13] <lazrpark93> How do I change the default player for a .avi format? I have tried the method of right clicking and setting the "open with..." to vlc, but I am unable to change the repository by clicking or double clicking.
[01:13] <youkilldkennedy> Does anyone know of a N64 emulator for Linux? I need my mario kart fix...
[01:13] <bruenig> repository?
[01:13] <dasickis> lazrpark93: are u on gnome, kde, or ...?
[01:13] <lazrpark93> "click box"
[01:13] <bruenig> lazrpark93, right click, select properties, then change the open with
[01:13] <lazrpark93> gnome
[01:13] <mytruehero> dasickis: I'm not getting any problems when I plug it in. Ubuntu sees it, mounts it, and even gives it a nice custom icon. Just not able to get gtkpod working.
[01:13] <dasickis> what's the issue with gtkpod?
[01:14] <axa-axa> Chamuco: No, it's still the same.
[01:15] <lazrpark93> bruenig, I am when I click on vlc it unselects itself and will not allow me to change it.
[01:15] <LordUltimaDavid> so what are the top 3 torrent programs for gnome
[01:15] <mytruehero> dasickis: When I try to sync, it complains about not having imported iTunesDB. When I try to read iTunesDB, it freezes. Also, I don't like the need to have a separate app to do the syncing, as it doesn't easily get my playlists or song ratings. Was hoping that someone could recommend a better option.
[01:15] <LMNT_OX> hey all
[01:15] <dan__> yo!
[01:16] <Chamuco> what does it do at the 1 min  mark?
[01:16] <LMNT_OX> i just downloaded ubuntu, how do i install
[01:16] <lazrpark93> I believe I have encountered a bug in ubuntu 6.10 gnome.
[01:16] <dan__> you just smash ur head really hard on the keyboard
[01:16] <Chamuco> axa-axa: what does it do at the 1 min  mark?
[01:16] <Feldegast> LMNT_OX you downloaded an iso?
[01:16] <LMNT_OX> yea
[01:16] <LMNT_OX> took like 2 hrs
[01:16] <Chamuco> LMNT_OX: did you burn the image to a cd or just downloaded the file
[01:17] <Chadarius> LMNT_OX: http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/Downloading_and_Burning_an_Ubuntu_ISO
[01:17] <Feldegast> LMNT_OX you boot from the cd it makes and install it, did you want dual boot or something else?
[01:17] <dasickis> mytruehero: try this => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071&highlight=gtkpod
[01:17] <dsquare> how do i check if 3d acceleration is on please?
[01:17] <frojnd> how can I install this pdf200
[01:17] <Stormx2> Ack! My ruddy printer won't print under certain circumstances...
[01:17] <LMNT_OX> just dl the file....... need to dual
[01:17] <frojnd> I downloaded the program
[01:17] <dasickis> Stormx2: whats the deal?
[01:17] <frojnd> unag it
[01:17] <Stormx2> Well it will print test pages
[01:17] <frojnd> and now there are 3 files
[01:17] <Stormx2> But it won't print from gedit.
[01:17] <frojnd> readme, license and pdf200
[01:17] <Stormx2> And I don't know why ;__;
[01:17] <Chadarius> http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/Installing_Ubuntu_with_Windows_Dual-Boot
[01:17] <Chamuco>  glxgears
[01:17] <Feldegast> LMNT_OX do you have unpartitioned space to put it into?
[01:18] <LMNT_OX> no need help doing so
[01:18] <lazrpark93> When I right click on an avi file -> properties -> Open with, I am unable to change from "movie player" to vlc.
[01:18] <axa-axa> Chamuco: if I spcify monitor to go to sleep after 20 min, and screensaver to start after 1 min. then monitor still goes black after 1 min.
[01:18] <Chadarius> lazrpark93: Is this in Mozilla?
[01:19] <frojnd> based on this plain, README txt, can someone tell me how to isntall pdf200: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5850/
[01:19] <lazrpark93> no, this is in ubuntu gnome
[01:19] <stinger_au> yo
[01:19] <Keitaru> successfully installed beryl :)
[01:19] <Keitaru> that wasn't so hard
[01:19] <dan__> ive got beryl working :)
[01:20] <Keitaru> all i had to do was type Beryl
[01:20] <Chamuco> axa-axa:  silly ? did you specify a type of screensaver there is the blank screen one sure U don't have that one selected
[01:20] <Keitaru> in terminal haha
[01:20] <kyle_> Hi, I just updated and have found out that the xserver broke (I'm using irssi). What can I do in 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to get it working again?
[01:20] <axa-axa> Chamuco: GL ss worked well later, but here now I'll put some other ss
[01:20] <axa-axa> Chamuco: Yes of course.
[01:20] <ELEMENT_OX> so.....
[01:20] <MasterZen> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2157373#post2157373
[01:20] <Stormx2> Ah screw this
[01:20] <ELEMENT_OX> how do i partition my hd
[01:20] <MasterZen> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2157373#post2157373
[01:20] <Stormx2> I might as well just boot into windows. cya later.
[01:20] <dan__> Kyle: try and roleback to ur X backup file
[01:21] <MasterZen> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2157373#post2157373
[01:21] <Chadarius> lazrpark93: When you right click choose properties and then edit the Type: I think. I'm in KDE right now but I think its the same in Gnome
[01:21] <dan__> windows....
[01:21] <Chamuco> ELEMENT_OX:  using qtparted
[01:21] <stinger_au> i got a question: when running top in ubuntu it seems that 18 -20 of the cpu is spent on si (software interrupts) is this normal for ubuntu ? its a AMD duron 1.6, on my desktop AMD 4400 dual core running gentoo i have less than .3% used on si and about 99.5% when idle ??
[01:21] <MasterZen> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2157373#post2157373
[01:21] <Chamuco> ELEMENT_OX: or gpd
[01:21] <Chamuco> ELEMENT_OX: or gparted
[01:21] <Chadarius> lazrpark93: You should be able to adjust the default by making vlc the first one in the list in there
[01:21] <MotorCityMadMan> need help installing a flash player for konqueror. ?
[01:21] <ELEMENT_OX> chamco know a good dl for that???
[01:21] <MasterZen> Someone please answer this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2157373#post2157373
[01:22] <Chadarius> MotorCityMadMan: I think you might be out of luck for flash in Konquerer
[01:22] <axa-axa> Chamuco: no, even with nogl screensaver it bahaves the same
[01:22] <lazrpark93> Chadarius, thank you I will try that
[01:22] <kyle_> dan__: ok, I'll try that. thanks
[01:22] <Chamuco> from synaptic search for gparted
[01:22] <Chamuco> apply
[01:22] <Chamuco> and go play
[01:22] <Chadarius> lazrpark93: let me know if that doesn't work I'll figure out something for you
[01:23] <MotorCityMadMan> Chadarius> well, just kick me in the teeth
[01:23] <lazrpark93> Chadarius, I am having difficulty making vlc the first one in the list.
[01:23] <axa-axa> Chamuco: any Ideas ?
[01:23] <stinger_au> Any got any ideas why the SI value is so high on ubuntu ?
[01:23] <Chamuco> axa-axa:  what happens if you go to a terminal and do glxgears?
[01:23] <zerod> don't know
[01:23] <stinger_au> what si values you guys get on more or less idle system ?
[01:24] <Chadarius> MotorCityMadMan: I think there is only a flash plugin for Mozilla based browsers
[01:24] <axa-axa> Chamuco: it start well
[01:24] <cm515> how come i can't take mp3 files from a cd and play them in totem?
[01:24] <pbureau> actually the flash 9 is and works if you install it for mozilla and run opera after the install it finds it and uses it :)
[01:24] <Chadarius> lazrpark93: is there an up/down button there or something?
[01:25] <kyle_> Dan__: What would the command(s) be to use the backup xorg?
[01:25] <axa-axa> Chamuco: I must epahasize once more, that before, in my older home folder (with older conf files) everythign worked well
[01:25] <Chadarius> MotorCityMadMan: I googled konqueror flash plugin http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php
[01:25] <lazrpark93> Chadarius, there isn't, but there is an Add button and a remove button
[01:25] <spuddogg_> HELP:  right now in my house I have 4 linux boxes.  3 of them are ubuntu, 1 is knoppix.  for some reason all of them can access my shared folders except my laptop.  help please!
[01:25] <axa-axa> Chadarius: Nvidia glx drivers are not the issue
[01:25] <axa-axa> Chamuco: Nvidia glx drivers are not the issue
[01:26] <MotorCityMadMan> Chadarius> ty, having a look now
[01:26] <Chamuco> what files did you move or copy or changed?
[01:26] <Chadarius> MotorCityMadMan: No sound for that though... Firefox is your best bet for flash I think
[01:27] <Chamuco> axa-axa: what files did you move or copy or changed?
[01:27] <kyle_> What would the command(s) be to use the backup xorg?
[01:28] <axa-axa> Chamuco: I've had a disaster with reiserfs partition (the one where /home is). I've deleted and made a new ext3 parition with new empty (of config fiiles) home directory. Then, when I've logged in, I've set everything like it was before.
[01:28] <lazrpark93> Chadarius, are you familiar with gconf-editor? I am not familiar with it, but I heard it is useful from the ubuntu forums. I couldn't get any useful information there though.
[01:28] <Chadarius> kyle_: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf... this will replace xorg.conf with xorg.conf.backup... only do this if you don't want to keep anything from your current xorg.conf
[01:28] <cm515> new to ubuntu here....can't play mp3 files off a cd in the audio player
[01:29] <axa-axa> cm515: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[01:29] <axa-axa> cm515: There you will find everything you need to know to make multmedia files working
[01:30] <lazrpark93> Chadarius, I have to go thanks for your help.
[01:30] <cm515> thank you
[01:30] <Chadarius> lazrpark93: sorry man... I'm mostly a KDE guy
[01:30] <axa-axa> cm515: np
[01:30] <GaiaX11> cm515: try amarok + extra-codecs
[01:30] <cm515> is it a pretty common problem?
[01:30] <axa-axa> Chamuco: Any ideas left to try?
[01:31] <dsquare> !ubot crash
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <Chamuco> axa-axa:  well when you say you had a disaster and made a new ext3 do you mean a new install?
[01:31] <GaiaX11> cm515: It is not a problem. It is a matter of configuration :-)
[01:31] <plagerism> I am trying to use kickstart to boot via pxe/dhcp.  The image boots up fine, however when it gets to the network autoconfiguration its not recognizing the option routers and option domain-name-servers options in my dhcp configuration, however it gets an ip address.  Anyone perhaps know a solution to this??
[01:31] <axa-axa> cm515: yes if it's a new system, but it is easily fixed. The guide at address I've gave you, is a nice step by step explanation
[01:32] <rmd_> is there a way to tell synaptic/apt-get that I don't want it to remove all my xubuntu packages when i do an autoremove/autoclean?
[01:32] <cm515> well i'm using 5.10 right now, i'm upgrading to 6.10 right now i'll catch up on it after i upgrade
[01:32] <axa-axa> Chamuco: No, no, just /home partition, system is on other partition and is intact. I've just updated /etc/fstab and everything is like it was, except for this.
[01:32] <rmd_> i installed ubuntu and then aptituded the xubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <jrib> Hi everyone, I'm trying to get my internet to work on an asus p5b deluxe.  Both eth0 and eth1 don't seem to work, although network manger claims both are "connected".  I cannot 'ping www.google.com'.  Not sure how to further troubleshoot this... any suggestions?
[01:33] <rmd_> except xubuntu-desktop isn't installed anymore, as i removed a couple apps...
[01:33] <Chadarius> jrib: can you ping your own internal cable modem router?
[01:33] <axa-axa> cm515: There you will find explanation on how to make flash, wmv, java... working and some proposals of windows alternative programs.
[01:34] <dyrne> jrib: try to ping your router if you have one then try to go to the router ip. route -n should give you the ip
[01:34] <dyrne> jrib: might be dns
[01:34] <jrib> Chadarius: is there a standard ip for me to try?  Also please note that I have to disconnect here to try the other computer since I don't have a router
[01:34] <cm515> cool man, thanks for the knowledge
[01:34] <frogzoo_> jrib: does ifconfig show either eth0 or eth1?
[01:34] <cm515> i'm a total noob
[01:34] <jrib> frogzoo_: shows both
[01:34] <axa-axa> cm515: You dont have to read it all, just pick the subject
[01:34] <frogzoo_> jrib: but no ip addresses?
[01:34] <axa-axa> cm515: youre welcome
[01:34] <Chadarius> jrib: see dyrne's post above. type "route -n" to see your router IP
[01:35] <Chamuco> well maybe a drastic idea but you could move personal files to a partition and then install again without formating the partition w/ your files kinda last resort but only thing Ican think of for my level of expertise which is not much
[01:35] <jrib> frogzoo_: ah yes, I didn't even notice, but I do have an ip address assigned
[01:35] <frogzoo_> jrib: can you ping the router?
[01:35] <Chamuco> axa-axa:  and when installing you can set that partition to your /home
[01:35] <Dante123> Hi all.....here is the scoop.....I have a GE Force pci graphics card....and a built in internal one........I couldn't install Ubuntu using the PCI one but I could using the integrated one.....now I want to edit the configuration file so that it uses the GE Force pci card......do I edit the xorg.conf file?
[01:36] <axa-axa> Chamuco: er... no, after all the hasle I've been through of setting things like they were before, that is not an option, only to make screensaver working.
[01:36] <Ireclan> I've got an apparent bug in the update manager that I'm VERY unhappy about...
[01:36] <jrib> frogzoo_: no router, dyrne, Chadarius: I will try your suggestions now.  I need to disconnect here and will be back shortly
[01:36] <Chadarius> Dante123: You probably don't have to edit it. It should use the same driver
[01:36] <bruenig> Ireclan, doubt it is "in the update manager"
[01:36] <axa-axa> Chamuco: But thank you for your effort.
[01:36] <Chamuco> yeah to much effort for a ss
[01:37] <dsquare> how do i install the mesa package please?
[01:37] <Chadarius> Dante123: Have you installed the Nvidia binary driver yet or are you just using the built in "nv" driver?
[01:37] <axa-axa> Chadarius: thanks for your time. Bye.
[01:37] <dyrne> Dante123: i could be wrong but i thought with agp plugged in and enabled in bios you cant see pci slot cards. i have no direct experience with that though. im sure someone will correct me:)
[01:37] <Ireclan> bruenig, shall I describe the bug?
[01:38] <bruenig> Ireclan, I was thinking you would, but ball is ultimately in your court
[01:38] <adrien> bonjours
[01:38] <dyrne> Dante123: er use pci driver
[01:38] <Dante123> Chadarius.....i'm sorry to say that I believe I do need to edit it ....since I had to originally in order to get it to work with the ge force card......the itegrated one is Intel.....and I believe the geforce one is nvidia  (I think).....I shouldn't have to ask this twice....since I fixed it once...but I can't remember what I did.....oh yeah...this is a el cheapo Dell with no agp (they left it out) it is a Dimension 2400
[01:38] <bruenig> !info mesa-utils
[01:38] <ubotu> mesa-utils: Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities. In component main, is extra. Version 6.3.2-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 88 kB
[01:38] <adrien> comment je peux instaler beryl svp
[01:38] <Chadarius> Dante123: Ah OK yeah you will have to edit your xconf.org then
[01:38] <frogzoo_> !fr | adrien
[01:38] <ubotu> adrien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:38] <bruenig> !fr
[01:38] <bruenig> !beryl
[01:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:39] <adrien> je conais pas trop ubuntu
[01:39] <Ireclan> Well, you know how it shows you a list of the updates so you can select which ones you want to install?
[01:39] <adrien> a surement tromp de tchat
[01:39] <frogzoo_> adrien: #ubuntu-effects aussi
[01:39] <bruenig> !enter
[01:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:39] <Dante123> I had to reinstall Ubuntu because my kids screwed it up.....found out what root was....and well....you can just imagine what they did....
[01:39] <frogzoo_> Dante123: kids aren't supposed to have access to root - give them their own account
[01:40] <Chadarius> Dante123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaPCI?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[01:40] <raxip> sup
[01:40] <frogzoo_> Dante123: without admin rights
[01:40] <k1piee> hey
[01:40] <Chadarius> Dante123: try that out and see how it goes
[01:40] <Dante123> okay Chadarius....so do I change the Intel line to nv and then just put the right pci code in there...
[01:40] <Chadarius> Dante123: Yeah pretty much
[01:41] <Chadarius> Dante123: If you don't like vim use "nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit it
[01:42] <Dante123> yeah.....well what happened is i installed ubuntu....and never got around to adding their user.....they had watched me on my own machine...and well.....figured out the root password.....my fault....but then again.....there was no real harm other logging in problems and...they went nuts adding applications untile they filled up the hard drive
[01:42] <k1piee> good
[01:42] <Chadarius> Dante123: I like nano best but make sure to use the -w with nano
[01:42] <raxip> dunno
[01:42] <Dante123> ok thanks
[01:42] <elias_> Do I have to have windows installed to use wine?
[01:42] <Ireclan> Well, my update manager isn't showing all of the updates! Yet it still tries to add them to the list of those I want to download! And since the updates are on the list, I can't deselect them. The updates total some 37 MB.  I'm on dial-up for cryin' out loud! I can't download 37 MB!
[01:42] <LjL> elias_: no
[01:42] <Dante123> just did fresh install.....do I need to reboot before editing the xorg.conf file?
[01:42] <LjL> !virtualizers > elias_    (elias_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:42] <pbureau> Dante make time to make the root account 64 bot alphanumerical password :) should keep him guessing for at least a day
[01:42] <mattycoze> elias no, wine is for linux or unix desktops
[01:43] <Chadarius> elias_: Nope! that is the best part about it. You don't have pay for a windows license then
[01:43] <bruenig> Dante123, you need to boot into the hard drive install if you are still on the cd
[01:43] <Chadarius> Dante123: Yeah... what bruenig said
[01:43] <bruenig> Ireclan, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:43] <Dante123> thanks all
[01:44] <pbureau> Ireclan, lol 37mb, when I did a fresh install.. it was 87MB ..
[01:44] <kekko_> if i cp a ./file in a directory like /usr/bin which is present in my $PATH do i need to refresh $PATH in order to get that command universally recognised ?
[01:44] <bruenig> On dapper, I once had 130 MB on a fresh install
[01:44] <bashi> hello
[01:44] <cstextiles>  How can I assign rights to the menu in the Applications menu according to the users in Ubuntu?
[01:44] <kekko_> hi all btw
[01:45] <pbureau> bruenig, wow... thank god for high speed Inet (well for me anyways 3MB wireless ISP)
[01:45] <frogzoo_> hmmzzz - if apt would dump a list of files needed to be upgraded & you could then d/l that list using say wget to a usb ...hmmm
[01:45] <dreamerdude> Anyone know C++ or know what server i would find a C++ channel on?
[01:45] <pbureau> kekko_, try using " updatedb &"
[01:45] <bashi> how do i download java runtime enviroment? anybody
[01:45] <bruenig> kekko_, good question, you could move it and then see,  and if it doesn't open a fresh terminal
[01:45] <frogzoo_> !java |bash
[01:45] <ubotu> bash: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:45] <bruenig> bashi, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:45] <jvai> any1 uses "aptoncd"? it makes a backup of all the apps u installed thru synaptic.. any1?
[01:46] <bruenig> or java6
[01:46] <kekko_> bruening: done that, not working
[01:46] <rmd_> i installed ubuntu, but installed xubuntu-desktop.  i erased a couple packages that came with it and now when i "aptitude autoremove" it threatens to remove all my other xubuntu packages.  is there a way I can tell it not to do this when i do an autoremove?
[01:46] <bruenig> kekko_, both of them?
[01:47] <bruenig> rmd_, don't do the autoremove, just remove the packages you want specifically
[01:47] <bashi> thanks ill try
[01:47] <rmd_> bruenig: thanks for replying, but that's not an answer to my question.  i'd like to know if there is a way to mark the packages, or perhaps some other process?
[01:47] <kekko_> pbureau bruenig : the updatedb is taking a while
[01:48] <pbureau> kekko_, yep it will take  1-5 mins.... dont worry about it... just wait until the drive stops.
[01:48] <Filibuster> Anyone know why zeroconf mdns would stop working randomly?
[01:48] <cstextiles> kekko_: You can try this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Custom_JAVA
[01:48] <Filibuster> zeroconf loads for my wired connection, but not for my wireless.  it used to work in both.  :-(
[01:48] <kekko_> pbureau bruenig : the updatedb worked . Thanks guys
[01:48] <bashi> it didn't work
[01:49] <rmd_> bruenig: as do i.
[01:49] <bruenig> well aptitude autoremove is not apt-get
[01:49] <bashi> what now?
[01:49] <kekko_> cstextiles: thanks . updatedb worked perfectly
[01:49] <Ireclan> bruenig: what good does that do me? I'm on dial-up, It stands to reason that if 37 MB is a problem, 157 MB will be too...
[01:49] <jexdawg> is there a site where i can get gnome/ubuntu panel applets? i specifically want to control rhythmbox through a panel... possible?
[01:49] <rmd_> bruenig: actually "apt-get autoremove" and "aptitude autoremove" do the exact same thing.
[01:50] <cstextiles> How can I assign rights to the menu in the Applications menu according to the users in Ubuntu?
[01:50] <Dante123> Chadarius......you there?
[01:50] <bashi> bruenig it didnt work
[01:50] <paul_ubuntu> hey guys.. I'm still having the problem with ubuntu install.. anyone exprienced in this?
[01:50] <bruenig> bashi, you need to have your repos enabled, what version of ubuntu are you using and have you ever messed with your repos
[01:50] <bruenig> rmd_, they achieve the same end, but do they do the exact same thing
[01:51] <bashi> im using 5.04 and no
[01:51] <bruenig> oh wow
[01:51] <bashi> not that i know of at least
[01:51] <bruenig> is 5.04 even supported anymore
[01:51] <cstextiles> bashi: Just try to do from the Synaptic Package Manager but if at last it somehow does not works then try this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Custom_JAVA
[01:51] <rmd_> bruenig: the point is rather moot, i suppose.  i'd still like to know if there is a way to accomplish this
[01:51] <bashi> its an old machine
[01:52] <frogduster> Anyone familiar enough with zeroconf that you might be able to give me a  hand figuring out why it's not working?
[01:52] <bruenig> well I mean if it didn't do the exact same thing, it could very easily be different processes
[01:52] <paul_ubuntu> my installation quits while trying to setup the gdm x-session I guess... judging by the error message..
[01:52] <cstextiles> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Custom_JAVA
[01:52] <rmd_> bruenig: it doesn't matter.
[01:53] <Dante123> okay all.....I am in the xorg.conf file....and I changed it from Intel to "nv"....but I am not sure what to put for PCI......the BusID for the intel i810 was PCI:0:2:0.......what should I put for the GE Force pci card?  Any ideas?
[01:53] <rmd_> bruenig: i just want to know if i can avoid this issue in the future
[01:53] <bashi> how do i do it?
[01:53] <bruenig> bashi, I can't be sure on 5.04
[01:53] <Ireclan> Bruenig?
[01:53] <Dante123> or just leave it the same???
[01:53] <bruenig> Ireclan, do that command
[01:53] <cstextiles> bashi: Watch out the website I gave
[01:53] <Crescendo> Can Nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy coexist peacefully?  (Two cards)
[01:53] <cstextiles> How can I assign rights to the menu in the Applications menu according to the users in Ubuntu?
[01:54] <jrib> dyrne, frogzoo_: ok so I don't think route -n  gave me an ip for my cable modem (I don't have a router).  route -n listed 169.254.0.0 and 0.0.0.0, I tried to ping both anyway and it failed.  I also tried to ping my own ip and that works.  But pinging the ip I got for www.google.com didn't work
[01:54] <Dante123> Somehow I think when i did this before it was 0:1:0...but not sure
[01:54] <Ireclan> Bruenig: I did. How was it supposed to help me?
[01:54] <bashi> ok thanks anyway i wouldnt be using it exept this is more of a hobby computer and its pretty old its not my main
[01:54] <paul_ubuntu> if anyone can help, please pm me :)
[01:54] <bruenig> Ireclan, well just sudo apt-get install whatever you want from those
[01:55] <bashi> cstextiles: why .what does it do?
[01:55] <jexdawg> hey - is it possible to control rhythmbox through a panel? like, play-pause and next/previous track buttons in a panel?
[01:55] <bashi> why?
[01:55] <cstextiles> You have to install the java manually without Ubuntu Packages and it shows the procedure
[01:56] <cstextiles> How can I hide menu in the Applications menu according to the users in Ubuntu?
[01:56] <bruenig> rmd_, why did you remove xubuntu-desktop?
[01:56] <bruenig> I mean if you keep that on, none of this should come in to play
[01:56] <bashi> cya thanks
[01:57] <bashi> bye thank for the help
[01:57] <Dante123> is there a way to see what is detected on pci?
[01:58] <jrib> Dante123: lspci ?
[01:58] <Eldorian> Hey, new to Ubuntu (and Linux for that matter) was curious if anyone ever ran into this: When I created my cd and I try to load from it... absolutely nothing happens... it acts like it's going to load the bar moves across the screen... and then it stops and locks up all together. I can't even install from it. Any thoughts?
[01:58] <Dante123> trying to figure out pci BusID for GE MX4000 pci card
[01:58] <frogzoo_> jrib: have you run pppoeconf ?
[01:58] <Dante123> so i can edit xorg.conf correctly
[01:58] <bruenig> !alternate | Eldorian
[01:58] <ubotu> Eldorian: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:58] <SpacePuppy> Dante123: read jrib's answer
[01:59] <cstextiles> How can I assign rights to the menu in the Applications menu according to the users in Ubuntu?
[01:59] <jrib> frogzoo_: this is a cable modem
[01:59] <Dante123> okay...trying that now....thanks
[01:59] <bashi> hello
[01:59] <jrib> frogzoo_: does pppoeconf still work in that case?
[01:59] <[Ayanami] > Hi, I have someone who's using Ubuntu for the first time on AIM... Is there a quick reference I can point him at? He's new enough he thinks Ubuntu is "linux."
[01:59] <frogzoo_> jrib: if it can find a pppoe server or not it will say
[01:59] <[Ayanami] > As in, its all Linux.
[02:00] <bruenig> ubuntuguide.com
[02:00] <bruenig> ubuntuforums.org
[02:00] <IdleOne> [Ayanami] , wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <bruenig> ubuntuguide.org*
[02:00] <jrib> frogzoo_: k, I'll give that a try.  Anything else?  Just throw out any ideas you have, I don't mind trying a lot of stuff but switching back and forth is annoying.  Thank you for your help btw
[02:00] <Chamuco> how can I clone a partition
[02:01] <[Ayanami] > Ubuntuguide.org fails to resolve, for future reference.
[02:01] <bruenig> Chamuco, dd
[02:01] <bruenig> it certainly does not
[02:01] <[Ayanami] > Thanks, IdleOne and bruenig.
[02:01] <bashi> anybody here runnin ubuntu 5.04?
[02:01] <jrib> [Ayanami] : help.ubutnu.com, also the help menu
[02:01] <Dante123> okay.......so do the first numbers in the line that reads.....01:04.0 VGA Compatible controller:  nVidia Corporations NV18 (blah blah) tell me the BusID?
[02:01] <bruenig> ubuntuguide.org resolves quite well
[02:01] <[Ayanami] > There we are, it was still loading .com...
[02:01] <bruenig> oh
[02:02] <Keitaru> Does ubuntu come with irc?
[02:02] <bruenig> Keitaru, gaim can be an irc client
[02:02] <robline_> gaim or get x-chat
[02:02] <jrib> Keitaru: gaim connects to irc
[02:02] <Keitaru> I tried to get x-chat but it says there is a IRC client that exist on my system already
[02:03] <Agrajag> irssi?
[02:03] <SmartMan> guys thir is any messenger can contact (msn yahoo ...etc ) multi messenger but for ubuntu 6.10
[02:03] <IdleOne> Keitaru, sudo aptitude install xchat-gnome or xchat-common
[02:03] <bruenig> SmartMan, gaim
[02:03] <Chamuco> bruenig: man dd says dd - convert and copy a file
[02:03] <robline_> not a fan of irssi, but some are
[02:03] <bruenig> not xchat-gnome, that is awful
[02:03] <Dante123> okay.......so do the first numbers in the line that reads.....01:04.0 VGA Compatible controller: nVidia Corporations NV18 (blah blah) tell me the BusID?
[02:03] <Keitaru> lol
[02:03] <SmartMan> thanks :)
[02:03] <Cat2> sometimes it just turns out that way
[02:03] <jrib> Keitaru: the "xchat" package should give you the "good" xchat
[02:03] <[Ayanami] > xchat-gnome plz.
[02:04] <cstextiles> How can I assign rights to the menu in the Applications menu according to the users in Ubuntu?
[02:04] <IdleOne> jrib, xchat package gives xchat-gnome iirc
[02:04] <gdb> IdleOne: no
[02:04] <Keitaru> ok thanks everyone
[02:04] <jtmoney> i have all the repositories enabled on two machines... on my i386 install, i can "sudo apt-get install ivtv-source" without a problem, but on my amd64 box, i cannot... what gives?
[02:04] <Chamuco> anyone how do I clone a partition
[02:04] <gdb> IdleOne: apt-cache search xchat and be enlightened
[02:04] <Keitaru> lol!
[02:05] <jrib> cstextiles: I don't know if this is what you want, but have you looked into sabayon?
[02:05] <IdleOne> gdb, I dont need to be enlightened and I dont need your attitude either thanks :)
[02:05] <gdb> IdleOne: Then work on being right, thanks!
[02:05] <IdleOne> or sarcasism
[02:05] <IdleOne> i did say iirc
[02:05] <IdleOne> apperently I didnt recall correctly
[02:06] <IdleOne> sue me :P
[02:06] <cstextiles> jrib: No What is that
[02:06] <gdb> lol
[02:06] <ankan_> hi....does anyone know why my xmms player hangs saying - Connecting to 64.236... whenever i try to tune to a particular station in streamtuner
[02:07] <IdleOne> ankan_, maybe that station is down?
[02:07] <jrib> cstextiles: apt-cache show sabayon, also google
[02:08] <ankan_> IdleOne: i have tried most hit stations under shoutcast and its doin the same
[02:09] <rmd_> i installed ubuntu, but installed xubuntu-desktop.  i erased a couple packages that came with it and now when i "aptitude autoremove" it threatens to remove all my other xubuntu packages.  is there a way I can tell it not to do this when i do an autoremove?
[02:10] <bashi> how do i download java runtime? ive tried alot of different ways and my browser still wont load alot of things it says:aditional plugins required.
[02:11] <IdleOne> bashi, sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[02:11] <mjg> I just upgraded to Edgy from Dapper and my wireless nic (Netgear MA311) is no longer available in Network Settings Dialog. Any ideas?
[02:11] <ubinewbee> Hi - I installed 6.10 on a dell Cpx (ancient).  Trying to get dlink dwl-650 going.  I see it in graphical device manager but not under lspci...any suggestions?  Should I follow the ndiswrapper route?
[02:11] <bashi> ill try
[02:11] <cstextiles> bashi: Did you watch out the website doc.gwos.org/index.php/Custom_JAVA?
[02:12] <Differ> everybody's joining at once.
[02:12] <bashi> i tried it and it didnt work
[02:12] <Differ> installfest going on somewhere?
[02:12] <rmd_> exit
[02:12] <rmd_> akk
[02:12] <Potti> whats a good program to burn iso's
[02:12] <Potti> ?
[02:12] <IdleOne> Potti, gnomebaker K3B cdrecord
[02:12] <miki_> try brasero
[02:13] <brussel_> so what's one got to do to make phpdocumentor work on ubuntu, I'm running out of creatures to sacrifice.
[02:13] <IdleOne> bashi, have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[02:13] <frogduster> Rabbits!  Have you tried rabbits?
[02:13] <IdleOne> Frogs!!!!^^^
[02:13] <frogduster> Hey..
[02:13] <IdleOne> lmao
[02:13] <frogduster> :-D
[02:13] <bashi> i think it worked! let me check
[02:13] <brussel_> Rabbits, frogs, virgins, nothing's left...
[02:13] <frogduster> Sheesh.
[02:14] <ubinewbee> Any suggestions about the dwl-650 issue?  Or is there better distro for old dell laptop like Cpx?
[02:14] <frogduster> ..went to far as to sacrifice a virgin, eh?
[02:14] <IdleOne> !ohmy
[02:14] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:14] <brussel_> I've even been doing ghosts
[02:14] <MECU> hi, I just installed ubuntu, install went okay, went to boot, get the boot screen and it looks okay and then it just goes black, for 5 minutes... reboot and try again and same thing, is it my video driver not compatible with my video card? I have an ATI 9800pro. Will booting in "safe" mode (I can't remember the exact name it gives, sorry) allow me to install the right drivers?
[02:14] <bashi> it didnt work
[02:14] <IdleOne> bashi, have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[02:14] <Potti> i found cd/dvd writer gnomebaker
[02:15] <IdleOne> Potti, that works good for me
[02:15] <Potti> to burn iso's as ewll
[02:15] <Potti> ?
[02:15] <IdleOne> yup
[02:15] <Potti> awesome thanks alot
[02:15] <IdleOne> Potti, sudo aptitude install gnomebaker
[02:15] <bashi> i duno
[02:15] <guspad> i think that the last kernel update broke the fglrx module ?
[02:15] <IdleOne> !universe | bashi
[02:15] <ubotu> bashi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:15] <Potti> i got it alreddi it was in teh add/remove thign
[02:15] <Differ> MECU:won't work, see http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9800/radeon9800pro/specs.html
[02:15] <Potti> thanks anyway broo
[02:16] <guspad> when i try module-assistant build fglrx, it fails
[02:16] <frogduster> tried sudo pear install phpdocumentor?
[02:16] <IdleOne> bashi,  follow the link ubotu just gave you to enable universe and multiverse
[02:16] <IdleOne> Potti, np and cool
[02:16] <Dante123> Hi All, having some troubles here.....I want to use a Chaintech GE Force MX 4000 on this older Dell instead of the integrated video card.....what do I need to do.......I know I will need to edit xorg.conf.....is there anything else I need to install/download?
[02:16] <bashi> wich one?
[02:16] <SmartMan> guys mp3 dosen't work
[02:16] <frogduster> brussel_?
[02:16] <IdleOne> bashi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[02:16] <MECU> Differ: but they have http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html
[02:17] <IdleOne> !mp3 | SmartMan
[02:17] <ubotu> SmartMan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <brussel_> frogduster: oh, thanks for the wakeup
[02:17] <frogduster> np.
[02:17] <frogduster> :-)
[02:17] <bashi> im tryin it hold on a sec
[02:17] <cstextiles> !sabayon
[02:17] <ubotu> sabayon: system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 1868 kB
[02:17] <Differ> MECU: try it out.
[02:17] <Differ> it might work.
[02:17] <MECU> k
[02:18] <ubinewbee> Hi - I installed 6.10 on a dell Cpx (ancient).  Trying to get dlink dwl-650 wifi card going.  I see it in graphical device manager but not under lspci...any suggestions?  Should I follow the ndiswrapper route?
[02:18] <brussel_> frogduster, with all the messages floating by I don't look unless I hear my beep.
[02:18] <bashi> what do i have to do to make it work its getting really annoying
[02:18] <SmartMan> thanks
[02:18] <frogduster> brussel_, may have to do sudo apt-get install php-pear first..
[02:18] <IdleOne> bashi, you need to actually ( like for real for real ) read the site and enable universe and multiverse repos
[02:18] <MECU> Differ: that pages says "32-Bit packages must be installed for 64-Bit Linux drivers to install or work." but I thought I just read that ubuntu 64 won't run 32-bit?
[02:18] <bashi> ok
[02:19] <IdleOne> bashi, then and only then will you be able to do anything you want to do with ubuntu :)
[02:19] <Luis07> hello! I own a nVidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400, should I install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[02:19] <bashi> ok thanks
[02:19] <IdleOne> !nvidia
[02:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:20] <Luis07> IdleOne, I've seen that page, but it doesn't provide the help I need... about which driver to install
[02:20] <Differ> MECU, see the post two above.
[02:20] <IdleOne> Luis07, sorry dont know what to tell you :/
[02:20] <IdleOne> Luis07, stick around someone will be able to help soon
[02:21] <Luis07> IdleOne, I've installed the nvidia-glx... but I can't see the nvidia logo on boot.. something must be wrong, yes?
[02:21] <dan__> what is wrong?
[02:21] <Potti> ok i guess burning it wasnt the full issue i need to know how i can made the iso
[02:21] <Potti> what can i use
[02:21] <IdleOne> Potti, make the iso? what iso?
[02:21] <dan__> to make an iso rub two sticks together very rapidly
[02:21] <Differ> dan__: lol.
[02:22] <Potti> i d/ld tiny2003 its an xp instalion but i need to make it into an iso and then burn it
[02:22] <Potti> i think
[02:22] <dan__> jsut google iso maker
[02:23] <quaal> where do i go to setup/configure ssh clients ?
[02:23] <dan__> but im sure u can use nero
[02:23] <quaal> so people can connect through ssh
[02:23] <dan__> i used somehting called magic iso'
[02:23] <Differ> with Wine?
[02:23] <IdleOne> !windows
[02:23] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:23] <dan__> rel work on wikipedia....ROFL
[02:23] <sparr> why doesnt ubuntu have 'moving target' repository names like debian's stable/testing/unstable?  having to modify my sources every 6 months to keep up to date is hella annoying
[02:23] <quaal> aaahhahha
[02:23] <quaal> awesome
[02:24] <jvai> rotfl!! @ ubotu
[02:24] <dan__> why don't u submit a formal complaint to Mr. Ubuntu
[02:24] <kitche> sparr: why not just use update-manager?
[02:24] <dan__> kitche that would be to easy
[02:24] <Luis07> how can I confirm I have 3d acceleration working? I have no 3d games or stuff here to test, just the driver
[02:24] <cstextiles> !daemontools
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daemontools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <dan__> the isa  cmd Luis
[02:25] <brussel_> frogduster: I get a Fatal error when I try to install phpdocumentor, something about a memory size of 8388608 bytes being exhausted.
[02:25] <cstextiles> dan__: Use Daemon Tools
[02:25] <dan__> for what?
[02:25] <cstextiles> dan__: for CD writing as it is free
[02:25] <Differ> Free or free?
[02:25] <Chamuco> Luis07 glxgears
[02:25] <dan__> im aware
[02:26] <sparr> kitche: ill try it
[02:26] <enlight> I'm trying to do a "sudo apt-get source apache2"... but it gives me an error:
[02:26] <enlight> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/nz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-updates_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[02:26] <Luis07> Chamuco, appears to be OK then, it's smooth
[02:26] <Chamuco> alright
[02:27] <iratik> Alright - on a random reobot (with the reboot command) - after grub it booted into a blue screen testing my memory - i shut it off half way and it came back again
[02:27] <sparr> kitche: update-manager doesnt seem to be relevant
[02:27] <Sanne> Luis07: you might need legacy nvidia drivers. To confirm, read the binary driver age in the wiki for nvidia, in seciotn "Install and activate drivers" point 4 there's a link to help you find out. Wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:27] <iratik> am i royally screwed ?
[02:27] <Chamuco> Luis07 have u ever tried armagetron
[02:27] <IdleOne> !easysource | enlight seems your sources.list is buggered
[02:27] <ubotu> enlight seems your sources.list is buggered: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:27] <IdleOne> !upgrade | sparr
[02:27] <ubotu> sparr: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:27] <Luis07> Chamuco, never tried
[02:27] <Toma-> iratik: sounds like you have memcheck running?
[02:27] <enlight> ubotu: thanks, I'll try that.
[02:27] <dan__> i cant get gfire to work :(
[02:27] <sparr> IdleOne: did you even read my question?  didnt think so.
[02:27] <iratik> Toma-: thats what it says at the top
[02:28] <Chamuco> Luis07 is very cool game sort of tron
[02:28] <iratik> Toma-: why is it running ?
[02:28] <Toma-> iratik: you might have a serious problem with your ram
[02:28] <enlight> lol.
[02:28] <IdleOne> :/
[02:28] <Toma-> iratik: you could always use synaptic to remove it tho
[02:28] <Chamuco> look in add remove
[02:28] <iratik> Toma-: I've been at work for 9 hours and am really tired - i've still got another hour or two more of work to do
[02:28] <enlight> IdleOne: thank you then :)
[02:28] <Luis07> the ubuntu wiki for nvidia drivers says "if you have a generic kernel image, the X will not work"... I have a generic kernel image! now what?!
[02:28] <Keitaru> how do you edit the source.list
[02:28] <iratik> Toma-: its on a server hosting 3 websites and 5 databases - dns ... hosting server
[02:28] <Keitaru> its read-only
[02:28] <rylan> ok, im working on day four of having no sound. so far, i get the startup noise, i have about 30 seconds of highpitched whine accompanied by my music and now nothing again. any ideas?
[02:29] <Toma-> iratik: so im guessing lots of ram modules?
[02:29] <Luis07> Chamuco, I see, tron is cool, so I might try it ;)
[02:29] <jellobean> Dilemma: I am trying to install edgy using a live CD, i insert the CD and it boots up fine, I pass the language and identify keyboard stage, but when i get to mount the CD-ROM it says "No common CD-drive detected" (my bios reads my drive), does anyone have a similar problem, or know how to go around this...I read it is a problem with people that have SATA HD's
[02:29] <iratik> i mean... how do I get back to work!
[02:29] <Chamuco> Keitaru: do alt-f2
[02:29] <Keitaru> mk
[02:29] <cstextiles> OMGWindowsrul3z: I don't know the difference between free and Free?
[02:29] <Differ> Free as in open source.
[02:30] <Differ> free as in cost-free.
[02:30] <Toma-> Theres freeware and GPL.
[02:30] <Toma-> GPL > Freeware
[02:30] <cstextiles> I think it is free not Free
[02:30] <jrib> !free | cstextiles
[02:30] <ubotu> cstextiles: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[02:30] <iratik> this is the worst day of troubleshooting i've ever had in my LIFE - and its just one thing after another - not any particular thing's fault - but - nothing would work!
[02:30] <iratik> anybody know how to get out of memcheck and boot regular ?
[02:30] <Chamuco> Keitaru: then type gksudo nautilus, this will open a file window go to /etc/apt right click and edit
[02:30] <quaal> does anyone log into ubuntu remotely
[02:30] <Toma-> iratik: i told you, remove memcheck and youll be ok.
[02:30] <Sanne> Luis07: i read that as that you need to first install the correct linux-restricted-modules for your kernel image.
[02:30] <iratik> how?
[02:30] <Toma-> iratik: HOPEFULLY.
[02:31] <iratik> i can't remove it if i can't boot into something !?
[02:31] <cstextiles> jrib: Ya I got that
[02:31] <Toma-> iratik: Ahh. so you cant even boot without memcheck running?
[02:31] <sparr> kitche: update-manager seems similar to kubuntu adept_updater
[02:31] <rylan> ok, im working on day four of having no sound. so far, i get the startup noise, i have about 30 seconds of highpitched whine accompanied by my music and now nothing again. any ideas?
[02:31] <iratik> that's what i said - it goes into it right after grub
[02:31] <sparr> kitche: how do i make it automatically change my sources?
[02:32] <Toma-> iratik: sorry, you said "randomly" the first post
[02:32] <kitche> sparr: when a new version of ubuntu comes out it will tell you
[02:32] <sparr> kitche: and then?
[02:32] <Toma-> iratik: ok, will select soemthing different from the grub menu... or does that get you into memcheck too?
[02:32] <sparr> kitche: also, i dont want "when it comes out", i want development versions
[02:32] <iratik> should i interrupt it again ?
[02:33] <Toma-> iratik: reboot the computer, and select something else from grub
[02:33] <Toma-> yeh its just a scanning program
[02:33] <kitche> sparr: then just eidt your source.lst to say feisty
[02:33] <jvai> rylan, maybe an "acpi" issue? u may have to edit the boot menu on boot... i forgot how to do it, i had to when i was on hoary
[02:33] <iratik> i honestly just wanna get this freaking horrible miserable day over with and go home - i've never had so much bad luck with ubuntu in one day
[02:33] <MECU> Differ: recovery mode was useless
[02:33] <sparr> kitche: already did.  and 6 months from now i have to do it again.  and again 6 months after that.  and so on and so forth.  annoying.
[02:34] <Toma-> iratik: sounds like you tried to install memcheck and you somehow hosed your grub config :)
[02:34] <Differ> MECU: did you see my message above?
[02:34] <enlight> Ah crap, updating the source list didn't fix my problem.
[02:34] <rylan> jvai, so, what should i do
[02:35] <MECU> um, no?
[02:35] <iratik> Toma-> Oh happy day ... (oh happy day) - ...
[02:35] <Differ> MECU: ah, nvm.
[02:35] <Toma-> iratik: have you got any rescue disks or even the ubuntu install disk?
[02:36] <iratik> the only option available is memtest - wtF!!!!!!!!!
[02:36] <iratik> i'm going to go nuts ... but yes i do have an ubuntu install disk for this version next to me
[02:36] <Differ> MECU:well, I can't answer your problem.
[02:36] <Differ> Sorry.
[02:36] <MECU> it's okay
[02:36] <Toma-> iratik: yikes! well do you know how to get your grub menu.lst back to working order?
[02:37] <iratik> no
[02:37] <rylan> ok, im working on day four of having no sound. so far, i get the startup noise, i have about 30 seconds of highpitched whine accompanied by my music and now nothing again. any ideas?
[02:37] <jvai> rylan.. this is 1 link i found - http://dramor.blogspot.com/2004/10/ubuntu-dell-d600-and-some-acpi.html it may or may not work
[02:37] <iratik> i don't know what happened to it
[02:37] <userlinux> sweet
[02:37] <Toma-> ok. are you running the latest kernel for ubuntu?
[02:37] <rylan> jvai, thanks
[02:37] <iratik> i think i tried doing a dist-upgrade 4 hours ago
[02:38] <iratik> i've been at this since -11! hours ago
[02:38] <Toma-> iratik: ....a dist-upgrade to what?
[02:38] <iratik> i don't know
[02:38] <Toma-> why on earth would you do that!?
[02:38] <iratik> apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade .... so on
[02:38] <Toma-> thats madness.
[02:39] <ralphr_> Hi I'm using lvm and on boot my network is not configured. I see an error that it cannot create the /var/run directory. However the /var/run directory is there. Any help?
[02:39] <r00723r0> hi, i'm having issues with ubuntu
[02:39] <Toma-> iratik: ok, heres the plan. ill copy a chunk of my grub menu.lst for you, you add that to your menu.lst, and add whatever kernel version you have into it.
[02:39] <r00723r0> specifically, it won't let me configure my wireless card
[02:39] <Keitaru> wow xchat looks so much different than mirc
[02:39] <iKitchu> hi fellas!!! i'm trying to get Xubuntu installed on an old iMac G3 400Mhz with 256Mb of ram (64 shared with video) and a 15Gb HD... so I guess it should be good enough to run it... but still when I get past the loooong splash screen it just turns black and nothing happens... could it be the video resolution? how could I change the installation settings (or boot settings) ????
[02:40] <rylan> ok, im working on day four of having no sound. so far, i get the startup noise, i have about 30 seconds of highpitched whine accompanied by my music and now nothing again. any ideas?
[02:40] <Toma-> Keitaru: you get used to it :)
[02:40] <raxip> Hello
[02:40] <jvai> rylan from ubuntu launchpad - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/48556
[02:40] <r00723r0> hi, i'm having issues with ubuntu - specifically, it won't let me configure my wireless card
[02:41] <vorwarts> i am trying to remove phpmyadmin but nothing seems to do it:
[02:41] <vorwarts> root@cedacosur:~# dpkg --remove --force-depends --force-remove-reinstreq phpmyadmin
[02:41] <iratik> Toma-: oh god
[02:41] <vorwarts> (Leyendo la base de datos ...
[02:41] <Keitaru> cool toma your text was in red
[02:41] <vorwarts> 29475 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.)
[02:41] <vorwarts> Desinstalando phpmyadmin ...
[02:41] <vorwarts> /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[02:41] <vorwarts> dpkg: error al procesar phpmyadmin (--remove):
[02:41] <vorwarts>  el subproceso pre-removal script devolvi el cdigo de salida de error 127
[02:41] <vorwarts> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[02:41] <vorwarts>  phpmyadmin
[02:41] <Keitaru> stood out
[02:41] <iratik> alright ... so what! -- i wish i knew how grub worked ... do i need to boot of the install disk to a terminal?
[02:41] <Toma-> Keitaru: thats because i said your name. you can type the first couple letters of someone name and hit tab and itll finish it for you
[02:41] <Toma-> iratik: yep.
[02:42] <Toma-> get into rescue mode/terminal
[02:42] <linux_kid> vorwarts: English
[02:42] <nalioth> !paste
[02:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:42] <r00723r0> anyone have any advice?
[02:42] <Keitaru> ohh thats awesome
[02:42] <retrograde> hi. im trying to install ubuntu 6.10 from a live CD but the partitioner wont recognise either my master or my slave drive. any advice how to get it to find them?
[02:43] <vorwarts> linux_kid: no matter the error verbose locale, the hassle is readable :(
[02:43] <linux_kid> vorwarts, good point :)
[02:43] <Toma-> iratik: heres my default option. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5863/ You MUST change the UUID code and possible the "root" location and possibly the filenames of kernel and initrd
[02:43] <Toma-> iratik: sounds like youre not backing up your servers!
[02:43] <Toma-> tsk tsk
[02:43] <linux_kid> r00723r0, what is your device?
[02:43] <jvai> question, does any1 fel the squid proxy cache for a single box is a compliment filter to iptables?
[02:43] <r00723r0> linux_kid, ra0
[02:43] <raxip> unsure
[02:44] <linux_kid> r00723r0, sorry, no i don't
[02:44] <r00723r0> hmm ok
[02:44] <iratik> Toma-: there are backups
[02:45] <iratik> for the most important data
[02:45] <Toma-> of the /boot folder?
[02:45] <rylan> jvai, doesnt look like anything im having problems with, nothing locks up, everything else is fine. just no sound, i do get sound on startup, that african music-y thing, and now nothing.
[02:45] <iratik> thats system stuff
[02:45] <Toma-> iratik: if you have backups of /boot youre in luck...
[02:45] <iratik> we don't back that up - we have mirror sites if our system goes down
[02:45] <Toma-> sigh.
[02:45] <iratik> well.. there is an option on this disk that lets you 'Reinstall GRUB boot loader'
[02:45] <jvai> rylan & x boots up fine? what kind of pc do u use?
[02:45] <Toma-> iratik: /etc and /boot are so very critical to have backed up.
[02:46] <iratik> should i do that
[02:46] <jvai> rylan, it's just a sound issue?
[02:46] <rylan> jvai, im using a pentium d 805 with a asus motherboard.
[02:46] <Toma-> iratik: as soon as you can, get a cron process that backsup /etc and /boot at 4am everyday or something
[02:47] <iratik> great -- more work
[02:47] <Toma-> iratik: youre a sys admin. you never stop getting work :)
[02:47] <rylan> jvai, its just a sound issue. interestingly the person who was having problems in the second link is also using an asus computer, so i am looking into it a bit more with lspci -vv
[02:47] <iratik> i've spent the last 5 hours just getting the existing backup process to work without an FTP server - and only a local windows box to backup to
[02:48] <r00723r0> i'm having issues with ubuntu - specifically, it won't let me configure my wireless card; any advice?
[02:48] <iratik>  i had put up a rails server on the server just for that purpsoe - so i could dump files into ports behind the NAT and get them with the windows box
[02:48] <jvai> asus.. "amd" processor?
[02:48] <iratik> oh god its been a long long long day
[02:49] <iratik> sigh... its asking me where in dev to put grub
[02:49] <Steve__> I am looking for some help with partioning, can anyone tell me how to reinit GRUB after changing the partion structure
[02:49] <iratik> we have a raid 1+0 sata setup
[02:49] <Toma-> iratik: ahh.
[02:49] <iratik>         " /dev/sda ? "
[02:49] <Toma-> iratik: i think so.
[02:49] <iratik> well.. it could only get worse
[02:49] <Toma-> thats the spirit :)
[02:50] <rylan> jvai, sound card is coming up as ASUSTec Computer inc Unknown sound device
[02:50] <iratik> i'm like at the point where snakes could fly out of the back of the machine and i wouldn't flinch
[02:50] <rylan> jvai, no Pentium proc.
[02:50] <bart_> IRC question , is there a way to output the channel list to a file ?
[02:51] <jvai> ok @ rylan lol the best i can do is help u google it.. "googling now"
[02:51] <iratik> f!!!! str8 to memtest
[02:51] <Toma-> bart...theres a button on the middle in xchat
[02:51] <rylan> jvai, thanks, your a gem
[02:51] <Peacer> !grub
[02:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:52] <TheShrewdDude> Hey guys... I just downloaded a .RUN file.
[02:52] <TheShrewdDude> I have no idea what to do with it.
[02:52] <TheShrewdDude> Any suggestions?
[02:52] <iratik> alright ------- please  ... please help me
[02:52] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, what are you trying to install?
[02:52] <TheShrewdDude> shatrat: OK, so it's an install file?
[02:53] <Steve__> --> ubotu:  Thanks for that
[02:53] <TheShrewdDude> shatrat: What can I do with it? :P
[02:53] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, whenever possible, try and get things from repositories, anything installed from a .run isnt gonna get updates
[02:53] <iratik> i pressed e at the grub menu... two more options now root (hd0,0)  and boot as well as memtest
[02:53] <iratik> just tell me what to do
[02:53] <Steve__> I will read into it now
[02:53] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, well, you downloaded it...what is it?
[02:53] <TheShrewdDude> shatrat: I tried that... I couldn't find it via synaptic :(
[02:53] <TheShrewdDude> shatrat: It's tremulous.
[02:53] <dalani33> NOTICE: anyone notice it's possible to run console commands without sudo with full root access when booting in failsasfe mode???
[02:53] <Toma-> iratik: what on earth... did you add that section i told you about?
[02:53] <TheShrewdDude> shatrat: So now I have a 100-MB thing sitting on my desktop and I can't do anything with it.
[02:53] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, ah, yes that is definitely in the repos.  You probably need to enable universe and multiverse repos though.
[02:54] <Toma-> dalani33: yep.
[02:54] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, /msg ubotu universe and the bot will PM you instructions
[02:54] <TheShrewdDude> shatrat: Well, how would I go about installing this .RUN file?
[02:54] <gn0me> ... is it normal for "Printer" to not be in the Control Center?
[02:54] <dalani33> sheesh what's up with that??
[02:54] <bart_> Toma-,  what button , i want to ./list > channel.list.file
[02:54] <Toma-> dalani33: you can disable it by remvoing rescue mode from the grub config
[02:54] <dalani33> oh really?
[02:54] <jvai> rylan.. wow! the google search turn up maaaad issues w/ asus sound look @ this - http://www.leenooks.com/ASUS+A7V266-MX+built+in+sound+card
[02:54] <dalani33> So how do I failsafe?
[02:55] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, like I said before, thats kind of a last resort for installing things, because if it installs that way i tmight not install to the proper locations and it wont update automatically.  If you enable universe and multiverse, youll be able to apt-get install tremulous
[02:55] <iratik> Toma-> You said boot to the rescue system  -- the only other thing you have told me to do is " iratik: as soon as you can, get a cron process that backsup /etc and /boot at 4am everyday or something "
[02:55] <Sanne> TheShrewdDude: I just got the zip file of tremulous, extracted it somewhere and ran it directly. But maybe you don't want to download again...
[02:55] <dalani33> if needed
[02:55] <iratik> then you trailed off
[02:55] <rylan> jvai, thanks
[02:55] <ramirex> hola como estan
[02:55] <iratik> !es
[02:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:55] <iratik> por favor!
[02:55] <TheShrewdDude> sanne: Hmm, they offer zips of a fully compiled version?
[02:55] <jvai> rylan i use a thinkpad.. i dont kno much about asus
[02:55] <TheShrewdDude> shatrat: Well, ok, thanks.
[02:56] <Toma-> dalani33: you cant :>
[02:56] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, trust me, you'll be saving headaches if you install from universe repositories.  it creates ane ntry for it in yoru Applications menu and everything :)
[02:56] <rylan> jvai, asus is the devil. chinese brand for chinese people.
[02:56] <Sanne> TheShrewdDude: lemme check (but also make sure there isn't the latest version in the repositories, look at packages.ubuntu.com)
[02:56] <rylan> jvai, cheap as shite.
[02:56] <dalani33> Toma: Ill try removing the feature for good form then
[02:56] <jvai> uuuch
[02:56] <Toma-> dalani33: like i said, you can add passsword protection onto grub options
[02:56] <dalani33> excellent thnks
[02:56] <Toma-> iratik: heres my default option. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5863/ You MUST change the UUID code and possible the "root" location and possibly the filenames of kernel and initrd
[02:56] <Toma-> thats from 5 mins ago
[02:56] <iratik> awesome
[02:56] <Sanne> TheShrewdDude: yup, I got tremulous-1.1.0.zip
[02:57] <Toma-> add that to your menu.lst
[02:57] <Toma-> and change the stuff i just said
[02:57] <TheShrewdDude> Sanne: Ok, cool; I have a bit more time and bandwidth. :)
[02:57] <jvai> <-- buying up all the ibm thinkapds t40's" only..  on a mission, & will get broken in the process
[02:57] <iratik> what in the name of all that is bacon!
[02:57] <Sanne> TheShrewdDude: but the repositories for edgy also have 1.1.0
[02:58] <Sanne> TheShrewdDude: you would just need to enable multiverse
[02:58] <iratik> where do i get that UUID! ?? --- wtf does god have against me !
[02:58] <TheShrewdDude> I'll try to see if I can get those repositories enabled... I don't think I can do it without blundering and severely screwing up my system. :(
[02:58] <Toma-> iratik: you can swap it with normal /dev entries
[02:58] <Sanne> TheShrewdDude: it's not hard, it's the official way really
[02:58] <iratik> i mean... i don't even know what a UUID is ?!?
[02:58] <shatrat> TheShrewdDude, its as easy as checking a few checkboxes or deleting a couple #s from a text file.
[02:58] <iratik> how am i suppsoed to change it to something that'll work
[02:59] <bimberi> !uuid
[02:59] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:59] <clearzen> Does anyone know how to use rsync mirrors?
[02:59] <Toma-> iratik: its a special code given to all your devices. just use "blkid" at the command to give you the root devices's UUID
[02:59] <Crescendo> I'm having trouble connecting to an SSH server in Nautilus - but it works fine in the terminal.  Any suggestions?
[02:59] <rylan> jvai, so how do i go about getting those AC97 codecs?
[02:59] <iratik> alright --- from this grub menu - how do i get to a !shell
[02:59] <AdamBerg> i am trying to get a game to load in wine and i can't seem to do it. i've run through the install 2 time
[02:59] <TheShrewdDude> Ok, thanks guys. :)
[02:59] <Sanne> TheShrewdDude: look here for info how to do that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[02:59] <blazemonger> what's the alternative install cd for?
[02:59] <gn0me> Where would I go to add/remove a printer? There's nothing in my Control Center for it.
[03:00] <blazemonger> does it contain tweaks or something?
[03:00] <Toma-> iratik: i told you, from the rescue area...
[03:00] <bimberi> !alternate | blazemonger
[03:00] <ubotu> blazemonger: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:00] <iratik> alright
[03:00] <Sanne> blazemonger: the alternate cd can also be used as a repository, while the live cd can't.
[03:01] <bimberi> gn0me: System -> Administration -> Printing
[03:01] <blazemonger> Sanne:so it doesn't install all of the bloated stuff?
[03:01] <rylan> can someone tell me how to go about getting the AC97 codec?
[03:01] <iratik> i'll reboot - get to the rootfs as root ... find the uuid -- and hopefully find out if the filesystem and data are still intact ..... write it down , write the main partition path in dev down then reboot to this grub menu and replace your directives with mine and if there is any glimmer of hope for the existence of a being above - then it'll boot and i can go on with my work -- wish me lucjk
[03:01] <iratik> thanks
[03:01] <AdamBerg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5866/
[03:01] <jvai> hold on rylan.. this coffe shop has slooow arse bandwidth
[03:01] <gn0me> bimberi: It's not there.
[03:01] <Sanne> blazemonger: heh... it installs the same packages as the desktop cd
[03:02] <Crescendo> I'm having trouble connecting to an SSH server in Nautilus - but it works fine in the terminal.  Any suggestions?
[03:02] <rylan> jvai, thanks a lot for helping man, it really means a lot to me
[03:02] <Toma-> iratik: if you can get to the rootfs, why not add that option of mine to the /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[03:02] <iratik> it looks like yours is not made for a server
[03:02] <jvai> rylan np.. just giving back "what was given
[03:02] <iratik> i'm so freaking screwed - it makes me sick
[03:02] <bimberi> gn0me: try running 'gnome-cups-manager' from a terminal
[03:03] <Toma-> iratik: its a learning experience! :)
[03:03] <gn0me> Thank you
[03:03] <iratik> i dropped the optimistic laughter for intermittent chuckles of schizophrenic madness many hours ago
[03:03] <bimberi> Sanne: actually the livcd does have a small repo on it - with things like build-essential (and dependencies)
[03:03] <mon^rch> does fsck work on ntfs?
[03:03] <jvai> rylan 2 links - http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=17&threadid=76146&enterthread=y & http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2950&SubCatID=154?
[03:03] <bimberi> mon^rch: no
[03:03] <mon^rch> shucks
[03:03] <rylan> jvai, sweet. i might have found one too
[03:04] <plex0r> hey
[03:04] <Sanne> bimberi: ah, makes sense, thanks for mentioning.
[03:04] <Toma-> brb
[03:04] <plex0r> anyone ever use xgl?
[03:04] <jvai> question, does any1 fel the squid proxy cache for a single box is a compliment filter to iptables?
[03:04] <bimberi> Sanne: np :)
[03:05] <bimberi> !anyone
[03:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:05] <jvai> lol
[03:05] <Cdesza1> jvai, squid does very little aditional filter, and is meant to be a cash, not a filter.
[03:05] <iratik> sh-3.1#
[03:05] <plex0r> oh you are a cunt arent you
[03:06] <clearzen> Is there a support channel for mythtv?
[03:06] <bimberi> !language | plex0r
[03:06] <ubotu> plex0r: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:06] <Sanne> mon^rch: you can find out what fsck supports by typing: fsck<tab><tab>
[03:06] <jvai> cdeszal... u mean.. i'm using it thinking it adds fitering for my browser, but it doesnt?? no way!
[03:06] <iratik> blkid didn't return anything
[03:06] <duckdown> Hey all.. Lately I have been experimenting with the -D option when I connect to one of my shells (it opens a SOCKS proxy for me, and I can then use it hide my IP & browse and what not), and it appears I am just idling in the shell and nobody is any the wiser that I am surfing.. But are logs of all the sites i visit and stuff visible to admins some how?
[03:07] <iratik> unless you want me to type " blkid "  which means i've died and gone to hell
[03:07] <AdamBerg> can anyone help me solve this error ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5866/
[03:07] <jvai> i thought squid would add an extra layer of protection w/ iptables
[03:07] <jellobean> edgy installer does not find my cd-rom drive (eventhough it loads fine and the bios recognizes it)...is there a way I can manually tell it where it is
[03:07] <rylan> jvai, ok i have downloaded it. now how the eff do i install it?
[03:07] <archangelpetro> does anyone know which package the syscall manpages are held in?
[03:07] <wheels3572> Can someone help me with mounting I have tried following some links but am getting no where
[03:07] <Toma-> iratik: well thats bizare
[03:08] <bimberi> archangelpetro: probably manpages-dev
[03:08] <jvai> lol... now "that" i dont know "properly"@ rylan
[03:08] <iratik> how screwed am i
[03:08] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, what you trying to mount?
[03:08] <archangelpetro> bimberi, thanks :D
[03:08] <plex0r> Why when i load beryl-manager through terminal it just loads a white screen and halts?
[03:08] <rylan> jvai,  i will do my best.
[03:08] <jvai> i dont wanna make it worse
[03:08] <bimberi> archangelpetro: yw :)
[03:08] <Crescendo> I'm having trouble connecting to an SSH server in Nautilus - but it works fine in the terminal.  Any suggestions?
[03:08] <Crescendo> I'm having trouble connecting to an SSH server in Nautilus - but it works fine in the terminal.  Any suggestions?
[03:09] <Crescendo> Whoops, my bad. ;x
[03:09] <MECU> Differ: okay, I tried fixing it by editing xorg.conf and it said something like "file/disk read only"
[03:09] <adrien> bonjour
[03:09] <iratik> Toma-: aww man... are you nodding silently!
[03:09] <iratik> !fr
[03:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:09] <plex0r> Why when i load beryl-manager through terminal it just loads a white screen and halts?
[03:09] <Crescendo> MECU, make sure you're root.
[03:09] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, im trying to mount my windows fat 32 partition
[03:09] <Toma-> sadly... yes.
[03:09] <MECU> during boot?
[03:09] <stinger_au> how come there is no wheel group in ubuntu ?
[03:09] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/mountpoint ?
[03:09] <Toma-> what the heck is a wheel group?
[03:10] <archangelpetro> wheel == default group allowed to SU
[03:10] <stinger_au> LOL
[03:10] <plex0r> there is wheel in freebsd :)
[03:10] <plex0r> Why when i load beryl-manager through terminal it just loads a white screen and halts?
[03:10] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, if it's that easy then why are the damn tutorials so hard lol
[03:10] <bimberi> stinger_au: 'admin' in Ubuntu.  idk why a different name though
[03:10] <stinger_au> screen -r /server
[03:10] <stinger_au> Must run suid root for multiuser support.
[03:10] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, people who use unix like to pretend theyre a lot smarter than the rest of us :P
[03:10] <noodles12> i'm trying to install a cups-pdf printer. I have installed it and i see it in /usr/lib/cups/backend but it does not show up as an option when adding a printer.
[03:11] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, just make sure you know which partition == windows one
[03:11] <wheels3572> ok
[03:11] <Vande8594> what distro of ubuntu is recomended for an old win. 98 box? will edgy work or is there a better version?
[03:11] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, try it and get back to me :P
[03:11] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, /dev/hdb1               1        2434    19551073+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[03:12] <bimberi> Crescendo: does sftp work (in the terminal)?
[03:12] <Crescendo> bimberi, why sftp?
[03:12] <bimberi> Crescendo: ... because that's what ssh in nautilus is doing
[03:12] <archangelpetro> wheels3572,  'mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows
[03:12] <Crescendo> bimberi, yep
[03:12] <shiv> I have 2 audio cards one onboard and 1 audigy. How do I tell mixer to make audigy default everytime it boots?
[03:12] <archangelpetro> (mkdir /media/windows first)
[03:12] <Sanne> Vande8594: depends on the hardware. Maybe choose a smaller desktop like xfce (xubuntu) rather than gnome (ubuntu) or kde (kubuntu)
[03:12] <rylan> jvai, looks like i need to bring in an expert.
[03:13] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, ok will try
[03:13] <Vande8594> Sanne its all older hardware. so is xubuntu lighter?
[03:13] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, dont forget the 'sudo' ;)
[03:13] <Vande8594> and more compatable with old stuff
[03:13] <rylan> can someone please help me install a AC97 codec? this is a bit too tech heavy for me
[03:13] <amoxika> amai staffe toebak
[03:13] <bimberi> Crescendo: what trouble is nautilus giving you?
[03:13] <Sanne> Vande8594: yes, definitely. I used it on an athlon thunderbird 1 ghz box and it was fine. What processor is that on your box?
[03:14] <dan__> i have a p6 7000ghz
[03:14] <jvai> rylan woord, & i found an asus wiki - http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/asus.html
[03:14] <Crescendo> bimberi, it sits there "Connecting to server" forever.
[03:14] <amoxika> al tmacheert dan toch
[03:14] <Vande8594> Sanne umm not sure havent turned it on in awhile its around 800 or so mHz, all i want to do is type and surf web on it
[03:14] <Vande8594> Sanne maby some music playing
[03:14] <iratik> alright -- et--- ne parlez pas ca langue ici ... allez au #ubuntu-fr
[03:14] <rylan> jvai, ill try that too
[03:14] <Crescendo> bimberi, PM further help to me - I need to go pick up the girl
[03:14] <Vande8594> dan_ i wish i could have that
[03:14] <iratik> anyway
[03:15] <dan__> lol vande
[03:15] <iratik> i did some lookng .. for /boot/grub
[03:15] <rylan> variant, are you there?
[03:15] <dan__> anyone else run css under wine?
[03:15] <iratik> find /boot/grub -- and did cat /boot/grub/menu.lst -- and saw there was a command "update-grub" ... it relies on "ls" somehow to get its source data
[03:15] <iratik> my "ls" is broken
[03:15] <Sanne> Vande8594: I would test with xubuntu. You could try the live cd to see if it picks up all hardware, but keep in mind that ir will be faster when actually installed. There are also still lighter desktops/window managers like fluxbox, openbox etc, but you will trade speed for convenience then.
[03:15] <bimberi> Crescendo: i can't really help much sorry
[03:15] <amoxika> no france
[03:16] <iratik> how do i get to the cd to copy over the cd's ls and overwrite my ls ?
[03:16] <Toma-> iratik: ls is broken? sounds like a rootkit to me
[03:16] <iratik> it is a rootkit
[03:16] <dan__> anyone else run counter strike source under wine?
[03:16] <shiv> I have 2 audio cards one onboard and 1 audigy. How do I tell mixer to make audigy default everytime it boots?
[03:16] <jvai> rylan fire up synaptic.. see if those drivers r in the repos
[03:16] <Vande8594> Sanne ok awsome ill jot those down, ill prolly start then with live scence i dont have a harddrive installed yet
[03:16] <iratik> last week -- i spent all day to day trying to get the darn thing to communicate without using FTP - that's how we think they got in
[03:17] <Toma-> iratik: youll need the coreutils package
[03:17] <iratik> i did all that stuff to fix it
[03:17] <iratik> didn't fix it
[03:17] <taylo1> Greetings all. Have a challenge with OO.o calc. I'm trying to set an Advanced Filter for "NOT EMPTY", how might I achieve that?
[03:17] <Sanne> Vande8594: what I don't know to recommend is if you should use edgy, or play safe and use dapper (last one before edgy with long time support - more stable)
[03:17] <iratik> we locked down the ports on our network .. at the moment only 20,21,25,80,81,143,443 are open
[03:17] <Vande8594> Sanne ok good idea
[03:17] <iratik> so we haven't had any more intrusions
[03:18] <Toma-> iratik: are you running a LIDS?
[03:18] <Sanne> Vande8594: maybe try edgy first, if it works, you'll have more recent software.
[03:18] <Luis07> how can I enable nvidia's digital vibrance at system startup? I can only enable it by running "nvidia-settings"
[03:18] <rylan> jvai, where would i look?
[03:18] <n00b> anybody wanna help a noob out?
[03:18] <dan__> sure nub what u need?
[03:18] <frogzoo> n00b: we don't know if we can help
[03:18] <n00b> what's the easiest way to tell what version I'm running (ie - 6.10 or 6.06)?
[03:18] <Vande8594> Sanne : k ill just burn both, i got like 5 computers sitting here so i can try a version on each
[03:18] <dan__> lol
[03:18] <frogzoo> n00b: lsb_release -a
[03:18] <taylo1> uname -a
[03:19] <jvai> rylan, the package manager, just type in the driver's name just to see, synaptic may shock u with them
[03:19] <Sanne> Vande8594: cool, good luck then, have fun :)
[03:19] <Vande8594> Sanne :: thanks man i hope this all works
[03:19] <Sanne> <-- grl, Vande8594 ...
[03:19] <bart_>  /exec lsb_release -a
[03:19] <n00b> ok, easiest way to tell if it's running the amd64 version as opposed to the 32-bit?  gcc -dumpmachine?
[03:20] <rylan> jvai, i did a search for it, it does have an AC97 in there, but nothing in the packages
[03:20] <jexdawg> has anyone ever installed music.rpm (small gnome applet for controlling music via a panel) and wants to help a lost, confused, and abandoned newbie out?
[03:20] <Vande8594> Sanne thanks women*
[03:20] <Vande8594> sry
[03:20] <Sanne> Vande8594: hehe, you're welcome :)
[03:20] <Vande8594> :)
[03:21] <Rohinton> ?
[03:21] <Rohinton> Hi - The builds from last night for Feisty on i386 - are they being rebuilt?
[03:21] <wheels3572> wheels@wheels-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows mount: mount point /media/windows does not exist
[03:21] <jvai> rylan.. lol.. i might lose u on this.. but a ?reboot? may be in order, to see if those drivers r in there properly
[03:21] <Vande8594> now only if they had mirrors in the states...
[03:21] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, wheels@wheels-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows mount: mount point /media/windows does not exist
[03:21] <dan_> where is the new server button on xchat?
[03:21] <rylan> jvai, so restart my computer?
[03:21] <feno> hello
[03:21] <Sanne> Vande8594: I bet there *are* mirrors in the us
[03:21] <Toma-> dan_: Ctrl T
[03:21] <iratik> intrusion detection system
[03:21] <Vande8594> Sanne: well registered mirrors
[03:22] <n00b> frogzoo: Thanks for the help.  I think it was you that said it first.
[03:22] <iratik> Well Toma-: i'm one kid - i just turned 21
[03:22] <n00b> Anybody else whgo helped: Thanks to you too.
[03:22] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, mkdir /media/windows
[03:22] <jvai> rylan bfore u do a reboot, see if u can archive the drivers, like "right clicking" then "auto archive"  i think it is
[03:22] <iratik> i'm responsible for the entire IT systems of 2 companies - and honestly - i'm starting to loathe it
[03:22] <amoxika> is this chat in the U.K ?
[03:22] <wheels3572> ok
[03:22] <Luis07> how can I enable nvidia's digital vibrance at system startup? I can only enable it by running "nvidia-settings"
[03:22] <Sanne> Vande8594: ah... and I forgot, it's xubuntu, maybe different, because it's manily a community project (should have mentioned that).
[03:22] <frogzoo> amoxika: international
[03:22] <iratik> like i'm getting taken advantage of or something
[03:22] <frogzoo> iratik: sup?
[03:23] <amoxika> o k
[03:23] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, I had followed a thing that I had made a Windows directory already
[03:23] <rylan> jvai, what i downloaded has a whole arseload of files.
[03:23] <Vande8594> Sanne :: ok thanks
[03:23] <archangelpetro> well wheels3572 use that directory instead of /media/windows
[03:23] <jvai> rylan wher r they located?
[03:23] <Sanne> Vande8594: :)
[03:23] <fgsfdsfgsfds> Question about installing Ubuntu on Parallels
[03:23] <Toma-> iratik: theres an old saying.. K.I.S.S. It applys to everything really. Keep It Simple Stupid. try not to complicate things with extra "features" as youll endup leaving doors open. and backup EVERYTHING.
[03:23] <iratik> i freakin -- wanna go home! .. i wanted to an hour and a half ago -- but instead ... i'm stuck here alone in an empty office
[03:23] <rylan> jvai, in a folder on my desktop
[03:23] <wheels3572> ok
[03:23] <iratik> sigh.....
[03:23] <iratik> Toma-: i got it fixed i think
[03:24] <Vande8594> well i have decided if i get this working i am going to make a dedicated seeding computer
[03:24] <Toma-> rad :>
[03:24] <jvai> rylan, right click the folder
[03:24] <frogzoo> iratik: sux to work in IT at the bottom of the food chain
[03:24] <jvai> let me kno the options
[03:24] <jvai> u see
[03:24] <fgsfdsfgsfds> I'm trying to install ubuntu on Parallels Mac, and it wants to know how I want to partition the disk. which one do I pick to not lose all my OS X files?
[03:24] <jexdawg> does anyone know of a deb package to install a music controlling applet in a panel for ubuntu? or, any way to control rhythmbox from a panel? like, any at all? please?
[03:24] <iratik> thats the problem - i'm the whole food chain - i'm the top and the bottom
[03:24] <Toma-> haha
[03:24] <frogzoo> iratik: anyways -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:24] <iratik> i get paid in the middle for doing things at both extremes
[03:24] <Toma-> sounds like a dodgy company
[03:24] <iratik> alright yeah.. it is offtopic - my bad tho
[03:25] <kyle__> hi, My xorg.conf tells me I have an API mismatch. The nvidia kernel module thinks I have 8776 drivers while the drivers I have installed are the latest 9XXX series. Which kernels do I need to remove and which do I need to get? Thanks
[03:25] <rylan> jvai, ill try a restart
[03:25] <iratik> oh thank god
[03:25] <entel> l
[03:25] <Toma-> kyle__: youll find you didnt use the correct xorg lib location
[03:25] <Crescendo> I'm having trouble connecting to an SSH server in Nautilus - but it works fine in the terminal.  Any suggestions?
[03:26] <dan_> crescendo: use Nautilus
[03:26] <dan_> crescendo: use Terminal*
[03:26] <kyle__> Toma- What do you mean?
[03:26] <bart_> Crescendo, have you installed sshfs ?
[03:26] <Crescendo> dan_, yes it works fine in terminal
[03:26] <linux_kid> Welcome, cellfish, to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:26] <Toma-> kyle__: well, did you use a deb to install the 9xxx drivers?
[03:26] <Crescendo> bart_, it worked fine a couple days ago
[03:26] <jvai> ok @ rylan.. the best, man
[03:27] <jvai> come back in to let me know @ rylan
[03:27] <kyle__> Toma- I downloaded them from alberto milones repository.
[03:27] <bart_> Crescendo, might want to delete old certificates in ~/.ssh
[03:27] <Toma-> kyle__: ahh ok
[03:27] <Crescendo> Alright, will do
[03:27] <katie> hi, i have a wireless card with the bcm43xx driver, things worked perfectly up until a couple days ago
[03:27] <Toma-> kyle__: have you read his message boards?
[03:27] <katie> then all of the sudden.. i can't associate
[03:27] <kyle__> no
[03:27] <katie> only thing i've done since is use update-manager
[03:27] <linux_kid> katie, what have you done that may have killed your wireless
[03:28] <Sanne> kyle__ (and Toma-): sorry for interrupting... before you do anything: I had this same error some days before, the kernel picked up the wrong nvidia driver during boot, I resolved it with a new reboot. No idea what this was, but worth a try maybe?
[03:28] <gaten> im disableing some of my boot services. the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 suggests changing the captial 'K' in all the unused services in /etc/rc0.d/  to a lowercase 'k'. would removing executable permission work just as well or no b/c they are symlinks or that the boot process is run as root (i think)
[03:28] <katie> altho previously.. i was getting bad connections with the 2.6.17-10 kernel
[03:28] <linux_kid> katie, what did you get for the update manager?
[03:28] <katie> and had to revert back to 2.6.15
[03:28] <katie> but now that doesn't even work
[03:28] <linux_kid> katie, changing the kernel could kill the wireless
[03:28] <katie> yeah.. i'm sure it could..
[03:28] <linux_kid> lol
[03:28] <katie> i switched back to the working
[03:28] <Toma-> Sanne: kyle__ : yeh i did that. you can also "sudo rmmod nvidia"
[03:28] <katie> or rather what i thought was working
[03:29] <katie> but that fails
[03:29] <Boxxertrumps> Is this stable? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install%2eexe
[03:29] <kyle__> ok, I'll try thank
[03:29] <jexdawg> i want to install this: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/gnome/music-applet but i'm not really sure what to download. there are like 6 billion options. thats a lot. haha. can anyone help me?
[03:29] <kyle__> that
[03:29] <linux_kid> katie, did you say bcm43xx, ndiswrapper or linuxant?
[03:29] <katie> in /var/log/messages it says
[03:29] <katie> ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth2: link is not ready
[03:29] <katie> bcm43xx
[03:29] <katie> i'd never use that crap linuxant..
[03:29] <katie> uggh
[03:29] <katie> ndiswrapper was required when i first installed this laptop
[03:29] <dan_> Katie: are u a girl?
[03:29] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, ty that worked perfectly :)
[03:30] <katie> well.. the laptop is my gfs :)
[03:30] <linux_kid> katie, i use it and i have someone to ask for money back if it dosen't work :)
[03:30] <katie> i'm just logged in her name
[03:30] <katie> lol
[03:30] <katie> i set it up for her last april
[03:30] <Boxxertrumps> neat
[03:30] <Sanne> dan_: an what if katie was?
[03:30] <katie> it required ndiswrapper back then
[03:30] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, np
[03:30] <jvai> yo rylan.. what happens?
[03:30] <katie> she does use it every day up until now :(
[03:30] <blazemonger> i thought it wasn't reccomended to run a server on debian unstable but ubuntu is based on debian unstable right?
[03:30] <rylan> jvai, well, i have... sound now, but its also got a really high pitched whine also
[03:30] <katie> hasn't booted back into widows
[03:31] <katie> since
[03:31] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, now to go 1 step further.  I wanna make one folder on that drive accessible not the whole drive ?
[03:31] <linux_kid> katie, what wireless card is it using?
[03:31] <jexdawg> how do i find out if i am amd64, i386, or powerpc - what is my architecture?
[03:31] <katie> it's a minipci
[03:31] <jvai> whoot rylan.. asus issues..
[03:31] <katie> broadcom 4306 is all it says
[03:31] <dan_> anyone know a good prism2 card for use with ubuntu?
[03:31] <linux_kid> jexdawg, whats your manufacturer and model number?
[03:31] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, chmod -R xxx /mnt/win/foldername
[03:31] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, man chmod
[03:31] <jvai> rylan, the high pitch noises r from the speakrs?
[03:32] <diego> hi everyone
[03:32] <rylan> i've learned 2 important things about fixing computers. first, get a good bottle of wine, and second get your girlfriend out of the house.
[03:32] <linux_kid> katie, 4306 is it
[03:32] <Keitaru> How in ubuntu can I access shared folders on a  network which is windows [i am using ubuntu] 
[03:32] <iratik> screw you guys - i'm going home
[03:32] <jvai> rylan try fidling with the sound.. lke the "line in"
[03:32] <linux_kid> rylan, good point
[03:32] <rylan> jvai, sounds like mostly one side.
[03:32] <Sanne> rylan: I find this slightly  offensive
[03:33] <krups> i'm having issues playing some cds.  it's works for some, but not others.  ideas on how to troubleshoot?  i can rip them on a windows box - just don't like to.
[03:33] <Sanne> rylan: and I don't mean the wine ;)
[03:33] <jvai> lmao @ rylan.. cause we luv the girls, but not the distractions. lolo
[03:33] <Boxxertrumps> Keitaru: if you can dual boot you could just use windows.
[03:33] <wheels3572> hey archangelpetro may I PM you or does that not work?
[03:33] <dan_> lol
[03:33] <rylan> Sanne, sorry, my girlfriend is "traditional" asian, so something like a kitten the size of a 16 year old.
[03:33] <linux_kid> krups, what kind of CD's?
[03:33] <dasickis> hey i was wondering how do you remove a program you build from source?
[03:33] <dan_> duel boot and use windows
[03:33] <dan_> ROFL
[03:33] <Keitaru> Boxxertrumps: How do I grab files from windows
[03:33] <Keitaru> Yes I use dualboot
[03:33] <dan_> Keitaru: you have to mount your windows partition
[03:33] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, go ahead
[03:34] <krups> linux_kid: audio cds.  this one is phillip glas - solo piano.  and i'd like to rip it to flac.
[03:34] <rylan> jvai, well. i touched the "line" setting in alsa mixer and sound dissapeared /cry
[03:34] <Boxxertrumps> Keitaru: just go onto windows and get the files you need
[03:34] <Sanne> rylan: ok, lol, but please remember not to act like we (women) don't exist in this channels.
[03:34] <linux_kid> krups, like did you buy it at a store, or from your friend?
[03:34] <kyle__> cd
[03:34] <Keitaru> boxxertrump: then
[03:34] <jvai> u "touch" it & it bounced? @ rylan..
[03:34] <dasickis> hey i was wondering how do you remove a program you build from source?
[03:34] <Keitaru> dan_: how do i mount my windows partition
[03:34] <krups> linux_kid bought it at a store - it's not a copy.
[03:34] <Boxxertrumps> id love to marry a linux user
[03:34] <dan_> Boxxertrumps: why go back to windows when u can use linux?
[03:35] <Keitaru> I am trying to transfer my music/movies onto linux
[03:35] <Sanne> Boxxertrumps: my husband did :)
[03:35] <dan_> ill help u
[03:35] <Boxxertrumps> dan_: so you can use the windows only functions
[03:35] <rylan> Sanne, hardly. i know you exist, but wouldnt you be miffed if your boyfriend kept coming up to you for lovin every 10 min
[03:35] <linux_kid> krups, im not sure, but you may have to use windows :(
[03:35] <krups> linux_kid assuming some wierd drm shit.  bleh
[03:35] <linux_kid> Sanne, good job being a female computer person
[03:35] <Sanne> rylan: yeah, of course, I understand :)
[03:35] <rylan> jvai, pretty much i was going to turn down the "line" imput and sound shut off.
[03:35] <linux_kid> krups, good point, i agree
[03:35] <Keitaru> dan_ id appreciate it :) thanks
[03:36] <jvai> lmao... i thought i was alone in that @ rylan.. soo, othr guys go thru too!!! what a joy!
[03:36] <guspad> hey!
[03:36] <IdahoEv> my new ubuntu install is not detecting my video card (ATI Radeon 9800), and is running in safe 640x480 mode.   What should I do first to fix/debug this?
[03:36] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, hmmm didnt' work your not on my buddy list or im not on yours I believe thats why tha tdont work lol
[03:36] <guspad> my nautilus is pointing the trash to /var/run :S
[03:36] <katie> so.. hmm
[03:36] <linux_kid> !ATI | IdahoEv
[03:36] <ubotu> IdahoEv: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <rylan> so, does anyone have any idea why my "touching" the line setting in alsa mixer totally canceled out my sound?
[03:36] <jvai> rylan try playing around with the sound.. see if u can get it  back, by toggling things
[03:36] <Sanne> linux_kid: thanks, but wasn't much effort really, I'm drawn to that stuff (and sorry for offtopic...)
[03:37] <IdahoEv> linux_kid: grazie
[03:37] <katie> it's weird cuz this appears on every kernel in dmesg now ... ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth2: link is not ready
[03:37] <guspad> does someone know where the config for the trash path is ?
[03:37] <Boxxertrumps> already at 7%...
[03:37] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, what are you on to logonto IRc?
[03:37] <Boxxertrumps> ubuntu EXE, here i come!
[03:37] <linux_kid> Sanne, tell that to ALL of your gfs
[03:37] <katie> but i knew ubuntu would be better for her
[03:37] <lufis> guspad: dunno, but type trash:// in nautilus
[03:38] <Boxxertrumps> ubuntu is the most popular starter linux
[03:38] <rylan> nothin
[03:38] <rylan> jvai, nothing helps
[03:38] <Sanne> linux_kid: I'd love to have more females with whom to talk computer and linux. More males also, for that matter. But there's always the 'net ;)
[03:38] <wheels3572> Yeah
[03:38] <Crescendo> !mdns
[03:38] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, yeah
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <linux_kid> katie, is she all for ubuntu? cause if you can help her more with gentoo, it may be better
[03:38] <Boxxertrumps> i usually argue with my best friend about Win vs Lin
[03:38] <katie> well linux distros aren't that different really
[03:38] <linux_kid> Sanne, we're in a half-perfect world :)
[03:38] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, ok to change the permissions on a directory you need to use the  chmod command..
[03:39] <katie> all have the same basic software
[03:39] <Sanne> linux_kid: yeah :)
[03:39] <lufis> guspad: it's in a hidden dir in your home... ~/.Trash
[03:39] <jvai> rylan u know what,, a reboot may solve it, & u may have to live with the high pitch sound?? it sounds crazy.. but...
[03:39] <katie> plus i know that having some ubuntu specific knowledge would be useful
[03:39] <jvai> rylan u r on dapper?
[03:39] <archangelpetro> wheels3572, to change a directory + its contents... you do something like..  chmod -R 750 /the/name/of/dir
[03:39] <katie> since lots of other people are hearing about ubuntu now
[03:39] <guspad> lufis, but it's not pointing to there
[03:39] <katie> aha.. called for food
[03:39] <katie> brb
[03:39] <lufis> guspad: what do you mean?
[03:39] <Boxxertrumps> I vote that we all go down to our local computer stores and convince the IT staff to have linux preinstalled for free.
[03:39] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, ok
[03:39] <guspad> lufis, it's poiting to /var/run
[03:40] <archangelpetro> (750 refers to 3 octal numbers denoting permissions of, USER/Group/others   which can be read in the man page for chmod)
[03:40] <rylan> jvai, i downloaded the cd deal from the ubuntu website.
[03:40] <lufis> guspad: weird. just a sec
[03:40] <linux_kid> wow, for the past 10 minutes, I though I was in the offtopic channel :) lol
[03:40] <guspad> lufis, i mean that u open the trash and u see the content of  /var/run
[03:40] <jvai> rylan "cd deal"?
[03:40] <rylan> jvai, looks like 6.10 edgy eft
[03:40] <lufis> guspad: have you made a symlink or something?
[03:41] <guspad> nop
[03:41] <Boxxertrumps> i tried downloading kubuntu, and i think i got cd to work, but my BIOS threw a startup error at me
[03:41] <jvai> ooooo! no wonder... rylan... living near the cliffs is kinda... brave.. u must be in cali
[03:41] <rylan> jvai, and there is no living with the high pitched wail. i love my music
[03:41] <linux_kid> Boxxertrumps, whats the error
[03:41] <rylan> jvai, try across the ocean, im in shanghai
[03:41] <kungfugoat> I need replacements for mediamonkey and microsoft money
[03:41] <lufis> Weird question, but: would I be completely insane to dist-upgrade to Feisty?
[03:42] <plex0r> Hi i have a problem i installed xgl and compiz but when i run thefuture in terminal i get this error plex0r@plex0r-laptop:~$ thefuture
[03:42] <plex0r> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[03:42] <linux_kid> kungfugoat, wine them
[03:42] <jvai> god..... rylan.. dapper , maan, for peac of mind.. u r a braver soul than myself
[03:42] <rylan> jvai, try ignorant of the differances. anychance i can downgrade?
[03:42] <linux_kid> javi, Edgy isnt that bad for desktops
[03:42] <kungfugoat> linux_kid: thanks
[03:43] <plex0r> plex0r@plex0r-laptop:~$ thefuture
[03:43] <plex0r> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[03:43] <jvai> rylan, i dunno, try a live cd of dapper, play around with it... it may be the solution
[03:43] <jvai> dapper is supported till '08
[03:43] <linux_kid> Is there a file like xorg.conf for sound cards?
[03:44] <guspad> lufis, yes
[03:44] <linux_kid> kungfugoat, your welcome
[03:44] <rylan> jvai, hmmm. problem is i backed up all my stuff on this now, and i have all of one CD-R left
[03:44] <plex0r> does anyone know this error for compiz and xgl
[03:44] <linux_kid> rylan, ill send you some...
[03:44] <plex0r> plex0r@plex0r-laptop:~$ thefuture
[03:44] <plex0r> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[03:44] <rylan> linux_kid, im in shanghai, the cost to send it would be about 800% the price of them here
[03:44] <linux_kid> plex0r, its an invalid command
[03:45] <IdahoEv> linux_kid:  thanks again, install of fglrx as per the instructions you linked worked perfectly.
[03:45] <lufis> guspad: i tried it a couple of weeks ago. everything went ok until apt started spewing errors about the metacity package
[03:45] <jvai> dapper - 6.06 .... rylan.. no extra storage.. even an extra box lying round to tranfer?
[03:45] <rylan> jvai, nah, nothing
[03:45] <linux_kid> IdahoEv, You are Very Welcome
[03:45] <plex0r> but i followed the ubuntuguide and it tells me to run that command?
[03:45] <jvai> ooooooo.....
[03:45] <guspad> lufis, gnome is still in beta
[03:45] <linux_kid> rylan: lol
[03:45] <lufis> guspad: yeah, but i don't mind a crash here and there
[03:46] <rylan> jvai, so no way to clean up the sound then?
[03:46] <guspad> lufis, ah, ok, then go ahead
[03:46] <guspad> :P
[03:46] <plex0r> ?
[03:46] <jvai> wish i could mail u 1 o mine @ rylan but.. the loooong distance mail would bankrupt me
[03:46] <lufis> guspad: well... the question is if i'll be ABLE to go ahead without borking my system :P
[03:46] <jvai> there's always a wayt @ rylan to clean up the sound.. but right now, it's beyond me
[03:47] <rylan> jvai, im going to restart, get rid of alsa mixer and try the stock one,
[03:47] <jvai> ok @ rylan
[03:47] <rylan> jvai, then, fiddle with things more.
[03:48] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin file?
[03:48] <bruenig> you don't mount a .bin file
[03:49] <aridese> bruenig, it's a CD-ROM image
[03:49] <rpc> does anyone know why mysql doesn't like my tunneled connection? can it see the difference between real localhost connect and tunneled one?
[03:49] <bruenig> really?
[03:49] <bruenig> oh that
[03:49] <bruenig> the bin and cue
[03:50] <bruenig> you can play that I believe in vlc
[03:50] <aridese> bruenig, it's a data file.
[03:50] <riotkittie> argh
[03:50] <aridese> disc
[03:51] <Frogzoo> aridese: mdf2iso is probly what you want
[03:51] <Frogzoo> rpc: only the authentication is different
[03:52] <mackinac> !iso
[03:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[03:52] <aridese> ah.
[03:52] <Frogzoo> [Ayanami] : cdemu to mount bin/cue files
[03:52] <aridese> cdemu? ightt, thanks
[03:52] <[Ayanami] > Oooh, thanks. :)
[03:52] <Frogzoo> aridese: but you have to compile, so mdf2iso is quickest
[03:53] <Boxxertrumps> ubuntu exe:21%
[03:53] <aridese> why is it still so archaic to mount images though... no daemontools or similar ;( ?
[03:53] <aridese> Frogzoo: i don't mind compiling, mdf2iso bangs a bit too many bits on the hard drive :/
[03:53] <Frogzoo> aridese: all it needs is for someone to tweak nautilus - there's already a script - you just right click & mount
[03:53] <aridese> oh really?
[03:54] <aridese> ill look around for that, thanks
[03:54] <plex0r> i need help... i followed all this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[03:54] <plex0r> and i get an error
[03:54] <Frogzoo> plex0r: -> #ubuntu-effects
[03:55] <quaal> where does it say in the pfsense cd image what version it is
[03:56] <Owner> Hey, I am running the live cd for ubuntu on my laptop. is it possible to configure to connect to the internet without having installed linux?
[03:56] <aridese> Frogzoo, i have compiled cdemu, i understand it's a kernel module, do i need to do anything special for it to be loaded automatically on every boot?
[03:57] <jvai> rylan. i'm sorry i dont kno what to do , to help ya
[03:57] <null__> hello \
[03:57] <Frogzoo> Owner: is this a trick question?
[03:57] <Owner> no, it isnt.
[03:57] <null__> any one having coreduo with intel ipw3945 wireless module ?
[03:57] <null__> there is a kernel cpu bug
[03:57] <rylan> jvai, well, i have the distortion tracked down to my left speaker, im pretty sure the audio is getting muddled from my line in and possibly other data too.
[03:57] <Owner> Is this a stupid question? Sorr.
[03:57] <Frogzoo> aridese: read the install docs
[03:57] <Borat> hey, does anyone know how i can find out what kernel im running?
[03:57] <Frogzoo> Owner: cds tend to be read only
[03:58] <jvai> ok
[03:58] <rylan> jvai, but i think i will just mute my left speaker for now untill i get it working
[03:58] <HymnToLife> Borat, uname -r
[03:58] <null__> Borat, uname -a
[03:58] <jvai> rylan r those audio files on the desktop still?
[03:58] <Owner> Okay, does that mean I would have to install linux entirely to make it mesh with my wireless card?
[03:58] <rylan> jvai, yes,
[03:59] <Boxxertrumps> you know what pisses me off? leetspeak.
[03:59] <Boxxertrumps> you have 10 fingers, USE THEM DAMMIT!
[04:00] <Frogzoo> Boxxertrumps: dl dUd
[04:00] <rylan> is there anyway to just reboot my sound, or do i have to keep rebooting my computer.
[04:00] <GaiaX11> Hi I am trying to do a credit card payment, but it is secured by verisign and it has not accepted my payment. Does Verisign avoid linux at all?
