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milkiii just checked the iso and not the md5-file12:29
graziemilkii: you've matched the md5sums ok? (You can use the file too)12:30
milkiithe md5 check is correct12:30
milkiior md5sum12:30
Jester45humm12:30
graziemilkii: then run the cd check on the boot menu12:31
Jester45it frezes12:31
Jester45oo12:31
milkiiit hangs up the same way it does, when i start install12:31
Jester45mem check12:31
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milkiii think its same result but ill give it a try12:32
milkiibb 2 minutes. and thanks a lot :)12:32
Jester45i just hit the 2tb transfer amount on my fileserver12:32
Jester45im a bnandwidth junkie12:34
Jester45hehe12:34
Jester45why stream mp3's when flac sounds better12:34
Jester45and same with movies12:34
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Jester45why use avi? when dvd isos look better12:34
Jester45hey cellofellow12:35
cellofellowHey12:35
grazieJester45: what are you streaming and to who?12:35
Jester45gonnn work on my site now?12:35
Jester45grazie: my stuff and to me12:35
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grazieJester45: in a loop? lol12:36
cellofellowI accidently typed ctrl+alt+l and the whole system went screwy. It locked up and the little lights on the keyboard (num lock, caps lock, scroll lock) began to blink. I restarted X using SSH but it did no good. What happened? How to I undo it if it does it again?12:36
cellofellowI've steamed DVD ISO's with VLC. It's too slow on Base100 Ethernet but gigabit ethernet would work.12:37
cellofellowDON'T do 802.11b wireless. You can't see a thing.12:37
Jester45cellofellow: i got gb ether12:38
cellofellowso, what's this ctrl+alt+l thing. It looked like it's supposed to do that cause it did it again. How do I undo it?12:38
cellofellowJester45: yeah, I know12:38
Jester45well a dvd a day adds up quick12:39
Jester45plus flac streams are a bit heavy also12:40
cellofellowout of hard drive space?12:40
Jester45nope12:40
cellofellowI'd be12:40
Jester45i got plenty12:40
Jester45im afk im going to play some games12:40
cellofellowok12:41
Jester45oo12:41
Jester45could stream tha talso :012:41
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cellofellowmaxamillion: any ideas what ctrl+alt+l does?12:44
maxamillioncellofellow: no ... i'm scared to try in order to find out12:45
cellofellowyeah, it's that way.12:45
maxamillion?12:47
cellofellowit's sort of scary. The computer went nuts12:47
maxamillioninteresting12:48
Jester45i will try12:51
Jester45nothing here12:51
Jester45im not gonna play games12:52
maxamillioni think i am ....12:53
Jester45cellofellow: will you help me with putting a blog on my site?12:53
maxamillionbrb12:53
cellofellowJester45: sure.12:53
cellofellowJester45: I say try WordPress12:53
Jester45all i have is apache212:54
Jester45no php sql or anything12:54
cellofellowwell, dunno12:54
Jester45i tried that but.. i dont know what to do12:54
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Jester45i would really like somthing like nvu12:55
Jester45but i didnt like that so much12:55
cellofellowI've installed WordPress on a hosted machine that had a simple web interface for it. But all it did was create a database and copy pre-configured files.12:55
cellofellowNo, not Nvu.12:55
cellofellowIf you use WordPress you can use BloGTK to write for it.12:55
Jester45i would like somthing that i can use templates with but... beable to customize them graphicaly12:56
cellofellowwordpress has templates, but if you want graphical customization of the template all I know is Blogger 2.12:56
grazieJester45: apache + php + mysql + wordpress = blog....easy12:57
Jester45iu really dont want to run php and mysql12:57
cellofellowJester45: use phpmyadmin for the mysql stuff and just use the repo version of wordpress.12:57
Jester45ok...12:58
cellofellowwell, there may be a blog that runs in Python and SQLite or flat files.12:58
cellofellowlook up blog engines in wikipedia, I think they've a big list.12:58
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maxamillionmoinmoin01:00
cellofellowI thought that was wiki.01:00
maxamillionoh lol01:00
maxamillionyeah, rgr01:00
maxamillionsame difference01:00
cellofellowthere should be a blog companion for moinmoin.01:01
maxamillionor just run something like drupal or joomla and blog on that :P01:01
cellofellowI said wordpress. He doesn't want to bother with PHP+MySQL.01:02
grazieJester45: there's blosxom if you like perl and flat files01:04
Jester45would that be less resource usage?01:04
cellofellowperl is a little faster than PHP I think.01:05
cellofellowand no database01:05
grazieJester45: oh yeah, but once you get a lot of data it'll start to crawl01:05
Jester45a lot of data as in? webpages?01:06
maxamillioncellofellow: i think they are actually pretty comparable for simple functions01:06
cellofellowwell, I was guessing01:06
maxamillioni don't actually know to be honest01:07
graziethe none db blogging software is looking a bit dated...imho01:09
maxamillionprobably is01:09
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cellofellowJester45: probably best to jump in and use WordPress or Drupal, or Zope if you want Python instead, but Zope and Drupal do so much more than blogs, while that's all WordPress does.01:13
Jester45how much resources will php and mysql use?01:13
Jester45im running that server on a lowend machine01:14
cellofellowPHP not much, only runs when called. MySQL will be a little burdensome but not too bad.01:14
Jester45like? a 2nd apache01:15
cellofellowprolly01:15
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cellofellowI run apache on a little Pentium.01:15
Jester45ok i will apt-get it01:16
Jester45oo no01:16
Jester4520.5 more mb01:17
Jester45that machine only has like 1g left01:17
cellofellowmy root disk (everything but /home) has about 4GB full of software.01:17
Jester45lol01:17
Jester45i think mine would be a 1g then the /home part is like 190gb01:18
Jester45well01:18
Jester45even more than that01:18
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cellofellowmy /home is a 40GB, and it's at about 10GB full. I keep adding multimedia stuff.01:19
cellofellowMostly OGG music.01:19
Jester45i use flac01:20
cellofellowMy speakers aren't so hot, so CD and Ogg sound about the same.01:20
cellofellowFlac would be about the same as CD.01:20
Jester45it is the same01:20
Jester45lossless01:20
cellofellowwell, Ogg works here.01:21
maxamillioni have 120gb hdd at home .... i have used 3.5gb :P01:21
Jester45lol01:21
cellofellowjeepers01:21
siegfried__Has anyone used xubuntu live to create a 1GB boot flash stick?01:21
Jester45you dont like videos01:21
maxamillionbut here at work i have a goofy partition scheme because i dual boot and keep a fat32 data hdd ... its crazy01:21
Jester45siegfried__: i tried once but install was taking to long01:22
maxamillionerrr data partition*01:22
cellofellowoh, so NTFS WinXP root, ext3 Linux root, and fat32 data part?01:22
Jester45well i have many diffrent setups01:22
Jester45thats kinda strange01:22
cellofellowI have one partition per disk, 'cept the root has a swap too, and three disks.01:23
siegfried__I had it working on knoppix a few days ago and now I cannot boot knoppix from CD or flash stick any more. I cannot figure out what changed.01:23
Jester45whynot just a ntfs data/ windows01:23
Jester45cellofellow: now what i apt-get ed01:23
cellofellowsiegfried__: sorry, outdated hardware keeps me from booting from USB.01:23
cellofellowJester45: also install phpmyadmin to set it up from a web interface.01:24
Jester45apt-get install phpmyadmin ?01:24
cellofellowyeah01:24
Jester45i think my blog will be weekly01:25
cellofellowmine's every-now-and-again-ly01:25
Jester45or when-i-got-newsly01:25
Jester45lol01:26
Jester45nice choice01:26
Jester45kinda weird that me and u both said same thing and used -01:26
cellofellowbeen quiet for quiet a while01:26
cellofellowfunny, in a way, yes.01:27
Jester45scary in toher ways01:27