[04:00] <aridese> Boxxertrumps, j00 r a n00b, 57f|_|
[04:00] <jvai> there should be a way @ rylan, i'm googling for ya now
[04:01] <Frogzoo> Owner: unless you want to reconfigure every boot
[04:01] <linux_kid1> How do i do a ghost on NickServ to log out another identity?
[04:01] <Owner> But is it possible to do it this time?
[04:02] <Frogzoo> Owner: depends - wireless can be fussy
[04:02] <rylan> sound is fuzzy too,
[04:02] <iKitchu> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an iMac G3, I get a black screen when I boot from the CD (edgy)... I can still access the alt+ctrl+F1toF6
[04:02] <rylan> well more like screaching
[04:02] <Owner> Frogzoo: Assuming I have the livedisk, how would I do it?
[04:03] <Frogzoo> !wifi | Owner
[04:03] <ubotu> Owner: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:03] <Owner> ubotu: Thanks.
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <MECU> well, I failed to install ubuntu because it doesn't support my ATI video card (at least, I think that's the reason)
[04:04] <MECU> "recovery" mode was crap
[04:04] <Madpilot> MECU, what model of ATI card?
[04:04] <MECU> 9800pro
[04:05] <Chadarius> MECU: that shouldn't be a problem with ATI card
[04:05] <Chadarius> MECU: Does X fail to load or something?
[04:05] <jvai> rylan, u in here still? look @ what i found - http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/02/sound-problem-fix-for-edgy/
[04:05] <timthelion> is it possible to prevent a window manager(ie metacity) from starting when gnome starts?
[04:05] <Madpilot> MECU, that should work, my 9600XT works nicely
[04:06] <cmor> hi all
[04:06] <MECU> X? the load screen comes up fine, looks good, then black screen
[04:06] <rylan> jvai, thanks
[04:06] <pavs> where is the .htaccess file located?
[04:06] <Chadarius> MECU: are you using default ATI driver or the binary driver
[04:06] <MECU> I'm using whatever one gets installed when you install
[04:07] <linux_kid> Some DVD's play in Totem, some Don't.  How do i make sure I have ALL the plug-ins?
[04:07] <cmor> i just noticed this os on ebay :P so i dug deeper and found the official site, and was wondering about a few things.
[04:08] <rylan> jvai, im trying it.
[04:08] <jvai> ok @ rylan
[04:08] <josh__> hello everyone!
[04:08] <Pelo> cmor,  yeah, don't buy it on ebay, just steal it from the free download site
[04:08] <cmor> can you play world of warcraft on this os?
[04:08] <cmor> downloading it now :P
[04:08] <Chadarius> cmor: Yeah! You can
[04:08] <rylan> cmor, its doubtful
[04:09] <W0nderl00t> Hello everyone! quick question: if im running vmware over ubuntu, where is the folder where i could put files that my VM can see? i tried .vmware but doesnt do the trick...
[04:09] <jvai> rylan i got that link from this 1 - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_MIDI_sound_server_.28Timidity.2B.2B.29
[04:09] <cmor> chad you say yes and rylan says no :(
[04:09] <josh__> Can anyone help me with getting mp3 playback? I have sounds (they play when I log in) but my system will not play CD's or mp3s
[04:09] <Chadarius> cmor: Give me a second I'll post a link on WOW for you. I play WOW GuildWars and City of Heroes in Linux using Cedega
[04:09] <cmor> nice
[04:09] <rylan> cmor, well i have only been using for a few days, seems unlikely
[04:09] <cmor> merci
[04:10] <rylan> thats fnucking awesome
[04:10] <rylan> remind me again why people use windows?
[04:10] <Chadarius> cmor: I don't think you really need to use Cedega anymore though I think WINE will probably do it now
[04:10] <cmor> i would love to tell mircosoft to go pound sound :P
[04:10] <Pelo> !mp3 | josh__
[04:10] <ubotu> josh__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <josh__> !mp3
[04:10] <rylan> cmor, well right now linux is pounding my sound
[04:10] <Chadarius> cmor: the only thing I have it around for us Battlefield 2142
[04:10] <linux_kid> !dvd
[04:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:11] <blazemonger> is the ubuntu alternative install cd have a more stable ubuntu on it?
[04:11] <linux_kid> blazemonger, no
[04:11] <Chadarius> cmor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[04:11] <blazemonger> i was told earlier today it was
[04:11] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, no, it's the very same
[04:11] <Pelo> blazemonger,  it's a CLI installation interface, ie not a live cd
[04:11] <W0nderl00t> ...um can someone tell me which folder i put stuff in so my vmx machine can see it? im using vmware player and not server, if that helps.
[04:11] <blazemonger> everytime ive tried ubuntu it's been extremely slow even on a p4 1.4 ghz with 768 megabytes of memory
[04:11] <blazemonger> then again i dont have a 3d card
[04:11] <cmor> thanks chad ill go do some reading :P
[04:11] <Pelo> W0nderl00t, ,  try in #vmware
[04:12] <blazemonger> i want faster 2d graphics
[04:12] <blazemonger> like debian/slack offered
[04:12] <Chadarius> cmor: You probably don't have to compile WINE yourself... this is an older howto. Just install the latest WINE using Synaptec
[04:12] <W0nderl00t> Pelo: I'll try that
[04:12] <neko_> while date +%h -lt 12; do sleep 3600; done; execute command here ##How can I use while with date lke this? This doesn't work.
[04:12] <vlt> Hello, I just installed the package "linux-source-2.6", now there's a bz2 file in /usr/src. Is this normal? Why wasn't it unzipped by the install process? Or where is it now?
[04:12] <Pelo> blazemonger,  you might want to try xubuntu , it is somewhat lighter
[04:12] <blazemonger> would building a new kernel speed up ubuntu?
[04:13] <linuxfanstar> hi
[04:13] <atomiku> what good torrent cilent can you recommend?
[04:13] <neko_> Oops, wrong channel. Meant at #bash.
[04:13] <Pelo> atomiku,  utorrent running on wine
[04:13] <blazemonger> how do i repair bugs in ubuntu?
[04:13] <linuxfanstar> so composite by default is definetly not going to be in 7.04 now that it is defered?
[04:13] <atomiku> Pelo: was thinkin about that
[04:14] <Chadarius> atomiku: I use azureus most of the time
[04:14] <Pelo> atomiku,  but keep an eye out for deluge-torrent , it looks promissing
[04:14] <atomiku> yeah okay ill do that
[04:14] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, if done correctly, yes
[04:14] <atomiku> thanks guys
[04:14] <cmor> i have installed different version of linux in the past some i got as far as getting them online.. and then messed something up in the boot loader or something to that affect and went back to winblows.. ive always wanted to run linux tho. its about time i learn :P
[04:14] <HymnToLife> and to really speed it up, rebuild -everything- :p
[04:14] <chrisjw_> brb
[04:14] <Chadarius> cmor: Cool man... take the plunge the water is great!
[04:14] <blazemonger> cmeme:i want to use Ubuntu but it's not stable on my computer
[04:14] <cmor> :)
[04:14] <blazemonger> but OTHER distros like Debian work though
[04:15] <blazemonger> why would ubuntu which is based on Debian be *SLOW*?
[04:15] <blazemonger> it'[s slower than XP
[04:15] <Chadarius> blazemonger: That seems funky to me cause Ubuntu is based on Debian...
[04:15] <blazemonger> it IS fishy to me chable
[04:15] <vlt> and are the files in linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 the very same that produced my running kernel 2.6.15-28-k7?
[04:15] <blazemonger> even debian SID is faster than Ubuntu on my system
[04:15] <rylan> jvai, those sites are a bit too technical for me
[04:16] <blazemonger> maybe there's alot of background processes in ubuntu that dont run by default on debian
[04:16] <jvai> ooooo
[04:16] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, Ubuntu is not designed to be fast
[04:16] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Is the graphics that are slow? Drive speed? what?
[04:16] <HymnToLife> if you don't like that, don't use Ubuntu
[04:16] <chrisjw_> grr brb
[04:16] <blazemonger> and alot of times the gnome pannels FREEZE
[04:16] <Pelo> HymnToLife,  out of curiosity, what is designed to be fast ?
[04:16] <blazemonger> and there's alot of applications that just refuse to run
[04:17] <cmor> are there programs available that allow you to talk to your freinds on lets say Cough crappy ol msn Cough while you are on linux? and  the will be my last newb question today. ill just sit back and watch :P
[04:17] <HymnToLife> Pelo, Debian, FreeBSD, Slack, Gentoo...
[04:17] <blazemonger> like for example:billard-gl it works PERFECT in Debian but it freezes ubuntu to where i have to reboot
[04:17] <Chadarius> HymnToLife: I don't find Ubuntu especially slow in comparison to other desktop distros. True if you want a really tight and fast Linux install Gentoo might be the way to go. If you want to really hack the kernel up nicely :)
[04:17] <Pelo> HymnToLife,  tnaks
[04:17] <blazemonger> i'm having nightmares in ubuntu
[04:17] <Pelo> cmor,  gaim
[04:17] <kungfugoat> well, everything works on my laptop
[04:17] <kungfugoat> linux has come a long way
[04:17] <jvai> rylan.. those commands r "copy & paste" variety.. it's easy, i didnt start using a pc till 2004, dont overwelmed @ it..
[04:17] <iKitchu> how do I change the refresh rate in text-only mode?
[04:17] <jvai> lol
[04:17] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:what kind of laptop do you have that way i can go out and buy the same hardwar
[04:17] <cmor> gaim ahh nice ..  i think i am fim with that too.. nice
[04:18] <Chadarius> blazemonger: What kind of hardware you running it on?
[04:18] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: I have a fujitsu lifebook n3530
[04:18] <blazemonger> a Pentium 4 1.4ghz with 768 megabytes of SDRAM
[04:18] <blazemonger> and a ATi RAGE 128 video card with 128 megabytes of memory
[04:18] <rylan> the one you sent is just for MIDI, and the other websites dont apply
[04:18] <blazemonger> (at least my friend says it has 128 megabytes of video
[04:18] <blazemonger> maybe i should buy a new computer
[04:18] <Pelo> later
[04:18] <kungfugoat> it's got centrino duo, Intel wi-fi and ati radeon x1400
[04:18] <rylan> jvai, the one you sent is just for MIDI, and the other websites dont apply
[04:18] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Rage? hrm
[04:19] <jvai> oooo sorry @ rylan
[04:19] <blazemonger> and there are no rage drivers supported by ATI
[04:19] <rylan> jvai, no prob. the forum post looks promising
[04:19] <blazemonger> do i need a advanced graphics card to even USE ubuntu?
[04:19] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Yeah that is a super old card too
[04:19] <blazemonger> i know it's old but it works PERFECT in Debian but flaws like crazy in Ubuntu
[04:19] <SportChick> /sb end
[04:19] <blazemonger> which i don't understand WHY it would..
[04:20] <Chadarius> blazemonger: no I use it on some really old stuff. The native ATI stuff usually works pretty well
[04:20] <HymnToLife> different drives, maybe ?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> drivers*
[04:20] <blazemonger> and not only that Ubuntu has alot of things missing like the configuration editor
[04:20] <blazemonger> the system tools menu the debian menu
[04:20] <HymnToLife> blazemonger, why do you use it then ?
[04:20] <blazemonger> i apologize if i seem annoying
[04:20] <blazemonger> I want to use Ubuntu
[04:20] <rylan> jvai, no dice on that one either, thats for 2 sound cards'
[04:21] <blazemonger> hybrid:i've been trying to fix the bugs
[04:21] <rylan> variant, i could really use your help
[04:21] <blazemonger> so it can run faster
[04:21] <atomiku> Is there anything better than wine?
[04:21] <HymnToLife> that sounds a bit masochistic :p
[04:21] <atomiku> im having a few issues with some programs
[04:21] <blazemonger> i want Ubuntu to actually work
[04:21] <kungfugoat> atomiku: vmware
[04:21] <HymnToLife> I also think Debian is beter than Ubuntu, thus I use debian
[04:21] <jvai> ok @ rylan.. the wif iconnect is slow mollasses in tryst... too many ppl in here.. w/ windows laptops.. lol
[04:21] <blazemonger> which programs Atomiku?
[04:21] <atomiku> nah
[04:21] <atomiku> something that actually makes the program run like any other
[04:21] <atomiku> not in some virtual desktop
[04:22] <blazemonger> theres ALOT of things that work even in SID that won't even run in ubuntu
[04:22] <blazemonger> but i like ubuntu's interface alot better
[04:22] <kungfugoat> the free vmware server isn't half bad
[04:22] <kungfugoat> I've got it running on my server
[04:22] <kungfugoat> on debian
[04:22] <rylan> jvai, no prob. gunna restart again, mute my right channel audio that should give me decent sound, from my left.
[04:22] <jvai> rylan try this also... - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:22] <blazemonger> hell even the vice emulator won't even run
[04:22] <jvai> ok @ rylan
[04:23] <rylan> jvai, i always liked a good puzzle
[04:23] <Owner> i understand nobody's a wireless expert, but i cant get ubutntu live disk to connect to my network
[04:23] <blazemonger> i just want to know how Ubunto totally messed up debian
[04:23] <rylan> jvai,  but i like listening to music while doing it.
[04:23] <jvai> lol.. that's what linux is for.. to make us live longer.. it cures alsheimer's
[04:23] <cmor> hey i resemble that remark
[04:23] <blazemonger> well linux does create jobs lol
[04:24] <Owner> does anybody have any ideas as to why i cant get it to connect, or could somebody walk me through it?
[04:24] <blazemonger> i read on ubuntu's site that Ubuntu is STABLE
[04:24] <jvai> linux is fundamental.. like reading is fundamental
[04:24] <blazemonger> even though hardly anygthing works in Ubuntu i still like Ubuntu
[04:24] <cellfish> hey guys, i'd like to know how i can delete an ntfs partition in ubuntu and switch it to a linux-ready filesystem?
[04:24] <jvai> i dont know how t ouse a pc
[04:25] <blazemonger> Ubuntu works as long as you don't run any programs
[04:25] <Chadarius> cellfish: use gparted
[04:25] <rylan> jvai, last one looks like it should work.
[04:25] <kungfugoat> I think linux can be big for thin client setups
[04:25] <cellfish> chadarius: alright, i guess i should run it as an administrator because that's what i tried .. how do i run gparted as an administrator?
[04:25] <jvai> ok @ rylan... google is a wonder.. it should never go away
[04:25] <cellfish> nevermind
[04:25] <kungfugoat> it sucks that my company gives me a core duo machine with 2 gigs of ram and then lock it down so I can only check e-mail
[04:26] <Chadarius> cellfish: sudo gparted :)
[04:26] <cellfish> actually
[04:26] <cellfish> i did sudo gparted but gparted still doesn't give me the option to delete the partition
[04:26] <blazemonger> can anyone explain WHY ubuntu would be SLOW on a fast system?
[04:26] <BigMac> is there a way to turn of my touchpad on my laptop because it is interfering
[04:26] <Pelo> cellfish,  unmount it first
[04:26] <Chadarius> cellfish: You need to make sure that the partition is umounted first
[04:26] <Dante123> hi all......did a fresh install of ubuntu......updated.......ran autom@tix....and then cant login on reboot.....any ideas?  Is this what they mean when they say autom@tix "broke" my system?
[04:27] <cellfish> aaaa
[04:27] <cellfish> i thought that meant to unmount
[04:27] <cellfish> oh nevermind
[04:27] <Pelo> BigMac,  it's probably something you need to edit in xorg.conf
[04:27] <cellfish> geez i'm mixed
[04:27] <cellfish> but i mean well
[04:27] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Blaze can you do an lspci and tell me what it says about your graphics card?
[04:27] <Chankster> i keep getting this error "bash: ./sb: cannot execute binary file" on one ubuntu system but it works fine on a different system.  Any ideas?
[04:27] <riotkittie> Dante123: duuuuude. what possessed you to install automatix?
[04:28] <blazemonger> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS
[04:28] <Dante123> put it on another machine....and it added the bells and whistles I was lacking....and typing to you from that machine right now......thought it would work on the kids ubuntu machine....they want java, flash, and the codec stuff too.
[04:28] <BigMac> Another thing, I tried creating a custom laucher with opera so I could use a different icon, but if I click this icon it just loads the old opera o, but any other icon will switch
[04:29] <Dante123> so would you say that autom@tix..."broke" my install?
[04:29] <blazemonger> i've spent more time in ubuntu trying to get things working than actually USING my system for things i SHOULD be able to do like producing music and mastering audio
[04:29] <FirstStrike> haha..automatix
[04:29] <mutestreamer> does anyone know where the hotplug stuff went to on feisty?  I'm trying to get my bcm203x bluetooth dongle to work and I can't sort out where the firmware goes.
[04:30] <Dante123> FirstStrike....are you saying automatix is to blame?
[04:30] <FirstStrike> i believe we even have a disclaimer for it
[04:30] <FirstStrike> !automatix
[04:30] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:30] <jvai> wb rylan
[04:30] <rylan> jvai, haha lowtec fix, unplugged right speaker
[04:30] <blazemonger> so why would debian sid be more useable than Ubuntu?
[04:30] <blazemonger> why is Ubuntu even released if hardly any of the packages run
[04:31] <Chankster> i keep getting this error "bash: ./sb: cannot execute binary file" on one ubuntu system but it works fine on a different system.  Any ideas?
[04:31] <Dante123> is there anyway to "fix" the inability to login?
[04:31] <blazemonger> like even simple stuff
[04:31] <jvai> & u got full sound? @ rylan
[04:31] <Dante123> blazemonger what type of pc, ram, etc, are you running?
[04:31] <rylan> jvai, no not really. but atleast i can listen to sound while i figure it out
[04:31] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Have you tried the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to see if that fixes your ATI driver?
[04:31] <jvai> ooo k
[04:31] <dsquare> i downloaded a "linux demo" and i dont have any idea how to run it.. there are some .py files, some .so.3 files.. one with no extension
[04:31] <dsquare> how do u make it go lol
[04:31] <dsquare> i
[04:31] <riotkittie> Dante123: youre, imo, best off doing a total reinstall. who knows what else it's hosed.  but uhm, why cant you log in? invalid pass? no such user?
[04:31] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: There's many, many, many people that run Ubuntu without any hitches including the various packages in the repositories.
[04:32] <blazemonger> yes i have Chadarius
[04:32] <Pelo> Dante123,  the real reason that automatix is not supported here is that Canonical purposefully did not include the restricted propriatary stuff for philosophical reasons,  automatix is a seperate project and is not supported in this channel,  you can try installing the propriatary codecs and stuff using this proceedure
[04:32] <Chadarius> blazemonger: I really want to help you blaze but you are seriously just complaining... How about some productive stuff please?
[04:32] <blazemonger> FirstStrike: well why isn't it working for me?
[04:32] <Pelo> !restricted | Dante123
[04:32] <ubotu> Dante123: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:32] <Dante123> incorrect username and password......but the other users and even root dont work either....
[04:32] <blazemonger> i'm not complaining..i'm just trying to get a few things working and trying to keep ubuntu from freezing
[04:33] <blazemonger> Chadarius:would compiling a new kernel fix things?
[04:33] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Other people have very similar cards working with Ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[04:33] <jvai> ok all ty uall for help.... i gotta get home
[04:33] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: There's a lot of things that can go wrong..generally, it's something simple as well.
[04:33] <Dante123> its not me that needs to use freeformats.....its the bastard making the website that I like and want to watch who need to be converted
[04:33] <Chadarius> blazemonger: No ATI driver is built in already.
[04:33] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: and i highly doubt compiling a new kernel will do anything except waste your time
[04:33] <blazemonger> Chadarius:well all i know it's not working at all for me
[04:33] <riotkittie> Dante123: try booting into recovery mode and creating an account from there... then reboot in normal mode and see if that account works
[04:34] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: ATI has terrible linux drivers, and that's not Ubuntu or any other Linux distro's fault.
[04:34] <blazemonger> Chadarius:I have a ATI card that's no longer supported by ATI and i'm not a "modern" gamer i only like old games
[04:34] <Pelo> anyone here just gdesklets ? I have a minor issue : when I come back to my comp in the morning python uses all the available %cpu and my desklets are all white fiels on my desktop , is it just me ?
[04:34] <blazemonger> well things ran fine when i had Debian sid running
[04:34] <Pelo> anyone USE gdesklet
[04:34] <blazemonger> i thoughtt hat because ubuntu was based on debian that it would be just blazing fast like debian is
[04:34] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Doesn't matter if its not supported by ATI, it should be working fine in Linux with the open source driver
[04:35] <FirstStrike> It's "blazing fast" on my PC. Much quicker than XP.
[04:35] <Dante123> okay...will try that......this is actually the problem that happened before which is why I did a fresh install of ubuntu......unless I am getting low on HD space and that has something to do with it....which is a possibility......has anyone heard of lack of hd space causing difficulties logging in???
[04:35] <blazemonger> Chadarius: *SHOULD* that is
[04:35] <blazemonger> but the thing is..it's not
[04:35] <trollboy> blazemonger: debian was faster for me honestly
[04:35] <trollboy> I had to upgrade my ram to get ubuntu to run on this box
[04:35] <trollboy> mind you, there was only 128mb
[04:35] <trollboy> and now there's a gig
[04:35] <trollboy> but still
[04:35] <blazemonger> trollboy:why is ubuntu much slower? shouldn't 768 megabytes be enough memory?
[04:36] <riotkittie> Dante123: i dont see why it would - ive nearly depleted my diskspace and have no problem at all. as a matter of fact, the other day, i was down to < 30mb
[04:36] <blazemonger> you mean you have a gigabyte of memory and ubuntu STILL runs slow?
[04:36] <kungfugoat> that's crazy
[04:36] <trollboy> blazemonger: I only HAD 128mb
[04:36] <Dante123> anyone here run puppy linux before?
[04:36] <trollboy> Now I have a gig
[04:36] <blazemonger> man..the ubuntu developers are messed up
[04:36] <kungfugoat> I have a gigabyte of memory and ubuntu flies
[04:36] <riotkittie> hm. im running on 256MB RAM and have no issues
[04:36] <trollboy> and obviously, since I'm talking to you, it runs just fine
[04:36] <blazemonger> i'm prob just gonna go back to Debian or Gentoo or something
[04:36] <Pelo> blazemonger,  768 is enough, you might want to review what you are running , service and program wise
[04:36] <Trixsey> Is there any way to forcefully try to access a computer on the network from Ubuntu? In windows I can always do "\\Computer" in the address-bar, any equal alternative here?
[04:37] <blazemonger> the default stuff that's in ubuntu
[04:37] <FirstStrike> If you don't have the graphics drivers working properly, then it will run slow
[04:37] <blazemonger> likie right now my gnome pannels are frozen
[04:37] <Dante123> I find it runs damn fast especially on new hardware.....
[04:37] <riotkittie> dont blame the developers for the fact that there's a problem with your pc. :P
[04:37] <FirstStrike> It's never the users fault
[04:37] <Pelo> blazemonger,  is this your first install ? might want to try it again
[04:37] <blazemonger> well it's not my hardware because it works PERFECT in Debian
[04:37] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Dude seriously if you want help cool it
[04:37] <FirstStrike> It's always the developers
[04:37] <FirstStrike> blazemonger: Ubuntu isn't Debian
[04:37] <blazemonger> this is the 10th time ive installed it
[04:38] <blazemonger> Chadarius: ok.
[04:38] <blazemonger> i know but it's based on Debian supposedly
[04:38] <riotkittie> the tenth?  and its been so awful the previous NINE times that youve continued to come back?
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Rofl
[04:38] <riotkittie> call me crazy, but ... :)
[04:38] <FirstStrike> Based on Debian yes..but it's come so far since then that it's not really remotely similar to Debian anymore
[04:38] <blazemonger> i keep thinking that a reinstallation will fix it
[04:38] <kungfugoat> I use windows all day at work
[04:38] <kungfugoat> I don't want to use it at home
[04:38] <Trixsey> Is there any way to forcefully try to access a computer on the network from Ubuntu? In windows I can always do "\\Computer" in the address-bar, any equal alternative here?
[04:39] <blazemonger> It's buggier than Debian
[04:39] <Frogzoo> FirstStrike: debian has also moved with the times
[04:39] <kasper> direct rendering: No <<<<<<<<<<<<< how to solve these???
[04:39] <riotkittie> blazemonger: which release are you running  ?  edgy?
[04:39] <FirstStrike> Albeit slower..they've pushed back their next release again
[04:39] <blazemonger> debian sid is much more stable
[04:39] <Pelo> Trixsey,  I think you need to install samba to access windows machines on a network
[04:39] <blazemonger> yes..edgy..because in dapper it didn't work well either
[04:39] <shirish> hi all :)
[04:39] <blazemonger> and i reccomended Ubuntu to friend of mine that's a newbie to linux i told him it was more stable and faster than XP
[04:39] <nikin> hy. i am installing xubuntu 6.10 on a Pentium2 with a RivaTNT2 card... i tryed to install the legacy drivers, and all went fine.. the Nvidia logo shows up, but if i try to run glxinfo i get a lot of this: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:40] <shirish> thnx Pelo :P
[04:40] <kasper> direct rendering: No <<<<<<<<<<<<< how to solve these???
[04:40] <blazemonger> i get that too niikin
[04:40] <cellfish> hey guys i need some help
[04:40] <Pelo> blazemonger,  that is my experience,  it might just be your machine that is not ubuntu friendly
[04:40] <Chadarius> nikin: I'm not sure that Riva cards support that
[04:40] <cellfish> i just converted an ntfs partition to ext3, i would want it to show up in my places at bootup and be available to all users
[04:40] <cellfish> what do i do
[04:40] <blazemonger> pelo:i thought linux was linux
[04:40] <riotkittie> blazemonger: no clue what to tell you. i've got a p III 750mhz with 256mb ram and i have no problems with ubuntu's performance at all.
[04:40] <Kiongku> kasper, put the graphics card proprietary drivers
[04:40] <Pelo> kasper, try searching for your error message in the forum
[04:40] <shirish> ok guys I'm having probs. as to how to setup a network printer
[04:41] <blazemonger> you have NO problem with ubuntu performance!?
[04:41] <kasper> i am using ati
[04:41] <nikin> Chadarius: AFAIK TNT2 supports GL ...
[04:41] <oggy__> does anyone know if rain in beryl can be put into html?
[04:41] <riotkittie> blazemonger: no. :>
[04:41] <blazemonger> maybe ubuntu hates americans :(
[04:41] <FirstStrike> i'm an american
[04:41] <blazemonger> or hates Germans
[04:41] <FirstStrike> i run it just dandy on 2 desktops and 1 laptop
[04:41] <Pelo> blazemonger,  I have no problems and it does work faster then my xp on the same computer,  but I don'T realy ask much of it , I am just a basic home user
[04:41] <Kiongku> !ati
[04:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:41] <blazemonger> how do did you get it runnning fast pelo?
[04:42] <Dante123> nikin.....ever tried puppy linux.....good distro for older hardware like that
[04:42] <blazemonger> was it running fast out of the box?
[04:42] <Chadarius> nikin: ah sorry I was read aglx and you just said glx
[04:42] <riotkittie> blazemonger: yea.
[04:42] <Pelo> blazemonger,  just a basic install,  I didn't mess with anything hardware side
[04:42] <blazemonger> riot:and you promise you didn't make any modifications?
[04:42] <Chadarius> nikin: you check that the nvidia driver loaded properly?
[04:43] <nikin> Dante: yep i tried that... but i have no problems with kubuntu just this ASUS TNT2 .... nothing else... i have 256MB RAM in this PC it runs fine
[04:43] <FirstStrike> Ubuntu has always run nice and speedy for me out of the box as well. I installed ubuntu, installed my graphics drivers and that's it.
[04:43] <FirstStrike> Easy as pie
[04:43] <riotkittie> blazemonger: no, i didnt tweak anything.
[04:43] <nikin> Chadarius: how to do that?
[04:43] <shirish> Ist's this post which I've posted on ubuntuforums also http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361845 can somebody help?
[04:43] <blazemonger> FirstStrike:i have a ancient graphics card though that's not supported by anything
[04:43] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues
[04:43] <Pelo> blazemonger,  what does the system monitor tell you ?
[04:43] <FirstStrike> I've installed it on a P4 with a Geforce 5600, AMD with a Geforce 6800 and Intel core duo with an ATI Mobility graphics card
[04:43] <FirstStrike> And no hitches
[04:43] <blazemonger> system monitor?
[04:44] <FirstStrike> Dell Ultrasharp
[04:44] <Chadarius> nikin: open terminal and type lsmod |grep
[04:44] <riotkittie> in gnome ... probably on system > admin menu
[04:44] <blazemonger> i dont see the system monitor in any of the menus
[04:44] <Pelo> blazemonger,  menu > system > admin > system monitor
[04:44] <shirish> guys can somebody help me, plz. :(
[04:44] <FirstStrike> Buy a newer graphics card..you can get a Geforce 5xxx series for like $40 these days
[04:44] <Pelo> blazemonger,  what every it is in english that tells you the memory cup usage
[04:45] <nikin> Chadarius: yep it is loaded...
[04:45] <Pelo> shirish,  we won'T help you if you don't tell us what is wrong
[04:45] <blazemonger> when i boot into ubuntu it freezes because i selected the molecule screensaver
[04:45] <blazemonger> another problem i didnt have
[04:45] <shirish> I want to install a network printer LaserJet 2600n on ubuntu & don't know how to set it up
[04:45] <nikin> extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:45] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues. i get a screeching noise from my right audio channel. i think it has something to do with my soundcard as when i try to mute/turn down any line in or mic stuff the sound cuts out.
[04:45] <nikin> sry
[04:46] <Chadarius> blazemonger: screensaver keeps it from booting properly? your screensaver loads immediately?
[04:46] <blazemonger> yah
[04:46] <eckmaster> i have a question concerning the linux-headers
[04:46] <Pelo> shirish,  you might find something for that here http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[04:46] <blazemonger> i was going through screensavers and it froze my system
[04:46] <blazemonger> i dont know what's going wrong with this
[04:46] <blazemonger> maybe i should try fiesty
[04:47] <Lucifel> Which options do I need to add to my fstab entry to make a disk mountable and writable by other users?
[04:47] <Music_Shuffle> Night Pelo
[04:47] <blazemonger> and my mouse cursor turns bladck too
[04:47] <Chadarius> blazemonger: OK well that is because there is something wrong with your video driver... until that is fixed I think you should expect those problems eh?
[04:47] <blazemonger> i have the video driver that came with Ubuntu
[04:47] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues. i get a screeching noise from my right audio channel. i think it has something to do with my soundcard as when i try to mute/turn down any line in or mic stuff the sound cuts out untill i reboot. PLEASE HELP.
[04:47] <blazemonger> and the video drivers are the same on ubuntu as it is on debian sid
[04:48] <riotkittie> k, while i'm here, i need input - my laptop has an 11.2GB internal drive (i am multibooting Win2k, Dapper, and Zenwalk, and have the obligatory /swap, along with a FAT32 dumping ground... and space is tight). I had a 400GB external delivered today, but my laptop is ancient and does not support booting from USB.
[04:48] <shirish> looking up the thread now Pelo :)
[04:48] <blazemonger> another thing is i can't acces the function in my bios where i can disable acpi
[04:49] <riotkittie> Can I put a /boot partition on the internal, and have a point it at an install on the external?
[04:49] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Your xorg.conf file might have something messed up with it pehaps? Did you change anything? You have any 3d stuff installed like Beryl or anything?
[04:49] <cellfish> nevermind i figured out fstab
[04:49] <cellfish> lol
[04:49] <cellfish> i love this
[04:49] <eckmaster> when I use kubuntu x86 should I use the linux-headers for the i386 architecture instead of the generic
[04:49] <blazemonger> nope i don't have beryl installed
[04:49] <Chadarius> blazemonger: have you thought of comaring xorg.conf files with Debian install?
[04:49] <blazemonger> i just want the packages to work..even simple things like gnome-art freeze
[04:49] <blazemonger> i dont know what it could be
[04:50] <blazemonger> they're both the same
[04:50] <rylan> Hey all, i need some help figuring out some sound issues. i get a screeching noise from my right audio channel. i think it has something to do with my soundcard as when i try to mute/turn down any line in or mic stuff the sound cuts out untill i reboot. PLEASE HELP.
[04:50] <Chadarius> blazemonger: All your freezes are probably all related to your driver issue
[04:50] <blazemonger> rylan:try Debian
[04:50] <blazemonger> Chadarius:well there's no other video driver for my card
[04:50] <eckmaster> can someboy HELP ME???
[04:50] <rylan> blazemonger, i would rather fix the problem than start all over
[04:51] <blazemonger> and when i installed kubuntu-desktop it gave me defoma font warnings like fonts that were missing
[04:51] <blazemonger> it's like ubuntu has gone downhill
[04:51] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Have a nice day blaze. I'm done helping you for today. Come back when you are willing to try to be civil and not degrade the chat :)
[04:51] <Madpilot> eckmaster, which kernel you use will depend on which CPU you have - AMD or Intel? Generic works OK with everything, though
[04:51] <rylan> Chadarius, could you help me figure out my sound issues?
[04:51] <riotkittie> errr. any chance you installed from a disc that was, at best, FUBAR?  did you check it? test the md5?
[04:52] <blazemonger> i'm not trying to degrade things..i'm just frustrated that ive spent more time dealing with broken stuff than using my system..ive thought about going back to windows
[04:52] <blazemonger> where things actually work
[04:52] <Chadarius> blazemonger: Take your own advice and use Debian
[04:52] <blazemonger> or trying out suse
[04:52] <m0xie_> Then go back to Windows, and check back every so often.  The most important rule is to use what works for you!
[04:52] <blazemonger> Chadarius:debian?
[04:52] <eckmaster> @ Madpilot I have an core2duo>intel
[04:52] <Music_Shuffle> 'Going back to Windows' does not constitute a valid threat in here. Sorry.
[04:52] <rylan> blaze, enjoy the challenge of fixing things.
[04:53] <Chadarius> rylan: What is your sound problem?
[04:53] <Kilroy> blaze, maybe u should just stick to your ti 83+
[04:53] <Chadarius> rylan: I'm not much of a Linux sound guy but I'll try my best
[04:53] <blazemonger> im the linux sound guy
[04:53] <blazemonger> dynebolic is good for mus. production
[04:53] <Madpilot> eckmaster, generic will work fine, or the Intel-tweaked kernel (686, I guess? I run AMD, I'm not up to speed on the Intel/Linux stuff)
[04:54] <riotkittie> someone answer my stupid question :P
[04:54] <rylan> Chadarius, well, i get a screeching high pitched noise coming from my right audio channel, messing with the "line in" component for some reason causes all sound to stop untill i reboot.
[04:54] <riotkittie> me mentally '!patience's herself
[04:54] <blazemonger> rylan:well i' not the only one where ubuntu has been terribly slow
[04:54] <blazemonger> i read where one person had ubuntu on even a top of the line setup
[04:54] <rylan> Chadarius, i think it has something do to drivers.
[04:54] <blazemonger> and it was extremely slow
[04:54] <eckmaster> thanx
[04:54] <Kilroy> blaze it has to do with drivers
[04:55] <blazemonger> well if you can find some drivers for my rage 128 card i'll install them
[04:55] <rylan> blazemonger, then find something that does work for you. i suppose thats whats important
[04:55] <blazemonger> because I have searched
[04:55] <shirish> guys tht was a big thread but it doesn't answer my query
[04:55] <Chadarius> rylan: doesn't sound like feedback to you?
[04:55] <Kilroy> blaze: google ati drivers for ubuntu
[04:55] <shirish> my query is this
[04:55] <blazemonger> Kilroy:wouldn't the drivers in debian and ubuntu be the same drivers?
[04:55] <blazemonger> what about building a new kernel
[04:55] <rylan> Chadarius, no, it littlerally is a high pitched noise, constant.
[04:56] <blazemonger> killermach:i have said: I have a *ancient* ATI *RAGE* 128 not a RADEON which is supported by ATI
[04:56] <Chadarius> rylan: OK have you searched the forums or wiki yet?
[04:56] <shirish> I have set up ubuntu 6.06 at a friend's place, he has a laserjet 2600n on the network with an address 192.168.1.15 & wants to use it to print through Ubuntu, my question is how do I go about doing it?
[04:56] <rylan> Chadarius, i tried, but to no avail. linux terminology is a bit above me,
[04:56] <blazemonger> i've searched google and i tried the fglrx drivers and it messed everything up because it didnt work with my specific ATI card
[04:56] <blazemonger> if i had a Radeon th ings would probably work
[04:56] <shirish> he is able to print through all the windows machines effortlessely
[04:56] <rylan> Chadarius, this is the 4th day of my using linux.
[04:57] <rylan> Chadarius, i found this page, that looks like it could help. but i dont understand it. http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel
[04:57] <shirish> can anyone help me?
[04:57] <riotkittie> shirish: does the printer have linux support ?
[04:57] <shirish> supposedly yes
[04:57] <rylan> Chadarius, also this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:57] <blazemonger> my card is supported by linux itself
[04:57] <rylan> Chadarius, i was trying to find new soundcard drivers
[04:58] <Chadarius> rylan: Cool let me read it real quick
[04:58] <shirish> this is the 1st time i'll be trying out network printing on ubuntu
[04:58] <riotkittie> shirish: is he using GNOME? has he tried letting GNOME's printer thingamajiggee detect network printerS?
[04:58] <witless> is it possible to rip just the audio from an AVI file?
[04:58] <blazemonger> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3940
[04:58] <rylan> Chadarius, thanks. i also read that the AC97 codec could fix my problem but i couldnt figure out how to install it.
[04:58] <bruenig> witless, using avidemux you can
[04:58] <riotkittie> brb
[04:58] <Kilroy> when u say just audio u mean plit it from video?
[04:58] <ReKlipz> anyone know where i can get help with beryl?
[04:58] <witless> bruenig: thanks
[04:58] <ReKlipz> !beryl
[04:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:59] <blazemonger> there are not any third party drivers for my video card or alternatve drivers
[04:59] <blazemonger> ubotu:i can't use Beryl..no one willl support a rage 128 card
[04:59] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: have you seen this page already? : http://casa.che-che.com/blog/2005/11/16/helping-linux-printer-driver-for-hp-2600n/
[04:59] <Kilroy> then use compiz...
[04:59] <rylan> blazemonger, why not just get a new one? they are pretty cheap.
[04:59] <shirish> riotkittie : he is using GNOME? Do u mean System > Administration > Printing or something else
[05:00] <bruenig> witless, http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Save_only_audio
[05:00] <Kilroy> anyone know anything about gfire?
[05:00] <blazemonger> rylan:my pc was built for free
[05:00] <noodles12> is explore2fs a better way to view ext3 from windows than that other one? (i forogt the name... >.<)
[05:00] <blazemonger> cuz i couldn't afford a upgrade when i had my pentium 2
[05:00] <bruenig> fs-driver
[05:00] <Kilroy> blaze....get a job
[05:01] <Chadarius> rylan: what happens when you run aplay -i? Does it list your sound card there?
[05:01] <blazemonger> Kilroy:i would but i live in the middle of nowhere
[05:01] <rylan> Chadarius, it does.
[05:01] <Chadarius> rylan: What does it say it is?
[05:01] <shirish> MikesHardLinux I didn't see tht one but foo2hp  is there in the database, I think I'm messing things up hence need a correct way of doing things
[05:01] <noodles12> bruenig: is that what you use?
[05:01] <blazemonger> i have a radeon card but i dont know how to install it
[05:01] <Lucifel> What fstab option do I need to add to an ext3 volume line to make it writable by non-root users?
[05:01] <blazemonger> i suck with hardware
[05:01] <Eroick> how could ubuntu be setup so that the login screen takes the username and pasword and logs into a server. thin client style. ?
[05:01] <bruenig> noodles12, that is the one I see recommended all the time and I have never heard anyone complain that it didn't work, never heard of that other one
[05:02] <cellfish> dammit i added the following: '/dev/sdb1       /media/goliath  ext3    defaults	0	0' to my fstab and restarted but for whatever reason, i still can't write to an ext3 partition as a user
[05:02] <blazemonger> and the pc shop here wants to charge $100 for installing a video card
[05:02] <rylan> Chadarius, it says it is an intel
[05:02] <Eroick> blazemonger: total ripoff
[05:02] <blazemonger> i kno
[05:02] <bruenig> ultimately since the filesystem is open and the thing you add has specifications on how to add it from windows, I am sure that they would both work as that combination would seemingly make it easy to implement this
[05:02] <Eroick> blazemonger: all that has to be done hardware side is open the case, take out old card, pop in new card
[05:02] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I didn't see tht one but foo2hp is there in the database, I think I'm messing things up hence need a correct way of doing things
[05:02] <blazemonger> i'm 6'" have gigantic hands and my body releases static energy
[05:02] <blazemonger> even if i ground myself
[05:03] <Eroick> blazemonger: ask a friend? :P
[05:03] <Chadarius> rylan: Have you tried running alsamixer to adjust settings or anything?
[05:03] <Lucifel> cellfish that's about where I'm at too, let me know if you come up with the solution
[05:03] <blazemonger> ero:he lives 2 hours away
[05:03] <noodles12> bruenig: that's the other one! i've only talked to one person and he said he had problems with it. =/ but if you've never heard of the one i posted. not sure if it's safe
[05:03] <blazemonger> the person that built my computer for me
[05:03] <Chadarius> rylan: The Intel cards are usually pretty well supported so I don't think its a driver problem
[05:03] <blazemonger> one time i tried building my own system and i fried the motherboard
[05:03] <blazemonger> just by putting in a video card
[05:03] <MikesHardLinux> shirish. by database, do you mean in Synaptic? You do have it installed?
[05:03] <Eroick> blazemonger: the static thing is odd. i have done lots of hardware stuff never grounding my self and I have never had any problems.
[05:03] <rylan> Chadarius, i did, when i touch the line in, mic, or cd audio, the sound cuts out till i reboot.
[05:04] <shirish> Lemme explain
[05:04] <blazemonger> ero:well me and hardware is a wierd situation..i can make a computer fry just with my brain
[05:04] <Chadarius> rylan: Call me crazy but I think its just feedback
[05:04] <rylan> cant be. that speaker worked fine in Win xp
[05:04] <kungfugoat> what the??
[05:04] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I tried first by going through System > Administration > Printing
[05:04] <bruenig> !hi | kungfugoat
[05:04] <ubotu> kungfugoat: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:04] <rylan> Chadarius, and besides, there is nothing nearby that could give it feedback,
[05:04] <blazemonger> i've messed up a pc by connecting a USB cable
[05:05] <blazemonger> i know how to code in assembly blindfolded
[05:05] <Chadarius> rylan: This on a laptop?
[05:05] <kungfugoat> I had fglrx installed prefectly last night and now it's fglrxinfo is showing the Mesa GLX message
[05:05] <rylan> Chadarius, unless linux has some funky voodoo
[05:05] <rylan> Chadarius, nope a desktop
[05:05] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: Add New Printer > Network Printer > HP JetDirect
[05:05] <blazemonger> i know HOW to install hardware but when my body touches a card it fries
[05:05] <blazemonger> where's linux for space aliens
[05:05] <Chadarius> rylan: You have a microphone attached to it anywhere?
[05:05] <Rohinton> Eroick: You've been luck with static... :-)
[05:05] <Kilroy> slave out your little brother
[05:06] <blazemonger> kilroy:do you know how to instal a video card?
[05:06] <blazemonger> without frying a motherboard?
[05:06] <Kilroy> yes@!
[05:06] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: then here it asks me Host name & gives a default 1900 or 9100 port no., i'm stumped what to give here?
[05:06] <blazemonger> i have a dead motherboard when i tried to install a video card
[05:06] <Madpilot> blazemonger, how about Linux for Things That Eat Human Souls? http://www.warbard.ca/temp/CthulhubuntuLogo.png
[05:06] <rylan> Chadarius, there is one beneath my monitor but its not plugged in. and besides, havent moved anything since win-xp so feedback cant really be it.
[05:06] <killermach> blazemonger: I have a Sony PCG-V505DC2P, and lshw says "ATI Technologies, Radeon Mobility M6 LY 128MB" and I haven't succeeded in getting openGL to work
[05:07] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: the default port 9100 should work. for the host, do you know the correct IP address of the printer?
[05:07] <rylan> Chadarius, thing is, im using an ASUS motherboard with onboard sound, so i highly doubt that it is infact an intel soundcard strapped to it.
[05:07] <blazemonger> my rage 128 is supposed to have 128 megabytes of memory.it's a all in wonder card
[05:07] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: yup its 192.168.1.15
[05:07] <bayziders> Idk if this is the correct place to ask this but I am not geting much help in other rooms. I need to foward a few ports for xbox live and my torrent client. However my ip is dynamic and it changes every time i load a page or do any thing so when I foward the ports(the nat is built into my modem) it doesn't really do any thing. Can some one help me out? Oh and when I setup a static ip using directions from the port fowarding site i
[05:07] <blazemonger> and i cant find any tv out software that works
[05:07] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: tht is the info. I need to enter into Host?
[05:07] <MikesHardLinux> yes
[05:07] <FirstStrike> bayziders: This is the Ubuntu support channel, not the xbox live support channel.
[05:07] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: yes :-)
[05:07] <rylan> Chadarius, cheap chinese hardware, chances are its "similar" to an intel. and ubuntu is mistaking it as intel
[05:08] <bayziders> I just mentioned live.
[05:08] <Chadarius> rylan: You would be surprised :)
[05:08] <bayziders> It has to do with port fowarding
[05:08] <rylan> Chadarius, as would you, china is a pretty messed up place, i live in shanghai. they dont make anything well here.
[05:08] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool, I did try tht before also then it gives me a drop-down box of the Manufacturers lists & HP is listed there
[05:08] <crimsun> rylan: HDA Intel is the moniker for the specification. It has no bearing on the actual codec manufacturer. See ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' for that.
[05:09] <FirstStrike> bayziders: Again, we support Ubuntu here..not your network setup, your xbox live or whether or not the sky is blue.
[05:09] <rylan> slow down, what exactly do i type into the terminal
[05:09] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: one thing I don't remember is if you enter 192.168.1.15 or if it's \\192.168.1.15
[05:09] <crimsun> rylan: the command between the `` and ''
[05:10] <rylan> chadarius, got it
[05:10] <Eroick> Rohinton: well, i touch some metal if i remember to or w/e
[05:10] <bayziders> im running ubuntu. ;O
[05:10] <nowimproved> im getting these weird problems with mplayer X11 error: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied
[05:10] <crimsun> most Asus boards w/ HDA are powered by Realtek codecs
[05:10] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: checking HP I do get LaserJet 2600n  & it is foo2hp as the driver. Mikes will also try out the \\192.168.1.15 also
[05:10] <nowimproved> i have tried everything and been looking for a solution for this problem for month
[05:10] <nowimproved> it is fixed after i restart x
[05:10] <nowimproved>  and i have the latest nvidia drivers
[05:10] <wheels3572> archangelpetro, How do I configure this so this uses my firefox browser i get this error:  Could not run "shortcuts program" Failed to execute child process "index" (No such file or directory)
[05:10] <Eroick> is it possable to have the gdm login screen take the username and password but use it to login to a server?
[05:11] <Eroick> like Novell for Windows (shudder)
[05:11] <kungfugoat> anybody else having problem with fglrx and DRI?
[05:11] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: then it asks for Description & Location , again what do I enter here?
[05:11] <kungfugoat> I followed the binary howto to the letter and I still can't get it to stick
[05:11] <rylan> Chadarius, Mixers:                    0: analog devices AD1986A
[05:11] <grao> does anyone know if perl is in the apt repository?
[05:11] <rylan> Chadarius, by the way, im running edgy
[05:12] <crimsun> rylan: are you using hg alsa-driver? If not, you need to be.
[05:12] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: u there?
[05:12] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: ya, sorry. am researching this at the same time :-)
[05:12] <rylan> crimsun, how do i check?
[05:13] <crimsun> rylan: cat /proc/asound/version
[05:13] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok sorry
[05:13] <crimsun> i.e., if you don't know, you're not.
[05:13] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i don't remember this for sure either, but it seems like those last 2 aren't important - just a description for you to see IIRC
[05:13] <killermach> blazemonger: I'm sure mine must bleed from the system RAM, being a laptop and all
[05:13] <blazemonger> does anyone have accxess to better rage 128 drivers than the ones that came with ubuntu
[05:13] <rylan> crimsun, ALSA driver 1.0.12rcl
[05:13] <grao> can you get perl fom the apt repository?
[05:13] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool so its basically like a statement or comment
[05:14] <crimsun> rylan: right, you're not.
[05:14] <Madpilot> grao, yes
[05:14] <rylan> crimsun, so how do i get the HG one
[05:14] <MikesHardLinux> shirish. yup. pretty sure, well 50/50 hehe
[05:14] <crimsun> rylan: follow the instructions on the wiki for compiling from hg
[05:14] <grao> Madpilot: Do you know the exact command?
[05:14] <wheels3572> can anyone show me how to point a file to use firefox in my launcher?
[05:14] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: apart from trying //192.168.1.15 everything else is same, but I dont get the printer to spit out a test page
[05:14] <blazemonger> should i try to build a new kernel?
[05:14] <rylan> crimsun, this is my 4th day using anything close to linux, dumb that down a bit for me
[05:14] <Madpilot> grao, it might be installed by default, but either way, search Synaptic for it
[05:15] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: Is there anything more to be done or tht's it?
[05:15] <blazemonger> since obviously it seems like a kernel problem
[05:15] <blazemonger> if all of these packages won't run
[05:15] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: on that link I posted, near the bottom, someone posted a couple of commands to see if you can send something to the printer. you may want to try that first
[05:15] <crimsun> rylan: there's a how-to on the wiki for compiling alsa-driver; search for it, and you're bound to find it.
[05:15] <grao> ITs a server, would it be automatically installed?
[05:15] <grao> Because i cant find it on my server
[05:15] <grao> would it be in /etc/init.d/?
[05:15] <crimsun> rylan: it may link to a version in the forum
[05:15] <rylan> crimsun, ill try
[05:15] <blazemonger> flightgear wont even work in ubuntu
[05:15] <Chadarius> rylan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto?highlight=%28hda%29
[05:15] <blazemonger> it's like windows is faster than linux
[05:16] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: look for a post by "Juan Jose Pablos" : http://casa.che-che.com/blog/2005/11/16/helping-linux-printer-driver-for-hp-2600n/
[05:16] <Chadarius> rylan: hmmm that one might be a little old though
[05:16] <riotkittie> wee. i found the info i needed. now i'm frightened.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  you using the fglrx drivers or the ati drivers?
[05:16] <blazemonger> the ati drivers
[05:17] <blazemonger> i tried the fglrx drivers thinking it would work with my rage chipset
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Thats a somewhat old card then eh?
[05:17] <blazemonger> god i miss my amiga
[05:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, enter | blazemonger
[05:17] <ubotu> blazemonger: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:17] <blazemonger> yes dr0ne
[05:17] <shirish> MikesHardLinux : you mean these 2 commands  foo2hp2600-wrapper testpage.ps > testpage.zjs
[05:17] <shirish> netcat xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 9100 ?
[05:17] <blazemonger> dr.willis...i have a ancient card
[05:17] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: yes
[05:17] <blazemonger> and i want to show off Ubuntu to a friend
[05:17] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  icky. so the fglrx drivers dont work eh.
[05:17] <rylan> Chadarius, that sounds to be exacty my problem, thanks
[05:18] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok tht one is also written down & what should I expect in the command line?
[05:18] <blazemonger> and he4's saying ubuntu sucks because it won't run anything
[05:18] <blazemonger> and he's now saying theres no working software
[05:18] <grao> Madpilot: What is the command for getting perl from apt because its not on my server
[05:18] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  reach back.. and smack him hard.
[05:18] <grao> Im pretty damn sure
[05:18] <Dr_willis> then tell him to grow up.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:18] <riotkittie> err. should i suck it up and just buy an internal? :/
[05:18] <ctford> has anyone had issues with firefox not loading file types into plugins that it's supposed to?
[05:18] <Madpilot> grao, let me check - just a sec
[05:18] <blazemonger> Dr_willis:should i build my own kernel?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> if ati does not want to support their hardware fully under linux - theres not a lot that can be done with it.
[05:18] <blazemonger> do you think that would make things work a bit better/more stable?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  whats that supposed to accompilsh? not much i am guessing
[05:19] <newest007> hey there my system just crashed and rebooted from the splash screen, i checked the KSystemLog, and it gave me this: Internal error: memory corruption detected,  how do i go about fixing this?
[05:19] <blazemonger> Dr_willis:well less resource use
[05:19] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I doubt you'll get any response at the command line, unless there's an error. also, you'll need something to use as the testpage
[05:19] <blazemonger> more tweaks
[05:19] <blazemonger> maybe that SHOULD fix things
[05:19] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  you got the windows mentality going. :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  looking for magic answers.
[05:19] <kungfugoat> Dr_willis: I've long ago stopped blaming the developers
[05:19] <grao> What is the command for apt-get , i need perl
[05:19] <Dr_willis> "hate the game not the players" :)
[05:20] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: so maybe I make a 2 line some .txt file tht should do it :)
[05:20] <blazemonger> and maybe the default kernel options in ubuntu has things disabled or alot added to it that debian doesnt
[05:20] <kungfugoat> I just wish I could boycott both ATI and everybody else
[05:20] <jay> how can i make kiba-dock items always stay in place when the return intstead of hanging outside... if u kno what I mean. They don't make one line, other icons just hang off
[05:20] <Madpilot> grao, "sudo aptitude install perl" should work
[05:20] <kungfugoat> but the thing is in my laptop
[05:20] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: but then how would the command be modified?
[05:20] <blazemonger> like everything that works in debian won't work in ubuntu
[05:20] <Chadarius> Dr_willis: deja vu with blaze... He's been doing the same talk for over an hour man
[05:20] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  you are bascially 'guessing' at this arent you...
[05:20] <blazemonger> i am extremely confused on why
[05:20] <grao> Kudos madpilot, i got root inabled though so no need for sudo
[05:20] <rylan> Chadarius, "couldn't find package build"
[05:20] <blazemonger> Dr_willis yah..since thyere's no official answers and i've filed bug reports on all the packages that wont run
[05:20] <Chadarius> Dr_willis: I /ignored him a while ago
[05:20] <blazemonger> i've filed opver 50 bug reports like the gnome pannel freezing
[05:21] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I am doing a "man foo2hp2600-wrapper" and it looks like you might need to have a .ps file. still checking
[05:21] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  i would like to see proof of that statement also..   but since ive gotten rid of my ati cards.. good luck.
[05:21] <newest007> hey there my system just crashed and rebooted from the splash screen, i checked the KSystemLog, and it gave me this: Internal error: memory corruption detected,  how do i go about fixing this?
[05:21] <kungfugoat> anybody want to buy a laptop?
[05:21] <kungfugoat> before I throw it out the window?
[05:21] <blazemonger> Dr_willis:is ubuntu supposed to be crashing?
[05:21] <Vilhelms> I've heard people talk about a script called Xgame for running OpenGL Apps while in Xgl mode but can't seem to find it. Where could I look for a Howto or something similar on using Xgame?
[05:21] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: that command will just make sure your computer can actually see and access the printer, in case there's a hardware/cable/network problem
[05:21] <grao> I can give you the name of someone who might want to buy it
[05:22] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  prove it, trouble shoot it.. make it repeatable.. then file a bug report.. it never crashes on me.. so it may be PEBKAC
[05:22] <Chadarius> rylan: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:22] <blazemonger> i've tried to troubleshoot it
[05:22] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok lemme know, thnx for helping me out :)
[05:22] <blazemonger> PEBKAC?
[05:22] <CorpseFeeder> I was in the middle of downloading stuff, and my ethernet connection just went dead. And now I can only make it work if I assign it a static IP - DHCP is no longer assigning an IP address to my eth0.... What's up with that? Is this normal?
[05:22] <blazemonger> i've never got replies on the bug reports i've filed
[05:23] <blazemonger> not even a simple 'ubuntu hates you'
[05:23] <Madpilot> blazemonger, are they good, technical bug reports, or "OMG Ubuntu is borken!!!!!11111oneoneone"?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Madpilot,  i wasent going to go there.. :)
[05:23] <crimsun> we don't look at bug reports that don't have pony attachments.
[05:23] <rylan> Chadarius, im on edgy, though regretting it.
[05:23] <xenos76> Can someone help me set up the latest version of flash player for the latest version of Ubuntu?
[05:23] <blazemonger> even blag works on my system
[05:24] <blazemonger> ubuntu is the only one that's not working
[05:24] <blazemonger> properly
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ubuntu must hate you then.
[05:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, flash9 | xenos76
[05:24] <ubotu> xenos76: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:24] <blazemonger> i dont see why ubuntu would hate me since i like ubuntu
[05:24] <xenos76> !backports
[05:24] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:24] <blazemonger> iv never said bad things about it ive always said great things about it
[05:25] <dsquare> how do i upgrade to edgy eft please?
[05:26] <bruenig> !upgrade | dsquare
[05:26] <ubotu> dsquare: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:26] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: so what should I give as a testpage because unless I don't have a test-page I don't know whether it's working or not?
[05:26] <dsquare> thx bruenig!!
[05:26] <blazemonger> like flightgear works in debian but it wont in ubuntu
[05:26] <bruenig> !thanks | dsquare
[05:26] <ubotu> dsquare: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:26] <rylan> Chadarius, that website looks like it's working now. i had a typo. what does it mean by "linux-headers- 'uname -r'  "
[05:26] <xenos76> !flash
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:26] <blazemonger> ubuntu neeeds to fix it's rage 128 drivers
[05:26] <bruenig> for those 2 people that use that card, yep
[05:27] <Chadarius> rylan: ah that is to download the headers for your version of the linux kernel
[05:27] <Chadarius> rylan: if you type uname -r in a terminal it gives you the kernel version
[05:27] <rylan> Chadarius, so type it in exactly that way?
[05:27] <grao> Who in here runs opensysco or smoothwall
[05:27] <crimsun> blazemonger: which bug reports are you referring to wrt rage 128?
[05:27] <bruenig> rylan, it means linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:27] <CorpseFeeder> Is it normal for ethernet to just drop out dead for no apparent reason in Ubuntu? What's up with my ethernet not accepting DHCP anymore? Has it shat itself? Am I doomed to be confined to static IP now?
[05:28] <bruenig> rylan, the ` is at the top left above tab and to the left of 1, it is not
[05:28] <bruenig> '
[05:28] <Chadarius> rylan: yeah in fact cut and paste is better you have to get the right ` around uname -r to make it work properly
[05:28] <ghostkernel> how come my internet connection with ubuntu is real slow? its very fast with mandrake
[05:28] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: if you have a vector editing program installed like Scribus or Inkscape, you can save to a .ps. Other programs will do that, too.
[05:28] <crimsun> ghostkernel: you're not pedaling fast enough.
[05:28] <rylan> bruenig, thanks
[05:28] <ghostkernel> crimsun what do you mean by that?
[05:28] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool, can install either one no issues, what I meant was will then the command be something like :-
[05:29] <crimsun> ghostkernel: it's a tongue-in-cheek response to a contextless question.
[05:29] <knovak> where can I get / how can I add new screen savers to gnome-screensaver?
[05:29] <blazemonger> crimson: example: gnome pannel freezes
[05:29] <jbruckman> does anyone know of a linux editor that works about the same as frontpage(but of course better)?
[05:29] <blazemonger> out of nowhere
[05:29] <crimsun> blazemonger: that's not necessarily the video driver's fault.
[05:29] <Chadarius> jbruckman: NVU is nice if you want WYSIWYG
[05:29] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I just found this. might be the simplest answer: http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/ubuntu/
[05:29] <rylan> Chadarius, looks like my headers are up to date,
[05:30] <blazemonger> crimsun:isn't ubuntu stable though?
[05:30] <bruenig> blazemonger, edgy is edgy
[05:30] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: foo2hp2600-wrapper shirish.ps > shirish.zjs with 'shirish' being the name of the *.ps, ok looking tht one also
[05:30] <jbruckman> Chadarius: I need something that will let me log into the server and upload it from my home computer
[05:30] <Chadarius> rylan: good... you just need them to be able to compile stuff :)
[05:30] <blazemonger> if it's stable why are things freezing
[05:30] <julz> ubuntu-es
[05:30] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I believe that is right
[05:30] <crimsun> blazemonger: just because it's marked stable doesn't mean that things will always work correctly.
[05:30] <linuxrockz> hi all can some one tell why my sound ongames sometime works and then not work ?
[05:30] <Vilhelms> I've heard people talk about a script called Xgame for running OpenGL Apps while in Xgl mode but can't seem to find it. Where could I look for a Howto or something similar on using Xgame?
[05:30] <rylan> Chadarius, thats useful. so next step here, i need the latest version of alsa,
[05:30] <Chadarius> jbruckman: Yeah I'm pretty sure that NVU has site management stuff like that
[05:30] <blazemonger> crimsuN:do you have r128 card?
[05:31] <crimsun> blazemonger: no
[05:31] <ghostkernel> is there a way i could speed up my connection in ubuntu 6.10,i using dsl and the internet goes real slow like if i were using dial up
[05:31] <FirstStrike> Vilhelms: Google.com
[05:31] <juancamilo> hi all
[05:31] <bruenig> !hi | juancamilo
[05:31] <ubotu> juancamilo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:31] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool, will try tht one tonight, least to say it has been educative & nice knowing you
[05:31] <blazemonger> what is the ideal Ubuntu setup then?
[05:31] <jbruckman> Chadarius: ok. i downloaded NVU, but i haven't played around with it. I also got quanta and bluefish. I was waiting to hear some input before i started learning one.
[05:31] <blazemonger> for a desktop
[05:31] <Spo8> Hi everyone.  i was wondering if i could get some help with partitioning and the install.
[05:31] <rylan> Chadarius, that looks pretty complicated on the website. any chance there is an easier/automated way?
[05:31] <jbruckman> Chadarius: thanks!
[05:31] <juancamilo> does anyone knows how to list display properties
[05:32] <juancamilo> i need my display adress
[05:32] <Madpilot> FirstStrike, please don't tell people here to JFGI...
[05:32] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: good luck. don't forget those 2 commands. you might need to to troubleshoot some more. there could be something else wrong, like a cable or whatever.
[05:32] <ghostkernel>  is there a way i could speed up my connection in ubuntu 6.10,i using dsl and the internet goes real slow like if i were using dial up
[05:32] <FirstStrike> Madpilot: He asked where he could look for info about it :P
[05:32] <Vilhelms> FirstStrike, I've tried... google, ubuntuforums, and the beryl forums
[05:32] <Chadarius> rylan: Its not that bad once you get through it... that howto is well documented. It might seem like gibberish to you but this is the common way to compile drivers in Linux :)
[05:32] <loupgaroublond> hi, i can't get postgresql to install in edgy, it gives me ssl errors
[05:33] <Madpilot> FirstStrike, yes, and you were not really helpful
[05:33] <Chadarius> rylan: This will be old hat to you in a few months :)
[05:33] <loupgaroublond> |aka:  * The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output:
[05:33] <loupgaroublond> |2007-02-14 23:31:19 EST LOG:  could not load root certificate file "root.crt": no SSL error reported
[05:33] <Spo8> okay so anyway, i created two partitions from my main win xp hard drive, one 18gb for the root install, then a 1gb for the swap (still not sure why it's needed), but anyway, during the installation when i select "/" for the big one and "swap" for the small, it says "no rood directory"
[05:33] <rylan> ok, so goto the website and manually download the drivers?
[05:33] <blazemonger> for example:in debian sid flightgear runs fine but in ubuntu flightgear won't run.and i would love to run ubungtu since it's ALOT better
[05:33] <rylan> chadarius, ok, so goto the website and manually download the drivers?
[05:33] <bruenig> !info postgresql
[05:33] <ubotu> postgresql: object-relational SQL database management system (transitional). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.21 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[05:33] <Chadarius> rylan: Yeah just follow those links
[05:33] <rylan> chadarius,then type in that stuff.
[05:33] <kungfugoat> maybe someone can help me troubleshoot fglrx
[05:33] <kungfugoat> I have my xorg log file pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5873/
[05:33] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:just don't try it on a rage chipset
[05:34] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: I have a radeon mobility x1400
[05:34] <bruenig> Spo8, if you are setting one as mounting at / then that should be the root
[05:34] <kungfugoat> fglrx is being loaded but something is getting screwed up with DRI
[05:34] <bruenig> make sure you are formatting that partition
[05:34] <Mixx> I used dd to copy my Edgy install from a 36 GB partition to a 78 GB partition on another disk.  I've reinstalled GRUB and modified /etc/fstab.  However when I use df (or when mythtv discovers free space) it only sees 36GB as being the total space.  Any idea how to fix?
[05:34] <blazemonger> Ubuntu includes more than 16,000 pieces of software, but the core
[05:34] <juancamilo> im getting this error when trying to open kwrite: cannot connect to x server
[05:34] <Chadarius> rylan: find the file names that are listed below the links with the "sudo tar" statements
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  use parted/qtparted/gparted - to resize the drive/partition.
[05:35] <Spo8> oh, i formatted it before the install with partitionMagic, should I be formatting it again when selecting the root?
[05:35] <blazemonger> but only 5% of the software works
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  use it from a live cd..
[05:35] <Mixx> Dr_willis qtparted shows the partition as being 76 GB
[05:35] <bruenig> blazemonger, believe me, your problems are localized to you, not the community as a whole
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  :)  i rember there being a reason not to  use dd on different sized drives.
[05:35] <blazemonger> bruenig:well how do i fix them though?
[05:35] <blazemonger> that's the question
[05:36] <rylan> Chadarius, already downloading em,
[05:36] <blazemonger> i've spent hours searching on google today and taking adderalls
[05:36] <Mixx> Dr_willis I guess this is it ;)
[05:36] <kungfugoat> is fglrx supposed be both a kernel module and xorg module?
[05:36] <kungfugoat> I'm confused about that
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  its sshowing a single partition eh of 76gb ?
[05:36] <bruenig> blazemonger, I am not a graphics card person. Perhaps if you fixed that, some of the others would fall in line.
[05:36] <linuxrockz> need help for sound problems  LTS6.06
[05:36] <bruenig> I have a piece of crap integrated graphics card that does me well
[05:36] <blazemonger> bruenig:thing is i reccomended Ubuntu to a friend of mine  and told him Ubuntu was stable
[05:36] <Mixx> Dr_willis yes, qtparted running on a Knoppix live install shows 78
[05:36] <blazemonger> when it doesnt even work on me
[05:36] <Ferret> It works, for some reason
[05:37] <blazemonger> am i supposed to say ubuntu is faster and more stable than windows ?
[05:37] <Chadarius> rylan: I'm sorry friend but I've got to go hit the hay... I think you will be just fine when you complete that howto though
[05:37] <Ferret> invalid comparison error
[05:37] <bruenig> blazemonger, it is, I am on here very often and even considering that this is the help room so you are by design seeing the worse of the worse, there is very rarely something that isn't user error
[05:37] <rylan> Chadarius, thanks a ton
[05:37] <kungfugoat> this takes me back to slackware and my packard bell machine :|
[05:37] <Mixx> Dr_willis is there any other config file partition size is stored?
[05:37] <bruenig> worst*
[05:37] <kungfugoat> same ole xwindows
[05:38] <MikesHardLinux> xorg??
[05:38] <bruenig> blazemonger, not that it doesn't happen, but to generalize ubuntu as a whole being unstable and not working is just from my experience in this room wrong
[05:38] <blazemonger> bruenig:well if things are working for others why isn't it working for me?
[05:38] <dynamicreflux> anyone have any thoughts on the merge with Lindows?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  thats all on the boot record stuff i think.. id do some googling to see what others have done to fix that
[05:38] <blazemonger> i want to use ubuntu i like it's packaging
[05:38] <Ferret> kungfugoat: yes
[05:38] <blazemonger> but what use is a OS when there's no programs gthat work for it
[05:38] <Dr_willis> dynamicreflux,  its not lindows any more i thouight.
[05:38] <elyon225> !info knotify
[05:38] <ubotu> Package knotify does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[05:38] <bruenig> blazemonger, perhaps you should get a different graphics card that is better supported
[05:39] <dsquare> cannot install these updates:   libcairo2   libcairo2-dev          -- im trying to upgrade to edgy why do i get this message?
[05:39] <blazemonger> the only distro that's worked on me is dyne
[05:39] <bruenig> blazemonger, they do work
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: of course there is programs
[05:39] <blazemonger> i have one that's suported
[05:39] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: they work
[05:39] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  i have plenty of programs that work for me on it.
[05:39] <blazemonger> it's my rage 128
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> dr_willis: yea its still called lindows. they are basing it off ubuntu now and charging money for it
[05:39] <bruenig> well you said the drivers were poor
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> pathetic
[05:39] <blazemonger> at least it says in the xorg config file rage 128
[05:39] <bruenig> that sounds like bad support
[05:39] <Mixx> Dr_willis ok.  thanks very much again for helping me out (you've helped me in the past with something else)
[05:39] <blazemonger> doesn't that give open source a bad name?
[05:39] <bruenig> ati is known for being crappy
[05:39] <MikesHardLinux> geez blazemonger. even my servers run newer/better cards than that :-)
[05:39] <Madpilot> blazemonger, despite the name, a rage128 card only has about 32 or maybe 64Mb of RAM - it is not a modern card by any stretch...
[05:39] <blazemonger> why won't ati release proprietary drivers for the rage 128
[05:39] <bruenig> that is them
[05:39] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: we are all waiting for ati's open source info
[05:40] <bruenig> not ubuntu
[05:40] <blazemonger> Madpilot:flightgear won't even work in ubuntu
[05:40] <elyon225> Could someone tell me what knotify is?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  for backing up from one hd to another - 'tar' with a lot of options is normally used. not dd.
[05:40] <bernie_> my boot flag constantly resets to ntfs (only after i log into windows) and then i cant boot until i boot to the live cd and reset the flag
[05:40] <bruenig> !info knotify
[05:40] <Madpilot> blazemonger, with a card that elderly, I'm not surprised
[05:40] <kungfugoat> ati always had problems on every OS that I've ever used
[05:40] <ubotu> Package knotify does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[05:40] <elyon225> bruenig: Heh, already tried that ;)
[05:40] <dynamicreflux> ati sucks
[05:40] <kungfugoat> I only bought this stupid laptop because of the gorgeous screen
[05:40] <blazemonger> well i have a radeon card
[05:40] <kungfugoat> everything else is nvidia
[05:40] <blazemonger> when i tried to install it my computer fried
[05:41] <elyon225> ATI's are actually EXCELLENT cards... it's their DRIVER support that sucks.
[05:41] <blazemonger> (i tried to build a pc from scratch while stoned
[05:41] <bruenig> elyon225, it looks like it is part of kcontrol
[05:41] <Madpilot> blazemonger, so you've got hardware problems. How is this Ubuntu's fault?
[05:41] <bernie_> my boot flag constantly resets to ntfs (only after i log into windows) and then i cant boot until i boot to the live cd and reset the flag
[05:41] <bruenig> an apt-file search at least has it being in that package
[05:41] <blazemonger> if it's hardware problems why would things work perfect in Debian?
[05:41] <dsquare> Cannot install all available updates:   Some updates require the removal of further software.... skipping: libcairo2   libcairo2-dev          -- im trying to upgrade to edgy why do i get this message?
[05:41] <linuxrockz> radeon 9250 series?
[05:41] <dynamicreflux> nvidia is the best choice in light of ubuntu
[05:41] <dsquare> plz help??
[05:41] <MikesHardLinux> not all ati cards are a problem. my 9600xt worked without a hitch, although I haven't tried it with beryl
[05:41] <blazemonger> and slack and arch
[05:41] <Mixx> Dr_willis yes I tried tar first and thought I could shortcut some other issues i ran into by using dd.  looks like it's back to tar if i can't resolve this
[05:42] <Madpilot> MikesHardLinux, likewise, with the same card
[05:42] <blazemonger> could it be the old RAID card i have?
[05:42] <bruenig> blazemonger, I would suggest using them then for obsolete hardware in which drivers aren't available because of the company's refusal to write them and not opening up the specs for others to do so
[05:42] <kungfugoat> ok, time to get a check list so I can figure this out
[05:42] <elyon225> blazemonger: Because everyone here will fight to defend Ubuntu's perfection no matter what that means :)
[05:42] <blazemonger> i've complained to ATI about not having r128 drivers even offered for download
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  i recall using some of the fdisking tools.. but never personally used it.
[05:42] <blazemonger> i've wrote 50 letters to ATI
[05:42] <dynamicreflux> whoa wait, ubuntu's perfection is being questioned? crazy talk
[05:42] <bruenig> stop supporting ati, buy nvidia
[05:43] <kungfugoat> right now I'm afraid of what those large corporations are cooking up
[05:43] <bruenig> that would be a better course
[05:43] <Dr_willis> blazemonger,  i bet you scared them big time.
[05:43] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:it doesnt work on me
[05:43] <elyon225> blazemonger: You could have bought a BETTER nvidia card for the price you spent on that postage ;)
[05:43] <Mixx> Dr_willis actually, what would tar do that dd does not that would avoid this issue?  seems to me i'd be in the same situation
[05:43] <kungfugoat> if I have to stay up all night to get things to work, I will
[05:43] <blazemonger> bruenig:i'm one of those who has nothing but second hand hardware
[05:43] <Mixx> Dr_willis since all the files would copy over verbatim
[05:43] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:u got adderall?
[05:43] <bruenig> buy second hand nvidia
[05:43] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: what's adderall?
[05:43] <linuxrockz> who would complain about a free os?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  it copys files.. not the filesystem.. and not the 'partition information/mbr'
[05:43] <dynamicreflux> does anyone in here use tilda?
[05:44] <xenos76> I have tried to install flash player any way I can, can someone please tell me why it wont work in Firefox?
[05:44] <dynamicreflux> yea, i hate it too
[05:44] <dynamicreflux> its way too glitchy
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dd is just a raw data copy.. tar will follow the filesystem stuff.
[05:44] <bruenig> xenos76, did you add the right repositories? what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:44] <elyon225> xenos76: What version of Ubuntu/Firefox do you have?  And what version of the flash player did you try installing?
[05:44] <elyon225> xenos76: Also, please explain what "doesn't work" means.
[05:44] <blazemonger> well why is ubuntu not working when everything else does?
[05:44] <blazemonger> is ubungtu some kind of ultra secret conspiracy OS?
[05:44] <bruenig> troll
[05:45] <blazemonger> im not a troll
[05:45] <linuxrockz> open source
[05:45] <Mixx> Dr_willis i understand, but I would still ahve to go through steps to create MBR and a new partition table with both options.  I agree tar is probably the preferable method though, if only from a philosophical standpoint
[05:45] <dynamicreflux> conspiracy OS lol. how can it be a conspiracy if its open source
[05:45] <bernie_> my boot flag constantly resets to ntfs (only after i log into windows) and then i cant boot until i boot to the live cd and reset the flag
[05:45] <bruenig> the troll is for observation only, feeding is not allowed
[05:45] <elyon225> blazemonger: ALL Linux systems are incredibly different, but Ubuntu took the longest for me to get running well... but now that it is (for the most part)... I love it.
[05:45] <blazemonger> how long did it take you to get ubuntu working properly?
[05:45] <kungfugoat> I just got a nice second hand IBM server, complete 4 with loud SCSI hard disks and a tape drive!
[05:45] <linuxrockz> want everything done auto buy  microsoft
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> took me about
[05:46] <blazemonger> another thing i dont know any C/C++ so im unable to fix bugs myself
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> 20 minutes
[05:46] <elyon225> blazemonger: Hmm... about 15 reinstalls and a month :)
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  you just partition/format the drive, then tar.. with the normal tools..   problem is that the wrong data is now in the drives boot sectors.
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> worked fine with my laptop
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> wireless and all
[05:46] <xenos76> I try to access youtube videos and it does not work. I dont know if my repositories are up to date or how to fix them. I have flash player nine that I am trying to install. I dont know what version of fireox I have but I am dowloading the new one right now to make shure.
[05:46] <Madpilot> blazemonger, if another distro works better with your hardware, use it. File bugs with Ubuntu, and check back in a few months - april's release might solve some of your issues...
[05:46] <linuxrockz> that y linux rocks
[05:46] <blazemonger> elyon225:im on my 10th about to be 11th
[05:46] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: try fedora core 6
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  im sure theres a proper way to fix it using dd.
[05:46] <Madpilot> blazemonger, installing ubuntu took about 30min; installing ati drives another 5, done. (at least for me...)
[05:46] <blazemonger> maybe building a custom kernel will work
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  perhaps even using dd to skip the first boot records/mbr of the hd
[05:46] <bruenig> installed ubuntu, all worked out of the box
[05:47] <Mixx> Dr_willis yes that's what I did
[05:47] <dynamicreflux> same
[05:47] <blazemonger> maddler:you have other drivers for the rage 128!?!?!?!?!?!?
[05:47] <elyon225> xenos76: With the flash player, extract the libflashplugin.so file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins   Then restart firefox and you should be good to go.
[05:47] <blazemonger> plz send
[05:47] <xenos76> ok thanks Ill try that
[05:47] <Madpilot> blazemonger, me? no, I run a much newer ATI card - 9600XT
[05:47] <bruenig> xenos76, it would be much easier to get it from the repos
[05:47] <blazemonger> maybe theres something in the kernelt hat ubuntu enabled that doesnt like my system?
[05:47] <bruenig> xenos76, what version of ubuntu do you have
[05:47] <dynamicreflux> nah
[05:47] <bruenig> dapper or edgy
[05:47] <xenos76> The latest
[05:47] <kungfugoat> ok, my problem is...
[05:47] <dynamicreflux> blazemonger: u just need to wait like me for ati to release there ish
[05:48] <kungfugoat> I've screwed up a configuration step and now need to roll back to a safe point
[05:48] <elyon225> dynamicreflux: Don't hold your breath.
[05:48] <Mixx> Dr_willis i used dd to copy the partition, not the whole disk, then I reinstalled GRUB to write the MBR (i tried to use the MBR from the old install but it must have had a pointer to a different partition on 0x40)
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> elyon225: i beg to differ actually
[05:48] <blazemonger> i'm prob gonna just quit wasting my time and you folks time and switch to another distro
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> go to FC6
[05:48] <blazemonger> maybe ubuntu hates me cuz i voted for Bush
[05:48] <elyon225> blazemonger: Also... to put it into perspective - I had a Radeon 9600 (much newer than the Rage128)... and I eventually had to give it up to get Ubuntu to work.
[05:48] <MikesHardLinux> blaze: try Fedora
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> but linux video drivers are linux video drivers
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> if they arent on ubuntu
[05:48] <dynamicreflux> they wont be there
[05:48] <bruenig> xenos76, ok do the following: sudo -c 'echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  this is a ext2/3 partition? You should then be able to grow the filesystem to fill that extra space. For ext2 filesystems, try using the ext2resize tool.
[05:49] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:how do i build my own distro?
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> get about 10,000 ppl in a community
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  is what i am googing here -----> http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/saw27/notes/backup-hard-disk-partitions.html
[05:49] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: that's a lot of work
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> grab debian or something
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> and have fun ! =)
[05:49] <elyon225> bruenig: Hmm... installing flash from the repos never worked for me... pretty sure it always installed flash7
[05:49] <IcemanV9> is it possible to backport kvm to dapper??
[05:49] <xenos76> ok ill try that
[05:49] <blazemonger> i know dynamicreflux and linux = linux nd gnome=gnome
[05:49] <bruenig> sudo bash -c echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:49] <bruenig> I forgot the bash
[05:49] <kungfugoat> I'm waiting for openbeos
[05:49] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:i seriously want to run ubuntu
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> ur like me then
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> i cant run beryl
[05:49] <kungfugoat> debian on the server end and openbeos on the desktop will be nice
[05:49] <blazemonger> the only thing i can think of is the kernel problems
[05:49] <dynamicreflux> i have an x1600 ATI
[05:50] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:i can't run beryl either
[05:50] <bruenig> elyon225, you didn't have your backports
[05:50] <blazemonger> i tried to run beryl on my rage 128 gl card
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> no ati users can right now
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> ur not alone
[05:50] <xenos76> bruening: it says that I have a illegal operation using -c
[05:50] <elyon225> bruenig: Yeah, I did... well, I think I did.
[05:50] <MikesHardLinux> blazemonger: I doubt you could ever run beryln on a Rage128
[05:50] <elyon225> blazemonger: Don't try taht ;)
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> no
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> not true
[05:50] <bruenig> elyon225, do apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree | grep Version
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> u probably could
[05:50] <dynamicreflux> just not on these drivers
[05:50] <bruenig> should be a 9 in there
[05:50] <elyon225> blazemonger: And Beryl is great, by the way.
[05:50] <blazemonger> dynamicreflux:i'm going to reinstall ubuntu one more time but this time i'm going to build a kernel
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  check out --> http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BackupHDD
[05:50] <Mixx> Dr_willis - the partition is already the right size according to the partition table, I wouldn't be able to grow it as it already shows it's 72 GB
[05:50] <blazemonger> and i'm going to log all updates
[05:51] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to compile a kernel module on Dapper running 2.6.15-28-k7. I installed linux-source and -headers but get a lot of compiler errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5870/   ---   Any idea?
[05:51] <blazemonger> and have u folks help me out
[05:51] <bruenig> xenos76, right use the second one that I pasted
[05:51] <jmillikin> In Launchpad, how do I assign a bug to a team? (Hopefully this is the correct channel)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  Hmm.. never mind that last url.. heh .. i missread it.
[05:51] <blazemonger> but for now i'm sick of computers and i gotta go and smoke some mary jane
[05:51] <elyon225> bruenig: Nope... version 7 :)
[05:51] <dynamicreflux> u go do that
[05:51] <Mixx> Dr_willis =)
[05:51] <blazemonger> the way i got into computers was midi
[05:51] <bruenig> elyon225, you must not have backports multiverse
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  im wondering how dd did that.. when it ran out of data on the first hd.. what did it write to the rest of the 2nd hd..
[05:51] <blazemonger> i have a bunch of synths and keyboards
[05:51] <xenos76> oh thanks, i didnt see that
[05:51] <Madpilot> jmillikin, try #ubuntu-bugs or #launchpad
[05:52] <blazemonger> and i got a computer so i could use it as a sequencer
[05:52] <blazemonger> maybe i should buy a hardware sequencer
[05:52] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: you can buy my geforce4 4200 card with zalman heatpipes
[05:52] <jmillikin> Will do, thanks
[05:52] <blazemonger> (im just one of those dj's
[05:52] <Madpilot> blazemonger, please stop using your Enter key as punctuation - you've been asked about that before...
[05:52] <blazemonger> lol
[05:52] <callisto> hey room
[05:52] <elyon225> bruenig: Hmm... I've reinstalled so many times (switching from gnome to kde and back)... can't remember if or how I enabled backports this time.
[05:52] <blazemonger> not a geek
[05:52] <bruenig> that one is messed up to, wonder if it will fail
[05:52] <cellfish> is there any way to use chmod to set permissions for a folder to just ONE user?
[05:52] <blazemonger> comp
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  it COULD be you did dd from /dev/hda  when ya should of used /dev/hda1
[05:52] <bruenig> sudo bash -c 'echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:52] <bruenig> that is right
[05:53] <cellfish> like chmod cellfish+rwx /media/whatever
[05:53] <blazemonger> i give up on computers..i love my prophet 5 synth
[05:53] <blazemonger> heheheh
[05:53] <bruenig> chmod u+rwx should be enough
[05:53] <xenos76> phew thanks, now its working
[05:53] <blazemonger> and my korg drum machines/samplers
[05:53] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: I already tried using my computer to DJ
[05:53] <Madpilot> cellfish, "chown" is the command to change ownership of a folder/file
[05:53] <bruenig> massive commands are fun
[05:53] <elyon225> blazemonger: There are no computer problems, only user errors (user either being you or the programmer)
[05:53] <xenos76> yeah haha
[05:53] <pavs> whats the command to see what services are runnning?
[05:53] <callisto> does anyone know anything about xgl and ati cards
[05:53] <blazemonger> kungfugoatyoure a dj?
[05:53] <cellfish> chown! that's what i needed
[05:53] <cellfish> thank you
[05:53] <blazemonger> im not a programmer
[05:53] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: used to be
[05:54] <kungfugoat> I sold most of my stuff
[05:54] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:really? whatd u play?
[05:54] <blazemonger> i still am into the scene eheh
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  perhaps check   http://www.mckeay.net/secure/2004/10/using_dd_to_clone_a_hd.html heh.
[05:54] <blazemonger> what country u live in?
[05:54] <kungfugoat> blazemonger: electronica, house, hip-hop, etc
[05:54] <kungfugoat> not really hip-hop, but trip-hop
[05:54] <blazemonger> i play what i call psy-trance-idm
[05:54] <blazemonger> lol
[05:54] <pavs> whats the command to see what services are runnning?
[05:54] <blazemonger> house is fun
[05:54] <blazemonger> dj ESP
[05:54] <bruenig> pavs, ps -A
[05:54] <Madpilot> pavs, top
[05:54] <blazemonger> yay
[05:55] <kungfugoat> I spent way too much money on music at places like beatport
[05:55] <pavs> thakns
[05:55] <bruenig> kungfugoat, bittorrent...
[05:55] <kungfugoat> spent way too much money on DJ equipment too
[05:55] <blazemonger> kungfugoat: I still do lol
[05:55] <blazemonger> it's like crack isn't it?
[05:55] <kungfugoat> yep
[05:55] <cellfish> ok what would be the command to change the owner of a folder from 'root' to 'cellfish'? is it sudo chown cellfish /media/whatever?
[05:55] <kungfugoat> It took me 4 months to sell my CD players
[05:55] <kungfugoat> I kept looking at them and weeping
[05:56] <bruenig> cellfish, yeah, you might want to do it recursively
[05:56] <blazemonger> i also throw parties too
[05:56] <kungfugoat> I now want to buy them back
[05:56] <rylan> god i love ubuntu
[05:56] <rylan> who needs a rubix cube, this is way more fun
[05:56] <blazemonger> http://www.dynebolic.org/ this is the distro that works for me
[05:57] <Madpilot> kungfugoat, blazemonger - non-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM, please - try to keep this channel for support questions. Thanks.
[05:57] <MikesHardLinux> rylan: me too!!!
[05:57] <blazemonger> and does what I need it to
[05:57] <blazemonger> it has a midi sequencer
[05:57] <bruenig> troll
[05:57] <kungfugoat> Madpilot: sorry about that
[05:57] <blazemonger> dynebolic is good
[05:57] <blazemonger> kungfugoat:try dynebolic if you are into audio bro
[05:57] <blazemonger> ubuntu's not there yet for audio
[05:57] <Mixx> Dr_willis I dd'd from the 36gb to the 72 gb so when it ran out of things to read it just stopped writing
[05:57] <Michael_Desrosie> okay, so I really want to make the switch over to ubuntu. the only thing keeping me from switching is doubt as to whether or not my wireless card will be supported. its internal, so i cant just take it out and look at the name for it. i found NdisWrapper, and i cant tell whether itll work for me. any suggestions?
[05:57] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: sorry wasn't here, have to look sometimes after a sick grandma :(
[05:58] <blazemonger> i was able to just load dynebolic and click on the sequencer and im able to record
[05:58] <tds5016> hello. I'm having a problem with the xine plugins.... Basically it won't play sirius's online music.
[05:58] <kungfugoat> Michael_Desrosie: do lspci
[05:58] <Mixx> Dr_willis probably the thing to do would have been to create a partition of the same size, dd it over, then resize
[05:58] <blazemonger> but ubu8ntu has to be all complex
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  but did you dd of=/dev/hda or /dev/hda1 ?
[05:58] <tds5016> I'm not sue which plugin I'm using, or which one I should.
[05:58] <dynamicreflux> hey curious, does anyone know of a site(s) with a bunch of terminal commands?
[05:58] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: :-(. hope she is ok. that's ok. i think my last post was just to mention you might need those 2 commands to trouble-shoot
[05:58] <dynamicreflux> just a complete run through of commands available in terminal
[05:58] <Mixx> Dr_willis if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb1
[05:58] <tds5016> hello?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[05:59] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: saw tht, will try all the stuff :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  there goes my theory then.
[05:59] <rylan> it just feels so dam cool every time i do something in terminal and stuff happnes.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> dynamicreflux,  check out some linux tutorials.. :) or browse the man pages
[05:59] <mdesros> so, anybody knowledgeable about support for wireless cards?
[05:59] <Madpilot> rylan, easy geek points ;)
[05:59] <tds5016> anyone able to help?
[06:00] <rylan> though, also scares the hell out of me if i make a small typo
[06:00] <Mixx> Dr_willis i'm sure there's some file that has the old part size on it, I just haven't foudn it yet (google not being cooperative... yet)
[06:00] <rylan> Am i the only person that prays a little whenever they hit sudo make install?
[06:01] <kungfugoat> rylan: no
[06:01] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: there is one more printer to do, care to take a shot at tht one?
[06:01] <Madpilot> rylan, yes, spelling matters ;)
[06:01] <dynamicreflux> why rylan
[06:01] <dynamicreflux> lol
[06:01] <tds5016> anyone able to help me out with the sirius not working with the plugin I'm using?
[06:01] <Madpilot> rylan, I avoid that by never compiling, ever :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  that would be the data in the boot record i am guessing.
[06:01] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: lol! is it by any chance a Dell 3000CN?
[06:01] <rylan> hahaha
[06:01] <kungfugoat> rylan: it's pray and then oh sh*t when you see a bunch of errors about pointers
[06:02] <rylan> i bet.
[06:02] <rylan> so far no errors
[06:02] <rylan> i hope.
[06:02] <pavs> kinda offtpic question I am trying to setup apache server I can see the apache folder from my machine but when I try to do it from a differant machine with my ip address I see my router configuration page, how do I set it up so that I can see my website/apache page?
[06:02] <Spo8> Hi, i'm getting this error when trying to install.  can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong?  http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2281/partitionproblemsgm9.png
[06:02] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: srry to disappoint u but it's an Epson Stylus R230 (USB-based) connected to a Windows machine by USB (I think) although accessible through the network, it's not a network printer
[06:02] <redbox> pavs: you need to forward port 80 on your router to your local machine that is running apache
[06:03] <pavs> redbox can I msg you in private>
[06:03] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: what version of windows is on the computer with the epson?
[06:03] <kungfugoat> pavs: you shouldn't be seeing your router configuration page unless you're typing in the wrong address
[06:03] <rylan> WEEEE this is fun.... oh crap! (a short story about linux terminal)
[06:03] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: It's '98 SE
[06:03] <tds5016> anyone able to help with video plugins with firefox?
[06:04] <pavs> how do I forward port 80 to my local machine?
[06:04] <rylan> time for reboot and praying
[06:05] <Spo8> can anyone help me out on that install problem above?  i was hoping to get this installed tonight.
[06:05] <pavs> when I do http://localhost
[06:05] <pavs> I see my apache webpage
[06:05] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i am checking to see of the r230 is even supported yet
[06:05] <pavs> but when I put my ip it goes to router configuration
[06:06] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool :)
[06:07] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: the correct name is Epson Stylus Photo R230
[06:08] <[R] eaper> i need help with my ati card
[06:08] <redbox> pavs: go to your  router configuration there should be an option to port forward
[06:08] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: it's not listed at openprinting.org, but it'll probably work with the same driver as the whole R200 series....I assume.
[06:09] <Nergar> can ubuntu tell me the manufacturer of a wlan usb card?
[06:09] <rylan> IT WORKS!
[06:09] <Nergar> :/
[06:09] <cafuego_> Nergar: usually yes. `lsusb'
[06:09] <rylan> Oh thats just sexy
[06:10] <Nergar> thnx cafuego_
[06:10] <rylan> i am a god among people with no ability to use linux! ROAR
[06:10] <cafuego_> Nergar: it might show the manufacturer as 4 hex digits though
[06:10] <redbox> Nergar: or try lspci -v
[06:10] <Mixx> Dr_willis i'm going to try running fsck on startup and see if that .. um .. sorts things out.  =)
[06:10] <cafuego_> redbox: No.
[06:10] <tds5016> how do I see what software I have installed via apt-get?
[06:10] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: from the review http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/printers/0,39051175,39097221p,00.htm it seems it works but not the way I would like it though
[06:10] <cafuego_> Nergar: If you get hex digits, google is your friend :-)
[06:10] <redbox> cafuego_: oh! didn't see "usb card" ;p
[06:10] <Borat> Hi, does anyone know where to find the fonts luxi sans, or Swis721?
[06:10] <Borat> Thanks.
[06:10] <Nergar> :D
[06:10] <tds5016> like I want to search for wha tI have installed in terms of firefox plugins.
[06:10] <tds5016> ^^
[06:11] <Spo8> so no one can help with my installation problem?
[06:11] <[R] eaper> anyone can help me with this?? http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg
[06:11] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to install the old version of flash on Edgy? Edgy comes with version 9 I would like the dapper version. I think that's 7
[06:11] <cafuego_> Borat: Luxi is in `ttf-xfree86-nonfree'
[06:11] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: ya. that's pretty typical. here's where I'm looking right now: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R200
[06:12] <redbox> Spo8: whats your problem?  I see your image, but whats the issue?
[06:12] <dsquare> wow is the upgrade usually 1.2 gigs?~!?!!
[06:12] <Borat> cafuego, thanks !
[06:12] <Spo8> redbox: See at the bottom how it says "No root file system"?  It isn't letting me continue the installation, it just brings up that notice.
[06:12] <Asc__> tds5016: Well, synaptic should list all such software.
[06:12] <mike__> using Azureus with 8 to 9 Mbps cable modem speed trying to download ubuntu   and only get incredibly bad (<50k/s) download speeds????
[06:13] <Asc__> tds5016: Although firefox plugins are also found under ~/.mozilla/plugins
[06:13] <tds5016> Asc__, oh okay.
[06:13] <IcemanV9> where OR how do i get qemu packager to update its package from 8.0 to 9.0 for dapper??
[06:13] <DigitalNinja> I see Flash on dapper is 9 also
[06:13] <GMWeezel> How can I make xorg use the "nvidia" driver for 3D acceleration but the "nv" driver for 2D?
[06:13] <redbox> Spo8: your missing something in the earlier steps .. why is / sda5 ? what is sda1 ?
[06:13] <mike__> what am i doing wwrong??
[06:13] <cafuego_> and Swiss 721 appears to be downloadable. Just put the .TTF in ~/.fonts/
[06:14] <redbox> mike__: are there a lot of seeders?
[06:14] <Spo8> redbox: sda1 is my main windows install.  I created those two with partitionmagic in windows.
[06:14] <mike__> hold on..
[06:14] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to go back to flash 7 in edgy
[06:14] <DigitalNinja> ??
[06:15] <redbox> Spo8: I'm not familiar with the installation process your image is showing so its hard to say .. is there an option to set sda5 to primary?
[06:15] <redbox> Spo8: or to set ext3 on sda5 ?
[06:15] <nnliu> my ubuntu says no swap space available, can anyone help me out? I have created a linux swap partition
[06:15] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I read tht page but pretty much is overboard, it does mention something about gutenprint, anyway u can make it less technical for guys like me to understand :)
[06:16] <Mixx> Dr_willis need to have the super-block updated ;)
[06:16] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i can show you the basic network set-up for a windows shared printer (samba), but I fear you may have some trouble to get it working because of that specific printer
[06:16] <[R] eaper> please help me!! http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/977/instantnea2js0.jpg
[06:16] <Asc__> DigitalNinja: Probably if you replace the flash 9 plugin with the flash 7 plugin, that would do it.  Not sure where'd you get the v7 plugin these days though.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  yea.. i was thinking somthing like that.. but couldent rember the name
[06:16] <MTecknology> Need some help... I have Ubuntu Linux installed nice on my tablet. I'm bored so I felt like installing LinuxMint (A Ubuntu based distro). When trying to boot it hangs. It goes through the regular boot process. The same point where Ubuntu will pause w/ the sliding bar and the screen flickers then loads the desktop, LinuxMint will hang. I waited for almost 15min and got nothing more. I tried booting w/ the acpi=off option but got nowhere. Any ideas?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Mixx,  im not that geek-haxor
[06:17] <Spo8> redbox: no, not that I'm aware of.  Both partitions are logical, if that makes a difference.
[06:17] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: tht is alright, atleast I would have had tried :)
[06:17] <DigitalNinja> Asc__: Thanks! I'll have to do some searching
[06:17] <GMWeezel> [R] eaper: You need different video card drivers probably; I remeber having the same problem. If you are using ATI, try fglrx.
[06:18] <[R] eaper> i have ATI, and the ati.com fglrx driver
[06:18] <GMWeezel> [R] eaper: Did you reset xorg to reflect the changes?
[06:18] <[R] eaper> yes
[06:18] <MikesHardLinux> shirish. from the windows comp with the printer, you need it's ip address, and the share name of the printer.
[06:19] <GMWeezel> [R] eaper: Hmm well not sure what I did to get it working and I did it so long ago, the links aren't in my history any more. Buena suerte.
[06:19] <nnliu> my ubuntu says no swap space available, can anyone help me out? I have created a linux swap partition already
[06:19] <unperson> Hi, my system has an Athlon 64 X2 processor.  I was trying to run the amd64 version of edgy but found the lack of compatibility with proprietary 32-bit binaries too much trouble.  Now I've installed the 32-bit version of Edgy, what kernel should I use (686, k7, etc.)?
[06:19] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: means even tht printer has an ip address, I was specifically told it's not a network printer (confused)
[06:20] <unperson> Oh, maybe it's moot.  It looks like k7 and 686 now say they're obsoleted by the generic image.
[06:20] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: it's connected through the Win'98 SE machine
[06:20] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: no, not the printer. just the computer's ip address
[06:20] <[R] eaper> damn... :(
[06:20] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: since you'll be connecting through that computer
[06:20] <MTecknology> Need some help... I have Ubuntu Linux installed nice on my tablet. I'm bored so I felt like installing LinuxMint (A Ubuntu based distro). When trying to boot it hangs. It goes through the regular boot process. The same point where Ubuntu will pause w/ the sliding bar and the screen flickers then loads the desktop, LinuxMint will hang. I waited for almost 15min and got nothing more. I tried booting w/ the acpi=off option but got nowhere. Any ideas?
[06:20] <MTecknology> just by the time it's hanging i would guess an xorg problem, but i've know idea how to diagnose the exact problem or where to begin trying to fix it
[06:21] <MTecknology> also, i can't find a channel for linuxmint
[06:21] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool got tht, so let's say it's 192.168.1. 10 & the name is 'G2'
[06:21] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: do you know how to share the printer on the windows computer?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> MTecknology,   could try the  'nofb' boot option. to disalbe the framebuffer and the 'nosplash' option to disable the silly splash screen
[06:22] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: nope, not at all :P
[06:22] <Dr_willis> MTecknology,  that may let ya see any error messages
[06:22] <nnliu> The IRC channel is ready. The server is irc.spotchat.org (standard port 6667) and the channel name: #linuxmint.com
[06:22] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: but willing to learn
[06:22] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: :-) hehe. you'll need to tell windows to share the printer. the steps you take depend on if that computer already has sharing enabled or not
[06:23] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: here's a tutorial. it should be straightforward: http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/work/articles/906Jun/Shareprinter.asp
[06:24] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: it should be in sharing, as other comps. are able to print through tht, but still run tht one by me so I can check out if it's right or not, it doesn't hurt to check stuff
[06:24] <rylan> i have a question, is it possible to run photoshop in ubuntu. and if so how.
[06:24] <Vilhelms> I'm trying to install avant, but a dependancy is missing and I can't install... Here is the output when I try to install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5878/plain/
[06:24] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: you may have to go all the way to the network settings to make sure that sharing is enabled. I believe it is disabled by default
[06:25] <mike__> to whoever asked me about seeds in azurues.......i uninstalled azureus and reinstalled and it seems to be working now  seeds 5(45)
[06:25] <mike__> speed at 354 kB/s
[06:25] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: then, (after a reboot) you can right-click on the printer and choose "sharing" and then set it to be shared
[06:25] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok will check tht & will enable it, after tht?
[06:26] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: right.
[06:26] <rylan> anyone?
[06:26] <rylan> photoshop on linux?
[06:26] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok cool will do tht :)
[06:26] <Asc__> rylan: Try WINE.  It used to work for me.  It doesn't any more, but seems to work better for other people.
[06:26] <rylan> Asc__, could you run photoshop through wine?
[06:26] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I forgot to ask, are you using regular ubuntu (Gnome) or a different one? Xbunutu or Kbunutu?
[06:26] <Kilroy> why dont u just use gimp?
[06:27] <glok> anyone have an opinion on which tape backup program is most reliable?
[06:27] <rylan> because i dont know gimp.
[06:27] <mike__> learn gimp
[06:27] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: it's Ubuntu 6.06 :)
[06:27] <cafuego_> rylan: It's a lit easier to learn gimp than it is to run Photoshop on wine.
[06:27] <cafuego_> lot easier
[06:27] <rylan> hmmm, ill considder that
[06:27] <cafuego_> in fact, learning gimp is possible at all
[06:27] <asc_> rylan: I used to run 5 with it, and I also heard that 7 worked.  Not sure about more recent versions, but there should be information in winehq's application database
[06:27] <DaveyJones> does anyone know about runing an ET server?
[06:27] <rylan> got'it
[06:28] <Kilroy> Et is too hard he is always trying to "phone home"
[06:28] <DaveyJones> lol
[06:28] <DaveyJones> ET the game
[06:28] <DaveyJones> lol
[06:28] <asc_> cafuego_: Dunno, it's always seemed to me like the tools don't behave as they should.
[06:28] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: anything after tht?
[06:28] <Madpilot> Kilroy, beat me to that joke by about 10 seconds ;)
[06:28] <Kilroy> lol
[06:28] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: ok. on the ubuntu machine, when you choose to add a network printer, choose Windows Printer (SMB). if that is not an option, you may need to install smbclient
[06:28] <DaveyJones> i need to find a file
[06:29] <Vilhelms> I'm trying to install avant, but a dependancy is missing and I can't install... Here is the output when I try to install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5878/plain/
[06:29] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: and smb-common (IIRC)
[06:29] <Kilroy> anyone run counter strike source under wine?
[06:29] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: it does show Windows Printer (SMB) :)
[06:30] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: you enter the IP address of the windows computer where it asks for host. enter the shared-name of the printer where it says printer.
[06:30] <Nergar> amazing i cant find a driver for windows, all i find is the linux driver :/ life is messing with me
[06:30] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: don't need a username/password unless you told you windows machine to ask for a username/password
[06:31] <MTecknology> Need some help... I have Ubuntu Linux installed nice on my tablet. I'm bored so I felt like installing LinuxMint (A Ubuntu based distro). When trying to boot it hangs. It goes through the regular boot process. The same point where Ubuntu will pause w/ the sliding bar and the screen flickers then loads the desktop, LinuxMint will hang. I waited for almost 15min and got nothing more. I tried booting w/ the acpi=off option but got nowhere. Any ideas?.
[06:31] <MTecknology> .. Just by the time it's hanging I would guess an xorg problem, but I have know idea how to diagnose the exact problem or where to begin trying to fix it.
[06:31] <seb-_> how upgrade to latest 6 month release from old one?.....apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[06:31] <DaveyJones> anyone know the path to ET its something like /etwolf ?
[06:31] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: the next step is where you choose the driver. you may have to try a few, but start with one of the R200 series printers (duh) hehe
[06:32] <KarlosII> hello, I've installeed gallery 2 nad goto http://localhost/gallery2/ but file is not found, anyone know why?
[06:32] <asc_> MTeknology: Can you get to a tty?
[06:32] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: the rest of the steps are just for the description that you  will see.
[06:32] <DaveyJones> :(
[06:33] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, What are you using for your HTTPd?
[06:33] <seb-_> MikesHardLinux: how upgrade to newer ubuntu? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:33] <KarlosII> Vilhelms: all I know is apache 2 is installed and working
[06:33] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok will do tht, any command-line stuff to check whether my comp. is talking to printer or not?
[06:34] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, Do you know where your siteroot is?
[06:34] <KarlosII> not sure, it used to be in var/www/ before the upgrade
[06:34] <MikesHardLinux> seb-_: I personally don't recommend doing version upgrades. they never work for me, I always end up with major problems
[06:34] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, Is gallery2 a php/cgi script?
[06:34] <DaveyJones> bah porkchops!
[06:34] <KarlosII> it's a installa pkg in synaptic
[06:35] <Mixx> Dr_willis http://mandrivausers.org/lofiversion/index.php/t30308.html ;)
[06:35] <shirish> seb-_ : Mikes is right, I found the same through the hard way also :)
[06:35] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, Okay let me find some info on it, hold on
[06:35] <seb-_> MikesHardLinux, shirish: so you guys do a new install?
[06:35] <KarlosII> Vilhelms: tried teh forums but all they had was info on the 1.5 version not 2.0 version
[06:36] <shirish> seb-_ : make backup of ur important data, format & install the new way so no brainache :)
[06:36] <MikesHardLinux> seb-_: yes. every time. one thing i do is have a separate partition for /home. that way i can keep all my settings and stuff
[06:36] <seb-_> good idea
[06:37] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: still checking on the right way to send a test page to a windows shared printer. maybe someone knows the proper command?
[06:37] <shirish> seb-_ : I used to do tht but need to partition for /home before doing any logical partitions for windows otherwise it didn't work
[06:37] <noiesmo> hey all, had a hard drive failure, well my ext3 is now ext2 my data appears ok but I would like to convert to ext3 again is this possible without lossing any data
[06:38] <MTecknology> can anybody PLEASE have some idea for me???
[06:38] <slosticflier> I set up my printer today it was pretty easy
[06:38] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: tht would be cool if somebody knows tht
[06:38] <unperson> If I want to use the proprietary nvidia drives, do I have to use the 386 kernel?
[06:38] <Mixx> Dr_willis bed now, tunefs tomorrow...
[06:38] <unperson> Because when I select nvidia-glx in synaptic it wants to install a 386 kernel image.
[06:38] <noiesmo> unperson, you need the kernel headers matching your running kernel
[06:39] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: btw when we are on the topic of printers, is there a definite site to know which ones are the most compatible printers are with Ubuntu?
[06:39] <unperson> noiesmo, You mean to compile the driver myself?
[06:39] <noiesmo> !envy | unperson
[06:39] <ubotu> unperson: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[06:39] <Nickname> H guys anybody used the latest version of the vmware edgy eft posted on vmware.com. I installed the automatic updates and I lost my ethernet connection as it is not shown in the network connections
[06:40] <rangans> H guys anybody used the latest version of the vmware edgy eft posted on vmware.com. I installed the automatic updates and I lost my ethernet connection as it is not shown in the network connections
[06:40] <Sluff> Mteck, do you get to the X login?
[06:40] <slosticflier> shirish: the list on the network setup is so long it's rediculious
[06:40] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I seem to remember that there is an ubuntu HCL site...
[06:40] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier: do you know a simple commandline to send a test page to a windows shared printer, just to make sure your comp can see it?
[06:40] <imbecile> anyone know how to setup freenx?
[06:41] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I have seen tht one, but as slosticflier pointed it out, its messy
[06:41] <FurthuR> How do I associate a filetype to a console application? I want to be able to run a console app inside gnome-terminal with the selected file
[06:41] <sigger_> I'm mounting nfs shares from my Knoppmyth system and I guess that the user/group numbers are different.  Its messing up my ability to access.  Any easy solutions?
[06:42] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: wouldn't it make things simpler, if it had some kind of star rating or something so we know which printers work the best, out of box & require minimal stuff to get it working :)
[06:42] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i search on ubuntuforums and also look at openprinting.org, but I dont know of a realy definitive list of known-working stuff
[06:42] <rangans> HELP
[06:42] <rangans> ?
[06:42] <slosticflier> mike if you go to system>admin>printing you can do it from there
[06:42] <FurthuR> i got a checksum checker (cfv) through apt-get and i wanna know how I can get it to open the terminal so i can see the output of the program once I click on the checksum file
[06:43] <FurthuR> there isisnt any options to "run in console"
[06:43] <unperson> noiesmo, Thanks.
[06:43] <noiesmo> unperson, np envy roks
[06:43] <FurthuR> any ideas?
[06:43] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier: the problem with that solution is if the driver doesn't like that printer, it may not work. I'm sure there;s a way to use the cli to send something like text that doesn't require any drivers
[06:43] <shirish> slosticflier: the point being if there is a way to communicate to the printer through the command-line, because AFAI understand everything tht we click is nothing but an emulation of the same stuff working through command-line
[06:43] <slosticflier> what printer are you using?
[06:44] <slosticflier> let me look
[06:44] <KarlosII> hello, I've installeed gallery 2 nad goto http://localhost/gallery2/ but file is not found, anyone know why? It has not worked since upgrading from ubuntu 6.06, I have apache2 installed and mysql installed, and the ubuntu pkg supposedly presets it up? Any idea why where to start to find the issue?
[06:44] <shirish> slosticflier: it's an Epson Stylus photo R230
[06:44] <unperson> noiesmo, Yeah, I was actually looking at using the repositories from the same guy, but again they want to install the 386 kernel.
[06:45] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i honestly don't know how to send something simple like text to a windows shared printer from the commandline, but it's gotta be possible :-)
[06:45] <spektor> hello
[06:46] <spektor> I've got a problem and was wondering if anyone could help me
[06:46] <sstchur> seeking some wireless help:  lspci lists my Atheros card, but iwconfig does not list ath0 anywhere (only lo, eth0, and sit0 all with "no wireless extensions")
[06:46] <KarlosII> spektor, if you tell us what the problem is, then maybe we can help
[06:46] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: lol, argh what can I say
[06:46] <cafuego_> sstchur: You need to install the atheros drivers.
[06:46] <FurthuR> Anyone knows howto associate a filetype to a console application?
[06:46] <KarlosII> if noone answers then that means noone is smart enough to know the answer
[06:46] <cafuego_> sstchur: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:46] <KarlosII> :)
[06:47] <Sluff> Can you echo or cat a test files to it???
[06:47] <sstchur> cafuego_: I installed madwifi... what more do I need?
[06:47] <sstchur> cafuego_:  ah... okay
[06:47] <shirish> slosticflier: any luck slosticflier
[06:47] <cafuego_> sstchur: The drivers are precomiled for your kernel in that package.
[06:47] <FurthuR> In a way that running that filetype will open a console with the selected console application
[06:47] <slosticflier> i can't find anything on wiki
[06:47] <cafuego_> sstchur: if you built ones by hand, you may need to load the drivers by hand. Using prebuilt is easier I guess.
[06:47] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: LOL. i can do that stuff from msdos so easily, but i still have a lot to learn about using smb on the cli
[06:47] <spektor> I've got an old Dell inspiron 2100 and it keeps crashing using the edgy live cd,  I was able to edit the xorg.conf file while it was booting but now it's shutting the sytem when it looks like enabling alsa
[06:47] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, Hey, do you still need help with gallery2?
[06:47] <sstchur> cafuego_: I didn't buld anything by hand....
[06:48] <KarlosII> yes Vilhelms
[06:48] <Keitaru> hey guys what music player do you guys use to run your media/mp3s on linux
[06:48] <KarlosII> Vilhelms: I thought you dc'ed
[06:48] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, I did :(
[06:48] <stylus> beeeep.
[06:48] <cafuego_> KarlosII: Check /etc/apache2/conf.d/gallery2
[06:48] <KarlosII> bummer
[06:48] <slosticflier> is printer hooked to windowsw box?
[06:48] <sstchur> cafuego_:  what does the line you gave me do exactly?  installes restricted modules I gather, but what is the -$ and (uname -r ) ?>
[06:48] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, Okay, can you get to http://localhost ?
[06:48] <KarlosII> yes
[06:48] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: atleast run tht command by me, the msdos one
[06:48] <oljanx> Would using python and PyGTK instead of pure C make a huge difference in performance for your run of the mill application, assuming no a lot of number crunching is involved?
[06:48] <cafuego_> sstchur: $(uname -r) is replaced with the current kernel version.
[06:48] <shirish> slosticflier: yup it's on windows box
[06:49] <sstchur> cafuego_:  oh!  well, that's very handy
[06:49] <cafuego_> sstchur: aye :-)
[06:49] <slosticflier> ok let me try something
[06:49] <sstchur> thanks!
[06:49] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: the msdos would be simple: echo some text > \\192.168.123.123\epson-r230 <---- of course insert the proper ip addres and printer share-name
[06:49] <kungfugoat> well, I finally got fglrx and dual head working with my radeon x1400
[06:49] <kungfugoat> all is right with the World
[06:49] <FurthuR> lol
[06:50] <cafuego_> KarlosII: Does /etc/apache2/conf.d/gallery2 exist? Did you restart apache2 after installation?
[06:50] <Lucifel> What options do I have to add to the fstab entry to get my ext3 volume writable by non-root user?
[06:50] <cafuego_> Lucifel: Nothing, you need to set permissions on the filesystem itself.
[06:50] <KarlosII> yes I restarted apache after inst6al, one moment checking for that path
[06:50] <cafuego_> apache or apache2?
[06:50] <rangans> guys anybody have ethernet adapter disappearing problem with edgy eft automatic upgrade
[06:50] <FurthuR> Any of you guys know howto get a console based application to run a certain file... as in it would pop up gnome-terminal and run the program with the file you clicked
[06:51] <tom__> Hello
[06:51] <Lucifel> cafuego ahh, thank you
[06:51] <KarlosII> cafuego prince@House:/etc/apache2/conf.d$ cd gallery2
[06:51] <KarlosII> bash: cd: gallery2: Not a directory
[06:51] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: just wanted to clarify so you know for sure what to type:   echo any text > \\ipaddress\printer's_shared_name
[06:51] <Vilhelms> I'm trying to install libwnck-dev as a dependancy for something else but when I try I get the following output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5879/plain/
[06:51] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: so if I get this right it would be echo some text > \\ipaddress\share-name am I getting it right?
[06:51] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: yup
[06:52] <tom__> Any of you able t ohelp me with a small problem i am having?
[06:52] <chaoticg33k> hello?
[06:52] <FurthuR> anyone??
[06:52] <Trixsey> How do I install something with ant?
[06:52] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok atleast I would know what's happening there :)
[06:52] <Trixsey> =(
[06:52] <KarlosII> Vilhelms: see my response to cafuego
[06:52] <FurthuR> tom__ : Ask your question
[06:52] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: i am sure that wont in linux though, because you are using smb to connect to the printer and that requires extra stuff
[06:52] <tom__> ok
[06:52] <KarlosII> awaiting cafuego response
[06:53] <tom__> my question is, how do i download the updates
[06:53] <tom__> it asks me for a password
[06:53] <Trixsey> so fill it in
[06:53] <Trixsey> lol
[06:53] <tom__> i use both the admin and my current ones
[06:53] <Sluff> Your password.
[06:53] <tom__> and it comes with these errors
[06:53] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: actually, you could try it, but i doubt it would work....
[06:53] <Trixsey> lolo
[06:53] <Trixsey> how do you log in to the comp then?
[06:53] <cafuego_> KarlosII: file. not directory.
[06:53] <spektor> anyone know how to diable alsa on boot for the livecd?
[06:53] <KarlosII> oh sorry
[06:53] <tom__> The passwords are correct, ill get you guys the errors
[06:54] <Vilhelms> I'm trying to install libwnck-dev as a dependancy for something else but when I try I get the following output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5879/plain/ What could I do to solve this?
[06:54] <spektor> automagicly Trixsey
[06:54] <KarlosII> cafuego gallery2 -> /etc/gallery2/apache.conf
[06:54] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: I understand tht perfectly, sometimes one does have to also do testing on the windows machine, tht command would work for both the printers & I would have an idea what is there :)
[06:54] <slosticflier> it's gottbe in samba
[06:54] <KarlosII> seems to be linked
[06:55] <FurthuR> Any of you guys know howto get a console based application to run a certain file... as in it would pop up gnome-terminal and run the program with the file you clicked
[06:55] <shirish> slosticflier: we have figured it out tht it is something to do with samba but what, how devil in the details
[06:55] <tom__> "Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager:child Terminated with 1 status
[06:55] <spektor> anyone know how to diable alsa on boot for the livecd? anyone?
[06:55] <nnliu> " sudo swapon /dev/sda2" turns on my swap, any1 know how to make my swap partition automatically load?
[06:55] <slosticflier> i got the shovel out
[06:55] <KarlosII> Tom__ enter your password
[06:55] <kungfugoat> getting mediamonkey running under wine was foiled by windows validation
[06:55] <kungfugoat> I don't have a single windows machine to validate
[06:55] <cafuego_> KarlosII: Yup, that's fine. Is the line 'Alias /gallery2 /usr/share/gallery2' present in that file>
[06:56] <MikesHardLinux> lol!
[06:56] <KarlosII> checking
[06:56] <FurthuR> spektor : there should be a boot argument for that
[06:56] <Sluff> A symlink would work also eh?
[06:56] <FurthuR> spektor : look at docu
[06:56] <philc_> does anyone know if the icons from the human theme are licensed as such where I could use a few of them on a website of mine?
[06:56] <kungfugoat> anybody know where I can get a copy of MDAC 2.8?
[06:56] <yell0w> FurthuR, what do you mean ?
[06:56] <KarlosII> cafuego yes
[06:57] <tom__> This is odd
[06:57] <tom__> im using the correct pass
[06:57] <cafuego_> KarlosII: Hrm. /usr/share/gallery2 exists?
[06:57] <tom__> the one i use to log
[06:57] <KarlosII> checking
[06:57] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: just extra info for possible trouble-shooting. this page has some good info on setting up printing to windows pcs: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html
[06:57] <cafuego_> kungfugoat: Yup, #windows ;-)
[06:57] <tom__> then i use another, random wrong pass and get the same error
[06:57] <spektor> FurthuR: thanks
[06:58] <slosticflier> i got it let me work it out
[06:58] <KarlosII> cafuego ye3s, remember my localhost points to /var/www/
[06:58] <Sluff> Do you have multiple usernames on the system Tom?
[06:58] <Vilhelms> I'm trying to install libwnck-dev as a dependancy for something else but when I try I get the following output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5879/plain/ What could I do to solve this?
[06:58] <tom__> yes
[06:58] <CapRiCoRN^80> hi ! any one who has installed ubuntu on sun blade 150 ?
[06:58] <tom__> I have the root account, which i named root
[06:58] <cafuego_> KarlosII: DoucmentRoot doesn't affect those aliases.
[06:58] <KarlosII> k
[06:58] <Sluff> Eeewwwww......
[06:58] <tom__> and this user account, which i named tom
[06:58] <Frogzoo> !sparc
[06:58] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[06:58] <cafuego_> KarlosII: I'd kill apache with a hammer and start it back up. Also make sure firefox isn't caching a 404 (it can do that).
[06:58] <Sluff> Not a good idea.
[06:59] <tom__> Why not?
[06:59] <Sluff> Root already existed.
[06:59] <KarlosII> yah I've tried  ff from 2 diff comps...k I will kill -9
[06:59] <tom__> oh damn lol
[06:59] <Sluff> I guess you probably overwrote it.
[06:59] <tom__> shit lol
[06:59] <Sluff> I saw a fix for that.  Let me dig it up....
[06:59] <spektor> FurthuR: can't find anything in the ubuntu documentation, any other doc I should refer to?
[07:00] <sstchur> cafuego_: so... after installing the restricted modules... what more do I need?  Nothing seems to have changed
[07:00] <liusk> hi
[07:00] <tom__> Hello
[07:01] <Sluff> Hang on.
[07:01] <cafuego_> sstchur: sudo modprobe ath_pci
[07:01] <shirish> MikesHardLinux, slosticflier : guys will just make some tea & then back on :)
[07:01] <cafuego_> sstchur: (on reboot, stuff should auto-load)
[07:02] <KarlosII> cafuego dunno if this info is relevant
[07:02] <Sluff> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34089
[07:02] <KarlosII> cafuego apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[07:02] <slosticflier> i got the command working on the syntax
[07:02] <sstchur> cafuego_:  okay, that's kind of what I though... I tried that (forgot the sudo) and the modprobe failed..... I then rebooted, tried it with the sudo, but this time I get module ath_pci not found
[07:02] <KarlosII> just a fyi
[07:02] <cafuego_> KarlosII: shouldn't be
[07:02] <cafuego_> sstchur: ghhrrrmmm..
[07:02] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier: cool. is the command smbclient?
[07:02] <Sluff> Read the entire thing.  First there is a way to add a password to the root account, then a way on down further how to fix this problem.
[07:02] <tom__> thanks
[07:02] <KarlosII> cafuego k server restarted
[07:03] <cafuego_> sstchur: can you check if 'dpkg -l restricted-modules-$(uname -r);' lists 'em as installed?
[07:03] <cafuego_> Um, with linux- in front too
[07:03] <slosticflier> no lpstat -a will show status of available printers,
[07:03] <slosticflier> still working on test pager
[07:03] <Luke> will someone type the word "fluke" so I can see if my highlight allowes it?
[07:04] <sstchur> cafuego_: I must have screwed up somewhere:  "No packages found matching restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic."
[07:04] <KarlosII> cafuego The requested URL /gallery2/ was not found on this server.
[07:04] <KarlosII> Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.4.2-1.1 Server
[07:04] <cafuego_> sstchur: Ok, retry :-)
[07:04] <Luke> sstchur: its called "linux-restructed-modules"
[07:04] <cafuego_> KarlosII: Your apache2 is evil.
[07:04] <||drake||> how to burn dvds?
[07:04] <KarlosII> I agree............
[07:05] <sstchur> Luke: ah... thanks... still verified that they're not installed
[07:05] <shatrat> ||drake||, use GnomeBaker?
[07:05] <KarlosII> cafuego but ubuntu installed it......
[07:05] <||drake||> come default?
[07:05] <Luke> sstchur: np - will you type the word "fluke" so i can test my highlights on irc?
[07:05] <sstchur> fluke
[07:05] <KarlosII> cafuego if I can just rest everything to defaults and try again somehow
[07:05] <KarlosII> reset*
[07:05] <sstchur> that's it?
[07:05] <Luke> sstchur: sweet it worke d- thanks
[07:06] <shatrat> ||drake||, I dont remember, I bet its in universe repositores at the least though
[07:06] <sstchur> glad to help :-)
[07:06] <sstchur> no idea what I did
[07:06] <Luke> =D
[07:06] <||drake||> couldnt find it
[07:06] <||drake||> wait
[07:06] <Luke> sstchur: it highlights my name whenever someone says it in channel but i was getting highlighted on "fluke" as well as "luke" =D
[07:06] <||drake||> found
[07:06] <BHSPitLappy> hey all
[07:06] <Luke> BHSPitLappy: yea
[07:06] <||drake||> fluke luked
[07:06] <Luke> hey*
[07:06] <sstchur> cafuego_:  ok that time it worked, and now knetworkmanager is picking up my wireless
[07:06] <KarlosII> cafuego I've tried completely removing gallery
[07:07] <sstchur> cafuego_:  on the freak chance that I don't see wireless when I reboot, what would that mean?  Is it even possible?
[07:07] <Luke> nite nite all
[07:07] <KarlosII> cafuegoI could try a complete removal of apache2 and reinstall
[07:07] <BHSPitLappy> I have broken dependencies, on a system with no internet access;   It needs these 7 packages, which I've obtained manually and have on a disk, but I don't know how to tell it to use them.
[07:07] <BHSPitLappy> I can't install them manually, since I can't install ANYTHING (broken packages)
[07:08] <tom__> Sluff, you there?
[07:08] <KarlosII> BHSP sudo dpkg -i "name of dir" make sure you are in the dir with the pkg
[07:08] <Sluff> Yes Tom.
[07:08] <KarlosII> err "name of file"
[07:08] <tom__> yeah, it said use the pass of my current user as sudo pass
[07:08] <tom__> but its like, not working >.<
[07:09] <Sluff> Yeah after you fix the problems you created by creating a root user.
[07:09] <kungfugoat> ok, got MDAC
[07:09] <KarlosII> did u enter a password at setup tom?
[07:09] <slosticflier> syntax is lp -d (printername) filename
[07:09] <kungfugoat> MDAC now requires IE 4
[07:09] <kungfugoat> arghh!
[07:09] <tom__> karlos, i created a user called "Root" which seems to have overridden the actuall root user
[07:09] <tom__> lol
[07:09] <KarlosII> cafuego, wondering if your still able to help?
[07:10] <KarlosII> Tom_ oh geesh
[07:10] <tom__> mabey i should just re install
[07:10] <Sluff> It should tell you how to remove that user and create one correctly.  It's all about access really.
[07:10] <KarlosII> just reinstall its easier
[07:10] <eshaase> does ubuntu use .deb files for its packages?
[07:10] <KarlosII> less time
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> KarlosII: heh, I didn't expect it to install.
[07:10] <cafuego_> KarlosII: phone
[07:10] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier: do you think that will also work on a printer shared from a win98 box? maybe lp -d \\192.168.123.123\printer_name file_name
[07:10] <tom__> Windoze has made me stupidider
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> eshaase: yeah
[07:10] <tom__> brb
[07:10] <KarlosII> cafuego oh ok sorry :)
[07:10] <tom__> Reinstalling
[07:10] <slosticflier> mines shared to a 98 box
[07:10] <yustaguy> Hello
[07:10] <Sluff> Tom.  Hang on...
[07:10] <tom__> kk
[07:10] <Vilhelms> I just installed Avant but the icon for the current selected window is always missing, until I select another window and then the one that was missing comes back and the other one dissapears. What could be the problem?
[07:11] <slosticflier> checking it now
[07:11] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier: to or from?
[07:11] <noodles12> how come vnc has a slower visual refresh rate than using windows remote desktop/
[07:11] <noodles12> ?
[07:11] <eshaase> BHSPitLappy: so whats this complaint i remember reading about that ubuntu's packages are incompatible with debian's
[07:11] <MikesHardLinux> noodles12, have you tried adjusting compression settings for vnc?
[07:12] <slosticflier> ok here it is:
[07:12] <kungfugoat> nooslwa12: forget vnc
[07:12] <noodles12> MikesHardLinux: i don't knwo hwo to do that.... >.<.
[07:12] <slosticflier> you print from directory file is in
[07:12] <BHSPitLappy> eshaase: no clue, I've used debian packages.
[07:12] <Sluff> I see the dilemna now Tom.
[07:12] <slosticflier> lp filename
[07:12] <kungfugoat> use either X tunnelled through SSH or freenx
[07:12] <Sluff> YOu need access to add a user.
[07:12] <yustaguy> Excuse any breach of etiquette...but live ubuntu cd's won't run on my XP machine. I suspect DEP. Is there a way around that? Thanks for any help
[07:12] <tom__> yeah lol
[07:13] <noodles12> MikesHardLinux: i just set-up tightvnc on the windows machine and used vncviewer to connect.
[07:13] <slosticflier> just tested it, I can here printer spooling
[07:13] <Sluff> Neither account, or any account you made can get by the ?
[07:13] <tom__> well, when i try to log onto the user called Rott in the login screen
[07:14] <tom__> it says "This user cannot login from here" or somthing along those lines
[07:14] <slosticflier> mikes_hard did you get that>
[07:14] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier: shirish has an epson R230 on a win98 box, and wants to access it from an ubuntu box. it doesn't seem that lp filename would work?
[07:14] <Sluff> Hmmm.
[07:15] <slosticflier> the printer here is hooked up to a 98 box, works fine
[07:15] <MikesHardLinux> noodles12: tightvnc has a setting fro compression somewhere in there that will affect the speed. I havent used it in a while....
[07:15] <noodles12> MikesHardLinux: would i be changing it on the server or clientside?
[07:15] <slosticflier> Ubuntu is oodles easier to set up network printers on
[07:16] <MikesHardLinux> noodles12: on the client side. i know it sounds weird, but it works :-)
[07:16] <Dr_willis> slosticflier,  i agree with you there.
[07:16] <tom__> Sluff, im going to reinstall ok, ill be right back ^^_
[07:16] <dabaR> MikesHardLinux: has shirish tried adding the printer through the gnome-cups-add dialog?
[07:16] <dynamicreflux> anyone have any idea why my colors are distorted in Mplayer when viewing content
[07:16] <dynamicreflux> seems to have a purple hue
[07:16] <dabaR> tom__: What is your issue?
[07:16] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier, it isn't so much that as much as there is no guarantee that the R230 is even supported, since it isnt listed as being supported
[07:17] <slosticflier> I took me forever to get windows to print to it, took me 2 sec on this
[07:17] <slosticflier> ahh i see, does he have the driver?
[07:17] <tom__> I think i over wrote the root account and cant downlaod updates because my passwords always wrong
[07:17] <shirish> MikesHardLinux:  slosticflier dabaR: hi guys i'm back :)
[07:17] <dabaR> tom__: no need to reinsatll.
[07:17] <Trixsey> I can't get Samba to work. I try to connect to my Vista machine and I get prompted for user/pw.. I tried inputting both user/pw for my "root"/admin in Vista..then I tried another account I made specifically for this.. neither works
[07:17] <Trixsey> Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: server".
[07:17] <Trixsey> I get this after 3-4 failed attempts
[07:17] <Trixsey> Ideas?
[07:17] <MikesHardLinux> i was just giving shirish some possible trouble-shooting tips in case the regular install didn't work
[07:17] <Sluff> OKay Tom.
[07:17] <dabaR> tom__: So, open a terminal, and type sudo ls, then see whether your password works.
[07:17] <haary> can anyone recommend a current and cheap notebook that works with Linux?
[07:17] <glok> anyone have a suggestion ... stumped on why samba works from one xp box but not another, using same xp account/pwd
[07:17] <Vilhelms> I just installed Avant but the icon for the current selected window is always missing, until I select another window and then the one that was missing comes back and the other one disapears. What could be the problem?
[07:18] <slosticflier> shirish, do you have the driver for your printer?
[07:18] <dabaR> haary: http://system76.com/
[07:18] <Sluff> Just create a user for yourself.  ANd you should be fine.
[07:18] <dabaR> glok: did you add a machine account for the machine?
[07:18] <shirish> slosticflier: from what MikesHardLinux has been telling me, the R200 series is okish, don't know if there is one written for the R230 specifically
[07:18] <tom__> Tom is not in the sudouseres list. This incident will be reported
[07:19] <david> ok i got my wallpapper woring ing in fluxbox but how do save it so idont have to run the root command evey time i start FB
[07:19] <dynamicreflux> anyone have any idea why my colors are distorted in Mplayer when viewing content
[07:19] <Trixsey> Give me suggestions!
[07:19] <Trixsey> Save me!
[07:19] <glok> dabar, i have put the new machine into hosts.allow ... didn't see what adding a machine accnt means
[07:19] <glok> what command?
[07:19] <Sluff> Whoa.  He;s being reported.
[07:19] <dabaR> glok: see help for smbpasswd
[07:19] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: one thing I found that may help if the add printer thing doesn't work is from the cli you can list all the shares from the windows box like this: smbclient -L 192.168.123.123 . At least you'll know your computer "sees" the shares
[07:19] <Sluff> See any black helicopters yet? ):
[07:19] <asdf_> c
[07:19] <tom__> >.< thats bad right
[07:19] <Trixsey> help me!!
[07:19] <Trixsey> Help me!! :'(
[07:20] <glok> dabar oic - i am using the same xp account on the boxes btwn what works and doesn't -
[07:20] <Sluff> NOt really. :)
[07:20] <tom__> oh ok lol
[07:20] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: what is 192.168.123.123 ?
[07:20] <dabaR> tom__: restart the computer, and press escape to get to the grub menu. select rescue mode, and it will get you to a root prompt. At it, type adduser tom admin. then restart, and voila. Do you understand?
[07:20] <Trixsey> Save me!! :'(
[07:20] <dynamicreflux> shoot no one knows how to fix mplayer?
[07:20] <tom__> yup
[07:20] <KarlosII> hmm
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> okay
[07:20] <glok> so if the accnt on linux was created for one machine, now i use it off another machine - should that work or no?
[07:20] <dabaR> Trixsey: don't do that, please.
[07:20] <tom__> brb
[07:20] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: put the ip address of the windows box in there
[07:20] <tom__> tyvm
[07:20] <dabaR> tom__: good luck.
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> to fix my broken dependencies, I still need to remove one package (musixtex-slurps), but I can't remove it.  It errors out.
[07:21] <haary> dabaR: Thanks. But I'm afraid they don't have resell rartners in Europe...
[07:21] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: I can only suggest chaning the video driver within mplayer and see if that helps.
[07:21] <dynamicreflux> how does one do that ardchoille
[07:21] <Sluff> It is his root account that is hosed.  Can you adduser root admin to fix it?
[07:21] <dabaR> haary: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops :)
[07:21] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: ok will do, although I'm able to see the hdd of networked comps, but not the printer :(
[07:22] <Sluff> Maybe after you remove the non-admin'd root.
[07:22] <slosticflier> the command will work once the printer is set up,
[07:22] <dabaR> glok: there is this concept of a machine account. read the help for smbpasswd
[07:22] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: Open mplayer, right-click the main window, choose Preferences, go to the Video tab and choose a different video driver. This has sometimes helped me fix things.
[07:22] <dynamicreflux> interesting
[07:22] <dynamicreflux> thanks man
[07:22] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: are you sure those comps are sharing a printer? if so, then that is strange
[07:22] <glok> dabar, ok thanks i missed that concept, will check it out
[07:22] <haary> dabaR: Thanks again
[07:23] <slosticflier> but there has to be 100 printers on the epson list, and you have the one that isn't there
[07:23] <Keitaru> how do you install .svg files aka dock
[07:23] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: yup I'm sure, but still will re-check them again when I visit his place in the evening
 I can't get Samba to work. I try to connect to my Vista machine and I get prompted for user/pw.. I tried inputting both user/pw for my "root"/admin in Vista..then I tried another account I made specifically for this.. neither works
 Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: server".
 I get this after 3-4 failed attempts
 Ideas?
[07:24] <kungfugoat> I can't believe I have to install office 2000 just to get mediamonkey to work under wine
[07:24] <MikesHardLinux> slosticflier: ya! LOL!! that's my problem with wireless nics. I always end up with an atheros nic, and have never set one up atheros sucessfully in linux :-(
[07:24] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: from any windows box, in the CLI I just need to type echo some text \\ipaddress\printer's shared name right?
[07:24] <Pie-rate> is there a good utility to change Vorbis .ogg file properties (like genre, artist)
[07:24] <dabaR> Trixsey: please keep your question in one line, or paste to pastebin, and link here.
[07:25] <ardchoille> Pie-rate: Try easytag
[07:25] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: yes
[07:25] <ardchoille> !easytag
[07:25] <ubotu> easytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.12-1 (edgy), package size 748 kB, installed size 2428 kB
[07:25] <plex0r> can anyone help me with beryl?
[07:25] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: you forgot the >
[07:25] <dynamicreflux> ardchoille, im not seeing anything in reference to a video driver
[07:25] <chris_> does anyone here in Ubuntu use Yakuake?
[07:25] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: Are you in the video tab?
[07:25] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: echo some text > \\ip_address\printer_share_name
[07:25] <shirish> MikesHardLinux: my mistake lol :P its direction pipe
[07:25] <dynamicreflux> this is the DEFUALT movie player ardchoille
[07:26] <slosticflier> shirish, try installing the generic stylus photo and see if that works
[07:26] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: YEs, the one installed from the Ubuntu repos
[07:26] <dynamicreflux> there is general / display / audio
[07:26] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: that's a nice simple trouble-shooting step because it doesn't require any driver
[07:26] <dynamicreflux> under display, there is no video driver
[07:26] <plex0r> i installed beryl and it installed fine and it runs, but it looks distroted and green
[07:26] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: You need to go to the "Video" tab
[07:26] <dynamicreflux> there is no "video" tab
[07:27] <dynamicreflux> i think u are using a different prog
[07:27] <shirish> slosticflier: the drivers & stuff come much l8ter for me, right now I'm looking for a simple one-line command so tht I can talk to the printer
[07:27] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: Did you right-click and choose properties?
[07:27] <Pie-rate> ardchoille: it has a dependency of libvorbisfile3, will libvorbisfile3 just work with rhythmbox?
[07:27] <cry0x> chris_: I have it installed and use it frequently
[07:27] <shirish> slosticflier: something similar to what MikesHardLinux told me about the windows one
[07:27] <ardchoille> Pie-rate: no idea
[07:27] <plex0r> i installed beryl and it installed fine and it runs, but it looks distroted and green
[07:27] <dynamicreflux> yes sure did
[07:27] <chris_> cryox you're using Ubuntu?
[07:27] <cry0x> indeed
[07:27] <shirish> slosticflier: if tht works then one can try getting a better printer driver :)
[07:28] <stylus> slosticflier, :P
[07:28] <MikesHardLinux> shirish: I gotta do some homework. I hope you get the printers going without any problems!
[07:28] <plex0r> i installed beryl and it installed fine and it runs, but it looks distroted and green
[07:28] <stylus> You cannot install me!
[07:28] <dynamicreflux> wait, ardchoille, what am i right clicking on
[07:28] <dynamicreflux> i dont understand where this properties thing is
[07:28] <slosticflier> ok this will tell you if your box see's the printer
[07:28] <slosticflier> lpstas -a
[07:28] <KarlosII> cafuego I will come back later I ned to get some sleep
[07:28] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: You should right click on the mplayer main window
[07:28] <dynamicreflux> this is "totem movie player"
[07:28] <cry0x> k
[07:28] <slosticflier> lpstat -a
[07:28] <dynamicreflux> unless totem isnt what i should be using
[07:28] <plex0r> i installed beryl and it installed fine and it runs, but it looks distroted and green
[07:28] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: Well, that isn't mplayer, now is it?
[07:29] <dynamicreflux> <- idiot, ardchoille
[07:29] <shirish> slosticflier: ok will try tht one also :)
[07:29] <dynamicreflux> well, is totem any good or should i trash it
[07:29] <Trixsey> Thank you for your advice, dabaR. I have now prepared a text on mathbin. You may find it at: http://www.mathbin.net/8036
[07:29] <ardchoille> 22:20:19 < dynamicreflux> shoot no one knows how to fix mplayer?
[07:29] <KarlosII> cafuego k
[07:29] <NoEvidenZ> !lamp
[07:29] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:29] <dynamicreflux> why the heck does it say Mplayer in my apps bar, and it brings totem then
[07:30] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: I was answering your question pertaining to fixing mplayer, why am I an idiot for doing that?
[07:30] <dynamicreflux> no
[07:30] <dynamicreflux> i am
[07:30] <dynamicreflux> lol
[07:30] <dynamicreflux> im the idiot
[07:30] <ardchoille> lol
[07:30] <slosticflier> if that doesn't work, use add printer wizard (it takes 1 min)  look for the name of the box the printer is hooked to
[07:30] <dabaR> Trixsey: what about checking whether your users are allowed to log in remotely, is there such a thing in vista?
[07:30] <slosticflier> then if it has a printer listed, your box see's it
[07:31] <dynamicreflux> ah i got it now
[07:31] <dynamicreflux> thanks ardchoille
[07:31] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: IMHO, tote is the worst media player on the planet. MPlayer, however, ROCKS!
[07:31] <dynamicreflux> understood
[07:32] <david> how do i save my Esetroot settings?
[07:32] <shirish> slosticflier: wouldn't lpstat -p would be better?
[07:32] <david> in fluxbox
[07:32] <chris_> cry0x did you check out Tilda?
[07:32] <ubm> I think i have found a problem with fluxbox running on the latest ubuntu build. When i launched nautilus from xterm as root it shutdown fluxbox and my background changed back to default as in what you see during login... anyone else experience this issue?
[07:32] <dynamicreflux> tilda
[07:32] <slosticflier> either one works
[07:32] <dynamicreflux> is very very unstable
[07:32] <cry0x> chris_ no, is it similar?
[07:33] <cry0x> I use gnome so I don't really like having and kde apps installed
[07:33] <cry0x> so I use aterm more often
[07:33] <chris_> unstable how? it is working perfectly for me
[07:33] <chris_> check out Tilda.
[07:33] <chris_> does the same thing
[07:33] <chris_> only it's better
[07:33] <shirish> slosticflier: ok will try all tht one by one, this is installed by default when ur using CUPS or something else has to be installed?
[07:34] <david> my backgroud doeosn't stay either after i restart fluxbox
[07:34] <shirish> slosticflier: I meant the lpstat command
[07:34] <slosticflier> lpstat -a or -p will show printers that your box see's
[07:34] <ubm> david have you tried running nautilus as sudo from xterm?
[07:34] <ubm> see if it kills fluxbox on your machine
[07:35] <david> no not yet
[07:35] <slosticflier> but if your network settings aren't set up for it, the easiest way is to use the wizard
[07:35] <ubm> please let me know if it does because this could be very very bad
[07:35] <shirish> slosticflier: ok cool, will try them, thnx for all the help :)
[07:35] <ardchoille> ubm: First of all, never run a GUI app with sudo, you need to use gksudo for GUI apps. Secondly, nautilus manages the desktop and if you run nautilus, it will change the desktop bg and disable any other menus for other window managers.
[07:36] <MyGhetek> how do i enable dhcp on interface eth0 in command line?
[07:37] <slosticflier> anyone here install kaffeine 0.8.3?
[07:37] <Trixsey> dabaR, when connecting to another computer, do you use an account on the computer you are connecting TO? Or do you use an account on the computer you are connected FROM, configured to be accepted by the target machine?
[07:37] <dabaR> connecting to, Trixsey
[07:38] <Trixsey> Then this should be working!
[07:38] <Trixsey> Gosh!
[07:38] <Trixsey> :'(
[07:38] <dabaR> if you want to connect to your home computer from its keyboard, you use that computer's login
[07:38] <ubm> ardchoille yes you are correct when you say that, but why does nautilus do this is my question.. thanks for your response.
[07:38] <dabaR> Trixsey: read a little, I am busy atm. http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1175590&SiteID=17
[07:39] <ardchoille> ubm: Because nautilus, by default, manages the desktop when it runs. If you use Fluxbox and use run nautilus, it will change the desktop bg and disable FLuxbox's desktop menus.
[07:39] <ubm> ardchoille is there a way for me to bring up xterm or do i need to reboot?
[07:40] <ubm> i want to restart fluxbox
[07:40] <ed1t> how much space does a new ubuntu installation takes?
[07:40] <Sluff> CD says 2 gb.
[07:41] <ardchoille> ubm: No need to reboot. You can simply CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC to restart X and log in again. But, you need to learn how to disable nautilus' management of the desktop. I'll show yo how to do that when you're logged back in.
[07:41] <ubm> ardchoille you are the shiznic my man thank you so much!
[07:41] <ardchoille> ubm: You're welcome :)
[07:41] <ubm> brb
[07:43] <dynamicreflux> ardchoille: what is the best option for watching embedded .mpg's in firefox
[07:44] <ubm> ardchoille i'm back and I patiently await your response.
[07:44] <david> no that dint work when i resarted fluxbox no background
[07:45] <ardchoille> ubm: Ok, hold on..
[07:45] <ardchoille> dynamicreflux: No idea, I don't allow videos in web browsers.
[07:45] <hasrat_usa> i need some help really badly! :(
[07:45] <dynamicreflux> hrm interesting, alright
[07:45] <hasrat_usa> i'm using a ubuntu live CD and chatting from Gaim right now
[07:46] <hasrat_usa> and i want to know wheather or not it will support my nVIDIA geforce card after i install it to my HDD
[07:46] <david> it should
[07:46] <cry0x> chris_ tilda seems okay, what key do you use as your hotkey?
[07:46] <david> i have a geforce and no probs
[07:46] <ardchoille> ubm: http://rafb.net/p/iCjhsj74.html
[07:46] <Sluff> Should look exactly the same as it does now.
[07:47] <david> try automatix to get right 3d drivers for it
[07:47] <hasrat_usa> and also, i used to have only a NTFS partition (size: 160 GB) and XP was installed on that. now how do i create two seperate partitions (one for swap and another for linux file system) out of this 160 GB space? i don't want to lose windows XP. i wanna dual boot
[07:47] <ardchoille> ubm: After you have done that, launching nautilus should not change anything when it runs.
[07:48] <cry0x> exit
[07:48] <cry0x> thanks, but no thanks. Had this highlighted instead of my terminal
[07:49] <ardchoille> cry0x: hehe
[07:50] <hasrat_usa> how can i make a free space out of this 160 GB partition without affecting windows XP?
[07:50] <hasrat_usa> i have GParted right in front of me
[07:51] <Sluff> When you install there is an option to repartition your drive to add space.
[07:51] <hasrat_usa> ok and?
[07:51] <hasrat_usa> would that do harm to windows XP?
[07:51] <ubm> ardchoille that's the winning ticket! It worked like a charm and all is well. :)
[07:51] <Sluff> In theory. no...
[07:51] <ardchoille> ubm: W00T!
[07:51] <ubm> haha
[07:52] <hasrat_usa> okay sluff thanks a lot by the way when i install, four options come up regarding partitioning. exactly which one should i go for?
[07:52] <ardchoille> ubm: iirc, fluxbox has a run dialog.. I think it comes up with ALT+F2
[07:52] <tom__> nooooooo@@!!!!
[07:52] <ubm> yeah well at least i have enough humility 'being a humble' person to ask questions and not give up and never give back in to M$.
[07:52] <regress> how can I change the installation dir synaptic uses?
[07:52] <ardchoille> ubm: You can use that even if your menus are borked.
[07:52] <unperson> What is the proposed repository?
[07:52] <tom__>  /wrists
[07:53] <ardchoille> ubm: That's very wise of you ;)
[07:53] <unperson> I have some idea what backports is.
[07:53] <amonkey> during bootup, the loading bar hangs for a good minute for something, how can i find out what it is?
[07:53] <Sluff> Should be one something like repartition from free space.  I can't remember exact words.
[07:53] <dabaR> hasrat_usa: you should resize right in the installer. there is an option for that. Always back up important data before doing things to your hard disk, like this partitioning, it is 99.9, or some high percentage safe, but you do not want to the the 0.01, do you?
[07:53] <variant> amonkey: it sounds like dhcp, do you use dhcp to get an ip address?
[07:53] <variant> Sluff: gparted
[07:53] <tom__> damit, i get update manager working to be told i need to download a new ubuntu coz im Out of date
[07:54] <ardchoille> tom__: Which Ubuntu are you using?
[07:54] <Sluff> I was going to mention that.  There is always the chance this could wipe your windows.
[07:54] <variant> tom__: what does lsb-release -a say?
[07:54] <tom__> ahahaa lol wait a sec
[07:54] <ardchoille> tom__: lsb_release -a
[07:55] <regress> how can I change the installation dir synaptic uses- is it an easy google question?
[07:55] <tom__> lsb n\a release 5.04, code name horay
[07:55] <hasrat_usa> should i go for ext3 journaling system?
[07:56] <ardchoille> tom__: The current stable is Edgy (6.10)
[07:56] <tom__> ahahaa
[07:56] <variant> regress: well, you could symlink it to another directory. there may be an official way to do it but that will have the same affect and wont cause any problems
[07:56] <tom__> i orded a cd ages ago
[07:56] <regress> using Edgy in case that's important
[07:56] <Sluff> Is that the default?
[07:56] <tom__> like AGES ago
[07:56] <regress> oh
[07:56] <regress> that would be nice
[07:56] <zcrxsir88> can someone help me with a Ubuntu dual boot question!!?!?!
[07:56] <regress> my hd is too full now, trying to put it on a different partition
[07:56] <variant> regress: by installation dir do you mean where the programs are installed to or where it downloads the packages to?
[07:56] <ardchoille> tom__: I would imagine that ShipIt is backed up, given the popularity of Ubuntu.
[07:56] <tom__> would it help if i downlaod the updates
[07:56] <regress> variant, both would be nice
[07:57] <tom__> would it update me to the next stable version?
[07:57] <ardchoille> tom__:  you on DSL?
[07:57] <tom__> yeah, broadband
[07:57] <tom__> NZ lol
[07:57] <Sluff> download image file.
[07:57] <zcrxsir88> anyone there?!
[07:57] <ardchoille> tom__: You can download the latest and burn it: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[07:57] <tom__> but
[07:57] <regress> so would symlinking kill the programs I have installed already?
[07:57] <variant> regress: well, if you have a spare partition you can move the larger directories out to the spare and symlink it.. for example /usr/share is pretty big normaly so mv /usr/share /media/sparepartition/ && ln -s /media/sparepartition /usr/share
[07:57] <Atom-> zcrxsir88 just ask your question
[07:58] <tom__> if its an iso then what can i sue 2 burn it
[07:58] <amonkey> variant, thats what i thought too. yes i do use dhcp, how can i disable it trying to find a dhcp address on boot?
[07:58] <variant> regress: no
[07:58] <regress> ah, that's a nice command, hehe
[07:58] <regress> thanks
[07:58] <ardchoille> tom__: I believe nautilus can burn an ISO as an image
[07:58] <regress> I'll give it a try
[07:58] <variant> amonkey: well, if your using dhcp then you should leave it.. otherwise you wont be able to connect to the net?
[07:58] <Sluff> doubleclicking file should let you burn an ISO image.
[07:58] <ardchoille> tom__: see what Sluff just said ^^
[07:59] <variant> tom__: just burn it and it will chose how to do it auto
[07:59] <tom__> So why exactly is MS stil lable to sell windows, Linux seems so much better, seriously, doubt Explorer can burn iso
[07:59] <zcrxsir88> Ok. So I have a 120 GB HD, 60 GB is Win XP, Remainder is Ubuntu (on it now ;)...  But Grub isnt showing that I have XP installed.  How do I get to dual boot.  Right now it defaults to Ubuntu Since I just installed it!
[07:59] <elyon225> tom__: Windows has a much larger marketing budget :)
[07:59] <variant> !dualboot | zcrxsir88
[07:59] <ubotu> zcrxsir88: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:59] <ardchoille> tom__: Windows is still around?! ;)
[07:59] <Sluff> And Satanic influences. :)
[07:59] <elyon225> tom__: Most people I even MENTION Linux to have no idea what it is.
[07:59] <stonarmusic> anyone know how to change the date format in 'Evolution' to us-style?
[07:59] <amonkey> variant, it's a laptop. i don't want it grabbing dhcp at boot anyway.
[07:59] <elyon225> Sluff: That too.
[08:00] <tom__> meh
[08:00] <ardchoille> Sluff: hehe
[08:00] <variant> amonkey: hmm, it might not even be that thats causing the problem.. i beleive during boot you can press escape or something to disable the ubuntu splash screen
[08:00] <variant> amonkey: or boot with nofb in grub options
[08:01] <stonarmusic> when i try to set the exception for recurrances it comes up 14/02/07 instead of 02/14/07
[08:01] <tom__> MS should seriously start giving up, whats better 600 or so Private workers working on a behemothof an os, or thousands, an entire community working on certian Distros
[08:01] <variant> amonkey: that way you will see for sure whats causing the problem before we go disableing anything
[08:01] <tom__> oh well, one day =P
[08:01] <dabaR> tom__: worked?
[08:01] <variant> tom__: true, but !offtopic
[08:01] <david> ive also tryed fbsetbg and it still dosent save backgroud perminantly
[08:01] <variant> david: you are using fluxbox?
[08:01] <nrdb> Hi, I am using the C command "ioctl(cdrom,CDROMEJECT,0)" to open the CD ROM tray, if there is no CD in the drive the command returns an error and errno is 5 indicating an 'IO error'.  Am I doing something wrong ?
[08:02] <ardchoille> tom__: Well, If M$ employed intelligence, then Windows wouldn't be the crap it is to begin with.
[08:02] <elyon225> tom__: I'm not even sure MS knows about Linux... haven't seen a Linux version of IE yet ;)
[08:02] <david> yes
[08:02] <tom__> oh right, so back on topic
[08:02] <tom__> lol
[08:02] <dabaR> tom__: did you get your sudo back?
[08:02] <ardchoille> oops, yeah, ot.. I'll shutup now.
[08:02] <amonkey> variant, nofb, perfect. thanks
[08:02] <tom__> Doubt MS would make IE 4 Linux, any way, why would ya want it lol
[08:02] <variant> david: it's been so long since i used flux, you mighth ave to set it int he configfile
[08:02] <tom__> yeah i got sudo ^^_
[08:02] <tom__> but
[08:02] <zcrxsir88> Ok, so that help file for dual boot didnt really help. I have both OS's installed.  I need help getting Grub working properly!
[08:02] <dabaR> tom__: you were gonna reinstall:P
[08:02] <zcrxsir88> so that I can dual boot
[08:02] <tom__> i ahve to download the latest version of ubuntu
[08:03] <variant> zcrxsir88: it tells you how to do it in that help file
[08:03] <tom__> becuase im using 5.04
[08:03] <dabaR> !upgrade > tom__
[08:03] <david> ill try that thanks
[08:03] <tom__> so im D/Ling it now
[08:03] <Sluff> Your fine Tom.  It's your Ubuntu that's outdated. :)
[08:03] <chiefbearclaw> lo everyone
[08:03] <dabaR> tom__: see private message from ubotu. You can upgrade from this version to the newest.
[08:03] <dabaR> tom__: one version at a time:)
[08:04] <zcat[1] > !i815
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i815 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <tom__> lol
[08:04] <tom__> oh well, i started DLing, its only gona take
[08:04] <tom__> 2 and a half hrs
[08:05] <ardchoille> tom__: upgrading from where you are to Edgy would likely take longer than downloading Edgy anyway.
[08:05] <Sluff> That's not terrible.
[08:05] <sivik> how do i set the suders to ask for a password evertime i do a command wtih sudo
[08:06] <sivik> how do i set sudoers so it always asks for a password when doing a command as sudo
[08:06] <variant> sivik: use te visudo command
[08:06] <sivik> variant: but i don't know what i need to add
[08:06] <variant> sivik: we heard you the first time. please dont repeat your self liket hat
[08:07] <sivik> variant, well, no one answered me
[08:07] <ardchoille> variant: He'll need the proper syntax to enter into viduso
[08:07] <sivik> variant, i tried something before and its not working
[08:07] <tom__> sooo, does ubunto come with a C compiler
[08:07] <sivik> ardchoille, thanks, thats what i'm trying to figure out, what i need to add the the visudo so it works correctly
[08:07] <variant> sivik: i actualy don't know the exact part of the config that specifies the timeout..
[08:07] <sivik> tom__, no you have to add it
[08:07] <tom__> aww well
[08:08] <sivik> tom__, gcc
[08:08] <variant> tom__: apt-get install build-essential
[08:08] <sivik> tom__, or build-essential
[08:08] <tom__> ok, thanks
[08:08] <sivik> tom__ yw
[08:09] <sivik> ardchoille, do you know what the syntax needs to look like?
[08:09] <zcrxsir88>  hmmm. will dual booting with Ubuntu work since my windows part is NTFS????
[08:09] <ardchoille> sivik: I just saw it on the forums, searching for it now..
[08:09] <sivik> zcrxsir88, yes
[08:09] <sivik> ardchoille, ok, just send me the link when you find it
[08:10] <sivik> zcrxsir88, grub is able to read ntfs so it will work
[08:10] <sivik> zcrxsir88, thats how i boot my desktop
[08:10] <zcrxsir88> ok, well its not seeing my windows part
[08:10] <tom__> <3 auzzie servers
[08:10] <sivik> zcrxsir88, does ubuntu see it after you load it
[08:10] <zcrxsir88> nope!
[08:11] <variant> sivik: he doesn't know what you mean
[08:11] <zcrxsir88> after I installed Ubuntu all it see's is Ubuntu
[08:11] <racarr> Anyone have any advice on resizing an LVM ext3 partition?
[08:11] <ardchoille> sivik: You looking for a longer sudo timeout?
[08:11] <sivik> zcrxsir88, does it not appear when you do a df -l
[08:11] <ytoox> hi, how do I stop and resume metalinks with aria2?
[08:11] <sivik> ardchoille, shorter
[08:11] <sivik> ardchoille, i want it to ask me all the time, not every few minutes
[08:11] <zcrxsir88> didnt try that...
[08:11] <zcrxsir88> do i type that command in Grub?
[08:11] <sivik> zcrxsir88, you should be able to see the parition
[08:12] <sivik> zcrxsir88, you will have to go in and edit your menu.lst file to make it work correctly
[08:12] <sivik> ardchoille, does that make sense?
[08:12] <variant> racarr: you should be able to use resize2fs
[08:12] <ardchoille> sivik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229309&highlight=sudo+timeout
[08:12] <PygmyBaldEagle> Anyone know about winex3?
[08:12] <sivik> ardchoille, thanks
[08:12] <sivik> i will check it out
[08:12] <ardchoille> sivik: I think timeout=0 makes it to ask every time.
[08:12] <racarr> variant: I do not think so...it is not a partition with a file system it is a partition being used as a volume in a group
[08:12] <sivik> ardchoille, thats what i did, but it doesn't seem to work
[08:13] <variant> racarr: hmm, yeah sorry. do you have e2fsadm installed?
[08:13] <variant> racarr: check
[08:13] <zcrxsir88> no i dont see it if i do the df -l command
[08:13] <ardchoille> sivik: :(
[08:13] <zcrxsir88> I know that if I rewrite my MBR ill auto boot back into windows though :)
[08:13] <PygmyBaldEagle> Can anyone help me with winex3?
[08:13] <sivik> ardchoille, timeout=0 in the file doesn't work
[08:13] <racarr> variant: I don't think e2fsadm exists for lvm2, apt-file search indicates that no installable package contains it
[08:14] <ardchoille> sivik: Here are some more http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=14602496
[08:14] <variant> racarr: seems to be good instructions here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
[08:14] <quaal> does anyone use azureus ?
[08:14] <ardchoille> sivik: It's not timeout=, it's passwd_timeout=
[08:14] <sivik> ardchoille, yeah, i saw that now
[08:15] <variant> racarr: this might be more appropriate actualy: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lvm-maintainers/2005-August/000174.html
[08:15] <racarr> variant: Need to shrink, and the tool it mentions e2fsadm doesn't exist for
[08:15] <racarr> lvm2
[08:15] <ardchoille> sivik: Please let me know if that works for you
[08:15] <variant> racarr: check that next link
[08:15] <ardchoille> I may do it myself
[08:15] <zcrxsir88> any thoughts?
[08:15] <sivik> sudoers file: syntax error, line 9 and i added passwd_timeout=0
[08:16] <sivik> ardchoille, for some reason its not saving it
[08:16] <ardchoille> sivik: Did you add that in the "Defaults" section?
[08:16] <ardchoille> s/section/line/
[08:16] <racarr> variant: Looking in to it thanks
[08:17] <PygmyBaldEagle> Looking for some help with winex3
[08:17] <sivik> ardchoille, yes
[08:17] <sivik> ardchoille, same error
[08:17] <ardchoille> Hmm
[08:17] <zcrxsir88> is there a file i can edit for grub to input the boot for windows or something?
[08:17] <ardchoille> sivik: I haven't been able to get it to work either.
[08:17] <ardchoille> :(
[08:17] <sivik> zcrxsir88, yes, its called menu.lst
[08:17] <sivik> in the /boot/grub folder
[08:18] <defrysk>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:18] <sivik> ardchoille, it seems to be fubared
[08:18] <sivik> defrysk, i just told him
[08:19] <david_> nope didnt work just acted like i never touched the config fill for fluxbox style twice configuration
[08:19] <sivik> ardchoille, thats why i wish someone that has done it would respond
[08:19] <RaidenCX> so will creating a partition from a logical one erase data or something?
[08:19] <ardchoille> sivik: You might post in the forums and ask for the exact syntax.. stating what you have tried and what errors you received. Te ubuntuforums.org is quite awesome.
[08:20] <sivik> ardchoille, yeah, i use it all the time, i just couldn't ever find anything about it for some reason, it would return no search results
[08:20] <ardchoille> sivik: Make a new post :)
[08:21] <PygmyBaldEagle> can anyone give me a hand with winex3
[08:21] <RaidenCX> pygmy, whats the query
[08:22] <PygmyBaldEagle> Well, I suppose my problem is more with xlibs
[08:22] <Xuck> wow
[08:22] <sivik> ardchoille, i just posted in that area
[08:22] <ardchoille> nonix4: For video cards, I'd stick with nVidia
[08:22] <sivik> now i get to wait for a reply
[08:22] <nonix4> ardchoille: they didn't exist back when I last upgraded :)
[08:22] <ardchoille> sivik: URL?
[08:22] <RaidenCX> so will creating a partition from a logical one erase data or something?
[08:23] <ardchoille> nonix4: Oh, ok
[08:23] <Xuck> Anyone here give out bnc's?
[08:23] <sivik> i would concur with ardchoille stay nvidia, they work better and have better support for linux than ati until amd starts releasing open source drivers
[08:23] <bozo_> I have a stupid question: is there a channel for feisty testing?
[08:23] <sivik> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2158932#post2158932
[08:23] <sivik> i just added a reply
[08:23] <ardchoille> bozo_: #ubuntu+1
[08:23] <bozo_> thanks
[08:24] <sivik> #ubuntu+1 is always the channel for the test version
[08:24] <PygmyBaldEagle> I was able to get winex3 installed, but when I tried to execute the setup file I wanted to open, it gave me a x11 error
[08:24] <sivik> PygmyBaldEagle, is that a new version of wine or something?
[08:24] <PygmyBaldEagle> as far as I know it's an older version
[08:24] <erlingre> Hello I'm working on a small bash script and want to create a message in X. xmessage is very crude do I have any alternative for Ubuntu/Gnome that is installed by default?
[08:25] <furryballs> Is there a way to search vbulletin forums for words with brackets in them? Like for example searching for "[word] "?
[08:25] <nonix4> ardchoille: Upgraded the h/w that is... software on the other hand... I tend to run bleeding edge kernels, thus blobs / binary drivers are mostly unacceptable. How good are the opensource drivers for those cards these days?
[08:25] <PygmyBaldEagle> They changed the name
[08:25] <RaidenCX> pygmy, try updating and exporting xlib files from a working sys
[08:25] <sivik> PygmyBaldEagle, what are you trying to run?
[08:26] <PygmyBaldEagle> I'm trying to setup The Wheel of Time from cdrom
[08:26] <sivik> PygmyBaldEagle, like what software are you going to run with it
[08:26] <variant> erlingre: there is a gnome/kde version, i forget the name though
[08:26] <PygmyBaldEagle> I plan on running it with winex
[08:26] <sivik> Pyromancer, i would check out wine, they probably support it
[08:26] <variant> erlingre: probably gtk-message or soemthing simmilar
[08:26] <sivik> PygmyBaldEagle, why old software?
[08:26] <PygmyBaldEagle> Because I don't want to pay the 15 dollar subscription fee for the new stuff
[08:26] <ardchoille> nonix4: I have used nvidia drivers on 5 distros and never had a problem. The ones in the Ubuntu repos are easy to install.
[08:26] <sivik> PygmyBaldEagle, wine doesn't charge for anything, at least that i can find
[08:26] <sivik> PygmyBaldEagle, now Cedega does, but wine doesn't
[08:27] <ardchoille> nonix4: I tried ATI drivers once, it was a nightmare.
[08:27] <PygmyBaldEagle> Where are you looking at wine
[08:27] <Xuck> IF YOU GIVE OUT BNC'S PLEASE MSG ME THANK YOU
[08:27] <sivik> winehq.com and the winehq channel
[08:27] <sivik> PygmyBaldEagle, #winehq
[08:27] <amonkey> if when i closed vlc the music continued to play, and killall vlc doesn't do anything, how can i force everything to let go of my soundcard (hw mixing ftw)
[08:27] <sivik> not trying to advertise for the channel, just letting him know about it.  I don't want to get into trouble
[08:28] <erlingre> variant: I have used something in the past, but can't remember the name. I don't think it is called something ovious as I hve alredy tried for any combination of g[tk]  and message, etc.. :(
[08:28] <sivik> amonkey, do a ps aux and search for vlc, and then do a kill processnumber that you fround from ps aux
[08:28] <ardchoille> sivik: No problem in pointing some that way to help them with an issue :)
[08:28] <PygmyBaldEagle> Thanks, I'll take a look at that
[08:28] <variant> erlingre: ask in gnome on irc.gimp.net
[08:28] <thekidrio> amonkey: ps aux | grep vlc
[08:28] <sivik> ardchoille, just wanted to make sure
[08:28] <sparr> my firefox is giving me weird cursors...  a blue pointer, a very tall hand for links, a blue cursor with a spinning clock while loading.  very surprising, very annoying.  what might have done that and how do i fix it?
[08:28] <erlingre> variant: okay, thanks
[08:28] <sivik> amonkey, what thekidrio said works as well, and then do a kill to the process number of anything with vlc
[08:29] <thekidrio> or killall -9 vlc
[08:29] <thekidrio> but thats lazy hehe
[08:29] <sivik> amonkey, or just restart your gui
[08:29] <sivik> thekidrio, what does the -9 do?
[08:29] <amonkey> thekidrio, sivik, ah, it
[08:29] <amonkey> 's name is actually wxvlc
[08:29] <sivik> amonkey, its also better to kill the process number
[08:30] <anut> How should I make Ubuntu recognize my secondary hard disk as storage?  It didn't give me the option of setting up an LVM or anything at install, and I didn't feel like manually poking about in the partition table.
[08:31] <amonkey> sivik, why?
[08:31] <sivik> amonkey, cause then you don't have to remember what the excate name is, i'm better at typing in numbers than typing in a long program name
[08:31] <sivik> at least for me
[08:31] <david> i tryed setting the backround in Twice config file for fluxbos styles to the path of my background but makes no difrence at all
[08:32] <ardchoille> david: You got nautilus running?
[08:32] <david> no it kills my fluxbox right click menu
[08:32] <sparr> this is really scaring me
[08:33] <ardchoille> david: That's what I was going to say. You can disable that in nautilus, though.
[08:33] <racarr> well
[08:33] <racarr> that was rather scary
[08:33] <david> how
[08:33] <racarr> I accidently resized the logical volume before resizing the FS
[08:33] <RaidenCX> anut try mounting it, mnt hdd2
[08:33] <RaidenCX> g
[08:34] <ardchoille> david: Run: gconf-editor
[08:34] <ardchoille> david: In the conf editor, go to apps/nautilus/preferences and uncheck show_desktop
[08:34] <david> ok
[08:34] <anut> Sure, but mount it to where?
 anut try mounting it, mnt hdd2
[08:34] <david> got it thanks
[08:34] <ardchoille> david: That will disable nautilus' managing the right click menu
[08:35] <ardchoille> david: There's another one to disable nautilus drawing the bg, want it?
[08:35] <david> yes
[08:35] <ardchoille> david: desktop/gnome/background and disable draw_desktop
[08:35] <ardchoille> david: That will stop nautilus from chaning the desktop wallpaper
[08:36] <ardchoille> I honestly wish they turn off the nautilus desktop management or at least add some options for it in nautilus prefs
[08:36] <adrien> hi how can i go on ubuntu-fr serveur please ?
[08:37] <ardchoille> adrien:  /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:37] <adrien> thx
[08:37] <david> with nautilus can i have it start when i start fluxbox?
[08:37] <ardchoille> david: Yes
[08:38] <david> not to a dweeb or anything but how would i do that i dint have to do all this in slack
[08:39] <elyon225> Can I safely remove all the "wacom" device entries from my xorg.conf file?  (I believe it causes errors in the console when I run most gui apps)
[08:39] <ardchoille> david: I'm looking for the fluxbox how-to for it, sorry
[08:39] <anut> Hm.  It does not go.  I've got the second disk partitioned, and I try mounting hdb1 to /media/disk2, but no joy.
[08:39] <david> thats cool
[08:39] <ardchoille> david: You have to add nautilus to .xinitrc, it's explained here: http://www.fluxbox.org/docs/en/faq.php#startup
[08:40] <ardchoille> david: I believe it's "nautilus &" (without quotes) in ~/.xinitrc
[08:40] <david> i dont mind all the config stuf just hate repeating everytime i want a deskto backgroug to stick lol
[08:40] <david> thankss
[08:40] <ardchoille> david: Yeah
[08:40] <ardchoille> david: no problem :)
[08:41] <mistform> mine.nu
[08:41] <mistform> wth
[08:45] <david> later and thanks agan for the help
[08:46] <ardchoille> Hi anut
[08:47] <anut> I'm still trying to get my second disk to mount.  I've got it partitioned, and I try mounting /dev/hdb1 to /media/disk2, but it doesn't go.  It didn't give me the option of setting up an LVM or anything at install, and I didn't want to poke into the partition tables manually.
[08:49] <anut> ... Oh, NOW it works. Still, is there any better way to get it to use both hard disks?  I don't suppose it's too practical to move everything to an LVM after install time or anything, but...
[08:49] <zues> maybe you should define the file system
[08:50] <zues> doesnt it have to be in fstab?
[08:50] <illriginal> is it safe to update ubuntu generic?... or is it still messin up nvidia video cards?
[08:50] <cyphase> illriginal: i'm fully updated, and i've had no problems
[08:51] <illriginal> shoot last week i updated.. and it messed up X
[08:51] <zues> mine updated a couple of days ago and my beryl stopped working but I just recompiled the nvidia drivers with the new kernel and it came back up
[08:51] <illriginal> and didn't recognize my video card.
[08:51] <zues> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx  then nvidia-xconfig --twinview
[08:52] <illriginal> i can't even get into X.
[08:52] <illriginal> i have to use the old kernel.
[08:52] <illriginal> i haven't attempted to log onto the new updated one because well... i can't even log onto X to begin with :P
[08:52] <zues> you can log into a shell and then remove the nvidia package and reapt-get it
[08:52] <zues> but thats the same thing that happened to me
[08:53] <illriginal> it'll connect to the internet still?
[08:53] <zues> sure
[08:53] <zues> you dont need x to connect to the internet
[08:54] <illriginal> and all i need to do is type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then nvidia-xconfig --twinview, then restart my machine and it'll log onto X?
[08:54] <adriansU> hi everybody
[08:54] <illriginal> if that's all i need to do... then ill do it right now.
[08:54] <adriansU> what program i need for open selfextracting zip files in linux?
[08:54] <zues> well you dont need the --twinview unless you have dual monitors
[08:54] <illriginal> oh ok
[08:55] <illriginal> so i dont need to type nvidia-xconfig, correct?
[08:55] <zues> nope
[08:55] <illriginal> just the apt-get install.
[08:55] <adriansU> was a million dollar question?
[08:55] <zues> now you may want to remove the nvidia first
[08:55] <illriginal> alright brb gonna attempt it.
[08:55] <zues> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[08:55] <illriginal> i dont even think it has nvidia to begin with.. but ill do it to make sure.
[08:55] <zues> ok, what kind of graphics processor do you ahve/
[08:56] <zues> *have
[08:56] <illriginal> hm... i dunno how to answer that question.
[08:56] <zues> try this   dmesg | grep nvidia
[08:56] <illriginal> it's a 5200 GeForce
[08:56] <illriginal> ok
[08:56] <zues> ok
[08:56] <zues> then thats nvidia
[08:57] <illriginal> oh it's def. nvidia.
[08:57] <zues> so do those two commands
[08:57] <adriansU> can you say me a program for open zip archives?
[08:57] <zues> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[08:57] <illriginal> [17179590.060000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[08:57] <illriginal> ok brb gonna attempt it
[08:58] <adriansU> just one of a kind
[08:58] <zues> cant you use the tar command for self extracting archives?
[08:58] <zues> tar -xvf
[08:58] <adriansU> don't think so
[08:58] <zues> maybe not
[08:58] <adriansU> because it's an exe file
[08:58] <zues> hmm
[08:58] <diskus> rename?
[08:58] <diskus> and use unzip or something
[08:58] <adriansU> tar.gz?
[08:58] <zues> extensions really dont do anything in linux
[08:59] <zues> only in windows
[08:59] <cafuego> they give the user a hint, which is handy
[08:59] <zues> treat it like a tar.gz file
[08:59] <nonix4> Any hardware buyers guide compatibility matrices available on the net (reg. BinaryDriverEducation)?
[08:59] <zues> see what happens
[08:59] <adriansU> ok i am trying
[08:59] <adriansU> t u
[08:59] <cafuego> adriansU: Run 'file <filename>' and see what that makes of it.
[09:01] <adriansU> run?
[09:01] <adriansU> commando not found :)
[09:01] <adriansU> can you say me a zip manager for linux?
[09:02] <zues> try tar
[09:02] <zues> tar -xvf filename.exe
[09:02] <adriansU> tryed
[09:02] <unop> zip and unzip
[09:02] <zues> no go
[09:02] <adriansU> no it say
[09:02] <adriansU> don't seem a tar archive
[09:02] <adriansU> zip and unzip
[09:02] <zues> install automatix2?
[09:02] <unop> adriansU,  obviously, an .exe is not a tarball
[09:03] <unop> !info unzip
[09:03] <ubotu> unzip: De-archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.52-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 143 kB, installed size 324 kB
[09:03] <adriansU> unop obviosly i know but zues
[09:03] <unop> !info zip
[09:03] <ubotu> zip: Archiver for .zip files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 248 kB
[09:03] <adriansU> suggest me
[09:03] <adriansU> is alredy installed zip?
[09:03] <cry0x> mkay... so I do a dist-upgrade, and now X is complaining that it can't find the nvidia kernel module
[09:03] <adriansU> or sudo apt-get?
[09:03] <cry0x> could someone lend me a helping hand? I appreciate it
[09:04] <zues> a self extracting archive is still an archive, it just have some code wrapped around it
[09:04] <unop> adriansU,  it says these are optional packages, so no
[09:04] <unop> adriansU,  sudo aptitude install zip unzip
[09:04] <adriansU> thank u boss :)
[09:05] <adriansU> now i try to unzip it
[09:05] <unop> adriansU,  you trying to extract a self-extracting .exe?
[09:05] <adriansU> yes
[09:06] <unop> adriansU,  look at !cabextract and !unsheild also then
[09:06] <adriansU> it's a normal winzip self ext file
[09:06] <adriansU> !cabextract
[09:06] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
[09:06] <adriansU> !unshield
[09:06] <ubotu> unshield: extracts CAB files from InstallShield installers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-3 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 60 kB
[09:07] <crazy_penguin> 'morning all!
[09:07] <cry0x> hihi
[09:07] <adriansU> what the paradise...
[09:07] <adriansU> doesn't work!
[09:07] <zues> what are you trying to unzip
[09:07] <cursive> whats the best irc client to use in ubuntu. gaim sucks
[09:08] <cry0x> irssi
[09:08] <zues> BitchX
[09:08] <cry0x> what I'm using now because my X server is broken
[09:08] <zues> irssi is good
[09:08] <cursive> how do i run irssi
[09:08] <zues> cryox, remove your nvidia stuff and recompile it with new kernel
[09:08] <cafuego> cursive: gaim is less then ideal for irc, especially in LARGE channels
[09:08] <zues> just drop to a shell and type irssi
[09:09] <cursive> thx
[09:09] <cry0x> zues, which specific packages?
[09:09] <zues> nvidia-glx in my case
[09:09] <zues> its worth a try, someone from work told me about this earlier, i havent tried that out yet
[09:09] <adriansU> someone knows an object bar macos style?
[09:10] <cry0x> if someone could post a URL to the latest nvidia linux driver tarball I would be more than happy to wget that and install it myself
[09:10] <zues> hold on, i'll look
[09:10] <unop> !nvidia
[09:10] <cry0x> <3
[09:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <cry0x> yes, let me get a curses based web browser and read that
[09:10] <cry0x> thanks bot
[09:11] <zues> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9625/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9625-pkg1.run
[09:11] <zues> thats a shell script, but you can run it since your x isnt running right now
[09:13] <zues> cryox, wget that link
[09:13] <cry0x> indeed, thanks
[09:14] <cry0x> getting a 404, checking for typos
[09:16] <zues> ti works for me
[09:17] <cry0x> zues, thanks so much
[09:17] <cry0x> I get an error during the driver install though
[09:18] <cry0x> "Please install the X.org SDK/development package for your distrobution
[09:18] <zues> did it finish anyhow?
[09:18] <zues> hmm, your not using xorg?
[09:18] <cry0x> I should be using xorg
[09:18] <cafuego> it'll still need x11-dev
[09:18] <bart_> cry0x, sudo apt-get install xorg-xserver-dev
[09:18] <cafuego> can't build an X driver without X headers
[09:18] <unop> !info xorg-dev
[09:18] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org X Window System development libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:19] <zues> !info xorg-xserver-dev
[09:19] <ubotu> Package xorg-xserver-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[09:20] <bart_> ye it's xorg-dev
[09:20] <cry0x> spectacular, installing now
[09:20] <bart_> and xserver-xorg-dev
[09:20] <bart_> !xserver-xorg-dev
[09:20] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-dev: X.Org X server -- development files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1 (edgy), package size 290 kB, installed size 1628 kB
[09:20] <cafuego> and linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential
[09:20] <zues> i like the bot, nice
[09:21] <unop> does fglrx pertain to ATI or NVidia?
[09:21] <ardchoille> unop: ATI
[09:21] <bart_> ati
[09:21] <zues> that is ati i seem to remember
[09:22] <zues> there are no ops in this room?
[09:22] <cry0x> you guys are fantastic
[09:22] <cry0x> got the dev pack, installed the beta driver
[09:22] <Frogzoo> zues: there are ops, they only mod up as necesary
[09:22] <ardchoille> zues: Sure there are
[09:22] <cry0x> up and running now
[09:22] <cry0x> zues, thanks a bunch for that driver link
[09:22] <Nickname> Hi guys could somebody help me with my edgy eft network problem
[09:23] <zues> no problem just googled it
[09:23] <Frogzoo> !helpme | Nickname
[09:23] <ubotu> Nickname: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:23] <Frogzoo> Nickname: we don't know if we can help you yet
[09:23] <Nickname> ubotu: I put a question a lot of times before and did not get a reply so why sorry
[09:24] <zues> so whats going on with your network?
[09:24] <ardchoille> Nickname: ubotu is a bot
[09:24] <zues> you must be typing a long question
[09:25] <Nickname> zues: I used a vmware installed edgy eft and after i played it in vmware player it asked me to do automatic upgrade which I did and then I lost my ethernet connection
[09:25] <Nickname> ardchoille: I got that late. thanks
[09:25] <variant> Nickname: vmware installed ubuntu is not supported. somone might help you but don't expect it :P
[09:26] <zues> what happens when you 'ifconfig -a'
[09:26] <zues> do you have any interfaces?
[09:26] <Nickname> variant: I understand it is not supported but it does not seem to be a vmware problem as I included eth1 eth2 ath0 etc. and still none recognised
[09:26] <Nickname> none at all which seems to be my problem
[09:27] <CapRiCoRN^80> anyone there who has install ubuntu on sun blade 150
[09:27] <Nickname> i tried dmesg and grep for any eth none there
[09:27] <zues> well that gets tricky because of how vmware handles interfaces.  is it binding to your interface (windows) or is it creating a virtual interface
[09:27] <alecjw> CapRiCoRN^80, is that a sparc?
[09:28] <CapRiCoRN^80> UltraSparc
[09:28] <Frogzoo> Nickname: find out which driver to use for ethernet would be a start
[09:28] <zues> what about proc -  have you looked through there for your interface?
[09:28] <Frogzoo> !sparc
[09:28] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[09:28] <Nickname> it creates a virtual interface but inside ubuntu it is shown as a normal interface and that iface was detected upon initial bootup through which is how I upgraded the installation
[09:28] <alecjw> CapRiCoRN^80, you cna install ubutnu server oon it, but nothiung graphical
[09:29] <CapRiCoRN^80> ubotu: i did look at it . but nothing special
[09:29] <alecjw> CapRiCoRN^80, ubotu is a bot
[09:29] <CapRiCoRN^80> well after installation we can set up Gnome
[09:29] <alecjw> you cant
[09:29] <CapRiCoRN^80> but that after story first i have to install cli
[09:29] <zues> how often do people talk to ubotu?  I almost did a few minutes ago, It seems that could be a source of endless grins
[09:29] <alecjw> it's not in the repositories, CapRiCoRN^80 so you'd have to isntall it form source
[09:30] <CapRiCoRN^80> i boot fine from ubuntu but got illegal instruction error
[09:30] <alecjw> zues, its our only source of amusement in theis otherwise boring irc support channel
[09:30] <CapRiCoRN^80> alecjw: i have booted fine n got the boot: prompt then i wrote install ide=nodma . but got error
[09:30] <zues> Nick -- try ifup /dev/eth0
[09:31] <CapRiCoRN^80> illegal instruction
[09:31] <zues> or just  sudo ifup eth0
[09:31] <zues> whats the output
[09:31] <Nickname> zues i tried sudo ifup for eth0 eth1 and ath0 it says no such interface
[09:31] <alecjw> CapRiCoRN^80, hmmmmm.... im not sure. sorry.
[09:31] <CapRiCoRN^80> alecjw: its ok
[09:32] <Nickname> zues: If you want i can post my /etc/network/interfaces file
[09:32] <ubuntu_newgal> hello?
[09:32] <Nickname> zues I have setup eth0, eth1 and ath0 as auto with DHCP
[09:32] <Jowi> hello ubuntu_newgal
[09:33] <zues> nick  - what happens when you do 'ls /dev/ | grep eth'
[09:33] <zues> ls /dev | grep eth*
[09:33] <ubuntu_newgal> hi, I have what is probably a no brainer question about power supplies.  Was wondering what is the difference between a 24 pin and 20+4 pin connector for power supplies
[09:34] <zues> 4 pins (joke, sorry)
[09:34] <mwe> ls /dev | grep eth wont return anything
[09:34] <ubuntu_newgal> and I am asking so I can learn...  if you know of a good hardware website where I can look it up that would be GREAT!
[09:34] <mwe> interfaces are not device files
[09:34] <Nickname> zues I do not find eth listed there either
[09:34] <mwe> you'd want ifconfig or something
[09:34] <zues> yeah he's right
[09:35] <Nickname> mwe: then do you know where I can look them for
[09:35] <nanothief> hey I'm having heaps of trouble with ipv6, internet won't work with it. Ive added a blacklist and alias to the modprobe.d folder to no avail
[09:35] <cry0x> clear
[09:35] <tommcd> the 20+4 pin connector on PSUs will let you use it on older mobos with 20 pin connectors
[09:35] <ubuntu_newgal> LOL Zues!!!!  sorry I was a little slow on the uptake...
[09:35] <mwe> Nickname: What's your problems again?
[09:35] <mwe> Nickname: ls /dev | grep eth just jumped into my eyes ;)
[09:35] <Nickname> if I do ifconfig -a I only get lo which is the local loopback adapter
[09:36] <mwe> Nickname: oh. The driver is probably not loaded for some reason
[09:36] <ubuntu_newgal> ah ok, so If I have one mobo with 20 pins and a 2nd mobo with 24 pins, then a 20+4 power supply can be used for both/either correct?
[09:36] <ardchoille> nanothief: Did you add "alias net-pf-10 off" to /etc/modprobe.d/bad_list?
[09:36] <Nickname> mwe: I downloaded a vmware install of edgy eft and upgraded it and then my eth0 was lost and I am without any ethernet connection now
[09:36] <Jowi> Nickname, sounds like your nics are not detected (or driver not loaded). if you have a cable inserted into one of the nics, is the link light on?
[09:36] <zues> newgal- its for reverse compatability,  and some motherboards have the extra 4 pins plugged into a different spot too.  the best thing to do is to read your manual.  they'll say wether they require all of them or not.  In some cases you can pick up an 20 to 24 pin adapter and it will work just find
[09:36] <mwe> Nickname: odd
[09:37] <mwe> Nickname: vmware has never touched my interfaces. It has only created it's own vmnet ones
[09:37] <Nickname> Jowi: it is not the actual nic it is a virtual nic created by vmware player
[09:37] <nanothief> ardchoille: yep (although the name of the file was /etc/modprobe.d/alias-ipv6, and I also added a blacklist blacklist ipv6 to a blacklist-ipv6 file
[09:38] <Jowi> Nickname, ok. that's a bit strange.
[09:38] <ardchoille> nanothief: Does ip a | grep inet6 return anything?
[09:38] <Nickname> mwe: yeah the initial vmx file had one ethernet0 vmnet created and after upgrading it got lost and after reading on some forums I even added more to the vmx file to check
[09:39] <mwe> Nickname: I'm not sure what's going on. sorry
[09:39] <nanothief> ardchoille: no it does nothing. Also, the command lsmod | grep ipv6 also returns nothing
[09:39] <zues> same here nickname.
[09:39] <ubuntu_newgal> ok googling and looking for the manual... brb
[09:39] <Nickname> mwe: well thats alright I might have to go through the entire process again I guess BTW as a side question did you download edgy eft vmdk
[09:40] <ardchoille> nanothief: If "ip a | grep inet6" returns nothing, then ipv6 is disabled. You r problem is probably elsewhere.
[09:40] <Vic24> hi all
[09:40] <mwe> Nickname: no. I use vmware-server to run windows 2000
[09:40] <Jowi> hello Vic24
[09:40] <Nickname> zues : thanks for your time I will see if I can come up with an answer and let you guys know
[09:40] <nanothief> ardchoille: I still think ipv6 is the problem. For example, the wget "www.google.com" will fail, but wget "www.google.com" -4 will work (the -4 forces ipv4)
[09:41] <mwe> Nickname: make sure the module for your nic is loaded if you know the name
[09:41] <ardchoille> nanothief: Ok.
[09:41] <Jowi> nanothief, will "ifconfig" give you an ipv6 address as well as an ipv4 one?
[09:41] <nanothief> Jowi: how do I test that?
[09:41] <Nickname> mwe: ok but you use ubuntu as your base system right could you tell me how to easily change resolution rather than running dpkg-reconfigure and then gdm restart
[09:42] <Jowi> nanothief, ifconfig | grep inet6
[09:42] <Nickname> mwe: what do you mean by the module could you elaborate it a bit please
[09:42] <nanothief> Jowi: no it gives no output
[09:42] <mwe> Nickname: asuming xorg.conf is configured to know about the resolutions you want ctrl-alt-+
[09:43] <nanothief> I'm not sure if this helps, but package manager, evolution, add/remove progs and gaim don't work as well
[09:43] <MyGhetek> how do i check my disk space in command line?
[09:43] <mwe> Nickname: lsmod. but you need to know the module name you need for your nick
[09:43] <Nickname> mwe: no the base I donwloaded has only 800x600 I need to add 1280x800 to the list
[09:43] <mwe> Nickname: modules==drivers
[09:43] <unop> MyGhetek,  df -h
[09:44] <MyGhetek> thanks
[09:44] <mwe> Nickname: well I'd recommed reading !fixres or pasting xorg.conf for someone to look at it
[09:44] <Jowi> nanothief, did you restart the network after you disabled ipv6?
[09:44] <mwe> brb
[09:44] <nanothief> Jowi: yep
[09:44] <Vic24> I have a question about installing ubuntu 7.04 pre-release. I have two HDD. One with WinXP and another is clean. I want to install on clean HDD ubuntu, but grub must be on HDD with WinXP. I choose Advanced in last step, and can't understand: what it want from me? Default value is (hd0), where it come from?
[09:45] <Frogzoo> Vic24: no reason for grub to be on the winxp disk
[09:45] <vlt> Hello. I tried a dist-upgrade and it failed. Is there an apt command to repair an installation that is messed up?
[09:45] <defrysk> vlt, sudo apt-get -f install
[09:46] <defrysk> vlt, then continue with dist-upgrade
[09:46] <vlt> defrysk: I'll try ...
[09:46] <Nickname> mwe: is there a way to find that I see my vmx file giving names for scsi (lsilogic), sound (as1371) but none for ethernet
[09:46] <quaal> is there a way to turn off the local monitor output once you login through vnc
[09:46] <erlingre> if I have a .xsession in my homedir will /etc/X11/Xsession execute anyway?
[09:47] <aladino> hi
[09:47] <nanothief> about the ipv6, to get firefox (and chatzilla ) to work I had to set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true
[09:47] <mwe> Nickname: well if linux doesn't your your nic neither can vmware
[09:48] <Nickname> mwe: well the reason i dont understand is it worked before the upgrade and I upgraded and rebooted and its gone
[09:48] <vlt> defrysk: hmm, after 0.8 seconds I get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[09:48] <Jowi> nanothief, what aliases did you put in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases? "alias net-pf-10 off" should do it.
[09:48] <newest007> hey there, i just installed realplayer,  is the only way to run it buy using the ./realplay comand in terminal??
[09:48] <mwe> nanothief: if you disable ipv6 system wide it's not nessecary ;)
 but I don't want to choose in BIOS from which HDD to boot, when changing OS'es
[09:48] <newest007> isnt there a way to make a GUI shortcut on the desktop?
[09:48] <mwe> Nickname: what did you upgrade?
[09:48] <defrysk> vlt, then nothing is broken :)
[09:48] <unop> newest007,   realplayer
[09:48] <newest007> yup
[09:48] <dromer> I want to learn scripting in perl, what packages do I need for that?
[09:48] <mwe> dromer: perl is already installed
[09:49] <newest007> how do i create a shortcut for it on the desktop, like an icon i can double click to open realplayer?
[09:49] <vlt> defrysk: Ok, sounds good. What to do next to upgrade
[09:49] <unop> newest007,  ./realplay is looking for a file in the same directory -- and it's probably not there
[09:49] <nanothief> Jowi: alias net-pf-10 off is in my aliases file
[09:49] <vlt> s//?
[09:49] <newest007> no, i can run it ok in command
[09:49] <Jowi> nanothief, reboot?
[09:49] <Nickname> mwe: the update manager said there are some 70 packages to upgrade as soon as I booted first time so I let it download and install them and then since it asked to reboot I did and then my network is gone
[09:49] <newest007> but i want a shortcut on the desktop
[09:49] <defrysk> vlt, what are you upgrading and what goes wrong ?
[09:49] <newest007> and not have to run it in command line all the time
[09:49] <unop> newest007,  ln -s `which realplayer` ~/Desktop/
[09:49] <Nickname> mwe: is there a way I can look at what all was upgraded
[09:49] <Ademan> any suggestions for video editing on linux?  I've dug up Kino so far, and cinelerra
[09:49] <mackinac> Vic24, hd0 is the first drive, hd1 is the second
[09:49] <Nickname> \mwe: maybe the local install cache for what all was fetched
[09:49] <dromer> mwe: ok, but (I'm reading Learning Perl 3rd) when I do $ ./hello_world (first program ;) ) nothing happens ..
[09:50] <nanothief> Jowi: I've haven't changed that file since I turned my comp on today. I've had this problem for a few weeks now :S
[09:50] <dromer> mwe: or specifically, this happens: bash: ./hello_world: /url/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[09:50] <unop> dromer,  you might want to ask this in #perl .. perl is off-topic here
[09:50] <vlt> defrysk: I want to ugrade from breezy via dapper to edgy.
[09:50] <dromer> unop: ok
[09:50] <newest007> so i type -s realplay ~/Desktop/ to creat the shortcut?
[09:50] <Frogzoo> dromer: would you believe................... perl ?
[09:50] <mwe> dromer: oh
[09:50] <dromer> unop: I just thought I didn't have it installed
[09:50] <defrysk> vlt, maybe its better to do a fresh install ?
[09:50] <dromer> unop: and wanted to know which packages I needed
[09:50] <mwe> dromer: odd. perl should be install. try dpkg -l|grep perl
[09:51] <unop> dromer,  there's an error there -- /url/bin/perl doesnt exist
[09:51] <vlt> defrysk: I don't know, is it=?
[09:51] <unop> dromer,  you probably want /usr/bin/perl
[09:51] <defrysk> vlt, for sure it is ;)
[09:51] <newest007> unop its not working
[09:51] <mwe> dromer: and dpkg -l perl. isn't it there?
[09:51] <cry0x> is pastebin down? =/
[09:51] <k31th> guys I just did apt-get install rails on ubuntu... however gems was not installed any ideas?
[09:51] <dromer> mwe: gives lots of stuff ..
[09:51] <mwe> dromer: what if you type perl
[09:51] <unop> newest007,  copy and paste that command in exactly as i typed it
[09:51] <newest007> says command not found
[09:51] <mackinac> Vic24, still, you only have to make that BIOS choice once. then you can choose which drive is default with grub
 thx, but in linux terms, what is first and second drive? WinXP drive is SATA on mb, clean drive is additional IDE controller on mb
[09:52] <unop> newest007,  ln -s `which realplayer` ~/Desktop/
[09:52] <vlt> defrysk: Can I install edgy directly or do I have to install dapper first (I'm concerned about possible changes in config file formats)?