Jester45ok now what01:27
cellofellowapt-get install wordpress too01:27
Jester45ok now what01:27
cellofellowand read the docs. Honestly I don't really know01:27
Jester45o man...01:27
Jester45walked me into this then left01:28
cellofellowNo, I'm still here. Just not sure what to do. I've an inlking. Create a database and configure WordPress to use it.01:28
Jester45forget that01:28
cellofellownever actually done either.01:29
cellofellowcan't be that hard.01:29
Jester45to much01:29
Jester45de apt-get ing01:29
cellofellowactually, I've got a drupal tarball here that I want to install. Not from apt cause I want to be able to do it on a hosted box.01:29
Jester45look at my site cellofellow i got a new script up01:30
cellofellowk01:30
cellofellowcool. It does menus? Is the final output a DVD ISO?01:31
Jester45so pretty now01:31
Jester45no01:32
Jester45the output is the dvd's folders01:32
Jester45i encluded the option to burn in the script all ou have to do is enter dvd device01:32
cellofellowI have no DVD burner. It'd be cool if the final product of the script was an ISO ready to be burned. (My dad has a burner.)01:32
Jester45the authoring part is messed up01:32
Jester45can you dd folder -> iso?01:33
Jester45it encodes it fine01:33
cellofellowI think it's mkisofs01:33
Jester45well i mgiht look into that01:33
Jester45might01:33
cellofellowok, thanks man01:34
Jester45pretty good for my 2nd script01:34
Jester45lol and my 1st script installs a kernel module01:34
Jester45bye bye cello01:36
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Dell_boyHi Im back I screwed up Linux!02:23
Dell_boyAcctually Mandriva02:24
Dell_boyI need Help02:24
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Qewtried #mandriva ?02:25
Dell_boyoh thanks02:25
Dell_boyis that the Connection name?02:26
Qewtype /join #mandriva02:26
Dell_boythanks bye02:26
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Qewbye02:26
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KvaddAnyone alive?02:31
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iKitchuhi fellas!!! i'm trying to get Xubuntu installed on an old iMac G3 400Mhz with 256Mb of ram (64 shared with video) and a 15Gb HD... so I guess it should be good enough to run it... but still when I get past the loooong splash screen it just turns black and nothing happens... could it be the video resolution? how could I change the installation settings (or boot settings) ????02:43
firefishcan you enter the console by pressing ctrl+alt+F1~6?02:54
iKitchulet me try that03:02
iKitchuyup I just got the console firefish, at least one good sign03:02
iKitchubut as soon as i get to F7, it craps03:03
iKitchuit doesn't even glitch the screen, it turns right off03:03
iKitchui just tested and it does exactly the same with Ubuntu 6.1003:04
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BrendanMIs there any way to sort the icons on the desktop? By size, filename, that sort of thing?03:38
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PuMpErNiCkLeNot that I know of.  xfdesktop seems pretty limited.03:40
Jester45PuMpErNiCkLe: is xfdesktop xubuntun made or xfce made?03:42
PuMpErNiCkLeIt's from xfce.03:42
Jester45think they will improve it?03:43
Jester45i do like gnome's ablity to use the filemanager options from the desktop03:43
PuMpErNiCkLeI think they're planning on using code from Thunar to manage the desktop.03:44
Jester45like gnome?03:44
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Jester45your back!!!!!!03:45
BrendanMusing thunar to manage the desktop is fine, I just wish I could sort my icons. Thunar lets you arrange stuff in folders.03:45
BrendanMoh well, it's not that big of a deal03:45
BrendanMI wonder how hard it would be to write a little script to do this?03:45
Jester45not to hard i would guess03:46
BrendanMAnyone have any idea where/how xfdesktop stores position info for the icons?03:46
cellofellowin .config/xfce4 somewhere03:46
BrendanMIs that something people would be interested in? I generally don't write things just for myself.03:46
Jester45i wouldnt use it03:47
Jester45i place the icons at my best used space03:47
BrendanMoh, this would be totally easy. there's a file called icons.screen0.rc that has all the info03:48
cellofellowI like my launchers on the left and my devices on the right.03:48
cellofellowPerl would probably be better than Bash.03:48
Jester45my devices are on top and folders on left/top area03:48
BrendanMI'm surprised nobody's done this before. (Or maybe they have and I just haven't looked hard enough)03:48
cellofellowprobably didn't publish it.03:48
BrendanMI don't really know perl, but I heard it's pretty simple.03:49
Jester45someone has done it b4 if its possible03:49
BrendanMjester, I'm sure that's true03:50
Jester45it seems like something that lindows might of had03:51
BrendanMProbably, Lindows/Linspire tries to ape Windows03:51
cellofellowWell, now it does that with Ubuntu under the hood.03:51
PuMpErNiCkLeWell, soon.03:53
cellofellowBy the next release.03:53
PuMpErNiCkLeAnd we get click'n'run, whatever good that's for. o.O03:53
cellofellowI don't really care for it, but I'm not against it. It'll make my friends who I talk into Ubuntu much happier.03:53
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BrendanMHow is C'n'R any better than apt-get or synaptic?03:57
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PuMpErNiCkLeIt's more like Add/Remove, apparently, and it's targetted at proprietary applications.04:01
iKitchui'm still waiting for an answer about my imac04:01
Jester45(07:43:06 PM) iKitchu: hi fellas!!! i'm trying to get Xubuntu installed on an old iMac G3 400Mhz with 256Mb of ram (64 shared with video) and a 15Gb HD... so I guess it should be good enough to run it... but still when I get past the loooong splash screen it just turns black and nothing happens... could it be the video resolution? how could I change the installation settings (or boot settings) ????04:02
Jester45BrendanM: C'n'R itsnt as good as apt with Cn04:03
Jester45R04:03
iKitchuyeah that's the one :P04:03
PuMpErNiCkLeYou can change the boot settings to give more information on where and when it's freezing by removing 'quiet' and 'splash' from the grub entry.04:03
Jester45you have pay for many things04:03
iKitchuthe grub entry? i'm trying to boot from the CD, a little more explanation would be appreciated 'cause i'm a newbie04:03
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BFTDtoday I had a pupernickel bagel04:04
BFTDpumpernickel04:04
PuMpErNiCkLeBefore it boots, you should, briefly at least, see a screen saying something like "Press esc for more option".04:04
Jester45what you had PuMpErNiCkLe's bagel eeeww thats nasty04:04
PuMpErNiCkLes/option/options/04:05
iKitchuPuMpErNiCkLe I don't get that but I at least get BOOT : and then it says it'll tell me more details if I type help but all i get as the options are not what I need04:05
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Dell_boy_Hi everyone im having a Linux Problem04:06
Jester45welcome back Dell_boy_04:06
iKitchuDell_boy_ I would be surprised if you would've said windows04:06
Dell_boy_lol04:06
Dell_boy_I am on Window04:07
Dell_boy_Windows04:07
iKitchuewwww04:07
Dell_boy_Linux wont boot up04:07
iKitchugross04:07
Dell_boy_lol04:07
iKitchu:P04:07
Dell_boy_im starting from Scratch04:07
BFTDJester45 no, its a name of a bagel04:07
Jester45BFTD: lol i know04:08
PuMpErNiCkLeiKitchu: 'nosplash' at least should help - it will show the actual console output, that way.04:08
Dell_boy_wait......i dont need help....opps XD04:08
iKitchuPuMpErNiCkLe thanks i'll try it right away04:09
grazieiKitchu: hang on a minute04:10
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iKitchuok04:11
iKitchucraaap!... it's giving me a whole bunch of Buffer I/O error, maybe I burnt the disk too fast (40X)04:12
grazieiKitchu: your description sounds like a known iMac problem..I'm sure it;s described in the forums04:13
iKitchuohhh geeee04:14
iKitchuI just stumbled upon one...04:14