[09:52] <dromer> mwe: hmm, nothing exept an empty line
[09:52] <mwe> good
[09:52] <dromer> ok
[09:53] <mwe> dromer: perl -e 'print "hello\n"'
[09:53] <adrien> #ubuntu-fr
[09:53] <adrien> erf
[09:53] <mwe> dromer: does it print hello?
[09:53] <defrysk> !backup | vlt
[09:53] <ubotu> vlt: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:53] <dromer> mwe: no
[09:53] <mwe> dromer: and dpkg -l perl. isn't it there?
[09:53] <unop> dromer,   #!/usr/bin/perl not #!/url/bin/perl
[09:53] <nanothief> about ipv6: is the process of obtaining an dns address contained in a script i can edit to forcefully disable ipv6?
[09:53] <mwe> unop: oh. good spot
[09:54] <newest007> weird, nothings appeared on the desktop
[09:54] <vlt> defrysk: I have a backup of all data. But when I inject my old breezy formatted /etc and /home into /edgy ...?
[09:54] <dromer> unop: hmm, ahh, why is that ?
[09:54] <mwe> dromer: type which perl
[09:54] <dromer> unop: my bad :$
[09:54] <mwe> dromer: does it say /usr/bin/perl?
[09:54] <dromer> mwe: no it's cool now
[09:54] <unop> dromer,  because linux is looking for a executable named perl in /url/bin .. which is a non-existant location
[09:54] <dromer> bbl :P
[09:54] <newest007> lol, i c
[09:55] <newest007> no, sorry im not after a link to the desktop from the realplayer directory, im after an icon on the desktop that will start up real player when i click on it
[09:55] <defrysk> vlt, not sure whatyou mean but if you have a seperate /home you can use it again in any ubuntu install, just make sure to set it up with the partitioner during install
[09:55] <Nickname> mwe: did you see my msg do you have any suggestions on how do I get a list of packages it upgraded for us to check
[09:55] <Jowi> brb
[09:55] <unop> newest007,  right click desktop - new - link (or whatever) .. blah .. have you tried all this already?
[09:56] <mwe> Nickname: I didn't get a /msg
[09:56] <mwe> Nickname: you're probably not registered
[09:56] <Nickname> mwe: oh yeah okasy that is the problem
[09:56] <mwe> !register | Nickname
[09:56] <ubotu> Nickname: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:57] <Nickname> !register | Nickname
[09:57] <mwe> Nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration <-- read that ;=)
[09:57] <mackinac> Vic24, ah... i beleive sata device notation is like 'sda, sdb, sdc' ... ide = 'hda, hdb, hdc'
[09:57] <Nickname> mwe: thanks goin thru it
[09:59] <[StingRay] > Hi all, I asked in winehq, but noone responded. Can somebody tell me how to apply this patch?-> http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2002-October/003553.html
[09:59] <starz> um
[09:59] <starz> anyone got the 2.6.20.xx kernel working with edgy?
[09:59] <starz> i was thinking of compiling it
[09:59] <mwe> starz: yeah
[09:59] <starz> mwe encourageing :>
[09:59] <starz> also what about linksys or netgear wireless cards and WPA
[10:00] <nanothief> would compiling a new kernel possibly help with my ipv6 problem?
[10:00] <starz> well
[10:00] <starz> whats your problem nanothief
 I can handle with dmesg to find exact device notation, but ubintu developers, have own notation :)
[10:00] <starz> ipv4 over ipv6?
[10:00] <unop> [StingRay] ,  it's very very likely that that patch is outdated .. it's about 5 years old :)
[10:00] <mwe> starz: I hope you're into configuring kernels ;)
[10:00] <starz> mwe o?
[10:00] <Vic24> ... in this case
[10:01] <mwe> starz: if you want to compile your own kernel
[10:01] <starz> ive not been classically....
[10:01] <[StingRay] > unop, I have no other choice. This funcion is still unimplemented in wine 0.9.30. My app is throwing away an error...
[10:01] <mackinac> Vic24, though i don't remember for sure how it wants you to input it, might be "/dev/sda1"
[10:01] <starz> but i figured start with config for the x.x.17.x and use that for the next one lol
[10:01] <nanothief> ipv6 doesn't work. Ive added a blacklist ipv6 as well as a alias net-pf-10 off.  ifconfig | grep inet6, lsmod | grep ipv6, ip a | grep inet6 all return nothing, and I've run out of options :(
[10:01] <mwe> starz: well you could use the ubuntu kernel config as a base
[10:01] <starz> im sure it will panic XD
[10:01] <mackinac> Vic24, or maybe i don't understand your question :)
[10:01] <starz> yeah
[10:02] <starz> thats my hope mwe
[10:02] <mwe> starz: well no biggie as long as you keep the ubuntu kernel ;)
[10:02] <unop> [StingRay] ,  usually what you do is -- you get the wine sources .. extract them to a directory -- enter that directory and issue a patch command like -- patch < pathfilename
[10:02] <starz> heh
[10:02] <starz> what about patching it for ubuntu?
[10:02] <starz> actually
[10:02] <starz> what about using the feisty .20
[10:02] <mwe> starz: I don't use the ubuntu patches
[10:02] <unop> [StingRay] ,  and then go on to compiling wine as normal
 you understand me correctly :) i left default value... will see what happens ;) thx for help
[10:02] <nanothief> startz: my problem is definitely ipv6 as wget "www.google.com" doesn't work while wget "www.google.com" -4 works (-4 forces ipv4)
[10:02] <starz> right
[10:02] <mwe> starz: I wouldn't mix distros it's usually a bad thing (TM)
[10:02] <mackinac> Vic24, ok good luck! :)
[10:03] <starz> do you have dns setup in ipv6 nanothief?
[10:03] <unop> starz,  have you tried installing the .deb from feisty?
[10:03] <starz> mwe sure sure
[10:03] <nanothief> starz: what do you mean by that?
[10:03] <starz> but worth a thought now and then...
[10:03] <starz> nanothief it still needs something to translate the google.com >>> ipv6
[10:03] <[StingRay] > I see unop, I have to compile from source...This is not my strength. Can you tell me which file I have to patch in my case. I have never done this?
[10:03] <muuhDBX> will ubuntu adapt the web isntall metod in future ?
[10:04] <rangans> mwe: previously i was saying that i upgraded some packages through the auto update manager and that killed the eth0 so I want to know if there is a way to look at the list of upgraded packages now to see what broke
[10:04] <unop> [StingRay] ,  the patch knows which files to patch -- you run patch like this in the sources directory - patch < patchfilename
[10:04] <nanothief> starz: I'm confused. I though you could completely disable ipv6 so that google.com >>> ipv4 always
[10:04] <starz> muuhDBX lets hope so
[10:04] <starz> netinstall >>>> all
[10:05] <starz> wait
[10:05] <unop> [StingRay] ,  but i'm willing to bet that this is not going to work, the sources will have changed dramatically over the last 4 years
[10:05] <starz> nanothief your trying to get ipv4 to work
[10:05] <starz> and ipv6 is fucking shit up?
[10:05] <starz> are you on ipv6 network or something?
[10:05] <starz> why is it even active?
[10:05] <IdleOne> !ohmy
[10:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:05] <starz> rite
[10:05] <starz> !ohme
[10:05] <starz> ~_~
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <[StingRay] > thanks unop. I will try this. I have no other choice...
[10:06] <nanothief> starz: no ipv4 always works perfect, ipv6 never works, my network doesn't support ipv6, and I want to completely destroy ipv6
[10:06] <IdleOne> !ipv6 | nanothief
[10:06] <ubotu> nanothief: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:06] <starz> well it sounds like you enabled it somehow
[10:06] <starz> yeah there u go
[10:06] <starz> XD
[10:06] <muuhDBX> starz: is a cop he can talk like he wants
[10:06] <nanothief> starz: I've been to that link and many others but they don't work :(
[10:06] <starz> yes
[10:07] <starz> yes i am muuhDBX.... just not here
[10:07] <starz> nanothief how did it get activated in the first place?
[10:07] <IdleOne> muuhDBX, starz can talk like he wants in his house but in this house he needs to follow the rules :) and so do you :)
[10:07] <starz> ive done 32 bit and 64 bit installs and never had that one
[10:07] <starz> eh
[10:07] <Jowi> starz, ipv6 is active by default
[10:07] <nanothief> starz: It has always been active, internet doesn't even work with a ubuntu 6.10 live cd
[10:07] <starz> technically im banned here anyway IdleOne
[10:08] <starz> @_@
[10:08] <starz> nanothief research your hardware from a sudo lspci -v > somefile.txt
[10:08] <Jowi> nanothief, are you on dapper or edgy?
[10:08] <muuhDBX> IdleOne: arent you idleing ?
[10:08] <IdleOne> starz, all the more reason to follow the rules then
[10:08] <nanothief> Jowi: edgy
[10:09] <muuhDBX> so much for freechoice if you have to follow
[10:09] <unop> nanothief,  does this return anything ? lsmod | grep -i net-pf-10
[10:09] <nanothief> unop: no
[10:09] <Jowi> nanothief, strange. i just tested editing /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and replaced "alias net-pf-10 ipv6" with "alias net-pf-10 off ipv6", rebooted, and now it is disabled system wide and working fine.
[10:09] <IdleOne> muuhDBX, you have the choice to say what you like but not where you like
[10:10] <starz> IdleOne i follow rules that suit me :P
[10:10] <Windy> hi, can anyone help me with an issue concerning my soundcard (intel onboard HD Audio) WINE and Ventrilo? (yes, I've looked up setup guides, yes I've tried fiddling with ALSA mixer, with no real luck) The issue is that I can hear everyone but I can't speak
[10:10] <IdleOne> starz, that is why you now have to evade a ban :)
[10:10] <muuhDBX> lrt starz do his job
[10:11] <starz> lol
[10:11] <flo_> hey guys
[10:11] <starz> no IdleOne thats not it really
[10:11] <nanothief> Jowi: i agree it is very strange, most people with ipv6 problems have it fixed instantly with that alias trick. unfortunately i don't think linux likes me too much :S
[10:11] <starz> an op was being a tool and i told him how i felt
[10:11] <starz> a few ppl joined in and he banned me
[10:11] <starz> so i told him to ban a half dozen of my nicks
[10:11] <starz> he banned 2
[10:12] <starz> i understand that ppl have bad days
[10:12] <flo_> i'm currently running feisty - after an dist-upgrade the bcm43xx wifi driver has changed, i think. now an ifconfig eth1 up gives me this in dmesg:
[10:12] <starz> i even have them occationally... but days like that one needs to log off at times
[10:12] <flo_>  bcm43xx: YOUR FIRMWARE IS TOO OLD. Firmware from binary drivers older than version 4.x is unsupported. You must upgrade your firmware files
[10:12] <starz> which he/she/it should have
[10:12] <flo_> where can i get a newer firmware
[10:12] <flo_> the bcm43xx-firmware package is installed
[10:13] <vlt> Can I install ubuntu from a running linux w/o burning and booting from a cd?
[10:13] <starz> IdleOne ive put in a lot of hours helping ppl so i dont intend to let one op on a rampage stop what i do.
[10:13] <unop> starz,  women and children frequent this room - it's easier not to be a little considerate and not swear in their presence - and everyone is happy if you dont :)
[10:13] <IdleOne> yeah sometimes that happens. but irc isnt a democracy. we all have the right to say and do as we please but we also have the obligation to be aware of our surroundings and how what we say and do affects them
[10:13] <starz> besides sometimes i need help also - usually when installing on a friends system that has crap hw
[10:13] <muuhDBX> damn right
[10:14] <[StingRay] > unop, the patch < patch.diff is asking me which file to patch.
[10:14] <muuhDBX> whats this irc channel surrounding look like ?
[10:14] <starz> unop there has been a rather large movement for quite a few centuries which got popularized in the last few decades called womens rights.. going for equality... its not that chivalry is dead its that women killed it.
[10:15] <starz> with that aside i cannot tell who is a child and who is not.
[10:15] <unop> starz,  thats not the point, how do you know how old everyone is thats watching your posts? eh?
[10:15] <starz> and frankly irc is not something that someone so tender as to be exposed for the first time to a word like sh 1t should be on it
[10:15] <Windy> hi, can anyone help me with an issue concerning my soundcard (intel onboard HD Audio) WINE and Ventrilo? (yes, I've looked up setup guides, yes I've tried fiddling with ALSA mixer, with no real luck) The issue is that I can hear everyone but I can't speak. Thanks in advance.
[10:15] <[StingRay] > this is the link unop, http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/attachments/20021009/489340ac/patch.obj
[10:15] <starz> therefore the blame lies with the parents.
[10:15] <IdleOne> starz, and that is why we all need to be polite and curtious as much as possible and not curse or try to use any language that could be offesive
[10:15] <Windy> no, i'm not a spambot
[10:16] <unop> starz,  no, you used another four-letter word thats worse
[10:16] <ardchoille> starz: Your convo is drifting ot
[10:16] <muuhDBX> starz: i agree kids should be banned from irc
[10:16] <starz> ardchoille agreed but guided by i assume ops
[10:16] <starz> muuhDBX i did not state that nor do i believe that.
[10:16] <vlt> I mean I have a running linux kernel, a network connection, no X ... Can I start an install process from that running system w/o booting from Install CD?
[10:16] <starz> i merely treat every entity i meet as a 40yo male till proven different.
[10:17] <Frogzoo> starz: muuhDBX -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:17] <ardchoille> starz: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:17] <starz> and unop im fairly certain that any word i used has legitimate purposes and would also be in any good dictionary :P
[10:17] <Jowi> !install | vlt (here are your installation options)
[10:17] <ubotu> vlt (here are your installation options): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:18] <asittler> olofdespair.net
[10:18] <asittler> eeep
[10:18] <muuhDBX> buy kids i was thinking about you starz ;D
[10:18] <royel> anyone know an easy way to change the size of icons on a desktop?
[10:18] <starz> in closing since this is directed at the rules for the room: perhaps one should consider the types of restrictions that are actually implied by blindly following rather than improving rules like that. while i would agree that it would not help anything for ppl to cuss someone out that is quite different from using a bit of language as an adverb here and there.
[10:18] <starz> royel yes right click on it and select resize.
[10:18] <Jowi> royel, right click on an icon and resize
[10:19] <starz> then click on the box on the corner and drag to however large you like :P
[10:19] <shinobi2> how can i wget recursively for  http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/introvb2005_ch06.ppt ?
[10:19] <royel> Jowi: starz: ty both, that was too hard for a dummy like me to figure out :)
[10:19] <muuhDBX> are kids the ones talking dirty online ?
[10:19] <starz> shinobi2 man wget - its right in there... or we could look at google..
[10:19] <rpedro> what's that program that use instead of 'make install' to create a deb package?
[10:20] <ardchoille> rpedro: checkinstall
[10:20] <shinobi2> starz: it did not work with wget -r address
[10:20] <starz> rpedro i use checkinstall
[10:20] <rpedro> ardchoille, starz: right, thanks
[10:20] <ardchoille> !checkinstall
[10:20] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[10:20] <starz> rpedro i believe ardchoille beat me :P
[10:20] <nanothief> about the ipv6: if noone has a solution, is there anywhere else I could go to get help? I've tried the forums and the help site.
[10:21] <flo_> anyone an idea?
[10:21] <starz> btw note on checkinstall: make sure that your version is correct; try to avoid pure letters in it.. there is a bug here and there
[10:21] <ardchoille> nanothief: I still believe your ipv6 is disabled and the problem is elsewhere.
[10:21] <unop> nanothief,  i would look into using another list of DNS servers
[10:21] <mc2003> !i/o error
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i/o error - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <|Z_E_R_O|> hi
[10:22] <Frogzoo> rpedro: //quit
[10:22] <|Z_E_R_O|> mc2003 i have the same error
[10:22] <mc2003> hi
[10:22] <mc2003> did u try to DL torrent?
[10:22] <starz> unop im thinking your right.. or an offchance its a hardware error... but sounds like its got to have a ipv6 dns server as main dns no?
[10:22] <nanothief> ardchoille: where else could the problem be? ping and firefox work perfectly on all sites in all domains, wget "asite" never works (which uses ipv6), while wget "asite" -4 always works (which doesn't use ipv6)
[10:22] <|Z_E_R_O|> dl torrent?
[10:22] <|Z_E_R_O|> no
[10:22] <|Z_E_R_O|> i tried acpi=off
[10:22] <|Z_E_R_O|> but nothing
[10:22] <mc2003> i get only when i try to DL torrs
[10:22] <|Z_E_R_O|> ah
[10:23] <|Z_E_R_O|> no i'm trying to install ubuntu
[10:23] <mc2003> :/
[10:23] <starz> oh
[10:23] <|Z_E_R_O|> but i got i/o erro
[10:23] <|Z_E_R_O|> r
[10:23] <mc2003> ouch..
[10:23] <mackinac> does nfs-server have any particular problems with vfat partitions?
[10:23] <|Z_E_R_O|> i have a I/O card
[10:23] <starz> shinobi2 i bet there is a referer link on that
[10:23] <unop> starz,  that or worse, the DNS server looks up IPv6 and is also a forwarder which forwards the queries on to a list of similar others
[10:23] <starz> i got a better way perhaps
[10:23] <starz> make sure that links or links2 or lynx is installed
[10:23] <starz> then go to the url with it
[10:24] <starz> and dl that way and it will follow across forwarders
[10:24] <yettenet> Hi there
[10:24] <starz> unop mm didnt htink of that tho i considered that perhaps the same dns server does ipv4 and 6?
[10:24] <shinobi2> starz: what's a referer link? the one from the host?
[10:24] <nanothief> unop: what other dns servers could I try, and where do I put them?
[10:24] <unop> nanothief,  how do name lookups on random hostnames fare?? e.g. nslookup google.co.jp
[10:25] <starz> shinobi2 when u click on xxxxx.com takes u to yyy.net takes u to zzz.org
[10:25] <nanothief> unop: that worked and returned 72.14.203.104
[10:25] <starz> a lot of download links for things are like that
[10:25] <yettenet> Could anyone help me in connection with sound problems? I don't hear any sound on my comp and I don't even know where to start
[10:25] <starz> especially if its php
[10:25] <starz> yettenet is the cords in tight
[10:25] <mackinac> !sound
[10:25] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:25] <yettenet> wait
[10:25] <yettenet> I think I found the solution
[10:25] <yettenet> Bah
[10:25] <starz> :P
[10:25] <starz> yettenet what was it then
[10:25] <starz> dont leave me hanging !
[10:25] <shinobi2> starz: no, it's not a refer link
[10:26] <yettenet> I had to take a look at the volume control... :D
[10:26] <muuhDBX> does any one belive in net privacy ?
[10:26] <shinobi2> starz:  how can i wget recursively for  http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/introvb2005_ch06.ppt ?
[10:26] <unop> nanothief,  but how quick was the looku p-- use dig to give you times --- dig google.co.in @yourprimarydnsserver
[10:26] <starz> yettenet thats the second thing to do.. look at the mixer and default sound device as mackinac was saying there...
[10:26] <mackinac> that was a good place to start! :)
[10:26] <ardchoille> muuhDBX: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <shinobi2> starz: wget recursively for  http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/
[10:26] <starz> well first
[10:27] <muuhDBX> i guess that offtopic
[10:27] <starz> yeah dont list a certain file there shinobi2
[10:27] <starz> i would do the mirrror option with the one where it doesnt go to parent directories
[10:27] <unop> shinobi2,  gwt -np -r http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/  should work
[10:27] <starz> wget -m -np linky
[10:27] <shinobi2> starz: i see a pattern there, just replace chapter 06 with 01, to 08 works
[10:27] <unop> wget*
[10:27] <Hasrat_USA> question: on windows XP, when i go to properties, i see the following texts ---> AMD Athlon (TM) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2 GHZ. the question is: which version of ubuntu should I install?
[10:27] <rylan> so, im looking for a way to get my webcam running. any ideas?
[10:27] <starz> unop's is probably cleaner
[10:27] <nanothief> unop: dig google.co.in @192.168.1.1 had a query time of 223msec
[10:27] <starz> mine tho sets up its own folder locally :P
[10:28] <starz> !webcam
[10:28] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:28] <Hasrat_USA> question: on windows XP, when i go to properties, i see the following texts ---> AMD Athlon (TM) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2 GHZ. the question is: which version of ubuntu should I install? Another problem is: i have mistakenly installed the i386 version
[10:28] <ardchoille> !repeat Hasrat_USA
[10:28] <unop> nanothief,  ok, can you !pastebin (not paste in here) the output from this command --  ifconfig -a; route -n
[10:28] <Madpilot> Hasrat_USA, probably the 32bit version, there's a 64bit version but it's got some issues
[10:28] <yettenet> Hm... and what should I download if I wanted to play mp3 messages?
[10:28] <starz> Hasrat_USA how much tolerance do you have for issues
[10:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | yettenet
[10:28] <ubotu> yettenet: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <starz> if you like messing with things 64 bit will be perfect :P
[10:28] <shinobi2> unop: nope that did not work
[10:29] <starz> otherwise 32 like the rest of us XD
[10:29] <econobeing> i liked the mouse pointer icon in mandriva, is there any way to get that in ubuntu?
[10:29] <starz> shinobi2 ok one sec ill do on my server
[10:29] <unop> shinobi2, any errors?
[10:29] <shinobi2> unop: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
[10:29] <yettenet> Thanks, Madpilot
[10:29] <bayziders> man I got this gg domain but no ideas for a site =\
[10:29] <mc2003> shoudnt Hasrat_USA install the x64 bit?
[10:29] <unop> shinobi2,  wget -U"Mozilla Firefox" -np -r http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/  should work
[10:29] <Madpilot> mc2003, why? 32bit has fewer problems, and will run just fine on 64bit CPUs
[10:30] <Hasrat_USA> mc2003 should I? really?
[10:30] <starz> hahahahaha
[10:30] <mackinac> mc2003, it's not recommended unless you really really need 64bit
[10:30] <starz> unop its not gonna work
[10:30] <starz> bots are forbidden
[10:30] <Hasrat_USA> or are you just jealous that i got a 64 bit PC?
[10:30] <starz> hes not mentioning the eror
[10:30] <Jowi> econobeing, download it from a site. place it in your .icons directory. install gcursor. run gcursor and select the new mouse pointer/cursor. restart xorg.
[10:30] <starz> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
[10:30] <shinobi2> unop: still forbidden
[10:30] <unop> shinobi2,  can you access http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/ using a regular browser?
[10:31] <mc2003> i thought that x32 is x32 and x64 must use x64 :/
[10:31] <mackinac> nah
[10:31] <starz> no unop
[10:31] <starz> no directory listing allowed :>
[10:31] <unop> starz,  well, then there's no way recursing is going to happen
[10:31] <starz> mc2003 x32 must use 32 x64 can use either
[10:31] <starz> unop agreed.
[10:31] <rylan> I need HELP. for some reason a bunch of my programs just "dont start"
[10:31] <nanothief> unop: ive pasted it but how do you generate a link to the paste? (im a bit new to irc)
[10:31] <starz> rylan like what?
[10:32] <Hasrat_USA> the ISO that i downloaded and burnt onto a CD has something like i386 in its filename and as far as i can remember, that 'i386' is what i installed and it never occurred to my mind that my PC isn't an Intel one
[10:32] <shinobi2> unop: it says directory listing denied
[10:32] <Jowi> rylan, start them from a terminal and see if you get errors
[10:32] <unop> nanothief,  once you submit your paste.. it returns a url which you can use
[10:32] <rylan> starz, like, i click the messenger program, it says "starting" then nothing
[10:32] <starz> Hasrat_USA you can install a kernel - look for it in synaptic
[10:32] <unop> shinobi2,  recursing is not going to happen from that URI then
[10:32] <Multiply> Why should i choose Ubuntu for my server, as the OS, instead of any other?
[10:32] <rylan> Jowi, how.
[10:32] <Jowi> Hasrat_USA, i386 is a general 32 bit version
[10:32] <shinobi2> unop: as i was saying, i can just change the chapter # and can download the rest
[10:32] <nanothief> unop: lol i wasn't thinking :S ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5885/
[10:32] <starz> rylan try opening a terminal and running said messenger program
[10:32] <shinobi2> unop: =(
[10:32] <starz> what program is it
[10:32] <unop> shinobi2,  you have to look into otherways to downloading -- what was the original URL again?
[10:32] <Hasrat_USA> this is what i loaded http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[10:32] <Jowi> rylan, open a terminal. type in the name of the program and press enter
[10:33] <starz> Hasrat_USA you got the right one for 32 bit it seems
[10:33] <Jowi> !terminal | rylan
[10:33] <ubotu> rylan: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:33] <shinobi2> unop: http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/introvb2005_ch02.ppt  works all the way to chapter 8
[10:33] <sdac221x_> hi can someone please help me set up a complete sources.list file ?  I added everything from guides but still can't find the stuff i need.
[10:33] <rylan> Jowi, terminal is one of the things not wanting to open
[10:33] <coNP> sdac221x_: what do you need?
[10:33] <starz> !sources
[10:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:33] <starz> and then there are my sources
[10:33] <ardchoille> sdac221x_: You're not adding debian sources are you?
[10:33] <sdac221x_> i need kwrite and google earth. do you recommend using the auto sources maker website
[10:33] <Jowi> rylan, same thing happen when you log out and in again?
[10:33] <coNP> sdac221x_: sure, that is cool :)
[10:33] <shinobi2> starz: let me know when you can try it on your server
[10:33] <rylan> Jowi, just started like a min ago
[10:34] <starz> sdac221x_ a lot of ppl wouldnt agree... but i use automatix for little things like google earth
[10:34] <Hasrat_USA> okay thanks starz but what about this? >>> AMD Athlon (TM) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2 GHZ. << why do I see that in my computer properties? my pc isn't a 32 bit pc. it's a 64 bit x2 dual core and all that crap lol
[10:34] <starz> kwrite should be in normal repos i think
[10:34] <Jowi> rylan, what did you do before this happened?
[10:34] <econobeing> Jowi: thanks, know where i can get any cursors?
[10:34] <unop> nanothief,  how does this fare - ping google.co.uk
[10:34] <yettenet> yay, I'm installing it! :)
[10:34] <sdac221x_> starz:  i found kate not kwrite so i added the kde stuff but still not there.
[10:34] <yettenet> Thanks for the help, guys
[10:34] <Jowi> econobeing, http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=36&PHPSESSID=8ca724b08080d3b3dce1401423b7ab87
[10:34] <rylan> Jowi, reading email, started installing some things from "add/remove applications"
[10:35] <starz> sdac221x_ add multiverse and universe to all repos
[10:35] <starz> reload and enjoy
[10:35] <unop> shinobi2,  you could try google's cache of that location -- google "site: http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/"
[10:35] <starz> Hasrat_USA 64bit x2 dual core is what that said it was
[10:35] <sdac221x_> starz do you have a website that gives those repos addresses ?
[10:35] <unop> shinobi2,  s/ //
[10:35] <Jowi> rylan, do you remember what you installed?
[10:35] <starz> Hasrat_USA you do have amd no?
[10:35] <nanothief> unop: it pings to 216.239.59.104 with an average time of about 370ms
[10:35] <coNP> sdac221x_: kwrite is in the kate package
[10:35] <Hasrat_USA> starz yes my PC is an AMD
[10:35] <coNP> sdac221x_: that is in main
[10:35] <unop> nanothief,  and does it ping almost immediately, any waiting times? if so how long?
[10:36] <sdac221x_> starz:  actually do you know the website of the auto sources maker.  i am unable to find with a google search..cant remember exact name
[10:36] <rylan> Jowi, yeah, Tremulous, (FPS) and a MSN program
[10:36] <ardchoille> !easysource | sdac221x_
[10:36] <ubotu> sdac221x_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:36] <nanothief> unop: no its basically instantainus (about half a second maybe or less)
[10:37] <shinobi2> unop: ? google " site:// http://giscenter.isu.edu/training/ppt/programming/"
[10:37] <unop> nanothief, errm, ok, which other applications are affected with this problem
[10:37] <Jowi> rylan, ok, try this: co to console with ctrl-alt-f1. login. type "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" and see if you get errors. you can come back to the graphical interface by pressing ctrl-alt-f7 or alt-7.
[10:37] <Jowi> s/co/go
[10:38] <starzz> eh
[10:38] <starzz> darn inet is so unstable atm
[10:38] <starzz> ~_~\
[10:38] <unop> shinobi2,  like this query here - http://tinyurl.com/2esc2e
[10:38] <nanothief> unop: wget, gaim, evolution, add/remove,the updater and the synaptic package manager
[10:39] <ardchoille> nanothief: add/remove and synaptic are only front-ends to APT
[10:39] <unop> nanothief,  errm, dang .. lol thats basically everything
[10:39] <Hasrat_USA> okay i'm sure i should install the 64 bit one from ubuntu's site lol. by the way since i already have installed a version of ubuntu, what would I do after burning the 64 bit iso for my AMD is complete? should i just make it a liveCD and boot from it again? or should i somehow uninstall the current version first?
[10:40] <mackinac> Hasrat_USA, the first thing
[10:40] <starzz> Hasrat_USA
[10:40] <Hasrat_USA> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041,00.html << and this is the exact chip i have. and in ubuntu's site, they are saying "For computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). It is not necessary for all (even most) processors made by AMD -- only their 64 bit chips" and mine is a 64 bit chip
[10:40] <starzz> did you make a seperate partition for /home ?
[10:40] <nanothief> unop: lol i know. But firefox works and through that I can manually download everything but it is cumbersome
[10:40] <Hasrat_USA> starz yes sir
[10:40] <Hasrat_USA> and also a seperate partition for linux swao
[10:40] <Hasrat_USA> *swap
[10:40] <starzz> because if so you can just set each partition to its old use and it will reformat / and swap and keep home if you tell it to which can be nice at times
[10:41] <unop> nanothief, that page was only to give you a clue of what URLs (and combinations) you could then use from wget and a script :)
[10:41] <nanothief> unop: I'm not sure if this helps but aMSN and chatzilla work, as well as the default dictionary program
[10:41] <starzz> go go bash scription eh unop
 Hasrat_USA, the first thing << ?
[10:41] <unop> nanothief,  err, sorry, disregard my last comment -- that should have been for shinobi2
[10:42] <rylan_> hmmm, looks like everything is back to normal
[10:42] <nanothief> unop: irc does that to people
[10:42] <unop> nanothief,  let's see your /etc/resolv.conf then -- pastebin
[10:42] <mackinac> Hasrat_USA, " should i just make it a liveCD and boot from it again? or should i somehow uninstall the current version first?" boot again, reinstall / to / as starzz said :)
[10:42] <rylan_> nono, programs still not working.
[10:42] <nanothief> unop: its just one line: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[10:42] <rylan_> can someone tell me how to launch a program from terminal?
[10:42] <Hasrat_USA> uh
[10:43] <coNP> rylan_: you type its name
[10:43] <unop> starzz,  bash meh no, well, yea, if you like -- i'd prefer something with a bit more errm, hubris
[10:43] <coNP> rylan_: or which exactly do you want to start
[10:43] <starzz> like gaim : open terminal and type::::::: gaim
[10:43] <Hasrat_USA> lol launching a program from terminal is COOL
[10:43] <rylan_> gaim instant messenger isnt working
[10:43] <starzz> rylan_ what is the exact error
[10:43] <Hasrat_USA> that's not possible rylan
[10:43] <unop> nanothief,  hrrm, i'd replace that one and add in a few more if i were you -- one sec
[10:43] <rylan_> coNP, i want to launch gaim instant messenger
[10:44] <starzz> the thing about windows is that the errors are quite vague at times whereas in linux just googleing errors will fix stuff 97% of the time
[10:44] <coNP> rylan_: okay, then open a gnome terminal and type gaim <enter>
[10:44] <rylan_> starzz, for some reason a bunch of programs arent working
[10:44] <starzz> or will find the fixes... only problem is that sometimes its hard to follow the fixes XD
[10:45] <starzz> anyway rylan_ do what coNP there is asking he can probably help u quite well ^^
[10:45] <starzz> wb Hasrat_USA
[10:45] <shinobi2> unop: i get i can do a script, but a guessing game still =) hahah
[10:46] <Hasrat_USA> thanks accidentally clicked the X icon lol
[10:46] <unop> nanothief,  try these  http://pastebin.ca/356869
[10:46] <starzz> heh
[10:46] <shinobi2> unop: i guess i can do ...
[10:46] <unop> shinobi2,  well, google is just one of the search engines that maintains a cache :>
[10:46] <unop> ...
[10:46] <starzz> that part mssg there is so darn true.... high quality minds tend to go in one of two directions.. or some of each :>
[10:46] <starzz> :
[10:46] <shinobi2> unop: thanks
[10:47] <rylan_> coNP, looks like that is working again, now is there a way that i can get my webcam to work?
[10:47] <nanothief> unop: ok done. How do I make them take affect (do I need to reboot?)
[10:47] <unop> nanothief,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:47] <coNP> rylan_: it might, however I never used a webcam...
[10:47] <starzz> rylan_
[10:47] <rylan_> coNP, ah, one last question. how do i go about getting wine to work?
[10:47] <starzz> what other programs were not working tho
[10:48] <starzz> and what are you trying to do with wine
[10:48] <coNP> rylan_: that is easy, first install wine (from universe)
[10:48] <rylan_> just thought i should get to know it.
[10:48] <rylan_> coNP, already did that
[10:48] <stylus> I'm attempting to setup oidentd as my identd. It seems to be running, but obviously isn't configured properly..
[10:49] <starzz> rylan_ i agree its fun to play with things... but what do you wanna use it for exactly?
[10:49] <nanothief> unop: I did the networking restart thing, and a lot of text was outputted, but after it finished wget "www.google.com" still didn't work
[10:49] <coNP> rylan_: cool, then try to run whatever you want :)
[10:49] <stylus> What line should be in /etc/services?
[10:49] <vagelis> i want to download theams
[10:49] <ardchoille> unop: his /etc/resolv.conf will get re-written on reboot and all that work will be undone
[10:49] <rylan_> i wanted to get possibly some games, and photoshop are my two important ones
[10:49] <coNP> vagelis: for your gnome / kde desktop?
[10:49] <starzz> sudo apt-get install gimp
[10:49] <unop> ardchoille,  only if resolvconf is installed .. but anyway, its not the problem
[10:50] <starzz> anyway there is an extensive section on gaming in the forums: www.ubuntuforums.org which i highly recommend you read
[10:50] <coNP> and try wesnoth :
[10:50] <starzz> as that might require bleeding edge packages
[10:50] <coNP> )
[10:50] <starzz> coNP wats wesnoth >?
[10:50] <coNP> ! wesnoth
[10:50] <newest> hey is it necessary to be using peergaurdian when dl with azureus, whilst in ubuntu?
[10:50] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[10:50] <starzz> ah lol
[10:50] <Frogzoo> starzz: turn based strategy game - think might & magic
[10:51] <starzz> yeah
[10:51] <coNP> I *love* that :) and it is open source as well
[10:51] <vagelis> i want to download theams do you now?
[10:51] <starzz> ive played a few from the repos.. lot o fun
[10:51] <coNP> vagelis: what theams?
[10:51] <starzz> but u gotta love DOPEWARS !!!
[10:51] <fix--> are there any hp or dell servers where you can install ubuntu server on without any problem (with raid controller?)
[10:51] <coNP> lol @ starzz
[10:51] <starzz> in fact it should be installed by default on all systems
[10:51] <starzz> i would donate a penny per install if it were probably
[10:51] <fix--> The last del I bought I had to use a custom kernel to install th damn thing
[10:52] <starzz> towards afund that did something good :D
[10:52] <fix--> anybody a good solution ?
[10:52] <unop> nanothief,  can you pastebin this -- wget -v google.co.kr
[10:52] <osfameron> dopewars is a big timesink for me
[10:52] <osfameron> so is frozen bubble
[10:52] <starzz> fix-- try alternate install cd worx wonders
[10:52] <vagelis> coNP: ubuntu
[10:52] <newest> hey is it necessary to be using peergaurdian when dl with azureus, whilst in ubuntu?
[10:52] <starzz> if installation is the problem :P
[10:52] <fix--> starzz, yeah but I need to buy new hardware
[10:52] <osfameron> and mahjong...  actually, it's a good thing I don't try any actual contemporary games or mulitplayer things, or I would completely lose my entire life
[10:52] <starzz> newest peerguardian just sets itself up as a firewall to protect you from ebil ips
[10:52] <fix--> just want the hardware to be supported out of the box
[10:53] <starzz> but remember even that is not really enough.
[10:53] <fix--> specially the raid controller
[10:53] <newest> so would i reaaaally need it?
[10:53] <starzz> someone has to get caught for anyone to know the ip is evil.
[10:53] <newest> or am i pretty safe?
[10:53] <starzz> newest yes.
[10:53] <newest> oh
[10:53] <coNP> vagelis: you mean more themes than the ones available in your gnome control center?
[10:53] <starzz> your pirating stuff
[10:53] <starzz> so yes
[10:53] <ardchoille> osfameron: crack-attack, lbreakout2 and chromium
[10:53] <newest> cause... there no version of peergaurdian available for linux yet...
[10:53] <ardchoille> osfameron: Oh, and powermanga
[10:53] <starzz> but must you use azureus?
[10:53] <newest> what should i use in place?
[10:53] <nanothief> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5889/
[10:53] <starzz> install wine and use utorrent.
[10:53] <Hasrat_USA> I know it's gonna be a dumb question but duh....what does http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/edgy/release/ubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso have that http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso doesn't have? in brief, would it be great if i download Ubuntu 6.10's dvd version instead of CD? i have a fast connection (8 MBPS dedicated)
[10:54] <starz> i use bittornado
[10:54] <coNP> Hasrat_USA: not at all
[10:54] <newest> yeah, cause most of the private trackers i use only really let clients away with azureus
[10:54] <vagelis> coNP: images
[10:54] <coNP> Hasrat_USA: I would recommend you to download the CD and select the other packages you like
[10:54] <starz> i use the cli interface: btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado /path/to/torrents/dir
[10:54] <rylan_> now, anyone here know how i would go about getting my webcam to work?
[10:54] <unop> nanothief,  heh, you using a proxy server?
[10:54] <starz> they let bittornado all the way almost everywhere ever
[10:54] <coNP> Hasrat_USA: they can be downloaded and installed, especially when you have a fast connection then you might want to download only the packages you want to install
[10:54] <newest> so what should i use in place of peergaurdian?
[10:54] <unop> nanothief,  or ever tried using one?
[10:55] <ardchoille> Hasrat_USA: The DVD has more packages. But, if you install from the cd, then installing more apps is just an spt-get install away.
[10:55] <nanothief> unop: i'm not but I think my network is.
[10:55] <starz> and never ever EVER use ktorrent. in fact no one use ktorrent its very very very broken.
[10:55] <nanothief> unop: under system-preferences-network proxy "direct internet connection" is selected
[10:55] <unop> nanothief,  well, it's clear from there that it's trying to use the proxy at 1.0.0.0:80
[10:56] <nanothief> unop: oh i just thought it meant the dns lookup failed and it returned 1.0.0.0
[10:56] <Hasrat_USA> i see. lol the main difference is the number of packages. okay ardchoille and coNP thanks for sharing the information. I thought "omg the dvd is 3.5 GB while the CD only 700 MB and omg the dvd is so cool and stuff" lol
[10:56] <dooglus> starz: how does getting caught tell anyone which IP is evil?
[10:57] <newest> mm' kay, so what should i use instead of peergaurdian?
[10:57] <unop> nanothief,  1.0.0.0 is a non-existant network .. i bet you, all lookups are being direcred there -- try for e.g. - wget -v youtube.com
[10:57] <ardchoille> Hasrat_USA: If it's on the DVD, it's in the repos :)
[10:57] <coNP> Hasrat_USA: yep it is cool, but every cool program is available from the repos :)
[10:57] <Hasrat_USA> brb going back to ubuntu from XP
[10:57] <nanothief> unop: yep 1.0.0.0 again
[10:58] <nanothief> but wget -v youtube.com -4  works see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5891/
[10:58] <unop> nanothief,  ok, errm -- enter root's shell and try wget -v there --  sudo -i .. and then type wget -v google.co.in
[10:59] <starzz> sigh
[10:59] <senectus> k
[10:59] <osfameron> ardchoille: NOOOOOOOO!! ;-)
[10:59] <starzz> my inet is sooooooooooooooo unstable
[11:00] <nanothief> unop: it gives the same 1.0.0.0 output
[11:00] <ardchoille> osfameron: ?
[11:00] <osfameron> ardchoille: the games recommendations :-)  Now my life will be completely swamped ;-)
[11:01] <osfameron> ardchoille: which is to say, "thanks", I've noted the recommendations
[11:01] <senectus> I cant seem to upgrade from dapper to edgy via CDROM, any idea's why dpkg-dev
[11:01] <senectus> g++
[11:01] <senectus> libc6-dev are causing me problems?
[11:01] <unop> nanothief, hmm
[11:01] <ardchoille> osfameron: Ah, cool :)
[11:02] <ardchoille> osfameron: I dislike multi-player games and the ones I recommended to you are cool for single-player.
[11:02] <osfameron> ardchoille: excellent. It's not that I dislike multi, just that I don't have lots of gamer friends or broadband at home, and I'm also steering clear of it when I do have broadband, as I know I'd get addicted :-)
[11:02] <guns_> haiiiiiiiiiii
[11:03] <unop> nanothief,  is the output of this command "sudo aptitude update" similar to what's seen here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88625
[11:03] <ardchoille> osfameron: hahaha
[11:03] <guns_> hooooooooooo
[11:03] <rylan_> hmmm, so webcams are pretty much a non-option in ubuntu
[11:03] <Frogzoo> !hardware | rylan_
[11:03] <ubotu> rylan_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:04] <I-kido> haaaai guns
[11:04] <guns_> u now...when i met u at 1st sight. i know but u is mongkey,,heehee
[11:04] <nanothief> unop: very similar (but i cancled before it got all the way through)
[11:05] <I-kido> :)
[11:05] <nanothief> unop: a way I found to get some programs working was to add the hostname and ip address (found with ping) to the hosts file
[11:06] <vlt> Hello. I'm trying to comlile a kernel module. I installed linux-source and -headers, unzipped the source and created some symlinks that point to it. When running make I get 3,663 lines of stderr output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5870  --- What am i doing wrong here?
[11:06] <vlt> compile*
[11:06] <guns_> well...but u,r same with mongkey.btw where do u from?
[11:06] <I-kido> holland
[11:06] <unop> nanothief,  ok, seems like quite a few other people have this problem, even in other distros
[11:07] <daya> where can i found the driver for SigmaTel STAC9200 Sound Controller
[11:07] <mc2003> anyone heard about the corrupted data torrent kernel bug?i get an I/O error and a lock on drives after i try to DL a torrent with Any client.......i need a URL to see what to do.....
[11:08] <nanothief> unop: have the other people managed to get it fixed? I can survive using the host file hack, but it is tedius to have to add every address visited by sites other than firefox
[11:08] <unop> nanothief,  yea, that's just a workaround tho, the real issue is with something else -- i would try reinstalling the bind-host -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge bind-host bind9-host; /etc/init.d/networking restart; aptitude install bind bind9-host"
[11:08] <guns_> its to far.im from bali.do u now Bali
[11:08] <unop> nanothief,  while you run this command, i shall find out _if_ other people have gotten it fixed :)
[11:08] <sdaxc1> hi do 2 types of drivers for ati exist ?  I have fglrx... is there another driver made by ATI ?  if so is it better
[11:08] <unop> nanothief,  oops
[11:08] <xstasi> hi!
[11:08] <unop> nanothief,  hold on with the command
[11:09] <xstasi> is there a netinst for ubuntu like debian?
[11:09] <I-kido> I know bali guns, my gf is half endonesian
[11:09] <ardchoille> guns_ , I-kido Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <xstasi> i don't want to download all the 650 MB..
[11:09] <nanothief> unop: ummm tooo late???
[11:09] <I-kido> oops sorry
[11:09] <I-kido> ur right
[11:09] <unop> nanothief, sudo sh -c "aptitude purge bind-host bind9-host; /etc/init.d/networking restart; aptitude install bind-host bind9-host"
[11:09] <rylan_> ok, looking for some help here. i need to install a program i got off the internet, whats the code for that?
[11:09] <unop> nanothief,  nahh, just a little mistake, all done now
[11:10] <ardchoille> rylan_: Are you sure that app isn't in the repos?
[11:10] <rylan_> ardchoille, i checked. unfortunatly my girlfriend is chinese and needs a version of QQ instant messenger, i found EVA. (and i hope it works)
[11:11] <unop> nanothief,  restart networking after that too
[11:11] <ardchoille> rylan_: Ok, what kind of file is it? .deb? .bin?
[11:11] <rylan_> .tar.bz2
[11:11] <nanothief> unop: i've got the first command running
[11:11] <ardchoille> rylan_: You'll need to unpack it and read any docs inside before continuing
[11:11] <rylan_> ardchoille, thx
[11:12] <ardchoille> rylan_: Most of the time, the docs tell you how to compile/install.
[11:12] <unop> nanothief, is that the first one or the correction i gave you?
[11:12] <rylan_> ardchoille, thanks
[11:13] <starz> rylan_ also sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:14] <nanothief> unop: I did the second command and its finished
[11:14] <starz> good place to start.. add checkinstall in there also and double check there isnt a package for it in the repos and check the forums if someone has already made it for your flavor of ubuntu
[11:14] <starz> kay ninie night all
[11:14] <unop> nanothief,  ok, restart networking and try again
[11:15] <nanothief> unop: wget "www.google.com" still returns 1.0.0.0 :(
[11:16] <unop> nanothief,  ok, i'm still googling -- while i am doing that, let this timeconsuming command run -  sudo egrep -inHR '1\.0\.0\.0' /*
[11:17] <unop> nanothief,  let me know if anything comes up when it is running
[11:17] <nanothief> unop: i've got a couple "no such file or directory" or "no such device or address"
[11:18] <nanothief> unop: such as /bin/lsmod.modutils, /dev/nvidia0, /dev/nvidiactl and /dev/log
[11:18] <unop> nanothief,  ok, apart from errors :p
[11:18] <nanothief> unop: ok :lol:
[11:19] <darek> ??
[11:19] <darek> im from poland
[11:19] <unop> !pl
[11:19] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:19] <unop> nanothief,  do you use a wireless card by any chance?
[11:20] <nanothief> unop: nope i use adsl broadband through a router
[11:20] <unop> nanothief,  what kind of router?
[11:20] <nanothief> unop: a web excel adsl2/2+ router
[11:21] <Frogzoo> nanothief: ping www.yahoo.com ?
[11:21] <pukeko> anyone setup mgetty in /etc/event.d ?
[11:22] <nanothief> unop: it pinged yahoo all right
[11:22] <Multiply> !dk
[11:22] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[11:22] <Frogzoo> pukeko: what's wrong with getty, if you don't mind me asking?
[11:23] <unop> nanothief,  it seems ping isnt affected by this problem -- i think  wget -v yahoo.com  would still return 1.0.0.0
[11:23] <pukeko> Frogzoo: dial-in modem
[11:23] <nanothief> unop: right you are (i checked :D)
[11:24] <unop> nanothief,  any progress on the grep?
[11:24] <nanothief> unop: no its still going (nothing has been added for a long time though)
[11:25] <unop> nanothief,  ok, let that run then -- what does this return - dpkg -l | grep -i dns
[11:25] <Frogzoo> nanothief: do you have a web proxy set? either in connection settings or wgetrc ?
[11:25] <Frogzoo> pukeko: havne't done it: should be pretty straightforward, no?
[11:26] <unop> Frogzoo,  apparently, it's quite a few other applications - evolution, gaim, synaptic, apt, etc
[11:26] <nanothief> unop: output of dpkg... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5892/
[11:26] <Frogzoo> nanothief: system -> preferences -> network proxy - disable
[11:26] <pukeko> Frogzoo: i am used to inittab format
[11:26] <Frogzoo> nanothief: then start a new term & try again
[11:27] <LeFrenchy> hello there
[11:27] <Frogzoo> pukeko: just copy one of the tty files in /etc/event.d/
[11:27] <nanothief> Frogzoo: it is already on "direct connection to the internet"
[11:27] <muuhDBX> http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0611/feature2/gallery16.html look it kisss the penguin ! how sweet :D
[11:27] <Frogzoo> nanothief: echo $http_proxy
[11:27] <k1piee> hey
[11:27] <LeFrenchy> i need a little help: i can't play flac files with xine
[11:28] <nanothief> Frogzoo: it just prints an empty line
[11:28] <pukeko> Frogzoo: nope that don't work i think it needs an exec in there somewhere..
[11:28] <LeFrenchy> anyone?
[11:29] <pukeko> muuhDBX: what exactly "kiss the penguin" ?
[11:29] <k1piee> investigating
[11:30] <Frogzoo> nanothief: try again from a new terminal
[11:30] <LeFrenchy> hello?
[11:30] <unop> nanothief,  verify that /etc/resolv.conf is what i gave you -- and hasnt reverted
[11:30] <Frogzoo> LeFrenchy: noone knows
[11:30] <nanothief> Frogzoo: it still gives an empty line
[11:30] <LeFrenchy> aaargh
[11:30] <adrien> #ubuntu-fr
[11:30] <nanothief> unop: it reverted :P
[11:31] <unop> nanothief,  really?
[11:31] <nanothief> unop: its now nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:32] <unop> nanothief,  do you have the link i gave you for the ones i posted?
[11:32] <nanothief> unop: no ive lost it
[11:32] <fanny_> ccc
[11:33] <unop> nanothief,  ok, hold on a second
[11:33] <CheshireViking> LeFrenchy, i don't know anything about flac files, but found this link from google, maybe this'll help http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/play-flac-files-in-amarok-on-ubuntu/ it mentions a bug in xine with flac files
[11:33] <nanothief> unop: got it again
[11:34] <LeFrenchy> thanks viking
[11:34] <papo> hi
[11:34] <nanothief> nanothief: ive put the replacement text back in, should i restart the network again?
[11:35] <nanothief> unop: ive put the replacement text back in, should i restart the network again?
[11:35] <nanothief> ... oooops
[11:35] <unop> nanothief,  errm, dont
[11:35] <nanothief> unop: ok
[11:35] <unop> nanothief,  just try wgetting something now
[11:36] <nanothief> unop: It worked!!!!!!
[11:36] <papo> in universe, there is a package available containing the header file for this library... but in which package is the shared library itself?
[11:36] <nanothief> unop: wget is getting yahoo and google now!!!
[11:37] <unop> nanothief,  so it's working then?
[11:38] <nanothief> unop: yes it seems so. Add/Remove successfully updated its program list, which it has never done before
[11:38] <nanothief> unop: thank you so much for your help this one has had me stuck for a long time
[11:38] <unop> nanothief,  sounds like a problem with your router there - you need to get /etc/resolv.conf to change
[11:39] <unop> nanothief,  try and remove this package -- sudo aptitude purge resolvconf
[11:39] <dexem__> hi
[11:39] <dexem__> I'm having a problem using sabayon in ubuntu. When I try to edit a profile, it gets frozen... could it be something related to permissions or... what should I check?
[11:39] <shapras> how to install JDK to root directory?
[11:39] <unop> nanothief,  if it complains that too many packages depend on it, then cancel
[11:39] <unop> shapras,  you mean /?
[11:40] <shapras> yes
[11:40] <shapras> we must be JDK
[11:40] <nanothief> unop: i dont think i had it on my computer, as it gave no prompt to remove it
[11:40] <unop> dexem__,  sabayon is another distro, am i right? if so how are you running it under ubuntu?
[11:41] <dexem__> unop: sabayon is a system administration tool also
[11:41] <unop> nanothief,  well, lets see the output
[11:41] <dexem__> unop: apt-cache search sabayon
[11:41] <dexem__> sabayon - system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings
[11:41] <dexem__> :P
[11:41] <unop> dexem__,  ok, in that case, disregard my last -- i'm sorry
[11:41] <nanothief> unop: output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5895/
[11:41] <dexem__> :)
[11:42] <unop> shapras, the JDK needs to go in /usr/lib dude .. why are you wanting to put it in /?
[11:43] <unop> nanothief,  hmm, well, I would do this -- sudo chmod a-w /etc/resolv.conf
[11:43] <shapras> I frits time instaling extrating files.
[11:43] <phatrabbit> hi where can i find the ubuntu beryl channel
[11:43] <unop> phatrabbit,  probably #ubuntu-effects
[11:43] <nanothief> unop: ok done (although it didn't appear to do anything)
[11:43] <phatrabbit> also is there a command to show what graphics card i am running
[11:43] <coNP> phatrabbit: I guess #ubuntu-effects
[11:43] <phatrabbit> thanks
[11:44] <unop> nanothief,   whatd oes this return -- ls -ld /etc/resolv.conf
[11:44] <shapras> how ti install JDK to this directory "/usr/lib/"?
[11:44] <nanothief> unop: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 75 2007-02-15 21:34 /etc/resolv.conf
[11:44] <unop> phatrabbit,  lspci usually lists devices
[11:44] <unop> nanothief,  ok, looks good-- try all your usualy diagnostics now :)
[11:45] <unop> shapras,  why dont you just follow what the instructions say .. which package are you installing, the one from sun?
[11:45] <shapras> becouse then use command "chmod .." then extrating to cataloge there file been.
[11:45] <shapras> by JDK instrukction
[11:45] <shapras> but not instaling to these directory
[11:46] <shapras> "/usr/lib"
[11:46] <nanothief> unop: yep it still works
[11:46] <nanothief> unop: and gaim also now works
[11:46] <unop> nanothief,  :)
[11:46] <unop> nanothief,  you should be ok now :d
[11:46] <nanothief> unop: so it will be ok to reboot and everything
[11:47] <unop> nanothief,  I should presume yes .. but please make sure -- if it doesnt stick, come back and we'll hack around that
[11:47] <nanothief> unop: thanks again for your help :)
[11:48] <nanothief> unop: ill think ill try rebooting to see if it works
[11:48] <unop> shapras,  if you chmodded that file and ran it, it will have installed all files into a location like this /usr/lib/java-sdk ...
[11:48] <unop> nanothief,  yw, :) yea, and try rebooting
[11:48] <ndlovu> anyone know of a good ghost util that's open source? I need it to be able to ghost windows installations.
[11:48] <LeFrenchy> you guys know a good payer who can easily organise over 13,000 audio files?
[11:49] <LeFrenchy> don't say amarok
[11:49] <pty> LeFrenchy: have you tried quod libet ?
[11:49] <LeFrenchy> no, not yet
[11:49] <LeFrenchy> does it woth it?
[11:50] <pty> I have about 10,000 tracks and it works fine
[11:50] <shapras> i try
[11:50] <jattks> alright lads
[11:50] <LeFrenchy> i'll "throw an eye" on it
[11:50] <Tode_I> Hey y'all. Just installed and it's defaulted to a too-high setting for the wimpy 15" CRT, so the screen is garbled. How do I change the setting, other than reinstalling?
[11:51] <shapras> unop:  first what I must do, tha JDK file place into /user/lib?
[11:52] <shapras> and do chmod
[11:52] <nanothief> unop: it stopped working :(
[11:52] <sebrock> anyone using gdesklets? My starterbar shows all the time, it's on top of all programs?
[11:54] <sebrock> gdesklets
[11:56] <concept10> how do I get real video to open in anything else but the non working totem?
[11:56] <ndlovu> Tode_I, can you open a text terminal (Ctrl-F3 for example)?
[11:57] <ndlovu> Tode_I, That should be Ctrl+Alt+F3
[11:58] <Slart> ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[11:58] <ndlovu> Slart, good point :)
[11:58] <Slart> I've sent people off into console land before =)
[11:58] <Slart> without telling them that
[11:58] <jussi01> concept10: right click on the file, then open with then choose the program...
[11:59] <jussi01>  concept10: or did you want it straigt from firefox??
[11:59] <concept10> jussi01, doesnt work, this is a javascript web link
[11:59] <felix_> !jed
[11:59] <ubotu> jed: editor for programmers (textmode version). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.18-4 (edgy), package size 113 kB, installed size 292 kB
[11:59] <ndlovu> Slart, lol
[12:00] <Slart> looks like we lost Tode_I too.. well.. he'll be back after a reboot..
[12:01] <Slart> they really should print that to the console when doing the shift+alt-thingy... "to return to x, press ctrl+alt+f7"
[12:01] <jussi01> concept10: wait one, just finding it :D
[12:01] <ndlovu> Slart, so it would seem. although if the display was garbled, he'd probably be using a different computer :-\
[12:02] <Slart> ndlovu: true.. we'll just have to wait and see
[12:03] <cyclops> I would like to help with a sound recording issue, is there someone availible?
[12:03] <Tode_I> Sorry, got impatient and went to the forums.
[12:03] <Tode_I> ...which appears to have made it worse. :>
[12:03] <SteveCoffee> Hello Everybody :D *hope its working this time
[12:03] <ndlovu> Tode_I, glad we haven't lost you ;)
[12:03] <Tode_I> Heh
[12:04] <Tode_I> I rebooted to console and did this:
[12:04] <Tode_I> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:04] <cyclops> I need to figure out why when I attempt to record a sound from my mic, it just records dead air?
[12:04] <Tode_I> based on a post in the forum. I tried to pick safe values, but now X failed to start.
[12:04] <cyclops> I have a Creative Labs SB Live! card, and it records audio in Windows
[12:04] <ndlovu> Tode_I, that would have been my suggestion also
[12:05] <Tode_I> "Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"
[12:05] <SteveCoffee> does someone know the name from the programm DSL uses to show the system stats (netload, batterie, Cpu..diskspace...) on the desktop i dont think its gdesktop and im trying to find it.
[12:05] <Frogzoo> cyclops: check your levels - sound -> volume control
[12:06] <Tode_I> Screens found, but none have a usable configuration. Blarg.
[12:06] <cyclops> Done that, I have enabled "Capture" and "Mic" and selected "Mic1" as well.
[12:07] <rangans> Hi guys I am trying to figure out how to uninstall unwanted packages and if I remove some in synaptic manager like dvd+r tools or evolution mail which I am never going to use iit removes all dependent packages including ubuntu desktop
[12:07] <ndlovu> Tode_I, not something I've come across I'm afraid
[12:07] <rangans> is there a safe way to remove unwanted software using dpkg or synaptic
[12:07] <unop> SteveCoffee,  whats DSL?
[12:07] <SteveCoffee> DamnSmallLinux.
[12:08] <unop> SteveCoffee,  why are you asking about DSL in ubuntu?
[12:08] <Tode_I> Story of my life - Somehow, I always manage to get the really oddball issues.
[12:08] <phatrabbit> !fixres
[12:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:08] <SteveCoffee> im using xubuntu right now, im was looking if maybe one knows the programm or a somelike like it for ubuntu beside gdesktop.
[12:09] <cyclops> Frogzoo, any ideas if that doesn't work?
[12:09] <Tode_I> Thanks, I'll give that a read. :>
[12:09] <unop> SteveCoffee,  its probably a DSL specific utility, please find the DSL channel and ask them
[12:09] <Tode_I> Will the commands "For Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake):" work for 6.10?
[12:09] <Tode_I> Cause there's nothing on the page for 6.10
[12:10] <SteveCoffee> i agree unop will be the fastet way :D
[12:10] <unop> SteveCoffee,  :)
[12:10] <coNP> yep, unop is even faster than ubotu
[12:10] <cyclops> hmm...  is that a no?
[12:11] <rangans> could somebody help me with synaptic /dpkg problem. I want to remoe some totally unwanted packages and not sure how
[12:11] <tobylane> Wow..
[12:11] <unop> coNP, you arent implying that ubotu was a prototype now, are you? :p
[12:13] <Slart> rangans: just to be sure here.. is it really necessary to remove these programs?
[12:13] <Kapuche> hi !
[12:13] <Frogzoo> cyclops: dude it works - check file -> device   &  edit -> preferences - for levels not currently displayed
[12:13] <ndlovu> Tode_I, I usually get the best answers by searching on ubuntuforums.org
[12:13] <Slart> rangans: most "premade" , "ready to use" distributions come in big pieces.. sometimes you can't remove just one little part without the whole thing going with it
[12:13] <dooglus> can someone help me to get my middle speaker to work in ubuntu please?  it works in Windows, but not ubuntu
[12:13] <unop> rangans,  hmm, well, probably needs to be done by hand - what i do is open synaptic .. and sort by installed packages .. then i go through the list, if i feel a package does not belong on my system i try and uninstall it :)
[12:13] <rangans> Slart: I am working on a small pre-built vmdisk and so I would like to remove several unwanted programs to make room for some new ones I am planning to install
[12:14] <unop> rangans,  errm .. i "mark for removal" actually , to save time
[12:14] <ndlovu> Tode_I, you could try http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=14609228 (not sure if the link will work)
[12:14] <linuxor> Please, How to rename 100 files as file001, file002 .... ?
[12:14] <Slart> rangans: oh.. then I guess you'd be better off using some other distro.. perhaps one specifically designed to be small.. or build it yourself from scratch
[12:14] <rangans> unop: by hand how?? using dpkg commands if so could you direct me on what to read tx
[12:14] <Slart> rangans: but there might be a way to do it with ubuntu... but I don't know one
[12:15] <unop> rangans,  read my post again please
[12:15] <cyclops> Frogzoo, Done that, I even tried to use OSS for the recording source, neither will pick up anything from the microphone to capture it.
[12:16] <Slart> linuxor: some bash scripting.. what do you have now?
[12:16] <rangans> Slart: thanks for the heads up on other distros might try others
[12:16] <dooglus> linuxor: n=0; for i in *; do mv -i "$i" $(printf "file%03d" $n); ((n++)); done
[12:16] <SteveCoffee> linuxor, i dont know if its in a ubuntu, its in xubuntu . look unter apps -> system -> bulk-rename
[12:16] <Slart> rangans: you're welcome
[12:16] <linuxor> Slart : yes
[12:16] <rangans> unop: I am not sure if I mark for removal in synaptic it asks several other packages to be marked as well
[12:16] <assasukasse> hi everyone, i wish to use my pda with edgy, what should i do, simply pluggin in doesnt work
[12:16] <linuxor> SteveCoffe : bu shell
[12:16] <unop> rangans,  well, then you go through those other packages and see if you want to keep them or not
[12:17] <SteveCoffee> yeah i was to slow when you said that ;)
[12:17] <Slart> linuxor: look at dooglus little script there... that's one way
[12:17] <SteveCoffee> dooglus, already gave you answer :D
[12:17] <cyclops> Frogzoo,  if I unmute the microphone in the play options, I can also hear it via the speakers and it causes feedback
[12:17] <rangans> unop: Many packages like (cups printer files which i never use/have bluetooth evolution email all want to remove ubuntu-desktop which I definitely want to keep
[12:18] <unop> !info ubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:18] <unop> rangans,  ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which you can definitely remove without any adverse effect
[12:19] <jussi01> Can someone tell me how to safely remove open office... is synaptic the best way? or is there a good uninstaller that remvoes everything you dont need as well...?
[12:19] <rangans> unop: I am sorry so you mean to say ubuntu-desktop is optional and I can still have the GUI without the ubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <unop> rangans,  exactly
[12:19] <cyclops> Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to record from a microphone?
[12:19] <Slart> jussi01: synaptic is a good uninstaller for almost everything.. including openoffice I'd assume
[12:19] <rangans> unop: oh never knew that before thanks a lot will try that
[12:20] <jussi01> Slart: thanks - just thought to check that that there wasnt some special way...
[12:20] <IdleOne> rangans, ubuntu-desktop is just a file with a list of all the packages that comprise the ubuntu desktop so once it is installed you can remove that file ( ubuntu-desktop ) and still have all the GUI
[12:20] <unop> jussi01,  something like this might do -- sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i "openoffice.org" | cut -c 3-30 | xargs)
[12:21] <Slart> jussi01: synaptic is as special as it gets.. it keeps track of all installed software.. knows what needs what etc..
[12:21] <rangans> IdleOne: just to make sure would taht break my future upgrades if I do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <unop> jussi01,  that command is not tested so i'd see what this returns first - dpkg -l | grep -i "openoffice.org" | cut -c 3-30 | xargs
[12:21] <IdleOne> rangans, no it wont
[12:21] <Slart> jussi01: I don't think it'll remove documents or changed files though.. you'll probably have to do that yourself
[12:22] <rangans> IdleOne: thanks I am marking for removal now lets see how it goes
[12:22] <sebrock> anyone at all using gDesklets?
[12:22] <Slart> sebrock: I have once or twice, why?
[12:22] <jussi01> unop: where does that command start? with - or dpkg?
[12:23] <unop> jussi01,  with dpkg :)
[12:23] <sebrock> Slart, well I use the starterbar but it sits on top of every other program
[12:23] <jussi01> unop: Thanks :D
[12:24] <sebrock> Slart, I want it to just be on the desktop
[12:24] <cyclops> Anyone at all?
[12:24] <Slart> sebrock: hmm.. I'll have a look.. brb
[12:24] <jussi01> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5901/
[12:24] <phatrabbit> hi this is abit off topic but whats the command to open a new server in xchat
[12:25] <unop> jussi01,  what you could do is -- dpkg -l | grep -i "openoffice.org" | cut -c 3-30 > toremove.txt  -- and then edit the toremove.txt to make your changes -- and then run - sudo aptitude purge $(cat toremove.txt)
[12:25] <phatrabbit> actually dont worry i got it
[12:25] <Slart> sebrock: hmm.. mine stays on the desktop.. didn't find any settings for it either
[12:26] <Tode_I> Woot
[12:26] <unop> jussi01,  well, from what you have shown me, it looks like you can remove those packages
[12:26] <jussi01> unop: Im not really sure wha I want to remove except all of openoffice
[12:26] <Tode_I> Did that xorg reconfigure thingy again, and it's actually got an option to disable the framebuffer thingy
[12:26] <unop> jussi01,  the first command i gave you should suffice then :)
[12:27] <Tode_I> Now I can go to bed feeling like I accomplished something. |>
[12:27] <jussi01> unop: excellent thanks a lot - Ill let you know how things go
[12:27] <sebrock> Slart, I know... could you check the source by rightclicking it
[12:27] <sebrock> Slart, and then tell me if you have this: <display anchor="center" window-flags="below, sticky"
[12:28] <phatrabbit> !envy
[12:28] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[12:29] <muuhDBX> oficial drivers arr non free
[12:29] <ndlovu> Tode_I, nice!
[12:29] <phatrabbit> non free ?
[12:29] <muuhDBX> yes
[12:29] <Slart> sebrock: hmm.. here it is.. look for yourself http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5902/ =)
[12:29] <phatrabbit> under the GPL
[12:29] <muuhDBX> only open source grafic driver are supported in ubuntu
[12:30] <jussi01> unop: small problem... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5903/
[12:30] <IdleOne> phatrabbit, free to use non free to redistribute
[12:30] <phatrabbit> oh i c
[12:30] <phatrabbit> damm
[12:30] <sebrock> tnx
[12:30] <phatrabbit> i just used envy to install my new nvidia drivers
[12:30] <Slart> yw
[12:31] <phatrabbit> and ubuntu boots and the screem goes into sleep mode
[12:31] <phatrabbit> !fixres
[12:31] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:31] <unop> jussi01,  can you !pastebin this - dpkg -l | grep -i "openoffice.org"
[12:31] <phatrabbit> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:32] <phatrabbit> oops
[12:32] <jussi01> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5904/
[12:34] <jay> how can i make kiba-dock items always stay in place when the return intstead of hanging outside... if u kno what I mean. They don't make one line, other icons just hang off
[12:34] <phatrabbit> when on command line
[12:34] <phatrabbit> how do i copy the text
[12:34] <Guest_649>  hi how can i pass a message using wall or write to some ther computers tty?
[12:35] <unop> jussi01,  this should do then - sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i "openoffice.org" | cut -c 3-40 | xargs)
[12:35] <jussi01> phatrabbit: ctrl-shift-c paste ctrl-shift-v
[12:35] <phatrabbit> cheers
[12:36] <jussi01> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5905/
[12:36] <jussi01> almost
[12:36] <jussi01> should I accept that solution?
[12:37] <Guest_649> how can i pass a message to some other computers tty? is it possible?
[12:37] <unop> jussi01,  yea, you can accept the solution
[12:37] <jussi01> ok thanks!!
[12:38] <phatrabbit> is it ctrl+shift+backspace to restart xserver
[12:38] <hdxx> yes
[12:38] <jussi01> unop: will an apt-get auto-remove get rid of any leftovers?
[12:38] <unop> jussi01,  only thing tho, the next time you use apt to install/remove something, you might be warned of these broken packages
[12:39] <phatrabbit> ctrl+shift+backspace wont work
[12:39] <Guest_649> how can i pass a message to some other computers tty? is it possible?
[12:39] <unop> jussi01,  errm, i dont think so, i dont like these "auto" commands, because then i am not in control :d
[12:39] <jussi01> hehe...ok
[12:39] <unop> phatrabbit,  ctrl+alt... :)
[12:39] <hdxx> ctrl+alt++backsapce
[12:39] <gary> If, for example, I want the latest release of a particular program, but it is not avaailable on the stable apt list, is it possible to download that one package from a different list, say the testing version, so that I can have the latest release of it?
[12:39] <unop> Guest_649,  man wall
[12:40] <jussi01> gary: yes
[12:40] <unop> gary,  not advisable
[12:40] <unop> gary,  it'll probably wreck your install
[12:40] <phatrabbit> ok envy does not work so well
[12:40] <gary> Ah, thanks guys, I'll avoid doing that and just be patient and wait :-)
[12:41] <Guest_649> unop, but is it possible to send to some other computers tty which has a different ip?
[12:41] <jussi01> unop: thanks a million mate - everything seems fine!! cheers!!
[12:41] <unop> Guest_649,  errm, i havent come across something like that before .. you hacking someone? :)
[12:41] <unop> jussi01,  you sound english :d yw :)
[12:42] <phatrabbit> lol
[12:42] <jussi01> unop: not quite - youll have to go alot futher south... to god's own country
[12:43] <unop> jussi01,  errm, ok, south africa? :>
[12:43] <Guest_649> unop, no i just wanted to send a message to some other computers tty having a different ip..
[12:43] <royel> unop: he's an aussie..
[12:44] <unop> royel,  ahh, i shoulda done a whois .. :)
[12:44] <jussi01> Unop: royel is spot on... though im living near the arctic circle now...brrr
[12:45] <unop> jussi01,  i thought it was summer there now?
[12:45] <phatrabbit> unop, what does restricted modules mean when downloading NVIDIA drivers
[12:45] <unop> phatrabbit,  those modules are non-free drivers, kernel modules, etc
[12:45] <royel> !restricted | phatrabbit
[12:45] <phatrabbit> and where does apt-get save the packages to on my computer
[12:45] <ubotu> phatrabbit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <jussi01> unop: as just mention Im near the ARCTIC circle now.... (ie finland...:P)
[12:46] <unop> jussi01,  ahh shucks, i'm not reaing well , i thought i read antarctic :p
[12:46] <unop> reading*
[12:47] <hdxx> does anyone know why my cd-rom, doesn't detect cd
[12:47] <jussi01> unop: Lol...btw are you forum staff by any chance?
[12:47] <unop> jussi01,  but brr indeed, we had 2 days of snow last week and we cant even hack it, i can imagine what it's like for you
[12:48] <phatrabbit> unop, i used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:48] <jussi01> unop: you i the uk?
[12:48] <unop> jussi01,  errm no, I am in no way affiliated with ubuntu (yet?) :p
[12:48] <phatrabbit> and my computer keeps beeping
[12:48] <rickympl> phatrabbit, normally apt-get saves the debs to /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:48] <jussi01> heheh
[12:48] <unop> jussi01,  indeed
[12:48] <phatrabbit> the little speaker off my motherboard wont stop beeping
[12:48] <phatrabbit> kinda freaking out :P
[12:49] <phatrabbit> thanks rickympl
[12:49] <unop> phatrabbit,  yea, the nvidia-glx package depends on l-r-m -- nothing to be worried about :)
[12:49] <phatrabbit> oh phew!
[12:49] <royel> phatrabbit: try this instead for Nvidia drivers.. you won't be dissappointed http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[12:50] <phatrabbit> well i tried using python script envy and that screwed my drivers
[12:50] <Ourson> bonjour
[12:50] <Ourson> j'ai un soucis avec un dd sata
[12:50] <jussi01> unop: do you know how to change the color the windows icon flashes on the panel?
[12:51] <IdleOne> !fr | Ourson Bonjour!
[12:51] <ubotu> Ourson Bonjour!: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:51] <phatrabbit> royel, after it downloaded the new drivers and installed and backed up my old config and xserver restarted it my monitor went into sleep mode and wouldnt come out
[12:52] <unop> jussi01,  ahh no unfortunately, i dont use gnome
[12:52] <unop> jussi01,  it's probably something you can change from within the gconf-editor (registry?) tho
[12:53] <jussi01> unop: yeah, had a look there, couldnt find it. I know its in the theme somewhere - but I have absolutley no idea about playing with theme stuff
[12:54] <blackest> tode_I you still got problems ?
[12:54] <jussi01> unop: anyays thanks again - Im off to have some fun
[12:54] <jussi01> ;)
[12:54] <unop> jussi01,  have fun :)
[12:54] <unop> jussi01,  and yw :)
[12:57] <phatrabbit> does ubuntu network my pc's automatically
[12:57] <phatrabbit> can i transfer stuff using the IP
[12:57] <sacater> hello again all, in ubuntu, if i save something to a floppy disk, why does it not write immiediatly
[12:58] <sacater> it waits a min
[12:58] <sacater> and then write
[12:58] <sacater> z
[12:58] <jay> where can i get a deb package for kbfx?
[12:59] <hdxx> sudo apt-cache search kbfx
[01:00] <plaguez> Test
[01:00] <royel_> phatrabbit: you probably will need samba, are you trying to connect to window machines or other linux boxes?
[01:01] <blackest> any tvcard experts available ?
[01:01] <Daverocks> !anyone | blackest
[01:01] <ubotu> blackest: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:02] <mackinac> sometimes only a certified expert will do
[01:03] <mattycoze> hay does anyone know where to fix gaim issues?
[01:03] <mattycoze> with Ubuntu
[01:04] <bokey> mattycoze, what's the problem ?
[01:04] <michaelpo> hello.... i cannot watch vcd... i can watch dvd... what do I need to do? before i did a reinstallation i could watch both dvd and vcd after i installed some package... i could not find the website that teach me how to do it now... please help...
[01:04] <mattycoze> gaim won't connect to my msn account, it's a gaim issue that's all
[01:04] <mattycoze> d.w i've found thier chatroom
[01:05] <royel_> michaelpo: what media player are you using?
[01:05] <CheshireViking> mattycoze, i think there's problems with msn today, a number of my contacts can't get online to msn
[01:05] <mattycoze> O'Rly?
[01:05] <blackest> ok I need some help configuring saa1734 driver
[01:06] <hdxx> yes, hotmail have problems
[01:06] <michaelpo> royel i'm using mplayer and totem
[01:06] <royel_> michaelpo: try using VLC or Xine, I think that might be the problem.
[01:06] <mackinac> michaelpo, ??? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ???
[01:07] <royel_> michaelpo: this site might be of some use to you as well. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:07] <michaelpo> vlc? xine? ok i'll try that....
[01:07] <mackinac> vlc rocks
[01:07] <michaelpo> royel i've already done the restrictedformats thingy
[01:07] <royel_> michaelpo: check the above link as well..
[01:08] <royel_> mackinac: yes it does
[01:09] <mackinac> except for h264 here for some reason :(
[01:09] <mackinac> for * with
[01:09] <bokey> what's epson stylus cx 3900's status in dapper ?
[01:11] <bokey> anyone here knows if it works ?
[01:11] <michaelpo> downloading vlc now...
[01:12] <ndlovu> I'm having some weird audio recording problems. my mic works fine in windows, and occasionally works in ubuntu. when I push the record button (on sound recorder for example), the audio capture toggle is automatically muted on the volume control. any ideas why?
[01:14] <ndlovu> lspci output: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[01:16] <Rothbuntu> ding dong
[01:16] <Rothbuntu> how do i mount a .bin file and extract the goodness within
[01:16] <rexy> bchunk it to an iso
[01:16] <rexy> and then mount it
[01:16] <rexy> cant mount bins
[01:16] <rexy> mplayer can play em directly though
[01:17] <Rothbuntu> mmmm
[01:17] <rexy> if it's a vid cd anyway
[01:17] <kraut> moin
[01:17] <Rothbuntu> its vid indeed
[01:18] <Faithful> How can install a 2.6.20 kernel in edgy?
[01:18] <mneptok> Faithful: why?
[01:18] <jattks> uh, can i say something?
[01:18] <jattks> linux sucks ass man :s
[01:18] <Rothbuntu> oh wow
[01:18] <jattks> this is so shit this whole ufucktoo thing :S
[01:18] <Rothbuntu> i did not know that
[01:19] <rexy> quick bring out the tar and feathers \o/
[01:19] <Faithful> mneptok: hardware support... why else?
[01:19] <Rothbuntu> oh lawd ive been tricked
[01:19] <Rothbuntu> VISTA SAVE ME
[01:20] <johns^> pff, ofcourse linux sux
[01:20] <mattycoze> someone kick jattks
[01:20] <johns^> every os sux
[01:20] <johns^> linux sux less
[01:21] <Kaso> Hi, i seem to have lost the ability to type 'x' whats going on?
[01:21] <mneptok> Faithful: for what?
[01:21] <niyi> does anyone know where you can get hold of software to connect phones on linux
[01:21] <michaelpo> vlc did not work... it crashed when first loading vcd content..
[01:22] <rexy> niyi
[01:22] <rexy> i'm guessing here
[01:22] <Faithful> mneptok: you are not answering the question... if you don't know don't say anything.
[01:22] <rexy> but i think you mean to connect your nokia via bluetooth/cable and do "stuff"?
[01:22] <niyi> uh huh
[01:22] <niyi> but not a nokia
[01:23] <niyi> but you get the idea
[01:23] <rexy> well there's a program for it
[01:23] <rexy> it's for nokia's but i guess it'll work
[01:23] <niyi> okay
[01:23] <rexy> if only i could remember the name
[01:23] <mattycoze> johns what's wrong with linux?
[01:23] <Faithful> niyi: depends what you mean when you say you wan't to connect the phone...
[01:23] <rexy> gnokia?
[01:23] <mattycoze> give us your educated opinion
[01:23] <Faithful> synchronize ???
[01:23] <rexy> grokia
[01:23] <rexy> something like that
[01:24] <niyi> uh huh
[01:24] <mneptok> Faithful: suit yourself.
[01:24] <Kaso> The 'Keyboar Shortcuts' program seems to have swallowe my 'd' an 'x' keys
[01:24] <IdleOne> Kaso, how did you manage to type the d and x in the last sentence?
[01:24] <Kaso> copy an pasting of course
[01:24] <rexy> gnokii
[01:25] <rexy> that's it
[01:25] <Faithful> mneptok: well you didn't really help me... just made it seem as if I had to gain your permission to put a 2.6.20 kernel on my machine
[01:26] <Pici> niyi: This may also help you:
[01:26] <Pici> !info bitpim
[01:26] <ubotu> bitpim: utility to communicate with many CDMA phones. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.04.dfsg.1-1 (edgy), package size 3884 kB, installed size 12952 kB
[01:27] <mneptok> Faithful: seeing that i work for the company behind Ubuntu in a senior support role, my reticence in having users apply custom built kernels to their machines is understandable.
[01:28] <JONES3700> is anyone running continuum w/ wine
[01:28] <Faithful> mneptok: So round about you are saying that there is not an ubuntu edgy 2.6.20 linux-image
[01:29] <johns^> mattycoze: ass I said, linux sux *less*
[01:29] <johns^> less than that *other* os anyway :)
[01:29] <Faithful> mneptok: 2.6.17 is too old for my sata controller.
[01:29] <mbarzegar> hi
[01:29] <mneptok> Faithful: not in a packaged form, no.
[01:29] <mattycoze> johns, yeah - implying it sucks to a degree
[01:29] <mattycoze> ... so tell me how much it sucks?
[01:29] <mneptok> Faithful: see if Feisty has your driver.
[01:29] <johns^> not much
[01:30] <mbarzegar> I got a question about glibc installation
[01:30] <Pici> Faithful: I believe, mneptok correct me if I'm wrong, but 2.6.20 is in / will be in  Fiesty
[01:30] <johns^> otherwise I wouldn't have been using it as a primary os for the last 10 years
[01:30] <kuma_> when i plug my USB thumb drive the OS won't mount it, I have to sudo mount it to make it work. This works for me, but my sister don't know how to do it. How can I make the mounting can be done by any user?
[01:30] <mbarzegar> can any1 help me ?
[01:30] <mneptok> Pici: last i knew Feisty was using 2.6.19
[01:30] <mattycoze> indeed
[01:31] <johns^> mattycoze: but nothing is perfect, so eventually you will find something that makes you go 'that really s*cks'
[01:31] <PeaceLover> heya all
[01:31] <mbarzegar> can any1 help me ?
[01:31] <mbarzegar> I got a question about glibc installation
[01:32] <Dimensions> Hiya .... how do we mount a usb pen drive ... i just formatted it ...as sda1 vfat and sda2 ext3 ... it appears as /dev/sda im installing linux on it ... when i do mount /dev/sda /media/foo it says u must specify the file system type ????
[01:32] <johns^> !ask
[01:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:32] <royel_> !any | mbarzegar
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about any - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <royel_> !anyone | mbarzegar
[01:32] <ubotu> mbarzegar: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:32] <mattycoze> johns, mmm
[01:32] <mbarzegar> I got a question about glibc installation
[01:32] <mbarzegar> can any1 help me ?
[01:32] <Pici> Then ask it
[01:32] <IdleOne> mbarzegar, what is the question?
[01:33] <mbarzegar> it says it has to be installaed in a seperate build directory
[01:33] <mbarzegar> i dont understand it
[01:33] <johns^> mbarzegar: you didn't just apt-get it?
[01:33] <mbarzegar> GNU libc cannot be compiled in the source directory.  You must build it
[01:33] <mbarzegar> in a separate build directory.  For example, if you have unpacked the
[01:33] <mbarzegar> glibc sources in `/src/gnu/glibc-2.4', create a directory
[01:33] <mbarzegar> `/src/gnu/glibc-build' to put the object files in.  This allows
[01:33] <mbarzegar> removing the whole build directory in case an error occurs
[01:35] <mbarzegar> i got the glibc-2.5
[01:35] <johns^> why build it yourself?
[01:35] <mbarzegar> please some1 help me
[01:35] <mbarzegar> it's so urgent
[01:36] <mbarzegar> i didnt biuld it my self
[01:36] <mbarzegar> this text was the part of the readme install file
[01:37] <furryballs> Could someone mount a root partition from the livecd and chroot then uninstall something? Other than the mounting how would this be done?
[01:37] <johns^> mbarzegar: from the top... what have you done allready? what are you trying to install
[01:37] <mbarzegar> johns
[01:37] <mbarzegar> I downloaded the glibc
[01:37] <johns^> furryballs: your cdrom is readonly
[01:37] <johns^> mbarzegar: a tar.gz I guess?
[01:38] <mbarzegar> then i typed ./configure
[01:38] <Pici> mbarzegar: Any particular reason you want to compile it from souce?
[01:38] <johns^> then again: what Pici said
[01:38] <furryballs> johns^: Chroot woudl use the partition as the root directory, or should. I have never done this. I have on gentoo I think tho. Isn't it possible?
[01:38] <mbarzegar> i have this error : configure: error: you must configure in a separate build directory
[01:39] <IdleOne> mbarzegar, DO YOU WANT HELP OR NOT?
[01:39] <IdleOne> mbarzegar, johns^ and Pici have both asked why you qwant to compile it yourself?
[01:39] <michaelpo> i've also just installed quake... where is the icon to start quake?
[01:39] <mbarzegar> i have ubuntu 5.10 , when i want to install any kind of packages like GTK+ .. I get the error that the c compiler is not installed
[01:40] <mbarzegar> so i thought i have to install GCC or Glibc , myself
[01:40] <Pici> mbarzegar: just install build-essential
[01:40] <IdleOne> mbarzegar, that is because you need to install a package called build-essential sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:40] <Pici> mbarzegar: its a metapackage that includes all the things you need to compile things
[01:40] <IdleOne> you probably need to enable universe and multiverse also
[01:40] <johns^> mbarzegar: apt-get install build-essential
[01:40] <mbarzegar> where can i get it ?
[01:41] <johns^> ah, too late
[01:41] <IdleOne> !universe | mbarzegar enable universe and multiverse
[01:41] <ubotu> mbarzegar enable universe and multiverse: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:42] <mbarzegar> tanx
[01:42] <mbarzegar> i go check it
[01:42] <arunkumaran> Hello Room
[01:42] <Pici> !hi
[01:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:43] <arunkumaran> i have just now installed 6.10 and find it very user-friendly
[01:43] <johns^> arunkumaran: It is
[01:43] <arunkumaran> but wat is the major diff b/w ubuntu and Debian?
[01:43] <Shaffox> can i rip mp3 from my ipod ? and then convert them?
[01:43] <mattycoze> hay when does the next release of ubuntu come out?
[01:43] <Pici> !fiesty | mattycoze
[01:43] <ubotu> mattycoze: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <johns^> mattycoze: 7.04
[01:43] <IdleOne> !release
[01:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[01:43] <royel_> hey guys, why when I take desktop screenshots, if I have a video playing (dvd) the video player screen shows up blank in the screenshot?
[01:44] <mattycoze> ahh, will that include the new kernel?
[01:44] <Rothbuntu> not if its played in vlc the vid comes out
[01:44] <michaelpo> i typed quake2... Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[01:44] <Pici> arunkumaran: read here; http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[01:44] <arunkumaran> @royel..i think u have to pause the video
[01:44] <Boknoy> !hi
[01:44] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:44] <arunkumaran> @Pici..thanks....
[01:44] <berent> can anyone tell me how to use kopete for yahoo room list
[01:44] <berent> can anyone tell me how to use kopete for yahoo room list
[01:44] <IdleOne> dont think that a screenshot can grab moving video
[01:45] <berent> can anyone tell me how to use kopete for yahoo room list
[01:45] <arunkumaran> wats de best mp3 player for ubuntu...is the a real player for ubuntu?
[01:45] <Pici> !repeat > berent
[01:45] <royel_> arunkumaran: lol, so simple .. ty
[01:45] <IdleOne> berent, noone has answered in the past 15 seconds ask again!!!
[01:45] <Pici> IdleOne: Dont encourage them :p
[01:45] <arunkumaran> @royel..i tried it in windows and had the same trouble....
[01:45] <IdleOne> Pici, didnt you feel the sarcasm :)
[01:45] <berent> :-D
[01:45] <Pici> IdleOne:  didnt you see my :p
[01:46] <IdleOne> oh :P yeah lol
[01:46] <IdleOne> :PPP
[01:46] <berent> !patience
[01:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:46] <Shaffox> can i rip mp3s from my ipod ? and then convert them ?
[01:46] <samboo> im using ubuntu live dvd atm, could someone quickly describe how i can mount a ntfs drive so i can access data from it?
[01:47] <IdleOne> samboo, nothing quick about ntfs
[01:47] <johns^> samboo: mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/hda1 /mnt/mountpoint
[01:47] <IdleOne> !ntfs
[01:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:47] <berent> how to know if my sound card  and device are working
[01:47] <arunkumaran> @berent ...try playing a .wav file
[01:47] <samboo> thanks johns^, i'll give it a bash
[01:47] <Pici> arunkumaran: There kinda is a real player for linux, its called Helix, its based off of the Real Player code
[01:47] <berent> .wav > /dev/dsp -> no sound
[01:48] <Shaffox> never mind, i have  found it myself
[01:48] <arunkumaran> @Pici..thanks
[01:48] <arunkumaran> wats de best mp3 player for ubuntu...real?
[01:48] <Pici> !best
[01:48] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:48] <Rothbuntu> i use vlc for everything but im a lazy ass
[01:49] <arunkumaran> something thats simple like winamp?..xmms?
[01:49] <Pici> arunkumaran: There are a number of mp3 players, foobar, beep-media-player, xmms, just to name a few
[01:49] <todd22> whats the kernel module for the realtek 8185 called?
[01:49] <m0xie__> Try xmms.
[01:49] <berent> my device manager doesnt open
[01:49] <johns^> arunkumaran: xmms indeed. Or amarok
[01:49] <johns^> or beep
[01:49] <mackinac> foobar?
[01:49] <berent> and try to reinstall it doesnt
[01:49] <furryballs> Is there a way to uninstall kubuntu-desktop from a partition using a livecd?
[01:49] <berent> anyone?
[01:49] <johns^> furryballs: no
[01:49] <arunkumaran> i installed xmms using apt-get...there seems to be a trouble...the buttons in the dialog boxes are devoid of text...
[01:49] <xstasi> hi
[01:50] <xstasi> since i can't boot ubuntu cd, can i install ubuntu from my running debian?
[01:50] <xstasi> like with debootstrap or something
[01:50] <johns^> xstasi: you can netboot
[01:50] <xstasi> is there a howto?
[01:50] <xstasi> how?
[01:50] <IdleOne> !install
[01:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:50] <xstasi> from the ubuntu desktop cd?
[01:50] <mattycoze> does anyone how to flush dns on linux?
[01:50] <berent> when i try to open device manager a bug buddy opens throwing a core
[01:50] <furryballs> xstasi: Yes. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362112
[01:51] <berent> whats the remedy
[01:51] <furryballs> xstasi:*
[01:51] <xstasi> furryballs, there doesn't seem to be useful info in that thread..
[01:52] <IdleOne> xstasi, look at the links ubotu gave up there you will find the info you need
[01:52] <berent> no one knows anytthing today why
[01:53] <xstasi> IdleOne, the first link seems to have old doc.. the others are useless to me
[01:53] <johns^> xstasi: there is a debian howto for installing through a network
[01:54] <xstasi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix
[01:54] <xstasi> does this fit to edgy too?
[01:54] <IdleOne> xstasi, google ubuntu debian install. iirc there is a way to go from your debian install to ubuntu but I dont remember how or ever did it
[01:54] <johns^> but use the ubuntu files 'linux' and initrd.gz
[01:54] <xstasi> IdleOne, i don't want to shapeshift my debian to ubuntu, instead i want to install ubuntu on another partition, from this debian
[01:55] <Dermir> hi all. Can anyone help me? I have ms analisys servises. Ia there any analog on ubuntu?
[01:55] <johns^> xstasi: netboot, then add a grub entry so it boots mentioned setup files and install is on it's way as usual
[01:55] <johns^> its easy
[01:55] <xstasi> the live cd won't run since i have a radeon 9550, and both radeon and vesa hang the computer
[01:55] <xstasi> johns^, i only have a single computer.. can i netboot?
[01:55] <samboo> ive mounted a drive on ubuntu live, could someone answer my stupidly frustrating quetion of "how i can access it using ubuntus file browser" ?
[01:56] <kiwii> I did modprobe -r usbhid, and my keyboard and mose went off :) how can i load this again ? :D ssh and telnet to the machine dont work
[01:56] <royel_> samboo: where did you mount it?
[01:56] <xstasi> the best thing, i think, would be to start ubiquity on debian..
[01:56] <samboo> ./mnt/wintemp
[01:56] <varkatope> has anybody here experiences with the new via epia boards EX10000EG and/or EX150000EG, especially the video acceleration for mpeg 2/4 wmv9??
[01:56] <samboo> i can access it doing "sudo xterm" and navigating in the terminal
[01:56] <michaelpo> i did a right click property in synaptic for quake2... lots of different directory... where is the quake2.exe file?
[01:56] <samboo> im a novice, dont know what else to do
[01:57] <samboo> dont know how to give enough privalges to the live cd to let me navigate to it in the gui
[01:57] <royel_> samboo: open file manager an on the view tab, click to show hidden files (CTRL+H) then you should find it
[01:57] <skar> hi, i've a asus p5b and install hangs as the jmicron ide chipset driver is not there yet in the cd
[01:58] <skar> is there a way to pass the generic ide driver option to the boot cd kernel? fedora seems to have an option for this that works in this motherboard
[01:58] <samboo> sorry royel, i can already see it now ive mounted it
[01:58] <samboo> i just dont have permission to access it
[01:58] <kuma_> when i plug my USB thumb drive the OS won't mount it, I have to sudo mount it to make it work. This works for me, but my sister don't know how to do it. How can I make the mounting can be done by any user?
[01:58] <samboo> i DO have permission if i run "sudo xterm" and use the terminal to navigate to it
[01:58] <NoEvidenZ> how does everyone make their terminals transparent and stuff?
[01:59] <royel_> samboo: # sudo chmod 777 ./mnt/wintmp
[01:59] <johns^> xstasi: ttp://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-boot-drive-files
[01:59] <johns^> usefull unfo
[01:59] <johns^> info
[01:59] <xstasi> woody? floppy?
[01:59] <royel_> samboo: # sudo chown youruser:youruser ./mnt/wintmp
[01:59] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, I dont but goto Edit in terminal windows and then click profiles
[01:59] <samboo> brilliant royel, thanks a lot
[02:00] <johns^> xstasi: as I said, use the ubuntu files and the idea is the same
[02:00] <varkatope> @ NoEvidenZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[02:00] <xstasi> johns^, i'm right now trying to debootstrap from here
[02:00] <xstasi> looks like a better idea..
[02:00] <johns^> xstasi: you put them somewhere and tell grub or lilo to boot those files
[02:00] <NoEvidenZ> IdleOne: I worship you. You're always the one who answers my questions.
[02:00] <xstasi> i don't see how this can solve..
[02:00] <xstasi> ok, i boot another kernel/initrd, and with that?
[02:01] <johns^> xstasi: it's like a tftp boot. I use that to install fedora/debian/ubuntu on desktop pc's
[02:01] <Dermir>      Is there any analog of MS analisys services  on ubuntu?
[02:01] <xstasi> johns^, ok, but my cd is ok. it's xorg that won't start because of the unsupported video card
[02:01] <xstasi> so no matter which kernel/root i run from, X won't start
[02:01] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, johns^ also answered your question but he went the advanced beryl is the world and we all have 3d and stuff :) wich is real cool but I dont and assumed you meant Terminal as in terminal shell
[02:01] <xstasi> so no ubiquity
[02:02] <unop> xstasi,  have you tried using "X -configure" to create a new xorg.conf ?
[02:02] <michaelpo> which quake2 in terminal gives /usr/games/quake2 but there is no pics/colormap.pcx directory
[02:02] <IdleOne> err sorry not johns^ it was varkatope
[02:02] <xstasi> unop, i would configure X with vim, if only i could start the system.
[02:03] <xstasi> unfortunately, i wasn't able to find a parameter to tell ubuntu not to boot X automatically
[02:03] <varkatope> np, i maybe it was a translationmistake , i jsut saw "transparent window" ^^
[02:03] <IdleOne> varkatope, :)
[02:03] <unop> xstasi,  CTRL+ALT+f1  not work?
[02:03] <xstasi> no
[02:03] <johns^> ctrl-alt-backspace?
[02:03] <xstasi> with my ati radeon 9550, both "radeon" and "vesa" drivers completely hang the system
[02:04] <xstasi> i can't even saK
[02:04] <johns^> ow
[02:04] <johns^> bummer
[02:04] <xstasi> nor kIll
[02:04] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> err how do i know with what permissions my NTFS drivers are munte?
[02:04] <xstasi> from sysrq
[02:04] <xstasi> i only could reBoot
[02:04] <unop> xstasi,  boot into single user mode and remove the link  /etc/rc2.d/?dm  that should stop X from starting
[02:04] <xstasi> and then telinit 2?
[02:04] <derder> im looking for an easy to use ftp client for the console
[02:04] <johns^> derder: ncftp
[02:05] <xstasi> ncftp ftw
[02:05] <unop> xstasi,  i'm not so sure now that upstart has replaced sysvinit on ubuntu -- ought to work tho
[02:05] <varkatope> ncftp
[02:05] <xstasi> mh...
[02:05] <varkatope> opps
[02:05] <derder> will try it
[02:05] <xstasi> what about the debootstrap?
[02:05] <xstasi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix
[02:05] <xstasi> isn't this easier?