iKitchuit reads : The only serious problem with G3 iMacs and Breezy is that it installs with wrong refresh rates in xorg.conf, leaving you with a black screen after booting.04:14
iKitchuBooting in text-only mode and changing the refresh rates to horizontal:60-6 and vertical: 43-117 should get you up and running nicely. Ormanually adjust during install by choosing expert mode.04:14
iKitchucan someone tell me how to change that in text mode?04:14
grazieiKitchu: that's the one04:15
grazieiKitchu: what do you need telling?04:16
iKitchuI guess I wanna try changing my refresh rate to what i'm being told in the forum... but they don't explain how... and forgive my sins please but I used to be a windows user04:17
iKitchulol04:17
grazieiKitchu: boot the machine in recovery mode04:17
iKitchuit's not even installed yet, i'm using the live CD and trying to install04:18
grazieiKitchu: is that not explain in the post?04:18
iKitchuno, they just say the refresh rate is not good04:19
Jester45at pree boot you have 4 optios04:19
grazieiKitchu: i'm thinking you may need the alternate cd04:19
Jester45one should be advance or other04:19
Jester45click on that then enter on the new line of text the refresh rates04:20
Jester45sorry if im a bit rusty on the wording of the cd04:20
iKitchuJester45 isn't it expert?04:21
iKitchuXD04:21
iKitchui just tried something : live video=ofonly04:27
Jester45well i havent been on a live cd for a year04:28
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grazieiKitchu: I'm about to turn in. If you don't get sorted, put something on the ppc forum.04:30
rynoI'm very pleased with this distro, thank you devel.04:32
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BrendanMiKitchu, is there a reason you're trying to Live CD? I've had better luck with the text-mode alternate CD on older systems04:37
Dell_boy_I redownloaded Mandriva it took 1minute to download that 696mb file04:37
Dell_boy_thats 11mbps04:40
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atraincan xubuntu install to a usb drive normaly? Or where can I get a proper printed copy for cheap/free? (I have an old iMac that cant read burnt discs, only 1 IDE channel so I cant stick in a proper drive temp, so have to make the main one as a external USB)04:52
kalikianaatrain, I suppose if the stick has enough memory you could put a basic xubuntu on it, but i don't remember a link right now04:55
atrainnot a stick, an actual harddrive.... will xubuntu-alternate install to /dev/sdaX?04:56
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BrendanMatrain, probably, as long as your BIOS has support for USB hard drives05:03
PuMpErNiCkLeIf he shows up again, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=806e731ea9fd1aba4e298f8f0c273772&t=308027 is for him.05:05
BrendanMif the BIOS doesn't support USB, you might have better luck with the LiveCD, since you'd be installing from within a system with USB drivers. It'll probably still take some serious tinkering with GRUB to get it to boot.05:05
PuMpErNiCkLeBrendanM: He's gone.05:05
BrendanMah yeah05:05
BrendanMoh well05:05
BrendanMthat looks like a good link05:05
BrendanMIt only works if the BIOS will boot from USB though, right?05:06
PuMpErNiCkLeYeah.  If the BIOS won't boot from USB, there's no way your main drive will be USB.05:07
BrendanMCouldn't you do some voodoo where you put like a minimal version of Linux (the equivalent of one of those floppy distros) on the IDE hard drive, booted to that, and then used that to load the main OS from the USB drive?05:09
BrendanMIt seems like it should be possible, if very annoying to do05:10
PuMpErNiCkLeDefinitely.  Once Linux is loaded, you don't face any of the BIOS limitations.05:10
BrendanMwell, I'm turning in. Later05:13
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Bogus8anyone use an online backup service?05:25
Bogus8if so which one and what was your experience with them?05:25
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BrendanMDoes anyone know if there's a way to make VLC show the title of the song it's playing in the titlebar when it's minimized? Would Xfce's panel support that?08:08
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BFTDhow do I cp a dir from one place to another? cp doesn't seem to work09:09
gabkdllycp -r09:09
gabkdllyfor explainations of what other fun things cp can do, do "man cp" ;)09:10
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sdac221x_hi can someone please help me set up a complete sources.list file ?  I added everything from guides but still can't find the stuff i need.10:32
sdac221x_sorry wrong room scratch that question10:33
coNPsdac221x_: what do you need?10:33
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copter944hi. does anyone knows how to change a decimal separator in xfce?12:09
copter944never mind12:18
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Gremhi12:45
gabkdllyhi Grem12:45
Gremdoes anyone know if xubuntu feisty herd 4 has XFCE 4.4 final?12:48
grazieGrem: it does12:49
Gremyay =)12:50
Gremtks12:50
Gremgonna test herd 4 later today12:50
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michaelpohello.... i cannot watch vcd... i can watch dvd... what do I need to do? before i did a reinstallation i could watch both dvd and vcd after i installed some package... i could not find the website that teach me how to do it now... please help...01:04
graziemichaelpo: you're probably missing some codecs. which applications are you trying?01:06
michaelpograzie: i'm using mplayer and totem01:07
graziemichaelpo: vlc is good if you want to try it as I don't think you'll need anything extra to play vcd01:08
michaelpograzie: ok.. will try that...01:08
graziemichaelpo: easyubuntu is a useful script for getting codecs, etc01:09
grazie!easyubuntu | michaelpo01:09
ubotumichaelpo: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu01:09
michaelpodownloading vlc now...01:11
michaelpovlc did not work... it crashed when first loading vcd content..01:21
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graziemichaelpo: do you know exactly when it stopped working?01:25
michaelpowhen i click open disc01:26
michaelpochoose vcd... then click ok..01:26
graziemichaelpo: no. do you know when (what day) your system stopped being able to play vcd?01:27
michaelpoafter i reinstalled my system...01:27
graziemichaelpo: a reinstall, not an update?01:28
michaelporeinstall...01:29
michaelponot update...01:29
graziemichaelpo: so you've done no updates on the new install?01:29
michaelpoi may have missed out on installing some package...01:29
michaelpoyes i have done updates too...01:29
graziemichaelpo: the problem is probably a bad update01:30
graziemichaelpo: can you play other media?01:31
michaelpoi can play dvd...01:34
michaelpoi can play wmv, rm, avi, mpg, mov....01:34
graziemichaelpo: are you using edgy?01:34
michaelpoyup01:34
graziemichaelpo:  the quickest way to sort the problem would be to do a fresh install and don't update01:35
graziegrazie: then get vlc and/or the codecs + extras that you need01:36
michaelporeally?01:36
michaelpohmm... maybe i shall wait for feisty01:36
graziemichaelpo: I don't know of any reasons why vcd would have stopped working01:37
michaelpoi've also just installed quake... where is the icon to start quake?01:39
graziemichaelpo: sorry I don't know quake. do you not have a games menu?01:40
michaelpoi dont have games menu01:40
graziemichaelpo: you may have to create one yourself. if you type 'quake' in a terminal what happens?01:41
michaelpotried that01:42
michaelpoah...01:42
michaelpoquake2 works01:42
graziemichaelpo:good01:42
michaelponope... it dont work...01:42
graziedunno01:43
michaelpoError: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx01:43
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michaelpoi did a right click property in synaptic for quake2... lots of different directory... where is the quake2.exe file?01:56
graziemichaelpo: there is no quake2,exe (that's Wondoze). in a terminal do 'which quake2' to find out where it is installed01:58