[02:05] <derder> and a tool to burn dvds in console
[02:05] <johns^> xstasi: and there is a manual :)
[02:05] <xstasi> derder, growisofs
[02:05] <unop> xstasi, yep, that works too -- but it's longer IMO
[02:06] <xstasi> with debootstrap
[02:06] <unop> xstasi,  init/telinit should work -- otherwise just issue -- shutdown -r now :)
[02:06] <xstasi> do i get a "stock" ubuntu?
[02:06] <varkatope> @derder: data or video?
[02:06] <derder> data
[02:06] <xstasi> unop, and i get the gdm link again.. :)
[02:06] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> anyone?
[02:06] <unop> xstasi,  once you have finished business with xorg.conf you can use update-rc.d to start your dm
[02:07] <unop> xstasi,  i mean enable the dm in runlevel 2
[02:07] <xstasi> i don't think gdm will start anyway
[02:07] <varkatope> @derder: mkisofs, cdrecord should do the job
[02:07] <xstasi> because i need fglrx
[02:07] <xstasi> or no X at all
[02:07] <xstasi> :(
[02:07] <royel_> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: ls -l /dir/name
[02:07] <xstasi> this is a badass video card, indeed
[02:08] <unop> xstasi,  right, its not starting .. thats the problem, you have to stop it from starting .. and thats the point to all of this :)
[02:08] <xstasi> unop, and from there, how do i install without X?
[02:08] <NoEvidenZ> IdleOne: Yeah, I've tried beryl. Worked well, and I really liked it when I was running Feisty on my amd64, but this current computer is using onboard graphics. Couldn't handle Beryl. I already tried.
[02:08] <michaelpo> \nevermind... no need to try quake2... try something else...
[02:08] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> royel_ ,i want to know the permissions of the partitions.. isnt that for linkin?
[02:09] <royel_> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: try it an see if it doesn't give you the info you looking for
[02:09] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> royel_ ok
[02:09] <varkatope> @NoEvidenZ: i didn't try so far on onboard graphics, but as far as i read, its difficult or impossible, depends on the chipset used
[02:09] <unop> xstasi,  do you need X to get a computer working? :p  use the command line :)
[02:10] <IdleOne> NoEvidenZ, well I hope I answred your question
[02:10] <xstasi> unop, well, to install ubuntu... yes
[02:10] <xstasi> :)
[02:10] <xstasi> from the cd i mean
[02:10] <unop> xstasi,  dude, what are you trying to do? edit xorg.conf or install ubuntu?
[02:10] <xstasi> ...install ubuntu
[02:10] <xstasi> i don't care how
[02:10] <xstasi> eheh
[02:10] <xstasi> :P
[02:10] <michaelpo> is there another good fps that i can try in linux?
[02:10] <unop> xstasi,  and you trying the live CD now?
[02:10] <xstasi> but i don't want to download and burn the alternate
[02:11] <johns^> michaelpo: enemy territory
[02:11] <xstasi> no, i'm from my installed debian
[02:11] <xstasi> michaelpo, openarena
[02:11] <unop> xstasi,  well, i dont think you have an alternative option than to get the alternate CD
[02:11] <xstasi> michaelpo, sauerbraten
[02:11] <berent> when i boot my Loading drivers option fails what to do?
[02:11] <berent> when i boot my Loading drivers option fails what to do?
[02:11] <varkatope> @michaelpo, ut, ut2k4, quake...
[02:11] <xstasi> unop, i hope this debootstrap thing works...
[02:11] <unop> xstasi,  or use a minimal or netinstall CD and build on from there
[02:11] <dooglus>  xstasi: you can install ubuntu from inside debian using apt-get
[02:11] <xstasi> dooglus, from inside debian?
[02:11] <unop> xstasi,  knopiix/debian
[02:11] <dooglus> xstasi: from inside debian
[02:12] <dooglus> xstasi: see 'debootstrap'
[02:12] <xstasi> i am debootstrapping right now
[02:12] <unop> xstasi,  knoppix is pretty much debian eh :)
[02:12] <xstasi> and that's ok
[02:12] <cma> xstasi: why not just use deb?
[02:12] <xstasi> cma, do your business, and i do mine.. :)
[02:12] <Pici> He doesnt want to replace his current debian isntall
[02:12] <dooglus> xstasi: I use debian now instead of ubuntu, and I installed debian from inside ubuntu using debootstrap
[02:12] <pluffsy> I don't know if this is OT, but I'm trying to pass a file path as a parameter to a bash script and then my bash script executes lpr with that file. But if there is a space in the path lpr cuts the string at the first space. I've tried to replace the spaces with '\ ' and so on but I can't get it to work. If I send a constant string like 'file path/foo/foo' to lpr it works fine but not my '/base path/foo/foo/'$1. Any ideas what I shall do?
[02:12] <berent> when i boot my Loading drivers option fails what to do?
[02:12] <xstasi> yeah ok
[02:12] <xstasi> i have a debian
[02:12] <xstasi> and an empty partition
[02:12] <xstasi> on which i want to install ubuntu
[02:12] <xstasi> right?
[02:12] <dooglus> right
[02:12] <xstasi> ok
[02:13] <NoEvidenZ> IdleOne: Yes, you did. Thank you muchly. =] 
[02:13] <IdleOne> np
[02:13] <xstasi> from debian, i am debootstrapping into the empty partition
[02:13] <dooglus> use debootstrap to install ubuntu onto the empty partition
[02:13] <berent> when i boot dapper,while booting  Loading drivers option fails what to do?
[02:13] <dooglus> right
[02:13] <xstasi> and i just finished
[02:13] <xstasi> ok
[02:13] <xstasi> now, all that i want
[02:13] <xstasi> is a "stock" ubuntu
[02:13] <xstasi> like as i installed from teh cd
[02:13] <xstasi> s/teh/the/
[02:13] <varkatope> @xstasi, so why cant u just boot from alternate install cd and install ubuntu that way?
[02:13] <michaelpo> johns^: : i've only found enemylines... not the same?
[02:13] <IdleOne> berent, do a fresh install you seem to have broken your system
[02:13] <xstasi> varkatope, that would take much time to download, and a cd to burn
[02:13] <[GuS] > Guys... hi!!!.. quick  question.. how could i set my system to yuse gcc-4.0 instead of gcc-4.1?
[02:13] <johns^> michaelpo:
[02:13] <dooglus> varkatope: he doesn't have the alternate install cd
[02:13] <berent> IdleOne :no i have lots installed
[02:14] <johns^> michaelpo: no. try wolfenstein et
[02:14] <berent> cant lose them
[02:14] <dooglus> xstasi: so what's the problem?
[02:14] <xstasi> now, i have ubuntu-minimal installed on the (not so) empty partition
[02:14] <xstasi> i want this installation to be "stock"
[02:14] <unop> pluffsy,  errm - function parse () { echo "[$@] "; };  parse "foo bar";
[02:14] <dooglus> xstasi: install 'ubuntu-desktop'
[02:14] <johns^> xstasi: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <xstasi> oh
[02:14] <dooglus> xstasi: that's the stock install
[02:14] <xstasi> is that all?
[02:14] <michaelpo> johns^: wolfenstein? my pc only p4 2ghz... ati radeon 7500 mobility... 32mb video ram...
[02:14] <xstasi> venom:~/debootstrap-0.3.3.1ubuntu1# chroot /mnt/
[02:14] <xstasi> root@venom:/# apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:15] <xstasi> is this enough?
[02:15] <dooglus> xstasi: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package that installs everything else.  you'll need a kernel too, of course
[02:15] <xstasi> oh yeah
[02:15] <johns^> michaelpo: maybe the graphics are a bit week, but I've run it on a 900MHz celeron
[02:15] <dooglus> xstasi: install 'linux-686' or some such to get the kernel
[02:15] <ardchoille> xstasi: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package and will pull in lots of apps and their deps.
[02:15] <xstasi> Need to get 449MB of archives.
[02:15] <xstasi> After unpacking 1600MB of additional disk space will be used.
[02:15] <xstasi> haha
[02:15] <xstasi> i see
[02:15] <xstasi> :)
[02:15] <johns^> michaelpo: alien arena is fun also
[02:15] <ardchoille> xstasi: And go have a coffee ;)
[02:15] <xstasi> mh.. mh..
[02:16] <unop> pluffsy,  you get that?
[02:16] <xstasi> guys
[02:16] <dooglus> xstasi: since you need to download so much, it might be worth going the alternate-cd route
[02:16] <xstasi> i don't know what are the plans
[02:16] <geo-> ?
[02:16] <pluffsy> unop: hmm I'll try that atleast. :) thanks.
[02:16] <michaelpo> johns^: alien arena has good ai? i tried the win version 6 months ago... there are no enemy... only myself running around
[02:16] <dooglus> xstasi: that way you won't have to manually install a kernel, set up /etc/fstab, grub, etc.
[02:16] <xstasi> but wouldn't it be nice on feisty to have the propr drivers by default on live cds?
[02:16] <johns^> michaelpo: it's a great online(!) shooter
[02:16] <unop> pluffsy,  if you have additional params at the command line -- use something like this- function parse () { for i; do echo "[$i] "; done };  parse "foo bar" "baz quuz" "etc etc";
[02:17] <xstasi> dooglus, well, i need to download less MBs, and i don't have to waste a cd..
[02:17] <michaelpo> cant find that in synaptics too....
[02:17] <kiwii> sometimes my mouse (USB) freezes, and i have to do modprobe -r usbhid ; modprobe usbhid... do you know where is the problem ?
[02:17] <xstasi> i'm pretty used to debootstraps, i've installed debian many times from gentoo live cds eheh
[02:17] <unop> xstasi,  why not just install minimally -- something like fluxbox ?
[02:17] <michaelpo> johns^: cant find alien arena in synaptics as well...
[02:17] <dooglus> xstasi: that's fine, so long as you're able to get the debootstrapped install to be bootable.
[02:17] <dooglus> xstasi: there's a bit of fiddling around required
[02:17] <varkatope> @xstasi: this discussion has come to an end, there will be no proprietary drivers installed by default on feisty, and thats good because its ubuntu philosophy to stay opensource
[02:18] <johns^> michaelpo: correct
[02:18] <headphase> hello
[02:18] <Shaffox> michaelpo: sudo apt-get install alien
[02:18] <johns^> michaelpo: use google
[02:18] <xstasi> varkatope, right, i get it
[02:18] <johns^> Shaffox: that's something else :)
[02:18] <pluffsy> unop: but hmm when I pass $1 too echo the whole string is displayed. but maybe echo translates the array into a full string and lpr can't do that?
[02:18] <xstasi> dooglus, fiddling?
[02:18] <Shaffox> johns^: oh, ok :)
[02:18] <pluffsy> too -> to
[02:18] <headphase> I am having trouble partitioning my hd
[02:18] <dooglus> xstasi: like setting up /etc/fstab, grub, and a few other little things
[02:18] <xstasi> dooglus, yeah, everything seems to be documented on the former link
[02:18] <xstasi> so np :)
[02:19] <tom47> headphase what sort of trouble
[02:19] <dooglus> xstasi: see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426
[02:19] <headphase> tom47: it says there is no root
[02:19] <xstasi> varkatope, a good workaround could be to install from framebuffer too, like new debian installer
[02:19] <xstasi> varkatope, i mean, one should be able to install ubuntu on any computer with any video board
[02:19] <unop> pluffsy,  errm, it looks like you arent quoting that parameter you pass to the script properly -- call your script like this -- script "spaced parameter"
[02:20] <mwe> headphase: the installer?
[02:20] <unop> pluffsy,  and script there should pick up $1 as "spaced parameter"
[02:20] <xstasi> dooglus, yeah, i am desktopping :)
[02:20] <dooglus> xstasi: you what?
[02:20] <tom47> headphase are you installing ubuntu??? ... if so its ounds lie you need to make one of the partitions the root partition ... thi is indicated with a /
[02:20] <unop> pluffsy,  if that is not an option, you will need to join up $1 and $2 (and whatever else)
[02:21] <xstasi> apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop
[02:21] <nexousNET> Hi, How would I go about making ubuntu 6.10 run the command 'opt/lampp/lampp start' on startup?
[02:21] <dooglus> xstasi: I see
[02:21] <varkatope> @xstasi: opensource drivers cover most graphic chipsets, so installation is no problem
[02:21] <unop> nexousNET,  create a script, place it in /etc/init.d  and use update-rc.d to enable the script in the runlevels you want
[02:22] <xstasi> varkatope, they only cover til 9200, speaking of ati radeon
[02:22] <headphase> tom47, yes I am trying to install it
[02:22] <nexousNET> unop: update-r.d, where might I find that?
[02:22] <edeca> I'm trying to create a backport of apache2.2 for 6.06lts, but one of the build deps is not available.  Is there any way to get round this?
[02:22] <unop> nexousNET,  man update-rc.d
[02:22] <nexousNET> unop: also, just to double check, by script you mean .sh file
[02:22] <varkatope> @xstasi: i had now problems installing on an radeon 9800 pro
[02:22] <xstasi> lucky boy :)
[02:23] <johns^> nexousNET: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[02:23] <nexousNET> unop: All I have to do is type 'opt/lampp/lampp start' in a .sh file?
[02:23] <unop> nexousNET,  yep .. although it doesnt have to end with .sh .. just make sure it is executable
[02:23] <nexousNET> johns^: okay.
[02:23] <xstasi> varkatope, so if a friend of mine tells me "the cd you gave me is freezing on boot, and i can't install ubuntu"
[02:23] <headphase> which one should I make the root and how do I do that?
[02:23] <Andrew_0> Would someone here be able to help me connect to my Apple Wireless Keyboard?
[02:23] <mwe> nexousNET: put it in /etc/rc.local then
[02:23] <xstasi> should i give him alternate and then make him install fglrx by hand?
[02:23] <xstasi> just to know.. :)
[02:23] <johns^> nexousNET: the script has to start with #! /bin/sh
[02:23] <varkatope> @xstasi: i would encourage him to try the alternate install cd
[02:24] <nexousNET> johns^: okay thanks, wouldn't have known that.
[02:24] <mwe> nexousNET: you can put various commands to run at boot time in /etc/rc.local
[02:24] <edeca> xstasi: How far does it get?  No boot at all?  Part of the boot?
[02:24] <tom47> headphase have you installed linux previously?
[02:24] <xstasi> edeca, X frozen
[02:24] <xstasi> happens on every distro
[02:24] <headphase> tom47, no
[02:24] <Mumbles> anyone know what this means http://mpd.pastebin.ca/357089 - when trying to get gnump3d to find the files?
[02:24] <tom47> ah
[02:24] <edeca> xstasi: Dodgy graphics or similar?
[02:24] <mwe> nexousNET: you don't need a script to just run a command at boot
[02:24] <tim167> i have a problem installing nvidia driver, can it be installed from synaptic or not ? thanks
[02:24] <xstasi> edeca, ati radeon 9550
[02:25] <xstasi> X starts
[02:25] <nexousNET> mwe: well, I'm doing it this way now, if it works, it's fine with me.
[02:25] <xstasi> doesn't display anything
[02:25] <royel_> tim167: have you tried using envy?
[02:25] <varkatope> @tim167: yes, but not the most recent version
[02:25] <xstasi> and the box is frozen
[02:25] <xstasi> black screen of death
[02:25] <xstasi> :?)
[02:25] <xstasi> :)
[02:25] <tom47> headphase glance through these screenshots .... http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-desktop-installation-with-screenshots.html
[02:25] <Peacer> !dualboot
[02:25] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:25] <unop> Mumbles,  it means that /usr/share/example-content/example-content is a link to a link to a link and so on ...
[02:25] <tim167> royel/  what is envy ?
[02:25] <Mumbles> yeh i get confused with the next bit
[02:26] <unop> Mumbles,  try and ensure that /usr/share/example-content/example-content points to the location directly instead of through other links
[02:26] <royel_> tim167: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:26] <nexousNET> How is it that I create a file through terminal?
[02:26] <dooglus> nexousNET: touch file
[02:26] <unop> nexousNET,  gedit filename
[02:27] <tim167> varkatope: installed nvidia with synaptic but when i replace 'nv' with 'nvidia' in xorg.conf i get something like 'driver not found'
[02:27] <varkatope> @tim167: are you planning to install xgl or aiglx and beryl or compiz? if not, the driver in synaptic should fit ur needs
[02:27] <cma> nexousNET: vi file
[02:27] <ndlovu_> think I got disconnected when I asked this last . any idea how to get vi working so it doesn't print A,B,C,D when I use arrow keys in insert mode?
[02:27] <varkatope> tim167: what kind of nvidia chipset do u have?, perhaps you need the legacy driver
[02:27] <nexousNET> cma: there.
[02:27] <xstasi> well thanks for all
[02:27] <tim167> varkarope: i need video accelleration for Gem (pure data)
[02:27] <xstasi> see you :)
[02:27] <jit> hey
[02:28] <system_e> Tar or gzip just corrupted my file. It was normal text file. Now gedit can' t open it and kate or mcedit opens it but there is extra space between each letter.
[02:28] <unop> cma,  you'd recommaned vi to someone like that?
[02:28] <mwe> nexousNET: feel free to complicate things of course, but just sudo su -c 'echo opt/lampp/lampp start' >> /etc/rc.local would solve it for you
[02:28] <Mumbles> unop, - http://mpd.pastebin.ca/357094
[02:28] <tim167> varkatope i doubt its legacy its a 6600 somthing...( ? )
[02:28] <dooglus> unop: you're recommend gedit to someone who just wants to create a file?
[02:28] <mwe> nexousNET: sudo su -c 'echo opt/lampp/lampp start >> /etc/rc.local' that is
[02:28] <Mumbles> not know what the hell that means
[02:28] <headphase> tom47: I get to this window http://debianadmin.com/copper/displayimage.php?pid=744&fullsize=1 how do I set the root?
[02:28] <royel_> tim167: did you see this link http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:28] <varkatope> @tim167: right, thats far from beein legacy, so the package: nvidia-glx should work
[02:29] <unop> dooglus,  right, because in all likeliness, he wants to have content placed in it
[02:29] <cma> unop: true, touch is probably a better alt.
[02:29] <nexousNET> Is that a command, or do I put that into /etc/rc.local?
[02:29] <dooglus> unop: we don't even know if he's got X working
[02:29] <varkatope> @tim167: look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:29] <mwe> nexousNET: it's a command that puts the line in /etc/rc.local
[02:29] <edeca> nexousNET: Just put /opt/lampp/lampp start in /etc/rc.local
[02:29] <tim167> royel: oh almost forgot to look, thanks :)
[02:29] <ob1> hello
[02:29] <nexousNET> okay.
[02:29] <tom47> headphase i suggest you create 3 partitions
[02:29] <royel_> tim167: yw
[02:29] <tom47> how much space do you have avaiable for linux?
[02:30] <ob1> I would like to import my mail from mozilla-mail to evolution. Do you now how to do that ?
[02:30] <mwe> edeca: that's what I suggested ;)
[02:30] <unop> Mumbles,  why are you showing me this?
[02:30] <tom47> headphase you must have two partitions and its betterif you have 3 ... how much space is availabe for linux?
[02:30] <Mumbles> was wondering what it means
[02:31] <headphase> tom47: is there an irc client on ubuntu?
[02:31] <varkatope> xchat
[02:31] <mwe> headphase: several
[02:31] <tom47> yes
[02:31] <tom47> headphase and if its not there you can soon add it with synaptic .....
[02:31] <michaelpo>  i cant find the .deb file for alienarena
[02:31] <nexousNET> Do I want 'opt/lampp/lampp start' before or after 'exit 0'
[02:31] <dooglus> really?  there's an IRC client in ubuntu?  gosh, I've been booting into Windows each time I needed to IRC.
[02:31] <mwe> headphase: xchat probably being the most popular client
[02:31] <jit> does somebody know how to run a genius mousepen on ubuntu? i just have ubuntu since last week and don't have any clue
[02:32] <jit> @dooglus: GAIM?
[02:32] <headphase> I have almost 50 gb freespace on my hd
[02:32] <varkatope> @dooglus: lolz
[02:32] <mwe> nexousNET: oh. before
[02:32] <nexousNET> mwe: okay thanks.
[02:32] <headphase> I just defraged it too
[02:32] <dooglus> sudo apt-get install mIRC?
[02:32] <tom47> headphase i us XCHAT-Gnome-IRC chat
[02:32] <unop> Mumbles,  it usually means that perl's File::Find will not process that location because it has come across it already when doing a search of file in a location -- it's a sign that you need to repair this link and get it to point directly at the location you want, rather than indirectly through another link
[02:32] <Shaffox> dooglus: or just Xchat ..
[02:32] <IdleOne> dooglus, Umirc is the package
[02:32] <nexousNET> :/ now I have permissions error for rc.local for saving....
[02:32] <varkatope> @dooglus: sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[02:32] <royel_> headphase: irssi is what I use
[02:32] <tom47> headphase how much ram in computer?
[02:32] <headphase> tom47: is that already installed?
[02:32] <edeca> mwe: I was clearing it up, that's all :)
[02:32] <mwe> nexousNET: you need to gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local if you want to be able to save the file
[02:33] <nexousNET> mwe: okay.
[02:33] <mwe> nexousNET: normal users are not allowed to tamper with system files in linux
[02:33] <ob1> I would like to import my mail from mozilla-mail to evolution. Do you now how to do that ?
[02:33] <tom47> headphase not sure its easily added though using synaptic, a package installer under the System>Administration menu
[02:33] <headphase> tom47: do you mean freespace or total on hd?
[02:33] <nexousNET> mwe: even the admin? not root.
[02:34] <nexousNET> mwe: (gksudo:12764): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: is what i get now
[02:34] <mwe> nexousNET: sudo/gksudo is a command to run commands as root
[02:34] <tom47> headphase you said you ad 50gb free to allocate to linux on hard disk yes????  how much ram does yr computer have?
[02:34] <ndlovu_> wow. what do I get with vim-full that I don't have with vim-tiny? (After unpacking 30.0MB of additional disk space will be used.)
[02:34] <mwe> nexousNET: are you i X window?
[02:34] <headphase> 120 gb
[02:34] <mwe> nexousNET: try sudo nano /etc/rc.local
[02:34] <nexousNET> mwe: I'm using Konsole as Super user, is that why?
[02:34] <mwe> nexousNET: yeah. sudo nano /etc/rc.local will work
[02:35] <nexousNET> got it.
[02:35] <dooglus> or just 'nano /etc/rc.local'
[02:35] <tom47> headphase RAM .... total memory not hard disk space please
[02:35] <headphase> oh, you mean memory?
[02:35] <dooglus> no need to 'sudo' if you're already superuser
[02:35] <tom47> :)
[02:35] <ob1> sudo -s is working also :)
[02:35] <mwe> dooglus: yeah if he's root. but he said he couldn't save the file. odd
[02:35] <headphase> 1 gb
[02:35] <unop> ndlovu_,  locales, languages, help files, syntax help files, support for languages like perl, python, etc, etc
[02:35] <jit> 1gb ram?
[02:35] <headphase> yes
[02:35] <tom47> headphase ok here is what we want to do with that 50 gb of hard disk .....
[02:36] <nexousNET> What are the usergroups of ubuntu
[02:36] <jit> <_<' have 256 ram
[02:36] <nexousNET> You have your root(for system), then your admin? or just super user
[02:36] <varkatope> have 2048mb ram, my penis is longer ;P
[02:36] <mwe> nexousNET: root and normal users
[02:36] <ndlovu_> unop, 30MB worth? I always thought vim was a small little app. powerful, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised
[02:36] <nexousNET> okay
[02:36] <IdleOne> !ohmy | varkatope
[02:36] <ubotu> varkatope: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:36] <royel_> varkatope: lol, your naughty
[02:36] <dooglus> nexousNET: what are usergroups?
[02:36] <nexousNET> normal user would be what I entered my username as on setup?
[02:37] <mwe> nexousNET: normal users can be configured to be able to use sudo on a per user basis, though
[02:37] <varkatope> just kidding
[02:37] <jit> @varkatope: hey i'm lucky that it still runs
[02:37] <tom47> headphase we need a root partition (/) of about 10gb, we can use another 10 gb for (/home) and we must have a swap partition of 1 gb
[02:37] <unop> ndlovu_,  vim is small and extensible, you have just installed all the extensions :
[02:37] <unop> :)
[02:37] <mwe> nexousNET: by default users who are in the admin group can use sudo
[02:37] <nexousNET> dooglus: Just different 'access' attributes pretty much
[02:37] <tom47> headphase some folk think you need 1.5gb of swap partition but 1gb is enough
[02:37] <nexousNET> Okay
[02:37] <ob1> sudo -s is working also :)
[02:37] <babo> where can i find good compiz/beryl 3D themes for my computer ?
[02:37] <ob1> I would like to import my mail from mozilla-mail to evolution. Do you now how to do that ?
[02:37] <dooglus> nexousNET: ubuntu has 'users' and 'groups' - users belong to groups.  'usergroups' doesn't mean much though
[02:37] <IdleOne> !themes | babo
[02:37] <ubotu> babo: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:37] <mwe> babo: kde-look.org
[02:37] <royel_> babo: gnome-look.org ?
[02:38] <tom47> headphase so the first thing we need to do is to create those partitions
[02:38] <dooglus> ob1: I know how I did it, but it wasn't easy
[02:38] <nexousNET> dooglus: well, usersgroups = groups.
[02:38] <michaelpo> im tired.... will try finding fps and installing it another day..... bedtime... good night...
[02:38] <Frogzoo> babo: do you have emerald installed?
[02:38] <dooglus> nexousNET: ok.  there's a list of groups in /etc/group
[02:38] <nexousNET> What if my main account is under the group 'root' ?
[02:38] <nexousNET> Is that bad?
[02:38] <bard> how come the wiki uses SSL ?
[02:38] <babo> Frogzoo: nope
[02:38] <tom47> the / (or root) partition should be of type ext3 as should the /home partition whereas the /swap partition needs to be of type swap
[02:38] <ndlovu_> unop, :) thanks
[02:38] <babo> Frogzoo, what's that ?
[02:39] <Rexie> lol
[02:39] <babo> How do I know whether or not my nvidia graphics card will handle the 3D themes ?
[02:39] <dooglus> nexousNET: that's not especially bad, no.  it's not how it should be, but shouldn't cause any problems
[02:39] <varkatope> @babo: you should install the latest nvidia driver manually
[02:39] <tom47> headphase do you want to boot up the livecd again and then find an irc client (or install one) then come back?
[02:39] <nexousNET> dooglus: well If I change it to 'admin' will it change anything?
[02:40] <mwe> dooglus: my user is not in the root group. in admin, though
[02:40] <dooglus> nexousNET: you don't need to change it - you can add groups - each user can be member of multiple groups
[02:40] <babo> varkatope: hmm ... that sounds like it's going to be a pain in the ass ...
[02:40] <dooglus> mwe: being in admin means you can sudo
[02:40] <nexousNET> dooglus: okay, well I have to go
[02:40] <tom47> !root
[02:40] <nexousNET> Thanks for the help everyone.
[02:40] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:40] <mwe> dooglus: I know
[02:40] <dooglus> mwe: being in root doesn't mean a lot, I don't think
[02:40] <ob1> I would like to import my mail from mozilla-mail to evolution. Do you now how to do that ?
[02:40] <tom47> 1/
[02:40] <dooglus> ob1: yes
[02:40] <varkatope> @babo, it isnt, unfortunately i cant give u a tutorial in english, only in german if it helps
[02:41] <tom47> !/
[02:41] <mwe> dooglus: it means you can tamper with some system files if the root group has write perms
[02:41] <mwe> dooglus: only root should be in the root group ;)
[02:42] <bjdiei> I upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 and my hardware is not working (/etc/init.d/hotplug is missing too).   How do I fix this?
[02:42] <headphase> tom47: yeah, I'll see if I can come back
[02:42] <babo> varkatope: nah, it's ok thanks anyway ...
[02:42] <mahatma> hello: I'm trying to launch an app, but it says that it needs a font called: -*-times-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646 and I only have -*-times-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1. I'm on dapper; anyone got a ny idea?
[02:43] <mahatma> it is the same font, but I got a "-1" appended to that name, for some reason
[02:43] <ob1> I would like to import my mail from mozilla-mail to evolution. Do you now how to do that ?
[02:43] <unop> mwe,  well, most system files that matter are writeable only by the root user and not those in the root group anyway, but yea, not a good idea to add oneself into the root group as the EGID changes
[02:43] <Frogzoo> babo: emerald is a theme manager - reread the beryl install docs
[02:44] <dooglus> ob1: they both use mbox format, so you just need to move the mbox files
[02:44] <mwe> bjdiei: hotplug was dropped in favour of udev/hal in 6.06
[02:44] <yettenet> Could you tell me where can I install JVM from?
[02:44] <erUSUL> ob1: in Evolution File>Import
[02:44] <mwe> unop: right
[02:44] <unop> !java > yettenet , check PM from ubotu
[02:44] <ob1> erUSUL, import not working ...
[02:45] <bjdiei> mwe: Thanks mwe, how do I fix it?
[02:45] <mwe> bjdiei: what's not working?
[02:45] <bjdiei> no sound, usbmouse etc
[02:45] <bjdiei> mwe:no sound, usbmouse etc
[02:45] <erUSUL> ob1: mozilla mail stores mail in mbox format afaik and evolution can import those files
[02:46] <mwe> bjdiei: well you need to make sure the right modules are loaded. I don't know why usb modules are not loaded
[02:46] <babo> how likely is beryl or compiz to fork everything up, if I install them on my system ?
[02:47] <bjdiei> mwe: Is hal supposed to do this? I had to load my network module manually.
[02:47] <apokryphos> babo: /msg ubotu beryl
[02:47] <mwe> babo: not likely. just don't use it if it doesn't work
[02:47] <Shaffox> how can i see my video card options ? is there a command for it?
[02:48] <dooglus> ob1: they both use mbox format, so you just need to move the mbox files
[02:48] <[OG] 6ton> hey, can i make a dual boot setup with my windows xp and ubunto?
[02:48] <Shaffox> [OG] 6ton: yes you can
[02:48] <varkatope> babo: you can easily deinstall it if it doesnt work
[02:48] <[OG] 6ton> with out burning a cd Shaffox?
[02:48] <Shaffox> !dualboot
[02:48] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:48] <kiwii> how can i run x windows program from shell
[02:48] <mwe> bjdiei: well you put the names of the modules that you want to load at boot time in /etc/modules. The idea is the system should automagically load the right modules but that doesn't always happen
[02:49] <kiwii> i got cannot connect to X server
[02:49] <mwe> bjdiei: you need to figure the names of the modules you need to load
[02:49] <babo> OK, if I want to dual boot with my present windows system. And I just throw in the edgy disk and ask it to repartition and set up a dual-boot. Do you think it'll work ?
[02:49] <babo> or is there a chance that it will fork everything up ?
[02:49] <bjdiei> mwe: It used to automatically happen. Since this is a desktop I need hotplug b/c I constantly add/remove usb stuff
[02:50] <Slart> babo: I think it'll work
[02:50] <Slart> babo: it worked for me =
[02:50] <babo> Slart: k thanks
[02:50] <mwe> bjdiei: hotplug is not anymore. hal/udev is supposed to do the same job.
[02:50] <sebrock> I have a problem getting azuerus to work, anyone wanna help me?
[02:50] <varkatope> babo: its the normal installation to do so, if there is free space on your hd, if not, resizing of the win-partition is necessary, and that may be dangerous
[02:50] <mwe> bjdiei: I don't know why it's not working well in your case
[02:50] <Slart> babo: come to think of it.. my windows partition is still there... just haven't used it for a while.
[02:51] <bjdiei> mwe: Do you know how to configure hal to do this?
[02:51] <Peacer> o_O
[02:51] <ob1> dooglus, Yes but the import fonction is not working enymore !
[02:51] <Shaffox> go, Seveas , go
[02:51] <mwe> bjdiei: it shouldn't need to be configured. try loading the modules. after that removing/adding usb hardware should work I think
[02:52] <varkatope> no-ban-party?!?
[02:52] <Peacer> give me a wtfcake
[02:53] <mwe> how do you ignore foo removes/sets ban on bar in xchat?
[02:53] <varkatope> i hope Seveas nad apokryphos are admins....
[02:54] <Seveas> varkatope, we are :)
[02:54] <gentimjs> I dont mean to troll, but is it normal for apps/daemons in ubuntu to not come with rc scripts? (specifically im asking about subversion/svnserve)
[02:54] <Enselic``> If my wireless card can only handle abg, will itnot be able to handle WPA2?
[02:55] <gentimjs> it just seems inconceivable to me that a server daemon package wouldnt come with an appropriate rc script in /etc/init.d ... or am I missing something?
[02:56] <headphase> tom47: ok I am at the partition menu
[02:56] <sacater> whats the keyboard binding to send a window to another desktop
[02:56] <tom47> headphase: great
[02:57] <bjdiei> Hi all, I just upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 and hal is not working properly, anyone know what I should try?
[02:57] <yettenet> Hm :P
[02:57] <yettenet> Mass unbans
[02:57] <yettenet> :)
[02:57] <Loveubuntu> who the latest stable version of the Linux  for ubuntu server
[02:57] <varkatope> better than massbans ^^
[02:57] <tom47> headphase we need a swap partition .... this should be circa 1gb in your case of type swap
[02:57] <yettenet> You might be right, varkatope
[02:57] <yettenet> :P
[02:57] <usr13> Mouse just all-of-a-suden quit working.  Any clues as to why that would happen?
[02:58] <gentimjs> anyone have any insight into the missing rc-script issue I mentioned?
[02:58] <defrysk> unbanistinesday?
[02:58] <tom47> headphase: we need a base system area where root looks after most of the things that actually do stuff in linux this is called the root parition and id normally shoen a /
[02:58] <varkatope> maybe admins are in love and have to share their happiness ;)
[02:58] <Loveubuntu> who the latest stable version of the Linux  for ubuntu server , a like to recompile need, source
[02:59] <Enselic``> Seveas: what's going on?
[02:59] <Seveas> Enselic``, just some spring cleaning
[02:59] <headphase> tom47: so should I resize the sda2 to 21 gb?
[02:59] <tom47> headphase: we also need somewhere for you own data and certain other files for users and so i recommend andother partition called /home
[02:59] <defrysk> happy unbanistinesday!
[02:59] <sacater> whats the keyboard binding to send a window to another desktop
[02:59] <derder> does somebody know how to switch channels in bitchx
[02:59] <Shaffox> everyone should get a second chance :)
[02:59] <tom47> what is sda2?
[02:59] <yettenet> Pf....
[02:59] <Shaffox> derder: tried /j #channel ?
[02:59] <defrysk> tom47, slave disc
[03:00] <yettenet> A whole bunch of unbanned people, I say
[03:00] <yettenet> :P
[03:00] <mjr> tom47, the second partition of your first sata/usb/scsi drive
[03:00] <defrysk> ooh sorry
[03:00] <defrysk> mjr,  is right
[03:00] <orgy`> hi, ive got sun-java5-jre installed, but i want java 1.5 not 1.4.2 (as java --version says) what do i have to do?
[03:00] <derder> im talking of switching not joining
[03:00] <headphase> tom47: so 3 partitions totaling 21 gb?
[03:01] <tom47> headphase can you list all the partitions you presently have and what they are used for please
[03:01] <tom47> headphase yes
[03:01] <gentimjs> anyone have any clue why the latest subversion (svnserve) on ubuntu doesnt come with init.d scripts?
[03:01] <defrysk> orgy`, sudo update-alternatives config java and follow instructions
[03:02] <tom47> heaadphase you can make use of the remaining space at any future time whe you need it
[03:02] <defrysk> orgy`, sudo update-alternatives --config java and follow instructions
[03:02] <defrysk> that is
[03:02] <headphase> tom47: should the space to be partitioned be the unallocated?
[03:02] <defrysk> double --
[03:02] <orgy`> defrysk already did that, but then i get Unrecognized option: --version
[03:02] <orgy`> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[03:03] <defrysk> orgy`, how did you install java ?
[03:03] <tom47> you shoudl take these 3 partitions successively out of the unallocated space
[03:03] <Morfeus> oieeeee
[03:03] <Loveubuntu> who the latest stable version of the Linux  for ubuntu server ?
[03:03] <Bayu> any body can help me
[03:03] <tanascar> Anyone know of a good newbie guide to the linux file structure (in detail)...  showing what goes where and what each area is for?
[03:03] <defrysk> can someone kick Seveas for flooding ;p
[03:04] <varkatope> tanascar: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/
[03:04] <defrysk> hehe
[03:04] <defrysk> :s
[03:04] <mwe> orgy`: the links created by update-alternatives for java didn't work for me either. I did ln -fns /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/java /usr/bin/java
[03:04] <tanascar> varkatope: thanks :)
[03:04] <b52laptop> any one have  a soundmax card on a laptop ?
[03:04] <varkatope> tanascar: np
[03:04] <mwe> orgy`: same for javac
[03:04] <LjL> !pm | Bayu
[03:04] <ubotu> Bayu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[03:04] <headphase> tom47: the file system is nfts, would that be a problem
[03:05] <mwe> orgy`: it's java -version, not java --version, though
[03:05] <orgy`> ah xD
[03:05] <freetos> how does ubuntu's repo's compare with the size of debian's?
[03:05] <Seveas> ubuntu has all debian has and more
[03:05] <tanascar> One more question for the group.. does everyone normally do 2 or 3 partions for a new ubuntu install? I am installing fresh cause of a crash and found out if I did 3 I would have been able to save my home partition.
[03:05] <mwe> orgy`: it's annoying these things are not consistent ;)
[03:05] <apokryphos> freetos: hu-uge
[03:05] <orgy`> well i dont know if it works because of your links, but now it seems to work anyway
[03:06] <orgy`> thank you guys ;)
[03:06] <mjr> freetos, the universe repo basically has the debian stuff compiled for ubuntu
[03:06] <mjr> (plus maybe some)
[03:06] <Frogzoo> tanascar: /home should be mandatory, I also like to have /var & /usr separate - & just have 500 meg /
[03:06] <mwe> orgy`: well I get the error you described with java --version ;)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> mwe: java -version
[03:06] <orgy`> hehe
[03:06] <mwe> gnomefreak: I know
[03:06] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[03:07] <Bayu> >	i want to compile PostgreSQL, but a can't run gmake. why???
[03:07] <Frogzoo> curiously noone has yet suggested /etc/ as its own parition, but it's looking increasingly like a reasonable option
[03:07] <yettenet> Are the updating servers slow for you either? :P
[03:07] <tanascar> Frogzoo: So you recommend at least 3?
[03:08] <mwe> Bayu: use make, not?
[03:08] <yettenet> If not, could you give me an adress where I can get the files faster
[03:08] <mwe> Bayu: usually you don't run gmake, just make
[03:08] <b52laptop> any one have a laptop hp nx 6110 ?
[03:08] <tom47> tanascar this isn't bad either http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[03:08] <Pici> Bayu: install build-essential
[03:08] <yettenet> 8220 here :P
[03:08] <Frogzoo> tanascar: I say /home  & swap - the rest is up to you - if you run apache or mysql, /var is essential also
[03:08] <headphase> tom47: I got an error
[03:08] <LjL> Bayu: can't you use the postgres that is in the repos instead of compiling it yourself?
[03:08] <m0xie__> yettenet, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the mirrors from us to ca.   I haven't been able to reliably update fromt he us mirrors in weeks
[03:08] <Bayu> i have install build-essenstial
[03:08] <tanascar> Great.. thanks guys
[03:08] <yettenet> :P
[03:09] <mwe> Bayu: as I said use make, not gmake
[03:09] <yettenet> Well, I'm in Europe :)
[03:09] <tom47> headphase tell me more
[03:09] <Shaffox> is there a command to see your video card options ??
[03:09] <yettenet> But I will try it :)
[03:09] <yettenet> What's your usual dl speed, m0xie__ ?
[03:09] <m0xie__> Not incredibly fast, but with the us mirrors i was constantly getting stalled connections, etc
[03:09] <kane77> hi...
[03:09] <headphase> tom47: it occured while allowing space for partioning
[03:09] <yettenet> Oh... :P
[03:09] <derder> how can i burn a directory to a dvd
[03:09] <kane77> what do I use to make .iso out of a cd?
[03:09] <Bayu> i use make, but error
[03:10] <derder> only commandline access
[03:10] <yettenet> Well, then it seems that I'm lucky with my 10k average, right?
[03:10] <headphase> tom47: the error window is blank now
[03:10] <mwe> Bayu: what error? did you configure first?
[03:10] <tom47> headphase does windows resently occupy the whole disc?
[03:10] <Frogzoo> kane77: sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=blah.iso bs=1000000
[03:10] <tom47> presently*
[03:10] <headphase> tom47: yes
[03:10] <mwe> Bayu: have you installed all nessecary headers and stuff?
[03:10] <chrisjw_> how do i flush dns pleae
[03:10] <Bayu> yes offcourse i'm ./configure
[03:11] <m0xie__> yettenet, that's a bit slow.. I'd play around with adjusting to other mirrors and see if your speeds increase.
[03:11] <yettenet> :)
[03:11] <yettenet> Ah
[03:11] <yettenet> Fine
[03:11] <headphase> tom47: do I need to kill app?
[03:11] <ardchoille> Seveas , LjL : Cleaning house?
[03:11] <Frogzoo> kane77: k3b also will do it
[03:11] <LjL> ardchoille: yes
[03:11] <yettenet> How much do you download with usually, moxie? :P
[03:11] <chrisjw_> ANYONE ??
[03:11] <mwe> Bayu: so what are the errors you get? and can't you use the one in the repositories?
[03:11] <m0xie__> yettenet, to be honest I haven't noticed.   Let me go try pulling a package down to see.
[03:11] <kane77> Frogzoo, thanx
[03:11] <tom47> headphase the step 1 requires that the windows partition be shrunk first ... before doing any of that you need to ensure you have backeup up anything that you value incase you make a mistake
[03:11] <Frogzoo> chrisjw_: default is no dns cache
[03:12] <Bayu> i'm using apt-get install postgresql, but is the old postgresql, not the latest
[03:12] <soundray> kane77: another way would be to right-click and select Copy Disk
[03:12] <chrisjw_> oh
[03:12] <headphase> well I shrunk it
[03:12] <Slart> anyone know of a nice, fairly recent summary of filesystems for linux?
[03:12] <yettenet> mwe: I think they just simply ended
[03:12] <ardchoille> mwe: How?
[03:12] <unop> Bayu,  did you update apt's sources?
[03:12] <Frogzoo> Slart: it's here --->  "use ext3"
[03:12] <tom47> headphase oh ok ... does windows still work in its reduced space?
[03:13] <Bayu> how i update the repository
[03:13] <chrisjw_> im just confused because i can't connect to msn messenger whereas my friend can
[03:13] <mwe> ardchoille: well I already have an ignore script. add ignore 'Channel UnBan' to the list of events to ignore
[03:13] <Slart> Frogzoo: hehe.. thanks for that little summary.. I'm already wrong in using reiser on my boot partition then? =)
[03:13] <headphase> tom47: I haven't tried
[03:13] <chrisjw_> I assumed it was because the server I am connecting to is dead
[03:13] <unop> Bayu,  sudo aptitude update   (but you need the right repositories enabled)
[03:13] <soundray> derder: insert the blank and follow the prompts
[03:13] <ardchoille> mwe: Easy enough, thanks
[03:13] <headphase> tom47: I am at the mountpoins screen
[03:13] <headphase> points*
[03:13] <Bayu> ok thank , i try to update
[03:14] <tom47> headphase make me happy by telling me you backep up all the valuable stuff in the windows partition first
[03:14] <m0xie__> I'm getting ~ 150/200k second yettenet
[03:14] <mwe> maybe I need to add 'Channel Ban' as well ;)
[03:14] <yettenet> Oh, damn... then I'm really slow
[03:14] <yettenet> This net can handle around 512K/s
[03:14] <unop> Bayu,  i'd use something like this (for edgy) http://pastebin.ca/348620
[03:14] <IdleOne> yettenet, I usualy average about 340/kps
[03:15] <yettenet> I'll try the canadian one
[03:15] <headphase> tom47: I dont hae anything that valuble to backup
[03:15] <chrisjw_> brb
[03:15] <tom47> headphase ok then the risk is all yours ok?
[03:15] <yettenet> So you say that I should change the first part of addresses from xy. to ca., right?
[03:16] <headphase> tom47: yes
[03:16] <m0xie__> yettenet, yes
[03:16] <tom47> headphase how many hard disks do you have?
[03:16] <Peacer> I got a problem with dualbooting, can't get my windoez boot back :|
[03:16] <yettenet> Done :P
[03:16] <headphase> tom47: what do I do at the mountpoins screen?
[03:16] <unop> yettenet,  yes, something like -- sudo perl -i.bak -pe 's[\bus\.] [ca.] ' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:16] <headphase> points*
[03:16] <Loveubuntu> how to download the last kernel edtion server to recompile
[03:17] <Shaffox> can i acces my windows hard disk ,
[03:17] <tom47> headphone at the mount point screen you are allocating the partitions on the hard disk to mount points within the linux file system
[03:17] <yettenet> Whoa :)
[03:17] <yettenet> I just changed it by mousepad
[03:17] <yettenet> D
[03:17] <yettenet> :D
[03:17] <tom47> headphase sorry
[03:17] <IdleOne> !dualboot | Peacer
[03:17] <ubotu> Peacer: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:17] <Shaffox> i have 2 separated hard disks, can i access my windows (my files) hard disk ?
[03:18] <Frogzoo> Loveubuntu: whatever's latest in the repos is the latest you'll get source to match, & that's all that's supported
[03:18] <freetos> operation destroy and wallow in the quagmire
[03:18] <derder> how can i burn dvds in console
[03:18] <Frogzoo> !ntfs | Shaffox
[03:18] <ubotu> Shaffox: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:18] <Slart> ok, I have now formatted a new disk using gparted, one big partition. /dev/sdb1 .. how do I make this partition appear in nautilus places?
[03:18] <IdleOne> !grub | Peacer
[03:18] <ubotu> Peacer: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:18] <Shaffox> Frogzoo: thanks
[03:18] <andy_0> hi, could anyone help me with my bluetooth keyboard?
[03:18] <headphase> tom47: all I see is sda1, 2, and 3;  no allocated space
[03:18] <Frogzoo> Slart: add an entry in /etc/fstab
[03:18] <yettenet> Varies between 80k at 250k... thanks, m0xie__ :)
[03:18] <andy_0> I'm getting this error upon reboot: -->  hci_acldata_packet: hci0 ACL packet for unknown connection handle 7
[03:18] <Loveubuntu> Frogzoo how to download?
[03:18] <m0xie__> cool!  glad that helped a bit, anyway!
[03:19] <headphase> unallocated*
[03:19] <Frogzoo> Loveubuntu: apt-get source ###
[03:19] <Loveubuntu> k thanks Frogzoo
[03:19] <Loveubuntu> :)
[03:19] <tom47> headphase you will want the swap partition assocoiated with th e/swap mount point, the /home [artition associated with the /home mount point and th e/ (or root) partition associated with the / mount point
[03:19] <Slart> Frogzoo: last time I did this (using fstab), people said I should have used sometihng else.. unfortunately I forgot what I was supposed to use instead
[03:19] <CheshireViking> chrisjw_, you said you had a problem connecting to msn, is it just today? I've seen a few problems with msn today with people not being able to connect or getting kicked off & somebody else mentioned a problem with an msn server
[03:19] <stevr1it> i have ubuntu edgy with gnome. my problem is that on  a hardisk i have the root and grub and on another the home directory. how can i move the root and grub on a third hard disk with the same home directory?
[03:20] <soundray> Loveubuntu: I would just download the 'linux-source-<version>' package
[03:20] <yettenet> Well, I'll just have to do some tricks to starty mercury messenger then... :P
[03:20] <tom47> headphase when you create a partition you have to indicate how big you want it to be
[03:20] <soundray> Loveubuntu: the source ends up as a bz2 file in /usr/src
[03:20] <yettenet> That piece of... somethingbetterthangaim... <cough> doesn't want to start :P
[03:20] <Frogzoo> Slart: they mention UUIDs ?
[03:21] <headphase> tom47: all I see is sda1, 2, and 3 for options
[03:21] <Slart> Frogzoo: nope.. I use that for some of my drives.. it was something else.. an alternative to editing fstab by hand
[03:21] <varkatope> derder: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdwriter -R -J /burn/
[03:21] <tom47> did you create sd2 and sd3?
[03:21] <Loveubuntu> soundray <soundray> Loveubuntu: I would just download the 'linux-source-<version>' package I don't now who the last version of the ubuntu server
[03:21] <varkatope> derder: where /burn is the directory to burn to dvd
[03:22] <Frogzoo> Slart: is this a usb drive ?
[03:22] <headphase> tom47: no, all I created was unallocated which isn't available
[03:22] <Peacer> ubotu: is vget=wget :p?
[03:22] <Peacer> NVM
[03:22] <Peacer> dumb font
[03:22] <Slart> Frogzoo: nope... a regular sata harddrive, ext3
[03:22] <soundray> Loveubuntu: if you're on edgy, it's linux-source-2.6.17
[03:22] <tom47> so you have 50gb of unallocated space headphase?
[03:22] <Frogzoo> Slart: k, stick it in /etc/fstab & have done
[03:22] <Loveubuntu> k thanks:)
[03:22] <Trond^^> it seems i am unable to get mp3 playback on 6.06, even with gstreamer packages supporting playback installed. help on this would be much appreciated! :P
[03:23] <headphase> tom47: no, 20.71 gb
[03:23] <mwe> !mpt | Trond^^
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <mwe> !mp3 | Trond^^
[03:23] <ubotu> Trond^^: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <Slart> Frogzoo: ok, done that.. just wondering what this other, apparently oh so great, way of mounting stuff was
[03:23] <Frogzoo> Slart: I'm curious too
[03:23] <Frogzoo> Slart: sudo mount -a   & done
[03:24] <stevr1it> hello nobody can help me? i have ubuntu edgy with gnome. my problem is that on  a hardisk i have the root and grub and on another the home directory. how can i move the root and grub on a third hard disk with the same home directory?
[03:24] <Slart> Frogzoo: yup.. done that.. but it still doesn't show up in nautilus.. I have to reboot or something stupid windows-like for that to happen?
[03:24] <tom47> headphase we need to just plug through this till we are telling each othe sensible things ok ..... just a bit of patience and we will get there
[03:24] <Slart> Frogzoo: I mean.. it shows up in /media/sdb1.. but not in the places panel
[03:25] <tom47> headphase i am trying to precisely understand how that 120gb hard disk is divided up t begin with ... can you tell me what partitions exist now and how big thye are
[03:25] <freetos> well supported usb headset for linux?
[03:25] <Frogzoo> Slart: dude, what's it doing in /media ? that's for removable devices
[03:26] <Slart> Frogzoo: that's where ubuntu put all my hard drives on install
[03:26] <varkatope> does anyone here have experiences with the new via chipset cx700m2?
[03:26] <Slart> Frogzoo: removable or not
[03:26] <derder> is it possible to mount ntfs partitions writeable
[03:27] <headphase> tom47: sda1 is 39.19 mb, sda2 is 84.14 gb, sda3 is 4.64 gb
[03:27] <varkatope> derder: it is, but its not recommended so far, as it is still in beta
[03:27] <Frogzoo> Slart: how odd
[03:27] <headphase> tom47: sda1 is fat16, sda2 is ntfs, sda3 is fat32
[03:33] <derder> its just because im stupid to burn something on dvd
[03:33] <Enselic``> In my /etc/network/interfaces, there is wlan0 mentioned, but I cannot figure out if wlan0 is eth1?
[03:33] <derder> too
[03:33] <varkatope> derder: did u read my  post above?
[03:33] <Shaffox> the host of a printer, is that the mac adress ?
[03:33] <derder> about cdrecord?
[03:33] <varkatope> derder:  growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdwriter -R -J /burn/
[03:33] <Slart> Frogzoo: indeed what I thought.. but I just figured it was the ubuntu way of doing things .. it's done no harm so far that I know of
[03:33] <varkatope> derder: where /burn is the directory to burn
[03:33] <derder> ah ok thx
[03:33] <bjdiei> Hi all, I just upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 and hal is not working properly, anyone know what I should try?
[03:33] <tom47> headphase god thank you ..... what is in the fat16 partition?
[03:33] <tom47> good*
[03:33] <Frogzoo> bjdiei: you could upgrade to 6.10...
[03:33] <Frogzoo> Shaffox: it's probably the IP
[03:33] <bjdiei> Frogzoo: Thanks I'll try that
[03:33] <headphase> tom47: I am not sure, this computer came partitioned this way
[03:33] <tom47> headphase ok, can i assume that win xp is in sda2?
[03:33] <headphase> tom47: yes
[03:33] <bjdiei> Frogzoo: How do I do that? Update manager doesn't show that as an option/
[03:33] <tom47> k
[03:33] <varkatope> headphase: maybe some m$-recovery stuff?
[03:33] <Peacer> I'm still having trouble with grub :|
[03:33] <soundray> !upgrade | bjdiei
[03:33] <ubotu> bjdiei: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:33] <Peacer> I can't boot my windoez install
[03:33] <tom47> headphase since there is no data on the pc that is of any value how about we use the sda1 partition for linux?
[03:33] <bjdiei> Thanks, I'll try that!
[03:33] <Shaffox> Frogzoo: what's the manufacturer ?
[03:33] <Trixsey> How big is Ubuntus community all in all?
[03:33] <derder> ah ok thx
[03:33] <soundray> bjdiei: consider doing partition image backups, because you cannot downgrade.
[03:33] <mikekl> I have pinnacle hybrid pro stick. I watch analogue tv using tvtime or xawtv but sound is really silent (about 1/4 sound level comparing to that in windows). Furthermore there are white noise on all of the channels and strange crackling on some of them. I made samples of sound using: sox -r 48000 -w -c 2 -t ossdsp /dev/audio1 -t wav /var/test.wav
[03:33] <mikekl> http://www.geol.agh.edu.pl/~s202578/test.wav
[03:33] <mikekl> http://www.geol.agh.edu.pl/~s202578/test2.wav
[03:33] <mikekl> http://www.geol.agh.edu.pl/~s202578/test3.wav
[03:33] <mikekl> How to increase sound level and eliminate crackling and noise? Decreasing sound level in mixer doesn't work.
[03:33] <varkatope> derder: does it work now?
[03:33] <Frogzoo> Shaffox: of your printer? I'm not a mindreader dude
[03:33] <derder> how can i lookup the size of a diretory
[03:33] <varkatope> du
[03:33] <headphase> tom47: ok
[03:33] <Peacer> derder rightclick it and press preferences
[03:33] <Frogzoo> derder: du -sk /xxx
[03:33] <tom47> headphase right so step 1 is delete sda1
[03:33] <Shaffox> Frogzoo: nvm
[03:33] <IdleOne> Trixsey, ubuntu has an estimated 8 million users worldwide I believe
[03:33] <headphase> tom47: so, Ican't create an sda4?
[03:34] <tom47> you did not mention any unused space beyond sda3 ... is there space there unallocated and how much?
[03:34] <tom47> headphase: ^^^^^
[03:35] <headphase> tom47: 21.56 gb
[03:35] <headphase> unallocated
[03:35] <Trixsey> IdleOne, and how many Windows users is there? :P
[03:35] <tom47> headphase so all up the hard disk is 150 - 160 gb in size?
[03:35] <IdleOne> Trixsey, ask in ##windows
[03:35] <Ubuntu-Demo> how much does time I need to write of an harddisk with dd /dev/dandom ?
[03:35] <IdleOne> !windows
[03:35] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:35] <headphase> tom47: 120gb
[03:36] <soundray> Trixsey: Windows is the market dominating operating system. See launchpad bug #1
[03:36] <royel_> IdleOne: lol, thats too funny
[03:36] <headphase> tom47: sda1 is 39 mb
[03:36] <headphase> not gb
[03:36] <Peacer> I have troubles dualbooting, wanted to sneak in a windows partition into my ubuntu partition, I did but can't boot windows now... help anyone?
[03:36] <Peacer> not the bot :|
[03:36] <tom47> headphase this does not compute .... add up the sizes you gave me already for sda 1/2/3
[03:36] <CheshireViking> Trixsey, there's 1 windows user - Bill Gates, the rest of them get used by Windows :)
[03:36] <IdleOne> royel_, type /msg ubotu vista
[03:36] <royel_> CheshireViking: lol, well said :)
[03:36] <hayden_> does the nvidia driver work with the latest kernel in edgy?
[03:37] <rojo^> hayden_: yep
[03:37] <soundray> Peacer: configure your /boot/grub/menu.lst. There is a sample title... section for Windows. Copy it to the end of the file and uncomment.
[03:37] <felix_> In Firefox, I assigned "gmplayer" with the file type ".asx", but I cannot reset this assignment, as there is none listed in "File | Downloads | Download Actions".
[03:37] <Trixsey> CheshireViking, rofl.. dont forget their developers.. they prolly like it too ;p
[03:37] <Trixsey> lol
[03:37] <Peacer> thank you ^^ didn't think that would work though *shrugs* simpler than I thought <.<
[03:37] <tom47> headphase ah ok my claculator is recalibrated lol
[03:37] <derder> varkatope : does it only supports file name in 8.3 style
[03:37] <erUSUL> Peacer: add an "stanza" to boot windows in your /boot/grub/menu.lst there is an example in the coments of the file. maybe a simple 'sudo update-grub' could do the trick
[03:37] <IdleOne> Trixsey, I doubt they do but get paid well
[03:38] <headphase> tom47: sda1/2/3 is only up to 89 gb
[03:38] <headphase> tom47: remember, sda1 is only 39 MB
[03:38] <phatrabbit> oh finally i got back here
[03:38] <edlead> anyone knows about att global client ?
[03:38] <IdleOne> wb phatrabbit
[03:38] <tom47> headphase yes i apologise for missing that detail earlier
[03:39] <headphase> tom47: can I create an sda4?
[03:39] <tom47> head phase we will make 3 new partitions
[03:39] <phatrabbit> i was using sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:39] <phatrabbit> and wondering why it didnt work and i realised i had to update my ubuntu
[03:39] <tom47> sda4 will be 1gb and will be the swap partion
[03:39] <IdleOne> phatrabbit, after enabling universe and multiverse right?
[03:39] <headphase> tom47: how do I create an sda4?
[03:40] <tom47> sda 5 will be / and will be the root partition
[03:40] <varkatope> derder: dunno, sry, but don't think so
[03:40] <phatrabbit> nope i am using gaim IM
[03:40] <phatrabbit> how do i enable those
[03:40] <sorush20> can anyone here manage to see writing on this falsh box ? or just a bar graphhttp://www.iii.co.uk/markets/?type=sectors
[03:40] <IdleOne> !repos | phatrabbit
[03:40] <ubotu> phatrabbit: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:40] <varkatope> derder: but spaces and special characters maybe a problem
[03:40] <tom47> headphase highlight the unused space and create a new partition of the right size
[03:40] <derder> than i will create a tarball ;D
[03:41] <derder> then
[03:41] <headphase> tom47: 1024 mb for swap?
[03:41] <tom47> headphase what is the brand and model of computer you havethere?
[03:41] <sebrock> can anyone help me to get azuerus work? I installed on a fresh Ubuntu 6.10 Alternative, and it wont start... just some output in console...
[03:41] <tom47> headphase yep
[03:42] <edlead> anyone uses vpn on ubuntu?
[03:42] <soundray> !vpn | edlead
[03:42] <ubotu> edlead: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[03:42] <headphase> tom47: primary partition for swap?
[03:42] <edlead> sound: does it cover at&t vpn ?
[03:42] <Slart> sebrock: mm.. I got that when installed too... I .. ahem... .. used that other program.. automatix2 .. but you shouldn't.. cause it's bad... but it worked for installing azureus..
[03:43] <Slart> !automatix
[03:43] <soundray> edlead: kindly look for yourself
[03:43] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:43] <edlead> sound: ok thx
[03:43] <Peacer> soundray booting the lines from the example gives me an error "filesystem type unknown"
[03:43] <Slart> sebrock: there is probably a better way though
[03:43] <sebrock> Slart, hehe, I used synapitc
[03:43] <tom47> headphase was just thinking maybe we should make the rest of the hard disk a primamry partition and the within it create logical partitions
[03:43] <Slart> sebrock: I did that first too.. got the same error you get, probably.. can't remember
[03:43] <tanascar> !WorksForMe
[03:43] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:43] <sebrock> Slart, I wonder if its up to java itself that needs update or something
[03:44] <sebrock> Slart, so you say I should install it via automatrix2?
[03:44] <Slart> sebrock: I have no idea.. might be some weird setting that needs to be set... could be another version of azureus
[03:44] <soundray> Peacer: have you substituted the device appropriately?
[03:44] <rojo^> anyone running two nvidia cards SLI?  Whenever I try enabling SLI (Option "SLI" "Auto" in Section "Device"), X freezes the console and never launches; can't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] .  Anyone else encounter this?
[03:44] <tom47> headphase i assume the three partitions you have already are primary partitions
[03:44] <LjL> sebrock: no, he says you shouldn't be using automatix
[03:44] <Peacer> don't know if I have :|
[03:44] <Slart> sebrock: no.. didn't you read what ubuto said? automatix breaks things.. perhaps I was just lucky.. perhaps my install will die tomorrow..
[03:45] <sebrock> LjL, well, I see he says it worked but the program is shit...
[03:45] <headphase> tom47: yes
[03:45] <soundray> Peacer: where is your Windows filesystem located? Something like /dev/hda1 would be typical.
[03:45] <slvmchn> where is menu.list or whatever thef ile is called, for grub?
[03:45] <headphase> tom47: I have a dell inspirion e1405
[03:45] <Peacer> /dev/hda2
[03:45] <rojo^> slvmchn: /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:45] <LjL> sebrock: he's right. see !worksforme
[03:45] <slvmchn> thanks rojo
[03:45] <varkatope> LjL: never trust a script you didn't write to crap yourself *g
[03:45] <tom47> headphase then make aother primary partition of the remaining space and we will created the linux partitions as logical ones within it
[03:45] <sebrock> Slart, I can paste the output if thats any help
[03:45] <Peacer> slvmchn /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:45] <Slart> sebrock: just letting you know I had the same error and that there are ways to get azureus to work..
[03:45] <soundray> Peacer: in the root line, put (hd0,1) instead of (hd0,0)
[03:46] <Slart> sebrock: probably wouldn't help.. but perhaps there is an azureus channel that can help you?
[03:46] <Slart> sebrock: check their site.. see if they offer a deb or something
[03:46] <yettenet> Um
[03:46] <CheshireViking> sebrock, i used automatix when i was starting to use ubuntu - never again, some things worked, other didn't, it ended up breaking my update manager, i ended up doing a complete reinstall
[03:46] <Peacer> I know :p
[03:46] <Peacer> still says it though
[03:46] <sebrock> oh
[03:46] <KaV> Anyone knows how can i find out, in which language an exe (windows) file has been written ????
[03:46] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know a repository with cool games on it?
[03:47] <sebrock> I searched for some info, find it strange that it does not work really
[03:47] <Slart> sebrock: perhaps the version you get from synaptic is fixable... but I wouldn't know where to start
[03:47] <yettenet> I've got some error installing java :P
[03:47] <yettenet> Could anyone help me? :P
[03:47] <soundray> !games | youkilldkennedy
[03:47] <ubotu> youkilldkennedy: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:47] <yettenet> 5 lines of error message... :P
[03:47] <soundray> !pastebin | yettenet
[03:47] <ubotu> yettenet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <youkilldkennedy> Thanks soundray
[03:47] <lukas__> salut
[03:48] <bauer77> ok I did it today, I am solely running Ubuntu right now..lol
[03:48] <headphase> tom47: so in crate an new partition, I have 1024mb as a primary partition with linux-swap file system is that all ok?
[03:48] <tom47> headphase: so sda4 will be an extended partition
[03:48] <sebrock> Slart, Im gonna check later, have to work now :D
[03:48] <soundray> youkilldkennedy: by the way, there is no such thing as a "cool game".
[03:48] <Slart> sebrock: ok.. good luck
[03:48] <lukas__> hi, I search some help for customize my usplash !
[03:48] <tom47> headphase ok hopefully
[03:48] <headphase> tom47: so I need to put extended partition?
[03:48] <sebrock> tnx, its that and the mulimediakeyboard volumes that needs fixing, then Im all set
[03:48] <soundray> !usplash | lukas__
[03:48] <ubotu> lukas__: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:49] <phatrabbit> oh right nar i didnt use Repositories
[03:49] <lukas__> soundray: it's to create one. I did it but I've some troubles with color.
[03:49] <tom47> headphase now that you have done that though we should create an extended partition covering the remaining space on the hard disk
[03:49] <Peacer> soundray got any more suggestions?
[03:49] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5919/
[03:49] <headphase> tom47: I haven't done it yet
[03:50] <headphase> tom47: I think the primary is sda4
[03:50] <tom47> headphase if you have not done it yet than i think sda4 should be an extended partion covering all the spare space on the disk and we wil subdivide that for linux
[03:51] <soundray> lukas__: sorry, no personal experience here
[03:51] <khronus> lo all
[03:51] <soundray> Peacer: can you pastebin your menu.lst pls
[03:51] <headphase> tom47: so I should make the 21 gb an extended partition?
[03:51] <soundray> !pastebin | Peacer
[03:51] <ubotu> Peacer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:51] <lukas__> ok thanks
[03:51] <Peacer> sure
[03:52] <khronus> tried to install ubuntu for first time last night, failed during install so i did the checksum disk check and it failed
[03:52] <Loveubuntu> this Ubuntu Lite it's downs? http://ubuntulite.org/?
[03:52] <khronus> so i re downlaoded and burnt it again from a diff mirror
[03:52] <Loveubuntu> this project http://ubuntulite.org/ it's down?
[03:52] <khronus> and that failed the checksum also
[03:52] <khronus> any ideas?
[03:52] <Pici> khronus: Try burning it at the slowest speed your burner supports, like 2x, sometimes that fixes those sort of issues.
[03:52] <soundray> khronus: check the md5sum of the downloaded image(s).
[03:53] <khronus> ok ty
[03:53] <yettenet> well, anyone for my java installing problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5919/
[03:53] <ntbnnt> khronus: if you're burning from windows, try the trial of alcohol120%
[03:54] <soundray> yettenet: please pastebin your /etc/default/upnpd as well
[03:54] <Peacer> soundray http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5921/ :D
[03:54] <yettenet> sure thing
[03:54] <headphase> tom47: you there?
[03:54] <phatrabbit> is it worth upgrading to Edgy ?
[03:54] <bauer77> how would I run this file ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run
[03:54] <erUSUL> yettenet: the problem is with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5919/
[03:54] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: it's stable... that's it
[03:54] <phatrabbit> ic
[03:55] <erUSUL> yettenet: is with linux-idg not with java
[03:55] <_Jonathan> phatrabbit: no, wait for feisty
[03:55] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: i use dapper for the lts
[03:55] <yettenet> soundray: could you tell me how to "execute" it or such? :P
[03:55] <lordkeiden> what is a simple way to sync folders betweer 2 laptops on a peer-to-peer lan?
[03:55] <Peacer> yettenet try sudo apt-get install linux-igd :)
[03:55] <phatrabbit> yer i use dapper 6.06
[03:55] <Peacer> brb
[03:56] <lordkeiden> big folders, over 2gb
[03:56] <soundray> Peacer: for cosmetics (and avoiding kernel update problems later on) put it after the automagic kernels list
[03:56] <varkatope> lordkeiden: rsync, but it isen that simple i think
[03:56] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: when i used edgy, it was the same damn thing
[03:56] <yettenet> Peacer: It says that it's already installed
[03:56] <soundray> Peacer: what's the exact error you're getting?
[03:56] <tom47> headphase yes
[03:56] <bauer77> how would I run this file ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run  < Anyone?
[03:57] <headphase> tom47: so I should make the 21 gb an extended partition?
[03:57] <soundray> yettenet: retry sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin now
[03:57] <rojo^> bauer77: sudo sh ati<tab>
[03:57] <bauer77> thanks rojo
[03:57] <patrick__> hey i can't log in, i restarted my comouter, and when i put in my credentials it logs in and then comes back to the log in screen
[03:57] <yettenet> The same
[03:57] <patrick__> ive tried all the log in options, but none work
[03:57] <yettenet> Should I reinstall linux-igd?
[03:57] <Peacer> I can't remember... I get it at startup, when I try to boot windows
[03:58] <Peacer> soundray*
[03:58] <IdleOne> yettenet, sudo apt-get -f install linux-igd
[03:58] <tom47> headphase whatever space is left after sda3 make into a single extended partition
[03:58] <lordkeiden> is there a clean way to remove the vista bootloader and go back to grub?
[03:58] <IdleOne> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:59] <yettenet> The smae for your one, IdleOne
[03:59] <yettenet> *same
[03:59] <trelayne> hi all, is it possible to chroot a mounted / filesystem (that is on another bootable HD) so that in some way you can run a program in that context? The other HD has Dapper while my current has Edgy
[03:59] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5923/
[03:59] <headphase> tom47: ok
[03:59] <rojo^> lordkeiden: boot using a rescue disk, chroot to your installed linux "/" partition, mount /boot if needed, and type "grub"
[03:59] <JONES3700> are there any .nzb grabbers that work on ubuntu?
[03:59] <rojo^> lordkeiden: in the grub interactive mode, type "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[04:00] <Peacer> filetype system unknown, partition type 0x7 or something
[04:00] <ntbnnt> lordkeiden: diito rojo^
[04:00] <LjL> root__: service message - IRC as root is a bad idea
[04:00] <Peacer> soundray*
[04:00] <rojo^> lordkeiden: whatever the output of that is, type "root (whatever)"
[04:00] <andy_o> what is the rc.local equivalent for adding commands to be run at shutdown in ubuntu?
[04:00] <IdleOne> yettenet, apt-get autoremove maybe
[04:00] <patrick__> hey i can't log in, i restarted my comouter, and when i put in my credentials it logs in and then comes back to the log in screen...ive tried all the options to login and none will work, any ideas?
[04:00] <rojo^> lordkeiden: then type "setup (hd0)"  (assuming your installation is on hd0).  That'll overwrite the MBR
[04:01] <headphase> tom47: it is now pending
[04:01] <tom47> ok
[04:01] <yettenet> the same... lol
[04:01] <ntbnnt> patrick__: are you getting a graphical login?
[04:01] <IdleOne> yettenet, beats me
[04:01] <soundray> Peacer: are you back in Ubuntu now?
[04:01] <giuseppe> Hi guys, is possible use beryl with metacity theme for windows? thanks
[04:01] <tom47> now establish a partition withinit if 1gb for the swap partition
[04:01] <rojo^> lordkeiden: don't forget to have an entry in /boot/grub/menu.list for Windows.  Make sure you have the line under Windows for "chainloader +1"
[04:01] <headphase> tom47: do I go foward and assingn the swap root and home?
[04:01] <patrick__> ntbnnt: yes i am
[04:01] <yettenet> Bets me either :P
[04:02] <bauer77> what is the command to restart x windows without rebooting?
[04:02] <yettenet> Should I try to remove linux-igd and then reinstall it?
[04:02] <Pici> giuseppe: Yes, you need to install emerald, its a metacity theme engine for beryl
[04:02] <Otacon22> a software to make musical sheet on ubuntu?
[04:02] <rojo^> bauer77: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:02] <tom47> headphase now establish a partition withinit if 1gb for the swap partition
[04:02] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5924/
[04:02] <lordkeiden> Otacon22: denemo
[04:02] <soundray> yettenet: no, please pastebin your /etc/default/upnpd
[04:02] <patrick__> ntbnnt: when it logs in it shows a NVIDA display icon and then brings me rightback to the login screen
[04:02] <giuseppe> Pici where can I found it?
[04:02] <phatrabbit> how can i check if my drivers are up to date
[04:02] <ntbnnt> patrick__: any messages?
[04:02] <rojo^> anyone running two nvidia cards SLI?  Whenever I try enabling SLI (Option "SLI" "Auto" in Section "Device"), X freezes the console and never launches; can't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] .  Anyone else encounter this?
[04:02] <lordkeiden> rojo^: thanks
[04:03] <yettenet> soundray: the content of it or what? :P
[04:03] <patrick__> ntbnnt: nope, none at all after i log in and the NVIDA screen, it brings me back to wehre i enter my username, but no messages
[04:03] <ntbnnt> patrick__: try opening a console and login (Alt+F1)
[04:03] <convergence_> salmut
[04:03] <headphase> tom47: I can only create a new partition on the allocated space within the new partition, Proceed?
[04:03] <soundray> yettenet: if you want my help, stop pulling my leg.
[04:04] <giuseppe> Pici shall I add some repositories?
[04:04] <patrick__> ntbnnt: nothing comes up when i pess alt+F1
[04:04] <tom47> headphase my guess is the swap partition number is sda5 .... yes
[04:04] <convergence__> salut
[04:04] <Pici> giuseppe: I'm sorry, its called heliodor, not emerald.  How did you install beryl?
[04:04] <goundy> convergence_, yo
[04:04] <shiv> novacaine: Are u a doctoe?
[04:04] <nexousNET> When I'm in Mplayer,
[04:04] <goundy> convergence_, #ubuntu-fr pour le channel franais
[04:04] <headphase> tom47: it is a logical partition
[04:04] <tom47> yes
[04:05] <dooglus> ntbnnt: did you mean control+alt+F1?
[04:05] <nexousNET> whoops... When I'm in Mplayer, when I go to fullscreen, why doesn't it stretch out the video?
[04:05] <ntbnnt> wooo
[04:05] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:05] <tom47> headphase now make the other two artitions
[04:05] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5926/ <--- here you go, I really don't know what you wanted
[04:05] <dooglus> ntbnnt: and if so, shouldn't you tell him how to get back to his X session?
[04:05] <Seveas> LjL, ?
[04:05] <Seveas> ah :)
[04:05] <ntbnnt> dooglus: y don't you then, hmmm?
[04:05] <LjL> Seveas: i removed mine, since it was narrower anyway
[04:05] <Peacer> soundray yep back in ubuntu
[04:05] <goundy> guys i've a problem
[04:05] <goundy> goundy@GLaptop:~/coding/bashanagi$ fglrxinfo
[04:05] <goundy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:06] <soundray> Peacer: please run 'sudo fdisk -l' and pastebin the output
[04:06] <shiv> nexousNET: Just right click on screen and see optons
[04:06] <goundy> what does this mean?
[04:06] <Seveas> yeah, just realised that
[04:06] <ntbnnt> dooglus: he's getting the graphical login but when it wants to display the desktop it crashes
[04:06] <headphase> tom47: now do I create home and root logical partitions as ext3?
[04:06] <ntbnnt> dooglus: bypass the desktop, the goal is access
[04:06] <giuseppe> Pici I added the repositories and i typed sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[04:06] <mzuverink> Im installing postfix and am using via dsl with a dyndns dns, do I choose internet site, internet w/ smarthost, or what?
[04:07] <nexousNET> shiv: It goes to full screen, I'm just saying that the video is just wrapped around black space.
[04:07] <nexousNET> shiv: I want the video to actually stretch, not have a wrapper around it.
[04:07] <patrick__> any ideas?
[04:07] <tom47> headphase yuo use the format to options
[04:07] <shiv> nexousNET: LEt me see one, hold on
[04:07] <bauer77> can somebody help me install my ati drivers. I ran the installer from the ati website, but am still no getting graphics acceleration. I remember before I had to do something but dont remember what.
[04:07] <goundy> bauer77, i've the same problem :/
[04:07] <ntbnnt> patrick__: try opening a console and login (control+alt+f1) then you can switch back to your grapical login using con+alt+f7
[04:07] <yettenet> Well, soundray? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5926/ <--- here is the thing, but I really don't know what you wanted
[04:08] <Pici> giuseppe: Okay, so just `sudo apt-get install heliodor` for the Metacity themer.
[04:08] <ntbnnt> bauer77: what card?
[04:08] <Peacer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5929/
[04:08] <mzuverink> bauer77, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:08] <Peacer> soundray*
[04:08] <giuseppe> Pici thanks :D
[04:08] <bauer77> I had fixed it before, and I think I had to change fglrx
[04:08] <headphase> tom47: should I make both the same size?
[04:08] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:08] <bauer77> mzuverink: Ati Radeon Mobility 9700
[04:08] <mzuverink> anyone with an answer for that postfix q?
[04:08] <tom47> headphase circa 10gb is ok to begin with
[04:08] <ntbnnt> bauer77: try command, aticonfig --inital
[04:09] <soundray> yettenet: consider reading your error messages carefully, maybe then you'll understand
[04:09] <shiv> nexousNET: I do not have a video file to test, I always use movieplayer (Totem) instead of that one without any probs
[04:09] <patrick__> ntbnnt: it loged in that way
[04:09] <yettenet> I see
[04:09] <nexousNET> shiv: I can't use Totem, because only Mplayer will play my .wmv files.
[04:09] <giuseppe> Pici excuse me, I have another problem, I'm italian but when I try to write on ubuntu-it the answer is : #ubuntu-it :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel, but in past I wrote a lot in this channel...what happened?
[04:10] <yettenet> The one under the ----------- is the content of upnpd
[04:10] <ntbnnt> patrick__: sounds like its a problem with your graphics drivers
[04:10] <shiv> nexousNET: I see, let me download a few from the net ant give it a try
[04:10] <nexousNET> okay.
[04:10] <patrick__> ntbnnt: how can i fix that?
[04:10] <soundray> yettenet: edit your /etc/default/upnpd according to the changes I posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5932/ -- then run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[04:11] <ntbnnt> patrick__: errr... i'm no expert in that, but you can tell people that you can login via the console
[04:11] <headphase> tom47: does it automatically assign swap since it is in linux-swap format?
[04:11] <bauer77> who gave me the ati --initial command?
[04:11] <yettenet> thx, soundray, I'll be back in a minute
[04:11] <patrick__> ntbnnt: thanks for the help in finding out what it was
[04:11] <ntbnnt> patrick__: might help
[04:11] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a LAME package for 6.10?
[04:11] <ntbnnt> bauer77: me?
[04:11] <usuario> e
[04:11] <fredl> hi, I'm trying to create a yum repository on an Ubuntu 6.10 server...
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: did, it crash on you?
[04:12] <bauer77> ntbnnt: Thanks, that resolved my issue, what exactly does that do
[04:12] <[miles] > good afternoon #ubuntu
[04:12] <usuario> IRENE
[04:12] <LjL> usuario: ?
[04:12] <Pici> giuseppe: They probably had a problem with people spamming the channel.  See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup for instructions on how to register.
[04:12] <patrick__> anyone know how to fix a graphics driver issue via a console login?
[04:12] <[miles] > guys, can anyone recommend a good XML editor please?
[04:12] <tom47> headphase ummmm no i think it has to be mounted as /swap
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: oh, good, it writes the default configuration files
[04:12] <soundray> Peacer: is your Windows partition fat32?
[04:12] <yettenet> I could've thought about it... thx, soundray... now I'm gonna try that java installing again :P
[04:12] <giuseppe> Pici thanks a lot ;)
[04:12] <fredl> I understand this is done with 'yum-arch', but when I type this on my Ubuntu box, it gives an error message: ImportError: No module named urlgrabber
[04:12] <headphase> tom47: got it
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: its a must
[04:12] <[miles] > and MLview bombs out often on my 64bit Ubuntu
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: easy to miss though ;p
[04:13] <capsaicin> #linux
[04:13] <fredl> I have python-urlgrabber installed though, so this error message makes no sense to me.
[04:13] <tom47> headphone hmmm looks like i am wrong
[04:13] <dooglus> tom47: you don't mount swap partitions.  you 'swapon' them
[04:13] <Peacer> soundray ntfs
[04:13] <phatrabbit> does anyone know how i can check if i have installed the latest Nvidia drivers
[04:13] <novacaine> how can I see a jpg in the shell?
[04:13] <tom47> headphase looks like i am wrong sorry abt nick
[04:13] <dooglus> novacaine: 'ls file.jpg'
[04:13] <bauer77> I had done it before but had forgotten, and that command didnt work before..
[04:14] <Kilroy> hello everyone
[04:14] <shiv> nexousNET: I downloaded this movie http://www.jhepple.com/support/SampleMovies/WindowsMedia.wmv and it plays fine without borders in mplayer for me
[04:14] <headphase> tom47: no, you were right
[04:14] <derder> i hate my notebook
[04:14] <bauer77> patrick__: your having the same issue?
[04:14] <nexousNET> shiv: what version do you have?
[04:14] <novacaine> dooglus: I want to display it...
[04:14] <patrick__> same issure?
[04:14] <dooglus> novacaine: in a shell?
[04:14] <soundray> Peacer: try mounting it with 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt'
[04:14] <bauer77> with ati?
[04:14] <patrick__> what do you mean bauer77?
[04:14] <Pici> novacaine: in a terminal ?
[04:14] <shiv> nexousNET: Hold on its kaffeine thats playing it
[04:14] <soundray> novacaine: gnome-open file.jpg
[04:14] <novacaine> dooglus, Pici: yes
[04:15] <lordkeiden> why do the wmv files i watch smear colors all over the video window? this happens in xine, mplayer, and kaffene.
[04:15] <shiv> nexousNET: not the mplayer
[04:15] <dooglus> novacaine: you might find that mplayer can do some kind of ascii-art translation of it
[04:15] <nexousNET> shiv: hold on, ill give kaffeine a shot
[04:15] <bard> lordkeiden, use vlc
[04:15] <ntbnnt> bauer77: patrick__ has nvida
[04:15] <Kilroy>  what is ur guys favorite ftp program for linux? as a client
[04:15] <bauer77> ah ok
[04:15] <soundray> Kilroy: ncftp
[04:15] <Andy_o> ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/04 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/   ---> is this a bad error message to get on dmesg?
[04:15] <patrick__> ohh yes sorry i wasn't following the other conversations
[04:15] <Andy_o> I get a bunch of those
[04:15] <bauer77> patrick__: Understood
[04:15] <Andy_o>  ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[04:15] <bard> Kilroy, kftpgrabber
[04:15] <Dasnipa`> Kilroy, sftp
[04:16] <soundray> Peacer: does that come back with any errors?
[04:16] <ntbnnt> i ran these initial configuration commands for my x1600
[04:16] <ntbnnt> bauer77: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx | sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:16] <HymnToLife> Kilroy, Konqueror :p
[04:16] <Kilroy> lol
[04:17] <Peacer> soundray yes
[04:17] <nexousNET> shiv: kaffeine is only for KDE? :/
[04:17] <yettenet> soundray: It seems like it worked, thanks :)
[04:18] <ntbnnt> patrick__: you might try that first command sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:18] <Peacer> soundray wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2 missing codepage or other error, in some cases useful info is found in syuslog try dmesg | tail or so
[04:18] <ntbnnt> patrick__: do it from the console after logging in
[04:18] <phatrabbit> does anyone know where to un .tar.gz Adobe flash
[04:18] <Firebird8> hello, how do you delete a menu in the menu editor?
[04:18] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me set up a launcher?
[04:19] <novacaine> dooglus: i can use ascii art with mplayer using aalib as video output..but mplayer don't want to open jpg files :P
[04:19] <Peacer> I chosed ntfs (fast) when I partitioned the rest of my diskspace for windoez with the windoez cd
[04:19] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: anywhere
[04:19] <phatrabbit> its ok ig ot it thanks
[04:19] <fredl> can anybody here see the createrepo package? (apt-cache search createrepo)
[04:19] <FireHazard17> wheels3572: what version are you using
[04:19] <wheels3572> Firebird8, im running Xubuntu 6.10
[04:19] <secureboot> how does one install from a usb drive?  If I have an .iso, how do i make that into something I can put on a usb drive?  do i have to format the drive in any special way?
[04:20] <FireHazard17> wheels3572: idk using xfce
[04:20] <patrick__> ntbnnt:it said i had some packages that i could remove, its doing that, but i have to go thank you so much for your help
[04:20] <patrick__> if that doesnt work ill beback later!
[04:20] <secureboot> surely, there must be a good link out there somewhere
[04:20] <soundray> Peacer: just for sanity, try 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt'
[04:20] <CrakeHunter> hello, a quick question on security. a friend of mine thinks that linux is not as safe as windows because everyone can have a look at the source code and see the "backdoors". is that true?
[04:20] <ntbnnt> patrick__: cool, hope that does help
[04:21] <wheels3572> Firebird8, ok.  I was just trying to figure out how to associate an HTML file with Firefox using a launcher
[04:21] <Peacer> same error message
[04:21] <ntbnnt> secureboot: you should see the wikis on booting linux from usb
[04:21] <Pici> fredl: No, that doesnt look like a valid package name/descriptor
[04:21] <fredl> anybody here using Feisty? please check if you see createrepo (apt-cache search createrepo)
[04:21] <Firebird8> wheels3572, FireHazard17
[04:21] <erUSUL> CrakeHunter: "security by obscurity is long time ago debunked myth" by me
[04:21] <tkamppeter> Someone knows the usual way under Ubuntu to configure X if one has connected a new monitor?
[04:21] <FireHazard17> yeah
[04:21] <fredl> Pici - you on edgy or feisty?
[04:21] <LjL> CrakeHunter: yes. however, the opposite is true as well: everybody can look at the source, so there are many eyes that can *spot* backdoors and report them quickly, so that they can be fixed ASAP. on closed-source, you can have backdoors unspotted for ages
[04:21] <Peacer> soundray same error message (with fancy colours)
[04:21] <ntbnnt> secureboot: that's how i did it, followed the wikis
[04:22] <secureboot> ntbnnt: haven't been able to find wikis - which are you referring to?
[04:22] <CrakeHunter> ok, so it is not completely wrong, thanks guys!
[04:22] <Pici> fredl: I'm on edgy, packages.ubuntu.com says that createrepo should exist in universe on fiesty
[04:22] <ntbnnt> secureboot: let me grab 'em
[04:22] <wheels3572> FireHazard17, sorry I sent that to the wrong person lol
[04:22] <Pici> fredl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/admin/createrepo
[04:22] <tijn> hi all
[04:22] <fredl> tnx Pici
[04:22] <wheels3572> Firebird8, sorry bout that didn't realize there were 2 fires lol
[04:22] <[OG] 6ton> any1 know were i can get winndows xp for free.. going to test dual boot
[04:22] <royel_> CrakeHunter: stuff like that would be discovered an shutdown pretty quick, since it is open source, if any one were to have the potential for what you describe, I would suggest it to be the "other" OS since it is closed an you can't see whats in the code.
[04:22] <Shaffox> [OG] 6ton: legally, you you can't
[04:22] <Pici> [OG] 6ton: Try asking in ##windows
[04:22] <erUSUL> [OG] 6ton: warez no allowed here
[04:23] <Dr_willis> [OG] 6ton,  go get a copy of freedoss its more fun.
[04:23] <tijn> how do i install gd? cant find the correct package, and the prog i want to use it for isnt very clear about it
[04:23] <Shaffox> [OG] 6ton: don' dualboot , stick to linux :p
[04:23] <ntbnnt> secureboot: what distro, ubuntu?
[04:23] <[OG] 6ton> Shaffox need to play ... css :D dont think linux is good at that?
[04:23] <[OG] 6ton> or am i wrong?
[04:23] <ardchoille> [OG] 6ton: My idea of dual-boot is Ubuntu and Kbuntu or Ubuntu and Xubuntu ;)
[04:23] <Shaffox> [OG] 6ton: yes it is
[04:23] <CrakeHunter> ok
[04:24] <secureboot> yeah
[04:24] <soundray> Peacer: there is a program called ntfsfix in the ntfsprogs package. I would try that.
[04:24] <FireHazard17> yeah freedos is free
[04:24] <FireHazard17> xp is illegal
[04:24] <HymnToLife> ardchoille, why dual boot twice the same thing ?
[04:24] <Shaffox> !wine | [OG] 6ton
[04:24] <bulmer> [OG] 6ton: if you are in a junior college in the US...you can buy them or have them nearly free use for six months..ask around..they have student version
[04:24] <ubotu> [OG] 6ton: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:24] <secureboot> ntbnnt: yes, ubuntu
[04:24] <ntbnnt> k
[04:24] <Pici> tijn: For perl?
[04:24] <Peacer> soundray thank you for your help, I'll try that, is that package with the default ubuntu install or do I have to apt-get it `?
[04:24] <geek> hi
[04:24] <Firebird8> did someone forget the delete button on the menu editor?
[04:24] <FireHazard17> but XP sucks ass
[04:25] <ardchoille> HymnToLife: Ok, Ubuntu and Mepis?
[04:25] <tijn> Pici, really dont now, it says GD version : NO
[04:25] <soundray> Peacer: apt-get it
[04:25] <FireHazard17> i despise m$
[04:25] <Shaffox> secureboot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:25] <soundray> !ohmy | FireHazard17
[04:25] <ubotu> FireHazard17: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:25] <tijn> Pici, found it! it wanted php4-gd :S
[04:25] <FireHazard17> soooooorrrrryyyy
[04:25] <[OG] 6ton> hmm.. but its true that i cant ply games in linus without wine or something like that.. :)
[04:25] <dooglus> novacaine: you can convert the .jpg to .avi and then to ascii maybe?
[04:25] <CheshireViking> I have a multi-boot system, 2 of which are Ubuntu - one to use and a 2nd copy to test updates/installs beforei do them on my primary system - not so much synaptic updates, but non-repo packages etc
[04:25] <bulmer> with out  problems in XP lots of us dont have work to fix them...so let em be.. :)
[04:26] <soundray> novacaine: you could also try printing it
[04:26] <FireHazard17> i like beryl
[04:26] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:27] <hossasaur> hello, i need a little help with driver install
[04:27] <HymnToLife> and gamepads :p
[04:27] <tom47> headphase how are you going there
[04:27] <Luis07> the new driver from nvidia doesn't show the "nvidia logo" on boot anymore?
[04:27] <IdleOne> FireHazard17, this isnt a We hate Microsoft Channel. perhaps a blog would be better suited for your hatred :)
[04:27] <FireHazard17> yeah they'rent bad
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Vilhelms,  what if you just move the mouse around? it likd scrolls a larger desktop?
[04:27] <hossasaur> i'm attempting to install drivers for my intel pro/100 3945abg wireless card
[04:27] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, they should be there by default
[04:27] <tkamppeter> Some X expert here?
[04:28] <ntbnnt> secureboot: i did it with debian, it may work the same, i dunno
[04:28] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: it detected my wireless, but i can't connect
[04:28] <HymnToLife> tkamppeter, assume there is and ask your question
[04:28] <soundray> tkamppeter: dime a dozen
[04:28] <hossasaur> so i assumed it was a driver thing
[04:28] <Vilhelms> Dr_willis, No, only clicking on it does it
[04:28] <ntbnnt> secureboot: http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb
[04:28] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, it's most likely not, why can't you connect ?
[04:32] <IdleOne> FireHazard17, please talk in here or #ubuntu-offtopic and no this isnt basicaly a Microsoft hate channel by any means
[04:32] <Vilhelms> Dr_willis, And it only moves about 5 px up, and then 5 px down
[04:32] <rickympl> i have 2gb swap and 1gb ram, however my ram is almost full and the swap harldy used, is this normal?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> Vilhelms,  odd...
[04:32] <FireHazard17> ok ok
[04:32] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me what woudl stop an HTML file from not even loading when you press on firefox?
[04:32] <Vilhelms> Dr_willis, I would agree, it is odd =\
[04:32] <soundray> rickympl: yes
[04:32] <hossasaur> well, i haven't ran linux in 10 years, so i guess that's my problem
[04:32] <Dr_willis> rickympl,  yes.. why would you swap when you got ram free. :)
[04:32] <secureboot> rickympl: yes - that is normal and good
[04:32] <IdleOne> Ubuntu does not claim to Hate Microsoft on any of theyre official sites
[04:32] <tkamppeter> I have bought a 22" widescreen monitor and I am connecting it to a laptop. Now I want to configure X to use the monitor's 1600x1050 resolution. How do I do this in Ubuntu?
[04:32] <FireHazard17> buuut no on is talking in offtopic
[04:32] <HymnToLife> rickympl, yes, in Linux, unused RAM is wasted RAM
[04:32] <secureboot> rickympl: swap is really, really slow, so it shouldn't be used unless absolutely necessary
[04:32] <hossasaur> if i go to system=>admin tools=>network settings, it sees a wireless connection
[04:32] <Pici> !fixres | tkamppeter
[04:32] <ubotu> tkamppeter: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:32] <IdleOne> FireHazard17, talkl and they will respond
[04:32] <pukeko> i need to mount a LVM disk on a non LVM system .. how do i do it /
[04:32] <soundray> rickympl: Linux is very good at making the best use of your hardware. It uses RAM for buffer space.
[04:32] <pukeko> *?
[04:32] <FireHazard17> ok fine
[04:32] <Peacer> soundray sudo ntfsfix /dev/hda2 fails to mount it :S
[04:32] <HymnToLife> the amout of RAM your programs don't use is udes for caching
[04:32] <Dr_willis> of course go ask Microsoft why they do it the other way...
[04:32] <royel_> FireHazard17: you could be the first then
[04:32] <hossasaur> but when i type in my ssid/key, it doesn't connect
[04:32] <ntbnnt> secureboot: some of the links may also point you in the right direction, you may have to be invenful
[04:32] <soundray> Peacer: I don't know much about ntfsfix -- I would read the manpage at this point
[04:32] <FireHazard17> no ubuntu doesn't hate ms there has to be a reason to use linux
[04:32] <rickympl> ok, thank you all for your answers
[04:32] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: if i go to system=>admin tools=>network settings, it sees a wireless connection
[04:32] <Peacer> ok ^^
[04:32] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: but when i type in my ssid/key, it doesn't connect
[04:32] <Peacer> afk
[04:32] <Bill_Gates> I love Linux!
[04:32] <FireHazard17> well it is a better OS
[04:32] <ntbnnt> omg
[04:32] <hossasaur> ha
[04:32] <gnopper> can somebody link me the deb of gaim 2beta6???
[04:32] <wheels3572> Maybe this can help. Failed to execute child process "/home/wheels/index" (No such file or directory)
[04:32] <Firebird8> gnopper, compile it
[04:32] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, try to configure it from command-line and see if it works f rom there
[04:32] <tkamppeter> Thanks, ubotu, I searched the Ubuntu forums before and there was no help.
[04:32] <gnopper> it is difficoult.... i'm busy ;)
[04:32] <FireHazard17> ubotu is a bot
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[04:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:32] <petepete> how can i extract from command line,  a specific folder in a bz2 archive ?
[04:32] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: how do you do connect from the terminal?
[04:33] <tanascar> Reinstalling now.. setting up a separate partition for root and home, what is a good size to make the root partition? I assume I should leave most the space for my home..  I have a 250gb drive.
[04:33] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, sudo iwconfig YOUR_IF essid YOUR_ESSID key YOUR_WEP_KEY
[04:33] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, and then sudo dhclient YOUR_IF if you want to use dhcp
[04:33] <unop> petepete,  man tar (the flag you want is --include i think)
[04:33] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:33] <dooglus> novacaine: did you try ! caca-utils ?
[04:34] <Firebird8> gnopper, download the rpm and use alien to convert it to a deb
[04:34] <dooglus> ! caca-utils
[04:34] <ubotu> caca-utils: text mode graphics utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-6 (edgy), package size 126 kB, installed size 324 kB
[04:34] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: thanks, but what's IF?
[04:34] <gnopper> great!!!
[04:34] <gnopper> i try
[04:34] <unop> hossasaur,  interface
[04:34] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, InterFace, the identifier of your interface, eth1, wlan0, whatever
[04:34] <HymnToLife> you can find it by typing iwconfig alone
[04:34] <phatrabbit> lol!
[04:34] <phatrabbit> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[04:34] <hossasaur> thanks
[04:35] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: there's no wireless extensions
[04:35] <HymnToLife> oh
[04:35] <HymnToLife> on all of them ?
[04:35] <hossasaur> yes
[04:35] <soundray> tanascar: I use 2 GB for root on specialized installations (office machine) and 10 GB for experimental machines where I will try loads of different packages
[04:35] <HymnToLife> your wireless isn't detected then
[04:36] <tanascar> soundray: thanks
[04:36] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, try        sudo modprobe ipw3945
[04:36] <hossasaur> wait, nevermind
[04:36] <hossasaur> there is
[04:36] <hossasaur> i mistook it for nic
[04:36] <hossasaur> do i have to put the essid into quotes?
[04:36] <r00tintheb0x> Hey, when i connect 2 unix machines together... with a crossover cable and each machine has 1 NIC. What should the eth configuration be?
[04:36] <HymnToLife> if it is more than one word (e.g My Network), yes
[04:37] <HymnToLife> if not (MyNetwork), you can omit them
[04:37] <HymnToLife> but putting them won't hurt
[04:37] <hossasaur> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a)
[04:38] <ntbnnt> is there a clean way to uninstall firefox from ubuntu
[04:38] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, you don't want to
[04:38] <dooglus> novacaine: did you try installing and running 'bb'?  It just broke my brain
[04:38] <dooglus> ! bb
[04:38] <ubotu> bb: ASCII-art demo based on AAlib. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3rc1-7 (edgy), package size 1166 kB, installed size 1832 kB
[04:38] <ntbnnt> i want to replace it fully with opera
[04:38] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: got this: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a)
[04:38] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, use Opera then, but don't remove Firefox
[04:38] <hossasaur> thanks for the help, btw
[04:38] <HymnToLife> that's asking for trouble
[04:39] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, what is the command you typed ?
[04:39] <Enselic`> I have my wireless setup for WPA now, how hard is WPA nets to crack?
[04:39] <hossasaur> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "XXXXXX" key "XXXXXX"
[04:39] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, don't put the key between quotes
[04:39] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:39] <ntbnnt> no, i want to
[04:39] <rickympl> anyone here know how to create an fserv using xchat? i tried osbidian2, but i keep getting a connection refused when trying to connect, is there any special port that has to be opened?
[04:39] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: i didn't the first time
[04:40] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, I repeat, you don't want to, that's asking for trouble
[04:40] <ntbnnt> hymntolife: i didn't think it was clean... :p
[04:41] <goundy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5934/
[04:41] <goundy> wtf?
[04:41] <HymnToLife> goundy, do you have correct drivers installed for your card ?
[04:42] <ntbnnt> hymntolife: yea, the wrapper that opera uses in linux is almost dependant anyway and yea, i was just wondering if it could be done clean...
[04:42] <meisam> hi, does anybody know how i can install tomcat apache and configure it, i need it very urgently guys
[04:42] <goundy> correct drivers? what does this mean?
[04:42] <meisam> )
[04:42] <meisam> :)
[04:42] <sdac221x_> hi do you guys recommend i use ATI open-source driver or fglrx for my ATI X1300 ?
[04:42] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, it can't, in Ubuntu at least
[04:42] <goundy> so i've installed the ATI propri DRIVERS
[04:42] <soundray> meisam: sudo apt-get install tomcat5
[04:42] <[nvc] lexx> hi all
[04:42] <HymnToLife> lots of things in Ubuntu depend on FF
[04:42] <hexidigital> meisam:  not sure about tomcat, but apache help can be found in #apache
[04:42] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: any ideas?
[04:43] <goundy> HymnToLife, ?
[04:43] <dooglus> sdac221x_: I have to use fglrx for my X1600 mobility, if that helps...
[04:43] <HymnToLife> that's the reason FF 2.0 didn't get backported for Dapper <=
[04:43] <ntbnnt> hymntolife: yea
[04:43] <meisam> soundray  i need 5.5 can i write  sudo apt-get install tomcat5.5 ?
[04:43] <soundray> meisam: yes
[04:43] <ntbnnt> sdac221x__: yea, use fglrx
[04:43] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:43] <soundray> meisam: if you're on edgy, that is
[04:43] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, no, can't help you further, sorry
[04:44] <sdac221x_> dooglus:  i used fglrx but never was able to get beryl working
[04:44] <stuntgp2000> hi everybody :)
[04:44] <goundy> HymnToLife, do you know what I can do to repar this shit ?
[04:44] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: thanks for the previous help
[04:44] <soundray> meisam: consider also the tomcat5.5-admin and tomcat5.5-webapps packages
[04:44] <sdac221x_> beryl would simple change back to normal theme, when i try to apply the beryl theme. so i thought it may be related to graphic drivers
[04:44] <HymnToLife> goundy, what card do you have and what driver are you using for it ?
[04:44] <meisam> soundray it said : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:44] <dooglus> sdac221x_: I had beryl working with it, but it's not worth the effort really.  it's not very stable yet.
[04:44] <wojtek> www
[04:44] <goundy> HymnToLife, ati radeon X86
[04:45] <goundy> drivers: ati proprio. (most recent one)
[04:45] <xstasi> hi
[04:45] <goundy> oups
[04:45] <HymnToLife> don't know much abour Ati cr... stuff (^____^), sorry
[04:45] <goundy> ATI Radeon X700
[04:45] <xstasi> # cryptsetup -v create home /dev/hda3
[04:45] <xstasi> Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver
[04:45] <sdac221x_> dooglus: is it not stable because of beryl itself or fglrx
[04:45] <xstasi> is this normal?
[04:45] <soundray> meisam: did it say anything about the package not being available?
[04:45] <xstasi> what does it want?
[04:45] <meisam> soundray on port 8080 it does not show up
[04:45] <ntbnnt> sdac221x__: don't think so...
[04:45] <dooglus> sdac221x_: I don't know.  I've only ever tried it on this one machine.
[04:45] <meisam> no no
[04:45] <goundy> ok HymnToLife thanks
[04:45] <stuntgp2000> does anyone know how can I call RSSOwl from Firefox ?
[04:45] <sdac221x_> oh ok.  alright then thanks
[04:46] <goundy> Anyone know about ATI stuf? >>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5934/
[04:46] <meisam> soundray the problem is that it does not show up on 8080 port
[04:46] <ntbnnt> did someone say ati>
[04:46] <soundray> meisam: slowly
[04:46] <tdbrown2> how do I do the alien?
[04:46] <ntbnnt> goundy: i'll see what i can do
[04:46] <soundray> meisam: we have to make sure it's installed first. Can you do a 'cd /usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5/'?
[04:46] <goundy> ntbnnt, thank you very much dude
[04:47] <Spokodzieciak> Witam Wszystkich jestem nwy, potrzebuje mp3 karaoke lub cos w tym stylu z piosenkami miosnymi na walentynki ... prosze od odp. bede z 5 min
[04:47] <Spokodzieciak> Dziki ;-)
[04:47] <soundray> !pl
[04:47] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:48] <applenux> hello
[04:48] <ntbnnt> goundy: what kind of laptop u got...
[04:48] <soundray> meisam: is it installed?
[04:48] <xstasi> ok, found
[04:49] <xstasi> modprobe dm-crypt
[04:49] <xstasi> bye
[04:49] <goundy> ntbnnt, an ACER Aspire 5020
[04:49] <ntbnnt> knew it :)
[04:49] <goundy> ntbnnt, cpu: AMD Turion 64 (but i'm under a 32bit system)
[04:49] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:49] <goundy> ^^
[04:49] <royel_> Vilhelms: has it worked properly in the past, or has it been this way since installing Xubuntu initially?
[04:50] <Solarion> when will the updates to fix module loading be uploaded (feisty)?
[04:50] <Vilhelms> royel_, I just installed xubuntu and its doing this. Gnome worked fine, and it only does it if i run in the xubuntu session
[04:50] <Solarion> it'd be nice to have sound and pcmcia again.
[04:50] <ntbnnt> goundy: dapper or edgy
[04:50] <Vilhelms> royel_, also I'm running in Xgl, I'm not sure if that could be causing the issue but I'm running beryl along with xfce
[04:50] <goundy> ntbnnt, dapper :-] 
[04:50] <tjtansey> can anyone help me with how to install applications from source?
[04:50] <ntbnnt> sweet
[04:50] <meisam> soundray i can do that
[04:50] <mackinac> !compile
[04:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:51] <meisam> it is full installed
[04:51] <applenux> hello i need help for my ppc
[04:51] <meisam> soundray it is installed
[04:51] <dooglus> rickympl: you'll probably find that you RAM is only full due to the file cache.
[04:51] <dooglus> rickympl: there's no point using swap for the filecache.
[04:52] <applenux> what is url for flash plugin for Mozilla Browser on Ubuntu PPC ?
[04:52] <dooglus> rickympl: run 'free' in a terminal to see how much memory is really used, and how much is just buffers and cache
[04:52] <soundray> meisam: okay, in that directory, you'll find some docs. Check out README.Debian first.
[04:52] <royel_> Vilhelms: I have no experience with xfce, I thought maybe you had some key stuck on your keyboard, but if it works fine in gnome then that can't be the problem
[04:53] <soundray> meisam: consider also the tomcat5.5-admin and tomcat5.5-webapps packages (sry repeat, not sure if you saw it)
[04:53] <ntbnnt> goundy: im thinking that this should work
[04:53] <ReKlipz> yo, in beryl / compiz, how do i make the windows fold so i can see whuts behind it?
[04:53] <goundy> :/
[04:53] <goundy> ntbnnt, but i don't yet :/
[04:53] <ardchoille> !tomcat
[04:53] <ntbnnt> goundy: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx | sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <daveyates> maximize the window first ReKlipz
[04:53] <hossasaur> i'm having trouble
[04:53] <ardchoille> What is tomcat?
[04:53] <tjtansey> thanks I'll see if that gets me anywhere
[04:53] <hossasaur> connecting to my wireless network
[04:53] <dooglus> ! tomcat
[04:54] <soundray> !tomcat5.5 | ardchoille
[04:54] <ReKlipz> daveyates, dig it, thx
[04:54] <ubotu> ardchoille: tomcat5.5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.5.17-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 340 kB
[04:54] <hossasaur> in gnome, i type in my essid, key, and it keeps saying "disconnected"
[04:54] <ardchoille> soundray: Ah, thanks
[04:54] <ntbnnt> goundy: thats configuration errors for sure, acceleration isn't being happy with your system
[04:54] <goundy> ntbnnt, no :/
[04:54] <daveyates> np ReKlipz
[04:54] <ReKlipz> how to get compiz to autostart?
[04:54] <goundy> ntbnnt, all this is already done :/
[04:54] <ntbnnt> just do the aticonfig --initial command
[04:54] <Pici> !effects
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <soundray> !compiz | ReKlipz
[04:54] <ubotu> ReKlipz: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:55] <ReKlipz> thx
 maximize the window first ReKlipz <== then what?
[04:55] <goundy> ntbnnt, goundy@GLaptop:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:55] <goundy> Found fglrx primary device section
[04:55] <goundy> Nothing to do, terminating.
[04:55] <ntbnnt> goundy: eya
[04:55] <goundy> lol
[04:55] <ReKlipz> Lunar_Lamp, then just resize a corner
[04:55] <ntbnnt> goundy: okay
[04:55] <ntbnnt> goundy: bear with me
[04:55] <royel_> Vilhelms: are you able to use the "right-click" menu?
[04:55] <goundy> ntbnnt, to bear = ??
[04:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ReKlipz, huh? How do you resize a window when it's maximized?
[04:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ReKlipz, ah, ok, I get you, sorry.
[04:56] <sdac221x_> hi when i open some settings screens for some extensions in firefox... i get the setting screen window frame but nothing inside it except white.   any ideas ?
[04:56] <ykrana> nothing comes from the word jolt in white capitals with me n spaz?
[04:56] <ntbnnt> goundy: okay, try forcing it
[04:56] <ykrana> mark try :d
[04:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ReKlipz, it doesn't need to be a corner though - will work on any of the straight edges - I was misinterpreting what you were talking about.
[04:57] <ykrana> reklipz, ah, ok, i think he's swedish chick
[04:57] <ntbnnt> goundy: sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:57] <ykrana> goundy: okay, try forcing it clean?
[04:57] <armadill0> Hi guys.  Sound isn't recording in Edgy for me.  I can hear my voice in the speakers, I've checked in alsamixer that I'm not muted, but KRec (and other programs) can't "hear" the sound from the mic.  I'm using onboard sound on a VIA 8237.  Does anyone have any idea what to do?
[04:57] <ykrana> eat voice anarky!!!
[04:57] <goundy> ntbnnt, hum I think that acceleration worked with the generic drivers include in the dapper cd installation. How to restaure them?
[04:57] <ykrana> dont ban him stuff hes supposed to include an option to +v
[04:57] <Vilhelms> royel_, I can right-click, and I can use the menu. Right clicking also makes the desktop move
[04:57] <ykrana> so did that with the rest of the recycle bin across the 3d desktop
[04:57] <applenux> what is url for flash plugin for Mozilla Browser on Ubuntu PPC ?
[04:57] <ykrana> like ubuntu computer, can anyone willing to help?
[04:57] <goundy> i'll try the forcing, minute
[04:57] <ntbnnt> goundy: that command i gave you
[04:57] <ykrana> but i'll tell a database server is unfortunately, the similarly named database server and powerful
[04:57] <goundy> goundy@GLaptop:~$ sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:57] <goundy> Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[04:57] <goundy> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <goundy> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-1
[04:57] <ykrana> goundy: sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:58] <ykrana> goundy: sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:58] <soundray> !ops
[04:58] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:58] <ykrana> its only flat file
[04:58] <mackinac> looks like a bot got in
[04:58] <goundy> ykrana, Done
[04:58] <ykrana> novoca1n is relegated to let/    windows linux
[04:58] <goundy> but it still won't work
[04:58] <DBO> soundray?
[04:58] <ntbnnt> goundy: okay, now you can maybe reboot after that force and go
[04:58] <ykrana> mez, ljl, elkbuntu, imbrandon, dbo, gnomefreak, hobbsee, rob, ompaul, madpilot, burgundavia, seveas, carlk, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or unix
[04:58] <apokryphos> ykrana: what are you doing?
[04:58] <meisam> soundray how can i check if it is configured and set up compeletely?
[04:58] <ykrana> we should port it looks easily portable
[04:58] <goundy> ntbnnt, just reboot X right?
[04:58] <LjL> what is going on here
[04:58] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:58] <goundy> ok brb
[04:58] <ykrana> ykrana, i had this relevant?
[04:58] <royel_> Vilhelms: are you using a virtual desktop, IE: desktop is 1024x768, but virtual makes it 1280x1024, trying to understand how your desktop could move
[04:58] <riotkittie> good question
[04:59] <DBO> soundray?  did you need something?
[04:59] <soundray> meisam: dpkg -l tomcat5.5 should show the package with 'ii' at the beginning of the line
[04:59] <Seveas> soundray, do NOT abuse !ops
[04:59] <soundray> DBO, Seveas: ykrana was spamming
[04:59] <Math^> anyone know how to check your hardware, so you can check wich videocart you have etc?
[04:59] <Seveas> soundray, ah ok, sorry
[04:59] <Vilhelms> royel_, no, all I'm using is beryl... i am on a widescree though so my resolution is 1280x800 I think...
[05:00] <DBO> soundray, ok seems seveas destroyed him
[05:00] <riotkittie> superspamming.
[05:00] <apokryphos> Math^: lspci
[05:00] <goundy> :/
[05:00] <goundy> ntbnnt, none :(
[05:00] <Seveas> soundray, hint !ops | Help ops ykrana is spamming
[05:00] <soundray> Thanks Seveas, DBO
[05:00] <ntbnnt> errr....
[05:00] <Seveas> :)
[05:00] <gili> hello
[05:00] <gili> i need help with media file tagging!!
[05:00] <Math^> thats what I was searching for apokryphos thnx :)
[05:00] <Vilhelms> royel_, I don't remember exactly and if I check desktop preferences it just says "Default" for my resolution, but there is no widescreen resolutions available in the list
[05:00] <goundy> ntbnnt, when I launch tremulous it say: Can't load openGL subsystem
[05:00] <soundray> Seveas: hint taken, thx
[05:01] <meisam> soundray yes it is shown here, it is installed i guess
[05:01] <ntbnnt> goundy: you might just contact ati... report a bug, but i don't know - try a full system reboot first...
[05:01] <goundy> ntbnnt, hey i've an idea
[05:01] <royel_> Vilhelms: I'm sorry, I'm grasping at straws here.. I really don't think I fully understand the problem. :(
[05:01] <goundy> ntbnnt, i think that drivers include into dapper live CD works
[05:01] <soundray> meisam: README.Debian should tell you if you need to do anything in particular to start the service. Also, make sure that apache is configured properly.
[05:01] <goundy> ntbnnt, can I restaure them without reinstalling the system ?
[05:02] <gili> I got a ton of media  (audio files) ogg and mp3 that are not taggesd...what is a good media/jukebox program that i can use to tag files from cddb databases
[05:02] <gili> ?
[05:02] <meisam> soundray apprecitae it dude
[05:02] <soundray> meisam: yw
[05:02] <ntbnnt> goundy: word, you can 'slipstream' them - but you may have to force an install from your cd via apt
[05:02] <LjL> gili, you could tag from the MusicBrainz database as well, or at least consider that possibility. Amarok can use it (though it was broken last time i tried), or... well, let me search
[05:03] <ntbnnt> goundy: if you can do it through, apt, that's ideal
[05:03] <goundy> ntbnnt, it's a bit complicated, i've not understood what u said ^^
[05:03] <Vilhelms> royel_, alright thanks for trying :)
[05:03] <zOap> does anyone know of a batch(or single) wma to mp3 converter?
[05:03] <LjL> gili, QuodLibet can tag based on all of MusicBrainz, CDDB and FreeDB
[05:03] <LjL> gili: you need the quodlibet-plugins package
[05:03] <ntbnnt> goundy: errr... yea, it is - ummm, mount your live cd
[05:03] <gili> LjL quodlibet plugins
[05:04] <gili> ok
[05:04] <gili> what else
[05:04] <gili> and amarok?
[05:04] <goundy> ntbnnt, forget I'll dug out i'm sure there's another solution
[05:04] <goundy> thanks
[05:04] <varkatope> LjL: ffmpeg -i xyz.wma -vn -ab 128 -ar 44100 -acodec mp3 xyz.mp3
[05:04] <goundy> cya ++
[05:04] <LjL> gili: for amarok you just need amarok, but that's a KDE apps, so it'll install a lot of libraries if you have just GNOME
[05:04] <ntbnnt> goundy: yea, that could get nasty...
[05:04] <LjL> varkatope: ?
[05:04] <royel_> Vilhelms: keep asking your original question, maybe someone else will come by an know what to do
[05:04] <ntbnnt> goundy: good luck, but it sounds like you should hit the forums...
[05:05] <varkatope> zOap: ffmpeg -i xyz.wma -vn -ab 128 -ar 44100 -acodec mp3 xyz.mp3
[05:05] <gili> ok so if i dont want amarok installed what program should use?
[05:05] <varkatope> LjL: sry
[05:05] <eXistenZ> LjL, Have you got root enabled?
[05:05] <goundy> ntbnnt, yea ;) thanks dude
[05:05] <LjL> eXistenZ, definitely not
[05:05] <zOap> varkatope, thanks alot:)
[05:05] <ntbnnt> goundy: yea, np :)
[05:06] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix this?
[05:06] <holycow> Vilhelms, #xubuntu
[05:06] <LjL> gili: quodlibet is a possibility, as i said. that's a GNOME program. i see that also easytag (CLI program) has CDDB support
[05:07] <soundray> Vilhelms: are you using the standard xorg X server?
[05:07] <Vilhelms> holycow, I'm asking there but no answer
[05:07] <olsen> what package do you usually install for run 32 bit apps on 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:07] <holycow> Vilhelms, cool
[05:07] <Vilhelms> soundray, I'm running in Xgl and using beryl
[05:07] <LjL> gili: also libtunepimp-bin for scripting mass-taggins using musicbrainz
[05:08] <jussi01> Vilhelms: you could try reinstalling it with: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[05:08] <linux_kid> I recently Installed Firestarter, and nothing will connect to the internet.  now that its gone, same problem.  Windows works fine, sadly.
[05:08] <soundray> Vilhelms: try #ubuntu-effects then
[05:08] <Vilhelms> jussi01, I will try that
[05:08] <olsen> ehm anyone?
[05:08] <soundray> olsen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290785
[05:09] <ElementC> Working on encouraging my local school board to convert to ubuntu. We need to quickly and easily customize the artwork (GDM login screen, background, window borders, controls) any advice?
[05:09] <Trypsin> hi all
[05:09] <soundray> !edubuntu | ElementC
[05:09] <ubotu> ElementC: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[05:09] <gili> LjL, thanks
[05:09] <ElementC> HTanks.
[05:10] <sdac221x_> i am trying to install some thinkpad software throught synaptic...and it wants to remove "xubuntu-desktop" package in order to install this... is this right ?? should i allow it to go ahead ?
[05:10] <soundray> ElementC: is artwork really the primary consideration?
[05:10] <ElementC> Yep.
[05:10] <ElementC> They're hooked otherwise.
[05:11] <royel_> ElementC: have you looked at gnome-look.org
[05:11] <linux_kid> ElementC, thats great!
[05:11] <ElementC> I have the artwork itself.
[05:11] <ElementC> I just need to package it.
[05:11] <varkatope> anyone here with ubuntu on via cx700 chipset family?
[05:12] <soundray> sdac221x_: xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, containing no program files of its own, so it's okay to remove
[05:12] <jussi01> !anyone | varkatope
[05:12] <ubotu> varkatope: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:12] <innu> hey, what modules needs to be loaded to use SB live 5.1 soundcard
[05:12] <olsen> soundray: linux32 is a wrapper, there was a library that you could install and run 32 bit apps without a wrapper
[05:13] <soundray> innu: emu10k1 is my guess
[05:13] <innu> FATAL: Module emu10k1 not found.
[05:13] <olsen> the library sits on /lib32 it hink
[05:13] <olsen> i think*
[05:13] <soundray> innu: snd-emu10k1
[05:13] <varkatope> how to install ubuntu on via cx700 chipset family?
[05:14] <varkatope> better? ;P
[05:14] <Frogzoo> innu: should be a whole bunch of stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:14] <dabaR> How do I make an add with tear-off phone numbers on the bottom?
[05:15] <rojo^> debaR: tried scribus?
[05:15] <soundray> olsen: you can install the 32bit compatibility libraries. There is no single package for them that I'm aware of.
[05:15] <soundray> olsen: the cleaner choice is to setup a 32bit chroot environment
[05:15] <rojo^> err, dabaR: tried scribus?
[05:15] <soundray> !chroot | olsen
[05:15] <dabaR> I will
[05:15] <ubotu> olsen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:16] <soundray> varkatope: it's compatible with i386, so the procedure is the same as for those chips.
[05:16] <Frogzoo> dabaR: gimp
[05:16] <rojo^> I dunno whether you can rotate text with it or not.  You might just have to use gimp
[05:16] <dabaR> Frogzoo: yes, that is a cool name, what about it?
[05:16] <dabaR> Frogzoo: in other words, how?
[05:17] <varkatope> soundray: it should have been more precise, as im interested in the special features of that chipset like mpeg 2/4 and wma acceleration
[05:17] <goundy> ntbnnt,
[05:17] <goundy> ntbnnt, ntbnnt
[05:17] <goundy> all work now
[05:17] <ntbnnt> yea
[05:17] <ntbnnt> what did it?
[05:17] <goundy> i've reinstalled drivers with apt-get :/
[05:18] <soundray> varkatope: you asked about the installation procedure. It is the same as for i386 chips
[05:18] <innu> Frogzoo, hmm.. there is emu10k1 modules. If i use lspci, it shows card even if its not loaded?
[05:18] <cout> is there a frontend for the network manager that doesn't require gnome or kde?
[05:18] <ntbnnt> sweet, it was configuration, goundy
[05:18] <goundy> yea
[05:18] <goundy> big thanks guys
[05:18] <armadill0> Here's a more general question:  My sound recording doesn't work.  I've posted on the ubuntu forums and asked here and have basically been ignored.  I know other people can't record audio and it is reaching the point where I have to start looking at other distros or going back to windows.  What more should I do to help resolve this issue?  Thanks.
[05:18] <soundray> varkatope: as for the special features, check http://www.via.com.tw for drivers first.
[05:19] <Chadarius> armadill0: can you send me your forum post link? I'd like to take a look and see if I can help you
[05:20] <ntbnnt> :)
[05:20] <varkatope> soundray: there is a very short howto at via but it is for fedore core 5
[05:20] <armadill0> Chadarius:  Thanks :)  its :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331629
[05:20] <soundray> varkatope: also look at this page http://lwn.net/Articles/99464/ ; especially the comments at the bottom
[05:20] <innu> Are cards shown in lspci even if theryre modules are not loaded?
[05:20] <winston> !backup
[05:21] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:21] <soundray> varkatope: VIA can't be said to be among the few manufacturers who have "got" open source yet.
[05:22] <varkatope> <- reading
[05:23] <kditty> i can not edit the file /home/kditty/hellanzb-0.9/etc/hellanzb.conf, everytime i try sudo gedit /home/kditty/hellanzb-0.9/etc/hellanzb.conf nothing happens but a blinking cursor. can someone tell me why its doing this?
[05:24] <soundray> kditty: try gksudo instead
[05:24] <kditty> ok, soundray, that gave me a screebn but its locked up
[05:25] <kditty> (gedit:5360): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:25] <kditty> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:25] <kditty> thats what it printed soundray
[05:25] <[OG] 6ton> does ubunto support wireless net?
[05:25] <[OG] 6ton> have a asus wlan netcard
[05:26] <kditty> is there a way i could just edit the file in root, through nautilus?
[05:26] <ardchoille> !gksudo | kditty
[05:26] <ubotu> kditty: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[05:26] <Frogzoo> innu: try 'sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 ; alsamixer'
[05:27] <ardchoille> kditty: You can run nautilus as root with: gksudo nautilus
[05:28] <kditty> ardchoille, i tried gksudo nautilus and it says this "(nautilus:5540): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:28] <kditty> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:28] <kditty> "
[05:28] <mike_> does anyone know why the links at the ubuntu website are soooo slow to download ubuntu??
[05:29] <ardchoille> kditty: I get that all the time and I was told to ignore it.
[05:29] <kditty> i would, except nothing came up
[05:29] <erUSUL> mike_: use bittorrent it is faster
[05:30] <mike_> ive tried bittorrent and seem to get at best about 200kbps is that normal ??
[05:30] <babo> guys, I want to dual-boot with windows. So should I just choose 'install on the largest continuous free space area' ? .. or should  I edit the partition manually ?
[05:30] <mike_> edit partition manually
[05:31] <HymnToLife> babo, it depends on how your partitions are set up currently
[05:31] <tjtansey> ubotu: thanks it worked, and on top of it I found pages for other stuff I couldn't figure out either
[05:31] <babo> mike_: right, what specifically should I do then ?
[05:31] <royel_> babo: if your not familiar with partition tables, you might want to try the first option if you have free space available.
[05:31] <HymnToLife> if you have some _free_ space, you can go witgh "use the larges continuous free space"
[05:31] <babo> roye1_: the first option is to erase the disk entirely ...
[05:32] <HymnToLife> apokryphos, what's that for ?
[05:32] <royel_> babo: the first option you mentioned, which is use largest free space
[05:32] <Pici> !modes
[05:32] <ubotu> There are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[05:32] <HymnToLife> !botsnack
[05:32] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:32] <Frogzoo> babo: you want to have partitions for - doze gigs| / 10gig|swap 1g|/home gigs   - & /var also if you plan a web/sql server
[05:32] <babo> roye1_: ahh ... OK. What would be the advantages of partitioning myself ?
[05:33] <royel_> babo: normally theres not much difference, but manually gives you the ability to setup the partitions specifically the way you want.
[05:33] <patrick__> hey i can't log in, i restarted my comouter, and when i put in my credentials it logs in and then comes back to the log in screen...ive tried all the options to login and none will work, any ideas?
[05:34] <babo> Frogzoo: /var, /home/, /swap are the essential ones ... what else do I need ?
[05:34] <[OG] 6ton> does ubunto support wireless net?
[05:34] <kditty> ardchoille, thanks, it opened nautilus root but a little while later ;x
[05:34] <[OG] 6ton> have a asus wlan netcard
[05:34] <RememberPOL> Is there a way to specify which version of glibc to use when compiling? (say, using the `make` command?)
[05:34] <sdac221x_> hi im trying to install "configure-thinkpad" but its not in repos.   Is it safe to download and install a Red Hat/Fedora RPM or Mandrake RPM since i couldnt get the source to install.
[05:34] <RememberPOL> Like say I have 2.4 and 2.3.2 installed... how can I specify which is used?
[05:34] <Drel3> how can i set in midnight commander to open my mp3 files in xmms not in rhythmbox, beacuse he always open in rhythmbox!!Nautilus is just fine he open mp3 in xmms
[05:34] <patrick__> i used sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(usname -r)
[05:34] <babo> will grub find the windows install and offer me a boot choice ? ... it says that grub will put ubuntu at hd0
[05:35] <royel_> babo: /swap / are the only essential ones.. it's common to use /boot / an swap though
[05:35] <HymnToLife> royel, /swap is incorrect
[05:35] <HymnToLife> the swap space is not mounted
[05:36] <bauer78> i am having problems installing java in mozilla, i think its creating the sym link to it can anyone assist me
[05:36] <bauer78> in installed in /usr/java
[05:36] <erUSUL> !java
[05:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:36] <Frogzoo> babo: / for root (10-15gig)+ swap (1g) + /var (2+gigs) + /home (gigs) + windows (gigs)
[05:37] <HymnToLife> 2 gigs for /var .
[05:37] <HymnToLife> ?
[05:37] <incorrect> swap is not me!!!
[05:37] <royel_> HymnToLife: simply mocking what they typed so he would understand the reference easier
[05:37] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: apt cache + apache/sql db
[05:37] <RememberPOL> ./tremded.svn: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./tremded.svn)
[05:37] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, forgot about the apt cache
[05:37] <erUSUL> bauer78: 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin'
[05:37] <babo> right, I'll just let the default install handle the partition, it's only a desktop and really I'm not fussy. Just as long as grub will respect the windows partition and automatically offer me a choice on boot up ...
[05:38] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: you only do it once
[05:38] <patrick__> any ideas?
[05:38] <sdac221x_> !rpm
[05:38] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:38] <guillem101> HymnToLife, var is the variable space... the used  space depends on if he is runing services, spools printers, ... and remember packages downloaded by synaptic go there as well... so if you don't clean them with certain periodicity you'll need some space...
[05:39] <minimec> Hi. I have a strange problem. I installed ubuntu edgy on a PIII 400/100 with 383MB RAM. Then I found a PIII 500/100 for about 5 EURO and replaced it (also changed the DIP Settings on th mainboard). Now I cannot load ubuntu, I can't even start the live Disk.... But, and this dirves me crazy, I can start win98 on that same machine with this 500/100 CPU. I am a little bit lost here...
[05:39] <bauer78> erUSUL: thanks I will try that
[05:39] <dabaR> What I did to make that ad, was make a image file of the text, then pasted in many times into my openoffice document.
[05:39] <administrator> pippo
[05:39] <dabaR> Frogzoo: and I did it with GIMP!
[05:39] <Frogzoo> dabaR: oh very good
[05:39] <dabaR> :)
 I cannot even imagine a possible reason for that :((
[05:40] <royel_> minimec: put the 400/100 cpu back in, the lil bit of gain with the 500 probably isn't worth the trouble now is it :)
[05:41] <minimec> guillem101: Man ;) Neither can I. It is not the first time I change some CPU. This never happened to me ;)
[05:41] <administrator> Hi all, I have a problem with a raid1 created with mdadm. I can't assign permission 777 to raid mounted.
[05:41] <guillem101> minimec, but you could start the liveCD with the 400MHz CPU?
[05:42] <Juhaz> sure
[05:42] <catlix> Hello
[05:42] <minimec> royel_: This is, what I will do probably, but it would be interesting to know, why the live disk is not starting with a working CPU. It blocks...
[05:42] <royel_> minimec: what does it do exactly with the 500 when you try an load/start ubuntu?
[05:43] <minimec> guillem101: Yeah. I installed edgy with the live disk ;)
[05:43] <Hoosteen> hiya peeps
[05:43] <Frogzoo> minimec: tried acpi=off ?
[05:43] <catlix> jest ktos z Polski??
[05:43] <minimec> royel_: It hangs after a while.
[05:43] <Hoosteen> ok...i want to listen to some streaming audio..i'm running dapper and i assume i need mplayer...is it better to install via compile or to download a package..when i search in synaptics, i don't see anything....
[05:44] <minimec> Frogzoo: You mean in the BIOS or as grub boot option?
[05:44] <Frogzoo> minimec: grub option to kernel
[05:44] <noodles12> in gedit, is there a way to allow ctrl+tab to cycle through the different tabs in gedit?
[05:44] <catlix> How install drivers for ATI??
[05:44] <royel_> Hoosteen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:44] <Frogzoo> !ati | catlix
[05:44] <ubotu> catlix: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <minimec> Frogzoo: Never had to do that. What would be the command for that?
[05:44] <catlix> thanks
[05:45] <guillem101> minimec, and what happens now? kernel panic or what??
[05:45] <Drel3> how can i set in midnight commander to open my mp3 files in xmms not in rhythmbox, beacuse he always open in rhythmbox!!Nautilus is just fine he open mp3 in xmms
[05:45] <catlix> jest jakis Polak??
[05:45] <Frogzoo> minimec: f6 to open grub prompt - find the root = line; hit 'e' to edit & append 'acpi=off' - hit return to exit editor & 'b' to boot
[05:45] <minimec> guillem101: It get a complete freeze.
[05:45] <Pici> !pl | catlix
[05:45] <ubotu> catlix: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:46] <minimec> Frogzoo: THX. I will try that... Stay tuned for feedback ;)
[05:46] <royel_> minimec: gl
[05:46] <Hoosteen> meant to say i was running edgy..but don't think it matters..hehe...thanks for the link royel_
[05:46] <guillem101> minimec, perhaps you could start without the quiet and without the splash options, so you at least see where it freezes
[05:46] <royel_> Hoosteen: yw
[05:47] <guillem101> minimec, you can edit the options at the grub menu
[05:47] <patrick__> how do you edit files when you log in just from terminal
[05:48] <patrick__> not gedit but what?
[05:48] <royel_> patrick__: nano
[05:48] <Frogzoo> patrick__: vi, or install emacs
[05:48] <royel_> patrick__: or those
[05:48] <patrick__> 0okay thanks
[05:49] <webby> Hello
[05:50] <RememberPOL> hi
[05:51] <patrick__> how do you delete files in terminal?
[05:52] <royel_> patrick__: rm
[05:52] <bauer78> rm and filename
[05:52] <Dave> hey, does anyone know a irc for computer support (not related to ubuntu but general computing, especially hardware)?
[05:53] <patrick__> yeah thanks
[05:53] <webby> Hi all. I have a problem with RAID1 created by MDADM. I ceate the array, mounted in /mnt/RAID...all ok. When I try to write in the /mnt/RAID as a normal user appear a message permission denied. I already set chmod 777 in /mnt and /mnt/RAID. HELP PLEASE!
[05:53] <patrick__> my disk says its full but it wasnt when i logged off last time, and now i cant log in
[05:53] <patrick__> so im trying to delte stuff and see if i can log in and then fix the graphics card
[05:55] <minimec> Frogzoo: It's a pain because 'grub' uses the us key settings on my swiss keyboard ...
[05:55] <Frogzoo> patrick__: rm ~/.thumbnails/large/* ; sudo apt-get clean
[05:55] <Frogzoo> minimec: urgl
[05:56] <patrick__> whats that do Frogzoo?
[05:57] <Frogzoo> patrick__: should clean out some space to get you going - removes gnome thumbnails & the apt cache
[05:57] <patrick__> ah cool
[05:58] <minimec> what do I have to add exaclty on the command line? append "acpi=off"?
[05:58] <minimec> Frogzoo: what do I have to add exaclty on the command line? append "acpi=off"?
[05:58] <adrian_h> Help! My keyboard stopped working. I'm running Kubuntu 6.06. All of a sudden my keyboard is no longer responsive, although my mouse still works.
[05:58] <Frogzoo> minimec: without the quotes
[05:59] <Frogzoo> adrian_h: check cable
[05:59] <royel> adrian_h: is it plugged in ?
[05:59] <Hoosteen> thanks royel_, worked like a champ
[05:59] <minimec> Frogzoo: so append acpi=off or just acpi=off
[05:59] <royel> Hoosteen: great, yw :)
[05:59] <adrian_h> It's a laptop keyboard. It works during the boot menu and when I log into KDE, but after that it doesn't work.
[05:59] <Frogzoo> minimec: acpi=off
[05:59] <patrick__> how do i firgure out how much space is on the disc, via terminal
[05:59] <Frogzoo> no append
[06:00] <Frogzoo> patrick__: df -k .
[06:00] <adrian_h> patrick__: df -h
[06:00] <patrick__> i just did the apt-get clean, and it says i still have 100% full disck
[06:00] <patrick__> and i know i didnt before
[06:01] <Dave> can anyone help me with a trying to fit a second hard drive, i am having some problems with my pc picking  it up?
[06:01] <cbx33> ok i have network-manager but it's just lost all my network interfaces
[06:01] <royel> adrian_h: hit it with a hammer?
[06:01] <cbx33> what's happened?
[06:01] <ardchoille> royel: hahaha
[06:02] <lordkeiden> how do i hide a partition at boot time?
[06:02] <minimec> Frogzoo: doesn't seem to work, but I am not sure if I typed it right. I gonna boot with the 400 CPU and add acpi of to the grub.conf. THX for your help anyway.
[06:02] <royel> adrian_h: sorry, but honestly no clue here :(
[06:03] <lordkeiden> i have done it with sbm in the past. any problems with using it with ubuntu?
[06:03] <mettao87> hi
[06:03] <lordkeiden> hid a partition that is.
[06:03] <mettao87> i'm trying to setup my wifi msi pc54g3card.
[06:04] <mettao87> how can i install ralink t61 driver=
[06:04] <mettao87> ?
[06:04] <mettao87> i'm using a wiki
[06:04] <Norf-ubu> !wireless
[06:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:04] <mettao87> but i don't know what i've to do at (d) Edit the /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat as a binary file. The recommended way of doing this is:
[06:06] <adrian_h> Hmm, on further investigation, the keyboard works, but only if I hold a key down for about two seconds. Any ideas?
[06:07] <oscuro> hey guys, I can't play emmbeded videos into pages.
[06:07] <adrian_h> I tried looking at the KDE keyboard settings, but the delay setting is the same as it's always been.
[06:07] <oscuro> and I already installed a mozzilla plug-in for that.
[06:07] <oscuro> what can I be doing wrong?
[06:08] <lightseed> oscuro: not sure..what type of vids? are you 64bit?
[06:08] <Ducimus> Ok, so i go and set up this computer in my office with Ubuntu and dedicate it as a server. set the group permissions, set all the people up as group members. that all worked fine but, the permissions aren't staing set. people will copy files onto the server and they become read-only for other users, so i have to go and re-apply all the permissions. any clue how to stop this from happening?
[06:08] <_Ace2016_> oscuro: are you using firefox and the mplayer plugin?
[06:08] <oscuro> yes sir.
[06:08] <oscuro> I can play the ones in youtube for example.
[06:08] <lightseed> i have a problem with the mplayer plugin not working also...using the 32 browser
[06:08] <oscuro> but I can't watch some others.
[06:09] <oscuro> I think they're for online channels.
[06:09] <rojo^> Ducimus: easiest thing might be just to dedicate a fat32 partition for public storage.  fat32 doesn't support permissions anyway.  Just a thought.
[06:09] <lightseed> ya i have the same prob...flash vids work...mplayer vids dont
[06:09] <oscuro> same with radion onlin.e
[06:09] <oscuro> :(
[06:09] <unop> Ducimus,  when a user creates a file, do the permissions on the file have writability for that user's group?
[06:10] <Ducimus> no
[06:11] <Ducimus> all the other machines in the network are windows based and are running through samba
[06:11] <Jarlaxe> Hi all
[06:12] <adrian_h> Figured out my keyboard problem -- I had somehow activated "Slow keys," which evidently is an accessibility feature.
[06:12] <erUSUL> Ducimus: maybe the umask's of the users are not apropiate?
[06:12] <unop> Ducimus,  well, if the group has no writability, then how do you expect members of the group to be able to write to it? :)
[06:12] <rojo^> Ducimus: unop has a point.  there's a way to set the permissions mask in smb.conf for that share.  "create mode = 0766" in your [sharename]  declaration section I believe.
[06:13] <rojo^> Ducimus: then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart whenever you change smb.conf
[06:13] <unop> rojo^,  is "create mode" a mask directive or a permissions directive?? because a mask of that would give the file 011 which is definitely not good?
[06:14] <Vilhelms> Is Shfit+Backspace bound to anything by default? For some reason every time I prase shift+backspace it shuts down the X server and then I can't do anything but hard restart the computer.
[06:15] <Pici> Vilhelms: it restarts the x server
[06:15] <Frogzoo> minimec: acpi=off
[06:15] <rojo^> unop: wouldn't that give the files a mask of rwxrw-rw- ?
[06:15] <Vilhelms> Pici, Wouldn't restart imply that it starts up again? Its not starting up again. I know ctrl+alt+backspace does that but shift+backspace just shuts it down
[06:17] <unop> rojo^, i'm not sure, it depends if that directive is a mask for permissions or not? because setting umask 0766 would get files  created as 011 (------x--x)
[06:17] <sacater> when i log in a get a warning about not having ownership of .dmrc or something, how do i fix this
[06:17] <unop> rojo^,  i am not sure what that directive does, which is why i asked you :)
[06:18] <sacater> when i log in a get a warning about not having ownership of .dmrc or something, how do i fix this, also my fonts and font sizes are weird
[06:18] <soundray> sudo chown sacater.sacater /home/sacater/.dmrc ; sudo chmod 600 /home/sacater/.dmrc # substitute sacater with your real login name
[06:18] <daviey> Is there a 'find' that will look in the contents of a plain text file?
[06:18] <Norf-ubu> hi - wireless problems - lspci shows I have a Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) and iwconfig says thats its "mounted" as eth1 - yet i cannot connect or see any wireless networks out there with "wireless assistant" - any clues or pointers ?
[06:18] <sacater> k
[06:18] <soundray> daviey: yes, it's called grep
[06:18] <Jersey> Hi there
[06:18] <Ducimus> can i paste multiple lines in here?
[06:18] <soundray> !cli | daviey
[06:18] <ubotu> daviey: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:18] <soundray> Ducimus: no
[06:18] <Pici> daviey: grep
[06:19] <Ducimus> k
[06:19] <soundray> !pastebin | Ducimus
[06:19] <ubotu> Ducimus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:19] <rojo^> unop: I could be mistaken.  It could just be create mode = 766.  file masks have always been somewhat hazy to me.
[06:19] <Jersey> Can anybody help me with my ATI radeon X1300 card configuration?
[06:19] <daviey> soundray, i know what the console is,  I wasn't aware grep would look in the contents of multiple files.  I always use it to | contents into it
[06:19] <sacater> soundray: that command you gave me, is it meant to go in the terminal altogether?
[06:19] <unop> rojo^,  well, let's find out then for sure (samba's always been hazy for me :) )
[06:19] <rojo^> unop: I'm not sure exactly how that directive works.  I'm sure I just found it on a wiki or discussion board one day and put it into my smb.conf
[06:19] <twa1296> hi i just installed a radeon x1550 and all is fine other than games not running fullscreen anymore, any ideas?
[06:20] <soundray> daviey: grep searchpattern /path/to/dir/*.txt
[06:20] <soundray> sacater: yes
[06:20] <Chamuco> Jersey:  I have an ati  x300 I know some stuff
[06:20] <rojo^> then things just started working
[06:20] <daviey> soundray, thanks
[06:21] <Chamuco> anyone has a list of sources?
[06:21] <Jersey> I've tried all tutorials and nothing workd
[06:21] <Jersey> works
[06:21] <soundray> !easysource | Chamuco
[06:21] <ubotu> Chamuco: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:21] <daviey> soundray, thats not working, but i'll have a look in man
[06:21] <Chamuco> Jersey: whats the problem?
[06:21] <Ducimus> ok so i pasted itno the pastebin a clipping outta my smb.conf file.
[06:21] <Ducimus> is that where i'd put that mask?
[06:21] <sacater> now when i log in it says that .dmrc is being ignored, and that i must have read write permissions to my home folder and not let anyone else have access..... what is going on?
[06:21] <soundray> Ducimus: you'd have to give us the URL
[06:21] <nxtun> test
[06:22] <Norf-ubu> hi - wireless problems - lspci shows I have a Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) and iwconfig says thats its "mounted" as eth1 - yet i cannot connect or see any wireless networks out there with "wireless assistant" - any clues or pointers ?
[06:22] <Ducimus> Sorry - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5945/
[06:22] <Chadarius> armadill0: Hey have you tried following this guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=Creative+Labs+SB+Live%21+EMU10k1+%28rev+03%29
[06:22] <Vilhelms> How can I disable the shift+backspace keyword from restarting the X server?
[06:22] <unop> rojo^,  Ducimus - http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html#id346485
[06:22] <soundray> sacater: you must have made a mistake as you copied my line of commands
[06:22] <sacater> now when i log in it says that .dmrc is being ignored, and that i must have read write permissions to my home folder and not let anyone else have access..... what is going on?
[06:22] <rojo^> unop, Ducimus: http://k12linux.org/netadmin/samba.html
[06:22] <sacater> well what was meant to happen soundray
[06:23] <royel> Vilhelms: did you resolve your other problem?
[06:23] <soundray> sacater: it was meant to set the proper permissions on your .dmrc. I suspect you've inserted inappropriate spaces
[06:23] <babo_> right, back again ...
[06:23] <Jersey> When I change my xorg.Conf file to radeon or ati (instead of vesa) my screen looks blank
[06:24] <rojo^> unop: my google is superior.  But yours is formidable.
[06:24] <sacater> soundray: is the # part of the command
[06:24] <Ducimus> lol
[06:24] <Jersey> I have to change to vesa again to see something
[06:24] <unop> rojo^,  does you google happen to be http://google.com/linux ?
[06:24] <Jersey> Sorry for my bad english, I'm spanish
[06:24] <Darknesss> is there a gui application for setting up a wifi ad-hoc network?
[06:24] <Chamuco> Jersey: you have a new install
[06:24] <armadill0> Chadarius: Thanks for checking back, yeah I took over it.  It seems to be focused on audio out issues, which I haven't had any problems with.  I can look over it again, maybe there is something useful for my problem.
[06:24] <Chamuco> what are u using?
[06:24] <Darknesss> I found a few apps but they are only used to connect to a network
[06:24] <Jersey> more or less
[06:25] <soundray> sacater: no, it's a comment. Entering it with the # won't make a difference
[06:25] <rojo^> unop: nope, it's a firefox quicksearch that searches www.google.com
[06:25] <Jersey> I have Trevinho's repository list installed
[06:25] <Zaggynl> !hostap
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <soundray> sacater: is your login name 'sacater'?
[06:25] <unop> rojo^,  ahh, then it can't be superior when it comes to searching linux :d
[06:25] <Chamuco> no what U have edgy breezy ...?
[06:25] <Chadarius> armadill0: You might want to look at compiling from source... I'm looking up support for your specific card on the alsa sight right now
[06:25] <Jersey> 6.10 edgy
[06:26] <KarlosII> cafuego , are you around?
[06:26] <babo_> right, can anyone help me with my partition problem ?
[06:26] <Vilhelms> royel, Sorry, I hit Shift+Backspace again... Yeah, I restarted and it worked fine
[06:26] <Jersey> I run Sabayon Live CD to test it (because it supports 3D) and screen blank
[06:26] <Vilhelms> I just need to know how to disable shift+backspace
[06:26] <Vilhelms> Before I hit it again by mistake
[06:26] <KarlosII> hi Vilhelms
[06:27] <soundray> babo_: no, not unless you give some detail
[06:27] <Juhaz> Vilhelms, man xorg.conf, search for "zap"
[06:27] <Chamuco> ok then try this go to synaptic on the search type fglrx
[06:27] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, Heyyy, did you get your Gallery thing working last night? Sorry about that, my Internet was acting up yesterday
[06:27] <Jersey> I've just done
[06:27] <LMJ> Hello the chan
[06:27] <KarlosII> not yet
[06:27] <Pici> !hi
[06:27] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:27] <Chamuco> what packages are listed 7 which are saelected?
[06:28] <armadill0> Chadarius:  Ok, that may be the way to do.  Generally I hesitate to diverge from the repository/ package manager binaries to keep my system "normal", but compiling is worth checking out for sure, if it looks like thats an issue.
[06:28] <Chadarius> armadill0: It really looks to me that the drivers aren't loaded properly or something
[06:28] <LMJ> I would like to recompile a working package on my ubuntu 6.10 for debugging purpose,  I need a tutorial/advices to show me the way to get the source, get dependancies & compile a package on Ubuntu, anyone could help ?
[06:28] <Chamuco> also did you download and try to install the propietary ati drivers
[06:29] <Jersey> fglrx-control, fglrx-kernel-source, linux-restricted-modules..., xorg-driver-fglrx, xserve-xorg-video-ati
[06:29] <Jersey> yes, I did and nothing works
[06:29] <Chadarius> armadill0: The cat /proc/asound/cards didn't output anything on your aadebug
[06:29] <armadill0> Chadarius: That may be the case.  Maybe there is a kernel module that isn't being loaded...  Its so strange because I can hear my voice in the speakers, so I know the audio is getting "in" somewhere...
[06:29] <Norf-ubu> hi - wireless problems - lspci shows I have a Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) and iwconfig says thats its "mounted" as eth1 - yet i cannot connect or see any wireless networks out there with "wireless assistant" - any clues or pointers ?
[06:29] <bauer78> jersey
[06:29] <Ducimus> ok, thanks, i'll give that a try. i may be back if i've completely wrecked things. :)
[06:29] <Jersey> teel me
[06:29] <Chamuco> Jersey: which ones are installed?
[06:29] <Jersey> bauer
[06:29] <Jersey> these ones
[06:29] <bauer78> did you run the ati installer from the ati website?
[06:29] <Jersey> that I told you
[06:30] <bauer78> I wasnt here
[06:30] <Chamuco> the installer doesn't work
[06:30] <Jersey> yes, bauer78
[06:30] <bauer78> they type ati --intial
[06:30] <Chamuco> I've tried
[06:30] <bauer78> ati --initial
[06:30] <Chadarius> armadill0: Can you do me a favor and run that command again just to see what it sends back? cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:30] <armadill0> Chadarius: Ok, I just cat'd that file... it output'd ok.
[06:30] <bauer78> then click ctl alt backspace
[06:30] <Chamuco> no the open source ones work no problem
[06:30] <bauer78> this resolved my issue 20 minutes ago
[06:30] <Chadarius> armadill0: What did it say?
[06:30] <Jersey> sudo aticonfig --initial
[06:30] <Jersey> I did
[06:30] <bauer78> ati radeon 9700
[06:30] <sacater> i now have the full error report when i log in.............    Users $home/.dmrc file is being ignored. this prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. Users $home directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users
[06:30] <armadill0> Chadarius: There are two entries, one is my Hauppage card, the other is my VIA8237
[06:31] <Markon> ragazzi
[06:31] <soundray> LMJ: check out http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[06:31] <Markon> hei..
[06:31] <smartman> hi guys i want to convert ubuntu 6.10 to router
[06:31] <Markon> where is italian channel?
[06:31] <Jersey> My ati radeon X1300 is special... hahahaa
[06:31] <bauer78> are you typing that in the terminal window?
[06:31] <LMJ> ok, let me see soundray
[06:31] <Chadarius> armadill0: can you also do a cat /proc/asound/version for me?
[06:31] <Jersey> yes
[06:31] <armadill0> Chadarius: I just sent it to you in a tell
[06:31] <Chadarius> thx
[06:31] <rojo^> anyone running two nvidia cards SLI?  Whenever I try enabling SLI (Option "SLI" "Auto" in Section "Device"), X freezes the console and never launches; can't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] .  Anyone else encounter this?
[06:31] <soundray> sacater: okay, I gave you a command to set it to 600 because that is how it is set up here. Try this one instead:
[06:32] <Jersey> I've read more than 5 tutorials and nothing works... I'm going crazy
[06:32] <soundray> sudo chmod 644 /home/sacater/.dmrc
[06:32] <Chadarius> armadill0: But you have a Soundblaster Live right?
[06:32] <Jersey> propietary, fglrx, ati, radeon... only vesa works
[06:32] <sacater> soundray: now do i try logging in again
[06:33] <armadill0> Chadarius:  I don't think so, the soundcard is build into the mobo.  I don't recall it being a soundblaster live.
[06:33] <Markon> hei..can you help me? i cannot enter in the italian forum...is it a my problem?
[06:33] <Chamuco> IMHO well my card is working is a x300 essentially what I did was on a clean install, opened synaptic put fglrx on the search box selected everything except the devel files then reboot did aticonfig initial etc, and now I have a dual display horizontal desktop with 3d accel, although for the 3d you need to add a line on xorg.conf
[06:33] <unop> !it
[06:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:33] <armadill0> Chadarius:  I just thought it was a generic VIA sound some-thing-or-another...
[06:33] <Norf-ubu> i really need help with wireless networking please!
[06:33] <Chamuco> Jersey:  brb
[06:33] <jenda> How come xsane scans the preview in higher quality than the actual scan?
[06:33] <Chadarius> armadill0: LOL nevermind... I was reading the wrong output in teh post for a second
[06:33] <unop> Markon,  whats the URL?
[06:33] <Jersey> ok Chamuco, thanx
[06:33] <jenda> How can I fix that?
[06:33] <soundray> Markon: it must be. "/join #ubuntu-it" works all right here.
[06:34] <Jersey> I'll try again
[06:34] <Jersey> Is there any issue using my ATI card with an AMD X2 4600?
[06:34] <unop> soundray,  he did mention "forum" ( i was caught out by that too :) )
[06:34] <sacater> soundray: it still gives the same error message, could it be another file or folder within my home directory thats doing it
[06:34] <armadill0> Chadarius:  hehe ok, "something-or-another" isn't exactly a product line... Crazy thing is, it used to work under breezy without issues.
[06:35] <soundray> sacater: do a 'ls -ld /home/sacater' please. The beginning of the line should read 'drwxr-xr-x'
[06:35] <bauer78> Norf-ubu: what is your issue
[06:36] <soundray> unop: it wouldn't have been the first time for someone to call a channel 'forum'.
[06:36] <Ajedrez> Hi!
[06:36] <sacater> soundray: WE HAVE THE STICKY LITTLE **** drwxrwxr-x
[06:36] <sacater> soundray: how do i change it to the version you gave me
[06:36] <melodos> hi everyone
[06:36] <Ajedrez> a Good List of Programs that work fine with wine? Please
[06:36] <Ajedrez> :)
[06:36] <melodos> i was wondering
[06:37] <hoagie> hello
[06:37] <melodos> is it easy to use ubuntu?
[06:37] <babo_> I want to dualboot ubuntu with an existing windows install. I've repartitioned the drives. It's asking me where it should mount the windows partitions. It suggests /media/sda1
[06:37] <soundray> sacater: what was that?
[06:37] <hoagie> yes melodos
[06:37] <melodos> easier than debian?
[06:37] <hoagie> yes
[06:37] <hoagie> although it depends on what you mean by ease
[06:37] <melodos> i was wondering if i can have xgl and compiz on ubuntu
[06:37] <keyrnerl> hola
[06:37] <sacater> soundray: drwxrwxr-x  >>>>>> MY HOME                  drwxr-xr-x  >>>>>>>> your version
[06:38] <hoagie> yes you can melodos
[06:38] <sacater> soundray: mine is different
[06:38] <erUSUL> !es | keyrnerl
[06:38] <ubotu> keyrnerl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:38] <smartman> hi guys i want to make arouter
[06:38] <saray> hola
[06:38] <soundray> sacater: try 'chown 755 /home/sacater'
[06:38] <erUSUL> !es | saray
[06:38] <ubotu> saray: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:38] <sacater> soundray: okay if ur sure
[06:38] <Ajedrez> Hola keyrnerl
[06:39] <soundray> sacater: sure it's fine -- I don't expect it to make a difference, though.
[06:39] <smartman> !router
[06:39] <sacater> soundray: sacater@neo:~$ chown 755 /home/sacater
[06:39] <sacater> chown: changing ownership of `/home/sacater': Operation not permitted
[06:39] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$
[06:39] <keyrnerl> whois
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Norf-ubu> hi bauer78 - i have a belkin wireless card - lspi shows it as a Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 - and iwconfig says that its "mounted" as eth1 - yet its dead in the water.,.. wireless assistant says there is nothing out there and manually configing it with networking doesn't seem to activate it (ie i cant see it on my windows box as an available ssid) - fairly newb here so help appreciated
[06:39] <babo_> there isn't one person on #ubuntu who's willing to help me do a dual-boot install ?
[06:39] <smartman> !ip_tabel
[06:39] <soundray> sacater: sorry! 'chmod 755 /home/sacater'
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip_tabel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <sacater> soundray: bbiab
[06:40] <soundray> Dang, I hate it when that happens
[06:41] <sacater> soundray: THANK YOU SO MUCH IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, THE REASON I WAS WORRIED IS BECUASE HOME FOLDER PERMISSIONS WERE THE DOOM OF MY LAST UBUNTU BUILD
[06:41] <Chadarius> armadill0: Have you tried looked to see if your user ID is a member of the audio group?
[06:41] <soundray> sacater: uhoh, you'll get told off for shouting now ;)
[06:41] <armadill0> Chadarius:  Yeah, I am a member of that group.
[06:41] <soundray> sacater: anyway, I'm glad it worked.
[06:41] <hoagie> hehe
[06:41] <jussi01> !caps | sacater
[06:41] <ubotu> sacater: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:41] <sacater> soundray: i dont care :P
[06:41] <royel> sacater: quit screaming!! :)
[06:41] <Crescendo__> Why is Gaim being a douche recently?
[06:42] <sacater> soundray: thanks again
[06:42] <soundray> sacater: :)
[06:42] <sacater> i scream when im happy :D
[06:42] <saray> cui e cui none sta e anone
[06:42] <royel> sacater: made my eyes bleed a lil
[06:42] <armadill0> Chadarius: So strange :/
[06:43] <Norf-ubu> babo_:  for dual booting - assuming you have windows installed already - see http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/Installing_Ubuntu_with_Windows_Dual-Boot
[06:44] <Norf-ubu> bauer78:  any clues or ideas ?
[06:44] <will_> ciao
[06:45] <will_> a tutti
[06:45] <Chadarius> armadill0: Can you send me the output from cat /proc/asound/devices?
[06:45] <soundray> sacater: you can easily make dangerous mistakes with chmod and chown, but generally only if you use the '-R' option
[06:45] <will_> hi
[06:45] <will_>  well i have a problem
[06:45] <will_> in installing
[06:45] <will_> beryl
[06:45] <soundray> !enter | will_
[06:45] <ubotu> will_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:45] <sacater> soundray: i thought it was -hR
[06:45] <erUSUL> !it
[06:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:45] <armadill0> Chadarius: sure thing
[06:46] <patrick__> how do you delte folders from the terminal?
[06:46] <newbuntie> how do I find out which version of ubuntu I'm using?
[06:46] <HymnToLife> patrick__, rm -r /path/to/dir
[06:46] <HymnToLife> -rf if the dir is not empty
[06:46] <will_> oook well i do not know how to modify the file sources.list
[06:46] <defrysk> newbuntie, cat /etc/issue
[06:46] <erUSUL> patrick__: rmdir for empty folders rm -r if you want to wipe it out
[06:46] <soundray> sacater: -h can compound the danger
[06:46] <sacater> soundray: ah okay
[06:47] <patrick__> and the -r is after the folder name?
[06:47] <soundray> !cli | patrick__
[06:47] <ubotu> patrick__: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:47] <will_> and to modify the some string i had added by mistake..
[06:47] <HymnToLife> patrick__, no, after rm
[06:47] <soundray> patrick__: before or after, makes no difference in this case
[06:47] <newbuntie> how do I install a photosmart c4180 is the driver for it isn't listed? (Ubuntu 6.06)
[06:47] <patrick__> soundray, i'm stuck in a login of terminal, i cant get into the gui
[06:47] <patrick__> my disc says its full but i dont know why its saying this
[06:47] <royel> patrick__: be extremely careful using rm -rf, this is very powerful an has been known to accidently delete entire systems
[06:48] <soundray> patrick__: try a 'sudo apt-get autoclean' first.
[06:48] <newbuntie> how do I install an hp photosmart c4180 printer if the driver for it isn't listed? (6.06)
[06:49] <patrick__> it still says 100% even after that
[06:49] <jussi01> newbuntie: www.linuxprinting.org i think may have info for you
[06:49] <patrick__> 100% full
[06:49] <newbuntie> it's also not listed on the wiki...
[06:49] <newbuntie> jussi: I'll check thx
[06:49] <royel> patrick__: how big is your hard-drive?
[06:49] <kitche> patrick__: ctrl+alt+f2 and try and log in and do df -h
[06:49] <will_> the fact is that now the installation manager tell me "error opening the cache e:type "repository" in not known on line 41 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:49] <wheels3572> Im having trouble adding a program to a launcher.  Cant get it running.  I get no errors it just wont open the program
[06:49] <patrick__> 80 gig
[06:49] <Norf-ubu> i have a belkin wireless card - lspi shows it as a Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 - and iwconfig says that its "mounted" as eth1 - yet its dead in the water.,.. wireless assistant says there is nothing out there and manually configing it with networking doesn't seem to activate it (ie i cant see it on my windows box as an available ssid) - fairly newb here so help appreciated
[06:50] <jussi01> wheels3572: what program?
[06:50] <soundray> patrick__: then try 'sudo du -s | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn'. This will tell you which directory occupies the most space (after a while)
[06:50] <patrick__> i'veokay thanks soundray
[06:50] <soundray> s/directory/directories/
[06:50] <wheels3572> jussi01, it's an html file that I want to associate with firefox and it just wont come up
[06:50] <soundray> patrick__: sorry, let me try again
[06:51] <jussi01> so what have you done so far?
[06:51] <soundray> patrick__: then try 'sudo du / | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn'. This will tell you which directories occupies the most space.
[06:51] <wheels3572> I have added the launcher
[06:51] <unop> soundray,  just wondering. why not pipe to tail instead of creating temp file?
[06:51] <wheels3572> then added the path for firefox icon
[06:51] <soundray> unop: because he then has the option to examine the list further without redoing the time-consuming du
[06:52] <Chadarius> armadill0: The more I look around the more I think compiling a newer version is going to solve your problem. I don't much like that either, but since your driver is loaded and everything looks OK there that's all I can think of. The only other recourse is perhaps to mess with your alsamixer but from what you are saying I don't think that is the problem either
[06:52] <patrick__> soundray: it says no such file or directory for tmp/dusortn
[06:52] <unop> soundray,  ahh right
[06:52] <SanguineAnomaly> guys, how do I stop ubuntu trying to make me update my kernel?
[06:53] <Chadarius> armadill0: I am using the 1.0.14 release right now and its working OK for me... but I don't have your sound card :)
[06:53] <armadill0> Chadarius: Ok, yeah that sounds about right to me too.  Looks like its time to pull up the sleeves :)  Well thanks for your help, I appreciate it.
[06:53] <armadill0> Chadarius: yeah, its the weirdest thing
[06:53] <soundray> patrick__: don't miss out the leading slash on /tmp/dusortn
[06:53] <defrysk> SanguineAnomaly, why not update kernel ?
[06:53] <Chadarius> armadill0: Good luck my friend!
[06:53] <SanguineAnomaly> defrysk, because it breaks
[06:54] <kitche> SanguineAnomaly: so you can still use the old kernel if you wish also
[06:54] <patrick__> soundray : it came back, sort:write failed: standard output: No space left on device
[06:54] <patrick__> haha
[06:54] <karly> i am trying to install ubuntu onto my computer, but when i go to the menu and select the first option play and install, it goes to the loading screen, but after it loads the screen goes black with the little dashing line at the top left corner. after a while, it goes completely black. ive left my comp on for about an hour while this is happing, and nothing happens
[06:54] <SanguineAnomaly> kitche, but then I have redundant kernels littering /boot/
[06:54] <SanguineAnomaly> :/
[06:55] <soundray> patrick__: okay, that means we have to write the file as root (because root can use a reserve of space on the filesystem)
[06:55] <dyrne> karly: id try the alternate install cd available from ubuntu.com
[06:55] <Cin> xtknight, yo
[06:56] <soundray> patrick__: erm, change of plan (following unops suggestion): 'sudo du / | sort -n | tail'
[06:56] <armadill0> Chadarius: Thanks, I'll see you around :)
[06:56] <soundray> unop: would you mind taking over?
[06:56] <patrick__> okay thanks
[06:57] <soundray> patrick__: did that work?
[06:57] <KarlosII> cafuego , are you around?
[06:57] <patrick__> yes it did
[06:57] <karly> where do i find the alternate install cd
[06:57] <soundray> patrick__: and did it find an exceedingly large directory?
[06:58] <unop> soundray,  whats up?
[06:58] <royel> !alternate | karly
[06:58] <ubotu> karly: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:58] <soundray> unop: would you mind helping patrick__, 'cos my wife has made a lovely dinner for me
[06:58] <royel> karly: thought it would have had a link.. it's available under the downloads, scroll the page down a bit
[06:58] <unop> soundray,  ha .. no worries :)
[06:58] <patrick__> yeah, other than my music folder and photos, it came abck with one  /var/backup/2007-02-14_20.20.58.193341.patrick.desktop.ful
[06:58] <soundray> unop: cheers! :)
[06:59] <patrick__> thanks soundray, eat well!
[06:59] <soundray> patrick__: unop will sort you out :)
[06:59] <hoagie> soundray have a nice time
[06:59] <igor47> i just installed ubuntu, and its great!  one question though - i get the "software updates available" icon poping up.  however, i can't do "install updates" because i'm behind a proxy - can i set this "software updates" program to know about my proxy?
[07:00] <unop> patrick__,  so whats happening?
[07:00] <karly> royel: do u mean ubuntu 6.06?
[07:00] <mitcheloc> hi guys, i'm trying to get ubuntu to detect my second monitor -- using fglrx and an ati card
[07:00] <mitcheloc> any ideas? aticonfig dualhead doesn't seem to work?
[07:01] <royel> karly: there is alternate for all of them if I recall correctly
[07:01] <patrick__> unop, okay my harddrive is showing 100% full now,and i rebooted last night, but since then i cannot log in other than using ctrl+alt+f1 to get to terminal log in
[07:01] <KarlosII> hello, I've installeed gallery 2 nad goto http://localhost/gallery2/ but file is not found, anyone know why? It has not worked since upgrading from ubuntu 6.06, I have apache2 installed and mysql installed, and the ubuntu pkg supposedly presets it up? Any idea why where to start to find the issue?
[07:01] <patrick__> and we've been trying to sort out which folder ista king up a lot of space, and it seems to be from the sbackup program i instaled last night, the folder is quite large
[07:02] <eggyknap> I get the feeling this is a common problem, and I'm missing the solution, by why can't I install libc6-dev? I get "Depends: libc6 (=2.4-1ubuntu12) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is to be installed" from synaptic
[07:02] <patrick__> yeah, other than my music folder and photos, it came abck with one  /var/backup/2007-02-14_20.20.58.193341.patrick.desktop.ful unop, that folder
[07:02] <hoagie> igor 47: Open Synaptic then go to Settings>Preferences then go to the tab network and configure your proxy
[07:02] <MiD> hi everyone
[07:02] <unop> patrick__,  ok, so what is your plan of action ?
[07:02] <mitcheloc> are there any tools to make dual head detection easy on ubuntu?
[07:02] <unop> patrick__,  keep the folder, delete it, clean it up ??
[07:02] <babo_> why is the installer suggesting that I mount my windows partition to /media/sda1 ?
[07:02] <jussi01> !hi | MiD
[07:02] <ubotu> MiD: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:02] <KarlosII> dueal head what the heck is that
[07:03] <MiD> a simple question: if i install ubuntu and kubuntu in different partitions, can i share the "/home" partition without having conflict problems?
[07:03] <patrick__> i'm going to delete it, i just removed sbackup
[07:03] <karly> royel: do u mean dapper drake?
[07:03] <kitche> babo_: probably because it's ont he first hard drive and first partition and on a SATA drive?
[07:03] <unop> patrick__,  right, so all you want to do now is delete the folder, is that it?
[07:03] <khronus> hey all, tried installing ubuntu for first time last night, it failed nistalling so i reburnt
[07:03] <mitcheloc> KarlosII: in other words, i have two monitors out puts on my card, one dvi and one vga, i'm trying to get the dvi output to work (vga is already working)
[07:03] <khronus> and it failed agaIN
[07:03] <khronus> SO I DID DISKCHECK
[07:03] <khronus> AND IT FAILED
[07:03] <babo_> kitche: right, so what should I do ?
[07:03] <khronus> SO I RE D/LED IT
[07:03] <unop> !caps | khronus
[07:03] <ubotu> khronus: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:03] <khronus> AND SAME PROB
[07:03] <KarlosII> mitcheloc: I see
[07:03] <khronus> oops
[07:03] <patrick__> yes i'm going to do that now unop
[07:03] <kitche> babo_: just let it mount there :)
[07:03] <khronus> sorry folks
[07:04] <khronus> was not looking whilst typing
[07:04] <royel> babo_: it will give you access to the disk from within Linux/Ubuntu, it should be safe to do if you want to have access to anything from that drive partition
[07:04] <MiD> a simple question: if i install ubuntu and kubuntu in different partitions, can i share the "/home" partition without having conflict problems?
[07:04] <unop> patrick__,  do you want help with that or can you manage?
[07:04] <khronus> so we d/led again and burnt at lowest speed but it still fails the diskcheck
[07:04] <patrick__> but it said permission denied unop :(
[07:04] <unop> patrick__,  sudoed?
[07:04] <igor47> hoagie: this thing has "manual proxy configuration" but i have an autoproxy...
[07:04] <unop> patrick__,  sudo rmdir /path/to/directory
[07:05] <hoagie> eh
[07:05] <patrick__> okay
[07:05] <royel> ubotu got tired of us :(
[07:05] <patrick__> ah that did it!
[07:05] <jim88> hi all ... can someone tell me if there is an irc channel for help with openoffice issues?
[07:06] <patrick__> 89% ful
[07:06] <patrick__> horray thanks unop
[07:06] <patrick__> lets try a log in.
[07:06] <patrick__> i also might have issues with my graphics driver haha
[07:06] <babo_> No file system is specified for partition #1 ... ?
[07:06] <unop> heh :)
[07:06] <hoagie> igor: sorry can't think of anything else
[07:06] <bayziders> Is there a avi to wmv converter for ubuntu?
[07:06] <patrick__> how do you restart from terminal
[07:06] <kitche> jim88: yes
[07:06] <royel> babo_: thats fine
[07:06] <babo_> I thought partition one was ntfs ...
[07:06] <kitche> !openoffice | jim88
[07:06] <unop> bayziders,  we usually try and convince people to use free formats when creating video
[07:07] <igor47> hoagie: thats alright, now that i know this thing is synaptic, i'll know where to look for more info - thanks!
[07:07] <unop> !restricted
[07:07] <kitche> !openoffice | jim88
[07:07] <mitcheloc> anyone familiar with dual monitor setups?
[07:07] <hoagie> nothing
[07:07] <jim88> thanks kitche is it freenode
[07:07] <royel> babo_: you can correct it in /etc/fstab after you've installed the system
[07:07] <bayziders> I would ussaly how ever it is for my 360 and it only plays wmvs
[07:07] <bayziders> =\
[07:07] <kitche> jim88: yeah
[07:07] <unop> seems ubotu's taking a break?
[07:07] <jim88> ty
[07:07] <babo_> roye1: do you prefer ext2 or ext3 ?
[07:07] <kitche> unop: seems like ubotu just rejoined but it's still broken
[07:07] <kitche> jim88: it's #opneoffice.users I believe ubotu has it but it's not working
[07:08] <patrick__> how do you restart the computer from terminal?
[07:08] <unop> patrick__,  sudo shutdown -r now
[07:08] <kitche> patrick__: sudo shutdown -r now
[07:08] <thor> patrick__: reboot
[07:08] <bayziders> Should I just get to googling?
[07:08] <bayziders> +
[07:08] <ubotu> jim88: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:08] <patrick__> okay thanks all!
[07:08] <royel> babo_: I use ext2 for /boot an reiserfs for my desktops, on my server I use ext2 an ext3
[07:08] <karly> royel: so do u mean dapper drake?
[07:08] <MiD> a simple question: if i install ubuntu and kubuntu in different partitions, can i share the "/home" partition without having conflict problems?
[07:08] <royel> karly: which do you want ?
[07:09] <karly> royel: you siad to find the alternate text install version, and i dont see it
[07:09] <royel> MiD: I would think you could as long as you don't try an share the same directories, IE: /home/royel for both sytems
[07:09] <karly> said
[07:09] <kitche> MiD: sure you can but just don't reformat your /home and it will be fine
[07:09] <royel> karly: which version do you want?
[07:10] <hoagie> igor are you there?
[07:10] <igor47> hoagie: indeed
[07:10] <karly> royel: it doesnt matter to me
[07:10] <MiD> kitche, can i have users with same nick on both systems then?
[07:10] <unop> MiD, royel,  it shouldnt matter as long as ubuntu and kubuntu arent using it at the same time
[07:10] <Gomu_Gomu> server irc.rizon.org
[07:10] <karly> royeL: as long as it works
[07:10] <Gomu_Gomu> \server irc.rizon.org
[07:10] <patrick__> thanks so much unop and soundray, it's working fine now
[07:10] <unop> patrick__,  yw :)
[07:10] <patrick__> this channel is so much help
[07:10] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with my pmcia prism card?
[07:10] <hoagie> ok is the proxy problem only for the update manager or for ubuntu in general
[07:10] <hoagie> ?
[07:10] <bjdiei> Hi All.  I have upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 to now 6.10.  hal is still broken.  Any suggestions?
[07:11] <royel> karly: try this http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[07:11] <igor47> hoagie: i set up the proxy for firefox in firefox settings, and i added it to my bashrc as an environment variable so applications like wget work
[07:11] <igor47> hoagie: the only thing i'm having trouble with ti sthis "software updater" - btw, apt-get on the command line works
[07:12] <royel> karly: I assumed for PC (intel x86)
[07:12] <karly> royel:thats dude ur awesome =D
[07:12] <khronus> hi folks, anyone know why ubunto cd is failing checksum?
[07:12] <hoagie> ok so I suppose that if you go to System>Preferences>Network Proxy and click the automatic proxy configuration will work... fortunately
[07:13] <karly> royel:i tried to find out the version, but i couldnt open up the case, the screws were on the inside of the case, so i could only open it up partially, and it didnt say which version of bios
[07:13] <karly> but it is a intel pentium 2 processor
[07:13] <lwizardl> Hi
[07:13] <Ramm> hi all
[07:14] <royel> karly: you shouldn't need to open it for anything, that info is enough to know which version of ubuntu to download, Did you try a LIVECD first?
[07:14] <lwizardl> how do you mount a remote directory as a local directory?
[07:14] <karly> royel: wait whats a live cd?
[07:14] <bjdiei> Anybody here know how I can fix hal?  I upgraded and it no longer works.
[07:15] <royel> !livecd | karly
[07:15] <ubotu> karly: Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[07:15] <karly> royel: i got a ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 iso image off the site
[07:15] <karly> that might be why it didnt work
[07:15] <webwolf_27> I need gnucash with hbci will upgrading to feisty do the trick, I will I have to build on my own
[07:15] <khronus> hi folks, the diskcheck is failing on my ubuntu cd, even after d/l from diff mirrors and have also burnt at slow speed but still fails, any ideaS?
[07:16] <hoagie> igor still there ?
[07:16] <royel> karly: you have to burn the .iso image to a CD now
[07:16] <khronus> bad burning software or dodgy ubuntu release??
[07:17] <karly> royel: i know that, ive been using computers for a while, i just dont know much about linux. but im eager to learn =D. the file hasnt finished dl'ing yet
[07:17] <roe> does anyone know how to get the scroll wheel to scroll more than one line at a time?
[07:17] <Gomu_Gomu> server irc.rizon.org
[07:17] <royel> karly: if you want to install directly from windows, then take a look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
[07:17] <karly> royel:but ill burn it when it finishes dling
[07:17] <slippyr4> i keep reading about "enabling universe" . what does that mean and why would i want to do it ?
[07:18] <rafael_> hello
[07:18] <royel> !universe | slippyr4
[07:18] <ubotu> slippyr4: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:18] <karly> royel: whoa thats tight. hrm. ill see if i can get this that to work if the first cd image doesnt work
[07:18] <julle> is there anyone who knows the command for recieving a file a "dcc send" from a user in IRSSI?
[07:19] <slippyr4> thanks royel
[07:19] <royel> slippyr4: yw
[07:19] <Advanced> evenin :)
[07:19] <karly> royel: but can i only do it from windows xp?
[07:19] <Pici> julle: /dcc get perhaps?
[07:19] <SportChick> julle: /dcc get $nickofsender
[07:19] <royel> karly: I'm not sure, it might work with other versions of windows
[07:20] <kuma> hi, In wich directory should I install an application that it isn't in the Adept?
[07:20] <karly> royel: ok thanks. uve been a big help. im really grateful
[07:20] <julle> SportChick: okey thanks! is $ reqiured?
[07:20] <royel> karly: honestly, the 6.10 image you downloaded is probably gonna be your best bet, since it is a LiveCD
[07:20] <royel> karly: anytime :)
[07:20] <SportChick> julle: no
[07:21] <karly> royel: wait so the image from the link you just gave me or the one i got before
[07:21] <bayziders> could any one recommend a bash/shell porgamming tutorial?
[07:22] <royel> karly: the one I gave you is whats called an alternate install cd image, it is not a LiveCD, meaning that you can only use it to install.. an it's a basic text mode version, it's generally used for slower machines or people wanting to have a bit more control over the install
[07:22] <gnomefreak> bayziders: abs guide
[07:22] <Pici> bayziders: http://en.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[07:22] <bayziders> Thanks.
[07:22] <karly> royel:mkay.i get it now.
[07:23] <unop> bayziders, this too  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[07:23] <bayziders> Will bookmark them all.
[07:23] <royel> karly: the one you said you had downloaded, if it's the 6.10 i386 will give you a bootable fully functioning linux OS without actually installing.. (think of it as test driving) :)
[07:23] <unop> bayziders,  you might want to start of with the latter tho
[07:23] <bayziders> Kay
[07:24] <royel> karly: ^^ that LiveCD also has the ability to perform an install
[07:24] <leafw> is there any command that would do a 'cp -au this that', but deleting files that have been removed from the source dir, like rsync would do ?
[07:25] <royel> leafw: mv ?
[07:25] <karly> royel: yeah, but it just froze when i tried to install it as i explained before
[07:26] <VrilutZa> how to add suport this on kernel
[07:26] <VrilutZa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5950/
[07:26] <leafw> not mv, what I wan to do is to create a mirrored backup within the hard drive, like I would with rsync between different PCs
[07:26] <Geak> hey, could you please tell me what kind of and os I should use if I am a beginner?
[07:26] <VrilutZa> requit the install htb-tools
[07:26] <VrilutZa> http://htb-tools.arny.ro/content.php?content.7
[07:26] <craigbass76> Hey folks, I'm trying to mount up a share and it's not working.  mount -t smbfs //ip.address/share  The share is on a windowsME box, and while I know this is just asking for trouble, it's what I have to deal with.
[07:26] <VrilutZa> ?
[07:26] <Geak> hey, could you please tell me what kind of and os I should use if I am a beginner?
[07:26] <unop> leafw,  rsync definitely does that -- it's whole point is "synchronicity" .. man rsync
[07:26] <craigbass76> oops, mount -t smbfs //ip.address/share /mnt
[07:26] <leafw> yes, but within the same computer, not remote sync
[07:26] <Kelbizzle> Geak, use ubuntu
[07:26] <mitcheloc> can anyone help me with a dual-monitor set up using the fglrx/ati driver?
[07:27] <unop> leafw,  rsync doesnt have to work over a network, it can do local folder-to-folder replication too
[07:27] <Erealz> hello everyone
[07:27] <royel> karly: ah, I missed you saying that.. try the alternate then, if that is too much for you, you might wanna take a look at that windows installer I gave you link to, I haven't actually used it myself, but it has got alot of praise I'm told :)
[07:27] <leafw> unop: I see, rsync also works within one PC
[07:27] <mitcheloc> i can't get the video card to detect/use my second monitor -- argh
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi good ppl
[07:27] <unop> leafw,  correct
[07:27] <soundray> patrick__: I see you removed your backup to get it going again
[07:27] <leafw> thanks unop, I've been using rsync for so long I forgot it could do local mirroring as well
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> i think my sata hdd has some bad sectors! how do i check them?
[07:27] <Kelbizzle> mitcheloc, your issue might be better solved m checking the foru,s.
[07:28] <mejde> has anyone experienced problems with getting pmtu to work?
[07:28] <unop> leafw,  well, i dont know the option you want off the top of me head - but generally -- rsync --options /source /destination
[07:28] <Kelbizzle> mitcheloc, by checking the forums.
[07:28] <Erealz> i have a quick question , and that is, what do i install to get mp3 to play. my box is a fresh install.
[07:28] <VrilutZa> ani body help
[07:28] <soundray> !mp3 | Erealz
[07:28] <Pici> !mp3 | Erealz
[07:28] <ubotu> Erealz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <royel> craigbass76: try mount -t ntfs
[07:28] <mitcheloc> Kelbizzle: i've read several forum posts and blogs and guides, can't seem to find the advice i need, i must be missing something...
[07:28] <mitcheloc> i had this working about 6 months ago with ubuntu and don't remember doing anything speciail
[07:29] <mitcheloc> *special
[07:29] <mejde> the icmp unreachable message is sent back but if I, say, copy something with ssh, it just stalls
[07:29] <craigbass76> royel: on a windowsME box?
[07:29] <asraniel> hi, can i ask questions for feisty herd 3 here?
[07:29] <Bardamu> hello
[07:29] <soundray> !feisty | asraniel
[07:29] <ubotu> asraniel: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <Kelbizzle> mitcheloc,  Yea I was able to do it with one nvidia card. I would say start over. Just pick another tutorial then start over.
[07:30] <bayziders> *sighs* I need a dvd/r drive. This cd/r drive isn't cutting it any more.
[07:30] <asraniel> soundray: thx
[07:30] <royel> craigbass76: yeah, dont think windows has samba filesystems
[07:30] <darweth> Does anyone know why Windows Fonts (Times New Roman and Arial) look so disgusting in OpenOffice?
[07:30] <Kelbizzle> darweth, smooth fonts maybe?
[07:30] <royel> craigbass76: -t specifies which type of filesystem your wanting to mount
[07:30] <Pici> craigbass76, royel : WindowsME would be running on vfat
[07:30] <darweth> Well, Times New Ramone and Arial look fine outside of OO.
[07:30] <Amilol7300> siemka
[07:31] <darweth> They just look bad in that app.
[07:31] <Kelbizzle> hm...
[07:31] <darweth> Roman, not Ramone. Haha.
[07:31] <royel> Pici: ooh, good catch.. I just seen Windows an stopped thinking
[07:31] <Kelbizzle> I don't even know.
[07:31] <royel> craigbass76: what Pici said, mount -t vfat //ip. /mnt
[07:31] <unop> royel,  errm, samba is a *nix implementation of the Windows SMB/CIFS ,... so windows technically has those file systems
[07:31] <Kelbizzle> I still don't know why I can't find out when a file was created in the properties.
[07:31] <Pici> Oh, you're going over a network?
[07:31] <craigbass76> royel: Yes, windowsME is running on vfat, but that's not the fs it's sharing stuff out as is it?
[07:32] <kdavidson> anybody successfully installed a DLink wireless adapter?
[07:32] <royel> unop: but the command to mount would not be # mount -t smbfs //...
[07:32] <Pici> craigbass76: It would be mount -t smbfs -o username=something //ip/share /mnt/
[07:32] <craigbass76> Pici: Yes, over a network.  The command I typed has always worked on XPsystems, but I've never tried it on an older windows.
[07:32] <unop> royel,  on windows it's net use ...
[07:33] <kdavidson> wifi radar states shows that it connects to the router as the adapter get's an IP from the router through DHCP
[07:33] <kuma> I'm running Kubuntu, does anybody knows where can i find the wine source library?
[07:33] <riotkittie> yeah, if its a win share and he's trying to mount it, then yea, smbfs
[07:34] <soundray> craigbass76: make sure you have the smbfs package installed
[07:34] <Pici> You may need to install smbfs support, I'm not sure if its there by default
[07:34] <craigbass76> soundray: on Ubuntu?  Oh yeah... I'm running off the cd and didn't think of that.
[07:34] <craigbass76> Doh!
[07:34] <kdavidson> Anybody running a wireless network?
[07:34] <babo_> ubuntu won't play with my wireless connection ...
[07:34] <ikonia> yes
[07:35] <bayziders> Would ubuntu recognize a external dvd rw drive?
[07:35] <babo_> what can I do to configure it ?
[07:35] <soundray> kdavidson: is this a survey?
[07:35] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, I've gotten mine to work
[07:35] <kdavidson> soundray: nope, legit question - I have a WNA-1330 Dlink adapter and it is not connecting
[07:35] <royel> craigbass76: pardon the misinformation, I don't mount many windows shares.
[07:35] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, lemme see which one I have
[07:36] <soundray> !wireless | kdavidson
[07:36] <ubotu> kdavidson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:36] <kdavidson> Kelbizzle: looking more for the athero chipset
[07:36] <riotkittie> ok. back to my stupid question. i have searched the forums and everything but could not find an answer. maybe my search terms were less than stellar, i dont know.
[07:36] <craigbass76> royel: S'ok, I try to steer clear of them too when I can.  Kind of like how I avoid Wal-Mart...
[07:36] <craigbass76> royel: every once in a while I'm forced...
[07:36] <Pici> riotkittie: Dont make me use !ask ;)
[07:36] <kdavidson> ubotu: Thanks, will view that too :)
[07:36] <kiwii> how to play ogg in shell ?
[07:36] <cosstick> Hello, i need help installing stuff, i just installed ubuntu dapper, and i want to install .exe files
[07:36] <soundray> darweth: it may be worth backing up your $HOME/.openoffice.org2 directory and starting with a default config
[07:36] <kuma> I'm running Kubuntu, does anybody knows where can i find the wine source library?
[07:36] <riotkittie> Pici:  hey hey hey, i was getting to it :P
[07:36] <royel> craigbass76: lol, I remember the days of Wal-mart being "Made in the USA", Sam Walton would turn over in his grave if he knew how it's run now
[07:37] <soundray> !ogg123 | kiwii
[07:37] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, ahhh.. I have DWL-G122
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg123 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <kuma> *directory
[07:37] <dyrne> hey guys in bash what was the var to echo to see if command completed correctly? echo $something
[07:37] <kiwii> !ogg
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <kdavidson> kelbizzle: I wish I was at this point, found plenty of instruction for that :)
[07:37] <cosstick> Hello, i need help installing stuff, i just installed ubuntu dapper, and i want to install .exe files
[07:37] <Pici> !wine | cosstick see here for information on running windows programs
[07:37] <ubotu> cosstick see here for information on running windows programs: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:38] <seeds> i need some help please. I've just installed the osx icon package but i have problems with the trash icon. I think its name is not correct. what name should i use for it?
[07:38] <kdavidson> cosstick: I am still fairly new to Linux, but EXE files would need to be run through Wine
[07:38] <kdavidson> cosstick: already answered by ubotu (oops)
[07:38] <cosstick> !wine
[07:38] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, yea it would probably be different. If your looking for something with an atheros chipset. I'd probably get an adapter someone has already used.
[07:38] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, if you don't feel like trolling until you get it resolved.
[07:38] <royel> cosstick: it might also be worth mentioning, .exe files are window binaries.. an are not designed for GNU/Linux .. but as said above, check into Wine
[07:38] <soundray> !vorbis-tools | kiwii, this package contains ogg123
[07:38] <ubotu> kiwii, this package contains ogg123: vorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-5 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 728 kB
[07:39] <kdavidson> Kelbizzle: Already own it - have been using it with Windows and decided last night, why not dual boot with Ubuntu....
[07:39] <craigbass76> soundray: your advice is sound... I had no samba package installed...
[07:39] <kdavidson> Thanks for the wifi document, will go through that and return if I still can't get it to work
[07:39] <soundray> craigbass76: to mount a remote share, you need smbfs, not samba
[07:39] <Kelbizzle> lol
[07:40] <kiwii> soundray: but what is a shell program to play mp3/ogg
[07:40] <riotkittie> ok. back to my stupid question. i have searched the forums and everything but could not find an answer. maybe my search terms were less than stellar, i dont know. i'm assuming that i /can/, yes?
[07:40] <craigbass76> soundray: apt-get install smbfs?
[07:40] <soundray> kiwii: ogg123
[07:40] <riotkittie> errrrrrrr
[07:40] <riotkittie> stupid up arrow. wrong line.
[07:40] <soundray> craigbass76: yes (probably with sudo)
[07:40] <royel> craigbass76: yes, perhaps you need "sudo"
[07:40] <Kelbizzle> so I'm trying to mount my reiserfs partition. It mounts to /mnt/hdb anyone know why I don't have write permissions to it?
[07:40] <riotkittie> I have an 11.2gb internal hard drive. i have a 400gb external hd. my bios does not support booting from usb devices. can i install ubuntu on the usb drive have /boot on a partition on the internal? i did see a thread or wiki entry about nonbootable drive installs and making a boot CD but it was confusing (and i dont really want to have to rely on a CD)
[07:41] <gordonjcp> riotkittie: is it mounted rw?
[07:41] <riotkittie> gordonjcp: of course it is :P
[07:41] <royel> Kelbizzle: who owns /mnt/hdb
[07:41] <craigbass76> Man, I did that earlier and it borked twice, now it's installing. Whatever....
[07:41] <Kelbizzle> royel, root
[07:41] <gordonjcp> riotkittie: sorry, that was aimied at Kelbizzle
[07:41] <RAW-mEAT> hello, my machine does not shut down automatically, whats gone wrong?
[07:41] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, no it's not rw lemme get the line in my fstab
[07:41] <soundray> riotkittie: a boot partition on the internal one should be sufficient.
[07:41] <RAW-mEAT> i have to press 5 secs power off.
[07:41] <royel> Kelbizzle: might try # chmod 777 /mnt/hdb
[07:41] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: is it a laptop?
[07:41] <riotkittie> soundray: thank you.
[07:42] <RAW-mEAT> no its a Pentium 3 500mhz
[07:42] <gordonjcp> riotkittie: in answer to your question, I don't see why not, but if it breaks you own both pieces ;-)
[07:42] <RAW-mEAT> normal desktop pc
[07:42] <kiwii> soundray: thx
[07:42] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb reiserfs defaults 0 2
[07:42] <Pici> riotkittie: Yes, it should work, since essentially its the same thing as booting from any bootable device, CD or otherwise
[07:42] <RAW-mEAT> a while ago it worked perfectly.
[07:42] <gordonjcp> Kelbizzle: say "mount | grep hdb1"
[07:42] <luzylee> im running Edgy and Vista as dual boot.  Can I set up Vista like Ubuntu so the system files are locked and password protected?
[07:42] <RAW-mEAT> since i installed xfce it doesnt work.
[07:43] <Pici> !enter | RAW-mEAT
[07:43] <Kelbizzle> /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hdb type reiserfs (rw)
[07:43] <ubotu> RAW-mEAT: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:43] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, /hdb1 on /mnt/hdb type reiserfs (rw)
[07:43] <hoagie> I don't think so luzlee, maybe you might wanna check uac in vista for that
[07:43] <royel> !vista | luzylee
[07:43] <Pici> RAW-mEAT: How are you trying to shut it down?
[07:43] <ubotu> luzylee: vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[07:43] <soundray> luzylee: that's a windows question...  ##windows
[07:43] <RAW-mEAT> I go on the "shutdown" button and wait.
[07:44] <dyrne> need some help with script. example: ls file.txt; if $something = 1; echo found the file.  im just wondering the variable that returns 0 or 1 if a command completes successfully.. sorry if this is not on topic
[07:44] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: how far does it get in the shutdown process?
[07:44] <RAW-mEAT> until the border turns from orange/yellow to black.
[07:44] <gordonjcp> Kelbizzle: okay... can you write to it when you're root (or using sudo)?
[07:44] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, yes sir.
[07:44] <padge> I'm having trouble with permissions
[07:44] <soundray> dyrne: $?
[07:44] <Pici> dyrne: [ -e /dir/file ] 
[07:45] <gordonjcp> Kelbizzle: probably want to adjust the permissions of /mnt/hdb then
[07:45] <padge> if I am padge, and nautilus is a process I'm running, then it has the same permissions I do, right?
[07:45] <dyrne> ah thats right thx *bangs head on keyboard*
[07:45] <craigbass76> Ok, so now this command sudo mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.66/invoicing /mnt gives me 7521: session request to 192.168.0.66 failed (Called name not present)
[07:45] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, oh ok I thought so. I just wanted to be sure.
[07:45] <gordonjcp> Kelbizzle: I say "probably", I mean that's what I'd do but consider that if you set it mode 777 anyone could write it...
[07:45] <Pici> dyrne: `man test` for more syntax
[07:45] <RAW-mEAT> there is a ubuntu screen with a processbar.. and i wait until the processbar is clear.. then i can wait 10 mins or 1 hour but nothing happens.
[07:45] <hairulfr> Hey all - is there a repository that comes with Kiba-dock, or is there somewhere I can DL a Gnome/ubuntu friendly version?
[07:46] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, will that make it show on the desktop?
[07:46] <royel> craigbass76: sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=xxx //192.168.0.66/invoicing /mnt
[07:46] <blazemonger> i'm on my 11th time instaling ubuntu
[07:46] <soundray> craigbass76: try 'smbclient -U username -L //host' first. It should give you a list of shares.
[07:46] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, I made volumes visible in gconf-edit for nautilus
[07:46] <pabst> Alright... I need a good HTML/XHTML/CSS editor?? Any idea's? Ive worked with SCREAM, it blows for doing style sheets, so does Quanta and Bluefish
[07:47] <blazemonger> my mouse cursor just turned all black
[07:47] <craigbass76> soundray: I didn't know there was a username on ME.  What, is it Owner?
[07:47] <soundray> craigbass76: I don't know, I think it's what you configured when you set up the share on the Windows side.
[07:47] <sigger_> just hooked my Ubuntu work lappy up to my home network (mostly Knoppmyth).  I have UID and GID conflict(s).  Knoppmyth uses UID 105 for its myth user which has a lot of files and I can't really change that, but Ubuntu uses 105 for cupsys.  Any advice oon how to proceed?
[07:48] <RAW-mEAT> but the machine does not response when i press STRG+ALT+DEL or STRG+ALT+BACKSPACE
[07:48] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: what's the last message at the bottom of the screen?
[07:48] <mtymobile> hi
[07:49] <Kelbizzle> royel,  thanks setting it to 777 worked.
[07:49] <Kelbizzle> gordonjcp, thanks it worked.
[07:49] <mtymobile> what package do i have to install to get the standard C documentation in man pages?
[07:49] <padge> I have a directory which belongs to a particular group, and I'm a member of that group.  Shouldn't I have the permissions that are set for group?
[07:49] <RAW-mEAT> i cant read any messages on the screen because its a black screen with a ubuntu logo.
[07:49] <royel> Kelbizzle: awesome :)
[07:49] <mtymobile> to make man sscanf work
[07:49] <mtymobile> ????
[07:49] <blazemonger> back
[07:49] <blazemonger> system froze
[07:49] <dewey> good day mates
[07:49] <RAW-mEAT> is there a bash command to shut down instantly?
[07:49] <Kelbizzle> royel, now to get it showing on the dekstop.
[07:49] <mtymobile> RAW-mEAT, halt
[07:49] <sigger_> padge, unless you're alse the user of the dir
[07:49] <blazemonger> when i went to select scrreensaver(i'm on a fresh install)
[07:50] <seeds> please : what's the correct name for trash icons?
[07:50] <padge> sigger_: Well, it's not working as I had hoped
[07:50] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: 'sudo halt' will do the same shutdown sequence
[07:50] <seeds> anyone please?
[07:50] <royel> Kelbizzle: browse to /mnt/name an create a link :)
[07:50] <sigger_> padge what's wrong?
[07:50] <dewey> ok I have ubuntu edgy eft installed :)
[07:50] <mtymobile> please, nobody knows?
[07:51] <blazemonger> dewey i do too..i just had to reboot my system from selecting a screensaver
[07:51] <padge> sigger_: I have a directory called 'sl', the owner and group are both 'secondlife'
[07:51] <dewey> now I want to install some msft fonts?