michaelpousr/games/quake2 but there is no pics/colormap.pcx02:01
michaelpowhich quake2 in terminal gives /usr/games/quake2 but there is no pics/colormap.pcx02:02
michaelponevermind... no need to try quake2... try something else...02:08
michaelpois there another good fps that i can try in linux?02:10
gabkdllymichaelpo: glxgears02:11
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michaelpograzie: cant find glxgears in synaptics02:18
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michaelpo i cant find the .deb file for alienarena02:31
gabkdllymichaelpo: glxgears is installed by default. I think it comes with Xorg02:32
michaelpoi typed glxgears in terminal... it is 3 gears turning around and round02:33
gabkdllyalthough, I am having a little trouble with it myself. I am used to glxgears just spitting out for me the FPS on the terminal from which I am running it. That is the way it worked by default on Gentoo. I am not sure how to get it to do that on Xubuntu.02:33
graziemichaelpo: can't you select gears from Applications > Settings Manager > Screensaver?02:35
graziemichaelpo: Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Screensaver?02:35
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michaelpoim tired.... will try finding fps and installing it another day..... bedtime... good night...02:38
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pbcrunchhello.  i just installed xubuntu on a pentium III 1000 with 192MB RAM, an intel i810 motherboard with integrated graphics,a 40 gig drive, and a PCI ethernet controller.  i can ping google.com and other websites in a terminal window but i cant get firefox to connect to any websites.  gaim cant connect to anything either.02:52
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danboidI'm just downloading herd 4 now!02:59
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danboidWould it be possible for me to share one /home oartition between xubuntu and a Debian version (I want to try sidux)?03:01
PuMpErNiCkLeYes.03:06
pbcrunchany command lin eapplications i run can access the internet but none of the X applications i run can03:09
pbcrunchi can apt-get update, but synaptic cant update03:09
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badockhello all03:17
lar1hi03:17
badockdo you guys use xfce4-terminal ?03:17
badockcause if so, i have troubles with the screen command03:18
lar1how so?03:18
badocki can't do a backspace with xfce4-terminal while it's "screened"03:18
badockif you see what i mean ...03:18
badockdo you know where this might come from ?03:18
badock(NOTE : the Ctrl+h works fine though...)03:19
lar1I'm very, very new to xfce.  Does ctrl-H give the effect you need?03:19
badockyes like for every terminal03:19
badockbut it's not confortable03:20
lar1and the backspace key works fine when not using 'screen' ?03:20
badockyes it does03:21
badockand the backspace works fine with any other terminal03:21
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badock(xterm and rxvt)03:21
badocklar1,  could you try that yourself ?03:22
badockjust to compare03:22
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lar1Yeah.  I get the same problem in screen03:22
lar1How about looking at Edit->Preferences->Advanced and then explicitly setting what the backspace and delete produce. i.e. ^H03:23
badockmmmh03:24
badockok let's try that03:24
badockok it seems to work03:25
badockthanks lar1 ;)03:25
badockyou might be new, but you helped me right03:25
lar1ok, good it's fixed03:33
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lar1I have a brand new installation from xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso which complains about not finding the repositories.I get the same problem with both synaptic and apt-get.  The errors are 'could not connect to fi.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (193.166.3.5). - connect (113 No rout to host)' for each repository03:39
BrendanMthat sounds like a network error. Do you have internet connectivity?03:40
BrendanM(obviously you do on the computer you're talking to us on)03:40
PuMpErNiCkLeEdit the country prefix out of each entry in /etc/apt/sources.list and it will pull them from the main site at archive.ubuntu.com.03:40
PuMpErNiCkLeUpdate, first, before you try to install anything.03:41
BrendanMSo I wrote a script to alphabetize the desktop icons, and it works, but I have to log out and back in to see the changes, is there a quicker way to refresh the desktop?03:41
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PuMpErNiCkLeF503:42
lar1ok,03:42
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BrendanMpumpernickle, nice. What does that actually do?03:43
lar1the machine has network and DNS works, too03:43
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Knurgvurderer  sette opp et raid5 array p min maskin med mdadm i linux03:51
Knurgog dette var feilposting :) sorry03:52
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lar1ok , I've tried removing the country prefix from apt/sources.list, but get the same errors (Could not connect ... connect 113 no route to host)04:04
lar1but can look up the hosts in dns and even ping them04:04
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VilhelmsI just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)04:34
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grazieVilhelms: I don't know, but sounds like you X config is not set up quite right04:52
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Vilhelmsgrazie, I haven't made any changes... all I did was install xubuntu-desktop using apt05:01
VilhelmsWell, I have another question regardless... where is .xinitrc and .xprofile? I need to edit it so I can add my Xmodmap for the media keys on my laptop.05:02
PuMpErNiCkLeThey're in ~/05:03
VilhelmsPuMpErNiCkLe, Alright thanks :)05:03
VilhelmsNeither of them exist in there, should I just create them?05:03
PuMpErNiCkLeSure.05:04
VilhelmsPuMpErNiCkLe, Alright thanks :)05:04
VilhelmsAnd then do I just ctrl+alt+backspace and relogin for it to load that?05:05
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PuMpErNiCkLeYeah.05:07
sdac221x_i am trying to install some thinkpad software throught synaptic...and it wants to remove "xubuntu-desktop" package in order to install this... is this right ?? should i allow it to go ahead ?05:09
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lar1I have a fresh install of xubuntu from xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso and it is having trouble contacting the repositories for update.  Neither synaptic nor apt-get can get through, though ping works and host returns a valid answer.  The errors apply both for the regional archives ( e.g. fi.archive.ubuntu.com ) and the central ones ( archive.ubuntu.com )    An example of the error message:05:19
lar1Failed to fetch http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Could not connect to fi.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (193.166.3.5). - connect (113 No route to host)05:19
lar1Reading package lists... Done05:19
lar1E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.05:19
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lar1The URL above works on a KDE (kubuntu) machine using wget and apt-get.05:24
grazielar1: apart from ping, does any other networking work?05:26
lar1yes, dns works and I can browse the web using ff or konq05:26
lar1not konq05:26
lar1just ff05:26
grazielar1: is /etc/apt/sources.lst the same as the kubuntu machine?05:29
grazielar1: if you've got the same release on both machines that is...05:29
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lar1I've tried both, but same result.  Both are 6.10, I'll do a diff ...05:30
grazielar1: I thought you said kubuntu works?05:31
lar1Kubuntu works, but using the sources.list on the xubuntu machine does not change the errors05:31
lar1The links, like the one above, from the xubuntu can be cut and pasted from the apt-get error messages into the kubuntu machine where they are accessible05:32