[07:51] <padge> sigger_: I am 'padge' and I belong to the group 'secondlife'
[07:51] <craigbass76> soundray: Oh goodie, I got to use the "home and office networking wizard"   We'll see how that goes. After a reboot of course (I totally don't miss windows at all sonce quitting)
[07:51] <seeds> Can anyone tell me the correct name for trash icons in ubuntu?
[07:51] <soundray> !msttcorefonts | dewey
[07:51] <ubotu> dewey: msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[07:51] <soundray> !fonts | dewey
[07:51] <ubotu> dewey: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:51] <cosstick> would sum 1 b able to run me through installing wine and installing useing wine please, geting very confused here :) thanks
[07:51] <Kelbizzle> royel, links don't look pretty. I want it to look like when I connect my usb drive.
[07:51] <padge> sigger_: group permissions for the folder are rwx
[07:51] <blazemonger> maybe my computer is a piece of trash
[07:51] <padge> sigger_: but that just doesn't seem to work
[07:51] <mtymobile> what package do i have to install to get the standard C documentation in man pages?
[07:51] <Pici> !repeat > seeds
[07:51] <dewey> thanx I will do that all :)
[07:52] <soundray> mtymobile: manpages-dev
[07:52] <padge> sigger_: I cannot write to it
[07:52] <mtymobile> soundray, thanks
[07:52] <seeds> pici: can you help me please?
[07:52] <edmundburke__> ubuntu isn't connecting to my wireless lan ...
[07:52] <cosstick> would sum 1 b able to run me through installing wine and installing useing wine please, geting very confused here :) thanks
[07:52] <edmundburke__> I can ping my localhost, but I can't ping my gateway ... :-(
[07:52] <Pici> seeds: I dont know the answer to your question
[07:52] <joe__> I'm having some trouble getting wireless working
[07:52] <edmundburke__> Is ubuntu not recognizing my wireless or something ?
[07:52] <RAW-mEAT> okay as i heard the harddisk goes offline but the powersupply does not stop. :(
[07:52] <seeds> pici: ok thanks anyway
[07:52] <edmundburke__> It seems that the network connection is configured from the GUI display ..
[07:52] <karly> omg royel its working =D =D =D!!!!
[07:52] <sigger_> padge, by any chance is this dir a symlink or a samba or nfs mounted drive?
[07:52] <padge> sigger_: Any ideas?
[07:52] <edmundburke__> ping 192.168.1.254 : Network unreachable
[07:53] <royel> karly: woot :)
[07:53] <padge> sigger_: no, it's real and local.
[07:53] <royel> Kelbizzle: what type of mount is it?
[07:53] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: are you familiar with /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:53] <RAW-mEAT> a bit yes.
[07:53] <edmundburke__> that must point to my graphics card right ?
[07:53] <cosstick> would sum 1 b able to run me through installing wine and installing useing wine please, geting very confused here :) thanks
[07:53] <edmundburke__> oops
[07:53] <mtymobile> RAW-mEAT, can you please explain better?
[07:53] <sigger_> padge: ok, is it a mounted drive at all?
[07:53] <Kelbizzle> royel, what the partition? what do you mean what type of mount
[07:53] <varkatope> good evening
[07:54] <royel> Kelbizzle: ah, just a partition
[07:54] <edmundburke__> that must be a wireless connection driver issue ?
[07:54] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: you should try removing "quiet splash" from your default kernel line, reboot, and then try shutting down again. You will get a more verbose shutdown sequence, which will help diagnose the problem.
[07:54] <padge> sigger_: it is a subdirectory of /
[07:54] <asraniel> does anybody know how i can reconfigure my xserver? my x.org config is realy messed up, how can i generate a new one?
[07:54] <bart_> cosstick, sudo apt-get install wine ?
[07:54] <Kelbizzle> royel, it's a second drive
[07:54] <sigger_> padge:  ok, knocks out first thing I thought of.  thinking.
[07:54] <soundray> asraniel: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:54] <Ramosa> any pointers how to run "Second Life" on Ubuntu ?
[07:55] <padge> Ramosa: Make sure you have your video card drivers installed
[07:55] <loca|host> what's the best sip softphone i can use with asterisk ? (ekiga wont work with my sound card)
[07:55] <sigger_> padge: how are you trying to write to it?  what specifically are you foing?
[07:55] <blazemonger> crashed again
[07:55] <gordonjcp> If I mount an SMB share from places, how do I find what its mountpoint is?
[07:55] <blazemonger> do i need to reinstall?
[07:55] <royel> Kelbizzle: I'm sure there is a way to do it.. I'm not 100% certain how, your wanting a drive icon, like when you insert a CDrom an an icon pops up
[07:55] <Ramosa> padge, do I just install the one from secondlife.com, or is it in some repository?
[07:55] <padge> sigger_: I am trying to write to it using nautilus.  From the console, I cannot change to that directory
[07:55] <blazemonger> i sent a bug report just now
[07:55] <edmundburke__> which interface is sit0 ?
[07:55] <blazemonger> telling them the molecule screensaver locks up system
[07:55] <soundray> gordonjcp: it's mounted via gnome-vfs, which means that there isn't a proper mountpoint.
[07:56] <varkatope> Ramosa: just download the alpha installer from the sl site
[07:56] <Kelbizzle> royel, yea like macos x shows the mounted drives on the desktop. or if I connect my thumbdrive it shows on the desktop.
[07:56] <sigger_> padge: whoa. from console you can't even enter the dir?  (i.e. it doesn't think you have +x)?
[07:56] <padge> Ramosa: Secondlife provides an archive.  Just pop it open in your home folder and run the shell script 'secondlife'
[07:56] <Ramosa> padge, thanks
[07:56] <gordonjcp> soundray: ah, that's a bit rubbish
[07:56] <blazemonger> gnome panel froze
[07:56] <sigger_> padge: from command line, "who" tells you that you are padge, right?
[07:56] <padge> sigger_: whoa, you have to have x to change to?
[07:56] <Shaffox> !wiki
[07:57] <blazemonger> i never had this happen with even windows 95
[07:57] <soundray> gordonjcp: not necessarily, the concept is good, but it's not widespread enough yet.
[07:57] <sigger_> padge: well to enter a dir, I believe you have to have +x in the dir
[07:57] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:57] <gordonjcp> soundray: so basically you can only browse the files, you can't actually *use* them with anything?
[07:57] <RAW-mEAT> okay i reboot now.
[07:57] <blazemonger> i'm on a fresh install too
[07:57] <irony> hello just discovered this xchat thing and am seeing if it works
[07:57] <soundray> gordonjcp: for now, configure to mount your share in /etc/fstab, then you will have a proper mount point
[07:57] <blazemonger> my video card is a opengl card and i have the latest drivers that are available
[07:57] <mtymobile> blazemonger, what are you saying exactly by naming windows95?
[07:57] <padge> sigger_: checking
[07:57] <gordonjcp> soundray: yes, that's what I'm doing
[07:57] <soundray> gordonjcp: you can use them with programs that are vfs aware
[07:58] <blazemonger> well the molecule screensaver locked up my computer twice ive had to reboot
[07:58] <padge> sigger_: That fixed that
[07:58] <blazemonger> i'm trying to run things that ran in debian
[07:58] <padge> sigger_: but the larger problem remains
[07:58] <soundray> gordonjcp: oh, you are. Then you will have defined the mountpoint in /etc/fstab (second column)
[07:58] <Gon> finally got ubuntu installed :D
[07:58] <blazemonger> that i used and everything i used in debian doesn't work in ubuntu...
[07:58] <soundray> Gon: congrats
[07:58] <padge> sigger_: Correct me if I'm wrong, but users can belong to multiple groups, right?
[07:58] <Kelbizzle> Gon, congrats!
[07:58] <Gon> how do i install codecs?
[07:58] <Gon> xD
[07:58] <blazemonger> Gon: have alot of pot ready
[07:58] <blazemonger> i just installed ubuntu for the 11th time
[07:58] <soundray> !multimedia | Gon
[07:58] <ubotu> Gon: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:58] <blazemonger> and did the updates
[07:58] <Gon> sweet thx
[07:58] <gordonjcp> soundray: yes, I'm just setting that up just now
[07:58] <sigger_> padge: just for kicks, cd / and ls -l sl to check perms
[07:58] <Kelbizzle> lol @ blaze
[07:59] <riotkittie> 11th. dear god.
[07:59] <Gon> i think i like this better then windows
[07:59] <blazemonger> why lol?
[07:59] <mtymobile> Gon, use automatix2
[07:59] <headphase> I am having something conflict my installation of amarok
[07:59] <czr> any idea where to find gcc-4.1 for dapper? (doesn't exist in dapper-backports)
[07:59] <blazemonger> ubuntu is giving me nothing BUT problems
[07:59] <Gon> aight cool
[07:59] <Pici> !automatix | mtymobile Gon
[07:59] <blazemonger> and nightmares
[07:59] <ubotu> mtymobile Gon: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:59] <Kelbizzle> <st0ner
[07:59] <sigger_> padge: yes, users can belong to many groups.  e.g. try groups padge
[07:59] <gordonjcp> soundray: a nice idea, but I suspect it's one for the GUI users
[07:59] <fbarc> Anyone know where I can find the TYPES for an fsck -t?
[07:59] <blazemonger> im wondering if this wasnt tested enough
[07:59] <royel> Kelbizzle: maybe ask in here again.. an let me know what you find out :)
[07:59] <soundray> gordonjcp: which one?
[07:59] <riotkittie> problems and nightmares but you keep coming back.  the mind. it still boggles.
[07:59] <Kelbizzle> royel,  no problem.
[07:59] <gordonjcp> the gnome-vfs thing
[07:59] <RAW-mEAT> soundray it says: system halted with a number before the system halted
[07:59] <blazemonger> can't they make a note saying "This distro might crash old machines"
[07:59] <RAW-mEAT> and after that comes nothing.
[07:59] <mitcheloc> well can't get the second screen up /me is about to give up and just stick with one 17" and put the apple 23" in the closet :(
[07:59] <Kelbizzle> I'll be back after I hit the glass
[08:00] <fbarc> Is there a chat server for ubuntu that MSN users can logon to?
[08:00] <Pici> fbarc: mount should tell you what the type of filesystems you have mounted
[08:00] <padge> sigger_: wow, I'm in more groups than I thought I was.  But that confirms that I'm in the group 'secondlife'
[08:00] <blazemonger> and i can't even get the tv out working on my rage128 all in wonder
[08:00] <Norf-ubu> !WorksForMe
[08:00] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:00] <sigger_> padge: how about the ls?
[08:00] <mtymobile> blazemonger, you are not using debian
[08:00] <blazemonger> im not right now
[08:00] <fbarc> Pici: thanks.. I'll try that..
[08:00] <padge> sigger_: Yes, I can change to the dir from the console and get a list
[08:00] <blazemonger> i just installed ubuntu thiniking it would be better than even debian
[08:00] <padge> sigger_: However, I'm being treated as though I'm not a part of that group... as in my permissions are that of o instead of g
[08:01] <riotkittie> then he found it so awful that installed it 10 more times :P
[08:01] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: okay, that means at least it's safe to force-shutdown with the power button at this point.
[08:01] <padge> sigger_: g has rwx on that directory
[08:01] <blazemonger> do i need to reinstall ubuntu again?
[08:01] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, I remeber this post in the forums "is ubuntu for you" doesnb't elp now but would have been a good read
[08:01] <RAW-mEAT> okay, but its annoying to press 5 sec the poweroff button
[08:01] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: there are two options now: 1) diagnose further, 2) employ a workaround involving grub. What would you prefer?
[08:01] <padge> sigger_: of course, I haven't tried to write with the console, but nautilus did experience a change...
[08:01] <blazemonger> well i'm a linux newb
[08:01] <Kelbizzle> RAW-mEAT, pull the power plug
[08:01] <RAW-mEAT> employ a workaround.
[08:02] <blazemonger> a work around?
[08:02] <sigger_> padge: (1) please double check the perms of the dir.  (cd /; ls -l sl) (2) try to create a file in sl (cd /sl; touch afile)
[08:02] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, me too man just really savvy. and I troll alot.
[08:02] <padge> sigger_: at first, nautilus somehow got the names of the contents, but nothing else about them.  Now it gets the fact that they are folders
[08:02] <RAW-mEAT> nah its a pc behind a desk :/
[08:02] <blazemonger> how do i prevent something as simple as a screensaver from freezing my system?
[08:02] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, linux favors the prepared and persistant
[08:02] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle:i'm not a troll
[08:02] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: at the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst, make a new section with 'title Shutdown' and a single command, 'halt'
[08:02] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, use no screensaver at all
[08:02] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle:well if microsoft wouldn't have ripped me off on XP
[08:02] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, I feel your pain there.
[08:03] <blazemonger> well why are the screensavers there then?
[08:03] <Gon> !worksforme
[08:03] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:03] <fbarc> Is there a chat server for ubuntu that MSN users can logon to?
[08:03] <blazemonger> there needs to be linux for stoners
[08:03] <Da9el> Somebody know how to unrar on ubuntu ?
[08:03] <Gon> wait wait
[08:03] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, Iis that the only screensaver that crashes your system?
[08:03] <Gon> where do i get automated install for codecs again
[08:03] <Gon> xD
[08:03] <Pici> !rar | Da9el
[08:03] <ubotu> Da9el: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:03] <welemski> does anyone knows who can help me play quicktime movie in firefox? I already installed all the necessary plugins from totem,vlc,mplayer etc still it displays  "no video"
[08:03] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle: nope
[08:03] <RAW-mEAT> okay!
[08:03] <Da9el> thanks!
[08:03] <riotkittie> because screesavers rock. and the vast majority of us have no problem with them.
[08:03] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  you have aim?
[08:04] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, it's got to be something with the drivers
[08:04] <blazemonger> riotkittie:well i have a top of the line system...a pentium 4 1.4ghz  at least top of the line for linux..a ATI RAGE 128 with 128 megabytes of memory
[08:04] <fbarc> Pici:  I just tried 'sudo fsck /media/usbdisk -t vfat" but it just said "Read 512 bytes at 0:Is a directory"
[08:04] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: to boot into the shutdown section, you have to do 'echo y | sudo grub-reboot N'
[08:04] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle:I have the latest drivers
[08:04] <blazemonger> could it be i need to make a custom kernel?
[08:04] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: to find out the correct number to enter for N, do this:
[08:04] <padge> sigger_: There are no non-directory files in the directory.  Should that work the same with a directory?  Also, I might have misled you about the placement of sl
[08:04] <hdxx> welemski, download firefox addon MediaPlayerConnectivity
[08:04] <Gon> !multimedia
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:04] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v 0
[08:04] <blazemonger> I didn't even have these probs in FreeBSD and Freebsd is much more complex than ubuntu
[08:04] <padge> sigger_: sl's whole path is /home/ftp/sl
[08:04] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, no that screensave works on my notebook qwith crappy ati chip.
[08:05] <Kelbizzle> and it doesn't crash my computer.
[08:05] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle:it doesnt crash your computer? HOW?!?!?!??!
[08:05] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: the number of the Shutdown section is what you want to feed to the grub-reboot command
[08:05] <padge> sigger_: will (copy con > bla.txt) work to see if I can write?
[08:05] <riotkittie> blazemonger: i know your specs. you ticked them off for me last night while you were on your tenth install and waxing poetic about how awful ubuntu was
[08:05] <Pici> fbarc: you need to umount the device first and provide the device name, not the mount point to fsck
[08:05] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: am I making sense?
[08:05] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, I dunno. and that card can't even handle et in windows.
[08:05] <blazemonger> i know riotkittie
[08:05] <blazemonger> it handled windows PERFECT
[08:05] <IanLiu> Hello
[08:06] <soundray> !hi
[08:06] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:06] <fbarc> Pici:  ahh..
[08:06] <RAW-mEAT> iam trying to.. :)
[08:06] <sigger_> padge: no matter re full path.  touch should work.  also when I asked about the perms, I was asking about it from above.  e.g. cd /home/ftp; ls -l sl
[08:06] <SpudDogg> Today is my birthday...I feel like an old man.
[08:06] <RAW-mEAT> one sec iam entering now things with gedit
[08:06] <IanLiu> Where do I get GLIBC source code to compile it?
[08:06] <blazemonger> so why would ubuntu crash on me but work great for millions of others
[08:06] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, what made you choose that screensaver?
[08:06] <blazemonger> cuz im stoned
[08:06] <soundray> spuddogg: happy birthday, old man!
[08:06] <padge> drwxrwxr-x
[08:07] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, ohhhh it has druge reference thats why I was asking :-D
[08:07] <huascar80> help, how can i rename a disc icon on the desktop? sda5 is now 'object", pro'
[08:07] <SpudDogg> soundray, thanks!  25 is getting old, isn't it?
[08:07] <Advanced> hey guys
[08:07] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, like for thc, and lsd
[08:07] <welemski> hdxx, yes MediaPlayerConnectivity solves the problem but it opens a lot of windows sometimes too annoying... is there any posibility of playing the .mov on a webpage without MediaPlayerConnectivity?
[08:07] <blazemonger> things are getting sluggish on my system now
[08:07] <IanLiu> how can I upgrade my GLIBC to 2.4 in Dapper Drake??
[08:07] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle Yah :)
[08:07] <padge> sigger_: drwxrwxr-x
[08:07] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, how much ram do you have?
[08:07] <meisam> guys sorry im stuck with tomcat 5.5, it is installed fully but i can not check it on 8180 port, it does not show up
[08:07] <blazemonger> that's why i9 want to run this screensaver
[08:07] <soundray> spuddogg: not if I'm the standard
[08:07] <thekidrio> anyone here have mythtv running on ubuntu?
[08:07] <blazemonger> i have 768 megabytes of memory
[08:08] <blazemonger> if 768 megabytes of memory isn't enough for Ubuntu and it's based on Debian SOMETHING is wrong
[08:08] <hdxx> welemski, try with mplayer plugin or xine plugin
[08:08] <thekidrio> 768 is plenty
[08:08] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, what kind of crah. nah I have 768
[08:08] <soundray> meisam: is that the port you configured?
[08:08] <Advanced> i just installed ubuntu, everything seemed to go fine, i rebooted to ubuntu, got to the loading screen and then it went into busybox, and gave me the error "bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off"
[08:08] <sigger_> padge: cat > testfile
[08:08] <Advanced> can anyone help me? :(
[08:08] <blazemonger> once i select the screensaver things crash
[08:08] <padge> sigger_: permission denied
[08:08] <Kelbizzle> Advanced, just ask your question
[08:08] <blazemonger> it freezes my WHOLE system
[08:08] <Advanced> i did
[08:08] <welemski> hdxx, all the necessary plugins were already installed... tried checking it with about:plugins
[08:08] <IanLiu> Where can I find GLIBC sources to compile ??
[08:08] <riotkittie> 756 is fine. im running on 256MB.
[08:08] <huascar80> please help, I really gotta rename that drive icon on the desktop
[08:09] <meisam> i have not configured any port, but i just say somewhere that is te port neede to be checked
[08:09] <riotkittie> maybe your ram is shoddy.
[08:09] <blazemonger> like i can't even use ctl alt backspace to get back to GDM
[08:09] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, so when you select the screensaver AND IT TRIED TO PREVIEW IT IS WHEN IT CRASHESD?
[08:09] <thekidrio> hrmm Advanced, hrmm interesting
[08:09] <Gon> hey guys
[08:09] <blazemonger> yes
[08:09] <Gon> need a lil help with the codecs here
[08:09] <Kelbizzle> opps caps.
[08:09] <sigger_> padge: "who" says you're padge, right?
[08:09] <RAW-mEAT> soundray: like title <tab> <tab> shutdown and root <tab> <tab> shutdown
[08:09] <blazemonger> correct Kelbizzle and that's only one of 50 things that i've had gone wrong with Ubuntu
[08:09] <meisam> soundray i have not configured any port, but i just say somewhere that is te port neede to be checked
[08:09] <Advanced> any idea's kidrio? :(
 maybe your ram is shoddy.
[08:09] <RAW-mEAT> ?
[08:09] <Advanced> i really want to try it out
[08:09] <Gon> i have no idea on how to do this
[08:09] <hdxx> welemski, then don't know sorry-:s
[08:09] <Advanced> quite sick of mandriva and suse
[08:09] <Advanced> :S
[08:09] <padge> sigger_: who gives me four lines, they all start with padge
[08:09] <ComradeC> I'm having problems with saving a location in the network settings tab, does anyone know why it wouldn't save a location for me?  Is there a manually way to save them in the console?
[08:09] <soundray> meisam: sec
[08:09] <blazemonger> Advanced at least mandriva and suse work
[08:09] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, maybe ubuntu isn'ts for you right now....
[08:09] <meisam> soundray sure
[08:09] <newbuntie> how do i install an hp scanner in 6.06?
[08:09] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle: why wouldn't it be for me?
[08:10] <Gon> anyone?
[08:10] <blazemonger> i have the hardware requirements
[08:10] <IanLiu> Anyone could help me? I must upgrade my GLIBC in Dapper, but I don't know how... Any tips?
[08:10] <sigger_> padge: then you are indeed padge.  jeez.  It hasn't hit me yet, but it will
[08:10] <blazemonger> so you're saying i should go out and buy XP?
[08:10] <thekidrio> hahahaha
[08:10] <blazemonger> or windows 2000?
[08:10] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, and it works right?
[08:10] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, are you booted up to a stable system? besideds that screensaver?
[08:10] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5958/
[08:10] <newbuntie> how do i install an hp scanner in 6.06?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> I have a desktop computer with no monitor or keyboard.  I plugged it into my laptop via a crossover ethernet cable.  Network Manager on the laptop now says there is a wired connection.  ifconfig on the laptop gives IP addresses for interfaces eth0:avahi and eth1:avahi of 169.254.5.247 and 169.254.9.63, respectively.  How can I find out the IP of the desktop so I can ssh in and use it?
[08:11] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle: i'm going to try to run the screensaver again okay?
[08:11] <riotkittie> blazemonger: you dont have to go buy windows - you have gone on and on about how great debian is, why not use that
[08:11] <royel> blazemonger: have you considered using the Kubuntu version?
[08:11] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, no problem
[08:11] <padge> sigger_: I used the GUI admin utility to add myself to the group... could this have anything to do with the umask?
[08:11] <welemski> what happen to the petition for apple on making a quicktime version for linux?
[08:11] <sigger_> padge: /home/ftp is kind of an odd place for it.  Unless you're setting the stuff up to be accessed by ftp.
[08:11] <Ramosa> padge, i can't get Second Life running on Ubuntu.. I get "Window creator error".. something with GLX
[08:11] <blazemonger> well ubuntu is more updated
[08:11] <blazemonger> dont like KDE
[08:11] <padge> sigger_: That is, in fact, exactly what it is
[08:11] <Kelbizzle> you should be able to view that screensaver.
[08:11] <padge> sigger_: however, I do want to be able to access it locally as well
[08:11] <riotkittie> blazemonger: the disc you installed from,... did you use the same disc all 11 times?
[08:11] <newbuntie> how do i install an hp scanner in 6.06?
[08:12] <SpudDogg> soundray, i just called my insurance agent and my car insurance went down $300 today...I feel a little better to be 25.
[08:12] <Kelbizzle> I can do it on my notebook
[08:12] <blazemonger> yes riotkittie
[08:12] <Kelbizzle> with radeon xpress 200m
[08:12] <blazemonger> even verified the md5 sums
[08:12] <sigger_> padge: dunno about the gui stuff.  I do almost everything via command line.
[08:12] <blazemonger> everything seemed to install perfect
[08:12] <blazemonger> then when i boot
[08:12] <riotkittie> blazemonger: was it a disc you burned your self?
[08:12] <RAW-mEAT> soundray cant connect to this link. :/
[08:12] <blazemonger> things go wrong
[08:12] <Kelbizzle> are you using edgy?
[08:12] <blazemonger> yes
[08:12] <blazemonger> it was
[08:12] <blazemonger> im using edgy
[08:12] <padge> sigger_: How do I add a user to a group with a command line?
[08:12] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: it's a bit slow right now, try again
[08:12] <LjL> padge: adduser user group
[08:12] <IanLiu> any tips on Upgrading GLIBC on Dapper??
[08:12] <LjL> IanLiu: yes: don't.
[08:12] <riotkittie> blazemonger: did you check the md5 against  the downloaded iso ?  did you check the disc for errors on install?
[08:12] <RAW-mEAT> okay i wait.
[08:12] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, I'll be back I'm booting up my notebook
[08:12] <blazemonger> yes i did
[08:13] <blazemonger> i checked for errors
[08:13] <sigger_> can use moduser for an existing user.  (man moduser)
[08:13] <IanLiu> I cant upgrade it? :(
[08:13] <Gon> mm
[08:13] <meisam> soundray im here, when ever ur finished let me know plz thx
[08:13] <Gon> anyone installed codecs?
[08:13] <Gon> xD
[08:13] <blazemonger> so how do i make this screensaver work? it's the ONLY one that doesn't work
[08:13] <sigger_> padge: sorry thats usermod
[08:13] <newbuntie> no one knows hot to install a scanner in ubuntu 6.06?
[08:13] <riotkittie> !restricted > Gon
[08:13] <welemski> can we make another petition for apple to make a quicktime version for linux?
[08:13] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, do me a favor....make a new user. and see if the same thing happens?
[08:13] <blazemonger> how do i make a new user
[08:13] <Pici> blazemonger: Which screen saver?
[08:13] <padge> LjL: I need to be root to do this, right
[08:13] <LjL> IanLiu, it would be suicide, as i'm sure you're realize: the C library is used by just about any programs, and Dapper programs expect the Dapper version of it. your system would, in all likelihood, become hopelessly broken
[08:13] <padge> sigger_: What is usermod?  adduser?
[08:13] <LjL> padge: yes
[08:13] <LjL> padge: sudo adduser user group
[08:13] <soundray> meisam: I was going to install it and see for myself, but that would take to long (44 MB)
[08:14] <blazemonger> pici: the molecule screensaver
[08:14] <Gon> thx
[08:14] <blazemonger> see if it works on your system
[08:14] <royel> blazemonger: well, my experience with Ubuntu was that it seemed a lil bit more involved getting it setup to work the way I liked.. but once I did, it seems to me to be much better than the other distro's I've tried.. Suse, Opensuse, Mandriva,Freespire,PClinuxOS,Sabayon (although this one was almost perfect) an several others
[08:14] <IanLiu> hmm...
[08:14] <zOap> what type of webcam is suported as is in dapper? is there a list somewhere?
[08:14] <riotkittie> !webcam
[08:14] <soundray> meisam: are there any /etc/tomcat* directories?
[08:14] <IanLiu> ok
[08:14] <blazemonger> royel:my experience has been the direct opposite
[08:14] <IanLiu> thanks
[08:14] <meisam> Gon sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[08:14] <sigger_> padge: what LjL said
[08:14] <meisam> Gon gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \
[08:14] <padge> sigger_: It says that I am already a member of that group.
[08:14] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, system > administration > users and groups
[08:14] <riotkittie> ugh. i should be partitioning :\
[08:15] <meisam>  Gon gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[08:15] <Gon> thanks riotkittie
[08:15] <padge> LjL: Thank you
[08:15] <Gon> i got it
[08:15] <Moxxon> Can someone tell me how to get ventrilo working for
[08:15] <Moxxon> ubuntu?
[08:15] <meisam> soundray where can i find it?
[08:15] <meisam> etc?
[08:15] <padge> LjL: I don't know how well you've been following my plight.  If you have, do you have any ideas?
[08:15] <blazemonger> royel:how much time did you spend getting things to work? a month with no sleep and amphetamines?
[08:15] <Kelbizzle> moxxon have you checked the forums?
[08:15] <royel> blazemonger: hate to hear that, I think the other distro's run a lil better out of the box so to speak, but I'm glad I stuck with working out my troubles with Ubuntu, overal I'm totally happy with it now
[08:15] <soundray> meisam: are there any /etc/tomcat* directories?
[08:16] <blazemonger> royel:well i have tracks to work on
[08:16] <royel> blazemonger: an several wipes an installs of other distros in between, yes :)
[08:16] <padge> sigger_: okay, I might have found something
[08:16] <sigger_> padge: you can write elsewhere, right?
[08:16] <blazemonger> even arch is easier to get working
[08:16] <meisam> soundray how can i check if there is any?
[08:16] <RAW-mEAT> soundray it says i have to be root!
[08:16] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  I've been working at it for 4 months I"ve broken two glass beauties out of fustration
[08:16] <blazemonger> i'm gonna try selecting this screensaver again
[08:16] <meisam> soundray in usr\share?
[08:16] <padge> sigger_: Yes, I can write in my home folder and anyplace else that has rwx for o
[08:16] <padge> sigger_: but get this...
[08:16] <soundray> meisam: ls /etc/tomcat5.5
[08:16] <Moxxon> Kelbizzle, Ive searchd google
[08:17] <Moxxon> DIdnt find anything really :/
[08:17] <meisam> Gon there were 3 lines did you fully get it baby?
[08:17] <padge> sigger_: /home/ftp is owned by 'ftp' and belongs to the group 'nogroup'
[08:17] <sidny4> anybody know how to get my logitech USB Trackball to work with ubuntu, I used to be able to plug it in and go, now it's like it isn't recognized
[08:17] <Moxxon> Kelbizzle, couldyou link me the topic?
[08:17] <Kelbizzle> Moxxon, I didn't think vent worked for linux. because I use ts
[08:17] <padge> sigger_: I am not in nogoup, nor am I ftp
[08:17] <Kelbizzle> Moxxon, lemme see if I can find it
[08:17] <Moxxon> kk
[08:17] <drx> sidny4, try plugging it into a DIFFERENT usb slot
[08:17] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: 'gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst', append the lines after the ### one
[08:17] <holycow> anyone here handle ubuntu laptop support?  just curious how remote desktop (vnc) assistance is handled behind routers ... anyone have any special configs that lets them rount remote vnc desktop dealier over port 80 perhaps?
[08:17] <sidny4> drx: I've tried all 3 of them
[08:17] <padge> sigger_: Would child directories inherit restrictions like this?
[08:17] <Kelbizzle> Moxxon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[08:18] <sidny4> drx: it recognizes my USB Flash drive, and when I plug the mouse into another computer it works fine
[08:18] <royel> Moxxon: Vent does support a linux client (yet), I've even tried to run it thru wine with no luck
[08:18] <soundray> meisam: okay, it seems that 8180 is the port that it should be running on. Is your apache configured, up and running?
[08:18] <meisam> ssoundray   policy.d  erver.xml  web.xml
[08:18] <sigger_> padge: mmm, don't think so.  e.g. my /mnt is root.root  however /mnt/stor/1 is writeable by many non-root people
[08:18] <sigger_> padge: your /home may even be root.root
[08:18] <meisam> ssoundray yes apache is working with no problem
[08:19] <meisam> ssoundray yes apache is ok and im using it with mysql
[08:19] <blazemonger> will ubuntu freezing my system and having to restart my pc all the time cause problems?
[08:19] <padge> sigger_: You are correct, and the permissions are drwxr-xr-x
[08:19] <sigger_> padge: so, how'd you get the sl dir there?
[08:19] <Moxxon> How do you install packages
[08:19] <padge> sigger_: I created it as root
[08:19] <Cyrus25801> I have a audio cd that i can't play on my pc because of encryption. Is there a program that can cut through the encryption
[08:19] <sigger_> padge: and how'd you get the files there?
[08:20] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, no it shouldn't.
[08:20] <meisam> ssoundray yes etc/tomcat exists
[08:20] <PeaceLover> heya
[08:20] <padge> sigger_: I put them there before I used chgrp and chown
[08:20] <headphase> I am having trouble installing amarok
[08:20] <blazemonger> whoever coded this molecule screensaver was a crappy coder
[08:20] <Cyrus25801> PeaceLover: hi ho silver
[08:20] <RAW-mEAT> it says again that i have to be root to do echo y | .....
[08:20] <raxip> Hello
[08:21] <Cyrus25801>  I have a audio cd that i can't play on my pc because of encryption. Is there a program that can cut through the encryption
[08:21] <hdxx> headphase, what trouble
[08:21] <raxip> interest
[08:21] <padge> sigger_: more correctly, I put them there before I changed the permissions
[08:21] <blazemonger> this ubuntu distro is making me angry
[08:22] <blazemonger> i'm starting to hate computers now
[08:22] <soundray> meisam: have you got a java sdk installed? dpkg -l j2*
[08:22] <sigger_> padge: I'm running out of stuff.
[08:22] <ompaul> blazemonger, funny there are a few million who don't get mad at it
[08:22] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, don't bite noones head off.
[08:22] <headphase> hdxx: it says I have a conflict with othe applications when I try to install it in add/remove programs
[08:22] <LiENUS> why the heck is p7zip exe named "7zr" in ubuntu?
[08:22] <blazemonger> ompaul:that's what i want to knoqw..Why is this a ISOLATED incidence?
[08:22] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, I know what you mean man. lots of blown high messin with it.
[08:22] <meisam>  soundray yes i have
[08:22] <hdxx> headphase, install in console (apt-get)
[08:23] <Kelbizzle> blaze have you posted in the forums? submitted a bug report?
[08:23] <ompaul> blazemonger, well if you think code is bad, you are entitled to not just say it is bad but yoiu can also submit a suggested fix
[08:23] <blazemonger> i found people complaining about the molecule screensaver
[08:23] <Gon> thanks guys
[08:23] <sigger_> padge: what are perms of /home/ftp
[08:23] <blazemonger> most of the probs i have have already been posted by OTHER people
[08:23] <soundray> meisam: have you edited /etc/default/tomcat5.5 to tell tomcat where the j2sdk is?
[08:23] <headphase> hdxx: apt-get amarok?
[08:23] <meisam> soundray un  j2re1.4        <none>         (no description available)
[08:23] <meisam> un  j2se-common    <none>         (no description available)
[08:23] <hdxx> headphase, sudo apt-get install amarok
[08:23] <yettenet> Ummmmmm
[08:23] <ompaul> blazemonger, I found that screen saver issues was more to do with video cards that were not behaving themselves
[08:23] <padge> sigger_: drwxr-xr-x
[08:23] <meisam> soundray no
[08:23] <soundray> meisam: do not paste here
[08:23] <yettenet> Does anyone have xfce? :P
[08:24] <meisam> soundray sorry :(
[08:24] <lolman> yettenet, yep
[08:24] <blazemonger> well I have a stable video card
[08:24] <yettenet> I can't find where it puts screenshots when I press print screen
[08:24] <yettenet> :P
[08:24] <meisam> soundray no i have not said uet
[08:24] <sigger_> padge: perhaps try making /home/ftp go+x - even if just temporarily to see if thats it?
[08:24] <blazemonger> one that works and has been around..the dependable Rage 128
[08:24] <meisam> soundray how should i be telling?
[08:24] <headphase> hdxx: I have done that before
[08:24] <blazemonger> works on even Solaris
[08:24] <sigger_> padge: perhaps try making /home/ftp go+w - even if just temporarily to see if thats it? (typo)
[08:24] <Kelbizzle> hdxx, don't forget the dependancies.
[08:24] <headphase> hdxx: do I need to restart?
[08:24] <padge> sigger_: I will try that, but I will break it into two steps to be more conclusive
[08:24] <lolman> yettenet, I think it puts them on the clipboard, let me check
[08:24] <sigger_> padge: sure
[08:25] <Kelbizzle> yettenet, should ask you where to put them
[08:25] <Kelbizzle> yettenet, the default is desktop.
[08:25] <blazemonger> but a system FREEZING over running simple code? I don't see anything complex with screensavers
[08:25] <soundray> meisam: gksudo gedit /etc/default/tomcat5.5
[08:25] <yettenet> It doesn't save there
[08:25] <yettenet> :P
[08:25] <ompaul> blazemonger, if something does not work then why insist on trying it out, like either fix it or move on,
[08:25] <blazemonger> i dont know how to fix it
[08:25] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  it's def. a video issue.
[08:25] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle so how do i fix it?
[08:25] <Pici> blazemonger: Log a bug report then
[08:25] <ompaul> blazemonger, so what video card have you got?
[08:25] <meisam> soundray then?
[08:26] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, bug report
[08:26] <blazemonger> compengi:A Rage 128 it's a good video card
[08:26] <Shaffox> !paste
[08:26] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, thats an old card
[08:26] <ompaul> blazemonger, and what driver are you using?
[08:26] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle; but it's good
[08:26] <nusa42> Sup - Need a little advice on setting up X server for 1360x768 resolution. Progress so far is that I used 915resolution to hack onboard gfx BIOS (Intel i855G), added modelines in xorg.conf and screen resolution, and edited /etc/default/915resolution and added a script with the 915resolution hack to /etc/init.d/widescreen. However the resolution starts up in 1280x1024 and the 1360x768 isnt available under preferences->screen resolution. I have to manually perform t
[08:26] <soundray> meisam: add a line "JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/j2se/1.4"
[08:26] <blazemonger> the one that comes with ubuntu
[08:26] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, THATS WHY
[08:26] <hdxx> headphase: what is your error in amarok? if you don't know, type amaok in console, and copy/paste on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:26] <blazemonger> what other driver do i use?
[08:26] <ompaul> blazemonger, change it to vesa
[08:26] <soundray> meisam: save, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 restart'
[08:26] <blazemonger> change it to VESA?!? i won't have opengl anymore
[08:26] <Cyrus25801>  I have a audio cd that i can't play on my pc because of encryption. Is there a program that can cut through the encryption
[08:27] <blazemonger> will I?
[08:27] <blazemonger> i used the same exact driver in debian
[08:27] <Gon> ey riokittie
[08:28] <ompaul> blazemonger, choices choices choices you know what is faulty don't know what is wrong, but can take out my initial suggestion to make it work?
[08:28] <ciga> hi
[08:28] <Gon> could you link me again to the multimedia thing earlier
[08:28] <meisam> soundray dude i have jdk 1.6.0
[08:28] <Gon> i kinda lost the link
[08:28] <padge> sigger_: That did not allow me to write a file in sl, however I am able to write a file in ftp
[08:28] <RAW-mEAT> soundray it always says i have to be root to perform this.
[08:28] <blazemonger> ompaul:will OpenGL still work?
[08:28] <ompaul> blazemonger, that is just the debian driver from sid
[08:28] <padge> sigger_: that being change o+w
[08:28] <Gon> !multimedia
[08:28] <RAW-mEAT> also gksudo and sudo does not work.
[08:28] <padge> sigger_: Now that I'm putting data into cat, how do I write an EOF? :)
[08:28] <soundray> meisam: give it the path to that, then
[08:29] <blazemonger> use VESA right?
[08:29] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: perform what exactly?
[08:29] <sigger_> padge: ergh. was hoping that changing /home/ftp would do it.  ctrl+D
[08:29] <blazemonger> ompaul: well i was using debian sid and the molecule saver didnt crash
[08:29] <gogogadget> can someone help me with a wireless problem
[08:29] <blazemonger> and i see zero reason why it would in ubuntu
[08:29] <ciga> I have a double layered DVD-RAM (9.4GB). how do I use it with ubuntu?
[08:29] <blazemonger> or ubunpoo with the experience ive had with it
[08:29] <ompaul> blazemonger, be nice
[08:29] <blazemonger> ok ok
[08:29] <headphase> hdxx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5964/
[08:30] <SonicChao> how do I remove my ubuntu partition?
[08:30] <Advanced> hey guys
[08:30] <padge> sigger_: That would have been convenient for the time being, however it would have left me in confusion as the circumstances are identical to that of /home and /home/padge
[08:30] <SonicChao> and make Windows use 100% of hte drive again?
[08:30] <soundray> ompaul: this person is resistant to advice or reason. I wasted half an hour of my wife with him or her yesterday
[08:30] <Advanced> i finally got it to boot
[08:30] <Advanced> it was trying to boot from sda instead of hda
[08:30] <Advanced> :)
[08:30] <RAW-mEAT> you have to be root to do echo y | .....
[08:30] <Advanced> but now i have another problem
[08:30] <ompaul> soundray, I called him a troll by another name
[08:30] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: why do you want to do that
[08:30] <ompaul> but now .. hey
[08:30] <Advanced> when it loads in, i assume it reaches the login screen, but i cant see it
[08:30] <Advanced> as it says it is out of range on my monitor
[08:31] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: what have you found for N ?
[08:31] <Advanced> which is strange because its at 74 hz, yet my monitor can handle up to 75
[08:31] <SonicChao> Don't ask why, just tell me how. >>
[08:31] <Advanced> anyway, that aside, how can i lower it?
[08:31] <sigger_> padge: I hear you.  step 1 get it working right (i.e not by just forcing /sl with o+w). step 2 figure out why.
[08:31] <Advanced> i tried entering recovery mode but it just gives me a command line interface
[08:31] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: you are being cocky and that way you wont get any answers
[08:31] <nusa42> Can any1 explain the relationship between the System->Preferences->Screen Resolution and xorg.conf file - Cause my edits doesn't match the resolution utility!?
[08:31] <SonicChao> sorry :<
[08:31] <cbx33> does anyone know how the ubuntu live cd remastering workd for edgy?
[08:31] <RAW-mEAT> soundray it was number 5
[08:32] <sacater> hey whats that thing on the bottom of the screen called, where its lined up with icons, and when you hover over one it grows bigger than the rest and can be clicked on, a bit like mac os
[08:32] <SonicChao> because I use windows more anyway?
[08:32] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, have you tried this at all?
[08:32] <RAW-mEAT> so i put echo y | grub-reboot 5
[08:32] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:32] <blazemonger> im about to try it
[08:32] <LiENUS> cbx33, whachutalking bout willis?
[08:32] <SonicChao> and my windows boot is slower with linux on the drive.
[08:32] <sigger_> padge: sorry, but I'm out of ideas.  I'm around for a bit if you have ideas or questions (or results!)
[08:32] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: use norton partition magic
[08:32] <cbx33> LiENUS, remasytering a live cd
[08:32] <SonicChao> Cyrus25801, link?
[08:32] <blazemonger> my card is not a radeon chipset
[08:32] <mX> is it possible to make an installable preconfigured version of ubuntu?
[08:32] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: so remove windows it sucks anyway
[08:32] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  nevermind I just saw your ins't radeon
[08:32] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: does it work when you run 'sudo grub-reboot 5' and just enter Y by hand?
[08:32] <hdxx> headphase: i think you need to install older liblaries, and then newer
[08:33] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: search with google
[08:33] <SonicChao> Cyrus25801, I don't need your opinion. :<
[08:33] <padge> sigger_: I have changed ownership of sl to padge, and that fixes it.  Everything works exactly as I would expect, except group permissions are being ignored
[08:33] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, get a nvidia card.
[08:33] <SonicChao> I just want to remove it. Maybe some peple use windows more.
[08:33] <Advanced> guys, ubuntu boots out of range for my monitor, could someone help me fix this or link me to a page that will help?
[08:33] <hossasaur> hey, i just installed ubuntu, few questions
[08:33] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: then piss of and get help somewhere else
[08:33] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, geforce4 ti 4200
[08:33] <hossasaur> can i go between workspaces with a keystroke?
[08:33] <sigger_> padge: ok, sorry I couldn't nail it down for ya
[08:33] <ompaul> SonicChao, well format it and then use append if it is available
[08:33] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle:i don't have access to a nvidia card
[08:33] <hossasaur> like alt-tab for windows
[08:33] <SonicChao> Is that what you would tell someone if they wanted to remove Ubuntu?
[08:33] <SonicChao> Windows*
[08:33] <Pici> Calm down.
[08:33] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, buy one from computergeeks.com it will be hella cheap
[08:33] <SonicChao> 'friendly' community, I'll keep that in mind.
[08:34] <soundray> hossasaur: I think you can configure one in System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:34] <hossasaur> soundray: thanks
[08:34] <blazemonger> how much kel?
[08:34] <blazemonger> how can i tell it will work with my system?
[08:34] <Advanced> i guess i'll go back to searching the forum for hours again ;-;
[08:34] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  less than 50
[08:34] <blazemonger> or my motherboard
[08:34] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: you are the one with cocky comments and bad attitude
[08:34] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  it's an old card.
[08:34] <blazemonger> i've invested all of my money in records and synths
[08:34] <mr_daniel> is there a way to save a .ram or .rm file to harddisk ?
[08:34] <SonicChao> Cyrus25801, actually no, I come with a question and get told my OS sucks.
[08:34] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  but it works great, with beryl with TCE
[08:34] <blazemonger> i don't have enough left over for computer upgrades
[08:34] <padge> sigger_: I appreciate your going through the steps with me anyway.  It's somehow comforting that the problem is genuine and I'm not just a tool :)
[08:34] <SonicChao> Not everyone has the same opinion as you. -.-
[08:34] <SeamusLP> http://www.digg.com/videos/educational/Rat_with_spinal_cord_injury_cured_with_embryonic_stem_cells
[08:35] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger,  yea I hear ya.
[08:35] <sigger_> padge: doesn
[08:35] <blazemonger> and besides i thought linux was for people who didnt want to upgrade..
[08:35] <headphase> hdxx: where do I ge them from?
[08:35] <RAW-mEAT> soundray yes this works.
[08:35] <nusa42> Any1 have experience with 915resolution utility?
[08:35] <ompaul> SonicChao, I suggested a way for you to do it
[08:35] <Cyrus25801> SonicChao: well the truth hurts (how do you crash windows.....nothing it does it all on it's own)
[08:35] <sigger_> padge: doesn't mean you're not ;)  happy to try to help.
[08:35] <RAW-mEAT> but it says something with bios supports only 18 cylinders..
[08:35] <gogogadget> I have wpa_supplicant installed but there is no .conf file
[08:35] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, no linux isn't for people who can't upgrade.
[08:35] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: does it shut down properly?
[08:35] <blazemonger> I can't upgrade
[08:35] <RAW-mEAT> no it reboots and when i select by hand "shutdown" it turns down immiadetly.
[08:36] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, ok you can't upgrade...and you need a stable system...us no screensaver.
[08:36] <soundray> SonicChao: are you still looking for advice on removing ubuntu? Or has the desire to fight taken over?
[08:36] <padge> sigger_: Haha, I hadn't considered that possiblility(watch, the solution to this will involve similar thinking).  If I think of it, I'll let you know what the problem is as soon as I get it worked out
[08:36] <blazemonger> i have ati radeon card 9600 laying next to me that i tried to use when trying to build my own system, i built the system put things together and accidentally dropped a joint on the motherboard
[08:36] <SonicChao> ompaul, thanks :3
[08:36] <SonicChao> soundray, still would like an explanation...
[08:36] <blazemonger> and baby went up in smoke lol
[08:37] <hossasaur> also, how do i install codecs for mplayer and movie player?
[08:37] <sigger_> padge: thanks.  Look forward to hearing what (likely silly) thing I missed too.
[08:37] <SonicChao> I don't know how to format.
[08:37] <hdxx> headphase: type in console: sudo apt-cache search packet_name .. in your case sudo apt-cache search kdelibs4c2a .. and so on.. but before you gonan install, trype sudo apt-get remove packet_name .. and then install (sudo apt-get install packet_name
[08:37] <meisam> soundray whta was the name of the file u told me to open up?
[08:37] <hossasaur> i downloaded the codec package for mplayer, but i can't get access to the usr/lib directory
[08:37] <hossasaur> i need to be admin?
[08:37] <Arcad3> any how to ...change ubuntu edgy boot splash with one o my own?
[08:37] <maelvino`> dunno
[08:37] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: but doing the grub-reboot 5 should boot into the shutdown menu option automatically...
[08:37] <blazemonger> another time i installed a sound card and didn't realize my computer was on (i thought it was off),
[08:37] <soundray> meisam: 'sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 restart'
[08:38] <Gon> whats a good torrent client for ubuntu?
[08:38] <Pici> !usplash  | Arcad3
[08:38] <soundray> meisam: gksudo gedit /etc/default/tomcat5.5
[08:38] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, man I thought I'de never say this to anyone. you have to stop smoking man
[08:38] <Arcad3> !usplash
[08:38] <Gon> anyone?
[08:38] <blazemonger> why do i need to stop smoking?
[08:38] <hossasaur> i'm having booting troubles
[08:38] <Pici> Arcad3: The bot is lagging.. :/
[08:38] <hossasaur> before installing ubuntu, i was running vista
[08:38] <soundray> SonicChao: boot the desktop CD, open gparted, remove the ubuntu partitions and resize the Windows one to cover the freed space.
[08:38] <ciga> Anyone would help me out how to use a double layered DVD-RAM disc?
[08:38] <blazemonger> how's vista hossasaur?
[08:38] <hossasaur> before installing vista, i set up all partitions needed for both
[08:38] <RAW-mEAT> soundray my system does not boot now it says maximum of cylinders exeedet
[08:38] <Arcad3> Pici r u from ro?
[08:38] <hossasaur> blazemonger: i actually really like it
[08:38] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, yo you tried to install hardware with your system still running.
[08:39] <nusa42> Gon: Nice stealth ' dropbox-like client is mldonkey - just "apt-get install mldonkey-server"
[08:39] <Pici> Arcad3: Nope. US
[08:39] <blazemonger> really hossasaur? will it run on a p4 ?
[08:39] <SonicChao> soundray, ok, I heard somewhere you should defrag windows first, is this true?
[08:39] <hossasaur> blazemonger: it took a little finessing
[08:39] <Gon> thx
[08:39] <blazemonger> i dont care about the aero crap
[08:39] <hossasaur> i have no idea
[08:39] <meisam> soundray i have added this: JAVA_HOME=/home/meisam/jdk1.6.0/bin is that right?
[08:39] <ubotu> Arcad3: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[08:39] <ompaul> blazemonger, kindly keep the conversation in a chat room this is a support channel and not for vista
[08:39] <soundray> SonicChao: no
[08:39] <phaded> Greetings all
[08:39] <blazemonger> ompaul ok...sorry
[08:39] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, http://www.geeks.com/products.asp?cat=VCD
[08:39] <hossasaur> anyways, prior to installing vista, i set up the partitions
[08:39] <SonicChao> soundray, ok, thanks :3 I wrote down what you said and will try it when I have free time
[08:39] <soundray> SonicChao: it used to be true, when you were downsizing, but not any more
[08:39] <nusa42> Gon: Uses a web based interface as default - but there's several GUI utilities for it...
[08:39] <hossasaur> one ntfs for vista, one fat32 for media, one ext3 for ubuntu, one swap
[08:39] <blazemonger> i'm nowhere close to geek Kelbizzle
[08:39] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, there cheap cards all under 100 bucks  and they are some really good cards.
[08:40] <hossasaur> installed vista, everything worked
[08:40] <hossasaur> installed ubuntu, now i can't get into vista
[08:40] <blazemonger> only thing is who will install the video card?
[08:40] <LiENUS> vista sucks :/
[08:40] <soundray> meisam: no, JAVA_HOME=/home/meisam/jdk1.6.0
[08:40] <blazemonger> i've never successfully put a computer together
[08:40] <hossasaur> if i click vista longhorn in grub, it hangs at a loading screen
[08:40] <Cyrus25801> LiENUS: i'm with you
[08:40] <blazemonger> or installed a video card
[08:40] <hossasaur> i didn't format that partition while installing ubuntu
[08:40] <hossasaur> i left it alone
[08:40] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, I could walk you through that shyt over the phone yo. you sound like my gf.
[08:40] <blazemonger> successfully
[08:40] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  thats expected...
[08:40] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: you can't boot into ubuntu any more?
[08:40] <blazemonger> i always have to pay people to do it
[08:40] <hossasaur> did grub mess up something with the boot process of vista/
[08:40] <battlesquid> vista? what's the point... vista isn't much more than winxp in a new packaging
[08:40] <Cyrus25801> LiENUS: yea
[08:40] <LiENUS> battlesquid,  no its a lot more
[08:40] <hossasaur> LiENUS: what can i do to fix it/
[08:40] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle:you could walk me through it?
[08:41] <blazemonger> the local computer shop wants to charge me $100 for installing a video card
[08:41] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  vista prolly hangs because of grub
[08:41] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, yea man.
[08:41] <RAW-mEAT> soundray only in secure mode
[08:41] <hossasaur> LiENUS: so what should i do to fix it?
[08:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:41] <phaded> I'm not sure if it's improper to ask this here, considering I'm running Kubuntu. I recently installed the newest Kubuntu and had no problems except for one thing. I can't get the sound working in Amarok or Kaffeiene. I'm running integrated sound, and the sound works elsewhere.It's just those two programs. Anyone have any idea how to remedy this?
[08:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:41] <ompaul> !language
[08:41] <blazemonger> how can i telll which video card will work with my system
[08:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:41] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: can you pastebin your menu.lst pls
[08:41] <blazemonger> sorry about my language
[08:41] <LiENUS> hossasaur, vista has a bunch of drm  junk in it and most likely its detecting grub and saying "nuh uh its not signed by ms"
[08:41] <RAW-mEAT> okay.
[08:42] <ompaul> LiENUS, that is offtopic please leave it
[08:42] <blazemonger> i'm educated just not in computers/technology
[08:42] <Kelbizzle> blaze do you have aol instant messenger?
[08:42] <blazemonger> Kelbizzle:yah i do
[08:42] <battlesquid> LiENUS, you're on the wrong channel if you wish to advertise for microsoft... go away
[08:42] <LiENUS> ompaul, hes asking why he cant boot into vista using the grub installed by ubuntu
[08:42] <Kelbizzle> yo Im me
[08:42] <hossasaur> LiENUS: i haven't run linux in 10 years, how do i change it?
[08:42] <blazemonger> ok
[08:42] <LiENUS> how is it offtopic ompaul ?
[08:42] <Kelbizzle> ocdutchmaster
[08:42] <meisam> soundray yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[08:42] <meisam> soundray thxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[08:42] <LiENUS> ompaul,  is grub not part of ubuntu?
[08:42] <meisam> soundray i love uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[08:43] <LiENUS> ompaul, because last i checked ubuntu installs grub by default...
[08:43] <battlesquid> kick these spammers!
[08:43] <ompaul> LiENUS, the whole starting about it is a bunch of drm
[08:43] <hossasaur> ompaul: he's helping me with grub
[08:43] <soundray> meisam: don't do it, you'll get told off for so much enthusiasm
[08:43] <blazemonger> ok
[08:43] <blazemonger> im on aim now
[08:43] <Kelbizzle> blazemonger, my sn is ocdutchmaster
[08:43] <LiENUS> ompaul,  so grub is unsupported by ubuntu?
[08:43] <soundray> meisam: but I'm glad you're up and running
[08:43] <phaded> lol
[08:43] <LiENUS> ompaul, why does ubuntu include grub on the cd if its unsupported?
[08:43] <sacater> whats the command to send a window to another workspace
[08:44] <ompaul> LiENUS, I think you know the answer to tha
[08:44] <ompaul> t
[08:44] <meisam> soundray ok, dude then i have added this line to the bashrc fro java path to compile my java file, should i ommit bin at the end also there?
[08:44] <marcel> I got a message "Could not exec dpkg!" what is that?
[08:44] <LiENUS> ompaul, ubotu says grub is supported by ubuntu, so apparently im not offtopic
[08:44] <Kelbizzle> grub wouldn't be offtopi
[08:44] <hossasaur> LiENUS: i haven't run linux in 10 years, i'm sort of new to this again, how do i fix this? do i get rid of grub?
[08:44] <phaded> It means it couldn't exec dpkg ;D
[08:44] <LiENUS> ompaul,  so i will continue helping him
[08:44] <ompaul> and did I say it was  unsupported - your comments were more addressed to the unsupported aspects
[08:44] <soundray> meisam: no, they are two different things
[08:44] <ompaul> LiENUS, work away
[08:44] <sacater> whats the command to send a window to another workspace
[08:44] <soundray> meisam: (java home directory and path to java executables)
[08:45] <meisam> soundray ok ok, dun take ur time anymore
[08:45] <meisam> sorry
[08:45] <meisam> thx
[08:45] <soundray> meisam: no problem
[08:45] <phaded> sacater: you can actually drag the programs window in the tray area over there
[08:45] <phaded> sacater: well, not the tray area, but down on the open program list
[08:45] <Cyrus25801> sorry about just now guys. With the windows dood.if you look at the conversation you will see that he was really being rood. but any way njoy. c ya
[08:45] <marcel> I am trying to download updates and get this message" could not exec dpkg!" what can I do?
[08:45] <nusa42> Hmm .. Anyone have any advice of setting 1360x768 resolution?
[08:46] <sacater> phaded: kk that works, but is there a key command
[08:46] <soundray> nusa42: have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[08:46] <phaded> sacater: I'm not entirely sure. I'm rather new myself. I'll look it up :D
[08:46] <marcel> no
[08:46] <RAW-mEAT> soundray: www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7563
[08:46] <nusa42> soundray: yeah - doesn't add this ood resolution
[08:47] <sacater> phaded: ty
[08:47] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  gimme a min...
[08:48] <RAW-mEAT> soundray i added line 152 and 153
[08:48] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  !pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:48] <LiENUS> !pastebin hossasaur
[08:48] <ompaul> marcel, what are you using to do the updates with?
[08:48] <LiENUS> !pastebin | hossasaur
[08:48] <ubotu> hossasaur: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <nusa42> soundray: ive configured xorg.conf with modelines, but the "screen resolution" utility does not reassemble the newly configured xorg when restarted.
[08:49] <marcel> there is an icon on the top  - I just double click
[08:49] <hossasaur> LiENUS: one sec
[08:49] <phopos> hi
[08:50] <phopos> I have some problems with a USB 2.0 PCI Hub
[08:50] <phaded> sacater: i cant seem to find a command. i'm as stumped as you are but i will continue to look
[08:50] <headphase> hdxx: do I have to do this for all of them
[08:50] <igor> hi all..
[08:50] <sorush20> is there a restore to a recoverypoint program like in windows in linux?
[08:50] <chaoticg33k> hello everyone
[08:50] <iosdfjdosi> hi
[08:50] <phaded> hello igor, chaotic
[08:50] <phopos> i plugged the pci hub but when connecting a webcam (usb 2.0) it appears as connected to a USB 1.1 port
[08:50] <phopos> why is that?
[08:50] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: that looks all right. Try a 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda'
[08:50] <dave__> Hi, I have just installed ubuntu and so far love it.  one thing which is bugging me is the resolution.  I am using a 19" lcd and that requires 1024x1200ish and the largest available in the res settings is 1024x768.  how do i get a bigger res then this?
[08:50] <headphase> hdxx: and if I do, do I remove all of them before I install any of them?
[08:51] <chaoticg33k> I start the long process of trasnfering my music to my linux
[08:51] <ompaul> !resolution | dave__
[08:51] <ubotu> dave__: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:51] <hdxx> headphase: yes because you need older version to isntall fist, then you can update on newer
[08:51] <apollo2011> I am having some trouble with the ubuntu repos. I am trying to install the kde-devel package, but it won't install because there are some package dependencies that are not going to be installed. Can someone help me?
[08:51] <soundray> nusa42: have you seen this http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:51] <soundray> ?
[08:51] <igor> why my ubuntu keeps trying to conect to: {TCP} cen02.ibeu.org.br(10.1.1.8):53256 -> po-in-f91.google.com(72.14.253.91):80
[08:51] <LiENUS> igor, you running firefox?
[08:51] <hdxx> headphase: when did you isntall ubbuntu ?
[08:51] <phaded> I get no sound out of Kaffeine or Amarok, but sound from everything else. Anyone know why?
[08:51] <hossasaur> LiENUS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5972/
[08:52] <hossasaur> this question is dumb, but how do i login as admin?
[08:52] <phaded> hoss: You can't
[08:52] <headphase> hdxx: this morning
[08:52] <Zoohouse> I want to update from phpbb phpBB 2.0.21 to phpbb2.0.22. All i need is "phpBB 2.0.22 [ Changed Files Only ] " file right? Steps: backup database and config log then override new files?? thats all I have to do??
[08:52] <dacks> hossasaur, 'sudo su'
[08:52] <phaded> hoss: If you need to use super user priveledges, use the sudo command in xterm
[08:52] <IceTox> Hey! Using Wine emulator, where is the C hdd located?
[08:52] <hossasaur> phaded: then how do i change files in root directory?
[08:52] <LiENUS> IceTox, ~/.wine/drive_c
[08:53] <soundray> phaded: maybe they are configured to use arts. Reconfigure for alsa output.
[08:53] <Zoohouse> opps, wrong channel. Sorry
[08:53] <LiENUS> hossasaur, windows vista is installed in the first partition right?
[08:53] <IceTox> thanks a lot LiENUS :-)
[08:53] <hossasaur> LiENUS: yes
[08:53] <hdxx> headphase: i think is better to do fresh install..  i think your packets messed
[08:53] <phaded> hoss: You should be able to do it in an xterm window
[08:53] <igor> LiENUS: yes I am
[08:53] <hdxx> headphase: and i will give you my sourecs,list
[08:53] <phaded> soundray: thanks i will try
[08:53] <LiENUS> IceTox, do ls -al ~/.wine/dosdevices to see all the drives and their locations
[08:53] <headphase> hdxx: so do I remove all of them?
[08:53] <hossasaur> phaded: eh...what's an xterm window?
[08:53] <hdxx> headphase: yes
[08:53] <LiENUS> igor, ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10?
[08:54] <dsquare> hi im having some difficulty obtaining the GPG key from http://ubuntu.berylproject.org...when i type the command my cursor just blinks but there is no network traffic...
[08:54] <igor> LiENUS: 6.10 edgy
[08:54] <phaded> hoss: Right click on the desktop, Execute command, type xterm and hit enter
[08:54] <IceTox> yah, thanks a lot LiENUS :-)
[08:54] <dave__> ompaul: where is the sudo?
[08:54] <soundray> hossasaur: open a terminal and run 'sudo -i'. You will have root rights for everything you do in that terminal after that.
[08:54] <LiENUS> igor, thats firefox's google toolbar, it pulls search statistics
[08:54] <l00x> ubuntu.beryl-project.org
[08:54] <HeavyMetaller> salve qui aiuto per ubuntu?
[08:54] <nusa42> soundray: yeah - used 915resolution instead - no dice. The resolutions I put in xorg.conf isn't added when i restart the system. However if I just do the 915resolution hack and restart X, then I get the 1360x768 fine - when I restart, it's back to default resolutions again (/etc/default/915resolution startup script is configured and an additional script in init.d with the actual hack is also present)
[08:55] <ompaul> dave__, in a terminal I have to work now
[08:55] <hossasaur> soundray: thanks, do i have to do this every time i open the terminal, or restart? or is this permanent?
[08:55] <igor> LiENUS: damn god
[08:55] <LiENUS> hossasaur, http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html#dualboot try reading that...
[08:55] <CaptainMorgan> how do I change a trackpad settings(IBM) so that when I scroll and move the mouse at the same time, backward and forward buttons are NOT pressed?
[08:55] <LiENUS> igor, whats wrong with that?
[08:55] <soundray> hossasaur: it's only for the one terminal session
[08:56] <igor> LiENUS: I recieve a huge firewall LOG in the end of day.. think about 200 client ubuntu hosts doing this
[08:56] <hossasaur> soundray: is there a way to permanently make this work?
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan> it scrolls, but if pressed a certain way, then the last page visited forward or back will appear
[08:56] <sacater> phaded: kk
[08:56] <hossasaur> LiENUS: thanks
[08:56] <soundray> nusa42: is that init.d script linked from the /etc/rc?.d directories?
[08:56] <LiENUS> igor,  so filter it out
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan> I didn't recall this happening in Hoary, but maybe it's something to do with my conf
[08:56] <soundray> nusa42: alternatively, call the init.d script from /etc/rc.local
[08:56] <student2> my repository list doesn't refresh
[08:56] <igor> LiENUS: now that  I know what is this.. I will.. thankz LiENUS
[08:56] <headphase> hdxx: could you give it to me now, I have a class in 30 min
[08:56] <student2> it's taking forever
[08:56] <nusa42> yeah - should be - followed a tutorial -
[08:57] <student2> I'm in a class
[08:57] <fbarc> anoyone know how to get ltwinmodems working?
[08:57] <nixion252> how do i add a album or artist columns to my mp3 folders in nautilus
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> fbarc: sometimes.  linmodems.org, !dialup
[08:57] <soundray> hossasaur: no, you will have to use sudo -i everytime you want to do administration. Please don't set it up any differently, because the Ubuntu design is inherently more secure than any 'login as admin'-hacks
[08:57] <LiENUS> !modem | fbarc
[08:57] <ubotu> fbarc: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[08:57] <student2> does anyone know what repository downloading failed mean?
[08:57] <drees> Hallo allemaal
[08:58] <plagerism> How would I make portmap start before the sytem tries to mount auto filesystems??  I want to put /usr/ /sbin/ and others on readonly filesystem and serve them to multiple nodes with nfs, however when it boots up it cant mount them cause portmap isnt started
[08:58] <drees> hello roomies, greetings from Holland
[08:58] <marcel> when I use synoptic to install it tells me "could not exec dpkg!" what can I do?
[08:58] <hossasaur> soundray: thanks
[08:58] <bauer77> can having to big a swap file slow the system down ? And if so how would I adjust the swapfile?
[08:58] <LiENUS> marcel, how are you launching synaptic?
[08:58] <cmp1988> Anyone here can help me get a D-Link DWL-G132 working on Ubuntu and Ubuntu-derivatives based on edgy?
[08:58] <Dame> !video capture
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video capture - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <hdxx> headphase: ok just a minute
[08:58] <bauer77> I make it 1.5 times my  memory, is that to much
[08:58] <marcel> system - administration - synoptic
[08:58] <soundray> bauer77: no, and no
[08:59] <bauer77> soundray: thanks
[08:59] <RAW-mEAT> soundray now iam waiting after i did gksudo grub-reboot 5
[08:59] <unop> bauer77,  linux uses only that much swap space it needs -- so having a huge swap partition make no difference to one that is sufficient
[08:59] <chaoticg33k> anyone know how to make xchat go to the system tray when I minimze/close?
[08:59] <dave__> can anyone quickly tell me how to get into the sudo?
[08:59] <varkatope> marcel: do you have another program running, like the updatemanager?
[08:59] <headphase> hdxx: I think I made a mistake
[08:59] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: it won't work with gksudo. Use sudo for command-line programs
[08:59] <RAW-mEAT> ok
[08:59] <Ian_> Hey guys, I'm trying to install grub on my fakeraid array (using dmraid), and upon running grub-install /dev/mapper/sil_aeahdfdcbdba, I'm met with the error 'sil_aeahdfdcbdba5 has no corresponding BIOS drive' .. sil_aeahdfdcbdba5 is my first logical parition (second over-all) and is mounted to /boot.
[09:00] <thekidrio> dave__: type sudo followed by command to use sudo
[09:00] <hdxx> headphase: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5976/
[09:00] <hdxx> but this is for edgy eft
[09:00] <marcel> not sure, I actually double click an Icon that appears on the top of my Gnome window - right side
[09:00] <dave__> thekidrio: do that on the desktop?
[09:00] <Muzik83> Ian_: not 100% sure on this, but i dont think you can boot off of a "fake" raid array
[09:00] <cmp1988> Ok, whenever I try the normal Ndiswrapper stuff on edgy, as soon as I get to the $ modprobe ndiswrapper  part, the system hangs, any ideas?
[09:00] <hossasaur> LiENUS: iirc, i saw install say it was using a scsi drive
[09:00] <hossasaur> LiENUS: is there a way to check?
[09:00] <thekidrio> dave__: do that inside a terminal
[09:00] <Ian_> Muzik83, with dmraid. It's dodgy, but it works.
[09:01] <marcel> when I mouseover it tells me "there are 65 updates available"
[09:01] <X3N> Hello, Is anyone here connected via the ISP BT (yahoo) ?
[09:01] <Muzik83> Ian_: ok nm then :p
[09:01] <Dame> Can somebody recommend some good video capturing program?
[09:01] <drees> test
[09:01] <eriklo> disk UUID in fstab? How very... new
[09:01] <thekidrio> applications --> accessories --> terminal
[09:01] <LiENUS> hossasaur, is this your personal home pc?
[09:01] <dave__> thekidrio: sorry to be a little thick, but what and where is a terminal?
[09:01] <hossasaur> LiENUS: personal laptop
[09:01] <dacks> marcel, you probably want to install those updates to stay current
[09:01] <soundray> eriklo: very cool, too ;)
[09:01] <AMD> how do i send a file using bluetooth
[09:01] <LiENUS> hossasaur, its ide
[09:01] <marcel> yes
[09:01] <Ian_> I'm going to go and look up the grub error, Muzik83, but I was hoping someone might have some experience with dmraid
[09:01] <drees> test
[09:01] <thekidrio> dave__:  applications --> accessories --> terminal
[09:01] <hdxx> headphase: like i said install ubuntu again, and use my repos.
[09:02] <marcel> but it doesn't let me
[09:02] <unop> X3N,  BT != Yahoo :p
[09:02] <eriklo> soundray: Oh well, have to read up on it
[09:02] <dacks> marcel, why not
[09:02] <dave__> thekidrio: cheers mate
[09:02] <RAW-mEAT> soundray now the error with the 18 cylinders while booting happens again.
[09:02] <AMD> i have Bluetooth File Sharing 0.8.0 installed
[09:02] <thekidrio> dave__: terminal gives you access to the command line :)
[09:02] <cmp1988> terminal is the scary black and white box that does things to your comptuer
[09:02] <dave__> thekidrio: similar to ms dos then?
[09:02] <X3N> unop: that's the isp package name because they tie in services from Yahoo
[09:02] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  unless you payed extra for a scsi laptop...
[09:02] <marcel> it gives me a message "could not exec dpkg!'
[09:03] <IceTox> Anyone know if there's any good software out for broadcasting music and being a radio host using ubuntu?
[09:03] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: but only if you boot the default, correct? Recovery works?
[09:03] <unop> X3N,  aye indeed -- I was a BT/Yahoo customer for about 2 years
[09:03] <thekidrio> dave__:  yeah similar in input :)
[09:03] <phaded> I used to go by the nick x3n for like 13 years. Heh.
[09:03] <cmp1988> Anyone know how to disable a native linux atheros driver to get my Wireless card to work?
[09:03] <phaded> I also owned x3n.net xD
[09:03] <RAW-mEAT> soundray yes recovery works
[09:04] <soundray> cmp1988: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[09:04] <RAW-mEAT> so i fixed it again with grub-install
[09:04] <X3N> phaded: always wondered who owned that, i've got x3n.me.uk and wanted x3n.net for my server's host names :p
[09:04] <profoX`> ALSA stopped working.. whats the best way of fixing that? (no process should be blocking alsa anymore, but i think flash 9 kinda screwed up when i closed firefox)
[09:05] <phaded> x3n: Well, I'm not quite sure who owns it any longer. The domain name company that I purchased off of went bankrupt. Heh.
[09:05] <moconnor> Is there a way in Debian or Ubuntu to get a list of packages that will be installed/updated other than running upgrade/dist-upgrade and parsing its intended-for-humans output?
[09:05] <RAW-mEAT> and now the system does not shut down again. :[
[09:05] <RAW-mEAT> it freezes.
[09:05] <arod> anybody using sensors-applet? mine says it can't find any sensors
[09:05] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: this is really weird, because your kernel locations are identical for default and recovery
[09:05] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: well, we never actually fixed the crash on shutdown
[09:06] <profoX`> how can I see what apps could be blocking ALSA? lsof|grep -i snd ?
[09:06] <RAW-mEAT> oh, ok so i have to press the 5 sec button anyway?
[09:06] <profoX`> or whats the device used by ALSA nowadays
[09:06] <LiENUS> moconnor,  you want to progmatically access that data?
[09:06] <phaded> profox: I'm having issues with ALSA as well. I can get NO sound out of Kaffeine. I tried changing it to ALSA, and set the wait setting for ALSA under control panel to 1. :(
[09:06] <cmp1988> soundray: What would I do to disable the Atheros chipset in my DWL-G132 Wireless USB dongle?
[09:06] <RAW-mEAT> or how can i shut down now without repair my system all the time after rebooting with grub-reboot 5 ?
[09:06] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: yes, unless we get the grub-reboot to boot into the shutdown section
[09:06] <linxeh> moconnor: why not apt-get -q -s dist-upgrade, and then just grep for the "Inst" lines ?
[09:06] <soundray> cmp1988: set ath_hal as disabled
[09:07] <RAW-mEAT> okay ubuntu-team is working on it?
[09:07] <cmp1988> soundray: Inside the quotes or no? as it shows in the example?
[09:07] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: by "we" I mean you and me
[09:07] <hossasaur> ugh, where do i find gparted?
[09:08] <RAW-mEAT> oh okay.
[09:08] <soundray> DISABLED_MODULES="ath_hal" cmp1988
[09:08] <hossasaur> is it only on the live disc?
[09:08] <cmp1988> soundray: thank you very much
[09:08] <cmp1988> soundray: I'll try that
[09:08] <RAW-mEAT> then iam ready now. system booted and repaired. ;)
[09:08] <kgalens> Say I had a desktop.  And I wanted to purchase a wireless card for said desktop ( pci or otherwise ).  Any recomendations of a chipset that might work well with Edgy?
[09:08] <cmp1988> soundray: One more quick question, do I have to reboot for effect or no?
[09:09] <babo> guys, what's the ubuntu/debian version of chkconfig ?
[09:09] <soundray> RAW-mEAT: I need you to explain this to me once more, please. Would you prefer to go to #ubuntu-de ?
[09:09] <chaoticg33k> I don't like rythmbox
[09:09] <RAW-mEAT> okay.
[09:09] <joeljkp> how do i get dhcp to not clobber by dns entries?
[09:09] <soundray> cmp1988: no, you can probably 'sudo rmmod ath_hal'
[09:09] <joeljkp> *my
[09:09] <cmp1988> soundray: thanks again
[09:10] <pbureau> kgalens, any atheros or Broadcomm based cards are pretty easy to install
[09:10] <quaal> how do i login to my ubuntu share with osx
[09:10] <quaal> i can access fine with winxp
[09:10] <soundray> chaoticg33k: 'cat file.mp3 >/dev/dsp' for great effect ;)
[09:11] <kgalens> pbureau: hmm, I have a broadcomm card right now and I've installed many drivers for it;  the current (and best that has worked) lets me stay connected for about an hour at a time
[09:11] <pbureau> kgalens, what chipset is it ? and are you using ndiswrapper drivers ?
[09:11] <kgalens> two hours if I'm having a stellar day
[09:11] <pbureau> kgalens, I use a broadcomm all day long without a problem
[09:12] <ran_> if i run some videos in either mplayer or totem theres no vertical sync. i enabled vertical sync for my ati radeon but it doesnt seem to have any effect when i play videos. anyone know how to correct this?
[09:12] <kgalens> hmm, would the manufacturer have anything to do with it?
[09:12] <dsquare> my gedit-root and sudo gedit won't work!! gedit will launch though.. why please? i jhust upgraded to edgy
[09:12] <pbureau> kgalens, the rev of the chipset does.
[09:12] <kgalens> I tried using ndiswrapper, yes
[09:12] <hossasaur> where can i find partition information for my hd?
[09:12] <pbureau> kgalens, do a lspci and look for the wifi card, copy and paste only that one line info here please
[09:12] <LiENUS> dsquare,  try "gksudo gedit"
[09:12] <kgalens> ah, well I'm not at the computer yet, and I don't remember the version
[09:12] <hossasaur> i just want to know the root entries
[09:13] <horizon> alright, I'm trying to debug my manpages, because I can't get to any C-related ones, like strcpy.
[09:13] <kgalens> pburueau: thanks for the help, I'll have to come back in when I'm at the computer
[09:13] <hossasaur> i can't find gparted, and qtparted only sees my usb drive
[09:13] <pbureau> kgalens, ok well when you do come and visit #ubuntu-wifi I should be on, Ill help you check it all out
[09:13] <kgalens> pbureau: thanks!
[09:13] <dsquare> (gedit:6822): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:13] <dsquare> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:13] <dsquare> zomg
[09:13] <dsquare> im just gonna reboot i think
[09:14] <dsquare> bbl :)
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have a thinkpad? I simply wish to scroll either up or down the page, which it does for a slight moment, then depending on the pressure I apply to the trackpoint it will revisit the last page visited
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> this didn't happen in Hoary, and my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the same
[09:14] <LiENUS> Caplain,  cool
[09:15] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, I know this isn't an answer, but I chose to disable the touchpad and use the buttons of the trackpoint.
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, scrolling requires the trackpoint buttons as well as the trackpoint
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> pressure at the same time
[09:15] <pbureau> CaptainMorgan, do you use gnome, didyou check the settings in system-preferences -mouse ?
[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> unless you're using the standard scroll bar to the right hand side
[09:16] <danny> Hi folks! I'm mostly a noobie at this linux thing. Anyway, can someone tell me how to install a program under KDE as a super user. When I try to enter my password under "Execute Shell Command" I just get a Konqueror box that won't let me type anything.
[09:16] <pbureau> danny, sudo
[09:16] <CaptainMorgan> pbureau, not much to configure there ;)
[09:16] <joeljkp> wow, that was easy
[09:16] <joeljkp> dhclient.conf
[09:17] <CaptainMorgan> pbureau,  unless it's a sensitivity issue
[09:17] <pbureau> CaptainMorgan, not familiar with the scroll point on an IBM, but mine give me issues on my toshiba when I have exteral mouse connected to it..
[09:17] <danny> pbureau, I type sudo before the command but I just get a box asking for my password but won't let me type anything.
[09:18] <pbureau> danny,  hummm
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> no externals connected here pbureau, hmm..
[09:18] <pbureau> CaptainMorgan, just trying to help :) eliminations you know...
[09:18] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, could you elaborate? Mine is working fine.
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> pbureau, understood, thank you
[09:19] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, elaborate on which portion?
[09:19] <pbureau> CaptainMorgan, maybe check IBM website (doubt they can help but..) maybe have a driver for it..? or maybe do a broadband search on google for linux and ibm touchpad ? and see if anyone else had this issue and possibly find a solution.. sorry all I got in my hat...
[09:19] <linux_kid> When I play online embedded videos with the Mplayer Mozilla Plugin, only sound occurs, no movie, any help?
[09:19] <alvarezp> How exactly are you trying to scroll? I have no other option here but to drag the scrollbar.. I was wandering if you were doing it some other way.
[09:20] <hossasaur> LiENUS: i'm almost positive it's already set up correctly
[09:20] <hossasaur> LiENUS: it detected vista when i installed grub
[09:20] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  you might be running into vista's drm then
[09:20] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, steps: I open a page, google.com. I browse to a search result. I like the result and I decide to scroll to the bottom of the page using the trackpoint buttons and trackpoint at the same time. About half way through I am taken back to the previous search engine result - previous page.
[09:20] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, (forgot to ping)
[09:21] <hossasaur> LiENUS: because it boots to the load screen for vista, then hangs
[09:21] <danny> OK, I'm trying to install VMware. When I try "Execute Shell Command" in Konq using the command './vmware-install.pl' it asks for my password, but when I enter sudo before that I just get a box that won't let me type anything.
[09:21] <ddude> Help!!! mY cisco vpnclient stopt working after update !?!?
[09:21] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  sounds like drm
[09:21] <hossasaur> LiENUS: how do i get around this? others seem to have no troubles
[09:21] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, "using the trackpoint buttons and trackpoint at the same time" -- Are you dragging the scroll bar?
[09:21] <chump> hi everyone
[09:22] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, sorry for too much asking, just trying to duplicate the problem here.
[09:22] <ddude> serious problem: mY cisco vpnclient stopt working after update !?!? help pleaase
[09:23] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, not dragging anything, including a scroll bar. My mouse pointer is simply concetrated on the current page, and I simply depress the left trackpoint button AND the trackpoint(pushed or scrolled down)
[09:23] <craigbass76> I need to install the samba package where there's no internet access.  What do I need to do?
[09:23] <hossasaur> LiENUS: actually, is there a way to check the hd's root directories?
[09:23] <ddude> this is a serious issue please help me out to understand why after an update, i cannot start my vpnclient iTS inSANE
[09:23] <hossasaur> iirc, vista was on sda0 or something
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, it won't scroll unless I depress the left trackpoint button.. otherwise if I just move the trackpoint it's just as if I am moving a mouse pointer around
[09:24] <LiENUS> hossasaur, df -h
[09:24] <LiENUS> paste the line
[09:24] <LiENUS> paste the first moutn line
[09:24] <LiENUS> first mount line
[09:24] <clustu> hey
[09:24] <ubuntuTEMP> hi, i just restarted and had an X FAILED TO START Message, so im reinstalling, how do i see my partitions? they arnt showing up in computer
[09:24] <Seeker`> ~/wc
[09:24] <clustu> which package contains man pages for C routines?
[09:24] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the same as in Hoary, setup according to ThinkWiki
[09:24] <LJHarb> i need to recompile mysql to use the sphinx search engine, im using ubuntu dapper and am quite new to linux. can anyone walk me through it?
[09:25] <danny> Would Kubuntu Feisty Herd 3 be stable enough for daily-to-day use?
[09:25] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, I just can't seem to achieve any scrolling at all like that. -- What browser? And, are you using a plugin?
[09:25] <hossasaur> LiENUS: it doesn't show my vista partition, but it does show my ext3 and fat32
[09:25] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, you may not have your xorg.conf setup to allow scrolling as I have
[09:25] <hossasaur> which are both sda's
[09:25] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  paste the first line
[09:26] <marcel> I am trying to send an email with evolution and get this message: "could not send message : broken pipe
[09:26] <ddude> ubuntu, with kernel update screws up my whole system configuration?! WHERE IS MY OLD KERNEL CONFIGURATION PLEASE!! I NEED TO WORK NOW
[09:26] <ubuntuTEMP> hi, i just restarted and had an X FAILED TO START Message, so im reinstalling, how do i see my partitions? they arnt showing up in computer
[09:26] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, paste xorg.conf
[09:26] <hossasaur> /dev/sda2              15G  2.5G   12G  18% /
[09:26] <duckdown> Hey all.. Got a question, it is SSH/PuTTY related.  In putty, you can open a SOCKS port that is available to outside users by clicking an option off in tunnels.  I have gotten it to listen locally manually using ssh by doing 'ssh -D#### hostname' then I can use #### as a proxy, but how do I make it available to ALL users on my network like Putty
[09:26] <hossasaur> LiENUS: /dev/sda2              15G  2.5G   12G  18% /
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp,
[09:26] <LiENUS> hmm then apparently for some reason you are using scsi hossasaur ...
[09:26] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  thisi s a laptop?
[09:26] <hossasaur> LiENUS: yessir
[09:27] <LiENUS> hossasaur, what brand?
[09:27] <hossasaur> hp dv2035us
[09:27] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, /me is checking.
[09:27] <LJHarb> i need to recompile mysql to use the sphinx search engine, im using ubuntu dapper and am quite new to linux. can anyone walk me through it?
[09:27] <LiENUS> 1 sec..
[09:27] <CaptainMorgan> paste mine? it's same as in that page... Ill paste it anyways... alvarezp
[09:27] <LiENUS> might be something like sata..
[09:27] <hossasaur> that must be it
[09:28] <duckdown> Is there an SSH channel?
[09:28] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, it's ok.
[09:28] <ubuntuTEMP> how do i mount /dev/sda2 and see it in nautilus?
[09:28] <moconnor> linxeh: Grepping the output of apt-get -q -s dist-upgrade is exactly what I needed.  Thank you
[09:28] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, I'm looking at that one. I'll try to set up mine.
[09:29] <KarlosII> where do i find the php.ini file?
[09:29] <marcel> anyone knows Evolution?
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, here is my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/3GyN6H21.html
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, let me know yours goes :)
[09:29] <CaptainMorgan> *how
[09:29] <ddude> question: Kernel update screws up my cisco vpn client and my video card driver....this i would have never thought.  please, i really appreciate if someone can help me understand here why these things can happen, because i like ubuntu very much BUT THIS CANNOT HAPPEN
[09:29] <ubuntuTEMP> how do i mount /dev/sda2 and see it in nautilus?
[09:30] <hossasaur> LiENUS: why would linux boot if it's set the same way?
[09:30] <Lynoure> marcel: me. But if you want an answer to something, you'll have to tell to what.
[09:30] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  pastebin lspci
[09:30] <LiENUS> hossasaur, run "lspci" and pastebin the output
[09:30] <linux_kid> Do I need to do anything else besides install the package "mplayer-mozilla" to play videos in Firefox with Mplayer??
[09:30] <quaal> why is it that i can login to my ubuntu share with winxp fine but macosx is saying the login is incorrect
[09:30] <soundray> ddude: try this 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[09:30] <marcel> yes, I get this message" could not send mesage:broken pipe"
[09:30] <ubuntuTEMP> how do i mount /dev/sda2 and see it in nautilus?
[09:31] <fbarc> Everytime I run "sudo fsck -t vfat /dev/sdc1" it tells me that my backup and original boot sectors do not match. Neither option 1(copy original 2 backup) nor 2 (copy backup to original) do anything to fix the problem.. It always ends in filesystem unchanged... what do I do?
[09:31] <shadowhywind> anyone know if there is a way to get limit the ammount of ram that a single person uses
[09:31] <ddude> soundray: thanks very very much for responding
[09:31] <finn> during the installation something runs which detects USB drives and creates folders in /media for them
[09:31] <nusa42> soundray: Ok - looks like my init.d/widescreen script is executed too late. How would I change the boot priority?
[09:31] <linux_kid> ddude, these apps are kernel-specific, they must be installed for each kernel.  If this is a problem, stick with one kernel and only change for major releases.
[09:31] <profoX`> any idea why sudo or gdebi-gtk would do something like that? lock up my soundcard?
[09:31] <finn> can I manually run that on a already running system to detect new external drives and have the folders and mounts created?
[09:31] <profoX`> it locked up my soundcard :/
[09:31] <hossasaur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982/
[09:32] <hossasaur> LiENUS: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5982/
[09:32] <profoX`> /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p GNOME_SUDO_PASS -u root -- gdebi-gtk --non-interactive /tmp/*.deb <-- i had to kill that process
[09:32] <ddude> linux_kid: where is my old kernel?? is it removed?
[09:32] <soundray> nusa42: check the links to widescreen in '/etc/rc?.d' and rename them with lower leading numbers
[09:32] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  ok its sata...
[09:32] <hzw> Can somebody please help me with sound on my laptop?
[09:32] <linux_kid> ddude, it still should appear in GRUB
[09:32] <ddude> linux_kid, it isn;t
[09:32] <finn> it would make things a lot easier
[09:33] <padge> sigger_: I got it worked out
[09:33] <hossasaur> LiENUS: so if i change the hd to sd in menu.lst, it should work
[09:33] <hzw> It works on the live disc, and it used to work in the regular install, but now I just cannot get any sound...
[09:33] <nusa42> soundray: allright...
[09:33] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  doubt it
[09:33] <sigger_> padge: what'd you do?
[09:33] <LiENUS> hossasaur, sata is ide
[09:33] <dimeotane> anyone know of a program in ubuntu that I can use like a "notebook" for  collecting images, and text.. kind of like a digital scrapbook
[09:33] <linux_kid> ddude, ok, go in to synaptic and search "linux image" and tell me which kernel numbers are installed
[09:33] <fbarc> hzw: what 's happening, or better said what isn't happening?
[09:33] <slippyr4> how can i tell what package a given tool is in? eg. I need fsck.ntfs . where can i find out what package it'd be in?
[09:33] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  nm apparently sata uses sd in grub
[09:33] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  yeah change it from hd to sd
[09:33] <LiENUS> and try
[09:34] <padge> sigger_: As it turns out, group membership doesn't permeate until you log into the session, which means all instances of programs you run within that session, terminals, nautilus, etc.  I had to log out and log back in.
[09:34] <LJHarb> when i use apt-get source package, where is the source downloaded to?
[09:34] <hzw> fbarc: there just is no sound at all, at no point
[09:34] <hossasaur> LiENUS: be back, thanks for the help
[09:34] <linux_kid> ddude, actually, search "linux image 2.6"
[09:34] <LiENUS> heh
[09:34] <LiENUS> im out...
[09:34] <ddude> linux_kid, oke, will check
[09:34] <sigger_> padge: that sounds weird and counterintuitive, but glad it worked out
[09:35] <ddude> linux_kid, there both installed
[09:35] <yettenet> Is there a way to set my default fontset to a specific one?
[09:35] <linux_kid> ddude, what are they, like 2.6.17-11-generic or what?
[09:35] <hzw> fbarc: even though everything seems fine and my card is recognized, etc.
[09:35] <goban> i have to rinstall, how do i transfer my firefox bookmarks?
[09:35] <slippyr4> how can i tell what package a given tool is in? eg. I need fsck.ntfs . where can i find out what package it'd be in?
[09:35] <padge> sigger_: I checked it first with a real terminal.  I logged in there and it worked as expected, so I restarted X and everything was go.
[09:35] <ddude>  2.6.17-11-generic en  2.6.17-10-generic
[09:36] <hossasaur> LiENUS: ugh, it says i can't save the file because i don't have permission
[09:36] <padge> sigger_: Anyway, there's a bit of trivia for ya to help yourself of others with.  Thanks for going through it with me.  It saved the other guy all that time.
[09:36] <linux_kid> ddude, enter "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" in a terminal
[09:36] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  edit it with sudo
[09:36] <Red_Tide> I require some assistance my brother desperately wants to install ubuntu but he has run into some problems with getting x to work properly
[09:36] <LiENUS> hossasaur,  run sudo  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:36] <fbarc> hzw:  might be disabled at the bios level.. please check it..
[09:36] <LiENUS> hossasaur, im about to leave
[09:36] <LJHarb> when i use apt-get source package, where is the source downloaded to?
[09:36] <nusa42> soundray: it's in the rc5.d directory.
[09:36] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, works fine here. Middle+drag down and middle+drag up does scrolling. -- Middle+drag left and middle+drag right does browser back/forward.
[09:36] <goban> i have to rinstall, how do i transfer my firefox bookmarks?
[09:36] <hossasaur> LiENUS: thanks for the help
[09:37] <Red_Tide> when x starts he gets an error message
[09:37] <HymnToLife> goban, did you make a separate /home parittion ?
[09:37] <hzw> fbarc: nobody went into the BIOS settings and it has worked...
[09:37] <linux_kid> ddude, you there yet?
[09:37] <sigger_> padge: I learned something new.  Thanks.
[09:38] <padge> sigger_: :)
[09:38] <goban> HymnToLife: not yet, but i have access to my old one
[09:38] <Red_Tide> I think he needs the ati fglrx drivers as he has an ati card but i am not entirely sure how to go about installing them as I am not an ubuntu user myself and have a nvidia card
[09:38] <Kilroy> anyone know any good wireless tutorials?
[09:38] <linux_kid> ddude, ?...?
[09:38] <linux_kid> !wifi | Kilroy
[09:38] <ubotu> Kilroy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:39] <igor47> does anyone know how to send a file to a windows box via infrared?  the windows system and the ubuntu system discover one another, i'm just not sure what command to run to send a file...
[09:39] <Kilroy> !thx
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <LJHarb> anyone? where would the source directory be found when downloading source with apt-get?
[09:39] <linux_kid> Welcome Kilroy
[09:39] <slippyr4> is there a way to install a "minimal" gnome? rather the the several hundred packages ubuntu-desktop wants to install?
[09:39] <linux_kid> slippyr4, xubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <cherva> hi can someone tell me a torrent program witch i can minimize to the tray
[09:40] <slippyr4> linux-kid - that's xfce though isn't it?
[09:40] <Red_Tide> can someoe direct me to an ati-fglrx guide for ubyuntu?
[09:40] <LjL> slippyr4: you could probablt install the "gnome" package
[09:40] <slippyr4> and it's still a bucketload of packages
[09:40] <linux_kid> cherva, wine utorrent
[09:40] <IVBela> do someone know a program that i can use to monitor my ubuntu from winxp on a lan, in real time?
[09:40] <HymnToLife> cherva, ktorrent... in KDE :p
[09:40] <lnxmomo> hi
[09:40] <IVBela> i mean like cpu and mem usage, network, etc
[09:40] <linux_kid> slippyr4, xfce is really gnome pulled down
[09:41] <lnxmomo> did anyone ever have a problem wid kde not installing themes?
[09:41] <cherva> Gnome pls not KDE
[09:41] <soundray> nusa42: do you know what to do?
[09:41] <HymnToLife> IVBela, ssh :)
[09:41] <lnxmomo> mine does not want to install any
[09:41] <igor47> IVBela: look into snmp.  i'm not sure how to do it, but its a place to start...
[09:41] <LjL> slippyr4: actually, make it "gnome-desktop-environment", since "gnome" is rather bigger
[09:41] <linux_kid> !seen ddude
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ddude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <LjL> slippyr4: "gnome-core" is smaller even
[09:41] <IVBela> i thought there might be a tool for that
[09:41] <bauer77> Red_Tide: what are you trying to do?
[09:41] <bluefox83> i seem to be having trouble with mysql not allowing local programs to connect and access the database...anyone know how to solve that?
[09:41] <LjL> Xfce doesn't have anything to do with GNOME apart from being based on GTK, afaik
[09:42] <cherva> i tried with azereus but it minimizes to nowhere and i have to kill the process
[09:42] <linux_kid> LjL, they look strikingly similar
[09:42] <Red_Tide> install ati fglrx drivers so x will work on my bro's system
[09:42] <HymnToLife> bluefox83, not without more info, what does mysql say when you try toconnect ?
[09:42] <LjL> linux_kid: that does not *make* them similar
[09:42] <linux_kid> LjL, I see some copying going on ...
[09:42] <hzw> fbarc: how do I check whether the correct driver is loaded for my soundcard?
[09:43] <bluefox83> HymnToLife, it seems to always say that it's trying to connect with the password "YES" which isn't true...
[09:43] <nusa42>  soundray: tried to alter the Sxx number from S99 to S13 - didn't do the job however... should it be moved to lower RCx.d level?
[09:43] <marcel> how to you set up Evolution?
[09:43] <LjL> linux_kid: copying of looks and interface style is one thing, sharing of libraries and copying of code is quite another thing. i can make my KDE look very much like a default GNOME, if i wanted to
[09:43] <soundray> nusa42: no, probably not
[09:43] <HymnToLife> bluefox83, then I'd guss the problem come from the program that tries to connect to mysql
[09:43] <babo> what's the php/mysql package called again ?
[09:43] <mc44> LjL: and you should, cos its better
[09:43] <HymnToLife> not mysql itself
[09:43] <nusa42> soundray: it's being loaded after gdm... is that a problem?
[09:44] <HymnToLife> !php5-mysql
[09:44] <ubotu> php5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 108 kB
[09:44] <bluefox83> HymnToLife, i've had the same exact problem with two totally different programs..
[09:44] <pbureau> mc44, "cos its better" is a windows saying
[09:44] <linux_kid> LjL, good point, slippyr4 sounded like he wanted a GNOME GUI, not GNOME coding
[09:44] <soundray> nusa42: yes! :)
[09:44] <mc44> pbureau: yes, Im just kidding :)
[09:44] <linux_kid> !seen ddude
[09:44] <nusa42> heh - that figures.
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ddude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <LJHarb> so does /anyone/ know how to recompile mysql on dapper?
[09:44] <slippyr4> technically i need a gtk and X
[09:45] <slippyr4> right now i have console
[09:45] <LjL> linux_kid, slippyr4 just asked how he could get GNOME without all the 600megs of stuff that come with the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[09:45] <slippyr4> and i want minimal crap
[09:45] <yettenet> ubotu default charset
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about default charset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <linux_kid> LjL, "k"onversation over
[09:45] <ddude> linux_kid,sounray: guys, i checked my grub, it's all there, try to boot them all and i get Starting /opt/cisco-vpnclient/bin/vpnclient: module directory /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/CiscoVPN not found.
[09:45] <pbureau> mc44,  i know :)
[09:46] <LjL> slippyr4: that's different then, just install a login manager such as XDM (or GDM, but that will get GNOME libraries installed), and then go your way happily
[09:46] <HymnToLife> ddude, seems you need a kernel module that isn't there
[09:46] <linux_kid> ddude, odd, is the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel in GRUB?
[09:46] <soundray> ddude: you need to reinstall the CiscoVPN modules, whereever you got them from in the first place
[09:46] <bluefox83> HymnToLife, would a special mysql package be needed for amarok or blootbot to use it?