grazielar1: so kubuntu works completely and xubuntu doesn't work at all, yes?05:33
grazielar1: for apt-get, etc05:33
lar1yes05:33
graziev.strange05:33
lar1yes.  that's why I check here05:34
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graziebut apt-get update worked on xubuntu?05:34
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lar1neither apt-get nor synaptic work on xubuntu, apt-get update gets as far as 37% before the error occurs05:35
grazielooks like an xubuntu specific problem, but no idea what it could be05:36
lar1I'm suspecting a problem with repository itself, but am not sure what or how05:36
lar1the reason it's a fresh install is that the old one, which used to allow me to update, stopped allowing me to update (this error)05:37
grazieyeah, no knowledge myself either, but most package are shared so it's not the packages themselves05:38
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VilhelmsHow do I set the Windows Key as Super in Xubuntu?05:39
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lar1probably not, nor with the directories since (in addition to them being shared) I can fetch them with wget from the kubuntu machine05:40
lar1can't fetch them with wget from the xubuntu machine05:40
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grazielar1: i don't there's a specific channel for your problem, but #ubuntu-motu guys may have seen something similar before05:42
grazie*don't think05:42
lar1nor will firefox on the xubuntu machine get the files, but works just fine from ff on the kubunt machine05:43
PuMpErNiCkLeAre they on the same network?05:44
lar1yes05:44
grazielar1: seems like you got some kind of block05:44
PuMpErNiCkLeRouter problem, most likely.05:44
PuMpErNiCkLeI've had issues like that with DLink models.05:44
lar1I'm using DSL05:44
graziesame router?05:44
lar1yes05:45
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grazielar1: you tried switching network ports on the router?05:48
tuxcrafterhello i have a question, when I print in xubuntu 6.10 with evince and I try to change for example the paper tray it will nog accept these changes and print the default way. I have to go to cups webinterfase change the default printing systems as root and than print with evince. How can I solve this. I want to be able to change settings in the print dialog. btw openoffice printdialog workst just fine.05:48
VilhelmsHow do I set the Windows Key as Super in Xubuntu?05:48
lar1grazie,  yes same effect when trying a different router port.05:49
grazielar1:it must be your network config on the xubuntu machine05:51
grazielar1: what live cds have you got?05:51
lar1ok, but on the xubuntu host I can both ping the repository hosts and look them up in dns05:52
lar1I'm not sure if it's a live cd, it's xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso05:52
grazielar1: what about kubuntu?05:53
lar1kubuntu-6.10-alternate-powerpc.iso05:53
grazieknoppix?05:53
lar1I have an old knoppix lying about05:53
lar1... somewhere05:54
lar1got it05:54
grazieI'd try the same tests on the xubuntu machine05:54
graziewith knoppix05:54
lar1ok, should I try apt-get with knoppix?05:55
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grazienope05:55
lar1what tests, then?05:55
lar1ping and host?05:55
lar1Vilhelms, have you looked in Applications->Settings->Keyboard Settings->Shortcuts ?05:56
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graziewell you could use apt-get (I think), just don't download big stuff. no room05:56
graziethe wget test would good05:57
lar1ok booting to knoppix, it's a PII 333MHz w/ 128MB05:57
graziefine05:58
Vilhelmslar1, Yes I have06:00
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lar1grazie, dns works under knoppix and I can ssh to the kubuntu host but cannot do more06:12
lar1how to I start/stop the network services in knoppix06:12
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bigredradioI want to remove abiword, but apt-get states it will remove xubuntu-desktop as well. Anyway to just remove abiword using apt-get? Otherwise I can always use rm06:14
grazielar1: it autodetects for me. From what you've just said networking is fine on knoppix06:16
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grazielar1: does your router do dhcp for setting up network?06:17
tuxcrafterhello i have a question, when I print in xubuntu 6.10 with evince and I try to change for example the paper tray it will nog accept these changes and print the default way. I have to go to cups webinterfase change the default printing systems as root and than print with evince. How can I solve this. I want to be able to change settings in the print dialog. btw openoffice printdialog workst just fine.06:17
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graziebigredradio: xubuntu-desktop is meta package, removing will do no harm06:18
graziebigredradio: but if it then adds additions packages do not remove them (come back here)06:19
bigredradiograzie: Thanks. removed (and I'm still here)06:21
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lar1yes, it does dhcp06:22
graziete he06:22
grazielar1: if I were you, I'd try shutting down both machines and boot the xubuntu attached to the router port that the kubuntu machines is normally attached06:23
grazielar1: make a note the each machines ip before doing so to check it's changed06:24
lar1ok.  I think I'll try getting the router to give the IP number from the kubuntu machine to the xubuntu machine06:24
grazieyes06:24
lar1though it may be that the PII has died just now :(06:25
grazieoh no06:25
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lar1it's quite old and heavily travelled.  I'll go offline and try those things. thanks for the advice06:27
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grazieany virtualbox users about?06:47
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xubuntutesterhi06:51
graziehello there06:51
xubuntutestercan you help me ?06:52
xubuntutesteri have a problem with compiling06:53
grazie!ask06:53
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:53
xubuntutestereverytime i try compile a program it comes an error message like06:54
xubuntutesterthere is no gtk+ 2.1.0 or higher found06:54
xubuntutesterno gui compiled06:54
xubuntutesterbut in synaptik i installed all gtk libs06:54
xubuntutesterin arklinux it was no problem06:55
xubuntutesterno idea?06:57
graziexubuntutester: the most package is build-essential. do you have that?06:57
grazie*most important06:58
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xubuntutesterwhat? whem you mean that i need the dev* versions from the packages then i have it06:59
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graziexubuntutester: also iirc gtk+ is in libgtk+...06:59
tuxcrafterI have a question, when I print in xubuntu 6.10 with evince and I try to change for example the paper tray it will nog accept these changes and print the default way. I have to go to cups webinterfase change the default printing systems as root and than print with evince. How can I solve this. I want to be able to change settings in the print dialog. btw openoffice printdialog workst just fine.06:59
xubuntutesterapt-get install libgtk+ ?07:00
xubuntutesteror apt-get install libgtk+-dev07:00
graziexubuntutester: apt-get/synaptic should sort all the dependencies for you07:00
xubuntutesteroot@ubuntu:~# apt-get install libgtk+07:01
xubuntutesterReading package lists... Done07:01
xubuntutesterBuilding dependency tree... Done07:01
xubuntutesterE: Couldn't find package libgtk07:01
xubuntutesterchecking for GTK+ - version >= 2.10.0... no07:04
xubuntutester*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...07:04
xubuntutester*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the07:04
xubuntutester*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.07:04
xubuntutesterCannot find GTK! Not building GTK FrontEnd.07:04
xubuntutesterand this is the error while compaling07:04
grazie!pastebin | xubuntutester:07:05
ubotuxubuntutester:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:05
xubuntutesterok07:05
xubuntutestersry next time07:05
xubuntutesterbut nobody knows the missing lib?07:05
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graziexubuntutester: use synaptic to search for packages...07:06
xubuntutesteri installed every dev and so which i find with search in in synaptik07:06
graziexubuntutester: well you obviously haven't installed everything you need yet. they don't necessarily need to be -dev packages07:08
xubuntutesteri installed the 1.2 packages and the 2.0 packages07:09
xubuntutesteronly the perl and html binding doesn't installed07:09
xubuntutesterbut why should i use an ubuntu OS where it doesn't is possible to compile some tools07:12
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xubuntutesterand there is no support to find07:16
VilhelmsI upgraded my GTK to 2.10 and now my Windows key is being detected but when I try to use Windows+Any key for a shortcut it only reads Super_L07:16
VilhelmsI could change it in gnome but I can't figure out how to do it in xfce07:16
bigredradioxubuntutester: Dunno if this is related, but I know that Xubunu/Ubunut, etc. uses dash instead of bash. relink sh -> bash.07:17
bigredradioxubuntutester: I know that it causes some make files to fail. Maybe how it finds dependancies is broken. Just a guess though07:19
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xubuntutesterthe scary at the problem is that i could compile the programm under arklinux withou a problem07:21
graziexubuntutester: I agree ubuntu doesn't make it easy to find out exactly how to compile packages from source, but it's not a source based distro. The vast majority aren't interested.07:26
graziexubuntutester: If and when I get a little time I may write some notes. But the answers are in the forums if you look07:27
xubuntutesterscary scary07:27
xubuntutesterand i think that Damn small Linux is heavy to setup complette07:27
xubuntutesterbut there was it easier to find the missigng packages07:28
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xubuntutesterand kasablanca doesn't find the x server?07:33
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xubuntutesterdis there any other irc chan where i can get help?07:36
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VilhelmsI have installed GTK+2.10.9 so I can use the Windows Key, but when I try to assign a shortcut to Windows+D for example, it only reads Super_L07:37
xubuntutestervilhelms where do you grab the gtk+2.10.9 ?07:37
Vilhelmsxubuntutester, The GTK+ website. I downloaded the source and compiled it07:41
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BFTDyeah, I formatted a partition and now when I boot Xubuntu I get a UID error....someone wanna help?07:51
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grazieBFTD: pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output from 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' in a terminal07:53
BFTDok07:53
ComradeCWhen I go to the netorking menu under the system menu, I try to save a location, but everytime I go to save a name, it just leaves the location textbox blank?  Any ideas?07:53
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grazieBFTD: if your formatted partition is on /dev/hdb or /dev/sda obviously use that07:54
BFTDyeah07:54
BFTDI know07:54
BFTDI know whats wrong07:56
graziek07:56
BFTDI just ca't remember how to fix it07:56
BFTDhttp://pastebin.ca/35750407:56
BFTDsda2 is the one giving me trouble07:56
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grazieBFTD: is formatting the only change?08:00
BFTDyes08:00
BFTDsize and type are still the same08:00
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grazieBFTD: Does the error give you the UUID?08:03
BFTDyes08:03
grazieand it is?08:03
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BFTDfsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)08:04
BFTDfsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=e55c4aa2-5031-4d40-a820-c0f2bead29bd'08:04
BFTDfsck died with exit status 808:04
BFTDgrazie that't the error08:05
grazieBFTD: ah! You've got an file system check error, not a mounting error08:07
BFTDoh, yeah08:07
BFTDsorry to mention that08:07
grazieBFTD: how did you format the partition?08:07
BFTDFC6 partitioner08:08
BFTDI needed it for work08:08
grazieBFTD: as root "umount /media/sda2'08:10
BFTDcan't08:10
BFTDI'm on that08:10
BFTDyou mean sda2?08:10
BFTDoops08:11
BFTDread that wrong08:11
BFTDok08:11
BFTDwhats next?08:11
graziefrom where did you format the partition?08:11
BFTDfrom the FC6 Install CD08:12
grazieand where are you now?08:12
BFTDXubuntu08:15
BFTDon partition sda308:15
BFTDFC is on sda208:15
grazieBFTD: and you want FC zapped?08:15
BFTDno08:16
BFTDI just want this error to go away on boot up of Xubuntu08:16
grazie? but you formatted /dev/sda2 ?08:16
BFTDgrazie yes08:17
BFTDtoo install FC608:17
BFTDJester45 whats up with the bots?08:17
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grazieBFTD: when I said zap I meant remove all the data on /dev/sda2...is that ok?08:18
VilhelmsI installed GTK+2.10.9 to fix the Windows Key Problem but now when I try to bind a shortcut with Windows, like Windows+D it only reads Super_L08:18
BFTDgrazie well, I guess, I haven't installed anything other then the OS08:19
grazieBFTD: are you preparing to install FC6 on /dev/sda2?08:20
BFTDgrazie already did08:21
grazieBFTD: but you said you formatted /dev/sda2!08:22
BFTDgrazie yes, to install FC608:22
BFTDwhich I did08:22
grazieBFTD: nothing went wrong with the install?08:23
BFTDgrazie nope08:23
grazieBFTD: can you boot FC6?08:24
BFTDgrazie yes08:24
BFTDgrazie becasue I formatted the partition, the UID changed08:24
sacaterhey guys, whats that little bar you can get on the bottom of the screen with icons. And when you hover over one, it grows bigger than the rest and you can click on it08:24
BFTDall I want to do is figure out how to get the new one08:24
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grazieBFTD: try replacing the UUID with /dev/sda2 and reboot08:25
grazieBFTD: ok?08:25
BFTDok08:25
graziesacater: varous docks08:26
sacaterok08:26
sacaterill look it up08:26
graziesacater: engage, kiba-dock08:26
sacatererm08:26
sacaterwhich one is best for xfce08:27
graziesacater: not part of xfce08:27
sacaterag08:27
sacaterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3p8IBNNd88 #08:27
graziesacater: Dreamlinux uses engage - works quite well I think08:27
sacaterits shown 36 seconds into that video08:27
sacaterwell i want one that is ubuntu comap08:28
sacatercompat*08:28
graziesacater: not loading for me yet..too busy. I suspect it's kiba-dock.08:29
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VilhelmsI installed GTK+2.10.9 to fix the Windows Key Problem but now when I try to bind a shortcut with Windows, like Windows+D it only reads Super_L08:30
OGDAok, all works well08:30
sacatergrazie i cant find it08:31
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graziesacater: not in the repos I don't think ... try this link to confirm kiba-dock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS4Z5VghfhE08:32
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sacatergrazie: thats the one, where do i get it08:33
graziesacater: dunno...I think it's naff :)08:34
sacaterhmm okay08:34
grazieBFTD: somehow your UUID got got changed08:35
BFTDgrazie thats waht I said08:35
grazieBFTD: does FC6 use UUIDs?08:35
BFTDit changes when you reformat the partition08:35
BFTDgrazie no08:36
grazieare there no FC6 channels?08:36
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sacaterdoes anyone here know of a good screen recorder08:43
graziesacater: screencastings?08:44
sacaternever heard of it but ill look it up :P08:45
graziesacater: pictures or movie?08:45
sacatermovie08:46
graziesacater: there's a ubuntu server that can be used with vnc, but never done it myself08:48