[09:46] <gu014_> i am trying to recover an ntfs windows drive using an ubuntu 6.10 live cd. i have edited the /etc/fstab to read '/dev/cciss/c0d0  /media/windows ntfs  ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000  0 0' when i do a mount -a it says 'mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock'  any suggestions?
[09:46] <rbs-tito> Does anyone know if the rt61 drivers are going to be packaged with Feisty?
[09:47] <linux_kid> !ntfs | gu014_
[09:47] <fbarc> Everytime I run "sudo fsck -t vfat /dev/sdc1" it tells me that my backup and original boot sectors do not match. Neither option 1(copy original 2 backup) nor 2 (copy backup to original) do anything to fix the problem.. It always ends in filesystem unchanged... what do I do?
[09:47] <ubotu> gu014_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:47] <karly> hey royel u still here?
[09:47] <linux_kid> !ntfs-3g | gu014_
[09:47] <ubotu> gu014_: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:47] <Julian87> hrhr
[09:47] <HymnToLife> bluefox83, not that I know of, it's more likely a configuration problem
[09:47] <fbarc> hzw: Tyr going to SYSTEM:ADMINISTRATION:DEVICE MANAGER and find your sound device..
[09:47] <denni> anyone got some experience on running gdesklets here?
[09:48] <ddude> linux_kid, it is in grub...i didn;t looked well, i try booting every kernel in grub and try to start vpnclient like 'sudo /etc/init.d/vpnclient_init start'
[09:48] <slippyr4> how can i remove the reference to the cd from my repositories list so i no longer need the cd, it just downloads everything
[09:48] <yettenet> How can I change the default charset on my system?
[09:48] <ddude> linux_kid, but i don't get it started
[09:48] <linux_kid> ddude, looks like it needs to be reinstalled
[09:48] <bluefox83> HymnToLife, what sort of configuration problem? is there someplace where i can tell it to allow local access or something?
[09:48] <dacks> what is the difference between ntfsutils and this new ntfs-3g
[09:48] <linux_kid> slippyr4, dapper or edgy
[09:48] <karly> i just installed ubuntu and the screen is really messed up the left half is fine but the middle and right are like shifted and copied multiple times
[09:48] <rbs-tito> slippyr4: system, administration, software sources. Uncheck the CD box
[09:48] <fbarc> hzw: see what it says for device type and do a search on google for <device name> UBUNTU
[09:48] <karly> ne1 know what to do
[09:49] <soundray> slippyr4: find the 'deb cdrom' line and comment it out with a # at the beginning
[09:49] <linux_kid> dacks, ntfs-3g is just a different approach
[09:49] <denni> im wondering if there is anyway to start gdesklets and get it to hide the desklets from gnome? i dont want to see my desklets when im tabbing and such
[09:49] <slippyr4> only got command line, need to  edit file. what file!?
[09:49] <_JECKEL_> Question...what would be involved in putting ubuntu onto an external hard drive
[09:49] <_JECKEL_> ?
[09:49] <dacks> linux_kid, did they fix the <2gb file size bug?
[09:49] <dacks> >2gb sorry
[09:50] <babo> guys, I've used the ubuntu repos to install lamp. But php doesn't have mysql installed ...
[09:50] <nusa42> soundray: should I alter all linked rcx.d scripts? (rc2, 3 and 5)
[09:50] <nevron> i changed my sound card but ubuntu still uses the soundcard that i have disabled what can i do to fix this
[09:50] <_JECKEL_> like...if I wanna put ubuntu on an external hard drive so I don't have to partition my laptop drive?
[09:50] <babo> I have php5-mysql installed ...
[09:50] <linux_kid> dacks, im not sure, but all my iso's are under 2gb, so i dont care
[09:50] <slippyr4> which file defines repositories?
[09:50] <rbs-tito> babo, just get the php apache modules from the repositories
[09:50] <VrilutZa> need help this it's a my probleme
[09:50] <VrilutZa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5985/
[09:50] <soundray> nusa42: I
[09:50] <HymnToLife> bluefox83, try to connect to it from the command line
[09:50] <HymnToLife> and see if that works
[09:50] <ddude> soundray,linux_kid yeah..oke, i will install it again, on my 3 machines i have, no kidding, i worked almost flawless since november last year, i deleted every windows crap i had. But i think this is weird.
[09:50] <soundray> nusa42: I'm not sure, this is dirty-hack territory
[09:51] <linux_kid> slippyr4, its called sources.list, but not sure where its located
[09:51] <Smyds> Hello
[09:51] <VrilutZa> make[2] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[09:51] <VrilutZa> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[09:51] <VrilutZa> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[09:51] <Smyds> I have got a HP ScanJet 4600, and it is not supported by sane
[09:51] <_JECKEL_> nobody have an idea?
[09:51] <soundray> ddude: no, this is natural. If you install a new kernel, it won't have the extra modules that you got for the old one.
[09:51] <Smyds> What can I do ?
[09:51] <slippyr4> . /etc/apt/sources/list, thanks
[09:52] <ddude> soundray, but i have my old kernel, and there it won't work either, so...
[09:52] <bluefox83> HymnToLife, never had trouble connecting via command line
[09:52] <bwilson> How do I change the default web browser so it is Firefox and not stupid Konqueror
[09:52] <soundray> ddude: you've somehow managed to delete parts of your old kernel installation.
[09:52] <babo> rbs-tito, yes, I did that already ...
[09:52] <gu014_> how can i get the ntfs-3g without an internet connection?
[09:52] <ddude> soundray, i only clicked update
[09:52] <linux_kid> bwilson, in ff, edit, prefs, set firefox default
[09:52] <st3> hi everybody. please don't use ubuntu feisty kernel until fixed if you want to use bcm43xx driver, thank you
[09:52] <rbs-tito> babo, did you try restarting apache?
[09:52] <HymnToLife> bluefox83, then the problem doesn't come from your mysql ;)
[09:52] <linux_kid> ddude, thats all it takes
[09:53] <ddude> soundray, and its happened on my 2 laptops and main machine
[09:53] <bluefox83> HymnToLife, whats the stardard connection port when connecting to mysql @ localhost?
[09:53] <Smyds> I can't use my scanner !!
[09:53] <nusa42> soundray: heh - well altering the rc5.d only, didn't quite do it - the BIOS hack is applied, but X server hasn't not recognized it - If I shutdown X and start it again - then it works... so the script must be executed too late.
[09:53] <babo> rbs-tito, yeah, the restart did it :-)
[09:53] <f_> ciao
[09:53] <babo> thanksk
[09:54] <nusa42> (arghh.. damn HD check!)
[09:54] <linux_kid> HELP! MPlayer won't play embedded firefox videos, only sound!?
[09:54] <ddude> linux_kid, i would have never thought this in my life...once i compiled a kernel myself, just for fun, and my old kernel were still intact
[09:54] <f_> qualcuno mi da una dritta su una wireless che non va??
[09:54] <st3> f_, i just said
[09:54] <st3> please don't use ubuntu feisty kernel until fixed if you want to use bcm43xx driver, thank you
[09:54] <rbs-tito> linux_kid: I got that, try getting gstreamer & al plugins instead
[09:54] <bluefox83> linux_kid, mess with your video output settings in mplayer
[09:54] <st3> just in case you have bcm43xx
[09:54] <karly> hey, i just installed ubuntu and my monitors display is al messed up, ne1 have any ideas on what i should do. the left side is fine but the middle and right is all fuzzy and shifted
[09:54] <linux_kid> rbs-tito, bluefox83 thanks, ill try
[09:55] <nevron> can you tell me how i can assign a different soundcard for ubuntu to use by default
[09:55] <linux_kid> ddude, thats cause you compiled it, some wifi drivers do the same thing
[09:55] <rbs-tito> nevron: You have two present?
[09:56] <SeamusLP> http://www.digg.com/videos/educational/Rat_with_spinal_cord_injury_cured_with_embryonic_stem_cells
[09:57] <nusa42> soundray: Hmm .. altering all entries didn't work either... any other ideas?
[09:57] <rbs-tito> SeamusLP: Tried an update?
[09:57] <wasabi__> how do i change user access level for programs? say like wine
[09:57] <soundray> nusa42: perhaps there is a way to call the script from /etc/init.d/gdm (dirty, dirty hack!)
[09:57] <SeamusLP> rbs-tito: what now?
[09:58] <rbs-tito> SeamusLP: It was a joke, to fix your deformed rat problem
[09:58] <_JECKEL_> ...guess nobody knows...
[09:58] <marcko> Hello. I'm having problems with my internet connection. It's not always  but sometimes, after a few minutes of inactivity, the system gets disconnected. I'm using knetworkmanager to connect to the net
[09:58] <soundray> nusa42: I'm off now, hope you find a way...
[09:58] <UltimateX> Yay Ubuntu
[09:58] <UltimateX> its awesome
[09:58] <karly> lol jeckel same for me =/
[09:58] <linux_kid> bluefox83, which plugin should i use, vlc or totem?
[09:59] <nusa42> soundray: Thank you soo much for the help!!
[09:59] <nevron> rbs-tito:in gnome under sound preferences in the sound tab the default sound card reads mpu-401 UART i switch it to SBLVE! 24-BIT external but it turns back to the uart
[09:59] <mwe> wasabi_: anyone should be able to run wine
[09:59] <_JECKEL_> not the first time this happened
[09:59] <Lynoure> _JECKEL_: I have heard it is possible, googled for it?
[09:59] <marcko> Is there another way to connect to internet instead of knetworkmanager
[09:59] <rbs-tito> wasabi__: does it matter? If they don't run as root they can't do anything with them anyway. Othe r than that you could assign each user to a specific group
[09:59] <eontasticness> hey all
[09:59] <erUSUL> wasabi__: create a group, say wine, and chgrp the wine exec to that group then make it only exec by members of the group. Add to the group the users you want
[09:59] <SeamusLP> rbs-tito: don't be an ass, digg me :P
[09:59] <_JECKEL_> yes I have
[09:59] <eontasticness> I need a Backup Software that will control a tape drive that is TARDPROOF for ubuntu
[09:59] <bluefox83> linux_kid, if you're watching stuff in your browser, mplayer or vlc would be my suggestions...
[09:59] <eontasticness> preferably one available from apt
[10:00] <wasabi__> hmm thanks guys i will try that
[10:00] <linux_kid> bluefox83, ok
[10:00] <rbs-tito> SeamusLP: Will do, and the word is 'arse'
[10:00] <mwe> !wifi | marcko
[10:00] <ubotu> marcko: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:00] <bluefox83> eontasticness, we generally don't suggest software not in apt
[10:00] <eontasticness> !backup
[10:00] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:00] <SeamusLP> rbs-tito: are you british?
[10:00] <wasabi__> actually, could i create a launcher that runs wine @ su level?
[10:00] <Lynoure> eontasticness: I have no idea what tardproof is but amanda is stable and well documented
[10:00] <marcko> I'm not using wifi
[10:00] <rbs-tito> SeamusLP: How did you guess? :P
[10:01] <nevron> rbs-tito:in gnome under sound preferences in the sound tab the default sound card reads mpu-401 UART i switch it to SBLVE! 24-BIT external but it turns back to the uart
[10:01] <eontasticness> Lynoure: ive used amanda forever but this is something i have a windows user going out to set up, because we are in a bind
[10:01] <marcko> I'm not using wifi, mwe
[10:01] <bluefox83> wasabi_, why would you want to run wine with super user privledges?
[10:01] <ddude> soundray,linux_kid, yeah well, please tell me your point of view: i update my system..cisco doesn't work...at all, on none of the kernels..so why is there a kernel update in the updates from ubuntu? and if it is, it should warn you for these problems as well? what is happened with my old kernel configuration, why does it CiscoVPN not found, while it was installed perfectly under 2.6.17-10-generic. please, i just want to understand why this can happen
[10:01] <mwe> wasabi_: make it run kdesu wine. why, though?
[10:01] <eontasticness> Lynoure: and i need something that an Ubuntu user can install
[10:01] <eontasticness> Lynoure: ie a linux relative noob
[10:01] <_JECKEL_> lol
[10:01] <wasabi__> mwe, because i try to run utorrent at normal level and settings won't save
[10:01] <SeamusLP> rbs-tito: it was the outrageous accent!
[10:02] <rbs-tito> nevron: Why won't it do to have multiple cards managed at once? Both of mine work simultaneously
[10:02] <chump> hi
[10:02] <mwe> marcko: well configure your interface. /etc/network/interfaces. see man interfaces and/or ask further questions
[10:02] <linux_kid> ddude, this is a normal problem, you won't be warned, just be aware
[10:02] <Lynoure> eontasticness: I'd still say amanda they can, but some non-newbie might have to send them the configuration files, if they are non-daring
[10:02] <rbs-tito> SeamusLP: Awful weather lately, care for a crumpet?
[10:02] <mwe> wasabi__: settings?
[10:02] <chump> can someone help me get my nvidia driver working on ubuntu 6.10 please ?
[10:02] <marcko> ok mwe, thank you
[10:02] <erUSUL> ubotu tell chump about nvidia | chump see priv msg from ubotu
[10:03] <wasabi__> like utorrent specific settings, like saving torrent files in the cache, connection settings
[10:03] <Sensae> I've got Beryl running on the Radeon drivers, but since I installed the Radeon drivers X seems to ignore resolutions set in xorg.conf. Can someone help?
[10:03] <SeamusLP> rbs-tito: only if a cup of earl grey is involved
[10:03] <eontasticness> Lynoure: are there any amanda guis in the repos?
[10:03] <mwe> wasabi__: did you run sudo wine at some point or something?
[10:03] <nevron> rbs-tito how can a bios disabled onboard card work?
[10:04] <mwe> wasabi__: if so the perms of .wine could be skewed
[10:04] <rbs-tito> rbs-tito: I'm more partial to a Darjeeling at this hour.
[10:04] <doofy2> what do you suggest to import video from a dv cam over firewire... dvgrab splits the files up in to 1gb pieces which is quite annoying
[10:04] <rbs-tito> *SeamusLP: I'm more partial to a Darjeeling at this hour.
[10:04] <wasabi__> mwe, oh hmm yea i usually run sudo wine
[10:04] <dc2447> Right - new Ubuntu webserver install - some php files work - some download - both have the same permissions, ownership and use the same tags - any ideas?
[10:04] <hzw> fbarc: the sound is on in the bios
[10:04] <mwe> wasabi__: dont't ;)
[10:04] <rbs-tito> nevron: If you need both leave it enabled, I've got a machine with two cards working at once
[10:04] <Lynoure> eontasticness: guis? No idea. Automatically running backup software rarely needs a gui
[10:04] <wasabi__> mwe, hah okay. i will try it again
[10:04] <dooglus> mwe: if you don't run 'sudo wine', how is the malware going to install itself properly?
[10:05] <mwe> wasabi__: as normal user chown -R $(whoami) ~/.wine
[10:05] <fbarc> hzw: did you find the device in the device manager under administration?
[10:05] <hzw> I have the following when I do aplay -l:  http://pastebin.com/881654
[10:05] <Lynoure> eontasticness: But if you are a firm believer in guis, maybe bacula
[10:05] <wasabi__> thanks
[10:05] <nevron> ok i understand but i want to use the SBLIVE! as my default device somehow ubuntu doesnt let me set it as default
[10:05] <eontasticness> Lynoure: i know it doesnt for me, but this is a tard setting it up
[10:05] <ddude> linux_kid, yeah. oke. but i think 'updating' a kernel isn't the same as deleting a module cisco from my old kernel config.
[10:05] <mwe> dooglus: heh
[10:05] <hzw> Also the following in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:  http://pastebin.com/881654
[10:06] <mwe> wasabi__: actually chown -R $(whoami).$(whoami) ~/.wine
[10:06] <rbs-tito> ddude: When you update the kernel all the modules you inseted manually are no longer any good. The deb modules should reinstal themselves thouh
[10:06] <hzw> fbarc: excuse me the aplay -l is here:  http://pastebin.com/881653
[10:06] <linux_kid> ddude, its NORMAL, its OK, don't worry about it. have a soda and/or pop. relax
[10:06] <hzw> fbarc: yes the device is in the device manager...
[10:06] <Sensae> I've got Beryl running on the Radeon drivers, but since I installed the Radeon drivers X seems to ignore resolutions set in xorg.conf. Can someone help?
[10:06] <fbarc> hzw: I just lost power.. I'm on UPS right now.. I dunno how how long I'm gonna last
[10:06] <qos_> hey guys ... i ve got problems with my java environment. it runs most java apps, but some apps have problems ... mostly problems with resizing the gui (on windows there is no problem with this) and selecting files ... does somebody know these problems?
[10:06] <rbs-tito> fbarc: QUICK! BACKUP!
[10:06] <Lynoure> eontasticness: I'd then send them a script that configures it instead of looking for a gui
[10:07] <hzw> fbarc: wow in what country us that?
[10:07] <linux_kid> fbarc BACKUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:07] <LjL> !away > pic|away    (pic|away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:07] <linux_kid> NOW
[10:07] <SilentM> Small problem. I recently got a second monitor, and I've set it up using this: http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html tutorial.
[10:07] <linxeh> dacks:
[10:07] <SilentM> Only, the screens are set up the wrong way.
[10:07] <LjL> ... backup? for a power failure?
[10:07] <wasabi__> mwe, awesome! thank you
[10:07] <Smyds> arrrrgh !! http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/hp-scanjet-4600.html
[10:07] <Smyds> What can I do ?
[10:07] <mwe> wasabi__: I take it it's working now? ;)
[10:07] <SilentM> (It thinks the right screen is to the left of the left screen)
[10:08] <eetfunk> I can't seem to get this crontab line working.  I want to run the script every 5 minutes, what's wrong?:  */5 * * * * /etc/refresh_iptables_rules.py
[10:08] <wasabi__> mwe, yep i don't need to run with sudo anymore
[10:08] <mwe> wasabi__: good ;)
[10:08] <Red_Tide> what driver should be used for an ati x700se because the one ubuntu seems to load fails
[10:08] <rbs-tito> SilentM: Can't you just wap them around? :0
[10:08] <Ixan> Hey, is there any way to turn off the automount disks or the fsck on disks during the boot from the installation disk?
[10:08] <Sensae> SilentM: Switch the screens around. :p
[10:08] <dooglus> eetfunk: is it executable?  and does it begin with a #! line?
[10:08] <fbarc> rbs-tito: linux_kid: relax guys I have nothing open except xchat right now..
[10:08] <SilentM> Meh
[10:08] <ddude> rbs-tito,linux_kid oke, thanks again for your answers, i just wanted to understand, i will install it again and have a soda i guess..don't get me wrong though i really appreciate your support, i just wanted to understand why this is so i wined a bit about it. maybe it is because i give up smoking a few days ago ;) anyway laterrz
[10:08] <eetfunk> dooglus: yes and yes
[10:08] <jpc> 1075 users (: .
[10:08] <SilentM> They're place awkwardly.
[10:09] <SilentM> If I did that I'd be staring to my left constantly.
[10:09] <SilentM> == Pain
[10:09] <Sensae> 1077
[10:09] <fbarc> hzw: sometimes power is unpredictable here in Mexico..
[10:09] <dooglus> eetfunk: what if you run "sudo /etc/refresh_uiptables_rules.py" ?
[10:09] <jpc> Sensae, (: .
[10:09] <dooglus> (spelt right)
[10:09] <linux_kid> ddude, GREAT JOB ON QUITTING, keep it up!!!
[10:09] <wasabi__> mwe, btw what's a lite bt client native to linux that has a low memory footprint? i've tried transmission but i find that it's banned on some tracker
[10:09] <eetfunk> dooglus: it works fine
[10:09] <fbarc> hzw:  did you do a search on google with your device name?
[10:09] <LjL> linux_kid?!
[10:09] <dooglus> eetfunk: where are you putting that line?
[10:09] <Sensae> So anyone know anything about the radeon drivers + xorg.conf?
[10:09] <linux_kid> ddude, the quiting being about the smoking
[10:09] <rbs-tito> fbarc: You should talk to nlindblad, he has backups every 5 minutes in different towns
[10:10] <mwe> wasabi__: bittorrent I think. I don't use it much, though
[10:10] <Sensae> I've tried switching to fglrx / ati drivers and it stops ignoring the resolutions
[10:10] <linux_kid> LjL, he quit smoking, im encouraging him
[10:10] <eetfunk> dooglus: in /etc/crontab
[10:10] <rbs-tito> It's easy to quit smoking, I've done it 7 ties already this year
[10:10] <Sensae> but I can't get Beryl working in fglrx
[10:10] <ddude> linux_kid, hehe, thanks
[10:10] <wasabi__> mwe, okay thanks. i will look into it
[10:10] <mwe> wasabi__: or bittorrent-gui maybe
[10:10] <dooglus> eetfunk: is 'cron' running?
[10:10] <hzw> fbarc: I guess I am so used to that commodity
[10:10] <LjL> ddude, the kernel is not intended to support running modules for one version of it in another version of it. nor is the way the kernel is packaged in Ubuntu. so custom modules simply have to be fixed up, that's all
[10:10] <eetfunk> dooglus: yes
[10:10] <hzw> fbarc: I don't even think about it...
[10:10] <linux_kid> ddude, your welcome
[10:10] <SilentM> Anyone know if there's a way to change that or would I have to swap the monitors?
[10:11] <dooglus> eetfunk: I've no idea then.
[10:11] <hzw> fbarc: yes I did a search but couldn't find anything usefull
[10:11] <rbs-tito> SilentM: Can't you lie to Twinview and say they are the wrong way around?
[10:11] <dooglus> eetfunk: what are the permissions on /etc/crontab and /etc?
[10:11] <fbarc> hzw: I found a guy on the ubuntu forums with the same problem and there are some solutions..
[10:11] <hzw> fbarc: what I find weird is that it works in the live boot CD's
[10:11] <dooglus> eetfunk: ie ls -ld /etc{,/crontab}
[10:11] <SilentM> I'm such a nub, how would I go about doing that?
[10:11] <fbarc> hzw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1469365
[10:11] <rbs-tito> SilentM: Doesn't twinview have a GUI?
[10:11] <fbarc> hzw:  there are a few others..
[10:11] <fbarc> hzw: look around..
[10:12] <Sensae> Anyone know anything about the ATI / Radeon / fglrx drivers and max resolutions?
[10:12] <hzw> fbarc: I looked and did: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[10:12] <hzw> fbarc: did not help, I'll check your link
[10:12] <eetfunk> dooglus: /etc: drwxr-xr-x  /etc/crontab: -rw-r--r--
[10:12] <rbs-tito> Sensae: Do you have a proble with the ATI drivers?
[10:12] <ddude> LjL that sounds also logic,..i need to read more about kernel and modules i guess.
[10:12] <dooglus> eetfunk: and the owner of each?
[10:12] <Sensae> rbs-tito: I have a problem with the "radeon" drivers
[10:12] <Lynoure> Sensae: asking that way, yes. But I will unlikely be able to help you now.
[10:12] <huascar80> how can i rename the device icons on the desktop? no answer in the forums
[10:12] <SilentM> Not that I know of... ?
[10:13] <eetfunk> dooglus: root
[10:13] <SilentM> Then again, I don't know much.
[10:13] <fbarc> hzw: Yeah that's a VERY general non specific guide.. You need to find somethign specific to your problem/card
[10:13] <Sensae> I installed the radeon drivers, set it up in xorg.conf and all that. Since I've installed it it lists max resolution as 1600 x 1200, which is what the GDM login screen loads at.
[10:13] <dooglus> eetfunk: aah.  you need to put the word 'root' at the 6th argument
[10:13] <Sensae> in xorg.conf it's set to 1024 x 768 max for every color depth, it seems it's ignoring them
[10:13] <fbarc> hzw:  ok, my UPS is beeping very reapeatedly now.. I guess I'm gonna have to say goodbye.
[10:14] <hzw> fbarc: byr
[10:14] <hzw> fbarc: bye
[10:14] <fbarc> bye all..
[10:14] <hzw> fbarc: and thanks for the effort!
[10:14] <rbs-tito> Sensae: Swap the VGA cables?
[10:14] <darweth> does anyone know what Gnome Ubuntu uses? - dropline, freerock, gware?
[10:14] <Sensae> rbs-tito: Swap how so?
[10:14] <dooglus> eetfunk: "(/etc/crontab) uses the same format, except that the username for the command is specified after the time and date fields and before the command" <- man 5 crontab
[10:14] <fbarc> hzw: sorry I could be more helpful..
[10:14] <namuch> anyone know why /proc/cpuinfo is mis-reporting cpu speed for my core 2 duo, but is properly reporting the cpu type?
[10:14] <bwilson> Is there a keyboard shortcut to quickly switch between workspaces?
[10:14] <Sensae> rbs-tito: I have no onboard video and this is on a CRT
[10:15] <ikonia> namuch: you sure its not just scaled down
[10:15] <dooglus> bwilson: control-right?
[10:15] <rbs-tito> You can do it through Xorg.conf
[10:15] <dooglus> bwilson: or alt-control-right?
[10:15] <namuch> pretty sure, there is no speedstep or anything running, and the bios post shows the correct info
[10:15] <Sensae> rbs-tito: Which does / How do you do it?
[10:15] <bwilson> ya ctrl+alt arrow keys    thanks
[10:15] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, did you make any progress?
[10:16] <nacc> anyone have any experience replacing an Ubuntu ISO's installer kernel?
[10:16] <darweth> oh nvm.  that was a dumb question.  ignore it.
[10:16] <nacc> I have looked over https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization, but it's not covered there
[10:16] <ddude> oke, installed vpnclient succesfully, Starting /opt/cisco-vpnclient/bin/vpnclient: Done. back 2 work :)
[10:16] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, it worked correctly: middle+drag up/down = scroll up/down,   middle+drag left/right = back/forward.
[10:17] <nacc> the intuitive idea of building a kernel and replacing the kernel/initramfs in the iso and reburning sort of works, but the new kernel complains about not finding /dev/ram
[10:17] <linxeh> moconnor: glad it worked :)
[10:17] <hzw> fbarc: no problem...!
[10:17] <CaptainMorgan> alvarezp, omg.. thank you so much.. I didn't realize left/right was a functioning aspect
[10:17] <rbs-tito> Sensae: For example: In the device section of xorg.conf "Option    "TwinViewOrientation" "CRT-0 RightOf DFP-0""
[10:17] <CaptainMorgan> that's what it was.. if ever so slight
[10:18] <Sensae> rbs-tito: And what'll that do to the resolution?
[10:18] <eetfunk> dooglus: this still doesnt work:  */2 * * * * root /etc/refresh_iptables_rules.py
[10:18] <linxeh> alsa question-  anyone know of a reasonably priced, firewire 24 channel ADAT I/O that works with alsa (or an 8channel stackable?) ? I only want ADAT I/O, not fussed by analogue i/o
[10:18] <dave__> hi, i am really getting screwed up with the res.  i need it higher than 1024x768 but can see an option in the screen res to go that high.  any suggestions?
[10:18] <alvarezp> CaptainMorgan, ;-)
[10:18] <linxeh> dave__: you need to reconfigure X
[10:19] <rbs-tito> Sensae, that was intended for the person with the twinview issue sorry
[10:19] <Sensae> rbs-tito: I thought so, lol
[10:19] <rbs-tito> silenM: See my above writing to Sensae
[10:19] <fabio_> sorry guy...i have a big problem with suspend....my pc don't wake up after suspend....all led turn on...but monitor is black...anyone can help me?
[10:19] <romanosGR> i\m trying to install ubuntu and it says BUG : soft lockup detected on cpu0
[10:19] <romanosGR> ???????????
[10:19] <linxeh> dave__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:19] <dooglus> eetfunk: what does 'head -1 /etc/refresh_iptables_rules.py' show?
[10:19] <gu014_> i have installed the ntfs-3g and i am trying to recover some files from a raid 5. my /etc/fstab = /dev/cciss/c0d0  /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0'  when i attempt a mount -a it yields 'NTFS signature is missing,the device /dev/cciss/c0d0 doesnt have a valid ntfs'
[10:19] <ikonia> romanosGR: core 2 duo ?
[10:19] <nevron> rbs-tito as expected amarok refuses to work now :)
[10:19] <romanosGR> yeah
[10:20] <Sensae> rbs-tito: Well do you know how to set max resolution with the radeon drivers?
[10:20] <ikonia> romanosGR: edgy ?
[10:20] <linxeh> romanosGR: using lots of question marks doesn't make your question stand out any more :)
[10:20] <romanosGR> what?
[10:20] <nevron> xmms never worked in the first place
[10:20] <ikonia> romanosGR: edgy ?
[10:20] <dave__> linxeh: problem, i dunno what my graphics card is lol.  i check all my pc manuals and they are near useless
[10:20] <romanosGR> what do you mean edgy?
[10:20] <ikonia> ubuntu 6.10 - codename edgy
[10:20] <romanosGR> nbo idea
[10:20] <Sensae> romanosGR: Breezy (6.06) or Edgy (6.10) ?
[10:20] <romanosGR> 6.10
[10:20] <huascar80> I can't get a session as root!!!! help
[10:20] <Shaffox> romanosGR: type uname
[10:20] <eetfunk> dooglus: #!/usr/bin/python    as I said, the file is a+x, and it runs fine when i do /etc/refresh_iptables_rules.py
[10:21] <stork> arg
[10:21] <stork> java on firefox anybody?
[10:21] <ikonia> romanosGR: the most common cause I've seen for that is the chipset not being supported
[10:21] <romanosGR> i have installed suse as well on the same system
[10:21] <stork> the wiki didn't work :(
[10:21] <romanosGR> so no 6.10 for me?
[10:21] <dooglus> eetfunk: odd
[10:21] <Sensae> stork: I have it working, but I don't remember exactly what I did
[10:21] <romanosGR> i have intel chipset
[10:21] <ikonia> romanosGR: check linuxcompatible and see if your chipset is supported
[10:21] <dooglus> eetfunk: can you try a 'date >> /tmp/test' entry?
[10:22] <eetfunk> dooglus: yeah, very... i'll try that
[10:22] <Sensae> stork: I don't remember the name of the packets, but I did an apt-get install on the java jre and java-plugin
[10:22] <romanosGR> sounds ridiculous
[10:22] <Sensae> stork: *packages
[10:22] <romanosGR> i've even run osx86 on my laptop and i can't get ubuntu?
[10:22] <VrilutZa> A have nvidia 440 how to install driver to accelerate
[10:22] <VrilutZa> ?
[10:22] <VrilutZa> A have nvidia geforce 440 how to install driver to accelerate
[10:22] <VrilutZa> ?
[10:22] <fabio_> sorry guy...i have a big problem with suspend....my pc don't wake up after suspend....all led turn on...but monitor is black...anyone can help me?
[10:22] <Sensae> Anyone know how the radeon drivers sets resolution? It's ignoring xorg.conf
[10:22] <linxeh> dave__: try this at a terminal -      lspci | grep VGA
[10:22] <ikonia> romanosGR: osx86 is a different distro and has no relevence to ubuntu
[10:23] <linxeh> dave__: or alternatively maybe          grep -A 8 "Section .Device." /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <romanosGR> well al other distro's runned great
[10:23] <linxeh> VrilutZa: sudo apt-get install nvidia-xgl
[10:23] <ikonia> depends on the version of the kernel shipped with the other distros as standard
[10:23] <dimeotane> Any suggestions for how I can get Samba to work better?  i can open up places-->network servers   but it says a half hour to copy a 500k file
[10:23] <karly>  i just installed ubuntu and the display is really messed up. the left half is fine but the middle and right are shifted and copied multiple times. anyone have any idea on a solution to this problem? it would be much appreciated.
[10:23] <eetfunk> dooglus: it worked, so the problem is not with cron.  damn, i just don't get this one!
[10:23] <ikonia> c2d was brought out just as edgy was released
[10:23] <ephemeros> hey
[10:24] <linxeh> Sensae: you need to make sure that the horizontal and vertical refresh rates are high enoguh for the resolution you want
[10:24] <ikonia> dimeotane: sort reverse dns
[10:24] <dooglus> eetfunk: pastebin the script?
[10:24] <dooglus> !paste
[10:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:24] <dimeotane> ikonia: I don't follow... can you elaborate?
[10:24] <ephemeros> *question: is there a way (documented) to install UBUNTU from an iso image without burning?
[10:24] <Sensae> linxeh: It's actually the reverse, it's running at too high a resolution
[10:24] <ikonia> dimeotane: get reverse name resolution working
[10:24] <dooglus> eetfunk: i guess the script relies on some env.var which cron doesn't set
[10:24] <linxeh> Sensae: then you have too high a resolution in the xorg.conf
[10:25] <dooglus> t
[10:25] <dyrne> !install | ephemeros
[10:25] <ubotu> ephemeros: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:25] <LjL> !install > ephemeros    (ephemeros, see the private message from Ubotu) | netinstall i guess, which sounds complicated enough
[10:25] <Sensae> linxeh: It's only set to 1024  by 768 in xorg.conf, but the login screen / max resolution is 1600 x 1200
[10:25] <ephemeros> wow, cool!
[10:25] <dyrne> ephemeros: ive found that link pretty helpful for alternate installs
[10:25] <linxeh> Sensae: are you sure you set every bit depth to 1024x768 and that there are no other higher resolutions there?
[10:25] <eetfunk> dooglus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5996/
[10:25] <Sensae> linxeh: Yes
[10:25] <ephemeros> thanks, dyrne, a friend of mine wants that, but has no cdrom, he lives in another town
[10:26] <linxeh> Sensae: you can cycle resolutions with ctrl+alt with plus and minus on the keypad too
[10:26] <karly> can someone please help me. i would really appreciate it.
[10:26] <karly>  i just installed ubuntu and the display is really messed up. the left half is fine but the middle and right are shifted and copied multiple times. anyone have any idea on a solution to this problem?
[10:26] <dooglus> eetfunk: i meant the /etc/refresh_iptables_rules.py
[10:26] <Sensae> linxeh: If I do that on the login screen will it keep that res?
[10:26] <linxeh> Sensae: maybe try runining the reconfigure script for xorg again
[10:26] <bruenig> !fixres | karly
[10:26] <linxeh> Sensae: it should do yeah
[10:26] <linxeh> Sensae: for this login anyway
[10:26] <ephemeros> LjL: thank you, too
[10:26] <LjL> karly: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:26] <Sensae> linxeh: Tried that, and when I set it to ati for drivers or fglrx for drivers it properly uses my max res
[10:27] <erUSUL> karly: it i9s a weird problem never seen it before... try reconfiguring X with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:27] <Sensae> linxeh: When using the radeon drivers it ignores em
[10:27] <linxeh> I thought the recommended driver for radeons was the fglrx now ?
[10:27] <linxeh> or is radeon better (Ive been trying to get my ATI M300 to work properly for ages, given up now)
[10:27] <Sensae> linxeh: I dunno, but my goal is getting beryl working, and I
[10:27] <darweth> Hey if I am moving my /home to a new partition... how much space do i need to leave on the old partition for installs? (a pretty basic system... nothing too special)
[10:28] <Sensae> linxeh: I've only succeeded with radeon
[10:28] <linxeh> eugh, beryl
[10:28] <linxeh> buggy :(
[10:28] <AMD> can you please help me google has failed ..................im trying to install btsco-0.5 http://pastebin.ca/357689
[10:28] <Sensae> linxeh: It's only a testbed
[10:28] <gverig> Between Linksys and Trendnet WiFi PCI cards, what's the difference, is the first one better, how's Trendnet's linux support, etc?
[10:29] <linxeh> Sensae: what was the radeon package name ?
[10:29] <karly> how do i get to the command line?
[10:29] <linxeh> karly - ctrl alt + f1
[10:29] <karly> thx
[10:29] <dooglus> karly: wait
[10:29] <linxeh> and then ctrl-alt and f7 to get back to X (probably)
[10:29] <HymnToLife> gverig, the maker of the card doesn't matter much
[10:30] <HymnToLife> it's the maker of the chipset that does
[10:30] <dooglus> karly: you'll want to know how to get back , too!
[10:30] <Sensae> linxeh: Pretty sure it was xorg-driver-ati
[10:30] <mrpoundsign> hello
[10:30] <eetfunk> dooglus: I found it!  My script was assuming that the current path was /etc/ when it ran, but it was not.  Thanks a lot for the help!  pointing me back to the python script  make me realize the error was in there.
[10:30] <marcko> what's better ? ext3 or xfs?
[10:30] <eetfunk> dooglus: sorry for all the confusion!
[10:30] <Sensae> marcko: ext3 is tried and true
[10:30] <dooglus> eetfunk: no worries
[10:30] <HymnToLife> marcko, depends what you want to do with it...
[10:30] <mwe> marcko: each for it's own purpose
[10:31] <marcko> whats xfs good for?
[10:31] <gverig> HymnToLife: I don't know who makes chipset for Trendnet. Linksys it's RT61 ... I spent like 4 hours yesterday building drivers *curses*
[10:31] <mwe> marcko: supposedly xfs is good for servers with millions of smale files
[10:31] <dooglus> eetfunk: you see the general approach tho - that 'date' test split the problem in half
[10:31] <mwe> small*
[10:31] <HymnToLife> !wireless | gverig
[10:31] <ubotwo> gverig: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:31] <HymnToLife> there's an extensive list of wireless cards there
[10:31] <HymnToLife> and hw well they are supported
[10:32] <HymnToLife> how*
[10:32] <marcko> thanks all
[10:32] <patrick_> has anyone set up their ubuntu to share a printer with an XP computer (printer connected to the ubutnu edgy) and how diffictult was it to do?
[10:32] <mrpoundsign> I'm trying to get routing working with pppd to a pptp server -- but the routing scripts never seem to run.  If someone here has a lot of knowledge of pppd, I could use some help.  :)
[10:32] <eetfunk> dooglus: yeah!  but i was so sure that the problem lied in my crontab line... i must be tired
[10:32] <karly> oh. well im doing this on a seperate computer
[10:33] <karly> the irc
[10:33] <dooglus> eetfunk: incidentally, /etc isn't really for scripts, but for config files
[10:33] <eetfunk> dooglus: where should i put scripts? i wasnt sure
[10:33] <patrick_> and has any one connected/been able to sync a creative zen v with edgy and how difficult was that?
[10:33] <karly> so it doesnt matter. i dont think i would be able to to do anything on it normally with the screen problem, and i just installed it today
[10:33] <dooglus> eetfunk: it's entirely up to you/  i would use /root/bin/ though
[10:34] <dooglus> eetfunk: (for local scripts run by root, that is)
[10:34] <eetfunk> googlus: ok thanks
[10:34] <HymnToLife> or maybe /usr/local/sbin
[10:34] <abyss> lo i got a little problem: i was able to install my integrated wlan device in my laptop through win-driver and ndisw. all seems to be work except of wpasupplicant
[10:34] <abyss> is that a know problem?
[10:35] <dooglus> HymnToLife: indeed.  that's better, prolly
[10:35] <HymnToLife> abyss, no, wpasupplicant is known to work with ndiswrapper
[10:35] <gverig> HymnToLife: Neither card is in the list. I was able to build drivers for linksys and it works. the question is that Linksys is ~$50, and Trendnet is $5 (on sale). I am wondering is the second one worse, if yes-how much worse and if it's acceptable... I will look for linux support stuff. Primary question is how are the cards, if anyone knows
[10:35] <nevron> doesnt anyone have a SBLIVE! 24 bit soundcard?
[10:35] <abyss> HymnToLife, but in my case i dont think that works
[10:35] <HymnToLife> gverig, google a bit, you should be able to find out which chipset that card has
[10:35] <marcko> Let's suppose I want to create an email server. What does it mean in pratical terms?
[10:36] <dooglus> abyss: I'm using wpa_supplicant with ndiswrapper right now
[10:36] <abyss> HymnToLife, i try kwlan and kwifimanager nothing is able to connect to wpa enrypted wlans
[10:36] <HymnToLife> ask dooglus, I have very little experience with WPA
[10:36] <abyss> HymnToLife, iwconfig finds on scan all networks
[10:37] <abyss> HymnToLife, but i cannot connect to anyone
[10:37] <gverig> HymnToLife: heh, doing it now. Seems like some kind of TI chipset.
[10:37] <abyss> HymnToLife, which program u use for fest wlan switching?
[10:37] <abyss> HymnToLife, *fast
[10:37] <st3> wpasupplicant isn't supported by every chipset with ndiswrapper
[10:37] <HymnToLife> abyss, command line only :)
[10:37] <HymnToLife> but I never use wpa
[10:38] <dooglus> abyss: all I use are these lines in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth2 <ret> iface eth2 inet dhcp <ret> wpa-proto WPA <ret> wpa-ssid doognet <ret> wpa-psk "pa$$word" <ret>
[10:38] <dave__> are there any cool graphical effects i can add to ubuntu, for example that cube turning effect to change the desktop or something?
[10:38] <|thunder> for the love of god, how do I unzip a bunch of zip files in the same dir ? arg. 'unzip -X a-al603?.zip' is just erroring with 'caution: filename not matched:  a-al603l.zip' help
[10:38] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell dave__ about beryl | dave__, see the private message from ubotu.
[10:38] <ikonia> dave__: thats part of beryl
[10:38] <dooglus> abyss: those lines automatically cause wpa_supplicant to be run - no other config is necessary
[10:38] <Xuwqyz> How do you update one specific program with apt-get?
[10:39] <ikonia> apt-get update $program
[10:39] <ikonia> upgrade $program
[10:39] <ikonia> not update
[10:39] <abyss> dooglus, so i have to write those lines in the interface file?
[10:39] <chump> can someone help me get my nvidia driver working please .. the page you sent me earlier did not work for me
[10:39] <ikonia> !nvidia >chump
[10:39] <|thunder> chump; have you tried envy ?
[10:39] <dooglus> abyss: yes - that's what I did anyway.  I'm not using network manager though, 'cos I don't move to different access points
[10:39] <patrick_> has anyone got a creative zen v working with edgy?
[10:39] <erUSUL> chump: what step failed?
[10:40] <abyss> dooglus, the problem is, i jump around many time on a day and there are all different aps
[10:40] <dooglus> abyss: when I do move to a different access point, I edit that file...
[10:40] <wheels3572> What's the command for a permanent Terminal window in the background?
[10:40] <dooglus> abyss: ok...  probably you need to use network-manager then
[10:40] <abyss> dooglus, were talking about 5 time a day at least
[10:40] <abyss> but which one? not one seems to work with wpa encryption
[10:41] <joeljkp> i've been hearing about CNR coming to Ubuntu and how that'll bring in legal codecs and dvd players and stuff.... yet i'm looking at the CNR warehouse, and I can't find a single legal codec or dvd player; what's going on?
[10:41] <abyss> dooglus, in my case
[10:41] <dooglus> ! network-manager-gnome
[10:41] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[10:41] <dooglus> that works with WPA I believe - maybe you need wpa_supplicant installed too
[10:41] <LjL> joeljkp, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:42] <Jowi> joeljkp, check out fluendos site: https://shop.fluendo.com/
[10:42] <joeljkp> jowi: yeah, i'm going to buy those, i wanted to see what cnr will be offering first
[10:42] <Jowi> joeljkp, luckily for me I live across the atlantic :)
[10:43] <hzw> I realise that my sound stopped working after the recent kernel upgrade that came in through the edgy synaptic updates
[10:43] <hzw> Is there anything I can try to solve my problem?
[10:43] <karly> when i type into the command line, no text shows up. but if i hit enter, it appears on a new line, then askes for password
[10:43] <eetfunk> what is the "real" path name for ~/ as "root" ?
[10:43] <ikonia> eetfunk: /root
[10:43] <dooglus> karly: you need to log in first...
[10:43] <eetfunk> ikonia: that was easy :)
[10:44] <abyss> dooglus, i apt-get it but where i can start the manager now form console?
[10:44] <aroman> hello... I'm having some problems with broken package dependencies
[10:44] <aroman> I'm trying to install vim-gtk (sudo apt-get install vim-gtk) but I get that  vim-gtk: Depends: vim-gui-common (= 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6) but it is not going to be installed
[10:44] <dooglus> abyss: it's a mystery to me...  I've never got the hang of network manager.  you might find that restarting GNOME (ie log out and in) will start it.
[10:44] <Cin> can anyone explain this message from glxgears? http://rafb.net/p/MrvM6281.html
[10:44] <aroman> I've also seen that with trying to install vlc
[10:44] <aroman> any ideas what I can do to resolve the issue?
[10:44] <wheels3572> Im also having an issue with Repos.  I used to have 90 something and now only 48 since a fresh install of Xubuntu.  What am I missing?
[10:45] <abyss> dooglus, thanks ill give the x-restart a try brb
[10:45] <Cin> wheels3572, sounds like you're missing sources from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:45] <wheels3572> Cin, hmmmmm ok.  Not sure what I did differently though lol.  Must have added some maybe along the way?  I dont know
[10:45] <Cin> wheels3572, or just don't have the multiverse packages on
[10:46] <Runithard> I love Ubuntu
[10:46] <wheels3572> Cin, you talking the multiverse that is commented out in the sources.list?
[10:46] <Cin> wheels3572, yeah. there are some that just aren't enabled by default. you usually end up enabling them sometime when you want to install something extra
[10:46] <dooglus> abyss: see any new icon in the top right corner?
[10:46] <fabio_> sorry guy...i have a big problem with suspend....my pc don't wake up after suspend....all led turn on...but monitor is black...anyone can help me?
[10:46] <Cin> wheels3572, er, I'm not sure if it's commented out. it might just not be there
[10:46] <wheels3572> Cin, already enabled all of them in the list lol
[10:46] <abyss> dooglus, okay now the manager is there but this manage shows me only cable connection aviable
[10:47] <Cin> wheels3572, what ubuntu are you on?
[10:47] <Cin> wheels3572, Dapper?
[10:47] <nevron> another unresolved issue :D
[10:47] <dooglus> abyss: edit /etc/network/interfaces and - um - I forget...
[10:47] <wheels3572> Cin, forgot what the cli was to find out the name of the Distro lol
[10:48] <wheels3572> the version I mean
[10:48] <abyss>  sudo ndiswrapper -l -> bcmwl5 : driver installed <ret>  device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[10:48] <Runithard> Whats new in 7.X
[10:48] <anut> Hello, all.  Anyone have any idea on setting up an LVM at install from the live disk?
[10:48] <LjL> wheels3572: lsb_release -a
[10:48] <aroman> :( could anyone on 6.10 try to install vim-gtk and let me know if it works on their end?
[10:48] <wheels3572> that's it ty LjL
[10:48] <Cin> wheels3572, heh. I don't know either
[10:48] <Runithard> LVM is tough
[10:48] <Runithard> dont do it on the root
[10:48] <eontasticness> i have a crashed raid6 that says invalid superblock, e2fsck -b 8196 and fsck do not fix it
[10:48] <eontasticness> is there ANYTHING i can do or should i give up on my 1.7tb
[10:49] <wheels3572> Cin, Edgy not Dapper
[10:49] <Runithard> I wrote a FAQ on NDISWRAPPER
[10:49] <Runithard> who needs help?
[10:49] <kane77> in what losless format can I get music into my iPod with banshee??
[10:49] <wheels3572> Runithard, I do for sure running a damn BCM43xx chipset
[10:49] <Lattyware> Hey all, I know this isn't hardware support, but #hardware came up with nothing, so I thought I'd last ditch attempt here.
[10:49] <cables> kane77, WAV? :)
[10:50] <kane77> cables, no, wav doesnt work :(
[10:50] <Lattyware> I've just constructed an Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP system, and I get no ouput. No beeping, no video. Fans, lights, hard drive etc... all come on. But nothing out. Can anyone help.
[10:50] <erUSUL> eontasticness:  e2fsck -b 32768 (for fs with 4k sector size that is the default)
[10:50] <Runithard> Wheels3572: 64bit os?
[10:50] <wheels3572> Runithard, No 32
[10:50] <kane77> cables it doesnt import it...
[10:50] <Runithard> Wheels3572: ok
[10:50] <cables> kane77, even if it did work, that would be pretty sad
[10:50] <Cin> wheels3572: have a read of that -- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:50] <Runithard> Wheels3572: 6.10?
[10:50] <eontasticness> erUSUL: i think i tried that too
[10:50] <wheels3572> Cin, ok ty
[10:50] <wheels3572> Runithard, Yes
[10:50] <Stuttergart> Is anyone here using true regex matching to define hostgroups?
[10:50] <Cin> anyway, if anyone can suggest what this error means, I'd be grateful: http://rafb.net/p/MrvM6281.html
[10:50] <anut> Sure, so set up a five or ten or twenty gig or whatever root partition, but then say I wanted to have /share as an LVM spanning two drives?
[10:50] <Runithard> Wheels3572:  ok you need to rmmod the bcm module
[10:51] <Marsmensch> hi, anyone knows when herd4 is released?
[10:51] <Runithard> Wheels3572:  the new BCM support SUCKS! in the kernel, ndiswrapper won't work if it's loaded
[10:51] <erUSUL> eontasticness: i do not have experience with raid set ups sorry i just was giving a shot in the dark :(
[10:51] <Runithard> Wheels3572:  i had the same problem, i have an acer ferrari
[10:51] <Runithard> Wheels3572:  with that chip
[10:51] <aridese> if i have custom drivers (kernel modules), do i have to recompile them every single time theres a kernel update? (the new 2.6.17.11 or whatever)
[10:51] <eontasticness> erUSUL: no problem, i'll take any ideas i can get
[10:51] <erUSUL> aridese: yes
[10:51] <wheels3572> Runithard, I have an HP with this pos chipset lol
[10:51] <aridese> erUSUL: anyway to automate it? any suggestions?
[10:51] <PiNE> when i make my panel transparent some of the items (the clock and systray) keep the old theme even if i restart x. how do i fix this?
[10:51] <Runithard> Wheels3572:  it works good with NDIS wrapper
[10:51] <aridese> it's annoying
[10:52] <huascar80> ...
[10:52] <crparr> Hi! I'm tryinbg to install ivtv. In a howto it read that one should remove 4 modules from within /lib/modules/...
[10:52] <wheels3572> Runithard, ok
[10:52] <anut> Would it be easier to set the drives up IDE raid, maybe?  If I did, would Ubuntu talk to them at install time?
[10:52] <crparr> But how can I recreate them?
[10:52] <wheels3572> Runithard, im VERY new to this so lol no idea what im doing period lol
[10:52] <Runithard> Wheels3572: no problem
[10:52] <abyss> anyone else know how i can get network-manager-gnome regonize my ndiswrapper wlan card?
[10:52] <dooglus> abyss: Only devices that are *not* listed in /etc/network/interfaces or which have
[10:52] <dooglus> been configured "auto" and "dhcp" (with no other options) are managed by NM.
[10:52] <Runithard> Wheels3572: I'm digging up my old guide
[10:52] <Jowi> Lattyware, that used to be the case when you connected the floppy cable the wrong way... although I bet you don't have a floppy connector in this one :)
[10:52] <wheels3572> Runithard, ok
[10:53] <wheels3572> Hey Runithard do you have any messengers?
[10:53] <Lattyware> Jowi: Do, but not using it.
[10:53] <dave__> anyone know how to fix up dual screens?
[10:53] <Runithard> http://runithard.com/HOWTO-BCOM64WIRELESS/
[10:53] <chump> erUSUL : (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:53] <Runithard> wheels
[10:53] <Lattyware> Jowi: At my wits end, I've been waiting for ages for this PC, and now it fails to work.
[10:53] <Runithard> Wheels3572: that link is for the 64bit driver, but you get the idea
[10:53] <wheels3572> Runithard, ok got the site ty
[10:53] <wheels3572> Runithard, ok ty
[10:53] <Runithard> Wheels3572: do a lsmod
[10:54] <Runithard> Wheels3572: make sure you bcm module isn't their or you'll never get it working
[10:54] <wheels3572> Runithard, ok
[10:54] <aroman> yeah.. problem solved, if anyone's interested... I just used a good mirror for my packages
[10:54] <Jowi> Lattyware, are you using the VGA connector at the back or one from a video card?
[10:54] <Runithard> Wheels3572: You can email me if you still have problems, I'm going out to eat
[10:54] <Lattyware> Video card, it doesn't have onboard video.
[10:54] <Lattyware> (2 dvi actually.
[10:54] <Lattyware> )
[10:55] <erUSUL> chump: and you instaled nvidia-glx? and linux-restricted-modules?
[10:55] <wheels3572> Runithard, ok ty
[10:55] <Chadarius> dave__: What video card are you using?
[10:55] <dave__> chadarius: nvidia gforce4 Ti 4200
[10:55] <richard> YeeeHAawww! :D
[10:56] <patrick_> hey im using this install (for edgy)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250 and i got this error(http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6015/), what should i do/what does it mean?
[10:56] <Jowi> Lattyware, the pic at the bottom of this page is not VGA? http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1179&l1=3&l2=11&l3=307
[10:56] <Lattyware> Serial not VGA
[10:56] <randyf> hello, everyone
[10:56] <Lattyware> VGA would be female too.
[10:57] <Jowi> Lattyware, ah, right. hard to see from that angle
[10:57] <Jowi> Lattyware, what do you mean by 2 DVI. 2 cards or 2 connectors on one card?
[10:58] <Lattyware> 2 on one card.
[10:58] <VrilutZa> what it's this erorr
[10:58] <VrilutZa> BusyBox v1.1.3(Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built in shell (ash)
[10:58] <VrilutZa> Enter 'help' for a list of builtin commands
[10:58] <VrilutZa> bin/sh:can't acces tty: job control turned off
[10:58] <VrilutZa> initramfs) _
[10:58] <Chadarius> dave__: I searched for "nvidia twinview" on http://ubuntuforums.org and got http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301946&highlight=nvidia+twinview
[10:58] <Ash-Fox> vrtical, that's not a error, that's a emergency shell.
[10:59] <sivik> vrtical, you were helping me last night, weren't you
[10:59] <florent_> List
[10:59] <randyf> quit
[10:59] <VrilutZa> nobody help me?
[10:59] <Jowi> Lattyware, have a look in the manual if there are any manual switches to set up.
[10:59] <Ash-Fox> randyf /quit
[10:59] <Chadarius> dave__: another useful tool that I think is installed with the nvidia binary driver is nvidia-settings
[11:00] <Lattyware> Jowi: Have done, nothing I can see.
[11:00] <florent_> List
[11:00] <Chadarius> dave__: You can enable dual screens manually on the fly anytime you want using that tool
[11:00] <dave__> chadarius: thanks, this has been a big help
[11:01] <Jowi> Lattyware, are you using ATA or SATA?
[11:01] <dooglus> /quit && firefox http://myporn.com/
[11:01] <richard> why is it that nvidia-settings always wants to deselect nvidia-glx in synaptic?
[11:01] <Lattyware> Jowi: ATA.
[11:01] <Jowi> Lattyware, more than one disk?
[11:01] <Lattyware> 2 Optical drives, 2 hard drives.
[11:01] <postincremen1> oh man, i think i just logged in a bit lat
[11:02] <postincremen1> trying to get my dual monitors up
[11:02] <Lattyware> I've tried booting without them, to no avail.
[11:02] <postincremen1> just moved from gentoo
[11:02] <postincremen1> chardarius:, is the nvidia binary driver the way to go?
[11:02] <Jowi> Lattyware, reset the CMOS is all I can think of then.
[11:03] <Lattyware> ok
[11:03] <Lattyware> thanks for the help
[11:03] <Jowi> np Lattyware
[11:03] <Advanced> hey guys
[11:03] <Advanced> i have an external drive plugged in for some important drivers
[11:04] <oggy_> SysInfo: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE | Dual  MHz | Mem: / %C14[%C4%C3||||||||||%C14] %C | Diskspace: 35G Free: 26G | Bogomips:  | Screen Res: 1400x1050 | Procs: 9 |   | Uptime: 6:06PM up 260 days, 17:07, 4 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.23, | eth0: In: 0.00M Out: 0.00M | | Vpenis: 54 cm
[11:04] <oggy_> SysInfo:  |   MHz | Bogomips:  | Mem: /1M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 35.88G Free: 26.71G | Procs: 0 | Uptime: 0 sec | Load: | Vpenis: 11.9 cm | Screen: @1400x1050 (16 bpp)
[11:04] <Advanced> now it went all gay on me and i had to go into terminal and pmount it myself
[11:04] <cables> !paste | oggy
[11:04] <ubotu> oggy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:04] <Jowi> Lattyware, you got a 24pin PSU?
[11:04] <Advanced> but now its mounted its only available to root user
[11:04] <oggy_> =)
[11:04] <Advanced> and i dont know how to log in as root
[11:04] <Lattyware> Jowi: Yeah, why?
[11:04] <Advanced> when i try it at the login screen all i get is "admin cant log in from this screen"
[11:04] <dooglus> Advanced: it went gay so you mounted it?
[11:05] <Advanced> lol, it didnt auto mount is what i mean
[11:05] <dooglus> Advanced: I think it's just decided to use protection
[11:05] <abyss> dooglus, thanks for advice wlan works now for multi aps :)
[11:05] <Advanced> but yeah, its restricted to root access only
[11:05] <dooglus> abyss: cool.
[11:05] <postincremen1> help with dual display anyone? fresh install 6.10 amd64 nv driver Xinerama?
[11:05] <Advanced> i really need to access those files
[11:05] <dooglus> abyss: that last thing I told you was copy/pasted from /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian
[11:05] <Jowi> Lattyware, it got an extra 4 or 8 pin aux connector?
[11:06] <Advanced> for one, my network card driver is in there and its geting very tedious rebooting into windows every time i need the net
[11:06] <Advanced> x.x
[11:06] <patrick_> hey im trying to install gnomad2 and i got this error while trying to use the make command... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6018/
[11:06] <abyss> dooglus, but after software upgrade i have another problem
[11:06] <whonicca> whats the best program to use to sync ur ipod with, i keep having problems syncing my ipod with progs under linux, whatever letter the playlist i add starts with, removes everything that comes after it under the playlist menu
[11:06] <dooglus> Advanced: mount it with '-o umask=0' or someting?
[11:06] <Jowi> Lattyware, (have you connected it?)
[11:06] <Lattyware> Jowi: Has an 8 pin and 6 pin, yeah.
[11:06] <whonicca> i sync with itunes most of the time, also whatever i put on in linux doesnt appear on itunes
[11:06] <Advanced> so pmount /dev/sdb1 -o imask=0 ?
[11:06] <Lattyware> I havn't connected it.
[11:06] <Lattyware> There is a blanking plate over 4 of the pins on the mobo.
[11:06] <Advanced> erm, umask even
[11:06] <{Nathan}> A program screwed up my menu.lst, is there a way I can regenerate it using dpkg?
[11:06] <abyss> it get the login window when im login i see only the background image about 3-5 minutes then gnome starts the windowmanager and rest of gnome
[11:06] <dooglus> Advanced: I don't know pmount, but probably...
[11:07] <Erealz> are their any game for linux that are actually  good?
[11:07] <Advanced> i'd rather be 100% sure as i've rebooted about 32894632 times
[11:07] <Jowi> Lattyware, I just found this by chance. 1st paragraph: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/09/13/review_asus_p5b_deluxe/page2.html
[11:07] <Advanced> :S
[11:07] <sivik> is there a way to tell where i made a post on ubuntuforums.org?
[11:07] <abyss> error message: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[11:07] <dooglus> Advanced: I didn't really catch what you're talking about - what's the device you're mounting?
[11:07] <erUSUL> Erealz: doom3 quake 4 and all the precuels? nwn 1?
[11:07] <Advanced> how can i log in as root and have my GUI ?
[11:08] <Lattyware> Jowi: Hmmm... So I should hook up my 8 pin connector?
[11:08] <Advanced> its just a psp, but its registered as a usb drive
[11:08] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Advanced about sudo | Advanced see priv msg from ubotu
[11:08] <Erealz> precuels never herd of that
[11:08] <hopintop1> hi just testing
[11:08] <rambo3> Advanced, start safe mode and run startx
[11:08] <Jowi> Lattyware, seems like it. should be a protective cap covering 4 pins to remove for you
[11:08] <Lattyware> ok
[11:08] <rambo3> or kill this gdm and sudo -i and startx
[11:08] <abyss> dooglus, any idea?
[11:08] <dooglus> Advanced: so I would just:  sudo mount -o umask=0 /dev/sda1 /mount/point
[11:08] <erUSUL> Erealz: i mean quake 1 2 3 4 and doom 1 2 3....
[11:08] <Erealz> oh
[11:08] <Erealz> ok
[11:09] <Erealz> way to old titles for me
[11:09] <Advanced> right guys, ill head off and try those two options :) hope this works! <333
[11:09] <Erealz> tired of them
[11:09] <dooglus> abyss: did you reboot, or just kill GNOME?
[11:09] <Erealz> i have a question tho
[11:09] <Erealz> i have unreal 2004
[11:09] <abyss> i reboot
[11:09] <Erealz> with support linux
[11:09] <patrick_> any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6018/ that error fro trying to install gnomad2?
[11:09] <dooglus> abyss: I've seen that kind of behaviour before when old 'esd' processes are left hanging around
[11:09] <abyss> and after reboot the error happend
[11:09] <Jowi> Lattyware, should be just behind the keyboard/mouse connectors according to the picture. but have a look yourself.
[11:09] <erUSUL> Erealz: so quake 4 is too old but ut 2004 not?
[11:09] <Erealz> has anyone try to install unreal 2004
[11:09] <patrick_> using this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[11:10] <dooglus> abyss: see if turning off sounds in GNOME fixes it
[11:10] <dooglus> abyss: if so, it's probably esd's fault
[11:10] <abyss> well wait a min i want to reboot again to see if it comesup again
[11:10] <jmon> I need help with my new video card, ubuntu wont boot with it
[11:10] <Erealz> have you seen the gfx for quake
[11:10] <Erealz> it garbage
[11:10] <postincremen1> !rules
[11:10] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:11] <postincremen1> hehe
[11:12] <alex-weej> any idea how i can get a kernel log dump when booting in recovery (if it fails to bring me to a shell)
[11:12] <Gon> !xgl
[11:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:12] <[M] Darkorical> I just installed ubuntu for the first time ... in fact its my first attempt at linux of any sort
[11:12] <postincremen1> does nv support Xinerama?
[11:13] <[M] Darkorical> I was introduced to ubuntu via a you tube movie displaying a 3d cube multi desktop thing
[11:13] <jmon> Hi, can someone help me with with my ati radeon 9250 pci (non e) video card) ubuntu wont boot with it! any help is much appriacated
[11:13] <[M] Darkorical> anyone know anything about that desktop?
[11:13] <bard> [M] Darkorical, what grafik card do you have
[11:13] <sivik> [M] Darkorical, could i see it
[11:13] <postincremen1> [M}Darkorical: you mean glx?
[11:13] <bard> !beryl
[11:13] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:13] <Jowi> [M] Darkorical, Beryl
[11:13] <patrick_> any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6018/ that error fro trying to install gnomad2?
[11:13] <LJHarb> when i use "apt-get source blah" where does it get downloaded to?
[11:14] <webby> Help me please!!
[11:14] <jmon> sum 1 do the question bot thing
[11:14] <postincremen1> \
[11:14] <bard> webby, with?
[11:14] <jmon> I forgot what it was
[11:15] <jmon> Hi, can someone help me with with my ati radeon 9250 pci (non e) video card) ubuntu wont boot with it! any help is much appriacated
[11:15] <Jowi> LJHarb, to the current directory i think
[11:15] <[M] Darkorical> it was a you tube vid called dont guy vista get utunbu free
[11:15] <erUSUL> jmon: that card is very well supported i used to have one... can you boot in recovery mode?
[11:15] <mackinac> youtube
[11:15] <jmon> how do I do that
[11:16] <bard> [M] Darkorical, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[11:16] <LJHarb> ill check jowi...
[11:16] <jmon> it wont boot, it brings up a error
[11:16] <patrick_> does any one use gnomad to use their creative zen??
[11:16] <erUSUL> jmon: the grub menu offers the option
[11:16] <jmon> im like a linux noob, if it has no graphic interface I cant do it
[11:17] <Jowi> LJHarb, yeah, just "apt-get source mutt" and it downloaded and unpacked itself to the directory i was standing in.
[11:17] <LJHarb> ok thanks
[11:17] <jmon> I can do terminal, but that is it
[11:18] <rendo> Is it normal for my memory to keep going up and not flush?
[11:18] <postincremen1> wondering why Xinerama is not working, my xorg.conf has been modified, but it seems as though i did nothing
[11:18] <postincremen1> except my second screen looks like a bad trip
[11:19] <jmon> thanks I will try to find it , but I do now know that it will work
[11:19] <Se2> ubuntu rulezz
[11:19] <mackinac> its far out
[11:19] <LeFrenchy> hellooooo
[11:19] <postincremen1> anyone?
[11:20] <sivik> LeFrenchy, hi
[11:20] <mackinac> !xinerama
[11:20] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:20] <patrick_> anyone?
[11:20] <ricmik> are there any software that I can use to control CPU-speed on a Centrino processor?
[11:20] <patrick_> pleasee
[11:20] <LeFrenchy> hi sivik
[11:20] <Se2> !wine
[11:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:20] <postincremen1> thx, think i read that one, but back to the
[11:20] <postincremen1> !DualHead
[11:20] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:20] <LeFrenchy> little question: how to set vls as the default video player?
[11:20] <bard> !santa
[11:21] <sivik> LeFrenchy, do you have a question?
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about santa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <LeFrenchy> i mean vlc
[11:21] <sivik> LeFrenchy, uninstall totem
[11:21] <abyss> dooglus, i go mad here
[11:21] <LeFrenchy> thats all?
[11:21] <hopintop1> .
[11:21] <abyss> dooglus, the gnome problem is gone after autoupdate
[11:21] <hopintop1> hi how can edit a config file that uses sudo command
[11:21] <hopintop1> .
[11:21] <Jowi> Lattyware, does it boot?
[11:21] <abyss> dooglus, but now my wlan device not there anymore or find no networks
[11:21] <Se2> LeFrenchy totem is better then vlc?
[11:22] <Se2> vlc is better totem?
[11:22] <Se2> =] 
[11:22] <sivik> Se2, vlc is better than totem
[11:22] <postincremen1> thx, i guess im off to swap nv for nvidia
[11:22] <mackinac> LeFrenchy :  right click a media file - open with tab - set vlc as default
[11:22] <sivik> Se2, totem you have to install a bunch of other crap to get it to work
[11:22] <LeFrenchy> Se2 i always used vlc without any pb, i don't know about totem
[11:22] <xcript> hello all
[11:23] <patrick_> sivik do you know why i'd get this error when installing gnomad2? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6018/
[11:23] <Lattyware> Jowi: Negative, Still fails.
[11:23] <sivik> patrick_, i will check
[11:23] <dooglus> abyss: strange.  does 'iwconfig' list the interface still?
[11:23] <sivik> patrick_, did you know there is a gnomad2 in the repos that works, what are you trying to connect with it
[11:23] <hopintop1> hi new to chat
[11:23] <abyss> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311"
[11:23] <abyss>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[11:24] <Jowi> Lattyware, asus support is next in line I guess
[11:24] <xcript> hello can some one plz help me
[11:24] <Lattyware> Jowi: Yeah :(
[11:24] <thekidrio> anyone here use an hvr card?
[11:24] <xcript> I just bought a new HP 500 laptop
[11:24] <bard> xcript, dont ask to ask/help just ask
[11:24] <Jowi> Lattyware, tried without any disks after you connected the aux power?
[11:24] <thekidrio> i think my card is a pvr 150 and an atsc reciever
[11:24] <patrick_> im trying this because i have a creative zen v that i want to connect, and the guide online says to do it this way.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[11:24] <patrick_> for edgy
[11:24] <xcript> and installed ubuntu on it
[11:24] <hopintop1> i hav a question
[11:24] <mackinac> LeFrenchy :  sorry: right click a media file - preferences - open with tab - set vlc as default
[11:24] <Lattyware> Jowi: Yeah
[11:25] <nevron> is there anyone that uses a logitech mx500
[11:25] <thekidrio> hopintop1: ask away
[11:25] <abyss> dooglus, iwlist : eth1      No scan results
[11:25] <dooglus> abyss: I don't know what to tell you.  I stopped using network manager because I didn't know how to get it to work reliably.
[11:25] <xcript> every thing worked but..... my touchpda
[11:25] <sivik> patrick_, have you tried installing from the repos
[11:25] <thekidrio> nevron: trying to get the buttons working?
[11:25] <patrick_> i also get this at the end when i do ./configure for gnomad...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6023/
[11:25] <dooglus> abyss: ndiswrapper -l?
[11:25] <nevron> yes
[11:25] <abyss> dooglus, but even iwlist dont find one anymore
[11:25] <sivik> patrick_, let me look, i installed from the repo it works with my zen micro
[11:25] <sivik> patrick_, give me a few seconds to look at some things
[11:25] <patrick_> ahh i'll try that maybe
[11:25] <Jowi> Lattyware, got another video card to try with?
[11:25] <patrick_> thanks sivik!
[11:25] <abyss> dooglus: bcmwl5 : driver installed
[11:25] <abyss>         device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[11:25] <xcript> hi patrick
[11:25] <hopintop1> how do i configure a file uses sudo command,thanks
[11:26] <dooglus> abyss: 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[11:26] <nevron> thekidrio: any suggestions?
[11:26] <patrick_> hi xcript
[11:26] <sivik> abyss: what card?   i have 4318 working without ndiswrapper
[11:26] <Lattyware> Jowi: No.
[11:26] <] Baran[> Hey guys, I have a serious problem involving partitions, I would be happy if I could have some assistance in PM :) thanks.
[11:26] <xcript> I need some guid
[11:26] <bard> sivik, what kernel???
[11:26] <xcript> I need some guide
[11:26] <abyss> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[11:26] <sivik> bard: 2.6.17-10 the one that comes with edgy
[11:26] <dooglus> abyss: uh?
[11:26] <bard> sivik, okay
[11:27] <abyss> sivik, the card works perfectly till i made the autp upgrade in x
[11:27] <xcript> I bought an HP 500 notebook
[11:27] <xcript> I installed ubuntu 6.10 on on it
[11:27] <] Baran[> Hey guys, I have a serious problem involving partitions, I would be happy if I could have some assistance in PM :) thanks. :$
[11:27] <sunyata> What is the best practice in Ubuntu for installing software not included. For example. I am running edgy, but need Apache 2.2.*. Is it a best practice to build from source, or should I backport feisty packages to edgy?
[11:27] <abyss> the upgrade contain linux-header and linux-restircted-modules or so
[11:27] <Jowi> Lattyware, since you have no beeps it should be connected ok and RAM ok as well.
[11:27] <sivik> patrick_, do you have aim or something?
[11:27] <xcript> u there pat
[11:27] <dabear> hi
[11:27] <dabear> ehm, do anyone know how i Can open links from chat to konqueror in a new tab, and not a new window?
[11:28] <patrick_> i do, my aim is stfupatrick
[11:28] <thekidrio> sunyata: almost always better to build from source if you are comfortable with that
[11:28] <Jowi> Lattyware, does that video card got a LED on it to show if it gets power?
[11:28] <bruenig> dabear, #kubuntu
[11:28] <Lattyware> Jowi: Yeah, except for the fact the board appears to have no system buzzer.
[11:28] <georgy> sunyata: install the server version
[11:28] <dooglus> abyss: you need to install the ndiswrapper kernel module again
[11:28] <thekidrio> backports are easier, but not the most recent eh
[11:28] <Lattyware> Jowi: No... No fan either, passive.
[11:28] <abyss> dooglus, which module exactly?
[11:28] <patrick_> xcript, i dont know i'm new to ubuntu too
[11:28] <dooglus> abyss: ndiswrapper
[11:28] <sunyata> thekidrio: yeah I can build from src no problem
[11:28] <Chadarius> ] Baran[: What kind of problem?
[11:28] <sivik> patrick_, are you on?
[11:28] <xcript> ok thanks
[11:28] <thekidrio> sunyata: i would do that if you want the latest and greatest eh
[11:28] <xcript> can any one help
[11:29] <] Baran[> Chadarius: do you have pms enabled?
[11:29] <sunyata> georgy: what do you mean server version?
[11:29] <thekidrio> lamp version
[11:29] <thekidrio> err sorry, its the server version with no gui
[11:29] <sivik> patrick_, send a message to Sivik30
[11:29] <dooglus> abyss: package name 'ndiswrapper-modules-$(uname-r)' I guess
[11:29] <abyss> dooglus: E: Konnte Paket ndiswrapper nicht finden
[11:29] <sunyata> thekidrio: heh, latest and greatest, actually just need mod_proxy balance, which comes in 2.2.. thanks man
[11:29] <Chadarius> ] Baran[: pms?
[11:29] <abyss> dooglus, okay :)
[11:29] <bruenig> xcript, ask a question
[11:29] <thekidrio> sunyata: yeah then src for sure
[11:29] <] Baran[> Chadarius: Private messages
[11:29] <hopintop1> can someone tell me what forum will help beginner of linux
[11:29] <sivik> hopintop1, ubuntuforums.org
[11:29] <bruenig> hopintop1, ubuntuforums.org
[11:30] <Chadarius> ] Baran[: Yeah
[11:30] <Yeti_69> !fr
[11:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:30] <xcript> my touchpad doesnt work
[11:30] <sunyata> thekidrio: thanks again
[11:30] <hopintop1> i mean like live chat
[11:30] <mr_hus> Hi. Just wondering... I just installed samba and I quickly had a look at the smb.conf. I changed it so that users can access their home directory though samba. I don't understand why but it only works with the account I created during the ubuntu installation... it doesn't work for the other accounts? Any ideas?
[11:30] <Norf-ubu> anyone noticed that updates from security.ubuntu.com are slow ????
[11:30] <xcript> can I fix it, I mean on ubuntu
[11:30] <abyss> dooglus, E: Konnte Paket ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.17-11-generic nicht finden
[11:30] <sivik> patrick_, lets chat in pm
[11:30] <thekidrio> xcript:  yeah you can umm its in the laptop section
[11:30] <dooglus> abyss: yeah, I don't know why that is.  it seems that when a new kernel is released, the corresponding ndiswrapper kernel module isn't.
[11:31] <thekidrio> !laptop | xcript
[11:31] <ubotu> xcript: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[11:31] <dooglus> !ndiswrapper
[11:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:31] <y0hm> mr_hus : when  your samba security is set to user ,this is normal behaviour !
[11:31] <Indref> I was wondering, what is the terminal command for the file manager.
[11:31] <dooglus> Indref: nautilus
[11:31] <fabio_> sorry guy...i have a big problem with suspend....my pc don't wake up after suspend....all led turn on...but monitor is black...anyone can help me?
[11:31] <sivik> how do i tell what version of a software i have installed
[11:31] <thekidrio> Indref: in gnome?
[11:31] <Indref> thekidrio, In openbo
[11:31] <Indref> openbox
[11:31] <bruenig> sivik, apt-cache show package | grep Version
[11:31] <Norf-ubu> anyone noticed that updates from security.ubuntu.com are slow ???? or is it just me ?
[11:31] <lightseed> where do i find chroot information for having the 32 bit ubuntu within the 64bit
[11:31] <Indref> Stupid x key
[11:31] <nexeus> hello can some1 help me to install linksys-wpc54g wlan0 working plz
[11:31] <Jowi> Lattyware, remove all cables, remove video card. remove all external devices. insert video card and one primary monitor. connect power. boot. maybe the video card is not correctly seated.... (ok, a long shot but that's what I would do myself)
[11:31] <mr_hus> y0hm: but why is it just working for one account? I thought every user could then access their own home...
[11:31] <thekidrio> Indref: oh hrmm not sure haha
[11:32] <y0hm> mr_hus : because it inherits the linux permissions
[11:32] <bruenig> !repeat | Norf-ubu
[11:32] <ubotu> Norf-ubu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:32] <rambo3> Indref, install some alternative file manager then
[11:32] <nexeus> hello can some1 help me to install linksys-wpc54g wlan0 working using edgyu here  plz
[11:32] <bruenig> !chroot
[11:32] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:32] <xcript> thankx bros..... what would I do without u ..... you are angels
[11:32] <y0hm> mr_hus : u can add additional users to your linux system
[11:32] <Jowi> Lattyware, need some sleep. good luck
[11:32] <rambo3> !info rox
[11:32] <ubotu> Package rox does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[11:32] <nexeus> hello can some1 help me to install linksys-wpc54g wlan0 working using edgyu here  plz
[11:32] <Indref> rambo3, Any suggestions?
[11:33] <hopintop1> ok got thanks , sivik, brunig
[11:33] <bruenig> !repeat | nexeus
[11:33] <ubotu> nexeus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:33] <y0hm> check out the excellent samba-how_to www.samba.org
[11:33] <bruenig> !wifi | nexeus
[11:33] <ubotu> nexeus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:33] <nexeus> thanx
[11:33] <rambo3> !info rox-filer
[11:33] <ubotu> rox-filer: A simple graphical file manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5-1build1 (edgy), package size 1436 kB, installed size 3992 kB
[11:33] <Indref> !filemanager
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filemanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <bruenig> !info thunar
[11:33] <ubotu> thunar: File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0svn+r23151-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 384 kB, installed size 2956 kB
[11:33] <Seveas> !rox-filer
[11:33] <glok> how easy and risky is it to add a new drive to a box and move the home directory to it?
[11:34] <thekidrio> ROX-Filer... yeah heh
[11:34] <glok> (for an amateur)
[11:34] <thekidrio> thats the open box standard it hink
[11:34] <bruenig> glok, with uuid it is a bit harder
[11:35] <glok> ok ty - that's what i was looking for (ie i can probably find the steps; i just don't want to destroy my system)
[11:35] <thekidrio> hrmm you could un mount /home and change its mount point to something else then copy of the something else to the new /home mount point
[11:35] <glok> that's what i was think, not sure whether that mv process messes up the box when i do the mounting
[11:36] <thekidrio> i.e.  shouldnt just back up first haha
[11:36] <sivik> how do i get aptitude to show what version is going to be installed
[11:36] <Indref> I'm wiping this machine to sell, how would I go about saving the system setup so I can make it the same on my next computer?
[11:36] <glok> you have an opinion on the most reliable tape backup program?
[11:36] <bruenig> sivik, aptitude show | grep Version
[11:36] <bruenig> sivik, it will be the higher if there are more than one
[11:36] <sivik> ok
[11:36] <bruenig> aptitude show package*
[11:37] <yell0w> Indref, back up your /etc and /home, that's what i'd suggest
[11:37] <oldcat1120> 
[11:37] <bruenig> !backup
[11:37] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:37] <Indref> yell0w, I'll be making my next machine a dual boot, would that change anything?
[11:37] <glok> cool ty all for the help i'll check those
[11:38] <Indref> bruenig, Wow, that is a lot of info! :D
[11:38] <yell0w> Indref, nope, except for grub
[11:39] <vcef> hi
[11:39] <jla> Hi, I'm trying to find the code change referenced in 'linux-source-2.6.17 (2.6.17.1-10.34) edgy-security; urgency=low' changelog entry 'ide/pci/generic: Add all_generic_ide module option. ...' I expected to find it in linux-source-2.6.17_2.6.17.1-11.35.diff.gz. Where is the right place to find that change?
[11:39] <Norf-ubu> hi, i now have two ubuntu boxes connected via ethernet. one of which has a wireless card in, that connects to an Access Point to the net. How do I set up "internet connection sharing" on the one with the wireless card so that the other hardwired pc can connect to the net too ?
[11:39] <Link> hello
[11:39] <Link> speak spanish
[11:40] <bruenig> !es
[11:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:40] <Indref> yell0w, What is grub.
[11:40] <yell0w> Indref, grub is your boot manager
[11:40] <yell0w> !grub
[11:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:40] <Indref> I see.
[11:40] <Indref> I think.
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> Norf-ubu: Probably the easiest way is to use firestarter, which iirc, has a little button for that.  Otherwise, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetConnectionSharing or some such.
[11:41] <Indref> I'm starting to wonder if starting over would be easier.
[11:41] <vcef> I want to change default application which firefox offers me when I click on a link to pdf file and it asks wheter I want to save or open. How do I do that?
[11:41] <mr_hus> y0hm: I did read the guide... I just don't see why its not every user that can login with THEIR credentials to THEIR home directory
[11:41] <unop> mr_hus,  that is exactly what happens on a normal install
[11:42] <fips> hi
[11:42] <yell0w> Indref, that's the reason why I keep a folder of whatever i did/changed to the system, configs and all
[11:42] <yell0w> :)
[11:42] <Chadarius> Indref: If you didn't do lots of configuration in your /etc files then just backup your /home directory to use for the new install
[11:42] <jla> Norf-ubu: I don't know if there is an easy option for this, hopefully so. The technical option is to enable ip forwarding and make sure the two boxes are on a different subnet than the wireless cards, and you'll need to set a default route. You could get fancy and set up a dhcp server on the box w/ the wireless card to autoconfig any machines on the wired network.
[11:42] <bruenig> vcef, edit>preferences and look around, I would bet it would be in the content tab
[11:42] <Indref> Chadarius, I've already backed up my files.
[11:42] <Indref> Chadarius, I'd just like my system to be sorta copied over, saved on a CD./
[11:42] <Norf-ubu> ty tonyyarusso and jla - not as easy as a wizard then :/
[11:42] <CyberCod> hi everyone, I am having trouble doublsizing xmms in xubuntu edgy... Ive narrowed it down to the composite, but I dont know how to disable it, as it is not turned on in xorg.conf
[11:42] <rambo3> jla did you check ubuntu wiki
[11:42] <mr_hus> unop: i dunno right now i only have one account who can access his home... all the other accounts they refuse the credentials somehow
[11:43] <yell0w> Chadarius, if the new computer has similar hardware, then make and image and copy it over
[11:43] <yell0w> an*
[11:43] <LJHarb> ok i have the mysql-server source, and the sphinx search engine files, but i have no idea how to compile mysql with sphinx - can anyone help
[11:43] <unop> mr_hus,  meaning they cant login?
[11:43] <jla> rambo3: I'm trying, I guess I don't know the right keyword or where to look.
[11:43] <Chadarius> Indref: Exactly yell0w. If the hardware is similar (especially the graphics card) then you can totally do that
[11:43] <fips> is there a way to install openssh-server >=4.3 on dapper without compiling?
[11:43] <rambo3> jla that wasreply  to somone else . sry
[11:43] <Indref> Chadarius, This is a laptop and I'm going to a desktop.
[11:44] <jla> rambo3: oh, bummer. I'd love to find that patch. :)
[11:44] <rambo3> Norf-ubu,  did you check ubuntu wiki
[11:44] <vcef> bruenig: all I've found there are settings for __automatically__ opened files. however I don't want to open them automatically, I just want another default application for it.
[11:44] <bruenig> vcef, filetypes
[11:44] <unop> fips,  what does apt-cache policy openssh-server list?? any versions you want?
[11:44] <Norf-ubu> rambo3:  i'm on there now
[11:44] <nevron> i have followed 2 guides from ubuntu forums org and still couldnt get my mouse buttons working can anyone help me with this logitech mx500 i have
[11:44] <Indref> I can't wait until I know enough to help in here.
[11:45] <elias_> Does anyone know how to set the settings in beryl back to default?
[11:45] <Chadarius> Indref: If its both nvidia cards on those systems that it probably won't be too bad
[11:45] <vcef> bruenig: dtto
[11:45] <Indref> Chadarius, I think I'll just start over.
[11:45] <bruenig> vcef, just rm -rf the .mozilla directory that should do it
[11:45] <unop> fips,  i believe you can also do this with aptitude -- sudo aptitude install openssh-server>=4.3 (or more specifically sudo aptitude install openssh-server=4.3)
[11:45] <Indref> Chadarius, All my music pics etc are saved, so that will do.
[11:46] <mr_hus> unop: they can login... but only the account i created during the installation can access his home through samba. All the other accounts I tried, and I can't access the home through samba (with their credentials)
[11:46] <vcef> bruening: asshole
[11:46] <Advanced> hey again guys :S
[11:46] <Indref> vcef, Hey, be nice.
[11:46] <rambo3> vcef, what
[11:46] <Advanced> y'know for a first time user of ubuntu i sure as hell have come accross probably everything that can go wrong
[11:46] <Advanced> :S
[11:47] <Indref> Advanced, It gets better.
[11:47] <jarhead756> i have a .sh file i use to backup lots of files, but after reinstalling ubuntu, i don't "have permision"
[11:47] <jarhead756> any ideas why?
[11:47] <jarhead756> do i need to chmod it? if so, what would i use?
[11:47] <unop> mr_hus,  now wait, samba is another different story -- the samba user passwd database needs to be updated before new users can logon
[11:47] <yell0w> jarhead756, chmod +x  file.sh
[11:47] <Advanced> it would be amazing if i could install my network adapter and actually work on getting it 100% from ubuntu itself instead of coming back to windows every time i get stumped
[11:47] <Advanced> :s
[11:47] <nevron> i need help setting up my mouse buttons
[11:47] <vcef> Indref, rambo3: hey - I'm frustrated and I'm looking for help and this whacko tells me to destroy all my settings, extension, bookmarks ...
[11:47] <mamzers555> elias_; delete in .beryl the settings.profile
[11:48] <Advanced> right, next problem :S (you guys are saints by the way... i would be miles away if it werent for the help you give)
[11:48] <Indref> vcef, No need to get nasty. No one is getting paid here, have a little respect.
[11:48] <unop> jarhead756,  chmod +x file
[11:48] <vcef> Indref: ok, sorry
[11:48] <fips> unop: Unable to find a version "4.3" for the package "openssh-server"
[11:48] <bruenig> vcef, this is a problem that is simply a click around until you find it specific application thing, shouldn't be too hard
[11:48] <Advanced> i need to compile some form of "makefile" for my driver, i know ill probably still be stuck once i've done that but hey, one step at a time
[11:48] <Indref> vcef, It's ok. Computers make me wanna kill sometimes too.
[11:48] <Advanced> as far as i can see ubuntu doesnt have any tools for compiling this file
[11:48] <fips> unop: i need it for the openssh VPN feature
[11:48] <Advanced> can anyone enlighten me?
[11:49] <yell0w> Advanced, apt-get install build-essential
[11:49] <vcef> bruening: doesn't thinks so. So far it seems to be buried somewhere in the deeps of gnome settings
[11:49] <unop> fips,  VPN feature? what do you mean?
[11:49] <Advanced> sorry what? :S
[11:49] <bruenig> it should be in filetypes, I am able to do what you are saying in the filetypes
[11:49] <Advanced> you want me to type that in terminal yell0w?
[11:49] <yell0w> Advanced,  get build-essential package to enable you to compile and build programs
[11:49] <Advanced> does it try to connect to a webserver for a download?
[11:49] <rambo3> vcef, Firefox>Edit>Pref>Content>File Type
[11:49] <mello__yello> Can anybody give me a hand with my router connection?  It is quite laggy to respond - it is a ZIO router(rather inexpensive) and I heard ubuntu sometimes has issues with these but they can be fixed
[11:49] <bruenig> vcef, you are talking about clicking a pdf in firefox and controlling what firefox does with that right?
[11:50] <fips> unop: OpenSSH>=4.3 supports tunneling with tun/tap devices...
[11:50] <yell0w> Advanced, yes, ubuntu's repositories
[11:50] <Advanced> as unfortunatley, the driver im trying to compile is my network cards driver, thus, no net connection
[11:50] <fips> unop: ...therefore i need a newer version
[11:50] <unop> fips,  are you on edgy? because 4.3 is the current version i believe
[11:50] <fips> no on daper
[11:50] <unop> !info openssh-server | fips
[11:50] <fips> s/daper/dapper/
[11:50] <ubotu> fips: openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[11:50] <unop> !info openssh-server dapper | fips
[11:50] <ubotu> fips: openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 540 kB
[11:51] <elias_> mamzers555, there are 3 files in the .beryl directory; libberysettings.ini and settings. Is it the settings file Im going to delete?
[11:51] <Advanced> yell0w, can i download this file on windows, put it on external storage then boot into linux and install it from there?
[11:51] <elias_> 2files *
[11:51] <fips> ubotu: ?
[11:51] <bruenig> advanced yeah
[11:51] <bruenig> !ubotu | fips
[11:51] <ubotu> fips: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:51] <abyss> dooglus, okay fixed
[11:51] <yell0w> Advanced, by this file you mean a .deb package ?
[11:51] <vcef> bruenig: hard to say actually. the way firefox handles them is fine. All that bothers me is the default application which it offers
[11:51] <dooglus> abyss: how?
[11:51] <vcef> rambo3: looked there before I went on IRC. not helping
[11:51] <abyss> dooglus, seems that i have to compile every kernelupdate the nidsw again
[11:51] <unop> fips,  hmm, you could probably install edgy's version and get away with it .. but it's not advisable to try
[11:51] <mamzers555> elias_; yes
[11:51] <Advanced> ..its just called "makefile"
[11:51] <Flannel> elias_: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[11:51] <bruenig> vcef, say exactly what you are trying to do this vague stuff obviously is very unhelpful
[11:51] <dooglus> abyss: that's crazy isn't it?
[11:51] <Advanced> when i open it with a text editer there's loads of code
[11:52] <vcef> I'll try to explain it once more
[11:52] <Advanced> looks like c++ but im no coder
[11:52] <abyss> dooglus, sure but i write a shell script for doin that ^^
[11:52] <dooglus> abyss: ubuntu is a binary distribution - why's there no binary package available?
[11:52] <fips> unop: how could i do this?
[11:52] <yell0w> Advanced, show me the link where you download the network driver ?
[11:52] <vcef> when I click on pdf. firefox gives me a dialog where I can choose wheter to save or to open the file
[11:52] <vcef> right?
[11:52] <unop> fips,  manually
[11:52] <abyss> dooglus, dont know
[11:52] <Advanced> bare with me :)
[11:52] <bruenig> I will take your word for that
[11:52] <dooglus> abyss: is it because you're using a non-standard version of ndis?
[11:52] <unop> fips, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <dooglus> abyss: like 1.8 instead of 1.1 or something?
[11:52] <Stapol> join #hardware
[11:52] <vcef> and next to the open option is dropdown box where can I select application which will be used for opening that file
[11:53] <abyss> dooglus, nope
[11:53] <vcef> and I want to change that application there
[11:53] <bruenig> it gives you an option to change it
[11:53] <abyss> dooglus, it doesnt matter now, i know how ti fix at anytime thanks ti your for all and now i will try to get in on XGL + Beryl + fglrx ^^
[11:53] <bruenig> vcef, you see the drop down arrow
[11:53] <vcef> yep
[11:54] <unop> vcef,  are you sure you havent installed that PDF downloader extension in firefox? it does something like that
[11:54] <bruenig> vcef, what are you trying to change it to
[11:54] <mparrish> I have a high-resolution screen and I want to scale all the fonts up so they are not so tiny.  How do I do that in ubuntu edgy?
[11:54] <vcef> I know. I can click on others and locate it on the disk
[11:54] <Advanced> yell0w
[11:54] <abyss> dooglus, how i use the inchannel bot?
[11:54] <dooglus> abyss: seen http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu ?
[11:54] <Advanced> http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:UV9lgaRKEbUJ:www.viaarena.com/default.aspx%3FPageID%3D420%26OSID%3D1%26CatID%3D1190%26SubCatID%3D125+vt6102+linux+driver&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
[11:54] <Tatster> Hi all.  I've got a Ubuntu machine running 6.10 and a Canon printer attached to it using the turboprint driver.  How can I print to that from my mac laptop ?
[11:54] <dooglus> !beryl
[11:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:54] <dooglus> abyss: like that.
[11:54] <MrSiebel> Can anyone help me with this... $ cd RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0/Module/
[11:54] <abyss> !s2ram
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s2ram - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <vcef> unop: I have no such extension
[11:55] <fips> unop: thank you
[11:55] <fips> mom
[11:55] <bruenig> vcef, what are you trying to change it to
[11:55] <abyss> !suspend2ram
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend2ram - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <bruenig> !fishing | abyss
[11:55] <ubotu> abyss: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:55] <abyss> hmm
[11:55] <vcef> bruenig: now it says "Use default document viewer"
[11:55] <unop> vcef,  you using adobe's acrobat reader right?
[11:55] <bruenig> vcef, what are you trying to change it to
[11:55] <vcef> and I want that default document viewer to be kpdf
[11:55] <vcef> instead of evince
[11:55] <bruenig> vcef, ok, put kpdf then
[11:55] <vcef> nope, no acrobat here
[11:55] <abyss> bruenig,  sorry not confirm with that ^^
[11:55] <Advanced> yell0w, ya still with me pal? :S
[11:56] <yell0w> Advanced, are you on dapper ?
[11:56] <nevron> can anybody help me setup my logitech mouse
[11:56] <Advanced> ...im not sure what dapper is :(
[11:56] <bruenig> vcef, navigate to /usr/bin/kpdf
[11:56] <LJHarb> ok i have the mysql-server source, and the sphinx search engine files, but i have no idea how to compile mysql with sphinx - can anyone help?
[11:56] <vcef> bruenig: you mean, click on that dropdown arrow and locate kdpf on the disk?
[11:56] <vcef> righ, good
[11:56] <yell0w> Advanced, ok, go to command line, put in uname -a and tell me what you've got
[11:56] <vcef> but when I restart firefox it disappears and I have to do it again
[11:56] <MrSiebel> $ cd RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0/Module/ Can anyone help me with this?
[11:56] <Advanced> i would have to reboot into ubuntu
[11:57] <Advanced> then boot back into windows to get online lol
[11:57] <bruenig> vcef, check the do this automatically?
[11:57] <Advanced> im in a right shambles
[11:57] <Advanced> :S
[11:57] <yell0w> Advanced, dapper is ubuntu 6.4 i think
[11:57] <rambo3> Mr rhat rt61 wirless driver
[11:57] <rambo3> MrSiebel, that rt61 wirless driver
[11:57] <yell0w> 6.04*
[11:57] <vcef> bruenig: I don't understand
[11:57] <MrSiebel> I know I need help configureing it
[11:57] <Advanced> i installed the version that is in the prototype section
[11:57] <bruenig> vcef, there is a do this automatically box in that dialog, check that
[11:57] <MrSiebel> I'm having some trouble
[11:57] <Advanced> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
[11:57] <rambo3> MrSiebel, there is full thread on that on ubuntuforums
[11:58] <xcript> can anyone help with my touchpad
[11:58] <MrSiebel> I know I got it
[11:58] <MrSiebel> I'm stuck
[11:58] <MrSiebel> For some reason
[11:58] <MrSiebel> Not to sure
[11:58] <rambo3> MrSiebel, explain
[11:58] <rambo3> !enter
[11:58] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:58] <xcript> on edgy is not working at all
[11:58] <bruenig> !synaptics | xcript
[11:58] <ubotu> xcript: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:58] <MrSiebel> I'll show you the form and how far I got https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?action=show&redirect=Rt61WirelessCardsHowTo
[11:58] <xcript> I have installed synaptics
[11:58] <vcef> bruenig: Oh. But that would mean that everytime I click on a link to pdf file it opens in kpdf. And I don't want that.
[11:58] <xcript> but still
[11:59] <MrSiebel> I'm trying to compile the driver
[11:59] <yell0w> Advanced, ok, so it'd edgy, meaning you're running kernel 2.6.....
[11:59] <bruenig> vcef, if it bugged you this much (not sure how many pdfs one runs across) just symlink evince to kpdf
[11:59] <vcef> :-)
[11:59] <bruenig> or apt-get remove evince for that much
[11:59] <Advanced> that doesnt sound good
[11:59] <yell0w> Advanced, from the network card driver website, For Windows 9X/2K/ME/NT/XP/Unixware/FreeBSD/Linux/Lan Server DOS/LANTASTIC. This driver supports linux kernel versions 2.2.x and 2.4.x (2.4.1-2.4.6).
[11:59] <Advanced> i dont think that driver supports it :(
[11:59] <yell0w> Advanced, yes
[12:00] <Advanced> does it?
[12:00] <xcript> ubotu I have seen this page and is notworking
[12:00] <yell0w> Advanced, yes, exactly
[12:00] <vcef> my brother sticks to gnome, so that is also not an option
[12:00] <bruenig> !thanks | xcript
[12:00] <ubotu> xcript: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:00] <xcript> ok
[12:00] <Advanced> damnit, theres not a driver on earth to support my network card in ubuntu!
[12:00] <Advanced> >.<
[12:00] <xcript> thanx
[12:00] <yell0w> Advanced, what kind of network card is that ?
[12:00] <Richardson183> yeah\
[12:00] <LJHarb> does nobody here know how to compile things?
[12:00] <Advanced> a VT6102, Rhine II