graziesacater: to produce a flash movie08:49
sacaterkk ty08:49
sacaterah hell ill use my digi camera and mini-tripod08:50
grazieheh08:53
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xubuntutester/usr/local/kde/bin/kasablanca kasablanca: cannot connect to X server08:54
xubuntutesterwhats wrong with the tool?08:54
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graziexubuntutester: #kubuntu are more likely to know the answer08:59
sacatergrazie: sure you dont know where i can find kiba dock09:05
graziesacater: no idea... but I can look...you may have to build from source?09:09
sacatercan do, i build everything from source09:09
sacaterplease do look09:09
sacatercos i cant find it09:09
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sacatergrazie: does it HAVE to use xgl09:12
graziesacater: no idea...not my kinda thing...here's a .deb http://www.silksoul.com/edgy/kiba-dock_0.1cvs20061110matt-1_i386.deb09:12
sacaterty09:13
grazienp09:15
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sacatergrazie: okay, i have it installed, was there any instruction on how to run it09:16
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riphello all09:16
graziesacater: dunno...got the link from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31278909:17
sacaterkk09:17
ripnewbie on xubuntu-fr, i need some help to configure my sound09:17
ripnot und any info on google and ubuntu forums09:18
graziehi rip09:18
riphi grazie09:18
grazierip: no sound at all?09:18
ripnope09:18
grazierip: new install?09:18
ripon this laptop yes09:18
ripits a special09:18
ripsony vaio t1xp09:19
grazieno install problems?09:19
ripnope, all ok; even for wide screen 1280x76809:20
ripfound this old website09:20
riphttp://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/sony_vaio_t1xp_linux.html09:20
grazierip: in a terminal do 'alsamixer;09:20
rip1. Install the ALSA soundsystem. If I enter 'dpkg -l | grep alsa' today, the09:20
rip   following lines appear:09:20
rip   ii  alsa-base      1.0.8-7        ALSA driver configuration files09:20
rip   ii  alsa-utils     1.0.8-3        ALSA utilities09:20
rip   ii  alsaplayer     0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA09:20
rip   ii  alsaplayer-com 0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA (common files)09:20
rip   ii  alsaplayer-gtk 0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA (GTK version)09:20
rip   ii  alsaplayer-oss 0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA (OSS output mod09:20
rip2. In the file /etc/hotplug/blacklist add a line at the bottom with: snd_intel8x0m09:20
rip3. In the file /etc/modules add on two separate lines:09:20
ripsnd_ac97_codec09:20
ripsnd_intel8x009:21
rip4. After a reboot the sound should work properly.09:21
rip5. Well, please note, that there is a sound on/off-switch on the front of the09:21
rip   notebook; it should be set to 'on' (orange LED is then off)09:21
graziepastebin | rip09:21
ripyes the mixer in the xterm window qappears09:21
rippastebin?09:21
grazierip: use pastebin for bin large amounts of text09:22
ripdont konw this function sorry09:22
grazierip: http://pastebin.ca/09:22
LordGamerafternoon all09:22
grazierip: paste text onto this (or other) website09:23
sacatergrazie: kiba dock has started, but nothing new is showing up09:23
graziesacater: I know nothing!09:23
sacaterkk09:23
LordGamerAnyone know a X264 mencoder GUI?09:24
ripok, i'll do next time09:24
grazierip: that link is quite on old kernel09:24
ripyes but was unable to find anything related to lnux on this laptop09:24
sacatergrazie: may I make i tiny swear, but not offending anyone09:24
grazierip: do any the the channels have MM at the bottom (particulary Master and PCM)09:25
graziesacater: no09:25
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sacaterdarn09:25
sacaterwell ill say that kiba is &&&*(^&^) brilliant!09:26
sacateryou got to get it09:26
grazie!language | sacater09:26
ubotusacater: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:26
grazie:)09:26
sacaterubotu09:26
sacateris he a bot09:26
ripno, master and pcm are NOT mm09:26
grazieyes, was asleep, but awake again09:26
grazierip: try this link for sound trouble  shooting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting09:28
ripok, thanks09:28
ripi use to read the french forum and doc09:29
riplet's try this one09:29
ripthank you09:29
grazienp09:29
graziesacater: kiba-dock is now working?09:29
sacateryes09:29
graziewhat's your hw09:29
graziesacater: ?09:31
sacatererm09:31
sacater128mb nvidia chip09:31
sacaterand 3G proccessor09:31
sacaterx8609:31
graziesacater: no wonder09:31
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graziemaxamillion: hey09:55
riphello again09:56
ripgracie09:56
ripi found the pb09:56
ripfor the sound09:56
graziek09:56
grazierip: and....09:56
ripYou can get sound working at this point by running amixer09:57
ripamixer set 'External Amplifier' mute09:57
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grazieah well09:57
ripthat was just taht09:57
PCGeniehello, i am looking for ubuntu 6.06 howto docs for setting ports on a web/email server, where can i get server docs?09:57
ripmerci encore grazie09:57
grazierip: prego09:57
maxamilliongrazie: hello09:57
graziemaxamillion: what was the name of the rpm site you gave me...I can't find it and forgot  to bookmark09:58
graziemaxamillion: also do you use virtualbox at all?09:59
maxamilliongrazie: i have no clue ... it was after a 20 minute google search following links :(09:59
maxamillionnope, never used it ... i read about it though09:59
graziemaxamillion: sorry :(09:59
maxamillionno worries ... but i really don't know if i could find it again09:59
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grazieI should remember to bookmark good links!!!10:00
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grumpymole~5D5C10:09
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graziegrumpymole: no clue10:10
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Maximilian1sthey hyper_ch :-)10:13
Maximilian1stGuten abend.10:13
PCGenie_hello all: i am looking for howto manuals for setting up my amd64 server. i am coming from the mandrake realms and testing ubuntu on the server i am rebuilding. i need to know how to control the ports10:14
graziehyper_ch: hi10:14
graziehyper_ch: I'm just trying virtualbox out10:15
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PCGenie_hyper_ch, what system config and version are you using? x86? x64? which ubuntu?10:17
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BFTDhow do I get grub to boot something that ends in "xen" like vmlinuz-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6zen10:19
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ComradeCdoes anyone know why when i hit ctrl alt f2 for a text console it just loads like the grey/white xserver screen instead?10:26
maxamillionComradeC: not sure .. try ctrl+alt+f1 maybe?10:27
ComradeCit does it for all of them10:27
ComradeCits just xubuntu that does this10:27
ComradeCit does the same thing when booting, like it wont show the console when I turn on the computer10:27
kalikianathat's definitely not the normal behavior in xubuntu10:28
ComradeChmm thats odd10:28
ComradeCcould it be the fact that maybe my cdrw was damage10:28
ComradeCcause I was using a really old crusty one10:29
ComradeCbut it still went through?10:29
PuMpErNiCkLeIf the install media was damaged, anything could happen.10:30
ComradeCits odd cause i have a vmware install of the same disk and it does the same thing10:30
PuMpErNiCkLeDoes the md5 of the iso match the official md5?10:32
ComradeCdidnt check10:32
ComradeCthanks ill look at it though10:32
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grazieComradeC: should...always :)10:33
graziehey this virtualbox is very good10:33
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grazieanyone have problems using CD-RW disks for booting Xubuntu?10:39
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VilhelmsIs there a way to make the Launcher on the Panel expand instead of having a submenu?10:45
grazieVilhelms: like a dock?10:47
Jester45ummm Vilhelms are you meaning the menu or a launcher10:54
VilhelmsThe launcher that goes on the Panel10:55
VilhelmsYou right click on the panel > Add Item > Launcher10:55
Jester45grazie: no i use rw for the herd images10:55
Jester45ok mine dont expand i just have a luacnher for each program10:56
Jester45Vilhelms: thats the only way i know of having it10:58
grazieJester45: rw and cd-rw are different?10:59
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Jester45grazie: i ment rw as in cd-rw as in cd- rewriteable11:00
grazieJester45: the same as what I've been doing11:01
Jester45i use it because the herd iso change11:01
grazieI've tried about 8 burns the evening and only got one successful boot with a cd-rw :(11:01
Jester45maybe your drive doesnt support rw as a boot disc11:01
Jester45guess not11:01
graziefirst burn was fine11:01
Jester45how are you erasing it11:02
grazieah well...that may be problem11:02
Jester45i use the full erase takes longs but its more complete11:02
grazieI was using graveman...but not used it before for erasing. so now I'm trying OS X11:03
Jester45i use k3b11:03
graziehad no problem with quick erase in the past but...11:04
VilhelmsIs there a way to make the Launcher on the Panel expand instead of having a submenu?11:05
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grazieJester45: k3b is a great app...but I wouldn't want it on xubuntu11:06
Jester45what do you mean by expand11:06
Jester45grazie: i would and i have :)11:06
grazieVilhelms: I don't know what you mean either11:07
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PCGenie_hello; i am new at ubuntu, installed 6.06 lamp; how do i write a cd iso?11:15
Jester45run the command "man growisofs" without quotes11:17
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VilhelmsI'm talking about the launcher that comes on the top panel in the default xubuntu install next to the Applications menu. It comes with firefox by default and you can add applications. Its kind of a quicklaunch thing11:21
MightyMountai1Excuse me, how do I extract a file via terminal?  I know the file name, and the destination, but I need to use terminal because I need root access.11:21
Jester45yes if you want it not to have a menu make a new launcher11:21
Jester45MightyMountai1: what kind of file11:22
VilhelmsMightyMountai1, If its a tar then "tar xvf <filename>" If its a tar.gz you can do "tar xvzf <filename>"11:22
MightyMountai1jester45:  Sorry for not including that originally.  tar.bz211:22
VilhelmsMightyMountai1, tar xvjf <filename>11:22
MightyMountai1Thank you both!11:23
Jester45MightyMountai1: you can use F2 then type gksu xarchiver11:23
Jester45if you want a root gui11:23
MightyMountai1Great, thanks!!  Can I use that for any program?  Just type gksu before it?11:23
Jester45yes11:23
MightyMountai1Thanks again!11:24
allBecauseTheLadhi all trying to get an epson scanner working gt 7000 . is supported and have sane and xane packages installed11:24
Jester45and for cli programs use sudo11:24
allBecauseTheLadbut I'm not sure if the backend is installed........... anyone have Ideas ???11:24
Jester45install the backend?11:25
Jester45do you know what the backend is11:25
allBecauseTheLadSANE EPSON Backend11:26
Jester45is it in the repos?11:26
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allBecauseTheLadmmmmmm I pulled it down from the site but it code and I'm running kubuntu, so I dont know about gcc and where i need to put the fiels11:28
allBecauseTheLadsorry files11:28
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CyberCodHi people11:39
Jester45hi11:39
CyberCodI am having trouble doublsizing xmms in xubuntu edgy... Ive narrowed it down to the composite, but I dont know how to disable it, as it is not turned on in xorg.conf11:41
CyberCodanyone have any ideas?11:43
Jester45nope11:43
crimsuncomposite is enabled by default in edgy11:43
crimsunyou have to explicitly /disable/ it in xorg.conf11:43
CyberCodok, so    Option omposite 0  ?11:44
CyberCodor would it be off or false11:45
grazieJester45: burn failed yet again. Do I install k3b on Xubuntu or do I have to boot XP and use Nero11:46
grazieJester45: not an easy choice11:46
Jester45loil11:47
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prairie_dadhow do I mount a webdav volume in xubuntu.  In ubuntu I use nautilus "connect to server," but it isn't in Thunar...11:53
Jester45A FTP SITE?11:53
prairie_dadno, a webdav, using the https://server.domainname.tld format.  that's what nautilus and mac os x call for.11:54
Jester45o i dont know11:56
prairie_dadin fedora, as in ubuntu (well, i guess I should say in Gnome) you go to places, then connect to server, which launches nautilus.  but in xubuntu, I don't know...any thoughts out there?11:57
Jester45you could use nautilus11:58
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hyper_chgrazie: hiho12:01
graziehyper_ch: hi12:02
hyper_chhow is virtual box?12:02
graziehyper_ch: very good.12:02
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graziehyper_ch: about to reboot with knoppix though12:02
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prairie_dadwell, the problem with that is that it has a lot of ubuntu/gnome deps, and I wanted to keep my xubuntu clean and xcfe-ish.  I mean, if I want gnome and its apps, I could just do ubuntu.  but this is for an older, slower PC I am resurrecting.12:03
hyper_chgrazie: good that it works... did you also have to chmod something and make sudo depmode?12:04
hyper_chprairie_dad: running single appz isn't like running the whole framework... xfce uses also gkt, doesn't it?12:05
graziehyper_ch: no. actually using it on a different distro right now12:05
hyper_chgrazie: ^^12:05
Jester45hyper_ch: xfce uese gtk but if the package needs a part of gnome apt will download it12:06
prairie_dadyes, hyper_ch, it's almost all gkt, that's the point of xfce.  (is ch for switzerland?  bin lange im deutschsprachigen Raum gewesen, et je parle francais aussi, malgre que je suis US americain.)12:07
graziegosh a hate kde...even on knoppix....where is everthing?12:07
hyper_chI like the KDE appz12:09
hyper_chthat's why I run so many of those12:09
hyper_chouais, CH --> Confederation Helvetica12:09
hyper_chprairie_dad: I can also talk german :)12:09
prairie_dadkde would never work on this old dog I am fixing up12:09
prairie_dadbut are you swiss, and if so from where?12:09
hyper_chSt. Gall but originating from Solothurn12:10
hyper_chwell, I don't use KDE.. I just use a lot of KDE appz12:10
graziea few kde apps are good...but the system.............12:11
hyper_chlemme check... I have12:11
hyper_chkopete, konversation, konqueror, kate, k3b, amarok, krfb, krdc, ktorrent, kftpgrabber, kontact12:12
graziehyper_ch: yeah, I like k3b, konversation, konqueror and believe ktorrent is good12:14
prairie_dadlong time since I was in Skt. Gallen...bin 2002 von Italien nach Deutschland durchgefahren (mit der Bahn) aber der letzte richtige Besuch muss 1984/5 gewesen sein, schade.  werde Nautilus versuchen, aber eine andere loesung waere mir lieber...mal sehen was mein alter box mit mehr als xcfe macht...12:16
grazie!de | prairie_dad:12:17
ubotuprairie_dad:: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:17
prairie_dadoh, I don't need german help, I'm bilingual, I was just reacting to someone with _ch in their handle.  but thanks for the tip.  have you got an idea about webdav mounting in xcfe/xubuntu without resorting to Nautilus...?12:19
grazieprairie_dad: sorry no. I've no knowledge of webdav12:20
graziegrazie: as for language...most on this channel are mono lingual...so we need the help! :)12:21
hyper_chgrazie: you can learn other languages :)12:21
hyper_chbeing monolingual is no excuse :)12:22
graziehyper_ch: yeah sure, c, c++. python, java,...12:22
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BFTDhey maxamillion12:24

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